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01-01-03, 02:00
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mikieco
01-02-03, 06:14
I plan to be in Bangkok in March. I would like to take a girl I met in the Soi Seven Beer Garden to Koh Sammui for about 4 days and 4 nights. What would be the going rate to pay her per day? I heard that things have changed on the island and bringing my own girl is a better plan even though it will cost more.

ericmc318
01-02-03, 07:04
What's up. I work for an adult video company in the States and we will be in Bangkok. We will be shooting a video there and was wondering, should we setup the girls before we go (if so can anyone help us out. we will pay.) or wait till we get there. Need a response as soon as possible. Thanks.

BraBreaking
01-02-03, 08:51
Originally posted by MEATMAN
Sup Fellas I'm back!


Oh,.......Rumor is that the Eden Club does not want blacks in. PLEASE anybody with info on this say it isn't so!,say it isn't so!! I had my heart set on going there.

Z get your ass back in here!!

MEATMAN

Rest assured. You'll be gladly accepted by Marc and his ladies at Eden. Try your fantasy and give us a feedback with the name/no. of the girls.

Mrice
01-02-03, 16:30
Originally posted by tonydasnake
I caught up to her she was on a busy street corner full of people but I asked for her number, got it, and scored that night.

Holy Cow Tony - you asked a strange girl in Bangkok for her phone number, and she gave it to you? And then you met her later and you actually got to have sex with her?

Omigod, you studly dude.

Mrice
01-02-03, 16:46
Originally posted by ericmc318
What's up. I work for an adult video company in the States and we will be in Bangkok. We will be shooting a video there and was wondering, should we setup the girls before we go (if so can anyone help us out. we will pay.) or wait till we get there. Need a response as soon as possible. Thanks.

eric, are you talking about shooting an adult video with thai girls starring, or are u bringing your own talent?

Most thai girls are extremely shy when it comes to being filmed. I think it may be hard to find willing participants for an adult movie.

Also, if you have no experience in thailand, I would be very careful about undertaking those kinds of business enterprises here with the local girls. For all it's smiles on the surface, the LOS has a very dark side - from the corruption of police and government officials to the mafia types themselves. The sex trade is guarded very jealously by those who control it, and I would be careful about moving in for a piece of it.

wildman
01-02-03, 20:33
Originally posted by ericmc318
What's up. I work for an adult video company in the States and we will be in Bangkok. We will be shooting a video there and was wondering, should we setup the girls before we go (if so can anyone help us out. we will pay.) or wait till we get there. Need a response as soon as possible. Thanks.

I'll be more direct than mrice:

Stay home. Thailand doesn't need this crap.

Or, bring it on, and let us know what Bang Kwang prison looks like from your cell.

Again, stay home.

wildman

Dana
01-02-03, 22:21
Just spent another week in Bangkok, and had a great time. Snuck away from the Thai girlfriend (heh heh)!

Picked up a really beautiful girl at a travel agency, asked her out(was actually surprised she said yes!) and took her to Hard Rock cafe that night. It was weird because she didn't even hold my hand all night, and when I put my arm around her she acted kind of scared or something. I thought the night was really gonna be a waste, so I was bumming out big time. The band was great for a top 40 group, so at least I kind of enjoyed that. After a while I was just kinda looking around the bar, and wishing the night was over. The bar finally closed and we went to get a taxi. I figured I'd at least give it one shot, so I pulled her close and started to kiss her. In about a second she was really going wild and grinding all over me! I couldn't believe it because she was so cool and kinda distant all night. Anyway, it was all good after that, and I seriously had the best night of sex in my entire life with her. I was getting so jaded getting laid by all these Bargirl ho's, but this "normal Thai girl" was the best one ever. It was like she saved up 20 years of being a good girl and let it all out at once. God Bless Thailand! I probably should've called her the next day, but I thought New Years was really gonna rock. Hopefully I can meet more of these "normal girls" on future trips.

Also, I stayed at the Royal Asia hotel at the end of Soi 8 and they were very guest friendly. No problems at all, and the staff was really cool. The manager even shook my hand when I checked in!!!

Unfortunately, New Year's Eve was dull. Went to the big bars in Soi Cowboy, but wasn't impressed by any girls I saw there, so headed over to Nana. I made quick friends with this really cool Austrailian dude, and we just went from bar to bar all night. The girls were cool, but barfines were 1000 baht that night, so we thought that was just B.S. and just got drunk. Checked out Nana disco after that, but it was just a bunch of old hags and ugly go-go rejects as far as I could tell.

I met some dude on the way home that was all pissed off because he paid a 1000 baht barfine, and then the girl just f*cked him quickly and took off. He said all the Nana girls just wanna do short time now. That sucks for him, but you really can't blame them. It's a business after all.

Thanks to Progman for sharing some information, because tonight I went to Orchid Towers in SIngapore and picked up a Thai girl there too. I haggled a good low price, and she was a real sweet girl with a playboy perfect body so it was worth it I guess. I walked around the bars for about 3 hours before I even saw one girl worth taking. I won't go back there because the girls are about half as good looking as the ones in Bangkok at three times the price. Do yourself a favor and don't waste your time and money if you are thinking about coming to Singapore for sex.
I hope at least part of this post helps somebody.

Oh, and I agree with Wildman on the adult video thing in Bangkok. Stay home. Aren't there enough dumb ho's in L.A. to keep you guys busy? The pretty girls aren't gonna let you film them anyway because they make more money than you do. I know a few girls who won't even let customers take photos of them with their clothes on! They are terrified now of winding up on the internet.

Apac Boy
01-03-03, 01:44
eric,
u fly me over and i'll get u the girls...

or come during mid march and u can pay me to film my orgy night.

i have to wear a mask though...i might want to become President one day.

tapioca

JuiceSpike
01-03-03, 02:59
Eric,
If you are caught with a porno vid getting out of Thailand or getting into the US you are in deep shit. Good luck.

juice.

TonydaSnake
01-03-03, 08:05
mrice,

You always sound like you are suprised that many people go to Thailand with less knowledge about the Bangkok scene than you have.

Please don't worry another moment about it, I am trying to help those people and NOT impress you!

Take chances and talk to the girls anywhere, anytime, anyplace was my advice, and has been my advice several times. Also, your chances dramatically improve if a Thai girl returns and holds your stare (interest) in her. Stupid? Obvious? Probably so, but what isn't that's talked about here. Consider what Dana said about his date with a regular girl.

"It was weird because she didn't even hold my hand all night, and when I put my arm around her she acted kind of scared or something. I thought the night was really gonna be a waste, so I was bumming out big time. The band was great for a top 40 group, so at least I kind of enjoyed that. After a while I was just kinda looking around the bar, and wishing the night was over. "

There was nothing weird about any of this behavior with even the most basic understanding of Thai culture. But I understand Dana's reactions as well as the girls, and they are both wiser for the experience. No harm, no foul...

My own definition of a stud is a guy who has never paid for sex because, Holy Cow!!!, he is getting the goods he wants, and from whom and when he wants it...sorry, that's not me my friend...

fatdick
01-03-03, 19:14
I will be back In BKK around 25.1.03. Is anyone out there curious to party with other guy that shares the hobby and try 3-somes (mfm) and 4-somes (mfmf ??) . If so give me a note at :fatdick_2003@yahoo.es
Can anyone write about hhis recent experiences with the young cuties at the Mandarin bar (NEP), upper level???

wildman
01-03-03, 20:00
mrice,

Bear in mind that Tonydasnake lived in Thailand, while he was a teenager (over 20 years ago), and has been there once since. That, of course qualifies him as an 'expert', if you take HIS word for it.

Seems he has an advanced degree in psychic divination, too, as he appears to have great insight into everybody else's motivations.

Also, he seems to READ a lot about Thailand, and has no problem dispensing his 'expert' advice, for free.

Worth EVERY cent.

wildman

BassGod
01-03-03, 21:32
>My own definition of a stud is a guy who has never paid for sex because, Holy Cow!!!, he is >getting the goods he wants, and from whom and when he wants it...sorry, that's not me my >friend...

tonydasnake,

you always pay for it, one way or another.

TonydaSnake
01-03-03, 22:52
Wildman,

How interesting you would come to mrice's rescue whether he asked for it or not, and especially since I wasn't attacking him but clarifying what I said.

As far as your last two post, they contains no information at all since in one you deride me and in another you tell yet another person to "stay away" from Bangkok.

I am one again thankful that Thailand has you defending its borders.

Now let's quickly look at your poor reasoning over my "expertise." Based on living in Thailand for two years, having had three Thai girlfrinds (one in Thailand two in USA) and been with two dozen different Thai Ho's am I an expert? Funny, you rant and rave but never define the term "expert" which I never used. But would a newbie or first timer consider me an expert? It is possible that someone who knows next to nothing about Thailand would view me as knowledgable. That would be neither right nor wrong but merely their perspective. Why don't you list a few of the things I have said that are dangerously wrong so people here have some clue as what you are babbling about.

Gladiator
01-04-03, 02:25
Originally posted by ericmc318
What's up. I work for an adult video company in the States and we will be in Bangkok. We will be shooting a video there and was wondering, should we setup the girls before we go (if so can anyone help us out. we will pay.) or wait till we get there. Need a response as soon as possible. Thanks.

There's no need to set up the girls in advance, I think it's better to pick them up when you arrive so that you can check out the chicks yourselves.

The best idea is to recruit them in go-go bars, where you can examine their bodies in detail, that way you can see well what you get. Explain clearly to them what you want them to do in front of the camera to avoid missunderstandings and negotiate a rate for it, it's true that some of them may be shy and refuse the offer, but many others will be ready to do it for the right rate: Thai hos do ANYTHING for money (little money, generally). There's no short supply of pussy in BKK, so you should be able to find a few suitable candidates in a matter of hours.

As you probably know porno is illegal in Thailand, and so is prostitution, even though you don't need to walk too far to come across a go-go bar full of prostitutes and with a hardcore porno movie on the TV screen. In any case, do your best so that the corrupted Thai police don't find out what you're doing -or what you've done.

There's plenty of fresh talent in BKK, so go for it and good luck!

wildman
01-04-03, 03:07
To quote you, tonydasnake,

"Based on living in Thailand for two years, having had three Thai girlfrinds (one in Thailand two in USA) and been with two dozen different Thai Ho's am I an expert?"

You seem to have a lot of time on your hands. Jonesing for 'sum o-ree-n-ul poon-tang', are ya? Not enough K-AMPS in red-neck land?

Too bad you had the opportunity to be in Thailand when things were less polluted, and don't now appreciate it. I was there, too, in the early eighties, though as an adult, and you may take my word for it: things HAVE changed, and are changing ever more quickly.

You have asserted that I was trying to 'hurt' this forum, and made a bunch of armchair psychological babbles about my motives, and those of others who would take issue with your posts. (Yeah, I read the TJ forum, too. You and obsequious Firedick can sniff each other's butts, but it IS a public forum...). Meanwhile, you hold forth on all manner of advice to the 'newbies', most of which I doubt you've experienced first-hand.

I don't think you've said anything particularly dangerous, especially since you don't have much credibility. Calling Thai girls "Ho"s is just the level of character to be found here. I just get tired of all the hot air. You're a carpetbagger, and you couldn't care less about Thailand or Thai prople, as long as they're available when you've saved enough tip money to go on a f*ck-fest. The worst thing is that you encourage others to look at Thailand in the same light.

So, I don't see anything wrong with your posts, except that they don't contain anything likely to be helpful. They kind of read like regurgitated trip reports of old, tired info from The Single Male, mixed with homey contrived insights. They certainly don't do justice to a beautiful country, or its people.

As for 'information' contained in my posts, a lot of what I know just isn't appropriate here. Do I want to sit in my favorite restaurant, with an intelligent Thai woman, and listen to gutter-mouth sex-tourists describe their 'scores' in detail? No. I DID share a number of out-of-the-way places for well-behaved humans to discover exquisite Thai girls, and interesting diversions, but those posts are erased. And they will remain erased.

So do I want to 'damage' this forum? Nope, I'd just like to balance the books a bit. Maybe Thailand will end up with some of its charm intact, instead of becoming a cesspool of drunken louts, with whom you are so comfortably familiar.

wildman

(BTW - the word 'wh*re' is a BANNED word here. Isn't 'ho' just the Ebonic equivalent? One of the reasons for adle.Z getting the boot (see Banned User List, 1/3/03) was the using of disguised banned words, as well as 'denigrating' women...just a thought...Yeah, Firedick, way to go, indeed...)

wildman
01-04-03, 03:26
Before anyone cries foul, let me clarify:

1) I am in favor of anyone flying, driving, swimming or walking anywhere to have consensual sex with women, beautiful or ugly, young (over 18, of course), or old, for ANY reason or consideration.

2) I am against loutish, disrespectful behavior.
3) I am against intentionally damaging girls physically or emotionally.
4) I am against violating other countries' cultural norms, or in any way contributing to a lack of welcome for foreigners (us).

5) I am in favor of considering the effects of your actions and their immediate AND long-term consequences, i.e., acting responsibly.

Ok?

wildman

Dick Johnson
01-04-03, 05:11
Originally posted by tonydasnake
[i

My own definition of a stud is a guy who has never paid for sex because, Holy Cow!!!, he is getting the goods he wants, and from whom and when he wants it...sorry, that's not me my friend... [/i]

I disagree. A stud is a stud whether he pays or not. A cheap bastard is a cheap bastard, the fact the he never pays does not make him a stud. A stud who decides to pay one day does he cease to be a stud? No.

Dick J-the stud.

TonydaSnake
01-04-03, 06:45
DJ,

I have no problem with your definition of stud, or anyone else's. I think this is a case where we can all have a little leeway and there is no need to pull out websters, agreed?

Wildman,

Let me continue to show how what a travesty of logic your posts are. My posts have stayed within the Bangkok forum (not Hatyai, CM or elsewhere), and have anwered with information within the sukhumvit sex corridor (soi 0 to 33). I have posted a few times in Pattaya when there were general threads but not specifics about the Pattaya girls being asked for. My posts might help, if anyone, first timers or persons who can only go to Bangkok for short trips. Sometimes I'll "hang" with the big boys because it is enjoyable, and not to disrespect the pecking order in your mind...

quotes Wildman:

"o-ree-n-ul poon-tang', are ya? Not enough K-AMPS in red-neck land?"

Wildman is against disrespectful behavior he says? I infer from this that I am a red neck since I come from red neck land.

quotes Wildman:

"I don't think you've said anything particularly dangerous, especially since you don't have much credibility. Calling Thai girls "Ho"s is just the level of character to be found here. I just get tired of all the hot air. You're a carpetbagger, and you couldn't care less about Thailand or Thai prople, as long as they're available when you've saved enough tip money to go on a f*ck-fest. The worst thing is that you encourage others to look at Thailand in the same light."

Wildman never plays psychologist, it is ALWAYS someone else. How much credibility does one need to answer basic questions about the sex scene on Sukhumvit Wildman? Why don't you set some standards, Herr Doktor Wildman, and maybe we'll all agree to follow them?

quotes Wildman:

"So, I don't see anything wrong with your posts, except that they don't contain anything likely to be helpful. They kind of read like regurgitated trip reports of old, tired info from The Single Male, mixed with homey contrived insights. They certainly don't do justice to a beautiful country, or its people."

Wildman is supposedly enamored with the beauty of Thailand and its people. Too bad we never see this because he is too intent on spewing hatred. And it doesn't take a psychologist to see that. In my opinion the lowest forms of human life are those who hate, and than attempt to weave it into a form that is pleasant to look at. Wildman you are a pathetic fool, and a hateful one at that...


sorry about the use of "Ho" what is the proper WSG term?

TonydaSnake
01-04-03, 08:46
Yes Wildman, I remember the Thailand of 20 years ago, and how it was different. But unlike you I am not a "Miniver Cheevy" like in the Edwin Arlington Robinson Poem of that name.

Feel free to browse this poem and read it, I think you will relate to Miniver Cheevy. He is portrayed as a pathetic individual who lives in the past and hates the present, not because the past was better, but rather because of his inability to cope with the present...

Thailand of 20 years ago was gone, well, 20 years ago.

wildman
01-04-03, 18:37
"sorry about the use of "Ho" what is the proper WSG term?"

This is an example of what I mean.

Never mind that "Ho" is an extremely disrespectful word. Just worry about WHICH disrespectful word is acceptable on WSG. Are you starting to get it? Tonydasanke, and a few others, see Thai women as undeserving of consideration or respect. They are "Hos", to be dismissed as such, and used as objects, without human qualities. Red neck IS as red neck DOES.

And then everybody is surprised that these girls sometimes treat us the same way - multiple contributing boyfriends, lies, etc. What is surprising to me, is that there are ANY TGs who treat us well (there are).

Gosh, I certainly am impressed with the use of literary figures to illustrate an erroneous conclusion about MY personality. I guess that's what is meant by 'weaving it into a form that is pleasant to look at'. Guess that makes you an EDUCATED red neck, huh? And it is typical of the sociopath to be devoid of introspection, to take no responsibility for his OWN actions/attitudes, but to try to deflect attention toward others.

Personally, I couldn't care less what helpful info Tony provides about his 'sex corridor'. Kind of one-dimensional, and smells of wannabeism, but it is of course anybody's right to post what they want to post. Nor do I care about his motives. We all derive our self-worth from diverse sources. I merely exercise the same right to express MY thoughts, in the hope that responsible people will help insure that there remains something in Thailand worth posting about.

No, Tony, I don't hate anyone. And I cope well with my version of the present. I DO rather dislike some aspects of change, particularly the loss of emphasis on personal responsibility, gentility, and honesty. Quoting poetry isn't a replacement.

BTW, does that get you laid? :)

I mean, in the end, it's ALL about YOU, isn't it?

wildman

wildman
01-04-03, 18:51
From "Bangkok Hotels":

"At the risk of invoking Wildman's wrath for answering a simple question..."

Very good, tony, you're hearing footsteps, eh? (to use a football analogy)

Tony, dragging this all over the WSG is probably NOT welcome, and I propose we give it up for now. Have your last word, and let's agree to disagree. I'm sure we will have an opportunity to discuss it in person, at some point, maybe when you make your next trip.

wildman

TonydaSnake
01-04-03, 19:22
Good enough Wildman,

My last word is a quick trip down memory lane:

20 years ago

Russia was the Soviet Union
The iron curtain divided Europe
Aparthied segregated South Africa
Vietnam was blasted by 30 years of War
Brazil was a military dictatorship

Thailand? Thailand was starting to explode as a world travel destination!

So speak great things about Thailand, we ALL want to hear that. But forgive us for not all wanting to cry with you.

That's all. Peace

MeatMan
01-04-03, 21:23
Hey fellas..How far is Bangkok to Pattaya? One guy said 2 hours another says 3 hours it doesn't look that far away! Hell it looks like a hop,skip and a jump.

GWillie
01-04-03, 22:45
Meatman,

If traffic isn't too bad, a taxi can make it from the airport to Pattaya in a little under 2 hours. This as a best case scenario.

Apac Boy
01-04-03, 22:48
2 hrs...
1.8 hrs if he goes really fast and no traffic
3 hrs if there's traffic getting out of bangkok

tapioca
www.tapiocatravels.com

jackson, this won't be a competitor to this site whatsoever...it'll just be a site for my pics and some trip reports...don't ban me please...

Dick Johnson
01-05-03, 09:25
Good looking site.

(You won't get into trouble using those cartoon characters?)

Now where's the beef?

ManonsanBoy
01-06-03, 00:54
What is the best deal to get from Bangkok airport to Pattaya? I heard about the Thai Airways Limousines. I want to go with TGF so no problems with language but I am arriving mid morning. Are there competitors for this?

Thanks in advance.

SexReview
01-06-03, 06:31
Originally posted by manonsanboy
What is the best deal to get from Bangkok airport to Pattaya? I heard about the Thai Airways Limousines. I want to go with TGF so no problems with language but I am arriving mid morning. Are there competitors for this?

Thanks in advance.

You will find several other limo companies working from the airport but the cost is all about the same, why change two save only a few hundred baht if you are happy now. If a regular taxi will work for you, try this trick that I found works very well. Walk upstairs to the arrival area of the airport when you see a nice new taxi pull up just walk over to the driver dropping of his fare and make a deal with him. Since the driver doesn't pay the airport fee they will make deals, better to go back with a fare for half price than go empty or wait in the taxi pool for a few hours and pay a fee. I'm back in Bangkok in a few days, counting the hours and this is how I will get my taxi.

Freeler
01-06-03, 08:36
Manonsanboy

This is my third try at posting this reply, Korat internet can be a b*tch!

Goto:

http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/limousine/fares.htm#Schedule

for ThaiLimousine Taxi's and BUSES (B200 per person), good for mid-morning arrivals! Take the bus and they will drop you off at their office on Pattaya3rdRoad, near PattayaNorthRoad. You probably will have to take a motorcycle from there or hop on one of few (on that road) songthaews.

Even cheaper: Take any from out of town aircon bus to Morchit2, the NothernBusTerminal for B10, walk to the Departure area and buy a B95 (or so) ticket to Pattaya. Once in Pattaya take a songtheaw to the beach B20. Don't talk to the driver, and tell your TGF to be quiet too, or the price WILL go up!

Hope this helps...

BassGod
01-06-03, 21:13
Freeler,

I don't mean to contradict you but it's my understanding that all the south bound busses depart fron Ekami (southern buss station) I've caught the 90 Baht Pattaya buss from there many times.

Amjeck
01-06-03, 23:19
Do any of you guys who live in Bangkok know about becomming a male escort for rich women in Thailand. From my understanding, some women pay for western men in Bangkok. If true, this would be a way to make a living while enjoying the fruits of this wonderful country!

SexReview
01-07-03, 00:22
Originally posted by amjeck
From my understanding, some women pay for western men in Bangkok. If true, this would be a way to make a living while enjoying the fruits of this wonderful country!

It you are looking to get yourself deported and banned from the country give it a try. That is after the rest of us stop laughing.

Amjeck
01-07-03, 00:54
Yah, I would have to agree that it is rather funny to assume it to be true. When I was last in Bangkok,however, I saw a classified ad in the Bangkok Post which had jobs for western men willing to become escorts for women. At the time I thought "yah right!" I am just curious if any of the expats living in Thailand have heard of this sort of thing.

