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I think your are wrong about the exchange rate. Now the exchange rate is about 1usd=16,200 vnd, so a shag is about 7.5 usd. From what I heard the price for the locals would be the same. It is only that they can talk to the pimps and tell the pimps the types of girls they want. And of course you have to see the girls and decide if you want them or not. If you don't then just say "next".
If you go see my post, I had edited it a while a go to correct the wrong exchange rate result I came up with.
It's never easy to get it all right when you are filing a report with a beer in hand etc. Thanks for the pointing it out too because it is a huge difference between US$7.50 and US$20/-
Perhaps, the price difference between my local information and my own visit is the timing between their visit and mine ; a gap of more than a year. Language is always a significant item that makes difference between a good fuck and a great fuck for sure! That said, with a very few rare girls, it's totally ANIMAL.
Went for a little walk along the lake near the Daewoo at about 10pm when the sound of little sandals comes running up from behind me. Exhausted from the 50 yard dash, she expresses a sigh then turns and smiles.
With virtually no means by which to communicate, other than hand signs and writing on each other's hands, we proceeded to spend the next 2 hrs. walking around the lake; laughing about not understanding each other.
At times, we would stop at dark sections of the lake and I would pet her heavily--for which I feel a bit guilty now because when money was offered, she refused it--what the heck? This 23-old student let an old man grope, grap, and kiss her for 2 hrs. and wanted no money?
I'll be back (Dec).
Bert 2002
PS: Sorry, just realized that the pm system is a pay feature. I'm active on the USA site. Ping me there. Let's have drinks when I'm back at the end of the year.
Busy Monkey
10-01-07, 13:12
i have traveled extensively through asia, know the deal with pussy for sale in tokyo, beijing, thailand, singapore, bali, cambodia, sri lanka- you get the picture, i’ve traveled and sampled the local stuff all over asia.
out of respect to the local expats and maybe sexpats, its possible that i just haven't scratched the surface yet. if i am inaccurate or need correcting, i welcome it.
as a first-timer in vietnam visiting hanoi, i can clearly state- hanoi sucks. if you are looking for any type of poon-tang do not waste your time coming here. there are very limited venues that are overpriced, it is definitely a sellers marked. if you happen to be in hanoi and just want to find some tail, ok, if you think of coming to hanoi for a piece of ass, virtually any other place in asia is better than here. what can i say from being here one week.
fortuna hotel/boss nightclub- this board suggests it’s the best place, so i went. small, dark, dimly lit, nice couches, seating, live band that alternates with a dj, dance floor but no one dances, if you did you’d look like an ass cuz its not that kind of place. lots of karaoke rooms off to the side with the asian businessmen doing their thing.
pretty swanky for a pussy parlor. girls are dressed superbly, i mean really elegantly, silk, perfect dresses or ao dam. some are actually gorgeous. nothing looking sleazy or tattoos and piercings, this is high end pussy.
drinks- way overpriced. service very poor. takes a long time to get drinks. at the end of the night the barman made me wait literally 15 minutes to get my change. i presume he was thinking i might just walk out. after all the change was les than us$5, but on principle i wasn’t gonna let it slide.
mama-san is busy and not always easy to get, actually difficult to get, which is a problem since the girls don’t negotiate themselves. every time i was there mama-san wanted me to simply take the girl standing closest, didn’t really give me a chance to choose from the whole lot. i notice that when the japanese, korean, chinese middle-aged guys (i’m a white guy in my 30’s) come in, they sit on a couch and mama-san summons about 20 girls for them to choose from. maybe i don’t look like a big spender. tip for mama-san or the house is us$25. 2 nights ago i had mama-san really try to squeeze me for an extra $20. for nothing, she just said, “tip for mama-san, us$25 go to house”. after politely saying “no chance” 5 times in a row, she left because she had other business. the price for the girl was $100. didn’t give me any chance to negotiate, only let me choose from 3 or 4 girls.
the first night i was there, mama-san told me to pay us$25 just to sit with a girl. its us$25 to take a ***** out of there, so no way was i gonna spring us$25 just to sit. i’d bought them drinks but mama-san shooed them away immediately when i wouldn’t pay to sit with them.
the club closes at midnight but currently has a policy that girls cannot leave the premesis before midnight. that means if you want to bang before midnight you have to blow another us$125 or whatever to get a room there. it’s a total bullshit monopoly. you should know that most hotels in hanoi will not allow you to bring a piece of pussy back to your place, at least not vietnamese. i returned to my hotel alone before the girl got there to ask if it was ok. they said “yes” realizing that i’d been to a legit nightclub initially, they thought i’d picked up a tourist. they asked, “foreigner, not vietnamese”. i said “vietnamese” which elicited a violent head shaking as if the guy just had hot peppers injected into his sinuses. ok, gotta use a mini-hotel or love hotel. review below.
upon leaving, we were separately riding scooters, and this very beautiful, great body but total ***** 22 year old girl tried to start negotiating down the time she’s gonna spend. down from 5 to 3 to 2 hours. at that point i say, no way, the original 5 hours. she gets annoyed and drives past my hotel, which is good because out of principle i don’t want to pay that kind of $ to a *****y asshole, and i don’t want to hang out with a chick who’s not fun.
overall, fortuna is a very expensive, swanky pussy parlor, you have to learn how to navigate in there, but everything is straightforward. plan to drop cash.
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hanoi hotel/hanoi nightclub
more my speed. more friendly, and straightforward. well light. when you walk in, a small bar that is an oval around which about 20 chairs can fit. in the center, bartenders and 2 stripper poles, long, lean, scantily-clab but not naked girls grinding to house music. my style. off in another room is a live band and group of good-looking girls, pretty much same as fortuna hotel. a few karaoke rooms off to the side.
same policy as fortuna, no leaving the premesis before midnight, meaning if you want to bang, gotta get a room at the hanoi hotel. fyi i stayed there first night in hanoi by coincidence- it is a 2 ½ star hotel by way of rating the room. its basically just a bit better than a dormitory room. i’m sure this is what hotels were when the only visitors to hanoi were chinese on business. i digress.
in hanoi nightclub, same deal as fortuna, $25 tip to house, mama-san doesn’t bring more than 4 girls for me to check out. i don’t dig any so i don’t select any, but realizing i’m not doing great at fortuna, i tip mama-san $20 just for taking the 10 minutes to help me out. its good to grease the wheels sometimes.
for attitude, i recommend hanoi hotel/hanoi nightclub over fortuna
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relax café
located close to the old quarter, hoan kiem lake, where most tourists probably stay and where my hotel is. no air-con. at night, it’s a kind of sad sight. a number of guys, almost all by themselves, either surrounded by independent hookers or just staring into their beer. fortuna and hanoi are ok to be in alone because they are kind of elegant. relax is just depressing. you look at a bunch of guys hoping to god that you are not like them- unhappy, not dressed great, not having a good time. shout out to all relax regulars- if this is offensive to you because you happen to be a normal, decent-looking guy, sorry, i missed you on saturday night at closing, i only saw a sad few guys.
the women here are10-20 years older than the girls in fortuna and hanoi, speak english pretty [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor, and are just not great looking. advantage, they are available immediately, willing to bang for just one hour or all night. i’d been in the café in the afternoon and exchanged numbers with a girl who was gonna help me find some weed. later, she came through with the weed and had her “sister” on the back of her scooter. sister looked 30 years old, put together well, not hot but cute. wanted us$35 to bang. i said us$25 and it was on.maybe that’s a low price because we’d already done some business or maybe it was just so late (3 am) that there was no possibility of another customer. had to check into a mini-hotel. review of mini-hotel below.
overall, i would recommend checking out relax just to get an idea what the girls would look like- paying us$35 for a piece of ass vs us$125 to get one out of fortuna is a big difference. also, drinks in fortuna are much pricier. definitely check the place out, whether its to pick up a piece of pussy or just pop your head in the door and say “no way”
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scooter girls
at night, girls on scooters will shout out “hello, hello” they barely speak english, and look ok at best, very beat-up and high-mileage at worst. next to hoan kiem i was riding my scooter and stopped for one. i actually wanted some weed, and tried to speak my pathetic 10 words in vietnamese to her and use gestures. she indicated that she had some. i told her i want 100,000 viet dong worth, which is us$3. she agrees. we pull into an alley and i presume there’s a dealer there or she has it. she then gestures for me to pull down my pants and is getting at my belt. i stop here and she puts her finger in her mouth and is sucking like she’s giving a blow job. she then pulls out a 100,000 bill and makes me realize that she wants to give me a bj for us$3. if she wasn’t so high-mileage or if i were hornier or into bjs, i might have done it just to have a record cheap bj. us$3 ha ha ha. i wonder if that would have included swallowing :p
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mini-hotels
you can’t bring girls to most hotels, unless it’s the hotel they’re working in like fortuna or hanoi hotel. even then, unless you were slick enough to register as 2 guests, they will make you pay for a 2nd room just for the girl. so you can’t go back to your hotel, don’t want to pay us$125 for a room just to bang, so you go to a mini-hotel. this is basically a hot-sheet hotel, but nothing clean or decent like a tokyo love hotel. this is a dark, beat place that is questionably clean. i shit you not when i say i feared lice or scabies just from the sheets or towels. i seriously think it would be possible to get an std even without touching the girl, just from the linens. good think, the price was only 200,000 or us$12. that was the price the viet girl got, i presume you should have the girl get the room and tell her ahead of time you’re expecting it to be that price.
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small karaoke club-warning
i was almost robbed in a karoake club that i went to after hours. after fortuna closed at midnight, i ask a taxi to take me to a karaoke club, or ask it one is open. he says yes and takes me to a desolate spot with 2 guys sitting in front of a building. up goes the metal shutter door and i’m taken inside. i hear music so presume the place still has customers. not. i go up 3 floors to a room and the only guy who speaks english says us$50 for the room including drinks for 2 hours with a girl. i say no way, since a piece of high end pussy cost us$25 for the house at fortuna, i wasn’t gonna double that. especially since i’d seen 2 of the girls, and they were just ok, nothing i would be interested in. i get to my taxi and the guy stops me, tells me ok the manager agrees to us$25 discount just for me. ok, i’m inside and they bring beer, fruit, and 3 girls, none of which i want. i ask for more girls, but they have all gone home. if i want to see 3 more girls, i have to pay us$5 more for their taxi. ok. they arrive and i pick one, speaks no english. we hang for a while but the no english thing just isn’t working.
i want to leave and a guy i’ve never seen yet tells me i owe 300,000 (us$18). i ask for what and he says “service” i refuse and say i’m leaving, he stands in front of the door and puts his hand on my shoulder. i don’t know if you’re familiar with asia, but people will hoot, holler, scream, etc, but do not violate personal space by touching. this makes me nervous because that’s very ballsy. the guy is a shrimp, probably 5-6 140 pounds, i could probably literally kill him using no weapons pretty easily as i can handle myself. i am struck by the idea- i am locked in here (the metal shutter door closed after i went in) no one knows i’m here, and this guy is getting pissed off. i realize that confrontation won’t work or might get me stabbed cuz there are at least 4 other guys there, so i sit down and start to drink the many bottles of beer on the table. i even offer him one and he is annoyed. after 20 minute of a mexican standoff, he threatens that “boss get holi gun, holi gun”. i’m a second-amendment gun-toter myself back in the us, so when someone says “gun” i take it seriously. after another minute, i realize he is saying “hooligan” the boss is gonna get some thugs to come get the cash from me. i sit down, keep drinking beer and finally some guys come in to clean the room and they kick me out.
word to the wise- do not enter an empty or after-hours karaoke unless you have your trusted faithful taxi driver outside or better yet a viet inside with you.
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massage parlors.
never have i had a bang, bj, or even been inside a massage parlor, but at this point i’m ready to try one.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Silly Puppy
10-03-07, 01:27
A few points:
1) You should have read the forum before going to a strange KTV all by yourself. Street-smart sense is neccessary.
2) You should have read the forum before going to Fortuna as everyone here says it sucks!
3) Hanoi is much cheaper than Saigon when it comes to sex. However, the Hanoi people are not very friendly to help out a foreigner. They are afraid you are going to tear their women apart :D .
4) Average fuck in Hanoi costs ~ 200K to 300K. A 400K ($25) girl is ~ a 7 to 8.
5) You must know someone local to get decent girls. Some very beautiful girls, model quality, cost between 1mil dong to $100.
6) Barbershop (Hot toc Nam) is where you can get bj for 150K.
7) Massage parlor: There are many but all in Vietnamese so you must ask a taxi or motocycle driver. Here are some of them:
Hoàng Long at the end of Lò Đúc street: 1 ticket ~60K, tip 100 to 150K for hj
Massage Bạch Mai: Ticket ~ 70K, Tip 150K bj, 200K fs
Sakura Cầu Trục Cát Linh : Ticket 150K, 100K to 150K tip for hj
Good Report Busy Monkey!!
A friend and I will be leaving for Hanoi next week. Does anyone know if Apocolypse Now in Hanoi is still closed? Any other discos in Hanoi or Danang with available ladies?
If anyone wants to join us for a drink, please PM me. We plan to visit Hanoi, Sapa, Halong Bay, Hue and Danang.
Busy Monkey
a) USD25 is for club, not Mummy.
USD60 for ST, USD80-100 for overnight.
Henry
a) Apocolyse is closed
Silly Puppy
a) Bach Mai is a long street. What number? 373 Bach Mai? Interesting that massage palours offer fs at 200k.
New World and Apocolypse Now are closed, from what I read on this forum. Are there any other discos in Hanoi with "action"?
[QUOTE=Silly Puppy]A few points:
5) You must know someone local to get decent girls. Some very beautiful girls, model quality, cost between 1mil dong to $100.
Silly Puppy - Regarding your point number 5 Above. I have no local contacts there. How do we go about getting local contacts in north and central Vietnam to show us where the good action is? You can PM me if you want. Thanks.
Saint Jack
10-08-07, 17:27
I was told by a friend that there is similar setup in Bao Son Hotel - a supposedly 4 stars hotel with nightclub downstair of the hotel, just like the Boss Club in Fortuna Hotel.
But the venue is more catering to locals thus price is a level lower than those at Fortuna.
Has anyone tried this place?
Will appreciate sharing any experience here...
SJ
A taxi driver said Apocalypse Now in Hanoi reopened yesterday October 8. Can anyone confirm if this is true?
Didn't have time to check it out when I was there. Understand from my local client that you can pick up undergrads earning sidelines on the main street leading to the students village. Have anyone tried?
Massage Parlors.
Never have I had a bang, bj, or even been inside a massage parlor, but at this point I’m ready to try one.
BM - excellent report on all that does not happen in Hanoi. After all of that do you really think a massage parlour is going to offer real service?
Put simply - there is a lot of private pussy in Hanoi but not much commercial.
Come visit us in Saigon for some action - still not unrestricted.
Busy Monkey-
Just ended my trip. You are correct. Hanoi sucks. And Da Nang is just as bad. Most of Vietnam has almost no monger action, and the little it has is too expensive. Also, the beaches in Vietnam are not nearly as beautiful as advertised - most I have seen are mediocre.
First off, thanks to all the guys providing good information on this site. I've been a long time reader and now I am in the position to post some information.
I arrived in Hanoi around mid-September and there are MPs in the Old Quarter. Some you have to look for, but they are there if you're keeping your eyes open, which is tough when you see all the cuties on the motobikes. There's a big MP just north of the lake in the same building as the Highlands Coffee. I did not go there because when I went to grab a late lunch at 69 Bar/Restaurant (recommended by me and LP) and there was a girl at the bar. She looked Japanese, but was Vietnamese. We started chatting and she gave me the schpiel about 'not having a place to stay. ' So, I knew the game was on. Took her back to my place and had great evening. She wanted 500k dong, but I bargained her down to 250k dong for the night. No Yum-Yum and I didn't ask for back door, but she was very willing and 'flexible' for everything else.
Happy and Safe Hunting.
A couple months ago I went to Hanoi, where I stayed in the Melia. This is not a good place for mongering. They have signs strictly forbidding guests to take people to their rooms. The best you could hope for is to take a girl to the club, and from there, sneak her to your room. I checked out the club, and it was totally lame. The hotel keeps local talent out.
I also checked out the massage. They have a very good massage place, but the girl refused to give me a special massage. I then learned that for a higher price (US$35) you can have a massage in your room. I hoped that the lack of privacy in their massage parlour was the reason for the refusal. Alas, no. Although I turned on all my charm, offered vast amounts of cash, and eventually begged, she sweetly and gently refused.
So on my last night, I set off determined to find something. On every corner, young men on motorbikes offered to take me to bars, girls, but I was not comfortable with that. Then two girls pulled up near the hotel on a motorbike. They said they had a hotel close by, and the price was $35, including the room. I said no at first. But then I decided to take the risk. Luckily I gave the matter some thought. I left all my valuables in the hotel, bringing only enough cash for the deal, with 100,000 Vietnamese Dong (US$6) spare in my back pocket for an emergency taxi.
I went out and within 5 minutes they found me again. I squeezed in between them. It was great fun riding through seedy parts of town on a motorbike squeezed in between two working girls. But I realized how totally vulnerable I was, and realized this was probably not a good idea.
We went to a hotel and I paid 100,000 Dong for the room. I had the honour being her first customer of the night. The girl was slender, but in better light did not look great. She had strange patches on her arm and thigh, making me wonder if she were a drug addict hiding needle marks. The deed was over quickly. Then she wanted to give me a massage, but I felt ill at ease with this girl in a seedy hotel far from my own. So I asked to be taken back and promised to come back the next day for a longer session.
We went back. On the way, she fooled around, grabbing my crotch and playing with my ass. What she was really doing was checking my pockets. When we arrived, she asked me to pay the girl who rode the bike. I noticed my emergency cash was missing. I told her I was broke. She checked every pocket and had to let it go. I did not make an issue about the missing money, being only $6.
In short: interesting experience but I do NOT recommend it. Avoid the biker chicks. With more time and some research in the forum, you should be able to come up with a better approach.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
First off, thanks to all the guys providing good information on this site. I've been a long time reader and now I am in the position to post some information.
I arrived in Hanoi around mid-September and there are MPs in the Old Quarter. Some you have to look for, but they are there if you're keeping your eyes open, which is tough when you see all the cuties on the motobikes. There's a big MP just north of the lake in the same building as the Highlands Coffee. I did not go there because when I went to grab a late lunch at 69 Bar/Restaurant (recommended by me and LP) and there was a girl at the bar. She looked Japanese, but was Vietnamese. We started chatting and she gave me the schpiel about 'not having a place to stay. ' So, I knew the game was on. Took her back to my place and had great evening. She wanted 500k dong, but I bargained her down to 250k dong for the night. No Yum-Yum and I didn't ask for back door, but she was very willing and 'flexible' for everything else.
Happy and Safe Hunting.
You had her all nite long for only 250K dong? That's only about $15 US. If true, you were very lucky! Especially in Hanoi!
European Samurai
11-15-07, 14:22
Some weeks ago i had a session with a biker girl. Meanwhile she gave me a bbbj in the shower (she tried to make high noices to not let me hear what was really going on) - her friend sneaked in and stole my money. Though, she left the credit cards and the mobile phone which i am glad for.
Lesson: never go with more money then you decided to spend before your cock-brain took over the thinking.
WorldBanger
11-22-07, 16:21
Hi,
I am in Hanoi through Nov 26. It is my first time in Hanoi. Read all the reports. Thank you to all the posters. It's been very helpful. Would love to hook up with anyone for beers. Any takers?
Thanks!
I had taken a gf to Hanoi for a wek or so of relaxation, fucking, tourism, eatng and sleeping. But she took a bunk on day 3, so it was up to me to find some fun. I had made a fairly thorough search of the RTFF, so I had a list of points to look for. I decided to split my time into 2 parts. Daytime for bbj at hot tocs, and evenings to check the bars if there was any juice left in the tank.
I started with my list of hot tocs around the middle of the city. I walked most of the streets, without finding what I was looking for, except that I did not know what to look for. I guess once I found one, I would be OK. I did find the Emperor, at 154 Trieu Viet Vuong st. There is a prominent sign at eye level. The dood is closed, but as your hand hits the door knob, someone inside opens the door. I had expected to pay 100,000 door price, plus 100,000 to the girl. The mama inside the door said that it was $10 to the house, $10 to the girl. That was OK by me. I showed that I only wanted bbbj, that was OK with her. But there were only 2 girls. The one in front was really scrawny, bad teeth etc, but the girl hiding behind her was pretty, so I chose her. Name was miss C. There is a narrow, steep flight of stairs to a mezzanine floor above, with 5 narrow beds, pretty scruffy. Go to with miss C, rubbing, squeezing, she loosened her bra and pulled her top and bra up to reveal a pair of nice bumpers.
She hauled my clothes off, laid me back and got to work. I reached round, undid her pants, and hauled them down past her arse. Nice cheecks, tickled her off while she sucked away. She got very wet very quickly, so I slipped in a finger and gave her a bit of a work out. She was squirming and wriggling, and I blew off into her mouth. Nice bit of action. She cleaned up, then rolled me over and proceeded to give me a basic massage. Not good, not bad, but part of the deal. All in all, I was pretty happy, paid her, paid the door, and left, planning to come back next day for a repeat.
Next day, I returned, mid afternoon. Miss C eyes lit up when I asked for her in a loud voice, and she hussled me off upstairs. We started rubbing up again, and this time I pulled up her top, undid her jeans, and pulled them down to her ankles. I started basically tickling and rubbing across her belly, down her crutch, and eventually into her magic zone. She was awash with juice already, so I started to give her a slow steady finger fucking. Not long later she was buckling, just collapsing and convulsing, until she could not take it any more, and I stopped. Apparently the rule is that she can pull her clothes up and down, but cannot actually take anything off. So in her state, she got to work on me, and was more than accommodating. It was a great blow job, filled her mouth, dribbling down outside. I was spent. She pulled up her pants, rolled me over and proceeded with her massage, as before. I gave her a tip of 100,000, and she was very happy.
I had a break for a couple of days while I was in Do Son, but on my way back to Hanoi, I stopped in again. As before, her eyes lit up when I entered, and she hustled me off upstairs in a hurry. She could not wait to get her top up, her pants down, and my clothes off. Again, I started to tickle her up, but she was awash with juice already. So I laid her on her back, and started to stroke her clit. She was coming in no time, I guess she was excited in anticipation. While she was heaving on her back, I slipped my dick into her mouth from the side, and started to face fuck her. She grabbed two fingers, and stuck them in her ****, pushing me in and out. I got it going, and she was off with the birds, heaving up and down while sucking on my prick while I face fucked her. Finally she could not take any more, got up, rolled me onto the bed on my back, and got on to finish the bbj. Sucked so hard I was stunned, and filled her face with juice. She just stayed there for a short while after I came, slowly sucking up and down till there was nothing more for me to give.
Then she got up with a huge grin on her face, grabbed a towel, cleaned us both off, and we both got dressed. Another 100,000 VND ($6) tip, and I staggered out of the place with my knees trembling, could hardly walk. What a woman.
It makes me miserable to leave the place.
Took the effort to check out the Boss lounge at the Fortuna hotel, on Lang Ha Street. There would be a decided advantage in having a room at the hotel, costing about USD 80 per night. The place is in the basement, large, very comfortably laid out, well decorated, with concentric circles of lounges generally facing the stage. I was there on Tuesday night, arrived about 10 to 10.30. Very few customers.
I was stunned by the number and quality of the girls on hand. There would not have been one less than an 8, most were 9’s, and a couple were outstanding. All slim, most with good sets of tits, generally on display. All were immaculately dressed, most in traditional Au Dai.
I fronted the bar for a beer, sat on a stool, to take a look and get my bearings. The barman presented a menu of drink options, with prices. Beers were USD4, cocktails higher. Within a minute or so, a gorgeous woman was standing along side, striking up a conversation. I offered a drink, which she ordered. Once we had got going, she told me that it would cost USD30 for me to talk with her. Given the hour and my mongering frame of mind, I said that this would not be a good deal for me, so she drifted away. The bar closes at 12 that night.
Had a chat with a couple of guys, and asked a couple of girls about prices. A short time is USD80, and only in a room at the hotel. If you do not have a room, it will cost another USD80 to register. I could not get a clear statement of how long one gets for the fee, I suspect that once you have blown off the dirty water, she will leave and get back to the bar.
Every now and then, a group of girls would appear from a side door and drift across the bar area. It seemed to me that this was an organised activity to show as many girls as possible to the few customers present.
At about 11, a band came on stage and put on a great performance, it was a pity there were so few paying customers.
As time went by, closer to closing time, and there were very few customers, more girls approached me to take them for a ST, and pay. I gracelessly declined, having the clear image in my mind of a good massage and blow job for less than $20. It seemed that $160 for a fuck was a bit steep, albeit the girls were stunning and I could take my pick from 30 or more.
The most beautiful of them struck up a conversation about 11.30, and kept coming back to keep it rolling. Eventually I gave her my number and said I would see her next night. She called the next night from the club, just to check that I would be there. Must heve been short of customers again.
Stopped over to check out the Relax bar. It was about half half expat and Viet customers. As we sat at a small table, two gorgeous young waitresses/hostesses came over and struck up conversation. We chatted for a while. Once the better looking of the pair had established that I was a transient and my mate was permanent, I was no longer of interest. There were about 8 waitresses, all very pretty, slim, well spoken. Ours said they are students, working in the bar to pay the bills. Could be real. Neither indicated that they were available for take out, and I didn’t see any customer take out any of the staff. There was one woman there who could have been a fl, or she may have been with the party of guys she was with. So not a red hot pace for action.
As we left, we were accosted outside by a number of street fl, but by that time we were not interested, since miss C had drained my bodily fluids not long before.
This is a fun venue, not brightly signed outside. It’s a big bar, with a band behind the bar. Bargirls are pretty good looking, very fuckable. The crowd was mostly young Vietnamese, with a few expats. I could not spot any obvious wg or fl. I just had a couple of beers and watched the passing parade of good looking young girls. There were no obvious working girls that I could see that evening, so I did not push my luck. A great place to come for a few beers, a bit of a laugh, and to ogle the damsels, if you do not have one already.
Just to share my experience on my trip to Hanoi. I was on a business trip and stayed at Hilton Hanoi Opera and went on a hunt in a club called Apocalypse Now. Good music (of all varieties) and the music would pick-up later on into some dance music. The club was filled with people (rather young crowd).
Picked this girl up called Nguyen (I think half of the Vietnamese population has this name) after exchanging loads of smiles. Quote USD150 for a pop but negotiated for USD100 for 3 hours = 2 pops! She didn't even want the donk equivalent to USD100 (about 1.3 to 1.5million I think). A straight NO from her. NO USD NO SEX!! Gosh!
She has an OK face with a slim body (I didn't see any fat vietnamese girls in Hanoi, are there any? Must be their beef noodles diet). She is just an avarage Vietnamese girl that makes fake noises while shagging.
My question is that do they use Dong for a bonk?
European Samurai
12-05-07, 14:58
Just came back from a fantastic bbbj in a hot toc. She had very nice attitude, was very sweet and with amazing D-tits. Promised me bum bum next time. I will ask her if I can take pictures then.
Went with my motorbike and looked for a hot toc with dark or frosted windows. I found one with frosted windows and a girl on the inside that searched for eye contact.
Parked my motorbike at a guarded parking nearby and went to check it out. Imagine this – you go in to a hair cutter and the first thing they ask is…what? A hair cut?…no no no. Massaaa’? I said yes of course and pointed at the big breasted cashier next to the mamasan. Mamasan wanted 100 000 dong for the bed. I said ok.
Besides mamasan and the cashier girl, there was one another girl to choose of, but I had already spotted the cashiers cleavage and i had already decided to go with her.
Walked up on a stair just above the haircutting area. No walls, just curtains. But since there were no other customers, I saw no problem with that. Her english was very limited, so I confiremd my wishes with body language. Yes, no problem. Negotiated the price to 10 dollar which she confirmed with a smile.
She started to clean me off with a wet towel. I grabbed her tits and she took out them for display. Amazing!! Beautiful was my first words. She laughed. In front of my eyes I saw two pair of natural wonders, D-size. Since most of the Vietnamese girls have just B-size and I’m a breast man, I was very lucky. I couldn’t belive it. Here in Vietnam, you don’t find natural D-cups on thin girls very easily.
Before I went in I was going to ask for a cim, but with these tits in front of me, I was satisfied with a bbbj.
I was not going to ask her any special things, this, the first time. Just wanted to show her respect and treat her nice and do her job. Though, I wasn’t dissatisfied, she did her job very good, I soon came, though not in her mouth, just on her chin and face. She cleaned off with a towel.
She cleaned me up with another towel. I paid her 260 000 dong, which was 100 000 tip, she was very happy. When I walked out from the door she shouted cheerfully bye bye!
I will give you the address when I have done her enough of times.
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Had a chat with a couple of guys, and asked a couple of girls about prices. A short time is USD80, and only in a room at the hotel. If you do not have a room, it will cost another USD80 to register. I could not get a clear statement of how long one gets for the fee, I suspect that once you have blown off the dirty water, she will leave and get back to the bar.
Hello Gangles.
I was there at the end of November and ST was $60. One or 2 girls tried to make me believe it was $80, but they were just trying their luck. I can't believe they've jacked the price up by 33% in the space of only a week.
If you are still in Hanoi, see my report on Boss club here for more hints:
http://www.hookerlooker.biz/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1281
By the way, that price of $80 for a room doesn't sound right. Before my trip I hunted high & low for rooms at the Fortuna on many different sites and the cheapest I could get was $120, before taxes etc. ($138 after taxes). The second time I went I got the room for a bit less $115, by reserving directing with the hotel. Gripes aside (in my report), it's a superb hotel, boss club or no boss club. The breakfast bar was something I used to look fwd to everyday!
