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Crikey mate - you got me confused with all the la la la's!
Crikey la.
Nah, I think it's cool having all our regional accents on display here. It is the international sex guide, after all.
Well after getting tired of the previous girls I met online or through hot toc places...(Some were great girls that I would be willing to go out again while others were just moneygrubbers which I will definitely not call to go out again) I took a try at picking up girls at the malls...diamond and parkson.Your on the right track. Just ask for her number.
Viet girls are not at all backwards about people coming forwards, if you spot someone you like, just walk up to them, say "chao them", ask them if they are well etc. No more than 5 minutes of small talk, make sure you slip in "them co ban trai khong" (do you have a boyfriend), if they answer no ("khong"), you ask them if they would like to show you some of saigon and can you have her phone number
That's how I met my current girlfriend
Dishing out your phone number to strangers is totally socially acceptable here
Knowing a few "Hi how are you" phrases is also killer for getting girls numbers, they totally love it when a foreigner can ask a couple of question in their language.
Well everyone, I'll be back in HCMC again around February 15th until around the same time in March. Wow a whole month off from work. Anyway, my wife and daughter will be with me and not sure how much time I can get away from them while we visit her family here, but I sure as hell am going to try to get away a few hours at a time to visit some sweet honeys I met on tagged. My buddy just talked to me last week to let me know he is marrying a viet girl from Soc Trang. I asked him how he met her and she was cutting hair in D1. No english and was in bed with him 2 days later at the hotel. I asked him, "And you want to marry her??" But for a guy that married my 19 yo live in babysitter when he was 52, it's par for the course. His GF is 23 and a little hottie, but if I was a gambler, I'd say he's in for a ride, especially since he's been supporting her since he left the first time last year from being with her.
Anyway, just planning for some fun in HCMC and will probably go to Ca Mau, Chau Doc, Dalat, and Nha Trang again while I am there. My favorite places. Vung Tau I hit a couple of times usually because it's so close on the Hydro.
If anyone wants to catch a drink or two while I am there, just let me know. I'll have a number once I get there or you can always catch me here.
Saigon Ican
11-06-08, 12:36
I've noticed in the Tu Xuong area of district 3, near district 1, there are often some streetwalkers out at night, not every night, and not always on the same street. They can be found on the other streets parallel to Tu Xuong.
Went to the bus station at Ben Thanh market. Took the # 20 bus to District 7. Got off at Huynh Tan Phat Str. Walked up HTP and saw some Hot Tocs. Was deciding which one to go into when a guy asked me if I wanted a massage.
The sign out front read 60, 000 dong, but I was told foreigners pay 80k. Fair enough so I bought a ticket.
Had a private room. Put on a pair of shorts they gave me. Girl was maybe a 7. She had a big fat upper lip and I like that. The back massage was rough and included being stepped on. After the flip my neck and fingers were cracked and twisted.
Girl requested a tip before the finish. Offered 100k. She asked for 200k. Fair enough.
She spoke very little English. She managed to ask me my age and if I am married. I told her she is beautiful in Viet. She gave me her phone #.
Total cost:
bus 3k + 3k
ticket 80k
tip 200k
I have their business card. PM if you want details. I may go back tomorrow and try a different place.
Tu Xuong st at both ends often have girls as said, but there are often raids so some nights there's none or v few. You can wander around & girls there will stop & offer. price should be min 200k + 100k room up to 300k + room. Quality is often poor but some can surprise you. Some won't take off their top or give a bj unless you pay extra.
I usually head further out next to Big C, more selection, same prices, similar quality. I've found a non-looker who's an eager performer despite the size problems.
Mash Potatoes
11-10-08, 08:54
I usually head further out next to Big C, more selection, same prices, similar quality.
Is this Big C out in Tanh Binh towards the airport way?... Which streets would be the best?.
On the odd occasion I used to go down NTMK and NBK, but the numbers of girls has decreased significantly. As you said prob raids in that area or the local cops in the area are not happy.
Thanks
I usually head further out next to Big C, more selection, same prices, similar quality.
There are a few Big C's in town -- which one are you talking about? Which district? Street?
thanks
There are a few Big C's in town -- which one are you talking about? Which district? Street?
thanks
I think he means the area near where the Vung Tau highway turns off from the Bien Hoa/Hanoi Highway.
See quite a few joints there while driving past but never stop.
There are a few Big C's in town -- which one are you talking about? Which district? Street?
thanks
He means the one on Hoang Van Thu. The street on the way to the airport. There are usually about 5 or 6 girls standing on the street after 8:00pm.
Joe Nailer
11-13-08, 16:34
He means the one on Hoang Van Thu. The street on the way to the airport. There are usually about 5 or 6 girls standing on the street after 8:00pm.
I have never picked up a girl in street. One reason of this is because I am leery of their hygene. But I want to have a go.
Anyone who has done this in HCMC, can you give more details?
You just approch her and what would you say to a girl? in English, VN?
How pretty/ugly are they?
What is the service like? Just HJ, CBJ/BBJ, all the way?
How much?
Where would they take you? or you take them somewhere?
Hi guys,
I will be in HCMC.
Any suggestion on where can i go, e.g
Stripper club or some cool joints.
Thanks in advance.
TomTry #49, #51 or #91 Hai Ba Trung Street, District 1
Whisper is correct. Late at night there can be as many as 20 girls or none if the cops are about.
I approach these girls on my motorbike, often they don't have one so they hop on back. Price starts from 200k. Quality varies massively, looks are on low end, but only way to determine performance is try each one, they're all different. I just say hello & then ask how much, if they say more than 300k I move onto the next one. They understand numbers & hotel in English & not much more but that's all you need. They have a fav hotel nearby they'll take you to. Room is very basic cost 50 or 100k.
Berty Russ
11-17-08, 05:24
Being far away from Vietnam and Asia, I write to simply say to those on the ground, count your blessings, and enjoy them while you can! Can't wait to return, but don't know when that will be.
Happy hunting
Hi,
Just back from Nam again and will be there again in 10 weeks. Had a couple of my usual girls I always see and some new ones. But hey I have finaly got my regular girls trained and when you put them up against a new girl. Wow what a difference!
New girl. Looks awesome a real knock out 9 out of 10 but treats the whole thing like a business deal. Shower. Shower she demands. Then walks out nude (no mystery or fun in that) jumps on the bed, open her legs and tells me I can kiss her but she will not kiss me. She gets me hard and then stops to get condom. I got to touch pussy and get told off. No touching there with your fingers!
She then proceeds to give HJ but every stroke spits onto a towel. If all of that is not distracting enough she then takes a phone call during and also texts her girlfriend towards the end!
I just couldn't do it. Lost the moment and urge. Felt way too steril and inpersonel not to mention her telling me not to do it so hard.
So I stopped and said forget it. Paid her and told the mamasan that the girl was a real mood killer. Mamasan said to me "but she looks hot" and I said yeah she looks like sex on legs but crap in the bedroom. So guys that is the norm out there as I have come across this sort of thing many, many times but it's still an adventure just don't get your hopes up too high and be willing to grab a hold of one that is good and you will be fine. I always have my usual set up girls I see each trip and then experiment with others. It's all fun and exciting and wouldn't swap it for anything in the world!
Cheers
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Some general info
Just back from Nam again and will be there again in 10 weeks. Had a couple of my usual girls I always see and some new ones. But hey I have finaly got my regular girls trained and when you put them up against a new girl. Wow what a difference!
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Yes that sure is General.
Um, is it ok if we know which place(s) you are talking about?
I'm not sure I agree this is what should be a report of distinction, mainly because it doesn't identify anything that could be useful to other members. Does our moderator read these posts before that message gets attached?
As reported earlier, there is an entrance into Club Royale from the first floor of the hotel. (For those in the USA, I’m referring to the second floor.) And it was possible to avoid the 9 PM time limit for guests and get a girl into my room. The only catch was the girl needed to leave the hotel by the same door and this door usually closes around 3 AM.
I also found out I could get a massage from the hotel spa which includes a hand job. The basic massage for an was $21 and the HJ was an extra $10. (The girls started out asking for an extra $40 but came down quickly.) I know this is no great bargain but might be a useful option for those traveling with others and find it difficult to get the opportunity to explore other options.
Anyway, I want to thank all of the guys who gave suggestions. It made a long business trip much more pleasant.
Jaimito Cartero
11-28-08, 19:46
I'm not sure I agree this is what should be a report of distinction, mainly because it doesn't identify anything that could be useful to other members. Does our moderator read these posts before that message gets attached?
It doesn't seem so. For many years, lame posts have gotten this same tag.
I have never picked up a girl in street. One reason of this is because I am leery of their hygene. But I want to have a go.
Anyone who has done this in HCMC, can you give more details?
You just approch her and what would you say to a girl? in English, VN?
How pretty/ugly are they?
What is the service like? Just HJ, CBJ/BBJ, all the way?
How much?
Where would they take you? or you take them somewhere?
Have driven past this spot a few times in past month or 2 -- have seen some quite rough looking ones there, and only rough looking ones. Not worth the time, I say. If you're ok with ugly/old and cheap, then it might be worth it for you.
Hi guys,
Just a point on the comments made about items going to the Reports of Distinction thread. Agreed my post was not intended to end up there and my point was simple. It seems that many people on this forum visit Vietnam often and often complain about the lack of skills most Viet girls seem to have which in general I agree with. My point is that if you are a regular traveller to HCM then hook up with a regular, train her and have her at your service while you visit. It doesn't mean exclusive and you are still free to experiment with others but it's a great fall back and they also like the attention and money.
Generally I imagine a forum to be a place where we can all come and tell of our experiences, both good and bad. Nobody is an expert and things change quickly, we all have different tastes and its fun to read what other people have tried. It's all about positive sharing and not really intended for negative comments.
I can go into a bar today and have an awesome time and another guy could go in tomorow and have a crap time. That's all in the luck of the game which all of us on this forum play and that's what makes it so damn exciting.
It took me ages to get a regular but now I have two and both are pretty cool about it as well!
Hi guys,
Just a point on the comments made about items going to the Reports of Distinction thread. Agreed my post was not intended to end up there and my point was simple. It seems that many people on this forum visit Vietnam often and often complain about the lack of skills most Viet girls seem to have which in general I agree with. My point is that if you are a regular traveller to HCM then hook up with a regular, train her and have her at your service while you visit. It doesn't mean exclusive and you are still free to experiment with others but it's a great fall back and they also like the attention and money.
Generally I imagine a forum to be a place where we can all come and tell of our experiences, both good and bad. Nobody is an expert and things change quickly, we all have different tastes and its fun to read what other people have tried. It's all about positive sharing and not really intended for negative comments.
I can go into a bar today and have an awesome time and another guy could go in tomorow and have a crap time. That's all in the luck of the game which all of us on this forum play and that's what makes it so damn exciting.
It took me ages to get a regular but now I have two and both are pretty cool about it as well!
I guess that is one of the things about Saigon - if you have the time you can build a relationship with the gals whether you got them originally in a bar or elsewhere.
There has been a tendency for the Editors to suggest that a report go to R of D more as a form of encouragement than because the report was informative.
I am assuming that you did not quote places and addresses in your report because the gals came from private encounters and for me that is prefectly reasonable.
I have regulars that range from Antique shop proprietors, to hairdressers, to office gals and to ex bargirls and the details are not going to help anybody else so why quote them?
Hi guys,
Just a point on the comments made about items going to the Reports of Distinction thread...I can see what you mean... tho... Me personally, tend to be a stickler for sharing info. Actually what bugged me most was that the post got flagged as 'report of distinction'.
Sudsoz guessed your encounters were, like his, in 'private encounters' -- I think that's not a good guess because you mentioned that your girl had a mamasan.
Anyway, it still would be good to share details as to where you met the girl(s). We do. Share and share alike. I mean, feel free to talk about what you like, it has nothing to do with that. But looking at your post, it comes across to me at least as if you're deliberately avoiding mentioning the specific place. Sharing is cool, concealing is not cool. My 2 cents at least.
Sudsoz guessed your encounters were, like his, in 'private encounters' -- I think that's not a good guess because you mentioned that your girl had a mamasan.
Anyway, it still would be good to share details as to where you met the girl(s). We do. Share and share alike. I mean, feel free to talk about what you like, it has nothing to do with that. But looking at your post, it comes across to me at least as if you're deliberately avoiding mentioning the specific place. Sharing is cool, concealing is not cool. My 2 cents at least.I missed the comment about a mamasan in the first post. I agree with Wendella in that if there is a mamasan involved it is a commercial deal and there is no reason to not disclose details.
Joe Nailer
12-03-08, 15:28
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I have regulars that range from Antique shop proprietors, to hairdressers, to office gals and to ex bargirls and the details are not going to help anybody else so why quote them?The details might help others, why not?
I think you want to keep them to yourself, dont you? I perfectly understand that. Why should you?
But I agree with Wendella 110%.
Good hunting, as the guy @Kim Ma in Hanoi thread says
the details might help others, why not?
I think you want to keep them to yourself, dont you? I perfectly understand that. Why should you?
But I agree with Wendella 110%.
Good hunting, as the guy @Kim Ma in Hanoi thread saysGas, just to clarify, in case you misunderstood -- it wasn't Sudsoz's post I was saying that about, but Viet1's earlier report where he didn't mention any specifics about where he went. Actually it's even possible that I read more into what Viet1 wrote than what he intended. Anyway, Sudsoz often shares plenty of detail here about places to go and what to expect. If he meets some girl in an antique store, well, that's not like these girls in the Hai Ba Trung bars in any way.
This one seems to be taking on a life of its own... how about let's switch topic to something going on now.
Anyone been in Bin Bin on Le Thanh Ton lately? There and 91 on HBT seem to be tops in the number of girls and quality these days, from what I can see. It seems to be the done thing now at Bin Bin at least to go up stairs to a semi-private room, sit at one of those low tables. We're all turning Japanese, I really think so.
Anyone been in Bin Bin on Le Thanh Ton lately? There and 91 on HBT seem to be tops in the number of girls and quality these days, from what I can see. It seems to be the done thing now at Bin Bin at least to go up stairs to a semi-private room, sit at one of those low tables. We're all turning Japanese, I really think so.Not sure of the name but there is a bar on the corner of a lane towards the north end of Le Thanh Ton. Small bar with more private areas upstairs. There is a gal called Hoa working there now with a couple of others who also used to work out of NY Saigon. Skinny with a nice smile and tight *****.
