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AmericanThief
09-13-14, 10:55
Anyone want to join me for a beer?Do you drink beer?
MutantChicken
09-13-14, 10:59
This one is 19 yrs old decent service tho can't say exactly GFE. BBBJ tries to deepthroat no kissing but very vocal and you can feel her tiny pussy griping your dick.
Another one I tried today cost 300 k, 25 yrs old unrushed BBBJ any position.Are these the girls from that ally near the cafe? What are pnl bars? Where did you find 300 k action?
MutantChicken
09-13-14, 18:06
Are these the girls from that ally near the cafe? What are pnl bars? Where did you find 300 k action?Given the title of the post, the prices mentioned and the descriptions of the girls from the alley / cafe, its clearly not a case that these girl for 300 k are from there. Likewise a bit of common sense would allow you to work out what the pnl bars are.
AmericanThief
09-13-14, 18:52
Pesto26,
Mutant Chicken is a professional tour guide. You must become a paid member of this forum, and then you can send a private message to Lance and he will require a fee for showing you 300 k full service locations probably way out in Go Vap and such.
If you don't know what PNL bars are I can show you free of charge, but Mutant Chicken is your best resource for 300 k service.
MutantChicken
09-13-14, 21:11
Actually those girls work from hotels based around district 10 and 8. But yes some also from go vap.
MutantChicken
09-14-14, 17:01
Here's another sample.
Mutant Chicken-Trying to send you a PM but your box is full.
MutantChicken has just lifted these pictures from a website called banhmy. Us. Most of us locals know already that this is a hit and mostly miss website. There is the occasional gem, but you need patience. MC maybe you should let people know that these pic's are actually not yours, and the numbers of all the girls are obtainable to anyone who can be bothered to figure out how to navigate the site, and part with a 100,000 VND phone credit.
These girls are from a local Vietnam website. Danchoi.xxx.
MutantChicken
09-15-14, 17:01
MutantChicken has just lifted these pictures from a website called banhmy. Us. Most of us locals know already that this is a hit and mostly miss website. There is the occasional gem, but you need patience. MC maybe you should let people know that these pic's are actually not yours, and the numbers of all the girls are obtainable to anyone who can be bothered to figure out how to navigate the site, and part with a 100,000 VND phone credit.Firstly I never said the pics were mine, even the type of photography you can see its staged, for the benefit of the model. And look at the title "Local language freelancers" anyone with a bit of commonsense would see what it was referencing. And if all you locals who about it why don't you post about your hit and miss experiences rather than just sit around being freeloaders. The post was in response to a previous poster who mentioned getting girls for 1 mill being good value. I was point out the alternative, and in my experience I get 90% hits, very few misses, and yes I'm not going to pass out their details of all my hits so the "local freeloaders" can come and cherry pick the good ones. A bit of common sense would have dispelled the very accusations leveled at me. I said these are examples blah blah. Not anything about me taking the pics just that I tried those girls.
Firstly I never said the pics were mine, even the type of photography you can see its staged, for the benefit of the model. And look at the title "Local language freelancers" anyone with a bit of commonsense would see what it was referencing. .In that post you started by saying "Another one I tried today". It sure made me think you were saying that the girl pictured was one who you yourself had been with that day. So everyone here misunderstood? And what's more, we're foolish for thinking the words meant what they normally mean in English? We should pay more attention to the lighting in the pictures and less on the words you type? And by saying "Another" it seemed to imply that the pics in your other posts were of ones you had tried on other days.
MutantChicken
09-16-14, 12:53
For someone who makes a living teaching others English you do have a problem understanding it yes I have tried all those girls I have posted pics and thus I was able to describe her service no I didn't take those pics never said I did. Further the title local language freelancers would indicate something other than the norm as it would be expected that those girls can speak Vietnamese and again the type of pics would indicate that was pics taken by the model for the model. Maybe you guys should use you brains and just accept was is directly stated rather than jumping to wrong conclusions.
Those look like professional photos to you? Really? That's interesting. To me they look the opposite, like they're mostly ones taken with mobile phones.
If it's so clear from the photos themselves that they weren't yours, doesn't it seem a bit odd that no one here thought that, but instead thought they were your own photos? It didn't for a moment occur to me that they weren't your own photos. In this forum, people post their own photos. That's what everyone here does, has always done, and so that's what everyone expects when someone posts photos and says "I was with this one". If someone posts photos taken from other sites, and get found out, they usually get run off the forum one way or another. If you post pics from another site, you're the one who has to make that very clear in your post, or risk being called out as a fraud. That's your job, not ours. Your defense here, I have to say, isn't very convincing. (professional looking photos? Seriously? Local language? The connection is what again?) It seems more like an excuse made up to cover up that this was an attempted deception easily verified as such. For sure, these photo posts were misleading. It's possible it was unintentional, also that it wasn't, but either way, it's clear the confusion was caused by the one who posted the photos without mentioning they were taken from another website.
You're right that I missed your explanation that you had met those ones personally, I hadn't read down that far in the post, misunderstood what you had said.
Are these the girls from that ally near the cafe? What are pnl bars? Where did you find 300 k action?"PNL" stands for Pham Ngu Lao, the backpacker area. Bui Vien street there is a very busy road that has some of these kind of bars, they're all close to the cross street Do Quang Do street, and that street also has some.
Maybe you guys should use you brains and just accept was is directly stated rather than jumping to wrong conclusions.Maybe, just maybe, if you didn't "borrow" other people's hard work to sell for your personal profit, no one would have problems with you? Following other people's reports, even going as far as pretending to be "the friend" of someone to a specific girl to get some extra service, and then incorporating them in your "package tours" to make a profit. Ya, that'll make some people angry. Disguising your ads as "field reports" to promote yourself? That'll make some people angry too. Borrowing another website's reviews and misleading people on this forum as your own report? Guess what? That'll make some people angry too!
I'm too lazy to go digging for it right now but if my memory serves me correctly, you were whining about wanting to get paid for services when you take people on tours. Well fine, you want to get paid? Where's the cut for everyone's reports from here that you've used? Where's the cut for the people's work that you've took from Dan Choi? I recognize the girls from there that you used in your post. Guess what? Some of those reports / reviews from Dan Choi tells you what kind of service the girls offer (positions, BBBJ, threesome, etc). Some will also give you descriptions of what the girls look like (perky tits, small tits, cute face, etc.).
Another one I tried today cost 300 k, 25 yrs old unrushed BBBJ any position.Why does this girl look so familiar? Oh ya, because I seen her before. Her name is Huong Tay. She was born in 1990. She is 1. 58 m. She's in the Le Hong Phong street area with a price of 300 K. Her phone number is listed as well. I know we can't link directly to another website's pictures but can I link to the thread? The thread contains lots of pictures that MutantChicken is "borrowing" from. If not, can I link to the Google translated thread for the non-Vietnamese readers? For those that can read Viet or brave enough to follow these instructions, from Dan Choi's main page, scroll down until you see the heading of "Gai Goi Sai Gon" (Saigon callgirls). Click on the subforum " Khu vuc Quan 8" (District 8). Scroll down to a post made by Shakespeare on 12:33 PM Sept 10,2014 (date may vary depending on your time zone) with a title that includes the girl's name. Huong Tay, her price - 300 K and her description: Mặt xinh (pretty face), da_trắng (white skin), toc đen (black hair), Mon con mắt (something about eye wear, not sure on this one).
For someone complaining about freeloaders, you sure have no problems profiting off other people's hard work. We (well most of us) come on to share information while you take it and sell it for profit. Ya, that'll win you a lot of friends. You wonder why the hate is pointed in your direction?
AmericanThief
09-27-14, 11:30
How do we know these Donchoi girls are even real? Most likely they are models, so they don't show their face, and then some ladyboy will show up or a different girl all together.
Internet service is very sketchy. Always best to stick with bar girls & massage girls or girls that you really know.
To be honest, I ordered a girl from cyberspace today, and a totally different girl showed up. She was doable, and did her best, but I told her she's not the same as in the picture. She told her boss and the boss is texting me right now.
Explaining that the girls usually work after 7 pm, and because I wanted 5 pm, she sent this bird. So I was scammed, but its wasn't harmful. I fucked a barely legal, tiny viet girl today. Man she was small, like 38 kg. She couldn't endure my cock though.
Gagged a lot, and then was in pain during intercourse.
Why does this girl look so familiar? Oh ya, because I seen her before. Her name is Huong Tay. She was born in 1990. She is 1. 58 m. She's in the Le Hong Phong street area with a price of 300 K. Her phone number is listed as well. I know we can't link directly to another website's pictures but can I link to the thread? The thread contains lots of pictures that MutantChicken is "borrowing" from. If not, can I link to the Google translated thread for the non-Vietnamese readers? For those that can read Viet or brave enough to follow these instructions, from Dan Choi's main page, scroll down until you see the heading of "Gai Goi Sai Gon" (Saigon callgirls). Click on the subforum " Khu vuc Quan 8" (District 8). Scroll down to a post made by Shakespeare on 12:33 PM Sept 10,2014 (date may vary depending on your time zone) with a title that includes the girl's name. Huong Tay, her price - 300 K and her description: Mặt xinh (pretty face), da_trắng (white skin), toc đen (black hair), Mon con mắt (something about eye wear, not sure on this one).
For someone complaining about freeloaders, you sure have no problems profiting off other people's hard work. We (well most of us) come on to share information while you take it and sell it for profit. Ya, that'll win you a lot of friends. You wonder why the hate is pointed in your direction?Hi,
I came across a few of these website. After using Goggle translate, I found that they have a "Password" thing listed together with their profile / phone no.
Any seniors here kind enough to explain what that "Password" is for and how that works?
I know this is my first post and I apologize for sounding / looking like a freeloader.
Hey guys,
Have long considered visiting and seeing what is on offer in HCMC, but from reading various posts it seems a bit difficult in some hotels to bring girls back. I know there seem to be some girl friendly hotels out there, however it doesn't seem to be a sure thing either.
Returned from a trip to the Philippines not long ago and found it incredibly easy to meet and have fun with the local girls there, very easy to communicate with as most of them speak English quite well too. Have spent a lot of time in China and found it quite easy to meet with girls over there also, actually China is my preferred mongering destination, the girls there are very beautiful and the local food is amazingly awesome.
Would love to stop by Vietnam and explore around there, just interested to hear from some other punters about there recent experiences here.
Hi everybody,
This seem out of place but have anybody experiencing any Caucasian WG in Hochiminh City? I keep hearing a lot about lots of tourist chics who come here and spent all their money so they are in dire need of cash to cover their expense. I did lurk around but no luck. Anybody has any info?
Hey all first time in hcmc. What happened to the bars on HBT? 35,49, 51? Are they still around? I walked past them just after 7 pm (literally 5 minutes ago) and nothing looked like it used to in the pictures. 51 is some sort of mediterranean bistro?
Undercoverh
10-02-14, 01:54
Another one I tried today cost 300 k, 25 yrs old unrushed BBBJ any position.Wow, nice freelancers! When I went to HCMC the last time, I made the mistake of being with a girl I met online (sex was ok, but she wanted to get married and that is all she could talk about). Next time, I will search out freelancers like the ones you posted pics of! When did you find this types of of freelancers? The freelancers I saw when I was at park did not look like the ones in your pics!
Wow, nice freelancers! When I went to HCMC the last time, I made the mistake of being with a girl I met online (sex was ok, but she wanted to get married and that is all she could talk about). Next time, I will search out freelancers like the ones you posted pics of! When did you find this types of of freelancers? The freelancers I saw when I was at park did not look like the ones in your pics!Disregard MCs posts. I've spent this week reading up to 35 pages back. His pages contain just general info with 0 addresses.
Disregard MCs posts. I've spent this week reading up to 35 pages back. His pages contain just general info with 0 addresses.I believe he has several more identities here to praise himself. He is already on my ignore list.
Undercoverh
10-03-14, 01:59
The one time I went to HCMC, it was to meet a girl from an online dating site. We had already agreed on sex (because we were in love-some Asian girls believe in online dating and falling in love). I arrived in HCMC and she took off from her government job for a 5 days vacation with me.
On a scale of 1 to 10, she is about a 5, short, a little on the fat side (at this point you make be wondering why I was with her) but she loved to have sex, give oral, and have oral given to her. Her cherry was small and tight, a good lay. But after being with her for about a day and seeing all the other sexy looking pretty Viet girls, I was kicking myself for being with this girl. Plus, she always talked about getting married. No way!
Based on reading the post here, it seems like finding and paying for sex is very difficult in HCMC compared to (for example) Bangkok. I have been to Thailand tons of times and I love the upfront clear pricing for sex and the exactly what you will receive. I enjoy knowing that at the MP in Bangkok the management will train their girls to provide a certain level of service.
But in HCMC, from the post I read, it seems all there is going from one ugly store front to the next looking for bad hand jobs and trying to overpay for sex with older Viet women. My question is, why would anyone go through all that trouble in HCMC looking for sex when Thailand is right next door?
Maybe I have it all wrong and hopefully someone here can provide locations of good no hassle places for sex in HCMC. The girl I met in HCMC we broke up. I would not mind going back if I meet another girl online and she is very attractive and between 18 and 22 (and we already agree to sex). Of course, they have to fall in love with you before a good regular girl with agree to the sex before you arrive. But at this point, that is the only way I would return to HCMC. I certainly would not go there just to hunt for sex, from the post here, it seems like it is too much trouble.
Hi fellows,
Haven't been in Apo or the pro scene for a while but got this warning from a friend and it seems genuine - http://vietnam.craigslist.org/cas/4691228272.html, so be careful.
Cheers and happy mongering.
SteelBaton
10-07-14, 07:06
Hey guys,
Have long considered visiting and seeing what is on offer in HCMC, but from reading various posts it seems a bit difficult in some hotels to bring girls back. I know there seem to be some girl friendly hotels out there, however it doesn't seem to be a sure thing either.
Returned from a trip to the Philippines not long ago and found it incredibly easy to meet and have fun with the local girls there, very easy to communicate with as most of them speak English quite well too. Have spent a lot of time in China and found it quite easy to meet with girls over there also, actually China is my preferred mongering destination, the girls there are very beautiful and the local food is amazingly awesome.
Would love to stop by Vietnam and explore around there, just interested to hear from some other punters about there recent experiences here.You can bring a girl to any 2 or 3 star hotel, I believe. My last trip I meet a couple of sweet girls up near the airport. Young tight sweet GFE experiences. It's perhaps not as easy as Thailand or AC and the selection is less but an interesting alternative if you'd like a change. If you are happy with Thais and Pinays then no need to come to VN to work harder for fewer choices. But, I'm headed back there in a few weeks, hoping for more of what I had last time.
LuvAsianTang
10-07-14, 09:01
Hi fellows,
Haven't been in Apo or the pro scene for a while but got this warning from a friend and it seems genuine - http://vietnam.craigslist.org/cas/4691228272.html, so be careful.
Cheers and happy mongering.HE may have gotten it from a toilet seat. New studies have shown that you can get it from a toilet seat.
If you sit down before the other guy gets up.
Sorry I couldn't resist LAT.
Where are pregnant girls available in Vietnam?
I plan to travel there in the new year.
Any info, PM me please.
AmericanThief
10-31-14, 13:07
Hi fellows,
Haven't been in Apo or the pro scene for a while but got this warning from a friend and it seems genuine - http://vietnam.craigslist.org/cas/4691228272.html, so be careful.
Cheers and happy mongering.Hey you old korean mutherfucker, don't believe everything you see on Craigslist. That girl got an HIV test already and posted it online to prove he just trying to deface her.
AmericanThief
10-31-14, 13:11
Where are pregnant girls available in Vietnam?
I plan to travel there in the new year.
Any info, PM me please.There is no pregnant girl shop as I know of. I do know how to get it. You have to seek out a male, that has a pregnant female. That's the only way I know because I knew a guy who did it. So hit up the social networks, talk to guys and ask for help.
Or as a last resort, and a dangerous one, you can hit the streets and take your chances. What would you pay me if I found one for you? PM me.
QUOTE=Undercoverh My question is, why would anyone go through all that trouble in HCMC looking for sex when Thailand is right next door? ANSWER: Yes, Thailand, Cambodia and PI much better than HCMC. I have been to Vietnam 10 X in seven years (for work) and the other countries are much better.
I go for Japanese and Chinese girls. Is there a place to find such for an experienced monger. Also, how likely is it to get a threesome. Prices in nam please.
First time back this year and how things change so quickly.
Went to usual shops by airport and couldn't find anything. Spoke to a Korean man and he told me crackdown in the area and there are no more FJ shops there anymore. Just mainly hairdresser salons. Maybe they offer more but they didn't offer.
Went to a bia om on Nguyen van cuu between Nguyen trai and tran hung dao. High quality girls with big breasts as their specialty.
Picked two girls so had both side by side. Went with 3 guys 4 girls and total bill was 1. 8 mill and 200 k tips per girl. Girls asked for 3 mill for overnight. Vietnam is not cheap!
Kinda hard now with no easy one stop shop anymore. You have to either do moto girls or clubs KTVs and the associated costs of that.
First time back this year and how things change so quickly.
Went to usual shops by airport and couldn't find anything. Spoke to a Korean man and he told me crackdown in the area and there are no more FJ shops there anymore. Just mainly hairdresser salons. Maybe they offer more but they didn't offer.
Went to a bia om on Nguyen van cuu between Nguyen trai and tran hung dao. High quality girls with big breasts as their specialty.
Picked two girls so had both side by side. Went with 3 guys 4 girls and total bill was 1. 8 mill and 200 k tips per girl. Girls asked for 3 mill for overnight. Vietnam is not cheap!
Kinda hard now with no easy one stop shop anymore. You have to either do moto girls or clubs KTVs and the associated costs of that.Rokraida,
I am in Thailand now debating if I should leave paradise here and play in Vietnam. I know if Vietnam I have to spend most of my time looking for action unlike Thailand. Maybe farther from airport like district 5 or 7. Might be better?
AmericanThief
11-06-14, 14:24
Girls asked for 3 mill for overnight. Fuck Vietnam, I'm sick of this shit. 3 mil for overnight when the average salary in this country is $182 a month. All these HCMC girls expect money for nothing, or for just being pretty.
I'm sticking with my ugly freebies. At least they are truly GFE and I can go bareback as well.
Fuck Vietnam, I'm sick of this shit. 3 mil for overnight when the average salary in this country is $182 a month. All these HCMC girls expect money for nothing, or for just being pretty.
I'm sticking with my ugly freebies. At least they are truly GFE and I can go bareback as well.That is all the fault of the big swinging dicks throwing money around because it is so dirt cheap to them. All places in the world are getting spoiled.
Don't blame the girls for trying.
Went to a bia om on Nguyen van cuu between Nguyen trai and tran hung dao. High quality girls with big breasts as their specialty.
Picked two girls so had both side by side. Went with 3 guys 4 girls and total bill was 1. 8 mill and 200 k tips per girl. Girls asked for 3 mill for overnight. Vietnam is not cheap!
Ah this is just the free market at work. They probably were asking you guys inflated prices sensing you had money. What was the ST rate?
Funny, one day I was driving over a bridge from D8 to D5 and a girl passed me on a xe om, she was really tall with amazing boobs prominently displayed by a low cut top. Definitely not the typical VN girl. And clearly she was a bia om girl, it was obvious the way she was dressed and made up. I followed behind a bit to see where she ended up going, knowing there were so many karaoke oms just nearby in D5, and turned out it was actually that same place (I think) that you mention. Don't remember the address but I'd be able to recognize it if I passed by again. I never did go visit that place myself.
On many discussion boards guys are complaining that girls are getting greedy and are asking for too much nowadays. I have to disagree. I arrived in early 2007 and during that first year took at least 70 different FL home from places like Apo. (aaahhh, the first year, I am sure many of you have fond memories as well) The going rate was 1 Million LT. Money was negotiated upfront only 50% of the time and though they would sometimes ask for more, it was always agreed to be 1 Mil. If it was not discussed, 1 Mil. Was always accepted without a problem the next morning. At the time there were very little complaints about the girls asking 1 mil.
Fast forward to 2014 and girls at the same places now ask 2 or even 3 Mil. (that is only the asking price, and yes they are a bit more aggressive in that respect now) BUT, they still will go with you in places like Apo for 1.5 to 2 Mil LT without any problem. Yes, if you are fat and over 60 they might not, but I guess that is only fair.
Vietnams official inflation rate for this period was:
2008 – 24%.
2009 – 7%.
2010 – 12%.
2011 – 19%.
2012 – 9%.
2013 – 6%.
When we compound these numbers, 1 Million in 2007 is worth actually 2,040,000 today. In other words, the girls I take out today are cheaper than the ones I was banging in 2007!
Don't get me wrong, I am all against guys on holiday throwing big money around as it makes my hobby whilst living here more expensive. But most of the price rises that we have seen in recent years are not because of the occasional tourist paying $300 for a FL, it is just simple inflation, nothing more.
On many discussion boards guys are complaining that girls are getting greedy and are asking for too much nowadays. I have to disagree. I arrived in early 2007 and during that first year took at least 70 different FL home from places like Apo. (aaahhh, the first year, I am sure many of you have fond memories as well) The going rate was 1 Million LT. Money was negotiated upfront only 50% of the time and though they would sometimes ask for more, it was always agreed to be 1 Mil. If it was not discussed, 1 Mil. Was always accepted without a problem the next morning. At the time there were very little complaints about the girls asking 1 mil.
Fast forward to 2014 and girls at the same places now ask 2 or even 3 Mil. (that is only the asking price, and yes they are a bit more aggressive in that respect now) BUT, they still will go with you in places like Apo for 1.5 to 2 Mil LT without any problem. Yes, if you are fat and over 60 they might not, but I guess that is only fair.
Vietnams official inflation rate for this period was:
2008 24%.
2009 7%.
2010 12%.
2011 19%.
2012 9%.
2013 6%.
When we compound these numbers, 1 Million in 2007 is worth actually 2,040,000 today. In other words, the girls I take out today are cheaper than the ones I was banging in 2007!
Don't get me wrong, I am all against guys on holiday throwing big money around as it makes my hobby whilst living here more expensive. But most of the price rises that we have seen in recent years are not because of the occasional tourist paying $300 for a FL, it is just simple inflation, nothing more.Good info for me, however I am over 64 but not overweight. Can I still be a prospective customer.
OK so just got back from 5 days in vn and here are my experiences.
I eventually found FJ places in D7. Hung Gia and surrounding streets. They are SPA places and you see the girls sitting in the lounges.
Similar to the airport places, you walk in, pick a girl and go upstairs. Do the deed and pay 1. 2 million. They only serve foreigners so only speak English if your Viet kieu.
I went two times at two different places. I counted maybe 4-5 places in the area. They are very very careful even taking the used condom and wrapping it in tissue paper to throw away in another building or bin.
Both the girls I had were tall - 168 cm and great bodies. One even did anal! Great service from both too. It wasn't a quick bang and off you go. They massage you after as well for the full 1 HR.
The bia om places are:
My My.
119 Nguyen Van see you.
Song My.
139 Nguyen Van see you.
I suspect she asked for 3 mil because she didn't want to come with me that night. The 3 mil is high because the mummy gets 1 mil.
Went to BJJ place on Nguyen Phi Khanh. There are like 4 shops there. I got two chic in private room. They double charged me so total cost was:
180 x2 for room.
And wanted 180 per chick tip. I ended up giving 150 k per chick. Was ripped off so never went back again and told the guy I would never come back.
Taxi driver recommended:
252 Ly Thai To. Hot toc place that offers Full Service. Didn't have time to try.
20 NGO Quyen, Quan 5. Apparently full service massage place. No idea on prices.
Went to lush on ladies night Tuesday night. Met a lot of freelancers asking for 3 mil LT 2 mil ST. Most were around 6-7 quality.
Picked up a chick instead and got a freebie the next night with her. All along I was waiting for her to ask for lixi money but seemed like she wanted to get married instead. Didn't see her much after that. Lush you can pick up very very easily girls in the 5-7 range and with a little time you can get freebies.
Went to apo one night and found a hot chick with fake breasts. Asking price was 2 mil short time only and wouldn't do LT. We clicked and had one of the best lays with this one.
A friend gave me a number of a female pimp and was told she has dj freelancers and model freelancers who start from 3 mil. Went to see her and was led on a wild goose chase. We went to a quan nhau and she invited her friends and they just drank and shit and the bill was racking up slowly. She then brings this girl (6) and offers her for 3. 5 mil overnight. I was so pissed off after that I quickly upped and left. Could have been a combo of late night desperation and no girls available. Had I more time, maybe could find some top shelf chicks with the pimp so maybe next time.
Vn not what it used to be. I was in Cambodia the few days before that and it was pretty straightforward. Girl bars where you talk to the girls, girl drinks 3 dollars, barfine 10 dollars, LT 30-50 dollars.
And cambodian service is GFE service. One girl I had stayed with me and was my tour guide.
BUT. Viet girls are one of the hottest around. The bodies and their faces are insane. To get similar 9's in Singapore China etc would cost you double.
Rokraida,
I am in Thailand now debating if I should leave paradise here and play in Vietnam. I know if Vietnam I have to spend most of my time looking for action unlike Thailand. Maybe farther from airport like district 5 or 7. Might be better?Stay in Thailand. At least there you know what's on the menu instead of fooling around asking if this or that is possible. The price differential is not that much now and Thai service is fantastic.
The general feeling in Saigon is police are cracking down and its not so easy anymore. I've talked to a lot of locals and they say its tough now and not so in the open anymore.
OK so just got back from 5 days in vn and here are my experiences.
Super report, thanks. Man this ISG spell corrector sure did mangle your post. I guess it never occurred to the admin that there would be foreign words posted on the ISG. This thing won't even let you write the abbreviation for Identification Card.
That Ly Thai To place is a new one to me, though hopes not high. The NGO Quyen I think is one I've seen but if so the offerings are rough. (not sure though).
In the D7 places, how many girls were there on offer when you went?
I've been to the airport massage places and have only ever seen about 4-8 girls at any one time, though I've talked to others here by PM who said they saw about 20.
Thanks again, really good report in terms of usable info.
On many discussion boards guys are complaining that girls are getting greedy and are asking for too much nowadays. I have to disagree. I arrived in early 2007 and during that first year took at least 70 different FL home from places like Apo. (aaahhh, the first year, I am sure many of you have fond memories as well) The going rate was 1 Million LT. Money was negotiated upfront only 50% of the time and though they would sometimes ask for more, it was always agreed to be 1 Mil. If it was not discussed, 1 Mil. Was always accepted without a problem the next morning. At the time there were very little complaints about the girls asking 1 mil.
Fast forward to 2014 and girls at the same places now ask 2 or even 3 Mil. (that is only the asking price, and yes they are a bit more aggressive in that respect now) BUT, they still will go with you in places like Apo for 1.5 to 2 Mil LT without any problem. Yes, if you are fat and over 60 they might not, but I guess that is only fair.
Vietnams official inflation rate for this period was:
2008 24%.
2009 7%.
2010 12%.
2011 19%.
2012 9%.
2013 6%.
When we compound these numbers, 1 Million in 2007 is worth actually 2,040,000 today. In other words, the girls I take out today are cheaper than the ones I was banging in 2007!
Don't get me wrong, I am all against guys on holiday throwing big money around as it makes my hobby whilst living here more expensive. But most of the price rises that we have seen in recent years are not because of the occasional tourist paying $300 for a FL, it is just simple inflation, nothing more.Just want add some more calculations. 7 years ago the USD-VND rate was 16000, todays it's 21300.1 M at 62 USD vs today 2 M at 94 USD. So it's 6,1 % increase pr year in USD.
IllusionHeart
11-13-14, 09:46
I request inputs from members on how the scene is in HCMC during Christmas leading to New Years eve. Are all bars and adult entertainment places open. Is the women attendance regular or thin. Is it also a vacation time there as well. Would it be a good idea to visit from 24th Dec till 1st Jan or 28th Dec in case want to go to Thailand for new years.
TIA.
I request inputs...You can't be serious, right?
Hey man thanks for the good info! Yes it's getting tough for us residents to find good deals.
But more importantly, good talent!
Last time I scanned thru the d7/ PMH area -- and not long ago. Most of the old places were dark.
Can you remember the names of the 2 places you went?
The bia oms sound interesting. I really wish I could've experienced the one you wrote about a.
Few years ago, in Phu Nhuan. I guess that place is gone now ha?
The 2 places on NVC-- I like the idea of hot girls with big racks. Hey, who doesn't?!
Do they do BBJ in the bar or is just groping, etc. ?
I do see the odd gems at Lush, and can talk them down sometimes. But I just prefer to score.
Non-pros or cheaper girls who speak VN if I can help it.
For example, have you guys ever tried the freelancer girls who put ads online.
The one called danchoi dot org comes to mind.
You send a password by text then they tell you a hotel to meet at. Usually from 400-800 k ST on the sites.
Tried it once and the girl was no-show. But I couldn't respond in decent enough VN when she called.
If anyone has info about these girls, and the procedure to follow, please fill us in.
It has been mentioned previously on this forum somewhere, but the SOP was unclear.
Cheers.
OK so just got back from 5 days in vn and here are my experiences.
I eventually found FJ places in D7. Hung Gia and surrounding streets. They are SPA places and you see the girls sitting in the lounges.
Similar to the airport places, you walk in, pick a girl and go upstairs. Do the deed and pay 1. 2 million. They only serve foreigners so only speak English if your Viet kieu.
