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The Guy
11-16-09, 05:26
There's actually more to the story that this reminds me of. I met her at a cafe before going to the hotel. We started to talk about payment there, and when talking about money she mentioned the cost of getting here from her house and how much the water cost at the cafe we were in.

"What water?" I asked.

She pointed to 2 glasses of tapwater that were on the table next to us. (She had been sitting there before I came in.) I didn't even realize she'd gotten them for us. I never drink Hanoi tapwater and certainly wasn't going to touch it. I didn't see her drink any either. I explained to her how absurd it was what she was saying, since neither of us had touched it and I hadn't even asked for it. She laughed and seemed to agree.

These little petty money games involving water probably were her testing my reaction. It's a very short sighted strategy. On the one hand she gets to feel like she can squeeze a few thousand more dong out of me. On the other hand the extra hassle and silly games makes me less likely to give her more business. End result: she misses out on hundreds of thousands of dong.Fast car aka intelligent is a regular moterbike chick around Hanoi. Personally, I think she's scary ugly. She gets business due to the difficulty of those passing through Hanoi quickly to find anything easily. Those who are here for a longer time generally don't have any trouble, but it's a tough mongering city if you're just passing through.

Niceguy4
11-18-09, 10:43
Hello, Gentlemen.

I'm new to this forum and somewhat of a rookie when it comes to buying sex. I was curious about the Cau Thang Long women, I actually drove around there for two hours looking for some cute women to shout "Hello! " but it didn't happen. I was driving slowly, looking at ladies that I thought might be up for sale. I'm a young somewhat handsome boy so I don't think I scared them hehe.

Please tell me, how can I go about when I want a girl from there? Do I stop by the people sitting under the bridge at the crossing AN CO. Cau Thang Long?

To make it even clearer, its on the "Hanoi side" of the bridge, and the main street there? An co?

I'm really bad at this, but please give me some tips on how to go about finding the women over there.

Sincerely,

Niceguy

Chesterfield
11-19-09, 18:00
I am surprised people are having so much difficulty with this. Here are the directions clear as I can give them.

From the airport, take a cab / bus coming to town. Once the bus crosses the Thang Long bridge, keep going straight towards Hang Quoc Viet instead of taking the right towards Au Co. On your left on the opposite side of the road, you will pass a number of open doors, with the girls outside. Have never sampled whats on offer but pass this way everytime I get into Hanoi and head to town from the airport. Hope this helps.


Hello, Gentlemen.

I'm new to this forum and somewhat of a rookie when it comes to buying sex. I was curious about the Cau Thang Long women, I actually drove around there for two hours looking for some cute women to shout "Hello! " but it didn't happen. I was driving slowly, looking at ladies that I thought might be up for sale. I'm a young somewhat handsome boy so I don't think I scared them hehe.

Please tell me, how can I go about when I want a girl from there? Do I stop by the people sitting under the bridge at the crossing AN CO. Cau Thang Long?

To make it even clearer, its on the "Hanoi side" of the bridge, and the main street there? An co?

I'm really bad at this, but please give me some tips on how to go about finding the women over there.

Sincerely,

Niceguy

Bigfoot16
11-30-09, 08:48
She had a smile on her face in the beginning and I got a nice tour of the city and Halong Bay and a little sex. In the end she wasn't happy when I didn't want to play that game any more.

Member #3428
11-30-09, 09:35
Bring a girl with you... that's the best advice I got for anyone. I'm in hanoi for a conference, meet up with an ISG lurker who works here last night for dinner to thank him for telling me to bring a girl with me.

I ended up bringing a lady from lao (who I meet in Thailand) for the 10 days I'm here working and it has been great. While the Vietnamese ladies some are sexy as hell, there is shit to be had for mongering and not going to pay 200 USD for a an hour or whatever. 200 USD got me the lao lady for 10 days.

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12-01-09, 23:16
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Popp Master
12-14-09, 02:53
I was last week in Hanoi for work. One day I felt tired due to whole day meetings and went out seeking for a MP.

Asked a taxi driver where one can have a nice massage. He said there is lots of MP in the Giang Vo Street in Ba Dinh District. Asked him to drive me to there. He stopped at a MP joint at hotel Dong Do.

The MP is at 3rd or 4th floor; don’t remember exactly but there is a sign at the entrance showing you the way. Went up and paid 180K VND for 2 hours massage.

A boy led me to a room, quite small with a bed and a table. Inside the room there is a tiny bathroom with a steam bath. In 0 second a girl appeared. She looked quite cute, long hair, big eyes. I was happy with her and let her in.

I went to the steam bath for about 10 min. The Vietnamese steam bath always uses some herb leaves (citron grass), which is very aromatic and refreshing at the same time.

After the steam bath, she came into the bath room and bathed me. I was taking a site on the chair while she washed my whole body thoroughly.

Dried up myself and went to the bed for the massage. She did her job very good. I did really enjoy her massage. Her strength was strong enough. She started with my back and bit by bit changing to the front side. It was not her intention to perform any sexual actions. She even did not touch my dick. I then asked her to massage my dick. She moved her hands to it and teased it with the up and down movement. It was sensational to enjoy her HJ. After a while I was unable to hold and release every drop.

Cleaned myself and tip her 200K VND.

She gave me her phone number and I called her that night. Met her at a budget mini hotel somewhere close to the Westlake and had a very enjoyable sex experience with her.

She name was Tuyen. She is from Southern part of Vietnam.

Milkweed
12-14-09, 03:24
She gave me her phone number and I called her that night. Met her at a budget mini hotel somewhere close to the Westlake and had a very enjoyable sex experience with her.

She name was Tuyen. She is from Southern part of Vietnam.It sounds great. How much was the sex experience? How long did she stay?

Muzungufotsy
12-14-09, 04:26
Any pics of this girl?

Popp Master
12-14-09, 10:43
It sounds great. How much was the sex experience? How long did she stay?She stayed the whole night with me. I gave her 700K in the morning before we departed. Think it was reasonable although I have not mongered for a while in Vietnam, so do not know the price.

Unfortunately, I did not have my camara with me so was unable to take a pic from her.

Red Kilt
12-14-09, 13:02
Fast car aka intelligent is a regular moterbike chick around Hanoi. Personally, I think she's scary ugly. She gets business due to the difficulty of those passing through Hanoi quickly to find anything easily. Those who are here for a longer time generally don't have any trouble, but it's a tough mongering city if you're just passing through.Just to add to this "Fast car/Intellegent" thread.

I saw her come in to Highlands Coffee Shop in the G Floor of Hanoi Tower one day and sought out a guy who had obviously lined her up ot meet her there. She looked "scary ugly", and that orange colored/ basin haircut she has makes her very conspicuous. I watched the dude try to schmooze her with a large fancy-looking iced coffee plus other food stuff and then after around 10 minutes he suddenly got up and left looking pissed off. She sat there for a while looking around, including giving me a smile and an eyebrow raise (I didn't take the bait) and then she left on her bike, leaving all the stuff he bought for her untouched.

I would stay well away from her.

MutantChicken
12-14-09, 18:31
Just to add to this "Fast car/Intellegent" thread.

I saw her come in to Highlands Coffee Shop in the G Floor of Hanoi Tower one day and sought out a guy who had obviously lined her up ot meet her there. She looked "scary ugly", and that orange colored/ basin haircut she has makes her very conspicuous. I watched the dude try to schmooze her with a large fancy-looking iced coffee plus other food stuff and then after around 10 minutes he suddenly got up and left looking pissed off. She sat there for a while looking around, including giving me a smile and an eyebrow raise (I didn't take the bait) and then she left on her bike, leaving all the stuff he bought for her untouched.

I would stay well away from her.Well who is the bigger fool, her or the dude trying to romance or schmooze a hooker, a scary ugly one at that. If she is a hooker the only thing they understand is cash, and until proven otherwise I keep it a commercial transaction, I will gift some girls who voluntarily transcend the punter/hooker relationship.

Bigfoot16
12-20-09, 06:08
Well who is the bigger fool, her or the dude trying to romance or schmooze a hooker, a scary ugly one at that. If she is a hooker the only thing they understand is cash, and until proven otherwise I keep it a commercial transaction, I will gift some girls who voluntarily transcend the punter/hooker relationship.
I agree about anyone duluded enough to try to romance a hooker. I connected with her on Dateinasia and she was a great tour guide. I enjoyed her laughter at breakfast our first day. The sex was extra and she was unable to transition to the GFE service that I enjoy. I will let you decide if she is scary ugly.

Riverstar
12-20-09, 09:53
I tried "Intellegent" at the begining of the year and athough I agree that she not only looks odd but is indeed odd once she gets her kit off it starts to get a little better. I had a good time with her a lot of sucking and good fucking well worth it, however I must admit that I didn't go back in spite of her calling me occassionaly I think that it was her hair that put me off.

Explorerman
12-21-09, 05:36
Guys

With all due respect, can we talk about something else? The topic of this girl has been beat to death for probably 2 months now.

:)

Member #3428
12-21-09, 05:42
Guys

With all due respect, can we talk about something else? The topic of this girl has been beat to death for probably 2 months now.

:)

After going there and having to go back shortly, not much else to talk about in Hanoi :D

You can take a girl with you or you can risk a motorbike taxi. After coming down with a little nasty I can tell you the pharmacies are fully stocked :D

Mik Hcmc
12-21-09, 05:48
I will let you decide if she is scary ugly.

Looks like Steve Urkle

JamesBonks
12-24-09, 14:21
Unfortuate to hear this scam/theft is now happening in Viet. as well. This practice orginally started in Cambodia (PP)--read back on some of my post there as I'm a veteran monger there. Only difference here is that the touts are on motobikes in Viet and in PP they just try to rush you into their houses as you walk by. But once inside its the same scam.

PTHappened to me last night in Saigon/Ho Chi Minh, lost USD540 (no joke, I just arrived yesterday). I was mad like hell, she sped off as soon as I found out. The door wasn't locked, and I knew I'd been had. This really ruins my mood here, will be leaving for Hanoi tomorrow, screw Saigon.

MutantChicken
12-24-09, 21:40
Happened to me last night in Saigon/Ho Chi Minh, lost USD540 (no joke, I just arrived yesterday). I was mad like hell, she sped off as soon as I found out. The door wasn't locked, and I knew I'd been had. This really ruins my mood here, will be leaving for Hanoi tomorrow, screw Saigon.Guys,

I'll be brutally honest with you, back in 1997 when I was 19 I was a victim of this scam, now in 2010 if your still being scamed especially with the number of reported scams on the and other forums just like the thai gem scam, then you are and IDIOT, basically greedy and stupid, as it basically preys on the fact that a hot girl is offered for you for 20 bucks. And sham on you if your older than 19 as you should have better sense.

And frankly that stuff about it originating in Cambodia is a load of crap, the guys doing it in Cambodia are Vietnamese. There from the conflict wiuth the khemer rouge. So its going to happen anywhere, Saigon Hanoi Cambodia where ever there are unscrouplous guys taking advantage human stupidity.

The Guy
12-26-09, 05:46
here's the thread that jamesbonks is referring to:


originally posted by porklobster
i was just the victim of a classic scam on my last night in hanoi. as i was walking around the old quarter around 10.30 tonight, thinking of whether to get a final drink or whether to call it a day (hanoi closes rather early), a guy comes up on a motorbike, calling "want boom-boom? 20 dollars? young girl. 15 dollars?" first i ignore him, but as he follows me i think, what the hell, it's my final night here so let's go. off we go on his bike at daredevil speed across the bridge and into (for me) uncharted territories to a rather seedy backstreet motel, where a girl is waiting. she is neither that young nor that pretty, really, but not too bad either, and she has a nice smile and for the price she is quite ok. the price, however, is now back to 20 dollars, but that is including the room and the drive back. fair enough, i thought.
we undress and go into the shower, where she washes me surprisingly thoroughly and then back to the bed. i ask her if she has a condom, but apparently she hasn't so she makes a call on her mobile and a rubber deliverer appears only seconds later. sex is bbbj followed by cowgirl and mish, and again quite ok, if not very long.

it is when i'm putting my clothes back on that i notice that someone has been through my pants during the moments we were in the shower with the bathroom door closed: my wallet is still there, but most of the bills are missing, as well as some other money i had put in various other pockets, around 100 us dollars in all. the bike guy of course refuses to understand what i'm talking about, and perhaps there is a 1% chance that he actually is innocent and not in on the scam, but with a bunch of his more obnoxious friends around i'm not in a position to argue very strongly, but just shake my head and realize i've been had, and by a classic trick at that. (i know, i know: never carry that much money and never let your clothes out of sight, but i hadn't been planning on going out debauching at all, and most of the money was still in my pockets simply because i had forgotten to take it out.)

anyway, the guy did drive me back, and said he was sad too, because "if my customers are not happy, it is not good for my business."

indeedit's worth repeating in its entirety as a lesson to those new to vietnam. this is a remarkably safe country, in general. however, the cardinal rule is: never, never go into a house that a tout or bike girl takes you to. do it in your hotel, do it in a neutral "nha nghi" (motel), do it in the massage parlor of a hotel - but not in a strange building.

i don't like touts. however, whenever i'm tempted to let a tout set me up, i tell him to bring the girl to my hotel room. that filters out the crooks. most hotels will allow in guests of any sort until 11pm. if i like the girl, i dismiss the tout and tell him to wait for her outisde on his bike.

finally, visitors to hanoi should rest assured that most massage parlor employees would not steal money out of a locker. at least, it's never happened to me in countless visits. but don't carry more than you intend to spend.

Mik Hcmc
12-26-09, 07:00
It's worth repeating in its entirety as a lesson to those new to Vietnam. This is a remarkably safe country, in general. However, the cardinal rule is: Never, never go into a house that a tout or bike girl takes you to. Do it in your hotel, do it in a neutral "nha nghi" (motel), do it in the massage parlor of a hotel - but not in a strange building.

When people go on holidays they seem to leave their common sense at the airport.
Think about it, If you were in your home country and met a complete stranger offering whatever it is you were looking for cheaply,be it women, booze, drugs etc would you follow them? Chances are no. Yet countless people still do it overseas. If you must go to a place other than your hotel room do what one monger suggested, bring your clothes into the bathroom with you, bring your clothes out when you have finnished showering, roll your pants up and put them under your pillow. If the girl objects then that should be setting the alarm bells off.


Finally, visitors to Hanoi should rest assured that most massage parlor employees would not steal money out of a locker. At least, it's never happened to me in countless visits. But don't carry more than you intend to spend.

Most massage parlor's have the small zip up "bops"/ bag/pouch's for you to put your valuables in. If you can't see one ask. I've been to countless MP's and never had anyting go missing, Also I fold my pants in a particular way so I know if they have been touched, So far so good.

Be careful out there, in the end you are responsible for your safety

JamesBonks
12-27-09, 15:59
Guys,

I'll be brutally honest with you, back in 1997 when I was 19 I was a victim of this scam, now in 2010 if your still being scamed especially with the number of reported scams on the and other forums just like the thai gem scam, then you are and IDIOT, basically greedy and stupid, as it basically preys on the fact that a hot girl is offered for you for 20 bucks. And sham on you if your older than 19 as you should have better sense.

And frankly that stuff about it originating in Cambodia is a load of crap, the guys doing it in Cambodia are Vietnamese. There from the conflict wiuth the khemer rouge. So its going to happen anywhere, Saigon Hanoi Cambodia where ever there are unscrouplous guys taking advantage human stupidity.I would say the same to me, really f*cked up. I tried to bring to my hotel but wasn't allowed cause it was past midnite, being desperate and all, I gave in. I've gone thru this in Kuala Lumpur (lost RM1700 USD 500) in 2000. I tried to be as careful as I could but still shit happened.

I'm way over 19 and it a real shame.

Now, I got a good friend in Hanoi, he arranged for me thru a local website.

With FR from locals.

I selected a few from 3 starts to 5 stars (300k to 500k).

What could went wrong right?

He called the girls and they declined to come to Old Quarter, I took motorbike taxi (xe om) to town and to my dismay, most daily rate hostels are full and it's already too late. He apologize profusely and I had to take another motorbike ride for 20 minutes in the cold wind tonight, and I am sitting in front of the computer writing this instead of an FR. Can't believe my fate.

I'll be in Halong City tomorrow, wouldn't too much hope, alas I have to keep trying eh.

Cheers

The Guy
12-28-09, 14:01
I would say the same to me, really f*cked up. I tried to bring to my hotel but wasn't allowed cause it was past midnite, being desperate and all, I gave in. I've gone thru this in Kuala Lumpur (lost RM1700 USD 500) in 2000. I tried to be as careful as I could but still shit happened.

I'm way over 19 and it a real shame.

Now, I got a good friend in Hanoi, he arranged for me thru a local website.

With FR from locals.

I selected a few from 3 starts to 5 stars (300k to 500k).

What could went wrong right?

He called the girls and they declined to come to Old Quarter, I took motorbike taxi (xe om) to town and to my dismay, most daily rate hostels are full and it's already too late. He apologize profusely and I had to take another motorbike ride for 20 minutes in the cold wind tonight, and I am sitting in front of the computer writing this instead of an FR. Can't believe my fate.

I'll be in Halong City tomorrow, wouldn't too much hope, alas I have to keep trying eh.

Cheers

Don't worry bout it. Every world traveller makes a few mistakes here and there. Part of the game.

MutantChicken
12-28-09, 19:42
I would say the same to me, really f*cked up. I tried to bring to my hotel but wasn't allowed cause it was past midnite, being desperate and all, I gave in. I've gone thru this in Kuala Lumpur (lost RM1700 USD 500) in 2000. I tried to be as careful as I could but still shit happened.

I'm way over 19 and it a real shame.

Now, I got a good friend in Hanoi, he arranged for me thru a local website.

With FR from locals.

I selected a few from 3 starts to 5 stars (300k to 500k).

What could went wrong right?

He called the girls and they declined to come to Old Quarter, I took motorbike taxi (xe om) to town and to my dismay, most daily rate hostels are full and it's already too late. He apologize profusely and I had to take another motorbike ride for 20 minutes in the cold wind tonight, and I am sitting in front of the computer writing this instead of an FR. Can't believe my fate.

I'll be in Halong City tomorrow, wouldn't too much hope, alas I have to keep trying eh.

CheersAll I can tell you is never bring more money than you really need. And better to walk away. Because there is a possibility you can lose more than jut money. Secondly I'm generally distrustfull of everyone, and I keep and repeating that there is no such thing as a free lunch and that for every benefit there has to be someone to pay. Justa question of how much. I am also curious os to this local website that Fr as exchanged and organised. I know of one such site where girls are exchanged by PM but often they are scams. Ie the poster reports a report on some girl etc and saying he has her number and pm him for it, lost of pm arise often with no conclusuon or you get it and it turns out to be something other than what was stated. I mean you can even find that sort of shit in a local newspapers, that ie girls with phone numbers offerring masage plus extras. I don't trust anything. If you don't live here and don't speak the language just be skeptical of everything.

Bigfoot16
12-29-09, 06:45
I'll be in Halong City tomorrow, wouldn't too much hope, alas I have to keep trying eh.

Cheers

Enjoy Halong City and don't forget to take a boat out into Halong Bay and visit the Islands. It is inspirational. I remember it more favorably than my 20 minute fling with a motorbike girl. LOL

Mik Hcmc
12-29-09, 22:09
Enjoy Halong City and don't forget to take a boat out into Halong Bay and visit the Islands. It is inspirational. I remember it more favorably than my 20 minute fling with a motorbike girl. LOL

was that including the bike ride to the hotel? LOL

JamesBonks
12-30-09, 17:07
was that including the bike ride to the hotel? LOLNothing happened in Halong, but the rides and the view was magnificient!

Bigfoot16
01-01-10, 02:11
was that including the bike ride to the hotel? LOL
LOL No, it was our famous friend that I met on Dateinasia. At the time I met her I didn't know she was a motorbike girl. She started out as a tour guide and then converted to a money grubbing minibar scavenger. That all took place as I was showering after our 20 minute session that was all BFE. I didn't even get a BJ but she got DATY, rimmed and f....ed.

RonnieMonger
01-06-10, 15:10
This is excellent advice. And something I've done for years. You should read this if you're not sure about the game. Or world travel.


When people go on holidays they seem to leave their common sense at the airport.

Think about it, If you were in your home country and met a complete stranger offering whatever it is you were looking for cheaply,be it women, booze, drugs etc would you follow them? Chances are no. Yet countless people still do it overseas. If you must go to a place other than your hotel room do what one monger suggested, bring your clothes into the bathroom with you, bring your clothes out when you have finnished showering, roll your pants up and put them under your pillow. If the girl objects then that should be setting the alarm bells off.

Most massage parlor's have the small zip up "bops"/ bag/pouch's for you to put your valuables in. If you can't see one ask. I've been to countless MP's and never had anyting go missing, Also I fold my pants in a particular way so I know if they have been touched, So far so good.

Be careful out there, in the end you are responsible for your safety

Muzungufotsy
01-12-10, 03:01
I am surprised people are having so much difficulty with this. Here are the directions clear as I can give them.

From the airport, take a cab / bus coming to town. Once the bus crosses the Thang Long bridge, keep going straight towards Hang Quoc Viet instead of taking the right towards Au Co. On your left on the opposite side of the road, you will pass a number of open doors, with the girls outside. Have never sampled whats on offer but pass this way everytime I get into Hanoi and head to town from the airport. Hope this helps.Hello

I m planning to visit the brothels near cau thang long

Did you go there recently?

What is the best time to go there?

Is it opened in the morning?

You confirm thew price of 100000d?

Is it safe to go there alone?

Thanks

Biz99
01-14-10, 14:17
It seems that the Google Map plot is on the wrong side of the river and you need to be on the Hanoi side (I know this after wasting 4 hours on a scooter looking in the wrong place today)

link http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=fr&geocode=&q=CAU+THANG+LONG%3B+hanoi&sll=21.038384,105.850503&sspn=0.092606,0.208569&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=C%E1%BA%A7u+Th%C4%83ng+Long,+Vietnam&ll=21.100716,105.797181&spn=0.023142,0.052142&t=h&z=15

This link shows the airport side, but the good conversation is talking about the Hanoi side. My available time is running out and I need some help finding this right now.

Coming off the bridge from the airport you go straight - towards Hang Quaq Viet. I can't find it. Any landmark? How far from the foot of the bridge (Hanoi Side) to the brothels and which of the many streets am I looking for?

Help a man in need looking for brothel sex PLEASE (and thank you sincerely)

Daddy San
01-15-10, 18:53
Hi guys,

can you please suggest some decent hotels (with in-room internet, USD 70 max)?
The Old Quarter seems to be where most of the hotels are. Is that where the p4p is?
My Vietnamese is zero so I cannot correlate mongering locations given here with the town quarters.
I'll be in Hanoi for 3-4 days at the beginning of February to see the sights but hopefully also for pleasure.
Please help

DS

OzzieSuds
01-15-10, 20:30
Hi guys,

can you please suggest some decent hotels (with in-room internet, USD 70 max)?
The Old Quarter seems to be where most of the hotels are. Is that where the p4p is?
My Vietnamese is zero so I cannot correlate mongering locations given here with the town quarters.
I'll be in Hanoi for 3-4 days at the beginning of February to see the sights but hopefully also for pleasure.
Please help

DS

Try Heart hotel. There are several others on the same small street.

Daddy San
01-16-10, 17:21
Try Heart hotel. There are several others on the same small street.
Thanks for the recommendation.
I tried Heart.
Unfortunately their web site does not work.
It promotes tours, but no hotel info. Not a good sign!

How about Boss hotel or Nam Hai hotel?

Deptrai
01-20-10, 06:47
Try Heart hotel. There are several others on the same small street.This hotel I highly recommend. Service is very good, they hv a very experienced Hotel manager that can speak English.

The hotel is less than 1 year old and has internet in room, wifi. Modern furnishing and big big windows looking out to the street, on higher floor can even see Hoan kiem lake.

http://www.hanoiimperialhotel.com/trang-chu.html

Phaelon
01-27-10, 04:42
Try Heart hotel. There are several others on the same small street.$70 US per night is far more than you need to pay for a good hotel in the Old Quarter with Wi-Fi, flat screen cable TV, English speaking staff and a good breakfast included. In early January I stayed at Elegance 2 on Ma May Street for $45 per night and when back in Hanoi a few days later stayed at Emerald a few doors down for $30 per night. Both were spotlessly clean but Elegance had slightly larger room, a tub vs. A simple in bathroom shower and a somewhat softer bed (I found all the hotel beds in Vietnam to be a bit hard). Elegance has three other hotels in Hanoi and all are well rated and there are many other good options as well.

Scoubidick
02-11-10, 13:06
Hi mongers,

Can see a lot recentely but nothing about something interesting.

Got a ride along Tam trinh street, leading south. Along the way about 5-6 café ohm, 5-6 cat toi. Anything have pink lighting is about a pop. Girls 5-7 average small size. Go ahead, just go inside, its not places designed to die. BJ express, no need to talk whatever. Tip as you like 100k or 200 k. Tip or not the boss 100k. As long as i know, more you get rid of the city center, more friendly will be the people, definitely amused that an un-local want some viet fun.

Scoubidick
02-12-10, 14:24
Yet its 2. 30 am and you failed in negociations, stressed, by the time beeing, the city sleeps loud, you got still few options.

Locate the 108 hospital on a map, ask a cab driver. Cruise arround and you will be pleased to meet some BJ suppliers, especially is the public lighting is off. On site, in a dark corner. Damage is 50k to 200k according the little goat. Its safe, but not for the light hearted. CIM.

You can head south on giai phong, facing the train station, have some tam quat 24 hours open. Damage is 200k as usual, be friendly and smily, drink tea if you are offered tea, have a smoke if you are offered a smoke. Be nice and cool and you will get a nice and cool CIM.

Go to wander inside the boat disco. Always have chicks, but thats another storry.

Enjoy.

Asian Western
02-13-10, 05:27
I visited Hanoi, Win Hotel ($25 per night. GOOD VALUE) for six days last week. Relax Bar had very few outside girls which equated to very few foreigners. The employed girls are all long in the tooth and try to cheat you. "May I have a drink. How much?. 45000 ok go ahead. So they come back with 100, 000 fruit plate to share with other girls". Someone else lon this site listed many massage parlours and the like. Only trouble is they were all very different when I visited. Better that members confine to places actually visited. However on the flip side one of these turned out to be a gold mine it was 28 Hang Choi. I went there at 3pm in afternoon and found one 9/10 girl and three 7/10. I took the 9/10 girl her name was Cham pronounes like Chum aged 19. She let me suck her rather young breasts and then took off her panties and cocked her leg up onto the bed while she gave me a blow job. It was the sweetest and sexiest pussy I ever tasted. Imagine me aged 67 who can rarely get hard and even more rarely cum but she excited me enough to come in 10 mins with a very wet pussy. It was close to $50 for 15 mins total. Yes I could have bargained that way down to $20 but it was worth every bit of the $50. Later the next day I invited her to my hotel room for a 90 min photoshoot. I said $100 she said $200 and we agreed on $150. Yes pricy but once again worth every bit of that money to an old frellow like me. Licked her very wet pussy once again and she kissed very passionately too. Tall slim white long pussy hair a very good specification. If you want her number let me know. Quality is worth paying for. She put a big smile on my face.

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AW

Scoubidick
02-13-10, 06:00
Hi mongers,

Today will introduce some easy DIY.

Go to Hanoi Hotel basement restaurant patio at 11 pm onward, sit at a table, grab a beer and something to eat. At 11. 30 pm, the first karaoke girlies will start to came for their late dinner after their duty. Make eyes contact and the girl will have a talk with you within 5 minutes talking about how much you can trow in the game for LT or ST. They are 2 cases I could not work properly: the girl is booked already by her KTV client, the girl is waiting for her BF to bring her home. Both of cases, just don't insist, but yet they are versatile. Usage recommand that you offer her something to eat before proceeding to where you like for pounding. Girls are 5-9. Attitude is 5-9 too. None of them are killers in english. Usual damage is 100 USD for LT. Can pick one of them for regular, price will decline to 50 USD, then 500k. To remember: you have only 1 hour from 11. 30 pm to 12. 30 am to make a pick.

