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Thanks B Traveller, I will try the place when I am there in November.
According to www.tintucvietnam.com, karaoke Medusa at Amara Hotel was raided by Hochiminh City police for prostitution. 30 hostesses with 2 managers (1 Vietnamese and 1 Korean) were arrested by police. Prostitution activities had been going on for over a year and for each transaction the girl(s) charged 70USD - 100USD. The majority of customer were foreigners and normally around 70 hostesses were there at any given time.
When police raided the hotel, a customer (Japanese) and a hostess were caught red handed while they were having sex.
I a planning to visit VN from 11/21 til 12/2 and would like to meet an expat for coffee or a beer. Let me know if someone will be around HCMCT around that time. Will it be better to rent an apartment or get a hotel? I was planning to get an apartment for VietKieu around HBT street.
Zer
Dear All,
I have been visiting HCMC several times and I need an answer to this:
I usually stay at the Sofitel Plaza. Now the management say I can't bring in a girl unless I pay for a room for her.
Also I can't check in for double room if the girl with me is not my wife!
Now is this an official law in Vietnam? Or is it just the management trying to squeeze more money out of me.
Thanks for any elightenment.
Mike
I have been able to enjoy Saigon recently. My distinct impression was that there was something of a crackdown. U2 was still going strong, but I sensed that the girls were not really in the best of health, there was something sinister about some of them. Bar 131 seemed like a clip joint in the early evening, and in the late evening I had no patience with the brain-busting music. Liquid and Heat were very quiet (on a weekend) and it seemed that one of these, I forget which, was shut down entirely. The scene around AN was also quiet.
One's best bet was to wait for the very late evening, after midnight, when one can be accosted on some streets by solicitors and even girls on bikes. Play at your own risk; the better bet is to find a trustworthy motorbike fellow. I got into an uncomfortable situation the first night, and afterwards made a point of not allowing myself to be driven too far away on the biker's initiative. Some of these fellows can arrange girls to show up and meet you on the sidewalk, or they can drive around with you looking for freelancers. I have had some real discoveries there, but it's not something to be recommended for anyone on a first night out. There are also areas where bikers with girls drive around looking for punters, but as a general rule, the more middlemen guys there are with a girl, the greater the risk of trouble for you later. I was in a situation where I went with a girl to shower, and left my pants in the [locked] room. Bad move.
For these reasons, it's best to reserve a hotel room beforehand, or to have a business card from one; there are several convenient and discreet ones in Pham Gu Lao that allow you to take a girl in for an hour, at 200,000 dong. Get your driver to pick up the girl, and the three of you go off, leaving anyone else behind. This way, you remain the master of the situation. Again, nothing can be found until around 11pm at the earliest.
In summary, three excellent experiences, one scary situation, one scam, and one dead fish (performance-wise). One girl spoke a little English, the rest none whatsoever. I am discreet with the juicy details, because the Vietnamese vice squads have just as good an access to internet as anyone else.
Mike Loan,
That's the law in Vietnam. There are plenty of hotels that you can bring in girls. If this one doesn't allow, then find another one. Good luck and have fun.
Mike Loan,
Taodan is correct. It is the law.
But, don't worry. When i was at the Rennaissance Riverside, the visiting hours were from 10am-10pm. That means the girl can come over and stay all day. So you can wake up, have her come over at 9am, have a breakfast with her downstairs, then go up at 10am for some fun.
You can take her swimming at the pool...etc...etc...
Spend all day with her, take her out of the hotel at night.
I don't think that is such a bad way to spend your time in HCMC.
good luck.
There is a report from one of the on-line Viet newspapers that several bars in HCM City has been closed temporarily within the last few days, most notably No. 1 on Le Thanh Ton, 129 and 131 Nguyen Hue and 259 Tran Hung Dao. Anybody can confirm on this ? The article stated that this is in response to the recent raid at Amara Hotel.
Hi,
Any info about the Sofitel hotel (are lady permitted? Staff friendly?)
Thanks
READ 5 reports previous to the one you posted. Mike Loan's report, he mentions the Sofitel.
cheers
OK there have been a few mentions of this Go Vap area with all the cafe oms. I think it was Dirty D who shared this here a few times.
Any more detailed directions on how to find these?
I was out that way tonight about midnight but did not see anything. A "bookstore" was mentioned at one point as being the landmark to look for before turning left, but of course late at night all the shops are closed up, lights out, most with shutters down, so that's not gonna be the best way find this place.
I'm trying to find some of the less obvious spots now. That means not the District 1 hostess bars, not Dien Bien Phu hot tocs.
thanks
I will be in town staying at the Winsor Saigon from the afternoon of the 12 October 2003 and flighing out on the morning of 14 October 2003.
If any one feels like a mongering partner, you can email me before I get there so we can make some plans.
Thanks.
Claude
Malter Man
10-14-03, 00:39
Vietnam is not so easy as Thailand and Cambodia for girls. I mean they are available ok, but you will not find it easy to take to hotel. I picked a girl from a bar in district 1 of Ho Chi Minh, Saigon district. It was easy, some eye contact, and she was mine. However my hotel didn't accept guests. I went short time to a nearby guest house and had a quicky, paying around $4 for room. Fuck was great, and vietnamese girls in general get a well deserved 8.
All,
Can anyone help me: Does Vietnam has any "soapy" massage places like Thailand ?
I will be visiting soon with a mate and believe it is something everyone should experience at least once in their life.
If there is a selection any recommendations!
Thanks in advance,
Summiteer
Silly Puppy
10-26-03, 17:37
I'd like to write to some Vietkieu about the girls in HCM and VungTau. Please send me a private message via the WSG Forum's Private Messaging system. I'll be in the area by mid November.
Thanks,
James
Hi guys,
I was there in March 2003 and did not see or heard about any soapy massage parlours. I guess you can find some private ones if you can find the right people to talk with (expacts ?).
Plenty of girls around in HCMC (district 1) but as mentionned before the girlfriendly hotels are the biggest problem.
I am leaving next month again, any updates of new ho(s)tels please ? Maybe Malterman about his "nearby guesthouse" ?
Thanks!
Thanks Asiaphile, never heard about this!
I read somewhere that Catwalk has a 'package' for $20 that includes unlimited drink and a lady to chat with. Anyone knows if this is still the case? If so, how does one ask for it?
Also, what would be an appropriate tip to the lady for the time spent?
Besides Catwalk, is there similar places with high ratios of pretty girls?
Doing research for my upcoming trip in November. Thanks for any interesting info that can be shared.
Tell me if I am wrong, but it seems that the newest update of TET is 4 or 5 years old. The young girls on the photos must now all be married with one or two kids. The bars and brothel advertized must have changed of owner ten times, and the hotels on the 'inside scoop list' have either been demolished or become supermarkets. I don't like to destroy the work of co-sex travellers, but we need accurancy and solidarity among ourselves. I believe that is whay this forum is made for. But I might be wrong.
Hey HCMC,
Was great. Managed to hook up things in the last week I was there. BBBJs for 70,000 dong! Thats about 4usd, and girls are everywhere and very easy to find. Apparently the population is 50% 15-24yos so the odds are in your favour.
Contact me for any advice.
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!
Jason Nguyen
11-04-03, 22:56
I'll be in Saigon, Vietnam on Dec 19, 2003, and will be there for 2 weeks. I can speak Cantonese and Vietnamese. I'm looking for someone to meet up and hang out. Anybody going to Saigon around that time?
Hi SixPack,
I am starting my trip to Saigon next week and would like to chat with you about your recent trip. How can I send private message to you ? I've enabled PM here so you can send me your message.
Thanks, bro.
Hi sixoack & vietcool,
I will be in HCM from 19th Dec and then travelling around a bit so I am doing a bit of research. Any up to date info appreciated.
I will be writting a trip report when I get back to reciprocate what I have learn't.
Jason - you never know we might run into each other - but will we know !
Guys, We have to try and keep the "private messaging" to a minimum here. I realise under some circumstances it is warranted, but the site is for sharing of info. so that others may learn from it and in turn, they would post some info. too. Sorry if I come across as rude or bossy (definately NOT my intention), but just trying to encourage posts for "all" to see. Thanks! Happy poking! ;)
Chikan,
I'm with you! I we don't share we all lose in the long run. No offence taken by me I thought you were spot on not rude.
Summiteer
Wild Child
12-02-03, 10:38
Yes! I have made my travel arrangements for my holiday in Saigon December 19th and can't wait! On all my previous visits I've found the Vietnamese people to be friendly funloving hosts and so many of the Vietnamese girls are drop dead gorgeous! Although you might think that mongering opportunities in a communist country would be severely limited, the variety of venues to "meet" women are mindblowing, you just have to look a little harder. From massage parlours, to karaoke bars, to straight up bj bars you really have quite the selection. Although I personally enjoy going to night clubs and discos to meet women I have checked out several massage parlours and I can say that if you get past the language barrier service is on par with any establishment in my hometown (Vancouver) and at a fraction of the cost. It's definitely a little slice of heaven and I would totally recommend that if any of you have the opportunity to visit to take it.
Hey Summiteer and Jason, we should get together when we're over there and have a beer somewhere, I've got first round ;-)
Wild Child,
I'm stuck in Saigon for a week, and don't like it. Then again I'm coming from Thailand. You mentioned there are actually BJ bars here? I find Vietnam such a controlled and unpleasant place, and a BJ bar would sure help me get through this weeklong exile. Where are they? That type of quicky sounds good because you can't bring girls back to your hotel room here, and besides, the girls here tend to be very pricey, so maybe a BJ woud be more economical.
Silly Puppy
12-03-03, 02:20
It is not a good time for girl hunting as the Commie is trying to make VN look good during the SEA GAMES. Even Vietnamese like me had a hard time getting laid couple weeks ago. Many girls are too careful and afraid of police . I fucked a girl in a massage parlor and she kept watching the window to make sure no body was watching. I got distracted and could not come after more than 30 minutes of hard fucking!
After the Games things may be better .
Wild Child,
"You have mail" - check your Private Messages box... cheers!
Chikan
Wild Child
12-03-03, 21:56
Opebo,
Give Monkey Bar a try. It's on the opposite side of the square across from I believe the Caravelle. I've gotten lucky there before but be careful because as is usually the case there are hustlers. If you're from BKK I'm sure I don't need to tell you this. They might not be so friendly if the case is as James Tran says it is. I've noticed that LE in Saigon usually enforce in waves and when they are cracking down everything shuts down but it's business as usual once the heat dies down.
Chikan, thanks for the PM. Nice to see another good BC boy on the forum!
When do the Asean Games end. And does anyone have a list of 'girl friendly' hotels etc in HMC?
I'm looking for a good first there :)
Thanks for the tip Wild Child.
I was in that area tonight, but hadn't read your post yet. I went to a similar bar very nearby on Hai Ba Trung, though I don't remember the bar name. I had stuck my head in a few bars and bargained and questioned. I got all sorts of eye-popping prices, from $50 to $60 for the girl, and usually they said the room somewhere would be another $20. So I walked on. The bar I finally sat down in and ordered a Coke (20,000 dong) was pushy as well - the first girl said nothing whatsoever to me except 'you buy me one drink now?'. I kept just replying 'no' and finally she left. The second girl to approach was 30ish, nice looking but older than I'm used to. But also nice curves and larger breasts than I'm used to in Thailand. Friendly, with no constant demands for a drink, and a little rubbing of the opebo dong. After much bargaining, we agreed on BJ upstairs for 250,000 dong and one 50,000 dong lady drink. Upstairs she gave decent head, but as usually I couldn't come that way, so I proposed intercourse. She was very nervous about that - upstairs they only have a pooltable and some chairs, and anyone can come in. She wouldn't do it so I offered more money for extra service. We settled on 500,000 and one more lady drink. Then she climbed on top and worked it slowly in, with no annoying request for a condom. She moved very nicely, and I sucked her nipples while she rode. After a short, awkward, but fun time in the straitbacked chair, I finished inside her. The total cost for the evening's fun was 625,000 dong, say about $41. So though it was fun I think I'll be waiting till I get back to Thailand for more - it is just too expensive here. I would advise anyone who can to avoid Vietnam - its a ripoff.
One more Saigon report, probably my last as I fly out in a few hours. I had resolved to save my money till back in Thailand, but for several days past a girl had flirted with me in the local internet cafe near my hotel. Very cute and busty. Well last night she was there again wearing a particularly cleavage-revealing top, and I proposed we go to my hotel. Flatteringly, she seemed to assume I might not be a monger (we were in a 'backpacker' area). She stressed she was a 'taxi girl', and had to be paid - apparently thought I might be one of the young and foolish backpackers who might think they'd get some for free! (Opebo has no delusions in that area). In the end we went to a 150K dong short time hotel - the night man at my hotel had told me he would accept no less than a $15 bribe to let me bring a girl in. I think he was dissappointed I never took him up on it. Anyway, this girl was fun and pleasant, though her skill and service level was far below what I'm used to in Thailand, and the price was high - 700K dong. I probably could've bargained lower but chose instead to insist on bareback - apparently not hard to get here, but it takes some persuading. Overall, not a bad experience. Vietnam is a poor mongering destination, but it is possible to have decent, though overpriced, fun if you have to be here for some other reason. Its really too bad the country isn't more developed for our hobby as the girls are very hot and an interesting change from Thai/Philippina Malay type.
Silly Puppy
12-10-03, 02:09
Hey Opebo,
Please be sensitive about the AIDS epidemic. At least have a courage to wear a condom (yes, I know it makes you less sensitive and enjoyable). Yuck! I can't believe well-informed people like you can do such thing! Girls in third world country are so poor and illiterate but , oh my god people like you have the gut to fuck a girl without having any condoms. I just can't fucking believe it! Man, the AIDS epidemic loves someone like you.
Don't you know about 90% of...
JT
With all due respect Opebo you got ripped off BIG BIG TIME. Those may be tricky asking prices but VND650000-700000 for "ST" sex in Viet Nam is outrageously high and continues to ruin the scene when guys like you (who it seems should no better) pay it! The standard going rate for any kind of sex (BJ/FS) in HCM City is VND200000-300000 ST tip with young, fine performers. You paid a "LT" price and around 2.5 times the real rate which can often be bargained down or at least found elsewhere at a variety of venues.
If you pay 1000 baht for Thailand ST sex do you feel it's OK? Maybe it is, but some decent freelancers along Pattaya beach road can be gotten for B300-500 or B500-700 at places like Thermae in BKK. BTW, the going rate at many cafe oms and hot tocs in relatively off the beaten track parts is around VND100000 to as low as VND30000 - what most horny Vietnamese men pay everyday living in the dirt poor Socialist Republic. Enjoy Thailand!
Asiaphile,
My ability to avoid being ripped off is not that great. I'm naturally very cheap, which helps a lot, but its no substitute for knowledge. I don't know much about Vietnam - though I repeatedly scoured this board for information and posted requests for same.
The key difference that I saw was that in Thailand, and some other places, prostitution is fairly common, open, and easy to find, even 'in your face', so one can shop around. I never saw anything like that in Saigon - just a very few discrete, almost hidden bars which all consistently quoted high prices, and no freelancers anywhere. Finding a prostitute seemed like finding a needle in a haystack compared to say Bangkok or Pattaya. So as far as I could tell my choice was between paying a high price or doing without - and for me the two girls I had in 7 days was, relatively speaking, doing without.
Maybe there are some secret areas that have freelancers, or maybe bars for locals, or some such thing. Apparently in China people have sex in hair salons. The point I'm making here is that being relatively good at bargain hunting in Thailand does nothing to prepare the monger for cracking tougher, more 'underground' nuts like Vietnam.
Perhaps a posting or two from apparently knowledgeable members such as yourself would help. Where are these 'off the beaten track' 'cafe oms' or 'hot tocs'. And what the devil are cafe oms or hot tocs anway? The Thailand board is full of copious information, but there's little or nothing in the Vietnam board. If regulars wish to prevent overpaying and preserve good prices, they should supply some information!
Staying at the Sheraton for 2 weeks in Jan/2004. Looking for some places within short walking distance.
Any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dave.
Cont. the thread...
New Sheraton HCMC - Bad choice IMO. Not guest friendly like all the overpriced luxury JV or govt owned hotels.
Yes, VN requires a lot of specialized knowledge as it's not a user friendly mongering destination compared to Thailand, etc. I could go on for hours on the subject to enlighten many here but...
Over the years the best sources for VN nightlife info I've found besides this forum (which is spotty on VN) are:
Elephantguide.com (Vietnam) - A good list of clubs, etc. but seems to have not been updated in the past few months.
groovysaigon.com - Apparently no longer updated but worth a look.
vnrealty.com/nt - Lots of great stuff on Nha Trang plus other parts of VN.
Also - There's a couple VN language online sites that touch on nightlife but seem to especially stay on top of any vice crackdowns. Very valuable info for any one who can read it.
Hopefully, there's more decent VN nightlife resources not on this list that others can add.
Gentlemen,
This may come as a surprise to some of you, and please don't take this the wrong way, but you can not use my forum to promote a competing forum.
If you have info, then post it here.
Thanks,
Jackson
Silly Puppy
12-13-03, 00:25
I'd not recommend anything to people without any understanding of the AIDS virus and who loves to fuck anything can walk in third world countries without wearing any protection. As Opebo is so cheap he probably doesn't want to fuck (or he can't afford) any girls in the US so we are safe from him here. But showing him around how to get girls in third world countries is like arming him with a deadly nuclear bomb.
I am sorry but I have to be straight foeward with people like him who has no conscience what he could do to others. I am suspicious that he is an HIV carrier who just wants to gives it to other innocent people to .. revenge someone gave it to him . Am I right , Opebo? I hope you'd disappear from this forum for good!
I am telling you now, I'll ask Vietnamese police to track you and get you in prison for doing such dangerous act. Shame on you man!
Asiaphile,
Those sites you mentioned either had nothing on the subject of where to find prostitutes, or said it was difficult and expensive - quote 'not like Vietnam's neighbors'. And one was a pay site - no thanks. Why do you decline to 'enlighten many here'? Your choice, but if we ignorantly go and overpay in Vietnam, driving up your prices, don't complain.
Many people have mentioned to me that the Sheraton is not a good place to stay for various reasons. Unfortunately, work is sending me to Saigon so I have no choice but to stay there.
I don't want to bring anyone back to the hotel. Looking more for places near by I can walk to between meetings. Ideal would be a good massage places that offer extras beyond HJs.
Thanks,
Dave.
Hi Wild child,
I flew home to the UK from Vancouver yesterday - If I had read you post properly before I would have left a message. Will arrive in HCM on Friday and be around for a couple of days. Would be great to meet up & jason if you are around.
Do you know HCM ? - Do you want to suggest a good bar?
Fun in the sun soon.
Stay happy all,
Summiteer
Gentlemen.
This might be off topic but has anyone come across disco's, bars, etc. where non P4P girls/ladies spend their free time ? I personally like to mix it up a bit, thanks.
I need help. Last HCM visit wsa great except for hotel issues. I knew bringing a girl home by cyclo from AN at midnight was pressing my luck! Anyway, the normal extra room charges and police visits took away from the experience. I arrive this time somewhere around mid january. Anyone got a contact for serviced apartment or non govenment hotel? 2 persons, 2 rooms 4 nights.
Thanks.
