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Pinaypounder
12-07-20, 22:00
I only try young, no kid, tiny and slim beauties because is raises the experience tremendously. Great sex with a piglet or a big girl to me is an oxymoron, for her beauty makes it all worthwhile. Better spend a little more and enjoy big time.I rarely do a big one. But the top 10 sexual adventures I have had have been with 30+ 7's and 2 bigger girls who literally fucked like I had the last working penis on the planet and they needed cock to cash a winning lotto ticket, OMG that was surprisingly good.
My bottom 5 experiences with been with tiny TOO tight 20's somethings.
Like the fellow said you need a connection for good sex and I agree, the fully pro face to the side experience is a non starter with me!
PP.
I rarely do a big one. But the top 10 sexual adventures I have had have been with 30+ 7's and 2 bigger girls who literally fucked like I had the last working penis on the planet and they needed cock to cash a winning lotto ticket, OMG that was surprisingly good.
My bottom 5 experiences with been with tiny TOO tight 20's somethings.
Like the fellow said you need a connection for good sex and I agree, the fully pro face to the side experience is a non starter with me!
PP.I agree with you. My best sexual experiences have been with P4P ladies in their 30's. My younger P4P ladies were great to look at, but they weren't so great in bed.
Looks are important for me too. But I continue to see the woman's beauty, even as she ages. A hot woman remains hot for me, as long as she remains in good health and takes reasonable care of herself. And some big women can be hot too, when they have big natural tits.
I think good sex with a partner is like good dancing with a partner. You adjust to the lady, and she adjusts to you. It takes some learning and experience for ladies to understand this and become good at it. And that's why older ladies are usually better at it.
But this isn't necessarily age related. I've been with a relatively inexperienced woman in her 30's, and she wasn't that good in bed. And I've been with some younger chicks, who were pretty good at taking hard dicks. The lady's experience and her willingness to learn from it is what counts, when her cocky guy mounts. Experience and learning from it is age related, but it's not perfectly correlated.
Because if the lady starts young and gets lots of experience right away, then she can become really good at it, while she is still young. And you can often see this in porn. Many ladies in porn start out when they are 18,19, or 20. At first they do ordinary kind of sex scenes. Pussy only, and maybe only one guy. But after a year or two, they often start doing anal too. And before you know, the lady takes on two guys for a DP plow. The lady might be still in her early 20's, when she becomes a full-blown porn-star, and she becomes just as as good as many other porn-stars, who are older than she is.
I think it's also okay for a guy to like younger, less experienced ladies too. This isn't my thing. But these young ladies need to get some experience with guys who like them. Or else, these ladies won't be very experienced, when they get older, and they won't be that good in bed.
When I'm enjoying it with older ladies, then I recognize the contributions of other guys who have provided these ladies with their experience in their younger age. So, there is a place for both kind of guys, those who like younger women and those who like older women.
SoberWorld
12-26-20, 12:32
Hello mongers,
Has anyone been visiting Suzie's? OMG the women are seriously gorgeous. I ask since I'm away from Phuket in Berlin and really can't partake. Thankfully they have a live stream every evening from 9 to 12 and that is something that I have gotten used to. Women like BEE and plug and of course PANG! They tend to grow on you the more you watch them. I would love to have feedback from the group if anyone has had an experience with them since I am looking to get onto the 14 + days quarantine etc and visit them.
Thanks for sharing.
HorseTrader
12-26-20, 20:33
Hello mongers,
Has anyone been visiting Suzie's? OMG the women are seriously gorgeous. I ask since I'm away from Phuket in Berlin and really can't partake. Thankfully they have a live stream every evening from 9 to 12 and that is something that I have gotten used to. Women like BEE and plug and of course PANG! They tend to grow on you the more you watch them.Are you saying that Suzy Wong Phuket is actually open? Or, are there just a few girls who are doing live video streaming from the bar?
I ask because one of my favorites from March was a Suzy Wong girl who has been in Isaan for months. I have almost daily contact with her and she has said nothing about Suzy Wong being open.
SoberWorld
12-26-20, 22:11
Are you saying that Suzy Wong Phuket is actually open?.Oh it's definitely open and has been for close to. 2 months of not more. In fact on many an occasion I've come across guests how jump into. The live stream as well on their way into the bar. Just last week they had some American dude who's popular on the local fight / comedy scene and had the girls get into some Indian wrestling which was fun to watch.
Head over to their Facebook page and ubcam find their videos there. The live stream gets close to 2 k viewers per day and a few buy them drinks at 220 bhat. Paid via PayPal. All legit since I have been buying a few of the women I know drinks.
Just a bit of fun when you can't physically be there with them.
Hope this helps.
Banana Boi
12-27-20, 05:03
Head over to their Facebook page and ubcam find their videos there. The live stream gets close to 2 k viewers per day and a few buy them drinks at 220 bhat. Paid via PayPal. All legit since I have been buying a few of the women I know drinks.Add Suzie Wong Phuket to the list of bars I will never visit. Webcams in gogo bars. Shameful.
SoberWorld
12-27-20, 06:12
Webcams in gogo bars. Shameful.Hey there's nothing shameful about it. They are being innovative and creative in today's day and age. Everyone's talking about how the pandemic is creating the need for innovation. And here is a good example of innovation.
For me, this gives me an opportunity to support a few of them who have gone back to work to make some kind of money. And FYI some of the girls really love their job and find this opportunity great to connect with fans. Look at them use terms like she's working ka (meaning of course she's fucking a customer) or I'm going to work ka. (Again you know what that means) so they don't find it shameful so why should you.
To each his own I guess. I love it and hope the others also take note and try something new to keep business alive.
HorseTrader
12-28-20, 04:34
Are you saying that Suzy Wong Phuket is actually open? Or, are there just a few girls who are doing live video streaming from the bar?
I ask because one of my favorites from March was a Suzy Wong girl who has been in Isaan for months. I have almost daily contact with her and she has said nothing about Suzy Wong being open.
Oh it's definitely open and has been for close to. 2 months of not more. In fact on many an occasion I've come across guests how jump into. The live stream as well on their way into the bar.The videos look interesting, but today I got a different side of the story from my Suzy Wong girl. She said "no money in Phuket. " I mentioned the videos and she said "You want me do that?" It is clear that she didn't want to be seen by the whole world as a Suzy Wong girl. Perhaps she wants her family and village to continue believing her cover story of working in a resort.
Luckyguy7198
12-28-20, 08:02
I think good sex with a partner is like good dancing with a partner. You adjust to the lady, and she adjusts to you. It takes some learning and experience for ladies to understand this and become good at it. And that's why older ladies are usually better at it.
But this isn't necessarily age related. I've been with a relatively inexperienced woman in her 30's, and she wasn't that good in bed. And I've been with some younger chicks, who were pretty good at taking hard dicks. The lady's experience and her willingness to learn from it is what counts, when her cocky guy mounts. Experience and learning from it is age related, but it's not perfectly correlated.
Because if the lady starts young and gets lots of experience right away, then she can become really good at it, while she is still young. And you can often see this in porn. Many ladies in porn start out when they are 18,19, or 20. At first they do ordinary kind of sex scenes. Pussy only, and maybe only one guy. But after a year or two, they often start doing anal too. And before you know, the lady takes on two guys for a DP plow. The lady might be still in her early 20's, when she becomes a full-blown porn-star, and she becomes just as as good as many other porn-stars, who are older than she is.
I think it's also okay for a guy to like younger, less experienced ladies too. This isn't my thing. But these young ladies need to get some experience with guys who like them. Or else, these ladies won't be very experienced, when they get older, and they won't be that good in bed.
When I'm enjoying it with older ladies, then I recognize the contributions of other guys who have provided these ladies with their experience in their younger age. So, there is a place for both kind of guys, those who like younger women and those who like older women.Well said. Couldn't add more to this POV so just replied in gratitude.
Crocodilexp
12-28-20, 16:56
At first they do ordinary kind of sex scenes. Pussy only, and maybe only one guy. But after a year or two, they often start doing anal too. And before you know, the lady takes on two guys for a DP plow... When I'm enjoying it with older ladies, then I recognize the contributions of other guys who have provided these ladies with their experience in their younger age. Well said. When it comes to PFP ladies, we need to appreciate all the cocks that have been their before us. They made an indispensable contribution to her skill set. It's especially apparent with BJs, it takes a fair bit of experience with a variety of cocks for a lady to learn to do it well, rather than just dipping it in her mouth.
NicFrenchy
12-29-20, 03:47
Well said. When it comes to PFP ladies, we need to appreciate all the cocks that have been their before us. They made an indispensable contribution to her skill set. It's especially apparent with BJs, it takes a fair bit of experience with a variety of cocks for a lady to learn to do it well, rather than just dipping it in her mouth.Sadly, this is not always the case. Some girls just aren't into it and however-many cocks she's seen / sucked / taken-in, skills are still as lousy as her first days of P4 P.
We live in an era where a girl could become a superstar very quickly, with all the forums / boards reviews, so all girls should try and give great service and be rewarded with more money, but that comes with a very high burnout situation and girls get tired / bored after getting 5 10 clients / day.
In P4 P, I think it's a little more complicated than it looks.
You have a bad experience with a girl. Do you repeat and expect her to be better? After all, she knows you and could be more comfortable, seeing you could be a regular.
But if you're a regular, a real regular, don't the girls want to be treated like a GF? Saying they're sad / tired so you go easy?
I cannot imagine what these girls go though day-in / day-out, but my guess is that the more cocks they take-in, the more jaded / tired they become. I still love the excitement before a session, not knowing if you're going to be disappointed / happy / blown away.
After RTF reading this forum since 2017 to the present it is evident there is a wealth of info here from all the excellent contributions. Having often visited and been mainly focused on Bangkok, I never had much interest in Phuket and never realized until now that it has had a thumping RLD Red Light District on and in the vicinity of BR Bangla Road, which includes gogos, beer bars, MPs, nightclubs and streetwalkers. The latter is sort of my specialty and primary area of interest, so I'll briefly comment on that as it pertains to BR.
After watching many youtube videos of BR back as far as 2017, in addition to RTF, it is evident that historically there have been PFP pay for play ladies working there on the street, in other words, streetwalkers, henceforth referred to as SWs, seeking to pick up customers for ST short time or LT long time engagements. Not only have there evidently been Thai lady SWs, but reports allege to sightings of Russian and African females also. Though in the video of the Africans they were sitting on stools, of some venue I assume, by the edge of the road, so not technically SWs, perhaps, since they were not walking, standing or sitting etc on the street. Call them freelancers, if you like.
Overall the lady SW scene in Phuket doesn't seem to have been as high in numbers or quality, and perhaps less economical, as compared to SWs around the Nana BTS station vicinity of Bangkok, from the Nana Hotel to Soi Cowboy, or even the Pattaya Beach Road area. Though once Thailand becomes more tourist friendly again, the BR scene certainly looks like a worthwhile number three option for SWs in the LOS land of smiles and worth investigating more fully with feet on the ground. Purely for research purposes, of course. LOL. We all have to do our little bit to boost the economy and help the struggling poor in Asia. Cheers.
After RTF reading this forum since 2017 to the present it is evident there is a wealth of info here from all the excellent contributions. Having often visited and been mainly focused on Bangkok, I never had much interest in Phuket and never realized until now that it has had a thumping RLD Red Light District on and in the vicinity of BR Bangla Road, which includes gogos, beer bars, MPs, nightclubs and streetwalkers. The latter is sort of my specialty and primary area of interest, so I'll briefly comment on that as it pertains to BR..I have been to BKK once. I have traveled to many countries, for me BKK has the most beautiful girls. Unfortunately I was with a GF at the time and was unable to monger.
On the other hand, I've been to Phuket 3 x after I broke up with the GF and mongered quite a bit! Though there may be more beauties in BKK than Phuket, I prefer Phuket because of the beautiful beaches whereas BKK is noisy and crowded.
HorseTrader
03-09-21, 22:37
I have been to BKK once. I have traveled to many countries, for me BKK has the most beautiful girls. Unfortunately I was with a GF at the time and was unable to monger.
On the other hand, I've been to Phuket 3 x after I broke up with the GF and mongered quite a bit! Though there may be more beauties in BKK than Phuket, I prefer Phuket because of the beautiful beaches whereas BKK is noisy and crowded.There are only a few BKK P4P girls that can match the hotties you see with your GF at places like BTS/MRT and the malls. Comparing BKK go-go girls (Nana and Cowboy) to the Phuket go-go girls (Bangla Road), the Bangla Road girls are hotter to my eye (and slightly more expensive).
If you enjoy the Phuket beaches, that's perfect for you because you don't lose anything in terms of P4P girl hotness.
SinfullyKorean
03-10-21, 00:51
After RTF reading this forum since 2017 to the present it is evident there is a wealth of info here from all the excellent contributions. Having often visited and been mainly focused on Bangkok, I never had much interest in Phuket and never realized until now that it has had a thumping RLD Red Light District on and in the vicinity of BR Bangla Road, which includes gogos, beer bars, MPs, nightclubs and streetwalkers. The latter is sort of my specialty and primary area of interest, so I'll briefly comment on that as it pertains to BR.
After watching many youtube videos of BR back as far as 2017, in addition to RTF, it is evident that historically there have been PFP pay for play ladies working there on the street, in other words, streetwalkers, henceforth referred to as SWs, seeking to pick up customers for ST short time or LT long time engagements. Not only have there evidently been Thai lady SWs, but reports allege to sightings of Russian and African females also. Though in the video of the Africans they were sitting on stools, of some venue I assume, by the edge of the road, so not technically SWs, perhaps, since they were not walking, standing or sitting etc on the street. Call them freelancers, if you like.
Overall the lady SW scene in Phuket doesn't seem to have been as high in numbers or quality, and perhaps less economical, as compared to SWs around the Nana BTS station vicinity of Bangkok, from the Nana Hotel to Soi Cowboy, or even the Pattaya Beach Road area. Though once Thailand becomes more tourist friendly again, the BR scene certainly looks like a worthwhile number three option for SWs in the LOS land of smiles and worth investigating more fully with feet on the ground. Purely for research purposes, of course. LOL. We all have to do our little bit to boost the economy and help the struggling poor in Asia. Cheers.I've been to Thailand 3 times. Visited BKK 3 times, Pattaya and Phuket once. My ranking of ease of mongering + value + beauty is as follows:
1. Pattaya.
2. BKK.
3. Phuket.
Pattaya: There are some rare beauties in Pattaya, and prices (I think) are usually better at soi 6. Pattaya walking street wasn't very good (very touristy and bar girls know they can charge a LOT for ST 5 k and LT 10 k + barfine). But soi 6 had a decent amount of 7's and 8's available at much more affordable rates. Also, the bar scene was a lot more fun.
BKK: Lots of choices. From Nana, Soi Cowboy, Thermae Cafe, and soapy massage shops. There's so much available in so many areas. Prices I think tend to be at or slightly higher than Pattaya (again, not WS).
Phuket: I had a fun time in Phuket and found very beautiful ladies here. But it's a lot more remote than BKK and Pattaya. I think this leads to ladies being used to charging more. I also don't think there's a lot of areas in Phuket allowing for competition. Most of the action will be either in BR or SW. I don't usually like SW, but obviously, you'll get a much better deal from them. I did see one in Phuket for 2 k. I believe I got 2 pops. But it wasn't a GFE session like I normally have with BGs (bar girls).
There are only a few BKK P4P girls that can match the hotties you see with your GF at places like BTS/MRT and the malls. Comparing BKK go-go girls (Nana and Cowboy) to the Phuket go-go girls (Bangla Road), the Bangla Road girls are hotter to my eye (and slightly more expensive).
If you enjoy the Phuket beaches, that's perfect for you because you don't lose anything in terms of P4P girl hotness.Thanks for the reply.
Off topic: it seems there were more beautiful girls on thaifriendly in 2014-15 then there are now.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2090243/phuket-to-open-to-vaccinated-foreign-tourists-on-july-1
I also hear that the quarantine will drop to 7 days to those with jab's certificate (not earlier that 14 days and not longer than 3 months before the entry to Thailand); other destinations to follow in October.
SinfullyKorean
03-27-21, 08:09
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2090243/phuket-to-open-to-vaccinated-foreign-tourists-on-july-1
I also hear that the quarantine will drop to 7 days to those with jab's certificate (not earlier that 14 days and not longer than 3 months before the entry to Thailand); other destinations to follow in October.Oh my god, I can't wait! Looks like Phuket will reopen for vaccinated tourists (with no quarantine) when they've vaccinated 70% of their residents (ETA July 1 in Phuket, Oct 1 rest of Thailand). I hear weather's horrible during July, but after having not traveled for over a year, I might just go during their monsoon season.
On another note, will they only honor the vaccine passport / proof if one was vaccinated within the last 3 months? If for example I got vaccinated in June and went to Thailand in July, does that mean I can't visit again in Oct, since my vaccination would be 4 months old by that point?
Banana Boi
03-28-21, 02:46
I hear weather's horrible during July, but after having not traveled for over a year, I might just go during their monsoon season.
On another note, will they only honor the vaccine passport / proof if one was vaccinated within the last 3 months? If for example I got vaccinated in June and went to Thailand in July, does that mean I can't visit again in Oct, since my vaccination would be 4 months old by that point?If you received your second shot in June you would not be allowed to re-enter in October. Why it's important to plan on when you will get your vaccination in accordance with your pending travel dates.
Weather is horrible in July? It's not the hottest time of the year which is now til end of May. Not sure how much worse Phuket is than Pattaya and Bangkok but rainy season is overrated in the latter 2 cities. Flooding is usually a result of poor sewage systems. It will still be rainy season in October BTW.
If you received your second shot in June you would not be allowed to re-enter in October. Why it's important to plan on when you will get your vaccination in accordance with your pending travel dates.
Weather is horrible in July? It's not the hottest time of the year which is now til end of May. Not sure how much worse Phuket is than Pattaya and Bangkok but rainy season is overrated in the latter 2 cities. Flooding is usually a result of poor sewage systems. It will still be rainy season in October BTW.Link to the three month vaccine requirement? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. Would seem to be counterproductive (and supported by zero science that I'm aware of).
SinfullyKorean
04-02-21, 20:53
Link to the three month vaccine requirement? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. Would seem to be counterproductive (and supported by zero science that I'm aware of).All experts, including pharmacies are only saying 3 months right now because that's how long the clinical trial monitoring was done for. So the wording is more like "We know the vaccine's effective for at least 90 days. " It's not to say it's not effective longer. They're saying they don't have enough evidence yet.
Just google "vaccine effective 90 days", you'll find plenty of articles.
All experts, including pharmacies are only saying 3 months right now because that's how long the clinical trial monitoring was done for. So the wording is more like "We know the vaccine's effective for at least 90 days. " It's not to say it's not effective longer. They're saying they don't have enough evidence yet.
Just google "vaccine effective 90 days", you'll find plenty of articles.I'm specifically asking for a link to a news article or government announcement (I've searched and haven't found any). What "people are saying" may not be the official policy (and hopefully isn't!)
SinfullyKorean
04-02-21, 23:51
I'm specifically asking for a link to a news article or government announcement (I've searched and haven't found any). What "people are saying" may not be the official policy (and hopefully isn't!)https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/17/after-your-covid-19-vaccination-whats-up-with-the-90-day-limit/
This was literally the second article that showed up when I looked up "90 day vaccine". You need to work on your google skillz.
Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is 90% effective for at least 6 months and protects against South Africa variant.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/04/01/pfizer-covid-vaccine-over-90-effective-least-6-months-study/4830501001/
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/02/17/after-your-covid-19-vaccination-whats-up-with-the-90-day-limit/
This was literally the second article that showed up when I looked up "90 day vaccine". You need to work on your google skillz.I was asking for a link which states (or even merely suggests) that the proposed Thai policy would have a requirement that vaccines be within 90 days.
The article you linked is about general CDC quarantine suggestions. And BTW it explicitly states that the science is as yet undetermined.
SinfullyKorean
04-03-21, 06:40
I was asking for a link which states (or even merely suggests) that the proposed Thai policy would have a requirement that vaccines be within 90 days.
The article you linked is about general CDC quarantine suggestions. And BTW it explicitly states that the science is as yet undetermined.Yes, that's the point I'm trying to make. Nobody's saying the vaccine's ineffective after 90 days. They're saying it's safe for AT LEAST 90 days. It means they have strong data to suggest that people who are vaccinated are safe for at least 90 days. Why 90 days? Because that's what the study was for in order to get the vaccine authorized for emergency use ASAP. We all assume it's good for probably about a year, but there's been no study done to prove that.
Which is why the link Run Mann posted is highly encouraging.
Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is 90% effective for at least 6 months and protects against South Africa variant.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/04/01/pfizer-covid-vaccine-over-90-effective-least-6-months-study/4830501001/As time goes on, I hope they keep revising / increasing the efficacy duration of the vaccines.
HorseTrader
04-03-21, 13:26
I was asking for a link which states (or even merely suggests) that the proposed Thai policy would have a requirement that vaccines be within 90 days.The early articles regarding the suggested sandbox rules stated that your vaccine must be newer than 90 days. I read that in multiple articles. The more recent articles that I've seen haven't mentioned anything about how new your vaccine should be.
I don't remember exact location where I read the 90 day limit, I tend to look at BangkokPost, PattayaNews, and TheThaiger. I am skeptical of everything I read in those publications.
The early articles regarding the suggested sandbox rules stated that your vaccine must be newer than 90 days. I read that in multiple articles. The more recent articles that I've seen haven't mentioned anything about how new your vaccine should be.
I don't remember exact location where I read the 90 day limit, I tend to look at BangkokPost, PattayaNews, and TheThaiger. I am skeptical of everything I read in those publications.Helpful, thanks!
Is there anywhere like Bangkok's Thermae in Phuket?
Is there anywhere like Bangkok's Thermae in Phuket?At the moment there is nothing in Phuket like Thermae that I am aware of. Bangka road. Now closed due to the latest COVID outbreak. Has a few bars where you can find FL after midnight but there isn't any single place where I've seen a critical mass like Thermae.
StudBucket
05-07-21, 20:32
Hello guys,
It looks like Phuket will definitely be opening July 1. Although July to October can be wet months (rainy), for anyone wanting to monger in Thailand, Phuket. There are definitely spots open such as the mega nightclub Illuzion Phuket and the more popular go go bars. So, all we need is for Pattaya to open by early next year and it will be perfect.
The article states:
"The national tourism panel met Friday and affirmed the timetable for Phuket to be back in business on July 1, when the mandatory two-week quarantine will be dropped for vaccinated visitors, according to government spokeswoman Traisuree Taisaranakul. The committee also endorsed Oct. 1 openings for nine other popular destinations, including Bangkok and Chiang Mai, with restrictions eased in the rest of Thailand in January, she said. ".
Here is the article source quoting this:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-07/phuket-ready-for-foreign-tourism-in-july-despite-thai-covid-wave
Hello guys,
It looks like Phuket will definitely be opening July 1. Although July to October can be wet months (rainy), for anyone wanting to monger in Thailand, Phuket. There are definitely spots open such as the mega nightclub Illuzion Phuket and the more popular go go bars. So, all we need is for Pattaya to open by early next year and it will be perfect.
The article states:
"The national tourism panel met Friday and affirmed the timetable for Phuket to be back in business on July 1, when the mandatory two-week quarantine will be dropped for vaccinated visitors, according to government spokeswoman Traisuree Taisaranakul. The committee also endorsed Oct. 1 openings for nine other popular destinations, including Bangkok and Chiang Mai, with restrictions eased in the rest of Thailand in January, she said. ".
Here is the article source quoting this:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-07/phuket-ready-for-foreign-tourism-in-july-despite-thai-covid-waveFlip flop, only believe it when you see it. Look at what they are doing now. Not what was said would be done and then they screwed up everything by letting songkran happen.
HorseTrader
05-08-21, 02:25
Flip flop, only believe it when you see it. Look at what they are doing now. Not what was said would be done and then they screwed up everything by letting songkran happen.Sounds good, but anothe zinger not mentioned in the article is that vaccinations in Phuket are now stalled. Don't know why or how long that will last, but they need 70% before opening.
Even after Phuket (and other places) are reopened there could be another flip flop that quarantines you or closes all the activities that interest you.
StudBucket
05-08-21, 22:54
Sounds good, but anothe zinger not mentioned in the article is that vaccinations in Phuket are now stalled. Don't know why or how long that will last, but they need 70% before opening.
Even after Phuket (and other places) are reopened there could be another flip flop that quarantines you or closes all the activities that interest you.I agree that we should wait and see as the Thai government have been notorius for changing their minds and pushing dates back, but what is interesting is that the announcement came just a few days ago and at this time they knew about the delays, slowdown etc. I guess with the current numbers at only 20% of the Phuket population being vaccinated, there will be a delay in the reopening.
SinfullyKorean
05-08-21, 23:24
I agree that we should wait and see as the Thai government have been notorius for changing their minds and pushing dates back, but what is interesting is that the announcement came just a few days ago and at this time they knew about the delays, slowdown etc. I guess with the current numbers at only 20% of the Phuket population being vaccinated, there will be a delay in the reopening.
The article you linked says Phuket's 22% FULLY vaccinated. This is a really positive sign. Vaccination efforts usually take some time to ramp up. Phuket only started vaccinating in early April. So if they stay on track (they'll probably speed up, actually), they're on pace to be fully vaccinated by or close to July 1.
That said, Thailand has been reacting fast to the COVID situation, so I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed Phuket's sandbox plans. Let's hope not.
StudBucket
05-10-21, 03:31
The article you linked says Phuket's 22% FULLY vaccinated. This is a really positive sign. Vaccination efforts usually take some time to ramp up. Phuket only started vaccinating in early April. So if they stay on track (they'll probably speed up, actually), they're on pace to be fully vaccinated by or close to July 1.
That said, Thailand has been reacting fast to the COVID situation, so I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed Phuket's sandbox plans. Let's hope not.This is good information SK, I actually was not aware they just started vaccinating this month. So you are correct, they are on a good pace. This is a great observation.
HorseTrader
05-10-21, 09:06
The article you linked says Phuket's 22% FULLY vaccinated. This is a really positive sign. Vaccination efforts usually take some time to ramp up. Phuket only started vaccinating in early April. So if they stay on track (they'll probably speed up, actually), they're on pace to be fully vaccinated by or close to July 1.A few days ago a BKK nurse friend got the Sinovac vaccine, she said all hospital staff with direct patient contact were getting the vaccine. She also said that many Thai people don't want it. I called some other non-P4P girls (Phuket, Khon Kaen, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Bangkok) and it seems that many Thai people don't want the vaccine. Some don't want the China vaccine and will wait for a different vaccine while others will skip it all together. If Phuket doesn't have 70% willing people, it won't be possible to reach that threshold by July.
SinfullyKorean
05-11-21, 01:07
A few days ago a BKK nurse friend got the Sinovac vaccine, she said all hospital staff with direct patient contact were getting the vaccine. She also said that many Thai people don't want it. I called some other non-P4P girls (Phuket, Khon Kaen, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Bangkok) and it seems that many Thai people don't want the vaccine. Some don't want the China vaccine and will wait for a different vaccine while others will skip it all together. If Phuket doesn't have 70% willing people, it won't be possible to reach that threshold by July.Hopefully, it's due to their fear of the China vaxx. Looks like Thailand's vaxx options will be opening up soon. Moderna's supposed to be approved this week. Astrazeneca just passed QA and is expected to become Thailand's premier vaxx source, with first batch being delivered in June. They're also trying to get the Pfizer shots by July.
