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Hi 1ball
The place you are looking for is the GULLIVER'S TAVERN, about 200m on the right side of the soi 5.
See You
Marc
Headhunter2000
09-03-03, 13:56
1ball, sounds like you are talking about Gulliver's on Soi 5. There are always a few working girls, usually hanging around the pool tables.
LarryOne, was Baccara the club you were refering to? I have barfined a couple girls from there, but I prefer to return to my hotel rather than use the upstairs room.
I quit going to Long Gun. There are some very pretty girls working there, but it seems to me that management would rather keep the best looking ones there for the "shows" to keep the customers buying overpriced drinks. The ones available for "take away" are nowhere near as good looking as the ones in the special shows. Has anyone had any luck barfining the top showgirls? Maybe get there real early or really late? They won't even look at me, LOL!
HH2000
the name sounds like it. where is it exactly, have you had any luck there?
1ball
next are two opinion pieces from the nation. i think they both hit the spot and are worth reading.
from my favourite leader writer chang noi. about chuwit and the effect he has had.
the sprawling sex trade shelters under a simple and creative hypocrisy. peddling prostitution is technically illegal, but everyone knows that the big glitzy buildings alongside the office towers, hospitals, and government agencies are selling the world's oldest product.
the law makes this possible. a charge of prostitution can be brought only if the guilty are caught in the act. police would have to burst through the door of the massage parlour and find the client busily engaged while simultaneously handing payment to the parlour owner with a spare hand.
surveys have shown that the police consider prostitution an unimportant matter and make no effort to enforce the law.
to salvage some semblance of moral authority, they claim to crack down on the nastier margins of the sex trade - under-age girls, use of force to coerce girls against their will and the horrified discovery that girls undergoing the blessing of education are tempted to earn money this way.
for some time this seemed to be a stable situation. mum and dad drove the kids past all these huge, strangely blind buildings to school, where they were taught in social-ethics class that the family is the sacrosanct core of thai society.
authorities, without irony, cracked down on bare nipples, spaghetti straps and songs about flabby buttocks on the grounds that such things are too sexy for "social order" and "thai culture".
the minister enforcing "social order" confessed he used to visit massage parlours but had given it up before taking up his new job. the blank walls of the massage parlours were enough to divide reality from imagination.
chuwit kamolvisit is a sex bomb that has blown up this stable state. he began doing so long before his current reincarnation as a political satirist and public clown.
he went to business school and then applied the principles of integration, scale, advertising and promotion. the pimp's role in the sex trade is simply to bring the demand to meet the supply.
but what differentiates suppliers is the packaging of the foreplay. three varieties were popular: dalliance in a cocktail lounge, crooning karaoke or a soapy pummelling in a bath-tub.
following the principles of modern mega-retail, chuwit integrated these three in a single outlet with sufficient scale to cater for a range of consumer tastes.
he replaced the somewhat subdued promotional strategies of older outlets (flashing lights, slightly risque names) with giant blow-ups of gorgeous, realistic and enticing girls.
the parlour walls were no longer much of a barrier, because chuwit invited the passer-by to imagine the inside.
from that point, his rise to notoriety was only a matter of time. but taking the walls off the massage parlours is revealing a lot more than bath-tubs.
first, chuwit is using the television channels, owned by this government committed to social order and thai culture, to offer public education on the economics of sex commerce. in a tv interview he described how he had single-mindedly wasted his time in educational institutions and then made bt1 million a day once he entered the sex business. ambitious students were presumably taking detailed notes.
he has encouraged his workers to tells us they retain bt1,200 a session and might manage three to five sessions a day. any village girl with elementary-school maths can work out that in a few months she can make her parents' lifetime earnings from hard-scrabble paddy farming. that should boost the supply of workers.
the press has done its bit for demand. one weekly news magazine launched a series of personal memoirs of the parlour, written as over-the-top war stories.
slightly tongue-in-cheek, they claim the parlours have become a necessary balm for the stress of living in bangkok.
chuwit is already claiming he is a "social welfarist" for providing employment to destitute girls; these articles make him a "social therapist" for providing recuperative services to devastated men. this should boost customer demand.
second, the ambiguous position of the sex trade as illegal-but-allowed allows the police to levy huge amounts of informal tax. a parlour pays an initial fee for its "licence" to do business and then monthly taxes roughly computed on turnover. payments are both in cash and kind. there are extra fees for security services.
what happened in the destruction of sukumwit soi 10 is no longer in dispute. the bars were smashed. various uniformed groups were involved. according to one version, chuwit ordered the services and paid for them. according to the other version, the groups carried out the operation in the spirit of private enterprise and then blackmailed chuwit to pay for it. the difference between the two versions is only a detail of invoicing.
third, how come this chuwit show is playing on our tv screens and newspaper pages for week after week? credit is due to chuwit for the continuous creativity he has brought to the performance.
but it seems likely that a show of this kind needs a special licence to continue so long. speculation has been rife. many are convinced that chuwit is godfathered from high up.
the prime minister may get the chance to replace a police chief he has never seemed happy with. he may put his police classmates and friends in positions vacated after chuwit's revelations.
he may be happy for us to be distracted by the chuwit show rather than worrying about the terrorism decree or the stock market being entrusted to someone deeply entwined in thailand's worst-ever bank crash or the crumbling of the public health system, or whatever.
bangkok mums and dads can still drive the kids to school past those funny buildings. but now they have to squeeze their eyes tighter shut to avoid seeing the pimp entrepreneurs, crooked cops, mafia enforcers and opportunistic politicians behind their walls.
from bangkokian. about the ban on love songs.
they never fail to let us down, do they? the banana republic bureaucrats, i mean. every day we wait with bated breath for the next stupendously dumb announcement, and this week's episode admirably fills the gap. let's ban pop songs with slightly suggestive lyrics, they've decreed, even if they have been around for 20 years (that's the problem with banana republic bureaucrats - they're a bit slow on the uptake).
so now that we've got that out of the way, what's next? book burning? the moral guardians at the culture ministry (hereinafter renamed the ministry for silly love songs) really have pushed the envelope this time. we were pretty dumbstruck a few months ago when these bureauprats ordered a clampdown on spaghetti-strap tops during songkran, but they've gob-smacked us with this idiotic ban on silly little love songs - certainly harmless in the grand scheme of things.
bangkokian is not blindly advocating artistic freedom. yet if we can read books and watch movies about forbidden love (not to mention the scads of scantily clad nymphets gyrating erotically on mtv), why can't we sing or listen to a song about it?
in a country boasting probably the world's biggest sex industry, many of whose customers are senior government officials, going after songs about adultery is blatant hypocrisy.
this idea has "hitlerism" stamped all over it. such jackbooted censorship is a big insult to all thai people, young and old alike. do our leaders or their advisers really believe we will rush out and steal someone's spouse if we listen to "depraved" songs?
thailand should have a culture that cherishes personal liberty as well as the ability to distinguish good from bad. burdened with a culture ministry like this, we can fast become a one-dimensional society of morally rigid clones.
hundreds of millions of people have grown up listening to the likes of "torn between two lovers", "it's sad to belong", "how can i tell her?", "lyin' eyes", "bizarre love triangle", "saving all my love for you".
some people need to get a life.
(editor's note: we had to stop bangkokian from using the term "rock 'n roll" in this column because it is a euphemism for sexual intercourse, and that can no longer be allowed.)
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GettingTang
09-03-03, 20:03
Daytime mongering
First good to see this board with a little life in it! Great reports from all!
Like most of you while vacationing in Bangkok, we tend to do most of out mongering in the evening and into the early hours of the morning. I am asking that fellow mongers suggest their best tips for date-time mongering. I have always, when wanting to monger during the afternoon, booked an appointment at the Eden club, or a massage parlor. I, along with many others, am wondering where some good freelancers might be discovered at say 2PM in the afternoon? Lets start a list, I mean after-all, the male body is most sexually responsive during the morning hours and into the mid day. I have found that if I wish to achieve three pops on a given day, I need to start early in the day. (remember, I'm getting older)
On a side note: To those with years of mongering or living experience in Thailand. How long after APEC has come and went, do you think it will be before things return to normal? I'm guessing by the first week in November, thus my next trip is scheduled for this time. We all know the crackdown is NOT going to last, but will they ease up immediately after APEC or carry the crackdown into December.
THOUGHTS? And don't forget, everyone post your favorite daytime mongering locations
GETTINGTANG~!
GT -- there is, of course, the Biergarten for afternoon mongering, and the various BJ bars start up pretty early.
As far as the crackdown, I seriously doubt that you'll see an immediate easing by X or Y date, as that would be admitting that the crackdown had something to do with the APEC conference, which is of course not at all the case -- it's clearly being done to support Thai morality in general and to discourage that segment of low-life farangs from visiting! You won't see rounding up after the conference other than perhaps a time or two to demonstrate how ongoing everything is, and then places will gradually start to push the barriers again. But I'd expect it's going to be at least several months before you start seeing nude shows in most places, considering that it never really got back to the level it was at before the last crackdown.
GettingTang
09-03-03, 23:39
<<GT -- there is, of course, the Biergarten for afternoon mongering, and the various BJ bars start up pretty early.<<
Does the grounds near the ambassador hotel still have a good mongering biergarten? I bagged a few freelancers there once upon a time. Also, how do you become a WSG contributor? I would like to donate some funds to such a noble cause. WSG has given me countless contacts and ideas for mongering over the years. Jackson deserves some finacial relief in my opinion, and for those others out there were regularly use this board, you should also consider a small contribution. Just my two cents worth!
GETTINGTANG~!
i don't think you will ever see bangkok back to the pre-crackdown openness of three to four years ago, joe zop is right about that. those guys that think bangkok back to the level of six months ago also will need to wait a long time if ever. remember the same guy heading this crackdown was the gay that cut the clubs back to closing at 2:00. everyone said that would not last and it has, with no signs of changing.
the bottom line is bangkok is a major world class city. it has many other business to support it and the sex trade is just a small part of the city's overall economy. i'm not saying it is an unimportant part but it is not the major part of the economy. the fact is the prime minster wants to clean up the image of thailand. he believes that without the sex trade within a few years thailand can double or triple the revenues generated by the sex trade in normal family resort tourism. right or wrong that is what he believes and what he is working towards.
it will take him a lifetime to change thailand, but the places that operated in the open within the capital can be change much quicker. they can keep the girls covered, they can enforce the proper licencing of the clubs, they can stop the sex shows. places that really break the laws and openly disrespect the kingdom i believe will not last through this crackdown. everyone knows what goes on at places like star of light, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), eden club, etc., they are the places the government can close and then tell the world they are doing something to stop the sex trade. patpongs clubs, nana plaza and soi cowboy all will be made to clean up their acts and the larger companies, like crown group will move in and push the small guys out.
bangkok i believe will also have a sex trade but i think it will be controlled as i said by the big companies and the image will be a lot cleaner than it is now. i believe other areas of thailand like pattaya have a much better chance of remaining active a lot longer.
the sex trade is much more important to pattaya than to bangkok, and the city fathers know this. that is the reason that they will protect the valuable asset that they have in the sex trade. a much higher percentage of the revenue coming into pattaya is from the sex trade then in bangkok. but pattaya too can be changed, if they really push this crackdown look for fewer beer bars in the city, and only the larger go go bars making it in the end. as a resort city pattaya is better suited for adult entertainment any ways.
i’m not hoping this happens, i love thailand i spend a good amount of each year in the country, but from what i see this is the way things are going. a few things could change these things from happening and nothing is craved in stone. but things are changing in thailand and not for the better, for the members of this board. look for the sex trade in thailand to remain locked down until at least the end of the year, with bangkok staying tight much longer than other areas of the county.
Headhunter2000
09-04-03, 02:05
1ball, from Sukhumvit walk down Soi 5 toward the Royal Benja hotel and Gulliver's will be on your right hand side a little ways down. 95% of the girls there will be "working girls." Only a handful in the afternoon but dozens around 9pm or so. I actually go there to eat--the food is pretty good--but I did take a girl once. I paid her 1000B for ST and it was well worth it. I think the girls there are a little more polished than the Beer Garden crew and less aggressive. You will definitely have to initiate the conversation. Related link: http://www.gulliverbangkok.com/direction_s.html
HH
gt (et al), if you click the wsg charity link under my or some other contributor's name it will direct you to the website. you can make a donation via paypal. it's a very nice way to support jackson's interests -- a legitimate nonprofit organization that gives money for food for the needy in argentina.
and i think you've said it very well, sexreview, though i don't know that there's going to be any hurry to go after places like eden, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), etc. it's not necessarily that the thai government is in a hurry to have the sex trade go away, but they definitely want it to have a lower profile and for it to understand there are rules it has to live by. thaksin's a businessman, and he's prefer that identity for thailand first and foremost as opposed to a sex haven. while they really don't want that to completely go away, they don't want it at the top of the list anymore. everything is both possible and negotiable in los, and will no doubt remain so for a long time -- it just won't be as in-your-face.
Sushi Lover
09-04-03, 19:25
Hi all,
I am a new to this forum. For the most part what I read on these groups is heartwarming if not inspiring. However, this thrend concerning APEC forced crackdown in BKK is depressing. I am currently living in Taipei and I hope that Bangkok doesn't follow the clean up act that has taken place over here. With some of the most prettiest asian girls, Taipei used to be a haven in its own right comparable to thailand. No more.
More to the point, having missed out over here, I just booked a flight to BKK next week. Sounds like the topless entertainment will be somewhat limited due to APEC. I need a recovery plan, where to go? Phuket? Pattaya? I got less than 4 days I want to make the most of it. Please note, I don't want so much FS as I want the titallation of girls flirting and teasing, much like what to be expected in a high priced Japanese club.
Any advice appreciated.
James
Sushi Lover
You're out of luck right now in Thailand. Topless is not really happening and if it is it is only for short periods of time within the clubs. Pattaya has a little more than Bangkok but whenever a club goes topless the police do a raid shortly there after. You picked the wrong time to hity Thailand if you want topless or nuded.
Sexreview
joe zop,
you posted :
"and i think you've said it very well, sexreview, though i don't know that there's going to be any hurry to go after places like eden, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), etc. it's not necessarily that the thai government is in a hurry to have the sex trade go away, but they definitely want it to have a lower profile and for it to understand there are rules it has to live by."
don't know for sure the reason but the eden web site was pulled down in a big hurry. the manager posted on another board that it was better to take it down with apec coming up. but i believe that i was right and they are running scared, as they should be. clubs like eden and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) are going to be targets in this campaign.
sexreview
Might well be the case since both of those have farang owners and pretty high profiles that are strictly about sexual activity -- no pretense whatsoever of being a go-go or a beer bar where people go to drink as opposed to simply have sex on-premises. Getting rid of the website at least temporarily is probably a smart move, as is shows an understanding of the need to be more discreet about things. Time will tell if it helps. I'd not be at all surprised to see farang owners being the ones who get the majority of the grief, since that seems to have been the pattern in the past, or to see places with on-premises activity targeted, as again that fits past patterns. Crucifying a few farang owners would also let the minister put some teeth to his harsh words about sex tourists.
But the majority of the action in LOS is still either freelancers or paying a barfine to take someone with you, and I seriously doubt there'll be any substantial change to that equation. Covered or uncovered, turning out the lights at the legal time or not, the core business is still the same.
Hi,
Can anyone give me some more detailed info about this crackdown.
- Is the places at Nana still open and are they open until 2.a.m?
- What is different at Nana?
- Is there any noticable changes
- Is there a qualified guess for how long this crack down will go on?
Thanks
Slacker
Drummer Guy
09-15-03, 02:08
Hi Everyone
I will finally be visiting Bangkok for one night on the 8th October & then for a week around the 15th October.
I've been keeping a keen eye on the crack down there and would be interested to know if there has been a noticable difference in the freelance action. Is that becoming less active?
What is the best bar to go to listen to some 70's - 80's music - not too loud, and in the company of some finely dressed freelancers? OK OK I know I'm an old bugger!
Countdown is on ....... God I can't wait!!!
Cheers
DG
PosterLion
09-15-03, 05:11
TRY AS I MIGHT, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT POST ON OCCASION
This if for Drummer Guy and Slacker (and anyone else that wants to understand the underground)
Crackdowns are a phenomenon of political events, for the most part. What is a political event? Well, this is a very good question indeed. One way of defining politics is this: "a human interaction that involves another human.
In other words, a political event (or a crackdown) is something that involves two or more human beings. That said, in the event of a crackdown, everyone can be sure that freelancing will be in full swing. The so-called crackdowns will first affect the obvious locations, these being the high profile brothel type places. During a crackdown, places such as Nana and Eden and Soi Cowboy will show a noticeable decline in participation. They are the milestones, so to speak. And they are obvious choices.
The girls will feel uncomfortable in such venues and freelance activities will inevitably rise. This is normal. This is the way the world works. When there is an economic recession, those that work for the man either get laid off, or they choose to go it on their own, hence we have what is known as free enterprise.
And free enterprise is nothing more than those brave souls that do what they can do to benefit themselves. It has always been this way.
Now just get your ass to Thailand, and help the juggernaut to roll on as it has always done.
Thanks for your support,
poster...
Well said Poster. Predicting this event is like predicting the stock market. If I could do that I'd be living on the beach in Thailand, and not writing this from overseas.
As for DG, you can find free-lancers in almost any bar, and the music you like is common all over. I suggest you walk up and down Soi Sukhumvit, and hit all the Entertainment plazas there. Also, you might want to try some of the hotel bars, some are quite nice.
Good luck.
JuiceSpike
09-16-03, 01:05
Guys,
Samus is right. The action continues and it will continue for as long as there are women in Thailand. What the papers report and what actually is happening is two different things. Just got an email from a friend in BKK and all is well, a few changes here and there but just the same. The Thai government is putting out a PR campaign with the Apec conference coming up. But do you really think girls/women who love to fuck farangs will stop?
I will be in BKK for 2 weeks arriving on September 25th. If anybody wants to hang out email me at nightbkk@yahoo.com.
Samus, how about you?
juice
SA,
I agree with you that the girls will still be working during APEC and crackdown or no crackdown. But to say nothing has changed really is a little misleading, to say Nana Plaza is the same is just wrong. For most of this year nude dancing was common and many sex shows going on. Then the crackdown started and everyone is covered and no shows to speak of. Some high profile businesses have taken down or had their web sites pulled. And the massage places are not as open as before. Things have change and are changing.
I'm not saying you don't know your stuff when it comes to Thailand, because anyone can see that you do. And I agree with the way you handle and view these bar girls, they are not girlfriends. So on many things we are in agreement.
But many clubs have been closed, many girls are nowhere to be found, which could just be low season. Overall I think the openness that has been around the sex trade maybe is gone. Even after APEC and the crackdown I think that you will always be able to find sex in Thailand but it will not be as in your face as it has been.
The image of Thailand is changing, and I believe that the image is the real goal here. The Thai Government doesn't really want to stop the sex trade totally. They just don't want to have the image of being the sex capital of the world or a total sex destination.
Remember the Thais love their sex too. Just not out in the open for every straight-laced tourist couple from East Tim Buck Two, to see.
Sexreview
I am here in the Nana area now and things are great if you don't mind not bumping into everyone on the sidewalk, sunny mornings and thunderstorm evenings. I think the NEP is for people who have the dough to burn. I come here to skank beautiful, but affordable puzzy. I am getting more than my share of street ho's at 1000b short time, no fukking 600b bar fine or ladies drinks and dark lights to hide the the girls flaws. Any questions? Fire away!
found a cheap internet for 1b/minute. Its on the 2nd floor of the new Jmart cell phone building, next to KFC, kitty corner to the J.W. Marriott. on Sukhumvit. I am the only one here now, its 530 pm and the building is really clean and up to date. This place is new! There are no effects from the coming APEC conference in the Nana area, except that It seems really orderly and no porno cd's for sale on the street. Touts not as agressive as I remember. The time to be here is now! If arriving during the day between 6am and 12 midnight, I recommend the airport shuttle right outside and to the left after picking up your baggage. 100b, a/c, lots of room for luggage and took 35 minutes to Nana/ Sukhumvit.
Bil: I have a question' Why are you paying sws 1000 bt st?
JuiceSpike
09-17-03, 14:38
SA
Here is the plan:
We go on a rampage of 3Fs where ever you would like to.
juice.
Skinless,
Perhaps Bil is doing 4sums only:D!
Hey Freeler, do you know Emerson?
dickhead,
emerson fitipaldi? sure, we luuuuv' to tour the world's speedtracks together!
No, I meant Emerson as in:
'Em are some BIG TITS in that last picture!
Dickhead,
I am open to new teachings every day!
There are some bigguns in this attachment as well. Nutting to do with Thailand, she was from Higuey, DR.
skinless, to answer your question why I pay them 1000b short time is simple. There are pleny of 400-800b old, skinny, hardened unappealing women who fill a need for the extreme budget traveller such as yourself. Alot of guys enjoy sitting in bars with the loud music, dancers costumes, a/c etc. Its all depends on what you want to do with your time and money. Travelers such as myself look for a certain type of girl, normally who wouldn't accept less than 1000. In fact I couldn't believe there were some girls who actually had the nerve to ask for 1500 or 2000b short time in the bier gardens and wouldn't give a bbbj. Guys like freeler are on the extreme end of the spectrum, who would probably do anything that smiles and moves as long as its under 300b. Hey, to each its own. I just think that most of the girls in general in the Bkk clubs develop a western attitude that is taught to them by the sex starved groveling puzzy monger. If we all get together and not spoil these girls too much, Bkk will remain an affordable place to get satisfyingly beautiful girls on an average joe's budget.
Couple of tips for newbies: If your going to take a girl, make sure you agree on price before you get to your room. DO NOT agree to it when they say "up to you" and they smile at you. You may end up giving her less than she expected for her services, or she may know that she can bump up the payment by showing dissatisfaction and saying "well, I usually get much more" The average joe on short vacation doesn't want the girl dissatisfied and to avoid any troubles, ends up giving her more money and driving up prices. Hold your ground. Another thing to ask during the interview is to ask if she "smokes with or without a condom" If she doesn't, you aint gonna get head, and she probably won't even let you suk her tittts. She has been asked this numerous time already so don't be shy. It can save you grief later.
Bil, I'm with Skinless on this issue. I hardly ever monger in Bangkok anymore, due to the high prices and poor service caused by Westernization. This even though I live in Hua Hin, which is no bargain either. Its pretty hard to find motivated girls in Thailand anymore.. seems to me Pattaya is the only place left with decent service. Even there the old adage is true - the prettier the girl, the worse the service. The only hope is some kind of major downturn in the Thai economy. And btw, you mentioned no BBBJ? That's crazy. I always cut them loose without payment, and write off the bar-fine, even if they refuse BBFS!
GettingTang
09-18-03, 22:58
I'm on my way boys! Two weeks of paradise! Reporting from Seoul Korea. Left LAX yesterday and have a 9 hour layover here in Seoul, just checked into the airport garden hotel. Basic room and a bed with decent clean shower. Gave me a rate of $67 for 6 hours. Will get a few hours of sleep and then on my last leg into Bangkok. I plan to do some extensive reporting while there to this forum. Spending 4 days in Bangkok at the Grand President, then on to Pattaya for 11 days! Any mongers care to meet up, let me know. I'll buy a fellow monger with similar interests an all inclusive date! Much better then the Old, "I'll buy you a beer" don't you think? Pissin my pants with excitement! Probably wasted my money on this darn room as I know I won't be able to sleep! Seoul airport is very modern, roomy and airy. I'm rather impressed. Lots of areas to crash if you're on a budget. Well, over and out, will report back tomorrow evening with my first Thai experience, of this trip anyhow!
GETTINGTANG~!
Getting Tang,
ariving Grand President Friday evening around 9.00 PM. post your room number, will leave you a message.
1 ball
Mistapenus
09-19-03, 22:42
Cheap Internet
If anyone wants cheap internet, get out of the sex-tourist ghetto and pay what the locals pay.
Staff (usually young kids) often speak enough English to understand what you want.
I found one near the southern bus station in Thonburi for 20B/hour.
Banglampoo, the backpacker area is also good for around the same price. The food is also very cheap there. But unfortunately there are lots of backpackers. Can't have it perfect.
GettingTang
09-20-03, 02:36
First report from Bangkok.
Wiped out, have not slept in almost three days!
Arrived into Bangkok last night around 10 PM. Went through a long line at customs. Even though I have been here some 15 times over the years, including just a few months back, it still is culture shock. The muggy temperature took its toll on me once outside the airport. Got a taxi for 350 baht to the Grand president. Not up for haggling price as my eyes were burning, felt dizzy, needed water and a bed. The dang taxi driver's ac was broken too, had to sweat the whole way to my room.
Checked into room. Not very impressed with this place so far. Room is average at best and lots of noise from car horns and buses etc. Cranked up the AC took a cool shower, drank some water and relaxed for about an hour.
Was originally planing to hit the sack for the night, but my little head got the better of my thoughts. Decided to take a 1 AM stroll. Walked to Nana Plaza. Picked up the first girl who smiled at me. Pretty girl, petite, nice facial features. Went back to room, in taxi. Guard took her ID, smiled and winked. I slipped him 100 baht, he bowed and smiled some more! Once in the room, I asked her to shower, after my memories from being poisoned years ago in Pattaya. She obliged. She washed me first, covering all of my body. I knew I was in for a treat when she soaped up her hands real good and proceeded to wash my ars! She almost tickled my prostate. Her name was Mia. Back to the bed, I noticed she was not shy as is so often the case. She went right to work, gave me about 10 minutes of a great BBBJ, used all techinques, slow fast deep throat and held it for 15 seconds while deep throating. Great first experience. I laid down on my stomach and she licked my ars for about 5 minutes while handling my pecker by reaching around. This got me hard as a rock. We did the deed in about 6 different positions. This girl was nicely groomed and had a nice tight box. Great experience. Since we had not discussed price prior to her going with me, I asked her how much I owed her. She asked if she could stay all night. I told her I was way too tired, she looked sad. I offered 1200 baht, she asked for more politely, I handed her another 300 baht and showed her the door. Slept until about 6:30 Am this morning, typed this report and now will go have breakfast. Finally a little more relaxed despite only 3 hours of sleep. Hitting the Eden club after lunch today. Meeting up with a Internet girl mid evening and then back for another freelancer late evening! Life is good here in Thailand! Weather is still very muggy and hot! Smog is thick and nasty as usual, had some rain showers early, but seems to be clearing some now. Three more days here, then the real vacation in Pattaya starts!
GETTINGTANG~!
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 05:19
Tang - Well 1500 baht is too much for ST. The *most* I paid in a month in Thailand was 1000 baht in BKK. And honestly, the ones I got for 500, 700 and 800 were as good or better than the ones for 1000.
I laughed at the one in Bier Garten who asked for 2000. I switched to one of her friends, and asked if she was crazy too. She said no, and she went home with me.
Now, I won't go into the 200 or 300 baht girls I took in Pattaya, but paying too much never got me better service.
arrived last night from Bali, landing at 8.30 PM, 30 minutes late due to a torrential rain storm that kept all flights from landing for a good 30-45 minutes.
we must have been the first on the ground, as when i walked into passport control, there were a bunch of bored officials waiting for us. 4 minutes later, i hop into a taxi to town.
The expressway was a swimming pool, so it took a while, but 270 Baht later, including expressway, i was at the Grand President on Soi 11.
I agree with gettingTang, the palce is getting run down a bit, for for 40$ for a large room including a couch, and breakfast for 2, (just in case), it isn't bad at all.
Did the rounds, Biergarden, Gulliver's, had a couple of beers, a couple of laughs, and decided to get something to eat around 11.30 PM. Standing outside Thermae, were a couple of cuties, a Burmese Indian, and a Thai from Chiang Mai. after a bowl of noodles, we adjourn to the GP, of course I have already agreed on price, ( 1500 for BOTH, not each), and have been given assurances that they both like to eat pussy.
Let me tell you, it is such a warm feeling to look down and see 2 girls going at you like you are an ice cream cone. then watching them 69 each other is another joy. But I think the best was when i was pumping away at 1, on my knees, and the other was licking my ass from behind. Oh YESSSSS !!!
All in all, a very nice way to start. Gave them each 100 tip, and they were off.
Don't worry about this crackdown, girls are EVERYWHERE. have not gone into gogos yest, but all the FL places were packed. There is no crackdown, there is no APEC clean up, there is just pussy, so as SA says, get over here and start mixing fluids.
1 ball
JuiceSpike
09-20-03, 14:21
SA,
Saturday the 27th sounds good. I like to start getting busy at around 3PM. We could start by going to a soupy or baber33 you mentioned in here before followed by a snack then find another spot then go to dinner and then plan the evening. Dinner is on me.
If 3PM is too early for you let me know. We could meet in Gulligers on soi 5.
juice.
Headhunter2000
09-20-03, 14:45
Glad to see some sex reports on here. I went to 2 go-go bars last night. I will not say which ones in case PM Thaksin is reading this, but at one of them the girls were topless and at the other they were totally nude. I ended up barfining a girl at the second bar. Her name is 'Nun' and she is 20. We agreed to 1000 B for ST. She gave a passable BBBJ then we proceeded to covered straight sex. She wasn't too responsive, but this seems to be the norm for the better-looking bar girls who tend to get barfined every night.
Then she did something that really shocked me: she told me she really likes getting fucked in the ass. Hallelujah! Music to my perverted ears! I flipped her over, put a dab of K-Y on the back door, and dove in. In all honesty, I had a hard time getting in at first--it was so tight--but once I got in, it was heaven. I pounded away and her pussy started literally dripping from the assgasms. A true anal queen! Very rare in BKK.
Over and out, HH
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 17:46
I decided to do an in depth report on Pantip Plaza and other places they sell DVDs, etc. I had bought some DVDs on my last trip, and was generally happy with them*.
(*Note, don't buy any brand new movie out unless you don't care about quality. Wait until it's been released on DVD first for better quality.)
Now since my trip was before the first APEC conference in Phuket, things weren't too bad the first couple of weeks. You would see about 6-8 vendors selling in the open along Sukhumvit between Soi 11 and Soi 3.