I was in Saigon recently and wanted to post my take on a few bars I visited. But first things firtst, Vietnam in my opinion is the best kept secret in whole of South East Asia. Food, people, city everything is just so pleasant (except for traffic). I haven't seen so many bikes in my life. It was all like a river of bikes on the streets which not too many have traffic lights. Driving is a mere impossibility. Anyway back to bar reviews:
After 5: Westernised, expat joint. There were only a few expats when I went there. All very friendly. Girls are strategically located on the other side of the bar. Very relaxed atmosphere and a good place to have a chat.
Blue Gekko: Another expat bar in central Saigon. But this was more crowded compared to After 5 and average age was lower as well (30's). Highlight is the newsletter posted in men's toilet. Hilarious stuff. Don't miss it!
49 & 51: Located right next to each other. Unlike the previous 2, these were pure girlie bars. You will have to buy a drink or two for your companions (VD 50,000 = USD 3) for their time. Very friendly but beware of what you are charged. It might be a good idea to pay right after every round rather accumulating on a tab. My personal preferance was 49 but of course that is a hugely personal subjective choice.
Apocalypse Now: Mecca for mongers. I think every monger should pay a visit to this place. Good music but a bit too loud. Good crowd. And most important of all, very very good looking girls. Although the asking prices are higher than any other place I have been to. I have even been quoted USD 50 for an hour which of course is way too high. I have pulled out a cutie with a die-for body and face for VD 500k for 2 hours (USD 30) which may be already higher than local expat standards. However, there is a catch. The hotels are not girl friendly and you will have to get a room in a mini-hotel which costs another VD 300k. Do not take the taxis waiting right outside Apocalypse as they will rip you off like noone's business. Walk 50 m and get another of the street.
I have also been to a few really seedy establishments but can't even remember their names.
I had a fantastic time in Saigon and can't wait until I get back...
NC
Great post no_commit. You are correct about not taking taxis immediately outside of the AN, or any bar for that matter, always do as you suggested and walk a bit before getting a cab. Another suggestion, never have a cabbie/cyclo drop you off in front of your hotel, they will will wait and hound you everytime you leave the place. Another thing, never ask anyone on the street for help in where to find something to buy or a place to eat, many times they will steer you to where they will get a kickback on a deal.
I am posting this to get an update on the Monger scene from some of the lads out there hunting. I haven't been to Sgn. for three years, and I was starting to get worried by some of the posts as it seemed that the scene had changed a lot since I was last there.
I was never a big fan of AN, as a matter of fact, if you play your cards right you can do well for yourself in the discos. But here is a trick for the first-timers at AN: When you go to the place for the first time, just hang out, and wait, you will notice a circle of girls forming around you waiting to be approached. Act somewhat naive, and when you start to chat up a girl and she asks you, "Have you ever been here", say "no". She is trying to figure out if you know what kind of bar it is. If you say that you haven't been there, she might think that you don't know she is a pro. Act like your looking for a girlfriend, and you might walk out with pussy for the cost of just a few drinks and the effort of slow dancing.
It is best to identify a ST (short time) hotel beforehand (any suggestion for District 1?) and go straight there, that way she will not know which hotel you are staying at and she will not bug you the next day. And the last thing, don't buy into her "I'm so poor line". If she thinks that your a nice guy and gives it up for free, she is only doing so because she thinks that your a chump, and ripe for a bigger take, like a steady flow of money, or worse yet (gulp), marriage.
Any place in Saigon that offers table-showers? Or a place where a girl will shower with you?
Thanks,
Dave.
Wild Child
12-24-03, 08:40
Hey Summiteer,
I'm in SGN right now and would love to meet up for a beer or whatever just PM me. There are plenty of good bars in this town but the only problem is that you should head out a little earlier than you're probably used to since the government has decreed that all establishments be closed at 12 pm every night. You can find all sorts of bars from high end catering mostly to foreigners (Sheraton, Saigon Saigon at the Caravelle), Hostess bars (Maxim's, Catwalk, Pinnacle), local bars (131), and a whole lot of seedy hole in wall type places. It really depends what sort of scene you're looking for.
Sir Asian, I'm like you in the fact that I enjoy mixing things up a bit and since I'm a young buck, freebies aren't out of the question. And who doesn't love a freebie? I'd suggest trying out Liquid or Rainforest Disco, the quality of girls is usually excellent. It's more of a local crowd so if you're looking for Vietnamese girls that's my personal choice.
XXXCEO I'm staying at the Windsor Saigon and have had a great experience. It's quite a nice place and well-run. And I haven't had any problems with girls. They just have to leave their ID at the front desk before they go upstairs, and depending on who's working the night shift, you might not even have to pay extra. You can PM me if you want more info or assistance.
I'll try to post some more but I've been having so much fun being a dog out here that it might be a while before I get back on a computer. All I can say is "I'm loving it."
Hi to all, and Merry Xmas...
just one quick point I wanted to make about bringing girls back to your hotel in Saigon:
I remember when I went there my hotel also prohibited girls from staying overnight, but, they were permitted there between 10am-10pm.
So, if I met a girl in the bar, I'd give her some money to stop by my hotel the next day for some lunch, swimming, and some action.....etc.. The girls always wanted to stay around all day. Then we usually went out to a disco together later on when she supposed to be out of the hotel.
They would have to leave their passports or ID at the front desk, but, I never had a problem bringing a girl up to my room for a while. I found this to much safer, and quite enjoyable. (I have always been a little worried of those 2hr Love-hotels. I don't like going into any unknown room after having a few beers with my money and my pants down at my ankles).
cheers.
Lalake
Checked out some bars in town and agree with the description below of the Monkey Bar: the women hit you up for drinks right away and if you refuse they just walk away. U2 was better and two lovelies were all over me and at least stayed after me when I didn't buy them a drink at their first request.
I went to the "Thai Massage" place right across the street from the Sheraton. It isn't really a Thai massage, though, rather an oil massage (down naked). $8 for 1 hour, $15 for 2. The woman offered a BJ at an outrageous price ($100) and I bargained for a more reasonable HJ although I still overpaid. But I am only in town for a day and don't have the time for shopping around. Nonetheless, her technique was excellent.
Wild Child
01-10-04, 13:35
Well JPF, I say as long as you found something which worked out for you it's all good.
You should have checked out Liberty which is right next door. I met a girl there that I ended up staying with for 10 days out of my 2 week trip. Which now that I think about it is insane, considering the ridiculous amount of frighteningly gorgeous women that I could and usually am hooking up with every time I'm over there. Oh well, no regrets right? Well I'm regretting the fact that I'm back to work and freezing my ass off. I really wish I never left.
AZN Monger
01-14-04, 04:02
Hi guys,
I just wanted to post my experience of Saigon/HCMC back in January of 2001. It was my first mongering experience and I had 2 girls on 2 consecutive nights.
Staying in a regular hotel on vacation. Keep in mind I am a Viet Kieu (Vietnamese born in US). I come out of the hotel late at night to catch a couple drinks. This pimp was also there having some drinks himself. Talked to him a little bit. Eventually, I asked him to get me a girl.
We hop on his moped and go off to a hooker-friendly hotel. He drives off to get a girl for me. I do not recommend this if you are not familiar with Viet Nam or do not have an understanding of the country as it can be dangerous.
A girl comes in a couple minutes later. She showed her ID to the hotel and we proceed to go upstairs. She goes into the shower to undress and reappears in a white towel. We go at it in multiple positions and finish off with doggie. What a tight, tight pussy. Never will be the same in America :)
The second girl experience was at the same hotel. Originally, I came there that night to get the same girl I had the other night. Turns out she left back to her home and so the pimp offers another girl. I initially declined, but stopped them as the pimp was driving her back.
Pretty much the same experience as the first. I'll never forget that first experience. I believe I paid 200,000 for 1 hour for each girl. I tipped the first girl, as she was more friendly and GFE-like.
I returned home the day after that. Will probably come back sometime soon. Hope the action is still hot there ;)
Turbo Carl
01-14-04, 07:19
Hi,
In march I will stay in the Grand Hotel District 1.
Is this hotel girl friendly?
I am looking for a good a-go-go club, because I want to go there with my girlfriend - she likes asians, too.
Or if no a-go-go (like Thailand) exists, do you know a clean night-club/bar or massage location, where I can bring my girlfriend in?
Do you know a clean short-time hotel in District 1?
Thank you very much!
Greetings from Germany,
Turbo Carl
hi,
i'm going to saigon next week, where can i find a good sw? is it safe and ok to bring her back to the hotel? what is the prize for st and all night?
i'm white, european, can that give any problems at the hotel if i have a girl with me?
do the girls speek any english?
i hope somebody can give me some help,
thanks
bluewolf
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WIld Child you are the best. Windsor hotel worked out great, get double rooms,you can bring in girls no problem, after 10 p.m. as well. They even let gest return at 5 a.m. Thanks again. Paid $46 including all taxes, a little steep but again absolutely no grief. When we have stayed in $!6 a night hotels seemed like too much grief with authorities..
AS re: AN I have been here before, in my opinion talent getting a little old. Incredibly crowded on weekend. Candidly, we found it as good to just show up 15 mintues before closing and hang outside. Local little bars with pool tables much much better. ALso others experiences with just meeting locals during the day and making dates works if you want to invest the time.
Wild Child thanks again!
Liberty: What is this place? Is it a parlor? Cafe?
Thanks,
Dave.
Wild Child
01-17-04, 00:27
No problem xxx,
Always happy to help out fellow mongers. I totally agree with you, I'd rather spend a little extra money and be able to relax and really enjoy myself. I don't see any need to spend time in a foreign prison, especially one in a communist country. Yeah, I personally stay away from AN now unless I'm showing a friend around town and it's their first trip. The way I see it, I already meet enough expats through business functions and if you're on holiday in a foreign country, you really should absorb some of the local culture. Plus the locals really know how to party, it's crazy.
Davedave: Liberty is a hostess bar. It might not be your cup of tea but if you're sick of partying and you just want to chill out and have a few casual drinks, you might as well have some cuties cuddling you right?
Blue Wolf: You can find SW's all over HCM City. There are hostess bars, massage parlours, even pros hanging out at nightclubs. I've been eating at roadside restaurants after the bars closed for the night and had girls approach me. If you are staying at a foreign chain hotel (Sheraton, Caravelle, etc.) they won't hassle you but they are quite a bit more expensive. I would not suggest bringing girls back to the government hotels (the government tourism board: Saigontourist has a pretty good monopoly on hotels and even a lot of the shops that cater to tourists.) I don't think your race has much bearing on the matter if you're staying at a decent hotel, they either will hassle you or they won't. The only problem I can foresee with your skin colour would be if you chose to go to a local mini-hotel where they would try to fleece you for whatever you have. English speaking would really depend upon where you're picking girls up. On the street I'd say you've got a 20% chance of some english, most hostess bars have a mamasan that speaks english and you can just ask her to find a girl who speaks english. You can go through the forum to get an idea of prices.
Turbo Carl: I'm sorry to report that the Grand Hotel is not so grand... I also believe that it's a Saigontourist hotel. You're also out of luck on the go go bars. The Vietnamese government would never grant a business license for anything like that. You can always check out bars, nightclubs, and massage parlours depending on what you're looking for. I don't know if your girlfriend would find a happy ending at a massage parlour though, I find that the Vietnamese girls aren't really big on the girl-girl action. I've only been able to pull a threesome in Saigon twice. Nothing like Thailand or Cambodia where I've had as many as 8 going at a time.
Thanks Wild Child.
A few more questions regarding Liberty:
- Am I expected to "buy out" a lady and take her with me?
- Can I get "extras" in the bar?
- How much should I expect to spend?
I'll be staying at the Sheraton for business so Liberty will definately be a place I check out.
Thanks,
Dave.
Wild Child,
Thanks for the info.
I will stay at Saigon Pink Hotel, I guess it's a privat hotel, so laither I will find out if it's a girlfriendly hotel.
I will write a post abouth my (un)luck, but VN sounds a lot less girlfriendly than China.
BlueWolf
Wild Child
01-20-04, 08:20
No problem Blue Wolf. If the hotel is privately owned you shouldn't have any problems especially if you slip the guy working the night shift at the desk some cash. And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the Viet girls, they're very friendly and a lot of them are stunners. Have fun buddy!
Dave, I would suggest that once you get inside you ask to speak with Mamasan. There are 2 of them, the senior one speaks passable English and she's very good at taking care of good clients. Just tell her what sort of girl you're looking for but make sure to tell her you want one that will go home with you. She'll also let you know prices if you ask her. There are a couple of girls that just work as hostesses and live off tips without going home with guys. This was the case with the girl that I hooked up with but we hit it off pretty good so we just arranged to hook up during the day. You never know, freebies are always a possibility. The cover charge is 70 000-100 000 VND depending on the night and you usually tip the girls 200 000 if you don't want to take them home. I usually find that my tab is way more than whatever I give the girls and I tip pretty good. They love me there because I'm a good-looking drunk..... I guess extras inside are a possibility but I really doubt it, it's not really a sleazy joint. There are a couple spots like Monkey Bar where that goes down but they tend to be pretty trashy places.
Hope that helps you out.
As has been reported here before Monkey Bar likes to play tricks on unsuspecting tourists and is basically a rip off. There are many similar "juicer bars" in and around Hai Ba Trung Street area but it's one of the worst. Shit, it's located directly around the corner from the ridiculous super luxury Caravelle Hotel - so what do you expect! Liberty has never appealed to me either. U2 is one of the better ones as several have agreed. Since the HCMC police goons no doubt monitor this forum I think it's best not do discuss details about specific venue services and especially girl friendly private hotels. There are several very worthwhile hostess bars in HBT area but you have to get around and inspect them. Some definitely have on premisis BJ or FS but everyone needs to be discrete. I don't know what the previous post about 70-100K cover charge is all about since there's never such a charge in the dozen or more bia om in this area - unless you're being ripped off. Maybe he means a freelancer bar like AN with its door cover. Yes, mamasan will want around 200K to "buy out" one of her hostess girls which is equivalent to around 5-6 "lady drinks." The suggestion about meeting up discretely with a girl the next day is often the way to go or try for on premisis sex. Again, all very discretely with a tip to the girl of 200K (BJ) 300K (FS) max. with no need to pay mamasan for such a quick ST. Enjoy HCMC, but shop around and shop smart.
Silly Puppy
01-21-04, 08:13
I'll tell you how to get lay cheap ... in Saigon (hey I don't call SG HCMC because I am a Southerner.)
Be friend to any "Xe tho" drivers, ask them where to get lay and they will take you there with the cost of a long ride (~ 35,000) . I tried this and fucked a stunner for 100,000 . Amazingly, she did "fire and ice" which I just know only being offered in China thanks to a recent trip. I forgot the place as it is in the outskirt of SG and very hard to find.
I stayed in a hotel close to center of SG for 200,000/night owned by Korean called xxxx (I can't tell you). There were 2 policemen guarding cross the street. Thay continued watching the whole day and maybe night. So I tipped the bellboy to get girls for me. They did it for me free of charge but I did not have a chance to know how the girls looked like. Well, I fucked 2 girls like this, they both above average, in two days and each girl cost me $30 for 2 shots. The problem is you have to bargain hard to get what you want. They normally don't speak English at all.
Turbo Carl
01-26-04, 23:13
I found a straight strip club link side to Viet Nam (Saigon) with four adresses.
Does someone know the locations? What goes off there?
Bar Thien Thanh
24 Chan Maul Diel
Ho Chi Minh City
Cosy Corner Pub
74A P1 Hai Ba Trung Street District 1
Ho Chi Minh City
Miss Saigon
74A1 Hai Ba Trung St
Ho Chi Minh City
Thien Dang Paradise
74 / 6 Hai Ba Trung St
Ho Chi Minh City
Thank you in advance.
Wild Child,
Thanks for your information. I am in contact with the Grand Hotel ... it ist possible to take a lady up to the room. The only condition is however that my wife goes first with girl into the room. I can follow then. Do you know a good massage parlours with many beatiful girls to choose?
i am in hcmc and this place doenst seem to be as blatant about its sextrade as other asian countries. if i were to just have time for one experience in vietnam, can anyone recommend something?
Poon Searcher
02-01-04, 11:54
Buzz,
Try the Maxim Club in 1st district. The club is owned by a Vietnamese-American musician. He plays there everynight. All the girls there are top notch. Hand picked by him. I'm very picky and I have to say that I haven't seen a bad looking one yet and I have been there many occasions. They all wear cocktail dresses or miniskirts. They don't get pay to work there. All their earnings come from tips and bang sessions. Hang out there for a night or two and tip them nicely. Once they get to know you and feel comfortable they will leave the club with you afterward. Be patient,the reward will indeed be very nice. All these girls are top quality. They can be models.
If you can't wait,go down a couple of blocks. On your right hand side there is a big hotel. Make a right on Mac Thi Buoi Street to Thang Long Hotel. Thang Long Hotel is on your left hand side as you're walking down. There's a guy there infront of the hotel with a sanwich cart. He's normally there between 7pm-4 am. Ask him discreetly. He doesn't want to get into trouble. He's been selling there for over 30 years so nothing that's going on in that area can pass him. Or have a translator ask him where to find girls. He'll ask one of the taxis or bikes to go get them for you. But tell him I sent you so he won't feel so awkward. Tell him you know me. He calls me "Cong Tu Bac Lieu" . And if you're hungry,have some of the sanchiches he sells, the best that I've ever eaten in Vietnam and the States. Also, if you get sanwiches make sure to tip him so he will put more meat in there and fresh not day old. Do not pay more than $30 (approx. 450,000 vd ) for an all nighter . Thang Long Hotel is guest friendly with a $5 charge and she must have an ID. It is for your protection. Don't go to the girl's place. You might get set up and robbed. I have seen it happened to tourists who don't speak the language.
Next to Thang Long Hotel is a bar. You can get those girls to leave too but they charge $100 plus bar fine. Don't ever pay those prices. Those girls mainly target unsuspecting Russians, French, and Americans(White boys). That is too much in Vietnam. For a 100 bucks, you can get the girls from Maxim Club with top quality. Trust me, once you go to that club you do not want any other girls. They deserve every penny of it. Along that street and around the corner there are also other bars with girls in them. The majority of them will want $100 because you're not Vietnamese.
Note: Do not pick up any girls on the streets nor any girls under 21. Most of them are strung out on heroine. Big cities, lots of drugs and deseases. And always use condoms unless you're way down south of the country where there are no tourists and the girls are not exposed to foreingers with deadly deseases such as HIV.
Be safe and have fun!
Hi all,
My 10 days in Saigon is finished, so I will post what I found out abouth the town.
It is easy to find girls if you know where to look, it's not so open as other asien countries.
The best place I found was in the kissing bar's, and U2 is very good.
Do not and I know some already told me that but DO NOT sai yes to the girls on a moterbike at night time who ask you to go for massage!! it's very dangerus, I am a big man who can take care of my self so I only wasted some time.
I met the most beautifuld girl ever in asia, and I have been in asia more or less for 7 years and she was not a SW so no info on her, she is only my.
Enjoy Vietnam, maybe the best country in asia and the most beautifuld girls.
BlueWolf
Turbo Carl
02-05-04, 17:38
BlueWolf,
Is it possible to bring in my wife to the "kissing bars" and "U2"?