But you're right. They're on a good track to reach 70% immunity, IF they're able to keep at the same vaxx rate, IF people are willing/wanting to get vaxx'd.
Banana Boi
05-11-21, 04:11
Hopefully, it's due to their fear of the China vaxx. Looks like Thailand's vaxx options will be opening up soon. Moderna's supposed to be approved this week. Moderna painfully slow in getting approved but the much bigger question is where are they currently going to get Moderna vaccines? Even some the G8 countries are currently having issues getting Moderna supply.
Bit Siri.
Thaiger saying "fat chance" re Phuket reopening. If nothing else, this is a decent reality check and posses a number of good, unanswered questions. Can't see doing this.
https://youtu.be/WbYJOGEgjAE
Explorer8939
05-28-21, 01:20
It's possible that Phuket may open on July 1, or not. But what about August 1? September 1?
Franciscass
05-28-21, 05:58
Moderna painfully slow in getting approved but the much bigger question is where are they currently going to get Moderna vaccines? Even some the G8 countries are currently having issues getting Moderna supply.
Bit Siri.From the failure to join Covax to the keystone cops style of securing vaxs one needs to go back to the Astra Zenaca licensing deal of a year ago. Enough said.
They're using sinovac which is pretty useless for jabs, 50% efficacy. May as well not bother.
HorseTrader
05-29-21, 00:37
They're using sinovac which is pretty useless for jabs, 50% efficacy. May as well not bother.Useless? That certainly isn't true. Clearly you haven't gone through the math of how a virus propagates. If everyone gets that vaccine, it might even be sufficient to drop the "R" value below 1. It also reduces the COVID symptoms.
That said, it certainly isn't in the league of Pfizer or Moderna.
There are new reports that the Prime Minister has confirmed that Phuket will be opened to vaccinated tourists from July 1, you have to stay there at least one week before you are allowed to leave for other parts of Thailand.
If phuket opens on July 1 with no quarantine, would that mean all the bars and stuff are also allowed to open? Or could it be Phuket opens but the bars and beaches etc are still not allowed to open?
Best guess is all I'm asking for. Thanks.
HorseTrader
05-29-21, 19:31
If phuket opens on July 1 with no quarantine, would that mean all the bars and stuff are also allowed to open? Or could it be Phuket opens but the bars and beaches etc are still not allowed to open?
Best guess is all I'm asking for. Thanks.My guess is businesses will be allowed to open if employees are vaccinated. Most business owners will be slow to restart operations due to lack of customers, employees, and money. Business owners won't reopen if they expect additional COVID restrictions in the near future. Girls are now back home in Isaan or wherever, many will return after tourism grows. Many businesses will never reopen under prior ownership. It will be a long process before Phuket is fun again. Months? Years?
Chicken and egg thing. Businesses need tourists and tourists need businesses.
Explorer8939
06-01-21, 03:23
The big question is whether it's worth it for the vaccinated to visit Phuket now. The governor has allowed massage shops to open as of June 1.
SinfullyKorean
06-01-21, 09:04
Most likely, Phuket will be fully open by July 1st. Only restriction may be that the business needs to be 70% vaccinated before opening?
So far, Phuket's 58% vaccinated. As for the bars and massage shops, time will tell, but it's probably a waiting game on both ends. Mongers waiting to see what hobbying is going to be like, keeping a close eye on FRs. Shop girls are also probably going to call their friends to see what tourist traffic is like. July isn't really a busy season for tourism. 1 night 1 dollar campaign might help, but who wants to go in muggy / rainy July-Sept? I'd venture to guess that tourism will start ramping up and pick up towards Sept-Oct.
The main purpose of the sandbox is to confirm opening to vaccinated tourists will work. So tourism will probably really start picking up in end of Oct-Nov as other parts of Thailand also start opening up.
https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter
Most likely, Phuket will be fully open by July 1st. Only restriction may be that the business needs to be 70% vaccinated before opening?
So far, Phuket's 58% vaccinated. As for the bars and massage shops, time will tell, but it's probably a waiting game on both ends. Mongers waiting to see what hobbying is going to be like, keeping a close eye on FRs. Shop girls are also probably going to call their friends to see what tourist traffic is like. July isn't really a busy season for tourism. 1 night 1 dollar campaign might help, but who wants to go in muggy / rainy July-Sept? I'd venture to guess that tourism will start ramping up and pick up towards Sept-Oct.
The main purpose of the sandbox is to confirm opening to vaccinated tourists will work. So tourism will probably really start picking up in end of Oct-Nov as other parts of Thailand also start opening up.
https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenterGoing to pay close attention to what's going to happen in Phuket for the next 2 months before I make plans to travel to Thailand and stay for 2 months.
Pimpampoumpipo
06-01-21, 14:10
I think in this case the supply must precede the demand.
No one will go (or stay) to Phuket if everything is closed.
On the other hand, Phuket can become a very popular spot if it is the most lively place in Thailand.
Houston Player
06-01-21, 14:25
Most likely, Phuket will be fully open by July 1st. Only restriction may be that the business needs to be 70% vaccinated before opening?
So far, Phuket's 58% vaccinated. As for the bars and massage shops, time will tell, but it's probably a waiting game on both ends. Mongers waiting to see what hobbying is going to be like, keeping a close eye on FRs. Shop girls are also probably going to call their friends to see what tourist traffic is like. July isn't really a busy season for tourism. 1 night 1 dollar campaign might help, but who wants to go in muggy / rainy July-Sept? I'd venture to guess that tourism will start ramping up and pick up towards Sept-Oct.
The main purpose of the sandbox is to confirm opening to vaccinated tourists will work. So tourism will probably really start picking up in end of Oct-Nov as other parts of Thailand also start opening up.
https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenterI read an article this morning which stated that you still had to have a visa and a COE from the Thai embassy of the country you are traveling from. That is the show stopper. Until they go back to just stamping your passport when you have the vaccine certificate and the negative test very few people are going to come. The article I read could be incorrect but we won't know for sure until sometime around July 1st. Who's going to make plans when the rules are always changing?
SinfullyKorean
06-01-21, 17:43
I think in this case the supply must precede the demand.
No one will go (or stay) to Phuket if everything is closed.
On the other hand, Phuket can become a very popular spot if it is the most lively place in Thailand.I think everything will be opened in Phuket by Jul 1. But pay 4 play will probably not be firing on all cylinders. So it'll be enough to attract the normal (non p4 p) tourists and their families. But probably not enough for the p4 p tourists.
I read an article this morning which stated that you still had to have a visa and a COE from the Thai embassy of the country you are traveling from. That is the show stopper. Until they go back to just stamping your passport when you have the vaccine certificate and the negative test very few people are going to come. The article I read could be incorrect but we won't know for sure until sometime around July 1st. Who's going to make plans when the rules are always changing?For sure. With so much changing in Thailand, it's hard to assume that reopening really means that. Their 3rd wave hasn't been decreasing at all. They could (I doubt they will) change their travel and quarantine policies at any time. That along with the rainy season in full force from July-Oct, I doubt tourism will pick up right away. But I think it's also more about testing the no-quarantine policy and make sure it's ok to open up other provinces in Oct and Jan.
SinfullyKorean
06-03-21, 07:54
According to this report, 20 tourists have signed up to visit Thailand in July:
youtu.be/vw-owqUCSoQ?t=70
forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1219176-the-grand-re-opening-just-20-american-tourists-to-arrive-in-phuket-on-July-9/.
It also says opening is July 9th, not 1st. A lot of it is probably due to uncertainty / chances their reopening will get delayed.
I think I'm ready for some Thai pussies in August when it finally reopens. Any fellow monger there right now who knows the girl situation there?
Danny Duck
06-07-21, 19:04
I think I'm ready for some Thai pussies in August when it finally reopens. Any fellow monger there right now who knows the girl situation there?Old Haggard ones are available.
Banana Boi
06-08-21, 02:52
Old Haggard ones are available.When were you last in Phuket or Thailand to be reasonably make this comment?
Bit Siri.
Danny Duck
06-08-21, 05:00
When were you last in Phuket or Thailand to be reasonably make this comment?
Bit Siri.Miss Jira gave me an e-tour. All I saw were old and ladeeboys.
Danny Duck
06-08-21, 05:47
All Thailand is same same. Majority of work bargirls are Haggard, old, unattractive, unpersonable or a combo of all.
Luckily there are Fun Mildy hot ones thrown in.
Sorry to rain on your Parades.
Franciscass
06-08-21, 12:27
When were you last in Phuket or Thailand to be reasonably make this comment?
Bit Siri.It's just my observation BB but so many times members post experiences of being here or there, at this go go or that go go and your reaction is when you were there to say this thereby questioning the validity of their post. . I know you pride yourself on knowing what goes on but would it be impertinent to ask when were you in Phuket last to know whether it is full of old "haggards" or not. Maybe it is maybe it isn't but unless you were there recently you don't know so why question the post. Most of us know there are fantasy posts on the forum not least on the Pattaya thread by some members you hang around with yet you don't seem to have any problem with those. What am I missing.
Danny Duck
06-08-21, 18:24
It's just my observation BB but so many times members post experiences of being here or there, at this go go or that go go and your reaction is when you were there to say this thereby questioning the validity of their post. . I know you pride yourself on knowing what goes on but would it be impertinent to ask when were you in Phuket last to know whether it is full of old "haggards" or not. Maybe it is maybe it isn't but unless you were there recently you don't know so why question the post. Most of us know there are fantasy posts on the forum not least on the Pattaya thread by some members you hang around with yet you don't seem to have any problem with those. What am I missing.Many of my Pattaya post don't get printed. I make them suitable for children. LOL.
Bb would go Bonkers if he saw them. LOL.
Banana Boi
06-09-21, 06:15
I know you pride yourself on knowing what goes on but would it be impertinent to ask when were you in Phuket last to know whether it is full of old "haggards" or not. Maybe it is maybe it isn't but unless you were there recently you don't know so why question the post. Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya. So if Danny makes a post that the girls are ugly then I am hoping his information is recent and first hand. Not just a guess of how it is.
Here are 2 examples of irrelevant info. Met a guy who kept pumping up Brazil. My buddy in Germany bought tickets to go to Brazil based solely on his information and found the girls not to his liking at all. Then he finds out on his return the guy pumping Brazil was last there 8 years before! Another is I met a guy who pumped up a little known hobby country in Europe. I thought OK maybe I'll give it a try. Luckily one of the guys I met in Thailand is from there and told me all those clubs this guy was pumping up had closed years ago!
So yes if a guy posts girls are hot or girls are not hot hopefully it's based on a recent trip! This is why I ask when a person was last there when the information is not consistent with what I know or heard or if I'm searching for new relevant information.
Member #4698
06-09-21, 14:26
Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya.
Here are 2 examples of irrelevant info. Met a guy who kept pumping up Brazil. My buddy in Germany bought tickets to go to Brazil based solely on his information and found the girls not to his liking at all. Then he finds out on his return the guy pumping Brazil was last there 8 years before! <snip>
So yes if a guy posts girls are hot or girls are not hot hopefully it's based on a recent trip! I could not agree with you more on the relevancy of up to date posts and the value of on the scene reportage especially post Covid on the scene reportage, but your 1st example of Brazil is a bad choice to make the point on several counts. I would suggest that you use any other country for an example other than Brazil because A) Brazil is a very popular destination and there are plenty of up to date trip reports in the SP & RJ Brazil forums and B) although Brazil aficionados tend to disagree on appropriate prices to pay (what a surprise) and tastes can widely vary with some preferring silly cones and large butts while others like myself preferring the thin, natural look; I don't think you will find very many punters thinking Brazilian girls are not attractive and or great in bed because they are very attractive and great in bed. 555.
Have fun in Phuket. I will look forward to reading your posts. IMHO, Phuket pre-Covid was best when I brought my own girl. I cannot imagine it being better as a sand box. That is another reason, in addition to all the smokin' hot Brazilian girls, why I am going back to Brazil in October for a 2nd helping and postponing my return to LOS until March / April 2022.
P.S. Have you seen BKK & Pattaya hotel rates? There are some real (pay later / no penalty cancelation) bargains available. Book now for whenever.
NB.
Franciscass
06-09-21, 15:21
Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya. So if Danny makes a post that the girls are ugly then I am hoping his information is recent and first hand. Not just a guess of how it is.
Here are 2 examples of irrelevant info. Met a guy who kept pumping up Brazil. My buddy in Germany bought tickets to go to Brazil based solely on his information and found the girls not to his liking at all. Then he finds out on his return the guy pumping Brazil was last there 8 years before! Another is I met a guy who pumped up a little known hobby country in Europe. I thought OK maybe I'll give it a try. Luckily one of the guys I met in Thailand is from there and told me all those clubs this guy was pumping up had closed years ago!
So yes if a guy posts girls are hot or girls are not hot hopefully it's based on a recent trip! This is why I ask when a person was last there when the information is not consistent with what I know or heard or if I'm searching for new relevant information.Not sure I personally would ever venture forth on a single members post. Maybe a visit to a massage shop but halfway round the world, umm?. For starters his idea of fun, which situations and what kind of women turn him on might well be different from mine and as you say there might be a credibility issue as to the accuracy of the source. So I get it, you need confirmation. Makes sense.
Danny Duck
06-09-21, 17:22
Pump and dump. LOL.
Many think Benz number 10 of Desire livestream is gorgeous. I think she is borderline really really ugly.
See the issue.
Danny Duck
06-09-21, 18:02
Not sure I personally would ever venture forth on a single members post. Maybe a visit to a massage shop but halfway round the world, umm?. For starters his idea of fun, which situations and what kind of women turn him on might well be different from mine and as you say there might be a credibility issue as to the accuracy of the source. So I get it, you need confirmation. Makes sense.Remember the Korean guys you tube vid I recommend. The one where he got upset because I didn't post URL.
Maybe he likes my tastes in Bargirls.
HorseTrader
06-09-21, 18:59
Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in July rather than having to quarantine in Bangkok or Pattaya. So if Danny makes a post that the girls are ugly then I am hoping his information is recent and first hand. Not just a guess of how it is.I was last in Phuket in March 2020. IMHO, there were more hot girls along Bangla road than Bangkok, Krabi, or Samui. The north side of Bangla road open air dance bars had many appealing girls as did some of the bars along Soi Sea Dragon. The south side of Bangla was less appealing to me. I didn't go in any of the clubs (eg. Illuzion). The freelancers along Bangla road were similar to the ones found along Sukhumvit and Soi 4, both female and lady boy, perhaps a few more appealing girls on Bangla Road. The girls outside the massage places near Bangla road looked similar to the ones you see in other parts of Thailand. This was all just a few days pre-COVID-19, so it's meaningless for right now.
Right now I have one contact in Phuket, she now lives on the east side of the island so she doesn't see Patong on a daily basis. Several weeks ago she made a walking video at sunset in the Patong beach area; the video started south of the police box and then walked north and then east on Bangla. There simply weren't enough people around to make a judgement of the quality of the available girls. Yesterday she said that a few more people are now in Phuket but not much different than before. Next time she goes to Bangla Road area she is going to make another video so I can see the current situation. I really don't expect there will be enough people to make a judgement on girl quality.
I'm also thinking about going to the Phuket quarantine, most likely about October or November. I'm giving some time for businesses to restart and (hopefully) more girls to return to the island.
Banana Boi
06-09-21, 20:36
Not sure I personally would ever venture forth on a single members post. .Agree you and I wouldn't but some new guys might. The 2 examples I gave are guys we travel with and see the girls they like so we trust their judgment. The Brazil guy we have met up in Germany FKK clubs many times. The Europe guy I spent 2 weeks with him in Jakarta.
Danny Duck
06-09-21, 22:14
I was last in Phuket in March 2020. IMHO, there were more hot girls along Bangla road than Bangkok, Krabi, or Samui. The north side of Bangla road open air dance bars had many appealing girls as did some of the bars along Soi Sea Dragon. The south side of Bangla was less appealing to me. I didn't go in any of the clubs (eg. Illuzion). The freelancers along Bangla road were similar to the ones found along Sukhumvit and Soi 4, both female and lady boy, perhaps a few more appealing girls on Bangla Road. The girls outside the massage places near Bangla road looked similar to the ones you see in other parts of Thailand. This was all just a few days pre-COVID-19, so it's meaningless for right now.
Right now I have one contact in Phuket, she now lives on the east side of the island so she doesn't see Patong on a daily basis. Several weeks ago she made a walking video at sunset in the Patong beach area; the video started south of the police box and then walked north and then east on Bangla. There simply weren't enough people around to make a judgement of the quality of the available girls. Yesterday she said that a few more people are now in Phuket but not much different than before. Next time she goes to Bangla Road area she is going to make another video so I can see the current situation. I really don't expect there will be enough people to make a judgement on girl quality.
I'm also thinking about going to the Phuket quarantine, most likely about October or November. I'm giving some time for businesses to restart and (hopefully) more girls to return to the island.Bangkok Soi 4 Freelancers and the like? One humble person's opinion-. No thank you Mam.
Indians and Arabs were always negotiating with the Lancers. That should speak volumes on the Kinds of girls they were.
HorseTrader
06-09-21, 22:57
Bangkok Soi 4 Freelancers and the like? One humble person's opinion-. No thank you Mam.
Indians and Arabs were always negotiating with the Lancers. That should speak volumes on the Kinds of girls they were.If you want a top notch girl, you're unlikely to find her as a street freelancer.
Franciscass
06-10-21, 14:24
Phuket information is actually VERY relevant right now since some of us, including myself, are considering returning to the Phuket sandbox in JulyBelieving "sandbox" means lots with tourists I'm guessing some girls who work the Phuket patch are thinking of returning in July and are already trying to lose those extra pounds so a visit could be worthwhile.
Believing "sandbox" means lots with tourists I'm guessing some girls who work the Phuket patch are thinking of returning in July and are already trying to lose those extra pounds so a visit could be worthwhile.Unless they open bars and really vaccinate 70-80% of the locals. If CV-19 spreads there you can forget Thailand for years.
Franciscass
06-12-21, 02:56
Unless they open bars and really vaccinate 70-80% of the locals. If CV-19 spreads there you can forget Thailand for years.She: Just read a report that we can visit Thailand without quarantine.
He: Let's go.
She: There are a few conditions.
He: OK what?
She Need to show proof of vaccination.
He: We can.
She: Need a negative PCR covid test within 72 hours of departure.
He: I guess we can manage that.
She: Need certificate of entry from Thai Embassy.
He: No visa on arrival, umm ok I'll contact the embassy.
She: Need $100,000 covid cover.
He: But we're vaccinated why do we need insurance.
She: Need to show proof of adequate funds.
He: OK.
She: Have to stay at a government approved hotel.
He: Anything else.
She: On arrival download a contact tracing app to show your whereabouts at all times.
He: Ok and.
She: Cannot leave island for 14 days.
He: Anything else.
She: Get RT-PCR test on day 6 and again on day 12.
He: Is that it.
She: Pubs on the island might be closed.
He: I'm not going.
Member #4753
06-12-21, 15:31
She: Just read a report that we can visit Thailand without quarantine.
She: Pubs on the island might be closed.
He: I'm not going.Basically 95% of business / restaurants in patong or nearby beaches are still closed. The place has had no tourists for.
Danny Duck
06-12-21, 17:30
Basically 95% of business / restaurants in patong or nearby beaches are still closed. The place has had no tourists for.95% could be optimistic.
As for the Girly scene I think it's even worse than I intimated before.
Even the Haggards went Home to ride out the Storm.
It seems Thailand is purposefully shitting on tourists by changing the rules every other week. People with vaccine are low risk to spread covid. Why try to plan on coming back if you can't trust any of the plans Thailand okays? Maybe it's time for me to find a new vacation spot.
Is it different groups there changing the rules or is it the same group that constantly changes the rules? And is it all about covid or are some using covid fear to change Thailand?
Mostly this is just a rant. I'm sick of covid ruling the world.
HorseTrader
06-13-21, 01:53
It seems Thailand is purposefully shitting on tourists by changing the rules every other week. Your rant is how I sometimes feel, but I'm sure it isn't purposeful. When we get frustrated we need to remember that the Thai government is concerned with keeping the Thai people alive without the excessive hospital networks available in western countries. They are also going to be far behind western countries in availability and distribution of vaccines. Terrible economy, but very few deaths.
If we think we are frustrated, imagine how the whole Thai hospitality industry feels. My favorite resort owner was forced to sell, likely at a discount. My favorite Phuket Suzy Wong girl is living with family in Isaan listening to daily shit from her father because she hasn't provided enough money to family in a year. We are the lucky ones compared to the Thai people.
I respect the difficult decisions made by the Thai government.
Rant over.
She: Pubs on the island might be closed.
He: I'm not going.LOL, very funny Franciscass!
There is one more important condition: international travellers "must be from countries / regions with a low to medium risk of SAR-CoV-2 virus as announced and constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH)."
https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-sandbox-workshop-prepares-for-july-1-reopening-80321.php
https://www.tatnews.org/2021/06/initial-information-phuket-sandbox/
Franciscass
06-13-21, 12:13
LOL, very funny Franciscass!
There is one more important condition: international travellers "must be from countries / regions with a low to medium risk of SAR-CoV-2 virus as announced and constantly updated by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH)."
https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-sandbox-workshop-prepares-for-july-1-reopening-80321.php
https://www.tatnews.org/2021/06/initial-information-phuket-sandbox/Forgot to mention, need to wear masks and social distance at all times and oh after you book your flights, hotels, get COE from Embassy, negative test yada yad yada the local brain boxes can change their minds about when this begins. Was scheduled for July1st, then seemed to have been moved to later in July and now some reports say its going to August 1st. It's a moving target with variables such local vaccination levels, number of bookings, local infection rates, level of interest from hotels and other stakeholders and obviously conditions in countries of origin of prospective visitors. Lucking Thailand is still considered as relatively low risk as regards new suddenly introduced quarantine protocols when returning home but the only reality we can be sure of when it comes to this virus what will happen is not predictable.
Member #4698
06-13-21, 14:09
She: Just read a report that we can visit Thailand without quarantine.
He: Let's go.She: There are a few conditions.
He: OK what? She Need to show proof of vaccination.He: We can.
She: Need a negative PCR covid test within 72 hours of departure. He: I guess we can manage that.
She: Need certificate of entry from Thai Embassy. He: No visa on arrival, umm ok I'll contact the embassy.
She: Need $100,000 covid cover. He: But we're vaccinated why do we need insurance.
She: Need to show proof of adequate funds. He: OK..Bingo, you nailed it. Unless you have specific girls you want to / need to see, the Kingdom, IMHO, will remain in condition WAIT for some time to come.
Personally, I am in no hurry to return until I hear that at least 50% to 60% of the Go Go's, bars, nightclubs in BKK & Pat are back up and running at pre-Covid levels. The shutdown has devastated the entertainment industry. I feel very sorry for the bar owners and the girls. But with all due respect they are not my problem, although I have been sending monthly rent money to Mini, my long time girl, since April 2020.
I am also aware that there are alternatives to brick and mortar establishments like SW's and internet sites, but the fun of LOS was in the going out barhopping, nightclubbing and finding girls girls girls until 3 or 4 in the morning. Hopefully the nightlife scene will be resurrected at some future date, but until it is I will continue to travel and monger in more functioning and more fun destinations like Brazil.
Member #4753
06-13-21, 15:14
95% could be optimistic.
As for the Girly scene I think it's even worse than I intimated before.
Even the Haggards went Home to ride out the Storm.I tend to agree, 95% is optimistic. I stayed in Patong just after Christmas it was like a total wasteland with everything shuttered up, difficult to find anything open at all. We ate at the hotel most nights.
The other side of the island near Phuket city, where most locals live, was unaffected though. However it is kind of boring over the other side, not much to do. Certainly would not want to spend 2 weeks there.
This is what the Thai government just doesn't get. The tourist market is very competitive, especially at the moment.
Tourists are not going to want to visit Phuket where all the attractions are boarded up, be forced to spend 2 weeks on the island as a quarantine facility and have to put up with a pile of ever changing rules.
It is simply not worth it and most sane people will take their tourist dollars else where.
Danny Duck
06-13-21, 20:37
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The cost may vary depending on the ASQ hotel with a price range from 23,000 THB to 220,000 for the mandatory quarantine.
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For our SPECIAL friend who really needs to go to PHUKET. LOL.
Banana Boi
06-14-21, 04:21
Thanks for the info, Danny.
Bit Siri.
In the UK 12 have died from the delta strain even though they had 2 jabs and the numbers are quite small so far, and are in the Manchester area. We wait to see how it pans out.
Danny Duck
06-14-21, 18:21
Navy sea men are invading Phuket in July.
Is Phuket going to operate for just a week or two to service these Fellas.
Are the old Haggard s from all over Thailand being called to duty.
This one I don't get.
SirWilliam4
06-14-21, 18:44
Thanks for the info, Danny.
Bit Siri.What does Bit Siri mean?
White Shark
06-16-21, 04:46
Hello to everyone, thanks in advance for your help.
Wonder and evaluating few weeks in Phuket in August if the sandbox works properly.
COE, the certificate of entry is obviously a mandatory document and it will be issues only to individuals coming or resident in low middle risk countries.
Does anyone has that list ot known where to find it.
Thanks again, stay safe and happy hunting.
Franciscass
06-16-21, 12:20
Forgot to mention, need to wear masks and social distance at all times and oh after you book your flights, hotels, get COE from Embassy, negative test yada yad yada the local brain boxes can change their minds about when this begins. Was scheduled for July1st, then seemed to have been moved to later in July and now some reports say its going to August 1st. It's a moving target with variables such local vaccination levels, number of bookings, local infection rates, level of interest from hotels and other stakeholders and obviously conditions in countries of origin of prospective visitors. Lucking Thailand is still considered as relatively low risk as regards new suddenly introduced quarantine protocols when returning home but the only reality we can be sure of when it comes to this virus what will happen is not predictable.My apologizes, I mentioned two covid tests required while here but its actually three, on arrival after week one and again after week two and incidentally at your own expense. May not be new but personally hadn't come across it till this morning in the Post but it seems that in addition to having to download the Mor Chana app when you arrive you will also be fitted with a wrist bracelet both using GPS will track your whereabouts at all times, (a sort of belt and braces approach I suppose) and penalized if either shows you moving outside the permitted safe zone during your first two weeks. Reportedly facial recognition security cameras will also be in use. Now I totally understand the allure of visiting Thailand I do and in particular the beaches of Phuket but is all this testing and surveillance really necessary or even appropriate.
Other news, holders of non-immigrant visa's wishing to renew 12 month extensions will now require $100,000 insurance policies which includes covid cover. Not going to be straightforward for retirees in their seventies. Why am I beginning to wonder am I really welcome here.
James Dean 2
06-16-21, 15:57
Hello to everyone, thanks in advance for your help.
