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Hi guys,
Great reports from my fellow mongers. That helps me to grasp a little of the local culture. I have a job opportunity in Vietnam but still wondering what to do. "Should I stay or should I leave ".
Hey Lexluther, you sound a little judgmental when I read from yours: this stupid frenchman or American women are stupid. Altough your comments remain very interesting.
Anyone here working in the airline industry?
Well, I've been posting for a couple of years about how great the VN women are. But although I've been coming to Saigon for more than 2 years on short business trips, I've never really scored. Never stayed long enough to build any kind of relationships, always been put off by the non-GF hotels, never had time to go hunting and chasing through the bars and clubs, not into the motorbike and seedy 2-hour hotel scene, etc. Still, I've raved for years about how beautiful, leggy, graceful, soft-spoken, feminine, etc., etc. these VN gals are. Well, I just came back from a short trip to Hong Kong and Macau, and my eyes have been opened! Every problem that we run into in VN, simply does not exist in Hong Kong or Macau. Won't go into detail here, but whatever you want is easily available there. And the gals are gorgeous and feminine. Not only VN gals, but also real stunners from China as well as Japan and elsewhere. Real 10+ lookers with legs that just won't quit. Makes me wonder if it's worth all the effort in VN, unless the effort (the "thrill of the chase") is partly what turns you on.
Dragonfly22
03-24-08, 22:51
How can you go to HCMC and not score? You can literally fall off a chair and land in pussy up to your eyesballs. So many girls and so little time is how I see it. The only real problem is keeping them apart. They get too clingy after they have been with you once or twice. Short trips to SaiGon are the best. Check into a small hotel, tell the security guard you want a girl, 10 minutes later your into some trim. Whats the problem?
Well, to be honest, the problem might be partly me. When I'm there on a short business trip, I don't have the time to trawl the HBT bars. And I've tried and don't like the often-sleezy short-term hotels, not to mention that I'm working for a well-known international company and would be fired in a heartbeat if I ever got involved in a hotel room theft or police bust. Some people do very well mongering in VN, and I guess you're one of the lucky ones. My only point was that HK and Macau seem like paradise in comparison with the problems that face the mongerer in VN. Cheers.
How can you go to HCMC and not score? You can literally fall off a chair and land in pussy up to your eyesballs. So many girls and so little time is how I see it. The only real problem is keeping them apart. They get too clingy after they have been with you once or twice. Short trips to SaiGon are the best. Check into a small hotel, tell the security guard you want a girl, 10 minutes later your into some trim. Whats the problem?
Well, to be honest, the problem might be partly me. When I'm there on a short business trip, I don't have the time to trawl the HBT bars. And I've tried and don't like the often-sleezy short-term hotels, not to mention that I'm working for a well-known international company and would be fired in a heartbeat if I ever got involved in a hotel room theft or police bust. Some people do very well mongering in VN, and I guess you're one of the lucky ones. My only point was that HK and Macau seem like paradise in comparison with the problems that face the mongerer in VN. Cheers.
Some people just want it too easy.
If you want to pay around US$300 for a highly commercial experience in HKG rather than US$60 for a natural girl friend experience then that's your choice.
Dragonfly22
03-26-08, 02:32
FW,
The hotels I'm talking about are not sleazy st hotels but simple inexpensive hotels that many people stay in. Cost $25-$35USD.
FW,
The hotels I'm talking about are not sleazy st hotels but simple inexpensive hotels that many people stay in. Cost $25-$35USD.
Just an amplification of this.
The hotels that DF is talking about are the small 1&2* establishments that provide good clean accommodation with very personalised service that includes welcoming your female guests and watching your ass for you.
The sleazy ST hotels that FW is referring to are the places where the gals from the HBT bars will take you. They are indeed sleazy and worse but these are not the same establishments that DF is referring to.
Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places. Please tell me where can I find a natural GFE in Saigon or Hanoi, when I'm in town just for 2 to 3 days?
Some people just want it too easy.
If you want to pay around US$300 for a highly commercial experience in HKG rather than US$60 for a natural girl friend experience then that's your choice.
Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places. Please tell me where can I find a natural GFE in Saigon or Hanoi, when I'm in town just for 2 to 3 days?
2 or 3 days might be a bit tight but I have found willing participants in shop assistants, waitresses, travel assistants, hairdressers, even a girl who runs an antique shop with her father. They all want to practise their english and spend some time in a more monied environment.
One of the more productive things to do is to sit and take coffee on the street around Dong Khoi around 9 AM and smile and say hello to all the girls who pass by going to work. About half will stop and chat and a good proportion will be up for more. Is is a numbers game and some will yield results and some will come to nought.
Do not tell them you are leaving until you are about to go and give them the impression you will be back soon as this gives them a feeling that there will be some continuity.
Many thanks, Sudsoz. That was good advice, and I'll give it a try. But I suspect that not too many of us will have the success rate that you have. You must be a Tom Cruise look-alike! :-)
2 or 3 days might be a bit tight but I have found willing participants in shop assistants, waitresses, travel assistants, hairdressers, even a girl who runs an antique shop with her father. They all want to practise their english and spend some time in a more monied environment.
One of the more productive things to do is to sit and take coffee on the street around Dong Khoi around 9 AM and smile and say hello to all the girls who pass by going to work. About half will stop and chat and a good proportion will be up for more. Is is a numbers game and some will yield results and some will come to nought.
Do not tell them you are leaving until you are about to go and give them the impression you will be back soon as this gives them a feeling that there will be some continuity.
Many thanks, Sudsoz. That was good advice, and I'll give it a try. But I suspect that not too many of us will have the success rate that you have. You must be a Tom Cruise look-alike! :-)No, you don't have to be a TC look-alike to get girls in VN. You just have to be friendly & with a lot of cash. If so many fat & bald Taiwanese in wheelchairs are able to marry the 18 year old virgins, I don't see how normal people like us can't get girls in VN.
If you have only 2-3 day time, Gossip & Catwalk would be your best bet. Be sure to come with a lot of cash with you. These are not your typical motorbike girls.
Sudoz gave you great suggestions. If you're VK or able to speak Vietnamese, Hat Voi Nhau places would not be a bad choice.
My problem is how to keep the normal girls apart.
Good luck hunting.
Many thanks, Sudsoz. That was good advice, and I'll give it a try. But I suspect that not too many of us will have the success rate that you have. You must be a Tom Cruise look-alike! :-)
I am well over fifty, overweight with thinning grey hair - definitely no film star.
The girls are attracted for the other reasons mentioned and if you are nice to them they do respond.
And Playsafe is right because soon you are juggling several and management becomes an issue.
And Playsafe is right because soon you are juggling several and management becomes an issue.Speaking of juggling several girls at the same time, does anyone know of any cell phone that can hold more than one sim card at the same time? It's supposed to work like having several phones on at the same time. It can really solve my problems. I used to carry two cell phones with me at the same time, but now I read it at this site: http://www.intomobile.com/2007/06/15/chinese-phone-with-3-sim-card-slots.html that they're available out there. I wonder if they're available in VN.
After 6 months of livin & lovin in HCMC I've finally takin the plunge and got myself a gf.
She's a total hottie of the type I prefer. Very friendly, reasonable English, honest and obedient.
She's been working as a waitress for a while, she would go with a foreigner maybe once or twice a week, including me. So I figured all the money I've spent on her & others would be best consolidated. So now I give her 5m VND a month for exclusivity and sex on tap. As well she will bring over a friend whenever I want and she's not allowed to go with any guys.
Of course she may well go with other guys but I have warned her if she breaks this rule then it's over. So she's got enough rope to hang herself, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
I've also made it clear there is no other money available for emergencies or anything. She seems happy with all this as she's quit her job now and has some free time.
Can't wait for her to bring over her sister, yum yum!
I'll borrow my housemates camera at some point & post some body pics.
I'll also be saving some money on Vietnamese lessons.
In total I think it's a good deal.
Nonthab
Reality check dude, you must be really young or never been out there.
First, she's a booty call, not a gf. Fixed income for a booty call is a no no
She's a waitress and hooks on the side or should i say hook to live and work to cover up, honest and obedient? think again.
She's not allowed to go with other guys? for free she won't
I've seen a billion guys like you around, many are my friends, the same story and the same ending, and not a good one.
All of this is good for her though!
Damn. If you consider that a girlfriend, I don't even want to know what you think a wife is. LOL
After 6 months of livin & lovin in HCMC I've finally takin the plunge and got myself a gf.
She's a total hottie of the type I prefer. Very friendly, reasonable English, honest and obedient.
She's been working as a waitress for a while, she would go with a foreigner maybe once or twice a week, including me. So I figured all the money I've spent on her & others would be best consolidated. So now I give her 5m VND a month for exclusivity and sex on tap. As well she will bring over a friend whenever I want and she's not allowed to go with any guys.
Of course she may well go with other guys but I have warned her if she breaks this rule then it's over. So she's got enough rope to hang herself, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
I've also made it clear there is no other money available for emergencies or anything. She seems happy with all this as she's quit her job now and has some free time.
Can't wait for her to bring over her sister, yum yum!
I'll borrow my housemates camera at some point & post some body pics.
I'll also be saving some money on Vietnamese lessons.
In total I think it's a good deal.
Nonthab et al,
We must face facts. Once a girl learns the ease with which she can generate cash with that thing between her thighs, she becomes (or should become) a non-candidate for gf or wife. The reason is that as a wife or gf, she will never submit herself to the authority of a man. It's impossible. To her, a man is now a customer. He's someone who wants only one thing from life with her. She can and will make him pay for it as a good hooker should.
She disrespects men and can no longer love them. The first time you and she have an argument, she will (without thinking) fall back on what she knows will work. She will bolt the relationship, knowing that she has no reason to depend on or reason with you. She can always make more than enough money to survive. Why should she put up with your crap?
That's cold and harsh but it's the truth. When push comes to shove, she will remember the good parts of being a hooker (the money) and forget the bad (being a hooker). I know. I've been there and done that.
You may consider taking to wife a "non-professional" woman, the advantages over taking an American wife being:
1.) VN women are beautiful
2.) VN women are approachable and available
3.) VN women are by nature submissive, pliable, and loyal
The problem is that once she comes to the U.S., she will eventually learn the "American way." and all of these advantages will evaporate. This may take some time, but will eventually happen.
Take it from old Lex. He knows from bitter experience.
LexLuther
Speaking of juggling several girls at the same time, does anyone know of any cell phone that can hold more than one sim card at the same time? It's supposed to work like having several phones on at the same time. It can really solve my problems. I used to carry two cell phones with me at the same time, but now I read it at this site: http://www.intomobile.com/2007/06/15/chinese-phone-with-3-sim-card-slots.html that they're available out there. I wonder if they're available in VN.
Someone in Singapore mentioned a device that is one SIM card but it uploads the data from two SIM cards and you can switch seamlessly between them. Never seen one in the flesh.
Technology in VN seems to lag behind in the hardware department so dont hold your breath.
I just keep on swapping cards - and losing them regularly.
Nonthab et al,
We must face facts. Once a girl learns the ease with which she can generate cash with that thing between her thighs, she becomes (or should become) a non-candidate for gf or wife.
LexLuther
I totally agree with Luther. Once they learn the relationship between pussy and money they are a lost cause.
But there are so many more looking for an improvement in their life. NEXT!
5 million VND is $300 USD, right? So this cutie is getting $300 a month from you. I'm curious. Is that a fairly good monthly wage for a VN, or do these "working gals" make much more than that on their own?
After 6 months of livin & lovin in HCMC I've finally takin the plunge and got myself a gf.
She's a total hottie of the type I prefer. Very friendly, reasonable English, honest and obedient.
She's been working as a waitress for a while, she would go with a foreigner maybe once or twice a week, including me. So I figured all the money I've spent on her & others would be best consolidated. So now I give her 5m VND a month for exclusivity and sex on tap. As well she will bring over a friend whenever I want and she's not allowed to go with any guys.
Of course she may well go with other guys but I have warned her if she breaks this rule then it's over. So she's got enough rope to hang herself, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
I've also made it clear there is no other money available for emergencies or anything. She seems happy with all this as she's quit her job now and has some free time.
Can't wait for her to bring over her sister, yum yum!
I'll borrow my housemates camera at some point & post some body pics.
I'll also be saving some money on Vietnamese lessons.
In total I think it's a good deal.
FW Well if they're hookin twice a week at 700k + then she's gettin less from me especially if you include her regular wage.
To those extreme cynics, I will now be spending less money per month than I was bf on girls, I'll pick up Vietnamese faster and I have sex on tap. It's all win for me. If things go bad, as they will sooner or later, I'll flick her & move on, no problem.
So Columpuss you can call her a booty call if you like but as I have been around & had asian gf's before I know what I'm gettin myself into & I have made precautions to ensure I don't come off badly.
I will never take her to my home country, she is my good time while it suits me, when it doesn't it ends.
So lighten up & trust me that I know to a large extent what I'm doing. Of course there will be surprises & I'll deal with them, that's life.
Nonthab,
I always like to meet a man with a positive attitude and who feels that he can overcome every setback which he is likely to experience. However much of this is merely brave talk designed to throwoff criticism. Because you see a man who speaks as confidently as Nonthab does, must see what's coming. He must also understand that it is not girl who is being had but he. Give him six months or a year and I guarantee that he'll be singing the blues and telling other young pups like himself what he has leared. In other words, he'll be a jaded young fellow and will be vowing never again to be made a fool of.
God bless him!
LexLuther
Lex,
What sort of bad things can go wrong in Nonthab's current situation? At worst he loses at on $300 usd a month. How else can she screw him overs? Nonthab do you care if your gf cheats? Girls like those usually cheat, but if you dont mind then its no big deal.
Nonthab,
I always like to meet a man with a positive attitude and who feels that he can overcome every setback which he is likely to experience. However much of this is merely brave talk designed to throwoff criticism. Because you see a man who speaks as confidently as Nonthab does, must see what's coming. He must also understand that it is not girl who is being had but he. Give him six months or a year and I guarantee that he'll be singing the blues and telling other young pups like himself what he has leared. In other words, he'll be a jaded young fellow and will be vowing never again to be made a fool of.
God bless him!
LexLuther
You sound like a nice guy Nonthab and everyone is watching your back.
We could be wrong about you or the girl but, for me, I have the statistics.
You know it's never just 5 mils. The outings, gifts, the sick grandma at home will at least double that figure monthly. That's fine for a girl you are intending to marry. To each his own I guess, I wish you luck.
Someone in Singapore mentioned a device that is one SIM card but it uploads the data from two SIM cards and you can switch seamlessly between them. Never seen one in the flesh.
Technology in VN seems to lag behind in the hardware department so dont hold your breath.
I just keep on swapping cards - and losing them regularly.Samsung has a phone out now that can carry two sim chips, and you can use them both as active.. like line 1 and line 2.. It is expensive though.. but the price will come down.
There are several phones and modifications you can make to put two chips in one phone, but for those phones, only one is "on" at a time.
Joe,
Columpuss stated my case as well as I would have. When you have a VN gal, whether you are married or just living together, there's never an end to what you'll be asked to provide. You're the rich American (or other westerner) and your woman will have no end of problems that you'll have to solve.
That's just for starters. To her, you've committed to a monogamous relationship. Cheat on a VN gal once and see what happens. You may come home and find all your belongings missing if you're lucky. If not your teeth or eyes could be missing. These people play for keeps.
You've been warned. Don't say you didn't know.
LexLuther
Wow pretty scary. Do they actually do physical harm to you if you cheat? What type of threats have you experienced. Thanks again for enlightening us about Vietnamese GFs.
Joe,
Columpuss stated my case as well as I would have. When you have a VN gal, whether you are married or just living together, there's never an end to what you'll be asked to provide. You're the rich American (or other westerner) and your woman will have no end of problems that you'll have to solve.
That's just for starters. To her, you've committed to a monogamous relationship. Cheat on a VN gal once and see what happens. You may come home and find all your belongings missing if you're lucky. If not your teeth or eyes could be missing. These people play for keeps.
You've been warned. Don't say you didn't know.
LexLuther
Joe,
Columpuss stated my case as well as I would have. When you have a VN gal, whether you are married or just living together, there's never an end to what you'll be asked to provide. You're the rich American (or other westerner) and your woman will have no end of problems that you'll have to solve.
That's just for starters. To her, you've committed to a monogamous relationship. Cheat on a VN gal once and see what happens. You may come home and find all your belongings missing if you're lucky. If not your teeth or eyes could be missing. These people play for keeps.
You've been warned. Don't say you didn't know.
LexLutherLexLuther is spot on! I’ve been married to a Vietnamese for 4 years and involved with the community for over ten. In my opinion they have the worst tempers of any culture I’ve seen. Ninety percent of the time my wife is great but when she gets mad, forget about it.
You too S&M! She tried that on me but I was too clever thanks to those years in the service.
I woke up the next morning with a big rock on my chest with some Vietnamese written on it. I knew with was some sort of a spell so I went out to the balcony to throw it out, unbeknownst to me, it was tied to my nuts.
Moral of the story for you greenhorns out there is: never live with a Vietnamese woman on the second floor
Royal Blue
04-01-08, 23:09
You too S&M! She tried that on me but I was too clever thanks to those years in the service.
I woke up the next morning with a big rock on my chest with some Vietnamese written on it. I knew with was some sort of a spell so I went out to the balcony to throw it out, unbeknownst to me, it was tied to my nuts.
Moral of the story for you greenhorns out there is: never live with a Vietnamese woman on the second floorFunny.
I think we're blurring the line here between pro and non-pro (though i realize some of you guys don't think that such a distinction exists).
Vietnam is undergoing another revolution - a sexual one. Now that the government is finally accepting reality and offering sex education in schools hopefully both the number of virgins and the number of AIDS cases will go down.
As Adhome stated, VN women are famous for their tempers. In answer to Joe, don't worry about threats. In my experience VN don't threaten. They will just get very pissed. It should also be noted that along with a fierce temper, VN women have fertile imaginations. As you probably know, the VN family is not like families in the U.S. Their families are what's known as extended families. This means that someone from village X most likely knows everyone else in the village. Their circle of acquaintances is quite large as most of you know.
Some relative or acquaintance will invariably be willing to carry out your girlfriend's plan for vengeance for some small gratuity. No one's going to worry about being found out or prosecuted. Somewhere in the myriad of acquaintances and relationships is a connection to the authorities. Add to that the fact that they are VN and you are in their country. They've endured centuries of what they perceive as abuse at the hands of foreigners. The take home message is that you need to be very careful. Being in VN is not like being in England or Germany.
LexLuther
This forum has some really great information. There are a lot of posters like LexLuther who have real experience with VN women. I turn to those experts now to ask the following question:
I've stayed at the Bong Sen Hotel the last few times I've been in Saigon, and I've used their spa for massages, mainly for the convenience. Anyway, it's the typical massage and happy ending. But when it comes to tipping for the foot massage, or paying for the HJ, the gals never seem to quote a price. I keep asking them to tell me how much. But they always say "Whatever you think." WTF? What's going on? So I don't know how much to pay, and I don't want to appear cheap compared to those Japanese and Korean guys, so I probably wind offering too much. Is this a VN negotiating tactic? Is this the way it's commonly done in most places?
They've endured centuries of what they perceive as abuse at the hands of foreigners.LexLuther
Lex maybe on to something there. Remember Gulf of Tonkin resolution to start an unjust war claiming the vietcong attack US warships in Gulf of Tonkin water and then dump all that Agent Orange toxin on to vietnam to take away vietcong field cover advantage which later the toxin seeped into the soil and all surrounding causing horrific birth defects and health damages. Oh yeah those viet should be pissed at those foreigners.
Icquest, your retort while understood is off base. Mankind is quite horrible at times, always has always will be. Think before you speak.
Cuts both ways huh? well, gee if you don't go starting war with another nation then all this would not had to happened.
its twisted how people go and do this to another peaceful/proud people then 40 yrs later come back to seek out these people female offsprings vagina for pleasure. oh, the smell of hypo.
Icquest, as a Vietnam War veteran, I can still understand your feelings. Some days, I'm on your side, other days, I'm just an old veteran who got much maligned for what we tried to do. Yes, it is abyssmal that one country could reach out their hand to help another country and cause 2 or 3 million of its citizens to die. It is a shame and scar upon our national conscience that will take many years to go away.
Now, all that being said, there is something else. I spent more than 3 years in that war. And yes, I asked to go. My job was to save the lives of American Servicemen, and since over 58, 000 died there, it would seem I didn't do such a good job. I lost two friends to Agent Orange, and one cousin to it. Me? The jury is still out. Do I hate, for all that? No. I do not. The Vietnamese people are among the strongest, most poetic, beautiful people on earth, and even though we gave away that war, I still respect and admire them.
And, in conclusion, if you have really been there, and stood on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai, or Pham Ngu Lao, and took a good look at the beauty walking by you, then you should just shut the hell up. How can one man blame another one for wanting them? Hell, I married myself one. Glad I did it. And, in February while I was there, a friend of mine had us over for dinner. He is a former NVA Officer. In the immortal words of him, Teacher Bao, "that damn war is over! "
Larry L Lizard
04-02-08, 17:33
This forum has some really great information. There are a lot of posters like LexLuther who have real experience with VN women. I turn to those experts now to ask the following question:
I've stayed at the Bong Sen Hotel the last few times I've been in Saigon, and I've used their spa for massages, mainly for the convenience. Anyway, it's the typical massage and happy ending. But when it comes to tipping for the foot massage, or paying for the HJ, the gals never seem to quote a price. I keep asking them to tell me how much. But they always say "Whatever you think." WTF? What's going on? So I don't know how much to pay, and I don't want to appear cheap compared to those Japanese and Korean guys, so I probably wind offering too much. Is this a VN negotiating tactic? Is this the way it's commonly done in most places?I assume you ask how much HJ cost before the deed. Remember they want to earn money. You must not appear too eager. Let her make the first move. They would make suggestive hand movement about your lower belly. Some even blatantly grab your dick.
Here is a typical conversation.
You: how much?
She : how much you give me?