I went two times at two different places. I counted maybe 4-5 places in the area. They are very very careful even taking the used condom and wrapping it in tissue paper to throw away in another building or bin.
Both the girls I had were tall - 168 cm and great bodies. One even did anal! Great service from both too. It wasn't a quick bang and off you go. They massage you after as well for the full 1 HR.
The bia om places are:
My My.
119 Nguyen Van see you.
Song My.
139 Nguyen Van see you.
I suspect she asked for 3 mil because she didn't want to come with me that night. The 3 mil is high because the mummy gets 1 mil.
Went to BJJ place on Nguyen Phi Khanh. There are like 4 shops there. I got two chic in private room. They double charged me so total cost was:
180 x2 for room.
And wanted 180 per chick tip. I ended up giving 150 k per chick. Was ripped off so never went back again and told the guy I would never come back.
Taxi driver recommended:
252 Ly Thai To. Hot toc place that offers Full Service. Didn't have time to try.
20 NGO Quyen, Quan 5. Apparently full service massage place. No idea on prices.
Went to lush on ladies night Tuesday night. Met a lot of freelancers asking for 3 mil LT 2 mil ST. Most were around 6-7 quality.
Picked up a chick instead and got a freebie the next night with her. All along I was waiting for her to ask for lixi money but seemed like she wanted to get married instead. Didn't see her much after that. Lush you can pick up very very easily girls in the 5-7 range and with a little time you can get freebies.
Went to apo one night and found a hot chick with fake breasts. Asking price was 2 mil short time only and wouldn't do LT. We clicked and had one of the best lays with this one.
A friend gave me a number of a female pimp and was told she has dj freelancers and model freelancers who start from 3 mil. Went to see her and was led on a wild goose chase. We went to a quan nhau and she invited her friends and they just drank and shit and the bill was racking up slowly. She then brings this girl (6) and offers her for 3. 5 mil overnight. I was so pissed off after that I quickly upped and left. Could have been a combo of late night desperation and no girls available. Had I more time, maybe could find some top shelf chicks with the pimp so maybe next time.
Vn not what it used to be. I was in Cambodia the few days before that and it was pretty straightforward. Girl bars where you talk to the girls, girl drinks 3 dollars, barfine 10 dollars, LT 30-50 dollars.
And cambodian service is GFE service. One girl I had stayed with me and was my tour guide.
BUT. Viet girls are one of the hottest around. The bodies and their faces are insane. To get similar 9's in Singapore China etc would cost you double.
IllusionHeart
11-13-14, 16:48
You can't be serious, right?LOL. No I am not atleast about inputs.
The bia oms mentioned are standard. They are all over HCMC.
But no BBJ action.
The D7 places are around the hung gia street area. There are about 4-5 blocks only. Go up and down and you will know which ones are legit or not. Go inside and ask hot girl or boom boom.
Start from hung Gia 1. These won't be open long. Authorities will close down eventually. They closed down others whith were open 6 months ago.
Hey man thanks for the good info! Yes it's getting tough for us residents to find good deals.
But more importantly, good talent!
Last time I scanned thru the d7/ PMH area -- and not long ago. Most of the old places were dark.
Can you remember the names of the 2 places you went?
The bia oms sound interesting. I really wish I could've experienced the one you wrote about a.
Cheers.
I land in Vietnam. I know to avoid guys not at the taxi stands. I avoided the first two guys that came up to me. I looked at the taxi stand and no one was there? The Second guy who spoke in perfect English told me just to let him know where I wanted to go? I told him a hotel in district 5. He says I know exactly where that is. That is kinda far. About 40 minutes from the city. It costs 500,000 dong. I reluctantly agreed. He took me there. I latter find out he over charged me big time. But this is Vietnam and that is expected. After he drops me off I decide to stay at another hotel in the area. I check in and the cost is 400,000 a night. There was actually a hot toc next door. The hotel address is called Bonita hotel - 88 b Hung Vuong, P. 9,Q,5 TP. HCM phone (08) 3830-4896 as a reference point. Maybe ISG will edit out the contact info and number but I gave it.
1. The hot toc literally next door to my hotel looks like a garage. I walk in and 3 guys walk up to me as say massage? I say yes. The tallest of them say you don't want a massage you want boom boom right? I say yes. We walk up two flight of stairs to this room that has like 18 beautiful girls. I mean beautiful! I ask how much? The guy says 1 mill 300,000. I tell him too much money and walk out. They let me leave and did not try to stop me. I get next door back to the front of my hotel and decide to just try it. I go back over and tell the guys ok. They walk me up again and I pick the girl I want. I only had 500,000 bills because I did not have time to get change. I know never to give especially Vietnamese nothing but exact change. So before I did I tell him you give me back 200,000 right. He says yes. I give him the money and starts calling the girl over. I am asking about my change. He says ok ok as he walks me to the room with the girl and leaves. I know what just happened. I tell the girl the best I can in sign language that I am going back after him to get me 200,000. I go back down and find him. He is by the girls they all start laughing when they realize what he did. He reluctantly gives me my 200,000 back. Now he has an attitude toward me because I would not let him rip me off. F- him. So I go back up to the room with the girl. She undresses. Oh my god. She is exactly what I was looking for. 20 years old, white skin, double dd's, and a incredible bubble ass. She looked like one of those Japanese anime cartoon girls. To make a long story short. She basically ordered me around and would not allow me to to what I wanted to take my time. She rushed me the whole time. Too bad because her pussy was so tight. I just could not enjoy myself through this fast food experience. We shower and leave the room. We take the elevator downstairs. One guy I never seen before ask me how it was? I give a face expression that show my dissatisfaction. She sees this and is wondering what I mean no good? I then say she's number 1! Because she was telling me that as she undressed. I get back down to the garage looking area to go outside. I pass the 3 original guys. The one that tried to steal my 200,000. As I walk by in the best English he could he said something like "get out of here" Then calls me a girl" Basically because it was the only English word he could say that he knows I would understand. Too bad.
2. Now there is a street "almost" facing my hotel. I did not get the name but this is the only massage place visible and in the area for that matter. So it should be easy to find. Ticket is 180,000. I ask to pick the girl. There was about 12 to choose from. All about 6 and 7's and one 9. I pick the 9. She is also about 20. She walks me to the room. The room has a window on the door. She tells me to undress and get in the hot tub. She washes me spending a lot of time on my dick. Before I step out of the tub she kisses my dick. I go over to the massage table and lay on my stomach. She does her massage she lays on me and kisses my neck then tells me to turn over. I do She starts her massage. Then starts to rub my dick and ask me if I want her to suck it? I ask how much and she says 1 million no sex only BJ there. I tell her too much and offer 300,000. She says no playfully she says that's too little. As she starts licking and sucking my dick to give me a sample of her skills. I offer 500 then we finally agree to 700,000. She does some type of gold fish kiss suck all over my body. I can't put it into words because I have never experienced anything like it. It was the best BBBJ I have ever got in my entire life. Now she only gave me 7 minutes for the BBBJ. Then telling me in a nice way time was almost up. I should have gotten her cell number but I did not. I was just assuming maybe all the girls there did the exactly same service. This was my mistake. This place did not have a business card. I also noticed most hot tocs don't have card as well. Anyway, for 820,000 total it was definitely worth it for me.
3. I found one other hot toc in the area about 7 minute walk from my hotel but only 5 girls there. They was no one above a 6 there so I passed.
The next day I left my hotel. I had my hotel guy call a taxi for me and translate to taxi driver to make sure he takes me to district 3! Well I don't know if there was a miscommunication or what but the taxi drops me off in district 1. So I get a hotel thinking I am in district 3. As I walk to my hotel I see a hooker leaving the hotel on her motor bike. She speaks decent English and comes up to talk to me immediately asking for my number and asking if she can call me latter. She was about 26 years old. I rate her a 7. I check in leave my hotel to go out searching. This hotel was 450,000 a night.
District 1- I find another hot toc the street it is on is Nguyen Thien Thuat P. 1 Q. 3 TP. HCM. This whole street is about a 8 minute walk. Two hot toks on this street. One is legit with guys getting a hair cut and the other is filled with about 12 woman with cleavage everywhere. If you walk this street you can decide which is which. I asked for a business card and they said they don't have a card. I was going to take a picture of the address with my I-phone but when I pulled out my phone I noticed guys like wolfs looking at me and and my intuition says put my phone away before it gets grabbed. Anyway, I went to this same place 3 times. The cost is 500,000 for all inclusive house and BBBJ, massage. You just pay the girl. Two of the 3 girls offered me FS. I agreed to one. The girls was very sweet but rushed. Another girl there blew me for like 20 minutes and did not complain. Very nice feel and environment.
4. I also went to Saigon foot massage 21/16 Nguyen Thien Thuat p2 Q3 TP. Ho Chi Minh. This place is legit. I did not try vip room which I am sure I could have got a HJ or BBBJ. The lady massaged me in a room with 3 other guys. Amazing massage. She was mounted on top of me and even humped me a few times makes sex noises. Then when she finished the massage and I was siting up and she was massaging my neck. She did this thing where she had her breasts rolling around my back head. Really nice!
5. Massage Festible place- at 31 Cao Thang Q3 Thanh Pho Ho Chi Minh tel (84-8) 38.343. 265 - ISG might edit out there phone number but I gave it. So I go in and price was something like 200 for the massage. My ATM cut me off so I only had 600,000 left in my wallet. So I was a little worried. As soon as I follow the guy to the room he tells me to undress, take everything off and lock in locker. I do he then leads me to a scrub room and there was no girl in the room but a guy that scrubs my back as I'm naked. I felt very uncomfortable a guy doing this to me but he never told me to flip over. I finish this and he comes over with a white tip slip. Tips start at 100.000. So massage and this tip. Now I only have 300,000 left and I did not even get to the girl yet. A guy comes to me and says you want beautiful girl right. I said yes. Now I am kinda freaking out. I have 300,000 left. How much is the girl going to want? I am wearing their robe. If the girl freaks out about money or other guys want me to tip for something what am I going to do? So anyway, I am lead to the massage room and a girl that is I say 25 years old. But she says she is 22. She does speak some English. She gives me and incredible massage cracking my back 3 times. She then oils up my back. She stands on my back and starts sliding with her feet up and down my back like a slip and slide using a ceiling pole for balance. I never ever experienced anything like it. It puts the Thai massage to shame. This was absolutely the best massage I ever had in my entire life! Then come the end. She grabs my dick under the boxers they gave me and asks me if I want this taken care of? I ask how much and she says up to me. ? I tell her 200,000. She nicely says no that is not money here. I tell her about the ATM and how it won't let me take out any more money. She totally understood and was super cool. I told her I would give her the 200 anyway if she lets me play with her tits. She agreed. This place is HJ only. There is a window on the door. No sex or BBBJ. I asked her how much guys usually tip for HJ and she says 400-500. We hugs and I left.
In Vietnam when I was in district 5 there will be guys on the street that will ask you if you want a girl. The guy will call different girls and you can choose. The guy will ask for 1 million. I had one guy do this with me. I tried to talk him down but he says look I have to pay hotel, the girl and then money for me. He told me he could have have a girl there is 10 minutes. Now if I don't like the girl he would call another one but if he calls 4 different girls. I am guessing it could be 40 minutes of waiting. The voice in the back of my head told me don't do it so I did not.
With touts and short time hotels. Don't give them all the money to split up. Because once you give him the money he spits it with the girl and he is gone. The girl does not need you anyone so how is service going to be. The way I would do it is. Give him his cut personally. Have the girl pay the short time room if possible and you pay the girl. Afterwards if possible.
Vietnam is a cool city. It is a rush high speed city. Rush is culture. Not like the slow paced scene of Thailand. Vietnam woman are incredibly beautiful and look much cleaner than Thai woman. Only saying this because I was in Thailand this same trip.
Vietnamese service is rushed. First I think the girls worry about police. Second rush is just part of the culture.
The ATM's only let you take out 2 million at a time. Which is nothing. So you have to keep putting in you card to get more money out. With me anyway by the end of the night the ATM's would not let me take more money out till the next day. I called my back and they said it was not them and it was Vietnam atms. So I don't know if they limit how much money you can take out a day or what.
Mutant chicken posted some pictures he copied and pasted on here of Viet woman. I would say that the pictures are accurate about the quality of woman. But those pictures did not do the girls justice. Many girls are much better looking than that. I have even seen at coffee shops which are everywhere girls that wait to sit with customers. They were incredibly beautiful. Possible you can talk which them to meet you at a short time room. But, at these place that are open door. I did not see any foreigners. I don't know how the local guys will fell about you there? In China my experience was they hate it. But Vietnam I don't know. I did not try picking up the coffee shop girls.
I will definitely go back to Vietnam next year. You want to go with page that has some things translated. Like you want no rush sex ect. If you can speak some Vietnamese I think it will help with service but that language is really hard to get.
IllusionHeart
11-16-14, 18:27
In Vietnam ................... I think it will help with service but that language is really hard to get.
Thanks Tomsf for the detailed FR. I was in Bangkok in first week of November and really liked the availability and ease of picking up women there or going to incall locations. Have a 3 day break coming up in December and was contemplating visiting HCMC specifically. Would you recommend me visiting HCMC or instead go to BKK as air fares are similar. I prefer FS and if possible LT and am not much in massages with BBJ or HJ only. Additionally any specific things I should keep in mind if I do visit. Would 3 nights be good enough or more....
TIA.
Thanks Tomsf for the detailed FR. I was in Bangkok in first week of November and really liked the availability and ease of picking up women there or going to incall locations. Have a 3 day break coming up in December and was contemplating visiting HCMC specifically. Would you recommend me visiting HCMC or instead go to BKK as air fares are similar. I prefer FS and if possible LT and am not much in massages with BBJ or HJ only. Additionally any specific things I should keep in mind if I do visit. Would 3 nights be good enough or more....
TIA.I would recommend Thailand definitely for you December FS trip. Once in your life you should check out Vietnam though. The woman's beauty there is really impressive. To pull off long time in Vietnam it is definitely doable. But its just not as easy to find girls like it is for long time like in Thailand.
The ATM's only let you take out 2 million at a time.Next time try to find an Agribank ATM. According to the Lonely Planet it lets you take out up to 6 million at a time.
Yesterday I took out 3 million. Next time I will try to get more.
IllusionHeart
11-17-14, 05:28
I would recommend Thailand definitely for you December FS trip. Once in your life you should check out Vietnam though. The woman's beauty there is really impressive. To pull off long time in Vietnam it is definitely doable. But its just not as easy to find girls like it is for long time like in Thailand.Thank you Tom. Will keep your suggestions in mind if I decide to go ahead. To be honest I would want to experience some of the beauties. Initial positive engagements in singapore with viets have led me to think of visiting at least once in near future.
I will be in HCM next week for my 1st time in Vietnam.
I would love to do a ffm as I've never had one, I have been reading through various threads and getting distracted all over the place.
Bear in mind that I speak no Vietnamese. Nothing.
Is my best bet to find a hottoc and try to get the girls number & ask if she has a friend?
Or a hostess bar.
Or something else?
I think a good few hours or overnight so I can make the most of it.
I'll be based in D1 but I don't mind going somewhere else since D1 seems not to be the place to be.
Could anyone give me a couple of recommendations.
Thanks
AmericanThief
11-22-14, 10:39
Yes you can have a threesome. Bargirls will do it. Not hot toc. Send me a pm if you want an arrangement.
I will be in HCM next week for my 1st time in Vietnam.
I would love to do a ffm as I've never had one, I have been reading through various threads and getting distracted all over the place.
Bear in mind that I speak no Vietnamese. Nothing.
Is my best bet to find a hottoc and try to get the girls number & ask if she has a friend?
Or a hostess bar.
Or something else?
I think a good few hours or overnight so I can make the most of it.
I'll be based in D1 but I don't mind going somewhere else since D1 seems not to be the place to be.
Could anyone give me a couple of recommendations.
ThanksJoJo,
Because of the rush rush culture in Vietnam. The most realistic outcome out of what will happen. Is you have 3 girls all at the same time trying too get you to cum as fast as possible. You cum in 5 minutes with one girl. Now everyone gets out of bed to leave because you cum. You will not be able to explain to them to what you expect. It is hard enough to get even 10 minutes of FS from 1 girl. I could not imagine 3 girls rushing me at the same time. LOL.
Vietnam has the most beautiful Asian girls you could imagine. Getting a 3 some should be very easy. But getting a 3 some and having these girls stay over night or a few hours. I would love to hear if you could pull that off. Please bring a translate device or at least have written down what you want to say to the girl. Otherwise you will have a middle man than tells the girl whatever just to get your money. The middle man will disappear and the girl did not agree to what you wanted.
JoJo,
Because of the rush rush culture in Vietnam. The most realistic outcome out of what will happen. Is you have 3 girls all at the same time trying too get you to cum as fast as possible. You cum in 5 minutes with one girl. Now everyone gets out of bed to leave because you cum. You will not be able to explain to them to what you expect. It is hard enough to get even 10 minutes of FS from 1 girl. I could not imagine 3 girls rushing me at the same time. LOL.
Vietnam has the most beautiful Asian girls you could imagine. Getting a 3 some should be very easy. But getting a 3 some and having these girls stay over night or a few hours. I would love to hear if you could pull that off. Please bring a translate device or at least have written down what you want to say to the girl. Otherwise you will have a middle man than tells the girl whatever just to get your money. The middle man will disappear and the girl did not agree to what you wanted.Congratulations on yet another entertaining and informative post, and a fresh take on a Vietnamese "threesome"!
Ikks.
P.S. Should a threesome be called a "boom boom boom" as there are 3 girls to "bang bang bang"?
JoJo,
Because of the rush rush culture in Vietnam. The most realistic outcome out of what will happen. Is you have 3 girls all at the same time trying too get you to cum as fast as possible. You cum in 5 minutes with one girl. Now everyone gets out of bed to leave because you cum. You will not be able to explain to them to what you expect. It is hard enough to get even 10 minutes of FS from 1 girl. I could not imagine 3 girls rushing me at the same time. LOL.
Vietnam has the most beautiful Asian girls you could imagine. Getting a 3 some should be very easy. But getting a 3 some and having these girls stay over night or a few hours. I would love to hear if you could pull that off. Please bring a translate device or at least have written down what you want to say to the girl. Otherwise you will have a middle man than tells the girl whatever just to get your money. The middle man will disappear and the girl did not agree to what you wanted.Uhm, isn't a 3 some with 2 girls and 1 man? Or 1 girl and 2 men if you like.
Although of course 3 girls having fun together is also a 3 some.
Next time try to find an Agribank ATM. According to the Lonely Planet it lets you take out up to 6 million at a time.
Yesterday I took out 3 million. Next time I will try to get more.I could not take out more than 3 million at the Agribank ATM.
MutantChicken
11-23-14, 08:55
I could not take out more than 3 million at the Agribank ATM.There are a limited Citibank ATM the allow 8 mill there is also eximbank only 2 mill but no ATM fee. HSBC allows 5 mill I think.
JoJo,
Because of the rush rush culture in Vietnam. The most realistic outcome out of what will happen. Is you have 3 girls all at the same time trying too get you to cum as fast as possible. You cum in 5 minutes with one girl. Now everyone gets out of bed to leave because you cum. You will not be able to explain to them to what you expect. It is hard enough to get even 10 minutes of FS from 1 girl. I could not imagine 3 girls rushing me at the same time. LOL.
Vietnam has the most beautiful Asian girls you could imagine. Getting a 3 some should be very easy. But getting a 3 some and having these girls stay over night or a few hours. I would love to hear if you could pull that off. Please bring a translate device or at least have written down what you want to say to the girl. Otherwise you will have a middle man than tells the girl whatever just to get your money. The middle man will disappear and the girl did not agree to what you wanted.Yep.
After talking to Mutant Chicken I'm not going to bother with a 3 some in hcm. I'll wait for my next trip to Thailand / Philippians.
I'll just wander around until I find a hot toc or a bar girl.
Thanks
Uhm, isn't a 3 some with 2 girls and 1 man? Or 1 girl and 2 men if you like.
Although of course 3 girls having fun together is also a 3 some.Correct, I misread. 2 girls one guy.
Yep.
After talking to Mutant Chicken I'm not going to bother with a 3 some in hcm. I'll wait for my next trip to Thailand / Philippians.
I'll just wander around until I find a hot toc or a bar girl.
Thanks.There is another site which has a list of bars and parlors but it doesn't mention the recent cleanup so I have no idea if it is full of crap now.
Would anyone give me a quick recommendation for a hot toc and also an enjoyable boom boom massage.
The other place also said that the bar girls will only leave the premises after 12. Is that correct?
I'm staying in D1 but I'm fine with a taxi. But I would love a map reference before I went.
Thanks
There are a limited Citibank ATM the allow 8 mill there is also eximbank only 2 mill but no ATM fee. HSBC allows 5 mill I think.Thanks, I'll check them out.
Correct, I misread. 2 girls one guy.There's quite a distance between a good 3-some and a terrible one, and terrible is vastly more common. Probably very easy to set up a terrible one. Just make an offer and they'll probably agree. Decent performance is another thing completely, and very unlikely unless the girls have good training or practice at it. And very good rapport together. This is either rare or non-existent in vietnam.
But I'll PM you with a lead that has at least a shred of hope in it.
Yep.
After talking to Mutant Chicken I'm not going to bother with a 3 some in hcm. I'll wait for my next trip to Thailand / Philippians.
I'll just wander around until I find a hot toc or a bar girl.
ThanksI have to agree, some of the best threesome experiences I have had were with Filipino girls; I have not tried a threesome in Thailand so maybe I am missing the best option. I did manage a threesome with two Viet women in Singapore once. It was not bad, but not great. I think Viet women are shy and not as open minded. When I was with the two Viet women, I was basically just taking turns between them. Whereas, Filipino women are so pleasing and you can be banging one doggie while the other is kissing and rubbing up against you.
On the other hand, I think Viet women are some of the best sexually speaking for one on one. Once they relax and open up with you that is. In Vietnam, I have never had to P4P as I managed to hookup with women on every visit, sometimes without trying. For instance, I was there once on business and a very well educated women I met offered to show me around. On the afternoon of the second day, while in my hotel room, she asked why I didn't like her. I was surprised, I had no idea she was attracted to me. I had just been professional, nice and was thankful she wanted to show me around. But, since she gave the green light, I had her naked in no time showing her how much I liked her. If you are nice and talkative, you can easily meet some single women. There are lots of horny single women in their 30's.
Jojo7,
Your first posting for assistance on 3-some states that you have never done it. If that is the case, then I suggest you try it at the Eden Club in Bangkok or similar places where they specialize in 3-some. Pick one girl you like, then ask her to pick the other girl. She will pick someone she likes and is comfortable with. Then you will have a great experience which will include girl-on-girl action.
In most cases, as some posters have said, 3-some means banging one girl at a time while the other girls waits or may just caress you. Once you come, it's over unless you clearly specified during the negotiation AND THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND your terms.
I once picked two girls in Phnom Penh. While I was banging one girl, the other girl hid behind the bed sheet and vice versa. The best part was when we all went to sleep. I had one girl in each arm.
I had another experience in Mexico. Every time I change pussy, I had to change condom which ruined the pleasure.
Yes, in the Philippines, the girls are more willing to do it but only because of the money. To really enjoy 3-some, at least one of the girls must be bisexual.
My 2 cents.
SteelBaton
01-29-15, 06:53
Recently the WeChat network has really increased in HCMC and using it to hook up with girls has worked pretty well for me. WeChat, I assume most members know, is an iPhone or Android App.
1. If you don't already have WeChat you need to try it. Here's how to set it up:
- Download the app and you can set up an account very easily. Depending on your location you may have to link your account to your phone number, but in some locations you can link it to an e-mail address. So set up a one time e-mail address at some place like Hotmail or gmail or one of the less well know free e-mail services. If you must link to your mobile number then set up the account when you have a prepaid SIM card which you can buy in most countries for a few bucks.
- Pick a WeChat I'd: I suggest that you pick something short with mostly numbers. This helps because you'll want to give this to people sometimes and in places like China, Cambodia, Thailand, etc where some less educated people (I. E. Hookers) may not be fluent in the roman alphabet. In places like this numbers are much easier. Also, once you chose an I'd you can't change it. The rest of your profile you can change as many times as you like, but your WeChat I'd is permanent unless you set up a new account.
- Set up the rest of your Profile by putting some picture of a handsome dude as your Profile Photo. If you want you can put a phrase in the "What's Up" section. You might say "Looking for Love" or "Hoping to play today" something that will give potential girls the clue that you might be a monger. Or just leave it blank.
2. Now you have WeChat. When you are ready to hunt you have to do a couple more things:
- Go to Settings / General / Features and enable "People Nearby".
- Enable locations in your General settings.
3. Now go to "Discover"People Nearby".
Select to see only females and you should see dozens of girls and photos appear. All less than 2 kms (usually). Most of these will be civilians but some will have something that gives you a clue that they might be in the P4 P business. There are some mamasans with photos of their girls (many are fake photos) and some will be individual girls looking for a little extra money. Depending on what you say in your "What's Up" profile message girls will start contacting you.
Using this method I hooked up with a couple of agents who can supply lots of girls. PM me if you'd some names for this in HCMC. But, as above, don't necessarily trust that any photos you receive will be accurate. Some are, often in China they are, but in Saigon many will be fake. Still if you can get a mamas an then she will have a place where she can give you a line up of girls and you can choose in the flesh and blood.
I'll post another message with some tips and experiences.
Happy Cnut Hunting!
AmericanThief
01-30-15, 14:13
Recently the WeChat network has really increased in HCMC and using it to hook up with girls has worked pretty well for me. WeChat, I assume most members know, is an iPhone or Android App.
1. If you don't already have WeChat you need to try it. Here's how to set it up:
- Download the app and you can set up an account very easily. Depending on your location you may have to link your account to your phone number, but in some locations you can link it to an e-mail address. So set up a one time e-mail address at some place like Hotmail or gmail or one of the less well know free e-mail services. If you must link to your mobile number then set up the account when you have a prepaid SIM card which you can buy in most countries for a few bucks.
- Pick a WeChat I'd: I suggest that you pick something short with mostly numbers. This helps because you'll want to give this to people sometimes and in places like China, Cambodia, Thailand, etc where some less educated people (I. E. Hookers) may not be fluent in the roman alphabet. In places like this numbers are much easier. Also, once you chose an I'd you can't change it. The rest of your profile you can change as many times as you like, but your WeChat I'd is permanent unless you set up a new account.
- Set up the rest of your Profile by putting some picture of a handsome dude as your Profile Photo. If you want you can put a phrase in the "What's Up" section. You might say "Looking for Love" or "Hoping to play today" something that will give potential girls the clue that you might be a monger. Or just leave it blank.
2. Now you have WeChat. When you are ready to hunt you have to do a couple more things:
- Go to Settings / General / Features and enable "People Nearby".
- Enable locations in your General settings.
3. Now go to "Discover"People Nearby".
Select to see only females and you should see dozens of girls and photos appear. All less than 2 kms (usually). Most of these will be civilians but some will have something that gives you a clue that they might be in the P4 P business. There are some mamasans with photos of their girls (many are fake photos) and some will be individual girls looking for a little extra money. Depending on what you say in your "What's Up" profile message girls will start contacting you.
Using this method I hooked up with a couple of agents who can supply lots of girls. PM me if you'd some names for this in HCMC. But, as above, don't necessarily trust that any photos you receive will be accurate. Some are, often in China they are, but in Saigon many will be fake. Still if you can get a mamas an then she will have a place where she can give you a line up of girls and you can choose in the flesh and blood.
I'll post another message with some tips and experiences.
Happy Cnut Hunting!You can do this. I've done it, and I've learned that the photos are always fake. A totally different girl shows up. I fight and argue with the cyber pimp, but nothing I can do. They deny everything. There is no accountability as you have a stranger now in your room and they now know where you're staying so you pay as not to cause trouble to ensure your future safety especially if you live here (my fault for not getting a ST room), but I didn't get what I ordered. Go ahead and fuck her anyway since there's nothing you can do, and she complains a lot and doesn't do this and won't do that. Waste of time.
There are also other dangers involved in this kind of procurement that I won't get into, but I won't be taking anymore wechat girls.
This might be fine for tourist, but as a resident I can't do it anymore.
I suspect in the future there will be a lot of scams and frauds through this kind of deal. It might be fine for now, but it won't last.
Its best to stick with bar girls, massage shops, hot tocs, etc. Places that are "legit" and accountable for the girls' performance.
A wechat girl is nothing more than a cyber motorbike chick.
Jojo7,
Yes, in the Philippines, the girls are more willing to do it but only because of the money. To really enjoy 3-some, at least one of the girls must be bisexual.
My 2 cents.I agree. I have loads of fun everytime I go to Edens in Bangkok. And the absolute best way to experience a 3-some in the Philippines is to find a girl who loves pussy as much as you do yourself. I have done this many times. Not sure if it works in Vietnam.
I'm kind of a gym nut and hate to do without for too long. Anyone know of a decent gym anywhere in Ho Chi Minh City?
Yella Man.
Vagabundo69
02-02-15, 20:06
I'm kind of a gym nut and hate to do without for too long. Anyone know of a decent gym anywhere in Ho Chi Minh City?
Yella Man.I just arrived in Saigon, and had the same question.
Scoped out a few today - 2 are quite nice but insanely expensive. California which is around 28 LE Lai near the center.
And Vincharm (or something like that. You can likely find it with that name on the internet), which is in a mall close to the opera house.