Wonder and evaluating few weeks in Phuket in August if the sandbox works properly.
COE, the certificate of entry is obviously a mandatory document and it will be issues only to individuals coming or resident in low middle risk countries.
Does anyone has that list ot known where to find it.
Thanks again, stay safe and happy hunting.This list has not been officially published yet. They just say "Safe and low risk countries" for now so that they can change anything, anytime. How they expect tourists to plan and book their holidays but not say who is eligible to come is just a perfectly regular day of logic here. Looking at how this from within the country and the news here on how this is being handled, it's a completely shitshow. I am not sure if anyone in their right minds would be rushing to get here.
I think Thailand is doing long term damage to itself as a vacation destination. If they are that cautious, maybe don't open. If they want tourist then have criteria that is reasonable and doesn't change every week. They look like they want tourists but don't care how tourists are treated. It's hard to find needed information. No one would be surprised to get to Phuket and have Phuket close down completely. It's just a shit show by the govt.
My apologizes, I mentioned two covid tests required while here but its actually three, on arrival after week one and again after week two and incidentally at your own expense. May not be new but personally hadn't come across it till this morning in the Post but it seems that in addition to having to download the Mor Chana app when you arrive you will also be fitted with a wrist bracelet both using GPS will track your whereabouts at all times, (a sort of belt and braces approach I suppose) and penalized if either shows you moving outside the permitted safe zone during your first two weeks. Reportedly facial recognition security cameras will also be in use. Now I totally understand the allure of visiting Thailand I do and in particular the beaches of Phuket but is all this testing and surveillance really necessary or even appropriate.
Other news, holders of non-immigrant visa's wishing to renew 12 month extensions will now require $100,000 insurance policies which includes covid cover. Not going to be straightforward for retirees in their seventies. Why am I beginning to wonder am I really welcome here.
Danny Duck
06-16-21, 18:38
I think Thailand is doing long term damage to itself as a vacation destination. If they are that cautious, maybe don't open. If they want tourist then have criteria that is reasonable and doesn't change every week. They look like they want tourists but don't care how tourists are treated. It's hard to find needed information. No one would be surprised to get to Phuket and have Phuket close down completely. It's just a shit show by the govt.No damage done to Thailand. Already viewed negatively by the world.
As long as nightlife is better than other countries we will be back.
One thing they should do is match hkg, Japan, sin. 90 visa on entry. Even if only temporary.
Danny Duck
06-16-21, 19:00
Bought a drink for Bella. Payment EZ peasant.
Didn't have to join 3 sites to buy a $6. 28 drink.
Say who you buy for. How many. Checkout-done.
Member #4753
06-17-21, 01:37
The Phuket sandbox really is developing into a sh*t show. Ever changing rules, contradictory announcements from different departments. The rules are as clear as mud. Would not be surprised if they call the whole thing off with only a few days notice. Good luck to everyone trying to change their tickets or getting any refunds.
You would have to think only a very few brave souls are going to book with all the uncertainty.
BTW, currently anyone that tests positive for covid 19 gets taken into quarantine immediately and stays there for at least 14 day. Basically they put you into hospital for observation or even worse a make shift field hospital. That would be a nice way to spend your holiday.
Welcome to the land of smiles.
Banana Boi
06-17-21, 05:05
Bought a drink for Bella. Payment EZ peasant.Do you have a screen shot of Bella or url for her bar livestream? Maybe I'll bang her for you if I end up in Phuket.
Bit Siri.
Danny Duck
06-17-21, 06:52
Do you have a screen shot of Bella or url for her bar livestream? Maybe I'll bang her for you if I end up in Phuket.
Bit Siri.I'll stick this in Pattaya thread. I didn't realize I posted here. If my recommendation can get her a few $1,000's I'm all for it. Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
What does Bit Siri mean?A ruse by digital nomads that is:
1. A not so subtle form of brand 'virtue signalling' akin to wearing a red baseball hat in certain countries that like open and rational debate.
2. A game by a bored poster to see how many times others will ask what it means.
3. A diversionary tactic to hide the LGTBQIA+ connotations of the OP's forum name.
4. All of the above.
5. None of the above.
Last one included as an easy cut and paste response.
Franciscass
06-17-21, 12:01
Other news, holders of non-immigrant visa's wishing to renew 12 month extensions will now require $100,000 insurance policies which includes covid cover. Not going to be straightforward for retirees in their seventies. Why am I beginning to wonder am I really welcome here.Correction with regrets from today's Bangkok Post.
The change in required insurance cover to $100.000 for renewals is for Non Immigrant OA visas, does not apply to O visas unless that is there is not another correction tomorrow.
Danny Duck
06-17-21, 21:55
Correction with regrets from today's Bangkok Post.
The change in required insurance cover to $100.000 for renewals is for Non Immigrant OA visas, does not apply to O visas unless that is there is not another correction tomorrow.I'm hearing you have to wear a dog or cat collar during your stay. Shock enabled so if they see you doing Nefarious things they can give you a few Jolts to remind you who is in charge.
Banana Boi
06-17-21, 23:04
The latest is that you will be required to wear a tracking bracelet in the Phuket sandbox. Fuck that sh1 t! Germany here I come! No quarantine. No tracking bracelet. FKK clubs have reopened!
Where would you go if on a budget and just wanted to see a new place with a bit of mongering? Say $2000 USD a month. Phuket was easy and fun. Get laid once a week and see a different part of the world and felt very safe.
The latest is that you will be required to wear a tracking bracelet in the Phuket sandbox. Fuck that sh1 t! Germany here I come! No quarantine. No tracking bracelet. FKK clubs have reopened!
Banana Boi
06-18-21, 03:32
Where would you go if on a budget and just wanted to see a new place with a bit of mongering? Say $2000 USD a month. Phuket was easy and fun. Get laid once a week and see a different part of the world and felt very safe.2 k for girls and drinks only or including hotel and food? As you know our choices are quite limited and none of the SEA countries are open. If it's 2 k for girls, drinks, and food then Germany is doable as long as you mainly go to the cheaper clubs like Samya and Mondial. Imo for these 2 clubs cheaper does not mean inferior. If 2 k all-in and limited sex I suppose Medellin and Brazil should top your list of countries with open borders.
If all SEA countries were currently open Jakarta, Phnom Penh, and even Ho Chi Minh would top my list of budget places to visit where you can easily find girls. Thailand is considerably more expensive than these 3 countries.
Hello to everyone, thanks in advance for your help.
Wonder and evaluating few weeks in Phuket in August if the sandbox works properly.
COE, the certificate of entry is obviously a mandatory document and it will be issues only to individuals coming or resident in low middle risk countries.
Does anyone has that list ot known where to find it.
Thanks again, stay safe and happy hunting.Here is the list of approved hotels. Be aware that the prices quoted on this site are about one-third cheaper on Agoda.
https://asq.in.th/phuket-sandbox-hotels
In the UK 12 have died from the delta strain even though they had 2 jabs and the numbers are quite small so far, and are in the Manchester area. We wait to see how it pans out.It's worth mentioning that the UK has gone from 2 k cases a day to 10 k in the past six weeks, and according to news sources, 99% of these are Delta variant. Remove the Delta variant and you are looking at about 100 new cases a day. How could things have gone wrong so quickly? It's probably because Bojo the Clown gave UK domiciled Indians 96 hours notice to return to the UK or face quarantine.
Before being allowed to board flights to the UK, they were all required to have negative PCR tests issued in a country where medical corruption is notorious. To give you an example, in order to prevent the selective aborting of females, the Indian gov made it illegal for medicos to divulge the gender of the foetus. Regardless of that, 62% of all abortions are on female foetuses. Does that look like the medicos are playing by the rules? So with Covid endemic within India, and people not wanting to pay for a quarantine hotel (£175 per night), how difficult do you think it might have been to change a positive PCR test into a negative test?
Bojo couldn't organise a fuck-up in a brothel full of blind sex starved nymphomaniacs.
Danny Duck
06-22-21, 18:28
It's worth mentioning that the UK has gone from 2 k cases a day to 10 k in the past six weeks, and according to news sources, 99% of these are Delta variant. Remove the Delta variant and you are looking at about 100 new cases a day. How could things have gone wrong so quickly? It's probably because Bojo the Clown gave UK domiciled Indians 96 hours notice to return to the UK or face quarantine.
Before being allowed to board flights to the UK, they were all required to have negative PCR tests issued in a country where medical corruption is notorious. To give you an example, in order to prevent the selective aborting of females, the Indian gov made it illegal for medicos to divulge the gender of the foetus. Regardless of that, 62% of all abortions are on female foetuses. Does that look like the medicos are playing by the rules? So with Covid endemic within India, and people not wanting to pay for a quarantine hotel (175 per night), how difficult do you think it might have been to change a positive PCR test into a negative test?
Bojo couldn't organise a fuck-up in a brothel full of blind sex starved nymphomaniacs.Did you know Singapore has vaccinated only 33%.
Nobody knows what to do.
Best is to wash your hands social distance and let er Rip.
Fraudulent WHO say lockdown s are not the Answer. Head WHO man say Sorry About That we will do better on next China caused Pandemic.
Banana Boi
06-22-21, 22:01
Here is the list of approved hotels. Be aware that the prices quoted on this site are about one-third cheaper on Agoda.
https://asq.in.th/phuket-sandbox-hotelsIf the ASQ is only 1/3 more then that is pretty good. Remember the ASQ hotel also covers your food for the quarantine period as well as your COVID testing and, God forbid, your ambulance to the hospital.
How could things have gone wrong so quickly?
I haven't looked into this much and one of the online doctors can correct me but it seems like even the mRNA vaccines aren't super effective at preventing even vaccinated people from getting the Delta Variant. What the mRNA vaccines do is prevent severe cases and hospitalization/death.
I haven't looked into this much and one of the online doctors can correct me but it seems like even the mRNA vaccines aren't super effective at preventing even vaccinated people from getting the Delta Variant. What the mRNA vaccines do is prevent severe cases and hospitalization/death.Not enough data yet to say for sure what the % of vaccinated people getting Delta covid is. But despite the increased number of people testing positive in the UK, the deaths from covid have not started trending up as in previous waves. Maybe to early to tell if this will hold.
I thought asq hotels in Phuket were just hotels you had to stay at but could leave. Like you could go out and about but had to return at night. I thought they were very different then asq hotels in Bangkok. So they didn't cover food or things like that. I'm asking not saying.
If the ASQ is only 1/3 more then that is pretty good. Remember the ASQ hotel also covers your food for the quarantine period as well as your COVID testing and, God forbid, your ambulance to the hospital..
HorseTrader
06-23-21, 02:26
I thought asq hotels in Phuket were just hotels you had to stay at but could leave. Like you could go out and about but had to return at night. I thought they were very different then asq hotels in Bangkok. So they didn't cover food or things like that. I'm asking not saying.Based 30 minutes of net surfing, I think you are right. That's the concept of the "Sandbox". You don't need an ASQ hotel for Phuket sandbox. You do need an "SHA Plus+" hotel, which is some sort of cleaning and disinfecting standard.
Banana Boi
06-23-21, 05:24
I thought asq hotels in Phuket were just hotels you had to stay at but could leave. Like you could go out and about but had to return at night. I thought they were very different then asq hotels in Bangkok. So they didn't cover food or things like that. I'm asking not saying.Understood. I have done little research on Phuket. When it actually starts to happen I will research.
The 'ankle bracelet' tracking device is a deal killer for me. I'm not a crook.
Member #4753
06-23-21, 06:21
I believe the hotels are a hybrid between ASQ and normal hotels.
Days 1 to 3: You must stay at hotel, but they can leave rooms and use the facilities and services at the accommodation.
Days 4 to 7: Can go to specified destinations on Koh Samui.
Days 8 to 14: Can go to Koh Phangan and Koh Tao.
Day 15: Can leave Phuket and are a free man to travel through Thailand.
Member #4753
06-24-21, 02:07
I believe the hotels are a hybrid between ASQ and normal hotels.
Days 1 to 3: You must stay at hotel, but they can leave rooms and use the facilities and services at the accommodation.
Days 4 to 7: Can go to specified destinations on Koh Samui.
Days 8 to 14: Can go to Koh Phangan and Koh Tao.
Day 15: Can leave Phuket and are a free man to travel through Thailand.Of course insert Phuket for Samui locations. I saw the issue as posting but can't edit due to my lowly non senior status.
(old account bubba boy. With over 1000 posts. I swear!
Explorer8939
06-24-21, 04:45
Understood. I have done little research on Phuket. When it actually starts to happen I will research.
The 'ankle bracelet' tracking device is a deal killer for me. I'm not a crook.I suspect that the ankle bracelets don't exist in quantity yet.
If the ASQ is only 1/3 more then that is pretty good. Remember the ASQ hotel also covers your food for the quarantine period as well as your COVID testing and, God forbid, your ambulance to the hospital.
I haven't looked into this much and one of the online doctors can correct me but it seems like even the mRNA vaccines aren't super effective at preventing even vaccinated people from getting the Delta Variant. What the mRNA vaccines do is prevent severe cases and hospitalization/death.I reread your original post and realised that you wanted the list of countries and there covid rating by TH: Here it is, https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/list-of-countries-by-covid-19-risk-level-classified-by-thailands-ddc.
Also in response to your current post, the prices are about 1/3rd cheaper on Agoda and relates to hotels in the sandbox scheme which you will NOT be confined to 24/7. Thus you can leave and eat outdoors.
I suspect that the ankle bracelets don't exist in quantity yet.I am not sure that ankle bracelets are required. My understanding is that you need a mobile phone with a downloaded QR code so that they can do a "track and trace" on you if necessary.
Anybody currently in Phuket that can update me with the reopening of the bars, I would be grateful. Are they open yet / Will they open on Jul 1st?
I've read elsewhere that the gov is stopping bars from opening at present because alcohol increases the carelessness likely to lead to CV.
Thanks in advance.
I'm not in Phuket. But the bars are not open now. Restaurants either can now or will soon be able to serve alcohol. Gyms can open now or will soon be able too. The thaiger on YouTube is a good source of information. It reports the govt plans but with a bit of scepticism. That's where I got my information.
Hope that helps.
Anybody currently in Phuket that can update me with the reopening of the bars, I would be grateful. Are they open yet / Will they open on Jul 1st?
I've read elsewhere that the gov is stopping bars from opening at present because alcohol increases the carelessness likely to lead to CV.
Thanks in advance.
They seem to be a little slow with finalizing / disseminating the information down to the embassies. Thai Embassy in London has received no details.
I've booked some flights, an SHA+ hotel and thrown in a hail-mary COE application, 'breaking' the online application portal somewhat in the process.
If I have to re-arrange (I'm off work for the rest of the year), it'll cost me a couple of quid. Be interesting to be among the first boots on the ground 1st of July, if it all comes off.
I'm not in Phuket. But the bars are not open now. Restaurants either can now or will soon be able to serve alcohol. Gyms can open now or will soon be able too. The thaiger on YouTube is a good source of information. It reports the govt plans but with a bit of scepticism. That's where I got my information.
Hope that helps.Thanks. I thought that was likely.
Just seen some potentially bad news on the BKK Post as follows: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2138199/ironing-out-glitches-in-the-sandbox.
It appears that the health authorities are not happy at the prospect of of entertaining locals in our approved hotels. So basically, if that is going to be the rule, it's still a 14 day "poison ivy" lockdown where you can look but you'd better not touch.
I think my plans have just gone into hold mode.
Danny Duck
06-25-21, 11:16
Thanks. I thought that was likely.
Just seen some potentially bad news on the BKK Post as follows: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2138199/ironing-out-glitches-in-the-sandbox.
It appears that the health authorities are not happy at the prospect of of entertaining locals in our approved hotels. So basically, if that is going to be the rule, it's still a 14 day "poison ivy" lockdown where you can look but you'd better not touch.
I think my plans have just gone into hold mode.I want in too.
But no way with all the paperwork and then quarantine.
Once in what's there to do?
The girls are growing rice and tending to their Buffaloes.
We are the dirty foreigners,. They don't want any part of us right now.
Chill people.
COE application website has updated, showing a message that COE applications for the Phuket Sandbox will start on Monday, 12 pm Thai time.
I have flexible flights and SHA+ booking, covid test booked the day before flying to give me a couple days flexibility.
All very touch and go, but if it's a possibility, I'm going. I've spent too long trapped either at sea or on this dull and miserable little island. I'll update you guys with boots on the ground.
HorseTrader
06-25-21, 14:20
Just seen some potentially bad news on the BKK Post as follows: https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2138199/ironing-out-glitches-in-the-sandbox.Thanks for posting that good information, although I read the Bangkok Post, sometimes I miss important things. The potential rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room is a show stopper for many of us.
Thanks for posting that good information, although I read the Bangkok Post, sometimes I miss important things. The potential rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room is a show stopper for many of us.I've seen things talking about that being a rumour / misunderstanding.
I sure hope it is. I've got about 20 girls on the hook. Some real stunners and not offered over 1500 baht. Never been to Thailand, my research is telling me that's cheap for the quality of girl.
Danny Duck
06-25-21, 20:53
I've seen things talking about that being a rumour / misunderstanding.
I sure hope it is. I've got about 20 girls on the hook. Some real stunners and not offered over 1500 baht. Never been to Thailand, my research is telling me that's cheap for the quality of girl.I will give in. 1,500 baht may or may not be appropriate.
Show pictures, we can all chime in.
A True Stunner, one that Thai elite go for is nowhere near 1.5 k.
A Stunner found in a Beer Bar by an old German- definitely 1.5 is OK.
They seem to be a little slow with finalizing / disseminating the information down to the embassies. Thai Embassy in London has received no details.
I've booked some flights, an SHA+ hotel and thrown in a hail-mary COE application, 'breaking' the online application portal somewhat in the process.
If I have to re-arrange (I'm off work for the rest of the year), it'll cost me a couple of quid. Be interesting to be among the first boots on the ground 1st of July, if it all comes off.Though I am in Dublin, there is no Thai Consul here and we need to also use the London Embassy. I received a similar reply to yours. I read somewhere, probably BKK Post, that Thai gov needs to amend the current legislation to make it happen. That might explain the replies we got.
Just read this. https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2137163/rules-for-arrivals-in-phuket.
Problem for me is that I can't book a ticket on Thai airways commencing in DUB. I would need to book separate tickets for each leg. Years ago, I was only too happy to book separate flights because I could often save €50 +, but since I moved to Ireland, I've missed three connections to SEA, two of which were bought on multi-tickets. On all three flights, I was stuck in London for the night, and on the two with separate tickets, the rules did not let me claim compensation.
I think I might postpone booking any tickets until I can book a complete itinerary ticket.
BTW, I notice that the BKK post article was based on a statement by the Phuket Governor, and it makes no mention of accommodating overnight guests. An oversight? What do you think? I'm guessing that in a previous life he may have been a doorman at a Patpong scam joint who "forgot" to mention that there are "no beautiful ladies upstairs".
Just read this: https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/must-you-be-married-to-share-a-room-in-the-phuket-sandbox.
Anyone recall that US TV comedy series "Soap". At the end of the introductory credits which gave an update of previous episodes, a voiceover said, "Confused? You will be"! And so I am.
There is even a suggestion that if you bring your long-term Farang partner with whom you've had a couple of children, you may be obliged to to use separate rooms because you are not married for the first 14 days.
I think TH needs to add a new subject to it's Educational Subjects: Joined up thinking.
Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? I think I read that Phuket wants 1500 tourists a day. I think the rules they have set up are ridiculous. It seems they want tourist money but don't want tourists. I predict it's a failure. It will take a couple months for Thailand to say that then a few months to change, then that won't be anything good either. My prediction is Thailand gives up and let's people in sometime next year. Until then Thailand stays dead. Treating tourists like they are on parole isn't what tourists want.
What's your prediction?
Danny Duck
06-26-21, 21:57
Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? I think I read that Phuket wants 1500 tourists a day. I think the rules they have set up are ridiculous. It seems they want tourist money but don't want tourists. I predict it's a failure. It will take a couple months for Thailand to say that then a few months to change, then that won't be anything good either. My prediction is Thailand gives up and let's people in sometime next year. Until then Thailand stays dead. Treating tourists like they are on parole isn't what tourists want.
What's your prediction?I think they open up when neighbors open, sin, hkg, Japan, etc.
All this we will let tourist in is just to give poor people hope so they don't Riot.
Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? I think I read that Phuket wants 1500 tourists a day. I think the rules they have set up are ridiculous. It seems they want tourist money but don't want tourists. I predict it's a failure. It will take a couple months for Thailand to say that then a few months to change, then that won't be anything good either. My prediction is Thailand gives up and let's people in sometime next year. Until then Thailand stays dead. Treating tourists like they are on parole isn't what tourists want.
What's your prediction?I think the success or failure will depend on what is finally decided about the "overnight guest" policy. It seems that these have yet to be clarified. But if there is a ban on this, effectively we will become like children looking into a toy shop window. What's the point of going on holiday if your options are, 14 days hotel quarantine or 14 days window shopping?
I think they open up when neighbors open, sin, hkg, Japan, etc.
All this we will let tourist in is just to give poor people hope so they don't Riot.Not sure about the potential for riots. In a survey in today's BKK post, many are concerned that plans to reopen the entire country in 120 days time, represent s serious risk.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2139239/most-think-reopening-the-country-in-120-days-not-feasible-poll
I will give in. 1,500 baht may or may not be appropriate.
Show pictures, we can all chime in.
A True Stunner, one that Thai elite go for is nowhere near 1.5 k.
A Stunner found in a Beer Bar by an old German- definitely 1.5 is OK.Fair enough. Never been to Thailand, but my tastes are pretty varied. Ranging from 'sweet' little spinner to trashy and fake 'Insta-ho' style girl, taking a detour through MILFy types. Only going from Tinder, TF and Instagram so the reality could be different in person. And most of them will probably flake. Such is life.
In other news, I have my Shaba hotel QR code thingy. I booked the room for two guests, was asked for the details of the second guest and replied 'Booked for two in case I want to bring back an overnight visitor. ' Nothing was said.
Suck it and see. Not convinced I'll actually be flying on Wednesday.
HorseTrader
06-27-21, 14:56
Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back? …
What's your prediction?It's going to be a slow start for various reasons. Too much rain now in Thailand and better weather in other places. Visitors don't want to be there until the tourism support businesses are well operational. Thai government has made too many flip-flops and tourists worry about what is next. Too many restrictions now, will take time to relax. I don't think vaccinated tourists will cause COVID to increase.
My prediction is Phuket tourism will not be solid until January 2022 or later.
Is the sandbox going to be a success or failure? Will tourists come back?
What's your prediction?The covid numbers are not looking good in Thailand. If the numbers continue to increase then the Phuket sandbox will either be postponed, or if it continues you will be stuck in Phuket and not allowed to visit other parts of Thailand without a second quarantine. I was hoping to visit Thailand in either October or January. The current situation is very disturbing.
Member #4698
06-27-21, 16:31
It's going to be a slow start for various reasons. Too much rain now in Thailand and better weather in other places. Visitors don't want to be there until the tourism support businesses are well operational. Thai government has made too many flip-flops and tourists worry about what is next. Too many restrictions now, will take time to relax. I don't think vaccinated tourists will cause COVID to increase.
My prediction is Phuket tourism will not be solid until January 2022 or later.There are 2 types of punters waiting on the sidelines for the green light to enter LOS. The 1st group of punters have Thai girlfriends so they are jumpin' at the bit and will be among the first to return and they do not care too much if the bars reopen or not. These guys will gladly do the 14 day Phuket sandbox (no hotel quarantine) and fly their girls in to keep them company. It will be real good for them. The beaches will be near empty and all for them. Very romantic! The hotels will have bargain rates and low quest numbers. Nice! And after the 14 day requirement is met, they will be able to go anywhere they want in Thailand with their girlfriends.
The 2nd group of punters are guys like myself. We may still have a few favorite girls, but the only reason I would return to Thailand is to enjoy the nightlife scene, hook up with a lot of new girls, 2 per day is my usual, and have a great time like in pre-Covid days when BKK and Pattaya were party centers. So a sandbox is not good enough for us if most of the bars and Go Go's are closed. I have a few reservations with BKK and Pattaya hotels set for April / May 2022. I can cancel at any time without penalty. Hopefully, things will be much improved by spring 2022, but who the fuck knows. The lockdown has gone on too long and has devastated the P4 P industry in Thailand. I don't know if Nana, Patpong, or Walking Street Pattaya will ever return to their former glory or more likely how long it will take the industry to get back to normal. But I know this: I won't step foot in Thailand until I hear that at least 65% of bars, Go Go's, nightclubs, and brothels are back up and running at pre-Covid levels.
Fortunately there are alternatives outside of Thailand & SE Asia with smokin' hot girls and a vibrant nightlife scene. I do miss Thailand, but I am currently not missing out on a damn thing. Read other parts of this forum to see what I am talking about.
It's more then just punters. Will families want to go if they have to wear an ankle bracelet? How does that work at beach? Are most people going to accept multiple covid tests? Are families going to accept the uncertainty and constant changes on what is acceptable? I'm not a big monger, just a bit here and there. I just liked living in Thailand. But it seems like Thailand wants much less freedom and I don't think that's acceptable to almost any tourist who wants a fun carefree vacation.
It's not just the bars being closed, it's all the rules and uncertainty. I'm vaccinated let me be.
There are 2 types of punters waiting on the sidelines for the green light to enter LOS. The 1st group of punters have Thai girlfriends so they are jumpin' at the bit and will be among the first to return and they do not care too much if the bars reopen or not. These guys will gladly do the 14 day Phuket sandbox (no hotel quarantine) and fly their girls in to keep them company. It will be real good for them. The beaches will be near empty and all for them. Very romantic! The hotels will have bargain rates and low quest numbers. Nice! And after the 14 day requirement is met, they will be able to go anywhere they want in Thailand with their girlfriends.
The 2nd group of punters are guys like myself. We may still have a few favorite girls, but the only reason I would return to Thailand is to enjoy the nightlife scene, hook up with a lot of new girls, 2 per day is my usual, and have a great time like in pre-Covid days when BKK and Pattaya were party centers. So a sandbox is not good enough for us if most of the bars and Go Go's are closed. I have a few reservations with BKK and Pattaya hotels set for April / May 2022. I can cancel at any time without penalty. Hopefully, things will be much improved by spring 2022, but who the fuck knows.
Maybe you can update us on the first categories where western or Asian men invite their Thai girlfriends to stay with them in Phuket during the sand box experiment. I was under the impression that the authorities would only allow married couples to stay in Phuket together during the 14 day quarantine time. I recall some discussion about this qualification last week but perhaps something has changed. Also, you better be sure that this Thai GF is someone you want stay with 24/7 for two weeks.
There are 2 types of punters waiting on the sidelines for the green light to enter LOS. The 1st group of punters have Thai girlfriends so they are jumpin' at the bit and will be among the first to return and they do not care too much if the bars reopen or not. These guys will gladly do the 14 day Phuket sandbox (no hotel quarantine) and fly their girls in to keep them company. It will be real good for them. The beaches will be near empty and all for them. Very romantic! The hotels will have bargain rates and low quest numbers. Nice! And after the 14 day requirement is met, they will be able to go anywhere they want in Thailand with their girlfriends.
