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I don't see Vietnam especially HCMC as being all that hard. Its even more pleasurable than the hard commercial stuff in Bangkok or Pattaya.
The streets and shops of HCMC are full of SYT who want to improve their life and see English (and practising it) and foreigners in hotels as a means to an end. Strike up a conversation and lots of good things happen. Stay in a small hotel (less than $50 = GF) near Dong Khoi and go for a walk and a coffee in the morning and smile and say good morning to every SYT you see.
Remember that there are no 'Freebies' and be generous and all kinds of good things can happen.It sounds like Hanoi may be even easier in that regard than Saigon, if the following is accurate:
"As you walk along the street, you may find that people start talking to you. It is a cultural norm there to make conversation with strangers. They might ask you where you are from and other general questions. It takes a while to get used to that. However, there are times when you find this friendliness extremely helpful, such as when you are lost or need help."
http://wikitravel.org/en/Hanoi
Sweet young thing.
Sorry to ask but what is a SYT?
Fellow Mongers,
I have been mongerin' all over latin america and my home the USA for some time now. Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Colombia, Ecuador (where I was born). I have contributing posts in the respective countries. My fav of all time is Medellin. Been there 4 times. Tryin to do Peru the summer 2014.
But before I go to Peru. I want to hit up a asian country. I do a lot of MP in the states like Dallas TX, California just so I can get my asian fix. Mainly Korean and Thai beauties and some Chinese.
So my questions is which asian country do I go too. My main countries I'm looking at are Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia.
I don't really have a body type that I prefer. I usually like spinners with a little curves and thick girl with Phat booties. My requirements to going to a asian country is:
Price of serivces, GFE, and convenience of going from one place to the other for service. I like to do multiple pops a day. Thats why I like go to Medellin. (go from brothel to brothel then to the centro strip club) Love it!
Where do I get more bang for my buck? Correct me if I'm wrong. Thailand seems to have a lot of MP and bars which I like, but you end up pay $80 US for for an hour so. I might as well stay in the states.
The Philippines has a lot of skinny ladies with no shape. But the appeal of the ladies knowing some english does help.
I don't know what I get with the Indonesian chicks.
I would like to do all-nighters on this trip. Which place is better for this?
Please guys help a fellow mongerer out! Maybe viet has something better
Radical Guy
12-04-13, 22:57
Fellow Mongers,
I have been mongerin' all over latin america and my home the USA for some time now. Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Colombia, Ecuador (where I was born). I have contributing posts in the respective countries. My fav of all time is Medellin. Been there 4 times. Tryin to do Peru the summer 2014.
But before I go to Peru. I want to hit up a asian country. I do a lot of MP in the states like Dallas TX, California just so I can get my asian fix. Mainly Korean and Thai beauties and some Chinese.
So my questions is which asian country do I go too. My main countries I'm looking at are Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia.
I don't really have a body type that I prefer. I usually like spinners with a little curves and thick girl with Phat booties. My requirements to going to a asian country is:
Price of serivces, GFE, and convenience of going from one place to the other for service. I like to do multiple pops a day. Thats why I like go to Medellin. (go from brothel to brothel then to the centro strip club) Love it!
Where do I get more bang for my buck? Correct me if I'm wrong. Thailand seems to have a lot of MP and bars which I like, but you end up pay $80 US for for an hour so. I might as well stay in the states.
The Philippines has a lot of skinny ladies with no shape. But the appeal of the ladies knowing some english does help.
I don't know what I get with the Indonesian chicks.
I would like to do all-nighters on this trip. Which place is better for this?
Please guys help a fellow mongerer out! Maybe viet has something betterI haven't been to countries other than the Philippines, but I can tell you that it is universally agreed that the girls in the Philippines will give you much more of a GFE than any others. They are very emotional and sentimental, and very possessive, in general. And, depending on where you go, the cost is much lower.
Most girls are very happy with 2000-3000 PhP (like $45 to $65) for an all-nighter, especially if you find college students or others who aren't regular PFP types. You can seek these girls out in advance on free websites like dateinasia. Com, and have them waiting for you.
It is my understanding the girls in other countries see you as just a customer. Filipinas will see you as a boyfriend and potential husband, even if you make it clear that you are making no such commitments. But be careful, it is sooo easy to fall in love with these beauties! Good luck.
RG
so my questions is which asian country do i go too. my main countries i'm looking at are thailand, philippines, indonesia.why not try them all by going to just one country?
singapore brings together ladies from all those places, as well as from sri lanka & many from the prc.
some of the hottest viet girls are in singapore for only 25 usd a pop.
singapore is also extremely safe, unlike pi where girls working with corrupt le have falsely accused guys of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
Fellow Mongers,
I have been mongerin' all over latin america and my home the USA for some time now. Mexico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Colombia, Ecuador (where I was born). I have contributing posts in the respective countries. My fav of all time is Medellin. Been there 4 times. Tryin to do Peru the summer 2014.
But before I go to Peru. I want to hit up a asian country. I do a lot of MP in the states like Dallas TX, California just so I can get my asian fix. Mainly Korean and Thai beauties and some Chinese.
So my questions is which asian country do I go too. My main countries I'm looking at are Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia.
I don't really have a body type that I prefer. I usually like spinners with a little curves and thick girl with Phat booties. My requirements to going to a asian country is:
Price of serivces, GFE, and convenience of going from one place to the other for service. I like to do multiple pops a day...DCfan,
You an I think alike. Thailand is great and PI girls have no shape. I have been wanting to go to Vietnam based of recommendations from friends. My buddy went and and was getting 2 hours for $30 USD with models. I love viet woman and plan on going this year.
7-11 is in Vietnam now. I was there last January and they are popping up all over HCMC. There is one right down the street from my in-laws house. Burger King is popping up everywhere too. I've eaten at 2 of them and it tastes just like the US version. I know of 3 of them and not sure where the others are. One at the Airport, one in D1 and one in D10 for sure.I've seen many websites re convenience stores in Vietnam, but no mention of seven eleven stores, except one that said they were planning to come soon. These appear to have been around for a while:
Shop&Go (80 stores)
Circle K (50 stores)
B's mart (41 stores)
Ministop (17 stores)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_convenience_stores
"Since 2006, there are several chains of convenience stores in Vietnam, mostly seen in Ho Chi Minh City. The 3 most popular ones are Shop & Go, Circle K and Family Mart.
"Shop & Go was first established in 2005 at 74A1 Hai Ba Trung Street, District 1. Until now, it has expanded up to 70 stores nationwide. It offers a wide range of products: alcoholic beverages, confectionery, food, groceries, newspaper, etc. Shop & Go also has other service: phone cards and ATM. There are over 2000 products in each Shop & Go store, both local and imported products. Therefore, if one is seeking some foreign products, they may find Shop & Go suitable.
"List of some Shop & Go stores in Ho Chi Minh City:
http://www.vietnamonline.com/shopping/guide-to-convenience-stores-in-ho-chi-minh-city.html
Family Mart in Bangkok is basicly a clone of seven eleven there, from my limited observations.
Some stuff I've read says the above shops have ATM's, but I plan on travelling to Hanoi, so the options may be limited compared to Saigon.
Well, I don't mind paying US$ 100 or may be up to US$150 provided I can get a reasonably big room with facilities such a pool, fitness club, massage (at extra charge, of course) , etc.
I have already been to Singapore 4 times. However, I would like to try Hong Kong and Macau at least once. Tokyo? I don't know.
Thanks for your sharing your enlightening views.
I have been to LOS a few times and already this year, so I am also planning to visit Vietnam next year. Never been there before. Any recommendations / tips regarding hotels there. You may wish to reply in the VN forum.
Thanks again.I'd suggest the chances of obtaining the facilities you list at your price range are much better in Vietnam, Malaysia and Thailand than in Singapore, Hong Kong or Macau.
I read hotels reviews a lot but mostly in the 2 and 3 star category, at around $50 USD or less. My impressions are that Hong Kong hotel staff attitudes are quite cold compared to Vietnam. Moreover in VN they are much more likely to go the extra mile for you, or fulfill your every wish, such as in going out & buying you a SIM card, for example. Or accompanying you to a store or pharmacy to help you get what you need & not be ripped off. Such service seems necessary in VN because of the widespread scams. Ripping off tourists there has been described as their "national sport".
Manfield04
12-29-13, 19:48
Hi,
Thanks again.
Would you be kind enough to suggest / recommend some good hotels in HCM or Hanoi. I have never been there and I am planning a visit early next year.
I read hotels reviews a lot but mostly in the 2 and 3 star category, at around $50 USD or less. My impressions are that Hong Kong hotel staff attitudes are quite cold compared to Vietnam. Moreover in VN they are much more likely to go the extra mile for you, or fulfill your every wish, such as in going out & buying you a SIM card, for example. Or accompanying you to a store or pharmacy to help you get what you need & not be ripped off. Such service seems necessary in VN because of the widespread scams. Ripping off tourists there has been described as their "national sport".
Would you be kind enough to suggest / recommend some good hotels in HCM or Hanoi. I have never been there and I am planning a visit early next year.I've never been there, either, just read many reviews on Tripadvisor. Furthermore my focus is on cheap 2 or 3 star hotels under 50 USD in VN, not the kind you are into. So I don't have any recommendations, although the ISG HCMC Hotels thread may be of assistance.
Recently a poster named Nullnull did a review of some 4 and 5 star hotels in Saigon with gym etc that may be up your alley. For example the Hotel Continental which is listed as in the 2400 to 3100 baht range by the following site which has 525 reviews of the hotel & lists it as number 74 of 338 hotels in the city.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293925-d302746-Reviews-Hotel_Continental-Ho_Chi_Minh_City.html
From reviews I've read I get the impression these two cities are quite noisy with all the motorbikes on the streets & horn honking. As you mentioned noise being an issue in your SG hotel, you might want to take that into consideration when choosing a hotel in VN. Higher floors, rooms with no windows, or hotels off of main roads may be quieter.
Moreover in VN they are much more likely to go the extra mile for you, or fulfill your every wish, such as in going out & buying you a SIM card, for example. Or accompanying you to a store or pharmacy to help you get what you need & not be ripped off. Such service seems necessary in VN because of the widespread scams. Ripping off tourists there has been described as their "national sport".I think you are being more than a little optimistic. The lower end hotels you're seeking won't as honest as you might think. Though, being a newbie, you won't know that. Just keep in mind everyone is out to make a buck here. It doesn't mean they are bad people, that's just the way it is.
I think you are being more than a little optimistic. The lower end hotels you're seeking won't as honest as you might think. Though, being a newbie, you won't know that. Just keep in mind everyone is out to make a buck here. It doesn't mean they are bad people, that's just the way it is.It's got nothing to do with me. I just relayed what I read from thousands of hotel reports from Tripadvisor.
The top rated 2 to 3 star hotels in Vietnam often are described exactly as I said by tourists who have been there.
Moreover it's not just one or two people saying that per hotel, but dozens, so there can be no doubt of the veracity of the statements.
But don't take my word for it. Feel free to read the reviews yourself.
G'day,
Been reading this forum for ages.
New to the mongering scene.
Will be off to Bangkok 31/1 to 4/2, then HCM from 4/2-11/2 followed by HK from 11/2 til 26/2.
Will be with family 4th-7th in the country side. Be back in the city to start mongering.
Just curious if anyone wants to meet up and have a few beers before punting.
Australian born Vietnamese, I've studied Vietnamese but I am not as fluent as the locals.
Send me a PM, I'll reply once I subscribe (waiting on this darn debit card to arrive as I've lost mine).
Cheers
I'll be reporting as I monger in return as there is so much information on this thread.
Manfield04
04-27-14, 09:41
Hi folks,
Would be grateful if someone could PM me a safe and secure web link to get a Vietnam visa approval letter in view of Visa on Arrival in Hanoi.
Thanks,
Alfred
Mavericknl
04-27-14, 18:57
Hi Alfred,
I have used this one:
https://www.e-travelvietnam.com/visa.asp
Good luck.
Hi folks,
Would be grateful if someone could PM me a safe and secure web link to get a Vietnam visa approval letter in view of Visa on Arrival in Hanoi.
Thanks,
Alfred
Manfield04
04-29-14, 19:43
Dear Maverick,
Thanks very much mate. I'll try it. Cheers.
Hi Alfred,
I have used this one:
https://www.e-travelvietnam.com/visa.asp
Good luck.
Reading multiple news about riots in Vietnam. I am not a Chinese, but interested to know if any problems with all non Vietnamese?
Hey guys,
I'll be back to HCMC on July 4th. How has the-10 been looking lately. I stay there when I'm in town on Su Van Hanh, but really don't see much action around there. I'm usually walking during the day, sometimes on my bike. I know of a couple Hot Toc on the street but never partaken at them, pretty girls in short skirts working but seems like they are just sitting around most of the time.
I do get all the way up to the-1 when I take the bus or can walk there too, not that far for me. Just want to know how things are looking lately, been a year since I was there.
Does anyone have intell. On Nha Trang? It's being touted as a top retirement spot here in the US. Any info; would be appreciated such as night life, girls, restaurants etc. Thanks Doc.
Anyone know if you can have any luck in Ben Tre?
What does it mean when Vietnam girls, in particular sex trade workers, call you "Ali Baba"?
ParnellCat
10-12-14, 12:48
What does it mean when Vietnam girls, in particular sex trade workers, call you "Ali Baba"?Ali Baba in Vietnam is used to say thief or to steal. It' not the Vietnamese word which is cuc or said phonetically, sound like 'cuop'.
If she calls you Ali Baba, she is calling you a thief. If she is Ali Baba, she is the thief.
Often if they want to take your perfume, chocolate, etc. They will pretend to take it and say Ali Baba in a funny way as if they are overtly stealing it.
It's the ones who don't admit to Ali Baba while taking things you should worry about.
MutantChicken
10-12-14, 13:01
What does it mean when Vietnam girls, in particular sex trade workers, call you "Ali Baba"?Ali baba and the 40 "thieves". You guess the meaning esp since you know the context in which they called you ali baba.
Ali Baba in Vietnam is used to say thief or to steal. It' not the Vietnamese word which is cuc or said phonetically, sound like 'cuop'.
If she calls you Ali Baba, she is calling you a thief. If she is Ali Baba, she is the thief.
Often if they want to take your perfume, chocolate, etc. They will pretend to take it and say Ali Baba in a funny way as if they are overtly stealing it.
It's the ones who don't admit to Ali Baba while taking things you should worry about.The two times they called me Ali Baba was after a session with them & they were smiling when they said it, so I assume it was meant in a fun joking way. I smiled back.
As to their meaning, I didn't cum either time & didn't steal anything from them, unless they consider my not cumming in them a theft for some reason.
Having read the story of Ali Baba on wikipedia as I recall this was a guy who became rich via theft. So I'm guessing they think I'm some rich guy who after not cumming was saving my juice so I could go to pay and bang some more hookers after her. So maybe the comment is a joke related to sexual prowess.
Or maybe they feel bad about themselves that they didn't make me cum, so by calling me a thief it makes them feel better about themselves?
Alaska Man
12-17-14, 21:23
I am planning to visit Vietnam in January to meet a woman (a relative of friends who live in my city).
I am 50 y / o and she is 36. She has already raised a child and I am past the age of wanting to father a child.
If all goes well we may be partners for life. If not I still want to have a vasectomy.
Can anybody speak to the costs and safeness of getting a vasectomy in Vietnam, also where or how to.
Arrange this.
I will be in Na Trang but can travel anywhere.
If this is not the appropriate place to post this question I apologize and please direct me to the proper.
Forum.
You can PM me if you like.
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Richard Dawkins
12-18-14, 11:50
I am planning to visit Vietnam in January to meet a woman (a relative of friends who live in my city).
I am 50 y / o and she is 36. She has already raised a child and I am past the age of wanting to father a child.
If all goes well we may be partners for life. If not I still want to have a vasectomy.
Can anybody speak to the costs and safeness of getting a vasectomy in Vietnam, also where or how to.
In general Vietnam is not a place to consider medical tourism. I was recently researching this for family planning purposes. As in my very capable Vietnamese wife was doing a boat load of research. None of the "international" hospitals do this procedure and only one or two of the local ones. And remember this is in the capital city. I also looked into getting this done in Bangkok.
Basically it will cost about the same in Vietnam as your home country, need to be fully organised by your partner, you won't have any idea what is going on or being said. Little chance to ask questions of the doctors who will be doing this (even with your friend to translate, they don't really like being asked questions). Facilities will be poor and I would imagine overall experience would be pretty crappy.
Thailand wasn't much better, very expensive, more so than my home country and a pain in the rear to organise.
Figured out in the end it would be best to wait til the next time I go on holiday to my home country to have this done. If I were you I would get it done at home and forget about having it done in Vietnam if at all possible.
CRLuverGuy
12-18-14, 16:09
RD,
I've been in the international hospital for foreigners on many occasions on many trips to hcmc. Most of the trips in there were for severe medical treatments of broken bone which needed casting, torn ACL needed blood in the knee drained several times but surgery was done in states, and pneumonia treatment. Each and every time the place was courteous English speaking staff and doctors, super clean much better than major hospitals in states, and ridiculously cheap even though considered expensive by VN standards. None of the trips were more than few hundred $ and would have been five times more.
As for your Vsect, I wd recommend getting it done at home it would cost about the same. I had insurance so only had few hundred deductible for outpatient surgery under an hour total. I've done it years ago because of the laws and stories I've heard in VN from relatives. It was a ten minutes procedure and two days to recover basically walking gingerly and no hard exercise. I was in middle of karate tournament training and only had to stop for a week to recover. Also, the law in VN requires both husband and wife to be present and sign consents for the procedure. Not so in the states. I was informed more than five years ago that this surgery would be done at a state hospital too by their doctors. The stories were bad anesthesiologists causing deaths to horrible surgeons causing permanent scaring. A relative works at a hospital and husband is a doctor there. They both advise me to do it at home. I would suggest the same to you.
With all these personal facts, I hope it helps your decision as well.
Good luck
LuvAsianTang
12-19-14, 11:40
Personally I would never trust the cutting of my nut sac to anyone I could not talk with during the procedure. When I had mine done the doctor was on one side of the table and the nurse the other. They were treating the operation as if it was tea time and they were carrying on a conversation about the dr's sons up coming ball game like I wasn't even there. The dr. Had cut my sac and pulled out the vas deferens and was stretching it like he had a big fish on the other end and talking to the nurse about a fucking ball game. I said hey. You have a ball game right here and I would really like it if you paid more attention to what you are doing. The dr. Just shot me the " who the fuck do you think you are talking to" look and went back to doing the operation that he performs probably 5 or more of every day. In my opinion, american dr's are a bunch of arrogant pricks, where as in my several experiences that I've had dealing with asian dr's in thailand vietnam and the philippines, they all seemed to have a much more humble approach.
Now the question " would I rather have an arrogant prick who performs 5 + vasectomy's per day, or a nice guy dr who does maybe one a month cutting my nut sac? In this case I think I would be trusting the cutting of my nut sac to the arrogant prick thank you very much.
I love my nards, LAT <====8 still has full use of nards thanks to an arrogant prick.
CRLuverGuy
12-28-14, 03:37
Does anyone have info on if and how a US guy can get a moto license in HCMC? I currently have a valid US license with motorcycle endorsement.
Richard Dawkins
12-29-14, 05:55
Does anyone have info on if and how a US guy can get a moto license in HCMC? I currently have a valid US license with motorcycle endorsement.Currently the law would allow for you to get your car license translated and converted into a Vietnamese license which would also allow you to ride a motorbike. It would have the same validity as your Residence Card or Visa. Once you had this license, you would be able to take the practical motorbike test, without having to take the theory test and then obtain a motorbike license that would be permanently vaild.
That said, recent news articles have stated that the law will be changing in 2015 so that foreign drivers licenses will be recognised in Vietnam after having gone through translation, since Vietnam has recently signed up to the Vienna Accord to allow Vietnamese citizens to get a International Drivers Permit to use overseas. They will be trialling the new system in HCMC and Hanoi according to news reports. I haven't seen any more details released yet, you will need to search around. But it may be in your interest to hold off and wait for the new system to be announced.
I don't know anymore than I have read on the news sites, so I would suggest, doing a bit of research on the internet and using local contacts to try to find out about the new procedures.
AmericanThief
01-01-15, 12:46
Does anyone have info on if and how a US guy can get a moto license in HCMC? I currently have a valid US license with motorcycle endorsement.Two of my friends turned in their driver's license in exchange for a Vietnamese driver's license and paid about $10, no testing.
I was quoted by a visa agent a driver's license for about $250 because I don't have a current valid license with no testing.
In some cases you only need the driving test to get a license. Other cases you need to do the written and driving test. I've heard stories that you can cheat on the writing test somehow.
Cops also recognize international licenses too.
There are a few options.
So can I use my AAA International Drivers License to ride a motorbike legally in HCMC? Should I leave a 50 k note inside for the cop (like Indonesia)? Thanks.
Funman13.
Uncle Volodya
01-20-15, 23:16
Hi guys!
I need your advice:
I love Vietnamese girls and have had some great experiences with Viet girls in Singapore and Shanghai. I am thinking of going to HCM for a few days to visit two that I am still in contact with. Gorgeous girls and great GFE. Both said they would show me around and take care of me if I ever came to Vietnam.
However, I want to avoid paying the huge fees I paid to them when they were working abroad 200 SGD ST ($160) and 1000 CYN ($150) ST, 4000 CYN ($300) LT when I hooked up with them. What do you think would be a reasonable offer to them for LT? Or to maybe spend a few days with me on a trip to the seaside?
Also, how to avoid the overnight restrictions? Maybe I could rent an apartment or something? How worried should I be about Johnnie Law throwing me in the Hanoi Hilton if I have a girl sleepover?
I'd also like the check out the local scene. The girls must be stunning. But from RTFF it seems like the local P4 P scene is kind of a hassle. Quickies at Hot Tocs are not really my thing.
Thanks in advanced for any info and suggestions!
Uncle-V.
Attached are a few pics that will illustrate why I am so keen on visiting VN. LOL.
Hi guys!
I need your advice:
I love Vietnamese girls and have had some great experiences with Viet girls in Singapore and Shanghai. I am thinking of going to HCM for a few days to visit two that I am still in contact with. Gorgeous girls and great GFE. Both said they would show me around and take care of me if I ever came to Vietnam.
However, I want to avoid paying the huge fees I paid to them when they were working abroad 200 SGD ST ($160) and 1000 CYN ($150) ST, 4000 CYN ($300) LT when I hooked up with them. What do you think would be a reasonable offer to them for LT? Or to maybe spend a few days with me on a trip to the seaside?
Also, how to avoid the overnight restrictions? Maybe I could rent an apartment or something? How worried should I be about Johnnie Law throwing me in the Hanoi Hilton if I have a girl sleepover?
I'd also like the check out the local scene. The girls must be stunning. But from RTFF it seems like the local P4 P scene is kind of a hassle. Quickies at Hot Tocs are not really my thing.
Thanks in advanced for any info and suggestions!
Uncle-V.
Attached are a few pics that will illustrate why I am so keen on visiting VN. LOL.Uncle,
I am no expert in Vietnam but from my experience there. The long time rate I would say would be $1,281,900,00 which would be $60 USD. This would be for long time. But, because I know many Vietnamese and understand how they think in general. I guarantee they expect that you will pay the high rates you have paid them in other countries. Vietnam although I can understand is scary he first time. Is extremely safe and in my own experiences is extremely easy to find girls. You need to check with your hotel in person before you pay for your room or make a deal with the girl. From my understanding it is illegal for a woman not your wife to stay over. I never tried having a girl staying over for the record.