Here's a picture of my favorite booth in Pantip Plaza. I found that you needed to get away from the escalator a bit before you'd get people that would bargain much.
And a very important thing. Before you start picking out videos, software or music, bargain your price first. I spent 20 minutes picking out stuff, and then they were asking way too much for the stuff.
Jaimito Cartero-
Just to let you know I checked out Pantip plaza twice about one month ago, and again two more times in the past two weeks hoping to get some software, but all of the bootleg shops/booths are completely gone! A few guys will sneak up on you and whisper, "DVD movie?" but that was about it. Lots of cops hanging around also! Sorry no sex report, but I just wanted to do a follow up to that post. Also, the girls working in the go-go scene here are just getting uglier and uglier all the time.
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 20:48
dana - well, you didn't look in the right place. i bought most of my goods last week, with no problems. that picture was taken last week also.
what they have done that instead of having actual product on the table, they have a flip book with all the titles in them. write the number down you want. give them a deposit, and the runner goes off to get them. from 10-20 minutes later, they have a bag of goodies for you.
i did go on monday evening (5pm), and the police were around, so all the booths were draped. but all you had to do was go around the side, and they'd still let you leaf through the books.
many of the vendors in the nana area just have little magnets of movies on their tables. just pick which ones you want, and they'll run off and get you some.
i did read in the bangkok post about a huge bust of a dvd factory a couple of weeks ago. i think the machine could produce tens of thousands of cds and dvds a day. they said the machines they got were worth over a million dollars. big money!
Jaimito Cartero
09-20-03, 20:55
I'm not sure where in Pantip plaza you were looking at. When you go up the escalator from the ground floor to what I call the 3rd floor (not sure if ground floor counts as 1 or not), you hang a right. When you run into a booth, it is one selling software, dvds and music. All in that island area are 4 or 5 (at least) different booths selling stuff.
I prefered to hang a right at that booth, go to the front of the building, and then take another right. After you go about 20 yards, you'll see a lot of small booths to the left.
For DVDs they'll ask 150 baht for normal, or 200 baht for "new" stuff. Ignore that pricing.
I usually buy at least 10 movies, so I will pay a maximum of 100 baht per movie. New, old, whatever. Don't go for the buy 10, get one free crap, either.
In the few larger booths I looked at, they usually wouldn't budge from their prices, that's why I prefer the smaller ones.
In a bust recently in Pattaya, a vendor said he bought his CDs in Bangkok for 30 baht each. (He was busted with thousands). So there is a bit of margin in their prices.
I also paid about 100 baht for software, and 70 baht for music, again, at least 10 of each purchases.
GettingTang
09-20-03, 22:31
Jaimito Cartero
I have always wanted to look into purchasing many DVDs and CDs when in Thailand. However, can you as a foriegner get busted for buying them? Or worse yet after you buy them and have say 100 dvd and or Cds won't you get trouble when you bring them back to the USA, or do you just shove them in your bag and say nothing? How does that work?
PS. Do I have one hell of a report for day two here in Thailand, but need more time to type it. Having a great time so far, just wish the weather was bit nicer. Other then that, this place never stops amazing me. I never knew so much pussy could be so easily had with such ease! I seriously have to shake my head and tell myself, yes it's real! And this from a guy who is now in the middle of his 16th trip to Thailand!
GETTINGTANG~!
Jaimito Cartero
09-21-03, 00:29
Tang - Well, anything is possible in Thailand. I've only gone twice, but brought back goodies both times with no problems.
I don't think I would buy 2 or 3 hundred and try to bring them back. I just put them in my camera bag and smile when I go through customs.
I think the worst that can happen in customs is that they take all but one of them away.
I was going to get some porno DVDs to bring back, but since they were closed down on Monday, I didn't bother. I had very good luck with the 5 or 6 I got on my last trip. All good quality.
found a massage/lay joint across the street from nana foodland. Its called sweetheart club or something, on the right side of a small soi with japanese bars . you go in and the guy asks you if you have been here before. Say yes and he will say 800b but tell him you always pay 600. He will ring the bell and about 9 girls will come out if they aren't already sitting on the couch. They are 5-7 imho, and your choice will take you upstairs to an a/c room where you undress and she will lead you to the shower room. after washing you and herself, she will give you a real lotion massage before covered sex. Shower again. The massage i had was pretty good, and most guys in the know will only tip 100-200b and she will be grateful. Please don't mess it up for everyone by overtipping. Enjoy!
To; Headhunter2000
Great report about Nun. I would be REALLY interested in finding her! Can you pass on the information some other way? Any ideas?
Best Regards
Slacker
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to correctly spell the words "you", "are" and "because". To avoid future delays, please refrain from using "u" instead of "you", "r" instead or "are", and "cuz" instead of "because" in future reports. Thanks!
Jaimito Cartero
09-21-03, 18:17
Just a little update on some of my cd purchases. Last night I transferred the 20 music MP3s into my computer. Out of the 20, there was one in a format I'm not familar with (OGG), and 5 had CRC errors or other disc errors on part of them.
1 was 75% bad, 2 were 50% bad, and 2 were about 20% bad. There was also one that was not what the sleeve indicated. Fortunately it was something not totally horrible.
Obviously if you had a laptop with you, I'd recommend checking them while you're in Thailand.
I think whoever made the discs obviously does no error checking. The discs are clean, and I tried them on two different disc drives. The quality of the MP3s is 128kb, and of the ones I've listened too were good.
It is nice to have all your Aerosmith on one CD.
Zero Charisma
09-22-03, 04:20
I read the following on another forum, referring to the current crackdown:
"Until further notice, there is no more sex at massage parlors, you have to wear underwear during the bath and she will be wearing a bathing suit". Can anyone who is in BKK right now confirm this?
This is way over the top! If its true, then I will probably postpone my vacation till after APEC.
That goes for adult vcd's from the Pantip plaza. After negotiating 7 for 500b, I ran them in my room and 4 were fine, 1 skipped, 1 no sound and the other was a duplicate even though the jacket was different. A portable vcd/cd/mp3 player can be had for 1450b
Jaimito Cartero
09-22-03, 05:28
I actually brought along a cd/mp3 player, but something was screwed up with it, and it wouldn't play anything. Does the all in one player just play the sound from a VCD?
Jaimito,
The vcd player I bought looks like a compact portable cd player found in the U.S. It came with the a/c adapter that converts 100-220volts or you can use 2 aa batteries. The video/audio cables hook right up to any tv and are included as are headphones and a wireless remote. I like to watch porn before I go hunting, as it keeps me horny and sometimes its fun to watch with a girl before/during a session. Kinda gets my juices flowing without viagra.
if your going to pantip plaza and are using the skytrain i usually get off at the ratchatewi station and walk north a little bit and turn right or east to get there. is it petchaburi road? anyway there is a little internet place next to a ricoh camera shop on the way that offers 1 hr of internet for 30b. the speed is almost as fast as my cable back home. enjoy!
Jaimito,
I hope you understand that a VCD or video cd is a different format than a DVD or music CD or MP3. A VCD player may or may not play DVD's and vice versa. Make sure you ask the salesperson, or better yet bring a working sample of the disc you are going to play
Jaimito Cartero
09-22-03, 06:04
Bil - A VCD is just a video burned onto a normal CD. I'm not sure what the actual format it. I've burned a number of them myself for some video projects. I got a couple of VCDs on my first trip, but they only store 20% of what a DVD will do. I think I paid 70 baht each in May.
$40 US for a machine that will read all of them is a good deal. I paid $50 for the Panasonic CD/MP3 player. (Not on sale, and only worked for a couple short trips).
I usually get off on the same subway stop you mentioned. If you get off on Siam it's a big pain in the butt. I actually walked in the rain from PP to Siam (couldn't find a taxi). I should have gone to the BTS station near Gaysorn, but for some reason I had it in my mind that Siam was the closest.
Here's a report that contradicts my recently stated view of Bangkok as too expensive. I stayed one night on Sukhumvit soi 11 the other day, on my way to my flight here to Phnom Penh. Picked up two freelancers - separately, not together. Both gave bareback anal with creampie, one for 500 baht, one for 600. Of course neither were lookers, one being a bit old and with childbearing stretchmarks, the other young enough, but rather fat. But its nice to know the old anal urge can be satisfied easily and cheaply in Bangkok. Wish it were as easy to find here in PP. Maybe they're just too damn small here.
On a side note, the hotel in Soi 11 - 'Comfort Inn' - was really lousy, even at 600 baht.
Jaimito Cartero,
If you're lucky the VCD is plain mpeg format, playable on any normal viewer.
If you're less lucky, they may have burned the files with .dat extensions.
Of course you can <shift>, right-click etc or via SendTo-folder to open with Mplayer, but you can also copy to your harddrive, change the extension to .mpg and burn your own disc.
Don't worry about the copyrights - the original was probably illegal in the first place:)!
Mine were original Silipon Umpaipong VCD's in .dat format, so I made new .mpg VCD's.
I would gladly post Silipon's photograph, but some people would offend this great singer by calling her old - hell, she could even be a mother! - without knowing her music.
Also: Search in Altavista for 'OGG format'.
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Picked up two freelancers - separately, not together. Both gave bareback anal with creampie, one for 500 baht, one for 600. Of course neither were lookers, one being a bit old and with childbearing stretchmarks, the other young enough, but rather fat. But its nice to know the old anal urge can be satisfied easily.
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Do you have any pictures?
I would like to avoid these 2 'deathtraps' like the plague.
Well put and amen Badass!
In many years of buying software, CDs and VCDs at Pantip Plaza, I have never had a problem with the vendors.
I have had occasional disks that were faulty, but if you take them back, they have always been exchanged with an apology and a smile!
Even, on occasion, when I have not had a PC wih me, and have taken the disk back three or four months later, on my next visit to Thailand, I get them changed.
The Thais have a fantastic memory for a Farang face, and will always remember what you bought, and how much you paid for it!
Same goes for the street markets (Patpong, Sukhumvit, etc). If you buy clothes that you find do not fit, take them back the next day, and they will change them no problem! Beats the service of many department stores in Europe and the US!
Siam Hotel coffee shop, on New Petchburi Road, is still the place for after-hours action!
Open all night, and still serving food and beers, this is the meeting place for all the girls working in the local massage parlours after closing time.
Not many Farang go there, mainly Thais, and a few Japanese and Chinese.
Girls generally 6-8, occasional 9s. However, getting a little greedy nowadays, and not many will consider ST for less than Bht 1,500. Occasionally will drop to 1,200 ... but not 500/1,000 like before.
If you don't want to take them back to your hotel, you can use the rooms in the Siam Hotel for Bht 400 ST.
Jaimito Cartero
09-23-03, 07:29
Well, here was my "low" point in Bangkok. An older (44 year old) lady that hung around Bier Garten. I only went in for a late dinner (really!), and she sat down by me.
I decided I would try a, "How low can you go", with her and see what would happen.
I got her down to 500 baht, said I could do a double shoot, and she would lick me anywhere I wanted her to.
She delivered on everything except the double shoot, and I'm sure I could have done it, but I wasn't that interested in it. I also saw her at Thermae, but she's a bit of a chain smoker, so that in itself turned me off.
Now I don't usually post any nude photos, but since there was the post about the two "no condom anals", I thought I'd post what I had, since she I think she would have gone bareback if asked.
jc: most of them will go bareback if you want - though not so many take it up the ass on the first date. and don't be hard on this lady: she is trying to compete and i, for one, would gladly fuck her (nice hooters btw). we want these women to fuck them, not to draw oil paintings. o**** seems to be a back end bb freak and probably knows the risks he runs. these women do not. my heart goes out to them and warm tears run down my cheeks when i think of their wretched lives. you should have paid her more and paid the younger tramp you photod in your hotel less - and you should have fucked her up the ass just so she knows the order of things. these older women are often better bang for the buck - though smoking cigaretes does show she probably never went to finishing school and so is not fully my type. glad you got your ass rimmed too. something for the next fussy guy to think about.
Jaimito Cartero
09-23-03, 18:18
Well if I wanted cheaper girls and less hassles all around, I'd probably just go to Pattaya. I like Bangkok for some of the markets and selection of movie theaters.
I did find a movie theatre in Chinatown in BKK for 50 baht.
I don't mind older ladies, as long as they perform well, and the tits aresn't sagging to the floor. Usually you figure that if they're still working, they know how to please.
Jaimito Cartero
09-23-03, 19:32
It's weird how your vision of Bangkok can change in a few months. In my first trip in May, I had at least 6 solicitations for young girls. ("You like 15 year old"?) This time none at all. It's funny, because when I was younger, I very much liked 15 year olds. Now, as I'm getting close to 40, I try very hard to stay away from anyone below 20.
The skill level that most 18-21 year olds have is rather low. As Freeler and Skinless has pointed out, some of the older ladies really know what they're doing.
The young girls will try and survive on their tight bodies alone. I'd rather have a 40 year old with no teeth who knows how to get it done, than a barbie looking 18 year old instant messaging on her phone.
One other weird fact. On my first trip of a week to Thailand (in May). I saw no elephants. On this trip, I was in BKK for 16 days, and saw no elephants. I went to Pattaya, and after a few days there I actually saw (and fed) one.
I came back to the Sukhumvit area for a week, and saw at least one elephant every day!
Women with no teeth give the best bjs. Though some women with lots of teeth are damned good too. You are probably not getting solicited so much as you look more purposeful. Now go and fuck someone as the night is still young
Jaimito Cartero
09-23-03, 19:50
Well, I'm back in the states now, so no fucking going on today. What I would pay to get a mediocre handjob at a MP would pay for a week of beauties in Pattaya, or 1 1/2 trips to Eden.
In my younger days I'd pick up street girls, but the danger, and low quality put me off of it a few years back.
GettingTang
09-23-03, 20:14
REPORTS FROM BANGKOK, NOW IN PATTAYA
Hello Fellow mongers. Life is good hear in Thailand. That is until I read feeler's reports about bombing plots against us westerners in our hotels and airliners being shot down. Geeze, feel, put a damper on my trip, lol! I will admit there is a hell of a lot of Arabs around these parts. I stand out as an obvious American westerner and find the dirty looks and "i hate you" faces all too common in these parts.
On to the pussy reporting.
My personal thanks to Jaimito Cartero, for his excellent field reporting! If I knew you were here in Pattaya, I would surly buy you a round. And I'm not talking about a beer! Great reports and photos. I have a good 30 photos, about half of the photos are of different girls on my memory card but having trouble uploading them to my laptop. Will report back later with photos.
Spent 4 days in Bangkok and just arrived a few hours back here in Pattaya. I took a private taxi service to Pattaya. Got to ride in an older Mercedes with AC, stocked with music and drinks in the rear for $32.00 US. Sure beats the fricken bus ride. Asked the driver to stop at some points of interest along the way. Not many but a few.
My last date, yesterday in Bangkok was among the best I have had. EVER!
Went to Patpong, ventured around several of the clubs. Noticed little to no change in the venu. Was about ready to give up and fetch a ride to Thermea, when I was approached by a group of girls, 4 to be exact. They sat with me. One of the girls in the group spoke fluent English and explained to me that he younger sister (as she put it) was interested in me because she thought I was nice, shy and sweet American! Along comes this timid, shy, sweet budding flower of a girl. Looked to be not a day over 16. I insisted that her sister show me her ID card and told her if I barfined her that the Masaman must guarantee me she is 19. This girl was hot! Her sister told me she was brand new to the scene, so be very nice to her and she was hand picking her first few dates to break her into the scene. Well, at first I thought it might be some sort of trick, if it was, the girl played the part to a "T".
She sat with me, I ordered her a drink. She spoke only a few words in English and we communicated through her sister. Anyhow, she was sweet, like a true virgin! I barfined her and agreed on 1500 baht for 4 hours!
Back at the hotel, this girl was shy as hell. At first even more then I cared for. It took me about 30 minutes just to get her undressed. I tried to DATY on her, but she was way to shy. Anyhow, I began kissing her as if she was an old HS girlfriend, she got into this. We made out for another 20 minutes and slowly I got her clothes of. She was a freshly ripened peach! Sweet as hell! I had to coach her each step of the way. She acted and felt like a true virgin. Through lots of coaching and persuasions I managed to get her to give me a BBBJ, it was a bit awkward but worked for me. She kept stopping and looking up at me as if to see if she was doing it right. This only got me going even more. Well, time came for the big wood to be inserted. She was nervous, scared. Gave me the signal about perhaps being to big. I negotiated her to be on top so she could take it in as she felt comfortable with.
She gets on top, takes a good 5 minutes to finally get me pecker in her. Only half way at first, she then began rocking harder and harder just a bit at a time, all of the sudden this girl lets loose and I could feel her cum! NO sh*t, I felt her juices running and pushing out. She went nuts, gave me three hickeys and f*cked me like a wild virgin. Best sex ever! I think she came 3 or 4 times! Very sweet girl. Her body was fresh, hot, firm all the way around. Perfect ass and tits. This sexual experience almost brought tears to my eyes, remembering the old High-school days of banging a few virgins. It was that good. Never even crossed my mind I was paying for it until I was done. I had to leave the next morning, but got her number and plan to visit her on my way back to the states from Pattaya.
While in Bangkok, I did the Eden club twice and soapy twice. Landed several afternoon freelancers from the different plazas and one from the mall. Bonked a checkout girl from the mall too.
Life is good in Thailand. Now, feeler, no more reports about bombings here in Thailand, not until I return home, lol.
GETTINGTANG~!
Great report and story, GT! Finding those situations can absolutely make a trip -- if I were you I'd look her up again before you go, as odds are she'll be seriously into whatever you propose.
Jaimito Cartero
09-23-03, 23:29
GT - Glad I was of some help.
Now at least you didn't hold the girl down and force your dick into her, making her scream, and bleed.
I had a few one use packets of lube that I brought with me. (Mainly for if I decided to get anally adventureous, which never happened). Never used them. I still have about 40 condoms in my luggage too, but it's better to have more than you need.
Jaimito Cartero
09-23-03, 23:56
GT - Your story of the girl reminds me of a 18 non-pro (I think) that I met in Managua earlier this year. It was such a GFE, but she was too shy for DATY, and while she attempted BBBJ, she needed some real schooling.
Even though the rest wasn't as good as I normally like it, the rest of the experience was great. I was really bummed out that she was going to Costa Rica the next day.
I went back to the disco that I found her at originally (Polankos), a month later and asked a girl she had been sitting with if she knew where she was. No luck.
Hi Guys,
Can we wrap up the CD discussion and return to the primary subject of this Forum?
Thanks,
Jackson
Question for "GettingTang": How did you get the MBZ Taxi to take you to Pattaya? I'm going next month and that sounds like the way to go. Was it associated with your hotel, or just parked out front, or did an agent arrange it for you? US$32 sounds OK for a comfortable trip. Also, what hotel did you use in Pattaya and do you recommend it?
Thanks--also if anyone will be in BKK or Pattaya around 17-22 October, let's meet up.
Got up early, swam a few laps and worked up a good appetite and hit the hotel buffet breakfast. The beautiful hostess seemed a bit curious about my snorkeling gear, maybe she was kinda flirting? Caught a movie at the Emporium theatre, Prom phong station at the skytrain. 120b. They have a nice view of the park adjacent to the complex if you are eating in the food court 6th floor. Very clean and hardly anyone there at 11am. Walked around and teased the vendors to get a feel for prices for when I am ready to buy. Ended up at the Bier garden one soi east of sukhumvit foodland. Bellied up to the bar and eyed an unusual looking girl. Seemed to be half arabic and thai. Slightly brownish black tinged shoulder length hair separating her from the others. Motioning her over, I notice her shapely, slim tan legs in high heels. I find out she is supposedly 1/4 mexican and 3/4 thai. No babies, maybe a b cup and a belly piercing. 25 yrs old and very hot. I tell her short time with smoke and she agrees. Taking her back to my hotel we shower together and she lays on the bed wrapped in her towel. She wants to turn off most of the lights, I agree to half. She says she likes massages and I like giving them. I start at her feet and slowly make my way up her calves and later position her in front of me as I cup and caress her firm tits and nipples. Women with no kids have the firmest mammaries. She is watching tv and I am watching myself knead her breasts in the mirror fronting the bed. She wants me to get on my back as she proceed to bbbj me and make me squirm by tonguing my balls. She looks puzzled as she plays with my pre-cum that is seeping from my head. I can't stand any more and begin to put on my rubber and she asks me what the lube is. I tell her it is "good for you." We begin pressing flesh with her on top, cowgirl. She has the sexiest smile and exotic eyes as she rides my pulsing dik. I next, get on top and proceeding to pump and holding out as much as I can, she lets me put her legs over my shoulders and do what I must. She is okay with kissing and I find her tongue in my mouth and mine in hers. That's the way I came, her tongue in my mouth, her legs wrapped around my back and her hands cupping my ass. I pull out and she inspects my load in the condom. " You have big" she says refering to the quantity of spunk. I tell myself, that was definitely one of the better ones. Price paid-900baht and no ladies drinks. You could say it was a good day.
JC:
I agree with your age/experience level theory. On my last trip I took two beauties from Nana on my first day. The better looking girl had very nice tits/ass/legs (a rather rare combination in Thailand) looked about 5-7 years older than her friend. To my surprise she was 36 and her younger friend 23. I had a very nice experience but all troughout the session you could tell who the most experienced was.
I don't know about everyone else but I always have a hard time guessing these girls age.
jodomas
GoodEnough
09-24-03, 18:47
Just spent 3 weeks in Bangkok after a 6 year absence and stayed in small "boutique" hotel within easy walking distance of Patpong and a 10 minute train ride from Nana. I found a bar called Cosmos on Patpong 2 that I hadn't remembered. Very nice girls and strictly no hassle at all. It's an attractive place and the owner even buys a round every now and then.
I'm comfortable with Bangkok, but this is my first solo trip, so the LoveLOS goes wild...
Sat 12AM
Arriving Bangkok around midnight, I cruised thru customs and located the non-group meeting area at the airport. I was picked up by friends who, due to relationships in the USA, need not know about my mongering adventures. They drove me back to Sukhumvit and we located the Grand President. When I confirmed the res and booked in, I bid them goodnight and set our timings for the morning.
1:30am
Got to room, declined the "massage" offer, dropped baggage, put stuff in safe, ordered more towels, changed clothes and headed out. I needed to locate Vitamin V and an internet cafe with fast access... and a girl. Down to Suk and thinking I would head to Thermae, off I went in that direction. Located two CLOSED pharmacies. Shit. Located a 24hr internet cafe in the middle of the old Clinton plaza area with DSL access. Cool. Lots of street action possible, but at this point, I'm just looking.
As an aside, I am comfortable with street walker action in the USA, so I was basically undaunted by the prospect of my first girl being a freelancer does not rattle me.
2:30a
Arrived at Thermae. SHIT, closed. The crackdowns have changed the scene. Oh well, I wonder how far it is to Cowboy? Keep walking. Accosted by a ladyboy. Narrowly avoided the assult charge and freed myself without incident and with wallet and money. Somewhere around Soi 17(?) I note and make eye contact with a beautiful girl standing with her friends at a phone booth. Location noted and I walk on to Asoke and note the empty Soi Cowboy. Noted some girls eating on the corner, but "PhoneBoothGirl" kept returning to my mind.
Found PhoneBoothGirl (calls herself NING) and started chating. The key phrase "where you go" was uttered, and my answer is "back to my hotel." We established she would like to go along and the price was "up to you" (my favorite phrase from a Thai girl).
PhoneBoothGirl was really very pretty, age 22yo, and I could only expect a starfish but I was pleased with the session. Separate shower and no DATY privelages were a concern, but the cowgirl action relieved my concerns for the dreaded sea creature attack. Relieved me in short order too... 1000B and she was happy too.
9-looks 7-sex 9-attitude 8-overall
4am
PhoneBoothGirl left and I did some unpacking and then out to locate NANA. Not much street action for Soi 11 to Nana, but there were a few dozen girls hanging out at Nana parking lot. Due to the hour, they were pretty much the leftovers.
Met "NanaGrubber" there and made similar negotiations as before. Now NanaGrubber (calls herself MAEM) was about 30 and not in the same league with PhoneBoothGirl as far as appearances. As I got into a taxi back to hotel, I saw one of the most gorgeous creatures... Shit. Note to self - more patience. Session was fairly good, but I'll be damned if I can remember it. My notes say 6-looks 7-sex 8-attitude 7-overall. Her nickname and my mental flushing of her occured at payment time. I offered her 1000B and she bithched and whined (money grubber) until I paid her 1500B just to shut the fuck up and get out.
6am
Sleep.
10am
Breakfast @hotel and off to work. Bought a 3 day pass for the BTS and it proved an amazingly good value for me. Worked till evening and then dinner with friends.
11pm
Finally free to roam again, but feeling the effects of lack of sleep and real work, I moved out to hunt. Went to the internet cafe and sent some quick emails and checked on crisises at home... Fixed them and I walked out and was at the Sport Bar in old Clinton Plaza.
12:30am
There I immediately spied "SportBarGirl1." Now SportBarGirl1 (calls herself BEE) has a wide flat face and nice figure. A makeup I found I was very attracted to... She's 29y.o. but looks 23. Had a Breezer and got her a LD. We had a short conversation before I decided I need to fuck her and get some sleep, so I took her LT. Since she was my first LT girl, I locked everything up while she was in the shower. The sex was OK, but cuddling with a stunningly gorgeous girl for the night was worth it. 9-looks 7-sex 7-attitude 7-overall (rating to change in the morning)
Thus ends my first 24 hours in heav... oops the LOS!
Hope you all enjoy the read and that there are enough paragraph breaks. Cudos to ChicagoGuy on ************** forum for his naming strategies.
LoveLOS
Malter Man
09-25-03, 09:34
Fellow mongers, got a russian girl for 2000Baht all night from the night club of Grace Hotel, Sukhumvit Soi 3. About 8 in looks but a real winner in bed. Did everything from bj to fucking in every imaginable position. She was 27 and said she had 3 kids back in St Petersburg, but her body really didn't look like she gave birth 3 times. A really inspiring bod. I had a good marathon sex session with her, starting with a really good old rub-up in the bath, beforehand. Any idea where I can find any more soviets around the Bangkok Area. They say there are a couple of sois on Sukhumvit where russians and ukrainians hang out, but don't know which ones.
9:30am
i awake to sportbargirl1. the morning sex was also decent, but again very mechanical. this girl is really pretty, but the starfish effect is starting to emerge. 9-looks 7-sex 5-attitude 6-overall. she pissed me off when she asked for 2500b lt. i gave her 2200b and that was plenty imho. with the barfine and drinks, i had invested another 710b in this one.
10:30am
breakfast done, i am off to the weekend market at mo chit bts station. the prices were good and i bought much mo shit than i needed to. i returned to the hotel, stashed the stuff and actually got some work done that makes my existence in the los feasible.
7:30pm
workday done, and i have a message from thin white duke (twd) from bangkok tonight forum. i reply and leave him a message to meet me at entrance to nana ent plaza at 10pm. i decide a soapy is in order.
7:30pm
grab a taxi and tell him to take me to chao phraya 2. he arrives at a massage place that was not chao phraya 2. i complain he is taking me to the wrong place and tell him to go on. he takes me to another place, halem, and i can see i am on new petchaburi road, not sri ayudhya road. shit. i paid the mother fucker and got out of his cab, telling him he should not wait. i then walked to another mp so he would hopefully not collect a tip for being an ass hole.
i ended up at angara massage, 1561/14-26, new petchaburi road soi 41. i was met by the papasan a-lang who started negotiations at 2500b for my choice in a fishbowl of 18 girls ranging from 5 to 7 in looks. i negotiated him to 2000b, but he wanted a 200b tip for himself. he did offer some of the homlier divas there for 1500b, but i wanted more eye candy than that.
i chose littlesoapygirl (calls herself mu) who is a very petite 25y.o. girl. i ordered drinks and we went upstairs. she was a bit shy and was taken by our size difference. the bath was nice but did not include the action i had been expecting. the mattress was also nice, but simply a soapy body to body rub. when i finally bedded this sweet little thing i persuaded her to do me cowgirl so she could control the penetration. her puss was a new record for tightness around little lovelos. a very pleasant, but single pop session garnered the following stats: 7-looks 7-sex 7-attitude 7-overall
8:30pm
taxi to nana entertainment plaza. i have 90minutes to tour the place before meeting twd. starting at lollipop and glancing in on voodoo, i did not stay there. i ambled around to obsession and wandered in. here is where my memory failed me, i knew i had heard about obsession, but i forgot what...
i was greeted by a tall, well built girl who proceeded to pull her top up. a nice tittie feel and i am giving her a more critical appraisal. <<shit>> my ladyboy combat senses flared and i spotted that adam's apple. i was out of there in 5 seconds. there are two ladyboy bars in nep, cassanova on the 2nd floor, left rear, and obsession, on the first floor, right rear. now i fucking remember...
i ran right past rainbow 1 and hollywood and poked my nose into playskool. that was pretty lame at that time so i decided to try the second floor.
9:30pm
up the escalator and i was accosted by five girls too small to be lady boys, so i allowed them to escort me right into mandarin. i was still getting used to the upper level clear dance floor when a dancer planted a kiss on my lips. a few moments later, a wild little chinese-looking girl gives me a dfk. if you think that grabs the attention, her grabbing little lovelos really made things good. the next half hour i nursed one drink, two titties, and petted the sneak-peek snatch.
10pm
i had pretty much decided to barfine "wildthing" when i realized it was time to meed twd. i explained the situation to wildthing and told her i would be back to barfine her later. i left to meet twd.
i spent about 20minutes before i decided twd had not gotten my message and gave up. while waiting at the entrance to nep, i fine tuned my skills of identifying ladyboys at a safe distance. i also discovered "no boy for me, kap" is an effective and polite method of repelling their props.
10:20pm
night was fairly young and i decided to tour some more of nep before taking wildthing to bed. i started the tour on the second floor on the opposite end of mandarin. i completely missed rainbow 3 and tittie twister. i stopped in at hogs breath, but bailed after one breezer. i looked at angel witch, and the show was not on so i moved on. i quick stepped past casanova and guess i was still running when i went past g-spot.