The 2nd group of punters are guys like myself. We may still have a few favorite girls, but the only reason I would return to Thailand is to enjoy the nightlife scene, hook up with a lot of new girls, 2 per day is my usual, and have a great time like in pre-Covid days when BKK and Pattaya were party centers. So a sandbox is not good enough for us if most of the bars and Go Go's are closed. I have a few reservations with BKK and Pattaya hotels set for April / May 2022. I can cancel at any time without penalty. Hopefully, things will be much improved by spring 2022, but who the fuck knows. The lockdown has gone on too long and has devastated the P4 P industry in Thailand. I don't know if Nana, Patpong, or Walking Street Pattaya will ever return to their former glory or more likely how long it will take the industry to get back to normal. But I know this: I won't step foot in Thailand until I hear that at least 65% of bars, Go Go's, nightclubs, and brothels are back up and running at pre-Covid levels.
Fortunately there are alternatives outside of Thailand & SE Asia with smokin' hot girls and a vibrant nightlife scene. I do miss Thailand, but I am currently not missing out on a damn thing. Read other parts of this forum to see what I am talking about.
Danny Duck
06-28-21, 00:14
Maybe you can update us on the first categories where western or Asian men invite their Thai girlfriends to stay with them in Phuket during the sand box experiment. I was under the impression that the authorities would only allow married couples to stay in Phuket together during the 14 day quarantine time. I recall some discussion about this qualification last week but perhaps something has changed. Also, you better be sure that this Thai GF is someone you want stay with 24/7 for two weeks.Virtual signaling by Thais.
Command center has been set up by Thai Seal Team Hok in Phuket to watch over Dirty Foreigners.
The idea is to quarantine not have Fun with Bargirls.
While hardly surprising to the old hands here. And I was half-expecting it myself, the whole sandbox thing has turned into a cluster-fuck. Constantly changing requirements. Every single person trying to get there is playing COE ping-pong with their respective embassies. Rejected for one thing, fix that thing, re-submit, get rejected for another.
I'm more than likely going to lose a little bit of money on this. Fortunately, an insignificant amount. Now looking for alternative destinations (I have a pre-flight covid test this morning). Mexico is looking like the most attractive option currently!
Just seen this: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-phuket-sandbox-no-money-no-honey-no-gdp-june-29.
Apparently, (at about 6 minutes in), Embassies issuing COE's will only do so if you have booked your hotel on SHA website. Same rooms advertised on Agoda are about 30% cheaper, but they will not accept proof of bookings from this source. Combine that with the fact that you can only use the sandbox scheme if you arrive on Thai Airways, and it looks like whatever you want to do, ypu will always have to choose the more expensive Thai option.
I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.
Danny Duck
06-29-21, 15:25
Just seen this: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-phuket-sandbox-no-money-no-honey-no-gdp-june-29.
Apparently, (at about 6 minutes in), Embassies issuing COE's will only do so if you have booked your hotel on SHA website. Same rooms advertised on Agoda are about 30% cheaper, but they will not accept proof of bookings from this source. Combine that with the fact that you can only use the sandbox scheme if you arrive on Thai Airways, and it looks like whatever you want to do, ypu will always have to choose the more expensive Thai option.
I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.Those Spacesuits Somchai has to wear to bring you your morning toast don't come cheap.
Just seen this: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-news-today-phuket-sandbox-no-money-no-honey-no-gdp-june-29.
Apparently, (at about 6 minutes in), Embassies issuing COE's will only do so if you have booked your hotel on SHA website. Same rooms advertised on Agoda are about 30% cheaper, but they will not accept proof of bookings from this source. Combine that with the fact that you can only use the sandbox scheme if you arrive on Thai Airways, and it looks like whatever you want to do, ypu will always have to choose the more expensive Thai option.
I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.I booked my hotel direct. I'm also flying Qatar Airways.
Had my COE approved this morning by the London Embassy.
Nobody, especially the embassies, seems to know the rules the Sandbox is operating under. Your COE application getting approved comes down to who is approving it and what they've read on Facebook!
This should be. Interesting.
Member #4698
06-29-21, 17:41
Now looking for alternative destinations (I have a pre-flight covid test this morning). Mexico is looking like the most attractive option currently!
I am going to start looking for an alternative to Phuket.Guys, this is what I am talking about. Forget Thailand. The Thailand we all knew and loved is gone and it is anybody's guess when or even if it will ever return. But here is the good news: there are countries with smokin' hot girls providing better sex at cheaper prices than LOS pre-Covid. It took a worldwide pandemic to open my eyes to the alternative possibilities because I was so enthralled with Thai girls and the Thai nightlife scene and other SE Asian hot spots as well. But I have just returned (less than 30 days ago) from a 5 week trip to South America and I can tell you that it is real good down there. So do some research, RTFF, then get off your asses and book a flight to Colombia or Brazil. I guarantee you that you won't give a shit about sand box Thailand after a trip to SA.
Guys, this is what I am talking about. Forget Thailand. The Thailand we all knew and loved is gone and it is anybody's guess when or even if it will ever return. But here is the good news: there are countries with smokin' hot girls providing better sex at cheaper prices than LOS pre-Covid. It took a worldwide pandemic to open my eyes to the alternative possibilities because I was so enthralled with Thai girls and the Thai nightlife scene and other SE Asian hot spots as well. But I have just returned (less than 30 days ago) from a 5 week trip to South America and I can tell you that it is real good down there. So do some research, RTFF, then get off your asses and book a flight to Colombia or Brazil. I guarantee you that you won't give a shit about sand box Thailand after a trip to SA.I took a long hard look at Colombia, and the the CV rates doubled in six weeks. Brazil is just as bad. CR is relatively easy to enter, but the mandatory insurance cover is ridiculously expensive and is about 3 times the price of the Thai product, and then you only get about 1/3rd of the cover. I do get the impression that there are backhanders involved in the mandated spend wherever you see it.
Just need to keep looking. I think vax passports will be be a gamechanger.
I booked my hotel direct. I'm also flying Qatar Airways.
Had my COE approved this morning by the London Embassy.
Nobody, especially the embassies, seems to know the rules the Sandbox is operating under. Your COE application getting approved comes down to who is approving it and what they've read on Facebook!
This should be. Interesting.Living in Ireland, I am covered by the London Embassy. I hope it all works out for you, and please let us know how you get on? Right now, I'm worried on your behalf that some jobsworth is going to say, "Welcome to Phuket. Why didn't you use Thai Airways. I sentence you to 14 days quarantine". Of course, why should it make you any greater a risk flying on Qatar? Flying in from LHR on Thai, I think represents a much more serious risk. Infections from there have increased by over 1000% in the past two months.
Member #4698
06-30-21, 04:07
I took a long hard look at Colombia, and the the CV rates doubled in six weeks. Brazil is just as bad. CR is relatively easy to enter, but the mandatory insurance cover is ridiculously expensive and is about 3 times the price of the Thai product, and then you only get about 1/3rd of the cover. I do get the impression that there are backhanders involved in the mandated spend wherever you see it.
Just need to keep looking. I think vax passports will be be a gamechanger.Hey Dublin12,
I think you should do whatever you think is best. I do not know anything about your personal medical history or which vaccine if any you have taken. In addition I am not from Ireland and therefore I am not up to date on the progress of your country's vaccine rollout, but I do understand that as of a month ago Pfizer was in the rollout lead in Ireland followed by the AstraZeneca and in 3rd place the Moderna vaccine.
First and foremost I suggest that everyone consult their own physicians and or at a minimum seek out the raw unbiased medical data before deciding to monger or not in a foreign country.
I received my 1st dose of the Moderna vaccine in early February 2021 and the 2nd dose at the appropriate interval. The data and my doctor said I was good to go so I went. And I can only report on my own experience which may or may not be relevant to fellow BM's.
I travelled to RJ on Easter Weekend at the height of the Brazilian variant surge. RJ was initially in shut down mode. Then I flew to SP for 14 days 10 0 f which were during the Code Red total lockdown in that city. I exchanged bodily fluids with Brazilian hookers every day during this period which included heavy duty DFK sessions and cunnilingus (much of the time) and nothing adverse happened. There are only two conclusions to be drawn from my anecdotal report: either I was extremely lucky, or the Moderna Vaccine REALLY works. I believe it is the latter, but like I said earlier, everyone should do whatever they are most comfortable with, and what they think is best for them.
I had such a goodtime that I am going back to Brazil in October for a 2nd helping. I booked my new flight only 4 days after I had returned to Florida. Ha Ha. Meanwhile I have some hotel reservations in BKK & Pattaya slated for April 2022. I made these reservations to lock in all-time low rates and because canceling these reservations will cost me nothing. But will I actually go to Thailand in April? I do not know. It depends on whether the Thai Government really rolls out the welcome mat with no strings attached and equally important what the state of the BKK and Pattaya nightlife scene is in January. January is my cut off date to decide. So, if the Thai nightlife scene is still languishing, I will go to Brazil a 3rd time or Colombia in April and be more than 100% ok with that.
Hey Dublin12,
I think you should do whatever you think is best. I do not know anything about your personal medical history or which vaccine if any you have taken. In addition I am not from Ireland and therefore I am not up to date on the progress of your country's vaccine rollout, but I do understand that as of a month ago Pfizer was in the rollout lead in Ireland followed by the AstraZeneca and in 3rd place the Moderna vaccine.
First and foremost I suggest that everyone consult their own physicians and or at a minimum seek out the raw unbiased medical data before deciding to monger or not in a foreign country.
I received my 1st dose of the Moderna vaccine in early February 2021 and the 2nd dose at the appropriate interval. The data and my doctor said I was good to go so I went. And I can only report on my own experience which may or may not be relevant to fellow BM's.
I travelled to RJ on Easter Weekend at the height of the Brazilian variant surge. RJ was initially in shut down mode. Then I flew to SP for 14 days 10 0 f which were during the Code Red total lockdown in that city. I exchanged bodily fluids with Brazilian hookers every day during this period which included heavy duty DFK sessions and cunnilingus (much of the time) and nothing adverse happened. There are only two conclusions to be drawn from my anecdotal report: either I was extremely lucky, or the Moderna Vaccine REALLY works. I believe it is the latter, but like I said earlier, everyone should do whatever they are most comfortable with, and what they think is best for them.
I had such a goodtime that I am going back to Brazil in October for a 2nd helping. I booked my new flight only 4 days after I had returned to Florida. Ha Ha. Meanwhile I have some hotel reservations in BKK & Pattaya slated for April 2022. I made these reservations to lock in all-time low rates and because canceling these reservations will cost me nothing. But will I actually go to Thailand in April? I do not know. It depends on whether the Thai Government really rolls out the welcome mat with no strings attached and equally important what the state of the BKK and Pattaya nightlife scene is in January. January is my cut off date to decide. So, if the Thai nightlife scene is still languishing, I will go to Brazil a 3rd time or Colombia in April and be more than 100% ok with that.Thanks for that.
I am due my second jab tomorrow (AZ) and it's not really the fear of infection that gives me any worries. If I am going somewhere, I don't want to do the quarantine. When I go, I can do four weeks, but who wants to spend half that time in quarantine. More to the point, statistically, the situation in Brazil and Colombia is so bad, that I think in due course, the procedure for "red listing" countries will be more stats based. That being the case, it would not surprise me to read in the near future, that travel restrictions have eased, but if you go to specified countries, you will still need to go into quarantine on return.
Just looking at the current figures, Brazil's infection rate is 4 x that of Ireland and Colombia is at 8 x. The UK considers Thailand "high risk", whereas the Thais consider the UK medium. The UK infection rate is 4 x that of Thailand. Germany wants to discourage travel with the UK in both directions. The UK rate is 35 x that of Germany.
But as far as TH is concerned, the info that is coming out of there is clearly insufficient. What happens if you arrive on a Qatari Airline. What happens if you book your room through Agoda. Can you have overnight guests? From what I've read so far, it seems that though there is no increased risk from the first two if you do not comply, you are likely to be quarantined, and there have been indications that even if you, "bring your own bottle" to the party, you may not be allowed to drink from it if you are not married.
But my reasons for being cautious are simply due to concerns that I am going to end up in some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced. I was in Pattaya when this all kicked off last year, and though I tried to tough it out, I lasted seven days after all the bars closed and that was bad enough.
Member #4753
06-30-21, 15:10
Let the Phuket Sandbox Sh*t storm begin!
SinfullyKorean
07-01-21, 07:19
But my reasons for being cautious are simply due to concerns that I am going to end up in some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced. I was in Pattaya when this all kicked off last year, and though I tried to tough it out, I lasted seven days after all the bars closed and that was bad enough.I second Natty's sentiments wholeheartedly. Never thought I'd find another mongering destination like Thailand. But I did, even better, in Brazil. It's cheaper, women are just as beautiful. GFE and MSOG are standard in massage shops (which have beautiful women).
You're worrying about "some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced". In other words, fear of the unknown. My only recommendation is to make decisions based on what you know, not what you don't. I doubt governments will require quarantine for those that are vaccinated. That would be tantamount to acknowledging that vaccines don't work.
Natty went during the first peak of Covid in Brazil. After reading his posts, I booked my trip (trends were going down). But when I landed, trends were going up again and reached the second peak during my stay. I had my 2 shots of Pfizer before taking my trip. I'm sure I was exposed to Covid while I was mongering almost every day I was there. And the vaccine did its job. Travel warning level against Brazil is level 4 (highest). I had no issues coming back.
...So do some research, RTFF, then get off your asses and book a flight to Colombia or Brazil. I guarantee you that you won't give a shit about sand box Thailand after a trip to SA.I just came back from a 2-week mongering trip in Colombia. No issues whatsoever. I was able to pass the antigen test and return the US.
I also did a similar trip back in March, after getting my 2nd dose of the Moderna vaccine. Colombia no longer requires a PCR test for entry.
Let the Phuket Sandbox Sh*t storm begin!Sat in a bus on the way to my hotel in Patong.
The shambles it's been, actually just getting into the country is a win for me.
Writing this from my hotel room in Phuket.
Actual process of getting here after the dystopian nightmare of the application, went pretty much without a hitch.
My two biggest hiccups thus far are, in order of increasing severity.
My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. I've resigned myself to spending an extra couple of hundred quid while I'm here. Contemplating asking for a discount for quantity. Though, as I did book for two, they have said I can book a girl in with me for the two weeks for free. Anybody know any depraved and wanton fully bisexual nymphets who can hold a decent conversation in Phuket?
Biggest problem. On arrival covid test. I can't leave this hotel room before the results come back, or have visitors. I was thinking of sacking it off and sneaking out / sneaking a girl in, but I spotted the Thai rozzers doing a walk around with the manager and it's put the wind up me.
It's one thing being 7000 miles away from all this easily available pussy. It's quite another being 3 miles from it.
Hopefully, the result will come in late tonight or early tomorrow. From what I've seen, the actual boots on the ground implementing the plan have been given a lot of latitude to smooth things over, overlook little irregularities, and put in overtime to get the sandbox off to a good start.
HorseTrader
07-01-21, 14:59
Writing this from my hotel room in Phuket.Great report, thanks! Please keep us posted as your adventure into this uncharted time continues.
Great report, thanks! Please keep us posted as your adventure into this uncharted time continues.PCR result back in under 8 hours, got a girl coming over now haha.
I second Natty's sentiments wholeheartedly. Never thought I'd find another mongering destination like Thailand. But I did, even better, in Brazil. It's cheaper, women are just as beautiful. GFE and MSOG are standard in massage shops (which have beautiful women).
You're worrying about "some form of quarantine which has yet to be announced". In other words, fear of the unknown. My only recommendation is to make decisions based on what you know, not what you don't. I doubt governments will require quarantine for those that are vaccinated. That would be tantamount to acknowledging that vaccines don't work.
Natty went during the first peak of Covid in Brazil. After reading his posts, I booked my trip (trends were going down). But when I landed, trends were going up again and reached the second peak during my stay. I had my 2 shots of Pfizer before taking my trip. I'm sure I was exposed to Covid while I was mongering almost every day I was there. And the vaccine did its job. Travel warning level against Brazil is level 4 (highest). I had no issues coming back.It's not "fear of the unknown". It's about risk assessment. I've read the sandbox rules, and see that I must use Thai Airlines only from a few designated airports. Yet the post I was responding too, is arriving by Qatar Airways. The Hotels being advertised on the SHA are also being advertised on sites like Agoda as compliant. Again, the Sandbox rules are that the rooms must be booked through SHA. Then there is the question about bars being open. Nothing said so far. Finally, overnight guests. It appears that only married couples will be allowed to share a room, and has anyone noticed that they are in no apparent hurry to clarify this even though they will be aware that this the main reason why most of us will want to go there?
Think about it, Will someone need to lockdown fir 14 days because they arrived on KLM? Will your hotel booking be invalidated because you didn't book with SHA, and might you then be taken to the same hotel you booked on say Agoda, and have to pay again and maybe 50%? Obviously, the rules are there and and you flaunt them at your own risk. I've calculated that I will save about €700 if I don't fly Thai and use Agoda, and that is potentially a false economy. But when you ask questions like whether you will be allowed to accommodate guests in your room, or will the bars be open, and nobody wants to answer the question, how can you assess that risk? All in all, can you not see the potential for some new rules that have yet to be announced?
Basically, on what we know so far, Thailand is a pig in a poke. If I've got four weeks, I don't want to spend two of them living like an abstemious monk.
Brazil and Colombia were attractive options, but there is now civil unrest in both countries. Notwithstanding the issues over health insurance, it's difficult to see how you can get any cover for either of those when the Irish gov website is saying "don't go". That might change after July 19th, as the gov is hinting that those who have been vaxxed, will have freedom to travel anywhere. I just got my second today.
Right now though, Thailand looks of case "Pleases sign the contract, and we will write the agreement after you've paid your money".
Writing this from my hotel room in Phuket.
Actual process of getting here after the dystopian nightmare of the application, went pretty much without a hitch.
My two biggest hiccups thus far are, in order of increasing severity.
My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. I've resigned myself to spending an extra couple of hundred quid while I'm here. Contemplating asking for a discount for quantity. Though, as I did book for two, they have said I can book a girl in with me for the two weeks for free. Anybody know any depraved and wanton fully bisexual nymphets who can hold a decent conversation in Phuket?
Biggest problem. On arrival covid test. I can't leave this hotel room before the results come back, or have visitors. I was thinking of sacking it off and sneaking out / sneaking a girl in, but I spotted the Thai rozzers doing a walk around with the manager and it's put the wind up me.
It's one thing being 7000 miles away from all this easily available pussy. It's quite another being 3 miles from it.
Hopefully, the result will come in late tonight or early tomorrow. From what I've seen, the actual boots on the ground implementing the plan have been given a lot of latitude to smooth things over, overlook little irregularities, and put in overtime to get the sandbox off to a good start.Delighted to hear that you made it. No problems coming in on Qatar Airways then? Did you see any bars open while confined to your Prison Bus?
So if I understand you correctly, I don't have to come with the wife if I want female company in the room? But I will need to pay a joiner fee. I wonder if that's universal?
Can I ask, did you book the room on the SHA site, or with a hotel booking site?
Anyway, here's hoping for a speedy lifting of Purdah for you.
SinfullyKorean
07-01-21, 21:21
It's not "fear of the unknown". It's about risk assessment.
Obviously, the rules are there and and you flaunt them at your own risk. I've calculated that I will save about 700 if I don't fly Thai and use Agoda, and that is potentially a false economy. But when you ask questions like whether you will be allowed to accommodate guests in your room, or will the bars be open, and nobody wants to answer the question, how can you assess that risk? All in all, can you not see the potential for some new rules that have yet to be announced?
Brazil and Colombia were attractive options, but there is now civil unrest in both countries. Notwithstanding the issues over health insurance, it's difficult to see how you can get any cover for either of those when the Irish gov website is saying "don't go". That might change after July 19th, as the gov is hinting that those who have been vaxxed, will have freedom to travel anywhere. I just got my second today.
Right now though, Thailand looks of case "Pleases sign the contract, and we will write the agreement after you've paid your money".This is why Natty and I are recommending Brazil / Columbia over Thailand. There are lots of variables in Thailand. The reopening program just started. I'm sure there will be lots of changes.
Brazil, on the other hand, is very open and easy to get into. I'm not sure what civil unrest you're speaking of. There was none, other than a parade of motorcyclists in support of Bolsonaro. There are also no health insurance requirements. Many have gone and are going to Brazil right now for mongering purposes. You can see all the activities on that sub (both Sao Paulo and Rio).
I am a bit skeptical of Columbia due to all the violence that happened about a month ago. But from what I hear, that seems to have died down. Not sure about health insurance requirements there, but many are speaking highly of mongering in Columbia.
You mentioned saving 700 euros if you book with certain risks. 1100 US was my mongering costs during my 2 week stay in Brazil. Hotel was less than $50/ night.
You're right. With the current uncertainties of Thailand's sandbox and mongering restrictions and activities, I wouldn't risk going there. At least until there's some positive FRs. I'm hoping they have things sorted out by Nov / Dec.
Delighted to hear that you made it. No problems coming in on Qatar Airways then? Did you see any bars open while confined to your Prison Bus?
So if I understand you correctly, I don't have to come with the wife if I want female company in the room? But I will need to pay a joiner fee. I wonder if that's universal?
Can I ask, did you book the room on the SHA site, or with a hotel booking site?
Anyway, here's hoping for a speedy lifting of Purdah for you.No problems at all with any airline. Just can't transit BKK or a high risk country.
Booked hotel direct. It was early days, so they didn't really know what they were doing with the shaba and pcr tests, but they got there in the end.
Hotel wanted to charge a joiner fee and check my guest was vaccinated. Got my test results in about midnight, got a girl here about 30 minutes later haha.
She wasn't vaccinated, but the night receptionist was amenable to my suggestion I meet her outside and don't come through reception. So no joiner fee either.
Literally the first girl to answer a video call.
Looked nothing like her pictures. To my mind, better! Very sweet 39 kg spinner. 32, saw her ID, but if she'd said 20 I would have believed her. Absolutely fucked my brains out, three times.
And in answer to your question, she says the bars aren't open.
See what tomorrow brings. Think I'm going to sort a car out and get further afield.
Excuse the crap quality of the pic, I should get a decent phone.
This is why Natty and I are recommending Brazil / Columbia over Thailand. There are lots of variables in Thailand. The reopening program just started. I'm sure there will be lots of changes.
Brazil, on the other hand, is very open and easy to get into. I'm not sure what civil unrest you're speaking of. There was none, other than a parade of motorcyclists in support of Bolsonaro. There are also no health insurance requirements. Many have gone and are going to Brazil right now for mongering purposes. You can see all the activities on that sub (both Sao Paulo and Rio).
I am a bit skeptical of Columbia due to all the violence that happened about a month ago. But from what I hear, that seems to have died down. Not sure about health insurance requirements there, but many are speaking highly of mongering in Columbia.
You mentioned saving 700 euros if you book with certain risks. 1100 US was my mongering costs during my 2 week stay in Brazil. Hotel was less than $50/ night.
You're right. With the current uncertainties of Thailand's sandbox and mongering restrictions and activities, I wouldn't risk going there. At least until there's some positive FRs. I'm hoping they have things sorted out by Nov / Dec.https://theglobalamericans.org/2021/06/anti-bolsonaro-protests-shake-brazil/
Crocodilexp
07-01-21, 23:07
My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. No longer? That's exactly the kind of a cash grab that Phuket is infamous for. If you had an option of switching to another hotel (without losing what you paid), I bet they'd quickly become girl-friendly again. Most other places in Thailand are free of such bullshit.
I'd rather pay 500 for a short time room out of spite than give it to the greedy bastards.
I would ask if they knew of other hotels that didn't charge that fee as I was going to be in Phuket for 2 months. And after two weeks I would leave.
No longer? That's exactly the kind of a cash grab that Phuket is infamous for. If you had an option of switching to another hotel (without losing what you paid), I bet they'd quickly become girl-friendly again. Most other places in Thailand are free of such bullshit.
I'd rather pay 500 for a short time room out of spite than give it to the greedy bastards.
Banana Boi
07-02-21, 01:52
My hotel is no longer girl friendly. They want a 500 baht joiner fee per girl. Did you book your room for 2 people? If not, some hotels in Thailand will ask for a joiner fee. If you booked for 2, see Croc's post.
SinfullyKorean
07-02-21, 02:11
https://theglobalamericans.org/2021/06/anti-bolsonaro-protests-shake-brazil/That report was from a month ago and specifically says that Rio and SP protests were peaceful.
HorseTrader
07-02-21, 03:43
Did you book your room for 2 people? If not, some hotels in Thailand will ask for a joiner fee. If you booked for 2, see Croc's post.There is also a hybrid between guest friendly and not guest friendly. One of my Phuket hotels required that my guest be fully registered and given full hotel privileges for the duration of my stay (order room service, drinks at pool, laundry service etc.). This same hotel was temporary-guest friendly to a limited extent, dropping off ID at front desk and joining me in the room was fine, but she was not allowed breakfast or pool privileges. This was pre-COVID.
HorseTrader
07-02-21, 03:58
This is why Natty and I are recommending Brazil / Columbia over Thailand.Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women. In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.
Did you book your room for 2 people? If not, some hotels in Thailand will ask for a joiner fee. If you booked for 2, see Croc's post.Even if we book a double room(for two) some hotels (very few) in Pattaya demands for a joiner fee 600 or 400 bath. I think it is a tourist trap. Before booking the hotel I cross check it.
Banana Boi
07-02-21, 05:28
Even if we book a double room(for two) some hotels (very few) in Pattaya demands for a joiner fee 600 or 400 bath. I think it is a tourist trap. Before booking the hotel I cross check it.Why quote me in your post? I never said they don't! I was just stating that some guys are not aware you have to book a room for 2, girl friendly or not!
Bit Siri.
Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women. In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.I also never visited South America. But I had a great time with a Bogota lady in New Jersey. She was awesome. Either Madrid or straight SaoPaulo is still in my bucket list to have some fun with Latinos. I love that big structure with big round accessories.
Danny Duck
07-02-21, 06:01
I also never visited South America. But I had a great time with a Bogota lady in New Jersey. She was awesome. Either Madrid or straight SaoPaulo is still in my bucket list to have some fun with Latinos. I love that big structure with big round accessories.Lots of Thais have bubble butts and bubble boobs.
Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women...Not true, you can find all kinds of women in South America, spinners, tall and slim, athletic type, and so on. I even had an ATF (all time favorite) girl in Colombia, who was of Japanese decent. She looked Japanese but was very much Colombian in her behavior.
...In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.To the contrary, there is a lot to see and do in a place like Rio or Buenos Aires. Other places that I have visited not so much.
Indeed, safety can be an issue. One has to be a lot more careful in South America than in Thailand. I am lucky in that I can blend in with the locals easily and I speak decent Spanish. I have also been to Colombia on 25+ trips, and I have taken just as many trips to Thailand and South East Asia. I have met many US expats in Colombia who have the gringo look that can be spotted a mile away, yet they still manage to practice safe behavior.