LuvAsianTang
01-21-15, 09:36
Hi guys!
I need your advice:
I love Vietnamese girls and have had some great experiences with Viet girls in Singapore and Shanghai. I am thinking of going to HCM for a few days to visit two that I am still in contact with. Gorgeous girls and great GFE. Both said they would show me around and take care of me if I ever came to Vietnam.
However, I want to avoid paying the huge fees I paid to them when they were working abroad 200 SGD ST ($160) and 1000 CYN ($150) ST, 4000 CYN ($300) LT when I hooked up with them. What do you think would be a reasonable offer to them for LT? Or to maybe spend a few days with me on a trip to the seaside?
Also, how to avoid the overnight restrictions? Maybe I could rent an apartment or something? How worried should I be about Johnnie Law throwing me in the Hanoi Hilton if I have a girl sleepover?
I'd also like the check out the local scene. The girls must be stunning. But from RTFF it seems like the local P4 P scene is kind of a hassle. Quickies at Hot Tocs are not really my thing.
Thanks in advanced for any info and suggestions!
Uncle-V.
Attached are a few pics that will illustrate why I am so keen on visiting VN. LOL.I think that if they are working the trade in vietnam, they are now getting the going rate, that's just simple economics. If you give them more, then they will expect more from every one else, or just think of you as an easy touch. If they say no then counter with the carrot " if you are really hot in bed etc then I will give you a nice tip" that often works for me. Tips, after all, does stand for "To Insure Proper Servicing" doesn't it? Haha.
They do look very lovely, if they are ok with it, perhaps you can share their digits in p m.
Good luck and happy pooning, LAT.
Hi guys!
I need your advice:.Ouch. From your photos it does seem like they're a bit higher standard than typical here. Ones that look like that try to charge $100 at clubs here for ST, $150 I ghuess LT; but they can be negotiated down. Problem is you are coming from another country so you'll have to pretend you know the going rates. Some guys here will say they can get way cheaper than that, and its true, but surely those ones would be rougher looking than what's in your pics, flawed in some way or other. Check a website like banhmy dot us to get a sampling of prices. I've seen ones who look like yours go for about 1 point five million on those sites, you blocked the faces so I can't be totally sure but if they are 9 or 10 face then yeah, about that price, maybe as low as 700,000. And that's a locals website for locals.
The offerings here are in bad shape right now. As a foreigner the "HBT" bars (read forum please for locations) are very easy. Prices are something like one million 500 for a ST. Used to be much cheaper. But the number on offer is way wya down in quantity and quality from just a couple yrs ago. Clubs like Apocalypse Now are another spot to check out. The Go2 bar on Bui Vien after midnight is another. But don't come expecting anything close to Bangkok here.
Just noticed that you said you already paid these same girls that much before. HM, that's hard. They probably already expect that much.
Uncle Volodya
01-21-15, 12:22
Just noticed that you said you already paid these same girls that much before. HM, that's hard. They probably already expect that much.Yes but this was in Sinapore and Shanghai. The price scale is different in HMC, no?
I'm thinking of offering one of them $500 for 5 days LT, accompanying me to the seaside, and me picking up all the expenses (food, travel, lodging and maybe a gift or two). Do you think this is a reasonable offer?
PS: sorry I didn't see that you post #808. So I geuss I was only paying slightly above the goign rate in VN for those kind of girls? Ouch that is expensive.
No wonder one of them told me she regularlyy goes on Thailand for holiday and that everythign is so cheap there.
Thanks for taking thr time to reply.
Uncle V.
Geneva Guy
01-21-15, 21:15
Yes but this was in Sinapore and Shanghai. The price scale is different in HMC, no?
I'm thinking of offering one of them $500 for 5 days LT, accompanying me to the seaside, and me picking up all the expenses (food, travel, lodging and maybe a gift or two). Do you think this is a reasonable offer?
PS: sorry I didn't see that you post #808. So I geuss I was only paying slightly above the goign rate in VN for those kind of girls? Ouch that is expensive.
No wonder one of them told me she regularlyy goes on Thailand for holiday and that everythign is so cheap there.
Thanks for taking thr time to reply.
Uncle V.Hey,
I did that a couple months ago, brought a girl from HCMC to Singapore, paid the ticket, gave her $500 for 6 days and bought her a few gifts, took her to some of the sited, food and we stayed at a nice hotel. Now she is more of a GF than a P4P, but that worked out well.
GG
Uncle Volodya
01-23-15, 08:00
Thanks for your input on my first question guys.
I have another one. Because of my schedule I can only be in HMC in the first week of May. I know this is the beginning of the monsoon season. How hot is it? Is it bearable? It would be my first time in VN so I'd also like to see the sights with my girls.
Many thanks in advance for your help!
You-V.
NguyetLang
01-23-15, 14:43
Thanks for your input on my first question guys.
I have another one. Because of my schedule I can only be in HMC in the first week of May. I know this is the beginning of the monsoon season. How hot is it? Is it bearable? It would be my first time in VN so I'd also like to see the sights with my girls.
Many thanks in advance for your help!
UVIt starts to get hot in April with the hottest around July / August with high humidity. It is not fun to stay in HCM city all the time with that weather. There are many day trips that worth seeing and get you out of town. Vung Tau is a seaside town with many massage-hotel for 10 USD ticket and $50 USD per girl FS. The mangrove forest and see you Chi tunnels are also worthy day trips to see with your girl.
Hope you have a good time in VN.
Regards,
Peter
Does it make sense to get a cheap hotel room (and stay at a different, good hotel) to take girls to where they are allowed and nothing can be stolen? Also I would like to rent a motobike in Ho Chi Minh; reading reports I didn't quite get it, does it cost 5 dollars to get a local license or is it 5 dollar bribe if you get pulled over by police? Thanks.
Does it make sense to get a cheap hotel room (and stay at a different, good hotel) to take girls to where they are allowed and nothing can be stolen? Also I would like to rent a motobike in Ho Chi Minh; reading reports I didn't quite get it, does it cost 5 dollars to get a local license or is it 5 dollar bribe if you get pulled over by police? Thanks.Hi Sean,
The girl will know about a cheap hotel room. Just go where she suggests. They have condoms and what not there. It's safe and stress free.
As for the motor bike, the $5 is for bribes. Very few westerners have a license so the cops tend to pull you over. The will ask for a lot more than that. It gets into a game of how long you can be bothered to stand there arguing to how much you give them.
Personally I think that if you are visiting Saigon and driving a scooter you are nuts. It's not like the real world.
AmericanThief
01-26-15, 15:36
So can I use my AAA International Drivers License to ride a motorbike legally in HCMC? Should I leave a 50 k note inside for the cop (like Indonesia)? Thanks.
Funman13.Yes your AAA IDL is good here. Officer bribes are 200 k but they will ask for $100. Officers rarely speak english so they don't pull over foreigners as much. All this talk of bribes and motorbikes is getting carried away.
AlLostInSpace13
01-27-15, 07:25
Hello,
I'm planning a trip to hcmc, and I've started to rtff. While I'm still rtff, I want to post a question. While it's illegal in VN to be found in a hotel room with a VNese lady, and the hotel staff is suppose to report you to the police blah blah blah, would renting an airbnb apartment mitigate that problem -- because no hotel staff therefore no hotel staff to report you to the police?
Spaceman.
Geneva Guy
01-27-15, 13:03
Hello,
I'm planning a trip to hcmc, and I've started to rtff. While I'm still rtff, I want to post a question. While it's illegal in VN to be found in a hotel room with a VNese lady, and the hotel staff is suppose to report you to the police blah blah blah, would renting an airbnb apartment mitigate that problem -- because no hotel staff therefore no hotel staff to report you to the police?
SpacemanHmmm. Spaceman.
I have stayed in Hanoi (3-4 star hotel) and Haiphong (5 star hotel) with a VN GF with no problems. In fact she joined me for breakfast every morning, etc. All they have to provide is their I'd (as do I everywhere in VN) to the hotel front desk. As you know, there are lots of rules on the books. But sometimes they aren't enforced. And I suspect this is one of those.
GG
Hello,
I'm planning a trip to hcmc, and I've started to rtff. While I'm still rtff, I want to post a question. While it's illegal in VN to be found in a hotel room with a VNese lady, and the hotel staff is suppose to report you to the police blah blah blah, would renting an airbnb apartment mitigate that problem -- because no hotel staff therefore no hotel staff to report you to the police?
Spaceman.I think renting an apartment is too much work. There are short time hotels everywhere. All these places know what's up. You just cut a deal with hotel and leave when you want. I would bring a viet translator with you because you always want to assume they can't speak english.
Hi Sean,
As for the motor bike, the $5 is for bribes. Very few westerners have a license so the cops tend to pull you over. The will ask for a lot more than that. It gets into a game of how long you can be bothered to stand there arguing to how much you give them..Thanks for advice. I'll rent one in Nha Trang then.
In terms of nightlife, is Ho Chi Ming a happening on weekends type of place or parties to be found all week?
SteelBaton
01-29-15, 06:13
No, don't rent an airbnb for that reason. You can easily bring a Vietnamese back to your room anytime of day for a 2 star or 3 star hotel and you can even bring one to a 4 or 5 star if before 10:00 pm. BTW if the hotel thinks you are doing something wrong by bringing a lady to the wrong hotel at the wrong time. E. g. At midnight to a 5 star hotel, then they will just tell you so. I can't see why they would want to call the police or report you to the police unless you didn't comply with what they told you. The people are very commercial and they don't want the police in their hotel any more than you do.
Hello,
I'm planning a trip to hcmc, and I've started to rtff. While I'm still rtff, I want to post a question. While it's illegal in VN to be found in a hotel room with a VNese lady, and the hotel staff is suppose to report you to the police blah blah blah, would renting an airbnb apartment mitigate that problem -- because no hotel staff therefore no hotel staff to report you to the police?
Spaceman.
AlLostInSpace13
01-29-15, 06:32
No, don't rent an airbnb for that reason. You can easily bring a Vietnamese back to your room anytime of day for a 2 star or 3 star hotel and you can even bring one to a 4 or 5 star if before 10:00 pm. BTW if the hotel thinks you are doing something wrong by bringing a lady to the wrong hotel at the wrong time. E. g. At midnight to a 5 star hotel, then they will just tell you so. I can't see why they would want to call the police or report you to the police unless you didn't comply with what they told you. The people are very commercial and they don't want the police in their hotel any more than you do.I got it now. I started way too far in the past when I did my RTFF hehehe, so far back that bringing a girl to a hotel was taboo!
As I read on, I began to see sign of life! .
Spaceman.
AmericanThief
01-30-15, 10:28
Hello,
I'm planning a trip to hcmc, and I've started to rtff. While I'm still rtff, I want to post a question. While it's illegal in VN to be found in a hotel room with a VNese lady, and the hotel staff is suppose to report you to the police blah blah blah, would renting an airbnb apartment mitigate that problem -- because no hotel staff therefore no hotel staff to report you to the police?
Spaceman.Its also illegal to drive a motorbike without a helmet, drive on the wrong side of the road, and drive without a left side mirror and drive with more than 2 people and drive without a license, sell fake goods, and above all P4 P activities of all kind are illegal, also offering and taking bribes are illegal, but do the police do anything?? No.
And they sure as hell aren't going to enforce this hotel rule either.
AmericanThief
01-30-15, 13:57
The guy in the room above me died three nights ago, but they only found him yesterday. He was only 33 years old. They say he drank too much. He was found on the floor. The guy was huge, I can't imagine any amount of alcohol could cause sudden death unless it was the fake stuff, and then maybe. This is not the first time I've heard about young people dying after a night out drinking with no other explanation.
So I want to remind everyone to watch out for the fake booze. Specifically Jack Daniels and Smirnoff and home made vietnamese stuff. There is a lot of fake Jack Daniels in Saigon. Almost all the girlie bars serve it, and a lot of the PNL cafes like Hung Vy also serve the fake Jack Daniels. Smirnoff too is also fake at a lot of places. You can spot the Jack Daniels by checking for the production code printed on the bottle behind the front label. The Smirnoff is more difficult but usually it will not have a proper closure. If your drinking in girlie bars or sidewalk cafes stick to beer. If you want to drink, then go to expat places and sport bars. If you want a bottle in your room stick to franchise places like Circle K or CoOp Mart. Don't buy liquor from Vietnamese shops, beer is ok.
The fake stuff can kill you, its seriously toxic and can cause organ failure that leads to death.
Maybe this guy just had a heart attack, he was rather large and unfit, but still. Everyone, including his girlfriend keeps blaming the booze. So be careful and enjoy your time here.
LuvAsianTang
01-30-15, 14:10
Its also illegal to drive a motorbike without a helmet, drive on the wrong side of the road, and drive without a left side mirror and drive with more than 2 people and drive without a license, sell fake goods, and above all P4 P activities of all kind are illegal, also offering and taking bribes are illegal, but do the police do anything?? No.
And they sure as hell aren't going to enforce this hotel rule either.It seems that you can get out of just about anything with a 200 k dong note in vietnam, short of murder, that would probably be 2 million LOL. But then can you blame the poor cops? Their job is so hard having to stand for 30 minutes a day on some street writing tickets and after drinking a 6 pack of beer all day playing cards too. Life must suck as a police man in vietnam. (satire )
Just my 2000 dong, LAT.
AT,
WOW, you really shook me up with your post. I travel to many third-world countries around the world and never thought of this. My favorite drink is rum & coke as beer tends to bloat me. Rum is probably the easiest liquor to fake as it has no taste or flavor. One could substitute it with rubbing alcohol!
I will stick to beer from now on unless I know the bar. Thank buddy.
Funman13.
The guy in the room above me died three nights ago, but they only found him yesterday. He was only 33 years old. They say he drank too much. He was found on the floor. The guy was huge, I can't imagine any amount of alcohol could cause sudden death unless it was the fake stuff, and then maybe. This is not the first time I've heard about young people dying after a night out drinking with no other explanation.
So I want to remind everyone to watch out for the fake booze. Specifically Jack Daniels and Smirnoff and home made vietnamese stuff. There is a lot of fake Jack Daniels in Saigon. Almost all the girlie bars serve it, and a lot of the PNL cafes like Hung Vy also serve the fake Jack Daniels. Smirnoff too is also fake at a lot of places. You can spot the Jack Daniels by checking for the production code printed on the bottle behind the front label. The Smirnoff is more difficult but usually it will not have a proper closure. If your drinking in girlie bars or sidewalk cafes stick to beer. If you want to drink, then go to expat places and sport bars. If you want a bottle in your room stick to franchise places like Circle K or CoOp Mart. Don't buy liquor from Vietnamese shops, beer is ok.
The fake stuff can kill you, its seriously toxic and can cause organ failure that leads to death.
Maybe this guy just had a heart attack, he was rather large and unfit, but still. Everyone, including his girlfriend keeps blaming the booze. So be careful and enjoy your time here.
My normal travels takes me quite frequently into China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. I do know the places to visit to find freelancers. Manhattan in Shanghai, Wanchai area in HK, Beach CLub in KL. Etc.
First time in April I will be going to Vietnam. Specifically HCM City. For few days. I have made many, many extensive searches in the various forums for HCM to find clubs or places where to find FL's or places nearby my hotel where to get a good massage. But each time came up empty handed. By the way, I plan to stay in the Intercontinental Asiana on corner of Hai Ba Trung and LE Duan.
Do any of the locals know of any places nearby to the Intercontinental (or with a taxi ride) to find talent? I generally like to take the girl for overnight pleasure. Not sure it is allowed in the Vietnam 5-star hotels.
I really would appreciate some one pointing in the right direction.
Many thanks for your help. Stay safe.
Uncle Volodya
05-23-15, 05:41
Dear Colleagues,
I had a wonderful recent trip to Vietnam. The country is truly lovely, the people nice, and the history and culture fascinating. I just love the vibe of the place.
I did 3 days in HCM, followed by a 3 day trip to Hoi Ahn, and then back in HCM for 3 more days. The only downside was the hot weather. May May not be the best time to visit if you can't take the heat.
As far as hobby activities go I was actually visiting two lovely FLs that I had met while they were working in Shanghai (Manhattan) and Singapore (Impanema). I hooked up with the first one the first two nights I was there (she had to wait for her mom to fall asleep an the snuck out to meet me. Made me feel like a teenager LOL). After she left for Singapore (where she works and studies) I hooked up with the next girl and we went to Hoi Ahn together and spent a few more days in Singapore. This worked out great. Both girls were happy to see me and treated me like a Boy Friend that had come a long way to visit them. The sex was great and both were very affectionate and loving with me. I plan to meet both girls again and to follow the same strategy the next time I meet a winner in these bars in Singapore or Shanghai.
As I heard that many of the hotels are not girl friendly I booked a place on AirBnB. It worked out pretty well, though it was not the lap of luxury. It was in an old building, but great location right next door to the Vincom. My girl told me that in the future 3 or 4 star hotels are generally OK and do allow girls. Next time I will have her pick out a place for me or look for a nicer place on AirBnB in a new building like the Vincom center. We stayed at a normal hotel in Hoi Ahn. I told the friendly staff there that my companion was my wife and we had a fun time playing out that charade in that lovely and romantic little town.
As I was occupied with the girls I did not have all that much of a chance to check out the scene. I was able to get out my last night, as my Shanghai girl had already departed to Singapore for work. I tried Apocalypse Now, as it was close to where I was staying and had gotten some good reviews form ChelseaBill. I was not overly impressed with the quality on offer there. I'd compare it to the quality you'd find at a 2nd tier place in Shanghai such as Judy's -- nowhere near what you'd find ant Manhattan.
Maybe I had gotten spoiled by my VN beauties, but there really wasn't anyone I wanted to take home. One kind of cute girls was all over me and offered $150 for LT (coming down form an initial offer of $200). She was cute and I probably would have normally been all over her, I was pretty shagged out by then. My two girls are real lookers and I would have only taken a girl that was a real stunner that night. After you've been eating Fillet Mignon a plain old hamburger just does not hold all that much appeal. Hehe. I was actually more interested in getting home to watch the series finale of Mad Men than in the Apo girls.
I loved HCM and Vietnam in general. The food is great and the people are truly lovely. And like I said above that place has a really cool vibe to it. I'd love to spend more time there. One area I was a little disappointed was with the girls on the street. Don't get me wrong they are cute for sure! But not on the same level as the VN girls I have met in bars in Singapore or SH. I was expecting to see lots of stunners in the street or in the malls and that was not the case. You will see much hotter girls out and about in Bangkok or Singapore.
I've heard from others that VN is not the best mongering destination. But I do plan future trips. Most likely I will try to mix it up with my regular girls (and maybe one or tow more I'll meet in SH or Singapore) but this time leaving a bit more time to explore the scene. I thin FLs may be on offer at some of the clubs. I went out clubbing one night with my girl and her friends and saw some unattached hotties at Lush that I think may have been working the game. But as I was with my girl I did not have a chance to get any more info.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
I'm looking for something close to the tourist attractions and girl friendly. Am I better of getting an airbnb or staying at a hotel? Here are some guest friendly hotels that I found. Which area and hotel would you select?
http://www.guestfriendlyhotel.com/guest-friendly-hotel-ho-chi-minh-city/
I wanted to add for anyone going to Vietnam. Do research on your debit card before you get to Vietnam. What I mean by that is when I used my debit card. All withdraws were pulled out of my savings out. The machine did not give me the option where the withdraw would come from. Lucky, I had enough in my savings not to notice. But, I do wonder if I did not have a savings account. Would the ATM then withdraw from my check or not work at all. I guess I may never know. But for travel it might not be a bad idea to have some money in both accounts. I don't know if anyone else had this experience. But, I am guessing different banks and cards are different.
Also, if you can bring a lot of Dong with you instead of depending on ATMs. I recommend this. Because, of the BS limit of withdraws ect.
Hey guys,
Need some help on risky BBBJ's.
Touchy point that no one wants to go near, but can any veterans advise on what is best to do after a BBBJ to reduce the risk of any infections?
[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), wash with soap, antibacterial spray, listerine, alcohol swabs?
And how quickly should you start doing this? Immediately? Or within the house?
Any advise will be truly appreciated.
Hey guys,
Need some help on risky BBBJ's.
Touchy point that no one wants to go near, but can any veterans advise on what is best to do after a BBBJ to reduce the risk of any infections?
wash with soap, antibacterial spray, listerine, alcohol swabs?
Pretty humorous post Ppseeker really tickles me. Insert into pussy is what I normally do, do not worry you will survive, take a piddle then imediately wash with warm water and soap. Well I seriously doubt I would use any products you mentioned above LOL. They all sound dangerous to me. What you want to do is insure your nutrition is good, take some vitamin D3 and vitamin see, get your immune system boosted. Read the relevant threads on sexual safety, disregard the the hysterical Peter the repeaters. Lastly, relax and enjoy, do not worry, sex is meant to be enjoyable.
Pretty humorous post Ppseeker really tickles me. Insert into pussy is what I normally do, do not worry you will survive, take a piddle then imediately wash with warm water and soap. Well I seriously doubt I would use any products you mentioned above LOL. They all sound dangerous to me. What you want to do is insure your nutrition is good, take some vitamin D3 and vitamin see, get your immune system boosted. Read the relevant threads on sexual safety, disregard the the hysterical Peter the repeaters. Lastly, relax and enjoy, do not worry, sex is meant to be enjoyable.Thanks for the reply. Haha I know its kind of a LOL question but I want simple dummies guide to foolproof BBBJ's.
I love them but the risk seems to stop me from enjoying them as much.
Don't know if anyone out there has done much research into procedures. I know in Tokyo they use a super potent mouthwash, just wanted to know if there is something I could get to wash the "germs" away! Haha.
Thanks for the reply. Haha I know its kind of a LOL question but I want simple dummies guide to foolproof BBBJ's.
I love them but the risk seems to stop me from enjoying them as much.
Don't know if anyone out there has done much research into procedures. I know in Tokyo they use a super potent mouthwash, just wanted to know if there is something I could get to wash the "germs" away! Haha.Antibacterial spray, listerine, alcohol... ? On my dick? I don't think so.
I think most germs are going inside your dick through the urethra so if you want to clean that, be my guest LOL!
The only thing that reduces the riks is being circumcised. So if you're not you can pay a visit to a hospital maybe? Don't know if that service is available everywhere though.
Doing an overnight before heading to Siem Reap. Looking for some action near my hotel Duc Minh Hotel.
23/2 Hoang Viet, Tan Binh, Ho Chi Minh City.
NguyetLang
08-27-15, 14:55
Doing an overnight before heading to Siem Reap. Looking for some action near my hotel Duc Minh Hotel.
23/2 Hoang Viet, Tan Binh, Ho Chi Minh City.There are lots of massage parlors in Tan Binh. I would recommend De Nhat Khach San massage. You can check below link (hint: use google translate as needed).
Local slangs: tic=ticket, tip=(you should ask how much for a HJ or BJ etc.).
http://massage20k.com/massage-de-nhat/
Cheers,
AmericanThief
08-29-15, 04:13
Dear Colleagues,
I had a wonderful recent trip to Vietnam.
Both girls were happy to see me and treated me like a Boy Friend that had come a long way to visit them. The sex was great and both were very affectionate and loving with me.
Uncle V.And was this all for free just because they like you for who you are? They treated you like a boyfriend. Did you have to "take care" of them?
