Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[Tiger 888]

You can try Vien Dong hotel, they have a famous massage inside.To me Vien Dong Hotel felt like a rip off. Trying hard for an astronomical tip for a HJ. I won't return.

[OnTheLookOut]

I have noted a couple of comments that CIM is not available.

Last week went to unload and had good luck as the young 18 year old took the lot. And then emptied her mouthfull into a tissue.

This was at 467 or 469 Thuy Khue St and cost was a bit high but enjoyed the enthusiastic gals work.

Have also had CIM at 25 Ha Hoi. Closer to the old quarter but prices vary though the gals are quite pretty. 6-7s is normal.

So its just a case of trying a few different places.

[Dewdrops]

Is there any place- bar, red light area, Street workers where pregnant girls can be available?

[Tank Not Mt]

Is there any place- bar, red light area, Street workers where pregnant girls can be available?Saw some in the backpack area a few months ago-Feb 2013

[Dewdrops]

Can you please be specific about area, charge, English skills, photos if any? Thanks.


Saw some in the backpack area a few months ago-Feb 2013

[CitySpace]

Asian expat new here in hcmc. Anyone keep to hit the hot toc together?

[Volpone]

Write me in private CitySpace.

[CitySpace]

Write me in private CitySpace.Can't find a pm button. Seems to say if I post email address membErship be deleted. What about phone number?

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[MangaMan66]

Went to Club 91 tonight and was talking with one of the girls. They said the police have been raiding the girlie bars on HBT. They closed down Clubs 29, 49, and 51, which I confirmed when I walked past them at 08:30 PM and saw them locked up. The girls are afraid of the crackdown now, and can't go home with customers before midnight, so no barfines. However, they are willing to meet you at your hotel after they got off work at midnight, and you don't have to worry about paying a barfine.

[Waste Mgmt]

I avoid asking questions- especially of the "asked / answered" variety. I am reading conflicting information on this, so. Q:

Posts on other sites seem to indicate that things have relaxed in so far as girls in your 5* hotel room (ie: Hyatt or Intercontinental). The posts indicate allowing Vietnamese girlfriends stay without hassle (ie: REAL girlfriends- but still, this is against the law also) , and no issues bringing girls in the afternoon or before 11. They do indicate that if she appears to be spending the night that there may be a phone call, but that anything but a sleepover seems to be without incident.

Is this in line with board experiences? Any input based upon relatively recent experience would be most welcome. In any event, given the recent crackdowns, seems I've picked a poor time for my first trip to Vietnam! Be that as it may, I will be in the area and I got a ridiculously great rate at the Intercontinental, so I am going in Late August- hell or high water. Of which, there could possibly be both given the time of the year!

Cheers

[Muse Fan]

I avoid asking questions- especially of the "asked / answered" variety. I am reading conflicting information on this, so. Q:

Posts on other sites seem to indicate that things have relaxed in so far as girls in your 5* hotel room (ie: Hyatt or Intercontinental). The posts indicate allowing Vietnamese girlfriends stay without hassle (ie: REAL girlfriends- but still, this is against the law also) , and no issues bringing girls in the afternoon or before 11. They do indicate that if she appears to be spending the night that there may be a phone call, but that anything but a sleepover seems to be without incident.

Is this in line with board experiences?

CheersDuring the day it's no problem at all. You can bring anyone you like into the room. If it's a viet chick, then you should definitely expect a phone call or knock on the door around 930 or so.

This applies to the kinds of hotels you're talking about. Not the cheaper ones.

[FriendlyPlanet]

Is this in line with board experiences? Any input based upon relatively recent experience would be most welcome. In any event, given the recent crackdowns, seems I've picked a poor time for my first trip to Vietnam! Be that as it may, I will be in the area and I got a ridiculously great rate at the Intercontinental, so I am going in Late August- hell or high water. Of which, there could possibly be both given the time of the year!

CheersPointbreak? If so, note that is the Residence side, so only a doorman to slip by, and probably less follow up. Will be there tomorrow night, so if I get lucky will post about whether or not there is a knock. 5,000 points / night, or $40, for an 800 sq ft 1 bedroom apartment at an Intercontinental- unbelievable! All gone now, though.

Friendly

[Mik Hcmc]

Pointbreak? If so, note that is the Residence side, so only a doorman to slip by, and probably less follow up. Will be there tomorrow night, so if I get lucky will post about whether or not there is a knock. 5,000 points / night, or $40, for an 800 sq ft 1 bedroom apartment at an Intercontinental- unbelievable! All gone now, though.

FriendlyThe buffet resturant on the ground floor of the Intercontinental has a good choice, We've eaten there a couple times and you can get pretty much whatever you want cooked up for you (steaks, roasts, seafood risoto etc) while you graze along on the "salad and sushi bar" including the chocolate fountain.

It also includes free flowing wine and beer.

Wendella mate, can you free up some room in your Inbox cheers.

[Wendella]

Wendella mate, can you free up some room in your Inbox cheers.Just did that.

[Wendella]

I was curios about something. I sometimes pass through an area that has a few cafe oms on both sides of the street. Their appearance is always the same, with the potted plants outside, some Christmas tree lights strung around the entrance, and also and of course very dark inside.

There is one place, though, that sometimes looks just like the rest of them, but at other times it has its lights inside turned up much brighter (pink color). Does this mean anything? For obvious reasons they usually keep these places dark inside.

Also, I can't remember which members here are most knowledgeable on this topic, so if anyone is who knows a bit about these would be ok with giving some advice, please PM me.

Thanks

[FriendlyPlanet]

The buffet resturant on the ground floor of the Intercontinental has a good choice, We've eaten there a couple times and you can get pretty much whatever you want cooked up for you (steaks, roasts, seafood risoto etc) while you graze along on the "salad and sushi bar" including the chocolate fountain.

It also includes free flowing wine and beer.Just finished my stay at the Intercontinental Residence. Rooms were really nice- 1 bedroom apartments, with full size fridge and a very comfortable king sized bed.

There is a 24 hour check in desk, so I assume you would have the same options as other 5 star hotels- can sneak a girl in during the day or early evening, as long as she's dressed like a civilian, but expect a knock at night. Might be able to sneak in through the basement carpark, but would assume they have security down there as well.

I didn't get a chance to check because I only had limited time and didn't find a girl to take home. Best option for me was the B&G's on NPK; most of the places around Koreatown still look closed.

The best food at the Intercontinental, I think, is at Basilicos, the Italian restaurant on the Residence side. As good as food I've had in Italy, and very decent prices for the quality.

Friendly

[TuanNguyen]

Is there any place- bar, red light area, Street workers where pregnant girls can be available?Hi contact [Email address deleted by Admin]

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[John Traveller]

Can anybody confirm that this still is the case. No blocking of the ISG site?


No problems over the lat three years over ISG access over the last 3 years and we get access to most of the sites tht are actually blocked in Thailand. I know they block some viet language sex sites from UK and I think the notorious naughty Nigel site.

[D Cups]

I have been able to access ISG in Ho Chi Minh City.


Can anybody confirm that this still is the case. No blocking of the ISG site?

[AdHome01]

"Can anybody confirm that this still is the case. No blocking of the ISG site?"

This is still the case. I've never had a problem pulling up ISG in Vietnam.

[Danish Traveler]

I am an experienced traveler who have been lots of times in Russia and Ukraine. Next week will be my first trip to Vietnam and I will love some help. Would even love to go out with an experienced moger here. I enjoy a couple of beers, a good talk and some flirting with the ladies. There is a lot more to this hobby than just the sex. Would like to see a BJ bar and the moto girls. But am much more into clubs than sex bars. I be there wedensday for two weeks if someone wants to meet up.

[Klob25]

Well Saigon is endless and woman know what to ask for, so be prepared to bargin unless you can't be bothered. (which happens). If you want a handjob and a spa, etc I would go the windsor hotel. Cost is about 300,000 for foot and back massage. I tip about 500,000 VND well above market rates but my girl knows I am a good tipper and work it very very nice. U can go for a work around windsor and find some hotel. Just walk in and ask how much. It can cost 500,000 to a 1,000,000 vnd for full service. I have had one girl that swallows like a champ, don't ask for anal just lube and go for it. Had a nice girl that used to say no to anal, at the end of the session she was loving it and bending over like a champ. Now I just walk in, she blows me like crazy, self lubes her ass and rides my cock with her cute hole. The older ones are more willing and can be a a lot of fun. Nutshell don't be scared to ask, spend if it makes you happy. I have had a different blow job every morning from a different girl.

[WaterTraveller]

I am in the city now and would like to check out an area for easy cheap chicks and hotels that I was told from a guy from France and his Vietnamese wife when I was travelling thru the north. She is originally from Ho Chi Minh.

Would like to meet someone to go check it out but will try to find a taxi driver that can speak a bit more English then the rest of them. It s a fair.

Distance from the centre and like when learning a new area is 9 end more on taxis than the chick but overall when I find sometuing good it's worth it.

Because I repeat.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Am visiting HCMC again in three weeks.

So thought I'd ask the experts if any of you know of where one might get a Nuru or Nuru style wet massage body slide. (If you don't know what that is then search online and watch some videos and you'll see.)

Really like it in Oz, but very expensive.

Would be expensive also in HCMC, but comparatively it will be much cheaper.

Looking forward to hearing back from you.

[WaterTraveller]

After going to a shit hole on the same street looking for ben nys and getting totally bad service for 200 figured out can' be at the right place so told my idiot taxi driver to take a hike started walking and there it was, but the woman told me it was closed, this was at 5 p. M but don't if for the day or shut down.

Continued walking and seen bien tien or something, went in 120k. 100 tip pretty good, chick seemed surprised about tip, no wonder the dude next to my stall gave his 400k, fuck it's only a blow job. In comparison I had an excellent Columbiana at the Boca Terrena in pc for the same price.

These Vietnamese woman really need to get a grasp on reality.

Thanks for the info previously posted, exploring and will report any new findings not previously mentioned.

[Johndao]

Am visiting HCMC again in three weeks.

So thought I'd ask the experts if any of you know of where one might get a Nuru or Nuru style wet massage body slide. (If you don't know what that is then search online and watch some videos and you'll see.)

Really like it in Oz, but very expensive.

Would be expensive also in HCMC, but comparatively it will be much cheaper.

Looking forward to hearing back from you.Unfortunately you will find this absolutely nowhere in Vietnam. Wrong country for anything new or unusual or even fun. Try Thailand.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Unfortunately you will find this absolutely nowhere in Vietnam. Wrong country for anything new or unusual or even fun. Try Thailand.Thanks JD.

Thought that would be the response.

Will just have to stay traditional.

Any suggestions for a good massage around Hai Ba Trung. As am staying there at AAEM again on early August.

[Waste Mgmt]

Just finished my stay at the Intercontinental Residence. Rooms were really nice- 1 bedroom apartments, with full size fridge and a very comfortable king sized bed.

There is a 24 hour check in desk, so I assume you would have the same options as other 5 star hotels- can sneak a girl in during the day or early evening, as long as she's dressed like a civilian, but expect a knock at night. Might be able to sneak in through the basement carpark, but would assume they have security down there as well.

I didn't get a chance to check because I only had limited time and didn't find a girl to take home. Best option for me was the B&G's on NPK; most of the places around Koreatown still look closed.

The best food at the Intercontinental, I think, is at Basilicos, the Italian restaurant on the Residence side. As good as food I've had in Italy, and very decent prices for the quality.

FriendlyThank you for the update. I would think that the Residence would be more lax. Surely the expats who are actually staying longer term cannot be hassled about having 'girlfriends' stay the night. I would guess that both the expats and the IC Residence argument would be that it is not a hotel- clearly, as the hotel is on the other side. This is a residence- by name! I will test it and report back.

[John Traveller]

In HCMC I noticed these girls on scooters offering a ride and a "ride". A funny way of doing it, BTW. I have read this thread but I haven't found any conclusion on whether it's a good idea to go with them or not. What's the chance of a rip-off or any other bad experience?

Anyway, this city seems to be not so interesting now, but what about the future? If the goverment hadn't been so strict I have a feeling it could have been pretty good. (Also thinking about the situation pre-1975.) Well, maybe not like that again in our lifetime.

[BkkExpat]

In HCMC I noticed these girls on scooters offering a ride and a "ride". A funny way of doing it, BTW. I have read this thread but I haven't found any conclusion on whether it's a good idea to go with them or not. What's the chance of a rip-off or any other bad experience?

Anyway, this city seems to be not so interesting now, but what about the future? If the goverment hadn't been so strict I have a feeling it could have been pretty good. (Also thinking about the situation pre-1975.) Well, maybe not like that again in our lifetime.Hi John Traveller,

To take a ride with those girls is generally a really bad idea, the chances of you getting into trouble, anything from getting ripped off to losing your belongings or even worse is extremely high. Simply not worth the risks. I live and work here in Saigon.

Cheers

[MutantChicken]

Unfortunately you will find this absolutely nowhere in Vietnam. Wrong country for anything new or unusual or even fun. Try Thailand.Prob some of the high end spa might offer it's as some kind of skin treatments.

[OzzieSuds]

Am visiting HCMC again in three weeks.

So thought I'd ask the experts if any of you know of where one might get a Nuru or Nuru style wet massage body slide. (If you don't know what that is then search online and watch some videos and you'll see.)

Really like it in Oz, but very expensive.

Would be expensive also in HCMC, but comparatively it will be much cheaper.

Looking forward to hearing back from you.The mecca for this (and the red rope) is the Shanghai Hotel Health Centre in Shanghai.

[Wendella]

Drove up Hai Ba Trung yesterday to see that 91 was shuttered up and all their signage removed, no lights on inside.

[AmericanThief]

End of the line, there is no P4P in Ho Chi Minh. It's over.

[D Cups]

End of the line, there is no P4P in Ho Chi Minh. It's over.Not really. See my post in the photo section.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Drove up Hai Ba Trung yesterday to see that 91 was shuttered up and all their signage removed, no lights on inside.All HBT is closed, but there are shops in all the side streets, Dong Du, Le Than Ton, and others.

All openly working with girls and billiard tables begins frosted glass.

In fact had one yesterday afternoon on Le Than Ton.

Will be trying to get a take out LT later tonight.

[Djle7159]

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/society/81347/the--rules--in-sex-rings-for-foreigners.html

[Runners]

Anybody here who knows any shops where I can buy Viagra / Cialis in HCM?

Are they public sold in any pharmacy shops in HCM?

[OzzieSuds]

Anybody here who knows any shops where I can buy Viagra / Cialis in HCM?

Are they public sold in any pharmacy shops in HCM?Yup! Yup! Yup!

[Runners]

Yup! Yup! Yup!And what do you mean with Yup! Yup! Yup!

[AmericanThief]

Anybody here who knows any shops where I can buy Viagra / Cialis in HCM?

Are they public sold in any pharmacy shops in HCM?Its all fake, as is everything else in this country. You go to a clinic and get the real thing from a doctor.

[Runners]

Its all fake, as is everything else in this country. You go to a clinic and get the real thing from a doctor.So I need to visit a clinic first and get a receipt instead of just enter a pharmacy and buy it?

[AmericanThief]

If you want real viagra, go to a clinic that has its own pharmacy.

Victoria's Clinic is a good one, they have English service.

If you want fake viagra, go to any pharmacy and they will have it.

Even the street coffee here is fake these days. Roasted soy beans with coffee flavor and milk powder.

[Runners]

If you want real viagra, go to a clinic that has its own pharmacy.

Victoria's Clinic is a good one, they have English service.

If you want fake viagra, go to any pharmacy and they will have it.

Even the street coffee here is fake these days. Roasted soy beans with coffee flavor and milk powder.So you mean I can enter just any pharmacy and buy any fake Viagra such as Kamagra?

I will go to a pharmacy and ask for Viagra or Kamagra to check out if they provide it for me without any previous clinic visit.

I am currently in district 1 and there is so many girls available so I must improve my "amount of sweet girls per day" in my hotel room.

[Wendella]

Drove up Hai Ba Trung yesterday to see that 91 was shuttered up and all their signage removed, no lights on inside.Well it seems as if the reports of its death were greatly exaggerated.

91 sure did look permanently closed last week. All the signage was gone (neon) and the place shuttered up. Well, last night it was open again, but with just a barely noticeable old-style painted sign way up above the doors. Inside they replaced all the bar stools and little tables with big comfy chairs and sofas. Looks strange. No more dark glass, so you can walk by and see in. And maybe 10 or so girls inside, but not of the same calibre as before, but then again still a step up from all the other places around there. That's the thing, there are bars are open, but they're all full of ones who aren't too enticing. They're generally older, fatter, or just not as pretty as what was out there before. Your chances of finding a young hottish one are about nil now. For example, your chances of doing that are better now in Pham Ngu Lao. That hasn't been the case in a long long time.

Thien Loc was closed last night, and this time I won't make the mistake of saying "permanently".

[MutantChicken]

Quick FR. To say I prefer BBBJ is a understatement on avergae I get 3-4 BJ a week so conservatively I get over 100bbbj a year. So when I say WOW to a bbj then you know its something worth mentioning. Do admittedly I factor in the cost of a BJ ie 5-10 each I'm not honna complain, I'm not be like those newbies who come here expect somethimng from a porn vid for 10 dolar, but when you do and its ten dollars. Well it's def worth a mention.

So today I went to a BBBJ massage that I have been aware of for years but I never went to because frankly it's quite well known amongst the local Viets. So I expected not great service, but since I ahead a free ticket I decided what not.

Normal cost is 100k normal 300k VIP, the facilities a little old but hey you going for the BJ. I doidnt get any girls numbers so I requested a random. The girl they sent me was ok. Prob 27yr old, slim a cup. But as it was a experiement unless she was ugly I would accept she was about 6.5.

Friendly chit chat some flirtation, but basically slightly better than piano massage.

After the, massage she asked me to lay on my stomach again there she licks the whole of my back and neck, then she licked my ass crack and the part thats a bit lower than your balls but before your ass. She did that for 5mins. Felt good.

Then she fliped me over and sucked and licked my balls and inner thight for anotehr 10mins alternating between my nipples and also pay attention to my shaft.

Then she started giving a wet sloppy blow job with me all the whilst watching her deepthroat my dick. I was feeling her wet slick pussy and massaging her buttocks. This continued for another 10 mins before I came. She keep sucking till the moment I came it wasn't a pure cim, but she took the first hit.

Over all very god feeling, tipped 200k, and she hugged me till I said I wanted to leave. Her number was number 7, supposedly num, ber 33 and 29 have big tits. 30 is good servcie and I saw a bunch of cute 18yr old cuties when I walked out. Thumbs up from me.

[Rick Rock]

Quick FR. To say I prefer BBBJ is a understatement on avergae I get 3-4 BJ a week so conservatively I get over 100bbbj a year. So when I say WOW to a bbj then you know its something worth mentioning. Do admittedly I factor in the cost of a BJ ie 5-10 each I'm not honna complain, I'm not be like those newbies who come here expect somethimng from a porn vid for 10 dolar, but when you do and its ten dollars. Well it's def worth a mention.

So today I went to a BBBJ massage that I have been aware of for years but I never went to because frankly it's quite well known amongst the local Viets. So I expected not great service, but since I ahead a free ticket I decided what not.

Normal cost is 100k normal 300k VIP, the facilities a little old but hey you going for the BJ. I doidnt get any girls numbers so I requested a random. The girl they sent me was ok. Prob 27yr old, slim a cup. But as it was a experiement unless she was ugly I would accept she was about 6. 5.

Friendly chit chat some flirtation, but basically slightly better than piano massage.

After the, massage she asked me to lay on my stomach again there she licks the whole of my back and neck, then she licked my ass crack and the part thats a bit lower than your balls but before your ass. She did that for 5mins. Felt good.

Then she fliped me over and sucked and licked my balls and inner thight for anotehr 10mins alternating between my nipples and also pay attention to my shaft.

Then she started giving a wet sloppy blow job with me all the whilst watching her deepthroat my dick. I was feeling her wet slick pussy and massaging her buttocks. This continued for another 10 mins before I came. She keep sucking till the moment I came it wasn't a pure cim, but she took the first hit.

Over all very god feeling, tipped 200k, and she hugged me till I said I wanted to leave. Her number was number 7, supposedly num, ber 33 and 29 have big tits. 30 is good servcie and I saw a bunch of cute 18yr old cuties when I walked out. Thumbs up from me.Great report. I've long thought you were one of the best posters in Asia in terms of reports. I have to ask though, what's the point of a report like this if we don't know what the report is on? I can believe this report because of your track record here. But if a new poster made this I'd have no reason to believe it.

I realize there is a lot of heat coming down in the area, and I agree that some of the really explicit reports giving full addresses, full details of what happened, etc, are ill-advised.

So, I don't really know what the answer is. But if all we can do is make anonymous reports, then there really is no point to forums like these anymore, right?

Maybe you should offer to give contact info to trusted senior members via PM or something? I don't know.

[LuvAsianTang]

Great report. I've long thought you were one of the best posters in Asia in terms of reports. I have to ask though, what's the point of a report like this if we don't know what the report is on? I can believe this report because of your track record here. But if a new poster made this I'd have no reason to believe it.

I realize there is a lot of heat coming down in the area, and I agree that some of the really explicit reports giving full addresses, full details of what happened, etc, are ill-advised.

So, I don't really know what the answer is. But if all we can do is make anonymous reports, then there really is no point to forums like these anymore, right?

Maybe you should offer to give contact info to trusted senior members via PM or something? I don't know.I get a lot of requests for info via pm. I only give it to members with report history of sharing info. With out the sharing then we might as well be reading a comic book. I do enjoy getting a response thanking me for the info but some people don't have the manners to support that kind of response. To those members I give no more info in the future.

I think that some people here are just being downright rude to other members. It's anti productive and only tends to keep new posters from joining and supporting this forum.

Have a nice day, LuvAsianTang

[Rick Rock]

Unfortunately that hasn't worked for me. I've contacted 4 knowledgeable posters on HCMC with no real results, despite the fact that I've been willing to share tons of info via PM over the years in different sections.

[D Cups]

Where is this, please?

Thanks


Quick FR. To say I prefer BBBJ is a understatement on avergae I get 3-4 BJ a week so conservatively I get over 100bbbj a year. So when I say WOW to a bbj then you know its something worth mentioning. Do admittedly I factor in the cost of a BJ ie 5-10 each I'm not honna complain, I'm not be like those newbies who come here expect somethimng from a porn vid for 10 dolar, but when you do and its ten dollars. Well it's def worth a mention.

So today I went to a BBBJ massage that I have been aware of for years but I never went to because frankly it's quite well known amongst the local Viets. So I expected not great service, but since I ahead a free ticket I decided what not.

Normal cost is 100k normal 300k VIP, the facilities a little old but hey you going for the BJ. I doidnt get any girls numbers so I requested a random. The girl they sent me was ok. Prob 27yr old, slim a cup. But as it was a experiement unless she was ugly I would accept she was about 6. 5...

[MutantChicken]

Unfortunately that hasn't worked for me. I've contacted 4 knowledgeable posters on HCMC with no real results, despite the fact that I've been willing to share tons of info via PM over the years in different sections.I thought about replying to you via pm but this will save me replying to all the other guys who have asked me or will ask me.

Here is part chit chat part FR. It is clear the world is changing. I have been reading this thread and places like XXX since late 90's, and back then places like this was kinda exclusive club where committed cheongsters / mongers would come online and share and more importantly SWAP tips. And in those times places like chang ping, AC, Soi Cowboy was still unknown and undeveloped well especially for a guy in his early 20's.

Now those places are old, and pretty commercialised, and any reports on those places is mere repetition. So pretty much the threads are filled with chit chat, trolling arguements, reports designed to boost up egos, or filled by newbiews too lazy to rtff and just ask question. There isn't any real reports on new territory. Guys like thatasshole, asian rain and even guys like johndao, hcmcmik even wendella don't bother to post.

Its a known fact that expats and foreigners only access a tiny fraction of the services available to the local population regardless where you are in the world, and as cocky as it is, I believe that my reports are relating to very little foreigner exposed terrain.

As such its in my own interest to protect it given what I have seen happened to other locations that have been broadcast to the internet public.

Lately I have been selective to whom I have revealed information to not merely by either pm them the location or by posting it openly but by actually meeting them and taking them there, naturally for my time I expected some small compensation but even this has proved unsatisfactory.

I shall further elaborate recently I met up with two groups of newbies.

So this first group hasnt made a FR yet, so the argument that I should give share info is pretty weak given that I have shared but these people don't bother to share either, next is I take him to a massage with a BJ, they both try to overpay even after I told them how much to tip, and he is so clumsy he can't even organise the BJ ie shut up and when needed point your dick to her mouth.

The next guy is the same hasn't made a FR yet, and when I took him to the babarshop for the BJ, whilst they didn't try to overtip, he couldn't sit there shut up and point dick top her mouth so he also didn't get a BJ just a HJ.

So that's my problem, even when I guide newbies they either try to over tip or they let the girls do less for the same money. So how is that not going to spoil my playground.

Further how is sharing going to benefit me even if there isn't a disfavour to me.

I had two guys Volponeand Rickrock get annoyed with me when I refused to share with them they further addes that they can get it cheaper or even free. So my question is that if they are happy with their options why contact me. Rick rock I admit has reported quite a bit, Volpone on the other hand is questionable, and frankly any reports is just the same regurgitation of previous posts and is only useful to newbies too lazy to rtff. It really doesn't help me, so if you guys have any new information you want swap with me then sure pm me.

And Volpone PS the HJ place you mentioned, I only pay 150k for the HJ so you are clearly overpaying so I wouldn't trust you not to overpay if I was to pass you any information.

Anyway my last note is, if I haven't met you in the past, then don't ask me to show you around unless you prepared to pay commercial rates, and if I have met you then my previous arrangement will continue.

[Rick Rock]

A bit different from what you said in PM. Here you admit that I've made quite a few reports. There you asked me for $100 USD to show me to a $10 BBBJ shop. When I scoffed at that and said this board is for the sharing of information you said: "the aim of this webiste is the EXCHANGE of information. You haven't givenme anything I didn't already know [sic]"

I think you miss the spirit of the forum. It's not a market where you exchange X amount of information for X amount of information. People post up what info they have, either to the public or in tough situations to trusted senior members. If they need info on some other area at some other time, they can then get it. Sounds like you want some kind of eBay system where you barter and trade BBBJ locations. That's never been the way this site or others like it have worked. If it was, they wouldn't have all of the members and posts they do today.