That second one in particular looked beautiful.
But they both want on the order of $20+ just for a day. Insane for here.
I found a third, called The Hoi Vien, at 17 Pham Viet Chanh. Opposite end of the spectrum:
Only $1. 50 for the day (30,000 dong), but was small, run down, and machines actually looked on the verge of dangerous.
I'll keep looking. Amazed that no one's been able to direct me yet to something decent and reasonable.
Maybe there's a biz opportunity!
I just arrived in Saigon, and had the same question.
I found a third, called The Hoi Vien, at 17 Pham Viet Chanh. Opposite end of the spectrum:
Only $1. 50 for the day (30,000 dong), but was small, run down, and machines actually looked on the verge of dangerous.
I'll keep looking. Amazed that no one's been able to direct me yet to something decent and reasonable.
Maybe there's a biz opportunity!It does sound like a business opportunity! My friends set one up in the Philippines even with all the corruption. Thanks for the info. Keep me posted if you find anything decent.
YM.
Brothers,
I arrived in HCMC today. I need to change USD to Duong. I walked all over Pham Ngu Lao and the city center (Ben Thanh Market-Rex Hotel-Intercontinental area) but could not find a single money changer like in Singapore or Angeles City. Where are they? I want to get a good exchange rate.
I asked my hotel. Guess what they told me? I can change with them. Yeah, right.
Please tell me where to go and what is a good rate. I am very low on Duongs. Thanks.
Fast Eddie 48
02-03-15, 22:59
Brothers,
I arrived in HCMC today. I need to change USD to Duong. I walked all over Pham Ngu Lao and the city center (Ben Thanh Market-Rex Hotel-Intercontinental area) but could not find a single money changer like in Singapore or Angeles City. Where are they? I want to get a good exchange rate.
I asked my hotel. Guess what they told me? I can change with them. Yeah, right.
Please tell me where to go and what is a good rate. I am very low on Duongs. Thanks.To Funman.
There are a few Money charger at HBT near the Caravelle hotel and near the post office that I find one have the best rate, you can change at the airport I change 20 usd at the airport first for taxi.
Fast eddie 48.
AmericanThief
02-04-15, 10:57
I just arrived in Saigon, and had the same question.
Scoped out a few today - 2 are quite nice but insanely expensive. California which is around 28 LE Lai near the center.
And Vincharm (or something like that. You can likely find it with that name on the internet), which is in a mall close to the opera house.
That second one in particular looked beautiful.
But they both want on the order of $20+ just for a day. Insane for here.
I found a third, called The Hoi Vien, at 17 Pham Viet Chanh. Opposite end of the spectrum:
Only $1. 50 for the day (30,000 dong), but was small, run down, and machines actually looked on the verge of dangerous.
I'll keep looking. Amazed that no one's been able to direct me yet to something decent and reasonable.
Maybe there's a biz opportunity!Yeah, like California Fitness hasn't done that already.
Mutant Chicken,
I was going to message you, but your box is full. Please clean it when you get a chance.
W
Strong Bad
02-16-15, 20:45
Do you guys enjoy overnight with girls? Or do you prefer short time? I really hate it when you have an overnight with a girl, and she snores really loud.
AmericanThief
02-22-15, 13:36
I really hate it when you have an overnight with a girl, and she snores really loud.How can we take this question seriously? This guy has never BF'd a LT in his life.
Strong Bad
02-22-15, 23:25
How can we take this question seriously? This guy has never BF'd a LT in his life.Women do snore, I might not have had a LT in Vietnam, but I have had LT before, and I have had women who snore.
Hi!
I have to visit HCMC next month and I wonder is there any Hotel in HCMC like the Fortuna Hotel in Hanoi? What I looking for is hotel bar or night club full with girls who can go back with you to your hotel room for ST / LT. I read 10-20 pages of the HCMC forum but can't find anything like the Fortuna or Hanoi hotel offer in Hanoi.
AmericanThief
03-01-15, 15:02
I can only think of Gossip inside the Dai Nam hotel. High end, model type girls. Cannot vouch for services offered.
I would advise using the Agoda maps and find Apocalypse Now nightclub and then get a hotel next door. There are over 20 hotels in a 1 block radius. Over 50 hotels in 2 blocks. Plenty of pros available for ST there.
If you insists on 4 and 5 stars there's even a Sheraton about 2 minutes away. That area around Dong Koi is quite cool, upscale with a good vibe if you can afford it. Even some lady bars around there, and nice dinning too.
Neurosynth
03-01-15, 23:26
(Apocalypse Now nightclub? That's beyond weird!)
(Apocalypse Now nightclub? That's beyond weird!)Why is that weird?
He probably means its a name of a famous movie that had a brutal war set in the country that has a club named after it that has overpriced ugly hookers among other things.
Sorry for the late post. I went to Angeles City and Kuala Lumpur after HCMC, had so much fun that I did not have time to post, then got really busy with work after I returned home to USA. Anyway, I also found two money changers on De Tham Ave just north of Bui Vien Ave in the Pham Ngu Lao area.
To Funman.
There are a few Money charger at HBT near the Caravelle hotel and near the post office that I find one have the best rate, you can change at the airport I change 20 usd at the airport first for taxi.
Fast eddie 48.
He probably means its a name of a famous movie that had a brutal war set in the country that has a club named after it that has overpriced ugly hookers among other things.Ok that makes sense. There used to also be a Heart of Darkness bar here, still is one in Phnom Penh.
Hi!
I have to visit HCMC next month and I wonder is there any Hotel in HCMC like the Fortuna Hotel in Hanoi? What I looking for is hotel bar or night club full with girls who can go back with you to your hotel room for ST / LT. I read 10-20 pages of the HCMC forum but can't find anything like the Fortuna or Hanoi hotel offer in Hanoi.If I recall correctly Apocalypse Now is on Thi Sach. I pulled a few from there. They used to want $50 but now some want $150 for the night. She was pretty hot, though. Try Smiley's, too.
AmericanThief
03-08-15, 02:44
Try Smiley's, too.I thought Smiley's was raided and closed last year. When did it reopen?
I thought Smiley's was raided and closed last year. When did it reopen?I don' think that was one that was closed. There was a bar called Pulse kind of near there that did get shut down.
I always hear about this Smiley's place but I have to say, every few months or so I'll revisit a place just to see if there's been turnover and any new prospects in the place. This is one bar that just never ever has what I'd call a hot one. For years. Older, chubby, short, not pretty. It's always a collection of 3-5 (on scale of 1-10) to my eyes.
91 was the best for hot ones. The place that used to be called Bin Bin seems to currently be the only one that gets hot ones, unless there's something I'm missing. And in that bar it seems like there's a policy (with me at least) to not allow any kind of friskiness or groping in the bar. If they want customers to take them out, it seems like it would be necessary to get the customer in the mood first, not just rely on their looks alone. But no.
I haven't been to any of these places in over a month. They seem pretty dreadful right now.
Just realized we've only got a two hour layover in HCM coming from Cambodia and connecting to Nha Trang, carrying visa letters and checking-in bags, is this sufficient amount of time to clear customs and transfer? Thanks.
AmericanThief
03-10-15, 12:30
Just realized we've only got a two hour layover in HCM coming from Cambodia and connecting to Nha Trang, carrying visa letters and checking-in bags, is this sufficient amount of time to clear customs and transfer? Thanks.It should be enough time, but Visa on arrival even with the letter can be busy and take time. If you can get your visa in Nha Trang that would be better.
It should be enough time, but Visa on arrival even with the letter can be busy and take time. If you can get your visa in Nha Trang that would be better.I'm going to Nha Trang.
Sup fellas,
My FR for Saigon. It was my first time in Vietnam, but being part Vietnamese, it gave me a nostalgic feeling of when I grew up in a part Vietnamese household. Unfortunately I was there during the Tet holiday, and I didn't have time to monger until the very last day, which was the night of new year's eve. This turns out to be an unwise decision. The day before I decided to try out a Hot Toc. If you have never done this, every man must do it in Vietnam at least once. It's a great form of pampering, short of the saunas in Macau, but for 1/12 the price. I went to the one near the pham ngu lao park close to times square, with a giant neon sign that advertises as a "Beauty Salon". Once I walk in there, there's about 7 beautiful women, all rated 7 or above, in tiny skirts and very low cut tube tops, all of the same uniform. Just from the look of it, I thought I was in one of those "special massage" places. All the women got up, said Hello, and offered a massage. I turned down the offers for a massage, but instead opted for a haircut, shave, facial, hairwash, and a scalp and shoulder massage. They all seemed bummed, and went back to their business by browsing their phones. The haircut and shave was done by a man, and he did a pretty good job. The girl that did the rest was this very young and beautiful sweet girl, who looked almost like one of my ex-girlfriends (the one I let get away). She spoke very good English, and we had a nice conversation while she pampered me. The whole thing cost 260000 VND, and I tipped the woman and man 120000 VND each. I know how these places run, the workers only work on tips. Wasn't too sure if I had opted for the massage, if extra services would be offered, I read that most of these places are legit. If there was a hint to it, I would have came back the next day and sessioned with the girl. But it didn't seem like it was available.
So the night of new years eve, I had been offered boom boom by most of the mototaxi drivers. I walked around and found one guy, and told him I wanted boom boom. He sits me down next to another guy to negotiate. This should have been the first red flag that popped into my head. The original guy spoke zero English, and was pretty much just a crony for the guy I was negotiating with. I told them that I was Vietnamese (which I'm half) to try to maybe get a better deal and not be screwed over. I should have known, the southern Vietnamese can't be trusted, history should have told me that. Anyways, they bring me an old and overweight chick, who was literally eating on a piece of fried chicken when she arrived. I told him no. Bring me another. They bring me another, and this time she was slimmer, younger, and better looking, but at most, she was a 6. I said no, I want someone beautiful. He tells me he can take me to a place where I can look at 7 in one place, and I agree to it. So he takes me on his mototaxi and brings me to some far off place in district 6, maybe on the edge of district 5. It looked shady and seedy, but he called out to some girl on a mototaxi and she led us to a motel. The street that it was on, had a good amount of WGs on it, and they looked pretty good, but this hustler tried to hustle me. He asked me if this girl was okay, I told him "do you have any other girls I can look at? He takes me to the hotel, tells me to give him 1500000 VND. At first I thought this was a ridiculous price, but given the day and holiday, I was going to have to pay a high premium. I didn't want to session with the girl once I got a good up close look at her. The hotel only wanted 500000 VND for the girl and hotel, and this weasel was going to pocket the rest. I made a big fuss and told him "you've wasted my f**king time" and stormed out. He followed me and said what about the other girls that came in, who was pretty hot, but I'm not going to get ripped off so easily. I gave him 20000 VND and told him to go f**k off. But the girl followed me on the mototaxi, and when I tried to take another mototaxi elsewhere, she talked to the guy in vietnamese, I wasn't sure if she told him all about what just transpired, but I thought she told him to take me back to the hotel to renegotiate, if he did that, I would start to get violent, which no side really wants. Good thing he took me back to district 1.
I found another mototaxi who offered boom boom, but I told him I'm not getting on unless he can make sure he can find me boom boom. He guarantees me this and says it's 50000 VND for the ride. He takes me all around town for 30 minutes, and everything was closed. He then takes me near the park, and shows me girl #2 from an hour ago! She must be the goto girl for all the mototaxi drivers. Eventually, he drives all the way north to some hidden street in the middle of nowhere in the edge of Binh Thanh district. Fortunately, there was a bunch of cute looking girls in there, and I go upstairs to a massage like area. I lay down on the table and get cleaned up by a 19 old year viet girl from Ho Chi Minh name Nhi. She's got a cute face, has that China doll haircut that I hate, but it works for her. She's got a nice tight body, and she's all about getting down to business. She bossed me around like no other. She was cleaning my manhood really well, inspecting every spot to make sure it's clean and it's not diseased. Then she pulls her top down, and hikes up her skirt, and pulls her panties down to her thighs. Then she proceeds to blow me. She's got a small but nice and firm tight booty, and perky Bcup boobs. She's trimmed down there and was dry when I went in with my fingers, and barely got wet. She tasted good though. Anyways, she's working on my knob, with a good wet technique, and when I was ready to bang her, and asked for boom boom, she said there's no boom boom here. The place doesn't offer it. It's BJs only. She said there would be big trouble if the police came in to find boom boom. But it's okay to find BJs? Whatever. I was surprised and pretty upset. Oh well, might as well finish. She continues, and while cupping her breast, and finger banging her, I blow my giant load into her mouth, pumping every last drop into her skull. She could suck a golf ball through a garden hose, my goodness. She goes and spits it out and cleans me up. She offers me a massage, but I'm already late for the new years party at times square at the bitexco tower. I go downstairs to pay, and they wanted 1000000 VND, wtf! For a BJ? Apparently it's for a BJ and massage, but I'm opting out because I'm out of time. Maybe the hike in price is due to it being new years eve. New years eve I talk myself into it, pay and leave.
I tell the driver that there was no boom boom, and to take me to times square. I'm furious at this point. He can't even take me to times square, everything was blocked off, and he drops me as close as possible. This guy wanted 250000 VND for wasting my time. I give him 100000 VND and tell him he didn't deliver me boom boom like he promised, and told him to go f**k off. I should have just given him 50000 VND like he originally asked for before the trip around the entire city. Twice.
Anyways, I tried to buy tickets to the party, but was too late, they stopped selling tickets 30 minutes ago. If I hadn't wasted my time with those idiots, I would have made it. Regardless, I found another rooftop bar and partied, and watched the fireworks from there.
However, before that, a woman asked if I wanted a massage across the street from the pham ngu lao park. Says she has plenty of girls available. I asked if there was boom boom available. I thought she had a massage parlor on the street, turns out later, this wasn't the case. She had offered me massages for the past few days near my hotel, so I figure she's a last ditch effort, since I leave tomorrow noon, this will be my last time to have a viet girl in Vietnam.
After the fireworks, I find her, and tell her I want boom boom. She tells me to wait and sit at one of the street food plastic chairs while I wait for the girls to arrive. She doesn't have a massage parlor like she said. Man, these southern viets are never to be trusted!
Anyways, two girls shows up. Both of them cute enough for a last ditch desperation attempt. I noticed the tall one in the red dress. I didn't really take a look at the other, just a glance. I tell the mamasan that she'll do, even though she was a 7. 5 tops. She takes me to a short time hotel. I was a little embarassed during the walk to the hotel, it was pretty obvious she was a hooker, and I was nearby my hotel. Tells me give her $40, but I don't have VND or change and pay with a $100, but she rips me off on the exchange rate by giving me 1100000 VND back. Then tells me to pay 350000 VND for the room, and asked if I had a condom. Of course I don't. And she takes another 50000 VND for the condom. OMG, never trust these southern viets. EVER!
Anyways, the girl's name is My, from Pleiku, I think between 22-26 (can't remember). No kid. She's was very playful at the beginning, and liked to cuddle. We kissed here and there, but she didn't do DFK, and had a facial tissue to wipe her mouth after every peck (what a turn off! She had some okay Bcup boobs, a cute face, a big booty, really long thick legs, and was pretty tall for a viet girl, about 5'6 or 5'7. She had some unappealing tattoos all over her body, a tramp stamp, a tattoo on her left shoulder blade, and one on her left arm shoulder, which was in English and didn't make any sense. She also had been in multiple motoscooter accidents, one leaving a bad surgical scar on her left inner thigh, and a pretty scabbed up right knee, and multiple bruises all over her legs. Her Vietnamese was indistinguishable, didn't sound like Vietnamese, but they speak a different dialect of Vietnamese than the one I'm used to (northern). But she spoke some Cantonese, as her father is ethnic Chinese. She kept saying things like "you handsome boy came to vietnam to find a beautiful vietnamese girl", and "to f**k pu$$ie, so do it!" You damn right I'm going to tear that pu$$ie up!
She made no effort to help my manhood up, regardless, I'm ready to go. I put the condom on, which was awful, no lube, felt old, and of terrible quality. And I start from behind, laying down, and get a great view of her behind. While pounding away for about 10 minutes, I then switch to my favorite position, which is mish. While I'm drilling her, she's in a great deal of pain. No lube on the condom, and she wasn't getting wet. This day and session has already been bad, I'm going to end it as soon as possible. The grimaced look on her face tells me everything I need to know. I keep pounding away, and kept thinking to myself, maybe we both should have taken a shower first, because it smelled like badussy (butt, dik, and pu$$ie) in this room. Could have been her, me, both of us, the room, wasn't too sure. I want to end it. While banging the crap out of her, she enjoys it while I increase my power and speed, but she's still in a lot of pain. She was tight as hell. Only near the end did she start to loosen up and get wet, which got me excited. Then I blow my intense load inside of her, pumping deep until every drop is out. Once the deed was done, she goes to shower off, and then I go after her. She completely dropped any interest in the session, and made me feel like a ghost in the room, as she went on about her business, and was on her phone, texting away the rest of the time. Once we were ready to go, I got the f**k out of dodge and was glad I got to be with a local girl. I figure that I could try another viet girl as I was going to go to macau anyways for the saunas. This was a starfish experience.
I left Saigon on a bad note. The airport confiscated a souvenir that I bought at the war remnants museum, which was in the shape of a bullet, but was really a lighter, almost causing me to miss my flight. There were so many beautiful girls in Saigon, I need to sample some of the premium goods. I feel like I need to return to make up for the bad last 24 hours I had there. Maybe someday, maybe never. For now, I'm going to chalk it up to bad timing.
Nhi:
Face: 7. 5.
Body: 7. 5.
Service (BJ only): 8. 5.
My:
Face: 7. 5.
Body: 7.
Service: 6.
My normal travels takes me quite frequently into China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. I do know the places to visit to find freelancers. Manhattan in Shanghai, Wanchai area in HK, Beach CLub in KL. Etc.
First time in April I will be going to Vietnam. Specifically HCM City. For few days. I have made many, many extensive searches in the various forums for HCM to find clubs or places where to find FL's or places nearby my hotel where to get a good massage. But each time came up empty handed. By the way, I plan to stay in the Intercontinental Asiana on corner of Hai Ba Trung and LE Duan.
Do any of the locals know of any places nearby to the Intercontinental (or with a taxi ride) to find talent? I generally like to take the girl for overnight pleasure. Not sure it is allowed in the Vietnam 5-star hotels.
I really would appreciate some one pointing in the right direction.
Many thanks for your help. Stay safe.
SilicaStorm
03-11-15, 18:35
Traveling to HCM for several days and wondering if any of the senior members to HCM could advise which bars, clubs or cafes (not wanting to hear Apocalypse as an answer) would be excellent place to enjoy the hunt of some high end freelancers?
Staying in District 1 near the market, but I don't mind going around town for some top end action if it to be found.
MutantChicken
03-12-15, 04:03
You want high end pussy or "guaranteed" overnights. Then look at the KTV that abound. Sure you pay a premium, if you hunt in bars (smileys, apocalypse, gossip etc) you will mostly find runners who will either give bad service so you kick them out or give some excuse so as to leave. There are other options as well but that requires some additional knowledge and contacts that isn't found online.
What's funny that I forgot to mention, was that I got My to say "Me love you long time" in reference to one of my favorite movies: Full Metal Jacket before we got to banging. Haha.
Hi,
Some of you PMed me for her contact number. Sorry I did not reply because she was already in Singapore since February 18. As far as I know, she is still there.
Funman13.
Hi TK sorry you left Saigon on a bad note. Your report was funny to read. I guess everything is funny when it happens to someone else. But after 10 visits there in 7 years my stories there are not much better. Gorgeous women, decent BJs but hard to bang. I did have some over-nighters with great bodies and cute faces for $100. Still, it's a lot cheaper than USA. But give me PI anytime. I don't go to Vietnam anymore.
Hi TK sorry you left Saigon on a bad note. Your report was funny to read. I guess everything is funny when it happens to someone else. But after 10 visits there in 7 years my stories there are not much better. Gorgeous women, decent BJs but hard to bang. I did have some over-nighters with great bodies and cute faces for $100. Still, it's a lot cheaper than USA. But give me PI anytime. I don't go to Vietnam anymore.I'm glad someone got a kick out of it haha I know I did. I definitely to go back one day and try it again, but this time better prepared. Everything is a lot cheaper than in the USA, I haven't found a place more expensive. What's PI?
I'm glad someone got a kick out of it haha I know I did. I definitely to go back one day and try it again, but this time better prepared. Everything is a lot cheaper than in the USA, I haven't found a place more expensive. What's PI?PI = Philippine Islands.
Hello guys,
I am Vietnamese and lived at Ho Chi Minh City. By chance, I found that website and knew that you are all difficult to find a girl here. So if any of you need my help when you are here to find some chicks. Just feel free to contact me and I will always be please to help you guys.
James Dean 2
04-02-15, 18:00
Intercontinental does not allow FLs to enter after 10 PM. There is however a pimp who stands outside the hotel after dark and can manage to get girls to your room. Has a way with the hotel staff. Typically 1 Mil VND for short time. Clubs include Apo, smileys etc. You will get that info from this forum thread.
Do any of the locals know of any places nearby to the Intercontinental (or with a taxi ride) to find talent? I generally like to take the girl for overnight pleasure. Not sure it is allowed in the Vietnam 5-star hotels.
Hello guys,
I am Vietnamese and lived at Ho Chi Minh City. By chance, I found that website and knew that you are all difficult to find a girl here. So if any of you need my help when you are here to find some chicks. Just feel free to contact me and I will always be please to help you guys.Hi,
I can't seem to send you private message.
MutantChicken
04-03-15, 14:25
Hi,
I can't seem to send you private message.Kid187 isn't a paid member nor has he posted sufficiently to get senior / PM'd function ability that's why you can't PM him.
Hi,
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Hi,
As you all can see, I am newbie here.
But I don't expect spoon feeding by your guy, before leave this msg, I had done enough research but yet, still puzzle about the action in HCMC.
I will be in HCMC d1 from 17 Apr. to 19 Apr. If you so happen be there, we can meet up and cheers.
I am planning my trip with my friend, we will stay in Ho sen 2 hotel, from research, it is nice. But I would like to hear advise from you guys about this hotel, if any.
I know some joints, but don't actually know how its work, for eg.
I found good review on Benny saloon, but from the other forum, said it sucks. So is rather confusing and I really need some expert to advise.
Now planning to go: Blanchys Tash / Club 39.
Any advice from senior bro?
MutantChicken
04-05-15, 07:13
Hi,
As you all can see, I am newbie here.
But I don't expect spoon feeding by your guy, before leave this msg, I had done enough research but yet, still puzzle about the action in HCMC.
I will be in HCMC d1 from 17 Apr. to 19 Apr. If you so happen be there, we can meet up and cheers.
I am planning my trip with my friend, we will stay in Ho sen 2 hotel, from research, it is nice. But I would like to hear advise from you guys about this hotel, if any.
I know some joints, but don't actually know how its work, for eg.
I found good review on Benny saloon, but from the other forum, said it sucks. So is rather confusing and I really need some expert to advise...Blanchy and club 39 are just that clubs for people to show off their wealth etc etc, there will be PR girls who for 500 k tip will stand around drink your alcohol and dance and hug you. Anything more will require frequent visits and lots of money spent. Its not a place fro freelancer etc etc.
Benny is a well known this over priced hottoc that offers BBBJ (CIM) conducted by older women or fats the cost is now 200+200, for that price there are places where the girls are younger and prettier, tho the usual price for a BBBJ is 250-300 k, some places are as cheap as 120-150 (these places have some young pretty girls but most are older on par with Benny) if you are prepared to go out 45 min from d1.
AmericanThief
04-05-15, 17:33
Hi,
As you all can see, I am newbie here.
But I don't expect spoon feeding by your guy, before leave this msg, I had done enough research but yet, still puzzle about the action in HCMC.
I will be in HCMC d1 from 17 Apr. to 19 Apr. If you so happen be there, we can meet up and cheers.
I am planning my trip with my friend, we will stay in Ho sen 2 hotel, from research, it is nice. But I would like to hear advise from you guys about this hotel, if any.
I know some joints, but don't actually know how its work, for eg.
I found good review on Benny saloon, but from the other forum, said it sucks. So is rather confusing and I really need some expert to advise.
Now planning to go: Blanchys Tash / Club 39.
Any advice from senior bro?Yes Ben ny sucks literally and figuratively. Blanchys and 39 are nightclubs with EDM.
AmericanThief
04-05-15, 17:56
After getting a "haircut" Saturday I went to Voodoo to see the French Maid costumes.
Hi bro,
Firstly, thanks bro Mutantchicken and Americantheif for the info.
Our plan is as below:
We touch down on Friday afternoon and plan to go BBBJ saloon like Ben Ny, however, no good option can be found online. Am trying to get more info on the Saloon (is a must try to me).
In the night, would like to go chill and maybe get a overnight stay, again, my hotel is Ho Sen 2, according to research I did, it is girl friendly hotel.
Same for day 2, maybe try to meet up some bro from SBF or here? If you are in HCMC during 17 April to 19 April.
I understand that the system in HCMC is difference from others. Unlike Batam, you go to 'house' and choose for overnight companion, or Taiwan, you go KTV and can do anything inside, or Hong Kong, you can go to every floor / room to choose your girl. I am just curious is it so unsafe to bring girl back to hotel? Any reputable booking joint recommended?
I knew that pay extra is a must for newbie like us and prepared to pay higher as in we cannot communicate well in Vietnam due to language barrier. But the most important thing is to enjoy while we there, so would really appreciated if bro here can share some good Saloon, overnight joint and Club info with me. I would buy you drink if we can have fun there.
Hi bro,
Firstly, thanks bro Mutantchicken and Americantheif for the info.
Our plan is as below:
We touch down on Friday afternoon and plan to go BBBJ saloon like Ben Ny, however, no good option can be found online. Am trying to get more info on the Saloon (is a must try to me).
In the night, would like to go chill and maybe get a overnight stay, again, my hotel is Ho Sen 2, according to research I did, it is girl friendly hotel.
Same for day 2, maybe try to meet up some bro from SBF or here? If you are in HCMC during 17 April to 19 April.
I understand that the system in HCMC is difference from others. Unlike Batam, you go to 'house' and choose for overnight companion, or Taiwan, you go KTV and can do anything inside, or Hong Kong, you can go to every floor / room to choose your girl. I am just curious is it so unsafe to bring girl back to hotel? Any reputable booking joint recommended?
I knew that pay extra is a must for newbie like us and prepared to pay higher as in we cannot communicate well in Vietnam due to language barrier. But the most important thing is to enjoy while we there, so would really appreciated if bro here can share some good Saloon, overnight joint and Club info with me. I would buy you drink if we can have fun there.I was there not long ago and posted my reviews and addresses. Just read what everyone wrote and you will not have a problem. Vietnam is safe and beautiful woman everywhere. Forget about Ben Ny just consider it a McDonalds. They are everywhere. You have to explore and monger.
JFreeman261
04-06-15, 14:58
Hi guys,
I've have a trip to HCMC this fall and I'm debating should I rent out an apt or grab a girl friendly hotel room. The rates seem about the same and I'm going to assume it would be easier with the apt. What do you guys recommend.
Also any recommendations for spots to hit up would be greatly appreciated. I will only be there for a few days so I want to maximize my experience there.
Thanks!
JFreeman261
04-06-15, 15:10
Hey guys!
I am new to this forum but I have gleaned a lot of information from your posts. I will be going to HCMC this fall and was wondering if I should get a room at a girl friendly hotel or rent an apartment? The prices seem about the same but hotels seem like more of a hassle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated on this topic.
Sadly I will only be spending a week there. Would you guys be able to recommend any spots for me to hit up? I really want to get the most out of this trip if at all possible.
Hi bro,
Firstly, thanks bro Mutantchicken and Americantheif for the info.
Our plan is as below:
We touch down on Friday afternoon and plan to go BBBJ saloon like Ben Ny, however, no good option can be found online. Am trying to get more info on the Saloon (is a must try to me).
In the night, would like to go chill and maybe get a overnight stay, again, my hotel is Ho Sen 2, according to research I did, it is girl friendly hotel.
Same for day 2, maybe try to meet up some bro from SBF or here? If you are in HCMC during 17 April to 19 April.
I understand that the system in HCMC is difference from others. Unlike Batam, you go to 'house' and choose for overnight companion, or Taiwan, you go KTV and can do anything inside, or Hong Kong, you can go to every floor / room to choose your girl. I am just curious is it so unsafe to bring girl back to hotel? Any reputable booking joint recommended?
I knew that pay extra is a must for newbie like us and prepared to pay higher as in we cannot communicate well in Vietnam due to language barrier. But the most important thing is to enjoy while we there, so would really appreciated if bro here can share some good Saloon, overnight joint and Club info with me. I would buy you drink if we can have fun there.Hello guys,
I am newbie here also but I lived here and I know where we could have fun. Prostitute is not allowed in Vietnam but you can find it anywhere if you lived here. I not a paid member so I could not use private message. I will please to help you with the time you are here for free. Just want to know more friends and have fun together. If you want to join with me, just arrange to meet somewhere where you come here and we will go whatever you want to know.
CarpetMuncher
04-09-15, 02:56
My normal travels takes me quite frequently into China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. I do know the places to visit to find freelancers. Manhattan in Shanghai, Wanchai area in HK, Beach CLub in KL. Etc.
