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Onojdi
01-13-17, 08:36
If you visit some of these places, please post a brief report. I'll be at that area after 2 weeks and can use some insiders info.


To DJWhyTee and NguyenLang, thank you very much. It is too bad that the action will be diminished for some of the time that I am in Vietnam, but I will try. And it is very interesting to know the background about those streets. Dien Bien Phu I believe was a famous battle against the French, therefore it is a good place to have a blow job. This would seem more meaningful if I was French.

Now I'm staying in the New World Hotel. There's a hair salon across the street called Mai Anh, at 60 Pham Hong Thai street, and there's pretty ladies in sexy dresses and high heels sitting there, making smile faces to me as I walk by. I noticed a couple more similar places around the corner on LE Anh Xuan street. Do anyone know about these places? There is a Burger King just about 2 doors up from Mai Anh hair salon.

I took Uber car 2 days ago and kept my same driver for some hours as I did some errands and sightseeing. When we had coffee he told me about some places to go see, and he said he can tell me more later.

NguyetLang
01-14-17, 10:02
Now I'm staying in the New World Hotel. There's a hair salon across the street called Mai Anh, at 60 Pham Hong Thai street, and there's pretty ladies in sexy dresses and high heels sitting there, making smile faces to me as I walk by. I noticed a couple more similar places around the corner on LE Anh Xuan street. Do anyone know about these places? There is a Burger King just about 2 doors up from Mai Anh hair salon.

I took Uber car 2 days ago and kept my same driver for some hours as I did some errands and sightseeing. When we had coffee he told me about some places to go see, and he said he can tell me more later.I have not tried Mai Anh in particular, but places like that around Ben Thanh do have "happy ending" and even takeouts. If you stay in New World Hotel you should have no problem bringing back a girl to your room. Tip the hotel boys well and you can get lots of information from them. Last time I stayed at a hotel called Blessing 1, tipped the door man 50 k and do some small talk, I got more info than I can use in my short trip there. He even arranged for a girl to come to my room. I also had good experience with Uber driver (better than taxi driver, for mongering info). If language is a problem, tell him you want to stay in district 1. Outer districts (like D10 or D8) are cheaper but the girl may be no-English. Just as a benchmark, D1 takeout to your room average about 1 M (with your right to refuse / exchange). The same girl in D10 or D8 would cost half that (about 500 k) but no-English.

Enjoy Vietnam!

Pipe Layer99
01-15-17, 16:09
Just back from another trip to hcmc. Good fun had all over. HTCDs, Go2 club, and 1 internet girl. Believe it or not the internet girl found me on wechat. Had he come over, we hit it off and bam. Great sex, and took photos after. Then she left, and I went to eat. She hits me up again while I'm eating. I tell her she can come for round 2. She agrees. Came back and banged again. Gave her $20 USD for the second time.

First session donation was 1. 1 m vnd ($50 USD).

Funny thing happened. After the second session, she wanted to spend then night. But I was leaving in the afternoon, so I said no. Besides, IMO she could have stayed after the first session but said she wanted to go get some food. So no deal. Gave an 20 extra dollars and said thank you. The next day she send a message saying have a good day. . Sometime we get lucky and find a good one. Happened twice on this trip.

JD468
01-17-17, 08:21
I have been to that Mai Anh about 2 years ago. It was much the same as the shops on Bui Thi Xuan. The girls look sexy but nothing actually happens. I have only heard very occasional stories of guys getting a HJ in these type of places, and only then after many visits and building a bond with the girl. I have never tried to take out, so I don't know if they would or not (quite possible after closing time) As a tourist my advice would be, don't bother.

With regards to bar fines in the PNL Bui Vien area. Most of the girls that sit in these bars are on WeChat. Offer 1 Mil before they tell you what they want, otherwise you get into a situation where they think they lose face if they drop the price too much from their 1. 5 M original request, and most will be willing to hook up. Bar fines are completely unnecessary. It is much cheaper to go to an A25 hotel in the area. And say to them "I am here in room xx, I give you 1 mil, come now.

P.S., when it comes to WeChat I also have a rule. I message them, real picture 1 Mil, fake picture 400 K, no discussion. The fakes drop off quite quickly.

Happy hunting.

RoseBowl
01-18-17, 02:46
Did a search that returned some info stating one can get generic cialis at Medicare for 160 k (4 20 MG pills).

This was a little bit dated. Are the prices still the same? Also, can pick them up at any pharmacy without prescription?

Thanks.

JD468
01-19-17, 03:25
You can buy generic Cialis and Viagra at almost all pharmacies in Vietnam. They retail for about 150 - 250 K per packet.

Real Viagra is available at selected pharmacies for approx. 700 K.

Ctoni
01-19-17, 05:49
Now about Zalo, I like it too, but I get these spam messages quoting 400 k and when I discuss this with the wechat girls they say its not real and they warn me that its a set up and I may get robbed. I'm assuming the Zalo profiles are just as fake as wechat ones. Usually the accounts are disabled after a day or two.If you are just calling them to come to the Hotel I wouldn't worry at all about being robbed. I sometimes get fake ones coming, well girls not the same as the pic anyway, and I just send them away and block that account on zalo.

AmericanThief
01-19-17, 08:18
Avoid the fake and generic viagra or cialis. Buy Adagrin 4 pack 50 MG each for 90,000. Its real sildfel nitrate and risk free.

EatALotOpus
01-19-17, 11:53
Had good luck with Megafort. The local Cialis only lasts much longer. I came about it by way of a pharmacist. Not all the pharmacies have it. Mostly the larger ones. The one on Bui Vien does or can procure it for you. Relatively cheap but can't remember the exact price.

RoseBowl
01-19-17, 18:22
Avoid the fake and generic viagra or cialis. Buy Adagrin 4 pack 50 MG each for 90,000. Its real sildfel nitrate and risk free.That is super cheap.

That is Viagra. I've only used cialis.

Other than the time of effects is there any other difference?

For some reason I have it in my mind Viagra just gets you hard without real sexual stimulation. Don't want to be walking around in the street and get a rock hard stiff.

RoseBowl
01-19-17, 18:44
Had good luck with Megafort. The local Cialis only lasts much longer. I came about it by way of a pharmacist. Not all the pharmacies have it. Mostly the larger ones. The one on Bui Vien does or can procure it for you. Relatively cheap but can't remember the exact price.Megafort is the VN generic cialis?

EconMan
01-21-17, 17:27
Megafort is the VN generic cialis?It is. 20 MG Tadalafil made by US company Ampharco for Vietnam. Each box: 2 packs, 2 pills each.

EatALotOpus
01-21-17, 22:10
It is. 20 MG Tadalafil made by US company Ampharco for Vietnam. Each box: 2 packs, 2 pills each.Thanks EconMan for backing my claim. Tried to respond but I must to not pushed the Submit button.

I've used Megafort for about three months that I was there. It was with a private hence not reports on that. The only difference I notice between Cialis and Megafort is that Megafort last longer. About 2-3 days and still no side effects. Did you use it? What was / is your experience with it?

AmericanThief
01-22-17, 11:25
That is super cheap.

That is Viagra. I've only used cialis.

Other than the time of effects is there any other difference?

For some reason I have it in my mind Viagra just gets you hard without real sexual stimulation. Don't want to be walking around in the street and get a rock hard stiff.Correction Adagrin comes 3 tablets in a pack for 90,000 vnd. 50 MG of Sildenafil citrate. It doesn't feel as strong as Viagra, and the side effects are less, but sometimes I get a headache if I don't eat, however it seems to work better on an empty stomach.

And yes, it will get you hard even when you're not aroused, but its never happened to me outside. Usually when I'm at home waiting for my girl to come over I'll pitch a tent. I'd say it lasts about 12-24 hours. I took one yesterday and banged my girl, went out for dinner and drinks and went a second round even after drinking.

Finished up one more time this morning and didn't have any side effects. I'm pretty satisfied with it especially the cost, but I'm going to give Megafort a try.

I usually take 100 MG Kamalagra gel but I ran out. I would stay away from Viagra brand in Vietnam, unless you get it from a hospital pharmacy. That shit they sell on Bui Vien is 100% fake.

Gypsie King
02-01-17, 05:06
I wonder how people get A+ action in Ho Chi Minh City. I have tried MPs, Gai gois and FLs. Every time I have inquired about A+ with a provider I have been strongly declined. Some providers will provide rimming but that's all I have been able to find.

GK.

BbbJon66
02-04-17, 16:54
I have a couple gals that allow it. PM me. YMMV but mine is short time on all-holes for 2.5 M.

Basically I brought one gal home from Apo and next time I just Wechat her and asked her to bring over a friend "to do same as her".


I wonder how people get A+ action in Ho Chi Minh City. I have tried MPs, Gai gois and FLs. Every time I have inquired about A+ with a provider I have been strongly declined. Some providers will provide rimming but that's all I have been able to find.

GK.

Gypsie King
02-04-17, 18:30
BBbjon,

When I tried to PM you the system said you either don't have a PM or you decided not to receive PMs.

GK.


I have a couple gals that allow it. PM me. YMMV but mine is short time on all-holes for 2.5 M.

Basically I brought one gal home from Apo and next time I just Wechat her and asked her to bring over a friend "to do same as her".

Wander Luster
02-07-17, 21:15
Had good luck with Megafort. The local Cialis only lasts much longer. I came about it by way of a pharmacist. Not all the pharmacies have it. Mostly the larger ones. The one on Bui Vien does or can procure it for you. Relatively cheap but can't remember the exact price.The "local" Cialis is amazing. I live here. My doc confirmed it's a partnership with a top Japanese Pharma. Very cheap. I use it much. Brand name is "STADA. " They make other meds as well that are super good price generics.

JamesOcla
02-15-17, 10:15
I have a girl that I bang every time I go to VN. I met her on Viet Cupid. She is an awesome girl. I have an older friend coming and I want one of her friends to "take care" of him for a couple days. How much should we pay her per day? She will be with him for 3 days probably day and night. She is not a FL or a working girl but just a girl that needs money. What would be a good price to offer per day? Any suggestions.

Rawraw
02-16-17, 10:26
I have a girl that I bang every time I go to VN. I met her on Viet Cupid. She is an awesome girl. I have an older friend coming and I want one of her friends to "take care" of him for a couple days. How much should we pay her per day? She will be with him for 3 days probably day and night. She is not a FL or a working girl but just a girl that needs money. What would be a good price to offer per day? Any suggestions.I will be in HCMC in a couple weeks. Would your friend's friend be open to discussing an arrangement? If so, please PM me.

EatALotOpus
02-16-17, 13:06
I have a girl that I bang every time I go to VN. I met her on Viet Cupid. She is an awesome girl. I have an older friend coming and I want one of her friends to "take care" of him for a couple days. How much should we pay her per day? She will be with him for 3 days probably day and night. She is not a FL or a working girl but just a girl that needs money. What would be a good price to offer per day? Any suggestions.Considering that a monthly salary for a mid range professional is about 5-7 mil. I would think 6 mil for 3 days plus meals would be good or even generous. Bonus if your friend treats her with respect.

Rawraw
02-16-17, 13:18
I have a couple gals that allow it. PM me. YMMV but mine is short time on all-holes for 2.5 M.

Basically I brought one gal home from Apo and next time I just Wechat her and asked her to bring over a friend "to do same as her".Hey BBbjon,

I can't PM you either. I would be interested in learning more too, please. Can you please PM me?

BlueBaron
02-18-17, 08:48
The "local" Cialis is amazing. I live here. My doc confirmed it's a partnership with a top Japanese Pharma. Very cheap. I use it much. Brand name is "STADA. " They make other meds as well that are super good price generics.Another one is Tadalfil that is made in partnership with German pharm company. Very cheap. I bought for 31 k for two pills, each pill is 10 MG.

Freezone
02-22-17, 04:29
Sorry to hear that Saigon is not to your liking. If you prefer the SYT and variety, plus quick service and firm pricing, head to a couple of beach towns in the North, Do Son and Quat Lam are the two that I have had great experience. At Quat Lam, after checking you into a room, girls will be delivered at your door for your choosing, in Do Son a lineup in the looby will be standard. You can go through several girls in one day if you can muster it, just tell the boy when, he will bring the new girl at your demand. The best part: fixed-price. The last time I was there, about 2 year ago, 250 k for ST, 600 k for LT (3's / night), every girl, all the time, at every hotel (it is unwrtten agreement between all the bosses there).

Watch the video below, originally posted by Tomsf in post #4210, very much like my experience at Quat Lam, except that I was there for only a weekend and had about 2-3 girls / day. That guy in the video must be horny and hung like a horse.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PL32StUuy1E

Hope you have better luck wherever your travel next.

Cheers,Both places seems like a nice alternative.

But having a hard time getting info on these places though.

Tried google and only very limited info. Can't even get a good answer on just how to get there. Agoda is a big hotel website so gave it a try and saw only a few hotel choices for Do Son in Agoda.com and some are not even near the beach area.

Tried to look up Quat Lam and its even worst as there wasn't even a hotel listing in Agoda.

Anyone can PM me with any useful info as I might give these places a try just for the experience of getting away from my usual mongering holes.

Thanks.

FreebieFan
02-22-17, 06:50
Both places seems like a nice alternative.

But having a hard time getting info on these places though.

Tried google and only very limited info. Can't even get a good answer on just how to get there. Agoda is a big hotel website so gave it a try and saw only a few hotel choices for Do Son in Agoda.com and some are not even near the beach area.

Tried to look up Quat Lam and its even worst as there wasn't even a hotel listing in Agoda.

Anyone can PM me with any useful info as I might give these places a try just for the experience of getting away from my usual mongering holes.

Thanks.If there are beaches there are hotels. Therfore there are also buses going to these places. Buses, including sleeper buses are incredibly cheap in Vietnam. Hahn, or Futa bus companies in District One will advise you. Just go and have an adventure. The trips we always regret are the ones we didn't take.

Freezone
02-25-17, 23:40
If there are beaches there are hotels. Therfore there are also buses going to these places. Buses, including sleeper buses are incredibly cheap in Vietnam. Hahn, or Futa bus companies in District One will advise you. Just go and have an adventure. The trips we always regret are the ones we didn't take.The problem is I'm no expert in Vietnam and don't speak the language at all. Only been Viet once (briefly--to HCMC and Hanoi for few days in each location) --mainly for sightseeing with some mongering thrown in when I could locate sites during my limited visit.

Love to explore Do Son and Quat Lam, but since I'm no expert with no language skills, will need at least some info to go on. Some hotels, prices, locations, how to get there etc.

Any links, suggestions, other forums I could read up on will be helpful for planning the trip. If anyone has done the trip in the past, then past along the info so I could also plan ahead. I will probably visit Vietnam in Oct or Nov if all goes well.

I will report back about my experiences but have to somehow get there first.

I know some of you have no problems just picking up and go but I prefer to plan ahead so not be ripped off upon arrival or wasting too much time heading in the wrong directions.

Thanks for any feedback.

PM me with info if you like.

Cheers.

DanTheMan
03-05-17, 04:09
I am currently in Hanoi, but was in HCM 2 weeks ago.

I didn't actively seek sex / HJ / BJ whatever but it found me.

Quick hint, any woman who advertises for massage, (handing out pamphlets, or asking you if you want a massage), then there is at least a HJ on offer. Any massage place which hasn't got women out the front spruking, will be a straight massage only establishment.

Stay clear of the places with about 5-6 girls out front with their tits hanging out. They are nothing more than rip off joints.

More when I return.

NB: a vietnamese mate of mine said you shouldn't pay any more that 700-800K for a HJ. If you d then you're being ripped off.

MutantChicken
03-05-17, 10:15
I am currently in Hanoi, but was in HCM 2 weeks ago.

NB: a vietnamese mate of mine said you shouldnt pay any more that 700-800K for a HJ. If you d then youre being ripped off.Try half that price, I usually pay 200-300 unless I take a VIP room in which case its about 600 k.

YellowPaul
03-05-17, 14:32
I am currently in Hanoi, but was in HCM 2 weeks ago.

I didn't actively seek sex / HJ / BJ whatever but it found me.

Quick hint, any woman who advertises for massage, (handig out pamplets, or asking you if you wan a massage), then there is at least a HJ on offer. Any massage place which hasnt got women out the front spruking, will be a straight massage only establishment.

Stay clear of the places with about 5-6 girls out front with their tits hanging out. They are nothign more than rip off joints.

More when I return.

NB: a vietnamese mate of mine said you shouldnt pay any more that 700-800K for a HJ. If you d then youre being ripped off.Agree. I stayed in the D1 backpacker last year. The girls handing out the flyers are ok but the many beer bars are a waste of time as most girls don't speak English and they are only to get to buy drinks.

QcBoy
03-06-17, 04:20
It's been awhile since I've been to HCMC. As echoed by a lot of the members here, HCMC isn't the most friendly mongering place in the world if you compare this to Thailand or the Philippines, but as I've learned, it's pretty easy to come by. My last trip was a last minute overnight business trip. Previously, I've had fun at the billiard halls to look for girls to "take home". This time around, I had a roommate, and only a few hours to burn. Like literally 2 hours. I tried getting another room, unfortunately, the hotel was quite booked.

In any case, it did turn out for the best. Not expecting to be able to do anything at night, I looked through the most convenient tool, the almighty smart phone. Turned on WeChat and out appears pics of cute women. I was also texting a hot Viet that I met in Shanghai, she said it was the time of the month but that she had friends, was asking for the price but she was reluctant to give it. Given the prices in Shanghai, I was reluctant to press her for it. So I typed away and could not believe how easy it is to set this up. It was 530, and I had a dinner meeting at 730, but by 6 pm I was out the door. Mind you, I am aware of the bait and switch, but sometimes, you just do something for the heck of it, sort of like a bucket list. So at 6, I hail a Vinasun taxi that wanted to charge me 2 M VND, which I did not pay, going to a ST hotel less than 10 minutes away. Crazy considering the girl wasn't even asking me for that amount. Anyway, I checked in, and by 615, this girl comes in. Again, wasn't really looking for a fantastic experience considering how all of this was set-up. All I wanted was a girl who I will not reject outright. Was her pic better than what it turned out? Yes. Was it bait and switch, I'm not sure. But Viets always seem to have nice curves. Overall, if I'm being strict, she's a 7. Nice body of around 7-8 and was nice enough to talk to. Felt quite tight too. Service was ok but not great. Just happy that I was able to accomplish something give the time allowed. With that in mind, if you just want to sneak out for something like this, I don't think there's any other place that's better than this. I don't know if I just got lucky that I wasn't overly scammed.

Our hosts also brought us to the Sky Bar for some drinks after dinner. Was able to meet some cute girls, however, the girl that I was partnered with didn't seem interested in anything else. The Bar does have a nice vibe though.

Overall, pretty good experience. On to the next.

Neworlean
03-30-17, 21:12
Let me begin by saying that I am not expert. I wish we had more usefully reports and less chatter. Finding girls.

Quick / Daytime.

WeChat. It is a great place to find someone quickly. All of the girls asked for the same price 1 million for ST and 2 million for LT. The problem is most of the girls look nothing like the picks and you will waste a lot of time trying to find something you like. You might get lucky. All the girls basically arrived in 30 minutes. Most of the wechat people are actually mangers and will send numerous picture. You will not find any really pretty girls. Most girls were subar. Wechat is also a great way to meet non working girls.

Street Action / Bar Area.

Guys approaced me and offered a girl and room for 900,000. They will bring multiple girls all subar. You will also see a few girls walking around. No stunners.

Barber Shops: For some strange reason they keep girls for massage.

Apocalypse Now Club. Attractive girls much better than the other two options. Asked for 3 million for 2 hours. They look pretty and dress well but the place is dark so who knows. It had the best options of anyplace I saw. I would love an suggestions. Please free to inbox me.

Neworlean
04-03-17, 09:59
There are really only 2 difference. The girls in Nha Trang seem much more like the girl next door. They are friendly and sweet. Next would be the price. I'm Ho ChI Minh they asked for 1 to 3 million. In Nha Trang they asked for 500 k to 1 million. I think the girls are prettier in Nha Trang.

If you need help a motorcycle guide will help for 30 to 50 dong. Also don't hesitate to go to a spa. Even if it looks closed knock on the door you will probably get a response. A lot of the little ugly looking hotels will be happy to assist you. Accidentally walked into Han Dang guest house at 11/7 C Nguyen Thein Thuat and I was blown away by what they offered. Nha Trang is better than Ho ChI Minh if you have the time and it has a beach.

Casey101
04-15-17, 04:11
Hi Neworlean,

I totally agree, more useful reports and less chatter. BTW, thanks for the information below.

I had the unfortunate experience of missing my flight and with my girlfriend flying the previous day. I had to scurry back to HCM (near Benh Thanh market) for a hotel to stay and found one. This happened 3 weeks ago.

First, the hotel maintenance guy asked me if I wanted a girl for straight massage for 400,000 Dong. I wanted to tell him that my girlfriend and I paid 100,000 plus 60,000 (for each of us) for straight massage, in one of the open market streets of Benh Thanh market (you won't miss it as they have touts outside the parlor soliciting prospective clients). I'm also sure I could get more "service" if my girlfriend wasn't with me.

Second, I went for a walk since it was on a Saturday night along Phạm Hồng TháI, when an older man, slouching on his motorbike, asked me if I wanted a girl. "Mr. Vu or Du" offered to take me to various places where the girls are, for straight sex. I climbed on his bike and he took me to an apartment building, near another market, about 5 minutes away from the Notre Dame cathedral.

The ladies were between rated 3-5 and I was ready to leave when a girl came out (about 7-8). I asked for her and the charge was 520,000 which I "negotiated" (unless it's their bargaining tactic) down to 500,000. I was expecting sex but it turned out a BJ. So, I asked for full service which was turned down.

The BJ was great and I was able to hold it off several times, and it pissed the girl (it wasn't even more than half an hour yet!) went out, slamming the door, came back in with some kind of lotion and you can tell she was pissed. Finally, I was ready and had the happy ending when I want it (and not on their hurried timetable).

Of course, she asked for her tip which was 60,000 dong.

I went down to pay the madame and pretended to move outside the building, turned my head back and saw her hand something (it has to be cash) to the old man. Nothing wrong with that but for some reason the old man acted out like whatever he was holding, "slipped off" his hand. It was hilarious, like I didn't see and know what was handed to him. I think he planned to squeeze me for a tip, hadn't I not seen the handout.

Anyway, I was still pissed at the old man, cause he promised sex and I wasn't looking for HJ or BJs (and I wouldn't mind paying the right and higher price). I told him about it and you get the normal denial / stupidity comment / look. I didn't said it in a confrontational or threatening manner as I am only a guest in their city / country. You want to avoid any verbal and physical entanglement with any locals in any country, as much as possible.

We got back to Phạm Hồng TháI and sure enough he still wanted to hook up with me (gave his phone number) the next day and of course, his tip. I told him, I'll see him tomorrow and started walking back to my hotel. I noticed he was following me and he then came over to ask me where my hotel was and other info. I told him that I will contact him tomorrow and gave him $2.00 to get lost.

There's never a shortage of touts or pimps asking if you wanted to have a good time, as most of you already know. The lesson I learned here is, I have to make it clear to the pimp (and madame) what I clearly wanted and so I won't get overcharged.

The map link below is where I found this old man (it's the cross street between the Burger King at Pham Hong Thai and towards LE Lai) if you want to contact or in my case, avoid him:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Burger+King,+District+1,+Ho+Chi+Minh,+Vietnam / Thien+Hoa+Hotel,+313+L%C3%9 D+T%E1%BB%B0+TR%E1%BB%8 CNG,+QU%E1%BA%ACN+1,+be%E1%BA%BFn+Th%C3%A0 nh,+Qu%E1%BA%ADn+1,+H%E1%BB%93+Ch%C3%AD+Minh,+Vietnam / at 10.7713005,106.6949347,18 z / data=!4 m8!4 m7!1 m2!1 m1!1 s0 x31752 f3 c26 e2 c6 f5:0 x2 cd151834942 dd42!1 m2!1 m1!1 s0 x31752 f3 c21 c7 b047:0 xd1 a2741 aa460 fef0!3 e0?hl=en-US.

Burger King, 74 - 76 Phạm Hồng TháI, beến Thành, Quận 1, Hồ Chí Minh 700000, Vietnam.


Let me begin by saying that I am not expert. I wish we had more usefully reports and less chatter. Finding girls.

Quick / Daytime.

WeChat. It is a great place to find someone quickly. All of the girls asked for the same price 1 million for ST and 2 million for LT. The problem is most of the girls look nothing like the picks and you will waste a lot of time trying to find something you like. You might get lucky. All the girls basically arrived in 30 minutes. Most of the wechat people are actually mangers and will send numerous picture. You will not find any really pretty girls. Most girls were subar. Wechat is also a great way to meet non working girls.

Street Action / Bar Area.

Guys approaced me and offered a girl and room for 900,000. They will bring multiple girls all subar. You will also see a few girls walking around. No stunners..

Mpl777
04-16-17, 19:35
Anyone ever try bringing a girl to an Airbnb? Seems like that might fly and not have to deal with hotel nonsense.

Asian Lover Oz
04-25-17, 08:46
Anyone ever try bringing a girl to an Airbnb? Seems like that might fly and not have to deal with hotel nonsense.Yes this is a viable option provided you do some research. I've had 3 Airbnb in HCMC and all managed to bring girls back. I found one guy that has a few places that are specifically ok to have guests stay over. The last place I just tried has super vigilant security and my visitor got stopped and had to register. Still ok, but best to avoid that situation if possible. Very embarrassing for her and me.

I usually try to qualify the Airbnb, if the house rules section mentions something about Vietnamese guests / prostitutes then I avoid. If it doesn't mention than that I usually email the owner and ask if it's possible that my Viet girlfriend may come to visit one night and judge from there what their response is. I stay in district 4 so it's a bit of a walk / taxi to the Bui Vien area.

Geneva Guy
04-25-17, 09:07
Yes this is a viable option provided you do some research. I've had 3 Airbnb in HCMC and all managed to bring girls back. I found one guy that has a few places that are specifically ok to have guests stay over. The last place I just tried has super vigilant security and my visitor got stopped and had to register. Still ok, but best to avoid that situation if possible. Very embarrassing for her and me.

I usually try to qualify the Airbnb, if the house rules section mentions something about Vietnamese guests / prostitutes then I avoid. If it doesn't mention than that I usually email the owner and ask if it's possible that my Viet girlfriend may come to visit one night and judge from there what their response is. I stay in district 4 so it's a bit of a walk / taxi to the Bui Vien area.I have to say I'm shocked. I have used airBNB in many countries (ok not in VN) but never had anyone tell me that I cannot bring a guest in. I book and state that there will be TWO people and no questions asked or answered from there.