I've never given you info because you've never asked for it. Maybe you've never needed it. If so good for you. I've never communicated with you previously, though I thought you made good reports in this section when I've seen them. I CERTAINLY wouldn't give you any info now, and I would recommend others do the same. With your attitude, there's frankly no point of you being on this board other than to gloat about "local info." If you have local info and want to keep it local why would you post, in English, on international monger boards? It's bizarre.

Thanks to the posters who have since PM'd me with some information about HCMC. Will be there in less than a week, happy to meet up with anyone with a track record here.

[LovinAsia]

Hi guys,

Any tips for a rookie to get a BJ and FS? I have read on here that Ben Ny's is popular but not sure if they offer FS.

Any good spots would be greatly appreciated!

[AmericanThief]

So you mean I can enter just any pharmacy and buy any fake Viagra such as Kamagra?

I will go to a pharmacy and ask for Viagra or Kamagra to check out if they provide it for me without any previous clinic visit.

I am currently in district 1 and there is so many girls available so I must improve my "amount of sweet girls per day" in my hotel room.No, Kamagra is an Indian brand or generic Viagra aka Sildenafil citrate, but it is a legitimate brand.

What I mean by fake Viagra is counterfeit Viagra.

https://www.google.com.vn/search?q=counterfeit

You don't want the counterfeit stuff. Its dangerous and doesn't work. Take 30 minutes, go to a clinic and tell the doctor directly you want Viagra or Cialis, and he / she will ask how many, and you answer. Buy the tabs from the clinic pharmacy and enjoy you "sweet girls."

Speaking of counterfeit, I was hospitalized from drinking counterfeit Jack Daniels. Even the beer these days are counterfeit.

http://www.beveragedaily.com/Regulation-Safety/Heineken-absolutely-on-top-of-fake-beer-threat-after-Vietnam-gang-bust

[Mik Hcmc]

So you mean I can enter just any pharmacy and buy any fake Viagra such as Kamagra?

I will go to a pharmacy and ask for Viagra or Kamagra to check out if they provide it for me without any previous clinic visit.

I am currently in district 1 and there is so many girls available so I must improve my "amount of sweet girls per day" in my hotel room.The pharmacy on the corner where the Hyatt and KFC traffic light intersection sells OTC meds, Valium for example and others. You can try that place and see what you end up with.

[Runners]

The pharmacy on the corner where the Hyatt and KFC traffic light intersection sells OTC meds, Valium for example and others. You can try that place and see what you end up with.Ok, thank you. I'll try there.

[Wendella]

Anyway my last note is, if I haven't met you in the past, then don't ask me to show you around unless you prepared to pay commercial rates, and if I have met you then my previous arrangement will continue.I don't post these days because I'm busy, and in those days I was much less busy and also bored. And I know most of the places now, and don't hear of new ones here any more these days, doesn't' leave much to talk about. This is not the best time to be sharing info online here, surely not in the forum. I don't think it's a very good for people to be meeting up either. Not worth the risk. Other issues in PM, but for the record, I agree with that other guy that the forum is supposed to be about sharing.

[Rick Rock]

Posts by MutantChicken here and on another board in June, July and August repeatedly claim that those of us seeking info online are not worthy of his expertise. He said at least once he was done posting online because we readers aren't worthy. Seems like an angry guy. I'd be in a lot better spirits if I had unlimited access to $10 BBBJCIM. Oh well, moving on.

Will be in HCMC within the week. Will see what I can do.

[Wendella]

There's no commercial posts allowed in regular threads. That's what Jacskon calls "spam"

We all know what happened to the toad here (also in another forum) : account deleted.

Putting up a FR that omits useful details, then letting people know by pm that you charge for those details, that's pretty clearly commercial.

So no, that's not cool. Violates forum rules pretty clearly, and is the kind of thing that results in a deleted account

[MutantChicken]

Mutant Chicken's reports are useless. He says," I had a free ticket so I went to a place. I got service. I tipped 200."

That's all he is saying and the moderator allows it.

His posts are to lure people into sending him PMs so then he can offer his sex tour services.

That's what's going on here, and the moderator allows it because he has a paid subscription, and as long as the business is done through PMs and not in the public forum its allowed.

So you guys out there, please understand what's going on here with this guy.Please take a look at all your posts, I went to benny I went to NKP. Real useful as well. At least mine pets you know there are more alternatives and you know the correct prices not warped by foreigners. When your post something new I'll pm you my own information free of charge.

[MutantChicken]

Today I took a member to the massage place with a BBBJ I mention before hand. Again the price was 100+200k tip for the BJ, he chose a slim 18yr looking gal. I heard her service was acceptable tho she tried to get him to tip 400k. Her number was 36.

My own gal I tried the large breasted number 33, she unfortunately wasn't a looker and chubby hence the see cups breasts. She would be over 50kgs so her massage was sufficiently strong, then came the BJ, she did some catbathing but not as good as the number 7 gal. But overall her general unattractivenss prob a 5 was inhibiting my ability to ejaculate, and plse she didn't allow any touching of her vagina. Instead the positives was she is a hard worker licking my balls and my shaft, and telling to grab her breasts quite firmly. 15mins of that and I finally came, I tipped her 200, and she asked is that all and I said yes. Naturally this was all paid by for my the member.

Thanks and good luck. PS there are plenty of other massage with BBBJ. At only 50+200k. So go out and search after you have posted about them and shared the address I'll send you what I know.

[LukeSkywalker]

Why does he have to manipulate the bros in this site?

People who are not straightforward cannot be trusted.

Those who make their living off prostitutes are despicable.

[AmericanThief]

Naturally this was all paid by for my the member.And a free ticket he is always talking about is a member paying for him in exchange for his tour services.

[CimgOng]

Hi all,

I was the one that MC brought around yesterday to the BBJ place. The FR is as MC described. 36 was ok looking. But not the best provider. When I refused to give her more than 200k, she was pretty pissed off. Though she did the job.

I think that the lurkers (and I'm one of them!) and posters on this site do not understand the mongering situation in HCM. I have been here for almost a year. It is impossible to find the mongering places unless

A) you have a shit load of time, wander around HCM and visit random places, get ripped off (probably) , etc etc. This means you have to at the very least have a motorbike and speak the language.

B) someone brings you.

Did I pay for MC's ticket etc. Yes I did. But I willing did so. For me to try to find out where these places are by myself would have cost me 10 times more. And with a job in the day, I can only spend a couple hours a night to look. There are at least 4 other massage places on the street MC brought me to. How do you know which one to walk into. Even if I tried one a day. It would take me effectively one week. And that's just one street in HCM!

Perhaps you feel that MC's services / help isn't for everyone. If you RTFF, you will find mongering places (Vien Dong Hotel, HBT, Benny's, etc). If you want the cost effective mongering places, you will have to pay a little to find them.

BTW in person MC is a really nice guy. And does give good advice about the scene in HCM.

My two cents.


Why does he have to manipulate the bros in this site?

People who are not straightforward cannot be trusted.

Those who make their living off prostitutes are despicable.

[Dragonfly22]

I'm a frequent visitor to VN but for only 2-3 weeks at a clip. I don't know any areas much beyond Dist#1 and just beyond. Maybe out to Cholon and towards the airport in HCMC. I have no problem spotting BBBJ places or Cafe Oms. They're quite readily recognizable with the potted plants blocking the view inside. Anywhere in VN that I see this it's a no brainer that something is afoot. All you have to be is discreet and walk in and they usually ask you if you want "massa". Then price is the only issue. Usually I get quoted 150K total. Take it or leave it. Some girls pout for a tip afterwards but not generally.

[LukeSkywalker]

This one quacks like a chicken clone, propping himself up.


Hi all,

I was the one that MC brought around yesterday to the BBJ place. The FR is as MC described. 36 was ok looking. But not the best provider. When I refused to give her more than 200k, she was pretty pissed off. Though she did the job.

I think that the lurkers (and I'm one of them!) and posters on this site do not understand the mongering situation in HCM. I have been here for almost a year. It is impossible to find the mongering places unless

A) you have a shit load of time, wander around HCM and visit random places, get ripped off (probably) , etc etc. This means you have to at the very least have a motorbike and speak the language.

B) someone brings you.

Did I pay for MC's ticket etc. Yes I did. But I willing did so. For me to try to find out where these places are by myself would have cost me 10 times more. And with a job in the day, I can only spend a couple hours a night to look. There are at least 4 other massage places on the street MC brought me to. How do you know which one to walk into. Even if I tried one a day. It would take me effectively one week. And that's just one street in HCM!

Perhaps you feel that MC's services / help isn't for everyone. If you RTFF, you will find mongering places (Vien Dong Hotel, HBT, Benny's, etc). If you want the cost effective mongering places, you will have to pay a little to find them.

BTW in person MC is a really nice guy. And does give good advice about the scene in HCM.

My two cents.

[CimgOng]

I'm a frequent visitor to VN but for only 2-3 weeks at a clip. I don't know any areas much beyond Dist#1 and just beyond. Maybe out to Cholon and towards the airport in HCMC. I have no problem spotting BBBJ places or Cafe Oms. They're quite readily recognizable with the potted plants blocking the view inside. Anywhere in VN that I see this it's a no brainer that something is afoot. All you have to be is discreet and walk in and they usually ask you if you want "massa". Then price is the only issue. Usually I get quoted 150K total. Take it or leave it. Some girls pout for a tip afterwards but not generally.That's where you are absolutely correct.

There are many places in VN, in some streets I see 4 to 6 massage joints. Knowing which one to walk into is the trick.

Knowing which ones have the nicest girls, or the best service, or what services they provide is impossible unless you start spending money walking into them. I don't speak the language. So its really hard for me even to ask for a pretty girl.

As in all things in the world, if you spend time on it, you spend less money. If you spend less time, then be prepared to spend some money.

[Rick Rock]

Seems all serious posters would like to have this guy banned. Short of that could we at least get him quarantined to his own thread so we aren't subject to his spam and sock puppets?

[GirlAddict]

Hey all long time reader first time poster my story is not a good one and may help someone else. I was walking around district 1 when 2 girls pull up on a motorbike and the ugly one says I can go to hotel with the hot one for $20. I jump on and off we go but it is a long way away and over by the river. I am suspicous but when we go upstairs we are all alone in the house. Of course it is time to take a shower and take of my pants and leave beside bed. A few minutes into the shower there is a banging at the door and the girl is yelling police police and as I walk downstairs there are about 4 guys there and the 2 girls. I figured the scam was they take me way out and now are going to charge a lot of money to get back so I just start walking away and the motorbike guy is trying to get me on and I figure I will walk to the main road and get a bike there. After walking about 5 minutes I then thought to check my wallet and yes it was all cleaned out except for about 200k, which I am assuming they left for me to pay the bike driver. So I would not suggest getting on any motorbike with a girl offering to take you to a hotel.

[LukeSkywalker]

Here's another mutant addict with 1 post warning the bros about imminent dangers and thus they should rely on local touts to find sex.

[MutantChicken]

Here's another mutant addict with 1 post warning the bros about imminent dangers and thus they should rely on local touts to find sex.Lukeskywalker is also a clone as he posted a terrible FR in Hanoi saying that Vietnam is a terrible destination for mongering, and thus implying that in order to find the good spots, then you would need to use sex touts.

[Tiger 888]

If common sense does not work, I am of the opinion that it should hurt.
Most of us don't need to pay a guide to tell us not to go with touts almost anywhere in the world.

[BambinoSesh]

Hi contact [Email address deleted by Admin]

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This is my first time here in Saigon, and just wonder if there is any place like this.

[GirlAddict]

You guys are making some claims which are not based of facts. All I did was share a story of what happened to me as a warning no where did I say you pay a guide.

[MutantChicken]

We have all heard about Vietnams different cafe styles, cafe Van Phong, cafe San Trong, cafe Vuong, cafe Vong, cafe Goc, cafe Om-Rabba, cafe om.BBBJ, cafe dj etc etc.

I have found a new concept cafe fuck.

This is actually I kind of found before though it was of a form I didn't find appealing due to cost, distance and the formate. Basically what it was is 3 yrs ago I found a cafe om. Rabba style. And some gals were willing to get on your bike go to the hotel across the road, you could fuck them for 400k then afterwards pay them and leave.

What I wanted was to find a cafe you could fuck inside the cafe. Today I found such a place, though just be aware not all gals will fuck and you need to kc them a bit ie be reasonable attractive gal, be able to make the laugh etc etc.

The way it works is you go into the public area, a girl sits down and she asked if she can join you. If you say yes she brings back a tray with a few drinks. And she leads you to a more private room. There she will chit chat and you can grope her she will play with your dick. Here is where you try to convince her to fuck, if thing go well or even if it doesn't she will try to get 6-7 drinks from you. Costing about 30k each. So if you lucky you can fuck for about 200k, if you unlucky then you could have groped a girls for 200k.

The gals are some a fattys, again a few cuties but in the 5-6 range.

This is ok for the experience, fuck gals standing doggy in a cafe, for 200k (150k if you lucky) or pick up a street walker also about 5-6in loks mid 20; s age cost 250k including the room.

Seen in that perspective its not exactly worth recommending but it is a new experience something that others haven't reported before.

[DavePuppy]

We have all heard about Vietnams different cafe styles, cafe Van Phong, cafe San Trong, cafe Vuong, cafe Vong, cafe Goc, cafe Om-Rabba, cafe om. BBBJ, cafe dj etc etc.

I have found a new concept cafe fuck.

Seen in that perspective its not exactly worth recommending but it is a new experience something that others haven't reported before.Another pointless post. Complete waste of time reading it and no other purpose but to drum up business. Suggest other posters report him, his account will get locked.

[Mik Hcmc]

another pointless post. complete waste of time reading it and no other purpose but to drum up business. suggest other posters report him, his account will get locked.its posted in the general info section, and thats what it is. general info. this forum is pretty dead at the best of times and mc's postings have helped cause a bit of a stir.

if you have been here long enough and ridden around on your bike, you will have noticed these cafes rep001tered around the place, some streets are lined with them. its just knowing what it is. thats the hard part. i can write about the fuckshop alley where you pay 300k for a fuck upstairs in a cafe but what are the chances of a expat or tourist jumping on their bike and riding out of their comfort zone of d1/3/7 pmh and visiting these places where locals go. they prefer closer to home.

so whats the point of giving the exact details when no one will make the effort to go, having said that with the current climate of raids and (a lot) more police being present in public, is it worthwhile just for the sake of putting it out there? then where does the op go when it starts to become more expensive and overcharging, as it gets more popular the police will want a bigger cut, then when that cut isn't big enough or the police wants to look good, they go and raid / shut down the joint. then what? do you think the people who benefited from the op's post will go out looking for new places, post up the locations? i doubt it. there are only a few "core" members of this forum, out of that core group less and less members are posting publicly. they already know where to go so why risk losing your honey hole? theres a few blow and go's that have shut down due to their popularity. hard to say if its all due to this forum but sure there is some % contributed from this.

mc does have a lot of local info. for some people the fee he charges is worth it. some will be outraged and have the how dare he charge for his knowledge to a complete stranger to come and play or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and shit in his sandpit. to others who have been around a while its not worthwhile. just remember how hard it is to actually monger in saigon vs its neighbours. that fee may well be worth it. i know my time is valuable to me and i often pay people to do the running around / waiting for me so i am free to carry on, besides is his fee of $100 really that overpriced? thats only (roughly) 2 mill vnd. how much do you pay going to dinner? going to clubs and paying for overpriced drinks on girls with the faint hope of getting into their panties, only to go home and have nothing to poke on? i can't comment of other peoples economic situations but that's chicken feed. compared to getting a working girl from a bar, you are getting inside knowledge, cheaper service and more options. can you put a price on the time it takes to pound the pavement?

the way i look at it is like this. you pay for a service. if you use this service more than say 3-4 times then you're saving money vs paying the $150 for the bar girls each time. kinda makes sense.

sadly i won't be paying for mc's services since i have my own "holes to poke" but i did meet with him a few yrs ago and another member who no longer posts and after a meet and greet we went for a ride around to the barbershops. he's actually a nice guy. he's been here for a while and will be around a lot longer.

before i start getting the villages riled up and wanting to burn me, i have no affiliation with anyone on this forum. i don't go taking people out on tours, i have only met 2 members from this forum as i said above. infact i haven't been to a barbershop for 3+yrs. i know where they are yes, because i ride around and notice whats going on. yes the shops have closed down but they also have reopened nearby. if you know what to look for then you don't really need this forum.

just my 500dong single pack of gum's worth.

[MutantChicken]

if you have been here long enough and ridden around on your bike, you will have noticed these cafes rep001tered around the place, some streets are lined with them. its just knowing what it is. thats the hard part. i can write about the fuckshop alley where you pay 300k for a fuck upstairs in a cafe but what are the chances of a expat or tourist jumping on their bike and riding out of their comfort zone of d1/3/7 pmh and visiting these places where locals go. they prefer closer to home.not sure if i should be thanking you for your support or not, as this will be another piece of "evidence" these guys will use saying that i'm using clones to prop up my business. though i love how so many of these guys do not see their hypocrisy of posting a report condemning my useless report even though my report has the correct local pricing so is at least has one useful fact, let alone gives people an idea that there is options other than benny etc, or the other guy who posts a report identical to me ie without revealing details only he over paid then at the bottom he is asking of someone can give him the idea of the correct price, wtf i have given him the correct price in my own reports and yet they call it usless and then they are asking information on that very point.

so i ask davepuppy. whats more useless a report that provides local priciing or the report that condemns the initial report but provides nothing.

however this post of mine is more about your own comment, i not sure if this post of yours about the 300k fuckshop alley is just a joke in attempt to get these guys on a fools errand or what. but if it is i personally don't think its good sport, whilst my own reports may be called useless as i don't provide addresses, i don't think its helpful to provide misleading information. pm me if i have made the wrong assessment, but from what i know of cheap fuckshops, something you can fuck for 300k is either pretty grotty, bad service or filled with ugly gals or all three. and apart from the experiece. its certainly not worth your while esp for someone with your financial base.

eg i know a hotel where you can call the mommy you get a plain looking girl with a overused and dry vagina who will allow you 2 shots for 250k, if you want you can bring your friend and you can swap gals. plus hotel and its 330k.

nearby is another hotel where they will call a girl for you. from the same stable as the above gals total cost 350k.

i also been to a barbar shop where you can fuck for 200k, its now closed down again pretty average looking gals and rudimentry service. standing doggy.

then there was the cafe i mention earlier. standing doggy plain gals. mozzies biting your naked ass.

and today i found another cafe 300k and the girls a 4-5 max. wasnt going to try the service.

compare that with the barbarshop / brothels decent looking gals and decent service for 700k, your freelancers where you can get pretty gals for 500k + hotel or even your street gals who i can say tehre are gals 7-8's, in looks tho ususally bad service but for 200-400k in price.

so unless the gals at your fuckshop alley are pretty and provide decent service, not like my cheapy's, i think its misleading just to say fuck shop alley 300k. because i'm sure you can get some old drugged fucked women in bui vien for 200k.

and if they are pretty then i think given that i passed you information on the original brothels. its time to return the favour. but somehow i think that's a dream on my part.

[Mik Hcmc]

So unless the gals at your fuckshop alley are pretty and provide decent service, not like my cheapy's, I think its misleading just to say fuck shop alley 300k. Because I'm sure you can get some old drugged fucked women in Bui vien for 200k.

And if they are pretty then I think given that I passed you information on the original brothels. Its time to return the favour. But somehow I think that's a dream on my part.Its time to drop your attitude mate, You seem to like to boast about knowing more about where to get laid than other members and its starting to get old.

I've told numerous people who've PM'd me about this location before and I've shared it with them. Whether or not they acted on it is not my concern.

If you want to know all you need to do is ask, Not make a big song and dance about it. But like you said it is not going to be a place with high standards, If you don't mind rubbing shoulders (or something else) with armed forces and locals then go for it. You want the location then shoot me a PM.

[DavePuppy]

Mik. I'm not question the value of his services or whether it is right to do it. Fair play to him, he knows his shit and he sells it. I'd never criticize someone for that.

I just find it frustrating that he doesn't post any useful information when he has it. I'd rather he just keeps quiet so I don't have to read. The truth being he has more commitment to mongering, so he knows more than me or your average punter. Every post he makes just reminds people that he knows more than they do and won't share without being paid. Anyone who thinks this isn't going to wind people up is a bit naive.

As for the assertion that chatting about things on this board gets places shut down. I find that comical. As soon as you get out of D1 places live or die on local business unless very upscale. Our 0. 01% custom doesn't make a difference to anything. I'd post more info myself, but I'm a bit shit at getting out and going to new places.

It is a shame he flamed you when you were sticking up for him

[Suronin]

So I'm traveling in Vietnam on a family trip which means I have to behave like a "decent person" so I didn't think any action would be posible in this trip, which is a shame since I think Viet girls are absolutely gorgeous, much prettier than Thai girls (I was just in Thailand by myself before Vietnam, I'll talk about my adventures there in the proper forum), we were in Hailong Bay and Hanoi for a few days and it was just looking and thinking about going back to China without a taste of Vietnamese beauty (which I have been fortunate enough to try before some years ago in Catba Island and in Shanghai, the Shanghai one was especially great).

But when we made it to Saigon I got my hopes up again, staying at the Cap Town Hotel in Le AnhXuan St in District 1, literally right next to the hotel there was a massage place, just full of gorgeous girls in sexy dresses and another one in front to the hotel, so I was looking forward to having some fun there after my relatives had gone to bed, surprisingly after we came back from diner at 10:00 those places were closed, I was disappointed but I decided to wander about.

Bunch of dudes in motorcycles approached me asking me if I was looking for girls, one of them was nice enough so I got talking to him, imediately another driver appeared with a girl after he called him, girl seemed to have a good attitude and was chubby but cute, which was not really what I was looking for now (for my previous adventures with chubby-cute girls look at my upcoming posts about my previous adventures in Thailand and Shanghai) and besides I didn't really want to take her to my hotel to avoid any unlikely but still possible encounter on the way to my room.

Guys seemed nice enough and in case he was not he was skinny and seemed harmless and I wasn't carrying a lot of money or credit cards so even if I got robbed it wouldn't loose much, so I decided to take the motorcycle dude on his offer for a tour on the dark side.

First point was a nearby disco he said was full of girls, there was no girls there, but didn't pay anything or had to stay so moved on.

Second point was a hotel Luc Phuc on Ky Con Street, there was one girl there, she was just so so, but had good attitude and spoke good English she also had biggish tits, another girl came out of a room with a dude, those were my only choices, second girl was cuter but she had just fucked a dude and that was a turn off (I know this is probably often the case with working girls but if I don't see it I don't mind) and I didn't like the first girl enough despite her good attitude and English and the fact that she gropped my dick as a goodbye I decided to move on.

Third point was Tan Loc Hung Hotel on Do Quang Dau St. 3 girls came after a while, all of them very pretty. 7 or 8s there was one who was just my type slim, white skin, big tits, long black hair, almond eyes and full red lips, she smiled briefly at me but seemed very serious but they all did, I decided to take her on, they told me the damage would be 40 USD for the girl + 10 for the room (I wasn't carrying a lot of Dong, which was probably a mistake) I got it down to 40 for the whole deal, paid at the lobby and she left her ID there, that was surprising.

Went upstairs with her, room was quite big and clean but seemed old and kind of Spartan, before motorcycle guy told me it was 30USD to stay there if I wanted too, I think that's super expensive considering I'm paying the same for the place I'm staying at which is super nice and new, going back to the main story, she was very cold and rushed, I knew thar wouldn't be a GF experience but I was really horny so I would take what I could, since I didn't bring my own condom I had to pay 1 USD extra for one brought from the lobby, I asked her to get completely naked and she fussed a bit about it but she did it, ok body, pretty nice medium tits and hairy pussy, I asked her to give me a BBBJ she said it would be 1000,000, so I said ok use the condom, she blew me at the chair which was nice, but she had no technique or motivation and moved to HJ almost right away.

Told her I wanted to fuck, she just wanted to make me cum with a HJ, she fussed about even more and I told her if we didn't fuck I would take my money back so she reluctantly went to bed, she wanted missionary but if if she was going to be a ***** about fucking I didn't want to look at her face besides her ass and back were beautiful so I wanted to fuck her doggy, she assumed the position, since I knew she was not going to be so wet and the condom was unlibricated I used a little saliva as I was ready to plunge those depths, she fussed even more and I started to pull my pants up and tell her I was going to get my money back, so she went back to bed assuming the missionary position again, and again I turned her on her back.

I fucked her rough and quickly and she felt quite good, I specially loved looking at her ass as I fucked her I'm sorry to say that the fact she was pissed with me made it even hotter, not my best moment I must admit but I was really needing a fix I came inside her (on the condom of course) almost right away, would have loved to come on her face or even on her body but seeing her attitude I kew it would not be an option, I stayed inside her for a bit even after I came just enjoying the moment.

After that she got up right away, cleaned up and dressed, we went down on the elevator and she pulled her sweater covering her boobs and didn't say anything, we went to the lobby I said goodbye but she just kind of sneered at me.

Mamasan burned paper money on the street, papasan called the motorcycle dude to take me back to where he found me, gave him 50,000 Dong as a tip, he wanted more but I didn't have any, told him I would look for him tomorrow night to go to another expedition.

He gave me a few tips.

About the pretty girl massage places near my place, he said they were all lady boys and I should avoid those places, does anybody know if this is true? I didn't think they had LB in Vietnam and I they didn't look like LB, but then again I didn't look closely.

He recommended a place called Apocalypse Now, which sounds like a girl bar, and another girl bar that I saw along the way that had a number as a name, does anybody know these places? Are they recommended?

As I went back to my room the doorman asked me quite straight if I needed a girl for massage tonight, I said no but maybe tomorrow.

So besides the questions about the veracity of the LB thing and info on those girl bars, can anybody recommend me places in Area 1, I'm specially interested in these BJ bars I read about in these forums (which motorcycle dude said didn't excist by the way) and full service massage places.

Also is 40 USD a pop a normal price around these parts or did I overpaid?

These and any other tips on Saigon would be greatly appreciated.

[Dragonfly22]

The massage places on LAX are all legit places with no ladyboys. Good massages at the place across the street. You may get an occasional HJ there but not much else. Paying up front always gets you poor service and starfish quality. The girls your doorman provide could be your best quality providers as they are regulars at that hotel.

[Suronin]

The massage places on LAX are all legit places with no ladyboys. Good massages at the place across the street. You may get an occasional HJ there but not much else. Paying up front always gets you poor service and starfish quality. The girls your doorman provide could be your best quality providers as they are regulars at that hotel.Thanks for the advice Dragonfly, they definitely don't look like ladyboys too bad thet are legit places because they certainly look gorgeous, I may give it a go anyway see what I can get, if nothing I'll probably try using the doorman as a pimp tonight, and I'll do my best to avoid paying up front

I'll report on my new adventures.

