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[RCA Knight]

Virgil,

I went to Ubon 2 times before. It is not very active in monger scene. There are karaokes where you can take out ladies. The hotel bell boy introduced me 2 places. One is near the corner of Krung Thong Hotel. And I also went to another one near Regent Palace Hotel. I do not remember the both names because only Thai signs. The level of girls was not so good. Korat, Khon Khen, Udon are all better in choice. And the mama quote me a off-fee of 700 at the first place and 650 at second place and then you have to pay tip to lady yourself, mama said about 1500. So I only had some beer and left. Did not have a good selection.

There is a big disco at Nevada Grand Hotel. There were amatures and also part timers. That was where I picked up my company both times. You can ask your hotel for the karaoke location. I think there are only 2-3 major ones in the city. Then you can try the disco scene at Nevada Hotel. I am mot aware of any soapie there.

[Vchip]

Virgil,

Just curious, but was wondering what kind of job you found for yourself in Ubon? Sorry, but I don't have any current info for you on the Ubon mongering scene but I know that it is a sizable city and am sure that your pecker won't start growing any moss. I also suspect that since you'll be living there, especially if you can speak some Thai, that a bunch of freebies will become available to you.

[Coma Boy]

Can someone tell me how to ask the tuk-tuk driver to take me to the right place?
There's a million ways to ask a tuk-tuk driver for pussy, here's one-

"kuhn pah pom bai ha sao dai mai krap".

[Coma Boy]

Ubon Ratchathani- does anyone know what the scene is like there?Not a lot for Farang, but if you speak Thai it is reasonably easy to pick up chicks in public places.

There are a couple of karaokes and massage parlours tucked away, but I can't remember any directions or addresses- just ask your hotel, tuk-tuk driver or bartender.

I've stayed at the Tohsang Hotel. Nothing special, but serves its purpose, and no problems returning with a girl. If you find a better hotel please let me know.

[Johan Waans]

One of the nicest hotels in Ubon(think it is called 'Patumrat') has a soapie attached to it.It is on the main road.If you walk out of the hotel and turn right there is a small market area and a little bit behind that is a small red light area with a go go and a karaoke.

Not far from Patumrat across the road ,as you walk out to the left,is another very nice and big hotel which has a disco in the basement and an entertainment area with a cinema attached to it.

Or just ask a tuk tuk to take you to the 200 baht girls.

Good luck.

[Konan Grit]

Hi guys,

I can't seem to find anything about Ko Chang here. Unfortunately the search omits Ko as it's too short a word, so Chang isn't much use as lots of mongers drink that in Thailand. :)

Anyway, thinking of going there in a couple of weeks, I live in Pattaya. Is there any sort of scene there? How about non working girls, easy to pull? I'm quite young and not bad looking.

Thanks,

Konangrit

[Jack Spratt]

Konan

There is plenty happening on Koh Chang. The main area is at White Sands Beach, where there are a couple of bars in the middle of the township. Going south (towards Kai Bai) you can find a large beer bar complex on the left side of the road - probably about 10 bars, and more than 50 ladies.

Further south at Kai Bai there is a nice beer bar on the main street, opposite the 7/11 right as you hit the township.

Prices seem to be quite high ie think Bangkok rather than Pattaya - I was there with my girlfriend, so cannot give first hand experiences.

No idea about the freebie scene, but I imagine it would be not much diferent from the rest of Thailand.

jack

[Konan Grit]

Thanks Jack.

That sounds good enough for me, I'll see what accomodation I can find at White Sands beach, any recommendations?

[Ruzhyo]

I be going there tomorrow. Should reach in the late afternoon, Hope I could find a nice room that cost not more then 2300B on white sand beach.

Will let you all know whats nice there soon.

[Jaimito Cartero]

Freeler, interesting editing of the pictures. Quite colorful. :)

[JuiceSpike]

Nice animation... keep them cumming.

juice

[Freeler]

Juice,

They keep me cummin'...

WTF, here's another one...
BTW, Jack's a girl... And I like the way her cheeks go 'bulb':).

[MeatMan]

Freeler,

You never cease to amaze me!. Good work my man!:D

[Freeler]

Hi Meatman,

N, mother of ho's, a B200 fuck, suck&cumcatch-package at work.
Why can't all women be like her?

[1Ball]

Freeler, too fucking funny.

Still have no clue how u did it, but I loved it. :confused:

[Freeler]

1ball,

I already said how I did it: I used Photoline to resize the pix, Magic-morph for the basic animation and Ulead Gif-maker to finish it.

Or were you referring to the non-sexual act of throatfucking?
Just push in and pull out (repeat until done):).

[Native Humper]

I will be in the Bangkok airport for about a ten hour layover from 9:00 PM to 6:00 AM. I know about the short time rooms for rent for four hours at a time in the airport, but how do I find a girl in the airport to share this room with?

[Domino]

good katoey warning on the bkk page. one thing accentuating this is the clampdown which has pushed all the trouble on the street. domino spotted a guy pull a katoey a few nights ago and lure "her" into the dark. i watched the katoey and friend approach the mug but, just like all those jesus movies, we know how it will end (more nails centurian). so i did not stay to watch the inevitable shakedown. no wonder grace gave them the heaveho. they do have a following however.

anyway, i am far from them here in mae sae. good points: the hairless burmese pussy costs 300 shorttime, 1000 long time. i took her longtime (she had a hairy pussy though) but sent her packing after 2 or so hours as the backpackers in the next rooms had rap or some such bs music going and i wanted to end the romance before she fell in love with me. mae sae has nice, cheap strawberries and some bitter sweet fruit i highly recommend: looks like a cross between a pink grape and a pink gooseberry. the strawberries were also good value. i hope to buy more tomorrow and maybe post a strawberry pasta recipe for the choirboys as i know how much they appreciate them.

internet is 25 baht an hour which i can manage.

the burmese ladies are all little porkies (a bit more height and they would do well at grace). the porker i took yapped non stop about money problems in pidgin pidgin english. she was almost as bad as the backpackers in the next rooms.

she told me, in between pidginese, that burmese don't do bj, cbj or bbbj. she was happy to do covered anal and thought it all a big joke, until the condom broke. a good massage if you are a masochistic mackerel.

airasia gave a good deal to chiang rai, 600 baht all in but the plane was only 25% full. 200 baht taxi to cr bus terminal (a monopolistic rip off) and 25 baht bus to ms which is awash with cut price burmese hairless pussy with hair.

the big sikh offspring i reported on in bkk section claimed to have a waif by a german who sends her 10,000 baht a month. she says she could not manage without donations (cash not sperm) from dudes like domino.

just thought this mae sae info might come in useful. brothels are on the right of the burmese checkpoint (massage parlors all under the same mama san), backpacker shitholes from 100 to 250 baht on the left.

[Ruzhyo]

I be going there tomorrow. Should reach in the late afternoon, Hope I could find a nice room that cost not more then 2300B on white sand beach.

Will let you all know whats nice there soon.I stayed at Magic Resort. Nice rooms, with aircon, ventilaition fan, wall fan, TV, fridge, attached bathroom, breakfast. All for 1300B a day. Good and cheap.

[B Cowey]

I will be up in Chiang Rai in a months time and wondered if anyone from the forum had any experrience of the scene in Chiang Rai and the best places to go and score TG's. Have read the obvious guide books about Jet Yot expat area but it sounds pretty tame. Am only in the city for three days so I dont have much time to explore and draw a blank. I hear that the girls are very cute up north and your baht goes a long way. Any advise welcome guys.

[Coma Boy]

Yeah, there is a pretty decent scene in CR. Nothing compared to CM but still a lot of fun.

Behind the clock-tower, near the Wiang Inn Hotel there is a small soi with a bunch of beer-bars and go-go's. Those should suffice for your three day visit- plenty of available young babes.

Plus, there are a few good discos in town where, unless you're a Jabba, you can pick up girls without too much difficulty. Just buy a bottle of Johnny and girls will magically appear by your side. Like sexy leeches.

Not a lot to do during daylight hours in the centre of town, so sleep in late, fuck, swim, or flee to the hills. Good hills.

The most centrally located hotel is the Wiang Inn hotel, but definitely go for the best available room, their standard rooms are pretty shitty. You can literally walk about two minutes from here to the beer-bars.

If you don't mind being a short distance from the action then go for The Legend or The Dusit hotels. I've never had problems bringing home guests.

C-B.

[Domino]

I am in this sleepy shit heap right now. Last night - and yesterday - I toured the go go area. There is a gay and straight place both called Lobo; both obviously owned by the same dudes and indicative that there is a scam on here as there are so few places and what places there are seem decidedly sleepy and empty and, as regards the meat on offer, over priced. I was offered short time for 1500 baht but just laughed. I passed these places up to about 10 pm and they were dead. There are no more than 8-10 places in all. I feel like jumping on a bus back to Mae Sai for a 300 baht bonk.


The tourist streets mentioned are a watered down version of Chiang Mai: bearded guys barely beyond their first shave, German retirees, tourist trinkets.

I tried finding a lady house but lucked out with my bicycle driver who, like his friends, was quite drunk.

When I last passed the go gos (or whatever), there were probably up to 30 women and no guys at all. I thought the women unattractive and inert. So, if that appeals to you, gp for it. Otherwise go somewhere else.

[Coma Boy]

Yorkie, also there are plenty of cheap and nasty brothels tucked away. If you like it like that.

[Coma Boy]

Have just read Domino's report. He is correct, in that there isn't a great scene there, and I certainly wouldn't recommend going there for the action, but if you are already going there's more than enough pussy to keep you occupied.

Domino is also correct about CR being a watered down version of CM- "bearded guys barely beyond their first shave, German retirees, and tourist trinkets".

I always have a lot of fun there, but I do visit several times a year, plus I speak Kam Muang (Northern Thai). On my last few trips I've mostly bypassed the go-go area and instead gone for girls at the disco or in the night market.

Not sure why Domino was getting charged so much for ST, generally in that bar-strip prices are 800 ST and 1000-1500 LT, not including bar-fine.

So yes, don't go there for the sex, but if you're going anyway then you need not sleep alone.

The best thing about CR is staying outside town in the hills, taking a girl with you.

I've often taken a CM girl there for a few nights of peace, nature and tranquility, and yet we've fucked like nasty pigs!

C-B.

[Freeler]

"yorkie, also there are plenty of cheap and nasty brothels tucked away."

about two years ago the police raided those places and they are most definitely gone.
the tuk-tuk people only take you to houses where they asume some girls can be had. i gave up on mongering in chiangrai, because none of those girls could be had and others indeed, as domino posted, ask for outrageous sums of money.
'that street' offers you the chance to peek into the lives of non-working-expats in thailand - it isn't pretty:(.

[Lee66]

Domino,

Do you mean Grace Hotel in Bangkok? I am there now, coming to Mae Sai next week, then to Tachilek and Mong La. As you all know that area is just a shadow of its past, Grace also is now. But Tachilek is improving, and Mong La was great but not cheap.

[B Cowey]

Thanks for the advise guys, as a new poster I guess I didnt expect such an informative response, thanks. I have a map and a bike from ST Autos and will report back on my return.

Yorkie out

[Domino]

before commenting on nan, let me say:

1 good **** post by freeler in pattaya section.
2. yes, you can bonk bareback with zero risk of hiv. read on.
3. the strip in c rai is on a privately owned road so it is probably a political deal there. the bus stration at night might be ok fro a look but not worth the hassle. there is a cheap hotel nearby.
4. nan is a long way from anywhere, including the burmese piggies of mae sai who told me going bareback in burma is fine as there is no hiv there. so now you know: the 300 baht sluts tell me what the un don't want to hear. burma is hiv free and santa, who bonks there, is hiv free too.
5. the brothels of nan and phrae have the highest hiv rate in los. where you get hiv, you get hookers, where you get brothels you get hookers and where you get hookers, you get

john skinless domino
smokin em out in the brothels of nan

[Domino]

This is the sleepiest Thai town I have ever been in. It is asleep by 10 pm Friday night. No taxis, motorbikes etc to be seen after that. Domino patrolled by motorbike along the river, past the big military base, past all the cheap hotels, night markets etc. Nothing. No massage parlors, no tuk tukers asking if I need anything, no one speaks English, no teenagers out having a (good) time. This place is the end of the road, no through traffic so not much p4p. The town itself is a colection of wats and concentric roads. Nothing much to see really. Just as well I am staying in a 180 baht short time hotel along the main street, which is so quiet at night it is hard to believe it is the main street of even a village.

[The Traveler]

... No massage parlors, no tuk tukers asking if I need anything, no one speaks English, no teenagers out having a (good) time. This place is the end of the road, no through traffic so not much p4p. ....
Domino,

since Thailand seems to be your favoured destination, why not finally learn a couple of thai words for some basic conversation ? That will ease up traveling and no one needs to speak English.

[Fighter 654]

Does anyone know of the scoop in Hua Hin?

It seems pretty tame compared to other cities.

Thanks

[Coma Boy]

Yes, it is more tame.

But, you won't have to sleep alone.

[Freeler]

Coma, Fighter,

I'm not sure that 'tame' is the right word. It's more like laid back.
Speaking of which: If you get laid back there you may find your girl runnin' off after one round.
They have a strange definition of 'long time'...

I bring my own to hua Hin.
Less bullshit = more holiday!

[Terry Terrier]

Fighter 654

The main action is on the beer bar-lined Soi Bintabaht opposite the entrance to the Hilton hotel. Got to say though that any beer bar that names itself 'Starfish' (2nd on the left) has a little to learn about marketing.

Many of the still-available girls gravitate to the excellent Hua Hin Brewing Company disco (on the front of the Hilton) after midnight to freelance.

[Philo]

Exept from the students (who are very lovely, but difficult to get), most of the farang catering girls in HH are old, fat and ugly.

HH is crowded with farangs who have married a 40+ year old former hooker.

Except from Soi Bintabat (all hotels have the 'Thaiways' map), there are a few bars in the soi leading from Poon Suk Rd to Soi 57. Also, you can find girls in some bars/restaurants around HH Bazar (100 m. from the beach - Damnern Kasem Rd).

There is only one MP in HH, it goes by the name Diamond Pub. Any taxi or MC outside the shopping mall knows the place. Price: 1500 - but you need a sweet mouth, the two girls I like will not go with me - 'mai koey bpai kap farang ma gon'.

In Soi 72 (the tourist strip where the non available student show their assets) there are two houses for Thai men. ST: 300, 500 for farang. Same story: The young girls will not go: 'farang ham jai - goh dtoa farang men'. If you want to try your luck, tell an MC at the shopping mall that you want to 'bpai tiow puying glai glai talat ponn'. MC 15 + tip 100 for introducing you.

West of the railway tracks (on the unnamed street with an elephant picture (on the map)), you will find several karaoke/restaurants for the Thais. I have taken out 'nakrongplaeng' (singers) many times: 1200+. You need a taxi from the shopping mall: 150 for 2 hours (he waits you - and take you and the girl back. OK, now high season, may be more?).

Final advice: HH is a fcucking tourist machine, totally boring...and crowded with white holiday trash.

Good luck.

(Freeler: I have found me a beauty from Phitsanulok: Will I survive there?)

[Freeler]

Philo,

"Final advice: HH is a fucking tourist machine, totally boring...and crowded with white :red: holiday trash :red:."
You know better than that!
HH is home to visitors from Scandinavia, mainly families. People are known to get stuck there, simply because it is... pleasantly boring.

A b-e-a-u-t-y from Pilok? You must be joking:D!
That aside, I haven't seen many corpses on the streets of Pilok lately. One would assume that you at least stand a chance...

[Philo]

Thanks

I will try it out. These lips (both pairs) are My Dick's Green Grass of Home.

Phitsanulok, here I come ...

[Vince the Dog]

I'll be in Udon Thani at the end of april and stay for a few weeks. Any hotel recomendations for under 1000 baht.
I want something quite, well lit, safe in room, gf, satelite tv, and private.

Is that asking to much? I don't have to be in the center of town. I prefer the quite and privacy.

I would think a 1000 Baht would go a long way up there.

thanks

[Philo]

Try Udon Hotel or Karin Hotel. B 400-800. I have stayed in both of them on and off for more than a year. Never had a problem ...

For this amount there is no tourist safe in the room though - but the deposit boxes/safe in the reception gives the same result.

Please tip the girls what you save from the 1000 you can afford.

Thanks

http://www.udonmap.com/udon_thani_accommodation.html

[Johnson45]

Were can I get my Hiv test in Udon Thani?

Thx

[Coma Boy]

Any hospital can test you, and there are plenty of hospitals in Udon.

The Aek Hospital is small but has a good reputation, but for something as straight-forward as a blood test they should all be equally proficient.

[Johnson45]

This is not a mongering report but I want to share what I saw in Udon. I'm here visting a friend I met so I have not been out mongering.

We went to visit her family in outside of Udon (Nang Bua Lam Phu). In her little village of about 100 people there were two women with aids and there husbands and children had it also. One of them said they got it from her husband who also worked at a bar.

It was so scary to see this up close that it scared the hell out of me. It made me regret everytime I didn't use a condom.

When I was in pattaya I would ask farangs who lived there if aids is a problem and everybody said no. I wonder if it's becuase no one talks abot it when they get it.

Anyway I just wanted to share this. Its "up to you " what this all means.

I was so scared yesterday when we went to the hopital to get are blood test. We are both clean for HIV and Hep A. Hep B took to long for the results so I passed since I won't be here that long.

Good Luck All.

[Coma Boy]

When I was in Pattaya I would ask Farang who lived there if AIDS is a problem and everybody said no. I wonder if it's because no one talks about it when they get it.Thai hospitals, especially those in Pattaya, have huge numbers of registered HIV+ expats.

One of these hopsitals (Bangkok Pattaya Hopsital I think), has the highest number of registered HIV+ foreigners in all of Asia.

Plus, British hospitals (and most likey Europe, US etc) have very high numbers of out-patients who caught the virus whilst in SE Asia.

So, you are probably correct, no-one wants to talk about it. Unfortuanately many of these guys also continuing mongering as usual. I've met guys with the revenge mentality- they got it from a bar-girl so they don't feel guilty if they give it back to a bar-girl. Fucking assholes!

Plus, it is shocking how many HIV+ bar-girls still continue to work as normal across the country.

[Domino]

Coma Boy: If you have any hard figures/sources on this, I and others would be interested.


Thai hospitals, especially those in Pattaya, have huge numbers of registered HIV+ expats. One of these hopsitals (Bangkok Pattaya Hopsital I think), has the highest number of registered HIV+ foreigners in all of Asia. Plus, British hospitals (and most likey Europe, US etc) have very high numbers of out-patients who caught the virus whilst in SE Asia.

So, you are probably correct, no-one wants to talk about it. Unfortuanately many of these guys also continuing mongering as usual. I've met guys with the revenge mentality- they got it from a bar-girl so they don't feel guilty if they give it back to a bar-girl. Fucking assholes!

Plus, it is shocking how many HIV+ bar-girls still continue to work as normal across the country.

[Coma Boy]

Don't have any figures to hand, but I often visit hopsitals across the country (not as a patient), plus regularly socialise with Thai doctors and this is what they tell me.

Shocking stuff indeed, but not really suprising.

Am sure it is easily-Google-able common knowledge.

[MeatMan]

I'll be going here for a day to check out the "old capital". Is there any action around here? From what I was told the college girls here do not make a lot of money, so they either work the rice fields or find another alternative. Info would be great. Thanks!

In the meantime, I'll be RTFF to find out if there in any useful information regarding Ayutthaya (Hope there is!)

[Coma Boy]

Ayutthaya is a nice place for a quick break from BKK, but aside from the historical attractions not really too much going on there. There are a couple of small discos and bars but these are very Thai style so no established pick-up scene for Westerners. Basically any Ayutthaya local interested in fucking Farang is only an hour or so from Bangkok.

But it is easy enough to get chatting to groups of girls at night, and easy enough to get someone back to your room. I've also met BKK bar-girls I know there who have been visiting family and friends.

I prefer meeting girls at the shopping mall during the day, taking them for dinnner then letting them take me out to one of the little discos. There is one shopping centre where everyone seems to hang out during daylight hours, give that a try.

There will of course be the usual Thai sex scene, brothels, MPs etc. but I've no idea where these are.

[MeatMan]

Thanks Coma,

Next time I come here I will do a bit more extensive research on it.

Ayutthaya-

I got a great deal for 1050BHT which includes a trip to the palace,the old capital, and a boat trip along the Chao Prya river. It was one of the most wonderful!. The trip started off with a stop off at Bang Pa Palace. If you like history check it out.

I saw the Ho Hem Momithan Thewart shrine, and many other palaces. The people who work here keep the place up kept and VERY tidy. By far the most intersting place I saw while there was the Prha Thinang Aisawan Thiphta-Art palace. Very Beautiful

NOTE: I strolled off to the food stalls nearby the palace. I grabbed some rice, spicy chicken, and a soda. total price 50BHT. Now why go home hmm?:D

I also mingled with the locals who live here. Now I can't speak Thai very well if not hardly at all. But with a few smiles and broken English it made out a-ok.

***Next stop, the city of Ayutthaya or "old capital"***

Once there, temples, temples, temples..and more temples!. Just looking at these beautiful sculptures just shows how proud the Thai people are about there culture and history. I was simply awed! I took plenty of pictures for lasting memories. I will come back to this place again!.

***Next stop, the boat ride***

The ride along the river was great!. For lunch they served plenty of food. I had for the 1st time spicy prawn soup. It was good and spicy like I thought it would be. Also I had Udon Noodles, beef and mixed vegetables. Stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey after I was done.

During the boat ride, I took pictures along the river. One place that took my interest was the Singha Beer Factory and the Department Of Corrections!. Looking at the DOC it looked nice on the out side..but on the inside. I wouldn't think of it.


The trip ended at the Novohotel around 5:00pm. Over all the staff were nice, professional and accomidating. I will be doing it again soon!. But this time it will be much more on the sex scence as I like to think "outside the box"

MeatMan

[Coma Boy]

To save answering any more PMs regarding Chiang Rai, Mae Sai, and Tachilek, here is a bunch of crap about the region.

Basically don't go to Chiang Rai to monger, it’s a nice base if you wanna go play in the mountains, or hide in the hills, but if you want lots of girls you’re a million times better off in Chiang Mai. But should you find yourself in CR head over to Sperm Club (yes, yes, I know), or Par Club (both close to Big C), or Where-Else Club (near the clock tower). There are also a few smallish beer-bars, plus an area with lame go-go bars and boy-bars (behind the clock tower), but the aforementioned discos are where all the hotties hang. Am not a brothelist or a MP-fan so can’t advise on those.

Strangely, it is actually easier to reach CR from BKK, rather than CM, as there are plenty of direct flights from there. But most visitors probably start in Chiang Mai and go to CR to escape the “relative” hectic-ness of CM.

From CM you can fly (takes about 45 minutes), or drive, or take the bus.

-Flying is kind of stupid, as by the time you get to the airport, wait, board, fly, land, etc., you won’t have saved any time, and will have spent more money.

-If you’re driving/being-driven then an excellent pit-stop is the small town of Wiang Ba Bao, where you can eat the best Khao-Man-Gai in Northern Thailand.

-The air-con bus goes from the CM bus station, takes about three hours (it’s good; new, clean, reclining seats). There will always be some selfish prick sat in front of you reclining his seat too far. Resting your magazine on his stupid inconsiderate head usually sends the right message (also works on planes).

To reach Mae Sai, either stay on this air-con bus after it passes through Chiang Rai, or spend one night in CR and take a normal bus to Mae Sai the next morning. This leaves CR every 30 minutes, takes ninety minutes and costs only 29 Baht (sao-gao jao!). The seats are small so if you have someone sat next to you and can’t spread your legs then you may or may not lose a testicle. Couple of police road-blocks along the way, just checking for illegal Burmese folk, you won’t even be looked at. This bus has no air-con but if it is before midday it won’t be too hot, plus you’ve got open windows so your silken locks may blow in the wind, while the sun warms your perverted face. It’s nice.

Once you reach Mae Sai jump on the back of a motorbike (30 Baht) to the border, have them stamp your passport out of Thailand, stroll across the bridge, pay 250 Baht (or 5USD) and get stamped into Burma, keep on strolling, drop down into the market, push your way through the beggars, buy bargain DVDs, drink iced chocolate, et-fucking-cetera (repeat to fade). Don’t buy a roti from the roti man; I hate that prick (long story). The guys selling porn also offer you girls, haven’t taken them up on the offer though.

Then collect your passport, leave Burma, re-enter Thailand and take the air-con bus (285 Baht) to Chiang Mai (four hours). Or if returning to CR either ride the 29 Baht bus, or, the same air-con bus that goes to CM (but passes though CR).

The nice comfortable air-con buses to Mae Sai and CR leave from CM a few times a day; always good to book a day ahead, the company is called Green Bus Thailand.

[Dinghy]

CB - "collect your passport"? you leave it at the border crossing???

[The Traveler]

Dinghy,

no need to leave your passport there, I even managed to cross that border with just a photocopy of my passport. They even stamped it :)

BTW, there is a nice golden Chedi worth looking at, also a small temple with a huge "holy" pig. Don't remember what was so special about that pig, maybe it was born with just three legs, no tail, different color or whatever. Best way to go around is to hire a rickshaw.

[Coma Boy]

Dinghy- You leave your passport in the small Burmese immigration office while you're roaming in Tachilek. They give you a ticket which Burmese soldiers will check before letting you proceed into town. Why the concern? You don't trust the Junta eh?

Traveler- You mean to say that both Thai and Burmese immigration officals let you leave/enter their countries with only a photocopy? Does that work at Don Muang, or just "walking" borders?

Oh, and officially you are meant to flash 10/20,000 THB (depending on which visa you hold) when re-entering Thailand. But unless you look smelly or poor, or do this same visa-run regularly, they rarely check. I take my BKK-Bank account book instead but have never been asked for it.

[RCA Knight]

Its actually pronounced TA-KI-LEI by most poeple. I had made the visa run about 10 times here and did some lady houses adventures. You hire a bike taxi and he will take you to all the lady houses.

I visited the baang puying or the lady houses a few times there and some cuties can be found. These girls live in the house so you can go almost any time of the day even in the morning. I did that one time went in at about 10 AM and the house mama just woke the girls up to show me.

The price is about 300-800 depend on the girl. The age range from 15-25 according to their look. But the downside is that the rooms are not very comfortable. I think some of rooms are the same rooms where girls sleep and live. And the bathroom also quite below standard. One place has running water somewhat yellowish. But girls are very friendly. Sevearl times the girls even washed my hair and massage my head and body and no-cover BJ and very good sex for all around 500 bahts.

If you like a girl and want to pound her across the border at Mae Sai in your own comfortable hotel room, they will come over and see you there. I book several times girls in Tachiley and have them come over the border (or sneak over) later, I remembered I paid about 1000-1500 for ST and 1800 to 2000 for all nighter. I am making my visa runs recently thru Donok Changloon last few runs and may do the Mae Sai-Tachiley next run. And visit the lady houses in Tachiley to see if any new talents.

[Dinghy]

CB - more a matter of what time they close and the like. I just don't want to be separated from the passport (noids always come in pairs) but if that's the drill then so be it.

[Coma Boy]

Both the Thai and Burmese immigration offices close at 5pm, but you're not allowed to stay in Tachilek after 5pm anyway.

They only grant a one-day entry visa, and there are plenty of armed soldiers ready to enforce this if necessary.

[The Traveler]

Traveler- You mean to say that both Thai and Burmese immigration officals let you leave/enter their countries with only a photocopy? Does that work at Don Muang, or just "walking" borders?

Coma Boy,

yes, without any prob, but that was several years ago (no Thaksin in sight) and my Thai GF who became my wife later on had to deposit her ID at the small Thai immigration office. I don't remember any Burmese immigration but there probably was one.

Guess they were very relaxed since I didn't look smelly or poor and obviously wasn't on a visa run, just sightseeing for a day. Might give it a try again on my next trip and will report about it.

We took a rikschaw and went around sightseeing, a bit shopping at the market but nothing really worth to buy since I don't smoke and don't drink alcohol. The rest was crap. The market at Aranyaprathet is much better.

I have severe doubts that immigration at Don Muang will handle it the same way or in short "no way". Nowadays they even go crazy if you have an overstay which wasn't much of a prob a couple of years back. Back then you had to pay 200 baht for each day of overstay, no matter how many but on my last trip I saw a guy having big probs with immigration for just 10 days of overstay. He didn't looked like a biz traveller of course :)

[Coma Boy]

Its actually pronounced TA-KI-LEI by most people. You're correct but the Burmese romanise it as Tachileik, despite its pronunciation.

[Red Cork]

anyone have info about koh chang?
Is there a small or any bar/girl scene?
how about renting nice little bungalows on the beach?
not into backpack special, but a bit more luxury like hot and cold water and air/con.

[Coma Boy]

Anyone have info about Koh Chang?
Is there a small or any bar/girl scene?
How about renting nice little bungalows on the beach?
Not into backpack special, but a bit more luxury like hot and cold water and air/con.Not really a BG scene, you'll have to grab a Thai tourist, a local or, dare I say it, a white girl. The sluttiest girls there are of course the Farang chicks.

Plenty of nice up-market beach bungalow resorts- aircon, hot water, even TV.

Most backpackers can't afford to stay there long-term so most folk are tourists or flashpackers.

[Red Cork]

Thanks Coma Boy , I have been south of there to koh kut a few years ago. it is very remote but a bit too backpackerish for me. So when i go to koh chang i will bring my own. i hope it is not developing into another koh samui. so i will assume you can find a nice beach bungalow for 20$@night?

[Coma Boy]

20 USD shouldn't be a problem, I think prices range from about 400-4000 Baht. For air-con I expect you'll have to pay at least 1000 Baht.

Haven't been there for ages though.

[The Traveler]

anyone have info about koh chang?
Is there a small or any bar/girl scene?
how about renting nice little bungalows on the beach?
not into backpack special, but a bit more luxury like hot and cold water and air/con.
Red Cork,

there are a few bars but you can't call it a scene. Better bring a girl with you.
I have a friend who lives there and actually owns a resort. New nice rooms/bungalows with aircon, fridge, cable tv, room safe and balcony close to the beach for about 800 per day. If you are interested I will forward his contact info to you.

[Latrell2]

I have visited Koh chang for 4 days back in April and I must say I was not too impressed.

I arrived on the first day of Songkran on White Sand Beach without having booked an hotel/bungalow as I thought I could easily find one. Most of them were actually fully booked or quoting extravagant prices (2000 THB upwards
). After getting tired walking from reception to reception, I finally settled willy-nilly for a "spare" room behind the counter at the otherwise fully booked YAKA BUNGALOWs which had no air-con and of very poor quality for 500THB, leaving me fighting mosquitos all night.

During the day, I booked a snorkeling daytrip to the Koh chang national maritime park. Unfortunately, it was the thai school-holidays at the same time and the best comparison I can think of to describe the snorkeling scene on the corails is Omaha Beach on D-Day 1945. There were litterally dozens of tour-boats offloading hundreds of thai holiday-makers equipped with their snorkeling gear, making the corail as busy as sukhumvit road! And the boats were all moving in a synchronous way from spot to spot, so it was a similar scene all day long ...

For the evenings, I knew Koh Chang was not a nightlife spot like Patong beach in Phuket but after a few days spend alone, this place starts really boring you to death. I was approached once at the beach when sitting in front of the only busy bar on white Sand Beach (can't remember the name, it has live-music every night) but did not like the girl. The worst is that after 2 days, I started recognising the other farangs at this bar, as it was the only option for entertainment (besides Internet coffees) and everyone went there each night, including the old lady who sold me the day-trip...
I decided to cut my stay short and go back to BKK.

Latrell

[Coma Boy]

I have visited Koh chang for 4 days back in April and I must say I was not too impressed... etc. etc.What do you expect? Any holiday destination will be fully booked and busy during the New Year holidays. If you'd had the sense to book ahead during the busiest time of year, and taken a girl, then you would have probably had a great time.

It is meant to be a peaceful place to relax after time in other areas. Thailand doesn't have any nice beaches with hookers, it always seems to be one or the other.

[Fred Gold]

I'm looking for info on going to Nong Khai, any 'best' place to stay for hobbying? Should I first bring a friend? Any suggestions apppreciated!

Thx,

Fred

[Freeler]

Well,

Nong Khai is well and truly documented, mainly by the Skinless Domino one and myself. To RTFF is the obvious answer to your question, Mr. Fred gold!

Domino talks about BeachRoad price levels on the Pattaya pages. Let me just minddig for some other area prices...
After a two hour long session with my fav Pilok mature t&a, I couldn't help seeing her think - looking at the ceiling, grind, grind. So I asked the lady what she was thinking about. She said: 'I think today maybe B300, no?' Correct. No! B200, as usual anywhere up country. She came back for sucking and fucking on three more days. No need to fork out B300 at all.

[JuiceSpike]

The Thai government has decided to step up its fight against the insurgency in the Muslim south of the country with an unusual weapon - cable television.

The interior minister announced that cable TV would be installed in teashops across the south.

The hope is that it will distract young Muslim men from joining the insurgency.

The conflict with government forces has claimed more than 800 lives in the past 18 months.