GG.

Asian Lover Oz
04-25-17, 10:56
Yes it's not the booking part, its the on site security at most places that would be the issue. Some would likely enforce the "No Viets allowed to stay with foreigner" rule. Also some owners live in the same block as their Airbnb rental so I'm sure if they see you come back with a hooker from Bui Vien they would not take to kindly to that. Best to research as much as possible up front before booking, but overall it is a good option to have a nice place without all the hassles that goes with the more luxury hotels.


I have to say I'm shocked. I have used airBNB in many countries (ok not in VN) but never had anyone tell me that I cannot bring a guest in. I book and state that there will be TWO people and no questions asked or answered from there.

GG.

DocInHeat
04-26-17, 04:57
For something different. Chill Skybar is a great club, highest rooftop bar in HCMC. Its expensive and is mainly for locals and expats having fun, but there were definitely some high end WGs hanging around. Very pretty and dressed to impress, but I bet it would be significantly more than at Apocalypse. I didn't check, since I had company, but maybe in the future.

LetThemEatSake
04-26-17, 06:52
Anyone ever try bringing a girl to an Airbnb? Seems like that might fly and not have to deal with hotel nonsense.I did this with two dates I met from tinder. Had no problems. A great idea indeed.

Casey101
04-28-17, 08:12
I just booked an Airbnb with 2 "guests". They required me to type in the names and emails of my guests. I was just being upfront about bringing 2 "guests" and am willing to pay the extra cost but that triggered the inquiry.

Anyway, I just wrote their first names since I do not know their last names and will not ask them, they may back out. I also wrote my own email on both inquiries. So far, so good. We'll see if the owner pushes for more info or is a nosey person.

I do not know if this is an Airbnb policy ever since the much published horror stories of renters throwing parties and / or trashing the renters' places OR a standard procedure or if it's a feature / option for the owners.

I did remembered once, I rented a place near Lotte mall / Gimpo airport for less than 24 hours (it was an overnight flight). The owner sent a guy to deliver the wifi password which was unexpected, five hours after I arrived (I didn't even asked the owner as I was busy working with my notes). I have to let him in since he has to set it up. I do not know if this was just an innocent incident or he was sent to make sure I was alone, no parties, no trashing or mess.

This is the "risk" that you may have to encounter with airbnb.

I would also like to hear from others who have rented airbnb places and what their experiences were.


Anyone ever try bringing a girl to an Airbnb? Seems like that might fly and not have to deal with hotel nonsense.

Onojdi
05-01-17, 20:44
I'm feeling guilty that I only take but not share experience so now it is my turn to give back to the community.

I was in HCMC at the beginning of February for about a week and visited few interesting places. Before that I made my research here at internationalsexguide so thanks to all brothers who shared the tips. The next few lines are for those of you that are planning a trip to HCMC and are wondering where to go, how much it costs and what it will offer. Just remember. Smile, respect the girls, pay them well and you will get what you want from them plus a lot more.

Day 1: the moral of the story is "LE Thanh Ton street not good, beùI Việand street awful. Do not hunt there".

I visited the area known as Little Tokyo. In other words. The shops at LE Thanh Ton street. It was during the day, around 3 PM and I was in a hurry because I had a meeting at 6 PM. I decide to drink a beer in a bar situated just opposite to few massage parlors and to see what is going on around the street. Then I saw a great looking girl waving at me at the front door of one of the shops. She was perfect and few minutes latter I was speaking with her. Well, she was the bait not a "therapist". The girls in the shop where quite ugly and looked very tired. I ask are there more girls, than 6-7 more came in but the quality was the same. I just said thanks and went outside. But I was in a hurry so no time for exploring and went to another shop few steps down the street. I took a girl that was so-so, we went to a shady ugly room and the massage begun. The short story was that she wanted something like additional 1000 000 to take her clothes off, and I forgot how much more for a BJ. The attitude wasn't good, the service was poor, the room as the service. Damage. Something like 300000 as I refuse to pay more for the extras.

Went back to the hotel, then to my meeting, then at midnight I was going to the hotel but was horny. Very. Went to beùI Việand street, find another so-so looking girl and again it was bad experience. Well it was my fault as I acted like an amateur searching a girl in tourist trap streets. Anyway the long story short. We went to second floor of a very old and ugly building with a room with 5 beds one next to another. Separated with a blanket. We were alone. Before that we arranged a price of 500 000 for massage with a BJ. When we arrived at that lovely room with 5 beds she asked for something like 1 500 000 for a "slow blowjob" as she said. And total of 2 000 000 for a FS. At the end we met at 750 000 but it was bad service, nothing special. The only memorable experience was when her mother called her and during the talks she took my hand and ask me to play with her pussy and tits. I did. It was. Interesting. BTW at that beùI Việand street all the girls were ugly, old, not good at all. Do not go there searching for girls. It is ok for bars, beers or just walking around, but girls. NO!

Day 2: The Boss Palace. Amazing place, definitely recommend!

Day two was much much better. I decide to stop the experiments and to go to a place that was recommended here in the forum. So I went to the Boss Palace hotel. The taxi stops in front of the hotel and then just ask the guys working in the hotel where is the massage parlor. They will escorts you to a something like a receptionist who will ask you what kind of room do you want. I took the best (pricey) available and I will recommend it to you. I think it was 1 000 000. The room was great. Sauna, bath tube, a table with candies and mineral water, wardrobe, safe box, everything was great. Then few minutes latter an amazing girl came in the room. Again the long story short. First sauna, we took a bath together, then amazing massage with some strange (in a good way) technics, then BBBJ with CIM. Everything combined with very GFE. I tipped her 500 000 as it was really great experience. And I'm telling that based on a few trips to Shanghai, Hong Kong and Bangkok.

Day 3: Hai Yan Massage. Good, you received what you expected. Recommend.

Hai Yan Massage is the typical barber shop. You enter, around you there is 15 good looking girls and you choose one of them. The Papasan escorts you to a room, you pay him 1 200 000 and two minutes latter the girl enters. The rooms are nothing good, nothing bad. Just typical for that kind of place. At that place the massage is optional, the Boom Boom is the thing that you are coming for. But I ask for a massage and I received a pretty good one. The girl was very GFE, gave everything that she have. Then the FS was quite good but nothing spectacular. Then a finish with a CIM. Everybody is happy, your clothes on, go out.

Day 4: Vung Tau, Post Office Hotel. Definitely recommend!

Well, another great great experience! The parlor is in the basement of the hotel, which is situated in the main pedestrian street. You enter in something like a reception and a woman behind a desk ask you about the service. In fact when they saw me they did not ask what exactly I want. I guess it was obvious I was escorted to a nice room with a bed, clean shower, an aquarium and few zen stones kind of a decoration. Then she came. Really really amazing girl, around 1.60 m. With HUGE boobs and very angel like face. Great body, great attitude. The price for this place is 1000000 for FS. She asked me for 1500000. I laughed and said that I know the price is lower but I liked her so much that I will not bargain. She laughed too, then we start teasing each other and had a memorable sex.

* (Tip. Vung Tau is different city, one hour drive from HCMC).

Day 5 and Day 6: Went to Nha Trang.

This is another city so it is not HCMC related and I will review in brief. Went to Hao the 4 parlor. Great room, the girl was not very GFE but did her job well. No FS, only B2 B massage and a BBBJ. Then at the next day I went to Hoa the 1 and it was the greatest mongering experience at Vietnam I will not say more, only that it was the best thing that happens to me in Vietnam!

Day 7: Go back to HCMC, again at Hai Yan Massage.

Same procedure, different girl. At the beginning she wasn't very enthusiastic but after few minutes hihi-haha chat she felt victim of my charm and everything went very good. A little bit of a massage, a little bit of play, a little bit of boom boom. Then from Hai Yan Massage I took a taxi to the airport and 2 hours latter I was flying to Europe.

Now when I'm writing that the memories comes and I have to say that it was one of my best trips ever. Bars, beaches, girls, happy memories. What else we can want from life.

MutantChicken
05-02-17, 14:22
Day 2: The Boss Palace. Amazing place, definitely recommend!

They will escorts you to a something like a receptionist who will ask you what kind of room do you want. I took the best (pricey) available and I will recommend it to you. I think it was 1 000 000. The room was great. Sauna, bath tube, a table with candies and mineral water, wardrobe, safe box, everything was great. Then few minutes latter an amazing girl came in the room. Again the long story short. First sauna, we took a bath together, then amazing massage with some strange (in a good way) technics, then BBBJ with CIM. Everything combined with very GFE. I tipped her 500 000 as it was really great experience. And I'm telling that based on a few trips to Shanghai, Hong Kong and Bangkok.
life.The VIP room is only 500 k and its well published if you bother to have researched.

RobertVince12
05-05-17, 19:57
Lots of talk on the board about AirBNB. I've always stayed 5 star with a restaurant and managed to meet the girl at the restaurant and scurry her up to my room. I've also just did it official and had the girl check in at the front desk, they call to verify they are sending her up, and then she appears at the door (maybe by herself and maybe with the bellman there). Never had a word said to me (Yet. Definitely not preferable).

WeChat is where they all hang out and whoever said it's run by managers or mammsans is right. They recycle shitty pics and you never get the same girl. It's varying service levels, I usually make sure I ask them if what I want is okay and then it usually is. Girls have been mostly attractive though, if a little mechanical. A couple I actually clicked with and got their personal digits and just hit them up directly now.

Best massage place I've been is Vien Dong Hotel. A little pricey but high end, good security and professional staff. Nothing more than a happy ending though.

Anyone got digits / pics happy to share.

WestLook
05-10-17, 00:40
My girlfriend and I will be traveling to Vietnam this summer and she wants in on some girl / girl action. Any recs on where to go for a naughty couples massage?

Wander Luster
05-24-17, 07:36
This place is out of control. I go there on the weekend to pick up single girls but also talk to the p4 p girls. They all now want $150, some even $200. It WAS common to find $100 or less last year. Don't waste your time. If this is your interest, go to back-packer street where they're not freelancing and charge less than $100.

EatALotOpus
06-01-17, 16:56
Anyone ever try bringing a girl to an Airbnb? Seems like that might fly and not have to deal with hotel nonsense.Not wanting any surprises I emailed the actual owner as he was using his condo as an investment property. Wanted to rent it for a month and I was up front with him telling him that I have a steady local. He declined me base on the fact that "it won't look good to the neighbour's" and he may have legal issues if someone reported it. Did not press it not looked for another condo on Airbnb.

KenDavis03
06-15-17, 04:52
Hi all -.

I am planning on a couple of visits to HCM this summer. As always, I am swamped with meetings, etc. So I am looking for 'sure thing' type of action. I know from a bit of experience that HCM isn't the easiest place to monger, though. A couple of?'s:

1) Is there a girl friendly hotel that is a nice Hilton / Intercontinental / Sheraton type hotel? Not those brands specifically, but a proper business hotel with all the amenities that is is also girl friendy? I 'hve mad mixed experiences with 3 star hotels in that city!

2) Are there any agencies that can send a girl over reliably? In most cities there is at least one legit escort service with top level girls that speak english, know how to be discrete, and show you a good time. I haven't seen this in HCM though!

Thanks in advance!!

Belvaros
06-17-17, 11:26
This place is out of control. I go there on the weekend to pick up single girls but also talk to the p4 p girls. They all now want $150, some even $200. It WAS common to find $100 or less last year. Don't waste your time. If this is your interest, go to back-packer street where they're not freelancing and charge less than $100.Seems to be the trend around the world now when places become attractive to the richer and mainly monger set from the west. Some broad in Marrakesh last year quoted me 300 Euros ST in a country where I dare not pay over $100 for a day with a 100/100 type.

Anyway, I laugh at some of the women in APO to their faces when they quote prices and tell them in my worst Vietnamese that I wouldn't pay them that in New York. Some of them find it funny and some just do not get my SOH.

Anyway, I haven't posted here on ISG in a long time. I have been in and out of lower SE Asia (Cambodia, Vietnam and others) for a while and am about to live full time in Saigon (or HCMC for you post war types). My experience here after RTFF (and I mean all the effing forum) is that the cafe route by day hit on the MILF route seems to work well. My technique is a bit slow but well proven. 1 Smile at her if you like her. Then ignore her 2. Come back the same time each day, rinse and repeat.

3. Wait until you think she is primed then pounce. I only go for the premium selections and live here so have plenty of time to waste and frankly enjoy the hunt as much as the ultimate kill.

Then again, I tend to agree with whoever wrote that the best sex and best prices I have had here (in nightclubs and bars) have been with the ladies who speak no English. I just say Hi, point to the door, show them a price on my cell phone and either leave with her or move onto the next (well not in APO but in just about any bar or semi-ho joint).

Thanks to everyone for all the reports. I now have 2 x 30+ MILFS on rotation and a twenty something who is on the marriage route semi-pro tour who costs a wee bit too much for my like in this cheap country, but as my brother says, A wet tip is better than a dry tip.

Once I am settled into a long term apt and have time I will write detailed name, rank and serial nos (plus pics) reports. I may buy a bar myself and set it up more like a large pool hall like they have in Casablanca (basically a cheap arms length brothel). We will see.

"Party on Wayne".

Belvaros
06-17-17, 11:34
Oh, and I should add that the guy who owns APO needs to update his [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor wine list, only crappy Jacobs Creek for house wine.

If you want to have some fun, I do suggest telling the young hoity- toity ladies that you would like to drink a peanut-butter banana smoothie off their naked bodies. Tried it on one mid 20's stunner (thought she was the Queen of England) and she was so shocked someone would talk like that she almost fell over!

Pak Mike
06-17-17, 22:58
Yep, 100% on the mark, and also my modus operandi. It works. Looking forward to your reports.


Seems to be the trend around the world now when places become attractive to the richer and mainly monger set from the west. Some broad in Marrakesh last year quoted me 300 Euros ST in a country where I dare not pay over $100 for a day with a 100/100 type.

Anyway, I laugh at some of the women in APO to their faces when they quote prices and tell them in my worst Vietnamese that I wouldn't pay them that in New York. Some of them find it funny and some just do not get my SOH.

Anyway, I haven't posted here on ISG in a long time. I have been in and out of lower SE Asia (Cambodia, Vietnam and others) for a while and am about to live full time in Saigon (or HCMC for you post war types). My experience here after RTFF (and I mean all the effing forum) is that the cafe route by day hit on the MILF route seems to work well. My technique is a bit slow but well proven. 1 Smile at her if you like her. Then ignore her 2. Come back the same time each day, rinse and repeat.

3. Wait until you think she is primed then pounce. I only go for the premium selections and live here so have plenty of time to waste and frankly enjoy the hunt as much as the ultimate kill.

Then again, I tend to agree with whoever wrote that the best sex and best prices I have had here (in nightclubs and bars) have been with the ladies who speak no English. I just say Hi, point to the door, show them a price on my cell phone and either leave with her or move onto the next (well not in APO but in just about any bar or semi-ho joint).

Thanks to everyone for all the reports. I now have 2 x 30+ MILFS on rotation and a twenty something who is on the marriage route semi-pro tour who costs a wee bit too much for my like in this cheap country, but as my brother says, A wet tip is better than a dry tip.

Once I am settled into a long term apt and have time I will write detailed name, rank and serial nos (plus pics) reports. I may buy a bar myself and set it up more like a large pool hall like they have in Casablanca (basically a cheap arms length brothel). We will see.

"Party on Wayne".

Belvaros
06-18-17, 11:56
Yep, 100% on the mark, and also my modus operandi. It works. Looking forward to your reports.I think they pick up on my "I don't give a rat's ass" attitude and find that more interesting. Dunno, but I do know since I stopped giving a hoot, women hit on me.

Of course YMMV.

I hope to hit Hanoi next week and will write reports.

Wander Luster
06-21-17, 07:05
Seems to be the trend around the world now when places become attractive to the richer and mainly monger set from the west. Some broad in Marrakesh last year quoted me 300 Euros ST in a country where I dare not pay over $100 for a day with a 100/100 type.

Anyway, I laugh at some of the women in APO to their faces when they quote prices and tell them in my worst Vietnamese that I wouldn't pay them that in New York. Some of them find it funny and some just do not get my SOH. Belvaros,

It's a useless place for p4 p now, but it's still a good pick-up bar if you're looking for a girlfriend. I don't know about this type of stupid "inflation" in other countries so much. I've been to a couple of the largest dance clubs in BKK recently, and nothing like this BS happens there. I'm 40 now, but no problem with that in BKK clubs. In VN where I know the culture and some language, like you I just LOL when these girls ask for $150 and are nothing special or $200 if they are cute.

VN is tough for P4 P if you don't live there. The message place can be great if you find what you like (I did, in District 3, wow) but we're used to FS! If you must do P4 P, go to Bui Vien. It's a bit hit or miss, but 10 X better than Apo. I was on Bui Vien 3 weeks ago and found a stunner who was eager and GF experience. Prices are same for most girls, but some will disappoint.

WanderLuster.

Belvaros
06-21-17, 10:14
Belvaros,


VN is tough for P4 P if you don't live there. The message place can be great if you find what you like (I did, in District 3, wow) but we're used to FS! If you must do P4 P, go to Bui Vien. It's a bit hit or miss, but 10 X better than Apo. I was on Bui Vien 3 weeks ago and found a stunner who was eager and GF experience. Prices are same for most girls, but some will disappoint.

WanderLuster.Yeah I hear you. I live here most of the time now (full time really from this week). I will try Bui Vien thanks.

I really don't mind spending a lot of time to learn the scene. I was in Morocco for months until the locals relented and took me to the best spot, and the semi-pro (expensive freebie GF route) is OK. In the end I found so many places myself they learned a thing or 3. I was supposed to go to Phnom Penh today but meh, so out later hunting for lasses it will be. I do enjoy the whole SE Asian vibe after being many years in USA, Europe, Africa etc. I must say the over 30+ Vietnamese women in Australia, Singapore etc seem much thinner than the locals on the whole in Saigon and Hanoi. Maybe I need to get out into the woods and check out the real locals scene.

As for APO I will keep going and just keep a low profile until a lass shows interest or not!

P.S. I am enjoying the food here.

BlueBaron
06-21-17, 18:13
Is the VIC bar still going? That seemed a good option when I went few years back. Hostess bar, all girls available for takeout. I would suppose inflation has struck there too. Remember it being near CMT8 street in district 3, before reaching Dien Bien Phu street.

Wander Luster
06-25-17, 05:24
Yeah I hear you. I live here most of the time now (full time really from this week). I will try Bui Vien thanks.

I really don't mind spending a lot of time to learn the scene. I was in Morocco for months until the locals relented and took me to the best spot, and the semi-pro (expensive freebie GF route) is OK. In the end I found so many places myself they learned a thing or 3. I was supposed to go to Phnom Penh today but meh, so out later hunting for lasses it will be. I do enjoy the whole SE Asian vibe after being many years in USA, Europe, Africa etc. I must say the over 30+ Vietnamese women in Australia, Singapore etc seem much thinner than the locals on the whole in Saigon and Hanoi. Maybe I need to get out into the woods and check out the real locals scene.

As for APO I will keep going and just keep a low profile until a lass shows interest or not!

P.S. I am enjoying the food here.Belvaros,

I think my experiences at Apo and nearby Hai be Trưng hostess bars are what made me so anti P4 P about HCMC. Just stay away from them. There are stunning women in HCMC willing to go with us hobbyists, but they just aren't "set up" to meet us Westerners. I'm blown away by the girls on the escort sites in terms of beauty / price. Anyone on here tried hiring a college kid or other as a "guide" to meedt them? I'm not clear why these women don't connect with Westerners and / or why there is no one with more of a "bridge" to them. Wendella is a wealth of knowledge about this, and he's told me to go for them even though my Vietnamese is horrible. I'm not shy at all and do very well with FL girls in clubs in Asia, for example, but texting with these girls in Vietnamese, well I'm shy about that.

As for Cambodia vs. Vietnam, they are crazy different to me. The hobby scene in PP Campbodia is awesome and reminds me in many ways more of BKIK. But, PP is city I don't love.

I will try to follow the "when in Rome" principal more. I think the message places can be a place to find 9's, but not expect FS.

I'll also probably head down to Indonesia for 1-2 months: the rainy season gets to be a drag. Jakarta has been very good to me long ago both for find GF (should have married someone I met there!) and for clubs and FS message places.

Belvaros
06-25-17, 08:35
I agree with everything you wrote. I have never tried this in Indonesia as I had girlfriends there and found that an easier route. I seem to have more fun in Muslim countries where the supposed laws make it hard but I find they love western men. I actually like PP probably because of the connection to the Deer Hunter and so forth.

I was looking at space during the week for my idea for a pool hall. Take out place and bar but seem to have run into the local mobsters already so may cool my heels on that one.

I ventured down some of the streets here to check out the massage scene but nothing eventuated. Off for some Sunday arvo drinks with one of the 35 yr old semi-pros. At least she is cheap.

Wander Luster
06-26-17, 06:09
I agree with everything you wrote. I have never tried this in Indonesia as I had girlfriends there and found that an easier route. I seem to have more fun in Muslim countries where the supposed laws make it hard but I find they love western men. I actually like PP probably because of the connection to the Deer Hunter and so forth.

I was looking at space during the week for my idea for a pool hall. Take out place and bar but seem to have run into the local mobsters already so may cool my heels on that one.

I ventured down some of the streets here to check out the massage scene but nothing eventuated. Off for some Sunday arvo drinks with one of the 35 yr old semi-pros. At least she is cheap.Yea, I've also found Muslim women like Westerners. I had a very modern GF for Turkey for 2 years. I think there is much to be said or Indonesia. PP is great if you have the time, as it is sooooo slow there. For me I work while doing the hobby.

HCMC is doing me good now. If one can adjust to the message P4 P and knows where to go, It's awesome.

KenDavis03
06-27-17, 07:17
HCMC is doing me good now. If one can adjust to the message P4 P and knows where to go, It's awesome.This seems like the best advice to me. I have never tried a HCMC massage place.

WorldTravele
08-01-17, 14:19
Could anyone tell me where is the Hai Yan massage in Saigon. I mean address of it.

BlueBaron
08-02-17, 08:18
Could anyone tell me where is the Hai Yan massage in Saigon. I mean address of it.It is LE Hong Phong street in district 10.

Other ones like that nearby there but now China is gone.

Wendella
08-02-17, 16:40
Could anyone tell me where is the Hai Yan massage in Saigon. I mean address of it.Hai Yen is 815 LHP.

James Dean 2
08-30-17, 09:57
Hi all -.
1) Is there a girl friendly hotel that is a nice Hilton / Intercontinental / Sheraton type hotel? Not those brands specifically, but a proper business hotel with all the amenities that is is also girl friendy? I 'hve mad mixed experiences with 3 star hotels in that city!4 stars and above are not GF. Caravelle does allow guests before 10 PM. I. e she has to leave by 10. They keep her ID when she comes in so can ensure she is out by 10. One place you can get lucky with is Hotel Des Arts Saigon. You can go to rooms from the rooftop bar as well and that is not monitored. Technically still not GF but manageable. The hotel is 4*+ star.

Flak3
09-09-17, 17:02
Tried the street girls near the Backpacker area and Apo. 700.000 to 1. 000.000 plus 200.000 if you need a short time room. There were some cute girls in both areas, but they were super cutthroat and down to business. Promises of one hour, good service, etc. , all lies. The girls will tell you everything is extra, they don't get much of the money, and ask you for tips. They'll also expect you to finish in 10 minutes. One girl was on the phone with her next customer while we were mid coitus. She told the guy she would be there in 10 minutes, 5 minutes into our session. Yes, some of the girls look amazing (20 years old, great tits, slim, etc.) but they're all ruthless.

Having been to Makati, Bangkok, and Pattaya in the last few weeks, HCMC was the worst and most difficult place to find girls. I would not recommend HCMC (VISA required, girls not allowed in hotels, English not really spoken, traffic, air pollution, hard to find girls, and worst service). HCMC definitely has some very beautiful girls, but I'd recommend a visit to Pattaya instead. The only thing easy about HCMC was getting a he or BJ, but both are high volume so be ready to be the 10th guy that girl has serviced. If you must have a hot Vietnamese girl, I suggest Singapore and the Geylang. Almost the same price, but way better service since the "papa" is right there to field any complaints.

Tra Zmo
09-09-17, 19:29
Get real.

These girls are only interested in one thing: money.

Fredrick SG
09-10-17, 09:42
Get real.

These girls are only interested in one thing: money.Tra Zmo is 100% correct. Their primary, secondary and tertiary interest is money. After that, they go to worship or pray for more money. If they get their hooks into you be ready to let go of all your money over a period of time. They are masters of both the short play and long play. If not switched on you will get eaten alive.

BaddHabbit
10-10-17, 13:17
I am headed to Vietnam for a monger vacation next week. Just a few days in HCMC this time round, and so have been going back and RTFF to get up to speed. I ran into links for a couple articles about prostitution in Vietnam in the 'Legal or Not' thread, and had a read. This article lead me to the all-time best agency name ever: http://www.thanhniennews.com/society/the-naked-truth-about-prostitution-in-vietnam-1883.html.

"Meanwhile, Nguyen Ngoc Thach, head of the anti-social evil agency under the HCMC labor department, was not optimistic about reducing the number of prostitutes in the city. "

I WANT to work for the anti-social evil agency! Hell, I'll even start in the mailroom.

SnowMan321
11-07-17, 15:22
I have an upcoming trip. I emailed central hotels, right on Bui Vien, asking what their guest policy was and I wish that I saved the response. It said something like most hotels allow Viet girls to visit rooms and they are no different. They said that if it was just me and a guest, there was no fee but there is a fee for a 3rd person. These hotels seem nice but are not necessarily in the business area of things. I'll report back I'd I have trouble.

Montani
11-22-17, 01:48
I have an upcoming trip. I emailed central hotels, right on Bui Vien, asking what their guest policy was and I wish that I saved the response. It said something like most hotels allow Viet girls to visit rooms and they are no different. They said that if it was just me and a guest, there was no fee but there is a fee for a 3rd person. These hotels seem nice but are not necessarily in the business area of things. I'll report back I'd I have trouble.I stayed in 3 different hotels near Bui Vien, the A25 which is a large commercial style hotel, and two smaller family run hotels, the Phuc Lin and Hotel Titi. All of them allowed guests to the room. A few times I had 2 girls at once without any issues. I would say that from my experience that most hotels near Bui Vien allow guests, especially for the single, male tourist. I did speak with one Viet owner of a small family style hotel that said he did not allow Viet girls but foreign girls were allowed. He catered mostly to the backpacker set with dorm style rooms. I don't like paying fees for guests, but if I have to pay a small fee, by my standards, then I have no problem if there is opportunity for a nice threesome.