Wander Luster
09-05-15, 07:44
I'm going to work remotely in SEA for 4-6 months in January 2016. I've spent much time in there, especially the PH. I care more about find GFs than the hobby. I ten to fall to easy into hobby life when it's cheap and easy like the PH, but I'd rather do some "dating" IF I'm not getting blue balls during the proccess. Mostly, the PH and I guess Thailand it's pretty easy to find smart (a requirement) girls that put out by second date and are GF material. But I know HCM is much more "traditional" and wonder if that process sucks because of the "courting" required. Or, maybe HCM is modern enough now that it's not a problem.
"Girls" I'll date will be about 30: I'm late 40's, with a lot going for me that helps w / women.
What you guys could REALLLLY help with is pointing me to resources on this topic of finding a GF in Vietnam's bigger cities and how much it's just a cock tease if one's not willing to wait for 10 dates for anything to happen. Ultimately, I want a GF, but "courting" is not for me.
FYI: the "pick up artist websites" are pretty good for that, but there's not enough info. I wish people on here would use "reports of distinction" more. Since topics are not really arranged "threaded" here it takes a super long time to find what we're looking for. I guess I should also just try a search for "GF" and "Vietnam"! Enjoy the life.
Cheers,
Wander Luster.
Do any of the locals know of any places nearby to the Intercontinental (or with a taxi ride) to find talent? I generally like to take the girl for overnight pleasure. Not sure it is allowed in the Vietnam 5-star hotels.
I really would appreciate some one pointing in the right direction.
Many thanks for your help. Stay safe.IME the 5-star places try hard to keep out working girls. When I return at night after going out, security literally runs towards me until they realize that I don't have a girl with me. When I have had a girl come up, I registered her as my 2nd guest (which requires you to know her full VN name and they will likely take a copy of her ID when she comes). This girl was a normal GND girl, not working girl. There are girl friendly places though that seem to be more 3-star.
AmericanThief
09-06-15, 06:27
I'm going to work remotely in SEA for 4-6 months in January 2016. I've spent much time in there, especially the PH. I care more about find GFs than the hobby. I ten to fall to easy into hobby life when it's cheap and easy like the PH, but I'd rather do some "dating" IF I'm not getting blue balls during the proccess. Mostly, the PH and I guess Thailand it's pretty easy to find smart (a requirement) girls that put out by second date and are GF material. But I know HCM is much more "traditional" and wonder if that process sucks because of the "courting" required. Or, maybe HCM is modern enough now that it's not a problem.
"Girls" I'll date will be about 30: I'm late 40's, with a lot going for me that helps w / women.
What you guys could really help with is pointing me to resources on this topic of finding a GF in Vietnam's bigger cities and how much it's just a cock tease if one's not willing to wait for 10 dates for anything to happen. Ultimately, I want a GF, but "courting" is not for me.
FYI: the "pick up artist websites" are pretty good for that, but there's not enough info. I wish people on here would use "reports of distinction" more. Since topics are not really arranged "threaded" here it takes a super long time to find what we're looking for. I guess I should also just try a search for "GF" and "Vietnam"! Enjoy the life.
Cheers,
Wander Luster.In Vietnam all you have to do is put them on the payroll. Give them a monthly salary and they will be your GF. That's the way its done here if you want an attractive one, otherwise you'll be with the single mothers.
WildBillLewis
09-12-15, 23:23
Guidance from the Brotherhood please: I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip starting mid-January. I have drafted a plan that includes visits to Singapore, Indonesia (mostly likely five days each in Batam and Bali with a quick two day stop in Jakarta), Malaysia (mostly likely five days each in Kuching and Kota Kinabalu with a quick two day stop in Kuala Lumpur), Thailand (several locations in the south), Cambodia (Siem Reap, Sihanoukville and Phnom Penh for sure), Vietnam (tentatively two days in each of Saigon, Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue, Hanoi and three days in HaLong Bay for about 13 days in total, give or take a few depending.), Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines (Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay). Should be fun.
Having sketched out the plan and done a preliminary budget, I am now looking to refine and firm things up. I've been to Thailand, the Philippines, Hong Kong and Macau, but never to Vietnam. The place really intrigues me, and there is so much I want to see. Since this is the Vietnam forum, I was hoping to benefit from a little guidance from other experienced Vietnamese mongers. Although Saigon does seem to be the best place, by far, in Vietnam for mongering I'm not really keen on spending a lot of time in Saigon because of the heat and humidity. It's just not my thing. I love to get good and sweaty when I'm with a girl, but not so much when I'm girl hunting. I prefer beach locations, hence my interest in places like Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue, and HaLong Bay. The problem is, having looked at the reports here, it seems that the mongering scene is pretty limited outside of Saigon and to a lesser extent Hanoi. Even the massage parlors seem a little chaste.
I'd really appreciate in hearing suggestions from experienced mongers re: destinations in Vietnam that I should consider in order to make the Vietnamese portion of this trip a real success.
AmericanThief
09-26-15, 12:10
I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip Malaysia (mostly likely five days each in Kuching and Kota Kinabalu with a quick two day stop in Kuala Lumpur), What are you planning to do in Kota Kinabalu?
And is everything OK? Seriously, a 100 day trip sounds amazing but you're not going to do something when its all over, are you? The depression after something like this could be rough.
WildBillLewis
10-09-15, 15:19
What are you planning to do in Kota Kinabalu?
And is everything ok? Seriously, a 100 day trip sounds amazing but you're not going to do something when its all over, are you? The depression after something like this could be rough.Based on the advice received so far, the thing I am most likely to do In Kota Kinabalu (and Kuching. And pretty much all of Malaysia except maybe Kuala Lumpur) is skip it and spend more time in places where the girls can spent time chasing me (and my wallet) instead of me spending time chasing them.
As for what my mental state will be when it's over, that will be interesting. On vera, as they say in French. I've been to Asia three times for extended (month long) trips, the last of which involved a month fully invested in Pattaya (which I enjoyed immensely) but I've never before been on one of this length or breadth. It will be interesting!
Based on the advice received so far, the thing I am most likely to do In Kota Kinabalu (and Kuching. And pretty much all of Malaysia except maybe Kuala Lumpur) is skip it and spend more time in places where the girls can spent time chasing me (and my wallet) instead of me spending time chasing them.
Not so sure you will get the same return from the vietnamese wallet chasers as in Pattaya.
I don't say Thailand is based on P4 P But it represents a good portion of Entertainment for those into it. Vietnam is not the same.
WildBillLewis
10-10-15, 16:49
Not so sure you will get the same return from the vietnamese wallet chasers as in Pattaya.
I don't say Thailand is based on P4 P But it represents a good portion of Entertainment for those into it. Vietnam is not the same.I've been to Thailand twice, both times for a month. The first time I sampled Bangkok (two weeks), Phuket (one week) and Khao Lak (one week). The last time (about a year ago now), I spent the entire 28 days in Pattaya (and chronicled the experience in a series of posts). About two years ago, I also spent a month in the Phillipines (Manila, Subic, Angeles and a few other places). For mongering purposes, Thailand is awesome and Pattaya, at its apex, is other-worldly.
If I was given a month to live and was obliged to spend it mongering in only one place, Pattaya would be the place. But I think (hope) I have a bit more time than that, so I'm looking to sample other destinations in the next few years in Asia, Africa and Latin America (and the Ukraine if it would just settle down). In Asia, Indonesia, and particularly Jakarta, currently sits at the top of my "hit next" list. Other Southeast Asian countries, Vietnam included, are hovering on the borderline of inclusion and exclusion. Since I've yet to hear anything that would draw me to Malaysia, it is probably now off the list.
Fast Eddie 48
10-10-15, 19:36
Based on the advice received so far, the thing I am most likely to do In Kota Kinabalu (and Kuching. And pretty much all of Malaysia except maybe Kuala Lumpur) is skip it and spend more time in places where the girls can spent time chasing me (and my wallet) instead of me spending time chasing them.
As for what my mental state will be when it's over, that will be interesting. On vera, as they say in French. I've been to Asia three times for extended (month long) trips, the last of which involved a month fully invested in Pattaya (which I enjoyed immensely) but I've never before been on one of this length or breadth. It will be interesting!To Wild Bill.
There is many thing to do in KK not so great for mongering, you can climb the Mt Kinabalu beach here is nice, diving or snorkel and the seafood is great but one week is good enough.
Fast eddie 48.
I will be in Ho Chi Minh during tet holiday 2016. What can I expect to find concerning the night life and finding girls, pro and non-pros.
MutantChicken
11-10-15, 19:27
I will be in Ho Chi Minh during tet holiday 2016. What can I expect to find concerning the night life and finding girls, pro and non-pros.Ghost town. Some places will be open but with 1/10 staff levels, and then you will be expected to give extra lixi (lucky money). But expect very little.
I will be in Ho Chi Minh during tet holiday 2016. What can I expect to find concerning the night life and finding girls, pro and non-pros.Probably the worst time to be mongering as all the WG not from Saigon will be home. Even the local Saigonese WG will be spending a lot of time with family so the only ones still operating are those that want to make last bundle of cash so they can spend it on their family.
Ghost town. Some places will be open but with 1/10 staff levels, and then you will be expected to give extra lixi (lucky money). But expect very little.I am considering taking a side trip to maybe Cambodia, Thailand, Mala, ect. Any suggestions. I have been to Bangkok, Pattaya and Chang mai, thought something different would be nice.
DaveHStudios
11-15-15, 19:20
Hello,
I'm travelling to Cambodia and Vietnam this December and would like to spend a night or two on a secluded beach in a bungalow with a girl. Does anyone here know where a good beach would be to take a girl and also if its better to go through an agency or if there are girls available in nearby cities?
Thanks a lot.
MutantChicken
11-16-15, 03:37
Hello,
I'm travelling to Cambodia and Vietnam this December and would like to spend a night or two on a secluded beach in a bungalow with a girl. Does anyone here know where a good beach would be to take a girl and also if its better to go through an agency or if there are girls available in nearby cities?
Thanks a lot.Most agencies are scam. Charging you 5 x what a similar girl would be worth at local rates. The decent beaches eg nha trang, phu quoc don't have large populations with which to draw a companion so you best bet would be to make friends with some girls in HCMC/ Hanoi etc the offer them free food accommodation / holiday in exchange for their companionship. Plus the other thing is why would you risk being stuck with some girl for 2-3 days that you haven't tested compatibility with.
LukeSkywalker
11-29-15, 22:12
I need to use Wechat or similar software and to order UBER drivers etc.
What kinds of phones do I need?
Can you buy local SIM cards for iPhone or Android phones in Vietnam?
Any advise will be appreciated.
I need to use Wechat or similar software and to order UBER drivers etc.
What kinds of phones do I need?
Can you buy local SIM cards for iPhone or Android phones in Vietnam?
Any advise will be appreciated.All of them. Uber is catching on here. Uber has an app, that's what people use. They have local Vietnamese versions too.
Yes you can buy local SIM cards very easily and cheaply. Bring your phone so they give you correct size sim.
Ghost town. Some places will be open but with 1/10 staff levels, and then you will be expected to give extra lixi (lucky money). But expect very little.Thank you for posting guys. I am also depending on my work planning on coming January or Feb. I always try to plan for everything. I forgot about the holidays. That·s a trip killer right there.
Team,
Has anyone here ever did a visa on arrival? I wonder how long it will take. I am guessing two hours because of a line ect. It is a shame they make you state the month you will be there. Too bad they can't have a visa open for 3-6 months.
Geneva Guy
12-01-15, 13:41
Team,
Has anyone here ever did a visa on arrival? I wonder how long it will take. I am guessing two hours because of a line ect. It is a shame they make you state the month you will be there. Too bad they can't have a visa open for 3-6 months.When I apply here in USA, I can apply for 1, 3, 6 or 12 months and single entry or multiple entry visa. I plan ahead cause never know about waiting for visa on arrival there.
GG.
Team,
Has anyone here ever did a visa on arrival? I wonder how long it will take. I am guessing two hours because of a line ect. It is a shame they make you state the month you will be there. Too bad they can't have a visa open for 3-6 months.I always use visa on arrival. For an extra $10 they met me at the gate and walked me through immigration. It took about five minutes and was much faster then going through the regular lines.
Team,
Has anyone here ever did a visa on arrival? I wonder how long it will take. I am guessing two hours because of a line ect. It is a shame they make you state the month you will be there. Too bad they can't have a visa open for 3-6 months.There have been changes to visa laws. Many countries (use google) don't need to get a visa upfront anymore if you stay less than 2 weeks. You just need to show your onward ticket. If you want to stay longer a single entry visa can be obtained on arrival but you need A LETTER from a visa agent (again all on google). Waiting times can be anything from 15 minutes to 1. 5 hours. If you don't have a passport photo immigration will squeeze you for a few extra $. Otherwise, as GG mentions, get 1, 3 6 or 12 months at Vietnamese embassies.
FreebieFan
12-15-15, 07:55
I always use visa on arrival. For an extra $10 they met me at the gate and walked me through immigration. It took about five minutes and was much faster then going through the regular lines.The regularl ines suck. Last two times I arrived after 9 pm just behind a couple of planes from France and China. Maybe 2 hours to wait. There has to be a better way, a more efficient way.
What is an "FJ"?
It's not listed in the terms and acronyms.
What is an "FJ"?
It's not listed in the terms and acronyms.Funny, yeah. It just means FS, full service. That seems to be one that Singaporeans say, it's common on Sammy Boy Forrum for example, a Singaporean sex site similar to this one. Stands for fuck job. They have other similar-but-different terms, for example they often say saloons instead of salons. I'm from the US, and here a saloon is the Wild West style local bar, the one with swinging doors where the cowboys come in and have gunfights, with an upright piano playing that old style music, and a table in the corner with guys in cowboy hats and guns on their holsters playing poker.
AmericanThief
12-31-15, 18:37
This is what I'm talking about. This happened yesterday.
http://video.vnexpress.net/xa-hoi/hon-60-chan-dai-mac-khieu-dam-phuc-vu-khach-han-o-sai-gon-3336232.html
by the way, the neon sign in Korean reads phonetically: Mo-dael or Model
LukeSkywalker
01-01-16, 13:49
A cheap Android phone has made my travel around HCM city so much easier. No more hassle with cab drivers and their grimy and smelly cabs.
Just search for the pick up and destination, specifying the correct district and the drivers can find you quickly and take you there with the route in the GPS. No more driving around the scenic route just to jack up the rate. Most of my rides are less then 60 K which is about $2. 5, all quickly charged to my account with 10% tip, no haggling with cash.
The Uber drivers in central area said they make around 1.5 Million dong a day. Subtracting Uber 20% cut, gas ect. They clear about 500 K a day or about 15 mil dong a month, which is 3 X the salary of government VIP chauffeurs. So viva free market.
This time my visit is so less stressful with Uber drivers.
All of them. Uber is catching on here. Uber has an app, that's what people use. They have local Vietnamese versions too.
Yes you can buy local SIM cards very easily and cheaply. Bring your phone so they give you correct size sim.
Hi guys,
While I was vacationing in HCMC, a friend suggested this app for me. It's called Grab Taxi. It's very similar to Uber except you don't have to pay through your credit card. It has an option for a taxi, mid size car (like uber) or a Xe Om. It's stupid cheap and very reliable.
FriendlyPlanet
01-01-16, 21:24
I always use visa on arrival. For an extra $10 they met me at the gate and walked me through immigration. It took about five minutes and was much faster then going through the regular lines.Mysons3- which visa on arrival service do you used that offers the walk through immigration? Definitely worth the difference- I've waited for hours at the VOA office, but getting visas at my local Vietnamese embassy is twice the price, and takes a long time.
Friendly.
NguyetLang
01-03-16, 15:55
Hi guys,
While I was vacationing in HCMC, a friend suggested this app for me. It's called Grab Taxi. It's very similar to Uber except you don't have to pay through your credit card. It has an option for a taxi, mid size car (like uber) or a Xe Om. It's stupid cheap and very reliable.My votes also go to this App.
Uber is also great AND they also take cash if you don't want to use credit card.
Viva free market is right on!
Arrived in Hanoi a week ago and upon arrival was issued a visa. There were no declaration forms or other paperwork given out on the Vietnam Airlines flight and the flight attendants told me there was none for entering the country. Upon leaving today from Saigon, after going thru security I was asked how much cash I had on me and told them $ 6,000 US. I was then escorted into an interview room and they counted all my money and told me that any amount over $ 5,000 had to be declared upon arrival. I explained to them I was not aware of this and would of declared how much money I had with me if I had been aware of it. They accepted my explanation, gave me a warning, and let me go. I was impressed with how professional they handled the situation. If this had been a Latin American country on some weird infraction I would of been out some cash. I also upon reading the declaration form I brought in more alcohol then allowed. Headed to Singapore in a few hours and am wondering if I'm going to have to declare the chewing gum I have with me!
Mysons3- which visa on arrival service do you used that offers the walk through immigration? Definitely worth the difference- I've waited for hours at the VOA office, but getting visas at my local Vietnamese embassy is twice the price, and takes a long time.
Friendly.Sorry friendly,
I use Vietnam-Evisa.net. After I applied for the visa they sent me a message and asked if I wanted them to escort me through immigration for $10. They then met me at the gate and took me to immigration. They have a special window so I didn't have to wait in any line. Probably took less than 15 minutes.
Best.
Hi there,
Does anybody know if I can purchase Oral Jelly in HCM and if so where?
Many thanks.
Elmer.
Pipe Layer99
01-15-16, 17:04
Mysons3- which visa on arrival service do you used that offers the walk through immigration? Definitely worth the difference- I've waited for hours at the VOA office, but getting visas at my local Vietnamese embassy is twice the price, and takes a long time.
Friendly.I arrived with all my documents prepared. I walked up and I was the 2nd person in line. I gave my paperwork to the lady, paid the $25 fee (they asked for USD), and took a seat. They called me in less than 15 minutes and I was on my way.
FYI. Some European countries no longer need a visa. You lucky bastards. You will have to look it up to see if your country is on the list.
Pipe Layer99
01-15-16, 17:09
Hi guys,
While I was vacationing in HCMC, a friend suggested this app for me. It's called Grab Taxi. It's very similar to Uber except you don't have to pay through your credit card. It has an option for a taxi, mid size car (like uber) or a Xe Om. It's stupid cheap and very reliable.Appreciate the info. However, there are tons of taxis everywhere.
Just have to get on the correct side of the street. It helps if you know which direction you want to go in.
I only used Vinasun (white) and Mai Linh (green).
Appreciate the info. However, there are tons of taxis everywhere.
Just have to get on the correct side of the street. It helps if you know which direction you want to go in.
I only used Vinasun (white) and Mai Linh (green).It sounds like you were in busy areas where it's true there are taxis everywhere, in district 1 for example. But there are surely areas of the city and smaller streets where just standing on the street and catching a taxi is not that easy, and more so in the wee hours. I've been in situations where I had my bags ready to go on a trip, stand on the street to catch a taxi, and none come for 15 minutes.
Of course you can CALL a taxi, one of the ones you mentioned. Almost any business (hotel, restaurant, bar, shop, etc.) will have those phone numbers handy.
Also, Uber and Grab have one great benefit of being MUCH cheaper than normal taxis.
So it's not as if it's useless info.
I was very skeptical myself at first, since to me taxis here seem quite cheap compared to in our countries. Then I started hearing of friends taking Uber or Grab for ridiculously low fares. I used it myself just twice, and it was fine. I don't' need to use taxis often though, I have a motorbike.
You should give it a try next time, see what you think.
LukeSkywalker
01-20-16, 11:19
The best advantage with UBER and GRABTAXI is the drivers' IDs, routes and fares are all recorded in your iphone and their systems, so drivers are not likely to do something stupid, rob, cheat or be rude to you. I give UBER drivers automatic 10% tip. UBER drivers have all been courteous and professional, unlike the stupid, rude and anonymous taxi drivers who hassle me for tips every time.
Also the expenses are recorded in your credit cards for business purposes.
I remember UBER drivers telling me they charge 11 K VnD per Km plus driving time, compared to 18 K vnD for other taxis. I took many UBER rides from district 1 to the love hotels in district 10. The fares were about 55 K to 70 K VnD, about the price of a bowl of beef Pho soup. I took a ride on a moto om on the same route, the drivers said their standard rate is 40 K VnD. I hate having my ass hanging out on those motos in that crazy traffic.
I have not tried but GRAB TAXI is used more by local people and they charge even lower rates than UBER.
I was on a highway way outside HCMC, near the Japanese AMATA industrial complex, where there were no taxis in sight, but an UBER driver picked up my request within 1 minute, and showed up within 5.
UBER and GRABTAXI will decimate the old sleazy taxi companies, who usually kiss ass, bribe and kick back to city officials for their licenses.
It sounds like you were in busy areas where it's true there are taxis everywhere, in district 1 for example. But there are surely areas of the city and smaller streets where just standing on the street and catching a taxi is not that easy, and more so in the wee hours. I've been in situations where I had my bags ready to go on a trip, stand on the street to catch a taxi, and none come for 15 minutes.
Of course you can CALL a taxi, one of the ones you mentioned. Almost any business (hotel, restaurant, bar, shop, etc.) will have those phone numbers handy.
Also, Uber and Grab have one great benefit of being MUCH cheaper than normal taxis.
So it's not as if it's useless info.
I was very skeptical myself at first, since to me taxis here seem quite cheap compared to in our countries. Then I started hearing of friends taking Uber or Grab for ridiculously low fares. I used it myself just twice, and it was fine. I don't' need to use taxis often though, I have a motorbike.
You should give it a try next time, see what you think.
FriendlyPlanet
01-27-16, 15:52
I arrived with all my documents prepared. I walked up and I was the 2nd person in line. I gave my paperwork to the lady, paid the $25 fee (they asked for USD), and took a seat. They called me in less than 15 minutes and I was on my way.You were very lucky, then. I've always have all my documents prepared, and have waited between 20 - 90 minutes. The average over 5 arrivals has been close to an hour, though several of those trips were on a weekend where I was arriving Friday night.
Still would love to find a service that would walk me through- I'd pay extra for that.
Friendly.
FriendlyPlanet
01-27-16, 15:53
Sorry friendly,
I use Vietnam-Evisa.net. After I applied for the visa they sent me a message and asked if I wanted them to escort me through immigration for $10. They then met me at the gate and took me to immigration. They have a special window so I didn't have to wait in any line. Probably took less than 15 minutes.
Best.Thanks! I'll check it out in March.
Though I did just look at their website, and under visa fees, they say $23/person for fast track, or $40/person for VIP fast track (includes customs, which is useless- never a line there). Since we'll be a party of 4, that would be $92 to save the time at the counter- a lot more than $10. Maybe I'll just fill out the normal application and see if they give me the $10 offer...
Friendly.
FriendlyPlanet
01-27-16, 16:00
Arrived in Hanoi a week ago and upon arrival was issued a visa. There were no declaration forms or other paperwork given out on the Vietnam Airlines flight and the flight attendants told me there was none for entering the country. Upon leaving today from Saigon, after going thru security I was asked how much cash I had on me and told them $ 6,000 US. I was then escorted into an interview room and they counted all my money and told me that any amount over $ 5,000 had to be declared upon arrival. I explained to them I was not aware of this and would of declared how much money I had with me if I had been aware of it. They accepted my explanation, gave me a warning, and let me go. I was impressed with how professional they handled the situation. If this had been a Latin American country on some weird infraction I would of been out some cash. I also upon reading the declaration form I brought in more alcohol then allowed. Headed to Singapore in a few hours and am wondering if I'm going to have to declare the chewing gum I have with me!Surfer- gum is acceptable through Singapore customs, as long as it's for "personal consumption only". In fact, you can buy gum in the drugstores in Singapore, but have to go to the pharmacy counter, and show your ID, which gets written down in a book (in case they find the gum stuck under a table later).