What kind of bar are this, like bars in Thailand?
Were can we go with a bar girl, have they rooms in the bars, or a nearby short-time hotel?
Could you send me the adresses of the locations?
Thank you in advance,
TurboCarl
Hey Poon Searcher,
Great report, thanks. Is Maxim's on Dong Khoi, next to the Majestic?
Poon,
Your description of Maxim sounds too tempting. I gotta check it out when I'm there next month.
Kinda sad but I've been in and out of HCMC for the last 5 years and never took the chance of getting some side action. An incident that occurred in '99 got the worse of me and I never thought about it since then.
I got to HCMC for the first in December of '99 and was really looking forward to my stay, girls et all. Stayed with a buddy of mine who rented a "townhouse'' on Le Than Ton (more like off to the side streets). Anyway, the house next door was also a bunch of foreigners and suffice to say, on the 2nd night I was there, we had just gotten back from a club when we noticed our neighbors hanging outside. It's almost 4 a.m. and they're having a smoke looking a tad nervous about something. It turns out that two of the guys had brought back pros from some club and for some reason, the beat cops (that's what I call the buggers walking the beat swinging their clubs back and forth) 'raided' their place. Cut a long story short, the 2 guys had to pay their way out of it. Anyway, that freaked me out 'cos I'd been told that it has happened in the past but usually at some motel.
Opportunities arised on several occasions but I didn't have the f--cking balls for it. For one reason or another, I felt like we were being watched almost every evening there.
Anyway, I promised to pamper myself to death when I got back to Bangkok but instead got curios about Hanoi so we headed up there for my last 3 days. Oi, what a brilliant move that was. On the first day there, we met up with some friends of friends who offered to play guides during our short stay. The one female is a foreigner but she had already made a name for herself in Hanoi. Seeing that there's these desperate tourists, she offered to take us clubbing with some friends at Apocalypse. I was introduced to this petite Hanoi beauty who spoke brilliant English and who turned out to be one of the new upcoming young female entreprenuers in Hanoi. We hit it off from the get-go and suffice to say, I woke up with a smile on my face. She was caliente and take my word when I say I lucked out big time. I am comparing her to the women I know from the 13 years I've spent in the fashion industry in NYC. Stuff like this happens only once in my lifetime.
The thing is I ain't no stud but I noticed that the women there (the ones we were introduced to anyway) took a liking to foreigners. I asked her about it and she replied stating that there is a large number of very successful young female entreprenuers in Hanoi those days and that most are not a tad bit interested in the local VN guys. So, whenever they get a chance to hook up with a foreigner, they'll jumped at it. Ask my buddy; he got screwed once too many times. By the time we got back to HCMC for my flight out, he needed a vacation just to recover from that vacation.
Anyway, fast forward years later. I still keep in touch with her and she's doing far better than she ever did. Thing is I got married last year and she's re-acting to that. I guess it's time to 'look' elsewhere for my next trip next month. That's why I'm back on this board snooping around for the first time since I did years ago.
I've been so focused with spending time with her in mostly HCMC the last few trips that I never noticed changes around me. I work during the days and see her in the evenings. Simple and pleasant with no worries.
That said, I'm enjoying reading the threads here and 'listening' to your experiences. Picked up a few good points so I'm looking forward to this upcoming trip in a different light.
If anyone's gonna be in town at the same time, feel free to drop me a line. Beers on me. I'll be in HCMC from the 10th to 19th March.
T.-
Poon Searcher
02-07-04, 21:10
Templar,
Your incident in 99 does happen occasionally. Very rare . Every once in awhile the cops will do a sweep. The best solution to that is stay in a smaller hotel. Those hotels do payoff the cops a hefty sum every month. That's not including gifts for Chinese New Year,Christmas, and etc. Or the owner has very close ties with top government officials.
If a sweep ever come up,the cops will notify them and they will notify you. That is why some hotels on the day of the sweep will ask you to have 2 rooms just in case there is a sweep in the middle of the night. One for you and one so the girl can run over to during a sweep. When it's over she can come back into your room. I usually stay at "Thang Long Hotel" whenever I'm in Saigon. I never had a problem. Get a suite for only $40 a night. It's not luxurious but comfortable enough. The staff and the owner(Kim) are very nice and pleasant to deal with. They also speak some English. And if you ever get into trouble with the cops,the almighty $50 or $100 will get you out of it.
As for sussessful women wanting foreingers. It's true . Most of those women belongs to a class(family) that has ties with the communists. There are lots of locals guys that are very successful. And I mean filthy rich in terms of USD mostly in the millions and a few in the 100s of millions and billions.
Most of those women have studied abroad and came back to run the family business. Why not a male in the family? Because it is alot easier for a woman to con a foreinger to marry her or the family will pay for her sort of marriage. Once she has legal status in another country which has a stable economy they will try to sponsor other family members and eventually move some of their assets away from the eyes of greedy government officials. It is not easy to be successful in Vietnam without any connections. Not just the industry you're in but the government itself. Not knowing the right people in the government and having deep pockets ,you'll never get the proper license(s) for the type of establishment you pursue. If your family had ties with the former South Vietnamese government,then forget about success. It's almost impossible. H..l,my cousins have been trying to get jobs with the govenment for years and they have been denied every time because their father was a General for the South Vietnamese government. Alot of American-Vietnamese have returned in search of fortune but the vast mojority have failed miserably due to lack of proper connections.
Poon Searcher
02-07-04, 21:27
Mag,
I'm not too good with street names but I believe it is next to the Majestic Hotel but I'm not exactly sure. If the Majestic Hotel is right across the street from "Bach Dang" harbor then it is right next to it. Ask any cab drivers they will tell you. That club has been there since the glorious days of the South.
Go in and go upstairs to the second floor. The first floor is the restaurant. The second floor is the club. There is a cover charge of if I remember correctly 50,000 vd which is approximately 4 usd. I never pay that because the waiters know me and I tip them all at the end of the night which amount to alot more than what the cover charge is.
Poon,
Thanks for the tip on Thang Long Hotel. I'll check it out.
As for the women having connection to the communists. Very true. My friend's family was. And as for the rich guys, once again you hit the nail on its head, bro. Filthy is an understatement.
And yeah, my Viet-Kieu friends are having a difficult time breaking through. If you don't mind me saying this, you sound like a Viet Kieu yourself 'cos foreigners don't usually know these things unless....
Did you check LIQUID (club) out? How is it doing? I was last there in July and my friend turns out to be the manager. Hadn't seen this guy in over 20 years. There were loads of beauties around then.
BTW, are you in VN right now?
Poon Searcher
02-09-04, 10:30
Temp,
Yes I am . Have lived in the States since I was 6 years old.
For the last couple of years whenever I'm in Saigon I normally go to Maxim everynight after a message session. God, those girls at some of the hotels give killer messages especially when they walk on your back and you can hear your spine crack from top to bottom. If you haven't tried that yet,I suggest you do. A full hour message plus a hand job for about 20-25 usd and that's including tip. And if you want more you can always ask for the girl's cell number. Some will ,and some would just stick with the messages. Ask the guys on the motorbikes to take you to the ones that is away from the tourist area. The girls in those hotels tend to do a better job than the ones in the tourist area.
I have been going to Vietnam every year since 96 normally for the month of March . Usually the first week is in Thailand,second week in Saigon,and the rest way down south of the country for the rest of the time (this is where you get the non-pros and semi pros with no deceases). This year I have some business to take care of at the beginning of March. Also this last March when I was there,the weather was really beginning to bother me. Too damn hot and too damn humid! Also the scenery is starting to get old for me. So I'm thinking of heading to Brazil or Argentina, or Costa Rica this time. Latin women, doesn't matter where I've been but I just have to crawl back to them.:)
Was in HCMC last year November.
I always stay at the New World Hotel. Nice , in the center of the city. SW are there wnen you walk out. They normally ask for $100 USD. Did not mind them instead went to Catwalk. A High-end Disco with more than 100 mouth watering beautiful women. None for the taking, though. SW with a friend approach me and and asked for $100. I was not interested. She had a 9 look, 20 years old, but she was just an inch taller than a hobbit when she takes off her 6 inch heels. To turn her off I said $20 and she said, OK. High end Hotels in HCMC are very strict so we went short time and paid an additional $20 in a local hotel beside New World. OK sex but just tasting Viet meat. Viet girls being short have really small and tight pussy so its fun.
Will tell more later.
Common mistakes & lessons to be learned by horny foreigners traversing nightlife in Viet Nam:
1.) Incorrectly assuming the scene is user-friendly like Thailand or most other S.E. Asia venues is a BIG newbie mistake.
2.) Not realizing that The Socialist Republic is STILL a totalitarian police state with lots of undercover police, informants and other political/corrupt BS than can degenerate very badly at the mafia street level.
3.) Not knowing the REAL price, not bargaining, becoming another ruinious fool and rip-off victim in the local scene.
4.) FLASHING big cash, wearing expensive clothes, jewelry, etc. - especially a problem with way too many naive, foolish, arrogant Viet Kieu.
5.) NEVER fall for a VNese local who speaks English so well he can find, 'the best hotel deal, the best transportation, the best bar, the best girls, etc.' A VNese who intros any foreigner or local person for a service gets a minimum 20% cut from the service provider. In other words, avoid such everyday institutional rip-offs or scams!
6.) ST private mini hotels in VN are $3-$10 max. There are many tourist class private hotels in the $15-$25 range that are more likely decent LT choices. If a girl takes you to "her" ST mini hotel at $15-$20 you are simply paying her an add-on commission. Plus, in a worst case senerio it could be a staged robbery or shakedown since she may be in total control, not you.
7.) LUXURY hotels (4-5 star), similar STATE owned or JV hotels are NOT guest friendly. Again, there are many decent guest friendly options but they are always PRIVATELY owned accomodations.
8.) STUPID SEX: Falling victim to "hundred dollah" or even "fifty dollah" nonsense and not realizing that the standard "get laid" price all across VN is routinely VND100000-300000 ST. Certainly an average higher rate in HCM City - but anyone paying VND700000+ is simply ruining the scene for everyone else. The national GDP annual income is less than $500 to around $1000-1200 annual in HCM City. Punters should always engage in friendly negotiation and seek a variety of nightlife venues in Viet Nam.
9.) Because selling sex is highly illegal and stigmitized learning a bit of the VNese language, culture, customs, can go a long way to unlocking many inside secrets. Plenty of lovely young women are available for free or virtually free as eager love/sex companions for foreigners on holiday. Most local VNese young males are not seen as suitable partners because of their lack of income and economic upward mobility. A large number are street thugs and criminal scum.
10.) DO NOT put pics of girls or vital secret info on the internet as that poor Viet Nam individual or specific intity could be fined, imprisioned, sent off to reducation work camp, or worse, as such unwanted publicity can turn them into potential state or personal targets.
Copyright. The Erotic Traveler (TET) w/permission.
Priceless ;)
Thanks, Asiaphile.
Member #1627
02-13-04, 01:48
Hi,
Can anyone recommend me some safe/secure hotels which are also "girl-friendly", in HCMC (Saigon). I'm going to spend 2 nites there.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Hello, guys, I'm new here and went to HCMC in the beginning of Feb. Went to a lof of disco so let me tell you some my experiences.
About disco: I recommend you 3 discos in HCMC. The traits are followings.
1. Apocalxpse Now: Needless to say, this disco is popular among tourists and expats, so quite a lot chicks speak or communicate in English although very easy chatting something like what's your name? Where are you from? How old are you? Somes have more skills. Here, almost all girls are Working Ladies I think. If some pussycats who try to catch eye contact, are definetely WL. I could see some eye-catching chicks. But price is quite high, and the sad thing is they don't compromise the price, some ask US$100.
2. Liquid club: This disco is i think especially for local compared to AN. Because I couldn't come across foreigners when I visited there. But i think there are some freelance ladies, so tried to communicate with some chicks. The result was no one could understand English. The good thing was they welcomed donce with me with smile.
If you guys can speak Vietnamuse, I recommend this place rather than AN because the quality of chicks is hotter in Liquid.
3. Cau Lac Bo So 1: There are so many sexy chicks here although they are waitress, blooming with health and youth. I strongly reckon to be employed here as this waitress is very difficult and competitive because these chicks are tremendous beautiful. I think this disco is a bit exclusive one ad customers are high income vietnamese or expats. Every customer except us ordered bottle of whiskey and having a drink it with waitress. For a person who is on a budget! no need to worry about it, you can order your beer and ladys drink, so waitress come to your seat and can chat. But there is one big problem, every babes only can speak vietnamese. So I didn't know what happened after having a drink with waitress.
In conclusion, if you are seeking for feast your eyes, Do go to Cau Lac Bo so 1 without hesitation!
If you wanna bonk, go to Liquid in case you have a weapon of language.
The rest, go to AN!
Enjoy your hunting.
Pokochin
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Asiaphile,
Nice, thanks!
Last November was out with suppliers to an OK bar. Mamasan had special show for us. Pingpong shooting from pussy and the usual get the money from the bottle using the pussy gig. Girls were cute and wild. Expect no english at these places. One girl caught my eye. Probably French-Chinese-Vietnamese mix, in other words stunning. I was being polite to one of our guest so I gave him the first choice. Guess who he picked.?
Had a cute Vietnamese looking girl instead, an 8, but short. They said no problem to bring to New World, but I should go first. Went back to hotel and girl came 15 minutes later. She stayed for whole night sex. Was`surprised next morning when I woke up and opened the light. Girl looked like a minor which i did not notice the night before. I had too much drinks and it was kinda dark in the OK. Supplier said everything had been taken care of but I still gave the girl $10 next morning. She left early, before 6, probably to avoid too many people in the lobby.
Now, before leaving the bar, they were still "negotiating the price" of the stunner. Mamasan said she is a virgin and they were asking for $500. A fortune in Vietnam. Not sure how much our guest paid, but he was also able to bring the girl to New World. He had this really big smile next morning during breakfast.
Will be back In HCMC next month.
Silly Puppy
02-19-04, 04:02
A French-Chinese-Vietnamese and virgin (at 17) is extremely hard or impossible to find in current Viet social culture/society. In another word I don't believe it and I think your friend was paying too much for a fake! There are a lot of stories about this problem in VN. There are plenty of crooks going after stupid foreigners (especially Taiwanese, Chinese businessmen who stupidly believe virgins bring luck to their business) with their make-believe virgins to get maximum profit. Knowledge is weapon, this is why I am warning all of you not to fall for this trick.
When I was young and still lived there, all the mixed race girls lost their virginity at around 14. In fact, my first girl friend did it with me when she was only 13. These girls have standing-out and different looks thanks to their Western blood, and are much more endowed than common Viet girls, you know.
Dog Day,
I think your article is a bull_shit made up story. Vietnam is not Thailand. Which bar in Vietnam has show "Pingpong shooting from pussy and the usual get the money from the bottle using the pussy gig." ?
C'mon, get real dude.
Turbo Carl
02-19-04, 19:58
Hi,
I am next month in Saigon.
Does anyone knows a good, clean and saftely short time hotel in District 1?
Thank you very much in advance.
TurboCarl.
Ok guys,
I do not know the exact location of the bar.. its three blocks down from the park beside New World. Its a karaoke frequented by Mainland Chinese. First floor had aquariums and i thought it was a seafood restaurant. I was the only non-chinese in the room since my suppliers were from Shanghai.
If you do not believe my story thats fine. but its true. It was a semi-wild party that I myself can not believe happens in HCMC.
Picking up girls in HCMC. Around 10 p.m. I was in the Cantonese/ Teppanyaki restaurant just across the New World. ( You wont miss it as this in the other side from the park) and the waiter said if I wanted to play with a barbie girl. I have no idea what he meant, but just guess he was pimping, and I said yes. I asked him how much? He said $20. I asked him if the girl is pretty and he said sure because he said girl is his school-mate. This guy can speak broken English. Ok, I agreed. He said wait, so I had a beer in the restaurant. (I am sure the restaurant had nothing to do with this) The waiter was very discreet since this is probably just a side line of his. He gave me a signal when the girl arrived, so went out. Girl had a pretty face, definitely mixed, but like most girls in the city, quite short. We went to a hotel just beside the restaurant. Same hotel I went with the SW in previous story. This time they were asking for my passport but the girl talked to them in Vietnamese and finally setlted when i paid $20 for the room. Girl was definitely young with hardly no English. She had an adolescent body, almost hairless. Sex was not pleasurable at all. She just wanted it done , paid and so she can leave. gave her $20 after the deed.
I will go back to HCMC next month and probably will not go back to that hotel with a girl. As Asiaphile said it is dangerous. I felt scared and also just want to finish and leave. The room the hotel will give you is on the very top floor. After the elevator reach the top elevator floor, you have to climb another set of stairs to reach the room. The room had no number.
I have a friend in Shanghai I met last month who have lived and worked in HCMC for 6 years.. I told him my experience and he told me when you have money you can do a lot in that city. He told me $10 for a girl is definitely more than enough. There are too many unemployed people in the city and wages available are really low. The waiter told me he earns $30 a month in his job in the restaurant.
Poon Searcher
02-20-04, 11:58
Carl,
Basically,District 1 is very safe. It is a tourist area .
Mini hotels: Thang Long Hotel , Huong Hoang Yen Hotel(Medal Hotel) .
Dog,
1. Your report is full of shit. There are NO strip joints in VN. So non of that pussy stunts!
2. French , Chinese, Vietnamese. Bi-racial or tri-racial in your case,those girls are known to be the wildest of all Viet girls. Virgin at 17, yeah sure! If you believe Michael Jackson is White.
3. What the hell do you or your friend see in a 17 year old? At that age they are still not fully developed and immature. How about waiting til they get to 21 years old.
4. If you think alot of the girls at those clubs are cute and wild , you are f..k.n blind. Most look like dogs. It doesn't matter where you go anywhere in the world the dogs will outnumber the hot ones by 10 to 1.
Silly Puppy
02-21-04, 01:55
Dog Day,
I have many Viet friends who are frequent mongers and none told me about the ping-pong-shooting-from-pussy club. I think it is in your head.
On $10 girls, yes, if you know the language and be nice to the locals. I had couple women (older) for $5 and felt so sorry for them that I tipped them $5 more afterward. These women were so poor but they had dignity to refuse my tips and only when I insisted that they accepted it. But only because I speak Vietnamese and I know how to deal with taxi, cyclo, or moto-bike drivers that I can get to them. If you don't speak the language just forget it or you may get robbed or even killed. But the lower you pay the worse the quality is. So don't expect much for $10 and I think with your Chinese background you may end up with a 50 year-old ho. Getting to these cheapie's is not easy and requires a strong heart, not just muscles. I recommend you not to dream about it or one day you will end up lying on a vacant street or in jail.
Well guys,
Sorry for you if you have not experienced the wild side of HCMC yet. Before this, I thought fun in that city will just be oogling those really pretty girls (Damn, 99% of the girls there are really good-looking) at that pricey bar beside the New World.
My Mainland Chinese suppliers have an office in HCMC and had been there for 3 years. They probaby know what "some people don't know." These suppliers really treat "us" customers very well.
Poon, it was not a strip club. It was a private show in a room inside a Karaoke bar. We were only 6 men and they kept a lineup of girls exclusively for their Mainland Chinese customers. If I remember right, my supplier paid $50 for that special show.