The Thai government is at a loss over what to do with its troubled southern provinces.

It has tried appealing for peace, at one point dropping thousands of folded paper birds over the area.

It has tried being tough - nearly 200 Muslim men died at the hands of the army last year.

Last month it imposed emergency rule there. BBC

(But will it work? Now the bad guys get a break with a game on the tele then go back to being bad guys...Only in Thailand.)

juice

[That Asshole]

Udon Thani, capital of Isaan

Bear in mind that this is a HUGE city. Perhaps the most accessible of the entertainment areas for falang is Adulyadet Road which is a crossroad of Silpakorn St. (the road running out to the train station and night markets). There are many karaokes, all night bars on Adulyadet Rd itself, and a number of short time brothels on sidestreets such as soi6, 7 and 8.

Falangs are generally welcome in these brothels. You can 'take-away' or they have (grotty) on-site rooms for B100/hr. Expect to pay B500 for the deed itself. You pay up-front to the papasan. You negotiate with him. But if you go with a tuk-tuk the price is very firm.

I presume out of your B500, 100 goes as tip for the driver, 100 to the papa and the remaining 300 is shared between the house and the girl. Locals wouldn't likely pay more than B300. But 500 is still a good price (about $12.50). Also you might consider giving B100 tip to the **** if you are thinking of repeat visits.

If you choose to fuck on-site, you will also need transport back to your hotel. If you are staying in the city area a tuk-tuk will happily take you there and will wait for you for B100 (of course he will also get his cut from the house, that's why he is so happy). Total damage for the hour: B500+100room+100tip girl+100driver=B800max.($20)

What to expect:
Afraid not at all, this is a very safe area. The people are friendly.

As you pull into the little side-street, the papasan will come out to greet you, usually with a big wide smile, sometimes even a handshake. You will feel very welcomed from the first moment. You will be led into a semi-dark room, but with still enough light to make your choice. There might be a few thai men drinking at a table or two but they won't pay attention to you.

You might want to smile and say a "Savat Dee Krup" greeting anyway just to show that you are not a fucked-up dickhead falang. You will be invited to sit down on a chair, will be informed (in good english) about the prices and given the choice of a dozen or so girls sitting around in ordinary streetclothes.

I think basically you can pick anyone but you might be better off with one that smiles at you. There are no world class beauties here, just cute little fucking machines. Many of the girls although small but can be quite attractive, ages from 18-25. Some might even be able to speak a few words of english, like "What's your name? etc., but don't count on it.

Just smile and you will be allright. Or even speak your own language. Still better than silence. She will just politely giggle anyway. And you will feel like a hero because you are so funny and 'successful with women'. These cunts come from great poverty and are not spoilt yet. They will treat you right.

Once you pick a ****, pay your 500+100 if you use their room (the girls actually sleep there). Then she will lead you a few steps down the street to another house where the rooms are. You will both undress in a VERY basic little room (that might even have aircon though!).

These rooms are shitty, they change sheets possibly weekly (if at all!) but still a world above in luxury from the 'fucking boxes' of Cambodia. So if you have tried those, here you will feel very cosy and pampered. You will be given a grotty towel (you might consider bringing your own!) then you go to a separate room to have a good scoop-wash from a basin. It can even be fun splashing around with the naked little monkey (or two?). For added excitement there might even be a wastebasket FULL of bloodied sanitary pads in the corner with a few pieces of shitty toilet paper.

Then you cover in your towels and march back to your room with mattress on the floor. From there on its up to the two of you. Some suck some not, some suck with rubber, some fuck with rubber, others without. You might want to fix these details with papa beforehand or just take it as a box of chocolates and see what you get.

Many of the cunts even come from Lao so the papasans really don't give a shit about them. Yes, you have more chance to fuck a Lao **** here than in Laos!

Anyway. You will have about an hour but they won't hurry you. Then you might want to give a little tip (worth more than any kind words). Even if you behave like an asshole but you tip at the end, you will be allright. "Feminism" luckily is still a thousand miles from here. Here money talks. (And shit walks, but where doesn't?)

Your driver will wait for you outside. You pay him the total B100 when he drops you off at your hotel.

Otherwise, if you are keen on meeting spoiled women who speak english, farang-oriented bars congregate around the CharoenSri shopping centre. There you pay the barfine and the scene is the usual chit-chat Pattaya style. Most of the expats who frequent these bars are either ugly, sick or fat or all of the above. So why would you mix with them, unless of course you also fit the description and might find some company.

There are also a couple of soapie massage parlours as in any large city, with similar prices as elsewhere.

If you get hungry: there is the most unbelievable food market between the CharoengSri S/C and the train station. It equals to an orgasm just to wander around the foodstalls. Will take you hours to see it all. The hard thing is to choose. You will eat well for less than $2.

As usual in this city, everyone is very nice, smily and chatty with falangs. I suspect the reason for this might be the "City Spirit" that lives in the City Pillar near the Nong Prajak lake. As every city in this country, Udon also has a protecting deity who seems to like 'falang' for one reason or another. This of course reflects on the general population as well. Be assured that just because you cannot see a spirit it is still a very real being as any Thai can tell you. This is serious stuff.

Other cities like Pittsanulok have something against westerners. Chiang Mai is not very nice either. In fact I think Udon is more fun than Chiang Mai, any day. Well, as long as the Spirit still likes us. So please behave well and be respectful.

[Freeler]

Alexander,

Thanks for a great report on UT. Finally, I would say.
However, "Other cities like Pitsanulok have something against westerners" has me a little puzzled. Perhaps you mean the LP crowd, who come to Pilok and ChiangMai when they do their compulsary tour to the North?
Fact is, you won't see them in UT!

[Mi Foot]

I am heading to Mae Sot area (far west about 400 Km north of BBK) in late September and am desperate to find any current info on the area. I know a little about the area and will be there for about 4 days to do a photo shoot for a local client and realy want something to do at night better than editting the days work.

Man it was hard to get fligths from BBK to Mae Sot booked from Oz, every time I found a posability it failed. Finally was able to book Phuket Air via Thai they only changed the system a few days ago.

The web id full of travel and NGO crap about the area and no relivant info on massage or brothels that I know must be there, after all its a boarder town full of Burmise factory girls looking for that little extra.

Regards Mi Foot. Where is it now, it was there last night

[Dinghy]

PHUKET AIR?? You DO like to live dangerously don't you? You DO understand that they have been banned from flying in most of EUROPE???

Alexander - as in many places it "chewey ta khun pood Thai dai nit noi" helps if you can speak some Thai. Most "coldness" towards farang is a result of LANGUAGE, not UNFRIENDLYNESS.

[Coma Boy]

"Chewey ta khun pood Thai dai nit noi" helps if you can speak some Thai.Dinghy, you can't translate directly from English to Thai as the structure is different. That sentence would be translated as "Tah poot Thai pen gor ja dee kwa".

[Dinghy]

interesting - "if speak thai is also will better" - interesting construction - so not "ja ben " for will be. Of course, I still assert that even TRYING to pood thai is worthwhile.

[That Asshole]

A couple of nights in Ubon can be quite bearable...

The tuk-tuk driver promised poozzy for 3-400 B/hr, young beautiful poontang, he said. Had to give it a go. He also said it was a long way, slapping his gas tank so the taxi fare would be 60B one way/120B return.

Don't believe a word they say.

We were there in less than 2 minutes.

Of course, another so called "Karaoke" joint. Not much singing went on though. The cunts sitting outside (about a dozen of them) in front of the building, polishing their nails, playing with their handphones, all the usual and very useful female activities. Many looked quite allright. Not supermodels but reasonably cute and doable looking at least 3 or 4 of them.

A young boy around 20 seemed to be the boss in charge. The two of us moved behind a darkened glass panel. We could see the meat sitting outside but they couldn't see us.

He started to explain that the cost of ST was B500 for all the cunts. I didn't hesitate to remind him that the driver promised B3-400. Then suddenly the prices came down to B400 for all but the two cutest that stayed 500.

I asked about the B300 ones that the driver promised then he hesitantly pointed out a couple of older ones (about 25-28?)that could be had for 300.

I inquired if there were any without kids (and the signs of having them, etc). He honestly admitted that all were mamas but pointed to one B400 girl that didn't have stretchmarks.

Plus there was one girl for B500, without kids but she was, hm..... still "chronologically challenged" by one year (if you know what I mean). Thai men don't give a fuck they root it just as good but I suspected a possible trap for a farang so declined.

Then just to be sure, I asked about how long the clock runs for this price and he said 30 minutes. As the driver before promised one hour it was just to much fucking up and BS. 30 minutes is more than enough for a fuck but there was just too much mucking around so I thanked him, called my driver and left.

However, for 120 baht taxi fare (the price of a dink in a gogo bar) I still had a good time being there. It was an interesting and educational experience.We were trading in all these cunts as if they were some merchandise, product, cattle, sheep, some bags of offal or packs of chewing gum.

At no point in the negotiation were they personally involved. He was offering them for sale like bags of shit and I was there to buy them by the kilo. It was great! Could we do this in Helsinki, Paris, London please?

It was most amazingly contrasting with the presently so popularised image of independent, liberated western women. None of those present at that joint. If you want an egotrip check out this place. You can have an instanteous orgasm just by being there.

The driver looked obviously disappointed though, loosing his commission on the fuck.

Then he became inventive and promised:

a/ to go another place like this for same price
b/ go to a massage-boomboom place for B1000/2hrs
c/ go to a go-go bar (for $$$????)

Option c/ seemed interesting enough (gogo in Ubon??) but eventually I got it out of him that all other customers will most likely be Thai men. I doubted the place would be too welcoming to farang.

Plus with all these options the fare started running into the hundreds of bahts so I just pulled the plug. Go home and sleep. It took a while to convince him but he gave up eventually offering more meat and he dropped off the cargo back at the hotel.

Nevertheless, all these options might be worth more investigation on another trip.

Ubon is a quite nice town, there are lots of hotels and restaurants and it is reasonable idea to spend a couple of nights there.

Local minibus fares are still just 7B for any distance. From either the train or bus station 'line 2' will take you to town centre. A tuk-tuk would cost lots more.

[That Asshole]

Mae Sai -Burmese border

I couldn't find the Burmese joints. "Next to the Burmese checkpoint on the right hand side". Did that mean the "burmese side"? Because on the Thai side there is only Thai checkpoint. And I was too shy to ask the taxis.

Anyway, watching the border traffic from the "Viewpoint" was fun enough. Those burmese definitely look malnutritioned, sickly, black and they are persistent beggars. Amazingly, living only a few metres away and yet so many shades darker than the Thais.

At 6 o'clock when the border closes you can observe all the black burmese in rags going back home and the white, well dressed thais returning from Burma. I thought that if the hookers are like those average burmese then I wouldn't really want to do them anyway, not even for 300B, or even free.

Looking down from that viewpoint it makes you wonder who owns those 40 million slaves up north. If they just make 1cent ($0.01) profit on each one per day (which they possibly would) then it still adds up to a tidy sum at the end of the year. Because there must be markets where whole countries are traded like oranges and apples just we don't hear about those ('coz we are not meant to). The owners of the Thais do even better. This country is a money-making machine.

[Domino]

Alexander: Like Freeler, I enjoyed your excellent Udon post.
To skank in Mae Sai:
Walking from a southerly direction (eg from Chiangrai ) along the main drag/street of Mae Sai , Phaholyothin Road , (No.1 on the attached map) , towards bridge and Burmese border, you enter the laneway before the 'river' road. This same laneway houses Wang Thong Hotel (No.2 on the attached map). It is on the same side but before the cement 'Myanmar Border' sign. You have gone too far , if you are at that spot. So back to the laneway. Continue on down this laneway/soi until you come to a T intersection , that is you can not go any further , and turn left until you come to another T intersection , turn right and there should be a place (No.5) on your left , further up at the crossroads (see Map) you'll find No's 6 , 7 and 8 on the attached map. There is an enchaged Buddhist Shrine in this area.

The skanks are there 24/7 ish. If you like cute little piglets, then they are for you. The guess house places are Lonely Planet type shit holes, some for 100 baht a piece but the local jail might be more upmarket. If you go back there, just walk around slowly and you will find the skanks.

As regards Ubon, there are, as Skinless reported, some mid level brothels around the main hotel where the Khmer Rouge leaders used to hang out, including a fishbowl in it. The testicle massage is also available there. Skinless reckons the best place for a cheap night time fuck might be around the relatively deserted (at night) railway station. When he passed through very early in the morning, he noticed furtive activity and extrapolating from Buriram and Si Saket.......

Anyway, a belated welcome to the elite Starship Enterprise section of Thai mongering.

[Ezy Dundee]

Just came back from short trip to Betong and it seems that this little town hasnt much to offer except for WL. There are two discos which blasts their music so loud that, you think you'll go deaf after half hour.

Overall the place is quiet during the day and during weekdays. It becomes a little busier during weekends especially during the nite.

[Freeler]

Alexander,

"From either the train or bus station 'line 2' will take you to town centre. A tuk-tuk would cost lots more."

O so true! That songthaew is the best public transport invention in the Kingdom. No other town has anything like it.

[Gaolei]

Help, I am trapped in Chon Buri with nothing to do. Anyone know of any good places to visit? Any bars? anything?

[White Monkey]

Chonburi is a big province mate, where are you?

As always there are "ap ob nuats" around I am sure.


Help, I am trapped in Chon Buri with nothing to do. Anyone know of any good places to visit? Any bars? anything?

[Member #3123]

Any pointers where to find some fun on this island?

[Gaolei]

Chonburi is a big province mate, where are you?

As always there are "ap ob nuats" around I am sure.

I am in the city of chonburi.

[Concarne]

Any pointers where to find some fun on this island?Not a problem to find fun there. I was there in the off season and there was enough activity at the budding beer bars to keep you busy for a few days. Some cuties too.

I also found out that some chicks from the mainland come over on the weekends to make some extra cash. When I was there on a Friday night this lady from Bangkok (a receptionist at a major hotel) showed up. Biggest tits I have ever seen on a thai chick, unfortunately I was already spoken for for the night.

Prices are Pattaya like, 1000 baht LT. Barfine 200 or 300.

There was also a disco farther south from the beer bar area but did not check it out.

[Coma Boy]

What's the fastest/best way to travel from Trat to BKK?

[Terry Terrier]

www.bangkokair.com

"Thailand's boutique airline." And very nice they are too.

[Coma Boy]

Thanks Terry (and Freeler for the PMs), but annoyingly the inquiring party doesn't wish to fly.

6+ hours on the bus- nasty- how often do the buses run? My friends reach Trat at an odd time and wish to reach BKK fast.

How long would a taxi take?

[White Monkey]

Driving would take between about four hours. If you take a taxi it would cost about 3,000 to 3,500 baht I reckon. Petrol costs are on the rise so this is a guestimate.

You'd be better of renting a mini van service (depending upon how many are in the group). Should run about the same price as a taxi and more comfy.


Thanks Terry (and Freeler for the PMs), but annoyingly the inquiring party doesn't wish to fly.

6+ hours on the bus- nasty- how often do the buses run? My friends reach Trat at an odd time and wish to reach BKK fast.

How long would a taxi take?

[Coma Boy]

Thanks, perfect, that's all I need to know.

[Dinghy]

morchit to trat express bus also avail - not much slower than minivan

(I did trat to chantaburi last PM - was about 2x as fast as slow bus)

Snooky to chantaburi was 9 hours total (boat - mini- big bus)

[Fred Gold]

I'm planning on going to Sukhothai and Nong Khai. I understand that there is little action in Nong Khai, but does anyone have info on Sukhothai? Any suggestiins as to where to stay and where to go playing?

Thanks

Fred

[RCA Knight]

this border town is active with visa runners and travelers to go into laos. the night action here has 2 types. there are some karaoke pick up joints rep001tered around town and many girls are from across the border. i once picked up a girl from a karaoke joint for all night for 1500. the quality overall was bit below average compared to udon or bangkok.

then there are also lots of lady houses around town. i hired a motorbike boy and took me to about 5-6 places and some houses had more than 15 girls and mostly of lao origins. [deleted by admin] but i overall most these girls look kind of sad and unhappy and dressed poorly. so i did not get interested in them. also the rooms that they provide for sex are all very dirty that most of us foriegners may not bear it. these lady houses are mostly for thai men for cheap screw.

editor's note: this report was edited to removal references to **** persons.

i am aware that the vast majority of references to **** girls are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentialy pickup an **** girls, the potential dangers of being caught with **** girls, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterperated, and without starting flame wars.

anyway, to avoid delays in future reports, please do not post references to **** persons in the forum. thanks!

[DownTowner]

Okay, so not much of scene for mongers in Khon Kaen, but should you find yourself there I highly recommend hunting at the discos, especially those at the Novotel and Charoen Thani hotels.

Plenty of get-able girls at those places; freelancers, opportunist-freelancers, and just girls wanting to have fun.

For students and other younger-chicks check out the Times Square bars.

Every hotel I have ever stayed at in Khon Kaen has been guest-friendly.

Speaking good Thai or Issan is extremely useful in Khon Kaen.

Just came back From Khon Kaen On the 10th. I was there to visit my online girlfriend so I did not go mongering. I stayed at the Khon Kaen Hotel and it had a night club in the lobby where the girls would sit in chairs by the door and wait for someone to invite them in. Kind of looked like a "cab stand". Saw many Farang's with young and beautiful Thai Girls in the halls of the hotel.
After dark there are many places to find a lady. Just ask any Tuk Tuk driver for a lady and for 40 bath they will take you to the go go bars. I went to the Charvs? (pic) and they have many girls around 19- 25yr in club. At about 10:00pm the dancers appear and start dancing on little raised stages ,Wow hot looking ladies all. The reg. bar girls looked geat, Just like any hot collage girls. But the main dancers were knock outs. I was there with three "strait" girls but they told me you can have any reg. girls for 1000 bath and the main dancers for about 5000 bath. I know you can find better deals but this in what I was told. Khon Kaen was a great place, many people speak english and the girls are everywhere. Thai ladies all wanted to rub my big belly. It is a heaven for fat guys. This town is perfictly save to wander and explore.

[Chazzman]

Greetings fellow Travelers,

Does anyone have any information on the girlie scene in Hua Hin? I have 5 days to spend on a beach in Thailand and I've been everywhere else already. I don't need the crowds and mass commercialism. Just a beautiful beach, some restaurants and bars, and a decent selection of young, beautiful Thai girls for rent.

Thanks.

CM

[Freeler]

Chazzman,

Try the search button and type 'hua hin', but you won't find much because there isn't a big scene in Hua Hin.

[Coma Boy]

Chazzman-

http://www.huahinafterdark.com/bars.htm

[Intransit]

During a visit to Koh Tao in early October, I saw that some of the girls hanging out at various open-air bars had a distinct bar girl look and manner about them. The island, known as a backpacker haven, is slowly becoming more and more upscale, and so demand for such services could be on the rise. Anyone have more information?

[Bircow]

HHAD.com don't have a girlssection on their board. It's their policy, as fare as I know.

[Bircow]

Have to correct - sorry

The people from HHAD.com actually in the meen time changes their mind. Now theres a girli'section on the board. So far witout any 'reel' content, of course.

[Horatio]

Can a farang easily find pay for play activities in Thailand no matter what part of Thailand they are in? Does rural Thailand have the same type of opportunities as metropolitan Thailand only on a smaller scale? I seem to remember reading that a white westerner would radically stand out in some parts of Thailand, but I have a hard time believing that is still the case in this day and age of easy travel. Are there very many Thais who have not visited the big cities of Thailand?

I have been to Pattaya and am thinking about a few months visit to rural Thailand. I want to experience something very different from where I am now (central U.S.), but not so different that I would have a hard time coping.

Thanks for any info.
Regards Horatio

[Coma Boy]

There is P4P everywhere, and you'll be fine wherever you go in LOS.

Your biggest problems will just be language, and occassional daytime boredom.

[The Traveler]

Horatio,

what do you exactly mean by "rural Thailand" ?

If you are talking about cities in Isaan or anywhere else you shouldn't have a problem. But the scene mainly consist of MPs, karaokes and coffee shops with singers and hostesses, no open bar scene except in the main tourist areas like Chiang Mai, HuaHin and so on.

Even in smaller towns like Prachinburi, Kabinburi, Sa Kaeo, Prachuap Kirikhan and so on you will find company. It might be less obvious if you don't know what to look for. Many of those places have these colored "christmas tree" lights. This is always a good guideline for a potential P4P place.

Talking Thai is of course a great advantage at these venues.

But if you mean a small village in the middle of the rice fields like "Ban XYZ" - which is rural Thailand for me - than you won't find anything.

In short, any place that is at least an "Amphoe" might have a venue with providers. Smaller places that only have the status of a "Tambon" or just "Moo Ban" most likely won't fit your needs.

[Forever69]

From my experience you can find a lot of p4p everywhere outside little villages etc. in form of karaokes you will recognize by the coulorful flourescent lighting. But as professional as these girls are they do not usually have any falang clientele and it will be up to the wayward traveler to bridge the gap. They are willing to help though.

[RCA Knight]

I am back in Thailand after few weeks hunting with my cousin in Brasil. I will get some stories organized and post them in Brazil forum. Okay back in Thailand. A very close Singapore friend told me he knows how to get beautiful Lao girls. He said he knows a Lao guy who is a teacher in college and he can get very nice Lao student girl for him and invited me to go with him this time. I was quite suspicious but my Singapore friend said he went to see his Lao friend 2 times already and this guy really introduced him very cute student girls each time.

Okay we flyed Nok Air to Udon and get the airport shuttle to Nong Khai. His Lao friend is a teacher in a college in Vientiane. I guess he is doing some more extra job to make extra cash since the teachers there make less than 50 USD a month. My Singapore friend told me the deal is that we go to Vientiane first and his friend will arrange several college cuties for us to see and we picked one or two depends how we like them and go back to Nong Khai to spend a lusty weekend together. Sounds very good and I was still a little suspicious wether they are really college cuties.

WE crossed the Friendship bridge get the visa on arrival then get a taxi into Vientiane. We went to get some food at a restaurant near the fountain and his friend came joined us. He told me he has 4 nice cutie school girls and he will invite them for dinner. He told us they are really college girls, 2 in his college and other 2 from another school. And said they like to make some money to go thru college, and 2 of them have not worked in this field before. And another 2 have done this only 1 or 2 times that he introduced to his other friends from abroad. So he said basically all good unpolluted girls.

About 7 PM they came. And I was pretty surprised by the level. All white skin and slender nice body and do not looked like any typical workers at all. One of them can be considered very beatiful and in Thailand she will be the high so Chinese Thai look. The Lao friend asked us if we want take all four to Thailand for a weekend tommorrow. We really think hard of what to do and discussed with my Singapore pal. I asked the Lao friend if they know what they will be doing if we all go together. He said they know and maybe a little shy but will slowly open up.

We were thinking take all four and have a little orgy or at least switching. But we think these school cuties may not cooperate too well, because they are basically like amatures. So we decided to take one each this time for 2 days and send 2 back home and if possible have the other 2 come over to Nong Khai and stay with us for another 2 days. They discussed with the teacher and then seem no problem at all. The Lao friend said no problem with school and family because their parents all in upcountry Laos. So that was our schedule. An then the cost. We would pay to each girl 5000 bahts for 2 nights stay with us. Pay extra 1000 tip if we switch partners. And give the Lao teacher friend 1000 bahts for each girl for intro fees, so 4000 bahts to him. Without him we would never get this kind of high level school girls. So we were willing to give him 4000 bahts.

Okay we checked in Hotel Lanexang for the night. These girls would never enter a hotel in Laos so we have to go back to Thai side to enjoy the fun. The night we went to some karaoke bars but decide to save the enegy for tommorrow. Did not get any lady this night.

Next day our sex holiday will begin. Went with 2 of them crossed border by international bus to Nong Khai. The Laos only need to make some border pass to go over to Nong Khai or Udon Thani. We stayed at the Royal Mekong 1200 bahts a night. I took the high so Chinese look first night. Her body was so milky white and really pink nipple. But the sex was quite reserved. She was quite shy and did not know how to do any oral. But it was quite satisfying to be with such a pretty girl. The next night we switched partner and this one was more fun. Very loud moaning sound and did a little tongue action for me.
Her pussy was so small that I used half of the KY gel. But I think she quite enjoyed it.

We sent them back after 2 nights paid them as we agreed 5000+1000 switch fee to each girl, and we waited for another 2 to arrived. The girls were really sad to leave and want us to come back again and asked for my e-mails. And waved at us from the bus until can no longer see us. The other 2 came later to Nong Khai and we went to eat and walked around and take it easy. The 2nd two had done this before so maybe will do a foursome. First night we did our own girl and then we later joked that we together do it again but the girls refused so we did not push.

The last night we switched partner again and then after we finished we went out to a bar restaurant to have some drinks. The girls drank some beer and started to open up more and we joked to them lets sleep together tonite and they did not really resist the idea. We went back all to my room and we started to make out to both of them. They were shy at first but after we inserted them they were very relaxed and let us do anything. We swithched in between changed condom and switched back. I then started to kiss the other one who was fuccking my friend while I was screwing my girl and I came. It was not a wild orgy but at least we succeed in doing 4some. I think next time we come again they will be more experienced.

The morning I told my girl to oral me as I taught her how to use her tongue. And I sqirted all over her face and it was funny she looked so innocent about what to do with it. I wiped for her and told her to washed it off. Later we sent these 2 back at bus station and they too really looked sad. I had to thank my Singapore pal of taking me to this trip. He went back to Singapore already and we are actually planning for the next trip to Nong Khai to meet the same four girls in Jan. Please do not PM me about the Lao teacher's contact info. As he many times remind me not to bring people who I don't know very well along to see him. So sorry I cannot give out his contact number. He may get in very deep shit trouble if someone report on him. He said he will do some more market research for some new products next time we go there. The money was well spent in this trip, very satisfying with the 4 school cuties.

[Frank Pole]

Horatio,

what do you exactly mean by "rural Thailand" ?

If you are talking about cities in Isaan or anywhere else you shouldn't have a problem. But the scene mainly consist of MPs, karaokes and coffee shops with singers and hostesses, no open bar scene except in the main tourist areas like Chiang Mai, HuaHin and so on.

Even in smaller towns like Prachinburi, Kabinburi, Sa Kaeo, Prachuap Kirikhan and so on you will find company. It might be less obvious if you don't know what to look for. Many of those places have these colored "christmas tree" lights. This is always a good guideline for a potential P4P place.

Talking Thai is of course a great advantage at these venues.

But if you mean a small village in the middle of the rice fields like "Ban XYZ" - which is rural Thailand for me - than you won't find anything.

In short, any place that is at least an "Amphoe" might have a venue with providers. Smaller places that only have the status of a "Tambon" or just "Moo Ban" most likely won't fit your needs.Funny, I was in Mae Sot a few years ago lookin for some ST and spent all day and half the night lookin for a candy store.(I don't ask tuk tuk or taxi drivers) The next day i hooked up with an american gem dealer and he looked at me awful funny when I told him their was no action in town. He said "Look for the single red light or christmas lights". That night me and my buddy headed out for night opps and sure enough P4P joints all over the place. We hit several. Going Rate was 800b for ST. They would not budge. If you are Thai it is 200-300b. I have used this detection method more than once when i have found myself in 'Rural Thailand'. Just open the door and ask "Bahn Sow?" Works Like a charm !;) P.S ...Just make sure it's not Christmas eve!

[Frank Pole]

If you are traveling to Mae Sai in search of the illusive Burmese piglett pussy, You might check out the Top North Hotel. Very clean and comfortable. Don't know if it is GF because we always went to ST hotel.

600b for 2 big beds. A/C, fridge, TV(only Chinese and Thai channels). No Safe. Right next to border crossing. I have uploaded a couple of pics.

Pole

[Last Peter Pan]

Hi There,

Hua Hin is quiet but here is plenty of action there, not as busy as your other well visited places but loads of girls and plenty bars.

Girls cost 200Bht bar fine and 1500 for all night

About 2-3 hours by cab or minibus (check out your travel agents in BK) and by minibus cost me 800 Bht in Oct 2005 bus has a/c and sits about 8 persons if full. A taxi from the airport is about 2000-2500 to get there

The place is well worth a visit

Regards L P P

[Cheongka]

Heard there is a new Disco in Danok? Any review? Thanks.

[Freeler]

Hua Hin Hotels

City Beach Resort 630 Baht First-Class
Hin Nam Sai Suay 1030 Baht Superior
Chom View Hotel and Resort 1530 Baht Superior
Hua Hin Bluewave 1600 Baht Superior
Tanawit Hua Hin Hotel and Condo 1620 Baht Superior
Hua Hin Grand Hotel and Plaza 1660 Baht Superior
Peony Hua Hin Hotel 1740 Baht Standard
Baan Rajdamnern Resort 2440 Baht Superior
Casa Del Mare 2510 Baht Deluxe
Baan Duangkaew Resort 3240 Baht Superior
Baan Talay Dao Resort 3360 Baht Superior
Kaban Tamor Resort 3480 Baht Superior
Privacy Beach Resort and Spa 3850 Baht Deluxe
S Mor Spa Village 4230 Baht Superior
Baan Bayan Hotel 4230 Baht Superior
Central Hua Hin Village 4990 Baht Deluxe
Wora Bura Resort & Spa 5170 Baht Deluxe
Hua Hin Marriott Resort and Spa 131 US$ First-Class
Hilton Hua Hin 5430 Baht First-Class
Anantara Resort and Spa 6080 Baht Deluxe
Hyatt Regency Hua Hin 161 US$ Deluxe
Sofitel Central Hua Hin 7190 Baht First-Class
Chiva-Som 331 US$ Deluxe

Google for pics and reservations...

PS:
For a second honeymoon, move on Krabi, Railay Beach, and book a room at the Rayavadee Resort. This will set you back about B25,000 a night.

PPS:
Rooms in Hua Hin, and Krabi, start from B150...

[Terry Terrier]

Further to Freeler's good info:

The Casa Del Mare is a small, low-rise, fairly new 4* boutique hotel. The rooms are superb - kitted out to a very high standard - and the swimming pool is good but it isn't cleaned frequently enough. The rather small restaurant is quite poor, including the free buffet breakfast. Staff are mostly friendly and helpful. This hotel is more than a stroll to the town centre, but the busy, adjacent main road is well-serviced by taxis of the two and four wheeled variety. The hotel is not GF, but I would give it a conditional thumbs-up as a place to take a BKK, Pattaya, etc friend for a trip (based mainly on the rooms and staff).

The Sofitel had some bad press on a competing message board.

The Hilton has the best disco in town (The Hua Hin Brewing Company), the best beer in town, which, as the name suggests, is brewed on-site (C'mon Dom, don't be jealous toward those of us with healthy livers!), the best house band in town (check out their phenomenal version of Blur's 'Song 2'), and a fucking glut of freelancers after the beer bars of Soi Bintabaht across the road close at around 12 o'clock.

[All About Bob]

I have been to Hua Hin a couple of times. First time i stayed at the Hilton, and i found it to be nothing special, and the food not great, so i would not recomend it, but the pool area is ok.

I would suggest the Fresh Inn hotel, which is opposite the Hilton, is only around 1500 per night, and actullay very good, staff are friendly and helpfull. Romms are new, with all mod cons, and totally girl friendly. I have all the detials PM if you need the address.

When i stayed a few months ago, the pool was not finsihed but it should be by now, if not just walk accross the road and use the one at the Hilton.

There are a coupld of good resteraunts around there on that street, the italian opposite the Hilton is good, and theres a german bakery, which sell decent bread and does a good breakfast, which is a little but futher along the street.

As far aas the top end, it has to be the Chivasom, we went for lunch and it looks great.

[Member #3399]

Thanks for the headsup Gentlemen. What about Golf courses, I know there are many, any good counsel and if any one will be in the area I will be looking to golf about half the times I will be telling my wife I am golfing and looking for a golf partner or 2 or 3. We will be there Feb 11 to 18th. I shoot about 95 with a couple of foot wedges.

I guess noon golf is to hot?? Therefore one needs to plan for the morning when most proper Bar staff are sleeping or still stupping, any strong leads or recommendations for a couple of highly trained proffesionals that can be hooked up in advance, ideally some bisexual ones.

008

[Member #3173]

Yes the new disco is called Paragon.Have not gone there yet despite going to Danok 4 times as it is a long walk from town.Will go there again this week and
have a look.Anyone want to join in?

[Coma Boy]

For a second honeymoon, move on Krabi, Railay Beach, and book a room at the Rayavadee Resort. This will set you back about B25,000 a night.I used to live on Railay, stayed at Rayavadee a few times, it's very fucking nice.

But for a lot less money go for the private beach houses called Lanka Daeng (aka Railay Beach Club). Lived in those houses for several months.

Haven't been down there for years but Railay used to be very fucking cool.

[Terry Terrier]

Canada 008,

I only played one round when I was in town, it was just too fuckin' hot.
The Royal course, at the back of the train station, is a hilly,well-maintained, mature (the oldest in Thailand, I believe) course. It's very convenient for the town centre. Green fee was about 1500bt, buggy and caddy a little extra. If the leather wedge is a shot in your repertoire, you will find yourself using it more than a coupla times on this track: All 18 holes are densely lined with mature trees.

