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Can you fly one way into HCMC?
I think it depends on nationality, if you are required a visa (= in that case most likely they want to see a proof you get out of the country)
pretty much normal stuff worldwide. Even democatric countries as USA often ask you if yu have a return ticket.
Albeit some time they let some guy board a plane with a one way ticket (he thought he did not need to return, the bummer!)
and what's your plan, once you are in HCMC: stay there for life? or Exit by land?
Just a curiosity
I think it depends on nationality, if you are required a visa (= in that case most likely they want to see a proof you get out of the country)
pretty much normal stuff worldwide. Even democatric countries as USA often ask you if yu have a return ticket.
Albeit some time they late some guy board a plane with a one way ticket (he thought he did not need to return, the bummer!)
and what's your plan, once you are in HCMC: stay there for life? or Exit by land?
Just a curiosity
Exit by land
Phred Phish
01-26-10, 03:49
File this one under "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. " I've been here before, but my survival skills seem to be rusty. Anyway, as you'll see, it's not all bad. But there is a genuine robbery in this report, so just skim through and read that part if you're in a hurry and new in town.
Arrived from Hong Kong in the early evening, and checked into a decent looking hotel at the far reaches of district 1, the name of which I got from the website of a certain notorious Singaporean who may or may not be in jail right now (according to chatter on the board).
I first headed out to Hai Ba Trung area. On the advice of another report, went into #91. Immediately swarmed by a gaggle of pretty girls, the most assertive of which immediately attached herself to me. Always an annoying situation. Anyway, ordered a tiger beer, they started a tab, and went upstairs to play a game of pool with the assertive one. I don't like pool very much. As we're cueing up, she says, "If I lose, I'll take off my clothes. If you lose, you'll give me 100, 000 dong. " It must have been the long flight because I wasn't mentally nimble enough to get out of that one. Needless to say, she won. Oh well. Small money in the big picture. So I go downstairs to pay for my single tiger beer, and the tab was 125, 000 dong. Interesting. I find that places like this are usually honest, and was taken aback enough that again, I didn't deal with it. So I decided to swallow the tab rather than argue I'll vote with my feet and never come back there again. Cost: $225, 000 for 15 minutes of beer and pool/life lesson.
Next part is happier. You know all those annoying moto drivers who call out to you at every corner on Hai Ba Trung? Well, I actually listened to what he had to say. He can take me to a place where there are lots of pretty girls and they will go back to my hotel for an hour for $600, 000 dong (+US $10 if one needs a temporary hotel room). So I got in a cab with him, went to a place not far away, and he takes me to a room with three very pretty girls, probably all 18-19 yo). I didn't have 600, 000 on me, so I gave the papasan 100, 000, and he tells me to give the girl another 600, 000 when we're done. (Okay, an extra 100, 000, but whatever). I took the girl back to my place for an hour and all was as advertised. Very beautiful, not lacking at all in enthusiasm. Much better!
I know that the moto guy got a commission, but he provided a useful service. Good, honest work.
Later on at night, however. I'd had a couple of beers in the backpacker ghetto of Pham Ngu Lao, and was walking towards the New World Hotel when a motorbike with a mamasan and her employee rode up to me. The girl was very pretty, and they were offering $250, 000. Despite the knowledge that if something sounds too good to be true it probably is (I blame the beers for this one), I ended up on the back of her motorbike. I should have known there was a problem when she didn't take me to my hotel, but went to a seedy place in the other direction. My guard was way up at this point, but there's only so much you can do when you're hurtling along on the back of a motorbike. So we go up to the hotel, and (1) she's not so pretty anymore in the light (2) she won't take her clothes off, and (3) seems to be very focused on washing me and giving me a BJ. But the whole thing had lost every bit of its magic, so I decided to get dressed and get out, with the intent of paying her what we agreed on. I didn't have the chance to because she was out of the room before I could blink. I look at my wallet, which never left my pants pocket (that I saw) and realized that she had lifted most of the cash from it. Very smooth. She should quit the sex/crime industry and do magic shows. She was nice enough to leave some small bills cab money, essentially. Total cost of that lesson: $1, 200, 000 dong, more or less. On the way out, I mentioned to the hotel people that she robbed me. Their response: "You don't know that. " Anyway, what am I going to do, call the police?
Okay, so I licked my wounds and found an ATM. Still pretty cheap lessons, less in total than the cost of a parking ticket where I come from.
Next stop, at about 1 am, Apocalypse now. Ratio of guys to girls was unfavorable but at least it was safe. Eventually I eyed the prettiest girl in the place, which is usually not a good idea, particularly when she has an intoxicated large male Vietnamese guy hanging with her. This girl was really, really model quality, so I decided to just flat out put my cards on the table, and offered $100 USA long time. She wouldn't have considered anything less. She still didn't seem excited at all and kept arguing with the Vietnamese guy, who I figured had about a 50 percent chance of shooting me at some point. But eventually, after a lot of drama, we head into a cab and head to my place. She's pouting the whole way. Ugh. When we get to my place and gives her ID card, she mutters something about being worried about being worried about police raids. Given how I found this place, I am too now! So she gets into the room and says, $100, short time, right? She knew we said long time. For whatever reason, she just didn't want to be there. So she left. Cost of that whole thing (excluding labor charge), a couple hundred thousand dong for drinks for her and her friend. At that point I called it a night.
Anyway, this police raid thing has me a little bit wigged out. If any kind member could take pity on me and PM me the name/location of a nice gf hotel that doesn't feel depressing and isn't in the boondox, I'd be completely grateful. Or if anybody needs some company and wants to head out in search of safer adventure, let me know that too. There's safety in numbers, I suppose.
My main goals for tonight: Not to get on any more motorcycles, and not to get entangled with any more drunk Vietnamese dudes who are larger than I am. Those are the "what doesn't kill you" parts of the aphorism.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
MutantChicken
01-26-10, 07:33
File this one under "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. " I've been here before, but my survival skills seem to be rusty. Anyway, as you'll see, it's not all bad. But there is a genuine robbery in this report, so just skim through and read that part if you're in a hurry and new in town.
Arrived from Hong Kong in the early evening, and checked into a decent looking hotel at the far reaches of district 1, the name of which I got from the website of a certain notorious Singaporean who may or may not be in jail right now (according to chatter on the board).
I first headed out to Hai Ba Trung area. On the advice of another report, went into #91. Immediately swarmed by a gaggle of pretty girls, the most assertive of which immediately attached herself to me. Always an annoying situation. Anyway, ordered a tiger beer, they started a tab, and went upstairs to play a game of pool with the assertive one. I don't like pool very much. As we're cueing up, she says, "If I lose, I'll take off my clothes. If you lose, you'll give me 100, 000 dong. " It must have been the long flight because I wasn't mentally nimble enough to get out of that one. Needless to say, she won. Oh well. Small money in the big picture. So I go downstairs to pay for my single tiger beer, and the tab was 125, 000 dong. Interesting. I find that places like this are usually honest, and was taken aback enough that again, I didn't deal with it. So I decided to swallow the tab rather than argue I'll vote with my feet and never come back there again. Cost: $225, 000 for 15 minutes of beer and pool/life lesson.
Next part is happier. You know all those annoying moto drivers who call out to you at every corner on Hai Ba Trung? Well, I actually listened to what he had to say. He can take me to a place where there are lots of pretty girls and they will go back to my hotel for an hour for $600, 000 dong (+US $10 if one needs a temporary hotel room). So I got in a cab with him, went to a place not far away, and he takes me to a room with three very pretty girls, probably all 18-19 yo). I didn't have 600, 000 on me, so I gave the papasan 100, 000, and he tells me to give the girl another 600, 000 when we're done. (Okay, an extra 100, 000, but whatever). I took the girl back to my place for an hour and all was as advertised. Very beautiful, not lacking at all in enthusiasm. Much better!
I know that the moto guy got a commission, but he provided a useful service. Good, honest work.
Later on at night, however. I'd had a couple of beers in the backpacker ghetto of Pham Ngu Lao, and was walking towards the New World Hotel when a motorbike with a mamasan and her employee rode up to me. The girl was very pretty, and they were offering $250, 000. Despite the knowledge that if something sounds too good to be true it probably is (I blame the beers for this one), I ended up on the back of her motorbike. I should have known there was a problem when she didn't take me to my hotel, but went to a seedy place in the other direction. My guard was way up at this point, but there's only so much you can do when you're hurtling along on the back of a motorbike. So we go up to the hotel, and (1) she's not so pretty anymore in the light (2) she won't take her clothes off, and (3) seems to be very focused on washing me and giving me a BJ. But the whole thing had lost every bit of its magic, so I decided to get dressed and get out, with the intent of paying her what we agreed on. I didn't have the chance to because she was out of the room before I could blink. I look at my wallet, which never left my pants pocket (that I saw) and realized that she had lifted most of the cash from it. Very smooth. She should quit the sex/crime industry and do magic shows. She was nice enough to leave some small bills cab money, essentially. Total cost of that lesson: $1, 200, 000 dong, more or less. On the way out, I mentioned to the hotel people that she robbed me. Their response: "You don't know that. " Anyway, what am I going to do, call the police?
Okay, so I licked my wounds and found an ATM. Still pretty cheap lessons, less in total than the cost of a parking ticket where I come from.
Next stop, at about 1 am, Apocalypse now. Ratio of guys to girls was unfavorable but at least it was safe. Eventually I eyed the prettiest girl in the place, which is usually not a good idea, particularly when she has an intoxicated large male Vietnamese guy hanging with her. This girl was really, really model quality, so I decided to just flat out put my cards on the table, and offered $100 USA long time. She wouldn't have considered anything less. She still didn't seem excited at all and kept arguing with the Vietnamese guy, who I figured had about a 50 percent chance of shooting me at some point. But eventually, after a lot of drama, we head into a cab and head to my place. She's pouting the whole way. Ugh. When we get to my place and gives her ID card, she mutters something about being worried about being worried about police raids. Given how I found this place, I am too now! So she gets into the room and says, $100, short time, right? She knew we said long time. For whatever reason, she just didn't want to be there. So she left. Cost of that whole thing (excluding labor charge), a couple hundred thousand dong for drinks for her and her friend. At that point I called it a night.
Anyway, this police raid thing has me a little bit wigged out. If any kind member could take pity on me and PM me the name/location of a nice gf hotel that doesn't feel depressing and isn't in the boondox, I'd be completely grateful. Or if anybody needs some company and wants to head out in search of safer adventure, let me know that too. There's safety in numbers, I suppose.
My main goals for tonight: Not to get on any more motorcycles, and not to get entangled with any more drunk Vietnamese dudes who are larger than I am. Those are the "what doesn't kill you" parts of the aphorism.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.This part you haven't been ripped off you just don't undertand the system, if you don't pay to take out the gal then you are expected to tip the gal for her time and to buy a few lady drinks. If you decidedto take out thebgal then its about 60 USD ST. Read the forum and wendella explains it very well.
Did you get the address of the establishment seem quite good value. Please tell me you did, because if you didn't whats the point for future reference.
Finally is a gal is unhappy right from the start, then why the hell would you persist?
Black Panda
01-26-10, 12:10
File this one under "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. " I've been here before, but my survival skills seem to be rusty. Anyway, as you'll see, it's not all bad. But there is a genuine robbery in this report, so just skim through and read that part if you're in a hurry and new in town.
Arrived from Hong Kong in the early evening, and checked into a decent looking hotel at the far reaches of district 1, the name of which I got from the website of a certain notorious Singaporean who may or may not be in jail right now (according to chatter on the board).
I first headed out to Hai Ba Trung area. On the advice of another report, went into #91. Immediately swarmed by a gaggle of pretty girls, the most assertive of which immediately attached herself to me. Always an annoying situation. Anyway, ordered a tiger beer, they started a tab, and went upstairs to play a game of pool with the assertive one. I don't like pool very much. As we're cueing up, she says, "If I lose, I'll take off my clothes. If you lose, you'll give me 100, 000 dong. " It must have been the long flight because I wasn't mentally nimble enough to get out of that one. Needless to say, she won. Oh well. Small money in the big picture. So I go downstairs to pay for my single tiger beer, and the tab was 125, 000 dong. Interesting. I find that places like this are usually honest, and was taken aback enough that again, I didn't deal with it. So I decided to swallow the tab rather than argue I'll vote with my feet and never come back there again. Cost: $225, 000 for 15 minutes of beer and pool/life lesson.
Next part is happier. You know all those annoying moto drivers who call out to you at every corner on Hai Ba Trung? Well, I actually listened to what he had to say. He can take me to a place where there are lots of pretty girls and they will go back to my hotel for an hour for $600, 000 dong (+US $10 if one needs a temporary hotel room). So I got in a cab with him, went to a place not far away, and he takes me to a room with three very pretty girls, probably all 18-19 yo). I didn't have 600, 000 on me, so I gave the papasan 100, 000, and he tells me to give the girl another 600, 000 when we're done. (Okay, an extra 100, 000, but whatever). I took the girl back to my place for an hour and all was as advertised. Very beautiful, not lacking at all in enthusiasm. Much better!
I know that the moto guy got a commission, but he provided a useful service. Good, honest work.
Later on at night, however. I'd had a couple of beers in the backpacker ghetto of Pham Ngu Lao, and was walking towards the New World Hotel when a motorbike with a mamasan and her employee rode up to me. The girl was very pretty, and they were offering $250, 000. Despite the knowledge that if something sounds too good to be true it probably is (I blame the beers for this one), I ended up on the back of her motorbike. I should have known there was a problem when she didn't take me to my hotel, but went to a seedy place in the other direction. My guard was way up at this point, but there's only so much you can do when you're hurtling along on the back of a motorbike. So we go up to the hotel, and (1) she's not so pretty anymore in the light (2) she won't take her clothes off, and (3) seems to be very focused on washing me and giving me a BJ. But the whole thing had lost every bit of its magic, so I decided to get dressed and get out, with the intent of paying her what we agreed on. I didn't have the chance to because she was out of the room before I could blink. I look at my wallet, which never left my pants pocket (that I saw) and realized that she had lifted most of the cash from it. Very smooth. She should quit the sex/crime industry and do magic shows. She was nice enough to leave some small bills cab money, essentially. Total cost of that lesson: $1, 200, 000 dong, more or less. On the way out, I mentioned to the hotel people that she robbed me. Their response: "You don't know that. " Anyway, what am I going to do, call the police?
Okay, so I licked my wounds and found an ATM. Still pretty cheap lessons, less in total than the cost of a parking ticket where I come from.
Next stop, at about 1 am, Apocalypse now. Ratio of guys to girls was unfavorable but at least it was safe. Eventually I eyed the prettiest girl in the place, which is usually not a good idea, particularly when she has an intoxicated large male Vietnamese guy hanging with her. This girl was really, really model quality, so I decided to just flat out put my cards on the table, and offered $100 USA long time. She wouldn't have considered anything less. She still didn't seem excited at all and kept arguing with the Vietnamese guy, who I figured had about a 50 percent chance of shooting me at some point. But eventually, after a lot of drama, we head into a cab and head to my place. She's pouting the whole way. Ugh. When we get to my place and gives her ID card, she mutters something about being worried about being worried about police raids. Given how I found this place, I am too now! So she gets into the room and says, $100, short time, right? She knew we said long time. For whatever reason, she just didn't want to be there. So she left. Cost of that whole thing (excluding labor charge), a couple hundred thousand dong for drinks for her and her friend. At that point I called it a night.
Anyway, this police raid thing has me a little bit wigged out. If any kind member could take pity on me and PM me the name/location of a nice gf hotel that doesn't feel depressing and isn't in the boondox, I'd be completely grateful. Or if anybody needs some company and wants to head out in search of safer adventure, let me know that too. There's safety in numbers, I suppose.
My main goals for tonight: Not to get on any more motorcycles, and not to get entangled with any more drunk Vietnamese dudes who are larger than I am. Those are the "what doesn't kill you" parts of the aphorism.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Hey Phred,
I sympathise with you and your misadventures. Try some of the hotels at Ly Tu Trong Street. There are a few girl friendly hotels there but I can't remember the name of it. Around that area, you can find some nice relaxing hair wash shops which will give you a nice relaxed hair wash and facial followed by massage for a reasonable price by a nice looking girl. The shops are on Truong Dinh Street and Le Anh Xuan Street. All very clean.
And after that, if you wish to go a nice and reasonably priced pub for a drink, where the bar girls are nice and friendly to talk to (yes, they all speak english) and will not fleece you and play pool for free, pop over at 44 Pasteur Street. I find it a comfortable place to relax and drink in the company of the pretty lasses there.
Have a nice evening,
Phred
Hey Phred,
Around that area, you can find some nice relaxing hair wash shops which will give you a nice relaxed hair wash and facial followed by massage for a reasonable price by a nice looking girl. The shops are on Truong Dinh Street and Le Anh Xuan Street. All very clean.
Phred
I think we have to regularly inform many newbies to Vietnam that these hair wash establishments are legit and there is no funny business in the massage room. A couple of months a go, one guy reported that he got quite embarrassed when trying to be touchy.
Hey Phred,
I sympathise with you and your misadventures. Try some of the hotels at Ly Tu Trong Street. There are a few girl friendly hotels there but I can't remember the name of it. Around that area, you can find some nice relaxing hair wash shops which will give you a nice relaxed hair wash and facial followed by massage for a reasonable price by a nice looking girl. The shops are on Truong Dinh Street and Le Anh Xuan Street. All very clean.
And after that, if you wish to go a nice and reasonably priced pub for a drink, where the bar girls are nice and friendly to talk to (yes, they all speak english) and will not fleece you and play pool for free, pop over at 44 Pasteur Street. I find it a comfortable place to relax and drink in the company of the pretty lasses there.
Have a nice evening,
Phred
Black Panda,
Are you and Phred Fish the same person? Why is this message addressed to Phred and then signed by Phred? Are you coincidentally both named Phred?
JD
Black Panda,
Are you and Phred Fish the same person? Why is this message addressed to Phred and then signed by Phred? Are you coincidentally both named Phred?
JD
This is the kind of thing that was happening in that other forum that you've heard about, new "members" would appear and be talking with each other, and gradually clues would surface revealing they were the same person. After we figured it out, we realized there were over 20 fake personas the guy was using, and what he was doing was basically trying to create the false impression that a lot of these new members (him really) were coming on seeking advice, and here was the wise old sage of the forum (him) to dish it out. ANyone else who came on giving advice would be slammed by his new member allies (him of course) with personal attacks or else refuting any advice they gave. For example, if you came on and gave good advice, his "clones" would then reply that you were full of doggy-doo and the info you posted was false and you were a trouble maker. It went on like this for a month before we finally got the upper hand and got him pretty much banned from the site.
I'm not saying this guy is like that, but I'd say it's in the nature of people who use multiple user names to do all kinds of other nasty stuff way beyond that.
I agree, it looks very suspicious that these 2 brand new members are both signing off the same way. One thing with lying -- it's a lot harder to remember lies than to remember the truth. On the face of it, the below post appears to be someone using multiple user names and forgetting who he was posting as.
This is a better managed forum than the other. I'll report the post and let Jackson track it to see if it's a "clone". It could even be our friend from the other forum.
Paranoia, maybe. Or else just experience.
Black Panda
01-27-10, 06:35
Black Panda,
Are you and Phred Fish the same person? Why is this message addressed to Phred and then signed by Phred? Are you coincidentally both named Phred?
JDHi JD,
Nope. Don't know Phred from Adam and not the same person. I did not sign off as Phred. I said "Have a nice day Phred" but I put a comma after day and "Phred" went to the next line! I was surprised too when the post came out and looks like Phred signed off the message. Sorry for the confusion, JD
BP
Black Panda
01-27-10, 06:40
This is the kind of thing that was happening in that other forum that you've heard about, new "members" would appear and be talking with each other, and gradually clues would surface revealing they were the same person. After we figured it out, we realized there were over 20 fake personas the guy was using, and what he was doing was basically trying to create the false impression that a lot of these new members (him really) were coming on seeking advice, and here was the wise old sage of the forum (him) to dish it out. ANyone else who came on giving advice would be slammed by his new member allies (him of course) with personal attacks or else refuting any advice they gave. For example, if you came on and gave good advice, his "clones" would then reply that you were full of doggy-doo and the info you posted was false and you were a trouble maker. It went on like this for a month before we finally got the upper hand and got him pretty much banned from the site.
I'm not saying this guy is like that, but I'd say it's in the nature of people who use multiple user names to do all kinds of other nasty stuff way beyond that.
I agree, it looks very suspicious that these 2 brand new members are both signing off the same way. One thing with lying. It's a lot harder to remember lies than to remember the truth. On the face of it, the below post appears to be someone using multiple user names and forgetting who he was posting as.
This is a better managed forum than the other. I'll report the post and let Jackson track it to see if it's a "clone". It could even be our friend from the other forum.