First time in April I will be going to Vietnam. Specifically HCM City. For few days. I have made many, many extensive searches in the various forums for HCM to find clubs or places where to find FL's or places nearby my hotel where to get a good massage. But each time came up empty handed. By the way, I plan to stay in the Intercontinental Asiana on corner of Hai Ba Trung and LE Duan.
Do any of the locals know of any places nearby to the Intercontinental (or with a taxi ride) to find talent? I generally like to take the girl for overnight pleasure. Not sure it is allowed in the Vietnam 5-star hotels.
I really would appreciate some one pointing in the right direction.
Many thanks for your help. Stay safe.Across from New World Hotel is a night club that has what you are looking for. It may have migrated to the Sky Bar now, it has been a a while since I was there.
Happy hunting.
ChelseaBill
04-11-15, 20:25
After getting a "haircut" Saturday I went to Voodoo to see the French Maid costumes.Hi Thief,
Were the models available or playful at all?
Bill.
My normal travels takes me quite frequently into China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. I do know the places to visit to find freelancers. Manhattan in Shanghai, Wanchai area in HK, Beach CLub in KL. Etc.
First time in April I will be going to Vietnam. Specifically HCM City. For few days. I have made many, many extensive searches in the various forums for HCM to find clubs or places where to find FL's or places nearby my hotel where to get a good massage. But each time came up empty handed. By the way, I plan to stay in the Intercontinental Asiana on corner of Hai Ba Trung and LE Duan.
Do any of the locals know of any places nearby to the Intercontinental (or with a taxi ride) to find talent? I generally like to take the girl for overnight pleasure. Not sure it is allowed in the Vietnam 5-star hotels.
I really would appreciate some one pointing in the right direction.
Many thanks for your help. Stay safe.The good news is that the bars around Hai Ba Trung and Thai Van Lung will have what you want for a price.
The bad news is that an overnight in the Intercon will not happen. Suggest you read the hotels thread for other options.
Cheers.
Hi all,
Going HCMC this weekend. Stay near Pham ngu lao.
Did a lot of research, but still confuse about the system in HCMC.
Looks like not possible to get overnight with gal at around 1.5 mil dong?
Anyone will be there during 17 April?
Hi all,
Going HCMC this weekend. Stay near Pham ngu lao.
Did a lot of research, but still confuse about the system in HCMC.
Looks like not possible to get overnight with gal at around 1.5 mil dong?
Anyone will be there during 17 April?Jas,
I will answer this one. First you are asking the wrong question. First of you have to actually find a girl for over night it would be most likely at a bar. Lets say you got this far. Next you have to have to be able to communicate with the girl. If she speaks English great. But, you have to assume she does not speak English. So you better have some kind of Google translator or what ever to get to this point. Next, For FS for the hour or I would like to say a rushed 10 minutes is basically 1 mill for the girl and 400-500 thousand for the shop. So I would say it is more realistic you will get a girl to come to your hotel and pay her a million for the hour. Once you pay you should assume she will rush you. But if not great. Then the final question is do you have a safe big enough in your room to lock your valuables away. Your money, computer, passport, etc. Because you now have a stranger who as soon as you fall asleep could steal your computer etc the minute you fall asleep. So those are the questions you should be asking. Next you want to talk with your bank and make sure they don't cut off your card if you make withdraw after withdraw lets say 7 times in one day depending how much you spend. Because it will set up a red flag and many banks will shut off card. If you can go there with 10 million in dong so you don't have to mess with ATMS. Finally when you get out of airport go to the taxi stand. Don't go with a taxi driver when they come up to you. They may speak great English and super nice. Don't go with them! Go to the taxi stand.
MutantChicken
04-14-15, 08:27
Hi all,
Going HCMC this weekend. Stay near Pham ngu lao.
Did a lot of research, but still confuse about the system in HCMC.
Looks like not possible to get overnight with gal at around 1.5 mil dong?
Anyone will be there during 17 April?Yes, even if you find a girl willing go overnight the price is about 100 USD or 2 mill. That's the going rate for about 5-6 yrs.
I don't think that I will bring my card over. Maybe a credit card only. Transport arranged via hotel, it should be fine?
Only worry is the girl LOL. Overnight in HCMC seem like not easy as Batam or Malaysia. As a man, should always face the challenge, right? No pain no gain!
Seem like the overnight joint will at pham ngu lao area after my research. Any bro know about this?
AussieDoug
04-15-15, 08:34
The good news is that the bars around Hai Ba Trung and Thai Van Lung will have what you want for a price.
The bad news is that an overnight in the Intercon will not happen. Suggest you read the hotels thread for other options.
Cheers.I stayed once in that hotel, or I thought I did, if that's the one beside the Hard Rock. There was another lift just inside the doorway leading from the little arcade between the Hard Rock and the hotel lobby, quite easy to go up there direct to hotel floors.
That arcade had a few flirts in it also, so keep your eyes open.
NguyetLang
04-16-15, 06:57
I don't think that I will bring my card over. Maybe a credit card only. Transport arranged via hotel, it should be fine?
Only worry is the girl LOL. Overnight in HCMC seem like not easy as Batam or Malaysia. As a man, should always face the challenge, right? No pain no gain!
Seem like the overnight joint will at pham ngu lao area after my research. Any bro know about this?All the Hotels in the Bui Vien & Pham Ngu Lao area are green. I stayed at the iPeace Hotel and brought in two different girls in one day (6 hrs apart, not threesome). However, beware of that some hotel charge extra for the second person. If you book on the web, make sure you book for 2 persons and on check-in say that the other guest will come later (if ask, some hotel will just ignore). They usually check if the booking includes breakfast, since they will have to give you two breakfast vouchers.
The going price for District 1 girls, with some English, is 100 USD or about 2 Mil VND as others have reported here. If you speak the local language and venture out further away from D1 you can find 500 k ST and 1 Mil LT. However, those are usually of lesser quality and do not speak English. The locals can find them better than expats. The way to do it is to make friends with some local mongers and git help from them. The harvest in HCM is plentiful, you just need the right tool.
Enjoy Vietnam,
Peter.
Uncle Volodya
04-16-15, 11:07
All the Hotels in the Bui Vien & Pham Ngu Lao area are green. I stayed at the iPeace Hotel and brought in two different girls in one day (6 hrs apart, not threesome). However, beware of that some hotel charge extra for the second person. If you book on the web, make sure you book for 2 persons and on check-in say that the other guest will come later (if ask, some hotel will just ignore). They usually check if the booking includes breakfast, since they will have to give you two breakfast vouchers.
The going price for District 1 girls, with some English, is 100 USD or about 2 Mil VND as others have reported here. If you speak the local language and venture out further away from D1 you can find 500 k ST and 1 Mil LT. However, those are usually of lesser quality and do not speak English. The locals can find them better than expats. The way to do it is to make friends with some local mongers and git help from them. The harvest in HCM is plentiful, you just need the right tool.
Enjoy Vietnam,
Peter.Hi Peter,
You've given me some good advice in the past so I hope you won't mind if I as again. I will be hooking up with a lovely VN girl I met in Shanghai. I want to take her on a little 3 day trip outside of HMC. Initially I wanted to go take her on a cruise of Halong bay (pictures are amazing! But she is has a real problem with motion sickness and can not handle the 4 hour drive to the bay from Hanoi.
Any cool places you can recommend to see that I could get to by plane or train from HMC? Something not in the guidebook?
Thanks again for your help!
Uncle-V.
AmericanThief
04-16-15, 13:09
The going price for District 1 girls, with some English, is 100 USD or about 2 Mil VND
Peter.No it isn't Peter.
It depends on what you negotiate. Some guys are good at it and get ST for $35. I suck at it and do a take it or leave it deal and usually pay $50 sometimes $60. Teenage Mutant Ninjas pay only $20. Either way, only foolish drunk tourist inside Apo would pay those kind of prices.
No it isn't Peter.
It depends on what you negotiate. Some guys are good at it and get ST for $35. I suck at it and do a take it or leave it deal and usually pay $50 sometimes $60. Teenage Mutant Ninjas pay only $20. Either way, only foolish drunk tourist inside Apo would pay those kind of prices.LOL, I am on my way to HCMC now.
Excited and hopefully 100 usd can get LT over there.
SteelBaton
04-22-15, 06:12
Hey guys!
I am new to this forum but I have gleaned a lot of information from your posts. I will be going to HCMC this fall and was wondering if I should get a room at a girl friendly hotel or rent an apartment? The prices seem about the same but hotels seem like more of a hassle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated on this topic.
Sadly I will only be spending a week there. Would you guys be able to recommend any spots for me to hit up? I really want to get the most out of this trip if at all possible.Good that you have a week. I'd consider the apartment rental depending on location. A 2 star GF hotel is ok, but the rooms are pretty basic and might feel too small for a full week. So if you can bag a decent apartment it would be more comfortable especially if you are planning to bring some girls home. The GF hotels work ok, but they girls do have to check in with the hotel and that can be a little bit of a hassle. On the other hand, you are getting a little security check on the girl but her ID may still be fake.
My somewhat limited experience is that most of the girls in the bars are pretty old and fat at least compared to what is on offer in Hong Kong and China. I got bored really fast of looking around for anything under 30 and under 9 stones (130 pounds). Most are mothers and have the bodies to prove it.
But there are a few guys on WeChat that can offer you a line-up of girls at a short-term hotel. This is usually my preferred method. Some of the girls are pretty hot. The price is VND 1 million ($45) for one shot and one hour, plus about 200 k ($8) for the room. I have pulled many 8/10 girls this way. If you click with one of the girls then get her WeChat or phone number and ask her to your hotel or apartment for the night. They will usually jump at this if they don't think you are an asshole. Of the VND 1 million, the girl gets less than 1/3 so if you pay her 1 million or 1. 5 and she doesn't have to pay the WeChat agent or (perhaps) her mama then its a really good deal for her.
There are also lots of freelancers on WeChat if you are in D1 and use the "look around" function. Beware! Many of the photos are bogus but some are real. If you like you can juggle a few conversations and then ask the girl (s) to meet you a coffee shop to see if you like her looks or not. Its one way to while away a few hours in the early evening.
If you feel its worth $19, join the forum and I'll PM you some contacts.
Good luck.
Hey guys!
I am new to this forum but I have gleaned a lot of information from your posts. I will be going to HCMC this fall and was wondering if I should get a room at a girl friendly hotel or rent an apartment? The prices seem about the same but hotels seem like more of a hassle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated on this topic.
Sadly I will only be spending a week there. Would you guys be able to recommend any spots for me to hit up? I really want to get the most out of this trip if at all possible.I'd stay away from the apartment and get a GF hotel. Many of the apartments will have sercurity that will not let you bring in girls. For only a week you're better off getting a hotel (IMO). Also be sure and call to check if it is okay to have a girl spend the night (wherever you stay). No reason to risk it when all you have to do is ask ahead of time.
JFreeman261
04-23-15, 00:29
Good that you have a week. I'd consider the apartment rental depending on location. A 2 star GF hotel is ok, but the rooms are pretty basic and might feel too small for a full week. So if you can bag a decent apartment it would be more comfortable especially if you are planning to bring some girls home. The GF hotels work ok, but they girls do have to check in with the hotel and that can be a little bit of a hassle. On the other hand, you are getting a little security check on the girl but her ID may still be fake.
My somewhat limited experience is that most of the girls in the bars are pretty old and fat at least compared to what is on offer in Hong Kong and China. I got bored really fast of looking around for anything under 30 and under 9 stones (130 pounds). Most are mothers and have the bodies to prove it.
But there are a few guys on WeChat that can offer you a line-up of girls at a short-term hotel. This is usually my preferred method. Some of the girls are pretty hot. The price is VND 1 million ($45) for one shot and one hour, plus about 200 k ($8) for the room. I have pulled many 8/10 girls this way. If you click with one of the girls then get her WeChat or phone number and ask her to your hotel or apartment for the night. They will usually jump at this if they don't think you are an asshole. Of the VND 1 million, the girl gets less than 1/3 so if you pay her 1 million or 1. 5 and she doesn't have to pay the WeChat agent or (perhaps) her mama then its a really good deal for her.
There are also lots of freelancers on WeChat if you are in D1 and use the "look around" function. Beware! Many of the photos are bogus but some are real. If you like you can juggle a few conversations and then ask the girl (s) to meet you a coffee shop to see if you like her looks or not. Its one way to while away a few hours in the early evening.
If you feel its worth $19, join the forum and I'll PM you some contacts.
Good luck.Thanks for the info! The WeChat route sounds interesting but it also scares me a bit. I have the problems with the language barrier and I don't want to get scammed either. I've read mixed reviews on wechat.
LuvAsianTang
05-01-15, 15:47
Hey guys!
I am new to this forum but I have gleaned a lot of information from your posts. I will be going to HCMC this fall and was wondering if I should get a room at a girl friendly hotel or rent an apartment? The prices seem about the same but hotels seem like more of a hassle. Any advice would be greatly appreciated on this topic.
Sadly I will only be spending a week there. Would you guys be able to recommend any spots for me to hit up? I really want to get the most out of this trip if at all possible.I always rent an apartment even for a week then I don't have the hassle with having over night guests. Plus you can have fun in the kitchen too and non p4 p girls love to cook a meal with you before they phuck your brains out.
Have fun LAT.
SteelBaton
05-02-15, 07:52
Thanks for the info! The WeChat route sounds interesting but it also scares me a bit. I have the problems with the language barrier and I don't want to get scammed either. I've read mixed reviews on wechat.Language: I won't worry about the language barriers unless you are planning on a long conversation over dinner about soap operas. All the communication necessary can be done without sharing a common language. WeChat has a built in translation function so the girl or agent can type in VN and you can reply in English. Google translate also works sufficiently so be sure to get a SIM card and load the GT app. It comes in handy if you want to communicate with the girl when you hook up. Also, I always get the WeChat contact details for any girl I fuck that I might like to repeat with. They will almost always give you their details. And, there is no privacy worries since you can block or delete her and the reverse as well.
Scams: the biggest issue is Bait & Switching. This happens everywhere (escort services, WeChat, Internet dating, etc) so you are best positioned if you pick some girls that you think you might like and then get them to meet you at a coffee shop or a short stay hotel so that you can inspect the goods. Ask the agents for a short stay motel and meet the girl there. If you like her and have a good time then get her Wechat details and arrange a hotel meeting for another night. If the girl cuts out the WeChat agent she will nearly double her money, if she cuts out her mamasan she will do even better.
Lately I've had some trouble with be&S. The Wechat agent swears he has a totally hot young thing but then she doesn't show up because she is "tired" and the agent will send someone else. Last time I was sitting in the hourly hotel for 45 minutes as girls showed up, offered themselves, and then left after I rejected them. Finally a really sweet 21 year old arrived and I fucked her brains out after waiting so long.
SteelBaton
05-02-15, 07:58
Here's an example of a girl that was promised but once I arrived I was told she was too "tired" for more work. It was 7:30 pm. Nevertheless I eventually found someone it just required an extra 45 minutes.
SteelBaton
05-02-15, 08:15
Recently someone pointed me in the direction of the danchoi website (dot xxx or dot net). These look like local field reports on girls available in Hanoi or HCMC. But the quality of the photos suggests professional marketing shots.
Tip: use google Chrome as your browser on computer, iPhone, iPad and the Vietnamese will be automatically translated into English.
Does anyone have experience with the girls on these sites? The photos look very good (see below) and the prices are really low $20-$30. I am just not convinced that the girls in the photos are available for these prices. Also, when calling or texting to the phone numbers - who are you contacting? where do you meet them?
Thanks -.
SoloTravels
05-02-15, 17:20
Recently someone pointed me in the direction of the danchoi website (dot xxx or dot net). These look like local field reports on girls available in Hanoi or HCMC. But the quality of the photos suggests professional marketing shots.
Tip: use google Chrome as your browser on computer, iPhone, iPad and the Vietnamese will be automatically translated into English.
Does anyone have experience with the girls on these sites? The photos look very good (see below) and the prices are really low $20-$30. I am just not convinced that the girls in the photos are available for these prices. Also, when calling or texting to the phone numbers - who are you contacting? where do you meet them?
ThanksThese girls are actually legit because they get review and rated.
WeChat girls are all bait and switch, 99% of the time you are not even texting the girl but its their manager. Who sends a random girl to you. Most of these girls are unattractive and dirty, please do not go this route. Danchoi is a good site, but most of these girls don't serve foreigners because they speak 0 English. NPK is your best bet as a foreigner, unless you can get the bar girls.
Napoly is a quality bar, the girls here are usually much better looking than Catwalk. But Napoly closes very early at 12:30 AM.
BigSwingingDon
05-03-15, 00:26
These girls are actually legit because they get review and rated.
WeChat girls are all bait and switch, 99% of the time you are not even texting the girl but its their manager. Who sends a random girl to you. Most of these girls are unattractive and dirty, please do not go this route. Danchoi is a good site, but most of these girls don't serve foreigners because they speak 0 English. NPK is your best bet as a foreigner, unless you can get the bar girls.
Napoly is a quality bar, the girls here are usually much better looking than Catwalk. But Napoly closes very early at 12:30 AM.Thanks for the reply.
What is NPK site?
If I am contacting a Danchoi phone number am I calling the girl? Or an agent? Where does the action take place?
Recently someone pointed me in the direction of the danchoi website (dot xxx or dot net). These look like local field reports on girls available in Hanoi or HCMC. But the quality of the photos suggests professional marketing shots.
Tip: use google Chrome as your browser on computer, iPhone, iPad and the Vietnamese will be automatically translated into English.
Does anyone have experience with the girls on these sites? The photos look very good (see below) and the prices are really low $20-$30. I am just not convinced that the girls in the photos are available for these prices. Also, when calling or texting to the phone numbers - who are you contacting? where do you meet them?
Thanks -.Lots of discussion about this over in the Finding Girls Online thread, which was set up by MikHCMC expressly for this topic.
I got your PM and answered questions about this too.
Thanks for the reply.
What is NPK site?
If I am contacting a Danchoi phone number am I calling the girl? Or an agent? Where does the action take place?Lots of info on the danchoi websites in the Finding Girls Online section of this Vietnam thread. To answer your question, normaly when calling a number from one of those ads you are contacting the girl directly.
There is no NPK "site" (if you mean website), they mean Nguyen Phi Khanh street in district 3. There are a few hair salons there that specialize in certain happily ending services. Go there, walk down the street, can't miss them. They will find you.
How's it going, bros?
This is my first post and I just paid for subs.
Hope this post doesn't break any rules, would make me look a retard.
I'll be in Saigon in 2 weeks. Probably starting with NPK but stay in D1, spend all my time eating street food and getting BJs.
So I read that a few guys have been to the Tâand beình area next to the airport, like see you Long and Lam Sơand, I'd be grateful if anyone can share more experiences about that area.
Next, I'm probably going to try out the bus system. LOL. Luck to me.
NguyetLang
05-05-15, 20:14
Hi Peter,
You've given me some good advice in the past so I hope you won't mind if I as again. I will be hooking up with a lovely VN girl I met in Shanghai. I want to take her on a little 3 day trip outside of HMC. Initially I wanted to go take her on a cruise of Halong bay (pictures are amazing! But she is has a real problem with motion sickness and can not handle the 4 hour drive to the bay from Hanoi.
Any cool places you can recommend to see that I could get to by plane or train from HMC? Something not in the guidebook?
Thanks again for your help!
Uncle-V.Sorry that I have been away. In your case I'd like to recommend Phu Quoc Island, still new to tourist development, but on its way. Catch it early while you can. Think Phuket before it was overrun by tourists. Flight departs daily from HCM to Phu Quoc, about less than 1 HR flight time.
http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Phu_Quoc
Enjoy Vietnam,
Peter.
NguyetLang
05-05-15, 20:25
No it isn't Peter.
It depends on what you negotiate. Some guys are good at it and get ST for $35. I suck at it and do a take it or leave it deal and usually pay $50 sometimes $60. Teenage Mutant Ninjas pay only $20. Either way, only foolish drunk tourist inside Apo would pay those kind of prices.I have NOT been able to get any LT in D1 for less than 100 USD. I do speak the local language. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that I am a fifty something trying to negotiate with a twenty something, not much luck so far. Perhaps also, I have not been going to the right places.
I do have some luck with LT for 1 mil in D10. The quality was decent on both looks and service. And about 500 k for ST there.
Cheers,
Uncle Volodya
05-08-15, 19:28
Sorry that I have been away. In your case I'd like to recommend Phu Quoc Island, still new to tourist development, but on its way. Catch it early while you can. Think Phuket before it was overrun by tourists. Flight departs daily from HCM to Phu Quoc, about less than 1 HR flight time.
http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Phu_Quoc
Enjoy Vietnam,
Peter.Thanks Peter!
We already decided on Hoi An. But it's god to have the tip. I'm sure this won't be my last time in VN.
I'm so excited. Fly out tomorrow!
Uncle-V.
DalDeepSing
06-15-15, 06:11
Hello guys,
I am Vietnamese and lived at Ho Chi Minh City. By chance, I found that website and knew that you are all difficult to find a girl here. So if any of you need my help when you are here to find some chicks. Just feel free to contact me and I will always be please to help you guys.Hello,
I am coming to HCMC on 8th July. Need your guide. [Deleted by Admin]
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SportMongr
07-13-15, 20:59
On an Asia tour, and this was the first day in Vietnam. Read and did as much research as I could. All of it as usual leads to garbage.
1st heard that there were girlie bars around don Khoi near the Sheraton hotel. That just turned out to be a bunch of upscale restaurants and local's hanging out. LE thanh street same thing but a few more massage parlors. Most of which the ladies were average except for 1 were 4 ladies were completely decked out like geisha- hooker girls, absolutely fine. But I was not sure if they offered extras. So I did not push the issue and walked. As I walked further a younger lady who could be a worker but now does the recruiting showed me to a hotel. A line up was presented like 10 girls. Most very doable. Maybe 1-2, an 8 -9 scale. I had already told the girl I was not ready,was just looking, asked how much? $60 includes room everything 1 HR. I was a bit worried about being jacked in the room. After all I am out of sight in some back remote hotel off the Main Street. So I want to see if a better deal can be worked out. And venture on.
Took a taxi to bui vien and some other backpacker touristy street real close by. Basically wasted my night there with my bud drinking a warm beer dripping in the heat. I took a complete walk around the place, only a few local bar maybe two with a handful of Vietnamese ladies out front hanging out. Acting as if they are drinking. They welcomed me in for a drink. ,I suppose you have to drink and chit chat. And maybe if your lucky they offer you a rate that any dumb ass after 15 beers will jump on. So that was a waste.
On my walk a motorbike guy asked me to jump on his taxi for $1 he will take me to a hotel. Many lady $30, somehow I did not believe him. Plus I have already been rolled a few nights ago in Cambodia. And I do not need another jacking of my money.
So I head back to hotel. And I am going to take another final run around my hotel grounds district 1. Near la thanh ton. Before I make it to my hotel, to,take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Guy stops me. You want lady, I have her here 5 minutes? I agree. He says $50. I said dude before offer me $30. Ok ok $40.
So 2 girls come rolling up. Both really decent looking with dresses on. One shorter with black dress. One taller with red dress. I'm a tall dude. So I take the point to the tall. She now tells the dude yack yackmyackmdu duck. And dude says. She wants $50. I say ok. I give you 40. But if you are nice upstairs I give you extra 10. She starts squawking and getting what you would call Vietnamese hooker-tude. So I said. Sorry. Adios. I was interested in walking and choosing my own. The guy convinced me this was the best deal $50? Japanese man pay $100-$500 for 1 HR. I explained that I was not some idiot from those places that over pays. Told him if I pay $50 I want "hot" like 21-24 no mama's. He agrees. Next chica comes rolling up, on motor bike. She looks young in face. And her body a bit more chubby than I like. But it is 12:30 and I am ready to, wrap, up. Some crazy thing happens and the dude wants my $50. Pay me not girl. I say no! I give girl. This goes back and forth like retards arguing. The girl, immediately gets a nasty attitude. They agree I pay girl. As lady and I walking. I get this nasty vibe from her. Just like the first girls. So stop as she is walking ahead. And say sorry. Adios.
I walk back tell the dude. This one is a real *****! I'm done with your chica's. Now this dude looks like I just ran over his dog with a car. He understands but I can see fear a worry in his eyes. I told him 1 more girl. This be. Witch better have a customer friendly attitude or I am done.
So another girl shows up all on motorbike. With like pimp driver. It happens to be the girl with the black dress that I declined in round one over her friend. Real, great. I am screwed. But she gets off the bike with the biggest forced smile I have ever seen. Hello,? So it's awkward because I just rejected her in round 1. But she is a pretty lady just short. But it will have to work now that the street guy looks like he will be getting his legs broken if I do not pick this girl.
As soon as I get up, the stairs of my hotel I notice the girl is having trouble walking. The she takes this big sniff, and then tries to exit the one side of her nose. Real great,I got a crack head who just got done with loading up. She is coughing all the way up to my room. Snorting. Agh shit. So I try to pull through. I tell myself. I am with the Vietnamese version of Sharon Stone in casino. So it pumps me up a tad. The chick is crazy. Laughing occasionally. But the somehow a bit of water calms her drug tweaks and we get to business.
As she gets naked she has this nice body. I can tell she is mama material, some may not be able to tell. But because I am an expert. Absolutely nothing that hinders the eye.
I get her out of her shy under the cover routine. Was a bit afraid about tasting the seafood. She had a hairy muff and it was the drugs that made me back away. Because it looked nice. Man I love these dark hairy vietnamese cracks.
She takes over does some nice warm up work bbj under the covers. Started with cow girl. I really took my time and after doggy she started to complain. Back to missionary. She started to complain. I get it I get it your good. What a buzz kill. I told her shut your mouth it has only been like 15-20 minutes. I knew she would walk at any moment. So, luckily I was able to pull, the trigger after another few minutes of work. It was nice because all I had to do is look down at her and the engine was firing up. That is usually not easy to do with everyone.
Is this the best venue Saigon has to offer? Find the street Hawks. They call the pimps on motor bikes and the selection arrives. It was ok? Very strange actually. I rather choose the lady after getting a bit of her vibe. But the other option $60st had me choosing girls at some random hotel. Was a bit risky. And $50 short time. Seems a bit high. Come on. This is vietnam. I don't care what idiots out there pay. And by the way. It is them screwing things up.
MutantChicken
07-14-15, 04:49
I was going to not report but given the last report I wanted to show case some good examples available in HCMC.
So not sure if people remember but back in 2010 etc there was whole streets full of hot toc in D7, where the girls would get fully naked and then give you a BBBJ often with a CIM for the cost of 200 k, unfortunately the were closed down by authorities and since then there hasn't been anything equivalent resurface, OK sure there are plenty of BBBJ CIM places, but none where the girls get fully naked. Well this week I took out my bike and found d7 hot toc v2. 0. This shop is quite small it has only 4 girls all are slim and under 28, most I would rate 7 so no model types. How ever for 300 k, she will get fully naked, gave you a sl. Ow BBBJ CIM, she will also do the whole fire / ice routine, and will also rim you if that's your thing, great value at 300 k if that's your thing, and four 700 k she will also fuck, ie 700 k total. How ever you will be fucking on a narrow massage table. Any Pom me only if you have something equivalent to exchange, I don't do hand outs. Don't PM me if all you can give me is something I can google or you reports in the past have been about Pattaya / Angeles. Eg if you know the address of the hidden Shanghai sauna / sexclubs then pm and ill give you the address.
Is this the best venue Saigon has to offer? Find the street Hawks. They call the pimps on motor bikes and the selection arrives. It was ok? Very strange actually. I rather choose the lady after getting a bit of her vibe. But the other option $60st had me choosing girls at some random hotel. Was a bit risky. And $50 short time. Seems a bit high. Come on. This is vietnam. I don't care what idiots out there pay. And by the way. It is them screwing things up.Avoid the street hawks at all cost, they are most of the time dirty, drug addicts, forced into it by a pimp and will always provide bad service with bad attitude. The 50 $ short time at the hotel is I think safer and a better option even if again you will probably get a bad attitude from the girl. By the way, can you indicate where this hotel was? Is it the one near Dong Khoi behind grand hotel in a small alley?
If you want a nice Viet girl with good service you better get a FL in a bar or club like Apocalypse, at least you can talk a bit and feel the vibe first, but expect to pay higher price, I think 100 $ for 2 hours with 2 shots with a nice girl is reasonable for foreigners and tourists. Try also to catch a FL online, check the thread about this topic.
This is Vietnam, not Thailand, you can get a lot of disappointment before you finally get the shag of your life!
Enjoy!
SportMongr
07-14-15, 21:30
So sorry to leave a novel on the last post, but it my first time in Saigon and I would have liked to have read a few detailed stories before I arrived.
So before heading out tonight my 2nd night I stop in an Irish pub right next door to my hotel. This is at 7:40 pm and as soon as I walk in the crack head hooker that I shagged on night one is in a full on sexy waitress uniform seating my friend and I for dinner. What are the fucking odds of that! I did not meet her in the Irish pub. Some motor bike dude on the street called a dude. Who rolled up with her and friend on bike. ,I originally declined her etc. Wow? So she was composed and obviously in normal, work mode. She tried her best to avoid eye contact with me. It was a bit awkward at first but then I just realized I better just play dumb or she might get fired. And it gets more frighten awkward. So I wake up horned up from last night. And jump on we chat. They should call, that site dial a bride. Hourly and nightly rates. So I get like 10'girls want to just drive to my hotel and show up for an hour.