Hoa went back to Dong Nai for a while and I think she still has a coffee shop there with her family. She used to come down to town 'on call' but when she went to this joint on Le Thanh Ton it all got a bit commercial and I have not seen her for a while.
My ventures to Le Thanh Ton tend to involve too much scotch and a stop at Smileys on the way back to Zone Central.
I think Sudoz you are talking about 'The little bar', which is aptly named. Went with friends about a month ago and the room downstairs is about as big as my kitchen. About 8 girls [a range of lookers] who were not pushy at all and the mamasan then, was very nice. Definitely upstairs action .one guy came down when we were there,paid and left.
Well there are 2 such bars on the 2 opposite corners of that same alley: one's called Quan Nho which means "Little Place" or sth like that -- and it's TINY, and the other is a bar that would also qualify as small, called Bin Bin. It's definitely bigger than the very narrow Quan Nho, and both have seating upstairs. Bin Bin is next door to Insomnia bar.
Well, after reading all about those bars on HBT, I think you guy are paying far more than Vietnamese guy. After trying many many times to get in to see what's really going on behind the closed doors, but got knocked back or refuse entrance, with the excuse being "all table are booked" from the guy at the front. F*** me, the real reason is because I'm a Viet guy. I finally get in once with the help of my friends (foreigner of course).
We did get in there after pub crawl from Cantina- Temple. Mo Jo. Cafe Latin. Most of the chicks just exactly as you guy have describe. I just enjoy it for my experience, and I think it's just half as good of what we, as a Viet guy could get.
Next time, you guy should try the street call Nguyen Phi Khanh, one way street begin from Dinh Tien Hoang. Vo Thi Sau intersection. It's "haircut" heaven!
So what kind of services we get in there? BBBJ!
Ticket cost VND 70K (used to be 60K) for 1 hour!
Tips: same as ticket! But as you all might aware, they will certainly nag you for more in USD. But please, don't pay more than what you should or they will turn nasty with Viet guy. They will accept it if you can show them that you know it well.
One more thing, they only work until 10: 30pm, so after that is depend on your communication to get what you want. I haven't tried it but they all want to give their phone number for "further business". My guess is VND 500K. 800K/nite.
Good luck guys.
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Peterpanabc
12-08-08, 17:24
Hiya,
Am living in hcmc for 3 months, have a 4hr gap during 12-4pm before work, whats the best place to pickup girls. Looking for cute girls early twenties max for ST, $100 max but have to be 8/9.
Cheers,
PP
Hi guys,
Generally I imagine a forum to be a place where we can all come and tell of our experiences, both good and bad. Nobody is an expert and things change quickly, we all have different tastes and its fun to read what other people have tried. It's all about positive sharing and not really intended for negative comments.
Agreed, it's fine to read about experience and thoughts of others, just for someone who plans to visit a destination for the first time, it's aways nice to read some useful infos, like where to stay and where to go.
It's not a critizism of your post, just it's an example what kind of reports are intersting for others and what not. Your report says the performance of good looking girls is often not very good.... Well, this experience made alot of guys, I guess.;-)
Well, I rode now 5 pages of the Saigon thread and I do not know what is a decend girlfriendly Hotel and what is a good Disco with nice freelancer girls.
I guess I will have in march 8 weeks holiday.:-) And I plan a trip to Bangkok. But, from there I would like to make short trips to Saigon and Manila. So, I would like to know what is a central gf Hotel in the range of 30 - 60 Dollar and where to find nice good looking Freelancer?
What are the best way to travel from BKK to Saigon and than to Manila and with which Airlne?
Well, I rode now 5 pages of the Saigon thread and I do not know what is a decend girlfriendly Hotel and what is a good Disco with nice freelancer girls.
I guess I will have in march 8 weeks holiday.:-) And I plan a trip to Bangkok. But, from there I would like to make short trips to Saigon and Manila. So, I would like to know what is a central gf Hotel in the range of 30 - 60 Dollar and where to find nice good looking Freelancer?
What are the best way to travel from BKK to Saigon and than to Manila and with which Airlne?
The Hotels thread has a lot of discussion about hotels - the key issue being that anything with stars is not GF. Advice has been given about small hotels in the Mac Thi Boui, Hai Bai Trung and Thi Sach areas and well as over near Ben Thanh market. These places are very small with rates of about $30. An influx would kill them and any publicity is not good for their other discretionary arrangements.
Two names are A&Em (several properties) and Ho Sen but there are many others.
I don't frequent the discos - I don't appreciate the noise and there are way too many other options with ordinary girls walking around the streets.
Hk Traveler
12-15-08, 02:51
Hi guys,
I will arrive tomorrow in HCMC for 2 days. I am looking for fun but during the day, any good recommandation?
Thanks by advance.
The best 2 discos for FL are Gossip and Volcano these days, if thats the type of venue of choice for you. For us westerners. the Hai Ba Trung girlie bars are a good easy to use option, should at least take a look in some of those. Otherwise, the scene is much tougher and smaller than Bangkok. How long will you be in Saigon?
Hey Kodanana, I went down Nguyen Phi Khanh but I wasn't sure which place you meant. Is it near Vau Thi Sau intersection or is it further down at those places which you can drive a mbike into the front of.
Cheers, Nonthab
The best 2 discos for FL are Gossip and Volcano these days, if thats the type of venue of choice for you. For us westerners. the Hai Ba Trung girlie bars are a good easy to use option, should at least take a look in some of those. Otherwise, the scene is much tougher and smaller than Bangkok. How long will you be in Saigon?
Thank you guys for the info.
@Wendella, I am not sure how long I will stay. End of February or Begin of March I will have 8 weeks holiday. So, I plan to go to BKK, but of course 8 weeks Thailand would be, too much.
So, I think I will stay 3 weeks in BKK and Pattaya and than go either to Manila, Saigon, Cambodia, Malaysia or Indonesia for 2 weeks and than go back to LOS. At the moment I think one week Saigon and 1 week Manila sounds good, before I head back to BKK. I had once a Vietname gf in Germany and I got the impression that Vietname girls are more pretty than Thais. At least when I judge from what I saw in Europe. The Vietnamese girls look better than the Thais.
But, maybe it's because the Vietnamese girls in Europe are grown up in Europe and the parents are often from the former upper class from Vietname whose flown after the commies conquer the south of Vietname. The Thai chicks are mostly poor Isaan girls whose are from lower class families.
End of February or Begin of March I will have 8 weeks holiday. So, I plan to go to BKK, but of course 8 weeks Thailand would be, too much.
So, I think I will stay 3 weeks in BKK and Pattaya and than go either to Manila, Saigon, Cambodia, Malaysia or Indonesia for 2 weeks and than go back to LOS. At the moment I think one week Saigon and 1 week Manila sounds good, before I head back to BKK.
We had this discussion before somewhere. The key issue is that the commercial scene is much more vibrant in SIN, BKK, MNL or CGK - but it is that - very commercial. A few weeks ago I was at EDSA in Manilla and was completely turned off by the moronic sameness of 30 skinny little gals in bikinis with a number so that you can call them over.
The big difference in Saigon is that there are many girls in the Centre who want to improve their english and spend some time with a foreigner who treats them nice. So if you have the time then so-called freebies with a genuine GFE can be had. Even the newer bar girls are very natural.
The language always seems to be a barrier to this in BKK and the regular girls in Manila don't seem to be as open minded.
If I had 8 weeks to spend I would use Singapore as a hub where you can first try the various flavours at the Orchard Tower smorgasboard and then move to wherever takes your fancy.
OK. PM me if you make it to Saigon, might be able to hook up. Sudsoz is the maestro of picking up regular girls on the street. I tend to think that approach would take a bit of legwork that maybe you don't have time for, if you're here a week or less -- tho again, Sudsoz is the final authority -- if he says it's do-able, listen to him, not me. For 'instant' girls, the Hai Ba Trung bars, discos, and maybe 'bia oms' are your best bets. The problem with bia oms is that they're best done along with a group, or at least one buddy. Back in the day, a foreigner could expect to be ripped off in these places with the surprise high bill -- but that problem seems to be falling out of fashion finally.
Also, describe better what you're after exactly and maybe we can help more.
District 1 prices are out of control. Date=LateDecember 2008.
A mens harcut with shave can be had for 10, 000 Dong in Districts 10/11 where tourists are not seen. In District 1 USD5 (5*17000) and up for same haircut is the norm. Sugar Cane Drinkis 3000 for locals. Medium bus fare is 3000 dong. Five mens haircuts seems to be the average wage for low level workers in a lot of countries. The maximum menu price is 100, 000 at tourist eateries
A Mini hotel clerk who basically manages the hotel gets 1. 3million Dong per month. A hostess girl gets 1. 2 milliopn per month plus any tips. She also gets free food and accommodation, usually sharing 3 to a room. For this, they work from 6AM to 11PM all days per week, but do get 3 hours off at lunch time. Some property prices are down 40% from last years peak. Prices and inflation went up, but the workers did not see much of an wage increase.
This is why they are reluctant to go out. They have no free hours, and their mongrel employer will fire them if late. None of 'can I have a day off'. Does not rub.
Figure 45000 to 50000 dong for a full days work.
I was taken to a massage place in District 10 off 3rd February Street by a local. , that only locals go to. Trying to get address, but roadworks killed my second sortie. Entrance ticket 50, 000, and HJ tips average 25, 000-35, 000. And they are very happy with this amount. I ruined things as girls held out for 200, 000 because I was a foreigner. Claimed 100K for massage and 100K for junior, but openly said 1 million would give ST. No deal.
Anyway, locals get ST off semi-pros (older, 28 up) for 200, 000 Full service! So massage places are off the menu for now. These girls only work to 3pm'ish. And an introduction off a native.
So next time as a massage joint be hard and firm, and in increments of 10, 000, as 50, 000 is a days wages. If manipulative B***** then tell the front counter on exit she tried to cut your throat, which is the corrrect translation for ripped off and overcharging. Drafting an Employee Evaluation form, so the message gets out. We are not walking ATM's.
The other tip is to get a girl friendly mini hotel in district 1. There are 2 levels of girl friendly, and I don't think the higher level can be got without a local doing the introduction. There is a reason. Street gals will pinch anything not nailed down.
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OK. PM me if you make it to Saigon, might be able to hook up. Sudsoz is the maestro of picking up regular girls on the street. I tend to think that approach would take a bit of legwork that maybe you don't have time for, if you're here a week or less -- tho again, Sudsoz is the final authority -- if he says it's do-able, listen to him, not me. For 'instant' girls, the Hai Ba Trung bars, discos, and maybe 'bia oms' are your best bets. The problem with bia oms is that they're best done along with a group, or at least one buddy. Back in the day, a foreigner could expect to be ripped off in these places with the surprise high bill -- but that problem seems to be falling out of fashion finally.
Also, describe better what you're after exactly and maybe we can help more.
Wendalla is right - the shop girls can take a bit of time but that's part of the fun. And remember that men are capable of multitasking - that means that you can take a shop girl to dinner and if that does not work out you can then go get something from the bars.
I just got back into town last night and dropped into Bar29 for an after dinner scotch and was immediately grabbed by Mai who is a girl that I knew several months back and lost her number. She worked in Bar29 before and quit after a week. She now says that she has been back there now for a week.
Between her and the mama I coughed up VND1.2m for the night and it was well worth it!
Wendalla is right - the shop girls can take a bit of time but that's part of the fun. And remember that men are capable of multitasking - that means that you can take a shop girl to dinner and if that does not work out you can then go get something from the bars.
I just got back into town last night and dropped into Bar29 for an after dinner scotch and was immediately grabbed by Mai who is a girl that I knew several months back and lost her number. She worked in Bar29 before and quit after a week. She now says that she has been back there now for a week.
Between her and the mama I coughed up VND1.2m for the night and it was well worth it!
I know Wendella from the Thailand Forum, as a guy who do not exaggerate, so I trust his advice. Well, of course I appreciate easy available sex with bar girls, but also I like to interact with regular girls. I made the experience from previous Indonesia trips, that a regular romance with a so called "good girl" give better memories after the trip than the easy available sex with the so called "hunting girl".
If boths is possible, even better. Will say daytime romance with "normal girl" like sightseeing, dinner, cinema and night fun with a FL from a Disco or bar, would be fine.
Also, I would appreciate to meet saigon veterans, to avoid mistakes and rip offs. So, for sure I will pm you when I know more about exact dates of my journey.
To come back to my Indonesian experience. The Indo girls were very nice and very keen to have a western boyfriend, but virginity is a must for them until marriage. So, the real "good girl" are fun to be with, but sex is not easy to have with them. Also, it would ruin there future perspective to find an Indo husband.
Also, I would appreciate to meet saigon veterans, to avoid mistakes and rip offs. So, for sure I will pm you when I know more about exact dates of my journey.
Get yourself a SIM card when you get here -- they cost next to nothing these days here. Yes, do PM a bit before coming, we'll take it from there.
Rumor flying around that some Eastern Europeans are working in the Fam n Lao area. Anyone knows?
As an expat working here, every now and then, I crave big turkey breast and drumsticks after having so many little quails
Samurai Life
12-27-08, 04:32
NPK, DBP and DBL is the place for haircut. I don't go to District 7 cause its far away.
1. Chose Girl at the front
2. Get Normal massage till BJ room is vacant.
3. Be Happy.
4. Get Normal massage again until your time come, around 1 hour.
5. Pay 80,000VND at the front for haircut that you never had.
6. Tip to the girl. 200,000VND to 300,000VND is good enough for gaijin.
I always pay 300,000VND for their professional and erotic BJ skill and CIM.
I'm 33 years old Japanese, living in vietnam for almost 6 years and I must say don't go to "Massage Parlors", go to "Haircut".
If you get used to haircut in Vietnam then "Smoke a joint before haircut".
I love my japanese girlfriend so its once a month adventure for me...
NPK, DBP and DBL is the place for haircut. I don't go to District 7 cause its far away.
I guess that DBP is Dien Bien Phu. Is this south of the bridge and therefore near to NPK which I guess is Nguyen Phi Khanh?
Mouseymike
12-29-08, 05:43
NPK, DBP and DBL is the place for haircut. I don't go to District 7 cause its far away...Hi Samurai,
Care to provide a better direction for this locality?
After reading ur posting, now veri itchy to venture there.