Johndao
02-13-10, 19:58
I visited Hanoi, Win Hotel ($25 per night. GOOD VALUE) for six days last week. Relax Bar had very few outside girls which equated to very few foreigners. The employed girls are all long in the tooth and try to cheat you. "May I have a drink. How much?. 45000 ok go ahead. So they come back with 100, 000 fruit plate to share with other girls". Someone else lon this site listed many massage parlours and the like. Only trouble is they were all very different when I visited. Better that members confine to places actually visited. However on the flip side one of these turned out to be a gold mine it was 28 Hang Choi. I went there at 3pm in afternoon and found one 9/10 girl and three 7/10. I took the 9/10 girl her name was Cham pronounes like Chum aged 19. She let me suck her rather young breasts and then took off her panties and cocked her leg up onto the bed while she gave me a blow job. It was the sweetest and sexiest pussy I ever tasted. Imagine me aged 67 who can rarely get hard and even more rarely cum but she excited me enough to come in 10 mins with a very wet pussy. It was close to $50 for 15 mins total. Yes I could have bargained that way down to $20 but it was worth every bit of the $50. Later the next day I invited her to my hotel room for a 90 min photoshoot. I said $100 she said $200 and we agreed on $150. Yes pricy but once again worth every bit of that money to an old frellow like me. Licked her very wet pussy once again and she kissed very passionately too. Tall slim white long pussy hair a very good specification. If you want her number let me know. Quality is worth paying for. She put a big smile on my face.
Interesting report. I am eagerly awaiting your posts of the $$150 photo shoot in the VN Photo Gallery.
JD

Riverstar
02-15-10, 06:10
Is it safe to assume from Asian Western's report that the Win is GF friendly I will be back in Hanoi next week to catch up with a few old girlfriends but unfortunatly I gave up my apartment when my contract ended back in October so need to find a hotel who is happy to let me do some entertaining.

Asian Western
02-15-10, 09:54
Is it safe to assume from Asian Western's report that the Win is GF friendly I will be back in Hanoi next week to catch up with a few old girlfriends but unfortunatly I gave up my apartment when my contract ended back in October so need to find a hotel who is happy to let me do some entertaining.Yes the Win Hotel will allow girls to the rooms provided they leave their ID at the reception if it is after 9pm at night. Some snobby girls wont do that as I found out to my expense.

Good Luck,

AW

Daddy San
02-17-10, 08:46
Ha Long Bay, the World Heritage Site in the North of the Gulf of Tonkin is allegedly truly beautiful and a 'must see', as long as sea fog allows you to see farther than the fingers of your outstretched hand.
In my case, unfortunately, this was not the case.

Getting there ( ca 160 km from Hanoi) is a 3,5 hr journey. A taxi will cost you between $50, negotiated with the Hanoi taxi driver directly and $150 with the hotel doing the "arrangements".
For the return journey, my hotel offered a "special price" of $190.
A taxi to Hai Phong, to catch the daily JetStar flight to HCMC cost me $30. The JetStar fare is about 60% of the Vietnam Airlines fare, but as always, you get what you pay for; more on that later.

The hotels in Halong City are many, in the high season allegedly fully booked, but totally empty in February. Beside me, there were all of 2 other guests in the excellent but not cheap ($100) 4 star Halong Plaza in Bai Chai, situated on the bay shore, just before the bay bridge.
The problem is, that apart from the Halong Bay cruises, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING else to do there!
Bai Chai is 2 km away and even there, the restaurants are about as inviting as cow sheds. There is even a "massage", with similarly attractve amenities and mongering resources.

To sum up:
From Hanoi, bite the bullet, shell out $150-$250 for an all inclusive luxury 2 day 1 night (on a junk) tour package of Halong Bay. They will probably bribe the weather gods to keep the fog away!
Whatever you do, don't do it the way I attempted, i.e. avoid staying in a hotel there.

UNLESS....:

As a faithful reader of this forum, I took careful note of Cunning Stunt's post (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=947487&postcount=357) where he praises Hanh, a premier local mamasan. On my request, he PM'd me her phone.

Having been assured by the reception clerk (male) of my 4* hotel that I could bring "friends to satisfy my needs", as he put it, to my room to stay no later than 9 pm, I called Hanh to meet me in front of the hotel in 1 hour.

Hanh turned up with 1 girl in tow, except for notably "big titten" totally nondescript, whom I rejected immediately. Not in the least discouraged, she got on her phone and within a couple of minutes another girl arrived on her motorbike. Even before she had removed her helmet(!) from her body language I knew, this was going to be FUN!

Her name was Chi, 25y, about 150 cm (4'9"), with all the right curves in all the right places.
What got me most, was her dazzling smile and her cheerful and totally natural personality.
Her English, which she had "learned by doing", is more than adequate for the job at hand.

After surrendering her ID at the reception and a refreshment in my room, where we immediately decided to like each other, she suggested a shower together to get acqauinted even better. Matter-of-factly she insisted on soaping me down thoroughly,everywhere, but with special attention to the regions halfway up (or down) my body, for which she used not only her hands, but also her mouth and tongue liberarly and expertly.
Once satisfied with the result, she demanded "Now you wash me!" I of course complied, which she seemed to enjoy, but did not hesitate to take my hand and "rework" regions, which she felt I had neglected.
In the course of such rework, my soapy finger, totally by accident of course, happened to slip into her rear port of entry, earning only symbolic disapproval.
Interpreting that as an encouragement, I asked, if she would consider having me revisit that path with another "tool" later on. She resolutely declined, saying "too small, hurts too much".

After a mutual rub-down, again at her behest, there followed an unbelievable GFE session, one, which I will not forget for a long time. The chemistry must have been just right for both of us, we just clicked.

Shortly after a very gentle and (I believe) mutually satisfying fianale I unexpetedly got ready again. I began to explore her body and "just by chance" landed at her backside. Undeterred by her previous rejection, I again asked to enter her ass, promissing to stop at once, if it caused her discomfort.
Her answer: "OK, try, but please be gentle".
There followed some digital preparatory loosening-up excercises, which she again seemsd to enjoy but when the moment of truth arrived, she was still quite apprehensive. Quite needlessly so, because, after quite severe initial resistence, which she bore stoically, the operation turned out a full success.
I'd like to think, that her's indeed was a cherry and for me it certainly was a grandiose fuck, making the screwed up (no pun intended) trip to Vietnam's north very worth while and indeed memorable after all.

Chi told me, that Hanh was a good mamasan, because because she took "only" 50% commission, while other mamasans often took 60%! In continental Europe, incidentally, 50% commission is also the going extortion rate.

Hanh had previously quoted me $20 for 1 hour and $30 for 2 hours. For her superb service, I tipped Chi generously.
Would I repeat? YES! but by that time I had alteady booked my onward flight for the next day, so the only thing I can do, is to wish Chi all the luck in the world and with her permission recommend her to your gentle care.
I also have some interesting pics of Chi, which I'll post when I get around to extracting them from my camera, but don't hold your breath

Chi's number is +84 904 631 669
And if Chi happens to be busy, as I hope she will be after this post, Hanh will be happy to fix you up, just call:
Hanh +84 904 990 464

Deptrai
02-17-10, 09:26
Is it safe to assume from Asian Western's report that the Win is GF friendly I will be back in Hanoi next week to catch up with a few old girlfriends but unfortunatly I gave up my apartment when my contract ended back in October so need to find a hotel who is happy to let me do some entertaining.Most people goes to Hanoi to catch up with a few Young girlfriends.. you are the first guy i know that catches up with a few Old girlfriends.

Anyway, if you are not able to get girl friendly hotel, drop me a line and I will help you book a girlfriendly hotel.

Johndao
02-18-10, 09:02
D Cups,
Why do you need to quote Daddy San's entire lengthy report in order to praise it? Just quote 1 or 2 lines lines at the start, no need to repeat THE WHOLE THING. Just takes up the whole page and makes everything more difficult to read. It's already here.
JD

Frenchie404
02-21-10, 16:20
here's the thread that jamesbonks is referring to:


originally posted by porklobster

i was just the victim of a classic scam on my last night in hanoi. as i was walking around the old quarter around 10.30 tonight, thinking of whether to get a final drink or whether to call it a day (hanoi closes rather early), a guy comes up on a motorbike, calling "want boom-boom? 20 dollars? young girl. 15 dollars?" first i ignore him, but as he follows me i think, what the hell, it's my final night here so let's go. off we go on his bike at daredevil speed across the bridge and into (for me) uncharted territories to a rather seedy backstreet motel, where a girl is waiting. she is neither that young nor that pretty, really, but not too bad either, and she has a nice smile and for the price she is quite ok. the price, however, is now back to 20 dollars, but that is including the room and the drive back. fair enough, i thought.
we undress and go into the shower, where she washes me surprisingly thoroughly and then back to the bed. i ask her if she has a condom, but apparently she hasn't so she makes a call on her mobile and a rubber deliverer appears only seconds later. sex is bbbj followed by cowgirl and mish, and again quite ok, if not very long.

it is when i'm putting my clothes back on that i notice that someone has been through my pants during the moments we were in the shower with the bathroom door closed: my wallet is still there, but most of the bills are missing, as well as some other money i had put in various other pockets, around 100 us dollars in all. the bike guy of course refuses to understand what i'm talking about, and perhaps there is a 1% chance that he actually is innocent and not in on the scam, but with a bunch of his more obnoxious friends around i'm not in a position to argue very strongly, but just shake my head and realize i've been had, and by a classic trick at that. (i know, i know: never carry that much money and never let your clothes out of sight, but i hadn't been planning on going out debauching at all, and most of the money was still in my pockets simply because i had forgotten to take it out.)

anyway, the guy did drive me back, and said he was sad too, because "if my customers are not happy, it is not good for my business."

indeed

it's worth repeating in its entirety as a lesson to those new to vietnam. this is a remarkably safe country, in general. however, the cardinal rule is: never, never go into a house that a tout or bike girl takes you to. do it in your hotel, do it in a neutral "nha nghi" (motel), do it in the massage parlor of a hotel - but not in a strange building.

i don't like touts. however, whenever i'm tempted to let a tout set me up, i tell him to bring the girl to my hotel room. that filters out the crooks. most hotels will allow in guests of any sort until 11pm. if i like the girl, i dismiss the tout and tell him to wait for her outisde on his bike.

finally, visitors to hanoi should rest assured that most massage parlor employees would not steal money out of a locker. at least, it's never happened to me in countless visits. but don't carry more than you intend to spend.the funny thing is i read this story before and i was telling to myself how stupid people can be when they get horny.

you are wondering how your money disappear? is this girl a master pickpocket? does she have a third invisible hand? perhaps i have a clue to this magic trick.

please find below the story i published yesterday in the saigon thread.


hi all,

i've been a long time lurker to this board and this is my first post. i want to share with all the mongers my experience in vietnam.

i was ripped by a moto girl last year in hanoi. not careful enough with my purse which was in my pocket. funny thing that she took the time to steal the cash (and not it all), leaving my credit card behind.

lesson learned, i will be less stupid next time.

i've just arrived in saigon. tonight a beautiful moto girl told me 20 usd for massage and boom boom. my bells rang all the warnings, it was too good to be true. but i like to play and she was very sexy so i said let's try.

we went to a short time hotel, i paid 50.000 vnd for the room. we get into the room, i stripped all my clothes, put all my money in my safety belt and went with it in the bathroom. she cleaned me quickly and there we are in the bed.

i put my safety belt under the pillow, she kissed me and quickly i felt her hands under the pillow.

i just say "no" and we continue. she dragged me against her breast and started to moan like crazy (i didn't even touch her).

things were very weird but my safety belt was behind me and i hold her hands. still, my spider senses rang like crazy!

suddenly, i turned back and i saw a hand coming from under the bed trying to grab my safety belt!

i shout like crazy, put the 2 girls out of the room, made a big scandal at the reception of the hotel, made them refund me the 50. 000 vnd.

so this my advice, fellow mongers: always look under your bed when you are entering unknown area.

good luck

The Guy
02-22-10, 16:15
Thanks for sharing, Frenchie. That's amazing.

As I've advised before, never go to the motel that the girl or the tout selects for you. These "nha nghi" are literally on every street, so you pick the place you want to stay. But personally, I think it's best to avoid street touts and motorcycle chicks. They are the cause of nearly every case of theft while mongering in Vietnam.

Pipo Laki
03-11-10, 11:49
on the way back home, we had to spend some time at noi bai airport.

in the international lounge, there is a massage parlor. it is a real 'clean' & 'neat' mp with everybody lying on the recliners/beds side to side so nothing sexy can be done, but the girls are really nice & they want more.

mine and her neighbour were litteraly flirting with me, after asking if my wife (who was 4 seats away) & i were married. they were speaking vietnamese with me and made several offers for more than massage next time i get to vietnam. mine rubbed several times her tits on my foot when working on my calves, keeping a eye contact with me. the neighbour was even nastyer giving me her phone number and telling me that she would show me more of vietnam at my next visit.

there is a changing room and they give you a tshirt & shorts for the massage. the girl is supposed to keep the door while you are changing, but "unfortunately" the neighbour girl opened the door 'to check if it was empty' and had a peek on me, and she throw her phone number in the room at the same time.

my advice: if you are a regular traveler

Member #2128
03-20-10, 11:59
That's the Thang Long Bridge. Part of the 'highway' on the way to the airport. The very long bridge. 'Cau' means 'bridge' in VNese.
JD

I am in Hanoi as I type. I have spent the entire day researching and trying to flind this location and what is described here. First, the THANG LONG BRIDGE is used only for motorbikes...the other bridge has cars from the airport. There are two bridges. The Thang Long Bridge is elevated and does not empty onto any accessible street. On the Hanoi side of the bridge there are markets galore, selling everything you can imagine and more, but no cheap sex.

I walked the entire area, back and forth, every block that I could find that was in any way near what was described here. Unless everything has changed since it was first reported----THIS REPORT ABOUT DOORWAYS AND GIRLS IS BOGUS. They don't exist. There have been reports about guys having a hard time finding this location and the reason is that it's not there. I walked up and down, looking for what was described here and there was nothing close to it. Shops and stalls, traffic, business and commerce active and busy, but NOTHING resembling anything like a row of doorways with girls outside.

FRIENDS, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME LIKE I DID ON THIS WILD GOOSE CHASE.

Tired and pissed in Hanoi,

#2128

Scoubidick
03-20-10, 14:01
Yes, 2128, thats a joke. Eventually Pm

Me, got some unexplored niches, but alone ain't no fun.

Chesterfield
03-20-10, 20:45
Guys,

The place is very much there but the directions are slightly off. Here is how you get there. If you are coming from the city, then go to Hang Quoc Viet. The road with the Somerset Hoa Binh. With the Somerset on your right, go to the end of the road and you will come to a T junction. Here take a right. This road is Pham Van Dong, which leads to Cau Thang Long and the airport. But the bridge is a good 3 to 4 Km away from the T Point and all the action is in the middle about a Km or so after you take the right turn. Lots of garages and pink lighting. 100K VND ticket. If you are coming from the airport side, cross the bridge and go straight towards Metro, ignoring the right turn to Au Co.

Happy hunting all.


I am in Hanoi as I type. I have spent the entire day researching and trying to flind this location and what is described here. First, the THANG LONG BRIDGE is used only for motorbikes...the other bridge has cars from the airport. There are two bridges. The Thang Long Bridge is elevated and does not empty onto any accessible street. On the Hanoi side of the bridge there are markets galore, selling everything you can imagine and more, but no cheap sex.

I walked the entire area, back and forth, every block that I could find that was in any way near what was described here. Unless everything has changed since it was first reported----THIS REPORT ABOUT DOORWAYS AND GIRLS IS BOGUS. They don't exist. There have been reports about guys having a hard time finding this location and the reason is that it's not there. I walked up and down, looking for what was described here and there was nothing close to it. Shops and stalls, traffic, business and commerce active and busy, but NOTHING resembling anything like a row of doorways with girls outside.

FRIENDS, DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME LIKE I DID ON THIS WILD GOOSE CHASE.

Tired and pissed in Hanoi,

#2128

Johndao
03-21-10, 09:07
Guys,

The place is very much there but the directions are slightly off. Here is how you get there. If you are coming from the city, then go to Hang Quoc Viet. The road with the Somerset Hoa Binh. With the Somerset on your right, go to the end of the road and you will come to a T junction. Here take a right. This road is Pham Van Dong, which leads to Cau Thang Long and the airport. But the bridge is a good 3 to 4 Km away from the T Point and all the action is in the middle about a Km or so after you take the right turn. Lots of garages and pink lighting. 100K VND ticket. If you are coming from the airport side, cross the bridge and go straight towards Metro, ignoring the right turn to Au Co.

Happy hunting all.
Yes, this area has been active for well over a decade and if you can't find it you are looking in the wrong place. It's wrong really to connect it to Cau Thang Long as it is Pham Van Dong and well before the bridge. Before he died a few years back it was all called Thang Long Highway, but then they changed the name of the southern part of it to PVD.
JD

Scoubidick
03-22-10, 14:45
Thanks guys. Anyway, after further investigation, this area is declining about this activity, yes for a decade, the place used to serve as money-poket-making for studs, but most of unis as been moved south. It has been relocated too and I just get the information about the area. I will try to find some time to double check before throwing in some directions.

For not posting for nothing, I just let you know some viet-fun.

With a motorbike, past Long Bien bridge to the other side. Drive north without turning right to Haiphong. Drive over a small bridge again. After the small bridge turn left. You should find a street named Phan dang luu. This street have somewhat like 10-12 mini-brothels for BBJ. They are not cafés nor tam quat: just mini BJ brothels. Girls standing outside from 1 to 5, depends the weather. Can get at 100 k or even 50k. Girls will be laughting at you in that far-east where you are not supposed to be, especially if you're alone. One more time, its bbj only, don't fool to have a st, you may be kicked out.

Enjoy

Scoubidick
03-24-10, 15:58
Explored yesterday a new niche related to that thang long issue.

We drove south on Nguyen trail for miles (the street start to Parkson mall and end up to Ha Dong City) about 5 km down south, the city reach its limit and make a Y. The street name going to the left (west) is Ba la street. Engage here.

After 50 meters you will pass a railway, 100 meters after, on the right side starts the fields, on the left side, have a area under construction. When you reach those construction works, there are 4 or 5 "café ohm" that you can recognise by plastic curtains as usual. Park inside of any. Behind, at 50 meters have a big Gna nghi. Choose the girl in the café, she will lead you to the motel.

Girls are 3-4 per café, rate is average 5, small cute viets. Ticket is cheap, 150k all included. The receptionist is friendly and smily, no tip, no wrong attitude.

My pick was a disaster, no skills, double covered, get my boy out even it had finished to send its load. Consolation: nice soft skin, nice tits. Overall a interesting experience and not really a disapointment, because we are talking here about 7. 5 USD for a st room included, it can't be always a winner. Will return try luck alone and report what append unacompanied. Let's keep good mood anyway, because 1/its safe 2/the hunting in Hanoi is fun itself due to difficulty of sourcing.

I hope some fellas will dare the game, if not it could mean I am working hard for nothing.

I don't know at now edit the google maps, will do for you one day if I learn.

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Scoubidick
04-01-10, 18:02
So quiet here.

Yesterday made a late pick-up along the overpass near Bach Mai hospital. Agreed on 200k for lham tim.

She lead me the way to a hidden motel thru an amazing maze of little streets.

Reached a large room 100 k cleaner that downtown NG. Girl was nice and tender, bbj, missionnary, doggy.

I shoot with a certain pressure wich totally sent the condom out of his original purpose. Girl was. Happy, strangely. Offered to sleep on the spot, wich I denied, I eventualy even don't knew exactly where we were. Advanced 200 k but she said she need 200k more to share with the receptionist. I agreed because she trully dint look like a scamer. She led me way back on central avenue and said bye bye with a smile.

Look: 6

Attitude: GFE

Skills: 7

Conclusion: 500k for a pop and a funny thrill. Hey, don't do that if you visiting Hanoi casualy or as a tourist. It's a report, not an encouragement.

Scoubidick
04-06-10, 18:14
Apocalypse now Hanoi reopen next Friday. Near Hoa Ma. Check a map.

Q club at Daewoo has been renovated to a Disco, numerous good looking Fls has been reporting dancing at weekend. I give up on Hanoi, no contributors. Here is my last post within this thread.

Pablo
04-08-10, 07:07
I finally had a free late night after having to hang out with collegues the first few nights. I went to 17 Saloon and it was a weird scene with a live band and a lot of pretty girls inside but most of them were employees of the bar. I was talking to a guy who’d been in Hanoi a month and went there a lot and he said the employees didn’t go with customers. I stayed until last call just enjoying the scenery and left.

I left and the first taxi driver didn’t know where the Hilton was which is just down the street. I’m guessing he just didn’t want a short fare but he seemed to really study the business card from the hotel that they give you to give to taxi drivers. So I went with a motor bike guy. Being horny I was stupid and took a chance with the motorbike guy’s offer to go see some beautiful girls. I knew the prices were a lot lower but was drunk so I overpaid at 500K. I did get a great looking girl but the place was super sleazy and pretty crowded in with curtains and you could hear everything of the couples next to you. It was sort of cool in a really sleazy way.

Anyway, the girl I chose was pretty hot, exposed her tits for groping and some sucking and dropped her shorts to her knees for some FIV action. OK bbbj, but she insisted on finishing by hand and her mouth was nowhere near when I erupted. Having overpaid at 500K (I know it was stupid) I tipped her only 50K which she wasn’t happy with.

The motorbike guy then took me to the hotel. Overall damage less than 600K but what the hell, it was an Ok experience.

Explorerman
04-09-10, 03:59
Apocalypse now Hanoi reopen next Friday. Near Hoa Ma. Check a map.

Q club at Daewoo has been renovated to a Disco, numerous good looking Fls has been reporting dancing at weekend. I give up on Hanoi, no contributors. Here is my last post within this thread.

Good to know. There has not been much posting here, but hopefully we can share a bit more.

Don't give up!

I had a good massage experience at the Hoa Binh Hotel recently, just on a guess that it might be good. It was. I guessed because it was the usual sauna/massage place, and more times than not, you can get extra with your massage there, though not FS.

Suzhou 1700
04-11-10, 02:48
Walking around the alleys opposite the Daewoo hotel off Kim Ma, there are numerous 'clubs' that are obviously aimed at the wealthy Korean and Japanese who stay at Daewoo and in that area.

They look like they could only be brothels, as there are many women in the first room, and they have fairly obvious names (like 'relax').

I didn't have the courage to walk in and ask, and was also worried that the price would be very very high, especially because the women all seemed like a 8 or 9 (out of 10).

Anyone been around there?

Chesterfield
05-06-10, 18:00
Brothers of the prowl - had a completely startling experience 3 nights ago.

Went out with some Vietnamese colleagues to a Karaoke bar on the other side of the Chuong Duong bridge. This road is full of Nga Nghi and Karaoke bars. Was shown to a room on the first floor and soon enough was asked to take my pick of ladies. I picked a 7 - slim with long black hair. Initially she would stroke my thighs and I would do the same. After a while, one of the girls dimmed the lights and the action began. My babe immediately put my hand on her left breast and moved her hand to my crotch. I sprang to attention and figured that a hand job was on the cards. I unzipped and she promptly moved in. I sat back to enjoy but to my pleasant surprise, the woman pushed my left hand down. I realised she was not wearing panties and began to explore a newly shaven pussy. So there I was - right hand on her left boob, left hand in her snatch and her left hand on my dick. Was enjoying the hand job for about 5 minutes or so when after a while, the woman stood up and took off her T-Shirt and bra. She buried her chest in my face while continuing the hand job. I was now rock hard and out of control. Then to my shock, the woman suddenly stopped, whipped out a condom and mounted me. She was very tight and yet nicely slippery. She rode me for about 10 minutes and I came. Noticed that my colleagues were in a similar situation. After we were all done, the lights were switched back on and we finished our beers. The cool part about the evening was when it was time to pay up. My colleagues informed me that the standard tip for this kind of service was VND 300 K (about 16$). I was pleasantly surprised and tipped VND 400K and left. All in all an excellent and completely value for money experience.

Brothers - only catch is that you need to go with locals. A foreigner on their own at such places would be ripe for the plucking as they keep bringing out stuff like fruit bowls and packets of chips, which they will charge for and which you need to turn down. Enjoy

OzzieSuds
05-06-10, 21:54
Brothers of the prowl - had a completely startling experience 3 nights ago.

Went out with some Vietnamese colleagues to a Karaoke bar on the other side of the Chuong Duong bridge. This road is full of Nga Nghi and Karaoke bars. Was shown to a room on the first floor and soon enough was asked to take my pick of ladies. I picked a 7 - slim with long black hair. Initially she would stroke my thighs and I would do the same. After a while, one of the girls dimmed the lights and the action began. My babe immediately put my hand on her left breast and moved her hand to my crotch. I sprang to attention and figured that a hand job was on the cards. I unzipped and she promptly moved in. I sat back to enjoy but to my pleasant surprise, the woman pushed my left hand down. I realised she was not wearing panties and began to explore a newly shaven pussy. So there I was - right hand on her left boob, left hand in her snatch and her left hand on my dick. Was enjoying the hand job for about 5 minutes or so when after a while, the woman stood up and took off her T-Shirt and bra. She buried her chest in my face while continuing the hand job. I was now rock hard and out of control. Then to my shock, the woman suddenly stopped, whipped out a condom and mounted me. She was very tight and yet nicely slippery. She rode me for about 10 minutes and I came. Noticed that my colleagues were in a similar situation. After we were all done, the lights were switched back on and we finished our beers. The cool part about the evening was when it was time to pay up. My colleagues informed me that the standard tip for this kind of service was VND 300 K (about 16$). I was pleasantly surprised and tipped VND 400K and left. All in all an excellent and completely value for money experience.

Brothers - only catch is that you need to go with locals. A foreigner on their own at such places would be ripe for the plucking as they keep bringing out stuff like fruit bowls and packets of chips, which they will charge for and which you need to turn down. Enjoy

Is this on the main drag - Nguyen Van Cu - or a side road. No problems sending fruit away.

And this is going into the R of D.

Kodanana
05-07-10, 07:11
Is this on the main drag - Nguyen Van Cu - or a side road. No problems sending fruit away.It is on Nguyen Van Cu and if you keep going toward Duong brigde, there are more and offer the same kind.

Some place are not but you have to go upstair to a private room, with the shower.
It's always better to go with a Vietnamese so you don't get rip off.

Those will not last long before the area getting more busy with office building and shopping mall. They normally move out further as the city expanding.

Deptrai
05-07-10, 11:38
Brothers of the prowl - had a completely startling experience 3 nights ago.

Went out with some Vietnamese colleagues to a Karaoke bar on the other side of the Chuong Duong bridge. This road is full of Nga Nghi and Karaoke bars. yThe one which you go to, from the Chuong Duong Bridge, is it before or after the big circle which turns off to Bac Nhinh?

Panya
05-07-10, 12:28
Hi Gentlemen,

I will be making my 1st trip to Hanoi from 16th-18th May, and have been reading up on many of your interesting and well-researched reports on the street scene.

I must admit that I am not that adventurous, prefer massage parlours and karaokes for my pick-ups, as compared to what's available "out there", viz. cyclo and street-side pick-up gals. Sorry if I have misunderstood, though, as after reading HCMC and Hanoi, there's a bit of confusion, but I think it would be right to say that P4P is not that obvious in Hanoi (?) as compared to HCMC.

I will be travelling with a friend from Thailand, and he insisted we stay at the Fortune Hotel, where there is supposed to be a mini-casino and also a karaoke downstairs. I have surfed a bit, and there seems to be several "local" hotels with really rave reviews. I am expecting that the Fortune is girl-friendly .. if not, boy, is my friend gonna get it for insisting we stay here.