As far as age, I prefer above 21 year olds too. Probably 21 is considered old as far as that "Bar" is concerned, so all the girls were pretty young.
As far as the "virgin" is concerned, I do not care if she was really a virgin or not. I had my own cheap "take-out" that night. That's the personal business of that guy with me. I already had two virgins in Shanghai just this year and all a GFE for free!
So I do not need it
Poon,
How far is Majestic bar from New World? Will be back in HCMC next month so I wanted to go further than just the New World Block.
Thanks
Poon Searcher,
I see from seaching the web that Thang Long has a very nearby sister property called the Kim Long. Do you know if one should be considered over the other. The deluxe rooms at Kim Long all have a large balcony and face the street it looks like.
Carl,
I was there last month and I stayed at Hai Wan Hotel on Nguyen Thai Hoc. The staff are very friendly and we were able to bring the girls up to the room as long as they have their IDs.
Dog,
You either have really bad taste in women or you're just naive. Most of the SW in Vietnam have either jacked up teeth or they are just plain ugly. If you go to a bar or a club, you might find a decent looking one. But i'm sure you're not going to get her for 10 or 20 dollars.
Turbo Carl
02-23-04, 16:55
Poon Searcher,
Are the Hotels "girl-friendly"? Can I take a girl into my room without problems?
Thank you.
TurboCarl.
SW quality depends on where you stay. They know where the business is. Hai Wan Hotel, compared to New World Hotel?
Forgot to mention in previous posting, you can bring a "girl" in New World Hotel, but you have to pay an extra room. There are a few girls in the bar/coffee shop everyday from 10 to 12 PM. , sipping drinks waiting for a pick-up. These girls know the "policy" in the hotel, and will tell you that you need an extra room. I have talked to some but never took one. Although, the room rates are reasonable at around $70 a night, thats too much since you have to pay for the girl separately. These girls look older and definitely "pros".
Where can you get a $10 girl in HCMC? I gave the OK girl $10 as a "TIP", that is aside from bar fine in the OK bar.
James. Thanks for the advise. I am really lucky I am still breathing after those two "stupid sexcapades" with a SW and the girl referred by the waiter in HCMC. After a drink too much at the "Catwalk" , you can end up doing something stupid, specially the most they can offer you at their massage is a $20 HJ. (That Health Club is 5- Star though)
I have said it before, but it must to be repeated:
Staying at a $70+ 4-5 star GOVERNMENT or JV owned hotel like the luxury New World, Caravelle, etc. is foolish in HCMC IF the main reason you came is to party and get laid.
There are plenty of very nice, clean, newer, remodeled, 2-3 star tourist class PRIVATE mini hotels with lots of amenities like aircon, lifts, sat TV, free breakfasts, biz centers, car/driver, sauna/massage/karaoke bars, etc. These hotels (paying bribes to the police) are around $20 to $30 for a suite. Best of all, many are guest friendly if you are discrete. Tip the doormen or maybe there will be a small (say 50,000 dong) joiner fee. Do not be conned into paying for a second room. You never have too if you know what the hell you are doing and always discrete!
Dog Day,
FYI The New World Hotel is one block from the Hai Wan hotel. So the same SW go up and down that street. Actually, you couldn't really call them Street Walker since they are riding on the back of a motocycle looking for customers. I know we have this board to help one another out but next time, at least know what the hell you are talking about before you open your mouth.
But it's all good that you are spending $100 on the same girl that I fucked for $10. All it does is that it helps the next tourist get rip off.
And in any case, those girls have never really impressed me, there is no GF experience there. There are other opportunities however, that I will share on PM. All I will say is that it is necessary to take a risk. Study the faces of your Viet facilitators and pimps carefully.
Asiaphile,
I always go to HCMC for business so I stay in a 4-5 star hote. Anyway, as said by another monger "your advice is priceless". Will bear that in mind if ever I go to HCMC just for fun.
Whisper1,
How much is the room rate at the Hai Wan? Maybe I will stay there next time. Is it a good hotel for business trips?
Dog Day,
A room at Hai Wan hotel is $15/night. It's not a good hotel for business trips but it is a good hotel to take a SW.
Turbo Carl
03-08-04, 14:55
Did someone hear already once something over "Ngu trua om"?
I read the following article:
"Ngu trua om" is newest fashion in Viet Nam. One can select girls select by many girls (only beautiful) and go together into a room where you can smoke, drunk, speaking and naturally kissing as well is permitted. The price is approx. 40000 Viet Nam Dong (2.5 euro) plus tip and cigarette, beer, dte, naturally with superelevated prices. If one other needs has, can one with the girls constitute and after the work time (9-22,00 o'clock) meet. The girls do not have secured income separate get 5% of their earned and tip of the guests.
Did someone know such a place in Saigon?
Silly Puppy
03-09-04, 07:29
I did. This new fad is popular in Hanoi area but I am not sure about SaiGon. "Ngu trua" means short nap at lunch time which I think is useless unless all you want is to meet girls. In that case go to Maxim (close to the Grand) instead.
Hey fellas,
I'm gonna be in HCMC from April 3rd to the rest of April.
Anyone gonna be there and want to be a fellow mongerer? More Vietkieu here.
Where can I find barber shops near Sheraton Saigon that do extras services. Or for that matter, any good masssage parlours around the area?
Rude Beast
03-16-04, 15:47
Mr. Tran,
Yes, Ngu Trua means literally "short nap at lunch time" but it doesn't mean that. As a VK I would expect you to know that. and, I can't believe your fascination in Maxim's. Having read your previous posts I'm not sure why you are in this forum as you seem from memory to be negative about the whole experience. (of course as English is obviously your second language I could be completely missing the point of what you are trying to say).
Mike, what do you mean by "extras", most massages will do HJ's. Especially state owned hotels such as HS down from Sheraton with the 50,000VND for 30 minutes massage. Of course you have to negotiate the tip I generally follow this guideline: HJ: 100K, BJ, 150K, FS upto 300K and no service 50k depending on how surly she gets.
Deuce, do you mean you want more VK here or there are too many. IMHO there are too many. They spend three years working in kitchens and stacking supermarket shelves and come back thinking they are king trying to impress young girls by buying bottles of Remy or Henessy.
Rude Beast
03-16-04, 15:51
Apologies Mike, I was thinking of massage when you were asking about barber shops. There are a few places on Ham Nghi and the bottom end of Pasteur (near Ham Nghi). generally though near sheraton you are limited - I head out along Dien Bien Phu and near the Eastern Bus Station.. I did hear from a Korean friend that the place near hien & Bob's has extras and the place behind Mai Linh offices (opposite Monkey bar) also has extras.
I will be going to Vietnam next week, staying at the New World. What can i expect from the hotel massage staff? Will they go to your room or must you go to the hotel spa area?
Case Study
03-19-04, 00:25
Stressed,
Staff will not go to your room. Instead step outside your hotel. Go south one block. East one block pass the park. South again one block. You'll be in the vincinity of a dozen bars and a few clubs. Go in and have a few drinks and girls will approach you. Have fun, i'll come up with some actual names as soon as i remember them. It's been about 9 months since i was there last.
Silly Puppy
03-19-04, 04:31
Rudebeast,
What do you mean "to be negative about the whole experience"? As you seem to be a newcommer here I expect you need to follow the readings more carefully and may need to improve your reading efficiency a bit more ;)
Ngu Trua litterally means short nap and of course we (you and I) know it means a bit more than that. Being an expatriat and being able to read some Viet news should help me understand what "ngu trua" really means. It is no more than short nap with a girl next to you for groping, chatting, and no fucking, period. What else does it mean? You tell us!
Hello folks,
Rude Beast, yes I'm a Vietkieu. If you there are too many VK in vietnam, then IMHO I see Just As Many Obese/pot-bellied, Elderly, Bald, Obnoxiously drunk, nonvietnamese low-class foreigners in Vietnam who "come back thinking they are king trying to impress very young girls by buying them food! " So I really don't think you should go judging who the VK are; and I won't judge the nonvietnamese foreigners unless you provoke it, Rude Beast.
Anyway, anyone visit SpaTropic? Looks like a great place for a worldclass massage; and I'm unclear if there are any extras there, although I would guess it would be a lot more expensive than anywhere else.
Again, anyone who wants to meet up to fellow monger in HCMC during the month of April, please let me know.
Have fun getting some titty.
Silly Puppy
03-20-04, 16:43
Duece,
Rudebeast is a rude beast. His name means he can jump on everyone without being afraid of being called rude. Well, I think he has some reading and behavioral problems that he may need to improve. I am here to help him achieve that.
Rudebeast,
Your guideline sucks as it proved you have no clue what is going on in massage places. An East Indian friend of mine is also cheap like you and he could not get any HJ/BJ/FS. May I challenge you to share us some of your experiences?
Case Study
03-22-04, 05:09
James, Duece
You guys beat me to the punch. I dont mean to cramp everyone's style because the reason why most of us are here is because we like to have fun. I'll just leave it as that though would have to disagree with Rude Beast about the VK's.
The fact is most of us VK go back to VN because we love the country and if circumstances were different we would not have left in the first place.
That aside, man does anyone else agree with me that the Apocalypse Now have the highest pretty girls to guys ratio? I had heard of the place but because I was with my lady for 90 % of my last visit I couldnt really venture out. If anyone have had a positive experience with the girls there, let me know details.
Rude Beast
03-22-04, 17:17
Mr. Tran,
You can challenge me if you like but there is little point as you have indicated that you don't believe me.
Myself and Dirty Dog were posting here many years ago and had similar experiences. So, Mr. Tran I am no newcomer just can't be bothered in most instances to spoil my sectets.
I often have massage and hot toc and I know the going rate. I would be happy to take anyone along to my usual Hot Toc (VND 70,000 including, shampoo, face massage and BJ - no tip necessary) so long as you're paying.
Firstly, if I go to a new place I am invited by Vietnamese friends and colleagues if I choose to go back alone at a later date I am welcomed back. I have even told European friends addresses and they have had the same experience.
I know many girls here who will not service people of Indian or African descent. It's a fact. Which is why Mr. Tran,your friend may not get what he wants for the price. It also depend son how successful they have been that day.
Case Study, I am sure that some VK do come back for the reason you expressed and to those I apologise for my rant.
Deuce, I agree with you about obese, pot bellied etc, foreigners here.
But, this is not helping people who need information.
I was 1 time there at Apocalypse Now last year. was sitting with 2 girls. the one was old, 33y, but told me she was just 26. The other girl told me first she was 21, but her real age was 26. she was looking ok, when she is dressed, a cute face she have. But when she had taked off her clothes, she didn't impressed me anymore. There wasn't many girls in there. maybe it was too late, 1:30 AM. When we left AN, I saw lots of very good looking girls standing outside. I was wondering, where they appear. Is there another lacotion near AN?
Could anyone give me some info about up to date good lacations to meet good looking girls, to go out and have fun with, dont have to be working girls.
Was there one time at Apocalypse Now last year. I was sitting with 2 girls. The one was 33, but told me she was just 26. The other girl told me first she was 21, but her real age is 26. She was looking ok, when she is dressed. But when she had taked off her clothes, she didnt impressed me anymore. There were not many girls in there. Maybe it was too late, 1:30 AM. When we had left AN, me and the younger girl, there were lots of very good looking girls standing ouside. I was wondering, where they appear, is there another locations near AN?
How about good info about up to date locations to find good looking girls? Would like to meet some nice girls to go out or have fun with, dont need to be working girls.
Silly Puppy
03-23-04, 05:53
Rude Beast,
It is ok for not sharing. I hope you really DID go to the mentioned places and NOT just invent the info. You want to protect your secrets so you don't want to take the challenge. That is also ok. But everyone can say the same thing to hide his lies. Then why do you bother to come to this forum for? It is odd, isn't it?
You have not answered my question about "ngu trua". What does it really mean if you are so familiar with the country?
Johnny Jets
03-23-04, 07:52
Ho Chi Minh City March 3rd 2004
Stayed in a five star hotel and after dinner went to the bar and had a glass of wine. The chatty waiter said the bar was better than next door as it was smoky and had loud music.
Well there were no unattached women in the bar, I waited from 9:00 until 9:30pm.
So I went next door and there were two sets of girls sitting on their own. I sat behind one as her friend went and talked to another single man. She turned around and saw me and smiled, waving me to come and sit in the chair next to her, so I waved and said come and sit by me. She did and so did her ample cleavage.
Then I started to learn about her limited use of English about 20 words. She said straight away I like you and started stroking my arm and holding hands.
So I said you want to come to my room, she said yes. Then the fun started. Our floors in the lift were blocked off and we had to go to reception where she and receptionist (aged about 40) chatted away like they were buying an ice cream. Then she turned to me and said you want this person as you guest in your room, not showing any emotion at all, meanwhile I was going through quite a few emotions, said yes so we filled out an A4 piece of paper and my friend gave reception her ID and off we went to my room.
Then she said 500,000 only one pop, I said what about staying the night and it was hard to get the deal going. I gave up taking and we showered, bbbj, good sex and then straight away she went and showered, can understand why, but kind of ruins the sex, dirty etc.
Must use condom "no baby"
Found our she was 28 from her ID.
Then she said "sleep now", which was very sweet and only as Asian girls can do. Phone rang after about two hours and she said it was "my friend" when I think it should have been "her friend" and she said she had to go now. With the conversation so limited there was little point in arguing so she went.
I like the idea of picking up girls in the bars of the hotels you stay in is much easier and probably safer than going out to bars.
Gentlemen,
Just ignore the comments about Vietkieu that came from some assholes and let's go on with the discussion. Thanks
To J. Jets:
IMO you made several newbie mistakes that others can learn from even though maybe you had a sort of decent time...
Mistake One - Staying at a so-called "5 star" hotel. It sounds like The New World(?) which cannot by law allow overnight guests unless they are registered. In other words, she has to have checked into the place with you right behind her (fat chance!) or you have to book her a second room (ridiculous waste!). *See my valuable FAQ in this forum about guest friendly hotel strategies for VN.
Mistake Two - Overpaying her because you were viewed as just another big spender at another overrated "5 star" hotel. VND 5000000 (around US $35) for "one pop" is a minimum double the going rate in HCM City but perhaps an acceptable LT rate.
Mistake Three - Thinking you could get her LT but she could not accomodate because it was high risk for violating the law. You were not in danger but she could be hauled off to a reeducation camp if busted!
Mistake Four - Not learning much of anything about the real VN by surrounding yourself in a communist run/joint venture "5 star" luxury hotel. The longer a newbie confines himself to such plastic space the more likely he is to remain a permanent newbie in VN. Finally, the comment about "safer" than going to bars is either cowardly, laziness or reveals ignorance about what relative small dangers and types of risk exist anywhere in HCM City.
Don't take it personally as I inform in the hope others won't continue to make newbie mistakes, spoil and ruin VN for the rest of us.
Johnny Jets
03-24-04, 16:19
Asiaphile
Thanks for the comments on my experience and no I don't take offence as we are all learning.
I am visiting Vietnam next week on business. Will be in Hanoi and then HCMC. Can anyone tell me if the Sofitel Plaza in Hanoi is guest friendly and also some contacts in Hanoi will be much appreciated, as it seems the Hanoi board has not been updated for a long time.
Also need suggestions on a girl friendly business hotel in HCMC. Any specific bars / discos I should hit.
This is my first time in Vietnam and any suggestions / pointers will be much appreciated.
Fusch
Just want to add my 2 cents worth. I'm a Canuck whose origins are Indian and I lived in Saigon for 3 years. For those posters who think that Indians or Blacks are not well liked by the VNese girls or otherwise you are dead wrong. India was one of the firse countries to recognize an independent and united VN and most VNese know this. Most of my Indian friends were well liked by VN girls and in fact it was commonly known that they often preferred the looks of Indians over whites. I attribute this to the strength of the Indian film industry in VN over the past decades. Now that US movies are gaining entry this will likely change. In 3 years I never met a VN who was openly prejudiced except for southerners against northerners and vice versa.
As for hotel, forget trying to get any girl into a 5 star unless you check in with her. If she is there at check in then it is no problem as they assume she is a wife/gf and all is OK. For pickup girls you need a mini hotel. Frankly the girls are really smart and if you are in a hotel they will try to milk you for $ (sweetly of course). I recommend that you rent a house or flat in a serviced apartment if you are there for a week or more. Should be lots to be had. This lets you say that you are working in VN or about to start a job and look credible. Then you can negotiate the rates down as they will look at you as a long time customer. No different than your buy 10 get 1 free coffee card!
Hi folks,
I was at the Bar of the Que Huong/Liberty 1 Hotel at Hai Ba Trung Street the other day. They had a very good girl ratio there, with the one or other gem, but I had company then. So did someone else already have experiences there?
"India was one of the firse countries to recognize an independent and united VN and most VNese know this." Why would this make any girl more friendly to Indians? Do you think you're assuming other people are racially stereotyping? And why do you think most people in Vietnam like their government? Please. The girls like any foreigner because they just want to get out.
OldAsiaHand
04-04-04, 13:32
Fusch,
I was just in Hanoi recently and posted an update on that thread.
For Saigon, things haven't changed much over the years. I was in for 3 days and did the usual mongering in District 1. The BJ bars were an interesting experience for 20$. I reckon FS was available for the same price, but I wanted CIM. Most of the numbered bars have take out available for 50$ ST. I had a SW come up to the room for $20 ST but she was in a rush. Apocalypse Now was chock full of talent. Frankly, although the quantity is greater, I must say that the quality of the girls available and the service level was lower in HCMC compared with Hanoi.
Any suggestions from the regulars on this thread for better looking girls closer to GFE in Saigon?
OAH
"GFE" in HCM City or anywhere in VN means you generally do not have to pay for sex. Many if not most expats living in VN do not pay prostitutes for sex as they simply have a GF or several GF's who service them regularily with a smile. Yes, some will require a certain amount of "support" but that practice occurs everywhere. Most VNese girls do not want to be seen as prostitute since it's HIGHLY illegal and the society greatly stigmatizes them. Many VNese girls (and all the dirt poor ones) would die to have a foreign boyfriend who they could live with, travel with, and maybe marry, eventually moving to the west with. This "regular girl" or "semi-pro" situation is not found in very many other Asian countries. Such lovely VNese girls are all over the streets of HCM City, window shopping at Diamond Plaza, working in shops, riding 'round on their little moto, relaxing at the water park on the weekend, at a few upscale bars - not old burned out dives like AN!
James Khoa
04-06-04, 03:52
Finally got approved to WSG. Been in Vietnam for the last 1.5 years. Not long, but definitely not short (for someone who doesn't know where to get some).
Usual shagging involves picking innocent preys (not really that innocent, most of these girls know what they want, and though we think we are suckering them, usually its the other way around). Anyway, as long as we get what we "need" and they get what they "want" yeah?
Only last week, did I brave the "bars" of HCM. Got an older lady (early 30's maybe), for a 1st timer, I thought wadafark, go for it. It took less than 5 minutes of small talk (she spoke a reasonable amount of english) to drag my ass up the stairs. Price was negotiate (paid USD30 for a ST, not sure if this is a rip, or a standard, definitely not cheap for some grandmasters in here), again since its the 1st time, thought that will do.