[Freeler]

A quick guide to 'Backpackers in Thailand"

Go to:
http://variatee.vara.nl/daarvliegendepanters/playerpage.jsp

Go to 'KIES SNEL" and choose date;
Next, scroll down a little until you see:
"Hele aflevering"
And click: "bekijk uitzending"

When the show starts, drag along the timeline until you see those famous Thai scenes.

The backpackers are Dutch comedians who don't give a fuck.
It's in "English" and it's rediculous and there's a new show every week!

Have fun!

[Brymor]

Thought I would add my first report on the Thailand section. I have just returned from Chiang Rai and must say I found the previous reports very useful. I stayed at a new hotel or rather an upmarket guest house in the centre of town, across the road from the Wancome Hotel and right next to the night bazaar. What amazed me was that everything is much cheaper then Pattaya or Bangkok, except for the girls. The going rate here seems to be 3000 baht for long time and 1500 for a short time, which I think is excessive. I found no shortage of women despite what some other reports have said. However I do agree that Chiang Rai should not be a place to visit based on mongering. I found the collection of bars at the back of the Wangcome Hotel very accomodating, as were the few bars situated in a little alley of the bus station. I had a couple of girls from each place and found it a very good experience, though I do baulk at the prices they charge here. There is one bar in the little alleyway where they fix you up with college students though you normally need to book a day in advance. The girls are not pros but come and work to help ends meet and at those prices they shouldn't have any problems. I found a real cutie aged 20 at the back of the aforementioned Hotel who had never been with a customer before. I managed to persuade her after two nights and on the second night and she asked me how much I would give her. We settled on 2000 baht which I thought was cheap for an all nighter all things considered. She was extremely shy, very good looking and probably one of the best experiences I have had in Thailand. I told her before she went to sleep that I was leaving to catch an 8.15am flight back to Bangkok and that I would need more action in the morning. Come six o'clock she was as obliging and enthusiastic as ever and I would consider going back just to see her again. I tried a couple of massage parlours and though they don't do anything on the premises, I found most willing to do hotel visits were "boom boom" was promised from the start. The good thing with these parlours is that an oil massage costs 400 back at the hotel with short time for 1000. So in my books that is better since you are getting a good massage as well as short time. I did visit the small private road mentioned in a few previous reports and went into the Lobo bar. This was expensive for drinks and I had three different girls pushing for me to buy them drinks even afterI bought one of them a drink. When I asked about taking a girl back all I got was "Phum mai lou". I would not recomment this place. I checked ISG when I arrived in Chiang Rai to get the latest information but couldn't find any threads at all. I guess that will teach me to check the spelling in future and not spell Chiang Rai, Chang Rai. Took me awhile to work that one out but I blame the Singha. All in all I enjoyed my experience in Chiang Rai and felt totally safe no matter where I walked at night.

[Biz99]

Canada 008

There are several good courses in the area, in addition to the Royal Hua Hin course already mentioned.

Springfield is a Jack Nicklaus design, recently finished another 9 to give them 36. It would be the most expensive.

Equal in conditioning and design would be Majestic Creek and Imperial Lakeview - both of which have 27 holes and are very good tracks.

Next level down would be Palm Hills and Seoul Country club.

All of these are searchable, I think, but you can get a lot of info at thaigolfer.com and some other sites devoted to golf in the kingdom. Most places, with the exception of Royal Hua Hin, are going to require some transportation to get there. Many of the hotels have this set up for everyone, not only their guests. You will likely pay a premium if you go through a hotel, but there are other services on the main road that have packages to each of the courses each day.

I live here, so this time of year is actually the coolest for golf and is high season for the courses as well. We do play (and walk) during hot season, and that is grinding, but right now is not too bad.

[Coma Boy]

The going rate here seems to be 3000 baht for long time and 1500 for a short time, which I think is excessive.I think they saw you coming.

[Freeler]

Coma,

Some three years ago CR police took care of all the smaller brothels. Prices at 'private' house, already high, soared after that.
Looks like the scene still hasn't recovered.
But, CR is ok for hanging out some time.

[N Noraza]

Heard there is a new Disco in Danok? Any review? Thanks.Your are right about the new disco. Paragon and Hansa Palace. It is next to each other, esides Oliver Hotel. Paragon plays the "feng tau" songs. Hansa has sexy shows on the stage. Seems to be the most happening place at Danok and the favorite hangout now.

[Brymor]

I think they saw you coming.Coma Boy,

These are the prices that the girls expect and it was not a one off situation but the trend throughout Chiang Rai. I met with a few ex pats whilst in Chiang Rai and when I complained about the prices there (twice as expensive as Pattaya) they confirmed that it was normal.

[Coma Boy]

Strange, I've never come across higher prices there, and I've been there many times.

Perhaps I'm just lucky.

Or perhaps it's coz I speak Kam Muang.

[ThaiVisitor]

Thought I would add my first report on the Thailand section. I have just returned from Chiang Rai and must say I found the previous reports very useful. I stayed at a new hotel or rather an upmarket guest house in the centre of town, across the road from the Wancome Hotel and right next to the night bazaar. What amazed me was that everything is much cheaper then Pattaya or Bangkok, except for the girls. The going rate here seems to be 3000 baht for long time and 1500 for a short time, which I think is excessive. I All in all I enjoyed my experience in Chiang Rai and felt totally safe no matter where I walked at night.
Thanks for your FR and also glad that you enjoyed your experienced.

Despite whatever raids there are, the stretch of brothels along the old airport is still there for ST but it seemed more for locals as there were more "foreign girls" than thais like Burmese.

Also, the "farm" girls which the tuk tuk brough me charged me 2000 Baht for LT. I only went to one farm as I found my pick there from about 20 girls. She's a Northern Chinese (yunanese) and I find the price reasonable. I'm sure if I know the place myself, I should be able to get it cheaper as I guess the tuk tuk must have some commission but hey! what the heck so long as I find it worth it.

Cheers
Tee Vee

[Freeler]

***********,

"Despite whatever raids there are, the stretch of brothels along the old airport is still there for ST but it seemed more for locals as there were more "foreign girls" than thais like Burmese."

Those were gone after the raids... Now they're back? Time to visit, lah!
There was a 'barbershop', being a HY guy you get the meaning, on the right going towards the airstrip, which had a very pretty girl with huge fukken boobs to lure in the customers. She was the most expensive of the dozen or so girls inside: B400 for a ST. Others B200-300...

PS huge fukken means like E-cup and TF included:D. Oh my god, you can have it all on Saturday night:).

[Phantomtiger2]

***********,

"Despite whatever raids there are, the stretch of brothels along the old airport is still there for ST but it seemed more for locals as there were more "foreign girls" than thais like Burmese."

Those were gone after the raids... Now they're back? Time to visit, lah!
There was a 'barbershop', being a HY guy you get the meaning, on the right going towards the airstrip, which had a very pretty girl with huge fukken boobs to lure in the customers. She was the most expensive of the dozen or so girls inside: B400 for a ST. Others B200-300...

PS huge fukken means like E-cup and TF included:D. Oh my god, you can have it all on Saturday night:).


Too bad I didn't know about this area when I was there (but only stay for 1 nite) as nothing was worth staying longer for.
The price I was quoted by tuk tuk for LT was about 2500b/nite. Took me to about 2-3 places but nothing interested me.

PT

[Cheongka]

Your are right about the new disco. Paragon and Hansa Palace. It is next to each other, esides Oliver Hotel. Paragon plays the "feng tau" songs. Hansa has sexy shows on the stage. Seems to be the most happening place at Danok and the favorite hangout now.


Yeah. Went to paragon two weeks ago. Place is quite huge and the sounds system is very good. However, the girls quality is quite bad. Still prefer paragon in Hatyai. :)

Where is this Hansa Palace? I know about Spider and Sha La La which have sexy shows.....thanks

[Ditto88]

Heard that Danuk was very very happening so we had a short stopover at Danuk during my last trip in CNY, Went to a place called M & Y or MY. There were quite a few number of pretty Go Go dancers on the podium, totally nude too !!

Beers are at 100 baht per bottle ( Big Bottle ).

I must say that the scene in Danuk is definately much more happening than Hadyai although most discos play " Feng Tou " music which is unbearable...




Yeah. Went to paragon two weeks ago. Place is quite huge and the sounds system is very good. However, the girls quality is quite bad. Still prefer paragon in Hatyai. :)

Where is this Hansa Palace? I know about Spider and Sha La La which have sexy shows.....thanks

[RCA Knight]

I am always curious what is "feng tou" music?

[Member #3173]

I suppose that is music where you shake your head in line with the rhythm

[Ditto88]

Bro RCA Knight,

Opps..sorry man. Feng Tou = Shake Head in Cantonese.

It is a term generally used for people in Asia who gets high on the Ectasy pill and they shake their head to Canton Techno music. Very, very loud Bang, Bang, Bang base music and it is sometimes hilarious if you were to see the whole bunch of them shaking their heads from left to right rigourously for the whole night standing on the stage with their dark glasses and dyed hair.



I am always curious what is "feng tou" music?

[N Noraza]

Yeah. Went to paragon two weeks ago. Place is quite huge and the sounds system is very good. However, the girls quality is quite bad. Still prefer paragon in Hatyai. :)

Where is this Hansa Palace? I know about Spider and Sha La La which have sexy shows.....thanksHansa is next to Paragon. The same building, but the first entrance.

[Freeler]

Dance music,

You guys should stop braindamaging yourself!
Here's Tiesto, the best dj in the world:
http://www.tofk.elte.hu/~totha/download/files/0405_II/alk_rendsz/ppt_k/dj%20tiesto%20-%20in%20my%20memory.mp3

[Ditto88]

Freeler,

Ditto to that. You must be a Narci regular then.


Dance music,

You guys should stop braindamaging yourself!
Here's Tiesto, the best dj in the world:
http://www.tofk.elte.hu/~totha/download/files/0405_II/alk_rendsz/ppt_k/dj%20tiesto%20-%20in%20my%20memory.mp3

[Neekolas59]

Mortman,

I'm going up to Chiang Rai in early May.

Still deciding on a hotel.

Where did you stay?

Thanks,

Nick

[Member #3399]

Well here is a long awaited results of trying to get my Educated, Western White wife to perform threesomes with beautiful young Thai women.

Close but no cigar!

In fact and here is where you all get to laugh at my dumb ass, the remainder of my life (at least the part that will be spent with this women, which could be a short time given the following) will be really, really painful. Why is it that EWW Women are really bad at giving head but really good at giving headache?

Given that my wife and I spent 2.5 weeks in LOS it became apparent as to what I do when I go to LOS there as I am an abnormally horny pig dog and it is rather obvious. (Damn all you happy 50 year olds walking around with stunned looks of bliss holding hands with 45 kg Thai tigers) Why do the magazines on the Airplanes refer to Sukumvit as a Tourist attraction, it is only there for screwing?

Of course the suspicions led to accusation which led to a confession and my breaking the only real rule men have and need which is, Deny, Deny, Deny. In my sun addled brain I thought a confessing of the really fucking obvious was less of an insult that actually fucking around a little, I was wrong, again.

It is rather obvious as, I am a pig dog as she receives 95% of my absurd attentions however upon sober reflection it was silly to think that it would actually lead to a reward. Well close but no cigar. I blame the waitress you see.

Near the end of the trip we were in BKK and in Nana Plaza in the GoGos and trying to pick a mate, my wife, bless her almost horny heart was actually participating in the process (that was exciting I assure you) with her comments a very positive sign indeed, but then the waitress was slow, really slow with a round and the sobering process and questions on how to get to the room with new found friend were brought forth, Crap!

Now I am a skilled negotiator after all only 3 days before I had confessed to my sins and then maneuvered her to the Bar but I could not close, forgetting my ABC’s. Leaving me only 1 more piece of advice to give, send the **** shopping and run, don’t walk to the Eden Club (ok 2 pieces of advice) and normal Western Woman will not participate in Thai woman threesomes, sad but true my friends. I hope that I have gained the respect of you all having bravely undertaken such a hopeless course of action so all may gain.

I am reminded of a Greek tragedy about a boy who flies to close to the sun, the sun of course represents 3 hours of blissful 3 way action, and gets BURNED and then the Lawyer is there to pick through the bones. So there laugh away, I am proud to say I tried and I failed, my momma didn’t raise no coward. It is far better to lie in the future and that is exactly what I plan to do a lot.

P.S. The trip to Eden was not great but suffice, there will be more trips.

008 out

[ThaiVisitor]

Just 4 or 5 days ago, there was a shooting case in the New Paragon in Danok. 2 dead, and 2 injured and now in hospital. Don't know who the shooter (s) are as still investigating. But those dead and injured are all females.

Imagine these are girls whom you have booked or whatever, itting in the same table as you.

Just to let fellow bros know and be careful whenever you are there as Danok is more "bo cheng hu" than other places in Thailand. Hey, it would really be disastrous to be shot as a bystander for other people's quarrel.

Cheers
Tee Vee

[1Ball]

Canada, I feel your pain. My hat is off to you. We all told you that you were fucking nuts, but you tried it anyway. Admitting your escapades must have been a tough one, and then you still brought her into a gogo. Gluton, aren't ya.

I hope she leaves you with enough cash, after her lawyer is done with you, so you can enjoy the LBFMs one last time before she has your dick removed and mounted, so she can keep it on her fireplace !

Good luck.

[Retired Army]

What in hell ever possessed you to bring your EWW to Thailand? That is the last thing you should do. Friends of mine who work here and have wifes back in the States make arrangements to meet them in exotic locations other than Thailand. I didn't take the advice and brought my EWW here for the longest and worst two weeks of my life. But the good thing is that I now have a wonderful Thai wife.

[Billy Baht]

P.S. The trip to Eden was not great but suffice, there will be more trips.008 out008,

No guts - no glory, LOL! Good try buddy..

Billy Baht

[Freeler]

Hi,

I was supposed to write lengthy reports about my current exploits in Thailand, but things went wrong and I didn't have time.
However, I did find this message in my pm-inbox:

'Sinambin Rd Brothels Gone

Sinambin Rd Brothels Chiangra are not back , have been gone for years. X 1 Garland only place there now. Info Feb 2006.'

I posted on the police raids on these brothels some years ago. They happened just after (hours after...) I visited the area.
Sinambin meaning Airport, it seems that the sender knows what he's talknig about.
Now, are these brothels gone or are they back?
Confirmation of either is welcome, thanks.

[Ploughman]

Just a tidbit or two on Ubon Ratchathani, the largest town in the southeast of Isaan (near the Lao and Cambodia borders). The Pathumrat Hotel's semi-famous Long Beach soapy massage place is still going, from noon to midnight daily. It's a fishbowl spot, not unlike ones in Bangkok. They wanted B1800 for one girl but would do two at B2600. I didn't like the cost vs. selection at the time I went, but YMMV.

The Krung Tong Hotel also has a similar place, only they have something like a "shower massage" and different tiers of girl costs (i.e. the "super star" bit) at B1500, 1800 and 2100 quoted. (I should mention I definitely didn't have a taxi take me there for commission). They didn't seem to want to come down from that, at least, not easily. Also a low selection that particular night, but YMMV.

You won't find much obvious sanuk in Ubon, i.e. go-gos, upstairs karaokes with girls hanging around outside, or that sort of thing. Not enough farangs. A local or a tuk-tuk driver (tuk-tuks are still the taxis there, and there are even bicycle pedicabs!) could probably take you somewhere, maybe a ranch-type setup or downscale karaoke. Your odds in discos and places like that are very low because the girl can be seen by friends and family and probably won't go with a foreigner like she might in Bangkok or Pattaya.

[Retired Army]

My wife wants me to go to Surin to check on her mother. There isn't any info in the forum , does anyone have anything they would like to add?

[Coma Boy]

My wife wants me to go to Surin to check on her mother. There isn't any info in the forum , does anyone have anything they would like to add?It's a nice, mellow part of the country, lots of Khmer folk. Not a lot going on, but nice place to spend time. The markets, especially the night-market are fun and delicious, and there always seem to be elephants roaming around.

Your wife's mother may well live out in the sticks anyway which'll make it pretty much the same as anywhere in rural Issan.

[The Traveler]

Retired Army,

what exactly are you interested in ?
Just have been in that area, been to Buriram, Surin, Kalasin and Yasothorn.

In case your have your own means of transportation you might want to visit places like Phanom Rung and Muang Tam (khmer ruines). You might also want to have a look at those elephant camps, where you can attend an elephant soccer match and the like. You could also drive down to or pass by Aran on your way to Buriram to visit the border market. Lots of very cheap clothes and some other stuff that you can buy as presents for the family. Will save you some bucks compared to BKK or the usual "Talat Nat".

I have attached a few pics of a decent hotel in Aran, the Aran Mermaid, in case you want to have a stop over. Price is 900b incl. breakfast AND dinner. Note the condoms on the pricelist.
There is another hotel up the highway, just 100m away from the Aran Mermaid. It's name is something like "Indochine Hotel". Haven't had a closer look at it, but looked quite ok to me.

As Coma already pointed out, the night-markets are nice and a good place to eat.
Even though mongering won't be on your list, it is possible. There are soapies and lots of cafes where you can pick girls (often the singers). Traditional massage is available as well, in case you might want to relax.

[The Traveler]

Retired Army,

even though most roads are in a good condition you should expect deep roadholes on some highways (usually 3 digits). Many smaller highways (2+3 digits) often have only one lane per direction, which can result in being unable to overtake a slow truck or pickup in case there is is a lot of traffic in your opposite direction. Therefore don't expect to being able to drive faster than 80km/h in average. Plan your trip accordingly, especially when you choose to drive to Buriram via Korat. Lots of serpentines on that way.

If you choose to drive via Korat - actually just Chokchai - why not visit Phimai north of Korat ?
You might also have a stopover in Korat, the Sima Thani is a nice hotel directly at the river (and highway) and easy to find.

Don't forget that buses usually give shit about you and overtake whenever they want, no matter if you are in their way or not (note where the fuel truck in front of me drives :()

The landscape is quite boring during hot season, brown flat land, a couple of cows and water buffalos that might run on the highway, so beware.

[The Traveler]

Retired Army,

here a few impressions from the Aran border market.
As already said, cheap clothes, stuff and some fruits avalable., not much dried seafood though (shrimps, squids, fish ...)

[The Traveler]

Retired Army,

don't know about your wife, but if her family are just poor farmers expect them to live in a place like that. If you can't stay there (I can) you better look for a hotel close by.

[The Traveler]

here a few pics of Phanum Rung,.

[The Traveler]

and a few impressions from Muang Tam

[The Traveler]

and finally Phimai as well, in case you might choose to detour there.
You might also want to have a look at The Mall in Korat, often some cute girls there, or the Korat Park to have a first hand look at those 200b-300b "beauties" Freeler used to advertise. But beware, taste differs.

[1Ball]

Does anyone have any information about kho Khao, or Phra Thong?
is there any kind of infrastruture there, other than a couple of resorts?

thanks

[Freeler]

1Ball,

Is this any help?
http://andaman-island-hopping.com/islands/phrathong.htm

Remember, google is our friend!

[1Ball]

1Ball,

Is this any help?
http://andaman-island-hopping.com/islands/phrathong.htm

Remember, google is our friend!
Thanks Freeler, but I saw that page a few days ago. Was hoping for some first hand experience.

[That Asshole]

NO-Hero policy! If you are a "shoot'em'up" type of HERO then maybe you are looking at the wrong story. Go and beg your girl-friend for a FREE fuck! I am not writing for HEROES, but for the old, fat, ugly, sick, underprivileged and mentally retarded. Those of us who choose to buy meat for cash, because that's our only option.

I would like to give all underprivileged men enough meat to fuck. What I mean to say is that you don't need to wank in front of your computer screen but you can get out and fuck meat even if you are NOT a fucking HERO!
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Fucking in Udon Thani, Northern Isaaan

One's first impression is that the place is rocking with farang. No, not just many farangs around but the place literally crawling with them. It wasn't like that a year ago. Soon it will be like a second Pattaya. The number of beer bars around Robinsons is also increasing every year.

If you sit down to eat alone somewhere in town, the locals immediately ask that "where is your darling?". My usual reply is that I have nothing against the idea just I haven't figured it out yet how will I pay: by the hour or on per fuck basis.

First of all some general information to find Udon Thani:

location
North east tip of Thailand. About 10 hours from Bangkok and only 1 hour bus ride from the Laos border (see separate Laos posting).

getting there
1. Flying is possible from Bangkok (for rich guys, I know there are many), as there is an airport near Udon town centre.

2. Overnight train from Hualampong station, Bangkok. Second class aircon sleeper costs around 7-800 B. It's quite comfortable and clean usually. There are also daytime trains but as the trip takes approx. 12 hours it's not that much fun. There is an advance reservation office at Hualampong as sleepers must be reserved, the earlier the better. If you change your mind, you can get a refund minus some admin fees.

3. Overnight bus from Bangkok. Even the VIP 24 seat is much less comfortable than the train so really can't recommend it.

4. Possibly the best option is to break the bus trip into two segments, first day Bangkok-Khorat, next day Khorat-Udon. On both routes there are aircon buses running every 20 minutes between 5am and 8pm. this makes for two comfortable 4-5 hour trips. The overnight stop in Khorat can also be fun as there is a nice night market, some bars, street hookers and massage parlours.

The Northern/Northeastern Bus Terminal of Bangkok (Mo Chit 2):
This is where your bus to either Khorat, Udon or all N/NE destinations will depart from. It's a huge terminal, rather like an airport with countless departure gates, etc. But also it is very organized like an airport so easy to get around.

How to find your bus:
From Sukhumvit take the skytrain or metro to Mo Chit. Then you will need a taxi for approx. 50B. There are many taxis outside the Skytrain station.

step1/
Ask the taxi to drop you off on the 3rd floor ramp. That's where they sell the tickets for the buses to Isaan. As you walk in, right in front of you is the long information desk. They speak English and will direct you to the numbered ticket window of your destination.

step2/
Buy you ticket and they will tell you which numbered gate is your bus leaving from.

step3/
Find your gate. The number of your bus is written on your ticket. Destinations are also listed in English at the gates and on buses usually. You won't really need to speak a word of Thai.

Assuming that you stop over in Khorat (also called Nakhon Rachasima), your first trip will take approx. 3-4 hours. In Khorat there are many hotels for 200-400B and a tuk-tuk will take you there for 30-40B from the bus. However, there are hotels within walking distance to the bus terminal as well.

Next day from Khorat to Udon Thani your bus will leave from another bus terminal but no need to worry as tuk-tuk drivers know this. Make sure you get an aircon bus. Count on another 4 or 5 hours pleasant journey. There is usually at least one comfort stop of 10-20 minutes on the way.

Arriving at Udon Thai bus station you will find many hotels right next door. Also a most excellent nightly food-market, a large Robinsons shopping centre and also the railway station.

For a room in Udon you will pay around 400 B that would cost 1000 B in Bangkok. Good value. Tuk-tuk or samlo (tricycle) in town costs 30-40B. There are quite a few things to see. Many hotels give out free maps of the town or there is a tourist info office near the lake/central parklands. Feeding the fish at Nong Prajak park near the town centre can be fun.

Virtually all of those farangs you will see walk around with their hired fuckers. Some very ugly (possibly wives) while others adorable, 18-19 year young chickens. Really all they are showing is how much money they have. And certainly not how good they are. The meat never asks where your money came from. As long as you have it, you are fine by them.

So, if you have the cash you can feel like a Bruce Willis for a couple of days. It's a bit like feeding the fish at the lake in fact. You must have 'fish-food' otherwise they won't give a fuck about your great intellect or muscles, etc.Them fuckers are now everywhere. Especially around the Robinson shopping centre. Some crouch on the footpath, smiling. Others in packs of 3 or 4 wander around the shopping centre, seekeng eyecontact. You would have to be lame (or broke) not to be able to pick up one or more.

It is clear all they see in you is their new MP3 player or digital camera. Those stupid little toys cost around 6000++ Baht each. Blame mass commercialism. From their 4000 B/month salary they could never afford to buy it yet soooooo many have either or both.

So, it's fascinating to see the developments in this part of the country. As it is not a regular tourist destination, it is not so much in sight as Bangkok or Pattaya and really has the potential to rock within a couple of years. Hold your breath to see the first gogo bar appearing soon in Udon Thani.

In case you don't fancy to look ridiculous and walk around with them fuckers for the price of a digital camera, there is still the good, old knocking-shop district with the 800 baht deal and youn Lao cunts. (see previous reports).
500 for the fuck, 100 for the room, 100 for tuk-tuk and maybe 100 baht tip if you wish. $20 dollars total.

You are in and out in an hour and don't have to say as much to the fucker as "hold my dick". I mean if you don't want to get braindamaged by conversing with smelly meat it's a better choice. (But so many guys actually spend days with them so are they now braindamaged or what?)

One very interesting experiment is to sit down in the afternoon, (preferably on a weekend) on a bench at the lake in the park and as if you were reading a book, etc. Soon a bunch of young chickens will gather around you, like guys gather around a naked woman on a nudist beach. Pretend you are not noticing them and they will get more and more brave trying to get your attention.

After all they see their new digital camera in you. But don't be deceived by the looks. It is very dangerous to get involved with any fucker outside a brothel, as I have warned you before. (There are many horror stories.) The best is, when you had enough fun just get up and walk away. There are many brothels in town where you can buy them for cash and at a fixed price.

It's important to keep the transaction strictly business. Let's not give meat even more rights than they already have by spoiling them. And remember that the brothels need your custom to survive. So, support the official sex-industry!

When you will be old and low on looks and low on cash you will wish that there were more quality meat in cheap brothels. So, do your homework now for a better future for all your brothers, all of us men. Keep the meat low so that men can be high.

Another even BETTER option might be to estimate how much you would spend on one hired fucker, then give the amount to the beggars. Go home and have a wank instead, with a good, warm feeling in your heart and your hand as well. Sure, it's the best option if you think about it.
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A very romantic story follows. Get a handkerchif ready.
So, if you arrive in Udon Thani when the Lao brothels are closed, what can you do? There is still meat, but only local. The selection is not that great but still can be okay. One such occasion happened like this:

Lots of tuk-tuk drivers opposite Robinsons plaza. Walked to one. Informed him that already looked around and no meat seems available in any of the regular briothels. He said no probs. Agreed on price which was same as usual (100 driver, 500 fuck, 100 room). We drove 5 minutes on dark streets. Pulled up at a hotel. Met another young Thai man.

He rode off on his motorbike and was back in another 5 minutes. With only ONE Thai girl! Unfortunately couldn't choose this time. Seems she worked in a Thai karaoke nearby. But she looked allright for a fuck. Quite young, long bleached hair, slim and pretty faced. Gave 500 B to the moto guy for fuck fee.

The room was also quite okay, much better than the Lao brothels. Still cost just 100 B. We showered together. She started sucking BB and quite well too. I looked at her ****. Seemed edible so went for it. Then fucked for a while in many positions. I am really not crazy for meat and not much into fucking with them, but it was earning another point for the fuck-record and that's what matters. Plus I had the story.

Did my usual 25 strokes, or about. (Let the young studs wear out themselves in work). I considered if I should wank on her face, as usual. I think it is kind of degrading for the meat. It's a bit like shitting on their face, isn't it? Who wouldn't want to shit on the face of a woman? But the sperm came out too early inside the cunthole.

We licked each other for a while, just like they teach you in Holliwood films as papa and mama do. It was very romantic and lovely emotional felliiing. Then we dressed up. Outside the driver was still waiting. He enuired about the experience. What could I say? It was a fuck.

Just a fuck like all the others. Lucky, I don't have to do it again for a while. Done the target for the month. Got much better plans to do than rooting meat anyway.
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The most excellent thing about the whole story is this: I didn't have to ask her whether she wanted to fuck me or not. It was a matter of course. I didn't have to chat with her, buy her a drink, become her friend or prostitute myself any other similar way. Didn't actually ask her name. When I pointed to my dick she sucked and when I pointed to her **** we fucked it was so simple.

I am getting fed up with Pattaya. In every dirty brothel or bar there are some cunts that refuse to fuck and it is very demoralizing for a man. This stands for most of the Pattaya, Bangcock and Phuket, etc bars. That's why I have grown to appreciate the Cambodian and Indonesian system where you pick a girl and that's all the effort from your side. Even Laos is okay. It's never a question whether she wants to fuck or not.

So, if you ask whether you can laid without prostituting yourselves by getting too much involved with meat, the answer is a positive: YES. Just have to look around and look BEYOND the beaten track of Thailand or the Philippines. And of course, we have to learn to cooperate more with other sex-tourists. This forum is GREAT!

[Brymor]

Humble Turd,

"Flying is possible from Bangkok (for rich guys, I know there are many), as there is an airport near Udon town centre".

If you book on line and in advance with Air Asia you can get some great deals. Last year I got return flights to Udon Thani from Bangkok for 3000 baht including taxes. If you add up the figures you are paying an extra 1400 baht for the plane instead of a tortuous journey by coach. I am not rich (wish I was) but the flights win hands down every time.

[Patterson]

Any info on this area on Burma border ???

Ive been told can do a visa run there so might check it out if any action near.

Cheers.

[Willo69]

Last weekend I made my way up to Nong Khai; here is what I found.

It had been several years since I was last here. Back then Guest houses numbered a few - now they proliferate the city. Along with this proliferation come the tight arses of the tourist industry Mr. & Mrs. Backpacker. After finding a suitable hotel (Not a guest house) for whoring activities I engage the services of a tuk tuk driver to take me to a good hong sue pay nee.

About 300m from the Prap Haw monument down a soi towards the Mekong river then left into a sub soi we arrive at the bahn poo ying (sue pay nee). An old wooden house (shack) the weather boards rotten and could almost be seen through – well air conditioned if you know what I mean. Before I could get out of the tuk tuk, cries of falang mah, falang mah rang out, heads poped out of windows, pooying came out onto the street – even the dogs couldn’t stop barking. The diver introduced me to the Papasun and left after I paid him, papasun then took me inside & we sat down. One of the young pooying’s had already started working the crouch area just as I sat down, papasun summoned the rest of the pooying to come forth. The first thing I noticed was the wide age group, we are talking 18 to 45. Anyway I select one of the younger girls (Nat) but papsun said “she pang mak mak this one over there took kwah” well how much is pang I said. Papasun replies 1000 Baht! The background chatter went silent and the girls close enough started to eavesdrop into conversation. In Thai I told him this wasn’t a very fancy ***** house yet prices like that assumed luxury surroundings drop you price to 500B or I leave. Ok 500 one hour he said.

We enter the room and the floor boards creek, you ab nam Nat replied Ok I said so off we went down the hall way to one of those typical Thai bath rooms – no hot water here just nam yen. Back in the bed room its straight down to business, some CBJ and clit fingering. After 5 min or so still, on all fours she beckons me to start pumping her doggy style, then I finish her off with her legs over my shoulders. She gives a standard massage after sex and then we finish. In summary, not everyone will like places like this but this was a Thai mans brothel in a poor country area; these women serviced rice growers & cattle men so standards are not high.
That night I visit a karaoke joint along Th Prajak not far from where I stayed but not much action, lots of looks from the girls but they seem a little reserved & up-market, (I am 38 after all)

Next day I walk down Th Rimkhong, in need of a hair cut I spot one barber shop with girls hanging out the front. They (2 girls cutting) get the job done and start pushing for a massage shave etc. Not trusting their razor skills I opt for the massage with one of the girls named pung; we go up stairs. The usual oily followed with cock fondling. You give me 500 Baht for chuck wael she replied - no I said but 100 Baht I can give, she agreed. After the job (hand that is) was done with she gave me her mobile number, said she was doing nothing tonight and would finish work at 9:00pm.
A quick visit to Sala Kaew park for some cultural enlightenment then back to base for mid afternoon nap.

After dinner I give pung a call and agree to meet her outside the barber shop. We leave and head for some Lao disco along Prajak rd. Well cut along story short we finish back at my hotel well before taksins curfew (I hate disco’s anyway) where pung spends the night and part of next day. She was great, much more class than the girl back at the ***** house but unfortunately all good things must come to an end cause latter that day I had to make my way back to Korat.

Willo

[Coma Boy]

About 300m from the Prap Haw monument down a soi towards the Mekong river then left into a sub soi we arrive at the bahn poo ying (sue pay nee).Willo, this word you keep hearing is "sopaynee"/"โสเภณี" it means "prostitute".

[The Traveler]

Willo,

you obviously have been at an "upmarket" place where the people had some education and good manners, otherwise they would have said "galee" :)

[RCA Knight]

Mortman: "Flying is possible from Bangkok (for rich guys, I know there are many)

Air Asia's slogan- Now everyone can fly. I always book BKK-Udon roundtrip for 2000 bahts or less on line. Now even poor people can fly.

Go to Udon for a night or two then have 4-5 little Lao cuties from ban-puying a day. Still cheaper than venture out to BKK night spots.

[Coma Boy]

Soon I will visit my girl friend in Kham Ta Kla, a district in SakkonNakkon.

I can stay at her house, but I rather stay in a hotel.

My problem is that I can not find a hotel near Kham Ta Kla.Paulo, chances are this district doesn't have any hotels or guesthouses.