TonydaSnake
01-07-03, 02:10
amjeck,

Let em all laugh, the bunch of sheep. They like to gang up, it empowers them. You see, not one gave you a usful reply but they had no problem trashing your post. But see you feel like a fool now? And they feel better about themselves for a moment.

The truth is, anything is possible, well, except for most of the ugly, fat, and pompous expats I've met in Thailand. All they can do is give boring lectures on the cultural superiority of Thai society, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'd put my tip money on a bet that SOME foreigner is making some money off of well to do Thai women.

The way to approach it would to cautiously network your way up till you reach the higher end bars and hotels in Bangkok. Are there gigolos in Thailand? Who knows? Not the posters who have answered so far since if they knew, a simple YES or NO would suffice.

TonydaSnake
01-07-03, 03:31
I've decided to retire from posting in the Thailand forum since it is true anyone can give the level of info I give to newbies and I'm tired of confrontations with Wildman. He's a bully, I'm a bully hater and never have been able to back down to one...

But there are a ton of good guys here, and I feel some credits are due:

Most Intelligent poster - Joe_zop

Best overall information - Freeler

Most Youthful exuberance - Dana

All around good guy - Tapioca

Most righteous vigilante - Wildman

Most confrontational - Tonydasnake

LoveLOS
01-07-03, 05:53
Hi,

Wanted to introduce myself.

New to this forum, but have been on other Thailand oriented forums for some time.

I have been the the land of smiles four times and have a close relative happily married to a Thai girl who is innocent of the sex scene. They live and work in Bangkok. Thus I have a working knowledge and appreciation of Thai society, food, etc, but I have been unable to indulge in the sex industry very much due to my travelling companion. That will not always be the case, which is why I have subscribed.

LOS = Land of Smiles thus my username = LoveLOS

Dana
01-07-03, 06:04
tondasnake,
I'm sorry to hear about anyone retiring from this board because it's been the primary source of information for nearly all my trips to Thailand. I've been there too many times to count now, but my first trip was to Patong Beach in Phuket, and without the info and helpful advice from board members here, I would've been quite lost.

I was really sad to see Z go also, because even though he was repetative, he got me thinking about what I was getting myself into with these bargirls. Now I've got a "normal" Thai girl to hang with whenever I go back, and that's even better.

Anyway, thanks for the "youthful exhuberence" credit! I've got plenty of that, and I really do love Thailand for the girls and many other things as well. Peace.

Shamas
01-07-03, 06:16
Tonydasnake

Shamas O'Dognasty here, sorry to hear that you are going to deny us your worldy words of monger wisdom. I'm planning a monger vacation to BKK in mid April and have been reading your posting. Your really good and it's a shame that your bowing out.

I post extensively on the Kentucky and Costa Rica boards and have mongered all over the world for over 40 years. I have quite a few years experience in the far East but that was many years ago. If you have time, how about dropping me an email , (removed my email address, found yours).

Thanks

Shamas O"Dognasty

Too all the rest of you guys, Hi and you'll be hearing more from me as I prepare for my trip.

SO'D

Freeler
01-07-03, 09:28
BassGod,

From the Airport it is easier to take the bus from Morchit2.
Many buses to the SE depart from Morchit2 aswell, like the ones to Rayong, Chonburi and Satahip...
You can also board buses to Aranyaphratet on Morchit2.
When you're traveling from the SE to BKK it is wise to check where the bus will terminate, so you don't end up in a totally unfamiliar place in the middle of the night.

When you're in your Sukhumvit hotel it is easier to take the Ekamai route.


Tonydasnake,

Too bad you're leaving... I liked you views on things both on and off topic.

Danke!

AsiaTraveler2
01-07-03, 13:32
Tonydasnake;

Don't let any poster chase you off the board. Just disregard the flames. I think everyone on the board can make their own judgements on your posts, so you don't need to defend yourself. Just ignore it. The only negative that I have had is the use of negative\degrading statements about the girls. I think most of them are nice people, who just have to make the best of their situation. Anyone who takes the time to help newbies is fine in my book. Keep on posting!

AsiaTraveler2
01-07-03, 13:47
amjeck;

On the surface, your question does sound funny .. but .. I have seen many of the escort services advertisements and websites. They do have both female and male escorts. Go to any of the websites, and they are available. Not sure which way the male escorts swing, since that's not my thing, but it's very obvious someone is using their services. Whether a farang can break into this line of work is questionable, but you never know. The world is full of things that on the surface seem ridiculous. You never know until you research it. Let's face it .. there's a market for anything and everything.

Ludwick
01-07-03, 14:00
To anyone whos interested

Some of the best places to go in bkk are;

Holly wood disco in ratchida;heaps of young girls mostly uni students doing some tricks on the side for play money,also dance fever and most other large thai discos have plenty to offer if you can handle the loud music.

Another good spot if you could be botherd is get a taxi down to samut prakarn and check out some of the large techs down there.Usually no foriegners and wait till about 12 o clock when all the girls are drunk and just wait or make the approaches yourself,
Always had a good success rate at these places places and are a bit more refreshing compared to the old sukhimvit scene.

Also sukhimvit soi 24 called club forte, a very big rich thai scene and quite expensive but the chicks there are stunning and do the best bar top dancing routine in bkk.Dont be dissapointed if you dont pick up but if you can pay the 20.000 baht membership fee you will be treated like royalty and can expect to walk out of there with a great prize.This is an expensive place for thai standards but you get what you pay for ,but not always. This place will really get your motor running and is a good start before making your way to other places.

There are so many places in bkk that most people dont know about so dont be afraid if its a thai scene as falangs are welcome at these places.

Dick Johnson
01-07-03, 17:55
ludwick, are you sure you walk away with a prize afetr the 20Kbaht membership? The prize is not a dining set or something?

Tap, why am I the meanest looking monster on your site ?:D

MondaysChilde
01-07-03, 20:03
Ludwick - Club Forte - Some questions -

What is included in membership?

How long does it last?

How good is the english spoken in there?

do they have a web site?

Thanks for the interesting tip.

MondaysChilde

Shamas
01-09-03, 06:41
MondaysChilde
Just left you a note on the CM side.

Gentlemen,

I'm preparing for my first trip to BKK. I have had some 'side bar' conversations with Tonydasnake and I'd like to thank him openly for his great help and most informative messages.

I have read all of the posting available and that really took some time. I also am in the process of reading the Stickmanbangkok.

I have a very high expectation of mongering myself to a pulp. If I do, life is good.

Shamas

Ludwick
01-09-03, 08:35
Originally posted by MondaysChilde
Ludwick - Club Forte - Some questions -

What is included in membership?

How long does it last?

How good is the english spoken in there?

do they have a web site?

Thanks for the interesting tip.

MondaysChilde To Mc

Membership entitles you to twenty bottles of the either jw black label or chivas or some other type of liquor in that price range.

I think the membership lasts as long as your twenty bottles last (im not sure on that one im not a member)

Im not sure a bout the english spoken there as I speak thai but have noticed a few foriegners there getting by in english as alot of the lasses are uni students and speak some english.

If you like a girl behind the bar you can buy her a drink for about 250 baht and she will talk to you for a while.You cant take the bar girls out as they are employed to dance and serve drinks allnight. They have special outside employees who take care of the members and can take out or arrange some after hours activity, but very expensive.

No web site

I hope this answers your questions

Ludwick
01-09-03, 08:39
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
ludwick, are you sure you walk away with a prize afetr the 20Kbaht membership? The prize is not a dining set or something?

Tap, why am I the meanest looking monster on your site ?:D To Dj

It used to be a dining set, now it's a do it yourself lobotimy kit...

PurpleNGold
01-09-03, 11:22
2 questions:

1) Is short time a one pop deal? Or does the girl stay with you for a certain amount of time?

2) Is anal sex common? How much extra is it?

Skinless
01-09-03, 11:35
2 questions:

1) Is short time a one pop deal? Or does the girl stay with you for a certain amount of time? See question 8 on FAQs

2) Is anal sex common? How much extra is it? See question 31 on FAQs

AsiaTraveler2
01-09-03, 13:04
purplengold;

My personal take on short time vs overnighter, is that there's alot of gray in between. You simply negotiate. It could be one pop .. it could be several .. it could be hours .. etc. etc. etc. I have had a girl for 2 hours, 4 hours, overnight. Every girl is different and you can pretty much get anything you are looking for.

Vin
01-09-03, 20:29
Hi, guys! Thanks for all the tips. I'm going to LOS in late june, and will stay for 2 or 3 weeks. Bangkok for sure, probably Pattaya. But would also like to do some snorkeling in between sessions. Is Pattaya the place for that, or should I go somewhere else? The girls being the #1 priority, of course...

MrGhostRider
01-10-03, 16:08
Hey guys,

Need some advice, I have a bit of homework to do, I am throwing a bachelor bash for my best pal at the end of the month, and as best man, I've selected BKK as the destination of choice.

Its not that big of a crew, 4 guys, but I want to be able to take everyone to quite an upscale place.

Any suggestion? Price is not an object, but cleanliness, service and beauty is ...

Thanks

Dick Johnson
01-10-03, 22:18
No, seriously ludwick. Based on my experiences the bar top dancers you talked about are rarely available. You post seems to IMPLY, though not state, that by paying the 20000baht membership, you walk out with a bar top dancer. Now I've mongered on the high end as well as the low end. And have spent cash on such memberships. And forgive me, but the Thai girls like my look. But from what I gathered, it is unlikely one would walk away with a bar top dancer just by joining membership. They are very much in demand and many have boyfriends or sugardaddies already.

DJ

So the question is, do YOU know if one walks away with a grand prize? Or a consolation prize, a less attractive chick they use as a substitute?

LoveLOS
01-11-03, 07:19
Originally posted by vin
But would also like to do some snorkeling in between sessions. Is Pattaya the place for that, or should I go somewhere else? The girls being the #1 priority, of course... As I diver, I have been to Pattaya, and there is snorkeling if you take an all-day excursion (BYO equipment - or rent before you go on excursion - theirs is sh!t). However, after one trip the thrill is gone.

You can go to Phuckett and the diving/snorkeling is great. There is a forum on this site for that destination!

Happy Hunting!
LoveLOS

Ludwick
01-12-03, 03:43
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
No, seriously ludwick. Based on my experiences the bar top dancers you talked about are rarely available. You post seems to IMPLY, though not state, that by paying the 20000baht membership, you walk out with a bar top dancer. Now I've mongered on the high end as well as the low end. And have spent cash on such memberships. And forgive me, but the Thai girls like my look. But from what I gathered, it is unlikely one would walk away with a bar top dancer just by joining membership. They are very much in demand and many have boyfriends or sugardaddies already.

DJ

So the question is, do YOU know if one walks away with a grand prize? Or a consolation prize, a less attractive chick they use as a substitute? To Dj

Im sorry but I dont think I implied that you could have your way with a bar top dancer although I have bought drinks for them which you pay for the privelige and found out a bit more about their lifestyle.You are probably right that most of these girls have boyfriends or sugar daddys but not all.Im sure if these girls were given enough finincial incentive to go with you they probably would,but it would take more than just a night and a couple of drinks to get one.

I spoke to a thai regular monger there once who sais that he waits until the bar closes and the girls finish work to make his move and has been more than succesful on a number of occasions.This guy is pretty well to do and is a member so I guess he has a bit of influence from being one.

There are other quite stunning girls there employed as hostesses to which you can also arrange other ativities,but again very expensive.

Next time Im in bkk maybe we could get together and swap some info and do the rounds of our favoutite haunts.Im always up for some action along with some good expat mongering mates.

SexReview
01-12-03, 10:04
Originally posted by agoodfella
Hey guys,

Need some advice, I have a bit of homework to do, I am throwing a bachelor bash for my best pal at the end of the month, and as best man, I've selected BKK as the destination of choice.

Its not that big of a crew, 4 guys, but I want to be able to take everyone to quite an upscale place.

Any suggestion? Price is not an object, but cleanliness, service and beauty is ...

Thanks

AGOODFELLA,

I'm in Bangkok right now have been for about four days. Have you thought about using Eden Club and the king size room that they have? Eden has many really wild girls and the service is great. Check out the web site found on this board.
Sexreview

Dick Johnson
01-12-03, 12:54
Originally posted by ludwick

Also sukhimvit soi 24 called club forte, a very big rich thai scene and quite expensive but the chicks there are stunning and do the best bar top dancing routine in bkk.Dont be dissapointed if you dont pick up but if you can pay the 20.000 baht membership fee you will be treated like royalty and can expect to walk out of there with a great prize.


Evidence of your 'implication'..
Just so people don't say I make unfounded accusations..
or that your "self lobotomizing kit is necessary"..

I have enough mongering friends already:)
(But you can join us in mid march if things are cool.)

Dick J - The man who's always right ;-)

Ludwick
01-13-03, 02:46
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
Evidence of your 'implication'..
Just so people don't say I make unfounded accusations..
or that your "self lobotomizing kit is necessary"..

I have enough mongering friends already:)
(But you can join us in mid march if things are cool.)

Dick J - The man who's always right ;-) To Dj

If you like a girl behind the bar you can buy her a drink for about 250 baht and she will talk to you for a while.You can't take the bar girls out as they are employed to dance and serve drinks all night.They have special outside employees who take care of the members and can take out and arrange some after hours activity,but very expensive...

This statement was in response to mondayschilde questions about club forte.I think in my first post I didnt make it clear on the rules of the bar girls so I may have been misinterpreted on that one DJ .So you are probably right that I Implied ,though not intentionally that the bar girls were available by simply being a member.However I believe that being a member would give you a greater chance of picking up one of these honeys compared to the regular punter.

Im not a member but I do have the phone numbers of two of these girls which I didnt pursue as I had to return to oz ,but upun my return to thighland will try my luck and report to you the outcome.Im sure these girls would not have given me their number if they were not interested in making some extra income on the side.so I will see.

From sometimes incorrect ;LUDWICK

Skinless
01-13-03, 03:29
I hope Seydlitz reappears to put some sense back into this thread. Let's see: you are going to pay top $$ to get some painted up semi literate Thai peasant so you can make believe she is movie star and/or Harvard MBA material. They might look like that but, as Seydlitz pointed out, they yak on their (vibrating) mobiles all day long, they watch kiddy stuff on the TV and, though often good at boom boom, they are not the world's greatest conversationalists. If you are going to go high class, go high class: get some educated import working in your own country, pay her through the nose and relish the experience. But if you come to a 3rd world country, know what you are buying.

The high end Thai mongers probably have more money than most of us will ever see. Simple math: big pie but most get only the crumbs, so there is a lot more for the guys on the inside track. And htye feed some of that to their sweeties.

My reasoning is this: give the money to providers who need and value it. Go low end.

DJ: I like your "no charming" post in the China ad section. Very funny

JuiceSpike
01-13-03, 04:47
ludwick,
i have been reading your posts for a week and have kept my fingers quiet until now. so far you seem like a complete moron for believing that more money is going to get you better pussy in thailand. sure, you might get a better looking face or a hooker that speaks better english, or the illusion of being more important for paying more... what you will get is paid pussy, not much different from a high priced go-go girl or university student looking for extra cash. i have been to this so called exclusive clubs with a thai friend and is the same thing as the go-go bar just more exclusive looking and obviously more refine girls but the same pussy. waste of money...

on my last trip (october/nov) to bangkok i was invited to the premier of the thai movie "goodman town" by one of the producers and i sat at a table with the cast and production crew for dinner before the premier. the female star of the movie (thai and beautiful) was there and we had a good chat about high end hookers of which she knows a couple of girls that are soaps stars that will fuck a farang for lots of dollars and not baht. through out the conversation she basically told that to fuck one of these girls you need a special contact (herself?) to make it happen. thai society considers hookers high and low end the worst of the social ladder and if a tv or movie star was fucking a thai or farang for money and if her peers found out, she would loose it all. as far as the expensive clubs goes, those girls are special only for where they work but considered the same as a go-go bar hooker just making more money... now, minor wives and sugar daddies are an entirely different story but these girls don't fuck directly for money as a hooker does and you would never find them in "exclusive" clubs either...

i have also been to a so called "japanese only" club (got in with a japanese friend) and the girls there as well as the ones from the "exclusive" clubs where not so much better looking than other hookers elswhere...

my point? don't waste your money or think you are getting something special... find a way to hook up to a "real" girl that is beautiful to support her (and she will be expensive) and you will only then be fucking something special in thailand.

i will be in bangkok next week (my 5th trip in 11 months) and although i'm fascinated with the whole scene there i will be mostly doing business...... the novelty is wearing off for me...

skinless,
i see you are getting once again ready for your "heart of darkness" tour.... best of luck and hope you come out alive and with many memories... don't forget to report from the battle field...

juice.

SexReview
01-13-03, 06:51
Originally posted by sexreview
When I was in Bangkok in November I couldn’t help but notice that the sex scene was slower than in past years. It still wasn’t high season and I thought things would get busy in December. I have spoken to a couple friends who have been in Bangkok and they tell me the clubs are hurting because it has been a slow high season.

I have been in Bangkok for a few days now and this is the slowest high season I have ever seen. Spoke with a couple of friends who own bars Nana and Soi Cowboy both said Dec was the worst ever and I guote "it didn't happen this year" (high season). I can tell the other members that things are great here as always and many hungry girls to pick from. Some talk about was but not a big deal. I am off to Pattaya in a few hours.

Ludwick
01-13-03, 07:07
originally posted by juicespike
ludwick,
i have been reading your posts for a week and have kept my fingers quiet until now. so far you seem like a complete moron for believing that more money is going to get you better pussy in thailand. sure, you might get a better looking face or a hooker that speaks better english, or the illusion of being more important for paying more... what you will get is paid pussy, not much different from a high priced go-go girl or university student looking for extra cash. i have been to this so called exclusive clubs with a thai friend and is the same thing as the go-go bar just more exclusive looking and obviously more refine girls but the same pussy. waste of money...

on my last trip (october/nov) to bangkok i was invited to the premier of the thai movie "goodman town" by one of the producers and i sat at a table with the cast and production crew for dinner before the premier. the female star of the movie (thai and beautiful) was there and we had a good chat about high end hookers of which she knows a couple of girls that are soaps stars that will fuck a farang for lots of dollars and not baht. through out the conversation she basically told that to fuck one of these girls you need a special contact (herself?) to make it happen. thai society considers hookers high and low end the worst of the social ladder and if a tv or movie star was fucking a thai or farang for money and if her peers found out, she would loose it all. as far as the expensive clubs goes, those girls are special only for where they work but considered the same as a go-go bar hooker just making more money... now, minor wives and sugar daddies are an entirely different story but these girls don't fuck directly for money as a hooker does and you would never find them in "exclusive" clubs either...

i have also been to a so called "japanese only" club (got in with a japanese friend) and the girls there as well as the ones from the "exclusive" clubs where not so much better looking than other hookers elswhere...

my point? don't waste your money or think you are getting something special... find a way to hook up to a "real" girl that is beautiful to support her (and she will be expensive) and you will only then be fucking something special in thailand.

i will be in bangkok next week (my 5th trip in 11 months) and although i'm fascinated with the whole scene there i will be mostly doing business...... the novelty is wearing off for me...

skinless,
i see you are getting once again ready for your "heart of darkness" tour.... best of luck and hope you come out alive and with many memories... don't forget to report from the battle field...

juice.

to juicespike

lets not get personal on this as i am only giving my opinion and info to anyone who would like to partake in this type of entertainment.alot of punters are sick of the usual scene and would like to explore other oppurtunities in bkk.

i am under no illusion that these girls are any better than some of the other bar girls working round the town and know that usually the only thing better is the place that they work and the clientelle they serve.

it's a nice place to go if you are well to do and would like to impress some friends,but in the end i know pussy is pussy and is usually no different from anywhere else.

i've had normal working girls on several occasions and found them to be quite nice but usually costing you the same money as a bg.most of them are very materialistic and have very little in common with them as far as lifestyle goes and dont think i would look for any long term relationship with one.

i'm just another punter with quite a bit of money to spend and like to indulge in these type of activities at all types of low and high end places.in the end it's just a fantasy i indulge myself in and don't really care if it's true or not.i have fun and the girls have fun and usually no hurt feelings.


another thing is in thai society ,i don't really know how to draw the line as far as hookers go.i've spent about 5 yeras in thailand altogether and it constantly suprises me how easy it is to get normal thai chicks to do extra work on the side so they can keep up with their peers.girls you think wouldnt do such a thing actually do and i know for a fact that it's not their regular line of work.this seems to be acceptable to them as they can carry on their normal line of work and do things on the side without raising suspicion.the last chick i had worked as a accounts manager in the bkk bank and was seriously behind in her car loan repayments.although not directly 'she offered her sexual services in return for a months adavance on her car repayments to which i duly obliged.that night we wined and dined and was driven back to my place where we spent the whole night together in bed.now i don't know how you would label that one,but this agreement is ongoing and have partaken with this arrangement on more than one occasion.i know of other friends having very similar experiences such as this so i dont know what to call this type of arrangement.i mean some would say its a straight out pay for sex prostitute ty[pe thing ,but the fact is the girl quite likes me and probably wouldnt just do it with anyone who had the money to offer,but who knows?so as i said before how do you draw the line on this one.i mean what's a mia noy for that matter.is she a paid hooker or just a paid wife.i dont think thai society is that judgemental on these things as you know all classes of thais partake in this activity.

i would like to hear some comments on this one

JuiceSpike
01-13-03, 15:20
Lydwick,
Where do you draw the line? You decide on this one. I'm somewhat surprised that you have been in Thailand for 5 years and still don't know where you draw the line. Women in Thailand from what I know realize that western men or even rich Thai men will do just about anything to get their pussy. It is "up to you" where to draw the line. Any woman directly fucking you for money or for a car payment will not really "love" you or "respect you" or even “admire you...” She is basically prostituting herself for the car payment which is fine if that's what you want to do but don't think she is anything special or that you have scored big time. I have met this type of chicks there and they are basically a hooker to me.