Cigarettes are limited to one pack, which must be open.
Friendlyp.
Thanks! I'll check it out in March.
Though I did just look at their website, and under visa fees, they say $23/person for fast track, or $40/person for VIP fast track (includes customs, which is useless- never a line there). Since we'll be a party of 4, that would be $92 to save the time at the counter- a lot more than $10. Maybe I'll just fill out the normal application and see if they give me the $10 offer...
Friendly.I've used them a few times and they send me special deals all the time. The last one was 50% off. Maybe that's why I pay so little. The first time I just ordered the visa and later they sent me an e-mail with the walk through immigration offer. Sure is a heck of a lot cheaper then what I pay to get into China. Good luck with your trip. I'm off to Hing Komg next.
LifeIsABeach
01-31-16, 05:19
Has anyone tried DIA as there are some quite hot Viet women there and what was the outcome?
Asian Lover Oz
02-07-16, 05:20
Its very different using dating sites for Viet compared to DIA Philippines.
I met 3 or 4 from Viet Cupid (paid site) and they are all super conservative, long term GF / marriage material (eg the last one brings her sister along to watch over the date etc).
If you are after quick and easy don't bother with the dating sites just use the other resources here to find your pay for play.
If you are staying there longer term then dating site will probably give you access to some stunningly gorgeous, traditional ladies. I'm very tempted with the last one I met to pursue further. Lovely girl working in the bank, just worried she is so conservative I may not be able to deal with that aspect.
Has anyone tried DIA as there are some quite hot Viet women there and what was the outcome?
LukeSkywalker
02-21-16, 08:05
Dateinasia is free site, now requiring high-resolution pictures. It shows portraits of quite a few good-looking girls in Vietnam in real pics, not the heavily touched up pics shown in escort and massage sites.
Unlike Filipinas and Thais, Viet girls, seem to play very hard games however. It's difficult to meet them, then it may take a long time to get into their skirts, beyond the short times tourists can spend at location. By the time you can take their clothes off, their bodies may not look and feel attractive enough for good sex. Even with multiple full nude pictures, most of the internet girls show up looking far chunkier and cruder than I expected. I got erections but could not even come with some of these girls.
The best venues would be strip clubs, where guys can see the girls in full nude, squeeze their bodies to check out the merchandise, have 'meaningful' conversations to check their personalities and negotiate to set prices, services and time frames, which have been done for decades all over in Thailand and the Philippines. Too bad Vietnam has always banned strip clubs, and China has recently cracked down on karaoke joints and saunas that show girls for sex.
Sex is a strategic commodity critical to the livelihood of our citizens, no less thanoil. Perhaps we should vote for our next president who would look for countries with weapons of mass anti-erection, and send in our troops to correct their attitudes. Hehe.
Its very different using dating sites for Viet compared to DIA Philippines.
I met 3 or 4 from Viet Cupid (paid site) and they are all super conservative, long term GF / marriage material (eg the last one brings her sister along to watch over the date etc).
If you are after quick and easy don't bother with the dating sites just use the other resources here to find your pay for play.
If you are staying there longer term then dating site will probably give you access to some stunningly gorgeous, traditional ladies. I'm very tempted with the last one I met to pursue further. Lovely girl working in the bank, just worried she is so conservative I may not be able to deal with that aspect.
AmericanThief
02-22-16, 00:48
If you are staying there longer term then dating site will probably give you access to some stunningly gorgeous, traditional ladies.Do you really think stunningly gorgeous girls are spending time on dating sites because they can't meet guys in their day too day life. Say there are some stunning gorgeous girls on a dating site, can you imagine the competition and number of messages she receives daily, hourly, weekly? Most girls on these sites can't meet a guy in real life because they are average girls, and the few that are attractive get over 1,000 PMs a week from men all over the world.
MutantChicken
04-09-16, 15:39
For those who don't know 30 April is reunification day in VN, so from the start of the month till the 3 oth there is and has been more police checks on crime and vice related activities. I have seen whole streets closed down of all its cafe Om, I have had girls from hottoc tell me they will be relocating to less targeted areas. As it seems certain areas have been selected as areas to be more heavily enforced. I have been warned by the pimp I know that certain areas for online girls should be avoided though I don't know how much truth there is to his warnings however I will be avoiding those areas myself. Today I went to a totally different area I had mentioned in my previous reports. I was going to my favorite shop where there are 4-5 pretty girls who will generally give you a BBBJCIM for 130 k, unfortunately it was closed, not sure the reasons, but there was a few other shops opened. I spotted a real beauty. Def a 7.5, 23 yrs old and upon closer inspection I found out she has a great set of firm B + cups, and a booty as well. Her technique was OK, not great but the annoying thing was when I wanted to suckle her breasts she would ask for a tip and then when I would ask about something else she would say how much extra. I just told her I'm not interested and she can just do a regular job, however there are certain techniques one can use to change this girls attitude, I didn't just accept her demands for more money and show to her I was some desperate carrot head, neither I just refuse her and then she thinks I'm just cheap. So after my discussion with her we were happy she gave me her number and said she will serve me better next time. Whilst I was sitting with her I saw a strange guy do a drive by staring at the girls. He was clearly a foreigner, I had thought maybe a Malaysian or Taiwanese as there are many factories near this area. He wore a full face helmet and was dressed in a non local way. But he was gone as quickly as he came so I thought not much of it.
I then decided to check out another shop I had been to in the past that has a few attractive girls, I went in with a tall spinner with a cups, here she was very hard working, as I had already a BJ not 10 min earlier it was hard for me to cum but I finally did fingering her hairless pussy, this girl was prob a 6.7 in looks. Whilst waiting for the girl I noticed the foreigner from earlier sitting on his bike, I wasn't sure if he was coming in or was leaving so I asked one of the girls if the white guy had come in she said yes. Now that I had a closer look and more time to observe, I could see that he rode a older wave IE a cheap bike, he had a beat up full face helmet, he was prob 5-10 kilo overweight so not obese but not slim in shape, I saw wisps of blonde / light brown hair, I couldn't see his face but I would say he was in his 50's, what was telling was the clothes he wore, a worn out short sleeved short and khaki pants, both heavily wrinkled. . This guy just screamed of low status like just on a pension who needed to supplement it with extra work. The girls were now busy so I couldn't ask who he went with and whether the girls like that white guys go there, but I did get the comment that a few white guys occasionally come to this local area, usually taken by someone.
Gentleman Travel
04-21-16, 15:37
Hi, I might be heading to Vietnam for a couple of weeks on a consulting gig.
Problem is, I will be in a small city (Quang Ngai. Population 100,000).
So I am concerned there will not be much P4 P action there, without the anonymity of a big city.
It sounds like MP are everywhere and maybe with a happy ending, but that is not really my thing.
I like a girl in my room for FS, preferably over night.
Even better, sponsoring a semi-pro or non-pro, for $XXX to be my girlfriend for the week or two.
Is this possible in small cities? I have never been to VN or even Asia.
Also, am I correct in translating prices as $20 - $40 USD for full service?
I heard Vietnam was cheap, but that is amazing!
Also. Mutant Chicken, your mailbox is full and I would like to PM you.
Thanks,
GT.
Try a taxi driver. Just mimic what you want because they don't speak English. Sometimes they can be helpful.
Hi, I might be heading to Vietnam for a couple of weeks on a consulting gig.
Problem is, I will be in a small city (Quang Ngai. Population 100,000).
So I am concerned there will not be much P4 P action there, without the anonymity of a big city.
It sounds like MP are everywhere and maybe with a happy ending, but that is not really my thing.
I like a girl in my room for FS, preferably over night.
Even better, sponsoring a semi-pro or non-pro, for $XXX to be my girlfriend for the week or two.
Is this possible in small cities? I have never been to VN or even Asia.
Also, am I correct in translating prices as $20 - $40 USD for full service?
I heard Vietnam was cheap, but that is amazing!
Also. Mutant Chicken, your mailbox is full and I would like to PM you.
Thanks,
GT..
Ex In Nang
04-22-16, 06:25
Hi, I might be heading to Vietnam for a couple of weeks on a consulting gig.
Problem is, I will be in a small city (Quang Ngai. Population 100,000).
So I am concerned there will not be much P4 P action there, without the anonymity of a big city.
It sounds like MP are everywhere and maybe with a happy ending, but that is not really my thing.
I like a girl in my room for FS, preferably over night.
Even better, sponsoring a semi-pro or non-pro, for $XXX to be my girlfriend for the week or two.
Is this possible in small cities? I have never been to VN or even Asia.
Also, am I correct in translating prices as $20 - $40 USD for full service?
I heard Vietnam was cheap, but that is amazing!
Also. Mutant Chicken, your mailbox is full and I would like to PM you.
Thanks,
GT.Quang Ngai isn't that bad. It should have a decent amount of action. You'll get it for cheap in such a small city too. My advice would be to sign up on Vietnamcupid or Asaindating, pay the $25 fee, and meet a "normal" girl for your stay there. You might get lucky. But I doubt you'll find a girl to stay in your hotel the whole trip, unless she's above 30. Young Vietnamese girls live with their families until they're married and can rarely sleep over unless they're a modern, city girl.
Gentleman Travel
04-27-16, 20:54
Quang Ngai isn't that bad. It should have a decent amount of action. You'll get it for cheap in such a small city too. My advice would be to sign up on Vietnamcupid or Asaindating, pay the $25 fee, and meet a "normal" girl for your stay there. You might get lucky. But I doubt you'll find a girl to stay in your hotel the whole trip, unless she's above 30. Young Vietnamese girls live with their families until they're married and can rarely sleep over unless they're a modern, city girl.Thanks for the advice! Sounds good.
Sure I get that a girl might not be able to stay overnight. I would settle for a dinner date and a vigorous fuck afterward.
Is it okay for girls to date an older foreigner? Or do I have to arrange to meet her in my room mostly for P4 P? Not that that's a bad thing.
My main thing is I would like to set up one main relationship for the duration, rather than going out hunting every night. Not that some variety would be unwelcome!
YellowPaul
05-22-16, 16:04
Are KTV's mainly for locals or Japanese / Koreans?
I would not mind trying one if the prices are clearly explained and their is a take out price given before hand? It's my first time in HCMC and and I did not want to get ripped off.
AmericanThief
06-03-16, 02:48
Are KTV's mainly for locals or Japanese / Koreans?
I would not mind trying one if the prices are clearly explained and their is a take out price given before hand? It's my first time in HCMC and and I did not want to get ripped off.Everyone with money is welcome. The prices will never be clear. I've talked to these girls online but never gone myself.
From what the girls told me there is no take out. They say you have to go back and build rapport, give gifts take her and a friend out and then she might go with you if youre nice and put her on a monthly payroll.
I would like to find out for myself though and I know where there is a street full of them.
Message me when your get to HCMC. I might be able to go on a Friday or Saturday.
Wander Luster
06-04-16, 17:27
I'd say this is not the right road to go down. If you want to "mix and mingle" and are from the "West" then find the NICE bars near backpacking area. Those "hostess girls" are better. I've been in HCMC 2.5 months now.
If you're going to "build rapport" may as well play sugar daddy or pay nothing via a dating webiste. Just be clear you are looking for someone modern and NOT traditional. Traditional in VN is like USA in 1920s.
Most beautiful girls in Asia are here. Problem is if you're just here <5 days the ways of meeting and scoring are a bit complex.
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Everyone with money is welcome. The prices will never be clear. I've talked to these girls online but never gone myself.
From what the girls told me there is no take out. They say you have to go back and build rapport, give gifts take her and a friend out and then she might go with you if youre nice and put her on a monthly payroll.
I would like to find out for myself though and I know where there is a street full of them.
Message me when your get to HCMC. I might be able to go on a Friday or Saturday.
Do you really think stunningly gorgeous girls are spending time on dating sites because they can't meet guys in their day too day life. Say there are some stunning gorgeous girls on a dating site, can you imagine the competition and number of messages she receives daily, hourly, weekly? Most girls on these sites can't meet a guy in real life because they are average girls, and the few that are attractive get over 1,000 PMs a week from men all over the world.Makes perfect sense to me, logical and rational. Now, I know why I never bothered with those dating sites, and probably never will. My reason: I don't live there and I don't speak the language. Thanks for chiming in.
Member #4178
09-16-16, 12:05
Just spend a few days here some of my observation.
1. Big room monthly price is 300 USD including electricity. Same as Pattaya cheaper the Bangkok.
2. ridiculously cheap transport price using UBER. 10000 dong for 4 km for UBER moto. Also used Uber Car.
3. Pretty ladies. Not sure how well I will be at Viet Cupid.
4. Internet everywhere and cheap including 3 G mobile and SIM.
5. Should take care with food chain some add VAT or serve poor. Rarely happen in Thailand.
I will know soon about Dating girls.
NguyetLang
09-17-16, 07:37
Is it okay for girls to date an older foreigner? Or do I have to arrange to meet her in my room mostly for P4 P? Not that that's a bad thing.
My main thing is I would like to set up one main relationship for the duration, rather than going out hunting every night. Not that some variety would be unwelcome!Actually older westerners rank highly as desirable mates for ambitious Vietnamese girls. My current dates confirmed so. The following are current ranking of desirable mates for young girls on upward mobility. The common theme is "those who can help their success with no desire for long lasting relationship. ".
1. Local rich and powerful men who can provide them with money and opportunities.
2. Older westerners with money. An immigration visa hope would be nice bonus.
3. Vietnamese expats (Viet Kieu) with money to spend.
The money thing is relative and cheap by US standards. Keep in mind that 500 USD may be full month salary for a family here. The so-called "put her on payroll" kinda give you an idea of a typical arrangement.
Enjoy VN.
AmericanThief
09-17-16, 11:51
Just spend a few days here some of my observation.
3. Pretty ladies. Not sure how well I will be at Viet Cupid.
5. Should take care with food chain some add VAT or serve poor. Rarely happen in Thailand.
I will know soon about Dating girls.The food chain here is polluted, use cation.
Vietcupid is full of women who want to get married to a foreigner. Most are a bit desperate or just focused and dead set on getting married. You will be put through the interview process and shit tested a lot. If you want to date vietnamese girls then use social networks with girls looking to make new friends, meet foreign men, have a good time but not ready to marry yet. All the top social sites are very popular here as well as simple chat apps that have GPS to see who is near you. The best way to get the girl you really want is to meet them in cafes & clubs. They are pretty welcoming to foreign men and always like the opportunity to practice English. Tell them you can teach them and they will stay with you. Good luck. I don't fancy Pattaya myself and done with Thailand after 9 trips.
Member #4178
09-17-16, 13:34
If you want to date vietnamese girls then use social networks with girls looking to make new friends, meet foreign men, have a good time but not ready to marry yet. All the top social sites are very popular here as well as simple chat apps that have GPS to see who is near you. The best way to get the girl you really want is to meet them in cafes & clubs. .Thanks for tips I am in district 1 now so do you mean tinder and badoo?
Can you tip for location of cafes and clubs I am new here. Bui vien street is a Circus and for cafe I normally sit in Tr and Ho street. Some charge only 35 K dong for big Cappuccino. (such as "take away" caffe.).
But here is my tip regarding how to save ATM fee redraw. First MB ATM don't charge fee. (Military bank).
Now if you go inside the bank with credit card and passport you will avoid both the limitation of 4 Mdong and also the 60 K fee.
I have tested it in Thailand many times and its work redrawing same amount from ATM and inside the bank and the difference was exactly the 200 bht.
Now, I hate the family home stay here in district 1. What should I do?
AmericanThief
09-18-16, 04:30
Thanks for tips I am in district 1 now so do you mean tinder and badoo?
Those two are better, a lot comes down to timing too. I found some girls aren't so picky but when they want to go our you better be ready.
Girls like franchise cafes like Trung Nguyen, Phuc Long, any place that is inside and has decent lighting. Not those dark, smokey male cafes obviously.
Move into a hotel or get a service apartment. 8-12 million a month in D1. Don't stay where they have a curfew, but most places will lock the gate at 11 pm, so make sure they have security to let you in or you get a key.
almost forgot http://tuoitrenews.vn/video/detail-video/35285
Member #4178
09-18-16, 11:54
Those two are better, a lot comes down to timing too. Thanks you are very helpful, Based on your idea of Apps I download "OK Cupid" and already started to chat. Totally free with very good interface.
I thing the whole idea here is how to build your foundation in the city, getting to know girls and gaining knowledge. Not easy as Pattaya to settle down as I am running around like a rat to look departments but 100 times more rewarding.
I am heavy user of google map when I use both the "saved" icon and the "Labeled" icon which I can write a description to a place and lock both name and description into map with GPS coordinates. So when I walk around town and see some interesting place, cafe I can lock it into my phone.
For example, MB ATM are rare in the city so you can't just walk and look for them so just type "97 HM Nghi, Nguyễand ThI benh, Ho Chi Minh City, Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam" this address in your map to get to the free service charge ATM.
In fact you can paste that address to UBER App destination and in just a few minutes or even far lees the driver will pick you from your current location directly to that ATM. All that without looking for taxi, explaining where do you want to go or arguing the price. You know the price estimate before you even get on the bike or the car. For me its around 10 k for moto to ATM or to my accommodation. (both pre-locked in UBER App to save time for typing.).
Now, taking photos to those social apps are frustrating but I am using my Oppo phone "beauty face" camera feature to send me 10 years back in time. The internal image processing smooth your face and make it much whiter. In Thailand and Vietnam white is better and the results are super.
Very pretty girls here leaves Thai in the dust.
Member #4178
09-29-16, 17:29
After two weeks of Non-Stop dating with all type of girls the conclusion is clear. The reason why foreigners are not settled here and no couples around is because the ladies are not ready to give sex for relationship. As a result the date is dies before it even began.
For their view sex should be given after trust and love has been build but in reality if a foreigner will accept this idea, girls will just play around eat and drink and say bye without sex or relationship.
In reality foreigners well aware that scam so almost zero meeting taking place after the chat phase. Girls know very well that "No sex no boyfriend" but still walk away. Foreigners walk away too. So that war has no winners. Most girls on badoo never date a foreigner and surely never fuck with anyone.
The overall feeling I get from this country is frustration. Different animals scare to death from sex. Even a single mother with a kid is horror from the idea of sex. I was in Phan Thiet and they all will suggest to meet with their friends in public place daytime.
More time in Vietnam more crazy you became from this madness. I am out very soon.
AmericanThief
10-06-16, 15:33
After two weeks of Non-Stop dating with all type of girls the conclusion is clear. DonOmar, are you searching for a girlfriend?
Member #4420
11-12-16, 02:52
When I am talking with a Filipina or a Thai (whether in a date or online) so I always feel that the conversation is escalating to the next step, regardless of how shallow the conversations usually is but its usually going somewhere, mainly because Filipinas and Thais know the game, know the rules and have a goal of being with a foreigner which is either to immigrate or to benefit as much as possible, which is something that I take advantage of by playing their game and get them to my bed.
With Vietnamese girls the situation is different, the talk / the date dosent go anywhere, it feels like being with an asexual (and possibly aromatic) person.
The only reason I might ever say Hi to a Vietnamese girl again is if I was looking for a marriage / a serious relationship, because these girls are generally much more decent comparing to Thais and Filipinas so if I was looking for marriage then they will be worth the time and effort.
But for anything other than a serious relationship so just like what "DonOmar" said: "frustration".
Geneva Guy
11-12-16, 06:04
I generally agree with most of the comments. But not that there is "horror' from VN girls about sex. They want men to love them, maybe be their husbands, but I find that some only want love and caring from a guy, without marriage. I have 2 VN GFs, one in the north, one in the south, (24/28), they are lovely, beautiful, sweet and make good sex partners (Ok maybe not like filipinas but they are different).
I met a married Vn woman, about 30 years old, husband makes good $, she has one kid, husband is unaffectionate (not abusive). She wants someone to love and care about her, tell her she is beautiful and be interested in her life. She and I talk a lot, we work together a couple times a year and we have talked about a relationship (she says this is not normal for Vn women, but she is open to the idea). So we will see. This woman is so beautiful (she's out of my league for sure, good think they value brains over looks). Everyone tells her that. Except her husband. So, the future will tell for me and her.
VN women want love and caring, not a quick bang. But if you are willing to do that. You will find they are lovely, kind, loving and pretty good sex partners that you can train well.
You can check out the Singapore photo gallery for the latest pics of my southern VN GF she is here in Singapore with me.
GG.
Wander Luster
11-12-16, 14:31
I generally agree with most of the comments. But not that there is "horror' from VN girls about sex. They want men to love them, maybe be their husbands, but I find that some only want love and caring from a guy, without marriage. I have 2 VN GFs, one in the north, one in the south, (24/28), they are lovely, beautiful, sweet and make good sex partners (Ok maybe not like filipinas but they are different).
I met a married Vn woman, about 30 years old, husband makes good $, she has one kid, husband is unaffectionate (not abusive). She wants someone to love and care about her, tell her she is beautiful and be interested in her life. She and I talk a lot, we work together a couple times a year and we have talked about a relationship (she says this is not normal for Vn women, but she is open to the idea). So we will see. This woman is so beautiful (she's out of my league for sure, good think they value brains over looks). Everyone tells her that. Except her husband. So, the future will tell for me and her.
VN women want love and caring, not a quick bang. But if you are willing to do that. You will find they are lovely, kind, loving and pretty good sex partners that you can train well.
You can check out the Singapore photo gallery for the latest pics of my southern VN GF she is here in Singapore with me.
GG.Very well said. I've been here about 4 months living / working in 2016 and found the same. I don't want to hurt a marriage so haven't really looked at that. But I am not totally opposed. Got the number of a married women, but she wasn't up for meeting after the first time. Alsio 20-some women in HCMC are MUCH different than those over 30! The conservative ideas are gone for women in there 20's interested in foreigners (and I think also for their local BF).
Wander Luster
11-12-16, 14:43
After two weeks of Non-Stop dating with all type of girls the conclusion is clear. The reason why foreigners are not settled here and no couples around is because the ladies are not ready to give sex for relationship. As a result the date is dies before it even began.
For their view sex should be given after trust and love has been build but in reality if a foreigner will accept this idea, girls will just play around eat and drink and say bye without sex or relationship.
In reality foreigners well aware that scam so almost zero meeting taking place after the chat phase. Girls know very well that "No sex no boyfriend" but still walk away. Foreigners walk away too. So that war has no winners. Most girls on badoo never date a foreigner and surely never fuck with anyone.
The overall feeling I get from this country is frustration. Different animals scare to death from sex. Even a single mother with a kid is horror from the idea of sex. I was in Phan Thiet and they all will suggest to meet with their friends in public place daytime.
More time in Vietnam more crazy you became from this madness. I am out very soon.I went through a similar experience- was horrible experience at first (about 3 weeks). But, I also dated a very modern, gorgeous girl from Turkey, 18 years ago, who was muslim but never practiced or went to mosque.
The problem is that here things are similar to USA in 1940. The women are treated with little respect at home by husbands. But, the difference is that many have careers. There are slews of 30-somethings that decided to stay single for life because they won't put up with that.
Some of them are the most amazing "catch" a guy could ever imagine. But, can you wait a month to get her cloths off? I couldn't, although I did meet a young-thirty something that's traveled a lot and she has "modern" ideas about sex. There are many other young 30-something career women, but you won't meet them other than through people who live here.