1st girl looks hot. I ask for body photo and looks hot as well. Girl shows up. And nice looking. But it's not her body. She is a spinner and her picture had her more solid. So she comes in asks money first. I never do money first? Wtf is up with that? Even when I show them I have the money. I will, give after. She caused enough issue I almost kicked her out. "Money after" I am telling all stop caving in. ! So it took me getting upset a bit but glad I held it. So she starts getting feisty not letting me touch her etc. Then she caves in. She agreed to a long list of demands before she arrived " obviously it was not her typing back. But she was probably told. Hell maybe not. I wanted to DATY. It was nice. Then during the shag she got a bad attitude a bit. Started complaining etc. At the end when I finished she seemed to address me as some sort of monster. ,she was all friendly at the door and at intro. Then I become the evil villain. Mshe walked out. Didn't say bye, contacts nothing. Just hightails. Wow. Made me feel like the girl is being forced etc. ,I felt really bad. Her bad mojo had worked on me.
So after the Irish pub went to lush. Jam packed with dudes. But some real talent there. But it was so hot and hard to move getting to the talent would be difficult. Only basic girls standing on the sides and not looking friendly either.
So I return 1:30 am think I will try my luck with we-chat. There were at least 9'girls I never replied to. So one is the most friendly. So I text her / him. "I know I am not chatting with to a girl. ,all I ask is this girl shows up for the pic. And I want to see body in pic" the reply says. It is me. The girl, something about hiding from her family etc. I can visit you in 15 min. I asked her 1) are you friendly do you have a bad attitude? If you are angry I am going to sleep. She or he replies. I am friendly. . nice not like others. Somi cave in. Tell her to leave now. She arrives in 15 min.
I meet her in street walk her up. She is hot. Not like picture. Similar. They photoshop all the pics. So it is them. They just look a bit off. And not always in a terrible way. So she was cool all the way to the room. Friendly spirit. Asked my name. None "2" before had done so. Money up front? Agh shot here we go again. I was calm and diffused it better. She didn't cause a storm. ASAP jumps in the shower. Shuts the door. Strange? Then she comes out and like a militant. Gets real serious. I try to, make some small talk and take off towel. And she "shhusssssshes me" LOL and sort of pushes me back. ,rips off my boxers and takes control. It was a bit hot had I not get the impression she was having some sort of issue. So I try to touch her as she is sucking. And she gets feisty. They throws on comdom angry jumps on back and says boom boom. Sort of nasty like. Agh shit. I. Thinking here I go again. So I go to work and she wants me to drill her hard. Like she wants me to unload in 3 minutes. But not going to happen. I had 5 -6 beers and already an afternoon session. So after taking advantage of some steady porn strokes uncommon for short time workers she just flips in doggy with attitude. And again uncommon let's me completely drill her in doggy hard like. I will blow in any moment. Sadly her attitude at this point is killing my mojo and making it hard for me to, finish. She starts whimpering a bit. The flips back to missionary. She is now avoiding me. And now it is a very strange feeling. I don't want to say the word. I get tired. And ask for doggy to finish she refuses and now looks sad mad and upset. I mean only at most 5-10 minutes has gone by. She agrees angrily. And now almost starts crying. She has tat's on her back and side. Looks young but come on. This is. Or Her 1st rodeo. So now I am trying to finish. I do. As I get close to finishing. She is whaling harder. I mean really crying. I just want to finish. WTF! Almost like my enjoyment is giving her the most displeasure. Wow? So I finish her eyes are but dripping. I am so shocked and confused? I ask her are you ok? What is up? Did you text me? Her response. Pay me. That's it gets ready I pay her. Can I have taxi money. I said you won't answe 1 question,won't say a word but you will ask me for taxi money? She say F you. And walks out.
Guys Wtf? Please explain these workers. If they are some how not willing participants. Then this is terrible I have never had this happen before. Never. Been many places. How is this 2 in the same day both on we chat. Happy to enter but crazed and distraught leaving. And even during.
She'd some light? .
MutantChicken
07-14-15, 21:59
This is the standard when dealing with girls who target foreigners / tourist, they do that so you either think you hurting them and let them leave quickly OR you get annoyed with their attitude and kick them loose for shitty service. The more unhappy you are the faster they can leave, and the faster they can get their next punter. If you actually had a good time you will be keeping them around enjoying the post coitus glow. And now they don't care about repeat service as they know you around short term, and there will be another sucker waiting around to take them up. Guys who know better would never try wechat girls. As there are cheaper and better alternatives.
SportMongr
07-15-15, 16:09
This is the standard when dealing with girls who target foreigners / tourist, they do that so you either think you hurting them and let them leave quickly OR you get annoyed with their attitude and kick them loose for shitty service. The more unhappy you are the faster they can leave, and the faster they can get their next punter. If you actually had a good time you will be keeping them around enjoying the post coitus glow. And now they don't care about repeat service as they know you around short term, and there will be another sucker waiting around to take them up. Guys who know better would never try wechat girls. As there are cheaper and better alternatives.Thanks, as my wechat is beeping / going off. Dam! Just so easy. But yes $ for the offering. And did figure that crying bull crap could be a game. But some percent said it may be valid. As anything. If you get pegged as a short stay guy- you get screwed.
;) yes. I guess the "options" are discovered after many days / nights here and motorbike journey's. Which if you don't own one is hard to go cruising through the town at will. Thanks.
My buddy and I we have great fun trolling the working girls on wechat. We both chat to the same "girl" and compare prices, pics etc. Take it for what it is. A quickie service. Get your rocks off and move on. Don't expect them to give you pornstar exp or GF exp.
I had some good fortune in Ho Chi Minh with a nice girl, I was sitting outside a bar in D1 enjoying a few beers at Vietnamese prices not Westerner prices when a girl come up and sat at the same bar she instantly caught my eye after 30 minutes of her being alone I decide to go up and talk to her this was at 10:30 pm but her English was not good I was thinking oh I can't let this get in the way.
As I don't let things like that get in the way I instantly started using google translate to speak with her helps when your a little tipsy we ended up communicating using the phone and some basic English to 2 am where I went back to my room alone but the next day we communicated via SMS met up and spent the afternoon together I helped her with her English then engaged in complete GFE, the next night as well and a few others before I left and didn't cost me a thing besides normal expenses for a girl. Always good to know putting in a little effort can go a long way.
Problem is using WeChat your not going to get a true indication of what the girl is like personality wise unless you talk to her for sometime, at best you should expect a mechanical experience and if you get anything better then good for you.
I still prefer going out meeting a girl and building a rapport with her before exchanging any money as this gives me a better idea of the experience I will get although this always doesn't end up correct majority of the time its a better indication than using WeChat.
Your almost better off getting the moto drivers to take you to some seedy spots that have multiple girls working at least you can see what your getting not like on WeChat you get the unphotoshopped version hehe good times.
Problem is using WeChat your not going to get a true indication of what the girl is like personality wise unless you talk to her for sometime, at best you should expect a mechanical experience and if you get anything better then good for you.
I still prefer going out meeting a girl and building a rapport with her before exchanging any money as this gives me a better idea of the experience I will get although this always doesn't end up correct majority of the time its a better indication than using WeChat.
Your almost better off getting the moto drivers to take you to some seedy spots that have multiple girls working at least you can see what your getting not like on WeChat you get the unphotoshopped version hehe good times.Jiffypark,
The idea of talking to her for some time like you say is unrealistic. To start with most of these girls don't speak English. These girls are not here to become your friend they are here to get your money rush service then leave with your money. With we chat these girls are not driving to you to talk. You basically get a quick peak and they either stay GF leave. It is more realistic to talk with girls in bars or even hostess bars or coffee shop hostess places. That is if they can speak english. If they can they are only sitting with you because you are paying for them to sit with you also you are buying their over priced drinks.
First tie in Vietnam!
Totally ignorant, so I went thru the web to find escort sites to choose!
Not plenty of them and seems the girls displayed look nice 7, 8, 9/10.
I don't know and I am pessimistic about the reality of the pics and the rates!
Exple:
http://www.saigonescortservice.com/contact/index
http://saigonescortagency.com/sample-page
http://vietnamescortservice.com/
http://saigonescort.com
So anybody got the experience with any of these sites or who is a connoisseur on escort sites in Ho Chi Minh City.
I will appreciate any feedback.
Thank you
First tie in Vietnam!
Totally ignorant, so I went thru the web to find escort sites to choose!
Not plenty of them and seems the girls displayed look nice 7, 8, 9/10.
I don't know and I am pessimistic about the reality of the pics and the rates!
Exple:
http://www.saigonescortservice.com/contact/index
http://saigonescortagency.com/sample-page
http://vietnamescortservice.com/
http://saigonescort.com
So anybody got the experience with any of these sites or who is a connoisseur on escort sites in Ho Chi Minh City.
I will appreciate any feedback.
Thank youMario,
You may not still be in Vietnam and just saw your post so will answer it. First off you are in what I call Viet Scam. I looked at two of the escort sites on your list. One listed prices as $300 USD for 1-3 hours. I will start here. A normal person or just a sucker would assume that means the girl will be with you for 3 hours. But, what that would mean in really is no matter how much you pay the girl is going to come to your room and try to make you cum ASAP so if she gets you to cum in 5 minutes then she will shower an is out the door. Remember these are not legit businesses and who are you going to complain to the police? So it is probably a waste to pay for an escort especially if they are charging $300 USD an hour.
Vietnam has beauty salons all over the place that are places for a BBBJ or FS. Cost is 400-500 Dong. Do research on site and you will figure what I am talking about. By the way there is no list of massage parlors or brothels so you have to go on the street and actually walk. If you walk 2 or 3 blocks you will find them. They are everywhere. The woman are beautiful but service is usually rushed. If you already left Vietnam where is your trip report?
AmericanThief
08-29-15, 04:26
Vietnam has beauty salons all over the place that are places for a BBBJ or FS. Cost is 400-500 Dong. Tell me exactly where I can get FS at a beauty salon for 4-5 hundred. D1, D5, D4 or Binh Chanh. And don't tell me they are all over the place. I see those girls with the cocktail dresses, heavy make-up, big hair sitting around "Beauty Salon".
But they don't do FS and for sure not for 4-500,000 vnd.
Tell me exactly where I can get FS at a beauty salon for 4-5 hundred. D1, D5, D4 or Binh Chanh. And don't tell me they are all over the place. I see those girls with the cocktail dresses, heavy make-up, big hair sitting around "Beauty Salon".
But they don't do FS and for sure not for 4-500,000 vnd.American Thief,
Take some deep breaths and lose the attitude. Cost 500,000 dong for BBBJ only! FS is usually 1 million on top of the 500 to get in. Because of the way you asked find them yourself. If you are having problem finding woman in Vietnam. The problem is not Vietnam it is you.
Tell me exactly where I can get FS at a beauty salon for 4-5 hundred. D1, D5, D4 or Binh Chanh. And don't tell me they are all over the place. I see those girls with the cocktail dresses, heavy make-up, big hair sitting around "Beauty Salon".
But they don't do FS and for sure not for 4-500,000 vnd.Yeah I hate when people say "they're everywhere!" No offense Tom, but that's not really useable info. And not true, really. There's some salons where one can get BJ for that price, and they sure aren't everywhere. "Everywhere" would be HJ only. And even then, it's hard to find ones with true lookers.
Avoid the street hawks at all cost, they are most of the time dirty, drug addicts, forced into it by a pimp and will always provide bad service with bad attitude. The 50 $ short time at the hotel is I think safer and a better option even if again you will probably get a bad attitude from the girl. By the way, can you indicate where this hotel was? Is it the one near Dong Khoi behind grand hotel in a small alley?
If you want a nice Viet girl with good service you better get a FL in a bar or club like Apocalypse, at least you can talk a bit and feel the vibe first, but expect to pay higher price, I think 100 $ for 2 hours with 2 shots with a nice girl is reasonable for foreigners and tourists. Try also to catch a FL online, check the thread about this topic.
This is Vietnam, not Thailand, you can get a lot of disappointment before you finally get the shag of your life!
Enjoy!Hi all,
If you have to choose between HCMC and PP, where would you go?
I've never been to either HCMC or PP but planning for my 2 weeks SEA vacation and this time, I want to visit at least one of them if not both.
I don't know Khmer girl but I had good times with Viet girl in Macau many times and I always wanted to visit HCMC once.
As I finish reading report on both HCMC & PP as far back as a year or so in the forum here, I still can tell if it is a good idea to go anymore.
(So much negative report on things going down hill, problem bringing girl to hotel, etc, etc.).
It's just that China, Hong Kong and Macau (my usual destination) are now much more expensive to do anymore.
Any of your IMOO would be appreciated.
Yeah I hate when people say "they're everywhere!" No offense Tom, but that's not really useable info. And not true, really. There's some salons where one can get BJ for that price, and they sure aren't everywhere. "Everywhere" would be HJ only. And even then, it's hard to find ones with true lookers.Well Vietnam in not Thailand. In Vietnam you have to walk. The Hot toks will be about 8 minute walk apart from each other. Then you have girls on motor bikes that are working. Then you have during the evening touts asking you if they can call you a girl standing in front of a short time hotel. So although you don't see hookers standing in the street like Thailand or hiding in the corners like in China. There is a lot of action in Vietnam. I will add rushed action. We do not have a guide to all the action in Vietnam and I don't think there will ever be one. If I go to Vietnam that is my only mission for the whole day. That is all I do because that is my trip. Now if you are only have a limited time to monger. You may have to get just a HJ sometimes from a beautiful girl.
American Thief,
Take some deep breaths and lose the attitude. Cost 500,000 dong for BBBJ only! FS is usually 1 million on top of the 500 to get in. Because of the way you asked find them yourself. If you are having problem finding woman in Vietnam. The problem is not Vietnam it is you.
Good grief! American Thief has lived, worked and mongered in Vietnam for about 3 years. I remember communicating with him (mainly about China) a couple of years ago when he was living in HCMC.
TomSf has visited Vietnam once, for about 3 days, and now he is writing in a condescending manner at AT!
Whose posts would you give more credence to?
Cheers,
Ikksman
I have been to Vietnam 10 X in 7 years and PP only once but I would pick PP. PP is cheaper and more bars but not too much sight-seeing.
Hi all,
If you have to choose between HCMC and PP, where would you go?
I've never been to either HCMC or PP but planning for my 2 weeks SEA vacation and this time, I want to visit at least one of them if not both.
I don't know Khmer girl but I had good times with Viet girl in Macau many times and I always wanted to visit HCMC once.
As I finish reading report on both HCMC & PP as far back as a year or so in the forum here, I still can tell if it is a good idea to go anymore.
(So much negative report on things going down hill, problem bringing girl to hotel, etc, etc.).
It's just that China, Hong Kong and Macau (my usual destination) are now much more expensive to do anymore.
Any of your IMOO would be appreciated..
Hi all,
If you have to choose between HCMC and PP, where would you go?
I've never been to either HCMC or PP but planning for my 2 weeks SEA vacation and this time, I want to visit at least one of them if not both.
I don't know Khmer girl but I had good times with Viet girl in Macau many times and I always wanted to visit HCMC once.
As I finish reading report on both HCMC & PP as far back as a year or so in the forum here, I still can tell if it is a good idea to go anymore.
(So much negative report on things going down hill, problem bringing girl to hotel, etc, etc.).
It's just that China, Hong Kong and Macau (my usual destination) are now much more expensive to do anymore.
Any of your IMOO would be appreciated.Phnom Penh is much better for mongering than Ho Chi Minh City. PP is cheaper, easier and with more selection. But why don't you choice both? There is only 30 minut in a plane or 6 hour in a bus between them. If you like tourism I can recommend a boattrip from HCMC to PP. Take maybe 3 days.
Wander Luster
09-05-15, 07:46
I'm going to work remotely in SEA for 4-6 months in January 2016. I've spent much time in there, especially the PH. I care more about find GFs than the hobby. I ten to fall to easy into hobby life when it's cheap and easy like the PH, but I'd rather do some "dating" IF I'm not getting blue balls during the proccess. Mostly, the PH and I guess Thailand it's pretty easy to find smart (a requirement) girls that put out by second date and are GF material. But I know HCM is much more "traditional" and wonder if that process sucks because of the "courting" required. Or, maybe HCM is modern enough now that it's not a problem.
"Girls" I'll date will be about 30: I'm late 40's, with a lot going for me that helps w / women.
What you guys could REALLLLY help with is pointing me to resources on this topic of finding a GF in Vietnam's bigger cities and how much it's just a cock tease if one's not willing to wait for 10 dates for anything to happen. Ultimately, I want a GF, but "courting" is not for me.
FYI: the "pick up artist websites" are pretty good for that, but there's not enough info. I wish people on here would use "reports of distinction" more. Since topics are not really arranged "threaded" here it takes a super long time to find what we're looking for. I guess I should also just try a search for "GF" and "Vietnam"! Enjoy the life.
Cheers,
Wander Luster.
AmericanThief
09-06-15, 06:34
Good grief! American Thief has lived, worked and mongered in Vietnam for about 3 years. I remember communicating with him (mainly about China) a couple of years ago when he was living in HCMC.
TomSf has visited Vietnam once, for about 3 days, and now he is writing in a condescending manner at AT!
Whose posts would you give more credence to?
Cheers,
IkksmanI'm still in HCMC, going on year 4.
One night while driving from district 5 to district 7, along a street called Ba Trac (if you go over the bridge at the end of Nguyen Van see you, it's this street in District 8 you come onto). I reached the roundabout at the end of this street, it has a big karaoke on one side of it, and there's a palm tree lined street if you go straight ahead. There's a few big outdoor restaurants you pass on the right. Standing at the entrance to an alley between 2 of these restaurants I spotted a cute young thing, on the tall side, very slim, more of the teenager type body, with the long thin but shapely legs in a quite short skirt. It was one of those moments when you are just on your way somewhere and you see one that makes you go Wow, now SHE is hot. She was carrying 2 different phones and looking back and forth between the 2 of them. I slowed down to get a look. She looked like she was alone, but most likely she was meeting someone, or about to be picked up by her boyfriend after eating at the restaurant. I guess. This was about 10 pm. I continued on, then when I was half way around the roundabout I thought, what the hell, go back, see what is up. I went back round the whole circle, back to where she was. She was still fiddling with her 2 phones. So I went around the whole roundabout again. This time, as I made the turn, I saw that she was now walking away, crossing the street going in the direction of the palm tree street, which is much darker. There are a few street food sellers over there. I slowed down and waited to see where she would go next. She walked awkwardly in her high heel sandals. Finally she crossed to the other side, she first talked to a vendor, then she moved past them and went to an area past the food stalls over there. She stopped and went back to looking at her 2 phones again. She had the look of someone who was waiting for someone she knew to come pick her up, and it seemed like the phone business was that she was trying to contact them. (him, I guess) Now I think, OK, this is ridiculous, I am wasting so much time on this and this is nothing. Still, part of me thinks, maybe just maybe she could be working. Available. But here? Nobody works here. I've seen lots of street girls and motorbike girls here, and she did not look like one. But something was not right. Everything is telling me that this is stupid because this girl is just some young girl waiting for someone she knows to come pick her up after dinner. And then I see how short that skirt is, those sexy legs, and I think, but what if she's not. Maybe. Finally of course I decide to do the crazy thing. I will drive up and call her over and find out. So I drive slowly up, and stop in front of where she is very focused on her phones now. She doesn't notice me. This is not a good sign. Girls who are working notice. I call out to her, them. She looks up at me. The expression on her face is pure confusion. Not hostile, just more like she's being interrupted in the middle of something and has no idea why a stranger would be calling her from the side of the road. A foreigner, no less. She tentatively walks over toward me with the quizzical expression. I try to say it, my voice tensing up because I actually feel super nervous as I ask, because I feel like I'm making a complete fool of myself here. "them co ranh khong?" She inches closer, not understanding my bad Vietnamese, trying to get what I'm talking about, still confused. "them muon di. Them muon di khach san?" (holy shit I said it.) She says something in Vietnamese that I don't understand. It doesn't seem like no. She doesn't seem insulted. Then I said "nam tram ngan" It seems like an eternity for the idea to process in her head. Then suddenly "OK" and she moves over and jumps on the back of my bike. I am kind of in shock. I can't believe this has just happened, and now we are on the bike together heading to a hotel. I have no idea where though. She tells me where to go, basically up toward district 7, after the bridge there are some short time hotels, across from RMIT. We go to one she seems to know and they reject us (because I'm a foreigner and no I. The.). We go to another one and everything is fine. She seemed giggly and silly as we made the walk of shame. We took a lift up and got into a room. She wanted to do a shower, and she let me watch as she got undressed and took the shower. Heavenly slim body. Smallish but perfect-shaped breasts, nice curves, slim long legs. Very fresh looking. She wasn't too keen on me directing the action. I wanted her to come sit in my lap, she was much more in favor of lying on her back and spreading her legs. Then I tried to start some french kissing, but she didn't want to. I offered her a tip to do it, 100 thousand. No. I looked at those full young lips. 200 thousand? "OK. " Wow. So then we started that and it went for like 20 seconds before she couldn't stand it any more. I was just starting to get revved up when she begged out of it. Oh well. I tried my best to slow things down, but she wanted to get to the main event. She kept a playful attitude but didn't seem to love me feeling her butt (lovely butt). Finally she got on top of me and put me inside her, and I started thrusting away, and that's when her phone rang. One of them. She answered as if it was perfectly natural to answer the phone and have a conversation while having sex. She answered while sitting on me, gradually I slowed down my thrusting as she blabbed away in Vietnamese on the phone. She gave me the international sign language that means "just one minute". Strangely, I didn't feel angry at all about this. It was just yet one more bizarre twist in this very weird story. And she was so hot and adorable. She finished her call and made up for it by being extra affectionate after that. We continued on and honestly I was a bit too desperate this night and she was too hot, and I came too fast as a result. She seemed very happy when we were done, and I just gave her the 700 thousand rather than haggle over the less-than-satisfying round of kissing. Before we left she had another phone call and seemed really happy at whatever else had happened that night, some kind of good news, or maybe our thing was part of it, who knows. By the end, I felt like this hotel visit was a bit messed up by the phone call and not being able to control the situation. But I felt like I could try again some time, so I got her phone number. In small talk, I found out that she works at a restaurant in district 5, so maybe she was just a normal girl after all. She even told me the address of the restaurant, and it was in an area that I often drive through, back in district 5. But that's the end of this story for now.
MutantChicken
09-20-15, 05:42
That area is known for the ST hotels used by local freelancers, so yeah she might not be as innocent as she claims.
So I have tried Badoo in HMCM. I have had a lot of girls showing of & wanting more.
20 yo 1,5 million for all night incl hotel. (didn't do it because I was too tired after travelling).
23 yo 400.000 1 shot BBBJ + 1 Shot FS incl hotel (meeting up with her tomorrow again).
+ a couple of more offers to meet.
Also Hotel Spa 4 star hotel, 200.000 HJ after 60 minutes great massage!
But Badoo is absolutely great to get fast & easy results!
I have not posted for a while, because frankly, I wasn't doing any mongering to speak of. In 2014 I went to a Tet party and met a lot of people, and one married lady put her number.
Into my cell phone, which led to a lot of texting and talking. I was frankly curious, so I kept it up until one day, she told me she wanted to spend some time alone with me. I questioned.
The wisdom of that, but she insisted. So finally I told her that if I met her, I would make love to her. She insisted anyway, so we met, and I did. That story is for another time. Now,
During the same visit to Vietnam of myself and my wife, I was finally introduced to all of her and her sisters' rich female friends. I guess they now considered me old and "safe". In fact,
A whole bunch of us went to Vung Tau for a few days, to just eat seafood and hang out. On that trip, two more of those Viet women let me know in no uncertain terms that they were.
Available for me, anytime I wanted. Wow. A few days later, a really good family friend, a Bac Si, a female Doctor, basically let me know the same thing. Now, I am thinking, "what in.
The fuck is going on in Vietnam? Is it something in the water? In the air?" Vietnamese women, in my view, were never like that before, at least, not to my knowledge. And guys,
I am an old fart, no spring chicken, but the women slyly hint around and let me know I can have them if I want. This year, we did not go at Tet, but later on, a couple of months later.
And suffice it to say, I was very busy, but never once made it to NPK or Bennys. I did make it to the Hotel Hon En once only. I just didn't have the energy, to be honest. So I will.
Say this; do not overlook the slightly older women who are either lonely, or horny, or both. Social and sexual mores are changing in Vietnam, thanks to HBO, Showtime and the damn.
TV. Ha ha ha ha Just saying, guys, take a damn good look, and don't cull many out of the herd, cause you might just surprise yourself. Viet women are different. The older women.
All will do BBBJCIM and they know ways to use their throat I have not found anywhere else.
Good hunting!
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ILoveChicas
09-21-15, 06:42
Hadlock,
Thanks for your post. Just curious about good locations or places for meeting slightly older ladies?
Regards.
First I just want to say, it's been years since I'd been on here. When this site changed domain (for those of you who joined then you'll understand how long ago that was), I somehow never made it to new one. Until today when I met another bro he told me it still exist. So here I am. Back for good. Still spending way too much money punting after all these years. I want to share a mini-guide I put together for KTV scene in HCMC (Saigon). Feel free to correct or update if I missed out on any detail:
1. Korean-owned / managed KTV.
Pros:
- Transparent price structure / system.
- Package usually inclusive (alcohol, mixer, side dishes and tips for mgmt / madam / waiter).
- Rule of Engagement with girls clear (short-time / long-time / no go-home. Although there's always exception to the rule. But if girls in go-home category mean they WILL go back to hotel).
- Strict system for girls (no mobile phone, no butterfly).
- If you get along well with girls, you can sometimes arrange for them (at cost) to come out to see you saving you money on drink package and tips in the process.
- If you get along well with madam (and regular customer), you can arrange for them to send girls to you directly every once-in-a-while bypassing going to KTV.
Cons:
- Usually 1st tiers girls do not work here.
Price Structure:
- $150-300 USD drink package (depends on class of alcohol).
- 2 million VND short time and 3 million VND long time.
- Tip to girls who don't go home but sit with you: 400-500 k VND.
- Specific Korean-owned KTV even have the one-person price package popular in Japanese KTV. So you can visit solo without having to pay for the typical $170 USD package.
Sample Name:
Stocking, Bally.
2. VN-managed KTV focusing on Korean / Japanese customers.
Pros:
- Transparent price structure / system.
- Package usually partially inclusive (alcohol, mixer, side dishes. Tips for mgmt / madam / waiter usually not included but you can ask them to add that cost to overall bill).
- Rule of Engagement with girls clear (short-time / long-time / no go-home. Although there's always exception to the rule. But if girls in go-home category mean they WILL go back to hotel).
- Semi-strict system for girls (usually no butterfly).
Cons:
- Usually 1st tiers girls do not work here.
Price Structure:
- $150-300 USD drink package (depends on class of alcohol).
- 2 million VND short time and 3 million VND long time.
- Girls usually expect you to buy them drink or cocktail (that's where they make money). I forgot how much for each glass. You should ask. But I think less than 100 k per.
- Tip to Madam, 400-500 k VND.
- Tip to waiter, 100 k VND (although more than one will come into room end of night hoping for 100 k each!. Just stick to your gun).
Sample Name:
Louis and Sirena.
3. Japanese-owned KTV.
Pros:
- Transparent price structure / system.
- Package for one person possible (because Japanese as likely to go by themselves).
- Package usually inclusive (alcohol, mixer, side dishes and tips for mgmt / madam / waiter).
- Rule of engagement with girls clear.
- Strict system for girls (no mobile phone, no butterfly).
- Girls speak Japanese.
- Girls who work here usually student at university.
Cons:
- Usually 1st tiers girls do not work here.
- Girls at these joints usually don't go home.
- Girls usually don't speak English.
- Girls here do look for long-term sponsor as opposed to short-time money of fucking.
Price structure:
- $30-50 USD drink package per person (unlimited drink off their select menu).
- Tip to girls who don't go home but sit with you: no need assuming you buy them couple glasses of alcohol / cocktail.
Sample Name:
Japantown area in the pocket of NGO Van Nam right off LE Than Ton.
4. VN-owned / managed KTV focusing on local high-rollers.
Pros:
- 1st tier VN girls work here. You likely will get of the best looking ones / selections (of course there are also 2nd tiers).
- Package usually partially inclusive (alcohol, mixer, side dishes. Tips for mgmt / madam / waiter usually not included but you can ask them to add that cost to overall bill).
Cons:
- Best looking girls here have HIGH expectation in term of how much you pay them to fuck. Hell even 2nd tier girls will try to get more from you if they think it's possible.
- Most of the best girls look for sugar daddy / long-term sponsor.
- Rich locals / high-rollers and expats spoiled the market.
- Rule of Engagement with girls not-clear (if girls say they'll meet you at after work. Most likely will never show up. And mgmt could care less if you bitched to them. See below).
- Most of the madam / managers speak only Vietnamese or very little English. Don't care too much about your satisfaction unless you're regular customers that tip them regularly.
- Crazy price and poor ROP: In place like 16 where you arguably get best selection of girls look-wise, it's 1 million VND tip and they don't go out.
- Against Odds. You're fighting against rich locals / expats who will go back over-and-over in order to win specific girls they're targeting. Along the way dropping some serious dough with nothing to show for. I'd seen some of the conversation messages between them and these customers. And it's laughable.
- Buffalo. Unless you look like Lee Minh Ho (they prefer him to Brad Pitt), only size of your bank account can make you look handsome. Otherwise, they think of you same way as water buffalo back home. Same level of intelligence and good for plowing their rice field (in this case their bank account).