Paranoia, mayB. Or else just experience.Wendella
Do not have so much time to waste having so many personas. Was just trying to help out Phred after being fleeced. Am not a new member and have been reading the forum for yonks. Just never posted much in here that's all.
BP
This is the kind of thing that was happening in that other forum that you've heard about, new "members" would appear and be talking with each other, and gradually clues would surface revealing they were the same person. After we figured it out, we realized there were over 20 fake personas the guy was using, and what he was doing was basically trying to create the false impression that a lot of these new members (him really) were coming on seeking advice, and here was the wise old sage of the forum (him) to dish it out. ANyone else who came on giving advice would be slammed by his new member allies (him of course) with personal attacks or else refuting any advice they gave. For example, if you came on and gave good advice, his "clones" would then reply that you were full of doggy-doo and the info you posted was false and you were a trouble maker. It went on like this for a month before we finally got the upper hand and got him pretty much banned from the site.
I'm not saying this guy is like that, but I'd say it's in the nature of people who use multiple user names to do all kinds of other nasty stuff way beyond that.
I agree, it looks very suspicious that these 2 brand new members are both signing off the same way. One thing with lying -- it's a lot harder to remember lies than to remember the truth. On the face of it, the below post appears to be someone using multiple user names and forgetting who he was posting as.
This is a better managed forum than the other. I'll report the post and let Jackson track it to see if it's a "clone". It could even be our friend from the other forum.
Paranoia, maybe. Or else just experience.
Wendella - we see this fairly often but I don't bother getting excited unless some one is actually trying to sell something or someone!
Wendella
Do not have so much time to waste having so many personas. Was just trying to help out Phred after being fleeced. Am not a new member and have been reading the forum for yonks. Just never posted much in here that's all.
BP
Ah ok sorry about that then! Yeah I'm a bit gun shy about that kind of thing, if you'd seen what that character in the other forum did, you'd hopefully understand. Great to hear you're a real person! And again, my apologies for that.
W
Black Panda
01-28-10, 12:18
Ah ok sorry about that then! Yeah I'm a bit gun shy about that kind of thing, if you'd seen what that character in the other forum did, you'd hopefully understand. Great to hear you're a real person! And again, my apologies for that.
WNo problem, mate. Understand your concern and the extend that some people would do to create trouble. Just enjoy yourself like JD and keep up the good work.
BP
Phred Phish
01-29-10, 15:39
(regarding the chatter after my last post)
There is only one me. I have been a lurker for years (without bothering to sign up). I just had an intersting night and thought it was worth posting.
You guys are indeed a little bit paranoid!
I'm gone from vietnam now. In Cambodia where everything seems to be on the table. So no more posts for me on this board for awhile.
-me
P.S. Black Panda, thanks for the helpful suggestions. For those of you who asked about the name of the place that the moto guy took me to, I don't remember. But there seem to be a million places like it. Just ask any moto guy around Hai Ba Trung. Pay him the small comission and help the local economy!
Explorerman
01-30-10, 09:44
(regarding the chatter after my last post)
There is only one me. I have been a lurker for years (without bothering to sign up). I just had an intersting night and thought it was worth posting.
You guys are indeed a little bit paranoid!
I'm gone from vietnam now. In Cambodia where everything seems to be on the table. So no more posts for me on this board for awhile.
-me
P.S. Black Panda, thanks for the helpful suggestions. For those of you who asked about the name of the place that the moto guy took me to, I don't remember. But there seem to be a million places like it. Just ask any moto guy around Hai Ba Trung. Pay him the small comission and help the local economy!
Honestly, I would not recommend these motorbike things, certainly for visitors. You are just as likely to be taken someplace and robbed, as you are likely to get some fun. The forum is full of sad reports of people getting taken somewhere, and either robbed right away, or robbed while in a shower, or variations thereof. There are far safer ways to get what you want.
Phred Phish
02-04-10, 10:53
Honestly, I would not recommend these motorbike things, certainly for visitors. You are just as likely to be taken someplace and robbed, as you are likely to get some fun. The forum is full of sad reports of people getting taken somewhere, and either robbed right away, or robbed while in a shower, or variations thereof. There are far safer ways to get what you want.You make a reasonable point, and like anything else in life one needs to keep his wits about himself. For the record, I never actually got on a bike with one of these guys. We took a taxi together. That way, if the place or neighborhood seemed too sketchy, there was always an escape route. I did this a couple of times, both with fine resuts.
Easy Rider 2
03-07-10, 01:12
I am going to post this in all three country forums and evaluate the responses over the next day or two before deciding. I would really appreciate your opinions.
I am planning my first trip in April for a week to either Vietnam, Thailand or the Philippines.
Would you please offer your opinions to someone who has never been to either of these places?
I love to monger but I also enjoy going to some of the touristy/scenic/historic locations of countries I visit.
I was thinking that Vietnam might be a good combination because I was in the service during the Vietnam War, although not actually in Vietnam. But there are many important places there that I would like to see. I'm just not sure how much I can do of the visiting while also taking care of the mongering especially since I will only be there for a week and many of the Vietnam era sights are spread out and may be in smaller cities or rural areas.
The other choices are Thailand and the Philippines. Thailand is definitely cheaper than Manilla to fly to from Los Angeles. Plus I read on the threads that it costs less to monger in Thailand than in the Philippines.
I think there might be some more important historical and other sights to see in Thailand than in the Philippines, but that is just an impression. I am not sure what I would do in the Philippines other than monger. I am not a beach person due to my age (59) and fair skin.
I would appreciate your thoughts. Please don't read into the above comments that I necessarily prefer Vietnam. In fact I was originally thinking about the Philippines, then about Thailand due to the cost of the flights. I then started thinking about Vietnam but it is still only a thought.
I am first and foremost committed to the mongering aspects and would like that to be given the largest weight in any advice you care to give.
Also if you think there is somewhere else I should consider like Jakarta or Singapore for my first ever mongering trip please let me know.
Thank you very much for your insights.
ER2
I am first and foremost committed to the mongering aspects and would like that to be given the largest weight in any advice you care to give.
Thank you very much for your insights.
ER2This sentence alone makes it very easy for you to rule OUT Vietnam for your short trip. I guarantee you it is far and away the WORST choice of the three, if as you say you are first and foremost committed to the mongering aspects.
JD
Crocodilexp
03-08-10, 03:58
I am planning my first trip in April for a week to either Vietnam, Thailand or the Philippines. Would you please offer your opinions to someone who has never been to either of these places?
Thailand wins hands down for a first-timer. Foreigner-oriented mongering scene is huge and varied (especially in Pattaya). Hotels and food are cheap and convenient, tourist infrastructure is great (ATMs on every corner), it's easy to get around, and generally safe. While normal Thai girls in Bangkok look amazing, the PFP variety at reasonable cost is distinctly less good looking... but generally work hard and provide decent service.
Vietnam has amazingly cute girls (both regular and PFP), much more than Thailand and PI (IMHO). In HCMC, it's possible to get a HJ or BJ from a 9/10 looker for $10. However, mongering in VN is not convenient nor easy and can often be frustrating at times (for a first-timer may end up very expensive). However, for non-mongering activities, Vietnam is great. Walking around is safe and generally convenient. If you avoid obvious ripoffs, everything is cheap (even cheaper than Thailand). Service is great. Bangkok may have more tourist spots, but people in HCMC are friendly and still have a genuine curiosity about foreigners that Thais have mostly lost.
Philippines are a dump. Hotels and transport are more hassle and more expensive than Thailand for distinctly lower quality. Crime is an issue, cannot just walk anywhere anytime. Filipinas are probably the least hot Asian women (both bargirls and normal girls). On the upside, long time rate for Angeles City agogo bar pussy may be marginally cheaper than in Pattaya agogos (but then, Pattaya is 10x bigger and has many options AC lacks, at both lower and higher end). Filipinas are more desperate to marry (e.g. use condoms less, more friendly to low end punters than Thais). Beaches may be nice, but getting to them is not pleasant.
In summary, if mongering is your main purpose but you also want to see touristy stuff, go to Thailand. If you like talking to natives, and mongering is secondary (you're patient/don't mind getting frustrated with PFP attempts) go to Vietnam. If you're visibly decaying and desperate to get married, go to PI.
On another note, April 13-18 is Songkran holiday in Thailand. It means you'll get splashed by cold water wherever you go, no matter how you're dressed. It can be fun, some people love it, others don't.
Thailand wins hands down for a first-timer. Foreigner-oriented mongering scene is huge and varied (especially in Pattaya). Hotels and food are cheap and convenient, tourist infrastructure is great (ATMs on every corner), it's easy to get around, and generally safe. While normal Thai girls in Bangkok look amazing, the PFP variety at reasonable cost is distinctly less good looking... but generally work hard and provide decent service.
Vietnam has amazingly cute girls (both regular and PFP), much more than Thailand and PI (IMHO). In HCMC, it's possible to get a HJ or BJ from a 9/10 looker for $10. However, mongering in VN is not convenient nor easy and can often be frustrating at times (for a first-timer may end up very expensive). However, for non-mongering activities, Vietnam is great. Walking around is safe and generally convenient. If you avoid obvious ripoffs, everything is cheap (even cheaper than Thailand). Service is great. Bangkok may have more tourist spots, but people in HCMC are friendly and still have a genuine curiosity about foreigners that Thais have mostly lost.
Philippines are a dump. Hotels and transport are more hassle and more expensive than Thailand for distinctly lower quality. Crime is an issue, cannot just walk anywhere anytime. Filipinas are probably the least hot Asian women (both bargirls and normal girls). On the upside, long time rate for Angeles City agogo bar pussy may be marginally cheaper than in Pattaya agogos (but then, Pattaya is 10x bigger and has many options AC lacks, at both lower and higher end). Filipinas are more desperate to marry (e.g. use condoms less, more friendly to low end punters than Thais). Beaches may be nice, but getting to them is not pleasant.
In summary, if mongering is your main purpose but you also want to see touristy stuff, go to Thailand. If you like talking to natives, and mongering is secondary (you're patient/don't mind getting frustrated with PFP attempts) go to Vietnam. If you're visibly decaying and desperate to get married, go to PI.
On another note, April 13-18 is Songkran holiday in Thailand. It means you'll get splashed by cold water wherever you go, no matter how you're dressed. It can be fun, some people love it, others don't.
Well said - generally agree. But Vietnam can be excellent for NWG if you have time as can Philpines outside of Manila/Angeles.
I have found the website “TAGGED” very helpful in the past, in the two years that I lived in Hanoi I managed to find a number of girlfriends via this site ranging from 30 – 48 years and I must say that the 48 year old was the best fuck I have ever had. She was married so we never managed an all nighter but did she rattle we tried it all, she was up for anything.
Recently I was working in Bangkok and needed to spend a week in HCMC so again I took advantage of “TAGGED” and bingo managed to arrange two meets both of which turned out successful, I always make sure that we both know what we are after before to avoid disappointment on both sides.
Why pay when there is all this free pussy floating around
Go to HSBC and open a VND account, you get your card within 5 minutes ;-)Weird. I had a EURO account for a while, and to get the VND Debit card from HSBC, I had to open the account, and then wait for a week to get the card. Both accounts are in HCMC, and I was in Hanoi.
Hi guys,
It was an old request but here are some tracks:
- iPhone app called Lingo Pal: cheap, but it gives you some nice & funny sentences
- Urban Dictionary website:
http://www.Urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vietnamese+fuck
- and a nice pdf:
http://www.topology.org/tex/ns/README.html
Then speaking vietnamese could be really trivial as the same word with different accent means up to 7 different things.
Happy Harry
03-26-10, 08:13
Guys, I just created a "Tagged" group for us. ISG Brotherhood.
I have been communicating with a girl from VN from one of the singles sites. She has sent me photos and looks nice. She claims to have a college degree and works for an American company in HCM. I am going to HCM in 2 weeks.
She wants to pick me up at the airport and has agreed to spend the night with me and wants to spend a few days at the beach.
I am just wondering what you guys think. I know this could be a disaster and I don't want to wake up with my liver removed or nuts chopped off.
Any suggesstions.
I have been communicating with a girl from VN from one of the singles sites. She has sent me photos and looks nice. She claims to have a college degree and works for an American company in HCM. I am going to HCM in 2 weeks.
She wants to pick me up at the airport and has agreed to spend the night with me and wants to spend a few days at the beach.
I am just wondering what you guys think. I know this could be a disaster and I don't want to wake up with my liver removed or nuts chopped off.
Any suggesstions.Luvpuss.
I have been dating a viet girl for 2 years already. No problem at all. I am working with a travel agencies and meet her on my flight back to my country. Helping her and meeting her during her stay in my country. When she went back to HCM we still meet until now. Money exchange regularly as we need. She allow me to 'have' her whenever I visited HCM. It is nice having a Viet as a 'wife' at her place. Of course money is something for you to consider. To me, what is 1mil Dong for the love and care.
Regards.
Joe Coodidge
03-29-10, 09:46
I have been communicating with a girl from VN from one of the singles sites. She has sent me photos and looks nice. She claims to have a college degree and works for an American company in HCM. I am going to HCM in 2 weeks.
She wants to pick me up at the airport and has agreed to spend the night with me and wants to spend a few days at the beach.
I am just wondering what you guys think. I know this could be a disaster and I don't want to wake up with my liver removed or nuts chopped off.
Any suggesstions.
If it were me, I would not have her pick me up at the airport. Get your own ride. Meet her someplace else of your choosing (public). After you check her out in person, then you decide if you want to go the next step.
She claims to have a college degree and works for an American company in HCM. I am going to HCM in 2 weeks.
Its not Herbalife isit?
Mash Potatoes
03-29-10, 12:50
If it were me, I would not have her pick me up at the airport. Get your own ride. Meet her someplace else of your choosing (public). After you check her out in person, then you decide if you want to go the next step.Joe's idea is prob the best bet. If you met her on the net, then it's more than likely she was initially out to snag a sugar daddy to help her along. Even though you've developed a 'relationship' with her, she might not be all that she's written about. And Visa Verse.
Meet in public. Have a coffee, exchange chit chat and see if it all adds up. The worst that could happen is that she'll be waiting for you expecting a nice gift.. if it's not your cup of tea, then bye.
In general, I've never heard of any Vietnamese local scams going international.
MutantChicken
03-29-10, 13:48
I have been communicating with a girl from VN from one of the singles sites. She has sent me photos and looks nice. She claims to have a college degree and works for an American company in HCM. I am going to HCM in 2 weeks.
She wants to pick me up at the airport and has agreed to spend the night with me and wants to spend a few days at the beach.
I am just wondering what you guys think. I know this could be a disaster and I don't want to wake up with my liver removed or nuts chopped off.
Any suggesstions.No regular gal without an agenda would be that generous. So she prob is a over the hill gal trying to hook something. Just put urself into anotehr persons shoes, if your an attractive young gal. Would you be that generous?
I'd meet her once before I give her too much information.
If it were me, I would not have her pick me up at the airport. Get your own ride. Meet her someplace else of your choosing (public). After you check her out in person, then you decide if you want to go the next step.I like that idea also. My flight comes in around midnight and I actually would appreciate her assistance, but better to be safe.
Thanks
Its not Herbalife isit?Hell, could be. I didn't ask her. She claims she was able to get 3 days off to spend with me. Must have a nice boss.
I like that idea also. My flight comes in around midnight and I actually would appreciate her assistance, but better to be safe.
Thanks
A lot of the bar gals in Vung Tau are from Saigon and into the Multilevel thing. They have time for it.
Book a $30-40 hotel near the centre of District 1 - most of the ones on Mac Thi Boui or Thi Sach are GF.
When you exit the airport go left past all the spruikers and get a taxi from Mai Linh company (guy in white short and green tie). Do not use Saigon Airport taxis or independents - they will rip you off.
Meet your gal in one of the cafes/bars in D1 in daylight.
Heading to Saigon and just wondering what decent 4 star is close to the Action? Is the Metrople close?
Pokey Penguin
03-31-10, 09:02
Luvpuss, for sure, you should meet her in person before you go any further. I've met tons of Viet girls online, and find that 90% of the time they don't look like their pictures when you meet them. Their pics are usually photoshopped, often were taken 10 years ago when they were hotter, were taken at camera angles that hide their wide nose, narrow-set eyes or other imperfections, often don't reveal their awful teeth, and, many times, the pics are completely fake, some beautiful-model pic that they downloaded from the net and posted on their profiles. I also got very excited once from my correspondence with one girl who turned out to be a ladyboy when I met her.
Even if you chat with her with webcam, you can be deceived, because webcam cameras tend to prettify a girl, as their low resolution hides facial imperfections. There's no substitute for a face to face meeting, and even then you can be deceived, because she might be wearing skin whitening cream, padded bra, etc. She might have a malodorous box.
Really, the only way to evaluate a girl quickly and accurately is to take her to a hotel, wash her makeup off with soap and then remove her bra and do her. Then you know if she is worth your investment of time and money. :)
Luvpuss, for sure, you should meet her in person before you go any further. I've met tons of Viet girls online, and find that 90% of the time they don't look like their pictures when you meet them. Their pics are usually photoshopped, often were taken 10 years ago when they were hotter, were taken at camera angles that hide their wide nose, narrow-set eyes or other imperfections, often don't reveal their awful teeth, and, many times, the pics are completely fake, some beautiful-model pic that they downloaded from the net and posted on their profiles. I also got very excited once from my correspondence with one girl who turned out to be a ladyboy when I met her.
Even if you chat with her with webcam, you can be deceived, because webcam cameras tend to prettify a girl, as their low resolution hides facial imperfections. There's no substitute for a face to face meeting, and even then you can be deceived, because she might be wearing skin whitening cream, padded bra, etc. She might have a malodorous box.
Really, the only way to evaluate a girl quickly and accurately is to take her to a hotel, wash her makeup off with soap and then remove her bra and do her. Then you know if she is worth your investment of time and money. :)Thanks everybody. You guys are definitely making me think about this.
Pretty funny comments by some.
I am going to convince her to meet for coffee first. I think her photos are real. She has sent me about 10. 2 of them she was at a zoo and did not appear to have makeup. She looked at lot better with it, but still was doable.
There are a couple of photos that definitely look like US neighborhoods with US signs, etc. I just got those yesterday and have not asked her about it. Makes me curious though. We will see what happens. I may just blow the whole thing off and hit up some BJ and sex shops.
Thanks
Hi all:
I'm a fairly experienced monger but this is my first trip to Vietnam and was wondering if anyone wanted to catch up tonight (Saturday) and show me the ropes. I'm only here in Saigon tonight and then heading to Vung Tau for a couple of days - staying at the Renaissance Riverside.
.....JT
Happy Harry
04-03-10, 11:44
I just received a private question from a fellow senior member about how to get Tagged/DIA girls.
I've been doing it for just over a week and I think I've gotten the gist.
Initially i tried being forceful with the girls i.e. take her to dinner and insist on her returning with me to my hotel. It doesn't really work unless you're pretty damn good looking and the girl is drunkish.
The formula that works for me is:
1. Find profiles of girls that you find attractive. The best are the ones that show a girl smiling, nightclub scenery, semi clad, picture in a bedroom, or provocative position.
2. Develop a rapport with the girl over a week using some of her native language (use google translate) using a lot of i miss you crap, you are fun, so pretty... - it's amazing if any girls really fall for this shite (major insecurity complexes)
3. Arrange a nice meet e.g. expensive coffee betteryet japanese ice cream parlours
4.Take her on (2)2-3 hour dates. By the end of the 2nd date you should start to turn up the naughtiness factor e.g. comment on her being sexy, suggesting some more revealing clothing.
5. The next date should be planned so that you meet for dinner/club/bar and go back to your place to watch some tv... (any excuse will be fine).
Realistically if she's resistant by this point then it's better to ditch her b/c they're the types who like to lead you on. There are just too many babes out there for you to waste your time on just one.
6. Bang and ditch (nicely is preferable)
7. Post pictures so I and JD can meditate
I hope that Pokey Penguin isn't reading this because I'm sure that he'll be outraged =D
HH
Happy Harry
04-03-10, 11:55
I just received a private question from a fellow senior member about how to get Tagged/DIA girls.
I've been doing it for just over a week and I think I've gotten the gist.
Initially i tried being forceful with the girls i.e. take her to dinner and insist on her returning with me to my hotel. It doesn't really work unless you're pretty damn good looking and the girl is drunkish.
The formula that works for me is:
1. Find profiles of girls that you find attractive. The best are the ones that show a girl smiling, nightclub scenery, semi clad, picture in a bedroom, or provocative position.
2. Develop a rapport with the girl over a week using some of her native language (use google translate) using a lot of i miss you crap, you are fun, so pretty... - it's amazing if any girls really fall for this shite (major insecurity complexes)
3. Arrange a nice meet e.g. expensive coffee betteryet japanese ice cream parlours
4.Take her on (2)2-3 hour dates. By the end of the 2nd date you should start to turn up the naughtiness factor e.g. comment on her being sexy, suggesting some more revealing clothing.