I guess that DBP is Dien Bien Phu. Is this south of the bridge and therefore near to NPK which I guess is Nguyen Phi Khanh?
What's DBL?
What's DBL?
I figure that DBL is Dinh Bo Linh which is quite a way out.
Mouseymike
12-30-08, 06:48
Hope the Senior forumers (like Wendella and Sudsoz) can advise where the best places to party in HCMC during the New Year Eve. Based on your years of experience here.
I figure that DBL is Dinh Bo Linh which is quite a way out.
District? Or outside the city? Never heard of it
District? Or outside the city? Never heard of it
My map has it over in Binh Thanh running parallel to Xo Viet Nghe Tinh near the big roundabout.
Just completed my first night in Saigon. Did a lot of research, studied prices, and I've found things more expensive. Trying to get these girls to come down on their prices to foreigners has been tougher than expected. Went to HBT. The bars want $25 bar fine to bring the girl back to your hotel. Then the girls were asking me for $60 in addition. I said no, and they wouldn't bargain. Maybe next time I'll see if I can get them down.
Ended up with a motorscooter driver helping me. Introduced my to a girl. No very enthusiastic, but let me bring her upstairs and pound her. 500, 000 to her and 100, 000 to the driver. I told him I'd give him that if he got me good girl. Bad deal. I could have gotten cheaper I'm sure, and she was a bit standoffi-ish. Still let me do my thing, but no enthusiasm. Any suggestions how to get prices down, or bargaining tips? I'm here for 2 more days.
Hello,
First I would love to thank all senior members in this forum for their contributions. I would be reaching HCM on the 8th of this month with another buddy. Whoever wants to catch up please PM ME.
Now. I would need info on a few things. My uncle recommended this hotel called THAI THIEN 2 HOTEL. Its at 142, Bui Thi Xuan. Q1 Thanh pho HCM. Is this a good hotel? Is it gf friendly? What is the rate like? Is it near all food stalls and action?
Now. I'm a Malaysian. I have asked so many money changers over here 1 million dongs are from the region of Ringgit Malaysia 225. 245. Its clearly quite cut throat. As the exchange rate is suppose to be below 200. Maximum I would give is RM215. Any where I could get good rates when I reach HCM or should I just change and get 1 mill Viet in Malaysia before heading to HCM to change more?
Please advise. Thank you so much. I would post up some of my experiences when I am back.
Sfini
500 is standard. Everything else you mentioned is very much standard unless you can speak Vmese and look like Dat Phan. Some of the higher end clubs, girls are asking up to 300 Franklins. That is VN my friend
See my post in the bar section.
I was sitting in the bar with the attitude, that it works out in the way that I want it or I go home without the girl.
And it worked. But there is never a guarantee for anyting in life.
Regards,
Frimu
Just completed my first night in Saigon. Did a lot of research, studied prices, and I've found things more expensive. Trying to get these girls to come down on their prices to foreigners has been tougher than expected. Went to HBT. The bars want $25 bar fine to bring the girl back to your hotel. Then the girls were asking me for $60 in addition. I said no, and they wouldn't bargain. Maybe next time I'll see if I can get them down.
Ended up with a motorscooter driver helping me. Introduced my to a girl. No very enthusiastic, but let me bring her upstairs and pound her. 500, 000 to her and 100, 000 to the driver. I told him I'd give him that if he got me good girl. Bad deal. I could have gotten cheaper I'm sure, and she was a bit standoffi-ish. Still let me do my thing, but no enthusiasm. Any suggestions how to get prices down, or bargaining tips? I'm here for 2 more days.
Happy Chappy
01-04-09, 01:59
Had a recent trip to Vietnam. One thing that I noticed was meeting non working girls if you have a few weeks there is a real possibility. Whilst I did not do the deed with any as I was sort of pre booked myself with other opportunities, I had some nice conversations and the young vietnamese girls you might run into day to day seem quite keen to practise their English on you and find out more about the outside world.
As far as more immediate action, I did checkout HBT area once, I think no 51 from memory? I went in early like 7pm so was the only punter there but seemed as though at least a dozen girls there. In terms of price, I am normally a LT man but like most girls they try to steer you to ST so they can make more money, especially when it is 7pm. I think she started at 100usd for a coulple of hours. I said no and made it pretty clear I just wanted a look tonight and a couple of drinks coz I was tired unless she could do 50 or something. We were playing pool and we had the bet where she would get naked if I won or otherwise I owed her $10. I am a good player and won (she was good aswell though, lots of practise? ). So had a quick feel of the goods. Anyway as I made it right downstairs and virtually out the door she said $50 was ok, as long as I got her back around 10ish so she could try for another customer. So she was happy to stay a good 3 hours or so and did a great job. Sorry I can not remember name, I am just hopefully giving some info and prices and negotiations and so fourth. Hopefully I can provide some more informative posts this year - my new years resolution maybe.. but she was quite attractive and 22 y o.
I also went to Apocolypse now club a few times. Starting to question whether I do LT anymore. I never pay all the amount up front, make it clear to them it is LT and the amounts they get at start and in morning. But finding after the first session they will just whinge and whinge about they can not sleep, am hungry, need to see their friend or whatever. Just being greedy trying to get some money and head back to the club and try get another client. Not happening all the time but too much for my liking. Anyway I would say that you should certainly not have to pay more than 1 mill VND for a few hours. Choice here is limited though.
I did meet a more GFE type here who I spent a few nights with and clicked with. Took her to Nah Trang for a week. She was 24 y o very nice body but small breasts. She was happy with 40 usd a day and I was to pay her. I made it clear to not beg for presents or other scams and she kept her word.
Also if anyone wants a couple of GF hotel options then PM me. Hope some of this helps.
Oh just remembering about some of the hair shops/salons in HCM. The girls there are very pretty and I really enjoyed the whole facial/massages/shampoo etc. I didn't get a HJ or anything sexual as the salon did not seem too private for this, likewise didn't ask for their phone numbers as I had my girl staying with me these days anyway. But just purely for the standard salon treatment alone, well worth a visit. Great way to shake off any jet lag!
My map has it over in Binh Thanh running parallel to Xo Viet Nghe Tinh near the big roundabout.That's correct mate. Those area is full of "Hair Cut" ( Vietnamese: HỚT TÓC MÁY LẠNH). When you see one of those signs, look through the door (glass) and if you see ONLY girls in there, that's the place. Also, you can look by motobikes being place back in (Viet man always try to hide the number plate).
Ticket 70K,
Tips (BBBJ, CIM) 100K for me, they will charge you guy more (because they think foreigner are rich)
Happy hunting.
Had a recent trip to Vietnam. One thing that I noticed was meeting non working girls if you have a few weeks there is a real possibility. Whilst I did not do the deed with any as I was sort of pre booked myself with other opportunities, I had some nice conversations and the young vietnamese girls you might run into day to day seem quite keen to practise their English on you and find out more about the outside world.
As far as more immediate action, I did checkout HBT area once, I think no 51 from memory? I went in early like 7pm so was the only punter there but seemed as though at least a dozen girls there. In terms of price, I am normally a LT man but like most girls they try to steer you to ST so they can make more money, especially when it is 7pm. I think she started at 100usd for a coulple of hours. I said no and made it pretty clear I just wanted a look tonight and a couple of drinks coz I was tired unless she could do 50 or something. We were playing pool and we had the bet where she would get naked if I won or otherwise I owed her $10. I am a good player and won (she was good aswell though, lots of practise? ). So had a quick feel of the goods. Anyway as I made it right downstairs and virtually out the door she said $50 was ok, as long as I got her back around 10ish so she could try for another customer. So she was happy to stay a good 3 hours or so and did a great job. Sorry I can not remember name, I am just hopefully giving some info and prices and negotiations and so fourth. Hopefully I can provide some more informative posts this year - my new years resolution maybe.. but she was quite attractive and 22 y o.
I also went to Apocolypse now club a few times. Starting to question whether I do LT anymore. I never pay all the amount up front, make it clear to them it is LT and the amounts they get at start and in morning. But finding after the first session they will just whinge and whinge about they can not sleep, am hungry, need to see their friend or whatever. Just being greedy trying to get some money and head back to the club and try get another client. Not happening all the time but too much for my liking. Anyway I would say that you should certainly not have to pay more than 1 mill VND for a few hours. Choice here is limited though.
I did meet a more GFE type here who I spent a few nights with and clicked with. Took her to Nah Trang for a week. She was 24 y o very nice body but small breasts. She was happy with 40 usd a day and I was to pay her. I made it clear to not beg for presents or other scams and she kept her word.
Also if anyone wants a couple of GF hotel options then PM me. Hope some of this helps.
Oh just remembering about some of the hair shops/salons in HCM. The girls there are very pretty and I really enjoyed the whole facial/massages/shampoo etc. I didn't get a HJ or anything sexual as the salon did not seem too private for this, likewise didn't ask for their phone numbers as I had my girl staying with me these days anyway. But just purely for the standard salon treatment alone, well worth a visit. Great way to shake off any jet lag!
A few comments.
The girls who you meet in the street or wherever who want to cultivate their english are well worth cultivating. The problem that develops is a management issue as they all want to be your girlfriend!
I would question the idea of paying a gal $40 a day to go somewhere out of town. I would think that many of the ordinary gals you met would accept such an invitation for no payment - just the comfort and a few small gifts along the way. I keep a stock of the duty free miniature perfumes for this purpose.
And the shampoo/facial ladies are another great source for ladies who want to have a good time for a few days or longer. Phone numbers are easy to get.
As you will be aware the GF hotels are small and easily overloaded or exposed to police so please be discrete with the details. There is enough information in the forum for guys to figure it out.
Anyway I have put a link to your report in the R of D because it has some real information.
Happy Chappy
01-04-09, 11:20
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]A few comments.
I would question the idea of paying a gal $40 a day to go somewhere out of town. I would think that many of the ordinary gals you met would accept such an invitation for no payment - just the comfort and a few small gifts along the way. I keep a stock of the duty free miniature perfumes for this purpose.
QUOTE]
What you said was correct. The girl I think would have gone anyway. The payment was my suggestion. I made the suggestion for a couple of reasons. Firstly I just felt like a week where I did not want to be bothered by a girl hinting at all the gifts she should get, I had planned on doing a lot of shopping myself so wanted a clear arrangement where she wouldn't annoy me with such requests. Secondly this one was a working girl from a bar, I wasn't in the mood for her to get too boyfriend/girlfriend on me, so thought a bit of cash might keep things more business like for now.
Hello,
Now. I would need info on a few things. My uncle recommended this hotel called THAI THIEN 2 HOTEL. Its at 142, Bui Thi Xuan. Q1 Thanh pho HCM. Is this a good hotel? Is it gf friendly? What is the rate like? Is it near all food stalls and action?
Now. I'm a Malaysian. I am a Malaysian too, share a few points with you. That hotel should be a girl friendly. I am not completely sure but judge by it's location it's one of those small hotels which are mostly girl friendly, or maybe one hundred thousand VND may solve the problem. Food stalls are everywhere in HCMC, especially Q1, don't worry about it. As for action, this Bui Thi Xuan is famous for hair saloon, but unfortunately no extra although there are girls that are young, pretty and sexy. If you may meet some girl who may communicate with you, most probably you will get her phone number, most probably she will agree to have a dinner or coffee with you. What happen after that is up to you.
Don't bring Ringgit come to Vietnam, and don't change VND outside of Vietnam. Best option is to bring USD, or surprisely, SGD is also a good option.
Enjoy your stay, and good luck.
My map has it over in Binh Thanh running parallel to Xo Viet Nghe Tinh near the big roundabout. It is correct, The roundabout is cross by DBP and Xo Viet Nghe Tinh. Continue Xo Viet Nghe Tinh towards Binh Duong's direction you will find DBL parellel at the left side of the road. Xo Viet Nghe Tinh becomes oneway road after the roundabout.
Tips, there are a lot of these kinds of Haircut shop around this area, not limited to DBL. Any place you see girls with sexy dresses lying inside an empty shop, that's it.
Local may pay 50k tips, foreigner pays about 100k. This is the amount that will make the girls happy. But of course, if you come often, 200k or 300k DOES boost up the service level.
Black Panda
01-04-09, 19:04
Hello,
First I would love to thank all senior members in this forum for their contributions. I would be reaching HCM on the 8th of this month with another buddy. Whoever wants to catch up please PM ME.
Now. I would need info on a few things. My uncle recommended this hotel called THAI THIEN 2 HOTEL. Its at 142, Bui Thi Xuan. Q1 Thanh pho HCM. Is this a good hotel? Is it gf friendly? What is the rate like? Is it near all food stalls and action?
Now. I'm a Malaysian. I have asked so many money changers over here 1 million dongs are from the region of Ringgit Malaysia 225. 245. Its clearly quite cut throat. As the exchange rate is suppose to be below 200. Maximum I would give is RM215. Any where I could get good rates when I reach HCM or should I just change and get 1 mill Viet in Malaysia before heading to HCM to change more?
Please advise. Thank you so much. I would post up some of my experiences when I am back.The hotel is not too bad though a bit out of the way. Try a newer hotel which a friend of mine stayed in recently called Haong Hai Long Hotel in Phan Hong Thai Street. You can also try Ha Hien Hotel in Ly Tu Trong which is definitely girl friendly. Do a gooogle search for hotels and you can find many. Le Thanh Ton Street has a lot of hotels which are reasonably priced too and convenient for food and shopping.
For currency is best to change to USD and then change it here. Lots of money changes along Le Loi in Eden Mall which gives pretty good rates. Money changes in KL do not stock much VND and the rates are not good.
The forum has many suggestions for places for you to cheong. So I won't say much about that. Hahahah! Enjoy yourself.
Black Panda
01-04-09, 19:22
Hello,
First I would love to thank all senior members in this forum for their contributions. I would be reaching HCM on the 8th of this month with another buddy. Whoever wants to catch up please PM ME.
Now. I would need info on a few things. My uncle recommended this hotel called THAI THIEN 2 HOTEL. Its at 142, Bui Thi Xuan. Q1 Thanh pho HCM. Is this a good hotel? Is it gf friendly? What is the rate like? Is it near all food stalls and action?