11:00pm
i came across this small bar that i could not remember ever hearing about. temptations. it also says spyder bar another place. there were only about 6 girls and 2 men, but all of the girls looked way above average, so i stepped in, sat and ordered a breezer. i started assessing the dancers and locked eyes with a tall and well built girl. the adam's apple was not there, the bikini left little concern about a dick coming out later. hmmmmm, could i have just found a thai girl that can play with me size wise? she had a scorpion tat on her arm and the most devilish grin on her face. i think i'll nickname her mytemptation. at the end of the dance, she was in my lap. sweet voice and soft, natural tits. a peek at the puss and she passed my paranoia test. gawd, this is a woman, incredible...
i barfined her for st in short order and while she changed, her friends absolutely attacked me. when she came back, i had a lady in each arm. she laughed and told them goodnight. passing mandarin on the way out was my only thought of wildthing the rest of the night. hand in hand and arm in arm, this catch was more friendly than any girl so far...
11:30pm
showered together and mytemptation absolutely rocked my world. she allowed me daty and dfk and i made it a point to make it good for her too. this was by far my best session in thailand, and one of the better in my life. 9-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall
i knew i had made a mistake the night before by letting phoneboothgirl out of my room after st and ending up with a less appealing model, but i figured i was done for the day and had computer work to do. i would make it a mission to lt this one later. it turned out for the better this time as the reader will find. one can never plan anything in thailand.
at this point i need to interject that i really want to keep track of mytemptation while i am away from los. i'm not in love, but i would be heartbroken to find she had changed bars and i could not find her next time. i need a senior member to take my email address to her, and get hers for me. like i said, i'm not in love so feel free to take her for some great sex if you like, please treat her well. email me at dirtbag 667 at hotmail dot com for details about her and her picture, which i will not post here per her request.
back to the report:
1:00am
i regretfully said good byes to mytemptation, and went to my internet cafe. sportbargirl1 was wanting me to sit, and toweled me off with a cool washcloth, but i declined to stay and went on to my internet.
i had a lot of email to answer and also noticed there were three girls working the chat rooms. two were particularly attractive. i noticed about four chat windows open on their screens. fuckin-a, working the boyfriends... lol... i started flirting with one girl as she would laugh at something on her screen. at one point she moved her camera to show her necklace. given her cleavage was exceptional, i made sure i had fun with that one. another time she shows a photo of an ad slick with the model in her underwear. from then on i teased her about the deception. seems the photo got used by all three girls about 6 times... i was laughing big time.
3:45am
i finally had nothing else to do, so i paid and left. bars were thankfully closed so i did not have to deal with sportbargirl1. i got fifty feet away and decided i would try to bed this one, even though i still was not sure she was a pro. when i came back she asked why did i came back. i told her i came to see her. laughs. well, apparently her friend had noted my attentions and told her the same. she finished her chatting in about 5 minutes and asked "r u ready 2 go". i logged off and was out of there.
i am going to have to give you all a hint with the nickname here. in honor of nokna i will call her "thegirl." nokna, unfortunately, as you read my reports, you will see some parallels with your girl... why the fuck didn't i learn from your fuck ups? but that is for nokna and i and those who had the chance to read his reports to see... the rest of you will have to wait and read.
thegirl is 28y.o. and curvacious, not chubby, but not necessarily to the thai standard of beauty in that she has a nice round ass and great natural tits. she suits this farang just fine. she actually played a bit hard to get and i had to buy her a drink from a street vendor because she didn't want to go straight back to the hotel... ok, either a selective pro or she is non-pro. hmmmmmm
in the course of our conversation, i asked her what she did for a living. the reply, "i think you know" confirmed pro status. i took her to the hotel for lt, one proud mother fucker with this catch. showered and then we had a wonderful session that included bbbj, daty and some ass play. when the condom went on she asked if i liked her ass, to which i replied i loved her ass. that is what i got, the best anal session i have ever had... 8-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall...
before sleep, we watched a movie and i soaked in that light brown skin, brown eyes and black hair. i was smitten. and i fucking know better. now i understand how those stickman stories get written.
the saga continues...
lovelos
Absolutely great stuff, LoveLOS, and thanks for the detailed reports. I think you're overpaying a bit for freelancers, but whatever, and your approach does show a bit of the problem with the "up to you" approach. Simpler to settle on a price and dangle a good tip for exceptional service.
But sounds like you're having a great time -- all that and managing to get your work done, too! Any pics of MyTemptation?
I need some info, is there any places where I can buy "adult items", any S&M places, and last any web page that give you info about american stiel food, ie locations.
ANYONE,
know about Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve in BKK?
Is it a riot? I mean one big free-for-all, wild party? (I dont mean 'free').
Or is it better to avoid the christams and new year's eve or day?
Need to know before I finalize my stop overs.
Thnaks.
Christmas and New Years Eve are interesting times in Thailand in general and Bangkok can be lots of fun. Sometimes it can be a little slower in Bangkok over that time. So many Thai leave the city that the traffic level is much lower. To the Thais Christmas means very little but they get extra public holidays for the New Year, and this year they will make it into a long weekend.
Pattaya and Phuket are always packed with people over the holidays but Bangkok is a little slower. That said I still will be in Thailand over the holidays.
Originally posted by Joe Zop
But sounds like you're having a great time -- all that and managing to get your work done, too! Any pics of MyTemptation?Joe,
Pic not on the forum by her request, but email me and I'm OK with it for you. Please do me the favor of passing my email address to her and asking her to write me should you locate her.
dirtbag 667 at hotmail dot com
Thanks for the tip on the negotiations for freelancers. I'll have to apply it next trip, but every trick you learn makes for a better experience...
LoveLOS
8:30am
Awake to TheGirl, and another absolutely wonderful session. 8-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall... This girl is incredible. She advises me where to find her again, and I decide that will be soon. I am meeting a client for breakfast, so off we go.
TWD finally gets me on the phone and we agree to meet at NANA at 10pm. thaiaficionado will be there too. Cool.
9:30pm
Vitamin V (generic) finally acquired. 1200B for box of 4 @ 100mg. 1/2 tablet accidentally ingested. hehehe...
10:00pm
Nana hotel. Hook up with Thin White Duke and thaiaficionado. We hang around the lobby for a while, getting acquainted. NANA is the party venue so off we go.
I immediately found it pretty damn funny the personalities of the three of us. Thaiadicionado is so laid back, and he just camps out, drinks, and enjoys the women. I'm the horny bastard in the middle and TWD is the party animal. Another amusing difference is the attitude that TWD and LoveLOS have toward ladies drinks. TWD takes the high ground here. I think it goes something like "they are a fucking scam, 200B for a cola is piracy." He is right. LoveLOS takes the low road, "If the girls will show you a better time, the drink thing is worth the price." Much more research is required to determine which policy is the best...
10:30pm
Angel Witch is the first destination. TWD is determined to show me a good time. Well, by the time the first show is over, TA is cozying up to a sweetie, and I have "AngelGirl" on my lap (Calls herself Nok). TWD has an intense hatred for the mamasan, so he is hitting her up like a bar girl. Great party. A couple of drinks later and I am noticing that AngelGirl is the most petite creature ever to grace my lap, and she is a lot of fun. Remember that purple thingy that I accidentally swallowed?
Made arrangements to meet up with the bros at Playskool. I barfined AngelGirl and went to the short time hotel on the third floor of NEP. 300B gets you a clean room with a shower for up to an hour I think. AngelGirl lathers me up in the shower. Nice. Being that she is in the middle of her workday and I am needing to meet up with the bros, we make it a quickie. She sets a new standard for how tight a pussy little LoveLOS can squirm into. 7-looks 8-sex 9-attitude 7-overall Cost: 1500 girl+500 barfine +300 room (TWD bought drinks, thanks!)
More to come but I need sleep.
LoveLOS
Can anyone tell me what time the Eden club opens?
Has anyone of you already tried buying Viagra/Edegra/Karmagra or whatever in BKK? What’s the easiest to get?
Not that I need it, just for the fun of it. Besides, if I don’t use it there, I can’t use it with our European half-an-hour frigid *****s, surely.
day 3, part 2
before returning to my musings, i missed three events that i'll note here. the first was that i happened upon phoneboothgirl, my first and a true hottie on the street. i was in a hurry to meet somebody, and so i could not spend some more time. i never found her again or the story may have played differently. the second thing occurred as i was making my way to nana to meet twd and ta, i met mytemptation on the street. she was escorting a girlfriend back home. i spoke to her and told her i was coming to the bar to meet her again and she looked quite pleased. last aside is the viagra/silagra. the price of the original version is about 4x the cost for the copy. i cannot tell the difference in combat. got the generic at soi 13.5 at a small pharmacy across from sport bar. 1200b for 4 - 100mg pills, which are usually taken in 50mg doses.
back to the tale:
11:30pm
i catch up with twd and ta in playskool. they are about finished with their first round, and so i pick up another round, which totally confused ta, who probably didn't notice my arrival due to his attentions being focused on the cute thing in his lap. i got a good seat and managed to have two girls attack me in relatively short order, so i am beginning to like this bar. the ho that i am i did buy the two ladies drinks and received my just rewards in the form of some fondling and other behavior that is totally ungentlemanly. twd called time as his girl got pissed about his no ladies drinks policy and we finished our drinks and left... this is where twd and i had some spirited debate about the lady drink thing. i really do agree with his position in principle, but it takes a stronger man than i to hold steadfast to my principles in a gogo bar... my hats off to you twd. since the girls get about 40b per drink, i thought i would try just slipping baht bills into panties, more on that later.
12:30am
next stop was mandarin, but i dragged twd over to temptations to meet mytemptation. i got a hug and dfk from her best friend (one of the girls who attacked me when mytemptation had gone to get dressed), but mytemptation wasn't coming back tonight. i had misunderstood. shit.
we rejoin ta who is happily ensconced at a front stage seat at mandarin, girl in lap. twd and i happily join the fray and i soon locate wildthing. she and her girlfriend are dancing and they see the wild pair and move to us. now at this point i think wildthing recognized me and decided i had lied to her last night, so she begins [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) twd. i have to console myself to the gentle abuse of her girlfriend. i do like this bar, the girls are a blast... twd gets up and goes upstairs, wildthing follows. in about half an hour twd comes back without wildthing so i'm wondering wtf? nothing. really? ok.... i had them figured for a quickie or something, but twd maintains innocence and that he was at the upstairs dance floor. guess wildthing raped another guest, not knowing i was thinking on barfining her. now she is no beauty, but that attitude would definitely make for an interesting social experience alone with her in my hotel room. not to be...
1:30am
twd suggests we adjourn to nana disco, where he hoped to find his lt for the night. failing that, he advised there is the 2am rush as all the unclaimed ladies descend on nana hotel parking lot in the most wonderful pairing frenzy this monger has ever witnessed. the crackdowns have changed little (imho), just rattled our chains. i would suggest anyone thinking the crackdowns are having their desired effect to go to nana hotel at 2:15 am... i digress. ta was still happy as a clam in the arms of a nice thing he planned to barfine at closing, so we bid our farewells and departed. 160b buys your first beer @ nana disco and the female/male ratio is good. many many hot freelancers... we lurked for a while, and then were making our first trip across the dancefloor when i was attacked, kissed and hugged by a girl i recognized as sportbargirl1. her attitude seemed better than last time, and i still thought she was hot in the eye candy dept, so i thought i would give her and another load. we agreed on 1000b st and she asked what hotel... wtf? then i realized this was not sportbargirl1!!! ok. new nickname, "discotwin" should help us remember.
2:00am
i bid farewell to twd who was still scouting and left with discotwin (calls herself liam). back at the hotel, she went from wild and crazy lets-go-fuck-for- fun to a greedy, whiney starfish... shit, what a waste of time. 9-looks 6-sex 5-attitude 4-overall... the 1000b wasn't good enough and wanted 500b for a taxi, cause she lived a long way off. no fucking way am i going to pay for her ride that damn far. i agree on 200b for taxi, pay her and we leave the hotel. i'm pissed and want another girl to erase my memory from this nightmare.
2:30am
on the street i decided i'm going back to nana parking lot, and discotwin shared the taxi with me. no, she did not give my 200b taxi fare back. now she wants food. bbbbiiiittttcccchhhh... i agree to food, and tell her we'll get it at nana. we got into nana parking lot and she saw a friend, and took her hooks off me to chat. lovelos disappeared into a sea of women wanting to have sex with him, never to be seen by that starfish again. there were taxis, with what i can only assume are happily married farang/thai couples, leaving by the dozens. totally amazing. about three minutes of sleuthing thru the bounty, and i made eye contact with a petite cutie. not to be confused with chicagoguys's girl "nanahotttie", i have to nickname this one "nanacutie." (calls herself neu). agreed on 1000.
2:45am
back at the hotel again. nanacutie is the prettiest girl i bedded this trip. absolutely gorgeous. small, round face, her id put her at 19y.o. which is also the youngest i took. sorry guys, she would not let me take her picture. she didn't bother with a shower and got straight to work. she didn't want to do bbbj which was probably a mistake for her, since i have now had two other women within the last three hours, and the last was within the hour. the silagra fooled both of us into thinking little lovelos was ready for her sweet little snatch... man was she a trooper. we fucked like rabbits for 45minutes in every position i could think of... i reached near orgasm about six times but there was no jizz possible with that raincoat on... i considered bareback, but my big head did prevail on that point. i finally faked it, pulled out and ripped the raincoat off and told her i was good. hell, it was damn good, and she got some satisfaction in the process too. we definitely showered after the event... 10-looks 8-sex 9-attitude 9-overall... gladly donated 1000b to the nanacutie college fund and another 100b for a taxi. a deep wai confirmed her satisfaction with the payment.
4:00am
hungry. and even though i had just endured four hours of amazing sex and fondling gogo girls, and was completely satisfied, i wanted to go to sleep with thegirl tonight. i realize this was not a good sign, i'm not supposed to fall for a working girl. fuck it, i'm off to thermae. stop by the internet cafe and check email, hoping to meet thegirl. no dice. at thermae (on the sidewalk outside), i get my plate of rice with ground pork and some chicken and basil yet another breezer. an older girl comes around and wants to go to the hotel. no. then she wants to sit. up to you. she wants a drink, no. still she sits with me... guess i'll call her "bulldog" (calls herself a) because she is about that attractive and definitely that persistent. so i am sitting there eating my dinner, drinking my breezer, and ignoring bulldog all together. a guy from new zealand wanders by and sits. we talk for half and hour. he too was amused about bulldog. we got up and left together and had another breezer on the way. i'm drunk. we stop at the internet and thegirl is not there, so i leave a note telling her i'd like to see her tomorrow, meet me at 2am.
5:00am
nzguy and i are still chatting and he stops at a store for a bottle to bed down with. he noted that bulldog had followed us... he also gave me a theory of his about the depth of bbbj a girl could accept without choking based on the protrusion of the jaw and the placement of the ears... by his theory, bulldog should be a star. now maybe that would finish the job that i could not with nanacutie. i indicated to her i wanted a bj and she readily agreed to 500b.
5:30am
amazing, i was now going with the ugliest and oldest girl this trip... fucking beer goggles. this is the night that the guard in the lobby stopped asking for my room number as he now had it committed to memory... with raised eyebrows, he said "three" at our arrival, i had to correct him (he didn't know about angelgirl, who i did not bring back), "no four." he just smiled... bulldog had a decent body for a 35y.o. so i am thinking i need a paper bag for her face... well nzguy's theory was flawed. bulldog wasn't shit for a bbbj. she constantly stopped wipe her mouth with a towel... that is a major pet peeve and i cannot get off when they do that shit. i finally put on a raincoat, hoping she would at least keep at it. no good, poor technique. well, her body wasn't too bad so i fucked her. to my surprise she did know how to use that pussy. she managed to clamp down pretty good and i blew the load. i gave her 700b, kicked her ass out and fell asleep within minutes. 5-looks 8-sex 8-attitude 7-overall wish she could have had a few minutes to train nanacutie on the proper use of kegal muscles. oh well.
well, i hope somebody out there is enjoying these tales...
lovelos
Picture of DiscoTwin, If you compare it side by side to the earlier picture of SprotBarGirl1, you can probably see how a drunken monger in a disco could confuse these two girls... LoveLOS
LoveLOS,
NICE reports!
What the hell is wrong with that 'A'-babe. It's like Skinless said on anoyther page:
'When your cock (if you have one) is inside a TG, are you really admiring her face?'
She had pussy control:). And that's something very few 18 yo's have:(.
Lovelos: HIDE THE FUCKING TOWELS!!!! ALWAYS!!!!!
The best way to get an A grade bj is to love them and be nice to them. Always tell them you love them and they are differrent. Never pay taxi fare; always pay in small notes so it looks bigger and they don't have to break a big note for a taxi fare. Some Muslims do have BJs down to the finest of arts but if you work them up on their pussies, asses or tits, you will get a great bj . Akways remember: nothing good comes easy. You gotta rev up these little motor bkes before you can properly ride them. Drive sensibly. And wear a helmet:)
Freeler,
Unfortunately, unless I are doing her doggie, the face is one of the factors that affect my enjoyment of the romp. I find this is especially true with Thai girls, who mostly have those big brown eyes that seem to get inside your head... ;)
I cannot tell you how many American girls I have done doggie JUST so I could avoid looking at an ugly face, saggy tits, etc. Maybe I'll have to learn to close my eyes and use my immagination more. =LOL
I do have to admit although her oral techniques were pathetic, that pussy was pretty damn good.
Skinless,
Good advice. I had to laugh about the towels. Having had other guests in the day, I was down the hall where they store the linens snagging extra towels before I left, since I was planning to bring "TheGirl" back for LT... I bet I had more towels in my room than anybody on the floor. All the dirty ones were stashed in a drawer.
I have to agree with your comment that nothing good comes easy and the analogy to the motorbike... ROFL. More reports as I get them written.
LoveLOS
Don't get me on about towles. I hate the way they abuse them. In few hours I bring my tomboy darling Keiko to a love hotel: plenty of his n her towels. Keiko looks like this:):):) big smiles on her tomoby face. She even bjs me as we are sitting up to the table. A true lady. Only thing short time here is 120 minutes. So I go to get 120 minutes of perversion. That is how I BUDGET. We must always budget and if Freeler thinks he does not budget, well the Pope ain't a Catholic. I will pay Keiko 10k yen, plus small tip, plus 3 k for the room plus a small present (Love and over budget) But I have already limited myself to a set number of bonks with her. Love is cruel.
So is Lovelos: Love them especially the uglier ones. Tell them they are beautiful. Get em laughin, get em smiling. Did you ever go to a circus as a kid? Well now you get to fuck the clown. And smetimes, if you are lucky, the elephant as well. But I get to fuck the tiger. Keiko I Love you...... and your little tits.
Hyey Jackson: sorry if I am going off topic. But I love tigers and hate hos who use our towels. The Thai goverment should be craking down on that.
Fly for Thai
09-28-03, 05:10
My first visit to the land of smiles.
I know you all want to here the good stuff. But a little background first. I traveled from Milwaukee to Bangkok Departing about 9:30 AM on Aug. 11th. I arrived around 11PM on August 12th. Ouch that was a painful trip. Without going into details, I get to travel for free. The downside is that it is all stand-by. If the flight is empty I usually am given a first class seat. If no other is available then I'll take a coach seat. What the hell right? It's free. Well, I got bumped off 2 flights out of ORD. I ended up flying to MSP so I could catch a Northwest flight to Tokyo. But, the only seat I could get was in coach between two Japanese guys who didn't speak English. By the time I got to Tokyo I felt like spam in a can. I still had 6 hours. Next time I go to BKK, I'm going off off peak.
I got in and gave half a thought of trying to find the arrival level to avoid the 50 baht charge. Diminished brain capacity due to jet-lag persuaded me to spring for the extra $1.09. Checked into the Majestic (separate review will be posted in hotel section). Showered, shaved and hit the street, Nana bound by 12:30 or so. I made the short walk to Nana and can you believe it? Nana is closed!!!! Why didn't someone post a warning before I left? Turns out they closed Nana for the Queens birthday?!? Hmmm, I noticed all kinds of attractive talent on the street. But I decided to head for Nana disco. It's closed too. OK, off I go to the Grace hotel. Lots of Middle Eastern men here. I decide that they probably aren't going to shit where they eat. So it's probably pretty safe. Some cute girls here but the cute ones are all taken. I spend an hour or so and hit the street again.
I found Lei on Sukumvit. I think she said she was 30. She has the tightest body. She had a bit of a beer buzz. Which I think made for a very fun encounter. Not enough to feel ill. Just enough of a buzz to feel real good. Something about her just turned me on. I think it was that wonderful smile. I was getting hard just talking to her in the street. But I didn't travel all that way for conversation. I invite her up and ask how much. She says (let's say it together) "up to you." Just like you guys have said on this forum time and time again. I offer a 1000 baht ST. She agrees and off we go.
The hotel deskclerk checks her ID. No joiner fee. Up to the room. She showers. I shower (again). We fall into bed in short order. No problem with leaving the lights on. I've got the safe sex stuff on the night table. What an enthusiastic lover. Her body is nice but not perfect. She has some stretch marks due to pregnancy. But she is tight now. And she can suck with the best of them. I've brought flavored condoms and either she likes them or she just really likes sucking a guy off. I am tired and I'm afraid that if I pop I'm going to sleep immediately and I had to try that sweet Thai pussy. I go down for a bit. I can't believe how small and tight she is. Nothing like the fat bitching cows back in the states. I break out some astroglide. I start some digital play. And then she takes over. Damn she's hot to look at, masturbating inches in front of my face. I take off the condom that was used for oral and slip on a different ultra thin one. I toss the flavored one on to a towel on the edge of the bed. I flip her over and slip it in for my first experience with Asian pussy. And it was good. After a few seconds she says something about condom and squirms her bottom up a bit. I say something through the haze like "I've got a condom on." Another minute later with a voice that sounds tortured with a desire to keep fucking and a desire to be safe she says "Condom." I check and sure enough the condom is on. She just can't see it in that position. I don't want to stop. But I don't want her to freak either. I flip her over and show her. She hadn't seen me put the second condom on. She was all apologetic. And then she was all over me. We switched to mish for a while. And then Asian cowgirl. Now that's a treat! That was way too much for me and the envitable occured. Back into the shower. This time we showered together. That was fun. She apologized again about the condom thing. We chatted for a bit. She suggested I hire her and her friend tomorrow. I took her picture and slipped a 1000 baht in her back pocket. Then she was on her way.
I considered a twosome with her friend. But for my first trip I really was set on butterfly mode. She had a little mental baggage because she has a child who is now with some guy in Japan. But what a fine fuck! I could have done far worse hiring her again for a second night.
Fly for Thai
09-28-03, 06:04
Day two:
Hit the usual tourist stuff. Grand Palace, a must see. Wat Arun, great photos from across the river. Got a very nice foot massage for an hour for 250 Baht. Then the evening arrived and the real fun began.
Tonight Nana will be open. It has to be open. And thank God, it was. My first Go-Go; Angel Witch. I knew what to expect going in from this website and pictures around the net. And yet I was stunned for maybe 5-10 minutes. Truly stunned. All these lovely young asian girls all on stage at once dressed nearly identically. Some wonderful asian version of the fem-bots from Austin Powers or the girls in the music video to Addicted to Love. While they were lovely, they weren't very energetic. And this was my first bar. I finished my beer and was pleased how quickly my money was taken and change was returned. I hate it when I'm in a bar and I'm ready to leave and it takes for ever to pay the check. I found Angel Witch was much like ever other bar in Bangkok as far as service. Order a drink, poof it appears quick and cold. Want to pay and leave, bam there's your change and you are out in a flash. I took my beer with me to a couple bars. I don't know if this was technically allowed. One momason asked if I bought the bear outside. Well, in a sense yes. I didn't buy the beer in the bar. So I bought it "outside." Though I think she was asking if I bought it from the open air bar in front of her bar.
I think I ended up in Playskool or Rainbow 1. There I met a girl. I think her name was Nok. Or something like that. I thought she was really cute. I smiled at her. She smiled at me. She joined me after her little bit of dancing on stage. She spoke very little English. But what the hell. She was cute. I paid 1500 baht for ST. plus the bar fine. And we were out of there. It sure was nice having a room at the Majestic. Great location. Same deal as the night before. They checked her ID. No hassles at all. Up to the room. We shower. I find myself drawn in by her eyes. Great lips and nice kisses. But everything else drew no response. She didn't initiate anything. Just did a fine imitation of a starfish. Thank God for astroglide. That pussy was so tight! She finally got into it when we switched to doggie. Very nice view of that ass that fits in the palm of your hand rocking my cock. So in conclusion. Good BJ. Good Body. Great Pussy Very little enthusiasm.
Finished by asking for a photo as she put on her jeans that were at least 8 inches too long. None of the girls asked for or acted like they wanted a tip.
Pajama'ed Thai massages...BORING! (What's all that pajama-ing about I wonder?)
Oily, oil massages....a bit better.
But, can anyone recommend a body-to-body soapy parlour that I can bargain down to around THB1000, (Sukhumvit/New Petchburi area)
Going minimum quote last night was THB 1500 for ageing ratbags behind the glass and more for Superstars sitting out front.
MOOG
7 Days to relax in BKK or From the Balls ache to the Headache
I left Taiwan on the Thursday 18th by the first flight and 4 hours later, after passing the custom I was able to met my French fellow ( with all my luggages in the hands for one time, no lost so a little surprised) in the arrival hall at 12h30.
The long nose bastard was already in Bkk since the 10th and planned everything in my back, no deception about the welcome hostess with him, 2 pieces of Thai art nicely dressed with the respective size of D and DD cup, or Ms Anchalee and Ms Neethala (I will say the both are 8 looking without make up). So direction Ms DD car and jumped in the back seat with Ms D, I did not have the choice but not complain at all he he he.
After 1 hour and some warm fondles later we arrived to the Royal asia lodge in Suk soi 8, about 400 to 500 meters from Sukumwhit, so no traffic noise, my friend already checked in the presidential suite ( 2 big bedrooms, a nice living room and a kitchenette for 60 $us/night) in the second building ( royal asia paradise), they are refurbishing the room in the first building so try to avoid it for awhile if you don’t like the early wake up with hammers and jigsaws.
So my friend is taking care of my luggage during the time I fill my check in card and then I am up there going direct for a shower, the unpacking will wait, shortly joined by Ms D under the water for some wet game, then after an angel jump in the bed we proceed to visit the 4 corners of it and try to finish a tube of KY in 1 session, well we failed for that last thing but after 3 loads and 2/3 of the KY ( mostly on their breast and her ass, a little for my prostate massage during the bj) in 2 hours, letting me without breath, sweating like a marathon runner and close to the hypoglycemia ( had only the free meal in the flight the morning), followed another shower and some unpacking, then dress well for the dinner.
18h00 direction Ploenchit soi 1 with the girls to meet with a friend Hotel manager, Mr. O (the girls are some of his connection and I still don’t know that much yet). He welcome us with one of his friend ( manager of the CM2, never been to this place before this trip, but wasn’t expecting a disco with 2000 peoples capacity fill with an average of 2 girls for a man and the quarter of these girls are Russians ( Messieux the mongers have a good hunt).
22h00, after a wave of Ricard and a nice dinner, the CM2 manager had to leave us, then we decide to follow Mr. O for a digestive in a special place (in fact same style than The Cave but the worst version). I apologize because I don’t remember the name of the place and the location, I was keep playing with the sweet thing next to me, but when we arrived a girl was standing in front of the door in HIGHT heel and leather clothe with a whip in one hand, Mr. O (another French bastard this one) manage to let my friend enter first, but the HIGHT heel girl came on him and slap his face with her free hand telling him: you like that BbiitcH!!!!!!
All of us tried to rush inside but I received 2 gentle lashes of her whip on my ass ( my sweety will have to pamper me with nivea cream later), so after no more than drinks, laugh, chat and fondle until we left at 1h30 after agree With Mr. O for a rendez vous the next day in the evening ( or this day later as it was already the morning), then back to the hotel for a last whipping cream session before to fall under the fatigue and the dryness.
End of day 1
Jaimito Cartero
09-28-03, 23:26
Yo - Interesting report, but you must format it a bit better to be readable. Paragraphs and so forth.
JuiceSpike
09-29-03, 02:52
SA,
I just saw your post about meeting in BKK. I hope you did not show up to Gulligers on Sat afternoon. It is hard to set up something in here. You can email me your mobile number if you want to meet at nightbkk@yahoo.com
juice.
Guys,
Having a great time. So far it has a been a busy time with little sleep which I need to catch on. Things are as usual in Bangkok. Not much noticeable difference with the so called "crack down." I will pst pictures with reports when I get back. I have been seeing girls I met trhough the internet. Some good times.... one girl turned out to be a total nut case. Great in bed but one morning she decided that 7 AM was "exercise" time and turned on the CD player and started to dance like she was in a club....The shit I have to put up with for free sex.... I noticed a lot of freelancers walking around everywhere and some look really good... Tried 2 so far...
juice
Thanks for pointed that Jaimito, just did the changes and I think it's a little better, will try to do better for the next ones.
To be honest the first day and the 2 last days of this trip was the best in term of blast, the rest of the week was more quiet and touristic.
I send the second report tonight
yoyo
MrGhostRider
09-29-03, 13:42
I am contemplating heading to BKK this week thru the weekend... for those now based in BKK now (or have just recently visited) - is it a bad time due to pre-APAC crackdown activities?
should i wait until this is over?
thanks in advance for any insights
PosterLion
09-29-03, 15:01
agoodfella,
It's a great time to go in my honest opinion. I just got back last Monday (the 22nd) and this was my first September in BKK. As far as I'm concerned, it is the best month to be in BKK becuase the weather is quite cool compared to the rest of the year.
I haven't got anything to report about the regular mongering spots because I haven't been to them since April. But I saw plenty of Bar Girls crying on farang shoulders at the airport when I left. As for the places I did visit: Bed Supper Club, Club 87, and Freeman Dance Review, there were plenty of girls to pick up and take home with you.