You: I dont know, how much do you want?
she: I dont know blah blah blah
you: if you dont tell me, no baby massage.
she: 500,000? (she smiles and starts fondling your dick now)
you: "Blimy! this is fucking VN, not Tokyo, you must be joking."
she: how much then?
you: 100,000? (she now stops fondling)
she: (pretends to be disgusted) 300,000?
you: No! (say firmly)
she: how much then? (fondling your dick now)
you: ok, 200,000.
she: oookay.
I think 200,000 is reasonable. no more, unless she is good at massage and her attitude is good, maybe you can give a bit more.
LLL
Cuts both ways huh? well, gee if you don't go starting war with another nation then all this would not had to happened.
its twisted how people go and do this to another peaceful/proud people then 40 yrs later come back to seek out these people female offsprings vagina for pleasure. oh, the smell of hypo.
The temperament of the Vietnamese has nothing to do with, and is not geared towards, foreigners. Overall they are good, caring people with extremely strong family values. On the other hand, when they feel they’ve been wronged, they can become quite vengeful. The culture is not something that can be learned from a history book and would take the average Westerner years to truly understand.
I assume you ask how much HJ cost before the deed. Remember they want to earn money. You must not appear too eager. Let her make the first move. They would make suggestive hand movement about your lower belly. Some even blatantly grab your dick.
Here is a typical conversation.
You: how much?
She : how much you give me?
You: I dont know, how much do you want?
she: I dont know blah blah blah
you: if you dont tell me, no baby massage.
she: 500,000? (she smiles and starts fondling your dick now)
you: "Blimy! this is fucking VN, not Tokyo, you must be joking."
she: how much then?
you: 100,000? (she now stops fondling)
she: (pretends to be disgusted) 300,000?
you: No! (say firmly)
she: how much then? (fondling your dick now)
you: ok, 200,000.
she: oookay.
I think 200,000 is reasonable. no more, unless she is good at massage and her attitude is good, maybe you can give a bit more.
LLL
Next time when you wake up after the massage and find a rock on top of your chest. DO NOT open the window and throw the rock out.
Lex maybe on to something there. Remember Gulf of Tonkin resolution to start an unjust war claiming the vietcong attack US warships in Gulf of Tonkin water and then dump all that Agent Orange toxin on to vietnam to take away vietcong field cover advantage which later the toxin seeped into the soil and all surrounding causing horrific birth defects and health damages. Oh yeah those viet should be pissed at those foreigners.
Icquest,
I believe you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say. If you reread my post, you will see that SI mentioned the two important words "centuries" (a long time reaching back well before the U.S./VN war) and "foreigners" (plural). The VN were, for example, a vassal state to the Chinese for one thousand years. Eventually the French would make of VN a colony.
VN, for reasons of geography, ethnography, culture, language, and attitude, has been and may always be an inviting target for other nations. Their experience at the hands of the U.S. is not the only such experience in their history. I'm not arguing that the U.S. did not inflict grievious damage on their nation in a possibly unjust war or that we did not so so for reasons which in hindsight appear to be dubious. But I can't forget the stories which I heard during that war about how they were treated under French rule. I remember in particular the one about the signs posted in parks. This story (perhaps apocryphal) has it that the French posted signs in all parks which prohibited entry by Vietnamese and dogs.
However the important point I am trying to make is that the Vietnamese have throughout their history had a deep psychological sense of victimization. This may be something of which they are not consciously aware. But I believe it may be at the root of their fierce capacity for anger and cruelty in the face of what they perceive as injustice. I'm trying to warn people (especially foreigners) to be very careful in your game playing with Vietnamese women.
LexLuther
Mr. Lizard.....Thanks much for your reply to my question. Very wise advice, and very funny. Sounds like you have the right perspective. Cheers!
I assume you ask how much HJ cost before the deed. Remember they want to earn money. You must not appear too eager. Let her make the first move. They would make suggestive hand movement about your lower belly. Some even blatantly grab your dick.
Here is a typical conversation.
You: how much?
She : how much you give me?
You: I dont know, how much do you want?
she: I dont know blah blah blah
you: if you dont tell me, no baby massage.
she: 500,000? (she smiles and starts fondling your dick now)
you: "Blimy! this is fucking VN, not Tokyo, you must be joking."
she: how much then?
you: 100,000? (she now stops fondling)
she: (pretends to be disgusted) 300,000?
you: No! (say firmly)
she: how much then? (fondling your dick now)
you: ok, 200,000.
she: oookay.
I think 200,000 is reasonable. no more, unless she is good at massage and her attitude is good, maybe you can give a bit more.
LLL
Vietnamese are technically Chinese (Just don't tell them that). They're not laid back like their SE neighbors hence their success as immigrants seen all around the world and their amazing booming economy. Saigon has one of the most exciting commerce atmospheres in the world and they've only been on the free market around 15 years, can't imagine the next 15 years.
Vietnamese are a bit aggressive in general. It could be the result of years of war as Lexluther stated. A friend of mine said it best when we were sitting on a van leaving the airport on our first trip. He said who would ever be stupid enough to wage a war on these people, look at the way they drive, they're not afraid to die.
All in all, most mongers could never have the depth to characterize the people where they come to play. They often deal with people who are at the negative end of the sample pool. Ask those who live and work here, and hear what they have to say.
Whilst I can agree that the Viets tend to be fairly aggressive in business and love and other matters I think it also needs to be said that they are often extremely loyal in those same areas.
I am not sure that the Chinese heritage has all that much influence. The commercial aggression seems to be more prevalent in the South furthest from the chinese border.
I personally believe it is largely an issue of demographics - there are essentially no old people to act as mentors or wise old heads and this gives rise to a more aggressive behaviour across the board.
And if you think the Viets can be aggressive and play pretty tough then spare a thought for the behaviour of the Loatians when they were having their internal problems.
With all due respect to Mr. Columpuss, the Vietnamese are not Chinese. They have fiercely resisted absorbtion by China, Chinese culture and language, and all things Chinese for a very long time. A good friend of mine who was an ARVN medical officer in the 60's and 70's before escaping to the U.S. told me once that although Vietnam was a vassal state of China for nearly 1,000 years, they were proud of the fact that they still spoke Vietnamese.
The importance of this is that they have and love their own culture, language, cuisine (which admittedly owes much to French cuisine), uniquely Vietnamese technology such as farming techniques, etc. While they have adopted some things from Chinese culture, they have kept those things which they felt were important and which uniquely identified them as Vietnamese.
As tragic and regrettable as the "American" war was for Vietnam, the one thing that I believe was good about that war was the introduction of modern technology to Vietnam. This technology (to include better roads, a small nuclear power plant in Dalat, a large number of airstrips and training of Vietnamese pilots on both sides of the conflict, exposure to better medical technology, rural electrification, a better telephone system, the list goes on and on) brought Vietnam from being an essentially medieval culture to a partially modern one. However anyone who was there during that time will attest to the fact that no matter how superior we felt our culture and technology to be, the Vietnamese invariably found amazing and surprising ways to use it not the way we thought it should be used, but to use it in a way which they felt corresponded better to their cultural, technological, and economic conditions.
While there is a great deal of argument about the origins of the Vietnamese people, there is general agreement that they were not Chinese, but that they are genetically and culturally descended from peoples distinct from the Chinese who inhabited Southeast Asia long before the Chinese invaded that area. For those who are really interested in the origins of these unique and enigmatically beautiful people, please check the following URL:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-52722/Vietnam
LexLuther
icquest is not a "native english speaker", ergo, not 'Murcan
However anyone who was there during that time will attest to the fact that no matter how superior we felt our culture and technology to be, the Vietnamese invariably found amazing and surprising ways to use it not the way we thought it should be used, but to use it in a way which they felt corresponded better to their cultural, technological, and economic conditions.
LexLuther
Certainly in the construction industry this adaptation of western technology to local conditions continues at a pace.
Saigon Daze
04-07-08, 11:07
Joe,
Columpuss stated my case as well as I would have. When you have a VN gal, whether you are married or just living together, there's never an end to what you'll be asked to provide. You're the rich American (or other westerner) and your woman will have no end of problems that you'll have to solve.
That's just for starters. To her, you've committed to a monogamous relationship. Cheat on a VN gal once and see what happens. You may come home and find all your belongings missing if you're lucky. If not your teeth or eyes could be missing. These people play for keeps.
You've been warned. Don't say you didn't know.
LexLutherThis doesn't apply to 100% of the Vietnamese women in VN. If you're fortunate, you'll find the right one who isn't as described above. But it will take some looking to find that person.
If you are fortunate, you stay single and monger all over the world!
If you want to lose your fortune, you marry the right one and jerk off all over your sock!
Saigon Daze
04-08-08, 11:12
That's the 64,000 dollar question.Glad I answered it correctly.
Saigon Daze
04-09-08, 14:05
It was a question in need of an answer. ;)As you said, it was a question in need of an answer. I answered correctly when I met my wife.
Ha
Not yet SGDaze! Tell us on your death bed say, many years from now, that you are fortunate.
Cowa Banga
04-14-08, 04:34
Lex,
Vietnam's history has a ton of twists and turns. For about a thousand years, from Hanoi to Hue, this area was considered to be a Chinese vassal. The native population borrowed heavily and cultural coercion also took place. Shoot, look at Tet--very Chinky. Look at the imperial palace at Hue--very Chinky. One other thing, Vietnam's version of Budhism is Mahayanna which is pretty much Chinese Budhism. Once again, very Chinky.
The regions south of Hue were populated with primary the Cham and Khemer people. As the Vietnamese population grew, the Vietnamese warred with Chams and Khmers for the fertile grounds of the Mekong Delta which is south of Hue. The Vietnamese won the war and eventually absorbed the local population. People who are from Hanoi to Hue are very Chinky while people south of Hue are more Khemer and Cham.
As to the Vietnamese aggressive disposition it is a result of war in my humble opinion. I don't think the people feel like victims but they just don't take shit because fighting is their blood. They have been warring since the beginning. War hardens people and makes them tougher.
By the way, the thing about no dogs and Vietnamese. It happened in China not Vietnam so the rumor goes. Historians haven't found any signs saying no dogs or Chinese. Many modern historians believe it was started by Chinese nationlists who wanted to anger the Chinese populace in order to expunge the westerners.
...Vietnam's history has a ton of twists and turns. For about a thousand years, from Hanoi to Hue, this area was considered to be a Chinese vassal. The native population borrowed heavily and cultural coercion also took place. Shoot, look at Tet--very Chinky. Look at the imperial palace at Hue--very Chinky. One other thing, Vietnam's version of Budhism is Mahayanna which is pretty much Chinese Budhism. Once again, very Chinky...
"... very Chinky " ? I suppose that makes you very "Dinky" or very "Slantey"? :rolleyes:
Cowa Banga
04-14-08, 08:19
LOL! For sure, I'm very gooky with a dash of American apple pie.
You are very right Cowa. I was thinking of telling Lex this but you are even better.
Saigon Daze
04-18-08, 13:20
Ha
Not yet SGDaze! Tell us on your death bed say, many years from now, that you are fortunate.I'll save you the wait. I'm fortunate.
Just post your question S&M
Question from me
See an increase of African guys around Pham Ngu Lao. I know they are not normal tourists. I know most are not working in VN except for a few soccer players and teachers, and they are non of those. Since Vietnam is very strict with visitors as far as visa extension, how do these guys hang around?
Zackary Kr
04-29-08, 08:16
Historians haven't found any signs saying no dogs or Chinese. Many modern historians believe it was started by Chinese nationlists who wanted to anger the Chinese populace in order to expunge the westerners.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Interesting that you mention that. I was always under the assumption that the japanese soldiers who had occupied parts of China were the ones who put up the signs of "No dogs or chinese". It brings to mind the movie "Fists of Fury" with Bruce Lee.
In that movie, Bruce tore down the sign outrage and subsequently kicked some japanese butt.
Cowa Banga
05-01-08, 21:12
To be exact, they are Nigerian drug dealers who are in league with the local mob.
How do you know they are drug dealers or even Nigerian for that as a matter of fact? I think Vietnam is very harsh on drug dealers and it would be pretty stupid for Nigerians to come over to Vietnam to deal drugs where they would stand out like an eyesore. Nigerians can deal drugs in many other countries and make more money than in Saigon.
To be exact, they are Nigerian drug dealers who are in league with the local mob.
Cowa Banga
05-02-08, 20:29
Joe,
Budha told me that's how I know.
On the serious side, when you go enough times and meet enough people who live there, they will open up.
Royal Blue
05-08-08, 05:49
Conflicting opinions everywhere.
Maybe it's a matter of outlook?
Can anyone direct me to any pictures of vietnamese with big tits on here?
And what are the chances of finding a Vietnamese with big tits in vietnam?
Thank you all.
Can anyone direct me to any pictures of vietnamese with big tits on here?
And what are the chances of finding a Vietnamese with big tits in vietnam?
Thank you all.This is about the biggest I found when I was there. Nice size, but not what you would probably call big.
This is about the biggest I found when I was there. Nice size, but not what you would probably call big.
These big enough? Last years stock at NY Saigon in HCMC. No longer in biz.
Berty Russ
05-31-08, 13:56
Can anyone direct me to any pictures of vietnamese with big tits on here?
And what are the chances of finding a Vietnamese with big tits in vietnam?
Thank you all.Check out the lead signer in Saigon Saigon Bar atop the Caravelle hotel. I assume she is filipina, however. Mai at Smiley Bar has an incredible, natural, rack.
i have came back to vn over 10 times lately. each time i spent there was approx 4-6 weeks. i feel sorry for you foreigners. i just want to give some tips. believe me and take it or leave it, it's up to you.
1. never pay money until you are done with sex. many girls will ask for money up front but show them that you do have the money but tell them that you pay after the sex.
2. always ask for the girl's id. many girls are ****d and you don't want that.
3. many freelancers and street girls are much better than high end club girls such as new world (catwalk) or fortuna (boss). those called themselves high class hookers suck. they asked for too much money and can't perform shit. their pussy are fucked up. foreigners are usually go for them but native guys don't. those girls charge a lot cuz they think foreigners are sex maniac and they are "huge" that can mess up their pevic bones. most girls don't want to go with foreigners even though they get paid much higher.
4. prices are varied. however, i will list the standard price below. trust me, always bargain. they usually asked for 2x the price.
st. 1-3 hrs, 1 shot to as many shots. need to deal with them before accept the price. again never pay money until done.
street girl. 18 yr. 25 yrs. 100k vnd to 150k vnd st all night 250k. 300k
stay away from foreigner place such as de tham or backpacking district. they blow up the price 4x but they go with standard price with the local and late at nite with they got no deal.
free lance 18 yr. 25 yrs old st 200k. 300k all night. 500k
free lance (good quality or working at club) st 300k. 500k all night. 500k. 1. 2 mil average 700k to 1mil
high end club girls all night. 100 usd. 200 usd, i wouldn't pay more than 150usd.
massage place: massage bbbj. ticket (about 70k vnd + 50k. 100k tip). i usually tip 200k for 2x full service. (tip 100k. 150k per fuck). i usually tip 300k for bbbj, fuck, bbbj, fuck.
free fuck and gfe: go to club, order cognac, talk nice to the girls, tips her well, like 200k. 300k. she will go out with you and usually she won't ask for money.
just don't lie to the girls so that you get to fuck them for free. be honest. i'll write more in a bit.
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
These big enough? Last years stock at NY Saigon in HCMC. No longer in biz.
Update - she gave up doing tricks because of stomach and other female problems. Now works behind bar at NY Saigon - name Linh.
PoopieMunster
07-01-08, 04:44
Samsung has a phone out now that can carry two sim chips, and you can use them both as active.. like line 1 and line 2.. It is expensive though.. but the price will come down.
There are several phones and modifications you can make to put two chips in one phone, but for those phones, only one is "on" at a time.I have the Samsung D880. The problem with the SS phone is that if you have 2 Super Sims (Sims that Contacts in 3 different memory banks of 250 each for a total of 750 Contacts), then the fone will load up all 1500 contacts. The current price in VN is set at a little less then 6 mil. Personally I have traded the SS in for a cheaper and less known brand phone which only loads the top 250 Contacts, that way I can hide all my dirty secret numbers. I don't know about other places, but in VN alone now, there are at least 4 phones that have live dual Sim, meaning that you can make and receive calls from both Sims without having to switch back and forth.
i have the samsung d880. the problem with the ss phone is that if you have 2 super sims (sims that contacts in 3 different memory banks of 250 each for a total of 750 contacts), then the fone will load up all 1500 contacts. the current price in vn is set at a little less then 6 mil. personally i have traded the ss in for a cheaper and less known brand phone which only loads the top 250 contacts, that way i can hide all my dirty secret numbers. i don't know about other places, but in vn alone now, there are at least 4 phones that have live dual sim, meaning that you can make and receive calls from both sims without having to switch back and forth.i gave up getting a dual sim card phone. i think it's way too expensive. i just brought an used phone for $30. it works just fine. i put all the "fun" phone numbers there. i just put in on silent mode when i don't want them to bother me.
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
This started out as a discussion about how to manage a phone full of girls numbers without the girls or (worse) a wife finding out. Someone suggested having an ordinary SIM card and a separate mongering SIM card and the discussion went from there.
Hi guys,
I just did a search of the forum and couldn't get the answer I was looking for so I'm approaching you.
I'm a Brit who is planning a short trip to Vietnam in the third week of September. I was recently told by an American friend who was there last year that you could get a visa at the airport. Is this true? Mind you it took him almost two hours to process. He puts it down to the fact that he was American.
Can Brits get a visa on entry to Vietnam?
If not, what do you suggest? I live in the Middle East in a country where there is no Vietnamese embassy.
Also, could you recommend a good travel agency that I could book a reasonable hotel through? I'm looking for a medium cheap hotel, nothing special.
I've seen from the forum that the Liberty chain are reasonable, what are the latest views on this. I noticed that Allez Boo has reopened. Is this connected in any way to Liberty 3?
Cheers,
Expatcat
I was often in Thailand, sometimes in the Philippines and Indonesia, but never in Vietnam or Cambodia. From the Photo section in the Vietnam Forum I can't say that the girls look more pretty than Thai girl. But, often I heared that Vietnamese girls look better than Thais (in average). Can somebody tell what destinate he likes more Vietnam vs Thailand, or Bangkok vs HCMC?
Hi guys,
I just did a search of the forum and couldn't get the answer I was looking for so I'm approaching you.
I'm a Brit who is planning a short trip to Vietnam in the third week of September. I was recently told by an American friend who was there last year that you could get a visa at the airport. Is this true? Mind you it took him almost two hours to process. He puts it down to the fact that he was American.
Can Brits get a visa on entry to Vietnam?
If not, what do you suggest? I live in the Middle East in a country where there is no Vietnamese embassy.
Also, could you recommend a good travel agency that I could book a reasonable hotel through? I'm looking for a medium cheap hotel, nothing special.
I've seen from the forum that the Liberty chain are reasonable, what are the latest views on this. I noticed that Allez Boo has reopened. Is this connected in any way to Liberty 3?
Cheers,
Expatcat
Google "vietnam visa" to get it online.
I was often in Thailand, sometimes in the Philippines and Indonesia, but never in Vietnam or Cambodia. From the Photo section in the Vietnam Forum I can't say that the girls look more pretty than Thai girl. But, often I heared that Vietnamese girls look better than Thais (in average). Can somebody tell what destinate he likes more Vietnam vs Thailand, or Bangkok vs HCMC?I have been to Thailand many times over several years, and only to VN both Hanoi and HCMC once earlier this year.
I thought there overall were more pretty girls in VN. Of course many in Thailand, but also many ugly ones (sorry to be so blunt).
Things are not as out in the open in VN and you need to be there awhile to find your way around and make contacts. Hanoi was terrible, but HCMC was "ok"
I would not go there if only for mongering. BKK or other cities in Thailand are much easier to find what you are looking for. Cost is similiar.
Traveler1234
08-15-08, 01:03
Hi guys,
I'm a Brit who is planning a short trip to Vietnam in the third week of September. I was recently told by an American friend who was there last year that you could get a visa at the airport. Is this true? Mind you it took him almost two hours to process. He puts it down to the fact that he was American.
Can Brits get a visa on entry to Vietnam?
Find the Vietnam consular or embassy site to check re British citizens. FWIW, Yanks need a visa and must apply ahead of time.
Travelocity does a pretty good job of listing decent 3 star hotels in both HMCM and Hanoi - check them out.
Hi guys,
I just did a search of the forum and couldn't get the answer I was looking for so I'm approaching you.
I'm a Brit who is planning a short trip to Vietnam in the third week of September. I was recently told by an American friend who was there last year that you could get a visa at the airport. Is this true? Mind you it took him almost two hours to process. He puts it down to the fact that he was American.
Can Brits get a visa on entry to Vietnam?
If not, what do you suggest? I live in the Middle East in a country where there is no Vietnamese embassy.
Also, could you recommend a good travel agency that I could book a reasonable hotel through? I'm looking for a medium cheap hotel, nothing special.
I've seen from the forum that the Liberty chain are reasonable, what are the latest views on this. I noticed that Allez Boo has reopened. Is this connected in any way to Liberty 3?
Cheers,
Expatcat
Here's a few sites that you can look for hotels in Vietnam.
http://www.vietnamtourism.com/e_pages/service/hotels-p.asp
http://www.travelvietnamhotels.com/
The hotel below is right next to Ben Thanh Market. So it's right in the center of the city. You can check out their website.
A&EM Hotel
http://www.a-emhotel.com/home.html
Tel: (848) 8233364
I was often in Thailand, sometimes in the Philippines and Indonesia, but never in Vietnam or Cambodia. From the Photo section in the Vietnam Forum I can't say that the girls look more pretty than Thai girl. But, often I heared that Vietnamese girls look better than Thais (in average). Can somebody tell what destinate he likes more Vietnam vs Thailand, or Bangkok vs HCMC?
To be honest, I haven't been to Thailand so I couldn't compare. But here are a few pictures so you can be the judge of it. Some of these girls are working, others just like to hook up with a foreigner.
Model Chaser
08-15-08, 14:09
#037 is quite stunning.