5. The next date should be planned so that you meet for dinner/club/bar and go back to your place to watch some tv... (any excuse will be fine).
Realistically if she's resistant by this point then it's better to ditch her b/c they're the types who like to lead you on. There are just too many babes out there for you to waste your time on just one.
6. Bang and ditch (nicely is preferable)
7. Post pictures so I and JD can meditate
I hope that Pokey Penguin isn't reading this because I'm sure that he'll be outraged =D
How do you guys get girls to agree to nudes photos?!
Here's another few photos of Thuy
HH
Scoubidick
04-03-10, 14:05
Well,
Guys, I find you a bit unfair players to not mention the 2 biggest fuck online factory of Vietnam, as named vietsingle and vietnamcupid. Yes, that 3 days processing works and its mathematicly possible (especially for people living in hcm)to undress 365/3 little doves pear year, for one is good at agenda.
However, banging as many as non-pro requier a level of perversion superior to simply having fun, as well as a outstanding mental energy to stop and go.
It's not really worth the game to be a don juan. Breaking-up is often critical. After some years in vietnam, appart find your own gem, I will recommand people to have fun to avoid this habit of vn gals to act like your mother and wife starting the point one of your finger is engaged below the clit.
Hi all:
I'm a fairly experienced monger but this is my first trip to Vietnam and was wondering if anyone wanted to catch up tonight (Saturday) and show me the ropes. I'm only here in Saigon tonight and then heading to Vung Tau for a couple of days - staying at the Renaissance Riverside.
JTHow is that Hotel?
I am staying there also in a few weeks.
Pokey Penguin
04-08-10, 10:30
BTW, PP and those who support him (if there are any), I have pictures of hundreds of girls I have done here but have only posted and will post only a small fraction of them due to reasons discussed here. If I have to hide the face, and I often do if I want to post it, I don't post because I don't like the way those pictures look. If there is a girl where I know it is ok, I post her face and body. PP, you never even bothered to ask me if these girls are ok with their pictures. They are.
JD
John, if you are really getting these girls' permission to show their pics on the net, then I commend you and apologize.
So let's clarify this.
You ask her permission to post her naked pics containing Full Facial Nudity on the internet, right?
You inform her that her pics will be accompanied by text that indicates that she is a WG in Vietnam, right?
You are careful to make clear to her that you are not just going to send her naked pics to your buddies by email, you are going to post them permanently on a website where the whole world will have access to the pics forever, right?
You communicate these things clearly to her despite the fact that the two of you speak different languages. And she understands, right?
So this clear, complete communication takes place, and she then agrees that you can post her pics?
To me, that indicates that these girls are not very bright and not capable of thinking through the ramifications of their actions. Since you're old enough to be their father, maybe you should act like a father and tell her not to do it, eh? :)
Even more likely, I think the girl does not really understand what you intend to do with the pics. Vietnamese often pretend to understand a foreigner when they really don't, so as not to lose face.
Pokey Penguin
04-08-10, 10:54
Regarding the argument that the girl could also be spotted by a man she knows and that is the same as having her picture on the net...no, it is not the same, because an acquaintance who sees her hooking and tells others in her hometown is giving hearsay evidence. The girl could deny it, and say that he is mistaken and saw some other girl who looks similar to her. Photographic evidence is far more damaging and, being on the internet, far more accessible.
The posters who have argued that lots of WGs have pics on their websites in other countries are missing the point. VN is not like other countries. It's not like some WG in HK, where prostitution is legal, having her pic on a website. In VN, outing a WG carries a much greater risk to the girl. And that's what you're doing when you post her pic with her face revealed on the net -- you are outing her. You are acting like her enemy would act.
And there's no valid comparison to porn stars, amateur or pro, posting their pics on the internet. That's a totally different thing, done with their understanding and consent.
Anyway, the Penguin wants this discussion to end, too, so he won't repost the newer posts that Jackson deleted. But he will summarize them by saying that:
1) There's good reason to believe that Vietnamese people will access these ISG pics in Vietnam. Even in little villages in the Delta, there are internet cafes. ISG is accessible in VN, Viet Kieu know about it, and can tell people in VN about it.
2) Posting these pics with unretouched faces is indiscreet and indiscretion threatens the future of a hobby that is already under siege.
3) There's no need to black out or blur her entire face. A very thin horizontal black box is in most cases sufficient to cover her eyes and make it very difficult to identify her.
Let me suggest the alternative that JD or anyone else who likes to post pics with Full Facial Nudity start a mailing list and email the pics to their fan clubs. I know guys who have done this, and it works well. In that case, maybe you don't even need the girl's permission and can reveal many more faces.
How is that Hotel?
I am staying there also in a few weeks.
Renaissance Riverside is not GF but there are plenty of small GF hotels nearby.
About this idea of having one's image broadcast to the world in a way you have no control over, in a context you wouldnt' want to be seen in...
Last time I was in Phnom Penh, I was walking down St 104 one night checking out all the girls in front of the bars outside, considering which bar to go into. As I reached the end of the small street, I looked up to see a big video camera there with a team of white foreigners behind it, clearly a professoinal setup. My guess is they were shooting for some documentary. I turned around to look behind me and there weren't any other foreigners walking in the street at the moment. It means there was a really good chance they had just shot me as the perfect example of the big bad western foreign sex predator getting his jollies in poor vulnerable impoverished Phnom Penh. I reached the end of the street because I finally decided not to go into any of the bars, by the way, but the image wasn't too concerned about that particular truth. Aterward I was thinking about it, wondering, will I end up on CNN because of this one moment? Will my family see this and spot me? Or people they know see it and give them strange looks? Maybe it's gonna be a program about kids getting abused there, and I'll become the poster boy.
Of course I felt outraged that there was no warning, no one asking if they could use my image, no idea what it was for. It felt like my image was being stolen for them to use any way they wanted.
The details of how it might result in a bad situation or how likely that is aren't that important. Once the picture goes on the net, it's broadcast, anything can happen, and the person has no control over how their image is used.
I came across some porn video online that was basically a private video shot by some young Indian couple for their own entertainment that somehow got found and put out on the net -- according to the notes about it, they both ended up killing themselves as a result. (No way to verify it.) Is that gonna happen most of the time? Of course not, but the truth is nobody knows what might happen. It's pandora's box being opened, for the person depicted at least. Even if most of the time nothing happens, it's the few times that something does happen that matter. Eventually someone is gonna get burned.
Let me suggest the alternative that JD or anyone else who likes to post pics with Full Facial Nudity start a mailing list and email the pics to their fan clubs. I know guys who have done this, and it works well. In that case, maybe you don't even need the girl's permission and can reveal many more faces.
Thanks for your advice and suggestions PP. I understand your points perfectly well so there is no need to repeat them again.
I will continue to post pictures of who I like and how I like, taking your suggestions into consideration.
Now it's time for you to contribute something to ISG. That can be photos, original reports, confirmations of other's reports, etc. Just anything by you but criticisms of other's contributions and efforts will do.
JD
Pokey Penguin
04-12-10, 08:14
Thanks JD. I'm glad we could end this discussion cordially. I will take your advice and post more reports, not just criticize. Unfortunately I'm not having a lot of great mongering experiences lately so it might seem like I'm whining, not reporting :)
Pokey Penguin
04-12-10, 08:24
wendella, that is a chilling report. i have often walked down that street before, and the same thing could have happened to me. the ngos and us govt will stop at nothing to convince the world that all mongers are ****s and use that as an excuse to snuff out the hobby.
in a sane world, prostitution would be seen as a good, not an evil, wgs would be admired and have high social status, and the media would focus on govt officials who promote cluster bombs and landmines that kill and mutilate thousands of children every year as the real evildoers. but this ain't a sane world.
Cunning Linguist
04-29-10, 23:27
Thanks for your advice and suggestions PP. I understand your points perfectly well so there is no need to repeat them again.
I will continue to post pictures of who I like and how I like, taking your suggestions into consideration.
Now it's time for you to contribute something to ISG. That can be photos, original reports, confirmations of other's reports, etc. Just anything by you but criticisms of other's contributions and efforts will do.
JD
Hi John,
I would just like to know how important it is to speak Vietnamese in order to get the girls you do. I assume that you speak it well but is a handful of Vietnamese enough (I assume English is not spoken too much, especially in the North)? I find that a knowledge of Thai is an advantage in Thailand and even Laos (although some girls don't like it because they can't get away with a lot). In China, it is a absolute must, at least in my limited experience (I won't talk about my experiences in Haiti and the DR, knowledge of the languages is a huge advantage). I am a big fan of your photos!!!!
About this idea of having one's image broadcast to the world in a way you have no control over, in a context you wouldnt' want to be seen in... ....
As I reached the end of the small street, I looked up to see a big video camera there with a team of white foreigners behind it, clearly a professoinal setup. My guess is they were shooting for some documentary. ......
Afterward I was thinking about it, wondering, will I end up on CNN because of this one moment? Will my family see this and spot me? Or people they know see it and give them strange looks? Maybe it's gonna be a program about kids getting abused there, and I'll become the poster boy.
something does happen that matter. Eventually someone is gonna get burned.
Professional crews for those reports usuall blur the faces during post-production.
In some other situations there are signs you might be filmed for "....blah blah" and you can ask your image to be remvoed (happens in shooting for some shows where they need real life images)
Can someone tell me how much it will cost me from Saigon Airport to District 1?
Can someone tell me how much it will cost me from Saigon Airport to District 1?
It's 100k or about $5.30 U.S. from the airport to d1. When you leave the airport you'll be hounded by taxi touts trying to get you to pay $10 or more. Look for vinasun, mai linh or vinataxi. These are good taxi services with honest meters. Also, make sure and use one of these companies when going around town.
It's 100k or about $5.30 U.S. from the airport to d1. When you leave the airport you'll be hounded by taxi touts trying to get you to pay $10 or more. Look for vinasun, mai linh or vinataxi. These are good taxi services with honest meters. Also, make sure and use one of these companies when going around town.
When you leave the terminal walk to the left to find these companies.
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if teaching english is a good way to spend time in Viet Nam? Have any of you guys met any American spending time teaching and mongering?
Your opinions will be greatly appreciated. If any are teaching english, is the salary enough to live on?
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if teaching english is a good way to send time in Viet Nam? Have any of you guys met any American sending time teaching and mongering?
Your opinions will be greatly appreciated. If any is teaching english, is the salary enough to live on?
My very inconsequential opinion: If you are "sending time" anywhere, let alone in Vietnam, you should not be teaching English.
Raverboy,
What are you doing in Viet Nam for a living? Anyone else teaching and mongering in Viet Nam?
TallTales007
05-29-10, 17:29
There are many people of many nationalities teaching English in VN. Saigon and Nha Trang are good places to pick up work. There has been a clamp down on visas over the past 6 odd months. This was to flush out undesirables who where working without work permits. But it seems you can now get 3 - 6 month visas again. Mongering is possible here but it takes time to work things out. This is not Thailand or the Phils, or Cambodia. A few basic Vietnamese words work wonders!! Don't fall for the motor scooter girls in Saigon. They will rob you blind. Spend some time on Tagged or Vietsingle and make contacts.
There are many people of many nationalities teaching English in VN. Saigon and Nha Trang are good places to pick up work. There has been a clamp down on visas over the past 6 odd months. This was to flush out undesirables who where working without work permits. But it seems you can now get 3 - 6 month visas again. Mongering is possible here but it takes time to work things out. This is not Thailand or the Phils, or Cambodia. A few basic Vietnamese words work wonders!! Don't fall for the motor scooter girls in Saigon. They will rob you blind. Spend some time on Tagged or Vietsingle and make contacts.
The visa clamp down starts July 1st. Starting then you will only be able to get a 1 month tourist visa and no extention (unless you have a work permint). My understanding is this was done to force out the illegal Chinese workers and the Nigerian criminals.
Crocodilexp
06-13-10, 12:04
Can someone tell me how much it will cost me from Saigon Airport to District 1?
You can take a 152 bus to Ben Tranh market (District 1, close to Pham Ngu Lao). It stops right outside the terminal, and costs 3000 dong ($0.15). Then, from Ben Tranh, more honest taxis (Vinasun, Mai Linh) are available for a metered ride anywhere in D1 (20-60k dong or so).
You can take a 152 bus to Ben Tranh market (District 1, close to Pham Ngu Lao). It stops right outside the terminal, and costs 3000 dong ($0.15). Then, from Ben Tranh, more honest taxis (Vinasun, Mai Linh) are available for a metered ride anywhere in D1 (20-60k dong or so).
Yes, this information is correct [Ben THANH MARKET, not Tranh]. If your bags are manageable simply walk over to the 152 bus. It used to actually stop on De Tham Street as well, in the heart of the budget traveler district. Not sure if it does now. If you come all the way from the airport it's only about 100k or so but taxi drivers at the airport are very difficult and rip offs abound. Mostly they try to fix a price with you beforehand and refuse the meter. Avoid that. ALso many companies are not legit companies, the Saigon Airport Taxi is not a good company. Only VinaSun and Mai Linh are really good. Best bet is to find one of those dropping someone else off, but men with clubs may try to dissuade them from taking you and chase them away as they are touts (guards) paid to guide new arrivals toward rip offs. This has been going on for a long time despite many complaints and article in the newspaper. Welcoming visitors to VN with a tax rip off seems to be traditional hospitality and good preparation for the rip offs that await the unsuspecting and the unprepared at every step of their Vietnam journey. At the airport, walk away from the crowd and toward the drop off area to look for a real taxi. Easy if your bags are manageable, if not it is more difficult. Anyway, the rip off cheat price may be just 200k or about $10 and the meter around $5 depending where you are going so it's not going to break the bank either way.
JD
Hi everyone,
I have a question about hotels. I apologize if this has been answered previously, but the answers I found didn't exactly fit my situation.
I'm about to spend 3 weeks in Vietnam with a local (not working) girl. We'll be flying around all over the place to most of the major cities. How much trouble will I have checking into a hotel room with her? I am a normal looking young American, and she is a normal looking young Vietnamese girl. Is the trouble mostly bringing girls back at night, or will there be major hassle even checking in?
It sounds like the bigger cities are a bit more strict about WG, so if I would have trouble, could someone recommend nice places in Hanoi and Saigon I may have less issues with?
If I do have issues, should I even both and try and pay off the person at check-in? My Vietnamese friends have joked I could probably kill someone and get away with it for a US $20 bribe, but I don't know how serious they were. I try not to break rules in Asian countries
Any tips would be great, thanks!
It's 100k or about $5.30 U.S. from the airport to d1. When you leave the airport you'll be hounded by taxi touts trying to get you to pay $10 or more. Look for vinasun, mai linh or vinataxi. These are good taxi services with honest meters. Also, make sure and use one of these companies when going around town.I'll be moving over for work next month. This is very useful info thanks.
Hi everyone,
I'm about to spend 3 weeks in Vietnam with a local (not working) girl. We'll be flying around all over the place to most of the major cities. How much trouble will I have checking into a hotel room with her? I am a normal looking young American, and she is a normal looking young Vietnamese girl. Is the trouble mostly bringing girls back at night, or will there be major hassle even checking in?
The 4 and 5 star hotels most likely wont let you check-in together (if they say no a tip wont help you) but many of the 3 stars and under will. I've been to every major tourist location and have always found a place, maybe not my 1st choice, but a suitable hotel. If I were you I'd look for hotels online and give them a call. Just ask if your Viet gf can stay with you. This has always worked for me. If you want specific gf hotels in the areas you're traveling, send me a PM and I'll give you some.
I arrived to VN in early April, acquiring a 3 month visa on arrival. I am staying until early August so I required an extension. There was a post a short time ago that mentioned there were not going to be extensions granted after the beginning of July. I was a bit worried that I might have to go out and return, perhaps by air to stay until August.
I just got a 1 month extension this month, it was expensive($42), and took a week, although I didn't shop around at all. The extension is a stamp along with a another stamp that says $10.
I went the travel agency on the corner of PNL & Nguyen Thai Hoc, at the beginning of the "Backpackers" area.
The 4 and 5 star hotels most likely wont let you check-in together (if they say no a tip wont help you) but many of the 3 stars and under will. I've been to every major tourist location and have always found a place, maybe not my 1st choice, but a suitable hotel. If I were you I'd look for hotels online and give them a call. Just ask if your Viet gf can stay with you. This has always worked for me. If you want specific gf hotels in the areas you're traveling, send me a PM and I'll give you some.
Actually my experience is different when I travelled in Vietnam some years ago. The Hilton in Hanoi used to let foreign men with their Vietnamese girlfriend check in together. A lot of it has to do with how you and your girl present yourselves. You or your lady should book the hotel as a double room for two persons. If they don't raise any issues then, express complete surprise if they tell you that you cannot stay. Ask to see the manager. Always be polite but firm.
My experience was that most of the trouble was in hotels in the North, especially the below 4 star hotels. In my humble opinion, you generally do not get trouble from the hotels down south. And if presentable, you should not get trouble from the 4 star and upwards hotels if you book in advance. But if the girl looks like a typical bar girl or pro, then you will have problems.
We do have a thread about hotels in HCMC and other locations are also discussed.
If you want your friend to stay all night you generally need to use nothing more than a 2 star property. Whether you arrive together or not only matters at the mid-range hotels where things are not so certain.
As a guide anything under $40 in HCMC or Hanoi should be OK, under VND500,000 in other big towns and less than that in places like Vung Tau or Can Tho.
I arrived to VN in early April, acquiring a 3 month visa on arrival. I am staying until early August so I required an extension. There was a post a short time ago that mentioned there were not going to be extensions granted after the beginning of July. I was a bit worried that I might have to go out and return, perhaps by air to stay until August.
I just got a 1 month extension this month, it was expensive($42), and took a week, although I didn't shop around at all. The extension is a stamp along with a another stamp that says $10.
I went the travel agency on the corner of PNL & Nguyen Thai Hoc, at the beginning of the "Backpackers" area.
same price every where. Vietnamese businesses are very competitive. There might be a couple bucks difference, but they don't dare charge you too much. There are dozens of others waiting to lease that same space to open another travel shop.
At current, I pay 30 dollars for a 30 day extension and 85 usd for 3 months visa.
If you need the info hit me up but I don't have PMing so idk.
Just wanted to add here that I am back and had no problem with any hotels I went to, all 3-5 stars in Hanoi, Nha Trang, the Lat. And Ho Chi Minh. No one batted an eye, we just checked in with my passport and her Vietnamese ID card thing.
We do have a thread about hotels in HCMC and other locations are also discussed.
If you want your friend to stay all night you generally need to use nothing more than a 2 star property. Whether you arrive together or not only matters at the mid-range hotels where things are not so certain.
As a guide anything under $40 in HCMC or Hanoi should be OK, under VND500, 000 in other big towns and less than that in places like Vung Tau or Can Tho.
Just wanted to add here that I am back and had no problem with any hotels I went to, all 3-5 stars in Hanoi, Nha Trang, the Lat. And Ho Chi Minh. No one batted an eye, we just checked in with my passport and her Vietnamese ID card thing.
no time limits like not after 9pm or so?
no time limits like not after 9pm or so?No problem at all, we came in and out all night and most of the places. For reference, here are the places we stayed...
In Hanoi, Conifer Boutique hotel ($80 USd/night)
In Nha Trang, Novotel ($120 USD/night, but amazing view)
In Da Lat, Mercure (Novotel) ($50/night, very old, no AC, wouldn't recommend)
In HCMC, I forgot. Huai Long something? ($40/night)
Hello, guys.
I'm new to this forum a I'm in Vietnam and I have a really newbies questions so be patient please:
1. How do you find sex in this country? I realized you can get girls in KARAOKE placed but the charge you 20000D just for the joint without the girl fee. Isn't there a "proper" *****houses?
2. I read in here about the cat toc/hot toc places. I went to some of them and all of the ones I saw is really public places open to the street. I didn't see a place to shag any where in there. Is really all of them sex places? If not. How can I tell which is which (nobody speaks English in this country).
3. Help me with the forum terminology please. I saw BJ which I know means blow-job and HJ which means hand-job but what are the rest?
4. Finally. What are the rates for sex in this country? I went once to a KARAOKE place and thy charged 200000D for the joint and 500000D for the girl for sex. Are those the proper numbers?
Hello, guys.
I'm new to this forum a I'm in Vietnam and I have a really newbies questions so be patient please:
1. How do you find sex in this country? I realized you can get girls in KARAOKE placed but the charge you 20000D just for the joint without the girl fee. Isn't there a "proper" *****houses?
2. I read in here about the cat toc/hot toc places. I went to some of them and all of the ones I saw is really public places open to the street. I didn't see a place to shag any where in there. Is really all of them sex places? If not. How can I tell which is which (nobody speaks English in this country).