Penguin69
11-22-17, 18:46
Hi fellas,

Just wondering what would be a good app to use while in Vietnam with good selection and if applicable a degree of reliability in operation and with contacts made.

I see many referred to but am unsure which main one to go with- I don't want to be juggling 4 or 5 apps for different women if possible. I imagine many of the women multipost anyway.

Cheers.

M.

Geneva Guy
11-23-17, 01:58
Hi fellas,

Just wondering what would be a good app to use while in Vietnam with good selection and if applicable a degree of reliability in operation and with contacts made.

I see many referred to but am unsure which main one to go with- I don't want to be juggling 4 or 5 apps for different women if possible. I imagine many of the women multipost anyway.

Cheers.

M.Use ZALO (many non-pros on that and you can use google translate to help) and WeChat. Download google translate, when you speak, keep your sentences short.

Ethanol
12-07-17, 16:13
Which clinic / hospital is recommended?

What can I expect to pay?

SmallBird
12-08-17, 06:53
Tried the street girls near the Backpacker area and Apo. 700.000 to 1. 000.000 plus 200.000 if you need a short time room. There were some cute girls in both areas, but they were super cutthroat and down to business. Promises of one hour, good service, etc. , all lies. The girls will tell you everything is extra, they don't get much of the money, and ask you for tips. They'll also expect you to finish in 10 minutes. One girl was on the phone with her next customer while we were mid coitus. She told the guy she would be there in 10 minutes, 5 minutes into our session. Yes, some of the girls look amazing (20 years old, great tits, slim, etc.) but they're all ruthless.

Having been to Makati, Bangkok, and Pattaya in the last few weeks, HCMC was the worst and most difficult place to find girls. I would not recommend HCMC (VISA required, girls not allowed in hotels, English not really spoken, traffic, air pollution, hard to find girls, and worst service). HCMC definitely has some very beautiful girls, but I'd recommend a visit to Pattaya instead. The only thing easy about HCMC was getting a he or BJ, but both are high volume so be ready to be the 10th guy that girl has serviced. If you must have a hot Vietnamese girl, I suggest Singapore and the Geylang. Almost the same price, but way better service since the "papa" is right there to field any complaints.Not to mention the service, the price is already a rip off.

Well, a rip off for foreigner as always.

Local pays 300 k-500 k most of the time.

Irish Mongrel
12-08-17, 12:21
Hi fellas,

Just wondering what would be a good app to use while in Vietnam with good selection and if applicable a degree of reliability in operation and with contacts made.

I see many referred to but am unsure which main one to go with- I don't want to be juggling 4 or 5 apps for different women if possible. I imagine many of the women multipost anyway.

Cheers.

M.I had WeChat loaded on my phone during one of my last visits, lots of contacts and finally relented and it was the perfect bait and switch. Person I chatted to spoke good english, person that arrived was not the same girl and couldn't speak a word of English. That encounter soon ended. Sort of soured my view of WeChat in Vietnam. Have a read of the finding girls online thread to gain some knowledge on the topic.

CaliTexMex
12-09-17, 11:51
Went around the known massage parlor named Hoang Ha on LE Hong Phong late at night, around 2 AM. I knew it would be slim pickings and would probably get fucked on price but was looking for the scene in the name of science.

The hotel pimp was excited to see a foreigner walking alone into his hotel. He knew what I was there for and assured me he could get a girl for 1500000 VND. I told him I'd give him 1000000 VND if the girl was a true stunner. He had several girls delivered, all of which were subpar even for half the quoted price. He eventually got frustrated and drove me to some sort of epicenter of late-night moto prostitutes. It was on the way to District 1. Some small cafe which had girls waiting to either get approached, or rather, picked up by moto pimps to take around town.

None of the girls looked too interested. A few looked very good and teenage. They had absolutely no interest in going with me for anything less than 1500000 VND. Finally one of them cracked and showed some interest in 800000 VND. She was probably early 30's, never had kids, and had a decent smile. I thought she was at least into it. When asked she said her name is Cam.

I chose her and we went off on another two motobikes to a really shitty short-time hotel in District 1. A few of the local guys guided me through a deep alley into this place. Not the safest option but did not get any negative vibes from them. The aircon did not work at all and had roaches in it. No elevator either. A true shithole.

I unfortunately had to pay upfront the whole sum to the pimp who was excited beyond belief. This girl is probably lucky to get 300000 VND from local guys. Her attitude soured quickly after the door was shut.

She turned into this pissed off, demanding ***** who made it clear she was there to get me off as fast as possible with as little human emotion as possible. I tried to get her to enjoy it a bit, but she was having none of it.

She would only stroke me. Would not even let me touch her tits. What a dumb *****. To make matters worse, I had some strong precum as I had not fucked that day which she said was proof I had "finished. " We had a long argument about this in which I had to get a bit ugly with her to make her understand she will do the job she was overpaid to do or there would be long-lasting consequences for her. She could only say how bad of a man I was for taking advantage of her. I explained to her she did not want to see me turn into this mythical bad man and how much shit I had put up with from her to this point. Fortunately I have only had this happen a few times in my life and every time I was able to either get my money back or finally have the girl relent and let me hit it for a few minutes to fulfill her end of the deal.

She chose the latter. She reluctantly let me fuck her missionary for a few minutes with a look of disdain in her face. After, she demanded a tip! The fucking *****! Told her to get lost. She once again called me a bad man before heading out. I paid the 80000 VND for the room. To my surprise the backpacker district was within walking distance.

I would never take her or that group of girls again. I have the location saved if any people have any sort of morbid curiosity about that scene.

Some of the girls were young and most were hot but had the biggest ***** faces I had seen on working girls. Truly robotic service similar to how some window girls in Amsterdam perform.

Seems this is what Vietnam is known for.

LukeSkywalker
12-09-17, 22:23
Would be nice to know street addresses, coordinates or just general areas of these small cafes so we can avoid bad times with these rough street hos:

Re. CaliTexMex.

Drove me to some sort of epicenter of late-night moto prostitutes. It was on the way to District 1. Some small cafe which had girls waiting to either get approached, or rather, picked up by moto pimps to take around town.

I would never take her or that group of girls again. I have the location saved if any people have any sort of morbid curiosity about that scene.

Montani
12-09-17, 23:56
Tried the street girls near the Backpacker area and Apo. 700.000 to 1. 000.000 plus 200.000 if you need a short time room. There were some cute girls in both areas, but they were super cutthroat and down to business. Promises of one hour, good service, etc. , all lies. The girls will tell you everything is extra, they don't get much of the money, and ask you for tips. They'll also expect you to finish in 10 minutes. One girl was on the phone with her next customer while we were mid coitus. She told the guy she would be there in 10 minutes, 5 minutes into our session. Yes, some of the girls look amazing (20 years old, great tits, slim, etc.) but they're all ruthless.

Having been to Makati, Bangkok, and Pattaya in the last few weeks, HCMC was the worst and most difficult place to find girls. I would not recommend HCMC (VISA required, girls not allowed in hotels, English not really spoken, traffic, air pollution, hard to find girls, and worst service). HCMC definitely has some very beautiful girls, but I'd recommend a visit to Pattaya instead. The only thing easy about HCMC was getting a he or BJ, but both are high volume so be ready to be the 10th guy that girl has serviced. If you must have a hot Vietnamese girl, I suggest Singapore and the Geylang. Almost the same price, but way better service since the "papa" is right there to field any complaints.I agree, HCMC is subpar for finding full service, especially compared to Pattaya. I did enjoy my visit, but I had 5 weeks to split between Thailand and Vietnam. The Backpacker / Bui Vien Street tourist area is interesting, but full service is tougher to find. If I had only a week or two, I would not waste my time in Vietnam unless I had lots of contacts and experience there. Plus there is the Visa issue, as mentioned. If your goal is to have a lot of full service with a lot of different girls, then do not waste your limited vacation time there on a first visit. A lot of the girls will flat out not go back to the hotel with you. In salon service only.

BlueBaron
12-13-17, 03:54
Went around the known massage parlor named Hoang Ha on LE Hong Phong late at night, around 2 AM. I don't know this place. Is it near Hai Yen? LHP is a long street. There's some massage places near Hai Yen, I think.


I would never take her or that group of girls again. I have the location saved if any people have any sort of morbid curiosity about that scene.I will like to have a look at this place, can you send the location in PM?

Many thanks to you, sir.

Jimmy Di
12-15-17, 21:22
My GF and I will be traveling for the first time to Ho Chi Minh City and will be looking for some threesome activity with some lovely ladies. We've enjoyed them in Angeles City, Pattaya, Phuket, Cambodia, Panama, Colombia, etc.

From reading the forums, it looks like massage parlors are the main place for hooking up with ladies. Unfortunately, that doesn't work well for a couple (as opposed to go go bars and strip clubs). Does anyone have any suggestions on alternative ways? Thanks much.

AmericanThief
12-16-17, 06:30
My GF and I will be traveling for the first time to Ho Chi Minh City and will be looking for some threesome activity with some lovely ladies. We've enjoyed them in Angeles City, Pattaya, Phuket, Cambodia, Panama, Colombia, etc.

From reading the forums, it looks like massage parlors are the main place for hooking up with ladies. Unfortunately, that doesn't work well for a couple (as opposed to go go bars and strip clubs). Does anyone have any suggestions on alternative ways? Thanks much.99% Sure this is not going to happen. I've seen posts like this before on the expat facebook page. I don't understand why people assume that Vietnam is like Phil or Thailand when it comes to threesomes. Sure there's a lot of p4 p in southern Vietnam, but it's completely different from Thai and Phil, and more for locals. But you still have 1% chance.

Your best bet is to try bar girls not the hostess type either. Buy one girl a drink and be polite and ask her if any of the girls in the bar might be bisexual or interested in a threesome. There's a "crazy girl" named MyMy that might do it.

Secondly, you could try the KTVs. Ask the manager if any girls are bi- take her to the room, do the drinks and singing one time and then negotiate. Try Jumbo, they have the most girls and then there are 5 others on that street.

AmericanThief
12-16-17, 06:36
Which clinic / hospital is recommended?

What can I expect to pay?Columbia Asia clinic.

Victoria Clinic.

FV Hospital.

1,000,000 up to 2. 500.000.

Email or call them, they all speak English and get a quote.

AmericanThief
12-16-17, 06:42
Hi fellas,

Just wondering what would be a good app to use while in Vietnam with good selection and if applicable a degree of reliability in operation and with contacts made.

I see many referred to but am unsure which main one to go with- I don't want to be juggling 4 or 5 apps for different women if possible. I imagine many of the women multipost anyway.

Cheers.

M.Slim chance of hooking up with a cute local if you're on holiday unless you're very young, handsome and willing to throw money around at the BBQ and high end Bars and Lounges.

You'll see what I mean if you're over 30 with the extensive interview process, the girl leading you on to practice English or just I don't know what.

There are very few freelancers that speak English enough to be on their own. Wechat or Tinder. Pick one and go for it.

JamessPlats
12-17-17, 15:17
Is it easy to find LT in Ho Chi Minh? Where? How? I can't seem to find any talk about it on the forum or anywhere else for that matter. Would like to find someone to show me around for 2 or 3 days.

CaliTexMex
12-20-17, 15:40
I don't know this place. Is it near Hai Yen? LHP is a long street. There's some massage places near Hai Yen, I think.

I will like to have a look at this place, can you send the location in PM?

Many thanks to you, sir.It is not near Hai Yen. It's near a set of big temples. The location is full of short time hotels the online girls use.

BlueBaron
12-20-17, 18:00
He eventually got frustrated and drove me to some sort of epicenter of late-night moto prostitutes. It was on the way to District 1. Some small cafe which had girls waiting to either get approached, or rather, picked up by moto pimps to take around town.

None of the girls looked too interested. A few looked very good and teenage. They had absolutely no interest in going with me for anything less than 1500000 VND. Finally one of them cracked and showed some interest in 800000 VND. She was probably early 30's, never had kids, and had a decent smile. I thought she was at least into it. When asked she said her name is Cam.


I would never take her or that group of girls again. I have the location saved if any people have any sort of morbid curiosity about that scene..Thanks for the reply. But actually this cafe and epi-center of late night moto prostitutes, that is what I was most curious about. You said you could PM the location. I would really appreciate it if you could. Thanks!

AmericanThief
12-21-17, 07:32
Is it easy to find LT in Ho Chi Minh? Where? How? I can't seem to find any talk about it on the forum or anywhere else for that matter. Would like to find someone to show me around for 2 or 3 days.This was possible 15-20 years ago, but really the girls today are more difficult however 5,000,000 should buy you one day. I would avoid websites as that will get you nowhere. Try the girly bars. An older girl might agree to this but don't expect to find a cute 21 year old will to serve you for 3 days.

CallSign Papa
01-21-18, 04:48
What a cool city. Arrived with a few buddies for a long weekend and had an absolute blast. Vietnamese girls are seriously hot, and from what I can tell, pretty liberated (when in private). Here's what else I learned:

1) Stay in District 1. We stayed in Banh Minh which is about a 15 minute taxi ride. That doesn't sound a lot and taxis are cheap but given we spent 90% of our time in D1 we could have avoided a lot of unnecessary journeys. D1 is where all the bars and restaurants are.

2) WeChat is your friend. Just turn on your location services and you'll have messages coming in on a pretty regular basis. WeChat is full of "massage providers" (and I banged both of those I met), and there are some really cute ones.

3) Walking street (Bui Vien) is loud and crazy on weekends, a perfect place to hang out. On the Friday night, we were sat outside a bar just watching the pretty girls walk by (and there were plenty), some will give you the eye and when one smiled at me I headed over to introduce myself and got her number. Later that evening she arranged for her flatmate to take a wander and I headed over to her place where we got right down to it. I paid 1. 5 M Dong ($75) but was only in her apartment less than 45 minutes so YMMV.

4) There are a number of short term hotels perfect if you meet a girl but don't have the option of going to your own hotel. On Sunday night we were sat in a fairly busy bar on Ong Du (near the Opera House,) and I got the scoop from the girl who tended bar there. She had a few friends who were happy to come over on a paid basis, so after checking them out on IG I selected one and when she ended up not being free, selected another who was in the bar less than an hour later. I gave the bar maid 500 k tip (but that was because she introduced me to a number of other girls for future trips, one of whom is world class). Her friend ROSE arrived, mid 20's, petite and dark (just how I like them) and we had a few drinks and got to know each other and then walked a very short distance to a short term hotel. It cost nothing, can't even remember, maybe $30 maybe less. Rose took 2 M was well worth every penny given there was access to all holes and she ended with an enthusiastic CIM.

You can also find a guy and a girl on the corner of Ong Du / Ng Khoi who will ask you if you want girls, and have an apartment nearby. Didn't try but they seemed to offer a number of options.

5) Plenty of standard massage places throughout D1, didn't go in, but the ones I walked past undoubtedly offered more than a massage.

Can't wait to go back.

CallSign Papa
01-21-18, 05:55
1) Stay in District 1. We stayed in Banh Minh which is about a 15 minute taxi ride.That should have read Bin Thanh.

MonkeyPaw
01-24-18, 08:15
First night in HCM and I stopped by Dainam hotel off Yersin. I used to be a regular here until I met a girl that worked here and started seeing her regularly outside of her work. We've moved on since then and now she she as a new boyfriend. Anyways, I always follow the same routine when I go. I pay for the VIP room at 750,000 and tip the male attendant 100,000 to get the girl I want. I also tell him that if he gives me some random chick and didn't listen to my needs, I will keep sending the girls back one one and he will have to keep doing this until he gets it right. Money talks.

So for today, I told him to screen for a girl bellow 25, long straight black hair, thin with bigger boobs, and no more than 48 kilos. And no flat asses. Also I wanted him to make sure she is pretty by Vietnamese standards. So on first try, So Hai arrives and was exactly what I was looking for. Also an extra perk was her teeth was straight. After I okayed her, she left and brought back some fruit. By then I was already naked before she even started the bath. By the way, the VIP rooms are superb. I opted for the mud bath before the jacuzzi. She gave my body a dirty mud scrub first. Once in the jacuzzi, I do a little trick that I like to pull. I splash all the girls with water, just a bit. Then I ask them to take off their uniform and join me. About 50% in the past have said "no!" from the start. The rest I would hand my first 500,000 and another 100,000. I tell So Hai in Vietnamese (which I can speak about 60% proficient) that this is this first on many tips. The extra 100,000 is to go back and give your look out attendant to watch the door. Most girls have there own specific male look out attendants FYI.

She left the room and 3 minutes came back with grin and a chopsticks to tie her hair. She proceeded to undress and jumped into the tub. We scrubbed each other down and I was able to feel her insides with my fingers. Within minutes she came and ask me how many times I can cum. I said twice in an hour is fine. So I asked her for a blow job in the tub and had a 2 500,000 notes waiting for her. I was only able to last about 20 minutes with her mouth. So on to the massage, which was pleasant, but nothing to write home about. Dainam is know for it's pretty girls, not their massage skills. During the massage we had some small chit chat and I kept building my rapport with her. Told her I wanted to open a beauty spa in HCM with my American doctor buddy. He's Vietnamese. Should of seen the greed in her eyes as made up that crap.

So finally towards the end of the massage, she asked me how would I like to finish again. I told her with a BJ, we would be here for 3-4 hours, because it's my second load. I said a HJ is okay and that I would give her another 500,000. But I wanted her phone number and see her after work. She said it was fine and gave me her digits. Total damage at Dainam was 2 million for the girl and 750 K for the room, 200,000 for the attendant and a wink plus smile to the female cashier.

That night after a quick chit chat exchange of expected fees. So Hai came to my room. By the way, if you get a chance. Stay at Chill Box on 212 Nguyen Trai. It both a hostel and hotel. The hotel side (a different building) you will have your own set of keys to the outer gate and to your room (1 room per floor). There is no security, reception, or anybody to stop you from bringing girls back. You can have a full blown orgy in your room late at night, and nobody will know. Rooms are only about $25 a night and decent size. For the next few hours she provided full service with BBBJ and allowed me to CIM. She left around 2 am. Total cost was 4 million and a broken promise to return tomorrow and select her again for another massage.

MonkeyPaw
01-25-18, 06:54
So near Bui Vien area on Cong Quynh Street there is a nightclub called DC Club. Last night went there to check out the scene. It's been awhile since I've gone there. I asked one of the managers named, Mr. Teo, to call up the hostesses' mamasan. She came to my table and asked me, what type of girl what would I prefer? If you haven't gone, there are about 20-30 sexy girls every night that work at DC as hostesses. I told her one who likes to party, slim with big boobs, nice, round but not big ass, and pretty face. So she brings over this girl named "Me" not sure of the spelling. I was happy with her selection, besides her short hair, so I tipped mamasan 200 K. Me had a nice set of silicone boobs which I was able grope on all night.

After about a couple of hours, I was feeling real frisky and asked Me to bounce with me to my room. She said she would go but I have to tip her for her sitting and letting me grope her underneath her dress. I gave her a 500,000 tip. She also said it would be about 3,000,000 for 2 hours back in my room. I was okay with that. She seemed pretty and eager to get it on. She left for a second while I was paying my bill with waitstaff and came back in different clothes. She brought back mamasan, and I gave the mamasan an additional 200 K for letting Me take me home "because I was drunk. " Or at least that's what I was told to give the mamasan. Outside the security asked if we are going to the hotel room nearby. I guess it's like a short time hotel, but I said no. And that we were going to my own room about 2 minutes walking. He advised us to take a taxi anyways. So we did.

Back in the room, we took a bath together while she gave me a BBBJ, sloppy style, like the Vietnamese street food. I couldn't finish because I was tipsy. We moved to the bed, where she was a wild cat. By then, the alcohol made me drunk and I was in and out. At times I wasn't sure I even had a condom or not. I do remember finally cumming but she was on top, reverse cowgirl. Lord knows how long she was doing that for. After the clean up, I paid her and went straight to sleep. She babbled something on the way out but I was ready to just say my prayers and crash out. All in all it was a good experience minus the alcohol next time. I would choose her again next time I go to DC. Monkeypaw thumbs up!

NguyetLang
01-25-18, 20:58
After about a couple of hours, I was feeling real frisky and asked Me to bounce with me to my room. She said she would go but I have to tip her for her sitting and letting me grope her underneath her dress. I gave her a 500,000 tip. She also said it would be about 3,000,000 for 2 hours back in my room. I was okay with that. She seemed pretty and eager to get it on. She left for a second while I was paying my bill with waitstaff and came back in different clothes. She brought back mamasan, and I gave the mamasan an additional 200 K for letting Me take me home "because I was drunk. " Or at least that's what I was told to give the mamasan. Outside the security asked if we are going to the hotel room nearby. I guess it's like a short time hotel, but I said no. And that we were going to my own room about 2 minutes walking. He advised us to take a taxi anyways. So we did.

Haha. Similar experience here. I was also drunk when I agreed to pay 3 Mil. Not any more. I was re-calibrated later that you should hold your line at 1 to 1. 5 Mil for ST. The 2-3 Mil range is usually for over night.

Cheers,

MonkeyPaw
01-27-18, 14:39
For my third night in HCM, I opted for a more relax scene instead of loud pumping music at a club. My usual "bia om" place, DMax off Ton That Tung, was fully booked so I decided to stop by a karaoke instead. For those who don't know "bia om" are usually small rooms that serve food and have girls as well. At DMax, the girls will want around 3-4 million to get naked and fuck your brains out inside the rooms.

With DMax being full, I opted to grab a quick bite on Bui Vien and headed to Milan Karaoke off Pham Ngu Lao. It was around midnight, but Milan still had empty rooms. Rooms usually cost about 200 K-300 K per hour, depending on how nice or VIP the room is. Here is a hint, the staff will try to push certain girls to you, because they have their favorites that gives them a cut. Demand to see all the girls. Usually they just sit and chill in a room until called by customers. I specifically asked to see all the girls, but staff tried to get stupid with me and told me mamasan was off today. That means she couldn't bring me in to see all the girls. I had to deal with the ones they brought.

I said fuck that! Give me her phone number. I called and texted her. She was actually in another room entertaining some Westerners, who were there for the first time. She sent me a photo of the girls available. Looking at the photo, I ended up picking a girl named Tu. She is the one farthest to the right. 15 minutes, later Tu joined me in my room. We sat and she sang a few songs in broken English. Seems like every Asian girl knows the words to Celine Dion "My Heart Will Go On."

Her singing kind of made me horny, so I told her that I wanted to fuck her in the room. She asked me if I brought a condom. When I told her I had one, she said it will be 1.3 million. I agreed and she went to the bathroom to freshen up. She came back with some baby wipes and asked me for and extra 200 K for the staff to watch the door to make sure nobody enters. After she left with the 200 K, I quickly undressed and clean my self with the wipes. She came back in and stripped naked and started with a BBBJ. Her body was firm, no fat, with full CC for boobs. I pulled her on to the sofa and got her in a 69 position to DATY. She came within minutes. Her pussy was soaked and I was afraid to stain the sofa. So we started off in doggy, to cowgirl, to missionary, and finished with her standing bending over against the wall. The whole time various music was playing on the karaoke.

When I came, I remember that "You're My Heart, You'rue My Soul" by Modern Talking was playing and the room was lit up in blue lighting. They have a bathroom inside, so we cleaned ourselves up. She then gave me her WeChat, so I can see her outside of Milan. By the way, she looks as cute as her WeChat profile pic attached. I think she mentioned that most of the girls that work there essentially are from the massage parlors nearby. I just didn't pay attention when she told me which one she worked at. After she left, I paid my room bill about 400 K including some water and a beers we drank. Glad I didn't go that night and have to pay 3 million for a girl at DMax. Luckily Tu was pretty sexy and was a good experience.

BlueBaron
01-28-18, 10:12
For my third night in HCM, I opted for a more relax scene instead of loud pumping music at a club. My usual "bia om" place, DMax off Ton That Tung, was fully booked so I decided to stop by a karaoke instead. For those who don't know "bia om" are usually small rooms that serve food and have girls as well. At DMax, the girls will want around 3-4 million to get naked and fuck your brains out inside the rooms.

With DMax being full, I opted to grab a quick bite on Bui Vien and headed to Milan Karaoke off Pham Ngu Lao. It was around midnight, but Milan still had empty rooms. Rooms usually cost about 200 K-300 K per hour, depending on how nice or VIP the room is. Here is a hint, the staff will try to push certain girls to you, because they have their favorites that gives them a cut. Demand to see all the girls. Usually they just sit and chill in a room until called by customers. I specifically asked to see all the girls, but staff tried to get stupid with me and told me mamasan was off today. That means she couldn't bring me in to see all the girls. I had to deal with the ones they brought.

I said fuck that! Give me her phone number. I called and texted her. She was actually in another room entertaining some Westerners, who were there for the first time. She sent me a photo of the girls available. Looking at the photo, I ended up picking a girl named Tu. She is the one farthest to the right. 15 minutes, later Tu joined me in my room. We sat and she sang a few songs in broken English. Seems like every Asian girl knows the words to Celine Dion "My Heart Will Go On.".Great report. I thought I saw DMax that was ON Ton That Tung, not OFF it. Near corner of Bui Thi Xuan, that one? So I suppose that means Milan is ON PNL street?

When you said Tu is the girl on the right, did you mean in the group photo, so she's last one on right side? And the photo of just one girl is her, yes?

So were there other things you had to pay for that you didn't mention? Seems like 1.3 m to Tu, and 400 for room, and anything else?

Stimulus89
01-30-18, 07:52
Great report. I thought I saw DMax that was ON Ton That Tung, not OFF it. Near corner of Bui Thi Xuan, that one? So I suppose that means Milan is ON PNL street?

When you said Tu is the girl on the right, did you mean in the group photo, so she's last one on right side? And the photo of just one girl is her, yes?

So were there other things you had to pay for that you didn't mention? Seems like 1.3 m to Tu, and 400 for room, and anything else?I can't speak for MonkeyPaw, but I think the answer to all of your questions is yes.

(We can leave it to him to confirm.) But I myself have noticed DMax there, and with the frosted glass doors it has always intrigued me. Yet being a Westerner with so-so language skills.