I am really looking forward to my trip to Hanoi, as the Vietnamese girls I have seen in Kuala Lumpur tend to have the most delicious boobs in ASEAN and procelain white, almost translucent skin. WOW!

If anyone can spare some time to show me the ropes on a Sunday afternoon, I would really appreciate it ~ please do PM me. Thanks !!

Best,
Panya

Simian
05-11-10, 00:37
Walking around the alleys opposite the Daewoo hotel off Kim Ma, there are numerous 'clubs' that are obviously aimed at the wealthy Korean and Japanese who stay at Daewoo and in that area.

They look like they could only be brothels, as there are many women in the first room, and they have fairly obvious names (like 'relax').

I didn't have the courage to walk in and ask, and was also worried that the price would be very very high, especially because the women all seemed like a 8 or 9 (out of 10).

Anyone been around there?
As far as I know, these places and the one or two joints in the area around the Nikko hotel in another part of town are merely places where Japanese men like to go to have a drink with a pretty hostess pouring the drink for them. I have never bothered to go inside one of them - the entry price of one that some guys I knew visited was $100 per person. The only thing that will be massaged in such a place is your ego. Don't waste your time.

Chesterfield
05-14-10, 12:56
The one which you go to, from the Chuong Duong Bridge, is it before or after the big circle which turns off to Bac Nhinh?Its well before the big circle - on the same side of the road as the KFC, but about 150 m closer to the CD bridge. I checked out the action in Doson last weekend - 200K VND for a 30 minute session and a decent selection of 7s and 8s - unbelievable. And yes - its just 10$

Pokey Penguin
05-18-10, 07:39
I checked out the action in Doson last weekend - 200K VND for a 30 minute session and a decent selection of 7s and 8s - unbelievable. And yes - its just 10$

Hi Chesterfield.

Intrigued by your post. I have been thinking about journeying north to Do Son, but I've read some terrible things about the place, like stories of westerners being ripped off mercilessly and even attacked violently there.

Did you experience any of this? Did you stay in a hotel in Do Son or elsewhere? Did you see any taller working girls in Do Son or were they all 5 feet 2 inches or shorter like 90% of them are in the south?

Thanks.

PP

Chesterfield
05-18-10, 17:08
Hi Chesterfield.

Intrigued by your post. I have been thinking about journeying north to Do Son, but I've read some terrible things about the place, like stories of westerners being ripped off mercilessly and even attacked violently there.

Did you experience any of this? Did you stay in a hotel in Do Son or elsewhere? Did you see any taller working girls in Do Son or were they all 5 feet 2 inches or shorter like 90% of them are in the south?

Thanks.

PPHi Pokey Penguin,

I had gone with 3 of my local buddies so did not face any harassment but did not see any other westerners so am not sure how it will play out for a foreigner on his own. We stayed in a normal beach front hotel. Purely functional - 15 USD a night which I shared. The rates quoted (200K) are the same across the beachfront area and all you have to do is follow a biker to the main hotspot. There are some taller girls about 5 ft 6 or so. Overall, unhesitatingly recommended if you can dig up a local to go with. Not sure how it would be for a single foreigner. Did not see a single other foreigner in my stay there.

Riverstar
05-19-10, 08:11
Hi Chesterfield.

Intrigued by your post. I have been thinking about journeying north to Do Son, but I've read some terrible things about the place, like stories of westerners being ripped off mercilessly and even attacked violently there.

Did you experience any of this? Did you stay in a hotel in Do Son or elsewhere? Did you see any taller working girls in Do Son or were they all 5 feet 2 inches or shorter like 90% of them are in the south?

Thanks.

PPI was working in Do Son and was taken out by some of my Vietnamese work mates had a great time as they insisted on treating me. The only problm I faced was that I had three girls refuse after I had stripped offsaying that I was to big for them which was a pity as they were the bestof the bunch. However it was great for my image in front of my Vietnamese friends as the girls ran from the room saying that my cock was too big for their small pussys.

Pokey Penguin
05-20-10, 20:04
Thanks Chesterfield and Riverstar. I googled Do Son and didn't find much, but did find this troubling post on someone's blog:

http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/misola/1/1269523370/tpod.html

I've often wondered if the girls in the North might be taller than the tiny girls in the south because of more Chinese genes in their makeup, but still haven't found an answer. I should go up north and investigate but am still trying to get over my trip to Hanoi a few years ago where I ran into a lot of nasty people, making me not want to go back. And these weren't P4P people, just normal Hanoians. But maybe I was just unlucky, other people say they're okay.

Explorerman
05-22-10, 05:42
Thanks Chesterfield and Riverstar. I googled Do Son and didn't find much, but did find this troubling post on someone's blog:

http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog-entries/misola/1/1269523370/tpod.html

I've often wondered if the girls in the North might be taller than the tiny girls in the south because of more Chinese genes in their makeup, but still haven't found an answer. I should go up north and investigate but am still trying to get over my trip to Hanoi a few years ago where I ran into a lot of nasty people, making me not want to go back. And these weren't P4P people, just normal Hanoians. But maybe I was just unlucky, other people say they're okay.

I find most hanoi people friendly. Smiling makes a big difference. It may not be as friendly as other places, but I wouldn't say unfriendly. Sounds like you had a bad experience.

Panya
05-25-10, 03:43
I find most hanoi people friendly. Smiling makes a big difference. It may not be as friendly as other places, but I wouldn't say unfriendly. Sounds like you had a bad experience.

Came back from 2 nites in Hanoi, stayed at the Fortuna Hotel. Agree with Explorerman's comment, I found almost everyone in Hanoi very friendly .. from the hotel staff, to restaurant waiters/waitresses, people on the streets when I went walkabout.

Tried the Spa De Palace on the top floor of the hotel, and offered only HJ at USD 30 .. asked for FS and she told me not allowed at the establishment :( , but if I called her for in-room massage then everything's okay at USD 80. (NOTE : There's a lady manning the reception called Maggie who's just absolutely gorgeous ... I'd marry her in my next life !! :D )

Called for in-room massage the next night, opted to try my luck, and was sent a sweet-looking, slim one who hails from HCMC and spoke fluent Mandarin. Unfortunately, my Mandarin language skills were almost zero.

During the massage (which was really excellent!), managed to flirt with her and made her laugh at my pitiful attempts to crack a few jokes, through a combination of sign language and 4-5 words of Mandarin that I had. At the end, she pointed at my crotch and (obviously !!) asked whether I wanted relief, and indicated USD 100 ... !!??!! Whoa !!

After frantic sign language gestures, I was surprised to learn that she did not do FS ... after awhile, she relented, saying she likes me (oh yea ..) and asked for USD 200 for FS ... wtf !!

Why so expensive ??? Is it because of the hotel, and the fact that it's full of foreigners, and I'm a foreigner?

Later, checked out the karaoke at the basement, and the ladies were really, really stunning !! But, after trying for 30 minutes to get a mama-san to come over (we were sitting at the bar), we couldn't get any attention, and finally left figuring it's gonna cost us a bomb anyway !

Despite all these, in summary, I love Hanoi !!! ... and I think given more time, it's really a treasure trove waiting to be discovered.

Ladies are always smiling, and seemed to "give you the look" that they're interested ;) ... saw this at the pho restaurant from ladies who were customers as well, waitresses at the seafood restaurant just off the lake, office ladies at the place where I had my meetings, etc. etc. UNLESS my raging hormones were misinterpreting the signals.

Hoping to get back soon, and definitely will plan for more time on my own.

Best,
Panya

Pemcd
06-11-10, 04:42
Hey guys, my first report in hanoi. Am travelling with a friend and we tried to get some action. Unfortunately had no time to read forum somehow before the trip (my gf is mostly in my house at home, can't read forum at work, will have to read up fm hotel here).

Anyway. We asked a tour operator. Where we booked sapa and hallong trip (we figured ok, hegave us goods prices, sapa trip as of 89 USD, hallong as of 49 USD but we upgraded to better hotels and boat and ended paying USD 300 total with vio cabin to sapa, better hotels etc). Where to get girls and fortuna KTV was recommended.

We went there. Nice establishment. As per previous report mama san doesn't come to u. You have to ask a waiter for her to come. Many girls. Price is USD 35 per girl sitting at your table, plus drinks. If after 2-3 mins you don't like the girl you can exchange. Drinks USD 5 for a beer.

If you take the girls to room upstairs is USD 80 for short time. USD 120 for all nite at your own hotel)so 120 +35 + drinks for girl-you). Problem was many of the girls we tried didn't want to go out all nite (at least not with us) and there were maybe 7 girls who wanted all we didn't fancy and then left.

Overall place looks nice, quiete pricey I think.

We then asked a tai driver and he drove us to a KTV in old quarter. It looked like a full hit, ok girls, ok prices. 50 USD for 1 girl to sit with u, 70 for two and mama san said 30 USD all nite per girl in the room.

Unfortunately the girls then after a long odyssee of phone calls to mamasan, a driver showing up at hotel empty handed etc I went to bed unnerved at 3 am. A classic rip off. After 5 years living in asia. First time I got ripped off. Well we had fun at the KTV butr no fun after. 70 USD lesson learned. Will read the forum.

I think mamasan fave me a wrong biz card of the erstablishment called tando club. Address-map-picutres don't look like the place we have been. But who checks cards when in a place. She had written her mobile on there by pen.

Hope to get some action tonite. If anyone wants to pm me for a tip at hanoi, sapa, halong bay, cat ba. Plsd to hear.

Deptrai
06-12-10, 16:48
We then asked a tai driver and he drove us to a KTV in old quarter. It looked like a full hit, ok girls, ok prices. 50 USD for 1 girl to sit with u, 70 for two and mama san said 30 USD all nite per girl in the room.Pls dun ever again ask any taxi driver in Hanoi or HCMC to take you to some party places. You will invariably be ripped off, always.

Johndao
06-14-10, 02:29
The Hanoi Auto Show (last week) is a good place to see lots of pretty girls in skimpy outfits and take their pictures.

Viet Seb123
06-14-10, 03:15
The Hanoi Auto Show (last week) is a good place to see lots of pretty girls in skimpy outfits and take their pictures.Thanks Johndao,

Nice bodyworks !

One Wing Low
06-14-10, 16:40
Hi John Dao,

You took some very nice pics.

These are a few young, pretty, tall, leggy, good-looking girls. They should be available for dates and sex. Good Viet girls are too prudish. They dont wear sexy shorts and show their legs at car shows. Last time I was in HN, my contact rounded up 4 of these leggy models in short orders.

Meet with them privately, slip them your mobile number and ask them to call after work. You'll be surprised of the calls you will get. They would want to go somewhere discrete for dinner and party etc... They would know nice places to go around the Sword lake.

Being models, they would want to extract high prices for dates. In fact, they would want to extract the maximum amount of money possible from you. Try to keep ST below 1M and LT below 2M.


The Hanoi Auto Show (last week) is a good place to see lots of pretty girls in skimpy outfits and take their pictures.

Johndao
06-15-10, 03:24
The Hanoi Auto Show (last week) is a good place to see lots of pretty girls in skimpy outfits and take their pictures.
I should have written that I did not take these pictures. Apologies.

Atrinh83
06-16-10, 04:06
I find most hanoi people friendly. Smiling makes a big difference. It may not be as friendly as other places, but I wouldn't say unfriendly. Sounds like you had a bad experience.Yeah, Hanoi people are mostly friendly. I am living in Hanoi and I would be happy to help you when you visit Hanoi.

One Wing Low
06-16-10, 07:02
Will spend a few days in Hanoi in August, part of a large Asia tour.

Would love to hang out with local bros.

Please PM me.

Pemcd
06-17-10, 12:37
This is continueing fm my earlier report. After the scam at the KTV. Funnily enough next eve after we again endedup at same KTV where we got scammed the eve before, (my friend asked again taxi driver. Couldn't stop him.) fiunnily enough I know got the correct card fm the massage place opposite after we tried to get some money refunded or at least the promised girls delivered to our hotel. Please do not go to this place:

Khanh do. So 70 nguyen truoang to. Tel 38293205. It ios a scam, place, at least for us. They ripp you off for girls just sitting with ou and promise they will come to your hotel.

+++++

Finally we struck some good place (very local, very rundown), called as follows:

Nha nghi hoa dao (hoa dao hotel) at so: 22 duong ho boi (22 swimming pool road). 600k + 100k tip (I know we got ripped off but it was late) for 1 hour fun with cute girls.

I tried 2 more places in the same street, one at 46 to ngee van (called nha nghi van loi) and one at samew street at hoiuse no 23 or 22. The first place hoa dao hotel is justr 50 meters fm this place, so think there must be a new street name in between.

At the other 2 places had 1 hour fun for 500k + 200k tip. All over good experiences, I preferred the place at no. 46 and went there twice. Also open in the afternoon til late.

Pemcd
06-17-10, 12:41
Esalen3 is opposire Sofitel (think the plaza sofitel). Address shld be 6 nghi tam. Ticketprice was 150k but I saw some flyers with 50 pct off for got it for 80k in the end for 1 hr use of facilities (ok, but jacuzi was broken). Included in ticketprice was one hour really good massage. During massage she started to also sometimes grab my penis so I knew she was up for something, but only offered handjob. As I had just been to the place mentioned in my report ealrier on 46 to ngee van I politely declinded but tipped her 100k anyway. So total damage 180k which was ok experience. She would not do FS and said she cld come my hotel but only if I buy the handjob now. Which I didn't want. Cute girl, cute perky tiots, 20 year old.

Deptrai
06-18-10, 06:03
Please do not go to this place:

Khanh do. So 70 nguyen truoang to. Tel 38293205. It ios a scam, place, at least for us. They ripp you off for girls just sitting with ou and promise they will come to your hotel.70 Nguyen Truong To has been scamming quite a few foreign visitors. They apparently have an arrangement with crooked taxi drivers to bring highly intelligent foreigners who asked Taxi drivers to recommend party places to take them directly to this scam place. There was a time some people PM (in another Forum, not this one) to me and arrange to meet me in Hanoi so that I could take them to party places. These people arrived, checked in, jumped into a taxi and asked taxi driver to bring them to party places. They did not call me, until 1am, they finally called me to tell me that they are stuck at 70 Nguyen Truong To, 4 of them, with a bill of US$300 and asked me if I could save them.

The Guy
06-19-10, 00:58
Esalen3 is opposire Sofitel (think the plaza sofitel). Address shld be 6 nghi tam. Ticketprice was 150k but I saw some flyers with 50 pct off for got it for 80k in the end for 1 hr use of facilities (ok, but jacuzi was broken). Included in ticketprice was one hour really good massage. During massage she started to also sometimes grab my penis so I knew she was up for something, but only offered handjob. As I had just been to the place mentioned in my report ealrier on 46 to ngee van I politely declinded but tipped her 100k anyway. So total damage 180k which was ok experience. She would not do FS and said she cld come my hotel but only if I buy the handjob now. Which I didn't want. Cute girl, cute perky tiots, 20 year old.

I always like the place and usually pay only 75,000 since I get a half price coupon after the previous visit. Girls tend to be 6-8, occasional 9, so rather attractive for a massage place. Just hand job and the rooms have a window. Local guys tip 50,000-150,000 for HJ with very good service.

The girls might try to squeeze a foreigner for more. My advice: Never agree to an amount until after the HJ and never tip beyond 200,000 here. After 200,000 is where generous becomes sucker, in their eyes. Some of the girls are willing to give out phone numbers and make private arrangements. Bring your phone into the massage so you can get the number.

Johndao
06-23-10, 19:18
A few more of the pretty Viet ladies who decorated the Hanoi Auto Show two weeks ago.

Crazy Monger76
07-03-10, 16:59
Spent a few days in Hanoi and wanted to try the action. Have read about Relax bar. A total miss as the girls there just want you to drink and dont go "out".

Remembered a report on MP. Decided to try massage parlor in Dong Do Hotel, Giang Vo road (same stretch as Fortuna hotel). Massage is in 4th floor. Massage cost VD 150000. Asked for Tyuen. Did an ok massage and happy ending with VD 200000 tip. Didnt allow touch and BBBJ in the place. Got her number. Would give her look a 6 but suspected she had "oversized" bra as shape too perfect.

Next day tried MP in 28th Hang Chuoi (also read in the forum). Location is walking distance from Hilton Opera hotel. Went there about 3pm and asked for Chum but they didnt understand or she wasnt there. Couldt speak English at all. MP on left side of KTV but "connected". Communicated with writing and signs. They wanted VD 400000 for massage 1 hr and i said no fucking way. Negotiated for a while until we reached 150000. First a "no-go" for me came in and i sent her out again and wanted the good looking one. Saw one cute on the way in about 22 yrs. Just straight to it and said i wanted service. Didnt really want massage. I underessed her fully, but she didnt want FS. Only BBBJ, but i fingered her pussy. She wanted 500000 for BBBJ and to undress completely and let me finger her (she told me she was married and showed the ring :) )

In the evening i agreed to go Dong Do again for Tuyen as her "last" customer at 22:30. First dropped by KTV in Fortuna. Quite many good looking girls and available for ST. Decided to try this hotel for next visit.

Went to Dong do after a few drinks and had my massage but no happy ending as we agreed going short time hotel close and across the street of Dong Do. Finished massage a little before 23:30 and i waited downstairs in the lobby. At 23:45 all the girls shift is over and they came down and out of the lift. Noticed a few others that are more beatiful, 10 girls. A little akward when the kid of Tuyen also came when she finished her shift and she send him away with another girl. Away we went. Paid 150000 for short time hotel. The FS was not impressive and she had very small tits as i suspected. She was tired after her shift and i didnt get that turned on of her. Finished deep and paid her 500000.

All in all i was tired to spend effort looking and achieve nothing.

Will try next time the stretch at Pham Van Dong road passing Hyunday motor and Metro supermarket.

Johndao
07-05-10, 03:53
Spent a few days in Hanoi and wanted to try the action. Have read about Relax bar. A total miss as the girls there just want you to drink and dont go "out".

Remembered a report on MP. Decided to try massage parlor in Dong Do Hotel, Giang Vo road (same stretch as Fortuna hotel). Massage is in 4th floor. Massage cost VD 150000. Asked for Tyuen. Did an ok massage and happy ending with VD 200000 tip. Didnt allow touch and BBBJ in the place. Got her number. Would give her look a 6 but suspected she had "oversized" bra as shape too perfect.

Next day tried MP in 28th Hang Chuoi (also read in the forum). Location is walking distance from Hilton Opera hotel. Went there about 3pm and asked for Chum but they didnt understand or she wasnt there. Couldt speak English at all. MP on left side of KTV but "connected". Communicated with writing and signs. They wanted VD 400000 for massage 1 hr and i said no fucking way. Negotiated for a while until we reached 150000. First a "no-go" for me came in and i sent her out again and wanted the good looking one. Saw one cute on the way in about 22 yrs. Just straight to it and said i wanted service. Didnt really want massage. I underessed her fully, but she didnt want FS. Only BBBJ, but i fingered her pussy. She wanted 500000 for BBBJ and to undress completely and let me finger her (she told me she was married and showed the ring :) )

In the evening i agreed to go Dong Do again for Tuyen as her "last" customer at 22:30. First dropped by KTV in Fortuna. Quite many good looking girls and available for ST. Decided to try this hotel for next visit.

Went to Dong do after a few drinks and had my massage but no happy ending as we agreed going short time hotel close and across the street of Dong Do. Finished massage a little before 23:30 and i waited downstairs in the lobby. At 23:45 all the girls shift is over and they came down and out of the lift. Noticed a few others that are more beatiful, 10 girls. A little akward when the kid of Tuyen also came when she finished her shift and she send him away with another girl. Away we went. Paid 150000 for short time hotel. The FS was not impressive and she had very small tits as i suspected. She was tired after her shift and i didnt get that turned on of her. Finished deep and paid her 500000.

All in all i was tired to spend effort looking and achieve nothing.

Will try next time the stretch at Pham Van Dong road passing Hyunday motor and Metro supermarket.
Very accurate report on the absolutely dismal scene in Hanoi for newbies and tourists. For those who live there of course it is a treasure trove of constant wonders, especially if you know how to speak some Vietnamese. Well, that's the design, and unlike other things, it works quite well.
JD

Hasan2502
07-05-10, 05:50
Hi,

I was in Hanoi last month and had one of the contacts established on Tagged one day. Didn't want any money but I paid her 60 $. Then on the second night went to the bar in the basement and found lots of nice girls looking for customers. In fact, one of them caught me by the arm and took me out of the room to discuss this. She wanted 100 $ and I said no. The next night the same girl agreed on 50 dollars and place was hers. A small hotel near Sheraton. Sheratn does not let any guests upstairs after 9 pm.

Also went to Indara Massage close to Sheraton. They have pretty girls but only massage for 20 $ and that with clothes on. FS was available for 200 $.


Spent a few days in Hanoi and wanted to try the action. Have read about Relax bar. A total miss as the girls there just want you to drink and dont go "out".

Remembered a report on MP. Decided to try massage parlor in Dong Do Hotel, Giang Vo road (same stretch as Fortuna hotel). Massage is in 4th floor. Massage cost VD 150000. Asked for Tyuen. Did an ok massage and happy ending with VD 200000 tip. Didnt allow touch and BBBJ in the place. Got her number. Would give her look a 6 but suspected she had "oversized" bra as shape too perfect.

Next day tried MP in 28th Hang Chuoi (also read in the forum). Location is walking distance from Hilton Opera hotel. Went there about 3pm and asked for Chum but they didnt understand or she wasnt there. Couldt speak English at all. MP on left side of KTV but "connected". Communicated with writing and signs. They wanted VD 400000 for massage 1 hr and i said no fucking way. Negotiated for a while until we reached 150000. First a "no-go" for me came in and i sent her out again and wanted the good looking one. Saw one cute on the way in about 22 yrs. Just straight to it and said i wanted service. Didnt really want massage. I underessed her fully, but she didnt want FS. Only BBBJ, but i fingered her pussy. She wanted 500000 for BBBJ and to undress completely and let me finger her (she told me she was married and showed the ring :) )

In the evening i agreed to go Dong Do again for Tuyen as her "last" customer at 22:30. First dropped by KTV in Fortuna. Quite many good looking girls and available for ST. Decided to try this hotel for next visit.

Went to Dong do after a few drinks and had my massage but no happy ending as we agreed going short time hotel close and across the street of Dong Do. Finished massage a little before 23:30 and i waited downstairs in the lobby. At 23:45 all the girls shift is over and they came down and out of the lift. Noticed a few others that are more beatiful, 10 girls. A little akward when the kid of Tuyen also came when she finished her shift and she send him away with another girl. Away we went. Paid 150000 for short time hotel. The FS was not impressive and she had very small tits as i suspected. She was tired after her shift and i didnt get that turned on of her. Finished deep and paid her 500000.

All in all i was tired to spend effort looking and achieve nothing.

Will try next time the stretch at Pham Van Dong road passing Hyunday motor and Metro supermarket.

Diabolic08
07-27-10, 04:02
Hi guys,

I am traveling to Hanoi for the first time and would like to know if any one can give me some contacts for a girl companion for the entire day who will show me around Hanoi and then stay with me for the night one who can speak english and is fun to be with. I know I am asking for too much but I don't mind paying for it if it costs much. Which hotel do you suggest to stay 4-5 *

Thanks in advance

Blackfootballer
07-27-10, 07:36
Hey, I think you can contact some girl on DIA, and contact fast car is good, for the hotel to stay I think HILTON HANOI will be good, she doesn't mind show you arround and spend night with you as long as you can pay her well, I hope my advice will be ok for you.

MutantChicken
07-30-10, 07:57
Hey, I think you can contact some girl on DIA, and contact fast car is good, for the hotel to stay I think HILTON HANOI will be good, she doesn't mind show you arround and spend night with you as long as you can pay her well, I hope my advice will be ok for you.Hahahha look back in the history and you will see DIAfast car is a ugly unsavory unlady like female. Proceed at your own risk.

Shivajii
08-07-10, 16:20
Arrived in Hanoi a few days ago. Walked around Old Town /Hoan Kiem and was approached by a (quite nice) lady. Obviously driven round by her pimp friend. Asked 500. 000ST came down to 400. 000. I did not catch. A little later another lady on a bike 30US$ ST. A little older but ok looking. Approached me again the following day.

What I actually wanted to say (besides thanks to to forum). After rtff I went for a massage to Saigon Hotel. 30+ lady, good body. 10US$ 1h Massage. After a nice back massage she came to terms. HJ (forgot what she asked first) BJ 50US$. Got her down to 400. 000VT while she was already showing her BJ skills.

Fingering pussy ok. No kissing.

Explorerman
08-13-10, 11:28
Hahahha look back in the history and you will see DIAfast car is a ugly unsavory unlady like female. Proceed at your own risk.

Please, let's not talk about her any more. Already so much....

There are far better ladies in town, and far better things to discuss. :)

I would suggest DIA or Tagged, and just find someone friendly. Likely to get lucky.

Atrinh83
08-14-10, 08:32
If you guys visit Hanoi next time, you may try out some massage parlours. ften you can have HJ/BJ. Ticket price: 150k-200k. Tip: 100k-200k. If you give more tips, you may receive special treatment.

Some girls offer CIM, as follows:

1. em Ngọc Hậu Giang, 351 thuỵ khuê
2. em Thanh, 246 Thuỵ khuê, quán Girlxinh.
3. em Trang, em Lan, Quán tắm thuốc, 61 đốc ngữ
4. em Chi, em Ly, em Trang (sinh năm 94), quán Thuỷ tiên, 96 Trần Nhật Duật.
5. Em Hương và em Mai, quán 183 Định Công

Just ask the taxi driver for direction.


Arrived in Hanoi a few days ago. Walked around Old Town /Hoan Kiem and was approached by a (quite nice) lady. Obviously driven round by her pimp friend. Asked 500. 000ST came down to 400. 000. I did not catch. A little later another lady on a bike 30US$ ST. A little older but ok looking. Approached me again the following day.

What I actually wanted to say (besides thanks to to forum). After rtff I went for a massage to Saigon Hotel. 30+ lady, good body. 10US$ 1h Massage. After a nice back massage she came to terms. HJ (forgot what she asked first) BJ 50US$. Got her down to 400. 000VT while she was already showing her BJ skills.

Fingering pussy ok. No kissing.

Explorerman
08-19-10, 10:53
If you guys visit Hanoi next time, you may try out some massage parlours. ften you can have HJ/BJ. Ticket price: 150k-200k. Tip: 100k-200k. If you give more tips, you may receive special treatment.

Some girls offer CIM, as follows:

1. em Ngọc Hậu Giang, 351 thuỵ khuê
2. em Thanh, 246 Thuỵ khuê, quán Girlxinh.
3. em Trang, em Lan, Quán tắm thuốc, 61 đốc ngữ
4. em Chi, em Ly, em Trang (sinh năm 94), quán Thuỷ tiên, 96 Trần Nhật Duật.
5. Em Hương và em Mai, quán 183 Định Công

Just ask the taxi driver for direction.

In general, what District are those in?

The Guy
08-25-10, 19:16
If you guys visit Hanoi next time, you may try out some massage parlours. ften you can have HJ/BJ. Ticket price: 150k-200k. Tip: 100k-200k. If you give more tips, you may receive special treatment.

Some girls offer CIM, as follows:

1. em Ngọc Hậu Giang, 351 thuỵ khuê
2. em Thanh, 246 Thuỵ khuê, quán Girlxinh.
3. em Trang, em Lan, Quán tắm thuốc, 61 đốc ngữ
4. em Chi, em Ly, em Trang (sinh năm 94), quán Thuỷ tiên, 96 Trần Nhật Duật.
5. Em Hương và em Mai, quán 183 Định Công

Just ask the taxi driver for direction.

Just keep in mind these aren't the cleanest places on Earth. you might be separated by the next guy by a curtain. A local (or foreigner in the know) wouldn't pay more than 100,000 for the ticket, 100,000 tip. Cheap but not my thing.