The bar at Bed Supper Club was packed with Thai girls. Unfortunately it did get raided around 1:30 or 2:00am. There were plenty of girls at Club 87 as well and it did not get raided. There where no girls at Freeman Dance Review except for my girlfriend and my friends girlfriend, but it's a great place to observe the Katoeys and it's quite entertaining.
From reading everyone's mongering reports, plus my own personal observations, I'd say you should go ASAP.
The only thing I noticed about APAC were the signs at the Skytrain stations.
Cheers,
poster...
agoodfella,
Read my reports past two pages. There have been a few changes, but I never lacked for a woman in my bed. Things are good in Bangkok.
enjoy
LoveLOS
PS all - More reports coming...
19th, Day 2 Not funny or not completely
10h30 First wake up, Ms D had to go, I still try get more info about her and her friend, she just told me than everything had been settled and I don’t have to worried, if I want more ask to Mr. O, I tipped her 2000bath even if she was keep telling me than it was not necessary. After they left, I came back to climb the pillow mountain until my friend kicked my ass out of the bed at 13h30.
Before to go to lunch, we stopped by the hotel front desk and reserved for a tour at the Damnoen Saduak floating market the following morning: departure at 06h30, I ‘m gonna love that. Then we went to the Beer garden in Suk soi 7, it’s 15h00 and already rocking with hungry pussies hunting around. New wave of Ricard, a good meal (the food is a correct German brasserie style, nothing wrong) and a quiet chat with my friend until 16h30, now it’s time for fun and discovery: let’s go to soi Cowboy.
We walked to go there and started to visit all the bar (the go-go are dead the afternoon), I have only came there 2 twice and the last time was last November, have to say than the quality is really down (May be because it’s still low season and the recent crackdown???), so quite disappointed, anyway we land in the Toy bar, only 3 Danish, dick out or close to be, playing with bar girls. We went straight to the fond of the bar and sitting at it, ordered beers and saw arrive from the first floor 2 cuties, 21 and 23 yo, just had to say “hello” and they was in our arms, after chatting a little THE question arrived:
_You buy Ladies drink??
_You drink Tequila Honey??
_OK la
_4 tequila please
And the scratching game is starting, the girl with my friend is more open and aggressive, she went straight to his cock and soon after opened his shirt and licked his nipples. Mine was a little shy, so I was chatting her nicely kissing her gently in the neck.
_ 4 more tequila please
After greeting them about their beauty ( will say they are 7 due to the low light there, Ms 21 (mine) have B+ cup and Ms 23 C cup, the 2 very firm and hard nippled) Ms 23 putted down her trousers and showed us her nice ass, after readjustment we saw her chest, firm and natural (the inspection confirmed this).
Ms 21 was now attacking my lil bro but didn’t want to show, until she made the mistake to ask:
_Want more drink??
_You show us what you have under your clothes??
And then came up her T-shirt and her bra, while my friend had his dick out and warmed up by Ms 23. Ms 21’s breast was in a lovely caramel color, and I am not a Pastry chef for nothing so had to try this and the milk chocolate color nipples.
_4 more tequila please
After 20 more minutes of touching and fondling games and at the question:
_Do you wanna come up???
_Not now honey but we will come back later.
We left the bar at 18h00 and catch a tuk tuk direction Ratchadaphisek, let’s have a look at the MP. We left the taxi at 500m to the Emerald hotel as the road there was very busy, and then we proceed to have a look at all the MP on this side of the road, from Nadia to the Poseidon, all of them had a poor selection after an hour of opening ( the MP are opening at 18h00 the week day now, and 14h00 the week end), so since it was just for the pleasure of the eyes (I didn’t cry but was disappointed, never came in that area before, I hear so much from this forum than I was expecting at least some cuties, will come tomorrow to have a check again) we prefer go back to our hotel have a shower and prepare our self for the next stage.
20h30 Direction the Bed Supper club in Suk soi11 where we meet Mr. O at the bar and go direct in the restaurant for dinner, the place is amazing and very fashion, music very deep house in the restaurant, no table there, you eat on some large coach in the decadent roman style, worth a try.
22h30 We arrived to the Q bar down the same soi 11, it’s still not so busy, so landed on the left side of the bar, find Mr. O’s friend there chatting with a fine lady in leopard sexy dress, so let’s go crazy, we started by a bottle of Kamikaze and 5 glasses, soon followed by a 2nd bottle, I noticed than Ms Leopard look often at me ( the lightless gave her a 8+ in look but I am sure about her milky C+ cup), our drink intrigued 2 Japanese guys they wanna try: 2 more glasses please, soon follow by: another bottle please. During that time the place started to be filled by a lot of girls, Mr. O is pointing us the wilder one in bed, I slowly moved in direction of Ms Leopard and finally arrived on her side when the 4th bottle of Kamikaze arrived in front of us, I caught it quickly for serve every body, after a general “kempai” we dry our glass, want to smoke but offer one to Ms Leopard which telling me:
_I don’t like that, I prefer smoke and swallow something else.
I know all of you are going to be shocked but I decline politely, explaining her than I had been ambushed by a greedy tigress the previous evening and was still a little in fire down there, also already half drunk, she, of course, cannot retain herself to laugh, so invite her for a dinner on Monday, gave her my hotel card with my room number and my first name, I am still waiting for her phone call, hum hum.
Anyway at midnight, the bar had to close so we moved to the CM2, letting the Japanese guys half dead on their chairs, and then it was THE shock, all the place full of hunting ladies, we manage to find our way to the bar, the one close to the toilet, Mr. O quickly saw one of his previous conquest, my friend leave soon to have a closer look at all these asses waiting to be eaten, and me caught my cola and start to look around stopping on a beautiful pair of eyes looking at me, she is Ms Fong, half Chinese half Thai, 23 yo, sale in a shoes shop, in the CM2 6 days a week, look 8 and fresh with an A+ cup with pointing hard nipples and an incredible ass valorized by a tight orange trousers stopping really low on her hip and not shy at all. I invite her for a drink:
_2 B52 please.
_Oh that’s not strong.
_No problem, 2 cointreau basquet please.
_how you drink that??
_You flambé the alcohol then put your hand on the glass, shake it, open slowly breathe the vapor by the mouth, drink straight and breathe by the nose the relief of vapor.
_HOLY SHIT that is strong.
Then she come on me starting to dance, open the low part of her light black shirt and did a knot enter her breast and the belly button always looking me in the eyes, then turn around to show me her tattoo just up the birth of her buttocks part, moving slowly until she reach the hardest part of myself, which made her smile.
I bought her 2 other drinks but stayed with my cola.
02h00 closing time at the CM2, I asked Ms Fong if she want to come to my place:
_Yes of course
_How much is going to cost me??
_Up to you
_Are you sure you want to play that with me?? For ST??
_Yes up to you
_Ok la all will depend on the performance
Off the disco I catch my friend with sweet lady and we take 2 tuk tuk for a run in the BKK street to our hotel, during the run Ms Fong started to tell me than she usually get 3000 bath for short time etc etc etc, I just told her than for that price she will stay with me LT until the next evening, which pissed her a little off, so here she finally asked:
_How much you want to give??
_So it’s not up to me anymore?? I am starting at 1000 bath and 1500 if you are as good as I think.
_No cannot is not enough at least 2500 will be nice, I was cool with you etc etc etc
_Ok la Ok la
So she is happy and stop to break my balls, we arrived soon after at the hotel entrance, I get out give 100 bath to Ms Fong and told her to go home, I prefer go to sleep as I am tired, bye bye and see you.
Like we say: It’s better to be alone than badly accompanied.
End of day 2
Edgar Smythe
09-29-03, 16:28
I've been in BKK for 5 days now. Here's a report on what I've found.
Sex stuff is below the general info.
- This is a CITY. It's big, full of tall buildings and malls and has a train system that goes many but not all places you want to go. Unfortunately, the trains stop at around 11:30pm.
- Taxi drivers don't speak English, can't read maps, and don't understand you when you ask them to go places quite often. Get a map called "Nancy Chandler's Map of Bangkok", which has a helpful taxi card with popular destinations printed in English and Thai, as well as helpful phrases ("Stop Here!"). The map also has loads of great info.
- BKK is CRAWLING with transsexuals. No, really, in most bars you see from 20% to 50% ladyboys. I have a practiced eye for them, having grown up in NYC and SF, but they seemed to be fooling loads of customers. Remember: the one guaranteed way to check is by putting a finger in and feeling for the cervix. If there's no cervix, it ain't a real girl.
- The ladyboy situation is so pronounced that even in the VIP massage club on the 6th floor of Plaza Entertainment, which costs 4700 baht for 2 hours (max), about 1/3 were ladyboys. (I selected the one girl who was not flirty and made up. She turned out to be a 19 year old who had just started 5 days earlier, fantastic body but a little shy and definitely inexperienced).
- Massage parlors are much more expensive but not necessarily any better than freelancers or bar girls. If you pick wisely at Thermae etc. you can get a great, young, enthusiastic girl for about 1100 baht ($28), but I always tip at least 400 or so, which would make it $38. That place is also full of ladyboys btw.
- Bar girls are fine again if you pick wisely. You have to pay a barfine of around 500-600 baht ($12-15) to take them out of the place, then the standard price seems to be 1500 baht. They treat the whole thing as a social situation, and will like it if you take them for a drink or some food before going back to a hotel. They seem to do only one customer a night, typically. That's a far cry from the high volume usually seen elsewhere.
- Hotels can give you trouble and charge more for bringing girls in. Mine wants to add 600 baht per night ($15), but they relented when I said that "my friend is just coming up for a drink". They did make her leave her ID card, which could be a nice safety measure. But I haven't felt threatened at all. The girls I've gotten have all been sweeties.
- So it's probably not a bad idea to take the girl to a short-time hotel. The girls know where they are (usually on the Soi's (sidestreets)). Price seems to be about 300 baht ($7.50) for an hour or two. The room provided was clean, had fresh sheets and towels, and was air conditioned. Thais seem to use these as love hotels, because the place was set up for a car to drive into a space in front of the room, then pull a curtain around so the car is hidden.
- Treat the girls well. The girls I've picked here are genuine and nice. Last night I was at Carnival bar in Nana Plaza at closing, and a tiny 20 year old girl decided she liked me for some reason (I have no idea why, unless it was that she was reacting to the pheromone cologne I was wearing -- http://www.pherone.com/v5.html).
She and her friends (other bar girls) were going to an after-hours karaoke place, and she invited me to come. This was obviously unusual since her friends seemed taken aback, and so did the staff of the karaoke place. I was the only non-Thai there.
This girl fed me with a spoon, sniffed me, acted sweeter than anything, and then went back to my hotel and we had amazing sex. Afterwards, we tried to sleep but she complained she couldn't sleep and decided to leave. She never asked me for any money at all, and I wasn't sure if it would offend her to give some, but finally I decided that after all she is a working girl, so I gave her 2000 baht.
Anyway, she and these other girls are sweeties, so treat them well. I'm sure there are lots of nasty girls, but if you're careful you can get great ones.
Bar recommendations:
Thermae
Suk. soi 15 (which is opposite soi 12).
Nana Plaza:
Carnival
Day 4
1:00pm
Dragged lazy ass out of bed. Shook off cobwebs and cleaned up the room from having three ST guests the previous night... Headed for Skytrain and to get some work done.
6:00pm
Full day of work completed (ok, I got a late start) I am heading out of the downtown area and note a Traditional Massage place. Just the thing, so I go for an hour. Don't remember the place or the address, but it fixed the aches and pains accumulated from lack of sleep and the occasional romp. She tried to get me to go for two hours, but I was looking forward to a wonderful evening. Paid my 200B and left, feeling younger.
7:30pm
Walking to my internet cafe, I usually go past Sport Bar. Well I was attacked by SportBarGirl1 and another super cute girl who I will nickname "SportBarCutie." I enjoyed the cold washcloth treatment and the attentions of these two beautiful girls. I had an agenda, so I excused myself to the internet cafe and I promised I would buy a drink when I came out.
8:45pm
Checked email at regular place... I was making plans to check out Soi Cowboy. I got a timely email from either ToeTapper or KarmaSX suggesting I try Eden Club. I had hesitated about that since I was not sure I was going to be up to the experience, but I was now armed with Vitamin V and decided the email was good Karma for the experience. My only problem was that SportBarGirl1 was lurking outside. When I came out SportBarCutie was with a guy and so I sat with SportBarGirl1. She wanted to go ST, but I was not really in the mood for her. I had my drink and one for her and pulled my wallet to pay. She adroitly homed in on a US$20 bill and had it in her mits. I asked for it back and she was not going for that. I even tried chasing it to her bra, but she would not return it. I'm pissed, but I decide if she wants a fucking $20, she is going to have to work for it. I negotiated the $20 + 200B for ST, paid her BF and left, blowing a kiss and wink to SportBarCutie as I left.
9:30pm
I decided I was going to enjoy this fuck so I didn't let her know how pissed I was about the kidnapping of one of our finest Presidents. As it turns out, she was much less of a starfish this time, probably since it was our third round. I really did enjoy the fuck. 9-looks 8-sex 8-attitude 7-overall (due to kidnapping). I let the kidnapped president and two more 100B pictures of the King with her, and she was on her way. I freshened up and headed out for a snack to allow the Vitamin V to kick in and for Little LoveLOS to recover from the previous romp.
11:00pm
Entered Eden club and met Marc. He is no different in person than in email. Simple menu, simple program, unlimited possibilities. I had a reasonable selection of ladies, many of whom he ushered in for the lineup. I looked around and there were a number of pretty good looking ladies and a few that were just average. Nothing there was anything I would not have been able to fuck... I finally chose "EdenBabe1" (calls herself Peow) from the left side, who wiggled over and gave me a kiss. I asked her to choose a friend and she chose "EdenBabe2" (calls herself Apple) and was standing just right of the line. EdenBabe1 was 29y.o. well built, and quite attractive, she did smoke (cigarettes) and had a few tats. EdenBabe2 was about 22, a little skinnier, and also quite well built. She is a maniac, and so I loved the choice.
11:15pm
In the hotel next door, after being socially incorrect in the lobby (public groping), we are at the room and I am watching the equipment come out on the bed. A six pack of raincoats was high on my approval list, but I was not so excited about some of the other toys--or the prospect of one of them ending up my arse... Not to worry, the girls will respect your limits... Anyway, EdenBabe2 invites me to join her in the shower where I enjoy a great lathering and washdown. EdenBabe2 knocks for the shower and I get out while they play with each other. EdenBabe1 comes out an we retire to the bed and began exploring each other's bodies. The first round consisted of my receiving serious and concentrated BBBJ from both ladies while administering DATY as the pussy of the moment presented itself. I finally unloaded into EdenBabe2's mouth. She swallowed it all and lapped up the rest.
We lounged around for a while, chatting, and the girls wanted to get going again, so they started by using the toys on each other-not me. This got Little LoveLOS back on duty and I had a good fuck with EdenBabe1 before collapsing in exhaustion without completing. EdenBabe2 managed to get a finger up my arse, which kept me pounding EdenBabe1 quite hard. The girls were a determined pair, and little LoveLOS spent the next 45 minutes in somebodies mouth or ****. I think honors go to EdenBabe2 for managing the oral combination that brought him home, again into her mouth. EdenBabe1 hit the shower as I was fondling EdenBabe2 until our turn. I got cleaned up and EdenBabe2 managed to use half the hot water in Bangkok. EdenBabe1 8-looks 9-sex 9-attitude 9-overall EdenBabe2 7-looks 9-sex 10-attitude 9-overall 4000B total cost included an extra 100B thank you for the girls.
Eden Club is a definite recommend to those wanting an experience that is difficult to find anywhere.
1:00am
I gave up on getting to the Cowboy in time. I am thinking that this day I have had sex with a girl I'm pissed at, had sex with two wild things, but they were still all pro; the only thing I lack is a GFE... Time to see if I can find TheGirl. I headed straight to the internet cafe. I was again accosted by SportBarGirl1 and SportBarCutie, but I extricated myself by taking refuge in the internet cafe. I checked my email and was about to start a trip report, and TheGirl kisses my cheek. "Waiting for me?" "Yes." I reply. "Ready to go?" "As soon as you are finished with your internet stuff." I replied (hoping not to have to walk out of the cafe with SportBarGirl1 and SportBarCutie watching me with TheGirl). "OK, lets go now." "OK" Who am I to keep a horny lady at bay?
Out of the cafe arm in arm, past Sport Bar. SportBarGirl1 is glaring. SportBarCutie is laughing. The difference in attitude is noted. Thus begins my reputation as a butterfly. The fact I flapped my wings when SportBarGirl1 shook her finger at me probably didn't help.
1:30am
I am in heaven, located in this case in my hotel. The needed GFE is in my arms, we are really connecting and nobody is acting like this is paid sex. Starting to feel a special place for this girl, so I know I need to guard my heart or become a Stickman statistic... Yes Nokna, I did learn a few things from our chats... Just not how to avoid a butterfly rap... but that is for another day. This was supposed to be my last overnight in Bangkok. TheGirl made it perfect. 9-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall.
More reports coming... Thanks for the Backchannel compliments. Please dont ask for TheGirl's pic if you have not met me IRL.
LoveLOS
Picture of SportBarGirl1
GettingTang
09-29-03, 21:27
Reporting from Manilla
Decided to extend my vacation by a week and hop a flight to the Philippines. I'm in Manilla for 24 hours and then on down to Cebu.
Coming back from Pattaya I spent a night in Bangkok. Stayed at the apartment style rooms they have inside the Bumrungrad hospital as recommended by a friend in Pattaya. These are very nice, huge comfortable rooms, priced very low. Within walking distance to the hospital itself and a small mall with internet cafe and several eateries. All enclosed campus style setting. I was impressed, except for one problem. They do not tolerate bringing back girls to the room. When I arrived back in Bangkok, I met the up with the young virgin "style" girl I wrote about earlier. We went out for dinner and dancing, had fun, bringing her back to my room, the guard (whom you cannot avoid) gave her an interview the CIA would envy! Kind of dampened the evening.
Only got one shot in while in Bangkok. Had hard-core sex with this little budding flower this time around. I literally, kindly ordered her to do things for me, she truly wanted to please me. F*ucked her in every conceivable position, stopping for repeated BJ's. She did not want to take my money, but wanted me to promise to "come back for her". I gave her a watch I had purchased in Pattaya and promised to keep in touch. Slipped 1000 bt in her purse as she was leaving the next morning.
This trip to Thailand was among the best I have taken. Eden club was great, Marc indicated he was somewhat fearful of the crackdown, but still running his business as usual for the time being, mentioned he shut down his website and might change the frontal effort he puts forth on services. As it draws too much attention.
Freelancers in Pattaya are more then ever before since my first trips in 1995. Bangkok, biergardens, have slowed, or at least the quality has diminished some, but still too many to chose from by western standards. Gogo bars, are still the same as far as I can tell, but the quality around BKK is down, noticeably! Thermea closed on time the two nights I went there, strictly enforced, they took my bear, from my hand upon closing! Best freelancers at Thermea hang out around the entrance.
Pattaya, is the place to be, flooded with girls. Step outside your hotel anywhere in town and smile make eye contact and 5 minutes later you are likely to be humping in your room! The walking area and beach walk area had 40-80 girls to chose from as early as 10AM on this trip! Girls were also noticeably working the side streets, shopping areas, outside stores and hotels everywhere, farangs walking anywhere in Pattaya alone will undoubtedly be approached every 5 minutes! A marked dramatic improvement in quality and selection from Bangkok.
Despite rumors of us farangs overpaying, most any type or style girl you want can be readily had for under 1000 bt if your patient and shop the freelancer market. Traditionally freelancers were thought of as less then desirable or lower quality, not the case on this trip, many were better then bar girls and gogos!
Despite my extensive efforts to avoid stomach ailments, I still managed to puke once, and have diarrhea for three days from bad food, or water! Happens almost every trip. Bring pepto and a heavy dose of antibiotics from the US, chances are you will need it. You must remember, as bad as it sounds, many of the fresh produce coming from the farm fields is watered and or washed with sewage water, or water that maybe laced with organisms you don't want. Eat fresh salads or fruit in Thailand and you're likely to catch a bug.
Weather was too hot and sticky, but this is the norm for this part of the world, not much you can do about it.
Used an escort service from the web, once. Girls lists what they are and aren't willing to do. Much to my surprise, the girl I got was as advertised. Set me back 3000 BT for short term, but she was a beauty and swallowed my load! Driver actually brought the girl to my room and asked me if she was acceptable upon both entering and leaving, said he guarantees the girls and service only asks that we recommend their service to another! It was great, but then again I paid for it.
Shopping, was the same, even more competition and better bargains then ever before in the open market and street vendors.
Shopping malls are much improved and the new mall is very westernized. Looks like something right out of the US with full food courts, inflated priced and gouchie shopping galore. An easy place to hit up on non working girls if you're not too shy and or too ugly! Girls and dates can easily be had at any of the Farang style malls. I did this twice, got sex from one girl, the other was lunch and coffee only, because she was a nice girl!
Overall a great trip. Planing to go back in late November, yet again! Will report of the findings in Cebu under the Cebu board! But mostly planning to just relax Island style, my rocks are dried up, and need to recoup. Manilla, is one hell of a big polluted city, taxi drivers are total scam artists. Good thing I'm only doing a day here, then off to Cebu.
GETTINGTANG~!
Jaimito Cartero
09-29-03, 22:05
Jah - I'm not sure if you read any of the forums before you started adventuring. It's always wise to find a girl friendly hotel, so you don't go through the rip off of paying 500 or 600 baht. Sometimes you just need to book a double room.
I personally did not find that many ladyboys in the places I visited. I didn't spot any in Bier Garten, and while I didn't make the rounds in Thermae, all the girls that came by my booth were female
Headhunter2000
09-30-03, 04:34
Soapies:
Some very pretty girls, but the whole thing is a little too cold and robotic for me. There are exceptions, of course, but many of the soapy girls I've been with seem to be on auto-pilot. They don't want to talk and just want to get the whole thing over with ASAP. As a general rule, the younger and prettier they are, the worse their performance is going to be. Not my style.
Freelancers:
I know the Thermae is something of an institution here, and it's mentioned in nearly every travel report, but I have to say, I've been there numerous times and have never seen anything I would pay to fuck. Ditto for the Grace Hotel. The beer gardens, pool halls, and discos are a little better. I never pay more than 1000 B at any of these places. Appearance and performance run the gamut so it's a bit of a crap shoot, but with a little luck, one can usually find something decent. But never forget that all of these girls, even the ones at the "upscale" discos, are all hard-core pros even if they appear otherwise. So for Christ's sake, don't be shy--do all negotiating up front. Don't fall for that "up to you" bullshit--it is the oldest hustle in the book. Unfortunately, I haven't yet figured out how to pick up college girls at the malls, so I am stuck with these jaded war-horses for the time being.
Bar Girls:
A little pricier than freelancers but at least you get to talk to the girls and see them (almost) naked before making your choice unlike the soapies. I usually pay 1000 B plus barfine although I will go to 1500+BF if I really like the girl. The soapy rule applies here as well: generally, the younger and cuter they are, the lousier they are in the sack. The key is to not get drunk and get seduced by the first girl who sits next to you. Remember, you are paying so you get to choose.
Street Walkers:
Two categories: 1) bar girls and freelancers looking to make extra money between 2-5am, and 2) those who street walk full-time. This second group is the lowest of the low, and best avoided altogether unless your budget is really tight. Picking up a bar girl after 2am means you save paying the barfine, but I am usually asleep by then and the better looking ones are gone by that hour anyway.
The Russians:
A breed of their own. I don't have any experience here. I know they can be found at the Soi 13 beer garden, around Nana, at Mike's Hotel, and at the CM2 disco. The ones at CM2 are a little better looking, but they are very hard-core and unfriendly. I have no idea what they charge. Frankly, I don't see the point unless you just have to have a "white" girl for some reason.
(Below is a pic of one of my better beer garden finds. Her name is 'Wan', she is 22 and has no babies. I paid her 1000 B and her performance was definitely above average with good BBBJ and covered fuck in all positions.)
Hey, just a short BRAVO! to all you recent posters who are providing detailed and specific reports. It's tremendously welcome, so thank you and keep it up!
Atlanta Monger
09-30-03, 07:42
Man, simply GREAT reports. LoveLOS, you simply crack me up every day. Flapping wings - LOL!
Please keep up the good work, gents.
Anybody got contact info for Marc since the website was taken down? I need to make a reservation for my late December trip. I plan to spend 4-5 days in BKK before heading down to Pattaya for a week or so, and don't want to miss Eden.
Thanks,
MM
day 5
8:30am
i awoke and thegirl was laying there. wow. silky soft smooth brown skin and jet black hair. a real thai beauty. how the fuck am i going to leave paradise in 18 short hours? i fall asleep again with her in my arms.
several repeats of this occur over the next few hours, but we are unable to wake up.
12:30pm
we both finally get awake and engage in another fabulous session. 9-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall.
2:00pm
i actually have a lot to do today, so i reluctantly bid her farewell and send her home. get on bts and walk thru patpong. naturally everything is closed, but being at the place my love for the thai sex scene was born gave me a good nostalgic feeling... on the way to my first stop, i spot a travel agent. the agent is kind enough to help me find kal office, and i take a taxi to the narai, across from the office. i am informed my tickets can be changed, no charge, no problem...
10:00pm
finished my work and back at internet cafe, i inform everybody work is not done and i am staying two more days. lots of complaints, oh well. thegirl walks in and comes over to me. "i thought you went to the airport by now." "i changed my flight, i have two more days." :d big hug. no discussion, we just went back to the hotel... of course, we walked right past sport bar again... oh well. 9-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall
11:45pm
thegirl is blowing my fff (find, fuck, forget) rules all to hell, not to mention my poor little mind. i realize i should get some space and some other fine pussy or this poor monger is going to become a stickman story... i walked her back to thermae, and she introduces me to a few of her friends. one of them is the cute one that was also working the chat lines the night i met her. damn she is beautiful, but i will have to ask permission before i take her best friend. she asks me what i want to do, so i told her i wanted to check our soi cowboy since i had not been there yet. i asked if she wanted to come, but she said "no, go find an nice girl there." i said, "ok, i'll see you later unless you got lt with somebody..." she said she would see me later. 2 breezers.
i was a bit naive i guess, but when she told me to fuck somebody else, i thought she was ok with it... sorry nokna, i should have known better.
12:45am
soi cowboy. i am wandering around looking a familiar and unfamiliar bar names. i hooked up with a couple of old guys (aussies i think) and we walked into a bar i had not heard about. jungle bar i think. had vines and shit all over the place. the three of us walked in and were immediately mobbed. attempted [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) i think. the old guys each had three girls and my group varied from three to five. within minutes the old guys were wearing bikini tops on their heads, and of course there were a couple of girls that lacked the same... it was a party and i managed a two or three breezers and did pop for three ladies drinks (sorry twd, the flesh is weak). the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) continued for a while until i decided none of these girls was bed material, so i paid and left.
1:45am
headed straight for long gun to find the promised stunner for the evening. what a fucking waste. one breezer and i was not approached by any girls and had not located anything i wanted. am i spoiled? no. long gun is closing so i vamoose.
2:00am
most of the bars are closed, except midnight bar is still open. i go in, night vision goggles on full **** alert. i always have nana parking lot to fall back on, but i'd really like to find a nice bar girl on the cowboy. i locked eyes with "midnightpetite" (calls herself dam). she was a petite little thing, which is one of the things that i like in thai girls. another breezer. i was trying to get her to meet me outside, but she was afraid the mamasan would catch her. we bantered back and forth and they decided upon a man-trap that would work, even if it probably broke some curfew ordinances. they opened the second floor bar and the third floor bedrooms at no extra charge if i paid the barfine. i rationalized that was a st room for 500b since the barfine is bullshit after closing time... wtf, this girl was ready and so was i, why go all the way back to soi 13?
there are two rooms upstairs, and apparently no showers. we got a room and the other was occupied also. hmmmm. ok. remember this team... midnightpetite is a 25y.o. tiny girl... tiny tits, about a 22" (55cm) waist and a pussy so tight that little lovelos actually hurt a little bit after the deed. a new record for tight... as my usual with tiny girls i coaxed her to cowgirl so she could control the entry. cowgirl on soi cowboy was fine... 7-looks 8-sex 9-attitude 8-overall 1000b girl + 500 bf/room + 200 drinks.
3:00am
walking home, i met a beautiful freelancer (probably a soi cowboy girl) at the eating spot at asoke plaza corner. i was feeling the effects midnightpetite and 7 bacardi breezers so i stupidly did not take her home to bed. but that is 20/20 hindsight.
4:00am
i did manage to get back to the internet cafe. thegirl was there as promised, and so was her friend. she asked me if i had a good time. "yes, it was fun" "did you meet nice girl" "yea, a real nice girl" "good for you" ... she kept playing the chat thing... damn, i'm getting sleepy, when the hell is she finished? i start flirting with best friend. she is on webcam and so she didn't want me in the picture... ok... finally thegirl tells me i had too much to drink and i need to go to bed. kisses me goodnight and send me on my way.... i tell her i want to take her lt tomorrow and she is ok with it.
did i just fuck up? i think so now, but it never occurred to me at that time... i vow not to get drunk again.
from heaven on earth to sleeping alone... damn what have i done? i vow tomorrow will be a better day.
lovelos
gee, that was post #300. am i a senior member yet? -lol
Jaimito Cartero
09-30-03, 11:41
Well you never know with women. I think that if you stayed longer mainly to be with her, then you should have just stayed with her. Guys always think there's a better one out there (and there usually is, but to find it?), but usually let the small head do most of the important thinking.
Good luck, anyway, and nice report as always.
(Below is a pic of one of my better beer garden finds. Her name is 'Wan', she is 22 and has no babies. I paid her 1000 B and her performance was definitely above average with good BBBJ and covered fuck in all positions.)