Now. I'm a Malaysian. I have asked so many money changers over here 1 million dongs are from the region of Ringgit Malaysia 225. 245. Its clearly quite cut throat. As the exchange rate is suppose to be below 200. Maximum I would give is RM215. Any where I could get good rates when I reach HCM or should I just change and get 1 mill Viet in Malaysia before heading to HCM to change more?
Please advise. Thank you so much. I would post up some of my experiences when I am back.The hotel is not too bad though a bit out of the way. Try a newer hotel which a friend of mine stayed in recently called Hoang Hai Long Hotel in Pham Hong Thai Street. You can also try Ha Hien Hotel in Ly Tu Trong Street which is definitely girl friendly. Do a gooogle search for hotels and you can find many. Le Thanh Ton Street has a lot of hotels which are reasonably priced too and convenient for food and shopping.
For currency is best to change to USD and then change it here. Lots of money changers along Le Loi in Eden Mall which gives pretty good rates. Money changers in KL do not stock much VND and the rates are not good.
The forum has many suggestions for places for you to cheong.. so i won't say much about that... hahahah!! Enjoy yourself.
This forum is getting stale - people are not posting their finds.
Stay in district 1 and you wlll be ripped off. Previously I mentioned street propositions of $30, but settling for 300K ST. Work in clubs and discos, and pay a multiple of this - for starfish performances.
Hint Take a bus and get out and explore. They are airconditioned too.Until you know better, explore in daytime, and head back before 6pm, when services are trimmed. buses come as often as 5 minutes, to 30 minutes, but less than 15 is most likely. just cross the road to come back. The stops all have big blue signs with bus numbers on them. Easy. Buses do a loop back to BT - so you wont get too far wrong.
So go to Ben Thran Markets and get on bus #26 to see the town. Bus 26 also goes to hot toc alley -20-30 mins away - and you see shops with girls doing nothing - bingo.
You may even, if attentive find massage palaces and something to do with VIP something. Get on and off the bus whenever you see a hint of something interesting, it is only 3000dong or 19 cents. If you make a mistake - another 19 cents - big deal.
If lost duck into a coffee shop, or you may be approached by a stranger.
But steer clear of dark, gloomy cave like entrances, as karaoke style joints are just robbers.
I can report that getting back from Hot Toc central after 6pm is not easy, and then requires 2 transfers. However 130,000 taxi fare from D1 will also get you there. With such a big fare, the taxi driver may even assist you finding something.
While on the bus, sometimes you can be approached, or some opportunistic gals may get out where you get out to 'help' in case you were lost.
So spy out your targets in daytime, and come back at nighttime - the best hunting is not in D1, As you stand out - they will come to you.
Get out on a bus and explore.
Bus #2 is another good one for a tour.
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Hello,
Thank you for all your kind help. I would change to US dollars and bring to Viet. Well. 1 last stupid question. From the airport to where all the action is, do you guys take a taxi or you just use busses?
If taxi how much would it cost to the city lets say district 1? Another thing is talking about moto girls. Isn't that dangerous where the moto girl could be working with the moto guy and the police with that scam? Advise on moto girl hehe
Thank you once again. I would report my experience and my friends experience as well
Regards
Smartbuy
I'm not certain that exploring the outer perimeter of district 1 is a good idea. Great if you are starting a new job and want to explore the city, or you are one of those really adventurous pack-backers, otherwise, stay in the central area.
There is no centralized entertainment hub outside of D1. If you hop on a bus and don't have an address, you'll be wondering around forever. Everywhere else in saigon looks the same, shops after shops located on busy avenues. Worse if you look foreign and don't speak a word of Vietnamese, for English proficiencies decrease outside of the tourist areas.
Sure, you'll be overcharged for everything in D1, but this is the price you pay for the conveniences. Added to that, you are on vacation in a cheap country, why waste your time to save a couple of bucks?
Another thing for guys who are thinking of picking a non-pro from the street or shops to get some free actions, first, it is really never free and i don't need to explain. Second, the chances of you ever scoring one is very remote and if you got one, she is usually what the locals called a "paratrooper," jumped in occasionally to get expensive gifts and foods then get out. Third, it wastes so much of your time.
My general advice is: never come to Vietnam just for this hobby because it it very frustrating. Do what most of the guys on this board do. Don't think too much and just have fun.
Alwayshard45
01-06-09, 09:23
Smartbuy
...Another thing for guys who are thinking of picking a non-pro from the street or shops to get some free actions, first, it is really never free and i don't need to explain. Second, the chances of you ever scoring one is very remote and if you got one, she is usually what the locals called a "paratrooper," jumped in occasionally to get expensive gifts and foods then get out. Third, it wastes so much of your time...I would have to disagree with you on this point. I know I am a relatively "new" member here at ISG (I dont post much, nor do I spend much time on this site), But I have been traveling to Vietnam for about 5 years now. Yes there is a large majority of women "paratroopers" as you would like to say. But there area also lots of girls in VN who are not like that. Maybe a girl who wants to learn more English and see a flix every now and then. Besides, isn't it nice to have dinner with some friends rather than by yourself?
Let the girl(s) know you are there for travel/business, whatever it is, and you are busy a lot and cannot be with them all the time. Be up front about it and say "hey, look, this is how it is going to be. if you dont like it, no problem" and move on.
I am giving this advice based on previous/current experience. I still have fun mongering, but I also have my "GFs" or whatever you want to call it. The best of both worlds.
Note: It also helps if you can speak just a hint of Vietnamese or are willing to learn. Lastly, its hard to build GFs on 1 week trips. I am usually there for a few months which makes it easy for me.
Hope that helps some of you.
Alwayshard45
01-06-09, 09:29
Good idea to bring US $ or the Euro isnt bad either, just depends on what the rates are at the time. All the banks in VN will take the Euro.
From the airport, take a taxi. DO NOT pay for a taxi in advance from one of the workers at the airport. There will be people waiting as you leave baggage claim, just before you exit the airport offering "Discounted taxis". They charge a flat fee of $15 or $20 US, I cant remember anymore to anywhere in D1. However, if you take a can and let the meter run you are looking at $5-8 USD. (80-120k VND).
If you wanted to take a bus, it would be a couple transfers and a bit of a walk to the bus stop. I dont think they pick up at the terminals.
Hello,
Thank you for all your kind help. I would change to US dollars and bring to Viet. Well. 1 last stupid question. From the airport to where all the action is, do you guys take a taxi or you just use busses?
If taxi how much would it cost to the city lets say district 1? Another thing is talking about moto girls. Isn't that dangerous where the moto girl could be working with the moto guy and the police with that scam? Advise on moto girl hehe
Thank you once again. I would report my experience and my friends experience as well
Regards
Always
There is a huge difference between someone working here or on business and a traveler, monger. When you are working, you are in a different mode, professional, and you are surrounded by a different class of Vietnamese. You will meet women who are more decent or professional. They will read this mannerism an trust you. Still, picking them cold out of a shop or the street for a date is rare. And when you get one, it will cost you before you get into their pants and they also expect leaving ticket.
A guy who is on vacation doesn't have time for these games. The many friends whom I travel with every year who insist on finding these women are often shunned by his buddies. While we are at bars picking out targets for a couple of hours of fun, they wander around aimlessly trying to find Cinderella.
Funny to mention, I am traveling with one right now and of the 3 weeks that we are together, he got 2 HJ from the massage places and nothing else. I've seen enough of these guys in the Philippines also, who usually go home carrying "blue balls" and feeling very disappointed .
In conclusion, if you are into this kind of a game then you are not really a monger. You are actually looking for a girlfriend and that's totally different. We travel for sex and the most satisfying ones never keep the girls more than two hours.
From the airport, take a taxi. DO NOT pay for a taxi in advance from one of the workers at the airport. There will be people waiting as you leave baggage claim, just before you exit the airport offering "Discounted taxis". They charge a flat fee of $15 or $20 US, I cant remember anymore to anywhere in D1. However, if you take a can and let the meter run you are looking at $5-8 USD. (80-120k VND).
Suggest that you ask for Mai Linh or VinaTaxi - definitely not the Saigon Airport (SASCO) taxi company. And go on the meter as AH says.
Always
There is a huge difference between someone working here or on business and a traveler, monger. When you are working, you are in a different mode, professional, and you are surrounded by a different class of Vietnamese. You will meet women who are more decent or professional. They will read this mannerism an trust you. Still, picking them cold out of a shop or the street for a date is rare. And when you get one, it will cost you before you get into their pants and they also expect leaving ticket.
A guy who is on vacation doesn't have time for these games. The many friends whom I travel with every year who insist on finding these women are often shunned by his buddies. While we are at bars picking out targets for a couple of hours of fun, they wander around aimlessly trying to find Cinderella.
Funny to mention, I am traveling with one right now and of the 3 weeks that we are together, he got 2 HJ from the massage places and nothing else. I've seen enough of these guys in the Philippines also, who usually go home carrying "blue balls" and feeling very disappointed .
In conclusion, if you are into this kind of a game then you are not really a monger. You are actually looking for a girlfriend and that's totally different. We travel for sex and the most satisfying ones never keep the girls more than two hours.
Agree and disagree.
Firstly I don't go anywhere unless someone is paying and I go to enough good places that I don't need to go on mongering trips. I am also fortunate to have clients who are playing the same games as me.
Where I differ is that I work on the private connections in Saigon and have had a number who have come across. And you are dead right they are never free and sometimes they can get a bit clingy. But they can give you a different more GFE type of experience.
Now sometimes these things take time and I have often taken a nice girl to dinner and then gone to Smileys, Bar 29 or whatever for takeout afterwards.
Must admit that I pity the guys that you mention as constantly looking for Cinderella - you have to learn to make the most of what is on offer on any particular day.
I'm not certain that exploring the outer perimeter of district 1 is a good idea.
Complete rubbish
What sort of lame tourist can't explore? Secondly D1 is no Patpong, if Allez Booz is "Entertainment" then knock yourself out. Its easier and quicker than finding your airport 'gate' assuming you used the airport yourself. No NEP's in D1! Thirdly, noting ventured nothing gained.
I'm sure that is what the District 1 Mafia, pimps and vested interests would like.
Its like saying don't go downtown or uptown, never use the subway, and never leave or venture out of Manhattan. Mongers explore. Viet pussy, Thai pussy, Cambo pussy, and in the words of Cheech. We got all sorts of pussy. I am reliably informed South Vn has new villas popping up at $15 night, and about the same for all night room service.
I'll admit this and a 1 hour flight down. Where English is uncommon. IS out of my comfort zone for now. Looks all the same. Rubbish. Not until nighttime. Yes, then it is confusing. As for saving a few dollars. Well over a month 30 days by $50 day savings. Well that is a fair whack.
Given 50% of what D1'ers pay is protection money. I'd rather not pay that tax, and don't. If you want to save dollars and hassle, fly to Pattaya straight away. Vn does not want tourist dollars.
When to explore? I don't know about you, but half my day is in recovery mode. I can be drunk, sleeping it off, or being fleeced in some karaoke bar. The only excuse for not getting out is that you are fully doped or shagged out, or you are wheelchair bound, but on Ciallis.
Armed with 2 or more Hotel cards, and a Map, and a wad of emergency US dollars, that's all you need. And a mobile phone with local sim.
An inner Velcro leg pocket will make pickpocketing difficult, and a few different size fish hooks sewn into the decoy wallet is optional. Newspaper, if you are more warm hearted.
There is already a post about sign language and a notepad and a biro to discuss financial things. Taxi's are easy. Mini hotels are also easy. 190, 000 dong a night nearly everywhere.
Packing a 'phrasebook' one of these photocopy bootlegs available everywhere covers bedroom etiquette and chat up situations.
I'm fully confident 1 hour out of ground zero I' old, and can actually read a map, but it won't be long before hand held GPS makes it mark. Midday is safe to take a bus trip, and try getting back before the evening (5pm) traffic buildup. At 6pm, I will be hunting, knowing its just a matter of price. So bro, got 2 hours to spare?
Reasons to explore.
1) Recovery period
2) Gals proffered in D1 are mostly inexperienced, and top dollar still gets duds
3) Photos and bragging rights
4) Less competition
5) Getting and exchanging phone numbers
6) Cost effective
7) Secrets and Bargains for locals only exist outside D1
8) Outer District girls KNOW thay have chances and will seek you out.
9) Language issues? Bulldust. But if its really really promising, seek an internet cafe, or just sign language - offer a free dinner/coffee and let her keep the change out of a 100K donger.
10) Law of percentages say you will land something
11) Hotel doorman/gal od D1 - can be a translator unit - mobile is cheap.
12) Sign language and phrasebook , breaks ice, and can be fun
13) If still unsure or out of your 'zone', import your find back to D1 - taxi fare is chump change
14) There are better lookers outside D1
15) You don't mind that kind of goofing around - you have slack time to burn.
16) Winning unexpected prizes outweighs opportunity cost of nothing.
17) Knowing a dropped 50K here and there to someone needy, is better than money hungry vampires that float about in D1.
18 At 6pm you will be back in D1 anyway.
19) Outer area cyclos or Taxi's know local places the dudes in D1 would dream, about.
20) Phone numbers. The ones that baulk, may pimp their ';friends'
21) Services like these can ONLY get got outside D1.
22) Action: Watch the bus driver plow a path, and yell and scream, while SMS'ing at the same time.
Cutting to the chase, Bus 26 was good. My biggest complaint was BBBJ's, protected sex or covering up almost has to be demanded. They have it in their mouth before you know it.
This is so they can beg another 100K tip for natural smoking. Apparently the technique of in mouth and rolling it on application is not known in Vn. Soooo inexperienced.
Full on sex usually has to wait until the next day/second visit. On arrival point to the phrasebook 'sex today', and if they say 'kong' or signal no, show phrase ' I think I'll go now, and look around', may prompt a new response. Or allow VIP treatment, or get a much higher 'number'. Much more than a normal hairwash. (Could someone please translate " I'll go now and look around until I find exactly what I want" to vn, although sign language for this is pretty easy.
There must be 50 plus Hot Toc's out there, competition is fierce, customers few, and some will practically fight to see who gets the westener.
Downsides:
Make good eye contact, and the the hot toc girls remember you. Try walking past in daylight. They will spot you, or run out and wave, even if you were on the way to establishment #2, where something was imminent. Shame, but catching the bus one stop past, at 3000 dong is one way over this.
2) Busses sometimes only slow down, and not actually stop, so you may need to take a flying leap in and out of the bus. When leaping out, look for motorbikes both sides.