I wanted to gather some more intel first before trying it myself. So here are my questions for MonkeyPaw, or anyone else who's been there:

-When I hear the 'bia om' name, I think of cheapie places with no A/C in the 'burbs. 200 k for a HJ in the corner by an average looking 30 something. This is the first time I've ever heard 'bia om' and '3-4 million'.

Used in the same report! And as the place was packed, these girls must be hot. Really? So, how does this place operate exactly?

Stimulus89
01-30-18, 08:01
So near Bui Vien area on Cong Quynh Street there is a nightclub called DC Club. Last night went there to check out the scene. It's been awhile since I've gone there. I asked one of the managers named, Mr. Teo, to call up the hostesses' mamasan. She came to my table and asked me, what type of girl what would I prefer? If you haven't gone, there are about 20-30 sexy girls every night that work at DC as hostesses. I told her one who likes to party, slim with big boobs, nice, round but not big ass, and pretty face. So she brings over this girl named "Me" not sure of the spelling. I was happy with her selection, besides her short hair, so I tipped mamasan 200 K. Me had a nice set of silicone boobs which I was able grope on all night.I want to party with you Cowboy! This sounds like the kinda place that I have always wanted to get invited to, but never had a pervy enough local friend to mention it LOL.

I suppose you need to order a bottle in order to get the attention of the Mama? Especially as a foreigner, I imagine. I've been to these thumping places before and end up feeling really Beta and sheepish if I'm alone and not bursting with cash.

TheLastPanda
03-02-18, 12:51
Will be in HCMC March 3rd to March 9th. Anyone want to meet?

SteelBaton
03-22-18, 07:21
So Monkey Paws report sounded awesome. I figured I would try the same. The first part was fine, tthe took the 100 k tip and brought back a good girl. The rest never happened. I tried 4 girls with the “take 500 and jump in the tub naked with me offer”. Everyone of the looked at me like, I was crazy and said NO, I can't shower with you and pointed at the half clear glass door. So, I asked for another girl and trued again. Finally the male attendant came and said. “No, the girls can't take off all their clothes. I work here 5 years it is impossible” I tried to tip him for a 5th girl which he brought. #67. Lovely body, excellent massage, great HJ, but absolutely no naked girl and no BBBJ. Not sure how Monkey Paw pulled this off, but I don't think you can expect it to happen most times.


First night in HCM and I stopped by Dainam hotel off Yersin. I used to be a regular here until I met a girl that worked here and started seeing her regularly outside of her work. We've moved on since then and now she she as a new boyfriend. Anyways, I always follow the same routine when I go. I pay for the VIP room at 750,000 and tip the male attendant 100,000 to get the girl I want. I also tell him that if he gives me some random chick and didn't listen to my needs,

So for today, I told him to screen for a girl bellow 25, long straight black hair, thin with bigger boobs, and no more than 48 kilos. And no flat asses. Also I wanted him to make sure she is pretty by Vietnamese standards. So on first try, So Hai arrives and was exactly what I was looking for.

Once in the jacuzzi, I do a little trick that I like to pull. I splash all the girls with water, just a bit. Then I ask them to take off their uniform and join me. About 50% in the past have said "no!" from the start. The rest I would hand my first 500,000 and another 100,000. I tell So Hai in Vietnamese (which I can speak about 60% proficient) that this is this first on many tips. The extra 100,000 is to go back and give your look out attendant to watch the door. Most girls have there own specific male look out attendants FYI.



was 4 million and a broken promise to return tomorrow and select her again for another massage.

CorpBen
04-04-18, 18:59
Heading to HCMC in a few days and was wondering where valuables are put when you get undressed for massages and if you have peace of mind all your possessions will be there when done.

NguyetLang
05-06-18, 08:21
I stayed in a hotel on LE Thanh Ton street near Ben Thanh market last week to meet with my LTR. On my late night walking back to hotel I was asked by a middle age lady if I want massage. Out of curiosity I started the conversation. She told me a girl can be sent to my hotel room for 1 M with FS. If I don't like the girl, I can send her back or ask for an exchange. If not for my LTR I would have tried her service. I had to save my strength for my LTR (meet during day time only and must return to her family at night).

If anyone had used the lady service, please give a report. I ran into her near intersection of LE Thanh Ton and Truong Dinh, 1 block from Ben Thanh market. She also said she can send girl to just about any hotel near Ben Thanh market.

Cheers,

Member #4591
05-06-18, 08:37
So Monkey Paws report sounded awesome. I figured I would try the same. The first part was fine, tthe took the 100 k tip and brought back a good girl. The rest never happened. I tried 4 girls with the take 500 and jump in the tub naked with me offer. Everyone of the looked at me like, I was crazy and said NO, I can't shower with you and pointed at the half clear glass door. So, I asked for another girl and trued again. Finally the male attendant came and said. No, the girls can't take off all their clothes. I work here 5 years it is impossible I tried to tip him for a 5th girl which he brought. #67. Lovely body, excellent massage, great HJ, but absolutely no naked girl and no BBBJ. Not sure how Monkey Paw pulled this off, but I don't think you can expect it to happen most times.My experience with Monkeypaw's intel was the same as you. He posted about a bar in Bangkok where he found a really hot girl. After arriving at the bar, I was told no girls will ever be there or were ever there. The place was full of old men drinking cheap beer. That's good another member is calling him out on his fiction.

AddisonVo
05-08-18, 10:51
Heading to HCMC in a few days and was wondering where valuables are put when you get undressed for massages and if you have peace of mind all your possessions will be there when done.All the massage places I usually frequent (dai nam and vien dong) will hand you a plastic baggie to store valuables. You carry that around with you and just leave clothes in lockers. Only time someone would have access to it is if it's your massage girl while you are face down. Highly unlikely as she knows you could pop your head up at any time. They only leave a few times to grab a hot bag or you to wash your cum off their hands haha.

AddisonVo
05-08-18, 11:03
This is the one area where I can't seem to find some organized info on. KTV's with girls for take out.

Usually if the name actually says Karaoke then it's a legit Karaoke place. For example Dmax says restaurant, which is in line with two other KTV take out places I've been to where they are labeled as "nha hang".

Can anyone possibly provide a list of at least 2-3 places with consistently hot girls? I'll definitely give Dmax a try at some point.

Thanks.

AddisonVo
05-08-18, 11:07
Also, I'm in HCM for the long-term if anyone comes into town and would like to meet up for some mischief. I don't particularly like hitting the clubs and getting wasted. My body doesn't seem to handle it well anymore. I'll still go out of curiosity of finding ladies.

I'm fairly in-tune with most options in terms of massage places (HJ & BJ places), wechat girls, online dating, other short time options, bui vien options, little tokyo options.

I'm American born Viet and in my late 30's.

Cheers.

KokoLoko123
05-08-18, 21:41
Hey man,

I will be in Vietnam later this month. I am down to be your wingman. Honestly, not too crazy about the KTV scenes unless they are affordable 2-3 Mil total. But open to all other stuff.


Also, I'm in HCM for the long-term if anyone comes into town and would like to meet up for some mischief. I don't particularly like hitting the clubs and getting wasted. My body doesn't seem to handle it well anymore. I'll still go out of curiosity of finding ladies.

I'm fairly in-tune with most options in terms of massage places (HJ & BJ places), wechat girls, online dating, other short time options, bui vien options, little tokyo options.

I'm American born Viet and in my late 30's.

Cheers.

Member #4566
05-09-18, 00:43
Also, I'm in HCM for the long-term if anyone comes into town and would like to meet up for some mischief. I don't particularly like hitting the clubs and getting wasted. My body doesn't seem to handle it well anymore. I'll still go out of curiosity of finding ladies.

I'm fairly in-tune with most options in terms of massage places (HJ & BJ places), wechat girls, online dating, other short time options, bui vien options, little tokyo options.

I'm American born Viet and in my late 30's.

Cheers.Hello Addison:

You do not have the messaging feature. It won't be possible for you to make arrangements until you do. You seem like a good guy to hookup with. I think that if you post a number of informative field reports you attain so-called senior status. Or you can purchase a membership. Send me a message when you get it figured out.

AddisonVo
05-09-18, 08:18
Hello Addison:

You do not have the messaging feature. It won't be possible for you to make arrangements until you do. You seem like a good guy to hookup with. I think that if you post a number of informative field reports you attain so-called senior status. Or you can purchase a membership. Send me a message when you get it figured out.Ah, okay. I've been just lurking so long on and off I forgot about the rules. I'll figure it out thanks.

Have plenty of experiences to share.

TakingChances
05-10-18, 00:29
Gentlemen,

I just bought a business class air ticket to Ho Chi Minh from the US for $2,623 wit Air China for June! These are flat bed seats to Beijing and then business reclined to Vietnam. I have never heard of these prices before in my life. Last time I went to Hong Kong for work the tickets were close to $10 k. I can hardly wait for my trip. I have RTFF and there is so much great info.

Thanks.

UpAllHours
05-10-18, 18:29
Also, I'm in HCM for the long-term if anyone comes into town and would like to meet up for some mischief. I don't particularly like hitting the clubs and getting wasted. My body doesn't seem to handle it well anymore. I'll still go out of curiosity of finding ladies.

I'm fairly in-tune with most options in terms of massage places (HJ & BJ places), wechat girls, online dating, other short time options, bui vien options, little tokyo options.

I'm American born Viet and in my late 30's.

Cheers.Hey Addison,

I'll be in town for a little while. If you want to catch a beer and hit a couple of bars name a place and I'll join you. Same goes for anyone else interested in tackling this beast together.

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Greetings,

Here's how to contact other forum members.

1. Buy a subscription.

2. Send them a Private Message.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Subscriptions

Thanks,

Jackson

AddisonVo
05-11-18, 21:08
Hey Addison,

I'll be in town for a little while. If you want to catch a beer and hit a couple of bars name a place and I'll join you. Same goes for anyone else interested in tackling this beast together.How long is a little while?

Bars to pick up civies or P4P?

It's tough living here long-term trying to juggle work and play. Options are overwhelming.

BlueBaron
05-12-18, 10:22
Ah, okay. I've been just lurking so long on and off I forgot about the rules. I'll figure it out thanks.

Have plenty of experiences to share.To qualify for free private messages here (senior member status) you need to make about 25 reports and wait a number of months before it would be turned on. For you, better to just pay the annual fee ($20?) to immediately have your private message ability turned on.

Believe me, you'll get plenty of info that way which you will not receive in the forum. I promise. Seniors will tell you about the best places in private only.

MutantChicken
05-13-18, 09:59
This is the one area where I can't seem to find some organized info on. KTV's with girls for take out.

Usually if the name actually says Karaoke then it's a legit Karaoke place. For example Dmax says restaurant, which is in line with two other KTV take out places I've been to where they are labeled as "nha hang".

Can anyone possibly provide a list of at least 2-3 places with consistently hot girls? I'll definitely give Dmax a try at some point.

Thanks.
Hey man,

I will be in Vietnam later this month. I am down to be your wingman. Honestly, not too crazy about the KTV scenes unless they are affordable 2-3 Mil total. But open to all other stuff.Dmax recently raided and closed looks like KTV are now the target of cong an so ID doubt much sexy time will occur on premises, take out more the way to go but you looking at 1 m / shot for a avg looking gal 2-3 for overnight and for pretty ones 2-3 m ST etc, beers are about 40 k so definitely if you can control the girls whilst keeping things fun you total bill should be 2-3 mill (that's has been always been my experience in the 10 x + I have been) and def 2-3 m each even if you are big drinkers.

Bleble
05-16-18, 14:31
There are so many Hi and BJ massage parlors in hcmc. There is a website in vnmese that provides reports on these venues.

For online options, you have kynu.net and danchoi.xxx. But they are in vnmese. Avoid wechat because they are all bait and switch. You also have cafe om (hug coffee shops) or bia om (hug bars where you drink and hug beautiful ladies at the same time). There are many options for karaoke venues. There is a floating list which provides an estimate of what locals typically pay. I don't know how much foreigners pay. I can translate and provide it to this forum.


Hey man,

I will be in Vietnam later this month. I am down to be your wingman. Honestly, not too crazy about the KTV scenes unless they are affordable 2-3 Mil total. But open to all other stuff.

TakingChances
05-16-18, 20:19
There are so many Hi and BJ massage parlors in hcmc. There is a website in vnmese that provides reports on these venues.

For online options, you have kynu.net and danchoi.xxx. But they are in vnmese. Avoid wechat because they are all bait and switch. You also have cafe om (hug coffee shops) or bia om (hug bars where you drink and hug beautiful ladies at the same time). There are many options for karaoke venues. There is a floating list which provides an estimate of what locals typically pay. I don't know how much foreigners pay. I can translate and provide it to this forum.We can use google translate. Please provide the links and lists. Many thanks!

Bleble
05-17-18, 08:06
Here is one list.

http://www.chanrausach.xyz/tong-hop-quan-bia-om-massage-ben-nhat-sai-gon.html

If you need better translation, I can do it if you just want a short paragraph translated. I'll add other lists once I can remember them.


We can use google translate. Please provide the links and lists. Many thanks!

Bleble
05-18-18, 16:20
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/the-meat-you-eat-raid-on-vietnamese-facility-finds-beef-organs-being-soaked-in

"The meat you eat: Raid on Vietnamese facility finds beef organs being soaked in bleaching chemicals".

There are also issues with pork too. I would recommend eating chicken while you are there. Although not a meat product, I would recommend eating dragon fruits because they are so cheap in vn. I have not heard any issues related to this fruit. Have a safe travel.

Bleble
05-18-18, 16:22
Dmax recently raided and closed looks like KTV are now the target of cong an so ID doubt much sexy time will occur on premises, take out more the way to go but you looking at 1 m / shot for a avg looking gal 2-3 for overnight and for pretty ones 2-3 m ST etc, beers are about 40 k so definitely if you can control the girls whilst keeping things fun you total bill should be 2-3 mill (that's has been always been my experience in the 10 x + I have been) and def 2-3 m each even if you are big drinkers.During the raid, they took both customers and restaurant employees to the station for questioning. There is always a risk with mongering. Stay safe out there guys.

BJtemp
05-20-18, 04:07
Guys (or gals just in case) -.

This may be slightly off topic, but I am thinking about buying a condo in Vietnam to take advantage of the growth trend. Also this gives me an opportunity to play in a high-value environment. Two birds with one stone. I did this in Shenzhen 10 years ago and it worked out nicely; I hope to repeat that with HCMC.

Anyone has any thoughts about this? I'd love to hear about:

--Are property prices in HCMC and VN in general really going up at 7-8% rate? English info on this is sketchy.

--I understand only certain condo properties are available to foreigners. What areas are good places to buy? District 1? Others?

--What locations are best or most convenient from a monger perspective?

--Any advice on foreigners buying properties in VN.

UpAllHours
05-20-18, 13:14
How long is a little while?

Bars to pick up civies or P4P?

It's tough living here long-term trying to juggle work and play. Options are overwhelming.Addison,

I'll be around for a month or so. Trying to hit up some civi bars to start and maybe progress to P4P. Play it by ear. Any good nights for you? Any good recommendations on bars to pickup civies or tourists for that matter?

E.

Bleble
05-20-18, 19:18
Although this does not directly addresses your questions, note the following:

1) locals do not like condos because you do not actually own the right to the land. This limits the exit opportunities. This mentality also leads to many vacant condos.

2) You own the right to the use of the land. After 50 years, the right expires. There is no precedent of renewal, so who knows what will happen later. This limits your exit opportunities.

3) if you decide to buy a condo, buy an already built condo. There is alot of risks to condos under construction. Who knows if they have the financial capability to complete construction. Many projects are half complete.

Happy hunting for a condo.


Guys (or gals just in case) -.

This may be slightly off topic, but I am thinking about buying a condo in Vietnam to take advantage of the growth trend. Also this gives me an opportunity to play in a high-value environment. Two birds with one stone. I did this in Shenzhen 10 years ago and it worked out nicely; I hope to repeat that with HCMC..

Bleble
05-22-18, 14:49
https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20180522/massive-fish-deaths-along-southern-vietnamese-river/45722.html

Dead fish were selling like hot cakes. Be careful of what you eat.

Kuchingkia
05-23-18, 03:49
Hi guys,

Visiting HCMC next month, exploring business opportunities and at the same time looking for fun. My second time here, first time was rushing through meetings.

Would love to meet you guys in HCMC for a drink or meal.

Anyone from Malaysia or Singapore here?

SimplyTing
05-24-18, 11:36
There are so many Hi and BJ massage parlors in hcmc. There is a website in vnmese that provides reports on these venues.

For online options, you have kynu.net and danchoi.xxx. But they are in vnmese. Avoid wechat because they are all bait and switch. You also have cafe om (hug coffee shops) or bia om (hug bars where you drink and hug beautiful ladies at the same time). There are many options for karaoke venues. There is a floating list which provides an estimate of what locals typically pay. I don't know how much foreigners pay. I can translate and provide it to this forum.Want to ask I manage to translate donchoi. Xx but any such master to teach how do I use it? Like how to get the girl to my room.

Bleble
05-28-18, 13:09
I'm currently in Nha Trang (beach town 1 HR flight from HCMC). I would suggest looking at condos here if you are interested. They are opening up international flights to China, Korea, and Japan (so there will be an increase in tourism). In addition, the beach is nice, water is warm. Price-wise it's very affordable.


Guys (or gals just in case) -.

This may be slightly off topic, but I am thinking about buying a condo in Vietnam to take advantage of the growth trend. Also this gives me an opportunity to play in a high-value environment. Two birds with one stone. I did this in Shenzhen 10 years ago and it worked out nicely; I hope to repeat that with HCMC.

Anyone has any thoughts about this? I'd love to hear about:

--Are property prices in HCMC and VN in general really going up at 7-8% rate? English info on this is sketchy.

--I understand only certain condo properties are available to foreigners. What areas are good places to buy? District 1? Others?

--What locations are best or most convenient from a monger perspective?

--Any advice on foreigners buying properties in VN.

Bleble
05-28-18, 17:18
Do not buy sim card from the airport. Especially those booths that sell sim cards with unlimited data for 200 k vnd. Their unlimited data is after using 4 G speed for more than the capped data, the speed will drop to snail speed.

Therefore it is advisable to buy sim cards downtown at the local service center or anywhere throughout HCMC. Need your passport.

Possible option.

Viettel- 166 Tran Hung Dao Q1. Daily 8 am to 8 pm.

Sim card 50 k + 70 k for 7 Gb or 90 k 10 Gb. Valid for 1 month.

Bleble
05-28-18, 17:35
On May 27, a source said that the police of district 1 and the interdisciplinary inspection team District 1 (Ho Chi Minh City) made a record, identifying many violations occurred at restaurant Ann No. 83 Tran Quang Khai, Tan Dinh ward.

http://voh.com.vn/phap-luat/them-mot-nha-hang-karaoke-o-tphcm-co-tiep-vien-'thieu-vai-bi-xu-ly-271391. Html.

Bleble
05-31-18, 07:27
Water access in two Ho Chi Minh City districts will be cut this weekend from Saturday evening to Sunday morning to serve the construction of a flood drain, municipal water authorities announced on Wednesday.

https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20180531/ho-chi-minh-city-to-cut-water-supply-for-district-6-district-8-this-weekend/45861.html

Bleble
05-31-18, 07:32
https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/city-diary/20180529/how-to-protect-yourself-from-theft-and-robbery-in-vietnam/45836.html

FYI. Good read for a safe experience in vn.

Bleble
05-31-18, 17:35
Downtown Saigon raids net drug users, pimps, sex workers.

By Quoc Thang May 31, 2018.

03:42 pm GMT+7.

Raids aim to curb proliferation of vices in tourist district, police say.

In a pre-dawn swoop on Thursday, police in Ho Chi Minh City arrested dozens of suspected drug users and female sex workers at a downtown restaurant.

Hundreds of police personnel blockaded part of Ton That Tung Street in District 1 from both ends before raiding the Ruby Restaurant, a notorious overnight hangout.

The restaurant employees were prevented from turning on the alarm system, and dozens of waitresses in skimpy clothing were caught red-handed 'playing' with drunk customers. The suspected drug users and waitresses were taken to the police station for drug tests.

Police said they have fined the restaurant for operating an unlicensed karaoke business, keeping the place open late, offering sex services and selling fake alcoholic drinks, but did not specify the amounts.

At the same time, a group of officers raided a hotel on Bui Thi Xuan Street in District 1 and caught two women offering sex services to guests.

The women admitted to the police that they were sent to the hotel to serve for drunk customers for up to VND4 million ($175.4) per session. The restaurant manager, Pham Huu Sinh, 40, was also arrested for arranging sex services for customers.

Police said the raids were part of an operation to tighten control over several kids of commercial sex services offered by many restaurants and bars in the tourist district.

Vietnam is considering lifting its night curfew to 2 am, to encourage tourists to stay more and spend more. But most bars and nightclubs in Saigon, the country's largest city, are only allowed to serve guests until midnight.

According to statistics compiled by the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs, Saigon has nearly 22,000 registered drug users, the highest in the country at nearly 10 percent of the country's total.

Drug use is banned in Vietnam, and producing and dealing in drugs are criminal offenses.

Around 3,000 people are believed to be sex workers in Saigon, according to official data.

Gambling and prostitution have long been officially forbidden vices in Vietnam, but authorities have adopted a more lax attitude towards them in recent years. In 2013, Vietnam abolished compulsory rehabilitation for sex workers in favor of fines no higher than $100. The move has since sparked fierce debates among researchers, officials, and lawmakers on whether the country should legalize sex work.

Proponents of legalizing prostitution in Vietnam say the move is critical because it could significantly reduce the transmission of HIV among sex workers, citing studies that indicate that in places where prostitution is illegal, sex workers are more susceptible to sexually transmitted diseases. Some 70 countries in the world have legalized prostitution outright, including Australia and Germany.

According to a report by the United Nations Development Program, sex work has been decriminalized in many Southeast Asian countries as police turn their focus on arresting pimps and brothel owners instead of the sex workers themselves.

They also say that even though Vietnam has declared a "war on prostitution," sex work has continued to thrive. More than two years ago, sociologists in Saigon proposed that the government establish regulated red-light districts in order to root out some of the worst results of the trade, such as sex slave trafficking. But the proposal eventually died out under strong opposition from a mindset wherein prostitution is a symbol of moral decadence.

TakingChances
07-02-18, 01:40
I RTFF extensively before arriving and some of the tips helped me a great deal already.

Arrived in the morning and went straight to a hot toc location. One of the previous posts talked about a hot toc with more than 10 girls on Nguyen Phi Khan, that is number 112. Arrived there 9 am and was told there was only one WG so the guy told to come back at 10 am when others arrive. It was about 8 when I get back at 10 am.

The hot toc experience is nothing like I have ever experienced. The girl was super skilled and OMG never seen such a professional BBBJ. She teased me and then went full blown at it. I do not think it is possible to have better technique than this. She was also very involving and engaged to make me happy. I enjoyed it. Upon finishing, I payed her 400 k, just because others here described the price, otherwise is impossible to know the price and it is not wise to ask. She happily took the money and then I gave her a tip of 100 k and man the look on her face was that Santa Claus arrived. The lady was probably a 6 or 7. She also cleaned my hand to finger here but not my kind of think. She would also do rimming as she pointed there but I also said no. This is something to try for sure! Oh, and in this place you can see the line up and choose. Very important to me.

After almost getting killed either crossing the streets of Saigon or thinking my taxi will crash into traffic, I decided to have lunch and take a nap. Upon waking up started to frenetically try to get some action on we chat and Zalo. It is so time consuming and the yield is low. Could not get a date so decided to try Kynu.net.

Contacted 2 ladies and one responded. I sent message in Vietnam but then asking if she spoke English. She said yes. Told me hotel and off I went hoping to survive Saigon traffic. Girl name is Teresa, 1. 2 M, district 1. She had 6 positive reviews, all recent so I thought maybe she is a newbie. Oh boy, I was wrong about that. The pictures were accurate but she is probably 10 years older and too many miles for my taste. Her body was firm and nice breasts. I had no problem in getting excited and doing the deed but was expecting younger and less miles. She had a gray skin, and she also had smell of tobacco. I was a smoker in the past and weirdly enough is a turn on for me. Like others said. It is a quick encounter and service is a bit rushed but went well. I brought my own rubber. As others pointed out a must do for Vietnam giving local brands are too small. Paid the hotel 160 k and off to dinner.

Back to zalo amd we chat -I am hopeful something will come out online. While it is entertaining, it is a lot of work. Tons of bait and switch but a simple. Let's do a videoconference so I can see you are the person in the pics. Drive away the texting penises.

Hell of a day 1. Enjoyed overall. Peace out, TC.

Mushuu09
07-02-18, 06:06
I wish this post came a month sooner. I can attest that the data and speed was awesome the first week. After that, I could not load anything and had a hard time surfing on website, nevermind trying to stream video or anything of that nature. I brought my sim card at the airport (Viettel), before I went to baggage claim. It was just more convenient since I needed data to get a Grab Taxi, nor did I have to drag my luggage around outside on the streets trying to find a vendor that will sell a sim card with internet. Also, getting my sim card, you have to show them your passport, I think they take a picture or photo copy.

I think instead of listing places to go, it would help others like me (who have luggage and need phone / data service upon arrival) which plan to select. If the option to get the 10 gb without capping, I would get that plan even if it cost more in the airport than outside. But Bleble is right, the internet is capped and is as slow as shit. I had to start connecting to wifi because I got tired of the throttling. I also got the 400 k, which was like 120 min talk, unlimited text (I think? And unlimited data, for one month. Another way (I did not try), is to get data enough for a few days or week, and then getting a new plan. I just rather pay more for not throttling, once your throttle its like not having internet / data at all.


Do not buy sim card from the airport. Especially those booths that sell sim cards with unlimited data for 200 k vnd. Their unlimited data is after using 4 G speed for more than the capped data, the speed will drop to snail speed.

Therefore it is advisable to buy sim cards downtown at the local service center or anywhere throughout HCMC. Need your passport.

Possible option.

Viettel- 166 Tran Hung Dao Q1. Daily 8 am to 8 pm.

Sim card 50 k + 70 k for 7 Gb or 90 k 10 Gb. Valid for 1 month.

DanGood
07-02-18, 09:58
Hi all,

I will be back soon in Saigon.

I heard Kim from Jojo spa is now giving more services. Does anyone has more information for me.

Let me know! If you don't know the place, ask me.

DanGood
07-02-18, 10:00
Hi brother,

I would love to join during my next trip.

How to contact?

Why don't you pay the 20 US to get senior.