To be honest, I haven't been to Thailand so I couldn't compare. But here are a few pictures so you can be the judge of it. Some of these girls are working, others just like to hook up with a foreigner.
Ah, very nice pictures and I agree with model chaser 37 is hot. Never the less I can't see there the typical differences between Thai girls and VN girls. Except the girl on the last photo whose might have some mixed blood.
Girls from Indonesia (or better to saw Java) have often lighter skin and not so flat faces than Thais. Bali girls are often like a mix from north Indian and Malay people. Girls from Indonesia and Malaysia have often a more voluptious body than Thais. Ok, there are differences within Thailand as well. Foreign monger have othen Isaan girls and not the lighter Sukothai /Chang Mai girl. But, in general my impression was that Indonesian /Malay girls have a better waist to hips ratio and rounder butts and titts. Philippine girls are more like Indonesian girl. But, as in Indonesia, as well as in the Philippines there are many quite short girls (maybe not enough food, during childhood) whose of course are not very tempting. Saw in Thailand in the past often some girls from Laos whose often was extremly pretty. Girls from Cambodia whose I met in Thailand were imho similar looking like Thai girls.
So, for that long text, I am a hobby ethnologist, I guess.
One thing let me hesitate to fly to Vietnam and that is the Visa. Don't like it when I don't get a Visa at arrival. Maybe I fly first to Thailand and than via PP to HCMC.
Member #2041
08-16-08, 01:12
19-01-06 is not too shabby either. I don't think that I'd kick any of those girls out of bed for eating rice, but the first and the last are pretty special.
Joe Nailer
08-17-08, 10:28
They are often sort of butterface (there are exceptions of course), but I find VN girls having stunning bodies, long legs, nice bum and firm rack, but they keep these figures up to lets say 30 yo. After that, it seems they deteriorate pretty fast like western women who are probably out of shape after their early 20's. VN girls tend to have a broader nose but if she has a narrower nose, she probably has some Chinese blood. VN girls I have associated with so far are non p4p (some have got the mentality of p4p though).
I have been to BKK a number of times over last 9 months or so. So far I only sampled p4p girls and they are probably all from the Issarn region. So I can't compare apple for apple. But I can say this confidently; p4p scene in BKK/LOS is much more advanced than HCMC/VN, as such gives you more value for money.
Ah,sounds not bad, I like girls with long legs and round asses. But, I always had the impression that Thai /Isaan girls have broader noses than the girls from other countries in that area. If VN girls have even broader Noses than Thai girls than this would be a draw back.
I have been to BKK a number of times over last 9 months or so. So far I only sampled p4p girls and they are probably all from the Issarn region. So I can't compare apple for apple. But I can say this confidently; p4p scene in BKK/LOS is much more advanced than HCMC/VN, as such gives you more value for money.
As you mentioned you cant compare apple for apple so comparing the Thai scene to the VN scence is like comparing an apple to an orange.
Afterall, Vietnam is still a communist country wherby prostituition is illegal and is a chargeble offence with jail time.
Joe Nailer
08-22-08, 16:08
As you mentioned you cant compare apple for apple so comparing the Thai scene to the VN scence is like comparing an apple to an orange.
Afterall, Vietnam is still a communist country wherby prostituition is illegal and is a chargeble offence with jail time.
If the political system in whatever country worries you, I suggest you stay well away.
Yes, you are correct, you can be arrested if you are with a VN girl in your hotel. Hotel people will check whom you are with and report to the local police everyday. :)
So dont come to VN for mongering.
If the political system in whatever country worries you, I suggest you stay well away.
Yes, you are correct, you can be arrested if you are with a VN girl in your hotel. Hotel people will check whom you are with and report to the local police everyday. :)
So dont come to VN for mongering.
That statement about hotels is simply not true.
There are GF hotels but they are not mentioned openly on this board for obvious reasons. But enough information has been provided that you can easily figure it out.
Two nights ago I got a call from reception just before midnight from reception to say that they had been tipped off about a police raid on hotels in the street. They gave me a choice - take an extra room or my gal could go. When I told my gal she was scared and decided to go.
These hotels take the girl's ID when she arrives and if she leaves without you they call to make sure that everything is OK. Never got that service in Singapore or Bangkok.
My view is that Vietnam can take a bit of work to get organised but the results can be very pleasant.
Joe Nailer
08-27-08, 14:46
That statement about hotels is simply not true.
There are GF hotels but they are not mentioned openly on this board for obvious reasons. But enough information has been provided that you can easily figure it out.
Two nights ago I got a call from reception just before midnight from reception to say that they had been tipped off about a police raid on hotels in the street. They gave me a choice - take an extra room or my gal could go. When I told my gal she was scared and decided to go.
These hotels take the girl's ID when she arrives and if she leaves without you they call to make sure that everything is OK. Never got that service in Singapore or Bangkok.
My view is that Vietnam can take a bit of work to get organised but the results can be very pleasant.
The point I was making is this:
Regardless of GF or not, all hotels and service apartments in VN are required by law of reporting to the local police as to what time you left and returned to the premises. If you take in a VN girl to the premises, as you say the girl must leave her ID at the reception. I heard even that a VN person visits his/her VN friend and stays beyond midnight, the chance of police raid would increase as a suspicion of the illicit activity. If this is between a man and a woman, even more so. I think most of Vietnamese people know this. I think it is illegal regardless for a man and a woman to f*** each other unless they are married to each other. But it does not mean this is not happening. Quite opposite. In fact my boss, a married man, is having an affair with his junior colleague. So nothing is impossible, as long as you are aware of the risk.
Being cynical, the tip-off "service" you received was to just frame you for extra money in the way of renting another room? ;)
I am not sure if a tip-off service are required in BKK. I havent heard of any police raids in BKK. Is there any posts in ISG forum?
Can Brits get a visa on entry to Vietnam? I doubt it. The first visa hurdle occurs before you even take off. The airline checkout desk will check your passport to ensure you have a visa. If you don't, you will be denied boarding. They have to be as tough as nails because if you don't have the right docu, the immigration authorities in the destination country send you straight back - at the airline's expense.
That sounds like a tall story - about your american friend who got a visa on arrival.
There has to be a representative office of some sort in your country of departure. Check the vietnam embassy website for representative offices worldwide.
Thanks JL, and thanks also to all the other contributers who provided valuable information.
With regard to the visa, working on info given, I have organised a visa in advance.
As fate would have it though, it looks like the trip will be postponed since my car has died and I have to replace it. There goes my discretionary cash to spend on holiday.
Bummer. I'll reschedule for later in the year.
Thanks again for everyone's help.
Cheers,
Expatcat
Fritobugger
09-10-08, 08:28
I doubt it. The first visa hurdle occurs before you even take off. The airline checkout desk will check your passport to ensure you have a visa. If you don't, you will be denied boarding. They have to be as tough as nails because if you don't have the right docu, the immigration authorities in the destination country send you straight back - at the airline's expense.
That sounds like a tall story - about your american friend who got a visa on arrival.
There has to be a representative office of some sort in your country of departure. Check the vietnam embassy website for representative offices worldwide.
I get a business visa upon entry due to my work with a local company but it has to be arranged before arrival by the local company.
That sounds like a tall story - about your american friend who got a visa on arrival.
No, it's probably not a tall story. I'm in VN and know of at least 2 services that arrange visas on arrival. They fax a letter to the customer in their country that can be presented when arriving in VN, and then the visa is issued. It must also be good for boarding. I think a friend of mine actually used that service, too, now that I think. He was in China before, but is American. He received the fax there in China.
Shadow6491
09-12-08, 02:16
Yes the Visa on arrival is possible. All of the different Visa's are available from a one month single entry to a 12 month multi entry.
You do indeed need a leter of Authorization before you enter the country however. This letter can be obtained from some travel agencies ie Vietnam Explorer Travel in Hanoi or Space Tour in Saigon. The cost of this Authorization letter is $25 for a one week service or $30 for a express service one or two days. You do need to pay the travel agency for this so it can be a little bit difficult. You will need to provide the travel agency with all of your passport details and a photocopy of the front page. They will then send you the Authorization letter which will have many names on it as well as yours, and a Application for Entry form which you give to the Airport guys with one passport sized photo.
If your pushed for time this can be a great service also if you dont want to mail your passport off to the nearest embassy a good way to go.
I used this service last week and it all went very smoothly.
Explorerman
09-22-08, 04:06
Yes the Visa on arrival is possible. All of the different Visa's are available from a one month single entry to a 12 month multi entry.
You do indeed need a leter of Authorization before you enter the country however. This letter can be obtained from some travel agencies ie Vietnam Explorer Travel in Hanoi or Space Tour in Saigon. The cost of this Authorization letter is $25 for a one week service or $30 for a express service one or two days. You do need to pay the travel agency for this so it can be a little bit difficult. You will need to provide the travel agency with all of your passport details and a photocopy of the front page. They will then send you the Authorization letter which will have many names on it as well as yours, and a Application for Entry form which you give to the Airport guys with one passport sized photo.
If your pushed for time this can be a great service also if you dont want to mail your passport off to the nearest embassy a good way to go.
I used this service last week and it all went very smoothly.I also have had good experience. I got visa on arrival once, and a pre-arranged visa another time.
That time, I forgot to bring passport photos for the visa application, which is done on-site at Immigration. No worries -- for a small fee, the immigration guy became a photographer, snapped my picture, and handled everythign smoothly.
Newbie From Vza
09-24-08, 18:50
I doubt it. The first visa hurdle occurs before you even take off. The airline checkout desk will check your passport to ensure you have a visa. If you don't, you will be denied boarding. They have to be as tough as nails because if you don't have the right docu, the immigration authorities in the destination country send you straight back - at the airline's expense.
That sounds like a tall story - about your american friend who got a visa on arrival.
There has to be a representative office of some sort in your country of departure. Check the vietnam embassy website for representative offices worldwide.My experiance of immigration officers in HCMC airport is a pleasent one :
My company got my business visa from Vietnam embassy in Bangkok. How ever a strange, funny thing happened in HCMC airport. The visa mentioned the date from which my visa will be valid for 6 months. By mistake our secretary booked a flight for me a day in advance. It was purely an oversight on our behalf and learnt about it when I landed in HCMC airport. The immigration officer there was a lady and she informed me that I should not enter Vietnam till tomorrow. It was then that I noticed the valid dates on my visa. I apologized her for the trouble and explained to her that as I was busy I did not check the dates and if required I am ready to leave. She discussed the issue with her superiors and said its OK. It took her 5 min to talk to her superior. Their pleasant manners was the first good impression I got of Vietnam and it still remains with me to date. I left Vietnam one year later. Interestingly even the checkout desk in Bangkok airport also did not notice the dates. They checked the validity of visa before I boarded the plane.
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Ok this goes to show how subtle and interesting Vietnam can be.
Have stayed in a hotel in DaLat a few times and had good but harmless dialogue with a young married girl that worked there. Had further quite innocent dialogue by email since, and then after she moved to HCMC, had some emails about problems with her Viet hubby. Still i'm just coasting, staying in touch because i'm thinking - "you never know!" Last time i was in VN i went and said hello to here at her workplace, even though i had family and friends in tow. So she has met everyone on my side!
Now switch to Sydney 6 months after my last visit. I get a call from her - in Sydney! She has saved for a holiday, managed to get a visa with reccomendations from people in VN. Called me the day after she arrived!
I very quickly found a reason to spend a few days working in Sydney, and proceeded to have the best few days, very warm, expressive, hotsex and GFE.
She says she knows it can't go any further, but she had broken up with her husband and she just needed to know she was still attractive and still had some chance to find another guy that might be a chance for family etc.
I can tell you this girl had the package. perfect breasts, small body. Just a bit of baggage regarding her marriage bust but likely when someone finds her she will soon get over that!
Vietnamese girls are very special!
Ozirob
Joe Nailer
12-19-08, 19:09
Hi chaps, (and chapresses)
My ex girl friend is visiting me in Vietnam via Sydney and HK, arriving next Tuesday. She is English but lives in NZ, and arranged her trip thru a travel agency in Wellington who has cocked all up (as she put it) the VN entry visa; they got her a OZ visa instead of a VN visa. She did not realise this until she got to the airport. OZ is only transit and so a OZ visa should not be required. My questions :
1/ Can she (and my daughter) get a visa at the immigration at Tan Son Nhat airport? No, she has not pre arranged the visa documents.
2/ Only alternative seems to be to get it in HK. They arrive in HK this Saturday (today). So Vn embassy in HK must be closed until Monday morning. How quickly can she get VN visas at embassy in HK? My Ex and my daughter are leaving for HCMC on Tuesday afternoon. HAs anyone done this before?
Any information?
Any help would be much appreciated.
She wants to go to Disney place in HK. But she is probably spending much time on trying to get visas instead.
Oh dear... wo*en (oops...) ;)
Hi chaps, (and chapresses)
My ex girl friend is visiting me in Vietnam via Sydney and HK, arriving next Tuesday. She is English but lives in NZ, and arranged her trip thru a travel agency in Wellington who has cocked all up (as she put it) the VN entry visa; they got her a OZ visa instead of a VN visa. She did not realise this until she got to the airport. OZ is only transit and so a OZ visa should not be required. My questions :
1/ Can she (and my daughter) get a visa at the immigration at Tan Son Nhat airport? No, she has not pre arranged the visa documents.
2/ Only alternative seems to be to get it in HK. They arrive in HK this Saturday (today). So Vn embassy in HK must be closed until Monday morning. How quickly can she get VN visas at embassy in HK? My Ex and my daughter are leaving for HCMC on Tuesday afternoon. HAs anyone done this before?
Any information?
Any help would be much appreciated.
She wants to go to Disney place in HK. But she is probably spending much time on trying to get visas instead.
Oh dear... wo*en (oops...) ;)
VN visas in Australia take about 10 days and I used to get a travel agent in Singapore to get them in 3-4 with an extra fee. I would think HKG would be similar to SIN.
For visa on arrival you need to set up invitation letters and other documents in advance for processing. The only difference is that you don't send your passport and put visa in when you arrive.
Dragonfly22
12-20-08, 02:58
I know some of the guys frown on establishing freebies but have to tell my tale. Met a little lady 28yo on a dating site. Quickly turns into frequent emails. So I tell her I'm coming to town and we meet up, does she have a friend for my friend? Of course, we spend 3 days at a resort in Mui Ne and another in HCMC with no pricetag attached. Quite the hot gf experience and more. Great body but so so in the looks. Had a wonderful time and no crying about sick relatives who need money. My friends luck was not so good. The last day she whined about her sick mom but my friend held firm...seems his CC wasn't working in VN and was short on cash. I guess YMMV is the caveat here but this lil tale worked out well for us.
I know some of the guys frown on establishing freebies but have to tell my tale. Met a little lady 28yo on a dating site. Quickly turns into frequent emails. So I tell her I'm coming to town and we meet up, does she have a friend for my friend? Of course, we spend 3 days at a resort in Mui Ne and another in HCMC with no pricetag attached. Quite the hot gf experience and more. Great body but so so in the looks. Had a wonderful time and no crying about sick relatives who need money. My friends luck was not so good. The last day she whined about her sick mom but my friend held firm...seems his CC wasn't working in VN and was short on cash. I guess YMMV is the caveat here but this lil tale worked out well for us.
Well I for one don't frown on freebies. In fact I lap them up. But just don't think that they are free. I buy the miniature perfumes duty free and give the individual bottles out as gifts.
To me that is the huge difference between BKK and SGN - the ability to have a real GFE experience. Even the new girls in the bars will treat you with warmth and affection that a BKK bargirl could never muster.
Hi chaps, (and chapresses)
My ex girl friend is visiting me in Vietnam via Sydney and HK, arriving next Tuesday. She is English but lives in NZ, and arranged her trip thru a travel agency in Wellington who has cocked all up (as she put it) the VN entry visa; they got her a OZ visa instead of a VN visa. She did not realise this until she got to the airport. OZ is only transit and so a OZ visa should not be required. My questions :
1/ Can she (and my daughter) get a visa at the immigration at Tan Son Nhat airport? No, she has not pre arranged the visa documents.
2/ Only alternative seems to be to get it in HK. They arrive in HK this Saturday (today). So Vn embassy in HK must be closed until Monday morning. How quickly can she get VN visas at embassy in HK? My Ex and my daughter are leaving for HCMC on Tuesday afternoon. HAs anyone done this before?
Any information?
Any help would be much appreciated.
She wants to go to Disney place in HK. But she is probably spending much time on trying to get visas instead.
Oh dear... wo*en (oops...) ;)
It is easier now arriving without a visa. I once read about someone who has his processed fresh at the immigration counter and it doesn't take long.
Another way is to find a reputable travel agency in HK who can start the process on Monday and send it to VN, she might be able to pick it up upon arriving.
Worst case scenario, and I doubt that it will happen, if anything else fail, immigration will send you to a nearby 3 star hotel, government owned, and keeps you over night until they are done processing, which is usually the next day. The facility is nice and has good food, but you are not allowed to walk too far from it since you are technically in detention. Good luck
Just had dinner on Pham Ngu Lao (best and most reasonable priced soup for the locationis at 323). On way there , past Allez Boo approached and girl opened with USD 30 ST.Mate said no, arms too skinny, could be a druggie.
Anyway after dinner while walking back, another petite thing said USD $30 (510,000). Friend chatted in Vietnamese, and deal struck for 300,000 dong which is the local price. Between Duna Hotel, and 323, it is hard not to be offered something. Just be aware of this pricing differential for foreigners.
Believe price range to 300 to 500K is the real local rate as at December 2008.
As the streets are really jammed packed with people shopping, I guess a few more freelances are out garnering Christmas cash. Walking for health reasons is as noble excuse as any.
Joe Nailer
12-22-08, 13:03
It is easier now arriving without a visa. I once read about someone who has his processed fresh at the immigration counter and it doesn't take long.
Another way is to find a reputable travel agency in HK who can start the process on Monday and send it to VN, she might be able to pick it up upon arriving.
Worst case scenario, and I doubt that it will happen, if anything else fail, immigration will send you to a nearby 3 star hotel, government owned, and keeps you over night until they are done processing, which is usually the next day. The facility is nice and has good food, but you are not allowed to walk too far from it since you are technically in detention. Good luck
Columpuss and Sudsoz
Thanks for the info.
"send you to a nearby 3 star hotel" - I can imagine that. Vietnamese are good at these things; very flexible.
I have not heard from her if they got visas or not. There is nothing more I can do. :(
Anyway, thanks for help.
Spanish Main
01-11-09, 17:46
My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living in a small villa on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.
We plan to be there in June.
Bartsinsf0200
01-22-09, 16:08
I have searched for a specific answer, but still seem unclear on how difficult it is to bring someone back to the sofitel metropole. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
I have searched for a specific answer, but still seem unclear on how difficult it is to bring someone back to the sofitel metropole. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
Definitely not GF at night. Afternoons/evenings not so sure.
Alwayshard45
01-28-09, 04:11
I have searched for a specific answer, but still seem unclear on how difficult it is to bring someone back to the sofitel metropole. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!NOT GF! Even in the day time there have been issues.
Going to HCMC next week for a week stay cum work.
Please PM me any contacts so as I can have an unforgetful time in HCMC.
Thanks
Hi Guys,
I shall be in HCM on Feb. 15th, for 38 days. Finally! I missed Tet due to having to change my airline ticket over complications here in the states. Anyway, this year, I have made a vow to my Nephew there in HCM, who is a College Sophmore, that I am going to take him out and get him laid. I figure, what the hell, we might as well make it a party! Ha ha ha ha Sudz, Wendella, please PM me your contact info, and lets get together and break some bread and hoist a few! Any of you guys who live there and will be there between Feb. 15th and March 20th, PM me here and give me some contact info. I will buy a few drinks! My pleasure!
hi toplord
nice report - but could you please name the best cities and the best places to get streetwalkers and freelancers???
we will travel tru vietnam in july for 3 weeks and i hope to get some super short actions while my other part is resting in the hotel.. all ideas are welcome.
ronald
i have came back to vn over 10 times lately. each time i spent there was approx 4-6 weeks. i feel sorry for you foreigners. i just want to give some tips. believe me and take it or leave it, it's up to you.
1. never pay money until you are done with sex. many girls will ask for money up front but show them that you do have the money but tell them that you pay after the sex.
2. always ask for the girl's id. many girls are ****d and you don't want that.
3. many freelancers and street girls are much better than high end club girls such as new world (catwalk) or fortuna (boss). those called themselves high class hookers suck. they asked for too much money and can't perform shit. their pussy are fucked up. foreigners are usually go for them but native guys don't. those girls charge a lot cuz they think foreigners are sex maniac and they are "huge" that can mess up their pevic bones. most girls don't want to go with foreigners even though they get paid much higher.
4. prices are varied. however, i will list the standard price below. trust me, always bargain. they usually asked for 2x the price.
st. 1-3 hrs, 1 shot to as many shots. need to deal with them before accept the price. again never pay money until done.
street girl. 18 yr. 25 yrs. 100k vnd to 150k vnd st all night 250k. 300k
stay away from foreigner place such as de tham or backpacking district. they blow up the price 4x but they go with standard price with the local and late at nite with they got no deal.
free lance 18 yr. 25 yrs old st 200k. 300k all night. 500k
free lance (good quality or working at club) st 300k. 500k all night. 500k. 1. 2 mil average 700k to 1mil
high end club girls all night. 100 usd. 200 usd, i wouldn't pay more than 150usd.
massage place: massage bbbj. ticket (about 70k vnd + 50k. 100k tip). i usually tip 200k for 2x full service. (tip 100k. 150k per fuck). i usually tip 300k for bbbj, fuck, bbbj, fuck.
free fuck and gfe: go to club, order cognac, talk nice to the girls, tips her well, like 200k. 300k. she will go out with you and usually she won't ask for money.
just don't lie to the girls so that you get to fuck them for free. be honest. i'll write more in a bit.
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Mr Enforcer
02-20-09, 10:39
I want to travel from Hanoi to Nha Trang in May and want to know if there is any cheap airlines that do that route.Any replies very welcome.
Joe Nailer
02-21-09, 17:04
I want to travel from Hanoi to Nha Trang in May and want to know if there is any cheap airlines that do that route.Any replies very welcome.