The Guy
08-25-10, 19:19
Hey, I think you can contact some girl on DIA, and contact fast car is good, for the hotel to stay I think HILTON HANOI will be good, she doesn't mind show you arround and spend night with you as long as you can pay her well, I hope my advice will be ok for you.

Blackfootballer aka Fast Car: How's business these days?

Chesterfield
09-11-10, 20:12
Brothers, any idea who the FLs are in Date In Asia in Hanoi?? I have read the forum so know Fast Car is to be avoided and have hooked up with Lost in Love as well. Any other suggestions would be welcome. Am here for a couple of weeks.

Explorerman
09-12-10, 07:18
Brothers, any idea who the FLs are in Date In Asia in Hanoi?? I have read the forum so know Fast Car is to be avoided and have hooked up with Lost in Love as well. Any other suggestions would be welcome. Am here for a couple of weeks.


I know one DIA lady who wants $100 (which is a lot in this country, as reading the forum will tell you). You can go to the Sheraton and find the same. But if you are interested, she is a MILF, 33-34 years old, has a regular job, and wants to make some extra money.

She is pretty, and loves sex. Shy to be seen without her clothes off, as she had a caesarean.

If you are interested, I can give you her DIA name. But you cannot tell her that you know she is FL or is looking for money. You should just contact her if you want, and then suggest that you would be "generous". If she is interested, she will take it from there.

If you are interested, send me a PM.

Chesterfield
09-12-10, 19:59
Thanks Exploreman. Can't send a PM as am not a member and Jackson is not going to allow me to put up a mail address. On a different note, has anybody tried the BJ massage places on Pho Vong. 200K ticket for foreigners and 100 K tip. Open till 5 AM at night. So perfect after a night at New Square or Face Club. Its foreigner friendly as I have gone alone late and don't speak much vietnamese. But understand the ticket for locals is 120K. Very basic stuff. With the usual damp tissues. But for that price you can't really go wrong.

===============================================

Hi Chesterfield,

Are you suggesting that a sophisticated world traveler such as yourself can not afford a $20 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained.

A forum subscription is less than 40 cents a week. That's less than the price of a newspaper.

Thanks,

Jackson

Blackfootballer
09-16-10, 16:43
I would prefer BJ baber shop in THAI PHIEN street, not far from the cetre and it would be a nice place to go.

Sword Fisch
09-27-10, 08:07
Thanks to previous posters who mentioned the pham van dong/au co areas.

Finally some opportunities for some cheap & sleazy action here in hanoi.

Not really keen on a $30. 50 massage/HJ/BJ or hairdresser bullshit.

Much prefer FS brothels.

At 1000 hrs today took the #7 public bus along pham van dong (from airport) as described in previous posts.

(1km north of hoang quoc viet; apx 3-4 kms south of the bridge)

Looked carefully on both sides of the street, but couldn't really see any likely looking places.

Is the hunting better (more obvious) later in the afternoon/evening, when the red fluoros are switched on?

Would my searching benefit by asking/hiring a local moto (xe om) rider?

Or is this a sure recipe for getting ripped off?

Pham van dong/au co intersection/overpass is also mentioned.

Didn't check out this location yet. Hopefully this afternoon.

Bespoke
10-05-10, 07:40
On Xuan Dieu street near Ho Tay (westlake) there is a big "Thai Massage" sign at the corner of Thien Thai. You can't miss it. I wanted to see what it was all about, and following Thien Thai to the end there is the Tay Ho Hotel with tennis courts and pool. Looked like a large complex.

Next to the tennis courts was the massage facility. It has a red neon sign on it. We got there late so it was already dark, thus difficult to see the place. It was dimly lit in any case.

The ticket price was 200k, seemed kind of steep relative to what other posters have said here. Apparently that was the VIP room with in room sauna and jet bathtub. The facilities are kind of run down in my opinion. The hot water was not working well, but since they collected the money already at the desk I thought I would make the best of it and having something to report.

The masseuse was probably in early 30s but was not bad looking. After bathing me and washing all the right places, she gave an excellent massage including hot stones treatment. She worked very hard and asked for permission to turn the fan on. Oddly enough (for the looks of the place) she did not offer to do anything else but asked if I was sore anywhere else so she could work on that with the remaining time. She seemed surprised at my suggestion of a tug or maybe just pretending. After checking out the little window she sat on the table and went to work. Would not do anything else but frankly I was not pushing for it.

Damage 200k+150k tip for around 80 mins. Bottomline is that it's a good massage w/ a bit extra at the end but I will probably not be back.

Bespoke
10-05-10, 07:51
At the beginning of Nghi Tam road near the Sofitel and Thanh Nien road is Esaleen. There had been some reports here suggesting that it is a good place in Hanoi, but I did not find it so.

The girls were mid to late 20s, some kinda fat and short. Facilities were better than the one I reported on before, but suprised that it was not nicer given the great sign outside and its proximity to the sofitel.

Dry and steam saunas offered along with a jacuzzi, shower then up to the small rooms. At the end they ask if you want HJ and proceed. My girl sat at the other end of the table with my legs straddling her. It seemed like a strategy to keep the distance and make groping difficult. Quality of massage was standard, extra service just so so.

Both mine and my friend's girls haggled over the tip as I would find out later which spoils the mood. I was firm w/ 100 and my friend paid 150 which he said was more the standard these days in HN.

Price for ticket was 120 for VN and 150 for foreigners. They give you a coupon at the end worth 50% off a foreign ticket and buy 2 get 1 free for vn at the next visit (before 10pm).

After reading the posts, I didn't expect very much but did think it sounded better in the posts. Didn't see anyone attractive in the 5-6 that I saw walk by me. Tried it out for curiosity and to I guess confirm the lack of good places in HN.

Damage was 120-150 +100-150 tip for 60 minutes. Less expensive next time around, but I won't be back here either.

JohnSue
10-06-10, 19:02
I have not read all the posts here yet (quite a few though) but know the scene in Hanoi for getting girls to a room in a decent hotel is difficult. What I do is keep numbers for Viet girls I meet elsewhere in Asia (Orchard Towers, Beach Club Cafe, etc) and also ask for their Viet number. Most of the girls I meet come from Hanoi, so when I am in town I call or sms them in advance and either get them to come to the hotel smartly dressed in the evening (ideally before the curfew, but they know how to deal with that if they will come late) or during the day if I am not working.

The sort of Viets that I meet overseas tend to be 30 something and educated with decent English. Most seem to have formerly been bookeepers. They are all rampant in bed, usually all night. It's like a professional thing. They will probably want US$100 for the night though. But that is a lot less than they charge in Orchard Towers.

Cheers,

John

Explorerman
10-07-10, 11:08
On Xuan Dieu street near Ho Tay (westlake) there is a big "Thai Massage" sign at the corner of Thien Thai. You can't miss it. I wanted to see what it was all about, and following Thien Thai to the end there is the Tay Ho Hotel with tennis courts and pool. Looked like a large complex.

Next to the tennis courts was the massage facility. It has a red neon sign on it. We got there late so it was already dark, thus difficult to see the place. It was dimly lit in any case.

The ticket price was 200k, seemed kind of steep relative to what other posters have said here. Apparently that was the VIP room with in room sauna and jet bathtub. The facilities are kind of run down in my opinion. The hot water was not working well, but since they collected the money already at the desk I thought I would make the best of it and having something to report.

The masseuse was probably in early 30s but was not bad looking. After bathing me and washing all the right places, she gave an excellent massage including hot stones treatment. She worked very hard and asked for permission to turn the fan on. Oddly enough (for the looks of the place) she did not offer to do anything else but asked if I was sore anywhere else so she could work on that with the remaining time. She seemed surprised at my suggestion of a tug or maybe just pretending. After checking out the little window she sat on the table and went to work. Would not do anything else but frankly I was not pushing for it.

Damage 200k+150k tip for around 80 mins. Bottomline is that it's a good massage w/ a bit extra at the end but I will probably not be back.

I have been there too, and it is as you describe. It seems that the club is trying to get the girls not to offer extras, so they are pressured a bit, it seems. I have been tipping 200,000 there and that is in the VIP room for the 90 minute version. Pretty good massage, and I enjoy the soapy wash, and had a tug once in there also.

One gal wanted to come to my place instead of doing anything there. Enjoyed a nice tumble with her once, but have not repeated.

But for that part of town, there are not so many options for massage, so I still go occassionally, usually on a weekend if I am in town. The other place is one near the Sheraton on Xuan Dieu, just about 100m from the entrance.

The Guy
10-09-10, 09:52
At the beginning of Nghi Tam road near the Sofitel and Thanh Nien road is Esaleen. There had been some reports here suggesting that it is a good place in Hanoi, but I did not find it so.

The girls were mid to late 20s, some kinda fat and short. Facilities were better than the one I reported on before, but suprised that it was not nicer given the great sign outside and its proximity to the sofitel.

Dry and steam saunas offered along with a jacuzzi, shower then up to the small rooms. At the end they ask if you want HJ and proceed. My girl sat at the other end of the table with my legs straddling her. It seemed like a strategy to keep the distance and make groping difficult. Quality of massage was standard, extra service just so so.

Both mine and my friend's girls haggled over the tip as I would find out later which spoils the mood. I was firm w/ 100 and my friend paid 150 which he said was more the standard these days in HN.

Price for ticket was 120 for VN and 150 for foreigners. They give you a coupon at the end worth 50% off a foreign ticket and buy 2 get 1 free for vn at the next visit (before 10pm).

After reading the posts, I didn't expect very much but did think it sounded better in the posts. Didn't see anyone attractive in the 5-6 that I saw walk by me. Tried it out for curiosity and to I guess confirm the lack of good places in HN.

Damage was 120-150 +100-150 tip for 60 minutes. Less expensive next time around, but I won't be back here either.

I've generally been happy at this place. It's just 75,000 with the coupon from the previous visit and the facilities are pretty for a VN massage joint. I agree some of the girls are less pretty - maybe 5's. It's no problem, however, to ask for another if you don't like the one they send to you. I've done it several times. However, I believe there are several girls in the 7-8 range, good figures, and some will readily offer to meet you on the outside. It really depends.

FYI, I tip 200,000 for HJ if the girl lets feel her up inside her outfit, underwear. This happens about 60% of the time. Otherwise I tip 150,000 for solid massage, HJ down to 50,000 for mediocre preformance. I never negotiate a price before the HJ. If they insist on pre-negotiations, I decline and tip them 50,000 - so I'm out $6 for an hour massage. Many will try to get more but if you show you know the prices, they'll fall in line.

Explorerman
10-09-10, 12:25
I've generally been happy at this place. It's just 75,000 with the coupon from the previous visit and the facilities are pretty for a VN massage joint. I agree some of the girls are less pretty - maybe 5's. It's no problem, however, to ask for another if you don't like the one they send to you. I've done it several times. However, I believe there are several girls in the 7-8 range, good figures, and some will readily offer to meet you on the outside. It really depends.

FYI, I tip 200,000 for HJ if the girl lets feel her up inside her outfit, underwear. This happens about 60% of the time. Otherwise I tip 150,000 for solid massage, HJ down to 50,000 for mediocre preformance. I never negotiate a price before the HJ. If they insist on pre-negotiations, I decline and tip them 50,000 - so I'm out $6 for an hour massage. Many will try to get more but if you show you know the prices, they'll fall in line.

Yes, obviously some guys go to Esalen and ruin it for others, because some girls say "one million" or 500,000 for HJ, and then trying to bargain is silly. Your approach is better, though some girls are persistent if you are a white Westerner with trying to get more. I hate that - a real mood killer.

The Guy
10-11-10, 13:19
Yes, obviously some guys go to Esalen and ruin it for others, because some girls say "one million" or 500,000 for HJ, and then trying to bargain is silly. Your approach is better, though some girls are persistent if you are a white Westerner with trying to get more. I hate that - a real mood killer.

Yes, you're right. I have the advantage of being a Viet-speaking Westerner and that helps keep them in line. If they suggest something ridiculous like 500,000, a Viet guy would just look at them like their crazy, so you might try that. Me, I just don't do pre-HJ neogotiations and I tell them very politiely that I don't discuss money until the service is complete. In many cases, the girls want to put their phone numbers into my phone as I'm leaving, so they can't be too upset about the tip.

I'm quite confident the prices I suggested below are generous by local standards, based on my conversations with the staff.

Intransit
10-11-10, 15:09
Heading to Hanoi next week and will be traveling with my non-Viet, Asian girlfriend. Will we be hassled if we check into a hotel together unmarried? Thanks.

Pak Mike
10-11-10, 23:30
Heading to Hanoi next week and will be traveling with my non-Viet, Asian girlfriend. Will we be hassled if we check into a hotel together unmarried? Thanks.

Will not be a problem.

Vandela
10-17-10, 19:24
Hi guys,

I just got a job offer in Hanoi, and I'm moving next month. Happened to find this forum and read your posts, very useful indeed. But apparently you guys are only looking for local girl. I'm a bit different, I'm looking for all types of girls anywhere I'm going, of course locals are high priority but others cant be ignored. As far as I know there aren't many foreign girls in Hanoi, and it's not so easy to find them. Just wanna know if any of you guys know bars or places where they usually hang out so I can pick up some of them (American, European, Australian, Asian, blalala)

Thanks a lot

Beijing Fox
10-26-10, 11:06
I've read the forum back 12 pages, but couldn't really find what I'm looking for.

I'll be in Hanoi, November 12-14 and looking for girl/woman to accompany for these three days, maybe to Hailong Bay - sex included

Besides HJ and BJ I haven't found much information about where I could find such a girl.

I've found 3 on Craig List, have contacted them and are waiting for a reply. Does any of you have any experience with them?

Thanks for your help,

The Beijing Fox

Johndao
10-26-10, 16:57
I've read the forum back 12 pages, but couldn't really find what I'm looking for.

I'll be in Hanoi, November 12-14 and looking for girl/woman to accompany for these three days, maybe to Hailong Bay - sex included

Besides HJ and BJ I haven't found much information about where I could find such a girl.

I've found 3 on Craig List, have contacted them and are waiting for a reply. Does any of you have any experience with them?

Thanks for your help,

The Beijing Fox
You are very unlikely to find this in the short time you have left to form a relationship online or even in person. VN and especially Hanoi is not Thailand or the PI. It is completely different as far as these things go.

It would be much easier for you to bring a girl from Thailand or Cambodia or somewhere. Also, a foreign girl can stay in any hotel with you any time, while a Viet girl can not.

But good luck and have a good time.

JD

Beijing Fox
10-27-10, 09:56
Thank you for your reply John.
Reading the forum, I didn't have high expectations.

Maybe the alternative is to stay at a girl-friendly hotel and then pick somebody up night-by-night - or maybe the same person.

Is there any bar in Hanoi, where I could try to find a WG?







You are very unlikely to find this in the short time you have left to form a relationship online or even in person. VN and especially Hanoi is not Thailand or the PI. It is completely different as far as these things go.

It would be much easier for you to bring a girl from Thailand or Cambodia or somewhere. Also, a foreign girl can stay in any hotel with you any time, while a Viet girl can not.

But good luck and have a good time.

JD

Explorerman
10-31-10, 23:00
Thank you for your reply John.
Reading the forum, I didn't have high expectations.

Maybe the alternative is to stay at a girl-friendly hotel and then pick somebody up night-by-night - or maybe the same person.

Is there any bar in Hanoi, where I could try to find a WG?

Read the Forum in more detail, but in Hanoi, Fortuna is a place, but you stay there, and Sheraton for take out to cheap hotel. Both $100 basically, so more expensive than needed, but perhaps workable.

Not sure you can do something with Halong, unless you take a cheap girl and cheap tour where they don't follow the rules.

Good luck.

Franco Cozzo
10-31-10, 23:58
JD and Pak Mike - thanks for the posts regarding non Viet ladies and hotels. I am surprised there is not more of a foreign (as in neighboring country) p4p presence in VN, catering to tourists (and ostensibly getting around the government controls on hotels that make most non GF).

I was planning on making most of my VN trip non-adult in nature (except for Danang, and trying a few places in Saigon thanks to JD), now may take a girl I either hook up with in a p4p or non p4p manner. Does anyone know the visa requirements for tourists from nearby countries? I will RTFI (Internet exchanged for Forum in RTFF), as hopefully it is fairly evident, if not locals knowledge would be handy.

The only problem with doing that is I will miss out on the fairly hot, drunken backpacker action at the 'beach party' in Hoi An... Boozed up (all), partly naked (some) chicks from all the usual tourist countries.

Franco Cozzo
11-01-10, 00:08
And I answered my own question: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/146860-vietnam-visa-info/

Beijing Fox
11-09-10, 04:07
Hi Friends,

I'm staying at the Sheraton. Under the Sheraton is the Nutz Bar with many WG. They quote US$150 for overnight (not cheap, but they don't seem to be willing to discount. giving the location, clientele, etc., not a big surprise)

However, it is not possible to bring a girl into the Sheratoon after 21:00 pm. If you want to do so, you have to rent an extra room for her. The girls say there is a small hotel in 1 minute walking distance where you can go for a ST.

Quality on average is 5-7 and some speak some English.








Read the Forum in more detail, but in Hanoi, Fortuna is a place, but you stay there, and Sheraton for take out to cheap hotel. Both $100 basically, so more expensive than needed, but perhaps workable.

Not sure you can do something with Halong, unless you take a cheap girl and cheap tour where they don't follow the rules.

Good luck.

Riverstar
11-09-10, 11:11
I just thought that I would remind members that with a little preparation and taking advantage of web sites such as Date In Asia and Tagged a good return can be achieved in pursuing our hobby.

A few years ago I got a job in Hanoi on a three year contract and for the first two months lived a celibate lifestyle, my first stroke of luck came with a chance encounter in a small restaurant near my apartment when a woman helped me out with a language misunderstanding. We got talking and arranged to meet again the following night in the same restaurant, she was married with two kids from the south and attending a course in Hanoi, after a few meetings the inevitable happened and we continued on a regular basis until six weeks later her course finished and she returned to My Tho.
During this period I started to chat with a number of ladies using DIA and Tagged and my second success was another married lady who wanted to experience a western man as everyone said that they had bigger cocks than Vietnamese men. She was fantastic with the tightest pussy I have ever entered she would come to me for a fuck and I would go to her house to eat with her family. No 3 a television reporter on secondment from a television station in the south. No 4 who started out as purely as a business transaction texted me after our second session asking if she could come the following night free of charge and three years we still meet at least once a week and apart from the odd meal no money changes hands. No 5 was a strange girl who although was a great fuck was a little clinging, No 7 was another business transaction a strange girl with bright orange hair good fuck but weird!!. No 8 a university lecturer with a fantastic body and once she got going was difficult to stop, married again and only lived two streets away but that didn’t seem to put her off. No 9 a fashion designer, unfortunately we only spent one weekend together but it was worth it. No 10 very cute, very small who knew how to please a man and lived with her American boyfriend who had promised to marry but was not coming up with the goods and she suspected was having a bit on the side, so she decided to do the same. I also managed to arrange a number of successful meetings during trips to HCMC and Da Nang. There were of course some failures however the chase was fun, what I enjoyed about most of these girls was that they were not one night stands and indeed three years I still enjoy their company. Having your own apartment is a big plus so much easier to persuade them visit a living room rather straight into a bedroom.

I have also had success with DIA and Tagged in Thailand, Malaysia, and Hong Kong

What did surprise me was the number of married women in Vietnam who wanted a bit on the side with a western man, there was even a woman in our office who knew I had a number of girlfriends but still wanted the odd lunch time fuck.

Blackfootballer
11-09-10, 16:05
You are right, and also a number of men are on that site too.

Blackfootballer
11-09-10, 16:08
And on the other side, number of married werstern men want to try sex with Vietnamese girls or South East Asian girls.

Riverstar
11-09-10, 19:55
And on the other side, number of married werstern men want to try sex with Vietnamese girls or South East Asian girls.

I agree with both your comments, however what I was trying to say was that I was surprised how many married Vietnamese ladies wanted sex with an slightly overweight 60 year old man who was prepared to give them a little attention

Frequent
11-11-10, 15:51
Just arrived in Hanoi yesterday for business. Was dismayed after reading the reports on the forum, seems like having a little fun in this town is tough.

Finished working late grabbed some dinner at the hotel then asked the concierge to arrange a taxi to take me to the Sheraton Hotel, wanted to check out the Nutz bar.

Arrived there just before midnight, very loud music, its quite dark and has circular bar in the middle, was by myself so parked up at the bar ordered a beer and take in the atmosphere. Which is pretty flat although the place had quite a few people both foreigners and locals. And of course a few working girls.

Eventually one strolled over and tried to start a conversation, after the initial hellos had passed she went for the kill and took a translation out on her phone. "you want to go with me" I checked her out, gave her a 4 out of 10 so just said no thanks.

10 mins later another girl who had been exchanging glances for a while came over. We started making chit chat, she was pretty talkative, quite pretty 6-7/10. Eventually she asked if we could go together. $100us plus $30 for the hotel. I thought for a little while haggled a little but she wasnt budging, but thought what the hell she had a good attitude about her she was smart and could hold a proper conversation in English. We took a taxi 2min ride down some alley and ended up a little hotel, which was functional and relatively clean.

We had a quick shower then hit the bed playing with each other and kissing touching and teasing each other for a little while before getting down to it. She was pretty good and we managed to switch a few positions before the little chap had to explode!

I was pretty knackered after, and she was asking me to go again for round 2, but decided that heading home was probably the right thing as had meeting to attend in the morning and it was already 2. 30am. We cleaned up and dressed. Got into a taxi, she paid in advance for it in advance telling the taxi driver would drop me to the hotel, as she had to leave en route. Taxi dropped me safely back to my hotel.

Overall she may not have been an absolute stunner, but after reading the forum my expectation was low for having fun in Hanoi. It was money well spent she was a nice girl. HCM is much wilder.

Would I have her again? Probably not, would like to play the field.

But to help others out there, Nutz bar does get you some action, if all the girls there have the same attitude then have fun and enjoy.

Frequent
11-11-10, 21:04
Checked out "Angelina" in the Sofitel Metropole walked in about 11pm Thursday night, the place was packed, think someone was having a party. A handful of very good looking girls there very well dressed. Not quite sure if they were on the menu or just locals having fun.

Decided to take a taxi back to Nutz bar at the Sheraton around 1am, but once in the taxi and the alcohol was kicking in I decided to do something. Even though I RTFF, I still decided to ask the taxi driver to take me somewhere (must be something with this hobby), he suggested Karoke. What a fool I was. Went to this place, two very pretty girls an 8 and a 9 were with me, just for company they cost nothing tip was peanuts, negotiated with one of them for after karoke fun, the girls left so I could pau the bill, classic rip off at this point the Karoke bill was a killer only after 1 hour. Beers, Juices, cocktails, snacks/ peanuts, fruits etc, got completely cheated here. Paid $300us to clear the bill and get the hell out of this place.

Lost my appetite for the girls too, next time I better show better judgement, for anyone else out there. RTFF and don't let the alcohol cloud your better judgement.

Johndao
11-12-10, 02:40
Just arrived in Hanoi yesterday for business. Was dismayed after reading the reports on the forum, seems like having a little fun in this town is tough.

Finished working late grabbed some dinner at the hotel then asked the concierge to arrange a taxi to take me to the Sheraton Hotel, wanted to check out the Nutz bar.


Good report on your experience and yes, if you don't care how much you pay for a girl in this poorest of poor nations, then you can have some fun easily. Going rate for a short-time fuck like this in a mini hotel should be 500k or less ($25) but it is admittedly very hard to make the contacts for the newly arrived on business without the time to look. Mini hotel rate is really less than $10 so that was another $20 for her. All in all, she did very well, $120 for a late night short time with a polite guy.

JD

Beijing Fox
11-13-10, 07:36
After the conference I checked into the Dragon Hotel, 5 min walk from the Sheraton and Nutz. It is a lovely Chinese style hotel on 48 Xuan Dieu Street. US$39 per night. Girl friendly!!!
I looked for girls in Nutz and had them come over to the Dragon. No problem at all.
ShT US100, overnight US150, the common expat price






Hi Friends,

I'm staying at the Sheraton. Under the Sheraton is the Nutz Bar with many WG. They quote US$150 for overnight (not cheap, but they don't seem to be willing to discount. giving the location, clientele, etc., not a big surprise)

However, it is not possible to bring a girl into the Sheratoon after 21:00 pm. If you want to do so, you have to rent an extra room for her. The girls say there is a small hotel in 1 minute walking distance where you can go for a ST.

Quality on average is 5-7 and some speak some English.

Tiger 888
11-13-10, 15:56
ShT US100, overnight US150, the common expat priceRidiculous. That's the price you pay for a Vietnamese girl in Hong Kong who is on her own travel expenses (which is about 1 mio VND per day). If you have money to dispose of, I can give you my account number.

Beijing Fox
11-14-10, 01:12
Ridiculous. That's the price you pay for a Vietnamese girl in Hong Kong who is on her own travel expenses (which is about 1 mio VND per day). If you have money to dispose of, I can give you my account number.

He, he, he and I guess you are a real specialist for Hanoi, knowing the place in and out.

Clixtox
11-14-10, 04:22
your recently, and expensive, acquired knowledge. Thanks for posting your dismal review and TOFTT.

So called "karaoke" places are, without exception, ridiculous.

I have never understood how they stay in business, let alone how ubiquitous they seem to be.

I'd love to have more information from one of our bi-lingual brothers about how you can make these places work for the customer. I mean they must provide something reasonable, I would imagine, since there are so many of them around.

When I have been in one I absolutely do not allow anything besides one beer to touch the table in front of me, or anywhere else in the room. I am very careful to ask "bao nhieu", how much, before agreeing to even have a beer, which I don't touch, since I don't drink. That usually causes the lights to be turned back up and the bill for one beer to be presented after about 10 minutes.

Great entertainment though as the cutie attempts to futilely beguile me in Vietnamese and meanwhile a smorgasbord of gum, peanuts, fruit platters and more Heinekens are presented and whisked away.

The obligatory "mama-san" shows up and in her dozen words of English, garnished in a career working on her back, gives the desperate last effort to separate me form my cash.

The walk out through the nonplussed dudes, the "Heavies" that back up the eventual demands for your cash if you allow anything to be opened on the table, while smiling broadly and fending off desperate pleas for tips, is amusing. It would probably be an intimidating gauntlet for some folks though.

Tiger 888
11-14-10, 04:29
He, he, he and I guess you are a real specialist for Hanoi, knowing the place in and out.
The only thing I know is that they will happily accept double the amount if offered and make it the going rate if they can.

Hondaz50
11-14-10, 07:09
Hey everyone,

I've read through this page because I am headed there at the start of December.

Unlike many of you I can speak almost fluent Vietnamese, reason is my parents are Hoa (Chinese who lived in vietnam) I've been to Vietnam 2 times and I will give quick reports.

First trip was 6 years ago when from north to south. We still have family there so I had to keep my fun on the down-low as not to embarrass or cause issues for anyone.

Well I visited with a friend and after a few days late at night in the hotel I struck up a conversation with the night clerk who was a younger guy in his 20's. I made what seemed like idle chit chat in the lobby for a bit then I saw some very nice young girls come to the hotel at 11pm and they looked like pros. I then softly hit the "oh girls here are different then ones from back home" after that it lead to "if you want a girl I can find for you and bring to room". Yes please was my reply.

After about 1 hour 2 cute young girls showed up. One for me and one for my friend, we had some drinks in the room some talk and then to the action. Service was very good and it only cost 400, 000 per girl. Mine gave me her number (as I was mid 20s as well and she wanted to hang out)

I was going to take her to halong bay but couldn't last minute cause a family member decided to take me and therefore I had to bail on my new cute friend.

As I went down through the cities I met a few others

A notable experience in HCMC was meeting up with a cousin of a friend who was from a wealthy family so he had spent time in the US and learned english. We went to a few massage places then one night I did the same soft sell. "oh girls here are awsome. " he was like "if you want l will call some girls" so after dropping off his very hot girlfriend, we headed to a nice local outdoor bar and waited, 20 minutes later a very hot girl dressed like she was ready to go clubbing showed up, she obviously knew my local connection and said she could hook us up.