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Hi there Headhunter2000,
Do you have a number to wan?
Mr Z
MrGhostRider
09-30-03, 18:00
GettingTang> would you mind telling me which website escort service you used? if you want to contact me directly please email to:
agoodfellahk@yahoo.com
thanks
JC
I stayed longer to be with her and some unfinished conquests... I had no illusions that if I took her full time for the entire two days that my big head would no longer be in control, which is not something I am willing to risk at this point in my life!
Next report will clarify my motivations a bit more.
Day 6
1:00pm
I sleep it all off and feel good. Assessing the situation with a clear mind, I figure TheGirl wants some space and I feel I need some also... Not to mention, MyTemptation, whom I have not seen again, but provided the only sex that really compared to TheGirl. Got a call from a regular girl I chatted with on the internet. I thought she had blown me off, but she said she had been ill. We made an appointment for 1:00pm the next day, for lunch.
2:00pm
Went down to internet cafe to check for problems back home. OK, none.. Out and I am at Sport Bar. There is SportBarCutie, but SportBarGirl1 is not there. She takes care of me with the cool towel and I order a Breezer and a lady drink. We played a few games of connect 4 and I actually won a few. Finally she said that if she wins 10 games, I would have to take her ST. I threw two games in a row. She finally asked why I'm not trying to win anymore... I told her I have to lose so she will go with me ST... Oh the delighted look I got when she realized I wanted her... She asked what about SportBarGirl1 and I told her I am angry with her, she is pushy for money. She told me she was OK with going, but not to tell... No problem here. BF paid and we are skipping out of there.
3:00pm
Back at the hotel, she was pure pleasure. Our relationship had been developing over a few days, and the fact this was like forbidden sex made it all the more fun for both of us... Some DATY and DFK added to the two-position deed. 8-looks 10-sex 9-attitude 9-overall. 1000B Girl +500B BF+300 Drinks.
4:30pm
I am back on the skytrain to meet a client for dinner.
10:00pm
NEP. I have only one target, MyTemptation, and beeline straight to Temptations Bar. Hot shit, she is dancing. When she sees me, that ended that. We set down to some great bar fun. She was supposed to dance again in a few songs so I barfined her so she would not have to dance. By this time I discovered a great substitute for ladies drinks. Cash. Hell it works at strip bars in the land of no sex, why not try it at a Thailand Go-go... I basically did two rounds of 20B in the panties for three dancers and, of course 50-100B for MyTemptation, just so she had a one-up on the other girls to save face... She had a blast watching her girlfriends try to seduce me. I was having fun, they even put me on the door to tout guys into the bar... Hell, there were three very fine ladies that were hot and really needed barfineing... I was offered a second, but MyTemptation was all I wanted...
10:30pm
A shower and MyTemptation was in my arms again... This chick is just a load of fun... We did not have the "relationship" from actually getting to know her, but we did manage to click sexually -bigtime. I really enjoyed the BBBJ & DATY and she was a thrashing pup... Now, I had brought what I thought were enough USA made Torjans. Since she was doing such nice oral, I gave her one of my Thai made strawberry things for the action. Well the action inside her was great, but upon completion, we discovered that the raincoat had broken. We were bareback. Nothing to do but clean up well and hope for the best. She did not seem to have a problem with the fact that I had just dumped my load inside her. 8-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall.
11:30pm
I was torn. MyTemptation was truly beautiful and the sex was incredible. I wanted another round but I had committed to LT with TheGirl... I asked if she wanted something to eat. "Yes!" AH, the one thing you can usually count on with a Thai girl... Hunger. We walked up Suk and I snuck past Sport Bar. She asked about Thermae and I knew they had food. So somebody needs to slap me... What the fuck was I thinking? Quick scope and TheGirl was not there. OK, we get a table in the corner and order. If you like your food spicy, this place rocks. Order the Shrimp salad... I really enjoyed it and so did MyTemptation.
Unfortunately the inevitable happened. TheGirl came in and noticed us... Shit, I better go see her. Invited her to join us but she wasn't hungry... shit. She asks about MyTemptation, and I tell her I met her at NANA and we wanted some food. Naturally I didn't mention she is already the first runner up in my diary, or that I was planning a second round real soon now... That much she figured out... I told her I'd meet her at the internet cafe when Thermae closed. "OK."
Was I OK? Only time would tell...
12:00am
We are back at the hotel for a second round... The guard a the door really raised his eyebrows when I brought the same one back... A thumbs up and a knowing nod followed her onto the elevator... One of my cherished images that is hopefully burned indelibly into my memory is that of her thrashing wildly on Cowgirl, hair flying...
8-looks 10-sex 10-attitude 10-overall, again... WOW.
1:00am
I reluctantly put MyTemptation in a taxi back to Nana, but I had made a promise. This really was my last night in paradise, so I wanted to spend it with TheGirl... I realized after I left LOS that I don't have MyTemptation's email address and that she is a woman I want to see on my next trip. Also, there is that remotely small possibility that she could become the mother of my child, so SHIT, can anybody help a monger? Contact me Backchannel please!
1:15am
Back at internet cafe. TheGirl is not there yet; Thermae not closed. SportBarGirl1 is not there, but SportBarCutie was there. I sat with her. Actually, I took her away from an guy who was playing connect 4 with her, but he just said "It's OK." It seems some girl from another bar had immediately told SportBarGirl1 of me and SportBarCutie's tryst, and so she had gone to a different bar to work... Oh Shit... But SportBarCutie was OK with it and not upset her "friend" was pissed at her. I was feeling good about it since SportBarCutie knew I was a butterfly and really didn't give a shit. I had the little piece of revenge I wanted for treating me badly, but I knew I had to speak to SportBarGirl1 before I left... I explained to SportBarCutie that I had made arrangements to meet my regular girl tonight, or I would love to see her again. "Yes, I see you leave with many beautiful women each night, you naughty butterfly [laughs]" We agreed she would come to the bar and meet me at 1pm tomorrow, before SportBarGirl1 comes to work... Careful readers will realize I just fucked up.
1:50am
I decide it is prudent not to be sitting with SportBarCutie when TheGirl returns, so I return her to the guy she was sitting with before I came, and I apologized for "borrowing" his girl. "No problem, happens all the time." "Thanks, BTW, you need to barfine this girl, she is incredible in the sack." I figure I had done my part for her income...
I check internet cafe and TheGirl comes in shortly thereafter. She pretends she is busy there for a while... Her best friend is with her, but any thoughts of asking about her are now flushed, both because I can feel the chill so I know all is not well on Soi 13... She tells me to wait here for her, she'll be back... "OK" Well, an hour passes and I am getting a bit worried. I went out for some food. The bars are closed but SportBarCutie is sitting there with the mamasan and another girl eating. I sit with her and she offers me some food. It seems the guy never barfined her. Dumb shit.
3:00am
TheGirl returns. I say goodnight to SportBarCutie and return to the cafe. She logs on and so do I. I pretend to do email for the forthieth time but I'm just killing time. We talk but she is cool. Finally I guess she made up her mind. She had logged off and paid, and said "Good night dear, have a happy life." then turned and walked out. Realizing the girl of my dreams just left me, I tried to pay. Didn't have change. I threw 100B on the desk and left. to my relief, she was waiting for me at the end of the Soi. "Why are you mad at me?" (dumb question, but I was grasping at straws here). "It your life, do what make you happy. Go back America, have a good life." Shit Shit Shit... Think fast. "I told you I wanted to be with you tonight,. that would make me happy. Please come with me." (LoveLOS in grovel mode. Nokna, I'm sure you are ashamed of me... I am so embarrassed, but a field report is the good bad and the ugly... this is ugly!) But she finally said "OK" and the crisis had passed.
3:30am
The lovemaking was good, but not quite what it could have been. 9-looks 8-sex 8-attitude 8-overall. I know some serious pillow talk is in order, and we do talk for a long time. She shows me a picture of her boyfriend. (OK Slap intended, but I did not get jealous, was that bad?) I had expected there was a main boyfriend, which was why she did not take the possessive approach with me, and gave me the leash I needed to hang myself... XSailor correctly guessed the status and what was on her mind, but I did not have the benefit of his wisdom on that bed that night... She asked me what made farang men tick and why they are afraid to commit. I told her. She seemed to understand. When sleep overtook us I felt as if I had my friend back, but I also felt she would not seek me for her saviour from Thailand. I cannot tell you the relief when I felt knowing I could just enjoy her body without the entanglements.
All in all, a fabulous day, a great ending. A new conquest, SportBarCutie, whom I had been looking at for a week; another great time with MyTemptation; and bringing my relationship with TheGirl to a salvagable place. In retrospect, these are the three women that still haunt my mind after two weeks in back farangland, so this may have been the landmark day...
LoveLOS
Another nice report LoveLOS, thanks. Pretty tough to juggle a bunch of TGs in close proximity without incident, and it sounds as though you managed to do it without damage.
I'm curious -- I know there was an earthquake in Myanmar last week and that tremors supposedly reached Bangkok. Any mongers there feel it, or was the earth already moving too much for all of you?
Just wondering if there is any drop off in activity during Christmas and New Years. Do the girls go home? If so when? I know they are Buddists, so they do not celebrate Christmas, but maybe the bars are closed for New Years. Anyone know? Thanks.
Christmas and New Years Eve are fun times in Thailand in general and Bangkok can be very interesting. Sometimes it can be a little slower in Bangkok over that time. So many Thai leave the city that the traffic level is much lower. To the Thais Christmas means very little but they get extra public holidays for the New Year, and this year they will make it into a long weekend. The Go Go Bars have been very busy in the past on New Years Eve and they have stayed open late on that night. But this year with the crackdown they may not be able to stay open until 6:00am like in the past.
Pattaya and Phuket are always packed with people over the holidays but Bangkok is a little slower. That said Thailand is a great place to be over the holidays.
Thai PM to send daughter to work at......
By Reuters, 10/1/2003
BANGKOK -- Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said he will send his daughter to work part-time at a McDonald's next to her high school to set an example for teenagers.
"It is pathetic to learn from news reports that a 13-year-old girl had to sell her body to make money for nightclubbing," Thaksin told a seminar on tackling poverty and social evils, citing an example of teenagers taking the easy way out. "I've talked to the owner of McDonald's about allowing teenagers to work part-time at his restaurants and he's keen on that. So I will be sending my daughter to work at the store next to her school after the university entrance examination."
Thaksin, one of Thailand's richest men, said he wanted to set a constructive example to encourage good social values and for Thai teenagers to take pride in earning their own money honestly.
Thaksin's daughter was not immediately available for comment.
So glad he chose a solid indigenous example of being enterprising like Mickey D's. At least the low wages seem very Thai.
Do we know if Taksin's daughter has big boobs ? In which MacDo is she going to work ?
Day 7
12:00noon
Awoke late again, the morning session was more relaxed, with the tensions of the night before abated. But it wasn't quite up to her normal standard. 9-looks 9-sex 9-attitude 9-overall. We talked some more and she reveals she is engaged, but she doesn't really want to leave Thailand. She wants a farang husband here. I I keep telling her what she told me. "you decide what will make you happy, if you can be happy as his wife in (farangland - country deleted to protect her privacy), then marry him, if not, then make him come here to live and and find another... OOOPS, now she gets the read I am trying to talk her out of marraige (Hell, that is my honest advice I would give any friend) But I think she believes I am still too smitten with her to be OK ... Actually it has taken a week or more (since returning home) for me to convince her I am happy to be a preferred customer, money for sex and hopefully a good friend, but not a candidate for husband of the year... We part with a hug but it may be the last time I will ever see her. Who knows?
1:00pm
I meet the regular girl I had met in a chat... ( I realized too late that I had made the appointment with SportBarCutie for this same time, but I stood a chance at meeting SportBarCutie again, and no chance if I stood up a regular girl...) She is 23y.o. and really sweet and shy. We talked about going shopping or to a Wat, as she really wanted to take me around. She asked what I had planned for the afternoon, and I told her I had to go back to the hotel and pack. She started to offer to help me pack, and little LoveLOS came to immediate attention! Then I think she figured that was too forward and her upbringing kicked in... We parted after a long lunch, agreeing to stay in touch... After a few weeks of emails, I now realize had I been able to spend a few days with her, we would have had a pretty intense night in there somewhere.... But walking away from that one, with me fully in the husband cross hairs, is a bit more difficult.
3:00pm
Arrive Sport Bar hoping SportBarGirl1 is still on strike. No such luck. SportBarCutie is not there. SportBarGirl1 alternates from mad, to sweet, to lets go ST, to I want your money to bad butterfly... I finally decide I cannot stand her anymore. I ask the bar mamasan to tell SportBarCutie that I was sorry I missed her and would not be able to come back, but please email me, and then I leave. I went to another bar on the block and start playing connect 4 with a good looking girl named Pim. She is beating me soundly until a ladyboy starts helping me... The guy was good, but I was getting nervous being around him, so I offered to barfine Pim. She was either telling the truth or on her period. She told me she didn't boom-boom with farang because she was too small. When she offered the ladyboy in her place, I left the area...
3:45pm
I arrive at Beergarden Soi 7 and the place is full of opportunity. Not a lot of really good looking girls, but as I was trolling thru the place, and noticed hot little girl that had braided about 100 braids all the way to her ass. The cool part was she noticed me and grabbed me as I passed... I'll call her BeerGardenBabe (calls hersef Yo). I sat and ordered a coke. I had a meeting to go to, so we got quickly to negotiations. Now don't get on me for paying too much here. This was probably the best looking girl in BGS7 at the time, and I was short on time to shop around. We agreed on 1500B ST.
4:00pm
BeerGardenBabe was in the 20-22y.o range, thin but with a great rack for the body type. We did the usual shower thing and had a nice session that included BBBJ and DATY before a good finish. 9-looks 9-sex 8-attitude 9-overall. I figured this was my last opportunity as I was to meet clients who were to take me to the airport.
5:00pm
I meet briefly with clients then return to hotel for packing.
9:00pm
Clients call to inform me they are having car trouble and would have to come by taxi... I gracefully decline their offer and advise them I could make it to the airport via taxi without their kindness... I grab my bags and get a taxi, but ask for a quick stop at Soi 13...
9:15pm
SportBarCutie is there and SportBarGirl1 is gone. Phew. I apologize for not showing for our date... She is doing the same, apparently she had a hangover and no-showed me as well... I asked if she wanted to go to the airport with me. Wild thing agreed and I barfined her with the taxi waiting. She knew I wanted to fondle her for a half hour, but she had no clue what I had in mind. She told the same stupid moron she had been sitting with for the past two days that she'd be back in an hour... He said fine. I again said sorry mate, and he again said "Happens all the time." Dumb fuck, 500B and she is yours for the night... We get in taxi and she informs me she would rather barfine to the hotel for boom-boom than to the airport to say goodbye.
10:00pm
During the long, ride where we actually got to know each other better, I laid out my plan. I would check my bags, then we would find a ST hotel and get some quality boom-boom time in before I had to depart the Kingdom. She thought I was absolutely insane, and she was definitely game. I was there early enough for easy checkin, and was out of the airport seeking lodging.
10:15pm
Having concocted this harebrained scheme on the fly, I didn't have a hotel plan, so we are starting to head for the Amari Airport Hotel... Halfway up the crosswalk, by the split to the rail station, a guy is hanging out in a blue uniform shirt/pants... He asked if we are booking the Amari. Now, either my plan was not unique and lots of couples do this, or the guy was exceptionally sharp. He spoke back and forth with SportBarCutie and she gave me the deal: 2000B gets us a ride to a nearby hotel, the room for a few hours, and the ride back. I told him if he could throw in a box of condoms, he had a deal... Now, my suspicion was the Amari was far more than 2000B, but please advise if I messed up here. He asked if I needed more girls, but I informed him SportBarCutie would meet all my needs.
10:30pm
At a 7-11 he goes in and returns with a box of 3 condoms. The same brand that failed me before, but what can I do? SportBarCutie says, "Only one." and I say "OK, not much time." Get to the hotel, quick cold shower and we are taking up where we left off. DATY BBBJ and more great sex, simul O (at least I think)...
We are chilling and The Vitamin V is doing it's magic. I finally tell her we don't have enough time and I don't think she can make me cum again, but I'd like to give her the pleasure... She went for it! Some more nice BBBJ to get little LoveLOS to full staff and she was on the pole riding like crazy... another vision in my memory. I couldn't believe it possible, but after 26 pops in 7 days, and her less than 15 minutes before, that little shit made it happen again. Wow, I think I just found a third girl I will remember and cherish until next time. I paid her 2000B, not that she asked for it, but because I felt this was special, and I wanted her to understand she was worth as much as the hotel...
I found the switch to turn on the hot water, so we showered quickly and dressed, found our driver who took us back... He wanted another 200B tip, but SportBarCutie wouldn't let me pay him more because she had negotiated the deal.
12:30am
She escorted me to emigration where I paid my 500B airport tax, and gave her the 500B change for the taxi... Again, she did not ask, but was grateful. I got a passionate goodbye kiss and, was that a tear in her eye? I left the Kingdom with a smile on my face...
Some will do the math for this last escapade and think me mad. Whatever. My alternative was to go back to the USA without having met my goal of shagging SportBarCutie again, and I would spend the same amount of money for one hour in an AMP in DC... Here I got three hours in the company of a beautiful woman who I grew to care for, and had over 90minutes of monkey sex with her too!!!
Thus ends 7 wonderful days. 15 women, most more beautiful than those available in the USA. 27pops, and three very special girls who I connected with a little bit deeper. I hope I can spend more time with those special ladies on my next trip to the LOS. If you hate my writing style, I have no doubt you have not read this far, but I hope you have enjoyed my monologue and I invite your comments and criticisms. I do feel I have much to learn of the Thailand scene.
Be well,
LoveLOS
PS I am still seeking a fellow monger to get an email address for SportBarCutie and MyTemptation. Please email me at dirt bag 667 at hotmail dot com if you are in Bangkok and willing to spend a few minutes of you time to look up either or both of these wonderful women and get an email address; and pass them mine...
Picture of BeerGardenBabe
Jaimito Cartero
10-02-03, 01:38
Nice detailed reports. You know you paid too much, but you wanted the last day to be memorable. It's only money, afterall. A memory lasts a lifetime (or until Alzheimers kicks in).
JC,
Spot on... the memories are priceless. I wonder if MasterCard would feature me in a commercial.
Lunch 50B
Drinks 200B
Barfine 500B
Short Term with sexy Thai girl ---Priceless
LoveLOS
Retired Sinner
10-02-03, 09:31
Yo LoveLOS,
BRAVO. I mean, I wish I could narrate and fuck as good as you. Damn, 27 pops to 15 women in 7 days. YEEEE HAAAAA! Is this a record here gentlemen? Any takers?
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Jaimito Cartero
10-02-03, 09:44
i was rather thinking that your mastercard would also make a good condom commerical.
"gee honey, how come your dick is oozing green stuff"?
next time, call trojan man!
i am, however a bit of a sick fuck, so most won't think it's too funny.
speaking of prices, i occassionally check up on other parts of the world (other than my main interests, cr, argentina and thailand) and am amazed at what guys shell out for crappy service.
"i paid 300 euros for the hour, and though she wouldn't kiss, or suck my dick, she was pretty good". i just shudder when i hear such things.
other than eden, my average per girl for st was 350 in pattaya, 750 lt. in bangkok 700 st. no lt, so no average there. this includes massage places like s. botan and bbbj bars like star of light and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). never over 1000 st.
and while it doesn't happen often, i did find myself falling for a girl this trip. while i quickly slapped myself, it's the 4th time this year that it's happened. once each in nicaragua, costa rica, argentina and thailand. i must be having too much fun.
I'm coming back to the Kingdom for 10 days of fun, Oct 31st thru 10th! Who is going to be around to have some fun for a night? Let's get a group to together for some fun!
We did this last year, Mid-December; there end up being seven of us and it was a great time! We start at the Living Room (R.I.P.) and then to Nana. Starting at the Living Room last year was great because we could talk a little without the B.G. on you and the music was lower.
We need to set a date? I would think the best would be Nov 1st (Saturday Night), Nov 7th (Friday Night) or Nov 8th (Saturday Night). These would best for the people that work in the Kingdom.
So I vote to start at the new place call Privilege No Hands restaurant, located on Sukhumvit Road, between Soi 2 and Soi 4. Privilege is over the new Blue Wave bar. This place is great for groups! You do not have to eat at this place, but you can get food. This place is more like a KTV, without the sing a long. If you have not been there, basically they have rooms that sit small groups of 2 to 4; to rooms that sit 20 plus, each room has it own sound system and private. If you want you can have one to as many girls from there staff in the room to service you or to put on a show. You must have one, but she can service the drinks! This would be a great place to bull shit and drink a little before the night gets started!
Who is up for it? The first case of beer is on me!
Please post here or e-mail me at jimhart69@hotmail.com, if you want to join us and also I am looking for input for what night and the place to start!
I hope to get a great group together again this year for a night of partying!
Mistapenus
10-03-03, 00:34
Taodan
Regarding the Reuters article ('...girl @ McDonalds...):
I believe women should earn their income either from prostitution or be supported by their husbands. This will ensure their humbleness and respect for men. They should not get a political voice in any case.
Elevating women socially and economically will quickly destroy thai traditional values, religion and morals. The Land of "one King, one People, one Country" will be no more but will rather become the land of the fat (like ours)
the land of the sick (like ours)
the land of the cripple (like ours)
the land of individuals biting each others throat (like ours)
If the Prime Minister does put his own daughter's benefit before that of the country's than maybe he is not the suitable guy for the job and should give the lead to someone else.
Mistapenus
10-03-03, 01:33
Jaimito Cartero
I also regularly check reports from other countries and it is often very scary. Here are a few excerpts from postings just to make us appreciate even more the scene in Thailand.
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Posted in other sections:
I had a very good BBBJ with CIM in the car, with a lot of grabbing possible on her copletely undressed tits and pantyhosed legs for EUR 40.
(Austria Jun.03)
I am also disappointed with the striptrease clubs. ....... you have to pay 10 pounds for the entrance, but you can really watch a non-stop striptease.
(London, Aug. 03)
Yesterday, I went to a girl called Alexandra........ It was a real rip-off. Very poor services. Massage just OK, but after it was a miserable f**k.
(Switzerland, Sept.03)
Minimum price for incall is about 1500 nok or $ 200. If you want it cheaper you have to go to the street walkers.
(Norway Jan.03)
Then went to a room for 70 Euros for half hour. Service was very friendly, but no kissing on mouth and no BBBJ, but allowed DATY.
(Berlin Jun.03)
While I was standing on the corner lots of sw approach me and propositioned me but I didn't feel like spending 60 dollars for a bj so I just hanged out.
(New york, Sep.03)
You're looking at, at least: $100 for a CBJ, $50 extra to take some clothes off and an extra $50-$100 for FS.
(Canada, Aug.03)
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Did this make you dead scared?
In my opinion this is where all the "free fucks" lead to. If you don't give them cash, you give them status and respect. You contribute to their social elevation and in effect driving prices up to the sky and service down to the floor, on the long term. 'Coz they are not a pro any more.
To all the guys who report of getting "free sex" in Thailand:
Please give them cash and don't destroy the scene (see above quotations for proof).
I do try to promote responsible, sustainable sex-tourism everywhere. I make it a point to handle over the cash rather ceremoniously. Meaning "you are a hooker and I pay you for fucking" - even if not saying it in words. They do not resent it.
Mistapenus
10-03-03, 02:49
Budgeting the Mistapenus way:
Others may have different ways of doing it and I give them credit for it but this is how one punter has done it for years and it has worked well. Apart from Thailand approximately the same figures would work for Cambodia and Indonesia as well.
I have to admit my limited financial resources but I believe that it is possible to have good fux for a reasonably low cost and spending a lot will not guarantee good fuck.
I think that budgeting and making plans is important to get the most value out of your cash as well as out of your time.
They say that " If you don't know where you are going, you will probably end up somewhere else".
It' also important to frequently check your position against your plan (ideally every day).
I usually spend between 1 to 3 months at a time in LOS. So, this plan will be for let's say 30 days.
Basically you will have four major expenses:
1.food + daytime booze
2.hotel
3.travel (long distance + taxi, local bus, etc)
4.fuck (including nighttime drinks)
5.other (miscellaneous such as airport tax, a shirt or two from the markets, etc)
This method implies that you spend an extended time in the country and also do some travel in cheaper regions on occasions to offset for the higher cost of tourist centres, such as Pattaya or Bangkok.
#1. food : from streetstalls anywhere in the country it's easy to get a meal between 20-50 baht. I usually have one large beer a day that helps an afternoon nap or good nights sleep. On average this group is 300 baht/day total. What I save from this in country regions I splurge out on a restaurant meal in Pattaya or Samui. In 30 days this will add up to 9000 baht.
#2.hotel: I budget 500 baht per day on average. For example a quite nice fan room in Lopburi or Sukhotai costs 160 baht and this saving allows for a pleasant seaview room in Pattaya for 900 baht. In Koh Samui you will get a reasonable room or bungalow in Lamai or even Chaweng (in low season) for 4-500 baht. 30 days by 500 baht is 15,000 baht.
#3.travel: I allow 100 baht for this per day. In a month it adds up to 3000 baht and that would allow you to travel from Bangkok to Samui by VIP24 bus for 750 baht including ferry, then on to Phuket then back to Bangkok by bus and train then a trip up to Phitsanulok, Sukhotai, Ayuthaya and a couple of trips between Bangkok and Pattaya.
I rarely have the need to use taxi and the local transport in Bangkok or Pattaya is real cheap. You only need to watch the cost of travelling in Samui by local bus which can be expensive, especially if they overcharge you. This account is 30 times 100 = 3000 baht.
Remember, if it's not enough you can always transfer from other (imaginary) accounts, such as #5, but this figure is quite realistic and should be sufficient.
#4.fuck:is a major expense, so it is even more important to do it wisely. To be honest, I don't get a lot of action back at home if simply because it is either expensive or involves a large amount of arse-licking for women which I feel somewhat degrading to do.(You might differ, I don't know). The most for me is one fuck per month or 12 fux a year. So if I get 10 good fux in one month in Thailand, that's really a treat. 10 fux per 30 days is one fuck per 3 days. In remote regions you won't get any anyway and in Pattaya you may get one each day so it balances out. Plus I usually realize savings from my "living expenses"account (#1 or #2) which means extra fux at the end of the trip. Actually, I manage around 20-21 fux in a month, approx one fuck per every 1.4 to 2 days on average, from savings on some 'cheap' fux or savings on living expenses. For each fuck I budget 2200 baht. 10 fux times it adds up to 22,000 baht total.
#5.other: miscallenous expenses. Usually, budgeting 100 baht per day for these is sufficient and would cover purchases not included in any of the other accounts (even some dental treatments on occasion. It's real cheap). For 30 days it's another 3000 baht.
Adding all these up:
#1 9000
#2 15000
#3 3000
#4 22000
#5 3000
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total: 52,000.- baht for 30 days
is 1,733.- baht per day (1 US$=41 baht approx)
This is your total cost for your one month trip, apart from your air-fare of course.
Which includes at least 10 fux (out of which 2 may be excellent, 6 good and 2 poor, but you always get that)
All these accounts #1-5 are imaginary of course and are actually in one pocket but on paper are handled separately and savings realized in one account can be easily transferred into another.
Budgeting for a fuck, this deserves it's own chapter:
B2200 per fuck adds up to 22000 baht for 10 fux and includes all the lady-drinks, your own consumption in bars (mine usually cola just to keep the head clear), bar-fines, girls'fees, and even 'short-time' rooms on occasion.
Of course I don't know in advance when a fuck will realize so I just divide this 22,000 baht per 30 days and 22000/30 comes to 733 baht per day for fucking, on average. One day when I maybe just spend 150 baht on a couple of drinks,playing 'coonect-four' at some bar I can transfer the saving of 583 baht to the next day. Some days I don't even have any expenses from this account, for example staying in locations where there are no farang bars or 'farang-friendly' hos to speak of.
According to the plan there will be 10 fux in 30 days which leaves another 20 days that I call "Drinking Day" or simply D-day. And those special 10 days I simply call "F-day" (that you can guess what it stands for.).
So a months plan may look like: DDFDDFDDFDDF.......DDF but of course this order is not fixed but flexible.
How I arrived at 2200 baht for a fuck? Of course it is only my idea but I have figured that if I want to get a go-go girl it would cost me:
B 600 barfine
B1000 'girl's fee' for ST
B 600 drinks for the night
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total: 2200 baht per fuck.
Now, while on the very first trip I exclusively shared the company of go-go beauties this is not the case any more and now I would often get a 500 bahter (+200 bar) from beer bars or even one from the beach for 500 baht or less. But on the other hand on some occasions I would spend substantially more on drinks than 600 baht.
Therefore I am quite easy about spreading out the total figure for 30 days.And while surely I will get some from the go-go for 2200 baht or more, most fux will cost considerably less. So, in effect normally I get the figure of about 1.4-2 days per fuck (or 0.7-0.5 fux per day) which is quite reasonable, I think. You also have to count for the days when you will only be drinking and looking. These days are no less important, as you have to actually put in a reasonable effort to find the most suitable talent for the next fuck. It won't just fall into your lap, even if you have the cash.
I call this system "Scientific Fucking" and it has worked quite well for me in maximising the fuck/buck ratio as well as the quality of the fux in general. Of course it's far from being the perfect system and I am still working on improvements. If there are any other "scientific fuckers" around, please let me know your comments on your best method.
It is really a simple system. All you need is a notebook with five columns in it. A sample page might look like this:
Account #2 HOTEL Daily Budget:500 Baht
******** Place ****** Available *****Spent ****** Balance
........ _____ ........... _______ .......... _____ .........._______
Day#1 *** C-Mai ******* 500 ********300 *******200
Day#2 ****C-Mai ****** 700 ******** 300******* 400
Day#3 ****P-nulok ******900 ********220 ******* 680
Day#4 ****Lopburi *****1180 ********160 *******1020
Day#5 ****Ayuthaya ****1520 ********200 ******1320
Day#6**** Bangkok*****1820 ********930 *******890
Day#7 **** Pattaya *****1390 ********750******* 640
Day#8 **** Pattaya*****1140*********750*******390
Day#9 **....."on bus"...****890********* 0******** 890
Day#10 ****Lamai ******1390********400********990
etc.....
etc.....