If your kick is to brag about how much money you have and spend it in "alternative" hookers that's fine too but please don't sound like a complete moron on how interesting your life is by finding these chicks in Bangkok. I have money too and the last thing I would do is throw it away on "high end" hookers because you get the same with change... I have only been to Thailand for 4 times going on my 5th trip and been lucky to meet and experience things there with people I have met at both high and low ends and I can tell you that guys like you is what they are looking for:suckers...

The bar girl fucks for money because they have no other means to make that kind of money because of education, opportunity, etc. The rest do it for fun/hooking (getting away with making the extra cash) or to find a sucker to support their expensive lives in Bangkok.

Indulge impressing yourself... And don't take it personal, it's just my opinion....

juice

Small Smiles
01-14-03, 12:54
Need Tour Guide in Pattaya Beach

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Write, and tell us about yourself.

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SexReview
01-14-03, 13:52
Went to Eden a couple of times last week, Maarc has some hot new girls he has added to his line up. The only problem I had was hard to book because they don't have enough rooms. After waiting about an hour I found out that within a month a new 20 room short time hotel will be opening next to Eden Club which should help things out. I think Eden is really a deal, when you look at the facts, yes 3200 before 2200 or 3800 baht from 2201 to close is a lot of money for Bangkok. But no bar fines, and no room fees, and two true bi girls for 90 minites that provide great service. If you bar fined two girls for 500-600 baht from a go go bar and then tipped 1000-1500 baht you would pasy the same or more than Eden Club. And with Eden you get two girls that really want to be together. I do't know why Edan has gotten a bad rap on this and other boards maybe someone can enlighten me?

Doctor_Skank
01-14-03, 14:18
JuiceSpike and Ludwick...

I think you are both right, about women in general. It is very common for women who don't openly prostitute to do it in some other way and we all take advantage of it...sometimes get used by it (often with our own knowledge)... and in the end it is just "the way of the world". How much you spend pursuing pussy and how you get it and how you like it is your business.

I for one like to hear about alternative sources, especially in a place like Thailand, where "normal" Thai girls seem inaccessible to farangs.

I tend to go for the cheaper solutions, but I've also been happily milked by women before... and the satisfaction was mutual... I think you can sometimes get more out of these "inofficial" prostitute relationships... the GFE experience plus the benefits of repeated sex (more openess to new stuff, etc.)... and in the end it doesn't cost more.

Just gets boring after a while and then the urge to get some "strange" becomes to great... probably best to end at some time because the milking process will never end in this kind of setup.

Skinless
01-14-03, 14:22
Hey sexreview: I was probably one of those guys bad moutihng Eden. You are right: iti s cheap if that is what you are looking for. Ehen I visited, I kept the ladies working for the entire time and just shot my load as the bell sounded. They worked hard for what they got (I tipped well) and they, like me, gave it thei best shot. But I was kinda bored with them stuffing dildoes up their pussies to impress me. It's not really my scene. Also, I think the best thing about Suk/Pattaya etc is talking to other guys (the women are there for reasons other than conversation). Lots of guys in Beergarden etc don't seem to like Eden: too many dildoes in your face etc. matter of taste really and some think the place is tasteless. But, as you point out, it definitely fits a market.

Speaking of which, those bar fines are ridiculous but if the market will bear them.....

I am interested in the lack of tourists. Have the prices for ladies fallen as a result? What is the price range for Pattaya pussy right now?

Dick Johnson
01-14-03, 15:21
HOLD ON A SECOND HERE GUYS!
In the future let's put our Thai women discussion in the board that was created for that and leave the Bangkok board for Bangkok discussions. I know sometimes it is natural as discusions progresses but at least we should make an effort. There are a thousand posts here that should belong in the Thai women section.

Peace.

Dick J

SexReview
01-15-03, 08:15
I am interested in the lack of tourists. Have the prices for ladies fallen as a result? What is the price range for Pattaya pussy right now? [/i][/QUOTE]
I will post in the Pattaya section the answers that you are looking for.

JohnTodd
01-15-03, 08:22
What is the best massage place in Bangkok?
I once went to Barrons, are they still there? What are the current rates? Two years ago I paid 1000 bht for two hours with two hj's.

KidNova
01-15-03, 09:37
Hey people -- going to be in Bangkok tomorrow nite and for the next few days. I'm staying at the Ambassador Hotel and will be doing some *ahem* tourism. I'm not sure if I'll have access to the email but if anyone wants to give it a shot, camp7749@hotmail.com is how to reach me. Otherwise, if you see a short, bald-headed dude with a beard, come say 'hi' and let's troll for trim...

This is my first ever trip to the LOS, so I hope I can find my way. Take care! :-D

KN

Ludwick
01-15-03, 10:22
Originally posted by juicespike
Lydwick,
Where do you draw the line? You decide on this one. I'm somewhat surprised that you have been in Thailand for 5 years and still don't know where you draw the line. Women in Thailand from what I know realize that western men or even rich Thai men will do just about anything to get their pussy. It is "up to you" where to draw the line. Any woman directly fucking you for money or for a car payment will not really "love" you or "respect you" or even “admire you...” She is basically prostituting herself for the car payment which is fine if that's what you want to do but don't think she is anything special or that you have scored big time. I have met this type of chicks there and they are basically a hooker to me.

If your kick is to brag about how much money you have and spend it in "alternative" hookers that's fine too but please don't sound like a complete moron on how interesting your life is by finding these chicks in Bangkok. I have money too and the last thing I would do is throw it away on "high end" hookers because you get the same with change... I have only been to Thailand for 4 times going on my 5th trip and been lucky to meet and experience things there with people I have met at both high and low ends and I can tell you that guys like you is what they are looking for:suckers...

The bar girl fucks for money because they have no other means to make that kind of money because of education, opportunity, etc. The rest do it for fun/hooking (getting away with making the extra cash) or to find a sucker to support their expensive lives in Bangkok.

Indulge impressing yourself... And don't take it personal, it's just my opinion....

juice To juice spike

I don't think I'm a sucker as such as I know excactly whats going on and are prepared to pay for it,so I don't think i'm being sucked in in any way as I am getting what I want and she is getting what she wants.

The suckers are the poor blokes who meet a girl on their two week holiday and upon return home send money back to these women so they don't have to work at their bar jobs,in the meantime the girl keeps working and the SUCKER JUST KEEPS SENDING MONEY.

I dont engage in this type of thing and only pay for play,I speak read and write thai fluently so I don't let too much fly over my head compared to the first time I went to thailand 15 years ago.
(young and dumb and full of cum)

Anyway I'm not looking for love or respect from these women as I don't really care what they think of me as long as I get what I want I'm happy.

Every body has their own thing in life and thats that.I don't really come on to this board to call people names,just to swap info with other mongerers such as myself and to have a good time.

Wishing you well juicespike and hope to hear from you soon.

Ludwick

JuiceSpike
01-15-03, 15:08
Ludwick,
Also wishing you well and enjoy what you got going there...

juice.

SexReview
01-15-03, 21:03
Originally posted by johntodd
What is the best massage place in Bangkok?
I once went to Barrons, are they still there? What are the current rates? Two years ago I paid 1000 bht for two hours with two hj's.

Darlings Massage on Soi 12 is my choice for best in Bangkok. A 90 minute deal complete with two full rounds is 2500 baht. Some others are less but this place has all great girls.

SexReview
01-15-03, 21:05
Originally posted by KidNova
Hey people -- going to be in Bangkok tomorrow nite and for the next few days. I'm staying at the Ambassador Hotel and will be doing some *ahem* tourism. I'm not sure if I'll have access to the email but if anyone wants to give it a shot, camp7749@hotmail.com is how to reach me. Otherwise, if you see a short, bald-headed dude with a beard, come say 'hi' and let's troll for trim...

This is my first ever trip to the LOS, so I hope I can find my way. Take care! :-D

KN
Kid,
Just outside your hotel you will find about eight internet cafe that offer service for 1 baht per minute, enjoy your trip.

AsiaTraveler2
01-16-03, 02:27
Currently in Bangkok ... have a few more days, and I am already thinking about my return date! I usually like the soapies, but I have been on a great run at Soi Cowboy and Nana! 5 straight days and all 8+++++ in the sex department! Life is good! Playschool and Rainbow 1 delivered. Angel Witch was dead. I met a great one in Joe's (hole in the wall, with a one girl stage) in Soi Cowboy. I think that was the name of the bar. Got dragged in. She looked like a sweet shy one ... she was just a complete tigress in the sack! Just a note .. there's a 24 hour massage place across from the Ambassador, called Sabai Sabai. Did not try it .. just good to know it is there. Visited Soi 33. Nice bars, but very different from the other scenes. Visited Pegasus .. high class establishment down around Soi 23. 1,800 baht cover charge and 900 baht lady drinks. Nice place, but the girls were not any better looking than you would find any place else in BKK. Just wanted to check it out. I also tried out a karaoke place .. sorry can't remember the name. 600 baht for each girl you want to spend time with. Take out available also. Beers 90 baht and bottle of whiskey for 2,000 baht. If you just want to have some fun, it is a nice diversion. Set up my own little party. Paid for 4 girls and we had a great time! Hope to have an update later .. if I survive!

Thai-1-on
01-16-03, 06:55
Just came back from my first trip to LOS and had a GREAT time. This board was very helpful, so thanks to all for the insights of good and bad experiences. I just had one bad experience that I want to share at Nana and that was in Sexy Nights near Angel Witch. Bar fined a girl (name sounded like porn) good looking and was expecting a great time. Paid my bar bill and they wouldn't bring back my change, all of a sudden no one speaks english very well. Just kept saying tip, like I would leave a 700 baht tip for a few beers.

Then with this girl grabbing my crotch it's amazing how quickly you are ready to forget and move on. We get to my room and she gets undressed, showers and she's looking very good and I'm harder than chinese arithmetic. Then she says you've got 5 min. When I questioned what the hell is that about, she goes totally off. Screaming at me and just went off. I gave her 1000 baht just to get her the hell out. It wasn't worth it to me to escalate this and be right. Didn't want to put a damper on 2 1/2 weeks of good times.

Just wanted to pass this on and again say thanks for helping my 1st trip to be such a smoker.

Cchadol
01-16-03, 09:32
This question is for an expert who knows bkk very well. I would kike to know the 2 or 3 best up scales massage places . if u can provide name and price range, will appreciate it.

Cchadol
01-16-03, 09:38
Originally posted by adleZ
Kevin:

Soapies in mys opinion are the only way to have a safe and good experience with a Thai girl. They are sensual massage, some nakes Thai girl scrubbing your body with her tits, ass, and pussy. Pretty sensual to me! You will get laid! Soapies are all over Bangkok. The mecca for soapies is on Ratchada Phisek Rd. Hands down, there are more bathtubs and pussy here than anywhere in Bangkok. Prices I am sure are between 1500 up to several thousnad baht for VIP's. But listen to me, dont pay more expecting to get better service. I usually stay with the 1500 to 2000 baht girls. The end result for me is the same. as it will be for you. I dont recommend pulling chics from the GOGO. Barfines, arguing prices, etc... just isnt my style. I want to get in and out and get the chic out of my hair as quickly as possible. The path of least resistance I call it.

adle z
thanks for the info. pls.provide name of top massage places. thanks.

Wantoknow
01-16-03, 19:33
Thanks for the info Asiatraveler2. I'll be in BKK towards the end of March. Definitely will try out Nana Plaza and yes, Joe's Bar in Soi Cowboy. How is her looks? Does she has a great body besides being a tigress in the sack?

Thaipan
01-16-03, 19:59
Originally posted by Wantoknow
Thanks for the info Asiatraveler2. I'll be in BKK towards the end of March. Definitely will try out Nana Plaza and yes, Joe's Bar in Soi Cowboy. How is her looks? Does she has a great body besides being a tigress in the sack?

Nana is a great place to spend some time. Angelwich "usually" has some great girls and is normally quite busy too.

I'm going to be back in March and am counting the days .... 8 weeks today I'll be on the thai flight out of london!

Thaipan

LarryOne
01-17-03, 03:46
Thai-1-on

I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. This is a perfect example of when you have to step up to the plate and stand up for your right. You should have kicked her the hell out of there - sent her on her way w/out any cash! Fucking *****! Who the hell did she think she was. As AdleZ always says you have to ensure that you are in charge! Glad that the rest of the trip was good though.

Up to U, hansum man...

Shamas
01-17-03, 06:45
Thai-1-on
It's hard to fess up your unplesant experiences but a most valuable message to all who read it. Thanks so much, I won't do any business with Sexy Nights @Nana.

I might just live in the MPs.

Shamas

SexReview
01-17-03, 14:22
Originally posted by Thai-1-on
Just came back from my first trip to LOS and had a GREAT time. I just had one bad experience that I want to share at Nana and that was in Sexy Nights near Angel Witch..

Sorry to hear that you had a problem, sometimes things happen. Here's a couple of points to maybe help you if problem again. Don't leave and don't get upset until they give you your correct change. It is a game with the Thais sometimes. If they send the boys over then leave, if you still don't have your money go without stoppng to the Tourist Police. They are really their to help, and you don't need proof because you we not be the first one that they pulled this on. If you have a problem with a girl in your room like she says you have 5 minutes don't do anything with her and tell her you are going to the Momason. Believe me the girls fear her, and the Momasons want you to be happy so you come back. And above all don't let it change your trip. About an hour ago I had a massage girl try to overcharge me in Pattaya, I didn't get mad I just said find no extras and no tip. So for 600 baht I got a soapy body to body massage but no sex. Thats alright with me because 100's of other girls to finish with. I look at it as her lost and not mine.

blah
01-17-03, 19:22
HI Every one!
I have about 6 hours stay over at Bangkok airport for my connecting flight. I am sure I could go out of the airport. Any fun near to the airport. Never been to Bangkok before please e mail me at blahblah2496@yahoo.com. Any Help would be appreceated very much.
Thx allot

Cchadol
01-17-03, 22:08
Originally posted by Samus Aran
Adam0225:

I will help you out.

In my opinion, the area on Ratchada Phisek rd has the greatest abundance of soapies in one area. A massage mecca if you want. Poseidon, Cleopatra, and several others are within walking distance. If you cant get laid or find a suitable soapie girl in this area I suggest that you drop out of the male gene pool.

Samus Aran Sam,
Thanks for ur info. buddy. I haven't been to neither Poseidon nor cleopatra. I heard good things about Poseidon but my taxi drive says cleopatra is not so good. it caters to japanese tourists so price is inflated...
u r rite bro, if there is a great concentration of soapies... i should have fun...

My usual hang out place is Spasso - Hyatt Erawan... some people say girls there are expensive... but since i stay at the hotel, it is convenient. girls want range from 2,000 to 4,000 bahts there.

I tried to hook up w/ young girl at discoclub Hollywood twice... but i was not able to score there... i went there alone.. if i go there in a group, the odds of finding girl may increase

AsiaTraveler2
01-18-03, 03:46
quote

Thanks for the info Asiatraveler2. I'll be in BKK towards the end of March. Definitely will try out Nana Plaza and yes, Joe's Bar in Soi Cowboy. How is her looks? Does she has a great body besides being a tigress in the sack?

Wantoknow;

I would rate her 7/7 on looks and body. We just clicked! Great experience. Just want to emphasize .. the place itself was a dive .. just got lucky there!


adam0225;

Regarding soapies .. Ratchadapisek is the greatest! Poseidon, Cleopatra, Emmanuelle, etc. About 5-6 majors on that road, and several other smaller ones. Top notch, with fish bowls, sideline models, bar and restaurants. In the Sukhumvit area, Plaza Entertainment and Darling are ok.


Update:

Finally tried out the Eden club yesterday. Had a great time. Girls are ok, but looks definitely not up to par with other places. Service was excellent though, and the mirrored ceiling definitely added to the experience. Having 2 girls working every inch of your body is a very cool experience! I would go back again. This is my last day, and I am on the verge of pussy overdose! Not sure what I will do today .. maybe watch a movie .. NOT!

LoveLOS
01-18-03, 07:30
Originally posted by blah
HI Every one!
I have about 6 hours stay over at Bangkok airport for my connecting flight. I am sure I could go out of the airport. Any fun near to the airport. Never been to Bangkok before please e mail me at blahblah2496@yahoo.com. Any Help would be appreceated very much.
Thx allot

Six hours is close for BKK, but probably do-able. By the time you get to the city you have spent at leat 1 -1 1/2 hrs. Take the expressway. Go to a Soapy (see good reports here) and you are out in 1 1/2 hours and head back to the airport... Can you extend you layover to 8 hrs?

I have heard of service at the Airport Amari Hotel. Others may be of help here...

Small Smiles
01-18-03, 09:40
We Need One More Tour Guide for Bangkok and Pattaya Beach

I need to hear from anyone that is experienced as a “Love Tour” guide. My group can pay a good guide $100-USD per day for you to guide our clients.

You must be experienced, resourceful, cautious, and speak good English, speak at least minimal Thai and perhaps speak some Lao. You should be open-minded, and know where/how to find most anything that is legally available in Thailand. (Any experience in Cambodia, plus Vietnamese language skills would of course be a real plus.)

We have one opening left.

Write, and tell us all about yourself.

small_smiles_69@yahoo.com

Knobrm
01-18-03, 13:43
as a frequent singapore visitor I have gone to Batam for fun several times, but never to bangkok. Beg Feb would have opportunity for 2-3 day stopover in BKK on my way to SIN. How do you guys compare thai vs. indo gals i.e is better to use the time with indo's, or do you recommend to play with thais instead? Anybody with good experience of both?

Erik
01-18-03, 23:02
Originally posted by Thai-1-on
Just came back from my first trip to LOS and had a GREAT time. This board was very helpful, so thanks to all for the insights of good and bad experiences. I just had one bad experience that I want to share at Nana and that was in Sexy Nights near Angel Witch. Bar fined a girl (name sounded like porn) good looking and was expecting a great time. Paid my bar bill and they wouldn't bring back my change, all of a sudden no one speaks english very well. Just kept saying tip, like I would leave a 700 baht tip for a few beers.

Then with this girl grabbing my crotch it's amazing how quickly you are ready to forget and move on. We get to my room and she gets undressed, showers and she's looking very good and I'm harder than chinese arithmetic. Then she says you've got 5 min. When I questioned what the hell is that about, she goes totally off. Screaming at me and just went off. I gave her 1000 baht just to get her the hell out. It wasn't worth it to me to escalate this and be right. Didn't want to put a damper on 2 1/2 weeks of good times.

Just wanted to pass this on and again say thanks for helping my 1st trip to be such a smoker.


I suggest that everyone who has a beer in Sexy Nights brings the incident to the knowledge of the staff and the mamasan, so that they know that we do communicatee on internet between us. Let's show solidarity amongst us !

About Angel Witch, just a note of personal opinion : since they have been imitating the show of former Long Gun (soi Cowboy), but still not as erotic as it used to be at Long Gun, this bar has got a wrong atmosphere. Every evening, the bar is packed with men (5 men for 1 girl average), and the girls behaviour has changed dramatically. As they are assured to be bar-fined within 5 minutes, they have become very cold and more money orientated. Even the sweet half indian blood Poo turns you down if you refuse to "bay duay" (= take her out) only after 2 minutes of conversation. No time to lose, she knows she can do 2 ST and 2 LT before the 2am closure if she menages well. My suggestion : let's forget this bar a for a wile, we shall see in a few months...

AsiaTraveler2
01-19-03, 11:54
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Erik
[i]I suggest that everyone who has a beer in Sexy Nights brings the incident to the knowledge of the staff and the mamasan, so that they know that we do communicatee on internet between us. Let's show solidarity amongst us !

About Angel Witch, just a note of personal opinion : since they have been imitating the show of former Long Gun (soi Cowboy), but still not as erotic as it used to be at Long Gun, this bar has got a wrong atmosphere.

Erik;

I agree! talking to the mamasan, will let them know that their reputation is at stake. I also agree that Angel Witch sucks right now. Just spent time there a few nights ago. Only 6 girls left at one point, none very good, and earlier in the evening no personal attention if you did not barfine.

M_Charlus
01-19-03, 12:00
I am interested in a Japanese-style image club kind of place. Usually in Japan they are Japanese-only. If you don't know what I'm talking about, these are play-acting places, with girls dressed up in various kinds of uniforms, like high school for example. Anyone have any experience of this in BK?

AsiaTraveler2
01-19-03, 12:03
Originally posted by knobrm
as a frequent singapore visitor I have gone to Batam for fun several times, but never to bangkok. Beg Feb would have opportunity for 2-3 day stopover in BKK on my way to SIN. How do you guys compare thai vs. indo gals i.e is better to use the time with indo's, or do you recommend to play with thais instead? Anybody with good experience of both?

knobrm;

I have never been to Singapore, but I have been to Thailand, Hong Kong\Macau, Korea, China, Phillipines, and all over the US, and Bangkok is still number 1 in my book. I been a long time reader of this forum, and have always seen the ratings as Bangkok and Phillipines as the 2 top places to go. Singapore usually ends up lower in the rankings. If you have never been to BKK, then you must absolutely go. You will not be disappointed! There are Thai girls .. #1, but you also have mixed Thai\Chinese and girls from Vietnam, Cambodia and other places. The variety in looks, also gives you lots of options. Fair skinned girls working in the top soapies to more traditional SE looks. I love the variety!

Joe Zop
01-19-03, 20:23
Erik: I've gotta say I had a completely different experience than you did at Angel Witch my several times there, the last of which included my final two nights in LOS on Monday/Tuesday of this week. I will readily admit that this is probably because I'm not a regular, and don't spend huge amounts of time in Bangkok on my trips there, but that can also match the situation of a bunch of folks here. I liked the bar's show, bad imitation or not, as it was still something a bit different, and there are some simply gorgeous girls there. I never on any of my visits really went into Angel Witch intending to barfine anyone, so I never worried much about attitude -- but I was never given much of it either. Perhaps this is because I tended to come in a bit later, after the ones using the production-line approach were either gone or occupied, or maybe it's just because I never worried about anyone coming to or going from me -- the great part about LOS is that there's always someone else with a different look and attitude. (Though I'll note my last night I did come in pretty early and barfined quickly, since I had to pack and travel.)