3. Help me with the forum terminology please. I saw BJ which I know means blow-job and HJ which means hand-job but what are the rest? BBBJ, rimming, DFK etc?
4. Finally. What are the rates for sex in this country? I went once to a KARAOKE place and thy charged 200000D for the joint and 500000D for the girl for sex. Are those the proper numbers?
Hello, guys.
I'm new to this forum a I'm in Vietnam and I have a really newbies questions so be patient please:
1. How do you find sex in this country? I realized you can get girls in KARAOKE placed but the charge you 20000D just for the joint without the girl fee. Isn't there a "proper" *****houses?
2. I read in here about the cat toc/hot toc places. I went to some of them and all of the ones I saw is really public places open to the street. I didn't see a place to shag any where in there. Is really all of them sex places? If not. How can I tell which is which (nobody speaks English in this country).
3. Help me with the forum terminology please. I saw BJ which I know means blow-job and HJ which means hand-job but what are the rest? BBBJ, rimming, DFK etc?
4. Finally. What are the rates for sex in this country? I went once to a KARAOKE place and thy charged 200000D for the joint and 500000D for the girl for sex. Are those the proper numbers?
We'd love to help you. You took the time to write several lengthy questions and you were so anxious that you even posted the same questions twice. What you did not take the time to do is read the great wealth of information on Saigon in The VN Forum. The Forum did not begin on the day you posted, it has been going for years. Read it. Click on 'Abbreviations" at the top of the page. They are all there.
In question 4 you quote 700,000 Dong at a Karaoke for full sex (about $35). Do you think that's expensive?
After you have read several months back in each Thread (preferably a year), if you still have questions, ask us. But I think you will have the prices, addresses and service availablity info you need to get off (cheaply if want).
JD
Westernbacon
10-01-10, 13:28
Hello good fellows,
I am in need to renew my Visa here in Vietnam as my 3 months is coming to a near. I thought of taking a weekend trip over to Cambodia, I've already visited Siem Reap(Anchor Wat) and would like to try a new destination spot. Any feedback is appreciated.
Hello good fellows,
I am in need to renew my Visa here in Vietnam as my 3 months is coming to a near. I thought of taking a weekend trip over to Cambodia, I've already visited Siem Reap(Anchor Wat) and would like to try a new destination spot. Any feedback is appreciated.
I just got back from PP last weekend. Great place. Been over there now 3 times. Mostly for shopping. Didn't really do much sightseeing so I can't comment.
Its suprising how "Westernised" PP is becoming now. Lucky supermarket has so many western foods. I wonder how long it will be before they arrive here in VN.
Westernbacon
10-02-10, 06:56
I just got back from PP last weekend. Great place. Been over there now 3 times. Mostly for shopping. Didn't really do much sightseeing so I can't comment.
Its suprising how "Westernised" PP is becoming now. Lucky supermarket has so many western foods. I wonder how long it will be before they arrive here in VN.PP as in Phnom Penh?
Anyone has taken the bus to Phnom Penh?
PP as in Phnom Penh?
Anyone has taken the bus to Phnom Penh?
Yes, Phnom Penh. Stayed at New York Hotel.
We took the Sapaco Tourist bus.
www.sapacotourist.com
200k each way and US$25 for tourist single entry visa for Cambodia.
These bus's look nice from the outside however they are starting to show their age inside. The toilet sometimes dosn't work and you get wafts of sewerage smells, The seat cushions are flat, Rust bubbling along the side at the rear of the bus. Apart from that its not a bad bus trip.
Try to book a ticket when the bus isn't so full. Both trips (There and back) the bus was chockers, with a passenger sitting on a chair in the aisle.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Yes, Phnom Penh. Stayed at New York Hotel.
Mik hcmc, How is New York hotel today look like, i stayed there 3 years ago, it OK, price and staff are OK, any special room that you can recommends? Thanks alot, i planning this coming trip in December, from VN to PP by bus, i took air last time.
[QUOTE=Mik Hcmc]Yes, Phnom Penh. Stayed at New York Hotel.
Mik hcmc, How is New York hotel today look like, i stayed there 3 years ago, it OK, price and staff are OK, any special room that you can recommends? Thanks alot, i planning this coming trip in December, from VN to PP by bus, i took air last time.
http://www.newyorkhotel.com.kh/index.php
They have specials. They had a 45% off and an extra 20% off deal.
Took the std one and it was "cosy" to say the least. Tv worked though the aerial could do with a tune as lots of the channels were fuzzy. AC was freezing cold so it was great.
Had to get housekeeping to bring hot water and put it in a thermos. 3 in 1 coffee was not replaced though it didn't bother me. 2 free 600ml bottles and we drunk extra ones in the bar fridge for no extra charge. US$26/night
The room was on the 2nd floor. Just behind the side staircase next to the fish pond. Easy if you want to bring extra guests.
First time I stayed there I took the Superior room. Larger room with kettle.
If you want to have a larger room then go for the Superior. Level 3 is getting renovated currently. The 8th floor dinning room is pretty much finnished. Didn't check the gym/massage facilities on the 7th floor though.
Westernbacon
10-06-10, 15:09
200k each way and US$25 for tourist single entry visa for Cambodia.
These bus's look nice from the outside however they are starting to show their age inside. The toilet sometimes dosn't work and you get wafts of sewerage smells, The seat cushions are flat, Rust bubbling along the side at the rear of the bus. Apart from that its not a bad bus trip.
Try to book a ticket when the bus isn't so full. Both trips (There and back) the bus was chockers, with a passenger sitting on a chair in the aisle.[/QUOTE]Mik,
Thanks for the info.. what do you mean by "chokers"?
Do you remember how long the bus ride was each way?
By the way I can renew my Visa here for another 3 months and was quoted $40usd.
200k each way and US$25 for tourist single entry visa for Cambodia.
These bus's look nice from the outside however they are starting to show their age inside. The toilet sometimes dosn't work and you get wafts of sewerage smells, The seat cushions are flat, Rust bubbling along the side at the rear of the bus. Apart from that its not a bad bus trip.
Try to book a ticket when the bus isn't so full. Both trips (There and back) the bus was chockers, with a passenger sitting on a chair in the aisle.
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[QUOTE=mikhcmc]Mik,
Thanks for the info.. what do you mean by "chokers"?
Do you remember how long the bus ride was each way?
By the way I can renew my Visa here for another 3 months and was quoted $40usd.
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I too was wondering what it means. I guess it means people were coughing but not really sure. Damn, I wish people would use standard English and not regional or local dialects.
JD
Found on www.britslang.com
Chockers – Another lovely British Slang word that simply means full to the brim or to bursting point.
Black Panda
10-07-10, 05:23
Found on www.britslang.com
Chockers – Another lovely British Slang word that simply means full to the brim or to bursting point.Same same "chocker block"... but different!
Hahaha!
Thanks for the info.. what do you mean by "chokers"?
Do you remember how long the bus ride was each way?
By the way I can renew my Visa here for another 3 months and was quoted $40usd.
As others have pointed out Chockers means full up, hense a passenger sitting on a stool in the middle.
Bit of old aussie/brit lingo. "She was chockers mate"
The bus ride will depend on traffic/what time you leave, How busy the boarder is.
The VN side is always slower than the Cambo side. The white immigration paper is still in use but the bus attendants take care of the paperwork.
We left Binh Chan around 8am, Got into PP by 1330. There is a 20-30minute stop in Moc Bai (Cambodia) at a food shop (kickbacks from owner to bus company no doubt) Apart from that it was a clear run in until the last 20kms or so where there is roadworks and traffic is a bit of a crawl.
Left PP around 10am, got into Maxi Mart on Cong Hoa Tan Binh after 1630.
Coming back there was some odd activities. One girl she didn't have a passport I guess and at the foodstop in Moc Bai she had arranged to hop on a scooter, shoot over the boarder and meet the bus on the other side in VN. She later got dropped off somewhere outside of Cu Chi and was picked up by a SUV, A little while later her friend then had a chat with the bus driver and the bus stopped again and her friend handed her a camera she had forgotten.
Another note I noticed when looking up and fiddling with the AC Vents there was a parcel wrapped in newspaper and taped up inside the ducting. I was able to poke it with my finger and it was hard but slightly yielding. Not sure what it was, perhaps it was to stop too much air flowing out the vents? (or drugs hahaha)
All in all it was another fun trip.
Another note I noticed when looking up and fiddling with the AC Vents there was a parcel wrapped in newspaper and taped up inside the ducting. I was able to poke it with my finger and it was hard but slightly yielding. Not sure what it was, perhaps it was to stop too much air flowing out the vents? (or drugs hahaha)
All in all it was another fun trip.
The newspaper was put there to block the air flow from the AC. I have been in train cars where every one of them has been blocked because of overactive AC.
Westernbacon
10-08-10, 04:27
Anyone have any experience on the following 3 topics?
1) 5 year Visa Exemption for Vietnamese Overseas:
here's some info on the Vietnam embassy site: http://www.vietnamembassy-usa.org/consular_services/visa_exemption/
Is it possible to get a Vietnam visa without the need to renew for 5 years?
2) Applying for a Vietnam driver's license:
I downloaded a form to apply for both a car and motorcycle Vietnamese driver's license, seems like you just need your USA driver's license, pay 30k dong, without taking any written test.
The shitty part is I can't find the weblink but I do have the form.
3) applying for Dual citizenship: USA & Vietnam for overseas Vietnamese
Feed back is appreciated!
Anyone have any experience on the following 3 topics?
1) 5 year Visa Exemption for Vietnamese Overseas:
here's some info on the Vietnam embassy site: http://www.vietnamembassy-usa.org/consular_services/visa_exemption/
Is it possible to get a Vietnam visa without the need to renew for 5 years?
They call this Visa exemption, not a Visa. It is for overseas Vietnamese and also for spouses of Vietnamese. It allows a 90 day stay per entry. It is good for 5 years and costs $20. You can come to VN as many times as needed during that 5 year period, and can stay for up to 90 days each time.
I have never heard about any Visa that does not need to be renewed.
JD
We'd love to help you. You took the time to write several lengthy questions and you were so anxious that you even posted the same questions twice. What you did not take the time to do is read the great wealth of information on Saigon in The VN Forum. The Forum did not begin on the day you posted, it has been going for years. Read it. Click on 'Abbreviations" at the top of the page. They are all there.
In question 4 you quote 700,000 Dong at a Karaoke for full sex (about $35). Do you think that's expensive?
After you have read several months back in each Thread (preferably a year), if you still have questions, ask us. But I think you will have the prices, addresses and service availability info you need to get off (cheaply if want).
JDYour advise is pointless for 2 reason:
1. English isn't my native tongue and although I can read and write it takes me a whole of a long time to read a year back. Which leads to point number 2.
2. I found this place only a day or two before I traveled to vn so I didn't have the time to read a year back so I needed a quick advice which non of you guys provided.
BTW. I did read a few month's back in the nha trang section and let me tell you something. Most of the advices that are older the 1-2 month's are pointless. I wrote names of places and all of the were already irrelevant. So to go and tell me to read a year back?!
I managed to find what I needed on my own without you guys. And yes, 700000 is to much to pay here even if it is only 35$. In nha trang I found girls for ST sex who asked 400000 and that was the opening price. I told them I will give them 400000 if it will be only ok, and I took different girl every night for 4 nights and always gave more (500000 for average, 600000 for good service, one girl was so amazing she got 700000 and let me tell you, she thanked many so much I realized the 700000 I payed at the karaoke was to much).
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Although you didn't help me. Let me be a better man and give anyone who goes to nha trang few advices:
1. Golden Rain Hotel. A very good hotel, very new and pleasant, modern and clean and altogether a recommended place. Only 24 dollar a night (this months. Off season). Thy are GF friendly and most of the time didn't even asked the girls that came to my room to deposit an ID (only 1 time out of five times). Its on the same street as the rainbow diving shop, even same side of the street, a 200 meter toward the beach from there. The breakfast is mediocre at best but who comes to a hotel for the food? All the rest is top notch and you check hotels at 30-40 dollar range that wasn't as good.
2. A good brothel you can find next to the La Mancha restaurant. Ask around, everyone know it. If you get lost just stand outside the golden rain hotel, the hotel should be on your right side, go ahead down the road about 20-30 meters until you will face a T crossroad. Turn right and after 10-20 meter you will have a curve to the right. On that street on the left side, about 10 meter after the la mancha restaurant you will see a place with girls sitting outside. Thy will most likely call you in if you are a guy alone. When I was there thy had about 10-15 girls, at least half of the under 24 and cute as hell. Again. 400000 for ST sex if it was bad, give 500000 for good and 600000 if you really enjoyed. At that price the girl will come with you to your hotel if you like (to my taste its cleaner and more conviviality).
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Anyone have any experience on the following 3 topics?
1) 5 year Visa Exemption for Vietnamese Overseas:
here's some info on the Vietnam embassy site: http://www.vietnamembassy-usa.org/consular_services/visa_exemption/
Is it possible to get a Vietnam visa without the need to renew for 5 years?
2) Applying for a Vietnam driver's license:
I downloaded a form to apply for both a car and motorcycle Vietnamese driver's license, seems like you just need your USA driver's license, pay 30k dong, without taking any written test.
The shitty part is I can't find the weblink but I do have the form.
3) applying for Dual citizenship: USA & Vietnam for overseas Vietnamese
Feed back is appreciated!
I have a Spousal Visa. This is what JD mentioned, a Visa Exemption. Its a pretty stupid system though, Then again this is VN...
I live here but can only live here for 90days at a time.
(Sometimes I wonder if its better to get a 6month multi entry tourist visa and keep extending it like I had done previously)
It has a USD$20 stamp on it though it cost me around $60-$70 from a agent.
The drivers license you are referring to is a translation of your current drivers lic be it USA, UK, OZ etc into a VN one. This will expire when your home lic expires.
You need to get your foreign lic translated, verified etc etc. Not sure how much that will cost. Also you need a heap of passport photos (as usual)
You also need to pass a conversation with a Dr. This will be your medical.
You hand in your forms at the licencing office in D1 and get given a time and date to do your practical.
Then after that you go to do your practical bike test. Figure 8, up and down narrow lanes and your done. Just stay within the white lines and don't put your feet down. I did mine in Binh Chan, Down Cong Hoa and on the left. The lic center supplies the Honda Cub. Leave it in 3rd gear or whatever gear they put it in.
After you pass you collect your completed vn lic in a few days/weeks.
Westernbacon
10-10-10, 16:54
I have a Spousal Visa. This is what JD mentioned, a Visa Exemption. Its a pretty stupid system though, Then again this is VN.
I live here but can only live here for 90days at a time.
(Sometimes I wonder if its better to get a 6month multi entry tourist visa and keep extending it like I had done previously)
It has a USD$20 stamp on it though it cost me around $60-$70 from a agent.
The drivers license you are referring to is a translation of your current drivers lic be it USA, UK, OZ etc into a VN one. This will expire when your home lic expires.
You need to get your foreign lic translated, verified etc etc. Not sure how much that will cost. Also you need a heap of passport photos (as usual)
You also need to pass a conversation with a Dr. This will be your medical.
You hand in your forms at the licencing office in D1 and get given a time and date to do your practical.
Then after that you go to do your practical bike test. Figure 8, up and down narrow lanes and your done. Just stay within the white lines and don't put your feet down. I did mine in Binh Chan, Down Cong Hoa and on the left. The lic center supplies the Honda Cub. Leave it in 3rd gear or whatever gear they put it in.
After you pass you collect your completed vn lic in a few days/weeks.Mik,
I have a 5 year tourist visa. My agent says he can only renew my Visa for 90 days for $40usd, he says he cannot do a 6 month visa? Recent regulations?
On the moto driving test what do you mean by "You also need to pass a conversation with a Dr. "? You mean a verbal test? Any written test?
Westernbacon
10-10-10, 16:58
Anyone have a Vietnam car driver's license?
Any written or behind the wheel test?
Is an international driver's license required from your home country?
On the moto driving test what do you mean by "You also need to pass a conversation with a Dr. "? You mean a verbal test? Any written test?This is your "medical" We just sat in his office for 5 min's, wife and him chatting, Basicaly to find out if you are going to die soon I guess. Paid him 20-50k for his test and he signed off on the paper, we went to hand in our paperwork next door and get a date and time set for the practical test.
The vn car lic will automatically be granted from your current drivers lic you are licenced to drive a vehicle.
The motobike test is just to get a bike licence. (since I never had a bike lic)
This will expire when your current lic expires hense its only a translation of your drivers lic. ie if your home lic is valid for 5yrs then your VN one will expire on the same date.
For those who hold lic with no expiry dates I cannot comment. Australian govt only issue lic for 5yrs at a time
Is an international driver's license required from your home country?VN does not recognise any international drivers lic. Having said that there are many people without a lic who still ride around. With cars I cannot comment, Most employ local drivers.
Just get your current home country drivers lic and translate it via forms, medical and practical bike test (its actually funny to watch)
Member #2234
10-11-10, 04:46
Yes I have a FULL Vietnam drivers license
Anyone have a Vietnam car driver's license?
Any written or behind the wheel test?
Is an international driver's license required from your home country?
Westernbacon
10-11-10, 06:34
VN does not recognise any international drivers lic. Having said that there are many people without a lic who still ride around. With cars I cannot comment, Most employ local drivers.
Just get your current home country drivers lic and translate it via forms, medical and practical bike test (its actually funny to watch)I remember few years back I went to the testing office and saw the moto test. It was hilarious, people going in a circle 8 trying to stay in between the 2 white lines. At that time they would not grant me a license because I could not read and write on the written test.
So no need for a written test now?
Westernbacon
10-11-10, 12:27
Anybody know the DNS settings to access Facebook.com here in Vietnam?
I remember few years back I went to the testing office and saw the moto test. It was hilarious, people going in a circle 8 trying to stay in between the 2 white lines. At that time they would not grant me a license because I could not read and write on the written test.
So no need for a written test now?
If you are translating your overseas drivers lic then no need to sit the written exam. ie you already hold a current drivers lic however its not a VN one.
Member #2234 can assist you in getting a full VN lic. Shoot him a PM.
Anybody know the DNS settings to access Facebook.com here in Vietnam?
I used google DNS. This works on viettel, FPT.
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
With VNPT there was no way around getting onto FB
So I changed ISP to FPT.
You can use www.hidemyass.com
hide my ass (without the spaces incase this forum blocks it out for whatever reason)
Also http://ja-jp.facebook.com/
however you may need to keep entering the ja-jp. when you try to navigate some links.
Anybody know the DNS settings to access Facebook.com here in Vietnam?I use ultrasurf, works pretty good.
http://www.ultrareach.com/
If I recall, One member here had issues with Member #2234.
TIV
If you are translating your overseas drivers lic then no need to sit the written exam. ie you already hold a current drivers lic however its not a VN one.
Member #2234 can assist you in getting a full VN lic. Shoot him a PM.
Westernbacon
10-14-10, 16:52
I used google DNS. This works on viettel, FPT.
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4
With VNPT there was no way around getting onto FB
So I changed ISP to FPT.
You can use www.hidemyass.com
hide my ass (without the spaces incase this forum blocks it out for whatever reason)
Also http://ja-jp.facebook.com/
however you may need to keep entering the ja-jp. when you try to navigate some links.Thanks Mik,
You made my little neice one happy web surfer.
Alwayshard45
10-15-10, 06:25
Thanks Mik,
You made my little neice one happy web surfer.
I too am a happy camper. Thanks for the google DNS. I was getting blocked to visit my sports betting sites and those HideMyAss types places made the connection so slow it was unbareable to do live betting.
Westernbacon
10-17-10, 07:04
Anybody have any FS shops to share?
I've been to the FS barbershops in BT district near the airport, selection of girls aint bad, as I usually visit them on Sundays though. Not sure if the service would be better on the other days of the week though as mamason seems to be gone on Sundays. You get one hour in a private room all for 600k out the door. 100k to the house 500k to the girl. At one of the shops I was offered 500k total price probably because it was a slow day for them.
I've read about the one in Phu My Hung for double the price.
Anyone know of any other FS shops around town?
Asswrestler
10-19-10, 06:46
Mik,
I have a 5 year tourist visa. My agent says he can only renew my Visa for 90 days for $40usd, he says he cannot do a 6 month visa? Recent regulations?
On the moto driving test what do you mean by "You also need to pass a conversation with a Dr. "? You mean a verbal test? Any written test?Got my 5-year visa exemption one month ago and paid 20 usd, just went to the imigration office in D1, hcmc and got two forms to fill out. One for me and one for my wife, returned them toghether with my passport and a copy of my marriage cert. Got a ticket and returned one week later, payed 20 usd in vnd at the counter and picked up my passport with the visa stuck inside. Easyest expiriance iv ever had dealing with the gov in Vietnam. No hassle, no bribes, no agents needed.