3) Asking Directions. Don't believe. Vn strangers. They will often point you in the wrong/random direction. Even with address card, rather than don't know. Chalking arrows on the ground as you explore is OK. They think you are crazy anyway.
On reflection, maybe it is best if lazy non-explorers with fat wallets don't spoil the undiscovered districts. Districts 3 and 5 also need exploration. At the bus depot, point to a map, and they speak enough English to write it down, and tell you the bus number to catch.
The busses have conductors, and with a slip of paper, will tell you where to get out.. Easy.
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smartbuy
You are a tourist. You get on a bus, wandering around, sight seeing and maybe find an obscure location to get a BBBJ. That's fine. Do you really think that a monger coming from thousands of miles away would get on a bus to look for some lame BBBJ without an address?
You maybe are savvy about traveling and exploring but the common Joes are not. Hell, all that to-do list, there better be a Angelina Jolie waiting for me somewhere.
You cannot compare between exploring a city and hunting for pussies. The latter doesn't have coordinates on a map and sure is plagued with scammers. The outer areas are notorious for what the locals called "block and strip." This happened to local monger I know where the girl made an excuse and stepped out of the room. Three thugs rushed in and stripped everything he had. In this case, you don't have the option of going to the authorities.
Westerners coming from their safe places to a third word country think that their rights apply there and with a touch of the dial, siren and lights appear.
I do not recommend this kind of exploring to any monger, especially when you are alone.
No, I am a monger.
I am also not a shrill, trying to selli the benefits of established D1 business interests.
I'm observing the rules of this forum by not giving specific addresses, so police can't shut them down or get their cut of extortion money.
And give them a headache by giving travelers access to their local.
Plagued by scammers. No D1 is plagued by scammers, and ungrateful ripoff merchants.
I'm just reporting that D1 is like Emerald Shopping Plaza, pitched towards the top end of town and completely overpriced. I discovered greener grass outside D1, available for the price of a bus ticket. I'll leave it to the shoppers to decide if its worth their time to shop further afield.
There are sufficient prior reports that D1 is nothing like it was 2 or 5 years ago. Very much the worse for tourists
Clever mongers do things concurrently, arranging multiple hookups. They manage their time, and work to a plan. "Slack' time in project management speak, means professionally managing as many hookups as possible with the given resources.
Vn's 'problem' is it is outrageously difficult to get a true overnight long timer or dink/monger after midnight for traditional closing time bargains. Which means we get some actual sleep, which in turn means new work/activity has to be scheduled for daylight hours.
Many of us use vn as a base and bus/fly it to Siam Riep too, which takes some planning.
Fat slobs just get drink in overpriced D1 bars.devoid of Thai table dancing, trying to chase some of the very cool waitresses. Only get 'lucky' when they start dropping USD 100 notes. Ok for suited businessmen, Japanese and Oil money. , or incredibly short on time. Thats not mongering, when you pay that much. That's prostitution!
Nameless district: Only because I don't want to turn the heat on the area, but other posts describe it with street names. Very obvious from a bus window. Barber shops staffed by 3 or so lovelies, maybe one in hotpants and no customers in sight. You would be blind not to notice all 10 or more all women toc tocs in close proximity.
Lame BBBJ: No. Soooo much more. With a mobile phone and a pad, you get numbers, and that leads to other things and hookups. As they pimp their sisters and friends. For sure.
Dangers: Imaginary in broad daylight, if properly risk managed. I walked everywhere at night, in outer districts within reason, no probs. Everyone knows everyone, so strangers stand out.
Locals can and do snitch to the police, meaning your takeaway must be brought back to D1.
Block and Strip. Unlikely for High Visibility Hot Toc's. I think you may be referring to following an unknown girl to obscure back alley mini hotel or residence after dark. Different altogether. Karokes do this too.
Block & Strip activityies are also present in D1. And in cave like Karokes. According to respectable posts, stay well clear of ALL Karokes. They are dangerous. Many a tourst has also received a hiding in D1, when outrageously high 'tabs' are presented at the end of the session.
We are going in an established shopfront, facing the main street, next to other shops, not some nameless back alley hotel. And in broad daylight. Think fixed address. It's just not worth rolling a client unless he is seen flashing and carrying an obscenely unsafe amount of money around, and has foolishly told when he is going home.
I have a small pocketbook filled with choice phrases written by a local, and have learnt a dozen or so phrases, so they would be aware of possible consequences/ retribution, and that you have a friend/contacts. Quicky they get straight back to business as normal, while they silently work out if you can be stung for 50-200% more than the local price.
The major risk, as described by many post in this forums, is 1) Overcharging, 2. Shortchanging 3) pickpocketing, and 4) Foolishy arranging date in location girl has chosen.
Vietnamese are clever, and stick to 1 and 2, for fear of attacting the police and the party, who always want a cut of the action.
Pickpocketing, uncommon. But listed moreso in Cambodian ISG posts, or money disappearing out of 'locked' lockers. Knowing how much you have on you, Marked notes, movement sensors, make this risky. I find pickpocteting is reserved to mostly to stupid people, who look like marks. Not wise to try on Italians, Eastern Europeans or somebody over six foot tall.
Precautions on where and how to conduct operations are well documented in previous posts, including drugs and spiked drinks, and getting out your comfort zone when you smell a rat.
As for Alone, YMMV. I checked the place out in daylight. If you go back at night, then yeah, taking a friend is good advice, or tipping the taxi driver 150, 000 dong so he can wait / partake as well.
I was completely comfortable and felt safe exploring the outer districts. Sticking to wide streets and while buses were still operating, even alone.
I stayed in a 'outer' area for several nights. After a day, The locals knew of me, the local food hawkers, breakfast place, the drink hawkers, the suga cane crusher (3000 dong). And the coffee shop girls. I felt particularly safe, even at night. Within striking distance of my hotel. Locals always back locals, and self police the area.
It would take me a bit to describe the situation, but lets say is better to head back to D1 before 8-9pm, before the pedestrians thin out. I think the real risk is not finding a taxi thats willing to go by the meter at this hour.
This should suit most mongers, as plenty of USD $30 FS ST offers in District 1 at this time (beatable down to 300, 000 dong. Making clear it is for 1 hour or more). Make it clear your minihotel is fully GF and close by. They will ask for more after the session, but only tip another 50K or so, or nothing if they played starfish and lacked GFE skills. Locals get 2 hours for that rate. It helps to swap phone numbers, and tell them you will have them again if they are good.
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No, I am a monger.
I am also not a shrill, trying to selli the benefits of established D1 business interests.
I'm observing the rules of this forum by not giving specific addresses, so police can't shut them down or get their cut of extortion money.
And give them a headache by giving travelers access to their local.
Plagued by scammers. No D1 is plagued by scammers, and ungrateful ripoff merchants.
I'm just reporting that D1 is like Emerald Shopping Plaza, pitched towards the top end of town and completely overpriced. I discovered greener grass outside D1, available for the price of a bus ticket. I'll leave it to the shoppers to decide if its worth their time to shop further afield.
There are sufficient prior reports that D1 is nothing like it was 2 or 5 years ago. Very much the worse for tourists
Clever mongers do things concurrently, arranging multiple hookups. They manage their time, and work to a plan. "Slack' time in project management speak, means professionally managing as many hookups as possible with the given resources.
Vn's 'problem' is it is outrageously difficult to get a true overnight long timer or dink/monger after midnight for traditional closing time bargains. Which means we get some actual sleep, which in turn means new work/activity has to be scheduled for daylight hours.
Many of us use vn as a base and bus/fly it to Siam Riep too, which takes some planning.
Fat slobs just get drink in overpriced D1 bars.devoid of Thai table dancing, trying to chase some of the very cool waitresses. Only get 'lucky' when they start dropping USD 100 notes. Ok for suited businessmen, Japanese and Oil money. , or incredibly short on time. Thats not mongering, when you pay that much. That's prostitution!
Nameless district: Only because I don't want to turn the heat on the area, but other posts describe it with street names. Very obvious from a bus window. Barber shops staffed by 3 or so lovelies, maybe one in hotpants and no customers in sight. You would be blind not to notice all 10 or more all women toc tocs in close proximity.
Lame BBBJ: No. Soooo much more. With a mobile phone and a pad, you get numbers, and that leads to other things and hookups. As they pimp their sisters and friends. For sure.
Dangers: Imaginary in broad daylight, if properly risk managed. I walked everywhere at night, in outer districts within reason, no probs. Everyone knows everyone, so strangers stand out.
Locals can and do snitch to the police, meaning your takeaway must be brought back to D1.
Block and Strip. Unlikely for High Visibility Hot Toc's. I think you may be referring to following an unknown girl to obscure back alley mini hotel or residence after dark. Different altogether. Karokes do this too.
Block & Strip activityies are also present in D1. And in cave like Karokes. According to respectable posts, stay well clear of ALL Karokes. They are dangerous. Many a tourst has also received a hiding in D1, when outrageously high 'tabs' are presented at the end of the session.
We are going in an established shopfront, facing the main street, next to other shops, not some nameless back alley hotel. And in broad daylight. Think fixed address. It's just not worth rolling a client unless he is seen flashing and carrying an obscenely unsafe amount of money around, and has foolishly told when he is going home.
I have a small pocketbook filled with choice phrases written by a local, and have learnt a dozen or so phrases, so they would be aware of possible consequences/ retribution, and that you have a friend/contacts. Quicky they get straight back to business as normal, while they silently work out if you can be stung for 50-200% more than the local price.
The major risk, as described by many post in this forums, is 1) Overcharging, 2. Shortchanging 3) pickpocketing, and 4) Foolishy arranging date in location girl has chosen.
Vietnamese are clever, and stick to 1 and 2, for fear of attacting the police and the party, who always want a cut of the action.
Pickpocketing, uncommon. But listed moreso in Cambodian ISG posts, or money disappearing out of 'locked' lockers. Knowing how much you have on you, Marked notes, movement sensors, make this risky. I find pickpocteting is reserved to mostly to stupid people, who look like marks. Not wise to try on Italians, Eastern Europeans or somebody over six foot tall.
Precautions on where and how to conduct operations are well documented in previous posts, including drugs and spiked drinks, and getting out your comfort zone when you smell a rat.
As for Alone, YMMV. I checked the place out in daylight. If you go back at night, then yeah, taking a friend is good advice, or tipping the taxi driver 150, 000 dong so he can wait / partake as well.
I was completely comfortable and felt safe exploring the outer districts. Sticking to wide streets and while buses were still operating, even alone.
I stayed in a 'outer' area for several nights. After a day, The locals knew of me, the local food hawkers, breakfast place, the drink hawkers, the suga cane crusher (3000 dong). And the coffee shop girls. I felt particularly safe, even at night. Within striking distance of my hotel. Locals always back locals, and self police the area.
It would take me a bit to describe the situation, but lets say is better to head back to D1 before 8-9pm, before the pedestrians thin out. I think the real risk is not finding a taxi thats willing to go by the meter at this hour.
This should suit most mongers, as plenty of USD $30 FS ST offers in District 1 at this time (beatable down to 300, 000 dong. Making clear it is for 1 hour or more). Make it clear your minihotel is fully GF and close by. They will ask for more after the session, but only tip another 50K or so, or nothing if they played starfish and lacked GFE skills. Locals get 2 hours for that rate. It helps to swap phone numbers, and tell them you will have them again if they are good.
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Hi,
This will be my first trip to VN. I'll stay in HCMC from Feb. 17-22. I want to do some sightseeing but also explore the scene a bit. I'm European, early 50ies. If any bm is around at that time, let me know and perhaps we can get a beer or two.
Any recommendations for GF-hotel not too expensive and LT-lady reasonably priced? As I am coming from and going to Thailand, if nothing mongerwise is happening in VN, I can live with it but it would be nice though.
Cheers,
House007
Hi,
This will be my first trip to VN. I'll stay in HCMC from Feb. 17-22. I want to do some sightseeing but also explore the scene a bit. I'm European, early 50ies. If any bm is around at that time, let me know and perhaps we can get a beer or two.
Any recommendations for GF-hotel not too expensive and LT-lady reasonably priced? As I am coming from and going to Thailand, if nothing mongerwise is happening in VN, I can live with it but it would be nice though.
Cheers,
House007
House - there is a thread on hotels which gives some information about the GF ones both on the Dong Khoi/Mac Thi Boui/ Hai Bai Trung areas and over near to Ben Thanh Market. Whilst some people think the bars around Hai Bai Trung are expensive they are accessible and a good time can be had if you take a little care and negotiate hard.
I will be out of town on the dates you mention. Have fun.
You pay 10, 12USD for one way to HCMC from PP. (it is very cheap isnt it)
As part of "their service", they sign the customs paper (the white card) for you, by copying your signature on your passport. They dont think nothing beyond that; like when you are leaving Vietnam what happens if the immigration officer at the airport wont let you go because your signature on the passport and the customs card dont match. But dont think too much. It was too late when you handed your passport to the bus company (no choice) when you got on the bus.May plan to do PP and onward by bus to HCMC if time and money permits. Any idea how long this bus trip will take and what are the usual departing times? Not sure if this have an overnite bus ride or just for a few hours trip during the daytime only.
I have been to China twice and have done the BBS (barber shop) brothel scene in Shanghai.
Tried to read this section going back 6 months and am a little confuse if the Hot Toc (hair saloon) is the same as the BBS in China (where you pick a lady,pay upfront to mamasan ,go to room for FS=1 shot) and everything is including in one price- about $25 for China).
If not, then what are the differences so I could make the comparison as many reports on Hot Toc seems to be limited to HJ or maybe BJ only and not FS.
Thanks
House - there is a thread on hotels which gives some information about the GF ones both on the Dong Khoi/Mac Thi Boui/ Hai Bai Trung areas and over near to Ben Thanh Market. Whilst some people think the bars around Hai Bai Trung are expensive they are accessible and a good time can be had if you take a little care and negotiate hard.
I will be out of town on the dates you mention. Have fun.Thanks Sudsoz. Appreciate yr reply.
Cheers. H007
Maybe different between hot toc's in hanoi and hcmc. I have just been at them in hanoi.
I have had only had one FS in a hot toc. The girls are often too scared to do other things than BJ in the hot toc. I've never been in a separated room, it has always been behind a thin curtain.
Except the one and only FS, all the other times I have just had BBBJCIM or without cim. On just one occacion the girl was not fond of giving to much head and tried to make me cum with mostly handjobing.