I know a nice girl in Saigon who gives excellent service.


Also, I'm in HCM for the long-term if anyone comes into town and would like to meet up for some mischief. I don't particularly like hitting the clubs and getting wasted. My body doesn't seem to handle it well anymore. I'll still go out of curiosity of finding ladies.

I'm fairly in-tune with most options in terms of massage places (HJ & BJ places), wechat girls, online dating, other short time options, bui vien options, little tokyo options.

I'm American born Viet and in my late 30's.

Cheers.

TakingChances
07-03-18, 01:55
Day 2 started with some sightseeing and intense we chatting. I had only one response in zalo. It seems zalo much more difficult to get attention. Let me say that I am a handsome guy sharing real picture but that does seeem to help my cause much. I also have a good swing with ladies, but man, it is tough out here.

I got a handful of real responses in we chat. Some FLs and some civilians. I chatted with 3 civilians for a while but decided to drop it after getting some sense what they are looking for or closely examining their pictures again. Got a date dinner with another one. After setting that up, decided to try some middle of day action and went to a hot toc mentioned here but to my surprise it had closed down from police raids. Disappointed went for a pm nap at hotel.

My date offered to pick me up after her work, to my surprise. She arrives in a Vespa and tells me to jump on it. My hands started to sweat and heart started to beat really fast. Now I get killed for sure in this traffic. It was the highest thrill of my trip by far but hopefully all good. Man it is scary. Never occurred to me she was coming in a vespa. After the drive I was able to catch my breath and pay attention to the date at hand. Pretty face, slim body but not really super neat appearance. Dinner was fun, chatty and she was very entertaining but not what I was hoping for. More like girlfriend material and from the conversation no way I could get action in one or two dates. Oh well, at least she was very funny and we had some good laughs.

Horny and feeling behind, went to a karaoke but it did not have any girls. Learned that not all karaokes have girls duhhhhhh. Then went to a Japanese one but did not like the girls (For you karaoke) then went to Milan (referral from another post), only 3 girls, not great quality, only one ok. A 6 or 7. Picked her. Had fund for a couple of hours, ask her to come to hotel with me and bummer, she said no. On my way out, talked to manager who said next time he lets me know which girl offers take out. But he said price is 4 million for that. Honestly I did not like this place much: dicey on prices, girls keeping consuming all the food and drinks that they put on the room, and keeping opening beers without finishing the ones opened. I do not mind paying top dollar but deceiving me put a bad taste in my mouth. Room was 400 k an hour but consumption was 700 k of which 2 beers I really consumed. I not coming here again. The manager gave me his phone number so I can check how many girls, etc and he said action starts at 3 pm. Can someone suggest a good karaoke? Anyone interested in hitting a karaoke together?

Back to hotel and crashed hard with big blue balls. I took more risk today and did not go my away at all. Peace out, TC.

Asian Lover Oz
07-03-18, 08:49
Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.


Day 2 started with some sightseeing and intense we chatting. I had only one response in zalo. It seems zalo much more difficult to get attention. Let me say that I am a handsome guy sharing real picture but that does seeem to help my cause much. I also have a good swing with ladies, but man, it is tough out here.

.

MonkeyPaw
07-04-18, 11:12
Day 2 started with some sightseeing and intense we chatting. I had only one response in zalo. It seems zalo much more difficult to get attention. Let me say that I am a handsome guy sharing real picture but that does seeem to help my cause much. I also have a good swing with ladies, but man, it is tough out here.

I got a handful of real responses in we chat. Some FLs and some civilians. I chatted with 3 civilians for a while but decided to drop it after getting some sense what they are looking for or closely examining their pictures again. Got a date dinner with another one. After setting that up, decided to try some middle of day action and went to a hot toc mentioned here but to my surprise it had closed down from police raids. Disappointed went for a pm nap at hotel.

My date offered to pick me up after her work, to my surprise. She arrives in a Vespa and tells me to jump on it. My hands started to sweat and heart started to beat really fast. Now I get killed for sure in this traffic. It was the highest thrill of my trip by far but hopefully all good. Man it is scary. Never occurred to me she was coming in a vespa. After the drive I was able to catch my breath and pay attention to the date at hand. Pretty face, slim body but not really super neat appearance. Dinner was fun, chatty and she was very entertaining but not what I was hoping for. More like girlfriend material and from the conversation no way I could get action in one or two dates. Oh well, at least she was very funny and we had some good laughs..You are learning that especially in Vietnam as an outsider, you are treated as a sex tourist, and nothing more. To get the most, you have to have some status amongst those you choose to play with. I am in Bangkok now, but HCM used to be my old stomping ground an. I had status in HCM, meaning, I was able to get action and privileges that most people cannot. It's something that most people who are oblivious of the "underground network" will not understand. So of course there will be those who always say stuff like, "how come that didn't happen for me?" They are always outsiders looking in. Our money is not always worth the same amount. Best believe that some people will get more out of a 100 bucks than others. It's all about who they are and what status they carry. Even in the pay for play scene. Look at it this way. You have 3 customers walk into a karaoke like Milan.

1. First customer is just a guy who has money who wants to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl because he read he can get action from an ISG thread. He only wants to spend the bare minimum for everything and has idea of the prices from reading the board. This type of customer is only a sex tourist to the establishment (which of course is illegal, underground, and has to pay bribes to the police). This customer will get scammed in every which way and end up spending money and get the lowest quality girls. They are a sex tourist, so they won't actually know any better.

2. Second customer is a guy who has a lot of money, who is willing to overspend to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl. He is more demanding and knows what he wants. This type of customer can walk into Milan, demand to see the line up of girls, and say he is willing to pay for the top looking ones to keep him company. The better looking girls will actually want to come. However, more money flashed, the more hustling they will do. This includes opening beer, water, and eating unnecessary food to run up your bill. You are still a sex tourist and they will still get you. You might have better luck with the girl. But she is not going to be top notch.

3. And then there is the third type of customer. This is me and how I used to roll in Vietnam. I'd call up my connect and tell him I want to party at Milan tonight. I want the best karaoke VIP room, no matter the rate per hour. Best one is about 350-400,000 per hour, just for the room. I send over photos of the exact type of girls I want. You have to understand that these guys who manage the clubs are nothing more than pimps and drug dealers posing as managers. I show up the club after midnight when they close. They are actually still opened inside, but the doors are shut from the outside. Manager comes to greet me and I slip 500 K for reserving me the best VIP room. We walk together and I ask about the girls and did he get the photos. He of course brings in these 10 girls, all slim, busty, white skinned, long haired with smiles on their faces into the VIP room. Some have been in other rooms entertaining other customers, but of course they excused themselves, and asked to go to the restroom JUST for this moment. They know my routine and they know my reputation. Of the 10 girls, I choose the best looking 3 to stay with me. I tip the other 5 of the 7 remaining girls 100 K each, and thank them for their time and their smiles. I go down the line and kiss the other 2 girls on their cheeks, whisper to them "next time," and hand them 200 K each. All the girls giggle and say "cam on" and then hurry back to their customers. When the waiters come in, I tip each waiter 500 K. There are two of them. I shut the door and lay down the ground rules in case they or anyone is new. First, nobody opens, eats, drinks anything without my permission. Second, since I have already tipped the waiters their money, I don't want them coming into my room, unless called by one of the girls or by me. Stay the fuck out! Their tip is for cleaning up the room when we are done. My money is better spent on having fun, instead of being scammed out of. They always listen, thank me for their tip, and leave the room a bit scared. But they always say, "he's so nice." Now the 3 girls who are left, stay and know what happens next. Usually, I chill, drink, and play a little Hello Kitty for the next 3 hours. They will sing and do their best to make me happy. The girls will each get 500 K per hour in tips if they stay with me. If I catch them trying to make extra money in other rooms, they will never be a part of my line up ever again. So they have a chance to make 1.5 M at the minimum just entertaining me. I like to tip 50 K for each time I get a DFK from each girl, but it has to be longer than 30 seconds. I also like to tip 100 K each time they DFK each other for 30 seconds as well. Honestly, the only thing we ever consume each time I book a room was water because of thirst from playing Hello Kitty and the fruit platter. I will always end of choosing only 1 of the 3 girls to come back to my room. I never had to discuss money or how much. Often when we got back to the room and banged each others brains out, they didn't want any payment. They would ask for me to be their boyfriend, be a good boy, and not go back to the karaoke. I of course handed them 8 green bills with Ho Chi Minh's face, smiled, and whispered "next time."

P.S. So imagine if you had the reputation of the third type of customer. Every manager at every karaoke bar will give you a blow job in order to keep you as their customer. This is how you have access to everything better.

Also try Thai Binh 3 Hotel on 22 NGO Quyen (D5). Call them first and book a room reservation for their karaoke. Mainly cater to the Chinese, Taiwanese, and Hong Kong and some Vietnamese locals as well. Others are welcome but tip the mamasan well to get the right girls for you if you can't speak the language. Follow some of my tips above about the waiters. They have about 20-30 girls per night. Have fun and tell the mamasan, her favorite customer the generous, kind, handsome guy with the cap and sleeved out tattoos sent you. Enjoy.

TakingChances
07-04-18, 13:14
I was determined to turn my luck around. In we chat, I was now getting invited but all sorts of women. I kept the focus on and even inviting others myself. One of the girls who invited me, looked really civilian, and she was a bit more mature, like late 20's, early 30's and I thought that might be really good. After chatting we planned to have dinner. I thought to myself a girl of that age who went out of her way to connect with me, knows what she wants and will not be looking for marriage. She was pretty as well, tall and a solid 7.5.

Meanwhile, I decided to get some afternoon action so went to Tao Dan Park as someone here said they did some take out there. I walked around for about 30 min at around 4 pm or so. And then sat down for another 15 mim or so. I screened the entire park and could not find anything. Just families, kids and old people. Dammmmm. I feel like I am trying to drill oil wells and they keep coming dry.

Then I got a WG's pimp connect with me in we chat. The picture was a gorgeous girl, 9. He said if it it was not the girl, no money to be paid. Asked for 1.3 million for 1 pop. I negotiated to 1 M and told him I was waiting in front of hotel. If it was not girl, shoe was not coming up the room. 15 min later she arrives, and she is gorgeous. Big breasts, curved body. Finally I hit jackpot. This girl in Europe would be like 300 euros. Then we go to the room, she asks for money, I pay her but she says it is 1.3 M or she leaves. I hate this discussions, showed her the phone and she would not budge. I should have risked sent her home but god has decided to turn my luck around and I could not pass because of 300 k dong. She undresses and she is fit below that dress too. What a body! She does a sloppy CBJ and mounts and immediately starts to get annoyed I am not done yet. I tried a bunch of positions but of course, could not pop. So I tell her we need to try again. She was a *****. And just left me. Fuck. Is there anything worse than that? Blue balls after fucking a great body with a **** attitude.

OK, I still had dinner with my second date. She was beautiful in person and her apartment was in a building across the street from my hotel. She was also fun like my first date. I have on rule for civilians: I do not deceive them so I would never try to get hopes up of a long term relationship so I can get her to bed. If she wants to have fun with me, she is aware I am not looking for relationship. During dinner, I ask her if she has a boyfriend which is no. When she asks me, I say I have many girlfriends, one in each country a visit. From her reaction and the ensuing discussion, that is the end for this date. Man, I cannot catch a break! I am very persistent but a couple more days like this and I might cut my Vietnam trip short. I am putting the effort, the money and the time, and I keep getting the short end of the stick.

TakingChances
07-04-18, 13:20
Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.This is very good advice. I am the type of a person who welcomes a challenge so I am hoping for greater satisfaction if I can get a little luck and put in the hard work. I am a bit tired of massage and I was hoping to skip it this trip but, if nothing works, I will try your suggestion.

Mushuu09
07-04-18, 16:10
There are many opportunities in VN, but no knowing what you may get is the worst part. Meaning, finding girls on online, you just don't know if they will look like their photos. Then girls on the street, you hear about bad service and getting robbed / scam. All the above happened to me when I was in VN. You can head to Apocalypse which is a good bar full of cute and hot girls. But its overran by Jap and Koreans and they are easy pickings for the girls. Even after chatting them up and having a decent connection, they still were asking for 120 USD, that's 2. 7 mil in VDN. I signed up for VietCupid and had a few dates lined up, but it would definitely take a few dates to get something going. Ended up dining out on two of the girls, and getting some good head from another, but they wanted marriage if I wanted to penetrate. Pretty high price to pay. While I was in the Philippines and I went on a date with a girl, it was off to the races as soon as I got back to the hotel.

But there is plenty of options, you have to work a bit harder, there's no one stop shop like other countries. But I think the girls as much hotter in VN, but again their a bit more cut throat.


Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.

DocInHeat
07-04-18, 19:10
Not easy mongering? I agree it's not Bangkok, but come on. Just go to most bars on Bui Vien street or Apocalypse. Or as noted, if you do KTV, ask the manager about the takeout girls before you choose. To do the wechat thing, unless you are actually staying for awhile, you have to start making connections way before you get there. Too labor-intensive for me!

I'm back in 3 weeks, I can hardly wait.

Doc.


Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.

TakingChances
07-04-18, 23:15
I was thinking I need to go for broke. One of the civilian girls I have been chatting with in we chat have been difficult to engage. She is going to college and busy all the time but she kept in touch. She is so hot. I kept inviting her to meet me until she actually asks me if I want service with her which I played dumb at first to understand exactly what she meant. Well well well, she wanted 1.3 M for FS which I promptly agreed. It is funny how it happened. I initiated the contact with this girl and also she has all sorts of personal pictures with friends and family in we chat. Couple that with the fact she seemed always busy with other stuff, I was hopeful this was going to be great. She seemed genuine in the text exchanges also.

Just after lunch, when her classes end, she shows up in a smoking hot dress, she is 23 which I believe. She is shy but I am a master in breaking the ice. All said and done, GFE experience, non rushed and she stayed more than 1 hour. Great body, no signs of mileage. She did not engage in a lot of conversation and I felt she was uneasy at times. Told her would love to repeat later in we chat and she's said yes so we will see. The best experience so far by a large margin.

Then there was this other girl I initiated contact in we chat, she tells me she work in a spa so again schedule dinner and this my third dinner date. I know, I cannot let go the dinner dates what's wrong with me. She is also hot and tells me after her work we can chat and have dinner.

Meanwhile I go to the mall to try to approach ladies that work on stores or civilians wandering around. No luck whatsoever. I usually would make a nice smile or start conversation. Oh boy, I got some looks that told "why the fuck you are looking at me". I have a very non threatening approach but they react as if I am going to rob them. Geeeeeeee.

In the meantime my dinner date cancels on me. Uhmmm, she probably a had a client doing take out with her I thought. She said we can try tomorrow. So I had dinner alone and decided to wander a bit on that large plaza behind the Saigon center mall. Tons of people outside and again tried ease my way in to some girls and they wanted none of it. I think they might think that I think they are hookers because of all the massage industry and hookers in the city so they dislike any approach by foreign man.

On the way back I go through the Pasteur's street with the bars. I personally do not like the bars. I am not a big drinker, music is too loud and I do not like the game of girls getting me drunk to get my bar tab skyrocket. Again, it is not about the money, it is about experience and having the feeling you are being deceived. It was about 9-10 pm and each bar there's a handful of girls outside, sitting around. I look at them and there is the occasional hottie and they talk to me and exchange a few words. On the last bar on my way back, I spot this beautiful girl who tells me to join them. To which I say I do not drink. To my surprise she says no problem and pushed a stool for me. Engaging lady and nice conversation for about an hour so I decided to be a gentleman and buy her a drink and one for me. I finish the drink and get her phone number and leave. On the way back, we agree to have lunch tomorrow. She is cutie, hot and super nice to be with. We will see if she offer any services or if it is another dead end.

Stay tuned, more tomorrow. Peace out, TC.

TakingChances
07-04-18, 23:44
You are learning that especially in Vietnam as an outsider, you are treated as a sex tourist, and nothing more. To get the most, you have to have some status amongst those you choose to play with. I am in Bangkok now, but HCM used to be my old stomping ground an. I had status in HCM, meaning, I was able to get action and privileges that most people cannot. It's something that most people who are oblivious of the "underground network" will not understand. So of course there will be those who always say stuff like, "how come that didn't happen for me?" They are always outsiders looking in. Our money is not always worth the same amount. Best believe that some people will get more out of a 100 bucks than others. It's all about who they are and what status they carry. Even in the pay for play scene. Look at it this way. You have 3 customers walk into a karaoke like Milan.

1. First customer is just a guy who has money who wants to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl because he read he can get action from an ISG thread. He only wants to spend the bare minimum for everything and has idea of the prices from reading the board. This type of customer is only a sex tourist to the establishment (which of course is illegal, underground, and has to pay bribes to the police). This customer will get scammed in every which way and end up spending money and get the lowest quality girls. They are a sex tourist, so they won't actually know any better...I like your style! Thank you for the KTV recommendation! To be honest, I do not think I would go back alone to a KTV. If you are around and would like to join me, that would be nice.

Asian Lover Oz
07-05-18, 09:50
She is so hot. I kept inviting her to meet me until she actually asks me if I want service .Looks like it eventually paid off in this case, well done. But I can see how frustrating your experiences have been. Approaching random girls on the street is fine in BKK or MNL but in Vietnam you have so many obstacles to this approach in Vietnam, even for a good looking guy like you.

It such a shame as the girls are simply stunning in general. Living there long term is very tempting.

DocInHeat
07-06-18, 00:06
This is excellent. I definitely agree that this is a successful approach and in many ways, cost-effective. Better to make friends than enemies, especially with people you're trying to sleep with! Why continually nickel and dime people and get them in a bad attitude?

Doc.


You are learning that especially in Vietnam as an outsider, you are treated as a sex tourist, and nothing more. To get the most, you have to have some status amongst those you choose to play with. I am in Bangkok now, but HCM used to be my old stomping ground an. I had status in HCM, meaning, I was able to get action and privileges that most people cannot. It's something that most people who are oblivious of the "underground network" will not understand. So of course there will be those who always say stuff like, "how come that didn't happen for me?" They are always outsiders looking in. Our money is not always worth the same amount. Best believe that some people will get more out of a 100 bucks than others. It's all about who they are and what status they carry. Even in the pay for play scene. Look at it this way. You have 3 customers walk into a karaoke like Milan.

1. First customer is just a guy who has money who wants to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl because he read he can get action from an ISG thread. He only wants to spend the bare minimum for everything and has idea of the prices from reading the board. This type of customer is only a sex tourist to the establishment (which of course is illegal, underground, and has to pay bribes to the police). This customer will get scammed in every which way and end up spending money and get the lowest quality girls. They are a sex tourist, so they won't actually know any better.

2. Second customer is a guy who has a lot of money, who is willing to overspend to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl. He is more demanding and knows what he wants. This type of customer can walk into Milan, demand to see the line up of girls, and say he is willing to pay for the top looking ones to keep him company. The better looking girls will actually want to come. However, more money flashed, the more hustling they will do. This includes opening beer, water, and eating unnecessary food to run up your bill. You are still a sex tourist and they will still get you. You might have better luck with the girl. But she is not going to be top notch.

3. And then there is the third type of customer. This is me and how I used to roll in Vietnam. I'd call up my connect and tell him I want to party at Milan tonight. I want the best karaoke VIP room, no matter the rate per hour. Best one is about 350-400,000 per hour, just for the room. I send over photos of the exact type of girls I want. You have to understand that these guys who manage the clubs are nothing more than pimps and drug dealers posing as managers. I show up the club after midnight when they close. They are actually still opened inside, but the doors are shut from the outside. Manager comes to greet me and I slip 500 K for reserving me the best VIP room. We walk together and I ask about the girls and did he get the photos. He of course brings in these 10 girls, all slim, busty, white skinned, long haired with smiles on their faces into the VIP room. Some have been in other rooms entertaining other customers, but of course they excused themselves, and asked to go to the restroom JUST for this moment. They know my routine and they know my reputation. Of the 10 girls, I choose the best looking 3 to stay with me. I tip the other 5 of the 7 remaining girls 100 K each, and thank them for their time and their smiles. I go down the line and kiss the other 2 girls on their cheeks, whisper to them "next time," and hand them 200 K each. All the girls giggle and say "cam on" and then hurry back to their customers. When the waiters come in, I tip each waiter 500 K. There are two of them. I shut the door and lay down the ground rules in case they or anyone is new. First, nobody opens, eats, drinks anything without my permission. Second, since I have already tipped the waiters their money, I don't want them coming into my room, unless called by one of the girls or by me. Stay the fuck out! Their tip is for cleaning up the room when we are done. My money is better spent on having fun, instead of being scammed out of. They always listen, thank me for their tip, and leave the room a bit scared. But they always say, "he's so nice." Now the 3 girls who are left, stay and know what happens next. Usually, I chill, drink, and play a little Hello Kitty for the next 3 hours. They will sing and do their best to make me happy. The girls will each get 500 K per hour in tips if they stay with me. If I catch them trying to make extra money in other rooms, they will never be a part of my line up ever again. So they have a chance to make 1.5 M at the minimum just entertaining me. I like to tip 50 K for each time I get a DFK from each girl, but it has to be longer than 30 seconds. I also like to tip 100 K each time they DFK each other for 30 seconds as well. Honestly, the only thing we ever consume each time I book a room was water because of thirst from playing Hello Kitty and the fruit platter. I will always end of choosing only 1 of the 3 girls to come back to my room. I never had to discuss money or how much. Often when we got back to the room and banged each others brains out, they didn't want any payment. They would ask for me to be their boyfriend, be a good boy, and not go back to the karaoke. I of course handed them 8 green bills with Ho Chi Minh's face, smiled, and whispered "next time."

P.S. So imagine if you had the reputation of the third type of customer. Every manager at every karaoke bar will give you a blow job in order to keep you as their customer. This is how you have access to everything better.

Also try Thai Binh 3 Hotel on 22 NGO Quyen (D5). Call them first and book a room reservation for their karaoke. Mainly cater to the Chinese, Taiwanese, and Hong Kong and some Vietnamese locals as well. Others are welcome but tip the mamasan well to get the right girls for you if you can't speak the language. Follow some of my tips above about the waiters. They have about 20-30 girls per night. Have fun and tell the mamasan, her favorite customer the generous, kind, handsome guy with the cap and sleeved out tattoos sent you. Enjoy.

TakingChances
07-06-18, 00:38
In my first day, I reached out to a hottie civilian and exchanged a few texts but she went silent after that. I pinged her a few times more, once a day but heard nothing back until last morning. This is 9 girl, nice body, tits, fair skin, the whole package and early 20's. I invited her for dinner as the usual me. In my mind, when I am not absolutely sure what will happen, I think a dinner and skillful conversation will reveal the path to happiness. She agrees but she she is so tired and will rest in the afternoon because she works too hard because she need money for her mom. Aha! I got this! I reply saying I can help her with a little money if she likes me and I like her, which I am sure will happen. She then transforms herself and sends me all kinds of memes, really happy, sends a selfie, she is excited. Amazing what a little money can do. She will meet me at 6 pm at my hotel restaurant and then can just go up to my room if we like each other. She agrees and already tells me she can stay until 9 pm since she works at a KTV. Finally I got a sexy KTV girl.

In the meantime, I am off to lunch with the bar girl I met the day before at Pasteur street. She is so sweet and nice but I am not sensing she is P4P. I am thinking is it possible a bar girl that is not P4P? She dresses conservatively and from the conversation, I cannot really tell. We do a little sightseeing after lunch and then I excuse myself because I need an afternoon nap before the evening battle. I decided to try the bar girl again another day but now that we know each other better, I can just tell her point blank I have a crush on her and want her in my personal space haha. So I am very curious to see her reaction because she does not look like P4P.

Back to hotel, I keep looking at the KTV girls pictures and I read the stories of lady boys and saw a few here and some of them are pretty girls and very tough to distinguish. I politely ask her to confirm she is a girl. Totally my paranoia because there is no way she was not. She confirms but ask me if she can ask me a question. Oh oh, cannot be good I thought. She asks me if I have a big instrument because she is too tight and cannot handle big. Oh well, that was the end of it and we cancelled since yeah I am big. I had no problems so far with that here but from other posts I knew could be an issue. Man, this girl was so hot. Sucks.

Then I take my nap and invite the massage girl who cancelled on me they day before. She is free today so we go eat at Saigon center mall. She is more beautiful in person than in the pictures, nice lady, dressed conservatively and good conversation, smart lady. I overall impressed with the ladies here. Again, I have no idea if she is P4P, I ask about her massages and work, and everything and she does not let anything out. So I tell her I was looking for a foot massage and she says she does it. She also says she is going back to work after dinner. Wholly crap I think. A few more words exchanged and we agree she comes to my hotel to give foot massage. I swear that I still did not know what was going to happen. Weird but I like going with the flow to see where the road taken leads, one step a time I was thinking. Also, I truly respect these ladies, would never try to do anything they are not comfortable with and like them to enjoy too. If it was only massage, no problem. She drives me in her motorbike in hotel and she engages in the foot massage. We are talking all then time, and I still do not know if I am lucky or not. Damn. Until the massage is almost ending and she playfully grab my chest. And the rest was history. She asked for a tip for a happy ending but then I get the condom and she says usually does not do that. I insisted and she asks for a bigger tip. She wanted me to say how much. After we are hugging naked. I tell her 2 million including massage and she is happy. She stayed for another 2 hours, phenomenal sex, GFE, wow. Great body, strong lady with a little belly and normal tits. Experience was amazing. Want to repeat as well.

I really like to score but when I do after such chasing it feels really really good. Vietnam is proving to be the best experience ever for me. Peace out, TC.

MonkeyPaw
07-06-18, 09:18
I really like to score but when I do after such chasing it feels really really good. Vietnam is proving to be the best experience ever for me. Peace out, TC.If you want a rockstar experience. Go to DC Club off 148 Cong Quynh near Bui Vien, but before 10:00 PM. Ask for a manager named Mr. Sofi Alex and another named Mr. Teo. Tell them Anh Thai with all the tattoos over his body sent you. Tell them you want to reserve a VIP table and party with some sexy models (Mr. Teo's specialty). They will make sure you have good time and will even take you to after hours party places, when the club closes. I bet afterwards, you will write up a report of your LIFETIME. DC Club is generally reserved for the rich, powerful, and famous of HCM. So stay safe and have fun!