Even the provincial capital of the Sakon Nakhon doesn't have too much to offer. The Kham Ta Kla district is over 100 kilometres from the capital and is most likely a rural area with no such facilities. The centre of Kham Ta Kla may have a small guesthouse but even this could be far from your girl's house.

You'll probably have no choice other than to stay in her village. Staying in an Issan village can be good fun, you'll get used to it after the first day. If you're not enjoying yourself they'll be plenty of cousins offering you Lao-Khao to help you adjust.

You've been invited to meet the parents, turning down their hospitality may be seen as an insult. If you really don't want to stay with her family just tell her.

Unless you're planning to marry this girl it's a little inappropriate to even visit in the first place.

[Willo69]

word you keep hearing is "sopaynee"/"โสเภณี" it means "prostitute".CB,

It’s NOT me hearing sopaynee (ok I spelt it suepaynee) its me using / writing it. Those of us who have been around know bahn poo ying / hong sopaynee translate to brothel or the other word w-house that got replaced with ***** by the moderator.

Traveler,

I do hear galee used by tuk tuk drivers / men’s talk (no women around) etc but I refrain from using galee when conversing with Thai’s because:

A/ Can be confused with curry (pong galee = Turmeric)

B/ Thai's consider it vulgar speak - as you say less educated.

Willo

[The Traveler]

Soon I will visit my girl friend in Kham Ta Kla.

This is a district in SakkonNakkon.

I can stay at her house, but I rather stay in a hotel.

My problem is that I can not find a hotel near Kham Ta Kla.

Here are many experienced Thai-fans and I hope that somebody can give me any information about hotels and Kham Ta Kla.

Please ....please.......help me !

Khop Kun Khap
Paulothai,

I second everything that Coma has said.
Staying upcountry isn't that bad even though her home might look quite simple and often dirty to you. I posted some pics about two weeks ago how an average home of a farmer looks like Have a look at it, download them and ask your GF if her home is like that. If you can't bear it you should better decline her offer.

Anyway, as Coma said, if you don't have any honest intentions regarding that girl you shouldn't show up there. She will automatically be marked as a prostitute in case people do not know about you. That's their first thought when a Thai stays with a farang. Maybe it will turn into jealousy as soon as the big bucks roll in

Ban Kham Ta Kla is exactly 109kn north of Sakhon Nakhon with an estimated population of around 12.000. So there should be a hotel or at least something that can be called like that. Why not call TAT and ask them, maybe they have a hotel directory.

Tourism Authority of Thailand
202 Le Concorde Plaza
Ratchadaphisek Road, Huai Khwang
Bangkok 10320, Thailand
Tel: 02 694 1222, Fax: 02 694 1220-1
www.tat.or.th
www.tourismthailand.org
Email: center@tat.or.th


TAT Service-Center
Tel. hotline 1155 (24h)
Email 1155@tat.or.th

[Xerus]

Danuk is still much alive. This was my third overnight stay at this cowboy town and kinda grew to love it despite Hatyai getting all the glory. I've always liked Betong's afternoon pub scene and all the nude / topless ago go dancers but I didn't know that this town do offer such experiences. (Maybe me. Kinda slow lah! )

Headed to a hotel called Oscar along the main road and paid RM 65 for a room, I think it's kinda expensive because other smaller hotels offer between RM 35 to 45. The Thai massage, as usual is good. Would normally go for oil massage with HJ at the end. Just paid the extra rm 10 only above the norm.

Night scene

Checked out Spider. Topless dancers, some stupid shows - scrony guys doing stunts (who wanna see? ). Dun want to get into details. Lots of yound puyings around.

Sha-la-la CAfe. Wow. Lots of techno and quite similar to Spider. I was told by a massage girl that Sha-la-la is better. BUt I think you should also check both out as they are quite to each other.

I preferred Bangkok Cafe because the girls are more tasteful to my standards. Most puyings are from Hatyai as I came to know it rather than localised Danukians and its surroundings. Actually surrounded by so many puyings and never had so much attention in my life. Hehehe, I guess maybe it's weekdays, puying > customers. Ended up with a very yummy and beautiful puying, Noi's the name. Finger licking goood! Ohh. Yes there's a water tub in the middle of the cafe with puying dancing in the tub! ? These's are good attractions? Beers (rm 14 per large bottle), girls, music, . Water tube?

There are many other cafes/ around town, just follow the pounding of the beat! The town is small so you just need to open your ears, and it will lead you to a puying's nest!

Did what a local would do. Since I had much time to spare. Took a van from Danuk to Hatyai and it only cost 50 Baht. Just wait outside the 7 eleven and a counter is available there to take your bookings. No tickets involved. The van will drop you off whereever in Hatyai. Just tell the ticketing booth personal. If you need to go back to Danuk by van again, the pick up point is at the "Pasar" in Hatyai. Just go under the pedestrian overhead bridge in front of the pasar. Also 50 Baht!

It was a good and enjoyable trip this time. And won't be my last!

[Brymor]

Guys,

I will be in Chiang Rai again from May 6th for four or five days. Anyone fancy meeting up for a beer? Just phoned my little honey up in Chiang Rai and she tells me the police have closed most of the bars down in town, that was why she was at home instead of working. I am going to stay in the "City Welcome" a very clean, new up market guest house with en suite. Prices from 300 baht per night and right next to the night bazaar. Anyone got any up to date info on Chang Rai?

[Meaty]

Guys, need some up to date info on Bang Saen, i've done a goole search and a forum search, the most i can find is Galaxy Entertainment Complex and Happy World, Galaxy sounds great, not sure of HW, but info was from early last year, does anyone have any recent info on night spots, possible pick up bars and MP's. I know the scene is, well, there isn't one really for westerners, but TIT and there are places to go in every corner of the country, so any uptodate info would be great. If it helps in the thought process, i can get by with speaking Thai and understand the behaviour standards expected in Thai oriented places.
Appreciate your help, and naturally a full FR will be posted next week when i get back.

[Lee66]

Are the brothels that are on the udon map open again? I was last there in January ,many were closed due to pending police action.

[Kplastik54]

Hi Bros,

Will be visiting Langkawi. Just thinking whether visiting Satun across the border will be worth my while. Are they any actions in Satun?Just curious!

Kplastik man

[Freeler]

Plastik,

Mosques dot the skyline of Satun. This town best feature is the bus to Had Yai.
STAY AWAY!
(I didn't... I made this mistake so you don't have to suffer....:()

[Jalle]

Hi Bros,

Will be visiting Langkawi. Just thinking whether visiting Satun across the border will be worth my while. Are they any actions in Satun?Just curious!

Kplastik manThere is virtually nothing to do in Satun. As Freeler said, it's propably better to stay away. However, people are very friendly and not so tourist oriented as elsewhere in Thailand.

Still you better off by taking bus to Had Yai or Trang. When I was coming from Langkawi to Satun, it was very difficult to locate bus station and get information about schedules because of the language barrier. Even getting from Tha Thammalang pier to Satun town was a challenge. We took a local bus with million stops (4-5 hours!) to Trang which is a beutifull city with non-commercial attitude and very inexpensive compared to many other cities in Thailand. There is some action in Trang if you ask Tuk-Tuk drivers. Prices are way lower than in Krabi or Had Yai while quality stays the same.

[Kplastik54]

Bro Jalle and Freeler,

Thanks for the info. Satun is out of my agenda

TQ

Kplastik

[Erikla]

Guys, need some up to date info on Bang Saen I have been going to BangSaen for over 10 years, you are right, there is no scene.

Galaxy is way too expensive, too much mafia hanging around.

Just across from the university some karaoke's and bars have sprung up the last few years, pretty nice to hangout and meet girls and see some nice Thai bands. Very enjoyable.

Burdock disco is a favorite with students and the girls get pretty wild, i love this place. (Be a bit carefull as 2 shootings have taken place there the last few years, last january cops have shot some guys as well)

There is another disco next door, forgot the name. Didnt like that one. (Some Muslim guy outside making trouble)

At the small karaoke's you can sit outside, enjoy the girls, they are really fun and many lookers. Prices are very, very good!

At the corner of beachroad and second road, where the motorbike taxi's are, you can get a good massage, 200 Baht for 2 hours! These girls are very willing to come to your room as well!

At the north end of the boulevard is Xylem pub, last year called BangSaen House, and this year changed again, forgot the name. Nice in the weekends as Bangkokians party and drink there. Week days are a bore.

Further north lots of restaurants with live music, no scene there as well.

Actually I will be scouting for a new place as, for me, too many farangs are there now. Some ugly old gays hang around, not my cup of tea.

Enjoy!

[Meaty]

What a dilema, Sid and i enjoyed the services of 2 very talented ladies in a suite room, we drank, ate and we had a lot of fun, the girls were game for absolutely ANYTHING, they were swopping with us, all 4 of us were in the jacuzzi it was amazing, the cost was 1,900 Baht for 2 hrs, per girl, which included the 2 bedroom VIP suite. First shot and all the fun was included, second shot was 500 baht to the girl who achieved it. The trouble is i don't want to say where it was, this place could easily be ruined by overpaying or underpaying holidayers and this place would then lose its appeal, the girls become hardened, and the whole experience be just like any other in Bangkok.
The brothers who i would tell the location too, most if not all senior members, will probably know it already, so nothing lost, PM if you want the venue, i just don't want this gem of a place to be ruined by lurkers, stingies, and loaders.
Anyone who wants to find it themselves could do so without any difficulty, but forgive me for not pointing thousands of sex mongers to this gem just yet.
Other than that, plenty of mafia types down alleys willing to have a beer with you and offer you ladies of the night, we managed to be out partying until 5.30am. We even managed to get picked up off of the street by 2 girls from ABAC university driving a VIOS, the driver had more money than i could ever dream of, we had a good laugh, but it was clear from the start it was only going to be freindship, nice girls, both 18yrs old !
Happy World was crap, 1,900 for FB or 600 for white coat grandma's, enjoyed a beer but didn't play.
Galaxy was okay, FB, again grandma's on the right in white coats 600 Baht, some cuties on the left, 1,700 Baht, sidelines sat along a bar on the right for 1,900 Baht. Hung on till 6pm to see what the 'No Bra' entailed, it simply meant that some of the sideliners downstairs came upstairs and slipped there bra's off, still wearing a blouse or shirt, so not topless, just free flow titties, these were also 1,900 Baht. Had a lovely from the No Bra, real fun girl, great interaction and up for most things, room was fine, big round bed, double bath. Had BBBJ, FS and was offered Bareback and anal !
Asia Massage, didn't get to it, we were stuck in traffic going through Chonburi when i saw Forum shopping centre on the right, we were in the right hand lane, and slightly behind to the left was an alley and the big red sign, tried to pull across but traffic was too thick, not as difficult to find as previously mentioned though.
Peace,
M

[Meaty]

Thanks for the info, unfortunately i'm reading it after getting back, the disco info would have been handy, and the pre-knowledge of the mafia around Galaxy also handy, but we figured it pretty quick and managed to enjoy ourselves.
Definetly a rough edge to the place late at night though, there were a few guys just looking for an excuse to get nasty :( but overall it was fine.

[Crazy4Thai]

As for BKK and PTTY I've been there and done that many times. I spent Songkran in Kon Kaen and liked the pace and cost of living. I had a new 4 star hotel with bkfst and lobby wi-fi for 880 bht. For thrills, I prefer freelance, either street or disco.

With 6 weeks to go, I'd like the input of the board.

Thanks,

C4T

[Changray69]

I'm going to have a short holiday in June in Udon and I'd like to have some information about the nightlife.What about discos where is possible to have fun and meet good hot ladies? Is Mambo a good place? Do you know a fine and friendly hotel?

[Erik]

Fantastic post from Humble Turd about Udon Thani, back in March. Infos + impressions + humor ! All we need is there.

[Freeler]

These pics just to show that not all the women in Pilok were born in Hagsville...

[Brymor]

Hi Guys
Just returned from the LOS and made my second visit to Chiang Rai. I stayed in a new upmarket guest house called the "City Home" situated in an alley just off the square by the night bazaar. Absolutely spotless inside with air con for 400 baht per night and very girl friendly. I was there between the 5th of May and the 11th and though fairly quiet on the Frang front there was plenty of action to be had. I stayed clear of the little private street that has the Lobo Bar and can confirm the information submitted on previous reports that suggests they are rip offs having spoken to a few locals. I picked up at the little bars in and around the night bazaar on two nights and then had some cuties from a couple of bars along the road behind the Wancome Hotel. I spent some time researching Chiang Rai and reading some of the archive reports. There was mention of action along the airport road so I hired my little honda and set off in search of some fun. I wish the old reports had mentioned that the airport road is actually the name of the road and not where it is situated! Well I had an interesting ride to the the airport all the same before the penny dropped. My last report on Chiang Rai provoked some interesting discussions about prices. I still had difficulty getting long time for under 2000 baht even with Farang in short supply and I would welcome any advice from members who are frequent visitors to this place as to where they find cheaper action. Anyway I eventually found the Airport Road which is only five minutes away from the town centre by bike. Didn't see much action though to be fair it was only 5pm. I found one up market shack with three women sat outside who were prepared to come back with me for short time for 1000 baht each. Sadly two of them were pretty ugly and the third who was an 8/10 wouldn't go on her own. Mind you it could have been 3000 baht well spent but I don't think I would have done myself justice anyway having already banged a sweety that morning. I made my way down to BKK after 5 days and spent an interesting few days in Nana Plaza for which I will submit a seperate report in the appropriate section. I have thoroughly enjoyed my time in Chiag Rai, yes the pace of life is different and the action not as much in your face as it is in other parts of the country but a good time can still be had. I had a little cutie in tow for some of the time but would still recommend the place for mongers who want a more relaxed pace of life

[Kplastik54]

Hi Bros,

Just want to remind you that, if you come from Malaysia at the Immigration check point, please do not take the service of the "motor" rider from the Malaysia side to go to Kolok. Told of horror stories i.e.

1. Being pestered and "forced" to take a girl (mostly unattractive) from their contact establishment at exorbitant price (2500B)

2. A friend got ripped 1200B for just traditional massage, when he is not interested for a FJ. He was told that by the girl that they paid her only 600B for 2 hours (see how much commision the rider took!). They switched girl, not the one pointed from the OKTs photos. What sad is that the OKT(stories from 1 and 2) is a Malay married to a Thai women and since residing at Kolok. I apologize cos I cannot remember the name of the establishment.

Frankly, the OKTs and some crooked Malaysian moto riders are colluding to prey on lone newbie with a weak heart. They are getting desperate with less tourists in town at the moment.

My advice is as follows:

Walk over to the Thai side and catch a rider over there at the the Thai immigration to go to Kolok. My experience to stay at the Marina Hotel, it is nice and the staff very friendly (585B for a nite). Just next to the hotel there are tons of beautiful (different grades A, B and C). For A grade (very pretty girl) will cost you 2000 - 2500B only.

Just avoid the cunning moto riders which hang around the food stalls on the left side of the road before Malaysian immigration. Also found near the Malaysian tourist information centre (mostly rude when you refuse their services).Even a slightest acknowledgement from you, they will stick to you like leeches. Just "never talk to them".

By the way, Thailand is a woderful place for cheongsters. Be safe all

Plastik man

[Opebo]

Being recently trapped in Maha Sarakham I went out looking for girls at about 11 PM on a Saturday. I visited the one nightclub 'downtown' near the bus station and department store, and was charged 180 baht for a beer - the one drink minimum required for entrance. Thai nightclubs are such a ripoff. I had visited one of the other nightclubs in town the previous night, and they were both devoid of freelancers - not surprising considering there are almost no foreigners in town, and no tourists.

I then asked one motorbike taxi driver for a girl. He asked me to wait and went to fetch one. When she turned up a few minutes later she was not doable, so I gave them each 20 baht for their trouble and walked on. I hate asking taxi drivers to be taken to girls, but when in unfamiliar territory there is often no choice.

So I asked another driver, and he took me to a very dark back soi nearby, where three chubby girls and one enormously fat pimp were lurking. I tried to communicate, and was offered a girl all night for 1,500 baht! I said no thanks to this ridiculous price, and was about to leave when a girl offered short time for 500. I said fine and she asked to be paid upfront so I told the taxi driver to leave. The situation seemed creepy to me, there in the dark, and I never pay upfront.

Later as I was trying to direct the driver to my rooms, it materialized that the girl was following us on her motorbike - I had assumed our negotiations were concluded but apparently by following she had assented to being paid after proceedings. We went to a nearby short time hotel - the driver called it the 'holiday inn' - which cost 160 baht. The room was clean, but the aircon barely worked. The walls near the bed were mirrored.

The girl was rather fat but somewhat cute and not too old - about 20-25. She provided very poor service, as is typical in Thailand outside the tourist areas, but fortunately assented redily to bareback. She also would not provide BJ, again a problem found outside the better areas. To her credit she did not complain at the falang length session - it took me perhaps 20-30 minutes of grinding to complete the deed given the lack of excitement due to no BJ, and the low level of attractiveness of the girl. Even this was only accomplished because it had been a week since I my last encounter (in Pattaya). But sometimes even third rate service can be preferrable to one's own hand, if it has been too long.

Afterwards she explained to me that out of the five hundred 100 went to the driver who had brought me, and 200 each to her and her pimp. Presumably a thai might've paid considerably less, and even a better informed falang might've bargained down a bit by avoiding the taxi driver. Anyway my total cost was 500+160+80 baht for the driver: 740 baht.

If anyone wishes to find the girls and pimp I described, they are on a completely unlit soi near the downtown area, which is the area that includes the Sem Thai department store, the Taxila and Vasu hotels, and the bus station. The soi seemed very hard to find and possibly dangerous if on foot. Also no one here speaks any English.

Unsurprisingly, Maha Sarakham seems to be a very poor location for mongering, but I will post more if I discover more. Roi Et is nearby, and is reputed to be a superior locale.

[Freeler]

Opebo,

THNX for that report - useful!

'Roi Et is nearby, and is reputed to be a superior locale.'
You might get disappointed again. OTOH Roi Et is booming, so who knows...

[Robert the Brave]

Before you all start on me I have RTFF but it is rather old.Do I need to bring company with me or is it easy to find? Any advice about hotels and female company?
The proposed trip is in November but I will need to make a decision before the end of June 2006 as to whether it is worth making a booking.

Thank You all.

[Member #3173]

Just back from this place after 2 nights.The karaoke joints will be closed tonight for King's Birthday and you may need good connections to get what you want.Otherwise would have stayed for 3 and can buy duty free wine as well.Still it was a good trip entertainment wise.

[Opebo]

Opebo,
'Roi Et is nearby, and is reputed to be a superior locale.'
You might get disappointed again. OTOH Roi Et is booming, so who knows...

This prediction was accurate, Freeler, as yesterday I was disappointed by Roi Et. While it is true that there seems to be more available there, none of what was available was appealing.

I visited the second floor of the Mai Tai hotel, a place well know by all in town, where it is said there was once a fishbowl. Now the girls are seated in various portions of a bar-room, and are available for massage and full service at 1,500 baht for 1.5 hours. Needless to say I was unwilling to pay such a price in Isaan (to be fair I wouldn't be willing to pay such a price anywhere in this country but Bangkok). Why is it that such places are no cheaper up in the poor, backward parts of the country? I suppose they are there for the rich Thai men. At any rate a few of the girls were very attractive, but those were taken very quickly by Thais. The old and unattractive remained.

Following this I ventured to a spot recommened by local falang which they called 'Gummy Bears', in reference to the age of the providers. It is an old decrepit hotel two blocks behind the Post Office, which is on the lake. There I discovered that in addition to a couple of aged hags, there were several in their 30's, who ranged from unattractive to barely acceptable. Alas they quoted the price of 500 baht - I had been led to expect 300, and bargained for same. The girls there seemed to have a very bad attitude, and the one I took kept repeating something in Thai that seemed important enough to forstall having sex. I kept saying 'mai cowjai', assuming she would begin some form of charades, as is the usual practice, but she did not. Instead she merely kept repeating the phrase - I don't remember how many times, but finally I just got up and left. There was something creepy about a person who was so dim as to 1) not understand that a foreigner might not understand, and 2) fail to attempt some form of mime to get the point accross.

I proceeded to tell my two farang friends, through the doors of their respective rooms, that I was leaving, and they also decided not to 'go for it', as their girls were even less appealing than mine. I went back later that night to try again, but was treated in a brusque and unfriendly fashion. I suppose I had quickly received the name of a problem customer, which was a shame as there were so few services in the town that even 'Gummy Bears' was worth trying twice.

After this bad experience, I cruised the park next to the lake. I had been told there might be some females there in addition to those which one would prefer to avoid, but I was disappointed. I then proceeded to the entertainment strip ancored by the OhNo disco, where I chatted up a friendly large-bottomed/big legged woman at a smaller bar down the row. She seemed very friendly, and seemed to be a bar-girl, but when I proposed that she accompany me to my hotel she said I must 'pay bar' 2,000 baht! I simply laughed and walked away.

Finally at the hotel - a cheap and shoddy one accross from the Mai Tai - I asked how much for a girl to be sent to my room, and was quoted the price of 1,500 baht. So, I went to bed unrequited, and with money burning a hole in my pocket as they say. Isaan, again, proves bizarrely hard in which to get laid! Obviously others would have had better luck in the same circumstances if they were prepared to spend big money for dubious small-town quality. For those I include the above information, but I cannot recommend Roi Et.

[Malam Paya]

Alright mongers, give a fellow hobbyist the tip on Lopburi, Massage parlours are my favourite type of establishment. I hope someone has some info as the missus won't let me out on a recon mission alone!

[Opebo]

On a recent journey northwards I visited a hotel-brothel in Nong Kai. Alas I did not get the name, but it is located just a few blocks from the Pantawee Hotel on a soi perpendicular to the Mekong riverfront, but only one block away from the river soi. Leaving the front door of the Pantawee one would proceed towards the river, and then turn right at the first intersection. The soi in question would then lie to ones left within a few blocks. I apologize for the poor directions but one could simple walk up and down all of these sois without wasting too much time. You won't miss it as the small lobby should contain obvious working girls who will probably call out to you.

At this hotel I was offered several girls, most of whom were very attractive and in their early twenties, for 500 baht. Several of the girls had a definite Vietnamese look, which called to mind the lost wonders of K11. I took one but once in the room was disappointed to find that she would not bareback. I paid and left, but when I was passing later that evening the mamasan came out and told me she had one girl available for that purpose. Of course this turned out to be the the least attractive of her stable - a 30-ish chubby girl - but I went for it. The session was acceptable, though afterwards the girl attempted to suggest that the 500 baht was for mamasan and that I should give her another 500 baht! Needless to say I paid no tip. The room was hot but clean, and the place was quite colorful. Alas, it is frustrating to have very cute 20 year olds available for third rate sex, or third rate girls available for the real thing. Still, for me, the choice was easy.

Later I continued my searches in Udon Thani, where I found a small area of traditional western-oriented beer bars downtown that no doubt everyone knows. The girls here were very attractive, but expensive - bar fine alone was 300 baht. I then sought out, per the recommendation of a local expat, an area of sois filled with brothels. The gent had reported a price of 400 baht all in, but happily upon arrival I was quoted 300 baht, and the girls were nearly all good looking and fairly young.

I took one who looked accomodating but was met with condom insistence in the room. Of course in such circumstances I would pay anyway despite having no sex, but in any case the system at these houses is pre-pay to the papasan, so the point was moot. I moved on unrequited, but soon picked a cute young Lao girl in another house who, once alone in the room, agreed without reluctance to oral and bareback for another 300. Excellent session - including creampie - with a tight-bodied, as yet unmatronly 19 year old for a total of 600 baht. Be warned that these houses are very rough, with fairly hot rooms, and the most rudimentary of bucket showers - in the second house there was in fact no water at all. Also many of the girls will not perform oral sex at all, some will do so only for a tip. Still, these places are better than the bar alternative.

To find these houses you can take a samlor from the Robinsons downtown area. Just tell the driver 'soi sam' or 'soi jet'. There were other brothel sois as well off of Adulyadej(sp?) road. I was given to understand that soi 3 (sam) was the lower end soi, and soi 7 (jet) was the one with better girls, and I was quoted 500 baht at a house on seven, though the girls only seemed marginally better looking. I didn't explore any other sois in between. No doubt the continued existence of such places is precarious in the modern environment of crackdowns, so enjoy while you can.

[RCA Knight]

Barebacking in Udon Thani or Nong Khai brothels is almost like suicide. These girls easily get over 20 customers a day on weekends. Lots of these Thai men secretly take off the raincoats during plays and shoot inside these girls and have absolutely no concern for the girls. The brothel girls also rarely do health checks. I also found out a big percent of them have very obvious genital warts. Be extra careful with these young Lao girls in these brothels. I would think the STD or even HIV infection rates in these brothels are much much higher than regular massage parlours. Barebacking is a very bad idea in these brothels.

[BlueDragon88]

Hi All,

Tiger Airways was given the approval from DCA to fly direct from Singapore to Udon Thani as reported in BangkokPost today.

Cheers

[Thaifun]

In the past months, I have been travelling up-country. Here some hints for our stormtroopers.

Sakon. Try the Asia hotel. Very cheap and a rather rough place. However, the parking lot has sometimes action at night with the "bungalows" serving as a venue. If you exit the hotel and walk down the small soi you will pass a small house on the right side (about 20-25 meters from the hotel). The lady of the house might offer you her services. Advisable only for those hardened Isaan explorers though.

Surin. Try the barbershop next to the old cinema in the town center. All needs will be met there, though no lookers. It is a local place.

Namrong. Enjoy the entertainment at the busstation. I was surprised by the quality.

Nan. Next to the old busstation in the city center (10 meters off the police post....) you find a kind of karaoke with a first floor entertainment area. Again, local stile.
Near the new busstation on the main road you will find bar action. Exit the busstation to the left towards the town center and then on you right hand side. the bars had 1-2 lookers. They tried to overcharge.

Loei. Plenty of action. clubs in the center, located very compact (expensive to I passed). The local hotel massages seems to prefer local or asian customers. I did not explore the bus station area properly.

Saraburi. The street leading from the road to korat to the city center has plenty of places. No time to explore though.

[Bumholes1]

Did you mean Nangrong?

Try the platform on Surin Rail station. The western end. Afternoons and evenings.

[Mahku]

Before you all start on me I have RTFF but it is rather old.Do I need to bring company with me or is it easy to find? Any advice about hotels and female company?
The proposed trip is in November but I will need to make a decision before the end of June 2006 as to whether it is worth making a booking.

Thank You all.

I'm here on Koh Chang now and I would recommend you bring your own. I'm staying in a fairly remote area at Bhumiyama Resort, Lonely Beach. Nearby are a couple of backpacker places with a sprinkling of decent looking European girls. If anything much happens I'll report on it. But it's been raining almost constantly the past two days and most people are just taking cover, not going out.

On the way here I passed by some small clusters of resorts that looked like they may have a little nightlife. But I doubt there will be great selection and I don't know about guest friendliness of hotels.

I came here for the seafaring kind of diving but even that's not going on with the rain and the rough seas.

[Eric Thai Addict]

I have read a lot about other areas here and especially about Chiang Rai. It seems that I have some different experience than most of you had in that town. Stayed in a hotel east of the clocktower, Saen Phu Hotel, 700bath including breakfast, and a noisy disco in the basement. Buy a bottle of J-Walker Black and within minutes you can order some additional glasses for the girls surrounding you. Good command of Enlish made it easy to negociate for a 1000 LT. Only thing is to leave discrete with her to your room as all those local girls know each other. All the girls I met had ordinairy jobs like hairdresser, maids, shopgirls etc.

During the day time I went south from clock tower passing the massage parlours at the left hand side where all the girls outside yell at you "massage sir". Just smile and find out which one spoeaks a little English. If she also looks OK, I told them that I want special massage only. It seems that they do not understand "full service". They start asking 1500Bath but even with the best lookers I could negociate to 1000bath for 2 hours massage including BBBJ and good fucking. And also those girls are willing to come to your hotel during the day, but that cost quite some more. Meeting them after work was not really a problem.

So have your try.

[Freeler]

Bum,

Of all the rws sws I tried, Surin sws came out the worst. Have times changed?

[Oldian]

Have been out in Isaan for several weeks now, thought I'd update some previous info and add some new stuff:

Udon Thani. Thailand's 3rd largest city. Decent enough place for a few days. Not a whole lot to do, but great food, nice folks, good accomodation value. There are a lot of older farangs with wives from Udon, not exactly a young mongers market. Across from Robinsons in a small alley running parallel to the mall is a strip of beer bars, supposedly to be demolished in the not too distant future. 80% of the gals there I wouldn't have gone home with if they paid me, but there were a few cuties. Didn't feel much rapport though, gals seemed to be a bit put off if you were just passing through Udon. Ended up scoring a freebie, so didn't partake, but barfines are 300, and I presume a minimum of 1000 baht will be necessary on top of that. Better yet are the Lao brothels on Adulyadej Road. From Robinsons walk north, hang a left at the first intersection, and the next right is Adulyadej. Another few hundred meters brings you to the first of many sois (on your right) that are packed with houses. About a 15 minute walk from Robinsons. If you must take a tuk tuk, pay no more than 30-40 baht, and have him drop you at the 7-11 or at the top of the sois, where the tuk tuks all wait. Prices are not 500 baht as quoted in other reports, but roughly 300. Most of the houses are pretty seedy, K-11 material, but there are some cute gals. First place I went, out on the corner of Adulyadej, saw one hottie, they asked 350, I presume 50 went to taking us by motorcycle down the soi to her room. Basic shack room with a scoop bath inside. Tipped the gal 100 as she got well into the session. I speak Thai so know my way around. Don't expect any gal in this area to speak English. Next night, went to the first house on the left down soi 3. Rooms here were very nice, aircon and fan, clean, spacious, decent bathroom with shower. Rate was 320, lineup of gals not great, but a few lookers. Third night, went to the soi before soi 3 (no number marked? ), went to the first or second house on the right. Beautiful gal, 300 was the damage. Again, small shack room, scoop bath outside of the room.

Nong Khai. Decent place to pass a night. Worth the trip to go to the eccectic Sala Kaew Ku sculpture garden just out of town. On the sois between Meechai and whatever street the Mekong is on, there are a few options. From the Danish Bakery/Restaurant/Bar (which looks to have ladies), on Meechai, walk down towards the river. Hotel on left has ladies, in my book all of them dogs. A couple of karaoke places looked just as bad. Decided to pass and get a good night's sleep.

Khon Kaen: weird place. Seems to be where a lot of expats met the wife and got taken to the cleaners. Bangkok+ prices too. Near the Kosa Hotel (Oasis Plaza) is a nightlife area. Eric's Bar full of expats, and another handful of bars there. One cute gal in all. No barfines allowed in Khon Kaen, basically, you need to stay a bit and get to know the gal and then you'll be an item (and on the road to ruin). From Eric's Bar, walk past the Sofitel, soon you will come to the Thai entertainment section. Lots of whiskey clubs, all with shows and gals. Speaking thai might be real helpful, and you'll need to spend some cash. Violin Karaoke had a whole bevy of good looking gals out front, but I wasn't up for wasting the cash. Good news though, walking north from this Thai strip, turn right on Sri Chan (first intersection), then left at the first possible turn (you will see a shrine with tree lights on it up ahead, very dark street). When you reach the shrine, on your left will be a small soi with 3-4 houses of I'll repute. Gals go for 400 baht, the odd diamond in the rough might be found, but again, rather seedy and only for the experienced. Continuing north from the shrine, you'll shortly come to Seven's Corner, nice corner bar with gals, good cheer (sign outside says "don't waste water, drink beer). Again, if you stay a few days, and chat well, you'll be on the road to ruin. Chok dee.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

[Freeler]

Oldie

Nong Khai: I have to agree on your assessment of the hotel around the corner from the bakery. Not only are the women dogs, the rooms are even worse. The Thai/Lao places just NE of the bus terminal are a better place to look for gals.
Sala ku is awesum. A must see!

[Oldian]

Just thought I'd add to what I just wrote, as I've had a few more explorations. Doesn't take long in Khon Kaen to hook up with the bar gals, they treat you as an old friend pretty fast.

Ubon Ratchatani. The Rock Disco in the Nevada Hotel last night had hands down the most stunning women I have seen anywhere at anytime in the Kingdom. Absolutely packed, and 80% of them drunk and loony off their asses. Got a ton of smiles, one gal walked up and said, "hi, I'm single, are you? " Another grabbed my friend's crotch, another asked if we were looking for girlfriends. We were both pretty tired and wanted to watch the World Cup Final, so we mostly just observed, although my friend ended up having one of the hottest gals in the place walk up to him on the way out and give him a slip of paper with her number. We were 2 of the grand total of 4 farangs in the place. It was like being in a barrel of fish with a spear. Makes one consider retirement here!