I could not get a clear statement of how long one gets for the fee, I suspect that once you have blown off the dirty water, she will leave and get back to the bar.Correct! Their primary objective is maximize their revenue. The minute you've cum, they'll make a beeline for the shower, change and then [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off back down to the club (once one of these girls told me she's going home, but I spotted her again later that night in the club and even exchanged greetings). Warning: Take your time cumming. As far as she's concerned, the session ends when you cum, whether that's 5 mins or 2 hours. Don't yield to their pressure to "hurry up".
My question is that do they use Dong for a bonk?Depends where you are. In the main centres, it's USD; everywhere else it's dong. Basically, if it's higher than 6 figures in dong, they switch to USD.
Smokygrass
12-10-07, 07:49
Depends where you are. In the main centres, it's USD; everywhere else it's dong. Basically, if it's higher than 6 figures in dong, they switch to USD.I do agree with J Lover. Anything lower than 100,000 should be in Dong. But most will except dong if you insists. They would rather the money than no money.
I was in the Boss lounge 2 weeks ago with friends. After sitting down, the mamasan brought a row of ladies to us, many were great looking and given me the sign to take them. Looked like they were desperate for business. I took one and during the conversation, she told me she was from Ho Chi Minh and came here to work for only 5 months (which I doubted). She asked me how long I would stay in Hanoi and I answered for few days (in fact the next day I have to fly off). I know if I told her the truth, I would not get a better service from her later, this is a common sense as WL will think it's only one time biz, why should they give good service. She said she could go up to the hotel room. For sort time is USD60 and overnight is USD100. We sat there until the bar closed at 12am, the girl also told me that all bars in hanoi close at 12am nowadays as local authorities set new rules, before that clubs close at 2am.
We settled for a one night and she asked me to go up and she would go there herself. I thought the hotel does not allow girls to stay in the room without registration and pay for the extra bed (if for one night) but it seemed that rules are rules, human would not want to follow. :)
After 15 mins, she came in and told me she only can do short time only. WTF ! My mood was going low, was thinking to ask her go back straight away. Never mind, lastly I decided only for the last time I will took her (by the way, her number is 316). She was giving excuses like she came to work late and not able to park her motorcycle in the hotel and she needed to collect the motorcycle from outside...bla bla bla...and she never agreed to have one night with me when we talked in the bar !
Don't care anymore, just wanted to fuck. After undressed, she got a flappy boobs, she started from top to bottom and I daty her (quite good, no smell), less than 10 mins and capped me. Started with cow girl and ended with missionary. Total time taken less than 20 mins. After finished, she took shower on her own, leaving me behind. I said fxxx again ! Do all ladies here provide same service ? I mean after work we have to clean ourselves ? Before leaving, she promised me tomorrow she will spend a night with me and asked me to look for her again. What do you think gal ? She asked me to tip her USD10, I rejected saying I will give to her tomorrow and wanted to take a photo of her, she rejected.
So, I believe it is a tactic for some of the ladies in Vietnam to give excuse to leave after a short time work. Any members can give more information on this ?
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The Sweede
12-15-07, 17:32
I tried a couple of places mentioned here.
At the Emperor, at 154 Trieu Viet Vuong I got a good BBBJ/cim. The massage itself was just a formality. I paid 10$ to the house and gave the girl 20$.
To day a tried Bach Mai (around 375 there is a closed hotel next door.) There is a sign saying "Thai massage". I only had dollars with me and they definitely expected vnd.
The young guy at the front door didn’t speak any English, and seemed a bit shady. Anyway the girl was very cute and gave an ok thai massage. She took of her cloth at the end, and was kissing and codling. At this point I expected that she would make an offer for some extra service but she didn’t and put her cloth on. I then showed her 40$, and she said ok (she didn’t spoak any English either). Her name was Ngân. The service was ok an BBBJ and of course the rest was protected. She really was cute – kissing and giving good eye contact.
Leaving the place the guy at the entrance again just showed a bit of attitude arguing about the conversion of dollars to vnd.
I must admit that I am not a big fan of the attitude young Vietnamese have and the way they drive in this scooter infested place. I have seen 2 people getting killed over the last week.
From today they have to wear helmets – and they actually did do this on the first day. Properly because they are afraid of the fine they can get. The helmets they are selling everywhere is of course crap like most of the other stuff you can bye in Hanoi.
This little experience happened all but 10 minutes ago.
Having enjoyed a good meal and a couple of drinks I sat on the step of my hotel to smoke my last cigar. Within 5 minutes a bike with three girls pulls up, two jump off and engage in conversation. I had no intention whatsoever of going off with them but it's always entertaining to talk to them, or so I thought.
The usual conversation follows, "Where you from?" "How long you in Hanoi?" etc. etc.
One girl starts the "You want massage" and starts stroking my legs. The other keeps talking inane bullshit.
Now one thing I have got is shit hot hearing and I heard the slight sound of paper rustling. I looked down at massage girl to see her trying to palm the dollars she'd just taking from my cargo pants side pocket, that was it, didn't feel a thing. I took the cash from her hand and gave some friendly advice in English then exit stage left.
This little experience just about sums up Hanoi, if you're a westerner you're ripe for picking. Everywhere people try to rip you off, even in so called respectable premises. Visit Hanoi for the sights but keep your wits about you and above all NEVER, EVER consider going with a biker girl!
This little experience just about sums up Hanoi, if you're a westerner you're ripe for picking. Everywhere people try to rip you off, even in so called respectable premises. Visit Hanoi for the sights but keep your wits about you and above all NEVER, EVER consider going with a biker girl!I fully empathize with you, but I reckon they're not all bad. I did very nice, honest biker when I was there last month and no problems at all. Got her number and everything. BUT, a few minutes earlier I also had a very similar experience to yours. When dealing (or rather, when chatting) with these biker gals, the golden rule I've learned is this: DO NOT allow them to touch you. As soon as anyone starts stroking you, you know your valuables are about to be attacked!
See my report below, in the hookerlooker.biz link, for a very similar story to yours.
So, I believe it is a tactic for some of the ladies in Vietnam to give excuse to leave after a short time work. Any members can give more information on this ?The oldest trick in the book. They wanna get out of there ASAP, so they can get back down to the market. The usual reason given is some shit along the lines "oh, I have to see my sick mother/father/..." etc.
For this reason, I never bother with LT. I reckon ST is better for both girl and punter alike. Better for girl, because she can move onto another paying customer. Better for punter, because if you're still hungry, you can go back to downstairs to the meat market and choose another choice cut. Also, if you have business meetings (or even tours) the next day, you might suffer sleep deprivation if you've done LT.
Thanks for sharing those info, since I may go Hanoi again, I will definately take the members advise here. BTW, do you mind to pass the contact to me for the nice girl that you have? How much she charges? Does she speak English? Probably I will be staying in Fortuna hotel again.
Thanks
I fully empathize with you, but I reckon they're not all bad. I did very nice, honest biker when I was there last month and no problems at all. Got her number and everything. BUT, a few minutes earlier I also had a very similar experience to yours. When dealing (or rather, when chatting) with these biker gals, the golden rule I've learned is this: DO NOT allow them to touch you. As soon as anyone starts stroking you, you know your valuables are about to be attacked!
See my report below, in the hookerlooker.biz link, for a very similar story to yours.
Dars Veider
12-24-07, 17:30
The last couple of days I stayed in Hanoi. And on one afternoon I was approached by a tout offering my girls for "bum-bum" (many young girls: the staring rate was 1. 000. 000 VND but we agreed on 500. 000 VND) in a place at West Lake. Since it was still afternoon and I was still not finished with my sightseeing, I told him to meet me at 8 pm.
So at 8 pm we met and we took a motorbike taxi to that place (20. 000 VND one way from the old quarter – 10 to 15 minutes).
After we arrived, the manager of that place called the girls out of their rooms and they lined up for me on the second floor and I could choose. My first choice was a cute little one and we went into the room. Still with the tout who was waiting for the money. Since the girl seemed a little bit young I asked him how old she is (the girls speak hardly any English! ) and he asked her and finally he proudly told me that she is 16 and a half years old! Shit, that was much too young and I refused her which the tout couldn’t understand ("very young, good bum-bum") and I chose another one. Again I asked for the age. And this time after some discussions in Vietnamese he came up and said she is 18 years old. Well, I could believe that or not. And since I wanted to have some action I agreed.
After I gave him the money he left (he was asking for extra money for him and I told him afterwards I would give him some).
The sex was ok: BBBJ, DATY, some positions and she allowed me to take photos of her. But without face. But I was feeling not so comfortable and I finished fast and left. Total damage: 500. 000 VND for the manager, 100. 000 VND tip for the girl, 40. 000 VND for the motorbike taxi.
Since I knew the directions now I went there a couple of days later again and found out that there are actually about 6-8 houses like this in that same street within 100 meters. Since I was this time without a tout I could get the girl for 400. 000 VND (maybe still too much. But ok).
Again: BBBJ, DATY, some positions and she allowed me to take photos. This time I was feeling more relaxed and could enjoy it more.
These places seem ok, but of course since prostitution in Vietnam is illegal this is kind of dangerous! So take care guys!
Directions for this place:
Go to West lake, pass by the Sofitel and the Sheraton; as soon as you have passed by the Sheraton, turn left and pass by Sheraton’s second entry. Go on and take the third street to the left (after the Golden resort). Proceed in this street for 300 m, and then the street name changes to:
Ngo 52 Duong To Ngoc Van.
Then you have arrived and will see some men sitting on the street in front of houses (former small hotels? ) and waving you in. And then you just mention bum-bum and settle for the price and choose your girl.
Prices: as I said: it should be around 300. 000 – 400. 000 VND for short time!
Happy mongering!
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European Samurai
01-08-08, 13:48
Even if with raincoat, I had a nice session at a hot toc not long time ago. It was at a place in bui thi xuan street, side street to ba trieu. Don't remember the number, but start searching from hanoi towers towards hoan kiem, on the right side of the street. Damage 100. 000 to mamasan and 160. 000 to the girl. Very nice and happy girl.
I have seen cat toc’s and massage places in the street addresses below. I haven’t tried any of them yet, but am soon going to. Til then, you are more than welcome to give a report about them. I can not answer for if all of them give extra service. Here they are:
47, 79, 119, 181, 151, 139 Doi Can
7 Tran Nguyen Han and one more on the same street.
96, 68 Nguyen Phong Sac, Cat toc’s with more than just massage, for sure.
157 Xuan Thuy
193 Khuat Duy Thine
116 Nguyen Tuan
17, 39, 168, 144, Nguyen Huy Tuon
221 b, 120, 79, 290, 16, Quan Nhan
3 Lang Ha,Cat toc nam
170 Nguyen Thai hoc
139 Nguyen Khuyen
216 Hang Bong, Cat toc nam
118k Giang Vo, Foot massage, a lot of young girls
39 Pho Vu Thanh, Sakura Club, massage, nice place
54, 56 Ngoc Ha
269, 297b, 381 Kim Ma, massage
437/1 Kim Ma, Cat toc nam
105/c5 Giang Vo, Cat toc nam - for sure hj or bj
119/c8 Giang Vo, Cat toc nam w massage, for sure hj or bj
108/c8, Giang Vo (nui truc), Cat toc nam, for sure hj or bj
96 Tran Duat, Cat toc nam
28 Ngoc Khan, massage
2:84 Ngoc Khan, massage
92, Ngoc Khan, Cat toc nam
146 Giang Vo, Sauna massage
European Samurai
01-09-08, 13:28
45 Hang Chuoi, Hot toc nam
28 Hang Chuoi - Service health care, massage - a lot of girls
9 Hang Chuoi, Karaoke, saw beutiful looking girls go in there.
Haven't tried any of them myself yet.
Have fun!
European Samurai
01-18-08, 13:32
Went to a hot toc on Bui Thi Xuan street. The hot toc quite near to Vincom Towers.
Inside perhaps 10 girls between 20 and 35 years old, both for "eating at the table" and for "delivery". I choosed the girl with the biggest tits (hanging a little bit though), Phuong is her name.
Went one stair up to a bed where I dressed off and waited 2 minutes until she came up with the wet towel. She unzipped her bra and let the shirt still be on. The pants she took off everything except for one leg.
Very wet pussy. She asked if I wanted to fuck her but I said no since I hadn't brought any condom. I showed with body language what I wanted.
She started to lick and did good but when she after that started to do HJ instead, I stopped her and pointed my finger at my mouth. She started to blow and it was fantastic. She continued for some minutes before she started to jerk it at the same time as she sucked, then she started to jerk faster but I didn't want to say her to slow it down- it felt to good. I came with a big load (at least it felt like it) in her mouth and she didn't make a sound, she just continued to suck.
After she took some paper, but I don't know if it was to clean her lips or if she actually swallowed.
15 minutes job. 150 to mama and 150 to Phuong.
Everything felt very safe. Nice girl. No fuzzeling with clothes that they try to hang up for you.
Can recommend. 3+ out of 5.
Geneva Guy
01-25-08, 09:47
At the head of the lake in Hanoi is a large, 4 story building with restaurants and shops in it, has the logo "legend beer" about 1/2 way up (can't miss it). There is a body massage place there, very nice, $15 for 90 mins, includes sauna, shower and massage. My young lady, age 23, a knockout, and nice body started teasing me from the beginning of the massage. Uh oh, wife was in the next room, had to be quiet. So, for $20 got a great HJ, got to lick and suck, and finger (pussy slightly hairy as I like them). I suspect the full menu was available, but. With wife next door, yikes. Ended with some big french kisses from this lovely hanoi beauty. I suspect all the girls there are "up" for extras.
Have fun, get lots of smiles on the streets from the young ladies, wondered if any of the girls selling postcards on the street would like to make some $. I'm such a pig, but, with wife here. Got to be careful, hehe.
Have fun, get lots of smiles on the streets from the young ladies, wondered if any of the girls selling postcards on the street would like to make some $. I'm such a pig, but, with wife here. Got to be careful, hehe.
The postcard gals in Saigon come across if you are nice so why not in Hanoi. You just need a place to take them.
Archangel8166
01-27-08, 12:23
I haven’t been in Hanoi for awhile but between 2003 and 2007 was there a lot on business and usually stayed at the Sofitel Metropole, Hilton Opera, or the Hanoi Horison hotels. A massage with HJ in these hotels was always available for USD 20. I could usually get the girl to take off her top and fondle her breasts during the massage, but they wouldn’t go for anything more. There is a massage/sauna place on the same street as the Hilton that offers HJ for 200,000 VND, but only tried it once since the place wasn’t that clean.
One night outside the Metropole, I asked one of the cycle drivers where I could get a massage, and he took me to a place where I got a combo BBBJ/HJ from a real beauty (said she was from Saigon) that cost me USD 20 to the mamasan, and 200,000 VND to the girl. It was some distance from the hotel, and I don’t remember the part of town. Afterwards, I went drinking to one of the local beer halls with the driver and we ended up getting drunk together. He spoke English well and I tipped him USD 10. It turned out to be a good investment since he hooked me up with several young women over the next week for ST sessions, and I always paid USD 20 to the girls. I was staying at the Metropole and always brought them in through the bar, and never had any problem. However, they all insisted on ST and would never spend the night.
Another option is to just hang out in front of the Opera and within minutes a girl on a moto will approach you with an offer. Late afternoon, evening seemed to be the best times. They vary in looks, so it pays to be patient. I took (or they snagged me) several this way, and they always took me to a ST hotel somewhere in town (usually across the bridge) where I ended up paying USD 20 for the room and USD 20 for the girl. I’m sure they also got a cut of the room rate, but the services always included BBBJ/CIM and multiple position sex, so I never had any complaints.
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usually stayed at the Sofitel Metropole, Hilton Opera, or the Hanoi Horison hotels.I think that taking a gal on motor-bike outside those hotels while you were staying there was a big risk. You must have been lucky not to get money lost or something.
You were staying at the best hotels in Hanoi (at that time and even until now) but quite ventured yourself. Please be more cautious!
Dear Dars Vider,
Excellent artical. I will be staying at sofital plaza at the lake. Please let me know how far the place from the Sofital.
Thanks,
Madan
Guys,
Have dutifully RTFF, but found no leads on any outlets close to the Hanoi airport (away from town, so not very promising I guess). I have a 3 hr layover tomorrow, and might as well make some use of it.... Your comments most welcome.
Guys,
Have dutifully RTFF, but found no leads on any outlets close to the Hanoi airport (away from town, so not very promising I guess). I have a 3 hr layover tomorrow, and might as well make some use of it.... Your comments most welcome.
Firstly I doubt if you will get out the airport without a visa. Secondly the airport is about an hour from town.
What you might find is a Hot Toc or Massage place in one of the nearby villages but that is really hit and miss.
Fresh Meat
02-23-08, 17:52
Hi,
I am planning to visit Hanoi and need advice from other fellow mongers on the following :-
1. GF Hotels and their rates and whether they can be book online.
2. Where to get pussy for ST and LT.
3. Is the Ho chi minh city a better place in terms of pussy than hanoi and if yes then how long it takes to travel to ho chi minh and the mode of travel available.
I have gone thru some of the reports but I would like to know the pick up joints and whether free lancers can be picked if so and which place.
Would love to hear on these.
Cheers
Fresh Meat
I read through the postings, as I have not been to Vietnam yet... but cannot quite put together the overall best place to stay. Will be with a business partner, that does not punt, so would like to be in a good location, where I can easily get out for some fun..
Can anyone advise from the following, the best hotel in terms of location to some good bars, massage shops, etc...?
I will be there on business, so will stay at a nice place (being it is difficult to get a girl in your room at any hotel)
Hilton?
Sheraton? (from what I see close to the house brothels?),
Sofitel?
Fortuna?
Again, looking for a good location so I could walk to some action... or would like to know if any of the hotels offer "room service" via their sauna..? Or can you have a girl from the Sheraton KTV meet you upstairs? ... etc
Staying in the Fortuna. Booked the room last minute and there was no availability online so had to call. All they had was a premiere room and it was $195 a night. The room itself is nice. Stylish, big plasma tv, jacuzzi tub. The downstairs Boss club is open at least by 1930 and closes at 0000. Unfortunately they have implemented a $30 minimum bill policy. Once you go inside drinks are pretty pricey. $8 for a long island ice tea. Well whatever, you have to spend at least $30 anyway. I don't particularly care for the layout of the place. A bunch of semi circular couches all in a row and facing the stage. Sit down for a bit and eventually some girls will ask if they can sit with you or mamasan will come over. Mama will explain that it is $30 to have a girl come sit with you. At least you can apply the expense to your $30 minimum. If you agree then she calls over about 12 girls in a line and shines a flashlight in their face so you can get a good look while deciding. Quality was pretty good but I wouldn't say they were models. Looks were consistent across the board, all 7 or 8's. Pick your girl and she'll sit down and wrap herself around you. Some light kissing and petting ensue. Not much conversation, unless you count "how long you stay vietnam, where you from?" Want some nooky? Mamasan told me $70 for 2 hours, one shot or $100 all night. I want like 3 hours and 2 pops. Mama says it's up to the girl, money goes direct to her. Girl not willing to negotiate. I say ok to all night but she won't do that either. I say hey, it's getting close to midnight and then you'll have nothing, take it or leave it. She leaves it. I ask mama to round up another herd of girls, making sure they are willing to do all night first. She whips the flock together in no time and another 12 eager faces are getting the flashlight treatment. I pick a girl, do the petting, we agree to go upstairs all night (which equals until 6am) for $100. I write my room number down for the girl. She goes out the back way, and I pay the tab ($63 for drinks and the girl chat). The $30 fee for Mamasan to have a girl sit with you seems to be a one time expense so you don't have to pay multiple if you don't like the first girl.
Long story short. You pay your tab and go up to your room and a few minutes later the girl knocks on the door. You pay the girl in the room, not at the club.
If you're having trouble getting Mamasan's attention, just grab a girl and ask her to bring Mama over or look for the business dressed middle aged ladies that are carrying clipboards and notebooks. There are several Mamasan's working the club at once.
Also I got one of the Mama's phone numbers in case you are staying at a different hotel and would like something sent over. Will answer PM's from senior members only.
Staying in the Fortuna. Booked the room last minute and there was no availability online so had to call. All they had was a premiere room and it was $195 a night. The room itself is nice. Stylish, big plasma tv, jacuzzi tub. The downstairs Boss club is open at least by 1930 and closes at 0000. Unfortunately they have implemented a $30 minimum bill policy. Once you go inside drinks are pretty pricey. $8 for a long island ice tea. Well whatever, you have to spend at least $30 anyway. I don't particularly care for the layout of the place. A bunch of semi circular couches all in a row and facing the stage. Sit down for a bit and eventually some girls will ask if they can sit with you or mamasan will come over. Mama will explain that it is $30 to have a girl come sit with you. At least you can apply the expense to your $30 minimum. If you agree then she calls over about 12 girls in a line and shines a flashlight in their face so you can get a good look while deciding. Quality was pretty good but I wouldn't say they were models. Looks were consistent across the board, all 7 or 8's. Pick your girl and she'll sit down and wrap herself around you. Some light kissing and petting ensue. Not much conversation, unless you count "how long you stay vietnam, where you from?" Want some nooky? Mamasan told me $70 for 2 hours, one shot or $100 all night. I want like 3 hours and 2 pops. Mama says it's up to the girl, money goes direct to her. Girl not willing to negotiate. I say ok to all night but she won't do that either. I say hey, it's getting close to midnight and then you'll have nothing, take it or leave it. She leaves it. I ask mama to round up another herd of girls, making sure they are willing to do all night first. She whips the flock together in no time and another 12 eager faces are getting the flashlight treatment. I pick a girl, do the petting, we agree to go upstairs all night (which equals until 6am) for $100. I write my room number down for the girl. She goes out the back way, and I pay the tab ($63 for drinks and the girl chat). The $30 fee for Mamasan to have a girl sit with you seems to be a one time expense so you don't have to pay multiple if you don't like the first girl.
Long story short. You pay your tab and go up to your room and a few minutes later the girl knocks on the door. You pay the girl in the room, not at the club.
If you're having trouble getting Mamasan's attention, just grab a girl and ask her to bring Mama over or look for the business dressed middle aged ladies that are carrying clipboards and notebooks. There are several Mamasan's working the club at once.
Also I got one of the Mama's phone numbers in case you are staying at a different hotel and would like something sent over. Will answer PM's from senior members only.
This is a very encouraging report for Hanoi where availability has been limited. Even so $100 for an allnighter is getting expensive. I am gonna try to link this to the R of D.
I slipped up to Hanoi for a few days for business (usually travel to HCMC only). It seemed funny at first as I could not find any action and ended up asking the taxi driver and guess what, he even said that he was not sure where to go!
I ventured down to the Jazz Club in the Old Quarter and had a few drinks and walked out at about 10:30pm and outside the club was a girl and a guy on a moto. The guy said he would hook me up and I thought wow, finally some action. The girl walked over and told him off and said to me that she could provide me with everything I was looking for. She looked very attractive so I said OK. She first took me back to another bar within 5 minutes walking and said she wanted to have a drink with me first and see a couple of friends so we did just that and her friends were also awesome. We got our drinks very cheap and she told me to let her do the talking when we ordered and she would get them very cheap.
Her English was great and then I found out she was a tour guide that picked up the odd guy now and then when business was slow.
She took me back to her friends place and we were there for a few hours. She was fantastic and had a great smile and was very friendly. She then asked for 60 USD and even asked if that was OK with me!
So I had a great night with an awesome girl. She then said next time I am in town drop by the Jazz Club late and see if she is hanging around the front looking for a male tourist.
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Red Claude
04-28-08, 17:19
Hilton?
Sheraton? (from what I see close to the house brothels?)
Sofitel?
Fortuna?
Again, looking for a good location so I could walk to some action... or would like to know if any of the hotels offer "room service" via their sauna..? Or can you have a girl from the Sheraton KTV meet you upstairs? ... etcHi Mark,
Hilton, Sheraton & Sofitel are not GF. However, in the day time it is quite easy to get the girls u to your room provided they are dress well not to attract the security guards attention. During night time you cannot take girls to your room.
Seems that Fortuna is the only place you can pick up WG from the BOSS ktv at the basement. You cannot take back girls from other joints to your room.
Sheraton do not have a ktv but there is a pub with lots of FL.
Hope the infos help.
Cowa Banga
05-01-08, 22:40
Anyone ever hear of a five dollar handshake? As security approach you and your girl, smile and discretely pass the cat the money. Easy as that. A ton of friends of mine have done it in the past.
If she dresses like a *****, you are shit out of luck.
Seems that Fortuna is the only place you can pick up WG from the BOSS ktv at the basement. You cannot take back girls from other joints to your room.
.
I am at the Fortuna now. The Boss Bar is asking for 30 US$ entrance fee...even I stay in the hotel...yesterday told them to fuck off.... today my local agent paid and we went in.
Yes, there are pretty gals but all cold like the iceberg hitting the Titanic in a cold winternight. They are world champions in hustling for yor $$$$. Starting fee for foreigner is 100 US$ for a nookie.
I was falling in a trap and agreed on 600.000 for a ST with a smart looking cookie. I left first and she followed me 5 min later by using the staff elevator. Once in the room, cold water was hitting me after she got the money upfront> she kept her panties on...allowed me to suckle her clit but she was just jerking me off. No fuck. For that she was asking for another 600.000...that would be total 75$...for a ST..nada...not worth.
With all that drama and endless negotiation, I just cut the loss short and kicked her out.
In all my years visitng Vietnam, I feel the girls are the hardest negotiators. No feel, no GF style...just do your biz and get off....
I am at the Fortuna now. The Boss Bar is asking for 30 US$ entrance fee...even I stay in the hotel...yesterday told them to fuck off.... today my local agent paid and we went in.
Yes, there are pretty gals but all cold like the iceberg hitting the Titanic in a cold winternight. They are world champions in hustling for yor $$$$. Starting fee for foreigner is 100 US$ for a nookie.
I was falling in a trap and agreed on 600.000 for a ST with a smart looking cookie. I left first and she followed me 5 min later by using the staff elevator. Once in the room, cold water was hitting me after she got the money upfront> she kept her panties on...allowed me to suckle her clit but she was just jerking me off. No fuck. For that she was asking for another 600.000...that would be total 75$...for a ST..nada...not worth.
With all that drama and endless negotiation, I just cut the loss short and kicked her out.
In all my years visitng Vietnam, I feel the girls are the hardest negotiators. No feel, no GF style...just do your biz and get off....
As I have said before here and elsewhere the Vietnam gals in the commercial sex scene are often hard nosed and great hustlers. Especially the ones who make it out of the country. I see it as an inevitable response to the restrictive attitude of the authorities which ensures that supply is limited.
But please do not classify all VN gals that way. They are often very sweet and accommodating. But non WL are very hard to find in Hanoi. A trip to Hai Phong area might be rewarding.
In Saigon non WL are easier to find and new recruits amongst the bar gals can also be found with a less commercial attitude.
I see it as an inevitable response to the restrictive attitude of the authorities which ensures that supply is limited.
But please do not classify all VN gals that way. They are often very sweet and accommodating. But non WL are very hard to find in Hanoi. .
Even at my vists before, I was dating gals from Vietsingles.com...so called good girls. But still...their mindset is cruxed..money minded...focus on financial security. Yes, I had with that "good girls" some reasonable fucks. But none was that good to keep her for the next visit. Not comparable with any chick from Philippines or Indonesia in regards of GF=feeling.
If you in town for one or 2 night, you dun have time to search. I just wanna straight go to a pub or MP and get the deed done. I can fuck Viet girls more easy in the MP's in Malaysia for 30$ then at any place in Vietnam.
And yes...the reason for being a wasteland is the strong hand of the police. The fews on offer have to make good their big risk. Because once booted, they end up in education camps of the worse
The last couple of days I stayed in Hanoi. And on one afternoon I was approached by a tout offering my girls for "bum-bum" (many young girls: the staring rate was 1. 000. 000 VND but we agreed on 500. 000 VND) in a place at West Lake. Since it was still afternoon and I was still not finished with my sightseeing, I told him to meet me at 8 pm.
So at 8 pm we met and we took a motorbike taxi to that place (20. 000 VND one way from the old quarter – 10 to 15 minutes).
After we arrived, the manager of that place called the girls out of their rooms and they lined up for me on the second floor and I could choose. My first choice was a cute little one and we went into the room. Still with the tout who was waiting for the money. Since the girl seemed a little bit young I asked him how old she is (the girls speak hardly any English! ) and he asked her and finally he proudly told me that she is 16 and a half years old! Shit, that was much too young and I refused her which the tout couldn’t understand ("very young, good bum-bum") and I chose another one. Again I asked for the age. And this time after some discussions in Vietnamese he came up and said she is 18 years old. Well, I could believe that or not. And since I wanted to have some action I agreed.
After I gave him the money he left (he was asking for extra money for him and I told him afterwards I would give him some).
The sex was ok: BBBJ, DATY, some positions and she allowed me to take photos of her. But without face. But I was feeling not so comfortable and I finished fast and left. Total damage: 500. 000 VND for the manager, 100. 000 VND tip for the girl, 40. 000 VND for the motorbike taxi.
Since I knew the directions now I went there a couple of days later again and found out that there are actually about 6-8 houses like this in that same street within 100 meters. Since I was this time without a tout I could get the girl for 400. 000 VND (maybe still too much. But ok).
Again: BBBJ, DATY, some positions and she allowed me to take photos. This time I was feeling more relaxed and could enjoy it more.