I also had a first date f* w / a girl that was cute who'd ex was a westerner. Had 4 beers each, and off to my place after 2-3 hours to F* She was early 30's.
A person has to date with women that are either.
1. in their 20's or.
2. has hung out with westerners.
The girl I dated for 3 weeks who was amazing but only very heavy petting and some of the best kissing ever. She told me after I broke up she should have had sex with me. For her whole life she learned to feel dirty and horrible to do that without love. No same-same-- different here, now.
In the end, I think the one's that will meet the awesome girls, are those that live and work here. Best way to meet is through other western / foreign friends that are hooked into vietnamese friends.
Member #4420
11-12-16, 15:38
So to sum it up, what most of opinions seems to agree on is:
* While its a country that you will feel frustrated in it but its not a country where you will feel rejected in it.
* If you are living / working here so with lots of efforts, time and patience you will be able to enjoy yourself.
* If you are looking for a decent wife material type of girl so your chances of finding one in Vietnam are much higher than in Philippines or Thailand.
* If you are into the dating game and expecting to score often from the first date (Like me or like most of the Filipino forum members) then avoid Vietnam.
Happy mongering everybody.
Wander Luster
11-12-16, 17:30
So to sum it up, what most of opinions seems to agree on is:
* While its a country that you will feel frustrated in it but its not a country where you will feel rejected in it.
* If you are living / working here so with lots of efforts, time and patience you will be able to enjoy yourself.
* If you are looking for a decent wife material type of girl so your chances of finding one in Vietnam are much higher than in Philippines or Thailand.
* If you are into the dating game and expecting to score often from the first date (Like me or like most of the Filipino forum members) then avoid Vietnam.
Happy mongering everybody.Agreed, good basics, but I'm still curious about prices in other SEA cities. I would also add that Vietnamese are VERY foreigner friendly. I almost feel like I'm more appreciated here than in the PH if you take into account that it's not just that they are after money. Sure, money matters, but they really do want to be with foreigners. My best women friend here said it's VERY big status for a college-educated woman to have a western BF, and not just because of the money. I've also seen that after Obama visited their was a massive surge in appreciation for USA.
I haven't looked that much, but it seems to me you can pull one of the hotties that are working as bar-girls for $100- $120. IMO I think this would be a better looking chick than one could find, for example, EDSA in Manila, an 8 for example, but would have to look around a little AND know where to go. These are places in D1. I do think some girls could be a LITLLE choosy. They don't get paid by the bars. They don't have to go with anyone they want. The one I went with told me about the types she turned down (yes, she was a bit discriminating against people by ethnic backround, but if I were P4 P working I might also if *generally* one country has a bad reputation. Like some of the rich middle east countries). I don't know what their criteria would be overall.
Anyone have a basic idea of how much to pull a girl in nice bar / club in Manila, PP, Bangkok? I guess Bangkok and PP are less. Manila, I don't know. If she likes you here, should be 4 hours, but not overnight. And the attitude of women here is always amazing to me. Although, years ago I'll admit the "playfulness" of thais made the hands down best. Not sure that's true now. I've spent a very long time in the PH, and it was great, but I feel like it went very far down in places like Cebu (mostly based on prices going way farther up because more Asians going there for P4 P). I remember when Arena in Cebu and Jaguar had $100 for basically model-types. Too bad I didn't have much money back in the day.
Cheers.
...Anyone have a basic idea of how much to pull a girl in nice bar / club in Manila, PP, Bangkok? I guess Bangkok and PP are less. Manila, I don't know. If she likes you here, should be 4 hours, but not overnight. And the attitude of women here is always amazing to me. Although, years ago I'll admit the "playfulness" of thais made the hands down best. Not sure that's true now. I've spent a very long time in the PH, and it was great, but I feel like it went very far down in places like Cebu (mostly based on prices going way farther up because more Asians going there for P4 P). I remember when Arena in Cebu and Jaguar had $100 for basically model-types. Too bad I didn't have much money back in the day.
Cheers.I visited all 3 places this year. From what I remember Bangkok and Manila (Burgos) are similar. For all night, you are looking at 3 K baht and up, plus drinks and barfines. I believe Burgos was 3 K pesos and up. PP was less ($50 to $100) if you pull the girl from a bar. A club like Darling Darling is more expensive, $200 and up.
LoveShibuyaGirls
11-13-16, 00:26
Is there any truth to this article?
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1652-5-facts-life-you-learn-as-prostitute-in-vietnam.html
LukeSkywalker
11-13-16, 13:45
This is a very well-researched and well-written article about teen prostitutes in Vietnam. The content is more closely related to local mongers than foreigners. Prostitution is actually bustling in Vietnam under the surface, not visible to short time tourists. There is significant added values in marketing by the street callers, matching mongers' demands to the supply at hand.
Due to unemployment and poverty, these prostitutes do work with the tacit support by their community and protection by local police. Matching by pimps, or street callers, make them feel more like dates than massage girls, who work like robots, having no choice whom they must fuck, therefore are more like WG in local twisted logic.
It's true that most riff raff families in the South with low morals would accept prostitution by their young daughters; some even sell their young daughters into prostitution for money to pay off gambling debts, drinking ect. It's estimated that over 10,000 young girls in the Mekong Delta are sold into prostitution in Cambodia every year, some as young as 5.
Also in the South there are rings of young movie stars, models, singers, entertainers who would date wealthy local entrepreneurs for US $1000 to $2000 a day. Some of those so-called models are so skanky and ugly I would not fuck them for free, but they still do business somehow.
In the capital Hanoi and various parts of the North, people are more restrained, more conservative, and tend to live their lives with higher morals. But there is a very lively market for sex services simmering under the surface. Northern girls are some of the prettiest and sweetest in Vietnam.
Is there any truth to this article?
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1652-5-facts-life-you-learn-as-prostitute-in-vietnam.html
AmericanThief
11-17-16, 12:30
Was talking to an educated girl on social network. She doesn't date foreigners. She was telling me about how the foreigners attract young girls and take them back to their room and force them to do something they don't want to do.
She had some evidence in the form of blogs, online news sources and other social networks. Since then I begin clicking on the bait in my own social networks and sure enough about once a day a run across a story of a foreign man doing wrong to a Vietnamese girl.
I have felt accepted here, but this is the first time I've seen the community turn against foreigners, and they are getting their message across.
The sites are like Yan and Bao Moi and others. It all depends on how many people you follow and how much spam you receive, but I am surprised by the amount of propaganda there is against foreign males here at this time.
Wander Luster
11-18-16, 19:12
Was talking to an educated girl on social network. She doesn't date foreigners. She was telling me about how the foreigners attract young girls and take them back to their room and force them to do something they don't want to do.
She had some evidence in the form of blogs, online news sources and other social networks. Since then I begin clicking on the bait in my own social networks and sure enough about once a day a run across a story of a foreign man doing wrong to a Vietnamese girl.
I have felt accepted here, but this is the first time I've seen the community turn against foreigners, and they are getting their message across.
The sites are like Yan and Bao Moi and others. It all depends on how many people you follow and how much spam you receive, but I am surprised by the amount of propaganda there is against foreign males here at this time.Well said. But isn't that the same-- worse-- in places like Manila or Bangkok? Seems like the idea that ex-pats in these places are beyond the pale horrible RE sex is common now even though I'm sure it's no different than 30 years ago. Thank you social media.
NguyetLang
11-18-16, 21:06
Is there any truth to this article?
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1652-5-facts-life-you-learn-as-prostitute-in-vietnam.htmlThere are some truth to this, but the scene have changed. In the olden time, the callers do take care of the girls, they typically work for a bigger boss who may be related to the local officals, that's why the police protection. The boss may be also in charge of gambling (cards, majong, etc.) and bettings (sports, races.). The scene have changed now that the more sophisticated callers put up websites and control quality by customer reviews (web-admin can be outsourced to prefessionals, even photos are professionally done now). The old method callers today are mostly the lower quality and easy target of raid-for-show in preparation for major holidays. Tourists only get in trouble if the act involve physical violence or und*are age prostitues. If just the sex act, tourist who get caught typically get "fined" some money and let go within minutes. The penalty is lightest on the monger, then the girl, the caller, and finally the boss. If the boss keeps up with all required payments, then the whole system will run smoothly and everyone will be happy. Raids happen when there is someone not getting paid. The police usually look the other way because that is an order from above. No self-respected police will go on a raid to arrest sex tourist by himself, since he knows that will touch people more powerful than him. If he happen to catch you by chance, just pay him the penalty by cash (my own experience, anywhere from 100 k to 500 k VND depends on the situation), he will let you go with a smile.
Cheers,
Peter.
AmericanThief
12-09-16, 13:13
Do you guys know Adagrin? Its the Vietnamese sildenafil. Its only 90,000 for 3 / 50 MG tablets. It works and the side effects are mild to none.
Member #4566
01-29-17, 23:13
Is there any truth to this article?
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1652-5-facts-life-you-learn-as-prostitute-in-vietnam.htmlSo it would seem that all of those ISG members who have been cautioning us not reveal info about where and how are wrong. The police ignore prostitution so long as it does not involve other criminality. Thus let's lighten up guys and give more specifics as to where and how to find it.
Agreed, good basics, but I'm still curious about prices in other SEA cities. I would also add that Vietnamese are VERY foreigner friendly. I almost feel like I'm more appreciated here than in the PH if you take into account that it's not just that they are after money. Sure, money matters, but they really do want to be with foreigners. My best women friend here said it's VERY big status for a college-educated woman to have a western BF, and not just because of the money. I've also seen that after Obama visited their was a massive surge in appreciation for USA.
I haven't looked that much, but it seems to me you can pull one of the hotties that are working as bar-girls for $100- $120. IMO I think this would be a better looking chick than one could find, for example, EDSA in Manila, an 8 for example, but would have to look around a little AND know where to go. These are places in D1. I do think some girls could be a LITLLE choosy. They don't get paid by the bars. They don't have to go with anyone they want. The one I went with told me about the types she turned down (yes, she was a bit discriminating against people by ethnic backround, but if I were P4 P working I might also if *generally* one country has a bad reputation. Like some of the rich middle east countries). I don't know what their criteria would be overall.
Anyone have a basic idea of how much to pull a girl in nice bar / club in Manila, PP, Bangkok? I guess Bangkok and PP are less. Manila, I don't know. If she likes you here, should be 4 hours, but not overnight. And the attitude of women here is always amazing to me. Although, years ago I'll admit the "playfulness" of thais made the hands down best. Not sure that's true now. I've spent a very long time in the PH, and it was great, but I feel like it went very far down in places like Cebu (mostly based on prices going way farther up because more Asians going there for P4 P). I remember when Arena in Cebu and Jaguar had $100 for basically model-types. Too bad I didn't have much money back in the day.
Cheers.It kind of depends on the girl and what club you are in as far as Bangkok is concerned. Thermae is infamous in Bangkok, but the prices have gone up do to Japanese and Koreans hunting FL's there. A lot of the more attractive girls are asking for 3000 baht for short time. 1500 used to be sufficient for ST. The clubs can be pretty expensive also. Levels, and Ce La Vie for example have girls asking for 3000+. FL's out on the street will run about 1500 or less for ST, and maybe up to 2500 for LT. Beer bars have girls that will take 1500 or less for LT + barfine going to the bar. But the quality for the beer bars can be so so.
Ermita in Manila is probably the most cost effective option in Manila. Take your choice in LA Cafe for 1500 Pesos or less all night. There are also tons of freelancers in the Greenbelt mall. The freelance scene I think is better in Manila (VS Bangkok).
But if your looking for model types, I think the soapies in Bangkok are the way to go. But you are looking at 5000 baht or more maybe. And I would say gogo bars in Manila. That might end up being up to 5000 pesos in between the barfine and tip to the girl at EDSA.
Another fun option in Bangkok and the Phillipines are the dating sites. I used Badoo and did very well in the Phillipines. Hooked up with some very pretty girls with no mention of money, but I paid them anyway. I got the ball rolling with a couple girls within a couple days of being there. They girls I've met from the websites aren't usually as jaded and mercenary as a freelancer picked up off the street or from a cafe. Thai friendly works the best in Bangkok. Badoo works well in Bangkok also.
I used to live in Vietnam for 2 years, but never did any mongering there. So if you have any useful tips on Saigon, I would much appreciate it. I'm interested in barfining a girl for the night if that is done in some of the bars there. I've seen a few posts referencing the possibility of that scenario, but I wasn't sure about specific bars.
Wander Luster
02-07-17, 21:05
It kind of depends on the girl and what club you are in as far as Bangkok is concerned. Thermae is infamous in Bangkok, but the prices have gone up do to Japanese and Koreans hunting FL's there. A lot of the more attractive girls are asking for 3000 baht for short time. 1500 used to be sufficient for ST. The clubs can be pretty expensive also. Levels, and Ce La Vie for example have girls asking for 3000+. FL's out on the street will run about 1500 or less for ST, and maybe up to 2500 for LT. Beer bars have girls that will take 1500 or less for LT + barfine going to the bar. But the quality for the beer bars can be so so.
Ermita in Manila is probably the most cost effective option in Manila. Take your choice in LA Cafe for 1500 Pesos or less all night. There are also tons of freelancers in the Greenbelt mall. The freelance scene I think is better in Manila (VS Bangkok).
But if your looking for model types, I think the soapies in Bangkok are the way to go. But you are looking at 5000 baht or more maybe. And I would say gogo bars in Manila. That might end up being up to 5000 pesos in between the barfine and tip to the girl at EDSA.
Another fun option in Bangkok and the Philippines are the dating sites. I used Badoo and did very well in the Philippines. Hooked up with some very pretty girls with no mention of money, but I paid them anyway. I got the ball rolling with a couple girls within a couple days of being there. They girls I've met from the websites aren't usually as jaded and mercenary as a freelancer picked up off the street or from a cafe. Thai friendly works the best in Bangkok. Badoo works well in Bangkok also.
I used to live in Vietnam for 2 years, but never did any mongering there. So if you have any useful tips on Saigon, I would much appreciate it. I'm interested in barfining a girl for the night if that is done in some of the bars there. I've seen a few posts referencing the possibility of that scenario, but I wasn't sure about specific bars.The escorts online in HCMC are an amazing opportunity, but I've not ventured there. It speaks to the idea that the scene is just not for "foreigners. " Girlfriends in HCMC are amazing. It's just not a good place for P2 P! I was in BKK for a week recently, and found the late night dance clubs are FAR better than PH or HCMC for freelancers. I'm 50, but was able to score beautiful girls (I'm still handsome, but older). That is just not possible on that level in PH or HCMC. BKK girls still have the "good time girls" attitude. They want to have fun. HCMC is more serious, which is perfect for GF, but not for a one night stand. PH is good, but the quality of the girls is horrible compared to finding a club with freelancers in BKK. The girls I went with had retail jobs that didn't pay much. It's a more "natural" experience w / them. Not just a transaction. They want a good time, so you can't be a loser, and they also want to make extra money.
Hello,
I'm off to Vung Tau for a couple of days and wondered if anyone had any recommendations? Feel free to PM me.
MutantChicken
05-31-17, 21:45
Hello,
I'm off to Vung Tau for a couple of days and wondered if anyone had any recommendations? Feel free to PM me.Not that I was going to send you any suggestions that I spent my own time finding that hasnt been spoilt by guys who just want the fun without putting in any effort, but you don't have PM capabilities BTW.
It's been a while since I've been there but there used to be a good massage parlour right across the street from the dock. Some of the prettiest Vietnamese girls I have ever seen.
Hello,
I'm off to Vung Tau for a couple of days and wondered if anyone had any recommendations? Feel free to PM me..
Team,
I have been to Vietnam many times. But I always go in the high seasons. I was thinking about going in the low seasons. I am thinking September. The high class massage parlors like Hai yen for example. Are there still many girls there and at the hot toc's or is there few girls there. In Thailand for example if you go in the low seasons it is night and day compared to how many girls there are in the high season.
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06-16-17, 15:01
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Dear all,
Although I am a member for several years, I took notice of the price thread today only.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1083-Prices
The forum is full of posts complaining about increasing prices and guys asking for price information in paticular threads.
The price thread being a general one could be a very useful tool for all of us, so I would like to encourage my fellow mongers to put some recent info there. IMO it could be done in a brief way (widely practiced already) mentioning:
Country.
City.
Type of establishment.
ST / LT.
Looks of the lady X /10.
Performance X /10.
Price.
Link to your post.
Sorry for cross posting, happy mongering!
Adventurer1
10-18-17, 14:28
Any suggestions about the best (prepaid) sim for data mostly I can get from Hanoi?
Try mobifone / Viettel.
Any suggestions about the best (prepaid) sim for data mostly I can get from Hanoi?
RainmanSahut
10-19-17, 18:12
Hello!
Been there twice for over 2 months. Viettel has Best coverage. Prices are too close to worry about. Best to buy card and data / minutes from real store.
Street vendors sell and they work, but, you may not get all you paid for.
Buy a cheap motorbike, I recommend Yamaha Nouvo. $300 range.
Check backpacker hostels / hotels.
Good luck!
Rainman.
Adventurer1
10-20-17, 11:07
Hello!
Been there twice for over 2 months. Viettel has Best coverage. Prices are too close to worry about. Best to buy card and data / minutes from real store.
Street vendors sell and they work, but, you may not get all you paid for.
Buy a cheap motorbike, I recommend Yamaha Nouvo. $300 range.
Check backpacker hostels / hotels.
Good luck!
Rainman.
Try mobifone / Viettel.Cost is about? And is it obligatory to register with passport?
LifeIsABeach
01-02-18, 04:21
I am visiting Vietnam from January 31 2018 for about a couple of weeks and found getting a visa some what a headache compared to other countries.
The cheapest company I found to do the paper work and approval letter for VOA is https://www.vietnamvoa.com/.
They charge usd 9. 99 for processing. Stamp fee at the airport is usd 25.00.
Adventurer1
01-02-18, 16:04
I am visiting Vietnam from January 31 2018 for about a couple of weeks and found getting a visa some what a headache compared to other countries.
The cheapest company I found to do the paper work and approval letter for VOA is https://www.vietnamvoa.com/.
They charge usd 9. 99 for processing. Stamp fee at the airport is usd 25.00.There is a cheaper.
http://vietnamvisapro.com about 6 $ + 25 $ on the airport.
I am visiting Vietnam from January 31 2018 for about a couple of weeks and found getting a visa some what a headache compared to other countries.
The cheapest company I found to do the paper work and approval letter for VOA is https://www.vietnamvoa.com/.
They charge usd 9. 99 for processing. Stamp fee at the airport is usd 25.00.Don't know what your passport is but Brits can buy evisa from govt site for $25 (if staying more than 15 days; fewer has a waiver). Just print it out and sail thru immigration. Personally I can't be arsed with queuing for visa on arrival and form filling when I get off the plane.
Maybe you can do same?
NguyetLang
01-04-18, 01:47
It's been a while since I've been there but there used to be a good massage parlour right across the street from the dock. Some of the prettiest Vietnamese girls I have ever seen.
.It is still there. It's Buu Dien (the Post) accross the street (Ha Long) from the hydrofoil (tau canh ngam) station. Like you said it is on the high end. Ticket 250 k plus FS for 800. Total 1020 k last time I was there, about 6-7 months ago (Summer 2017).
LifeIsABeach
01-04-18, 02:01
Don't know what your passport is but Brits can buy evisa from govt site for $25 (if staying more than 15 days; fewer has a waiver). Just print it out and sail thru immigration. Personally I can't be arsed with queuing for visa on arrival and form filling when I get off the plane.
Maybe you can do same?I have already got the approval letter.
This is the Vietnam Government portal site and I do not see anywhere where you could print the forms. I am in USA.
http://vietnam.gov.vn/portal/page/portal/English
FishingForSome
01-07-18, 00:51
I am visiting Vietnam from January 31 2018 for about a couple of weeks and found getting a visa some what a headache compared to other countries.
The cheapest company I found to do the paper work and approval letter for VOA is https://www.vietnamvoa.com/.
They charge usd 9.99 for processing. Stamp fee at the airport is usd 25.00.I have had the same headache. My connection flight in Taipei is very rigorous. Make sure your stuff is spot on! I used a different company, but was able to print everything OK. I will let you know how it goes!
I can try to PM you the form.
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LukeSkywalker
02-17-18, 20:28
Nothing shows up in Google Map.
You remember the correct name of the place?
Would appreciate it!
It is still there. It's Buu Dien (the Post) accross the street (Ha Long) from the hydrofoil (tau canh ngam) station. Like you said it is on the high end. Ticket 250 k plus FS for 800. Total 1020 k last time I was there, about 6-7 months ago (Summer 2017).
NguyetLang
02-19-18, 23:41
Nothing shows up in Google Map.
You remember the correct name of the place?
Would appreciate it!The hotel is on the map as Post Office Vung Tau Hotel.
https://goo.gl/maps/PDACAtDCKaN2
The massage operator rents space on hotel premises, just follow the "massage" sign and you don't need to go into the hotel lobby.
158, Hạ Long, Phường 2, Tp. Vũng Tàu, Bà Rịa - Vũng Tàu, Vietnam
vnpthotel.com.vn
+84 93 416 13 31
Good luck,
LukeSkywalker
02-23-18, 16:34
Now I remember. It's the small hotel next to the Post office. Thanks to Nguyen Lang for the info.
I have been there a few times, just never suspected there were working girls inside. There are probably other similar massages downtown Vung Tau?
BTW are there places where you can go and pick out girls from a pool of talents for all night dates, Like the KTVs in Chong Ping years back?
The hotel is on the map as Post Office Vung Tau Hotel.
https://goo.gl/maps/PDACAtDCKaN2
The massage operator rents space on hotel premises, just follow the "massage" sign and you don't need to go into the hotel lobby.
158, Hạ Long, Phường 2, Tp. Vũng Tu, B Rịa - Vũng Tu, Vietnam
vnpthotel.com.vn
+84 93 416 13 31
Good luck,
NguyetLang
02-25-18, 02:30
Now I remember. It's the small hotel next to the Post office. Thanks to Nguyen Lang for the info.
I have been there a few times, just never suspected there were working girls inside. There are probably other similar massages downtown Vung Tau?
BTW are there places where you can go and pick out girls from a pool of talents for all night dates, Like the KTVs in Chong Ping years back?I have not done the bars in Vung Tau since they were catered mainly to the Aussies and Russians working in the Petro industry. The girls there are somewhat older, but some are still good looking. Lately I heard that Vuvuzela at the Imperial hotel is a hot spot, but you may have to go more than once to get the feel for the place.
https://goo.gl/maps/nHpe49nHgt32
Vung Tau are best known for the massage girls. Some of my best experience are from what formerly known as Amis, but now move to hotel Binh-An at 179 Vo Thi Sau street (ticket=250 k, FS=700 k). After one or two visit, they allow take-out after 11 pm (I. E. , they recognize you as a known / safe guy). I use the following routine:
1. Ask for young and big boobs girl, say you want to see the girl BEFORE you pay the ticket.
2. When the girl shows up NOT to your liking, ask for another.
3. Keep it to no more than three rejects (walk out, since by then you know the selection / availability is limited).
4. Pay the ticket 250 k (like a barfine) and take girl to your hotel, pay the girl in your room at the hotel, some wants money first, some don't care until after.