[D Cups]

He recommended a place called Apocalypse Now, which sounds like a girl bar, and another girl bar that I saw along the way that had a number as a name, does anybody know these places? Are they recommended?Apocalypse Now occasionally has some beauties that arrive around midnight. They want $100 / night. Which I have reluctantly paid.

[MutantChicken]

I'm sure some if you guys might remember Hcmc Mik mention of a fuckalley where its 300k and fuck in a cafe.

I had passed this area about 2 yrs ago and noticed that it had a bunch of hot tocs, about 2 weeks before I had ridden past and noticed that all the hot toc gone but there were quite a few cafes, some look very seedy. When I say seedy I mean has a sign saying cafe, but no tables no chairs no drinks, no potted plants and you can just see a partition where I assumed people sleep. Further the ladies would be considered MIWWF (mothers I wouldn't want to fuck).

So again thanks Mik for clarification to what these cafe are about. Anyway I wanted to take a proper look at these cafes so today I drove around. Seems there are two types of cafe in the area. The first is the cafe BBBJ. I went into two to test the merchanise, you get a drink and a BBBJ on a massage table so its kinda like a hot toc, just no aircon etc, and the service is a bit rushed, but very friendly. But some girls are comparable to gals at benny ie 6-7's etc etc. Cost 120k.

Next is the actual fuck type, the three that I made direct enquires about is staffed by a fattish ladies in her late 30's I'd be pressed to give her a 3/10. She told me the cost was 200k. One lady told me she could call a gal mid 20's with big tits for me also 200k, but given that I blew my load twice in the 1hr previously I didn't want to wait around and then see the gal then refuse service. Il'l prob drop my again and ask to see the gal.

Those that want the address ask Hcmc Mik as this is his discovery. I don't onsell or pass on other guys information.

[Wendella]

I'm sure some if you guys might remember Hcmc Mik mention of a fuckalley where its 300k and fuck in a cafe.If these are the ones I'm thinking of (I think they are) then I checked these out a few years ago and had same reaction you did (MIWWF). Did not partake. Was cheaper in those days but again, does it matter if it's something you woudln't want to do. I heard of it via this forum actually, back in around 2005 or so. It was a nasty potholey splashy dirt road then.

[Wendella]

Last night I went in to Bin Bin on Le Thanh Ton st, which is the ONE bar that still has lots of girls and some of them pretty hot. I sat with this one girl, who was totally totally totally my type, and was playful and the one thing that was bad was that she sat on another stool (red flag) rather than snuggle up to my stool while standing. Anyway, I kept noticing how when Japanese customers came in she did a head-spin. Finally I asked her where she worked before she came to work here. A Japanese restaurant. (red flag #2, think about it) By drink 3, a time by which a customer surely would be asked if he wanted to go to a hotel, I finally asked HER what's the deal with hotel. In conversation she had told me earlier that girls here won't' go to a hotel with customers. (I'm looking around the room noticing regulars from bars that had been shut down on HBT, so these are hard-core hookers. But with the crackdown I figured it was possible they were using some workaround or just saying that) Anyway, later I asked her if she goes to hotel. She said yes she can."How much?" she said $100. $25 to the bar."Oh, so $75 for you and $25 for the bar?" No, $100 for her and $25 for the bar. And you don't even have to ask to know this means short time one pop. And even though I'm bringing this up, she doesn't pursue the direction of the conversation at all and even does the head-spin again to notice the new customers coming in. Bad bad bad bad. I have never been quoted a price that high in any bar, ever. Actually a recent one was 91 bar right before it shut, and that was 1. 2m to her. 500 to the bar, for bona fide modelesque girl. So either ST prices have nearly doubled in the last month or this girl really didn't want to go with me. Would be interested to hear what others get quoted at Bin Bin.

One very interseting thing there, and I saw this on another previous visit to Bin Bin recently. The Japanese customers always go upstairs to a semi-private room they can sit in, and the lineup comes up there for them. Last time and this time though, after the lineup went upstairs and came back down, not long afterwards a few girls came into the bar wearing ao-dais and Japanese style haircuts and headed upstairs to do a lineup. Not many. 3 or 4. THey were being called in from one of the local Japanese bars. Funny because they looked like kewpie dolls but they hung out a little in the main bar downstairs and talked with other girls, and as soon as they opened their mouths they sounded as hardcore as the regular Bin Bin girls, the illusion totally shattered. But for anyone who was ever interested in the girls from Japanese bars but not willing to do that price tier, maybe this is an option. Go ask for a room upstairs and get the lineup, then reject that whole group and ask if they have ones in ao dais.

[Mik Hcmc]

I'm sure some if you guys might remember Hcmc Mik mention of a fuckalley where its 300k and fuck in a cafe.

Further the ladies would be considered MIWWF (mothers I wouldn't want to fuck).
If these are the ones I'm thinking of (I think they are) then I checked these out a few years ago and had same reaction you did (MIWWF). Did not partake. Was cheaper in those days but again, does it matter if it's something you woudln't want to do. I heard of it via this forum actually, back in around 2005 or so. It was a nasty potholey splashy dirt road then.Yes, for a cheap price the chances of finding a stunner are pretty much ZERO. Not to mention its local traffic only.

Perhaps we should only give this place out to those who keep sending us PM's asking for info. (yeah we know who you are) Tell them how beautiful and young these 300k girls are.

Of course there are other places that have several B&G's on their streets, You just have to get out there and go for a ride and explore (Like what MC does and what I used to do)

[Suronin]

In the last episode I was talking about checking the massage places near my hotel, Cap Town in Le Anh Xhuan district and perhaps using the doorman at the hotel to get me a girl for the night since he offered.

As I mentioned before I was in Vietnam with family so the tourist activities were pretty heavy and I was pretty much completely beaten at night so I didn't took the doorman's offer which I regret but what can you do, this was a family trip not a mongering trip.

Anyway I did try the massage place right next to the hotel, I knew thanks to this forum that there was probably not going to be any action but I had to try it by myself, I mean it was right next to the hotel I would have kicked myself if I didn't

Girls where hot (altough it was probably the motorcycle dude's suggestion that they may be ladyboys messing with my head but some of them seemed kind of mannish to me) and they dressed really hookerish like, I picked a short cute one (the girliest one just to be sure) and picked the most expensive option on the menu, the 300k VIP room.

Unfortunately as predicted it was totally legit and professional, no hanky panky was even suggested or even hinted, she didn't even came near my crotch area or paid much attention to my butt and if my hands (or legs) would ever wonder she would gently but firmly push them away, she was nice and smiled and even laughed a bit during our interaction but she was very business like and not flirty at all and didn't really speak any English.

All in all I'm very glad and thankful at the information provided in this forum that there wasn't likely to be any special service provided so I had just the vaguest of hopes that I would at least get a HJ but even though I didn't get a happy ending I did enjoy my massage which was actually quite good (although my back is starting to hurt now) specially the part where she slided her oily naked tights across my back (the only remotely sensual thing that happened during the massage) she used hot stones, oils and had very skilled hands, elbows, feet and legs (good as it was it was also quite rough) but part of me was missing Dr BJ's Nuru massage in Bangkok a big part of me (see what I did there?)

Total damage was 500K. 300 service+200 tip, she wasn't happy about getting only 200 tip but I wasn't happy about giving it either 300 for a non HE massage was ok, but 500 seems too high given that according to this forum I could be getting at least a BJ for that so no matter how skilled she was I wasn't tipping anymore for a normal massage, but one question remains in my mind, the 300k service was originally for 2 hours, I had only time for 1 hour but still had to pay full price for the use of the VIP room (so much for VIP didn't even have a shower) she was pretty much done with the massage in one hour, so I wonder had I stayed a second hour things would have gotten better? I guess that question remains for the ages.

Other than that, yesterday we went to Cantho city we spend the night there at the Ninh Kieu 2 hotel, and there was definitely action going on there they had a sleazy looking massage place (although the place next to my hotel looked quite sleazy and it wasn't so you never know) on the 3rd or 7 floor, but most importantly there were working girls wandering the hotel coming back and forth from rooms even during the day time, unfortunately I was sharing a room so no chance of anything, but a couple of girls even knocked on our room in the middle of the night apparently looking for costumers (at 5 am which is quite fucking late even if I was flying solo at that time I would be more likely to tell them to fuck off than to fuck me) I didn't see our late night visitors but the girls I saw looked nice.

I only managed to play once in Saigon, girl was hot but the service was quite bad I was horny and she felt good so I still enjoyed fucking her, I see people here complaining about the situation in HCMC specially for newbies, but here I was a complete newbie who knew nothing of the city, had no Vietnamese skills and stayed in what appears to be the more mainstream-sanitized area of town and even had no real intention of playing around in Saigon, still upon stepping out of my hotel the first night in the city in 10 minutes I had a girl ready to go to my room with me, I turned her down but within the hour I was fucking a different girl after seeing some options, my doorman offered to deliver a girl right to my room, pedicab driver offered to take me to a good happy massage place, and I had my own motorcycle dude to take me anywhere to get girls, so I think the situation seems pretty good, even the prices, I paid 50USD for my thirst which seems to much given the quality of the services so I would gladly pay double that for good service from a hot girl, specially since I'm used to playing around in Hong Kong and Shanghai which can be considerably more expensive.

Bottom line I liked Saigon, nice ordered city, good bars, good food, polite people and opportunities for fucking hot girls seem to be theore, hope next time I can come on a Dark Side expedition and check out Apocalypse Now and Saigon Superbowl and specially I hope the local situation will improve and I can visit the local BJ places as they sound fucking awesome.

Good luck to all the local and visiting mongers in Vietnam, I'm off to Shanghai and Suzhou I'll report on my adventures there if I get in any.

[AmericanThief]

Just a reminder. The hottest of hotties are not in Vietnam. They are farmed out to Singapore, Macau and Dubai.

Sad and depressing.

[CaliPro]

Guys, doing a SEA tour and will be in HCMC for 4 nights.

What are there best freelance bars / clubs? Or normal clubs with the sluttiest girls?

I am 27 and will go out on a lunch date every day from online and do 2 night dates and 2 nights out solo.

Cheers

[CaliPro]

Adding to my previous post, here is the list I compiled of all the nightlife in HCMC. I need to break this down into more detail and prioritize.

Lavish rnb.

Lush rnb.

Fuse rnb.

Vascos.

Sheraton.

Chill Bar.

Cloud Bar.

Bounce Club.

America Disco.

X Club.

Canalis.

Gold Club

Crazy Eights.

Napoli live band.

Skybar 35 after hours.

Gossip FL.

Sin Lounge.

Apocalypse Now FL

Crazy Buffalo Bar.

Chill Sky Bar.

Duc Vuong Hotel Rooftop Bar.

M Bar.

Q Bar.

Rex Hotel Rooftop Bar.

Shark Disco

Sparkle Lounge.

Underground Bar.

Velvet Bar. Wed ladies night.

[Mik Hcmc]

Guys, doing a SEA tour and will be in HCMC for 4 nights.

What are there best freelance bars / clubs? Or normal clubs with the sluttiest girls?Thailand? Angeles?

This is vietnam remember, where girls are raised to keep their legs closed until married. You want to chase slutty girls then best go overseas.


Adding to my previous post, here is the list I compiled of all the nightlife in HCMC. I need to break this down into more detail and prioritize.

Apocalypse Now FLDone. Your welcome.

[Jsxyz]

Thailand? Angeles?

This is vietnam remember, where girls are raised to keep their legs closed until married. You want to chase slutty girls then best go overseas.

Apocalypse Now FL.

Done. Your welcome.Add Go2Bar, at least a of last year. The bar in the Sheraton also had some girls last time I was there as well, but nowhere near as easy as Go2Bar or Apocalypse Now.

I think OP may be sorely disappointed with Saigon's FL bars, as I think he's accustomed to Thailand and Phillipines type scenes.

[CaliPro]

Add Go2Bar, at least a of last year. The bar in the Sheraton also had some girls last time I was there as well, but nowhere near as easy as Go2Bar or Apocalypse Now.

I think OP may be sorely disappointed with Saigon's FL bars, as I think he's accustomed to Thailand and Phillipines type scenes.FL bars / clubs are mainly just for fun and switching things up. I am 27 and mainly rely on online / mall game and pickup and regular clubs and bars.

Haven't been to Thailand yet. (Going there after Philippines before heading to Cambodia and Vietnam)

I just booked 4 nights at the Luxury Hotel in District 1, Japanese / Riverside area. Anyone have any experience with this hotel? Praying they are girl friendly. Booked the room for 2 adults.

[Jsxyz]

I just booked 4 nights at the Luxury Hotel in District 1, Japanese / Riverside area. Anyone have any experience with this hotel? Praying they are girl friendly. Booked the room for 2 adults.Are you talking about the Asian Ruby Luxury Hotel? http://www.asianrubyhotel.com/pages/client/index.aspx?

Pretty much guaranteed NOT GF. The GF places are the small 2 star places on side streets. I think there is very little chance an upscale place with tons of foreign guests will let you bring a girl back. I tried at the Sheraton last year, no luck, no how, even small bribe didn't help. And why did I try a bribe? Because there are at least two security guys right at the front door every night, all night. My schedule for the entire week was stumbling home anywhere between 2 and 5 AM, and they were always there. You can't even bring girls from the Sheraton's own upstairs club to your room because at night the elevator to the club is configured to bypass all the guest floors, so you have to go downstairs to the lobby smile at the security guy posted THERE, and get a different elevator to your room.

The non-GF thing in Saigon is for real, unless things have changed dramatically in the past year.

[Traveler1234]

The non-GF thing in Saigon is for real, unless things have changed dramatically in the past year.It has not!


I think OP may be sorely disappointed with Saigon's FL bars, as I think he's accustomed to Thailand and Phillipines type scenes.Vietnam, at least HCMC is one of the least monger friendly venues in Asia. D1 for sure, other areas less so but you definitely need some local language skills or be young / adventurous.

[Jsxyz]

I.

Vietnam, at least HCMC is one of the least monger friendly venues in Asia. D1 for sure, other areas less so but you definitely need some local language skills or be young / adventurous.Perhaps, but it's been my favorite trip of the past few years among Singapore, Hong Kong a few times, Beijing a few times, Shanghai a few times. I really enjoyed myself in Saigon, but I'm not your typical adventurer. I really only like FL bars, and even then only rather low-key ones like Apocalypse and Go2 in Saigon (and Maggie's BJ, Manhattan's Shanghai, etc.) That's why I've never been to nor have any desire to go to PI or Thailand for my solo vacations. I realize the those scenes are totally different. And they don't' sound at all like my cup of tea.

Luckily it's a big world and there are all sorts of options for all sorts of tastes!

[CaliPro]

Are you talking about the Asian Ruby Luxury Hotel?

http://www.asianrubyhotel.com/pages/client/index.aspx?

Pretty much guaranteed NOT GF. The GF places are the small 2 star places on side streets. I think there is very little chance an upscale place with tons of foreign guests will let you bring a girl back. I tried at the Sheraton last year, no luck, no how, even small bribe didn't help. And why did I try a bribe? Because there are at least two security guys right at the front door every night, all night. My schedule for the entire week was stumbling home anywhere between 2 and 5 AM, and they were always there. You can't even bring girls from the Sheraton's own upstairs club to your room because at night the elevator to the club is configured to bypass all the guest floors, so you have to go downstairs to the lobby smile at the security guy posted THERE, and get a different elevator to your room.

The non-GF thing in Saigon is for real, unless things have changed dramatically in the past year.No, I am talking about this hotel

http://www.agoda.com/asia/vietnam/ho_chi_minh_city/luxury_hotel.html

Fuck, I really hope I didn't screw myself. It is off the main road and is a 2-3 star hotel. Hopefully I can bring a girl in.

I don't understand how they could refuse a girl when I booked the room for 2 people. She could be my gf or wife for all they know. They want her to sleep on the street.

I guess I need to email them or something to see if I need to cancel and book somewhere else.

[Jsxyz]

No, I am talking about this hotel.

http://www.agoda.com/asia/vietnam/ho_chi_minh_city/luxury_hotel.html

Fuck, I really hope I didn't screw myself. It is off the main road and is a 2-3 star hotel. Hopefully I can bring a girl in.

I don't understand how they could refuse a girl when I booked the room for 2 people. She could be my gf or wife for all they know. They want her to sleep on the street.

I guess I need to email them or something to see if I need to cancel and book somewhere else.Looks more likely to allow, but if overnight is really important to you then I would search the archives here and book some place where you can be sure. But know also that any FL or billiard bar girls you meet will know of ST hotels, and they're cheap ($5-$10 probably, often included in the girl's fee). The thing about overnights is, I believe it's VN law: only married couples are allowed to share a hotel room. So booking for two doesn't matter, nor does it matter if you call her your GF. Doubt you would have a problem bringing a western girlfriend anywhere, even at 5-star top end places, but if they want to go by the letter of the law, they could make you get separate rooms. If you tried it with a VN national as your "girlfriend", especially if her passport says she lives in Saigon, even the 3 and 4 star places might still require separate rooms. It's not like other countries, it's still a pretty tightly controlled Communist country, in many ways much moreso than China.

[CaliPro]

If any guys can confirm if this hotel allows overnight guests it would be much appreciated and a few beers / drinks on me when I come in Dec / Jan.

http://www.agoda.com/asia/vietnam/ho_chi_minh_city/luxury_hotel.html

[Jsxyz]

If any guys can confirm if this hotel allows overnight guests it would be much appreciated and a few beers / drinks on me when I come in Dec / Jan.

http://www.agoda.com/asia/vietnam/ho_chi_minh_city/luxury_hotel.htmlMight want to x-post it in the HCMC Hotels forum. There is recent activity there.

[D Cups]

[QUOTE=CaliPro; 1468546]No, I am talking about this hotel.

http://www.agoda.com/asia/vietnam/ho_chi_minh_city/luxury_hotel.html

I don't understand how they could refuse a girl when I booked the room for 2 people. She could be my gf or wife for all they know. They want her to sleep on the street.

QUOTE]

CP, agreed it is not logical but it is Vietnamese LAW and it is enforced. You might have to buy two rooms or find another 2 star. I stay at a 2 star called Hoang Vinh 29 Ba Huyen Thanh Quan in D3. It is just off Nguyen Thi MinhKhai, a major street that has Saigon Star Hotel and Tao Dan Park. Saigon Star has MP on top floor girls want 500K+ tip for just a HJ. Outrageous but nice spa. Good luck.

[CaliPro]

No, I am talking about this hotel.

http://www.agoda.com/asia/vietnam/ho_chi_minh_city/luxury_hotel.html

I don't understand how they could refuse a girl when I booked the room for 2 people. She could be my gf or wife for all they know. They want her to sleep on the street.

CP, agreed it is not logical but it is Vietnamese LAW and it is enforced. You might have to buy two rooms or find another 2 star. I stay at a 2 star called Hoang Vinh 29 Ba Huyen Thanh Quan in D3. It is just off Nguyen Thi MinhKhai, a major street that has Saigon Star Hotel and Tao Dan Park. Saigon Star has MP on top floor girls want 500K+ tip for just a HJ. Outrageous but nice spa. Good luck.I have a tight budget 25-30 usd a night on lodging and need to be in District 1 in walking distance to Apocalypse Now and Lush.

[Medanboy]

Hello,

I just would like to contribute by sharing my recent first day in Hoi Chi. I usually hang out in Indonesia so this here is all quite new to me. Feel free to criticize or give input. (My sincere apologies for typing errors as I am not used to write with a handphone)

First of all I arranged my visa before entrying. After 5 mins leaving the plane I passed customs and had my luggage which was quite nice. Good start. I checked the mai ling boot for a taxi voucher which I read should be around 200.000 Dong instead of the 150000 to district 1 outside but I was tired so didn't mind. However 300k was the asking so I said a polite fuck you (read: thank you) and I went outside. The more to the left I went the more it dropped till I found Visasun lady who said 150k and off I was toD1. I took a 3.5 star executive room with window in the hai long something hotel. I heard Vietnamese like to ripoff foreigners so I was on alert with the 500k notes I had in my pocket. And indeed at arriving I got my luggage presented the 500k note and he seemed to only want to give 50k. I saw 145 k on the meter and noticed the 10 k toll. So as a courtesy I made him pay all the change. No tip for ripping off. It did help the bellboy was standing next to me I guess. So checked in fluently; around 55$ a night with agoda. The room was big as it had 1 bed to much. Earplugs as I learned in Indonesia required.

So when we get to the ladys part? Alright the first part was just to inform fellow newbies going to Vietnam. I went down and smoked with the bellboys and asked if I could bring girls in. One said " girls no problem" but I'm not sure if I could rely on that ad his English was the sane as my mandarin (almost non existant ). The asked which room; then " oh 2 bed ". I told them I'm alone and have no wife or girlfriend but no suggestions were made. When I asked where I could find girls they didn't seem to understand. I tipped one before 20k Dong but girl no problem was sll he could rxplain. Its great howe some countries neglect the need to learn English to be able to watch brainless Hollywood movies. The reception was seemed ti watch English tv but I didn't feel like asking them for conpanionship.

Alright I'm getting there. I read this forum for 30 minutes but it all seemed complicsted. Mostly BJ places or korean haircut places which seemed difficult to find and outside district1. I asked for a bike at a Vietnam lady who seemed to know the bellboys and some English who said 200K. I saod it should be 100K (wikipedia thank you) and then she smiled and seemed to like me after I told her how I knew. She seemed pleasantly surprised. She called it bargaining. I call it another proof of polite ripping off. Anyways we had a nice; yes I would call it conversation. I didn't want to go to ben than market to arrange this as she suggested so I started already thunking about going ro Cambodia where in a past far away girls stayed in my hotel for a night and where for a cheap rice very gfexperience.

I'm getting there. Off to eat. Some guy at a motorbike offers me ladys for 40$ I'm hungry and I get headache from dollars so I ask in dong. He says 1 million. Which is more easy cause to get to indo rupiah I just have to divide by 2. A currency I know and can relate to easily in euro. I say 500k dong as the whole afernoon they seemed to ask for everything double. No no; I walk away. He says okey. I say later as I actually was very hungry. By the way I tried the in hotel massage earlier as in Indonesia usually they almost offer FS when you ask; more pricey but easy. The seemed to never have heard of inroom massage so I went down to the spa; ofcourse I got a male one as all others present localls got a girl (beats me why). Half open areaso nothing was possible anyway and he did quite a good job. 2 hour stone; foot; vegetables on the face was 320K.

Alright after eating another motoe guy approached me. In indonesia I don't do this cause usually it includes road ayam who are less clean and mostly drug addicts. His bike was clean, he followed me without being to annoying and the idea I had to puzzle 2 days in this forum to find a BJ or maybe a FS outside my area correlated with my next country being more conservative I said alright if it is less then a 3 min drive. 500K total we agreed. Room, girl and his service. I'm not sure he understood and expected some tip stuff. So said 30K to bring me back if I don't like what I see. I'm pretty sure he brought me to nguyen van trang street or a very short little ally after it if you go westside. If you exit the street you enter LeLai. We arrived and I saw a big red lamp sign: rooms for rent. I go in; sit down and after 1 min (he called slready on the 3 min drive) a girl came. She looked quite good; better then I expected and I'm usually quite picky. I said ok and noticed 3 others girls making their sppearance to come in from outdide (perhaps more after that?) And he signed they could go away. My choice looked more then good enough so I didn't mind. 500k to the reception. The driver asked money; I said no; no problem at all. We go to the room. Shower. Her english was as I expected (5 words). We go to the bed. She wants to do BBBJ and ask 200k tip. I say " if good tip otherwise no". Short BBBJ which was quite ok then the FS; she didn't want to start up top; I insist; gets tired fast and want to change. More of the same. Done after 25 mins or so. She makes clear only reason she is here is so I can finish. To the point and GFE:0. I had not much expectatuons so it didn't bother me much for this time. Her body was great:8/10, a face of 7/10 a bit hairy but nice pussy; she looked 18 so guess she must been 23.

So actually I was quite happy with the looks; much better from what I expected. The service was pretty bad but needed to cool down. A big contrast with indo where you mostly get GFE and a whole package (massage; kissing; GFE; talk etx.) but I realize it is just the first taste of Ho Chi.

Long story; which I hope can contribute to othet newbied. Of the experienced have some input always welcom. Suggestions are more then welcome. And I'm sure I overpayed. Just gave her a 20 k tip and said she was lazy. Perhaps she will look up the word. It might help to improve service unless you say it was to much already? Bur didn't want any problems as I don't know the habits here. I guess she had more then enough of the pie already as she seemed all ok with it.

[Tiger 888]

... One said " girls no problem" but I'm not sure if I could rely on that ad his English was the sane as my mandarin (almost non existant ). The asked which room; then " oh 2 bed ". I told them I'm alone and have no wife or girlfriend but no suggestions were made. When I asked where I could find girls they didn't seem to understand. I tipped one before 20k Dong but girl no problem was sll he could rxplain. Its great howe some countries neglect the need to learn English to be able to watch brainless Hollywood movies. The reception was seemed ti watch English tv but I didn't feel like asking them for conpanionship...I didn't know that they speak mandarin in Hoi Chi Min(h) City


...Its great howe some countries neglect the need to learn English...
It does not stop to amaze me that American travellers expect everyone in the world to learn their language.
I'd rather learn the names of the places I travel to.

[Jsxyz]

It does not stop to amaze me that American travellers expect everyone in the world to learn their language.

I'd rather learn the names of the places I travel to.While I'm only surmising, from the OP's grammar and usage he doesn't sound American. I, OTOH, and American, and don't expect everyone to learn English. I'm happy that so many people throughout that various countries of the world do have at least some English, but I certainly don't expect it.

[J Martinez]

While I'm only surmising, from the OP's grammar and usage he doesn't sound American. I, OTOH, and American, and don't expect everyone to learn English. I'm happy that so many people throughout that various countries of the world do have at least some English, but I certainly don't expect it.So true. If they know some English, great. If not, we'll find a way. I try to learn basic greetings. Don't always succeed, but my attempts get many smiles & laughs. A great ice-breaker!

[Medanboy]

I didn't know that they speak mandarin in HoI Chi Min (h) City.

It does not stop to amaze me that American travellers expect everyone in the world to learn their language.