Udon Thani. Thailand's 3rd largest city. Decent enough place for a few days. Not a whole lot to do, but great food, nice folks, good accomodation value. There are a lot of older farangs with wives from Udon, not exactly a young mongers market. Across from Robinsons in a small alley running parallel to the mall is a strip of beer bars, supposedly to be demolished in the not too distant future. 80% of the gals there I wouldn't have gone home with if they paid me, but there were a few cuties. Didn't feel much rapport though, gals seemed to be a bit put off if you were just passing through Udon. Ended up scoring a freebie, so didn't partake, but barfines are 300, and I presume a minimum of 1000 baht will be necessary on top of that. Better yet are the Lao brothels on Adulyadej Road. From Robinsons walk north, hang a left at the first intersection, and the next right is Adulyadej. Another few hundred meters brings you to the first of many sois (on your right) that are packed with houses. About a 15 minute walk from Robinsons. If you must take a tuk tuk, pay no more than 30-40 baht, and have him drop you at the 7-11 or at the top of the sois, where the tuk tuks all wait. Prices are not 500 baht as quoted in other reports, but roughly 300. Most of the houses are pretty seedy, K-11 material, but there are some cute gals. First place I went, out on the corner of Adulyadej, saw one hottie, they asked 350, I presume 50 went to taking us by motorcycle down the soi to her room. Basic shack room with a scoop bath inside. Tipped the gal 100 as she got well into the session. I speak Thai so know my way around. Don't expect any gal in this area to speak English. Next night, went to the first house on the left down soi 3. Rooms here were very nice, aircon and fan, clean, spacious, decent bathroom with shower. Rate was 320, lineup of gals not great, but a few lookers. Third night, went to the soi before soi 3 (no number marked? ), went to the first or second house on the right. Beautiful gal, 300 was the damage. Again, small shack room, scoop bath outside of the room.

Nong Khai. Decent place to pass a night. Worth the trip to go to the eccectic Sala Kaew Ku sculpture garden just out of town. On the sois between Meechai and whatever street the Mekong is on, there are a few options. From the Danish Bakery/Restaurant/Bar (which looks to have ladies), on Meechai, walk down towards the river. Hotel on left has ladies, in my book all of them dogs. A couple of karaoke places looked just as bad. Decided to pass and get a good night's sleep.

Khon Kaen: weird place. Seems to be where a lot of expats met the wife and got taken to the cleaners. Bangkok+ prices too. Near the Kosa Hotel (Oasis Plaza) is a nightlife area. Eric's Bar full of expats, and another handful of bars there. One cute gal in all. No barfines allowed in Khon Kaen, basically, you need to stay a bit and get to know the gal and then you'll be an item (and on the road to ruin). From Eric's Bar, walk past the Sofitel, soon you will come to the Thai entertainment section. Lots of whiskey clubs, all with shows and gals. Speaking thai might be real helpful, and you'll need to spend some cash. Violin Karaoke had a whole bevy of good looking gals out front, but I wasn't up for wasting the cash. Good news though, walking north from this Thai strip, turn right on Sri Chan (first intersection), then left at the first possible turn (you will see a shrine with tree lights on it up ahead, very dark street). When you reach the shrine, on your left will be a small soi with 3-4 houses of I'll repute. Gals go for 400 baht, the odd diamond in the rough might be found, but again, rather seedy and only for the experienced. Continuing north from the shrine, you'll shortly come to Seven's Corner, nice corner bar with gals, good cheer (sign outside says "don't waste water, drink beer). Again, if you stay a few days, and chat well, you'll be on the road to ruin. Chok dee.

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[Jeremy]

Last weekend I made my way up to Nong Khai; here is what I found.

It had been several years since I was last here. Back then Guest houses numbered a few - now they proliferate the city. Along with this proliferation come the tight arses of the tourist industry Mr. & Mrs. Backpacker. After finding a suitable hotel (Not a guest house) for whoring activities I engage the services of a tuk tuk driver to take me to a good hong sue pay nee.

About 300m from the Prap Haw monument down a soi towards the Mekong river then left into a sub soi we arrive at the bahn poo ying (sue pay nee). An old wooden house (shack) the weather boards rotten and could almost be seen through – well air conditioned if you know what I mean. Before I could get out of the tuk tuk, cries of falang mah, falang mah rang out, heads poped out of windows, pooying came out onto the street – even the dogs couldn’t stop barking. The diver introduced me to the Papasun and left after I paid him, papasun then took me inside & we sat down. One of the young pooying’s had already started working the crouch area just as I sat down, papasun summoned the rest of the pooying to come forth. The first thing I noticed was the wide age group, we are talking 18 to 45. Anyway I select one of the younger girls (Nat) but papsun said “she pang mak mak this one over there took kwah” well how much is pang I said. Papasun replies 1000 Baht! The background chatter went silent and the girls close enough started to eavesdrop into conversation. In Thai I told him this wasn’t a very fancy ***** house yet prices like that assumed luxury surroundings drop you price to 500B or I leave. Ok 500 one hour he said.

We enter the room and the floor boards creek, you ab nam Nat replied Ok I said so off we went down the hall way to one of those typical Thai bath rooms – no hot water here just nam yen. Back in the bed room its straight down to business, some CBJ and clit fingering. After 5 min or so still, on all fours she beckons me to start pumping her doggy style, then I finish her off with her legs over my shoulders. She gives a standard massage after sex and then we finish. In summary, not everyone will like places like this but this was a Thai mans brothel in a poor country area; these women serviced rice growers & cattle men so standards are not high.
That night I visit a karaoke joint along Th Prajak not far from where I stayed but not much action, lots of looks from the girls but they seem a little reserved & up-market, (I am 38 after all)

Next day I walk down Th Rimkhong, in need of a hair cut I spot one barber shop with girls hanging out the front. They (2 girls cutting) get the job done and start pushing for a massage shave etc. Not trusting their razor skills I opt for the massage with one of the girls named pung; we go up stairs. The usual oily followed with cock fondling. You give me 500 Baht for chuck wael she replied - no I said but 100 Baht I can give, she agreed. After the job (hand that is) was done with she gave me her mobile number, said she was doing nothing tonight and would finish work at 9:00pm.
A quick visit to Sala Kaew park for some cultural enlightenment then back to base for mid afternoon nap.

After dinner I give pung a call and agree to meet her outside the barber shop. We leave and head for some Lao disco along Prajak rd. Well cut along story short we finish back at my hotel well before taksins curfew (I hate disco’s anyway) where pung spends the night and part of next day. She was great, much more class than the girl back at the ***** house but unfortunately all good things must come to an end cause latter that day I had to make my way back to Korat.

WilloJust discovered your very interesting FR on Udon. I'll be visiting Udon soon and hope to drop by the barbershop you mentioned. Can you provide more details and directions to this please? Are there others around?

Jeremy

[Opebo]

I recently reported about a certain dark soi near the Serm Thai Department store in Maha Sarakham. Subsequent visits allow me to offer better directions - using the Taxila Hotel as your landmark, turn left out of the hotel parking lot without crossing the canal and then left again at the first soi.

In several visits since my last report I have found that there are often some decent looking women in this small soi, contrary to my first impression. Alas, the best looking would still seem average in Pattaya.

The choice varies greatly from night to night, depending upon who feels like coming in and who is already out with a customer. Some nights there are as few as six girls in the whole soi, and on a few good nights I have seen perhaps a dozen. There are two seperate groups of working girls here, one about 50 yards further down the soi than the other, and both are on the left side. Most of the girls refuse oral, but a few are willing, while some of those who refuse this service offer the best full service. Most seemed happy with 500 baht short time.

In addition, I have discovered a sort of brothel hotel in another part of downtown. Again using the Taxila as the landmark, one would proceed left from the parking lot, but this time using the road on the other side of the canal. Then turn right at the main lights on the Kalasin road. Proceed straight through the roundabout and then right on the soi after the next set of lights after the roundabout. Within a block you will see a few very unattractive older women sitting out on a wooden seating platform to your right.

Over a period of several nights I drove past this group, and stared at them. There was no reaction until just recently, when they finally called out as I passed at around 1:00AM. I stopped, and found that besides the 3-4 sitting in front, there were another 4-6 inside. However all were quite hideous and elderly. I was quoted 300, but then the mamasan figure chimed in and bumped it up to 500. I'm sure one could hold to the 300 figure easily enough with bargaining. I really can't recommend this venue to anyone other than the most desperate, though I have to admit that the middle aged lady I took did provide a decent bbbj.

Lastly, a friend and I did a fairly thorough perusal of some kareoke joints further out along the Kalasin highway, just accross the river. I have never been a fan of the kareoke, and have actually never been able to figure out if one were allowed to take women out from them for short time. The first two establishments had quite a few attractive girls in their early 20's, dressed in a very daring and revealing fashion for Isaan. However the third place, further down and on the right, seemed a rip-off joint with only two old unattractive ladies.

As always in such places, the drinks were expensive, and the girls were not at all forthcoming. We were eventually quoted 1500 baht for short time, a price so ridiculous that I find it hard to believe it was meant seriously. Has anyone else had much experience with these types of places? Is Isaan noted for being generally more expensive than Pattaya?

One further note of interest is that if one proceeds just a bit further out of town on this Kalasin highway past the kareokes, one will see a short time hotel on the left. This place is called the Happy Inn, though I cannot recall if there is an English sign. The rooms are clean and are only 160 baht short time.

[Giotto]

Stayed some days on Ko Samet (a small island in the gulf of Thailand close to Rayong).

Overview

Samet is an awsome island to relax. Beaches and water extremely clean, not too many people, no cars, most beautiful landscape. Reminds me on Samui years ago. Many backpackers there, too.

Hotel

Samet Villa Resort, Ao Phai, 45 Bungalows, not on the cheap side, A/C, Cable TV, Shower, Beachview, average restaurant, Hotel very well run by a swiss owner.

Food

Thai food especially seafood excellent. Western food - don't even try it.

Entertainment

Some bars and restaurants, a outside disco on Silver Sand Beach, 10 pm - 4 am. Fireshows every night.

Girls

Nil. If you go there bring your own TG(s). There are some available in the bars / disco, but the quality is low, and the competition high.

There are more female than male tourists on the island. If you intend to hunt a western woman - that might be a place to go.


Giotto

[Txl Muc]

Overall Rating: 8/10
Attractiveness of staff: 7/10 and 10/10
Quality of service: 8/10
What's special: Very sweet girls, one with a naturally hairless pussy

*** Ubon Ratchathani
Ubon is a provincial capital with a small town feel in Issan, in the northeast of Thailand. The primary purpose of my trip was to have a tour of the Golden Triangle reagion and cross the border to Laos – however, the border to Laos was closed and I spent more time than planned in Ubon itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubon_Ratchathani_Province
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubon_Ratchathani

I spent three evenings in Ubon, two in an massage place and thought I should share that “regional” experience with the board.

*** My Hotel
I had booked the Tohsang Hotel, 251 Palochai Road, Muang. The hotel is a middle class hotel, during my stay all guest were Asian with most being government officials. I was the only Caucasian tourist. The staff are very friendly and accommodating, yet their English is very limited.

http://www.tohsang.com/city/english/index.php

The Tosang’s website remarks that “the hotel is located right in the middle of a calm residential area of the provincial capital of Ubon Ratchathani, which is superbly suitable for travelers who call for a peaceful and dignified stay after a hectic and long hard-working day.” I found it interesting that the site claims it is also “located only a few minute-walk away, as well as nightlife and entertainment districts of the city”.

*** The immediate surroundings
Both descriptions are entirely accurate. The hotel is on the outskirts of the city, yet it is possible to walk to the city center in 20 minutes or so.

Also, there were two ‘entertainment’ venues within a ten minute walk, one on Palochai Rd. I had been traveling alone and had chosen the hotel because it seemed to be both solidly middle class and close to gents entertainment places.

*** The MP down the Rd of Tohsang Hotel
I had spend my first evening in the hotel. I was both tired, it was wet season and was pouring down.

The next day, I did venture to the downtown TAT office, just to find out that the Thai government had closed down the border to Laos. I did spend some time exploring the streets and shops, then decided to walk back to the hotel. On the last few meters, I did see place on Palochai Rd that looked like an entertainment center. I decided to give it a visit later in the afternoon. The center is 200m or so down Palochai Rd from Tohsang Hotel , towards the city center.

In the evening, the place seemed to consist of a ‘pub’ with karaoke and pool tables. Next door, there was a rather large massage place, with an equally large fishbowl – and two girls. There was another two sideline girls, one pretty darker skinned dressed entirely in black and one light skinned stunner dressed very colorful who was constantly chatting on her mobile. Then there was one girl behind the counter, the papas and two rather young Thai patrons chatting and looking at the fishbowl girls.
The papasan seemed to be thrilled to see a farang – I am sure he was sure he could charge me ‘frarang’ prices. We started to chat and negogiate. I told him I was interested in the fairer skinned sideline. He started to talk to her; she was still on her mobile and seemed to be uncomfortable. In a nutshell, she did not feel comfortable to go with me – I am very tall and later it turned out her 1st Caucasian. He continuously tried to persuade her; I declined and asked about the other girl.

*** 1st evening: the dark skinned Isaan girl

Overall Rating: 7/10
Attractiveness of girl: 7/10
Quality of service: 7/10 (a bit to shy to be a 10)
What's special: GFE with a girl that increasingly was less shy
Price: 1.200 Bath (that was more than the hotel room incl breakfast!)

The dark skin Isaan girl also seemed to be concerned about that tall Caucasian chap. It also turned out that the dark skinned girl did not speak English at all. I had the impression that the papasan very much had to persuade her – he certainly was concerned about me and his ‘farang price’ leaving.

Eventually she obliged – but still seemed concerned to go with me. The room we were going with was tiny compared to some BKK places. It did have a ‘normal’ bathtub, not one of the large round Jacuzzis you would find in BKK. Also, water pressure was low and it look like it was going to take ages to fill the tub.

The good thing about both of these things was that it left me in the small room with the Isaan girl and nothing to do. Combining resources, we found a pen and paper. We started to communicate in sign language, scribbling images and she started to relax. When the tub was filled, I had explained were I was from, that I was in Ubon to go to Laos. She had explained that she was from Isaan, did not speak English and thought I was tall.

Well, nothing really new, but she seemed to be more confident. She got shy for a moment when she undressed. She also seemed to convinced that while I was tall, I deserved good treatment and she became curious. She started to wash me, wash ‘him’ and seemd to be interested in ‘him’. She also started to give me a BBBJ. We got out of the tub. She became a little concerned again before sex. She was certainly tight, but seemed to be able to relax. I was careful, she seemed curious. After I had climaxed, she pointed to the bathtub, started to wash me and kissed ‘him’.

Altogether, she seemed glad, maybe a bit proud when we came out of the room. She started to chat with the bargirl even before I had reached the door. I would really have liked to speak Thai that moment.

*** 2nd evening: the fair skinned girl

Overall Rating: 9/10
Attractiveness of girl: 10/10
Quality of service: 9/10 (a bit to shy to be a 10)
What's special: Very sweet girl with a naturally hairless pussy
Price: 1.200 Bath (that was more than the hotel room incl breakfast!)

The next evening, I decided, to try the MP again. The papasan greeted me like an old friend: I had certainly paid a farang price last evening, but then it was still cheap compared with BKK – plus, the girl had been very sweet.

The surprise was that the fair skinned girl started to look at me. She was not on the phone that second evening. I asked the papasan about her, he asked her and she agreed immediately. The two girls had talked, and apparently I had been described as a nice and neat guy.

We went to the same small room again. She seemed to be somehow proud I had chosen her. She spoke English and explained I was going to be her first Caucasian. She actually chatted a lot. She told me that she was still a uni student. I don’t know whether that was true – in a small town, everyone should have known about her side job. Her English was not great, however she DID like to chat a lot.

The only time she seemed shy was when she undressed. When she stepped into the tub, I did find out why – she did not have any pubic hair. She actually had bigger breasts than the dark skinned girl but stood in front of me with that entirely smooth, hairless pussy. To this day, I think she has been the one girl I have been with who felt ‘neatest’. She was probably Chinese, fair skinned, still petite but rather large breasts and hairless, rather tightly closed labia.

Unfortunately, she seemed rather shy about her lack of hair. I really wanted to see more, but she tried to hide. I was thinking of giving head, but it seemed impossible. Instead, she gave me a very good BBBJ. We got out of the tub; she seemed to be keen to have sex with her first Caucasian; she was able to relax; cleaned me and kissed me afterwards.

Again, she seemed a bit proud when we came out of the room. The papasan greeted me again and invited me for a free drink; my girl meanwhile was on the phone, probably to a friend – I really should learn Thai. The bargirl gave me interested looks.

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[Retired Army]

on Raynong in the South, close to Hua Hin and Burma? Not Rayong South of Pattaya.

[Freeler]

RA,

Ranong is a quiet border town in a mountainous part of Thailand. Nearby hot springs are the source for the hot water showers in some of the hotels.
The town certaily has a border town atmosphere, but is not as bustling as for instance Mai Sai.
Burmese pussy is available, but the venues where that commodity is on offer spell slavery more than sexual appetite. Virgin pussy comes at a premium, but only an idiot wants that over experienced pussy.
Three easy ways to get there:
1- Take a train to Chumpon and travel onward by local bus on the next day
2- Get an early Phuket bound aircon bus from Sai Tai and enjoy a daytime trip, arrive around 6 pm
Both trips offer grand views and pas along the Istmus of Kra, where one day a canal is supposed to be.
3- Take an early morning aircon bus from Phuket Town bus terminal.
Other option are available but are less attractive.


Freeler

[Retired Army]

Thanks for the info. My GF want's to go there to check out some retirement property.

[Diyexplorer]

About Danok

Danok is a border town located just after Sadao Immigration and Custom checkup. The bulk of the visitors are Malaysians from Penang and Kedah, who normally go there for a weekend getaway due to it's convenient location near the Thai-Malaysia border. Danok has now evolved to become a real delight for those bored with Hatyai and are looking for something new. Over the years the number of entertainment joints have grown quickly. You can find massage palours, karaokes, discos, agogo bars, pubs that are just as exciting if not better than Hatyai.

Getting There

If you are coming from Hatyai, take a minivan for about 50baht per pax. The journey takes about 45 mins. Alternatively if there is a whole group of people, then you can hire a van for a two-way journey from Hatyai to Danok and back for 1500baht.
If you going to Hatyai from Danok, just look out for a small table in front of a 7-11 shop on the main road across Oscar Palace hotel. Pay the money to the person manning the place and he will direct you to a van nearby to take you to Hatyai.

Exploring Danok

Danok is a small town where every place is just within walking distance. Therefore unlike Hatyai, you need not have to take those tuk-tuk if you want to move around. There are many hotels with rates ranging from 300 to 800baht. Most of the bigger hotels have massage parlour and karaoke joint for you to enjoy without having to step out of the hote. Danok may look dull and uninteresting in the day, but once the sun sets, it is transform into a bustling town crowded with people in most of the streets. At this time, you will find lots of pubs, bars and karaokes blaring loud music with sweet young girls beckoning passerbys to go inside for a drink.

Here is a tip on getting around in Danok. Just take Oscar Palace Hotel as a bearing. This hotel is about 100m away from the immigration checkpoint and you cannot possibly missed as it is just along the main road. On the right side of Oscar Palace are the KTV farms for booking girls, and on the left across the street are the agogo bars, pubs and discos.

Eating Places

There are little information and recommendations about eating places in Danok. Listed here are some of the few places being mentioned in the forums.

Ped Restaurant - serve chinese thai cuisine. Located at the side of Oscar Palace hotel
Fishing Park - located at the side road next to KPK hotel. Recommendation is the the fish dish - "Kin Song Pek Sat".
Breakfast - recommendation on a coffee shop behind Oliver hotel where they serve good wonton noodle with pork ribs.
Ah Yak restaurant -serve reasonable good dim sum. The curry crab dish is also recommended.
Betong Restaurant - serve good duck rice.

Hotels

There are many hotels in Danok ranging from 300 to 800baht. Some of the rates are quoted in Malaysian RM, so you have to do your conversion to thai baht here.

One of the more popular hotel is Oscar Palace. It is located about 100m from the thai immigration. Rate is RM65 for a standard room, and RM75 for a deluxe room. The deluxe room is larger with a big bath tub and there are also mirrors on the ceiling. There is also a mini-safe in the room for you to keep your valuables. The hotel has a pub on the ground floor, a KTV on the 2nd floor, and a massage palor on the 3rd floor. Good reviews have been given on their massage palor in the forums.

Other hotels are:

Oliver hotel - 690baht
He Jia hotel - 690baht. Tel:,074 301843
PJ hotel - abt 500baht
Firatel hotel - abt 500baht
IPD hotel - 500baht
YU House - RM65. Located near New York Disco. Tel: 074 301741
KPK hotel - about 150m away from Oscar Palace hotel. Rate is RM80. Feedback is that the rooms are smaller but more comfortable than Oscar Palace.
Phu Phing Hotel - new hotel which is located behind Oscar Palace. Rate is 690baht
Satit Hotel - RM38

There are also plenty of mansions within Danok. Rates ranges from 350 to 400baht a night. .Some of these mansions are located in the heart of disco, pub and ktv area. It may be convenient but can be noisy in the night. The recommended ones are Lanna Mansion (one and only Malaysian owner) and Sunny Mansion (next to Lanna). Both are located at the quiet side of town.

There are other small hotels and guest houses spotted all over the town. No information is available at the moment, although it is known that the room rates are cheap.

Massage

These are the places in Danok where you can go for thai massage and more:

1) 2nd floor of Satit hotel - provides thai massage and "extra services".

2) 3rd floor of Oscar Palace hotel - provides traditional massage at 240baht for 2 hours, If you wish to have your massage in your hotel room, the rate is 300baht. Some of the massuers offer 1000baht for ST, and 2000baht for LT.

3) Mei Spa in He Jia hotel - the package cost 600baht which include unlimited use of spa facilities and 45 mins of oil or traditional massage.

4) Satit Massage Palor - located beside Satit hotel. Here, you can ask the massuer to go to your hotel room for RM30 (2 hrs). Some massuers provide FJ for RM100.

5) Mutiara Spa - located behind Oscar Palace Hotel. Nicely decorated. The promotion price is RM 35 for two hours use of the spa and sauna, and 1 hour of oil massage.

5) KPK Massage Palor in KPK hotel - this place is new and nicely decorated too.

Night Entertainment

In Danok, the pubs, bars, and karaokes start operating from 2-3pm onwards. While the pubs, bars and karaokes have to end by 12am, discos are allowed to operate till 4am. Listed here are the night establishments that are mentioned in the forums:

TMT agogo bar- highly recommended for their strip shows. The charges is 60baht for a lady's drink, and standard tip is 100-200baht for the hostesses.

Sha-la-la - another highly recommended night joint; Lady's drink is 50baht.

Bangkok Cafe - agogo dancers, young hostesses available to sit with you. Overnight booking is available.

Spider - highly recommended in the forums. It is an agogo bar where the girls dances either half or fully naked. It has a disco atmosphere and it is so crowded especially during weekends that you literally have to squeeze yourselves in this place. There is a variety of dance shows here and the dancers usually stripped down fully. They have almost 50 SYT dancers rotating throughout the night. These dancers usually rotate among several joints in Betong, Hadyai and even Bangkok. Most dancer from Spider don't accept booking from customers. Only those hostesses who accompany customer for drinking are available for booking. But do note that the hostesses here are quite aggressive. If you don’t want them to sit with you, just reject them straightaway or they will assume that you want them to be with you

Chaborn - located just beside Spider where the waitresses are in bikini with dozen of topless dancers on stage.

Bar Berry Cabaret

Blueberry pub - located beside Paragon disco. Operate somewhat like Spider.

Note:
When you are ordering your beer in any of the joints, do tell them what size bottle you want besides the number of bottles, as they will assume that you want the large size.
When any of the hostesses or waitresses offer to shake hand with you,don't shake their hands but instead shake your head if you don't want them to sit with you. If you shake hands with them and they sit with you, then you are expected to buy them lady's drink.
Also prepare plenty of small notes like RM2 or 20baht, as all the employees in these joints expect to be tipped.

Paragon disco - Paragon Danok is located about 5-10 minutes walk from the agogo bars. Although the place is smaller than Paragon Hatyai, it has similar deco including the large a large projector screen on the front and heavy techno bass speakers beside it.
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Dragon disco - located behind Oscar Palace hotel.

New York disco - located near YU house.

Note: It has been observed that many patrons take drugs like ecstasy and yaba openly especially in the discos. If you are uncomfortable with these things, you are advised to stay away from such places. You are also strongly adviced to stay away from drugs as police raids are not uncommon.

Karaokes

There are plenty of karaokes in Danok where SYTs beckons. Quality varies, and ST services are also offered. The best time to recce the farms is 2pm. Unlike Hatyai, you need not need to take a tuk-tuk to tour the farms, as the area within walking distance from most of the hotels.

The rates are:
Short time (ST) - about 500 - 1000bht
Long time (LT) - 1500 to 2000 (thai girl), 2500 - 3000baht for thai chinese and new arrivals

In general, the girls are fairer and better looking than those in Hatyai. A lot of them are very young too. The prettier ones will start to appear on the streets and outside of cafes and KTVs during evening time. If you are not desperate, it may worth your while to wait till night time.

Warning: to prevent yourself being ripped off, only go to establishments like KTVs, bars, and even hotel (eg Mei Spa inside He-Jia Hotel where price quoted 3000 baht) to book your girls. If anyone approaches you on motorbike or car, ignore them. They are probably out to con you, regardless of whether they are Malaysians or Thais.

Here is the list of KTVs that are mentioned in the forums, which you may want to check out when you are there.

Mida KTV
Minnal KTV
Pinky KTV
Honey KTV
Rose KTV
Mutiara KTV
Febuch KTV
Rinda Karaoke - located in front of Satit hotel

Reminder: Always practice safe sex at all times and use a condom.

Beware of Con and Scam

An alert have been posted in one of the forums regarding an unpleasant experience one member had in Danok. There is this pimp in Danok by the name of Sam whose handphone number is +666329918. He quoted a price of RM220 for 4 hours of service to this forum member. However after only 2 hours, the girl wanted to leave. Apparently the pimp (Sam) had told the girl that the customer only paid for 2 hours. The girl even say that for the price of RM220, it is actually an overnight rate. The pimp (Sam) had clearly misled him. So please be wary of this person.

In another posting, members are advised against booking girls from a particular joint at Soi 8 located at the back of Oscar Palace Hotel. This joint is next to a 24-hour convenient shop called V-shop. Unfortunately, the name of this joint is not mention. What has been alleged is that the girls in this joint will disappear after a while in your hotel room. The pimp of this joint will not entertain any complains from customers..

Precaution You Need to Take

Note the handphone number of the captain or pimp and contact them immediately if you have a problem with the girl you got from the joint. Never trust any pimp who does not have their own joint, or belong to any establishment.

If you decide to take those freelancers, do take care of your valuables as there are many incidents of theft. Do not leave them alone. Always be on your guard even if you are taking your shower alone.

One of the way to spot a girl who may disappear on you is to see whether she comes to your room with only her handbag. If she does, then you have to be particularly cautious of her doing a disappearing act later. If she brought a bag with her pyjamas in it, then it is likely that she is prepared to stay the night with you.

Avoid all kinds of drugs and do take note whether the girl you have booked display symptoms of a drug abuser. Ask for a change, or let her go even if you can't get a replacement.

Last but not least, always practice safe sex and use a condom.


PS: Should there be any inaccuracies in the above information, kindly share it in this forum. Thanks

Diyexplorer

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[Saint Jack]

Hello bros,

I am a new comer and planning a short trip to Chiang Mai this weekend. Will appreciate recommendation on where to pick up gals other than the bars near night bazar.

Have read report on Nimmanhemin Soi 13 and may check it out; any other place to suggest will be appreciated.

Any place with young part timers like univ students?

[ThaiVisitor]

Bombing spree in Thailand's South kills 2

Bangkok (dpa) - More than a dozen bombs were set off simultaneously Thursday at banks in Yala and Betong cities, two commercial centres in Thailand's troubled deep South, killing at least two people and injuring 20, officials said.

"There were 10 explosions at 11:30 a.m. [0430 GMT] at banks in Yala and another five at banks in Betong, which killed at least two people," said Army Colonel Somkuan Saengpattalanate, spokesman for the Southern Peacekeeping Command.

Yala, the capital of Yala province, has been the target of such attacks in the past, but it was the first time that separatists had attacked Betong, a city also in Yala province best known for its booming prostitution industry catering to Malaysian-Chinese.
"The details are still unclear," Somkuan said in a telephone interview with Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

Army intelligence officials have been warning civilians in Thailand's three southernmost, majority-Muslim provinces - Narathiwat, Pattanai and Yala - of possible terrorist acts on Thursday, which marks National Day in neighbouring Malaysia.

Such simultaneous terrorist attacks in the deep South, where more than 1,300 people have died from violence over the past two and a half years, have become increasingly common as the region's separatist movement attempts to demonstrate its unity and resilience, authorities said.

The three provinces have been under emergency rule since October, allowing security authorities to arrest suspects without charges, impose bans on public gatherings and other draconian measures.

Thailand's deep South has been gripped by a simmering separatist movement for decades. The area, once an independent Islamic sultanate called Pattani, was first conquered by Bangkok in 1786 but only came under the direct rule of the Thai bureaucracy in 1902.

Pattani's separatist struggle has been fuelled by the local population's sense of religious and cultural alienation from the predominantly Buddhist Thai state. More than 80 per cent of the 2 million people in the three-province region describe themselves as Muslims.

Source - Bangkok Post 31 Aug 2006

[Member #2041]

Hello bros,

I am a new comer and planning a short trip to Chiang Mai this weekend. Will appreciate recommendation on where to pick up gals other than the bars near night bazar.

Have read report on Nimmanhemin Soi 13 and may check it out; any other place to suggest will be appreciated.

Any place with young part timers like univ students?

You might try to RTFF and in particular, the thread entitled "Chiang Mai".

I wonder why it's named that?

[Vodkakick]

About Danok[/blue][/size]Diyexplorer,

This is definately the best report or infomation that i ever come across for Danok. It really make me feel like i need to be there by tonite. Anyway, thanks. I definately will plan a trip there. :)

[Phuket]

I must travel up to Yasothon early October. has anyone have information on any action up there please.

[Vodkakick]

Last weekend feeling really lonely, so decided to pay danok a visit after reading so many report on this amazing place. Drove to BKH, stop my car at the duty free shop. Then proceed to Thai immigration. After check point straight go to Oscar Hotel. But too bad it was full house, am I too late, maybe, because when I pass the border already 5pm. And maybe UUM convo, so lots of cheonger staying over nite in Danok.

So after spending some time searching, finally fond Phu Ping Hotel. Rate was 590bath only. So checked in, immediately went to Oscar to choose a lady for massage. In the massage house, at least packed with 40-50 WL. After some search, found a quite good looking lady #49. So pick her, then went back to hotel together. The massage was good, just that suffer some language barrier, as she only know Thai and Hokkien, and my hokkien is half tong water. But still I able to understand her message near end of massage, which is help me to batin because 400bath. Well, since she is quite good looking, so I just agreed. But a bit disappointed was she didn't allow roaming. Anyway to cut short, end the event 2. 5 hr including massage.

After that, 9pm already. Went out for dinner, then proceed to agogo bar. Was in spider, but not sure what happened, Spider not much show nor exciting in the pub. So stop over to next pub Chaburn, a lot of gems. Not long in there, 3 to 4 gals stand surrounding me. Some asking for lady drinks. One gal even offer me her big boobs. To be honest, I really not good in handling too many gals at a same time, also the gals were very pushy. End up 1/2 hr stop rob me 1000bath. Finally fade up with the gals keep asking for tips. Cabut from the place. A piece of advice, must put up serious face to some of the gals, otherwise they tot you are "lulu and robert".

When exit from Chaburn was 10pm. Then only I start look for LT gals. I think day was late some more raining, most of the KTV left only few choice. End up picking a gal in KTV nears left lorong of Oscar hotel (if you facing Oscar). The gal was from Laos. She was quite good looking but body is so so only. We went to Dragon disco, she kept touching my little bro and took my hand to careless her. The feeling was great. But after disco, when we went back to hotel, her attitude started to change, quite resist to take off her bra, which a bit turn me off. The 2nd exercise near morning, 5am, I wake her up and careless her until she can't tahan, beg me wear umbrella to bonk her. After the show, not sure if she didn't have enough sleep or what, she was not happy told me want to go back early. I am truly angry already, I just ignore her continue sleep. Wake up 10am, she was still there sleeping (but face turn other side not facing me, like a quarrel couple). WTF, just left some tips to her then checked out from room.

After check out, went to last joint Multira spa (at the back of Oscar Hotel). Like some bro described, the deco is good. Over there I pick a new comer from Burma for old massage. (Emmm. The whole trip in keep picking non-Thai lady, not sure why I come to thailand: P). Her name is May. The massage was so so only, since I am her first customer, she just arrived danok three days ago. But she like to talk, so I am quite happy with her. End of the massage, request to bonk her. After some negotiation of price, go for action. It was a lovely session. She had quite sometime never had s*x. Keep mounting but quitely (cos this Multira room is built with bamboo, next door can easily hear you), the whole event was just exciting. I would strongly recommend this place. End of the massage, cross the border came back to Malaysia.