Price structure:
- $150-300 USD drink package (depends on class of alcohol).
- 3-4 million VND short time.
- 500 k to 1 million VND (Tip to girls that sit with you but don't go out.
- Tip to Madam, 500 k VND.
- Tip to waiter, 100 k VND (although more than one will come into room end of night hoping for 100 k each!. Just stick to your gun).
Sample Name:
166, Dmax, 13.
5. VN-owned / managed KTV focusing on local middle class.
Pros:
- Transparent price structure / system.
- Package usually partially inclusive (alcohol, mixer, side dishes. Tips for mgmt / madam / waiter usually not included but you can ask them to add that cost to overall bill).
- Rule of Engagement with girls clear (short-time / long-time / no go-home. Although there's always exception to the rule. But if girls in go-home category mean they WILL go back to hotel).
- Semi-strict system for girls (usually no butterfly).
- If you get along well with girls, you can sometimes arrange for them (at cost) to come out to see you saving you money on drink package and tips in the process.
Cons:
- Usually 1st tiers girls do not work here.
Price Structure:
- $150-250 USD drink package (depends on class of alcohol. Includes mixers).
- Food price usually separate and cost ALOT relative to VN.
- 2 million VND short time and 3 million VND long time.
- Tip to girls who don't go home but sit with you: 400-500 k VND.
- Tip to Madam, 400-500 k VND.
- Tip to waiter, 100 k VND (although more than one will come into room end of night hoping for 100 k each!. Just stick to your gun).
Sample Name:
68.
6. HK-owned / managed KTV focusing on HK / SG customers.
Pros:
- You do have some mix of 1st tier VN girls work here. Still not as much in term of percentage as opposed to VN joints.
- Package usually partially inclusive (alcohol, mixer, side dishes. Tips for mgmt / madam / waiter usually not included but you can ask them to add that cost to overall bill).
Cons:
- Best looking girls here have high expectation in term of how much you pay them to fuck. Hell even 2nd tier girls will try to get more from you if they think it's possible.
- Most of the best girls look for sugar daddy / long-term sponsor.
- Rich HK / SG visitors and expat spoiled the market.
- Rule of Engagement with girls not-clear (if girls say they'll meet you at after work. Most likely will never show up. And mgmt could care less if you bitched to them. See below).
- Most of the madam / managers speak only Chinese well. English skill varies. Don't care too much about your satisfaction unless you're regular customers that tip them regularly.
Price Structure:
- $200-300 USD drink package (depends on class of alcohol).
- 4 million VND short time.
- 500 k Tip to girls that sit with you but don't go out.
- Tip to Madam, 500 k VND.
- Tip to waiter, 100 k VND.
Sample name:
Catwalk
Hi all,
If you have to choose between HCMC and PP, where would you go?
I've never been to either HCMC or PP but planning for my 2 weeks SEA vacation and this time, I want to visit at least one of them if not both.
I don't know Khmer girl but I had good times with Viet girl in Macau many times and I always wanted to visit HCMC once.
As I finish reading report on both HCMC & PP as far back as a year or so in the forum here, I still can tell if it is a good idea to go anymore.
(So much negative report on things going down hill, problem bringing girl to hotel, etc, etc.).
It's just that China, Hong Kong and Macau (my usual destination) are now much more expensive to do anymore.
Any of your IMOO would be appreciated.It depends on your taste. If your taste runs more toward Asian; white skin and North Asian look. Then HCMC is better for you. If your taste runs toward Western. Exotic / darker skin with Thai Isaan type look (which you typically find at Soi Cowboy, Nana, Patpong), then PP is for you. My taste runs squarely Asian.
I'm based in HCMC. Went to PP two months ago on a casino / mongering run. Visited 20 different bars, couple KTVs, 1 high-end pick-up bars and 3 agents.
My conclusion, most 'bars' selection in PP definitely not to my taste. Out of that 20 bars visits, only found 1 WG that I would consider paying for. Those bars at famous strips. Numerous they maybe. But remind me completely of Soi Cowboy / Nana in Bangkok (in term of appearance / feel. Something I would almost never visit unless I have foreign visitors insist on going there specifically). Went through agents with 20 different line-up none to our likings. For KTV, we ended up choosing Vietnamese out of the line-ups!
Something my friend predicted I would do. Cost for VN WG at KTV high than Cambodian WG. Same as HCMC actually / ironically.
Only at high end pick-up bar (at Naga Hotel) did I (and my travel buddy) finally see larger selection of Cambodian that fit our taste. Then again, they can cost even higher than their VN counterpart (quoted up to $200 USD). My two cents.
2015 Guide to KTV in (Vietnam)(HCMC) aka SaigonWow, such a great report, thanks much for that. Can I ask some questions?
1. How can we find these places? Catwalk is obvious but the rest are much less so. The Korean owned ones, would those be ones in Phu My Hung? Or near airport?
2. You didn't give the ST / LT rates for most of these places, that would be good to know.
I guess this is your type of venue of choice, the KTV's? I've rarely done them because I don't like going out in a group, and they're prohibitively expensive for someone doing it solo, not to mention awkward.
It's too bad you don't have PM yet.
Wow, such a great report, thanks much for that. Can I ask some questions?
1. How can we find these places? Catwalk is obvious but the rest are much less so. The Korean owned ones, would those be ones in Phu My Hung? Or near airport?
2. You didn't give the ST / LT rates for most of these places, that would be good to know.
I guess this is your type of venue of choice, the KTV's? I've rarely done them because I don't like going out in a group, and they're prohibitively expensive for someone doing it solo, not to mention awkward.
It's too bad you don't have PM yet.1. Would be happy to share over PM. Most of them are in D1 actually. D7 is where they (Korean expats) live so that's too close for comfort.
2. Thought I gave ST / LT rate. Please look at price structure section for each category.
3. KTV my type because I historically get best GFE. At this stage of punting, I don't get as much satisfaction from straight banging WGs at MP. I prefer BBBJ at HotToc over that actually although I still go to MP for quick fix every once-in-a-while. With KTV, I can have couple on calls that I can sometime have over without having to go through KTV routine (save time / money).
Yes, KTV route can be more expensive but if you look at it this way. Wechat WG usually 1 million VND one-shot (usually 30-40 minutes max). Assuming you even get one that looks like photo which is less than 5% my empirical statistic. For those that look like photo, the chance of you getting anything remotely decent is single digit %. With KTV girls, I have some who come over for short-time but stay long time without charging extra. Usually no hurries. Best number of guys is 4 in term of going out to KTV and split central bill.
Let me think about upgrading my account since I just rejoined after 6+ years away from this forum. Always have soft spot for ISG since it's my first punting forum ever.
Ba Trac
That area is known for the ST hotels used by local freelancers, so yeah she might not be as innocent as she claims.There were more clues too, the fact that she knew which ST hotels to go to near there. Actually not very near. To go all the way over to the edge of D7 right after the red bridge, that was quite far and unnecessary. If she knew of hotels in that area she was in, where I found her, that would have been better.
Anyway, she gave me the address of her restaurant. It was on An Duong Vuong in D5. Later I went past there and found it. Ha, it was a karaoke. Well technically it was a restaurant but all the bikes were parked facing backwards and there was a pink light in there.
A few nights later I thought I would try it again. I phoned her. The phone was off. Uh oh. I made space in this evening to be able to do this, but I kept phoning and getting that message the subscriber is not available. I tried and tried. Same message, all day. In my experience when this happens, that number usually doesn't work again. But I thought OK I will try again tomorrow. Then the next day I sent I phoned again, and today it was ON again. Wow. Sent a message asking to meet 7 pm. Reply: OK. We set it up for the same location to meet up, at that roundabout. So at 7 pm I went there. Parked side of the road near the vendors in a very visible spot and waited. Cold evening. After about 10 minutes a motorbike with a guy and a girl on the back stop in front of me. He's a driver, and she is the girl. She's wearing a jacket and jeans and sneakers. Something is different. Not that jolt of Wow she's so sexy like last time. It was a bit disappointing to see what she was wearing this time. We drove to the hotel. We ended up in the same room again. She did her shower and now I noticed what was different. She had lots of makeup on. Not the colors they do on eyes, or cheeks, or lipstick, but only the stuff that goes evenly on the face. A whole layer of that. With that on, it actually made her face look unattractive. A real turnoff. Well there was no phone call this time, but she was really resistant to doing what I wanted, just wanted to get to missionary ASAP. She seemed in a really good mood when we were done. I drove her back to her roundabout again after that. It seemed like this was going to take a bit of work to get her to do things my way, and maybe she just wouldn't. And now I wasn't sure it would be worth trying.
I told her I would be busy the next 2 weeks and I would get in touch after that. Actually I had family visiting and it would be impossible to get away again, so there was no point. As it turned out, she ignored what I told her, and kept sending me messages starting just a couple days later. I didn't reply because I didn't want to encourage her to send more. Basically it was going to be awkward if a certain someone (who was always around at this time) saw these messages on my phone, and she kept sending them. It was getting to be a problem. After about 5 or 6 days of getting her messages, I finally decided that I would not reply again, cut this off. Sometimes I'd imagine what our next meeting could be like, thinking of ways to try to take control of the situation and make it better, and honestly it just wasn't getting me too excited.
So that's how it ended, finally she gave up. A couple months later for some reason I got turned on by the idea of going with her again. I called the number, and it wasn't working any more. I tried a few times over a couple weeks, but it was definitely no longer working. So that was that.
I know, it's not that exciting a story. It's funny how something like makeup can be that big a turnoff. And also annoying text messages.
Let me think about upgrading my account since I just rejoined after 6+ years away from this forum. Always have soft spot for ISG since it's my first punting forum ever.There's a certain number of posts you make (and a certain amount of time after registering) and you get upgraded to senior member from regular, and that gives you PM and a few other things, but less than a subcription account. Maybe someone here knows what those numbers are that you need. Or maybe you can recover your old account from years ago, see if it still exists. Or like you said, maybe you can just subscribe.
Is there some way to look up those KTV's you mention, like online? A well known one is Fortune in D5, noticed that you didn't mention that one. There's also a few well known ones on Nguyen Bieu and An Duong Vuong and near there.
MutantChicken
09-22-15, 19:37
Anyway, she gave me the address of her restaurant. It was on An Duong Vuong in D5. Later I went past there and found it. Ha, it was a karaoke. Well technically it was a restaurant but all the bikes were parked facing backwards and there was a pink light in there..That isn't a restaurant. That's a bia om / KTV. And she is a gloried working girl. Packaged as a hostess. So yeah what you saying makes sense, 700 k isn't a bad price but for that shitty service and the hassles of organising a meeting. Not worth the effort.
That isn't a restaurant. That's a bia om / KTV. And she is a gloried working girl. Packaged as a hostess. So yeah what you saying makes sense, 700 k isn't a bad price but for that shitty service and the hassles of organising a meeting. Not worth the effort.Exactly, it's a bia om. I think on the sign outside it does say "nha hang" but of course it's not really a restaurant. I can drive past there soon and report what the exact address was. This happened a few months ago so maybe she doesn't work there now any more. Also on the night she had her phone off because she said she was at work and couldn't turn on her phone, that was Friday. But her phone was on again on Saturday, and in fact she didn't work that night because she met me. So that seems a bit strange, that she can work at a bia om but not need to report to work on Saturday night.
Because the 700 was explicitly for sex plus kissing, I could have paid just 500 K, which would be quite a good price I think and especially for such a fresh young girl with such an excellent body. It would have taken some real effort to "train" her, but at that price might have been worth it, or even at the 700 price. But at the time I just felt too annoyed to go through with it.
I still wonder what she was doing way down there at that roundabout that night. Was she standing round hoping to be picked up by a customer, the way I did? And why the two-phone business. Just some decoy action, or what? And why would she know of those hotels way over in D7 but not there in D8 (or maybe it's Binh Chanh there) where she actually was waiting about? So many weird details.
Medellin Kuya
09-29-15, 21:46
Hey everyone,
29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.
What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?
I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days. I liked the city overall, but it is not good for a short trip trying to hookup with girls. Most of the girls I met online where very conservative, traditional, and shy. I think it would take numerous dates and maybe being their BF to get in their pants. I went out in D1 alone for nightlife a few times and it was God awful. Every place was dead and very expensive. I met one Westernized girl online who seemed very slutty. We went to the freelance bar in D1. Can't remember the name, but its the main one. Me and the girl were dancing and making out hardcore. I thought this was a sure sign she was down to fuck so within an hour or so I told her to lets go. She is asking me where we are going, can't remember what I said. Once we arrive at my hotel she does not want to go in. It took me awhile to get her to agree to come to my room. Once in the room I tried everything but she would not let me fuck. I keep pushing and persisting. There was a split second where she grabbed my cock and motioned it towards her pussy but I was soft by that time. Then she went back to defense mode. I gave up and just went to sleep.
Vietnam was the only country I didn't get laid in on my SEA tour. Tsk Tsk.
Vietnam is a place to spend an extended amount of time. The girls are more marriage material in my opinion. Not a place for a dude to go and bang a lot of easy girls like Philippines.
NguyetLang
10-05-15, 15:03
Hey everyone,
29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.
What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?
I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days. I liked the city overall, but it is not good for a short trip trying to hookup with girls. Most of the girls I met online where very conservative, traditional, and shy. I think it would take numerous dates and maybe being their BF to get in their pants. I went out in D1 alone for nightlife a few times and it was God awful. Every place was dead and very expensive. I met one Westernized girl online who seemed very slutty. We went to the freelance bar in D1. Can't remember the name, but its the main one. Me and the girl were dancing and making out hardcore. I thought this was a sure sign she was down to fuck so within an hour or so I told her to lets go. She is asking me where we are going, can't remember what I said. Once we arrive at my hotel she does not want to go in. It took me awhile to get her to agree to come to my room. Once in the room I tried everything but she would not let me fuck. I keep pushing and persisting. There was a split second where she grabbed my cock and motioned it towards her pussy but I was soft by that time. Then she went back to defense mode. I gave up and just went to sleep.
Vietnam was the only country I didn't get laid in on my SEA tour. Tsk Tsk.
Vietnam is a place to spend an extended amount of time. The girls are more marriage material in my opinion. Not a place for a dude to go and bang a lot of easy girls like Philippines.I agree that for English speaking girls, VN is still underdevelopment. FL girls are available at the D1 bars. You just happened to encounter one that wants to marry a westerner to move out of country. There are other FL girls at the bars. Just keep going after them. Many members here reported good luck at Apocalypse Now on Thi Sach street. So, go there, young man!
For quick releases you may try those HTGD (hair salons) on NPK street. There are even quicker services in cafe-om and beer-om. Bottom line, the girls are there, just have to spend some time and efforts (not too much). In general, I can vouch for looks and selection, VN is the best in southeast Asia for those two criteria (I. E. , young, thin, and pretty, and plenty of them). But service depends, its all over the map. I have encountered a wide range, from starfish, to mechanical, to wild nymphomaniacs.
Good luck, and enjoy Vietnam.
Fast Eddie 48
10-05-15, 22:13
Hey everyone,
29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.
What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?
I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days. I liked the city overall, but it is not good for a short trip trying to hookup with girls. Most of the girls I met online where very conservative, traditional, and shy. I think it would take numerous dates and maybe being their BF to get in their pants. I went out in D1 alone for nightlife a few times and it was God awful. Every place was dead and very expensive. I met one Westernized girl online who seemed very slutty. We went to the freelance bar in D1. Can't remember the name, but its the main one. Me and the girl were dancing and making out hardcore. I thought this was a sure sign she was down to fuck so within an hour or so I told her to lets go. She is asking me where we are going, can't remember what I said. Once we arrive at my hotel she does not want to go in. It took me awhile to get her to agree to come to my room. Once in the room I tried everything but she would not let me fuck. I keep pushing and persisting. There was a split second where she grabbed my cock and motioned it towards her pussy but I was soft by that time. Then she went back to defense mode. I gave up and just went to sleep.
Vietnam was the only country I didn't get laid in on my SEA tour. Tsk Tsk.
Vietnam is a place to spend an extended amount of time. The girls are more marriage material in my opinion. Not a place for a dude to go and bang a lot of easy girls like Philippines.To Cali.
You didn't get laid in Vietnam because you don't want to P4 P viet girl in HMC is all about money, I find girl here attuide is not as good as in PI or other country in asia , I don't why you think viet are marriage material if you never even bang one yet just stay in PI girl there are the best GFE in the world.
Fast eddie 48.
Medellin Kuya
10-06-15, 11:51
To Cali.
You didn't get laid in Vietnam because you don't want to P4 P viet girl in HMC is all about money, I find girl here attuide is not as good as in PI or other country in asia , I don't why you think viet are marriage material if you never even bang one yet just stay in PI girl there are the best GFE in the world.
Fast eddie 48.Correction, I didn't get laid in Vietnam because 1) I was only there a few days 2) didn't attempt P4 P 3) Only went on one late night drinking date 3) Vietnamese culture.
I have banged a few Vietnamese girls in Korea, although I am not sure what simply fucking a Viet girl has to do with them being marriage material or not.
However, you are correct about one thing, Filipinas def have a more open disposition and are more fun. But that comes with them also being less loyal.
Hey everyone,
29 y / o planning to move to Vietnam next year. Anyone here married a Vietnamese woman? Curious if anyone has any experience dating Vietnamese women.
What are some good non mongering / expat forums for Vietnam?
I was in Saigon a year or two ago for about 5 days..1. Marriage material. Most of the bros here are into punting and not looking for marriage. Definitely mongering joints are the worst possible place to find marriage partner.
2. Dating scene. Check out finding girls online section. Wechat and Zalo are good although you should be in non-touristy area. Otherwise you'll be bombarded by pimps). Vietnamcupid used to be better but still okay.
3. ONS (one night stand). Actually, Vietnamese are one of the most liberal in all of Asia (I don't really think of PH as Asian. They're a mixed of American and Spanish complete with stereotypical Catholic baggage) thanks to the French influence. The way to dress (flaunt it if you got it) to their pragmatic approach to sex. Sex after few dates are very possible based on personal experience. But then again. These are not the type you would want as long term GF or marriage partner right? ONS is possible but higher difficulty level.
4. Lesson. Your experience doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Just because you're a Casanova in PH doesn't make you one here. I've had other American friends having similar success in PH (where they have natural gravitation toward white folks).
5. Money. No money no honey. Even if the girls you met in VN are non-pro, they do expect you to give them something. Remember it's still very poor country. Average waitress makes barely over $100 USD a month! Most of them live on the outskirt. It literally kill them financially to come see you in places like D1. So they expect you to understand and have the courtesy of picking up tabs and helping them with petrol or taxi fee at minimal. If you ever married them, you're also expected to help take care of their family. In VN, most of their love and loyalty will be to their first, you second.
The ones you meet most likely fall into lower middle class to poor category.
If you're super lucky and meet girls from higher class background, then money become less of an issue (assuming you're in same vicinity as them economically) but those girls definitely have their own rich princess issues. Although the chance of this happening are almost zero because what can you offer them that they don't have? Your status as foreigners don't mean much to them unlike lower middle class to poor types. And even for those, being foreigners lost most of the novelty it once had. Now being foreigners just mean possible exit for these economically challenged girls.
Bottom line, I love VN. I still think it's the best place to hook up with both pro AND non-pro girls in Asia. Just have the right expectation and right approach. What works in PH doesn't necessarily apply in VN. Hell. What works in Nana Plaza doesn't even apply to The Pimp (and that's being in the same city of Bangkok). Same here in VN. What works in Apocalypse do not apply to high-end local KTV like 166.
Medellin Kuya
10-09-15, 18:13
1. Marriage material. Most of the bros here are into punting and not looking for marriage. Definitely mongering joints are the worst possible place to find marriage partner.
2. Dating scene. Check out finding girls online section. Wechat and Zalo are good although you should be in non-touristy area. Otherwise you'll be bombarded by pimps). Vietnamcupid used to be better but still okay.
3. ONS (one night stand). Actually, Vietnamese are one of the most liberal in all of Asia (I don't really think of PH as Asian. They're a mixed of American and Spanish complete with stereotypical Catholic baggage) thanks to the French influence. The way to dress (flaunt it if you got it) to their pragmatic approach to sex. Sex after few dates are very possible based on personal experience. But then again. These are not the type you would want as long term GF or marriage partner right? ONS is possible but higher difficulty level.
4. Lesson. Your experience doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Just because you're a Casanova in PH doesn't make you one here. I've had other American friends having similar success in PH (where they have natural gravitation toward white folks).
5. Money. No money no honey. Even if the girls you met in VN are non-pro, they do expect you to give them something. Remember it's still very poor country. Average waitress makes barely over $100 USD a month! Most of them live on the outskirt. It literally kill them financially to come see you in places like D1. So they expect you to understand and have the courtesy of picking up tabs and helping them with petrol or taxi fee at minimal. If you ever married them, you're also expected to help take care of their family. In VN, most of their love and loyalty will be to their first, you second.
The ones you meet most likely fall into lower middle class to poor category.
If you're super lucky and meet girls from higher class background, then money become less of an issue (assuming you're in same vicinity as them economically) but those girls definitely have their own rich princess issues. Although the chance of this happening are almost zero because what can you offer them that they don't have? Your status as foreigners don't mean much to them unlike lower middle class to poor types. And even for those, being foreigners lost most of the novelty it once had. Now being foreigners just mean possible exit for these economically challenged girls.
Bottom line, I love VN. I still think it's the best place to hook up with both pro AND non-pro girls in Asia. Just have the right expectation and right approach. What works in PH doesn't necessarily apply in VN. Hell. What works in Nana Plaza doesn't even apply to The Pimp (and that's being in the same city of Bangkok). Same here in VN. What works in Apocalypse do not apply to high-end local KTV like 166.1) I am very aware of that, however, it's possible some members have VN wives as well. If someone has info on that then great, if not, no biggie.
2) I have hit up Tinder and VCupid very hard. In the past two weeks I've messaged 550 or so girls on VCupid. Which yeilded 200 facebook adds to my Vietnam List. 1/3 of the girls simply gave me their viber and not their facebook. I will have to go through all my messages and save their picture with their number captioned. Tons of matches on Tinder but have yet to message them further.
3) I am not sure where you get the liberal impression. Being a virgin and waiting for marriage is quite big here from everything I gather. The biggest of any country I've ever traveled to. Nothing like the Philippines where it is a given every girl I meet online and go on a night date with will fuck me that night.
4) Any Westerner / Foreigner is a Cassanova in Philippines. No one will be having that success in VN without being a celebrity or something.
5) I always pay for transport, food, drinks, movies, etc when I meet women. So that won't be a problem.
The quality of girls online in VN is vastly superior to Philippines. You can find East Asian looking women in a poor country. Can't beat that.
With all the leg work I am putting into online mining, I am going to have probably 600 attractive women indexed either on facebook or viber for me to contact when I arrive next year.
Thanks for the detailed reply.
1) 3) I am not sure where you get the liberal impression. Being a virgin and waiting for marriage is quite big here from everything I gather. The biggest of any country I've ever traveled to. Nothing like the Philippines where it is a given every girl I meet online and go on a night date with will fuck me that night.
4) Any Westerner / Foreigner is a Cassanova in Philippines. No one will be having that success in VN without being a celebrity or something.Based on empirical evidences from my guy friends that travel punt and those that live here as well as myself. We have relationship with several girls from poor, middle and even wealthy class (smaller number) family throughout the years. And most were not virgins and most will give it up sooner than later. Sometimes as soon as 1st date. Sure most VN girls trained from early on to look for marriage as one of life's milestones and most do want to get there sooner than later. However, they none of the VN girls we collectively dated / fucked / etc (and those numbers in the 100's) say they want to save their virginity for marriage. So no, you don't have to be celeb to have success in VN at all. That's why we love it here and come back often (I average 4-5 trips a year to Saigon until I luckily landed job here).
I have some punter friends that still travel here once every 2 months. Would love to meet these VN virgins. That would be true novelty for all of us. Different interpretation / experience for different folks although I would say your situation is super unique. Based on your number of travels here versus my network of punters. I can again make that statement with authority.
Medellin Kuya
10-12-15, 13:40
Based on empirical evidences from my guy friends that travel punt and those that live here as well as myself. We have relationship with several girls from poor, middle and even wealthy class (smaller number) family throughout the years. And most were not virgins and most will give it up sooner than later. Sometimes as soon as 1st date. Sure most VN girls trained from early on to look for marriage as one of life's milestones and most do want to get there sooner than later. However, they none of the VN girls we collectively dated / fucked / etc (and those numbers in the 100's) say they want to save their virginity for marriage. So no, you don't have to be celeb to have success in VN at all. That's why we love it here and come back often (I average 4-5 trips a year to Saigon until I luckily landed job here).
I have some punter friends that still travel here once every 2 months. Would love to meet these VN virgins. That would be true novelty for all of us. Different interpretation / experience for different folks although I would say your situation is super unique. Based on your number of travels here versus my network of punters. I can again make that statement with authority.I think we just have a different idea of difficulty. Yes many girls are not virgins, but most of them lost it with a BF. What I am saying is, I do not think VN is a place to go to looking for easy ONS with women. My impression is most (not all) girls are going to take a little time and some commitment before they are jumping in the sack with you. They are not like the Pinays that party and sleep with any Westerner on the first night.
I think VN is a great place to live or visit for a decent amount of time (2 weeks minimum preferably months). I would not want to come to VN on an extended weekend vacation looking to bang a lot of young tail. Talking about normal non pros.
I think we just have a different idea of difficulty. Yes many girls are not virgins, but most of them lost it with a BF. What I am saying is, I do not think VN is a place to go to looking for easy ONS with women. My impression is most (not all) girls are going to take a little time and some commitment before they are jumping in the sack with you. They are not like the Pinays that party and sleep with any Westerner on the first night.
I think VN is a great place to live or visit for a decent amount of time (2 weeks minimum preferably months). I would not want to come to VN on an extended weekend vacation looking to bang a lot of young tail. Talking about normal non pros.Fully agree with Medellin Kuya, this is also my observation.
I come to HCM on a regular basis and getting them takes lots of catch-ups and "maintenance" messages (good morning, how was your night?, how did you sleep?, I miss you,.).
With the recent questions about how easy it is to get women in Vietnam to sleep with you, I thought I just jot down some of my more memorable non P4P experiences. I think that coming as a short time visitor to HCM it is unlikely that you will score with regular girls unless you are really quite good looking (which I am not), but if you have a few months, a good backstory, and a nice place to live, you can have an amount of beautiful girls your friends back home would not believe.
So, with this in mind, most girls I meet go through what I call "the 2 dates" When I see a girl and there is an opportunity to flirt I make some polite conversation and exchange numbers. (I am assuming there is a little connection here) The 1st date is in town, some food, drinks and and a nice kiss. The 2nd date is either at my house, or ends up at my house. There can be a variety of ways to engineer that, from having a swim to cooking for her. Once they get over the door threshold I have an 85% hit rate. There is no 3rd date unless she fucks or sucks on the 2nd date. I have never used an app to meet people, just old fashioned chasing skirt whilst you are out. Sometimes a little on-line playing around but that is more for when I am bored at work. It is my opinion that girls that are not on these apps or dating sites are much easier to persuade to do something or go out with you as they have very few interactions with foreigners and it is all much more exiting and novel. In addition it really pays dividend to look outside D1, and not in the bars. Yes you can pick up in bars too, but it is my experience that the real diamonds are found outside of the bars. You don't even need a lot of game, I don't have a lot and I still manage. Just make them laugh, as soon as you can make them laugh you are in there. Maybe not tonight, but certainly tomorrow. I tend to go for girls that are between 25 and 32. They are old enough to know what they want, but young enough to still have amazing bodies. Below are a few examples from the last 7 years.
Hanh, was the first girl I met in those early weeks at Apo (where else.). She was squirting all over the place every time we did it, but I am still not sure if she was just pissing on me or not. She said she was not a working girl and refused my money. But after 4 weeks her bike got "stolen" and a request for 30 million was duly made. Needless to say, that is where the relationship ended.
Thuy sold advertisement space for a radio station, and I instantly liked her when I met her at Lush. We hit it off and ended up meeting once a month for almost 2 years. In the early months I bungled her into a cab with 200 k and she was seriously pissed off that I treated her like a working girl. It is a shame her family shipped her off to the US, otherwise I would have still been in there (just once a month).
Yen, a manager at a local restaurant chain. She was 29 and a virgin. It was the only girl I had more patience with and she ended up sleeping at my place at least 5 or 6 times before she was ready to give it a go. I have never seen a girl that nervous, she was shaking so much I almost called it off. (almost mind you, but not quite) It was a shame she went so overwhelmingly lovey after that, it was suffocating me so I had to let her go.
Dung, who worked for a company that erects street lights all over Vietnam. She was from Chinese heritage and the only girl that brought a small toiletries bag to our first "date". That is exactly the sort of thing that gets me to like a girl, good on her, we had fun.
Ha, fluent in Japanese. She did make me laugh when she almost drowned whilst trying to pretend she could swim. We had a great sex session that evening, maybe because she had a near death experience? It appeared after that that we had little in common.
Jane Doe 1, she was a pharmacist at one of the main hospitals. One the second date she kept saying that her aim in life was to be a *****. I thought to myself, I don't want to go out with a *****, but I will fuck you tonight anyway given that this is the second date and I don't want my stats to drop. I think this was the only girl I have ever properly skull-fucked for about 45 minutes straight. Treating her like a ***** I guess.