Day#28**** Pattaya***eg.1500********900******* 600
Day#29**** Pattaya******1100********900*******200
Day#30****Bangkok*******700********930******(-230)
It may finish with a slightly negative figure but it's no problem as usually I can transfer that amount from let's say account #5. In fact the figure can go at any stage into the negative as long as you have some prospect of recovering it in the black in the near future by realising some savings.
You might laugh at it but this method gives me a certain sense of control that is something like holding the steering wheel of a car in my hands. It goes where I want it to go and not where it wants to go (the trench for example). If you have ever driven a car then maybe you will appreciate it.
In fact when I go out at night I carry a small piece of paper and a pen in my pocket and discreetly record the expenses. Not exact figures but rather just strokes, as one drink usually costs around 100 baht if I have 10 strokes on the paper by the end of the night then I have spent approximately 1000 baht. Sometimes girls notice this and ask about it. I just say that I record how much I spend, and they seem to understand it.
Also by this method I am able to organise my finances in a way that allows me to have 3 or 4 months holiday a year which quite agrees with me. Was I going to blow the lot in let's say 2 weeks then I could stay at the Hilton and ring the bells in every bar. But I just spread it out, still living quite comfortably.
GettingTang
10-03-03, 03:35
Mistapenus
For those who don't already know, Mistapenus was an accountant in his last life. Now his accounting urges are showing through as in this life he is a fulltime monger!
Nice report though! However, I like most others tend to just "wing it" and go with our guts! A good rule of thumb for me is $2600 US for a good time in Thailand, this includes meals out, sex twice daily, taxi's travel about the country and an average amount of shopping for a month. Some trips I go way over, others I stay at or under. This you can quote me on, " I have never regreted spending one red cent in Thailand! NEVER!" It's truly a small price to pay for the memories you get!
MrGhostRider
10-03-03, 04:52
quick question:
are there any reliable Massage Places open during the day (i.e. 12pm-3 or 4pm?)
anyone got a name / loc?
thanks
Jaimito Cartero
10-03-03, 07:09
A "reliable" massage parlor? Sure, almost all of "normal" massage parlors are open during the day. Are you looking for just massage, HJ or FS?
I believe CP2 is open all day, I'm not sure about Annie's or Darlings (Soapy massage).
20th, day 3, from hard wake up to hard all the evening.
06h00 front desk call: _ good morning sir this is your wake up call.
_ i hate you!!!!
after launched “the curse of the peeled ass” on the poor guy, took a wave of strong aspirin, a cold shower, kicked my friend out of his bed and went for this “ maaaarvelous” trip to the damnoen saduak floating market, which i prefer don’t speak to much about.
13h00 back to the hotel, we made a quick reservation for the lumpini stadium on the evening, quick shower and quick change and direction ratchadaphisek for a massage.
14h10 we entered in nataree mp, nice selection of 50 girls in the fishbowl at the left of the entrance, 10 big boobs girls in front and 20 to 25 sideliners at the right.
just a few people are here already, but just sitting and drinking, so we start to have a look but directly remark one of the “big boobs” girl which is just arriving, the famous ms bee previously number 56, now number 33. 2 japanese guys are around looking the show of all the smiley girls, ms bee domed her chest and did a big stupid smiley, the guys was just not interested and left, as the papas an told me, for poseidon. big disappointment for ms bee which is not smiling and doming anymore, just looking the wall on her left, i think she just disgust me on this action. my friend choose her, and she agree because no other japanese at that moment, me i found a real sweet and nice looking girl in the current fishbowl, number 14, look 7+ and c cup only arrived in nataree 3 days ago and don’t speak to much english. the session was really nice, the girl very tight and responsive but no backdoor, for 1800 bath 2 hours + 100 bath papasan and 300 for the girl.
18h00 after a new shower, a new change of clothes we went to the lumpini stadium until 21h00, had ring side seats for 1500 bath, then went to eat to a place call “seafood palace”, about 300 meter from the stadium and serve a fair thai food. as we was speaking french with my friend, we caught the attention of 2 ladies behind us, one of them, ms shue shin, half chinese half thai (look 7, b+ cup and ass 10+), used to work for the french trade chamber in thailand and was speaking a little the language, her friend, ms theerada ( look 8, a+ cup), spoke only a fair english, but was not in the mood because of her japanese boyfriend whom had left her recently. i am going to pass the details on that story, after a good evening at narcissus disco on suk soi 23 (a lot of opportunity there and a great trance music), my friend finished at the ms theerada’s place for the night, i sweet chat with ms shue shin until 04h30, after a agreed to meet on the monday afternoon for walk in the city together and a long, deep french kiss we left for each other place.
end of day 3
ps: lovelos,
the special stop over forfait at the amari airport: 3 hours for 1680 bath.
Sooooory, forget to presise I attached the pic of Ms 14 at Nataree.
yoyo
Jaimito Cartero
10-03-03, 08:14
yo - curse of the peeled ass?
that's why i never took any of those "ungodly hour" tours. if i'm going to do something at 6am, it'd better be sleep.
MrGhostRider
10-03-03, 09:42
sorry for being vague about "reliable" MP, i went around to Posiedon, Copa, etc. yesterday and was told to come back around 6pm (where i had a "date" already set up)
so to be more precise:
are there any reliable "soapy massages" open during the day?
CP2? what and where is that again?
Darlings, i heard was a bit run down lately anyone confirm this?
thanks
agoodfella,
I don't think you are going to be able to find a MP ( other than a oily or traditionnal, but without sex) open in week day before 18h00 due to the pre APEC crackdown. You will find them open at 14h00 only Saturday and Sunday.
JC,
"the curse" in question is for make him have the ass of a baboon.
The tour was in fact an easy way to have a first look at this market, I will return there next year with a Thai chef of my compagnie to have a closer look at the "REAL " marquet this time ( with the fresh goods of the surrounding), not the cheaty touristic thing I saw, especialy made for that purpose and avoid the tourist to go in the smaller busy canal (the guide even told me than the market is not open before 08h30 and it was 12 years she was guide so knew better than me, after asking to my friend I can tell you than this market open at 05h00).
The early hour was not a problem for my friend and me, we are Baker chef and Pastry- baker chef, so use to wake up as early as 03h00.
this is a story from the baron. it real puts things on the table with what is going on in thailand right now with the up coming apex in bangkok and the clean the street up program being run by the governemnt to make bangkok look like a great clean city for the world to see.
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the asiabugle 1st. october 2003
scuttlebutt
even the hardest nosed, long-term ex-pat is wondering where this government's anti ex-pat stance is going to end. screwing up tourism does not seem to matter. conning his peers who are about to descend on bangkok does seem the most important thing to chairman taksin. i do not know who he thinks he is going to kid. does he not realise that visiting heads of state will all be talking to their ambassadors, and streets stripped of unsightly beggars, dogs and stalls etc. will fool no one. a police force with no anti-terrorist training and an immigration service that has made thailand's borders about as water tight as a colander are all facets of thailand that international security services have known about for years. no amount of late sticking plaster will cover up the problems.
on friday night one hundred, armed special-unit police were rounding up teenage flower sellers in the sukhumvit area. many beggars have already been swept up and sent back to cambodia, or wherever they came from. the current sick joke is ,how long will it take the beggars to crawl back from cambodia.? answer; a month if they have no legs!
patpong bars have been closed in the afternoon. nobody is quite sure why or on what basis? the best-informed guess is that praphan phumchao-suan, the chairman of a patpong association, has upset the authorities with his recent outbursts against the current 2 am closing of bars etc. not only has he been publicly criticising the government policy but also i hear he is from the wrong political party. further weight was given to this theory when he was arrested a few days ago. he was accused of having his karaoke bar open until 4 pm. the strange thing though was that he was arrested the following day and the local bangrak police knew nothing about it. every other arrest for late opening is made when the police raid the place after hours. needless to say praphan claims he is innocent and many seem to think he is. it seems bucking the chairman is not a good idea in modern thailand!
however, the biggest problems have been for travellers who have been unfortunate enough to have the wrong visa stamps. in a crackdown that has surprised every body in its ferocity, those with dodgy visa stamps are being stopped at the airport and refused permission to leave. the worst-case scenario happened to four lads from the uk. aged 20, this was their first trip abroad on their own. they stayed on koh phangan and had a great holiday. as their visa ran out they visited a travel agent offering visa extensions. it seems their passports did a trip to sadao and a suitable new visa was granted. needless to say these guys thought nothing of it. they even had a receipt for the extensions.
however, arriving at the airport they were arrested and put in jail. it took 36 hours for them to get access to the british consul and then bail of 300,000 baht each was granted. they remain on bail with a court case set for october 20th and judgment set for the 23 rd (after apec). whilst in jail they were treated appallingly and had their heads shaved.
but most of those caught have simply been barred from returning to the country, after a few days of embassy and immigration hopping, although i am told that as many as 60 brits remain on bail pending a trial. most european embassies have run out of passports as any passport with a potential dodgy stamp is being lost. in fact the embassies are advising those who have a potential problem to do just that (after photocopying the relevant bits, including any long term visa). of course many of those caught knew what they were doing as using visa services had become very much part of the norm and most people thought the authorities accepted it. many people i know have official receipts for such services, often including a 7% vat charge.
however, for some tourists this has proved a nightmare as they simply used a travel agent to do a job that in many parts of the world a travel agent would do. what they would not be aware of is that some visa services were using stamps they had made up, or in one case a stolen stamp, to add the new visa.
the sadao border seems to be getting most of the flak and several numbers of bad stamps have been published. i am told that 5 immigration officers from there have been re-assigned in the past few weeks. there is loads more info on this, and the item below, on http://www.thaivisa.com (relevant forum )
as a final note, there is to be a meeting this week between the main european consuls and the thai authorities to try and resolve these issues. in the mean time the consuls are being very tight lipped over the matter, maybe they do not want to upset the thai authorities. however, i would have thought their priority should be to their citizens and at the very least a general warning should go out.
apart from the above, the future visa situation is up in the air. proposals published suggest that the outlook for many will become a nightmare of bureaucracy that is intended to weed out low-level permanent visitors. i am watching this one carefully and will bring news as soon as it is firmed up. it seems that as long as you are over 50, and have 800,000 baht you can show in a thai bank account, you will always be welcome. but those living on a b visa and even a tourist visa may have problems. new work permits (after july 1st next year) look like becoming a real hassle, but what will happen about those with existing permits is unclear. all in all it is causing an enormous amount of discussion and speculation, and not a little concern to many residents. inevitably numerous are wondering if the chairman has simply decided to get rid of all farangs, except for package tourists and those who can afford an elite thailand card (cost; 1 million baht).
many are blaming all this on apec and i would concur, as far as the dodgy stamps are concerned. one thing is clear; the thai's have got their knickers in an enormous twist over apec. there has been much speculation that nana plaza (and soi 4) will be closed down. however a senior lumpini officer recently said there are no plans for that "at the moment." but he freely admitted he might be ordered from on high to do just that. the main part of apec is 19 - 23 october, although certain events start as early as the 10th. with the massive queens park hotel (sukhumvit soi 22) hosting many guests (as well as some functions), with all four and five star hotels full with delegates, and with many of the meetings and ceremonies happening on the chao praya river, expect sukhumvit road to be the major conduit connecting everything. this will mean closing it off to all other traffic, as escorted convoys blast up and down. the sky train, or legs, seem to be the only viable movement options. but please remember to carry proper id at all times as there will be a massive police operation and id will be in constant demand. and if that is not enough to keep you out of bangkok, it has just been announced that all cars entering the toll way to the airport will be searched for arms (specifically anti aircraft missiles).
Thanks YOYO. Will remember this next time... LL
21st, Day 4 Patpong delicacies and foreign ecstasy
13h00 Wake up and quick shower, my friend was still not here, as I was not very hungry I went directly to the Oriental to have a visit of the place and a quick snack at their Coffee shop before to have a quiet walk around Chinatown.
17h00 Back at the hotel for find my friend sleeping on the sofa in front of the TV, so had to kick his ass to know about his previous night adventure, which made me laugh, the girl mostly cry on his shoulder until 5h00, then they slept together without any appetizer until 11h00, then she wake him up licking his nipples and the rest is history or love story, he
had to leave at 13h00 because the girl had to see her parents.
So a quick shower, a change of clothe and direction Patpong by skytrain, never been there, this trip by sky train at that time made me have a few compound fracture of the right eye retina (had to keep the left eye close) due to the huge amount of cuties there.
20h00 After a quiet look around, we stop by the kangaroo bar, only one customer with a big smile there, the mamasan and girls are direct about their skills without the use of the hands, but nothing anymore at the bar for the moment due to the crackdown and price increase at 700 bath, so we choice and go in the small room behind the curtain and sat in the sofa in front of each other and let the girls worked, well have to say they have THE skill for bbbjtc, but mine use her hands during the 20 min of pumping, quiet disappointed, you are pro or not , so 100 bath tip. We left the place with a smile on the face and had a look at the “market”, we stopped at one “sarong” vendor (had to buy some for my Taiwanese staff anyway) because we was shocked by the price 2 Danish lady was close to pay for 4 sarongs ( 2000 bath), as they was pretty and big titted ( let say 7 and 7+, D and E cup), so I told them to wait, choose quickly 4 and manage the have the 8 sarongs for 1250 bath ( I think I could bargain more, please to tell me guys). As we was hungry with my friend, we invited the happy girls to a Japanese restaurant, enter the Patpong 2 entrance and the Saladaeng station stairs. We learnt than they was backpacker, arrived 2 days ago, they Found a good hotel in Kaosan rd, but soon the discussion turned in the sex scene in BKK, they was curious about sex show etc etc etc. They was also looking for a disco around here, I proposed them the Lucifer, I planned to have a look anyway, and good surprise they gave us an XTC pill to share with my friend (oh oh long time no see). (One thing shocking in that restaurant, was to see the parade of the Japanese guys with their Thai girlfriend, all the top looking are with them)
22h00-22h30 As all of us are warm and excited ( may be not for the same reasons), we moved back to Patpong and entered (I think) in super pussy upstairs, the place was really calm ( 10 customers with us), so we found a quiet place, I sat with Ms E (didn’t let my friend make it this time) and took a good care of her waiting the show start, the drinks arrived and the show too, I found that lame but we laugh at loud and fondled each other all the way.
00h00 We moved to Lucifer, still in Patpong 1, another great spot for Trance music, entrance free, busy most of the week day and full the week end.
01h30 We got them back to our hotel for great session ( never had my face slammed by that kind of huge tits before), I remember it ended at 4h30 and half a tube of KY ( SHIT I am slowing down).
End of day 4
damnoen saduak...
i too visited that famous market, but i arrived the night before and stayed in a hotel named (8 years ago - but i'm pretty sure it was) littlebird. well, plenty nok flying up the staircase to get a good bonking from mainly thai clientele.
i didn't sleep much for a different, less pleasant, reason.
no alarm had to wake me up, i was awake at 2am and didn't sleep for a sec after that. i left the hotel grounds before 6am and took a songthaew along the canal to the floating market. at that ungawwdly hour there is nothing touristy about it. in fact it was tons of fun! i rented a boat, paddled by a sweet thai lady. about an hour and a half for b60. quietly we floated along amongst the the fruitboats. kids came blasting by in their speed-longtails on their way to school. some young dude made gestures indicating a cheap fuck nearby.
life is wonderful.
in a wave of blinding generousity i tipped the lady paddler b20.
so, yoyohpw97, if you thought your trip was expensive, blame me:d!
Freeler,
I am not complaining about the price of this tour, 650bath all include, but about the place they showed us, I was expecting to see the REAL market not the one for the Japanese. I didn't want to do 100 km by minibus, stopping by a coconut farm (they show you how they rippe the coconut flesh ( please don't laugh), going to a market full at 85% of Tourists (60% Japaneses) to buy a bloody frog in wood or the same shity sarong you can find everywhere in Thailand and for a shiper price (imagine your friend show you a sarong he bought at the floating market for 600bth because it was a special purchase, then you show him the same one you bought at the Chatuchak market for 150 bath, hum hum hum).
This was out of the mongering subject, but I hope it will give the picture for the newbies.
Anyway I will have the time to visit quietly the roots parts of Thailand next year as my compagnie will transfer me in Chiang Mai in June.
Yoyo
Jaimito Cartero
10-04-03, 04:13
So, Yo-yo, you got some free danish salmon, eh? It's nice to never overlook the obvious tourists. Backpackers need lovin too!
It is interesting to see people bargaining for stuff. I don't interfere any, but it is worth a chuckle. People who paid 3 times more than I just paid and think they got such a good deal. I'm sure that I got a decent deal, but there's probably some Thai who only paid half of what I did. That's the American (er, Thai) way.
Jaimito,
Have to say than I just cannot do what LoveLOS did ( 27 pop in 7 days), not my style.
In every country the backpackers are always worth a try, a little difficult during day time, as they want to cut themselves of what they know, but far more open the night after a few glasses, and this is also available for the expatriates.
About the interference in the bargaining, it was THE good excuse to have a closer smell at these lonely huge breast ;-)
Yoyo
GettingTang
10-04-03, 06:02
There is only one way to really guarantee you are getting the best deal. I have learned this from years of experience in Mexico and buying automobiles over the year. "WALK AWAY"! If they chase you down, listen to there "lowest price" "deal only for you" then what do you do? Counter that offer, when they refuse, walk away again. Keep this process up, until you get at least 50-75 feet past them and they have no longer chased you down, if they no longer chase you down, you know it's likely, at least near their bottom price!! I however, only use this tactic on occasion, because I find paying just the "average" price for stuff in Thailand, is still a good deal.
GETTINGTANG~!
Jaimito Cartero
10-04-03, 10:26
GT - That works well most of the time. I usually only do it for larger amounts, though. Also if you stand there and look politely at them, they'll also go a lot lower. I get disheartened at some of the pricing, though. When they start at more than double what the final price is, it's a bit ridiculous.
In Nana Nightmarket (all day market now), I'd get people who would try and sell knockoff shirts for 6 times the final price! They'd start at 750 baht, and end at 150!
Jaimito Cartero
10-04-03, 10:31
Yo - Well, everyone has their own style. 2 or 3 times a day is my limit, personally. However, I spaced everything out on this trip, and on average on had a girl every other day. I'd go shopping, check out restaurants, and just wander around most of the time.
The BTS Skypass is really helpful if you're going to be using it frequently. They have 15 and 30 ride cards. However, if you go on just short hops (1-2 stations), then you'll waste a little money this way. If you go to On Nut, Mor Chit or such, instead of paying 35 or 40 baht, you go for half price.
One little note, the cards aren't 'smart', if you enter one side of the BTS, and exit the other, then you used up a trip. (I was testing it. Yeah. Just testing it.)
22nd, Day 5 Sweet day with my Honey
10h30 Woke up on the most confortable pillow I ever had, my Danish salmon (thanks JC), I quickly order a breakfast for 3 by room service, called my friend Mr O for a dinner cruise arrangement, a quick shower and went to meet with sweet Ms Shue shin met Saturday night.
12h30 We ate in a floating seafood restaurant: Yok Yor Khlongshan, on the Thonburi side of the river, opposite River city shopping complex, food is excellent there.
From 14h00 to 18h30 After taking the taxi boat to Phra Sumane port, she guided me in the old Banglamphu to the Grand Palace where we took another taxi boat to the Marriott Royal Garden Riverside Hotel, near Saphan Krungthep.
There we rested a little in the each other arms with a big glasses of refreshment.
19h30 Arranged by Mr O, we enjoyed a romantic dinner cruise on the Manohra, the Marriott boat, 3 hours trip, top quality food, 1400 bath/pax service charge and tax include ( but not the drinks), not ship but unforgettable.
As we arrange with my room mate, he spent another night with my honey’s friend at her place, I had the suite for myself, so we came back to the hotel and made love, slowly, all night long.
End of day 5
23rd, Day 6 Let’s get crazy
Didn’t do anything else than stayed in bed with my honey and order room service until 14h00, then we join my friend and his honey for some shopping action in a few malls.
18h00 We said bye bye to the girls, mine have a business presentation to prepare for the following day and will be busy until late evening, that was perfect for me, but I promise (the only promise I made) to see her again end of the month for 2 days stop over on the way to France, which made her happy.
Back to the hotel for a shower, change clothes, and at 19h30 we met Mr. O and 3 other friends at the restaurant “Le Banyan” in Suk soi 8, 100 meter before our hotel, for aperitif and dinner. Of course we started with a few waves of Ricard with some appetizer, follow by a succulent dinner, gastronomic French food for a surprising moderate price, all that pushed by some nice wine.
22h30 we arrived at the Chateau Blanc in Suk soi Ekkamai, the place is a gentlemen club nicely decorated, cute “bar tender” and stunning hostess, as we arrived late the majority are with customer already, and a band. We went directly up stairs in a reserved KTV room, soon 7 girls arrived, the bottles of Chivas followed. The choice of 7 girls was pretty clever as everybody can enjoy at all time 1 girl each and the last one is entertaining us singing something (luckily for this one we agree to let all of them turn on the micro).
We soon start to play a dice game with the girls, allowing the “take out the clothe if no drink”but not the jewelry, of course we were soon pretty drunk or clothe less, so a few BJs were done, a few pussies were fingered, some girls been took out when we left at 02h00.
With my friend we came back at the hotel alone and had a deep deep sleep.
End of Day 6
Ps: Mr.O had a membership on this club, so we had 20% on the F&B, but we still spent 3000bath each, and drank 4 bottles.
YoYo,
Hey man, enjoying your reports. Good go on the tourists. Might be scary to see the "pop count" for you on two days in bed with a big breasted european babe... Hmmmmmm.... You sure it's "not your style?" -LOL
I had a blowout trip, yes, if I had a month in LOS, I probably would have been a bit more mellow. I've seen the sights in previous trips, but the sweet Thai pussy was top of my menu this trip, so I went for the all-you-can-eat buffet....
Keep up the good work.
LoveLOS
Jaimito Cartero
10-06-03, 08:20
LoveLos - Hey, they say eating Salmon two or three times a week will make you very healthy.
People who are travelling or on vacation will do wilder stuff than someone on their lunchbreak. I certainly wouldn't turn down some cool Danish chick. Thailand is an adventure, and you never know what's around the next corner.
Yo - I'm not sure if you've described yourself. From most of your exploits I take it that you're Asian. Sometimes you go to another country and want to sample something other than the "normal weiners". I'm sure that you're an interesting new flavor for her.
That's why I wouldn't want to go to Thailand and look for Russian chicks. Now, sure I'd check out Lao or Vietnamese chicks since they're from the 'hood.
24th, Last Day for a supreme achievement
12h00 Let start by a wave of aspirin and a cold shower, My friend is already out for a breakfast at the Beer garden soi 8 (there are 2 beer garden in the Sukhumwit area, 1 soi 7 with FL, 1 soi 8 without FL), so I joined him for a quick snack and at 13h00 we was at the Eden to choose our Ladies for 17h00, the place was already filled with about 30 girls and it was still coming when we arrived, already one customer sat at the bar (it’s 12h56), so let’s go for the 1st beer of the day and a closer look at all these beauties, my friend quickly caught one on the left side and let her choice her partner, I took Fon, the “a little everything” specialist ( 2nd time I am taking her), and she choose her friend May, the both on the left side, the both are deepthroating, gulp!!!!
The time we chose 4 other customers arrived so we left, let Mark running is business ( just to precise, he told us than he is arrived at 40 girls, and have to say the place was full of girls when we left, and I really mean full).
13h45 to 16h30 We came to do some last minute shopping, then I came back at the hotel to start to pack and clean a little the room while my friend was buying some ammos for the evening ( beer, tequila, fruits, lemon, salt, etc etc).
16h55 Back to the Eden, another beer and up we went for 1h30 in a lusty heaven. As last time I refused to let Fon fucked me with her dildo after the first CIM, so she took care of her friend which was taking care of me, then I proceed to visit all these open holes, Fon’s backdoor while she was fucking May, then May’s backdoor while she was eating Fon, then I finished with Fon in cowgirl style, but before I came she showered me with her ejaculation, then kiss, shower, kiss and went back to the bar, the smile on the face, for another beer with the girls.
19h00 We went to eat at the Italian restaurant “Pomodoro”, we had a nice “cuisine of the sun” style dinner with water then back at the hotel, we took an half V pills each and watch TV.
20h00 We receive a Phone call from one of the friend who was with us the previous night, so I came down stairs to take him up, with the four friends he brought.
The 4 of them are CM2 huntresses, and ranged respectively as: Ms 1 look 6+ C cup, Ms 2 look 6 B+ cup ass 10, Ms 3 look 7 A+ cup, and, OH SURPRISE, Ms Fong (I stayed in the same syllable with the girls name that day) the girl I met at CM2 and finally sent back home because I was tired, look 7+ in day light A+ cup and ass 9.
So up we went for our private party, giving the deadline of 05h00 as I have my plane at 07h00 back to Taipei.
All of us get the opportunity to visit all the girls, I remember I did, even some over lubricate virgin asshole, each girl get 4000 bath, I had used about 20 condoms that night, for only 2 painful pops, I really enjoy Ms Fong, I smelt she was a sure killer in bed, oups it was on the sofa or may be the chair, don’t remember exactly, may be because of the 4 bottles of tequila killed.
Thanks a lot to the front office nightshift, which call at 4h30 to remind me my taxi at 5h00.
Thanks for the taxi driver, which could be the Thai version of J P Montoya, Suk soi 8 to airport: 15 min.
Thanks for my stomach, which permit me to not repaint the taxi windshield.
Thanks for the Thai airway on ground staff and crew for their help and kind understanding in front of an half asleep half drunk guy.
Thanks for the Aspirin Panadol (the strong one), which helped me to endure 2 straight days of headache.
End of the Trip
PS: Jaimito,
I am French, from south of France, 1 tier French, 1 tier Italian, 1 tier Spanish, 30 yo working in Asia since 3 years, started by China then moved in Taiwan 16 month ago and are waiting to get out of there (cannot stand this place anymore).
I am open for every good looking women of this planet, and of course up to D cup it help :-p , anywhere they are.
PPS: LoveLOS,
There are my figures:
1/ 5 pops with Ms Anchalee, 3 the afternoon and 2 the night, that is why I was irritated the following day.
2/ 0 it’s hurt.
3/ 1 pop at the Nataree MP, thanks Nivea.
4/ 4 pops, 1 bj at Kangaroo and the 3 others with my Danish salmon
5/ 2 pops with my honey in the evening.
6/ 2 pops with my honey in the morning.
7/ 4 pops, 2 at the Eden and 2 in the party in our room.
Total of 16 pops in 7 days with 2 complete day of rest for my lil bro.
You are still 11 pops in advance.
PPS: A last personal comment: After 3 small stop over of 2 to 3 days each, I came for a longer trip this time, with a closer look at the BKK nightlife, I finally realize than I don’t fancy what the majority of you guys love: Nana plaza, soi cowboy, open beer bar, thermae. But I am still curious and really impressed by some other aspect of this nightlife; I didn’t see everything yet and still dream about what I got.
At the day 3, have to say than the girl on the pic look more 6 to 6+ than a 7+, I looked at the Pic after posting, it's always better in memory.
Now I am planning my annual leave to France end of the month, with, of course, stop over in BKK, on the go and back, but will enjoy my honey.
February: I will go to the Sri Lankas to see my friend (the one who was with me in BKK) for at least a month. Then back to Europe until June, and I enter in the club of the lucky one as expat worker in Thailand.
Yoyo
Yo Bro,
Really enjoyed your trip reports. Sounds like you had a fuking blast and a blast fuking... LOL
Glad you got to do eden, which is a mind bending experience - IMHO. I believe the street scene is interesting if your tastes run to street walkers in your home country... Little wilder, more variables, lower cost and always always looking for that gem... It turns out my favorite 4 girls in terms of both beauty and fun in the sack work at:
A Thermae
B A Nana Gogo
C A street-side beer bar.
D Sidewalk on Suk.
BTW - Your pop count is admirable... :)
JC - Salmon, MMMMM my favorite!
LoveLOS
IMPORTANT INFORMATION
There seems to be an awful lot of punters on a budget, trying to save here and there. I have discovered something which might help. Even though I haven’t seen it addressed here, if it has, I think it bears repeating. I am also posting this on several of the LOS boards, as some people might only read 1 or 2, and it is of interest to all, so for those who have read this, or don’t like the same thing posted on several boards, TOO BAD !!!
There is a generic VIAGRA out there. It is called SILAGRA-100. It is made in India, a country which is fast becoming a very large manufacturer of drugs, at a fraction of the cost elsewhere. Each tablet contains 100mg of Sildenafil. There are 4 tablets in a box, and the box sells for 600Baht. Each tablet is as potent as a 100mg Viagra, I cut them into 4 pieces, and the results were just as great as “the little blue pill”. Viagra in LOS, in the 100mg tablet is 2,000 for a box of 4. quite a savings.
I bought them on the corner of Suk soi 11, but went into a couple of other drugstores just to ask, and they all had them.
Drugstores are also pushing the new “weekender”, named for the reason it lasts all weekend, made by Eli Lilly, but it is 2900 Baht for 2 hits, so not worth it in my opinion.
1ball
LoveLOS,
I always try manage enough time in stop over to go to the Eden, never disapointed and straight to the blast.
I am don't feel confortable with the street action, my taste run more on the clubbing and raving action ( I also love opera but it's not very convenient to get laid), I usually don't like the principle to pay directly for sex, but use it as an additional spice or by lazyness.
JC: All my chef told me than there is nothing better than a warm white buttered sauce with the Salmon ;-)
Yoyo
Even with the current crackdown in Thailand the action around the Nana Hotel and NEP is still very good. Below is a girl I found in Rainbow I, most of the girls in the Rainbow clubs tend to be to businesslike for my taste. All business looking at a quick short time and all for the baht. But she was different, never talked about money, and never tried to rushed things just a great time. I paid her 1500 baht and she was went away very happy the only no I heard from her was to nude pictures and that was not a problem for me.