Try
http://www.jetstar.com/ and
Vietnam airlines web site (google it)
Mr Enforcer
02-23-09, 06:21
Try
http://www.jetstar.com/ and
Vietnam airlines web site (google it)Thanks Joe,
I have already tried them and Jetstar is all sold out for May,Vietnam airlines very expensive for where I want to go!
Thanks anyway
Phantomtiger2
02-27-09, 01:02
Quick question on saying the price to anyone for sex.
With the conversions for US $1= over 17,000D
ex. Are you suppose to say the full 200,000D for the deed or simply 200, or will they interpret the 200 you said as US$200?
Quick question on saying the price to anyone for sex. With the conversions for US $1= over 17, 000D
Ex. Are you suppose to say the full 200, 000D for the deed or simply 200, or will they interpret the 200 you said as US$200? Phantom, I don't mean to be sarcastic but since 200, 000 Dong is $11. 40 US, and $200 is, well, $200, I think the context of the situation will take care of itself.
If you are at Gossip and you meet a young, long-legged, full-breasted stunner and you offer her or she asks for 200. I think you can figure it out and so can she.
On the other hand if you find a girl walking the street and she asks for 200 or holds up 2 fingers or you offer her 200, everybody knows it will be 200, 000 Dong.
If you are in a MP or BBS getting a BJ or HJ, the same goes, everybody knows that $12 rather than $200 is what's being referred to.
JD
Quick question on saying the price to anyone for sex.
With the conversions for US $1= over 17,000D
ex. Are you suppose to say the full 200,000D for the deed or simply 200, or will they interpret the 200 you said as US$200?
I always have Dong and refuse to discuss prices for anything except in Dong.
One of the reasons for this is that anything that is negotiated in US$ in Vietnam is going to be overpriced. Food, clothing - anything.
Hi guys,
Just letting you know I'm of on a trip by motorcycle from Saigon to Hanoi, thanks for detailed reports, if possible I would like to hook up other members, I've travelled to the traps of BKK and Cambodia and now Nam, with your help I'll hopefully not overly contribute to their economy, I'll be in Nam approx 2nd week March, pm me if you like.
Reguards,
Oldcoot
Phantomtiger2
03-01-09, 21:32
Phantom, I don't mean to be sarcastic but since 200, 000 Dong is $11. 40 US, and $200 is, well, $200, I think the context of the situation will take care of itself.
JD
No offense taken as from my experiences, one can never be too careful so had to ask this before my 1st visit here, as the money issue happen to me once in Cambodia years ago during my 1st visit there. Some of the pimps and gals will always try to work it to their advantage and make enough trouble as we don't speak their langauage,so they hope you just give up and give them a little more (although not the full amount they oringinally wanted).
Thanks .
PT
Phantomtiger2
03-01-09, 21:39
I always have Dong and refuse to discuss prices for anything except in Dong.
One of the reasons for this is that anything that is negotiated in US$ in Vietnam is going to be overpriced. Food, clothing - anything.
Thanks Sudsoz,
I'll keep enough Dongs in my pocket to satisfy all my needs for the day.
But man, 1,000,000 dongs in pocket makes me feel like the richest man in the world, why can't it all be $US dollars instead, oh well, one can still dream.
Cheers
PT
Do we have a slang dictionary for Vietnam? Sorry, I've looked, but haven't found one.
Also, is it common for Viet girls to be bisexual? Or is that an extra that has to be paid for? How do you ask/check to make sure a girl does anal?
Sorry for the questions, but I would appreciate any help you guys would care to share.
Do we have a slang dictionary for Vietnam? Sorry, I've looked, but haven't found one.
Also, is it common for Viet girls to be bisexual? Or is that an extra that has to be paid for? How do you ask/check to make sure a girl does anal?
Sorry for the questions, but I would appreciate any help you guys would care to share.Slang dictionary for Vietnam?
I've never seen one. Probably against the law to publish such a thing here. Pronunciation is difficult here so likely not much use anyway.
Yes, it's common for Viet girls to be bisexual.
You can often see pairs and groups of them walking hand-in-hand or even with arms around one another. Viet girls are naturally physically affectionate with other girls, very touchy with other girls. They even sleep 2, 3, 4 to a bed! Come here and see it! You don't have to pay them to be bisexual.
How to ask/check to make sure a girl does anal?
CHECK: Well, the best way is the finger test. Insert one or two fingers into their anus and see and feel how they react. It takes a while to become proficient (good) at this as Viet pussies and asses are natural tighter than what you might be used to. When you insert your finger(s), you need to pay attention to 3 things: 1) the look on her face 2) her general reaction (body language) 3) the tightness you feel on your finger(s)
After some practice, you will be able to make sure she does anal by checking with this method.
ASK: You can ask her if you can fuck her in the ass. It goes something like this. "anh lam dit cua em, duoc khong?" Means: Can I do you in the ass?
Or you could be more direct: "Anh muon lam dit cua em." Means: I want to do you in the ass.
Or try this: "Anh se lam dit cua em." Means: I am going to do you in the ass.
I am sure some native Vietnamese speakers will comment and correct me here. I don't claim to be an expert in Vietnamese language but these phrases have always been understood. "Dit" is the asshole. Alternatively you could call it "cua sau" or backdoor.
JD
Do we have a slang dictionary for Vietnam? Sorry, I've looked, but haven't found one.
Also, is it common for Viet girls to be bisexual? Or is that an extra that has to be paid for? How do you ask/check to make sure a girl does anal?
Sorry for the questions, but I would appreciate any help you guys would care to share.
Slang Dictionary? As JD says the language and pronunciation is hard enough and varies across the country so slang would just make it worse.
Getting on with a gal in VN is not like a place like Ipanema in Singapore where you bargain everything up front - even the specifics. It is much more of a magical mystery tour where if you strike the right chord good things will happen.
But you do have to bargain like hell in the bars because the mamasans are greedy.
As for anal if they get very wet I start spreading the juices around and just slip it in - some like it some don't. But you don't need a protracted negotiation.
Correction Dao
You see them hand in hand not because they are lesbo but because of culture. It's called friendship. Only westerners would think that it is otherwise. I observed this on the streets a lot and only western tourists would look at them strangely.
Correction Dao
You see them hand in hand not because they are lesbo but because of culture. It's called friendship. Only westerners would think that it is otherwise. I observed this on the streets a lot and only western tourists would look at them strangely.Get with the gag, Puss. Read the guy's question, the tone, the language. Then my replies.
Think about this the next time you want to tip 200k for a Hand Job
Enforcing labor laws
Meanwhile, the city’s Department of Labor, Invalids and Social Affairs (DOLISA) Tuesday worked with the Taipei Economic and Cultural Office in HCMC (TECO) on observing Vietnam’s labor laws.
Nguyen Thi Dan, head of DOLISA’s salary and remuneration branch, said 404 of 2,700 foreign invested companies in HCMC are from Taiwan, with more than 100,000 workers.
However, only half of the Taiwanese companies have mandatory labor regulations, 30 percent have labor unions and 26 percent have clear salary scales.
At the meeting with TECO and Taiwanese companies, Dan said all companies should publicize their salary scales soon and follow the basic salary regulations.
Minimum salaries in HCMC are VND1.08 million ($62) and VND1.2 million per month for outlying and central districts respectively.
Dan also reminded the companies to pay seven percent of the minimum salary for skilled workers and five percent for those working in harmful environments over and above their monthly remuneration.
Also Tuesday, the department discussed with the South Korean Consulate in HCMC about cases where several employers had fled without paying overdue salaries and other benefits to workers.
DOLISA reported that more than 3,000 workers in South Korean companies in 2008 had not been paid salaries.
Directors of the companies including Anjin, Vina Hean Woon Industry, Quangsung Vina, Dai Sang, Vietnam Apparel Technology Ltd., Sin B, Lucky Vietnam and Mido have absconded without paying their workers overdue salaries and other benefits.
However, Nguyen Van Xe, DOLISA deputy director, said the meeting yielded little results although the department and the Foreign Affairs Department had requested the South Korean General Consulate to ask those directors to return and resolve the issues.
Vietnam busts prostitution ring of fake students
05 Mar 2009
www.earthtimes.org
Hanoi - Vietnamese police have arrested a woman for procuring call girls who masqueraded as university students, a police official said Thursday. Police in Ho Chi Minh City arrested Le Thi Anh Tuyet, 29, on Wednesday after surprising four couples engaged in liaisons she arranged at a hotel.
Mai Van Tan, director of Ho Chi Minh City 's Department of Social Order Crime Investigation, said Tuyet, a former sex worker herself, had advertised that the 20 call girls in her employ were university students to attract customers.
"Customers are prepared to pay higher prices for students than for professional sex workers," said Tan.
The newspaper Ho Chi Minh City Law reported Tuyet had charged customers 100 dollars per encounter, and taken a 23 dollar cut for herself. Clients from northern Vietnam who requested Southern students, or vice versa, were charged up to 500 dollars.
"Customers prefer students to professional sex workers because students look cleaner and more innocent," said Le Bach Duong, director of Vietnam 's Institute for Social Development Studies. Duong said students were considered less likely to carry sexually transmitted diseases.
Police said Tuyet had also arranged work in Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong for call girls in her service.
Under Vietnamese law, if convicted, Tuyet would face between six months and five years in prison.
At a conference Wednesday in Hanoi , Vietnam 's Ministry of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs reported that the age of sex workers in Vietnam is falling, with 18 per cent reportedly under the age of 18.
Here is an example of Google Maps for Saigon. In this screenshot I have enabled the satellite view as well.
This is a part of District 7 that I have mentioned in previous posts. You can clearly see Tran Xuan Soan St at the top and Lam Van Ben Street (perpendicular) and Nguyen Thi Thap Street (parallel). These streets are rich in Haircut BJ shops and Cafe Om (BJ places set up as cafes).
Reducing to ISG 640 pixels has made the map somewhat unclear. Capture done with Snagit.
I appreciate you guys taking a quick minute to answer my questions, it's much appreciated. Hopefully I'll be able to put it to use some day (relatively soon).
There is a slang Vietnamese book available but not in Vietnam, I bought mine in Bangkok at Kinokuniya books for 312 Baht. A friend told me he's seen this series of books in Singapore as well.
Title: Making Out in Vietnamese
Author: Peter Constantine
Publisher: Tuttle
Printed: Singapore
website: tuttlepublishing.com
And it uses Southern Vietnamese mostly, which is very rare to find.
Dragonfly22
03-16-09, 13:05
Just ordered this book on Target website. Will check it out and give a report.
Dragonfly22
03-28-09, 13:39
Got the new book and reviewed it with my Viet Kieu friends, they say it has many contradictions and some irrelevant phrases, not worth the price.
Your friends are being too picky Dragonfly. Of course it has mistakes, I haven't seen a Viet language book that doesn't yet. Some of the phrases may be irrelevant but most are fine, certainly it's helped me to find phrases I couldn't find in any other book. Whenever I show it to a girl they always have a good laugh with me. So as far as Viet phrasebooks go, it's unique, inexpensive & useful.
I'll be in Viet Nam for a few months and will need to pay some bills while I'm gone. Has anyone had trouble accessing U.S. bank or credit company accounts via the web while in Viet Nam? In the past I've never stayed over a month so never needed to worry.
Any insight will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
need to pay some bills while I'm gone. Has anyone had trouble accessing U.S. bank or credit company accounts via the web while in Viet Nam?
Any insight will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!I've never had any problem. Use an up-to-date browser with full security, log in, sign on as normal, do your business, sign off. If on a public computer, clear the cache.
JD
I'll be in Viet Nam for a few months and will need to pay some bills while I'm gone. Has anyone had trouble accessing U.S. bank or credit company accounts via the web while in Viet Nam? In the past I've never stayed over a month so never needed to worry.
Any insight will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Internet are readily available everywhere, especially in coffee shops in District 1. However, I would suggest you bring your own laptop since most public computers are unsafe for banking transactions. Remember to declare your laptop at customs so you can bring it back home. All you have to do is write the brand of your laptop on the small white paper that you have to fill out at the customs gate.
I travel to Asia quite often, and I have a lot of credit card security problems. These are not with theft, but with the credit card companies themselves. They put a security hold on the card, so it will not work in an ATM. I call them and the first person says, oh i will remove the block. This never works. I call again and finally connect with the security department and they remove the block. Sometimes I have to call a third time. After 3 failure in the atm, some banks block your card forever. I cannot use one card at 7-11 in Thailand because of this.
Be sure you have 2 or 3 cards. Call the card company and tell them you are heading to Asia. If you get a rejection on the card for any reason, call the card company. Don't keep putting your card in the machine or it could be blocked forever.
I travel to Asia quite often, and I have a lot of credit card security problems. These are not with theft, but with the credit card companies themselves. They put a security hold on the card, so it will not work in an ATM. I call them and the first person says, oh I will remove the block. This never works. I call again and finally connect with the security department and they remove the block. Sometimes I have to call a third time. After 3 failure in the atm, some banks block your card forever. I cannot use one card at 7-11 in Thailand because of this.
Be sure you have 2 or 3 cards. Call the card company and tell them you are heading to Asia. If you get a rejection on the card for any reason, call the card company. Don't keep putting your card in the machine or it could be blocked forever. Yes, this post is absolutely correct, call your card company and tell them you will be using the card in Vietnam. Vietnam is a major fraud country and they will often block any transaction originating in Vietnam. Can be very annoying if you can't call them immediately when blocked so do it before.
Note: This advice is for using the card for purchases or in an ATM here, not for doing online banking transactions which have no problems.
JD
Joe Nailer
04-25-09, 17:05
I used to get paid into my VN bank account in VND. This meant when I want to travel, I had to change VND to USD beforehand. The banks such as Vietcom Bank, BIDV, or even ANZ Bank will not change VND to USD due to their banking regulations here. So I have to go to money exchangers in D1. Below is what happened.
I needed about 3000USD. This meant 48 million VND (let’s say 1USD=16000VND for simplicity). My VN (BIDV) bank gave me this amount in 200 x 200,000 VND note + 16 x 500,000VND note, and I took the money straight to this money exchanger called No 59 Exchange at 4C Le Loi. A girl started to count the notes. For 16 x 500,000VND notes, it is easy for me to keep track the counting as she counts. But for 200,000VND notes , it is very difficult for the average guy to keep track the counting. These people count money all day, everyday. Their brains (if any) are stuffed with money 24/7 like every other Vietnamese. They are very quick. So I lose the counting. The girl stands up, still counting and walks around behind me and back in front of me. I didn't think what this was about. She announces “one 200,000 short”. She counts again in front of me, it counts 199. She puts the money on the counting machine. It counts 199. I say “I gave you 200”. But of course this is no use. Not only can I prove the number of the 200,000VND notes but also cannot prove she stole it. I was shafted here. It is extremely unlikely that BIDV, one of the major VN bank, gave me only 199 notes, also little chance I lost just one 200K note in transit. More plausible expalnation is that this girl stole it when she went on a walkabout. Alas I cannot prove that. So I lost it.
So be careful; she can count well but she is also a big c*nt. With that 200K VND, I could have had a nice pussy instead of this c*nt!
You are more likely to change USD (or whatever hard currency you have) into VND which you can do so at reputable banks, which is unlikely that they would cheat on you (I think).
I used to get paid into my VN bank account in VND. This meant when I want to travel, I had to change VND to USD beforehand. The banks such as Vietcom Bank, BIDV, or even ANZ Bank will not change VND to USD due to their banking regulations here. So I have to go to money exchangers in D1. Below is what happened.
I needed about 3000USD. This meant 48 million VND (let’s say 1USD=16000VND for simplicity). My VN (BIDV) bank gave me this amount in 200 x 200,000 VND note + 16 x 500,000VND note, and I took the money straight to this money exchanger called No 59 Exchange at 4C Le Loi. A girl started to count the notes. For 16 x 500,000VND notes, it is easy for me to keep track the counting as she counts. But for 200,000VND notes , it is very difficult for the average guy to keep track the counting. These people count money all day, everyday. Their brains (if any) are stuffed with money 24/7 like every other Vietnamese. They are very quick. So I lose the counting. The girl stands up, still counting and walks around behind me and back in front of me. I didn't think what this was about. She announces “one 200,000 short”. She counts again in front of me, it counts 199. She puts the money on the counting machine. It counts 199. I say “I gave you 200”. But of course this is no use. Not only can I prove the number of the 200,000VND notes but also cannot prove she stole it. I was shafted here. It is extremely unlikely that BIDV, one of the major VN bank, gave me only 199 notes, also little chance I lost just one 200K note in transit. More plausible expalnation is that this girl stole it when she went on a walkabout. Alas I cannot prove that. So I lost it.
So be careful; she can count well but she is also a big c*nt. With that 200K VND, I could have had a nice pussy instead of this c*nt!
You are more likely to change USD (or whatever hard currency you have) into VND which you can do so at reputable banks, which is unlikely that they would cheat on you (I think).Before when I had to change different currencies to USD I would use my Credit Card at the money changers. This is the easiest way. I now have a bank account with one of the banks here so I rarely use money changers.
One time when I have had to change VND into USD to buy a motobike I sat down at the desk, put my bag of VND on the table along with the bank reciept of the withdrawl and supervised the girl handling the money and passing through the counting machine. She was also being watched by the guy/manager? who was dealing with me. All the money was there. The money changer I used to use is in between Don Koi (Rodeo Drive of Saigon) and opposite a roundabout where the Rex hotel is.
Yes, Please be careful when dealing with monetary transactions, Some even swap your real for counterfeit when your not looking.
I took the money straight to this money exchanger called No 59 Exchange at 4C Le Loi.
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It is extremely unlikely that BIDV, one of the major VN bank, gave me only 199 notes, also little chance I lost just one 200K note in transit.More plausible expalnation is that this girl stole it when she went on a walkabout. Alas I cannot prove that. So I lost it.
So be careful; she can count well but she is also a big c*nt.Hi Joe,
I've enjoyed your posts very much but just felt I had to speak out on this one.
I've used this place since 2000. Similar kinds of amounts too, buying USD (max $8000 in one go), Yen and GBP. Also sometimes going to VND. I have found them completely honest and have never made a mistake. Most of the staff seem to have been there for a very long time.
You suggest "it's extremely unlikely that BIDV, one of the major VN bank" short changed you. I don't share your confidence that they got it right.
I've known fake notes to come from BIDV, and I've been short changed by Vietcombank twice on the few times I used them. And they are another major VN bank of course (though both times the mistakes were corrected when I pointed them out and I wouldn't like to say they were fraud attempts).
If a mistake, I'm sure it was BIDV rather than 4C Le Loi. But since she counted the notes in front of you at 4C Le Loi, we're comparing the chances of mistake (or dishonesty) at BIDV with what could only be dishonesty at 4C Le Loi. I damn sure which I'd go for.
It's a real pity you didn't count the notes on departure from BIDV so we can't prove it one way or the other.
But for 200,000VND notes , it is very difficult for the average guy to keep track the counting. These people count money all day, everyday. Their brains (if any) are stuffed with money 24/7 like every other Vietnamese. They are very quick. So I lose the counting. The girl stands up, still counting and walks around behind me and back in front of me. I didn't think what this was about. She announces “one 200,000 short”. She counts again in front of me, it counts 199. She puts the money on the counting machine. It counts 199. I say “I gave you 200”. But of course this is no use. Not only can I prove the number of the 200,000VND notes but also cannot prove she stole it. I was shafted here. It is extremely unlikely that BIDV, one of the major VN bank, gave me only 199 notes, also little chance I lost just one 200K note in transit. More plausible explanation is that this girl stole it when she went on a walkabout. Alas I cannot prove that. So I lost it.Joe,
Sorry to hear you lost money this way. We know we can have a lot of fun for 200,000 Dong!
I think it goes without saying that everyone here is responsible for checking, double checking and even triple checking if necessary the cash we receive at banks and exchanges. Yes, there are crooks and there are also mistakes, but few mistakes with double or triple counting. The good thing about VN is that nobody is in a rush, so if you stay at the counter as long as you need to be sure, there will be no 'tsk, tsk' behind you or foot tapping to get you to hurry up. And the teller will stay there too. As for not being good at counting by 2's, just practice it at home sometime like this '2, 4 ,6, 8, 1, 2, 4, 6 ,8, 2, 2, 4, 6 ,8, 3, etc. Or just count the notes and then double the number (multiply by 2).
In my opinion, it is more likely that you were shorted at BIDV. Here's why. When you are being given cash, if you are shorted and discover it, the teller simply has to apologize and give you the correct amount. You may suspect she was trying to cheat, but a customer will usually not raise a ruckus as they now have the correct amount and an apology. Mistakes happen. On the other hand If you DON'T notice and walk away, she keeps it.
Now, on the other end. You are the one GIVING the cash to be exchanged. The receiver has no idea how sure you are of the correct total. You may have just counted it 17 times and your wife another 10 times! You may very well be EXTREMELY, POSITIVELY sure of the note total. The teller has no way to know. Now she tells you that you are short a note (or two). You KNOW she is lying and you are going to yell and scream and raise hell and refuse to take 'no' for an answer. It will draw the attention of customers and managers. How often can this happen with one teller? Not often. Sure, there may sometimes be a customer like you were, someone who really is not sure in their own mind what they have, and so can not make an issue, but this is not the norm as most people count their money (especially in VN).
This is why I think it is more likely that you were shorted at BIDV. That fact that it is a large state-owned bank is surely not an argument in its favor.
JD
I got put onto this site from a local gal I've been chatting with. She said its easier than google maps.
http://www.diadiem.com/
Theres a english button up the top. You can search business's, get directions so no more excuses for not visiting various places now hehe.
All,
I am planning my first visit to VN. I have been setting up some meetings with online chat contacts, so hopefully something pans out. Also have RTFF so am pretty sure I can hook up some p4p if the chat contacts don't work out. Will post all here (with pics if I can) after it happens. Ok so here is the question, I am an American Citizen, I live in Japan/Philippines. I will be flying into HCMC. I am strongly considering utilizing an online Arrival Visa Service. Is this legit? Any one have any experience on this? Is it truly as hassle free as they say? I can if needed go to the VN Embassy here in Tokyo, but would much rather just go the arrival Visa route as it seems so easy.