I'd rather learn the names of the places I travel to.I never said I expect them to be able to be speak English. Just to illustrate the difficulty of the bargaining and the knowledge if the hotel is gff or not. About the Mandarin, its just an example expression; nothing to do with wath they speak or not. I'm not going to quote how many local languages I know from places I visited or stayed. I don't expect countries to learn other languages. Although something more broad spoken could be usefull.

Thanks for your openmind toward new posters and label me as an American or make assumptions I don't do my homework about trivial things. Just a report.

[GreenBud]

It does not stop to amaze me that American travellers expect everyone in the world to learn their language.

I'd rather learn the names of the places I travel to.I don't expect them to know English, but it would be smart of them to know some English, especially in the tourism area since English is the main international language (French in some areas).

Probably can thank the Brits for this. They kicked ass in the 18th & 19th century.

[AmericanThief]

Medanboy, thanks for the report, but it was too long didn't read.

Cliff notes anyone?

[Wendella]

Medanboy, congratulations on a great report. Such a nice change from the "no real content" posts we get here a lot either criticizing endlessly some fine point, or just sniping or bashing for no good reason, but I guess you got a look at a few of those types of posts here. ;.)

The worst has to be "your post is too long for my short attention span". Any intelligent member cringes when they see a post like that. It's an extreme minority opinion, from someone who doesn't contribute nearly as much as you just did. Not to be taken seriously.

[OzzieSuds]

If any guys can confirm if this hotel allows overnight guests it would be much appreciated and a few beers / drinks on me when I come in Dec / Jan.

http://www.agoda.com/asia/vietnam/ho_chi_minh_city/luxury_hotel.htmlThere is a separate thread for hotels that you might want to read.

Any hotel under $50 is probably GF but you will not get pools and gyms etc for that money.

This hotel used to be the Kim Long one of several owned by the Tran sisters (one ugly and one gorgeous) and it certainly used to be GF. You might need to befriend the male night receptionist. There are three rooms per floor and the center one has no windows, the back ones are not much better but the front rooms are not bad with a balcony.

There was also a question about mandarin. Lots of people in Saigon speak poor mandarin and more is spoken in Hanoi.

[VietNite]

There is a separate thread for hotels that you might want to read.

Any hotel under $50 is probably GF but you will not get pools and gyms etc for that money.

This hotel used to be the Kim Long one of several owned by the Tran sisters (one ugly and one gorgeous) and it certainly used to be GF. You might need to befriend the male night receptionist. There are three rooms per floor and the center one has no windows, the back ones are not much better but the front rooms are not bad with a balcony.

There was also a question about mandarin. Lots of people in Saigon speak poor mandarin and more is spoken in Hanoi.As far as I know most of the 2 or 3 even some 4 star hotel let you bring GF back.

[Johndao]

Hello,

I just would like to contribute by sharing my recent first day in Hoi Chi. I usually hang out in Indonesia so this here is all quite new to me. Feel free to criticize or give input.Hi Medan,

Thanks for your long and detailed report. As most of you know, I appreciate detail. Regarding your experience with the girl, she is simply trafficked and pimped. You did not give her any money except for the 20, 000 Dong (Less than $1). You gave 500, 000 Dong to the receptionist (around $25) but you can be sure the girl got little of any of that (50, 000 at most). That's why she just wanted you to finish, why there was no GFE, so her pimp, the motoguy and hotel could get paid and she would not get slapped around by her boss.

JD

[Appolyon]

Apologies about this long post, I am a long time lurker of this site, just wanting to share some of my experiences from my month in Saigon. When I have more time, I will write the rest and they should be a lot shorter. This was my second trip to Saigon (the other being last year) , but I was accompanied by my wife and obviously very little opportunity to play. This time I had a whole month without her. I am Viet Kieu. 30 years old, with a passable level of spoken language, but no level of reading / writing. I made this trip with my little brother and a friend (also Viet Kieu,) but they know very little of the language due to being born in the states. Anyway, onto one of my experiences.

I was sitting in Highlands Coffee in the basement of Vincom with my friend when we started talking about what the wifi password was. A white guy explained to us what it is in English and we struck up a conversation. He explained how he had been living here for 15 years and he showed me his Viet (way better than mine. With a northern accent as well. Hilarious.) We asked him where we could go for a good time, not being too knowledgeable. He told us that Bui Vien would be a good place to start. He told me that it was Vietnam's closest thing to Thailand. I had been to Thailand three times before that due to being in the Navy, so I really doubted it based on Vietnamese cultural differences but I wanted to see for myself. He also gave me the name and address of a bar that he hangs out at very often. He told me once we were tired of Bui Vien and wanted something classier we should check that place out (ill report on that one later.)

That night we set out for Bui Vien. The taxi driver dropped us off at crazy buffalo and we walked from there. I could kinda see what our helpful friend meant about it resembling Thailand. Very mixed crowd, actually noticed more Caucasian backpackers than Viets, cheap beers, and ladyboys. Kinda amusing to me. We went inside the first bar we saw with girls. Immediately one girl screamed "dep trai", ran straight to my little brother, grabbed his arm and wouldn't let go (to be 21 and in shape again.) We ordered drinks and asked the only male there what the deal was. Apparently we looked like suckers, so he quoted us something ridiculous. It was about a month ago so I'm foggy on the exact number he gave but it was close to 1.5M for a fuck. I laughed at him, we drank and paid for our beers and I didn't even want to bargain with him after such a terrible opening offer. It helped that the girls working there werent very attractive either, though they did seem young.

We shuffled down the rest of the road, where my brother, being young and inexperienced, was mesmerized by some titties. I had to explain to him with brotherly love to check out more than the chest. Because he was being enthralled by a ladyboy. One of the many lessons he learned on this trip. We hit up another bar that had a pool table. There were girls, but no one that impressed me. He apparently thought one of the girls was cute and spent time talking to her. My friend and I just played pool and drank beer for a couple hours. When we got bored with pool, my friend said he didn't need to bang that night and wanted to head home. I told him to please take my brother back too because I'm definitely not going home alone. (My bro did manage to get his girls number, but did not meet up with her until a later time.) So, I set off on my own but lucked out shortly after.

Instead of finding a girl at a bar to take home, I was approached by a tout? (do we call women touts too?) She told me she could call out a bunch of girls if I just came with her. She wanted to lead me into a little alley off Bui Vien, but I was skeptical. I asked her how long of a walk and she assured me very close. It was less than a minute walk. She told me to sit down in front of a motel and girls would come. Somehow the topic of where I am from came up. She told me that if I agreed on a girl, I had to make sure they know I was Viet Kieu because they would not go with a Viet customer. I asked her to explain this, but she would not. Simply that these girls would only go with foreigners. I didn't really stress it because it seemed silly to me. She made some phone calls and true to her word. 2 came out after a few minutes. I told them I wasn't interested. She told me no problem and got on the phone for more. I felt awkward sitting there checking out girls in front of the motel because the motel's guests were coming back from their own adventures, so she moved me away a bit that led to a big street. Unfortunately I am not sure about the name of that street. Girls came on motorbikes and I still wasn't interested in any of them, waving them away before they even got off the bike. Another tout joined the mix somehow and was getting his girls to come also.

Finally they called one that interested me. My wife is 85 pounds and this girl made her look fat. I would guess she was 80 (Sorry, I like them petite.) Very cute and young face and ultratight body with surprisingly nice titties (not flat.) I guess I couldn't control the enthusiasm on my face, because when I tried to bargain, they immediately shot me down. At this time it was around 1230-1AM and the price was 2M for all night until 7-8AM. I agreed with the price. Somehow things got weird when we were waiting for a cab to go back to my hotel. They were talking amongst themselves and I wasn't paying attention because I was so happy I got someone I found attractive. When we climbed into the cab, they were demanding that I pay the money first before I left with the girl. That upset me a bit. I flashed my wad of cash and said look, I have the money. You can see it but theres no way in hell I am paying beforehand. I guess seeing the money assured them and they made me agree to give my girl the money when we get to the hotel.

On the ride, we made introductions. She told me her name was Quyen and that she was 20. But she assured me she has papers (which my hotel would need.) She also explained to me that these girls do not go with Viet customers because after they bang, those guys sometimes just would flat out refuse to pay and kick them out. I asked her if she was hungry, but she politely refused. On the ride home we passed a bridge where I saw girls standing around who were obviously working. I asked her about them because a few actually looked very good, but she told me that they were dangerous due to being on drugs and would likely be robs. To this day I will never know how true that is because I never picked one of them up. I was told by others that those girls were "lucky / unlucky" (the Vietnamese way of saying 50/50.)

For some reason my hotel actually didn't ask for any paperwork at all even though earlier in the day they told me they would. I picked my key up at the desk and just made my way up to my room. We fooled around, hugged, kissed. I told her to go wash her face, brush her teeth, shower and get comfortable. For some reason she hesitated. She literally told me she had to call her boss / pimp to ask permission to wash her makeup off. It seemed utterly ridiculous to me, but I heard the phone conversation. After getting permission, she proceeded to clean up. We actually showered together and had a fun time. We spent a good 45 banging before my out of shape body gave up on me. We talked for awhile and she gave me some of her life story and I gave her some of mine. We fooled around a little more after that then passed out. She got a call in the morning from her "boss" telling her to go home. She asked my permission as well and, of course, I agreed. We exchanged numbers and I told her I would call her, which I definitely did, but are other stories. Not a bad first encounter with Vietnam's naughty side.

[AskeAske]

I arrived two days ago and this is what I have experienced so far.

Day 1.

Arrived 11 am. Did my hotel, Ho Sen 2 and went for a walk around in District 1. Did a bar and met some expats from my own country. Got a lot to drink. 1.00 am I went on Acopalypse Now with two Englishmen I had met at the bar. We continued to drink. We danced with the girls and had a party. I took a girl home, ST. 1,000, 000 dong (about $ 50). There is no barfine at Aco, only frelancers.

Day 2.

Sleep late. Was a little tired. Had an agreement with the girl from yesterday, but she canceled. Went to the bar again, but only drank cola. Made dinner agreement with the waitress for the day after.

Went to bar 91 What a scam. Beautiful girls, but very expensive. Got a drink and bought a drink for a girl. 100, 000 dong in all. This is ok. However, the girl wanted $ 200 for LT and $ 25 BF. Is this a normal price? Is Vietnam become so expensive? I said that it was too expensive, paid my drinks and would go. Then they demanded the girl $ 15 for talking to me. A little tip might be ok, but $ 15 can buy you a ST with a frelancer in Cambodia. I went out and the girls called bouncer, but I just carried out and no follow after for me. Is this normal behavior in Vietnam? Never tried something like this in Thailand or Cambodia.

I went on Aco again. On Sundays only open on the bottom floor, but there were many cute girls. Appointment LT with a girl. She demanded 2,500,000 dong, but I got it negotiated down to 1,500,000 dong ($ 80).

She told me that she often got 150. 200 dollar LT and that she had a sponsor who sent $ 1,000 a month.

I have read many pages on ISG, but have difficulty understanding the price etc. Can some of the regulars help me?

Now it is day 3. I have an appointment with waitres from yesterday 7:00 pm. It's her day off today. I see what happens.

[Medanboy]

Hi Medan,

Thanks for your long and detailed report. As most of you know, I appreciate detail. Regarding your experience with the girl, she is simply trafficked and pimped. You did not give her any money except for the 20, 000 Dong (Less than $1). You gave 500, 000 Dong to the receptionist (around $25) but you can be sure the girl got little of any of that (50, 000 at most). That's why she just wanted you to finish, why there was no GFE, so her pimp, the motoguy and hotel could get paid and she would not get slapped around by her boss.

JDThanks for the input. I had 200. 000 ready in my pocket if she did a little bit extra effort.

Alright back in ho chi min as the riots are starting in phnom pehn. Was tired from the busdrive and long immigration wait. Went finally for some food in the evening. Had a few drinks with nice music at a bar under a "bank"building. I think its called am cham. Next to starbuck / opposite of kfc. At nguyen thi nghia street. One if the bigger buildings in vietnam. Had a few good drinks outside, nice music and was thinking maybe vietnam is not do bad after all when I noticed the street lights and motors passing. Oke I know; I judge after only beeing two days in a certain part of a city in a big country. But still the mototaxi had tryed to rip me off again. I got the bill before even getting all what was offered. I understand it was closing. Time and the bartender left but no need to include that last not received cocktail on the bill and not bring me the cigarettes who where still lying at the bar. (made me remember why I had a bad first imptession of vietnam althoug this one could be accidental). Anyways after my short transcendent time as I felt nostalgic and soon I would have to change to a country where FS is to expensive for me and I wouldn't even know where to find it. Neither would I be able to get it for free. Yess tslking about japan; well some girls came sitting a bit higher next to my table. Some smiles and a shortalk. Ssme as me she thought there was a mirror / window between her and me. Later I tryed to be polite by asking if my smoking wasnt annoying her. Oke enough. I just want to say she gave me a nice smile and waved when they left. I'm sure she took a picture if me during her own photoshoot. All good lookers (8/10).

Point of the story even though I was tired I didn't feel like sleeping at closing time (midnight) but wasnt able to explore the better known places in the city for girls. I was wondering why peiple wanted to go up at the elevator nect to the toilets and often 9/10 were refused acess earlier in the evening. I said I wanted another cocktail to say goodbye to vietnam and guess what above my head on the 26th floor is one of the highest open bars in ho chi min. Like sky bar in bca jakarta or the the marina bay in Singapore. The closing guy mafe me skip reservation as it was supposed to be full. I go up. Empty inside. I go outside. I notice some empty tables at the side 10 m from the action. Oke no problem. All 9/10 ladys mixed around. Some doing their har and reputtin their breasts up when they see me looking around from a distance. Apparently itvwas the end of a wedding party. One 21 year old alone at the table area next to me. A 6. 5 in face for although pretty maintained. No dress. Long jeans. 8.5 if I had to put a dress on it. No fat or pregnancy marks expected. Where everybody was drinking cocktails she had a tigerbeer and seemed a bit drunk. The security said she had 3 and was sad cause her love had refused to date her. I told myself go for the 9s but overcurious as I am I made contact and while we talk all others were gone by closing time (1:40). She seened comfortable with me. Said she was a bad girl but I didn't feel that she would ask money. My hotel around the block. She stay. Came 3 times that night. GFE 10. At 14:00 we go eating. She say not the first time she do like that. She take a taxi homevas I have to go to.

No money asked. Felt it woud be offending to offef. Asked a few time what she expected. No specific answer. Great effort and experience. Average to decent looks and after what I saw in the bar upstairs I have some hopes for vietnam after all. If that quality is on pay somewhere.

[Medanboy]

Hi Medan,

Thanks for your long and detailed report. As most of you know, I appreciate detail. Regarding your experience with the girl, she is simply trafficked and pimped. You did not give her any money except for the 20, 000 Dong (Less than $1). You gave 500, 000 Dong to the receptionist (around $25) but you can be sure the girl got little of any of that (50, 000 at most). That's why she just wanted you to finish, why there was no GFE, so her pimp, the motoguy and hotel could get paid and she would not get slapped around by her boss.

JDThanks for the input. I had 200. 000 ready in my pocket if she did a little bit extra effort.

Alright back in ho chi min as the riots are starting in phnom pehn. Was tired from the busdrive and long immigration wait. Went finally for some food in the evening. Had a few drinks with nice music at a bar under a "bank"building. I think its called am cham. Next to starbuck / opposite of kfc. At nguyen thi nghia street. One if the bigger buildings in vietnam. Had a few good drinks outside, nice music and was thinking maybe vietnam is not do bad after all when I noticed the street lights and motors passing. Oke I know; I judge after only beeing two days in a certain part of a city in a big country. But still the mototaxi had tryed to rip me off again. I got the bill before even getting all what was offered. I understand it was closing. Time and the bartender left but no need to include that last not received cocktail on the bill and not bring me the cigarettes who where still lying at the bar. (made me remember why I had a bad first imptession of vietnam althoug this one could be accidental). Anyways after my short transcendent time as I felt nostalgic and soon I would have to change to a country where FS is to expensive for me and I wouldn't even know where to find it. Neither would I be able to get it for free. Yess tslking about japan; well some girls came sitting a bit higher next to my table. Some smiles and a shortalk. Ssme as me she thought there was a mirror / window between her and me. Later I tryed to be polite by asking if my smoking wasnt annoying her. Oke enough. I just want to say she gave me a nice smile and waved when they left. I'm sure she took a picture if me during her own photoshoot. All good lookers (8/10).

Point of the story even though I was tired I didn't feel like sleeping at closing time (midnight) but wasnt able to explore the better known places in the city for girls. I was wondering why peiple wanted to go up at the elevator nect to the toilets and often 9/10 were refused acess earlier in the evening. I said I wanted another cocktail to say goodbye to vietnam and guess what above my head on the 26th floor is one of the highest open bars in ho chi min. Like sky bar in bca jakarta or the the marina bay in Singapore. The closing guy mafe me skip reservation as it was supposed to be full. I go up. Empty inside. I go outside. I notice some empty tables at the side 10 m from the action. Oke no problem. All 9/10 ladys mixed around. Some doing their har and reputtin their breasts up when they see me looking around from a distance. Apparently itvwas the end of a wedding party. One 21 year old alone at the table area next to me. A 6. 5 in face for although pretty maintained. No dress. Long jeans. 8.5 if I had to put a dress on it. No fat or pregnancy marks expected. Where everybody was drinking cocktails she had a tigerbeer and seemed a bit drunk. The security said she had 3 and was sad cause her love had refused to date her. I told myself go for the 9s but overcurious as I am I made contact and while we talk all others were gone by closing time (1:40). She seened comfortable with me. Said she was a bad girl but I didn't feel that she would ask money. My hotel around the block. She stay. Came 3 times that night. GFE 10. At 14:00 we go eating. She say not the first time she do like that. She take a taxi homevas I have to go to.

No money asked. Felt it woud be offending to offef. Asked a few time what she expected. No specific answer. Great effort and experience. Average to decent looks and after what I saw in the bar upstairs I have some hopes for vietnam after all. If that quality is on pay somewhere.

No problem to get her in the hotel. At checkout I heard the reception ladys and guy mentionned she was s bad girl. She said: perhaps. Well thats what she told me after. To me it seemed they all smiled. I noticed a seperate book by the bellboys of which the receptionist girls had no idea of it existence. Perhaps girls go usually home more early. At comeback I friendly asked why thety had mentionned vad. He said money girl. I said for free. They still seem to worship me (or make fun if me as ky vietnam perception seens ti be a bit off. Hotel is gff.

[Appolyon]

I arrived two days ago and this is what I have experienced so far.

Day 1.

Arrived 11 am. Did my hotel, Ho Sen 2 and went for a walk around in District 1. Did a bar and met some expats from my own country. Got a lot to drink. 1.00 am I went on Acopalypse Now with two Englishmen I had met at the bar. We continued to drink. We danced with the girls and had a party. I took a girl home, ST. 1,000, 000 dong (about $ 50). There is no barfine at Aco, only frelancers.

Day 2.

Sleep late. Was a little tired. Had an agreement with the girl from yesterday, but she canceled. Went to the bar again, but only drank cola. Made dinner agreement with the waitress for the day after.

Went to bar 91 What a scam. Beautiful girls, but very expensive. Got a drink and bought a drink for a girl. 100, 000 dong in all. This is ok. However, the girl wanted $ 200 for LT and $ 25 BF. Is this a normal price? Is Vietnam become so expensive?..I cannot comment on how 91 used to be run because they were shut down not too long ago and reopened. I only have had two experiences since they reopened. Their policies might have changed. I don't know if it was my unique experience or the norm for this place. I think each girl has her own pricing and if she will accept to go home with you at all. My friend and I went there one night. I specifically was interested in only one girl and he the same. However, my girl got tied up with another customer before I could talk to her. My friend played pool with his girl and I told the staff if my girl was free that I would like to sit with her. I sat alone and enjoyed my fake jack and coke. My friend talked to his girl and she agreed to go home with him. I waited until 15 mins before their closing time and all but had given up hope, but they told me my girl was available. Having so little time, I sat down with her and cut to the chase. I didn't even order her a drink. I told her that I was interested in her, if she wanted to come with me tonight it would make me happy. She gave me a nod and her number, but she told me that it would have to be after the bar closed and she would meet me in another location. Once everything was good to go, the girls met us around the corner and we took a taxi. They said they were hungry, so we went to an on the street restaurant. At this point, we still did not agree to a price. My friends girl told us that all night would be $150. I told her that we were used to paying $100. She didn't seem to like the price at first, but I told her that's just what we've been paying. She relented. I asked my girl if she was ok with it, all she said was up to you. Later in my room, my girl confessed that while she has gone a few times with customers, it was only when she truly needed money for something important. Normally she is able just to live off the tips from being a hostess and rejects guys offers for extra activities. The customer that sat with her until almost the closing apparently didn't understand the rules of the place due to language barrier. He was insisting that she go change clothes and go home with him immediately. Maybe he was thinking Thailand style where you barfine and go, but didn't understand she could not leave until her workplace permitted. His loss my gain.

Long story short, depends on the girl what her price is. If you can sweet talk or convince them, their prices are obviously negotiable but if you are an asshole they might straight up refuse you unless you want to pay something obscene and they can't refuse.

[D Cups]

I arrived two days ago and this is what I have experienced so far.

Is this a normal price? Is Vietnam become so expensive?

I have read many pages on ISG, but have difficulty understanding the price etc. Can some of the regulars help me?

Now it is day 3. I have an appointment with waitres from yesterday 7:00 pm. It's her day off today. I see what happens.Hi AA, I have been to Vietnam 10X since 2007 (for work) and yes, it has gotten expensive. Most Apocalypse Now and other bar girls want $100 all night, some even more. $50 for BBBJ in the bar. Yet there are some stunningly beautiful, sexy women, and it is still a bargain by Western standards. Benny's used to be the low-cost hot toc provider but it was closed when I was there in June. (Maybe someone can state whether it has reopened?) If you can befriend a waitress or other regular girl it will be better and cheaper. I love going on the motorbike with some hot chick. Good luck. Let us know what happened with the waitress.

[D Cups]

I arrived two days ago and this is what I have experienced so far.

Is this a normal price? Is Vietnam become so expensive?

I have read many pages on ISG, but have difficulty understanding the price etc. Can some of the regulars help me?

Now it is day 3. I have an appointment with waitres from yesterday 7:00 pm. It's her day off today. I see what happens.Hi AA, I have been to Vietnam 10X since 2007 (for work) and yes, it has gotten expensive. Most Apocalypse Now and other bargirls want $100 all night, some even more. $50 for BBBJ in the bar. There is one in Smiley's on Thai Van Lung named Mai with the biggest natural tits in Vietnam (on a small frame) who sucks like hoover. There are other stunningly beautiful, sexy women, and it is still a bargain by Western standards. Benny's used to be the low-cost hot toc provider but it was closed when I was there in June. (Maybe someone can state whether it has reopened?) If you can befriend a waitress or other regular girl it will be better and cheaper. I love going on the motorbike with some hot chick. Good luck. Let us know what happened with the waitress.

I am still searching for a hot toc like Benny's that is in D3 so I don't have to go so far from my hotel. Any advice, fellow horn dogs? . Thanks.

[CRLuverGuy]

Anyone have experience w moto girls. They are usually driving around traffic circle at Dien Bien Phu and cross streets to XVNT.

I had a great time few years back 400,000 for BBBJ and FS. U follow the girl on her moto and park inside small hotel. Pay upfront go in the room w her. Have fun for about 45min and go on your way. Girl was 20 or so. Nice firm small body face about 8.

[OzzieSuds]

Anyone have experience w moto girls. They are usually driving around traffic circle at Dien Bien Phu and cross streets to XVNT.

I had a great time few years back 400, 000 for BBBJ and FS. U follow the girl on her moto and park inside small hotel. Pay upfront go in the room w her. Have fun for about 45min and go on your way. Girl was 20 or so. Nice firm small body face about 8.RTFF There are a million reports in here about guys getting robbed by moto gals and their friends. Be careful.

[TunerSuite]

Hi guys,

The prices in HCMC have gone off the roofs recently I'm really struggling to find a safe haven to carry out my duties. Unfortunately I am very cash-tight, and not on business trips so staying in D1 hotels is putting a drain in my wallet.

Could somebody kindly provide a short list of the most affordable, yet clean and safe hotels in District one where you can just come in with a girl, book a room for a few hours, then come out unnoticed? Can I find places for less than $20 per use?

Thank you, and happy trip in HCMC!

[Wendella]

On the ride home we passed a bridge where I saw girls standing around who were obviously working. I asked her about them because a few actually looked very good, but she told me that they were dangerous due to being on drugs and would likely be robs. To this day I will never know how true that is because I never picked one of them up. I was told by others that those girls were "lucky / unlucky" (the Vietnamese way of saying 50/50.)In your post you had been talking about picking up a girl in the Bui Vien / Pham Ngu Lao backpacker area, and then going home and passing this bridge. Where was your hotel? Just curious to get an idea which bridge this is that you passed or crossed. Also, about what time was this?

[Appolyon]

In your post you had been talking about picking up a girl in the Bui Vien / Pham Ngu Lao backpacker area, and then going home and passing this bridge. Where was your hotel? Just curious to get an idea which bridge this is that you passed or crossed. Also, about what time was this?My hotel was at 97/3 Le Quang Dinh St. Ward 14, Binh Thanh District. The time was approx 12-1AM. Hope it helps.

[Raverboy]

My hotel was at 97/3 Le Quang Dinh St. Ward 14, Binh Thanh District. The time was approx 12-1AM. Hope it helps.I would have thought you crossed Thi Nghe Bridge as this bridge is known for standing SWs. However to the location you mention from Q1 you would have (more logically!) crossed Bong Bridge?

[Appolyon]

I would have thought you crossed Thi Nghe Bridge as this bridge is known for standing SWs. However to the location you mention from Q1 you would have (more logically!) crossed Bong Bridge?I can honestly say I have no idea. Unless the taxi driver took me on a longer path to up the price of the fare. I am very bad with names, so I could not say what that bridge's name was.

[Wendella]

I would have thought you crossed Thi Nghe Bridge as this bridge is known for standing SWs. However to the location you mention from Q1 you would have (more logically!) crossed Bong Bridge?Which bridge is Bong bridge? Not finding that on my map. I haven't seen anything on bridges or motorbikes up in that area for a long long time. Years. So it surprised me to see this report mentioning it.

[Appolyon]

Which bridge is Bong bridge? Not finding that on my map. I haven't seen anything on bridges or motorbikes up in that area for a long long time. Years. So it surprised me to see this report mentioning it.Really? I have passed that bridge at least 10 times in my month there and there were always girls. The only day there weren't was some holiday. Wish I remembered the name. I looked at the signs at least two times, but the names don't mean anything to me so I forget.