I came in Monday at about 11:00pm or so, sat alone for a few minutes watching the show, and then had one of the regular girls literally drag a new girl over to my table and make her sit down. Confirmation from the two girls and the mamasan that this was her first night working at AW or anywhere else. We talked for a while -- her English is excellent, as she was an account executive for a couple of years in Chaiyaphum -- and I bought both her and the mamasan a drink (then another for her, as she was drinking whiskey and was nervous.) She was charming as well as gorgeous, so I changed my mind about barfining, after we negotiated down from an absurd price (It's her first night! You should pay for the moon!) to the real world I took her long-time.

Let me simply say this this may well have been the most multi-orgasmic woman I've been with, anytime or anywhere. Insatiable, enthusiastic, open to just about anything I suggested, and happily surprised everytime she got off. (I started counting after a while, as each time she came she'd dig her fingernails into whatever she happened to be holding onto, which made for some touchy moments, and we agreed that she hit at least fifteen.) It became a complete joke, albeit one I was happy to keep going with, as one certainly never wants to slow down much with a partner who's really into it. Stayed until I kicked her out late in the morning. I went back the next night and barfined her again to stay with me until I needed to go to the airport and was again very happy with her. (Before we went I had the other girl from the first night explain to her how she got money from drinks, and she quickly switched from whiskey to cola after she found out that she didn't get any money from the former.)

Lucky number 99, her name is Goi (little finger) and she's well worth the effort and the fine. Twenty-three, no kids. Her hair's currently dyed a brownish color, which she said she wants to keep for a while, but she also said she's had a tendency to try different colors. Treat her nice, and get her before she gets jaded, as she's a gem right now. She told me she was rather frightened about dealing with farangs as her roommate's experiences -- also fairly new to the bar but not my type -- haven't been particularly pleasant. But that certainly didn't affect my experience with her, and when I left her she was quite happy with her career choice at the moment.

Just about over my jet lag now, and freezing back here in the states. Boy, ten weeks can go quickly -- sigh.

SuckMeUp
01-20-03, 04:43
I am visiting Bangkok from 19 th Feb to the 21th.Anybody willing to meet up for couple of drinks and bar hopping during that period please reply.

PurpleNGold
01-20-03, 07:48
Well, I've been in BKK for a couple days now, and am really enjoying it. Here's my report so far:

Day 1: Went to Eden Club in the afternoon. It's 1600 Baht/girl, but, DAMN!! I took Na-Oi and another girl (forgot name) back. They're both small and sit on the left of the yellow line (you'll understand what this means when you go :-). Since it was early, I know that I was their first customer of the day, and they were very energetic. I've never had this kind of experience, and figure I'm spoiled for life. To have one girl sucking you like a vacuum cleaner (and swallowing) while the other rims you like there's no tomorrow. Again, DAMN!! Both were great, but Na-Oi was definitely more into it. While I was knocking at her back door, she was looking up at me and smiling and moaning and really seeming to enjoy it a bunch. Not the best looker (6), but definitely worth a visit.

That night, I barfined a girl from G-spot. That bar's definitely got some hotties. This girl, can't remember her name, had an incredible body. About 5', maybe 95 lbs with a natural, firm, beautiful b-c cup. While she was dancing, she kept smiling this big cute smile. After she was done dancing, she came over and I barfined her and took her long time for 2000b. Unfortunately, the rest of the evening was pretty poor. She was incredibly shy and booring in bed, and was all moody the next day. Oh well.

Day 2: Spent day and night with a girl I met on yahoo chat. She's not a pro, and there was no sex (bummer). But, I had a good time and she was fun to talk to and sleep with.

During a short stretch that I had to myself, I went to a barbershop and got the works. I don't know if it's possible to get a date with any of these girls (I tried to get a phone number, but the girl pretended not to understand). Even so, this was so relaxing and fun that I'm sure I'll do it again before I go home. I highly recommend it.

Day 3: Started the evening off early at Darling. Saw Kathy (#34) and Pom (#113). Almost as good as the eden experience with the two ladies working me over to the point that I thought I would just collapse. Kathy has a beautiful face. She looks innocent and very young. Can't think of the movie star she reminds me of. Her body was decent, but there was scarring on her stomach (from a kid?) and her breasts, while large, were too soft. She said she was 31, but I would swear she was early 20's. I chose her because she looked really good in her clothes and she winked at me when I was choosing. Pom was older (Kathy chose her), but so bawdy that she made me laugh a lot. Also, it almost seemed like she was training Kathy sometimes. During my first pop, I was fingering Kathy's bunghole, and she didn't seem to mind. But, they exhausted me in other ways, so I didn't get around to taking that trip :-( Pom promised me her own back door on my next visit.

That night, I hung out in Soi Cowboy, hopping from bar to bar for a while. It was pretty good. The show where the ladies are all painted (forgot which bar) was awesome. Would've barfined one of the dancers (great body and pretty face). But, couldn't make eye contact as she left the stage. Unfortunately, shortly after that show, something happened because all the naked girls left the stage in a hurry and were replaced by a few girls in bikinis. I guess there was a police 'raid' in progress. Anyway, after that, all the bars in the cowboy were pretty much dead.

One interesting thing happened. I ordered a coke in one of the bars and put the 20 baht change in the hand of the waitress (a short, pudgy, very young looking girl who said she was 24, but couldn't have been over 20) Definitely not a bar-finer. Anyway, I didn't think much of it, but shortly, she came back with a pen and paper and began chatting to me about teaching me Thai. She was very friendly, and I had a good time asking her how to say different things. She would write them down for me, and then help me until I could pronounce them.

After the Cowboy, I took a taxi down to Nana. It was late, and there wasn't much going on. Ended up going home alone :-(

Anyway, this is long, and I'm paying for the connection by the minute. I'll post more later.

PurpleNGold
01-20-03, 07:54
Any WSG'ers want to meet up for a few drinks and story swapping? My e-mail is purplengold123@yahoo.com

AsiaTraveler2
01-20-03, 10:24
[QUOTE]Originally posted by m_charlus
[i]I am interested in a Japanese-style image club kind of place. Usually in Japan they are Japanese-only. If you don't know what I'm talking about, these are play-acting places, with girls dressed up in various kinds of uniforms, like high school for example. Anyone have any experience of this in BK?

m_charlus;

I know Eden club does that type of stuff. They have a website, so you can e-mail in advance to see if that's what you want. It's not at the quality level you will find in Japan though. Just very simple costumes. No special rooms to add to the fantasy.

Wantoknow
01-20-03, 20:38
Hi Asiatraveler2,

Thanks. Do you know where are the Cambodia and Lao girls concentrate at? Outside Nana Plaza? Are they mostly SW or can you find them at Angel disco in Nana Hotel?

Have already booked a room at Majestic Suites for March. LOS here I come!!!!! Can't wait.

Wantoknow
01-21-03, 00:54
Are there any places where ladies available for sex in Chinatown in BKK? I speak Chinese and am wondering if there are some Chinese-Thai women to be had there?

AsiaTraveler2
01-21-03, 03:46
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wantoknow
Thanks. Do you know where are the Cambodia and Lao girls concentrate at? Outside Nana Plaza? Are they mostly SW or can you find them at Angel disco in Nana Hotel?

Wantoknow;
Not really an expert on this. I met some in one of the smaller bars in Soi Cowboy. It was toward the end of the lane, on the left hand side. Sorry, but I can't recall the name of the bar.

AsiaTraveler2
01-21-03, 03:51
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wantoknow
Are there any places where ladies available for sex in Chinatown in BKK? I speak Chinese and am wondering if there are some Chinese-Thai women to be had there?

Wantoknow;
Not sure about Chinatown, bu I met a very nice Chinese-Thai girl in Soi Cowboy. She was one of the GRO's at one of the bars. Not sure if she is still there, since that was about 6 months ago, on a prior visit. If you walk down Soi Cowboy, there are many girls standing outside in front of the bars. You should be able to spot the Chinese-Thai women. Not sure how many of them actually speak Chinese, since I believe most of them were born in Thailand.

Apac Boy
01-21-03, 11:54
in soi cowboy, i've only spoke mandarin to one gurl....i thought she was a katoey actually...his/her mandarin wasn't all dat bad actually..passable.

it was one of the smaller bars..

tapioca

Thaipan
01-21-03, 13:42
Good report Joe Zop, I'll be in AW in March and will look out for Goi!

Thaipan

Thaipan
01-21-03, 13:44
Originally posted by Wantoknow
Are there any places where ladies available for sex in Chinatown in BKK? I speak Chinese and am wondering if there are some Chinese-Thai women to be had there?

Angel Disco for sure and Thermae.

Thaipan

Thaipan
01-21-03, 13:49
Glad to hear thet you liked your trip to Eden Asiatraveler2, I was there in August and will be revisiting again in March! And it can't come soon enough!

Thaipan

Wantoknow
01-21-03, 18:51
Thanks Taipan. Do you have any experience with the girls at Grace Hotel in BKK? I heard that they have big busted girls there. But others have said they are old and ugly?!

Taodan
01-22-03, 00:40
Just a little note:
While I was at Nana hotel, one man ,around 60 yrs that works there, asked me if I wanted to go to a massage parlor. I said "yes" and asked him "where is the place". He told me he knew a good place and offered to take me there. I asked him "what is the name of the place", he said "Monalisa". I told him "I want to go to Annie" he said "that place is no good". So I refused to go with him to Monalisa and soon he changed his attitude. From being friendly to a little unhappy. I later found out that had I gone with him, Monalisa has to pay him a commission. So be careful of the offer from the old man, guys.

AsiaTraveler2
01-22-03, 00:59
taodan;

Any of the touts\taxi drivers that offer to take you to a "nice" massage parlor are doing so, because they get commissioned. Standard procedure. They also make commissions taking you to any of the tourist traps.

Apac Boy
01-22-03, 06:26
taodan,
why did u say Annie's when ur already at Nana Hotel?
u know it's about a 4 min. walk from Nana right?

tapioca

Taodan
01-22-03, 07:15
Originally posted by tapioca
taodan,
why did u say Annie's when ur already at Nana Hotel?
u know it's about a 4 min. walk from Nana right?

tapioca

Tapioca,
At that time I didn't know that Annie's was that close because I was a newbie in BKK

ManonsanBoy
01-22-03, 23:22
Hey guys

I have 2 situations involving LOS airport. 1 is a 9pm-1 am lay over at BKK airport and another a 7 am-7 pm lay over at same airport. Want some action both times.

Any action close to airport. The other situation is probably easier as I can go to one of the places intown. But wrong time. Suggestions. Thanks.

AsiaTraveler2
01-23-03, 02:09
[QUOTE]Originally posted by manonsanboy
[i]Hey guys

I have 2 situations involving LOS airport. 1 is a 9pm-1 am lay over at BKK airport and another a 7 am-7 pm lay over at same airport. Want some action both times.

The 1st situation only allows for the Airport massage facility. Never tried it before, but my understanding is that HJ and massage is available.

The 2nd situation is very easy. Yes timing could be better, but there are options. There are many massage places that offer both massage and HJ, and most are open from 8:00am. There is a massage place on the lobby level of the Ambassador Hotel. Only two 7's in the place, but both offered HJ's. One did a full body to body oil massage but was pricey .. 2,000 baht. Could not resist it though. Massage itself was only 600 baht. There's also a place called Sabai Sabai across from the Ambassador Hotel. It's across from the Seafood restaurant down a lane. Might be tough to spot, but just ask one of the taxi drivers out there if you can't find it. You can also go to the bangkok tonight site and take down some of the escort service numbers. They offer 24 hour service and the girls are usually solid 7's. Pricey though. 2,000-4,000 baht. Eden club is open from 2:00pm. You will get 2 girl action. Girls are average in looks and top notch in performance. Eden club is right next to the skytrain station. The 1st thing you will see are a bunch of street vendors and look for a luggage shop. Turn down that lane, and it's on the right hand side. The other soapies start up around 4:00pm or later. Traditional places like the Thermae, Graces, etc. have some free lancers, but at that time might be slim pickings. The beer gardens and other similar places also might have a few, but you will have to approach them. Good luck!

tetrapod
01-23-03, 11:31
Hi all!

I'm planning a trip to Bangkok in April, and had a question.

I plan to take a small camcorder with me to capture some memories. However, I noticed that pornography is illegal in Thailand (quite strange for a country known worldwide for sex). How extensive are the laws? Would I be thrown in jail for taking images?

All I want to do is take a few shots of the girls before the action.

Any ideas?

tetrapod

Joe Zop
01-23-03, 23:26
Tetrapod, plenty of us have taken pics and vids for personal purposes with no problems. As long as you look like a typical tourist and aren't carrying things with big labels like "Fu**ing Bangkok Bar Girls" you shouldn't have any problems. It's a bit different if you're carrying industrial strength video stuff, but just about everyone's got a camcorder these days.

Of course, this all depends on your particular history and tendencies when going through customs -- I'm someone who gets checked a fair amount since I carry a fair amount of electronic stuff with me, but I've still never had anyone get particularly nosy with me in this regard. Still, I tend to just sandwich things with innocuous stuff, zip files up on my computer, etc., just to play it safe.

(My Thai tutor's take on the police in Chiang Mai was that by and large they didn't want to deal with farangs because they didn't want to deal with speaking English.)

But in LOS they're mostly just not going to bother you. It's also illegal to have pirated CDs or vids, and people walk out of the kingdom with them a thousand times a day.

Cchadol
01-24-03, 04:22
Hi all,

This is comments regarding massage places in BKK. I have tried few places but from my experience, Catherine is by far the best massage place in terms of girl's quality. It is small but the girls ragne from 7-10 expecially on 6th floor, vip. On vip floor the price is high - 4,500 to 6,000.

how does this place rate against other up-scale places such as Poseidon or J1?

Thank you.

Deep File
01-24-03, 09:50
Man....

Are you looking at exactly 4 hours from touchdown to departure time? You probably have time to go out thru immigration and across to the Amari Hotel where you can get FS... the place in the transit lounge is small, sometimes booked and only offers hand relief.

Also... several of the soapies open at noon (Plaza on Phetburi comes to mind). Are you transiting on a weekday?

File

AsiaTraveler2
01-24-03, 10:19
Originally posted by Deep File
Man....
Are you looking at exactly 4 hours from touchdown to departure time? You probably have time to go out thru immigration and across to the Amari Hotel where you can get FS... the place in the transit lounge is small, sometimes booked and only offers hand relief.
File

Deep File;

He doesn't even have 4 hours. Figure he'll probably be alittle late. Figure it takes at least another 1/2 hour to get out of the plane and get his bearings and 1/2 hour before departure time for boarding and 1/2 hour for getting to his connecting flight. Probably leaves him a 2 hour window, and I'm probably being generous with that. Sounds like too small a window for the Amari. I think he has to settle for the HJ and work something out for his longer stop over on the return. Just my opinion though. Depends on how well he knows BKK and the airport. He has very little time to figure things out on the 1st lay over.

AsiaTraveler2
01-24-03, 10:21
Deep \ Man;

Having said all of that .. remember, where there's a willy there's a way!

Apac Boy
01-24-03, 10:32
dood...just call Eden and tell them to send 2 girlz to the nearest Airport hotel. Pay them and their taxi fare...

it'll be over in 1.5 hrs...

plenty of time to go back to the airport.

also, if u don't like the way Eden gurlz look, call an Escort Agency.

many of them are listed.

tapioca

tetrapod
01-24-03, 11:33
joe_zop:

Thanks for the advice!

I just got startled reading web articles about people being taken to jail for "possession of pornography".

Has anyone had experiences with the Thai police?

I just don't feel like rotting in a Thai prison for taking a few photos and video.

tetrapod

AsiaTraveler2
01-24-03, 14:58
originally posted by tapioca
dood...just call eden and tell them to send 2 girlz to the nearest airport hotel. pay them and their taxi fare...

it'll be over in 1.5 hrs...

plenty of time to go back to the airport.

also, if u don't like the way eden gurlz look, call an escort agency.

many of them are listed.

tapioca

tapioca;

nice idea, and it might work, but i think it's harder than it sounds. i know you are an experienced bkk traveler, but not sure how often you have a layover. i travel to asia every 4-6 weeks and always have a stop over or layover. usually 2-3 hours. that time flies .. he really needs to plan this ahead of time and work out the details. he'll need to call as soon as he get's off the plane as well, so the eden or escort girls can already be on the way as he's working his way out of the airport. he'll need to check into a hotel, so he'll need to plan where that is as well. most of the time i call an escort service, it takes a girl 30 minutes to an hour just to get to my hotel from in town, like the majestic. there's a 30 minute + drive for the girls to get to the airport area. not trying to be a party pooper .. just want to make sure he works out the details in his head.

Deep File
01-25-03, 05:10
A/T 2....

Yup... just about the window I was figuring... tight but doable. A lot depends on what time of day our man is transiting Don Muang. If it's 11pm then it ain't gunna fly... 11am and he's probably ok. Hell, if he ends up with only an hour at the Amari he still gets laid and if he gets hung up somewhere along the way he can always abort and scoot back for his plane: nothing ventured, nothing gained.

The Amari is a last resort kinda deal though... you gotta be ready for sticker shock (US$100 for 90 mins) and the ladies fall in the 4-6 range.

Tap's idea would work if you had a friend (or paid service?) here on the ground that could book a room (3 hr short-time at 300 baht) ahead of time at the Amari and have the hooker waiting there when the transit passenger arrived.... there's probably a good business here...

File

AsiaTraveler2
01-25-03, 05:36
Originally posted by Deep File
A/T 2....
Tap's idea would work if you had a friend (or paid service?) here on the ground that could book a room (3 hr short-time at 300 baht) ahead of time at the Amari and have the hooker waiting there when the transit passenger arrived.... there's probably a good business here...
File

Deep;
You are right .. the money hairs on the back of my neck just rose to attention. I'll have to talk to someone I know in BKK about this. Just have a booth or touts outside, and shuttle guy's on layover all day long! Schwing! Chaching! Ha!

LoveLOS
01-25-03, 07:13
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
Deep;
You are right .. the money hairs on the back of my neck just rose to attention. I'll have to talk to someone I know in BKK about this. Just have a booth or touts outside, and shuttle guy's on layover all day long! Schwing! Chaching! Ha!

Hells Bells! Do it! It's a service most of us would use if the price were right!

LoveLOS

Apac Boy
01-25-03, 08:11
all of this reminds me of a story I read in one of the magazines last week about Bangkok.

There're 2 thai guys going around Bangkok in a van and offering S/T services. It costs like 800-1000 bht and only one gurl to choose from. Basically, they pick u up and drive around while ur in the back boinking away. There is music that is piped into the makeshift bedroom. Police are still searching for the perpetrators.

look for a white van that keeps going up and down...
tapioca

OzGuy
01-25-03, 16:15
Hi all,

Probably a stupid question but on my last trip, I flew out of the LOS on Thai airways and just to the left of the check in gates, and up the escalator, there is a small massage centre, I didn't go in, was in a bit of a rush to get my flight, damn Bangkok traffic !!!, but back to the subject, is anything at all available in there ??
as I saw one cute little thing in there, that had me cursing the Taxi driver.

Thanks guys,

OzGuy.

AsiaTraveler2
01-26-03, 00:40
Originally posted by OzGuy
Hi all,

Probably a stupid question but on my last trip, I flew out of the LOS on Thai airways and just to the left of the check in gates, and up the escalator, there is a small massage centre, I didn't go in, was in a bit of a rush to get my flight, damn Bangkok traffic !!!, but back to the subject, is anything at all available in there ??
as I saw one cute little thing in there, that had me cursing the Taxi driver.

Thanks guys,

OzGuy.

Not a stupid question. I have never failed to get at least a HJ at any massage place in BKK. I did get a massage and HJ at the airport. I believe there is only one massage centre there, but I could be wrong.

Cchadol
01-26-03, 08:49
Hi all,

This is comments regarding massage places in BKK. I have tried few places but from my experience, Catherine is by far the best massage place in terms of girl's quality. It is small but the girls ragne from 7-10 expecially on 6th floor, vip. On vip floor the price is high - 4,500 to 6,000.

how does this place rate against other up-scale places?

Thank you.

Deep File
01-27-03, 05:19
Beer Bars Savaged

http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/27Jan2003_news13.html

Here's a Mon morning news clip for all you punters who have enjoyed the "Sukhumvit Square" beer bars... another reminder that the guys who control the sex/liquor/gambling scene here in LOS are serious heavyweights. You f*ck with the bull you get the horn.

;) File

Dick Johnson
01-27-03, 08:28
This is so wrong...
No time for tenants to even take their valuables out...

AsiaTraveler2
01-27-03, 08:51
Originally posted by adam0225
Hi all,

This is comments regarding massage places in BKK. I have tried few places but from my experience, Catherine is by far the best massage place in terms of girl's quality. It is small but the girls ragne from 7-10 expecially on 6th floor, vip. On vip floor the price is high - 4,500 to 6,000.

how does this place rate against other up-scale places?

Thank you.

adam0225;

My personal feeling is that Catherine is fine, but is a notch or two below the other big boys on Ratchadapisek. Poseidon, Emmanuel, Mirage, New Cleopatra's, etc. Have you also tried Plaza Entertainment? Have you tried these as a comparison? They have over a hundred girls, bar area, vip section. The sideline models are great .. you get to talk to them and see if anyone sparks your interest! Curious as to which places you have tried. Also try Barons Barbershop on Soi 24 I believe. Very nice 2 hour oil massage with extras!

tetrapod
01-27-03, 10:32
Deep File:

Was the Sukhumvit Square area extremely popular? Is it a major loss for Bangkok?

I've never been, but I'll be going to Bangkok in mid April. Will losing Sukhumvit Square be a major blow to the Bangkok tourist industry, or is there already enough bars to make up for the loss?

tetrapod

Dick Johnson
01-27-03, 13:43
Plaza was not bad. Kinda same as the bigger establishments.

Monger22
01-27-03, 22:05
i can attest to second floor massage an barber shop in airport in bkk. get there early an enjoy a last hurrah on the second floor. bbbj an hj only. bkk never ceases to amaze me....enjoy

ManonsanBoy
01-28-03, 00:53
Hey Guys

Thanks for your thoughts on the lay over at the airport. I have looked at the schedules and decided to take an earlier flight and arrive LOS around 6 pm. I guess 5 hours is enough for Amari. I do not want to rush too much.

Just a stupid question; why is Annie's massage so popular in this room?