Well this was a mix trip with good and bad stuff. Will I return, well at moment I cross border I said this is last visit. But after a nite, I started to change my mine, I bet I will be back. And then I will equipped with better preparation:)

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[Henry R]

I expect to spend a few days on the island of Ko Samet, which is east of Pattaya, in November. I have read that there is very little bargirl action in Ko Samet and we should bring our own girls there. Has the situation gotten any better? Any advice or suggestions, including specific details, such as names and location of bars and places, which beach they are located on, quality of the girls, and prices of the girls, do they do all nite or only short time, hotels or cottages to stay at, etc. would be appreciated.

[Dinghy]

I expect to spend a few days on the island of Ko Samet, which is east of Pattaya, in November. I have read that there is very little bargirl action in Ko Samet and we should bring our own girls there. Has the situation gotten any better? Any advice or suggestions, including specific details, such as names and location of bars and places, which beach they are located on, quality of the girls, and prices of the girls, do they do all nite or only short time, hotels or cottages to stay at, etc. would be appreciated.

No offense Henry - but if you are EAST of Pattaya, you are in the "dirt" - the water is WEST (whch is why there are some nice sunset pix looking across the bay - but I knew what yu meant)

[Ozirob]

I was there for a few nights 2 weeks ago, with my regular from Bangkok. So i have to say up front that i was very very occupied and happy, and not paying attention to other possibilities!

However, i did eat and drink my way along every bar at the Ao Wong Duan beach, and didn't notice anything else happening. Everyone was with someone already.

I would say You probably should not risk going there without someone to keep you entertained when you are not on the beach with a beer.

Ozirob

[Henry R]

No offense Henry - but if you are EAST of Pattaya, you are in the "dirt" - the water is WEST (whch is why there are some nice sunset pix looking across the bay - but I knew what yu meant)

I just looked at a map. The water is west and south of Pattaya. Ko Samet is southeast of Pattaya. I put in the location so people would not confuse Ko Samet with Ko Samui.

By the way, how expensive would it be to bring a bargirl from Pattaya to Ko Samet for a few days? Any suggestions?

[Dinghy]

i just looked at a map. the water is west and south of pattaya. ko samet is southeast of pattaya. i put in the location so people would not confuse ko samet with ko samui.

by the way, how expensive would it be to bring a bargirl from pattaya to ko samet for a few days? any suggestions?

depending, i would guess 1000b/day (barfine extra maybe). if you are going to an orgy, bring your own grapes huh? it's a park out there on the island so availability of companionship is probably limited. that's the island south off rayong iirc. yes, the coastline goes southeast from sattahip all the way down to the cambo border - and if yu fly you could get to water by going directly "south" from pattaya but that's not the conventional "direction" of "east" go east from pattaya and you go "inland" which is what i meant. geography doesn't matter all that much here anyway

[Kurt1962]

I am planning to travel to Thailand next February. I have not been to Hua Hin so far and would like to get some information concerning accommodation (girl friendly) there.

[Opebo]

Breaking news - the thriving brothel sois of Udon Thani, which I can confirm first hand were wide open last weekend, are now closed. Driving down Soi Three is an experience so depressing I can only hope other mongers read this before suffering it themselves. It is closed up so tightly one would never know it had been there! The noodle soup man plying his trade there said it is gone for good.

Soi Saow Fie Dang is limping along even more secretly than before, and one no longer recieves any offers of entrance from the touts. When I practically begged them for a girl, and they recogized me as a regular, I was allowed in only to find far fewer girls than before, and of course more customers.

Soi Seven is also completely closed - every single house. However there are a few touts lingering near the two short time hotels on the soi, who will bring you a couple of girls to look at from a secret location. Alas they were charging 500 baht plus 200 for the short time room, a far cry from the 300 on offer at Soi Three during the good old days of just a week ago. Also the two girls I tried via this complicated and unpleasant system were not impressive either in terms of appearance or in service.

I must confess, fellow mongers, a certain discouragement. Perhaps it is unmanly, but there it is. It seems every time I visit one of the wonders of the world - K11, Pattaya Beach Road, and now the brothel sois of Udon Thani - they are soon shut down by the Forces of Social Control. No doubt many mongers have felt this way before, as we are always a hunted, persecuted group. At least I can say I saw these amazing places before they were destroyed.

[Meaty]

....the thriving brothel sois of Udon Thani, which I can confirm first hand were wide open last weekend, are now closed.....Alas they were charging 500 baht plus 200 for the short time room, a far cry from the 300 on offer at Soi Three....Excellent News, what with this and the new visa regs, the types that need to stoop to these levels will soon be moving on to pastures new.

[RCA Knight]

The Udon and Nong Khai ladyhouses opening and closing is quite normal. They can even close for a day and then sudden be full blown the next evening.

I can say almost all of the girls are there on their own will, and they can go home any time they like. Actually they are making quite good money and many building house for their families back in Laos. For 300 bahts type, the girls get 200. If they have 10 clients a day, it will be 2000 bahts. This is a huge money for them in Laos. On weekends they can have up to 15 or even more a day.

I have chatted with many of these girls, I can say they are there to make money on their own will. Some don't like it, then they go home. The ladyhouses there are not like in Cambodia. There is no human traffking involved. They don't lock up these girls girls. The girls are free to roam the streets in Udon or Nong Khai.

I personally think the closing is again temporary. It has been closed so many times in the past, espeacilly when there is a new boss in charge. Then its a matter of time when both parties reach the"mutual benifits", then all things back to normal. But once a while they will stage some crack down for media purposes. I think after a few days, all things back to normal.

Whenever is closed, there are lots of pimps on the streets or every tuk tuk driver will arrange for you private viewing.

[Meaty]

....I have chatted with many of these girls, I can say they are there to make money on their own will. Some don't like it, then they go home. The ladyhouses there are not like in Cambodia. There is no human traffking involved. They don't lock up these girls girls. The girls are free to roam the streets in Udon or Nong Khai.... I've read/heard several different versions of these places in Udon now, yours is the first that says they maintain their freedom, but i've always found the content of your posts to be accurate in the past and on that basis have no reason to doubt you. Thanks for your view.

[Opebo]

I have just returned from a three day search of Ubon and Sisaket. I had hoped that the few reports on this forum, which suggested that little was to be found there were not definitive. Alas my own search tended to confirm them.

In Ubon we asked numerous tuk-tuk and samlor drivers for where to find the reasonably priced girls, and in particular any 'ladyhouses' which the Thai men use in most Thai towns. They repeatedly took as back to the same pair of kareokes located in the northwest part of the old city. I don't recall the name of the street but any tuk-tuk will take you there. I generally hate a kareoke more than any other venue, but these were very down-market, so that it appeared to be acceptable to simply drive up and ask the girls to hop in; no need to enter, listen to bad music, and buy unwanted, overprice drinks. I took the least bad-looking of them for 500 baht short time, but back at her room she insisted on a condom, so I left without doing or paying anything.

There also appear to be higher end places around town. We found one on a street just north of the park, paralleling the main north south street (Chayangul?). We pulled up around 2:00AM but the place still seemed to be open in a shadowy way. It was of course a kareoke, but the a couple of decent looking girls were hanging about outside and they said the short time rate was 1200-1300 baht. Obviously we declined.

Our hotelier had stated that there were providers 'around the park, late', but we discovered the reason for her chuckle - they were not women. Apparently there are no lady houses or any reasonably priced venue in Ubon, or the Thais were unwilling to share their location with us. We ended the night unrequited.

The next day we fled in desperation via the lovely Thai train service to Sisaket, which was at least far more picaresque than modern Ubon. Hotels near the train station can be had for 120-250 baht! Alas another night of intense searching found only the dreadful kareokes again. At one we were robbed of 410 baht for two beers, a coke, and 20 minutes sitting pointlessly with a pair of 30ish women! After that we only entered these places to ask their short time rate. The first clip joint had offered it at 500 baht, but all the subsequent ones wanted 1200-1500, an astounding rate for a poor backwater town, and highly dubious.

Finally we befriended the night staff at the train station, and asked them where to go, and they directed us to the other end of the platform, where a few very aged and horrible looking ladies were available for 200-300 baht. We declined, but found a few girls in their early 20's around the front of the station - I took a slightly pregnant one for a 300 baht round back at the hotel. Miserable BBBJ (as one usually finds in Thailand outside the tourist areas), but good BBFS with creampie.

My friend took one I did not see after I had gone, but he reported that she was so bad that she gave up trying to service him and tried to leave (he had only requested a handjob!). Unfortunately he had made the newbies mistake of paying beforehand, and when he demanded the 200 baht back, she refused. A small argument ensued, and eventually he allowed her to leave, but happily found that she had dropped the 200 baht on the floor when she tried to put it in her pocket!

These girls were nothing special, but mine was very reasonable looking for 300 baht, and provided reasonable service. They did say that the selection was particularly bad that weekend because of the holiday - apparently Monday is a Thai holiday of some sort. Perhaps there would be more on offer at another time. It seems hard to believe that there is no ordinary venue for non-wealthy Thai men in either Ubon or Sisaket - perhaps others will enlighten us.

[Martians]

In Ubon we asked numerous tuk-tuk and samlor drivers for where to find the reasonably priced girls.

The next day we fled in desperation via the lovely Thai train service to Sisaket, which was at least far more picaresque than modern Ubon. Hotels near the train station can be had for 120-250 baht! Alas another night of intense searching found only the dreadful kareokes again. At one we were robbed of 410 baht for two beers, a coke, and 20 minutes sitting pointlessly with a pair of 30ish women! After that we only entered these places to ask their short time rate. The first clip joint had offered it at 500 baht, but all the subsequent ones wanted 1200-1500, an astounding rate for a poor backwater town, and highly dubious.

Finally we befriended the night staff at the train station, and asked them where to go, and they directed us to the other end of the platform, where a few very aged and horrible looking ladies were available for 200-300 baht. We declined, but found a few girls in their early 20's around the front of the station - I took a slightly pregnant one for a 300 baht round back at the hotel. Miserable BBBJ (as one usually finds in Thailand outside the tourist areas), but good BBFS with creampie. Obepo: I have enjoyed your posts on the FiteLite thread. I apologise for the low level attacks on you. Your Udon reports were especially appreciated.

Some points:

1. The train stations are generally where it is at, just like most places world wide. Always check train stations. Loiter, walk to the quiet spots, you will see them and they will see you.

2. Cheap hotels near train stations are obvious slapper hangouts. Loiter, check out nearby markets in Si Saket, always loitering, walking slowly, playing Mr Innocent. The good carp are there, waiting to be fed.

3. Please note you volunteered 300 baht more or less up front. This is good money to them and hard money for a horny guy on an Isaan wage. It puts other prices into perspective.

4. There are great fucks in Isaan if you play the game right. There are also awful ones as you discovered. Being a slapper is not for everyone.

5. I expect Freeler to appear on the scene soon with tales of Old Faithful, the well known Si Saket "gee-ser", who shoots water miles into the air.

6. Top market there is rip offs ville as guys with cash will have all the pussy they can imagine.

7. Next time, try Buriram. These are heavy duty fuck towns. They do not really cater to the Club Gitmo type crowd. But they are all the better for it. They make you appreciate the simple things like the money in your pocket and the dick in your pants all the more.

[Old Thai Hand]

o****

all i can say is, sohm nahm naa.

the "thai holiday of some sort" was chulalongkhorn day in honour of the great king, rama v. you travel here all the time, and you're so ignorant of the place, it astounds me.

[Opebo]

1. The train stations are generally where it is at, just like most places world wide. Always check train stations. Loiter, walk to the quiet spots, you will see them and they will see you.

7. Next time, try Buriram. These are heavy duty fuck towns.

Thanks, Martians. Just a follow up question. You recommend Buriram - is the train station the main place for action there as well? How does Surin compare with SiSaket?


3. Please note you volunteered 300 baht more or less up front. This is good money to them and hard money for a horny guy on an Isaan wage. It puts other prices into perspective.

Oh I'm well aware 300 baht is excellent money, which is one reason I'm so scandalized by other places quoting 1,000-1,500. However I did not volunteer 300 - I only agreed to it after trying for 20 minutes to get her for the more 'correct' price of 200. I think she knew she was the best girl out that night (not saying much), so she held out for the extra hundred.

[Opebo]

i have just completed a 24 hour search of buriram, where i found very little. the train station contained only about half a dozen prostitutes, and all were of about the same leve - not absolutely horrible, but certainly not 'doable'. in contrast to the sisaket situation, where there were slightly more girls, and while most of them were spectacularly horrific, two or three were doable twenty-somethings. i was surprised and disappointed to find such a small number at buriram train station. to top it all off one old lady of around 45 ridiculously quoted 500 baht as her price. i walked away. strange!

a lad sitting on his motorbike outside the station advised us to try 'speed', which fueled our hopes until we arrived and found it was a disco! what a waste of time. we merely looked in the door and saw it was not for us - packed with males and 'regular girls', complete with loud music. a wasteland. out on the street again a fat woman with a young, cute girl on the back of her bike pulled alongside us, suggesting we accompany them to a kareoke. we did, in spite of the powerful dread a kareoke inspires in the reasonable occidental monger.

happily when we arrived we found extremely low-end looking places, so much so that most did not even have the horrible music playing. just third rate girls sitting around. this strip contains about four or five such establishments, on the west side of town. there are maybe 3 or 4 good looking girls there, and as many more who have a certain appeal - not good looking, but tempting in some way. one quite fat girl at the furthest along the strip was ideal for lovers of big bottoms, and she seemed very nice. however she would not agree to 300, so we moved on. if one must pay 500, one must find a reasonable looker.

finally we each took, in turn, the same girl from one of the middle shops. she was about 20, nice looking, and very vivacious. i think she was rather proud that she got all the custom while the rest sat idle. after my friend's session, she returned to take me to her room.

he reported he had broken two condoms with her, which i thought odd. in the room it became clear why - as i probed her depths, i found it was slightly painful. she had some hard, scratchy surfaces in there! have any of you mongers every encountered such a thing? i do not know what might cause this, but i would recommend a visit to the gynocologist. happily after a nice creampie i withdrew to find myself uninjured.

all in all, buriram is a rather abysmal town for mongering. the selection was very small, and the prices not exceptionally low. just as in sisaket, all the moto and tuktuk drivers claimed there were no 'ladyhouses', and merely directed us to the lame kareokes.

on to surin.

[Brain666]

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I took a slightly pregnant one for a 300 baht round back at the hotel. Miserable BBBJ (as one usually finds in Thailand outside the tourist areas), but good BBFS with creampie.

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These girls were nothing special, but mine was very reasonable looking for 300 baht, and provided reasonable service. They did say that the selection was particularly bad that weekend because of the holiday - apparently Monday is a Thai holiday of some sort. Perhaps there would be more on offer at another time. It seems hard to believe that there is no ordinary venue for non-wealthy Thai men in either Ubon or Sisaket - perhaps others will enlighten us.

Brrrrr, can't imagine to put my Dick for creampie BB into some countryside half attractive pussy serving that style to everybody.
Unbelievable. Wasn't it already creampied before? Let's say half dry?

Its rock bottom P4P, but I must admit that it probably has its share under the ISG members.

brrr

Brain666

[Thai Viking]

He reported he had broken two condoms with her, which I thought odd. In the room it became clear why - as I probed her depths, I found it was slightly painful. She had some hard, scratchy surfaces in there! Have any of you mongers every encountered such a thing? I do not know what might cause this, but I would recommend a visit to the gynocologist. Happily after a nice creampie I withdrew to find myself uninjured. Yes, I have experienced similar, but not in Los. It was that time caused by a tampon. First I just thought she was exstremely thight, and I didn't notice it before the thing had scratched through my condom. It feels exactly as you describe, and I was sore and couldn't engage sex for days afterwards.

[Old Thai Hand]

Its rock bottom P4P, but I must admit that it probably has its share under the ISG members.Brain666


Hey, Bottom-feeders need love too. =-)

[Retired Army]

He reported he had broken two condoms with her, which I thought odd. In the room it became clear why - as I probed her depths, I found it was slightly painful. She had some hard, scratchy surfaces in there! Have any of you mongers every encountered such a thing? I do not know what might cause this, but I would recommend a visit to the gynocologist. Happily after a nice creampie I withdrew to find myself uninjured.


On to Surin.

Sounds like scabs to me.

My wife is fron Surin and I can tell you that there isn't much to be found there.

[Brain666]

Hey, Bottom-feeders need love too. =-)

Thats why finally I tolerate it. No flame was intended. Just my Brrrr

regards

Brain666

[Opebo]

i have now given surin the once-over. my first impression of the town was that it is the biggest of the buriram/surin/sisaket trio, which surprised me. i had always been led to believe buriram was biggest, followed by sisket, with surin being the smallest. not so. generally speaking buriram gives off an impression of poverty, surin of relative prosperity, while sisaket seems to take on back in time to the thailand of an earlier day. it is truly a big old fashioned farm-town.

arriving by train, i chose the 'new hotel' just to the right of surin station. like most hotels in lower isaan, it was a good deal. 190 baht for a big, clean fan room with hot water, western stool, and bum gun. one a side note, avoid the restaurant in front of this hotel - twice as expensive as normal isaan restaurants for unexeptional quality. we spent 520 baht for 3 dishes and two beers! can't help but wonder if we were cheated.

my friend stayed at the sang thong hotel just a long block further away from the station. this hotel is worth noting for the monger because they very kindly order girls to your room for 500 baht short time, and the quality was not uniformly bad. one may need to impress upon the procuress that one wants under 25 and attractive, or one may simply turn away the first batch of 35-40's that show up, as i did. i did take one girl ordered in this fashion back to my hotel - a cute but strikingly fanged 23 year old, but alas she refused bareback and left, both of us unsatified (she financially, myself sexually). my friend's choice was, he said, a bit too old at nearly 40, but a performer. it is rare in thailand one finds a girl willing to perform a bbbj for anything over a few minutes.

lastly, from around 1:00 am till very late at night motorcycle girls will drive up to a farang if he is standing at the front of this hotel, some of them coming into the lobby to hunt. we also noted some more attractive girls loitering in the hotel parking lot, but they were very unfriendly to us, and another more attractive girl arriving to immediately go upstairs with a thai. it seems there may be a class of provider that prefers thai custom to farangs.

i did explore the far end of the surin train station at around 7:00 in the evening, and did find several girls there. i took the cutest one, a slightly thick very kmer looking girl, for 300 baht. she acquiesced to bareback, and then to anal. alas, she was a starfish, and rather bovine. i didn't manage to find satisfaction, and very slightly messed my bed! (another reason to always use a short time room.)

around midnight i took a fat woman from the train station who seemed to have a cheerful demeanor. we agreed to 300 for bareback and anal. on the walk back to the room i realized she was drunk and almost cut her loose - i dislike drunks. i wish i had because back at the room she was very difficult, demanding payment in advance - something i never do. we had a little argument, but nothing serious. essentially she seemed to think she should be paid for nothing, or in other words hoped to bully me out of 200-300 baht. i managed to stand firm and get her to leave my room with nothing.

the frightening part was this - later that night i saw her with a dude, and she called out 'hello'. i ignored her, but 30 minutes later while in the shower i heard a knock at the door. i peered out the peephole and some fellow was putting his thumb over it! i could see him move it slightly, and at one point he lost connection and it could be seen that he was her pal. he said something in thai, and i called out 'mai dai, bah' - i'm not sure of the exact meaning but it has something to do with no, not, cannot, and/or go. in any case he went, and though my door had a deadbolt lock as well as the usual inside bolt, i went to bed feeling very nervous. one can only assume they intended me violent harm!

one definitely feels less safe in isaan than, for example, pattaya or bangkok.

we also went to a kareoke, but took nothing. we could only find one in town, located next to the bus station. interestingly they claimed the place was open 24 hours, only turning the music and lights down from 2:00 to 3:30 am, and that the police in town took a lenient view of closing times - very unusual in isaan. i suppose that may explain the slightly higher level of prostitution available. certainly the best of the three lower issan towns. all three were frustrating and disappointing in some way, but i have to admit i did get sex in all three for 300-500 baht.

[Old Thai Hand]

I called out 'Mai Dai, Bah' - I'm not sure of the exact meaning but it has something to do with no, not, cannot, and/or go.


If you did indeed say, "Mai dai, bah", (cannot, crazy) rather than "mai dai, pai" (cannot, go), you're lucky he didn't kick the door down. Also, rest assured that lurking in the shadows were a couple of his mates. Thai blokes, when confronted with a Farang they mean to fuck over, usually travel in packs.

If you plan to travel to the hinterland in search of low-priced pussy, learn to speak Thai or better yet, Isaan to save yourself some grief.

[Opebo]

If you did indeed say, "Mai dai, bah", (cannot, crazy) rather than "mai dai, pai" (cannot, go), you're lucky he didn't kick the door down. Also, rest assured that lurking in the shadows were a couple of his mates. Thai blokes, when confronted with a Farang they mean to fuck over, usually travel in packs.

If you plan to travel to the hinterland in search of low-priced pussy, learn to speak Thai or better yet, Isaan to save yourself some grief.

Actually it was my natural wariness and cowardice which saved me grief in this case, OTH. That and the fine, solid, well bolted door between me and however many were outside. Linguistic skills would not have helped particularly.

The simple lesson is - and it is a good one - that one should never, ever bring a girl back to one's room. Always use a short time room, or her room. This has always been my policy in the past, and will be so again from now on.

I have a question for the Other Areas forum: Can anyone report whether the Udon Thani houses remain closed or have they reopened? Or failing that any news from Nong Kai's houses.

[That Asshole]

south thai shopping trip - second half + maps

had yai
the second bigest thai town and the best of the south. a real joy. the friendliest people. lots of good food. lots of meat. cheap. and no crowds!

transport:
from songkla buses run every 10 minutes. from the malaysian border minibuses run every half an hour to had yai(4 hrs). also minibuses from naratiwat and pattani. the main transport center is the bks station just south of town. a moto there is 20 b or tuk-tuk 30b. from the bks bus terminal either there is a large scheduled bu to your destination or alternatively the many travel agents just next door can call a minibus for you who will pick you up from there within an hour.

train: the station is in central siti, convenient to walk to. many trains to bkk or south.

local transport: the usual moto, tuk-tuk or metered taxi selection, but really you can walk most everywhere.

hotel: the main road leading up to the train station is lined with guest houses and cheap hotels from 300b and up. on weekends however rooms are scarce because of the malaysian sex-tourists.

meat: the limp lady (i like this name) massage is reasonable value for 1350/165b as lots of ther meat is very pretty. however there are lots more options: chayakun and tanratnakon roads a good start after dark, but even early afternoon. (-and yes, these streetnames are correct, as far as i know it-)

in the evening the street behing the railway line comes to life, esp. around soi 6 (rajutit rd). there are also many hotels there. others have written a lot about had yai in the applicable section. the good thing is you need no help of thai men here. they are used to foreigners.

other things to do:
this is a very interesting town. very chinese in character, like penang. lots of chinese restaurants and the night market is good too. it's fun to get lost in the backstreets, there are lots of little markets, old buildings and chinese temples. and the people are very friendly. not many dogs but the motorbikes are a real danger.

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satun
just a hop from hadyai, a very quiet little town and the locals are not overly friendly. there is a night's entertainment in some meaty karaokes, esp. around the palace hotel but this town can be easily bypassed at all, no great loss.

transport:
big buses run every half an hour from had yai bus station, 2hrs trip/100km/70b. same for trang. there is also a direct bus to krapi and phuket. all buses stop on the street of palace hotel.

hotels:
just a few, but more than enough for the few tourists. all are crappy and one expensive.

meat: see above. very scarce but there is some. you will need local help.

other things to do:
the port where the boats to malaysia (langkawi) leave from might be worth a look. as well as the nearby coastal town of lan ngoo which has a beach.

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trang
an interesting, clean but very spread out siti. surely has meat. see below.

transport:
there is a central train station but as it is a sideline, only 4 trains daily each direction. the main bus station is north of town, 2km. you can walk there or a moto is 20 b. aircon buses half hourly to krabi 2 hrs, phuket 5hrs, had yai 3hrs.

hotel: just a few but few tourists as well. marked on the map. rooms from 200-500 and an expensive for 1500b.

meat:
apart from a soapy massage there is a bordello north-east of the train station. the fare is 1000b/1hr for foreigners, rooms are clean, many girls. it's quite nice with many bungalows in a garden setting. the cheap knocking shops are not far away for 2-300b for 30min. as the town is very spread out you will need a good driver who knows all these. there always many on the street leading to the railway. fortunately the locals are a very friendly lot and you should be treated well.

other things to do:
the night market is super, just a few steps north of the cocktower. there are some nice parks in town some with lake where you can feed fish. except everything is so fucking faaaaar.

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krapi
quite a nice town, still not totally destroyed by tourists. worth a few days stay.

transport: no train. the main bus station is 4 km from town. a regular songtaew runs there for 12b. has buses everywhere. for local transport and around you can take songtahaew which pick up on the street parallel with the river. blue color:airport. red color:bus station, white color ao nang. i might have mixed them up but it is all written on them in english.
this is also where you catch boat to phiphi and kolanta. boat office is in town, at the waterfront.

hotels: the whole town is just hotels.

meat: no farang bars in town. those are in ao nang, opposite the seaview resort. the usual pattaya stuff. however, there is lots of meat, on soi11 maharat st and around, starting from 500b and up. the girls for 1500 are very pretty. you can walk there but maybe still better if you go with a local like a moto driver, though.

other things to do:
lots indeed. visit the tiger cave, the shell beach, ao nang. there is also a superb large park near town. might be the best public park in thailand.
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some stories:
filled by sperm up to the limit arrived back from koh pangan ( especially had rin). lots of backpacker cunts, bareing all they could. on the backpacker boat loaded with ****, lying all over the ship in their tiny bikinies (or not even that!). i had to go twice during the 3 hour trip to jerk off in the toilet. it's quite spacious and clean inside so no probs at all. but there was always a long queue waiting outside.

imagine having your own private yacht cruising through the tropical caribbeans, with meat all over the deck. it's like that, except even better. it must be experienced to believe. btw you won't be the only old guy there lurking. you will see them everywhere wandering alone or in pairs. fuck, it is not illegal. and as long as you are not too intrusive they really can't say a word.

also, it is entertaining to watch the young boys licking ass so keenly and outcompeting each other in the vague hope of getting 'free' meat. well, can't blame them. they are young and very receptive to what their feminist teachers tell them back at home. they in fact spend more on their haircut and a new shirt for a 'free' fuck than a sex-tourist buys good quality meat for.

so, from the ferry terminal i got a through bus further down south, deep-deep in south thailand. arrived around 7 in the evening. checked in to a cheap hotel. noticed a very pretty receptionist girl who smiled very well and handed the key over with her right hand (more about 'hands' later). i tried as much as i could to totally ignore her (as not to spoil her with too much interest).

the bellboy carried my pack up the stairs. i made it a point to chat a bit with him, asking where he was originally from and whether he liked working here, etc. later, i found the night-market nearby for a good feed. they have nice muslim roti here with curry for 30 baht (75 cents).


also noticed about 5 or 6 little shops in our neighbourhood with bright red fluoro lights outside. hmm, what were they? summoned the bellboy, asking whether those red-light shops were what i thought. he answered in the positive with a wide grin "yes sir, massage, phum-phum" (they seem to call boom-boom that way here). gave him 20 baht and asked him to organize some activity quickly. he tried to push the issue of sending them to my room which i declined. because i no like women in my room and also it is better if i go, look and choose.


he asked me to wait 5 minutes while he called the shop indicating mr farang's arrival (and discuss the price i was sure). soon he came back and we just walked a few meters to the nearest shop. it didn't look very much from the outside but inside we found 5 girls to choose from. not just any ordinary fuckers as i expected but 2 of them were absolutely beautiful lookers. i tried hard not to seem too excited by the thought of doing them. interestingly they were all smiling and even asking "please pick me, please pick me".

sure you pay more but it does actually make a difference when you turn up with a local. in cambodia, indonesia, thailand or wherever. i imagine that he already indicated to them that the farang is okay, good-hearted, etc and easy to get along with, etc.

so, they are all smiling and a mamasan looking woman is smilingly pushing a chair under me. it occured to me that all this wasn't for free and i would have to pay accordingly. the price was 1300 baht for 2 hours, room included on site. (i am sure the boy would have got the same for 500.) but hey, it's only $35, and two the girls were totally stunning, the others looked doable too. i tried to haggle the price to 1000 without success, so i just picked the younger looking stunner.

she was no bangkok hardened biergarten pro but rather the thai girl you see walking on the street or shopping centre and you turn your head 180 degrees after her. just a natural, pretty young girl. (and at the biergarten now a st is at least 800 baht.)

in pattaya i usually no have much success with gogo bar lookers. because there is just so many men trying to outdo each other for their favours. and how much you pay? 1000 for girl, 500-600 for bar, 200 for drinks +st room maybe? double that in bangkok. and at the end i usually get shitty service.
she looked very young so i asked the age. 18. just the right age to please an old, idiot, retarded man.

she come from some far away town down south, near malaysia. 45kg, 160cm. perfect, chiselled body shape. fuck, she could put most of the koh pangan bacpackers to shame. she asked for payment up-front which i was a bit hesitant to do but it worked out okay, no probs. she took the moni and i went to have shower, being sweaty after the trip.


we met back in the small room up stairs. the room was basic, small but clean with a single mattress and a tv only for furniture. there we are, i wrapped in towel, the beauty still dressed up, asking me if i wanted massage, or (with a naughty smile) "phum-phum". my girl was wearing faded jeans and a black shirt. instead of an answer i just peeled her out of those and underneath revealed a black bikini and the most perfect meat this side of hollywood. wow, really had to do this slowly.

so, i still full of sperm, licked all over that beautiful meat. then slowly removed the panties only, leaving the bra still on. that bra promised something totally extraordinary so i kept it for last.

i ate her meat and ate and ate.... fuck, what a beautiful, young delicacy. she started moaning and rubbing her **** all over my face. totally unshaved but naturally just a tiny bit of hair on it. none on the lips though. i liked it that she was so ralexed and this promised for a really good time. after a long session of daty, i decided to pop the titties out. fuck, i nearly fainted. wow, what a beauty! medium big bangers, very light brown, a big handful each with very firm texture, like you would expect from a very young childless girl.

an extra big fuck had to follow and it did. interspaced with hot, deep kissing. i watched with great satisfaction my old wrinkled, diseased cock moving in-out of that beautiful, young fresh meat. this treatment should be administered to every old geriatric in nursing homes worldwide and they would recover in no time (but who would make money from recovered geriatrics? unfortunately, health profits nobody but only disease does).

by technique and devotion she was not quite as good as the massage-girl i will write about later. but that's a hard act to follow. however, this girl was just awesomely beautiful and still very playful and cooperative. we filled out at least an hour and a half. when we finished and dressed up she kept hugging and kissing me, even though i gave no tip. this really indicated that i had paid too much to start with. (but in comparison of what other posters tell about meat in had yai just next door it was a bargain.) she asked me to come back often.


when i walked back to the hotel the bellboy asked how was it but i just kept hugging him, i couldn't help it, i was over the moon. surely he made a good deal from the commission but i gave him another 50 baht. then he also kept menacing to return again soon. also, we sort of discussed what happened (including the sperm dripping from the girl's chin, etc) in front of the beauty receptionist girl, without me being unaware. after then she stopped smiling and handed out the key with left hand (it does have a meaning, will explain later). i never even bothered to give her as much as a good word or a smile, not wanting to spoil her further.

next day met up with the same bellboy again. by that that time the receptionist girl gave a more angry look. the bellboy said "she likes you". i am thinking "oh fuck, i have never had a gf, what could i do with her?, it must be a joke anyway because i am ugly". but it could be the cash factor too. she knowing that the other chick earned $35 so easily.... we are talking about $100 monthly salaries here!

summary:
spent 1200+70 baht ($34). girl was stunning. service was more than satisfactory. did not have to lick ass to any woman. all it took some cooperation and planning. it was just one if the best deals ever. but the best feeling was that i shared my meat with other ugly, old men. in another hour another hairy man would root her beauty ass and then another and so on.... what a happy world....., free of fighting, aggression, violence. please, please guys, share your meat and -say no to violence against men, for ever!
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another south thailand story:

beeb....beeb...beeeep. the damned sound waked me up. what was it? and it came again. beeb....beeb...beeeep. and again. beeb....beeb...beeeep. shit! i realized it was my kom-pewter's preprogrammed alarm function. turned the stupid thing on. opened the notebook file. the usual scary message stared in my face: "it's a fucking day baby!"


oh no! i exclaimed. i fucked only 3 days ago. not again so soon! but work is work. gotta do, gotta go. the point is: if you keep yourself well fed, you won't go hungry. the thing which you are provided with regularly, has no value to you, it is nothing special any more. this is one way how you can avoid of being slave to women. fuck them regularly and you can treat them like they ought to be treated: nothing special. you can [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on them. why don't they teach this at school?

so, how can you get a fuck? by licking ass? or should you beat up some poor bloke so that you would feel like a hero?

no! the only way, the only one correct way is by "cooperating with other men". that's what sex-tourism is all about. it's about peace and loving and sharing your meat with others. sharing and more sharing. no fighting, ever!

we are no dogs but intelligent human beings. sex-tourism must be the peak of human development!

so, staying in a particular town at that time i called up the tuk-tuk driver who had been nagging me by offering good quality young meat every night. so far i refused (because of course we have much better things to do than fucking meat) but kept his number anyway. he answered right away: "no probs sir, she will be there in your room at six o'clock. young, fresh meat straight from the farm. no kids yet."