Normally they never undress, not even the bra comes off, if you don't ask them nicely to take it off. FIV on all girls.
There is no problem to decide FS outside the hot toc with the girls. Most of them will accept it.
Joe Nailer
01-19-09, 16:11
May plan to do PP and onward by bus to HCMC if time and money permits. Any idea how long this bus trip will take and what are the usual departing times? Not sure if this have an overnite bus ride or just for a few hours trip during the daytime only.
It takes about 5, 6 hours, about 4 hours to the Cambo-VN border, and about 2 hours to HCMC, Pham Ngu Lao area (Backpacker's area). Coaches leave in the morning, every hour I think. There are earlier ones but , 8am, 9am ones are reasonable. You get to HCMC in the afternoon.
It takes about 5, 6 hours, about 4 hours to the Cambo-VN border, and about 2 hours to HCMC, Pham Ngu Lao area (Backpacker's area). Coaches leave in the morning, every hour I think. There are earlier ones but , 8am, 9am ones are reasonable. You get to HCMC in the afternoon.Thanks for the reply. Sounds ok and reasonable enough. From what I read so far, they will not let me in Vietnam (border) without a visa so 1st need to get one at the PP Viet embassy. What's the current cost of a visa for a US citizen and how many days should I stay in PP for the visa to be completed.
(in the past, it was about $25 and 3 working days, but not sure if Saturdays counts as a working day for the Viet embassy in PP, as in many many asian countries, Saturday is not a day off for them)?
Shark
Hello all, I have been in HCMC for more than 4 years now and hadn't come across this site till 2 weeks ago. As a somewhat avid monger, I find it interesting. I have been with dozens of girls in Cat Tocs (Hot Tocs) around the edges of D1 and Binh Thanh and D7 over the years and have also bedded dozens of girls and women looking for some small gift. I've taken thousands of pictures of my activities as well. I usually post them on another site where users can comment on individual pictures and girls. I try to do it as a series, from in the hotel clothed, to undressing, showering, oral and fucking and also some posing. Most girls let me take pics. Hot Tocs do not allow pics but I have snatched a very few. I never pay extra for pics and I never discuss it before. I don't go with any girls from bars or karaoke and certainly none from any of the HBT bars so often mentioned here. None of the girls I meet can speak any English, I speak to them in Vietnamese. I pay only 100k, 150k or 200k for an hour or so in the hotel, and 70 or 80k plus 100k tip for the girl to Hot Toc BBBj and CIM. I have little interest in hand jobs or 1 hour massages. I'll start posting at the beginning from when I arrived in 2005. At the time I would go to some of those awful, dirty little Cafe Om near the Nguyen Van Linh and Nguyen Thi Thap intersection. They had some cute little girls there in appalling conditions. The deal was 30k for inside coffee, sit with them, touch, kiss, get it out, shove their head down in your lap till you were happy and they had a mouthful. 50k for them and maybe 8k more for their soda. Those places have been demolished as the road was widened and finished, but they exist in a somewhat different form a few hundred meters down the road. The blue purple Cat Tien sign even survives. Now they ask 150k, coffee inside and tip, all done. I haven't tried, I have other places I prefer, cleaner, with AC and more central. Anyway, I will begin posting some pics today, in Photos I guess is best. How to link this report with photos I'll post? I'm starting with young cutie, 18 YO Ngoc who was my favorite with over 10 visits, and another sweetie called Ngoc Thuy, from a slightly cleaner place next door.
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Johndao,
can u received PM??
Samurai Life
01-22-09, 11:26
Hello all, I have been in HCMC for more than 4 years now and hadn't come across this site till 2 weeks ago. As a somewhat avid monger, I find it interesting. I have been with dozens of girls in Cat Tocs (Hot Tocs) around the edges of D1 and Binh Thanh and D7 over the years and have also bedded dozens of girls and women looking for some small gift. I've taken thousands of pictures of my activities as well. I usually post them on another site where users can comment on individual pictures and girls. I try to do it as a series, from in the hotel clothed, to undressing, showering, oral and fucking and also some posing. Most girls let me take pics. Hot Tocs do not allow pics but I have snatched a very few. I never pay extra for pics and I never discuss it before. I don't go with any girls from bars or karaoke and certainly none from any of the HBT bars so often mentioned here. None of the girls I meet can speak any English, I speak to them in Vietnamese. I pay only 100k, 150k or 200k for an hour or so in the hotel, and 70 or 80k plus 100k tip for the girl to Hot Toc BBBj and CIM. I have little interest in hand jobs or 1 hour massages. I'll start posting at the beginning from when I arrived in 2005. At the time I would go to some of those awful, dirty little Cafe Om near the Nguyen Van Linh and Nguyen Thi Thap intersection. They had some cute little girls there in appalling conditions. The deal was 30k for inside coffee, sit with them, touch, kiss, get it out, shove their head down in your lap till you were happy and they had a mouthful. 50k for them and maybe 8k more for their soda. Those places have been demolished as the road was widened and finished, but they exist in a somewhat different form a few hundred meters down the road. The blue purple Cat Tien sign even survives. Now they ask 150k, coffee inside and tip, all done. I haven't tried, I have other places I prefer, cleaner, with AC and more central. Anyway, I will begin posting some pics today, in Photos I guess is best. How to link this report with photos I'll post? I'm starting with young cutie, 18 YO Ngoc who was my favorite with over 10 visits, and another sweetie called Ngoc Thuy, from a slightly cleaner place next door.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Yep!
There are tons of haircut(hot toc), that never give you a haircut and many coffee shops around this street called "Nguyen Thi Thap".
If you go there by foot tell taxi driver to go to "Lotte Mart in District 7". Nguyen Thi Thap street start from there. But it is quite long street so I will suggest to go there by motorbike. I offten go there by my Yamaha 100cc motorbike.
Here is the map.
http://www.diadiem.com/saigon.aspx?code=0;10;40;-196;-218;0;0;87552;248064;87552;248064;-1;-1;875269;2477776;150;349440;80;990720;0;0;0&ad=000E066E7948117359595B59106559515A566E056608066E066E076F700B000C056E7C401173595D575D1061595859566F076E00076E066906$$$6E71&auxi=0;-1;1;1;1;1;5;1;1;1&cont=6E076E1C046E1C016E00&xf=-1&state=SaiGon&fn=-1&n=6;4;-1;-1;-1&slang=0
Good luck.
Anyway, I will begin posting some pics today, in Photos I guess is best. How to link this report with photos I'll post?
If you post the pictures separately you can put a link to the pics in the report post by right clicking on the report number. But I would suggest that you post the pics with the report.
Please be aware that you can upload pics direct to the forum so that you do not have to use a third party host.
I've been reading the posts bout massage parlours and their extra bits. Seems like the going price for these things is 200k or so, and that it had to be negotiated?
Thus far I did not need to negotiate on the price nor was the price for the extra bits asked; extra regarding HJ, BBBJ + touching. Basically the girl just tells me to turn over and then starts playing. No questions asked!
I don't know if the 200k is for foreigners or *excuse my discription* white folks but my cousine who lives in vietnam only pays 100k. Only once has he told me the girl was asking for more, but he settled that by saying that he'll come back again *yea right*. But he only pays 100k. I myself pay 150k because I feel its a bit cheap paying 100k since a normal massage I normally tip 100k. He even once wanted to pay 50k, they would have left us leave the place but I felt kinda bad just leaving with 50k even though that place was not all that neat and tidy like your hotel type massages, this was a small hot toc (barber shop).
Anyways just wanted to know if you guys have ever experienced this? Because it seems like everyone had to negotiate on a price. I keep going in expecting to have to negotiate but not once has I been asked for a price. I even told them that I'm a viet kieu but that did not cause them to ask for a price.
I've been reading the posts bout massage parlours and their extra bits. Seems like the going price for these things is 200k or so, and that it had to be negotiated?
Thus far I did not need to negotiate on the price nor was the price for the extra bits asked; extra regarding HJ, BBBJ + touching. Basically the girl just tells me to turn over and then starts playing. No questions asked!
I don't know if the 200k is for foreigners or *excuse my discription* white folks but my cousine who lives in vietnam only pays 100k. Only once has he told me the girl was asking for more, but he settled that by saying that he'll come back again *yea right*. But he only pays 100k. I myself pay 150k because I feel its a bit cheap paying 100k since a normal massage I normally tip 100k. He even once wanted to pay 50k, they would have left us leave the place but I felt kinda bad just leaving with 50k even though that place was not all that neat and tidy like your hotel type massages, this was a small hot toc (barber shop).
Anyways just wanted to know if you guys have ever experienced this? Because it seems like everyone had to negotiate on a price. I keep going in expecting to have to negotiate but not once has I been asked for a price. I even told them that I'm a viet kieu but that did not cause them to ask for a price.
There is a huge difference between massage places patronised by white faces in District 1 and those in outer areas.
Phantomtiger2
01-24-09, 00:36
Anyways just wanted to know if you guys have ever experienced this? Because it seems like everyone had to negotiate on a price. I keep going in expecting to have to negotiate but not once has I been asked for a price. I even told them that I'm a viet kieu but that did not cause them to ask for a price.
My feeling (if I'm not mistaken) is that you can speak the Viet. Language somewhat or even fluently/ and maybe look local so they may be more reluctant to pull anything on you and assume you already know the local rates.
For the rest of us with no Viet speaking skills, we are more limited with our cost options.---IMO
PT
Phantomtiger2
01-24-09, 02:49
Thanks for the reply. Sounds ok and reasonable enough. From what I read so far, they will not let me in Vietnam (border) without a visa so 1st need to get one at the PP Viet embassy. What's the current cost of a visa for a US citizen and how many days should I stay in PP for the visa to be completed.
(in the past, it was about $25 and 3 working days, but not sure if Saturdays counts as a working day for the Viet embassy in PP, as in many many asian countries, Saturday is not a day off for them)?
Shark
Not 100% sure, but last time I was in Cambo, the Viet visa was somewhere around $40 or more, but I didnt apply for one at that time so not certain as didnt have time for travel to Viet.
Also, could take up to 5 working days (not including Sat/Sun).
Maybe some ISG member who recently applied for this can double check the $ and time.
Also, maybe post this question in the Cambo thread as many from there might know the answers.
Peace.
PT
Phantomtiger2
01-24-09, 02:53
Yep!
There are tons of haircut(hot toc), that never give you a haircut and many coffee shops around this street called "Nguyen Thi Thap".
If you go there by foot tell taxi driver to go to "Lotte Mart in District 7". Nguyen Thi Thap street start from there. But it is quite long street so I will suggest to go there by motorbike. I offten go there by my Yamaha 100cc motorbike.
Here is the map.
http://www.diadiem.com/saigon.aspx?code=0;10;40;-196;-218;0;0;87552;248064;87552;248064;-1;-1;875269;2477776;150;349440;80;990720;0;0;0&ad=000E066E7948117359595B59106559515A566E056608066E066E076F700B000C056E7C401173595D575D1061595859566F076E00076E066906$$$6E71&auxi=0;-1;1;1;1;1;5;1;1;1&cont=6E076E1C046E1C016E00&xf=-1&state=SaiGon&fn=-1&n=6;4;-1;-1;-1&slang=0
Good luck.
1)You had titled cheap BJ and FS around these locations. I seem to have an idea that Hot Tocs usually only do HJ and occasional BJ but FS?
Can you confirm this and also what would be the going rates for FS at these places?
1a)Also mention that Nguyen Thi Thap is a very long st. can you narrow this down a bit (with possible cross/intersecting streets) where the action is concentrated.
ex:its like saying the action is on Broadway in NYC but Broadway st is over 15miles long!
2)cant seem to access your map, anyone else having trouble?
3)can't figure this out but your post seems larger in size than normal post? maybe its just my computer.
PT
My feeling (if I'm not mistaken) is that you can speak the Viet. Language somewhat or even fluently/ and maybe look local so they may be more reluctant to pull anything on you and assume you already know the local rates.
For the rest of us with no Viet speaking skills, we are more limited with our cost options.---IMO
PTI can speak the language somewhat fluently so I guess that may be a good advantage. But looking local I highly doubt, plus I did tell them that I'm from outa the country. Maybe you guys can try and bargain down to 150k for a HJ + BJ + touching. Also try and see if you can get them to do the job first and then give a price after, because I havnt been given a price before or after the job. I was just given a piece of paper and then I write down what I feel like giving them then I go out the front and pay. Give it a try, don't know if it'll work but what you got to loose? If enough people do this it might bring down the avg price.
Sex Apocolypse
01-24-09, 10:12
This is my 4th trip to Vietnam and I have found a really 'HOT' hot toc just outside Pham Ngu Lao area on Cong Quynh street. Its not as pretty and attractive on the outside as the HOT TOCS behind Ben Thanh Market but the service is much better. I have received FS in there several times for just 500, 000 VND and these are not 'vacuum cleaner looking' variety girls I am talking about. Very trustworthy, no rip offs and no shared room with other fellow mongers. I mostly see local vietnamese men going here. Not too many foreign men so maybe thats the secret.
Anyway, if you are new to Vietnam and want to know whats going on with the girl situation post me a message and we can go have a few beers. I will be here a few more weeks.
Asswrestler
01-29-09, 06:47
Anyway, if you are new to Vietnam and want to know whats going on with the girl situation post me a message and we can go have a few beers. I will be here a few more weeks.I'm here with a friend for a week before we continue our trip to Bangkok. We would like to grab a few beers and some tips on the girl situation.
Asswrestler
01-29-09, 09:41
This is my 4th trip to Vietnam and I have found a really 'HOT' hot toc just outside Pham Ngu Lao area on Cong Quynh street. Its not as pretty and attractive on the outside as the HOT TOCS behind Ben Thanh Market but the service is much better. I have received FS in there several times for just 500, 000 VND and these are not 'vacuum cleaner looking' variety girls I am talking about. Very trustworthy, no rip offs and no shared room with other fellow mongers. I mostly see local vietnamese men going here. Not too many foreign men so maybe thats the secret.
Anyway, if you are new to Vietnam and want to know whats going on with the girl situation post me a message and we can go have a few beers. I will be here a few more weeks.Hello,
We are two guys who just landed here in Saigon, would be great if you could point us in the right direction since we havent found much yet.