Leaky, a professional party girl who I did end up supporting a little for about a year. We met at Apo and on the way back to my place she asked, can you fuck me 3 times tonight? I thought she was bullshitting me, I was wrong. It was the start of a long term relationship build on pure unadulterated dirty sex. I still can't believe we both did not understand where these yeast infections kept coming from. All men take note, if you have fucking sessions where you constantly switch from pussy to ass and back again, she will get yeast infections.
Kris, a Vietnamese holiday maker living in Europe full time. My first "tourist" and she was straight to the point. "Come to my hotel tonight and fuck me". Very nice indeed, but not a typical experience for Vietnam I should mention.
Thuy D2, I do not know anything about this girl, all I know is that she is 21 and lives somewhere in D2 where we were introduced by a mutual acquaintance. I texted her once every 2 months, we met at a mini hotel and fucked, after which we parted ways. She did not even seem to like it that much, and no money ever changes hands. (she seemed quite well off) She did not let me down in over 18 months of pleasure. Not sure if she does this to be "edgy" or what her angle is, but it worked for me.
Nhung, also known as nutcase girl. We met at the opening of a friends shop. She did look a bit fragile but very willing to come home straight away with me, so who was I to refuse? Big mistake! Two nights of fucking and she honestly thought we were getting married, which is crazy as that is not an angle I ever use. She was the only girl ever I had to tell to stay the fuck away from my house in no uncertain terms.
Ella from the Philippines, picked up at Starbucks. She was on her own for work in HCM for 2 weeks and wanted to get ravaged every night. I can see that things are more fun in the Philippines indeed.
Mai, working in a massage parlor, but she always refused tips and wanted to see me "outside". She had a healthy appetite for sex and was just honestly looking for a boyfriend. She was very emotionally needy so I had to pretend I was going back to Europe after a few months.
Phuong, a school teacher with a fetish for sucking dick. She only needed 1 date and immediately gave me her body. (then again she was not exactly a beauty) She was the only girl I ever met where you can feel your dick sliding properly down her throat. True blue deep throat with a very good suppression of gag reflexes. A skill indeed.
Phuong 2, she was one of very few people I met on-line. She wanted a baby, just a baby, nothing else needed as she was already married but had trouble conceiving. We met up a few times on exactly the right dates and a beautiful little boy was born. Needless to say I have not slept with her since, but I surely hope she will call me if she would like a second one. I wish her well.
Huong, was someone that was on the peripheral and just an acquaintance really. She was working for a coffee importer at the time when she found out her husband was cheating on her. I suggested she did the same to him, and quite by surprise she took me up on the idea. (This was not really a 2 dates kind of thing I guess).
Kim, a Filipino classroom assistant. We met at a bar and she was cute as a button. In true Filipino style she invited me over to her place that first evening, and we had a very nice few months until she got sacked and had to return home.
Thi, who works as a manager in a furniture factory. Again an introduction by a mutual friend, and she came home with me the first time we met. I am still seeing this girl once a week. She knows I am not husband material but she enjoys the once a week intimacy (and so do I).
These are just a few examples of what is out there. Its not easy, but the rewards can be incredible for people that have a bit of time. (I am sure many of you are smiling and agree) If you don't have time I recommend straight P4P in HCM, but to be frank there are better cities in Asia than HCM for P4P.
Medellin Kuya
10-16-15, 19:21
Nice post man.
So you are getting consistent lays on the 2nd date?
Seems to me it would be a little difficult to find girls that speak English without using online sites and apps. This has not been an issue for you?
I added about 300 girls to my facebook from VietnameseCupid in just 2 weeks time. Probably have another 150 girls that simply just gave me their Viber number.
One 18 year old girl is sending me nudes and telling me all what she will do for me if I am her BF.
Can't wait to touch down in HCMC and get to work meeting women.
I am thinking to have 1 in city GF. 1 out of city GF I go visit once a week or so. Then one fuck buddy / friends with benefits in HCMC.
Not sure if I will be able to pull it off or not. LOL.
With the recent questions about how easy it is to get women in Vietnam to sleep with you, I thought I just jot down some of my more memorable non P4P experiences. I think that coming as a short time visitor to HCM it is unlikely that you will score with regular girls unless you are really quite good looking (which I am not), but if you have a few months, a good backstory, and a nice place to live, you can have an amount of beautiful girls your friends back home would not believe.
So, with this in mind, most girls I meet go through what I call "the 2 dates" When I see a girl and there is an opportunity to flirt I make some polite conversation and exchange numbers. (I am assuming there is a little connection here) The 1st date is in town, some food, drinks and and a nice kiss. The 2nd date is either at my house, or ends up at my house. There can be a variety of ways to engineer that, from having a swim to cooking for her. Once they get over the door threshold I have an 85% hit rate. There is no 3rd date unless she fucks or sucks on the 2nd date. I have never used an app to meet people, just old fashioned chasing skirt whilst you are out. Sometimes a little on-line playing around but that is more for when I am bored at work. It is my opinion that girls that are not on these apps or dating sites are much easier to persuade to do something or go out with you as they have very few interactions with foreigners and it is all much more exiting and novel. In addition it really pays dividend to look outside D1, and not in the bars. Yes you can pick up in bars too, but it is my experience that the real diamonds are found outside of the bars. You don't even need a lot of game, I don't have a lot and I still manage. Just make them laugh, as soon as you can make them laugh you are in there. Maybe not tonight, but certainly tomorrow. I tend to go for girls that are between 25 and 32. They are old enough to know what they want, but young enough to still have amazing bodies. Below are a few examples from the last 7 years.
Hanh, was the first girl I met in those early weeks at Apo (where else.). She was squirting all over the place every time we did it, but I am still not sure if she was just pissing on me or not. She said she was not a working girl and refused my money. But after 4 weeks her bike got "stolen" and a request for 30 million was duly made. Needless to say, that is where the relationship ended.
Thuy sold advertisement space for a radio station, and I instantly liked her when I met her at Lush. We hit it off and ended up meeting once a month for almost 2 years. In the early months I bungled her into a cab with 200 k and she was seriously pissed off that I treated her like a working girl. It is a shame her family shipped her off to the US, otherwise I would have still been in there (just once a month).
Yen, a manager at a local restaurant chain. She was 29 and a virgin. It was the only girl I had more patience with and she ended up sleeping at my place at least 5 or 6 times before she was ready to give it a go. I have never seen a girl that nervous, she was shaking so much I almost called it off. (almost mind you, but not quite) It was a shame she went so overwhelmingly lovey after that, it was suffocating me so I had to let her go.
Dung, who worked for a company that erects street lights all over Vietnam. She was from Chinese heritage and the only girl that brought a small toiletries bag to our first "date". That is exactly the sort of thing that gets me to like a girl, good on her, we had fun.
Ha, fluent in Japanese. She did make me laugh when she almost drowned whilst trying to pretend she could swim. We had a great sex session that evening, maybe because she had a near death experience? It appeared after that that we had little in common.
Jane Doe 1, she was a pharmacist at one of the main hospitals. One the second date she kept saying that her aim in life was to be a *****. I thought to myself, I don't want to go out with a *****, but I will fuck you tonight anyway given that this is the second date and I don't want my stats to drop. I think this was the only girl I have ever properly skull-fucked for about 45 minutes straight. Treating her like a ***** I guess.
Leaky, a professional party girl who I did end up supporting a little for about a year. We met at Apo and on the way back to my place she asked, can you fuck me 3 times tonight? I thought she was bullshitting me, I was wrong. It was the start of a long term relationship build on pure unadulterated dirty sex. I still can't believe we both did not understand where these yeast infections kept coming from. All men take note, if you have fucking sessions where you constantly switch from pussy to ass and back again, she will get yeast infections.
Kris, a Vietnamese holiday maker living in Europe full time. My first "tourist" and she was straight to the point. "Come to my hotel tonight and fuck me". Very nice indeed, but not a typical experience for Vietnam I should mention.
Thuy D2, I do not know anything about this girl, all I know is that she is 21 and lives somewhere in D2 where we were introduced by a mutual acquaintance. I texted her once every 2 months, we met at a mini hotel and fucked, after which we parted ways. She did not even seem to like it that much, and no money ever changes hands. (she seemed quite well off) She did not let me down in over 18 months of pleasure. Not sure if she does this to be "edgy" or what her angle is, but it worked for me.
Nhung, also known as nutcase girl. We met at the opening of a friends shop. She did look a bit fragile but very willing to come home straight away with me, so who was I to refuse? Big mistake! Two nights of fucking and she honestly thought we were getting married, which is crazy as that is not an angle I ever use. She was the only girl ever I had to tell to stay the fuck away from my house in no uncertain terms.
Ella from the Philippines, picked up at Starbucks. She was on her own for work in HCM for 2 weeks and wanted to get ravaged every night. I can see that things are more fun in the Philippines indeed.
Mai, working in a massage parlor, but she always refused tips and wanted to see me "outside". She had a healthy appetite for sex and was just honestly looking for a boyfriend. She was very emotionally needy so I had to pretend I was going back to Europe after a few months.
Phuong, a school teacher with a fetish for sucking dick. She only needed 1 date and immediately gave me her body. (then again she was not exactly a beauty) She was the only girl I ever met where you can feel your dick sliding properly down her throat. True blue deep throat with a very good suppression of gag reflexes. A skill indeed.
Phuong 2, she was one of very few people I met on-line. She wanted a baby, just a baby, nothing else needed as she was already married but had trouble conceiving. We met up a few times on exactly the right dates and a beautiful little boy was born. Needless to say I have not slept with her since, but I surely hope she will call me if she would like a second one. I wish her well.
Huong, was someone that was on the peripheral and just an acquaintance really. She was working for a coffee importer at the time when she found out her husband was cheating on her. I suggested she did the same to him, and quite by surprise she took me up on the idea. (This was not really a 2 dates kind of thing I guess).
Kim, a Filipino classroom assistant. We met at a bar and she was cute as a button. In true Filipino style she invited me over to her place that first evening, and we had a very nice few months until she got sacked and had to return home.
Thi, who works as a manager in a furniture factory. Again an introduction by a mutual friend, and she came home with me the first time we met. I am still seeing this girl once a week. She knows I am not husband material but she enjoys the once a week intimacy (and so do I).
These are just a few examples of what is out there. Its not easy, but the rewards can be incredible for people that have a bit of time. (I am sure many of you are smiling and agree) If you don't have time I recommend straight P4P in HCM, but to be frank there are better cities in Asia than HCM for P4P.
Nice post man.
So you are getting consistent lays on the 2nd date?
Seems to me it would be a little difficult to find girls that speak English without using online sites and apps. This has not been an issue for you?
Not sure if I will be able to pull it off or not. LOL.Hi MK,
Thanks, yes I have about an 85% hit-rate once they come over to my house on the second date. (sample size about 60 in 7 years) As with all stats the devil is in the detail. If on the first date I think it is 100% not going to happen, then naturally we don't even get to a second date. In addition I should mention that my place is a 300 sqm modern nice house, and I think that helps quite a lot. All that I want to illustrate is that for the guy that has time and a good backstory, this place is a goldmine for regular girls.
My experience with English ability is that it can vary from intermediate to poor. If a girl hardly speaks any English I don't even go into the date routine though. I don't think it will differ on apps or on-line.
I am in Saigon right now and using WeChat, am able to connect with many (translate button helps!) but man!, it's a real pain to communicate.
Many offer massage but the regular girls, it's a different story.
Maybe I am a clutz.
Hi MK,
Thanks, yes I have about an 85% hit-rate once they come over to my house on the second date. (sample size about 60 in 7 years) As with all stats the devil is in the detail. If on the first date I think it is 100% not going to happen, then naturally we don't even get to a second date. In addition I should mention that my place is a 300 sqm modern nice house, and I think that helps quite a lot. All that I want to illustrate is that for the guy that has time and a good backstory, this place is a goldmine for regular girls.
My experience with English ability is that it can vary from intermediate to poor. If a girl hardly speaks any English I don't even go into the date routine though. I don't think it will differ on apps or on-line.
Asian Rain
10-20-15, 15:59
Many offer massage but the regular girls, it's a different story.
Maybe I am a clutz.When they offer massage, just reply "No, I am looking for sex. Suck and fuck. " Then see what is the response. You will be pleasantly surprised. Go to the "finding girls online" thread for more info and WATCH FOR BAIT AND SWITCH! Enjoy, AR.
Question. Do we have to go down and fetch the girls or the concierge just lets them in by taking the ID card?
Any tips on identifying Regular girls?
When they offer massage, just reply "No, I am looking for sex. Suck and fuck. " Then see what is the response. You will be pleasantly surprised. Go to the "finding girls online" thread for more info and WATCH FOR BAIT AND SWITCH! Enjoy, AR.
OK so I'm not P.S. Endowed, only average length but with extra girth so that I need an XL size condom. The only ones I have found in HCM are Durex Pleasuremax, which have the ribbed edge. I choose to get CBJ and the girls don't like the feel of the ribbed edge, so I'm looking for a "regular" XL condom like Durex Max Love, Avanti Bare or Durex XXL (which I've read have been discontinued). If anyone has found these or other XL caps please let me know where I can get some.
Thanks
Wander Luster
10-26-15, 07:49
1) I am very aware of that, however, it's possible some members have VN wives as well. If someone has info on that then great, if not, no biggie.
2) I have hit up Tinder and VCupid very hard. In the past two weeks I've messaged 550 or so girls on VCupid. Which yeilded 200 facebook adds to my Vietnam List. 1/3 of the girls simply gave me their viber and not their facebook. I will have to go through all my messages and save their picture with their number captioned. Tons of matches on Tinder but have yet to message them further.
3) I am not sure where you get the liberal impression. Being a virgin and waiting for marriage is quite big here from everything I gather. The biggest of any country I've ever traveled to. Nothing like the Philippines where it is a given every girl I meet online and go on a night date with will fuck me that night.
4) Any Westerner / Foreigner is a Cassanova in Philippines. No one will be having that success in VN without being a celebrity or something.
5) I always pay for transport, food, drinks, movies, etc when I meet women. So that won't be a problem.
The quality of girls online in VN is vastly superior to Philippines. You can find East Asian looking women in a poor country. Can't beat that.
With all the leg work I am putting into online mining, I am going to have probably 600 attractive women indexed either on facebook or viber for me to contact when I arrive next year.
Thanks for the detailed reply.I'm amazed how exaggerated the stereotype is of the PH. Yes, a large percentage have the differences you mention. But for God's sake it is not a "God given right" for them to be "easy" with guys. There are tons of conservative girls even in cities like Cebu or Manila that will not fool around until the 6th date. They are VERY Catholic!
Medellin Kuya
10-26-15, 13:52
I'm amazed how exaggerated the stereotype is of the PH. Yes, a large percentage have the differences you mention. But for God's sake it is not a "God given right" for them to be "easy" with guys. There are tons of conservative girls even in cities like Cebu or Manila that will not fool around until the 6th date. They are VERY Catholic!LOL at citing Catholic. Catholics are what we call in the US weekend Christians or once or twice a year Christians. They basically sin and do what they want like a non Christian except they go and repent to a priest a few times a year.
Pinays are the easiest women in the world to sleep with. Every single night date I have went on resulted in the girl going back to my apartment.
Where else in the world can a guy bat 100% on dates resulting in a one night stands? No where that I know of. And we aint talking about some small sample size. Talking about atleast 80-100 women over the course of 3-4 years.
Yes there are some conservative girls but they are drastically out numbered by open minded girls who like to have fun.
The Philippines is so easy I could sleep with a new girl every night of the week without even leaving my apartment. All I would need to do is go on FilipinoCupid or Tinder and messages girls to "go swimming and watch a movie" at my apartment.
I dont normally do that tho. I like to take girls out to eat and go dancing and drinking first before going back to the apartment.
Update on my online mining for Vietnam.
My month subscription for VietnameseCupid is about to expire. I messaged over 1,000 girls. It yielded about 400 facebook adds and 100 viber contacts. Response rate is very very good.
I have a shit ton of matches on Tinder that I have yet to message. I assume that will yield another 100 girls as well.
Those are insane numbers for only 1 months leg work. I am not even sure I have 500 total Pinays on my facebook and that is from 4 years of mining FilipinoCupid. So many more attractive women in Vietnam on the dating sites.
LOL at citing Catholic. Catholics are what we call in the US weekend Christians or once or twice a year Christians. They basically sin and do what they want like a non Christian except they go and repent to a priest a few times a year.If you guys are going to talk at length about Philippines, could you maybe continue it in that section of the forum?
I wanted to followup with an update as I am leaving Saigon. Have to say, I had the most wonderful time as a tourist in the past 10 days in Saigon (which his how I prefer to call it).
As preparation, I did my usual research ahead of time and got myself a Tinder account and starting trying to get some hits. Being that it get's your info from Facebook, unless you have a.
Fake profile, it puts you at a disadvantage as I am over 50! And I am Indian, not the white. Still, I have had good luck! I tried to follow the 2nd date guideline from JD468.
1st meeting was with a girl, 37 and speaks decent english. She was willing to meet me but asked me to pay her taxi fair (500 k dong).
She met me at the hotel lobby, took me around and showed me the town. Convinced me to go with her recommendation for local food. Took me to a restaurant belonging to an acquaintance.
Good great service and we had frog-legs (my 1st!) and HotPot. It was a great introduction to Saigon. Got some classic photo-ops and have to say she gave me a genuine introduction to.
The city. However, she wouldn't come to the room as she said she was loyal to her BF (who lives in Australia or something) even if he is not faithful!(whatever! At the end of the trip.
I felt she was a good first introduction to the city and gave me all the good tips. I wanted to take her out again and treat her to dinner but she still wanted me to pay the 500 Dng.
Didn't work out.
A local expat acquaintance suggested WeChat. He said it was the easiest one to find girls and being that I am a short timer, not to waste time and get on with the pros. Signed up.
With WeChat and wov! Tons of girls around in D1 and most of them are ready to come to your hotel and give you massage. They wanted $50-60 for one hour. I was quite turned off.
As I am not used to go to pro's and don't enjoy bang-bang-getOut sessions. Always left me feeling empty afterwards! I have a regular GF for 3+ yrs who cooks, pampers and gives me sex.
Anytime I want. A little needy and jealous sometimes, but goes with territory.
After trolling through ton's of WeChat contacts and trying to be witty, hit on a 24 year old girl (pam). I sent a note in the morning and she responded in the evening and immediately wanted.
To meetI was a little hesitant as things never move this fast and warning signs were going off in the head. In the end, I suggested to meet her at the happy hour lounge next door just.
To check her out. She came and she was quite young and friendly. Had a soft drink and some spring-rolls while I was enjoying my beer. We connected next day and she came right away.
To my room and needless to say, she came every day for the next few days and I had a good time ravishing her body and she enjoyed spending time with me. She was willing to.
Come ANYTIME and genuinely was trying to please me (couldn't figure out her angle) and liked to be with me. Never asked for money but I used to give her petrol expenses everything 200-300 dng.
She is not massage girl as she never watched the clock or asked for money! She is hoping I will be back.
I had conversations going with at-least another 2-3 regular girls. If I had been around and had a place of my own (like D648), I am sure I would have scored!
In the meantime, I got a connection with another girl in Tinder. She was 27. We talked for sometime and I asked her to come out for dinner. I volunteered to pay for her taxi. She.
Got initially very angry and told me she was not that kind of girl. Mis-understood that I was offering her money for sex. When she realized the mistake, she apologized and became.
Even more friendly. Supposedly she came on Tinder to learn English. She was quite a beauty and came to the hotel. Took her to a bbq (another adventure) and couple of days later.
She was willing to come to the hotel. She did and it was quite an experience! She is not used to coming to hotels and didn't have ID, concierge called me and asked me to come down.
And sign a paper (walk of shame: she was dressed in really short-jeans shorts that probably made her look like a hooker. But then many young ones dress like that these days!
Took her up and the dam door got locked for some reason. Had to go back down and get that sorted out. It was an uncomfortable 15 mins where you felt everyone was looking at you.
And either smiling or looking at your disgustinglyAnyways, spent some time talking english (hard! Google translate is a winner!) and slowly making advances. She initially didn't want.
To do it as she is only looking for boy friends and she already knew I was leaving next day. Anyways, eventually buckled, had great sex and we went out for lunch (thankfully she brought another dress).
And a couple of hours later she left. Learned about her story and felt bad. Her dad dumped the family when she was 18. Mom didn't care for her or her sister and pampered the son.
She was on her own from 18 (had to drop out of college) and working. Apparently, in Vietnam boys always got the royal treatment and girls are not treated well.
In summary, I found getting sex is quite easy with WeChat if you just wanted to go for a massage girl. There is plenty of motorbike dudes offering the same on the road but I never.
Entertained as it always leads to complications. If you are looking for regular girls, it is possible but you have to persist. Language in general is a real problem. WeChat has a nice.
Translate feature which I believe most of the girls use. So, when you meet them in person, you will have a tough time to have a conversation. Girls are quite liberal in thinking.
Sorry for the long ramble, wanted to share my experience and hopefully help somebody going through the same process!
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OK so I'm not P.S. Endowed, only average length but with extra girth so that I need an XL size condom. The only ones I have found in HCM are Durex Pleasuremax, which have the ribbed edge. I choose to get CBJ and the girls don't like the feel of the ribbed edge, so I'm looking for a "regular" XL condom like Durex Max Love, Avanti Bare or Durex XXL (which I've read have been discontinued). If anyone has found these or other XL caps please let me know where I can get some.
ThanksThe pharmacist above the Anh Phu supermarket has the XL Durex on occasion. But I think there are a few guys (including myself) that purchase in bulk when they are in-stock, so good luck.
Apologies for the bad post. I was on a laptop which I was not totally comfortable with. Will with proper edit as it is unreadable!
I wanted to follow-up with an update as I am leaving Saigon. Have to say, I had the most wonderful time as a tourist in the past 10 days in Saigon (which is how I prefer to call it).
As preparation, I did my usual research ahead of time and got myself a Tinder account and starting trying to get some hits. Being that it gets your info from Facebook, unless you have a fake profile, it puts you at a disadvantage as I am over 50! And I am not White. I followed the 2nd date guideline from JD468. It worked for me well.
1st meeting was with a girl I met on Tinder. She is 37 and speaks decent English. She was willing to meet me but asked me to pay her taxi fare (500 kD). She met me at the hotel lobby, took me around and showed me the town. Was convinced enough that she was genuine and went along with her recommendation for a local lunch place. Great service and we had frog-legs (my 1st!) and duck Hotpot. However, she wouldn't come to the room as she said she was loyal to her BF (who lives in Australia or something) even if he is not faithful! At the end of the day, she was comfortable enough to share her life story with me.
I felt she was a good first introduction to the city and gave me all the good tips and warnings (about not using the phone too close to the road etc.) I wanted to take her out again and treat her to dinner but she still wanted me to pay the 500 kD.
A local expat acquaintance suggested WeChat. He said it was the easiest one to find girls and being that I am a short timer, not to waste time and get on with the pros. Signed up with WeChat and wov! Tons of girls around in D1 and most of them are ready to come to your hotel and give you massage. They wanted $50-60 for one hour. I was quite turned off as I am not used to going to pro's and don't enjoy bang-bang-get Out sessions. Always left me feeling empty afterwards! I have a regular GF for 3+ yrs. In India who cooks, pampers and gives me sex anytime I want. A little needy and jealous sometimes, but goes with territory.
After trolling through tons of WeChat contacts and trying to be witty, hit on a 24 year old girl. I sent a note in the morning and she responded in the evening and immediately wanted to meet. I was a little hesitant as things never move this fast and warning signs were going off in the head. In the end, I suggested to meet her at the happy hour lounge next door just to check her out. She came and she was quite young and friendly. She ordered some spring-rolls and a soft drink while I was enjoying my beer. We connected next day and she came right away to my room and needless to say, she came every day for the next few days and I had a good time ravishing her body and she enjoyed spending time with me. She was genuinely trying to please me (couldn't figure out her angle) and liked to be with me. Never asked for money but I used to give her petrol expenses every time (200-300 kD) and she was grateful. We would go out to eat sometimes and she figures out what I like and order some interesting stuff.
I had conversations going on with at-least another 2-3 regular girls. If I had been around and had a place of my own (like D648), I am sure I would have scored!
In the meantime, I got a connection with another girl on Tinder. She was 27. We talked for some time and I asked her to come out for dinner. I volunteered to pay for her taxi. She initially got very angry and told me she was not that kind of girl. I guess she misunderstood that I was offering her money for sex. When she realized the mistake, she apologized and became friendlier. Supposedly she came on Tinder to learn English. She was quite a beauty and came to the hotel. Took her to a bbq (another adventure) and couple of days later got her to come to the room. She clearly was not used to coming to hotels and didn't have ID. Concierge called me and asked me to come down and sign a paper (walk of shame: she was dressed in really short-jeans shorts that probably made her look like a hooker. But then many young ones dress like that these days! Took her up to the room and the dam door got locked for some reason. Had to go back down and get that sorted out. It was an uncomfortable 15 minutes where you felt everyone was looking at you and either smiling or looking at you disgustingly. Anyways, we tried talking English (hard. Google translate is a winner!) , slowly making advances. She initially didn't want to do it as she is only looking for boyfriends and she already knew I was leaving next day. Anyways, eventually buckled, had great sex and we went out for lunch (thankfully she brought another dress). Learned about her story and felt bad. Her dad dumped the family when she was 18. Mom didn't care for her or her sister but pampered the son. She was on her own from 18 (had to drop out of high-school). Apparently, in Vietnam boys always got the royal treatment and girls are not treated well.
In summary, I found getting sex is quite easy with WeChat if you just wanted to go for a massage girl. There are plenty of motorbike dudes offering the same on the road but I never entertained as it always leads to complications. If you are looking for regular girls, it is possible but you have to persist. Language in general is a real problem. WeChat has a nice translate feature which I believe most of the girls use. So, when you meet them in person, you will have a tough time having a conversation. Girls are quite liberal in thinking and very friendly.
Sorry for the long ramble, wanted to share my experience and hopefully help somebody going through the same process!
ILoveChicas
11-04-15, 17:53
Had to post a question about something in general to see what others experience has been.
Certainly I can't be the only guy whose been approached by motorbike girls asking about "boom boom". This of course is a bit more common in some districts than others. If you read around on the net there are a few articles or older blog posts and there's often a mention of a threat or worry about robbery. While I can imagine why, I also find it hard to believe all our most of the women are out specifically to rip you off.
Why aren't there more Posts on this and has anyone here given it a go? More than a few of the girls aren't half bad looking. What's up with it? Opinions?
Had to post a question about something in general to see what others experience has been.
Certainly I can't be the only guy whose been approached by motorbike girls asking about "boom boom". This of course is a bit more common in some districts than others. If you read around on the net there are a few articles or older blog posts and there's often a mention of a threat or worry about robbery. While I can imagine why, I also find it hard to believe all our most of the women are out specifically to rip you off.
Why aren't there more Posts on this and has anyone here given it a go? More than a few of the girls aren't half bad looking. What's up with it? Opinions?Let me guess, you are talking about the backpacker area. My advice would be, don't bother, it will be 80% scam, 20% you end up fucking but with crappy service. There are 2 all-time favorites, one is disappearing whilst you are in the shower with your money, but I guess only really inexperienced mongers get caught out that way. The other is that there are 2 girls and you are being pick pocketed even before you get to the hotel. The girls generally hang around Pham Ngu Lao later at night when most guys are a bit drunk. I have never heard of a guy scoring a gem there, but plenty of my mates have had trouble with girls there. This is probably why it is not discussed often. Would you post on ISG" my phone and wallet were stolen whilst I thought I was getting ready for a shag".
ILoveChicas
11-05-15, 14:17
Let me guess, you are talking about the backpacker area. My advice would be, don't bother, it will be 80% scam, 20% you end up fucking but with crappy service. There are 2 all-time favorites, one is disappearing whilst you are in the shower with your money, but I guess only really inexperienced mongers get caught out that way. The other is that there are 2 girls and you are being pick pocketed even before you get to the hotel. The girls generally hang around Pham Ngu Lao later at night when most guys are a bit drunk. I have never heard of a guy scoring a gem there, but plenty of my mates have had trouble with girls there. This is probably why it is not discussed often. Would you post on ISG" my phone and wallet were stolen whilst I thought I was getting ready for a shag".Thanks for your response. Actually, just based on instincts alone, the PLN area is one area in HCM I wouldn't attempt this. I guess I'm just naturally skeptical, or paranoid about places related to tourists.
Only robbed once and it was unrelated to the hobby in another part of the world. I've spent some time watching the motorbike scene and the one area where I think there's some vulnerability is when I've seen girls on motorbikes or hanging out without a motorbike. Nearby, if you're patient enough, you may see a guy who's attached to the woman. Needless to say you might get followed and issues start to happen. The other issue might come with a hotel who is part of the set up. You bring someone to a low end hotel and when you come out and your wheels are gone.
I guess you could try and explain to a corrupt cop from the neighborhood that someone stole your motorbike while you were illegally shagging a Vietnamese woman. I'm guessing that won't go well.
But in other areas I've been around in the selection looks pretty good at times. The price that comes up is usually 400-500/ HR, presumably at one of the short time hotels.
Again, thanks for responding. There may be some other guys who've tried it and had an occasionally good time!
Pointy Stick
11-06-15, 09:59
Hi there,
Might be coming into Saigon for a couple of days.