Here is the interesting thing. The lady (Thuy), started a BJ of a lifetime! When she thought I was ready, she ran and started to look for a condom. Which she could not find. No way am I about to go raw, so she kept sucking again. Again, when she felt that I was about to cum, she ran off again, and started asking around for a condom. Other girls, started to go in and out of "room" looking for it. Finally after sucking for 25 mins all up. They finally found it. Jammed her with my "blue balls" and due to the situation, probably had one of the best "rocket take off".
Overall, pretty damn satisfied, cost with minimal negotiation cost around USD40 (includes 1 beer, 2 "lady drinks", 1 mega long BJ, 1 tight fark, 1 happy customer). Defintely return to the joint again, but negotiations will kick in and I'll see if I can bring the overall cost down to USD30 (if not, I'm going anyway, ha ha ha)
Happy Jamming fellas
Gentlemen,
Media in VN recently published articles about hidden cameras were placed in dark rooms, where couples were having fun time together, and recorded the actions on tapes or VCDs and then sold them on the market or via the Internet.
So be alert and on the look out for those hidden cameras, guys!!!
Visited the Yawara massage parlor across from the entrance to the Sheraton. They usually have a couple of hawkers downstairs at the street level to guide you up to the 3rd floor. The premises were pretty run down but the rate, 125, 000 for a 1 hour "Thai" massage was reasonable and I had some time to kill. My masseuse was a pretty, petite girl named Huynh, #10. About 30 minutes into the course she started to play with my cock and we negotiated a $20 hand job. After a very short time she put my hand on her breast and told me she wanted to go the route. " I fuck you so good for $50. " I was giving this some thought as my brother down south nodded his own agreement. Before I really could get my head around what was happening she was stripped down and mounting me bareback. I know, I know, but. the thrill of doing something so crazy was as good as it gets, heightened by the fact that we had to keep somewhat quiet; I sensed that she wasn't supposed to do this and we only had a 1/4 inch of plywood between us and the rest of the world. On the table, against the wall, DATY, bare-back BJ, doggy - in short a cram course in raw, unbridled and passionate sex for 30 minutes, the best ever. Regrets? I've had a few, but then again. I'll let you know how it turns out in a few months when I go for the test.
James Khoa
04-09-04, 05:03
Magnet45,
Well done man! Thanks to you, some of us, will be avoiding the massage joint. Any place that is willing to go bareback, is off limits to me personally. Not trying to be rude though, still reckon that is bloody brave of you. And I can imagine, if it was me, a pretty petite young tight twat pussi which decides to jam without asking, I'll probably succumb to temptation too. (which is why we should all carry some rubber with us.) Good show man, keep us updated with your results.
Back to posting reports. I'm sure a lot of you have heard stories about the massage joint at "New World Hotel". Here's my update. Been to the massage joint twice. 1st time I went up to the 3rd floor? or was it the 6th floor? Anyway the massage joint "inside" the hotel premises. The massage was way more expensive than most joints (kinda expected that I suppose). Girl comes in, dissappointed in looks, figure and size. She was quite ... tall ... a little big (not fat, but big). On the plus side, she spoke a good amount of english. "Special Hand" massage cost VND500g!!! I told her, I can get a gorgeous girl for a ST in HCM for that amount, and a LT (decent looking girl) in my province (where I work). She asked, I offered. VND120g (and that is still mega rip I know, but I am still working my price down, takes awhile). End up, she wanted VND300g minimum, amazingly, my pocket won the fight compared to my "fella". Told her nicely, sorry I'm so poor, I cannot afford a HJ, ha ha. And left it as it was.
Overall, pretty dissappointed, but not to be dettered by 1 visit. I went again. This time, to the "other" massage joint in New World, next to the pokies. Girls were a little prettier, but still nothing to shout about. Again damn expensive, and a HJ is a HJ right? Could not negotiate lower than VND200g, and again I decided to opt out. But the girl did give me her phone number, wanted me to call her for a night cap. (can't imagine what the price will be).
Bottom line is New World is not as great as it seems, for some who has been to much cheaper places, but just as decent, and some even better. The price is just not worth the trip, the girls are average, most people misunderstand and say they are like models. Yes, Model height, but not looks. I don't get off better with a tall girl wanking me compared to a petite girl. Its the service that counts. Imagine a girl who expects VND500g, we pay her 20%, she is only gonna give you about 20% effort. A girl who hopes to get VND100g, you give her close to that, she will wack that monkey of ours to kingdom CUM!
So boys, don't feed those un-appreciative sluts, feed the appreciative *****s.
Was In HCMC lat week.
James, you are right the New World Sauna beside the Catwalk bar is expensive. I like it though because it is really a clean establishment. Really great marbled floors with top class hot and cold jacuzzi. Clean rooms, sheets, towels, etc. They will give you a photo album and you can choose the girl that will give you a massage. I did not request anything special because I know the most they can give you is a HJ in that joint. And I feel $20 is too much to pay for a HJ.
Anyway, my story. Went to ALEEZ BOO, a popular watering hole across the park from New World. At night this park is filled up with couples dating. Sitting on their motorbikes, or on the grass., park benches, hugging, smooching. Nice sight to see that its the same all over the world. There are even police men patrolling the park so it feels like a safe place. Now ALEEZ BOO is frequented by backpackers. Not fancy , but cool. The cute promo girl of Carlsberg approached me and asked me to buy a Carlsberg, of course. I did get one, and another, and another. She spoke some decent english and was quite attractive. We talked a bit and he said it was her day-off the next day. I invited her for lunch the next day since my flight leaves later that night. She said yes, so I gave her my room number at the New World. I was thinking she was just being kind so I never thought she will even show up. Next day at 11:30 I got a call from the lobby and she was there. We had lunch in the hotel and chat a bit. She hinted she needed some money. The amount was $40 USD when converted, so thats OK. I asked her if she wants to go to my room. She was dressed simple and casual so the hotel people did not ask when we went to the elevators. Maybe I was just lucky. in New World, I notice the hotel people questioning the girl if she is dressed liked a ****, when she goes to the elevators. In my room we chat a bit. I knewI do not have much time so held her hand. She smiled which was like the green light. She was 21, had a great body, really cute face. She was not tall, probably 1.60. We had great sex and I came 3 times.. She obviously was not a pro but she follows the rhytmn. Gave her the $40 and she left. One big mistake was I forgot to get her number. I am not going back to HCMC for a while so hope she still promos in ALEEZ BOO when I do have a chance to go back this year.
Hello fellas,
Been in HCMC for 1 week now. Have been carousing around in the evening after work almost everyday, and here's my report of where I meet women:
1) At some of the expensive outdoor cafes where people sit there to people watch. Turns there are quite a few groups of women that just sit there looking for men to pick them up. I had the luck of sitting down with 2 young women. One was an ex-singer turned real estate agent, and the other a vietkieau from Australia. After chatting with them for 30 minutes, their female friends kept showing up, for a total of about 8 woman total at the table joining me and my 1 other male friend. There were 2 cosmeticians, 2 models, the ex-singer, 1 vietkieu, 2 textile designers. They wanted me to go with them to a karoke bar. I refused and made them follow me to Saloon 17. They came, and we stayed their until closing. They were boozing it up, and actually paying their own tab wherever we went. After the Saloon 17, they dragged me to some bar they knew would stay open until 2am, and they had already reserved a table ahead of time by paying for 3 bottles of VSOP REMY. Each bottle was about $70USD. I told them I didn't bring enough cash with me, and they told me to hush, cause it was all paid for. I got quite drunk, and met more of their friends, and these women were a lot of fun. They wanted to stay out all night, and the group wanted me to take the ex-singer home to fuck. Had to work next day, so passed. Got their numbers, and they kept calling and calling me.
Seemed like I was with the rich and famous of Vietnam. Was a lot of fun until I told them a second evening that I did not want to go out with them. They gave me an ultimatum to go out with them or never hear from them again. Since work is just as important as pussy, I let it pass, and haven't heard from them since. Very interesting people.
2) Various bars, great to pick up women that are in groups that don't mention any form of money up front, who don't seem like callgirls. They really love Vietkieu!!! Speak the language, and you will quickly find out Vietnamese women love to talk dirty just shortly after meeting them.
What fun.
Deuce99
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I heard that there is a HC that offers real twins for service in Vietnam. Does anyone know of this HC. Please let me know.
Cheers
EazyDan
I regularly go to Ho Chi Min with and without the Missus who is Vnese. You have to be careful when you are at the top hotels especially New World with taking Vnese girls in there. They don;t assume they are you GF/Wife. I had to produce a copy of my marriage Certificate to be allowed to stay in the same room. If you meet a girl you want to take to your room best do it during the day or early evening. Other girls I have met there have just said what floor are you on etc and found their own way up. I have only ever had a problem at the New World the rest don't seem to mind as long as you walk confidently in and straight to your room.
Well this is my first report since I was just recently approved by WSG.
I am stuck in the US working now longing to go back to VN. Last time I was there was 08/03. But I think I can provide some of you guys with some info. if you want because I was there often from 99-01. Like 10 times back and forth.
All those people of stays in the fancy hotels for over $100/day, I just don't get it. Not unless the company pays for it, why stay there. There are many hotels at $20-40/day that are just as good but you get way better service.
These places are clean. Marble floors and better bathroom than some motel or hotels over here. They have AC, cable and all the things you would want for 1/4 the cost. All the money you saved, you can put toward you know what..
I have tapes of my experiences so maybe if I get to know you enough, I will share it with you. But I will throw this out.
My trip back in 08/03, was one of my best ever. I went to this Karoke bar at Spaceship. Hooked up with this girl there, maybe an 7 in looks and body. But she was one of the best fucks I had over there and I had many over there. She gave the best BBBJ ever, tossed my salad, and she was game to do anything. Fucked her like an hour or more since I was boozing that night. Then came in her mouth since her BJ was so damn good. She has a sister that they usually do threesomes with. I can't wait to go back to hook up with them again. I got all this on tape.
Damn I love that country.
James Khoa
04-17-04, 09:51
Recently had the chance to visit the infamous 74B bar on Hai Ba Trung.
First thing you notice is there is hardly any lighting at all. (Guess that way, you won't know what the girl looks like). Didn't even have the chance to sit at the bar, before some girls started urging me upstairs (good and bad, felt a bit rushed, but hey, I'm not there for small talk either). Up I went (must have climbed 3 floors), notice working girls on every level (not much to look at though, they were very average in looks).
Arrived on the highest floor (3rd floor) and the girl who was following behind me all this time finally spoke. Man she had bad teeth! In last than 5 minutes (maybe even shorter), she grabbed my pocket buddy, and asked me to take her to a hotel.
I was thinking to myself, "Hell No", but I thought I will ask the price anyway. She wanted USD50/ST. Honestly, she should pay me to do her... but I kept that to myself.
Beer wasn't that expensive (for such a bar), at least cheaper than some (VND25,000). Back in my province, beer goes for VND8,000... the things I do for some pussies.
Gonna try 74C... or was it 74A, next chance I get. If any of you chaps been there recently, give us a report.
BTW, you guys know any other Massage places, which provides a clean place, with DROP DOWN GORGEOUS chicks?
The cafe Deuce mentioned: I am guessing it is Cafe Cocktails (not sure if I got the name right, but it is located at Sin Wah Tower, same building where Citibank is. Nguyen Hue street). There are lots of chicks (good looking ones too), but never had similar experience. It is nonetheless a good pick up joint though.
Poppasan,
Any more report from VN as I am in the region at the moment I may be heading that way in the next month or two.
Thanks
You are so right on that one Asianphile. I have been back since 99 and I usually don't pay for most of my girls. I usually just buy them a gift like perfume or watch and they are all yours. They love it when you think about them enough to buy them a present. But I usually buy 10 bottles of perfume so I can just give one to whoever I run into.
Most well some of these girls will not want your money if they like you. They just want to hang around with you. Take them to dinner or lunch a few times and that is another girl in your pocket. Just save their number and whenever you need a fuck, call them up and they will come over.
It is true there is an exclusive club in Saigon that has girls dancing naked on stages. I can provide the address if anyone is interested. You need a local to take you there.
One tip, don't go looking for girls. Just try to find a mommy and you are set. She will bring the girls to you.
Silly Puppy
04-18-04, 16:48
According to a local Vietnamese newspaper the Viet police just closed AN charging suspicious prostitution and drug activities. They said they wanted to create a healthier environment for younger Viet generation. Well, we know this is all power and money struggling between Commie party members and other AN's will emerge soon.
Been in Saigon for the past three days. Hot and humid as hell! Food is good and plenty of girls but my action has been very limited. The first night we went to spaceship and the place is pretty dead. Not too many girls at all. Then we headed over to Apocalypse Now, the place was hoping with music and quite a mixed crowd. The girls seem to have gone there with their guy friends so didn't really attempted to pick any of them up. Afterwards, we headed over to Catwalk. Plenty of good looking, well=dressed model looking girls. Very expensive. Drinks and girls. The girls will sit and dance with you but when the night was done, i asked one of them to go out. She wanted 150 usd. The end of that story. Overall, the club was very nice experience because the girls in there are real hot and sexy. Price wise, it will blow your budget to hell. Be willing to spend the Benjamins to get action there. I will be here for another 3 days then onto bangkok.
Poppasan,
If you have the tapes, let me know if you want to sell them.
Art Fartzalot
04-20-04, 07:01
Hi,
I will be visiting Vietnam for the first time July 21, for 4 days only arriving by ship in Halong Bay, ship has arranged a bus to take passengers (non-mongers majority) to Hanoi, where we can either (a) stay and then return to the ship , using the ship as our base (b) stay in Hanoi, (c) stay in Hanoi maybe that day and get up the next day and fly to Ho Chi Minh City/Saigon.
About 10/12 years ago approx a friend went and stayed in Ho Chi Minh city and recommended a place called The Hawaii Hotel run by a Hawaiin Vietname person, I am wondering if this place is still open.
This person also visited and I believe stayed at the Rex Hotel which I believe there still is a "Rex Hotel" and they said that they felt the Rex was a bit expensive but had some decent girls at therer Disco Dance Club- and am wondering on anyones experiences here.
Some of the group is planning on staying at the Majestic Hotel and would appreciate any imput on this place/ good /bad or indifferent and as to its location to potential monger situations.
To other places that were recommended to me were the Caravelle Hotel which I found " a Caravelle Hotel still renting rooms on Expedia.com" and the Palace Hotel.
I don't have to stay with the group necessarily but would want to prebook my rooms as I don't speak the language, etc and do have to be back on ship at end of fourth day meaning I have to fly back to Hanoi from HCMC.
I am also considering a trip from HCMC to Ankor Watt, Cambodia with 2 days is this including travel time back and fourth from HCMC to Ankor Watt is this to much of a rush.
Thanks in advance for your review and time and appreciate any imput.
Art,
I would recommend a hotel on Le Thanh Ton. Either All Asia Hotel or Dai Loc I think. They are next to each other. Very friendly..They know what's up. You bring a girl back, they will ask for the girls ID to protect you. When the girl leaves in the morning, they can't go until the front desk call you to make sure everything is ok before they let the girl have her ID back. That is a plus. No need for extra room here.
These hotels are a lot cheaper than Caravelle and the other fancy hotels that would cost you over $100/night.
As for SW, last time I saw some on Hai Ba Trung street. But these are risky. I rather go to the Karoke bars or clubs since they force these girls to get tests once a month. A little safer.
Enjoy
Traveler Tom
04-21-04, 08:11
Watch out for the Caravelle Hotel
It may have changed but it was a pain in the arse for girls. Not only did they want you to take a second room but, if they felt that the second room was for the cutie that you have just found they might even refuse entry. Girls from the top floor bar could get to the rooms from above (if you were prepared to pay the price).
It may have changed but it is worth checking before hand. I ended up in some crazy short-time hotel which worked fine although there was a slight feeling of 'uneasiness'. This two years ago so perhaps all has relaxed by now but I still hear that some of the hotels are not all that cooperative - getting them there and then being refused entry is a double disaster!
TT
Art Fartzalot
04-22-04, 07:17
Thanks for the 2 hotels, found out ship arrives Halong Bay on Wed July 21 and departs Sunday July 25 9 pm so have 4 days for my first visit to Vietnam.
Is it to much for one who doesn't speak the language to even think about going from ship to Hanoi , ship provides transportation then by air to HoChiMnCity/Saigon then to Ankor Watt then back to HoChiMinCity back to Hanoi then ride back to ship.
Would I be better off just staying in Ho Chi Minh City OR just going there , then hopping plane from there to Ankor Watt?
I don't want to spend all my time in and out of airports , going to and from.
Tamurlane26
04-22-04, 16:10
Agreed the Caravelle is an amusing place to try and take someone in to . My friend was given a blowjob in the carpark from frustration and shot just before being caught by security.
The smarter way is to take the girl in during the day - was reliably informed and proved it - that between 9am - 8pm there is little security.
In my case got the girls to meet me at the Saigon Saigon on a Sunday afternoon and proceeded straight to the room - there discovered that the friend also enjoyed a little lesbian encounter so had two for the price of one in the afternoon.
The Dai Loc is also a good place and there is one close to the New World Hotel that is the same - no problems with girls coming in - also there is a hotel at the back of the Camarque run by a Brit where they dont seem to care as long as you are not too stupid about it - these are much safer than the short time hotels that they try and get you to go to.
RatuFreddie
04-26-04, 11:36
Serviced appartments are a great way to go and avoid a lot of the hassles. Pricing is comparable to the 4 and 5 star hotels, though. Never heard of anyone having trouble receiving guests there, just tell em it's your piano teacher. Skygarden, Parkland, Sheraton Towers, and so on, there are around 20 properties around HCM.
I was offered at USD20 (not including tips for girl) for a Blowjob in a Hot Toc loacted on the road to Dien Bien Phu.
Is that expensive?
If it is, can anyone tell me where I can get a more reasonable priced service.
Thanks
Mike Loan
Yes, US$20 is definitely a ripoff in HCM! Standard price VND100000 (VND60000 in Ha Noi, lower in rural areas). Tip no more than VND200000 for quick BJ. Total VND300000 (max!) = $19. Putting it into some perspective: OFFICIAL GDP annual income 2003 for VN = US$485. For HCM = US$870.
I am finally able to post, thanks to brother Jackson.
I've been to HCMC twice since March, what a nice city. Nice food, nice people, and nice girl.
Because I went to HCMC for business, only limited time for me to look for fun during night time. I went to this pub call Cat Walk, a nice place but not cheap. Many girls for you to choose and they are all pretty. I call a girl who can speak english very well,
drink together for 1 hour and off we go to hotel. Over night is USD150, short time is USD100.
She stayed with me until late morning, I got her number but wondering I will look for her again or not because there are so many pretty ladies out there waiting for us.
Next time I would like to try other place. Any tips where can find freelance ladies?
Any brothers willing to share their experience in Saigon Saigon bar?
James
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With all due respect, the prices you quote for Viet Nam (even more expensive HCM) are a BIG JOKE! Places like the tourist trap Saigon-Saigon or similar Catwalk are the worst of the worst in all of VN for rip offs. You should take some time to look around beyond such useless luxury digs where it seems all the without a clue newbies hangout. Read the posts here going back many months for some much better suggestions.