[Wendella]

Really? I have passed that bridge at least 10 times in my month there and there were always girls. The only day there weren't was some holiday. Wish I remembered the name. I looked at the signs at least two times, but the names don't mean anything to me so I forget.As you approached this bridge from the District 1 side, before crossing over into Binh Thanh district, was there what looked like a park on the right side? (if so then it muat have been Thi Nghe bridge)

Just after that bridge there used to also be motorbike girls circling. Now there's a divider in the road for a long way up, and I don't see the motorbike action happening there any more.

[AmericanThief]

I've been here a year, and I go to work via that bridge. I've never seen any motorbike girls or SWs. Then again, I usually don't cross that bridge at night. A few times, and I always got my eyes open, but nothing. Even if they were there I would stay away from them. Two of my friends have been robbed by freelance girls. Both times had their iPads stolen along with cash and keys.

[Appolyon]

As you approached this bridge from the District 1 side, before crossing over into Binh Thanh district, was there what looked like a park on the right side? (if so then it muat have been Thi Nghe bridge)

Just after that bridge there used to also be motorbike girls circling. Now there's a divider in the road for a long way up, and I don't see the motorbike action happening there any more.It was really dark at night. So I don't think I saw any park. There might be, but I just noticed the girls cause there are under the lights. There was only one time that I saw two girls circling on a motorbike. The girl in the backseat asked if I wanted anything, but I didn't answer.

[Raverboy]

Which bridge is Bong bridge? Not finding that on my map. I haven't seen anything on bridges or motorbikes up in that area for a long long time. Years. So it surprised me to see this report mentioning it.

Bong Bridge is as labelled on this link. You cross it on Dien Tien Hoang Street going from Q1 to Q Binh Thanh and vice versa:

http://www.diadiem.com/vnmap.aspx?l=0&st=SaiGon&n=50%3B50%3B438016%3B1236992%3B438016%3B1237248%3B9%3B5%3B0%3B439051%3B1237749%3B879360%3B2476340%3B0%3B-1&s=0&a=0206140301140209425058565E5E140301654350545414030172545E45544314030160591402775F56150301080000140208140372140300655E5F1403017444521403016558505F56140372150301611F14030073545F1403017E565954140372150301601F14030000

Time to get a new map, Wendella.

[Nullnull]

Day 3.

Returned form Vung Tau (see report in Other Regions thread) , checked in at the Continental, had dinner with a Viet friend and around 10pm I was in the mood for some pussy so I decided to stroll up and down Hai Ba Trung. Lots of bike drivers were offering me their services but a very petite young looking girl caught my attention. She claimed to have many beautiful girls available. She later confessed that her boss engaged her for her innocent looks so customers would trust her more easily than some weird looking pimp (yeah they know how we work). She promised me that I didn't have to take any ride by motorbike and she could bring the girls to any public place, of course "no like no pay". Damaged was supposed to be 1. 500. 000 VND (all included).

What the heck, not super cheap but it didn't seem totally overpriced so I agreed and waited in front of a street cafe. Few minutes later her first girl showed up. Although somehow cute she didn't meet my expectations so the little girl asked me for my lkings. Said my usual "slim, tall and young" stuff and soon another girl appeared. And what a cute she was. Not really tall (well maybe for Vietnamese standard every girl above 158cm is "tall") but she had a beautiful face and I already felt a hard one in my trousers just be the way she smiled at me so I agreed. Walked with her to a nearby hotel (could be on Dong Du but I am not sure).

Paid the girl the full fee she negotiated with the hotel staff and off to the room we went. Hotel was OK by the way. If it wasn't full of mongers with their girls I wouldn't mind to stay there even for a full night since it seemed to be clean. We showered together and then moved to the bed. Thank God she didn't hesitate to give me uncovered BJ. Later I fucked her in mish and doggy. She was performing a bit mechanically but for my first fuck in Vietnam it wasn't bad. Although we had agreed on two hours before she was about to put on her clothes again after showering. That seems to be the lesson I had to learn. Two hours meant one pop only and her English wasn't that good to discuss these matters. Apart from that these kind of discussions can kill the mood quite easily so I gave up. She later asked for some tip which I gave to her we kissed goodbye and went down to the lobby. Her innocent looking pimp was already waiting for us and walked me back to my hotel. We had a nice little chit chat on the way and she gave me her number just in case I would need her services again. She advised me to call during daytime so the girl could also visit my room before 7pm.

Day 4.

Prvate stuff to do and a girl (not a hooker) could come to my room during daytime.

Day 5.

Took a taxi to Ben Ny's during early afternoon. The taxi driver must have played some game with me because the fare was almost twice as much as on the way back to city centre later. There was another Hot Toc where I was expecting Ben Ny's to be but I could see Ben Ny's sign from there. Paid 120. 000 VND up front and the only girl sitting in the entrance area walked me upstairs. On the way I saw some other girls waiting in a room but since my girl seemed to be fine I didn't ask to see ther girls first (didn't really know if this would have been possible). The rooms upstairs are a bit weird, not really private since I could see the heads of other customers who were serviced there. The girl did some washing of my cock with wet tissues and then the action started. She gave me a few kisses on my neck and chest and guided my hands to her nice tits then she started performing an uncovered BJ. While there was nothing super exciting about her technique she performed well enough to let me cum in her mouth despite all the weird atmosphere there. After that she gargled and at some point I feared she would vomit but she smiled bravely. She cleaned me up again, gave me some kisses on the cheek and brought my downstairs. I saw a lot of foreigner faces during my little stay there.

At night (around 11. 30pm) I decided to test the infamous Apocalypse Now. Soon I found myself chatting to two cuties (didn't look like WG, at least they didn't wear high heals but sandals and sneakers) but somehow I wasn't much in the charming mood so they left the joint soon without me. Watching the scenery I realised again how much I normally hate such venues. Men in their 40s to 50s dancing hysterically to stupid disco tunes with hardened hookers as if they were having the times of their lifes! Some Japanese guy had two super hot women dancing around him all night but the rest of the very obvious hookers wasn't exactly my cup of tea. Most of them a bit too chubby or too vulgar looking. I've had a few beers and hoped for some mracle to happen but it didn't. So I walked back to my hotel around 1. 00am on my own. Since I had FS or at least BJ on most of the days in Vietnam so far I wasn't too disappointed.

(To be continued)

[Wendella]

Time to get a new map, Wendella.Ha! It's all these names and words, it confuses me so.

So does anyone think they have an idea which bridge he is describing? I'm thinking it must be the old zoo bridge (Cau Thi Nghe) , but there's no way for me to confirm at those times. Never out that late these days. The few times I was free enough to go have a look myself in those old areas in the past year or so, it was again and again nothing nothing nothing. So I just assumed it was closed down permanently. Another nearby spot for motorbikes was Nguyen Binh Khiem just before the DBP roundabout. All the spots in that general area seemed to be shut down to me.

[GentleBright]

Hi Guys,

I arrived in the city for the first time and will stay here several weeks. Anybody interested to have a drink?

[Bac Si Dre]

Hey guys,

I've read for a high enough price it is possible to poon a known actress or model in VN. I am not talking about the skeezes that claim to be models, I am talking about an actress that has done actual work in a real production like VN language movies my relatives watch here in the US. I would easily pay 4 figures to poon the Viet Natalie P or Scarlett J. What say you guys about this? Give me some guidance oh you wise mongers on Saigon.

[Bac Si Dre]

Hey guys,

I've read for a high enough price it is possible to poon a known actress or model in VN. I am not talking about the skeezes that claim to be models, I am talking about an actress that has done actual work in a real production like VN language movies my relatives watch here in the US. I would easily pay 4 figures to poon the Viet Natalie P or Scarlett J. What say you guys about this? Give me some guidance oh you wise mongers on Saigon.Also, as anyone tried these escort services? They're quite pricey, but the girls look top shelf. I am fearful the pictures are not real and taken from websites or magazine. How authentic are they? Again I am looking for quality over quantity. I'd rather pay good money than cut prices for disease ridden vag.

http://vietnamescortservice.com/

http://saigonescortagency.com/

http://saigonescortgirls.weebly.com/index.html

[GentleBright]

Hi Guys,

I already asked if anybody is in town, but nobody replied. I stay here for a month, so just pm me if you have time.

Anyway, I started to check out all the places that I found in here. I have been reading a lot of reports (till 2009) and found some maps that you guys have been posting. With my bike, I am riding now.

To all those places to see if it's still actual. Not easy for me as it is my first time here.

For sure:

1. The old milfs on Hong Bang are still there. I saw 20 of them around 2am. One asked 500,000. Was too funny. I went away. I just asked by curiosity.

2. Ba trung SW in front of park. I saw 10 of them, mostly mild. But I was late, around 1am. Will go earlier next time.

3. Apocalypse now: mostly milfs. Also been there late, around 2:30am. They came to me. Insisted on going with me. Didn't even ask the price. Was not interested.

4. Ngyen Chi Thanh: approached by a guy on a moto with 2 girls. 700,000 each. One of them was pregnant. Didn't take but kept the guys' phone. I felt he was overpricing.

5. Went to Tan Binh to find the Hot tocs. Was lost for more then an hour. Didn't find those places. Got help by some members here (chatting on thi site with my 3G connection) , finally found out.

That Tan Binh is very big and that there are for sure some hot tocs with service around thâng long street (with Â, not A) , Ba Vi street. Found a hot toc and got service for 850,000. Was nice but nothing special.

6. No action on Ngyen thi Minh Khai, but I was probably too late.

More later of course, when I start to get used to this.

In attach, a map I created, starting from the old members info.

[GentleBright]

Been riding around again.

Been to Tan Binh first at 10 pm. Had a cute 20yo Girl in a Korean BBS, very sweet girl. Great service. It was in Ba VI.

After that to Bui Vien. Many people there. It was 1 am but the discos were still empty. A girl told me that it only starts at 3am.

Talked with a girl at one of the bars. There was a real good Chemistry between us and she wanted to go with me. But I wanted to look around first and.

Maybe find better. I saw real stunners walking around there all the time, that's why. Talked with a MILF who also wanted to go with me but I told her that I wanted a girl.

I told her I would give her a tip if she would bring me a very cute and stunning girl. I described the type I wanted. And what happen after.

Was unbelievable. She called a friend and 15 min later she was there. Totally what I wanted. We settled the price at 100 dollar. Up to my hotel.

I was very horny because of this doll but she was fucking starfish and wanted me to do it fast. Did not allow me to make any pic also. I hate that.

So next time I will first see if there is a chemistry, before taking a girl to my hotel, I guess.

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[Raverboy]

Hi Guys,

I already asked if anybody is in town, but nobody replied. I stay here for a month, so just pm me if you have time.

Anyway, I started to check out all the places that I found in here. I have been reading a lot of reports (till 2009) and found some maps that you guys have been posting. With my bike, I am riding now.

To all those places to see if it's still actual. Not easy for me as it is my first time here.

For sure:

1. The old milfs on Hong Bang are still there. I saw 20 of them around 2am. One asked 500, 000. Was too funny. I went away. I just asked by curiosity.

2. Ba trung SW in front of park. I saw 10 of them, mostly mild. But I was late, around 1am. Will go earlier next time.

3. Apocalypse now: mostly milfs. Also been there late, around 2:30am. They came to me. Insisted on going with me. Didn't even ask the price. Was not interested.

4. Ngyen Chi Thanh: approached by a guy on a moto with 2 girls. 700, 000 each. One of them was pregnant. Didn't take but kept the guys' phone. I felt he was overpricing.

5. Went to Tan Binh to find the Hot tocs. Was lost for more then an hour. Didn't find those places. Got help by some members here (chatting on thi site with my 3G connection) , finally found out.

That Tan Binh is very big and that there are for sure some hot tocs with service around thâng long street (with Â, not A) , Ba Vi street. Found a hot toc and got service for 850, 000. Was nice but nothing special.

6. No action on Ngyen thi Minh Khai, but I was probably too late.

More later of course, when I start to get used to this.

In attach, a map I created, starting from the old members info.2. You mean Hai Ba Trung. That park along Hai Ba Trung marked in your attached map is Le Van Tam. What do you mean by describing them as 'mostly mild'? MILF you mean?

6. Action on Nguyen Thi Minh Khai? This is a very long street. Which part of NTMK are you referring to?

[GentleBright]

2. Yes I mean MILF. Sorry for the autocorrection on my phone!

6. The part close to the bridge

[AdHome01]

The MILF sounds like Kim. She has a stable of girls she gets from the country, they're super hot but inexperienced. Kim will go with customers too.

[GentleBright]

The MILF sounds like Kim. She has a stable of girls she gets from the country, they're super hot but inexperienced. Kim will go with customers too.You are talking about which Kim? Where to be found? If I know, I will have a look at her new girls for sure.

Thanks

[GentleBright]

Finally made it to Bennys yesterday. 7pm. I had difficult to find it at first. It's said that there are more B&G in that street, but couldn't find them. But ended up in Bennys where there were only 3 girls available. I liked one and tried it. 125 000 entry + 200 000 for the service. It was the first time for me to do such a blowjob place. Had a guys siting next of me, getting his BJ. Very funny but Liked the whom experience! Especially the CIM. But somehow I missed the fucking too.

Been back today, earlier this time. 5pm. Again, only 3 girls, no other customers this time. Took the same girl as yesterday. She has BJ-lips and I love that. After it was done, I went on looking for other places like this but didn't see any. Are they closed now?

[GentleBright]

Yesterday Lush disco for the ladies night. Many people, many hot babes. It was fun but I was a little lost. Didn't know where to start. I was happy when a girl came to me. She looked sexy but not totally my style. She asked 200 dollar. She only wanted to go to 150 dollar. I said no. Left the place and went to Bui vien where I talked with a bargirl that I finally bar fined. 200 000 dong for the bar. 2 million for her. Good deal, she was totally great. BBfuck. Night and morning. Me love you long time. She wants to come back tonight. Maybe.

[YellowFevers]

Had a night exploring this area. Visited most of the Bars with rooms and girls in no particular order. After plenty of beers settled on a bar on LHS if walking from the river about 300 meters + up, with black frontage. Took a liking to one of the girls and got on really well. We ended up going to a room upstairs for BBBJ. Pricey at 50$ but worth it as she was a def 9, with great slurping skills! I think lady drinks are 3.25$, and bought a few of these to help things flow, but it is not really a good value P4P experience!

The percentage of hotties is low around here, but there is the odd slinky thing as I discovered, and so was glad to have looked at all the bars.

Visited Apoc Now. Probably too early as it was not busy, and only a few FL's hanging around on the street outside. Prefer my action earlier on and without loud noise in disco places so guess that will never be a good option. Will go back for a look at the hotties hanging around on the street nearby though.

YF

[Goons]

Guys,

Frstly I'm aware this may not be the best place to post this but I can't seem to start my own threads I thought I would try here anyway. Apologies if I'm breaking the forum rules but I can't seem to find any other place to ask.

I'm in the process of making preliminary accommodations to HCM and Cambodia doing all the touristy things one does in these parts over the course of 12 days. I need to ask which is "better" for mongering either HCM or PP so I know which city I can spend more time on. Right now I'm planning on spending 2 days in HCM. 5 going up and down Phnom Penh and Siam Reap and then returning to HCM for the reminder of my stay. I know it's different for everyone but I'd like any input at all based on experience. Any reason to stay in one place longer than another?

[D Cups]

I'd like any input at all based on experience. Any reason to stay in one place longer than another?Hi G. I've been to all three and HCM 10 times since 2007 (for work). Only been to SR and PP once so my experience is limited there. Still, I'd recommend SR for cheap massages with happy endings / maybe BBBJ, hotels and sight-seeing at Angkor what. PP is also cheap but I had more fun in SR. HCM lots to do and girls are harder to get but they are available at certain hot tocs like Benny's (read the forum) and discos like Apocalypse Now. The former is cheap BBBJ (approximately $15) but usually no take out. The latter is actually expensive. They are asking $100 for overnight now. We'd have to get reports on the current action on Hai Bai Trung to find better value. Good luck.

[Johndao]

Yesterday Lush disco for the ladies night. Many people, many hot babes. It was fun but I was a little lost. Didn't know where to start. I was happy when a girl came to me. She looked sexy but not totally my style. She asked 200 dollar. She only wanted to go to 150 dollar. I said no. Left the place and went to Bui vien where I talked with a bargirl that I finally bar fined. 200 000 dong for the bar. 2 million for her. Good deal, she was totally great. BBfuck. Night and morning. Me love you long time. She wants to come back tonight. Maybe.Yes, sir! For around $105 I think she will want to come back every night!

[Traveler1234]

Hi G. I've been to all three and HCM 10 times since 2007 (for work). Only been to SR and PP once so my experience is limited there.

;)

Just to supplement:
HCM is probably one of the worst monger destinations, unless you speak the language. Stick with Cambodia, although not a comparable to LOS or other countries.

[Goons]

Thanks guys. I've had limited time to browse through the forum but is it really that bad over there? Apart from the 15 dollar blowjobs I was under the impression ST and LT sessions cost between 30-60usd, although those reports may have been from a few years ago.

I know the immediate area surrounding the touristy spots like the backpacker district and district 1 where most of the attractions are concentrated will probably have bars with inflated prices but I'm willing to venture further out if it gets me better prices / service.

Also, I've read of the policy or law in Vietnam of not taking a girl who isn't your spouse in the rooms, does the same apply in PP or SR?

[ColomboGuy4]

Hey guys,

I will be in Ho Chi Minh for the first time this month. Any advice and contacts will be greatly appreciated. Please PM me. Also, I would like to know the on going rates.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers!

[OldAsiaHand]

Hey guys,

I will be in Ho Chi Minh for the first time this month. Any advice and contacts will be greatly appreciated. Please PM me. Also, I would like to know the on going rates. Thanks in advance.

Cheers!CG4,

Did you bother to read any of the posts here? Do you expect somebody else to do your homework for you? Many of us have spent a lot of time posting useful information on here for the benefit of the brotherhood. Other lazy ones like you come in and expect free handouts without any effort whatsoever. Four posts, all asking for free assistance and not one useful field report. It is total disrespect for our efforts.

I suggest that you RTFF!

Just my POV.

OAH

[OldAsiaHand]

thanks guys. i've had limited time to browse through the forum but is it really that bad over there? apart from the 15 dollar blowjobs i was under the impression st and lt sessions cost between 30-60usd, although those reports may have been from a few years ago.

i know the immediate area surrounding the touristy spots like the backpacker district and district 1 where most of the attractions are concentrated will probably have bars with inflated prices but i'm willing to venture further out if it gets me better prices / service.

also, i've read of the policy or law in vietnam of not taking a girl who isn't your spouse in the rooms, does the same apply in pp or sr?goons,

i was in hcmc last week and stayed in district 1 in a 5 star hotel. i was with my freebie most of the time but did have one opportunity when she was away.

all but one of the bars on hbt have been shut and the only one left was asking $100 for 2 hours st. i peeked in the door. the quality was not good; mostly milf types. the touts on the street have girls for $50 st, maybe less if you negotiate with them. he showed me a couple of girls to look at and i took one back to my hotel. she was in a hurry as is usually the case with girls like this. that said, she gave a good bbbj and fs in multiple positions to my satisfaction. she stayed about 45 minutes for 1 million vnd.

my 5 star hotel was girl friendly until 11pm if the girls provided i'd. to stay overnight, i had to register my freebie. i booked 2 persons in the room when i made the reservation. i don't think this will work if you want to bring multiple girls for lt over the course of the stay.

just my pov.

oah

[D Cups]

Also, I've read of the policy or law in Vietnam of not taking a girl who isn't your spouse in the rooms, does the same apply in PP or SR?No, and it only applies to 3-star plus hotels in Vietnam.

[Skippyboy]

Will be staying in the Phu Nhuan District for a couple of days and I wondered if there are any similar be&g like my favorite BN's at 110 or similar. It has been 18 months since my last visit to Ho Chi Min and the pressure is building. Any suggestions would be gratefully received.

Skippyboy

[D Cups]

Hello Guys, I have been in HCMC all week and am happy to report Miss Ly at Benny's is still on top of her profession. 120K + 200K for girl. I also have phone # of slim and busty Miss Hang from a bar downtown who is a great kisser and will spend a passionate night with you for $100. PM me if you want. My other recommendation is #2 Miss Nhi at Saigon Star 9th floor massage. BBBJ and great professional massage for 700K. Vietnam remains relatively expensive. Tomorrow I try my luck in Vung Tau. Happy horndogging!

[Badboy27]

Spent a week in Ho Chi Minh and here is a summary of the trip.

Hotel: Female guests in 4 and 5 star hotels are not allowed. So choose any 3 star hotel. They are girl-friendly but they charge $15 extra for guest and she must deposit her I'd.

Clubs: Clubs are filled with women but also a large number of younger student-type guys from Europe / USA probably making the best of unemployment benefits . Men to women ratio was almost 1:1 Vietnamese are friendly, polite and curious.

Apocalypse - The best pick up club imo. Women are a mixed bag of occasional freelancers, hard core pros and normal women who come to chill out. Couple of them were stunning which was a pleasant surprise. Going rate for stunning ones could be as high as 200 USD for LT. Normal ones can be 100 - 150 / night. Saturday night also has several tourist obese white women. All were below 2 and 3

Lush Disco - Some good looking Viet women but also saw a lot of annoying western whales smoking like chimneys and swinging wildly which can be hazardous for your teeth while you gulp down that beer. This place is filled with smoke. I found a few 7 and 8 upstairs but no 9 or 10s Tuesday night is lady's night.

Napoly - It's basically a hostess bar. Every hot woman you see. And some are very pretty. Is actually a hostess. Just tell the manager which one you like and she would bring her to you. She would sit with you, talk to you in her broken english, drink with you, dance with you but it's not for take out. You will have to tip her 200, 000 to 300, 000 at the end. I was able to get the number of a hostess but had no time to meet her because of other dates.

Blanchy's. Walking distance from Apocalypse club. Some nice women but it closes early. Best time to go is about 11 pm

Touts: At every corner, guys on scooter will approach you offering women. Rate was $70. 90 / all night. Mostly 6-7 if you are lucky.

Scams:

Taxi - Taxi fare starts at 11000 dongs but some thugs keep a 2 lit up before that. They put up a hefty fight at the end and demand 230, 000 dongs rather than 30, 000. Solution is to simply drop 30, 000 in his lap and walk out while threatening to call the police. Keep walking while he tries to follow you.

Touts - Make it clear that there will be no tipping. Period. Otherwise everyone over there would ask for a tip. Also stipulate that you will pay next day. In fact this applies everywhere otherwise within 1 hour her sister / mother would call because she had some emergency and your chick would be gone.

Day time activities: Walk over to any of the malls and check out women. Malls are filled with women however nothing I saw that could be called 9s or 10s. Plenty of tourists from China, Korea and Japan. Met 3 decent looking women from Korea in a foot massage spa. Very friendly and spoke good english. I suppose it's possible to score with them if you have time. These foreign tourists are friendly if they are in a group. I thought single female tourists were too scared to talk to strangers. So strike a conversation with the hottest one in the group. War museum is also a good place for that.

[Rick Rock]

Visited most of the Bars with rooms and girls in no particular order. After plenty of beers settled on a bar on LHS if walking from the river about 300 meters + up, with black frontage. Took a liking to one of the girls and got on really well. We ended up going to a room upstairs for BBBJ. Pricey at 50$ but worth it as she was a def 9, with great slurping skills! I think lady drinks are 3.25$, and bought a few of these to help things flow, but it is not really a good value P4P experience!Where is LHS? Looked over the map several times and can't find a street with those initials anywhere around HBT.

[MutantChicken]

Where is LHS? Looked over the map several times and can't find a street with those initials anywhere around HBT.Wow omniscient Rick Rock doesn't know LHS, means Left Hand Side. The wonders never cease, FYI RHS means Right Hand Side.

[Tiger 888]

Wow omniscient Rick Rock doesn't know LHS, means Left Hand Side. The wonders never cease, FYI RHS means Right Hand Side.Wow, now you can be proud of having known something you disclose! And it's not a secret either.

[Catnip]

Hi all,

I am in Ho Chi Minh now and wanted to give an update on how my first day went.

First tried to go to the hot tocs in Dien Bu Phu street. I went at around 8pm. Only Benny"s (110 Dien Bu Phu, Binh Thanh District) is running (with only 3 or 4 girls working). My Tien has closed and is now a cafe called "Cafe Tien". Benny's procedure is the same as previously stated; 150K to the house + 200K to the girl. The girl did a great job. However since the limited number of girls working and quality plus only one hot toc running in that vicinity, I would suggest you go elsewhere.

After I went to a German restaurant and had dinner. Then walked along Hai Ba Trung street. They are open however I wasn't in the mood to partake as I was a sweaty pig. But the places are in full swing and many girls were milling around number 59 (I think).

Went back to my hotel (Hoang Hai Lai 2) and the bellmen are real chummy with me. I tip them well so they want to keep it going. As I walked into reception there was a group of Asians with some Viet girls (working girls for sure) and were promptly stopped by reception. Here's the rub, the hotel has no problem with you bringing girls in, however you will need to pay 15USD and sign a guarantee. I emailed the office beforehand and they replied just how I typed it.

After that commotion, I went into the elevator and the bellman followed suit. He then asked me if I wanted some company for ST. I was naturally curious and he offered million for ST. The girl came up and she was cute. A bit pudgy but I thought what the heck. She was a fish in bed and kept on saying quicker, fuck me (No kissing, no BBBJ). I wasn't impressed as you would imagine. Did the deed and tipped her only 100k. She wasn't happy but I told her her performance was less than desired. Funny thing though, I noticed she was wearing an engagement ring on her wedding finger. After she left the bellman that organised it came up to check and I told him she was no good. He was VERY apologetic and guaranteed that next one he will get me a great girl. I tipped him 200k and said it would have been more if she was better (got to show them some carrot and stick).

So all in all, Benny's is meh but still worth a gander if only to cross off the mongering bucket list. The hotel I mentioned above is more than accommodating as they are the ones supplying.

Anyway, that is it for the moment. If I do monger again I will report back.

Catnip

[Catnip]

Hi all!

First of all, cheers to previous posters on advice about the mongering spots.

I though I would give an overview of my first day in Saigon.

I went to Benny's at around 8pm (90 Dien Bu Phu, Binh Thanh district. Make sure you tell the taxi the correct district) and price was 150k to house + 200k to girl. Only 3-4 girls working. Quality wasn't that great but skills were a plus. The other hot toc down / up the road (My Tien. 110 Dien Bu Phu) has now closed and is just a cafe. Advice = only go here once to say you have been and done it. Not really worth the effort of finding it and repeating based on my experience.