I also never visited South America. But I had a great time with a Bogota lady in New Jersey. She was awesome. Either Madrid or straight SaoPaulo is still in my bucket list to have some fun with Latinos. I love that big structure with big round accessories.I have never mongered in Madrid but did in Barcelona. My suspicion is that the 2 Spanish cities offer similar platforms for mongering, I,e, casa like services.
If that's the case, Saõ Paulo offers more and better venues. They have clinicas which are similar to casas in Spain, but they also have clubs, like Scandallo, which are far superior.
...I am a bit skeptical of Columbia due to all the violence that happened about a month ago. But from what I hear, that seems to have died down. Not sure about health insurance requirements there, but many are speaking highly of mongering in Columbia...It's spelled Colombia, with an O.
I was just there not too long ago and spent 2 weeks in Medellin. The violence was mostly in a city called Cali. I was staying in a nice part of the town called Poblado. I avoided downtown (known there as centro) completely, because there were some disturbances there. Hence I did not experience any negative fallout at all.
In regard with health insurance and other requirements, I recommend one of the Colombian ISG forums, such as Bogota, Cartagena, or Medellin.
SinfullyKorean
07-02-21, 07:55
Though I've never been to South America, my perception is that the women are larger and more aggressive. I like the small, demure Asian women and am not sure I would like the South American women. In Thailand, I can always find something non-sexual to do and have always felt safe (beaches, temples, markets, food, tours, shopping, and just wandering about), I'm not confident the same would be true for me in South America. Still, recent reports on South America have piqued my interest, it's time to look into a trip.To a very small extent, you're correct. On average, Brazilian women are bigger than Asian women. I mostly prefer Asian women, too. But my trip to SP and Rio was eye opening. There are definitely spinners and pleasers in Brazil, too. One major difference is that most Thai girls I've seen available are usually 8's. I've hardly seen 9's or 10's. But in Brazil, it is not difficult to find 9's and 10's. If you have a chance, you should definitely try Sao Paulo.
Also, you're right about other activities, especially in Sao Paulo. It is pretty safe. But outside of mongering, there's not much else to do there.
That report was from a month ago and specifically says that Rio and SP protests were peaceful.So you've gone from, "I'm not sure what civil unrest you're speaking of", to that reply. Here is a more recent report (June 20th) specific to SP. An anti-gov demonstration is by definition, civil unrest. The fact that cops are not bashing skulls in does not change that.
But here's a thought for you: President Balls-up is facing an election next year. His poll numbers are dwindling daily. There are parliamentary enquiries taking place that every day continue to embarrass him personally, and the people are demanding a lockdown in order to reduce the infections. Balls-up is an arch populist. Would you bet against him either trying to get tough with the protestors, or caving in to them with a lockdown to save himself in next years elections? And if he does nothing, would you bet against him being impeached?
Even if we book a double room(for two) some hotels (very few) in Pattaya demands for a joiner fee 600 or 400 bath. I think it is a tourist trap. Before booking the hotel I cross check it.Based on Horse Traders report, I am beginning to think that Phuket is a very viable option. As you say, check with the hotel first.
Normally, if you go through a booking site, it is very difficult to find email addresses for the Hotel. Clearly, Agoda or whoever don't want you talking directly with them in case you cut them out. However, this time it's a lot easier. Here is a complete list of SHA hotels: https://asq.in.th/phuket-sandbox-hotels The beauty is that you do not book from this site but you fill out an enquiry form, and they reply to you by email at which time you can then raise any questions.
Here is a copy and paste of my email to Clover Hotel in Patong:
Hi,
I have a few questions before I make a booking. Hopefully, you can help me.
Can you tell me what is your cancellation policy in case I am prevented from travelling due to new local or international restrictions?
Can you tell me what the hotel's policy is on overnight guests, as I will be booking a double room?
I have read that in order to qualify for the Sandbox scheme, I must book the room on an approved website, and not on a booking site such as Agoda. If I book with you, will Thai immigration accept the booking as valid?
Thanks and best wishes.
I received the following reply:
1. Can you tell me what is your cancellation policy in case I am prevented from travelling due to new local or international restrictions?
Answer: regarding your questing incase your COE not approve will agree to cancel your booking without charge.
2. Can you tell me what the hotel's policy is on overnight guests, as I will be booking a double room?
Answer: Incase you have friend need to share your room during stay we are agree the but kind to share name of guest to be overnight with you.
3. I have read that in order to qualify for the Sandbox scheme, I must book the room on an approved website, and not on a booking site such as Agoda. If I book with you, will Thai immigration accept the booking as valid?
Answer: the booking you can do of each channel, recommend book here should be better incase you have problem can find some solution.
That left the "joiner fee" question a bit vague so I wrote again:
Dear Kie,
Thank you for your reply. One final question please. Regarding overnight guests, do you charge "joiner fees"?
If not, I am quite happy to book and pay for the whole 27 night stay in advance.
Thanks and best wishes.
John.
Reply received:
Dear John.
Thank you for your email. Regarding Joiner they are coming together with your or separate period if they are separate period kind to inform us for they name the condition without charge.
Suddenly, Thailand looks like a "go".
All I'm waiting for now is for the Irish gov to confirm that fully vaxxed will be able to travel without restrictions, w. E. f. From July 19th, and that the bars will be open in Phuket and I will be making a booking.
Due diligence is the order of the day.
There's one bar open at the moment. Sweeties. Played some pool and got some line ids from the girls, a couple of stunning spinners and one that may be legally a midget. Tempted.
Ultimately, couldn't get the cutie with a booty out of my mind. She's coming over now to finish some unfinished business. Namely, me cumming in her arse.
There's one bar open at the moment. Sweeties. Played some pool and got some line ids from the girls, a couple of stunning spinners and one that may be legally a midget. Tempted.
Ultimately, couldn't get the cutie with a booty out of my mind. She's coming over now to finish some unfinished business. Namely, me cumming in her arse.Turns out, my earlier report didn't post.
Cute with a booty. 4'11,85 lbs, 32 but could pass for 18. First girl to respond when I got out of lockdown.
No better options for say two so I had her over again.
HorseTrader
07-03-21, 01:36
Turns out, my earlier report didn't post.
Cute with a booty. 4'11,85 lbs, 32 but could pass for 18. First girl to respond when I got out of lockdown.
No better options for say two so I had her over again.Thanks! Many of us will live vicariously through your text and pictures.
Did you ever get confirmation that there is no rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room?
SinfullyKorean
07-03-21, 04:57
Turns out, my earlier report didn't post.
Cute with a booty. 4'11,85 lbs, 32 but could pass for 18. First girl to respond when I got out of lockdown.
No better options for say two so I had her over again.Nice report. I hope we see many more (from others, too). How much did you pay her?
Thanks! Many of us will live vicariously through your text and pictures.
Did you ever get confirmation that there is no rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room?My hotel said I could sign a girl in with me for two weeks for free as I'd booked for two, or else pay a 500 thb joiner fee per girl. So yes, you can definitely share with a local. When I asked the first night when cutie with a booty was on her way, they said guests would need to be fully vaccinated. CWB wasn't. I slipped the night receptionist and the security guard a couple hundred baht each and nothing has been said about me skirting reception and going straight to my room with CWB, so I think I'm golden.
Night security guard keeps giving me a grin and a thumbs up every time I pass him.
Nice report. I hope we see many more (from others, too). How much did you pay her?She actually came over with no discussion on price. First night, 'short time' she stayed for about three or four hours and only left because I was falling asleep (had only about two hours sleep in 24.) I gave her 1500 (which she was very happy with) plus 100 thb for 'taxi' (her friend on a moped.) I'd actually given up on the idea of getting out of quarantine before the next day, so I couldn't resist a wank. Despite that, she managed to get me off three times, all BBFSCIP in different positions. I didn't ask, I just went for it after giving her oral (one of my talents, if I say so myself.) Super tight, super clean and super enthusiastic. What girls in the UK would call a hybrid 'GFE / PSE', felt like just having a nympho girlfriend.
Second time, I gave her 2500 (+100) for long time. She came over at 11:30 pm, stayed till 11:30 am (despite having said she could only stay till 5:30 am.) Started off with trying anal, used a whole tube of lube (Where the fuck can I buy an actual decent sized bottle of lube in Thailand? Could only find the small tubes), got it in to the hilt but it was just hurting her too much and I think the neighbours were banging on the wall from the noise. Fucked her in the pussy instead in every position I could think of, came. After cleanup, we talked and watched TikTok videos and I saw some of her friends. One of who I've been talking to on TF and was high on my list to see (CWB, unbelievably, wasn't. Rare instance when I was more into the girl that turned up than the pictures she uses on social media) and CWB confirmed a threesome could happen. Lots of talking while we shared a beer, kissing, touching, oral. And I was ready to go again. Reverse cowgirl, letting her control the pace.
Probably 2:30 am by this point, so we tried to sleep. (I'm still jetlagged to fuck.) Super close, affectionate 'spooning', hands roaming each other. She kept wriggling, touching my dick. And doing some stretches for her 'bad back. ' (See attached image) Inevitably, I was ready to go again. Slow-paced bone in the spoons position, fell asleep still inside her. Kept getting woken up in the night by her wriggling closer, pulling my arm over her, snuggling into my chest etc. Super, super sweet.
Slept till about 10 am, woke up before her. Woke her up with gentle touches, tickles, small kisses. 'Warmed her up' (she was that tight and tiny, I had to get her really worked up and wet before fucking.) Missionary this time, legs wrapped around my waist, nails scratching at my back and alternating between kissing and her biting on my collarbone. She really sold the orgasms and moaning and promised I'd actually made her cum three times. I definitely did with oral, but I'm not sure about sex. Not sure. I choose to believe I did.
Showered together, then I walked her out, getting the evils from some backpacker chicks haha.
Plan today is to resist my temptation to get CWB over again, get a massage (and resist the inevitable happy ending, though probably not) and suss out renting a car for a few days. If my batteries have recharged, I'll think about getting another of my TF prospects over.
Pretty much all the game is online. In Sweeties, the only bar open in Patong, there was maybe about five or six girls and it seemed like they weren't very available (did get some line IDs though.) Beach Road was absolutely deserted. No girls whatsoever when I left Sweeties at 11 pm (it was only allowed to stay open till AM.).
Stradivari
07-03-21, 16:57
Thanks! Many of us will live vicariously through your text and pictures.
Did you ever get confirmation that there is no rule against tourists and locals sharing a hotel room?I was told by the hotel that for the first night, no joiner would be allowed in my room (because the first night until the results of the day one test is available is considered to be quarantine). I draw the conclusion that from the second night, an unmarried local guest will be allowed. But for myself I decided against travelling to Phuket in July and I am still looking for alternatives (SDQ, POP, MBA, ZNZ, DSS, BJL. But flight prices are ridiculously expensive these days).
I was told by the hotel that for the first night, no joiner would be allowed in my room (because the first night until the results of the day one test is available is considered to be quarantine). I draw the conclusion that from the second night, an unmarried local guest will be allowed. But for myself I decided against travelling to Phuket in July and I am still looking for alternatives (SDQ, POP, MBA, ZNZ, DSS, BJL. But flight prices are ridiculously expensive these days).The flip flop nature of theThai gov't can change all the rules at the drop of a hat. Even if their scheme works technically but an infected Thai sneaks in to Phuket and cases show up. OMG the lockdowns and int'l flights in and out may be in Jeopardy.
She kept wriggling, touching my dick. And doing some stretches for her 'bad back. ' (See attached image) Image didn't attach. I'm not very good at this photography stuff, but try again. And another one of CWB for good luck. Again, crap quality.
After cleanup, we talked and watched TikTok videos and I saw some of her friends. One of who I've been talking to on TF and was high on my list to see (CWB, unbelievably, wasn't. Rare instance when I was more into the girl that turned up than the pictures she uses on social media) and CWB confirmed a threesome could happen.So, as it turns out, CWB meant she would do a threesome. But not with this girl, who shall henceforth be known as PTC (Punky Tattooed Chick.) Turns out, PTC was her very best friend. And she even strongly hinted she didn't want me to even see PTC.
So of course within about five minutes of that Line conversation with CWB, I'm chatting to PTC. Set a date for 11 pm at my hotel. Is it bad that I have every intention of trying to talk PTC and CWB into a threesome? Best friends, sisters almost. Haha.
Most of the day was spent chilling by the hotel pool. Hotel is very busy this weekend with Thais. Very interesting watching them taking pictures of eachother for their dating profiles, facebook. Gave some of them the 'eye', but no luck.
Headed into Patong about 7 pm. Bangla Street was quiet again, just the one bar open. Sweeties. Girl I played Pool with the other night tried to drag me in, but I told her I was going to go eat. She's a little too much 'bar girl' for my tastes, but she had good banter so I might hang out with her.
Beach Road was busy. Live music, fireworks, fire dancers. A 'Welcome Back to Phuket' event. Lots of people, lots of street food, lots of girls. Again, gave a few the 'eye' but it's pretty difficult to do when you're both wearing face masks. Got a few 'smiling eyes' in return, but no actual results.
Few bars open on Beach Road, so have a few cocktails and chat with some expats and waitresses. I went for a Thai massage and knowing PTC was coming over later, opted for what I thought was a 'legit' upscale looking place, older ladies in more formal style of dress. Good massage, my first Thai. Lady, who was actually pretty cute for a woman in her 40's, laughing all the way through at my grunts of pain. Despite specifying 'Normal massage, just back and shoulders' about halfway through she grabs my dick and whispers in my ear, 'Blowjob yes?' I say no. She carries on with the massage, but of course now I get hard. She's grabbing at it again 'Why boner if no blowjob?' I just laugh and say 'I'm man. ' All in all a good massage, but I've seen other places with far prettier girls. If I'm going for a blowjob, it will be one of those.
Head back to Sweeties on Bangla Road to find the Thai Police shutting it down. No idea why, bar girl has no idea. But she's messaged today to say it will be open tonight. Couple of last drinks at a bar around the corner. Couldn't get a grab (all busy), but find a cab parked up at the top of Bangla Road. "How much?" "300, Sir. " "No, 100" (Grabs between my hotel and Bangla have been about 80 thb). "Ok Sir."
Get back in time to meet Punky Tattooed Chick at security, down the hill from reception. She's definitely my type. Punky vibe, purple hair, tattoos and facial piercings. I think she's shorter than CWB, but with a tiny bit more flesh on her bones. Very sweet natured too. Walk her up to my room, up the steep hill, avoiding reception again. I think this walk works in my favour. After expending that effort, I don't think the girls want booted out for bad service.
Back in the room, I put on some music and go for a shower. I can hear PTC singing along to the early 2000's pop-punk I'm playing.
Shower done, pull PTC over to the bed. Kissing, touching, teasing her and slowly undressing her. I go down on her. She's tiny, tight and clean. Spent about 30 minutes down there (I absolutely love making a girl cum.) By the time she cums, there's grool (girl drool) all over her thighs, crotch, down my forearm, over my face and I've got four fingers inside her. She's panting, flushed, in a daze. Clean up a little and she asks, "You have condom? I no have."
"I no like. " She doesn't say anything, so I move between her legs and take my time to slide in to her, giving her chance to say 'no' if she doesn't like it. She's fucking soaking wet. Fuck her, taking advantage of her spinner status and throw her around. Like CWB, she's a very GFE fuck, kissing me, clutching at me. After maybe the fourth position, I can feel her cum again. She says to me, "You take long time to cum. " Well yes sweetie, I've been drinking and I fucked your BFF 7-8 times in the last 48 hours. Eventually though, I'm getting close, her riding me cowgirl but me doing the work. She whispers into my ear, 'Cum in pussy. ' Yep, that'll do it.
Spend about five minutes post-orgasm clinging to each other, then I lift her off of me, let her take a shower first, then I have one. Cutely, she's scared of the dark on the walk down to the gate, so asks me to walk her down. Of course sweetie. Walk her down, come back and pass out.
Today, I'm taking care of some admin business, then heading to Rawai. A few TF bar girls have said there's a couple of places open. Grab is about 250 thb each way.
The flip flop nature of theThai gov't can change all the rules at the drop of a hat. Even if their scheme works technically but an infected Thai sneaks in to Phuket and cases show up. OMG the lockdowns and int'l flights in and out may be in Jeopardy.I saw this a few days ago. https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-police-to-patrol-bridges-for-covid-carriers.
On the face of it, it should be effective. To their credit, when this started to take hold in TH, they undertook nearly 5 mill border checks, and isolated about 8 k suspect cases for further investigation. For a very long time, cases were in the "handfuls" with the exception of an outbreak linked to a Boxing stadium in BKK. If they are as diligent this time, we should be well served.
The problem is that many of those crossing the bridge, will be commercial and need to get their "goods to market". There is the prospect that the need for "tea money" might undermine this. I see that PCR tests are in the region of THB 3 k. I can't see too many Thais wanting to have to renew that every 3 or 4 days while they await arrival of sufficient vax doses. Fortunately, the small numbers of tourists currently in situ would suggest that there will not be too much trade taking place across the bridge. But, like everyone else, Phuket which appears to have a high uptake of vaxxes, is like the rest of the world, in a race to achieve herd immunity before new variants can take hold.
The good news as far as the current precautions are concerned, is that all of those who arrived on day 1 returned negative PCR tests. https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/sandbox-6000-registered-no-covid-19-yet-new-land-restrictions.
If the Thais do their bit, this looks like it may be a success. At the moment, I am targeting an arrival date of Aug 4th.
The Thai Embassy in The Hague, Netherlands, has pretty clear information about the Phuket Sandbox. I think it's also worth reading when you're not Dutch.
Flying Thai Airways is not mandatory, for example, and you can book a hotel through any trusted online platform or travel agency. According to this embassy anyway.
https://hague.thaiembassy.org/th/content/phuket-sandbox?page=5f4d1bea74187b0491379162&menu=5f4cc50a4f523722e8027442
I thought about giving it a try, but it's just not worth all the hassle for the 2 weeks holiday that I have in July.
I saw this a few days ago. https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-police-to-patrol-bridges-for-covid-carriers.
On the face of it, it should be effective. To their credit, when this started to take hold in TH, they undertook nearly 5 mill border checks, and isolated about 8 k suspect cases for further investigation. For a very long time, cases were in the "handfuls" with the exception of an outbreak linked to a Boxing stadium in BKK. If they are as diligent this time, we should be well served.
The problem is that many of those crossing the bridge, will be commercial and need to get their "goods to market". There is the prospect that the need for "tea money" might undermine this. I see that PCR tests are in the region of THB 3 k. I can't see too many Thais wanting to have to renew that every 3 or 4 days while they await arrival of sufficient vax doses. Fortunately, the small numbers of tourists currently in situ would suggest that there will not be too much trade taking place across the bridge. But, like everyone else, Phuket which appears to have a high uptake of vaxxes, is like the rest of the world, in a race to achieve herd immunity before new variants can take hold.
The good news as far as the current precautions are concerned, is that all of those who arrived on day 1 returned negative PCR tests. https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/sandbox-6000-registered-no-covid-19-yet-new-land-restrictions.
If the Thais do their bit, this looks like it may be a success. At the moment, I am targeting an arrival date of Aug 4th.But with 2000, then 3000, then 4000 then 5000, now 6000/ day in general population. Do you see a trend, and Phuket is not going to share? The ONLY answer is vaccinations for everyone and I guess that word (vacination) is not in the Thai vocabulary.
Day 4.
Took care of admin tasks, ate some street food, then napped for quite a while. CWB and PTC have been messaging me constantly, sending pictures and videos. Clearly they both want a repeat. Not sure how to broach the subject of 'I've fucked you both, and I want a threesome. ' CWB was pretty adamant she wouldn't do a threesome with her best friend. Awfully tempting to just invite them here at the same time and let money do the talking.
I was thinking of taking the night off and staying in, but by about 7 pm I was awake and bored. Took a grab to the beach road end of Bangla, passing lots of massage parlours with some very pretty girls outside. Too distracted by eyecandy, I didn't get the names of the places and I have a rubbish sense of direction. So no finding them again later. Definitely something I need to explore. I think I'll get a cab to take me on a 'tour', get some cheap massages and some line IDs. As convenient as the TF / Tinder game can be, it is nice to know for definite what the girl who's turning up looks like.
Beach Road was quite busy again, quite a few bars and restaurants. Seems to be more farangs around now, lots of 60 year old fat guys with 20 year old spinners on their arms. I'm new to such a casual and open scene, but. I'm 32, not ugly, moderately successful, fit and dress well. I have dated girls in their early twenties in the UK and it doesn't raise eyebrows. However. I'm not sure I could bring myself to stroll around so blatantly among the holidaymakers, arm in arm with a girl I'm obviously paying to fuck me. I think that's just my hang-up and it's something I need to overcome if I want to move away from the 'pro' scene and bang some girls here that require the pretence of a 'date' before they come back to your room.
Bangla Road was a little more lively. One or two more bars open, none with girls. The lights turned on at Illuzion, Crazy Girls etc. Maybe a hopeful sign that they're thinking of opening up. Bored, I wandered back into Sweeties and was immediately latched on to by Bar Girl. She's older than me, 36, a little plain, but a decent enough figure and great banter. I buy her a lady drink, play lots of pool and drink some San Mig. Mongel Mob turn up, they're pretty loud, but well behaved. Bar is still shutting at 11, but BG keeps me there for a mini 'lock in' till about 12. She shows me videos of her Thai boxing. She's very good. I'm pretty sure she could beat me up. I get a fear boner. I had every intention of taking a night off, recharging and then trying to fuck some of the 18/19/20 year olds I've got on TF today.
Inevitably, I end up on the back of BG's scooter on the way back to my hotel. We arrive, park up, BG gets into a mini argument with the security guard, but he seems to take my assurance that 'my friend, not stay long, it's ok. ' Do my by now inevitable 'sneak up the steep as fuck road out of sight of reception up to my room,' BG worried I'll get in trouble. I'm not. Fuck paying that joiner fee.
Back at the room, I shower, she showers. On the bed, kissing and touching. Best DFK of the trip yet. Her tongue in my throat practically, sucking on mine. I'm rubbing her, she's wet. She asks 'You have condom?' I'm not ready to fuck yet, "After, blowjob first" and I push her down for a BBBJ. Full on gagging, deep-throat facefuck. She's amazing at it, but I stop her before I come.
I go down on her. She's tight, struggling to get a finger inside her. She gets wetter and wetter, I end up with four fingers inside her. She's writhing and humping my face, holding me down there. When she comes, she bends almost double and she squirts. My face is soaked. I flop down next to her while she recovers a little. When she gets her breath, she turns to me and snogs my face off again while I'm still soaked in her juices. That's quite the turn on.
Tongue still down my throat, she slides over and mounts me, cowgirl, earlier mention of a condom forgotten with no argument from me. She's so, so hot and fucking soaking. We roll around the bed, not stopping kissing for a moment, fucking in all different positions. Activities of the last few days, beer, kamagra and tiredness, I'm taking a while to cum. She seems to love it, pinning me down, I can 'feel' her come again. We're both sweaty and panting. Eventually, we get the position and I cum inside her. Just lie there for about ten minutes, locked together, panting and laughing.
We shower together, in post-coital glow, she's talking about taking me on a tour of the island on her scooter today, her day off. And I'm agreeing, though I managed to back off a little by saying I had appointments so maybe in the afternoon. Not opposed to a guided tour and some more banter with her, but I don't want to give her the wrong idea. I don't want a girlfriend. Not even a holiday girlfriend. And as good as she was, I'm unlikely to repeat. Given the Thai boxing and Sweeties being the only open bar with girls, I'm going to have to handle this one carefully. Any thoughts?
I'm tired again, needing to sleep. She needs to leave for some reason, but says she come back. I say no, I sleep. We've had zero discussion on money. She's dressed, half-way out of the door and I stop her, force 1000 thb into her purse. A 'freebie' would be nice, but after my earlier stupidity of agreeing to spend the day with her, I've come back to my senses and want to keep our 'relationship' financial. And transactional.
No plans yet today, I should probably go and do some touristy things. 'Day off', attempt two!
But with 2000, then 3000, then 4000 then 5000, now 6000/ day in general population. Do you see a trend, and Phuket is not going to share? The ONLY answer is vaccinations for everyone and I guess that word (vacination) is not in the Thai vocabulary.Fortunately. The provincial gov in Phuket have done a pretty good job in suppressing the virus as well as getting vaxxes done. The average new infection rate on the island is about one per 140 k head per day; less than 20 new cases per week. In Ireland, it's 1 in 14 k per day. They have also set up checkpoints on the bridge and are only allowing those with proof of vax or recent PCR test, and they must also have the phone app. That last bit makes it riskier for cops to take tea money to allow people past the checkpoint. Factor in that I have been vaxxed. The CDC is showing an infection rate of 100 cases per million (1 in 10 K cases), although I don't think that the Delta variant will improve on this figure when it starts to take a serious hold in the US.
Thailand is definitely a high risk country, though it's currently only at 25% of the UK rate. I am planning four weeks. But statistically in Phuket, in that time, I would have to have close contact with 2500 people a day based on current figures to have a 50% chance of meeting an infected person, and that does not mean I will become infected. And then, I would have to be one of those 1 in 10 k cases where the vax failed. Right now, I'd say that as long as the local gov continue what they are doing, and people stick to the rules, Phuket is one of the safest places on the planet to be right now.
Day 6 report. Car acquired. Did touristy things, saw some beaches, saw Big Buddha, successfully ducked bar girl.
I've been burning the candle at both ends, so today was mostly a day off. On the lookout for somewhere to eat in Patong, I walked past a massage shop and there was a stunningly pretty little thing sat outside. Busty spinner, blonde dyed hair, very pretty. So of course I go for a massage. She's very sweet and cute. She offers 1000 for HJ, 1500 for BJ, 2000 for FS. Err. Nope!
I counter with 2000 yes, but not here. At my hotel. Oh, I no do that. OK, this place shuts in an hour? Come eat with me. Oh, I no date, I shy. A drink? No no no. Flirting, banter, I manage to get her add her line to mine in the hopes of talking her into a visit.
Her line pops up. A couple of pictures I can swear I've seen before. Stupid cartoon face thing on one, 'fake mud pack' effect thing on another. Swear I've seen them. Finish the massage, head outside. Get back to my hotel and. I didn't hit add, I've lost it.
Now I have to go for another massage.
Day 4.
Beach Road was quite busy again, quite a few bars and restaurants. Seems to be more farangs around now, lots of 60 year old fat guys with 20 year old spinners on their arms. I'm new to such a casual and open scene, but. I'm 32, not ugly, moderately successful, fit and dress well. I have dated girls in their early twenties in the UK and it doesn't raise eyebrows. However. I'm not sure I could bring myself to stroll around so blatantly among the holidaymakers, arm in arm with a girl I'm obviously paying to fuck me. I think that's just my hang-up and it's something I need to overcome if I want to move away from the 'pro' scene and bang some girls here that require the pretence of a 'date' before they come back to your room.
B!Thanks for the report. It's great to see that their is life after CV.
Regarding your qualms about age gaps, I will bet right now that if you are still mongering when you hit 60, these will have disappeared. Think about it. If you stay within age range and the options are some late 40's has been, or a fresh beautiful girl, are you really going to going to look FR the former.