Asiaphile,
If you can't afford to play at the Cat Walk then don't GO! Don't tell me the girls at Cat Walk are the same as Hoc Toc places or Bia Om places? get my point?
Very good point. You get what you pay for. Trust me. Sometimes these girls that costs $50-100 per night is well worth it. Don't want no street walker. They are not as educated as street walkers in the US. They don't know about diseases. They are walking time bombs. Get free diseases from them man. I'll pass.
How do you know what I can or cannot afford? Many of the girls (I use that term loosely) at Catwalk and Saigon-Saigon are a bit older for the nightlife scene in VN and certainly spoiled and used up. Some of them still hanging out in there I saw back in 1995-96 when both were just opening. I think you need to look around - HCM has over 10 quans with over 6 mil people. There are dozens and dozens of diverse venues and options in the big city that are far superior to such terribly overpriced tourist traps. As far as bia om, hot toc, etc. for quality - they are like every place. You have to shop around for the gems at reasonable price. This is probably more true in HCM since it has overall a much higher standard of living than upcountry or even Hanoi. I can find sweet gems everyday in VN by simply looking around and not acting like the stereotype, without a clue, big spending, fat ass tourist. And yes, my ability to bargain in VNese helps.
Come on guys, all of you are right.
For foreigners, 1M up to $100 US a pop is anorm.
For people who knows the scene and places, a FS can be had for $50000.
I used to stay in Vn and the price I paid for stunning, young and most important tight and juicy was $150,000 to $200,000. That's for everything and I know the girl only get $80,000. So, if you can get those girls out to go to your place (appointment), that's a legit price (year 2000). I had service from those so-called high price at night time who works in the club and worked in the brothels at day time for just 1/10 of what they got from foreign customers.
Besides those young and can speak fluent English, any of those girls will have different price depends on who you are and where is the place.
If you know where to look, you can have a nice young girl all night for just merely $20-$30 US.
Peace and write report.
There are sometimes cute looking girls at Bia Om places. But before you can Fuck them you have to pay for Beers, Foods, Gums and all those stuffs they force upon you, therefore, in the end the price would total up to more than the average Fuck you get elsewhere. Hoc Toc places are for Mongers on a tight buget, girls are usually butt ugly and they are there to service local poor Vnese customers. If you just looking for a hole to stick your dick in then Hoc Toc places are for you! with no disrespect of course!
Other than that, I find that the many nite Clubs and Bars in Saigon are the best places for take out with good selection, qualities and of course worth every penny. Even at Cafe places have good girls for take out, I prefer Cafe Window at Ho Con Rua area. I went there every morning for coffee and breakfast and have my eyes wash at the same time!! Just one look, a smile, an invite over the table and possibility for a FS is endless.
Asiaphile dude,
Yep, your ability to locate and bargain, by speaking the language, is your advantage. Good for you!
However, in order to praise yourself of how good you are by putting down on others; again, it's not the act of the mature individual.
The valuable opinion/knowledge of yours stay put within. The stereotype, without a clue, big spending, fat ass tourist, will continue acting whatever they think it appropriate.
Well, bargaining is good and all but like I said, you get what you pay for. Sometimes these high price girls end up being free anyways. I rather go that route than some hooker on the street. Those are slim pickings. That is the last resort. Most girls who are decent are going to work in the clubs. They get more money. Street walkers are for the locals. Cheap. You might find a diamond but far and few in betweenl. I do not have the time to shop. I rather get them at the clubs.
But its up to you who you want to fuck and how much you spend.
Please update on the current hot club in Saigon. The last time I was there was back in summer 2002 and Club Blue was packed every nite, but it got burn down later that same year. Anything exciting happening in SAigon lately? Any new high-end coffee shop open? Is cafe Window still have chics available for pick-up & check-out all hours of the day?
Thanks
The problem with the 'you get what you pay for' philosophy is that more expensive = worse service, almost without exception.
Let be a little honest here; "more expensive = worse service, almost without exception" ONLY apply if you're BUTT UGLY. Even when you can afford to pay for a Model, if you're nasty lõoking then all you'll get is a dead fish in bed. Think about it. That's why so many guys prefer ugly girls because ugly chics have no choice other than to please the customers - left to right. This is why you hear so many different prices for FS. Hot looking girls always charge their customers base on looks and turn on. If you're ugly, of course you can get any Model in bed BUT you have to pay way much more. That's why "you get what you pay for" does not apply to ugly customers chasing hot pussy!
Sexmania,
Apparently you're convinced prostitutes are servicing you for your dashing good looks and animal magnetism rather than for money. If that delusion helps you face the fact that you have to pay for it, more power to you! Those of us more in touch with reality might snicker and jeer, but what business is it of ours, really?
Dear Opebo,
The reality is that if you're an ugly, old smelly, fat horny monger chasing for pussy, all the wonderful services you'll be getting are from girls with similar lõok and description. Like I said in my previous post; of course you can get Models and hot chics in bed but "one's ugliness" can cost alot more money for a service that is 1/10 in comparation to an average Joe who pays much less for a same girl. That's reality and it hurts.
This have nothing to do with you or me. I am just sick of some Idiots kêep saying that everyone should pay the same price for all the girls and expect the same great service everytime!
Well I think it depends on the girls. Some girls are dead lays regardly of their price or beauty. I think most of the street girls are dead lays. Plus the guys being better looking doesnt equal discount. They work for a reason. Granted being ugly and fat might cost you more but being handsome doesnt necessarily means cheaper. Like I said it depends on the girl. Some are cool and if they like you..they don't even charge but most will charge their usual.
But I do notice that most of the fine ones are dead lays too. They think their looks along will do it so they just lay there. I prefer the decent looking ones. I will test that again when I go there this July.
Exactly Poppasan, its more about the girl's looks than the john's looks. After all she's the marketable commodity, not the guy!
If you get my point, then there should be no more complaining about "price & services".
On The Road
05-19-04, 23:51
I'm not a very good looking guy, even if I'm not completely ugly. I had some beautiful girls all over the world (mainly all over Europe, Cuba, Brasil, Thailand), I never overpaid them according to WSG standards. Next summer I'll check out the Viet and Cambodian market, too.
Most of the times I had great times with them, you can check out my reports.
I think it depends on the girl's look, but mainly on the john's behaviour.
If you are respectful, you'll get good service even if you're ugly and the girl is a model. If you act as a beast and mistreat them as pieces of meat that's what you get back.
Girls are young uman beings, don't forget it.
Every John working on any kind of service with direct customer contact should understand it.
I have never been to Vietman, but i would love to go some day. I tend to agree with some. The attractivenss of the girlis inverserly proportional to the service they give. The best I have had tend to be from older not so attractive women.
Cheers & greeting from New Zealand
There is a new big club on Cong Quynh Street, with Karaoke, Disco, ..., some streets from the western tourist quarter.
The grant opening was a really great event. Had some fun there.
Just for you to know.
HarryR,
I would suggest that don't go to Vietnam at all! What the point of going there when all you're looking for are old and ugly hags?? You can get those for free at home, can't you?
Ljohnson;
[Deleted by Admin]. You talk about experience and knowledge? [Deleted by Admin]! Having to travel to thailand and with all that money still can't get a pretty girl to fuck. [Deleted by Admin]! With all due respect.
Who the hell is talking about being handsome and all that? This is just to show [Deleted by Admin] which class you belong to when you can't understand the simple point I tried to make in my previous posts with simple english writing. When [Deleted by Admin] comparing to an average Joe; fucking a Model won't be the same experience! [Deleted by Admin] would have to pay more to get her into bed and the service would almost be a dead lay, whereas an average Joe would pay the same Model a bit less (talking about negotiation...) and the service would definately better than an ugly Joe received! That's my point. [Deleted by Admin]. If you can't accept that then you will be complaining about price/service for the rest of your monger career.
The more experience and knowledge you have in this area, and I am sure you do! [Deleted by Admin]
By the way, I was born in Vietnam so I've been to the places I mention. I know a lot of Mami` in Saigon and when I visit there next time; I don't mind meeting up with you to show you first hand of what I have talked about. Maybe then you can spend the last few years of your life saying: seeing is believing. Obviously, you guys could be as old as my dad or grandpa when come to age. I am just in my early 30s.
So who's the [Deleted by Admin] trying to get me booted from this Great Forum? Who give the fuck! if I may be so blunt.
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sam tang,
hey, is the new club you mention anything like the burned down club blue or club speed? i spent most of my time hunting at speed because i like the arrangement and the set up in regard to working girls. all i had to do was sit at my table and watch girls go round and round in a big circle until i found one to my taste!
any current bar or club that stay open beyond midnite?? like i said, the last time i was there was back in 2002. thx.
RatuFreddie
05-22-04, 06:47
To All,
as for the discussion about quality of service: i have lived in Vietnam for a total of 7 years in the last 10 years, so i think i know my way around a little bit.
I have had the pleasure to fuck great looking women with great service, great looking women with very bad service and attitude, so-so looking girls with fantastic service and also with so-so service.
To make it short, i do not think general rules apply to this. All depends on the individuals involved and of course on the setting, situation. All reports and judgements are highly subjective by nature. Your own state of mind and emotion plays at least the same part as the actual service provided.
I have paid from nothing, 50.000 VND, 100.000 VND up to USD 100 per shot/night. As far as pricing is concerned, it depends on the venue where you meet the girl more than anything else. In a roadside brothel you can get a shack for VND 100.000 or less, but never in AN or on HBT bars. The girls there will always ask for 50 USD or more, it comes with the territory. If you meet the same girl in a different location the price very likely will be different.
In Vietnam you have high end and bottom end market right next to each other coexisting. Remember you get what you pay for! If you want a well dressed, english speaking beauty you will not find this in a 10 USD brothel. Go to Catwalk or similar and budget around 100 USD for everything, incl drinks. Or you can go to a local park and get a HJ for USD 1. Yes 1 USD! No frills provided with this one!
Ljohnson,
Why do you reply to post like that from Sexmania?
That’s exactly what those people want, that is giving them the forum they need, for whatever personal reasons.
Ignore it, everybody can easily understand the intentions of those posts, and I am quite sure that the forum administration will do the rest for you. It is just a waste of time to read those posts, or even to answer.
I know, I am a newbie posting here, but exactly posts of those people stopped me to contribute anything in this forum up to now. If the level reaches those lows, I simply don’t want to be part of it. Let’s give the forum the informative style most of us appreciate and want, and disregard those posts. The more different opinions are posted here, the better it is.
BTW: I really appreciate English lessons, please send me a PM if it is too bad what I write.
Giotto
My dear [Deleted by Admin] friend, Ljohnson
So I guess I have press the right button huh? It hurts, doesn't it? When facts and reality hit you right in the face.
You got me. My English is not that good, ouch! I like to see you write a post in Vietnamese. [Deleted by Admin] I [Deleted by Admin]; for you to attack me on a subject that's irrelevant to our previous discussion. I guess you deserve [Deleted by Admin]. So I see that crying to the Editor about me didn't work huh? If it did, the readers of this forum wouldn't have the privilege of knowing [Deleted by Admin].
Enough said.
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GoodEnough
05-23-04, 05:11
Sexmania:
Your use of English is not simple, it's simplistic and slightly incoherent. I don't know if it's the lousy spelling, the inappropriate use of tense and syntax or your excitement at trying to express yourself, but it's really difficult to understand your point. Ljohnson is correct that you should probably be banned...for egregiously poor English if nothing else, but it's actually more amusing to have you around.
I don't know Ljohnson, but I like him already.
GE
Hahaaa. I know it hurts for some of you old fools to read my posts and it's good that you guys need to get in touch with reality sometimes! Go on and attack me on my english skills. What's the point? Think of it? Idiots.
In an effort to douse this flame war and get back on subject, I am offering a FR of tonight's adventures at the Sheraton. Of course some of you (at least by the tone of this thread) will no doubt attack me, but WTF!
After standing around on the 23rd floor scoping the "eye" candy, a lovely thing came over and starting chatting. After 20 mins of bullshit, she finally asks me, "have you taken any girls from here yet?" I told her I heard it is very difficult and too expensive. She countered with a proposal to go to a "no tell" hotel nearby and she offered a price that I was comfortable with. The whole deal, including drinks, hotel and "fun" was about half of what the going rate in a major China city is. Long story short, great GFE with DFK, DATY, BBBJ, multiple positions, a short adventure in the back door and a wonderful CIM after jerking off the condom as I was about to unload. Fantastic body and very good at what she did. This is definitely one of my top tens in the past 3-5 years and I think if you check the China boards you will see that I have had a good number of options to compare this with. Got her mobile and will definitely be enjoying this again in different circumstances.
So, lets get back to the main reason we are here..and that is to find women who like to fuck our brains out..not to discuss semantics.
Peace brothers and stay safe!
Hey Guys,
I'm new to the forum but I've had many years of different experiences in Asia. I've been reading the forum for a long time and I have drawn many conclusions from my observations. I used to read a lot of reports from guys who seemed genuinely interested in helping other guys out while entertaining with there great stories. I see alot fewer of these but I'm hopeful we can turn the tide. We're all only human and it would be great to see more guys check there egos before writing their reports. Remember the goal and keep in mind that we all share it.
I'm not here seeking conflict, just some help to get to know the landscape of Vietnam. After a while I would love to share my experiences as I get to know the "Ins" and "Outs" of Vietnam.
I would like to hear from someone who can give me some advice as to a list of the top 10 places in Saigon for meeting with quality women, pros and non-pros alike. Any opinions on this topic would be appreciated.
I will be moving to Saigon in July and will be ready to take advantage of my situation as soon as I land.
Cheers,
Your friendly neighbourhood Shooter
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Sexmania,
You need to calm down and realize that your treatment over there is a lot different than regular guys. The girls over there treat you better because you are Viet and they can communicate with you. Please don't get that confused with good looks and service. Trust me. I have been back there enough times to realize the difference between the working girls there. All the girls are different. But all of them treat you good if you treat you good. Prices are the same. They try to get the max out of everyone. So it comes down to negotiations not your looks. And plus where you pick up these girls. If you get them at the clubs...they are all overprice. They are all good looking and they know it. Well not all but they all demand high prices. They don't care what you look like. And being dead lays depends on the girls.
The ones on the streets are usually the really young ones who is very inexperience. That is why I find them to be most of the time dead lays.
So bottom line, the johns good looks does not mean better service, maybe, maybe, cheaper but rarely, but definitely does not garantee better service.
And what about you being born there...Does not mean anything to the hookers.
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Silly Puppy
05-25-04, 02:42
Sexmaniac,
I somehow agree with you but also think you should not generalize too much. Just ignore all the attacks and concentrate on what you know best about mongering in SG. We need people who are very familiar with all the activities so we don't lose time when we are there. It took me 3 days to be comfortably get the first lay! VN is not like China or Taipei where I can just ask my suppliers to take me where to have fun, many time for free. The Jap suppliers in VN and Japan are just too dumb to understand my needs. I think I like to get to know you more when I am in SG sometime this year.
Cheers!
Pop,
I never intended to create any problem here. In fact, I enjoy reading the posts here when I am not in Vietnam. It keeps me up to date and remind me of the good times.
If you really want to know how it get started, you need to go back the begining of all the previous posts. Some idiot claimed to know it all in Vietnam. He said no one should pay more than 300,000d for a FS and that he could get it down much cheaper to 200,000d - 100,000d and lower if he were at some country side area of Vietnam. The idiot said the "market" get ruin because everybody pay more than 300,000d and that who ever pay more than his set-price is arrogant, show-off and simply stupid for flashing $ around. The fact is that he doesn't play the same games as I do and his taste in girls is nowhere near the same class as mine. That is why I had to set him straight and put some sense and reality into his "experience and knowledge" about mongering in Vietnam.
I am open for discussion any way you like. There are some idiots who can't carry an open discussion, so they resort to attack me on my english skills even though they know that English is my second language. It is so funny and stupid! It only go to show the type of class those idiots belong to in society.
The bottom line is that all the sluts know exactly how to get the most money out of each horny monger! We all pay to play, so lets play and stop complaining about money if you can't afford it.
Now lets hear some up date on the nitelife in Saigon! I hear many hot clubs got shut down. True?
SexMania,
Are you there now? I am going back to Vietnam in July or August. I was last there last August. I know the happening scene in Vietnam changes all the time. Do you know what is happening in Saigon now? Is it still Mecca?
One last thing. All the guys that go back to VN and enjoy the ladies and treatments. Well they won't know true treatment or GFE that a VietKieu gets from these girls. Priceless.
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For all those can read and understand Vietnamese,
There is an article about Catwalk at New World at tuoitre.com.vn and click on Xa~ Ho^.i section.
Have fun guys!!!
james tran,
k'mon man, you don't need any supplier to show you a good time in saigon! you're vnese and you can speak the language for crying out loud! troi!
see if you agree with me on this point. never, never, ever let money get in the way of a good time if you're truly in vietnam for a real good time. if you do, then sluts can be had from left to right in saigon. the easiest way for some take out is at any disco club in saigon. just go there, get yourself a drink, parked yourself somewhere and let everything come to you. you don't need to do anything while you're there, not even eye contact. the sluts would make their way around in the club looking for vk like yourself. once they see $ on your forehead, they would come to you asking for a lighter or a cigarette or sometimes they would slightly bump into you to struck a "halo, i am available" kind of thing. i must say that some of them are really hot man! once that happens, the show and tell stop there and you're on your own. the negotiation depend on how hot is the girl, how late at the time, your look (its help) and how much your little head want her! it all pretty much a standard routine. the club i spent alot of time at when i was there in 2002 was club speed. although my cousin recently spent a month in vn and he told me that the club got shut down along with other hot spots, due to some crack down.
in the morning when the weather is hot as hell! what you can do is go to the ho con rua area for some ca`fe and breakfast. that area have some high-end ca`fe shops for vk and sluts to hang out, and you know what's up when the two mixed together! the sluts are usually there in groups of three to four, just smile at the one you like and she'll find ways to come over to you. nothing to it. just make sure that you pay as you play! don't con any **** while you're there or you'll be in big trouble because all sluts have gangsters for protection. all the sluts know exactly who they are, so you don't need to sweet talk, dine and wine, buy gifts, none of that bullshit!
bia om can be alot of fun too if you go there with your friends as a group. the sluts there are usually good looking but no stunner like the ones at clubs, and price for take out are 1/2 in comparasion to sluts at clubs.
there are so much more. it's all depend on your taste, your budget, and your style of doing things.
Pop,
I am not currently in Vietnam but there is a slice chance that I might be there in August. If not, then I'll be there at the end of the year. Regarding the current scene in Saigon, your guess is as good as mine because the last time I was there was back in 2002. But not to worry, there will always be new and improved places for us to explore!
If opportunity allow, of course I would like to meet up with you so we can "quay" together!
Silly Puppy
05-26-04, 18:39
Sexmaniac,
I used to be young like you and in my early 30's when I was single money was not a problem and I just spent my last dollar on a beer or on a girl I liked.
With that being said, I become more selective when it comes to money and the type of girl. Most of the time it is not the looks, because I know how these good looking girls are, but the circumstances leading to get the girls that excite me the most. Coming to bars (such as AN) do not exote me enough. Been there, done that at the time you were not even born. Read my other posts.