We ended up waiting for this other girl who showed up and she seemed the opposite, shy, not dressed up etc.

We out for a bit, then a hotel, he took the hot club girl, I got the sweet natural beauty. From what I could tell she was not a regular pro, prob did this very little or if at all before.

We had a great time for the whole night, cost was 800, 000. I tipped her another 500, 000 and told her not to tell the other girl as I KNOW she wasn't a pro and thought this extra could help her a bit.

FLASH FORWARD. Two summers ago.

I was banging this Chinese student over in the US, she invited me to visit her home town in Southern China. I did but knowing she had a family approved 'boyfriend' there that they wanted her to marry I knew chances of action where going to be sparse.

Well besides a crazy trip in China where we had to sneak around all over (her dad is a police commissioner and her family has connections in business and government I was taking risks for sure).

I decided to head to Hanoi for a bit to visit some family. The Chinese girl decided she wanted to come too and her family would only let her come if her 'boyfriend' went. DAMN!

Anyways we get to Hanoi and my travel companions are less then impressed, (Never travel with spoiled rich kids) so anyways they hid in the hotel a lot. I decided that I wouldn't punish myself and and had a friendly conversation with the motorbike cab driver outside my hotel.

I was going to get him to bring a girl back to the hotel for me but the douche

Bag at the hotel counter wanted a big bribe (or I thought he was being a douche but maybe he wasn't) Anyways since that was a no go me and the driver took off and he took me to another part of town that I wasn't familiar with, down one ally saw many girls on the back of scooters being driven by the mama'sans.

My viet is good but I let the driver do most of the talking, first they asked if we wanted to play and he said yes. Second they asked if I was vietm, my driver said Of Course he is, I replied "if I'm not viet then what am I supposed to be" keeping it short so that they wouldn't detect my accent.

Ok so I wander through the girls going past some 4-6s, till we see this snotty looking 7. 5-8. There was something about her that I said I wanted the prissy one.

Anyways cost to me was 250, 000 'for everything' that included the room ST and the girl (yes that was the price for everything) The little hotel or place was very basic but had room with a washroom where I took a shower, got my game on with the girl.

I tipped her 100, 000 cause I liked her and then she gave me her number (which I have to the motorbike cabby cause he liked her too and I was leaving the next day).

Anyways end of the day speaking vietnamese helps alot in the scene.

On this trip back I'm going to try and see if I can tag a non-pro girl first, or maybe I'll have some fun and mix it up.

I'll be in Hanoi for 7 weeks so I have time.

I just wanted to share my experiences cause I found the ones here very helpful.

Towel
11-22-10, 12:42
Hey! I am new in Hanoi! I want to try this amazing sex life in that city! Can anyone is willing to hang out together and try some MP or Cat Toc?

I am still to shy to enter alone.

Towel
11-22-10, 13:35
Hey! I am new in Hanoi! I was wondering if someone is willing to go with me in some MP or Cat Toc! I will feel really stange to go alone and I am a little bit shy to go alone.

So if anyone is interesting, just PM!

Okurka
11-24-10, 12:44
There's another interesting option in Hang Chui off Tran Hung Dao. From Tran Hung Dao cross the Karaoke place on the left and come to the MP on the right. Forget the name of the place but it has a glowing sign. Ticket is 200K. Unlike most other places, you do not pay upfront, but pay after the massage. Also the doors are sliding and do not have the frosted windows so anything short of FS goes. Most girls here do not even do a pretence of a massage, preferring to slap you on the back a few times before turning you over and getting to business. I was allocated Nguyen - maybe a 6 / 10 but what she lacked in looks, she made up for in enthusiasm. 2 BJs in 45 minutes with great technique but no CIM. Also allowed to liberally feel her up as she loosened her top and bottom. She will not strip. Tipped her 200K and she was happy - later found out thats the standard tip but most girls will only blow you once. A word of warning - the place is not very clean - the usual wet tissues for wiping. But its the closest place near the Old Quarter where a BJ is always on the table. And 22$ for 2 BJs is pretty good valueWe went there with my friend yesterday, they asked us for 400k per massage, we gave them 300k and then no tip at all as we thought that it was included in the payment - probably somehow mismanaged it (first time VN experience). Of course they asked for the tip, but we smiled and went just away as we thought 300k was ok. My friend got BJ without CIM and i got only HJ spent there something like 30 minutes at most.
Anyway we will be around Hanoi for three more weeks, so if someone would like to have a beer with us, just PM.

Your description of that place is still valid.

Towel
11-24-10, 13:46
Finally, I went alone in a Cat Toc on Dai Co Viet! They have three near the recent bridge in front of the Thong Nhat Park in the other side of the street! 200k to enter and 120k for the performance! Girls are like 6 to 7 on 10.

If you know some other blow job places, can you write some adresses!

PorkLobster
11-26-10, 12:34
We went there with my friend yesterday, they asked us for 400k per massage, we gave them 300k and then no tip at all as we thought that it was included in the payment - probably somehow mismanaged it (first time VN experience). Of course they asked for the tip, but we smiled and went just away as we thought 300k was ok. My friend got BJ without CIM and i got only HJ spent there something like 30 minutes at most.

Anyway we will be around Hanoi for three more weeks, so if someone would like to have a beer with us, just PM.

Your description of that place is still valid.Would that be in Hang Chuoi (with an additional "o")? Or is there a Hang Chui as well, that doesn't appear in google maps? I had a look in Hang Chuoi this afternoon, and while there are karaoke places aplenty I saw only one rather ordinary-looking massage place just around a corner. Is that the one? Perhaps it's easier to tell after dark, but it would be terribly embarrassing to ask for a BJ in the wrong place.

Okurka
11-26-10, 13:38
+++++

Nha nghi hoa dao (hoa dao hotel) at so: 22 duong ho boi (22 swimming pool road). 600k + 100k tip (I know we got ripped off but it was late) for 1 hour fun with cute girls.

I tried 2 more places in the same street, one at 46 to ngee van (called nha nghi van loi) and one at samew street at hoiuse no 23 or 22. The first place hoa dao hotel is justr 50 meters fm this place, so think there must be a new street name in between.

At the other 2 places had 1 hour fun for 500k + 200k tip. All over good experiences, I preferred the place at no. 46 and went there twice. Also open in the afternoon til late.So, is this some kind of FS place?

From your report I am not sure, if you paid for FS or for MP only.

Thanks

Okurka
11-26-10, 19:52
F. Ck that, four days in Hanoi and we still didn't manged to fuck a single girl.

To get a BJ or HJ isn't something hard for us, but we need to really fuck some nice little vietnamese ladies, otherwise we are going to die. Two days ago we went to karaoke with our local friend, I took one which was available for boom boom and rest said to us "no boom boom", even our local friend was surprised a lot by this situation.

Yesterday we check out Solace Bar and Phuc tan Bar if there is some paid pussy available and although we looked as two horny dogs, nothing was offered to us. Then we went into another bar, got together with some guys from the Spain, asked a barman for address where to go for boom boom and went on the hunt. We agreed on 400k per person with bordelmamma and went for a bussines. Well, I am fucking my girl for something like one minute and she started to scream that I have a big cock and it hurts her, not possible to fuck her anymore. She wasnt much interested on finishing me by hand, so when I saw her face it completely turned me down and I went away.

My friend was told by his girl, that she is pregnant, feel cold and have headeache, so no boom boom please. Well, he ended up like me.

Today, I hook up with a guy who works in our hotel, only to get ripped off by him, because I misunderstand him. I understood him 250k for boomboom (the small price should made me suspicious) while he asked for 2. 5 milion for it. Hard to argue with him about the price, since he has our passport on the hotel reception and the payment was after the service. They took me to the brothel(or massage place) close to the Sheraton, there were around 15 nice girls to choose from, rank 7-9, I choosed some nice lady and the only thing she was able to do in the room was asking for a tip or more money. Although she was really nice, it wasnt possible for me to get hard as her only words were "money" or "tip" and were all the time arguing about it. Of course, I was thinking about giving her some tip so she can shutup and mind more about our bussiniess, but I was warned by the guys to not give them any money as they are going to pay it instead of me. After something like 30 minutes I rather went away. So there I am, probably the biggest idiot in Hanoi right now.

Okurka
11-27-10, 08:22
Would that be in Hang Chuoi (with an additional "o")? Or is there a Hang Chui as well, that doesn't appear in google maps? I had a look in Hang Chuoi this afternoon, and while there are karaoke places aplenty I saw only one rather ordinary-looking massage place just around a corner. Is that the one? Perhaps it's easier to tell after dark, but it would be terribly embarrassing to ask for a BJ in the wrong place.

Yes it was Hang Chuoi. As the guy wrote before me, "Hang Chui off Tran Hung Dao. From Tran Hung Dao cross the Karaoke place on he left and come to the MP on the right" (it was something like 300 meters from cross of Tran Hung Dao and Hang Chuoi).

Just go there, look like a "horny dog" and they will offer sex massage to you.

Okurka
11-27-10, 08:29
Today, I hook up with a guy who works in our hotel, only to get ripped off by him, because I misunderstand him. I understood him 250k for boomboom (the small price should made me suspicious) while he asked for 2. 5 milion for it. Hard to argue with him about the price, since he has our passport on the hotel reception and the payment was after the service. They took me to the brothel(or massage place) close to the Sheraton, there were around 15 nice girls to choose from, rank 7-9, I choosed some nice lady and the only thing she was able to do in the room was asking for a tip or more money. Although she was really nice, it wasnt possible for me to get hard as her only words were "money" or "tip" and were all the time arguing about it. Of course, I was thinking about giving her some tip so she can shutup and mind more about our bussiniess, but I was warned by the guys to not give them any money as they are going to pay it instead of me. After something like 30 minutes I rather went away. So there I am, probably the biggest idiot in Hanoi right now.I find out that this story is from To Ngoc Van, the number was probably 46.

The reports from 2008 about this street are stating the price should be around 500k, so got ripped for 2 millions.

Well, the lesson learned. And never ever I am going to choose the best looking girl in the brothel, they are usually the ones not working hard and trying to get as much money as possible.

But probably will go there again to check it out without any hustler.

PorkLobster
11-29-10, 17:33
I finally found the Hang Chuoi place: as I suspected, it is NOT the legit-looking massage place (which does, however, offer an excellent proper massage), but a far seedier place further down towards the end of the road with a sign saying "heath services" (sic). Perhaps they have gotten wise to the ISG writeup, but the price I was quoted was 400K. Does that include everything? I asked, and was told yes yes, although nobody there spoke much English really. OK, previous reports had mentioned 200+200, so perhaps they want it all up front now, I thought, and entered.

The girl was rather chubby and at least in her late 30s, but was quite friendly and gave me a decent massage before proceeding to the BJ. When I tried to finger her pussy, she removed my hand saying she was on her period. Oh well, never mind. No CIM either, but it felt good anyway. Then as I'm about to leave, she asks for a tip. Wasn't that supposed to be included? I ask. No, the 400K was for mamasan "and then I get nothing" she says, looking unhappy, so I give her another 200. On the way out, I ask the mamasan about this and she confirmed that 400K was indeed now the price for the house. ISG inflation?

The next day I was in Cat Ba, where any number of bike drivers and other people offered boom-boom for 300K. I followed one of them to a place slightly up the hill from the harbor, where a handful of girls were available. I picked a rather cute young thing with nice tits and followed her up to a foul-smelling room on the second floor, where she immediately got undressed and under the cover. No washing and no pretense of massage whatsoever. But as soon as I touched her pussy I felt the string of a tampon. Is this a conspiracy or something, or just my bad luck? She was also on her period, and if I had been able to communicate a bit better with her or the staff I would have gotten another girl, but now I had to settle for a rather lackluster BJ. But after a while, she suddenly whips out a condom and lets me fuck her after all. Alas, after only a couple of seconds of this, she jumps off, literally dripping blood, and goes off to wash herself. When she came back, all she would give me was a HJ, but I didn't really insist on anything more at that point.

Tonight, I'm in Haiphong, which is a peculiar place. It's a huge city of several million people where I walked around today for 5-6 hours without seeing a single other Westerner. Inevitably, there were also a number of offers of boom-boom for 300K. This time, luckily, the girl was NOT on her period and she was rather cuddly too, so at last I was able to do some proper porking. So far so good, but as I was about to leave, having handed over the money to the girl, suddenly this thug shows up, trying to write me a bill in order to extort even more money. No way, I say, and just pushed him aside and walked out of there. He was extremely persistent, but as I was twice his size, he thankfully didn't try to start a fight. Nevertheless, he pursued me for a long while on his bike, asking for an additional "10 dollars for the room" and even stopped me from getting into a taxi and claiming he was going to the police. Now that would be the day. When a pimp goes to the police to complain! At long last I lost him, and I never paid more than the agreed-upon 300K, but the bastard still ruined the experience of some nice sex with a nice girl.

Mongering in Northern Vietnam is getting silly so I'll stop.

Okurka
12-01-10, 13:18
[QUOTE=Porklobster]I finally found the Hang Chuoi place: as I suspected, it is NOT the legit-looking massage place (which does, however, offer an excellent proper massage), but a far seedier place further down towards the end of the road with a sign saying "heath services" (sic). Perhaps they have gotten wise to the ISG writeup, but the price I was quoted was 400K. Does that include everything? I asked, and was told yes yes, although nobody there spoke much English really. OK, previous reports had mentioned 200+200, so perhaps they want it all up front now, I thought, and entered.

[/QUOTE=Porklobster]it looks you made the same mistake like we in the story about Hang Chuoi 28 as we gave them 400k and then no tip at all. Two days ago, we were leaving Hanoi and we came back to the Hang Chuoi 28 and nobody looked at us in bad way. They asked for 400k, we told them 200k, they said no and we tried to go away - of course, 200k offer was immediately accepted. After the action, me and my friend gave 100k tip each and everything was ok. Yes, its a bit sleazy place, but thanks god for this relief.

now i only pray for our Hanoi friends to not drink so much when we are together. 2x times we were promised to go somewhere, but all of them had excuses of being drunken too much at the moment, while they all the time before spoked about using boomboom services.

Hondaz50
12-03-10, 02:15
I arrived in Hanoi a few days ago, had hard time adjusting to the time change, then family all want me to go here and there. I had to stay with relatives for a few days.

I will be getting a hotel for the rest of my stay near the old quarter. The hotel is girl friendly, (I emailed first asking specifically about that) and the owner was cool with it but said he wouldn't be responsible for anything stolen, and I told him I was cool with that because I'll leave most of my things at my uncle's place.

So I hope to put in a better report soon, the funny thing is lots of family and friends are introducing me to 'nice girls' who they want me to consider for marriage. Its like being a poor kid in front of a candy shop, can look but I cannot fool around with these girls or I will cause a big problem for my family here. I will keep things seprate.

Love Vietnam so far, once I rent my own scooter in a few days and have a hotel I can come home late, I'm going to try and meet some girls at the bars and clubs.

Okurka
12-06-10, 18:37
Then we went into another bar, got together with some guys from the Spain, asked a barman for address where to go for boom boom and went on the hunt. We agreed on 400k per person with bordelmamma and went for a bussines. Well, I am fucking my girl for something like one minute and she started to scream that I have a big cock and it hurts her, not possible to fuck her anymore. She wasnt much interested on finishing me by hand, so when I saw her face it completely turned me down and I went away.

My friend was told by his girl, that she is pregnant, feel cold and have headeache, so no boom boom please. Well, he ended up like me.So I found out today that this story was from Cua Bac St, there are some brothels where the taximan or any other rip-off man will try to take you (well not all of the taximans are bad guys, but when it comes to the boomboom most of them probably are).

Today we started to play the game "rip-off your local rip-off man". Drinking on street, talking to some local guy (yes, I know the rule don't ever believe anyone from the street, but he looked like more trusthworthy then other scammers here), after like one hour he propose us boomboom for 1. 2 milion (me, my friend and him) paid by us. So we agreed and we even told him, if everthing will be ok we could go again day after (to make more incentive for him).

So we went by taxi to Cua Bac St, but there was no boomboom available as we were too early (around 4pm), then we went with him for massage, he promised not more then 13usd and the taxi is on his account. So we went something like 8km to the outskirts of hanoi to some shithole, he then change his mind and asked for 20usd per massage (the girls were nice, but in this kind of shitholes the locals probably pay something like 5-7usd for massage, excluding the tip). When we saw the conditions we decided to just walk a way as we realize he is trying to earn some "big dongs" on our account. So he made a lot of screams, tried to chase us for around 10 minutes with taxi man, asked for 250 dongs for way with the taxi (on the single backway we paid something like 80k dongs), but we didn't gave them a single dong as we walk away from them.

Well those guys needs to learn a lesson that you can't simply scam any joe6pack coming from west countries. Really, we arent greedy guys, we have no problem to pay for a good vietnamese pussy in our homeland 100-150usd per hour, but we will not support anyone with even single dong trying to rip us off here. We are learning fastly.

Hondaz50
12-13-10, 01:54
Anyone Know where I can get a haircut with extras? I know they have them in HCMC but not sure where to go in Hanoi.

Also I've just tried Nutz bar, New Square and no pro's to be seen. Where would you guys suggest?

I have a lead from a cabbie that fun can be had for 350, 000 so I'm going to check that out but I wouldn't mind paying a a little more for a hot club-bar type girl.

Deptrai
12-13-10, 19:37
Anyone Know where I can get a haircut with extras? I know they have them in HCMC but not sure where to go in Hanoi.

Also I've just tried Nutz bar, New Square and no pro's to be seen. Where would you guys suggest?

I have a lead from a cabbie that fun can be had for 350, 000 so I'm going to check that out but I wouldn't mind paying a a little more for a hot club-bar type girl. Good luck with your lead from cabbie, and I would be very surprise if it is NOT a scam! In hanoi, leads about boom boom from cabbies are 101% scam!

Hondaz50
12-15-10, 08:27
Pham van Dong is a street well west of the center of Hanoi, by taxi from the Old quarter you should expect to pay 100, 000 (5 dollars USD) if you take one of the mini cabs, if you take a mid sized prices goes up.

I went there with a cabbie contact, and the picking were slim at the early hour. After 930pm is best. You will see women sitting around in store fronts beside closed gated shop fronts. Drive slow along Pham Van Dong north of Hoang Quoc Viet. And when you see a group or ladies wave you in stop off and talk to them.

If you don't speak viet like I do then you can just use sign language or a pad of paper to negotiate. Always ask the price first. I saw a girl that was a hard 7. 5 here. The price was 150, 000 (yep not a typo) and another 100, 000 for wetting your whistle with her mouth before hand. This place is like eating in a food court or fast food joint you will get in and out quick no fancy dinning room.

So for a total of 250, 000 quick service, I prefer GFE myself but its good to know and pass on.

As for the cabbie he later tried to scame me out of 200, 000 when I was going to give him more then that anyways (dumb a*ss) so yeah fair warning don't trust the cabbies (most anyways).

Cheers

Xxanty
01-09-11, 14:45
Dear friends.

Can anyone advice 3* or budget hotel with girl friendly Policy? Which part of hanoi is better for tourists.

It would be appreciated if let me know the actions in hanoi, because it will be my first time to Hanoi.

Thanks for your replies.

Rgerads,

Alex

Johndao
01-10-11, 02:30
Dear friends.

Can anyone advice 3* or budget hotel with girl friendly Policy? Which part of hanoi is better for tourists.

It would be appreciated if let me know the actions in hanoi, because it will be my first time to Hanoi.

Thanks for your replies.

Rgerads,

AlexEVERYBODY you meet in Hanoi will try to cheat you if not downright rip you off. That means hotel receptionist, waiter, girls you meet anywhere, taxi driver, cyclo driver, t-shirt seller, massage staff from receptionist to service provider to cleaner to moto parker. Everybody. After your trip, write back here and tell me if I was right.

JD

Tiger 888
01-10-11, 04:18
EVERYBODY you meet in Hanoi will try to cheat you if not downright rip you off. That means hotel receptionist, waiter, girls you meet anywhere, taxi driver, cyclo driver, t-shirt seller, massage staff from receptionist to service provider to cleaner to moto parker. Everybody. After your trip, write back here and tell me if I was right.

JDThe hotel where I stayed (Prince, 65 Hang Cot) was fine (no cheating at all. 16 USD for an ok room in the old quarters) as was the gold shop to exchange even large amounts. But as the general rule you are pretty right. I don't like Hanoi at all for exactly that reason.

Johndao
01-10-11, 05:38
The hotel where I stayed (Prince, 65 Hang Cot) was fine (no cheating at all. 16 USD for an ok room in the old quarters) as was the gold shop to exchange even large amounts. But as the general rule you are pretty right. I don't like Hanoi at all for exactly that reason.Count your money very carefully at the gold shop and DO NOT step away from the counter until you are finished counting in front of the cashier. Don't worry about the people in line behind you, they will wait patiently. Common scam is to short you 100k. When you point it out they can say "Oh sorry, my mistake" and hand over another 100k. If you don't point it out they are 100k richer. If you walk away and then come back to point it out, you have no argument.

In the hotel, clarify everything, especially VAT (10%). Common scam is to tell you it is included on check-in, then tell you it's not included on check-out. Also beware local phone charges, breakfast, etc. Clarify all beforehand and better write it down. Normal for them to change things at the end, when time to pay, especially if you are in a hurry or not in the mood to argue over a few extra dollars.

JD

Xxanty
01-15-11, 12:39
Hi.

Travelling to Hanoi in March 2011 for the 1st time.

Can anyone suggest some girl friendly hotels in the action area.

Where is the action area? In the old quater?

Thanks

AussieDoug
01-19-11, 12:57
Hilton at Hanoi Opera is GF, as one would expect of a 4-5 * hotel, there was a WG sitting on a scooter out the side door, biy chubby, but OK.

Soulmanx07
01-26-11, 07:02
Hi everyone.

There is a website called Saigon Escorts that has pics of girls that are apparently available for company. They are really expensive but very hot chicks. They ask for 50% deposit to book. Has anyone used their services before? Are the legit?

Johndao
01-26-11, 07:36
Hilton at Hanoi Opera is GF, as one would expect of a 4-5 * hotel, there was a WG sitting on a scooter out the side door, biy chubby, but OK.Right Doug, as anyone who has read a bit through the Vietnam Forum would know, Four and Five Star Hotels in Vietnam are always those that are most likely to be GF.

JD

Johndao
01-26-11, 07:39
Hi everyone.

There is a website called Saigon Escorts that has pics of girls that are apparently available for company. They are really expensive but very hot chicks. They ask for 50% deposit to book. Has anyone used their services before? Are they legit? If you think they are, I will send you some pictures of real hot, pretty girls, give you an account number for you to deposit $100 to, then later I will introduce you to the girl and you can give her another $100 for meeting you. Later, you can even arrange to have sex with her for some more money. Oh sorry, the short answer to your last question, NO.

JD

Soulmanx07
01-26-11, 09:22
Haha yeah I figured those girls were too good to be true. Thanks!

Explorerman
01-26-11, 16:49
Right Doug, as anyone who has read a bit through the Vietnam Forum would know, Four and Five Star Hotels in Vietnam are always those that are most likely to be GF.

JDJust in case anyone might not get it, JD is being sarcastic. To be clear for the uninitiated visitors: There is no 5 star hotel in Vietnam that is GF, and very few 4 star that are.

Explorerman
01-26-11, 16:51
Hi.

Travelling to Hanoi in March 2011 for the 1st time.

Can anyone suggest some girl friendly hotels in the action area.

Where is the action area? In the old quater?

ThanksDepends on your budget. There really is no action area, but if you stay in 3 star, you can usually bring one you find somewhere back with you, at least ST, and you can always before 10pm. You also can try the Fortuna Hotel. Do a search here to find out more.

Spider916
02-08-11, 15:42
Hi guys,

I did rttf and searched for info on the Fortuna hotel night club but could only find info from 2008.

Would anybody care to let me know what the current situation in Fortuna hotel / boss club is?

Much appreciated.


Depends on your budget. There really is no action area, but if you stay in 3 star, you can usually bring one you find somewhere back with you, at least ST, and you can always before 10pm. You also can try the Fortuna Hotel. Do a search here to find out more.

Globotto
02-16-11, 06:21
Your looking for some action in Hanoi. Your a pale faced tourist wandering around the lake clueless. You can't find a proper brothel or disco. Sex happens in Hanoi you just got to find it. And like a lot of Vietnam most sex for pay caters to the local males and not long dong silver. We found a motorbike driver that took us a couple K's out of central to a backstreet that had a bunch of girls standing around and motorbike runners of their own. They rode up beside us, we picked girls and rode back to our Hotel which admitted them while holding their I'd cards. We cleared with the Hotel beforehand that we could bring in the girls. A prerequisite often coupled with a trashy room. The sex was quick. For me pleasurable. The cost fifty dollar.

Gouging happens all the time in North Vietnam. Example trashy local Vietnamese restaurants or stalls with menus that didn't have prices on it were probably charging us double. Bring a phrase book and make sure you learn how to ask the how much beforehand. Typically if some Vietnamese pimp or anyone else is trying to rush you to pay for something right away then your probably going to get burned. So I your thinking weather you want to buy something or not and the person looking at you is yelling money money I would suggest you back out and find satisfaction somewhere else.

Horrible experience at Cat Ba Island. We went to a shop house with about 8 chicks and 4 pimps. One of them was Mr dick wad in a mafia suit. I was convinced to pay 400, 000 dong beforehand and followed what seemed like a decent looking chick upstairs to a partitioned space large enough to contain a bed. She would not do anything but make a grimace face and rattle my wet noodle and ask for more money. She did remove her pants but she would not even take her shirt off. She was sitting all curled up and she would not let me touch her. She was shooting off at the mouth every time I tried to get intimate with her or touch her. Eventually mighty penis was twirling like a propeller and I wasn't going anywhere. Totally humiliated I got out of there with nothing. Cat Ba is a beautiful island.

Johndao
02-16-11, 06:59
Horrible experience at Cat Ba Island. We went to a shop house with about 8 chicks and 4 pimps. One of them was Mr dick wad in a mafia suit. I was convinced to pay 400, 000 dong beforehand and followed what seemed like a decent looking chick upstairs to a partitioned space large enough to contain a bed. She would not do anything but make a grimace face and rattle my wet noodle and ask for more money. She did remove her pants but she would not even take her shirt off. She was sitting all curled up and she would not let me touch her. She was shooting off at the mouth every time I tried to get intimate with her or touch her. Eventually mighty penis was twirling like a propeller and I wasn't going anywhere. Totally humiliated I got out of there with nothing. Cat Ba is a beautiful island.Never pay first. The guys downstairs just kept your money and told the girl to get some from you herself if you want to do something with her.

JD

GreenBud
02-16-11, 14:35
Gouging happens all the time in North Vietnam.Gouging also occurs in South Vietnam. Which is worst? Hanoi or Vung Tau?


Example trashy local Vietnamese restaurants or stalls with menus that didn't have prices on it were probably charging us double. Bring a phrase book and make sure you learn how to ask the how much beforehand.Always need to ask what the prices are beforehand, or they will overcharge you. Even when you see what the locals are paying, you still need to confirm the prices.

Another scam is a restaurant that will have prices on the food, but none on the drinks. Then they will gouge you on the drinks.


Horrible experience at Cat Ba Island.

Ask for more money.

She was shooting off at the mouth.

Totally humiliated I got out of there with nothing. Sounds like some of my experiences in Vietnam. That's why I'm not returning to Vietnam on my current trip.

Nutty Smith
03-07-11, 20:04
Hi guys,

I did rttf and searched for info on the Fortuna hotel night club but could only find info from 2008.

Would anybody care to let me know what the current situation in Fortuna hotel / boss club is?

Much appreciated. Fortuna is a good place to stay. My info is about 6months old. There is a nightclub in the basement and access is via stairs from the lobby. Girls can be intercepted in and around lobby on occasion. Girls will come to your room. I forget the rate being quoted but I wasn't shocked by it. The spa on one of the higher floors of the hotel is worth a visit. Girls negotiate for tips in the midst of their work. Most unfair, IMHO! The client is given a card on which to state the tip and to sign. Valuables have been secured in the locker room. All in all I can recommend.