We are hardwired to want the most attractive we can get hold of, and if that means paying the price. We will as long as we can afford it. Man is the only species on the planet that has compunctions about age differences. The older we get, as we see pretty girls, the more we think, "If only I were 20 years younger".
I'll be 70 next year and the only reservations I have about hooking up with a twenty something, is based on the maturity of her behaviour. If they act like adults, no problem.
Danny Duck
07-05-21, 19:07
Maybe guys embellish their reporting.
I see lots of 70 year old guys with their Batgirl. Rarely do I see that love dovey scenario.
All I see is OMG let's get this over with,- from the girls point of view.
Once I asked a Girl if she have fun with old man-she Not answer in Bargirls typical fashion. LOL.
Not saying I'm any different than 70 year old. I'm just a Customer too.
HorseTrader
07-05-21, 19:52
Beach Road was quite busy again, quite a few bars and restaurants. Seems to be more farangs around now, lots of 60 year old fat guys with 20 year old spinners on their arms.Your tempting me to make my next trip prior to existing October/November plans. I'm another old 60+ man who has a taste for 20-something spinners, but 2 hours is the maximum I can tolerate their immature brains. For longer sessions (3 to 14 days), I like them older (40+).
Thanks for the great reports and pictures.
SinfullyKorean
07-06-21, 00:48
Now I have to go for another massage.Amazing reports, JJ. I love reading them. They're very to the point, without stupid unnecessary details. Your details on pricing really helps, too.
Thanks for your attention to detail so we can live vicariously. I'm pretty sure I'll be making Thailand (not sure about phuket) my next destination.
Amazing reports, JJ. I love reading them. They're very to the point, without stupid unnecessary details. Your details on pricing really helps, too.
Thanks for your attention to detail so we can live vicariously. I'm pretty sure I'll be making Thailand (not sure about phuket) my next destination.I'm almost certain I could get cheaper. Everything else. Hotels, restaurants, car rentals, grabs, even tattoo artist. Are telling me two years ago, their services would have been way more than I'm paying.
I have the money and at 1500 baht, there's no negotiation which I hate. Just 'yes.' I've never been fucked by a paid for girl like the last three girls have fucked me, except a SB in London who I payed far more than 1500 baht!
If I was a 'machinefun monger' trying to get 3 and 4 girls a day, I'd be wanting to pay less. I'm quite happy with one long, quality session.
Banana Boi
07-06-21, 05:27
Thanks for your reports, J Janni.
Care to share with me via PM which SHA+ hotel you're staying at? Sounds like a winner tipping the workers a few hundred baht and they turn the other cheek for girls coming in and out.
I assume there is no tracking device for the Phuket sandbox as they discussed before?
I like the fact that the SHA+ hotels are booked directly through booking.com. No jacked up hotel rates. Are the COVID tests included in the SHA+ hotel rates? Sounds like you have lots of freedom and there are at least a couple bars open.
I walked past a massage shop and there was a stunningly pretty little thing sat outside. Busty spinner, blonde dyed hair, very pretty. So of course I go for a massage. She's very sweet and cute. .Keep in touch with her Janni. No frequent texts. She will sit on top of you in two days if you have a crush on her. He he.
Maybe guys embellish their reporting.
I see lots of 70 year old guys with their Batgirl. Rarely do I see that love dovey scenario.Best part is when you see them taking the whole family in the restaurant.
They look completely lost in the middle of the girls multiple children and her parents.
Just spent 4 hours searching for a flight. Didn't think it could be so hard. Virtually all the bucket shops were mainly showing only flights that were transiting through BKK so these were non starters. Those that were not, had either the outward or inward flights in the 30+ hour range, with long layovers. I'm too old for that game.
Eventually plumped for Qatar Airways with stops at LHR and Doha. It took 5 attempts to pay for the ticket. One failed because of CC probs. The wife who is currently at home in Japan, made two online purchases one for €700 and one for €10. The CC company thought the 10 was suspicious so they phoned her. However, she will not pick up the phone if someone calls her from Ireland unless she recognises the number. She doesn't want to pay the €2 per minute charge for receiving the call, so the bank blocked the card. By the time I got the prob sorted, the price had gone up from €670 to €744. So much for my wife saving 2.
I made another three attempts, and each one timed out. That meant restarting and by the time I got to the 4th attempt, it had risen to €805. Eventually, I retarded my start / finish dates by one day each, and got a flight for €654.
At the end, there was the customary survey to rate the booking experience. I gave it one star. They then offered a drop-down menu to list the possible complaints. First option was "speed of site / page loading times". That leads me to believe that they must be aware of the prob, but haven't bothered to fix. If there'd been another convenient option, I would have booked elsewhere. I will say to QA's credit though, that the refund policy is very good. You can cancel up to 3 hrs before take-off and get a full refund. My lucks been cursed recently and I am just waiting for something to go wrong.
I've been reading that they intend to fully reopen TH on July 15th, I was just thinking that of the sandbox scheme works out in Phuket and Samui, it might be a good idea to keep the restrictions in those two places. If they need to shut down again, at least those two places should then be able to stay open.
ShinyCrazy
07-06-21, 22:19
I have a flight in November to BKK. Tried today to switch the ingoing flight to HKT, when I discovered that there are only a tiny number of flights arriving in HKT via Europe or the US.
https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-to-phuket-hkt
I'm planning to keep my BKK flight and hope for the best.
I have a flight in November to BKK. Tried today to switch the ingoing flight to HKT, when I discovered that there are only a tiny number of flights arriving in HKT via Europe or the US.
https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-to-phuket-hkt
I'm planning to keep my BKK flight and hope for the best.You need to be aware that you cannot currently transit via BKK to Phuket without doing a 14 day quarantine. However, TH is planning to fully reopen on Oct 15th and things may have changed by then.
You will be able to transit thru bkk when the new sand boxes in the other islands open in a week or two. They will not have direct flights.
You need to be aware that you cannot currently transit via BKK to Phuket without doing a 14 day quarantine. However, TH is planning to fully reopen on Oct 15th and things may have changed by then.
Danny Duck
07-07-21, 01:54
Best part is when you see them taking the whole family in the restaurant.
They look completely lost in the middle of the girls multiple children and her parents.I just pray the majority of these Guys married for the right reasons.
Mutual Love. Hahaha. Hahaha.
ShinyCrazy
07-07-21, 04:24
You will be able to transit thru bkk when the new sand boxes in the other islands open in a week or two. They will not have direct flights.That is good news. If BKK is still off limits by November, I'll just add on a connecting flight to one of the other sandbox islands. From what I've read, it sounds like the government is realizing that the economic pain is so severe that they are pushing the reopening forward. Optimally, I'the like to have time in the islands, time in BKK, and time in Chiangmai, but I'll take whatever I can get!
Thanks for your reports, J Janni.
Care to share with me via PM which SHA+ hotel you're staying at? Sounds like a winner tipping the workers a few hundred baht and they turn the other cheek for girls coming in and out.
I assume there is no tracking device for the Phuket sandbox as they discussed before?
I like the fact that the SHA+ hotels are booked directly through booking.com. No jacked up hotel rates. Are the COVID tests included in the SHA+ hotel rates? Sounds like you have lots of freedom and there are at least a couple bars open.PM if you want the hotel, but I wouldn't recommend staying here. Too far out of Patong to walk (maybe 20-30 minutes), so I'm getting Grabs all the time. Resort style hotel on a steep slope, with lots of steps to and from the rooms if you walk the 'official' way (but no way to skirt reception), or a very steep road. No problem for a whippersnapper fitness freak like me, but the second time CWB came over, I ended up having to give her a piggy-back half the way. There's an on-call shuttle bus, which I used for two girls last night (without paying a joiner fee), so things are at least looking up.
Honestly, stay somewhere else. If Patong, somewhere closer into the action. If I come back after my brief sojourn in the UK, I'll be staying somewhere else.
I wouldn't have thought PRC tests are included in the hotel rate unless specified. They're a standard 8000 thb for the three you require. (Just done my second this morning.).
Only tracking is 'Morchana' track and trace ap. Only thing I have to do is let the hotel scan the barcode on it once a day, at my convenience. If you had property out her, or wanted to stay at a friend or girlfriend's, it would be perfectly possible to book the cheapest SHA+ hotel and just swing by once a day.
Just seen this: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2144879/first-covid-infected-tourist-found-in-phuket-sandbox.
I have a friend in Ching Rai who lives in CR who tells me that all the members of his group are now in 14 day hotel quarantine. The Thai medicos are also testing close contacts of the infected man based on the plane seating plan.
This is the risk we take. It only needs one person near to you to become infected and everything is ruined.
That is good news. If BKK is still off limits by November, I'll just add on a connecting flight to one of the other sandbox islands. From what I've read, it sounds like the government is realizing that the economic pain is so severe that they are pushing the reopening forward. Optimally, I'the like to have time in the islands, time in BKK, and time in Chiangmai, but I'll take whatever I can get!Other tourists in the same group had been placed in 14-day quarantine at a hotel provided by the province for observation and Covid-19 testing. Oh yea, no chance this will happen to you.
So, actual day 6 report (previous report should have been day 5 I think.).
Early start to the day, morning swim (I'm five steps from a pool.) Appearing from the room beside mine (I'm at the end of a row), a pretty and full-figured Kiwi girl in her mid to late 20's who arrived yesterday and has just been released. She works in Qatar and is here for a short holiday by herself. We have a good chat and banter. I'm enthralled. After a few days of spinners, I'm craving a girl with curves. She doesn't drive, I now have a car. Make vague plan to drive her to one or two of the more remote beaches. More on her later.
Check out some more tourist stuff by myself. Some rock pools, Phuket Town. I actually really enjoy driving here. Roads and views are stunning when you get off the main roads. Narrow, steep and twisting. Like driving in Cornwall just with more suicidal lunatics on scooters.
Having a day off of the 'night-life', so I'm back to the hotel for about 6 pm. I ate an early breakfast, lunch mid-afternoon. I normally only tend to eat once or twice a day, so no plans to go out for food. I'm just relaxing, trawling TF trying to fulfil that 'tall (ish) and with curves' craving. That puts me dangerously into ladyboy territory. Talk to a few prospects, bluntly asking, 'You born a girl?' Responses are vague, though may be language barrier. 'I have pussy, am girl. ' Doesn't mean you didn't used to be a man, darling.
Finally settle on one prospect, quick videochat (In my limited experience of being accosted by ladyboys outside massage parlours, the voice is the biggest giveaway) I'm confident she's a girl. Not much of a view of her body on the videochat, but she's very pretty with dyed blonde hair (like my missed connection massage girl, who I need to track down again). Stats on her profile claim 22,5'6, 120 lbs. Invite her over at 7. (1500 short time). She says 45 minutes. At 7:44 on the dot, I get a message to say she's here. I go down to meet her.
Girl from the videochat and pictures. Extremely pretty. But I'd put her at 5 foot nothin' and under 100 lbs. It's so difficult to judge figures and height from pictures, when there's no frame of reference and all you see all day is petite women.
Oh well, surprise spinner is a winner.
I'm sick of trying to sneak past reception by the steep road, so on the way down I've given the shuttle bus driver 100 thb, got him to turn around and wait for me out of sight of reception. Surprise Spinner (SS) and I stroll up, hand in hand. And right past Kiwi girl, walking out of reception to go to 7/11 or something. Ooops. Doesn't look in my direction, but I know she's seen me.
In to room. She's a little shy, a bit deer in the headlights. I put on some music, flirt and tease her, try to make her relax. She does some but is still very. Wooden and passive. Light French kissing, undress her, undress myself. "You have condom?" You just got here, sweetie. "Blowjob first. " Push her down and she makes a half-decent effort at it, but I don't want to cum like that. Spin her on to her back and go down. Pretty, perfect little pussy. I don't think the girls here have been getting a lot of action, because she gets extremely wet, extremely quickly, pussy opening up like a flower. Three fingers, writhing against my face and holding my head down. Felt her clench on my fingers and when I pull out of her, a line of grool is connecting my fingers to her.
"My friend (she got a lift on a scooter) wait. We hurry?" Umm. You've only been here 20-30 minutes sweetie. Whatever. I think my 'go with the flow and not overly specify what I want' (out of laziness) strategy has failed here. I want 1-2 hours minimum. Move between her legs, nibbling at her collarbone.
"You have condom?
". No like, no cum."
"Can not."
"OK."
Find some, rubber-up (a little too small. I'm Western average, I think the pharmacy lady just sold me the wrong ones). Enter. She's lying there like a deadfish. I've fucked more involved 30 quid Romanians in the UK. Maybe two / three minutes and. "You cum? I have to go, friend not wait."
Ok, fuck it. Pull out, toss the condom and say, "You supposed to stay longer, but ok, you go. " I'd rather 'save some energy' and spend it on a more involved fuck. It wasn't the condom. I never push too hard for BBFS. It was the lack of involvement. I can happily cum wearing a condom.
She has a quick shower, I only think to snap some pictures when she's fully dressed and she's not for undressing again haha. I give her 1000 thb, "You only stay short time, if you come again, stay longer, give more. " Maybe shouldn't have even given her that much, but she arrived at the time she said she would on the dot. Got to be worth something in a country where everyone else treats an hour late as on time. Doesn't argue, asks me to walk her down. We walk down the steep road, she's clutching at my arm and close beside me through the 'dark, scary' bits.
See her to her friend's bike, decide 'Fuck it, it's only 8:20. ' Beer and pool on Bangla, I don't just want to go and sit in my room. Try and get a grab. They keep accepting, but the 'time to arrival' keeps going backwards. And they're moving in the wrong direction. Probably picking up cash, shot distance fares. Get annoyed, cancel them. Start walking, thinking I'll flag someone down.
No luck, walking past a little Thai restaurant. Emirati guy and his Thai wife I recognize from my flight are in there. The food they have looks amazing. I realize I'm hungry. I come in, sit down, order. He and his wife are a great laugh. Eat food, drink some beer, he keeps buying me and the three Tai waitresses shots of this sweet liqueur. Pretty good time. 11 pm comes (all places have to shut by 11 pm, it's like pre-2005 in the UK, get yourself shitfaced before 11 pm), we get kicked out. They head to their hotel, I head to mine.
All day, I've been chatting with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty on Line. Talked PTC into trying anal if she comes again, CWB has already confirmed she'll try again. Main tract of the conversation with CWB is she's dying her hair electric blue half at my suggestion, half already thinking about doing it herself. Not likely to happen, but the thought of a threesome with two neon-haired, all holes bare spinners has my interest piqued.
Mental coin toss, tell CWB to come over. She messages to say she's five minutes away, I go down to meet her, getting my friendly shuttle driver to spin around out of sight of reception. She's not there. Get a message. Picture of the outside of my room. She got a different taxi bike and he just zoomed straight past security without stopping. Hop in the shuttle, get up to my room, smooth things over with the security guard who went zooming after them. Hand in hand to my room. Pass Kiwi Girl's room at the precise moment she's just putting some room service dishes outside. For fuck's sake haha.
Inside, CWB has been drinking. I've been drinking. So we drink some more and listen to music. She jabbers non-stop, I find it oddly endearing. The odd grunt and word here and there is the only thing I have to contribute. Despite my verbosity on this report, I find small talk a chore. So her chattering away is a blessing to me.
Normal service with CWB, lots of kissing, touching, slowly undressing, mutual oral (I think I made her cum again), move to enter her. "Why you no like condom?" "Not feel nice, no cum. " This is the first time you've mentioned a condom sweetie. I enter. Due to the earlier uncompleted encounter, I cum quickly (for me when I've been drinking and on kamagra). Maybe ten minutes. Both of us very sweaty, panting, clinging together. Quite the load, I can feel the first couple of shots into her.
"Why you cum inside?
Erm. This is like the 8th time I've cum inside you.
"I have take Plan be pill, make sick. " Oh well.
2-3 am, we're both drunk, so we shower and get into bed. Normal sleeping with CWB service. Wriggling around, constantly pulling my arm over her, wrapping her legs around my thigh, spooning, lying half on top of me. She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfortable spot to lie down. It's actually pretty sweet, but difficult to nod off. Eventually, we both must have passed out.
Wake up about 7:30 for a morning piss. Disentangle myself from an unresponsive CWB, piss, brush my teeth. Get back into bed. Repeat from last time she stayed over. Tease her awake, warm her up, get her wet. Only this morning, she's taking a while to get really wet. I've got my second covid test at 10 am and time is slipping away, so I use lube. Same same again, slow bone in the spoons position, come as my alarm goes off. We shower together, dress, pass Kiwi Girl for a third time, on her way up to breakfast, (I wish I was making this up), get in car, I drop CWB at her shitty rooms in central Patong, go to my Covid test around the corner. Pretty slick setup. We all get fired through quickly.
Back at hotel, sleep for a few hours. Today, beach day. And continue the hunt.
Attached half-clothed pictures of deadfish SS and a bonus action shot of CWB.
1st covid case arrives in the Phuket sandbox, it was bound to happen.
Other tourists in the same group had been placed in 14-day quarantine at a hotel provided by the province for observation and Covid-19 testing. Oh yea, no chance this will happen to you.Some people are already claiming that the one case of Farang covid makes the Sandbox a failure. Actually, I'd describe it as a success.
I know that this is more about commerce than anything else, but the priority should be about protecting the health and safety of the locals. Out of 2100 arrivals to date, one case has been detected within 24 hours of his arrival. He has been in a bubble since he boarded his flight and most of his close contracts have been vaxxed. The CDC were saying that the failure rate for vaxxed people was just one in 10 k (before the Delta variant took hold), so the chances of him spreading the disease among his close contacts is small, though they may become carriers. So with 2100 landings, we were looking at about 20% chance that this would occur. The Thais acted promptly in isolating the risk to their credit.
I have my ticket booked to land on Aug 5th. Currently, the only thing that is going to lead to my cancelling is seeing what happens with the close contacts and how they are treated. I've not booked my hotel yet and I am assuming that the hotel with this group are staying will not be allowed to accept further bookings for the duration.
Some people are already claiming that the one case of Farang covid makes the Sandbox a failure. Actually, I'd describe it as a success.
I know that this is more about commerce than anything else, but the priority should be about protecting the health and safety of the locals. Out of 2100 arrivals to date, one case has been detected within 24 hours of his arrival. He has been in a bubble since he boarded his flight and most of his close contracts have been vaxxed. The CDC were saying that the failure rate for vaxxed people was just one in 10 k (before the Delta variant took hold), so the chances of him spreading the disease among his close contacts is small, though they may become carriers. So with 2100 landings, we were looking at about 20% chance that this would occur. The Thais acted promptly in isolating the risk to their credit.
I have my ticket booked to land on Aug 5th. Currently, the only thing that is going to lead to my cancelling is seeing what happens with the close contacts and how they are treated. I've not booked my hotel yet and I am assuming that the hotel with this group are staying will not be allowed to accept further bookings for the duration.How can you say "the chances to spread the disease are small".
And then say "they might be carriers"?
Carrying the disease is spreading it.
If vaccinated the chances to turn the positive into hospital cases are 90/95% (average) of two doses a s 69/65% (if one dose), in general and depending on the individual.
But that's another story as it refers to individual (getting sick).
Just seen this: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2144879/first-covid-infected-tourist-found-in-phuket-sandbox.
I have a friend in Ching Rai who lives in CR who tells me that all the members of his group are now in 14 day hotel quarantine. The Thai medicos are also testing close contacts of the infected man based on the plane seating plan.
This is the risk we take. It only needs one person near to you to become infected and everything is ruined.Indeed, that is common sense and what it is all about.
That is good news. If BKK is still off limits by November, I'll just add on a connecting flight to one of the other sandbox islands. From what I've read, it sounds like the government is realizing that the economic pain is so severe that they are pushing the reopening forward. Optimally, I'the like to have time in the islands, time in BKK, and time in Chiangmai, but I'll take whatever I can get!I can instead well figure the pain of having all of a sudden a few hundreds people requiring medical care.
That's the "choice" all seriously minded governments had to face since March 2020.
How can you say "the chances to spread the disease are small".
And then say "they might be carriers"?
Carrying the disease is spreading it.
If vaccinated the chances to turn the positive into hospital cases are 90/95% (average) of two doses a s 69/65% (if one dose), in general and depending on the individual.
But that's another story as it refers to individual (getting sick).You only spread it if you infect someone else.
They "might" be carriers, and then again they might not. Hence "small". Currently, the are are 18 others in his group who are confined to the SHA hotel for 14 days. All 18 have been fully vaxxed. SHA hotels require that staff have a vax uptake of 70%. They will also be aware of the possibility of infection from this group and will no doubt take sensible steps to reduce close contact with this group.
I have a flight in November to BKK. Tried today to switch the ingoing flight to HKT, when I discovered that there are only a tiny number of flights arriving in HKT via Europe or the US.
https://www.flightconnections.com/flights-to-phuket-hkt
I'm planning to keep my BKK flight and hope for the best.And then you need to make sure that, at that time, they will operate.
Don't take it for granted.
As a precaution you better book through the airline website. They will offer more protection and often they have code share flights with airlines landing in HKT (whether via BKK or whatever) so more seat availability and solutions under the same ticket.
Just reading the update from Phuket on the "foreign infection". Turns out it he took the Sinopharm vax. Maybe it's time for TH to consider foreign travellers with that vax as "suspect".
I have had a view for sometime about Chinese manufactured goods, which seem to come in two qualities: Excellent because it has been outsourced to them by a foreign manufacturer such as Apple. Then there is, "it may be crap, but it's cheap. We use it ourselves domestically, and 1. 4 Billion Chinese can't be wrong".
I speak with the experience of having spent €4300 with Alibaba on an XRF machine, that looked and performed nothing like the model advertised on the video. Bait and Switch anyone?
So, actual day 6 report (previous report should have been day 5 I think.).
Early start to the day, morning swim (I'm five steps from a pool.) Appearing from the room beside mine (I'm at the end of a row), a pretty and full-figured Kiwi girl in her mid to late 20's who arrived yesterday and has just been released. She works in Qatar and is here for a short holiday by herself. We have a good chat and banter. I'm enthralled. After a few days of spinners, I'm craving a girl with curves. She doesn't drive, I now have a car. Make vague plan to drive her to one or two of the more remote beaches. More on her later.
Check out some more tourist stuff by myself. Some rock pools, Phuket Town. I actually really enjoy driving here. Roads and views are stunning when you get off the main roads. Narrow, steep and twisting. Like driving in Cornwall just with more suicidal lunatics on scooters.
Having a day off of the 'night-life', so I'm back to the hotel for about 6 pm. I ate an early breakfast, lunch mid-afternoon. I normally only tend to eat once or twice a day, so no plans to go out for food. I'm just relaxing, trawling TF trying to fulfil that 'tall (ish) and with curves' craving. That puts me dangerously into ladyboy territory. Talk to a few prospects, bluntly asking, 'You born a girl?' Responses are vague, though may be language barrier. 'I have pussy, am girl. ' Doesn't mean you didn't used to be a man, darling.
Finally settle on one prospect, quick videochat (In my limited experience of being accosted by ladyboys outside massage parlours, the voice is the biggest giveaway) I'm confident she's a girl. Not much of a view of her body on the videochat, but she's very pretty with dyed blonde hair (like my missed connection massage girl, who I need to track down again). Stats on her profile claim 22,5'6, 120 lbs. Invite her over at 7. (1500 short time). She says 45 minutes. At 7:44 on the dot, I get a message to say she's here. I go down to meet her.
Girl from the videochat and pictures. Extremely pretty. But I'd put her at 5 foot nothin' and under 100 lbs. It's so difficult to judge figures and height from pictures, when there's no frame of reference and all you see all day is petite women.
Oh well, surprise spinner is a winner.
I'm sick of trying to sneak past reception by the steep road, so on the way down I've given the shuttle bus driver 100 thb, got him to turn around and wait for me out of sight of reception. Surprise Spinner (SS) and I stroll up, hand in hand. And right past Kiwi girl, walking out of reception to go to 7/11 or something. Ooops. Doesn't look in my direction, but I know she's seen me.
In to room. She's a little shy, a bit deer in the headlights. I put on some music, flirt and tease her, try to make her relax. She does some but is still very. Wooden and passive. Light French kissing, undress her, undress myself. "You have condom?" You just got here, sweetie. "Blowjob first. " Push her down and she makes a half-decent effort at it, but I don't want to cum like that. Spin her on to her back and go down. Pretty, perfect little pussy. I don't think the girls here have been getting a lot of action, because she gets extremely wet, extremely quickly, pussy opening up like a flower. Three fingers, writhing against my face and holding my head down. Felt her clench on my fingers and when I pull out of her, a line of grool is connecting my fingers to her.
"My friend (she got a lift on a scooter) wait. We hurry?" Umm. You've only been here 20-30 minutes sweetie. Whatever. I think my 'go with the flow and not overly specify what I want' (out of laziness) strategy has failed here. I want 1-2 hours minimum. Move between her legs, nibbling at her collarbone.
"You have condom?
". No like, no cum."
"Can not."
"OK."
Find some, rubber-up (a little too small. I'm Western average, I think the pharmacy lady just sold me the wrong ones). Enter. She's lying there like a deadfish. I've fucked more involved 30 quid Romanians in the UK. Maybe two / three minutes and. "You cum? I have to go, friend not wait."
Ok, fuck it. Pull out, toss the condom and say, "You supposed to stay longer, but ok, you go. " I'd rather 'save some energy' and spend it on a more involved fuck. It wasn't the condom. I never push too hard for BBFS. It was the lack of involvement. I can happily cum wearing a condom.
She has a quick shower, I only think to snap some pictures when she's fully dressed and she's not for undressing again haha. I give her 1000 thb, "You only stay short time, if you come again, stay longer, give more. " Maybe shouldn't have even given her that much, but she arrived at the time she said she would on the dot. Got to be worth something in a country where everyone else treats an hour late as on time. Doesn't argue, asks me to walk her down. We walk down the steep road, she's clutching at my arm and close beside me through the 'dark, scary' bits.
See her to her friend's bike, decide 'Fuck it, it's only 8:20. ' Beer and pool on Bangla, I don't just want to go and sit in my room. Try and get a grab. They keep accepting, but the 'time to arrival' keeps going backwards. And they're moving in the wrong direction. Probably picking up cash, shot distance fares. Get annoyed, cancel them. Start walking, thinking I'll flag someone down.
No luck, walking past a little Thai restaurant. Emirati guy and his Thai wife I recognize from my flight are in there. The food they have looks amazing. I realize I'm hungry. I come in, sit down, order. He and his wife are a great laugh. Eat food, drink some beer, he keeps buying me and the three Tai waitresses shots of this sweet liqueur. Pretty good time. 11 pm comes (all places have to shut by 11 pm, it's like pre-2005 in the UK, get yourself shitfaced before 11 pm), we get kicked out. They head to their hotel, I head to mine.
All day, I've been chatting with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty on Line. Talked PTC into trying anal if she comes again, CWB has already confirmed she'll try again. Main tract of the conversation with CWB is she's dying her hair electric blue half at my suggestion, half already thinking about doing it herself. Not likely to happen, but the thought of a threesome with two neon-haired, all holes bare spinners has my interest piqued.