These places seem ok, but of course since prostitution in Vietnam is illegal this is kind of dangerous! So take care guys!
Directions for this place:
Go to West lake, pass by the Sofitel and the Sheraton; as soon as you have passed by the Sheraton, turn left and pass by Sheraton’s second entry. Go on and take the third street to the left (after the Golden resort). Proceed in this street for 300 m, and then the street name changes to:
Ngo 52 Duong To Ngoc Van.
Then you have arrived and will see some men sitting on the street in front of houses (former small hotels? ) and waving you in. And then you just mention bum-bum and settle for the price and choose your girl.
Prices: as I said: it should be around 300. 000 – 400. 000 VND for short time!
Happy mongering!
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Decided it was "public service time" during a recent short visit to Hanoi.
Since I had rented a bike for the next 24 hours, I proceeded to ride to the location of the Sheraton and followed the directions as closely as I could.
I started to doubt the directions when I could not find the “Golden Resort”.
I went up and down that road just pass the Sheraton’s 2nd entry point twice.
Finally, I decided to do a road count and take the third street after the entrance of the Sheraton while ignoring smaller turn offs and there it was – “Duong To Ngoc Van” road!
Halfway down that road, the men sitting under open umbrellas outside small “hotels” waved away at me as I rode by.
So, HERE ARE THE NEW DIRECTIONS AS CLEAR AS I CAN WRITE THEM:
"Turn off the main road toward the second entrance of the Sheraton (coming from the Sofitel).
Go past that 2nd entrance.
Go past the Fraser's Suite building.
Go past the road where there is a signboard for the Ho Tay Resort.
Take the next turning left (3rd road after 2nd entrance of Sheraton). That is Duong To Ngoc Van Road."
Continuation of this FR,
I did not want to partake as I dislike ST action on premise myself.
I had also checked out "Doson" (near Haiphong) in previous visit and would say that this is similar but perhaps slightly more in terms of costs. There was a similar look to this place for sure.
My objective was to locate the BBS places for other mongers. The result is that I did not determine prices as posted nor check out the quality of the girls. It was also quite early at 2pm and I did not think the best talents would be on show as at that time.
My take is that if a foreigner came without speaking Vietnamese, those mentioned prices would be valid. Going by what was being charged in Doson, my own belief is that prices should be somewhere in the region of 150,00 to 300,000 for ST maximum. Perhaps a Viet speaking monger will be able to verify my “speculation”.
At the end of this road, you have a kind of restaurant and just before that, a modern terrace restaurant called “Phuong Quyen” with a large 2nd floor terrace overlooking the Lake.
My thoughts are that if you are going with a taxi, you should give the name of this restaurant (Phuong Quyen), and the name of the road “Duong To Ngoc Van” and let him take you there and drop off at the restaurant. You will have passed the BBS places when you arrive at the restaurant.
Go to the restaurant to enjoy a beer and the view of the Lake to shake off the taxi driver. (This because I dislike the leeching behaviors of taxi drivers most places and their commission demanding ways!)
After your drink by which time you should be rid of him (hopefully), you walk back to the BBS places and partake of the choices available at the best prices without commission!
If you are riding a bike like me, you would pass the 2nd entrance of the Sheraton, pass the Fraser’s Suite building, the road junction of the Ho Tay Resort and enter the next road which would be “Duong To Ngoc Van”.
My nokia map for Hanoi (as for Ho Chi Minh City) does not have up to date road details unlike the excellent detailed maps for much of the rest of Asia!
Nevertheless, I was able to lock in the location and coordinates for other mongers to use. 21.0691 degrees N and 105.8241 degrees E.
Posted here are some of the relevant pictures to get you there!
Have fun and post your FRs.
Decided it was "public service time" during a recent short visit to Hanoi.
Crazier,
Thanks for these unusually accurate directions. It is rare that someone actually provides exact locations and suggestions for navigating. The restaurant way point, for example, is invaluable.
I spent about on hour on the back of a honda-om looking for this place last March and finally gave up.
Welcome, and here I am chatting up the beer promoter who just doesnt want me! This is more exciting & d BBS comes in handy when we fail! Love the wifi all over this town & my wifi phone.
I spent at least 40 mins too today!
Have fun.
C.
2:84 Ngoc Khan, Sauna massage, opposite Lake Side Hotel
60 minutes VND 100,000, clean and cool, with individual showers with each cubicle, girls dressed in uniforms with long pants, soso massage, but touch the right parts (or in close vicinity of) to raise your interest, offered HJ, but asking 300,000, agreed to 200,000, soso HJ, not again...
146 (I think) Giang Vo, Sauna massage, next to exibition center, 4th floor of hotel
60 minutes 90,000, clean and with AC, but showers across the aisle, quite attractive girl, dressed in uniform with shorts, Thai-style massage well executed (fingers snipping, walking on your back etc.) and again with touching near the right parts to raise your interest (and dick, too), at one point my dick was 3/4 erect and waiving under that little towel, asking price for HJ 500,000, totally mad, declined offer, so "medical" massage was continued, not again for sure...
Both places had individual rooms, but with little windows in the door. So by-passers can look inside. HJ means, the girl is watching the door and does it covered, under the towel, of course BJ not possible.
When I was going across town by taxi on late Saturday night, I was amazed about the number of massage parlours with full neon lights on.
Z
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4Xx, Kim Ma, "massage"
Small storefront, less than 20 feet wide, I was hustled inside, pretty girl in shorts, nice smile, from her gesture it was clear they did not even pretend to provide a "medical" massage, offered BJ and HJ
Followed to room upstairs, narrow stairs, children crying, local guys drinking tea, massage roome with about 6 beds, the far one separated by curtain, girl took me to this one, bottled water and disposable wet towels for cleaning, no shower or running water, hot, no AC, just fan, I almost left the place, but was too curious.
I laid on the bed (no fresh sheets.) naked (except for socks), she dropped her shorts a little (hairy.) and started a little bit of body kissing, strocking, kissing and licking dick, no proper BJ, though, finished after some 15 minutes,
Girl was satisfied after I produced 200,000, guy downstairs asked for another 100, 000, I was happy to be close to my hotel with shower.
After this and the previous experience I am quite disappointed by the value for money in this country for certain services. OK in absolute terms it is little money, but get even less in return.
Pricing for room/girl and performance at Fortuna/Boss suggests to better spend the money for a weekend trip to Bangkok.
Z
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No longer update,
Massage Trade Hotel, next to Lakeside, Ngoc Khanh Street, Hanoi.
Ticket 70,000 VDN/hour
Tip 100,000 VND/ HJ
Have good moment at here.
I went yesterday and it was ok. But here is the thing. Last night my balls started itching and they continue to itch this morning. The girl gave them one good lick...so maybe thrush...or crabs.
Can anyone recommend what to do? I'm not familiar with Hanoi or itchy balls. Also, I am taking the train to HCMC tonight.
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As for a report, I was called in by a guy asking if I was looking for boom boom. The street itself wasn't as shady as I expected. There are westerners and legitimate businesses around. The restaurant at the end of the street caters primarily to vietnamese, but is ok with nice view.
So I went in and was offered a selection of 4-5 girls.
Picked one. Mamason requested 500K. I offered 400k, but she was firm.
Performance was lackluster, but no problems or attitude.
After, girl asked for tip. Gave 100k. She wanted more, but I only gave 100k.
Plenty of taxis around down the street, but be wary of taxis with fast meters or slow meandering drivers. I got the latter here. After some attempt at reasoning with the driver, I just got out and without paying walked to my destination.
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I went yesterday and it was ok. But here is the thing. Last night my balls started itching and they continue to itch this morning. The girl gave them one good lick...so maybe thrush...or crabs.
Can anyone recommend what to do? I'm not familiar with Hanoi or itchy balls. Also, I am taking the train to HCMC tonight.
In HCMC there is an International Medical Clinic on Dong Khoi at the Cathedral end.
Or if you want to self-diagnose go to a pharmacy and ask for amoxycillin - get the 1000 mg ones for some punch. But beware - if you use this stuff too much the bugs become immune to it.
Last night my buddy and I went there to check out the place, several Vietnamese guys covering the front of the place, old and beaten down building.
They started with asking for 100 USD and I said no way, so I scratch on a piece of paper 300,000 VND he counter with 1,000,000 VND, again I laugh at him and we finally settled for 500,000 VND.
My buddy choose a very beautiful Vietnamese girl around 22 to 24 years old but what a disappointment. My buddy said no BJ and the girl started chanting money money even before they started the deed. He said he has never had such poor service in all his life. He pull off his condom and threw it to the floor and got dressed and waited for me downstairs.
Mine was cute but not the knock out that he choose, she gave me a good BBBJ and gave me good service, I gave her 100K VND tip, she asked for 200K VND. As I walked down the stairs I bummed into my buddy's girl and she was chanting at me money money money. I had no idea why she was saying that until I talked to my buddy.
We laughed and said that's the danger when you pick the hot one, they usually get too much business and their pussy's are all dried out and got the big attitude. Next week we go back to China, Shenzhen and Dongguang where you don't get this kinda shit.
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Explorerman
09-21-08, 07:37
Hi,
I checked out one place near the Sheraton yesterday that has been mentioned here before. It is a few hundred meters to the right of the Sheraton exit. Nice sauna and massage for 200,000, and for a 300,000 tip I could get a covered HJ. That is more expensive than some places in town, where massage and the same service for 100, 000, so 300, 000 total damage. Perhaps there is more competition in the city, or maybe everything is more expensive around West Lake?
Also, I am moving for a couple months to an apartment in Ciputra. It is north of West Lake. Can anyone suggest any places there? I have given up on FS here for the most part, but massage with HJ or ideally BJ is always welcome.
Explorerman
09-21-08, 11:52
Last night my buddy and I went there to check out the place, several Vietnamese guys covering the front of the place, old and beaten down building.
They started with asking for 100 USD and I said no way, so I scratch on a piece of paper 300,000 VND he counter with 1,000,000 VND, again I laugh at him and we finally settled for 500,000 VND.
My buddy choose a very beautiful Vietnamese girl around 22 to 24 years old but what a disappointment. My buddy said no BJ and the girl started chanting money money even before they started the deed. He said he has never had such poor service in all his life. He pull off his condom and threw it to the floor and got dressed and waited for me downstairs.
Mine was cute but not the knock out that he choose, she gave me a good BBBJ and gave me good service, I gave her 100K VND tip, she asked for 200K VND. As I walked down the stairs I bummed into my buddy's girl and she was chanting at me money money money. I had no idea why she was saying that until I talked to my buddy.
We laughed and said that's the danger when you pick the hot one, they usually get too much business and their pussy's are all dried out and got the big attitude. I had a smilar experience, and may have also got Miss Money Money. She was gorgeous, but all talky talky. Never into it. Would not allow much touching her, etc. She wanted to get the whole thing over, but it was gross in there, hot, and she was laughing or grimacing most of the time. I stopped, had a quick rinse, and left her. She still wanted money money, but only gave her a little, just to shut her up, and I was also a little worried with the 10 or so guys downstairs.
I will never go back.
Frustrated, I went nearby to the Tay Ho Resort for a massage. Took their top package for $20, and got a sauna, steam and wash, then a Thai-style massage, which had a happy ending. So the day was not a complete disaster.
GoodEnough
10-03-08, 13:40
Guys:
I lived in Hanoi for six months about five years ago and though I had a great time while there, I haven't been back since. Now I'm thinking of going again for a week or so, but I'm getting discouraged by what appears to be a scene that's changed radically since I was there. I've read several pages of the back posts, but find no references to Apocalypse Now, which was terrific when I lived there, and was just up the street from my apartment. Has it closed?
I also remember a disco, I think it might have been called Century or perhaps New Century, where I met several extremely good looking, and very expert young women, yet I find no references to this place either. Has it gone the way of history as well?
When I lived in the city, it was never a problem to find girls to stay overnight, but the prices were nowhere near what you guys are quoting and four times more than the base prices here in the Philippines.
Any updates on the two places I mentioned would be appreciated.
Thanks.
GE
Guys:
I lived in Hanoi for six months about five years ago....
GE
Good Enough:
Unfortunately, the original Hanoi Apocalypse Now closed down and moved to a new, glitzy location several years ago. The new address is
Apocalypse Now
2 Dong Tac
Quan Dong Da
Hanoi
I have only been there once, and it was too early in the evening. No customers had yet arrived so I just had a beer at the bar and left. The new AN is a large, slickly decorated room—none of the sleazy ambiance of the original, tiny, dimly lighted place that we knew and loved.
New Century was closed down after a drug raid a couple of years ago. Hotels like the Hanoi and Fortuna run dance floors and karaoke rooms where girls can be taken out, but the small, intimate clubs of 10 years ago seem to have vanished.
GoodEnough
10-04-08, 05:27
Co Van My, thanks for responding. I guess I'll cross Hanoi off my list of places for my next trip outside the Philippines. If Apocalypse now is new and glitzy, the financial expectations of the girls have probably increased as well. The old place was great. It was about a 1 minutes motorcycle ride from my apartment. So I could leave my place at about 11 pop a young lovely on the back of the bike by 11:30 or midnight and be home and in bed a few minutes later. I never had a hassle bringing back the women, though they did have to leave their IDs at the front desk.
Is there no place else in town with a reasonable selection of freelancers; a place that requires neither bar fines nor ladies drinks?
GE
Is there no place else in town with a reasonable selection of freelancers; a place that requires neither bar fines nor ladies drinks?
GE
I've only been to Hanoi on quick visits during the last couple of years and I have not had time to do a careful recon for good freelancer bars. Seventeen on Tran Hung Dao often has some, and you can sometimes get lucky at Relax Bar, 60 Ly Thuong Kiet, but in general the pickings are very slim.
The city is full of very nasty karaoke places where anything goes, especially out in the area of Nguyen Trai Street, but that's not everyone's cup of tea.
Skinmissile
10-22-08, 12:14
hanoi, saturday.
i managed to keep it in my pants in hanoi for week before i finally threw in the towel and decided that i would treat myself to a sauna and massage. following the advice of geneva guy i decided to take a very short walk from my hotel in the old quarter to the sauna and massage joint above legends beer. upon entering the waiting area i was enthusiastically greeted by a couple of cute hotties. not knowing what to expect i was taken a bit by surprise and i'm sure i had the deer in headlights look. i opted for the 90 minute massage, and i was escorted to one of at least a dozen private rooms. as i was undressing the masseuse came in. i was a bit disappointed that it wasn't the one of the hot young things that greeted me in the lobby. i'm guessing she was pushing 36 to 37 years of age and i'd give her a 6/10 for overall looks. she was dressed in a very tight white t-shirt and short shorts. she escorted me to the sauna and after having sufficiently cleansed my pores we went back to the room. she started a bit slowly sticking to a deep tissue massage but gradually grew bolder by sliding her hands up my legs under my towel to tease my balls. once we both figured out that a hj was on the table for negotiation she went to work with negotiations. unfortunately her english was rather poor albeit better than my vietnamese. she pressed forward and what followed was a very vigorous and efficient hand job. she had tiny hands and it was a turn on for me to watch her double fist my cock as she pumped it like a pro. i tried feeling her up a bit and while she let me grope her ass, she grimaced a bit when i tried to go deeper so i backed off and enjoyed the milking she was giving me. i managed to hold draw it out for all of 10 minutes before i popped. she was a bit shocked and quickly tried to mop up the mess. unfortunately the tip negotiation lacked all tact on her behalf as she attempted to plead with me and hoover every spare dong from my wallet. $20 to the house for the massage and $15 to the hoover. overall 5/10. better than wanking but not by much due to the buzzkill of begging.
i went back to my hotel room and took a "disco nap" before heading out for some beer. once i cleared the cobwebs i went up the street to le pub to scowl at backpackers and after 4 or 5 bia ha noi and four shooters i decided to head over to minh's jazz club to see if the reports of fls were true. at this point it was nearly 11pm and as i walked over to minh's it was remarkable how quiet the streets were. nearly all businesses were closed save for some street food "cafes". some street smiles sent and recieved. clearly some time invested prowling could pay off but not really my style or preference. it was a short five minute walk to minh's and when i got there the place was at about 80% capacity. i manged to belly up to the bar and ordered another beer. i swiveled in my barstool to listen to the jazz and watch the show. within 90 seconds i notice someone park themselves next to me. i look over my shoulder and i see a cute viet girl, all tarted up being escorted by an older, fatter punter. he made, at what seemed at the time, a critical error and went off to the restroom. again i looked over my shoulders and exchanged knwoing smiles with the tart. i struck up what little conversation i could with the girl and whenthe punter return he realized she had changed horses and excused himself for the evening. minh's closed down at 11:30(wtf!) and the tart and i decided to go for another drink. at this point i had over shot my buzz but i said to hell with it and pressed on. within a very short time we broached the critical "your place or mine" question. i knew the type of hotel i was staying in wasn't going to let guests slide so i opted for "her place". her place ended up being a reasonably clean short time hotel. i paid the desk up front and once upstairs she quickly got to business. too quickly for my taste. what ensued was a very hurried hump session using a terribly small condom. after about 10 minutes of humping she hopped off my dick and realized she was getting her period. ugh! wtf! she peeled of the condom and switched to "plan b" which was a very skillful bbbj. unfortunately for me i was entirely put off and i could not finish in the time she had alloted. we both got dressed and stormed out of the hotel. i was too tired and too drunk to argue. plus my "spidey sense" was telling me that it was time to head back to the hotel and find safe harbor. by that time it was 1:30am and i managed to get a xe om back to my hotel for 50,000. terrible terrible experience. i miss thailand.
hue.
i don't have much to say about hue except that the women are definately better looking in hue than hanoi. i spent quite a bit of time chatting up some bar staff in a couple of bars. one doll was kind enough to give me her spare sim card and save me $15. we played some lively and flirtacious games of dominoes before i finally closed my tab. later that same evening as i was leaving bar why not? i was cornered by 4 of the sweetheart waitresses under the pretense of practicing their english. all four had recently started working at the bar and were new students at the local university. it was again clear to me that some investment in time would pay off with the good girls. after my experience in hanoi i didn't explore any massage parlors though one xe om driver was quite eager to show me the "sights" i declined as i was headed to danang the following day.
danang... wednesday
i rolled into danang from hue via a four hour train ride. quite a nice ride actually as the rails snake their way along the coastline. i caught a taxi to the bamboo green and after showering i decided to give the in-room massage services a shot. i was keeping my expectations low as i waited for the girl to come up to my room. after an anxious 5 minuted the doorbell finally rang. i peeped thru the door and low and behold was the girl. i opened the door and greeted her in my towel. she she rolled into the room like a giggling playful tornado. cute face, certainly no dog. smallish tits and one of the most rediculously hot ba-donkadonk asses i've seem in my 2.5 weeks in vietnam. certainly no "teacup thai asscheeks" i've grown accustomed to. she quickly bounced around the room and drew all the shades closed, ripped my towel off and threw me down on the bed. all pretense of a legitimate massage went out the window. she began to knucklecrack nearly every joint in my body and very quickly the cockteasing began. she insisted on a quick shower which didn't bother me as she was very flirtacious and playful bathing us both. back to the bed and nekkid, she freely explored my body and allowed me to explore hers. she was very clear and upfront that there would be "no boom boom". i had low expectations going in so i was not terribly dissapointed. after some heavy petting she got down to a decent bbj and almost immediately assumed the 69 and asked me to daty. i normally don't with strangers but the temptation was too much for me to not flick away at her clit. she was obviously into it and very quickly the juices flowed. much fingering, sucking and stroking for both of us. we spent the entire hour playing and both of us enjoyed climaxes. i am certain that had she not been on the clock that full service would have been rendered.
after we finished she did beg a bit over the tip i gave her but i stood firm. learning my lessons from hanoi i had previously staged my wallet so as to not have more than the 160k massage fee and a 200k tip. after some pleading i pulled an additional 100k and "emptied" my wallet for her down to my "last" dong. she felt bad and gave me my small change back. she asked for my vow of secrecy and before she left we exchanged mobile numbers so we could meet again without the intermediary services of the hotel. overall 8/10. viva danang!
it seems to get better the farther you go south. saigon here i come.
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Fallenangel
10-27-08, 13:56
Hi All,
I've just arrived to Hanoi (living in Daewoo) and looking for some company / guide to have some good night here! Any of you guys just here and/or have some good tips where to go as a first timer here?
BR
Fallenangel
10-27-08, 14:23
Hi there,
I've just arrived to Hanoi and looking for some guideline or a good company where to start the nightlife. Living in the Daewoo for 2 weeks, mostly for business but I do not want to miss the beauties of the country :)
Thanks and Regards,
Fallenangel
Hi there,
I've just arrived to Hanoi and looking for some guideline or a good company where to start the nightlife. Living in the Daewoo for 2 weeks, mostly for business but I do not want to miss the beauties of the country :)
Thanks and Regards,
Fallenangel
The easiest place to start is the disco/karaoke club located on the hotel grounds. Just go out through the front door of the hotel, turn right and you will be there. The club girls can come to your room. It's expensive (my memory is $100), but it's very convenient and comfortable for a first timer.
Fallenangel
10-27-08, 16:40
... The club girls can come to your room. It's expensive (my memory is $100), but it's very convenient and comfortable for a first timer.
Thanx many much!
I'm new here, but not a real "first timer" around the region, so the 100$ seems a bit much for an hour or so. (OK I spend too much time in Manila :) ) but thanks anyway, I'll try to discover the town.
fallenangel]Thanx many much!...
I understand completely. $100 is too much for anyone who knows his way around town. I misread your experience factor. Try the karaoke places out on Duong Nguyen Trai.
The last couple of days I stayed in Hanoi. Today went to Duong To Ngoc Van. First place I went in the manager (young guy) asked 500K. I said no and went out. The second place we agreed on 400k. 4-5 girls were there I choose one and we went into the room. I asked to change the sheet on the bed and switch on the air conditioner. They changed the sheet and switched on the air conditioner and showed me that I have to pay additional 100k. I said no, give me money back. He said ok-ok and went out the room. My girl went into bathroom and shortly come back and showed me to go to bathroom. It was not very clean and I decided do not use the shower. She switched off the light and showed me to lie down on the bed. She started BBBJ then I was ready soon and asked her to put condom and tried several positions. The sex was ok. Totally I spent: 400. 000 VND for the manager, 5USD tip for the girl, 50. 000 VND for the taxi.
Just spent a couple of days in Hanoi. Paid $220 (tip included) for 2 hrs. This is of course way more than the kinds of prices others are reporting. However, I was very satisfied, because I was on business and couldn't run around town looking for bargains. So this was conveniently through a night club where I had the pick of girls who were 9's and 10's, where the girls could come right up to my room later, and where the girl was GFE, wasn't checking the clock, and didn't have that Saigon attitude problem. Expensive for SE Asia, but still a bargain compared to Tokyo or the US, especially considering the how great VN gals can be if you find the right one.
Richo Stevens
11-01-08, 18:00
Dear members,
I am heading to Vietnam in January next year, its my first trip and I have no idea what to expect. I've encountered vietnamese girls in the Sauna's of Macau and they've all been pretty damn awesome. So where to find these beauties? Reading through the reports it seems that it is high and low between the 9's and 10's.
Vietnam is my last country in South East Asia to visit, so based on my previous travel I think I could find some places. But no chance I will find the good places without the help from you guys. I can fly in to Hanoi or HCMC from Bangkok, which city would be the best. Both for girls and climate in January?
Maybe anyone would like to meet up for a drink or two or three and a some help in the jungle?
Thanks!
Explorerman
11-07-08, 05:38
Just spent a couple of days in Hanoi. Paid $220 (tip included) for 2 hrs. This is of course way more than the kinds of prices others are reporting. However, I was very satisfied, because I was on business and couldn't run around town looking for bargains. So this was conveniently through a night club where I had the pick of girls who were 9's and 10's, where the girls could come right up to my room later, and where the girl was GFE, wasn't checking the clock, and didn't have that Saigon attitude problem. Expensive for SE Asia, but still a bargain compared to Tokyo or the US, especially considering the how great VN gals can be if you find the right one.Do you mind sharing which night club?
You did pay way too much, but I understand the convenience factor. I was just some place else, and paid too much for the convenience of a great gal in the hotel. You might have been able to get even that expensive convenience for half of what you paid. Of course, as you can tell, you can get service here for as little as $20-25, but quality of location and looks are not the same, not even close. But for $40-50, you can usually do pretty well in decent places. So you paid a premium for convenience and for having her to your room.
Do you mind sharing which night club?
You did pay way too much, but I understand the convenience factor. I was just some place else, and paid too much for the convenience of a great gal in the hotel. You might have been able to get even that expensive convenience for half of what you paid. Of course, as you can tell, you can get service here for as little as $20-25, but quality of location and looks are not the same, not even close. But for $40-50, you can usually do pretty well in decent places. So you paid a premium for convenience and for having her to your room.
If you RTFF you will see Fortuna Hotel mentioned as having a club downstairs and an arrangment for the gals to follow you to your room via the servoice elevator. There is a $30 cover to get in plus drinks etc. and that gals will want at least $100 but they are all lookers.
There are limited places for some civilised action in Hanoi and this tends to push the prices up.
What you get for the $20 -$50 range tends to be pretty rough and ready in terms of facilities and the girl.
Last night I went to small massage parlour somewhere near Kim Ma. I paid 100.000 to the receptionist and a reasonably pretty girl guided me to the room, with individual shower and mini steam sauna, gave me towel and a loose pair of shorts.
The massage was good and competent, with the shorts lowered immediately so she could stroke my butt and back. After only few minutes two other, even prettier girls, one in her massage uniform, one in tight jeans and top, sneaked into the room. I was still lying on my belly, the older one was still doing the “proper” massage, but the two younger ones started to tease me, throwing kisses, licking lips, tickling my back and belly. They urged me to turn around, asked “massage baby”. After some negotiations we agreed to a tip of 300.000 for the three.
The older one reached under the shorts and started the deed, with the other two keeping on with tickling and stroking my other parts, with lots of giggling and laughs which diverted my attention and consequently delayed finalisation. The two in uniform were suggesting I should take the one in jeans to my hotel to make a baby. Communication in English was hardly possible, but gestures were unmistakable. And the second one in uniform supported her senior colleague by tickling my balls. Occasionally they checked the door (which had a small window at eye level) and then hide on the floor, so I assume that this would not have been officially tolerated by the management.
After the deed was completed, I got showered again and dressed, the three asked me out for a coffee. The took me to a small outdoor kiosk nearby (with children’s stools etc.), and we had coffee. We exchanged phone numbers and my hotel’s card, but nothing happened afterwards, so far. They even refused to let me pay the coffee.
It might not have been the ultimate experience in professional paysex, but the girls were giggling all the time and apparently had there share of fun. Frankly, I would have hesitated to actually take her to my family run hotel and possibly the girl had similar reservations, at least after I made clear I would not want to make a baby.
Z
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ReallyaNiceGuy
11-12-08, 09:41
I'm all done in the Philippines and will be moving on to the next leg of my travels. I'll be arriving in Hanoi tomorrow about 2 PM and plan on staying for 3 or 4 days.
I will be staying at the Hanoi Palace Hotel on Luong Ngoc Quyen Street. I have no idea where it is or what/if it's close to anything.
I would like some guidance or ideas if you don't mind sharing.
If anyone is around and wants to meet for a drink please PM me.
See you soon.
Mike
Joe Nailer
11-13-08, 16:18
Last night I went to small massage parlour somewhere near Kim Ma. I paid 100.000 to the receptionist and a reasonably pretty girl guided me to the room, with individual shower and mini steam sauna, gave me towel and a loose pair of shorts.
Thanks for info.
But its really shame you cannot tell where it was.
Because Kim Ma is very long street.
Near Bus station? Near Daewoo Hotel?
Sorry to say without more specific info re location, it's not much use for anyone really. :(
I am intentionally vague to protect anonymity (the MP’s, the girls’, mine) and not to raise high expectations.
It was not my first visit to that place, and the ones before (some months ago) and one after were not that special (with better massage, though). I myself visited a place with a great report, Emperor at 154 Trieu Viet Vuong and possibly had the same girl, but was disappointed, by the girls' skills and even more by the hygienic circumstances, with only wet towels for cleaning (throwaway, as I hope).
Personally, I go for the massage rather than the mechanical wank. I avoid places facing any main roads, near international hotels or with excessive neon signs. Presumably all places offer "extras", because the temptation for girl (money) and the customer (already exposed naked) are too much. And owners refrain from too actively discourage “extras”. However, quality of "extras" is not consistent more than elsewhere depends on sympathy and mood. This country is conservative and officially prudish. Giggling and laughter to some extend is to manage embarrassment rather genuine fun.
I am friendly with the girls and play good guy. In an ideal case, the girl’s intrinsic female ambition to tease and manipulate the guy should be the driving factor, rather than the higher tip. An exceptional performance or experience is not necessarily repeatable. Enjoy the hunt rather than the prey.
Zappp: That's a very good point that you make. I think a lot of us tend to forget that, as we fall under the spell of a pretty and charming working gal. We forget that she's basically doing a job, and that in reality she and others like her are probably very "unliberated" and conservative in real-life. I say this because of a recent experience I had with a real Saigon beauty....
This country is conservative and officially prudish. Giggling and laughter to some extend is to manage embarrassment rather genuine fun.
Hanoi Hotel's night club. Caters largely to Asian clientele. About $50 cover charge. $150 to the house to take the gal out. And figure on tipping the Madame and then the gal. Not cheap, but well worth it, in my opinion. Some of us on business trips can't risk the seedy massage parlor, motorbike ride, cheap hotel room, possible LE intervention, etc.
Do you mind sharing which night club?