Any info is appreciated.
DH
Alwayshard45
06-15-09, 13:48
All,
I am planning my first visit to VN. I have been setting up some meetings with online chat contacts, so hopefully something pans out. Also have RTFF so am pretty sure I can hook up some p4p if the chat contacts don't work out. Will post all here (with pics if I can) after it happens. Ok so here is the question, I am an American Citizen, I live in Japan/Philippines. I will be flying into HCMC. I am strongly considering utilizing an online Arrival Visa Service. Is this legit? Any one have any experience on this? Is it truly as hassle free as they say? I can if needed go to the VN Embassy here in Tokyo, but would much rather just go the arrival Visa route as it seems so easy.
Any info is appreciated.
DHUnless its a verifiable emergency, not sure how to get verified, you will need an Approval Letter from VN Department of Immigration to be able to apply for VOA (Visa on Arrival). The approval letter will take 3-5 business days and when you arrive you need 2 recent photos, and six months validity on your passport. Seems like a bunch of hassle to me, I would just go to the Embassy and get the multiple entry visa.
Unless its a verifiable emergency, not sure how to get verified, you will need an Approval Letter from VN Department of Immigration to be able to apply for VOA (Visa on Arrival). The approval letter will take 3-5 business days and when you arrive you need 2 recent photos, and six months validity on your passport. Seems like a bunch of hassle to me, I would just go to the Embassy and get the multiple entry visa.Thanks. But for me, its actually less hassle, do it all on line get the letter, stop in the subway station on the way home get the pics, and off to the races. Thanks much for your info, at least now I know its legit.
DH
All,
I am planning my first visit to VN. I have been setting up some meetings with online chat contacts, so hopefully something pans out. Also have RTFF so am pretty sure I can hook up some p4p if the chat contacts don't work out. Will post all here (with pics if I can) after it happens. Ok so here is the question, I am an American Citizen, I live in Japan/Philippines. I will be flying into HCMC. I am strongly considering utilizing an online Arrival Visa Service. Is this legit? Any one have any experience on this? Is it truly as hassle free as they say? I can if needed go to the VN Embassy here in Tokyo, but would much rather just go the arrival Visa route as it seems so easy.
Any info is appreciated.
DHVisa on arrival works very well and can be simple, cheap and convenient. Pay a fee, they fax you a letter or email it, you bring to the immigration line, they stamp your visa, done. I suppose the only problem could be if they don't send the letter on to the immigration department at your designated arrival point. But many people do visa on arrival this way and I never heard of a problem. Go for it.
All,
I am planning my first visit to VN. I have been setting up some meetings with online chat contacts, so hopefully something pans out. Also have RTFF so am pretty sure I can hook up some p4p if the chat contacts don't work out. Will post all here (with pics if I can) after it happens. Ok so here is the question, I am an American Citizen, I live in Japan/Philippines. I will be flying into HCMC. I am strongly considering utilizing an online Arrival Visa Service. Is this legit? Any one have any experience on this? Is it truly as hassle free as they say? I can if needed go to the VN Embassy here in Tokyo, but would much rather just go the arrival Visa route as it seems so easy.
Any info is appreciated.
DH
We might just mention the alternative for frequent travellers. The USA is a participant in APEC and an APEC business travel card will give you visa free multiple entry access to all the participating APEC countries including Vietnam. About the only APEC country that does not fully participate in this is the USA where one needs to get an Electronic Entry Authority which is free.
You apply for the APEC card at the Immigration Department in your home country and it will cost about $100.
Hey Guys,
What are some good website to pick up girls in VN to send you naked pics or hook up with them for some freebies?
Phantomtiger2
09-04-09, 01:55
Is it true that the dong is worthless and can't be converted to your home or any other countries currency once you leave Vietnam?
Lustforthrust
09-04-09, 04:29
We might just mention the alternative for frequent travellers. The USA is a participant in APEC and an APEC business travel card will give you visa free multiple entry access to all the participating APEC countries including Vietnam. About the only APEC country that does not fully participate in this is the USA where one needs to get an Electronic Entry Authority which is free.
You apply for the APEC card at the Immigration Department in your home country and it will cost about $100.
With an APEC Business Travel Card, a US passport holder is entitled to visa on arrival in Vietnam.
However, a Singapore passport enjoys the same previlige without the ABTC.
Ordinarily, the ABTC holders are subject to all the usual immigration clearance process as applicable to other travellers.
Also the ABTC is not that easy to obtain. You have to show a business relationship of some standing in the APEC country you are travelling to. And it has to be renewed every 3 years.
If you are headed to the PRC (APEC member) with a US passport, you have to have a valid visa before you board the plane. ABTC & US passport alone will not get you onboard.
Indonesia, Thailand, The Philippines are 3rd world APEC countries; having a ABTC will not give them "visa free multiple entry access" to Japan or Australia. Only a visa obtained from the embassies will.
A Japanese, Singaporean, Bruneian needs no visa to travel to the USA. So having an ABTC will matter little.
All that the ABTC does is that it gives you access to the air-crew counter and if it happens that the officer there is unaware of the scheme (as they are likely to be in Houston, Miami & Atlanta) then you will have to go to the regular counter.
In JFK there is 1 counter for ABTC, none in LAX, none in SFO.
With an ABTC, passports that are eligible (USA, Hong Kong, Singapore) for the Australian ETA (electronic travel authority) will not be paying the fee of some AU$20.
Is it true that the dong is worthless and can't be converted to your home or any other countries currency once you leave Vietnam?
You are correct. Once you leave VN, no one will exchange your dongs for any other currency with the exception of Lao and Cambodia. So exchange it before you head to the airport. You can also exchange it at the airport but the exchange rate will not be in your favor.
FriendlyPlanet
09-04-09, 10:05
All,
I am an American Citizen, I live in Japan/Philippines. I will be flying into HCMC. I am strongly considering utilizing an online Arrival Visa Service. Is this legit? Any one have any experience on this? Is it truly as hassle free as they say? I can if needed go to the VN Embassy here in Tokyo, but would much rather just go the arrival Visa route as it seems so easy.
Any info is appreciated.
DH
OK, an old post- but since I got pulled into this thread from by others replying, thought I'd put in my 2c. I got a visa on arrival through myvietnamvisa.com. They were efficient, and I got the letter via email within 48 hours of my application.
Only hassle was the visa on arrival office in HCM City. Although there were only 5-6 people in line when I arrived, it still took almost an hour to get my visa! No hassles with a printout of the letter from the on-line agency- just paid my visa fee and hit immigration.
Friendly
Phantomtiger2
09-05-09, 01:41
You are correct. Once you leave VN, no one will exchange your dongs for any other currency with the exception of Lao and Cambodia. So exchange it before you head to the airport. You can also exchange it at the airport but the exchange rate will not be in your favor.
Well, since I still have to leave enough dongs for the airport tax thats not included in any air ticket, just how much dongs is the current departure tax from Hanoi?
Well, since I still have to leave enough dongs for the airport tax thats not included in any air ticket, just how much dongs is the current departure tax from Hanoi?The departure tax is now included in the air ticket. You no longer pay it separately at the airport.
Well, since I still have to leave enough dongs for the airport tax thats not included in any air ticket, just how much dongs is the current departure tax from Hanoi?
I think they abolished that tax. It should be included in your airline ticket. However, if they still have that tax, you can alway pay in USD.
I'm not sure how much the taxi fare is nowadays, (it was 150,000 a few years ago). I would have a Vietnamese person call to book the taxi ahead of time and also asks for the price.
If you guys think the topics are appropriate for the board, happy to discuss them there. PM is good to also.
Thanks.There is plenty of information available on this topic through various web sites including Vietnam travel.
It's hardly appropriate to discuss bringing a family to Vietnam on an International Sex Board is it?
Phantomtiger2
09-06-09, 06:03
thanks for the feedback . I was reading some guide books , I just looked inside the cover and it was published Oct.2008 and it had a passage saying departure tax was paid separately (not included in ticket). Well, goes to show you damn books info are already outdated by the time they reach my home town. Nice to know the most current info is from all you guys (punters)on the ground in real time.
Thanks
PT
Member #4214
09-06-09, 06:06
There is plenty of information available on this topic through various web sites including Vietnam travel.
It's hardly appropriate to discuss bringing a family to Vietnam on an International Sex Board is it?
Now that I think of it ... how is it not appropriate? (Spare us the moralizing.)
And yes, I've looked at the various websites, and haven't found them useful as yet.
Just a couple of pictures of a pretty lady at Highlands Coffee having a cafe sua da with a friend (not me).
Posting her picture here in NO WAY implies any connection with P4P or anything of the kind. She's simply a lovely woman having coffee in a public place and giving a smile.
Just a couple of pictures of a pretty lady at Highlands Coffee having a cafe sua da with a friend (not me).
Posting her picture here in NO WAY implies any connection with P4P or anything of the kind. She's simply a lovely woman having coffee in a public place and giving a smile.
Yes, lovely. Although she can be seen several nights a week at that notorious bar on Thi Sach street with her usual group of girls. ;)
Internet are readily available everywhere, especially in coffee shops in District 1. However, I would suggest you bring your own laptop since most public computers are unsafe for banking transactions. Remember to declare your laptop at customs so you can bring it back home. All you have to do is write the brand of your laptop on the small white paper that you have to fill out at the customs gate.I am going to Vietnam this weekend for six days and this post caught my eye. You have to claim your laptop upon entry, to ensure you can get it back out of the country?
Robb
I am going to Vietnam this weekend for six days and this post caught my eye. You have to claim your laptop upon entry, to ensure you can get it back out of the country?
Robb
No, utter rubbish. He must've gotten it mixed up with his last trip to North Korea.
No, utter rubbish. He must've gotten it mixed up with his last trip to North Korea.
Vietnam is also a communist country just like N Korea. So the mind set of custom officials are still the same. You can bring in your laptop without declaring it, however when you want to bring it out, the custom official will stop you at the gate and asks for money. (probably 100,000 or $10) Now if you want to deal with that BS then don't declare, but if you don't, then it doesn't hurt to declare it.
Vietnam is also a communist country just like N Korea. So the mind set of custom officials are still the same. You can bring in your laptop without declaring it, however when you want to bring it out, the custom official will stop you at the gate and asks for money. (probably 100,000 or $10) Now if you want to deal with that BS then don't declare, but if you don't, then it doesn't hurt to declare it.
I am a foreigner residing in Vietnam for the last 1.5 years. Most times when I travel out of the country (1-2 times per month) I have my laptop with me and have never been stopped by custom officials asking for money, for any reason.
I am a foreigner residing in Vietnam for the last 1.5 years. Most times when I travel out of the country (1-2 times per month) I have my laptop with me and have never been stopped by custom officials asking for money, for any reason.I too have been living here for the past 2yrs, I travel every month or couple months out and back into VN. NEVER have I been stopped or asked about my laptop or anything else for that matter. I always take my laptop with me along with other electronic items (camera, mp3 player, psp, 2 external HDD's) I don't know where you are getting your information from Whisper1 but it smells like BS. Where exactly do you declare your laptop and what paper do you write it on?
I am a foreigner residing in Vietnam for the last 1.5 years. Most times when I travel out of the country (1-2 times per month) I have my laptop with me and have never been stopped by custom officials asking for money, for any reason.
Same here, never a problem.
Vietnam is also a communist country just like N Korea. So the mind set of custom officials are still the same. You can bring in your laptop without declaring it, however when you want to bring it out, the custom official will stop you at the gate and asks for money. (probably 100,000 or $10) Now if you want to deal with that BS then don't declare, but if you don't, then it doesn't hurt to declare it.Sorry, but I believe Customs officials are interested in what you bring INTO the country, not what you take out. Security officials are interested in what you bring on an aircraft. In Vietnam they also scan bags on arrival as they are looking for weapons.
Vietnam is also a communist country just like N Korea. So the mind set of custom officials are still the same. You can bring in your laptop without declaring it, however when you want to bring it out, the custom official will stop you at the gate and asks for money. (probably 100,000 or $10) Now if you want to deal with that BS then don't declare, but if you don't, then it doesn't hurt to declare it.
Sorry - I have been in and out of Vietnam around 10 times in the last year always with a laptop and never experienced this.
Same here, never a problem.
Happened to me a time or two in Buenos Aires. Went for a day trip to Montevideo from the town airport and coming back n the evening the customs offices started to question the origin of the laptop (unmistakenly used and unmistakenly belonging to me/my company).. The guy was fishing for a bride, but he did not get any
Just gotta stay firm in refusing to give one.
I too have been living here for the past 2yrs, I travel every month or couple months out and back into VN. NEVER have I been stopped or asked about my laptop or anything else for that matter. I always take my laptop with me along with other electronic items (camera, mp3 player, psp, 2 external HDD's) I don't know where you are getting your information from Whisper1 but it smells like BS. Where exactly do you declare your laptop and what paper do you write it on?
The reason why I wrote what I wrote is because it happened to me twice. Maybe because I'm Vietnamese and the customs officials think it's easier to make some money off me than a foreigner. No matter what, I'm just sharing my personal past experiences on this board, take it as you will.
The reason why I wrote what I wrote is because it happened to me twice. Maybe because I'm Vietnamese and the customs officials think it's easier to make some money off me than a foreigner. No matter what, I'm just sharing my personal past experiences on this board, take it as you will.
chào anh. At least it's nice to know everybody's trying to make some money off everybody else and not just the foreigners. ;)
Lakeoffire1
09-17-09, 13:33
I am going to Vietnam this weekend for six days and this post caught my eye. You have to claim your laptop upon entry, to ensure you can get it back out of the country?
RobbDon't worry, if you are foreigner normally there is no problem (as Whisper apparently got some but he is vietnamese so it might be the reason). I've been in and out a couple of times and i never got any problem (anyway i have an azerty keyboard that can't be find in Vietnam so it can't be considered as export.
i have came back to vn over 10 times lately. each time i spent there was approx 4-6 weeks. i feel sorry for you foreigners. i just want to give some tips. believe me and take it or leave it, it's up to you.
1. never pay money until you are done with sex. many girls will ask for money up front but show them that you do have the money but tell them that you pay after the sex.
2. always ask for the girl's id. many girls are ****d and you don't want that.
3. many freelancers and street girls are much better than high end club girls such as new world (catwalk) or fortuna (boss). those called themselves high class hookers suck. they asked for too much money and can't perform shit. their pussy are fucked up. foreigners are usually go for them but native guys don't. those girls charge a lot cuz they think foreigners are sex maniac and they are "huge" that can mess up their pevic bones. most girls don't want to go with foreigners even though they get paid much higher.
4. prices are varied. however, i will list the standard price below. trust me, always bargain. they usually asked for 2x the price.
st. 1-3 hrs, 1 shot to as many shots. need to deal with them before accept the price. again never pay money until done.
street girl. 18 yr. 25 yrs. 100k vnd to 150k vnd st all night 250k. 300k
stay away from foreigner place such as de tham or backpacking district. they blow up the price 4x but they go with standard price with the local and late at nite with they got no deal.
free lance 18 yr. 25 yrs old st 200k. 300k all night. 500k
free lance (good quality or working at club) st 300k. 500k all night. 500k. 1. 2 mil average 700k to 1mil
high end club girls all night. 100 usd. 200 usd, i wouldn't pay more than 150usd.
massage place: massage bbbj. ticket (about 70k vnd + 50k. 100k tip). i usually tip 200k for 2x full service. (tip 100k. 150k per fuck). i usually tip 300k for bbbj, fuck, bbbj, fuck.
free fuck and gfe: go to club, order cognac, talk nice to the girls, tips her well, like 200k. 300k. she will go out with you and usually she won't ask for money.
just don't lie to the girls so that you get to fuck them for free. be honest. i'll write more in a bit.
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.toplord,
just wondering if you have more info on the mps you posted:
massage place: massage bbbj. ticket (about 70k vnd + 50k. 100k tip). i usually tip 200k for 2x full service. (tip 100k. 150k per fuck). i usually tip 300k for bbbj, fuck, bbbj, fuck.
can you help us mongers find a place to fuck that is in a massage place?
Vietnam is also a communist country just like N Korea. So the mind set of custom officials are still the same. You can bring in your laptop without declaring it, however when you want to bring it out, the custom official will stop you at the gate and asks for money. (probably 100,000 or $10) Now if you want to deal with that BS then don't declare, but if you don't, then it doesn't hurt to declare it.
You should declare it if you don't want any problems and not the other way around. What they tried to do was to prevent people from making extra money by selling foreign made laptops in VN, but this was many moons ago and they don't care anymore because there is no profit to be made in this global market. I know many Viet Kieu living and working here who don't have any problems in the last few years traveling in and out of the country with their laptops.
Radicalkey
09-23-09, 05:27
I have been told that the govt. no longer renews visas for 6 months, and they are now requiring renewal every month.
Is this true?
Anyone have information?
I have been told that the govt. no longer renews visas for 6 months, and they are now requiring renewal every month.
Is this true?
Anyone have information?Yes this is completely true. I had to renew my VISA last month and was able to get a 6month visa for the past year, but this time around they gave me grief about it. Saying that I could only get a visa that would allow me to stay in the country for days. The reason I heard is that they are afraid of the H1 virus coming in from the outside as there has been an increase in cases of suspected H1 victims.
In order to stay you need to be working in HCMC or living with a spouse who is working in HCMC. Or have a company sponsor you, as some teacher's here are able to do.
Who knows when this will be lifted but the only other alternative I can think of is if you know someone within the system/government that can help make this happen for you. All others considered tourist will not be able to renew for a long stay visa.
I haven't heard anything yet. If they were to rid of the six-month visa then they for sure would keep the 3 month type, otherwise they would get an earful from the international community.
I have been told that the govt. no longer renews visas for 6 months, and they are now requiring renewal every month.
Is this true?
Anyone have information?
Requiring visa renewal every month would just be very silly on their part. The last I heard (a week or 2 ago) is that they would require renewal every 3 months. So be it, let your company take care of it.
We had the strange report some while ago about the chick betraying her big love and just fucking around whenever he's back from US and then continues after, is it her.
http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5427856057
Lakeoffire1
09-23-09, 16:24
I have been told that the govt. no longer renews visas for 6 months, and they are now requiring renewal every month.
Is this true?
Anyone have information?I read that effectively the 6 months visa won't be renewed. But they still keep the 3 months. Damn pain in the ass to do all the papers every 3 months. Hanoi wants to close the country again. Maybe!
I am here on my first visit to HCMC. First, let me say thank you to Johndao for his help through pm'ing.
I have been around the world three times and I have never found such a hard place to date (monger).
Upon arrival with my ex-wife's sister (I was married to Vietnamese for 11 years, divorced 11 years ago), we were met by a guy (don't know who he was) with our names on a sign and he took our passports and within 5 minutes we were escorted through the diplomatic line and into the country, no questions asked.
I live in the Philippines and my first impression of Vietnam was what a clean city. I haven't been scammed (or even asked) for anything. Taxi's here are a dream, try to catch a taxi in Manila.
After living in the Philippines for two years, I guess that I am jaded when it comes to women. 90% of the women in the Philippines will give GFE and I have come to enjoy and expect that.
My first two days I was with my ex-wife's family and I was just trying to learn some about the country. On my third night my ex-in-laws husbands took me out. We went to a club called Bocosso. It is a bar with Techno music and every guy gets a girl to stand with them and the music was so loud, you couldn't talk. I had a very sexy 22 year old that could speak English (when I could hear) and we used our cell phones to type out questions. I stayed a hour and half, and then I begged to go. They understood that I was meeting an American friend when I was trying to say that I knew of some places that Americans go.
My first mistake trying to go to a bar listed here, taxi drivers do not know the name of places, only address. I got a cab at my hotel and told the driver Bar 51 and I showed him the name I wrote down. He had no idea and after 2 minutes we decided that he could not find it, so i got out and went to bed. If you want to go to any place here use the map provided in this forum http://www.diadiem.com/ My third night when I left the disco I used the map address and the driver dropped me off on Dong Du. I was still lost and walked around and saw Q bar.
When I went in I was immediately approached by three ladies and within 3 minuted offered FS for $70. Thanks to everyone here, I knew that was way to high. I asked them about any other bars in the area and of course they said that there was none. I stayed about 30 minutes and talked to them and then I choose the girl who seemed the shyest and agreed on $50 for LT in my hotel with photos. I showed her my hotel business card and she told me that my hotel had no problems. I told her upfront that if there was any issues at the hotel, I was walking, no questions asked. Taxi back to hotel and desk clerk took her ID, signed her in and let us go to the room. She is 27 years old, no kids, nice tits and pussy, but way way too mechanical, but it was my birthday, so I was happy to score my first girl in Vietnam. In the morning when I walked her out, the clerk stopped me and told me that if my gf comes back tonight that I need to get her a separate room. He was smiling ear to ear. I told him no problem and thanks for helping me out. He told my ex-sister-in-law, hey your friend came in late last night, but he didn't tell her about the girl.
I will post pictures and hotel info when I depart Vietnam. I have had too many problems in the past of guys going to girls that I have posted on and asking for what I got.
I got a day off from the family yesterday and I went and found Bar 51, but I still have no idea where Bar 29 and Smileys are. If you can provide any assistance, it would be greatly appreciated.
Walking around yesterday I was approached by touts for massage, but I didn't take any up on their offers. Walking back to the hotel I saw a salon that I have seen from the taxi and walked in and there were 10 beautiful ladies all yelling massage. I got a manicure, pedicure and massage for 120,000 dong. The massage was great, but no extras were offered. She was more interested in getting to America and kept asking if I was married, where I was staying and how long I was here. She let me take two pictures and I will post when I am out of the country.
I will go out tonight and hope that I can report more tomorrow.
Thanks for all the info that you all have posted here.