AsiaTraveler2
01-28-03, 04:58
Originally posted by manonsanboy
Just a stupid question; why is Annie's massage so popular in this room?

My guess is location. Walking distance from most of the most poplular hotels in the area. I don't have it very high on my list of places to visit.

Cchadol
01-28-03, 09:20
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
adam0225;

My personal feeling is that Catherine is fine, but is a notch or two below the other big boys on Ratchadapisek. Poseidon, Emmanuel, Mirage, New Cleopatra's, etc. Have you also tried Plaza Entertainment? Have you tried these as a comparison? They have over a hundred girls, bar area, vip section. The sideline models are great .. you get to talk to them and see if anyone sparks your interest! Curious as to which places you have tried. Also try Barons Barbershop on Soi 24 I believe. Very nice 2 hour oil massage with extras!

Dear AsiaTraveler2,
You r one very knoledgeable dude. Thank you very much for ur high quality feedback. My experience dating back to 1996, my first time in Thailand. I was working in Korea at the time and was not familiar with the nightlife. My first time in LOS was 1 week regional conference in Chiangmai. First night, we went to a night club, and to our great surprise many girls came to our table. At first, we thought there were attracted to our good looks... but soon we put two and two together got the idea.... we took either lady's mopeds or tuk tuk to our hotel... we had to sneak into the hotel inwee hours just in case our bosses r hanging around in the lobby.... i guess high risk high return... so that was the routine for the entire week.... My second exp. for LOS was in 1997 BKK. I came with my buddy as a travel agency package tour. The tour guide took us to masaage place, it turned out to be "Juliana". other than that we did not get much action... just touring the temples with bunch of old folks....
My real action in LOS started when I got a job that reqires me to travel throughout the asia. at that time, i had a co-worker who would travel with me. we would go to catherine all the time since that is only place we know. Then one day, we had a group dinner at Spasso, Hyatt Erawan and me and my buddy decided to stay for more drinks... to our great pleasant surprse, there were reasonably high qulaity girls and it was easy to pick them up.... so for a long time we freqent Spasso and sometiems CM2 at Novotel or bar at Sheraton Sukhuvit. One time we went to Hollywood, but did not get much action. u get a table and it is hard to walk around to check out girls... so if u get a table at wrong location then u r screwed...
Last year, i met a university student from chatting... so i managed to banger everytime i go to bkk.... that was cool....

So, AsiaTraveler2, I've been to LOS manytimes but my exp. is limited so far, spasso, catherine, that is about it...

i will be arriving on Jan. 30, 2003. what new things u recommend i try to enhance my experience...
Thank you

Cchadol
01-28-03, 10:43
originally posted by asiatraveler2
adam0225;

my personal feeling is that catherine is fine, but is a notch or two below the other big boys on ratchadapisek. poseidon, emmanuel, mirage, new cleopatra's, etc. have you also tried plaza entertainment? have you tried these as a comparison? they have over a hundred girls, bar area, vip section. the sideline models are great .. you get to talk to them and see if anyone sparks your interest! curious as to which places you have tried. also try barons barbershop on soi 24 i believe. very nice 2 hour oil massage with extras!

dear asiatraveler2,
first, i am not ur worthy. ur encyclopedic and high qulity knowledge is very impressive... nope, i have not tried any of those big boys on ratchadapisek...what is the cost for fishbowl and vip and/or sideline model at those big boys?

i have not tried plaza entertainment? could u tell me more about this place? ... about oil massage at barons barbership on soi 24, it sounds good... i hear that girls at oil massage place has ****d girls, is it ture? what is the quality of girls at barons barbership. is it easy to find (e.g. sign posted in english)

is it easy to sedece normal girls in such place as in hollywood or sparks... so far i haven't been able to...

when i go to bkk later this week, i guess i will try some of ur suggestions.

i hear so much about edens from this posting... just reading thru some of the comments, it can be either a very nice experience or yukky, smelly bad experience... what is ur take on edens?

my personal philosophy is u pay a little more for high qulity... i don't like to haggle w/ girls over few dollars.... some may blame me to spoil the market...

Monger22
01-28-03, 18:54
Annies is good service an good location. casual atmophere for an afternoon delight.

Deep File
01-29-03, 11:20
Tet:

I don't think the Suk Square bars will be much missed, except by those punters that were regulars there... definitely no lack of alternatives around Krungthep. I kinda liked the place, because it was quiet and low key but most tourists won't notice it's gone.
It was also handy for a quick brew half way between Nana and Cowboy... Word on the street is that the heavyweight owner wants to put up a hotel on the site (jesus.... not another hotel).

And I agree with Dick.. wrong. But definitely "TIT"...

File

AsiaTraveler2
01-29-03, 14:44
Originally posted by adam0225
Dear AsiaTraveler2,
First, I am not ur worthy. Ur encyclopedic and high qulity knowledge is very impressive...

my personal philosophy is u pay a little more for high qulity... i don't like to haggle w/ girls over few dollars.... some may blame me to spoil the market...

adam0225;

You give me too much credit! I'm not an expert. I have only been to BKK 6-7 times. About once or twice a year for the last 4 years. I do go crazy there .. having sessions sometimes 3-4 times in one day .. morning massage w\extra's, soapie in the afternoon, and Nana\Soi Cowboy in the evenings. I suggest trying everything once .. here's a brief list:

Nana Plaza: Some nice girls. Place can be a bit sleazy at times,
but some of the girls really are great! Play Skool & Rainbow 1
are cool. Some suggest Angel Witch .. have not had
good luck there, but others swear by it.

Soi Cowboy: Long Gun and Bacarra. Easy to find. Sky Train
will get you there. Bar Fine the girls for take home, just like
Nana Plaza. Bar fines for Nana and Soi are about 600 baht.
Girls are looking for 1,000-2,000 baht tip.

Clinton Plaza: Smaller entertainment complex similar to Nana
and Cowboy.

Super Soapies: All of the Big Boy's on Ratchadapisek.
Here's the websites for 2 of them:

http://www.poseidon2000.com/model.html

http://www.newcleopatra.com/home_Cleopatra/home_cleopatra.html

The Entertainment Plaza is a notch below, but you have about 50-100 girls there and a VIP section. Price for all of the top Soapies are about the same .. 2,400 baht for fish bowl and up to 4,000 baht for Super Stars. Just talk to the papasans .. they will fill you in on all the details.

Soi 33: Some like it and some don't. Some drinking bars. Some have shows on Friday and Saturday. Some girls available some
not. My understanding is that it's a street frequented by local business men, and I ran into some girls who spoke very little or no english. I did meet a stunner, but she did not speak a bit of english.

Edens: I would go there again. Girls really do go all out to please you. Looks of the girls are average though. You can get your own 2 girl action at other places if looks are your prime concern. The Eden's girls are just more agressive in their approach, and the mirrored ceiling is cool.

Karaoke Places: I have never gone to the same place twice, so you may want to check with others. I can't recall any names off the top of my head. You pay 500-600 baht for every girl you want. I had 6, and made my own little party. I had a alot of fun that night! Drink, Sing and later back to the hotel!

Barons: Yes, all places have signs in english out front. Any taxi driver should be able to take you there. You can also use the sky train to take you down to Soi 24, and you can get a tuk-tuk to take you to the place if you can't find it.

Pegasus Member Club: High end place with Karaoke rooms, bar, stage show, and other diversions. Very nice place, but expect to drop $100-$200 easy. 1,800 baht entry fee and 900 baht lady drinks. Bar Fine is 3,000 baht. Nice girls, but not any better than most of the Soapies. They have a 70,000 baht one year pass .. not worth it in my opinion. If you have the money .. a nice change of pace. There are similar places, but it's the only one I visited. It's on a back street around Soi 23.

24 Hour Out Call (Usually 2,000-4,000 baht to agency)
There are others, but here are some that I have tried ..
No.1 Bangkok Models: 0-2641-9099, 0-2641-9489
09-897-9801

VIP Models: 0-1835-7897, 0-1808-7595,
0-9891-5886

Sabai Sabai: 24 hr incall or outcall
02-2534523, 02-6510188, 01-3071415
Have not tried this place .. but I kept their card.

Hotels: Many of the larger hotels have massage and all the one's that I have tried, also offered HJ's. A couple did the body to body oil massage. About 1,000-2,000 baht tip is usually asked for. Massage itself is about 600 baht for 1-2 hours depending on the location.

Clubs\Disco's:
Angels\Nana disco in Nana Hotel, Dance Fever on Ratchadapisek, Spasso .. mileage will vary on these.

Late Night Action: Thermaes and Graces Coffee Shop (Not really a coffee shop in the true sense .. They have drinks, coffee, and food though and I believe they are still open 24 hours). Booze stops at 2:00 am though. Graces is very close to Nana.

I know I'm missing some other things but I chewing up alot of thread here. I used this tour guide once .. cool one man operation .. paid him 1,000 baht for a whole evenings worth of driving. He took me where ever I wanted to go and also suggested some places. Cool guy. Phone is 09-9675284. I think his base is near the Ambassador hotel, but he will pick you up. Arm Travel .. his name is Arm.

Good luck!

AsiaTraveler2
01-29-03, 14:51
adam0225;

Quick footnote on Arm .. I paid for his drinks during the evening. He did not ask, but I thought it was the cool thing to do. He had soft drinks .. did not want to drive drunk. Cool on his part. He also served as a translator with some of the girls who did not speak any or much english.

Sabai Sabai .. I threw that in, since it's right across the Ambassador hotel and it's 24 hours. Easy walking distance, but like I said .. have not tried the place.

Joe Banana
01-29-03, 14:56
http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/29Jan2003_news05.html

It appears to have been senior military involved in the Suk Demolition. Story above!

Cchadol
01-29-03, 16:04
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
adam0225;

Quick footnote on Arm .. I paid for his drinks during the evening. He did not ask, but I thought it was the cool thing to do. He had soft drinks .. did not want to drive drunk. Cool on his part. He also served as a translator with some of the girls who did not speak any or much english.

Sabai Sabai .. I threw that in, since it's right across the Ambassador hotel and it's 24 hours. Easy walking distance, but like I said .. have not tried the place.

AsiaTraveler2
Thanks for good info. tomorrow i am going to bkk so i will try some of ur suggestion. these days i am getting lucky with internet chatting. I got a hot looking univ. student and now i will be meeting 18 year old college fresh....

Joe Zop
01-29-03, 16:48
The military -- you mean there might be some corruption? I'm shocked, truly shocked. :D On the other hand, let's just say it's good that this is getting a "little guy wronged" spin as opposed to the corporation getting a walk on it -- not that it appears much is sticking to the owners at this point.

And very nice list, Asiatraveler2. I'd simply note that by and large there's little to nothing left at Clinton Plaza now, though of course there are still beer bars all over the place, both there and everywhere else. And Patpong should at least be mentioned, I think, with the appropriate cautions about prices, rip-offs, etc., as there's still a lot there -- it's worth a trip to the circus if only to look at the animals.

AsiaTraveler2
01-29-03, 23:16
Originally posted by joe_zop
Asiatraveler2. I'd simply note that by and large there's little to nothing left at Clinton Plaza now, though of course there are still beer bars all over the place, both there and everywhere else. And Patpong should at least be mentioned, I think, with the appropriate cautions about prices, rip-offs, etc., as there's still a lot there -- it's worth a trip to the circus if only to look at the animals.

You are right .. I knew I left something off .. I have not been there the last few trips. Slipped my mind. Thanks for pointing it out!

Adam0225;

Yes, the chat rooms\pen pal route also works fine. Applies to the Phillipines and to a lessor extent in Japan\Korea\China. Have fun!

Cchadol
01-30-03, 10:03
If u guys haven't tried Spasso, Grand Hyatt Hotel yet, I recemmend this place. The beer price is high and it has cover charge in weekend. But it is a cool place to kick back and listen to the live band. The atmosphere is abit posh and nice and girls r always plentiful. I would say there r more than 50 free lancers everynight. Don't go there too early. it is an italian restaurant during the day before it tranforms itself as an ultimate meat market after around 9:oopm.

Cchadol
01-30-03, 10:10
It is 3:00pm Thursday. I arrived in LOS this morning 11:00am. I just checked in at Grand Hyatt and had a lunch at Spasso. I had a buffett lunch - 500 bt but i got tricked and it ruined otherwise perfect lunch for me. While i was enjoying nice salad, the waitress ask me if I want water and i said yes... after a meal i ask for a meal the bill was 800 bt not 500. guess what? she charged 300bt for water (evian)... oh well... other than that blemish so far so good....
I called my girl friend whom i met from the internet chatting... i will go to her university to pick her up at 4;30pm... i will post if interesting things come up....

Joe Banana
01-30-03, 14:21
What internet sites can you recommend for chatting and finding. Also for hong kong would be useful.

Cchadol
01-30-03, 15:31
Originally posted by Joe Banana
What internet sites can you recommend for chatting and finding. Also for hong kong would be useful.

Dear Joe,

I use Yahoo and MSN. Also there r local chatting room that require u to communicate in Thia. As for Hong Kong, forget it. All decent normal girls in Hong Kong are very materialistic. Girls in Indonesia, Philippines and Thailand are more responsive in chatting.

Basic rules to seduce nice young college girls are:
1. Be patient... i mean don't talk about vulgar things so soon
2. Establish that u r a nice guy and build trust
3. You will need to give urself at least 1-2 weeks before ur arrival.
4. After u meet w/ ur chatting pal, everything else is up to u.

My personal exp.
I met my girld friend thru chatting. After I arrived in Bkk I called her up and asked her if we can meet at Hyatt. She asked me if she can bring her sister. I was thinking myself what a bummer. but i can understand her thinking... she may think what a psycho i can be... rite... we got together and had very nice dinner. We struck good conversation, big change from girls we find from bars.... after a dinner, we went to a Q bar, a very nice bar,

Taodan
01-30-03, 20:37
Have you guys follow the news? Thailand has closed its borders with Cambodia. To read more news what has happened, go to www.google.com and type in either thailand or cambodia and click on "news" tab.

Erik
01-30-03, 22:17
For me, the arrogant Thai leadership has tryied to take advantage of the pre-election situation in Cambodia to manipulate people and provoke shit out there. The Khmers, who felt insulted in their well founded national dignity, have reacted in a primary way, as they are far less shrewd and sophisticated than the Thais, and don't really know how to deal with the world media, like the Thais do. Now the Thais pose as victims. Flights between the two capitals are cancelled for now, the border in Hat Lek/Koh Kong is closed (I don't know about the Aranyapratet/Poipet one), Thai aid to Cambodia is on stand by (should not involve big amounts anyway), and diplomatic relations have been downgraded. All that at the initiative of the Thais, who obviously try to escalate the incident. Don't worry guys, the border with Vietnam is no problem, and that is where the best girls come from... Less bastard Thai businessmen in Cambodia can only be a good thing for this lovely country.

Joe Zop
01-31-03, 00:01
Erik, how do you figure this is the Thais at fault here? Admittedly, the whole rumor thing is idiotic, but it appears to have been started by Khmer nationalists and a Cambodian editor, (http://www.nationmultimedia.com/page.news.php3?clid=1&theme=A&usrsess=1&id=8318) having an embassy burned doesn't sit well with anyone, and the Thais are pretty sensitive about people messing with the King's photo in any way. The border stuff seems like the typical Thaksin escalation process at work, to show he's doing something, and is probably temporary and minor. Looks from here like not one but two insulted countries both of whom have their backs up in exaggerated ways. I'd bet things will get back to normal pretty quickly.

Taodan
01-31-03, 00:40
Prostitution is illegal in Thailand so why the gov't look the other side? Why don't they legalized it and register all sex workers so that they can keep the HIV/AIDS in check?

Scenario:
What if the gov't were going to pass a law prohibit foreigners bringing Thai girl(s) into their room and prosecute anyone who caught breaking the law? And ban all the go-go bars? What's the effect of that?

IrishLager
01-31-03, 02:55
Hey all,

I'm going to Bangkok & Pattaya for the first time on Feb. 14th-24th. I've been to Brazil and will now check out Thailand and conduct comparative research. I wanted to know a few things from you experienced LOS travelers. Is Q Bar a good place for hooking up? Are the girls in Q Bar and discos of that ilk non-pros, pros, or is there a mixture of both? Where is the best place to find the most stunners? Are the girls apt to give you a better deal if you're young, good, looking, tall, white, black, blond. etc.? Is there any hope of there being a place where non-pro, single girls looking for farangs hang out? That's probably a pipe dream but I figured I'd ask anyway. Thanks for the info.

irishlager

Deep File
01-31-03, 11:07
Spot on, Joe.... little off topic, but it's a hot subject today among the Thais I socialize with.

File

Joe Zop
01-31-03, 17:00
Irishlager -- first, good luck and have a great time, as I'm sure you will. I don't know much about Q Bar so I can't help you on that, but to take a shot at your other questions:

1. The best place to find the most stunners is probably in the go-go bars, but you'll also pay the highest prices there and often catch the most attitude. On the other hand, your risk factor is lower than dealing with freelancers in terms of actually getting what you think you're paying for.

2. Girls are apt to give you a better deal based entirely on their mood, their financial situation, the weather, their perception of what Buddha has in mind for them and who they are, your looks, attitude, their sense of whether they're going to see you a second or third time, etc. In other words, it's like the wind -- it depends on where you're standing and who you're dealing with. There's really little rhyme or reason to it.

3. The whole pro/non-pro thing is a bit of an illusion, especially in Bangkok and Pattaya. There are a variety of gray areas where "amateurs" will go with someone to make some extra money, but how do you feel like classifying someone like that? If someone takes money for sex, aren't they a pro? And if they're going with you they're generally going to expect something in return, as status and affection in LOS is reinforced by material goods -- if you like her, you buy her things, give her money, etc. It's pretty rare that you're going to find TGs who are going to hang out in places frequented by farangs in BKK or Pattaya just to meet someone for possible romance or fun -- if they're there, they're generally there to make extra baht, get nice clothes, jewelry, etc. That said, it does happen and you certainly can find exceptions at some of the discos, but if you find someone who's not after money, odds are they're still a pro who has just decided to have a good time. Discos, Thermae, Grace, etc., are places where you can find the occasional freelancer who's moonlighting after their day job for some extra dough, but, again, I don't know that you'd really consider them non-pros. I think the difference in LOS is really this -- it's less about what you do than how you're perceived. The last thing a woman in LOS wants to be thought of is as a bar girl, as that makes her the lowest of the low societally. There are plenty of freelancers who probably sleep around as much as bar girls, but they look to hide it and keep some degree of societal status.

Seydlitz
01-31-03, 19:21
Taodan:

Do you believe that prostitutes are the only vector of contamination, or even a privileged one ?

Do you believe that prostitution in Thailand is for the purpose of keeping solely foreigners entertained ?

Do you believe that Malaysia, for example, has a different HIV/AIDS situation, despite a very different attitude of its authorities towards prostitution ?

Why do you infer direct connections between HIV/AIDS and prostitution, or foreigners and prostitution, or Thailand and HIV/AIDS ?

Dashing Don
01-31-03, 20:11
Irishlager,

I will arrive with a fellow monger on Sat15th, in BKK and leave for Pattaya on Tuesday, 18th. Let me know if you want to meet up. I'm at snafle@hotmail.com. -- Dont worry about getting laid in LOS. Its impossible not to. The toughest part is getting on the plane to leave.

Don

IrishLager
02-01-03, 05:42
joe_zop,

Thanks much for the info. It definitely sheds some light on my questions. I'm gonna have a blast.

Dashing Don,

Yeah we could meet up. We'll be in touch. For the first 2 days I'm at the Le Meridien President Hotel on Th Ploenchit near Sukhumvit. I don't know if this place allows "guests", but it's close to the action and I can always check out if they don't. Are most hotels in BKK girl-friendly?

Have any of you guys been to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia? If so, how's that scene compare to BKK? I thought of maybe going there for 2 days or so.

RetiredGord
02-01-03, 18:56
Hello everyone.
This is my first post.
I have been going to Thailand and the the Philippines 3 or 4 times a year for the last ten years. I always check the forum before I go. I look for cheap sex and fun.

Some of the guys on the forum seem to spend money like they are from Chicago (as we say in northern Wisconsin). This sure raises the expectations of the girls. The cheapest sex that I get in Bangkok is on soi Cowboy. Try Fannys in the late afternoon. Two for one happy hour 4-6 pm. For an 80 baht girl's drink you can take her to the corner of the bar for a hand job. For a second drink you can usually get her to take her underwear off and cum between her legs or cheeks. In After Skool and Fannys this procedure has often ended with BJs or regular and anal penitration. They are happy as clams to accept a 100 baht tip. (200 baht is better if you want to go back there).
WARNING: The girls like to swarm a new customer. It is nice to have one girl kissing you, one giving you a back rub, one playing with your balls, and on jerking you off, but in a few minutes all those girl's drinks add up fast.

Most of the girls on the soi live in the rooms over the bars. Some of the bars have short time rooms upstairs. 500 for the girl 250 to 350 for the bar.

The girls run the full range in looks. Remember the plain ones often try harder and appreciate any kindness.

I will post of cheap sex in Pattaya next time.

Thanks for all the informative input over the years.

RetiredGord

Cambodia Pro
02-02-03, 05:11
dissapointed in THAILAND...... relatively

Cambodia wins by wide margin.

Had some cuities from Soi Cowboy in Thailand for $40 ST + $5 hotel , expensive compared to Cambodia where you can get a model material for $10 (no!, it's not a typo, It's TEN DOLLARS!) for ST, and $30 for LT.

The Thai girls are also not as attractive as the Cambodian/Vietnamese girls in Cambodia.

Cambodian girls have nice asses, and the perkiest tits in the world. Vietnamese girls are simply cute.(I am talking about the ones from the South Region, an exotic tribe of the most tiny women on earth. I had a 21 year old that was barely 4' tall, yet everything was perfectly proportioned like a little doll. if you saw her from 5 feet away you would have thought she was a nine year old, yet she already had a kid, and the saggy tits to prove it.


The World Ranking stand as follows, 1 being best
BEST
1) Cambodia
2) Cambodia
3) Cambodia
4) Czech Republic / Brazil
5) Thailand / Russia


WORST places in the World, in descending order
1)USA
2)Canada
3)Germany
Most Western Countries

Freeler
02-02-03, 06:42
Mr Bush,


You MUST be doing something wrong in Thailand...