ReallyaNiceGuy
11-16-08, 02:36
This really is a tough city to find any action. I've just discovered a massage place across and down the street from my hotel. I asked the 2 night front desk guys about it and they said to try it but I was too tired last night so I passed. Maybe today.
One glimmer of hope though, yesterday I meet a 21 year old collage girl. She helped me get a new SIMM card, we went to a pagoda, had ice cream and just hung out. Today she is going to meet me at my hotel and wants to show me Around Hanoi using the bus. Oh yea, she said she need help. We'll see what come of it.
I haven't given up and I'm going to spend at least another night trying.
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
11-18-08, 16:48
Well it turns out that my little collage girl really did need help. And I was glad to what I could do to help her.
She showed up at my hotel Sunday morning as she promised. Sitting on the bed and one thing led to another and we did the deed. She really got all hot and bothered during the kissing and groping. She enjoyed it as much as I did and she had no restrictions. Total GFE for over 2 hours and she didn’t say a word about money either!
We went out and saw the sights for the day and she was a cheap date too. She had a monthly bus pass so she was free and being a student she got into all the sites we went to free as well. I only had to pay for myself a few buck for lunch. After we were done site seeing for the day we returned to my hotel and had another round.
Before she left I asked her about needing help and if I could help her. She said she could use some money for school so I ask how much she needed and she said 500,000 Dong. Done! And she was happy.
I still don’t know if she does this often or not but my gut feeling is she doesn’t. Just needs/wants money from time to time I think.
But wait until you hear what happened on Monday. I’ll try and post it soon and with photos.
Mike
That's around $30 USD for all day, and GFE. No one wants to pay too much. But paying too little is just as bad. Frankly, you seem rather cheap. Nothing like taking advantage of an amateur....
She said she could use some money for school so I ask how much she needed and she said 500,000 Dong. Done!
ReallyaNiceGuy
11-19-08, 08:17
That's around $30 USD for all day, and GFE. No one wants to pay too much. But paying too little is just as bad. Frankly, you seem rather cheap. Nothing like taking advantage of an amateur....
I gave her what she ask for and she was happy.
But you have a point, I could have set her down and explained the market to her.
And you are not putting any value to the time I spent teaching/helping her with her English. LOL
To each their own. You pay what you want and I'll pay what I want. OK?
Peace,
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
11-19-08, 08:40
Thuy told me she wanted to get together again on Monday before I left town and she would leave school early to meet me. She said school was from 7 to 11 AM but she would leave at 9 AM and meet me at my hotel around 9:30 AM. The front desk called to tell me I had a visitor and I told them to send her up. When I opened the door I see that Thuy has brought her friend Thien, the same girl that was with her when we first meet. I invite them in and we all set on the bed and talk for a bit. What Thuy tells me next floors me, she then tells me that her friend Thien needs help too. What? Do I understand you right, you want me to have sex with her too? She does and Thien wants to too. I ask Thien if this is true and she said it was, she threw her arms around me and proceeded to give me a big wet kiss. Thuy then said but only once because they want to take me to Bat Trang before I leave and if it’s OK could I give Thien 250,000 Dong. Sure, who am I to argue with them? Neither of us had change so I gave her 300,000.
Thuy left us alone, we took a shower together that was fun and sensual. In bed Thien was even better Thuy! We went at it for over an hour then a quick shower together, we got dressed and joined Thuy down stairs. I checked out of the hotel and then we went to City View Restaurant for lunch. After lunch we went to Bat Trang and we had a blast together.
We took the bus from Bat Trang to the city, got a cab back to my hotel to get my luggage then we went to Sien Café so I could catch the bus to Da Nang. We said good-bye and promised to never forget each other and they were on their way to catch their bus home.
Mike
OMG, I'm really going to get blasted for being cheap this time.
Fair enough. Good luck and happy mongering.
To each their own. You pay what you want and I'll pay what I want. OK? Peace, Mike
That's around $30 USD for all day, and GFE. No one wants to pay too much. But paying too little is just as bad. Frankly, you seem rather cheap. Nothing like taking advantage of an amateur....
Let us not forget that the amateurs or freebies play all kind of mind games with themselves to justify to themselves that they are not a 'bad girl' or on the game. This might well include only accepting the money that they need for a specific purpose.
I have had plenty of Viet 'freebies' who were reluctant to accept money the morning after. The whole money thing becomes a game to help them a little but not let them lose face.
I think that RNG has asked the gal what she wanted and provided it to her and that is fair enough!
Hey Mike,
Seems to me that you didn't leave your charm behind in the Philippines...
Kudos to you!!!
Enjoy your trip - I just wish we were back in Angeles City having fun with the local girls again.
Peace,
Fedex
Thuy told me she wanted to get together again on Monday before I left town and she would leave school early to meet me. She said school was from 7 to 11 AM but she would leave at 9 AM and meet me at my hotel around 9:30 AM. The front desk called to tell me I had a visitor and I told them to send her up. When I opened the door I see that Thuy has brought her friend Thien, the same girl that was with her when we first meet. I invite them in and we all set on the bed and talk for a bit. What Thuy tells me next floors me, she then tells me that her friend Thien needs help too. What? Do I understand you right, you want me to have sex with her too? She does and Thien wants to too. I ask Thien if this is true and she said it was, she threw her arms around me and proceeded to give me a big wet kiss. Thuy then said but only once because they want to take me to Bat Trang before I leave and if it’s OK could I give Thien 250,000 Dong. Sure, who am I to argue with them? Neither of us had change so I gave her 300,000.
Thuy left us alone, we took a shower together that was fun and sensual. In bed Thien was even better Thuy! We went at it for over an hour then a quick shower together, we got dressed and joined Thuy down stairs. I checked out of the hotel and then we went to City View Restaurant for lunch. After lunch we went to Bat Trang and we had a blast together.
We took the bus from Bat Trang to the city, got a cab back to my hotel to get my luggage then we went to Sien Café so I could catch the bus to Da Nang. We said good-bye and promised to never forget each other and they were on their way to catch their bus home.
Mike
OMG, I'm really going to get blasted for being cheap this time.
In the meantime, the girls in my "regular" massage place know that I am not quite into that whack off to completion. I get a good massage plus teasing and giggling, at times with up to three or four girls sneaking into my cubicle, who however defend themselves against being touched at their right spots.
Last night two of them agreed to meet me next morning in my hotel. My interpretation of their gestures was that I would receive a BJ. 10:00 AM sharp as agreed they arrived and reception called my in my room. But the girls stayed outside on their motorbike, gesturing I should folloe them on mine. Eventually, we went to a small restaurant to have breakfast (noodle soup). We finished food (which indeed was consistent with last night's gestures, slurping real noodles rather than little Z) and they went off, telling me they go back to work. In a way they are good girls with clear limits. OK, there was some disappointment on my side, after on night of anticipation, but this was much better than real, but poorly performed and overpaid sex.
I must say that in my small family hotel, there are some very nice girls (married, pregnant or with kid) running the reception during daytime shift. So I was anticipating some embarrasment on my side which however did not materialise, as explained above. On the other hand, on late afternoons, I regularly see luxoury cars parked next to the hotel and at times I see local guys entering the hotel with their young girlsfriends (mistresses). Or the girls arrive separately by taxi. Last night, when I came back late, a young local couple on motorbike (no luggage, likely not married) were looking for a room. So that supposedly "family hotel" has in fact substantial business as short-time hotel.
Z
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Hi Mike,
I'm living in Hanoi so if Ms Thuy is looking for a good guy to help her, I'll be glad to give her my number...please MP
I have been away from HN for quite a long time, but every time i'm back to town, there are 2 addresses would like to visit and recommended to you guy.
1. 33 Thai Phien st - opposite Vincom City Towers.
2. 80 Kim Ma st - near intersection with Giang Van Minh, on the right hand side from Son Tay st, just past the bus station.
Ticket 70K
Tips 100K to 150k depend on how you feel.
What you'll get: BBBJ, cum in mouth possible, depend on ladies.
Most of them between in their 20s. Number for "after hour" is possible at No1, but not No.2, unless you're a long time resident in HN.
There are other places on Mai Hac De st too, but services is not that good as the place i recommended.
P/s: i don't know any place in HN similar to #35,49,51 HBT in HCMC, does anyone know such a place exist in HN? Your input will be appreciated.
Cheers
Hanoisimpleman
12-18-08, 09:15
Thuy told me she wanted to get together again on Monday before I left town and she would leave school early to meet me. She said school was from 7 to 11 AM but she would leave at 9 AM and meet me at my hotel around 9:30 AM. The front desk called to tell me I had a visitor and I told them to send her up. When I opened the door I see that Thuy has brought her friend Thien, the same girl that was with her when we first meet. I invite them in and we all set on the bed and talk for a bit. What Thuy tells me next floors me, she then tells me that her friend Thien needs help too. What? Do I understand you right, you want me to have sex with her too? She does and Thien wants to too. I ask Thien if this is true and she said it was, she threw her arms around me and proceeded to give me a big wet kiss. Thuy then said but only once because they want to take me to Bat Trang before I leave and if it’s OK could I give Thien 250,000 Dong. Sure, who am I to argue with them? Neither of us had change so I gave her 300,000.
Thuy left us alone, we took a shower together that was fun and sensual. In bed Thien was even better Thuy! We went at it for over an hour then a quick shower together, we got dressed and joined Thuy down stairs. I checked out of the hotel and then we went to City View Restaurant for lunch. After lunch we went to Bat Trang and we had a blast together.
We took the bus from Bat Trang to the city, got a cab back to my hotel to get my luggage then we went to Sien Café so I could catch the bus to Da Nang. We said good-bye and promised to never forget each other and they were on their way to catch their bus home.
Mike
OMG, I'm really going to get blasted for being cheap this time.Hi Mike,
You were a real Hanoi player when you had a good deal (300,000) with Thien and little bit higher with Thuy, anyway you had her all day. Great deal. As I'm not a subcribing member so I wonder how those gals look for that good deal.
This is the follow up to my original post in 'in other areas' of VN.
(1us = 17k dong)
I took Kodanana's advice and checked out the two massage places (congrats for posting actual addresses), and another post recommending 'pick-up' bars.
80 Kim Ma st.. Went inside. Girl downstairs spoke no English. I said massage she pointed outside! So I walked up the stairs uninvited anyway. Small room has 4 beds with curtains but small gaps inbetween. God knows what you can hear when there is more than one customer. Ugly chick appears from side door and I say how much massage. She writes down 300k (it should be 70k). I say No, so she says 200k. I wasn't sure if she meant all-in-price (ticket + tip). But I'm not prepared to pay money on top of ticket price first. You just don't know what you're going to get.
33 Thai Phien St. Found the place. But it says Cafe on the door. If you look inside there is a dim red light on the left hand side with what looks like a staircase but I didn't want to go in to a Cafe and ask for massage (unless I'm sure it is offered). Even the taxi driver outside didn't think so either.
Can someone please clarify this.
Relax Bar (Tran Hung Dao): I didn't see much action here. If it exists, it is probably for long term expats or teachers. Yes, lots of young chicks who look like they could be on the game. But I think most are bar staff as they keep taking drinks to tables. And they normally chat to young Viet guys anyway.
Better option is.
Relax Bar 2 (Quang Trung/Tran Quoc Toan): Same priced drinks but decent band/singer here. Seems to be more sophisticated than the other bar. More money = more chance of working girls. Got a few looks. Groups of girls hanging around a handful of foreign guys. If there are freelancers here I still don't think it is easy.
Lonely Planet. Yes things are getting desperate when I'm resorting to this source!
Hoa Binh Massage: 110k ticket. The LP book quotes this as a legitimate massage. But I went down and it has a seedy look to it. And there's loads of Asian customers. And I know they like a good whacking off. Can someone confirm this.
Discos. New Century and Apocolyspe have closed. Have asked several people and I am told there is no longer any disco/nightclub in Hanoi! Well, whats the point when everybody in the city seems to go to bed at 23:00. This is because they all wake up at 6m. Usually waking you up in the process.
Word of warning. I think the majority of Vietnamese are money grabbing thieves. Everyone is on the play to rid you of your dollars. Receptionists at massage places will inflate the prices of tickets (stand firm on prices you know. And look for the official menu. Sometimes in Vietnamese though). Look out for Xoa Bop and Xong Hoi on signs. If there is no english massage sign this isn't a bad thing. You may get local prices and local service (more than just a massage). Even though I have a motorbike, when I am lost and ask for directions I would say more than half of taxi drivers/moto guys (I ask these people as there is more chance of them knowing an obscure street) want to drive with me there! No, please just fucking point which direction. Anything to get your cash. This is VN.
Anyway, Do Son (check interesting 'In other areas' post) and Haiphong (LP quotes this as seedy. Sounds great) next.
If there is nothing here I'm off back to Chiang Mai, Pattaya and Phnom Penh.where free sex (well, cost of a meal and drinks) is aplenty!
If I missed something in Hanoi can you please post.
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Vetha Money
01-02-09, 07:38
I'll be over in Hanoi on the 10th january for a few days.
Where can I get some delicious Vietnamese pussy without much hassle?
Hi fellows,
I must say that I have had no problem of finding girls in Hanoi.
If you rent a motorbike and then drive around in the city, you will find the places very easy.
I have done hot toc's, moto-girls and brothels and so far I just have one really bad experience. That was when I was robbed during a BJ in the shower. I was a newbie then, and I forgot to lock the door my self.
After that occasion, I just bring out exactly the money I have thought of spending for the night. I leave cell, wallet and other personal belongings at home.
I try to pay after service is performed, but in some cases when the girl is refusing to get paid after service and she is to beautiful to resist, I say to them that I will pay a bonus if I get happy.
If it's a knock out girl, I often return to the girl even if they don't perform as well as I had wished the first time. I give them a bonus of 50 000 dong (peanuts) and decide a second date before we split up. In all the cases this has been the ice-breaker and had made them to totally change their attitude.
MOTO-GIRLS
Start driving at10 pm on the big road near the river, Than Quang Khai, you can't miss all the girls near the road. On Pho Phuc Tan (the parallel street near the big road), you can find both girls standing on the street and also girl-friendly mini-hotels for 100 000 dong per hour. I pay 200-500' for fs, offer depending on looks.
HOT TOC'S
On Nguyen Binh Khiem there is a an excellent hot toc with a lot of great girls to choose between. In the hot toc near the beginning of the street, there is a girl called Phung that gives great BBBJCIM. Great D-tits.
100 ticket+200 for the service. It's also possible to decide fj with her on a mini-hotel for 800. She is well worth the money. Looks 8 of 10 on my looks scale, attitude 10. I will upload photo of her later on, I forgot my usb.
BROTHELS
Many brothels north of the Tay Ho-lake. Other members have written about them before. I think they are on Duong Loc Long Quan street, if not that one, it's a parallel street. Just to choose a brothel, you will notice where to knock on the door when you are there.
Happy hunting!
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The fantastic tits of Phung. She has a nice face too but i promised her.
Phantomtiger2
01-24-09, 01:01
Lonely Planet. Yes things are getting desperate when I'm resorting to this source!
Hoa Binh Massage: 110k ticket. The LP book quotes this as a legitimate massage. But I went down and it has a seedy look to it. And there's loads of Asian customers. And I know they like a good whacking off. Can someone confirm this.
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If your source is the LP guide books, then most likely the place is legit. Remember that alot of Asians from various countries (both men and women) do go to MP's for legit massages only, for some it's in their culture. Although I may be able to confirm late this year when I'm there (VN) for 1st time and if I'm actually able to find this place.
(do you have the address with possible cross sts?) or perhaps someone on ISG been there and can post.
PT
Phantomtiger2
01-24-09, 02:08
BROTHELS
Many brothels north of the Tay Ho-lake. Other members have written about them before. I think they are on Duong Loc Long Quan street, if not that one, it's a parallel street. Just to choose a brothel, you will notice where to knock on the door when you are there.
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Read back over 18months on this thread and found some mention of these brothels but have anyone gone there recently and got updated prices for these places? Like to get good info so I could have a starting point for neg. without getting ripped off or driving up the prices for others.
Last mentions, the prices varied widely ;anywhere from 150k-500k, so not sure what is the correct figures are.
PT
Phantomtiger2
01-24-09, 02:15
Any advice on whether I should rent a motobike while in Hanoi or just use taxi/buses etc. to get around.
1) what are the requirements for motobike rental, such as needing an Intl. drivers license? or will a regular driver license at home do?
2)prices for bike rental.
3)places to rent motobike from?
4)any safety precautions such as traffic and such as bike theft?--I rented in Cambodia and theft of bikes were rampant even with bike locks.
Thanks
PT
Hanoisimpleman
02-14-09, 07:29
Read back over 18months on this thread and found some mention of these brothels but have anyone gone there recently and got updated prices for these places? Like to get good info so I could have a starting point for neg. without getting ripped off or driving up the prices for others.
Last mentions, the prices varied widely ;anywhere from 150k-500k, so not sure what is the correct figures are.
PTJust pop in any hotel (love hotel) alongside the To Ngoc Van road (parallel road of Dang Thai Mai rd which is the road to TayHo hotel). Just ask the waiter for a FS (use finger signal if he doesnt speak English), then all you have to do is wait in the room and choose your favourite chick from around 5 nominations showcase at the corridor. The price is 200K (VN Dong) for local and around 300-350K for foreigner if my memory battery is ok.
Hope that helps.
Phantomtiger2
02-18-09, 02:19
Thanks Hanoisimpleman,
updated prices are always helpful for me so I know where to start my negotiations and when to walk out.
PT
Hanoisimpleman
02-18-09, 09:15
Any advice on whether I should rent a motobike while in Hanoi or just use taxi/buses etc. to get around.
1) what are the requirements for motobike rental, such as needing an Intl. drivers license? or will a regular driver license at home do?
2)prices for bike rental.
3)places to rent motobike from?
4)any safety precautions such as traffic and such as bike theft?--I rented in Cambodia and theft of bikes were rampant even with bike locks.
Thanks
PTPhantomtiger2!
I prefer the former (rent a motorbike) coz as you appear as white man here, some taxi drivers (even meter ones) are tend to rip you off. Drive a motorbike here is not tough as you thought. Just ask the hotel's staff or find the rental place in the Old quarter. Regarding the bike theft, just rent the cheap and old one (Honda 50-100cc).
Phantomtiger2
02-19-09, 00:26
Phantomtiger2!
, just rent the cheap and old one (Honda 50-100cc).
Thanks pal,
Yeah, tried this in Cambodia also but problem was these old, tired bikes were always dying out, also power sucked.
Could never get into the flow of traffic from a dead start as no acceleration at all. Ladies walking with babies were passing me by--ha ha
But thanks for the advice though.
PT
Brothels are north of the Tay Ho-lake on Duong Loc Long Quan and adjacent streets. This area has quite a few expats and well to do tourists so price seems to be up to 400,000 dong. I had to pay before service but the girl did come thru with a fine performance. Big room and bed with shower.
Note: I agree with TJhooker report on Hanoi Viets in general. Watch your back.
Mr Enforcer
03-12-09, 23:14
I will be a first time visitor to Hanoi in May and wanted to know of a good, clean, girl-friendly hotel in the Old Quarter for approx US$15-30, close to knock shop, barber shops etc. Any info much appreciated!
Member #3423
03-14-09, 06:43
Hello Folks,
I was on a business trip to Hanoi during the time mentioned. I looked for some fun in the evening hours and became very dissapointed.
I stayed in the Sofitel Metropol (there are two of them, the other is the Plaza). The Hotel is nice, but a little expensive in my opinion. Girls are not allowed (didn't tryed it yet, but I was told so)
The Massage Parlors around the cathedral (near Hoa Kiem Lake) offering a good massage, but thats all. Prices are around USD 9,.- for 90 min.
I walked many miles to see some karaoke or other places to "hide", but they all was closed during my stay.
So I looked for the "Motorbike-Gilrs". I just walked the streets between the Opera and the Hilton (Near to Sofitel) and tryed to figure out what happen.
Soon a Girl stopped (First look: 5 out of 10) and asked for 20 USD in a Hotel nearby. OK, lets go. As we reached, she undressed me and laid my trousers and shirts near the bed. While she was riding me (with condom ofc) she somehow managed it to slip her hands into my jeans on the bed and stole my pocket money. (About USD 40,.-) She only left some dollars for me to come back with a taxi. Greedy little biXXX. But astonishing skilful in pikcpocketing. Nvm, I learn from mistakes.
The other day I did the same route, walking around Opera/Sofitel/Hilton and Tran quang Khai and tryed two more girks. (Still 5 out of 10 and no nice fuck) I enconterd that VND 300. 000 are enough for blowing and banging in the warm bed Hotels (very dirty places indeed) and so I only bring that amount with me. This time they beging for more money but I didn't had and the girls brought me back to the Sofitel after the job was done.
I will return in mid-April, maybe somebody can give me some informations about nice places or telephonenumbers of good looking girls in Hanoi (here or with PM).
Bob
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Aviator2020
03-14-09, 17:33
I'll be staying at the Melia for a week next month. Can anyone give names & addresses of MPs withing walking distance? Or best bets beyond walking distance.
Brothels are north of the Tay Ho-lake on Duong Loc Long Quan and adjacent streets. This area has quite a few expats and well to do tourists so price seems to be up to 400,000 dong. I had to pay before service but the girl did come thru with a fine performance. Big room and bed with shower.
Note: I agree with TJhooker report on Hanoi Viets in general. Watch your back.I know Loc Long Quan in Hanoi reasonably well - the big development called Ciputra is on it. But never saw anything that looked like a brothel on or near that road. What do they look like? What should we look out for?
I know the places near the Sheraton in Hanoi - such as the guesthouses on To Ngoc Van with the guys calling you in from the street but have never seen anything like that on Loc Long Quan.
Chocha Monger
03-17-09, 01:42
now, let us all pray for justice. u.k. thailand, cambodia, vietnam. next stop, hopefully, hell!
gary glitter held over child sex allegations
john aglionby, south-east asia correspondent
monday november 21, 2005
guardian
vietnamese police yesterday questioned the shamed rock star gary glitter for a second day over allegations he had sex with **** girls, following his detention on saturday at ho chi minh airport as he tried to flee to thailand.
glitter, 61, whose real name is paul francis gadd, is being held in the resort city of vung tau, where he has lived since march. he allegedly committed "obscene acts with a minor". detectives confirmed that the singer, who served two months in prison in britain in 1999 after being convicted of paedophilia, is still being held but declined to comment on whether he would be prosecuted.
the authorities decided to hold gadd after questioning a 15-year-old girl they found living in his home last week. the former singer had already fled by then, reportedly with a 14-year-old girl who described him as her husband.
the foreign office confirmed that a briton was being detained in vang tau, 50 miles from ho chi minh, but declined to identify the person. if prosecuted for consensual sex with a minor, gadd could face 12 years in prison.
child protection experts say vietnam is becoming increasingly popular with foreign paedophiles because neither the authorities nor the public have much experience of them.
"it's very easy for children to be exploited because society doesn't know a lot about sex tourism and so doesn't have the vigilance," said le hong loan, unicef's chief child protection expert in vietnam. the police also lacked expertise, she said. "they're not prepared to deal with the issue. they're also very cautious about dealing with foreigners."
paedophiles are moving away from traditional haunts such as pattaya in thailand and phnom penh in cambodia because of greater awareness there, according to christine beddoe of ecpat, a group campaigning to end child prostitution.
gadd was detained in cambodia in 2002 but was never prosecuted. he was forced to leave after an aggressive campaign by women's rights groups
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/gary-glitters-teenage-conquests-scrap-over-which-one-will-marry-him
I know Loc Long Quan in Hanoi reasonably well - the big development called Ciputra is on it. But never saw anything that looked like a brothel on or near that road. What do they look like? What should we look out for?
I know the places near the Sheraton in Hanoi - such as the guesthouses on To Ngoc Van with the guys calling you in from the street but have never seen anything like that on Loc Long Quan.Can you give us a little more info on the Loc Long Quan scene in Hanoi. My question about recognizing the brothels there was a genuine one.
Hanoisimpleman
03-26-09, 09:17
I know Loc Long Quan in Hanoi reasonably well - the big development called Ciputra is on it. But never saw anything that looked like a brothel on or near that road. What do they look like? What should we look out for?
I know the places near the Sheraton in Hanoi - such as the guesthouses on To Ngoc Van with the guys calling you in from the street but have never seen anything like that on Loc Long Quan.I think To Ngoc Van str (name of Vietnamese famous painter) is the right place. Price for full service now is up to 350K - 400K Vietnam VND. There is nothing on Lac Long Quan, pal.
Anyone fuck a girl out of 17 Saloon? I did the assistant manager last November. I walked in from Relax bar to have a beer. The place was crouded and there was no place to sit at the bar. I was about to return to relax when she grabbed me a found a place for me to sit. For this I bought her a drink and she picked up my mobile and called herself. Then she left, the drink came, and I waited.After 10min I picked up my phonr and textd her WTF? She texed back she was busy so I texed back and called her a B***h. I left and went back to Relax but she kept sms'ing me all night. At about 1:00am she called me and asked where I was. We met at my hotel ($50 surcharge) and she stayed the night. She told me the reason she called is that most westeners don't stand up to her and was supprised I did.
I went back right before Tet to visit. She talked for a while but was sitting with teo Viets and 4 bottles of JW blue. It's thier holiday so let that hane thier fun.
Anyone bank these Relax girls? They are about the stupidest bar girls known to man. I was in relax when this viet dude had them drinking shots till they passed out and puked on themselves. She would never talk to me after because i laughed at her and would never give her "lucky money"
I know Loc Long Quan in Hanoi reasonably well - the big development called Ciputra is on it. But never saw anything that looked like a brothel on or near that road. What do they look like? What should we look out for?
I know the places near the Sheraton in Hanoi - such as the guesthouses on To Ngoc Van with the guys calling you in from the street but have never seen anything like that on Loc Long Quan.Here ia a girl I pulled from a little massage place on 51 To Ngoc Van . They have a wooden sign on the sidewalk in front of the little alley. I checked her ID she is 18.
Here ia a girl I pulled from a little massage place on 51 To Ngoc Van . They have a wooden sign on the sidewalk in front of the little alley. I checked her ID she is 18.Excellent Pull Fornic8 and great pic, after I brightened it could see that tiny cutie with her chubby-cheeked face.
More please, I would like to know details, price, deal, activities, actions, quality, all details! And more pics of course.
JD
Explorerman
04-02-09, 03:15
Brothels are north of the Tay Ho-lake on Duong Loc Long Quan and adjacent streets. This area has quite a few expats and well to do tourists so price seems to be up to 400, 000 dong. I had to pay before service but the girl did come thru with a fine performance. Big room and bed with shower.
Note: I agree with TJhooker report on Hanoi Viets in general. Watch your back.It sounds like we are dismissing this report? I too drive by the Duong Loc Long Quan area regularly and have never seen anything there. But there are side streets and alleys off of it.
This is the street where they are building the Ciputra mall soon opposite, right?
I know about the places on To Ngoc Van. Usually not clean enough for my liking. I'd rather just get a massage and HJ in a clean place, than FS in someplace where I am not sure who else has been there multiple times before me on the same sheets.
It sounds like we are dismissing this report? I too drive by the Duong Loc Long Quan area regularly and have never seen anything there. But there are side streets and alleys off of it.
This is the street where they are building the Ciputra mall soon opposite, right?
I know about the places on To Ngoc Van. Usually not clean enough for my liking. I'd rather just get a massage and HJ in a clean place, than FS in someplace where I am not sure who else has been there multiple times before me on the same sheets.I am not positive but I think Cheapy may have the directions wrong, the brothels are not far from there but are on the other side of the lake, up near the Sheraton. I don't know of any places on LAC LONG QUAN, but around To Ngoc Van and that area they are obvious to anyone. Again, I am not sure, but don't know of any on LLQ and never heard of any there.
Johndao,
Thanks for the compliment, especially from a man of your stature in ISG. I was walking down 51 and all the touts from the hotels were trying to get me to "have a look" when I saw the sign on the sidewalk with the word massage in english. I went down the alley and in to find mamasan and two girls. This one was way to cute. Mamasan said 500, 000, whick I know is double, and I said OK. Got her in the room and we pushed the two massage beds together. The tables were just the right height for her to lay back and get fucked. She might be the perfect girl; tighest pussy I ever had and not a word of english. I fucked her about an hour with no complaints.
I left and was looking for a taxi when she can out to the street to talk to some of the tout boys. I had to have it again so I went over to talk to her. There was an expat resturant across the street with a big red sign and I looked over to see some patrons check me out talking to a really young looking 18 yo. We went back to the MP and this tims I gave mamasan 200, 000 for another round. I spent the next two hours fucking, ass fucking, throat fucking, and finished with an ass to mouth shot. Mamasan kicked me out at midnight.
I went back during TET but it was closed for the holiday. When I first fucked her she couldn't have been in P4P for more than a week. If she is still in the business she cannot be the same as when I abused her.
Sorry, no nore pictures, just some dark video that I cannot share.
Excellent Pull Fornic8 and great pic, after I brightened it could see that tiny cutie with her chubby-cheeked face.
More please, I would like to know details, price, deal, activities, actions, quality, all details! And more pics of course.
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Dragonfly22
04-03-09, 12:03
John, I stayed at the Sheraton awhile back and could find nothing nearby. I don't remember the names of the streets but I walked everywhere. Even as far as the overhead train. I managed one sleasy massage place at the top of the little hill just outside the hotel and it was horrid. The girl gave a bad massage and no extras. I did see one place further down on the main road but it look quite sordid with questionable characters lurking outside.