Although I occasionally take girl back to my hotel, I usually let her go right after. I usually don't do more than one shot per night and prefer to sleep alone. But I heard the overnight (with MSOG) rate is anywhere between 1. 5 M to 3 M, depends on quality and your negotiation skills. They (papa / mamasan) usually ask for the name of your hotel to make sure it is a safe / friendly hotel, so take a few hotel business cards with you, usually available in hotel lobby / reception.
Other than the above, kynu.net has a few girls listed under Baria / Vung Tau. These are mainly incalls. But similarly, after some visits and you are known to them, they will agree with outcall / overnight.
Cheers.
Other than the above, kynu.net has a few girls listed under Baria / Vung Tau. These are mainly incalls. But similarly, after some visits and you are known to them, they will agree with outcall / overnight.Have you got the specific link for BaRia / VungTau on kynu? I go to kynu and can find sections for all the HCM areas including even CuChi, also some sections for Hanoi, but can not find anything for VungTau area.
Any help appreciated.
NguyetLang
03-01-18, 00:37
Have you got the specific link for BaRia / VungTau on kynu? I go to kynu and can find sections for all the HCM areas including even CuChi, also some sections for Hanoi, but can not find anything for VungTau area.
Any help appreciated.Try this. Hope it helps.
https://kynu.net/gai-goi/khu-vuc/B%C3%A0%20R%E1%BB%8Ba%20-%20V%C5%A9ng%20T%C3%A0u
Cheers,
Try this. Hope it helps.
https://kynu.net/gai-goi/khu-vuc/B%C3%A0%20R%E1%BB%8Ba%20-%20V%C5%A9ng%20T%C3%A0u
Cheers,Yes thanks. There are just a few there, and not too desirable looking. Maybe kynu is not a good way in for Vung Tau. I see 13 available there (a few more there but unavailable now), price range from 300 to 400. In contrast, there are 331 in district 10 and 304 in district 8 with price range from 250 up to 2 million. So for someone who is hoping to find attractive girls and many choices, I guess if we find just one good massage spa in Vung Tau, it will be a better option by far than anything we can find on Kynu. For guys who want cheap girls though, I think it's hard to find cheaper anywhere than Kynu. I would opt for the spa myself.
AmericanThief
03-21-18, 07:01
Is there any general info on the Nang? So far I've only found wechat girls whom I don't trust. Every girl has the same problem. They aren't working girls, they need money for their sick mother and need medicine.
LetThemEatSake
05-02-18, 12:00
I've found myself in search of full-figured women. Tigerr Benson (pornstar) typifies this. I did have a woman who was perfect but has disappeared. If anyone has any recommendations (even elsewhere in SEA), I'the Be really happy to hear them. Thanks.
So I have read enough reports on this site and though it was time to contribute a little back. Before my visit I read a lot of the reports and expected to have a tough time finding girls in fact it turned out to be very simple. Before I start the report a bit on price and willingness to pay since I know someone will be complaining that I overpaid. I am a tourist I don't live here, if paying a bit extra gets me what I am looking for I don't mind paying it. I am not trying to get the absolute cheapest ass available.
A note on taxis in HCMC use Vinasun taxis they are awesome and use the meter all the time. In Hanoi it's a clusterfuck there's an app called Grab which is similar to Uber. Use that instead of taxis most taxis would try to go the long way around.
HCMC.
First the city doesn't have that much to offer, other had told me beforehand but I was still surprised at how little architecture / museums it had. I wouldn't spend more than 48 hrs here sure girls are easier to find but what are you going to do the other 23:30 min of the day? I tried a few of the massage places in area 1 and every single time I was offered a happy ending none of the girls were that attractive (5-6's IMO) so I didn't push to see if they offered FS. Seeing I was a foreigner they asked for 1 m and I usually started laughing, seems they think if they got you by the balls that they really do have you by the balls. I am old enough that those tricks don't work on me anymore, I was happy with 500 k for the one cute girl I was willing to pay and she did give a great HJ and had nice tits.
There are a bunch of bars around 92 Pasteur. Vinyl Bar, Bar 5, The Pub, Bliss Bar etc they are all about the same. They have some cute girls who come hang out with you play darts or pool and you can buy them lady drinks, they are there to provide some ambiance and make sure you have a good time. I was there with a local friend and he was asking if I was interested in any of the girls, there were 2 that were clearly hotter than any of the other girls. He asked and they didn't even provide a price a bit later in the night it became clear why, 2-3 local guys stopped by and dropped at least 4 m in drinks at the bar of course the girls were happy to get drunk with them and I assume they typically leave with those guys. I wasn't that interested in any of the girls so I decided to use Line and see what was around. In case you are not familiar with Line you should be. It's full of working girls. I easily found 20 profiles and start messaging them, some were individual girls and others agencies. They all wanted to quote in US $. One crazy girl wanted $300 for LT and $200 for ST but beyond that the rest were more reasonable $1 m-$1. 5 m for short time and double for LT. For some reason most of the girls start with $60/$120 but will also quote dong once you ask. So here's a report for a few of the girls.
#1: My first experience with a line girl, big implants, very pale skin she looked hot online and in person. Now I don't know what most of you guys have been doing here but the girls have the tightest pussies in all of Asia. Clearly not enough fucking is going on here. In typical super hot girl fashion she started complaining about the size of my dick I am a bit above average but not pornstar sized. Soon it felt like I was fucking an ex-GF that I hated, every time I slapped her ass she would cuss me in Vietnamese, as soon as we were done she got her clothes back on and bailed. 9/10.
#2 Girl did not match the picture at all, I told her flat out that it wasn't her picture at first she said it was photoshopped then she admitted it wasn't her at all. I told her we had no deal and she blamed her agency, she said instead of 1.3 m she would take 800 k and cut out her agency and I wouldn't have to pay until we were done. She told her agency that I had sent her back and got to work and man did she work. She was a solid 6 with no ass at all but her mouth did all the work. What was funny is the agency sent another girl while I was fucking this one and I had to tell the hotel not to send her up.
There were 1-2 other girls but honestly I have already forgotten them. They were not that remarkable.
Hanoi.
So having tired of working girls I tried my hand at some civilians. BTW it's really easy to tell by the profile of the girls which ones are working girls they will typically have hearts or say massage girls or just tell you right off the bat.
In Hanoi I started messaging a very hot one 10/10 I'd say and after exchanging pictures she agreed to meet. A few hours before we were going to meet up she changed her tune and said she would be a in a different city, she then said "want meet sex" which confused the fuck out of me here I thought it was going to be free. Being a gentlemen of course I said how much and she said $200. I about burst out laughing, after wiping away a few tears I told her that was ridiculous, she immediately dropped down to $100 for short time. I normally would have passed on but she was just gorgeous I offered 1.5 M and she wouldn't budge, she was set on $100. Remember how I said you could easily tell which were the working girls and which the civilians yeah turns out I am wrong maybe just treat them all as working girls? On retrospect this could have turned out great or been another #1 situation. I ended up pinging another girl from an agency for 1.2 M.
#3 Total stunner maybe not as hot as the $100 girl but still very hot 9/10. Long black hair, copper skin and an ass to die for. She took a shower and immediately jumped into action, great BJ and it was clear she was in a bit of pain when we were fucking but she didn't complain. 10/10 on the service front. Easily the best part of the whole trip.
Hanoi itself is a great city, the old quarter has a lot of interesting architecture and shops, I could easily spend 3-4 days here and there are a ton of things to do a short 2-3 hour drive outside the city.
Here's a few pictures of different girls, I have about 50-60 Line profiles on my phone and it just took me a few days to build it up I am sure you can find something you like you just have to put a bit of time into it.
I've found myself in search of full-figured women. Tigerr Benson (pornstar) typifies this. I did have a woman who was perfect but has disappeared. If anyone has any recommendations (even elsewhere in SEA), I'the Be really happy to hear them. Thanks.Would enjoy this myself, but without the big fake tits. Not concerned about the tits, if she's slightly thick but toned that works for me.
So I have read enough reports on this site and though it was time to contribute a little back. Before my visit I read a lot of the reports and expected to have a tough time finding girls in fact it turned out to be very simple. Before I start the report a bit on price and willingness to pay since I know someone will be complaining that I overpaid. I am a tourist I don't live here, if paying a bit extra gets me what I am looking for I don't mind paying it. I am not trying to get the absolute cheapest ass available...A nice, comprehensive report! Thanks for taking the time to write it.
LukeSkywalker
05-05-18, 17:25
Very nice report.
The girls look good.
Will try Line girls when in Hanoi or HCMC.
HCMC.
#1: My first experience with a line girl, big implants, very pale skin she looked hot online and in person. Now I don't know what most of you guys have been doing here but the girls have the tightest pussies in all of Asia. Clearly not enough fucking is going on here. In typical super hot girl fashion she started complaining about the size of my dick I am a bit above average but not pornstar sized. Soon it felt like I was fucking an ex-GF that I hated, every time I slapped her ass she would cuss me in Vietnamese, as soon as we were done she got her clothes back on and bailed. 9/10.
Hanoi.
So having tired of working girls I tried my hand at some civilians. BTW it's really easy to tell by the profile of the girls which ones are working girls they will typically have hearts or say massage girls or just tell you right off the bat.
For my upcoming trip to Hanoi to be able to communicate with girls, I signed up on VietnamCupid.
Not sure about other countries, but here in US, when you sign up for VietnamCupid, to be able to read an incoming message, you must first register yourself and answer many "security" questions, which I am refusing to do as this is be. S.
Have others experienced the same "security questions" when signing up on VietnamCupid??
For my upcoming trip to Hanoi to be able to communicate with girls, I signed up on VietnamCupid.
Not sure about other countries, but here in US, when you sign up for VietnamCupid, to be able to read an incoming message, you must first register yourself and answer many "security" questions, which I am refusing to do as this is be. S.
Have others experienced the same "security questions" when signing up on VietnamCupid??I created an account. However, to communicate, I needed to pay for a premium subscription (which I did not pay).
I created an account. However, to communicate, I needed to pay for a premium subscription (which I did not pay).Very smart move Bleble!! VietnamCupid is NOT all that is it advertised!
I have not done the bars in Vung Tau since they were catered mainly to the Aussies and Russians working in the Petro industry. The girls there are somewhat older, but some are still good looking. Lately I heard that Vuvuzela at the Imperial hotel is a hot spot, but you may have to go more than once to get the feel for the place.
https://goo.gl/maps/nHpe49nHgt32
Vung Tau are best known for the massage girls. Some of my best experience are from what formerly known as Amis, but now move to hotel Binh-An at 179 Vo Thi Sau street (ticket=250 k, FS=700 k). After one or two visit, they allow take-out after 11 pm (I. E. , they recognize you as a known / safe guy). I use the following routine:
1. Ask for young and big boobs girl, say you want to see the girl BEFORE you pay the ticket.
2. When the girl shows up NOT to your liking, ask for another.
3. Keep it to no more than three rejects (walk out, since by then you know the selection / availability is limited).
. Pay the ticket 250 k (like a barfine) and take girl to your hotel, pay the girl in your room at the hotel, some wants money first, some don't care until after.
Although I occasionally take girl back to my hotel, I usually let her go right after. I usually don't do more than one shot per night and prefer to sleep alone. But I heard the overnight (with MSOG) rate is anywhere between 1. 5 M to 3 M, depends on quality and your negotiation skills. They (papa / mamasan) usually ask for the name of your hotel to make sure it is a safe / friendly hotel, so take a few hotel business cards with you, usually available in hotel lobby / reception.
Other than the above, kynu.net has a few girls listed under Baria / Vung Tau. These are mainly incalls. But similarly, after some visits and you are known to them, they will agree with outcall / overnight.
Cheers.Going to HCM with SO but when she is with family I can go somewhere to have fun by myself. She suggests Vung Tau. 2 questions. Now I know its not Thai or Phil but is there enough there to be worth it or is it just a hassle or hard work finding decent WG?
I see people swimming at beach but is the beach clean / good for swimming re water quality?
Closeness to HCM is a plus but if its too much like hard work or quality and quantity is low I will be better off in nearby Thailand or Cambo.
Appreciate feedback.
NguyetLang
07-30-18, 18:15
Going to HCM with SO but when she is with family I can go somewhere to have fun by myself. She suggests Vung Tau. 2 questions. Now I know its not Thai or Phil but is there enough there to be worth it or is it just a hassle or hard work finding decent WG?
I see people swimming at beach but is the beach clean / good for swimming re water quality?
Closeness to HCM is a plus but if its too much like hard work or quality and quantity is low I will be better off in nearby Thailand or Cambo.
Appreciate feedback.Vung Tau is mainly for massage with FS, except that they don't line up the girls for you to choose. You do have the right of refusal and they will send in another girl. Insist on seeing the girl before you pay for ticket (about 250 k. That's for the massage. FS is another 700-800 k). I usually walk out after three girls (that I do not find a liking). The rest of the hour will be pretty close to massage parlors with Thai girl in Bangkok. Except their massage skill is lacking compared to Thai girls. The Viet girls make up for it in the looks department. I have met some great looking girls in Vungtau massage parlors. They can't massage really, but 60 minutes FS with such a girl for less than $50 USD is worth a try. The atmosphere is more quiet and reserve, and the girls are somewhat submissive and passive compared to Thai girls. So depends on your preference, if you prefer a more active environment, go for Thailand. If you just want some relax time with a submissive girl then try Vung Tau.
By the way, the water is fine. My favorite swimming spots are the rear beach (Bai Sau) and the small beach by Lan Rung resorts (used to be known as Bai Dua). If you stay at Lan Rung resorts, you can eat and drink during / between swims, they have a restaurant / cafe plus a pool right next to the swimming area. If you stay somewhere else then they will charge a fee for chairs / towels / showers / pool. The beach is supposed to be free for all people, but most people will pay the fees for access to the amenities.
Enjoy you time, wherever you end up going.
Cheers,
Member #4566
08-05-18, 23:15
I would like to pm. Your box is full. I guess you are a popular guy. I am in town. Would like some info or maybe a bowl of pho together for lunch or something.
NguyetLang
08-18-18, 17:09
I would like to pm. Your box is full. I guess you are a popular guy. I am in town. Would like some info or maybe a bowl of pho together for lunch or something.My box is now cleared. I split my time between UAE (work), home in the USA, and my LTR in Vietnam. Hope to be in VN at the right time when you are.
Cheers,
Greetings.
If you had an option to choose a mongering destination between Ho Chi Min Ciyy or Hanoi. What would you choose. The airline of my choice flies direct to both these destinations and I am contemplating a mongering holiday early next year.
I have been several times to Thailand, Philippines and want a change of scenery.
Appreciate you help.
Thanks.
G.
David Cohen
11-05-18, 17:22
Greetings.
If you had an option to choose a mongering destination between Ho Chi Min Ciyy or Hanoi. What would you choose. The airline of my choice flies direct to both these destinations and I am contemplating a mongering holiday early next year.
I have been several times to Thailand, Philippines and want a change of scenery.
Appreciate you help.
Thanks.
G.Ho Chi Minh for sure, more openminded people and more fun city to explore. Enjoy.
Adventurer1
11-05-18, 18:50
Ho Chi Minh for sure, more openminded people and more fun city to explore. Enjoy.Agree Ho Chi Minh by far.
Returning to my home today, and thinking about the 5 days in HCMC. I met 5 ladies from tagged between 30 and 40 years old. One business owner, a hospital worker, hair salon owner and two office staff. Three were kind enough to come to my hotel room. Managed to bed 3, one I rejected because of fake photos and last one just ran out of time. I enjoyed the way they dress! Just a dress with no bra or panties and a pair of shoes. Pull the top of the dress down to expose their boobs and easy access to their shaved pussies. When, I would cum, I would shout "thank you Tagged" Girl asked, who is Tagged? Tried a massage on walking street but that did not go well. I went to a well known hotel and enjoyed the VIP steam and sauna however the the cute 21 year old provider favorite word were "No No" so only a HJ was available. Great hospitality with food and unlimited cocktails at the LE Meriden hotel club lounge. Strict guest policy for guests to leave at 10 pm. OK, by me because I prefer to sleep alone.
Guys,
I'm looking to return to HCMC after a single visit 15 years ago and just want to check if I have my facts straight. I've been mongering in the Philippines and HCMC seems to operate with some significant differences:
Local options seem to be significantly focused towards ST encounters. Thiendia et al seem to offer very cute girls at low prices but there is the (not too hard) language and navigation issues to overcome. The bars in expat / tourist areas seem to have older lookers but at much higher (near unreasonable) prices and come with a hardened attitude to match. Taking them back to a hotel will mean dealing with guest curfews. What idiot thought those up? Similarly, massage and BJ bars are by definition very ST.
While I would never knock back a cheap ST with a young stunner, my preferred option is an all nighter LT. I like to enjoy breakfast 😁 and endless STs gets old fast. You repeatedly do not know what you are going to get vs repeating with a known skilled provider.
My understanding is that 3 star and below hotels don't observe the curfew. Is this universal or do I need to seek out lower end GF hotels to enable an overnighter?
Is LT at a reasonable cost easily achievable online? RTFF indicates that even chat room hookups tend to not stay the whole night but need to get home.
Are Thiendia or chat room girls open to bare back? Again RTFF indicates that going bare is nowhere near as common as the Philippines. Will asking upfront be well received or rejected outright?
Many thanks, G.
NguyetLang
02-06-19, 02:55
I am sharing some of my own experience below. Please know that it may be limited and may not answer all your questions. Hope it helps with what you are looking for.
Guys,
I'm looking to return to HCMC after a single visit 15 years ago and just want to check if I have my facts straight. I've been mongering in the Philippines and HCMC seems to operate with some significant differences:
Local options seem to be significantly focused towards ST encounters. Thiendia et al seem to offer very cute girls at low prices but there is the (not too hard) language and navigation issues to overcome. The bars in expat / tourist areas seem to have older lookers but at much higher (near unreasonable) prices and come with a hardened attitude to match. Taking them back to a hotel will mean dealing with guest curfews. What idiot thought those up? Similarly, massage and BJ bars are by definition very ST.
My experience: Confirm. The majority of Thiendia and kynu.net girls are ST. They are almost always managed by pimps. Independent FL's are rare or don't last long here. The pimps, supported by local LEA, make sure of that. The language problem is mainly because the ones with good English are in Dubai and Singapore making more money. The pimps make the decisions who stays and who goes overseas. The mongers like you and I get the leftovers of the English-speaking Viet girls. The hotel curfew is ONLY selectively enforced on certain hotels, usually those that failed to pay respect to local officials. Those hotels who pay appropriate respect local officials can totally IGNORE the curfew.
While I would never knock back a cheap ST with a young stunner, my preferred option is an all nighter LT. I like to enjoy breakfast 😁 and endless STs gets old fast. You repeatedly do not know what you are going to get vs repeating with a known skilled provider.
My experience: Since LT and independent FL are hard to come by, my best experience are with LTR, that requires some investment in time and efforts, but I find the rewards are well worth the efforts. LTR beats P4P by far because it is real GFE. The only problem I have so far is that some LTR can be very clinging, hard to say goodbye.
My understanding is that 3-star and below hotels don't observe the curfew. Is this universal or do I need to seek out lower end GF hotels to enable an overnighter?
My experience: By nature, 4-star hotels tend to be related to some high ranking officials, they have reputation, and their association can be exploited by political enemies, in that case they must observe the curfew. 3-star hotels are small fishes and must pay respect to local LEA, and get protection by those LEA. These dynamics are hard to understand by foreigners, but if you get the drift, it is very natural.
Is LT at a reasonable cost easily achievable online? RTFF indicates that even chat room hookups tend to not stay the whole night but need to get home.
My experience: My best LT experience are with LTR, next are those advertised on Kynu.net and thiendia with as "qua dem" (overnight). For those LT I usually pay 1.5 mil VND to 3mil per night with MSOG, for certain exceptional, I can go 5 to 10 mil (models, singers, entertainers, PG).
Are Thiendia or chat room girls open to bare back? Again RTFF indicates that going bare is nowhere near as common as the Philippines. Will asking upfront be well received or rejected outright?
My experience: I only go bare back with my LTR. My experience is that if the girl really likes you, she will go all the way, no problem. You may want to think hard about protection though.
Many thanks, G.
Thanks for this. I'm pretty confident I can make a combination of online / BBS STs and Kynu girls who are happy to LT work. Probably more STs than I would normally do but it's a burden I'll have to carry 😁.
I won't have the time or opportunity for a LTR. My stay will only be a couple of weeks and I've found that making false promises is counterproductive.
All the best, G.
I am sharing some of my own experience below. Please know that it may be limited and may not answer all your questions. Hope it helps with what you are looking for.
Returning to my home today, and thinking about the 5 days in HCMC. I met 5 ladies from tagged between 30 and 40 years old. One business owner, a hospital worker, hair salon owner and two office staff. Three were kind enough to come to my hotel room. Managed to bed 3, one I rejected because of fake photos and last one just ran out of time. I enjoyed the way they dress! Just a dress with no bra or panties and a pair of shoes. Pull the top of the dress down to expose their boobs and easy access to their shaved pussies. When, I would cum, I would shout "thank you Tagged" Girl asked, who is Tagged? Tried a massage on walking street but that did not go well. I went to a well known hotel and enjoyed the VIP steam and sauna however the the cute 21 year old provider favorite word were "No No" so only a HJ was available. Great hospitality with food and unlimited cocktails at the LE Meriden hotel club lounge. Strict guest policy for guests to leave at 10 pm. OK, by me because I prefer to sleep alone.Good to know Tagged can work. Curious to know- did you cultivate the Tagged contacts before visiting or only search when on the ground?
Went to 84 NPK at about 2:00 PM on Saturday afternoon. Based on the advice I found on this forum, I walked in like I knew what I was doing. An unattractive girl grabbed my hand and said "upstairs". I said no and motioned that I wanted to look around. Two girls were on the couch sleeping, but woke up and straightened their hair. Two more walked from somewhere in the back room. One of the girls that had been sleeping on the couch was nice looking, with large (but not too big) breasts. I smiled at her and she smiled back, so I motioned for her. She was wearing a tight red dress that showed off her great shape. She grabbed my hand and lead me upstairs to a room where she spread a towel on the table / bed. She motioned for me to get undressed and she left the room for about five minutes. I stripped off my clothes and laid face-down on the table and waited. When she came back into the room she gave me another big smile. She was even nicer looking than I had first thought. She pulled the top of her dress down exposing her perfect breasts, and then stripped off her panties and hiked up her dress, jumped up on the table straddling me and started a half-hearted massage. That lasted for a short time. Maybe three minutes, and then she hopped down and motioned for me to roll over. She stood next to me and started playing with Mr. Happy and let me suck on her nipples. My hand went to her p and began rubbing it, eventually putting my finger inside. She let me kiss her on the lips, but did not open her mouth. After a minute or so, she leaned down and took Mr. Happy into her mouth and began her magic. I payed back and enjoyed it for several minutes all the time playing with her p. Finally I gently tugged on her leg trying to get her to 69 with me. She quickly responded and seemed to genuinely enjoy me eating her out. She finished me off with her hand. I asked her name and she said it was Cho or Jo or something that sounded like that to me. I gave her 400 k and she was very happy. No mama San involved at all. All in all I left a very happy man. Thanks to all of you that gave advice on how to handle yourself when walking into this place.
Folks.
I arrive on the 12 March to Saigon. Is viagra and cialis (original of course) available over the counter in Saigon at pharmacies?
Thanks.
G.
Geneva Guy
03-08-19, 01:10
Folks.
I arrive on the 12 March to Saigon. Is viagra and cialis (original of course) available over the counter in Saigon at pharmacies?