Got my 5-year visa exemption one month ago and paid 20 usd, just went to the imigration office in D1, hcmc and got two forms to fill out. One for me and one for my wife, returned them toghether with my passport and a copy of my marriage cert. Got a ticket and returned one week later, payed 20 usd in vnd at the counter and picked up my passport with the visa stuck inside. Easyest expiriance iv ever had dealing with the gov in Vietnam. No hassle, no bribes, no agents needed.
Yes, right, this is very easy to get as you say, I know many who have done the same as you. Keep in the mind though that the 'Visa' one needn't get expires after 90 days when you have to leave the country and then re-enter for another 'Visa-less' 90 day period. One guy I know used to go to the office and pay $10 or $15 for a stamp every 90 days rather than leave the country. The 'Visa Exemption' is great for those who come here occasionally or who come and go often.
JD
I'd add another thing here, make sure you have more than 6 months left on your passport. The visa will expire 6 months prior to your passport expiration date.
Well, I'll be visiting again just before Tet. My wife and daughter have been at mom and dads since the end of September and will come back with me in February. So in the meantime I've been making the best of it meeting girls on tagged and getting set up for when I arrive. My time gets limited to a couple of hours in the mornings when I take a "long" walk up to the hot toc or some nice young girl offers me a ride somewhere. I do get an occasional time out with my brother-in-law and this trip he said we are going bia om. Last time he took me to the massage place on le van sy just over the rr tracks. If I have some free time maybe some of us can hook up. I'll be in Q10 most of the time, but have 1 side trip planned to Hue around the second week I'm there for a few days. See you all soon.
[QUOTE=Johndao]Yes, right, this is very easy to get as you say, I know many who have done the same as you. Keep in the mind though that the 'Visa' one needn't get expires after 90 days when you have to leave the country and then re-enter for another 'Visa-less' 90 day period. One guy I know used to go to the office and pay $10 or $15 for a stamp every 90 days rather than leave the country. The 'Visa Exemption' is great for those who come here occasionally or who come and go often.
Westernbacon
10-27-10, 17:16
Hi fellas,
Anybody know of a good motor bike/scooter for tall people? I'm 6ft tall and looking for a comfortable bike to ride here in Saigon.
Riding a Honda spacey 125cc at the moment and my ass keeps sliding forward cause I'm sitting right on the bump where the seat divides :(
Anyone here own a Sym? The Sym Shark 125cc looks really good for tall people. Old vintage bikes would be nice too..
Dragonfly22
10-27-10, 19:52
Baconman, just have them put a smooth seat on your bike instead of a divided one. Very easy and inexpensive to do.
Shadow6491
10-27-10, 22:53
I have paid $7 in the past to have a new custom made vinyl cover for a big bike. Most of the shops have the different foam profiles hanging up and covers to choose from.
Hi fellas,
Anybody know of a good motor bike/scooter for tall people? I'm 6ft tall and looking for a comfortable bike to ride here in Saigon.
Riding a Honda spacey 125cc at the moment and my ass keeps sliding forward cause I'm sitting right on the bump where the seat divides :(
Anyone here own a Sym? The Sym Shark 125cc looks really good for tall people. Old vintage bikes would be nice too..
I'm 6ft tall, 100kg's and I ride a PS150i. Similar to a SH/Dylan/@ and Shark.
Get a bigger "Euro" scoot, No point pissing about with the seats as your legs are still in a cramped position.
I've had a old atilla and no matter where I sat (forward/back) my knees and my lower back would ache. Same with Airblade/Nuovo/Luvias/Mio. These bikes are made for shorter/smaller Asian bodies. The same goes with Vespas, I can ride for a little while before I get sore wrists and lower back.
Westernbacon
10-28-10, 02:03
I'm 6ft tall, 100kg's and I ride a PS150i. Similar to a SH/Dylan/@ and Shark.
Get a bigger "Euro" scoot, No point pissing about with the seats as your legs are still in a cramped position.
I've had a old atilla and no matter where I sat (forward/back) my knees and my lower back would ache. Same with Airblade/Nuovo/Luvias/Mio. These bikes are made for shorter/smaller Asian bodies. The same goes with Vespas, I can ride for a little while before I get sore wrists and lower back.Thanks fellas for the feedback,
Mik, the PS150i looks really nice..I havent seen much of these here riding around as much as the SH/Dylan/@/Sharks. How much is the PS 150i? Any place sell these used around town? I didnt see any at the scooter showrooms for sale.
WELCOME TO FREAKIN VIETNAM!! Ive been scooter shopping, I asked about the Honda PCX bike at a few shops for prices. When I spoke Vietnamese(my 20%) I was quoted around 55million vnd. Then at one shop I purposely didnt speak Vietnamese because of dealing with pushy, irritable salesman. I was quoted almost double the price!
And the SH scooter..wow looks so nice, but for $8300usd not worth it. Amazing so many people ride these, I mean can local doctor's salaries here even afford these?
So the Sym Shark is like $48million vnd. Are Sym bikes any good? I've always had Yamaha and Hondas.
I'd add another thing here, make sure you have more than 6 months left on your passport. The visa will expire 6 months prior to your passport expiration date. .....
This happens nearly everywhere: passport has to have a left validity of 6 months....
Sometime I wonder what can one do in the last 6 months of the passport validity: stay home! lol
I know..there are countries not requiring visa and one can use the passport up to the last day, but immigrations should simply grant the visa up to the expire date, still based on the length allowed.
Be it 1 week or 3 months or whatever ...
Thanks fellas for the feedback,
Mik, the PS150i looks really nice..I havent seen much of these here riding around as much as the SH/Dylan/@/Sharks. How much is the PS 150i? Any place sell these used around town? I didnt see any at the scooter showrooms for sale.
WELCOME TO FREAKIN VIETNAM!! Ive been scooter shopping, I asked about the Honda PCX bike at a few shops for prices. When I spoke Vietnamese(my 20%) I was quoted around 55million vnd. Then at one shop I purposely didnt speak Vietnamese because of dealing with pushy, irritable salesman. I was quoted almost double the price!
And the SH scooter..wow looks so nice, but for $8300usd not worth it. Amazing so many people ride these, I mean can local doctor's salaries here even afford these?
So the Sym Shark is like $48million vnd. Are Sym bikes any good? I've always had Yamaha and Hondas.
Yeah the PS/SH/Dylan/@ are the high end scooters.
They are made in Italy and attract 100% import duty hense the over the top price tags, also seen as a luxury/status symbol. (Bar girls love these)
I don't think you can get any new PS scoots, these scoots had been imported via private companies outside of Honda.
Honda VN is now selling the SH 125/150i but they are expensive as you found out.
There are many "rich" locals now looking to show off their new found wealth as you will have noticed with the amount of expensive scoots running around.
As for the Shark, I think its a clone of a honda with a similar copy engine that the euro scoots have (water cooled GY6)
Try online sales forums and see whats available.
www.raovat.com
http://www.raovat.com/?rv=detail&idrv=364515&idcate=48&tt=Can+ban+xe+Honda+PS+doi+2007
Thats a PS150i selling for USD$4.5k
http://www.bikervietnam.com/bfrm/forumdisplay.php?f=118
Mostly the younger kids bikes (nuovo, airblade, mio, clicks, waves etc)
Alwayshard45
10-28-10, 16:32
Thanks fellas for the feedback,
Mik, the PS150i looks really nice..I havent seen much of these here riding around as much as the SH/Dylan/@/Sharks. How much is the PS 150i? Any place sell these used around town? I didnt see any at the scooter showrooms for sale.
WELCOME TO FREAKIN VIETNAM!! Ive been scooter shopping, I asked about the Honda PCX bike at a few shops for prices. When I spoke Vietnamese(my 20%) I was quoted around 55million vnd. Then at one shop I purposely didnt speak Vietnamese because of dealing with pushy, irritable salesman. I was quoted almost double the price!
And the SH scooter..wow looks so nice, but for $8300usd not worth it. Amazing so many people ride these, I mean can local doctor's salaries here even afford these?
So the Sym Shark is like $48million vnd. Are Sym bikes any good? I've always had Yamaha and Hondas.
For the money I do recommend either a SH or @ (no longer in production). Both are great for the money. Ive had both and I love them! There are many SHs on the streets but they are not all the same. You can get a SH made genuine or a Chinese knock-off. The body will looks the same, but the engine will be Chinese junk. I would never buy the Chinese version, but those are still pretty expensive. Around 75 mil., I believe.
Check out those sites as Mik has pointed out. You can also check www.banmua.vn or even craigslist.org you might get lucky with an expat leaving the country unexpectedly.
If you do decide to buy any bike used, have it checked out by a mechanic, unless you are confident in your own ability. Bikes here could have been wrecked with major damage. A paint job is only 3mil for a big bike like a SH, not much. I know a few shops that can help you in this if you wish to do so, just PM me.
And the SH scooter..wow looks so nice, but for $8300usd not worth it. Amazing so many people ride these, I mean can local doctor's salaries here even afford these?
So the Sym Shark is like $48million vnd. Are Sym bikes any good? I've always had Yamaha and Hondas.
The SH are just bulky imports where the riders sit up high. They have tiny 150cc engines . Even so, they are hit with a huge import tax, used to be 100%, now I think reduced to 90% or so. They hold value very well, so when you sell it you will recover the tax plus much of the purchase price. But really, it's just a scooter that you can buy for the = of $3500 or so in Europe, but which goes for over $8K here in VN.
Beware that it's very easy to get these stolen, especially by a girlfriend or wife so you may never recover that tax when selling! Also, there are some very good Chinese copies of SH as well as all other Japanese bikes. Check them out in the shops in Chinatown in D5 along An Duong Vuong St. They look pretty good! Beware. . . .
The Shark looks good as it is essentially a copy of the SH from the SYM company of Taiwan. But Sym quality does not match Honda's. Still, a very good buy at only 48m VND.
Beware also the fact that SH is safer than PS due to the PS having 'baby' wheels while the SH wheels are much larger. Makes a difference when you hit a bump or a hole in the road. Easier to lose control with the 'baby' wheels.
JD
beware also the fact that sh is safer than ps due to the ps having 'baby' wheels while the sh wheels are much larger. makes a difference when you hit a bump or a hole in the road. easier to lose control with the 'baby' wheels.
jdi have to disagree with you on this one jd, safety comes from the rider being aware of their surroundings, the condition of the bike and how good your suspension is to cope with the weight of the rider, bound, rebound of the shock, tyre pressures etc. i've had the oil changed in my front forks, oil changed regularly, brake pads scraped of any glazing built up, adjusted the preload on the rear shocks. pretty much keeping a close eye on it and doing preventative maintenance when needed.
as for the baby wheels these are actually almost 2 times as wide as the sh. i've ridden mine pretty hard and never lost control when hitting bumps, potholes or even trying motocross riding in the parks/mud/grass and gravel.
3 yrs and i haven't had a accident (touch wood) my wife on the other hand has had about 6.
i've managed to scrape the left side when leaning over doing a u turn at the end of truong son where the airport is. i've also banged into numerous potholes, bumps that i hadn't seen, been lifted up off the seat and had no sign of unstability. if anything these bigger scoots are harder to turn/lean/change direction compared to smaller scoots (airblade, nuovo, mio, fino, luvias, vespas,cubs etc) you try and wobble the handlebars on a scooter mentioned above and compare it to a ps/sh and you will soon workout any stability issues. the ps wants to sit upright and go straight.
if you want to see baby wheels take a look at vespas and atillas yet these are very stable at slow speeds.
Westernbacon
11-03-10, 11:22
Thanks for all your comments fellas.
Well finally bought myself a new scooter. Picked up a Sym Shark 125cc out the door price was 49 million. Had to wait 3 days for the license plate. It is so different compared to my Nouvo or Spacey. Handling is decent but not as nimble as I would like it. Positive driving characteristics are:
1. Higher seating position. (I'm 6ft tall and it's a nice change to be able to see over the bike in front of you)
2. Big 16" wheels(able to go up and over bumps/curbs with ease)
**Anyone know of any cool scooter sticker shops around town? I'm looking for like BMW icons, big block checkered stickers, anything loud to distinguish by bike from others! Hehe
Member #2234
11-03-10, 20:18
Mic and your motocrossing on you PS hahaha! You never change bro.
hahaha! Remember the PS does not belong to YOU! It belongs to your DOG! Kakakaka!
Call me when you get back to Sai Gon m8
PS I really need to stay out of this topic, you've seen my SH170i and know how carried away I get hahaha! So don't get me started hahaha!
Mic and your motocrossing on you PS hahaha! You never change bro.
Hahaha! Remember the PS does not belong to YOU! It belongs to your DOG! Kakakaka!
Call me when you get back to Sai Gon m8
PS I really need to stay out of this topic, you've seen my SH170i and know how carried away I get hahaha! So don't get me started hahaha!hehehe, I was wondering how long it would be before you popped in!
Yeah yours is one mad bike
My PS belongs to me (my dogs shoulders too wide though he still tries and nearly tips the bike over!), The Vespa is my dogs and the Luvias is the miss's. Now. Just waiting to see how many crash's she's had in the time I was away.
Came across quite unexpectedly, a new (?) hotspot for SW (with a few moto girls thrown into the mix) while out riding on a lazy Sunday early afternoon:
Tran Quoc Hoan, Q Tan Binh
between Phan Thuc Duyet and the Cong Hoa / Hoang Van Thu circle.
From Q1, head towards the airport taking Nguyen Van Troi. When you get to the fork in the road by the sports complex / army base, you want to take the left fork (the right fork is Phan Dinh Giot and leads to the airport). At the next intersection make a left onto Tran Quoc Hoan, a 1-way street that connects with Cong Hoa. From this point until the Cong Hoa circus (a stretch of about 100 m), there were at least 6-7 girls standing on the right side of the road by the bus stop, most with hat and face masks on, ready to ride. Totally unexpected busy market for SW at about 1 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Moto pimps are probably stationed nearby on the lookout. A few motogirls thrown in the mix. Busy traffic, could be either a good or bad thing.
Had to be somewhere, so did not partake. Perhaps someone would like to confirm this situation on a weekday afternoon? If not will likely revisit this weekend.
Alwayshard45
11-08-10, 15:48
From Q1, head towards the airport taking Nguyen Van Troi. When you get to the fork in the road by the sports complex / army base, you want to take the left fork (the right fork is Phan Dinh Giot and leads to the airport). At the next intersection make a left onto Tran Quoc Hoan, a 1-way street that connects with Cong Hoa. From this point until the Cong Hoa circus (a stretch of about 100 m), there were at least 6-7 girls standing on the right side of the road by the bus stop, most with hat and face masks on, ready to ride. Totally unexpected busy market for SW at about 1 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Moto pimps are probably stationed nearby on the lookout. A few motogirls thrown in the mix. Busy traffic, could be either a good or bad thing.
Had to be somewhere, so did not parDo you mean Nam Khi Khoi Nghia?
This area is not ''new''. Standard service and prices, based on your desires and negotions. Ranges from 200-500 ST. I'm not a big fan of this area because I never really found anything I liked.
Came across quite unexpectedly, a new (?) hotspot for SW (with a few moto girls thrown into the mix) while out riding on a lazy Sunday early afternoon:
Tran Quoc Hoan, Q Tan Binh
between Phan Thuc Duyet and the Cong Hoa / Hoang Van Thu circle.
I ride there almost on a daily basis at all different times of the day and night (as I live near by)
These girls you noticed are most likely not moto girls, These are located between the sporting ground and the Big C supermarket.
There are plenty of girls (and guys) sitting on their motobikes waiting for their darlings to come and give them a hug. This is the park we are talking about. No SW's there, just couples meeting up. Go for a ride along Cong Hoa at night time and report back on the quality and quantity of SW's.
Came across quite unexpectedly, a new (?) hotspot for SW (with a few moto girls thrown into the mix) while out riding on a lazy Sunday early afternoon:
Tran Quoc Hoan, Q Tan Binh
between Phan Thuc Duyet and the Cong Hoa / Hoang Van Thu circle.
From Q1, head towards the airport taking Nguyen Van Troi. When you get to the fork in the road by the sports complex / army base, you want to take the left fork (the right fork is Phan Dinh Giot and leads to the airport). At the next intersection make a left onto Tran Quoc Hoan, a 1-way street that connects with Cong Hoa. From this point until the Cong Hoa circus (a stretch of about 100 m), there were at least 6-7 girls standing on the right side of the road by the bus stop, most with hat and face masks on, ready to ride. Totally unexpected busy market for SW at about 1 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Moto pimps are probably stationed nearby on the lookout. A few motogirls thrown in the mix. Busy traffic, could be either a good or bad thing.
Had to be somewhere, so did not partake. Perhaps someone would like to confirm this situation on a weekday afternoon? If not will likely revisit this weekend.Yes, I saw the same thing today at approximately 1:30 PM (Monday). I too was very surprised at this development as I checked out a few of the girls and they were all young and slim. And so many of them.
Things change.
JD
Do you mean Nam Khi Khoi Nghia?
This area is not ''new''. Standard service and prices, based on your desires and negotions. Ranges from 200-500 ST. I'm not a big fan of this area because I never really found anything I liked.No, not NKKN. Read my directions carefully. Trust me, it is a new area.
I ride there almost on a daily basis at all different times of the day and night (as I live near by)
These girls you noticed are most likely not moto girls, These are located between the sporting ground and the Big C supermarket.
There are plenty of girls (and guys) sitting on their motobikes waiting for their darlings to come and give them a hug. This is the park we are talking about. No SW's there, just couples meeting up. Go for a ride along Cong Hoa at night time and report back on the quality and quantity of SW's.As I said, read my directions carefully. I do NOT mean the park. The SWs were standing in a row, ready for inspection and dressed to go at short notice, on the opposite side of Tran Quoc Hoan from the park. I mentioned motogirls because I did see 1 or 2 (no helmets on) in the midst of 'mobile negotiations'.
Cong Hoa at night is old news. Why don't you go and report back on the 'quality and quantity of SW's'?
My objective is to explore new frontiers for pussy in the chaos called Saigon, to boldly go where no others have been before.
Cong Hoa at night is old news. Why don't you go and report back on the 'quality and quantity of SW's'? ;)
My objective is to explore new frontiers for pussy in the chaos called Saigon, to boldly go where no others have been before.There's no need for me to go pick up SW's when I can visit the barber shops and pick from a lineup a nice clean looking girl, shower in a nice safe aircon room and bang away to my hearts content whilst sipping on a nice cold bevy.
Sure it costs a little more than a SW and isn't such a adrenaline rush worrying about the ST hotel, if there will be someone banging on the door yelling the cops are about to arrive or the girl turning out to be a starfish, but different strokes.
Anyway its good to see someone's out there looking for new places, I used to do the same thing and gave up reporting the locations.
I'm in VT atm and just been roaming around new areas.
There's no need for me to go pick up SW's when I can visit the barber shops and pick from a lineup a nice clean looking girl, shower in a nice safe aircon room and bang away to my hearts content whilst sipping on a nice cold bevy...Yes, that's where I was headed when I passed the 'new SW hotspot'. :D
I like to throw in an SW or 3 to the mix though... makes for interesting times... As for someone banging on the door yelling about a police check - never happened to me before. Besides, I'm sure they won't target the innocent and kind-hearted foreigner who speaks little-to-no Vietnamese who just happened to offer a ride to a poor hitchhiker girl, both of whom mutually consented to payment in kind. ;)
Yes, that's where I was headed when I passed the 'new SW hotspot'. :DTheres a new one opened up. Have you been there?
Theres a new one opened up. Have you been there?If you mean 'new' as in 'newly renovated' from an existing old one, yes. If you mean 'completely new' then no. But then again, I visit 'new' ones all the time. Hard to keep track of what's 'new' anymore... :D
Alwayshard45
11-10-10, 12:17
The current exchange rate on the black market (ie jewelry stores) is $1 = 20350VND - 20500 VND.This was pulled from the Photo Gallery. What are you guys finding for rates on the USD? The offical State Bank of Vietnam quotes exchange rates 18,932. But other banks around town are quoting between 19,200-19,500vnd per dollar. I went and exchanged money at the gold shop today and received 20,900, but she would only buy $500, no more.
What are you guys getting and where?
At this gold shop.
The best place to find the most advantageous foreign exchange rates are in the jewelry stores that specialize in 24 carat GOLD. These stores mostly are money exchangers although they also sell and buy gold jewelry, coins and bars. I have found that the best FX place in Saigon is right across the street from the middle of the west side of the Ben Thanh Market, and on the north-east corner of the street heading west. "HA TAM" @ 2 Nguyen An Ninh. Look for local folks and a busy place.
Margaret Brown
01-16-11, 05:20
When trying to draw money in foreign countries one of the risks is always about the stealing of information by "skimming" the magnetic strip. One has to be careful.