I like to try others thing that I've never done before. For example, it would be fun to go back to Hue and fuck couple girls in a boat on Perfume river. This is one activity that I did not have when I was young. Or, fuck 2 prostitutes of the same family (daughter and mother or two sisters). See, I have my preferences which completely are different than yours. In short, I don't think I am better than anyone here and I think you should think the same way. I understand you are still young and thus are too arogant to listen. But believe me, one day you will wake up and think about all these when your money is tight (due to support of your family or other needs) , you looks fade, your dick limps , ha ha.
Sexmaniac,
Please do not attack me as an "idiot" for telling you something you don't know about VN. I have posted many times here on HCMC, Ha Noi, etc. and you're the only one to ever attack me personally. I have been in and out of VN since 1991 and seen all the changes - good and bad. I briefly lived in tpHCM in '95 and at this very moment am sitting in an internet cafe in Cho Lon. The rate has gone up from my last visit in 2003. It's now 4000 dong/hr. - a 1000 dong increase. I guess inflation is out of control in VN - hehehe! The girls are cheaper than ever as it's a buyers market if you know what you're doing here and where to find some top ones. Most clubs have 2-1 or as high as 5-1 ratio of nu to nam (that's woman to man) - and I don't mean AN which can be the reverse with often poor quality at outrageous price quotes. You won't find me at Catwalk either, that's for sure! By the way, in a previous post someone mentioned an article on CW. I went to that site a bit earlier and read it. Unless I'm missing something it was not all that interesting or informative. Bascially, it just talked about a fashion show, the music, the overall "cool" ambiance, etc. I have no desire to walk into that overpriced club and hear over and over "hundred dollah, honey" or "okay, for you Mr. Smart Boss Man one million dong." Have only been in town a few days but met a lot of very nice young girls in the many new ca phe den around Nguyen Hue, D Plaza, etc. Club 17 Ton Duc Tang seems to be one of the hip and chic hangouts with lots of pretty ones. The xxxxxxxxx Hotel (censored by me) around the corner has a great massa/sauna place nearby staffed by a couple gems. A beautiful 19 year old blond VNese who is there was 100000d plus tip for BJ. I had her come to my hotel the other morning and after a great long full session gave her 400000d. I had already given her 200000d tip at the shop. This connection is really slow so I'll be back out on the hot street soon checking everything out, having a bia hoi for no more than 5000d and then back to the hotel later for a bit of aircon relax before off to some other night spots much later.
Your humble correspondent in tpHCM for the time being... Chao tam biet.
Hi Guys,
I loved my trip to VN 5 years ago. And I met a sweetie girl in District 1 near my hotel. Unfortunately I couldn't take her back with me to the hotel. And I didn't want to use a cheap love Hotel.
So, now I am planning on returning to HCMC, and I am in touch w/ this lovely girl I want to be with.
She said that maybe some of the hotels will let her and me stay, especially if I book it with her name too.
What is the word there in HCMC about bringing girls to the room? I plan on staying at the Delta Carravelle, the nice one in District 1.
Has there been a change in the rules regarding bringing the girls back to the hotel? I know the nice places dont let the girls in from the hours of 11pm, and 11am. Well, that's better than nothing.
thanks,
Lalake
Asia,
My suggest to you is that; don't criticize other people on how much they paid for a good time because you are only a one man band! It is great that you mention how much you paid each time you played so we can get a general idea, but don't call anyone "arrogant" and "stupid" for not paying the same price as you do. Here is why: There are so many sluts running around in Saigon and no one is screwing a same **** at the same time, and every "session" is a different experience for each monger. I am sure you have a vault of "knowledge and experience", but your "taste and style" might not be the same as the guy sitting next to you. I don't know about anyone else; but when I only have 3 weeks to stay in VN each time I visit, "money" is an issue I seldom think about. This have nothing to do with how much money I have to burn or how arrogant I am, it is about working hard and play harder when I get a chance for some stress relief. As you mention you had a "bia hoi" for 5,000d before you headed back to your hotel. It sounds refreshing and cheap! But that does not mean that a glass of "bia hoi" is the same quality and taste as a bottle of Ken, maybe it is to you but definitely not to me and many other people. So please take one's style and taste, as well as "quality and service" into consideration when you criticize people who paid 1,000,000d and above for a FS.
Lalake,
Delta Carravelle is a waste of money! Don't stay there unless your company is paying for your expenses. My info might be out dated, but the rule is that: a foreign touris cannot stay in the same room with a Vietnamese woman unless the two are married. The solution to this problem is that you need to get your woman her own room so she can have a room to run to in case there is a crack down. This is just bullshit, I think. Those high class hotels want to have a respectable image that's all. But why go through all that hassle?
There are so many smaller, privately own 2 stars hotels in Saigon for you to pick and choose. These hotels are new, very clean, very safe, and very cheap! And the rule I mention above does not applied to these hotels because the hotel staff just don't care. I paid 250,000d ($16.5) a nite including breakfast. Extremely girl friendly, 24/7! One time I even saw an English man escorted 2 girls to his room and no problem what so ever. Last time I was in VN, I stayed at Lan Lan2 located on Thu Khoa Huan street. It is less than 1 minute walk to the famous Ben Thanh market. Everything you need is around that area within walking distance.
I hope that help. Good luck!
Carlos Spain
05-27-04, 19:22
Apocalipsy New disco is closed in HCM City?
The Carevelle should not be a problem, especially if you're staying on the low-rise (10F) section. There, the elevator (the one that goes to the Saigon Saigon rooftop bar) and the stairs are quite public and unmonitored. Having said that, the moto drivers also know short time hotels in the Pham Gu Lao area, I could point you to a couple of them.
Tamurlane26
05-28-04, 17:41
Spoke to a friend in a travel agent and the recommendation is to have fun in the afternoon as the security does not check at that time - then if she is in your room before 9pm no sweat.
As I used to stay in the Caravelle I put this to the test and spent one sunday afternoon with two lovely ladies and yes walking across from SaigonSaigon bar was a breeze!
There is a local hotel near the New World where you pay USD35 per night and if you have no cash then they will simply add the girl to the bill and pay her the cash - now that is what you call service! Have used them a couple of times and had no issues with that!
Some of the cheap hotels are ok however if you want to relax then this is a better option and you can have a longer run at the affair.
Hello everyone,
Dirty Dog here. Well I will be returning to VN January 05. I am not posting any new info yet because I've been out of the country since September 2002. Im sure things have changed since I last indulged myself in VN. My methods won't change I'll just have to discover any new hot spots. Im not sure if I have posted it in the past but one of the clubs I fequent is "Black Jacks" in District one. It may or may not be still in business. They have great looking gals in there, most of them speak english and the enviroment is friendly and comfortable. Upstairs they have a disco tech that is open late (past midnight)- way past. Again, this may not be the case now. I met my last laison there. I took her out for a couple of days and eventually into bed. She wasn't that good in bed because she seemed nervous. She had great looks to compensate though. I will be posting regularly soon after I arive in January 05. C-ya all then.
(Rude Beast and Virgin are you still in Vietnam?)
Hi there,
I'm new to this board and will be visiting HCM in July for a vacation before working in China. My question is: Where is the best place in HCM to meet young non pro Vietnamese girls?. Are there any good shopping malls/cafes or discos to meet them. How about video arcades or ice cream shops?
Any advice would be appreciated
Trisomie
Reporting from HCMC: Leaving this AM for Mui Ne, Nha Trang and then ?? The past 12 days in HCMC (plus side trip to Vung Tau/Long Hai) have been very eventful from plenty of regular girls, to the usual street hustles, usual mafia vibe BS, some select bia om allstars, some massa pros, etc. Maybe the highlight has been that lots of lovely and sexxxy non-pros or semi-pros available day/night all over the place if you know how to act around them. I have had a few scenes on this trip with some gorgeous girls in virtual cat fights to gain my attention and keep it. As is my practice I kept my hotel unknown to most of them (even though I only stay in guest friendly places). Some will definitely park outside waiting for you or even hire a lookout to follow you! Many of these girls are well equiped w/latest fashions, cell phones, new moto bikes, at least some $ to burn - chay long rong!
My hotel for the first 4 nights was great (especially next door massa/sauna) but found an even better one now. It pays in more ways than one to shop around a bit and see what's out there - and not just in Quan 1. The last 6 nights at my latest private hotel is everything anyone could hope to want in HCMC. Relatively new yet with some expanded/remodeled freatures like basement nightclub, private karaoke lounge/rooms, massage/sauna, free breakfast, very nice large standard rooms/suites, sat TV, efficient aircon, modern lift, back up generator, 24/7 biz center w/internet service at (a bit high at 20000d/hr, on and on. My room is $21 although I could have taken a suite for $33. Joiner fee as long as you're discrete is 50000d after 10pm. I've stayed at New World Hotel when its rooms were $189 in '96! I don't care that they are now about one-third that much or around $90 if it's the Caravelle. Both of my hotels on this trip are better in every way than those sorry overpriced, unfriendly, communist joint venture rip offs.
Had a rather pathetic incident two nights ago near an expat friends place when half dozen stick swinging undercover goons tried to attack a sweet, lovely 19 y/o girl I was talking to (not the first time I've seen these thugs in action in tpHCM Q-1). We had just about agreed on 350000d or $20 as she was a bit confused on how I was going to be paying - US currency or VND. She ran like a terrified jackrabbit and jumped on the back of a pimps(?) moto and luckily escaped off into the night. I just stood there as they totally ignored me, finally walking back to my friends place a bit disappointed at missing that one. Until I can report again... tam biet!
Greetings Asiaphile and others.
I have read most of this board but with no luck. I should be in HCM city in about a fortnight. I will be bringing one of my own own pussy ladies with me but I intend to sample the local merchandise as well. Can anyone answer the following simple questions for me.
1. What is a cheap and discreet hotel to stay in?
2. What is the best and easiest way to get from the airport to the hotel? Are the taxi drivers safe or pains in the but?
3. Changing money: any problems?
4. Touring HCM with my retained pussy. Any ideas?
5. Getaway places near HCM City?
6. Any special dangrs to watch out for?
7. Whre is a good place to send a young filly shopping while I enjoy a pizza pussy?
A long report, giving basic information would be a great help not only to me but to all innocents at large.
Domino, the Pizza pussy man
Carlos Spain
06-06-04, 19:40
Hello Asiaphiles,
Can you indicate the name of the hotel and the web-sites if it has?
A greeting.
1. What is a cheap and discreet hotel to stay in?
Any hotels near the Pham Ngu Lao street. You might want to try out the Hai Wan hotel on Nguyen Thai Hoc. $15/night
2. What is the best and easiest way to get from the airport to the hotel? Are the taxi drivers safe or pains in the but?
Take a cab, but make sure you negotiate the price before you get in the cab. It should be around 50,000 ($3 dollars) to get from the airport to District 1.
3. Changing money: any problems?
Go the the bank or any jewelry shop. The going rate should be $100 US for 1,574,000 dong.
4. Touring HCM with my retained pussy. Any ideas?
Bad idea, waste of money. Unless she is your fiance or wife, you are wasting precious time on pussy you already had many times over.
5. Getaway places near HCM City?
Da Lat, Vung Tau
6. Any special dangrs to watch out for?
Not really, just don't be stupid.
7. Whre is a good place to send a young filly shopping while I enjoy a pizza pussy?
Again, wasting money, but if you need some place to send her, the Diamond plaza is a pretty nice place to go. However, the prices there are ridiculous.
Whisper1 (and Jackson)
Thanks a LOT for this. It is a great start to nailing down information on modern HCM City. Please let me go over your questions:
1. What is a cheap and discreet hotel to stay in?
Any hotels near the Pham Ngu Lao street. You might want to try out the Hai Wan hotel on Nguyen Thai Hoc. $15/night. Done. There are lots of others there too. I just want my lady friend not to think I am mongering mad. (she will soon find out)
2. What is the best and easiest way to get from the airport to the hotel? Are the taxi drivers safe or pains in the but?
Take a cab, but make sure you negotiate the price before you get in the cab. It should be around 50,000 ($3 dollars) to get from the airport to District 1. Gotcha. We get in late and I don't want to be bushwhacked on the way.
3. Changing money: any problems?
Go the the bank or any jewelry shop. The going rate should be $100 US for 1,574,000 dong. The problem here is we don't get in till late at night. Hoefully, it will be ok.
4. Touring HCM with my retained pussy. Any ideas?
Bad idea, waste of money. Unless she is your fiance or wife, you are wasting precious time on pussy you already had many times over. She is part of the deal and she is going to have a very sore pussy at the end. I will also do lots of collateral damage on the locals, have no fear.
5. Getaway places near HCM City?
Da Lat, Vung Tau: Da lat sounds nice and romantic, Vung Tau seems like a shit heap.
6. Any special dangers to watch out for?
Not really, just don't be stupid. Once we get to the hotel and establish base, things should be fine.
7. Where is a good place to send a young filly shopping while I enjoy a pizza pussy? This will be her money, not mine so she can shop away
Jackson: When and if I come back from Vn, I will post lots of details
Domino,
We are looking forward to it and hope that you keep your words. Have fun!!!
http://www.vngold.com/gold/index.html
The above tourist ( non sex) link gives some good info on Vn, some of which confirms Whisper's helpful comments. It also gives a link telling how to go overland from Pattaya in Thailand via Sihanoukville in Cambodia to Vietnam. Now there is a run someone should do in the interests of research.
I've got most of the logistics worked out now. If time allows I will go up to Hue for old time's sake but pizza ass is more top of my agenda. Ths one is going to be a walk in the park.
I just arrived in Vietnam, and was wondering if anyone wanted to meet up with me and show a VK the ropes. Last time I was in VN, I went to some of the Bia Oms on Hai Ba Trung street, and want to try other places out. PM me if you guys need a sidekick at all.
wow. i haven't been back in two years, and blue, speed and spaceship have all closed down. apocalypse now is still open, though i'm not sure why anyone would want to go there.
of the old clubs, rainforest is the only one still open. i'm going there tonight, and will check out thanh long on cong quynh tomorrow, to see what it's like.
Daring Mood
06-30-04, 03:14
Not so much a report as several questions. I need a mongering holiday real bad.
1) After reading through previous reports I still cannot find a recommendation for a GF hotel (no extra) charge US$20-US$50 per night in the middle of everything. I have the visa and I plan to set off from Thailand July 7th.
Which raises another two questions?
2). What's the cheapest way to fly from Bangkok to HCM/Saigon return Bangkok
3). Has anyone tried the overland from Thailand via Cambodia Vietnam, crossing near Trat (Thailand) and entering Vietnam at a place called Ha Tien?
TIA,
Daring Mood
Daring Mood,
Check out this site:
http://saveflights.com/country/vietnam.html
Return fare from Bkk to HCM is $9700baht includes tax,etc . I used them to buy a one way from Bkk to HCM.
As for cheap hotels, check out Thanh Thu Hotel in district one (closed to the market called Cho Ben Thanh) Only one year old, girl friendly. I paid $20/night last year. Not too bad.
Good luck,
Cali
Tamurlane26
07-03-04, 15:18
Daring Mood
The answers are all there - there is a couple of places you might like to try
Next to Camargue there is a hotel run by a Brit which allows over nighters as is only 35USd per night - another hotel which was a gem is at the back of New World Hotel - sorry cant remember the name but it is above street level. How I know this place is the girl took me there and they even allowed me to pay her using credit card and put it all on the bill as a room rate ! Such nice people - they are used to foreigners and wont rip you off and the girl just has to give her Id on the desk over night to comply with regulations - if you bring them during hte day they wont even bother doing that !
Have fun
Hi Everyone,
I'll be heading to TPHCM the 16th. Although I won't be doing any mongering, my wife will be with me, I will check out the scenes there in town. We tend to go a lot of places to eat and dance and I see quite a few girls that would probably be available if I was alone. I'll be hitting Da Lat and Nha Trang also while I am there.
One thing about the Viet girls. If they love you, it's serious. My wife is not only beautiful, she's smart as hell. But not only that, she's as faithful as anyone could want. I had to stop seeing other girls as it started to make me feel guilty. Anyway, she keeps me busy as hell, damn girl is horny as me.
Anyway, I'll try to take some pics of the girls I see and where they are and post them when I come back in August.
After almost a month of "snooping" around here to get the hang of the place, I finally wandered into one of the infamous "pool" bars near Vasco's. It was about 12:30 am and I was the only guy in the place. There must have been 20-30 girls working inside. ALmost immediately a very cute lady asked me to go upstairs and have a drink and play "pool". Interesting idea...
Upstairs, she starts rubbing my crouch and doing some serious DFK. Started a game of 9 ball, the object being the loser took of their clothes. This girl was a real hustler, missing all the easy shots in the beginning and then nailing a few great shots to win. But, forgeting the pool game, the whole time, she was in my pants, pulling out her breasts, letting me finger her while taking shots (she had on a nice short little dress and a thong underneath, nothing else!!). Offered to let her enjoy the prize from winning back at my place and she immediately agreed. After trying to "bar fine" me (which I graciously declined) she agreed to go ahead since she "liked me"..haha!
Back to my place for a serious round of hard core sex! Wow, this girl was hot and did everything...at least everything that I could hold up for. Her way of licking Mr. Happy and the luggage below almost got me off immediately and had to ask her to back off several times so I could still enjoy the main event. She refused to stop and told me "don't worry, we can do it more than once". Wonderful tight body, great perky breasts and great attitude. Total cost was around USD 50, including the drinks. This was a pleasant surprise given what I have seen so far here. Got her # and she is coming back tonight for round 2!
Starting to like this place!
Found It,
What's the address of this place? I kinda need a new bia om to check out. I've found that a lot of the ones on Hai Ba Trung are full of dogs.
Thanks.
AZN Monger
07-05-04, 17:36
Found It,
No wonder she didn't care about going twice. If it cost $50 USD, that is damn too much.
Found It,
I ran into a pool hall back in christmas of 02 in district one..would that place happen to be named Crystal's pool hall ?
I have a business trip in the coming week to Ho Chi Minh. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or tips on where to go to meet girls. Bars, strip clubs or MP's with really nice looking girls and the cost I should expect.
Thank You
Was in HCMC early March and went into the Paradise bar. Quite empty and not the highest quality girls I've seen in Vietnam.
However, it was late, and had the same sort of strip pool game upstairs. She either: was very keen to get naked, thought that if you got naked you won, or she just couldn't play pool (I doubt it).
Having got naked I had a very good BBBJTC right there with an audience of other girls who had come up to deliver a towel to wipe up! Gave her a tip of 150,000VND.
She wanted to continue elsewhere for the night but I wasn't that drunk.
Ozirob
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Member #2234
07-09-04, 08:46
Hi guys,
I'm new here. I live in Viet Nam but am currently back in the UK for a few months, should be going back to VN around October.
Hi Ozirob, was that the Paradise Bar on HO VAN HUE street?
If you guys want good BJ then go down to GO VAP district, PHAN VAN TRI street, if u drive along there you will see all the "ca phe" places, price is 70,000vnd so including tipping usual TOTAL is 100,000vnd. Good service, not a fancy hotel room or nothing like that, but you will be taken into an empty room where you will have you trousers taken down, told to lie down or sit down, then given a BJ, you can CIM and also fondle the girls too (same for every joint on that street)
If any info needed on anything I will try my best to help, I am not Vietnamese but I live there and speak the language and also have a business there on NGUYEN KIEM street Q.PN
Hi #2234,
I can't be sure but it was close to Hai Ba Trung, last in a row of what used to be several very busy establishments back around '95 (which was the first time I went there).