This January I was staying at the Hilton Opera house during TETand had a flight out of town Wednesday morning. I checked out and went out front to get a taxi. Shit, no taxis. First time I have ever seen that. The bell boy goes down the street and flags down a Hanoi Taxi. As it gets closer I notice a girl driving. I hop in the front seat, tell her the airport, and off we go. I an flirting with her a bit and reach over and rub her ear. At the first red light she leans over and gives me a DFK. I don't know what to do, I got a plane to catch in 2 hours and a hard-on. She is driving, I am rubbing het titties when no cars are beside us, and she says "want to go Boom-Boom? As soon as we cross the long bridge she pulls over at a hotel and says wait here. She goes inside and comes out 5min later with room keys and looks up the taxi. We get in the room and both strip. She is about 30 with a tattoo on her back. Probally a retired BG. I don't have much time so I just fuck her for 20min and we leave. Bank in the taxi I realize my flight departs in 1 hour but my taxi girl will only drive 40klms. I don't want to yell at her since I just fucked but she is making me late for my flight. We get to the airport and I pay her 500,000 for the ST and taxi fare. I then run inside to find the ticket counter closed. Went to the airline office and got rescheduled for the evening flight and cought a different taxi back to the Hilton. Told them what happened and they let me keep my room for the afternoon. I told the doorman to call and get the same taxi for 4 hours before my flight took off. When she arrived she was really suprised to see me. I told her I wanted her again so I changed my flight. We stapped at the same ST hotel and this time we has two hours of BBBJ, DITY, Mish, and CG. I gave her another 500, 000 at the airport.
If you need a ride to the airport, she was Hanoi Taxi #43.
This January I was staying at the Hilton Opera house during TETand had a flight out of town Wednesday morning. I checked out and went out front to get a taxi. Shit, no taxis. First time I have ever seen that. The bell boy goes down the street and flags down a Hanoi Taxi. As it gets closer I notice a girl driving. I hop in the front seat, tell her the airport, and off we go. I an flirting with her a bit and reach over and rub her ear. At the first red light she leans over and gives me a DFK. I don't know what to do, I got a plane to catch in 2 hours and a hard-on. She is driving, I am rubbing het titties when no cars are beside us, and she says "want to go Boom-Boom? As soon as we cross the long bridge she pulls over at a hotel and says wait here. She goes inside and comes out 5min later with room keys and looks up the taxi. We get in the room and both strip. She is about 30 with a tattoo on her back. Probally a retired BG. I don't have much time so I just fuck her for 20min and we leave. Bank in the taxi I realize my flight departs in 1 hour but my taxi girl will only drive 40klms. I don't want to yell at her since I just fucked but she is making me late for my flight. We get to the airport and I pay her 500,000 for the ST and taxi fare. I then run inside to find the ticket counter closed. Went to the airline office and got rescheduled for the evening flight and cought a different taxi back to the Hilton. Told them what happened and they let me keep my room for the afternoon. I told the doorman to call and get the same taxi for 4 hours before my flight took off. When she arrived she was really suprised to see me. I told her I wanted her again so I changed my flight. We stapped at the same ST hotel and this time we has two hours of BBBJ, DITY, Mish, and CG. I gave her another 500, 000 at the airport.
If you need a ride to the airport, she was Hanoi Taxi #43.
Thanks for the great story and info!
Explorerman
04-07-09, 04:44
I am not positive but I think Cheapy may have the directions wrong, the brothels are not far from there but are on the other side of the lake, up near the Sheraton. I don't know of any places on LAC LONG QUAN, but around To Ngoc Van and that area they are obvious to anyone. Again, I am not sure, but don't know of any on LLQ and never heard of any there.Hey Johndao,
Yes, I went by that area over the weekend, and drove back to where the ferris wheel etc are, and still see nothing. I assume he meant the well known area up from the Sheraton (two streets up, to the left for the unknowing.).
Dragonfly
There is a MP about 300 meters to the right of the little road that is the Sheraton entrance, on the side road next to the main road. It may be what you saw, as there tends to be people outside. Never had a problem with them. Sauna etc inside is fine. It is purely massage plus, though if you are nice to the reception people, they may offer you something more for a ST, off-site.
Johndao,
Thanks for the compliment, especially from a man of your stature in ISG. I was walking down 51 and all the touts from the hotels were trying to get me to "have a look" when I saw the sign on the sidewalk with the word massage in english. I went down the alley and in to find mamasan and two girls. This one was way to cute. Mamasan said 500, 000, whick I know is double, and I said OK. Got her in the room and we pushed the two massage beds together. The tables were just the right height for her to lay back and get fucked. She might be the perfect girl; tighest pussy I ever had and not a word of english. I fucked her about an hour with no complaints.
I left and was looking for a taxi when she can out to the street to talk to some of the tout boys. I had to have it again so I went over to talk to her. There was an expat resturant across the street with a big red sign and I looked over to see some patrons check me out talking to a really young looking 18 yo. We went back to the MP and this tims I gave mamasan 200, 000 for another round. I spent the next two hours fucking, ass fucking, throat fucking, and finished with an ass to mouth shot. Mamasan kicked me out at midnight.
I went back during TET but it was closed for the holiday. When I first fucked her she couldn't have been in P4P for more than a week. If she is still in the business she cannot be the same as when I abused her.
Sorry, no more pictures, just some dark video that I cannot share.Thanks for the story and the details Fornic, it got me hot!
Of course you can post parts of the video, I do it all the time. First you need to get vidcaps of the best frames and save them. Then brighten them up a bit and post them as .jpg files. If your face is is any of them, it's easy to blur it in vidcaps. See my recent many, many vidcaps of Nguyet, made as vidcaps. Vidcaps give some of the best shots, the best images. I for one would love to see more of that tiny cutie from 51.
JD
Mean Angel
04-09-09, 14:20
Brothers of the prowl,
I wanted to share with you a recent excellent experience at the Fortuna hotel. I was staying there around a month ago (and as it happens aware of the draw of the Boss Niteclub in the basement) but coincidentaly one of the people I was there to meet on business had arranged our evening meal to take place in the Japanese eatery on the second floor there.
I was running a little bit late and when I arrived I was first slightly puzzled, but then secretly thrilled to see that each of the guests at the table was sitting with an empty seat in between each of them.
Of course I played it coy right up until the moment when the first drinks arrived, followed by a mamasan and around 40 girls.
"I thought we shoud improve the view", says my host. It was relatively early (7pm) so I think we were seeing the cream of the crop. All above 7 with quite a few 9's and possibly the odd 10. To be honest it was a little hard to remeber. I was experiencing sensory overload! The girls just kept just pouring through the door until the entire circumference of the room was packed with them.
Just time for a quick "good evening boss" in unison before the host says "you have first pick".
"shit" I honestly didn't know were to start. "who speaks english" says I. Good thinking. Narrow the field, buy time.
Hands went up and then my usual KTV dilema. Maybe its just my luck but each time I choose the most vampish looking girl (big tits best body) she always seems to be the worst experience due to a poor attitude. I am sure there are also some good rational arguments why this should be but anyway. Not tonight I think, so I passed over a few absolute goddesses and chose #169 who just had a certain look about her.
Lyn (or lin? ) from Cambodia. Anyway guys, the real thrust of this post is SEEK HER OUT if you ever get to the fortuna.
She was a blast, lots of fun, liked to drink and talk. I know she is paid to do it but so were some of the other girls chosen who could hardly keep the false smile on their faces for more than a few seconds.
Needless to say number #169 accompanied me to my room for an overnighter. I won't bore you with every detail but the key KPI's were as follows.
face 8
body 8
gfe 10
attitude 10
4 pops during the night
DFK
Deep throat/great blow job
Did a good job of convincing me she was enjoying it (rubbed herself furiously when getting banged from behind) but then teh icing on the cake... during one session I dared to slip a finger in the old rusty bayonet wound and she responded by bucking on my finger. 'Ah' thinks I. A few seconds later I was balls deep in the batty passage (missonary style) and while I pumped the starfish lin rubbed her bean like an olympic bean flicker. What a sight.
A Mongering Jewel.
Had a another go in the morning.
it is $100 for an overnighter there and I ended up giving her another $40 simply because she was one of the best at her trade I have ever encountered and I believe she should be encouraged to continue delivering that level of service. So yes Brothers, that $40 was for you to.
Only issue with the whole night - forgot to get her mobile number so if one of you gets to her before I do again please get her number and pass it on to me.
Like I said Lin #169...a mongering Jewel!
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Mean
Asian Lover Oz
04-19-09, 03:20
Only had 1 night in Hanoi and as my potential freebies were going to be too much hard work and probably not lead anywhere (as I have a habit of meeting nice girls rather than naughty girls), with the limited time I had, I decided once again I would have to pay a bit more for some local assistance.
I had some places in mind from the forum and could have just taken taxis there, but I met a young guy near the big roundabout at the old quarter who spoke excellent English so I told him I wanted him to show me around for a few hours and help smooth things along.
He told me of the various options from massage with limited choices, through to the very expensive clubs. Now before we left we agreed on his fee of 150K for "a few hours" and I would just pay for taxis. He told me to expect prices of 500K to 1M depending on where we went. I knew it was inflated, but what to do ?
We first headed out to Vung St, taxi fare was around 70K from the old quarter, but the traffic on Sat night meant the journey was quite long at around 40mins. Took a stroll along the street and was welcomed into most places to view the goods. Most were average but I did see one knockout and made a mental note of the shop. After walking around for 20 or 30 mins I decided the knockout was the only sensible choice, so headed back to the shop. Of course she was taken by now, so the boss said come back in 20 mins. Another lap up and down and still nothing could compare to her, so went back and luckily she was now free.
Now for the price negotations. 680K !! Extortion, but I had no bargaining power so reluctantly paid out the cash. The girl leads me to the back room and as we eneter I realise it's not an individual room, but once again the room with massage tables each divided by a thin curtain that goes 3/4 of the way to the ceiling. She takes me to the last cubicle in the dark room and, the vinyl table is still littered with hand towels and remnants of prior customers.
I look at the gorgeous girl in front of me, see her innocent but sexy look, think too much about the situation and a wave of depression sweeps over me. What the hell am I doing in this hell hole of a place, I'm not a Vietnamese factory worker. I tell her I'm sorry and that I can't do it, so leave and explain the situation to my guide. I had figured my 680K was gone, but to my surprise I got it back (well minus 80K for causing trouble). I tell him it's a disgusting place and I can't do it unless I have my own room. We then scour the nearby knock shops looking for a room. Up and down the narrow stairs we go into all the nearby brothels but they are all setup the same way. In a few shops as I go up to the 3rd of 4th floor I pass by Viet guys getting serviced and as the partitions have no roof you can see straight in to all the action, but of course I tried not to look :-). In the end no room can be found and just wanted to get out of there.
Back in a taxi and heading out of that slum and I really just want to go home. My guide (Lin) suggests we try a more classy place guaranteed to have separate rooms. I have no idea where we went, but it was a long trip (seemed to be on the same road towards the airport). Eventually we arrive and go into a nice looking multi storey house with the Viet mafia sitting around on the bikes outside. My interest is severely waned by this point and they show me 4 or 5 girls that didn't do it for me.
Outside we go and straight into the next house. Similar setup, I ended up choosing a 24yo who gave off a positive vibe in the intro. Price had increased by now to 880K, but once again I was a captive customer so had to agree.
Half decent room with shower and bed and so we start our business transaction. Body is ok and things start off well, until I ask for BJ. She refuses and says it costs more. BANG ! I totally lose it and just start getting dressed willing to walk away and get the hell back to my hotel. She wonders what is wrong and I try to tell her I'm sick of being ripped off. She doesn't comprehend until I start my ABBA interpretation and break into "Money, Money, Money". I was almost dressed when she said, ok she wont ask for money. By this time I'm not in the mood and should have just walked. But since I had already invested into this stock, now wasn't the time to sell out. I laid back on the bed expecting her to start with BJ, but once again she said BJ is extra. Ok, ok... 100K just start sucking will you.
Pathetic BJ so decided she was ripe for some half decent fucking, but my mind was elsewhere and it was struggle to do anything with her.
Cleaned up and stormed out of the place, get me outa here please. Of course, but not until you have paid the cleaning fee of 150K !! No fuking way !! Lot's of carrying on and my guide comes in and pays it. I was pissed and told him off, don't pay it, they already ripped me, plus had to tip the girl etc.
Very heated argument ensued but I was in the middle of god knows where and it was around 11pm surrounded by dodgy characters. Back in the taxi and my blood is boiling, what a totally crap experience.
Lin starts talking about how's it normal to pay this and that and that I paid the same price as local etc. I screamed at him "Shut the fuck up" or you won't be getting paid. He then started about how he has worked for 3 hours for nothing as he paid the cleaning fee for me etc. Eventually back to the lake and I hand him my wallet, here you go, take it all !! Take the credit card, take all the cash, take my phone, take it all !! By that time my wallet was basically empty of VND and had around $10 is various foreign currencies. He handed it back and said he was honest and I didn't get ripped out etc. I gave hime all the foreign currency and sulked home alone through the darkened streets of Hanoi thinking even a date with a "nice girl" and no action would have been a better choice after all.
The next day I left Vietnam, astounded that for a very experience monger like me, it was so difficult to enjoy the punt here. If you are here longer term it should be easy to meet some nice local girls without all the hassles of P4P here.
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Mash Potatoes
04-19-09, 04:56
Mate!
Good report, pity about the outcomes.
Thanks for sharing.
Mash
Bartchamdo
04-19-09, 19:50
Asian Lover Oz,
I completely understand your frustration. I've been going through the same sort of problems with hot tocs and massage places in HCMC and Nha Trang. I just keep feeling cheated and fed bullshit the whole time, so I keep walking out of sessions before they are finished.
Before I visited Vietnam I kept hearing about how skilled the local women were, and that seemed to be true. I kept thinking that Vietnam would be BJ heaven. But now that I'm here I just have nonstop disappointments. Why should I pay a Vietnamese lady extra for a totally crappy experience? The rooms are filthy, the service is usually horrible, and the language barrier is a big problem.
Perhaps if I spoke fluent Vietnamese these obstacles could be overcome. I'd be willing to pay more for good service at my hotel. But I'm not willing to pay for half assed service in a dirty cubicle.
On a side note, does anyone know how to say the Vietnamese word for "cum"? How do I say "No cum, no pay"?
Bartchamdo
Hi guys, at the end of May I will find myself in Hanoi for a week, on business, I have read the past 8 pages looking for hotel pointers, but found no real serious indicators.
What I want is a hotel that is girl friendly, that if possible even has girls in the bar on site, as I think each night I will be busy till quite late so need to quickly find a suitable girl for the night, and fast.
So you more experienced visitors please give me some pointers for hotels and what to aim for, and I promiss to return the favour if any of you find yourself in Ukraine...
Thanks
Q
Has anyone stayed at the Daewoo hotel recently?
If yes, can you take a girl from the Daewoo hotel club back to your room?
It used to be no problem, until some time ago when a new GM came in.
If things have changed, thanks to let me know.
Do you recall her name?
Hanoi Taxi #43 is operated by a male driver, so perhaps it was a different number?
This January I was staying at the Hilton Opera house during TETand had a flight out of town Wednesday morning. I checked out and went out front to get a taxi. Shit, no taxis. First time I have ever seen that. The bell boy goes down the street and flags down a Hanoi Taxi. As it gets closer I notice a girl driving. I hop in the front seat, tell her the airport, and off we go. I an flirting with her a bit and reach over and rub her ear. At the first red light she leans over and gives me a DFK. I don't know what to do, I got a plane to catch in 2 hours and a hard-on. She is driving, I am rubbing het titties when no cars are beside us, and she says "want to go Boom-Boom? As soon as we cross the long bridge she pulls over at a hotel and says wait here. She goes inside and comes out 5min later with room keys and looks up the taxi. We get in the room and both strip. She is about 30 with a tattoo on her back. Probally a retired BG. I don't have much time so I just fuck her for 20min and we leave. Bank in the taxi I realize my flight departs in 1 hour but my taxi girl will only drive 40klms. I don't want to yell at her since I just fucked but she is making me late for my flight. We get to the airport and I pay her 500,000 for the ST and taxi fare. I then run inside to find the ticket counter closed. Went to the airline office and got rescheduled for the evening flight and cought a different taxi back to the Hilton. Told them what happened and they let me keep my room for the afternoon. I told the doorman to call and get the same taxi for 4 hours before my flight took off. When she arrived she was really suprised to see me. I told her I wanted her again so I changed my flight. We stapped at the same ST hotel and this time we has two hours of BBBJ, DITY, Mish, and CG. I gave her another 500, 000 at the airport.
If you need a ride to the airport, she was Hanoi Taxi #43.
Do you recall her name?
Hanoi Taxi #43 is operated by a male driver, so perhaps it was a different number?I think Hanoi Taxi #43 was operated by this woman just at the time Fornic met her and then was operated by another driver on another shift, a male.
Explorerman
04-22-09, 04:19
Hi guys, at the end of May I will find myself in Hanoi for a week, on business, I have read the past 8 pages looking for hotel pointers, but found no real serious indicators.
What I want is a hotel that is girl friendly, that if possible even has girls in the bar on site, as I think each night I will be busy till quite late so need to quickly find a suitable girl for the night, and fast.
So you more experienced visitors please give me some pointers for hotels and what to aim for, and I promiss to return the favour if any of you find yourself in Ukraine...
Thanks
Q
Fortuna Hotel. Go to the "search this thread" button on the upper right corner, and you will get lots of info if you put in that name.
Fortuna Hotel. Go to the "search this thread" button on the upper right corner, and you will get lots of info if you put in that name.
Thanks..... is that the only one?
Do you recall her name?
Hanoi Taxi #43 is operated by a male driver, so perhaps it was a different number?Pretty sure it was #43; a sedan and not one of the minivans.
Remember this was during TET so the regular driver probally took time off. She drove slow as hell and made me miss my flight so she might not be a regular taxi driver.
Hanoi taxis usually have a home base so a lot of them stage at the Hilton Opera. Stop by and ask the doorman if he knows her. Hell, he probally remembers me; the crazy foriegner that took two taxis with same driver to the airport on the same day.
If you do get a girl taxi, ask her if she has a tattoo on her back. She was about 30, cute, with dyed brown/blond hair.
On another note, reading a lot of roports here about mongers dumping a lot of bucks here for a bad experience. Try 17 Saloon or Relax (now at the Relax 2 site) for a girl who is used to dealing with foriegners.
Explorerman
04-24-09, 04:55
I think Hanoi Taxi #43 was operated by this woman just at the time Fornic met her and then was operated by another driver on another shift, a male.
Good point!
That was a morning shift, I believe, and until late afternoon....
Member #3423
04-26-09, 11:44
Hey,
I just checked the MP opposite the HILTON. 3 to 4 Girls present. Mamasan not very kind. Massage for 10 US/60 Min. Not good performed, no possibility to convince the Lady on a BJ or Fuck. So I choosed the HJ, which wasnt good either. Tipped her 10 US for such bad work and the begging begun. I went out and never in again.
Relax Bar is closed for construction works, this evening I will check 17 Saloon.
Motobike Girls still around Opera, some good looking, but I let them pass.
Update will follow.
All the Relax girls are at the Relax 2 bar. This one is bigger and nicer.
Hey,
I just checked the MP opposite the HILTON. 3 to 4 Girls present. Mamasan not very kind. Massage for 10 US/60 Min. Not good performed, no possibility to convince the Lady on a BJ or Fuck. So I choosed the HJ, which wasnt good either. Tipped her 10 US for such bad work and the begging begun. I went out and never in again.
Relax Bar is closed for construction works, this evening I will check 17 Saloon.
Motobike Girls still around Opera, some good looking, but I let them pass.
Update will follow.
Bartchamdo
04-28-09, 05:07
I tried to find the cat toc where the famous Phung works. I went to Nguyen Binh Khiem and saw several places that looked like possibilities. I went into 15 Nguyen Binh Khiem, which is right next door to a cafe, and asked about Phung. Was told she no longer works there. Wasn't sure if I had the wrong place, or perhaps she was just off for the day. Is 15 the correct street number?
Member #3423
04-28-09, 17:22
Hey,
was to 17 Saloon. Many good looking Girls there, really good music. No action or freelancers encountered.
Picked up a Motobike Girl and managed to bring her to my room in the HILTON. Was a little hectic, due to the fact, that she has to give her ID to the reception and I has to sign for, but no problem afterwards. Nice shower and fucking.
Cheers!
Hey,
I just checked the MP opposite the HILTON. 3 to 4 Girls present. Mamasan not very kind. Massage for 10 US/60 Min. Not good performed, no possibility to convince the Lady on a BJ or Fuck. So I choosed the HJ, which wasnt good either. Tipped her 10 US for such bad work and the begging begun. I went out and never in again.
Relax Bar is closed for construction works, this evening I will check 17 Saloon.
Motobike Girls still around Opera, some good looking, but I let them pass.
Update will follow.$10 or about 180,000 Dong is a fabulously high tip for what you call 'such bad work' on a handjob. Even for a good massage and handjob that would be 80,000 Dong too much. Now the girl has learned the following: Give a bad massage, give a bad handjob, get a very high tip. Actually she probably did not learn it at this time, but merely had her experience reinforced; minimal service for maximum pay. No wonder so many people complain of their awful experiences in VN.
Member #3423
04-29-09, 08:20
@JD
Yeah, could be too much, but its hard to walk away without giving anything and the 5US I wanted to give she refuses and called mamasan. But next time I try to resist ;-)
Update on Hanoi-Taxi (HILTON):
I drove with Taxi Nr. 46, which was droven by a Girl named Thé. She looked nice. Unfortunatly I didnt had time to ask her about "extra service", maybe this was the Girl from Taxi Nr. 43 before.
Cheers!
Jane Ganeman
05-01-09, 13:20
@Fornic8:
Where is Relax 2? I asked at my hotel front desk - they sent the taxi driver to Relax (which is, as noted earlier, closed)
@Fornic8:
Where is Relax 2? I asked at my hotel front desk - they sent the taxi driver to Relax (which is, as noted earlier, closed)It is on Quang Trung Street (not sure about the spelling); you cross Ly Truong Kiet and Trang Hung Dao, walking against the traffic. Why you would want to go there for mongering reasons beats me - even the old Relax bar was just a bunch of ladies who, if you bought them regular drinks, would sit sulking with you for a while.
Jane Ganeman
05-09-09, 06:53
It is on Quang Trung Street (not sure about the spelling); you cross Ly Truong Kiet and Trang Hung Dao, walking against the traffic. Why you would want to go there for mongering reasons beats me - even the old Relax bar was just a bunch of ladies who, if you bought them regular drinks, would sit sulking with you for a while.Oh OK - I was just interested in something perhaps a bit more interesting than the Fortuna scene. Fortuna is a bit mercenary, I think.
I was looking for something more of a bar atmosphere.
Oh OK - I was just interested in something perhaps a bit more interesting than the Fortuna scene. Fortuna is a bit mercenary, I think.
I was looking for something more of a bar atmosphere.Sorry to disappoint you but there is really nothing like the bar with girls scene in Hanoi that you find in various forms in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia. There used to be a freelancer scene in the Titanic (the boat on the river that is now called Solace) and the old New Century disco but both are long gone.
I have heard that the bar that used to be called the Phuc Tan bar, later known as the Barracuda (beside the Red River), was reopening and there was a freelancer scene there but have not seen it myself. I also think that there may be something to be found at the new disco that is opening up beside Solace but again have not seen it (I have not been to Hanoi for over 6 months). But I would not be getting my hopes up about either of these two places. The actions of the authorities means that mongering is either a brothel activity (sometimes with a massage parlour or hairdressor cover) or some controlled scene like Fortuna with a little intermittant street activity. The idea is to keep it out of sight. The tastes of the locals is not for such open activity either. They prefer to be hidden away in a brothel or a karaoke. And the girls go where they are least likely to he harrassed by the authorities. So very few bar girls that will really interact with you and go home with you too.
Sorry to disappoint you but there is really nothing like the bar with girls scene in Hanoi that you find in various forms in Thailand, Laos and Cambodia. There used to be a freelancer scene in the Titanic (the boat on the river that is now called Solace) and the old New Century disco but both are long gone.
I have heard that the bar that used to be called the Phuc Tan bar, later known as the Barracuda (beside the Red River), was reopening and there was a freelancer scene there but have not seen it myself. I also think that there may be something to be found at the new disco that is opening up beside Solace but again have not seen it (I have not been to Hanoi for over 6 months). But I would not be getting my hopes up about either of these two places. The actions of the authorities means that mongering is either a brothel activity (sometimes with a massage parlour or hairdressor cover) or some controlled scene like Fortuna with a little intermittant street activity. The idea is to keep it out of sight. The tastes of the locals is not for such open activity either. They prefer to be hidden away in a brothel or a karaoke. And the girls go where they are least likely to he harrassed by the authorities. So very few bar girls that will really interact with you and go home with you too.Yes, Simian has got it quite right, VN one of the worst places in Asia for the above activities. Freelancers not allowed, because, well, who gets money from that? The girls! That's not the idea here in VN where the idea is the girl gets the least and last money. That's why the only good freelancers are deep under cover, by call, by appointment only.
There seems to be lots of disappointed people writing about their massage experiences.
Maybe its best just to stick with Hoa Binh.
I can confirm that you do get HJ at Hoa Binh hotel (well my girl did). On my earlier post (a few months ago) I had only looked inside, but since then i have tried it out.
I also rubbed her pussy, saying that without that your arm is gonna fall off cos it will take me forever to come. I get away with this trick most places.
Another tip is only have 80 or 100,000 in your pocket. So late in the massage when she starts to get closer to your meat and 2 veg, and suggests something extra you can say - well this is all i've got. Everytime for me the Viet girls have gone ahead. If they don't I might still tip up to 50k for a good massage - but they don't know that so they usually jack me off - in Vung Tau and other cities you can get away with extra for 50k but I dont think theyll accept that in Hanoi.
The golden rule to avoid disapointment when you go to any massage place is DO NOT pay at the desk unless you have walked into the back/upstaairs and checked out the room AND I also now ask to see the girl who i will get - or if the chicks are sat in reception at least make eye contact with one so its clear who you want.
If you dont do this you may end up getting:
1) A room with several beds with curtain dividers or sometimes not seperation.
2) A recliner massage chair rather than a flat bed.
3) The oldest ugliest chick in VN
Also, I normally go for the cheap massage place (50 - 80,000 VND) so that if nothing extra is offered or her massage sucks you don't feel so cheated.
Like some other previous posters, I have a habit of walking out after 10 mins if she wants to do a dirty deed after only a few mins. or she doesn't know what she's doing (you will know because she just starts slapping you) - this happens a lot in Cambodia but the Viets are usually better.
I have yet to find these low prices in Hanoi but they must exist a bit further out of the city centre where rents are lower. Please advise.
Oh, and I went past 33 Thai Phien St. (mentioned in previous posts) the other day and there were 3 good looking massage type chicks sat at the 'cafe bar' so I'm gonna check this out soon.
I tried to post my third and final report on VN a few months ago. But I got timed out and lost the lot. I was very unhappy about that. Is there still a 30 min. Limit? I think it needs changing.
Anyway I called the post The Golden (fluffy) Triangle and it covered Halong/Cat Ba. Haiphong. Hanoi. There was lots of fun to be had out there at much better prices. Its only a couple of hours away on the coach.
And if you go back to an earlier post you will find a place with FS for 150, 000 with beauties. I don't want to say too much because it will Get ruined by foreigners. I have never seen one there and have been several times.
I tried to post my third and final report on VN a few months ago. But I got timed out and lost the lot. I was very unhappy about that. Is there still a 30 min. Limit? I think it needs changing.Hi Tjhooker,
I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but with all due respect, this message about members being timed-out is posted both ABOVE and BELOW the screen where members add new reports:
PLEASE DON'T LOSE YOUR LONG REPORTS!
This screen times out after 30 minutes. Please save long reports to your clipboard BEFORE you submit them. To save your report: Select the text, then select "CTRL+C".Thanks,
Jackson
Steet walkers / Motobike girls Hanoi :
This scene certainly does exist. There were up to 20 gorgeous chicks around 10 -11 pm the other night.
How to find it:
From the traveller/tourist ghetto (just north of Hoan kiem lake) you need to head east for a hundred yards or so, to the main North-South dual-highway. Do not go onto the elevated main highway, there is a road that runs beside it, and you need to go South.
Keep going for about 2 or 3 kms and look out on the left (across the highway) for the Valentine Hotel with red neon writing and a heart - best seen at night obviously. As you approach this there is a petrol station on the left hand side. Across from that is where all the girls stay. Also the adjacent road has moto girls dotted along it (it is a one way road, so you travel the other way first and then turn around to get onto it). There is also a small grassed park area with some girls there who will call out to you.
I had already had a massage so wasn't that interested - I was just checking out places. One girl drove up beside me. She said 40 bucks I said no, so she said how much can you pay?
This means she will take 20 maybe even 15 (most Viets double prices of everything).
I don't know if this was ST or LT price - but i'd guess ST.
Warning - lots of the girls looked only a day over 18 years (if that). I don't know if there is police/bribe set ups going on in VN, but with these girls I could imagine it happening when a tourist/foreigner is involved. You will never get one of these girls back to a normal hotel.
For expats - no problem back to own place.
For tourists - I can only suggest prebooking into a crappy and seedy hotel - there are some across from this area and giving reception a tip to keep them happy. Then get the girl. Thats gonna cost you about 10 bucks on top.
The girl I chatted to said we could go to a short time hotel she knew but that smelt like trouble to me.
She said she had no ID (meaning could be an age issue and also no come-back if she robs you).