Mental coin toss, tell CWB to come over. She messages to say she's five minutes away, I go down to meet her, getting my friendly shuttle driver to spin around out of sight of reception. She's not there. Get a message. Picture of the outside of my room. She got a different taxi bike and he just zoomed straight past security without stopping. Hop in the shuttle, get up to my room, smooth things over with the security guard who went zooming after them. Hand in hand to my room. Pass Kiwi Girl's room at the precise moment she's just putting some room service dishes outside. For fuck's sake haha.
Inside, CWB has been drinking. I've been drinking. So we drink some more and listen to music. She jabbers non-stop, I find it oddly endearing. The odd grunt and word here and there is the only thing I have to contribute. Despite my verbosity on this report, I find small talk a chore. So her chattering away is a blessing to me.
Normal service with CWB, lots of kissing, touching, slowly undressing, mutual oral (I think I made her cum again), move to enter her. "Why you no like condom?" "Not feel nice, no cum. " This is the first time you've mentioned a condom sweetie. I enter. Due to the earlier uncompleted encounter, I cum quickly (for me when I've been drinking and on kamagra). Maybe ten minutes. Both of us very sweaty, panting, clinging together. Quite the load, I can feel the first couple of shots into her.
"Why you cum inside?
Erm. This is like the 8th time I've cum inside you.
"I have take Plan be pill, make sick. " Oh well.
2-3 am, we're both drunk, so we shower and get into bed. Normal sleeping with CWB service. Wriggling around, constantly pulling my arm over her, wrapping her legs around my thigh, spooning, lying half on top of me. She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfortable spot to lie down. It's actually pretty sweet, but difficult to nod off. Eventually, we both must have passed out.
Wake up about 7:30 for a morning piss. Disentangle myself from an unresponsive CWB, piss, brush my teeth. Get back into bed. Repeat from last time she stayed over. Tease her awake, warm her up, get her wet. Only this morning, she's taking a while to get really wet. I've got my second covid test at 10 am and time is slipping away, so I use lube. Same same again, slow bone in the spoons position, come as my alarm goes off. We shower together, dress, pass Kiwi Girl for a third time, on her way up to breakfast, (I wish I was making this up), get in car, I drop CWB at her shitty rooms in central Patong, go to my Covid test around the corner. Pretty slick setup. We all get fired through quickly.
Back at hotel, sleep for a few hours. Today, beach day. And continue the hunt.
Attached half-clothed pictures of deadfish SS and a bonus action shot of CWB.Thanks for posting. Great detail.
Quick question for you: I've read that while you are in an SHA hotel, they do room checks to make sure you are resident. Is it like a curfew where you have to be in the room at a fixed time, or is it like "put in an appearance sometime during the night"? I'm a late night reveller, and I don't want a schedule to cramp my style.
Steve 9696
07-08-21, 15:40
Thanks for the reports JJanni. Won't requote here to save space. But loving them and the detail. I fucking belly laughed out load at "She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfy place to lie down". OMG. Roflmao. Too funny. Thanks for that.
SinfullyKorean
07-08-21, 21:04
Thanks for the reports JJanni. Won't requote here to save space. But loving them and the detail. I fucking belly laughed out load at "She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfy place to lie down". OMG. Roflmao. Too funny. Thanks for that.Seriously. They need to make an upvote functionality so we can show appreciation without writing a full on reply for quality posts.
Thanks for the reports JJanni. Won't requote here to save space. But loving them and the detail. I fucking belly laughed out load at "She's like ten dogs trying to find a comfy place to lie down". OMG. Roflmao. Too funny. Thanks for that.
Seriously. They need to make an upvote functionality so we can show appreciation without writing a full on reply for quality posts.Thanks guys. Who would have thought an English Lit. Degree would come in handy for writing smutty accounts of mongering adventures. It's been fuck all use for anything else. I drive ships for a living!
Thanks for posting. Great detail.
Quick question for you: I've read that while you are in an SHA hotel, they do room checks to make sure you are resident. Is it like a curfew where you have to be in the room at a fixed time, or is it like "put in an appearance sometime during the night"? I'm a late night reveller, and I don't want a schedule to cramp my style.Warden comes by at 1 am and shines a torch through the patio door and I have to show a leg (doesn't have to be mine.).
Nah. The only form of monitoring is the Morchana app (like NHS test and trace app) and checking in with the hotel once a day, at my convenience. Nobody is actually checking I'm staying here. I'm not sure how much late night revelry you'll find though. Everything. Bars, restaurants, massage shops. Has to close by 11 pm. I've been told there's more life in the proper expat areas. Rawai, Laguna, Nanai Road here in Patong. But with best intentions, I haven't made it that way yet.
Day 7 and 8.
Day 7 started late, sleeping till lunch after Covid test and dropping CWB off. I drove down to Nai Harn beach after lunch (There's a grilled pork neck tuktuk that sets up on Beach Road that is the best thing I've ever tasted, I end up eating there at least once a day.) Nai Harn is absolutely beautiful and deserted compared to pictures I've seen. Maybe 200 people total spread around the beach. I'm able to park within stone's throw of a good sunbathing spot, which nicely solves the issue of 'what to do with my stuff when swimming. ' Old car with non-electronic key. Just chuck everything in the car. A few expats, tourists, but mostly Thai. Lots of pretty girls in bikinis, taking pictures of eachother.
Back to the hotel for a shower, grab into Patong, do a 'bar crawl' on Beach Road and the other main road behind it. There's maybe. 20/30 bars, hotels and restaurants open and serving alcohol. There's quite a few groups of unaccompanied (by males) Thai girls moving around that may be freelancing (probably are), but I've been told I'm pretty unapproachable (resting ***** face) and I have hangups about being such an obvious monger, stopping girls in the street / trying to pull them into a bar. The facemasks make things really difficult, you can't even smile at them! Old Thailand hands will probably have more success than me.
Everywhere on Bangla is now shut. Sweetie Bar was open for a few days, was starting to get a decent number of clientele. A few other bars on Bangla showed signs of opening. Sweeties was told they weren't allowed to serve alcohol yesterday. They opened tonight, only serving food. And were again, ordered to close. Apparently the logic is there's so many bars on Bangla if they all opened, everyone would pile there, there would be no social distancing etc. Seems like bollocks, given the big 'Welcome to Phuket' event on Patong Beach the other day, everyone packed together to watch the fireworks. It would seem fair to me to allow Sweeties to stay open and keep the others shut. They were the ones to open on the 1st, taking the risk.
Few prospects on Thai Friendly. Lots of the girls seem to have gone and / or remained nocturnal. Sleeping / uncontactable all day, active in the evening. Camwhoring and videochatting with guys in Europe and the US at night. After the abject failure of Surprise Spinner, I'm tired and leery of inviting a girl over 'sight unseen. ' Totally get where you guys are coming from, lamenting the closure of the go-gos and beer bars. It would be nice to sound a girl out first, check what the chemistry is going to be like.
Vague idea in mind of checking out Beach Road after 11 pm, see if I can spot some freelancers when things have 'quietened down' some.
I get a message from Bar Girl about 10:45 pm. She's driven her bike all the way to Phuket Town and back to buy me e-liquid for my vape. I had never thought to check the status of vaping in Thailand and it came as news to me the other day that it was illegal and carried a huge fine (I've been walking past the Rozzers, vaping away!) It's illegal in a lot of the Middle Eastern countries I've been, but I never expected it in a country where you walk into a pharmacy for paracetamol and get offered everything from Ritalin to Vicodin and Percocet. I was running low on juice, determined not to restart a 10 year, pack a day habit. And noticed Bar Girl vaped. I'd tried to buy it myself in Phuket Town, but just couldn't find the places I was directed to, so I asked BG.
Meet her outside the shuttered Sweetie Bar to get the liquid and pay her. She only wants the stickered price on the bottles. She asks "You want drink more or go to hotel?" I'm drunk, tired and feeling quite affectionate towards her. And she fucks like a pornstar. And she's right there. So, fuck it, jump on the back of her bike.
Ride the scooter all the way up to my room. Inside, it's normal BG service after a shower each. Snogging my face off, deepthroating, riding me to within an inch of my life. Again, alcohol and kamagra, I'm taking a while to cum. She's determined and I'm pretty much just lying there, letting her do all the work. Eventually, I do and we're just clinging to eachother, sweaty and panting and she's pleased as punch in my ear; "I win. ".
After, shower again, vape on the balcony. She's being all lovey-dovey, taking selfies with me, telling me about her Pandemic woes and I genuinely feel for her. Vague plans made to meet her again tomorrow for a bike driving lesson somewhere quiet. I really, really need to develop my 'mongering hardness' and learn to keep my drunk, post-orgasm 'mellow and affectionate' mouth shut.
Back inside, she's teasing me, kissing, grinding on me and I'm hard again, which she's pleased about. She says, "I have go, friend upset. And need to get pill. But I want sleep next time. " I give her 1000 thb for 'pharmacy' and she's off.
Day 8.
Sleep late, saved from my stupid mouth by absolutely torrential monsoon rains all day. Definitely not scooter riding days. Hide most of the day in room, only a brief sojourn out for lunch. By late afternoon, the rain has died off to a drizzle, so I drive into town to check out the massage places. Mostly older ladies, though a few young cute ones amongst them. Eventually, I stumble over the place where Missed Connection Spinner from the other day works. I go for a massage with the intention of just a rub-down and to get her Line.
Well, I get her Line, but I think I ruined my chances by thinking with my dick. Manage to talk her into 1500 thb for FS (yes, overpaying like fuck), even convince her for 'one little kiss. ' It's on with the condom for a BJ, then she strips off. Biggest boobs I've seen so far (a be maybe) and she's absolutely lovely. Fit and tight. I can see abdominal definition, which I like. Being an avid gym-goer myself, I love gym fit girls (I really need to get to Brazil and fuck some of those hardbody brancas.). Mounts me cowgirl and with no chemical assistance or alcohol in me, I cum in 5/10 minutes.
It was ok, not stellar. But unless I've been abstaining for a few days, I don't really enjoy these 'pump and dump' style encounters. I need more stimulation. After, we chat some more, me working the conversation always to getting her to come back with me. Turns out, she's from Isan and is heading home in four days for a couple of weeks. I think maybe it's not to be, but I will message her Line.
Go for food after, BG messaging me now the rain has stopped. She's out of work again, wants to meet me out for food. My 'hardness' has returned somewhat and I message back 'I like you. Cannot all the time. Message when I want. ' She says 'Ok, message me. ' Thankfully, silent since.
Back to the hotel for shower, change of clothes and to dump the car at about 6 pm. Bed looks too inviting and I think 'Nap for an hour or two, then back out for some drinks and to see if there's any SW action later than I've been staying out. ' Nearly all my encounters thus far have been late at night, running into the wee hours of the morning. And I can't seem to sleep later than about 9 am, no matter how late I'm up. So I'm accumulating a lot of fatigue.
I wake up about 12:30 am. Fucksake. Message a few girls, but I'm leery of trying out new prospects at this time of night. Unfinished business with Punky Tattooed Chick. And she's quick to respond.
Meet her at security about 1:20 am and my tame shuttle driver takes us up to my room. PTC is even more affectionate than last time, rolling around on the bed with me. Eventually, I go down on her and she gets extremely, extremely wet. So much so, I have to get a towel to put down. And I'm able to use her juices as lube to get a finger partway in her arse briefly. Two fingers in her pussy. I'm focusing on her clit with my tongue and she's pushing herself up and down the bed, 'fucking herself' on my fingers. Back arches and she goes tense when she cums, clenching down on my fingers, drenching my face. If she was faking it, she could have faked it sooner. I was down there for 30/40 fuckin' minutes!
After she recovers, she pulls me up to lie next to her. On the way, I smear her grool all over her flat little stomach and it's an amazing visual. Long kiss with no cleanup at her instigation, then she goes down on me. Decent blowjob, but not deep. After a few minutes at her own instigation again, she mounts me cowgirl and clings to me, no mention of condom this time. A real slow, 'grindy' fuck. I'm getting close, but unfinished business. I lift her off and get the lube. She's not keen, but we try.
Her on her side, me fingering her arse. She gives it the good old college try. I get my finger all the way in this time, but I just can't get her to relax and I'm too impatient. I think if I want anal, I'm going to need to find a girl who's done it before. Previous girlfriends who've done it with me before knew what they were doing, so I've never experienced introducing a girl to it before. Maybe I'm just not 'hard' enough, but I hate causing the little cuties pain.
Give it up, slide back into her in spoons position. When I cum, she makes cute little 'mmm' noises and we stay like that for a good while. Eventually, pull apart, shower, dress and then we smoke on balcony, me stealing a cigarette from her. Her oral hygiene is great. I had no idea she smoked.
Back inside, she climbs into the bed (I had the air-conditioning set too cold), I lie down beside her and she snuggles in. Wake up an hour later to 10 missed calls on her phone from her friend who came to pick her up. Ooops. Walk her down, then back and crash out. Paid her 1500 thb again.
Today, tourist shit and I'm 100% not getting a repeat over. New girl. Either a TF, or I'll make more of an effort to see if there's any street freelance action going on.
No plan where I'm going next, I'm waiting to see what happens with this mooted lockdown. It may end up being better staying here, but my flight out is direct from BKK. In great news though, UK has announced from 17th of July, fully vaccinated returning from an amber country no longer have to home quarantine, so I might look at extending my trip a week. I was returning to the UK with enough time to do the 10 day home 'quarantine' before an event I have to attend.
Thanks guys. Who would have thought an English Lit. Degree would come in handy for writing smutty accounts of mongering adventures. It's been fuck all use for anything else. I drive ships for a living!
Warden comes by at 1 am and shines a torch through the patio door and I have to show a leg (doesn't have to be mine.).
Nah. The only form of monitoring is the Morchana app (like NHS test and trace app) and checking in with the hotel once a day, at my convenience. Nobody is actually checking I'm staying here. I'm not sure how much late night revelry you'll find though. Everything. Bars, restaurants, massage shops. Has to close by 11 pm. I've been told there's more life in the proper expat areas. Rawai, Laguna, Nanai Road here in Patong. But with best intentions, I haven't made it that way yet.
Everywhere on Bangla is now shut. Sweetie Bar was open for a few days, was starting to get a decent number of clientele. A few other bars on Bangla showed signs of opening. Sweeties was told they weren't allowed to serve alcohol yesterday. They opened tonight, only serving food. And were again, ordered to close. Apparently the logic is there's so many bars on Bangla if they all opened, everyone would pile there, there would be no social distancing etc. Seems like bollocks, given the big 'Welcome to Phuket' event on Patong Beach the other day, everyone packed together to watch the fireworks. It would seem fair to me to allow Sweeties to stay open and keep the others shut. They were the ones to open on the 1st, taking the risk.
Vague idea in mind of checking out Beach Road after 11 pm, see if I can spot some freelancers when things have 'quietened down' some.
Meet her outside the shuttered Sweetie Bar to get the liquid and pay her. She only wants the stickered price on the bottles. She asks "You want drink more or go to hotel?" I'm drunk, tired and feeling quite affectionate towards her. And she fucks like a pornstar. And she's right there. So, fuck it, jump on the back of her bike.
Maybe I'm just not 'hard' enough, but I hate causing the little cuties pain.
I've scaled down your excellent. Post I can assure that when I do my trip reports, they will be nowhere as readable as yours are.
Anyway, thanks for the info on the room check. Regarding late night revelry, I am hoping (and presuming) that this will improve as I get nearer to my arrival. Totally agree with you about Sweetie. If these people are prepared to take the chance, then why not let them do it as part of a phased reopening. I am not sure that many won't cancel their bookings if the place is still a ghost town in a month's time. BTW, anyone thinking of booking a flight might want to consider Qatar Airlines. The cancellation policy is that you can get a full cash refund as long as you cancel at least three hours ahead of departure time.
You don't want to cause the girl pain? Good for you. Nothing wrong with a bit of compassion.
Based on my own plans, I have already made a number of contacts on TF, but if the bars don't reopen I will probably cancel my trip. Not a criticism of you, but I gave up the butterfly holiday some time ago. I've often found that regular changes often lead to regrets in that yesterday's model was so much better. If I find one that I really like, I tend to stick with them. But with everything closed, I just can't see me.
Spending 24/7 in a hotel. I am more barfly than beach bunny and with the rainy season to deal with, I really don't look forward to no bars or nightlife.
Thanks again for your reply. I'd be grateful if you can advise me if the situation changes, for better or for worse.
Based on my own plans, I have already made a number of contacts on TF, but if the bars don't reopen I will probably cancel my trip. Not a criticism of you, but I gave up the butterfly holiday some time ago. I've often found that regular changes often lead to regrets in that yesterday's model was so much better. If I find one that I really like, I tend to stick with them. But with everything closed, I just can't see me.
Spending 24/7 in a hotel. I am more barfly than beach bunny and with the rainy season to deal with, I really don't look forward to no bars or nightlife.
Thanks again for your reply. I'd be grateful if you can advise me if the situation changes, for better or for worse.100% get where you're coming from on the nightlife. Despite the closure of Sweeties, I think it's slowly been improving while I've been here though. Maybe 30-40 customers in each bar in the evening, versus maybe just two on the first few days. There were definitely some freelance chicks working the bars last night, two even sat with me for a minute (before the girl I was with chased them away.).
On the repeating / sticking with a girl you like thing, I understand that completely. I think I just lucked out with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty and I'm tempted to just rotate between them for the remainder of my time in Phuket, because.
Day 9.
Rained all morning and into the early afternoon, properly torrential downpour. Died off to a drizzle in the mid-afternoon and I was bored of lazing around my hotel room. Got talking to a TF girl who looked like 'a good girl. ' Maybe a little plain, but cute, spoke English well. Quite busty, 5'6, 120 lbs, no tattoos. From Issan, no children, flat stomach and curvy. Same age as me - 32.
So, bored and trying to overcome my reticence of being seen in public with Thai girls, I invited her to go for coffee at a little place on Kamala beach. Picked her up and she was 100% the girl in the pictures, no filters used which is nice. On the drive to the beach, we talked. I think there was some mis-understanding during the TF / line conversation, because this time when I asked her what she did for work she said 'Massage. '.
FFS. Thought I was breaking into the non-pro scene. Regardless, we haven't talked money and she seems set on having a good time. Good Time Girl. GTG.
Anyway, she was funny and cute. At the beach cafe, I ordered coffee for the first drink. She ordered a cocktail, which she put away in short order. Second drink, I had a cocktail too and she put away another. I'm thinking this girl will be fun to drink with.
Jump back in the car and drive back to the hotel, stopping for street food on the way. Nice to have a 'guide' doing the ordering, telling me what different things are, making suggestions.
Ditch the car, grab to Patong beach. Start in a restaurant at the far end (Lamai I think it's called). Quite busy, but expensive. I limit her to beer after seeing the price of the first cocktails we have, but even that's a ripoff. Make our way down the beach, stopping at one place part-way down for one drink, then head to the 'best bar' I've found so far in Patong. Right on the corner, across from the big 'Patong Beach' sign.
I sit down outside, she goes to the toilet. Rain suddenly kicks in and I move inside. Joined at my table my two Thai girls in high heels and little dresses. One short and chubby, the other a leggy little spinner. We've barely said two words, not even got past the 'Where you from?' before GTG comes back from the toilet. Short, sharp utterance from GTG the gist of which I imagine was 'leave now before I drag you outside by your hair extensions. '.
GTG is now sulking with me, but she cheers up when I say we can have 'cocktails. ' She calls rum and coke a cocktail and it's reasonable here compared to other places. So we lay into the rum and coke, GTG going drink for drink with me and probably holding it better! She's pretty easy to talk to, holding up her end of the conversation and asking questions. We're both getting drunk, but I want to check out a couple of places on the road behind Beach Road. She finds it really funny when I explain the concept and etymology of a 'bar crawl. '.
Hit a few more places and I get the evils from the waitress at the K Hotel I've been flirting with. GTG keeps ordering weird drinks, some of which she doesn't like. Some odd concoction of sparkling wine and peach juice. She gets them down like a trooper though.
11 pm comes, we're both steaming. I ask her if she wants to go home, or come back to hotel and drink more. Big grin, 'Drink more!' She gets us a bike taxi, taking care of arguing the price down. I'm skeptical of going 'threeup' on the scooter, but I suppose my 170 lb and her 120 lb adds up to one typical farang! My vape has run out of battery by this point and she now wants to smoke too, 'only when drunk. ' 7/11 by my hotel is closed when we get there, so she sends off the taxi to another. He's back quickly, costs me another 100 thb.
Shuttle bus up to the room and as soon as we're inside, I kiss her and get my hands all over her. She's told me she runs on the beach every morning and does callisthenic workouts. It shows. Tight, trim and curvy.
We move to sit on the balcony, laying into the vodka and coke and smoking like chimmneys. Music on, laughing, flirting. Kiwi Girl next door definitely hates me! At one point, we're both sat out there topless. (Me because she wanted to see my tattoos, her because I wanted to see her boobs and they are lovely.) She gives me a massage and she's really good. I give her one, mainly on her arse which is full and firm. She's laughing at my boner, squeezing and prodding at it. I want to go to bed, she wants to drink more. Well, fuck it.
Between us, on top of the skin-full we've already had, we polish off a bottle of Vodka and four big bottles of Chang. When she stands up to go to the toilet, her legs go. She's steaming, I'm steaming. Help her to the toilet, then to the bed. Collapse next to her, both fully dressed, she cuddles in and we're out.
In the morning, I have a massive case of the hangover horn. We're sleeping in spoons, so I 'nudge' GTG awake with it. I've got my hands all over her. Get her t-shirt and bra off, she's giving me a lazy handjob behind her back. Start in on her shorts and 'No boomboom, period. ' Most likely, a lie.
Well, fuck. Ok, blowjob. 'No have condom. ' Well, that's ok. You're only sucking my dick sweetie. 'Condom for blowjob. ' YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME.
Well, breakfast is included with the service, but it's continental. Grab a muffin and fuck off.
'Ok, you go. I tired. ' I'm too hungover and annoyed to care. Point her in the right direction from my door and go back to sleep. As I'm writing this, my phone is buzzing with lovey-dovey messages and selfies she took with me last night. Leaving them on read.
Didn't give her any money, not even taxi. Total damage for the night's carnage was maybe 3000 thb. Despite not actually getting laid, I had fun. And I still really want to fuck her. But she's going to need a major attitude adjustment for me to give her another chance.
Explorer8939
07-10-21, 07:19
In the morning, I have a massive case of the hangover horn. We're sleeping in spoons, so I 'nudge' GTG awake with it. I've got my hands all over her. Get her t-shirt and bra off, she's giving me a lazy handjob behind her back. Start in on her shorts and 'No boomboom, period. ' Most likely, a lie.
Well, fuck. Ok, blowjob. 'No have condom. ' Well, that's ok. You're only sucking my dick sweetie. 'Condom for blowjob. ' YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME.
Didn't give her any money, not even taxi. Total damage for the night's carnage was maybe 3000 thb. Despite not actually getting laid, I had fun. And I still really want to fuck her. But she's going to need a major attitude adjustment for me to give her another chance.This is Thailand.
Even the best plans can be thwarted on any given night.
So, bars are NOT open in Phuket and are NOT serving alcohol?
100% get where you're coming from on the nightlife. Despite the closure of Sweeties, I think it's slowly been improving while I've been here though. Maybe 30-40 customers in each bar in the evening, versus maybe just two on the first few days. There were definitely some freelance chicks working the bars last night, two even sat with me for a minute (before the girl I was with chased them away.).
On the repeating / sticking with a girl you like thing, I understand that completely. I think I just lucked out with Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie With a Booty and I'm tempted to just rotate between them for the remainder of my time in Phuket, because.
Day 9.
Anyway, she was funny and cute. At the beach cafe, I ordered coffee for the first drink. She ordered a cocktail, which she put away in short order. Second drink, I had a cocktail too and she put away another. I'm thinking this girl will be fun to drink with.
I sit down outside, she goes to the toilet. Rain suddenly kicks in and I move inside. Joined at my table my two Thai girls in high heels and little dresses. One short and chubby, the other a leggy little spinner. We've barely said two words, not even got past the 'Where you from?' before GTG comes back from the toilet.
Between us, on top of the skin-full we've already had, we polish off a bottle of Vodka and four big bottles of Chang. When she stands up to go to the toilet, her legs go. She's steaming, I'm steaming. Help her to the toilet, then to the bed. Collapse next to her, both fully dressed, she cuddles in and we're out. I never understand enforcement and Thailand. They close Sweetie because they are worried about people not observing social distancing, and then you mention bars with 30-40 customers. Could tea money have anything to do with that? Anyway, if you are not too impaired, I'd be grateful for the names of any bars you recall. I'm on Youtube most days looking for signs of life on Bangla Rd, and it's not a pretty site. It looks like the bailiffs have moved in and carried out a mass eviction. Signs of life will guide my decision to follow up on my trip.
As far as sticking with the same girl is concerned, I am at an age where I haven't got too many more trips in me. So quality rather than quantity of the trip is the guiding light.
Regardless of the closure of bars, it's good to see that there are girls who are pro-actively "job-seeking". I always refer to the "Where you from", as "the job interview". I try be an equal opportunities employer, and even though most of the applicants don't know where Ireland is, I am patient enough to educate them about that and other issue. S.
Regarding your epic drinking feats, I am going to have to get back into condition. I recently had my first drink in a pub in 15 months. Four pints of Guinness and I was trashed.
Keep on, keeping on.
From the Thaiger. Some woman sat next to a man who tested positive for covid on plane. She was made to quarantine in a different hotel for two weeks. New hotel was 3 times the price as original hotel and not as nice. It's a terrible way to treat a tourist. No govt official has spoken to her. The receptionist at first hotel told her. Actions like this make Thailand look horrible. Why would anyone go there for vacation after seeing this? I love Thailand but it's a shitty place now.
Spend a bunch of money and get treated like shit.
https://youtu.be/_91SYF456UU
I get that Thailand is really suffering now. Maybe they should say no tourists until they are better vaccinated.
From the Thaiger. Some woman sat next to a man who tested positive for covid on plane. She was made to quarantine in a different hotel for two weeks. New hotel was 3 times the price as original hotel and not as nice. It's a terrible way to treat a tourist. No govt official has spoken to her. The receptionist at first hotel told her. Actions like this make Thailand look horrible. Why would anyone go there for vacation after seeing this? I love Thailand but it's a shitty place now.
Spend a bunch of money and get treated like shit.
https://youtu.be/_91SYF456UU
I get that Thailand is really suffering now. Maybe they should say no tourists until they are better vaccinated.Regarding your post, there have since been two now Farang infections on Phuket, though there are no real details on these. Here is what I posted on Thaiger which might give those considering the trip, something to think about:
"I understand the average monthly salary is in the region of 10 k THB. I am just wondering how a local can afford to be off work for two weeks and pay 4 months salary to go into an enforced ALQ?