The rate at which I get debited for drawing money is VND 19, 250=1 USD when I use a Bank's ATM and my American Visa debit card. That seems to the the median Forex bank to bank rate. To avoid skimming use only an ATM inside a Bank
Kattar Puneri
01-16-11, 05:51
When trying to draw money in foreign countries one of the risks is always about the stealing of information by "skimming" the magnetic strip. One has to be careful.The rate at which I get debited for drawing money is VND 19, 250=1 USD when I use a Bank's ATM and my American Visa debit card. That seems to the the median Forex bank to bank rate. To avoid skimming use only an ATM inside a Bank.
The rate at which I get debited for drawing money is VND 19, 250=1 USD when I use a Bank's ATM and my American Visa debit card. That seems to the the median Forex bank to bank rate. To avoid skimming use only an ATM inside a Bank.It will take a while before the "skimmng" scam will catch on here, Bank cards and Credit Cards along with the use of ATM's are still a new thing here, Unlike TLD where skimming can be rampant.
Before you stick ya card into the ATM check the machine over, Just give a tug on the card slot overhang along with the area around where the card enters the ATM, If its firmly in place then you should be ok, Also check if theres a camera placed where they can focus in on the keypad.
Remember to cover your hand while entering your PIN etc etc, Same rules apply here for ATM use as back home, Numerous times you can see people using the ATM and making slow deliberate keypress's when entering their PIN's.
This is still a major cash country. You want to buy a motorbike you pay cash, I tried to use my CC but the dealer looked at me like I was from Mars.
I've been stuck behind people who can't workout how to use the magnetic strip on the card to open the door to the ATM booth and also to press the small round button to unlock the door to get out, not to mention people trying to jam their cards in backwards, upside down etc etc.
I recall back in Oz 1 or 2yrs back there was a big skimmng scam with the use of EFTPOS machines at McDonalds pretty much Australia wide.
Came across quite unexpectedly, a new (?) hotspot for SW (with a few moto girls thrown into the mix) while out riding on a lazy Sunday early afternoon:
Tran Quoc Hoan, Q Tan Binh.
Between Phan Thuc Duyet and the Cong Hoa / Hoang Van Thu circle.
From Q1, head towards the airport taking Nguyen Van Troi. When you get to the fork in the road by the sports complex / army base, you want to take the left fork (the right fork is Phan Dinh Giot and leads to the airport). At the next intersection make a left onto Tran Quoc Hoan, a 1-way street that connects with Cong Hoa. From this point until the Cong Hoa circus (a stretch of about 100 m) , there were at least 6-7 girls standing on the right side of the road by the bus stop, most with hat and face masks on, ready to ride. Totally unexpected busy market for SW at about 1 pm on a Sunday afternoon. Moto pimps are probably stationed nearby on the lookout. A few motogirls thrown in the mix. Busy traffic, could be either a good or bad thing.
Had to be somewhere, so did not partake. Perhaps someone would like to confirm this situation on a weekday afternoon? If not will likely revisit this weekend. Anybody have a report on this? I've gone by that area a few times now and I didn't see the hotspot.
BTW I ride through Nguyen Chi Thanh, D5 regularly and I think the quality is lower these days. Haven't bothered with anything for there for a while.
Anybody have a report on this? I've gone by that area a few times now and I didn't see the hotspot.That's because its NOT a hotspot.
I go by there daily, sometimes several times a day and there are only people waiting to get picked up by the bus, people selling items etc. There are several large companies nearby that may account for the people, This area is always busy.
Anybody have a report on this? I've gone by that area a few times now and I didn't see the hotspot.
BTW I ride through Nguyen Chi Thanh, D5 regularly and I think the quality is lower these days. Haven't bothered with anything for there for a while. This area was a hot spot (very) but only for a short time, about 2 months ago or so. Nothing there now. I've no idea why, although I can make a guess.
Totally agree about Ng Chi Thanh, haven't pulled but one from there in the last year or so. The goal is to drive everything inside and to fixed locations where fees can be be readily collected and records kept. Opposite that, most of the action is simply done by DTDD. I'd guess that is 80% of the action nowadays.
JD
most of the action is simply done by DTDD. I'd guess that is 80% of the action nowadays.
JDDTDD? What does it mean?
Alwayshard45
01-19-11, 17:14
DTDD? What does it mean?DTDD is the Vietnamese abbreviations for cellphones. DTDD = Dien thoai di dong, of course it's missing the stress marks, but thats what it stands for.
Vietnam has devalued its currency for the third time in a year. The dong fell 9. 3 percent Friday, bringing the.
Official exchange rate to 20, 693 from 18, 932 per U. S dollar.
Can somebody post Todays 'gold shop' rate.
What this means. Use gold shop to exchange your money. As a tourist you were being fleeced. More devaluations are on the way as sure as the sun rises in the morning.
Based on pussy prices, P2P action, beer at bar prices, and other essentials I'd say they have another 20% to go, easy. High spending Tourists with money has tanked, restaurants are empty. I'd say their offensive Visa fee ($75-$125) is why 80% of tourists say no to Vietnam and head to Thailand or Cambo instead.
Will this devaluation lead to a J curve. No. It is a S bend like in toilet. Vn action is just too difficult, so I am already booked for LOS in a few months. I go for a holiday, not bargaining sessions I cannot win.
The corruption taxes and payoffs. This is not a preferred mongering destination.
This was pulled from the Photo Gallery. What are you guys finding for rates on the USD? The offical State Bank of Vietnam quotes exchange rates 18, 932. But other banks around town are quoting between 19, 200-19, 500vnd per dollar. I went and exchanged money at the gold shop today and received 20, 900, but she would only buy $500, no more.
What are you guys getting and where?Well, there was a 9% devaluation the next day, and the price she offered was smack on the money. Meaning the devaluation secret had 'leaked' and corrupt officials were lining their pockets. Don't have to be Einstein to figure which direction next.
Vietnam has devalued its currency for the third time in a year. The dong fell 9. 3 percent Friday, bringing the.
Official exchange rate to 20, 693 from 18, 932 per U. S dollar.
Can somebody post Todays 'gold shop' rate.
What this means. Use gold shop to exchange your money. As a tourist you were being fleeced. More devaluations are on the way as sure as the sun rises in the morning.
Based on pussy prices, P2P action, beer at bar prices, and other essentials I'd say they have another 20% to go, easy. High spending Tourists with money has tanked, restaurants are empty. I'd say their offensive Visa fee ($75-$125) is why 80% of tourists say no to Vietnam and head to Thailand or Cambo instead.
Will this devaluation lead to a J curve. No. It is a S bend like in toilet. Vn action is just too difficult, so I am already booked for LOS in a few months. I go for a holiday, not bargaining sessions I cannot win.
The corruption taxes and payoffs. This is not a preferred mongering destination. The devaluation happened mainly in the banks to reduce the gap to the black market rate. My Gold Shop paid: Thursday 21350 and yesterday 21450. Gold was almost not effected, which means it dropped with the VND. We have to see the near future development.
Today the USD rate in HCMC is 21630.
One of the better places to change in a convenient location is the foreign exchange shop on 90 Mac Thi Buoi (off Dong Khoi). They have the current rates published on a paper visible from outside and always pay slightly more than the other shops in this area.
Sometimes (I have compared a lot over months) it may be possible to get 10 Dong more somewhere remote, but that may also be a result of fluctuation and is certainly not worth the effort for a small amount.
What I do know is that the rates in HCMC are often substantially higher than in Hanoi.
Today the USD rate in HCMC is 21630. Excellent!
Thats a big gap. Right after S-bend day. Looks like arbitrage will keep on bleeding North Vn'ers.
Vietnamese go to Cambodia and using ATM card, specially from Techcombank, to withdraw US$2, 000 (the max allowed every transaction) for multiple transactions. Then, they sell US$ for vn dong in Cambodia. The different rate of what they get is more than in vn.
The Russian, Japanese Koreans (now visa fee free) are all on package tours, they stay in mostly foreign owned hotels, have meal vouchers, herded into mates 'shops' and even get vn currency at better rates. And don't spend their money widely. As a group, they can certainly bleed the central bank. Tourist numbers may be only slightly down. But they are not contributing as much as many imagine. Chinese numbers are up, but I bet they are wised up too.
Oh well, another S-bend deval after their next national holiday is on the cards.
Looks like arbitrage will keep on bleeding North Vn'ers.Well, the north wanted the south so badly 35 years back. Now they have to make do with it. By the way, the rate now is over 22000.
Love Asian Girl
03-16-11, 22:30
May be one of you guys had a similar problem in the past and have it still now.
In term of continuing the good relations to waiting sweeties in Vietnam, I had the problem of sending sporadically some small amounts of money (e. G. 100 to 300 Euro).
If you need some ideas how to do this with no fees involved, please PM me.
LAG
May be one of you guys had a similar problem in the past and have it still now.
In term of continuing the good relations to waiting sweeties in Vietnam, I had the problem of sending sporadically some small amounts of money (e. G. 100 to 300 Euro).
LAGYes, I agree that sending money to "waiting" sweeties is a problem. Luckily I have not had this problem.
JD
Here's some hints for you.
1] Try the Hilton, Hyat or Sheraton. These are 5 star and are definately girl friendly, You just need to pay a joiners fee. Just make sure there are other guests around when you do your walk of shame otherwise the staff will try to up the price as theres no witnesses.
3] Not sure, depends on what your looking for.
4] Incall to your hotel room works best. Go and ask the pretty receptionist what time she finnish's work and if she wants to have a private english lesson back in your room. She will be a little "hard to get" at first but thats all part of the game they like to play. Also ask if she has any friends that want to join in your "class"
OK, this is wayyy off topic, but this is the only VN forum I'm subscribed to, so maybe someone knows the name of the restaurant I'm looking for.
About 6 years ago was taken to a very popular (mostly with locals) Vietnamese restaurant in HCMC set in a colonial era villa with outdoor garden seating, and those mist-sprayers they use as outdoor air-conditioning. Cuisine was local, with elaborate spring rolls, etc. Had to make reservations, as there was not an empty seat during lunch.
I know the description may be a little generic given the nature of HCMC, but strangely haven't been able to find a place that matches it from searching a few of the obvious websites.
Feel free to PM me if you think of a place that sounds like the one I'm thinking of, since probably no one else will care.
One of the better places to change in a convenient location is the foreign exchange shop on 90 Mac Thi Buoi (off Dong Khoi). They have the current rates published on a paper visible from outside and always pay slightly more than the other shops in this area.I go to the shop next door. 86. Never had any problems with this shop, Has video cameras facing the counter (though I can't say if these are actually in use or for show). The bike attendant knows me, wife, my dog and my bikes. He spins them around so I can leave easier.
I can use their money counters for large transactions, can't say I can compare the rate with 90 or other shops but this is my regular shop. The difference will be a few thousand dong and honestly I can't be assed riding all over town just to get / save a few thousand dong. My time is more valuable than that.
If I'm going to be doing a major transaction then I may check the prices but 99% of the time I'll go to them.
There is a Swiss / High end watch repairer / seller located along the side wall. The Rolex's and Panerai's are very tempting. I make it a point to have handed over my $ before browsing his cabinet. Just in case.
OK, this is wayyy off topic, but this is the only VN forum I'm subscribed to, so maybe someone knows the name of the restaurant I'm looking for.
About 6 years ago was taken to a very popular (mostly with locals) Vietnamese restaurant in HCMC set in a colonial era villa with outdoor garden seating, and those mist-sprayers they use as outdoor air-conditioning. Cuisine was local, with elaborate spring rolls, etc. Had to make reservations, as there was not an empty seat during lunch.
I know the description may be a little generic given the nature of HCMC, but strangely haven't been able to find a place that matches it from searching a few of the obvious websites.
Feel free to PM me if you think of a place that sounds like the one I'm thinking of, since probably no one else will care. Maybe it's Quan An Ngon. It's on Pasteur St, d1 now. It used to be on NKKN.
I go to the shop next door. 86. Never had any problems with this shop, Has video cameras facing the counter (though I can't say if these are actually in use or for show). The bike attendant knows me, wife, my dog and my bikes. He spins them around so I can leave easier.
I can use their money counters for large transactions, can't say I can compare the rate with 90 or other shops but this is my regular shop. The difference will be a few thousand dong and honestly I can't be assed riding all over town just to get / save a few thousand dong. My time is more valuable than that.
If I'm going to be doing a major transaction then I may check the prices but 99% of the time I'll go to them.
There is a Swiss / High end watch repairer / seller located along the side wall. The Rolex's and Panerai's are very tempting. I make it a point to have handed over my $ before browsing his cabinet. Just in case. Is this shop still selling US Dollars?
Is this shop still selling US Dollars?They were a week ago, it seems business as usual, just not as advertised in HCMC, whereas in Hanoi everything is halted and only old known customers get served. Nobody really knows what is going to come.
Banks also have new rules. I as a non resident could pay any amount VND into Vietinbank and transfer them to my HSBC account. Not anymore.
Is this shop still selling US Dollars?It's been over a month since I last went there and I mostly exchange AUD$. I havn't changed USD$ for a long time.
You could try and give them a call. Their number is 08. 38297887, 38295793 and 0916. 200. 900
I know this is a sex forum but I've seen that various topics are discussed in this thread so I need to ask the saigon veterans for help re: NBA basketball games. Where the hell can I watch them in ho chi minh?
Basically, the playoffs are about a week away and I am going to go INSANE if I can't find a place that shows the games. I'm in sihanoukville Cambodia right now and won't be in vietnam for another week so I'm unable to scout out ho chi minh and see which places provide what I need. Preferrebly a place that's open 24 hrs or at the very least EARLY in the morning because there is roughly a 12 hour difference between here and back in the states. Hell, even if you could give me info about whether or not the games are replayed later on during the day would make me eternally grateful.
I'm just a pro basketball fanatic and would hate to miss out on all the fun. Here in Cambodia it's british dudes so as you can imagine, soccer reigns supreme. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
The BOSTON SPORTS BAR, located at 28/4 Bui Vien Street in the "backpacker" area, known by tourists as "Pham Ngu Lao" for the street that makes the area's northern border. In Vietnam when street addresses are expressed as a fraction, so to speak, that means the location is in an alley ("hem" in Vietnamese). In this case the alley is a wide one, and goes between Pham Ngu Lao St. And Bui Vien St, which runs parallel and one block south.
The Boston Sports Bar is always open and airs sports from the USA regularly. Their phone number is (08) 66566338 or (08) 66566328. <bostonpizzavn@gmail.com
I quit cold turkey from watching or even following pro and college sports since living in Vn. Except I did watch the SF Giants once during their amazing season last year, I caught the last world series game. Sweet!
"Preferably a place that's open 24 hrs or at the very least EARLY in the morning because there is roughly a 12 hour difference between here and back in the states. Hell, even if you could give me info about whether or not the games are replayed later on during the day would make me eternally grateful.
I'm just a pro basketball fanatic and would hate to miss out on all the fun."
The Boston Sports Bar is always open and airs sports from the USA regularly. Their phone number is (08) 66566338 or (08) 66566328. <bostonpizzavn@gmail.comThank you SO much. I've a feeling you just made my future stay a WHOLE lot more comfortable.
Anyone you need me to kill. Just ask.
I know this is a sex forum but I've seen that various topics are discussed in this thread so I need to ask the saigon veterans for help re: NBA basketball games. Where the hell can I watch them in ho chi minh?You can go here www.myp2pforum.eu/ Download a small program and stream live almost any sport and the world. It's free and if you have a decent connection should work great. It saved my life during college football season!
You can go here.
www.myp2pforum.eu/
Download a small program and stream live almost any sport and the world. It's free and if you have a decent connection should work great. It saved my life during college football season! going to give this a shot. The boston sports bar had the games via some arabian website, but it was laggy and I couldn't enjoy the games.
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/hanoi-busts-sex-corporation-20-caught-in-bed-1.28485
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/disguised-karaoke-and-sex-shops-flourish-1.28994
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/cafe-s-new-treat-pleasures-of-the-flesh-1.28829
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/shemales-offer-sex-to-steal-from-hcmc-foreigners-1.28413
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/features/massage-service-goes-online-for-real-business-1.28241
http://www.tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/features/girls-strip-naked-on-webcams-for-monthly-cash-1.26793
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/ho-chi-minh-city-police-bust-restaurant-sex-ring-1.23761
http://www.tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/vietnam-in-prostitution-crackdown-1.31207
For the old timers here is this just another crackdown for show?
http://www.tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/vietnam-in-prostitution-crackdown-1.31207
For the old timers here is this just another crackdown for show? A $30 million campaign? Five years? Reduce by 40 percent? Limited to communes and towns? Maybe they should start by paying for kids to go to school, or something like that.
JD
Maybe they should start by paying for kids to go to school, or something like that.
JDWhat and actually educate the masses. Hmmm what is this crazy idea you speak of? School LOL.
Another heads up :-
http://www.tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/society/thieves-stealing-from-*****mongers-arrested-1.31541
Watch your valuables guys!
Does anyone know how it works in Fortuna Hotel for bringing a girl to your room from the Boss downstairs? Do some of the girls not go to the rooms? Current rate for ST and overnight?
Thanks much!
Does anyone know how it works in Fortuna Hotel for bringing a girl to your room from the Boss downstairs? Do some of the girls not go to the rooms? Current rate for ST and overnight?
Thanks much! You will find this information if you search the Hanoi thread.
Why do we need another useless thread? This thread has been around nearly a year, has 3 pages of worthless chatter and 1 picture. Not exactly a photo galley.
Why do we need another useless thread? This thread has been around nearly a year, has 3 pages of worthless chatter and 1 picture. Not exactly a photo galley.If you see who has started this thread the question is who should be entitled to start a thread.
I am not new to ISG, but have just created this new account. I am looking for some advice and feedback on my plan to visit Vietnam. I am able to take about 4 weeks off in Sept / Oct and am looking for the best suggestion on a low cost trip to Asia. I have been to Hong Kong, but no where else in Asia before. I believe I have settled on Vietnam, as I really want to visit the country to experience the culture, people food and women.
I'the like to keep things really cheap, but at the same time am now 50 years old and used to having a clean safe room, eat decent local (non touristy) food. I have read the Board extensively – my usual plan to is to meeting someone local that I think I can trust (taxi driver, people from a local pub, waiters etc) an get them to help me find out about the scene.
If you have 4 weeks to spend in Vietnam, were on a budget and wanted to see some of the provinces as well as Hanoi and Saigon, where would you go? I don't know any Vietnamese but am going to begin taking a course so at least I can say a few things. If you think Vietnam should not be my country of destiniation, I'd like to understand any alternatives.
Thanks in advance for any advice, I will report back after my trip.
I am not new to ISG, but have just created this new account. I am looking for some advice and feedback on my plan to visit Vietnam. I am able to take about 4 weeks off in Sept / Oct and am looking for the best suggestion on a low cost trip to Asia. I have been to Hong Kong, but no where else in Asia before. I believe I have settled on Vietnam, as I really want to visit the country to experience the culture, people food and women.
I'the like to keep things really cheap, but at the same time am now 50 years old and used to having a clean safe room, eat decent local (non touristy) food. I have read the Board extensively – my usual plan to is to meeting someone local that I think I can trust (taxi driver, people from a local pub, waiters etc) an get them to help me find out about the scene.
If you have 4 weeks to spend in Vietnam, were on a budget and wanted to see some of the provinces as well as Hanoi and Saigon, where would you go? I don't know any Vietnamese but am going to begin taking a course so at least I can say a few things. If you think Vietnam should not be my country of destiniation, I'd like to understand any alternatives.
Thanks in advance for any advice, I will report back after my trip. I'd rebook your ticket and go to Thailand. Way more friendlier women, hotels etc. You will have no problem with women over there, here you run the risk of crap service, scams, thefts etc
I'd rebook your ticket and go to Thailand. Way more friendlier women, hotels etc. You will have no problem with women over there, here you run the risk of crap service, scams, thefts etcI would say stick with your trip to Vietnam. Unless you plan on pooning everyday, and want better service with the girls.
But you want to experience the culture, people, food, on a budget and you are 50+ of age. I would think vietnam would be better for this your trip and by reading the posts here some still have great experiences with the girls so you will get everything that you have listed. Haven't been back to vietnam for about 10 years now I'll be there in about 2 weeks but been to Thailand 8 months ago, and all I enjoyed there are the women pretty much and the beach. Maybe just fly to BKK the ticket isn't that expensive for a round trip.
i would say stick with your trip to vietnam. unless you plan on pooning everyday, and want better service with the girls.
but you want to experience the culture, people, food, on a budget and you are 50+ of age. i would think vietnam would be better for this your trip and by reading the posts here some still have great experiences with the girls so you will get everything that you have listed. haven't been back to vietnam for about 10 years now i'll be there in about 2 weeks but been to thailand 8 months ago, and all i enjoyed there are the women pretty much and the beach. maybe just fly to bkk the ticket isn't that expensive for a round trip. thanks for the replies. i did more research on thailand an long the suggestion, and one thing i don't like is the 'in your face' aspect of thailand as well as the sheer number of mongers there. i also ike the thrill of the hunt.
i am just not sure of the other areas i should target in my stay in vietnam. i have rtff extensively. i know many viets here in california so i am going to ask them for some help and see if they can hook me up with some of thier relatives to help out. might still try to scam me, but i usually have a pretty good sense for such.
i just want to experience the viet women, food, people and culture. but at a decent price. thanks agian for the help.