If you do this in a taxi I recommend approaching on the adjacent street, pulling over and let the taxi driver do the talking (making it clear to him 15 - 20 max so he doesnt get a cut too). I would also try to avoid standing out looking like a foriegner - there are lots of local guys hanging around too (police, pimps?? not sure) so you wouldn't want to draw attention.
Massage - new place - From the hooker hang out turn LEFT across the main highway. Then go South on the lane which is right next to the highway (can go both directions on this lane). Soon you get to So 7-A12 Dam Trau tel. 049845006 (but no english spoken). 80,000VND upfront fee for 1 hour (he wanted 100 but i pointed to price on the sign and said NO). I asked to see the room (and hopefully the girls at same time) but guy said No. I took a chance and paid. Room is OK and private (well - the usual partial see through glass door). Girl comes in room - about a 6 - bit fat but OK. I go for shower come and come out, she takes off towel and starts drying me off all over which was nice. However, she couldn't massage - too much slapping and her long nails annoyed me. She also said after 5 mins HJ or boom - boom. This was too fast for me so I said just continue the massage/torture! Well, after an unsatisfying massage (but with lots of fondling) she asks me for HJ. I say how much. She types 10 usd in phone and I say 5 (90,000). She's not happy so I start getting dressed. She caves in and i get the 90,000 price (works everytime). Due to the fact she's not a looker and i'm pissed about the massage it isn't really working for me so I start to fondle her too. But for some reason she panicks and stops me so I end up finishing myself off.
On the way out I realise that when you look up from the reception desk you can see the chicks. There were 4 and they weren't much better than the lady I had. But another day there maybe different chicks.
Travelling back up the lane I had a bike of 3 girls stop beside me, one looked like the mamasan - quoted 600,000VND though. There seems to be action on this lane too.
Massage - 33 Thai Phien St. - right across from Vincom towers (walk out of Vincom and its the road on the left)
Went to this 'cafe' for a beer. Boss / mamasan said massage? I say how much. She says 200,000, so i just finish my beer. Girls look OK and dress provocatively to lure in people from the street.
Solace - at long last I found the place. Taxi drivers will know it, but if you want to find it yourself you drive south on the same road as before from Hoan Kiem. Look out for a large 20-30 storey building on the left under construction (it has blue protective film on all the windows at the moment). When you get to it turn LEFT and go across the main highway and you will be on choung doung do street. Go straight down this lane until you get to the river. At 9 pm there was no one there but maybe it gets better later.
Other massage places - I would be interested to know more 50-80,000 VND massage places - with some decent chicks. At this price they will be out of the centre but thats OK for me.
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i get the impression that this (hanoi) site is frequented only by tourists and wealthy viet kieus, who only post about top end massage places. so i continue to trawl the less beaten parts of hanoi
[i note that i keep reading of very cheap fs to be found in hcmc off street/moto girls for 150, 000. and i would have thought hanoi must be cheaper or the same price? but yet to find such action]
i found a street with lots of massage places and probably brothels too, in what seems a seedy location. massages could be found for 80, 000. i went to one place. excellent massage. no hj offered but i didn't ask. i think the girl knew i wasn't happy that the lights in the corridor were turned off towards the end and the other girls and male staff were peeking in, which annoyed me. however, i got my phone out to try and explain i am coming tomorrow for the 90 min, 110, 000 vnd massage and she plugged her number into my phone. so i'll see what happens there. pity i don't know the lingo because i'd really like a massage in my own place off this gal. sauna time seems to be included in massage time, so you could skip that. i spotted two other girls as i left, and they were beauties too.
address is pho vung or pho voung st (maybe this has already been posted before. not sure).
directions: from train station on le duan street head south, you have to go past the dusty road works. go up over the elevated road which then comes back down. a further 1-2 km, look out for the large wide building on the left hand side. you need to turn left across the highway and go north a little bit. its the second or third street on right. it is not a sharp right, rather a fork off the main road. as soon as you come off le duan st, the places are on both sides of the street.
i'd estimate the place is 5 kms south of train station.
any other 70,000. 80,000 places anyone knows of? i keep asking but no response! maybe even 50k. which is what i pay in vung tau.
Thanh Nguyen
06-03-09, 12:00
i get the impression that this (hanoi) site is frequented only by tourists and wealthy viet kieus, who only post about top end massage places. so i continue to trawl the less beaten parts of hanoi
[i note that i keep reading of very cheap fs to be found in hcmc off street/moto girls for 150, 000. and i would have thought hanoi must be cheaper or the same price? but yet to find such action]
i found a street with lots of massage places and probably brothels too, in what seems a seedy location. massages could be found for 80, 000. i went to one place. excellent massage. no hj offered but i didn't ask. i think the girl knew i wasn't happy that the lights in the corridor were turned off towards the end and the other girls and male staff were peeking in, which annoyed me. however, i got my phone out to try and explain i am coming tomorrow for the 90 min, 110, 000 vnd massage and she plugged her number into my phone. so i'll see what happens there. pity i don't know the lingo because i'd really like a massage in my own place off this gal. sauna time seems to be included in massage time, so you could skip that. i spotted two other girls as i left, and they were beauties too.
address is pho vung or pho voung st (maybe this has already been posted before. not sure).
directions: from train station on le duan street head south, you have to go past the dusty road works. go up over the elevated road which then comes back down. a further 1-2 km, look out for the large wide building on the left hand side. you need to turn left across the highway and go north a little bit. its the second or third street on right. it is not a sharp right, rather a fork off the main road. as soon as you come off le duan st, the places are on both sides of the street.
i'd estimate the place is 5 kms south of train station.
any other 70,000. 80,000 places anyone knows of? i keep asking but no response! maybe even 50k. which is what i pay in vung tau.the name of that street is "phố vọng", it's near at giải phóng road. pm me if you need local sex guider ;-)
I just wanted to correct my previous post. There is nothing more annoying than poor or incorrect directions. I like to give directions from a starting place everyone knows (maybe there are maps of Hanoi, but without an index, finding a street is like trying to find a bald pussy in this city! )
Address is Pho Vung or Pho Voung St (maybe this has already been posted before. Not sure).
Directions: from train station on le Duan street head south, you have to go past the dusty road works. Go up over the elevated road which then comes back down. A further (500 M), look out for the large wide building on the left hand side (AGRIBANK). You need to turn left across the highway and go north a little bit. Its the (FIRST ST) on the right. It is not a sharp right, rather a fork off the main road. As soon as you come off le Duan St, the places are on both sides of the street.
I went there again and had the best massage experience EVER. OK, she wasnt great at the actual massage but she made up by teasing, cuddling, giggling and the final half hour was both of us sat opposite each other on the massage bed, feeling each other up including lots of baby oil and her fingers going somewhere I am not used to! Her panties/shorts came to one side very easily (usually its a nightmare in these places) and we rubbed each other off. She wasn't shy about me looking either.
She didn't speak a word of English which meant I avoided the price of extras issue. I just kept smiling and she probably kept going because she liked me, or, she expected a foreigner to pay big money. Anyway, on the way out I gave her 120, 000 (more than the usual 100, 000 maximum I pay, but she was worth every dong). She grumbled a little. How much do these girls get off locals?
I mean, I paid 230, 000 altogether for the 90 min massage plus tip and for 150, 000 across at DS I can get FS of a stunner.
(would advise 60 min at 80, 000 is enough) Interesting previous post from the local 'sex guide'. I don't mean to be rude but what would you expect for your services (by the way I don't swing both ways! ), because I've never been offered something for nothing by a Viet. If you know of places with cheaper massages / motogirls / mongering or 'freebie' pick-up locations, etc. Then why don't you just share it here with us?
There is only one nightclub for westerners**. Solace. It's on a boat so is not affected by the early closing 'laws'.
Very little or no chance to meet a freebie/working girl. Girls come here with their boyfriends or in impenitrable groups. I saw one guy send a couple of drinks to a single girl across the bar only for her Vietnam BF to walk in later. After exchanged words between them (probably her telling the bf she could make a bit of money here) he dragged her out. Yes, I'm pretty sure BFs pimp there girls around here. Just go to DS to see it happening.
The one other place that stays open late is Lighthouse bar. If you can find the place. Viets might know it as Phun Tac bar. Down the same road as Solace but turn left before the river. The only times I went here there was no one else! Perhaps it starts getting going after 1/2 am?
**I say westerners, because in all major Vietnam cities you also find these high class bars with fancy interior decor and prices to go with it. You soon know when you've walked into these places because you will have a swarm of waiters / waitresses asking you for your order and probably bringing you a plate of fruit too. I avoid these, and if any freelancer can afford the prices then it means you are not in for a cheap lay.
Old quarter bars shut anytime from 10.30pm until 1pm depending on number of customers. They should close around 11pm I think, and I have seen police patrols coming in the bars.
Better to try your luck in HCMC/Nha Trang.
I wouldn't say freelancers in bars are any better or cleaner than motogirls/massage girls so check out earlier posts on how to find action.
There is only one nightclub for westerners**. Solace. It's on a boat so is not affected by the early closing 'laws'.
Very little or no chance to meet a freebie/working girl. Girls come here with their boyfriends or in impenitrable groups. I saw one guy send a couple of drinks to a single girl across the bar only for her Vietnam BF to walk in later. After exchanged words between them (probably her telling the bf she could make a bit of money here) he dragged her out. Yes, I'm pretty sure BFs pimp there girls around here. Just go to DS to see it happening.
You're probably referring to Red River club (Song Hong) that has a couple of pool tables. I didn't see any working girls there last time I was there.
In Hanoi, for a foreigner to find a working girl, I would suggest you talk to the night security guy or motorbike/taxi guy to lend you some help. I have been offered by a taxi driver, but I turned it down. It's a lot cheaper than the fancy club girls.
I thought my experiences of Hanoi may be of help to like minded guys. I am currently working in Hanoi so am fortunate in having my own apartment which does help.
When I first arrived in Hanoi choice seemed to be thin on the ground but with a little planning things soon looked up. My first success was when a women in her thirties helped me with the menu in a local restaurant we got talking and arranged to meet for dinner the following evening. She was from the south, married and on a course in Hanoi, on the third meeting she agreed to come back to my place to watch TV nothing happened on that first occasion but after that things soon took off. However always wanting to increase my experience I decided a little more in depth research.
My first port of call was a web site called Date In Asia (free) where I managed to hook up with another married woman who wanted to experience western cock. She told me that she had never enjoyed sex with her husband and had heard that western men had bigger cocks so she thought she would like to give it a try, she had the sweetest and tightest pussy I have ever experienced and fucked like crazy. My second hit was a 34 year old unmarried journalist working for six months in Hanoi, initially she was a little shy but after three visits to my house she agreed to stay the night. She has the most fantastic bush and loves pussy licking although is reluctant to give me a proper BJ mealy sucking the tip. I have managed two other encounters but they were on the game and expected a tip but still well worth it.
My second success was through a website called Tagged where I have managed six meets three of which have become regular favorites with two more which I have high hopes for. In my experience there are a lot of married women (not old dogs) in Vietnam who have only experienced sex with their husbands and are curious but don’t want to risk an affair with a Vietnamese man, you will not get them into bed on the first or second meet however with a little persistence you will in the end as they want it just as much as you.
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I thought my experiences of Hanoi may be of help to like minded guys. I am currently working in Hanoi so am fortunate in having my own apartment which does help.
When I first arrived in Hanoi choice seemed to be thin on the ground but with a little planning things soon looked up. My first success was when a women in her thirties helped me with the menu in a local restaurant we got talking and arranged to meet for dinner the following evening. She was from the south, married and on a course in Hanoi, on the third meeting she agreed to come back to my place to watch TV nothing happened on that first occasion but after that things soon took off. However always wanting to increase my experience I decided a little more in depth research.
My first port of call was a web site called Date In Asia (free) where I managed to hook up with another married woman who wanted to experience western cock. She told me that she had never enjoyed sex with her husband and had heard that western men had bigger cocks so she thought she would like to give it a try, she had the sweetest and tightest pussy I have ever experienced and fucked like crazy. My second hit was a 34 year old unmarried journalist working for six months in Hanoi, initially she was a little shy but after three visits to my house she agreed to stay the night. She has the most fantastic bush and loves pussy licking although is reluctant to give me a proper BJ mealy sucking the tip. I have managed two other encounters but they were on the game and expected a tip but still well worth it.
My second success was through a website called Tagged where I have managed six meets three of which have become regular favorites with two more which I have high hopes for. In my experience there are a lot of married women (not old dogs) in Vietnam who have only experienced sex with their husbands and are curious but don’t want to risk an affair with a Vietnamese man, you will not get them into bed on the first or second meet however with a little persistence you will in the end as they want it just as much as you.
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Basically, the above is my experience in Ha Noi. Have never been to a massage place or paid for sex, and with some persistence through the types of websites mentioned above there has never been any shortage of willing partners.
These gals are not experienced, but certainly willing to learn, and yes will not get them into bed until at least the third meeting. Important that they are treated as "good girls". Also important is that your place is reasonably discreet so that they can come and go easily.
I am currently in Hanoi. My first visit. I did RTFF and thus decided for the Fortuna Hotel. Of course found the KTV downstairs and went there first day after arrival with my two companions.
I am not sure how the economics work, I can just tell you what I experienced: Got a line-up of really beautiful girls to choose from, each of us took one. Found out that mine did not speak english and thus asked Mamasan to change and her to recommend a few. Picked one a tall and slim one (could not read her number) and we had a drink (the guys and girls each one). Then the girl suggested to go upstairs. Told that to Mamasan and she asked if long time or short: since long (all night) was 100USD and short 80USD did choose the first and she told me I should go and the girl would follow. However, I still got the check from the bar and it was 145USD. No idea where that number came from, it stated "misc" as one 81, xxUSD point. Well, I figured that was for the lady to come with me, but found later out I was wrong: I had to pay the lady on top in my room.
When she came to my room I realized how beautiful she was and nice too. Bathed together and she started to tease me and give me a BBJ. Went on to the bed and had great energetic sex, however she told me after like 15mins to "finish". It disturbed me but I did. Hugged and she soon got a phone call deciding to leave. No LT? I asked her to stay and after some beggin she did. Talked a lot about her life and her dreams. Then we started to kiss again and went for second round but this time she said "autchie" after a few minutes and asked me to stop. Third later that night would not even allow entrance. Not sure whether that was fake complaining or real, but I felt for her and the way we slept together arm in arm was really nice. Real GFE (including the complains, I guess.) until 11am. She asked for payment and left.
Next evening we went to a club called "Hi Guom Xanh" (32 Le Thai To) in order to meet some regular girls, however it seemed there were none except some groups of guys and girls. The music and stage show were great though and the bartender that served us really cute. She asked for my phone number but even I gave it to her it wasn't much worth since she spoke really ZERO english. Danced with her and some others until 12 when the place closed down.
So what now? I got convinced by one buddy (the other went to bed) to try boss again and decided to pick another girl that would not complain. However, when I saw "mine" I instantly had that warm feeling around my heart and asked her to come with me again. She told me she was sorry for complaining and would love to come with me again. Paid 80USD at the bar and she visited me 5 min later. We bathed again and started to fuck in the bathtub. Then on the bed. Three times, no complain. Fell asleep and woke up in the morning, after long kisses did some sports together. Well, she complained to me after like 10 minutes and asked to stop. I was disappointed first but she indicated to bath again and made me cum with a bbj in the there. Overall as much GFE as P4P can get IMHO (including the negatives).
Ok, so done that: But where can I meet regular vietnames girls? I mean, not only for a one night stand, but if she is educated and speaks english even more? The use of dating sites is a good idea for expats but not that easy if you are just in town for a few days. Any advice? Isn't there a regular bar? I mean, if I see some girls look at me (rather young, blond and tall) it is hard to imagine that you cannot meat regular girls somewhere!
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Ok, so done that: But where can I meet regular vietnames girls? I mean, not only for a one night stand, but if she is educated and speaks english even more? The use of dating sites is a good idea for expats but not that easy if you are just in town for a few days. Any advice? Isn't there a regular bar? I mean, if I see some girls look at me (rather young, blond and tall) it is hard to imagine that you cannot meat regular girls somewhere!My experience is that you just smile and be nice to the girls that you meet in shops, hairdressers and wherever. It may take a few dates and some patience before they come across with a real GFE experience. Small gifts of perfume and chocolates also help. But be aware that once you are ''in'' they can be hard to shake off.
Sudsoz, sounds easy, but Well, maybe I was all in the wrong places: We went to a bar called Club17 next evening and it was the same as the day before just with live band and more bar/less club atmosphere. Sat in the second row so no girls talking to us (the guys at the bar at least had some ongoing conversation). Approached what looked like the only couple of girls in that place who did not work there. But after a few sentences felt like they were freelancers. Since I know I could not bring them to Fortuna but instead my girl was waiting there left to Boss.
She was busy in one of the rooms, but first disappointment vanished as I saw the lineup. Is it just me or has Boss one of the most beautiful girls in asia? So I choose another one, #67, to chat and dring with. Suddenly "my girl" came a long and I felt a bit sorry when she saw me. But she told me to go with my new friend. No, I told her, I wanted to stay the third night with her as well and her answer was "okay, lets go all together. Wait for me here". She showed up around 1pm and after some hesitation I gave in and took both to my room.
Well, my experience with threesomes in asia has been that they never work since the girls just chat with each other and you have to take care of both (which for me is to much work) or one gets bored quickly. Also it makes me crazy when they continiously speak in their native language. Same here, but instead of trying to have a real threesome they just split the time: My girl watched tv while the other did it with me in the bathtub. When we moved to the living room my girl bathed and only came back as we finished. #67 was really great, btw, she clearly faked but that with professional skill so I did not mind. Beautiful face (lovely smile) and nice body. After she left (she only wanted ST) I continued with my girl for the rest of the night who was not a bit disappointed to have shared me.
So overall a good experience and worth the hefty 260USD (80 USD boss+100US DLT+80USD ST) IMHO
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I also posted this in the other areas thread, but I think anyone mongering in Vietnam should be aware of this.
Warning- On June 25th, I was in Hue and looking for a little action. In the main tourist area, it was common for moto or cyclo drivers to approach you with offers of $10 girls, so finally I decided to take one of them up on the offer, and it was a three minute ride to a place which was on a main street but set back from it. I walk in and choose my girl who was nothing fantastic but acceptable for $10. We go in a room which only had couches and a tray of beverages and food was brought in (yes, I did figure I would be paying something for this). I grabbed a beer and she helped herself to a soda without asking. We kissed for a little bit and then she starts feeding me fruit from the tray. Then she opens a small bag of chips and I started telling her no, stop opening stuff (although she didn't really speak English, but my body language was clear) because I could see exactly where this was going. Then she opens a bottle of water and tries to get me to drink it and I was like I have my beer and refused. Anyway, then she said suck suck, and I was like yea, that is what I came for. We bargain, she started at 500, 000 (a far cry from the $10 I was promised), but being Vietnam I bargained her down to 200, 000. She wanted the money and I paid in advance (always a bad idea and I do know better). The result was a lousy handjob with no lubricant. I said wait a minute, you said suck suck, and she said yes, sook sook with a hand motion as if that is the Vietnamese word for a handjob, I of course wasn't buying but not a lot I could do.
I wish that was the worst of this story, but it is not. After I finished she wiped me off and then immediately opened the door and started saying something in Vietnamese, I did not even have my pants up yet and was like what the fuck. I told her to close the door and she ignored me. Then, three more people came in, an overweight bouncer type, the boss, and another girl, and they look at the tray and started writing out a bill, which I knew was coming. They wanted a whopping 1 million dong, which I laughed at, and said no way in hell. They tried to say there was a room charge and all this stuff, and I said frankly the girl was lousy, the only thing I actually opened was a beer, and a beer, soda, some fruit, small bag of chips, and even the bottle of water that the girl opened did not add up to 1 million, maybe like 50, 000. They even pointed to the moist towlettes, saying that was part of the bill. I was like whatever and attempted to just leave, not an option as I was pushed back, so I just sat down on the couch and figured I had to wait them out a bit. Of course, they were yelling at me and trying to intimidate me, but I remained defiant. Then they dropped it down to 300, 000. I still refused and they were not happy, threatening to kill me. I told them to go ahead (because I knew they were full of shit). I also told them I would be calling the police and the boss said he owned the police and he was with the mafia, which I laughed at. He said he was going to get his club, I told him to go ahead. Then they dropped it to 200, 000, and I still said it was too much. At that point he grabbed my throat as if he was going to choke me, but really didn't choke or hurt me. He again said he was going to kill me and that he was going to get his club. I told him to go ahead. He then left the room (not a good sign) and actually came back with a club, I showed no fear but I was getting very concerned even though I really thought they were full of shit. They said 100, 000 and I said okay, I paid it, and they walked me outside, where motorbikes were waiting. The motorbike drivers did the typical calling out of motorbike, and I said no, I don't need to go anywhere, I just need to find a phone to call the police. I walked out to the main road and took note of the surroundings and the addresses of the neighboring buildings so I could remember where this was and identify it for the police. The asshole boss then came out and gave me a 50, 000 note and said here, now you only pay 50, 000, now go. I took a motorbike, still taking note of the way back and how to get there. When I got back to my hotel (small guesthouse), I said that I needed to talk to the police and asked them to call them for me. Apparently the owner of the hotel is also a police officer, so they said they could definitely help me. They called a friend who speaks good English, and I told him the whole story. He said yes, the police will do something, we will go talk to the owner, he is police. The two of them talked in Vietnamese, and then they asked me where it was, I gave them complete directions with street address, and the cop/owner changed the look on his face when he heard the directions. I was then told that it was too far away (3 minutes by motorbike) for the police to do anything, and that I just needed to be careful, which I saw straight through, obviously they do have a police connection.
Anyway, I guess the most important thing is to follow basic mongering rules, never pay in advance, don't bring more money than you need in case you get robbed (an empty wallet would also help bargain them down, showing them you don't have it.) Also, going to places recommended on this forum is probably a safer bet. If you do wind up in a situation like this, just remain defiant, stay strong, and be prepared to wait. Oh, and two days later in Hanoi I found myself trapped in the back of a taxi (doors/windows wouldn't open) with a rigged meter that ran ten times as fast and the driver wouldn't let me out as I refused to pay. I again just waited it out and after about twenty minutes I was freed without paying a cent. Apparently, only take taxis with reputable companies. I have been to 22 countries, including supposedly dangerous ones in Central America, and Brazil, mongered and traveled all over, but I have never had these kinds of issues anywhere else.
Your experience was unpleasant but then many experiences in Vietnam are like that. The only experiences I had in Hue was the kind of rip-off experience like you had without the unhappy ending. Invariably promised FS at the outset etc, in the room with cheap plastic sofas (always a bad sign), I was hooked additional money at each stage for hand job and blow job and taking pants down but no FS. And nothing was really provided anyway. I got bored and just walked out before they could pull anything else on me. That was some years ago but it appears that things just don't change in Vietnam.
The only thing such people understand is power. Unless you can muscle up more power than they have, such as higher police connections, just don't go there. Tell the rest of us where the place is and tell everyone in Hue about it too. Vietnam operates on reputation in every market; go to providers who have a good reputation (such as a good mention on this board) and given all the bad ones a bad rep on this board.
But when it comes to rip-off taxi drivers, all you have to do is learn the Vietnamese words "Khanh Sat" (pronounced Kaing Sat where you swallow the last T - it means police) and shout it out as loud as you can. Bang on the windows - open them and shout it loud. You also need to take a photo of the guy and the registration number of the taxi and even a sneaky pic of the meter with the inflated number. Invariably he will back down. The shouting makes it quicker.
After you exit the taxi, go to the police if you can or ask your guesthouse to report it for you. Often these rip-off guys hang out around places where tourists are, such as popular restaurants. Report the taxi to the restaurant. They will usually either see them off or make sure that customers do not take that cab.
I also posted this in the other areas thread, but I think anyone mongering in Vietnam should be aware of this.
Warning- On June 25th, I was in Hue and looking for a little action. In the main tourist area, it was common for moto or cyclo drivers to approach you with offers of $10 girls, so finally I decided to take one of them up on the offer, and it was a three minute ride to a place which was on a main street but set back from it. I walk in and choose my girl who was nothing fantastic but acceptable for $10. We go in a room which only had couches and a tray of beverages and food was brought in (yes, I did figure I would be paying something for this). I grabbed a beer and she helped herself to a soda without asking. We kissed for a little bit and then she starts feeding me fruit from the tray. Then she opens a small bag of chips and I started telling her no, stop opening stuff (although she didn't really speak English, but my body language was clear) because I could see exactly where this was going. Then she opens a bottle of water and tries to get me to drink it and I was like I have my beer and refused. Anyway, then she said suck suck, and I was like yea, that is what I came for. We bargain, she started at 500, 000 (a far cry from the $10 I was promised), but being Vietnam I bargained her down to 200, 000. She wanted the money and I paid in advance (always a bad idea and I do know better). The result was a lousy handjob with no lubricant. I said wait a minute, you said suck suck, and she said yes, sook sook with a hand motion as if that is the Vietnamese word for a handjob, I of course wasn't buying but not a lot I could do.
I wish that was the worst of this story, but it is not. After I finished she wiped me off and then immediately opened the door and started saying something in Vietnamese, I did not even have my pants up yet and was like what the fuck. I told her to close the door and she ignored me. Then, three more people came in, an overweight bouncer type, the boss, and another girl, and they look at the tray and started writing out a bill, which I knew was coming. They wanted a whopping 1 million dong, which I laughed at, and said no way in hell. They tried to say there was a room charge and all this stuff, and I said frankly the girl was lousy, the only thing I actually opened was a beer, and a beer, soda, some fruit, small bag of chips, and even the bottle of water that the girl opened did not add up to 1 million, maybe like 50, 000. They even pointed to the moist towlettes, saying that was part of the bill. I was like whatever and attempted to just leave, not an option as I was pushed back, so I just sat down on the couch and figured I had to wait them out a bit. Of course, they were yelling at me and trying to intimidate me, but I remained defiant. Then they dropped it down to 300, 000. I still refused and they were not happy, threatening to kill me. I told them to go ahead (because I knew they were full of shit). I also told them I would be calling the police and the boss said he owned the police and he was with the mafia, which I laughed at. He said he was going to get his club, I told him to go ahead. Then they dropped it to 200, 000, and I still said it was too much. At that point he grabbed my throat as if he was going to choke me, but really didn't choke or hurt me. He again said he was going to kill me and that he was going to get his club. I told him to go ahead. He then left the room (not a good sign) and actually came back with a club, I showed no fear but I was getting very concerned even though I really thought they were full of shit. They said 100, 000 and I said okay, I paid it, and they walked me outside, where motorbikes were waiting. The motorbike drivers did the typical calling out of motorbike, and I said no, I don't need to go anywhere, I just need to find a phone to call the police. I walked out to the main road and took note of the surroundings and the addresses of the neighboring buildings so I could remember where this was and identify it for the police. The asshole boss then came out and gave me a 50, 000 note and said here, now you only pay 50, 000, now go. I took a motorbike, still taking note of the way back and how to get there. When I got back to my hotel (small guesthouse), I said that I needed to talk to the police and asked them to call them for me. Apparently the owner of the hotel is also a police officer, so they said they could definitely help me. They called a friend who speaks good English, and I told him the whole story. He said yes, the police will do something, we will go talk to the owner, he is police. The two of them talked in Vietnamese, and then they asked me where it was, I gave them complete directions with street address, and the cop/owner changed the look on his face when he heard the directions. I was then told that it was too far away (3 minutes by motorbike) for the police to do anything, and that I just needed to be careful, which I saw straight through, obviously they do have a police connection.
Anyway, I guess the most important thing is to follow basic mongering rules, never pay in advance, don't bring more money than you need in case you get robbed (an empty wallet would also help bargain them down, showing them you don't have it.) Also, going to places recommended on this forum is probably a safer bet. If you do wind up in a situation like this, just remain defiant, stay strong, and be prepared to wait. Oh, and two days later in Hanoi I found myself trapped in the back of a taxi (doors/windows wouldn't open) with a rigged meter that ran ten times as fast and the driver wouldn't let me out as I refused to pay. I again just waited it out and after about twenty minutes I was freed without paying a cent. Apparently, only take taxis with reputable companies. I have been to 22 countries, including supposedly dangerous ones in Central America, and Brazil, mongered and traveled all over, but I have never had these kinds of issues anywhere else.
Explorerman
07-09-09, 08:48
Hey Guys
Has anyone noticed that there are at least three new MPs opening up on the major road heading from Sofitel Plaza out to West Lake?
Several others along that route have massage+ services (though no FS), and I am curious if anyone has tried any of them.
News?
Hanoi - Au Co
Hey Guys
Has anyone noticed that there are at least three new MPs opening up on the major road heading from Sofitel Plaza out to West Lake?
Several others along that route have massage+ services (though no FS), and I am curious if anyone has tried any of them.
News?
I m staying in this area-- new territory for me but agree it seems to be developing all around the big lake (Ho Tay). I have been wanting to journey into some of these places but still trying to bone up on the basics of the language first.
Anyone else have more news or want to join forces to explore?
Mannu Maingi
07-12-09, 13:38
Can anyone tell me what is Hanoi in respect to Night Life, girls, casino massage etc is available or not and is hilton hanoi worth staying
Asia Rocks
07-14-09, 02:17
Can anyone tell me what is Hanoi in respect to Night Life, girls, casino massage etc is available or not and is hilton hanoi worth staying
Dude,
Sorry, but you are going to receive the wrath of my being tired, in a bad mood and incredulous about stupid inquiries as this. RTFF; it's all there.
AR
Dude,
Sorry, but you are going to receive the wrath of my being tired, in a bad mood and incredulous about stupid inquiries as this. RTFF; it's all there.