Thanks.
G.Yes no problem just write down the name on a paper or your phone. And show it at the pharmacy.
GG.
Many thanks.
G.
Yes no problem just write down the name on a paper or your phone. And show it at the pharmacy.
GG.
As I end my 1 week stay in HCMC I thought I will let my fellow mongers know what I rate this city for mongering and my experiences.
1. Accomodation: I stayed at a high end 5 star hotel the Rex. It has a lot of history in the hotel for those interested in the history please look it up. I don't want to bore you. The hotel is prime location sandwiches between Ben tanh market and Saigon centre. Prime location for shopping and another 30 k VND taxi to bue vein street, a 5 minute walk to the bars on Pasteur street.
Ok. The hotel rules. I had a suite on the executive wing which meant that any visitor of mine had to be met by me personally and I had to swipe her in the elevator to bring her up. Secondly the hotel allowed visitors for free until 2200 hours. After that they charge about $30 per night to check the lady in my room and will check her out of the system the following morning. But you can sneak her in before 10 pm.
2. Mongering scene: The bars on Pasteur street are a rip off. Don't go there unless you want to look and can't touch or take out. The modus operandi for them is the hire attractive girls and convince the guests to buy more drinks for them and lady drinks. I went to one such bar called Voo and I spotted a girl who had such a loose top and no bra that I could see all that she was trying to hide (failing) . I put my hand from the side of her top to have a mini gripe but she got p!ssed off with me and never came back to my seat. This is surely not how other SEA hostess bars work. Makati, Bangkok, Jakarta, KL Sings you name it. The ladies there are to entertain in every way they can.
The bars on bue vein are surely much more livelier and full of expats and locals wanting to have a good time. I'the Say there are a few places where it may be possible to pick a few FL but with the noise levels so high from the bars it will be quite challenging to actually have a conversation. Having said that there is a possibility. Go 2 Bar and Crazy buffalo has some pretty good girls.
There are loads of street peddlers who have a cycle and try to sell you a short time boom boom. Handle with care. But they have an impressive collection of girls and within 2-3 minutes they will be about 6-8 motorists bringing in girls ranging from 6-8. They bring them at the end of bue vein near YOLO club.
Yolo club: a great location to watch the locals party and see the expats go high on those helium balloons. But IMHO not a place for picking girls.
So then where do we pick girls.
Online platforms: the moment you land get a local sim at the airport.
Install the following apps:
I am naming them in order of success for mongering.
1. Wechat.
2. Badoo (subscribe to premium).
3. Zalo.
4. WhatsApp.
5. Instagram.
There was huge success in wechat and badoo all my girls were free and no money exchanged. They want to be with decent men who know how to look after them. It takes a little bit of work but it's worth it. Again I seriously wouldn't recommend this procedure for all. I may have been lucky. I had a girl with my every night and had 1 girl who I repeated 3 nights. She was a spectacular 21 why spa therapist who I met when having a facial and a pedicure. I may have been lucky again. She took to to bue vein on her scooter and then later met her at YoLo with her sister who was equally hot. As she had already drained me twice in the afternoon I had no energy or juice left in me to take both of them back to the room though that was an option available.
Wechat as loads of ladies some of them look absolutely stunning who offer the full shagang for about 60-80 $ a pop. I never tried anything. But I was inundated with messages and pictures. Looks like a pretty good option for a novice punter.
Badoo was the same but to a smaller scale as it was mixed with girls who were looking for a serious relationship. I met one girl from badoo who was a preschool teacher and all she wanted was sea food. What ensued for a full stomach and two glorious rounds of steamy sex. Again no money exchanged. Let me warn you some of the girls even blocked me when I said I will pay them for the time they spend with me. LOL.
Instagram. Random girls you will have to filter by location for example yolo and then go to the page and click on the girls profile and then send them a message. I must have contacted about 40 and 1 responded back. And she was great. Again free. Wanted to eat sushi and drink sake. LOL.
Massage: there are some lovely massage places in hcmc ranging from seedy to high end. I didn't try any of them from bue vein as IMHO they only offer HJ. I tried a few upscale ones and all offered HJ but I didn't want it and just enjoyed the massage. I don't they any offer FS.
There were the odd masaage spa that came on wechat that offered to send ladies the room for 300 kvnd for 90 minuts and tip to be discussed with the girl.
My conclusion: as I have travelled extensively in SEA and mongered I wouldn't like to recommend this place for a newbie. This place has some of the most beautiful woman but the whole infrastructure is not set up yet.
The hotel, the bars the beer gardens the clubs the masaage shops. All of them have a few negative issues compared to Thailand, or Philippines.
Will I come back. I think I will as I would like to see if I can get lucky the second time.
Take care folks.
G.
Good to know Tagged can work. Curious to know- did you cultivate the Tagged contacts before visiting or only search when on the ground?I contacted one prior to arrival the rest were spontaneous. A few days prior to arrival, might be a good idea.
FlAdventurer
03-21-19, 05:39
I have been on a 5 week tour of SEA, and had stayed at The Rex with friends and had to be careful with monger I got to due to my buddy's wife. They are now gone and I am on my own tonight before heading home.
Your information is valuable and I thank you for showing the way and sharing your intel.
I found a place to schedule a taxi from district 1 to the airport, at a cost of 160. The address is 40/14 Bùi Viện. That is an alley that goes from Bùi Viện street to the street that borders the park and the underground shopping area, toward the end of Bùi Viện past the Crazy Buffalo. It's a place that has rooms for rent. A very nice lady operates everything, rooms and taxi. You prepay her and she gives you a voucher to give to the driver. The driver was at my hotel a few minutes prior to the scheduled time, and a very good ride to the airport.
Manfield04
04-14-19, 19:58
Five years ago, I stayed at Hoang Hai Long Hotel just in front of New World Saigon Hotel. The place is walking distance from Bui Vien. Taxi from airport to hotel was 170 k and from hotel to airport I paid 163 k. Strange the rate more or less the same at 160 k.
I found a place to schedule a taxi from district 1 to the airport, at a cost of 160.
Guys,
I am coming for a solo trip to Vietnam for a week in the third week of May. Can someone please help me with some girl friendly hotels in Hanoi & Ho Chi Minh City Please.
As I end my 1 week stay in HCMC I thought I will let my fellow mongers know what I rate this city for mongering and my experiences.
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Take care folks.
G.Hey Gunner,
Besides, the mongers that live there, it looks like you won this round. I was in VN a few months ago, and the social network game was bad. Luckily I had set up some dates via vietcupid but those took months of chatting, and took like 2 dates before anything could happen. How was your successful wechat profile like to win so many accolades? May I also inquire about your ethnicity? How were you able to talk to them? Anyways, your trip seems like a success story, and I would like to know how to plan better for my next trip.
PI and Thailand are fun and easy, but the girls in VN are just smoking hot but want so much more.
Very smart move Bleble!! VietnamCupid is NOT all that is it advertised!Second that! VC works, but it takes a lot of effort, time, and money, therefore not all that great. I had a few dates off of VC and closed on two. I started talking to them maybe 6 months before I got to VN. Only on the 2nd date I had success, but I was only in HCM for a short time. If you could stay in the same place for maybe a week, VC could work. But with the options of internet girls, and PI and Thailand around the corner, I don't think its worth the investment.
Now if there was a way to search for more promiscuous girls on VC then it would be better. But there just too many and the majority are ultra conservative. One girl I did get back to my room, she was so tight I couldn't penetrate.
Good day,
I will be going to HCMC soon for a few days.
And I'm looking for a female companion who can accompany me for a few days and also be my tour guide.
Anyone knows any contacts or where to find girls who provide such services?
I have had good success with Wechat. People nearby. The girls will contact you. Also Tagged has been great but it takes patience and time to set up the trust needed to score.
Good day,
I will be going to HCMC soon for a few days.
And I'm looking for a female companion who can accompany me for a few days and also be my tour guide.
Anyone knows any contacts or where to find girls who provide such services?
Hey all,
I've been trying to use Vietnam Cupid to line up dates for a trip to Vietnam (for a serious relationship, actually). I'm having an excruciatingly difficult time. Was just wondering if anybody has advice.
I'm trying to get video calls with the girls first. I really don't want to fly to Vietnam without having actually talked to the girls. Also I think if we've had a few video chats it's much more likely to fuck on the first date. Is this the correct strategy?
The problem is that the communication always goes like this:
1) I try to find a topic to talk about. Like ask about their hometown, what they like to do, etc.
Failure State 1: Girl responds with stuff like: "Don't understand. " "Yes. " "Hi. " "Ha. " It's clear the girl can't communicate in English.
2) Some of the girls can actually speak English. We talk and I try to arrange a video conversation. Sometimes I try the first chat; sometimes I try later (but usually the girl becomes steadily less responsive after the first chat).
Failure State 2: Girl says she's too shy and is afraid of talking in English with me. Refuses to do video. I'm like, why the fuck are you on Vietnam Cupid then.
3) Girl reluctantly agrees to video chat or does not respond.
Failure State 3: On arranged time, girl flakes out.
4) I try to text several days later, regardless of whether which failure state we arrived at.
Failure State 4: Girl gradually stops responding to texts.
So what am I doing wrong?
Should I give up on video calls? I really don't want to do that; flying to Vietnam to meet a girl for the first time and then find out we don't like each other sounds like the biggest waste of time and money possible.
What conversation topics should I bring up? I really have no idea what to say after a few days pass. I'm trying to take pictures of my very boring American life and show them to the girls. Maybe that will help.
How do you guys pipeline dates when you arrive in the country?
Hey all,
I've been trying to use Vietnam Cupid to line up dates for a trip to Vietnam (for a serious relationship, actually). I'm having an excruciatingly difficult time.I think they cannot understand you when you speak to them. A lot of time they can read English but cannot verbally communicate because of your accent. They study it wrong for so many years so cannot understand you.
In addition, vnmese girls are often more conservative so it will be difficult to score on the first date. If you score, most likely she is a WG. Good luck.
Bleble is correct. I use Asiandating.com. This time I went on the site too soon and several lost interest but the ones I have contacted recently are excited to meet me. I have found that unlike Filipinas, Vietnamese women take quite awhile to warm up and start chats other than Hi Hello,. I talk general stuff with them which is time consuming, but seems to work in the long run. I never talk about sex until they raise the subject. I find that they will raise the subject by innuendo but don't expect graphic conversations and you shouldn't push it. Most eventually say that they do not like using the dating programs and suggest a move to to a chat program. My program of choice is Skype. As Bleble said, most do not speak English well and are actually typing in a translate program when they are sending messages. Often they can read and write English, but have very limited ability to actually speak so find it uncomfortable. They tend to prefer reverting to typing. Be thankful for that or you will end up with a headache trying to follow and understand what they are saying.
When I move them to Skype we just continue to chat and then start to exchange pictures. They love to show pictures of themselves. They will eventually want get a look at you and ask you to a video message in Skype. They will likely be shy to speak, but tell them up front you don't mind, and you can use Google Translate together later. If their English speaking is limited, the video chats will likely be short but you get to see each other and then revert to typing. Just use it as a chance to joke with them about your video call as they will likely be self conscious and uncomfortable. If I feel we are making progress, I ask them "what would you like like to do together if we meet"? The response is generally "meet for coffee and walk and talk and maybe share a meal together". My response is always ok, you are so short and we will look funny together but it will be fun to walk and talk together using google. Let them see the humor in it so they know you do not have high expectations.
Expecting them to jump into bed with you on a first meeting is unlikely, however I have had some suggest it. Often, I tell them I am going to a hotel or place far enough away that it requires I stay overnight. You would be surprised how many say "I wish I could come to that place" or suggest an alternate place for me to visit. That is your opportunity to say "we can talk about it sometime if you wish". Again, no need to be graphic. If they are agreeing to come and stay with you, you will be rewarded.
I tend to move around quite a bit in Vietnam. I will be traveling from Saigon to Hanoi by planes, trains and automobiles. But if I am staying in one city for awhile I always use the out that I will be going to Cambodia to meet and visit my foreign daughter who is also visiting Cambodia. If they question it, blow $20.00 and buy a bus ticket to show them. Problem solved. I am using this excuse on my trip next week. I use it with every woman I meet just so I have an easy escape. I have told the first two ladies I am meeting that we can only meet for one night as I have to leave for Cambodia the next day. The third will replace the first two the next day, then traveling with me to Pho Quok the next day for two days. Thank you Bonita Signature Hotel that was recommended to me in a previous thread. I'm hoping for the Bonita Signature trifecta. The second one is a bit of a head scratcher for me. She is gorgeous and has sent me many pictures that look like they are staged. Since we have started to chat on Skype, the name has changed and the pictures have been toned down. I have seen her on video chat and she matches the pictures, but there is something with her that is odd. I'll arrange get a separate hotel with a safe to store for my cash, wallet, and passport until I can figure out what her game is.
Finally ask them for their phone number. I have never been refused. I tell them that I will not be on the dating sites or Skype while I am traveling. That gives me some privacy, and of course if you don't answer it simply means that you are still away in Cambodia and can't be reached in Cambodia with a Vietnamese SIM card. I always keep Skype on invisible.
That's my M.O. with appropriate modifications to suit the situation.
When I move them to Skype we just continue to chat and then start to exchange pictures. They love to show pictures of themselves. They will eventually want get a look at you and ask you to a video message in Skype.How long does it take for you to get to this point of video chats? Two weeks? A month?
Also, how do you get them to show pictures of themselves? What's your conversational strategy there?
I just sent a picture I took of my commute and got decent responses. I think sending pictures of my daily life is a decent strategy.
Seriously? You are concerned about 7 k (30 cents) difference? Not sure about Vietnamese taxis, but everywhere else the price is a combination of distance and time, and so it'll cost more if there was more traffic.
Five years ago, I stayed at Hoang Hai Long Hotel just in front of New World Saigon Hotel. The place is walking distance from Bui Vien. Taxi from airport to hotel was 170 k and from hotel to airport I paid 163 k. Strange the rate more or less the same at 160 k.
MutantChicken
09-17-19, 13:11
Seriously? You are concerned about 7 k (30 cents) difference? Not sure about Vietnamese taxis, but everywhere else the price is a combination of distance and time, and so it'll cost more if there was more traffic.Seriously, you are concerned with a post 6 mths back, seriously you read his post and you interpreted it as him being concerned with a 7 k difference rather than him commenting that the price of taxi hasn't changed in 5 yrs.
Seriously you didn't read a few reports rather just read one post from a poster who has a reputation of exaggerating and thus didn't get the service you expected then came here to vent.
Seriously you would ask about places to get a BJ massage when a mere few posts before yours someone posted a report where he got a BJ in a massage. Seriously some guys nowadays. Seriously.
Seriously, re-reading the taxi post, it still isn't that obvious to me that the focus was on the time difference.
Seriously, how was I supposed to know that guy was an exaggerator. And yes, I did have a list of to-do places, but just happened to stop at DN while walking to another place.
Seriously, I have a decent track record in my posts and don't post too much nonsense-though I concede that these were at the low end of quality.
Seriously, you are concerned with a post 6 mths back, seriously you read his post and you interpreted it as him being concerned with a 7 k difference rather than him commenting that the price of taxi hasn't changed in 5 yrs.
Seriously you didn't read a few reports rather just read one post from a poster who has a reputation of exaggerating and thus didn't get the service you expected then came here to vent.
Seriously you would ask about places to get a BJ massage when a mere few posts before yours someone posted a report where he got a BJ in a massage. Seriously some guys nowadays. Seriously.
Hi guys,
Experienced traveller here, including most of SE Asia. I have been to northern Vietnam for sightseeing, but did not punt there. I am now considering a short trip (a little over a week there) to see HCMC, Nha Trang, Hue, and all the nice places to the south. But at night, I was also thinking of getting some action.
Can someone clarify something for me. Is punting legal? I mean, I know its "illegal" almost everywhere, including Thailand. But its tolerated as long as its contained. But now that I am researching HCMC, I am trying to get a feel for the situation. I know that it won't match Thailand for extravagance and pervasiveness. I just want to know that I can find some venues and have fun at night without having to worry about LE. Because if that's the case, I may just go to Thailand again.
If there are differences or precautions that need to be taken, can someone elaborate?
Thanks in advance!
I am nowhere near a full expert but having been to BKK a few times and living in hcmc for over 2 years now, I have to say the level of service is a lot better in BKK. The only positive side in HCMC would be that it's considerably cheaper than BKK but you have to find the right spots for that.
In general, it's quite a lot of bargaining almost always so it sucks big time to start like that. GIrls usually start to quote handjobs from 700 k or 1 mil and you have to move them down to 5-300 but sometimes not even possible. If you visit outer hot tocs you could get a blowjob with BBBJCIM for 200-250 k vnd but the tourist areas will be filled with massages for 1 hour, meaning a lousy 25 minute tap on the back and a handjob / whatever they upsell to you (mostly including FS as well around Bui Vien (for 1 m+ and 300-500 ish for handjobs. You have to be quite lucky because to be honest, the best performer for me was the cheapest and she works at Bui vien, with massive nice fake racks, she is 21 or 19 I forgot and does a standard 200+300 price for a handjob and tits groping. Most would say it's too much as well but compared to other girls in the area, she is actually very decently priced and looks the best.
If you don't mind "the hunt" and disappointment, you will like HCMC. But it's nowhere near the well oiled machine and service level as BKK (albeit cheaper).
Hi guys,
Experienced traveller here, including most of SE Asia. I have been to northern Vietnam for sightseeing, but did not punt there. I am now considering a short trip (a little over a week there) to see HCMC, Nha Trang, Hue, and all the nice places to the south. But at night, I was also thinking of getting some action.
Can someone clarify something for me. Is punting legal? I mean, I know its "illegal" almost everywhere, including Thailand. But its tolerated as long as its contained. But now that I am researching HCMC, I am trying to get a feel for the situation. I know that it won't match Thailand for extravagance and pervasiveness. I just want to know that I can find some venues and have fun at night without having to worry about LE. Because if that's the case, I may just go to Thailand again.
Franciscass
11-19-19, 06:09
Its my first post in the Vietnam thread but I've been to HCMc a number of times last been 4 to 5 years ago.
Bringing a girl back to a decent hotel was a problem then and I had a to book a second smaller cheaper place on nights I did this.
I've RTFF for the past 15 minutes without finding much on which good hotels are girl friendly so I'm asking if any of you regulars can help.
Greatly appreciated and would be happy to buy you a beer when I get there in a couple of weeks.
NguyetLang
11-20-19, 06:24
Its my first post in the Vietnam thread but I've been to HCMc a number of times last been 4 to 5 years ago.
Bringing a girl back to a decent hotel was a problem then and I had a to book a second smaller cheaper place on nights I did this.
I've RTFF for the past 15 minutes without finding much on which good hotels are girl friendly so I'm asking if any of you regulars can help.
Greatly appreciated and would be happy to buy you a beer when I get there in a couple of weeks.Most of hotels in the backpacker area I. E. Bui Vien in D1 are girl friendly. In contrast, most 4-star hotels and above are NOT girl friendly. This may be counter-intuitive, but most high end hotels are associated with high ranking officials, they must avoid scandals, while three star and below are small fishes and they must pay regular fees to local officials for their operations. High end hotels must maintain their status thus they are more likely to be strict on girl. Most hotels in the Bui Vien area are three stars or less, and definitely girl friendly.
NguyetLang
11-20-19, 06:37
Hi guys,
Experienced traveller here, including most of SE Asia. I have been to northern Vietnam for sightseeing, but did not punt there. I am now considering a short trip (a little over a week there) to see HCMC, Nha Trang, Hue, and all the nice places to the south. But at night, I was also thinking of getting some action.
Can someone clarify something for me. Is punting legal? I mean, I know its "illegal" almost everywhere, including Thailand. But its tolerated as long as its contained. But now that I am researching HCMC, I am trying to get a feel for the situation. I know that it won't match Thailand for extravagance and pervasiveness. I just want to know that I can find some venues and have fun at night without having to worry about LE. Because if that's the case, I may just go to Thailand again.
If there are differences or precautions that need to be taken, can someone elaborate?
Thanks in advance!Punting is illegal in VN but most of the time the penalty for johns are just admin fee like 500 k to couple M VND. You can be released as quick as immediately after money paid, usually no receipt, of course. However, pimp and underage girls are strictly enforced, with severe penalty. Make sure you don't get involved with under age girls. The pimps are treat different because the LE knows they are the ones with most money and they can extract a bigger prize out of those pimps.
Punting are considered safe in D1, D8, and D10. If you don't speak the language, I would recommend stay and punt just around D1.
Franciscass
11-20-19, 08:09
Most of hotels in the backpacker area I. E. Bui Vien in D1 are girl friendly. In contrast, most 4-star hotels and above are NOT girl friendly. This may be counter-intuitive, but most high end hotels are associated with high ranking officials, they must avoid scandals, while three star and below are small fishes and they must pay regular fees to local officials for their operations. High end hotels must maintain their status thus they are more likely to be strict on girl. Most hotels in the Bui Vien area are three stars or less, and definitely girl friendly.Many thanks, unfortunately pretty much what I was expecting. I was hoping it might have changed from my last visit but apparently not. I usually stay 4 or 5 star but an above average 3 star with no hassle will have to suffice. Thanks again.
Franciscass
11-23-19, 07:44
Many thanks, unfortunately pretty much what I was expecting. I was hoping it might have changed from my last visit but apparently not. I usually stay 4 or 5 star but an above average 3 star with no hassle will have to suffice. Thanks again.A quickie from anybody with local knowledge. Which hotel.
Empress D1.
Boss D3.
Thien Tung D1.
NguyetLang
11-29-19, 05:52
A quickie from anybody with local knowledge. Which hotel.
Empress D1.
Boss D3.
Thien Tung D1.I have stayed in all three, they are all GF. In fact, most hotels on Bui Thi Xuan street (same street as Empress Hotel) are girl friendly. Remember to book room for 2 (always). Boss was a targeted raid by LE not long ago because someone forgot to pay the officials. I heard that all past dues are now paid in full and more, so everything is fine and everyone is happy now.
Cheers,
Crazy4Thai
12-01-19, 06:44
Arriving from Thailand tomorrow for my first VN experience. It is clear to me that there are many differences punting in Thailand compared to Vietnam. Based on that I assume that I will not find any sex toys for sale on this trip, is that correct?
Arriving from Thailand tomorrow for my first VN experience. It is clear to me that there are many differences punting in Thailand compared to Vietnam. Based on that I assume that I will not find any sex toys for sale on this trip, is that correct?There are a few KISS vn shops around, so you are not that hopeless.
Franciscass
12-02-19, 06:08
I have stayed in all three, they are all GF. In fact, most hotels on Bui Thi Xuan street (same street as Empress Hotel) are girl friendly. Remember to book room for 2 (always). Boss was a targeted raid by LE not long ago because someone forgot to pay the officials. I heard that all past dues are now paid in full and more, so everything is fine and everyone is happy now.
Cheers,Thanks. Went with Empress.
Crazy4Thai
12-02-19, 07:19
There are a few KISS vn shops around, so you are not that hopeless.It was interesting to see just that on my. Way to the hotel. Thanks.
So this is my first report here after reading secretly for a while now. I wasn't sure about the thread, so please move it, when it's wrong here. Thanks!
I travelled 35 days through Vietnam and did some mongering too, so maybe I can give some useful information, even though I highly doubt it:
I only found girls in Hanoi and HCMC. Also 1 girl from danang in hoi an. The rest was a dead desert. I have to point out though, that I mostly visited smaller cities in the centre.