Guys,
Anyone here has a contact for car or taxi that I can use while I'm there. Need to go see a customer and then to cu chi tunnels for some tourist stuff.
Thanks in advance
Guys,
Anyone here has a contact for car or taxi that I can use while I'm there. Need to go see a customer and then to cu chi tunnels for some tourist stuff.
Thanks in advanceSome of the taxi drivers will do a private deal and there are adverts in the local Vietnam News newspaper in Saigon.
Hi everybody,
I am new on here, this is my first post and I figured the general info section was where to post this, sorry if I got it wrong. I just had some q's that I was hoping you guys can answer. I have read lots on here in the past couple days since arriving in hcmc, I plan to stay in town here for a few days and get some mongering done before I start my regular tourism.
I am new to mongering in vietnam, but I've been to Thailand lots. Over there, as I'm sure many of you know, the whole scene is much more in your face and there are mongers everywhere to drink with and help out with info. Here it seems to be more hidden and frowned upon. From what I have read on here there is quite a big variation in prices depending on what you want and where you get it. Is there somewhere on the site that has a general menu / info list?
I read on here lots about hot toc, I thought it was the name of a place but now I realize it means hair cut place. There seems to be many sexy ladies at these places, do they fuck or do HJ or what? I saw one by my hotel, but being a bald guy I didn't want to walk in to a haircut place that actually cuts hair. I read that these places are around 100. 000 plus 100. 000 tip but still not sure if the tip is for sextra service or what.
Also by my hotel are some bars with nice looking girls who say come in for a drink. Are these like those hostess places in japan where the drink costs like 100 USD and all they do is talk to you for 10 minutes?
I would appreciate any info on any of this from anybody. And I apologize in advance for asking, I know it's probably all on this site already, I know I should have looked into it before I came here. Also if anybody can recommend any good places in town, I prefer a good fuck but will take a good BJ in a pinch. I saw those internet escort ads where the girls are 250 USD per hour, I can't afford that and would like to stick to cheaper places. I would really like get out there, I don't know anybody in town. If anybody on here knows some good places and wouldn't mind me tagging along, I would be really grateful.
Cheers guys and happy mongering
Hey mates:
I read some previous postings and looks as if I can fly in from Bangkok. Not a bad option for sure
However, I was wondering what other options are out there. I was hoping to fly from a place east of Vietnam that could also serve me as a hub to fly to AC.
Mada coming up but not too early to start planning the next trip!
Cheers.
Also by my hotel are some bars with nice looking girls who say come in for a drink. Are these like those hostess places in japan where the drink costs like 100 USD and all they do is talk to you for 10 minutes?No, that kind of pricing is not the norm here. Go in, and ask up front how much a drink costs. Your drink should be around 50 K VND,"lady drink" should be around 60 K VND. All in all, less than 6 USD for both drinks. Hope you enjoy it here. What hotel are you at?
Hey mates:
I read some previous postings and looks as if I can fly in from Bangkok. Not a bad option for sure
However, I was wondering what other options are out there. I was hoping to fly from a place east of Vietnam that could also serve me as a hub to fly to AC.
Mada coming up but not too early to start planning the next trip!
Cheers.Http://matrix.itasoftware.com/
Do your search there. HKG seems to be the place but overpriced compared to BKK.
IMHO best and cheapest option is airasia. Com from BKK. You can also fly to AC from BKK on cebupacificair. Com and have much better time in BKK than HKG.
I usually go to Benny's at 110 Dien Bien Phu in Binh Thanh.Hi D Cups, what is the cross street for Benny's? Seems DBP is a pretty long street. Also, does the BBBJ include CIM? Thanks.
Hi D Cups, what is the cross street for Benny's? Seems DBP is a pretty long street. Also, does the BBBJ include CIM? Thanks.The moment you crossed over the bridge of DBP street is Binh Thanh District, it's about 100 yards on your right hand side. Benny's and My Tien is couple hundred feet next to each other, I paid 90K at Benny and 100k at My Tien last December, the tip it about 100k each for my first time, I did tip more the next few times. Yes BBBICIM.
Have fun and play safe.
Have fun and play safe.THANKS! When you say "play safe", do you mean protection, or is there something about the neighborhood one needs to be concerned about? Thanks.
Member #1453
09-09-11, 15:45
Hello, :
Here is a question for the experts. I have seen mentions often that prices are lower and less high pressure mongering in provincial towns away from HCMC or Hanoi. I would love for someone to give some names for these towns and hotels in there so I can check out on my next trip. Thanks in advance.
Hello,
I am not sure if this is the forum for it but I need an extension on my Vietnam visa. I am from the US. Any information will be welcome. Thanks in advance.
Todd
Hello, :
Here is a question for the experts. I have seen mentions often that prices are lower and less high pressure mongering in provincial towns away from HCMC or Hanoi. I would love for someone to give some names for these towns and hotels in there so I can check out on my next trip. Thanks in advance.There is a thread for "Other Areas" and I recall it had discussion of places like Nha Trang, Vung Tau and Can Tho.
Member #1453
09-17-11, 00:45
There is a thread for "Other Areas" and I recall it had discussion of places like Nha Trang, Vung Tau and Can Tho.Nha Trang and Vung Tau are already well known and have a established market, similar to HCMC. Can Tho I would like to know more about. Are there any other locations? Can John Dao provide some info please?
Richard Dawkins
09-20-11, 07:45
Hello, :
Here is a question for the experts. I have seen mentions often that prices are lower and less high pressure mongering in provincial towns away from HCMC or Hanoi. I would love for someone to give some names for these towns and hotels in there so I can check out on my next trip. Thanks in advance.Check out my reports of an area called Ha Tinh in "Other Areas" I think that would fit your description of less well visited places. Only an hour and a half from Vinh as well, so fairly easy to get to.
Easy Rider 2
12-10-11, 09:32
Is it possible to go from Phnom Penh by bus / train / car to the border of Vietnam and get a visa to enter on the spot? I am a US citizen if that makes a difference.
Thanks
Visa-on-arrival is only available for those arriving by air and who have already made the VOA arrangements through the internet.
You will have to get your Vietnamese Visa at the VNese embassy in Phnom Penh.
Is it possible to go from Phnom Penh by bus / train / car to the border of Vietnam and get a visa to enter on the spot? I am a US citizen if that makes a difference.
Thanks
Visa-on-arrival is only available for those arriving by air and who have already made the VOA arrangements through the internet.
You will have to get your Vietnamese Visa at the VNese embassy in Phnom Penh.If you are looking for multiple entries or longer term visas (6 or 12 months), they are cheapest in Cambodia. No need to go to the consulate. In PP many guest houses and travel agents will do normally within 2 days. If you don't have a photo, they scan the one in your passport for 1$ extra.
I believe the visas are not issued in PP, but in Sihanoukville.
What about Ukriane people? Visa-on-arrival?
FreshPhoenix
02-04-12, 17:33
Visa on arrival is only good at the two major airports. Almost everyone can get it but make sure to apply for letter ahead of time. You can not just fly in and get it at airport, just google visa on arrival vietnam and pay for the service, you'll get a copy of acceptance letter which will be redeemed at airport for actual visa. It can not be used at regular border crossing.
Just get it in Phnom Penh, pay a bit extra and you can have it on same day.
As far as I know there is no embassy in Sihanoukville so if you try to apply there they'll have to send it over to Phnom Penh.
Is it possible to go from Phnom Penh by bus / train / car to the border of Vietnam and get a visa to enter on the spot? I am a US citizen if that makes a difference.
Thanks
Is this really what is happening to foreign tourists? Any comments?
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/en/travel/18843/coming-to-vietnam-to-be--overcharged.html
Der Tourist
02-15-12, 20:04
Is this really what is happening to foreign tourists? Any comments?
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/en/travel/18843/coming-to-vietnam-to-be--overcharged.htmlDon't they have meters in taxis? There is a problem of over-charging foreign tourists in Thailand but all it takes to avoid it is a bit of vigilance and at least a general idea how much stuff should cost. Regarding taxis it's just about "meter?". If no meter, no taxi. Doesn't the same work in Vietnam?
Is this really what is happening to foreign tourists? Any comments?
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/en/travel/18843/coming-to-vietnam-to-be--overcharged.htmlThe atrocious butchering of the English language by the Vietnamese news media website in the above article aside, and coming from a 4-year Singaporean expat in HCMC such as myself, yes.
Hi All;
I just read an interesting article about ear picking in Vietnam. Some locals claim that it can be almost as good as sex.
Has anybody had this?
Hi All;
I just read an interesting article about ear picking in Vietnam. Some locals claim that it can be almost as good as sex.
Has anybody had this?But actually, it is referred to as Earwax Removal. The cost is included with a haircut at every barbershop operated by Vietnamese ladies.
Cheers.
Fast Eddie 48
02-22-12, 16:29
Hi All;
I just read an interesting article about ear picking in Vietnam. Some locals claim that it can be almost as good as sex.
Has anybody had this?To you me
Go ahead try it yourself be a guinea piggy and tell us how you like it.
Fast Eddie 48
Thanks for the response guys. Yeah, when I go to Vietnam, I think I will be a guinea pig.
Crocodilexp
02-27-12, 04:14
I just read an interesting article about ear picking in Vietnam. Some locals claim that it can be almost as good as sex. Has anybody had this?I tried the earwax removal at a hole-in-the-wall place near Bui Vien street. 30. 000 dong. Meh, doesn't do anything for me at all.
Typically, Asians have the dry type of earwax, while Caucasians and Africans are likely to have the wet type. Due to this physical difference, we may not enjoy it as much as Asians do.
If they mess it up (unlikely, but happens) , there could be health consequences, from perforated ear drums to infections (they don't keep the tools sterile and it's sharp).
Don't they have meters in taxis?Yes, taxis do have meters. The trick is to only use reliable taxi companies like Vinasun or Me Linh. Fares are very cheap. Typically 20, 000 to 30, 000 VND ($1-$1. 50) for a trip within District 1.
Avoid all others. Many smaller companies will have "fixed" meters that will overcharge.
Watch out for taxis that have names and colour schemes similar to the more reputable ones. For example, I've seen a "Vinasum" taxi.
Alwayshard45
04-17-12, 08:34
An interesting article found on Tuoi Tre Newspaper online about an online ring of escorts. The site says they do not rep the girls and make no money off of you seeing the girls, however you are required to pay a membership fee which entitles you to get the girls phone numbers. Site lists the girls by price or by area. Prices are 200k vnd to 1mil vnd per "shot". The site has pictures, measurements of the girls, and a mini review of the girls performance.
http://tuoitrenews.vn/cmlink/tuoitrenews/features/call-girl-ring-operates-via-sex-website-in-vietnam-1.68838
Here is a link to the actual site:
http://www.alauxanh.us/
The entire site is in Vietnamese. I have not used this service, I just read about it today in the paper and checked it out. Looks interesting and some what legit.
Alwayshard45
04-20-12, 14:53
http://www.alauxanh.us/
The entire site is in Vietnamese. I have not used this service, I just read about it today in the paper and checked it out. Looks interesting and some what legit.Well because of the Tuoi Tre online article in regards to this site, it has now been shut down. The website now states the following:
"Uu Tien Cong An Viet Nam Va Cac Nha Bao the Viet Ve ALauXanh (&272; UC PHU. VU ANH. TUONG MY).
Cam On Cac Nha Bao &272; a Gop Phan Giup Blog Noi Tieng!"
"Priority to the Viet Nam police and journalists who wrote about ALauXanh Site (Names of people).
Thank you journalists who made the blog famous!"
The site is now for sale: $1million USD.
DAAAAAAAMMMMNNNNN!
PoopieMunster
05-05-12, 07:18
Well because of the Tuoi Tre online article in regards to this site, it has now been shut down. The website now states the following:
"Uu Tien Cong An Viet Nam Va Cac Nha Bao the Viet Ve ALauXanh (&272; UC PHU. VU ANH. TUONG MY).
Cam On Cac Nha Bao &272; a Gop Phan Giup Blog Noi Tieng!"
"Priority to the Viet Nam police and journalists who wrote about ALauXanh Site (Names of people).
Thank you journalists who made the blog famous!"
The site is now for sale: $1million USD.
DAAAAAAAMMMMNNNNN!They require you or will require you to pay a fee to just register and use the service once the webpage is up and running again.
Uncle Ho Haha
06-29-12, 22:10
they require you or will require you to pay a fee to just register and use the service once the webpage is up and running again.hi, just last night i checked out this site after long time: running as always, nothign special. nice source of contacts if you speak viet.
Uncle Ho Haha
06-30-12, 06:50
Hi, just last night I checked out this site after long time: running as always, nothign special. Nice source of contacts if you speak viet.Sorry ignore this, alauxanh indeed only shows start screen asking rto subscribe, I was talking about lauxanh. Us which is a forum for the nice things, click on "Hinh sex Viet" and you enter the form, only vietnamese, but lots of good pics.
MutantChicken
06-30-12, 09:10
Hi, just last night I checked out this site after long time: running as always, nothign special. Nice source of contacts if you speak viet.The original post was about alauxanh. A copy of the original site lauxanh which is like the viet versian of ISG. On there you can read rports about girls how much to pay and get the girls contacts fromn the posters. Its is possible to get contacts but it does take a bit of work. The more you report the easier it is to gte contact numbers. The alauxanh is a attempt to make money off the original site. I dounbt its worth any money nor are any normal viet guys willing to pay money to register given the ease which to get sex once you live here. I mean if you really keen to gte sex you would offer money to the original poster on lauxanh rather than give money to the guys on alauxanh.
I am planning my first trip to Vietnam. I have been to BKK in the past and I am worried that the p4p scene isn't as accessible as BKK for an English speaker. My preference would be to find someone that could act as a tourguide / escort for the week. Is this a reasonable objective? I have rtff but haven't found much info on such arrangements or how to go about setting something up. Any of you locals want to hook a fellow monger up?
Most sex shops in Ho Chi Minh City are only allowed to sell condoms, but many have crossed the limit to provide illegal sex toys and fake or unregistered aphrodisiacs.
They are illegally imported into Vietnam by magnates who then spread them to shops in the city and other provinces.
A magnate named Ngoc said, 'It costs an owner 20-30 million dong [US$960 – 1, 440] to run a sex shop in the city, and he can make back millions of dong from only two customers. '
He added he could even supply anesthetic drugs to trap girls, but warned of great care to avoid overdose.
All kinds of sex toys in the shops.
Sex shops have recently sprung up around Ho Chi Minh City, especially on streets like Phan Dang Luu, Quang Trung and Cach Mang Thang Tam, which have dozens such shops.
Announcements of staff recruitment for the sex shops have flooded online websites, leaflets and newspapers. Not only do they get salary, but staff members also earn commissions from the products they sell.
In the role of an employee of a sex shop on Pham The Hien Street in District 8, a Tuoi Tre journalist was required by Tuan, the owner, open the door of the shop halfway so that clients wouldn't feel shy while standing inside.
And all staffers have to introduce the products right after a client enters so that they may not be shy about asking for something. A typical greeting must be, 'Hello, here we have condoms, lubricant gel, dildos and other sex toys. What do you want? '
This is the first part on the website tuoitrenews. Vn
I found a video in youtube and needed info regarding where is it located at? Any ideas?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/eyVyNT4jriQ
Who pissed off JohnDao, and why? This forum dead without him. We are sorry John, so come on back!
Who pissed off JohnDao, and why? This forum dead without him. We are sorry John, so come on back!Hi Hardluck,
Thanks for remembering me and missing me! No one pissed me off, I just got tired of posting the same info and answering the same questions about Hot Toc, BJ, Massage etc, over and over and figured others can provide the info just as well. As for photos, I posted a lot and while I appreciate the comments I got, it's 98% take and 2% give at this Forum. Anyway, it's harder and harder these days to get full photo series of girls and Internet awareness has spread well out of the cities now. Not impossible, just more difficult so I usually don't lug a camera around anymore.
JD
Hi Hardluck
Thanks for remembering me and missing me! No one pissed me off, I just got tired of posting the same info and answering the same questions about Hot Toc, BJ, Massage etc, over and over and figured others can provide the info just as well. As for photos, I posted a lot and while I appreciate the comments I got, it's 98% take and 2% give at this Forum. Anyway, it's harder and harder these days to get full photo series of girls and Internet awareness has spread well out of the cities now. Not impossible, just more difficult so I usually don't lug a camera around anymore.
JDI honestly cannot say I blame you buddy.
i just got tired of posting the same info and answering the same questions about hot toc, bj, massage etc, over and overthats why i don't bother posting any more places i've been to / found on here.
its all the same shit over and over again. doesn't matter where you go, what district you are in, its all the same.
pretty much every massage parlour you go to where the girls wear a skirt with sewn in shorts underneath will give you extras.
the mp's where the girls wear white trousers and suit jacket type clothes are purely therapeutic.
I found a video in youtube and needed info regarding where is it located at? Any ideas?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/eyVyNT4jriQLe Duyen 1, 2.3 or 4.
They are all around, one on Thu Khoa Huan, one on Truong Dinh, etc. Lots of bright lights and pretty girls visible from the street. The sure sign that nothing is happening there.
JD
Who pissed off JohnDao, and why? This forum dead without him. We are sorry John, so come on back!Where are you, JD?
Nille Copenhagen
09-08-12, 21:48
Here is detailed story of an American who bought a girl out of Saunaclub and married her.
A fool for love.
Fucking with the enemy:
http://hoahao.tumblr.com
Another tale:
http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader2006/reader2272.htm
"Pretty Woman" story that turns into a nightmare!
Wow, what a surreal story, I've heard these scam stories of marriges with Thai girls and EE girls as well,
But never thought it would be so a well planned conspiracy where 100 of people were involved (including the local cops).
Moral: "Never fall in love with a working girl" we men are weak and suckers for women.
Have you guys heard similar stories or maybe experience someting similar, I have a friend who married a thai girl and also got cheated big time.
Has anyone used vietjet air? They had their maiden flight last year and now operating domestically in vietnam, they even had a bikini contest on the first maiden flight. I was checking their site regarding flights within vietnam and it seems very very cheap, fligh from hcmc to nha trang under $30 US and takes 1 hr.
If anyone has any exp with them, any info would be greatly appreciated. I want t do how was their services and if they are reliable to make to said destination on time or not.
AussieDoug
10-26-12, 07:33
Eventually found Heart of Darkness, was looking on HBT, but then wised up. Got picked up by a MILF, with a plastic set of tits, who asked me how much I would pay for all night and bareback, so I tell her 500, meaning 500, 000 dong and off we go to hai Long 5, a one star hotel masquerading as a 2 star hotel, had booked a window with a room but not available when I checked in, and rather than they shuffle me off to some other hotel I take the windowless room, it's not actually windowless, but the window opens on to the walkway, so you keep it firmly locked.
So we commence to banging away, she backs up three times, too willing to suck it up again, and seems to really enjoy it, or maybe a good actor. Come the morning I proffer her the 500, 000 dong and off she goes, she wants $500 US, she only does short times for $100 US, and you get all this says she, as she motions to her body shape, eventually I give her 2 million, thats about $100 US, and I think is still on the high side, but does any one pay this $500 US?
Now I have moved into the Intercontinental for 3 nights conference, no pickings there, but the hard Rock next door had a few freelancers I spotted while walking about las tnight.
This you did quite well to get it at 2mVND in the end. She probably thought her dream ticket had come up and would have been pretty pissed to get 20 bucks when expecting 500!
Eventually found Heart of Darkness,I thought this place had closed years ago, are you sure you have the correct name of the place? Do you mean Apocalypse Now?
If you really did mean Heart of Darkness, I'd be a bit curious to know where it is now. THen again, at $500 a go, sounds like it's no bargain.
Obviously nobody here would pay that much, and I doubt anyone but the most clueless and wealthy tourist would. She probably had a good idea you meant 500, 000, and just planned to squeeze you for as much as she could in the morning by pretending to be outraged. Acting is part of the required skill set for her job title. At Apocalypse Now (if that's where you were) you wouldn't be able to get a girl to go with you for 500,000 though. $100 definitely, and I haven't been there in years so can't say what the current going rate really is. Over a million, surely. Two seems like it must be a bit high though. I could be wrong.