AR
Thanks AR - I could not be bothered responding.
Explorerman
07-14-09, 05:52
Hanoi - Au Co
Hey Guys
Has anyone noticed that there are at least three new MPs opening up on the major road heading from Sofitel Plaza out to West Lake?
Several others along that route have massage+ services (though no FS), and I am curious if anyone has tried any of them.
News?
I m staying in this area-- new territory for me but agree it seems to be developing all around the big lake (Ho Tay). I have been wanting to journey into some of these places but still trying to bone up on the basics of the language first.
Anyone else have more news or want to join forces to explore?
I tried out the farthest of the three places last night, at 148 Au Co. By the way, they have a half price sale for thier opening. I think it was 105,000 for the sauna, jacuzzi and massage. Everything was new and clean. The massage was good, done by a cute Saigon girl. The inevitable playing and tugging at the right places led to negotiation. I said 200,000, she said 500, ended up somewhere in the middle, which was higher than I wanted, but I was lazy. I usually want to keep it to 200, max 300 in a nicer place. HJ, no BJ. If the massage had not been excellent actually, it would have been a bit much.
Anyway, if you like the spa/sauna/massage deal with a treat, this is another decent option now. She also hinted about meeting me at my hotel and gave me her number, but with her ahving almost no english, that would surprise me if it happens, cause my VN sucks....
She also hinted about meeting me at my hotel and gave me her number, but with her ahving almost no english, that would surprise me if it happens, cause my VN sucks....
But usually they will understand a simple message. Try it!
Explorerman
07-15-09, 03:16
But usually they will understand a simple message. Try it!
A good thought. I did try it, and got an English reply back that she could not possibly have written, so probably she had to ask a friend. It was the "official reply" that she could not see me outside the place, which was not what she said in person, since when we talked she had used the term "boom boom" and hotel, and I know what that means.... I will try again.... :)
A good thought. I did try it, and got an English reply back that she could not possibly have written, so probably she had to ask a friend. It was the "official reply" that she could not see me outside the place, which was not what she said in person, since when we talked she had used the term "boom boom" and hotel, and I know what that means.... I will try again.... :)
Sounds like an official response from her boss. Send her a message early morning (so only she reads) and suggest a meeting at your hotel in the afternoon or lunchtime. Give her name, address and time. Presuming your hotel will let her in of course.
Explorerman
07-15-09, 08:59
Sounds like an official response from her boss. Send her a message early morning (so only she reads) and suggest a meeting at your hotel in the afternoon or lunchtime. Give her name, address and time. Presuming your hotel will let her in of course.
Yes, working that angle now. Thanks for the encouragement! :) It seems to be working.
What sort of tip would you suggest to her for the home delivery service such as this? :)
Yes, working that angle now. Thanks for the encouragement! :) It seems to be working.
What sort of tip would you suggest to her for the home delivery service such as this? :)
About what you tipped before - a bit more for overnight. Remember that you are providing her with an experience of comfort even luxury that she is not used to.
And try not to discuss money up front.
Explorerman
07-15-09, 09:49
About what you tipped before - a bit more for overnight. Remember that you are providing her with an experience of comfort even luxury that she is not used to.
And try not to discuss money up front.
Super! I will PM you any details, if it happens. She is asking me where now.... :)
Remember that you are providing her with an experience of comfort even luxury that she is not used to.Ha ha ha that's unpredictable. Hanoi girls can be unpredictable in what the appreciate. A "luxury" bathroom but without a bum-squirter? Carpet? (Dirty. Harbours bugs). Aircon that makes them feel "so cold". Hotel staff that make comments behind your back that you won't even know about. Hotel food that is "dreadful" compared with the street food they are used to.
I exaggerate to make a point, but I find Hanoi girls in particular don't necessarily appreciate the same things in the same way as foreigners.
Explorerman
07-16-09, 08:06
Ha ha ha that's unpredictable. Hanoi girls can be unpredictable in what they appreciate. A "luxury" bathroom but without a bum-squirter? Carpet? (Dirty. Harbours bugs). Aircon that makes them feel "so cold". Hotel staff that make comments behind your back that you won't even know about. Hotel food that is "dreadful" compared with the street food they are used to.
I exaggerate to make a point, but I find Hanoi girls in particular don't necessarily appreciate the same things in the same way as foreigners.
This one loved the fancy place. Ooooh and ahhh at the view, etc. Loved the fancy bathroom, so much so that she took two showers, one before the fun and one with me afterwards. Yes, and my bathroom fortunately had a 'bum-squirter".... HAHAHA
In between, three hours of great fun, and I will definitely repeat with her. She was almost insatible, which is something I love....
Tried Esalen Massage, 6 Nghi Tam, Tay Ho, kitty corner from the Sofitel. 150, 000 entrance, including massage, shower, sauna, jacuzzi. Reasonably clean, good massage rooms but with the viewing window. 2 cops standing guard outside, so owner's connected. No choice of girl but they all seemed young and attractive. Some female clients also using the facility. Girl did a decent massage but annoyed me with pestering for excessive tip for HJ at the end (I'm a Viet speaker). So I ended up just tipping 50, 000 and no HJ. Told her she'll do better in the future if she takes a less aggressive approach. In spite of that, I'd return in the future.
Also tried massage/sauna at BSC Hotel on 77 Kim Ma St. Not as sanitary and rather run-down. 100, 000 massage plus HJ tip. Girl tried to get 400,000, settled for 200.000, probably would've taken 100,000. Girls OK but a notch lower than Esalen.
Explorerman
07-17-09, 03:04
Tried Esalen Massage, 6 Nghi Tam, Tay Ho, kitty corner from the Sofitel. 150, 000 entrance, including massage, shower, sauna, jacuzzi. Reasonably clean, good massage rooms but with the viewing window. 2 cops standing guard outside, so owner's connected. No choice of girl but they all seemed young and attractive. Some female clients also using the facility. Girl did a decent massage but annoyed me with pestering for excessive tip for HJ at the end (I'm a Viet speaker). So I ended up just tipping 50, 000 and no HJ. Told her she'll do better in the future if she takes a less aggressive approach. In spite of that, I'd return in the future.
Also tried massage/sauna at BSC Hotel on 77 Kim Ma St. Not as sanitary and rather run-down. 100, 000 massage plus HJ tip. Girl tried to get 400,000, settled for 200.000, probably would've taken 100,000. Girls OK but a notch lower than Esalen.
Thanks. I have not tried that one, but saw it as it just opened. The other one further up the road near the Sheraton is pretty good also.
By the way, this one says it is Esalen III. If the one up the road is Esalen, is there an Esalen II somewhere? I assume so, but have never seen it.
Brothels are north of the Tay Ho-lake on Duong Loc Long Quan and adjacent streets. This area has quite a few expats and well to do tourists so price seems to be up to 400,000 dong. I had to pay before service but the girl did come thru with a fine performance. Big room and bed with shower.
Note: I agree with TJhooker report on Hanoi Viets in general. Watch your back.
Aside from the wrong street name for this local area brothel near Sheraton, are the prices also wrong (400,000???) as some describe place here as dirty rundown rooms/sheets etc. 400,000 seems way to high or is this the starting asking price and whats common practice in asia, the correct price is usually half of the asking price?
Anyone been here lately and can clarify this.
Explorerman
07-20-09, 06:18
Aside from the wrong street name for this local area brothel near Sheraton, are the prices also wrong (400,000???) as some describe place here as dirty rundown rooms/sheets etc. 400,000 seems way to high or is this the starting asking price and whats common practice in asia, the correct price is usually half of the asking price?
Anyone been here lately and can clarify this.
I went once, and it was a bit too "earthy' for me. I think that they wanted 1,000,000 (since I am Western), and I recall going for 500,000, which was way too high for the value given, even considering everything.
I know others like it, but not for me.... To each his own.
Gradually making my way through the massage parlors. Tried the one on the fourth floor of the hotel at 146 Giang Vo. 90,000 for hour massage. Not top-of-the-line but not awful either. Girl was a bit chunky for my taste but pretty face. She did her massage for 40 minutes, chatting with me in Vietnamese the whole time, then went right into HJ (no pre-negotiations). She encouraged me repeatedly to play with her, also said she was off in 20 minutes and would like to go out with me. In a year at the place, she said I was the first American she'd had. Usually did Vietnamese dudes, with an odd assortment of Asian foreigners from China, Korea, Singapore and Japan. I tipped her 100.000. She wanted more but I said that was that. And frandkly, that's as high as a customer should go at that place. I wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with her. I doubt there are many English speakers working at the place, but of the other girls I glanced at look pretty decent, as high as a 7.
A few more massage places. Hanoi is pretty full of them. I got this information from a Vietnamese site. Nothing to write home about:
Oasis Hotel (right across the street from the Fortuna): Massage place on 4th floor. 90, 000 for the hr massage. Girl Ok, maybe a 5/6. Probably high-end flocks to Fortuna either for massage or Boss nightclub. Tipped 100, 000 after HJ. She tried to extort more, showing me the phony receipt book with receipts for 500, 000.
Massage place at 35 Chau Long, a street away from Truc Back Lake: When I walked in, they showed me a sign for $10/hr. I know the price was 100, 000 from the Vietnamese site. I flipped the sign around and sure enough it said 100, 000 (Vietnamese price). I should have walked as I don't appreciate the 2-tiered pricing structure. They quickly backed away and said, oh, OK, you speak Vietnamese, discounted prices for you. I did the massage for 100, 000. Woman was 4/5, fairly skilled at massage, was happy to do HJ. Tipped 100.000. As in other places, whined for more money. I gave her the knowing Vietnamese, what-kind-of-an-idiot-do-you-think-I-am look and she shut up. If you go there, flip the sign over and insist on the real prices. Girls are OK for 100, 000, not worth 180, 000.
I think these girls have been so accustomed to foreign suckers lavishing ridiculous tips that they can't resist.
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Explorerman
08-03-09, 03:40
A few more massage places. Hanoi is pretty full of them. I got this information from a Vietnamese site. Nothing to write home about:
Oasis Hotel (right across the street from the Fortuna): Massage place on 4th floor. 90, 000 for the hr massage. Girl Ok, maybe a 5/6. Probably high-end flocks to Fortuna either for massage or Boss nightclub. Tipped 100, 000 after HJ. She tried to extort more, showing me the phony receipt book with receipts for 500, 000.
Massage place at 35 Chau Long, a street away from Truc Back Lake: When I walked in, they showed me a sign for $10/hr. I know the price was 100, 000 from the Vietnamese site. I flipped the sign around and sure enough it said 100, 000 (Vietnamese price). I should have walked as I don't appreciate the 2-tiered pricing structure. They quickly backed away and said, oh, OK, you speak Vietnamese, discounted prices for you. I did the massage for 100, 000. Woman was 4/5, fairly skilled at massage, was happy to do HJ. Tipped 100.000. As in other places, whined for more money. I gave her the knowing Vietnamese, what-kind-of-an-idiot-do-you-think-I-am look and she shut up. If you go there, flip the sign over and insist on the real prices. Girls are OK for 100, 000, not worth 180, 000.
I think these girls have been so accustomed to foreign suckers lavishing ridiculous tips that they can't resist.
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Thanks for the tips on various places. Very helpful.
I go to a salon for a regular haircut, and usually a massage also. Not their speciality, but the owner gives the massage - and no funny business, just good massage. We've been doing this for a few months, and the massages keep getting more "friendly". She has been teasing me, and rubbing the base of my balls, etc, but would not take the next step.
I had a funny idea to invite her to give her a massage. Invited her over to my place, and I planned to give her the kind of massage I want her to give me.... :) She said OK, after checking whether I wanted her to pay! haha. I liked that one. I told her no, it was just my way to thank her for being so nice to me.
So we proceeded, and I gave her about a 2 hour massage. She started with bra and panties on, but we got those lost once I started to use oil. Then I teased her, which was fair considering how much she has teased me.... Face down, I did a nice oil massage, and spent a lot of time on her bum.... A little oil around her anus just to be thorough.... :) And a bit of teasing with the hands reaching the top of her thighs. Then time to turn her over. Oiled her breasts, and her nipples hardened.... She wiggled a bit, but still stayed calm.... Then I got to the legs.... That was fun. I could see her pussy was soaking wet, so obviously she liked having her breasts massaged, and was thinking about the rest.... :) I teased her more, and started with the legs.... By the time I got to her upper thighs, my strokes went up her thigh almost to her pussy lips. She clearly loved it, and spread her legs so I could do it more.... I was not so easy though.... Massaged her tummy, and her legs, and then teased her more. My revenge! :) Finally, my hands 'accidently' went all the way to her pussy, and then she moaned and began wiggling. I then gave her a very long nice slow finger massage, and her legs were fully spread to let me do so, and she is moaning and wiggling. So much fun.... :) Then I decided to dine at the Y, and she exploded....
Then so horny, she tore off my few bit of clothes, and asked me to fuck her. That was great....
But problem: It seems that though she is divorced, she is catholic, and felt very bad about fucking, and she says I am the only man she has fucked other than her husband. So we made a deal: anything goes, but no fucking. Now she comes over for kissing, and gives me a great BJ and I give her a licking, so great mutual oral for orgasm.... That is between friends, so freebie....
At her shop, when I go for massage and I pay, no BJ, but at least she finishes with HJ now. So I have her well trained now....
Nice to have a good hairdresser!
Nice to have a good hairdresser![/QUOTE]What a coincidence!
I was just thinking of looking for a good new barber!
Explorerman
08-04-09, 02:35
Nice to have a good hairdresser!
What a coincidence!
I was just thinking of looking for a good new barber!
I hope these few training "tips" help in your search, and are an encouragement! :)
Dragonfly22
08-09-09, 16:15
I'll be taking my HCMC gf with me to Hanoi, anything I should be wary of? Have had no problems getting her in my rooms in HCMC but hoping I don't have to book 2 rooms in Hanoi. Anyone have any problems in the mini hotels bringing takeout along in Hanoi?
Explorerman
08-10-09, 02:49
I'll be taking my HCMC gf with me to Hanoi, anything I should be wary of? Have had no problems getting her in my rooms in HCMC but hoping I don't have to book 2 rooms in Hanoi. Anyone have any problems in the mini hotels bringing takeout along in Hanoi?
Wanting to do similar in HCMC. We can PM for favorite hotels in each place. But generally the three star hotels here have been very flexible.
I'll be taking my HCMC gf with me to Hanoi, anything I should be wary of? Have had no problems getting her in my rooms in HCMC but hoping I don't have to book 2 rooms in Hanoi. Anyone have any problems in the mini hotels bringing takeout along in Hanoi?
Try the small single frontage hotels in the old town area. Places like Heart Hotel and others nearby should still be OK.
I'll be taking my HCMC gf with me to Hanoi, anything I should be wary of? Have had no problems getting her in my rooms in HCMC but hoping I don't have to book 2 rooms in Hanoi. Anyone have any problems in the mini hotels bringing takeout along in Hanoi?
Been doing this for years in HN and HCMC at a range of hotels (no star to 5 star) and never a problem. At one 4 star place in HCMC they asked for a marriage certificate, we said we didn't always carry it (who would) and that would have it faxed.
A lot depends on the VN gal, if she looks respectable and confident, then should not be a problem.
Been doing this for years in HN and HCMC at a range of hotels (no star to 5 star) and never a problem. At one 4 star place in HCMC they asked for a marriage certificate, we said we didn't always carry it (who would) and that would have it faxed.
A lot depends on the VN gal, if she looks respectable and confident, then should not be a problem.
That's right, it does depend a lot on the girl's looks. A lot of hoes dress like, well, hoes. Even when wearing what they consider normal street clothes they still look like. . . . hoes. But if your gal is educated and employed and normal looking, you have lots of hotel choices.
BTW, making and carrying a copy of a fake foreign marriage certificate should be easy if you really are worried.
JD
I thought it worth while letting you lads know about my recent visit to Do Son which is the nearest beach resort to Hanoi. I am working in Viet Nam and fortunate to work with a noumer of guys who not only work hard but play hard when away from home. We wre staying overnight on a job in Do Son and the lads decided that they would show methe elights of the town, so following a late meel and a number of beers we set off. I was under strict instructions not to pay anyone as they would make all the arangements At are first port of call (there were seven of us) we were shown a string of young ladies all of which I would give at least 8/10, several of the lads made their selection but each girl I selected seemed rather reluctant so I passed on them. At last one girl seemed happy and led me by the hand to a very pleasent room playing wth my balls on the way. After undoing my shirt and me taking off her top she removed my trousers and that when the problem started. At that stage I was only half hard but as she held my cock it started to swell and she jumped a mile, pointing to my cock and her pussy she kept saking her head and getting dressed she ran from the room. So on to number two a sweet girl who was happy to give a BJ but a soon as I put on a condom the same thing happened, number three was a sucess and I enjoyed a 69 then a great fuck. I must say that all this proved great fun to the guys and I have risen greatly in their eyes.
After a quick beer off to another house as not all the guys found a girl the fancied and then off to number three for "one for the road" which in my case I would give 9/10 bigger that most Vietnamese girls with fantastic tits who told the guys when we entered that she wanted me and it was the best fuck I had had in ages.
Cost 1,500VND (short time) 4,500VND all ningt. Come on lads there are hundredes in Do Som you won't be dissapointed.
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MutantChicken
08-14-09, 01:58
Hey are those prices correct?
1, 500 dong is like 1 buck. You don't mean 1.5 mill st and 4.5 mill overnight? . Which by the way is far too expensive.
Nail The World
08-14-09, 07:19
1, 500 dong is like 1 buck. You don't mean 1.5 mill st and 4.5 mill overnight? . Which by the way is far too expensive.I don't think they would even think of charging that kind of amount. What he probably meant is 150K and 450K which I think is awesome!
Sorry lads for the typo Nail has got it correct I should have said 150,000 and 450,000 which I think is great value but I have to thank my Vietnamese friends for that as I don't think I would have got that if I was on my own.
First of all I have to say that Hanoi sucks!
Too much control and all entertainments venues licit or else close at 12 pm.
C'mon! Well used to China and Thailand this is not for me.
I like also the hunting and feebees scene but nothing of that here.
Disapointed, tired of a long meetings day and desilutioned I stroll out looking for a massage place. Just a massage! I walked out of the Sheraton for a while on the directionof the neares Sofitel, just close to the later on the left hand side ther is a massage parlour called ESALEN Massage 3.
The lady inside told me what kind service I wanted and I replied that I needed a good massage, she told me sauna steem and one hor massage for 200K local money, I said I really need agood massage she said do not worry if is not good she give me 50% off, so I went in.
After a sauna and shower I was handed a pair of shorts and off we went to the little massage rooms. Few minutes later came in a cutie named Lynn well she did a very good massage indeed very professional, she spoke some english and made funny comments, I played stupid and at the 50th minute she told me that she liked me (hahahahahahha) and that she would like to meet me later at my hotel.
I said well why not do something here first I really need to get something going while waiting for her (her shift end at 12pm, I was at her shop at 5pm) so she said she can only perform HJ there because managers do not allow anything else and in addition the doors are semi transparent so anyone could pic in. She told me I have to sign for a tip of 300K, at taht point I was quite exited and also hopeful of a later encounter so I signed.
Being a masseuse she is very 'handy" and soon afetr I was done.
After cleaning and some cuddling she gave me her mobile numebr and told me to call her after her shift ended, I saved my little piece of paper under my boxers and happy went for a shower.
At the cashier I paid 200K plus 300K for "extras" no discussions there no add ups, I was quite happy and ready to go. The cashier rthen asked me if I had enjoyed my session, and I said certainly was really stress free and ready for a good dinner. She asked me if I would come back soon, I said most probably yes so she gave me a coupon for 50% discount on my next visit.
What a lucky day!
Now dinner is over I'm here writing making time for my "friend" to come.
Tell you more in aday or two. Bye bye
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What a lucky day!
Now dinner is over I'm here writing making time for my "friend" to come.
Tell you more in aday or two. Bye byeDid she turn up Jello?
Was she what you expected?
How much did she want, and how much did you pay?
My theory that it takes three dates to get into a Ha Noi girls knickers has proved correct yet again. I found her on the Date In Asia website the first meeting was in a restaurant and at the end of the evening she went home but said she would like to meet again the following day. This time she came to my apartment and although she talked a lot about sex she kept her distance and left at 1100 but did send me a email saying that she found it difficult to resist as she hadnt had sex for some time and suggesting that if we met again things may be different. At the third meeting she was a little quiet to begin with but after a few hours soon hotted up, she couldn't stay all night as her family would worry but we did enjoy a good session.
If you are interested in paying there is a girl on DIA called intellegent who is a great fuck she will ask for $50 but agreed 500,000VND on our second meeting for all night.
Thanks Riverstar, I'm going to be in Hanoi in early October and maybe I will look up that DIA girl. How would you rate her looks?
Bigfoot,
It's difficult to rate her as she is not your typical Vietnamese girl.
The last time we met her head was shaved at the side and orange on top.
However she had a sweet pussy and knew how to use her mouth.
That would explain why she didn't send any pics. We have had a couple of email exchanges and that would be a fun diversion for this recently divorced 65 year old guy. Never done a girl with orange hair. LOL
Bang goes my theory that it takes three dates before you get into a Vietnamese girls pants. I had been chatting to her on the net for some time but we had never managed to get together until I told her I would soon leave Vietnam so last night we had a date but she turned up with a friend. After a quick drink in my local bar she suggested moving to another bar where she said would introduce me to her friends where we had a great evening and when the bar closed she offered to take me home on her bike. During the journey she said she was tired and didn't want to drive home and asked if she could stay, the rest as they say is history.
She wasn't your typical Vietnamese girl fantastic big tits and worked in the arts and all she wanted to do was suck and fuck even wakeing me up in the middle of the night for yet another session. Total cost 300,000VND for drinks
MutantChicken
09-02-09, 22:36
Bang goes my theory that it takes three dates before you get into a Vietnamese girls pants. I had been chatting to her on the net for some time but we had never managed to get together until I told her I would soon leave Vietnam so last night we had a date but she turned up with a friend. After a quick drink in my local bar she suggested moving to another bar where she said would introduce me to her friends where we had a great evening and when the bar closed she offered to take me home on her bike. During the journey she said she was tired and didn't want to drive home and asked if she could stay, the rest as they say is history.
She wasn't your typical Vietnamese girl fantastic big tits and worked in the arts and all she wanted to do was suck and fuck even wakeing me up in the middle of the night for yet another session. Total cost 300, 000VND for drinksGreat report, I have had this happen to me as well, but I'm always worried about marriage traps, esp when the girl is 30+ and average looking.
So how attractive is this girl and whats her DIA name?
The various sites (yahoo, tagged, dia) for meeting VN girls are fine. Depends on your taste. Frankly, there are a number of unattractive women so I always insist on exchange of photos before meeting. By the time most of them are in their 30s, they are unmarriable in Vietnam, so they're pretty hungry for adventure. Works pretty well but it tends to be hard to lose them after a night. I've always believed that you pay for a girl not to meet them but to say goodbye.
Neversummer1911
09-03-09, 16:44
I'm going to halong bay cruise by myself end of this month.3d/2n. I will be based off Hanoi.
It would be nice to take someone along.
What would be the best way to make this happen? I'm new to the Hanoi scene. So I don't know where to go.
SHould I pick them up in KTVs? Bar/clubs? Massage parlour? Off the street?
What is the going rate? If I take her to the cruise. Do I pay her per day? How much do you guys suggest?
Thanks in advance. This will help a lot.
"The man"
I know what you mean I have had two girls who wanted more than just a
a good fuck but that didn't cause a big problem in fact I wanted to see one more that she would see me. I no spring chicken 60 next week and the most enjoyable two ladies I met were both in their late 40's both married who wanted somthing on the side One had the tightest pussy I have ever had and said that she had never enjoyed sex with he husband as he was too small and liked feeling my big cock inside her, the other although 47 has a fantastic body and knew how to use it, I think I have had more pleasure from them than any of the the younger girls I have met. I am leaving Viet Nam next week to work for a time in Cambodia and although I know that I will not be short of company but I will miss my regulars.
"The man"
I know what you mean I have had two girls who wanted more than just a
a good fuck but that didn't cause a big problem in fact I wanted to see one more that she would see me. I no spring chicken 60 next week and the most enjoyable two ladies I met were both in their late 40's both married who wanted somthing on the side One had the tightest pussy I have ever had and said that she had never enjoyed sex with he husband as he was too small and liked feeling my big cock inside her, the other although 47 has a fantastic body and knew how to use it, I think I have had more pleasure from them than any of the the younger girls I have met. I am leaving Viet Nam next week to work for a time in Cambodia and although I know that I will not be short of company but I will miss my regulars.
From my experience a good target age is unmarried 28-35. Usually if not married by 25-27 they consider themselves on the rack, family expectations have diminished, and are therefore more likely to not focus so much on getting married and branch out into a liitle experimentation and new life experiences. There are heaps of them around.
I'm going to halong bay cruise by myself end of this month.3d/2n. I will be based off Hanoi.
It would be nice to take someone along.
What would be the best way to make this happen? I'm new to the Hanoi scene. So I don't know where to go.
SHould I pick them up in KTVs? Bar/clubs? Massage parlour? Off the street?
What is the going rate? If I take her to the cruise. Do I pay her per day? How much do you guys suggest?
Thanks in advance. This will help a lot.Riverstar found a girl on dateinasia dot com by the name of intellegent. I connected with her and she is going to guide me around the city and make me comfortable. I'm also going at the end of the month so don't horndog on my trip but if you are there from 30 September through 2nd October lets try to hook up. I don't have PM's but there must be some way we can hook up without posting email addresses.
Explorerman
09-16-09, 03:18
Riverstar found a girl on dateinasia dot com by the name of intellegent. I connected with her and she is going to guide me around the city and make me comfortable. I'm also going at the end of the month so don't horndog on my trip but if you are there from 30 September through 2nd October lets try to hook up. I don't have PM's but there must be some way we can hook up without posting email addresses.
Funny, I got contacted once by the same girl. She wanted quite a bit of money, as I recall. Did you hook up? Send me a PM if you did, as I am curious....
Funny, I got contacted once by the same girl. She wanted quite a bit of money, as I recall. Did you hook up? Send me a PM if you did, as I am curious....Hmmmmm she sent a message to me too after I browsed her site.
I decided she is a player and never followed up.
Maybe she really is smart and "intellegent" hehehe.
Good luck guys - she's all yours.
Member #3423
09-23-09, 09:04
Hello all,
I was in Hanoi Hilton Opera several times ago. The last time, 3 weeks ago, I arranged a meeting with the girl named "intelligent" from DIA before I left Europe.
She gave me her mobilnumber and I gave her the rough plan at what time she should come to the Hotel. As I arrived in the Hotel, I sended her a SMS to verify the time and the room number.
Shortly after the arrived at the room door and we had a good conversation (like an interview) and afterwards we negotiated about the price for 2 times of fucking.
After the job was done and two hours where spend she dissapeared from my room. We stayed in contact via DIA, but I dint found any time to invite her again.
Look: 6/10 (Fancy short hair, orange)
Sex: 7/10 (acrobatic and active)
Price: 2/10 (Asked for 100 US for ST, we agreed on 50 US)
HILTON in general is a goob place to bring girls in. They will ask you to sign for that girl on the reception and the girl has to leave her ID there, but I didnt got any problems to bring up girls the last three times.
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She sounds like a nice girl. I'm looking forward to my time with her next week.
Bartchamdo
10-01-09, 09:17
Dear every one, I have a look on the web dateinasia.com, there is no girl call intellegent anny more, she is not exist, can anny one have another suggestion for another girl on that site?
Maybe she's concerned about being found out and signed up with a new account. Could be she even reads this forum and was worried about being too visible? Just guesses.
I think the best way to go is to just sign up and see what happens. Any pro out there who is working the site is going to want to drum up business, so give her a chance to make her move.
PorkLobster
10-07-09, 18:39
i was just the victim of a classic scam on my last night in hanoi. as i was walking around the old quarter around 10.30 tonight, thinking of whether to get a final drink or whether to call it a day (hanoi closes rather early), a guy comes up on a motorbike, calling "want boom-boom? 20 dollars? young girl. 15 dollars?" first i ignore him, but as he follows me i think, what the hell, it's my final night here so let's go. off we go on his bike at daredevil speed across the bridge and into (for me) uncharted territories to a rather seedy backstreet motel, where a girl is waiting. she is neither that young nor that pretty, really, but not too bad either, and she has a nice smile and for the price she is quite ok. the price, however, is now back to 20 dollars, but that is including the room and the drive back. fair enough, i thought.
we undress and go into the shower, where she washes me surprisingly thoroughly and then back to the bed. i ask her if she has a condom, but apparently she hasn't so she makes a call on her mobile and a rubber deliverer appears only seconds later. sex is bbbj followed by cowgirl and mish, and again quite ok, if not very long.
it is when i'm putting my clothes back on that i notice that someone has been through my pants during the moments we were in the shower with the bathroom door closed: my wallet is still there, but most of the bills are missing, as well as some other money i had put in various other pockets, around 100 us dollars in all. the bike guy of course refuses to understand what i'm talking about, and perhaps there is a 1% chance that he actually is innocent and not in on the scam, but with a bunch of his more obnoxious friends around i'm not in a position to argue very strongly, but just shake my head and realize i've been had, and by a classic trick at that. (i know, i know: never carry that much money and never let your clothes out of sight, but i hadn't been planning on going out debauching at all, and most of the money was still in my pockets simply because i had forgotten to take it out.)
anyway, the guy did drive me back, and said he was sad too, because "if my customers are not happy, it is not good for my business."
indeed
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I was just the victim of a classic scam on my last night in Hanoi.