After that I had dinner in Dong Khoi and asked for directions to Hai Ba Trung street. Walked down there and was propositioned many times by touts. Many of the bars previously mentioned are still running. Didn't go inside as I was a sweaty riceball (I am Asian) and wasn't in the mood. A street tout offered me a girl for 40USD plus hotel $20-30. I followed as I was curious and the girl was pretty enough. Hard to imagine how they look naked when they wear tight dresses and push and lifts up the main parts of the body. In the end I didn't go for it as again sweaty riceball. The hotel's name is Thien Kim Duc the tout showed me if anyone is game.

After that hit a casino and won some dough. Then went back to my hotel (Hoang Hai Lai 2. Right next to Binh Thanh market) and witnessed a commotion of 3 Asians trying to bring up 2 working girls. They were promptly stopped by reception. After this sideshow I entered the elevator and the bellman followed me. The bellman here like me as I tip them well. He offered in hushed tones a girl for me ST at 1mil or 400k for massage. Even though we were the only ones in the elevator. I accepted and about 20mins later he brought up a cute girl. She showered and I did the same. However she was a fish, no kissing, no BBBJ. As expected I wasn't thrilled about this and only tipped her 100k. She wasn't thrilled about this but I explained she would have gotten more if the effort was there.

After the deed and she left the bellman came to check if all went well. I told him how it went. No play by play but explained she wasn't very good. He was very apologetic and guaranteed me that next time the girl will be better. I gave him 200k but mentioned it would be more had the girl performed better (got to give him both carrot and stick).

So the hotel I am staying at is girl friendly so long as they are supplying. Just get in good with the bellman. They are the connection to the mongering scene.

After all that I went for a walk around and was hassled incessantly by touts. Later came back and a different bellman offered me a girl, this was at about 11:30pm. Said no and told him I already partook in some fun and funnily enough he said he heard that the girl was shit hehe! Looks like I already have a rep here.

On another note, the girl that was delivered to my room had an engagement ring on her. Maybe that's why she wasn't into the extras (or standard as I see it).

Either way a fun filled day. If I go mongering again I will report again.

Cheers,

Catnip

[SmallBird]

Actually I passed by this forum few times, but I have never really found someone said they fuck some vietnamese st for maybe 800k dong.

Price went up greatly recently because the police want a very big portion from the sex service industry.

So 600k 650k 800k now?

Let's take it 800k, about 40 USD, not very cheap for in house fucking. At least much more expensive than Haiphong. 10USD / st, but lousy service. Can't expect too much on 10USD.

But at least far cheaper than outside scammer massage girl.

The location is just south of HCM Tan Son Nhat airport. In walking distance if you like to walk. At least in walking distance for me.

There is a maximart there, use google map, you can find a maximart just south of airport.

Opposite the maximart, around that area, many many korean shops. The shops look like barber shop but with name babershop. But with korean word in front. This is where you can find 800k / hour service.

I think at least 10 shops in the vicinity, maybe even more. But there was a big police operation few months ago. So that's why the price has gone up from 650k to 800k to maybe even more now after the operation.

The price is standard. Their main customer is korean businessmen. They welcome all kind of foreigners. Local goes to some sort of cheap karaoke that we don't know.

Explore. Be an explorer and explore that area. You are can find something out there.

The shops I provide below might not exist anymore, because there so much changes since my last visit to HCMC, but it might give you a clue, and might find out some shops resurrect!

24 Giai Phong St.

37 Thang Long Road.

12A Bavi St.

2/1 Do Son St P. 4 Tan Binh District.

Good luck.

[OralnDoxx]

I need to know about the confirmed hotel girl friendly, I like to take the girl overnight. I did some reaches and I found out the following hotels:

1- Sophia Hotel.

2- Ho Sen 1 Lotus Lake

3- Ho Sen 2 Apollo

4- Indochine Hotel

5- Bongs sen hotel.

6- White Lotus Hotel.

[Goons]

Hey guys,

I need some additional input on my situation. I'll be doing mostly touristy stuff while I'm there which means I'll have a small daypack with my mirrorless camera (concealed and in the bag) , and possibly cash and my travel documents. I may choose to go directly to a place like Benny's or a random massage or hostess club rather than going back to my hotel and leaving my stuff. Is that recommended, does carrying a bag somehow make me into a bigger target?

Also, I've been going over google maps inputting adresses I've found here, with little luck. There are at least three different results that come out for Benny's, one east of the airport, another south of it and a third. Without knowing where these places are exactly myself can I rely on the cab or tuk2x drivers to find them easily from a written address on my notepad?

[WhiteBunny]

I need to know about the confirmed hotel girl friendly, I like to take the girl overnight. I did some reaches and I found out the following hotels:

1- Sophia Hotel.

2- Ho Sen 1 Lotus Lake

3- Ho Sen 2 Apollo

4- Indochine Hotel

5- Bongs sen hotel.

6- White Lotus Hotel.You can try May Hotel in Thi Sap street. Girl friendly, but need to pay 10USD to take her up.

[MutantChicken]

Summary of HCMC cheong spots.

I had a opportunity to take a gentleman on a tour explore most of the hcmc hotspots so I'll use that to formulate a summary of hcmc options in light of the current raids.

D1 Bars.

Still available but very low key, the pretty much ignore you unless you call them over and they don't offer hotel services unless you are "safe". Prices I believe 50-70 St + bf and 100+ bf LT. Over all very non viable unless you don't know better. Looks ok 5-7's. Nothing to say WOW.

Tourist bars.

The same as usual, though I have seen a few cuties, tho mostly older girls, again good for cheaper beers and friendlier girls, the cutie I asked about wanted 70usd St ie about 1.4mill. Fun for chatting and flirting though factoring ST hotel and questionable service again not my idea of value.

Area 1 barbarshops offering sex.

The shops have moved I counted 7 in total, some with 5-6 girls others with 10-12, again ranging in looks 5-7. And occasional 8. Cost 600+200, for me the best option.

Area 2.

This area is also foreigner exposed a total of 10 shops I counted older types more so than area 1 but again avg rnage 5-7 with a few 8's. Cost is 1mill +200. Given that its more expensive but the price difference is smaller ie 400k compared to the 550k or close to 100% difference. Makes this now a viable alternative.

Area 3 little foreigner exposure.

5-6 shops only some with 10-12 girls. These girls look more heavily made up but again the same types of 5-7's. Price 1mil +2-300k ticket.

As with area two it is now a viable option sincew area 1 price increase.

Bia om.

We took a look at two on LHP, we only wanted to look at girls avail for over night, these two places offered 4-5 girls each. Admittedly we came late at 8+pm and so the choice was limited with some 7's but motsly 5-6's. Not sure about the LT costs but I assume it would again bve the market of 100usd ST 1mill. The tips was 200k for girls 100k for mommy and 50-90k for the servcie staff, beers were 40k each, fruit 150k, kareoke 75k, napkins 20k. So again unless you like to sing and drink, that's not ideal.

Bia om 166.

Those in the know are aware it was recently raided so its SOP has definately changed, when asked about girls willing to go overnight was told they cannot help, you need to determine yourself, we came at 10; 30. The girls shown was only 2 and they only 5's. Seems this place has def been spolit and shoudl be avoided.

Benny.

It now looks from the outside like a eatery. The girls all 4-5's, you enter and they write on a piece of paper that the ticket is 120, tipp is 200k. 320k total etc etc so this places has been ruined by foreigners.

DBL.

This area totally shut down, there used to be area adjacent but I didn't get a chance to look.

The other BBBJ place in d1.

This place has quite a few shops with quite a few decent girls, however be aware of the private room scam. Some may call it a scam some might. Basically if you don't specify the shared room, you will get the private room at a 50-60k surcharge ie 100-120k for normal room or 180-200k for private room, and given that the tip matches the ticket, you total price should be 250-300k or upto 400k if you are scammed. Small money for some, or 60% extra for others. Overall a good option if you in the area.

Bo ke area. Also totally closed down.

Rest of the city.

For those in the know and those with transport, its possible to find massages with the BJ option for 100 ticket + 200-300 for the BJ. Or hot tocs with BJ for 150-250k inclusive of ticket and tip. The looks of these girls are non uniform, you need luck to find the gem

[LuvAsianTang]

"Area 1 barbarshops offering sex.

The shops have moved I counted 7 in total, some with 5-6 girls others with 10-12, again ranging in looks 5-7. And occasional 8. Cost 600+200, for me the best option."

I wasn't aware of these barber shops offering FS in area 1, would you like to share please?

Thanks in advance, LAT

[FloridaMike]

I was in Ho Chi Minh City for a few days. Only had brief moments where I could get out and look for some simple action. So, a block or two from the market in D1, on a medium busy street there was what appeared to be a hair and massage place. There were about 10 girls seated inside by the door but clearly visible from the sidewalk. All were dressed like bar girls from Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. So, I figured this must be a place for some fun. I went in (around 4pm) and all the girls jumped up and greeted me. The mamasan came over and showed me a menu that included legitimate hair and massage services. I chose a one hour oil massage and shampoo thinking this would be my best bet and it was 170K or 240K (I can't remember). The mamasan snapped at one of the girls and she jumped up and took me back. So they started by washing my hair and then put some kind of cucumber facial thing on my face. I was not in a private room but it was a dark area with sinks like a beauty shop. Then they took me to a room and told me to change into some shorts and a short robe. Then took me to a massage room with 6 or 8 tables next to each other. No curtains. Girl commenced to giving me a decent oil and Thai massage. She finished and offered nothing extra and no happy ending. But she said I had to tip her at least 200,000 VND! Perhaps I should have gone for the VIP treatment the mamasan offered me but it was 2 hours long and 300K +, and I didn't have a spare two hours. So even though the girls were dressed like hookers and looked like working girls. It was a big zero. Perhaps I didn't know what I was doing.

So I tried again the next day around 1pm on the same street but a block up. Another hair place that offered massages, and had a frosted glass window / door and seemed very quiet. As opposed to the place I mentioned above. So, I thought, this place looks like it is trying to operate under the radar. Let me try it. Went in, cute girl waited on me. The menu was on the front counter and offered the normal massages, (oil, thai, etc). I chose the one hour oil massage again. Took me back to a room with lockers and told me to change into shorts and a short robe. I did and they took me to a private room (2 massage tables but I was the only one in there. And they shut the door different girl came in for the massage. Got a massage and then about 50 minutes later, she stopped massaging and said it is over. I said,"that's all?" and she replied yes. I then said, I can't get any more? I can't get anything else? And she replied no that is all. She didn't even demand a tip like the first girl.

Later I walked by another place like the first place where the girls were dressed like bar girls but was on my way to meet a friend. There were two guys outside who said,"hey you want a foot massage?" I said no and kept walking. But thinking back maybe they were touts. Also, there was a guy on a street corner handing out legitimate looking flyers for one of the hotel Spas. Maybe I should have tried that place. I also saw some nail salons that offered massages that were down some narrow alleys. But I didn't have time to check these places out. So after reading that all massage places offer happy endings as standard procedure, I am here to say that did not happen.

[TomSf]

I was in Ho Chi Minh City for a few days. Only had brief moments where I could get out and look for some simple action. So, a block or two from the market in D1, on a medium busy street there was what appeared to be a hair and massage place. There were about 10 girls seated inside by the door but clearly visible from the sidewalk. All were dressed like bar girls from Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. So, I figured this must be a place for some fun. I went in (around 4pm) and all the girls jumped up and greeted me. The mamasan came over and showed me a menu that included legitimate hair and massage services. I chose a one hour oil massage and shampoo thinking this would be my best bet and it was 170K or 240K (I can't remember)...Florida Mike,

Hope you did not give the 200,000 tip for nothing. You should have tipped $2 USD in dong. Don't let people like this rip you off just because your from out of town. People can't tell you what to tip. Why should she give you a BJ if you pay her anyway. Someone once said if it seems like something is going on it is not in Vietnam.

[Dragonfly22]

Fla Mike, the old saying goes "if it looks like something is going on, chances are, it's not"! On some rare occasions I have gotten a HJ at some of these legit places but ONLY after I have been there a few times. They take you to a secluded massage room usually on the 3rd or 4th floor. You can usually forget the places handing out flyers as they are tourist traps and usually nothing going on there.

[L L T0]

Those places like the ones you are saying are only beauty shops, and you will not get nothing unless you go there for a few times, and make friends with one of the girls. They use to dress this girls like that to attract tourists, but that is as much as you will see there. But it will be as expensive as if you went to a Hotel Spa, where you can get your HJ / HE as a standard procedure without so many visits and in the same D1. Of course the fee for the massage on the hotel spa will run between 200,000 VND to 350,000 and tip varies between 300,000-500 000 VND, but the good thing is that if you don't like the treatment on the hotel, don't tip, and just get out. They will be mad, but next time don't ask for that girl. They have to work hard and nice to get a tip.

Good luck there.


I was in Ho Chi Minh City for a few days. Only had brief moments where I could get out and look for some simple action. So, a block or two from the market in D1, on a medium busy street there was what appeared to be a hair and massage place. There were about 10 girls seated inside by the door but clearly visible from the sidewalk. All were dressed like bar girls from Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. So, I figured this must be a place for some fun. I went in (around 4pm) and all the girls jumped up and greeted me. The mamasan came over and showed me a menu that included legitimate hair and massage services. I chose a one hour oil massage and shampoo thinking this would be my best bet and it was 170K or 240K (I can't remember). The mamasan snapped at one of the girls and she jumped up and took me back. So they started by washing my hair and then put some kind of cucumber facial thing on my face. I was not in a private room but it was a dark area with sinks like a beauty shop. Then they took me to a room and told me to change into some shorts and a short robe. Then took me to a massage room with 6 or 8 tables next to each other. No curtains. Girl commenced to giving me a decent oil and Thai massage. She finished and offered nothing extra and no happy ending. But she said I had to tip her at least 200, 000 VND! Perhaps I should have gone for the VIP treatment the mamasan offered me but it was 2 hours long and 300K +, and I didn't have a spare two hours. So even though the girls were dressed like hookers and looked like working girls...

[TomSf]

Team,

I want to do a Hong kong and Vietnam trip. As some of you may know the prices of airfare are much cheaper if you book while in asia compared to booking in the states. I need to be flexible in Asia so if I need to rush back to states for work I can. My plan is to fly to Hong kong first. In China tickets must have a departure date so I can't by one way. If I buy Hong kong to viet from states it will cost more.

Any advice on which airline is most flexible with frequent trips back and forth from Hong kong to Saigon?

Also, for cell phone I got turned onto Viber app which is free calls international. Anyone use it in Saigon?

[OzzieSuds]

Team,

I want to do a Hong kong and Vietnam trip. As some of you may know the prices of airfare are much cheaper if you book while in asia compared to booking in the states. I need to be flexible in Asia so if I need to rush back to states for work I can. My plan is to fly to Hong kong first. In China tickets must have a departure date so I can't by one way. If I buy Hong kong to viet from states it will cost more.

Any advice on which airline is most flexible with frequent trips back and forth from Hong kong to Saigon?

Also, for cell phone I got turned onto Viber app which is free calls international. Anyone use it in Saigon?Hong will be your worst option because of CX dominance. Try Chinese cities like Shanghai and Guangxhou serviced by asian airlines. Or Bangkok. If you are in Shanghai then you must try the 'red rope' massage at the Shanghai hotel. Search in here for it. As for cell phones I just buy local sims.

[Snake304]

Hello,

This will be my 6 or 7th time in HCMC during April to May. I will be chilling here for 1 month. I won't monger as much because of my gf, but I would like to monger once in a while. Hehe. Anybody want to go mongering together in the discos or bia oms? I will rent a motorbike. I will be there in HCMC from April 15 to May 15, 2014. PM if you want to chill. I know some locations but not a lot.

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[Moon Shadow10]

I am a recent subscriber but have lived in HCMC for 10 years and Hanoi for 5.

I have been looking through the posts and have only seen one reference to one of my favourite bars in D1 and none on the other so I thought that I would share these.

The first is Pulse which is located on Thi Sac (I think No. 11) next to a Japanese place and down from Apo. And it rocks. You can choose your own tunes from YouTube and volume is not a problem. Pool table on the ground floor and comfy BJ rooms upstairs. I have seen BJs done on the ground floor too if that is your thing. I prefer a little more privacy. The girls are generally great and not too pushy. Take outs available. Standard bar fine.

Great music and "smoker" friendly if that is what you like. I have also met some of the most interesting guys in the bar which is sometimes a good break from mongering.

The second is Snow Bar on Dong Du opposite 2 Sisters and next to an Italian restaurant called "Ciao Bella". A bit classier than Pulse but same deal except the pool table is upstairs in a large room which is good for groups. Like Pulse, the gals are friendly and not too pushy so you can sit on 1 beer all night if you are not in the mood.

Hope this helps and have fun. BTW, I have no financial interest in either place!

[FriendlyPlanet]

Team,

I want to do a Hong kong and Vietnam trip. As some of you may know the prices of airfare are much cheaper if you book while in asia compared to booking in the states. I need to be flexible in Asia so if I need to rush back to states for work I can. My plan is to fly to Hong kong first. In China tickets must have a departure date so I can't by one way. If I buy Hong kong to viet from states it will cost more.

Any advice on which airline is most flexible with frequent trips back and forth from Hong kong to Saigon?

Also, for cell phone I got turned onto Viber app which is free calls international. Anyone use it in Saigon?Just search "flights from Hong kong to ho chi minh city" in google. 4-7 non-stops a day, on CX, Vietnam, and United. So probably wouldn't recommend this routing, unless you can add on the HCMC leg to an existing ticket (eg, USA. HKG. SGN).

Viber uses data to place VOIP calls, so it will work anywhere. But of course, that means you need data locally, so if you want to use your smartphone, buy a local SIM- less than $10 with data.

[TomSf]

Just search "flights from Hong kong to ho chi minh city" in google. 4-7 non-stops a day, on CX, Vietnam, and United. So probably wouldn't recommend this routing, unless you can add on the HCMC leg to an existing ticket (eg, USA. HKG. SGN).

Viber uses data to place VOIP calls, so it will work anywhere. But of course, that means you need data locally, so if you want to use your smartphone, buy a local SIM- less than $10 with data.Thank you Friendly Planet! I actually just joined viber. I am curious if when I put a sim card in my phone if when people call me from the states they will know I am in China? I doubt international ring tone. I want to try to push my China trip to Vietnam. Mainly depend on how busy my work gets in the states. I will say to make viber work you need you internet on. With no sim card your roaming fees would be huge.

[Nullnull]

Team,

Any advice on which airline is most flexible with frequent trips back and forth from Hong kong to Saigon?

Also, for cell phone I got turned onto Viber app which is free calls international. Anyone use it in Saigon?You can save a few bucks by flying with Jetstar or Tigerair. If you don't want to lose much time I would nevertheless recommend Vietnam Airlines with at least three direct flights a day.

Viber is very popular with Vietnamese girls. They use Zalo App as well but this is a a bit of a mess if you don't speak Vietnamese.

[TomSf]

You can save a few bucks by flying with Jetstar or Tigerair. If you don't want to lose much time I would nevertheless recommend Vietnam Airlines with at least three direct flights a day.

Viber is very popular with Vietnamese girls. They use Zalo App as well but this is a a bit of a mess if you don't speak Vietnamese.Good to know. Thank you sir!

[FruitNinja]

It's still there. The one down the street is apparently closed. The cost is 150, 000 entrance and 200, oo for the girl. I don'why usually get off on just a BJ but the girls there always seem to get me off. If you have a little fun with them they will always go the extra mile.

[Venice2]

I went to Saigon a while ago, thought would share general info since I made an acct to ask some info.

- Ben nys. 90 (something) across the bridge. 350k everything, tips if you want. BBBJ, touching, etc.

- Many girl friendly hotels. Any 1-3 star hotel with less than 50 rooms are generally okay, after 9pm 200k tip usually required. If by chance it isn't (all the ones I was in was okay) , use a short term hotel for 10-20 USD.

- Around district 1 lots of places to find sex. Go out after 8pm and walk around. The backpacker area to the west of Benh Thanh market is good, Hai Ba Trung near the river (close to the clubs) is good. Just go check everything out. You'll get propositioned a lot, or look for guys standing in street corners approaching foreigners. They will have connections. I had a few good experiences there; tell the guys you'll tip them a little (100k for me) and they'll go out of the way to find you something good.

- The bars and clubs etc arund d1 are trickier. No guarantee you find what you want, and once you go in you've already invested into door fees, etc. The hostess bars in Hai Ba Trung are hit and miss. Negotiate, negotiate, and make sure they have what you are looking for. I left disappointed from a few venues. But I have a few good contacts from the street louts, those worked out much better for me. In retrospect, I followed a few street louts into dark corners and other shady places. Probably not good for my long term health, considering many of these guys are gangsters. Oh prices are 60 USD for FS, and they quote 150 now for all night. They quote in USD but you should pay with dong; because they equate 1mil dong = 50 USD, but 50 USD converts to around 10% more than 1mil ding. I don't recommend the all night thing and never went for it, after sex you have nothing to talk about; its boring. But each to his own.

- Quality is good I guess. Girls are 6-7, but in makeup look like 8-9. Keep in mind theres lots of makeup and many of these girls woult not catch my attntion in daytime.

- I went all out and tipped my lout 500k one time and he found me the hottest girl, a 10, 2 mil for short time. It was good, and I tipped her 500k. 3 mil total, but She was the hottest girl I've seen. I way overpaid. But it was an experience.

Sry for the typos. On my phone, cheers!

[Geneva Guy]

Hi all,

Just got back from my trip to Hanoi and HCMC. Found 2 girls on the VNlove website (google it). Hanoi girl was about 40, divorced, and really a lot of fun. Taught her how tto take cum into her mouth (had not done that). She toured me around the city on her motobike. Very fun.

Second girl was a 26 year old in HCMC. This girl is tiny. 44 kg and maybe 5ft 1in. Just the way I like them. Not a lot of sex experience (1 BF) but very willing to learn from a white guy (at least in Asia its still OK to be a white guy, LOL). Spent most of the day yesterday in bed, after my 3rd cum into her pussy she said "honey, can we do it one more time." Yikes. Cialis don't fail me now! Fortunately she had just finished her menstrual period so didn't have to give her a "morning after pill." By the way, you can buy oral contraceptives in VN without a prescription and thus, make your "own" morning after pill if you need to (look up the ingredient in Plan B and ask the pharmacist for help in picking the right thing).

Both had very hairy pussies but were very clean.

These are regular girls. Gave them each a gift I brought from the USA (perfume and a simple necklace). My advice. If you surf the "love" sites, you can find gems.

Overall a great trip to VN. The Vn girls, being so small, are just right for me.

Next, back to Singapore. And my filipina GF.

Enjoy,

GG

[B Bardill]

Just a quick question for you guys in HCMC. Is there a good website to meet girls for sex in HCMC area. I'll be back in July and looking to hook up with a few girls while I am there and can get away from the wife. I walk a lot and she has no idea where I go and doesn't care because she knows I can make my way around town. Little does she know that I walk only to the bus stop and then go by bus to different areas. Visited quite a few hot tocs that way. I stay in District 10 when I am there have been picked up a few times on Su Van Hanh on the east side of 3/2 street.

Thanks for any info.

[SteelBaton]

Having read the forum, I wasn't expecting much in HCM city last week, but thanks to some very helpful information from senior members I had a great time.

Following recommendations, on a Sunday night around 7:30 pm I took a taxi up to the Tan Binh district and found the Four Seasons massage shop on Ba Vi. It was a little early and I was a little hungry so after noting its location I went and had a little dinner then walked along Hau Giang Street where I was approached by a young woman who handed me a card that looked like a massage place. I asked about boom-boom and she said yes. I used my smart phone and google translate to tell her I was only interested in Full Sex with a 18-22 yr old slim girl, and not a MILF. She said no problem! She said she would pay for the taxi. Seemed safe and had a good vibe so we got in the taxi and drove for 5 minutes.

I am pretty sure she took me to the New Moon barbershop on Cuu Long street, but there were no signs I could read. I sat down and they brought in a nice line-up of girls, most 7-8's. Most under 25 and most do-able. But I asked again for my 18-22 yr old and they fished a smiling girl out of the back who was perfect.

We went upstairs to a nice clean room, showered and did the usual. She was very clean, sweet, great lips, nice tits. Great blowjob, DFK. All in all a great fuck. Price 800 K dong ($40) . I got her phone number and WeChat details. (WeChat now has an in app translation function so you can easily communicate via text messages with a girl - very very helpful both there and in China). I have the place's card if any seniors would like the address and phone details, please PM me.

After that I made my way to 37 Thang Long where there were only 3 girls, none to my taste. I returned to Four Seasons where the mama there brought out a line up of 5-6 girls. One or two were close, but I was getting picky. She pulled out her phone and started showing me pictures probably 35 girls. I picked another one or two who arrived by motorbike. I took one of them upstairs.

She was a jaded pro and not particularly pleasant - one of those that wants to control every little thing from how to touch her ass to what position she will screw in. I should have gone with one of the girls who were definitely more interested in the work. Anyway an ok fuck but far from great. I called it a night.

The next day I convinced the first girl to come to a 3 star hotel in District 1 near the 4 star that I was staying at. Getting her to leave work and take a taxi to see me was more expensive than I would have liked - $70, but we again had a great time and the chemistry was really nice. The bell boy, Vic, from the hotel was totally keen to bring me some more girls. He got my number and called me multiple times offering SYTs. But I was sated and didn't partake. On my next trip I might see what he could deliver. He was very motivated and had the feel of a guy would could get shit done.

Anyway for all my fears and the reports of no takeout action, difficult to find girls, only 5's or 6's, I was very happy with the few days there and will return. I reckon the bell guy could provide something interesting and will definitely return to the place on Cuu Long Street. And, I must say the Vietnamese girls give a very nice GFE and they speak a lot more English than your usually find in China or certainly Burma. And have very nice bodies!

P.S. If anyone know of an iPhone app that I can use to blur the faces, I can post some pictures. I just don't have the time to get them on to Photoshop and post right now.

[Willyboy]

I went to Saigon a while ago, thought would share general info since I made an acct to ask some info.

- Ben nys. 90 (something) across the bridge. 350k everything, tips if you want. BBBJ, touching, etc.

- Many girl friendly hotels. Any 1-3 star hotel with less than 50 rooms are generally okay, after 9pm 200k tip usually required. If by chance it isn't (all the ones I was in was okay) , use a short term hotel for 10-20 USD.