NS

Mezeboy
03-13-11, 11:56
[QUOTE=Porklobster]I finally found the Hang Chuoi place: as I suspected, it is NOT the legit-looking massage place (which does, however, offer an excellent proper massage) , but a far seedier place further down towards the end of the road with a sign saying "heath services" (sic). Perhaps they have gotten wise to the ISG writeup, but the price I was quoted was 400K. Does that include everything? I asked, and was told yes yes, although nobody there spoke much English really. OK, previous reports had mentioned 200+200, so perhaps they want it all up front now, I thought, and entered. [/QUOTE=Porklobster]it looks you made the same mistake like we in the story about Hang Chuoi 28 as we gave them 400k and then no tip at all. Two days ago, we were leaving Hanoi and we came back to the Hang Chuoi 28 and nobody looked at us in bad way. They asked for 400k, we told them 200k, they said no and we tried to go away. Of course. 200k offer was immediately accepted. After the action, me and my friend gave 100k tip each and everything was ok. Yes, its a bit sleazy place, but thanks god for this relief.

Now I only pray for our Hanoi friends to not drink so much when we are together. 2x times we were promised to go somewhere, but all of them had excuses of being drunken too much at the moment, while they all the time before spoked about using boomboom services. I went to check this place today and there were two ladies that I would rate as 7. Price was 400k dong for massage and $20 for BJ. As the price was so gracy I didn't spend much time for bargaining, so their price stayed that way. Needles to say I didn't try their services.

Praj4
03-14-11, 17:46
Hi.

Travelling to Hanoi in March 2011 for the 1st time.

Can anyone suggest some girl friendly hotels in the action area.

Where is the action area? In the old quater?

ThanksI am on buisness trip to Hanoi in 3rd week of April.

I wish to know if anybody cares to answer-

1]Names of GF hotels? 3 star or 4 or 5 star?

3] Area of city where I should book hotel which is well connected with nightlife area?

4]What's best option for me? Incall or outcall? Call girl to hotel room or go to MP?

Thanks in advance

Praj4
03-14-11, 17:59
I am on buisness trip to Hanoi in 3rd week of April.

I wish to know if you care to answer-

1]Names of GF hotels? 3 star or 4 or 5 star?

3] Area of city where I should book hotel which is well connected with nightlife area?

4]What's best option for me? Incall or outcall? Call girl to hotel room or go to MP?

Thanks in advance

Praj4
03-14-11, 18:02
Pham van Dong is a street well west of the center of Hanoi, by taxi from the Old quarter you should expect to pay 100, 000 (5 dollars USD) if you take one of the mini cabs, if you take a mid sized prices goes up.

As for the cabbie he later tried to scame me out of 200, 000 when I was going to give him more then that anyways (dumb a*ss) so yeah fair warning don't trust the cabbies (most anyways).

CheersI am on buisness trip to Hanoi in 3rd week of April.

I wish to know if you care to answer-

1]Names of GF hotels? 3 star or 4 or 5 star?

3] Area of city where I should book hotel which is well connected with nightlife area?

4]What's best option for me? Incall or outcall? Call girl to hotel room or go to MP?

Thanks in advance

Mik Hcmc
03-20-11, 03:49
I am on buisness trip to Hanoi in 3rd week of April.

I wish to know if you care to answer-

1]Names of GF hotels? 3 star or 4 or 5 star?

3] Area of city where I should book hotel which is well connected with nightlife area?

4]What's best option for me? Incall or outcall? Call girl to hotel room or go to MP?

Thanks in advanceI'd suggest what every other forum member will tell you to do. Go back and read the forum. Try reading about the hotels in the hotel section to get a general feel for the country. There's an abundance of information if you read between the lines.

Just remember that VN is not like its neighbours ie Thailand, Cambodia, Phils etc, Not everything is what it seems.

Good luck calling girls to your 5 star hotels.

Johndao
03-21-11, 08:49
I am on buisness trip to Hanoi in 3rd week of April.

I wish to know if you care to answer-

1]Names of GF hotels? 3 star or 4 or 5 star?

3] Area of city where I should book hotel which is well connected with nightlife area?

4]What's best option for me? Incall or outcall? Call girl to hotel room or go to MP?

Thanks in advanceSorry for the bad news Praj4 but:

1) There are no GF 4 or 5 star hotels.

2)?

3) There is no nightlife area in Hanoi.

4) There are no MP's or other services with incall or outcall.

A simple read of the VN Forum would have told you (as Mik did) that Vietnam is nothing like the PI or Thailand or China, Macau, Singapore, etc. It's in its own league. Think N. Korea, but better.

JD

Blackfootballer
03-24-11, 07:24
1, girl friendly hotel 5 star, Hilton opera hanoi. 3, night time areas old quater, arround Hoan kiem lake with manny bars and restaurants, going to APPOCLYPSE, night club in HANOI hotel, dancing club in DAWWOO hotel. 4, call girls to hotel or going to MP are both available in HANOI.

JoseMarti
03-26-11, 09:03
Got to my room, changed and headed to Nutz bar. I actually forgot to set my watch and it was only 9pm (I thought 10pm). Nutz is in the basement of Sheraton.

Went down, there was no-one there except the staff. UGH, decided to wait it out. Got a beer a stool at the front side of the bar. The staff said the place picks up at 10pm. At 9:30pm a girl walks up next to me, chat for 2 mins and then shows me her phone "I come to your hotel"; I politely said no and she did not go away, hovered around since I was the only one there.

10ish, more people started to come in and the music kicked in. LOUD trance and house music. More girls showed up, all shapes and sizes. The pickings were ok. I finally ask one for the rate, she said VND 1Mill for all night. I said VND 1Mill, she accepted. Into taxi back to my hotel.

I had to register my "guest" at the front desk. No problem, went up. She asked for money up front. I refused and told her to leave if she wanted money up front. Argued for about 10 mins. She spoke no English so that didn't really help. She finally accepted. Had 2 round before sleeping. Her BBBJ was so so. I actually forgot to get my own condoms. The ones she had literally chocked my cock. NOTE: Get your own condoms!

Set the alarm to 7:30am, had to grab breakfast and go to a meeting. Woke her up got another lazy round. I wanted to let her out before I got dressed and breakfast. I gave her the 1Mill and she flipped. Said it was to be 200K. WTF? Got into another argument. She refused to leave. Back and forth, she did not budge. I was getting patient and decided to give her another 500K more just to her her out. That made her happy.

Then at the door, hig and kiss, she gets on her knees plays with me under my shorts, gets me hard again and starts BBBJ, then she gets on the bed, takes of her jeans and asks me to fuck her again. Huh? Hhhhmmm. Ok sure.

We have another round, she gets dressed and out the door. PHEW.

This is my first experience in Hanoi and it was interesting.

-JM

OC Ass Man
03-26-11, 13:19
stayed at the fortuna (on the capital floors) for recent visit w / malaysian coworker. good prices, good lounge, good hispeed internet, and. a seriously decent ktv downstairs. (it's not the sheraton or the hilton opera, but it's not much below them, which is good for hanoi hotels).

honestly, if you're on a low low budget, it's not ideal, but with an expense account. it's well worth it.

after dinner, we went downstairs to boss, the ktv, waiting for clients to show up who. failed to do so. their loss.

boss was relatively recently renovated from the looks of it.

on a monday night, there were about 75 girls out front in the entrance gauntlet saying "welcome, boss". all sizes, shapes, types (a saw a couple of likely eurasian girls in the mix).

we got to the ktv room, and asked the mammi to bring girls who'd be able / willing to go upstairs later. (not all of the girls will or can. some just do ktv, others will sideline upstairs, as well) she started parading them thru and my colleague and i started taking notes.

my first choice, #71 (classic tall girl in white who could have graced the pages of a fashion mag) , was sadly, scooped up by some other m#f#are in another ktv room while we were comparing notes and comments, and getting sidebar snarks from the mammi. my second choice, #146. nha, was a short, kinda chesty local girl with an almost latin butt. my colleague went with his traditional "young office lady gone bad".

after a couple of hours of johnny walker gold inflamed karaoke, we called it quits. the mammi advised that pricing for the girls was 100$us st. 150$us lt paid to the girl (and from what my colleague sussed from previous trips, the kickback to mammi was minimal, as she got commish on the room for having set up the reservation for my colleague). the girls left while we paid the tab. mammi advised that they'd join us upstairs.

nha joined me for the night, got undressed, dragged me to the bathtub, and scrubbed both of us up before we hit the sheets. didn't get much sleep. she was game for pretty much every option, but turned out to have a day job as a masseuse. which was handy. bbbj, daty, covered front and back work, sleepyhumping (no penetration that time, but i ended up coming on her back). i'd give her a 7 for looks (cute, nice skin in general, flawlessly trimmed bush and waxed pucker) , an 8 for service (she tried way hard, so to speak) , and a 6-7 for skill (knew her way around, but not all the tricks, so to speak).

after a morning rerun, a massage, bath, and some towel-snapping, i packed while she lazed in the tub soaking. kicked her out about 8 with a decent tip, her mobile, and slept soundly on the flight to bkk.

i'll stay at the fortuna again.

Chinkyman3526
03-27-11, 18:35
Pham van Dong is a street well west of the center of Hanoi, by taxi from the Old quarter you should expect to pay 100, 000 (5 dollars USD) if you take one of the mini cabs, if you take a mid sized prices goes up.

I went there with a cabbie contact, and the picking were slim at the early hour. After 930pm is best. You will see women sitting around in store fronts beside closed gated shop fronts. Drive slow along Pham Van Dong north of Hoang Quoc Viet. And when you see a group or ladies wave you in stop off and talk to them.

If you don't speak viet like I do then you can just use sign language or a pad of paper to negotiate. Always ask the price first. I saw a girl that was a hard 7. 5 here. The price was 150, 000 (yep not a typo) and another 100, 000 for wetting your whistle with her mouth before hand. This place is like eating in a food court or fast food joint you will get in and out quick no fancy dinning room.

So for a total of 250, 000 quick service, I prefer GFE myself but its good to know and pass on.

As for the cabbie he later tried to scame me out of 200, 000 when I was going to give him more then that anyways (dumb a*ss) so yeah fair warning don't trust the cabbies (most anyways).

Mantid
03-28-11, 16:52
1, girl friendly hotel 5 star, Hilton opera hanoi. 3, night time areas old quater, arround Hoan kiem lake with manny bars and restaurants, going to APPOCLYPSE, night club in HANOI hotel, dancing club in DAWWOO hotel. 4, call girls to hotel or going to MP are both available in HANOI.Can you recommend any MP's. I'm in Hanoi now. Thanks.

Explorerman
03-28-11, 19:38
Can you recommend any MP's. I'm in Hanoi now. Thanks.There are many. There is one across the street from Hilton. Try the Hoa Binh hotel. There also is one in the Saigon hotel. Most any place offering sauna and massage is likely to have friendly massage.

Mantid
04-04-11, 07:38
There are many. There is one across the street from Hilton. Try the Hoa Binh hotel. There also is one in the Saigon hotel. Most any place offering sauna and massage is likely to have friendly massage.I have heard about this MP across from the Hilton but can't find it and the cabbies don't know of it. Where exactly across from the Hilton is it? I don't see any sign of an MP across from the Hilton.

Went to Hoa Bin. Special massage was available for 200K.

Mantid
04-04-11, 07:48
Can you recommend any MP's. I'm in Hanoi now. Thanks.Apocalypse is closed, Daewoo Hotel had young kids (didn't appear to be any WG's) and the music was overbearing. Nuts at Sheraton has a scene, only a couple of hotties (many older gals with to much mileage) but that kept me busy for two nights. No sign of the MP across from the Hilton. Is it hidden somewhere? Will try the Hanoi Hotel. Thanks.

Blackfootballer
04-07-11, 20:08
Try AMG .121 Phung hung street, Diamond D .319 Tayson street, Dragon Fly .8 HANG BUOM, bAR Amazon 10 Bao khanh, Jam .61 Luong ngoc quyen, Civil discotheque . Tran quang khai street, hope you find some fun there

AussieDoug
04-10-11, 16:57
It was out the back / side door of the hotel.


I have heard about this MP across from the Hilton but can't find it and the cabbies don't know of it. Where exactly across from the Hilton is it? I don't see any sign of an MP across from the Hilton.

Went to Hoa Bin. Special massage was available for 200K.

Shuga
04-10-11, 21:07
Got to my room.

Into taxi back to my hotel.

-JMWhich hotel was that, JM?

Blackfootballer
04-13-11, 19:31
Went to the disco ZERO at 121 Phung hung to day, great music, nice porn dancer, great girls from HOCHMINH dancing in club HANOI, and sexy sexy dancers, making me feel like NEW CENTURY coming back again, I had a very good time there, your guys should come and check.

Tomasb
04-16-11, 19:41
Yes, it is highly unlikely to meet a girl in Halong Bay unless you have some game and inclination towards the backpacker set. However, there is one nice, and one not so nice, massage places on the beach promenade. The cute young girls sometimes walk up and down the street at sunset passing out brochures. Once you select the girl for a massage, and they usually hang out in front of the establishment during the evening, you can negotiate in their rooms. A few doors down are some much older ladies and it made me wonder how they can possible compete with the younger girls, unless they have a drastically reduced price. I also recall reading somewhere on the forum that there are some local and not especially attractive brothels in the non tourist part of town.

I for one would think that it would be quite difficult to find a local girl, pro or non-pro, to travel with you to Halong Bay. It did not strike me that Hanoi girls would be inclined to travel with a farang as you would find in Bangkok or Bali. Just my observation.

But you might be able to do it, if you have some time to spend in Hanoi to woo and having some Viet language skills would help as well.


Hello, JD and other Hanoi-experienced mongers! I'll be in Hanoi (first time) May 4. 7 and am looking to take a sexy girl to Ha Long Bay with me May 5-6. I've read a few pages back and gather that Sheraton / Nutz and Fortuna are probably some of the better pick-up places, yes?

The likelihoood of meeting a girl in Halong Bay is very slim, yes?

Somebody mentioned saigonescorts but at $250 / hour that is ridiculous for Vietnam. I don't even pay that much in the US.

If anyone has any contact info on a nice girl, preferably English-speaking and a little busty would be fantastic. Thanks, guys. Happy mongering!

WhiteHorse
04-18-11, 18:45
Hey,

I've been trying to find this place for a while. . Maybe you guys can give me some help:

When I first got to Hanoi I woke up early one Thursday morning and felt in need of a massage. Asked a xe-om in the O. Q. To take me somewhere for a "good massage".

He drove around for a while until we finally found a place that was open (It was 11:00am). I was new to the city and had no idea where we were. It was a massage place called something like "Eden's". Had a small LED sign out the front.

I paid 300 000VND for a 1 hour massage. A woman escorted me to a private room with only a tiny window on the door. Inside the room was a massage table, a private steam room (looked like a shower stall) , and a bathtub. She turns on the bathtub and motions for me to get into the steam room. Then she leaves.

I strip and get in the steam room. Wait about 4 minutes and then a different girl comes in. She's a bit older, maybe 34 or 35, but pretty and smiling, and a pretty good set for a Vietnamese bird.

I get out of the steam room. She gives me a full up-and-down look, smiles and motions for me to get in the tub. Then she washes my hair and gives me a scalp massage. After that she washes my body and gives the cock and balls a good wash as well.

I get out of the tub and she towels me off (again, making sure my dick was especially dry). After that, I get on the massage table and she gives me an unbelievable massage and tickles my balls every once in a while too. After she told me to turn onto my back, I was rock hard.

She asks "You want me massage baby?" (The only English she knew). She asked for 200 000VND and I accepted. Gave me a great handy while I fingered her pussy. Didn't mind when my fingers strayed to her asshole either.

After I came, she jerked me for a little while longer and then cleaned me up and gave me a face massage for a few minutes.

I've been to only a few other places since then, but I haven't come across anything similar to this experience. Do you guys know this place? Or another place that has a private bathtub in it? I can't stand the factory-style places with only a curtain seperating you and everyone else. Or the limp-wristed massages followed by limper HJs. The experience of her bathing me was so erotic. I'd love to experience something like it again.

Any help would be much appreciated.

WhiteHorse
04-18-11, 18:46
Hey,

I've been trying to find this place for a while. . Maybe you guys can give me some help:

When I first got to Hanoi I woke up early one Thursday morning and felt in need of a massage. Asked a xe-om in the O. Q. To take me somewhere for a "good massage".

He drove around for a while until we finally found a place that was open (It was 11:00am). I was new to the city and had no idea where we were. It was a massage place called something like "Eden's". Had a small LED sign out the front.

I paid 300 000VND for a 1 hour massage. A woman escorted me to a private room with only a tiny window on the door. Inside the room was a massage table, a private steam room (looked like a shower stall) , and a bathtub. She turns on the bathtub and motions for me to get into the steam room. Then she leaves.

I strip and get in the steam room. Wait about 4 minutes and then a different girl comes in. She's a bit older, maybe 34 or 35, but pretty and smiling, and a pretty good set for a Vietnamese bird.

I get out of the steam room. She gives me a full up-and-down look, smiles and motions for me to get in the tub. Then she washes my hair and gives me a scalp massage. After that she washes my body and gives the cock and balls a good wash as well.

I get out of the tub and she towels me off (again, making sure my dick was especially dry). After that, I get on the massage table and she gives me an unbelievable massage and tickles my balls every once in a while too. After she told me to turn onto my back, I was rock hard.

She asks "You want me massage baby?" (The only English she knew). She asked for 200 000VND and I accepted. Gave me a great handy while I fingered her pussy. Didn't mind when my fingers strayed to her asshole either.

After I came, she jerked me for a little while longer and then cleaned me up and gave me a face massage for a few minutes.

I've been to only a few other places since then, but I haven't come across anything similar to this experience. Do you guys know this place? Or somewhere else that has a private bathtub in it? I can't stand the factory-style places with only a curtain seperating you and everyone else. Or the limp-wristed massages followed by limper HJs. The experience of her bathing me was so erotic. I'd love to experience something like it again.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Explorerman
04-18-11, 19:38
I have heard about this MP across from the Hilton but can't find it and the cabbies don't know of it. Where exactly across from the Hilton is it? I don't see any sign of an MP across from the Hilton.

Went to Hoa Bin. Special massage was available for 200K. I like Hoa Binh too.

MP at Hilton is to the left across the street on the opposite side, probably 50-75m left. Go inside where marked, then up to first floor.

Explorerman
04-18-11, 19:40
Yes, it is highly unlikely to meet a girl in Halong Bay unless you have some game and inclination towards the backpacker set. However, there is one nice, and one not so nice, massage places on the beach promenade. The cute young girls sometimes walk up and down the street at sunset passing out brochures. Once you select the girl for a massage, and they usually hang out in front of the establishment during the evening, you can negotiate in their rooms. A few doors down are some much older ladies and it made me wonder how they can possible compete with the younger girls, unless they have a drastically reduced price. I also recall reading somewhere on the forum that there are some local and not especially attractive brothels in the non tourist part of town.

I for one would think that it would be quite difficult to find a local girl, pro or non-pro, to travel with you to Halong Bay. It did not strike me that Hanoi girls would be inclined to travel with a farang as you would find in Bangkok or Bali. Just my observation.

But you might be able to do it, if you have some time to spend in Hanoi to woo and having some Viet language skills would help as well. Does not hurt to try. Plenty of young girls that might go to Halong for $50-100. But might take time.

GreenBud
04-19-11, 01:51
Hello, JD and other Hanoi-experienced mongers! I'll be in Hanoi (first time) May 4. 7 and am looking to take a sexy girl to Ha Long Bay with me May 5-6. I've read a few pages back and gather that Sheraton / Nutz and Fortuna are probably some of the better pick-up places, yes?

The likelihoood of meeting a girl in Halong Bay is very slim, yes? I've only been to Ha Long Bay once, about 3 or 4 years ago; did not partake. But this is what I observed.

In Hanoi, the overnight trips you can book will have the option of spending the night on a boat in the bay or in Cat Ba Island. You can also do it yourself on a self-tour.

I'm assuming Cat Ba Island is the main mongering site. You also have a city around the ferry dock area which should have something.

Is there anything else besides Cat Ba Island in Ha Long Bay?

I stayed in the main area; I don't recall (many years ago, I might have forgotten) seeing any massage parlors, but then I didn't walk a lot and explore the entire area, just the main drag.

If you are in the main area, the local transport driver will ask you if you want a girl. The few I asked said the girls were 15/20 minutes away. So it seems the brothels those transport driver wants to take you to is outside the main area. Didn't partake because I didn't want to go to the boondocks with a driver I didn't know; probably was too paranoid; it should be OK.

This warning applies to every area, and not just Cat Ba. In post http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1041-Hanoi&p=1123774&viewfull=1#post1123774 The poster warned about a bad experience in Cat Ba Island.

I was told there is a good P4P scene for the locals in Cat Ba Island.

Ha Long Bay is a neat area. It would be nice if someone gave some good info.

Praj4
04-20-11, 10:23
Based on RTTf, was expecting difficulties in mongering.

1]Regular Hotels expect I'd of girl else deny entry!

2]with the help of taxi driver with little English; since had booked his taxi for whole day [6 Hrs for 40 USD] for meetings; decided to bait on his intentions / knowledge and visited after 7pm a KTV.TAN DO club Tel 04. 7687551. Turned out to be an expensive affair USD 120 for 3hr or less, fruit platter. 8 beesr or hard drinks and tip of 10usd per girl [tried 4]company. Quality of girls is 5-6/10. Karaoke set up was average. Was assured that after quitting selected girl will come to hotel for overnite [50 USD only] but she never turned up. WIR-no worth the cost to quality ratio.

3]next day visited another brothel place BICH NBUNG tel 37192938-rate 100usd for 60 min-+tip for girl-5 USD for local while 10 USD for foreigner. After solid pounding, girl realised the extent of long haul and played regular tantrums. Had to quit half way through!

4]To recover from the sexercise, visited a massage parlour.[I had kept my regular taxi driver for moving around overall expense on him 100usd for 2 days. ] MP was 15USD for 1hr. Could select young girl out of line up of 5 [looks 6/10]. But typically these Vietnamese girls start pestering once you are inside for tip which is quiet let down. They anyway don't understand an iota of english therefore its futile to any arguments! It's a catch 22 situation. But I could fingre her for 15 min in which she came, forget any HJ to me. Could suck her small boobs inspite of her feeble resistance which was probably aimed to loosen my purse [ tip 10usd]

5]Visited NUTZ bar in Sheratton thinking that quality of girls would be better but to my dismay.many were middle aged moms, hardly any free young ones whosoever was with her boyfriend! This is quiet unlike Holiday inn in HK!

Hece had to settle for allegedly 24 yr old with smaller boobs and ass but tall. Looks 5-6/10, but good natured.

After some disco dancing with her retired to a neighbouring hotel she knew. Damage. 70usd for 1 hr hotel included.

Conclusion- Good quality girls don't exist, if they exist they are not for P4P but already have boyfriends [husbands]. Or they have been exported to Hk or Makau! I had one viet one very GFE good quality girl at Darling 2 in makau.

Johndao
04-21-11, 04:31
Based on RTTf, was expecting difficulties in mongering.

1]Regular Hotels expect I'd of girl else deny entry!

2]with the help of taxi driver with little English; since had booked his taxi for whole day [6 Hrs for 40 USD] for meetings; decided to bait on his intentions / knowledge and visited after 7pm a KTV. TAN DO club Tel 04. 7687551. Turned out to be an expensive affair USD 120 for 3hr or less, fruit platter. 8 beesr or hard drinks and tip of 10usd per girl [tried 4]company. Quality of girls is 5-6/10. Karaoke set up was average. Was assured that after quitting selected girl will come to hotel for overnite [50 USD only] but she never turned up. WIR-no worth the cost to quality ratio.

3]next day visited another brothel place BICH NBUNG tel 37192938-rate 100usd for 60 min-+tip for girl-5 USD for local while 10 USD for foreigner. After solid pounding, girl realised the extent of long haul and played regular tantrums. Had to quit half way through!

4]To recover from the sexercise, visited a massage parlour. [I had kept my regular taxi driver for moving around overall expense on him 100usd for 2 days. ] MP was 15USD for 1hr. Could select young girl out of line up of 5 [looks 6/10]. But typically these Vietnamese girls start pestering once you are inside for tip which is quiet let down. They anyway don't understand an iota of english therefore its futile to any arguments! It's a catch 22 situation. But I could fingre her for 15 min in which she came, forget any HJ to me. Could suck her small boobs inspite of her feeble resistance which was probably aimed to loosen my purse [ tip 10usd]

5]Visited NUTZ bar in Sheratton thinking that quality of girls would be better but to my dismay. Many were middle aged moms, hardly any free young ones whosoever was with her boyfriend! This is quiet unlike Holiday inn in HK!

Hece had to settle for allegedly 24 yr old with smaller boobs and ass but tall. Looks 5-6/10, but good natured.

After some disco dancing with her retired to a neighbouring hotel she knew. Damage. 70usd for 1 hr hotel included.

Conclusion- Good quality girls don't exist, if they exist they are not for P4P but already have boyfriends [husbands]. Or they have been exported to Hk or Makau! I had one viet one very GFE good quality girl at Darling 2 in makau. Excellent report which absolutely reflects the utterly dismal scene in Hanoi for newcomers, business visitors, etc.

BTW, #2 above is Bich Nhung and the correct price is not $100 USD + $10 tip but 500, 000 Dong ($25) + $5 tip (100, 000) although I don't doubt that they asked and you paid what you you described.

Of course if you live in Hanoi or spend a significant amount of time there, you will make contacts and have a nearly unlimited supply of some Asia's finest young pussy, either for free or much cheaper than described. But it takes some time, work and effort and if you don't have the time it's difficult.

JD

Chesterfield
04-21-11, 21:27
Check out Kingston club on 54B Hang Chuoi. Take the Swedish massage for 390000. Exactly the same experience you describe but younger women.

Also check the VIP massage at Oasis Hotel opposite the Fortuna. 25 USD for 90 minutes. This is the only place in town open till 1 AM. Can show up at midnight and get a massage.

Enjoy!


Hey,

I've been trying to find this place for a while. . Maybe you guys can give me some help:

When I first got to Hanoi I woke up early one Thursday morning and felt in need of a massage. Asked a xe-om in the O. Q. To take me somewhere for a "good massage".

He drove around for a while until we finally found a place that was open (It was 11:00am). I was new to the city and had no idea where we were. It was a massage place called something like "Eden's". Had a small LED sign out the front.

I paid 300 000VND for a 1 hour massage. A woman escorted me to a private room with only a tiny window on the door. Inside the room was a massage table, a private steam room (looked like a shower stall) , and a bathtub. She turns on the bathtub and motions for me to get into the steam room. Then she leaves.

I strip and get in the steam room. Wait about 4 minutes and then a different girl comes in. She's a bit older, maybe 34 or 35, but pretty and smiling, and a pretty good set for a Vietnamese bird.

I get out of the steam room. She gives me a full up-and-down look, smiles and motions for me to get in the tub. Then she washes my hair and gives me a scalp massage. After that she washes my body and gives the cock and balls a good wash as well.

I get out of the tub and she towels me off (again, making sure my dick was especially dry). After that, I get on the massage table and she gives me an unbelievable massage and tickles my balls every once in a while too. After she told me to turn onto my back, I was rock hard.

She asks "You want me massage baby?" (The only English she knew). She asked for 200 000VND and I accepted. Gave me a great handy while I fingered her pussy. Didn't mind when my fingers strayed to her asshole either.

After I came, she jerked me for a little while longer and then cleaned me up and gave me a face massage for a few minutes.

I've been to only a few other places since then, but I haven't come across anything similar to this experience. Do you guys know this place? Or somewhere else that has a private bathtub in it? I can't stand the factory-style places with only a curtain seperating you and everyone else. Or the limp-wristed massages followed by limper HJs. The experience of her bathing me was so erotic. I'd love to experience something like it again.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Deptrai
04-22-11, 05:35
Based on RTTf, was expecting difficulties in mongering.