So, did you pay the $20?
PorkLobster
10-08-09, 17:05
So, did you pay the $20?Yes I did, upfront, at the very beginning. It was only afterwards that I was robbed.
The girl must definitely have been in on it, but was still quite nice and friendly to me - a good actress, I guess. As for the others, apart from the motorbike guy there were at least two other guys, but there seemed to be plenty of people in the other rooms as well so it was impossible to point out anyone in particular with absolute certainty as the guilty party. Most likely, they were all in on it.
And what could I have done? Running to the police at midnight, claiming that I had been robbed by a prostitute and her pimps?
Ah well. It's another lesson in life.
Yes I did, upfront, at the very beginning. It was only afterwards that I was robbed.
The girl must definitely have been in on it, but was still quite nice and friendly to me - a good actress, I guess. As for the others, apart from the motorbike guy there were at least two other guys, but there seemed to be plenty of people in the other rooms as well so it was impossible to point out anyone in particular with absolute certainty as the guilty party. Most likely, they were all in on it.
And what could I have done? Running to the police at midnight, claiming that I had been robbed by a prostitute and her pimps?
Ah well. It's another lesson in life.Thanks for sharing that tough experience. Morale: If you deal with touts, the girl comes to you - not you to her. Follow that rule and you eliminate more than 50 percent of the bad prostitute experiences in Vietnam.
Member #3428
10-11-09, 07:21
Thanks for sharing that tough experience. Morale: If you deal with touts, the girl comes to you - not you to her. Follow that rule and you eliminate more than 50 percent of the bad prostitute experiences in Vietnam.
Gotta go to Hanoi and an ISG member I know pretty much told me to take a Thai or Filipina with me as the action is lacking or risky.
So... how is the tout delivery to your hotel? Worth it or not.
Hi guys,
Just an udate on the scene at Fortuna hotel KTV located the basement. Good scene. Don't agree for a girl to sit with you. You need to pay for her drinks. Ask a waiter and a young mamsen (madam) will come and sit next to you almost on top of you and ask what you want. Tell her! (not bad adds to the mood! ) If you agree to the costs, it will cost you approx 170. 180 US $ for a girl of your choice + room at the hotel. You need to pay another about US $ 35 for the drinks.compulsory. If you are OK the girls skimpily dressed will be brought in and paraded for you, don't be in a hurry. Take your time and ask for more. Another lot is brought in. Once you select a room is arranged and you go in. Girl follows a little later. Depending on the girl you do your thing. I found to be very cooperative, fake organism etc etc but willing to her best. What ever you want. Not bad! Good selection too. Can recommend for a night out!
Member #3428
10-11-09, 23:34
Hi guys,
Just an udate on the scene at Fortuna hotel KTV located the basement. Good scene. Don't agree for a girl to sit with you. You need to pay for her drinks. Ask a waiter and a young mamsen (madam) will come and sit next to you almost on top of you and ask what you want. Tell her! (not bad adds to the mood! ) If you agree to the costs, it will cost you approx 170. 180 US $ for a girl of your choice + room at the hotel. You need to pay another about US $ 35 for the drinks.compulsory. If you are OK the girls skimpily dressed will be brought in and paraded for you, don't be in a hurry. Take your time and ask for more. Another lot is brought in. Once you select a room is arranged and you go in. Girl follows a little later. Depending on the girl you do your thing. I found to be very cooperative, fake organism etc etc but willing to her best. What ever you want. Not bad! Good selection too. Can recommend for a night out!200 USD? I'm not a cheap charlie but jesus christ I can get a filipina or a thai girl for a week for that rate. Add some airfare of course...
Guess it's BYOB (bring your own bimbo / bar girl / or ***** you add the word of your choice :D ) for me next month for my conference in Hanoi...
While staying at the Metropole one night I took a walk down Ngo Quyen past the park and found a place with a neon Sauna Massage sign. Went in and paid 200,000 VND and took a shower. After the shower a good looking VN girl comes in and starts giving me a massage. Eventially she started working on my but, I flipped and we began negotiating.
I had thought I had more money that I realized and she made me empty my pockets and looked in my shoes and finally agreed to give me a handjob for 70,000 VND which was all I had on me. ( It was my first time in VN and I brought several 10,000 VND notes and a 50,000 VND note mistakenly thinking the 10k were 100k.)
I had wanted to go back and give her a better tip and negotiate for full service but I was unable to get back to that place before I left.
Phantomtiger2
10-28-09, 15:20
i was just the victim of a classic scam on my last night in hanoi. as i was walking around the old quarter around 10.30 tonight, thinking of whether to get a final drink or whether to call it a day (hanoi closes rather early), a guy comes up on a motorbike, calling "want boom-boom? 20 dollars? young girl. 15 dollars?" first i ignore him, but as he follows me i think, what the hell, it's my final night here so let's go. off we go on his bike at daredevil speed across the bridge and into (for me) uncharted territories to a rather seedy backstreet motel, where a girl is waiting. she is neither that young nor that pretty, really, but not too bad either, and she has a nice smile and for the price she is quite ok. the price, however, is now back to 20 dollars, but that is including the room and the drive back. fair enough, i thought.
we undress and go into the shower, where she washes me surprisingly thoroughly and then back to the bed. i ask her if she has a condom, but apparently she hasn't so she makes a call on her mobile and a rubber deliverer appears only seconds later. sex is bbbj followed by cowgirl and mish, and again quite ok, if not very long.
it is when i'm putting my clothes back on that i notice that someone has been through my pants during the moments we were in the shower with the bathroom door closed: my wallet is still there, but most of the bills are missing, as well as some other money i had put in various other pockets, around 100 us dollars in all. the bike guy of course refuses to understand what i'm talking about, and perhaps there is a 1% chance that he actually is innocent and not in on the scam, but with a bunch of his more obnoxious friends around i'm not in a position to argue very strongly, but just shake my head and realize i've been had, and by a classic trick at that. (i know, i know: never carry that much money and never let your clothes out of sight, but i hadn't been planning on going out debauching at all, and most of the money was still in my pockets simply because i had forgotten to take it out.)
anyway, the guy did drive me back, and said he was sad too, because "if my customers are not happy, it is not good for my business."
indeed
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unfortuate to hear this scam/theft is now happening in viet. as well. this practice orginally started in cambodia (pp)--read back on some of my post there as i'm a veteran monger there. only difference here is that the touts are on motobikes in viet and in pp they just try to rush you into their houses as you walk by. but once inside its the same scam.
pt
ReallyaNiceGuy
10-28-09, 16:13
My last day in Hanoi. I checked out of the hotel at noon but my GF wasn’t coming to get me to take me to the airport until 5 PM so I had some time to kill. Surfed the Internet in the lobby, got something to eat, shopped a little and still had plenty of time so I decided to try the VIP massage place at the hotel. I’d seen some girls that worked there walking around or standing outside and while none of them were outstanding they were OK. Went in, the 1-hour VIP was 400,000, taken to a room, actually it was nice with a shower and a tub, waited a few minutes and a young girl came in. She was wearing a loose fitting top and pants uniform, really cute in the face, a little overweight for a Viet girl but it gave her boobs and a butt, she didn’t speak a word of English.
She started filling the tub, left to get her supplies, came back and got everything ready, asked me to take off my clothes, she hung them up, told me to get in the tub, asked if I wanted my hair washed, didn’t really need that but I was going to use up the whole hour so I told her OK, shampoo then cream rinse then rinse, while sitting in the tub she washed my body front and back, had me stand up and washed my lower half, nothing exciting but she got me clean, rinse, dried me off and off the massage table.
Again I was in no hurry so I let her massage away while keeping my hands to myself. Actually the massage was good but by the way she was placing herself and my hands I could tell she was waiting for me to make a move, I didn’t. After the flip and some more massage she got down to it, she placed my hand on her leg close to her crotch and started rubbing my privates, I did the same to her, unbuttoned her top, lifted her bra, slid her pants down and then we were off to the races.
Not much in the kissing, the BBBJ was nice, she enjoyed having her tits sucked, her on top until she got used to an American dick, switched to me on top and because she was so tight it didn’t take me long to finish, we rested, we showered together, we dried each other off, she helped me get dressed, I gave her 200,000, she was happy, and a $2.00 bill, she really like that, she took my hand and walked me to the door and gave me a little kiss good-bye.
I was happy and killed an hour then back to the lobby to wait for my GF to pick me up.
Mike
At this point in my travels I was worn out and tired so decided to change plans and just go to BKK to rest up for my trip to the Philippines to meet some friends on the 1st.
ReallyaNiceGuy
10-28-09, 16:15
I contacted a few girls/ladies but only got a few replies, my profile is very clear that I’m only looking for fun, that’s why I keep getting deleted.
One reply that looked promising, although there wasn’t a photo on her profile, was from Fast Car, I later learned her name was Huong and why she didn’t post a photo. We exchanged a few messages on DIA, set up a time, 2 PM, to get together, gave her my hotel info and she showed up right on time. Things got a little tense before she arrived because my 2 collage GF’s showed up unannounced at noon to surprise me, it was a surprise and while it was great to see them again I had to come up with some excuse to get them to leave before Huong arrived, I got them out just in time.
Huong came in, OK looking face and body, dressed cute in a short little dress, then she took off her helmet, she had some weird haircut and this kind of yellowish orange colored hair, weird if you ask me.
We talked a minute and then she cut to the chase and said she offers tour guide, help finding clubs and nightspots around the city, translating and if someone doesn’t need those services she offers sex too. I told her I didn’t need any of those services, how is the sex? She said she always uses protection and the service depends on the chemistry.
Chemistry huh, well I really like having more of a girlfriend experience, explained GFE and asked if she would call her service like that, she said she would try but couldn’t promise it, OK how much?, she said 50 USD, I wasn’t really into her so I thanked her for coming by and wished her luck, she said how about 30, I gave her some BS story and told her that I’ve found that when a girl lowers her price the service gets lowered too and because she wasn’t a GFE at 50 it wasn’t what I was interested in. She moaned and groaned, asked for money for the motorbike, I gave her some and showed her the door.
And besides, one of my collage girls was coming back at 5.
Mike
ReallyaNiceGuy
10-28-09, 16:18
Before I got to Hanoi I took a look at CraigsList and after checking out the Erotic section, nothing that required an email to set-up, I checked out the Casual Encounter section and saw this ad:
"Nice, educated and funny single young girl, who is looking for someone being gentleman, respectful, easy going, being mature, but also enjoy life and have lot of sense of humour.
I am BBW with nice boobs, chubby and not skinny like most Asian ladies.
I'm down to earth kind of person, loving, caring, honesty, easy going, easy to talk to, funny at times and can be serious sometimes
Im here not just for sex but I want a friend with benefits, who I can have conversations with, enjoy each other company in and out of bed.
I'm just here for friends and fun, NO serious conversations, please. Don't bragging, I don't like exaggerater. No need to show off how smart you are and I hate stingy guy.
As I am so full of passions I'd love to be kissed, cuddle and feel your passions as well.
Contact me for face pic or cam if you are in Hanoi or have plan to travel by.
Once again I am chubby Viet lady so if you like skinny brown Viet girl, please don't bother to contact me.
PS1: I don't do sexphone or cybersex so don't bother to ask.
PS2: Fishing email, copy and paste email will not get any reply from me
Location: Ha Noi"
I replied with an email but it came back as undeliverable.
So, coping the text of her ad, I posted my own ad, “Where is the "Tasty Yummy Girl" I want to get together with you! - m4w - 57 (Hanoi)” looking for her. A few days later I got a reply from someone that said she was Tasty, you never know and it wasn’t important as long as she met what Tasty wrote.
We exchanged a few email, she sounded nasty, and when I got to Hanoi we talked on the phone. I asked what she was offering / wanted, she said she has 2 offerings, 1. Go shopping, lunch/dinner, drinks and spend some time together. 2. She’d come to my hotel and fuck the hell out of me for a few hours. I told her I wasn’t interested in shopping because I didn’t need anything, so how much is option 2? She said 100, I asked 100,000 Dong? LOL No, 100 USD and “promised” the best sex I’d ever had, yea right. But she sounded fun and interesting so I told her we’d talk about the price and a time later because I had some things to do, I have 2 collage girls I met and did last year, and would get back to her.
We talked a couple more times but we never got together during my 4 days in Hanoi, my collage girl friends kept me busy with sightseeing and they did need help with school funds.
I have her number and email address but I will have to email her and ask if it’s OK to give out her information. If you want to give her a try send me a PM.
Mike
My last day in Hanoi. and still had plenty of time so I decided to try the VIP massage place at the hotel. I’d seen some girls that worked there walking around or standing outside and while none of them were outstanding they were OK. Went in, the 1-hour VIP was 400,000, taken to a room, actually it was nice with a shower and a tub, waited a few minutes and a young girl came in. She was wearing a loose fitting top and pants uniform, really cute in the face, a little overweight for a Viet girl but it gave her boobs and a butt, she didn’t speak a word of English.
She started filling the tub, left to get her supplies, came back and got everything ready, asked me to take off my clothes, she hung them up, told me to get in the tub, asked if I wanted my hair washed, didn’t really need that but I was going to use up the whole hour so I told her OK, shampoo then cream rinse then rinse, while sitting in the tub she washed my body front and back, had me stand up and washed my lower half, nothing exciting but she got me clean, rinse, dried me off and off the massage table.
Again I was in no hurry so I let her massage away while keeping my hands to myself. Actually the massage was good but by the way she was placing herself and my hands I could tell she was waiting for me to make a move, I didn’t. After the flip and some more massage she got down to it, she placed my hand on her leg close to her crotch and started rubbing my privates, I did the same to her, unbuttoned her top, lifted her bra, slid her pants down and then we were off to the races.
Not much in the kissing, the BBBJ was nice, she enjoyed having her tits sucked, her on top until she got used to an American dick, switched to me on top and because she was so tight it didn’t take me long to finish, we rested, we showered together, we dried each other off, she helped me get dressed, I gave her 200,000, she was happy
Nice score Mike. First I've heard of FS Hotel Massage in VN. Anybody else with any experience, locations?
JD
ReallyaNiceGuy
10-29-09, 08:12
Hi Mike,
As far as I know, fast car said to me that you didn't give her anny money for motorbike taxi although she lost her time to come to see you, and she was little dispointed, anny way she enjoyed meeting you and having a little conversation talking.
I stand corrected. After looking at my notes again I see that I did not give Huong any money at all.
Huong came in, OK looking face and body, dressed cute in a short little dress, then she took off her helmet, she had some weird haircut and this kind of yellowish orange colored hair, weird if you ask me.
We talked a minute and then she cut to the chase and said she offers tour guide, help finding clubs and nightspots around the city, translating and if someone doesn’t need those services she offers sex too. I told her I didn’t need any of those services, how is the sex? She said she always uses protection and the service depends on the chemistry.
Chemistry huh, well I really like having more of a girlfriend experience, explained GFE and asked if she would call her service like that, she said she would try but couldn’t promise it, OK how much?, she said 50 USD, I wasn’t really into her so I thanked her for coming by and wished her luck, she said how about 30, I gave her some BS story and told her that I’ve found that when a girl lowers her price the service gets lowered too and because she wasn’t a GFE at 50 it wasn’t what I was interested in. She moaned and groaned, asked for money for the motorbike, I gave her some and showed her the door.
Mike
I used both services and it was satisfactory. I think you made the right decision about GFE. I paid the fee to give BFE and it wasn't reciprocal. LOL
Asian Western
11-02-09, 07:03
One of the things I enjoyed most about visiting Hanoi a couple of years ago was the massive pussy hair on relatively young girls. That turns me on. Anyway if any guys know of an email for a contact like that 18-25 age then I would be grateful.
Cheers / AW
My experience in hanoi's MPs was quite disappointing.
I entered a couple of them, both on AU CO.
This is a very long street along the river, full of nice beer-place, cafe, massage places and restaurants.
I was going around on a rented scooter, and in the section where down on one side there are several antique shops and MPs I spotted several other foregneirs on their scooter. I thought of some other tourists, expats or other better informed mongers. So, here we go, I said.
I entered a nice clean place. The scooter guards was eager to let me in, and inside a very nice girl welcomed me. Iced tea, smiles, chose the menu, chose the girls, giggling and so on, everything seemed good.
To make the story short, I chose the most expensive massage, oil, full body. The girl was very good, she asked me if I wanted strong or soft. My private parts stayed all the time under the towels, I tried to touch her, and she very politely small moved away, I didn't insist.
No big problem for me, as I have got, both the time, a very good, very relaxing, strong healthy massage, I think I fell asleep too, and waked up brand new. But sexually unsatisfied.
To summon up, not in every MP there is our course on the menu.
Enjoy
I forgot to say that on AU CO street there are a few restaurants serving dog.
Instead of going to MPs in hanoi, the action is in houses and hotel at the intersection between AU CO and CAU THANG LONG, just under the bridge on the east corner. Very pretty young girls. And very hot available mamasan. 40k dong for the house and I gave 100k to the girls.
Went there 2 times, basic room, complete service, BBBJ, and available BBFS.
The third time the girls asked "why you no go with mamasan? ", 30 something, big full breast, very hot, open to everything, long and passionate oral and sex (all bb). She only wanted 40k for room.
Enjoy
Actually I am not really speaking of SWs.
But, all over along CAU THANG LONG, the first 2-3 kms from the river bridge, apart for the plenty of hotels and house offering young girls for "masssage" there are several tens of open room, just on the street.
In front of these rooms there are sexy dressed girls, calling you as soon as you look at them.
I indulged maybe to 10 of them, in a few days.
Some are chubby, some very thin, some 30-40 years old, some too young to be legal in any country. There are girls type for any taste. And the price is always only 100k dong. (maybe if you speak some of the language, that I don't, or if you are asian, thet I am not, the price is even cheaper).
The price is standard, the place is almost standard (in every room you enter with the scooter, close the front door and go a room on the back, upstairs or in the side, with a bed and a small water to clean.
But the service is not standard at all. Some girls directly go to FS, some girls looked strange as I wanted the condom, some other girls just knee down to blow you till completion.
It is nice way to spend a 20 minutes, it will not be the fuck of your life, but still you go out with empty nuts and 5usd less.
Most of the girls are available in the afternoon, from 3-4 to 7-8, but you can find some in the morning too, or later in the evening too.
Example to follow
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1. 11 o'clock in the morning. West side
Seated in front of her house is a girl, she calls me. Get the scooter in, close the door, she signs 100k dong, no english at all.
On the chubby side, but young and smiling. Washed my dick and put me in the bed. Take off her nice vietnamese flowery pijama to show a chubby fatty naked body. Nice bbblowjob while I am seated on the bed and she knees on the ground. As I hold her head to go deeper, she begins making some sound. I stop, she ask to continue and moaning with pleasure.
Turns out to be a very submissive little sex slave, moanign with pleasure as I hold her head and facefuck her, slap her back, legs, face and even pussy, spit on her very funny and surprising. She didn't have any condom, and I had ti fight to wear mine. Left very happy, with her young big body red of slaps and white of sperm.
2. Afternoon. A house with girls. West side I spot a 20 something girl in sexy outfit. She turns out to be the mamasan and not available. The girls are 3, I go with one, she get naked to show the smallest breast, nice fit body I encounterd in a working girl till now. Big eyes, small pretty mouth. I am afraid to ask how old she could be. Very tight pussy, no anal, no oral, no kiss.
Come back to the same place, had an older girl, same basic service.
3. East side, near a very big internet cafe.
Older ladies. Lay on a bench-table, BBBJ till completion, naked tits to rub and available ass and pussy to finger.
4. East side
Same BBBJ basic service. Went beside a curtain. She get down on her knees, both of us still dressed. She blowed and licked like that till I came in the ground. For a second a baby came in to take a small school bag. Weird!
5. East side too
A chubby lady takes me inside. I lay on a bed, from the side she bbblow me very good. She gives her pussy and ass to my touching hand. But she says her breast is milking. For another 50k dong I lick and drink her milk, and get my dick drenched in it, for a long and weird blowjob.
These were only the most remarkable experiences. The others were standard as you can imagine.
I was surprised on the hanoi forum thread there is no mention of this amazing possibility.
BEWARE! Hygienical conditions were terrible.
Enjoy
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Daikon Man
11-07-09, 04:42
Actually I am not really speaking of SWs.
But, all over along CAU THANG LONG, the first 2-3 kms from the river bridge, apart for the plenty of hotels and house offering young girls for "masssage" there are several tens of open room, just on the street.
[/blue][/size]Hello,
I'm new to Hanoi.
I'm searching for some action, but all I could find is massage places.
Where is Cau Tang Long, I"ve a found a street in the old quarters but I don't think it's there.
Daikon Man
11-07-09, 04:49
I'm trying to search the cau thang street
is it here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=fr&geocode=&q=CAU+THANG+LONG%3B+hanoi&sll=21.038384,105.850503&sspn=0.092606,0.208569&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=C%E1%BA%A7u+Th%C4%83ng+Long,+Vietnam&ll=21.100716,105.797181&spn=0.023142,0.052142&t=h&z=15
I'm trying to search the cau thang street
Is it here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=fr&geocode=&q=CAU+THANG+LONG%3B+hanoi&sll=21.038384,105.850503&sspn=0.092606,0.208569&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=C%E1%BA%A7u+Th%C4%83ng+Long,+Vietnam&ll=21.100716,105.797181&spn=0.023142,0.052142&t=h&z=15Yes, yes, it is this.
Looking at the map I meant the part of the street down of the river (starting from the end of the river bridge itself to the first 3-4 km, on both sides of the street). The upper part of the street (other side of the river) is just family houses and massage places.
Don't expect anything clean and fashion. It is row sex, different quality, dirty rooms, some ugly some cute girls, but very very cheap.
The kind of wild dark side of our hobby.
I noticed now that the CAU THANG LONG street is turning very soon its name as PHAM VAN DONG.
Going on the street with your skooter you can't have it wrong, as it is a very big main road, full of traffic and trucks.
Hello,
I'm new to Hanoi.
I'm searching for some action, but all I could find is massage places.
Where is Cau Tang Long, I've a found a street in the old quarters but I don't think it's there.
That's the Thang Long Bridge. Part of the 'highway' on the way to the airport. The very long bridge. 'Cau' means 'bridge' in VNese.
JD
Went to Hanoi and I'm used to the talent in HCMC, went to Haolong Bay then our tour guide and driver said they knew many places for boom boom so on the way back to Hanoi we stopped by one place off the highway, Saw 6 girls playing cards in regular street wear, a couple of doable but we were looking to hit the Boss Club for better talent.
Got back to Hanoi and went to the Boss Club and driver told us that the police just ran the place and all the girls were at a different location "the waiting room" so we went there. The whole goal was to get a girl to my hotel w/o paying the BS fees at the door and in the club. Then was told they could not go out until 11:30PM, so I waited but the driver wanted to take me to Cao Thang street to have me look at talent there.
It's fine to go there to find a 6 to bang but the accomadations at these hotels are pretty dirty. Didn't see anything I liked, it was 10:30pm already and many of these girls had to be waken up. Didn't like the fact I would have to go at it with a half sleeping girl so I left. Went back to boss and the driver went in to ask for girls, then the people at the club told a different story saying I had to go in first, but admission was free. But, it was $30 to sit with a girl and $5 for beer. The club people asked what I was looking for and they told me no service to go outside. WTF, i'm sure if you ask a girl they would go out but no knowing if I paid the money to go outside and having a gurantee I could take someone home, i passed.
So last resort, motorbike girls. The buddy I was with found a girl and we headed back to our hotel I found nothing and decided to save my mula for another day. But the girl my buddy had said she had a nice looking girlfriend, so i went for it.
She was a 7 with a tight box. I was satisfied. but getting action was a tough job and not many places to go.
I heard a report about someone paying $180 for a girl and I told our driver we only wanted to pay $100 max/ per threads we researched here, but then he explained how some are more expensive than others. So the deal is every girl is given a number 1-however many girls they are. To keep things fair, it is like a queue where number 1 gets to go out with a customer first and it is supposed to be a $100 rate, but if you want a girl that is number #50, you pay more. Basically it is to pay to jump the queue ahead of other girls.
Not sure if this is true but that is what our driver said.
Anyone going to Hanoi should read this board, but I got to say, I did that and there wasn't much good news to find.
Now back in HCMC and found a gem at a bar. Didn't have to deal with any bullshit, with sitting fees and outrageous alcohol fees.
Happy Hunting.
Bartchamdo
11-12-09, 08:59
I stand corrected. After looking at my notes again I see that I did not give Huong any money at all.
I think you did the right thing by not going with fast car. She is pretty much the opposite of a GFE. She's not sensuous in the least. She treated me with all the sensitivity and sexuality you might expect from a baggage handler picking up a suitcase. That's not so surprising, but what did surprise me was her lack of experience in bed. If I didn't know better I'd assume she was brand new to the job.
In addition, she likes to play games with money, as many people do here. She'll name outrageous prices if you let her. It was annoying to have her go immediately to my mini bar and open an (overpriced) water, and then take a tiny sip and not touch the rest of the water. If you want to drink from my overpriced mini bar, can't you at least be thirsty?
She also lacks even basic tact. I told her to be discrete when walking through my hotel lobby. I reminded her of this several times. But sure enough, she walks through the lobby and says to me fairly loudly "If you want sex again give me a call." 1 - It's obvious and doesn't need to be said. 2 - She had already told me that just 2 minutes before.
In short, I think she just has no clue how to do her job.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, she used to go by the name of intellegent on DIA. She got too many people writing her, so deleted that account and set up a new one. She reads this forum - probably more often than I do. I have no doubt that she's read everything we've said and will read this too.
Chesterfield
11-12-09, 14:06
Check out the massage option at the Saigon Hotel diagonally opposite Pacific Place on Ly Thuong Kiet. Ticket is US$10 for the massage.
Ask for Mai. She does a great massage with a lot of teasing. Finished off with a fabulous HJ - left a 200K VND tip. She also offered to meet at a short time hotel for Boom Boom but the language barrier is likely to be insurmountable.
Also saw an attractive looking skinny number on my way out so will definitely be back.
It was annoying to have her go immediately to my mini bar and open an (overpriced) water, and then take a tiny sip and not touch the rest of the water. If you want to drink from my overpriced mini bar, can't you at least be thirsty?
I can't count how many times this has happened to me. Like you said, at least drink what you take.
Member #3428
11-12-09, 16:55
I can't count how many times this has happened to me. Like you said, at least drink what you take.
I've had many working girls tell me this is just a test.
Test if you are a push over or not and / or if you are a cheap charlie or not.
Some think if they can get to the minibar then you are a push over and they can pretty much control you. Other think if they can get to the minibar then you are not a cheap charlie and you will pay them well so they can ask for higher prices or such.
On the down side I've had one girl tell me if she got to the minibar with the guy then she thought he was not a cheap guy and probably nice person so she would give him good service.
So it is weird how different working girls look at it differently.
I always have a stop off at a 7/11 or market and buy some drinks before checking into the hotel. I've had some girls open the mini bar fridge but I've always told them if they want something just ask, Don't be helping yourself otherwise it will be coming out of your fee. I also offer them drinks that I've bought outside of the hotel. I like to treat the girls with some kindness but if they try to pull shit over me then they will be treated accordingly.
Bartchamdo
11-14-09, 14:11
I always have a stop off at a 7/11 or market and buy some drinks before checking into the hotel. I've had some girls open the mini bar fridge but I've always told them if they want something just ask, Don't be helping yourself otherwise it will be coming out of your fee. I also offer them drinks that I've bought outside of the hotel. I like to treat the girls with some kindness but if they try to pull shit over me then they will be treated accordingly.
There's actually more to the story that this reminds me of. I met her at a cafe before going to the hotel. We started to talk about payment there, and when talking about money she mentioned the cost of getting here from her house and how much the water cost at the cafe we were in.
"What water?" I asked.
She pointed to 2 glasses of tapwater that were on the table next to us. (She had been sitting there before I came in.) I didn't even realize she'd gotten them for us. I never drink Hanoi tapwater and certainly wasn't going to touch it. I didn't see her drink any either. I explained to her how absurd it was what she was saying, since neither of us had touched it and I hadn't even asked for it. She laughed and seemed to agree.
These little petty money games involving water probably were her testing my reaction. It's a very short sighted strategy. On the one hand she gets to feel like she can squeeze a few thousand more dong out of me. On the other hand the extra hassle and silly games makes me less likely to give her more business. End result: she misses out on hundreds of thousands of dong.
Chesterfield
11-16-09, 00:58
Brothers, have been to Hoa Binh Hotel on Ly Thuong Kiet and can guarantee a hand job is always on the table. Massage ticket is 110K VND and tip for HJ depends on your negotiation skills - 100 - 200K VND
There's another interesting option in Hang Chui off Tran Hung Dao. From Tran Hung Dao cross the Karaoke place on the left and come to the MP on the right. Forget the name of the place but it has a glowing sign. Ticket is 200K. Unlike most other places, you do not pay upfront, but pay after the massage. Also the doors are sliding and do not have the frosted windows so anything short of FS goes. Most girls here do not even do a pretence of a massage, preferring to slap you on the back a few times before turning you over and getting to business. I was allocated Nguyen - maybe a 6 / 10 but what she lacked in looks, she made up for in enthusiasm. 2 BJs in 45 minutes with great technique but no CIM. Also allowed to liberally feel her up as she loosened her top and bottom. She will not strip. Tipped her 200K and she was happy - later found out thats the standard tip but most girls will only blow you once. A word of warning - the place is not very clean - the usual wet tissues for wiping. But its the closest place near the Old Quarter where a BJ is always on the table. And 22$ for 2 BJs is pretty good value
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