My most expensive ST was B400 including roomrent, that LESS than $10!

My cheapest, apart from a few freebie's, was B100, that's LESS than $2,50! I had several B100 ST's... I even had one offer of B50, but I was stupid and paid B100...

I refused all LT offers, but NONE were over B500, that's LESS than $12,50.

Dick Johnson
02-02-03, 09:13
PHNOM PENH: A beautiful actress, a revered king, false rumours, political intrigue and ancient temples in the jungle could all be elements of a comic opera.

But add fire, death and destruction to the anti-Thai riots in Cambodia this week and nobody is laughing.
Many, however, are puzzled.

“Befuddling” is how the Cambodia Daily described yesterday the security lapse which saw mobs torch the Thai Embassy and Thai-owned businesses here on Wednesday night.

The superficial facts are reasonably clear: Cambodian newspapers carried rumours that a Thai soap-opera actress had claimed Cambodia's centuries-old temple complex, Angkor Wat, in fact belonged to Thailand.

The popular actress denied having ever made such a statement, which would suggest it is a fabrication.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen lent strength to the rumours by saying publicly that the actress, Suvanant Kongying, was not worth “a few bushes of grass near Angkor Wat.”

Protesters who then took to the streets were further inflamed by false reports that the Cambodian Embassy was under attack in the Thai capital Bangkok and Cambodians there were being killed.

They then set fire to cars, the Thai Embassy, a top tourist hotel and other Thai-owned businesses in an orgy of rage and looting that left at least one person dead(only one, no cover ups?) and several injured.

They jumped on pictures of Thai King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

When this insult to their beloved monarch reached the ears of the Thai people, an angry 1,000-strong crowd gathered in front of the Cambodian Embassy in Thailand.

They only dispersed when the king himself made a rare intervention and called for calm.

A furious Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra downgraded diplomatic relations with Cambodia.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen's government apologised and offered compensation.

So far, so reasonably clear.

But the questions of who started the rumours and why the police were so ineffective in protecting Thai property are being asked in both capitals.

Coincidentally, this happened days after the red light district in Cambodia is being closed.

AsiaTraveler2
02-02-03, 09:17
Yes, many in girls in BKK want 2,000 baht (about $45 US), but most will settle for 1,000 baht. There are also many that will accept 500 baht, at Nana or elsewhere, after closing. For the girls .. better than going home without anything. So you paid on the high end. Of course you can find cheaper girls elsewhere, but is money\cost the only basis for judging a place? I still think the money spent in a soapie .. 2,400 baht .. about $55 .. is money well spent. Excellent service and a wide selection of girls to choose from.

As far as attractiveness, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Everyone has different taste in women. I think the Cambodian/Vietnamese girls are cuties, but not any better than Thai, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc. etc. etc. I have enjoyed women everywhere I have visited. I think every race has their stunners. I also judge destinations for other things, like quality accomodations, food, easy transportation, safety, acceptance as a foreigner, access to internet cafes, and other diversions. If you pay $700-$1,000 to get to a destination, and spend 7 days there, you better get more than just sex. If that's all you got, you just spent $100+ per day just in airfare. Add in the hotel and the $10 you spent, you could have had sex in your home town for the same price. Not trying to start a war of words, but trying to put it in perspective. Let's face it .. even if you saved $50 for 7 days, that's only $350 US. Other factors clearly come into play. I think Thai girls are as good as any on the planet. Just my humble opinion.

Cambodia Pro
02-02-03, 21:35
I paid 1500 bah for st, and 200 bah for the room. I only like stunners(which I did not see very many of in Thailand, most are average to fat ugly), and they would not go below 1500 baht for ST. Even though I am good looking, and get breaks all the time. I am sure there were many fat girls that would have fucked me for free, but I had no desire for them. I always polite declined when they pressed on me, or grabbed/massaged my dick.

I stayed longer than 1 week in Cambodia, and did three stunner girls average per day in Cambodia with about 6 cums average per day. I screwed so much on some days until I had no desire. You could have put the most beautiful woman in the world after a long day of multiple cums, and I would not have touched her. I was so truly satisfied like never before in my life and I have travelled to every top destination in the world.


Cambodia will change you forever. You must experience it.

Cambodia Pro
02-03-03, 06:54
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
Criminal Bush you are so full of shit it is pathetic.

Hey DickJohnson, relax

Do you own a brothel in Thailand???

Are you related/work for the beloved King of Thailand??

Sorry, but the truth have to be out there. I am not the only one with the view that Thailand is very commercial, and the quality is low, and prices are high. This is relative of course. But having Cambodia so close it is stupid to go to Thailand unless you live there of course.

It is true that there are hordes of girls, but not particularly attractive. Next time I will take pictures of the ugly girls at nana plaza, and Soi Cowboy and post them here to let the Johns decide for themselves.

The truth is out there.

Good luck, and relax.

Cambodia Pro
02-03-03, 07:12
EDEN CLUB report.


Visited the Eden club around 6PM, and no girls on the left of the yellow line(for anal). Plenty of average to ugly girls on the other side. The owner is not particularly friendly as reported previously in other postings. You have to take two girls at 1600 baht each, total 3200 bah per session.

if you want only one, you have to take her to your hotel or other short time place. no exceptions according to the owner which I think is a New Zealander or Australian.

I am still laughing at Dick johnson post, I had no idea some people can be very attached to a particular place. or maybe they have a financial/emotional interest. In any case, I still stand by my call that Cambodia beats Thailand by a wide margin. You can see my report on the Cambodia board.

Deep File
02-03-03, 07:26
Lager...

I get to KL frequently and there is an active scene there but much different in character; due to the Muslim culture the sex trade must be more discreet so it operates at a lower profile than Thailand (mainly "health clubs" in the hotels). There is a nice variety of women... more foreigners than one sees in the trade here; but I wouldn't recommend going down just for that. Your time is too short... you need several days to learn the ropes in KL....enjoy Thailand for an extra 2 days instead.

There is an excellent FAQ on the Malaysia board, which is very active if you're interested in what the local mongers are up to.

File

AsiaTraveler2
02-03-03, 07:51
originally posted by criminal_bush
eden club report.

i am still laughing at dick johnson post, i had no idea some people can be very attached to a particular place. or maybe they have a financial/emotional interest. in any case, i still stand by my call that cambodia beats thailand by a wide margin. you can see my report on the cambodia board.

cambodian girls have nice asses, and the perkiest tits in the world. vietnamese girls are simply cute.(i am talking about the ones from the south region, an exotic tribe of the most tiny women on earth. i had a 21 year old that was barely 4' tall, yet everything was perfectly proportioned like a little doll. if you saw her from 5 feet away you would have thought she was a nine year old, yet she already had a kid, and the saggy tits to prove it.


bush;

i must admit .. i agree far more with dick johnson, although i do not want to be as blunt. i do feel you have some hidden agenda to your posts. do you run a business in cambodia? there is no way that cambodia beats thailand by a wide margin. it has some some merits, but there's a reason why rates are lower there. you can get a girl for lt for 2,000 baht or less in bkk, and they are not fat and ugly. i was turned off by some of touts, moto drivers, and the depressing thought that many of the young girls seem to be used due to the poverty level in cambodia. the number of ****d girls seemed to be far too blatant for my tastes as well. your quote on the vietnamese girl was also disturbing. saggy tits are a turn on for you? and just because she has a child is no proof of age. if she looked 9 years old from 5 feet away, i would not have anything to do with her. i only made a stop over in cambodia for 2 days, so i'm not an expert by any means. i did, however, see and experience enough to see that it is in no way "superior by a wide margin" to thailand or any other asian destination. anyone reviewing the posts on the cambodia board, would also quickly ascertain that while it has merits, it is clearly not "heaven on earth". i would guess that you live in cambodia.

LoveLOS
02-03-03, 08:23
Hey Guys,

I love this board and, obviously, I love Thailand. As far as Bush's, AT2's and DJ's comments go. I would have to agree -- you are all correct in your observations.

Remember this is a YMMV hobby and every monger will have a soft place in his heart and mind for the places where his world was rocked!

Just my $0.02!
Peace!
LoveLOS

Cchadol
02-03-03, 08:27
originally posted by asiatraveler2
bush;

i must admit .. i agree far more with dick johnson, although i do not want to be as blunt. i do feel you have some hidden agenda to your posts. do you run a business in cambodia? there is no way that cambodia beats thailand by a wide margin. it has some some merits, but there's a reason why rates are lower there. you can get a girl for lt for 2,000 baht or less in bkk, and they are not fat and ugly. i was turned off by some of touts, moto drivers, and the depressing thought that many of the young girls seem to be used due to the poverty level in cambodia. the number of ****d girls seemed to be far too blatant for my tastes as well. your quote on the vietnamese girl was also disturbing. saggy tits are a turn on for you? and just because she has a child is no proof of age. if she looked 9 years old from 5 feet away, i would not have anything to do with her. i only made a stop over in cambodia for 2 days, so i'm not an expert by any means. i did, however, see and experience enough to see that it is in no way "superior by a wide margin" to thailand or any other asian destination. anyone reviewing the posts on the cambodia board, would also quickly ascertain that while it has merits, it is clearly not "heaven on earth". i would guess that you live in cambodia.

i have to agree with dick johnson and asiatraveller2. i've travelled alot of places and in general, the overall quality of girls in thailand are the best bar none. even though i have never travelled to cambodia, i've travelled vietnam. i did find some stunners in vietnam and myanmar (mix with indian and burmese) at the top-end bars. other than that, the quality falls drastically...

in vietnam, u need to pay about usd 100-200 for the very best and they r good...

but to make a statment like girls in cambodia r better by far widemargin, obviously the writer does not understand the statistics.... if you have tried enough sample size and perpect sampling, u can make the statement... but i am afraid... 6 shots per day.... over 1 week period is not quite enough....

Cchadol
02-03-03, 08:54
It is 1:30pm on Monday... I just came back from nice Thai lunch and have some time to reflect... in the past 5 days since i have arrived in bkk, i did not get to try places recoomended by AT2. On Thrusday, as soon as I checked in, i called my girld friend who I have met from chatting last year. I have met her in my two previous visits... she goes to a so so private univ. but it is her look not her brain power i am interested in... she asked me to pick her up at her dorm... around 4:00pm i took taxi to get to her dorm and had to make small talk with her roomate for 20 min. (just niceties to make them happy) on the way to hotel we stopepd by at Siam Center to have dinner... the place is called Bahn Kunae... very good and reasonable pricing... once we got to hotel we took shower and got to real action... she left about 10:00am on Friday.... she came back on Friday evening...until then she have don't bj yet... so i asked her to go down... she was not that good at bj... but it was good to get bj my an amateuar I had to kick her out on Sat. morning... cuz i had anohter appointment... and even though I enjoy her company, i need some time to be along

I was scheuduled to meet my second girl friend... she is 19 year old high school senior... although we chatted over 6 months and exchanged some photos... we have never met... in terms of look (at least from the photo) she is the best ... i met her for lunch at Oriental and had a nice lunch overlooking the river... she was very nervous in the beginning but she was ok after a lunch...after lunch we went to c a movie at siam... the line was really long and had to wait for 20 min. just to get ticket... but it was a good opportunity for a ice breaker ... we play games and tease each other... during the movie we hold hand... it was neat experience... felt like i was 17 again... 1st date... this girls is from rich family... so she is abit more mature than other average thai girls...after a movie , we hang out at siam centers and she got tired... so we got to my hotel for cocktail lounge... we drink sparlkling water... of course she does not drink alochol... soon she was dozing off... so i suggested that she rest in my room... even at this moment... i did not expect nor want to try anyting since she is a very nice girl...
she took nap for about 30 min. and i was sufing net meanwhile... after she wake up she gave me a hug and i gently kissed her.... she did not resist... she we were making out for about 1 hour and finally i suggested to her that we make love... she was scared so she did not want to... i said fine.... then after another round of making out... we were finally naked... and i very gently made love to her... since it was her first time... i did not want to be selfish... i wanted her to have good memory...she stay with me until sunday evening... and had to go home... she was able to stay with me cuz she had a inteview at chuala univ. for entrance and she came to with her friend... perfect timing for me... chula is equlvalent to harvard in US very prestigious university... on sunday evening... i hooke up with another girl whom i met from internet chatting... she was 28 years old... when i met her... i was somewhat disappointed... she was far better looking in the photo... and she was very short... my other girl frineds are about 170cm.. she this girl was about 150 cm or shorter..... i bet BUSH would love her...
we had a beer or two and went to have dinner... but by that time i was not feeling so good... even though she is not bad... i was already missing my high school gf...during dinner, this Bit$# ordered lots of exp. dinner, so i had a big damage... after that we went to Novotel siam CM2 for more drink... after that we finally came to our hotel and did it... but i had a half erection... kind of erection barely allow u for penetration .. ha ha ha... i guess i was to tired.... and she had small tits... only thing she had was very nice cute face... but not much else... 5 am... i kicker her out....
i skipped bf and just had lunch.... and writing this report to my friend... tonight... my dumb univ. gf will come over ... but tomorrow is my last night here... and i will reserve it for a nice mp - perhaps catherine or poseidon.... i still think catherine is one of the best hidden mp in bkk.... main used by well helled thia men... good quality of girls...

overall, i had a great time herein bkk so far... i am the living proof of the power of internet....

AsiaTraveler2
02-03-03, 11:33
LoveLOS;

You are right .. everyone is entitled to their opinions. Thanks for the input.

Bush;

If you were just posting an honest opinion, and have no hidden agenda, then by all means I do appologize. Not my style to get into any war of words.

Peace!
AT2

Dick Johnson
02-03-03, 13:21
Why apologize AT2, you've seen the scene at both countries. Criminal Bush clearly has a hidden agenda. LoveLOS, this is not about opinions and preferences, but a clear, deliberate distorted view of reality.

Within days after K11 is closed due to child sex rumors criminal Bush starts bombasting the Thailand boards and the Cambodia boards with how Cambodia is full of stunners and Thailands girls are fat and ugly. Utter bullshit. I think he wants his scene back, hoping demand will create more supply. But the opposite will happen, as it already did due to international attention to this matter.

Then he starts questioning me if I own a brothel in Thailand, how ridiculous. Do I have to own a brothel to know the scene? Of course not. I know the Bangkok scene like many of you, and more then some of you. I've been to Cambo and checked out not just the main places but also lesser known spots. If it is really that great why don't you hear other people raving about it like he does? Why don't all the tourists flock there instead of Thailand? I will talk about it more in the Cambodia section.

Criminal Bush just saw his favourite haunt with K11 closed the last few days he is so desperate he starts exagerating hoping to get people to go there.

PurpleNGold
02-03-03, 14:50
Originally posted by Joe Banana
What internet sites can you recommend for chatting and finding. Also for hong kong would be useful.

Joe,

I use the chat from Yahoo messenger. It has a regional section that allows for more selectivity (though not absolute) in those you are speaking with.

I don't speak thai at all, yet have had no problem chatting with many girls in the rooms. An earlier post is correct about not speaking crudely. Pick a polite name, and just take the time to chat with the girl. I've had some great conversations, and have even been invited to view webcams a few times.

Enjoy.

IrishLager
02-03-03, 15:28
Is DFK a recommended activity in BKK. Some of you guys on this and other message boards on WSG talk about saliva being infectious, so is there a serious danger involved. Sometimes, I like to have a GFE for a few days, and DFK is usually/definitely practiced in those cases. I assume DATY is a big no-no in BKK.

Cchadol
02-03-03, 17:51
For hidden or not so hidden gems I recommend following:

1. Q bars
2. Spasso
3. Hollywood - for normal thai girls
4. Club/bar at Sherraton Sukhubit

Dick Johnson
02-03-03, 23:41
AT2, I've been to all those places you mentioned and more. Like I said before, I did enjoy my times at soi 33. The nightclub near Ambassador caters to mostly Korean customers, for talking, singing etc.

I've been thinking of starting my own website for the longest time. We'll see. Not sure yet cause these things tend to take up too much of one's time.

Cchadol
02-04-03, 04:01
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
AT2, I've been to all those places you mentioned and more. Like I said before, I did enjoy my times at soi 33. The nightclub near Ambassador caters to mostly Korean customers, for talking, singing etc.

I've been thinking of starting my own website for the longest time. We'll see. Not sure yet cause these things tend to take up too much of one's time.

Dick,
Could u tell me more about the nightclub nea Ambassador - name, service quality and girls and so on... Thanks.

Freeler
02-04-03, 08:56
Dick,

Well, you could be soooo right about the K11 matter.
Today the Cambo situation returned to the pages of the BKK-post. The border is staying closed 'indefenitely' says Thaksin.

We could get the same situation as in Pakistan/India. Pakistani trapped in India have to fly via Dubai to get back home.

Even if I wasn't flying home tonight, I would avoid Cambodia like the plague until the situation is completely back to normal.

Anyway, the whole Thai/Cambo situation shows that Asians don't have a lot of patience like they say they do...

AsiaTraveler2
02-04-03, 11:04
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
I've been thinking of starting my own website for the longest time. We'll see. Not sure yet cause these things tend to take up too much of one's time.

Dick;

Good luck, if you do decide to set up a website. Site maintenance\updating takes more time than most realize. If you can pull it off .. more power to you!

Member #4351
02-04-03, 21:59
adam0225,

If you don't mind my asking....how old are you? and how old do you look? Either you're a great bullshitter or one of the luckiest guys i've seen around here.

Cchadol
02-05-03, 03:20
Originally posted by david_33
adam0225,

If you don't mind my asking....how old are you? and how old do you look? Either you're a great bullshitter or one of the luckiest guys i've seen around here.

David,
I am 36 and will be 37 very soon. I am about average looking. People never say i am handsome... but on very rare occasion. some say I am cute.... so i am not hunk handsome type....

But i look young for my age.... most say i look around late 20's or early 30's.

Oh no, I am not a bullshitter... and i was lucky somewhat.... Basically I use few main startegy....

1. I chat and meet up girls in about 2-3 weeks before my trip... give enough time to establish rapport... never ask for phone number in the first few chats.... i alwasy give ny number first.... work number... if u r very single, i guess u can give home#.... in a way, i use reverse psychology... usually i talk about traveling, other places... they like to talk about other places, people... since we all travel... it is easy for us

2. Targeting is important.... i tend to focus on girls in early 20's (students)... girls older than late 20's and they've been around... so it is not as fun and also difficult..;. or they may have othe motive... (getting money for bong).... one exception.... if girls older than late 20's have a solid job.... then they r better prospect...

3. before ur arrival... i would call at least once to talk... just to c if they can speak basic english so that we can communicate if we meet... and/or just to establish relationship

4. Exchanging photo is important... not to show that u r Tom Cruise... but to show u r not butt ugly and/or very scary foriegner....

5. Once u meet ur g/f, there is few more things u can do to exhance the fun... for example, I get free tickets from acruing all these mileage... (we all do)... last fall, I send free ticket to one of my thai g;f and invited her to hong kong... since i find hk girls not acceptable and price too inflated... unless u can find decent looking maids or find South East Asian imports who think they can charge alot just because they r in hong kong..(i am sure some guys get this joke)....anyways,,, it takes only 40,000 to get ticket... and it was lots of fun hanging around wiht my hot looking g/f in hongkong looking at all these HongKong guys gawking at my exotic looking g/f (exotic for Hong Kong standard... if u know what i mean)...

6. After meeting 3 or 4 times... we need to dump them (not in all cases.. but in many cases) since it gets old and they get used to we going shopping and all that nonsense... but i only dump them after i have a anternative...

7. Get few of ur best photo from the closet and scan them... so ur good look is only one click away....
there r few more things i have learned ove the last few months from the internet... but i don't want to bore u guys with common sensical inputs....

Cchadol
02-05-03, 03:34
david,

I would suggest u try the following place... it is "Spasso" situated on the Lower Level at the Grand Hyatt Erawan... It is a nice italian restaurant... but after 10:00pm it turn into to a very nice night club with a great live and... no cover charge except on weekends... bt500 for two drinks... 12 bucks for 2 beers ... steep but it is nothing if u have good time...

basically u will find girls more polished, sophissticated... the cost for LT depens on negotiation but ranges from 1,500 to 4,000. no bar fine... they free lancers

just remember one thing if u do go to this place.... as soon as u walk in and order beer at the bar, u will make lots of eye contacts with girs.... but try to avoid avoid pick up the girl before spending at least 30 min... so that u can enjoy ur beer and music... but more importantly u got stuck with a girls while looking at the gorgeous girls on the dance floor thinking why u picked this bimbo so soon... good luck and let me know if u like it...

in my exp. this is the most up-scale bar in bkk... bar at Sukhvit Sherraton comes close 2nd....

Member #4351
02-05-03, 17:57
adam0225, Thanks for the information. However since I live in South America....would cost me a lot more than 40,000 miles. Anyway plenty of cuties here. I was asking since I will be traveling to the LOS in March and am not sure if its worth the hassle look for a GF for a couple of weeks.

AsiaTraveler2
02-05-03, 23:06
Originally posted by david_33
adam0225, Thanks for the information. However since I live in South America....would cost me a lot more than 40,000 miles. Anyway plenty of cuties here. I was asking since I will be traveling to the LOS in March and am not sure if its worth the hassle look for a GF for a couple of weeks.

My personal opinion is that the GF thing is not necessarily a good thing .. more work than is necessary in a place like LOS and also might limit your options. I have had many ST girls, who were willing to spend the next day with me, if I wanted to do some tourist things, shop, see a movie, etc. It takes alot of work to do these chat things. e-mails, photo exchanges, phone number exchanges, strategy, etc. You can do the Night Club Scene, Beer Gardens, Karaoke joints, or Nana Plaza\Soi\Patpong circuit and hook up with a girl for more than a day if you want. No strings, no commitments. I think the GF route works better for place where the girls are not so readily available or where language might be a barrier like Japan and HK. Just my humble opinion.

SuckMeUp
02-06-03, 04:38
I will be in Bangkok between 24th and 26th Feb.Anybody want to meet up for a couple of drinks?