"cost how much? " i asked. " 1100 baht sir, 2 hours, good jig-jig, puhm-puhm" "how about 1000?" i tried to negotiate a bit. "no roblem sir, 1000 can" he replied.

the day passed very well. weather was great. had a nice swim. worked a bit too on my kom-pewter. had good lunch for $1 and supper for around $2. luxurious! another day spent in peace!

6 o'clock came, then passed. then 7. i wasn't too worried. keeping appointments has a different meaning around here. at ten past seven there was a knock on the door. the driver pushed the girl in first then he came in. she seemed quite shy. young enough allright. "she fresh,20 years, only working 5 days here. no have farang before. little bit scared. pay now sir or later?" the driver said. "i pay her 1000 after we finished"-i said.

"and me 100 for taxi sir" the driver said. the bastard he got his way after all. we didn't sort these details out completely. so, he gets paid 1100 just as he proposed initially. nevermind, no big deal, just $2.50 difference.

have to admit that there appeared to be quite a few sex-tourists in this town. some alone, others in pairs or threes. some middle aged men, some young and older ones too. the meat here are used to foreigners. (and no, it is not phuket, samui or even hua hin. those places are already destroyed very badly).

on the other hand it is also sad that we are driven away from the comfort of our own countries and have to look for meat in strange far-away lands. when we could do it at home. if we had any say left at all.

we have so much attractive teenager meat back at home who would be ready to fuck and please older men. but our prestige as a class is not very high. "all men are just fighting idiots, they are just our slaves" being the official explanation.

so, back to the story, first i sent my girl to wash her feet in the bathroom. then i took off her clothes, played with her cunthole a bit. women get quite turned on by watching naked men so i walked up and down in the room for a while, moving my ass like a horse. that got her horny, she was soaking wet with ****-juices.

then i fucked her in various positions. she served well. the meat was allright too. very white, a bit chubby but not fat with nice stomach but somewhat hairy legs. a natural farm-girl, around 20 years young. she did what she was meant to do. she served. it wasn't that great but i couldn't complain for the price. even then i paid about twice what she would get in-house from the local boys.

she wasn't in a hurry. we filled out the 1.5 hrs. chatted a bit. she gave me the address of her brothel and asked that i visit her again there the next day. it came to payment time and i could see she was happy to receive sooooo-much money for little work. she was a good subservient woman, knew her natural place in society. we need many of these.

however the women who do not serve, we have no use of, irrespective of their looks. i personally shed no tears for none when hearing news of their demise in thailand, ko samui or wherever. good riddance. what you can't fuck you have no use for anyway.

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the notebook kom-pewter indicated that one more point was due for today. after then we could rest again for a week. sigh... the point is that if you beat in 100 fucks a year, it's only 8.3 fuck/month or 1.92 fuck/week (okay, make that two). after that it is rest time, don't have to do anything with animals.

it is not my favorite hobby to wander around at night on foot in strange thai towns. so (although realizing that it will cost more) i got a moto driver from in front of the hotel to look around for more meat. first we stopped at a karaoke bar. i requested that the driver come in and talk for me. it looks much better if you are with a local man. there were a group of girls who were only to sing but they led out one girl who was supposed to fuck too.

she looked quite okay. no more than 21, young and fresh enough. also smiled well. cost 1500 baht though! but they didn't have a room onsite and i really don't like to take them to my room. so, we just kept this thing on hold, hopped on the motorbike again and drove to a soapy massage, not too far away.

again the driver was to talk for me. but after i paid him, he kind of left me alone in there and everyone else were just women. not even other customers in sight.

i really don't like looking like an asshole among all those women drooling all over me. so i furiously started searching for a male employee as there are usually at all other soapy places. if i deal with the man then it more feels like that i am buying meat from him. we are supporting each other. because we are the same.

the girls here looked quite allright though. none really undoable. all young, less than 25 years and about 3 of them totally gorgeous, very much like those thai young girls you see in shops and shopping malls. you want to fuck them, yet they feel so untouchable and distant.

still no man in sight and i really wanting to fuck one of them beauties, eventually i picked one, paid the 1500 baht (foreigner price) and was about to go to a room when the man-ager arrived. too late, so i just waved and smiled at him.

the girl i chose was a genuine 19 year old. but just. so much so that it was her birthday and she was about to blow the 19 candles off on her birthday cake when i arrived. she was totally fresh and young, even complete with braces on her perfectly beautiful white set of white teeth (which were just a bit out of line, as she said. if so, i didn't notice.) wow, was about to fuck a beautiful teenager with tooth-braces!

that's exciting stuff for an elderly geriatric of a man who is not good looking, not rich, not well dressed and stupid as well. don't you agree? okay, better get some tissues ready so you can jerk off as i explain how we fucked.

the room was clean enough. one double bed in the middle, a big mirror on the ceiling just above the bed and a large shell shaped bath-tub in one corner. we hopped in the tub without much ceremony. she turned out to be extremely well behaved and mannered. totally devoted to service. all smiles and ready to please. i splashed around a bit in the bath-tub with the naked woman. she indicated that she was very excited too about fucking a foreigner.

i had a list of things that we should do. i printed them out beforehand from my kom-pewter. basically, what is sex?


according to the movies you see, it has to consist of the following contents: 1. licking 2.sucking 3.kissing 4.fucking 5.screaming 6.sperm-injecting....


so, while keeping my list safely out of the water and just occasionally glancing on it, we managed to do point 1 and 2 right in the bath. dried off each other with a towel and then some very passionate "point 1+2" followed again on the bed. she was even very keen on point 3....i asked which is better for her if i take my prothesis out or keep it in. she said it didn't matter as she was on heat very much and kept rubbing her very wet **** to me as we deeply kissed each other for a long time.

then while she had both of her ankles right behind her ears, i started to proceed with point 4. then she asked me to turn up the volume very high on the television as she was about to do point 5!

we did point 4 for a very long time in all positions that i could remember form the car-my's-ultra manual that i once read. then we went through all the positions once again. by then she was hysteric and kept doing point 5 in a very loud way. i really had enough a long time ago but how could i stop this raging nymph? (besides, when again was i going to get a 19 year young tooth-braced teenager nymph again?)

there was a knock on the door. then again. our time must have been up. she went out naked to the door. said a few words to the person outside then came back. "no problem" she said. then we were again going through the rites of points 1, 2 and 4. interspaced with long sessions of point 3. (somewhere in the mayhem i lost my list under the sheets and pillows and wasn't really sure which points we were doing.)

then i realized that my only chance to get out alive was to proceed with emergency point 6. which i really wasn't going to do as i like to do that better by myself in the peace of my bathroom. so i did a big, long point 6. and that was it. i was saved. we proceeded to a wash again. as she was putting on her clothes she asked if i felt ready doing it again. but i objected.

really, i like to sleep. much better than fucking. in your dream you can go away to lots of good places. much better than this miserable world. but down here it is just meat everywhere. so, we finished with some more point 3 and i left. of course my driver was long gone so i had to walk back, asking directions from the guard at the door. but it wasn't far just like 5 minutes.

i paid 1500 baht (about $40). a time like this i wouldn't have gotten back at home for even $200 ! not even if i had done my hair up in fancy style (well, if i had any hair left) or drove any expensive car. the point is, that if i can get good quality service from top meat like this, then so can you. because of course you are much more handsome, strong, kind, heroic, etc. man than me, guaranteed.

i am a complete idiot and ugly too. and also a closet-wanker. and have much less moni than most of you have for sure. why you have to root ol'mama's ugly ass over and over again every night is because you hate sex-tourists. you still believe the lies that they tell you. the truth is that nothing, absolutely nothing, no fighting, no heroism, no ass-licking will give you more meat to fuck than cooperating with your fellow men and please stop fighting!

as one sex-tourist has put it: things are not blown up, eksploded, killed by men of this religion or that religion. they are killed by men who want to impress meat! so, that they might get a "free" fuck, .....maybe. isn't the price of "free" fuck too high? sometimes "cheap" is actually cheaper than free. isn't it time you everyone buy that air ticket to bang-cock, phnom penh or ??
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[That Asshole]

south thai shopping trip - first half

one day, sitting in the internet lounge i overheard the conversation of two young men: "one really feels shit about himself, after having to please the mamasan and all the girls in the bar all night just to get laid. we can't get much lower than this..."

i thought that was funny to hear from such young men. then what would we oldies say? one of the best things about pattaya is the opportunity to observe the people. yes, we make such fools of ourselves night after night in front of these little girls who could be our children and grandchildren. but it doesn't have to be like this. there is another way, where you can keep your self-respect. this is that story. a south thai shopping trip:


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your starting point is pattaya bus station to bangkok. next stop is sai tai mai, southern bkk bus station. aircon buses leave pattaya seven times every day. every two hours from 6am to 6pm. the trip takes 2 hours and costs 121b. as you get off in bankok you ask where to buy the ticket to hua hin. the trip is 3 1/2 hours and costs 140b.

alternatively you can also make the nice little town of pechaburi first stop. only 2 hrs and 100b. see the attached diagram below. however, petchaburi can be omitted as overnight destination as it can be done as daytrip from hua hin or cha am.


introduction
this report will cover the following thai towns:
petchaburi
hua hin
cha am
prachuap kirikan
chumpon
surat thani
nathon (ko samui) -next report
tong sala (ko pangan)- next report
nakhon sitammarat
songkla
pattani
narathiwat
sungai kolok
hat yai
satun
trang
krapi
there is a basic map of each town to help you find a way from transport to accomodation. in some instances are also clues given to where to find fucking meat to bury your little, depraved willy. however in most instances i will avoid giving you exact addresses. the reason is very simple: this is not for everyone. i don't want some drunk farang turn up there and demand meat and make trouble. but if you are serious enough, you will follow the instructions and find the places easily.

also, even in thailand more and more often articlers start to appear in print in which women voice their objections and views about meat-trade and discrimination by police, workplace, etc. it would have been unimaginable just a few years ago. this is a direct attack against thai men's rights. i don't want to cause them more trouble than they already have.

with this report i will try to give you some more freedom, to find meat without selling your soul, without being violent or harming other men. you won't have to be no hero or strong or handsome or sexy. just please cooperate with your brothers and - "please say no to violence against men". - no matter how they are trying to make you believe, aggression is definitely not the way to get laid. but only peace is.
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petchaburi:
just a bit south of the capital, 2 hours by bus or train. very laid back and relaxing little town.

transport:
half-hourly buses from sai tai, aircon 2 hours, 100b. also has a centrally located train station. there is a frequent (every 20 min) ordinary slow bus to continue down south to cha am (1hr) and hua hin (1 1/2hrs). local transport by moto or samlo. the latter is a good leisurely way to visit the wats.

hotels: only 2 to choose from. equally crappy but cheap, around 120 b.

meat: the town is great and colorful. however not great introduction to what the south has to offer in terms of meat. but it is not really the south yet. while petchaburi makes for a great stopover, it can be easily made into a daytrip from hua hin.

other things to do:
lots of colorful wats, to tour by samlo. 30 baht will take you on a tour. there is a beautiful castle up on a hill nearby which is truly world class. be careful of the rotten monkies, people go home with toothmarks on their legs every day.
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cha am:
very popular beach resort a bit south of pethburi. best being compared to jomtien in pattaya. packed with hotels, restaurants and there is a cluster of the usual farang style beer-bars. just for interest, a farang got clubbed to death here not so long ago by four of his thai brothers. (of course it was his fault, he was not a man of peace and sharing meat. he run with a young girl, less than half his age,and refused to share, his so called gf.)

transport: to continue down south just catch the same bus from phetburi. the bus stops on the highway. a moto to the beach is 20b. has a train station but not many trains stop here.

hotels: the beach road is packed with rooms from 300b and up. on weekends the cheaper rooms will be full though.

meat: location of some farang oriented, girlie-bars is marked on the map.
other things to do: not much. the water looks a bit crappy but some people swim in it. also jetskis and all that shit.
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hua hin:
even more popular resort town further south. it's a big town actually. there are very many farang bars here. the usual pattaya style chat/barfine thing. no gogo bars. actually many of the girls are young and pretty. also, in my opinion they tend be more friendly than in pattaya.

transport: there is a bus station (marked on the map). many aircon connections further south and even to phuket. the train station is central and very pretty. several daily trains to bkk and south. local motos cost 20b+.

hotels: the town is packed with hotels of all sorts, starting from 300 b in low season. this can double in dec/jan.

meat: bars are marked on the map. there are more every year. even a branch of the famous [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). yes, same deal.

other things to do: the beach is reasonable. there is a big lotus shopping centre in town. most other attractions are out of town and transport is costly. the night market used to be better, but still reasonable. also, pechaburi would make for a nice daytrip.
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prachuap kirikan:
much prettier than most other thai towns. a little gem really. very scenic. there is a hill wat that rules the skyline and lots of monkiss.

transport:
buses destined to prachuap stop in town centre. however to go further south you will have to take one of the frequent services that pass the highway. tuk-tuk 40b to highway. aircon bus to chumpon 120b. also has a central train station with regular services. in town moto 20b, tuktuk30+.
hotels: not many but several reasonable ones.

meat:: large thai navy base in town. get the idea? therefore frequently visited by foreign sex tourists as well. very farang friendly town. either take-away or in-house service. your moto driver will know the places. locals are really lovely (except for the monkies).

other things to do: north of town is the beach ao noi with vendors who can cook up fresh seafood for you. totally primitive setup but cheap and exotic. you can walk there. south of town is ao manao beach which is very pretty and clean. it is inside the navy base. you can walk there (2km) or moto. you will have to sign in and out at the gate but it is free. the water is shallow, rather just for a dip than a swim. some food wendors but not as good for seafood as ao noi.

the base of the hill in town is infested with monkies. you can observe them rooting each other. it's very entertaining, similar as you do it.

as you will see, "doggy" is actually "monki style". it' totally pornographic. one monki walks around, lifts the tail of all other monkies. if finds the right thing then starts working on it but only for 5 seconds or so and moves on to the next. big monki roots big monki, big monki roots little monki, little monki roots big monki, you get it all.

the locals love to watch it and there is usually a good crowd of spectators. when you get horny enough, you can work it off at the local brothels for 500b. the night market is average, in the center of town and some stalls on the foreshore.
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chumpon: a big siti further down south. lots of meat.

transport: has a central train station. train to surat tani 100 b. there very strangely is not a single bus station but buses leave from all over town. on the map there is marked theminibus to surat (170b, 3hrs). you can also take the big bus (no ercon) from near the train station. but then you will have change buses once in longsuan. however it is quite straightforward. there is a direct boat from here to ko tao, samui or pangan by lompraya boat. they sell tickets at every hotel. local transport is by moto, 20b.

hotels: some very nice accomodation for 200b up. also a number of guesthouses. quite a few backpackers stop here on the way to ko tao, so you won't be stared at so much.

meat: ask the moto drivers who hang out in front of the hotels marked. they will show you around. cheap-cheap, expensive, they have it all. i figure, foreigners are usually welcomed.

other things to do: ther is not much of interest in town. forget about the postcard images they show you about the province. it's all lies. (prachuap is a lot nicer). the truth is just dirt beaches, lots of stray dogs and rubbish everywhere. a good example of this is "pak nam" where the fishing boats moor. however from there you can continue further south to had sairi beach which is quite scenic. a bit too dirty to swim but there are food stalls, a decommissioned navy ship and some beautiful wats.

possible to spend half a day wondering around. the packs of stray dogs are a killer though, be warned! the truck to go there leaves every ten minutes from next to the city-pillar on poramin mankha road. cost 15b to paknam and 30b to sairi beach. night market is at the exit of the train station. not too famous but okay with the usual staples.

another interesting thing to look at in town is the row of coffin shops right opposite the hospital. the quantity of coffins is amazing and the location is ingenious! imagine the amounts of cash changing hands every day between the coffin makers and hospital doctors. there are even air-conditioned and refrigerated models!
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surat tani:
this is a beauty. nobody doesn't like surat! it is the main jump-off point to samui, but worth to spend a few days.

transport: the train station is 14 kms out of town, but there are big red buses every ten minutes to the siti, 12 b, 6am to 6pm. after then a taxi will cost 120b. there are three bus stations. one out of town, near the train. long distance buses to bangkok and hua hin, etc leave from here. the railway bus stops in there too. the two main bus stations are right in the centre of town (marked on map). from here you catch the buses forther south to nakhon si tamarat, hat yai, puket, krapi.

also here are many travel agents selling tickets to everywhere, such as singapura, kl, bangcock, samui. most likely your hotel will also book a ticket for you to samui or pangan. otherwise, see the chapter: "all about samui and pangan."

hotels: a large number of hotels, near the siti bus stations. outstanding quality for the price in general.

meat: this must be one of the "most brothelized" towns in the country. expect to pay from 500b but real quality will cost at least 1000 b. for a start you can search the little streets around the two bus stations at night (it is quite safe), but there are a lot more places.

other things to do: the riverfront has an esplanade and makes for an interesting walk. lots of markets, chinese temples, wats. nearly as good as hat yai. the town has a totally awesome little recreation island. it is world class, quiet and scenic. you can study animal behaviour by feeding fish in the pond. then transpose your findings to humans (or women). wendors at the gate sell fish food for 10b. apart from that there is not much to do. there are two brijes to walk to get there. or a moto 20b.

the naitmarket is huge and awesome, near the pizza company on namuang strasse.
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nakonsi tamarat:
just 120 km south of suratani, another very well brothelized large town. the locals are reasonably friendly and apart form a few stray backpackers, very few farang ever ventures here, even though it totally rocks in tems of copulation possibilities.

transport:
ordinary buses from surattani runevery half an hour, but aircon only 5 times a day 80b. from the bus station to the siti a moto is 20b, it's a bit too far to walk. the train station is in thecenter of town and has regular connections to bkk and further south.

hotel:
many good value and reasonable quality hotels near the station. rates from 200b. you can walk to all.

meat:
the town has an army base. got the clue? just follow the army, as the meat follows them, like in the philippines. there is lots of meat in town, in fact it's on par with surattani in brothelisation level. foreigners seem to be welcomed and (at least for the time being) even get local prices. there are too many places to mention, but for a start you could walk the streets around the taksin hotel (marked on the map). but that's just the beginning. again, a good moto driver is the answer, and there are plenty of drivers on the main streets of town, day or night.

other things to do:
just south of town centre is the huge wat mahatat complex which said to be one of the most famous-est-est in the country. maybe not so much interest for a westerner, but it is interesting just to watch the hustle and bustle of pilgrims from bangkok and everywhere. there is also a huge lying down buddha figure, just like the one in bkk. it's along the main road and a songthaew will take you there for 10b. the tourist info center is in the town's central park and they have a better map. the night market is near the train station, it's not great but has all the staples.
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songkla:
three hours, 170 km south of nakonsi tamarat has a lot to offer to the devoted sex-tourist. owing to the large expat population there are many farang bars. the town is totally relaxed with big, quiet wide streets, old buildings, sitting on a peninsula, totally surrounded by water.

transport:
the old train station is unused nowadays, so the only way to get there is by bus. there are two routes, one via the ferry from singhanakhon or the main road from nakhonsi tamarat (mostly ordinary bus). aircon bus only three times a day. sogkla is very near hatyai, only 30 km and big buses run every 10 minutes as well as aircon minibuses. also, from hat yai there are usually better transport connections whether south or north. to pattani there are direct minibuses but to narathiwat you have to go via hat yai. moto is 20 b to everywhere in town but can be hard to find at night. there also rickshaws for a leisurely ride.

hotels:
there are just a couple or so, but usually enough for the few tourists. there are also guesthouses in the bar area, run by farang. also, a number of apartment buildings rent rooms by the month.

meat:
near the old train station, sisuda road is the farang bar area. it is starting to look like little pattaya nowadays (no gogo bars yet). there are also the thai brothels but it seems the farangs are somewhat resented around here and there doesn't seem to be much mixing with locals, so maybe it is safer to stick to the beer bars. many of the girls are quite good looking and speak fluent english.

other things to do:
as said before the town is very scenic and relaxed. there are lots of museums, beaches. however the multitude of stray dogs makes walking quite a hassle. the main beach called samilla is world class, very pretty, clean and well developed. surprisingly hardly sees many foreign any tourists though. it's a thai domestic tour secret. you can walk there from the town centre or a moto 20b.
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pattani and narathiwat
very pretty and relaxed towns in the far south. the locals seem to be more friendly than everywhere else in the country (including isaan). here start to appear the "covered head women". they dress very modestly and it is a joy to observe that they are under control and good subjects to their husbands.

transport:
pattani has minibuses to songkla, narathiwat and had yai. there are big buses running between pattani and narathiwat. from narathiwat to sungai kolok (the malay border) it's only 1 1/2 hrs, 70 b by regular minibus (every 30 minutes). in town motos only seem to be around daytime. if you want to go look for meat at night, you will have to make arrangements furing the day with a driver.

hotels:
considering the few tourists there are plenty of rooms. the accomodation is super value and quality when compared to sungai kolok at the border.

meat:
as said above, it is very low key, the towns sleep early. apart from the basic brothels narathiwat has a disco that starts at 9-10pm. the local people are very friendly though. also these may be some the only thai towns where the locals actually stop and talk with you. very nice. the town centre is at the clock tower and mosque. here you have the best chance to find a moto driver.

other things to do:
pattani only has a small klong running through but narathiwat has some beautiful (and deserted) beaches. there are also less dogs here, so walking is a lot more joy. you can go fishing on the beach or the river, like the locals do. however there seem to be an unusual concentration of homeless, wandering people (and ganja smoking youth) who can be intimidating, especially when they are in groups. even the nightly food markets close as early as 8pm. if you tired oif rice, there are lots of roti shops.
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sungai kolok:
the last stop before the malay border, it is actually a sort of brothel town. quite unpleasant and uninteresting, however it has lots of meat.

transport:
minibus to had yai 180b, narathiwat 70b. also minibuses to yala and pattani. to go elsewhere you will have to change in had yai. the border is walking distance, but because of the multitude of cars better take a moto for 20-30b. when you are on the malay side, just turn right, walk 300m to the malay border town when you can change moni or take a #29 bus to the nearby large town of kota baru (rm 3.90). the rate is about 10 baht for 1 rm.

hotel:
the worst part of the story. the most miserable collection of ratholes in the country. there are lots of them but they all seem to have that rotten, moth eaten carpet that stinks and crowls with bugs. it seems this is what the malaysian tourists like.

meat:
one beer bar area is marked on the map. also some of the more "upmarket" hotels are there plus st rooms. the clientele is nearly exclusively malay or thai but they speak english. apart from that, there are massage joints and karaokes all over town at night. there is a deal in some of the bars that you can "feel up" a girl for 5 minutes for 20 b, through the clothes only. i think it is great because it is quite degrading to women. you'll love it
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other things to do:
nothing really. it's a crap town. near the border, next to the river is a park of some sorts but it is unkempt. even the large market is not any interesting. there are much better ones in hat yai. also is more interesting kota baru just across the border.
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kota baru (malaysia):
as you get stamped out on the thai side, you walk 100 metres through the brij to the malay border post. fill in the forms, get stamped in. as you are facing malaysia, on your right is the malay border town. looks much better than sungai kolok. you will have to walk about 300 metres to the shops, moneychangers (about 10 baht for 1 ringit) and the bus stop to kota baru (rm 3.90). buses leave every 15 minutes or so. the trip is one hour(40 km).

as you walk out of the kota baru central bus station you are surrounded by hotels. they are not as good value as thai accomodation in general, but better than sungai. the night market is quite lively, the foodstalls are in a different section a bit nearer to the river. there is a museum and frequent traditional performances for tourists. the info centre is next to the museum. you will easily get by, by speaking indonesian but also many people speak english and they are totally friendly and helpful.
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[Opebo]

I hesitate to post one of my feeble efforts directly after those of the master - who I will always think of as 'Humble Turd'. But here goes:

I have just finished a one night visit to this large and prosperous seeming city. On my way into town from the bus station, we were stopped at a light near a group of absolutely beautiful 'university girl' types, who surprisingly smilled and flirted! They flashed a sign in which the index finger is extended as well as the 'pinky' finger, while the two middle fingers are folded under by the thumb. This sign makes me think of a bull's horns. Does anyone know what it means? I have also been gestured at in this fashion in nightclubs in Thailand.

My driver claimed that girls such as this could be had for 2,000 baht. I have no reason to believe he was blowing smoke, but I had no way to confirm this as the price was far beyond my budget. Perhaps a well heeled monger can report on this.

I stayed at the Sawasdee Hotel, and recommend it. The 400 baht rooms are decent with air, hot water, western stool, and bum gun. The desk staff are female, but the bellmen will procure for you should you ask - I was quoted a price of 1,000 baht, and though I was not sure if this were short or long time I declined.

After a long walk around all the central entertainment venues - all of which looked very expensive and pointless, being merely discos and high-end kareokes, I utilized the excellent directions provided in Oldian's report ( http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=483676&highlight=khon+kaen#post483676 ) to find the cheaper houses.

These were technically Kareokes, but thankfully no singing or music was attempted. I was quoted 500 rather firmly by all the houses, and took a very curvaceous 21 year old. While my primary type is definitely the very thin and preferably slightly tall waif (or ectomorph as I like to call them), I often like to sample these busty, big-assed girls. This one seemed very friendly and danced very suggestively. She also had that anomaly of a cute, small featured baby-face attached to the 'brick shithouse' body.

As I dreaded, in the room upstairs she was very condom-insistent. I could not disuade her, and donned one of the painful, ridiculous instruments for the first time in years! A friend had instructed me in a tecnique for breaking them during coitus, so I thought I'd give it a try. See 'Safe Sex in Thailand' thread for the technique. After mere minutes of the absurd attempt to have sex with this tiny straightjacket on, I pursuaded her to allow bareback by offering 500 baht tip. Parting with an extra 500 was irksome, of course, but it was balanced by the supreme satisfaction of having my way - creampie!

Interestingly, the girl suffered from the fishy-**** smell so common among american providers, but so rare in Thailand. I have noted in my travels that it is usually the condom-pushers who have this smell, while the girls who hop on bareback without even the mention of a condom are invariably clean and smell great.

In any case, the service was very good - no starfish she - though no blow job. As always blow jobs are hard to come by and of inferior quality at these Thai joints. There are as many as eight of these places on the soi, and after finishing I strolled by and saw many pretty girls. On one side-soi I saw two old women who said they had girls hidden away nearby - this intrigued me as the best are often locked up tight due to some immigration or other Police State issue, but I had not yet recharged and so went home to sleep.

[Nuevo]

South Thai Shopping Trip - second half + maps

Had Yai
The second bigest Thai town and the best of the South. A real joy. The friendliest people. Lots of good food. Lots of meat. Cheap. And no crowds!

Transport:
From Songkla buses run every 10 minutes. From the Malaysian border minibuses run every half an hour to Had Yai(4 hrs). Also minibuses from Naratiwat and Pattani. The main transport center is the BKS station just south of town. A moto there is 20 B or tuk-tuk 30B. From the BKS bus terminal either there is a large scheduled bu to your destination or alternatively the many travel agents just next door can call a minibus for you who will pick you up from there within an hour.

Train: The station is in central siti, convenient to walk to. Many trains to Bkk or south.

Local transport: the usual moto, tuk-tuk or metered taxi selection, but really you can walk most everywhere.

Hotel: the main road leading up to the train station is lined with guest houses and cheap hotels from 300B and up. On weekends however rooms are scarce because of the Malaysian sex-tourists.

Meat: The Limp Lady massage is reasonable value for 1350/165B as lots of ther meat is very pretty. However there are lots more options: Chayakun and Tanratnakon roads a good start after dark, but even early afternoon. In the evening the street behing the railway line comes to life, esp. around soi 6 (Rajutit rd). There are also many hotels there. Others have written a lot about Had yai in the applicable section. The good thing is you need no help of thai men here. They are used to foreigners.

Other things to do:
This is a very interesting town. Very chinese in character, like Penang. Lots of Chinese restaurants and the night market is good too. It's fun to get lost in the backstreets, there are lots of little markets, old buildings and chinese temples. And the people are very friendly. Not many dogs but the motorbikes are a real danger.

TA - Great Reports on So. Thailand. Very funny and engaging writing style. A joy to read. A lot of good info and some of it is very useful for me as I am leaving for the LOS in a couple of weeks and will visit Had Yai and Songkla during this trip.

I already have my itinerary for this trip, but I have copied and saved your report for help in design of my next trip in March. A long bus ride from BKK to Had Yai with a number of stops in between based upon your suggestions.

I have a good map of Had Yai and I have read enough threads (1000s now) to know that you are having fun with place names and maps at least as far as Hat Yai goes anyway.

"Limp Lady" is Pink Lady, Tanratnakan Rd. is close to but across the main road & the north of the Channivet KTVs, so maybe you are referring to the MPs on Tanratnakan Atami & Chintana, Chaiakunutit is maybe referring to the SKY Kareoke Farms and the area on Soi 6 is maybe a reference to the disco on that side of the tracks?

OK. I'm just guessing about the Hat Yai info you provided. Perhaps you could enlighten us board members a bit further.

There isn't much written info on Songkla. Is that a map puzzle?

Cheers and Take Care,

N1

[Opebo]

I am pleased as punch to report that RCAKnight's kind assurances have proven to be correct - the brothel sois are in fact reopened, though definitely a bit more 'low key' and with doors shut. The touts are out though, and the houses are reasonably well staffed - maybe half their former level. I did not feel at all uncomfortable or unwelcome anywhere, however one is hustled inside very quickly now - no loitering about outside. If anyone visits, please be cooperative, quiet, and low-key, in order to assist these men in their good work. And whatever you do, don't go in large groups - alone or in a pair is best.

I personally took five girls a couple of nights ago, and two were very good, one OK, two a waste of time. Since the target market of these shops is the Thai man, the odds of good service (decent BBBJ, non-starfish sex) are about 50%, but that still equals only 600 baht per pop.

I should note - for the benefit of our well-heeled mongers - that one of my 'waste of time' girls was a sort of high end girl from the Soi Seven delivery pimps. They offered a 'better' girl for 700 instead of their usual 500 baht price. Against my better judgement I tried her and have to admit she really was extremely pretty - well above the norm in those places. As for the poor service, tastes differ, and I'm sure she would be enjoyable for some. I think several of those pimps along Soi Seven may have such special higher end girls.

[That Asshole]

other subjects1-4 on south thailand

1. transportation in southern thailand (general)
2. safety,dangers and annoyances in south thailand
3. food, drinks, health, alcohol
4. faq
5. further lovely stories
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1./ transportation (also applicable generally to the whole country)
1.1.bus:
1.1.1. large bus: basically two types, aircon or fan/fresh air cooled. some routes run both, others only fan. aircon always more expensive and definitely more comfortable over long distances such as a couple of hours or more. also seats are larger. luggage is locked away in under-body compartment.

receipt for luggage is hardly ever issued, so it is worth keeping an eye on it when passengers get off. on fan cooled buses the luggage is loaded inside the bus, usually in the back and it is best to get a seat nearby, and be aware all the time, especially when groups of young men board the bus.

for runs up to a couple of hours the "fresh-air" bus is comfortable enough and while the vehicle runs there is enough ventillation as all windows and doors are open. also, there tends to be a nicer, more open atmosphere in an open-air bus and is a better way to meet locals, especially on trips far-down south (and of course in isaan). tickets are most often sold on board, except at large terminals such as sai tai where there are ticket offices.

1.1.2. minibus (van): frequently used in the south, especially around hat yai and the border. eleven passengers, usually everyone gets a whole seat. luggage is loaded in the back or on top under a tarp. the vehicles are theoretically airconditioned, however this might be marginal in some cases. fares are fixed and cost more than large buses. there can be either a schedule or a van may leave when it is full (varies). they can be boarded at minibus stations (usually next door to large bus terminals) or a travel agent can arrange to have you picked up (for a small fee).

1.1.3. minibus (pick-up truck, songthaew): usually for smaller distances, eg. from town to beaches. up to 12 passengers sit on two long benches in the back. the most common transport on koh samui and pangan. the driver collects the fee when a passenger gets off. also most commonly used in-town/suburban public transport mode nearly everywhere.

1.1.4. large truck: common in phuket and other towns such as chumpon. basically runs the same routes as a songthaew but bigger in size. two two four rows of long seats in the back.
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1.2. train: one line runs all the way from bankok to the malaysian border at sungai kolok. there are up to 20 services a day. there is a sideline to trang with 4 daily services. long distance runs are also serviced by sleeping wagons. aircon 2nd class is very pleasantly comfortable even by international standards and fresh, clean linen is provided.

the whole carriage consists of one single compartment and berths are screened with curtains. security guards are on duty all night. a conductor will wake each passenger up when they approach their destination. food usually costs extra. cost of the longest run in a second class aircon carriage is around $25 (1000 baht). there are toilets but no showers on board. fan cooled second class is too noisy for sleepeing as all windows are open. aircon 1st class is more expensive than flying.
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1.3 local transport in towns and villages (fares should be agreed on before boarding):

1.3.1 samlo (rikshaw), pedal powered: this is the slowest of all. can be the cheapest or the most expensive, depending on the location. in touristed towns (hua hin, etc. it is a rip off). fares from 20b.