My first mistake trying to go to a bar listed here, taxi drivers do not know the name of places, only address. I got a cab at my hotel and told the driver Bar 51 and I showed him the name I wrote down. He had no idea and after 2 minutes we decided that he could not find it, so i got out and went to bed. If you want to go to any place here use the map provided in this forum http://www.diadiem.com/ My third night when I left the disco I used the map address and the driver dropped me off on Dong Du. I was still lost and walked around and saw Q bar.First thing get a paper map that you can carry - get the taxi to go to the Sheraton and get one off the Sheraton concierge if nowhere else has one. While at the Sheraton take a drink at the rooftop and see if you fancy the expensive stuff up there.
Locations of bars.
Bar 29 - Dong Khoi (right from Sheraton and then left past Gardenstadt)
NY Saigon, Hot Chilli (no take out) and another - on Dong Du left from Sheraton on same street.
Various bars on Hai Bai Trung between Mac Thi Boui and Hyatt.
Apocolypse and Coco - on Thi Sach - Left from Sheraton and across Hai Bai Trung. Right to Apocolypse and left to Coco (near to Ly Tu Trong).
Smiley (and some others) - Thai Van Lung - parallel to Thi Sach
Just remember to negotiate and smile - and then negotiate some more.
First thing get a paper map that you can carryI get my maps from the little tourist office in front of the Reunification Palace on Nam Ki khoi Nghia. Opposite the Park. These are double sided and great until you try to fold it back up. Fits in the "glovebox" on my bikes.
Look for Scoozi Pizza on Thai Van Lung. Its a kiosk in front of Capital Place. Approx 3-5 doors towards Le Thanh Ton you will see the big smiley face sign. If you need a excuse go for a pizza, Hand made, wood fired pizza oven, Nice pizza but the toppings are a bit thin.
First thing get a paper map that you can carry - get the taxi to go to the Sheraton and get one off the Sheraton concierge if nowhere else has one. While at the Sheraton take a drink at the rooftop and see if you fancy the expensive stuff up there.
Locations of bars.
Bar 29 - Dong Khoi (right from Sheraton and then left past Gardenstadt)
NY Saigon, Hot Chilli (no take out) and another - on Dong Du left from Sheraton on same street.
Various bars on Hai Bai Trung between Mac Thi Boui and Hyatt.
Apocolypse and Coco - on Thi Sach - Left from Sheraton and across Hai Bai Trung. Right to Apocolypse and left to Coco (near to Ly Tu Trong).
Smiley (and some others) - Thai Van Lung - parallel to Thi Sach
Just remember to negotiate and smile - and then negotiate some more.
Thanks for the great info. I will try tonight for sure.
Robb
I am here on my first visit to HCMC. First, let me say thank you to Johndao for his help through pm'ing.
I have been around the world three times and I have never found such a hard place to date (monger).
Upon arrival with my ex-wife's sister (I was married to Vietnamese for 11 years, divorced 11 years ago), we were met by a guy (don't know who he was) with our names on a sign and he took our passports and within 5 minutes we were escorted through the diplomatic line and into the country, no questions asked.
I live in the Philippines and my first impression of Vietnam was what a clean city. I haven't been scammed (or even asked) for anything. Taxi's here are a dream, try to catch a taxi in Manila.
After living in the Philippines for two years, I guess that I am jaded when it comes to women. 90% of the women in the Philippines will give GFE and I have come to enjoy and expect that.
My first two days I was with my ex-wife's family and I was just trying to learn some about the country. On my third night my ex-in-laws husbands took me out. We went to a club called Bocosso. It is a bar with Techno music and every guy gets a girl to stand with them and the music was so loud, you couldn't talk. I had a very sexy 22 year old that could speak English (when I could hear) and we used our cell phones to type out questions. I stayed a hour and half, and then I begged to go. They understood that I was meeting an American friend when I was trying to say that I knew of some places that Americans go.
My first mistake trying to go to a bar listed here, taxi drivers do not know the name of places, only address. I got a cab at my hotel and told the driver Bar 51 and I showed him the name I wrote down. He had no idea and after 2 minutes we decided that he could not find it, so i got out and went to bed. If you want to go to any place here use the map provided in this forum http://www.diadiem.com/ My third night when I left the disco I used the map address and the driver dropped me off on Dong Du. I was still lost and walked around and saw Q bar.
When I went in I was immediately approached by three ladies and within 3 minuted offered FS for $70. Thanks to everyone here, I knew that was way to high. I asked them about any other bars in the area and of course they said that there was none. I stayed about 30 minutes and talked to them and then I choose the girl who seemed the shyest and agreed on $50 for LT in my hotel with photos. I showed her my hotel business card and she told me that my hotel had no problems. I told her upfront that if there was any issues at the hotel, I was walking, no questions asked. Taxi back to hotel and desk clerk took her ID, signed her in and let us go to the room. She is 27 years old, no kids, nice tits and pussy, but way way too mechanical, but it was my birthday, so I was happy to score my first girl in Vietnam. In the morning when I walked her out, the clerk stopped me and told me that if my gf comes back tonight that I need to get her a separate room. He was smiling ear to ear. I told him no problem and thanks for helping me out. He told my ex-sister-in-law, hey your friend came in late last night, but he didn't tell her about the girl.
I will post pictures and hotel info when I depart Vietnam. I have had too many problems in the past of guys going to girls that I have posted on and asking for what I got.
I got a day off from the family yesterday and I went and found Bar 51, but I still have no idea where Bar 29 and Smileys are. If you can provide any assistance, it would be greatly appreciated.
Walking around yesterday I was approached by touts for massage, but I didn't take any up on their offers. Walking back to the hotel I saw a salon that I have seen from the taxi and walked in and there were 10 beautiful ladies all yelling massage. I got a manicure, pedicure and massage for 120,000 dong. The massage was great, but no extras were offered. She was more interested in getting to America and kept asking if I was married, where I was staying and how long I was here. She let me take two pictures and I will post when I am out of the country.
I will go out tonight and hope that I can report more tomorrow.
Thanks for all the info that you all have posted here.To clarify, you hooked up with someone at the Q bar? I've been there and didn't know it was a place to find anyone. That's interesting.
We had the strange report some while ago about the chick betraying her big love and just fucking around whenever he's back from US and then continues after, is it her.
http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5427856057Yes I remember this report as well. The tagged profile is the same picture that was posted by the guy who comes her from CA to bang her. But the verbage on the profile totally looks like a guy put it up. I can't imagine the girl would put something up like this.
Yes I remember this report as well. The tagged profile is the same picture that was posted by the guy who comes her from CA to bang her. But the verbage on the profile totally looks like a guy put it up. I can't imagine the girl would put something up like this.
The original post with the photos has been deleted so it is hard to check but there are quotes with comments by other members. Based on the original text posted I am inclined to agree with Dawg.
Perhaps somebody should take on the role of a white knight and go to the Hyatt and tell her so she can get it taken down. You never know what gratitude might bring.
To clarify, you hooked up with someone at the Q bar? I've been there and didn't know it was a place to find anyone. That's interesting.
Yes, I did pick up a girl in Q bar.
Thanks for all the info Sudsoz. I went out last night and I had no problems finding the bars with ladies, but I still couldn't find Bar 29:(
I apologise if this report is boring, but I like to tell as much as possible for newbies to help them avoid problems that I encounter.
I started in New Saigon Bar. I was the only customer and was approached by a ugly girl who wanted to wash my face with a cold towel. I told her that I was okay and she kept asking for a drink. I saw about 15 ladies when I entered and I am sure that I didn't want to drink with her. So I went to the couch and asked for a lineup and then I picked the girl (Wan 35 looked 25) who smiled and brought her a drink, 50,000 Dong. I had a vasectomy 17 years ago and the doctor messed it up and I had to have two surgeries to correct the problem and my balls are tender and she kept grabbing my package. i asked her three times to please don't do that, but she thought it was a joke. She finished her drink and begged for another and I was so mad I told her no way. She kept on begging so i called the mommasan over and brought drinks for the 8 girls sitting watching us. That really pissed her off, but her friends were laughing at her. After my beer I decided to move on and the mommsan ran over and tried to give me a free beer. I declined knowing that she was trying to get me to stay to buy another round of drinks:D
I went around the corner and saw Bar 49 and went in. One little sexy girl (Vy 22) took me through the bar to the back room with a pool table. She wanted to play pool for a wager. $10 dollars if she won and she would get naked if I won. I bought her a LD for 50,000 Dong and we played one game. During the game she was really aggressive and kept toughing me and let me touch her everywhere. She won and I gave her the $10. We sat down and she started talking about going upstairs for a BJ. She started at 700,000 Dong and I got her down to 300,000 Dong. One of the worst BJ that I have ever had. She got naked and had a tight body and I tried to get FS, but she kept saying we needed to go to ST hotel. Due to the lousy BJ, I told her no way I would take her. When we finished I asked for my bill and she told me that it was minimum 4 LD's to go upstairs and I told her too bad so sad, you never told me that and the she asked for a tip and I laughed and told her that it was lousy, why would I tip. So I went downstairs and threw 100,000 Dong on the bar for my beer and her LD and just walked out.
Walked next door to Bar 51 and had a seat at the bar and ordered a beer. Within 2 minutes I was approached by a 22 year old (no name yet, as I am seeing her tonight again). She has been working a very short time and she seemed to be very honest. We had two rounds of drinks and then I asked her about going out. She quoted $25 for the bar, $50 for her. I know that this is high, but it was getting late and I wanted to fuck after the lousy bj in Bar 49. So I took her and we went to a ST hotel. The room was $25 and it was really clean and a very nice room. This girl loved to kiss and didn't want to stop. She really was horny and kept playing with her pussy. She let me take pictures and I will post when I leave the country. After 2 hours we left and went back to the bar to let her out.
On my way back to my hotel i decided to try and find Bar 29 one more time and I stopped the taxi at the Sheraton and started looking around. I was approached my a man with a card for Mai Lan club. he told me that it was around the corner and had lots of pretty girls. I went just to get more info for this report. We walked two blocks and no club. I finally told him never mind and I was leaving. At this time two girls show up on a scooter and he tells me that they are from the bar. That the bar is around the corner and to get on the scooter with them. I did and went went one block and a guy on the corner yelled at the girls something in Vietnamese that I didn't understand until she pulled over. I didn't have a helmet on. So the girl in the middle gets off and gives me her helmet. We take off and before I could snap the helmet on, the police were on the side of the road and blew a horn. She kept going one block and they caught us. By now I am thinking that I am fucked:( I got off and they told her to drive about a half block away from me. I stood there wondering what to do and the the girl who got off the scooter came up and told me to walk off. I wasn't going to walk off until the police told me too. I looked at the police and they were writing her a ticket (I think) and waved bye and he waved bye to me. I walked a halk a block up with the other girl and two Vietnamese guys asked me what was wrong and I told them what happen and then they offered to take me to a club. I gave the girl 100,000 Dong for her friend's ticket and told them that I was out and flagged a taxi. As soon as the taxi stops, the girl who got the ticket shows up and hands me the helmet again. I just laughed:D and say good night. I don't know if there was a bar or where they were taking me.
Robbaf
Nice gesture of you for trying to compensate for the girl's loss. I've seen you in the PIs post for years. Every time a guy in AC asks me to recommend places to play in VN, I always steer him to Cambodia, where you can have as many Vietnamese girls as you want without traversing through the labyrinth. You must miss Fields by now. Good luck
Lakeoffire1
09-25-09, 19:34
Robbaf
Nice gesture of you for trying to compensate for the girl's loss. I've seen you in the PIs post for years. Every time a guy in AC asks me to recommend places to play in VN, I always steer him to Cambodia, where you can have as many Vietnamese girls as you want without traversing through the labyrinth. You must miss Fields by now. Good luckAhaha Field Avenue, the famous! Miss the Philippines!
Anybody have ever try motorbike girls on Hoang Van Thu street and in Nguyen Binh Kiem? I had bad experience before with this kind of girls so now I'm suspicious. In Nguyen Binh Kiem they were asking 500000 for one pop hotel included. I you got good experience there please share (in MP if you want).
Thank you a lot
Robbaf
Nice gesture of you for trying to compensate for the girl's loss. I've seen you in the PIs post for years. Every time a guy in AC asks me to recommend places to play in VN, I always steer him to Cambodia, where you can have as many Vietnamese girls as you want without traversing through the labyrinth. You must miss Fields by now. Good luck
Hahahaha I really didn't want any drama. You are correct, I live/work in the Philippines and I do miss it. I am flying out at 10 am today and I have already got two DIA girls waiting for me.
I had a great last night and I will report when I get back in the Philippines.
Thanks all for helping me during my visit and if any of you are ever in the Philippines feel free to PM me for any assistance.
Robb
I'm looking for a micro Hifi system capable to read Mp3 files from a SD card.
Which is the best place in HCMC to buy consumer electronics?
Thanks
Bar 29 is at 29 Dong Khoi street on the same block as the Majestic Hotel, the last block before the river.
Bar 29 is at 29 Dong Khoi street on the same block as the Majestic Hotel, the last block before the river.Thanks for the address, I tried three nights in a row to find it. I walked and walked and I never came close.
Robb
I'm looking for a micro Hifi system capable to read Mp3 files from a SD card.
Which is the best place in HCMC to buy consumer electronics?
Thanks
Shop around and make Nguyen Kim Electronics on Tran Hung Dao corner Yersin your last stop. They're big and prices are fairly reasonable, with freebies often thrown in to sweeten the deal. Might help if you bring someone who can speak Vietnamese, or request for one of their few English-speaking sales staff to help you out.
Bar 29 is at 29 Dong Khoi street on the same block as the Majestic Hotel, the last block before the river.
It is on the river side of Jaspers Restaurant and you walk straight in the front door. There is a place the other side of Jaspers where you walk up an alley full of motorbikes and it is truly a dive.
Yes I remember this report as well. The tagged profile is the same picture that was posted by the guy who comes her from CA to bang her. But the verbage on the profile totally looks like a guy put it up. I can't imagine the girl would put something up like this.Yes agreed, I leave in saigon and see her often in Hyatt lobby bar, cannot imagine hers aying that.
One question though; how somebody else could create such comment and why?
Member #4285
10-21-09, 09:46
Hello longtimers =)
Just arrived to Hanoi, and my plans is to buy a motorbike here and go down with it to HCMC, sell it there and then fly to Singapore and so on..
Ive been reading here that the only way to stay away trouble is to buy a 50cc, but will that small bike take me all the way down to HCMC? I have an International Driving License with me that works for cars in Vietnam, but no bikes, and I dont have any license for bikes at home either.
Any feedback how you would have done? I really want to go on a bike down the costline, and dont take the train or bus. I have 13 days on me to find a bike and go down from Hanoi to HCMC.
How would you do if you were me? Thanks for any feedback!
Hello longtimers =)
Just arrived to Hanoi, and my plans is to buy a motorbike here and go down with it to HCMC, sell it there and then fly to Singapore and so on..
Ive been reading here that the only way to stay away trouble is to buy a 50cc, but will that small bike take me all the way down to HCMC? I have an International Driving License with me that works for cars in Vietnam, but no bikes, and I dont have any license for bikes at home either.
Any feedback how you would have done? I really want to go on a bike down the costline, and dont take the train or bus. I have 13 days on me to find a bike and go down from Hanoi to HCMC.
How would you do if you were me? Thanks for any feedback!
What country is your original drivers lic from. As far as I know VN dosn't recognise any foreign drivers lic appart from a select few countries. There is a big misconception that a international drivers lic will be valid in VN. Sadly its far from the truth.
Take a look at the BBC's Top Gear series. They shot 1 episode here riding from Saigon upto Hanoi and Halong Bay. The bikes ranged from a Minsk, honda cub and a old 1960-70's style vespa.
Hello longtimers =)
Just arrived to Hanoi, and my plans is to buy a motorbike here and go down with it to HCMC, sell it there and then fly to Singapore and so on..
Ive been reading here that the only way to stay away trouble is to buy a 50cc, but will that small bike take me all the way down to HCMC? I have an International Driving License with me that works for cars in Vietnam, but no bikes, and I dont have any license for bikes at home either.
Any feedback how you would have done? I really want to go on a bike down the costline, and dont take the train or bus. I have 13 days on me to find a bike and go down from Hanoi to HCMC.
How would you do if you were me? Thanks for any feedback!
The distance between Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh is about 1700km. If you take the coastline route, it's a lot farther. If you take a bus nonstop from north to south, it will take you 2.5 days. Imagine how long it would take you on a bike. First of all, to drive that long a distance on a bike is quite dangerous, especially in Vietnam. Truck and Bus drivers fall asleep behind the wheel and cause accidents is a common thing. The national average of fatality due to accidents is 3person/day.
If you want to do a tour of Vietnam, hire a car to take you. It's a lot safer.
National average is 33 per day.
Ozirob
National average is 33 per day.
OzirobYes, Vietnam has just about the highest road death and injury rate in the worls per mile/KM driven. It's a national nightmare on the roads. You'll see recklessness that you won't believe and see it again and again.
About the advice below to hire a car and driver rather than drive your own bike. I agree there are some advantages to that, but on the bike, you are in control of at least your end of the situation. When you have a driver, you are in control of nothing.
JD
The distance between Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh is about 1700km. If you take the coastline route, it's a lot farther. If you take a bus nonstop from north to south, it will take you 2.5 days. Imagine how long it would take you on a bike. First of all, to drive that long a distance on a bike is quite dangerous, especially in Vietnam. Truck and Bus drivers fall asleep behind the wheel and cause accidents is a common thing. The national average of fatality due to accidents is 3person/day.
If you want to do a tour of Vietnam, hire a car to take you. It's a lot safer.
Driving on the main roads in Vietnam, you need to obey the following rules:
1. Always have a vietnamese driving license, Bao Viet insurance and registration papers for your bike. Unlike the cities, the highway police will stop foreigners and may hold your bike if you do not have these.
2. Never drive at night on highways or main roads. This will be obvious to those who have tried!
3. I would suggest getting the best most comfortable bike you can get that can be fixed in Vietnam and bring some spares with you. You should not consider a fast road bike but instead a comfortable off-road or hybrid. Preferably an aircooled that is easy to fix.
4. If you see an accident that you are not involved in, keep going. Otherwise you will be charged with causing it and will have to pay and maybe spend time in prison. This is a very hard thing to do but you must not stop in such circumstances.
Unless you are some sort of freak who likes to spend 8 to 10 hours on a bike per day, this journey will take you over a week and perhaps 2 or 3 weeks if you stop off in places that catch your eye. Remember that apart from the deadly way in which Vietnamese drive, you will alternatively have masses of dust, potholes, rain (depending on the year), animals on the road - I have even seen people sleeping on the road.
the 1700 to 2,000 km between Hanoi and HCMC takes much longer than in Western countries. You might average less than 300km per day.
Here is an idea that you might find interesting. Trains run between Hanoi and HCMC and they stop off at each main station on the way. And you can sleep on the train if you get the sleeper. It may be the case that the bike will be put on a train that is different from the one you are travelling on but all you have to do is wait one day if this occurs. There are additional charges for putting the bike on the train - they crate it up and sometimes drain the petrol. But this way you can do the more spectacular journeys by bike (between Hue and Danang, for instance) and enjoy the leisure of the train during the rest of the time.
Google the Minsk Club in Hanoi - they have a lot of info that you might find useful (except their adherence to Minsk bikes - very easy to fix but you have to fix these two stroke monsters daily!)
Member #4285
11-01-09, 15:38
Yes, Vietnam has just about the highest road death and injury rate in the worls per mile/KM driven. It's a national nightmare on the roads. You'll see recklessness that you won't believe and see it again and again.
About the advice below to hire a car and driver rather than drive your own bike. I agree there are some advantages to that, but on the bike, you are in control of at least your end of the situation. When you have a driver, you are in control of nothing.
JD
Thanks everybody for the feedback!
I took the train from Hanoi down to Saigon were Im now. Much better because I took the sleeping one and relaxed insteed for have near to death moments on the road. I rent motorbikes in the towns were I stayed and yes, the traffic on the big roads are sick! They are more in the wrong line than in the right. Here, they think (I think) that if I just honk noathing will happend. I saw at least 10 times were I thought now I will see a deathcrash but they (thanks) get out of it with 10-20 centimeters every time. Crazy is a understatment.
Now im in Saigon, and I think I arrived to late, I only have 2 days including today and some few hours on day 3. I will see if I can change my flight.