1) I started in Hanoi and went to the Mai Spa. The building is OK and the rooms nothing special, but do their job. A chubby girl entered the room and I probably could have said no, but that's not really my thing. I would give her a generous 4. But her attitude was actually quite good and she seemed to like her job. She was smiling and really happy when I finished (more hand job, than BJ). All in all it wasn't bad and I would give the experience a 6.
2) I also went to nuru massage parlour, but didn't like the entrance at all, so I went to wechat and line and used the people nearby option. The girl in Hanoi was OK. Older than on the picture, but she made me come twice, which isn't easy (I'm over 40 and things are becoming much more difficult).
3) In hoi an isn't anything of interest (in any case) so again I went with nearby option. Her name was Jolie and she is really hard to judge. Looks maybe 4-5 (again a bit chubby). Very whiny character. You always hear: I'm such a poor girl, I can't do this, I can't do that bla bla bla. But in the end she does everything you want. So far she was the only one to allow me to cum in her mouth. Overall experience: again a 6 I would say. (very overpriced though, because she came from Danang. She wanted 3 mill for overnight, which I was only able to bargain down to 2. 5).
3) one funny experience in hue. I met an OK looking girl and we spend the day together. I paid for lunch, karaoke and even gas and fruits for her mom! Then she still wanted 1 mill to fuck her. I declined.
4) HCMC: puh. So many options, but not many I liked. The blow Job bars are just not my thing at all. Shabby looking building, sleazy old men trying to lure you in. From what I saw none of the girls were very attractive. But I hate these sexy looking dresses they wear, so maybe that clouded my judgement. Little Tokyo area has gorgeous looking girls, but ridiculous prices. I'm not going to pay 3 million for 1 session. That's just not my thing.
So I went back to my usual people nearby method. I'm not going to report every girl in detail here, but this option is really hit and miss. I had 1 unbelievable woman (yes, she is pretty old by modern standards, but so am I), who gave me an orgasm I haven't had in a long time. I was still shaking 2 minutes after. No CIM or on her face though, but great GFE.
I also had 1 terrible and 1 pretty bad experience. The terrible one was with 2 girls and now I think that was the mistake. My favourite girl was actually quite lovely, but I really wanted to try out 2 girls, so I booked another one (the text messages on line were quite clear that I was talking to the pimp). The second girl was just horrible. Bad attitude, no feeling for timing etc. At the end I couldn't even come. She wanted an extra tip, which I declined. She started to scream and got really angry. She took my wallet and grabbed my money. Luckily I am prepared for this kind of BS in Asia and had only 20 euros and 150 Chinese yuan in my wallet. Anything of value was safely hidden in the hotel safe. Always book with a hotel safe!
The bad experience was similar, but without the robbing. I'm going to meet 1 more tonight. If she is really good, I'll let you guys know, but I have my doubts.
My Tips for wechat, line etc.
Be prepared that all Fotos are photoshopped (no scams though, all girls who came were the ones on the Foto).
Try to go out for a coffee first to test her attitude. There are some bad crazy chicks out there.
One general tip: don't always go with the youngest and hottest. In my experience they are far more often only interested in the money and very mechanical. Don't be afraid to go for the older or uglier ones if they seem friendly and motivated. Motivation and attitude is far more important than looks (at least for me).
As I have said in my previous posts, I am a fan of dating sites. Generally I have had pretty good luck and have been able to weed out the normal ladies from scammers, and those who are obviously only P4 P. I was in Vietnam in September and October and planned to come back in February and March. Thankfully, common sense prevailed and I cancelled my trip before the lock down. What I noticed starting in about mid December was regular ladies who I was chatting with normally about the usual range of topics such as family, places to visit, their work, meeting and traveling together etc seem to be more open to suggesting help when I come there. These are generally ladies in their late thirties to mid forties. In my previous experience these types of ladies never raised the issue of needing funds. Over time, after we have developed a rapport I have had more and more mention to me that they could use a bit of financial assistance when we meet. Surprisingly a significant number of these ladies are divorced or single employed teachers who while not working are still receiving their full wage while being able to work due to the ongoing school closures. They are asking for funds when we are together, not before I arrive. When I ask how much they need the answer is almost always the same"up to you". Unlike Filipinas, asking for assistance from Vietnamese web sites is a new experience for me.
An interesting story about my last trip was meeting a lady who I suspected was P4 P and who had no interest in ongoing chats. She simply said contact me when you arrive and we will meet. She is a very attractive slim mid thirties woman. I called her and she arrived immediately. We went for a walk at the market where she immediately saw a purse she needed, but of course had left her wallet at home. 250,000 D, but I played along and then it was time for lunch at a somewhat expensive restaurant. She then had to go home to care for her son who she said had broken his arm. We met the next day and she pointed out that it was National Women's Day. In fact I knew that Women's Day was the next day but again I played along. We walked to a high end shopping center where she started to look at clothes. I knew where this was going and told her to enjoy her shopping and disappeared, not giving her a chance to ask for me to buy her something. She then walked to a high end restaurant where I had a glass of juice and she had a meal that set me back 1. 3 M. Back at my room we played around a bit when she announced the she had her lady's day which would be done tomorrow. She then said she was short of money for her son's care and needed 1 M but we would meet tomorrow. I gave her half of what she said she needed. We met the next day and walked around a bit, then I took her back to my room and after questioning me about a condom we finally sealed the deal BB as I told her I had a vasectomy. I left her with the other 500,000 and that was that. Sadly, it wasn't even that memorable, but if any senior members here would like her AsianDating.com ID and you can be discrete, PM me and you can try your luck, but I see her profile is currently turned off.
Stay safe there everyone.
Captain Solo
03-29-20, 19:36
I stayed at Thien Tung before.
Front desk never questioned the girls I took to my room.
Situation may have changed but you can always try to bribe the front desk.
I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.
I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.
So far research has identified:
Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.
Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.
Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?
Thanks. G.
Pinchitter
04-17-20, 10:09
I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.
I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.
So far research has identified:
Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.
Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.
Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?
Thanks. G.No contest mate. Give the Nam a miss. But let's examine your assumptions:
PH= nothing to disagree with there.
VN= First point I would say NOPE to "at all price points", though I agree in better lookers overall. If you're comparing prices then again, it's hands down Phils, especially if you care to factor in performance at all. At each and every price point, you're much more likely to get shit service here.
Therefore I take issue most of all with the phrase "copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions". It's probably true that this can be accomplished with non-pros if you are young, fit, and handsome. And have some game. Even then it often takes a bit of time, better for residents than tourists. The only thing that rings true about this statement is NPK street and other blow-and-go's, but overall the quality is lower than what you can find with minimal effort in the islands.
Trust me, I'm not the only one who's been wishing I was there instead of here over the last month!
Hi guys, I have a 'ahem' friend in Nha trang and she has lost her job, I've never given her or sent her money before.
Do you know of the best way to send money there, I'm not sure if she has a bank account as she has not asked for money. Any advice is appreciated, it won't be a large amount, about 100 GBP (120 USD).
Hi guys, I have a 'ahem' friend in Nha trang and she has lost her job, I've never given her or sent her money before.
Do you know of the best way to send money there, I'm not sure if she has a bank account as she has not asked for money. Any advice is appreciated, it won't be a large amount, about 100 GBP (120 USD)Transferwise is reasonable but only to a bank account. Western Union for cash pickup. If you haven't used them before they have fee free incentives for the first transaction.
Hi guys, I have a 'ahem' friend in Nha trang and she has lost her job, I've never given her or sent her money before.
Do you know of the best way to send money there, I'm not sure if she has a bank account as she has not asked for money. Any advice is appreciated, it won't be a large amount, about 100 GBP (120 USD).Hello,
I tried to transfer money via.
Bank to my 'Ahem' friend's bank account when.
She was in a similar crisis. The money neither got.
Deposited in her account (her words) nor did it get credit back as a result of faulty transaction. A similar transaction to my travel operator failed but money got credited in my account. They are details like ABN number / routing number you need for proper bank transfer along with account details. It's frankly a pain in rear. And there is long wait for the transfer to happen. Paypal worked fine for me and money got transferred within minutes to my travel agent in Vietnam.
Bottomline: banks are the hard way to do. Try Paypal / western union etc. Transferwise sounded like a scam from what I read but might be legit.
Hi guys, I have a 'ahem' friend in Nha trang and she has lost her job, I've never given her or sent her money before.
Do you know of the best way to send money there, I'm not sure if she has a bank account as she has not asked for money. Any advice is appreciated, it won't be a large amount, about 100 GBP (120 USD).From USA you can do it online. You will need to make sure she has the proper ID to pick up the money. Get her exact name on the proper ID, address and cell number to send to her.
remitly.com
riamoneytransfer.com
ABoneDaddy
04-17-20, 18:57
Hi guys, I have a 'ahem' friend in Nha trang and she has lost her job, I've never given her or sent her money before.
Do you know of the best way to send money there, I'm not sure if she has a bank account as she has not asked for money. Any advice is appreciated, it won't be a large amount, about 100 GBP (120 USD).Paypal using Xoom is quick and easy. In HCMC they will deliver it to your house free. Need ID. To receive or pick up at bank with no accounts needed. 2. 99 USD per transaction if you send VND via Xoom / Paypal.
I'm not sure what country your living in, but I looked at trying to wire $50 US via Western Union. The logistics were an obstructive pain in the a. And getting it delivered was prohibitively expensive. I finally spoke to a local Vietnamese tailor that I deal with and asked for her advice. She in turn put me in touch with a local Vietnamese business, part of who's services include wiring money point yo point. The service was perfect. It took about two days to be received in HCM and was personally delivered to my ummm friend's home. The cost of the transfer was $3. 00. Copies of her ID were not needed. I simply gave them her name and address.
On that note, messages requesting assistance from Vietnam are certainly becoming more and more frequent. Frequent enough that I double check to make sure I am not logging onto a Filipino web site.
Good luck.
Nut.
ABoneDaddy
04-18-20, 10:24
From USA you can do it online. You will need to make sure she has the proper ID to pick up the money. Get her exact name on the proper ID, address and cell number to send to her.
remitly.com
riamoneytransfer.comAlso, Paypal is instant with text confirmations to both parties. If you send USD it is $8.99 vs. 2.99 if you send VND. If the receiver has a paypal account it is free to send and receive.
To paypal account. If you send VND the exchange rate is close but they skim a little. Send it to yourself if travelling and it waits to be picked up at any large bank with no other fees. Cancel transactions anytime within 90 days if not needed. You tie to a bank account or CC to send via paypal with no US bank fees. 10 minutes to open paypal and xoom accounts.
Thanks for the advice GD, naz, DG, AB and nut, and the PMs, it is much appreciated.
I've got PayPal so will try this and Xoom.
It's tough out there for some of our 'ahem' friends who are struggling. It's easy to be sceptical but I'm sure we all know deserving cases.
Thanks jingo.
For anyone visiting Vietnam for the first time, get yourself a sponsor that can help you with necessary paper work to enter the country, most importantly before you take off make sure you have a visa / evisa. A friend of mine had trouble at customs where they basically tried to extort him in order for him to get into the country.
For anyone visiting Vietnam for the first time, get yourself a sponsor that can help you with necessary paper work to enter the country, most importantly before you take off make sure you have a visa / evisa. A friend of mine had trouble at customs where they basically tried to extort him in order for him to get into the country.On my first visit to VN, I traveled alone and had no issues entering. In fact, I had my carry on bag and two large boxes (check in) which I was sure customs would want to open and inspect. (Since I travel light, friends asked if I would use my allowance of two check in bags to bring goods to their relatives.) My paperwork was in good order, and I was just waved through immigration. I think the only issue the previous traveler had was that they arrived in country without a visa in hand. If you know you are going to travel to VN, why wouldn't you plan ahead and get a visa before leaving?
For anyone visiting Vietnam for the first time, get yourself a sponsor that can help you with necessary paper work to enter the country, most importantly before you take off make sure you have a visa / evisa. A friend of mine had trouble at customs where they basically tried to extort him in order for him to get into the country.I agree with getting a visa before getting on the flight. Here in Australia the visa process is simple and only takes 3 days. All you need is travel itinerary, details of hotel. You do not need to make the booking. You also don't need a sponsor for tourist visa. Mind you the rules may be different for different countries. It's best to check their Embassies web site the country you are in. There was however a warning about a fraudulent visa site. Booking hotels and travel plan is easy. The only problem in Vietnam is not everyone will speak English. So if you are patient and put some effort you can have a good holiday. The internet is quite good and is free in lot of places.
Captain Solo
02-04-22, 21:37
Fully vacc tourists still have to isolate for 3 days.
But where? How?
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-to-open-up-further-after-tet-4423349.html
Vietnam, which has been resuming aviation, tourism and education activities after nearly two years of restrictions due to Covid-19, is set to lift more restrictions after Tet.
The Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam has restarted flights to and from nine cities: Tokyo, Seoul, Taipei, Bangkok, Singapore, Vientiane, Phnom Penh, San Francisco and LOS Angeles.
Chinese authorities have yet to approve requests for flights to Beijing and Guangzhou.
In recent weeks Vietnam airlines has also been organizing flights to Australia, the U. K, France, and Germany.
Next week Bamboo Airways will start flying to Germany, the U. K and Australia.
Foreign visitors to Vietnam are required to furnish negative PCR Covid-19 test results, and rapid tests are no longer required on arrival.
People who are fully vaccinated or have recovered from Covid-19 have to self-isolate at home for three days.
A seven-day isolation period is applicable for those who have not got two shots.
Tourists are also required to have medical insurance cover for Covid treatment worth at least $50,000.
The Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism is gradually resuming inbound tourism.
Localities that have given its people a third shot or are identified as "green" zones can allow in foreign travelers.
On March 31, Vietnam plans to fully reopen to tourists, with the tourism ministry considering the timing appropriate since by then the entire adult population would have received three doses.
The government gingerly reopened to international tourism last November when 29 travelers arrived in Hoi An Town.
Since then the country has received 8,500 tourists, mostly from Russia, South Korea, Singapore, the U. K, and the USA.
The government is also set to let 17.1 million students, or 75.7 percent of everyone from kindergarten to 12th grade, return to school next week.
Tran Dac Phu, a senior consultant at the Vietnam Public Health Emergency Operation Center, said after the Tet holidays, which end Sunday, is a good time to resume socio-economic activities since 96 percent of the population has been administered two vaccine doses.
Though restrictions have been relaxed the pandemic remains under control, which allows further opening, he said.
The country should make it easy for foreign travelers to enter to boost tourism, he added.
Captain Solo
02-08-22, 22:54
This info from US Embassy is old.
Vietnam is reported to fully open for international visitors after March 1, 2022.
There is no mention of any test upon arrival.
https://vn.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/
Beginning January 1, 2022, passengers entering Vietnam are only required to self-isolate at their residence for three (3) days if they meet certain conditions specified by the Vietnamese Ministry of Health. Quarantine is not required for visitors staying in Vietnam for less than 14 days. Detailed instructions, including information for entrants who have not been fully vaccinated, are available on the Vietnamese government's website. The 14-day quarantine period applies to confirmed COVID-19 patients in Vietnam and any individual considered high-risk (e. G. Those with recent contact with confirmed COVID-19 cases or with recent travel history to outbreak areas identified by the Vietnamese government). Please also note that the Vietnamese government may extend quarantine periods or impose post-quarantine movement restrictions if deemed necessary to minimize the spread of an outbreak. USA Citizens with questions about this issue should contact the Vietnamese authorities directly. The USA Mission in Vietnam may not intervene in these policies in any way.
...
Vietnam is reported to fully open for international visitors after March 1, 2022.
There is no mention of any test upon arrival.
https://vn.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/
...So glad to hear this. I have a Singapore air ticket that's due to expire June of this year. This was a credit from a Covid canceled 2020 trip to Europe. I can schedule a trip to Vietnam and possibly Thailand as well. Woohoo!
Captain Solo
02-13-22, 18:02
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/vietnam-end-covid-curbs-international-flights-feb-15-2022-02-13/
"Vietnam will lift restrictions on international flights starting February 15. The frequency of flights will be restored to pre-pandemic level," Tuoi Tre said, citing Dinh Viet Son, deputy director of the Civil Aviation Administration of Vietnam.
Vietnam has already informed its partners about that new policy and only China has not yet agreed to resume commercial flights with Vietnam, Son was quoted as saying.
Captain Solo
02-13-22, 18:58
Lefeu,
Singapore air flies Airbus A350's on that route. A350's have paint peeling problems exposing carbon fiber composite structure in critical areas, fuselage, wings, tail, rudder. Airbus could not keep paint to stick on their planes. Al Qatar shows many pics of badly damaged skin and is embroiling in vicious fights with lawsuits against Airbus.
Air friction can probably tear the skin off and rupture the highly-pressurized structure. I would hate to fall out of an aircraft without a parachute.
You may want to search JAL, Ana, Korea Air flying B777 and B787, definitely safer in many ways.
Singapore Airlines 37 SIA37 / SQ37.
Aircraft Type Airbus A350-900 (twin-jet) (A359).
Airline Singapore Airlines "Singapore".
Speed 539 mph (Planned: 566 mph).
Altitude 38,000 ft (Planned: 34,000 ft).
Distance Direct: 8,772 mi.
Air friction can probably tear the skin off and rupture the highly-pressurized structure. I would hate to fall out of an aircraft without a parachute.You really think that it is the paint holding the aircraft together? If it was a safety issue would the aircraft not be grounded? Yes trust Boeing who lied on their airworthiness certificates!
Captain Solo
02-15-22, 00:47
Yep.
Air friction at 650 MPH can tear off lots of hard layers, unraveling skin underneath. The carbon fiber skin is also a part of the pressurized structure. Any stress point would potentially compromise structure integrity.
Even military jets with hard alloy skin would tear their skins apart at low, subsonic speed, rupture and disintegrate, when hit by small caliber rounds.
Al Qatar did ground all 18 or so of their A350's.
Explorer8939
02-15-22, 13:02
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/vietnam-end-covid-curbs-international-flights-feb-15-2022-02-13/
"Vietnam will lift restrictions on international flights starting February 15. The frequency of flights will be restored to pre-pandemic level," Tuoi Tre said, citing Dinh Viet Son, deputy director of the Civil Aviation Administration of Vietnam.
Vietnam has already informed its partners about that new policy and only China has not yet agreed to resume commercial flights with Vietnam, Son was quoted as saying.The 3 day isolation is a bit of a killer. Maybe I could do it if I were traveling with a lady friend.
Locamotive
02-15-22, 20:09
The 3 day isolation is a bit of a killer. Maybe I could do it if I were traveling with a lady friend.Friends,
I have there say March 31st for open tourism. Got a few girls there but think its better to wait. Other places open. Why fool with that.
Captain Solo
02-15-22, 23:49
The 3 day isolation was old, until Jan 1, 2022.
After Feb 15 I read somewhere that the new requirement is 1-day self quarantine.
I would wait a few more weeks for things to clear up.
A friend with 3 Moderna shots got infected but symptoms were mild, loss of taste and smell, some coughing, for 15 days so far. The spouse lives in the same house and went everywhere together never got infected. A theory says people, who travel a lot, have contacts with lots of people and exposed to lots of pathogens, seem to build up immunity to CoVid so they don't get infected. Before vacc, I went to lost of places in Central and South America, also got intimate with lots of girls in Tijuana's cramped and damp speakeasies. Never got infected. A couple wingmen got vacc but still got infected.
Doctors get exposed to a lot of people and pathogens too, did not seem to boost their immunity. Before Vaccs were available I know 4 healthy local doctors, in their mid 40's and 50's, died of CoVid.
Banana Boi
02-16-22, 05:56
The 3 day isolation is a bit of a killer. Maybe I could do it if I were traveling with a lady friend.The 1 or 3 day quarantine is irrelevant to 99% of us. Vietnam is not issuing tourist visas unless you enter with a tour group. As of February 16, the earliest date I have heard for unrestricted regular Visa on Arrival is March 15.
Government ministries have sought to reopen Vietnam for international tourism sometime between March 15 and the end of April, subject to approvals and in line with Vietnams strategy of opening up and living with the virus.
Captain Solo
03-01-22, 09:04
Just got this email from State Dept:
USA Mission Vietnam.
Message for USA Citizens.
Level 4 Travel Warning for Vietnam.
March 1, 2022.
On February 28,2022 the USA Department of State updated its Travel Advisory for Vietnam and raised the Travel Advisory Level to Level 4: Do Not Travel. This upgrade reflects the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Level 4 Health Travel Notice indicating that there is a very high level of COVID-19 in Vietnam. For more information, please refer to the advisory and CDC notice.
The COVID-19 situation in Vietnam is constantly changing and varies from province to province. All USA Citizens are advised to check with local friends, landlords, employers, or ward-level government officials to be aware of the most up-to-date information for each ward, district, or city. Government of Vietnam regulations regarding business operations, quarantine, movement, and travel restrictions in all parts of Vietnam can change with little notice.
Banana Boi
03-01-22, 20:24
USA Department of State updated its Travel Advisory for Vietnam and raised the Travel Advisory Level to Level 4: Do Not Travel. This upgrade reflects the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) Level 4 Health Travel Notice indicating that there is a very high level of COVID-19 in Vietnam. I don't get it. USA has 26 million active cases for 334 million population. Vietnam has under 1 million active cases for nearly 100 million people. I think my math is good enough to figure out Vietnam is MUCH safer for COVID than the USA. Regardless, we are all tripe and quadruple vaxx'd now so imo it's safe to travel anywhere and time for all countries to allow triple vaxx'd people in with no quarantine or PCR testing.
Captain Solo
03-01-22, 21:09
130 countries are in CDC's level 4, including some of the most popular spots.
I traveled to Mexico just about every week and to many Latin America countries before I got any vaccine, spent most of my time partying with girls in cramped, hot, humid speak easies. Did not get infected.
A few relatives work in healthcare, had 3 shots of vaccines, still got infected recently and brought it home. Their symptoms were mild, cough, runny nose, light fever, dragged out over 2 weeks. The children were infected with mild symptoms but recovered within 1 week.
I can live with 1-day quarantine and a travel health insurance for $10 K. Based on past experiences, infection risks are low and symptoms mild with 3 shots of vaccines.
https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/cdc-adds-vietnam-to-level-4-travel-advisory-list
The agency classifies destinations as "Level 4" if there are more than 500 COVID-19 cases reported per 100,000 people over the last 28 days.
The CDC recommends that anyone who does travel to a "Level 4" destination is "vaccinated and up to date with your COVID-19 vaccines before travel," but warns, "Even if you are up to date with your COVID-19 vaccines, you may still be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19. ".
Currently, the country is seeing a spike in new COVID-19 cases, reporting more than 95,000 new infections per day, according to Reuters. Currently, more than 130 destinations are considered "Level 4," including some of the most popular tourist spots like Mexico, Canada, Aruba, Spain, Italy, and France.
When Vietnam does open, international travelers will be expected to be fully vaccinated within the past six months as well as test negative for COVID-19 before their departure and then again upon arrival in the country. Travelers will also be required to quarantine for the first day of their trip and carry travel medical coverage for up to $10,000.
USA Travelers will be required to obtain a visa for travel to Vietnam.
Vietnam's decision to open comes as several other neighboring destinations have started welcoming Americans. Last month, the tourist hotspot Bali reopened to travelers, the Philippines reopened to fully vaccinated visitors, and Thailand reintroduced quarantine-free travel to the country.
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