TakingChances
07-06-18, 21:25
I started the day craving to meet my college student lady and scheduled for after lunch when her classes end. In the meantime, I decided to turn my attention to the bar lady. Remember, I have no idea is she is P4P and I found her very sweet. I very politely write to her saying I have a crush on her and she says she is surprised as she herself has a crush on me. OMG. I am getting a hard on already. So I tell her however, I am not looking for a wife or a relationship so I am not sure if she is on board. Then becomes tricky as she says it is ok, we can only become friends. To which I say, friends that can kiss each other as a question. She then is noncommittal actual and she basically does not say yes or no, but that she needs time to adjust her feelings. Crap, this is not happening. So I decide to go out one last time with her, a last chance. In the late afternoon before her work. I am very very surprised that a bar girl is not open to takeout. She even has a crush on me. What the hell is going on!

I turn my attention back to we chat. I had texted a civilian that has a business full time job. She is gorgeous, OMG. I am thinking I have not had any success with civilians yet so I decided to change tactics a bit. I was surprised she was chatty with me. This time around, I invite her for lunch or dinner but I tell her upfront I am not looking for marriage nor a relationship but I found her very cute and would like to get to know her better. Either she dumps me or she is on board. And yesssssss, it worked. We agree to meet for lunchntomorrow. I feel I dropped enough hints I find her attractive and that is why we are going out. She finds me funny and may have liked my pictures. Giving this is Vietnam, I am cautiously optimistic. If if take 2 or 3 dates to get to the finish line, I would be very happy. This lady is in her late 20's which helps a bit as more mature and experienced. I have another hot civilian I am working on but more on that later.

We chat has proven very good for me given I can afford spend the time on it. I had no luck with Zalo. The problem I had with the civilians is that they want relationship, so I am trying to fix that by instead of disappointing them on the date, I tell them upfront, make my intentions a bit clearer and they can say no to me Before we Meet so we do not waste too much time.

As to the WGs in wechat, I had a bad experience with a pimp but my college lady who schedule for herself worked nicely. I think in general, I will only focus on lady's who text for themselves because if they take the time to get you hooked, they will take the time to please you in bed. The pimps are trying to squeeze the ladies, who feel pressured to speed up dates. That was my experience so far. I have a 2 other P4P candidates lined up already but all texting by themselves. There was also the tight KTV lady. Too bad we were not anatomically compatible but I suspect it would have been amazing. I considered trying again Kynu as well but honestly, it is too rushed for me -I need a bit of foreplay and I like a bit longer sex act.

So where were I? Oh yeah, my college lady arrives and we have a wonderful time. This time she enjoys herself and have an orgasm nicely. Then I went on to take a nap before I head out to meet the bar lady.

I met the bar lady but as suspected, this is not happening. I have seen this movie before. She likes me, would like me around, but emotionally she needs a lot of time to be able to be intimate with a man. She was nice and we have another good time but I am cutting my losses short with her.

Hope some appreciate my day to day account of experiences. I am sharing my high level thinking and strategizing in real time which is guided by what I like, and I do like the chase. I know most people do not have that much time on hand to do what I am doing but hopefully there are some helpful lessons learned at the end.

TakingChances
07-06-18, 21:36
If you want a rockstar experience. Go to DC Club off 148 Cong Quynh near Bui Vien, but before 10:00 PM. Ask for a manager named Mr. Sofi Alex and another named Mr. Teo. Tell them Anh Thai with all the tattoos over his body sent you. Tell them you want to reserve a VIP table and party with some sexy models (Mr. Teo's specialty). They will make sure you have good time and will even take you to after hours party places, when the club closes. I bet afterwards, you will write up a report of your LIFETIME. DC Club is generally reserved for the rich, powerful, and famous of HCM. So stay safe and have fun!Thank you. Man, you do know the ropes around here! This sounds amazing but I am not sure I am brave enough to go alone.

TakingChances
07-07-18, 23:46
Had a great lunch date with the business lady, she is gorgeous, fun, cute, fit. She picked a great restaurant and as always I pay the bill and treat her nicely. She has good conversation which makes an interesting hunt for me. I decided not to try anything yet and wait for a second date. She is worth investing some time. In mind, if nothing happens in 3 dates, I am out. We agree to meet again next day.

I really wanted to go back to hot toc and went to the same one at 112 Nguyen Phi Khanh. This time they had more than 10 girls there. I pick a gorgeous young lady. This time I pay a bit more attention to the premises and the place is falling apart, old with a lot of stains. It does not smell bad and I am not disgusted but some people can easily get turned off. The towel she gives me is clean and smell fresh. Anyway, this lady is probably in her early 20's, hard rock tits and ass, no belly, soft skin. OMFG. She spoke zero English. Upon finishing, I use google translate to ask her if boom boom possible. She says only BJ. Then I ask if she can come to my hotel later which types that she does what her mamasan tells her and she did not tell her it is OK. I am now interested asking the mamasan, however, upon my 400 k payment + 200 k tip she tells to pay to mamasan. I took as an opportunity for mamasan rip me off. She took the money with hesitation, was happy with tip and off I went. Does anyone has experience in checking out hot toc girls?

I have been working on another civilian through wechat but after I invite her for coffee or dinner, she goes silent. She probably scared meeting a stranger. I tried to bring her back to chatting but nothing.

I am interested in trying the park Cong Vien quach thi Trang. Read that there is FLs all day and night around. Right now I feel I have a full pipeline for a couple of days but we will see.

As I used a lot of wechat, I was looking at my account. I have a bit more than 50 connections made. In the first 3 days, I was too loose, sending too many requests which got me many girls to start conversation but then upon closer inspection of their pictures, I dumped texting a bunch of them, maybe 7 or 8. It has been easy to identify pimps now. Usually they go straight to the point of do you want sex and massage now. So I know it is a pimp and decline. If I am in doubt, I ask for video call but so far only one agreed and always give lame excuses such as camera broken, no internet. The FLs usually take their time a little more to offer you services and some, it takes a few days to learn that they are FLs. If you are like me and like low mileage lady and long service, so avoid the pimps because the odds are in favor of rushed service and high mileage lady.

Taking chances sometimes mean failing, and I am ok with that as long as I can toast to some success and learn my way to better outcomes. Peace out, TC.

TakingChances
07-09-18, 02:33
I started the day craving for my massage girl who surprisingly texted me first in the morning interested in a meeting. I scheduled for 4 pm, a bit early but our first encounter took 4 hours or so and I want to sleep early today as I am a bit tired.

The business lady arrives for lunch at my hotel. I carefully planted a trap in which I bought her a gift and, after lunch, I will invite her to my room to get the gift and explore some western music. If she wants to get intimate with me, at least she can use that as an excuse to herself and then have the justification that it just happened. It was destiny after all. Before lunch, I told her I have a crush on her and she gets excited to see me. She arrives in a smoking hot dress with nice cleavage and showing her beautiful legs. This lady is a 10 with honors today. Nice lunch, good conversation again. I found that being able to communicate in English makes a huge difference in the overall experience here. Then I let out I have a gift for her but she tells me to pick up and that she waits in the restaurant. Crap. I playfully insist but she has none of it. Came down and tried very politely touch her hand, and again she is not comfortable. That was the end of it for me. And that ends my quest for civilians, maybe I was not lucky to find a lady more liberal but I knew it was going tough going in. I now cut my losses and keep going with the semi pro market.

It is amazing Vietnam has a little bit of everything. I think the trick is to find what suits you better:

- professional market: kynu and thiendia. I found too rush service and girls wit, h too many miles. I am sure you can find a diamond in the rough if you make the rounds. The pimps on wechat I do not recommend at all. Very rushed, bad service. The FLs on wechat might be a much better choice but I would make sure she takes the time talking to you and speak some English. I have a couple lined up but have not tried yet. Hot Toc is a great experience but no boom boom satisfaction there. There is also the FLs in the park that I want to try- maybe today.

- semi-pro market: I think this is the sweet spot, with low mileage ladies, easier to find great service and GFE experience. I got a college lady and a massage lady, both low mileage, and I think between the 2 I am pretty much set if I need service. In this bucket, there are the bars, massage places, KTV girls. As I painfully learned many of these ladies do not offer services so it is an individual try and error approach for each lady. I failed withnKTV (I learned you need to ask mamasan for take out girl) and with a bar girl who simply not offering services.

- civilian market: I put some serious time in this bucket, had several dates, and came back empty handed. I considered myself handsome and with great game; but nothing did it. I read about culture and dating differences but the ladies just want long term commitment and are willing to sit on their hands. I am done with this bucket.

Where were I? Oh yeah, my massage girl arrives. She is so hot and nice, what a treat. She gives me massage and we make out like bunnies, totally GFE. She stays 5 hours and I take her for dinner. She intrigued me a bit, she in late 20's but still low mileage but she is so busy with massage and has been doing this for a long time. How is that possible, I do not know. She is a pleasure to be with but when I try to understand better what she does, she does not let out. I would like to learn a bit her so I can see how to find another one like her but she keep saying her cards close to her chest.

End of day, I am dead. Collapse sleeping. I think I will end my daily series with this post and if there is anything else's interesting, I will write up later on.

Vietnam could not have been a better experience. Some mistakes and suffering. But I am very satisfied. In the end, Vietnam has a lot of options, you just need to find what you want and your sweet spot and strategize how to get it.

Take your chances in Vietnam and you will not regret! Peace out,

TC.

TakingChances
07-09-18, 21:33
On Sunday, I entered wechat and realized that the number of girls was much much higher with a lot of new faces. I sent a few requests. On Monday, I started chatting with one of the ladies. She offers to meet me for 1 million. I found her very cute and she looks semi pro. She says she has finished college and has some free time right now. I ask for a video call and confirm she is the one texting me. I am interested and tell her to come to my hotel. It was about 2 pm and she says she can meet me at 5 pm because of her bus schedule. What? Bus schedule? It happens she lives an hour by car outside of Saigon and comes only on Sundays with friends to have fun in the mall and the city. Jackpot, I thought. She got be low mileage and she looks so innocent and fresh. She says she thinks I am handsome and we will have a good time. Dammmmm. So I tell her to get a taxi and come immediately and I will pay the taxi. To be honest, I was still suspicious but did another video call and she was on the taxi and we kept chatting until she arrived. Great, fun experience, she was very horny, low mileage, nice firm tits, ass, great legs. And she looks like the next door girl. GFE experience all the day. I think she would have stayed all the way to overnight but I kicked her out as I needed to take a nap.

One thought on using Wechat for semi pro market. I only had success when I reach out to the girl to connect. I had many girls sending me connection requests but none of those led to a successful experience. So yeah, I think if you use wechat to find a semi pro, you need to be pro active rather than waiting for the girls to reach out.

The unpredictability of Saigon mongering scene is an added thrill factor for me. Initially I struggled a bit and was frustrated but if you have the time and the patience, you will find your way to whatever suits your appetite.

Peace out,

TC.

TakingChances
07-09-18, 21:44
Cong Vien quach thi Trang (next to Ben Thanh Market) where FLs lurk around is closed due to subway construction. Does anyone know where all the action went to?

NguyetLang
07-12-18, 13:41
One thought on using Wechat for semi pro market. I only had success when I reach out to the girl to connect. I had many girls sending me connection requests but none of those led to a successful experience. So yeah, I think if you use wechat to find a semi pro, you need to be pro active rather than waiting for the girls to reach out.

The unpredictability of Saigon mongering scene is an added thrill factor for me. Initially I struggled a bit and was frustrated but if you have the time and the patience, you will find your way to whatever suits your appetite.

Peace out,

TC.BRAVO! You have found success in Vietnam. I share the same sentiment. You may need to work a bit harder to find happiness in Vietnam, but big rewards await those who can make the investment (mostly time and charms). Thank you for such great reports. You are quite a writer.

Cheers,

TakingChances
07-13-18, 11:59
BRAVO! You have found success in Vietnam. I share the same sentiment. You may need to work a bit harder to find happiness in Vietnam, but big rewards await those who can make the investment (mostly time and charms). Thank you for such great reports. You are quite a writer.

Cheers,Thank you, sir.

One last account: I decided to try the Vien Dong hotel for massages and I was very surprised how easy it was to connect with a gorgeous 23 year old. I stayed away from my massages on my trip because my body has not been responding well to massage, but decided to give one try before leaving Saigon. Vien Dong is really amazing facility, brand new, beautiful. I tipped mamasan 100 k (I know I overdid but I did not have change dammmmm) and he sent a gorgeous lady. I was expecting to send back the first one but I just could not. She gave me access to everything and did a nice hand job. We talked throughout the session, I teased her all the way. In the end, she gave me a kiss and her number to call her to schedule a meeting when she is off. Unfortunately for me it is too late so au Revoir Saigon. I wish I could have a permanent base in Vietnam. This is place is amazing. If anything, you all need to be careful with the ladies here as it is easy to get carried away sometimes and get too close emotionally to some of the ladies. I guess that is a nice problem to have for some. This ends my account of my trip. Peace out, TC.

Sprotty
07-27-18, 10:11
Hello friends,

I am visiting HCMC in a couple of days. Seniors from this forum are requested to provide info about HCMC / saigon area and how things operate there including prospects of Saigon Uni, wechat, tinder. PM is active.

Thanks.

Irish Mongrel
07-28-18, 01:59
Hello friends,

I am visiting HCMC in a couple of days. Seniors from this forum are requested to provide info about HCMC / saigon area and how things operate there including prospects of Saigon Uni, wechat, tinder. PM is active.

Thanks.I'll be nice and say if you RTFF you will find all the information you need. Some other memebers might be a littls less subtle. All the information you need is here, just spend some of your time looking for it. Nothign is for free in this world.

Smokarz_XO
08-05-18, 22:09
You are learning that especially in Vietnam as an outsider, you are treated as a sex tourist, and nothing more. To get the most, you have to have some status amongst those you choose to play with. I am in Bangkok now, but HCM used to be my old stomping ground an. I had status in HCM, meaning, I was able to get action and privileges that most people cannot. It's something that most people who are oblivious of the "underground network" will not understand. So of course there will be those who always say stuff like, "how come that didn't happen for me?" They are always outsiders looking in. Our money is not always worth the same amount. Best believe that some people will get more out of a 100 bucks than others. It's all about who they are and what status they carry. Even in the pay for play scene. Look at it this way. You have 3 customers walk into a karaoke like Milan..I like how you roll, brother.

Now, I just need to hit the lotto or inherit a loaded mutual fund from a long lost great grandfather.

Global Citizen
08-09-18, 07:15
Can anyone tell me if there are swinger's clubs in HCMC such as the FKK in Germany?

Thanks in advance.

GC.

NeuroCynical
08-10-18, 18:45
I'm generally a lurker on the forum, and have been punting long enough to be able to generally work it out myself now. A cautionary tale from a fellow punter friend of mine about Saigon worried me enough, though, to RTFF, and thank you to posters for tempering my expectations. My trip ends tomorrow, so I thought I'the share my perspectives that might help Saigon newbies like myself.

1. Hotels. It doesn't appear to be any easier or harder to get girls into high end or cheap hotels. Paranoia drives me to book a pricey hotel (Reverie this time) and a cheaper hotel for punting. It was equally a hassle to get girls in, and seemingly impossible after 9 pm, except the night I hooked up with an English lass. I did not see one girl available to be picked up in any hotel I visited.

2. Bars. The go-go bar variety was an interesting experience, but it is no BKK. Go there to pass the hours. Do not expect a punt necessarily. Punts are probable to possible, but not guaranteed. I was unable to find the correct mix of attractive girl who was willing. In regular, high-end bars, I was more successful. Some charm, wit, and monetary investment got me a number of numbers, and two ended up in my bed (and as an excellent, non-judgmental tour-guides). I rate them 8 and 9, and both are educated and engaging. Definitely GFE, and many are looking for foreign husbands but possible. Oddly I felt better odds in high-end bars than in the go-go bars. Broma Not-A-Bar is a good speak-easy vibe place where the pretentious go to not appear pretentious.

3. Online. WeChat was a disaster for me. Too many scammers. Tinder I got a date, which was interesting and I probably would have arrived at the gates of heaven if I'the persevered, but I lost patience. On tinder I also met a bar girl who freelances outside the bar. Best punt of the trip. Went for hours at it, and was insatiable. She was a 7. She became my go-to during lulls.

4. Massage. Never really been my thing, even in BKK or elsewhere. Went out of desperation to Rona and was disappointed with how mechanical the whole thing was (and not just the sex).

5. Street scene. I didn't see any working girls, nor was I approached. A couple of dudes on motorcycles offered boom-boom, but I wasn't keen on trying this.

Cheapest punts were the girls I met at the high-end bars (paid nothing for the sex), but I paid a lot in expensive drinks and meals. The tinder freelancer cost me 2.5 m per 24 hours. Given the number of shots I was getting, really good value.

I think in many cities you can have a strategy and stick with it. I think in Saigon you need to have multiple approaches and try different things in a day. And when you find something that works, hold onto it but don't stop keeping your options open.

My two cents re Saigon.

BlueBaron
08-18-18, 07:28
2. Bars. The go-go bar variety was an interesting experience, but it is no BKK. Go there to pass the hours. Do not expect a punt necessarily. Punts are probable to possible, but not guaranteed. I was unable to find the correct mix of attractive girl who was willing. In regular, high-end bars, I was more successful. Some charm, wit, and monetary investment got me a number of numbers, and two ended up in my bed (and as an excellent, non-judgmental tour-guides). I rate them 8 and 9, and both are educated and engaging. Definitely GFE, and many are looking for foreign husbands but possible. Oddly I felt better odds in high-end bars than in the go-go bars. Broma Not-A-Bar is a good speak-easy vibe place where the pretentious go to not appear pretentious.I heard that HCMC did not have go-go bars, but you say you found some? I guess a go-go bar is one where there's a stage and a lineup of girls up there dancing to music in bikinis or sexy outfits, or maybe topless. You found such places? Can you please share which places and where we can find them? That will be very appreciated by all here, I'm sure.

The GreenHorn
08-23-18, 00:36
Hi guys,

I found saigonescortagency who required an advanced deposit skiing with all my name details hotel etc.

Anybody had experience with them?

Thanks.

Johnny.

NgankoKyew
08-24-18, 14:23
Thank you, sir.

One last account: I decided to try the Vien Dong hotel for massages and I was very surprised how easy it was to connect with a gorgeous 23 year old. I stayed away from my massages on my trip because my body has not been responding well to massage, but decided to give one try before leaving Saigon. Vien Dong is really amazing facility, brand new, beautiful. I tipped mamasan 100 k (I know I overdid but I did not have change dammmmm) and he sent a gorgeous lady. I was expecting to send back the first one but I just could not. She gave me access to everything and did a nice hand job. We talked throughout the session, I teased her all the way. In the end, she gave me a kiss and her number to call her to schedule a meeting when she is off. Unfortunately for me it is too late so au Revoir Saigon. I wish I could have a permanent base in Vietnam. This is place is amazing. If anything, you all need to be careful with the ladies here as it is easy to get carried away sometimes and get too close emotionally to some of the ladies. I guess that is a nice problem to have for some. This ends my account of my trip. Peace out, TC.What number is it? Going to try her next time.

ChiliChill
09-04-18, 23:10
Hi guys,

I found saigonescortagency who required an advanced deposit skiing with all my name details hotel etc.

I found them too. Sure looks like a scam to me. If it's legit, it's really expensive. I'd be willing to pay for a pre-arranged sure thing, since I'd rather not spend my one free night in HCMC unsuccessfully prowling bars. Has anyone tried this agency?

TomSf
09-05-18, 19:59
Hi guys,

I found saigonescortagency who required an advanced deposit skiing with all my name details hotel etc.

Anybody had experience with them?

Thanks.

Johnny.The nickname I give to Vietnam is Viet-scam. If you pay a deposit you will never see that money again and there will be no way to get it back. I don't know anything about that company but I am familiar with Vietnam.

Osaka
09-06-18, 14:24
Was in HCM for work in last week of August. I have been coming to HCM for the last several years and what a change it has been. The airport visa has become a chaos which usually leads to an Hour at least waiting while they process your visa on arrival letter.

Anyway the biggest change I have noticed is in the Hotels in D1 where I usually stay. From frowning upon the guests having company all of them are going the BKK model with no q's asked.

Even the bell boys are suggesting massage with lovely ladies for 1 M.

Tried several women from wechat but no satisfaction received. First girl was completely flat, literally only nipples were present, she gave a decent massage. Second lady was very busty obviously full of silicone. Both were 1 M. The second one on asking said that I was her 5th customer of the night. I saw wow you are really raking it in.

The new night market for food near Ben Thanh has some good choices and inexpensive food available.

Happened to also visit Ho Tram which was good in terms of the beach, the casino and the nightclub inside had some hot hot performances by the dancers. Decent place for 1 or 2 nights. Ideally bring a girl with you from HCM or elsewhere.

Osaka.

Buksida1
11-20-18, 01:37
Chatted to a lady on Tagged yesterday morning. She is a well kept and fit 38 year old business owner, reasonably attractive divorced for 5 years. She agreed to drop by my hotel for morning coffee but showed up 45 minutes late complaining about traffic. We chatted for awhile but her English was not great and my VN nonexistent. Invited her for a tour of the LE Meridien hotel and immediately escorted her to my room. Thirty minutes later, she was gently blowing me as it was her menses time. Soft and giving she claimed to not have any sex for 5 years. We enjoyed a northern VN style lunch and she had to go back to work. She returned to LE Meridien at 7 pm With a bottle of wine and my weasel was greased again. Hotel rules are that there are no guests after 10 pm so I moved her out early and happily slept alone. Looking forward to the session tonight!! Thank you Tagged!

Buksida1
11-20-18, 15:03
Lady from tagged who is an ambulance dispatcher showed up drunk. 29 years old tall and slim, she is every guy's kind of lady. Why did she come to see me? She saw too many bad casualties today and was very upset. Gave her a beer in lounge and took her to my room. Sucked her boobs for awhile and fingered her. She was wet and enjoyed the attention but was overcome with sadness. I walked her to the elevator and let her find her own taxi. Still early so back on the hunt!

Jon1967
12-29-18, 04:30
Hi to all,

I am not a regular participant here, merely a lurker. I am also not what you call a "monger". I am a serious man, looking for serious sex with as real GFE as possible. My standards are high, and demands are as high. And as much as I'm not out to splurge 500 USD / hour for a frigid "model", I am still looking out for hot-bodied, experienced woman I can have my way with. I also don't try and share fantasies with you people. I am sharing only real-life experiences, not day-dreams.

I met a woman who goes by the name Vy. The woman is older than your average 20-25 year old bimbo, and not as dumb. The lady is a 28 year old (checked), third-year top-grades business student in one of Saigon's premier universities (checked also). She speaks English of the kind you never heard from an escort in Vietnam. And, as she claims, English is the least of her oral capabilities. This I checked at first hand. Now, a decent BJ is for me a MUST, and a calibrator for things to come. Her technique is like nothing I've seen this side of the Pacific. More of a PSE than a GFE in this respect. Deepthroat, Tounge, teabagging, the works. Was the oral delight of my life.

Sex is as hot. She gets wet from nothing, is receptive, and most important. Genuine and authentic. No false sighs and screams, but real engagement and involvement that will get you running and hot. Her receptiveness, activeness, her total immersion in the act is an extra value that elevates the event. You just want to cum again and again and again. I am not young, and am not used to multi-orgasms. But with this woman, it just came naturally, as she is that hot.

So if you are looking for a real experience with a real woman, I couldn't recommend her more.

For reasons of privacy, those seeking her number and contact, you cam message me. I'll send it to you.

And do keep in mind:

1. She is a top of her class student. That means you sometimes need some patience for her to get back to you. Not your "come now" type.

2. She doesn't come cheap. I read some of the discussions here, I understand many here are after cheap finds. She is most definitely not one of those. At 200 USD / hour, 300/2 hours, she may sound steep for some. But the experience is in my opinion worth the extra. I ended up taking 2-3 150 USD / hour girls, trying to get off, and rest my body. This one is surely worth the difference.

Thanks for listening.

Jon.

Jon1967
01-02-19, 10:16
Hi to all,

I am not a regular participant here, merely a lurker. I am also not what you call a "monger". I am a serious man, looking for serious sex with as real GFE as possible. My standards are high, and demands are as high. And as much as I'm not out to splurge 500 USD / hour for a frigid "model", I am still looking out for hot-bodied, experienced woman I can have my way with. I also don't try and share fantasies with you people. I am sharing only real-life experiences, not day-dreams.Got the opportunity to upload some more pictures.

Shadyhaze2018
01-05-19, 17:09
So I have been here for 2 weeks.

I have spoken to a few girls to check out local prices. All of them are asking for at the very least 1-1. 5 million for a short time. I mean I know it is not that expensive compared to places like Australia, Japan or Korea. But considering it is a stones throw away from Thailand where I can usually pick up various, good looking and young girls for 1000 baht I find it kind of ridiculous. On top of that the ones asking for this kind of money are definitely not the best looking girls.

I also got a blowie from one of those hot toc places and the girl that I had was really. I mean really horrible at what she was doing. It was rushed, cold and just not an enjoyable experience. She actually hurt me and I did not even end up blowing.

I found Kynu.net and shot off a few messages asking if they speak English,. With very few replies,. (some replies just being an address of a hotel without even giving me a price range) Some of them that were listed as 400 k quoted me at 1 million again. I had one quote me at 300 k but she was quite a large and older looking girl (which is kinda what I would expect to be the norm).

I had 1 girl from Tantan come around who quoted 1 million that looked pretty decent in the picture. When she arrived she was an old haggard bird easily in her late 40's and clearly using a fake picture,. So I turned her back at the door.

I have heard from a few sources that the freelancers in Bui Vien will also quote at the very least 1 million and most of the time more, but I am assuming they at least look half decent.

On top of this if you politely turn them down quite a few of them get really nasty and start abusing ya.

I know what your going to say. 1 million is not that much. And you are right. But all the girls I have met asking for this price so far are old and nasty. If they were in their 20's or even early 30's and did not look too bad I would not really have a complaint.

So my question is this. Am I missing something here? I hear from a few people saying its good mongering here in HCM. But so far I have not seen anything to support that at all.

Any tips of advice would be greatly appreciated.

FlyingSamurai
01-09-19, 08:19
Well, the best girls in Vietnam are down in KL, Seoul and even Jakarta. Viet girls are similar to Viet Cong, among the most mercenary. I've never had great service in Vietnam, there is always something that they complain about. In summary, they want the money but they hate their job. And want to trick you. Some girls in Pham Ngu Lao are beautiful but it's a hit or miss. Just stop the bicycle guy that rings a bell around PNL, it's the sign for massage and tell him what you want. I've always had OK experiences with them. Just don't take all the money with you and use another hotel room, usually they will provide and it's included in price. For 1 mil you should get a nice girl. Otherwise it's not worth it.