Em the plom (or how to spell it) everywere! =)
we were in ho chi minh last week checking out the scene.
sat night
got in on a late flight around 11:30pm. very modern new airport and no hassles getting through customs.
my wingmen arrived a couple of days earlier and warned me of the seriously rigged taxi system and getting swarmed by taxi drivers the moment they exited customs. when it was all said and done, they paid 200 dong to get into town. so i avoided that by changing money and getting a taxi from one of the counters just after going through customs, but before going out the gate into the throng of people that looks like the fall of saigon.
i changed $100 and negotiated the rate up by about 5% versus their first offer, so don't take the first quote. i paid 120 dong (about $8) for a taxi, and the rep walked me out to the curb and put me right in a new mini-van taxi. no hassles.
on to the open road it immediately became clear that the locals like fighting in this country, as two taxis had pulled over to settle a dispute- one of the guys had a chrome-plated baton ready in case things didn't go his way.
my iphone worked perfectly from the time i switched it on and i texted my guys, who came back to the hotel to pick me up. we headed over to a spa place that we had trouble finding, which was in a dirty old hotel across from a big park near the new world hotel. the fee was 150 dong to the house and after showering and having a steam bath, we were each lead to a private room that has frosted glass about 2/3 of the way up. my girl was a solid 8 with her clothes on (and they stayed on) and was very cheerful, and gave a so-so massage. she allowed my hands up her shorts, as long as my fingers didn't penetrate. ask if i wanted hj, i said "sure", no money was discussed, but i knew the price range from reading this board. i tipped her 200 dong and she asked for 100 more, but i intentionally brought exact change with me, so she was ok with that. one of my wingmen also tipped 200, and the other wingman tipped 500 because he said he got to finger bang the girl (huh? i said), and we sternly lectured him on staying within the right pricing parameters.
sun
my wingman had other plans this afternoon, so i decided to find the local bbbs area. i asked an old man who had offered "girls" if he could take me to this area, and he did. it was about 15 minute moto ride from the opera house. the street name is nguyen phi khanh – phuong tan djnh.
entered one of the establishments, and of course, the price was inflated because guy went in ahead of me and had arranged a cut for himself, which i was ok with me, because i just turned down the offer of 500 dong and walked out, since i now knew where the place was and could come back next time and try another nearby shop for the real price.
later we went to another spa/hj place and paid the usual 140 to the house and 200 to the girl, once again, they were all 8s and 9s, must be a sought-after job, good pay and only have to get their hands dirty!
mon
we go to what we think might be a bbbs in dist. 1, near the big marketplace. loaded with hot chicks dressed sexy. my friend and i each pick a girl, and we pay the extra charge for private room and massage. well, she lays me on a massage bed and gives a weak, very weak massage, and for the most part, will only massage my hand and smile, and say, "you are handsome, " but her english skills are otherwise poor. when my hands do a few test probes, she shoos them away and says that i'm "naughty". after 45 minutes of this bullshit, i text my wingman and tell him to meet me outside if he's not getting any action. i get up to leave, and she says, "teep me! " i don't get paid if you no teep. " so i said "downstairs". "no, teep me now" she says. "downstairs" i repeat, and then head for the stairs. as i head for the cashier, the idle girls all surround me, i suppose to shame me into giving a big tip, but i pay the 250 ripoff house fee and give 50 to the girl, which was more than she deserved, and someone makes a wisecrack in vietnamese, to which they all break out in laughter (i suppose it was, "you asshole', or whatever they say to guys like me! my wingman comes down a few minutes later and says he had the exact same experience i had.
as night falls, we are walking down one of the streets that leads past the sheraton, and my wingman spots a cute young viet girl alone at a café, and stops to have a word with her. she's waiting for another girl, she says, and we ask if we can join them. my buddy is getting along well with her and she gets a call from the friend to meet for dinner nearby. we arrive at the restaurant which was cheap and good, and the friend is also hot and about 25 y. o., face/body 8/10. turns out that they're both hairdressers, and supposedly my girl has her own shop. we eat with them and then i suggest that we split up. i get on the back of my girl's motorcycle and we head off to karaoke. we get there and its just closing. so we head off to an upscale bar and have a couple of drinks, but not much going on yet as its still only 10pm. we head off to a place that she can go dancing, and come to a dirty but large country western-looking bar. i'm out of money because i hadn't anticipated going out earlier when i left the hotel. no problem, she paid the foreigner cover charge of 300 dong and the drinks. not crowded yet but within an hour its packed. lots of foreign guys there too. as she gets drunker, she's rubbing her crotch on my leg and deep kissing on the dance floor. by midnight, my girl is pretty drunk, so then we head back to my hotel. "sorry, you can't bring her in, its too late", says the night desk clerk. i offer a tip, and he still says "no" i ask if there are more rooms available and then i can get the girl her own room. the hotel is full, he says. then he says, "you can bring her up for an hour, but no longer than that. " i took her up to the room, she has lovely muscular thighs poking out of her skirt and a little thong that i quickly peel off, get a nice bbbj, daty, and she really gets into cowgirl action then i finish her off from behind. as we are napping, we get a phone call 1 hour, 40 minutes after coming up from the front and i take her down, making sure to tip the two guards and the front desk man.
tues
i make the mistake of meeting the same girl from the night before at 1:00pm, and paying her back for the prior nights admission charge, mistake no. 2, and letting her set the agenda, mistake no. 3. we go have a bowl of pho (soup with noodle and beef) for lunch. then we ride the motorbike to the movies and she orders a big pepsi and box of popcorn, and devours that while waiting for the show to start. "i don't like korean movies", she says as the movie starts, even though she picked it. we walk out and she exchanges tickets for another movie that starts an hour and a half later. so much time, nothing to do, so we head down the elevator to the department store to look around, and she heads for the lingerie dept, asks how i like some of the skimpy panties and bras, (who wouldn't?) then heads to the cash register with an armload and points to the total, 905, 000 dong. " i only have this much money, as i open my wallet and show about 500, 000 dong (about $30), which she grabs all, and pays the difference. we head up to the cinema again. i had some spare cash hidden in my phone case and she sees that as i take out my iphone. she has me pay for another box of popcorn and 32 ounce pepsi. then she orders cheesecake and points at me when the server comes over with the bill. movie sucks, but we are the only people in the theater and i finger bang her and get plenty of deep kissing action, which was cool. now that i'm warmed up, i say, "lets head back to my hotel".
back onto the bike. her driving is as bad as everyone else and reminds me of bumper cars without the bumping (most of the time), in the way people make strange maneuvers, go the wrong way to avoid doubling back, and sometimes it ends up that you are stuck in a swarm of bikes with a car or two, with everyone pointed in different directions, and people calmly unravel the mess and go on their way. but i'm impressed with the high level of patience as it appears about half the drivers have never been behind the wheel before today.
"do you like kfc? she asks. so we stop there on the way back. she orders 8 pieces of chicken and yet another 32 ounce pepsi. i've never seen such a small girl eat so much, so fast. its almost like a pie eating contest except with chicken. i eat 3 pieces, she eats 5. she says we're near her beauty shop and wants to stop by for a few minutes. my image was an upscale shop on a main street, but instead, we go down a narrow alleyway through a row of dirty old shops, and hers is one of them. one of her employees gives me a shampoo and blow dry, while my girl is getting her nails painted by another employee. i'm wondering who bought her the 50 inch samsung flat screen tv that still has some of the plastic wrap wrapped around the base.
back on the bike, its now about 7:30pm as we arrive at the hotel. "we have extra rooms tonight, " says the same clerk from last night. "she won't be staying overnight, " i reply. "be sure to have her out by 11pm, " he says. we ride up the elevator and my girl says, "i go home now—you don't want me stay overnight". "i have work tomorrow, need to sleep" i reply. still pissed off, she enters my room and lies face down on the bed and sulks. then she gets up and goes into the bathroom. she emerges from the bathroom butt-ass naked and starts trying on the new bras and panties. "cool", i think to myself. she says, "you busy tomorrow, i go shopping". afterwards we get into bed and have a round of action that isn't quite as good as the night before, but not bad. now how to get her to leave, and i think back to all the food she consumed today. "lets go get some ice cream", i suggest. so we get dressed and once again she says she will go shopping tomorrow. "i love shopping, i need money". "give me money" she says. with a lot of conviction. how much? " i ask. "two million dong($85)" she replies. "uh oh. hmm, i'm in a country where its illegal to have sex with locals, even if she was my girlfriend, " i think to myself. do i want to have any problems? " "here's 1million, its all i have today", as i hand her the money. "enjoy shopping, i will call you on thursday" she looks down and the money and just pockets it.
"there's no free lunch" applies double to pussy. that free piece of ass cost me a whopping total of 2, 600, 000 dong, (including all the dating costs and shopping money)
wed
by now we've figured out how to cross the streets. last time i was here about 8 years ago, there were no traffic signals, and almost no cars. what you do now is wait for any cars to go by, then deliberately walk across the street and the bikes will go around you like a swarm of bees (they don't want to hit you and possibly fall off their bike). and unlike thailand, there are proper sidewalks everywhere, so its pretty easy to walk this city.
i'm having an excellent cup of vietnamese coffee and an aussie woman comes into the coffee shop asking how to report a purse-snatching. she tells me that they were crossing the main road and a moto guy snatched the purse of her traveling companion, which contained a phone, camera, and $500. best to carry as little as possible and keep it all in one pocket with your hand in the pocket as you walk around.
went to a local dive for dinner and tried such dishes as turtle, frog, kangaroo, and wild boar. food was really cheap, and tasty, as well as beer at 15 dong/bottle, and the beer companies had their own girls working there, very hot and wearing company logos and colors, and pushing beer on the horny guys. spent 200 dong each, including tip and we were stuffed.
i get back to my room and see there's 2 missed phone calls tonight from the big-spending hairdresser.
thurs
i had one meeting for work which was in one of the 5star hotels, so i enjoyed all the facilities and a leisurely day of using the spa and gym as well as the pool after my work was finished. a well-fed redheaded 40-something american woman who seemed strangely out-of-place at this upscale pool area shows up in a bright green polo shirt and flowered shorts with another friend and proceeds to enter the pool fully clothed, then slowly dog-paddles back and forth across the pool while chatting loudly with the friend. no wonder our image is so bad around the world with uncouth behavior like that. just as i was about to complain, this postergirl for sex prison usa was ordered out of the pool by one of the poolboys and instructed to change into proper swimgear if she wanted to use the pool, and she then beached herself and her dripping wet street clothes on one of the sunbeds.
stopped in at a massage place before dinner, it was 140 to the house. girls were 9/10 looks and attitude, not much of a massage, but nice experience and ended up tipping 200 for the hj, which she tried hard to get more out of me, but i stuck to my price. my friend took the vip room for 400 to the house, which it turns out, is not much better than a regular 140 dong room, but he was expecting fs, which didn't happen and in fact, the girl wouldn't even take anything off, despite his generous tip offers, but he did get what he thought was gfe, dfk, and groping through her clothes. so at least in such establishments, there must be a hard rule against anything other than hj.
on returning to the hotel, the front desk girl informed me "a lady called you many times today". i had left my phone in the room and found that there were 6 attempts to my phone as well by my money-grubbing beautician
fri
i'm lounging in my room and about to drop off to sleep, and my wingman calls after he finishes his date with a hot regular girl that he met during the week, and he asks if i want to go out for some action, and tells me about being approached by a moto-pimp as he was walking through the park. thinking back to how ted kennedy woke up his nephew willie smith many years ago to go out pussy hunting, and how that turned out, i said, "i'll pass, but you'd better stick to a massage place, a late-night sw sounds like a risky situation", i advise.
not even 30 minutes later, i get a call from my friend and he says, "shit, i went with another pimp and girl and i was robbed. " to make a long story short, they agreed on 200 dong for fs, and then took him on the bike way out of the way to an unfamiliar and deserted area of town to a short-time hotel. the ho got him into the bathroom to wash him down and left the room door unlatched so that the pimp could come in and steal my friend's phone and money. he sensed something wrong and ran out of the bathroom just as the pimp was going out and then she pretended to be coming in to bring a condom, but he noticed his pants had been folded differently and when he went to check his valuables, the girls ran out of the room. by the time he got downstairs they were long gone and he was minus an iphone and most of his cash, but luckily they left his credit cards. why he had the cards and phone with him at all was beyond me. best to carry a cheap phone and only enough money for the night out.
btw, the next night we walked in that area together hoping to find the pimp and offer to buy back the phone, and we noticed a lot of ladyboy moto pimp-ho teams trolling the area for horny customers. we also met some young guys pimping some very cute young women, first offer from their side was 600 dong for fs, but the women didn't look like they were really into it, so we didn't bother negotiating. if you're adventurous, any park area is a potential hunting ground as these places get quite crowded with all sorts of people at night
sat.
i was awoken from a deep sleep at exactly 7am by my ringing phone, and was too bleary-eyed to check the number before answering. "why you don't call me? " said the familiar voice, "i meeese you! do you meese me? " uh oh, its the beautician. "i'm very busy with work, but i'll call you tomorrow", i lied. "meet me for just one hour, ok? " she pleaded. "not today, i have work, i will call you tomorrow. "
we go to the big market and check out the stuff for sale. i see a cute asian tourist girl and she is trying to screw down a shopkeeper on price. "five dolla, five dolla, she says. the shopkeeper insists on 6, and they strike a deal. i ask if she's from korea, but she says she is from kumming china. i get her email address and phone because i'm coming to china in a few months, i say, and she says she will guide me.
we headed over to nguyen phi khanh – phuong tan djnh area and checked out the bbs's that the old man had shown me last weekend.
there were at least 10 or 12 young women in blue dresses lounging about on the barber chairs and couches watching tv, surprisingly they were most in the range of 7 to 8 in looks, but a 10 in boredom. i took the next girl in the rotation, a short, nice-titted early 20s girl. she takes me upstairs to a shabby room with massage tables separated by curtains. as it was early afternoon, there was only one other guy up there getting serviced. the girl does notspeak english, and starts with a perfunctory massage with my clothes on. after 5 minutes or so, she unzips my jeans and wipes me down from nipple to nuts with disposable wet towels. she then drops her top to reveal shapely, well proportioned tits, and proceeds with a bbbj. i can touch wherever i want, but a decoy pad is strategically located between the legs, so i decided not to explore. every couple of minutes, she practically gags while spitting out the saliva she built up. the girl was not-into-it, and so it was not exciting and not worth wasting cum on her. i told her "finished" and after i showered, i went downstairs and told the young mamasan to give me a card for next time. she asked how the service was, and i said, "no good. " she asked what happened, and i just said, "next time i will try you". my friend said his experience was better, but found the bj to be somewhat mechanical.
sun
walking through the center of dist. 1, i passed an alleyway, and a homely girl sitting on a stool called me over and encouraged me to check out the massage down the alley. i went to have a look, and a 30-ish gal with a cute dress and nice tits was at the counter with a winning smile. "i will do it if you do the massage, " i said. upstairs we go. i shower, and then she does an oil massage on me. i sweet talk her as i run my hand up her legs and into her panties. she doesn't stop me. i finger her and then she asks if i want hj. i unsnap the bra and start sucking on her beautiful rack. i ask if i can do daty, then she drops the panties and kneels above my face and lowers the pussy within reach of my waiting tongue. afterwards, she gives me a fine bbbj, and then she finishes me off with a hj while i dfk and hold her bare ass cheeks. after a shower, i tip her and she gives me another dfk as she grinds her crotch into my leg. unexpectedly good and what a way to end the trip.
as i stood in line at immigration at the airport, i get a last call from the beautician. "why you don't me meet me today? " "i meese you". "when you come back vietnam? "
although hcm is not as easy hunting grounds as bangkok, we were impressed with the better manners and intelligence, and work ethic of the vietnamese in general, as well as the better walkability of the city and traffic conditions. vietnamese drivers are generally very patient and forgiving of other drivers and do their best to avoid running down a pedestrian, whereas in bangkok, drivers don't think of potential consequences of their actions and won't give another driver nor a pedestrian an inch. there are so many decent english speakers with good pronunciation, and when they talk amongst each other, they keep there voices down, unlike the thais who scream at each other. on the other hand, the vietnamese men are not too forgiving of foreigners tapping their local women. i was walking with a vietnamese woman, not touching, but just walking and the woman was often verbally harassed by one of the working class guys on the street. other guys told me of similar experiences.
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MrFantastik
11-23-09, 09:07
Hello friends,
this is my first time in this country, but i visited Asia in the last 10 years... so i have some questions Vietnam-related...
1st - How the weather will be in december (1-24) in Hanoi and in the central -south Area ? I'll need a heavy jacket ? Raincoat ?
2nd -No problem for money... Where are the (REALLY) best girl ?
3rd - In a 3 or 4 stars hotel (that is not girl friendly) is it possible with an high tip accomodate my girl ?
4th - Can i find an escort service in this country? (or something similar?...)
5th - Elicopter trip - Someone knows where i can arrange it?
Thanks
Tom Driskill
11-25-09, 11:31
A recent trip to Vietnam left me with five days in the city of Hue.
Day One
I was checked into a ** hotel for $35 a night. Around the hotel there were signs for places that offer Spa and massage. They are advertised on billboards. I found one and checked in. The one hour rate was 200K dong. I was give a key for a locker and offered a shower, which I took. Then lead into a hall way with about 6 rooms. The room was small with a table with head rest. The girl named thiem came in and began a rather good massage. Not knowing how things are payed I brought the money with me in a towel. Thiem left every 15 minutes to go somewhere and in the last 5 minutes was talking to someone out side the door. Basically no possible play. Strike out
Day Two
I found a similar Spa massage place next door to my hotel. I went to the front desk after dinner and handed over 100K. I was lead into a shower and spa room where I took a shower. I was given a towel and pair of shorts to wear. I then went upstairs into a small rectangle room. Ms Kan came into the room as I was trying to put on the shorts and grabbed them from my hands and threw them in the corner. So basically a towel around my waist. As she started the massage she moved the towel away as well. She then began signing Viet folk songs which I sang along to. She then asked if I would sing a english song which I did. After the song she had me flip and to a long hard look at mr johnson as if to eye a challenge. She asked did I want a HJ or a BBBJ. While doing the deed she dropped her panties and let me work her breasts. By the time she got me off she was soaked. I tipped her and she ask me if I would go out with her and Kereoke. Unforgent for me I had a early morning committment.
Day Three
Head back to were I had been the day before. Wanted to sample something new so tried Linh. I had a bad feeling when I met her and she was playing around on her phone. Gave a lame massage and then wanted 400k for a HJ I dropped it down to 300K. If she was done I just wanted to get out of there. Down the hall I could hear Ms Kan singing. Should have gone back to her.
Peace Out
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Joe Nailer
11-25-09, 16:36
Hello friends,
this is my first time in this country, but i visited Asia in the last 10 years... so i have some questions Vietnam-related...
1st - How the weather will be in december (1-24) in Hanoi and in the central -south Area ? I'll need a heavy jacket ? Raincoat ?
2nd -No problem for money... Where are the (REALLY) best girl ?
3rd - In a 3 or 4 stars hotel (that is not girl friendly) is it possible with an high tip accomodate my girl ?
4th - Can i find an escort service in this country? (or something similar?...)
5th - Elicopter trip - Someone knows where i can arrange it?
Thanks
If you have money, you would come to the right place. They luuve money more than anything, yes that includes police.
Just come, you will find everything you need, except, sorry to say, there are no Elicopters.
5th - Elicopter trip - Someone knows where i can arrange it?
Thanks
http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/showarticle.php?num=02TRA201109
Not a "Elicopter" as you requested but a Helicopter. :P
http://www.luxurytravelvietnam.com/
"Luxury travel offers the Ha Long Bay tour for a group of between nine and 12 and costs over US$9,300, while the weekend package tour service is priced at $616 per passenger."
A recent trip to Vietnam left me with five days in the city of Hue.
.....
Down the hall I could hear Ms Kan singing. Should have gone back to her.
Peace Out
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..and did you hear anybody singing in english too? :)
It will be my first time in Vietnam. In order to avoid too many questions I’ve been doing my homework by reading the Vietnam forums for over a year now but I still need some help.
I’ll be landing in Hanoi, from Bangkok, on April 1st and be leaving the country from Saigon on the 14th. My plan is to spend 4-5 days in Hanoi then take a flight to a beach resort city spend another 4 days there and then fly to Saigon for another 4-5 days before I go to, a real pussy paradise, Jakarta.
Mongering is always in mind but I understand it is not that easy there. I will still take my chances though. My primary target is to have a brief first hand knowledge of the country and add a new pin on my world map. If I like it I can come back for more in the future.
Thanks to Airasia air fares are so low in that part of the world.
So far my choice for the beach resort city is Nha Trang. Before I go ahead with the domestic bookings I have a couple of questions for the Nam seniors.
My first question is “is it a good choice or there is another better one especially near Saigon?” Remember I am an airplane man. I hate long travel on trains or buses. Two to three hours is my limit on this mode of travel.
Furthermore ATM vs Euros vs Usd what is the best choice?. Are there ATM’s easily accessible in every city and what is the best and easily accepted currency?
What is the maximum daily limit for the ATM’s? Are there in Hanoi airport?
Any other suggestion/comment, even with PM, will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
It will be my first time in Vietnam. In order to avoid too many questions I’ve been doing my homework by reading the Vietnam forums for over a year now but I still need some help.
Hanoi is not good unless you strike upon some private arrangements - which is actually not that hard to do if you have a few days. Hai Phong is an hour or so away and is a resort style area with plenty happening.
Give Hue and Hoi An a big wide miss but Da Nang is OK.
Nha trang is a beachy resort area but also services offshore rig personnel so it can be good. Vung Tau is similar with lots of pubs and private opportunities.
ATM's are everywhere these days but only deliver VND which is hard to change back.
It will be my first time in Vietnam. In order to avoid too many questions I’ve been doing my homework by reading the Vietnam forums for over a year now but I still need some help.
Don't worry about ATM's, they're everywhere. As far a a limit, the most I've taken out in one day is $1200 U.S.. Some have a limit of 2m or 3m at time but you can do another transaction right after. Most charge around 20k per transaction.
If you end up finding a traveling buddy, I'd head to Phu Quoc Island. It's very quite and not much happening (mainly for lovers and such) but the beaches (google Sao Beach, Phu Quoc) are very nice, no crowds, with great seafood. It's an hour fight from HCM and cost around $80 round trip (hotels cheap too). If you're wanting a break and like to see something different this is a good place to go. Also, all the hotels I stayed at (6 or so) were gf.
If you end up finding a traveling buddy, I'd head to Phu Quoc Island. It's very quite and not much happening (mainly for lovers and such) but the beaches (google Sao Beach, Phu Quoc) are very nice, no crowds, with great seafood. It's an hour fight from HCM and cost around $80 round trip (hotels cheap too). If you're wanting a break and like to see something different this is a good place to go. Also, all the hotels I stayed at (6 or so) were gf.
Hey, any recommendations for hotels in Phu Quoc? I was there once and stayed in Mango Bay, which was really nice but their prices have more than doubled since then, so maybe I'll try another place next time. Tried Thang Loi in the same area, which was a nightmare (dirty, primitive facilities)
Hey, any recommendations for hotels in Phu Quoc? I was there once and stayed in Mango Bay, which was really nice but their prices have more than doubled since then, so maybe I'll try another place next time. Tried Thang Loi in the same area, which was a nightmare (dirty, primitive facilities)
I just came back from staying at Sea Star and Dong Duong. Both nice and around $45 for an ocean front bunglow, other rooms arond $35 per night. Brought my Viet gf with no problems.
You can always wait until you get there then go hotel shopping. It always scrares me a little to do this, thinking I might not have a place to stay, but never had a problem in Viet Nam.
Thank you very much gentlemen and Happy Holidays.
Hi all
I've had a look at the various country forums but couldn't find anything specific about my question.
I'm planning a purely mongering trip to asia in Feb and can't decide between Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Phils, Thailand or Vietnam.