Apac Boy
02-06-03, 11:13
5 more weeks baby....

i was going to do this around the 4 weeks mark but i'm too excited. i just bought another 256 mb CF card for $50!!! not only will there be pics, 3 min. videos will be included!

so far confirmed is me and traveler and i think sedlitz...DJ, u going? Ron Jeremy's still riding the fence and not the tg...
oh well, that means more big booby gurlz for tapioca.


tapioca

Member #4351
02-06-03, 16:31
Asiatraveler2 I think you're right. Down here in S. America I can do the girl friend thing since I speak the language and have plenty of time. Since I'll only be in Bkk (and hopefully Cambodia) a few weeks, (from the third week in March), I'm probably better off sticking to P4P situations.

Apac Boy
02-07-03, 10:12
samus [wink, wink]

i will grace my presence upon the dirtiest of them cities in thailand (in honor of dat banned guy...i can't say his name in fear of retribution) for most of the time. so i will only be in bkk for a short while:
3/15 - prob 3/17...

3/15 if ur interested. that's a saturday too, btw...

TLR meetup at night like ur last meetup.

and i don't drink be-ah...nam som or nam yen only.

Kevin_405
02-08-03, 09:18
I will be there from 16th to 19th of Feb
and
from march 13th to March 16th


tapioca may be we can hook up...

I just got a camcorder planning to make movies.. ho ho ho

SexReview
02-08-03, 12:46
Originally posted by tapioca
5 more weeks baby....

i was going to do this around the 4 weeks mark but i'm too excited. i just bought another 256 mb CF card

tapioca

Tapioca,

Hope you have lots of cards with you I got the the point on my last trip where I was shooting a coulpe of gigs each day that is eight 256 mb cards. You can't take enough memory with you always something to shoot.

Ludwick
02-08-03, 13:43
Now we all enjoy a proper thai theraputic massage from time to time.Yes the ancient healing massage that thailand is renowned for.Well there is a nice little place that i go to which you can have the best of both worlds for about 500 baht.

The place is called the sirada hotel which is off vipawadee rungsit road soi 10..oppisite the super hotel.Nice place to stay too,5 minutes walk to skytrain and very quiet area at end of soi for 700 baht per night.

On the 5th floor there is a massage centre for which you can purchase a 2 hour thai massage for 500 baht.They also have an oil massage for an extra 100 baht.You can't choose the girl you want as they have a number system and wait in turn as the customers come in.

Any way with the oil massage you get to take off all your gear as the massuese fondles your balls and gives you a pretty good hj.You can negotiate other services with them as you are given a very nice private air con room.These girls are very good at thai traditional massage and like to make you very happy with other things if you want.some of the girls are nice and some not so nice as far as looks go,so it's just a matter of luck which one you get.

I go quite a bit and often end up with some little isaan cuties

Good luck

Ludwick

Apac Boy
02-09-03, 07:49
kevin, u can come if ya want...just make sure u hold dat camcorder steady and bring a wide angle lens. u don't have to pay me either..i will have sex on camera for free (wearing my picachu mask, of course).

ok...3/15 it is...TLR

i'll make a specific time as we get closer.

Byeon Kwang Sae
02-10-03, 13:03
Have any of you tried the Generic Cialis?

I keep getting unsolicited e-mails from someone trying to sell me Chinese-manufactured generic Cialis.

I tried the real stuff in France a few months back, so I know it is hot (24-36 hours worth) But, I know nothing of the generic.

How about writing to me off of the board.

just_a_nice_old_guy@yahoo.com

Lalake
02-10-03, 14:40
BKS:
I posted this in the forum section of www.**************.com
***********************
I post this in case anyone has heard of this new drug.
I am wondering if anyone has bought this in the LOS ? I've seen prices on the internet....very expensive. Maybe about 10% more than Viagra. This is good for a day and a half !!! Wow !
Read on:

Cialis Approved in EU.
PARIS (AFP) - Cialis, a much-touted rival to the anti-impotence drug Viagra whose effect is said to last up to a day and a half, has been cleared for sale in the European Union, its makers, Lilly ICOS says.The drug is expected to be launched in the EU "during the first half of 2003," the company, an alliance of the US pharmaceutical giants Eli Lilly and Co. and ICOS Corp., said in a statement posted on its web site late Thursday.It hopes to gain approval next year to market the drug in the United States. The EU's executive Commission gave its approval after more than 60 studies were carried out among 4,000 people to test Cialis' safety and effectiveness, including a final Phase III trial on more than 1,000 men, the statement said. The trials show the drug "achieves its effect in as little as 16 minutes and lasts between 24 and 36 hours," the British journal New Scientist reported on Friday. Viagra, the blockbuster drug manufactured by Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, takes an average of about an hour to work and its effects typically last up to a maximum of about 12 hours. More than 150 million men around the world suffer from erectile disfunction, a fifth of them in Europe, according to Lilly ICOS' figures. Both Viagra, whose molecule is called sildenafil, and Cialis, known as tadalafil, work by blocking an enzyme called PDE5, whose malfunction prevents blood from flowing into the penis to make it erect. A fast-acting impotence drug called Uprima is already on sale in Europe, while a Viagra rival Levitra, developed by GlaxoSmithKline and Bayer AG, has been submitted for EU and US approval.
***************
I am trying to learn more about Cialis. No one has been able to tell me whether or not you can buy it in Thailand. I dont know anything about the generic version. Ask a pharmacist in Thailand.
I hope to learn more.
cheers,
lalake

Byeon Kwang Sae
02-10-03, 16:16
Lalake - - Thanks, very interesting. Yeah, I have one solid connection for "real" Cialis that I am using now, $15 per pill in small lots, and $10 per pill in quantity. But, what is interesting, I keep getting spammed at my e-mail account by some guy that claims to have a "generic" Cialis for less than one-dollar per pill. So, with that kind of cost difference, I was wondering if anyone had tried the generic? This is what I have gotten for two days in a row - - (all below is his e-mail advert, copied and pasted verbatim)

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Generic Chinese Cialis, 20mg, 24-Hour Sex, Good Prices

Hello, I am “William” (Chul) Lee, Korean. I have direct supply to the Chinese made generic 20mg Cialis tablets. This is very high quality generic, very uniform compounding, all pills same same strength, very good quality. I have direct connection to the factory in China, and I get best price.

I will sell them mail order to you as follows:

100 pills for $99USD (0.99 per pill)

200 pills for $180USD (0.90 per pill)

300 pills for $245 USD (0.817 per pill)

All prices include shipping to anywhere by express parcel post. No problems with your customs, we put official customs declaration on package, and our doctors letter in package. All legal, no problem.

Please order only in multiples of 100. I receive them in sealed packs of 100 and I do not break the seals.

Write to me for how to order.

chul_lee_777@yahoo.com.au


(Please Notice: I am sorry if this e-mail is a bother to you. I do this as honest business. I buy your address from sex sites like ***, and ***, and News Groups. If you do not want this mail from me anymore, you write and tell me, and I will take away your name. Thank you)

---------------------------------------------

So, what do you think ? ?

Chikan
02-11-03, 04:38
Byeon Kwang Sae,
I think he's a scammer looking for an easy target. I've read about some Chinese people that distribute look-alike "legal pills" but are actually fake ones made in some factory in China (and made to look like the real thing,complete with logo..). Personally, I'd stay away from him and his offer, it's not just your health at stake but also the health of your DICK! I mean really, $1 a pill compared to $15........"if something seems to good to be true....."
Take care!

Freeler
02-11-03, 06:42
Chikan, Byeon Kwang Sae,

I found this on 'www.cialisonline.biz/'

Note: Cialis is not available in the US. Beware of web sites that state they will ship Cialis to the US. A member of our customer service team contacted one such company and asked how their 'service' worked. We were told that they would ship "Generic Cialis" to the US. We were concerned by their reply because 'Generic Cialis' does not exist. Again, be safe and sign up for our newsletter to be informed when Cialis is available in the US

Perhaps this is BS too, after all it is the internet, but the 'generic' stuff seems too good to be true:(

PS The 'not exist' part is ofcourse more important than the 'not available in the US' part!

MeatMan
02-11-03, 07:21
Hey Fellas I haven't chimed in here for a while

Have you guys had the time to read Christopher G Moore's book"A Killing Smile"? Man,I all can say is FUCK!! I'm hooked..It's about the Thai-Expat world, the Thermae,Russian prostituties,and all that good shit! any more books by this guy??

(Russian *****s??.. In Thailand???..the HELL IS UP WITH THAT???) HAHAHA!

PurpleNGold
02-11-03, 08:31
Originally posted by MEATMAN
Hey Fellas I haven't chimed in here for a while

Have you guys had the time to read Christopher G Moore's book"A Killing Smile"? Man,I all can say is FUCK!! I'm hooked..It's about the Thai-Expat world, the Thermae,Russian prostituties,and all that good shit! any more books by this guy??

(Russian *****s??.. In Thailand???..the HELL IS UP WITH THAT???) HAHAHA!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/9749000412/qid=1044944829/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/002-7627440-8052044?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/9748669475/qid=1044944829/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_3/002-7627440-8052044?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Lalake
02-11-03, 12:46
BKS and Chikan:
good info, thanks.
but, does anyone out there know if this stuff can be bought in Thailand ? Philippines, etc?
thanks,
lalake

Cchadol
02-11-03, 23:17
Hey guys,

During my stay in Thailand I ran into this guy who owns a couple of bars in BKK. He told me very interesting things and I wanted to share them with you. Let me know what he said has any merits.

Accoring to this gentleman, there r several levels of entertainment complex in BKK. At the top of food chain is Thai businessmen and Korean/Japanese. The reason they enjoy the best the Thailand has to offer is that they r considered to be the VIP customers meaning that they r willing to pay for the high quality.

Then other forigners are second tier customers. They usally get the left overs from the top group. The bottomer of the pyramid is Indian/Pakistanis. I don't know if this is true... but this guy seemed to know what he is talking about....

Byeon Kwang Sae
02-12-03, 00:48
Damn, if this boner-drug biz ain’t like a soap-opera

LaLake,

Well, I reckon you could just mail order some real Cialis from the same source that I just started using, If you want the e-mail addy it is – johnnypowers@hushmail.com

I just got an e-mail from Johnny. He claims that he is now partners with this Chul Lee character (referenced in my posted query below) and that Johnny now has both Generic and real Lilly-Icos Cialis available. I will probably continue to just stick with the real stuff.

Damn, Thai girls ain’t gonna be safe if all of us are going around with 36-hour woodies.

Byeon Kwang Sae

AsiaTraveler2
02-12-03, 04:50
Originally posted by adam0225
Accoring to this gentleman, there r several levels of entertainment complex in BKK. At the top of food chain is Thai businessmen and Korean/Japanese. The reason they enjoy the best the Thailand has to offer is that they r considered to be the VIP customers meaning that they r willing to pay for the high quality.

Then other forigners are second tier customers. They usally get the left overs from the top group. The bottomer of the pyramid is Indian/Pakistanis. I don't know if this is true... but this guy seemed to know what he is talking about....

adam0225;

I don't know if I would qualify it as a tiered system, but more like niches. There are clearly some places that cater to Korean\Japanese customers. They tend to spend more in general, since it is still cheap by the standards in their own countries. Poseidon, for example, is clearly set up for Japanese customers. They don't prohibit others from visiting, but just look at the clientele. Pegasus Club is a high end club that also seems to cater to Asian high roller. There's also niches for local Thai business men .. very nice girls, many of whom do not have very good or any english language skills. Met one, who was simply one of the best looking women I have seen in BKK. Unfortunately .. no english. Soi 33 has some of these clubs. If you walk down from Soi 5-8 or so, there's a Soi that has Japanese restaurants and a Japanese style hotel. Another does have alot of Middle east restaurants, and clubs. That's my take on it .. just niche marketing.

Kevin_405
02-12-03, 07:34
I am just curious about posidon and pegasus..

Can you spell out how it works like entrance fee and services and charges for girls..





Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
adam0225;

I don't know if I would qualify it as a tiered system, but more like niches. There are clearly some places that cater to Korean\Japanese customers. They tend to spend more in general, since it is still cheap by the standards in their own countries. Poseidon, for example, is clearly set up for Japanese customers. They don't prohibit others from visiting, but just look at the clientele. Pegasus Club is a high end club that also seems to cater to Asian high roller. There's also niches for local Thai business men .. very nice girls, many of whom do not have very good or any english language skills. Met one, who was simply one of the best looking women I have seen in BKK. Unfortunately .. no english. Soi 33 has some of these clubs. If you walk down from Soi 5-8 or so, there's a Soi that has Japanese restaurants and a Japanese style hotel. Another does have alot of Middle east restaurants, and clubs. That's my take on it .. just niche marketing.

Apac Boy
02-12-03, 09:32
forget about pegasus...1 week travelers shouldn't go in there...just a waste of money.

u can find info on posiedon...do a search...there are much info on dat already.

tapioca

PurpleNGold
02-12-03, 12:24
Originally posted by tapioca
forget about pegasus...1 week travelers shouldn't go in there...just a waste of money.

u can find info on posiedon...do a search...there are much info on dat already.

tapioca

Why is Pegasus not worth it if you're only there for a week? If I'm there for 8 days, does it become worth while? 14 days? 1 month?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass. I don't know anything about it, so I'm curious.

Dick Johnson
02-12-03, 13:11
Forget Pegasus. 1 week travelers shouldn't go there. My pal Tapioca got it right. Dick here bought a 1yr 30K baht membership and I'm not in BKK long enough or frequent enough to take advantage of it. You'd better be in Bangkok alot and have money to burn to go there. If you have problems with bar fines of 600baht at Nana or 1500baht at soi 33 or 500baht tips then you should not even think about it. You are looking at at least 5000 baht just to take a girl out. A total of 8000-13000baht to get action. Plus a few guys there tell me they do not get GFE. And if you like your BJ without condoms, look elsewhere. And unless you've been there many times, most of the nicer girls are already taken. And like Dick says if you gotta ask.. you aint got the class... ;-) and I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Just here to give some good,exclusive info. Not the usual crap that's been going on.

-DJ

Dick Johnson
02-12-03, 13:22
Tap, not 100% sure about mid march yet. R U still going to Tokyo & Shanghai?

AsiaTraveler2
02-12-03, 14:23
Originally posted by kevin_405
I am just curious about posidon and pegasus..

Can you spell out how it works like entrance fee and services and charges for girls..

The guy's are right. Pegasus is probably not worth it. They do offer one night rates .. here's the general info as I recall it.

Cover Charge .. 1,800 baht
Lady Drinks .... 900 baht
Bar fine .... 3,000 baht

The cover charge, should be the tip off, that you are not dealing with a "normal" BKK club. You'll also need to tip the girl.

They also have Karaoke rooms, disco, stage show (entertainment only .. singing & dancing), etc. They are really into selling the annual membership. Not sure about the 30,000 baht annual membership, since they were discussing a 70,000 baht membership with me. I only go to BKK a few times a year, so it did not make sense for me. The girls, quite honestly, were not any better looking. Just dressed better. The place was nice, but a bit gaudy in my humble opinion. A poor man's version of Cesars Palace comes to mind. Having said that, I did enjoy my evening there as a change of pace. I go to Japan alot, so there was no "sticker shock".

Poseidon, is one of the big Soapies on Ratchadapisek. Figure 2,400 baht for 2 hours. Fishbowl set up. The complex looks like a huge hotel. 1st Floor reception area and restaurant. 2nd Floor is the fishbowl and waiting area. 3rd Floor is the sideline model and bar area. The rooms are nice, and the service is excellent. The girls also need to be tipped. Figure 500-2,000 baht, depending on your generosity. I'll attach the link for Poseidon and Cleopatra, so you can check out some of the pics.


http://www.poseidon2000.com/model.html

http://www.newcleopatra.com/home_Cleopatra/super_models/super_models.html


I hope this info helps.

PurpleNGold
02-12-03, 21:54
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2


http://www.poseidon2000.com/model.html

http://www.newcleopatra.com/home_Cleopatra/super_models/super_models.html


I hope this info helps.

Thanks for the info. Damn! Those girls are beautiful. 2400 for two hours? That's gonna be my first stop on my next visit.

Is the number beside their picture the number to ask for when visiting? Or can you ask by name: "nong ...."?

BTW, when you click on one of the girls pictures, and get to the page with her portfolio, you can vary the part of that URL by changing the number between 001-0034 to view many more girls than are on the catalog page.

AsiaTraveler2
02-12-03, 22:33
Originally posted by purplengold
Is the number beside their picture the number to ask for when visiting? Or can you ask by name: "nong ...."?


Keep in mind, those are the top of the line girls, who are more expensive. The 2,400 is for the regular fish bowl. The Super Stars are about 4,000 baht if I recall correctly. They are often booked. You will need to go down to Poseidon, New Cleopatra, Emmanuel, etc. and talk to one of the papa sans and book an appointment for one of the Super Stars. Check out the fishbowl girls and the side line models first. They have a catalog for the Super Stars. Have fun!

Kevin_405
02-13-03, 06:16
Thanks ...
Thats very helpful info



Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
Keep in mind, those are the top of the line girls, who are more expensive. The 2,400 is for the regular fish bowl. The Super Stars are about 4,000 baht if I recall correctly. They are often booked. You will need to go down to Poseidon, New Cleopatra, Emmanuel, etc. and talk to one of the papa sans and book an appointment for one of the Super Stars. Check out the fishbowl girls and the side line models first. They have a catalog for the Super Stars. Have fun!

Apac Boy
02-13-03, 06:30
i believe it's 1,900 for us Asian looking guys in Posiedon for fish bowl...HAHHAHA

ok, dat wasn't funny since there's prob only like 2 asian guys here. :(

DJ,
up to u. yes, going to japan and china first...

tapioca

Kevin_405
02-14-03, 09:13
Bangkok here i come ...

Leave for BKK the day after actually in another hour it will be tommorow , Can't wait to get there..

Dick Johnson
02-14-03, 19:50
Tap, you saying it's not funny makes it funny.

Firedick
02-15-03, 02:07
Hey Joe Zop,

I had to take a break. Too much of a pissing contest. But I found your post of 12/22 about Krabi and Trang. Thank you.

FD

Joe Zop
02-15-03, 05:10
Good luck, FD, and it seems to a bit less contentious here now, and I hope it'll stay that way..

BraBreaking
02-15-03, 05:40
Hi fellows

I'm planning to stopover in Bangkok for 2/3 days. Could someone please comment on the airport's luggage deposit facility

Has anyone used it before, how much does it cost/day etc. ....please !

Please don't disregard this post if you're knowledgable. I don't want to roam around with a fat, ugly luggage.

Thanks in advance

Freeler
02-15-03, 07:55
Brabreaking,

I found this on the web: "Between Terminals 1 and 2 there is a left luggage facility but it's quite expensive at 70B per piece per day (it is more expensive if used for over 3 months). Left luggage lockers aren't available, but bags are checked in at a counter. It's regarded as being pretty safe but it's worth bringing locks for your bags as they aren't provided.
It's a bit risky to leave anything too valuable there.
Perhaps a better option for left luggage is at a hotel you've stayed at, who will often then look after luggage for free or a for a small charge (often around 10B per day)
<< F: True, if they remember you, they will look after your goods... >>. If you don't trust the hotel or guesthouse you've stayed in, it might be worth staying one night at a different one in order to be able to leave your luggage there instead."

You won't miss the left luggage counter, it's very easy to spot...

You could take a train to HuaLamPong(Bangkok)railwaystation and leave the suitcase there for B10, BUT if it 'disappears' you will only get B500 or so (very low amount) in damages...

Stupid question: Is it possible to leave the luggage 'checked-in' for those two or three days?

MuffDriver
02-15-03, 13:09
Guys,

I'm with someone who REALLY wants to see one of those famous Patpong sex shows. Can anyone give me a recommendation where I won't get ripped off and where they show: 1) flying ping pong balls; or 2) live male-female sex on stage.

Many thanks.


Muffdriver

P.S. We're in BKK right now, and if I can get any advice in the next 24 hours, I'd appreciate it.

LarryOne
02-15-03, 20:40
Muff,

Try one of the places that belong to the King's group. Go to King's Castle Go Go 1 or 2 and tell one of the waiters that you want to see a show. They will direct you where to go. If I recall correct they have one show that is upstairs from one of their GoGos. King's groups upstairs where straight up with me and my friends when we went there, no scam and no problem with bills etc.

BraBreaking
02-16-03, 06:48
Freeler

Many thanks for the enlightment. Yes, if possible I'll try to keep my luggage checked in at the starting point for the onward flight. The only problem is I'm unsure of the days I'll be spending in BKK.

Thanks again!

Dashing Don
02-16-03, 11:18
Calling all mongers;
Just arrived in BKK last night (Sat). and here is my report. I haven't been here in over a year and all I can say is " thank god for Thailand." We're staying at the Landmark on Sukhumvit which is a beautiful hotel with many restaurants and a nice pool.

By the time we checked in and all, it was after 2am so almost everything was closed by the time we ventured out at about 2:30am. However, we met a fellow Manhattanite outside the Nana hotel who directed us to the Grace hotel, a block away, which has an all-night coffee shop. At 3am, the place was loaded with girls. Just the atmosphere of available sex, beautiful girls, relaxed atmosphere etc., was great. Even the streets at this time, are full of beautiful women; some working, some not. Such a change from the US.
We hang around, drinking a few Heinekens, chatting with our new-found friend. He is a seasoned monger with years of experience and knows about WSG. He freely admits to being a "lurker". We survey the scene, catching the eye of many girls, and marvelling at the difference between this and what we're used to in NY.
After a while, its time to pick a bed mate. I caught the eye of a very slim girl with beautiful, long black, shiny hair--just like from those hair product commercials. She smiled a lot. Was very gracious, courteous and polite. Very soon we were back at the Landmark Hotel, around the corner on Sukhumvit.
We started making out on the bed. I was incredibly hot for this girl. Everything about her was sexy. I let her go on top just to have her beautiful hair cascading over her breasts and my face. She was very affectionate and warm--a truly great experience. After completion, we immediately started making out again. I have to say that this is extremely rare for me. Normally, when done, I switch on CNN or something, but with this girl, I was really turned on. Lots of kissing etc. She did the whole routine; blow job, ball licking etc. And so, I did her again, back to back: something that I hadn't done in a long time.