- Around district 1 lots of places to find sex. Go out after 8pm and walk around. The backpacker area to the west of Benh Thanh market is good, Hai Ba Trung near the river (close to the clubs) is good. Just go check everything out. You'll get propositioned a lot, or look for guys standing in street corners approaching foreigners. They will have connections. I had a few good experiences there; tell the guys you'll tip them a little (100k for me) and they'll go out of the way to find you something good.

- The bars and clubs etc arund d1 are trickier. No guarantee you find what you want, and once you go in you've already invested into door fees, etc. The hostess bars in Hai Ba Trung are hit and miss. Negotiate, negotiate, and make sure they have what you are looking for. I left disappointed from a few venues. But I have a few good contacts from the street louts, those worked out much better for me. In retrospect, I followed a few street louts into dark corners and other shady places. Probably not good for my long term health, considering many of these guys are gangsters. Oh prices are 60 USD for FS, and they quote 150 now for all night. They quote in USD but you should pay with dong; because they equate 1mil dong = 50 USD, but 50 USD converts to around 10% more than 1mil ding. I don't recommend the all night thing and never went for it, after sex you have nothing to talk about; its boring. But each to his own.

- Quality is good I guess. Girls are 6-7, but in makeup look like 8-9. Keep in mind theres lots of makeup and many of these girls woult not catch my attntion in daytime.

- I went all out and tipped my lout 500k one time and he found me the hottest girl, a 10, 2 mil for short time. It was good, and I tipped her 500k. 3 mil total, but She was the hottest girl I've seen. I way overpaid. But it was an experience.

Sry for the typos. On my phone, cheers!Very good that every person f. Ck his on money. It was only 3 months salary from one hotel worker. Try FKK Germany. It will by better price.

[SteelBaton]

What are you trying to say Willyboy?! That post was a bunch of gobbledygook (I do not know the German word for that but I bet it has more syllables).


Very good that every person f. Ck his on money. It was only 3 months salary from one hotel worker. Try FKK Germany. It will by better price.

[Gajith]

My yesterday's girl was 22 (as per her I'd) so clean, we bath together she cleaned me up. Did a nice BBBJ and offered bare back; sorry a big NO. She almost had a flat boobs but speak English and moan a little. I tipped her just 100 k only. I worried because no one is changing my backup currency which is sing dollars. All there services I got for 600 k. So I am wondering why people raising the price since we have enough availability?

[Deori]

Hi guys,

Just a quick question. I'm making my second trip to Thailand this summer. In addition, I plan on hitting HCMC for about a week as well. I really didn't pay for girls much in Thailand on my first trip as I had a really easy time getting laid for free. I'm in my late 20's, fit, and a "hansome man". So I'm just wondering if anyone can let me know if I can hope for a similar situation in HCMC? Do many girls in their 20's speak even rough English? Is there shame in being seen with a foreigner? Just general tips like that. I've been reading the forum, but haven't seen much in the way of hitting up the civilians. Hopefully I don't get flamed for this post, just hoping for a rough sketch so I'm not too disappointed. There's always the dating sites if I'm not likely to meet them on the streets or in the bars. Anything constructive appreciated.

Thanks guys!

[TomSf]

Hi guys,

Just a quick question. I'm making my second trip to Thailand this summer. In addition, I plan on hitting HCMC for about a week as well. I really didn't pay for girls much in Thailand on my first trip as I had a really easy time getting laid for free. I'm in my late 20's, fit, and a "hansome man". So I'm just wondering if anyone can let me know if I can hope for a similar situation in HCMC? Do many girls in their 20's speak even rough English? Is there shame in being seen with a foreigner? Just general tips like that. I've been reading the forum, but haven't seen much in the way of hitting up the civilians. Hopefully I don't get flamed for this post, just hoping for a rough sketch so I'm not too disappointed. There's always the dating sites if I'm not likely to meet them on the streets or in the bars. Anything constructive appreciated.

Thanks guys!Deori,

You know the part of your story about Thailand that is missing is where did you find these Thai girls you banged for free? Are these bar girls or streetwalkers in Pattaya? A lot of those girls do not speak english and or are just to embarrassed to ask for money afterward because they are embarrassed. It is just expected you give them money. I was in Pattaya and met the most beautiful Thai girl I ever seen years ago on beach street in Pattaya. I started a conversation with her we spend the day together sex ext. She never asked me for any money but I gave it to her anyway and said it for her dinner she took it. It is just kinda expected. When I asked her what she was doing in Thailand she said vacation and she had no tattoos. But Thais don't have money and I doubt she really was there on vacation. By the way I used a condom but she did not have any problem if I did not use one. The point of my story is you always pay in Thailand unless she is working at a real job that you meet her at like a clothes store ect. In Vietnam I don't know?

[OzzieSuds]

Hi guys,

Just a quick question. I'm making my second trip to Thailand this summer. In addition, I plan on hitting HCMC for about a week as well. I really didn't pay for girls much in Thailand on my first trip as I had a really easy time getting laid for free. I'm in my late 20's, fit, and a "hansome man". So I'm just wondering if anyone can let me know if I can hope for a similar situation in HCMC? Do many girls in their 20's speak even rough English? Is there shame in being seen with a foreigner? Just general tips like that. I've been reading the forum, but haven't seen much in the way of hitting up the civilians. Hopefully I don't get flamed for this post, just hoping for a rough sketch so I'm not too disappointed. There's always the dating sites if I'm not likely to meet them on the streets or in the bars. Anything constructive appreciated.

Thanks guys!Yes you can get so-called freebies in HCMC but as Tom SF says they are never actually free. There are plenty of SYT around D1 who have a little english and are happy to practice it in nicer surroundings than their digs. Some understand their side of the bargain and some don't.

[Deori]

Tom & Ozzie,

My experience in Thailand was that it was really easy to get "girlfriended" up quickly. I only paid for girls if I wanted to get a quick lay and then have them go away. Otherwise they would hang around for days. One girl I spent about two weeks with in Pattaya had a sponsor out of the country so her bills were being taken care of. I could not get rid of this chick, but she was really cute, had her own motorbike, excellent English, and just fun to hang out with. Offering her money would have been offensive by the end of it in my opinion. We've kept in touch for years on Facebook and she's never even come close to asking me for a dime. Another girl I met in Phuket told me she was on "vacation" from BKK, working in a bar that her friend owned, that she just worked in the bar to help with vacation expenses, and was under no obligation to go with customers. Could be BS, but who knows? Again, excellent English. She left the bar with me after a few games of pool, no barfine, insisted on chipping in on drinks and stuff with me, we slept together a few times over the next few days and again, I eventually ended up dodging her because I wanted to see other chicas. On my way from Phuket back to BKK, I stayed in a bar next to my room all night because I had to catch an early flight out and knew I would oversleep if I didn't stay up. Played pool, drank quite a bit, and early in the morning just asked one of the girls if she wanted to come to my room. She said yes. Shower, vanilla sex, then after I had some money in my hand to give her when she smiled, kissed me, and walked out the door empty-handed. I could go on with more stories.

Of course, if I grabbed a streetwalker, I knew that they were to be paid and negotiated on the spot like you would anywhere in the world. I met a few girls at the mall or similar places, but yes, most were bar girls. A lot of them went with me when their bars were closing anyways. No customer that night, why not come spend the night with me? I paid a few of them, and I generally paid for most if not all food and drinks with all of them, but that's exactly what I would do here in the States as well. I understand that you're always paying on some level, but I don't feel like I "cheated" any of these girls or anything. And that's without me even scouring the dating sites! I'm sure there are plenty of freebies there. I'm not trying to say I'm Don Juan, but keep in mind that I'm a good looking guy in the age range that they would date with no money involved. I'm not in Thailand because I can't get laid back home. I sleep with good looking American girls in their twenties, why not Thai? If I hung around the bar with these girls, joked around, bought them a drink, they were often happy to hang out with me in their off time. I joke that I was "kidnapped" by Thai girls on several occasions, with them pulling me into a cab with them or having me hop on one of their bikes and taking me to the clubs with them. Some of these girls took me back to their own apartments to crash afterwards.

No offense intended to anyone on here and I'm not trying to sound arrogant, but they're still just girls and I think a lot of them are happy to have a fun roll in the hay with a guy their own age. I was just wondering if I could expect anything similar in HCMC or if the girls there would likely be more reserved. I do appreciate the responses guys!

[Wendella]

No offense intended to anyone on here and I'm not trying to sound arrogant, but they're still just girls and I think a lot of them are happy to have a fun roll in the hay with a guy their own age. I was just wondering if I could expect anything similar in HCMC or if the girls there would likely be more reserved. I do appreciate the responses guys!Dating sites like vietnamcupid and vietsingles, and there's more and I don't use them because like you I'm young, strong and handsome and I don't need them (ok that's a total lie, but I don't use them), but the point is that I'm not that familiar with which ones are good these days, my info is 2nd hand and dated. (and I didn't use them even then) Tagged is one more website. A guy I know uses these, I'll ask for an update. Also there's some smart phone apps. Tinder? There's more. Actually there is a guy posting here now called Sidthip who mentioned one app he was using and made some connections through. And like you said, malls and shopping centers are some places. Personally I like to hang out in the lingerie dept for the good part of a day, near the dressing room, see what comes my way. OK not really. But obviously you know how to do the pickup thing, it would be the same kinds of places here. From what I've heard, it's pretty good here for that approach. Though financial treats are kind of expected here, unless the girl is rich. I've watched a very young and very handsome guy (that's one guy) get totally blown off repeatedly for refusing to recognize this. But if it's top priority for you to be getting it free, then you're in totally the wrong place for help with that, and probably the wrong country too.

[Geneva Guy]

Dating sites like vietnamcupid and vietsingles, and there's more and I don't use them because like you I'm young, strong and handsome and I don't need them (ok that's a total lie, but I don't use them), but the point is that I'm not that familiar with which ones are good these days, my info is 2nd hand and dated. (and I didn't use them even then) Tagged is one more website. A guy I know uses these, I'll ask for an update. Also there's some smart phone apps. Tinder? There's more. Actually there is a guy posting here now called Sidthip who mentioned one app he was using and made some connections through. And like you said, malls and shopping centers are some places. Personally I like to hang out in the lingerie dept for the good part of a day, near the dressing room, see what comes my way. OK not really. But obviously you know how to do the pickup thing, it would be the same kinds of places here. From what I've heard, it's pretty good here for that approach. Though financial treats are kind of expected here, unless the girl is rich. I've watched a very young and very handsome guy (that's one guy) get totally blown off repeatedly for refusing to recognize this. But if it's top priority for you to be getting it free, then you're in totally the wrong place for help with that, and probably the wrong country too.I'll weigh in on this. Was in Hanoi and HCMC in April 2014. Used tagged and found a nice gal in Hanoi, no "gifts" needed and had a number of days of fun. IN HCMC, used vietnameselove dating site, found a sweet (and tiny) 26 year old who only wanted a "statue of liberty" from the USA. Now I'm an older big guy but I do try to treat the ladies politely and kindly. Both these girls wanted more than just a quick bang, which was OK by me, I prefer sex with some affection. I have found tagged to be excellent, but if you are just looking for a hookup, it may not be the site to use. Please don't' email me for phone numbers. These are not P4 P girls.

GG.

[AmericanThief]

Just a quick question for you guys in HCMC. Is there a good website to meet girls for sex in HCMC area.
Thanks for any info.www.tendertours.com

They're new and limited selection, but I tried a couple and was alright. Girls looked like their photo, BBBJ, all positions. Pretty convenient as I just had a feeling and asked her to come within the hour.

She did.

[FunkySexy]

Dear friends,

We are a close knit of friends, who have decided to celebrate a mate's Bachelors in HCMC!

I in all humbleness reach out to seniors / experts of HCMC to guide / assist / help in planning on making the celebrations fun and memorable for us!

Now whilst we plan on being there somewhere towards the 2nd week of Sep, we are looking at having a few ladies be with us for a two days or so (full time) so that the fun never ends. LOL.

Was reading on a few reports suggesting that uni students or lovely next door house wife, are looking to spend a few days of holiday with of course exchange of the benefits!

I would be highly obliged and appreciative if you friends can suggest something on the same lines above or alternatively something you feel that would be worth while.

Of course, we are there for fun which is the obvious bit, but also if anything worth sightseeing, touristy things to do, I am all ears.

Thanking you in advance and safe & happy mongering to all!

FunkySexy

[Mik Hcmc]

Book a ticket to Phils, TLD, Indonesia if you want to have fun like you mentioned.

Or head down to Vung Tau and hit up the hundreds of bars.


Dear friends,

We are a close knit of friends, who have decided to celebrate a mate's Bachelors in HCMC!

I in all humbleness reach out to seniors / experts of HCMC to guide / assist / help in planning on making the celebrations fun and memorable for us!

Now whilst we plan on being there somewhere towards the 2nd week of Sep, we are looking at having a few ladies be with us for a two days or so (full time) so that the fun never ends. LOL.

Was reading on a few reports suggesting that uni students or lovely next door house wife, are looking to spend a few days of holiday with of course exchange of the benefits!

I would be highly obliged and appreciative if you friends can suggest something on the same lines above or alternatively something you feel that would be worth while.

Of course, we are there for fun which is the obvious bit, but also if anything worth sightseeing, touristy things to do, I am all ears.

Thanking you in advance and safe & happy mongering to all!

FunkySexy

[Traveler1234]

Dear friends,

We are a close knit of friends, who have decided to celebrate a mate's Bachelors in HCMC!
Now whilst we plan on being there somewhere towards the 2nd week of Sep, we are looking at having a few ladies be with us for a two days or so (full time) so that the fun never ends. LOL.
Change your itinerary. Vietnam is not the place to go for bachelors party. PM for details / suggestions.

[Gajith]

Dear friends,

We are a close knit of friends, who have decided to celebrate a mate's Bachelors in HCMC!

I in all humbleness reach out to seniors / experts of HCMC to guide / assist / help in planning on making the celebrations fun and memorable for us!

Now whilst we plan on being there somewhere towards the 2nd week of Sep, we are looking at having a few ladies be with us for a two days or so (full time) so that the fun never ends. LOL.

Was reading on a few reports suggesting that uni students or lovely next door house wife, are looking to spend a few days of holiday with of course exchange of the benefits!

I would be highly obliged and appreciative if you friends can suggest something on the same lines above or alternatively something you feel that would be worth while.

Of course, we are there for fun which is the obvious bit, but also if anything worth sightseeing, touristy things to do, I am all ears.

Thanking you in advance and safe & happy mongering to all!

FunkySexyHCMC is much easier than Hanoi for FS, 120 $ for a full time. Nice friendly girls. Can get near to Honsen Hotel & apocalypse.

[FunkySexy]

Dear Gajith, Traveler 1234 & Mik Hcmc,

Thanks A Million, for replying to my post.

Traveler 1234, I am not a paid member as yet, however that should change in the next 48 hours, and will PM you post.

Mik Hcmc, thanks for the suggestion of V Tau, that is an excellent idea!

I will trouble you via PM once my paid subscription gets activated.

Regards,

FunkySexy


Book a ticket to Phils, TLD, Indonesia if you want to have fun like you mentioned.

Or head down to Vung Tau and hit up the hundreds of bars.

[AmericanThief]

HCMC is much easier than Hanoi for FS, 120 $ for a full time. Nice friendly girls. Can get near to Honsen Hotel & apocalypse.Why do you pay more than twice the normal rate? $120 is insane. This is Vietnam. $40-$60 District 1 prices, much less the farther out you go.

$120 what a rip.

[EastonWest]

I was hanging out in the backpacking tourist area, around that neon bull. A woman of about 35 pulled up next to me on her scooter and said, "you wan fuck?" I hadn't been with any type of sex worker yet, and was taken back by the question. I had also failed to impress a cute waitress earlier in the evening. I said OK with out hesitation and got on her scooter. I said lets go to a hotel. For $40 plus $10 for the room we went at it in many positions after she'd showered.

She had shown me the path I would take in Asia.

[D Cups]

, thanks for the suggestion of V Tau, that is an excellent idea!FS, if you go to Vung Tau I highly recommend the massage parlor right across the street from the Vina Express terminal. I saw the prettiest and sexiest Vietnamese girls I have ever seen in 10 trips to VN there. A bit expensive but not too bad. Also there are some nice bar fines in Du Duk Inn but don't get Lucy. She turned out to be a runner.

[FunkySexy]

Dear DCups.

Thank you for sharing and shall definitely hit this place once we are there!

FunkySexy


FS, if you go to Vung Tau I highly recommend the massage parlor right across the street from the Vina Express terminal. I saw the prettiest and sexiest Vietnamese girls I have ever seen in 10 trips to VN there. .

[Gajith]

Why do you pay more than twice the normal rate? $120 is insane. This is Vietnam. $40-$60 District 1 prices, much less the farther out you go.

$120 what a rip.I didn't pay Sir, That price was told by the girls upon my inquiry about LT. I just paid 600 K for ST (agreement was till I come: P).

[Member #4566]

i chose to stay in cholon, district 5, because i wanted to get a more authentic feeling from saigon than i might have gotten had i stayed in district 1. my hotel has a massage parlor which i tested soon after checking in. it was not yet 10 am. the masseuse was a really pretty young girl of about 20 years with a good figure. her massage skills were average and after the flipover, she offered a hand job but nothing else. i think we settled on 150000 dong. she allowed me to unbuckle her bra and i had free range there. this girl was really wondrous. her tits were arrogantly flying in the air. small nipples that never suckled a baby. a really sweet pretty girl. unfortunately her hand job skills were not that good and after a while we stopped. but anyway, i had a wonderful time being intimate with this glorious example of viet femininity.

next i cruised the neighborhood to see what else was stirring. within a short walk, i encountered perhaps 10 massage outlets. although untested, i am sure that massage was not the only thing on the menu. i walked into one place and was taken upstairs to a gritty looking massage table. the masseuse was reluctant to change the sheet on the table but did so anyway. she was 30, pretty looking and was pleasantly endowed. again, the massage was less than average and when it came time to negotiate for the add ons she offered hand job and boomboom. i think full sex was 1 mill and i forget what the hj was. i wasn't interested in either so i did not test the price with a counter offer. i wanted a bj and i forget what price she started at but i offered 250000 and would not go up despite her appeals to the little head to change the mind of the big head. so we settled on the 250 figure. her bj skills were awful. here is a 30 year old sex worker who could not give a decent blowjob. we went at it for a good 15 minutes and i finally gave up. we continued a hj and her skills her were poor if not brutal. contrast this with the experiences i have had with hj's in the koreana hotel in seoul, or the canton hotel in guangzhou, or the several ones i had in hong kong massage outlets. in those places, the girls played my dick like it was a musical instrument and they were performing a symphony. it was almost as good as intercourse. but not this time in cholon.

later in the afternoon, not more than 2 blocks from my hotel, i saw a hot toc whose neon sign invited me in. upstairs were a half dozen woman in revealing evening gowns. more girls were in the back. a real bordello in saigon. the wikisexpedia denies that there are any. they started at 1. 3 mill but before i could reply, the price was lowered to a million. i wasn't really interested but only on patrol. several of the girls were really pretty and better than anything i have had in a while. in any event, i must have committed some procedural peccadillo by not first checking in with the concierge on the ground floor because somebody arrived and told me to go. here i am with millions in the local currency in my pocket and told to leave a place filled with working girls. gives new life to the expression, "you could not get laid in a wh*rehouse with a fistful of franklins. " well i just had my dick brutalized in a blowjob cum handjob and i wasn't in the market anyway. sour grapes not withstanding i left without a whimper.

later that evening around 8 pm, as i was making another circuit of the neighborhood, i ran into several streetwalkers. they were hawking their wares close to the entrance of the windsor hotel. the presence of this large multi-star hotel perhaps explains the presence of so many pleasure outlets in the neighborhood. be that at as it may, these girls were offering their services for 500000. a couple of them were really pretty. and they spoke reasonably well business english. i am going to stay away from that kind of action in saigon. to me it seems risky.

i am looking for that freelance market which someone on this forum characterized as "huge. " that and a decent blowjob.

[Member #4566]

i was aimlessly walking the streets when i came upon a hot toc which had lovely lasses inside clothed in revealing formal wear. the massage ticket was 150 k and i said i wanted a bj and they all nodded in assent. after all, the forum has advised that hot tocs are all about bj's.

the girl was not the pick of the litter but she was adequate and we climbed upstairs. after a short massage she said that her services cost 500 k. she would not negotiate down. i was indignant. this forum has repeatedly counseled that a bj was in the neighborhood of 200 k and less. (more on this issue later).

i left abruptly but not without first getting the business card of the place and permission to publish it on the internet. it is kieu anh hot toc 118 su van hanh st. p. 12 quan 10. now i am in a bit of a quandary because the street number on the business card was the one that i just gave, but the one on the placard outside the shop was 118 so i figure that if it is not one then it must be the other. cell # 0907184675.

much to my surprise, two doors down was another hot toc with similarly accoutered females. here, i was prepared to curb my outrage at an inflated price and indeed they were quoting 500 k. a customer was there who spoke good english. he assured me that the going rate was 500 k. i left with my seminal sacs still fully charged.

after some reflection on what happened with my chagrin at the prices in these two places, i have come to believe that the mistake was mine. i was probably operating under a preconceived misconception that hot tocs offered only bj's. but after rethinking this through, and recalling the limited dialog that i had with the girls, everything, not just bj's, was on the menu for 500 k.

i continued walking through the neighborhood and i saw countless short time hotels with hourly rates; a sure indication that people are doing quickies inside. the neighborhood had loads of massage outlets. the several that i canvassed told me that they all offered hand jobs and nothing else.

i tried one out. the girl was tallish, thin, 22 years old, and was hollywood cute. not so well endowed as some thin girls tend to be but that is not a material objection for me. her massage skills were superlative; sticking the sole of her foot deep in my crotch while pulling on my leg. unfortunately her hand job skills were untutored and coarse and after a good start she relied on speed and "ground and pound" rather than finesse to draw out the orgasm. after a while i allowed her to give up. my only regret was that i was unable to take this mignon to the privacy of a bedroom and have my way with her.

[Member #4566]

I was stopped by moto girls looking for action on Nguyen Chi Thanh St. Near the intersection of Su Van Hanh St in district 5. It was midday (about 4 girls with in the space of 5 minutes) and then again at 4 AM. Also, I was approached by mamasans with girls close to the Windsor Hotel. One very pretty girl wanted 800,000 but would not go to my hotel room because she did not have I'd. Instead she wanted to take me to a short time hotel. I wasn't really interested in street walkers and I suspected type of scam so often reported on this forum where your pants are rifled while you are showering. However, the mamasan promised other pretty girls who had I'd's if I was willing to wait. Like I said, I am not interested in SW's so I passed.

[AmericanThief]

Most likely a scam. A proper WG knows she need I'd especially if she's working the foreign tourist market. What are you doing out at 4 am?

[B Bardill]

I walked down Su Van Hanh today and last night and saw nothing. I live on the street but past the hot toys you mentioned in your earlier posts. If you go to the park at Hung Vung and Ly Thai To in the late hrs or early morning there will be motogirls that cruise there. I always have a room by the hour close that I get before heading there. Just in case. If I hang out at my sisters shop on Cao Thang, it's a short walk for me. You're right about the hot toys on Su Van Hanh, the girls are cute and also expensive for what you get, which ain't much.


I was stopped by moto girls looking for action on Nguyen Chi Thanh St. Near the intersection of Su Van Hanh St in district 5. It was midday (about 4 girls with in the space of 5 minutes) and then again at 4 AM. Also, I was approached by mamasans with girls close to the Windsor Hotel. One very pretty girl wanted 800,000 but would not go to my hotel room because she did not have I'd. Instead she wanted to take me to a short time hotel. I wasn't really interested in street walkers and I suspected type of scam so often reported on this forum where your pants are rifled while you are showering. However, the mamasan promised other pretty girls who had I'd's if I was willing to wait. Like I said, I am not interested in SW's so I passed.

[B Bardill]

Thanks to whoever mentioned using the ZALO App. I put it on and was hooked up with 4 girls in 2 days. Like the previous person said, it's all Vietnamese, but post a couple times in English and they will message you. There are also a lot of gay guys on the site though, so you have to sift carefully. I had 3 girls for under 750 K Dong each and including the short time motel room. The 4th girl was free and just had to take her to lunch and she knows I am coming back and will call her. All the girls were 25 ish except the 4th, she was 31, I like a little older experienced but still hot looking girls for longer times. Just my taste.

Have fun.

[Pesto26]

Thanks to whoever mentioned using the ZALO App. I put it on and was hooked up with 4 girls in 2 days. Like the previous person said, it's all Vietnamese, but post a couple times in English and they will message you. There are also a lot of gay guys on the site though, so you have to sift carefully. I had 3 girls for under 750 K Dong each and including the short time motel room. The 4th girl was free and just had to take her to lunch and she knows I am coming back and will call her. All the girls were 25 ish except the 4th, she was 31, I like a little older experienced but still hot looking girls for longer times. Just my taste.

Have fun.I plan on using this when I get to Vietnam. I already have it installed but I was wondering did you just post statuses? And how did you articulate that you wanted to meet up with them and what not? I am seriously interested!

[AmericanThief]

To be honest zalo is no different than all the msg apps.

[B Bardill]

I plan on using this when I get to Vietnam. I already have it installed but I was wondering did you just post statuses? And how did you articulate that you wanted to meet up with them and what not? I am seriously interested!Actually I just posted in the chat room that I was looking for girls to have fun with in English.

[AmericanThief]

How did you activate it? I couldn't understand the entire activation code.

[Pesto26]

How did you activate it? I couldn't understand the entire activation code.You put in your number and it'll text you something or you can bypass by logging in with your Facebook which is what I did.

[AmericanThief]

Yeah, I got it but its harder to navigate because of the language.

Where is Jessica Hyde?

[Sidtip]

You put in your number and it'll text you something or you can bypass by logging in with your Facebook which is what I did.Try tango or wechat. You can find all the girls within a km and there seem to be more English speakers. You can tell from the photos who is who in many cases. But all you need to do is send a message to 50 of them saying $xx for an hour or overnight and 5 will message back with their counter offer.

[BeachBoy46]

Try tango or wechat. You can find all the girls within a km and there seem to be more English speakers. You can tell from the photos who is who in many cases. But all you need to do is send a message to 50 of them saying $xx for an hour or overnight and 5 will message back with their counter offer.I'm not going too well with wechat. English speaker only and replies come back in an asian language which I cannot read. Is there any translate or how do you suss out the WLs.