1.3.2 motorbike: the most common staple everywhere. there are no hassles as drivers are licensed by the locality, wear distinctive vests with a number and queue up for passengers. the next one in line will take you. it's very civilised by asian standards. fares start at 20b.

1.3.3. tuk-tuk, (motor powered): can be 3 or 4 wheeled little vehicle with room for 3-8 people. fares from 30b.

1.3.4. metered taxi: the usual bankok style sedans. airconditioned. only in large tourist centres such as samui, etc. some routes may not use the meter but run on an agreed fee.
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1.4. airplane: bankok has airlinks with a large number of southern towns. also, there are some inter-town services such as samui-phuket. might be quick, however it is never-ever much fun when compared with "slow transport", - if you have the time.


conclusion (the journey is the destination):

surely, many of you will agree that "finding the meat" is the more interesting component of a dedicated sex-tourist's travels. while actually "doing them" is kind of a chore, in any country. we just do them for that extra point or two. but on the way we are subjected to challenges of culture, languages, food, transport, accomodations, social interactions in various countries and it is a totally fascinating experience way above of what sex with any woman could offer. but we get that also, as a kind of extra benefit. (well, is it a benefit at all?)
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2. safety, dangers and annoyances (especially in the south)

as you have decided to be a dedicated sex-tourist, you already have an advantage over the world. you are a sceptic and do not accept the world's dogmas at face value. you go your own way, even when your way is generally despised, you are confident that you are doing the right thing and by dismissing the violence of the world, you choose peace and choose to share your meat with others instead of fighting for it as they would expect you to do.

what can harm a man of peace? in fact rest assured, you are very safe because you are following a path of peace. you are not looking at other men as competitors but as allies and brothers.

this way you will be most safe, in any country. you will avoid fights and all you ask is the "price". your aura of peace will follow you everywhere you go. you already know that safety will not come from the police but from your own heart and from your own actions and thoughts. therefore you feel responsible for all you do and think.

you already know that the only danger that faces you is getting too involved with the meat. then come the lies rolling in, the secret schemes, the betrayals and rip-offs. as you travel, often you will be approached by meat, in the form of independent women, with offers of "free sex". however this should come as a warning of danger.

since you already are getting meat cheaper than free, what value can they give to you? what do you actually have to do for "free sex"? have to lie, cheat, betray your friends or to fight them? if they really want you, then you can give them the address of a public brothel where they can work and be shared by all, even you. peace.

in all the southern travels i felt very safe. the only problem was that i got bitten by a dog once in krabi. but it was my fault, i was trying to do it missionary style, and the mongrels only like.....doggy.

really, seriously it was only a tear in my pants. but there are many dogs, especially on beaches and they are often big and in packs of 5 or more. so prepare for it and it will not come as surprise. the other main danger is motorbikes in towns. they wave in and out of traffic at insane speeds. most dangerous being the young men driving. be extra careful when crossing roads on foot.
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3. food ,drinks and health..

3.1 food: having spent some time in pattaya you already know the basics. generally the food is not as spicy in the south as in the north of thailand. however, lots of isaan people run restaurants everywhere so beware. deep south many of the roti (indian bread) shops appear but still rice is the staple. not sticky though. on most of the maps i marked the location of the night-markets. these are some of the rewards of our travels. some are average, but others are quite exceptional such as surat thani and krabi. trang and satun are also quite good. a good fill will hardly ever cost more than $2.

3.2 drinks: the morning coffee vendors are a special treat (better ask for real thai coffe and not instant), often selling fried bread chunks at nominal price. nearly every night-market will have a stall with fresh fruit shakes, they are great for 25-50 cents a cup.

booze: an essential ingredient to surviving thailand. not really every day but sometimes it is nice to find a comfortable room after a hard days work of rooting meat, sitting on your balcony overlooking a beautiful river or bay, feeling the breeze in your face and slowly finishing off a small bottle of mekhong whisky with mixers.

basic price for 375 ml is 80-90b (35% alcohol), up to 150b on islands such as phangan. there is a good alternative the "white spirit", 375 ml only 40-50b ($1.20), also 35%. look for the round bottles with red label. it is quite drinkable with a mixer. beer-chang is also worth looking at. it is presently 6.4% strong and costs 35-40b/lge botol.

to get totally smashed shouldn's cost more than $3-4/occasion. i think that's quite good value to have a good time for a whole afternoon, with very little investment.

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3.3 health: having already realised some basic thruths about life and having decided to pursue the career of professional sex-tourist it is pretty basic that you will not search good health from doctors, just as you wouldn't search security from police. what would you want to have to do with someone who sells sickness, who derive their income and wealth from others' misery. you know better than that....

if your mind is right, you will be right too. if you take care of your attitude and thoughts, you will stay healthy. just as your happiness does not come from outside (eg. from meat or fucking), neither comes your good health from "dealers of sickness".

remember, this is a rotten world. it feeds from your misery. when you look at a pack of cigarettes, what does it suggest to you? there is the picture of some diseased man, hypnotising you: "if you smoke this you will be sick...... you will rot away.... we need you business....go to a doctor today....."

(soon will they have some sick fotos on condoms too, displaying the dangers of not using one?)


why let them hypnotising you? you can choose to hypnotise yourself instead this way: "i am healthy...i will stay healthy... i feel good every day....my joy is limitless....and comes not from outside". but of course you already know this. sorry, i am not trying to be smart here. and as for nutrition: if you have $5 a day for food, you will eat well.
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4. some faq answered:

q: how to find the meat in this region?

a: basically like this: talk with some local guys like a moto driver, hotel bellboy, etc. let them go with you, introduce you. you might pay a bit more (not always) but you will get laid and get good service. also, make it a point to ask for the boss (usually a man) ask him the price and whether you can choose any of the girls. forget that shit that she has to like you too. untrue! if the boss says yes, then she will not say no and she will serve well.

so, remember: always ask the boss first!!! fortunately this is not the us. best is to find a healthy, young man who would know all the places to go. an old man may not be such a good help at all.

q:but where is the meat?

a: just about every thai town would have some sort of meat-shop. large towns will surely have several kinds in different price categories, but occasionally even smaller towns do really well for some reason. on the outside it doesn't usually say "brothel", however it might be "karaoke" with not much singing going on at all, or the sign says "massage" but none of the girls knows how to do it, or it might be called a "hotel" which is in fact not a hotel at all. you will need local knowledge most everywhere.

best to look at the local guys as your allies. they are in the same shoes as us, oppressed by the meat just like us, their situation is hardly easier than ours. there is no need to make friends with them. but doing honest business is just fine.

q: do i need to speak good portuguese?

a: not really. neither german or chinese. and in my opinion, "what you want" matters more than "what you know". armed with a phrasebook and a good attitude you will get a long way. and by the time you finished you trip you will speak some thai for sure. so simple.

q: is it safe?

a: generally, the further away you get from the tourist crowds the more respect you get as a guest. likewise in places like hua hin or phuket there is quite a bit of resentment against foreigners (as many of the guys would have had some run-up with a foreigner and they tend to generalise after a bad experience) and i would suggest staying away from local brothels. however in those places you have the farang bars. otherwise, i have written a whole chapter about safety in general, if you bother to read it.

q: what is the meat like?

a: it varies. of course you get what you pay for, as a general rule. some of the cheap ones are ugly. others for 1000 b and up can be stunners. this is the area where many of the beauties from chiang mai work. white, delicate meat. also some lookers from bordertowns down south. only very rarely an isaan girl. if you love pattaya then this is not for you.

because here the best thing is that you don't have to chat them up. you just buy them from their owners everywhere. just by cooperating with other men. therefore you create peace and understanding among all men. no fighting, ever. you say no to violence against men.

q: how many botols of beerchang equals one small botol of mekong whisky in terms of braindamage?

a: (as you can see i am quite fond of collecting f-points.) we can solve this problem by using d-points here instead. one botol of beerchang @ 640 ml and 6.4% = 4.096 d-points. one botol of mekong at 375 ml and 35% = 13.125 d-points.

if we divide the "d-value" of mekong by the "d-value" of beerchang 13.125/4.096 = 3.2 we arrive at the correct result. which means that for the same amount of brain-damage as one small botol of mekong gives, you would have to drink 3.2 large botols of beerchang. it follows that your investment is pretty much the same whichever kind you choose (if you include some ice and mixers with the mekong).

you see that this works because before i started drinking mekhong, i was even able to spell "botol" right.
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5. another story:

found a nice looking massage place somewhere in a nice town. talked with boss. 800 st/1hr. girls lined up, but i intentionally chose one that didn't smile or made eyecontact. it's a lot greater satisfaction when you get good performance from an initially uncooperative meat. and if it doesn't work out you still get a fuck and only costs $20. very petite, skinny girl. it's great they have a number and no name.

it's like a meat market really. i picked #95. paid the boss up front. my girl very pretty, no kids, 22 years from chiangmai. room was a bit crappy but sheets clean. we did it all and she cooperated, no probs at all.

at the end she asked for a tip, just 50 baht. (because she wanted to save up to go to university.) i got her to sit next to me. even though 22, she was still reasonably pure in mind and not yet totally lost. i decided on some education, worth more than any "girls'-university":

"listen lady. i am telling you the truth. you not need to go to school. they don't teach you anything good there. they just make you proud and arrogant like the foreign women. you don't want that. and in fact you already know everything you need to know. right now you are doing just fine. you have one purpose in life. and that is to serve men.

all men, thais, americans, blacks, whites, greens. this is where your satisfaction should come from and not from moni. at the end of the day when you sit down and remember the day with a joyful feeling of having served so many men. you have a purpose in life, don't forget that!"


(-i think i gave her something more worthwhile than moni.-)

she answered: "yes grandpa" and we said an emotional goodbye to each other and promised everlasting...(oh, whatever..... ) you really have to educate them. otherwise they know nothing. or know the wrong thing.
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just one more, if you are not bored.....

the story of finding "the place"

from the congregation of moto drivers on the corner of the nightmarket i picked one that i thought would do the best job. he actually wasn't the one next in the drivers' queue but i insisted that i wanted this one. a healthy, handsome looking young man, around 25 years old. then i explained what i wanted.

big smile on his face "sure, no probs". the other drivers also came over to listen and all seemed amused. they all gave him tips on where to go. the fare didn't come to too much, just 20b. we got on the bike and only rode for 500 metres. we were still in the city centre, just a few blocks down.

about 5-6 shops with brightly lit pink windows, various looking girls sitting outside. they seemed quite friendly. i insisted that i had to talk to the boss, some man. soon a smiling thai gentleman appeared in a suit. we discussed the price. they offered all for 1200 baht. i figured 1000 would be possible but didn't push the issue. wanted to look around a bit. quite a few of the girls looked doable but there was a particular one i liked. tall, slim with a perfect smile.

i asked "can i choose any?" the answer was: "sure" by the boss. he noticed that i liked that one and urged me: "take this one, she is new". but i decided we need to look around first. shopping is the more fun than fucking.

we got on the bike again and the driver asked: "do you want massage too or only boom-boom? i know place but no massage, only boom-boom. only 300 baht." sounded good to me.

we turned back towards my hotel and stopped at an unpromising building nearly next door. thai man sitting outside. driver tells him something, we go upstairs together. wow, i had been walking past this house every day several times and suspected nothing about it. there were about 20 girls sitting around. they looked a bit surprised on seeing a farang, but not unwelcoming at all.

again i made sure from the boss that i can pick any. when the boss says yes, then no woman working there will say no. sure! they were no great beauties, but many looked doable. and the price, nearly cambodian standard. the deal was 300 b for 30 minutes. that's more than enough.

who would want to spend more than that with a woman, any woman? in fact ten minutes is just fine to do everything. i paid the driver another 100 b and sent him away. after all i only had to walk ten steps to get back home. the rest is history......
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[Opebo]

Just a week ago I found the brothel sois of Udon Thani reopened; even more recently I found them closed again. I am beginning to understand that this has long been the normal cycle, and have no reason to believe that the police oppression is escalating.

However finding them closed, I ventured to Nong Kai, where I found their brothel sois wide open for business. These run between Thanon Meechai and Thanon Prajak near the bus station, and contain perhaps a dozen houses. Be sure to visit both sois - the one further east seemed to have better girls the night I was there. Also there were a few houses on Meechai near where the sois disgorged.

The difference between these brothels and Udon's are these: there, the girls are almost all good looking and young, and about half provide good service (BBBJ, non-starfish sex). In Nong Khai I found no girls who would provide a decent blow job, and the few I took were horrible at intercourse. It is also more difficult, though not impossible, to get bareback here. As for appearance, the Nong Khai girls ran the gamut from very attractive to really repulsive, but a fair number of houses had about the same level as Udon. I'm pretty sure the girls here are Lao as well.

The price is the same at 300 baht, but alas, with service this bad it could be free and it wouldn't really be all that tempting. One cannot help but wondering about Thai men, who make up the clientel of these girls; they seem satisfied with a level of performance that no occidental could tolerate. And for 300 baht, which is a days pay for most of them! Perhaps they enjoy being given a difficult time. It also makes me wonder why there are a lot of girls in Udon who provide decent service. Could it be farang clients? We are not common even there. In any case, performance is, quite simply, good in Pattaya and Bangkok, but generally atrocious anywhere to the north.

[Freeler]

Opebo,

Thanks for some nice reporting in the past few weeks.
Would people finally understand that there is life outside Patts, Bonkers and CM?

Regards,
Freeler

[Opebo]

Opebo,

Thanks for some nice reporting in the past few weeks.
Would people finally understand that there is life outside Patts, Bonkers and CM?

Regards,
Freeler

You're very welcome Freeler.

Alas, I must side with those who consider Pattaya the center of the universe. The service level is generally so abominable here in Isaan that one has to take about three girls to find one that will perform sufficient to relieve one of one's load, which means that in effect it is just as expensive if not more so here. Blow jobs are rare and very poor even by Thai-girl standards, and anal sex is, as far as I can tell, like a needle in a haystack. Then again I am comparing these girls to Beach Road standards - I suppose if one compares them to the bar-girls they are about the same.

In fact I just came from a visit to Soi Sow Fie Dang here in Udon Thani. The other sois are completely closed up, and Sow Fie Dang is about half-closed. I was unable to find any houses open where I had experienced girls worth repeating, so I had to try new ones. I spent 600 baht on two duds, neither of which would perform oral or allow condomless sex before I finally found one who would. A 900 baht orgasm.

[Opebo]

Attempting to follow in the footsteps of a better reporter than I, I embarked upon a South Thailand journey. My overall impression of the area is that it is slightly more prosperous than other parts of Thailand, and the women do look a bit different. There are more with a certain malay look, and a lot more with big breasts.

In Surat Thani I found a number of cheap hotels near the bus station, all about 200-400 baht. I had nothing else to do so I looked at about half a dozen, and I don't think I have ever seen a more colourful collection of weird, decrepit, yet functional old hotels. Really charming. It should be noted that in most a basic room with fan, cold water, no TV, and some cases no bumgun was about 250 baht. The 350-400 baht air-con hot water Engrish-channel TV rooms on offer in a couple of the better joints really seemed a better value.

I found the massage parlours and kareokes near the bus station, particularly in the area between the Thai Rung Ruang and Thaithani hotels. The girls were very open and friendly, calling out to me as I walked by. Nothing secretive here. I asked the girls in every one I could find their rates, which were 200-300 baht for a two hour massage upstairs, and an additional 1,000-1,500 quoted for 'bum bum'. One of these even had a very small fishbowl.

I had not intended to play at this level as my budget is tight, but I could not resist entering. I chose a 24 year old huge-jugged sort of Malay looking girl who said we could discuss price in the room. There she gave me the fisherman's pants to don, and actually began a reasonably good 'Thai' massage, but it was clear from her manner that all was available. I asked and she quoted 1,000 baht in addition to the 300. I countered with 1,000 all in, and she agreed, but when she pulled out a condom I demurred. She quickly countered, Ok no condom but you pay 1,000. I am ashamed to admit I aquiesced to this shocking price.

The service really wasn't bad, though not to a professional standard. No BJ, but nipple nibbling with simultaneous handjob substituted well enough. Good, responsive intercourse in all postions, and she was very wet. She even seemed to enjoy what an ex of mine called 'clicking' across the cervix. You know the feeling when you're in deep at a certain angle, banging the cervix, and it feels like it is 'clicking' across your dickhead. She didn't seem to mind farang size or the farang length session, and didn't even mind the creampie.

After dinner at the waterfront I walked by the Surath hotel, also in this immediate downtown area, and found around six or eight girls outside. They all offered sex for 500 baht, even though half were very attractive and half really quite bad. The attractive ones all had pimps sitting right next to them, which was very offputting and unusual for Thailand. I would have considered trying them out but the 1,300 baht blow to my budget had put me out of the market for the evening.

Now to a question for Humble Turd. You mention very cheap brothels in your Trang report:


Trang
Meat:
Apart from a soapy massage there is a bordello north-east of the train station. The fare is 1000B/1hr for foreigners, rooms are clean, many girls. It's quite nice with many bungalows in a garden setting. The cheap knocking shops are not far away for 2-300B for 30min.

... but you did not mention such venues in other cities. I was just wondering if you had any luck with these elsewhere, as the 200-300 baht level is more my scene.

Also you mention the difficulty of getting around:


As the town is very spread out ... Except everything is so fucking faaaaar.


While I found downtown Surat Thani fairly compact, I have no way of knowing what I missed further afield. It seems to me that by far the most difficult aspect of these non-touristed towns is not the lack of English or the girl's unfamiliarity with farang sex, it is the difficulty of renting a motorbike. In places like Pattaya you can rent one very easily for 100 baht per day, but in many towns it is nearly impossible, particularly if you forget your passport. Visiting a Thai town without access to a motorbike is, while not quite as bad as being in the US without a car, still pretty exhausting and limiting.

[Opebo]

I took a look around downtown Surat Thani at about 1:00 AM. The massage parlours and kareokes which were open during the evening were now closed or operating 'low-key' - the door still open slightly but girls inside.

I also went back to the Surath Hotel around this time, and found a lot of girls there, many doable. There were at least a dozen girls. I bargained with one to 500 all in, including the short time room. It appeared the desk clerk was 'in on it', as he stressed that short time here was 30 minutes! In the room she refused proper sex, so I gave her 100 baht and left.

I then found another hotel in the downtown area which was even better - the Thai Hotel. It has the same arrangement as the Surath, but more - maybe 30 - girls, and a bigger precentage of young pretty ones. There were also a lot of pimp-looking guys around, or possibly they were customers hanging out and choosing slowly; I really can't tell the difference. The price here was also uniformly quoted as 500 baht, but I didn't ask if the ridiculous 30 minute rule were in effect.

A motorcycle taxi took me for 20 baht to the New Star Hotel - the only high rise in town. The disco there was very well attended. I did not go in, but saw the large crowd leaving. In the plaza around the hotel's parking lot could be found 3-4 more of the massage/kareoke brothels, and they were still open. The girls called out to me, and I discovered they also charged 300 baht for a massage. There were a few foreigners in the disco crowd, and one or two in these kareokes.

Surat Thani is, as has been reported before, a pretty town, with more of our sort of fun than most untouristed Thai towns its size. The place had a European feel to me, partly because of the esplenade, and partly due to the stylish old buildings. Much of the downtown seems to have been built in the 1920's and 1930's.

Lastly I had a theory as to why the Thai-oriented sex businesses seemed a bit more 'out in the open' here - the South is the more liberal part of Thailand, compared to the Northeastern and Northern provinces. I thought of it as the difference in my homeland between the bible belt and the west coast.

[Opebo]

This town is similar to Surat Thani in many ways, including its old-fashioned appearance. It seems a bit bigger than Surat, and a bit cheaper. The cheap hotels near the downtown train station have fan rooms for 140-160, and the air con rooms are about 250-350. The nicer hotels such as the Grand Park and the Nakhon Garden are still only in the 500-600 range. The Thai Hotel is a good midrange at about 350-450, and is in fact the only place in town I could find to use the internet.

Upon first arriving in town in the late afternoon, I decided to try to get a motorbike. Amazingly, I did, but at huge cost. A motorbike taxi took me to half a dozen locations looking for rentals; several times I tried to say forget about it, but he was very insistent. Anyway I was enjoying driving all over town - I figured it was my chance to see the place. In the end he took me to a very rough-looking location near the dead end of the railroad tracks, where a tough asked 800 baht for two days! I was shocked but by then we were surrounded by about 20 people, including hags, louts, and urchins - all friendly enough, and all enjoying the farang show. Anyway rather than disappoint everyone and create hostility I bargained to 700, gave the man an old US driver's license, and drove off in the most horrible rickety brakeless Honda ever.

After a heavy meal of Southern-style curries, I found the massage/kareoke joints just where Humble Turd said they would be - on some small sois and the main street at Thaksin Hotel. Oddly, Carrefour looms over this whole area - like having a brothel next to WalMart. I walked around asking the price, and was quoted everything from 2000 plus the 300 massage fee to 1000 all in for 'bumbum'. Then I wised up and decided to try just going upstairs with the girl and seeing what 300 got me, sans negotiation. For all I knew, 300 might be the Thai price! Certainly these girls seemed too lazy to actually give a person a two hour massage.

I opted for the 400 baht oil massage, thinking this might be more sexual. The girl I took - average looking 20 year old - soon got tired and offered to massage my member. There was no mention of an extra fee, but she did decline to have sex. This was the first hand-job I had had since being last back home in sex prison, and it was a poor substitute for sex. The girl had quite a technique though, rubbing all around the ball sack, the area between balls and anus (name escapes me), and the area where legs meet stomach. Quite frankly all this nonsense tickled and caused me spasms - my muscles in that area are still sore! Some of you mongers might like the novelty, and she promised me it would make 'yai something something', implying a big orgasm.

After an ordinary orgasm, she wanted to chat for the rest of the two hours. This surprised me, but I guess I was a curiosity, and nothing awaited her downstairs but the same old same old. She proceeded to tell me that my hotel was haunted, and pantomimed all sorts of horribles that would be visiting me later. I must confess I'm still a bit nervous to go back there - it is a very spooky looking place. She kept stressing that she was too small, and I too big, for us to have sex, and this made me wonder - was sex normally included for the 300 baht? Certainly when I left no tip was requested, and she kissed me goodbye in the most friendly fashion. I advise future visitors to these places to play it cool and see if you can get service for the list price.

One other find suggests to me that 300 may be the going rate in these towns. I asked a motorbike taxi driver to show me the 'song', which I think means *****house, and he charged me 100 bhat to take me 100 yards! The place in question is not 1/2 a block from the Thai Hotel, on the same small soi. I had seen it earlier - just a large set of stairs, very well lit, with gangsters at the bottom. I got rid of driver, and the gangsters gave me a ticket in exchang for my motorbike keys - seems to be the rule there. Just as the driver had said, the price here was 300 baht (actually who knows what the Thais were paying). Upstairs was a huge brightly lit hall with men loitering on couches at both ends, and a group of about 20 very good looking rather pale girls arranged seated in ranks in the middle. I chose, paid, and the old mamasans gave me a ticket - no idea what for. We entered a bedroom directly off of this big, crowded, public hall!

The girl I chose was about 18-20, slim, and a bit tall. She surprisingly gave a decent BBBJ, which got me thinking she might be an illegal immigrant. She refused condomless sex no matter how I tried to pursuade, up to offering 500 baht tip. Finally I left, dejected, but not before asking her if she were Thai. She said 'yes', but looked very obviously like she was lying. She claimed to be from Nakhon Si Thammarat. I pressed the point, teasing her, and she admitted she was from 'Mae Sai'. She would not admit to being Burmese, but I suspect she was.

Afterwards, a mamasan asked me something in Thai - not sure what it was but probably 'are you satisfied'. Perhaps she was experienced enough to discern a lack of post-coital glow upon my visage. I wonder if this report will cause any trouble for this place? I hope not, but I don't care all that much as it didn't offer what I want anyway. What the hell are the Burmese doing, giving girls 'sex education'? Hard to imagine.

There is also another small brothel with older women - obviously Thai - just down the soi from the Bua Luang Hotel, also 300 baht. Lastly, I discovered a couple of the cheap hooker-hotels in town. One was the Nakhorn Hotel, on the street which runs by the train station, just a bit to the south. The other was the Sritong Limited Partnership Hotel, just to the north and opposite the train station. At each about 3 or 4 girls could be seen lounging in front - the price here was 300, but be careful as I was quoted 500-1000 when I first rolled up.

All in all Nakhon Si Thammarat appears to have as much or more mongering as Surat Thani. My own personal impression of these places is that the general atmosphere and attitude of the girls is nowhere near as friendly as back in Pattaya. Service is generally poor - i.e. local style, and the girls no more attractive. Something about people attempting to overcharge extravagantly is a big turnoff. I thought the low-end hotel girls might be service oriented like our much missed Beach girls, but they're more like hardened, mean streetwalkers back home.

[Surfer]

IMHO Obepo has contributed more to this thread than all the so called Thai experts combined (who contribute nothing). Maybe they speak Thai better than Obepo, but he shares his knowledge and experiences while they merely criticize his contributions while adding nothing of use. ThatAsshole has also contributed useful info. Thanks to you two.

[That Asshole]

Some truths about "religions" and women......


Dear Gentlemen,
If you choose to visit the deep-south of Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia you will no doubt be greatly impressed by the extraordinary kindness of the people living there. And their women dress very modestly in public, too.

Surprisingly and quite contrary to the present populated image painted about them as being total monsters and murderers. A large number of these people belong to the religion called "Islam". Do we really know what Islam is?

Surely, as you are a man, you would do your own thinking before accepting propaganda at face value. You are not a woman, and not a homo-sexual. You do not paint your face for getting recognition. You are because you think. So, please think before throwing that stone as you are currently being encouraged to. Will you?
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This report will briefly discuss the following topics:
1. What is religion (any religion)? What is Islam?
2. Why the Islam religion is viciously being attacked by feminist propaganda?
3. Why is it desirable that women act respectfully towards men and appear modestly clothed in public?

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1./ What is religion?

1.1/Religion is a set of beliefs. Everyone has one. Yes, even if you do not profess any formal religion, you still have a set of beliefs and that is "your own religion".

(Unless of course if you are a woman or homo-sexual, in which case you only believe what you see in the mirror, hear on radio or told on TV. But of course then you wouldn't be reading the Forum.)

"Formal religions" are created when a number of beings agree in some points of these beliefs.

1.2/ What is a set of beliefs?

It's simply your programming, and your own way of processing the programming that you receive. It's nothing more than a set of electrical charges in your brain. Were you programmed differently, you would "know" differently.

Two different set of beliefs have exactly the same validity. Because that is just what they are: beliefs, programmed and processed electrical impulses. Nothing more.
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1.3

1.3.1/ Q: In what way is the "Islam set" of electrical programming different from our programming?

A: Some things are the same. They believe that the sky is blue, the earth round, the grass green. The difference is: they believe that the World was made by Someone other than themselves. (Of course, according to our programming we "know" that this is rubbish because we made ourselves, we "happened" by chance first from rock>then fish>then frog>then monki>and the monki became men.)

1.3.2/ They are "primitives" because they believe in things they cannot see, while we "know" that only things that we can see are real. Did you ever see how they pray? They bow down to some invisible thing they cannot see and talk to themselves. Of course, according to our programming, we can clearly see how primitive they are by doing this. The same primitive are the Balinese and the Thais because they bow down to lifeless sculptures and talk to them. We 'know" they are crazy because they talk to a rock. They really should all be in asylums. While we "know" that things we cannot see (or measure) do not exist. Full stop.

1.3.3/ We believe in ourselves, that we became from rock>, then fish> then frog, >then monki. Which means they are all the same: The male/female monki, male/female frog, male/female fish, male/female rock, and male/female man But them "primitives" believe that first was made a man (in his maker's image) and then the woman (as an attachment, as a support).

Therefore the woman must always be humble before the man, never arrogant and never take the leadership role. Her beauty lies in her eagerness to support and serve the men. Her "meat" is simply a statue to her creator. She herself is simply a product and nothing to be proud of.

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2./ Why is Islam so viciously attacked by the "feminist religion"?

2.1/ As we have concluded so far, ultimately two set of beliefs are just equal in validity, they are nothing more than preprogrammed electrical charges arranged in a certain way. See point1.2/ None has validity over the other but all seem "real" from our own point.

As we have also learnt from point 1.3.2/ above, while the islamic "set of beliefs" (as in 1.3.1/) agrees in some basic subjects but beyond that is largely incompatible with the "feminist religion", to the extent that they cannot live together.

We all know the basic concepts of "feminist religion" since we are bombarded with it every day.

2.2/ So, what is your role in this?

So far no doubt you are convinced that one set of beliefs has no validity over another. They are all just electrical charges in your brain. Realizing this now you are free to choose the "set of beliefs" that is more suited for your own purpose. Remember, none is more "true" than the other. However one is more suitable for one group and another set for the other group.

You can decide: Who are you, what are you? Who will you support? The men or the women? Your freedom or your own oppression?

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3. Why should women be modestly clothed in public?

3.1/ We have to realize the three main factors in play here (no, there are not only two of man/woman):

a/ power of women
b/ power of men
c/ power of law

Assuming that both women and men have the power to do anything then there is no problem. Women may appear naked in public and any man may grab their tits and insert fingers in their holes in public, as they wish.

However, the law has been created to empower one and discriminate against the other party. And "enforcing" the law is very profitable business. The creation of new laws is always exciting news for someone who lives from enforcing it. So either way, whether naked appearance is made unlawful for women or if public manhandling is made unlawful for men, the law wins. There will be plenty of profitable business for the law if either side is favored over the other.

In all fairness there are only two "just" solutions:

- either empower both parties to act as they wish, without any legal retaliation in view, or

- limit both parties in their freedom to act, so there will be no temptations and provocations.

As the situation stands at the moment it is not favoring the men the least. It is currently legal in many countries (esp. the US, Europe, etc) for women to endanger men's safety by publicly provoking them and then handing them to the always waiting "law".

The future will ultimately on which "set of beliefs" gets their way (see point 2.1/). But no matter which way, ultimately the "law" wins in any case.

Unless of course "intelligence" wins over meat. You as a sex-tourist can help in that. You are already helping.

[BBBJ]

Hi guys,

I'll be in Hua Hin at the end of December.

Unfortunately I don't see too many recent reports about Hua Hin in this forum.

Would appreciate some information on places where I should go, places to avoid, prices, etc.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

BBBJ

[Kamo33]

buriram + khon kaen + loei

mongers,

just returned from a month long trip to the los and spent some time in isaan.
i got a good friend in buriram and he was able to show me how thai guys like to party. pretty wild.

i think in buriram ( well i guess all of isaan ) it might be kind of tough for a farang to score, unless you speak thai or look like brad pitt. but the chicks are so hot it would be worth the effort. we hung out at speed disco, a local dance hall with lots of hotties. there a local connection offered up what they call 'sideline' girls: students who need the bread. the first girl offered seemed just fine and she joined me 2 hours later at my hotel, the tepnakorn, which my local friend told me was the nicest place in town. anyway, this session with my sideline girl was hot hot hot. oh my. a stunning session. one of the best bangs of my trip. but i choose her again the next night and she leaves after thirty minutes. go figure. (is it just me or do thai women tend to leave a little unfinished business? i experienced it more than once on this trip). following night my bro and i choose new dates, that are delivered for inspection. what's not to like? we adjourn to a local drive-in short time hotel. actually kind of slick and perfect for the deed, very well set-up but kind of funny: no top sheets on the bed. anyway boom boom with this sweet young girl was great but once i came she left. anyway, i was grateful to know her.

like i said, pretty much a local scene. so , get to know some locals.

khon kaen.

only spent a night in khon kaen so didn't get much whoring in but if you find yourself there check out the rad. it's a big party bar complex. it's got a couple of bars in it, so make sure you walk around. one of the bars is a coyote. i liked it. some very friendly and hot girls. not much english but more than you might expect. really, some friendly girls with smiles that can crush you. so grab a dancer and mash it up with her, she'll want a hundred baht every few minutes but trust me, it'll be worth it. there was a bit of ugliness the night we were there though: a jealous exboyfriend (thai) sliced his ex girlfriend's face as she was leaving rad with her farang boyfriend. and the fuck was able to escape. only bit of rough stuff this whole trip.
loei:
also a very local scene but with some good coyotes.(go -gos) check out i robot and times up. you'll have a good time at either place. loei may be the most beautiful province in thailand. it's definitely worth the trip. the only sideline girl i did in loei let me eat her beautiful pussy for an hour and then left. sheeeesh. (ap court, short time hotel) but i was happy to know her. thai girls are so beautiful, they are like a kick in the stomach. and they are everywhere.

sorry my reports don't have more meat to them. i'm still recovering from my trip. i love thailand. if anybody is reading who has never been, just go. and the rest of us just suffer till we can return.

if i can have a good time anybody can. but the money does go fast. local or farang.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.