I dont know whether its the sweet personality of the girls or their slim bodies, or their carefree way or their sheer availability, but just walking on the streets of BKK is an erotic experience for me. I met a fabulous girl on the street who works in a restaurant and who I will go to see today. We're also going to meet up with Tom, the Manhattan monger at 8:30 tonight at the Nana where he is staying. On Tuesday, we go to Pattaya. I will post a report on this later.

Don

Philo
02-16-03, 23:56
Re: Left Luggage.....

According to www.thaiair.com/thailand/start.htm there is a 'small fee' LL-facility at terminal 1 (never did an empirical checkout though). Will try to find it feb 20.......

ph

Frog
02-18-03, 00:37
Originally posted by brabreaking
......airport's luggage deposit facility...
Thanks in advance

Both are really small and if you're unlucky they might be crowded - this almost happened to me last year. To lock your luggage is no mistake...

http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/bkkit1_dep.htm
http://www.thaiair.com/thailand/bkkit2_dep.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/in/bkkairport/Bus.html

dong123
02-18-03, 01:55
I will be going to Bangkok for my frist time in May, i'm looking for a good massage place. How much should i be paying, locations, what's included? Any info would be welcome

Thanks

Bamse1969
02-18-03, 05:02
Greeting fellow citizens.

I hereby submit my first report in this forum – i have been one of those sneaky lurker – who read, but did not post (until now). I will contribute my stories in due time, here are my first break at a report from Bangkok.

Arriving at BKK airport a Wednesday end January (2003) from Singapore where i live. I was due in Singapore for some business meetings – and some time of the wagon. Time is tough in the IT sector these days – and i needed something to take the load of (in many ways) from the work and stress – so why not Bangkok.

Picked up a Limo service in the Airport – which brought me to the Hotel (Jade - Soi 22) – where i had decided to crash (did the booking over the Internet – excellent facilities, compared to the price) – and dropped the suitcase and stuff in the room – to get out in the city – to flush away the dust from traveling (well not really, but the story need my personal touch.

Found my way down to a waterhole in Soi 22 (well cant we all – even the blind can find a bar in Soi 22) – so went in, and ordered my Carlsberg Bear – gazed around the premises. Someone was playing pool in the corner – and the girl/boy ratio was 5-1 (wonderful scenario).

Clearly this was a typical bar girl scenario – Not exactly beauty striking from all corners, but they girls were pretty, young and eager to make means – so it took less than 5 minutes before a pretty little thing (age 23) was seated next to me. She got herself the famous coke (to pay her bills) and we started talking. Chit-chat for about 30 minutes – until police came by and closed the bars (1.30 AM) – and we got outside (with a couple of Black Russians, The drink) – Chatting along. She just got herself a new Nokia – so she was busy showing me what it could do – so i played along – letting her boast of her new toy. Time went by, and i could feel i was due for something more – and asked her if she would be interested in continuing the conversation (yeah, right) in my hotel.

This was an acceptable suggestion – and we proceeded of to the hotel, where there was no problem in registering her to my room – and we went up for some (hopefully) fun and exiting experience. Switching on the TV – (My good does Thailand have boring shows at 3.AM at night), but it made some good background noise – so i was ok with this.

I had hopes for a shared shower – but she said she was shy, and would prefer if we took seperate showers, so i proceeded to the shower – to clean of and prepare for action. When i came out, she had undressed and wrapped a towel around her, but it was obvious that she had a nice tight little body, about 160 cm high – and 75B size cups – which is quite ok for me. (I am 180 – and 100 kg – 33 years) – but hey, i am a big boy.

She proceeded of to the shower (took her time) so i watched some kind of show, a relaxing before she came in – wrapped in her towel. Quickly under my blanket she came – and nice to feel this body next to me. I started foundling and investigating her body, she was awfully easy tickled and it was difficult to have my ways around her – since she was way to tickley for this.

I started getting into the mood – kissing her nice body, and focusing on her nice breast (the absolute best part of her body) which were perky and wonderfully shaped – even lying down on the bed. I worked my best moves, tried to get her into the mood, she was not happy of the fact of me caressing her lower parts, so i told myself; She is a pro – she either get into the game maybe just enjoy for 5 minutes – or she can be the one doing the job for me (I was a little disappointed – but to late for second thoughts).

I then asked her to perform a blow job – Not happy about this, but i told her the famous words (there will be something extra for you), then she proceeded and gave me a good one (with mr. Condon off course – i am not stupid), she was not good, but it was nice anyway.

After getting the little brother aroused – i asked her to get on top (like to see her tits and long dark hair riding me) so she did so. In this job she was good – Putting my cock into her pussy (of fire – my good she was warm and tight) – almost made me explode – so i asked her just to sit down and look at me (i am a sucker for looking into the girls eyes. )
After a minute of rest – she started moving (and i have adjusted) – clearly she was not that experienced – but letting her do the job on top – gave me great pleasure – and i due to the short break – my cock had grown larger – and i could see it was tight for her.

She rode and she rode – hear breast were bouncing in front of me – and i was grappling on and holding her like there was no day of tomorrow – and then turning her around, placing a pillow under her waist – so i could get deep into the job.

She was not in pain (to start with), but i seem to be able to last for long time, my cock was enjoying this little piece of ass (or pussy) and i had some good time – banging her brains out. Then finally – i could feel – that delivery time was there – so i decided to give it some extra force – which did leave an impact or her huffing and puffing, the finally – i shot of my load in the container for same purpose.

After releasing myself – it was time for some water and we lay down in arms (she complaining about my size (i think it is a general way for these girls to raise self esteem with the farangs) – so we decided to lay low and have some rest.

I woke up at 9.am (i dont sleep a lot) with a hardon – she wanted to sleep, but after teasing her (and wake her) i got her to provide a short blow job, and then offered me the doggie position – which i gladly took. She had a nice little ass – and i really enjoyed taking her from behind – she use some lube to get things going, which i was ok with (no need for her to be in pain, if i am in pleasure.
I grapped her tits from behind, and huffed and puffed – no problem there. Due to the lube, i was able to get some good thrusting, but during the session, my cock slided out of her pussy, and i took the opportunity to place it in the other hole.
That made her awake – she was not ready for this (i am sure) – and suddenly there was some involvement from her side – she tried to move away, but i just laid down on her back – pressing her to the bed, and asked her to lay low – then there would be no problems.
I adjusted myself, and slowly started to move in and out – she was SOOOO tight, i dont think this one was a regular issue for her – but she adjusted (a little cry out here and there), but we finally proceeded into some action – letting me enjoy her tight behind (second experience for me – but absolutely not the last).

When i could feel it was time to cum, i took my prick out of her, replaced the condom, and placed my cock in her pussy, giving myself the pleasure of thrusting into her pussy, and watching her (suddenly) awake face. I could see she was not ready for this wake up call – so i decided: What the hell – took out my cock from her pussy, placed it between her lips – and started to fuck her face (i think i was a little to rough, but hey – i was going places with her) so just before i came – i took of the condom and squirted in her face (first experience for me) – with an amount i have never seen before.
She was so angry (but hey, i know there would be no second chance for her) – and rushed off for the bathroom – to wash herself es, came back dressed and asked for her present (I gave her 2000 bath) – and off she was.

The experience was so so, she was not really into servicing and had no interest in participating, so i decided to proceed and enjoy (live out my fantasies).
Was i to rough – Well maybe!!
Should i have asked for permission before rear entry – Absolutely. !!
Will i return to her for second session – Absolutely not.

Face: About 6,5
Boobs: 75B – But excellent handfull
Pussy: Small/Medium size, wery hot
Ass: Well nice and tight, looks and feel great.

Damage: 3 Condoms :-)) and 2000 Bath.

MuffDriver
02-18-03, 13:19
Hey LarryOne,

Thanks for the information. As it turns out, we didn't have time to check out any of the Patpong shows, but I'll keep your recommendation for the next time.

Muffdriver

PurpleNGold
02-19-03, 01:25
bamse1969:

i'm not one to flame, but i'd like to say that your post is a piece of shit, and so, it appears, are you.

first, there's no useful info in your post. only some self-agrandizement and patting your own back. no info on how to find this girl, so what good is it?

second, you raped this girl. whether or not you paid her for sexual services, there is no question that what you describe is [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). you admit that you knew that she was not really willing to provide the services you forced upon her, and that you had not bargained, nor paid for them. basically, you used your size and an intimidating situation to force her into acquiescence. that is as much a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) as anything else.

look, i understand that these girls are paid to provide services, and i'm certainly not trying to put a damper on any activities between consenting adults. but, when one partner is unwilling, then we have no right to abuse them.

your attitude and actions are reprehensible.

AsiaTraveler2
02-19-03, 02:26
purplengold;

I 2nd that! Bamse1969 was out of line. Plain and simple.

Bamse1969
02-19-03, 05:37
hi guys.

sorry to become a smart ass, but i think you are mistaken. – and excuse me, if i did not follow the guidelines of the forum, i will try to improve my skills – so let me add to the story:

a) used force against the girl – the issue of calling it [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). i certainly don’t think so. she was surprised of the action going on – but she clearly did participate to the action – and i am 100% sure that she understood that this was a part of the game.

b) second of all – she did send me a sms the upcoming day (she asked for the number in the morning) – wanting to hear if we could meat up – so i certainly do not believe that she did not provide this service to others.

c) sorry about the self-padding – i will try to avoid this in future.

d) info about the girl – well, i am sorry, but i didn’t remember her name – and i would not suggest anyone to engage her, since her general service was not that great. i had more and better encounters during my last trip to bkk – i will try and post later.

sorry if some are offended – i will try and keep the rules of the posting. but i would like to add to the comments already provided – the agreement (and participation was there) – it may just have been my description of the scenario that sucks – please forgive me.

Toosh
02-19-03, 06:52
bamse1969,

i hope the girl and some of her friends come back and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you up the ass and then cum in your face. maybe they are a little rough with you, but hey - they were going places with you.

i've never seen anybody advocate [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) here before. perhaps a little time in a thai prison would do you just fine. lots of anal sex there and no bar fine.

toosh

Bamse1969
02-19-03, 08:26
originally posted by toosh
bamse1969,

i hope the girl and some of her friends come back and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you up the ass and then cum in your face. maybe they are a little rough with you, but hey - they were going places with you.

i've never seen anybody advocate [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) here before. perhaps a little time in a thai prison would do you just fine. lots of anal sex there and no bar fine.

toosh

hi guys.
think enough is said about my mistake in expressing the scenario. there was no matter of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) – the girl was surprised – but did consent – and i would surely have backed off if there would have been any doubt. (i am not an idiot – even if some in this forum believe so).

the kind of scenario is to be compared to the fact of holding the girls head (tight) while giving a good bj – or like thrusting a little harder than you wanted to.
hey, sometimes the game gets a little more hot than what you expected – it could also happen that the girl rides you silly (almost into pain – have happened to me anyway)

anyway – no need to continue this thread, and those i have offended i am deeply sorry – and thats for the tour guide suggestion: but i think i would like to pass on the excursion to the thai sing sing – if i can avoid.

but right said – i should have asked for permission (or advised before = lesson learned) or kicked her out when she did not “participate in the game” - but you once make a stupid mistake.

PurpleNGold
02-19-03, 09:36
originally posted by bamse1969
hi guys.

sorry to become a smart ass, but i think you are mistaken. – and excuse me, if i did not follow the guidelines of the forum, i will try to improve my skills – so let me add to the story:

a) used force against the girl – the issue of calling it [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). i certainly don’t think so. she was surprised of the action going on – but she clearly did participate to the action – and i am 100% sure that she understood that this was a part of the game.


you admit that you had to use force against her to get her to submit, but then claim that it isn't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) because you are sure that she understood it was a game? how can you be sure she wanted to play? from your original post:



my cock slided out of her pussy, and i took the opportunity to place it in the other hole.
that made her awake – she was not ready for this (i am sure) – and suddenly there was some involvement from her side – she tried to move away, but i just laid down on her back – pressing her to the bed, and asked her to lay low – then there would be no problems


yeah. sounds like she participated. she tried to stop you by moving away. you, in response, used your weight to crush her into the mattress and made a threat like, just do what i say and you won't get hurt. after that...

again, from your original post:


i dont think this one was a regular issue for her – but she adjusted (a little cry out here and there)


oh yeah. she got into it. sounds like she was begging you for it.



b) second of all – she did send me a sms the upcoming day (she asked for the number in the morning) – wanting to hear if we could meat up – so i certainly do not believe that she did not provide this service to others.


1) that she sent you an sms message is not an indication that the previous activities were consensual. date [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127) often carry on relationships with their victims afterwards.

2) it is a non sequitir that sending you an sms means she provides [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)/sodomy fantasy services to other clients.

3) whether she provides those services to others or not has no bearing on whether or not she was willing to provide them to you. your own narrative describes her attempt to avoid providing the service to you. hence, it is still [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

i agree with toosh. i hope she sets you up for a date with some hard ass thai boxer types to help.



c) sorry about the self-padding – i will try to avoid this in future.


that's cool. but, i hope you don't have any other experiences worth sharing. you don't deserve these women.



d) info about the girl – well, i am sorry, but i didn’t remember her name – and i would not suggest anyone to engage her, since her general service was not that great. i had more and better encounters during my last trip to bkk – i will try and post later.


a pretty young woman, with perfect breasts, that gives this type of performance...

yet again, from your original post:


after getting the little brother aroused – i asked her to get on top (like to see her tits and long dark hair riding me) so she did so. in this job she was good – putting my cock into her pussy (of fire – my good she was warm and tight) – almost made me explode – so i asked her just to sit down and look at me (i am a sucker for looking into the girls eyes. )
after a minute of rest – she started moving (and i have adjusted) – clearly she was not that experienced – but letting her do the job on top – gave me great pleasure – and i due to the short break – my cock had grown larger – and i could see it was tight for her.

she rode and she rode – hear breast were bouncing in front of me – and i was grappling on and holding her like there was no day of tomorrow – and then turning her around, placing a pillow under her waist – so i could get deep into the job.


yep... she definitely isn't worth a go round. and, though i don't give you the benefit of the doubt, if she really did get into it and 'played the game' like you contend, then why shouldn't she get a recommendation? according to your revised statement, she let you play out your '[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a little girl' fantasy and you go around telling people that she wasn't very good because she's a little shy? not only did you [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her, now, you've also slandered her.

did you ever think she's a little shy because you're an overweight slob who intimidated her?



sorry if some are offended – i will try and keep the rules of the posting. but i would like to add to the comments already provided – the agreement (and participation was there) – it may just have been my description of the scenario that sucks – please forgive me.

forgiveness isn't mine to give. but, if it was, you certainly wouldn't get it. as far as i'm concerned, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is as bad or worse than murder. and there is no way you can support an argument that you didn't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her.

anyway. this is my last remark on the subject (you can have the last word if you want, bamse69 ). i don't want to turn the board into a flame war. jackson, feel free to delete this post if you feel it violates the spamming policy. i won't have hurt feelings.

Joe Zop
02-19-03, 11:58
bamse1969 -- the problem is precisely contained in how you've posted things:

>i could see she was not ready for this wake up call – so i decided: what the hell...
>was i to rough – well maybe!!
>should i have asked for permission before rear entry – absolutely. !!

so, you're already judging yourself as being over the line before any of us get to it. not asking permission for a little thing like anal sex, which not everyone offers or wants to engage in, particularly without preparation, is precisely where the issue of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) comes in.

bottom line -- you've managed to come off as at best a callous and misogynous jerk. if that's not the case, and this is some sort of massive stylistic misunderstanding from your writing style, some clarifying is in order. i'm willing to extend some benefit of the doubt and say that perhaps you were trying to affect a breezy, "i'm a big stud and i had my way" style, but it sure reads as though you were, at the least, a completely self-centered and insensitive asshole here, and a [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) at worst. and your follow-up post didn't do anything to improve things, frankly.

presuming that a 23-year-old, especially one coming from the lower trafficked soi 33 area, is experienced in providing anal and facials to her clients is quite a reach. many of these women, even at that age, are straight off the farm -- the last girl i was with in los was exactly the same age and just starting out. presuming she even knows what you want when you ask for it, given the language difference, is another reach. i've been with tgs older than that who not only have never given head, they've never even ridden on top and are aghast at the concepts, regardless of what they've chosen as their profession. you show a complete lack of cultural understanding, and your attitude in all this is the kind of thing that makes it that much more difficult for the rest of us, as ladies such as this naturally get more hardened and mercenary in the game. they come into future sessions wary, with a distinct lack of trust and a higher degree of worry about their personal safety, as well as with a sense that farangs don't give a damn about their feelings either physical or emotional or their personal boundaries. you sure as hell didn't. i'm with purplengold -- the fact that she sent you an sms means absolutely nothing. hell, she might have really been hoping for an apology or explanation on a second meet.

it's a buyer's market in los -- all you have to do is ask for what you want, and if the tg you're with doesn't want to provide it, someone else is around who will. there's certainly no reason to take services by force or be rough with women half your size. the fact that you say this "pretty little thing" as you've described her "clearly did participate to the action" when you were sodomizing and then force-fucking her face without asking about either isn't exactly comforting.

let's see -- she blew you, she enthusiastically rode and rode you, screwed you in multiple positions, accomodated you though half-asleep, took it up the ass and was fucked and sprayed in the face (making the presumption here that she actually was ok with this as opposed to simply forced) and she was not worth considering again. the bottom line appears to be that you decided you weren't going to see her again, so you'd just do anything you pleased, because so what if she didn't like it, she was outta there. it's that attitude, more than anything else, that's disturbing.

bottom line: being with a consenting adult simply involves getting consent.

JuiceSpike
02-19-03, 15:47
Bamse1969,

Di she ever say to you: "No, stop!" I ask because this is very simple English that any Thai hooker knows when and how to say it... Did she?

I think what you wrote is not what set a few guys off but HOW you wrote it. Your account it sure sounds conceding and victorious but you may have crossed the line into doing something she did not want you to do.

Many, not all, Thai hookers are truly sluts and enjoy getting fucked by westerners although they may not initially let you in on this. But not all girls like butt fucking and face cumming and that could be a little problem. Only some girls will do just about anything for more money and/or to experiment.

I think she will survive the experience. I have heard worse from other girls. It sure makes them harder and more greedy but they know that in their profession bad experiences comes with the territory. Many girls do things that they really don't like doing but go along because they need or want the extra money. Some have "principles" and will not do anything beyond the "normal" fuck no matter how much money is offered to them.

If she said "No, stop!" to you and you did not, you are a bit of an asshole for continuing. On the other hand I don't have very high regards for women that will fuck anybody for money no matter what their circumstances are. Some of these Thai hookers will marry a guy, or play them right and take all their money and move on to another one and not have an inch of guilt or remorse. Even so, I don't believe that any guy is right forcing himself on a girl if she does not want to do something.

juice.

Bamse1969
02-19-03, 16:54
hi all.

trying to resolve the mess i have created for myself.

there was (without doubt) consent with her – she did play the game (i admit the wrong approach was taken from me in the last part), but there was without doubt consent from her part.

she did not say no – she made a sound of surprise when entry – but she plaid the part and i had a chance to fulfil a dreams. (sorry, i might be an asshole if you believe so, but certainly not a [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126)).

i spoke to my friend in bkk who suggested her (who live in bkk)– he says she like play the little girl part – to get her ways with guys and more cash for the session– but she should be good fun for all. her name is tik – she is from north – and has been playing tricks in soi 22 in the last 3 or 4 years (he has been there since 1996 – so he knows the scene). i will submit a photo in the section (i was allowed to take a photo of her – so anyone who might want to try her – get a chance). but warnings about her service level – but she don’t mind the games, now confirmed from the source.

i certainly hope we can put this issue to rest – i am sorry to have offended the members – but after some investigation (with my friend) he just laughed and asked if i also fell for that one… i will anyway put this issue to rest by now.

Dick Johnson
02-19-03, 19:28
bamse, you are of Indian heritage?

Bamse1969
02-19-03, 19:38
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
bamse, you are of Indian heritage?
- No, i am from Europe (France)

Cchadol
02-19-03, 20:20
Here is my two cents on Bamse1969,

I agree with all that Bamse1969's act was out of line and enought said already.... but it is time to forgive and forget....

Afterall, this is a wonderful world of WSG and let's give bamse1969 some slack...

Time to move on to more fun and less contentious issue...

Joe Zop
02-19-03, 20:27
bamse1969, now I'm confused, and suspecting the veracity of your posts. First you said you picked this girl up in a bar in Soi 22 -- are you now saying that you went into this particular bar looking for this particular girl at your buddy's suggestion, that it took less than five minutes before she was at your side, even though you couldn't remember her name until now, and that you knew in advance that she liked this sort of thing? That's pretty different from the initial report.

You say she "plays the game" and sure she's in it, but consent about having sex with you isn't consent for anything you decide you want to do with/to her. Everybody has their limits, whether they're selling themselves or not, and just because she ended up letting you do it doesn't mean she was agreeing. I agree with Juice that she'll no doubt survive and that many have undergone far, far worse, but that doesn't make your approach a good one.

As I said before, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt, especially since I'm presuming from your writing style, even though you've got good complex sentence structure, that English is a second language for you, and that part of this whole mess might be caused by that.

AsiaTraveler2
02-19-03, 22:40
Originally posted by juicespike
On the other hand I don't have very high regards for women that will fuck anybody for money no matter what their circumstances are. Some of these Thai hookers will marry a guy, or play them right and take all their money and move on to another one and not have an inch of guilt or remorse. Even so, I don't believe that any guy is right forcing himself on a girl if she does not want to do something.

juice.

juice;

I don't really want to start another controversy, but if you don't have a high regard for these women, what's your feeling on those that partake of their services?

Frog
02-19-03, 22:48
Hello. I'm planning a trip to LOS next month: Nakhon Ratchasima, CM, Phuket, Samui... Does anybody know where the bus leaves to Khorat when arriving at BKK Intl. (Northeastern Bus Terminal? http://isan.sawadee.com/nakhonratchasima/index.htm)?
Won't reach the flight this day and don'T know if i want to have a stop-over at Bangkok.
(Will buy the AMAZING THAILAND FAIR from Thai Airways and then go on by plane because of short-time holidays)

Yours

Frog