We are staying at the " Dong Khanh Hotel"
/R & A
Hello,
We are two guys who just landed here in Saigon, would be great if you could point us in the right direction since we havent found much yet.
We are staying at the " Dong Khanh Hotel"
/R & A
Get a map with an index so you can find the streets mentioned here. There are free ones at the Tourist Centre on Le Loi and you can buy them at newsagent/bookshops around Doing Khoi and Le Loi.
Took a look at your hotel location on Tran Hung Dao (extension of Le Loi) but deep into chinatown. If you feel energetic you could walk to the Phan Ngu Lao bar area or to Bui Vien area.
If you are staying there I am guessing that you might speak a little chinese (mandarin). If you do you might find that some places can understand a little.
There is a lot of construction work around Ham Tu street and I have seen a whole bunch of Hot Tocs along Nguyen Bieu near there but I was never able to stop because I was with clients etc.
There is a lot of information here so good luck.
I am going to HCMC next week and will be staying at Sofitel. This will be my first trip to HCMC and will be staying for a week plus. Please PM me nos so I can spend my week happily.
I am going to HCMC next week and will be staying at Sofitel. This will be my first trip to HCMC and will be staying for a week plus. Please PM me nos so I can spend my week happily.
If you check out the lobby bar in late afternoons/evenings you will often see ladies hanging about. They will want US$200 for ST. Most probably the hotel security will stop them going to your room so you will have to go with her to a high class establishment outside.
Just read the forum for more details.
Just wanted to confirm not a typo, that the girls at the bar/lobby charges ST for US $200?
Seems too pricey as I can get that at home in New York for about that price or less (no Viets at home/mostly Koreans though)
Shark
Just wanted to confirm not a typo, that the girls at the bar/lobby charges ST for US $200?
Seems too pricey as I can get that at home in New York for about that price or less (no Viets at home/mostly Koreans though)
Shark
It is expensive and that's why you do not go to Sofitel.
And as pre-caution I'm looking for a place to get reliable Viagra or Cialis here. No experience with the thing but must bang 3 girls and they are demanding.
And as pre-caution I'm looking for a place to get reliable Viagra or Cialis here. No experience with the thing but must bang 3 girls and they are demanding.
Most of the pharmacies - especially the smaller ones - will sell you genuine C for VND300k for 4 x 20 mg. Ask the pharmacist for tadalafil (chemical name). And check the seals on the box and the sleeves inside.
On Viagra and Cialis Subs. Adagrin, a Vietnamese brand is the same as Viagra and I have used it many times. It's available only in 50mg for about 40k Dong each. I use a half pill. It's made in Binh Duong or rather assembled and packaged there. Lovegra is the same but comes from the north of VN. Even better priced is Majegra from India. I have used it many times. It comes in 100mg form and usually costs 35k Dong. I have used both many times and they are exactly the same in strength, effects, etc as Viagra which is Sildenafil. Tadalafil is Cialis. Another brand of Cialis from VN is called C-Ales made by VPS Pharm. It comes in 20mg only and cost 75k Dong usually. It works exactly the same as Cialis. Just write it down for the pharmacist.
On Viagra and Cialis Subs. Adagrin, a Vietnamese brand isAdagrin.
You just gotta love that name! Add-A-Grin to you, and Add-A-Grin to her.
P.
On Viagra and Cialis Subs. Adagrin, a Vietnamese brand is the same as Viagra and I have used it many times. It's available only in 50mg for about 40k Dong each. I use a half pill. It's made in Binh Duong or rather assembled and packaged there. Lovegra is the same but comes from the north of VN. Even better priced is Majegra from India. I have used it many times. It comes in 100mg form and usually costs 35k Dong. I have used both many times and they are exactly the same in strength, effects, etc as Viagra which is Sildenafil. Tadalafil is Cialis. Another brand of Cialis from VN is called C-Ales made by VPS Pharm. It comes in 20mg only and cost 75k Dong usually. It works exactly the same as Cialis. Just write it down for the pharmacist.
Pretty much most of SE Asia (except Singapore and KL) if you use the generic names (Sildenafil, Taladafil) you will get offered both genuine and generics and you will have the added benefits of overcoming any language barrier and nobody in the shop knowing what you are asking for.
I prefer C because when I have used V (genuine or generic) it gives me a headache. Half a 20mg pill is good for 24 hrs. Could probably take a quarter or third but my teeth aren't that accurate!
Use a pill cutter! A little device that holds the pills and cuts accurately. I use a quarter of the 100mg Viagra because it minimizes the headache and face flushing and that's all I need. It works quickly and wears off quickly when you use that small amount. 25 mg is fine for me. I really only use it when I need to use condoms, bareback with a close friend is never a problem. Just the pause for the condom and the lube etc, the unfamiliar girl, etc, I need the extra boost. And I like to stop and start a lot too.
Think about this: I advise you NOT to buy 'real Viagra' here for the following reasons: First of all, the very inexpensive generics are widely available and are exactly the same (although Adagrin is too powdery when cut). Second, there is FAKE Viagra being sold. There are no fake generics. Why would anyone fake a generic selling for 35 to 50k when they could fake original V which sells for 300k? In fact, the fakers can buy the Sildenafil from the same source and use fake V packaging and sell it for 300k. It will seem real to the user, it IS real and will work fine. But it's the same as the 35 - 50k generic. Customers who buy the fake for 300k and are happy and say, no, no, it works is real. Yes, it does work. But it's just generic Sildenafil.
I will post some pics in my next post. I forgot to mention Inta-Gra. Also from India, about 50k for 100mg Sildenafil. It's lighter blue in color and very hard, good for cutting with a sharp blade.
I bought all these at a pharmacy on Nguyen Trai, near D5 intersection with Nguyen Van Cu, between that street and Nguyen Cu Trinh, forgot the name, I have been there many, many times. On the south side, big blue pharmacy sign on the street, prices all marked on box, nice people. It's near the Pham Ngu Lao, Bui Vien area too, about 2km. I just go there for convenience. It's a bit cheaper or the same at the many pharmacies on Hai Ba Trung near the Tan Dinh market.
Left to Right: Majegra 100 (35k per pill), Inta-gra 100 (50k per pill), C.ales 20 (75k per pill)
I bought all these at a pharmacy on Nguyen Trai, near D5 intersection with Nguyen Van Cu, between that street and Nguyen Cu Trinh, forgot the name, I have been there many, many times. On the south side, big blue pharmacy sign on the street, prices all marked on box, nice people. It's near the Pham Ngu Lao, Bui Vien area too, about 2km. I just go there for convenience. It's a bit cheaper or the same at the many pharmacies on Hai Ba Trung near the Tan Dinh market.
Left to Right: Majegra 100 (35k per pill), Inta-gra 100 (50k per pill), C.ales 20 (75k per pill)
Where do I buy a pill cutter? In Saigon?
Don't know about the Sildenafil coz I don't use it but I get real 'Lily" C from the small pharmacy on Mac Thi Boui (near non-GF Bach Dang hotel) for VND 300k for 4 x 20 mg. At that price why bother with generics?
At the prices you are getting the generic V for it makes sense.
Suds,
I think Medicare Pharmacies have pill cutters. Pharmacy chain with big purple signs, one on Tran Hung Dao and another on HBT. Some others too.
You are buying 'real' Lilly C for 75k/pill, the same as the VN Generics. The point is, I would guess, but don't know, that it's 'fake.' It's got the real medicine, it works fine, but the packaging is false. It's too cheap for real Lilly C. I don't know for sure, but that's what makes sense to me. Especially in that part of town where you bought it. Medicare sells it for something like $10/pill. Something to think about as I have not seen what you bought.
Where do I buy a pill cutter? In Saigon?
Don't know about the Sildenafil coz I don't use it but I get real 'Lily" C from the small pharmacy on Mac Thi Boui (near non-GF Bach Dang hotel) for VND 300k for 4 x 20 mg. At that price why bother with generics?
At the prices you are getting the generic V for it makes sense.You can buy a pill cutter, locally made (Cat Thuoc) at the Medicare on Xo Viet Nghe Tinh St, east side, before the DBP traffic circle. 12,000D
Joe Nailer
02-10-09, 14:12
Suds,
I think Medicare Pharmacies have pill cutters. Pharmacy chain with big purple signs, one on Tran Hung Dao and another on HBT. Some others too.
You are buying 'real' Lilly C for 75k/pill, the same as the VN Generics. The point is, I would guess, but don't know, that it's 'fake.' It's got the real medicine, it works fine, but the packaging is false. It's too cheap for real Lilly C. I don't know for sure, but that's what makes sense to me. Especially in that part of town where you bought it. Medicare sells it for something like $10/pill. Something to think about as I have not seen what you bought.
Johndao, I must congratulate you on your work for this forum; i.e your pictures and posts in the other thread.
I buy my "Vitamins" from a chemist at xxx DBP, D3. (for xxx, pls PM me)
Kamagra (Sindemfil generics) 4 x 100mg which I crush one and divide into 3 or 4 depending on the occasion.
MEGAFORT (Tadalafil generics) 2 x 20mg which I break into 2.
See pics below.
At this chemist, they also sell real Levitra and Cialis as well, but these are expensive. I was sceptical first for MEGAFORT but tried and had the same effect as Cialis/Apcalis.
I had to get a pill cutter in NZ!!! With this cutter, you can crush a pill. I reckon taking it in powder form should take effect more quickly. I crush them and wrap in very thin edable papers and carry them in my wallet (you never know when you need it) :)
Thanks for your kind words Joe. I just want to say a few things. I have lots and lots of pics of girls I have done here in HCMC the last few years. None are from bars or clubs, none can speak English. Only very rarely have given them any more than 200k Dong with 150k being normal, even 100K in some cases. I pay 50 to 80k more for a hotel room. 90% of girls let me take some pics of them and around 60% let me take all the pics and cam vid I want.
I like all ages, sizes and shapes. At the prices I pay, why not try them, I have little to lose.
I have had a hundred or more experiences in Hair Cut BJ places where pics are not allowed, and 10's more in Cafe Om places (not recently anymore, except once) where I sometimes get pic or two. I very rarely go to hotel massage places where you get one hour and a happy ending. I am almost always unsatisfied and appalled at what others before me have 'tipped.'
That brings me to the main point: money, or tipping. Tipping is just that, it's a tip. Not a fee, not a charge, but a tip. So that means it's whatever you want, any amount. Nobody can demand a tip of any kind, then it's not a tip, it's a fee. Body massage in Vietnam and some other Asian countries is just that, full body massage and for some men who want, a happy handing accomplished manually, just like the rest of the massage. It's not sex per se, but it is sexual relief or prostate relief. There is NO additional fee for this service, which is technically not even allowed by local law or hotel/MP policy. There is no fee of 200k or whatever. There is no charge of 200k or whatever. Girls don't 'demand' 200k or whatever. But they are not stupid. They have learned over time, that some men, particularly western men think that massage HJ is some kind of extra service for which the men must pay dearly and for the women to be richly rewarded. They don't ask, 'I massage left arm, how much you give me'? or I massa right leg, how much you give me'? Or now head massage, how much? Your dick and its relief is just part of the deal. So give them a tip for their time and effort. But don't negotiate a fee or charge, it's not necessary. 100k is always more than enough, for those who are insecure about fees.
Look, there are those here who think getting a CIM BJ furtively in an upstairs room of a HBT bar is a great deal, or who are happy giving a 200k tip for an under towel, quick, no feel her body HJ to a poverty stricken, uneducated young lass from the countryside because she grew up prettier than her cousin who labors in a factory 6 days a week for 1.4 million Dong a month. But you don't have to. I have incresed my CIM BJ tip from 50 to 60 then to 70, 80 and now 100k since 2005. Prices in HCMC have gone up accordingly and so have my tips. Sometimes I am annoyed by something and signal it with an 80k tip.
Joe, again, I am pleased in your faith in me for following my directions out to D7. It's an experience, not the greatest but it's cheap and can be fun and different. The best is if you find a real cutie and come back to her and then get a number and go to a hotel sometime. You just have to try these places out. Try some other places please, and let us know the deal. It takes roadwork. One final word, I wrote that I gave 20k for the coffee and 100k to the girl as I made her work real hard and long on a thick dick before cumming. I had originally intended less. I see no reason why Joe paid 150k. It just makes it higher for everyone in the future and in general. Next time Tom will go and give 200, and then Mike will go and give 250 and soon it will be like HBT with girls 'demanding' 500k.
With this in mind, I will continue to post details of peripheral places that I may never return to, or don't care if I return to. But my favorite places I will keep for myself as I don't want them ruined by price inflation.
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Joe Nailer
02-11-09, 15:42
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It's an experience, not the greatest but it's cheap and can be fun and different. The best is if you find a real cutie and come back to her and then get a number and go to a hotel sometime. You just have to try these places out.
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With this in mind, I will continue to post details of peripheral places that I may never return to, or don't care if I return to. But my favorite places I will keep for myself as I don't want them ruined by price inflation...
Johndao, I agree with you a 100% on the points you are making here. I dont want to dig into this more than necessary, but the reason why I gave this woman 150K was very simple. I only remembered that you paid 20K for a drink and 100K for the service. But I didnt remember exactly what service you received. I assumed you didnt get a BJ. Hence I thought additional 30K would be justified for a BJ. I agree that we must keep the tipping under control for Tom, Mike etc. I think this type of place is great; simple, quick and cheap.
To me the hobby of ours is like many other things that people do. It is the process of getting what you set out to achieve. Once you got there, it's somewhat an anticlimax. I enjoy this process, and of course the end result; some time good, some time bad.
Johndao, do you have your PM enabled?
Cheers
Sorry, the correct price for C.ales 20mg is 45k Dong, NOT 75K Dong as I reported earlier. This is Tadalifil, a Cialis generic. I buy it at Thien Thanh Nha Thuoc (drugstore) on Nguyen Trai St near the Nguyen Van Cu intersection. They also have Viagra generic Majegra 100mg from India for 35k Dong per pill.
Johndao, I agree with you a 100% on the points you are making here. I dont want to dig into this more than necessary, but the reason why I gave this woman 150K was very simple. I only remembered that you paid 20K for a drink and 100K for the service. But I didnt remember exactly what service you received. I assumed you didnt get a BJ. Hence I thought additional 30K would be justified for a BJ. I agree that we must keep the tipping under control for Tom, Mike etc. I think this type of place is great; simple, quick and cheap.Joe, Johndao, others..