There is a real problem with the reporting of these stories in that the info is being received piecemeal. This is the first time I've actually read that the round-ups are including Thais. But why not the aircrew too? Were these 15 internees from the Emirates flight the entire passenger manifest of that flight? Or were there those in Biz /1 sr Class who were deemed safe? Why on a plane with about 300+ economy seats were all these people seated so closely together? I understand that 13 or 14 were in a family group, but did the German lady asked to be seated next to others for the company? How did these two new Farang infections arrive? Have all their close contacts been traced and rounded up?
I can understand a lot of the strategy behind the Thai need to isolate suspects, but surely these cases can be adequately by additional tests on say day's 4 and seven. I understand that currently, all sandbox entrants are required to retest on day 7. If day 7 is good enough to absolutely clear these people, why is it not good enough to clear the other 14 close contacts?
Ireland is starting to show signs of a new wave, Today there was a new infection rate of about 1 per 8 k. By comparison, Phuket looks very good at 1 per 44 k today as compared to the Thai overall total of about 1 per 7500. Even that is far better than the UK at about 1 per 2100. But the overall look of Thailand in general reminds me of watching a disaster movie where a dam is showing cracks and is about to burst, and the greatest stress fracture appears to be above Phuket.
I have a flight booked to arrive on Aug 5th, Right now, I am 90% certain to cancel this. Fortunately, I don't need to make a decision now as I can cancel up to three hours prior to take off and get a full cash refund. But if I knew then, what I know now, I would not have been so swift to get the CC out. ".
Story here: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-sandbox-woes-2-foreign-covid-19-cases-delta-variant.
This is Thailand.
Even the best plans can be thwarted on any given night.
So, bars are NOT open in Phuket and are NOT serving alcohol?There's a lots open other than on Bangla Road. They're all doing the pretence of 'selling food. ' If you sit down and just order a drink, they put some peanuts on your table.
I'm 50/50 on staying here another two weeks, or heading over your way to Pattaya on the 15th. I haven't fully researched the logistics / legality of it, with the new lockdown areas and cancelled flights. My flight home is from BKK, so I need to move on at some point.
Considering renting a car one way and making the drive over a couple of days.
I feel like the girls are too spread out here and the logistics of getting them to and from me are a pain.
I never understand enforcement and Thailand. They close Sweetie because they are worried about people not observing social distancing, and then you mention bars with 30-40 customers. Could tea money have anything to do with that? Anyway, if you are not too impaired, I'd be grateful for the names of any bars you recall. I'm on Youtube most days looking for signs of life on Bangla Rd, and it's not a pretty site. It looks like the bailiffs have moved in and carried out a mass eviction. Signs of life will guide my decision to follow up on my trip.
As far as sticking with the same girl is concerned, I am at an age where I haven't got too many more trips in me. So quality rather than quantity of the trip is the guiding light.
Regardless of the closure of bars, it's good to see that there are girls who are pro-actively "job-seeking". I always refer to the "Where you from", as "the job interview". I try be an equal opportunities employer, and even though most of the applicants don't know where Ireland is, I am patient enough to educate them about that and other issue. S.
Regarding your epic drinking feats, I am going to have to get back into condition. I recently had my first drink in a pub in 15 months. Four pints of Guinness and I was trashed.
Keep on, keeping on.Off the top of my head, the bars / restaurants / hotels open and selling alcohol in central Patong / the beach are Lamai on the front, an Irish bar, a place called Tropikal near the big Patong Beach sign (probably the best out of the bunch, in terms of price and patronage. It's where I ran into the freelancers) and on the other road behind it, a bistro type place ran by a French / Belgian guy, Lokal (old K hotel), one or two other places.
There's definitely more life in the expat areas. Nanai Road, Phuket Town, Rawai, Laguna. And if I were you, I'd look at staying there. Lots of the girls seem to be Rawai, too. I'm not the best person to ask about bars and the 'night life. ' I'm not a habitual drinker / bar fly, don't even touch a drop most days. I'm a once a week (if that) weekend millionaire binge drinker.
Day 10.
Another bust, weather-wise. Sideways monsoon rains all day. Hid in the hotel room most of the day dozing off the hangover, with the odd foray out for food (even the street food stalls had given up, so I ended up in a proper restaurant for once) and a drive around to check for signs of life. Barely anybody around.
Punky Tattooed Chick messaged again asking to come over and stay the night. No mention of money (we'd never agreed a long time price.) She turned up about 10 pm with an overnight bag, looking cute as fuck in 'PJs' of sweatpants and tanktop. After the frustrations with Good Time Girl, I couldn't keep my hands off of her in the shuttle up to the room.
Just over the threshold, she grabs and kisses me. Hand down her pants and the crotch of her panties are wet. I don't know what it is about her. She's either a nympho ready to go at the drop of a hat, or we just 'click. ' Whatever, I like it!
Spin her around and bend her down over the desk, in front of the mirror. Trousers and panties around her ankles, it's wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am and I unload my frustration into her. After, we shower together and I'm glad I'm not paying the waterbill. She's in there at least 5-10 minutes after I go to dry off, getting super-dooper clean.
When she comes out, I finally notice she's changed her hair colour. First time, it was light purple. Second time, she was blonde. Now, she's gone to a dark purple colour. On the bed, more kissing, foreplay, rolling around. I'm fingering her and she's soaking again. She shyly asks if I will 'lick. ' I love that. Both a boost to my pride over my oral prowess and it gives the encounter a real 'GFE' feel. Most working girls I've seen in the UK rarely take that kind of initiative, they just want you in and out and would happily whack the condom on and jump on your dick without anything else.
So of course, I comply. I've 'learned' what she likes now. As many fingers as I can get in her (I manage four this time, but I've got small hands / fingers) pressed into her slow and deep, along with sucking and firm tonguing of her clit. She cums much faster this time. Maybe 15-20 minutes.
Leave her semi-comatose on the bed, go to clean up. My beard all matted with her grool makes me laugh. Back on the bed, she goes down on me. An OK blowjob, but they're not really my 'thing. ' They feel nice, but I'm not wasting my load into her mouth when there's a tight, wet little pussy on offer. Missionary, her legs around my waist. And I copy what I've learned she likes with my fingers, slow, deep grind into her, getting faster as I get closer. She seems to enjoy, kissing me the whole time and scratching at my back. I think she cums again. I certainly do.
After, shower again, this time separately. She comes out in her PJs, which I think is pretty cute. After I shower, we smoke on the balcony (she's a bad influence.) Good oral hygiene though. She spends another ten minutes brushing her teeth and gargling mouth wash.
In the bed, lights off, cuddle up. I ask her about her OnlyFans (she asked me to supp. , so I said I want a preview). She shows me some stuff, I take the phone from her and explore through the messages and requests she gets on there and Thai Friendly. Some proper sad perverts out there (I think the worst were Brits haha), and it's giving me a thrill, thinking of all the guys 5000 miles away professing love to her. And she's here, in my bed for the third time.
Fall asleep quickly. In the morning, she's the one to wake me up with her hand squeezing at my morning wood behind her back. Round three begins. Touching, kissing, undressing her again. For the third time, I'm amazed at how wet, how quickly she gets.
Three fingers in her, grinding in slow and deep. And I use my other hand to drag hers down to her clit, guiding her to rub herself. She gets off. We're still in spoons position, so after a few minutes, she pulls my fingers out of her, then reaches back and guides me in. Slow screw, but after cumming twice last night, it's not doing it for me. Into missionary so I can get deeper, really grinding into her. I cum, lie there with her jabbering in my ear for a few minutes. Then it's off for separate showers.
After, another smoke on the balcony, a hug. And she's off to get picked up by her friend. She's halfway down the corridor from my room before I remember I haven't given her anything. Call her back and slip 2000 thb into her purse. Worth it.
Raining again today. And there's a distinct lack of 'things to do' in the rain. Hotel is much busier than it was the first time I got here, lots of families. I don't 'feel' like I can get a girl over during the day. I think the hotel has been turning a blind eye to my activities because I've been so 'discreet,' sneaking in the girls after all the non-degenerates have gone to bed. Sitting on the shuttle bus at 11 am with a girl / walking her up the steep road past all the families at breakfast on their balconies might be too much. And they'll suddenly remember the 500 thb joiner fee / check on vaccination status that scared me the first night.
It's effort, too. Girls are all spread out and getting them up here is an effort, so I'm leery of trying out a new girl after my experience with Good Time Girl and Surprise Spinner.
Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research. Contenders are:
1. Fly to BKK, couple of days in a hotel, then move down to Pattaya and get an Airbnb / condo. Lots more 18/19/20 year old spinners showing on TF than in Phuket.
2. Rent a car one way and do the drive to Pattaya over a couple of days, a few days off of the mongering.
3. Stay in Phuket, move into a rental / AirBnB in the Rawai area.
4. Fly to Chiang Mai.
My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.
Kabukicho Dojo
07-11-21, 07:08
I'm 50/50 on staying here another two weeks, or heading over your way to Pattaya on the 15th.Thank you so much for your reviews, JJ.
I'm guessing you're better off staying in Phuket. Imminent lock down coming for BKK and Chonburi.
Kabukicho Dojo
07-11-21, 07:28
Some woman sat next to a man who tested positive for covid on plane. She was made to quarantine in a different hotel for two weeks. New hotel was 3 times the price as original hotel That is awful and really unlucky for this lady. She said there are 14 people in the ALQ hotel and the covid guy was traveling with a family of 12 or 13. Hotel budget blown. Instead of 6 weeks at the sandbox hotel she uses that money for 2 weeks ALQ.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-11-21, 11:35
Context: I arrived in Patong on July 3rd as part of the Sandbox program. So I am giving a synthetic presentation of the 3 days I just spent here, I understood that some were interested in feedback. I paid the price for the start of the registration procedures which were chaotic to say the least. I am well aware that I am a Guinea pig (and even a pig at all) in the development of the opening to tourism of Thailand. But I intend to make up for it. Anyway, for the moment, I'm pretty happy.
I'm only talking about Patong, not Thailand in general. This testimony is warm, personal, it is necessarily subjective, incomplete, it is a photograph of a very short duration.
State of play: that those who cannot imagine Patong without gogos bars in Bangla road and those who are a little depressed wait a little longer before coming because their case could get worse. 95% of Patong is closed, it looks like a disaster has just happened (like a virus that destroyed humanity for example).
The stage being set, let's get down to business. The remaining 5% of activity is concentrated in spots. So, in the hotel where I am, there are a few tourists which gives the impression of vacation. Likewise, a few restaurants are open on the beach road. Tourists, expats and also pretty Thaies. And we also serve alcohol. Everything seems (almost) as before in these few places.
Otherwise, between 2 meals, I was able to have dates. First source from Paris: Thayfriendly. Do not be too de-illuzion (connoisseurs will appreciate the spelling), for my part I collect 90% of waste on these dating sites (photos where they were young, thin and beautiful but that was before, financial claims really unreasonable, crappy dates, etc.). But some succeed.
Otherwise, in Patong, a lot of massage parlors are open. It's best to make your choice in situ. A few girls in each living room but it's not the crowd. Enough, however, to find the perfect fit. This is still where I have had my best encounters. 7 touches in 3 days and the day is not over. I would like to point out that I hired a motobike, which is essential for getting around because you have to travel a long way to go around the massage parlors, everything else being closed. And then also the time to decide, it is necessary to plan to make the same turn several times. I saw a few 7/11's, laundry and other small businesses open, enough for my needs.
The prices have gone down. Patong has a tradition of being historically expensive. Right now I have found some ST 1000 or even LT 1200 baht quite easily. A lot of reminders to ask me what happened much less before (I must say that I am old hehe).
In summary, I would say that despite this hallucinating (pinch me, I'm having a nightmare) situation, there are opportunities but you have to look for it and prepare yourself well. I would say that even then, it is much better to be in Patong in the event of covid than in Marrakech or Cuba under normal circumstances.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-11-21, 11:40
Of course the following is only my humble testimony, I apologize in advance if I sometimes use words that may offend you (although I think you have thick leather, rascals bands) .
The Thaies know how to lie, moreover they do only that most of the time. But on the other hand, they have more difficulty in simulating (I would say that in France it is the opposite, they do not know how to lie but they know how to fake). So the other night, my little masseuse took my cock with disgust and it was with many faces that she took the end of my penis between her lips while jerking me nervously. What she didn't know, and what I didn't tell her (and how do I translate that?) Was that it turned me on even more. Maybe my Marquis de Sade side that slumbers inside me. She got heartbroken and almost threw up when she picked up my used condom. Mmmmmm I'll be back honey, loved it.
I will tell you another day about all the others who sigh with pleasure in my ear when I climb on them.
On the 4th day of Sandbox for the moment everything is going perfectly. I have plenty of appointments in Patong that I will not all be able to honor because I am leaving for Rawai on Saturday. Without counting all those that I promise to see again and I will not have time, my God. But to choose is to give up and you have to be strong. I am also on Tinder but nothing is going, very weak reactivity and especially a lot of ladyboys (so much the better for those who like) that I take for real women in the photos, they know how to be the buggers.
Honestly, at the moment I don't regret all the sacrifices to come. The people are super available, welcoming, smiling, happy to see tourists and the prices are at the bottom. 1000/1400 Bahts for nice little lots, around 2000 (negotiable especially if you are young, not like me) the LT for quality gogos calibers. Hotel prices are to match. In short, in my opinion, if you have the opportunity, do not hesitate to go for it!
As I said before, a lot of things closed, gogos closed, but. This is Thailand folks. The motivated, you can come, you will find what you are looking for, that's for sure.
From Paris I made my plan: 14 days in Phuket and hop off I head to earth in Pattaya, my beloved city where I have all my habits. Yes but, of all the echoes that I can have, I have doubts, I have pangs now My friend present on the spot tells me that everything is closed, the cases of covid explode, the city will turn red, there are police raids in massage parlors, beach road is deserted (I didn't go there much before), Walking street is black at night. Only a few brothels, covid cluster nests, are open. Not very horny all this. While in Phuket everyone is vaccinated, Rawai seems completely open, I went there this afternoon, and in Patong you can find what you are looking for with a minimum of adaptation. Also, people are relaxed, and I like the hippie and surfer setting of the straw huts in Rawai (where there are great hotels by the way). A cocktail on the edge of the beach facing the sunset, with the hug assured with a beautiful, 'tin I've been waiting for this for 1 year and a half! In short, I'm maturing my plans to change them and stay 1 month in Phuket instead. In Thailand I can change everything at the last moment, adapt to my circumstances and my desires. Only in Thailand.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-11-21, 11:43
Well, it's clear that right now you have to be motivated to come to Phuket. Motivated by something other than the weather and that's another idea of vacations. Kinds of holidays of the 3rd type, straight out of a disaster science fiction film (a formidable virus has decimated the entire planet, I remind you). Everyone is dead except me who managed to survive. Not me, okay.
This morning, to celebrate my 6th day, I was invited (well, it was better that I go) to a small party at the "Phuket Swab Center" everything is said in the title. Meet at 11:30 am near Phuket Town, I preferred to leave my hotel at 10:00 am. Good luck because when I got to Central Phuket Floresta, a big shopping mall, no one knew where the Swab Center was. I must say right away that everyone is remarkably kind, I dare not imagine the same circuit in Paris to deal with the bad humor and indifference of the people. After hospital searches I arrive at a barrier but no, I arrive too early, I have to wait for the opening of the Central. I was the first in the line. 30 minutes later, when I arrive in the Swab center, I see that there are already people waiting to be checked in. My thoughts are racing in my head, how did they go? Amazing Thailand. I am handed a number, that will be my order of passage. I guess everyone is smiling behind the masks. In any case we do not stop greeting each other, frankly I feel that the heart is there. Everyone has good will and the Thais are compassionate to see us waiting submissive like animals at the slaughterhouse.
I think the Thai hospital administration was formed in France. 1 hour wait to register and 3. 5 seconds to have your nose swept.
The cloud will not wait for him and it is in a torrential rain that I return to Patong. I remind you that I am on a scooter.
For the trouble I went to console myself directly for a massage (with boom boom) at my little Nong (23 years old) so lovely that I offered to become her sugar daddy, luckily she laughed and didn't believe me.
Christian G
07-11-21, 11:44
Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research. Contenders are:
1. Fly to BKK, couple of days in a hotel, then move down to Pattaya and get an Airbnb / condo. Lots more 18/19/20 year old spinners showing on TF than in Phuket.
2. Rent a car one way and do the drive to Pattaya over a couple of days, a few days off of the mongering.
3. Stay in Phuket, move into a rental / AirBnB in the Rawai area.
4. Fly to Chiang Mai.
My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.Fly to Pattaya, rent a condo there and avoid BKK.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-11-21, 11:56
Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research.
My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.Exactly the same for me. The only one difference is my flight on 29th.
SoberWorld
07-11-21, 15:40
So, as it turns out, CWB meant she would do a threesome. But not with this girl, who shall henceforth be known as PTC (Punky Tattooed Chick.) Turns out, PTC was her very best friend. And she even strongly hinted she didn't want me to even see PTC.
She's definitely my type. Punky vibe, purple hair, tattoos and facial piercings. I think she's shorter than CWB, but with a tiny bit more flesh on her bones. Very sweet natured too.Dude,
Loving the reports and sounds so awesome. Got my visa done and coming down on the 28th. Can't wait to check out the attractions after a torrid dry spell in Germany.
My request is to kindly share details of PTC via a PM. And if it's not possible then please do let me know where I could look her up amongst the herd.
As for me, I've got a few Suzy Wong women currently based in Phuket to satisfy the need, but perhaps they will demand a higher return on investment including dinner and blah blah blah.
But will only finalize with them when I land since everything else is technically just bullshit LOL.
Thanks for the tips on visa etc.
Used it and got mine done.
Now for the dream to come true.
Member #4698
07-11-21, 16:51
Janni, I have enjoyed reading your trip reports. Thanks for letting us know what it is like being in Phuket this rainy season.
There's a lots open other than on Bangla Road.
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Still haven't made plans what I'm doing after I'm released from the Sandbox on the 15th. And I'm not even sure what will be possible, given the new lockdown areas. I need to do my research. Contenders are:
1. Fly to BKK, couple of days in a hotel, then move down to Pattaya and get an Airbnb / condo. Lots more 18/19/20 year old spinners showing on TF than in Phuket.
2. Rent a car one way and do the drive to Pattaya over a couple of days, a few days off of the mongering.
3. Stay in Phuket, move into a rental / AirBnB in the Rawai area.
4. Fly to Chiang Mai.
My flight home is from BKK on the 28th.You are much better informed than Moi on current conditions and on what you specifically like, but if I were in your position, I would skip option #1 BKK and option #4 Chiang Mai for sure. BKK is going into another lockdown and it has no beach so forgetaboutit. Chiang Mai is a BYO kind of place especially now so forgetaboutit too.
That leaves you with option #2 & option #3 both of which sound kind of good to me. Option #2 provided you can find a one way car rental, would have a lot of sightseeing plus you can take your time and stop off in Hua Hin on the way to Pattaya. Option #3 sounds good too ie just keep doing what you are doing and have a good time until the day before your scheduled flight back home when it will be time to get up to BKK.
With the Covid measures in place Pattaya probably is only marginally better than Phuket girly wise, but Phuket has many beautiful beaches which at the present time are left almost all to yourself which is a once in a lifetime event. I know because I was in Rio de Janeiro in April during their lockdown and all the beautiful RJ beaches were semi deserted and all mine. It was amazing.
Remember that in Pattaya you will need to find a hotel with a decent swimming pool. The Beach in Pattaya looks good, but you can't go in the water unless you are out of your friggin' mind. LOL. So, I seem to be leaning towards option #3: staying in Phuket, but option #2 driving up the Kra Isthmus, seeing the sights, stopping off in Hua Hin for a night or 2 or 3, and driving to Pattaya is not bad idea at all.
I look forward to reading about your ultimate decision either way. 555. Stay safe and have a great time.
NB.
HorseTrader
07-11-21, 20:14
As for me, I've got a few Suzy Wong women currently based in Phuket to satisfy the need, but perhaps they will demand a higher return on investment including dinner and blah blah blah.
One of my Phuket favorites is a Suzy Wong girl. Long ago she went to Isaan and hasn't returned, same as many others. When I talk to her about going back to Phuket she only says "no money in Phuket". Have you recently verified that your Suzy Wong girls are still in Phuket?
Gentlemen. All of you in Phuket are now trailblazers. All the bars close at 11 so there is no need for bar fines now. You all have a chance to reset the prices. Don't get me wrong if you find a young stunner 10+++pay her what you feel, but don't go crazy. We all know there are not that many Unicorns in Phuket. 1500 be for short time. Make it happen. You have the power. Don't give in. Stay focused. This is for the greater good as us that follow will will maintain the new market price.
Yes, with Phuket and it's citizens and businesses suffering like never before let's encourage cheapness by tourists. Let's bankrupt bars that haven't made money in over a year. Probably long term it's terrible for everyone
Gentlemen. All of you in Phuket are now trailblazers. All the bars close at 11 so there is no need for bar fines now. You all have a chance to reset the prices. Don't get me wrong if you find a young stunner 10+++pay her what you feel, but don't go crazy. We all know there are not that many Unicorns in Phuket. 1500 be for short time. Make it happen. You have the power. Don't give in. Stay focused. This is for the greater good as us that follow will will maintain the new market price.
Yes, with Phuket and it's citizens and businesses suffering like never before let's encourage cheapness by tourists. Let's bankrupt bars that haven't made money in over a year. Probably long term it's terrible for everyoneAll due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.
I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.
You didn't say don't overpay. You said wait until 11 so you don't pay barfine. So bars have to close early and miss that business, and you want them to miss out on barfines too. How do you expect bars to make money? I guess it's their problem. You do what you want to do. But bars aren't going to reset prices to take a loss. If you don't want to barfine find a freelancer. If you want the benefits of bars, be fair.
I never understand posters who think other mongers should work to drive down price. I don't overpay, but I want to be fair. If a bar offers value to me I expect to pay for it. To encourage people not to is cheap in the greedy sense if the word.
All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.
I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.
Mr Enternational
07-11-21, 23:01
Gentlemen. All of you in Phuket are now trailblazers. All the bars close at 11 so there is no need for bar fines now. You all have a chance to reset the prices. Don't get me wrong if you find a young stunner 10+++pay her what you feel, but don't go crazy. We all know there are not that many Unicorns in Phuket. 1500 be for short time. Make it happen. You have the power. Don't give in. Stay focused. This is for the greater good as us that follow will will maintain the new market price.You are joking right? In 16 years I have never paid 1500 baht for Short Time in Thailand. I have only paid 1500 baht for Long Time twice. It is like you are getting fucked big time, but you are trying to show pride by only fucking yourself little time. For 3 of those short times I can pay my rent for an entire month.
HorseTrader
07-11-21, 23:09
All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.
I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.Your username is appropriate.
You are joking right? In 16 years I have never paid 1500 baht for Short Time in Thailand. I have only paid 1500 baht for Long Time twice. It is like you are getting fucked big time, but you are trying to show pride by only fucking yourself little time. For 3 of those short times I can pay my rent for an entire month.You must only fuck the fat uglies then.
Your username is appropriate.Bu was probably correct until the Thai Gov't gets a real vaccine program finished and not using Sinoshit. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-medical-workers-covid-19-sinovac-vaccinations-15199394.
And cuts the red tape.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/thailand-sandbox-program/
Once those wanting to come back to LOS and do not want to do a 14 day quarantine in BKK dry up the sand box will be empty.
HorseTrader
07-12-21, 01:41
Bu was probably correct until the Thai Gov't gets a real vaccine program finished and not using Sinoshit. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-medical-workers-covid-19-sinovac-vaccinations-15199394.
And cuts the red tape.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/thailand-sandbox-program/
Once those wanting to come back to LOS and do not want to do a 14 day quarantine in BKK dry up the sand box will be empty.I won't be doing sandbox as long as vaccinated foreigners are locked up because they sat on the airplane near unvaccinated but sick children. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that has already happened.
You are joking right? In 16 years I have never paid 1500 baht for Short Time in Thailand. I have only paid 1500 baht for Long Time twice. It is like you are getting fucked big time, but you are trying to show pride by only fucking yourself little time. For 3 of those short times I can pay my rent for an entire month.Are you saying you have not been in 16 years because I was in Patts in 2018 and BARFINE at some places was B1300 and girls wanted B2000-2500 for short time. I did the soapy a couple of times as that was better value. I have seen post where guys are paying B3000 in Phuket. If you did not post a pic of B3000 bar girl. You overpaid 🤦127998;8205;9794;65039;129335;127997;8205;9794;65039;.
Mr Enternational
07-12-21, 01:53
Are you saying you have not been in 16 years because I was in Patts in 2018 and BARFINE at some places was B1300 and girls wanted B2000-2500 for short time. I did the soapy a couple of times as that was better value. I have seen post where guys are paying B3000 in Phuket. If you did not post a pic of B3000 bar girl. You overpaid 🤦127998;8205;9794;65039;129335;127997;8205;9794;65039;.I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.
One of my favorite things to do in Thailand was wander the bars and play games with bar girls, connect four, jackpot etc. Drink a few beers, joke with the girls then go to another bar and do same. If I met a girl I liked and had fun with, I'd barfine her for the night and off we'd go. You probably had prettier girls a lot of the time and almost certainly cheaper, but I enjoyed my time there a lot.
Different people enjoy life differently and value money differently.
I do enjoy your posts and have used what you've said to get better value in the past. So thanks for that.
I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.
Mr Enternational
07-12-21, 05:27
One of my favorite things to do in Thailand was wander the bars and play games with bar girls, connect four, jackpot etc. Drink a few beers, joke with the girls then go to another bar and do same. If I met a girl I liked and had fun with, I'd barfine her for the night I do that sometimes too. But instead of barfining I will just add the girl on Line and have her get with me when she finishes work or a day that she is off. I have a lot to keep me busy so I am never like oh I have to have this chick right now.
SoberWorld
07-12-21, 07:13
One of my Phuket favorites is a Suzy Wong girl. Long ago she went to Isaan and hasn't returned, same as many others. When I talk to her about going back to Phuket she only says "no money in Phuket". Have you recently verified that your Suzy Wong girls are still in Phuket?Dude,
There is something weird going on with these women. Yes a ton of them are still in Phuket and have found part time boyfriends to take care of them or whatever! But for some reason they are not so approachable anymore. Keep replying back with a "don't worry xxx, we will find you some nice girls. I cannot because I only work when at Suzy Wong" go figure.
Will have to change my approach on this. But it's a waste. Should be able to do more when I am in Phuket so have saved up time to meet them outside for lunch etc.
But now seriously considering investing into premium on ThaiFriendly to.
Weed out the clutter and find me some hot mamas.
To be continued.
P.S. My girl from Bangkok now can't travel since they closed down domestic flights and Bangkok to Phuket by bus is 12 hours.
So need to sort out a steady supply.
Global1810
07-12-21, 08:03
I am a little confused with all the back and forth regarding pricing.
It is very important for me to never over pay as it is not good to mess up the ecosystem.
Can someone either post or PM a real price scheme? I never been to Thailand and am planning a trip. Got a lot of good info but too much inconsistency in prices to feel comfortable going here yet.
Thanks in advance.
By the way. Colombia is doing good right now and prices are only slightly higher than pre covid if you are interested in drama free travel.
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