[Pesto26]

I'm not going too well with wechat. English speaker only and replies come back in an asian language which I cannot read. Is there any translate or how do you suss out the WLs..Use key words in English like sex, 1 hour or all night.

Vietnamese translations are mot gio (1 hour), hai gio (2 hours), het dem (all night), bay gio (right now) followed by yes? Ok? And price.

[BeachBoy46]

Use key words in English like sex, 1 hour or all night.

Vietnamese translations are mot gio (1 hour), hai gio (2 hours), het dem (all night), bay gio (right now) followed by yes? Ok? And price.Many thanks. Your courteous and prompt reply is much appreciated. I will keep trying by using your info. Let you know how I go. BB.

[Sidtip]

Many thanks. Your courteous and prompt reply is much appreciated. I will keep trying by using your info. Let you know how I go. BB.Thanks Pesto for replying. I have been out and about. If you message enough girls you will soon get some english replies. They all know how to write $100. You will even get some gay dudes trying to hit on you. Not cool!

[Phazze93]

Hello all!

New here. Got to few quick questions if anybody doesn't mind helping.

I'm going to be going to Ho Chi Minh City in a week or so for a couple days and I want to try the escorts there.

But. As I have never tried an escort service in Vietnam, I am finding it difficult to pick a site.

Here are all the individual outcall escort sites that I have found. (discretion is my #1 priority, so no BJ bars, pool bars, etc. Outcall to my hotel only).

Any opinions or suggestions on the sites validity / authenticity of their girls would be greatly appreciated.

Vietnam escort models, Ho Chi Minh City social escort service, Saigon Escorts, Sex tour.

Vietnam High Class Escort Models, Saigon Ho Chi Minh City Social Escort Service, Vietnamese girls for rent, Beautiful Saigon Escorts, Sex tour, red light district, pubs & bars, holidays, travel & living, adult vacations, exotic massage parlour, home.

Vietnam Escort Agency Saigon escort Hanoi escort service Out-Call Massage Service in Ho Chi Minh City Saigon Hanoi Vietnam.

Vietnam Escort Agency Saigon escort Hanoi escort service Out-Call Massage Service in Ho Chi Minh City Saigon Hanoi Vietnam.

Vietnam Escort Service, HCMC Escort Service, Ho Chi Minh Escort Service.

http://www.vietnames....com/Index.html

http://vietnamescort....com/index.html

Girls.

The prices all seem to be about the same. Starting at $300.

Also, if anyone has had experience in Vietnam and has any advice, that would be great as well.

Advice on:

-safety of barebacking (hoping that a minimum of $300 implies quality).

-anything particular about hiring an escort in Vietnam.

Additional info:

-I'm early 20's.

-I'm an American born Asian (Chinese / Taiwanese) background (I won't stick out like a sore thumb).

-planning on staying at Silverland Sakyo Hotel & Spa (4 star, Japanese area).

Anyone know if this hotel is GF? Especially late at night or overnight?

Thanks ahead of time for any help!

[Sidtip]

Hello all!

New here. Got to few quick questions if anybody doesn't mind helping.

I'm going to be going to Ho Chi Minh City in a week or so for a couple days and I want to try the escorts there.

But. As I have never tried an escort service in Vietnam, I am finding it difficult to pick a site.

Here are all the individual outcall escort sites that I have found. (discretion is my #1 priority, so no BJ bars, pool bars, etc. Outcall to my hotel only).

Any opinions or suggestions on the sites validity / authenticity of their girls would be greatly appreciated.

Vietnam escort models, Ho Chi Minh City social escort service, Saigon Escorts, Sex tour.

Vietnam High Class Escort Models, Saigon Ho Chi Minh City Social Escort Service, Vietnamese girls for rent, Beautiful Saigon Escorts, Sex tour, red light district, pubs & bars, holidays, travel & living, adult vacations, exotic massage parlour, home.

Vietnam Escort Agency Saigon escort Hanoi escort service Out-Call Massage Service in Ho Chi Minh City Saigon Hanoi Vietnam.

Vietnam Escort Agency Saigon escort Hanoi escort service Out-Call Massage Service in Ho Chi Minh City Saigon Hanoi Vietnam.

Vietnam Escort Service, HCMC Escort Service, Ho Chi Minh Escort Service.

http://www.vietnames....com/Index.html

http://vietnamescort....com/index.html

Girls.

The prices all seem to be about the same. Starting at $300.

Also, if anyone has had experience in Vietnam and has any advice, that would be great as well.

Advice on:

-safety of barebacking (hoping that a minimum of $300 implies quality).

-anything particular about hiring an escort in Vietnam.

Additional info:

-I'm early 20's.

-I'm an American born Asian (Chinese / Taiwanese) background (I won't stick out like a sore thumb).

-planning on staying at Silverland Sakyo Hotel & Spa (4 star, Japanese area).

Anyone know if this hotel is GF? Especially late at night or overnight?

Thanks ahead of time for any help!Don; why you think rich people get AIDS? If you bb you are taking a risk that could stay with you for the rest of your life. As cute as these girls are, they could still be or have been with someone who has the sort of disease that you just don't want to catch. Be careful.

[Phazze93]

Here's the list of escort sites again. (didn't link correctly in original post).

http://vietnamescortservice.com/

http://www.saigonescort.com/?frame=home

http://saigonescortagency.com/

http://hanoiescortservice.com/

http://saigongirls.net/

http://www.vietnamescortagency.com/Index.html

http://vietnamescortgirl.com/index.html

http://hanoi-escort-agency.com/

Anyone have any experience with ANY of these sites or any other agency sites? I've seen a couple other posts in this thread about the same topic, but no one has ever responded.

[ArcadiaEgo]

Hello all!

New here. Got to few quick questions if anybody doesn't mind helping.

I'm going to be going to Ho Chi Minh City in a week or so for a couple days and I want to try the escorts there.

But. As I have never tried an escort service in Vietnam, I am finding it difficult to pick a site.

Here are all the individual outcall escort sites that I have found. (discretion is my #1 priority, so no BJ bars, pool bars, etc. Outcall to my hotel only).

Any opinions or suggestions on the sites validity / authenticity of their girls would be greatly appreciated.

Vietnam escort models, Ho Chi Minh City social escort service, Saigon Escorts, Sex tour.

Vietnam High Class Escort Models, Saigon Ho Chi Minh City Social Escort Service, Vietnamese girls for rent, Beautiful Saigon Escorts, Sex tour, red light district, pubs & bars, holidays, travel & living, adult vacations, exotic massage parlour, home.So many things. Okay, here we go.

First off, pretty much all those sites are scams.

Second, 300? That's insane. Think 30-40 for ST and 90-100 for LT.

Third, any hotel with more than three stars will not let you bring a girl over.

If you want escorts delivered, get wechat and start sending messages to chicks around you. You can also go to Apoc.

I've been here two days and that's what worked for me so far.

[Phazze93]

So many things. Okay, here we go.

First off, pretty much all those sites are scams.

Second, 300? That's insane. Think 30-40 for ST and 90-100 for LT.

Third, any hotel with more than three stars will not let you bring a girl over.

If you want escorts delivered, get wechat and start sending messages to chicks around you. You can also go to Apoc.

I've been here two days and that's what worked for me so far.
So many things. Okay, here we go.

First off, pretty much all those sites are scams.

Second, 300? That's insane. Think 30-40 for ST and 90-100 for LT.

Third, any hotel with more than three stars will not let you bring a girl over.

If you want escorts delivered, get wechat and start sending messages to chicks around you. You can also go to Apoc.

I've been here two days and that's what worked for me so far.First off, I appreciate the response. Always nice to get a different perspective.

Ok now.

-How do you know those sites are scams? Have you experienced it yourself or do you personally know someone who has?

-Again, have you experienced the 4,5 star hotels rejecting girls? (I don't plan on bringing one back past 9-10 pm).

-wechat doesn't exactly have a "escort" section. Plus I'm on business there and I don;t exactly have all the time in the world to test which girls are escorts.

-as I said before, my #1 priority is discretion and safety. Therefore, I am not going to a hooker bar haha (I might if it were a personal vacation).

Anyways. My plan right now is, since almost all of those sites require a deposit to "reserve" an escort. I'm going to SMS them and see if its possible to see additional pictures of the girls upon the in-person deposit payment (I won't be keeping any photos, just looking). If they refuse or give some bullshit answer. Then I might reconsider.

Basically, all I'm looking for is anyone who has had ANY experience with these agencies before. And IF not, where else can I find "model" escorts? I don't want to hire a 5,6,7, or 8. I could get those without paying for it =P. I want to hire a 9 or 10 and have some real fun.


Don; why you think rich people get AIDS? If you bb you are taking a risk that could stay with you for the rest of your life. As cute as these girls are, they could still be or have been with someone who has the sort of disease that you just don't want to catch. Be careful.Appreciate your concern. But I knew that when I asked the question. Of course theres always a risk when barebacking.

I was just hoping for any objective opinions on the matter. As in, if anyone has had any knowledge on cleanliness of high-end escorts in vietnam, etc.

As tempted as I am to ask for bareback. It would really depend on the girl and what kind of vibe I get from them. IE: if they agree to it right away, it might be a sign that they do it very often.

[Sacasable]

5 pm first evening.

I went for a massage in a central spot in D1 opposite corner near Louis Vuitton shop. I was lured in by a really cute, sexy girl outside. When we got upstairs I could tell she didn't want to do the body massage (and probably her job is only to stand outside and attract the punters), but with some persuasion they agreed she would do it. The dirty massage table was a turn off, but this girl was way too cute and I wanted her hands all over my body. To cut to the chase, I got an ok massage, from an unbelievably hot girl but no extras. I tried to bargain with her towards the end of the session, but it was strictly off the menu. I ended up offering all the way up to $150 to service me, but there was no way. Gutted, I left. Lesson learned, establish what is on and off the menu up front to avoid disappointment.

Later that night I headed to a few of the girly bars that are often mentioned on here. If I had to choose I would say my favourite was 91 as it had a fairly laid back vibe and no funny business with trying to overcharge on drinks. In total I visited 3 times on my trip and each night they had about 10-12 girls, in my estimation they were all mid-20's (and, for me, they looked a bit washed up and like they'd been in the game too long. I felt the other bars had similar quality, but less selection.

No sex for me, so back to the room to crack one out.

Night two.

I had a good score from a moto-guy I met on the corner of Dong Khoi and Dong Du. I told him what I liked and he brought over the next 20 minutes he called for around six or seven girls to be brought round on moto for me to choose from. I eventually found one I liked and took her for ST, $40 one pop. Good service BBBJ without request, and all positions. Had a good session and tipped her D200 k. I have his card, if anyone wants his number PM me.

Around 11 pm I headed to Dao bar just near bar 91. It's quite a swanky place and I'm pretty certain there were a mixture of WGs and a regular girls. This wasn't an ideal hunting ground for me as a solo monger. I like clarity and a straightforward transactional conversation when it comes to P4P.

I decided to move on to Apocalypse, a night club that I full of pros. Unfortunately I thought it was horrible, full of old, ugly westernised hookers who were trying to charge $100 a pop. I looked around for an hour or so but didn't find anything that caught my fancy so I left.

I turned in for the night around 2 am.

3rd night.

Went to the illustrious Kaka spa. I have to say after all the hype I was a little upset to find only 3 girls there at 7 pm and a poor selection at that. Perhaps I was just unlucky that night, so I'd check it out again if I was back in the area.

I picked up a moto round the corner and said I look for lady. We drove round the city for the best part of two hours during which time I went into a number of "Barber shops" - girls were generally old and quite ugly and only available for BJ, no FS. My moto driver then arranged for his friends to deliver numerous girls for me to look at. Some were quite acceptable, but in the end I wanted to hold out for something better. Next we drove around looking at moto girls on a ring road area. In the end we stopped one of the moto girls, I described the look I like and she was able to call one of her friends a super hot, white skin, slim girl with no tattoos. I wasn't disappointed, lookswise I'd give the girl they brought me an 8 (at least). Sex was ok, BBBJ and then missionary. Total cost $70 inc. ST hotel, girl and moto. More than I usually pay, but I thought it was worth it.

Anyone wants an other details please feel free to PM me.

Sac

[ArcadiaEgo]

Also, I'm only two days in and I'm beginning to hate this place. Every (read: Every) person is out to scam you one way or another. If you see a smiling face, they are trying to get something from you. It's a country where you have to ask anyone you are doing any financial transaction with (like food, cabs, goods, whatever) how are you going to try to fuck me over. Such as hugely different prices for foreigners, "hidden" fees, etc.

If that's not enough, crimes against tourists seem to be going up. They come around with box cutters to cut your backpack / camera strap away from you then race off on their Vespas. Or come up to you in gangs of five or more then mug you. The police here are next to useless. You have to actively protect all of your belongings at all times, even hotels.

I've never seen anything like this before. Don't get me wrong. I've been to PI, Thailand, Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. I don't mind if I get overcharged a buck or two in these places because I understand their economic situation. I'm actually pretty liberal with my money when it comes to vacations. But Saigon / HCMC is definitely something else.

My hope is when I escape this city tomorrow to go up to Hoi An, it may get better. I doubt it though. There's no wonder in my mind why only 5% of tourists return to this place a second time.

[ArcadiaEgo]

First off, I appreciate the response. Always nice to get a different perspective.

Ok now.

-How do you know those sites are scams? Have you experienced it yourself or do you personally know someone who has?

-Again, have you experienced the 4,5 star hotels rejecting girls? (I don't plan on bringing one back past 9-10 pm).

-wechat doesn't exactly have a "escort" section. Plus I'm on business there and I don;t exactly have all the time in the world to test which girls are escorts.

-as I said before, my #1 priority is discretion and safety. Therefore, I am not going to a hooker bar haha (I might if it were a personal vacation).

Anyways. My plan right now is, since almost all of those sites require a deposit to "reserve" an escort. I'm going to SMS them and see if its possible to see additional pictures of the girls upon the in-person deposit payment (I won't be keeping any photos, just looking). If they refuse or give some bullshit answer. Then I might reconsider..As someone who obviously hasn't read anything past the first page, good luck bro.

[James Dean 2]

Given that my hotel does not allow company and I do like more than a cramped hot toc, I have been hunting for, shall I say, a regular brothel for 6 months now.

(I come here very often).

Finally found one.

This place is opposite the Grand Saigon hotel in a small alley off. On the corner there is a small cafe.

If you are not sure, just sit here and get a beer and you will see a flock of women going in and out. Just follow the candy.

Once you enter the alley, normally someone will approach you. He is is manager of the 'hotel'.

If not, just walk 20 metres and you will see a hotel on your left. Small reception are and a room to the right with chairs etc. This is the choosing room.

They will line up the offerings here. You can sip a beer in the meantime if you want.

The choice is between 4-5 girls, in their mid 20's and no more than a 7.

Rooms are upstairs and service is standard. BBBJ with some coaxing but rest is standard.

Damages: 1 Million all in (USD 50) for ST.

This could be bargained but my buddy was pretty enthu and agreed right away. Now I am also stuck with that price!

Separately, I have seen quite a few hot tocs on Nguy and C; Trinh, opposite the pullman hotel. Looking at the talent and the way they are dressed, I am quite sure its not just a hair cutting salon. Planning to be brave and check them out one of these evenings. Anyone else has tried?

[Wendella]

This place is opposite the Grand Saigon hotel in a small alley off. On the corner there is a small cafe. Is this the hotel on Dong Khoi? If not, which street?

Thanks.

[Riverstar]

After a three year absence I am back working in Vietnam on a short term contract although on this occasion I am based in Saigon not Hanoi. On my previous visit that ran for three years I was very surprised how many married Vietnamese ladies wanted a fling with a Western man and I am glad to say that it looks as if the same applies to Saigon.

My first experience in Hanoi was with a lady who was on a training course in Hanoi and helped me out translating a menu in a small restaurant and after meeting in the same restaurant a few times said she would like to come back to my apartment to watch a TV programme. That night we ended up in bed together and in the morning told me that she had only had sex with her husband and wanted to try another man but didn't want a Vietnamese man. The second told me that her husband had never satisfied her and her female friends often you to say that Western men had bigger cocks so she decided she wanted to try one and I am glad to say that she choose me especially as she had the sweetest and tightest pussy it has been my pleasure to service. Over the three years I spent in Hanoi I met a few other ladies both married and single and had more free sex than I had ever enjoyed especially as I was then a man rapidly approaching his 60's.

A few weeks after arriving in Saigon my company asked me to attend a conference in the Nang and during a social evening a very attractive lady in her 40's took it upon herself to act as my interpreter. She later mentioned that she lived in Saigon so we arranged to travel back together and shared a taxi from the airport, when I dropped her off at her house I mentioned that it would be nice to meet for coffee sometime and giving her my business card said if she was free one day to give me a call. Two days later she called and it didn't take too long before we ended up in bed together.

I have been fortunate and have worked in a number of different countries but never encountered so many married and single ladies who are looking for a discrete fling with a Western man.

[James Dean 2]

Is this the hotel on Dong Khoi? If not, which street?

Thanks.Yes, on Dong Khoi.

[OzzieSuds]

Is this the hotel on Dong Khoi? If not, which street?

Thanks.I reckon he is talking about the Nga Quan Hotel which is in a lane off Ho Huan Nghiep. I usually stay in the New Hotel nearby and what I see there are obvious professionals with makeup and jewellry etc. Far prefer the SYT that can be met in the various businesses nearby.

[Sidtip]

After a three year absence I am back working in Vietnam on a short term contract although on this occasion I am based in Saigon not Hanoi. On my previous visit that ran for three years I was very surprised how many married Vietnamese ladies wanted a fling with a Western man and I am glad to say that it looks as if the same applies to Saigon.

My first experience in Hanoi was with a lady who was on a training course in Hanoi and helped me out translating a menu in a small restaurant and after meeting in the same restaurant a few times said she would like to come back to my apartment to watch a TV programme. That night we ended up in bed together and in the morning told me that she had only had sex with her husband and wanted to try another man but didn't want a Vietnamese man. The second told me that her husband had never satisfied her and her female friends often you to say that Western men had bigger cocks so she decided she wanted to try one and I am glad to say that she choose me especially as she had the sweetest and tightest pussy it has been my pleasure to service...He is right I'm not sure if I posted this earlier, so forgive me if I did. I had always wanted to go to the bar on top of the Hotel Caravelle, but never had and it was my last night in Saigon. A week ago. So I stood out the front and asked the first two girls walking past if they spoke English -yes and then asked them to come inside with me. The first two pairs refused, claiming to be busy. So I went to the third pair who were sitting eating some bread thing over the road in some park thing. So they couldn't say they were busy. I told them that I wanted to try the "famous' bar and that I had no one to go with and grabbed their hands and pulled them across the road with me. They were a bit corncerned at first but I smiled at them and told them not to worry and thaqt they could leave at any time. They were worried about being dragged into a hotel and a lift by a crazy westerner. But they came. One was more keen than the other one (the fat one keener than the pretty one) and she kept coming with me. Long story short, we sat down, they ordered the cheapest drinks they could find because they were horrified by the prices (happy hour till 8 pm from memory) and sat with me. 30 minutes in the prettier one wanted to marry me. The fatter one was married with a child. Quite funny. I would never ever ever have done this in my country, but westerners can do a lot of things in Asia. The girls loved it and didn't want to go, but I really only wanted to sample the place and move on. I wasn't after sex, I just wanted the fun experience of doing what I did and also to try the bar.

Confidence is important, but please please please don't think that I forced the girls to come. They were giggling as I was dragging them with me. They left with a story to tell and had a fun few hours and I got an ego boost and was able to finally experience the bar. It's ok, but not amazing.

[Sidtip]

Also, I'm only two days in and I'm beginning to hate this place. Every (read: Every) person is out to scam you one way or another. If you see a smiling face, they are trying to get something from you. It's a country where you have to ask anyone you are doing any financial transaction with (like food, cabs, goods, whatever) how are you going to try to fuck me over. Such as hugely different prices for foreigners, "hidden" fees, etc.

If that's not enough, crimes against tourists seem to be going up. They come around with box cutters to cut your backpack / camera strap away from you then race off on their Vespas. Or come up to you in gangs of five or more then mug you. The police here are next to useless. You have to actively protect all of your belongings at all times, even hotels.

I've never seen anything like this before. Don't get me wrong. I've been to PI, Thailand, Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. I don't mind if I get overcharged a buck or two in these places because I understand their economic situation. I'm actually pretty liberal with my money when it comes to vacations. But Saigon / HCMC is definitely something else.

My hope is when I escape this city tomorrow to go up to Hoi An, it may get better. I doubt it though. There's no wonder in my mind why only 5% of tourists return to this place a second time.This is one of the craziest posts I have seen. I walk the streets at any hour and always alone and I never ever run into trouble. I am not a big person and I have never felt unsafe. If there are scammers then there are no more than any other country. In fact I can't think of any scammers unless you call it a scam to quote an initial high price in the market. I have never seen any gangs ever, not heard of box cutter-wielding bandits. One person may have had a bad experience, but this is not the norm. This place is a hotbed of sex, sin and fun. There is so much going on that you won't be able to fit it all in.

[Phazze93]

As someone who obviously hasn't read anything past the first page, good luck bro.Nothing in recent posts answer my questions. And I'm not going back past 2010 because at that point, the info is probably not as reliable.

[Wendella]

Nothing in recent posts answer my questions. And I'm not going back past 2010 because at that point, the info is probably not as reliable.What were your questions again? I see one post of yours below asking about escort sites and 4-5 star hotels being GF.

I haven't tried 4-5 star hotels myself to test it out, but have seen many reports up here about them not being GF. Easy solution, just go to a hotel more suited to what you want, that's what people here do. You still have your main hotel room, you just go quickly get another one to do what you want there. You want your 4-5 star hotel room and also be able to have it be GF? Sorry, that's just not going to work. It could be that all the people who posted before were lying, but I don't think it's likely. I have seen reports that said they were allowed to have girls up in the room before a certain time, like 9 pm or 10 pm or 11 pm, I don't remember, but not after that. I know this isn't the answer you want, but I'm pretty sure this is how it is.

About the escort sites, sorry I have no idea.

Were there other questions?

I saw in one of your posts that going into girl bars wasn't an option since you were on a business trip. I assume you won't have a chaperone with you, so I don't see what's to stop you making a tour of the area solo in the evening or later. That said, those places are not too good lately. I've had a string of pretty terrible experiences in them recently. And a few years ago they were far better than they are now, in terms of the quality of the girls (youth and beauty) and also the service level. More and more of the bars are adopting a scam mentality toward the customer.

[MutantChicken]

Given that my hotel does not allow company and I do like more than a cramped hot toc, I have been hunting for, shall I say, a regular brothel for 6 months now.

(I come here very often).

Finally found one.

This place is opposite the Grand Saigon hotel in a small alley off. On the corner there is a small cafe.

If you are not sure, just sit here and get a beer and you will see a flock of women going in and out. Just follow the candy.

Once you enter the alley, normally someone will approach you. He is is manager of the 'hotel'.

If not, just walk 20 metres and you will see a hotel on your left. Small reception are and a room to the right with chairs etc...I had a opportunity to examine this location so I wanted to provide a second opinion and some clarification. Firstly this isn't a "fishbowel" perse, what it is is a depot for all the motogirls working in the area, in the past there was a few hotels running this business model you will arrive with a xe om etc they will call the girls and they will arrive for your approval. When I was there at the cafe for about 30-40 min a total of 10-12 girls arrive in the mid-late 20's and around 6-7's with the lower end of the scale more in number. I would be very suprised if these arent the very same girls offered for 40 USD without the mark up and hotel fees by the moto pimps hanging around. I was actually offered it for 100 USD which I refused given the lack of outstanding girls and my alternatives. I would say given the system it would be hard to get it below 1 mill, and for the looks and what I would assume is limited service, I would personally give it a miss unless you find a gem. I saw quite alot of korean japanese customers a few indian types and one caucasian, none left smiling and actually left in a hurry, the service time seems to be under the 1 hr range. So imo for a little more you prob get a better experience from the girls at the PNL bars.

[Viet Lover]

I reckon he is talking about the Nga Quan Hotel which is in a lane off Ho Huan Nghiep. I usually stay in the New Hotel nearby and what I see there are obvious professionals with makeup and jewellry etc. Far prefer the SYT that can be met in the various businesses nearby.Dang. I was walking around there today to try to find this hotel spot but couldn't remember the name. I saw a sign for Hotel Thien Kim Duc in an alleyway, but couldn't find the entrance. Either way, I guess it was the wrong spot or wrong alley way because it wasn't Nga Quan. I'll check again tomorrow.

[Viet Lover]

I had a opportunity to examine this location so I wanted to provide a second opinion and some clarification. Firstly this isn't a "fishbowel" perse, what it is is a depot for all the motogirls working in the area, in the past there was a few hotels running this business model you will arrive with a xe om etc they will call the girls and they will arrive for your approval. When I was there at the cafe for about 30-40 min a total of 10-12 girls arrive in the mid-late 20's and around 6-7's with the lower end of the scale more in number. I would be very suprised if these arent the very same girls offered for 40 USD without the mark up and hotel fees by the moto pimps hanging around. I was actually offered it for 100 USD which I refused given the lack of outstanding girls and my alternatives. I would say given the system it would be hard to get it below 1 mill, and for the looks and what I would assume is limited service, I would personally give it a miss unless you find a gem. I saw quite alot of korean japanese customers a few indian types and one caucasian, none left smiling and actually left in a hurry, the service time seems to be under the 1 hr range. So imo for a little more you prob get a better experience from the girls at the PNL bars.Ah, I didn't see this post before when I wrote. Thanks for the heads up MutantChicken. I'd probably still go just to sit at the cafe and watch the parade of girls. Anyone want to join me for a beer?

[MutantChicken]

Ah, I didn't see this post before when I wrote. Thanks for the heads up MutantChicken. I'd probably still go just to sit at the cafe and watch the parade of girls. Anyone want to join me for a beer?Some examples of the local freelancer action all only 300 k plus hotel. FYI.

[MutantChicken]

I thought I uploaded the pics but something went wrong.

[James Dean 2]

Firstly this isn't a "fishbowel" perse, what it is is a depot for all the motogirls working in the area, .... So imo for a little more you prob get a better experience from the girls at the PNL bars.You are right, not a fishbowl perse as compared to the Thai ones. Your description is way more accurate for this place!

I am going to check out the PNL bars next based on your advice. First its time to RTFF for me to find out about these places!

Cheers

[MutantChicken]

Another one I tried today cost 300 k, 25 yrs old unrushed BBBJ any position.