1]Regular Hotels expect I'd of girl else deny entry!

2]with the help of taxi driver with little English; since had booked his taxi for whole day [6 Hrs for 40 USD] for meetings; decided to bait on his intentions / knowledge and visited after 7pm a KTV. TAN DO club Tel 04. 7687551. Turned out to be an expensive affair USD 120 for 3hr or less, fruit platter. 8 beesr or hard drinks and tip of 10usd per girl [tried 4]company. Quality of girls is 5-6/10. Karaoke set up was average. Was assured that after quitting selected girl will come to hotel for overnite [50 USD only] but she never turned up. WIR-no worth the cost to quality ratio.I think the biggest mistake you made is keeping the taxi driver. If you spend enough time here in Hanoi, you would have realised that your Taxi Driver has made a fortune from you at the KTV and the FJ joint.

There are a couple of KTV joints which have close collaborations with taxi driver where they will bring unsuspecting foreigners and get chopped badly and then the taxi driver gets 50% of the revenue. And of course at these joints, the girls can promise the sky but will never appear in your hotel.

The FJ place that you mentioned, it has the same arrangements with taxi drivers that brings unsuspecting foreigner.

Muzungufotsy
04-27-11, 10:55
And if so where?

You can PM me thanks.

Blackfootballer
04-30-11, 18:19
No more place to change dollar at free market or gold shop, you have to change at the bank, the rate is ok at the bank now. 1 dollar exchange to 20. 400 vietnam dong.

Blackfootballer
05-01-11, 03:31
No more place exchange place in gold shop, you need to go to bank. 1dollar gets 20. 400 dong at the bank now, most of gold shop refuse to change dollar now days.

Muzungufotsy
05-01-11, 21:53
Ok thnks what about the euro? Is the rate close to the official rate too?

Blackfootballer
05-02-11, 10:19
The rate for euro at the bank now. 1 euro exchange 30. 000 vietnam dong. 1 english pound gets 34. 000 vietnam dong, you should come to the bank and change, because the free market now got closed after the vietnam goverment doing some tighten searching market, all the foreign currency can be exchanged at the bank and they got very good rate now, even little higher than black market, qiute opposite with the situation before.

JohnAppleseed
05-06-11, 13:00
BTW, #2 above is Bich Nhung and the correct price is not $100 USD + $10 tip but 500, 000 Dong ($25) + $5 tip (100, 000) although I don't doubt that they asked and you paid what you you described.Johndao, what is the address of Bich Nhung? And how do you find the quality of girls there?

Lex460
05-08-11, 00:54
Hello, All,

Going to Hanoi next week and wanted to know if the Sheraton Hanoi is GF and if not where are the hotels nearby that I can bring some action? Also any escorts site worth wild?

Lex

AdHome01
05-08-11, 06:25
Hello, All,

Going to Hanoi next week and wanted to know if the Sheraton Hanoi is GF and if not where are the hotels nearby that I can bring some action? Also any escorts site worth wild?

LexJust call them and ask. They will tell you their policy concerning guests. It's that simple.

Blackfootballer
05-08-11, 17:16
Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel at all, you will have a very hard time to bring girls there during day and night time, there are some security guards will be checking you all unless you and your girl check in the same time toghether. Although Nutz bar at Sheraton seems like a good place to pick up working girls but Sheraton hotel in HANOI is very unfriendly girl friend, answer your question so where is the friendly girl friend near by, I think Incontinental will be much better and nicer there, it is like a natural resort you can find in HANOI, hope this will be helpful for you.

Lex460
05-09-11, 00:53
Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel at all, you will have a very hard time to bring girls there during day and night time, there are some security guards will be checking you all unless you and your girl check in the same time toghether. Although Nutz bar at Sheraton seems like a good place to pick up working girls but Sheraton hotel in HANOI is very unfriendly girl friend, answer your question so where is the friendly girl friend near by, I think Incontinental will be much better and nicer there, it is like a natural resort you can find in HANOI, hope this will be helpful for you.Thanks for the tip, but I'm already checked into the hotel. Is there a ST hotel nearby?

JohnAppleseed
05-09-11, 13:30
Thanks for the tip, but I'm already checked into the hotel. Is there a ST hotel nearby?Try the Dragon Hotel opposite the main entrance of the Sheraton. Heard they have ST rates.

K Brew
05-09-11, 13:41
Try the Dragon Hotel opposite the main entrance of the Sheraton. Heard they have ST rates.Just went to Kingston Club. I wasn't sure what to expect when I went in as it seemed like a pretty legit place. I payed 430. 000 VND for a 90 min swedish massage. It was a decent massage but that's not really what I was interested in. I got a cute girl, who's name I don't' want to reveal without PM first because I'm fearful over any sort of reprisal against her from her employer. PM me and I'll be happy to give it to you.

When I got out of the Sauna she ran me a bath and I hopped in, that's when she started to molest me and I knew it was going to be a good time. She scrubbed my dick and my balls really nice and was very sweet to talk to. Her english is not spectacular but quite workable. She also gave me a quick BBBJ, like 10 seconds, but was too afraid to keep going as there's a window. She also gave me some LFK. I get a massage and then I roll over and she starts in with the HJ which she soldiered through to completion while I fingered her. It was nice.

I tried to tip her 200K VND but when I pulled it out she showed me a ton of stubs which indicated how much guys normally tipped her and the lowest was about 400K VND. So I caved and gave it to her. I also got her number and she said she'd be good for an overnight, but indicated that my cock might be too big for her. She requested 100USD which I don't think I'd pay. Also I want to take some Hardcore pics for you guys so what should I offer her?

BTW: the address is not 54B Hang Chuoi. It's on the odd number side of the street and a little bit north from 54B.

Face: 8.

Body: 7.

HJ: 7.

Attitude (or lack thereof) : 9.

Mileage: 7.

Massage: 7. 5.

Thanks,

KB

Tomasb
05-09-11, 14:37
Well, they must have changed their policy. This is a nice hotel with rates starting around $65 per night with some gorgeous suites available also. When I stayed there in November 2009, they did not appear to be GF though I only brought a girl back during the day. I would be surprised, even shocked, to hear they rent out rooms on a short term basis. Maybe you had a different experience or is this only hearsay?

QUOTE=JohnAppleseed; 1153430]Try the Dragon Hotel opposite the main entrance of the Sheraton. Heard they have ST rates. [/QUOTE]

JohnAppleseed
05-10-11, 05:43
Well, they must have changed their policy. This is a nice hotel with rates starting around $65 per night with some gorgeous suites available also. When I stayed there in November 2009, they did not appear to be GF though I only brought a girl back during the day. I would be surprised, even shocked, to hear they rent out rooms on a short term basis. Maybe you had a different experience or is this only hearsay?I've never tried getting an ST at this hotel, only heard from somewhere before that they are GF so the info may or may not be accurate.

Blackfootballer
05-10-11, 11:04
You don't need to find a short time hotel your self, just pick up a local girl, she will know where to find it, easy.

The Guy
05-10-11, 14:47
Sounds like you got a good performer. Great report. You overtipped but frankly better to overtip for a good performance than endure a poor performance. In general. 200, 000 is considered a generous tip and the upper end for Vietnamese visitors. Somer other clubs have the so-called VIP service, which usually means the girl washes you, then onto the massage. Similar at the Bao Son Hotel. 50 Nguyen Chi Thanh, but there you can also go with the non-VIP treatment.


Just went to Kingston Club. I wasn't sure what to expect when I went in as it seemed like a pretty legit place. I payed 430. 000 VND for a 90 min swedish massage. It was a decent massage but that's not really what I was interested in. I got a cute girl, who's name I don't' want to reveal without PM first because I'm fearful over any sort of reprisal against her from her employer. PM me and I'll be happy to give it to you.

When I got out of the Sauna she ran me a bath and I hopped in, that's when she started to molest me and I knew it was going to be a good time. She scrubbed my dick and my balls really nice and was very sweet to talk to. Her english is not spectacular but quite workable. She also gave me a quick BBBJ, like 10 seconds, but was too afraid to keep going as there's a window. She also gave me some LFK. I get a massage and then I roll over and she starts in with the HJ which she soldiered through to completion while I fingered her. It was nice.

I tried to tip her 200K VND but when I pulled it out she showed me a ton of stubs which indicated how much guys normally tipped her and the lowest was about 400K VND. So I caved and gave it to her. I also got her number and she said she'd be good for an overnight, but indicated that my cock might be too big for her. She requested 100USD which I don't think I'd pay. Also I want to take some Hardcore pics for you guys so what should I offer her?

BTW: the address is not 54B Hang Chuoi. It's on the odd number side of the street and a little bit north from 54B.

Face: 8.

Body: 7.

HJ: 7.

Attitude (or lack thereof) : 9.

Mileage: 7.

Massage: 7. 5.

Thanks,

KB

JohnAppleseed
05-11-11, 06:43
BTW: the address is not 54B Hang Chuoi. It's on the odd number side of the street and a little bit north from 54B.You're right, I did a Google search and the address is actually 53B and not 54B. Will check it out this week, thanks for the report!

Dodgy Asian
05-12-11, 09:30
Well I'm back from my asian tour, and here is my first posting of my 'conquests', ready to pay my dues to this site with thanks to all those senior / members who care enough to help all the noobs (like myself) who has rttf.

Firstly, there is some talk about gf hotel, so here is the one I used

Lefoyer HotelLefoyer Hotel.

39 Gia Ng&432; , qu&7853; and Hoàand Ki&7871; m.

Hà N&7897; I, Vietnam.

(04) 6288 5555.

It convieniently placed in the city centre with plenty of shops, restaurants, clubs and pubs around it. Off memory it was $40 / night, six floors fairly recently refurbished.

Unfortunatly I didn't have a great deal of time because of my ex was with me during my trip though vietnam. So after she went to sleep I head out to one of the bars 'around the corner' picked up this delicious and sassy girl who claims that she finished work at a nearby hotel. Li lian was her name and after a bit of slap and tickle on the dance floor and bar she confesses to me that she is WG as well and she could be had for 1. 5M LT. Albeit dissapointed, I was still very keen and althought I couldn't commit to LT she refused to budge on the price, in the end I was running out of time so I agreed and we quickly headed to my hotel. A quick chat to the night manager and his security guard they agreed with a 50, 000 vnd tip each, although I did have to get another room as I was sharing with my ex, it cost me $25 for two hours. Shit I was thinking to myself, this is costing me a fortune for only ST.

Anyways, separate showers, she cheekily went though my camera and help herself to my ciggies when I went to shower, in her defence I did leave them on the table. The moment I finished drying myself off she jumped me, BBBJ, slip on a condom and started the pounding. She takes it well mish with some light squirming which works well to turn me on, flipped over and she a trouper too on top. She wasn't too keen for doggy but changed her tune after slowly easing her into it over a minute with gentle hair pulling I had her pleasurely moaning deeply. I came during ponding her from behind lying ontop of here and while I was still inside her catching my breath she twists around, expertly whips of the condom and to my great surprise proceds to orally cleans me ups, she does rush to the bathroom to clean spit out though.

She returns, has a quick ciggie with me, exchange numbers and rushes off as per my request, I had to return to my ex and start packing for my trip to Saigon.

I've included a couple of her better pics so I won't bother rating her body, but service was a strong 9, with reasonably good GFE. I do have a couple more, not as great but will post if there is enough interest.

My trip includes saigon, Cambodia, Thailand and Singapore, so I'll post more as I have time. Peace!

Johndao
05-13-11, 06:05
Well I'm back from my asian tour, and here is my first posting of my 'conquests', ready to pay my dues to this site with thanks to all those senior / members who care enough to help all the noobs (like myself) who has rttf.

Firstly, there is some talk about gf hotel, so here is the one I used

Lefoyer HotelLefoyer Hotel.

39 Gia Ng&432; , qu&7853; and Hoàand Ki&7871; m.

Hà N&7897; I, Vietnam.

(04) 6288 5555.

Unfortunatly I didn't have a great deal of time because of my ex was with me during my trip though vietnam. They agreed with a 50, 000 vnd tip each, although I did have to get another room as I was sharing with my ex, it cost me $25 for two hours. Shit I was thinking to myself, this is costing me a fortune for only ST.

She returns, has a quick ciggie with me, exchange numbers and rushes off as per my request, I had to return to my ex and start packing for my trip to Saigon.

I've included a couple of her better pics so I won't bother rating her body, but service was a strong 9, with reasonably good GFE. I do have a couple more, not as great but will post if there is enough interest. Interesting report, thanks for posting it.

I have 3 questions:

1) Can you retype the hotel address so we can read it?

2) What is your definition of an "ex"?

3) I notice her arms are quite hairy (which I like). Would you say down below matched? Was she lightly haired, average or hairier than average down below (around her pussy)?

Thanks,

JD

Muse Fan
05-14-11, 17:45
Chose to go to this spot based off my location. I didn't feel like renting a motobike and it was within walking distance.

I read back to almost a year and a half ago and found two posts regarding this street. I also gathered from the posts that 200, 000 was the ticket price and 200, 000 was the standard tip. So I only took 500, 000 with me just in case of some inflation over the past year.

28 hang chuoi was referenced so I went to that particular place.

Walked in. 4 ladies sitting down in the lobby watching tv while the mamasan was sitting at the counter. They were about 6's or 7's I would say. 3 were wearing tight hookerish dresses and a load of makeup while the fourth (a 7) was dressed up in a more 'girl next door' outfit and didn't need makeup at all because of the natural beauty she had going on. I chose her.

The mamasan quotes 400, 000 is the ticket price. I told her it wasn't going to happen and that I will only pay 200, 000. She throws 300, 000 to see if I bite. As I begin to walk out she inevitably caves.

I go to the back with my woman to a cubicle made up of wooden walls that look like they were installed in a minute or less, no ac, no fan. Very low upkeep.

My girl's name is Chau if I'm not mistaken. She says she's 19 and she's smiling the entire time. I take of my shirt and she actually motions me to take off my pants which is new to me. I roll up my pants tight and place them in a spot where I new they would be safe just in case. She knows very little english (no surprise there) , but she realizes I know a small bit of viet and was happy to teach me a few more phrases while she massaged me. The massage was actually good but she cut it short to get to business. She starts blowing me but I gently pull her away and ask if she could raise her top and drop her skirt. At first she hesitates, but then after some cuddling and teasing, she takes off her bra, raises her tank top, and lets me suck her tits. She's actually getting into it, hugging me closer as I suck harder. We kiss for a little while as well. I could tell she was game for it based on the look in her eyes. Damn, she was making me hot.

I get her to continue blowing me and then I run my hand up under her skirt, make my way past her pantines and start to finger her. She makes some noises at first as if she's having some discomfort, so I insert my finger very gently til I got her wet. The BBBJ is very nice. I blow my load in her mouth. She took about 3/4 of it. Then she gently cleans my tip keeping in mind that a man can be very sensitive there after an orgasm. Some chicks just go straight into it making me jump. Then she cleans the hand that I fingered her with.

The whole time she never spoke of money. I get dressed. I hand her 200, 000 which she accepted with a great smile and much enthusiasm. We say our goodbyes, kiss, and I leave. That girl was waaayy too nice to be working there.

Ratings. (as far as massage parlors)

Looks: 7 as I said earlier.

Personality: 9. 5

Service: 9.

Site: 5, like I said, no AC, no fan, wooden stalls.

Value: 7, I've paid less for the same service in ho chi minh.

Would I go back? Definitely, but only for Chau.

Cheers.

Towel
05-16-11, 09:02
Did anyone try Pham Van Dong after midnight? Are the fishing good after this hour or completely a disaster? Anyway, I'll try to have a look tonight. If it is a disaster, I'll go to some tam quat far from the centre to relieve my stress!

Muse Fan
05-16-11, 16:18
I woud think this would go under the Other Areas thread, but since I saw a couple of posts regarding Ha Long city in this thread, I'm continuing the tradition.

I didn't go around much of the city and pretty much kept to my area. Plenty of cheap hotels on Vuon Dao street to choose your lodgings.

If you head westerly along the main street from Vuon Dao and turn right on the next open street, you'll find a few massage places down the winding street. Kareoke's are all over the city, but I haven't been to one in Vietnam yet and want to save haveing to experience one as a last resort or with a friend.

The touts claim they can take you to get massage boom boom here for 10$. I was pretty skeptical about it and from what I've read, chances are you might get ripped off while some few get lucky with motos.

I walked into one kareoka massage sauna place. The lady at the counter asked if I wanted massage. Then she quoted 20$. After giving her the look, and using my horrible viet we agreed to 150, 000 dong. I'm sure I could've got it lower after seeing how quick she accepted. Anyways, I ask to see who I'm getting, and she brings out a girl. Or should I say woman. Too old for my tastes. She said she didn't have any more girls and I thank her and start walking out. Then she offers herself. She was worse. She really wanted the bidness and was kindly, yet aggressivly still trying to get me to reconsider for a couple of minutes. No biggie, I thank her and move on.

Before I walked in I heard an old lady on a motorbike trying to hail me. She was waiting for me outside. Now normally I would never go with a motorbike tout, but it was an old lady this time so I decided to hear her out. She quots 600, 000 for full service massage, room and everything included. I get her down to 400, 000 under the condition that I pay after I finish. Normally when I pay for a BJ it's half that, and from reading the few posts regarding full service in this city, I was wiling to pay only that much.

1st girl she showed me was walking down the street. That was a no go. Too old and thin for my tastes. Then she takes me to her massage place which was just up the hill on the same street. A girl comes out to meet me. Her name is Cha. I'd giver her an 8. Young, smooth skin, and average body. I make sure the mamasan told her what we agreed on.

We go into the room. I check around and make sure there's no places where people can hide and place my closes far away from her. We get naked. She says she's 18 which I didn't belive for a second, but she looked damm good in her birthday suit. She sucks me off for a while. Nothing special. She even propped up her head on her elbow like she was bored while she BBBJ'ed. I forgot to bring my on condom and she slips on the tight, uncomfortable vietnames ones. I'm pounding her missionary and love the way she looks. We shared some kisses and she let me suck her tits a bit, but then she pretty much goes cold fish and I'm no longer enjoying it. Take that and mix it with the uncomfortable condom and I go limp. I told her if she sucks me off and let's me finish I can be done. I didn't want to stay any longer than I had to.

She didn't wasn't having it. I explained to her that if I don't finish then I won't pay the full price I agreed to. Then she whines and bitches and say's she doesn't understand. Oh, she fucking understood me alright. I put on my clothes and tell her I'll settle the bill with mamasan. I had to wait for mamasan to come back because she was out trying to find more busines. I explain that since I didn't finish I won't pay the full price. Now all of a sudden mamasan doesn't understand me and says I need to pay the girl. I said I would pay 300, 000 for the unfinished session and she agrees.

Due to all this I walked away and forgot to look at the address or the name of the place. But if you follow my directions, just go up the winding street (there's a bit of an intersection about 30 meters, (right takes you to nothing but a couple of kareoke's and the first massag / kareoke place I wnt to, left takes you further up the hill) and it'll be on your right hand side about 70 meters I would say from the intersection. There's a sign that says massage and the red light gives it away. I even asked her for her number for return business, possibly another girl, but she didn't give it up.

Total damage was 15$ but I'm sure it couldve easily been less. Got a little more experience under my belt, so overall wasn't a total loss,

Cheers and beers.

Dodgy Asian
05-16-11, 16:43
Interesting report, thanks for posting it.

I have 3 questions:

1) Can you retype the hotel address so we can read it?

2) What is your definition of an "ex"?

3) I notice her arms are quite hairy (which I like). Would you say down below matched? Was she lightly haired, average or hairier than average down below (around her pussy)?

Thanks,

JDSorry about that, stupid google.

1. LEFOYER HOTEL

39 Gia Ngu street, Hoan Kiem District, Ha Noi City.

2. Mine in this case is my ex-girlfriend, although I currently separated from my wife atm.

3. Yes, fairly hairly forearms but well trimmed pussy, so below average (which I like) and not noticable hairy legs, then again I did have few drinks with her.

But on the topic of her, it wouldn't suprise me if the night manager got her number when she left for future hookup for their guests. Worth trying the night time staff in any asian hotel for any quick (and likely expensive) company.

Qxeau
05-18-11, 03:43
thanks to this great sire, i wandered into oasis massage last night to check it out. having lived here for a while i have been to a few other joints on and off, but never oasis. it certainly is a nicely decked out place with good staff etc. here's how it went down.

upon arriving on the 5th floor you get off the lift straight into a large open lounge type space with comfy 'waiting' chairs. a guy approached me and we discussed which massage option. i chose the 90min vip massage with all the trimmings. he took me around to a room, let me in and then tried to get me to book a room at the hotel. wasn't going to happen! lots of beautiful girls, he said. well, i saw only a couple of the way through and they were nothing to get too excited about. so i waited. no option to choose girls, perhaps too early as it was about 7. 30pm. it's a weird feeling waiting for a random girl to come in.

anyway, in she came and asked "can i massage you?". well. she was very attractive, not too short and well groomed so i said yes. so, i stripped and she got the steam room prepared (the room has steam cubicle, hottub and massage table). this girl, tham, spoke pretty decent english, which helped. i got in the steam room and it got going. i lasted all of 5-7 minutes as it was too intense and small a space! so i came out and waited for the bath to fill. this is my first time getting bathed and it was lovely. lots of gentle strokes and scrubbing, ensuring all of me was well clean. very enjoyable and particular focus downstairs to set up the finale. as the bathing went on, tham got warmer and warmer towards me and we had good conversations and teasing.

so onto the massage. my expectations were actually pretty low here as i love a good massage. it started off slowly but built to be an excellent manipulative massage! she really knew how to get my body moving and it felt amazing. through it all she used her body well to dangle her hair over me, pull my face into her chest and grind her pelvis into me whenever she could. very sexy as well as therapeutic. by the time i was asked to roll over for the last time, the inevitable question "shall i massage pi pi?" came up. of course! god i was hanging for it by then.

and then came the most divine, gentle and erotic hj i have had in a very long time. she sat on the massage table well positioned for a lot of fingering and stroking. she made good eye contact as well, frequently. well, you know that us guys can interpret little well when being stroked. but it sure felt good to me! when i climaxed she was so good at gently finishing me, lightly pumping me and then warmly cleaning me up. then we had a small cleaning ceremony where again she took good care of me.

lastly was the tip discussion. i played dumb. these girls know how much they want / get and carry that little ticket stub book to "prove it". which is all a scam i reckon. but anyway. i offered vnd200, 000 to see what would happen."too small. look at my ticket book." was the anticipated reply. i had already decided that this girl was worth more so happily paid vnd500k without a second thought. she really was that good.

oasis really is a fair way from my home but it's a good venue. i am interested in any experiences people have had on pham van dong as that is much closer to my home. might check them out myself later this week! but, i will be back to see tham@oasis very soon. she's a keeper.

Qxeau
05-19-11, 17:04
Well, I thought it was good the first time. Tonight I returned, having booked the charming Ms Tham again. She is one helluva good plier of her trade. She fully understands that when a customer returns, you show that you missed him. And show it well.

Tonight there was no messing around with unnecessary stuff, just straight into teasing, rubbing, kissing and playing around while she ran the bath. Very very good fun. The bath, as you can imagine, was sensational. More groping than cleaning.

Onto the massage part. Which was as amazing as before, intermingled with much suggestive stuff that turned me on so fiercely! Finally onto the the "pi pi" (so cute!). And the usual hand job quickly turned into a blow job combined with kissing me all over and making herself extremely available for touching. Fabulous stuff. So naturally, after some time I totally blew my load, which she thoroughly enjoyed and happily cleaned up. No question of any extra tip, more than happy with the same as the first time.

Anyway, the upshot is I have a date tomorrow, her day off, and it will be one sensational night I am sure.

So, to all those lamenting the Hanoi scene, do not lament too much. Patience is a virtue and holds it's own rewards.

Beijing Lover
05-20-11, 16:10
Is there any relevant action around Mercure la gare hotel?

Is the place girl friendly.

Going there from Sunday to Wednesday and if there is any wingman around I would surelly appreciate it.

Reply via PM.

Qxeau
05-21-11, 16:58
The direction are good, the places are on the road between Hoang Quoc Viet and Xuan Thuy. Probably half a dozen or so smaller massage joints intermingled with a couple of large VIP joints. Definitely after 9. 30pm is best. Will do a proper report soon.


Pham van Dong is a street well west of the center of Hanoi, by taxi from the Old quarter you should expect to pay 100, 000 (5 dollars USD) if you take one of the mini cabs, if you take a mid sized prices goes up.

I went there with a cabbie contact, and the picking were slim at the early hour. After 930pm is best. You will see women sitting around in store fronts beside closed gated shop fronts. Drive slow along Pham Van Dong north of Hoang Quoc Viet. And when you see a group or ladies wave you in stop off and talk to them.

If you don't speak viet like I do then you can just use sign language or a pad of paper to negotiate. Always ask the price first. I saw a girl that was a hard 7. 5 here. The price was 150, 000 (yep not a typo) and another 100, 000 for wetting your whistle with her mouth before hand. This place is like eating in a food court or fast food joint you will get in and out quick no fancy dinning room.

So for a total of 250, 000 quick service, I prefer GFE myself but its good to know and pass on.

As for the cabbie he later tried to scame me out of 200, 000 when I was going to give him more then that anyways (dumb a*ss) so yeah fair warning don't trust the cabbies (most anyways).

WhiteHorse
05-21-11, 21:46
Awesome trip report! Thanks for that.

So the first time you were there you tossed her a 500 000 note. How much did the VIP treatment cost you to begin with?

Also, how did the date go?


Well, I thought it was good the first time. Tonight I returned, having booked the charming Ms Tham again. She is one helluva good plier of her trade. She fully understands that when a customer returns, you show that you missed him. And show it well.

Tonight there was no messing around with unnecessary stuff, just straight into teasing, rubbing, kissing and playing around while she ran the bath. Very very good fun. The bath, as you can imagine, was sensational. More groping than cleaning.

Onto the massage part. Which was as amazing as before, intermingled with much suggestive stuff that turned me on so fiercely! Finally onto the the "pi pi" (so cute!). And the usual hand job quickly turned into a blow job combined with kissing me all over and making herself extremely available for touching. Fabulous stuff. So naturally, after some time I totally blew my load, which she thoroughly enjoyed and happily cleaned up. No question of any extra tip, more than happy with the same as the first time.

Anyway, the upshot is I have a date tomorrow, her day off, and it will be one sensational night I am sure.

So, to all those lamenting the Hanoi scene, do not lament too much. Patience is a virtue and holds it's own rewards.

Qxeau
05-22-11, 08:25
Yep I tossed her 500k because she was that good. Cost 500k for the VIP treatment@90 mins. They have other options as well for less or more money.

The date. Well, let's just say that it started as a group thing with her friends (smart really) over drinks and karaoke and then we slipped off together to my place for the night and I got little sleep but was smiling form ear to ear all day on Saturday! Did it cost me? Apart from aching muscles (!) we have agreed on a longer-term arrangement. We click well, so from time to time I will take her shopping for fancy stuff, which is what she really likes. Kinda like an SB / SD arrangement without the upfront cash part.


Awesome trip report! Thanks for that.

So the first time you were there you tossed her a 500 000 note. How much did the VIP treatment cost you to begin with?

Also, how did the date go?

Nomanovsky
05-25-11, 22:31
Hello,

I an new to this forum. Sorry, if my questions may seem stupid. I am planning to come to Hanoi on business first time in my life on the 28th of May.

I know nothing about Hanoi.

Please, tell if Safitel Legend in Hanoi is girl friendly?

Also, I tried to find some escorts in Hanoi and I found only this one:http://www.tour69.net/ They ask the deposit in advance. Is this a real place?

What is currently the best massage place with beautiful slim girls: Oasis? How Can I find it? Could anybody write address and directions?