Eventually found Heart of Darkness, was looking on HBT, but then wised up. Got picked up by a MILF, with a plastic set of tits, who asked me how much I would pay for all night and bareback, so I tell her 500, meaning 500, 000 dong and off we go to hai Long 5, a one star hotel masquerading as a 2 star hotel, had booked a window with a room but not available when I checked in, and rather than they shuffle me off to some other hotel I take the windowless room, it's not actually windowless, but the window opens on to the walkway, so you keep it firmly locked.
So we commence to banging away, she backs up three times, too willing to suck it up again, and seems to really enjoy it, or maybe a good actor. Come the morning I proffer her the 500, 000 dong and off she goes, she wants $500 US, she only does short times for $100 US, and you get all this says she, as she motions to her body shape, eventually I give her 2 million, thats about $100 US, and I think is still on the high side, but does any one pay this $500 US?
Now I have moved into the Intercontinental for 3 nights conference, no pickings there, but the hard Rock next door had a few freelancers I spotted while walking about las tnight.It's a win-win for her. The absolute worst she can do is 500, 000 Dong (which is her lowest price) and the best is $500. She's pretty sure that to work out the "misunderstanding" you will give her more than 500, 000 Dong and probably less than $500. You did, you gave her 2 million Dong or a bit less than $100. It would have been difficult for her to negotiate this up front with you, so she is a clever girl and did well.
JD
Does anyone have the names / locations of any massage parlours or Go Go bars in Hoi An? (Please PM me) I couldn't find anything in the Vietnam section of the forums.
Old New Guy
02-21-13, 20:53
I have to say that the true Viet beauty impresses more than the Thai one. Although, the sexiness of Thai makes me blood boil to an higher temperature. So far I've seen quite few 8s and 9s (face only) and have been lucky enough to exchange fluids with some too.
What's your take? Which type of Viet girl would get you moving mountains?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-SxJgOSQs
How about this one, how do you rate her, and then the one that takes $10, would YOU give her $10?
Old New Guy
02-22-13, 07:39
So, we all know, this is the land of BJs, I got two already that were quite good, and cheap. I may even hope to get the famous BJ double-CIM no-mouth-off here, a kind of a stunt that I have experienced in Thailand only years ago. So far so good.
Then I have the sophisticated fuckbuddy lady, tell me that she hate BJs, but other than that a very good shag?
Now, I'm a BJs man like anybody else, for years when Buenos Aires I complained that I could fcuk the brains out of many hot girls but could could not get a good BJ because all were as they did not like "la leche en boca", jeez monger are serial whiners sometime!
Fast forward and I'm here, willing to fcuk the cute small girl at NTK 84, but found found that difficult as she first said yes then SMS'd no?
What kind of karma teaching comes from all that? Where do I go today? Seriously confused now.
So, we all know, this is the land of BJs, I got two already that were quite good, and cheap. I may even hope to get the famous BJ double-CIM no-mouth-off here, a kind of a stunt that I have experienced in Thailand only years ago. So far so good.
Then I have the sophisticated fuckbuddy lady, tell me that she hate BJs, but other than that a very good shag?
Now, I'm a BJs man like anybody else, for years when Buenos Aires I complained that I could fcuk the brains out of many hot girls but could could not get a good BJ because all were as they did not like "la leche en boca", jeez monger are serial whiners sometime!
Fast forward and I'm here, willing to fcuk the cute small girl at NTK 84, but found found that difficult as she first said yes then SMS'd no?
What kind of karma teaching comes from all that? Where do I go today? Seriously confused now.Most of the girls at the BJ places will tell you that you can fuck them later somewhere, but a very few will make good on it. They tell you that lie because: 1) So you give a better tip and 2) So that you come back there to the BJ place again.
JD
I have to say that the true Viet beauty impresses more than the Thai one. Although, the sexiness of Thai makes me blood boil to an higher temperature. So far I've seen quite few 8s and 9s (face only) and have been lucky enough to exchange fluids with some too.
What's your take? Which type of Viet girl would get you moving mountains?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-SxJgOSQs
How about this one, how do you rate her, and then the one that takes $10, would YOU give her $10?She's not Vietnamese, she's an American, although her grandparents or parents were probably from Vietnam before they emigrated.
JD
Does that mean you can do it as much times you like.
I was recently in HCm and got to know the recent changes in guest policy of the hotels.
Earlier, when I used to travel to HCM hotels never allowed me to check in with a Viet lady, saying that only if you are a married couple you can check in together. However, this time while staying in a hotel in Dist 1 I was informed by the reception that this law has been amended now and that one can check in with Viet lady even though you might not be married to her. I am not sure how true is this but was able to check in with my Viet gf.
One night I came back to the hotel with a lady from a pool bar. I thought that they might think that she is my gf and let me in. However, reception stopped me and asked her to check in. Well, that would have been a tedious process. The guy out there asked for 10 dollars and let us in. I think that this is pretty common in HCM hotels.
Joyra, are you right man. Can you really bring friends over to hotels now. When I was in vietnam last year, I was stopped at reception and not allowed to take my lady up.
I had to go to a short time motel for 20 dollars. The following day I then asked at 11 hotels in ho chi minh if they are girl friendly, all 11 said no.
I want to go back to vietnam but that put me off. If any members can confirm the rules have changed. I guess I will be going back to vietnam. Someone please reply.
It is a fantastic country besides our hobby or sport.
Joyra, are you right man. Can you really bring friends over to hotels now. When I was in vietnam last year, I was stopped at reception and not allowed to take my lady up.
I had to go to a short time motel for 20 dollars. The following day I then asked at 11 hotels in ho chi minh if they are girl friendly, all 11 said no.
I want to go back to vietnam but that put me off. If any members can confirm the rules have changed. I guess I will be going back to vietnam. Someone please reply.
It is a fantastic country besides our hobby or sport.I know someone who works for park hyatt, one of the most expensive hotels in saigon. She says the rules have not changed. The 3 or more stars almost always enforce the rule, while the lower standard hotels usually don't
WaterTraveller
06-26-13, 07:07
Poor austrailian guy, but you know people beware this can happen anywhere.
I have been in Cuba for a while, dealt with Columbianas in Costa Rica and Panama, and of course heard or stories.
From dealings with Ukranian and Russian women. Have an strict rule I follow. Know the woman for 3 years before trusting them.
Then you still only have a 50% chance of success. Why should I think I'm different than others.
Met a lot of men in central America that wish they had stayed single.
Long story short 52 and still single, never married but keeping my eyes open and thinkingbwith my big head.
Thought it was a good write up too warn others
I've been here for more than a few days now and in comparison with BKK, everything is more underground, except perhaps the body massage salons, but you are not sure to get a hand job in every salons. I should also mention the kind of "Hot Toc" with pretty sexy girls in D1 where you will get only a facial massage, hair cut, foot massage, but something else you can forget it. Furthermore you will pay as much as the hand job in a body massage or a BBBJ at BJ bars or salons.
I had a few BBBJ in DBP, the well known adress. I got some others at NPK, price around 400 000 at the last one.
I went today to a new place in D5 to get a body massage, BBBJ and I had a really pretty one. 400 000 VND.
Plenty of these places in Saigon. How to recognise them? If you see some pretty girls in a hot toc, not in D1, just ask for the price, if they say something like 400 000 VND, just ask with "blowjob", they use the same word in Vietnamese. They will understand you. So no need for a tour guide in Saigon.
I perhaps overpaid a bit, and the price is maybe cheaper for Vietnamese people or someone that can speak Vietnamese. Is the price 300 000 VND? Can someone confirm that or was the right price?
MutantChicken
08-28-13, 16:47
I've been here for more than a few days now and in comparison with BKK, everything is more underground, except perhaps the body massage salons, but you are not sure to get a hand job in every salons. I should also mention the kind of "Hot Toc" with pretty sexy girls in D1 where you will get only a facial massage, hair cut, foot massage, but something else you can forget it. Furthermore you will pay as much as the hand job in a body massage or a BBBJ at BJ bars or salons.
I had a few BBBJ in DBP, the well known adress. I got some others at NPK, price around 400 000 at the last one.
I went today to a new place in D5 to get a body massage, BBBJ and I had a really pretty one. 400 000 VND.
Plenty of these places in Saigon. How to recognise them? If you see some pretty girls in a hot toc, not in D1, just ask for the price, if they say something like 400 000 VND, just ask with "blowjob", they use the same word in Vietnamese. They will understand you. So no need for a tour guide in Saigon.
I perhaps overpaid a bit, and the price is maybe cheaper for Vietnamese people or someone that can speak Vietnamese. Is the price 300 000 VND? Can someone confirm that or was the right price?Try 200k for a BBBJ from a hot toc. Not that I need to know so it not like I'm asking but now I assume you will be sharing this information to the masses, as you were clearly miffed that I didn't share my own information regading these places right. Everyone PM Volpone he has the next Benny for you here!
MutantChicken
08-28-13, 18:12
I have been accused by so many guys of posting useless posts but then the same guys would be asking information that I had previously provided.
Hot toc with BJ.
Basically its a barbarshop that you can get a BBBJ upstairs, unlike Volpones assertion, its not that easy to find, and sure you can go into every barbarshop you see and go in and say blowjob and see if you get any resposne, but most guys have better tact and want to be seen to be sane, and sure he could have been lucky and struck it lucky first go, but I don't think everyone would be so lucky if it was so easy then this thread would be filled with spots rather than just benny and a few others for the past 10 yrs.
Basically the underlining premise is you get a BJ and it last for 30mins. But the catch is finding where the girls are pretty and do good service and where they might CIM or where they don't want to make you bargain for it, will they give you a BJ or rather just a HJ. Cost is between 150k to 500k the upper limit relates to foreigner prices like volpones 400k, tho some places charge 400k becuase you get 1hr and you can cum twice with cim etc. The advantage is that ist cleaner, has aircom, the girls generally prettier and they more centrally located.
Cafe om with BJ.
Here its a cafe, you get a drink and a BJ at the back on the tile floor, on a garden chair, on a rattan mat or a dirty matress. It all depends, you get 20min and a BBBJ. Again if you know what to look for its easy to find, but where are the pretty gals, how do you endure you don't get ripped off, how do you ensure they don't just give you a HJ etc, that's the tricky point, and how do you find them, by doing S loops down every street in Saigon? The pro of this joint is it cheaper, it used to be half the price of barbar shops now the rate is 100-130k, so not that cheap, its faster and dirtier, but the advantage is that you can go window shopping, you can go in take a drink costs you 20k look around at the gals take your time then if not appeals to you then you can leave. Try doing that at a hot toc where you will be pressured to make a choice quickly. And you can find hidden gems and they generally not as commerical as the barbar shop gals.
I remember one guy who posted how after a few times of sticking his head into hot toc looking around then leaving, the next time he stopped by they told he to go away and refused him service, so I would not suggest anyone doing what volpone says ie go to any barbarshop and then walk in and say blowjob. It could be rather embarrasing if it happens to be the wrong time and place.
Try 200k for a BBBJ from a hot toc. Not that I need to know so it not like I'm asking but now I assume you will be sharing this information to the masses, as you were clearly miffed that I didn't share my own information regading these places right. Everyone PM Volpone he has the next Benny for you here!Miffed! Not at all. I will leave Saigon soon. Furthermore I have my own gf to take care of my second head. It's nice however to try something else and to understand a bit how it works here. Anyway bye bye Saigon.
I have been accused by so many guys of posting useless posts but then the same guys would be asking information that I had previously provided.
Hot toc with BJ.
Basically its a barbarshop that you can get a BBBJ upstairs, unlike Volpones assertion, its not that easy to find, and sure you can go into every barbarshop you see and go in and say blowjob and see if you get any resposne, but most guys have better tact and want to be seen to be sane, and sure he could have been lucky and struck it lucky first go, but I don't think everyone would be so lucky if it was so easy then this thread would be filled with spots rather than just benny and a few others for the past 10 yrs.
Basically the underlining premise is you get a BJ and it last for 30mins. But the catch is finding where the girls are pretty and do good service and where they might CIM or where they don't want to make you bargain for it, will they give you a BJ or rather just a HJ. Cost is between 150k to 500k the upper limit relates to foreigner prices like volpones 400k, tho some places charge 400k becuase you get 1hr and you can cum twice with cim etc. The advantage is that ist cleaner, has aircom, the girls generally prettier and they more centrally located.Haha, I've been to one of these places. Actually find out by accident. I went there for a proper hair cut (Hot Toc in Vnmese) a couple of times, each time I used the hair wash, and they offer "relax massage" (mát xa th&432; giăand) , but I keep refuse until one day I want to try out. And it's turn out to be BBBJ with CIM (depend on the girls).
The set up: there will be one guy doing proper hair cut and act as pimp, one girl dedicated to hair wash, and she can also do the deed. Couple more girls just for BJ.
Cost: hair cut 25K + 25k hair wash, massage 70K, tips equal ticket, however I always give 200K all in.
That place is now closed, but another one open next door. I haven't been to the new one since it's look too obvious with girls in short skirt, and not much space for bike parking.
David Larkin
09-24-13, 20:11
Last two time I went to Vietnam they preferred brand new bills over used. On Oct. 8th the USA will be distributing a new style $100 bill. Will both the new and old STYLE $100 bills be accepted?
Last two time I went to Vietnam they preferred brand new bills over used. On Oct. 8th the USA will be distributing a new style $100 bill. Will both the new and old STYLE $100 bills be accepted?I've never had a problem using old or new $100 bills as long as they were in good condition.
David Larkin
10-02-13, 00:33
I will be in Vietnam in about 4 weeks, the new USA $100 bill come out next week (Oct. 8) , will it be too soon to bring the new type bills or should I bring the old type.
I will be in Vietnam in about 4 weeks, the new USA $100 bill come out next week (Oct. 8) , will it be too soon to bring the new type bills or should I bring the old type.Notes is poor condition which are torn, faded, ripped, etc. Are not welcomed in any denomination. New money is good, new style is fine.
Fast Eddie 48
10-03-13, 20:32
Last two time I went to Vietnam they preferred brand new bills over used. On Oct. 8th the USA will be distributing a new style $100 bill. Will both the new and old STYLE $100 bills be accepted?To David
I don't think you should worry too much some money exchange just want to give you a lower rate because your US bill is old, I am not sure about the new US bill just bring the old style US bill to be save.
Fast Eddie 48
GoldenGorilla
11-03-13, 02:42
Can someone with Southeast Asia experience point me in the right direction? I am in a smaller city in Vietnam; Vinh City. It is roughly halfway between Hanoi and Saigon. I am looking for good pimp. Someone that will not rip me off and that will find hot girls for me.
I am new to the mongering scene. I am a young ex-pat who has been in Vietnam for a few months. Dating here is completely different than in the US. Casual sex is almost non-existent.
I have visited some massage parlors. The results have been subpar. The girls are mediocre looking and the sex is very robotic. I am looking for a girl that really enjoys sex. I also feel like I am getting ripped off. I have paid 1,000, 000 dong for sex and 600,000 for a BJ. I have been quoted anywhere from 1,500,000 to 3,000,000 for a whole night with a girl. What should I expect to pay?
I have some fantasies that I want to act on while I am young: a threesome with 2 girls. 4 hand massage, anal, watching 2 girls go at it and then joining in. Help me make these fantasies a reality!
AmericanThief
11-06-13, 17:04
Can someone with Southeast Asia experience point me in the right direction? I am looking for good pimp. Someone that will not rip me offThat's funny dude, really funny.
Seriously, about your fantasy. I've been to Thailand 7 times, and everything you want is available, and easy to find. 3 somes. 4 hand massage, girl on girl, anal, very easy and available, and did I mention easy? Annies for one can do all that for you, but you ain't going to get any of that in Vinh City.
What the hell are you doing in Vin City anyway? Nothing but factories there.
Save your money, and go to Bangkok or Pattaya on your next holiday.
You're going to find it hard in Vin City for a hot viet girl. Maybe an ugly darkie or something, but not what you want being that your so young and handsome and all.
I have some fantasies that I want to act on while I am young: a threesome with 2 girls. 4 hand massage, anal, watching 2 girls go at it and then joining in. Help me make these fantasies a reality!Great fantasies, although pretty much the same as everyone's. Wrong country though. And surely the wrong city in the wrong country to compound your mistake. Go to Thailand or to the PI.
JD
AusMonger100
11-18-13, 07:51
So we've all been reading about the crackdowns and know it is harder to be a monger in the land of smiles, but what will actually happen to you if you get caught in one of the places with a girl, or worse if she is in your hotel room with you? Having no clue as to the lcoal cops or customs, would I be in a little or a lot of shit? I monger for fun, not really keen to get prosecuted in another country, especially when I only speak English. (I've tried, I really am bad with languages).
So we've all been reading about the crackdowns and know it is harder to be a monger in the land of smiles, but what will actually happen to you if you get caught in one of the places with a girl, or worse if she is in your hotel room with you? Having no clue as to the lcoal cops or customs, would I be in a little or a lot of shit? I monger for fun, not really keen to get prosecuted in another country, especially when I only speak English. (I've tried, I really am bad with languages).Mongering in The Land of Smiles (Thailand) is actually pretty easy. Vietnam, not so much.
Mongering in The Land of Smiles (Thailand) is actually pretty easy. Vietnam, not so much.I don't see Vietnam especially HCMC as being all that hard. Its even more pleasurable than the hard commercial stuff in Bangkok or Pattaya.
The streets and shops of HCMC are full of SYT who want to improve their life and see English (and practising it) and foreigners in hotels as a means to an end. Strike up a conversation and lots of good things happen. Stay in a small hotel (less than $50 = GF) near Dong Khoi and go for a walk and a coffee in the morning and smile and say good morning to every SYT you see.
Remember that there are no 'Freebies' and be generous and all kinds of good things can happen.
Hello guys,
I lost my password to my old VIP account (TopLord) so I have to pay $20 on this account in order to post. I just want to share with you all my knowledge about VN and if you have any question, feel free to ask. I used to visit VN twice every year when I was younger but I haven't been back to VN for about 5 yrs. I will be back to VN next month. Although, price has changed and I don't have exact pricing for each region in VN but I do know roughly since I do talk to my friends in VN a lot. This is my first post on this account so I just want to start out with a more generalize post.
VN has 4 main regions (North, South, Central, Southwest) and understanding each region cultures will help you how to deal with people / business. Please forgive me if you feel I am biasing or discriminating. Take it or not is up to you.
North (such as Hanoi, Hai Phong, Do Son): People here are more civilized than people from other regions in term of interpersonal relation. They treat, talk and do business with you very professionally most of the times. However, when they are mad, they are the meanest people in the country. They are the extreme on both ends (good and bad). When doing business with them, be comfortable to negotiate with them to make any deal. Once the deal is closed, they will keep the promises to the deal most of the times. In Hanoi, some of the places will try to cheat you such as cheating you on Karaoke bill and etc. So, if you want to go to places, have someone (security guards, young guys who work in the hotel you stay in) take you to place you want to go. He don't charge you anything. He just make sure his customer will not get rip off. He will take you there, introduce you to the business and leave. That way, the business won't dare to cheat on you. If you want sex in the North, in my opinion, don't go to places like boss. Girls there are rip off. They wear nice clothes and etc. But they are not as good as you think they are under neon / laser light. I highly recommend you go to Do Son. My favorite location. You can find sex there left and right 24X7. Sex there is very cheap and girls there are not allowed to ask for tip. Girls there never beg for extra money. Price is fix and girls knew that. 5 yrs ago, I paid 130 K for 2 shots / 2hrs and the service was always good, good altitude. You need not to negotiate the price here since it is fixed. One price for all. However, I always tipped them extra because that is my nice nature. Many times, the girls were hesitate to take my tips because that was not normal there. Caution in Do Son: do no buy crab / food from people (girls) selling on the beach. 99.9% of the time they will rip you off. They have their own scale and if you buy 5 kilo, of crab, their scale say 5kg but it actually about 1.5 kg. Trust me on that and their products suck but they advertise very good. Don't fall for it. Girls in Do Son are from 18 to under 25. At night, around midnight, if you stay in one of the hotel and look down, you will see at least 30 girls walking / selling sex below. Like a market selling sex. My no#1 recommendation in VN.
Let me know if you find this info is helpful and I will continue to post for other regions. If you think this is offensive / bias toward a certain region, please let me know and I'll delete the post.
GentleBright
12-02-13, 04:05
I don't see Vietnam especially HCMC as being all that hard. Its even more pleasurable than the hard commercial stuff in Bangkok or Pattaya.
The streets and shops of HCMC are full of SYT who want to improve their life and see English (and practising it) and foreigners in hotels as a means to an end. Strike up a conversation and lots of good things happen. Stay in a small hotel (less than $50 = GF) near Dong Khoi and go for a walk and a coffee in the morning and smile and say good morning to every SYT you see.
Remember that there are no 'Freebies' and be generous and all kinds of good things can happen.Sorry to ask but what is a SYT?
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