I've done Thailand many times and it's great. Did Phils about 20 years ago and it was pretty good too.
What I'm looking for is your opinion of the very best mongering destination. Not interested in food or scenery just the best looking, best value pussy (I realise it's subjective but I reckon we all have an idea of where the hottest chicks are once we've been there). Judging by the imported Koreans coming to Perth I reckon Korea may just have the hottest chicks, but I hadn't planned on going there (too expensive).
Thanks heaps if you manage a reply. Pm's welcome
Cheers
I think you need to consider what it is that you want.
Do you want bars like Nana or Soi Cowboy in BKK where the sex is the industry? For this I would suggest Manila and Angeles or Phuket.
Or do you want to find one or two natural SYT types that can be lured. This can be found in Saigon and Vung Tau as well as in Manilla and Cebu and, of course in Jakarta and other parts of Indonesia.
Member #2234
12-24-09, 18:10
A little off topic but I am sure no-one will object
MERRY XMAS guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your reply Sudsoz. I'm looking for somewhere with a good number of attractive working girls. I'm too old to consider trying to pull anything other than some old fishwife. And who needs that. Even if I could pull, it'd take too much time and I only have 3 weeks to pack in as much pussy as possible. I'm leaning towards Manila and AC. Read good reports on the forum, and though I'm comfortable in Thailand (I speak reasonable Thai), it kinda spooks me as my wife of 26 years (who left me 3 months ago) is Thai and it could drag up a lot of memories I don't need. I'll get back on the Thai horse another day.
Your right in leaning towards Manila and AC. From what you said I think it's a good fit. My third choice would be Cambodia. The action in Vietnam and Laos is much too slow for what you're wanting.
Thanks for your reply Sudsoz. I'm looking for somewhere with a good number of attractive working girls. I'm too old to consider trying to pull anything other than some old fishwife. And who needs that. Even if I could pull, it'd take too much time and I only have 3 weeks to pack in as much pussy as possible. I'm leaning towards Manila and AC. Read good reports on the forum, and though I'm comfortable in Thailand (I speak reasonable Thai), it kinda spooks me as my wife of 26 years (who left me 3 months ago) is Thai and it could drag up a lot of memories I don't need. I'll get back on the Thai horse another day.
Well I am over 60 with a beer gut and what the Singapore pinays describe sokindly as Kenny Rogers grey looks. I have no trouble finding SYT in Saigon and Vung Tau who want to improve their english and their life.
Hi all
I've had a look at the various country forums but couldn't find anything specific about my question.
If Thailand is not your first choice then head to Angeles City ( Clark ) which is a miniature of Pattaya.
When you are done there take a cab and go to Manila. Plenty of choices there too.
If you have more time and money to spend then take a flight to Jakarta.
http://www.cebupacificair.com/
has very reasonable fares.
IMHO they are the best mongering destinations in the area after Thailand.
Good luck.
If Thailand is not your first choice then head to Angeles City ( Clark ) which is a miniature of Pattaya.
When you are done there take a cab and go to Manila. Plenty of choices there too.
If you have more time and money to spend then take a flight to Jakarta.
http://www.cebupacificair.com/
has very reasonable fares.
IMHO they are the best mongering destinations in the area after Thailand.
Good luck.
Sexy Geezer,
I'm from an ASEAN country, lived in N. America for 12-15 years before returning to Asia a few years ago. Since my return I've been discovering mongering in all the capital cities of SEA and am now expatriate in Vietnam.
I second El Greco's recommendation exactly. You have 3 weeks and based on what you describe, I would suggest starting in Jakarta and finishing in Manila, with sidetrips from both, to Surabaya/Bali and Angeles respectively. Split it approx. 7-10 days in Indonesia and 11-14 in the Philippines.
Going with what you said to 'pack in as much pussy as possible':
In Jakarta, stay in Kota,
In Bali, stay in Kuta/Sanur,
In Surabaya, stay near Dolly,
In Manila, stay in Malate/Ermita,
In AC, stay anywhere.
Have fun!
Money
You will get 6% more money in Vietnam using US dollar notes from any gold or jewelery shop, rather than banks, which offer below market rates.
As a rule, the number of independent money exchange hole in the wall places that you see all over Singapore and SE Asia have dried up in Vietnam, and been replaced by ATM hole in the wall setups.
If you use an ATM, you are guaranteed of getting a poor rate, as well has being hit-up for multiple transaction fees.
The currency situation is volatile, but at the time of writing the 'official' exchange rate was 18450, while the street rate was 19600.
The banks will not generally sell or convert back Dong to US dollars, indicating an impaired or prop situation. Be smart with your money. And exchange it for Dong at the 'right' places.
More sex. Vietnam is not the only country in intervention mode.
I'm going to Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand in about a month, never been to SEA before. I've been reading, but some things still aren't clear such as how best to deal with money. It sounds like US cash is the best way to go in Vietnam but I don't like carrying too much with me. Can I get USD from ATM's in Vietnam or can I cash TC's for USD?
I'm landing in HCMC. I'll probably stay there for a few days and then take the overnight train to Nha Trang. After 5-7 days there I'm going to head to Cambodia. I don't want to lock myself into an itinerary in case I really like it or hate it somewhere.
It sounds like US cash is the best way to go in Vietnam but I don't like carrying too much with me. Can I get USD from ATM's in Vietnam or can I cash TC's for USD?
You cannot get USD from ATM's here.
In tourist areas many prices are listed in USD. And those businesses will be happy to accept USD. They prefer USD, but they also accept VND.
I recommend that you bring some USD, but also bring an ATM card and withdrawal funds in VND. You shouldn't have any problems getting money from your home bank account (in VND).
I couldn't even buy USD at my bank here. They won't do it. Other currencies are available, but it seems that the VN don't want their currency to compete with the USD. I think gold shops are the only place to buy USD - and you will pay more than the official exchange rate.
Member #2234
01-04-10, 04:54
You can get usd from bank/atm here if u have a usd account no problem whatsoever
Doing my homework preparing my first visit to Vietnam I found this info
ATMs can be a choice as it’s very popular in most of tourist destinations now. Vietcombank (VCB) has the best network in the country. Withdrawals are issued *in Dong (50,000d and 100,000d only). There is a *limit of 2,000,000d (about US$125) for each withdrawal and a daily limit of 20,000,000d. Fee is 50,000d (US$3) each time.
Pasted from http://www.activetravelvietnam.com/traveltips/currency.html
Considering my bank's charge of 4.40 euros per transaction I think it is very expensive for getting only the equivalent of 125 usd
My 2 Dongs
You can get usd from bank/atm here if u have a usd account no problem whatsoever
Do you mind telling us what bank's atm lets you usd$?
I have 2 bank accounts here, both usd$ however I can only get usd$ if I go into the bank and make a withdrawl. Every ATM I've used and I mean even competitors banks, always give me VND.
You cannot get USD from ATM's here.
In tourist areas many prices are listed in USD. And those businesses will be happy to accept USD. They prefer USD, but they also accept VND.
I recommend that you bring some USD, but also bring an ATM card and withdrawal funds in VND. You shouldn't have any problems getting money from your home bank account (in VND).
Yes, keep paying in a foreign currency even though they (govt) are trying to stop the double pricing. (that was sarcasm btw)
Forget the usd$ payment, stick with the local currency, your a tourist not a resident. The business owners would prefer usd$ because they can exchange it to vnd for a much higher rate than you will ever get. Regardless you will be getting stung everywhere you go in Tourist areas
When I go shopping I never ask for price in usd$. Dosn't matter where you go. If your coming in from Europe keep your euro's, much better than usd$.
Member #2234
01-04-10, 17:55
I'm not 100% sure on this but I think the HSBC atm can, I know for 100% sure you can if you walk into the HSBC bank anyway. Also inside the HSBC bank in the city centre there are several atms and I think they are DIFFERENT (some pay in $s ??)
I might be totally wrong on the atm thing but only trying to help.
I don't have a USD account with hsbx only GBP account but I can withdraw GBP no problem when I walk in.
I'm not 100% sure on this but I think the HSBC atm can, I know for 100% sure you can if you walk into the HSBC bank anyway. Also inside the HSBC bank in the city centre there are several atms and I think they are DIFFERENT (some pay in $s ??)
I might be totally wrong on the atm thing but only trying to help.
I don't have a USD account with hsbx only GBP account but I can withdraw GBP no problem when I walk in.
What ever currency you open your bank account with is what you will be able to withdraw in person.(I had major issues with Vietcom bank when I tried to open a USD$ account and ended up tossing my hands up in the air and leaving the bank) I've used HSBC atm's and only can get out dong. Cambodia U can get USD$ from ATM's.
If your coming in from Europe keep your euro's, much better than usd$.
Can you please be more specific on this?
Do you mean to say that euros are better accepted/exchanged than usd's.
I was planing to change euros into usd at home before coming to Vietnam the way I do for Cambodia.
It will be good news if I don't have to do it.
Thanks
Doing my homework preparing my first visit to Vietnam I found this info
ATMs can be a choice as it’s very popular in most of tourist destinations now. Vietcombank (VCB) has the best network in the country. Withdrawals are issued *in Dong (50,000d and 100,000d only). There is a *limit of 2,000,000d (about US$125) for each withdrawal and a daily limit of 20,000,000d. Fee is 50,000d (US$3) each time.
Pasted from http://www.activetravelvietnam.com/traveltips/currency.html
Considering my bank's charge of 4.40 euros per transaction I think it is very expensive for getting only the equivalent of 125 usd
My 2 Dongs
I haven't used TC's in years, but considering that I can get them at no fee and that the ATM charges are so high, is it a better way to go? I know it might be a bit of a pain to cash them but I'm thinking going to a bank every 5 days or so might be better than ATMs. I think I read non-amex checks are required for Vietnam.
A bit off topic in this forum, but I assume if I can get USD from an ATM in Cambodia that I can cash USD travelers cheques for USD in Cambodia? I need to find out about Thailand too as I'll probably hit Pattaya for a few days before I head home. I'm flying into HCMC and home from BKK, be there for about a month. I'd guess ATM's are more convenient in Thailand.
No ATM's can dispense $ in Vietnam.
Other banks such as Dong A bank have cash machines that can spit out 5 or even 8 million Dong at one time, reducing per transaction fees considerably compared to Vietcombank which only produces 2 million per. In HCM City, Dong A has as many if not more ATMs than Vietcombank.
Bring $ cash. The Gold Shops on Le Loi across the street from Saigon Center are usually fair. Look for one near the corner with a handsome and very muscular guy at the counter. He's friendly. Ask the rate to buy Dong first. Changes day to day but should be at least 19,400 now compared to banks at 18,500. Ask for better than whatever they offer you. Ask at a few shops.
WARNING: Count your Dong CAREFULLY BEFORE stepping away from the counter. Don't worry about taking your time and don't think about others behind you. It's hard to count VN cash for beginners. Get it clear in your mind, use a calculator. Don't rush and don't move from the counter until you are satisfied. Nobody will rush you. After you move from the counter it's too late to correct. There can easily be errors, both accidental and deliberate.
If you will be here for a while, bring $, change to Dong. You can open a current account in Dong and withdraw as you need it. Passport is necessary to open and to withdraw. ATM card takes a week to process.
I'd guess ATM's are more convenient in Thailand.
You can get 20.000 Baht/transaction. Bank charges on the Thailand side are 150 Baht/transaction. They ask you and you must accept it in order to proceed with the transaction.
The last few days there are reports that the Bank of Ayuthaya ATM's do not charge that fee any more.
Can you please be more specific on this?
Do you mean to say that euros are better accepted/exchanged than usd's.
I was planing to change euros into usd at home before coming to Vietnam the way I do for Cambodia.
It will be good news if I don't have to do it.
Thanks
euro has a better exchange rate than usd.
There's a gold shop at 83 Cong Quynh that a lot of the tourist businesses use to exchange their dollars into dong. They give the same rate to anyone who walks in, and do so much business sometimes you have to wait in line.
The last time I checked, the 'spread' on US dollars was very small -- that's the difference between the buy rate and the sell rate at the shop. For Euros and Aussie dollars it was much larger -- which basically means they take a higher % for exchanging those types. (but haven't checked lately! so maybe it's changed). These days you can count on getting about 1000 more per dollar at these shops than at banks. Most important: these rates are available to anyone walking in the door.
Mik, so when you say there's better rates for the Euro, do you mean at banks? Also, what are you using for comparison to find out how good the rate is? I know there's usually different rates posted on the currency exchange sites like xe and oanda than are actually available in the country itself. Those are based on international currency trading, so are usually at least a little diff than what's offered in the country itself (banks, currency exchanges, etc).
If I get free time I might check on the Euro buy-sell rates at the gold shop this week.
Member #2234
01-05-10, 18:45
ATM card takes a week to process.
Go to HSBC and open a VND account, you get your card within 5 minutes ;-)
There's a gold shop at 83 Cong Quynh that a lot of the tourist businesses use to exchange their dollars into dong. They give the same rate to anyone who walks in, and do so much business sometimes you have to wait in line.
The last time I checked, the 'spread' on US dollars was very small -- that's the difference between the buy rate and the sell rate at the shop. For Euros and Aussie dollars it was much larger -- which basically means they take a higher % for exchanging those types. (but haven't checked lately! so maybe it's changed). These days you can count on getting about 1000 more per dollar at these shops than at banks. Most important: these rates are available to anyone walking in the door.
Mik, so when you say there's better rates for the Euro, do you mean at banks? Also, what are you using for comparison to find out how good the rate is? I know there's usually different rates posted on the currency exchange sites like xe and oanda than are actually available in the country itself. Those are based on international currency trading, so are usually at least a little diff than what's offered in the country itself (banks, currency exchanges, etc).
If I get free time I might check on the Euro buy-sell rates at the gold shop this week.
If I need to change money I use theshop on Mac Thi Boui - thats all they do.
One of the things that really annoys about currency rates anywhere is the huge spread on currencies other than US$. US$ is usually about 6% and most others it is over 10%. Banks suck.
If I need to change money I use theshop on Mac Thi Boui - thats all they do.
One of the things that really annoys about currency rates anywhere is the huge spread on currencies other than US$. US$ is usually about 6% and most others it is over 10%. Banks suck.
The spread here in VN on USD is nowhere near 6%. It's more like .6% or roughly 100 Dong. Means if the gold shop gives you 19,400 Dong for a US Dollar, you would have to give them 19,500 Dong to buy a Dollar. Actually it's more like 1% in tourist areas which would be roughly 200 Dong. Quite reasonable.
It's true that the buy/sell spreads on other currencies here are much higher.
JD
Thanks for the earlier replies to my money questions.
I've never been to Asia before and I'm trying to make a decision about my itinerary. I'm flying into HCMC in early Feb and home from BKK in late Feb, about 3 1/2 weeks total. I'm going solo and would like to do a bit of scuba diving, some touristy things, and hook-up with some hot Asians. I'd like to spend a fair bit of time in beach towns. I'm more into a few quality GFE type experiences than a quantity of ST girls. I’m on somewhat of a budget, in Vietnam terms I’m thinking $20-$25 decent budget hotels if that give you an idea. I also do a lot of research and don't pay more than market rates. Cuba is my main destination and it drives me nuts the way people over-pay and screw things up.
My plan was to spend a couple of days in HCMC, then head to Nha Trang for about 5 days. I’m still planning to do this. After that I was going to go over land to Phnom Penh, then Siem Reap, then overnight to Sihanoukville and from there to Pattaya. That would give me a day or two in Bangkok at the end. I’m starting to realize this a lot of time on buses and not enough on nice beaches.
I’m thinking about scrapping all this and instead going back to HCMC from Nha Trang and flying to Cebu instead. From there I would fly back to Bangkok a few days before my flight home.
I originally wanted to go to the Philippines, but I used points for my flight and it wouldn’t work. The travel time through Cambodia is a big factor. I know I could do a couple of flights but they aren’t cheap. I’d like to see Angkor Wat, but I think I might have a better time on a beach in Cebu. I’ve also been on DIA and not getting far with girls in Vietnam while getting bombarded by emails from hotties from Cebu.
I’m not sure if this is right place to post this, but I am starting my trip in Vietnam and I’m hoping to get a couple of opinions from SEA regulars. I think if I’m going to Cebu I need to book my flights ASAP. Feel free to PM me or flame me or whatever.
I've never been to Asia before and I'm trying to make a decision about my itinerary. .
I am far from being an expert on Vietnam. Actually I have never being there before but I am doing my research and home work the way you do.
It is my understanding from the various travel sites that I visited that once in Vietnam spending a couple of days in the Ha Long bay area is a must. There must be plenty of diving opportunities there too.
Consider landing at Hai Phong from Saigon and then get to Cat Ba island by ferry stay a day or two there and then go to Ha Long by hydrofoil take a one day cruise there and you are done.. That is avoiding Nha Trang. Otherwise land at Hanoi from NhaTrang and go to Ha Long only.
Crossing from Sihanoukville to Pattaya will be a pain in the ass and time consuming. It will be much easier to go back to PP and fly to BKK from there on Airasia. There are direct buses from the airport to Pattaya every 2 hrs up to about 9pm.
It is my understanding from the various travel sites that I visited that once in Vietnam spending a couple of days in the Ha Long bay area is a must. There must be plenty of diving opportunities there too.
Consider landing at Hai Phong from Saigon and then get to Cat Ba island by ferry stay a day or two there and then go to Ha Long by hydrofoil take a one day cruise there and you are done.. That is avoiding Nha Trang. Otherwise land at Hanoi from NhaTrang and go to Ha Long only.
Diving is not good at Halong Bay. For that Nhatrang is considered best, with a few other decent spots around the country (e.g. Con Dao, Phu Quoc, Hoi An - see http://www.divevietnam.com/main.shtml for best available info) -- these don't match up to best places in Thailand or Malaysia though.
You mention going to "Ha Long" by ferry -- do you mean the bay itself (with the small limestone islands) or the town with that name back on the mainland? The town isn't worth visiting, the bay is. If you visit the bay, I'd recommend a smaller craft than a hydrofoil for the best experience. For example there are some islands that have small cavelike passageways that go all the way through the island to the other side, which is a highlight of the visit, and you'd completely miss that experience if you were on a big hydrofoil -- can only do it on a very small boat, and even then must duck down. Also, Cat Ba island itself doesn't offer much to see -- it's really just a fairly pleasant base for heading out to the bay. There's pretty much nothing to do there but eat, drink and sleep.
First of all thank you for taking the time and the info.
What I said is that someone can go from Cat Ba island to Halong city by hydrofoil. The ride is about an hour and they run 2-3 times a day.
Then there can get a one day tour on the bay, using the smaller crafts as you say, or even stay overnight on one of those boats in the bay.
Since diving is not that good both in Cat Ba and Halong, as you say, then Methos must simply disregard my post.
Thanks
First of all thank you for taking the time and the info.
What I said is that someone can go from Cat Ba island to Halong city by hydrofoil. The ride is about an hour and they run 2-3 times a day.
Then there can get a one day tour on the bay, using the smaller crafts as you say, or even stay overnight on one of those boats in the bay.
Since diving is not that good both in Cat Ba and Halong, as you say, then Methos must simply disregard my post.
Thanks
Oh you meant Halong city -- but the main reason to go out to Cat Ba is that it's an island that is IN the bay, out amongst all the small limestone islands, so that would be the best place to get a boat to explore the bay and islands.
[QUOTE=Methos]Thanks for the earlier replies to my money questions..
Then head to Nha Trang for about 5 days.
Nha Trang can be cheap. Where bus dropped me, I was shoehorned into the hotel at USD $7 night with aircon. (same place with the travel shop).
I would say NTrang has everything HCMC D1 has, only better.
700ml Cointrea was 280, 000 dong at local grog shop. Proving duty free a ripoff. A blind massage down the sidestreet from the 007 disco was 40, 000 dong hour, tip 40K. But no hint of hanky panky.
I went on the all day Coral tour. The coral, or whats left of it is shit. Murky water, low on fish. Extra fees for grotto tour and to use a beach.
Vinapearl's artifical beach may be a different story on millionaires island may be different.
There is also a all you can drink get pissed boat tour. Not much $10 mark. Now that, and the party atmosphere at the backpackers. Well lots of non vn action was a possibility, if not lots of clubs.
Philippines, diving and muff diving better there.
My plan was to spend a couple of days in HCMC, then head to Nha Trang for about 5 days. I’m still planning to do this. After that I was going to go over land to Phnom Penh, then Siem Reap, then overnight to Sihanoukville and from there to Pattaya. That would give me a day or two in Bangkok at the end. I’m starting to realize this a lot of time on buses and not enough on nice beaches.
I’m thinking about scrapping all this and instead going back to HCMC from Nha Trang and flying to Cebu instead. From there I would fly back to Bangkok a few days before my flight home.
Thanks for the suggestions. I couldn't find a decent deal on a flight to Cebu, but I found one to Phuket so I'm heading there after Vietnam. I know it'll be really touristy, but I would like to see it. I got a cheap flight on Air Asia. I'm not sure how long I'll stay. I booked 5 nights and I'll probably go to Bangkok/Pattaya for the rest of the time.
I'm not 100% sure on this but I think the HSBC atm can, I know for 100% sure you can if you walk into the HSBC bank anyway. Also inside the HSBC bank in the city centre there are several atms and I think they are DIFFERENT (some pay in $s ??)
I might be totally wrong on the atm thing but only trying to help.
I don't have a USD account with hsbx only GBP account but I can withdraw GBP no problem when I walk in.
Just to add a note on this. I went to HSBC. They do not dispense $ from their ATMs. They also won't allow the withdrawal of dollars from a USA based HSBC US dollar account. My assumption is that if you have an HSBC US dollar account that you opened in VN, then you can withdrawal US dollars...but that is not my case so I can't say that I've done it.
Member #2234
01-21-10, 17:16
Yeah I found that out 2 days ago when I went and tried the ATM just out of curiosity. I did however manage to withdraw 110,000usd in cash out of my account without any notice. Just had to wait 10 minutes and give them a reason why I need so much usd, but it was no problem at all, the whole amount was withdrawn in usd without any drawbacks.
Can you fly one way into HCMC?
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