What about KTV? What KTV has the greatest girls selection?

Than you!

Towel
05-28-11, 06:33
I've been to Phan Van Dong street last night after a night out in Dracula and Temple. ANW, In Phan Van Dong, they have a lot of Tam Quat and Nha Nhi, but why going to a Tam Quat and pay the Mamasan and the girl when you can just drive 5 minutes more and find those little houses on the street! First, you enter with your motobike and after she closes the door! And now, you need to negociate the price. She asked me for 1 hour and half and two pops 700 000 dong. I refused and reply with 250 000. She said no. So I took my leave but she said after ok 250 000 dong (sorry if I overpriced)!

The girl was a 7. 5. Maybe between 25 to 30. She didn't do any BJ, doggy, only the fucking star. Need to be a little aggressive and she will do anything that you want, except the BJ. She was good! Nice pussy and nice ass (JD will like it)! The condition in this house was fine! I don't know about for the other but it was clean for me!

The only problem with Phan Van Dong is that is really far! I live in the south west of the City (near the centre). Be aware also of the cops (the ones in the green uniforms! The most dangerous ones) They have a lot in that place (Cau Giai and Huyen Tu Lien district). Maybe it's because of the end of the election that happenned last Sunday. Always have your helmet and don't drive like crazy!

I read also that they have a similar place near the west lake like in Au Co street. That street are still active or not? If someone know, can they just tell me and I will go and check it out!

Qxeau
05-28-11, 16:12
Good report. Exactly what part of Pham Van Dong is this house (or others) and how do you recognise them? I have only seen the Tam Quat and a couple of likely looking 'cafes'. Are the girls waiting outside and waving you in?


I've been to Phan Van Dong street last night after a night out in Dracula and Temple. ANW, In Phan Van Dong, they have a lot of Tam Quat and Nha Nhi, but why going to a Tam Quat and pay the Mamasan and the girl when you can just drive 5 minutes more and find those little houses on the street! First, you enter with your motobike and after she closes the door! And now, you need to negociate the price. She asked me for 1 hour and half and two pops 700 000 dong. I refused and reply with 250 000. She said no. So I took my leave but she said after ok 250 000 dong (sorry if I overpriced)!

The girl was a 7. 5. Maybe between 25 to 30. She didn't do any BJ, doggy, only the fucking star. Need to be a little aggressive and she will do anything that you want, except the BJ. She was good! Nice pussy and nice ass (JD will like it)! The condition in this house was fine! I don't know about for the other but it was clean for me!

The only problem with Phan Van Dong is that is really far! I live in the south west of the City (near the centre). Be aware also of the cops (the ones in the green uniforms! The most dangerous ones) They have a lot in that place (Cau Giai and Huyen Tu Lien district). Maybe it's because of the end of the election that happenned last Sunday. Always have your helmet and don't drive like crazy!

I read also that they have a similar place near the west lake like in Au Co street. That street are still active or not? If someone know, can they just tell me and I will go and check it out!

Towel
05-29-11, 10:18
Good report. Exactly what part of Pham Van Dong is this house (or others) and how do you recognise them? I have only seen the Tam Quat and a couple of likely looking 'cafes'. Are the girls waiting outside and waving you in?Do you know where is Metro? If you know where is Metro you just need to drive in that direction. You need to drive to the direction of the airport! After you pass the Hoa Bing park or a thing call Ford, just drive slowly. You'll see after maybe 1 minute of driving some girl waiting outside some little houses. Just make eyes contact and they will know that you are here for some fun!

If my explanation is not clear, I will try to give you a better hint next time cause I THINK I will go back this evening!

Have fun!

P. S. Sorry for my english. Am a french Canadian.

Qxeau
05-30-11, 00:59
That's very helpful indeed. I know exactly where you mean. Thanks. I will go and check it out later in the week.


Do you know where is Metro? If you know where is Metro you just need to drive in that direction. You need to drive to the direction of the airport! After you pass the Hoa Bing park or a thing call Ford, just drive slowly. You'll see after maybe 1 minute of driving some girl waiting outside some little houses. Just make eyes contact and they will know that you are here for some fun!

If my explanation is not clear, I will try to give you a better hint next time cause I THINK I will go back this evening!

Have fun!

P. S. Sorry for my english. Am a french Canadian.

Qxeau
06-01-11, 16:48
So tonight I went and did a reccie! And indeed, just as reported, there are probably 6-10 houses with a range of girls / ladies sitting outside prepared to wave you in. Additionally, there are 2 or 3 places before Hoa Binh Park / Ford as well. The range of available girls looked pretty decent from a slowish drive-by.

It will be interesting tomorrow to see how they react to a white fella pulling up for service.

Also tonight I crawled past the places heading back towards Xuan Thuy. There a couple of really nice looking options, including a cleverly disguised cafe that deserves investigation because the girls looked particularly attractive!


Do you know where is Metro? If you know where is Metro you just need to drive in that direction. You need to drive to the direction of the airport! After you pass the Hoa Bing park or a thing call Ford, just drive slowly. You'll see after maybe 1 minute of driving some girl waiting outside some little houses. Just make eyes contact and they will know that you are here for some fun!

If my explanation is not clear, I will try to give you a better hint next time cause I think I will go back this evening!

Have fun!

P. S. Sorry for my english. Am a french Canadian.

Qxeau
06-02-11, 15:31
Picked a place at random tonight in the sector between Hoang Quoc Viet and Xuan Thuy. Lots to choose from. I think I actually missed the place I was really looking for, tomorrow is another night.

Anyway, mamasan helps me with the bike and tells me 100, 000 to get in. No drams, this is expected. A girl takes me through. Pickings were not that great but ok. Say a 6ish overall. It's a very cramped row of curtained benches out the back. Very close together. I wriggle out of my clothes, these are placed on the bench with me so no chance of getting anything nicked.

The benches are just material over boards. Rock hard and not so comfy, but the pillow is nice. Place overall is shabby but dim so you don't really care. Massage of my back. One of those slapping massages. Nothing in them, probably better not to bother really. After a while, rolls me over and straight to work on the old fella. This she is good at. Pulls up her top for me and is happy to be played with. Sweet girl really. Gets me off nicely. Cleans me up and then sits with me to chat! Sorta cute. I don; t think they get many white fellas in there. My awful Vietnamese, her non-existant English. But somehow it works.

I eventually decide to get dressed when a few more blokes come in and the place starts to feel crowded. We walk back out front and I go to settle the bill. She says, I kid you not. 120, 000 all up. Really. 100, 000 for the space and 20, 000 for the tug. Now that's embarrassing. I give her 150, 000 and call it quits, still feeling like I ripped her off. But. I think she is hopeful I will be back.

Only if they get mattresses.

An interesting evening out. Will try one other place but. I think I prefer more comfort in the likes of Oasis or Kingston Club.

Has anyone tried any of the street girls lately that hang out in the park near the Opera House in town? Have seen them a few times and I wonder.

Blackfootballer
06-02-11, 22:13
According to what I read from Vietnamese newspaper, the brothel in Phamvandong s treet mostly very high number of the girls having HIV, also the girls arround opera house, they are chasing away by Vietnamese policemen all the time, I was scare to go there.

Towel
06-04-11, 13:05
According to what I read from Vietnamese newspaper, the brothel in Phamvandong s treet mostly very high number of the girls having HIV, also the girls arround opera house, they are chasing away by Vietnamese policemen all the time, I was scare to go there.South East Asia+sex workers.

I thought that Hanoi was clean but no I was wrong.

I think that you must consider that the majority of the sex workers have HIV and not only a certain place.

Qxeau
06-05-11, 09:30
Dropped in to KC the other night for the first time. Their menu of services is very enticing. I took a while to consider the options and decided to spoil myself with a 2 hour session including a hot stone massage.

All the girls were in other rooms or elsewhere in the club so I didn't get to choose (is this normal?). In the end that didn't matter. The girl who walked in was super cute (number 15) , lively and up for it. Call her about a 7. 5. Introductions and then she gets my gear off and hangs it up for me. Then she jumps me. And makes it plain she likes me. The feeling is quite mutual as evidenced! Eventually she gets me into the steam room. Which is of a much better quality and design than the Oasis equivalent. I enjoyed a lengthy steam as she ran the bath (and as a few of her colleagues popped in to see the foreigner.). Many waves through the steam.

So onto bath time. This is quite good but clearly her heart isn't in it. She gets me out relatively quickly and then proceeds to snuggle up and we make out for a good 30-45 minutes. Which is really good. She makes herself completely available and clearly enjoys the experience. She also make it plain she is up for a full service in the future, which is good to know.

The massage that follows is actually not bad. The hot stones are well done and I feel totally relaxed. I should say that she brought me off before the massage. Really nicely. During this she literally took my hand, unzipped her skirt and thrust me down her underwear. Very sexy. She also loosened her top so I could play with her perky little breasts. After a long back massage she could see I was well recovered so rolled me over and proceeded to get me off again. With lips included. Simply divine.

We parted company at the end with me quite happy to return and devour her even more. Or take her somewhere a little more private. The key here, I think, is for us as punters to be gentlemen. Gentlemen get more favours. Be nice and you will reap significant rewards. I guarantee it!

Qxeau
06-08-11, 09:50
I'm interested in what others have to say about what is on offer during the day in Hanoi. So far I am aware of:

Oasis Massage.

Kingston Club.

Pham Van Dong. Yes even daytimes. Both at the massage joint end and at the home-brothel end. Today at 9am I drove past and there were ladies prepared to wave me in. Shame I had a meeting really. And most afternoons a few of the massage places are open as well. Plenty of opportunity if you want it.

On the massage joints. Does anyone have any particular recommendations? Street number is just fine. Same for the home-brothel options. A couple of street numbers of tried and tested good times would be welcome!

Qxeau
06-08-11, 09:58
I'm interested in what others have to say about what is on offer during the day in Hanoi. So far I am aware of:

Oasis Massage.

Kingston Club.

Pham Van Dong. Yes even daytimes. Both at the massage joint end and at the home-brothel end. Today at 9am I drove past and there were ladies prepared to wave me in. Shame I had a meeting really. And most afternoons a few of the massage places are open as well. Plenty of opportunity if you want it.

On the massage joints. Does anyone have any particular recommendations? Street number is just fine. Same for the home-brothel options. A couple of street numbers of tried and tested good times would be welcome!

Richard Dawkins
06-09-11, 03:40
I've been to Esalen 3 (Nghi Tam) on a few occasions now, and my experiences have been pretty much in line with what others have reported before. 150, 000 ticket price the first time you go, and after that you are given a discount ticket that makes it 75, 000 from then on.

For the price, you can have a steam bath and sauna, for as long as you like, and then take a shower before heading up to your massage room. You are assigned a girl, and so far I have always been happy enough with the selection that I haven't tried changing girls. I'm sure it would be possible though if you weren't happy.

The girls I've had have ranged from a 6. 7.

The first time I went there, I had an attractive girl, probably mid twenties, who I have to say, wasn't the greatest at giving massages. She did however make it very apparent from the off, what was going to be on offer. When she started massaging my legs, her hands kept going north, until she had her hands inside my shorts and started playing with my cock. As soon as I was lifting myself up for her to have better access, she dispensed with the formalities, and whipped off my shorts, covering me with a towel (since there are small windows in the massage room doors.

She then spent the rest of the hour teasing my cock and playing with my arse in between sporadic massaging, which was getting me seriously horny. Towards the end of the hour, she started going into the negotiations for the tip. This is where things weren't all that much fun; we spent so long arguing over how much that my cock ended up getting soft. After about ten minutes I got her to agree to 400, 000 (which I knew was way too much) and she very quickly finished me off with a HJ. She let my hands run over her body a bit, but no under the clothes stuff.

The other girls I've had have spent most of the hour giving me a proper massage, and not playing around or teasing me much during that time. Then towards the end of the hour have asked if I want to have my cock massaged. I've said yes, and then they've gone to work. They've all been nice and fun, and let the hands wander a little, but again nothing under the clothes. I've tried to get a couple of them to meet me outside of work, but no luck so far.

After the business is finished, I've then signed for the tip. In these cases despite small protestations from them that they want more, I have put down 200, 000 and they have been satisfied.

Richard Dawkins
06-09-11, 04:12
I've been to Pham Van Dong a couple of times now, thanks to the info I found on ISG. Great resource BTW. I have my own bike, which makes it fairly easy to get there and to slowly cruise the street. Not sure I'd want to venture down here as a tourist, if I didn't know anything about the city or the language.

The two times I've been, it was to the home brothel type places, although I think I'll have to try out a few of the massage places in the future.

The first time I went there I stopped at a place where there was only a single girl standing in a doorway to wave me down. I parked my bike inside and we negotiated 150, 000 for HJ / BBBJ. She took me into the back room, and got me to take off all my clothes and lay down on massage table. She seemed to quite enjoy having a white guy come and visit her, and there was lots of kissing and playing around. She was probably only a 5, and I have to say that I'm glad the lighting was low, but she certainly made up for it with her attitude, and her fairly big tits.

She lifted up her top and dropped her trousers and panties, and was happy to let my hands wander wherever I liked and for me to suck on her tits. I was fingering her nice hairy pussy and playing with her clit, which seemed to get her seriously worked up. When she wasn't sucking on my cock, she was giving me a handjob and kissing me furiously.

She finished me off with her hands, and then proceeded to clean me up with a towel. But didn't seem to be in any rush to get me out of there. She was still kissing me and playing with my cock, and put my hand back down to her pussy. I played with her clit and fingered her some more while we kissed until she seemed to come herself. We got dressed again and I paid her the money and also gave her a 100, 000 tip. I'd like to try and find this one again and see if I can get FS.

The second time I went, I stopped at a place that had a few more girls hanging around outside, and this place turned out to be far less pleasurable. The mamasan turned out to be a bit of a dragon lady, and demanding money up front. I should have left at this point, but paid up the 100, 000 asking price and went in. She then sent me upstairs via a ladder, and told me to lay down on the straw mat on the wooden floor and wait for the girl.

A minute or two later a fairly pretty girl comes up stairs, and takes off my shorts and starts playing with my cock. I try to get her to go down on me with no luck, she keeps refusing. Next thing she's calling the mamasan who comes up and asks "money, money" and indicates another 100, 000. I paid thinking I'd then get this girl to go down on me, but instead, the mamasan proceeds to suck me off while the young girl sits there like a wet fish.

I just lay there and go with it, and started to start feeling up the girl. I get my hand up her skirt, and start to try and slide my fingers into her pussy. She starts whining, and tries to pull away. I was getting fed up by now, so forced the issue, and held her in place with one arm, while fingering her. The whining really got on my nerves, but I persisted, and closed my eyes so I didn't have to look at the mamasan (who wasn't very attractive) working on my cock. She finished me off with her hand and I couldn't get out of there fast enough. Definitely won't be going back to that place.

Don't know the addresses to either of these places unfortunately.

Richard Dawkins
06-09-11, 10:09
Went here a while back on a Friday night. Arrived about 11pm and the place was reasonably busy. I got myself a drink and sat down at the bar to watch the crowd and try to pick out the working girls. It didn't take long until a couple of girls came over to chat with me.

Both were a solid 9 and spoke enough English to have a bit of a conversation with. While we were chatting they were both being very touchy and were putting my hands on their legs, and letting my hands wander to their asses too. After a short time, one of them pulled me onto the dance floor for a bit of bump and grind. This one was very athletic, were a firmed toned body, and a great pair of very large fake breasts for good measure.

After a bit of a dance we went back to the bar and in between a bit more touching and chatting, the other girl asked if I wanted to go to a hotel with her friend. I told her that I wanted to take both of them back to my house, and asked how much it would cost. She told me that it was 1. 5M VND for each of them. I negotiated it down to 2M VND for the two of them which they agreed to, and shortly afterwards, I had them both of the back of my motorbike for the trip home.

The other girl was more dainty than her athletic friend, with a lovely squeezable bottom and small soft breasts.

We spent a couple of hours at my place with me trying out all my 3some fantasies and getting the full GFE with kissing etc. It was a hell of a lot of fun, and worth the price.

They offered to stay overnight, but once I'd had my fill, I asked them to leave. Never really trust a working girl to hang around while I'm sleeping, especially in my own home. When I went to pay them, a bit of an argument ensued. They tried to ask for 3M VND for the two of them, and I firmly told them that we had agreed to 2M VND. This went back and forth for quite a while, with me giving them the 2M VND and refusing to give them any more. They weren't happy, but eventually left with only the 2M VND.

It was a great night, and for an easy place to pick up girls in Hanoi, Nutz bar has to be the place to go. Not having to get a hotel certainly cuts down on the expense. Would certainly go there to pick up a girl again if I wanted the higher class GFE that is missing from the massage parlour services around town.

Qxeau
06-09-11, 15:37
The few times I have driven past recently, there has been one house with a lone, pretty decent looking lady, outside waving me in. Next time I am stopping and sampling the wares.


I've been to Pham Van Dong a couple of times now, thanks to the info I found on ISG. Great resource BTW. I have my own bike, which makes it fairly easy to get there and to slowly cruise the street. Not sure I'd want to venture down here as a tourist, if I didn't know anything about the city or the language.

The two times I've been, it was to the home brothel type places, although I think I'll have to try out a few of the massage places in the future.

The first time I went there I stopped at a place where there was only a single girl standing in a doorway to wave me down. I parked my bike inside and we negotiated 150, 000 for HJ / BBBJ. She took me into the back room, and got me to take off all my clothes and lay down on massage table. She seemed to quite enjoy having a white guy come and visit her, and there was lots of kissing and playing around. She was probably only a 5, and I have to say that I'm glad the lighting was low, but she certainly made up for it with her attitude, and her fairly big tits.

She lifted up her top and dropped her trousers and panties, and was happy to let my hands wander wherever I liked and for me to suck on her tits. I was fingering her nice hairy pussy and playing with her clit, which seemed to get her seriously worked up. When she wasn't sucking on my cock, she was giving me a handjob and kissing me furiously.

She finished me off with her hands, and then proceeded to clean me up with a towel. But didn't seem to be in any rush to get me out of there. She was still kissing me and playing with my cock, and put my hand back down to her pussy. I played with her clit and fingered her some more while we kissed until she seemed to come herself. We got dressed again and I paid her the money and also gave her a 100, 000 tip. I'd like to try and find this one again and see if I can get FS.

The second time I went, I stopped at a place that had a few more girls hanging around outside, and this place turned out to be far less pleasurable. The mamasan turned out to be a bit of a dragon lady, and demanding money up front. I should have left at this point, but paid up the 100, 000 asking price and went in. She then sent me upstairs via a ladder, and told me to lay down on the straw mat on the wooden floor and wait for the girl.

A minute or two later a fairly pretty girl comes up stairs, and takes off my shorts and starts playing with my cock. I try to get her to go down on me with no luck, she keeps refusing. Next thing she's calling the mamasan who comes up and asks "money, money" and indicates another 100, 000. I paid thinking I'd then get this girl to go down on me, but instead, the mamasan proceeds to suck me off while the young girl sits there like a wet fish.

I just lay there and go with it, and started to start feeling up the girl. I get my hand up her skirt, and start to try and slide my fingers into her pussy. She starts whining, and tries to pull away. I was getting fed up by now, so forced the issue, and held her in place with one arm, while fingering her. The whining really got on my nerves, but I persisted, and closed my eyes so I didn't have to look at the mamasan (who wasn't very attractive) working on my cock. She finished me off with her hand and I couldn't get out of there fast enough. Definitely won't be going back to that place.

Don't know the addresses to either of these places unfortunately.

Towel
06-11-11, 21:16
They have a good Tam Quat in Pho Vong street (near Bach Mai Hospital) and it's open very late (I was there at 3am). Girls are maybe 5 or 6 but they do a good job! It's very friendly (Papasan also) and the girls will try to practice their english or be very excited that you can speak a little vietnamese. But like every Tam Quat, you are separate by a curtain. But if you go late, like around 1am, normally, they do not have a lot of customers, you'll be probably alone! ANW, I got a good experience there!

Muzungufotsy
06-12-11, 03:44
They have a good Tam Quat in Pho Vong street (near Bach Mai Hospital) and it's open very late (I was there at 3am). Girls are maybe 5 or 6 but they do a good job! It's very friendly (Papasan also) and the girls will try to practice their english or be very excited that you can speak a little vietnamese. But like every Tam Quat, you are separate by a curtain. But if you go late, like around 1am, normally, they do not have a lot of customers, you'll be probably alone! ANW, I got a good experience there!What s the rate there?

Richard Dawkins
06-13-11, 03:04
The few times I have driven past recently, there has been one house with a lone, pretty decent looking lady, outside waving me in. Next time I am stopping and sampling the wares.As I said before, I didn't get the number of either of the places I stopped at, but I'll try and narrow it down a bit for you. The first lady, that I had the good experience with, was on the southbound side of the road, heading towards Hoang Quoc Viet. She was quite a ways along the road, and may well be one of the last places with ladies on offer. Looking at the map, I'd say that it was just before the traffic light junction with Co Nhue / Tran Cung. I drove past her the first time I went down there, and didn't see any action past this junction.

As I said before, she wasn't the most attractive woman I've ever seen, a bit plump and certainly not young, but had a great attitude and nice big breasts. She may not always be there on her own, as there were two massage tables in the back, separated by curtains, but no more, so a small operation.

The other place I went to, that I had the bad experience at, was pretty much opposite her place on the northbound side of the road. This was a much more "industrial" place, with at least half a dozen girls available. Somewhere I intend to avoid in the future.

I hope that helps.

Towel
06-14-11, 05:49
What s the rate there?It's 200k but I don't know if we need to tip or not. I handed her a 100k and she was surprised that I gave her money. We need to reconfirm that!

Muzungufotsy
06-15-11, 01:43
It's 200k but I don't know if we need to tip or not. I handed her a 100k and she was surprised that I gave her money. We need to reconfirm that!Mate we already pay more than vietnamese

Why need to tip?

You get sex for 200k or only BJ?

Qxeau
06-16-11, 11:56
This is a joint I have been to a couple of times. Most recently because an old favorite from Indara now works here.

It's a pretty good place. Nice staff, clean premises, covering all manner of options. When you arrive you can park your motorbike downstairs, underneath. Safe and secure. Upon getting to reception, an aging but kindly papasan will give you a locker key. You then head upstairs one floor to the change room. Get your gear off and either grab a towel for a sauna or some shorts for a massage. They have westerner sized shorts which is a pleasant change from other joints!

Regarding girls, I had pre-booked my girl by text message so she was expecting me. However, I saw a few others recently and they are all of a high standard. Do not worry about that side of things. Despite this being a sauna-massage place, there is a sense of decorum about it. The ticket price is VND120k for a 1 hour massage. This gets paid on the way out. My girl came in to the massage room, which is of a good size, concrete walls a small gap at the top corner where an aircom unit is shared with the room next door, a fan is also on the wall. It's clean, has a decent sized massage bed with a not so firm mattress and plenty of room for fooling around. On this visit, having not seen her for a while, we fooled around for a while, kissing, touching etc, before it really was time for business. Having got me nice and ready under the shorts she whipped them off, oiled me up a little and proceeded to give me the sweetest hand job combined with excellent anal play. No BJ here. House rule. But. All girls are willing to meet you outside of work shifts so anything is negotiable. And they are all worth meeting.

When you have finished, you are offered a shower, escorted back to your locker to get changed and then the girl will take you back to the massage room to discuss her tip. Usually with her tongue down your throat and her hands firmly on your cock. Smart girls.

Overall, this is an excellent place with a nice low ticket price and tip negotiations totally between you and the girl. Recommended for the Au Co / Tay Ho area. Staff will get your bike ready for you as you exit. Good service. Give it a go.

Richard Dawkins
06-17-11, 07:42
This is a joint I have been to a couple of times. Most recently because an old favorite from Indara now works here.This sounds like a place worth checking out. Where abouts on Au Co is it? Does it have a name to look out for? What sort of tip do the girls usual expect?

Qxeau
06-18-11, 02:44
Big sign, easy enough to spot. On the Xuan Dieu bend of Au Co. Tips range from 150k to 200k and up. Totally up to you.


This sounds like a place worth checking out. Where abouts on Au Co is it? Does it have a name to look out for? What sort of tip do the girls usual expect?

Droplet
06-23-11, 18:52
Big sign, easy enough to spot. On the Xuan Dieu bend of Au Co. Tips range from 150k to 200k and up. Totally up to you.Does this price include full sex or is it just a hand job price?

I had a look on google map. Could you explain more what do you mean by on the Xuan Dieu bend? I don't seem to find anything with that name around that street.

Cheers

Qxeau
06-24-11, 01:42
Just HJ. Other services available outside by negotiation.

It's between Ngo 124 Au Co and Ngo 200 Au Co. Google Maps is wrong a the moment. What it says is Au Co is actually Xuan Dieu.


Does this price include full sex or is it just a hand job price?

I had a look on google map. Could you explain more what do you mean by on the Xuan Dieu bend? I don't seem to find anything with that name around that street.

Cheers

The Guy
06-27-11, 12:03
I just finished up an extended stay in Hanoi and thought I'd pass this one.

For the short-term monger, Hanoi is tough. I suggest you do it the expensive way and go to the Fortuna, but it'll cost you $200 all night with peripheral expenses. Or do it the medium way and go to Nutz at the Sheraton where you'll pay $50 short-term or all night. Or do it the cheap way and visit a proven high-end men's massage parlor, but then you'll just get HJ for $20-30. If you're in town for a few nights and do not know locals who can guide you, your options are limited. I don't do the low-end places, so I can't comment on those.

If you go to the Fortuna, make sure you ask the Mamasan only to bring around the women who will do sex. Some only entertain guests in the Karaoke rooms. There are cheaper karaoke bars with pretty women but it's very hard to navigate them without local Vietnamese friends. As a foreigner on your own, I don't recommend you try on your own. If you just want a girl sent to you, you can call / text this Fortuna mamasan: Hoang 01686770888. Plan on $100 ST and $150 LT.

The easiest option are the men's massage parlors, but you have to know where the best talent is. It tends to change from time to time. For a while, I was going to the massage parlor of the Bao Som Hotel. 50 Nguyen Chi Thanh. Massage 200, 000 and most girls will generally be up for a meeting at a later time, just exchange cell numbers. I usually tipped 200, 000 for good service and 50, 000-100, 000 for mediocre service. However, over the past year, talent has deteriorated at that place. I also don't like wearing the shorts.

Some readers have recommended Kingston Club. 53b Hang Chuoi, and it's pretty decent. Around $20 for the massage and they'll bath you. Girls will probably meet up later. Tip 200, 000 for good service.

Best place at the moment is the "other" Oasis Hotel. 77 Doc Bac Co. You go into the restaurant and ride the elevator to the 5th floor (not the 6th, like the signs say). Never seen a foreigner in the place. Known by Vietnamese locals to have the best looking girls in town right now. VIP massage 450, 000 for 90 minutes. Big rooms. You can start by sitting in the easy chair and having the girl sit on your lap while you feel them up. Then she'll bathe you in the whirlpool, then massage. Unhurried HJ and the girls so far have been willing to meet up after their shifts (which, unfortunately, end at midnight). No shorts. The Oasis on Lang Ha is OK, but this one is much better. Tip 200, 000 for good service.

For long-timers in Hanoi, you have many options. There are so many girls / women who want to meet a Westerner to practice English or try something different. Just put an ad in any of the dating websites or even in the New Hanoian. It's like fishing. You'll pull in some attractive ones and some unattractive ones. As someone else on this site said, most wlomen will be longing for sex with you by the 3rd date. In fact, some Vietnamese women seem to be starving for sex. Best to invite them to your own apartment. They're more conflicted than Western women about sex, sometimes feel guilty but at the same time beg you not to stop.

Pluses of Viet girls: Much easier to get one with flat tummy, no kid than in Thailand, but they are less skilled in sex. Viet men make any foreigner look good to them. Lots of pent-up sexuality and fantasies with Western men. That can be fun.

Minuses of Viet girls: Bad teeth. The man really has to take the initiative, depending what you want to do.