Can anyone firm if Benny's is still open? Thinking about going in for a 3 header but the booths are really small so do they have rooms available?
Its been about 2 years since I was last there so I expect things have changed a lot.
Hi,
I have looked through the classified adds hear, looking for a reliable moto driver but could not find one.
Can any senior member hear recommend me one please?
Thanks,
James02
NguyetLang
11-14-15, 13:04
Hi,
I have looked through the classified adds hear, looking for a reliable moto driver but could not find one.
Can any senior member hear recommend me one please?
Thanks,
James02I was in both Saigon and Hanoi last September. The moto drivers have become even more difficult and more treacherous than ever. I would not use them. There is a new competitor in town and that's Uber (only available in big cities like SG and HN with the Nang upcoming). They are reasonable and I think they are much safer than moto. Typical ride around D1 cost me 2-3 USD / ride. If you have a smart phone, I highly recommend Uber. I especially like the fact that you don't have to negotiate and don't have to fiddle with cash (they also accept cash if that's what you prefer).
Some of the Uber drivers have connection to high class P4 P. One night I asked U-driver randomly for action and he took me to a back street hotel on LTHG street, near Ky Con street. The girl was waiting in the lobby as I arrived. The hotel was typical hourly dig and cost 100 k / HR (I paid 150 k for a bit over 1 HR). The girl was typical young and slim from the south-west VN, light skin and shy, overall about 8 on my scale. Negotiated priced was 1 M / HR (I balked at 3 M overnight). Sorry I did not keep the contact.
Enjoy VN,
Peter.
I was there a year ago, girls at the hostess bars asking 100 usd for short time. I can't recall right now the name of the bar, think it was along Dhong Khoi but there were tuk tuk drivers waiting around offering girls. I talked one down to 30 from 50 and off we went, around 5 minute ride from there. There was a girl on the street, tall and slim with nice legs but she was wearing a face mask so I couldn't tell from there if she was hot or not. Reluctantly I accepted but asked to lower the price to 25. The guy agreed and signaled the girl who got on a tuk 2 x and we went to a 3 dollar short time hotel 2 minutes from where we picked her up. Service was good, no rush, good BBBJ and 2nd shot for an additional 5 usd and the girl was quite a looker once the face mask came off.
I didn't get a chance to repeat the experience back then but I'll be going back to HCM soon and I'd like to know if I can narrow down where I might have been taken. I know there are lots of moto pimps around the city, as a single male walking around town you can't walk 10 m in some areas without being approached by someone offering a girl. Are those people all offering to take you to the same place or are there many different places they can take you around town, any chance I might be able to find these places myself?
If you have a smart phone, I highly recommend Uber.I was looking for A personal recommendation.
After reading this page http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City.
There are some guide lines on the prices that you / we should pay.
Now I know we should not take too much notice to every singe article posted on the internet; but I have been told (I think) twice now by other members on this site, not to take to much notice to saids. Site!
But hear it is; what do you think regarding the above.
* Price for street prostitute in Ho Chi Minh City is VND 1000,000 to 2 000,000 (US $ 45-$90) for quicky, rent of room included, but you have to negotiate to get this price and often asking price can be much higher.
* You can also find motorcycle girls from Phan Ngu Lao and Bui Vien streets and the alleys that run between them. Rate is VND 1000,000 to 2000,000 (US $45-90) for one hour.
* VND500,000 – 1000,000 (US $23-45) for sitting with a male expat for one or two hours, and another $100-400 for spending a night, starting from midnight.
P.S. Also check out the prices for bar fines for Karaoke and KTVs listed above.
After reading this page http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City.
There are some guide lines on the prices that you / we should pay.
Now I know we should not take too much notice to every singe article posted on the internet; but I have been told (I think) twice now by two other members on this site, not to take to much notice to saids. Site!
But hear it is; what do you think regarding the above.
* Price for street prostitute in Ho Chi Minh City is VND 1000,000 to 2 000,000 (US $ 45-$90) for quicky, rent of room included, but you have to negotiate to get this price and often asking price can be much higher.
* You can also find motorcycle girls from Phan Ngu Lao and Bui Vien streets and the alleys that run between them. Rate is VND 1000,000 to 2000,000 (US $45-90) for one hour.
* VND500,000 – 1000,000 (US $23-45) for sitting with a male expat for one or two hours, and another $100-400 for spending a night, starting from midnight.
P.S. Also check out the prices for bar fines for Karaoke and KTVs listed above.
MutantChicken
11-20-15, 09:17
* Price for street prostitute in Ho Chi Minh City is VND 1000,000 to 2 000,000 (US $ 45-$90) for quicky, rent of room included, but you have to negotiate to get this price and often asking price can be much higher.
WAY too much unless you have newbie written all over you place or you being approached in D1
* You can also find motorcycle girls from Phan Ngu Lao and Bui Vien streets and the alleys that run between them. Rate is VND 1000,000 to 2000,000 (US $45-90) for one hour.
SAME again though these girls more likely to steal from you
* VND500,000 1000,000 (US $23-45) for sitting with a male expat for one or two hours, and another $100-400 for spending a night, starting from midnight.
KTV prices are 300k -500k, sitting fees (no time limit), and 2-3mill (100-150usd overnight)
P.S. Also check out the prices for bar fines for Karaoke and KTVs listed above.Look Thur. My post history to see what local pricing should be. The issue is finding places then getting a personal recommendation to get local pricing. Ie if yuo go alone you will be overcharged but if you go with a regular / local person, then next time you will get charged local prices.
After reading this page http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City.
.Info on this page seems completely usesless and outdated. There are some places listed on there that closed down before 2005. Recommend you un-bookmark this webpage.
Look Thur. My post history to see what local pricing should be. The issue is finding places then getting a personal recommendation to get local pricing. Ie if yuo go alone you will be overcharged but if you go with a regular / local person, then next time you will get charged local prices.Yes but the drive is going to want commission out of it.
If you take a local with you to show you the seen then he's going to want watering for the night.
So what you save on your guide getting you local prices you spend on the guides drinks round.
Info on this page seems completely usesless and outdated. There are some places listed on there that closed down before 2005. Recommend you un-bookmark this webpage.So I guess you are now the 3rd person to condemn this web site.
No point mapping out the clubs listed on the site if half are gone!
I was there a year ago, girls at the hostess bars asking 100 usd for short time. I can't recall right now the name of the bar,
If you have a smart phone, I highly recommend Uber.Thanks that sounds like good useful info, I might try that out. I was hoping someone here could recommend a specific driver they knew.
MutantChicken
11-21-15, 11:23
Yes but the drive is going to want commission out of it.
If you take a local with you to show you the seen then he's going to want watering for the night.
So what you save on your guide getting you local prices you spend on the guides drinks round.Yes I agree there is no such thing as a free lunch. I suggest what you do is hire a bike and ride around looking for these places, avoid paying 100 usd ST, and 500 k for HJ and 50 usd for bjs, as locals pay 40 usd for St, 10 usd for HJ and 15 usd for BJ. When you have spent your holiday looking for these places. Then next time come back and exchange with info with someone who also knows something, as ID doubt you'd be willing to give it out for nothing given the time and effort you made. As its most likely after sharing you will come back only to find out that your hard earnt discovery has been spoilt both in price and in the girls attitude. That being said if you so worried about commissions and buy drinks for "guides" then its best you DIY.
Yes I agree there is no such thing as a free lunch. I suggest what you do is hire a bike and ride around looking for these places, avoid paying 100 usd ST, and 500 k for HJ and 50 usd for bjs, as locals pay 40 usd for St, 10 usd for HJ and 15 usd for BJ. When you have spent your holiday looking for these places. Then next time come back and exchange with info with someone who also knows something, as ID doubt you'd be willing to give it out for nothing given the time and effort you made. As its most likely after sharing you will come back only to find out that your hard earnt discovery has been spoilt both in price and in the girls attitude. That being said if you so worried about commissions and buy drinks for "guides" then its best you DIY.Well it just pays to shop around MC! Don't it!
Though I think the prices you have quoted there seen to be a bit increte like, don't you?
LukeSkywalker
12-03-15, 00:54
http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City
Here are Saigon red-light districts:
Main red-light district in Ho Chi Minh City is Hoa Binh Park, located on the corner of Hung Vuong and Nguyen Chi Thanh streets, about 2 miles South West of the back packer Pham Ngu Lao area:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/c%C3%B4ng+vi%C3%AAn+Ho%C3%A0+be%C3%ACnh / at 10.7608115,106.6729868,18 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0000000000000000:0 x3 d84664 e74 c8 b9 b0.
On a stretch of street that is only 500 meters long, running from Nguyen Chi Thanh Street to Hoa Binh Park, prostitution activities seem to go on around the clock.
Prostitutes parade themselves on this street every day from early morning till mid night. They used to cruise the street only at night but recently have started to.
Hang around here all day long.
It is estimated that around 20-25 prostitutes of the night work this stretch of the street.
Other streets for prostitution, such as LE Tuan Mau and Kinh Duong Vuong in District 6, Hong Bang in District 5.
Cong Hoa in Tan Binh District, 23-9 Park in District 1, Linh Xuan Bypass in Thu Duc District and An Suong T-Road in District 12.
Have also seen prostitutes publicly waving down passers-by.
The Crazy Buffalo.
De Tham 212, District 1, One of Saigon's most popular night spots, "The Crazy Buffalo" offers outdoor open air seating at one of the busiest intersections in the city. This bar is open 24/7. You can find prostitutes here around 3 am.
MutantChicken
12-03-15, 16:22
http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City
Here are Saigon red-light districts:
Main red-light district in Ho Chi Minh City is Hoa Binh Park, located on the corner of Hung Vuong and Nguyen Chi Thanh streets, about 2 miles South West of the back packer Pham Ngu Lao area:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/c%C3%B4ng+vi%C3%AAn+Ho%C3%A0+be%C3%ACnh / at 10.7608115,106.6729868,18 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0000000000000000:0 x3 d84664 e74 c8 b9 b0.
On a stretch of street that is only 500 meters long, running from Nguyen Chi Thanh Street to Hoa Binh Park, prostitution activities seem to go on around the clock.
Prostitutes parade themselves on this street every day from early morning till mid night. They used to cruise the street only at night but recently have started to..This has already been post by James02. Very old info. Prob only 5% correct if you wantt o waste you time please feel free to check it out. But when you find nothing or at best old 40+ MILFs. Don't be surprised.
This has already been post by James02. Very old info. Prob only 5% correct if you wantt o waste you time please feel free to check it out. But when you find nothing or at best old 40+ MILFs. Don't be surprised.Yes I do remember posting this question about said. Web site. And as I remember I was told it was all out of date.
Does anyone know of a few bars where you can drink with ex pats who now live in HMC and swap stories kind of thing.
MutantChicken
12-07-15, 01:00
Does anyone know of a few bars where you can drink with ex pats who now live in HMC and swap stories kind of thing.Check out Huynh Thuc khang street, have bars called the office, drunken duck or something like that, filled with expats, and they do have girls BUT not for *****ing, you expected to date them give them a monthly allowance etc, they are there for companionship and conversation etc.
Check out Huynh Thuc khang street, have bars called the office, drunken duck or something like that, filled with expats, and they do have girls BUT not for *****ing, you expected to date them give them a monthly allowance etc, they are there for companionship and conversation etc.So are you saying the bar is called the drunken duck on Huynh Thuc khang street?
What is or do you mean by the office?
Many scammers in there?
CRLuverGuy
12-11-15, 04:14
Anyone can recommend a ST hourly hotels in Binh Thanh area close to Dien Bien Phu st? Somewhere not needing ID just cash.
So are you saying the bar is called the drunken duck on Huynh Thuc khang street?
What is or do you mean by the office?
Many scammers in there?What MC is saying is most of the girly bars are around the Thon That Thiep, Huynh Thuc Khang, Ho Tung Mao, Pasteur streets. A few of them are: Fox bar, Xu Xu, The office, Kims, Vinyl, there are many, just walk around and you will see them. But don't be mistaken, the girls in these bars will typically not go home with any guys, unless you are a regular. These are BMD bars. If you go to them without the expectation of getting a f*ck you can have a nice time. There was one bar where they actively scammed people, it was the Chili Bar, but I think that has closed down. If you are on a budget, go light on the Girl drinks in these places as they are $6 or $7 a pop. (But that is still quite a bit less than Singapore I guess).
What MC is saying is most of the girly bars are around the Thon That Thiep, Huynh Thuc Khang, Ho Tung Mao, Pasteur streets. A few of them are: Fox bar, Xu Xu, The office, Kims, Vinyl, there are many, just walk around and you will see them. But don't be mistaken, the girls in these bars will typically not go home with any guys, unless you are a regular. These are BMD bars. If you go to them without the expectation of getting a f*ck you can have a nice time. There was one bar where they actively scammed people, it was the Chili Bar, but I think that has closed down. If you are on a budget, go light on the Girl drinks in these places as they are $6 or $7 a pop. (But that is still quite a bit less than Singapore I guess).Apologies if I have not made my question clear; but I will state it again.
For this question; I am looking for drinking bars where I can meat up with like minded people like myself whom are mainly expats, and drink swap stories with.
NguyetLang
12-12-15, 06:07
Does anyone know of a few bars where you can drink with ex pats who now live in HMC and swap stories kind of thing.Hic. I usually go to bar looking for girls, not expats, however, have met some interesting folks at Go2 bar in the Bui Vien backpackers area. It is a bar mainly for late night pickup, but you will find plenty of expats, some pretty drunk by that time, willing to talk up a storm with you. Of course they can also drink. Very well. There were times that I got pretty wasted and totally forgot about picking girls, untill next day. Cheers,
Peter.
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http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City
Here are Saigon red-light districts:
Main red-light district in Ho Chi Minh City is Hoa Binh Park, located on the corner of Hung Vuong and Nguyen Chi Thanh streets, about 2 miles South West of the back packer Pham Ngu Lao area:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/c%C3%B4ng+vi%C3%AAn+Ho%C3%A0+be%C3%ACnh / at 10.7608115,106.6729868,18 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0000000000000000:0 x3 d84664 e74 c8 b9 b0.
On a stretch of street that is only 500 meters long, running from Nguyen Chi Thanh Street to Hoa Binh Park, prostitution activities seem to go on around the clock.
Prostitutes parade themselves on this street every day from early morning till mid night. They used to cruise the street only at night but recently have started to.
Hang around here all day long.
It is estimated that around 20-25 prostitutes of the night work this stretch of the street.
Other streets for prostitution, such as LE Tuan Mau and Kinh Duong Vuong in District 6, Hong Bang in District 5.
Cong Hoa in Tan Binh District, 23-9 Park in District 1, Linh Xuan Bypass in Thu Duc District and An Suong T-Road in District 12.
Have also seen prostitutes publicly waving down passers-by.
The Crazy Buffalo.
De Tham 212, District 1, One of Saigon's most popular night spots, "The Crazy Buffalo" offers outdoor open air seating at one of the busiest intersections in the city. This bar is open 24/7. You can find prostitutes here around 3 am.Nguyen Tri Thanh is still very active. I'd suggest going there on a weekend evening for possibly the best choice, but they are there all day. Daytime is difficult because they often wear masks then. You can ride next to them and make a deal or stop your bike on the side of the road and they will approach you. There seem to be a few ok girls here, among the lesser ones.
Hong Bang usually has a couple ok girls on the right side as you approach Nguyen Trai St in the evening. I don't ride down the other side so not sure about that.
I rode down LE Tuan Mau last Friday night. A few low quality girls there. Not worth going there.
There always seem to be some fat women standing in front of Hung Vuong High School or near the Parkson on Hung Vuong Street. I assume these are SW, but I can't imagine who would pay for that. Anyone know what their deal is? I'm curious, but don't want to stop and ask.
As recently as a few months ago, there was a spot on Ly Thuong Kiet with some nice looking SW. I took one and it seems that 500,000 was standard plus 100 for the hotel. If you want a SW in this area, this is where I'd go.
Just as a side note, there are male SW on the streets around Hung Vuong Primary School in the evening. They ride on Motorbikes.
LukeSkywalker
12-13-15, 07:50
Thanks for the good info. You must ride around that area often. Are there risks of set ups and crimes in that area? I think the hotels take down IDs of every guests.
I usually cruise the areas near the main market and the back packers district, occasionally came across a few real gems on the streets. But you have to cruise around until you find the right ones.
Wonder if there are better selections with the girls listed in the sites like DANCHOI.XXX, KYNU.NET, BANHMY. US? They post very nice pics. The web sites post infos about the girls' conducts. If you have any problems you can complain to the operators.
Thanks for your info. Hope to hear more from you.
Nguyen Tri Thanh is still very active. I'd suggest going there on a weekend evening for possibly the best choice, but they are there all day. Daytime is difficult because they often wear masks then. You can ride next to them and make a deal or stop your bike on the side of the road and they will approach you. There seem to be a few ok girls here, among the lesser ones.
Hong Bang usually has a couple ok girls on the right side as you approach Nguyen Trai St in the evening. I don't ride down the other side so not sure about that.
As recently as a few months ago, there was a spot on Ly Thuong Kiet with some nice looking SW. I took one and it seems that 500,000 was standard plus 100 for the hotel. If you want a SW in this area, this is where I'd go.s.
Thanks for the good info. You must ride around that area often. Are there risks of set ups and crimes in that area? I think the hotels take down IDs of every guests.
I usually cruise the areas near the main market and the back packers district, occasionally came across a few real gems on the streets. But you have to cruise around until you find the right ones.
Wonder if there are better selections with the girls listed in the sites like DANCHOI.XXX, KYNU.NET, BANHMY. US? They post very nice pics. The web sites post infos about the girls' conducts. If you have any problems you can complain to the operators.
Thanks for your info. Hope to hear more from you.Very high AIDS rate amongst motorbike girls. They have to do so many customers per night, it's just a matter of time. You would need to have a very serious trust in your condom.
Hello gents,
I am exotic companion based in Toronto but I was born and raised in Vietnam! I wonder how is the rate over there, is it possible to charge VND 4.0 M / HR.
Thank you.If you charge 4 mil ST, you would be one of the most expensive girls in Vietnam. It would be very, very difficult in Vietnam, unless you are absolutely stunning and have a brilliant character to match. You will have to go to Singapore (Brix) or Shanghai (Manhattan) to achieve those rates.
What MC is saying is most of the girly bars are around the Thon That Thiep, Huynh Thuc Khang, Ho Tung Mao, Pasteur streets. A few of them are: Fox bar, Xu Xu, The office, Kims, Vinyl, there are many, just walk around and you will see them. But don't be mistaken, the girls in these bars will typically not go home with any guys, unless you are a regular. These are BMD bars. If you go to them without the expectation of getting a f*ck you can have a nice time. There was one bar where they actively scammed people, it was the Chili Bar, but I think that has closed down. If you are on a budget, go light on the Girl drinks in these places as they are $6 or $7 a pop. (But that is still quite a bit less than Singapore I guess).My next question is.
Can you get the girl for ST or LT for 800 k and under?
LukeSkywalker
12-14-15, 04:21
I hear you. Some moto girls are loaded up with drugs so bad their eyes are red and watering.
But all working girls, not just the moto girls, carry higher risks of HIV, AIDS and other diseases. Surprisingly non pros also carry diseases, some unknowing.
I would be afraid of being set up, beaten and robbed by these moto girls who are difficult to trace. I think the call girls on web sites are better-looking and safer, easily traced if crimes occur.
Very high AIDS rate amongst motorbike girls. They have to do so many customers per night, it's just a matter of time. You would need to have a very serious trust in your condom.
I hear you. Some moto girls are loaded up with drugs so bad their eyes are red and watering.
But all working girls, not just the moto girls, carry higher risks of HIV, AIDS and other diseases. Surprisingly non pros also carry diseases, some unknowing.
I would be afraid of being set up, beaten and robbed by these moto girls who are difficult to trace. I think the call girls on web sites are better-looking and safer, easily traced if crimes occur.I have read some good articles about this. With any STD, the risk is highest amongst the people who have sex the most, and amongst those, with the ones who have sex the most with others who also have sex the most. Basically each single time you have sex, that is an opportunity to contract a disease. The more opportunities, the higher the risk. If you were clean and have sex with someone who doesn't have sex often, or only with one partner, your chances are lower because obviously that persona has one or few partners, and probably none of those other partners of hers are promiscuous. Now in contrast, if you go with a girl who is sleeping around with a different partner every night, in an environment (like a disco or something) where most of her partners are doing the same, the risk is much higher. She's sleeping often with promiscuous partners, who are also sleeping with lots of promiscuous partners. Does this make sense?
Motorbike girls and maybe some others in different scenes are sleeping with incredible numbers of partners, my guesstimate is 6-12 PER NIGHT, maybe more if the girl is attractive. If one girl in that scene gets AIDS (already high risk just being there), and there is one customer who is going around trying different girls there, then before long other girls will have it, and all their customers will too. Customers and girls will basically be spreading the disease back and forth to each other. And then it will spread to spouses and partners.
Thanks for the good info. You must ride around that area often. Are there risks of set ups and crimes in that area? I think the hotels take down IDs of every guests.
I usually cruise the areas near the main market and the back packers district, occasionally came across a few real gems on the streets. But you have to cruise around until you find the right ones.
Wonder if there are better selections with the girls listed in the sites like DANCHOI.XXX, KYNU.NET, BANHMY. US? They post very nice pics. The web sites post info about the girls' conducts. If you have any problems you can complain to the operators.
Thanks for your info. Hope to hear more from you.Does anybody can give inform. About how to contact the girls on those websites? At kynu at lead they show phone numbers. But for Banhmy I have no glue and my Vietnamese is rather weak.
LukeSkywalker
12-14-15, 19:46
With anonymity, flexibility and independence, a lot of girls work the web in Vietnam now. They are significantly cleaner, better-looking, better attitudes, less hassles and costing less than all other alternatives.
Without speaking local language, I suggest you make a list of girls, with their phone numbers, passwords, descriptions and hotel locations.
Find a younger Uber or taxi driver who speak a little English. Ask him to make the phone calls in Viet and confirm the prices, services, time, and locations.
Have him drive you there, wait for the girl to show up, and confirm the looks of the girls with all service details before renting the room.
Give him a generous tip and ask him to wait for you or return to pick you up in about 1 hour.
Most drivers would have no problem helping you to have sex with the girls. You may have to give them good tips but it would still be much cheaper, quicker, surer, more secured, less hassles and less bullshit than fucking around with old, ugly, skanky street, bar and karaoke girls.
Do report back how well it worked to help other bros.
Does anybody can give inform. About how to contact the girls on those websites? At kynu at lead they show phone numbers. But for Banhmy I have no glue and my Vietnamese is rather weak.
Does anybody can give inform. About how to contact the girls on those websites? At kynu at lead they show phone numbers. But for Banhmy I have no glue and my Vietnamese is rather weak.Forget banhmy. They make you pay for the numbers and it's loaded with fake ads. Use danchoi.xxx or kynu.net or thiendia.com. There's others too but these are the most active ones. Google "gai goi" for more. You can use google translate to try to translate the pages, but really all you need are the phone numbers and pictures, ok and the price and the general area she is in. You can handle communication via SMS, using Google translate app. 90% of the time if you jsut sms her "them co ranh khong?" when you are ready to go, she'll reply with the hotel address, and off you go. Check in and then SMS her again which room to meet you in. Sit on bed, you can handle the rest.
"them co ranh khong?" Not them.
This forum changes what I type, and I have no way to fix it. I'm unable to go back and edit it because my account has some bug that blocks me doing that.
The first word should not be "them" (thanks for the help, Jackson) but just the two letters "E" followed by "M", which means "you". The phrase means "Are you free?
Have you ever been to Vietnam?
I would be very cautions following mongering advice or suggestions from a person who has never been to the country, and who clearly understands little about the mongering scene in either HCMC or Hanoi.
Ikksman.
P.S. I remember your first post in Vietnam earlier this year: "Lots of beautiful girls in the internet. " WTF?
With anonymity, flexibility and independence, a lot of girls work the web in Vietnam now. They are significantly cleaner, better-looking, better attitudes, less hassles and costing less than all other alternatives.
Without speaking local language, I suggest you make a list of girls, with their phone numbers, passwords, descriptions and hotel locations.
Find a younger Uber or taxi driver who speak a little English. Ask him to make the phone calls in Viet and confirm the prices, services, time, and locations.
Have him drive you there, wait for the girl to show up, and confirm the looks of the girls with all service details before renting the room.
Give him a generous tip and ask him to wait for you or return to pick you up in about 1 hour.
Most drivers would have no problem helping you to have sex with the girls. You may have to give them good tips but it would still be much cheaper, quicker, surer, more secured, less hassles and less bullshit than fucking around with old, ugly, skanky street, bar and karaoke girls.
Do report back how well it worked to help other bros.
Not them.
This forum changes what I type, and I have no way to fix it. I'm unable to go back and edit it because my account has some bug that blocks me doing that.
The first word should not be "them" (thanks for the help, Jackson) but just the two letters "E" followed by "M", which means "you". The phrase means "Are you free?Try making the required text italics, bold or blue, or a combination. You should be able to see the actual symbols that I have used if you "reply" to my post.
"Are you free?"
"em co ranh khong?"
"em co ranh khong?"
"em co ranh khong?"
Ikks
If you charge 4 mil ST, you would be one of the most expensive girls in Vietnam. It would be very, very difficult in Vietnam, unless you are absolutely stunning and have a brilliant character to match. You will have to go to Singapore (Brix) or Shanghai (Manhattan) to achieve those rates.Thank you so much for your feedback. How is the rate rank in VN?
MileHigh303
12-15-15, 05:00
This year I have been to Vietnam twice. I do not know locations I have visited. I occasionally check out what people say on the forum. There are really no websites that will make it that much easier. We chat is used a lot for pimps trying to find customers some even only seeing foreigners. The girls in all my experiences with we chat absolutely suck. The only thing they have going is how fast they can get to your door. Pictures were never of the girl. Super mechanical as well. I've been to only one undercover hoc toc place and the girl I got was amazing. She is actually considered a "hot girl" some saying for trendy hot girls or something. She has huge followers on facebook. I was in danang where girl prices are more that that of Saigon. All the girls I saw in Vietnam were BBBJ. The prices in danang were about 4-5 mill for all night. 2.5-3 mill for short time. But these were referred through small network of people. Not we chat. Once you get in and find a good girl just ask about her friends. Also try the app Zalo for regular girls. The best best place for me was karaoke bars. Go with small group pick some girls to sit with you for awhile and ask them to go with you. You can even ask the momma before hand only line up the girls that are willing to go after wards. Those girls have been best for me GFE to the max. They actually enjoy staying the night and having breakfast in morning with you.
Thank you so much for your feedback. How is the rate rank in VN?500 K budget option, local girls, no English, hit and miss ST.
1 Mil, the high end massage places, some limited English, should be ok-ish, ST.
2 Mil and over, very high end, expect a great time with a great looking girl possibly LT, picked up at Apo with great English and character.
May I suggest that you post a picture of yourself and we can tell you more exact what bracket you may fall into.
As a rule, sex is freely available in Vietnam and hence it is not a commodity that has a big value.
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500 K budget option, local girls, no English, hit and miss ST.Where would you have to go to find girls for this money?
Where would you have to go to find girls for this money?Girls for this money can be found online at sites like danchoi.xxx and kynu.net. Use Google Chrome browser with automatic translation from Vn. En and you will get the basics. Read back for a few months in the "Finding Girls Online" thread and you will find detailed descriptions of how this works.
http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City
Here are Saigon red-light districts:
Main red-light district in Ho Chi Minh City is Hoa Binh Park, located on the corner of Hung Vuong and Nguyen Chi Thanh streets, about 2 miles South West of the back packer Pham Ngu Lao area:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/c%C3%B4ng+vi%C3%AAn+Ho%C3%A0+be%C3%ACnh / at 10.7608115,106.6729868,18 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0000000000000000:0 x3 d84664 e74 c8 b9 b0.
On a stretch of street that is only 500 meters long, running from Nguyen Chi Thanh Street to Hoa Binh Park, prostitution activities seem to go on around the clock..I went this week to some of those places mentioned within the wikisexguide article.
I don't know how old this report is, but from 7 recommended places none was existing anymore.
Among them:
Gringos Bar and Grill.
Zest Spa.
All Hair Salons at Bui Thi Xuan street.
My Anh.
I went after to a Haircut shop around Bui Thi Xuan shop where I saw a couple of girls sitting around inside in nice dresses. That made me thinking a bit. So I stepped in and ask what service they provide.
Surprisingly I got a full body massage offered for 300.000 VND. I picked a sweet girl, 20 Years old and we went up to the 3 floor in a clean and slightly enlighten room.
She started the massage. No talk about sex and I even had to wear a short for the massage. After 10 min. I asked her to take off my short and she followed. Then I started to touch her legs. She didn't complain so I got a bit more nasty.
Finally I got a fantastic BJ for 500.000 VND and a phone number. She couldn't take off her clothes cz. She was afraid that her boss discover the situation. There was a small window in the sanded glass door where someone could look in from outside.
So after the massage I asked her if she want to visit me at my hotel the next day. We agreed on 1 Mill. For a nice FS. It was unbelievable. She turned out to be one of the kind who gets really hot as soon as being in a private environment. We had 2 hour of great pleasure and we stay in touch.
I guess there are plenty of surprises out there. You just need to walk around with open eyes and be polite.
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