Member #2234
07-10-04, 09:21
Yeah that's right, you would drive UP Hai Ba Trung onto Phan Dinh Phung, then past the 4way crossroad onto Nguyen Kiem in Phu Nhuan district (where my shop is) then turn left onto Ho Van Hue just past the rail tracks, drive up there and Paradise is on your left :)
Member #2234
07-10-04, 14:10
If you guys want good massage then go to NGUYEN THAI SON in PHU NHUAN district, heading towards the airport direction from Ng Thai Son in GO VAP district, cross straight over the crossroads and it is on the right hand side. Cost to get in is 50,000vnd (and they will give u a ticket which allows you FREE ADMISSION the second time as long as it is before 4pm), inside has 2 saunas and jacuzzi etc. no lounge to sit in though, basically get your sauna and shower then straight up to room for massage, hence the price but the girls are NICE ;)
Prices to tip the girls is 50,000vnd if massage only and 100,000vnd if HJ is involved. Now I think I would be correctly speaking if I say most of you here will be foreigners, so obviously the girls will ask you first how much you are willing to pay (even with me they do that and they don't even know I am a foreigner because I look the same as Vietnamese), they will try to push 200,000vnd out of you (or maybe even more if you are a white man), tell them NO as you KNOW the STANDARD price is 100,000vnd. Put it this way, there is NO WAY they will decline because 100,000vnd is the STANDARD price for all local and regulars and at the end of the day foreigner or no foreigner 100,000vnd is better than NOTHING at all if they decline your offer.
Another wicked massage parlour is on CAO THANG over in Q.3 (district 3). Best way to get there (as Cao Thang is a long street) is to turn onto CAO THANG from NGUYEN THI MINH KHAI in Q.3 and it is on your left hand side, the sauna is called FESTIVAL. It is actually a leisure centre because it has Karaoke club there aswell. If you go by CYCLO then say "festiVAN" as the Vietnamese do not pronounce the letter L, they pronounce it N, so FESTIVAN and the driver will know where to take you.
If you want a good bar (actually the BEST bar in Sai Gon) then go to "261" NUMBER ONE on NGUYEN VAN TROI street, can't remember what district that will come under but I think it will be Q.1
Forget all the other clubs/discos because most are a ripp off because it is known by the foreigners/tourists. Go to the locals/viet kieu disco 261, I guarantee you will enjoy yourself and you will PULLas well! All viet kieu knows this place and all locals (usually RICH locals as the place is expensive for a standard Vietnamese earner), over the past couple of year LOTS of foreigners (I would imagine they have visited Sai Gon regularly) go into the club as they know that club is the best disco.
OK for you viet kieu brothers out there, if you want a good live band music joint then go to POLO situated on LY CHINH THANG in Q.3 district. Remember Ly Chinh Thang is a one-way street so you will have to go up to the top and drive down towards junction NAM KY KHOI NGHIA and you will see it on the right hand side situated on a corner. Upstairs is live band where people drink beer and brandsy etc. and they have girls that sit beside you and give you a good time, you can meet up with the girls afterwork (they finish at 12am). You can also get up and sing but it is not karaoke as such where you watch the screen and read the words, you have to know the words (or read of the notes). Downstairs is a cafe where you can drink softdrinks / coffee / beer and has an on-stage karaoke where you go up to sing in front of others.
Hope this helps and I hope some of you guys will meet up for a coffee when I get back in October.
member #2234,
What kind of business do you operate in Vietnam? If it is a BJ bar or cafe, I will give it a try when I am in Vietnam ;-)
When I was in VN, my friends and I went to one of the BJ cafe shops in Go Vap district during the day and it was an awesome one.
Member #2234
07-11-04, 00:05
Nah man, I only go to them places to enjoy myself but I do not own one lol!
I own a Mobile Phone (cellular fone) Store on Nguyen Kiem, Phu Nhuan. We specialise in modifying phones and repairing, but we also sell them aswell :)
Yeah the Go Vap BJ cafes are the best for quality and value ;)
Bobs Power
07-11-04, 08:11
Member 2234,
Than you for a great post...Me and my buddy will be in Vietnam on Thursday night 7/15/04. Since its a late arrival at about 10pm..I hope you can give me some info as far as the night life since its been about 3 yrs since we last were there...and if its some type of business your operating there, I sure would like to meet up with you or your business for coffee.
Thanks,
Bobby
Member #2234
07-11-04, 20:24
Yeah I would love to meet up, but I am not back in vn until October :(
Anyway, yeah if u wanna visit my business then the address is 447 Nguyen Kiem, Phuong 9, Quan Phu Nhuan. It's only a small telephone shop, the name is "HB328". It is DIRECTLY ACROSS the road from "LA MA" billiards leisure centre (which ALOT of foreigners visit aswell, I know a few american friends who visit there everyday). If you go into LA MA BILLIARDS then ask for HOANG/PHILIP (vietnamese name/english name), he is the boss there as is my very good friend, tell him "STEPHEN" sent you (me), he speaks fluent english/italian/chinese/vietnamese as he is a chinese viet-kieu. Address of La Ma is 434 Nguyen Kiem. No sex as such there but a fantastic place to go for a nice game of pool/billiards and it has a bar aswell, also the girls are nice looking ;)
Right, vietnamese does not have a lot of LEGAL nightlife :(
Most places will shut around 12am. Go to 261 (as mentioned in my previous post) or you can go to another bar which is called MTV across in district 3, I do not know the address but all the taxis etc. will know for definate as it is famous, the famous singer UNG HOANG PHUC just sang there live a couple of months ago (I went to see it too).
Another good disco to go to is the RAIN FOREST in district 1, again I do not know the address but most taxis will know as it is really a "white mans disco/hangout" if u know what I mean.
Hope this helps. (I would definately check out La Ma, everyone there knows me so if you tell them you are a friend of Stephen then they will be real friendly to you)
Bobs Power
07-14-04, 08:39
Well do Stephen. Thanks for the info. Will definitely stop by. We're only staying for 2 weeks so if I don't get to meet up with you. I'll definitely keep you posted when I return back to the states.
Thanks again!
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Member #2234
07-14-04, 16:47
Yeah man keep me updated :)
Hope you and your friend enjoy yourselves.
If you need a simcard or top up whilst out there then my shop is well known as it is officially the cheapest in Phu Nhuan ;)
If you speak vietnamese then go in and ask for my partner "anh Binh" and tell him you are a friend of Stephen, he will keep you right.
Hope this helps out.
Maybe the next time you visit I will be in vn then we can meet up for a night out on the town ;)
the hot new nightclub in hcmc now is one just off pham ngu lao if you go south from that roundabout (the one where nguyen trai starts) -- you'll see it soon on your left side just before reaching bui vien. inside it's pretty overwhelming, with the standard vn tables setup and a postage sized dance floor in the middle of them all. but that's in the middle of what must be the biggest nightclub now in hcmc. setup (and size) reminds me of the old speed on tran hung dao. name of the place is volcano. this place opened up pretty recently. you can't be disappointed by this one. some of the outfits you see on people need to be seen to be believed. the women dress to stun. and then there's also some (girls and boys) who dress to look like they're from another planet.
dear mr. #2234, can you give us the name of the street that this nguyen thai son massage place is on? or else something more specific about how to get there? you said heading to the airport but didn't mention on which street. (or is nguyen thai son also the name of the street it's on? i don't know street names out in that area too well)
Member #2234
07-19-04, 01:08
Ng Thai Son is the street name :)
The address of the VOLCANO disco is 150 Cong Quynh.
Is this place anygood? I wonder if they'll ever have something on the same level as Club Blue.
It's nothing like Blue. Thinking of Blue still brings a tear to my eyes. :(
hey g jelly,
is it atleast on the same level as club speed? if not i dont see any reason why to even go there just like spaceship. total waste of money when i was there in 02
Member #2347
07-21-04, 12:13
Hi,
I will be in HCM next week first time good tips were I will find the girls. not for HJ or BJ. for FS ST and LT thx.
I will life in binh Than distrikt5 I think so.
Thanks,
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Member #2347
07-21-04, 16:57
Hello,
I'm new here. I will be in Ho Chi Minh City next week.
Life will life in Binh Thanh Distrikt there are nice girls.
I not look for HJ or BJ I like FS ST or LT any good tips for are newbie.
And whats whis Police?
And how match I have to P4P?
Thanks for your help
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Case Study
07-21-04, 23:57
Alright guys (any gals in here? dont think so),
I've decided to head back to VN for a few weeks but it's been a year since i've been there. With our line of entertainment things change really fast so i'm here to look for more up to date info.
I saw the previous posts about massage, pool, karaoke, and clubs. So here is your chance all of those who are currently in VN or have been there in the last month to show me those hangouts (help a brother out). any info would be appreciated.
Also what are the prices of things these days, inflation cant be that much since last summer eh?
Member #2234/Stephen,
It's funny that you mention number ONE 261 on Ng. V. Troi because i went there before and really didnt like the place. Too loud and stuffy. Oh and yeah apparently there is one guy that owns all of the NUMBER ONE bars in hcmc, i have a connection to him, maybe he can show me around hehe.
Also if anyone is going to be in town and wants to meet up for coffee / beer / whatever feel free to let me know.
Dear All,
I will be in HCM beginning of Aug, does anyboddy know whether the below Hotel is girl friendly?
Thanks for your advice.
OMNI SAIGON HOTEL
253 Nguyen Van Troi Street, Phu Nhuan District
Anyboddy who numbers of call in girls, I would appriciate very much as I will only stay for one night in HCM, not much time to be wasted for hunting around.
Detlef
Spoont Master
07-26-04, 04:43
Fellow Mongerers,
Will be in HCM this Friday (30th) for an overnight transit to Haiphong on Saturday. I don't have a lot of time to sample the local delicacies so was wondering if anyone could recommend a reasonable hotel (price is not an issue) which may have an in-service or is close to a good puck up bar or karaoke/pool hall? Preferably close to the airport although I will travel to the right place.
Also any info on the scene in Haiphong would be appreciated. I have posted a couple of question in the "other areas" section but no one seems to want to respond.
Thanks for your help gents and I look forward to reporting on my exploits.
Cheers,
SM
Member #2234
07-27-04, 09:44
case study: number one is not owned by one guy, 50% is owned by the military now because your FRIEND/OWNER had some big run-in with the law and ALL the NUMBER ONE's including 131 closed for around 3 months. Ask your FRIEND if you don't believe me, I get all the inside news as everyone in number knows me, even management. Hope this helps ;-)
Detlef: never been to that hotel but it is situated right beside WINDOWS 2 coffee shop. I am not sure but personally I would say it would be hard to get girls in there.
Bangkok Mac
07-31-04, 16:11
Help!
I need a way to get money to my Girl Friend. I want to use a Bank Card and only let her take out what is in the Account. What Card do people use for this. I know $100.00 goes a long way in VN and want to have a quick SAFE way of letting her have a little cash.
Thanks!
Bangkok Mac
about volcano.... it's way better than spaceship or any of the others i've been to here in hcmc, such as apocalypse, liquid or mua rung (rain forest) or the now-closed heat and 777. i compared it to speed mainly based on the layout and size. i was only in speed a couple of times in 2001, so i wasn't as familair with it as some others might be.
for anyone who just doesn't like discos, or nightclubs, well, then you might not like it. my visiting friend went to nhac tre / number one and then went to volcano -- he hated no. 1 and loved volcano. it's just much more interesting, and a much better setup for having opportunities to talk to / meet people. or dance.
an idea for the moderator: we sure do get a lot of hotel recommendation requests here -- for people not interested in hotels, it gets pretty tedious. what if there was a separate thread for hotels. maybe 'hcmc - nightlife' and 'hcmc - hotels'
So what WAS Club Blue like in its heydey ? I always see people here waxing poetic about how great it was (well, as close to poetic as things get here)... but not many say why.
What was so good about it? How was it different than these places that are here now... such as the ones I just mentioned in the last post....?
I think you just have to take it as a given that any disco you go into is gonna charge you probably 35000- 45000VND or so for a beer -- and that is probably less than you pay at any BAR back home, so.... if that bothers you, then just don't go there to drink. Sip it slow. These places also don't charge you at the door -- find me a decent nightclub in New York or London that won't charge you a cover. Look at it that way and it's a huge discount to have an evening there for the price of a beer. $3US, or 1.5 pounds.
If you don't like loud music, no then you should stay away, period. That's what discos are. They're places that play music very loud.
Hm, I would say Citibank, but I don't know how much of a presence they have in Saigon. I think HSBC could help you. Or call the Viet embassy and ask them. It's a tightly controlled environment, but there must be some way that the Viet kieus send money. Yeah, they would know. I'd be interested in "the correct answer" here myself.
When I was in Saigon, the only Bank that I recognized and reminded me of home was CitiBank. So if you have an account with them, then you should fine.
Bangkok Mac;
Any bank card would do because it will work at any ATM machine. When I was in VN, the daily maximum for withdraw was 2 Mil. Dong ($133.00) plus ONE Transaction Fee and ONE Service Fee for each time you use your card, so keep that in mind!
$100 can go a long way for SOME people but not ALL. I guess its all depend on the type of girl-friend that you have and her spending habits.
Good Luck.
Member #2234
08-01-04, 23:34
All cash machines in VN accept DEBIT CARDS.
Your foreign debit card will have something like SOLO / SWITCH / MAESTRO / VISA ELECTRON etc. etc. printed on it.
VN cash machines accept them all, don't worry.
About sending money to someone, very easy to set up. Either set up an account in your own country just for her and give her the ATM card, she can use at any ATM, does not matter who's name is on the card. You can deposit every month in that account what ever you think she will need.
Or she can open an account in Vietnam at any bank that provides ATM cards, and you can wire money in her account every month.
Just be careful the girl is not "playing" you. But unlike Thailand, most of the girls are pretty faithful in Vietnam especially if you meet their family.
About hotels, my favorite has always been the Apple Hotel at 8A/3D2 Thai Van Lung St. Great rooms at a great price and very friendly staff, also in the center of all the action and best resturants. If they are full there are 2 right next door just as accomodating. I have a house in HCMC, and a house in Mekong now, that's how much I love this place. Hope it never becomes another Thailand or Phillipines. It's the one good thing you can say about the strict commie government, they will never let that happen.
I'll be there for about a month starting August 20 in case any of you guys want to meet up.
Bangkok Mac,
Wouldn't you use Western Union to get some money to her? Its likely she knows how that works.
Ozirob
Member #2234
08-02-04, 13:29
Sort of right, the maximum withdrawal IS 2million BUT that is only in ONE TRANSACTION.
My bank card is from UK and I the limit here is £350 per day withdrawal (around 700us dollars).
When I am in VN and want to withdraw money, I have can get 2million off each withdrawal, and I can make 4-5 withdrawals.
Bangkok Mac:
I don't known which country you're living in, if you're in US, you can go to all Asian community, and ask them where can you sent the money to VN. In Southern California where i am living (San Diego) the charge was $4 per $100 to HCMC, and $8 per $100 to HN. Your girl friend must have her ID to proof who she was, an address where (the money senting to) she is staying, and the spellings on the receiver must be her name, in order for her to receive the fund easy. For ATM card, she must open a bank account, i believes there is a mimimun of money requires to open an account, most Vietnamese don't use banking system, they rather keeping cash with them.
good luck.
If you really don't want to go through all THE HASSLE of opening a bank account for her in Vietnam, filling out all the paper works or finding a money-transfer service back home in the Vietnamese community; all you need to do is just give her ONE OF YOUR DEBIT CARD WITH YOUR PIN NUMBERS (provided that you really trust & love this Gal of course!) so she can use it anytime and anywhere she likes in Vietnam. This way, you can control how much she can spend monthly and you can get the feel of things when you receive your bank statement at the end of each month.
I think this is the most convenience way. Although you may have to pay a bit more of $$$ this way because EACH TIME she uses the card to withdraw cash (does not matter how much she withdraw), there is ONE TRANSACTION FEE and ONE SERVICE FEE. So if she use your card 10 times a month, you will see on your bank statement a total of 10 Transaction fees and 10 Service Fees!
Just another option to think about my friend.
Good Luck.
There are a couple of ways to send or take out money in VN. Believe me I tried them all when I was over there.
1. If you are in the US, you can send via US Tours. They charge $2 for every $100 sent. And they take it to that person's address. Sending Western Union is a waste of money. I sent it before I learned about US Tours and it cost almost close to 20% or so to send overseas and they have to go to the Western Unions place to pick it up.
2. HSBC bank is good also. You can withdraw cash there.
3. There are many places where you can cash advance. I think VietCom Bank is the name near New World Hotel.
4. Many jewlry places will charge your card and give you cash. I think they charge me $50 for the $2000 charged to my credit card. Not bad for a purchase instead of cash advance.
I think that was about it. Not cheap having a lady in Vietnam. Hahaha.
Just got back from VN with my wife and was noting the discussion line concerning money to VN. My wife and I used the ATM method that was discussed, setting up an account and giving her a card to withdraw or deposit money from there. Although before my wife and I were married she would take money out of the account I had set up for her and re-deposit it in her bank, due to them paying 10% interest rate over a 6 month period, hence making a little money on it. She doesn't like to spend at all and would rather save as much as possible.
One note, not all the banks in Vietnam are connected to the international banking systems yet. Vietcombank is and you can withdraw money from the ATM there on international accounts. They charge a 20,000 VND fee per transaction and of course whatever your bank charges for international transactions, mine is $3 per transaction. The highest amount is 2 million per transaction as mentioned.
I used several different ATM's in Saigon with no problem and also used ones in Nha Trang and Dalat with the same results.
Just some info for anyone that's interested.
OK I have read the thread and it is very hard for me to believe that with all the HCMC experts in here there is no Info on how to avoid the 50/100 DOLLAR (S/T)girls in HCMC or where to find the one that end up in Cambodia for half the price for all night.
I will be in HCMC in 2 weeks looking for some fun with 3 friends from Canada for 3 weeks.
HELP
You would figure at the source it would be cheaper maybe its just me.
There are many places you can get girls for less than $50 a nite. It just depends on the quality you like. If you go to the clubs the girls will ask for that. They think they are all that and will demand it. But you can always counter. There are the Karoke bars where the girls are cheaper. Less than $50 for the whole nite and you have to go early to get the good ones. But some places have over 200 girls for you to choose from. You just have to make them all come in so you can pick. But going to those places cost a lot of money so not worth it if you are going alone or with just one or two friends. There are the street walkers or the moped girls. Those are cheap but quality not as good.
I hope you can speak vietnamese. Cause you can some of these girls free if you know how to talk to them. They think they will get something long term but we all know we just want to bust a nut for free. But we don't have to tell them that.
Thanks Papasan,
If you have the names and addresses of any of the places where you can get In Service. That would be helpful, you can also PM me if you like with the details.
Also Out service the places you liked the best.
Are you in HCMC now?
On The Road
08-09-04, 00:17
Me, and I think everybody else looking at this board, will be pleased to receive further information about those details, thanks.
I will be in HCMC next August, 22.
IOTR
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