Hmm, I only wish that tilac was wandering around Michigan -- great pic!
Pahllus Maximus
10-07-03, 12:52
What is a "starfish" ?
I am going to assume it means "just lie there with limbs akimber". Is that right ? I must admit, I need to train the girls to move and wriggle those hips, and fondle the balls. Many girls forget these vital skills. This is the opposite of a starfish right ?
I am in China en route to LOS. I have a cute girl friend who blows me on the slightest sign, maybe her way of keeping my eyes on her. I got her tested for nasties (me too) and on the pill. There is not hole I do not fill daily, though one thing you cannot do is anal to vagina, because it causes problems for girls. As good as it is, I'm off tommorow to BKK.
Has anyone ever gotten a Thai girl (or girls) cleaned up and on the pill ? How to keep them from whoring (even if you live with them, I've heard they will do a few tricks in the daytime) ? How about a cash bonus for no diseases at the years end that is irresistable (anyone want to volunteer a number ?)
I want some tiny, tight hot Thai pussy and I'm really pent up and rearing to go. My last trip was Noi; B-C cup, very tight anal, and lots of deep, passionate french kissing while I popped her rosebud. This time, I'm doing a repeat; getting two girls and a fold up massage table so I can roll out of bed, have a nice massage, breakfast and then lazily fuck her friend while the other gives me a good ball and prostate massage. I got an adjoining suite where I had some business clients, and had to hide a grin when I saw a cum splat mark on the wall, and knowing that two hot girls were behind the door waiting for me to knock. heh heh.
Guys......you can go on making money, there is no end. But you live only once and its finite. Amazing sex with beautiful girls is what nature wired the male brain for. I am convinced that sex and health go hand in hand, and guys need it to stay vital. We should bring Thai girls to the States on a "S" visa, so anyone a bit grumpy or down will quickly get a spring in his step, reduce health costs etc etc.
Anyway, hopefully APEC will not chill things too much.
Any ideas where to get weekly girlfriends ?
Cmon, maybe Gettingtang~ can offer some tips....
Pahllus Maximus
10-07-03, 13:01
Revival of Idea.
I still think that the USA to Asia is very long, at least 15 hours. Does anyone know how we could create a "Nana Airlines" with decent, tasty food, some bars, and 1 hour, er executive cabins where one could have a full and frank exchange of views with the crew ?
Screw the "Welcome aboard", it would be "Haaaaalo hansome man, come inside please, you buy crew colaaaaaaaaaaa" and when you sit down, the crew joins you for a personal demonstration of the equipment.
Maybe a satellite video link to Eden Club, and the trip woud go much faster, and the guys would all be happy and relaxed upon upon arrival, the only thing to declare being a BIG GRIN.
Ahhhhhhh....counting down the hours....
Asian Trip day 2
Arrived in Bangkok from Singapore by 9.00am, checked in at hotel , shower and when to get some Thai food.
Checked at 10.30pm on Thermae, very few girls. Waited until 11.30pm and I found one 24 year old, decent very friendly with reasonable good English, we agreed on 1000BHT for ST. She was OK, but nothing to remember for life. She had a funny name “Cartoon”. I will probably go back to Thermae to find something else for tonight.
I am planning to check Eden tomorrow, if any monger in Bangkok willing to join ? welcome!
Yoyo: Your reports are outstanding (for a French!!) joking, I am French too.
Denis
Jaimito Cartero
10-07-03, 19:06
PM - I find that if you have them chained and gagged they won't be out working too much. I recommend having some leather attached to the inside of the cuffs so that if she tries to escape she won't bleed all over the carpet and bed.
(That's a joke, by the way.)
Hey, either you find one that really digs you, or not. Unless you want to spring for a chastity belt.
Jaimito Cartero
10-07-03, 19:08
Denis - Thanks for the report and picture. How about more details about what was only "ok" about her? Good oral skills? Just layed dead on the bed when you were screwing her?
Jaimito
In fact she was as I said just OK, tight pussy but not very active , but I must admit BJ was pretty good,
I when back to Thermae, now much more choice, so I tried a new one, same price style and mainly same attitude, nice , but not partipating, and she kept saying that I was too big and I was hurting her; bullshit , she was not a virgin!! In fact I really prefer LT as you have more time to pratice and she does not think the quickest she make you come , the quickiest she can be out..
The only negative think is that she did not allow me to take a picture of her, even dressed. She saw my PC and she said that I will put her picture on Internet. Would I ?
Denis
An other picture of Cartoon
Boyzees,
LarryOne is on his way back to LOS for a quick visit. I am on a business trip in a country close by and plan to spend the weekend of Oct 25 (Fri, Sat night) in BKK. I have met up with monger from the board on my previous trips (met Muff Driver in Pattaya a year ago) and I have found it a pretty good time as we all share the same interest. If anyone is in town perhaps we can meet at Gullivers or Biergarten to swap stories and then hit Cowboy for some hunting (Cowboy is by the way my new favorite spot subsequent to my trip in Aug/Sept).
L1
Denis,
Thanks for the compliment, but I wonder if anybody understand a world of what I was trying to say, so I am counting on you to upgrade the level.
Try to go to Eden around 13h00, the choice is so amazing than it's difficult to decide quickly ( about 40 ladies).
Have a blast and please report, this forum must stay as alive as it is now and not like it was 1 month ago.
Yoyo
The Nana Hotel has always been girl central in Bangkok. The Nana Disco always has many free lancers working the club. The photo below is of a girl who works the lobby of the hotel. You can find her in front of the travel desk in the chairs most nights after 1:00 am. Service is good and no problems, 1000 baht short time and she is happy.
Asian trip day 3
Took care of some business in the morning and treated myself to a manicure, pedicure + a shave and massage with HJ release (800baht all inclusive)
Went after to the hotel to have a nap, and I decided it was time to check Eden Club, arrived by 5.30pm, probably 40 girls were waiting inside and only one customer; me!!
Had a drink and was very embarrassed to choose, finally took a tall young big breasted girl, we went to the hotel next door (part of the Eden I suppose) with her girlfriend carrying a small briefcase. The girlfriend was pretty nice but very small.
They showered me, while on the bed, one proceeded to a nice deep throat BJ and the other one kissed me and sucked my nipples, could not resist long, after nice soft relaxating massage with 4 hands, they asked me if I could come again? Sure!!!
The tall one (fake breast) put on a dildo and started to fuck the small one; pretty exiting, so I put a condom on and fucked the tall one doggy style. She asked me if I wanted back door but I am an anal fan. Again nice massage little talk in limited English and I asked for another deep troat BJ,( the first one was so good!!).
So did I like the Eden Club? Yes!! It was a long time since a came 3 time in 90 minutes!
Paid 3.200baht for the 2 girls and gave a 300baht tip as the service provided was really good..
Tonight I will probably go back to Thermae or try the Riva’s disco in my hotel if too tired.
LOS should be LOS and LOP (paradise)
Denis
Follow up of my last night in Bangkok,
After grabbing some Red Curry Chicken (very hot but very good) went to Thermae where many girls were available, not so many customers today.
Found a nice little thing named Renu, nickname: Bee, chatted for a while, excellent English, agreed on 1500baht for LT and as she was well dressed I decided to have a look with her at the Riva’s disco in the Sheraton. Wow! a lot of classy ladies there, I inquired about prices, 10Kbaht for short time!! I am really wondering if it is worth it!! Will maybe try next time if I can charge it to my room.
We had couple of drinks; after 2 glasses of wine , she was really in love with me (nice feeling , this is why also I like Thailand , all the ladies are falling in love with you easily!!).
She was hot!! Went to the room, showered, and she became wild, sucked me like a mad girl, she was all wet , took her, and apparently she came, in fact if she faked she could recycle in the movie business, rested a little bit and she sucked me again dry.
Today was a good day: 6 pops. Not bad for an old man not using any blue pills.
Tomorrow I am going to India , I will post reports.
Denis
Jaimito Cartero
10-08-03, 21:03
Denis - I can't think of any girl in Thailand that is worth 10k baht. Sounds like a tourist rip off to me. Reminds me of US or Euro prices.
Jaimito
They were a lot of Japanese business men in the Bar/Disco, this is maybe the reason, but I agree with you, all the mongers should stick to the 500-1000Baht for ST and 1000 to 1500baths for LT
Headhunter2000
10-09-03, 16:18
Denis,
I have gone to the Rivas a few times and have never been quoted such a ridiculous price. Maybe the girl you talked to noticed that you already had a girl in tow, and was pulling your chain. Having said that, the Rivas is not a place I recommend. The drink prices are exorbitant, and the ladies there are nothing special in my opinion.
Am heading to LOS in a few days. I have been there several times but I'm interested in Denis' report on the shave, massage, pedicure and HJ. Where can you find this?
Azan,
The place is on Sukhumit very close to Thermae, if you walk from Thermae direction nana plaza, it is 100 meter after Thermae on the right in a small alley between two bars. it is writen massage , on the glass door , you can see foot and hand massage with a foot and a hand .
Rivas spells rip-off-IMHO. At some point, we all go through a phase when we think that girls who are dressed marginally more attractively will be different or better after their clothes are off.
EXPERIENCE CONFIRMS THAT IT JUST AIN'T SO!
That said, this is price of our illusions - so, if it makes you feel better to spend 10K (or 5K) because you think you're getting an "Office Girl" or a "Good Girl" so be it. It's your money.
Just consider this: Why did the owner of the bar Schoolhouse dress his babes up in school girl outfits? I think that it's the same deal- just to feed our illusions.
Mind you I don't say this as someone who knows better, just as someone who's been there (and who'll probably be there again since we only learn the hard way).
Indeed, I learned the hardest way, with a "real office girl, educated and all. She was just more skilled at taking more from me and had me cooperating all the way to the bank (for a lot more thsan 10K).
Best of luck.
Thanks Denis. I think I know the place you're talking about. I've walked by that place a hundred times wondering if there might be extras. Now I know. :-)
Thais push safe sex with 'Miss Condom' pageant
10/10/2003
BANGKOK, Thailand (Reuters) - A bevy of Thai bar girls, health officials and a transvestite blew up condoms and paraded for a different kind of honor -- the title of "Miss Condom Asia-Pacific."
Featuring 20 contestants from four different nations, the contest aims to promote safe sex in Thailand -- a country on the frontline in the war against HIV/AIDS in Asia.
But instead of twirling batons or warbling show tunes, "Miss Condom" competitors wowed the judges with their condom-blowing prowess and knowledge about the virus, which has infected over seven million people across the region.
"It's education plus entertainment," said Sen. Mechai Viravaidya, known as "Mr. Condom" for his work in promoting AIDS awareness in Thailand. He said the 20-year-old contest helps to remove the stigma of condom use in a nation still ruled by conservative social mores.
Thailand, where infection rates are falling after a campaign to promote condoms among commercial sex workers, is one of the region's rare success stories.
While infection rates are far lower in Asia than in southern Africa, the global epicenter of the disease, the Asia-Pacific region could account for 40 percent of new infections by 2010 if prevention efforts are not stepped up.
YoYo and Denis,
You said the selection is great in the early afternoon.
I would have thought that many of the better looking girls would start later when there are more mongers around (=more money). No?
Does the quality of girls improve at night or the guys are just drunk?
The Traveler
10-10-03, 22:35
Denis
what hotel did you stay in ?
Everyone,
A group of us from the board are having a get together in Bangkok for some fun and bullshit on the 7th of November. We are going to get together at 7:30 that night, probably at the new place call Privilege or at the Blue Wave Bar that is below the Privilege, both are located on Sukhumvit Road, between Soi 2 and Soi 4, for a few drinks and a little bull shit before hitting the streets, for a night of fun! A group of us did this last year and it was great! If you are going to be in Bangkok on the 7th, join us it will be party!
If you are intested, please e-mail me at jimhart69@hotmail.com
Hope to see you!
Badass,
Eden is not a go go, all the girls start at 13h00, and believe it or not this is the time to go there if you wanna have the best selection. it has always been a busy place where you don't loose time at the bar ( you arrive, you choice, may be you drink something with the girls and you go for 90 min of deep and intense lust with a minimum of 2 girls, then come back at the bar have another drink to cool down before to pay and leave) because the place is small and the owner intransigent about the concept of the place.
If you never been there I suggest you to ask to Mark to explain you about his concept and rules, tell him what you will like to do or to try, he will point you the right girls for you to have the best experience.
I know you are going to have a blast there, enjoy it.
Yoyo
Traveler
I stayed at the Sheraton in Sukhumvit, I found a 120 us$ deal on Internet.
This hotel is really girls friendly and the location is great.
Denis
I'm in Bangkok now am dissappointed in the action at Nana Plaza and Patpong redlight district. I was here 8 days ago and there was triple the action. I never seen so many model types when I was here a week ago. I asked a local and he told me in broken english the was some kind of crack down or something. The taxi drivers here are terrible they have been giving me the sceneic rought. I now have a set price or I won't go but feel I am still paying triple. I have nothing to compare the prices too so I am at there mercy. I had one taxi I told to stop the car and he pretended not to hear me. After 4 minutes of yelling at him I almost had to jump out of the car. He finally stopped and I luckely found a taxi with a set price. Hopefully the action will pick up tomarrow.
PosterLion
10-12-03, 00:36
Speaking of Taxi's
ChiMan II: You have the option to get out of the Taxi and get into another. Always ask them to turn on the meter. I don't know how to say this in Thai so I just lean forward and point directly at the meter and say, "meter." If they turn on the meter you will see 35 indicated by a red LCD light on the meter.
Most of the time they will turn it on because they realize you know they are supposed to turn it on. But sometimes they will not turn it on and that is when you get out or play along and get the ride anyway.
One time I was trying to get to my hotel after 3am from Patpong and none of the cabs would turn the meter on. They just smiled and said 100 Baht. Well, this is probably about 40 or 50 Baht more than a metered trip but sometimes I just don't care. My point is that it is "up to you." If you decide to take the trip then accept it, or simply get out and try another cab.
Can ANYONE tell me the Thai word for meter? I think that will help us all out. Thanks in advance. I looked it up in my dictionary but sometimes dictionaries are not the best source. They don't include slang and whatnot. My dictionary says the Thai word for taximeter is mee-tuh. I think I will memorize this. :)
Now... I can agree that they like the scenic route. When I left Bangkok on September 22nd the Taxi driver flat-out missed the airport exit. I started saying, "Stop stop, you miss airport." He stopped and realized his mistake. There was a toll both about one kilometer ahead that I did not want to go through and no way to turn around.
He handled the situation brilliantly. He threw it in reverse and we went down the Expressway backwards for about a kilometer or so until we arrived at the exit for the airport. All the while he was saying, "Sorry, so sorry."
Luckily it was about 4am and there was no traffic. I tipped him 15 baht for the rectification of his mistake. Made the plane with no problem and watched my beloved Bangkok disappear out of the airplane window. If you sit on the right side of the aircraft you can normally get a full view of the city and the river as you depart. I think it is quite impressive.
poster...
picked her up at Biergarten about a week ago. I have protected her face for the purposes of anonimity.if this is too over the top, my apologies to Jackson, will not repeat the mistake.
1ball,
I hope that isn't over the top. I love the pic. Matter of fact, made me pretty hungry....! The countdown for me is 11 days.
cheers
Lalake
lalake
happy you liked it. (what's not to like, of course)
R U going to BKK? will probably be back there around the week end of the 25 - 26, or a couple of days later. Fancy a drink, followed by a little poooooon chasing?
1ball
JimHart69,
How long are you going to be in BK. I arrived on Nov 9th and would like to join your group, if it is possible. By the way, can you recommend some friendly girl hotels.
Thanks
San Dog
1ball,
I arrive on the 22nd, and go out on a golfing holiday to the Hua Hin area on the 25th. But, hopefully you and all others here will keep me posted on the events in BKK, in case I stick around a few days. I was going to arrive on the 20th, but, that's in the middle of the APEC, and decided not to be around at that time.
cheers,
Lalake
PosterLion
Question about Thai for "taxi meter". I posted a link to a handy Thai Langauge website in the General Info section. They include a short group of examples that are taxi specific:
http://www.thai-language.com/id/589859
It looks like "me tuhr" is how it is pronounced, but an example with sound file for "Use the meter" is about 2/3 the way down that page.
Hope it helps.
Tatoosh
Marco Pole
10-12-03, 20:06
Hey guys,
Apologies if this has been covered already, but did Eden close down? Just tried to check their website and it looks like its been pulled down. Part of the Apec crackdown?
MP
Jaimito Cartero
10-12-03, 21:16
Marco - It has been reported. Marc has shut the web site down during APEC. Should be back when it's done.
Pahllus Maximus
10-13-03, 05:45
Bangkok Update
Yes, roads are messed up, APEC is not much fun. But soon back to normal.
My latest girlfriend is cool. Excellent scrotum massage whilst banging her, moves those hips. Downside a bit of teeth when sucking (then again, I'm on the larger size). Does anal. 1500 baht per 24 hours. I was watching one of the APEC "dignitaries" on TV whilst banging her rosebud. Hah ! So much for restraint.
My only complaint is a loose pussy, too much farang cock (maybe thats why she does anal) ? Does anyone know if girls tighten up if you take them out of circulation ? My guess is fucking 5-10 guys a day makes them loose. Anyone know of better likelihood of finding tight pussy (note: cute, young chicks are often the most loose) like different areas of BKK, maybe Thai local places where their pussies are not always being stretched out ten times a day ?
I just adore those tiny ! cute ! 1-2 inch Thai pink slits that look so neat, and are so tight you can't help popping soon.
Headhunter2000
10-13-03, 07:28
Mr. Phallus, I whole-heartedly concur. Your best bet is to get away from Sukhumvit to places farang rarely visit, or choose an ugly girl who has never had a baby. Unfortunately, we farang are not welcome at many of the exclusive Asian clubs. You could call it racism, but the fact is they know our reputation for vagina stretching. I guess we are lucky tourism is down. The girls used to get fucked 20 times per day--now it's only 10, heh heh.
AsiaTraveler2
10-13-03, 11:42
Headhunter/Pahllus;
A couple of corrections .. Asian exclusive clubs have nothing to do with farang's reputation for vagina stretching. It has to do with the tendency for Asians to spend big bucks with no questions asked (no haggling .. no problems) and also the perception that farangs have a higher rate of VD/Aids/Etc. Not saying that's true .. just their reasoning. Also Vagina's are not stretched out by penis size. There's not a penis on earth, that would be big enough to create that problem. It's due to having given birth.
AT2
Fellas,
Got the APEC blues? Come on down to Pattaya we are feeling no effects! There are virtually no crowds, top notch gash abounds. Rooms can still be had at off season rates till the end of the month. Fine azz chicks for 500-1000 with more than three times the bars as Bkk. Cleaner air, so screw APEC and screw the polluted big city!
Sandog
I'm in town October 31st thru November 10th. Your hotel question is a big question. What is your budget? The best around hotel, that is middle of the road in price is Majestic Suites (majesticsuites.com). But the best is to look in the Bangkok Hotel section on WSG or another good place is **************.com, they both have good informations on hotels in Bangkok, read back in the forums.
Everyone,
A group of us from the board are having a get together in Bangkok for some fun and bullshit on the 7th of November. We are going to get together at 7:30 that night, probably at the new place call Privilege or at the Blue Wave Bar that is below the Privilege, both are located on Sukhumvit Road, between Soi 2 and Soi 4, for a few drinks and a little bull shit before hitting the streets, for a night of fun! A group of us did this last year and it was great! If you are going to be in Bangkok on the 7th, join us it will be party!
If you are intested, please e-mail me at jimhart69@hotmail.com
Hope to see you!
Traveler Tom
10-13-03, 14:32
Watch the Asian 'exec' clubs
They may have a curiosity element but by and large stick to the more regular route.
Unless you think 'Asian' or 'Oriental' and know your way around you can waste a lot of time, often be disappointed and be relieved of a ton of money.
They are, indeed, aimed, in the main, to rich locals and the Japanese - the latter seem to get totally lost as to what is value for money once they have had their cocks grabbed which explains the hopelessly high prices one gets landed with (and that is without the girls!).
In a totally unexplainable evening a colleague and I managed to get a bill for USD 1000 for a bottle of Black Label in an 'Asian' type club. 95% Japanese - not one European - we are regular punters and travellers in SEA.
At the end of the evening (or rather early morning) after considerable haggling we were able to get a sizeable reduction to the charge which we looked on as a triumph - the other triumph was that the management was not aware that we were topping up the glasses with our own hidden supply which accounted for a disproportionate amount of blurry eyed, swaying, ladies whose job it was to polish us off with the BL etc.
The final Triumph was that my colleague succeeded in having it off with the Mamasam at the club the next afternoon in his hotel without paying a dime (in fact she never asked for anything - perhaps that explained the rebate on the bottle? - think Oriental?) Sadly I was less fortunate and never got this kind of bonus.
By the way, he still owes me for half the BL - but I will get that back - does he have the edge on me? He He!
FYI this was in Taiwan so we felt less sorry for the management - something we would not do in the LOS (?!)
Keep thinking through those loins but keep an eye on the CC as well!
Regarding the stretched-out vagina discussion - I've never run across a 'loose' one in all my Asian travels. As much as I like the looks of the younger ones, I have to admit that in bed I actually prefer the older ones who've had a kid. You can really go at it hard without having to hear 'Jep! Jep!' the whole time.
Regarding Pattaya - sounds great Bil. I'll be back there in a month. Good to hear prices are the same as 39 baht to the dollar hurts. Are barfines still 200 baht outside the overpriced go-gos? And one more question - where can one find 'three-holers' in Pattaya?
Ok went to Patpong tonight. I was very pleased with the action. I went in a club called I think kings. Seen a girl I liked immediately. Asked her how much for short time she said 1500 baut. I said 1000 she said ok. Paid the 500 baut bar fine and off we went. My hotel was to far away so I figured it would be cheaper to go to a room across the street. She looked better in the dark but see was 21 years old with perfect tits. See gave a shitty blow job. What is up with these thai women constantly streching the condom down with there hand. I was worried the condom might break. Anyway sex was good she was real tight. She tried to kiss me many times with tougue but I turned away. SOme bar girls are not the kind you want to kiss. She had such a sweet and warm personallity though. I felt like I known her for years. After we were finished I rested 15 minutes the took here back to here bar. She pulled me back inside to watch the vagina shows. She sat next to me with my arm around her. The mommey came by and asked what I wanted to drink. I told her I drank enough for now and will order alittle latter. She acted like she didn't hear me and repeated the question. I said an orange juice. Five minutes latter the mommey with another older woman from the management brought some food wrapped in plastic wrap for my bargirl. They said only 60 baut. I said no and refused to pay for my bar girls food that she did not ask for. My bar girl seen how I was uncomfortable and told them she did not want it. I was pissed and paid for my drink and left. I do not have a problem buying my bargirl something to eat. I do have a problem when the house tries to force something on me and force me to pay.
Ok, in the 10 days I have been in Bangkok and Pattaya I was with probally 18 women. All were great and looked healthy but there was two that are worth mentioning. One girl I noticed have 3 white pimples about 3 inches away from her vagina. I wonder if if was because it was shaved down there but I don't know. Anyone ever see anything like this??? I made sure the white pimples did not come in contact with my body! The second girl I would like to talk about had a white patch on here ass. Around the white patch was a black and blue mark that circled the patch. The patch looked like a cobb web type material. I am not a skin doctor but never seen anything like it. Anyone ever experience this?
PosterLion
10-13-03, 23:48
Thanks Tatoosh,
I generally don't have a problem with the Taxi's but it is always good to add a new word (that you can pronounce correctly) to your vocabulary.
I'll go check it out. I like the idea that they have sound files. COOL!
poster...
After checking it out. WOW! That site is great for learning some basic stuff.
Thanks again Tatoosh!
The Traveler
10-14-03, 11:57
PosterLion
Don't want to critize Tatoosh, but the way he spelled it could hardly be understood by any thai. It's just one word not two and more important it's just the english word cause there is no thai word for it, like apple, zip(per) and so on.
Don't know what you americans make out of it but I would say, try "chai meter" or "tchai meter" means "use the meter".
Have fun
PosterLion
10-14-03, 12:10
Traveler,
hahaha!
I don't know what we American's make of it either. :)
But that site Tatoosh gave is pretty cool. I went and listened to the guy pronounce it in Thai (I think the guy actually was Thai) and now I can say it well enough to be understood.
But yeah, you're right, if you just say meter it's good enough as that is what I've always said, and it's always worked except late at night when all the taxi guys start price fixing.
I think the site is pretty cool for a white guy like me that knows nary a word of Thai. The audio pronunciation tools are very helpful. Hmmm... Not meaning to sound like an ad-ver-tis-ment
poster...
Pahllus Maximus
10-14-03, 13:19
Loose Pussy.
My guess is that getting fucked 10-20 times a day by at least 10 minutes each time is 100+ minutes a days of playing hide the sausage, and big red throbbing one at that. There is no way this is not going to condition the vaginal walls to relax when penetrated. I don't think 10-20 fucks a day is natural, and it leads to stretched pussy. Having a kid also causes a loose pussy.
But there is a clear difference between bar girls and other women.
Maybe going upmarket to the bath houses reduces throughput to just a few old Japanese geriatrics who have a little tremble and come with little peckers. No wonder the girls like Japanese.
Maybe it is trial and error.
But what I can say is that a tiny little pink slit that is tight, a smiling beautiful girl with her fingers squeezing my balls and gooch while I bang her makes everything really cool and makes for happy men. Notice when we get pussy how much fun everyone has at the bar, telling jokes, stories about back home etc. Pussy denial causes stress and guys to become mean. More sex and everyone will be happier. Women have so much power, men need sex and get cranky without it. Fact.
Maybe my current beau has sat on too much cock. I'll get a few more girls for a threesome or foursome, and pick the tightest and best in bed. I like to buy them sheer stockings and suspenders and parade around in.
But...imagine being the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and getting a blow job from Monica whist on the phone - that's when you have arrives. Lot's of women would suck Bush if he made a public plea - thousands of volunteers. I think he would be a lot happier and the world safer if, ahem, missile work began at home. Maybe we ought to take up a plate for him to come to Posiedin, CP2 etc, or reopen the old Whitehouse bar on Sukumvit they closed down in the old Clinton Plaza (that was a happening place) !
PS. As to the diseases mention below: the white pimples are probably just that: blind hair glands like a white-head (said she was shaved). It could also be warts or molluscum/ HP. The other one sounds more like a deep bruise, though it could also be a remnant of a *secondary* syphillis lesion (such as a deep nodular) that in Asian skin could be a depigmented spot. Ringed or annular lesions are known. It is a pretty vague description.
On good house keeping, patrons of this fine site should periodically get checked for chlamydiae, goonoreah and syph and other nasties that you could pass on to others. You may not get easy signs like a sore dick, so best to play it safe with blood tests. Lot's of free clinics to do this with. Just sign up as Richard Nixon or whatever to stay anonymos. And do this back home rather than rely on Asian labs.
Have fun, play safe, be nice.
(and tight pussies RULE)
Look, a kid can lead to looseness, but not simply screwing. It's also a natural consequence of aging. It's the tone of the pubococcygeal (PC) muscles surrounding the vagina that accounts for tightness or looseness, and tone comes from muscle control. For most women, those muscles bounce back even after giving birth, and lots of sex is definitely not going to affect them. The bottom line is that women who do Kegel exercises are going to have lots of control, and if they don't they may or may not. If you're getting loose pussies from certain sex providers, it's probably because they just lie back and take it as opposed to as being active participants in sex. Active participants exercise the muscles in question.
If you're going to exercise muscles, they're going to tone. The logic of the whole "too much screwing makes them loose" argument is like saying that doing sit-ups or crunches will make your stomach bigger. I've been with some sex workers who've been with more men than I'd care to count who have been tight as drums, and it's because they work on those muscles.
(And, of course, men can do their own set of Kegel exercises to help control climax.)
That said, PM, amen to your comments about getting regular STD tests. If you're gonna play, be safe -- it helps keep us all safe.
Frank Africa
10-14-03, 17:52
Dear ChiMan II:
The clubs of the Kings chain usually pride themselves on not ripping off their customers.
In any case, the 60 baht fee for your girlfriend's food is only about U.S. $1.50 which seems like a small amount to fuss over. Sometimes one has to put the "matter of principle" on the back burner and just pay up to avoid an embarassing/uncomfortable situation. Sounds like you would have been better off to just pay the 60 baht then relax and continue to enjoy the show.
Dear Frank Africa,
I did not say Kings ripped me off. I would of rather them brought us a menu and asked if we would like something too eat. Three girls surronded me flashed food in my face and demanded I pay. I went back to Patpong the following night and visited as many gogos as I could to end my last day in Thailand. There were about 3 out of the 10 that I really enjoyed because they did not pressure me to pick a girl as soon as I sat down. At one club an older lady sat at the table next to me and asked me every 2 minutes what girl I want to take home. I like to relax drink and take my time choosing a girl. I ended the night at Nana plaza and picked a 18 year old greeting people at the door. 600 for the house and 1000 for her. She was extremely clean and sweet so I was very happy. She even gave me her number after and told me to call her from the USA. Interesting.
I'm not sure I'm supposed to do this but:
http://www.amuzingthaicartoons.com
you may get a chucke out of it.
The_Traveler
Sorry if my example caused confusion. Yes, meter is the word they use apparently. And your example of "chai meter" is just the sound file they have that on the site for "use the meter".
I was primarily trying to point to the site since it seems like a good place for a non speaker to start getting a feel for the Thai language and to learn some helpful phrases.
I'm still researching thai language books and cd's so I can start to learn it a bit more coherently.
Lastly, I'm no expert on any of it, I just share what I run across, if it seems appropriate. I always appreciate reading what you more experienced posters have to say.