So I have been here for 2 weeks.

Any tips of advice would be greatly appreciated.

Bertyru55
01-11-19, 03:46
Went there the other night, not many girls. Was chatted up be a petite, friendly girl with okay attitude. After using one of her hands to try to get my interest up, she asked to go upstairs for BJ. I asked how much, and she said 1.5 m. Because I was only willing to pay about a third of that at best (based on advice on this forum and my own experience), I was turned off and didn't bother counter offering. She went to 1.2 m, and then, "how much are you willing to pay?" I know what would follow if I gave her my bottom line: extreme disappointment (feigned? Followed by reluctant (feigned) acceptance. This routine is too much of a turn off for me, and I generally lose interest. I gave $100 k tip in appreciation for the hand placement, hers and mine, bought a lady drink, and said "adios. " Thoughts?

Gennai
01-14-19, 04:58
Check the prices, you spoil them. I don't speak any vietnamese but with google translate you can easily find many many vietnamese sites that advertise and post experiences about working girls. There are also sticky threads explaining how the deed is done.

The rest is up to you, use your brains to figure out slang. E. g. Ks stands for kach san hotel (mostly hourly), p stands for minute (s) etc.

I'm a first timer in VN and I just arrived here in hoi an and all these tourists are ruining the prices dramatically, not just those of the girls, which you can forget in tourist cities. Way too overpriced IMO.

And yes I'm sure you can't get a PI or TH experience here, but touristically there is a lot more to see here.

1 shot starts with 300 k.

Bertyru55
01-14-19, 06:27
Check the prices, you spoil them. I don't speak any vietnamese but with google translate you can easily find many many vietnamese sites that advertise and post experiences about working girls. There are also sticky threads explaining how the deed is done.

The rest is up to you, use your brains to figure out slang. E. g. Ks stands for kach san hotel (mostly hourly), p stands for minute (s) etc.

I'm a first timer in VN and I just arrived here in hoi an and all these tourists are ruining the prices dramatically, not just those of the girls, which you can forget in tourist cities. Way too overpriced IMO.

And yes I'm sure you can't get a PI or TH experience here, but touristically there is a lot more to see here.

1 shot starts with 300 k.The only $ that changed hands was 100 k vnd. I see my post was not clear. I definitely did not give US $100.

Pointy Stick
01-14-19, 08:17
Just stop the bicycle guy that rings a bell around PNL, it's the sign for massage and tell him what you want. Wait. I thought that dude was slinging weed when he was really pimping? FFS.

Rick Rock
01-15-19, 09:58
Wait. I thought that dude was slinging weed when he was really pimping? FFS.He was pimping himself.

'If you are staying along Bui Vien or De Tham Street, you will definitely see this "Massage Boy" on bicycles. They are riding bicycles to make hundreds of rounds at backpacker areas to find customers. They come with a unique tool to attract tourist attention by putting some steel bottle covers together and make it as a signal ringer. Their target customers are mostly gay tourist or some gay friendly straight men that are curious about their services. They normally offer massage services in customer's hotel room besides offering sex services. The price for this service can starts from VND200,000 up to VND1,000,000 depends on type of services. There are some robbery cases reported by tourist who are using this services which end up with loosing money, camera, Ipad and many other valuable items. ".

http://thevietnamguide.com/tvg/prostitution-in-pham-ngu-lao-a-never-ending-story-of-backpacker-area/

Rick Rock
01-15-19, 10:06
So I have been here for 2 weeks.

Any tips of advice would be greatly appreciated.If you stay on Bui Vien or another tourist area, speak no Viet at all, and don't know the prices, you will most likely get bad service at high prices. There is lots of prostitution in HCMC, but it's mainly for local Vietnamese guys. They will all accept you as a customer, but no one is going to hold your hand.

Even if you are a Viet Khieu or Viet from out of town, you will get overcharged if you don't know the prices. That even goes for basic stuff like buying food and clothes in local markets. That's just how it goes in Vietnam.

If you do some research, look around a bit, make some local friends, pick up a few words, leave the tourist ghetto, and get some info, you will find that you can get great service from some of the best looking women in Asia for very low prices.

At hot toc goi dau that aren't over run with western white knights, expect to pay 150000 dong for a good BBJCIM complete with rimming and body massage. You can get a BBBJ and sex with very hot 19-25 years olds for 350,000. You won't find any of this at Bui Vien, Pham Ngu Lao, Liberty 4, or Apocalypse Now. You have to go get it. Google in Vietnamese. It really isn't that hard.

Don't expect anyone who knows to post much about it here either. When it has been done in the past, we've seen services go down and prices go up as much as 400% in a year due to tourists overpaying and accepting whatever they get.

Banana Boi
01-15-19, 12:30
Well, the best girls in Vietnam are down in KL, Seoul and even Jakarta. I certainly hope the best Vietnamese girls aren't in KL because the Viet quality in KL is not that good. Will cut my trip to HCM short if the Viet girls are worst in HCM than in KL.

Where are the Viet girls in Jakarta? I've never seen one.

Rick Rock
01-16-19, 02:26
I certainly hope the best Vietnamese girls aren't in KL because the Viet quality in KL is not that good. Will cut my trip to HCM short if the Viet girls are worst in HCM than in KL.Don't worry, they're not. Not even close.

You might argue that there are a lot of hot Viet prostitutes in Macau. Not Malaysia. KL mostly gets the older ones. When people say KL is the best place for Vietnamese, they usually mean its the easiest place for a western guy to walk in and grab a Viet woman for sex without any research or work.

Jsxyz
01-19-19, 07:32
Don't worry, they're not. Not even close.

You might argue that there are a lot of hot Viet prostitutes in Macau. Not Malaysia. KL mostly gets the older ones. When people say KL is the best place for Vietnamese, they usually mean its the easiest place for a western guy to walk in and grab a Viet woman for sex without any research or work.Having spent plenty of time in Singapore, HCMC, Shanghai, and Hong Kong, I'd rank them #1 Shanghai (Judy's / Manhattan Bar), #2 HCMC (Apocalypse / Go2 Bar. Yes yes, expensive, etc. Etc. Whatever), #3 Singapore, and a distant #4 Hong Kong. Hong Kong probably shouldn't even be on the list anymore because the last time I met a VN girl there was probably 2014 or 2015.

Purple Porkchop
01-20-19, 00:22
Arrive 1/21 and wonder if girls will work for US $?

I didn't see any comments on this in any Vietnam threads.

Thanks,

P Chop.

PedroMorales
01-20-19, 01:18
Arrive 1/21 and wonder if girls will work for US $? I didn't see any comments on this in any Vietnam threads. Thanks.You are in Vietnam not Vermont. If you use $US, you jack up the prices big time for yourself. When Asian vendors quote US $ to me, I immediately walk away and so should you.

MutantChicken
01-20-19, 06:52
Arrive 1/21 and wonder if girls will work for US $?

I didn't see any comments on this in any Vietnam threads.

Thanks,

P Chop.Sure they will but they will give you below market exchange rates, thus rather than paying for example 1 mill you end up paying 1. 159 mill, then as you are clearly so careless about money matters they will hit you up for lucky money, taxi money, tips, plus given you are such a newbie, they probably would have given the most basic of service.

Rick Rock
01-21-19, 03:36
You are in Vietnam not Vermont. If you use $US, you jack up the prices big time for yourself. When Asian vendors quote US $ to me, I immediately walk away and so should you.In Vietnam yes. Next door in Cambodia no. Riel is pegged to the dollar and not used in the cities for anything expensive. No one wants to carry around a suitcase of cash to buy a pair of shoes.

Just change your dollars for Dong at a gold shop in Vietnam. In Cambodia, keep your dollars. Or get more, because every ATM machine dispenses them.

Rick Rock
01-21-19, 03:39
Having spent plenty of time in Singapore, HCMC, Shanghai, and Hong Kong, I'd rank them #1 Shanghai (Judy's / Manhattan Bar), #2 HCMC (Apocalypse / Go2 Bar. Yes yes, expensive, etc. Etc. Whatever), #3 Singapore, and a distant #4 Hong Kong. Hong Kong probably shouldn't even be on the list anymore because the last time I met a VN girl there was probably 2014 or 2015.In my experience these are all older women that can't make much money in Vietnam. That's why they go on the road to fleece white guys. None of them compare to the average hooker available to Vietnamese guys via Thienda for about 1/8 the price.

Banana Boi
01-21-19, 20:26
Hit the jewelry stores near the market and you will nearly get dollar for dollar for usd. Just Google where to get best money exchange.

David Cohen
01-24-19, 03:33
Hit the jewelry stores near the market and you will nearly get dollar for dollar for usd. Just Google where to get best money exchange.Be very careful, exchange currency at Jewelry stores are illegal, and you may get caught and slap with huge fine.

Not long ago, a local Vietnamese guy exchanged his $100 USD at local Jewelry store and was caught and fined $4000. https://www.bbc.com/vietnamese/vietnam-45949037.

It is not worth the risk, just exchange it at the banks, a bit cheaper but unless you are exchanges ten of thousands dollars, won't be much.

Rick Rock
01-25-19, 01:18
Be very careful, exchange currency at Jewelry stores are illegal, and you may get caught and slap with huge fine.

Not long ago, a local Vietnamese guy exchanged his $100 USD at local Jewelry store and was caught and fined $4000. https://www.bbc.com/vietnamese/vietnam-45949037.

It is not worth the risk, just exchange it at the banks, a bit cheaper but unless you are exchanges ten of thousands dollars, won't be much.Prostitution is also illegal in Vietnam. Yet here we are.

Jsxyz
01-26-19, 15:57
In my experience these are all older women that can't make much money in Vietnam. That's why they go on the road to fleece white guys. None of them compare to the average hooker available to Vietnamese guys via Thienda for about 1/8 the price.Apparently you haven't been to Shanghai or Singapore lately. That's 100% opposite my experience! In fact there are more / easier hot young Viet options for easy picking in either location than there are in HCMC. I'm not talking about massage girls, hot toc girls, etc. , but rather about young, pretty girls who dress up and speak English.

YMMV, I guess.

Rick Rock
01-27-19, 03:59
Apparently you haven't been to Shanghai or Singapore lately. That's 100% opposite my experience! In fact there are more / easier hot young Viet options for easy picking in either location than there are in HCMC. I'm not talking about massage girls, hot toc girls, etc. , but rather about young, pretty girls who dress up and speak English.

YMMV, I guess.Been to both regularly over the last 10 years. All I see are women 25 and up, usually over 30, charging $100 USD or more for short time sex. Most are lower quality than the ones in the $20 brothels in HCMC. In my experience, speaking English is typically a sign that they're worn out hookers that have fucked hundreds of old white men who paid way too much.

Have you used Thienda or similar? Lots of women 18-25 there. Prices start at $13.

Two weeks ago I paid $17.33 for sex with a 19 year old university student in HCMC. She didn't speak any English at all.

YMMV.

Gunners1
01-27-19, 04:22
At rick rock please clear your inbox.


Been to both regularly over the last 10 years. All I see are women 25 and up, usually over 30, charging $100 USD or more for short time sex. Most are lower quality than the ones in the $20 brothels in HCMC. In my experience, speaking English is typically a sign that they're worn out hookers that have fucked hundreds of old white men who paid way too much.

Have you used Thienda or similar? Lots of women 18-25 there. Prices start at $13.

Two weeks ago I paid $17.33 for sex with a 19 year old university student in HCMC. She didn't speak any English at all.

YMMV.

Jsxyz
01-27-19, 14:28
Been to both regularly over the last 10 years. All I see are women 25 and up, usually over 30, charging $100 USD or more for short time sex. Most are lower quality than the ones in the $20 brothels in HCMC. In my experience, speaking English is typically a sign that they're worn out hookers that have fucked hundreds of old white men who paid way too much.

Have you used Thienda or similar? Lots of women 18-25 there. Prices start at $13.

Two weeks ago I paid $17.33 for sex with a 19 year old university student in HCMC. She didn't speak any English at all.

YMMV.Different strokes, different folks. I generally have zero interest in young girls - 30-40 is my sweet spot. So a 19 year old University student with zero English isn't appealing at all to me. I'll happily pay $100+ for a lady a bit older, wiser, and with whom I can actually converse and make a bit more of a connection.

I should also mention that I'm a drinker, so I love a bar scene like Manhattan in Shanghai or Brix in Singapore. Heck I'm even a sucker for Apocalypse in HCMC, even though it's a mere shadow of what it was even a few years ago.

Rick Rock
01-28-19, 01:57
Different strokes, different folks. I generally have zero interest in young girls - 30-40 is my sweet spot. So a 19 year old University student with zero English isn't appealing at all to me. I'll happily pay $100+ for a lady a bit older, wiser, and with whom I can actually converse and make a bit more of a connection.

I should also mention that I'm a drinker, so I love a bar scene like Manhattan in Shanghai or Brix in Singapore. Heck I'm even a sucker for Apocalypse in HCMC, even though it's a mere shadow of what it was even a few years ago.Yea who is interested in 19 year olds with perfect bodies? LOL.

I go to hookers to have sex. I make connections with people I'm in non-financial relationships with. I drink with my friends. As I've said many times here, Asians are good are understanding the difference between paid services and personal relationships. This is why they typically pay less and get better looking women and superior service.

When my grandmother died, my grandfather was in his late 70's. A year later, he had a girlfriend in her forties. Never gave her a penny. A "good looking" woman over age 25 doesn't have the same value as a man in his 70's with a house and a car. In Chinese, unmarried women over age 25 are called "leftover women. " In the West, culture has become so skewed and perverted that there are even young men chasing these old used up women as "cougars" or "MILFs".

I wouldn't fuck a woman "30-40" even for free.

And here you are paying for it.

It helps explain how these places stay open and profitable at least.

Enjoy yourself.

Jsxyz
01-28-19, 14:30
Yea who is interested in 19 year olds with perfect bodies? LOL.

I go to hookers to have sex. I make connections with people I'm in non-financial relationships with. I drink with my friends. As I've said many times here, Asians are good are understanding the difference between paid services and personal relationships. This is why they typically pay less and get better looking women and superior service.

When my grandmother died, my grandfather was in his late 70's. A year later, he had a girlfriend in her forties. Never gave her a penny. A "good looking" woman over age 25 doesn't have the same value as a man in his 70's with a house and a car. In Chinese, unmarried women over age 25 are called "leftover women. " In the West, culture has become so skewed and perverted that there are even young men chasing these old used up women as "cougars" or "MILFs".

I wouldn't fuck a woman "30-40" even for free.

And here you are paying for it.

It helps explain how these places stay open and profitable at least.

Enjoy yourself.Ease off, dude. And enjoy yourself too.

Chacal60
01-30-19, 02:41
She's a bit desperate because everyone has left the city during Tet. I told her I'the send up a flare wih my "friends". PM for her contacts. 800 k is her ask, and she's worth it.

Marky1
02-02-19, 07:18
Yea who is interested in 19 year olds with perfect bodies? LOL.

I go to hookers to have sex. I make connections with people I'm in non-financial relationships with. I drink with my friends. As I've said many times here, Asians are good are understanding the difference between paid services and personal relationships. This is why they typically pay less and get better looking women and superior service.

When my grandmother died, my grandfather was in his late 70's. A year later, he had a girlfriend in her forties. Never gave her a penny. A "good looking" woman over age 25 doesn't have the same value as a man in his 70's with a house and a car. In Chinese, unmarried women over age 25 are called "leftover women. " In the West, culture has become so skewed and perverted that there are even young men chasing these old used up women as "cougars" or "MILFs".

I wouldn't fuck a woman "30-40" even for free.

And here you are paying for it.

It helps explain how these places stay open and profitable at least.

Enjoy yourself.I don't need to travel to fuck women 35+. I can stay home and find one that goes to the gym, has a decent job, can support herself. A woman 35+ in south-east Asia you need to financially support (as well as extended family), no real career prospects, Jollibees body, nothing to talk about.

Jsxyz
02-03-19, 02:10
I don't need to travel to fuck women 35+. I can stay home and find one that goes to the gym, has a decent job, can support herself. A woman 35+ in south-east Asia you need to financially support (as well as extended family), no real career prospects, Jollibees body, nothing to talk about.I don't either, FYI. But I'm married and have a pretty wide life and social circle at home, so travelling allows me about a million extra layers of privacy and discretion than playing at home does.

As to who I like to fuck, that's just a stupid debate. Everyone has preferences, I'll fuck who I want and pay them what I want. Don't judge my preferences and decisions, and I won't judge yours. Think of it this way: we're not competing for the same talent, or even swimming in the same pool, so in a way you, me, and Rick Rock are allies!

MutantChicken
02-11-19, 16:43
She's a bit desperate because everyone has left the city during Tet. I told her I'the send up a flare wih my "friends". PM for her contacts. 800 k is her ask, and she's worth it.Why pay 800 k for linh when I can pay 300 k for this gem.

Goferring
02-11-19, 20:25
Why pay 800 k for linh when I can pay 300 k for this gem.I'm assuming the 800 is for a relaxed LT where as the 300 is for a 30 min quickly. . . . ?

Purple Porkchop
02-13-19, 01:00
Arrive 1/21 and wonder if girls will work for US $?

I didn't see any comments on this in any Vietnam threads.

Thanks,

P Chop.Not saying there is a black market in Vietnam, but was kind of wondering if the ladies would take $ knowing they would get a better exchange rate some where else. Therefore get a better deal.

Call me stupid.

P Chop.

NguyetLang
02-13-19, 05:05
Not saying there is a black market in Vietnam, but was kind of wondering if the ladies would take $ knowing they would get a better exchange rate some where else. Therefore get a better deal.

Call me stupid.

P Chop.Most girls will gladly take your USD, just make sure to agree on USD price, don't rely on the exchange rate, the girls will give you the rate she wants, you may end up with "rounding rate" like 1 USD = 20 k VND, not the market 23 k.

Good luck,

Fun Luvr
02-15-19, 04:13
While looking for hotels on TripAdvisor, I found Novia Hotel at 22 Nguyen Dinh Chieu, Ward 3, Phu Nhuan District. It says it is a love hotel. It is only $16 a day and the the rooms look very nice in the pictures. Does anyone know anything about it? I figure if it is a love hotel, there should be no problem bringing in ladies at any hour.

Albert9989
02-15-19, 14:27
While looking for hotels on TripAdvisor, I found Novia Hotel at 22 Nguyen Dinh Chieu, Ward 3, Phu Nhuan District. It says it is a love hotel. It is only $16 a day and the the rooms look very nice in the pictures. Does anyone know anything about it? I figure if it is a love hotel, there should be no problem bringing in ladies at any hour.Interesting, only one pic in tripadvisor but you can see many pictures on booking.com here.

https://www.booking.com/hotel/vn/novia-phu-nhuan.fr.html?aid=356980;label=gog235jc-1DCAso9AFCD25vdmlhLXBodS1uaHVhbkgNWANoTYgBAZgBDbgBF8gBDNgBA-gBAfgBAogCAagCAw;sid=6e4813d14e0ee0a56f17123dd60d7c06;all_sr_blocks=403250302_127923210_2_0_0;checkin=2019-02-28;checkout=2019-03-01;dest_id=-3730078;dest_type=city;dist=0;group_adults=2;hapos=1;highlighted_blocks=403250302_127923210_2_0_0;hpos=1;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;sr_order=popularity;srepoch=1550236968;srpvid=64825e1337e800c1;type=total;ucfs=1&#tab-reviews.

Funny thing is to read the comments.

But could be a good cheap option!

Snook
03-10-19, 20:32
Are there any areas that ladies work the streets in Saigon? I know there are massage places but also would like to window shop also.

Happy hunting.

Snook.

Manfield04
03-10-19, 21:04
Just behind New World Saigon hotel, there is a park where you can find street walkers. You will also find them near Ben Thanh market.


Are there any areas that ladies work the streets in Saigon? I know there are massage places but also would like to window shop also. Happy hunting. Snook.

Geneva Guy
03-23-19, 01:53
I just spent a week in HCMC. Wechat was very active, girls look good (pics maybe not always real hehe). $60/ HR or $120/ all night, you can get them down 25-30% on the cost.

Just get online and they will start messaging you. I didn't partake cause I have a long term sweetie here. But they are there.

GG.

Ex In Nang
03-26-19, 12:00
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SoloTravels
03-29-19, 06:11
Why pay 800 k for linh when I can pay 300 k for this gem.Can you share her contact.

XyzMan29
03-31-19, 15:50
Why pay 800 k for linh when I can pay 300 k for this gem.She's gorgeous. What was Xinh like?

Rockbottomcafe
04-02-19, 23:15
Good day,

In doing some research for some hobbying activities for when I visit next week, I came across this site and figured I'the ask for some general advice. I assume and kind of confirmed by reading that the scene isn't typical like bkk which is fine. My plan is to do sight seeing stuff, foodie type of things during the day and then change into my alter ego at night and go search for some ladies of the night. I've gathered the buy me drink me options, but I'm kind of opposed to waiting for a girl to get off shift at 3 am or whatever. And I prefer not to go to a park and pick someone off the street. Does anybody have any recommendations for night clubs that have FL, that I could buy a bottle or two and have a bouncer help out or does this not work out there as well? What about normal bars / lounges, are there hot working girls that you may recommend one bar over the other too? I also downloaded Zalo as well and figure I can search and see what pops up in my area at the time there and try to fish that way but from what I hear English is a tough barrier mostly. Well thanks for your time and look forward to any feedback. Pretty excited to visit for my first time. Think it's going to be a blast.

Gunners1
04-03-19, 02:23
Please read my report it gives a pretty good status on the mongering scene.

G.


Good day,

In doing some research for some hobbying activities for when I visit next week, I came across this site and figured I'the ask for some general advice. I assume and kind of confirmed by reading that the scene isn't typical like bkk which is fine. My plan is to do sight seeing stuff, foodie type of things during the day and then change into my alter ego at night and go search for some ladies of the night. I've gathered the buy me drink me options, but I'm kind of opposed to waiting for a girl to get off shift at 3 am or whatever. And I prefer not to go to a park and pick someone off the street. Does anybody have any recommendations for night clubs that have FL, that I could buy a bottle or two and have a bouncer help out or does this not work out there as well? What about normal bars / lounges, are there hot working girls that you may recommend one bar over the other too? I also downloaded Zalo as well and figure I can search and see what pops up in my area at the time there and try to fish that way but from what I hear English is a tough barrier mostly. Well thanks for your time and look forward to any feedback. Pretty excited to visit for my first time. Think it's going to be a blast.

Rockbottomcafe
04-03-19, 02:43
Please read my report it gives a pretty good status on the mongering scene.

G.Thanks brother. Great reads. Read both, pretty much spot on and read how my thought process actually wis going in. I think I'm going to do the various apps like you mentioned and try to meet up for happy hour or dinner and clubs and see what happens. Worst case, BKK is a week after, so can catch up with my nonsense then LOL.

Directwed
04-05-19, 07:33
Why pay 800 k for linh when I can pay 300 k for this gem.Wooooo nice girl can you share the contact boss?

Fredrick SG
04-06-19, 05:20
I've had some success sitting downstairs at the front part of a newish rooftop bar on 38 Huynh Thuc Khang Street just off Pasteur bar area in D1 (forgot the name), stopped there one afternoon for late lunch and beer then after throwing out a few friendly smiles I ended up chatting to a striking young office lass who was walking past. Exchanged numbers and met again a day later to do the deed. Thought it was a one in a million chance, but happened twice in a short time, must have been a lucky chair or my fat wallet! Never tried on a weekend.


Good day,

In doing some research for some hobbying activities for when I visit next week, I came across this site and figured I'the ask for some general advice. I assume and kind of confirmed by reading that the scene isn't typical like bkk which is fine. My plan is to do sight seeing stuff, foodie type of things during the day and then change into my alter ego at night and go search for some ladies of the night. I've gathered the buy me drink me options, but I'm kind of opposed to waiting for a girl to get off shift at 3 am or whatever. And I prefer not to go to a park and pick someone off the street. Does anybody have any recommendations for night clubs that have FL, that I could buy a bottle or two and have a bouncer help out or does this not work out there as well? What about normal bars / lounges, are there hot working girls that you may recommend one bar over the other too? I also downloaded Zalo as well and figure I can search and see what pops up in my area at the time there and try to fish that way but from what I hear English is a tough barrier mostly. Well thanks for your time and look forward to any feedback. Pretty excited to visit for my first time. Think it's going to be a blast.

Steve W
04-10-19, 19:18
I just got the digits of a Viet free lancer that I had a really positive experience with outside of Vietnam. Rarely do you get a good blend of looks, great massage and good service in an affordable package. It's the combination of all three that makes her a chart topper. Happy to share contact via PM. I'm not going to make use of her services as I'm unlikely to be in Saigon any time soon. Cheers, SW.

Nomes2015
04-12-19, 08:14
I just got the digits of a Viet free lancer that I had a really positive experience with outside of Vietnam. Rarely do you get a good blend of looks, great massage and good service in an affordable package. It's the combination of all three that makes her a chart topper. Happy to share contact via PM. I'm not going to make use of her services as I'm unlikely to be in Saigon any time soon. Cheers, SW.Would love to have her details please Steve W. Thanks.

Tsfh14
04-12-19, 11:59
I want to echo what Fredrick SG wrote a few posts below me--had the most fun / luck just meeting random normal people.

I went to a massage place in Tan Phong, a few min south of the main city. Was 400 k entrance fee, got to choose out of a lineup. Girl gave a lazy massage for 5 minutes then asked for 1 m tip for FS. CBJ, CFS. Nothing overly special or exciting, but it did the trick. Would not repeat just due to distance and price. Girl was maybe a 6-7/10 and friendly enough but meh.

I also tried 111 b (or something like that on NPK--chose out of a lineup and after the usual patdown with wipe, she began a BBBJCIM with no complaints. I walked in confidently and pretended it wasn't my first time in a hot toc and seemed to work out well. I thought about just slappin down 300 k as I walked out but ultimately just gave 350 as a compromise--my understanding is 400 k is the norm on NPK. Before anyone could complain or protest, I just walked out quickly to avoid any hassle.

I tried WeChat / Line and they were blowin' up but I could not be bothered trying to sift thru everyone. I did match with a 27 why / o office girl on Tinder who spoke excellent English and we had dinner, drinks and hung out. She tried to play the whole "don't want to hook up the first night and take things slow" routine but we came back to my hotel regardless LOL. She did go home as she had to work the day after but that suited me fine--I prefer to have the bed alone. She told me to hit her up if I was ever back in VN and said she preferred foreigners LOL.

Overall, had a good time in HCMC even with the ridiculous heat. Thanks to everyone on this forum for the useful info--lots to sift through but lots of good info.

Mvpmvp0
04-15-19, 10:19
Just got back to sg. My WeChat isn't working and I remember there was a massage at home place that seemed legit. Think it ran from binh thanh. Anyone got any leads?

Eboniman
04-16-19, 04:50
Really enjoyed my first trip to HCMC. Will definitely return. I'll just share info as it panned out for me. Some instances I played newbie to see what would happen. Other times I for real didn't know how a place worked.

Dai Nam Hotel: showed up here about 1 am I think. Kinda a maze to get to the massage spot but the desk guy will direct you. Pick a service from the list. The one I chose was 290 k. I can't remember if this was the cheapest or not. This was non VIP and those were double the price and more. Locker room, keep cash and phone in the little shower bag they give you. So anyway, locker room, shower, lounging area where they give you water and a plate of fruit. A guy offers foot massage which I decline. They take me to massage room and a girl showed up. I wasn't offered a chance to pick. Massage and on the flip she goes right to HJ. Dang that feels pretty nice. She asks how much you tip? I say 300 k. She says that's too low. But she doesn't stop HJ. I told her I could possible give more depending on how well she took care of me. Was taking me longer to finish so she goes back and forth from HJ and BBBJ. Gave her 600 k after she allowed CIM.

Hai Son Hotel: walk into the hotel lobby, take the elevator (on your left) to the 6th floor. I had a line up of (only 3 girls). I chose the youngest and most attractive to me. Can't remember if I paid before or after session (300 k). Anyway after choosing girl I'm taken to locker room to undress. All my stuff in the locker but kept my cash with me. Shower and a guy leads me downstairs to a private room. 5 minutes later my chosen girl shows up. Decent massage and on the flip the negotiation starts. She asks how much tip? I offer 300 k (equal to the price of massage). She wants 1 million (for FS). 700 K with HJ, BBBJ, DATY, FIV. I was kinda pissed because she kept stopping during the BJ. She said she was worried about CIM. Finally I guess she was like okay let me stop playing around and took care of business. Pretty, good skills but keep stopping. I suppose I'd return to this place but choose a different girl. Interesting enough, only 3 girls were in the line up but on my way out I noticed like 20 pairs of girls shoes outside the girls locker room.

MissSaigon bar: google maps is listing several of these with similar name. I'm talking about the bar on bui vien. Great spot to people watch, dance and drink. Good mix of working and nonworking girls. Ended up pulling a great looking girl next door type. 1. 2 million and she didn't say no to anything. Stayed about 2. 5 hours. She initially asked for 2 million.

Apocalypse Now: showed up here on a Sunday about 9:30. Completely dead, I thought it was closed. Doorman says its too early and come back after 11. I returned on a different night (after 11). Plenty of girls. The girls are prettier than I saw in other clubs / bars. Also seemed way more business like. Straight to the point. First couple ones I talked to wouldn't budge from 3 million. Never pulled anything from here. I just didn't want to pay that.

Vien Dong Hotel: I never got a massage here. Online the rooms looked nice and I was going to get a room. At the front desk I asked about guest policy. I was told the law says no guest. Booking a separate room for the girl was an option. I declined and did not get a room here.

(letter) see central hotel: stopped in to look at the rooms. At $20, they look great. The guy says they are extremely loud at night. He said no guests are "admitted" after 10 pm. My thought was if your hotel is non guest friendly taking the girl here would be an option. After the session you can return to your regular hotel for a good / quiet nights sleep.

Hot Toc: there are 3 right next to each other at 48,40 and 32 Nguyen see you trinh. These are directly across the street from pullman Saigon centre hotel. I found them just walking around. Didn't try because I sweaty and didn't feel comfortable. After shower I returned and they were closed. I want to say it was about 10 pm.

Massage shops: like Thailand, massage shops are up and down every street. Girls will stop you and say anything from 150 k to 300 k for an hour. Depending on starting price I was able to leave happy for total 500 k. Never more than 600 k with BBBJ.

For free is available. I was approached by several girls. (shop owners, servers, etc) I didn't monger as much as I maybe wouldn't have trying to seal the deal with them. Several visits and right when I was leaving they all came around and was ready to do something. I never say my true leaving date. Sometimes this hurts and / or helps me. Normal girls may slow their pace thinking they have more time. Working girls give better service thinking they could have a repeat customer.

Didn't make it to Bennys or the further outlying spots that are supposed to be less expensive. I'll have to read more to get a better understanding of locations and abbreviations this forum uses.

Jingo10
04-30-19, 00:59
If you've never been to the Japanese street are (off LE thanh ton, search for Japanese street) its an interesting place to pass an hour or two, many bars, restos and spas in a small area, had some great food.

You get accosted by all the girls outside the many spas which is interesting in itself. 60 minutes is about 300-400 vnd. I cannot remember the name of the one I went in. It was 350 for 60 minutes, I was told I could choose a girl but they allocated one but it was the one I would have chosen. She gave a quick wash down in the bath tub washing your man bits in the process, followed by an OK massage which surprised me. She offered a BJ for 1. 5 million LOL which after very lengthy negotiations came down to 600. But this must have taken 15 minutes, but she is playing with your cock but it did get boring and I was losing interest. Finally after agreeing the 600 she told me I had to pay upfront, her English wasn't great so I told her I would pay at the end but she would not have that, eventually I got totally fed up got off the bed and got dressed (think she was shocked) and told her I was leaving. I did get the full hour.

Although a poor experience in the end the area is really worth visiting just to have a look and a drink.

On my way home I thought I would try smileys bar which I saw on the monger map from the forum. Girl 1 comes over and straight away asks for a lady drink which I decline. Girl 2 comes over and starts rubbing my cock and offers to take me upstairs for 1.5 million (saying 500 for the bar 1 M for her) and I decline, girl 3 comes over and has her hand up my shorts playing with my cock and offers the same deal as girl 2.

I did try apocalypse now last night, beer is 140 VND, girls asking 150 USD short time 250 USD all night, one girl offered 100 USD but I declined.

I've just come from manila where I was picking up decent girls in La Cafe for 25 USD short time and getting freebies, I am not sure why its so expensive here.

BinhThanh
05-02-19, 19:49
If you've never been to the Japanese street are (off LE thanh ton, search for Japanese street) its an interesting place to pass an hour or two, many bars, restos and spas in a small area, had some great food.

You get accosted by all the girls outside the many spas which is interesting in itself. 60 minutes is about 300-400 vnd. I cannot remember the name of the one I went in. It was 350 for 60 minutes, I was told I could choose a girl but they allocated one but it was the one I would have chosen. She gave a quick wash down in the bath tub washing your man bits in the process, followed by an OK massage which surprised me. She offered a BJ for 1. 5 million LOL which after very lengthy negotiations came down to 600. But this must have taken 15 minutes, but she is playing with your cock but it did get boring and I was losing interest. Finally after agreeing the 600 she told me I had to pay upfront, her English wasn't great so I told her I would pay at the end but she would not have that, eventually I got totally fed up got off the bed and got dressed (think she was shocked) and told her I was leaving. I did get the full hour.

Although a poor experience in the end the area is really worth visiting just to have a look and a drink..I don't know either, even Bangkok HC Sukhumvit prices are lower than this. I mean come on, for a 2 hour massage, with everything and FS included you pay 3 k BAHT and that is 100 USD.

I think Viet freelancers in bars are used to the constant wave of pensioners who don't care at all, they have to have their weekly rub.

Buksida1
05-17-19, 01:58
I misfiled last report under HCMC massage. Pretty Tagged office lady from previous night arrives at my hotel 40 minutes late. She had taken evening clothes to work with her and was late because she was organizing herself! Lovely makeup, high heels and a gold Cambodia skirt with a white top showing her midriff. Stunning!! Show her off in the lounge where she has tea only. A quick stop in the hotel room to test her willingness and after last night, she is totally GFE. A delicious seafood dinner, which she demurely, separates the shell from the lobster and we are ready for business. Immediate responses to my kissing and soon the panties are removed. She is pouring moisture which I am happy to lap up. Her moans and cries while I eat her are thrilling. A few positions later and we are satisfied. I am a walking advocate of Tagged as it has worked for both HCMC trips. There are very pretty, lonely VN ladies who are more than willing to show their gratitude to us wandering mongers.

BeefSteak
06-03-19, 04:52
Good day,

I will be going to HCMC for a few days soon.

And I'm looking for a female companion who can accompany me for a few days and also be my tour guide.

Anyone knows any contacts or where to find girls who provide such services?

Amanut
06-04-19, 18:12
I have a couple. Shoot me a PM and I will see if I can help you out.


Good day,

I will be going to HCMC for a few days soon.

And I'm looking for a female companion who can accompany me for a few days and also be my tour guide.

Anyone knows any contacts or where to find girls who provide such services?

ScubaDo
06-10-19, 12:53
Have been to Pattaya and Angeles City a lot, I'm looking for some bars like those. I've read that Smiley's is one such. Can anybody help me with other such bar recommendations? This will be my first time to HCMC, in a couple of weeks.

Also looking for the hugging cafes, bia om / cafe om. I did find some names by some internet research but they are not in District 1 where I plan to be.

Thanks!

Asian Lover Oz
06-14-19, 13:33
Just be careful following the guys on Bui Vien offering girls. I've tried this in the past in many different countries and had no issues, but last week I had a bad experience. Was walking back to the Pullman and about 3/4 of the way along Bui Vien was approached and offered some girls in a nearby hotel. The hotel was actually just off Bui Vien, on Do Quang Dau St, lot of people around, not a shady back street or laneway. I went into the hotel sat in the lobby and they brought in 5 girls, pretty average for my standards so rejected them. 5 minutes later another 5 or 6 showed up and I was equally not interested in them. Told the guys thanks a lot maybe next time and got up and went to the front of the hotel to leave. They were saying stay and we'll show you more, but by that time I'd lost interest totally.

I got outside the hotel onto the footpath, and then the 2 guys physically blocked me from walking away. Now the main guy blocking me is short and I'm towering over him but he won't budge. I try to push past and can feel he's quite strong and he's getting loud and abusive saying I have to pay for their time. At first they say I own them US $20, I stay calm on the outside but my heart rate is increasing thinking of the options. I could make a run for it, but there are lots of guys hanging around on motobike, not sure if they are part of the same mafia or just innocent bystanders. I tried to motion to one of them to call the police but that didn't work either.

Tried putting on angry voice saying excuse me I'm leaving, but he got even more aggressive back at me.

Eventually negotiated the price down to $100 K and they let me leave. A lucky escape, not sure what would of happened if I had taken a girl. Maybe a similar threat at the end saying I owe $x more etc. Watch out, they may not all be like this, but in that area be careful.

Muzungufotsy
06-14-19, 14:34
Just be careful following the guys on Bui Vien offering girls. I've tried this in the past in many different countries and had no issues, but last week I had a bad experience. Was walking back to the Pullman and about 3/4 of the way along Bui Vien was approached and offered some girls in a nearby hotel. The hotel was actually just off Bui Vien, on Do Quang Dau St, lot of people around, not a shady back street or laneway. I went into the hotel sat in the lobby and they brought in 5 girls, pretty average for my standards so rejected them. 5 minutes later another 5 or 6 showed up and I was equally not interested in them. Told the guys thanks a lot maybe next time and got up and went to the front of the hotel to leave. They were saying stay and we'll show you more, but by that time I'd lost interest totally.

I got outside the hotel onto the footpath, and then the 2 guys physically blocked me from walking away. Now the main guy blocking me is short and I'm towering over him but he won't budge. I try to push past and can feel he's quite strong and he's getting loud and abusive saying I have to pay for their time. At first they say I own them US $20, I stay calm on the outside but my heart rate is increasing thinking of the options. I could make a run for it, but there are lots of guys hanging around on motobike, not sure if they are part of the same mafia or just innocent bystanders. I tried to motion to one of them to call the police but that didn't work either.

Tried putting on angry voice saying excuse me I'm leaving, but he got even more aggressive back at me.

Eventually negotiated the price down to $100 K and they let me leave. A lucky escape, not sure what would of happened if I had taken a girl. Maybe a similar threat at the end saying I owe $x more etc. Watch out, they may not all be like this, but in that area be careful.Very strange story. I walked this street before and was never been approached. And since you are in a lobby what can happen to you? Nothing. There is police everywhere in this area anyway.

What s the hotel s name?

I never use anybody to find girls in Vietnam. The only people who approached me on Bui Vien are these massage girls and these guys offering marijuana. I smile to the girls and say no thnks and I tell the guys to fuck off because I know everything on this street is a rip off.

PoohKeyLover
06-14-19, 17:57
Very strange story. I walked this street before and was never been approached. And since you are in a lobby what can happen to you? Nothing. There is police everywhere in this area anyway.

What s the hotel s name?

I never use anybody to find girls in Vietnam. The only people who approached me on Bui Vien are these massage girls and these guys offering marijuana. I smile to the girls and say no thnks and I tell the guys to fuck off because I know everything on this street is a rip off.I was also approached by these guys on the street offering me girls but I swiftly told them to fuck off.

Asian Lover Oz
06-15-19, 02:04
I checked google maps for the hotel name, but I think the photos are out of date. It was small Viet mini hotel, maybe 50 m down the street on the right hand side. On other visits I had gone with guys to check their girls out and didn't have this issue, in fact got a gem of a girl one time. Was taken by surprise as didn't see this coming at all. They didn't look like gangsters, in fact the guy that took me there said sorry afterwards.


Very strange story. I walked this street before and was never been approached. And since you are in a lobby what can happen to you? Nothing. There is police everywhere in this area anyway.

What s the hotel s name?

I never use anybody to find girls in Vietnam. The only people who approached me on Bui Vien are these massage girls and these guys offering marijuana. I smile to the girls and say no thnks and I tell the guys to fuck off because I know everything on this street is a rip off.

Gersangshial
06-16-19, 09:19
I have a couple. Shoot me a PM and I will see if I can help you out.Hi,

Could you share the girls contact. I'll be going to HCM next two weeks so looking for female companion. Thanks a lot.

Gersangshial
06-16-19, 09:21
I have a couple. Shoot me a PM and I will see if I can help you out.Mind sharing the contacts? Thanks a lot brother.

Banana Boi
06-17-19, 07:53
. At first they say I own them US $20, Not worth the hassle. I would have offered them 100 k take it or leave it and walked away. To me it would be a fair price of seeing the girls. Hopefully you didn't expect them to look like the photos they have. There's no need to do business with any of these guys. I actually get along very well with one of these guys and I still wouldn't trust him to show me one of his girls.


Could you share the girls contact. I'll be going to HCM next two weeks so looking for female companion.Walk around Walking Street and the side alleys. Girls everywhere in massage shops and bars. Otherwise go to one of the many massage places in the hotels. There is no need to ask for contact information on a girl.

XBoyX
06-17-19, 08:12
I was there in April and I got approached twice by those men on different nights to see the line up of girls. First night they took to a place look like a backyard of a sketchy massage place and waited there for few min as girls were showing up. They were all average so I left. No hard push or hassle. On the other night the guy (probably another guy as I don't remember because I was high), another average line up and there were some other potential customers there. I said thanks and I walked out. No hassle. By the way I'm a young guy in my 30's and at least my attitude doesn't show that I'm new to these scenes.


Just be careful following the guys on Bui Vien offering girls. I've tried this in the past in many different countries and had no issues, but last week I had a bad experience. Was walking back to the Pullman and about 3/4 of the way along Bui Vien was approached and offered some girls in a nearby hotel. The hotel was actually just off Bui Vien, on Do Quang Dau St, lot of people around, not a shady back street or laneway. I went into the hotel sat in the lobby and they brought in 5 girls, pretty average for my standards so rejected them. 5 minutes later another 5 or 6 showed up and I was equally not interested in them. Told the guys thanks a lot maybe next time and got up and went to the front of the hotel to leave. They were saying stay and we'll show you more, but by that time I'd lost interest totally.

I got outside the hotel onto the footpath, and then the 2 guys physically blocked me from walking away. Now the main guy blocking me is short and I'm towering over him but he won't budge..

TomSf
06-19-19, 12:49
Just be careful following the guys on Bui Vien offering girls. I've tried this in the past in many different countries and had no issues, but last week I had a bad experience. Was walking back to the Pullman and about 3/4 of the way along Bui Vien was approached and offered some girls in a nearby hotel. The hotel was actually just off Bui Vien, on Do Quang Dau St, lot of people around, not a shady back street or laneway. I went into the hotel sat in the lobby and they brought in 5 girls, pretty average for my standards so rejected them. 5 minutes later another 5 or 6 showed up and I was equally not interested in them. Told the guys thanks a lot maybe next time and got up and went to the front of the hotel to leave. They were saying stay and we'll show you more, but by that time I'd lost interest totally.

I got outside the hotel onto the footpath, and then the 2 guys physically blocked me from walking away. Now the main guy blocking me is short and I'm towering over him but he won't budge. I try to push past and can feel he's quite strong and he's getting loud and abusive saying I have to pay for their time. At first they say I own them US $20, I stay calm on the outside but my heart rate is increasing thinking of the options. I could make a run for it, but there are lots of guys hanging around on motobike, not sure if they are part of the same mafia or just innocent bystanders. I tried to motion to one of them to call the police but that didn't work either..Asian lover,

This is a very good post to remind people of the mindset out there of locals. This one is your own fault. No one will help you for free. I don't care how much they smile and how much they want to show you a place. They all expect payment. You never mentioned any countries that you say people took you to these places for free. My guess would be you went to a country and they could not communicate well enough with you to get you to pay. If you were able to communicate with them so well. Before they take you anywhere you should have ask them if they are showing you for free? Next, ask how much they expect you to pay for showing you? That is the time to negotiate. 100,000 dong was very reasonable to get off of there. Especially since in Vietnam I am not sure how far they will take it? Will they stab you? Who knows. My American Chinese friend went to China and a similar this happened but he had to pay $700 USD. You had to pay $5. You did a good job of getting away for so little.

Asian Lover Oz
06-20-19, 09:08
Indeed you are correct Tom, $5 was a good escape. The thing is I've been with these types of guys in Vietnam before without issues. Maybe it was a slow day for them and they took the opportunity to make a bit of coffee money.

I really don't know what they would have done if I pushed my way past them, it was my last evening in Saigon and didn't want to risk it developing further. Even though I was actually outside the hotel by then and heaps of people around watching.


Asian lover,

This is a very good post to remind people of the mindset out there of locals. This one is your own fault. No one will help you for free. I don't care how much they smile and how much they want to show you a place. They all expect payment. You never mentioned any countries that you say people took you to these places for free. My guess would be you went to a country and they could not communicate well enough with you to get you to pay. If you were able to communicate with them so well. Before they take you anywhere you should have ask them if they are showing you for free? Next, ask how much they expect you to pay for showing you? That is the time to negotiate. 100,000 dong was very reasonable to get off of there. Especially since in Vietnam I am not sure how far they will take it? Will they stab you? Who knows. My American Chinese friend went to China and a similar this happened but he had to pay $700 USD. You had to pay $5. You did a good job of getting away for so little.

SinfullyKorean
06-21-19, 18:10
Thanks for the great report! It was very informational. I'm planning my first trip to HCMC this winter. Your report's got me very excited. I've only been to Thailand so far. I'll probably do 2 weeks Thailand, 1 week Vietnam.


Really enjoyed my first trip to HCMC. Will definitely return. I'll just share info as it panned out for me. Some instances I played newbie to see what would happen. Other times I for real didn't know how a place worked.

Dai Nam Hotel: showed up here about 1 am I think. Kinda a maze to get to the massage spot but the desk guy will direct you. Pick a service from the list. The one I chose was 290 k. I can't remember if this was the cheapest or not. This was non VIP and those were double the price and more. Locker room, keep cash and phone in the little shower bag they give you. So anyway, locker room, shower, lounging area where they give you water and a plate of fruit. A guy offers foot massage which I decline. They take me to massage room and a girl showed up. I wasn't offered a chance to pick. Massage and on the flip she goes right to HJ. Dang that feels pretty nice. She asks how much you tip? I say 300 k. She says that's too low. But she doesn't stop HJ. I told her I could possible give more depending on how well she took care of me. Was taking me longer to finish so she goes back and forth from HJ and BBBJ. Gave her 600 k after she allowed CIM...

Buksida1
06-23-19, 13:39
HCMC has many lonely Viet ladies. I target the 28 to 35 unmarried type. Tight, tight pussy. I have met a few ladies from the app Tagged and from Wechat. Go to Wechat and then go to discover people around. Regular girls might hit you up! I send out 5-6 greeting and will get 2-3 responses. Soon, you will be chatting and make a date. Don't be a cheap English teacher guy. Ask them where they would like to go and eat? It will always be seafood. I found that Vietnam girls seldom drink but like to fuck in the right atmosphere. Crab dinner has always yielded me a super fuck with a pussy dripping for more. The Tagged app takes time and patience but the results are the same.

MutantChicken
06-23-19, 20:01
HCMC has many lonely Viet ladies. I target the 28 to 35 unmarried type. Tight, tight pussy. I have met a few ladies from the app Tagged and from Wechat. Go to Wechat and then go to discover people around. Regular girls might hit you up! I send out 5-6 greeting and will get 2-3 responses. Soon, you will be chatting and make a date. Don't be a cheap English teacher guy. Ask them where they would like to go and eat? It will always be seafood. I found that Vietnam girls seldom drink but like to fuck in the right atmosphere. Crab dinner has always yielded me a super fuck with a pussy dripping for more. The Tagged app takes time and patience but the results are the same.Yes I will leave the 28-35 unmarried types who you will spend 1 m+ on a seafood dinner to bed.

I will just stick with theses girls that pay directly 450 k, rather than your type of freebies. My girl also has a tight pussy that is dripping for more.

Mantid
06-23-19, 23:39
HCMC has many lonely Viet ladies. I target the 28 to 35 unmarried type. Tight, tight pussy. I have met a few ladies from the app Tagged and from Wechat. Go to Wechat and then go to discover people around. Regular girls might hit you up! I send out 5-6 greeting and will get 2-3 responses. Soon, you will be chatting and make a date. Don't be a cheap English teacher guy. Ask them where they would like to go and eat? It will always be seafood. I found that Vietnam girls seldom drink but like to fuck in the right atmosphere. Crab dinner has always yielded me a super fuck with a pussy dripping for more. The Tagged app takes time and patience but the results are the same.How would you communicate if you only spoke English?

Banana Boi
06-24-19, 03:39
I will just stick with theses girls that pay directly 450 k, rather than your type of freebies. My girl also has a tight pussy that is dripping for more.Wow pretty girl. I certainly didn't see any girls like this around when I was in hcm earlier this year.

Buksida1
06-27-19, 08:10
Yes I will leave the 28-35 unmarried types who you will spend 1 m+ on a seafood dinner to bed.

I will just stick with theses girls that pay directly 450 k, rather than your type of freebies. My girl also has a tight pussy that is dripping for more.Then, there is your guiding fee. How much do you charge?

Buksida1
06-27-19, 08:14
How would you communicate if you only spoke English?Most Vietnamese ladies speak English. All that will contact you on these apps will be fluent.

John Clayton
06-27-19, 17:31
Most Vietnamese ladies speak English. All that will contact you on these apps will be fluent.Haha. Not my experience.

Buksida1
06-28-19, 06:26
Haha. Not my experience.Ladies that have contacted you apps could not speak English? Did they contact you in Vietnamese?

John Clayton
06-28-19, 19:06
Ladies that have contacted you apps could not speak English? Did they contact you in Vietnamese?Sorry. I thought you were saying Vietnamese women in general, not just those who use those apps.

Fun Pete
06-28-19, 21:45
Can you share the contact? Is that 450 k per hour? All night? Per shot?

Thanks.

FP.


Yes I will leave the 28-35 unmarried types who you will spend 1 m+ on a seafood dinner to bed.

I will just stick with theses girls that pay directly 450 k, rather than your type of freebies. My girl also has a tight pussy that is dripping for more.

Admin2
07-04-19, 18:08
A buddy of mine is currently visiting HCMC and might need to check something out at the hospital (non mongering issue, not the clap) if you had to go to an Emergency Room as a visitor here which would you pick?

Thanks.

MutantChicken
07-05-19, 12:22
A buddy of mine is currently visiting HCMC and might need to check something out at the hospital (non mongering issue, not the clap) if you had to go to an Emergency Room as a visitor here which would you pick?

Thanks.ID use the FV (Franco-Vietnamese) hospital in d7, rich Cambodians travel there to use its facilities.

Morton219
07-05-19, 14:55
Most Vietnamese ladies speak English. All that will contact you on these apps will be fluent.Which app is used by these girls?

Jude Bright
08-01-19, 22:42
Yes I will leave the 28-35 unmarried types who you will spend 1 m+ on a seafood dinner to bed.

I will just stick with theses girls that pay directly 450 k, rather than your type of freebies. My girl also has a tight pussy that is dripping for more.Will visit HCM in a month. Do you mind to share the info with me.

Thankas.

Jb.

BertyRuss
08-06-19, 11:48
I have been contacted by a number of pro girls on various chat services and many have provided suggestions for short term hotels. They usually say "get room and then let me know room number. " Fine, but these hotels are typically one-hour places, and Viet girls (and call girls in most places) tend not to be punctual. What is customary? Does the hotel cut your slack, or should I wait for the girl to arrive and then buy the room? What are your suggestions? Thanks, BR.

Phazze93
08-10-19, 21:15
Hi why'all. Goin on a work trip to HCM soon (2 weeks, district 1) mostly free at night time. Been reading up on forum and am a little fuzzy on the scene here as I'm mostly accustomed to the whole thai gogo scene.

Any feedback / help would greatly be appreciated.

1- looks like the only arrangement via sites like thiendia is by meeting at a st hotel of the girls choosing?? Or my choice?

Is this really safe? The idea of checking into a ST hotel, giving my ID to staff and waiting in a shitty room for a girl I've never seen in person to show up seems sketchy af.

What if cops show up instead?

2- how consistent is the thiendia girl quality? I'm 27 & so ID honestly prefer girls younger than myself. Ideally 24 & under & needless to say, hot like the photos!

3- is it actually dangerous to use my own home country service / roaming? Or safer to buy local sim card to contact these girls? I also don't speak a lick of viet.

4- are there any similar scenes to thai gogos? Doesn't seem like it unless girly bars?

Cheers.