Tatoosh
GettingTang
10-14-03, 22:43
size, looseness facts:
women, like men are born with their size predetermined! true a women's vagina or sexual organ goes inward and the males protrudes outward, but there size is what it is just like a males. men are labeled with the burden of a "size" issue when in-fact it should be the women. most vaginas are about 6 inches long some like the penis of a male can run 7 to 8 inches.
the vagina can become more receptive to a larger insertion tool over time, given regular sexual encounters with a larger tool. the term, being "stretched out" is mostly a myth. looseness comes from giving birth as the muscles surrounding the vagina can be damaged and stretched during birth, but also can be redeveloped back to their original state. the vagina does not become loose from fucking, period. remember, she is born or given what she has, exactly the same as you the guy is!
women determine size not men.
if you know of a girl who likes or seeks out a large pecker, then chances are she is a bit on the loose size herself. fact: 95% of women are content with a guy having a 6 inch package, most women who want a pecker larger then this are because they, themselves have an oversize vagina and have found it difficult for a smaller male to reach all the good spots.
most sexual therapists recognize this fact, but yet men are still labeled with the size burden and never the girl. this is simply because, the males tool sticks outward protruding from the body and the girls is mostly hidden and internally. but the fact still remains, an average size pecker, if used properly can please 95% of all women, so women who like a large package and put men down for a smaller size, should recognize they are likely a loose goose!
the nice thing about thai women, like their male counter parts, they have the smallest organs. fact, the smallest in the world. thai women have naturally the tightest vaginas on the planet. so next time you are put down or teased for having an average size package, remind you girl, that your average size package is capable of pleasing 95% of the population of women on planet earth and it is she who is the problem having that loose mayonnaise type jar vagina. tell her that fucking her is like fucking a mayo jar! it will quiet her in a hurry and leave her with the complex issues rather then you
all this being said, my package is of course way above average :) 7.5 inches to be exact. truthfully i have had many thai women, especially the younger ones, say it is way too big for them. this too can be overcome by going very slow and getting her really lubricated, either naturally or otherwise. there is nothing like watching your pecker go in and out of that petite thai ladies vagina. they are truly small and pleasurable!
gettingtang~!
I heard that there are some remarkable places for the massage of the balls, Mermaid or Subway Massage places.
Does anyone know which is better?
What do I expect, lenght of time, position cost, etc.
Thanks in advance.
Hi all,
This is my first report post. Hope you guys like it.
The plane get in around 10pm, I got out and there is no one waiting for me out side the gate. I figure they probably outside waiting. So I went straight to immigration and customs.
I got stop by the Customs. they start to look into all my stuff, telling me I can¡¦t bring some of my stuff in. I have to file all kind of paper before I can bring those stuff in and that will take 3to7 working days
I was there for more then 30min try to talk my way out but it just won't work. Finally my friend's translator show's up with some more immigration and customs official they negotiated for 10min and finally I was free to go with all my stuff under one condition.
I always tell my friends about how Thai people are very nice even the fuckup greedy one?
Well I was right. The condition is pay those three official 200 Baht each that's total of 600Baht..
Anyone know how much is 600Baht in USD?
I guess that's why they are so poor.
I got in the car and the translator told me we are going to the hotel to check in and his Boss is waiting for me at the hotel also. I told him that's good because I'm very tired.
And his cell phone starts to ring after I say "I'm very tired"
It was his Boss my friend Mr"Thong". And I guess I'm not going to check in any time soon. And here is what happens on the phone¡K:
Mr Thong: Hey Jackal tell the driver go straight to the Karaoke .I will be there waiting..
Jackal: but I'm very tired and I got to get up early can we do this "some other night"??
Mr. Thong: No we can't because we are doing other things for "some other night¡¨ not to worry we just going to have a drink or two and go home ok?
Jackal: and I don't want to bring any girl back to hotel with me tonight ok.
Mr. Thong: ok, deal.
I got in the nightclub and they said to me Mr. Thong is not there yet but the room is ready. And that was a very big room, Can fit at lest 30 person. Mamasan keep asking me "Hi handsome boy you like Thai girl or Chinese girl?
I keep on saying "later later, wait for Mr. Thong ok?" At the same time waiter already got Mr. Thong's whisky out and I start to drink with the translator and driver but the driver only drinks Coke.
THONG got there about 30min later with his girl friend and first thing out of his mouth is how come there're no girls.
I told him: hey I told you I don't want any remember I told you that on the phone?
Mr. Thong: ya ok but I can't drink if there are no girls around.
Me: Well I don't want non but you can do what ever you like beside you got your girl friend here already
Mr. Thong: That's only one girl I need girls. Just get a few girls in and we can drink with nothing more ok?
Me: A few? Why a few?
Mr. Thong: One for each hand.
So now I got two girls around me one on each side.
Mr. Thong: Hey poke there tits find out if they're real for me ok.
Me:I can tell you they're real just by looking at it.
Mr. Thong: Poke it anyway for me, I will do it my self if my girl friend is not here¡K.
Me: I'm not going too poke their tits¡K
Mr. Thong: Why? You don't like their tits?
Hey call mamasan in I like to get another Big tits girl for my friend. So now I got three girls around me one on each side and one on my lap.
Mr. Thong: Let's play dice. Jack watch me I'm going to get all those girls fxxkup.
Me: You going get your self fuckup, and don't take me there with you.
After 3 bottles of Johnny W guess who got fxxkup?
That's right he got fuckup and I was in pretty bad shape too.
Finally time to go home Thong ask me to bring those girls back to hotel with me and I told him no I can't I'm too drunk to do any thing and it's all his fault.
Got back to my hotel went straight to bed after shower but here is where got kinda weird for me. I got up 7am with major headache, and one of the girl from last night was sleeping next to me but I can't remember anything after I got out the club¡K.
I wake the girl up ask her if she want to have breakfast with me. She says ok and we
went down stair for breakfast. I ask her how much I owe her. She told me it's ok I
Guess Mr. Thong had pay for it. So I gave her 2000baht as tip and say bye to her after
Breakfast and I went back up to my room and got diarrhea after that I felt a little bit better.
I guess so far till this point the diarrhea will be the best part of this trip.
Frank Africa, ChimanII,
I think that the thais thought you were a "lay down" or someone who would not question them and just pay for the food. You did the right thing by standing up for yourself, and not let them walk over you. If more people did this we wouldn't have this problem. I would have reviewed the situation as you did, but would look them straight in the eyes, and with a big smile, say "no thankyou." You get the same effect and noone gets bent out of shape.
Pahllus Maximus
10-15-03, 13:21
On Loose Pussy (part II).
Thanks Gettingtang~! and Joe Zop.
I'll experiment and get back to you. However, my girlfriend solved the problem. I stck her on the hotel table, and after banging her pussy, picked her up (light), carried her to bed, on the edge to be exact. lifted her stocking-ed legs over my shoulder, and did her tight little rosebud. Girl #2 was kind enough to fondle and squeeze my balls as I banged girl #1, and turned around and french kissed her whilst having a HUGE orgasm into girl #1's very tight rosebud that was really amazing, as in breathless and eyes watering. I stated slow, but was going into the stem towards the end. She squeezed, and her scphinter control was very good. The other girl is average. I am looking forward to trying Buenos Aires pussy.
I would say girl #1 knows her pussy is loose, and that is why she offers her butt so freely.
A ball massage certainly makes for an intense pop, as does delaying. I think that the best is the girl on top facing away so her hands are free to massage you balls, or missionary if she can reach around. A second girl is useful so you can bang and kiss one whilst having total sensory overload in youur groin as the second girl plays. Two girls feels good, and a certain rivalry develops between them to out do each other. It is nice to wake up, rub hard dick into one, and the other wakes up and starts to join in. A big morning shot (testosterone etc charges up overnight) then a nice massage after coming, a little nap, and have breakfast brought in to bed to share with two giggling girls.
I love this place. Next time I'm going to rent an apartment, do my sabbatical work, and have a couple of girls for instant fun whenever I feel like it.
LOS - now look at who's smilin :-)))))))
Hi getsome,
for the BKK airport you can go to the barber shop, HJ and BJ available ( right now with the APEC I don't know if it's still working), the Spa at the Amari airport hotel is providing FS but it's expensive, don't remember exactly the price, but you can stay 2 to 3 hours for the same price ( same Apec story than the previous one).
For the Taiwan airport ( apologies in advance), buy a tube of KY and go to the toilet........
Have fun
Yoyo
Hey guys,
Can anyone tell me if we are supposed to tip the waitresses at the gogo bars and at general restaurants in Bangkok? I tipped one girl and she looked at me like I was crazy. The next gogo I went to I did not tip and the waiteress asked me where her tip was? I try to ask the locals about tipping and none understood what I was asking.
I am back in the states now and had two different bar girls e-mailing me telling me the miss me and want to keep in touch. Did anyone else experience this? It will be interesting to see if they will give me some hard luck story a month or two from now asking for money. Over there I don't know what is real and what is fantasy. In a previous post I was talking about experiences I had at Kings at Patpong. Before I left I double checked it was actually Kings Castle.
yoyohpw97> The barber shop? excellent news! Can you give more details about the location, terminal 1 or 2, after you have checked in or before etc. Thanks for your help.
Meaty
GettingTang
10-17-03, 10:11
Big Thailand internet warning to all:
Sure I might get in a bit of a hissy from time to time with some of you mongers, but this is one I think we will all agree on.
I have heard much talk on these board about hitting up the dating websites and or Yahoo messenger for setting up dates with "regular" girls while in Thailand. I have been lying low these past few weeks and have been experimenting with these recommended activities. This is what my take on the situation and findings are:
I would venture a guess, that a good 80-85% of the girls you can IM from Yahoo, are scam artists. Some even work the internet scams full time.
Over the past week, I have struck up easily obtained conversations via yahoo messenger, with a good 120 or so girls. I used various screen names and posted my real photo. I was amazed at how easy it was to pull on these girls heart strings. Or so I thought. After conversing with a good 12 girls or so, I noticed an all too familiar pattern. First they reel you in, by letting you know how warm and sincere they are, then they assure you they want a nice farang guy as a fiend, maybe for dating etc. Then they almost hypnotically trap you with an unprecedented amount of GUILT! Then comes the subtle requests for money and things. Usually you're offering it to them before you know it.
I nailed 5 girls red handed, three of them forgot which IM page they were typing in and reveled all. Another was talking back and fourth with one of her girl friends, she was telling her, how much she thought she could get out of me. Another I caught booking dates like an airline reservation, yet she was in love with me, lol. Turned out she was in love with three of us all at once. My three different screen names. All followed almost the same generic pattern!
There are suckers out there that will send these girls an incredible amount of money. I had three phone numbers on one of the girls. She spoke good English, so after catching her, I decided to give her a call. She was sooooooooo embarrassed that I caught her red handed, at first she refused to talk to me. I harassed her by calling all her phone numbers, including her work number. All I wanted was some good inside info. She finally conceded, and openly admitted to me, that at her secretary, government job, she netted $150 per month, for full time work. She told me that over the past three months, she was pulling $800-$1200 working the net and agreeing to see farangs for dates once they came to Bangkok. She said about 1/3 of all Farangs, once worked over for a week or so, will almost always offer money and or gifts!
Shocking and shameful! Not so much for the girls, but for you, or whoever you are, dumb farangs!
She went on to tell, me it was like the 49er gold rush days in the USA, (her exact words of comparison) thousands of young Thai girls were getting set up to work these types of scams. Preying on dumb, gullable farangs!
She even told me of some bar girls who quit working the bars because they ended up making as much money without having sex, just a date every now and then and working the web full time!
Now all this being said, if you don't believe me, go try for yourself. Now, I'm not saying a nice true date can't be found, but trust me you won't know it when you find it and they are far and few between!
It's amazing the extent and stories these girls use to get you. They are amazing. I know the drill for the bar girls and freelancers, I have heard it all. But these girls working the web are unbelievable. Innocent, shy little things, all suckering you in.
Oh, and one more thing, if you send ANY of these girls money before your departure to Bangkok. 99.9% chance you will never even meet them. At least if you make them wait until you arrive, you might get a dinner date out of it. Some of these girls are booking, two three four dates per day!
GETTINGTANG~!
The Traveler
10-17-03, 19:04
GettingTang
I totally agree with you, there is a lot of scam. I also use Yahoo Messenger to collect phone numbers in the dozens, some give them easily (to quick for my taste), some have to be talked up to do so.
Two of my so called students already asked for money. No surprise for me. I would never send any to them, cause I haven't received any service till now. Remember, payment depends on performance. No performance, no money.
Some must be real students who are looking for a sugar-daddy, they know too much about the different universities, diplomas and so on. Since I am no sugar daddy I will do them once and walk.
But there also some diamonds between all those faked students. I will date them and see how things develop. All I can loose is the money for a second ticket for the cinema or one more meal at the restaurant, but I get a nice companion in exchange.
Major rule is to ignore the request for money and tell them that things will improve after she will be your gf. If she isn't interested in you anymore then you know what she was up to. If she is still interested try to get what you are looking for and pay after you have received it.
Could you provide the handle of the girls you had caught so I can check if I got them on my list ? Won't mention anything about you and keep my knowledge secret. Just curious. LOL
Please post them here or send them to YAHOO_FAKES@hotmail.com
It's a game and everybody who plays it has to know the rules.
Have fun
Meaty,
As I remember the Barber or Massage center is located in the T1, at the left of the check in gate and up the escalator, I don't remember the price there, unfortunately, was there a year and half ago.
I am passing by BKK in 9 days and will have a try, so will can give you some real update.
Yoyo
LoveLOS,
I update my infos regarding the 3 hours package at the Amari airport hotel, I told you 1650 bath, but I think it's more around 1000 bath( a year ago). Of course, for this price, you can use the gymnasium, sport equipements and the sauna as much as you want, if you have the time.......
yoyo
JuiceSpike
10-18-03, 14:09
Internet Thai Girls
GettingTang is right. There are a lot of scammers out there in the internet. But not the girls are. Some girls are really looking for a bf or husband and some are looking for a good time. On my last trip (got back last Sunday) I was dating 3 girls, 2 were repeats from my last trip and one was a new one. All knew I was seeing the other girls but did not know all the details. Being straight with all of them helped to avoid any dramas but I had major scheduling problems. All girls worked during the day and were avaialble only in the evening. Two offered to take days off to spend more time with me but I declined because it would have tied me up too much. One girl turned out to be a good friend and I will stay in touch with her because she understood what I was doing (having fun) and did not make any demands. By the way, it is a good idea for frequent visitors to Thailand to have some friends there in case you have any problems. This girl offered me help with anything including staying at her condo if I wanted to escape the hotel room and the other girls....
I ditched one girl who was absolutely great in bed but got too demanding towards the end of my trip but she was right. I did not treat her very well and she felt neglected. The new girl turned out to be a lot of fun. 29 years (nice looking and very clean and fresh) old and had a good job with Japanese company. She is looking for a husband. She told me she was looking for Farang because her only Thai bf of 8 years left her for another woman and sweared never to date another Thai guy. I told her that Farangs are serious butterflies and that she should be careful. She knew I was seeing 2 other girls and was OK with it as long as I decided to pick one for my next trip. This woman had only been with 1 guy, her ex bf. Well, I was the 2nd guy and it was the best sex I have had in a long time. It took some work to convince her to fuck but it was well worth it. Talk about tight pussy... she head it. And she was a natural at bj and sex but the first time we did it she was a little in shock and stared at me the whole time. After that, she let go and was great. She was very candid and straight forward about everything and knew very well the reputation Thai women have around the world. She did not play games and never asked for money or even hinted at money. I paid for everything when we went out and for her taxis... I did not give any of the 3 girls money but I did buy a skirt for one of them and she looked very nice in it.
Then there was this other internet girl who came over to my hotel in the morning and we talked for about 5 minutes then we were fucking. At the end of it, I gave her 1,000bt because I knew what she was doing and she made a joke about the money saying " Thanks for the taxi money....". Then this other scam artist who was only 20 who met me at the Nana sky train station and first thing out her mouth was "can we go to Emporium to buy me a bra?" I told her to go to hell and I left her standing looking very confused...She was a very cute scammer... There were a couples of other internet girls that after talking to them on the phone I decided not to meet them.
Getting "regular" girls can be a lot of fun but some are just out to scam a sucker. With some of these girls it is a game and they have no rules as long as they get what they want. You make the rules for them. Most of the internet girls are looking for a Farang to take care of them and/or for a quick buck. Some are legit in trying to meet a nice guy to marry to.
Thai women are the biggest liars and scammers in the world. They will sound real and come up with amazing stories about themselves and their intentions. DO NOT BELIEVE anything. Believe nothing unless they can prove it with facts. I always tell them that they can tell me anything they want but I will not believe anything. Usually when they realize this they level with me and they become real and reveal all their little tricks and reasons for doing what they do. It takes about 3 levels of "lies" to get to the real truth with a Thai woman. Level 1 "the lie" Level 2 "a lie of the lie" Level 3 : "the truth but always has a little lie in it which is Ok because you know what it is."
Also, clubs in BKk have a few good looking freelancers that pretend they are not. They will tell you they have never done this before but they need urgent money for car payment, etc. Some of these girls are really nice looking and will fool anybody about what they really do. Some also have real jobs and they figure that some dumbs ass will pay them to have fun. Some are worth the 2 to 4K they ask for. Some will go for free but later hit you for money for a loan or some busllshit. I saw this Thai couple at Q bar one night. She (very nice looking) would go after Farang guys and he would watch her hook them up and even talk to the guys introducing himself as her friend... Good team work.
You can have "free" sex but beware of the scams and complications. With most of the internet girls the 3 Fs applies just as well as with bar girls. No exceptions.
Anyway, just my opinions and experiences in the city of sluts: Bang-kok.
juice.
Frankly, I find it hilarious that mongers could get all up in arms over scamming TGs on the net, given that most guys are busy pretending they might be boyfriend material when they're really after getting laid by a non-pro. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I like your approach, Juice. It's pretty much the same one I always use when I'm there, in that I never pretend to be anything other than someone who's there for a while, who's looking for company during that time, who will leave and go home, and that will be that. Particularly in longer-term hookups, it helps a great deal in keeping emotional static to a minimum.
I agree with you Juice. I'm here right now and pretty much follow the same routine. It's funny what people consider free because you always end up paying in the end. You can't believe a word they say but it's amazing how many do. Probably 90% of the guys here think they've got a "legit" thing going on. Oh well, Better for me.
The Traveler
10-19-03, 12:06
Joe Zop
Nobody is getting up in arms as far as I can see, just reporting. I don't blame the girls for what they do. As I said, it's a game and everybody who plays it got to know the rules. Therefor I like if my opponents in this game have a smart approach. I love to be challenged :-)
azanluver
You are right, in most cases FREE will be more expensive in the end. My reasons to hook up with these girls might be differentr from others. I don't really care if it will be cheaper or not. I had hundreds of freelancers, bar and gogo girls and also a few regular ones for almost 20yrs. So the scene is getting a bit old to me. Regular girls - no scammers - usually come with less or at least different kind of problems in the long run. They have a life and targets for it. Also their requests, if there are any, are so much different from the working girls.
My main reason is the explore and conquer feeling. The whole experience is somewhat different too. As I said, I love to be challenged.
Have fun
JuiceSpike
10-19-03, 15:00
Traveller,
It's also the "challenge" that appeals to me to meet "regular" girls. They can be a lot of fun and they know they have a lot of competition from other "regular" girls and from industry girls. Some pretend not to know about the hookers but they know about it and they know that is very easy for a man to get laid in BKK. This ussually leads to a little competitive spirit in their part and they will do their best to please you. I'm also getting a little bored with girls in the biz unless they are very beautiful or have something kinky to offer... By the way, many regular girls are fun because some have little experience with kinky sex and once you teach them a little they will not leave you alone.
Planning my next trip to BKK for December. This time I will first take a vacation in Samui then head to BKK. Last trip I was too busy fucking around that I missed a relaxed time alone... Thailand is still the best place to vacation for a single guy or for those of you who are married playing with dissaster.
juice.
I know, Traveler, just a small bit of hyperbole. We all know that in LOS "love" means take care of, means pay for everything and everyone down to the most distant cousin and most random whim, and the full-time job of many TGs is setting up farangs to fit into that scenario. They're far from the only ones who do it, they're just probably the best anywhere in the world. It's just no surprise at all that the net would be part of the equation -- the sophistication of TGs in that regard has grown quite dramatically in the past couple of years, and we've all seem what they can do with cell phones (often while simultaneously banging us) and SMS.
It just strikes me funny that we've got a bunch of mongers scheming, as always, to nail "regular girls" and now a rash of warnings that these "regular girls" may also be scheming. Well, duh! Again, more power to those of you who are willing to sort through things, more power to the TGs who manage to redirect currency into their pockets this way, but it is an amusing scenario -- akin to warnings that, gasp, there might not actually be a sick water buffalo.
People have been pretending online to be something or someone they're not every since Compuserve chat rooms back in the early 80s (at $12.50 an hour at night at 300baud) and people have been getting fooled ever since.
JuiceSpike
10-19-03, 16:38
Joe Zop,
The "duh" factor that many of the interner girls are out to scam guys is nothing new of course. The point here is to report our experiences and how these events may affect some inexperienced guys. As you said, the schemming takes part on both sides, we want pussy and a good time, they want financial assistance or real love (a rare thing though with internet girls). Nothing new, nothig shocking about it.
What is improtant is to warn the new guys on how good these girls are at the game. They are very convinsing and some guys in here will get burned if they are not aware of this. That's all.
juice.
Juice: One question: what kind of kink do you like? Any tips appreciated as I am kinda kinked out at this stage. I should be in Korat at the end of January and I would like to put your tips into practice then
Traveler Tom
10-20-03, 14:11
Quite right to give a warning but do not let us lose our sense of humour
How many Punters on this board can put their hands on their heart and say that they have been 100% straight with their girls?!
This is what it is all about - give and take; the only difference is that sophistication is creeping in and the taking is now a bit more two-way, although I would never query as to how smart the ladies from the LOS are.
I think it is great - keeps us on our toes and makes the game much more fun - wait a few more years and whilst you are having a 'massage' your old lady could be watching the proceedings on the computer via the internet at home (unless, of course, you have paid the 'supplement' to have it switched off).
High-tech is changing the picture in what was Third World Countries - the Mobile Phone is a pre-requisite for the girls, the Internet is catching up and I reckon that we will all have to step up a gear to keep ahead - our John Thomas was our main asset - they have several more now!
Keep smiling and your eyes open!
Traveler, I think that's a great idea about sharing lists of IM girls who have tried to scam. I have a couple of friends on ICQ and Yahoo, and we have just been regular friends. They haven't asked for anything from me. But it would be interesting to know if they had asked for things from one of you guys. If you get a list, please share. I think it would be helpful, as we can know who is playing the game. Thanks.
JuiceSpike
10-21-03, 03:32
Skinless,
Use your imagination...
juice
As a reminder.
A group of us from the board are having a get together in Bangkok for some fun and bullshit on the 7th of November. We are going to get together at 7:30 that night, probably at the new place call Privilege or at the Blue Wave Bar that is below the Privilege, both are located on Sukhumvit Road, between Soi 2 and Soi 4, for a few drinks and a little bull shit before hitting the streets, for a night of fun! If you are intested, please e-mail me at jimhart69@hotmail.com Hope to see you!
"Samus Aran would like everyone to know that he is tired of competing with guys who treat Thai women like human beings, and that in his opinion they deserve no more respect than a used condom. "
It doesn't matter how many times I read this, I always break out laughing! :) Samus, are you going to post your travelling exploits in Singapore? I'm sure it'd be a blast to read! Take care!
I’ve just come back from a fortnight in Thailand and I’ve mixed feelings about it. I stayed 5 nights in Bangkok and 9 in Phuket. In Bangkok I was at the Nana Hotel, very inexpensive and fairly decent, with great breakfast service. The thing I didn’t like at all was the fact that I was almost certainly the youngest guest in the whole hotel (I’ll be 30 next December), there was a whole bunch of not-very-young Americans who liked to have the girl around at breakfast and stay with her during the whole day, I don’t call this just long time, but very very long time, too bloody long in fact. I really don’t like to have the girl around at breakfast, but I could see that the majority of these girls just headed for the older guys even if ugly because they knew they could get more money out of them. Consequently, for some action I just headed for Patpong with its poor massage parlours, there too I was disappointed, it’s not that fun to fuck a girl and hear her saying: “something for me?” or “tip for the lady?”, you just lose the poetry. Besides, they don’t come cheap, the mamasan gets probably nearly all the money and the girls beg you to give them some, but it puts your dick off if it happens while you’re actually doing it, I’m afraid. They don’t even speak good English, you can argue that the fact that I’m not Anglophone (I’m Italian) made my understanding difficult, but somehow I doubt it, I noticed they are just very good at counting, money that is. I tried a go-go bar in Nana Plaza as well, but their goal seemed more to make you drink than have sex with the very young girls who were dancing with numbers on, I’m not really interested in drinking, if I wanted to drink I’d go with my mates into a pub and I’d enjoy it a million times more, I assure you. I’m used to going to Switzerland brothels and I like it because it’s more straightforward, you get in the bar, you drink but the girls are just moderately pushy, you choose your girl and go and have fun with her. I hated when they started to make me drink or make me pay the lady drinks, the bar fine and all the bloody circus, not to mention the dreadfully poor quality of the girls and the untidiness of the places (I won’t compare these facts with Switzerland because there’s no point). Then I headed for Phuket and I had the time of my life, seriously, the time of my life. God bless all the freelance girls in Phuket, it was fantastic.
So, my conclusion is Bangkok for shopping and Phuket for fucking. I know probably many of you will laugh at this, but I just thought that after reading the posts in the forum I could go to Bangkok and make the most of it, you know, like an connoisseur. You just don’t do that, no matter how good looking you are (modestly, I am), these people: mamasans, papasans, working girls, tuk tuk men, taxi drivers, they will just do anything they can to empty your pockets and their service is often far from good. This wants to be a warning for first timers, don’t think that because you’ve been reading this or others forum concerning sex in Bangkok you can go there and make the law. That was my mistake in Bangkok; but this for me happened in Phuket, it seemed like I had been there dozens of times, maybe I was just unfortunate in Bangkok and very lucky in Phuket, but in any case in my next holidays in Thailand I will still spend some days in the capital because is a thriving city, huge shopping malls and enticing open markets, but I’ll head somewhere else for the sex scene.
If you want to help a fellow Italian on how to have fun in Bangkok, just keep in touch.
Bye.
Alistair,
Bangkok can be a very large city and harder for guys who don't really know their way around. I would suggest next time you try going to Soi Cowboy and check things out there. About places for massage many places can be found that offer much better service than Patpong. I see you made it to Phuket but it appears that Pattaya was not a stop on this trip. If you liked Phuket I think you would love Pattaya, so next trip maybe spend a few days there. I have been to Thailand many times, this year a third to half the year has been spent in Thailand and the more I come the less time I spend in Bangkok. That is not to say that the service in Bangkok is poor, because it can be great but the level of work need to know the city is more than other places in Thailand. Below is one gem I found at NEP a few months ago.
Sexreview
Traveler Tom
10-22-03, 10:14
I do not think that BKK is any different to any capital city.
Wherever you go in the world the big cities are always the most difficult to find your way around and until you are familiar with the way things work there is always a very good chance of your being disillusioned - it is much tougher. The moment you move away, be it to Phuket, Pattaya, Ko Samui or even Chaing Mai the pressure is off and life is slower - they will still be after your greenbacks but, probably, in a slightly more gentle way.
Anyway you cannot fight the system, BKK is what it is and it is truly a great city if one is mongering or just soaking up its vibrant atmosphere. Getting used to its sexual dimension does take time but one must remember that the players are there for the money (and it is VERY competitive); move away from this industry sector and the whole picture changes.
2nd time round is always better!
Alistair,
You should try the Eden, it is good service and a fantastic experience! Also if you are looking for a bar where the girls are not pushy, try the Thermae and pick the one you like.
I strongly suggest that you read all the posts in the forum concerning the place you are going to be visiting, So many good information.
I hope you will have better luck next time. Of course Thailand is not Switzerland but the prices are also different.
Alistair
You are dead right about Nana. I really don't like that place at all and usually stay away from it. In fact, I rarely go down that area anymore except for an occasional trip to Eden or Thermae's. It's true about the old men. The girls seem to know to go right after the old guys. I think they're more willing to spend more money. I usually stay at a hotel away from there, close to skytrain. I find it a little better and it's always just a short trip away. Thermae's will be your best bet for freelancers and the beer bars on Sukhumvit soi 22(I think?) are less of a hassle. Anyway, Bkk isn't everything for everyone but I still enjoy it.
Silly Puppy
10-22-03, 16:03
I'll be in BKK staying in Novotel hotel on Srinakarin road for 3 days only. As a novice in this hunting game and not much time to search I desperately need your recommendations. What is the cost and where to have fun in general?
Alistair,
I'll join in the long list of responses to your post. I understand why you wouldn't like Nana. When I first got here I went into the bars and found them terribly expensive. As for the 'old guy' factor, well I'm younger than the average sex tourist, but I am always encouraged when I see young girls with old guys - gives me hope for the future! Don't begrudge the old fellows their fun - there are few places in the world where that happens, and also remember, we'll all be in their shoes very soon.
Now when I do Nana I stick to freelancers. Thermae was recommended below, but I've never managed to even get inside it - I always get picked up on the street strolling around the Nana area. Earlier this evening I short timed a very cute thin freelancer for 1500 - expensive yes but it included very deep/rough bareback anal. I thought I was done for the night but I strolled through later and another even cuter girl picked me up and offered the same thing for 1000. So back to the hotel for more. Again bareback, again, full on intense backdoor action. Normally I pay 500 for this type of thing in Nana, but these girls were way above average appearance-wise, for freelancers. As much as I try to find better alternative countries, Thailand never ceases to amaze me.
The Traveler
10-22-03, 23:14
SexReview
Can you provide some more info about the girl on your last pic (wsg027.jpg) like name, bar, mobile phone no. ? She looks familiar to me. Any additional info could help to recall. Thanks
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