I am travelling through Asia for next few weeks and going to be in Ho Chi Minh a few days in March.
I do no speak Vietnamese but would like to experience as much of the city and the women as possible.
Can you recomend some places where to hang out for drinks and possibly meet women who will go back to my hotel? with or other places to find some high quality women?
Any other travel tips and women tips are greatly appreciated!!
Thank you,
Fishing,
I have not been contributing here for long, but what you ask for is the purpose of this forum. Just read the posts, there are pages and pages of recent posts coving exactly the info you are looking for.
JD
PS: Caveat Emptor -- the closer you are to the Central Business and Tourist District, the more people you will encounter looking to RIP YOU OFF. Not violently, thankfully. There is a rather pathetic strip of bars along Hai Ba Trung Street with incredibly overpriced services and girls. This is where most tourists and short-term business visitors go to get ripped off.
You are buying 'real' Lilly C for 75k/pill, the same as the VN Generics. The point is, I would guess, but don't know, that it's 'fake.' It's got the real medicine, it works fine, but the packaging is false. It's too cheap for real Lilly C. I don't know for sure, but that's what makes sense to me. Especially in that part of town where you bought it. Medicare sells it for something like $10/pill. Something to think about as I have not seen what you bought.
Finally got some privacy to get some pics. The box in pic 1 is a bit squashed from my suitcase but still has the seals intact. I always make sure that the seal are intact.
Tried to get a clear pic through the packaging but could not. Each Pill is marked as C20 as indicated on the ukmedix site.
http://www.ukmedix.com/cialis/lilly-cialis.cfm
I have used the generics and found them to be equally as effective. In fact there was one brand from India where the pills were like an 8 and easily slit in half.
SE Asia Joe
02-18-09, 09:51
Finally got some privacy to get some pics. The box in pic 1 is a bit squashed from my suitcase but still has the seals intact. I always make sure that the seal are intact.
Tried to get a clear pic through the packaging but could not. Each Pill is marked as C20 as indicated on the ukmedix site.
http://www.ukmedix.com/cialis/lilly-cialis.cfm
I have used the generics and found them to be equally as effective. In fact there was one brand from India where the pills were like an 8 and easily slit in half.
Hope you don't mind - but I BELIEVE that the pills you bought are actually counterfeit Cialis pills and NOT the genuine, made by Lilly, Cialis.
Please see the accompanying foto I attach - which I've also posted on the shanghai boards BTW - which shows the difference between the REAL Cialis - that I buy through my doctor in Hong Kong (for HK$380 = +- US$48 for a box of 4x20 mg pills) and is on the lower left hand corner of the picture VS. the fake ones - which is on the upper left hand corner of the picture. Please note that all the other products in the picture are also counterfeit.
Please note the difference in the colour of the box - and how my counterfeit pill's box colour closely matches your box.
Also please note the different "logos" - the Genuine product has a hologram/3 dimensional effect tape whilst the counterfeit ones - yours and mine - instead has on the same space, the printed logo "Lilly icos."
Also, the "seal" you refer to on both ends of the boxes - the genuine ones are cellotape with a bi-colour rendering of the Cialis logo, whilst the counterfeit ones just has black rendering of a padlock.
I'm not sure about the Dong/US$ exchange rate so I don't know if you overpaid or not - but in China, we get these counterfeit 4x20 mg cailis for approx US$5.00 retail and $1.50 wholesale just FYI.
Like I said, I apologize if I'm butting in when its none of my concern and that I certainly am NOT trying to flame you or anything. Thank you
SEAJ
Hope you don't mind - but I BELIEVE that the pills you bought are actually counterfeit Cialis pills and NOT the genuine, made by Lilly, Cialis.
Please see the accompanying foto I attach - which I've also posted on the shanghai boards BTW - which shows the difference between the REAL Cialis - that I buy through my doctor in Hong Kong (for HK$380 = +- US$48 for a box of 4x20 mg pills) and is on the lower left hand corner of the picture VS. the fake ones - which is on the upper left hand corner of the picture. Please note that all the other products in the picture are also counterfeit.
Please note the difference in the colour of the box - and how my counterfeit pill's box colour closely matches your box.
Also please note the different "logos" - the Genuine product has a hologram/3 dimensional effect tape whilst the counterfeit ones - yours and mine - instead has on the same space, the printed logo "Lilly icos."
Also, the "seal" you refer to on both ends of the boxes - the genuine ones are cellotape with a bi-colour rendering of the Cialis logo, whilst the counterfeit ones just has black rendering of a padlock.
I'm not sure about the Dong/US$ exchange rate so I don't know if you overpaid or not - but in China, we get these counterfeit 4x20 mg cailis for approx US$5.00 retail and $1.50 wholesale just FYI.
Like I said, I apologize if I'm butting in when its none of my concern and that I certainly am NOT trying to flame you or anything. Thank you
SEAJ
I don't mind and don't really care because the stuff works and is at about the right price on the street. The same was true of generics that I got from pharmacies in Bangkok. We are all aware that a lot of stuff is copied in Asia and some of it is done very well.
But how do you know that your REAL stuff is real? With the Chinese lettering on the box? Although I agree with you about the different shade of green.
Pity that Lily Icos don't give more specific details at their site. We might have to get some from a legitimate pharmacy somewhere to know.
Overall I don't have a problem with generics anyway. Often in a legitimate pharmacy they will ask you whether you want the brand name or generic and as long as a knowleagable pharmacist is checking ingredients and I am checking as well I figure its probably OK. Is it at the point where a pharmacist might have to check the ingredients independently? I don't think so.
Anyway my stocks are getting low and I need to buy some generic online. Be interesting to see what arrives.
I see that there are separate threads for discussion of Viagra and Cialis but there is not a lot of activity. In fact much of the activity is from guys recommending on-line pharmacy sites where the prices are considerably higher than we are discussing. Caveat Emptor!
Yes, the thing to remember is whether or not the drug works. Whether it is posing as a real Lilly product or it is made under license by a local company, as long as it is Tadalafil, it will give you the lift you want. However, we don't want to pay a higher price for the generic posing as the real brand, when we can just buy the straight-up generic at a lower price. VPC (Vietnam) is a legitimate licensed pharmaceuticals producer that sells Tadalafil under the name C.ales. You can buy real Lilly Cialis at Medicare in VN for around $10usd/pill.
This is from the Phap Luat (Law) Newspaper
31 drugs that are permitted to be sold in Vietnam
31 loại thuốc được phép lưu hành
Lovegra (Sildenafil citrat 50 mg), Banago 10 (Tadalafil 20 mg), Banago 20 (Tadalafil 20 mg), Shinafil (Sildenafil citrat 50 mg), Shafil 20 mg, Adagrin, Megafort 20 mg, Pycalis 10, Pycalis 20, Donaton 10 mg, Donaton 20 mg, Evadam, Man-axcio 10 mg, Man-axcio 20 mg, Dailis 10, Dailis 20, Tadalafil Stada 20 mg, C.ales 20 mg, Kamagra 100 (Sildenafil 100 mg), Kamagra 100 (Sildenafil citrat 100 mg), Kamagra 50, Majegra 100, Medovigor, Viagra (Sildenafil 50 mg), Viagra ( Sildenafil 100 mg), Cialis 10 mg, Cialis 20 mg, Synalis 20, Levitra 10 mg, Levitra 20 mg, Levitra 5 mg.
SE Asia Joe
02-19-09, 06:13
I don't mind and don't really care because the stuff works and is at about the right price on the street. The same was true of generics that I got from pharmacies in Bangkok. We are all aware that a lot of stuff is copied in Asia and some of it is done very well.
But how do you know that your REAL stuff is real? With the Chinese lettering on the box? Although I agree with you about the different shade of green.
Pity that Lily Icos don't give more specific details at their site. We might have to get some from a legitimate pharmacy somewhere to know.
Overall I don't have a problem with generics anyway. Often in a legitimate pharmacy they will ask you whether you want the brand name or generic and as long as a knowleagable pharmacist is checking ingredients and I am checking as well I figure its probably OK. Is it at the point where a pharmacist might have to check the ingredients independently? I don't think so.
Anyway my stocks are getting low and I need to buy some generic online. Be interesting to see what arrives.
I see that there are separate threads for discussion of Viagra and Cialis but there is not a lot of activity. In fact much of the activity is from guys recommending on-line pharmacy sites where the prices are considerably higher than we are discussing. Caveat Emptor!
You're of course correct in pointing out that there is no way for us laymen to know if a product is genuine or not, but I do think that my doctor friend would know for sure (we buy in bulk together and he uses some of it himself!!!) and that he would be dealing directly with the official Lilly office in Hong Kong (but then again, howzabout a rogue employee switching the stuff etc etc??!!).
Interestingly, the counterfeit Cialis box itself actually "feels" more genuine as it includes RAISED lettering for the Ciallis name versus just a plainprinted box for the genuine one.
And even the hologram on the real stuff's box... well, my counterfeit Viagra box also has this hologram with "Pfizer" on it!!
And thus its ALL GOOD - just so long as it does the job - real, fake,generic, counterfeit - who cares!!
SEAJ
While we are on the subject with V and C, I just have a question for those who used them.
As I get older, my endurance has gone some where else also. My problem isn't getting it up, but rather wanting to get a second and third session throughout the night. Unlike the old days, I just get tired and wanting to sleep.
Do these pills help you stay energetic and horny also?
While we are on the subject with V and C, I just have a question for those who used them.
As I get older, my endurance has gone some where else also. My problem isn't getting it up, but rather wanting to get a second and third session throughout the night. Unlike the old days, I just get tired and wanting to sleep.
Do these pills help you stay energetic and horny also?Hell No! They don't. I am just a one shot guy now too. They sure don't make me energetic and they definitely don't make you horny either. You have to be both already. They just make your cock really hard and help it to stay that way during sexual excitement or activity. Especially convenient when using condoms. But I also feel they make it more difficult to ejaculate, they make your face flush and they make you tired afterward (maybe something else is making me tired).
If you want energy I'd suggest going to a gym for vigorous workouts on a regular basis, lifting weights, swimming, drinking less booze and sleeping more.
While we are on the subject with V and C, I just have a question for those who used them.
As I get older, my endurance has gone some where else also. My problem isn't getting it up, but rather wanting to get a second and third session throughout the night. Unlike the old days, I just get tired and wanting to sleep.
Do these pills help you stay energetic and horny also?
My experience is a bit different to JD. When I tried V (real and generic) I got the face flushing etc and the effect was done in a few hours.
With the C (again real and generic) I don't get the face flushing and the stuff lets me get it up quickly for about 24 hrs. Especially for a second and third in a night. Does not do anything to bring on or delay ejaculation. Especially helpful with industrial grade condoms. The only side effect that I notice is a bit more nasal muccus.
As JD says it does nothing to make you any more horny or energetic. That's up to you and the gal.
I have a question to pose to fellow mongers of HCMC as I think I am too close to it to make a good reason call. This is my situation and I would appreciate any views, comments or advice;
I travel to HCMC 3 to 4 times a year and have now established myself with a lady that is very well connected with girl friendly mini hotels and a very large selection of girls. I only have to give her a call and place an order and she picks me up on her bike and takes me to one of her hotels where there is an assortment of girls waiting for me to choose from. She then waits around to pay the girl (I never pay the girl). She then asks me for feedback on the girl so she can pass on to other clients in the future. We often then go to dinner together and we have become good friends and she always looks after me to make sure I don’t get ripped. Prior to this I would just pick up from where ever…bars, massage, markets and from the street. Guess I have got a little lazy but I have limited time so I like to get what I want as quickly as possible.
So I should just stay with the above system but I went into one of the bars in D1, got a cute girl, we went off to a hotel and all was OK (average). She gave me her number and asked me to phone each time I came back to HCM and we can hook up and cut the mamasan and bar out of the equation. Great idea and cheaper so that’s what I have been doing for the past year. Anyway my last trip was pretty weird with this lady….she bought me gifts, phoned and messaged me each day, took me to meet her friends and our sessions in the mini hotel went from average to mind blowing. She really turned it on and I would have to say was the best I have ever had in Vietnam. She would do anything…no rules all of a sudden and she looked as if she loved every minute of it instead of looking bored. She actually asked me to take pictures of her so I could remember her when I go back home.
So when I go home she keeps phoning me and texting me and now she says she is in love with me and can’t do anything but think about me day and night. She is waiting for me to return so she can be with me again. I go back in a few weeks.
So my problem as you can see is what the hell do I do???
I would normally give her the boot but as I mentioned the sessions with her are now mind blowing (I get excited just thinking about them) so I thought maybe just tell her I don’t want a relationship and it’s casual or nothing or disappear and never contact her again or just lead her on.
By the way I did ask why the sudden change in the bedroom and she (she speaks OK English) did say as a regular girl you try and give the least you can get away with for the money. Clients come and go all the time so just give as little as possible and you will still get your money. She also said if you give lots of rules or look as if you are not good at certain things then the session is quicker which means you can get back to the bar quickly. She said a smart girl if she likes the client will always offer her mobile number for the next time especially if she knows the guy is still going to be in HCM for a few more days.
Appreciate any comments guys.
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Joe Nailer
02-21-09, 18:48
Joe, Johndao, others..
...
I do no speak Vietnamese but would like to experience as much of the city and the women as possible.
Can you recomend some places where to hang out for drinks and possibly meet women who will go back to my hotel? with or other places to find some high quality women?
Any other travel tips and women tips are greatly appreciated!!
Thank you,
I suggest you do some reading on the VN threads to get some ideas. I know some of them are out of date, but at least will help you find out what's on offer. Anyway...
I know many MP places outside of D1, but in the centre, there are some hotels, 4, 5 star to 2, 3 star. some of which have MP facility. You can try these. These can be expensive. (old info: 100 to 160K to get in, old info: 150 to ??? for tip) These girls will try to get as much as possible from you like 500K for a HJ. this is rediculous. 200K is ok, 300K if you really feel she did well. You can even get away with 100K or 150K. Ones I tried in D1 in the past were Kim Do hotel on Nguyen Hue on the main thoroughfare, Lido at Liberty Hotel on Pham Ngu Lao, and Star Hotel, Nguyen Thi Minh Kai, D3, next to the park. These places are clean and well equipped. In a MP, you can only get a HJ and groping, but no hanky panky. Outside of these areas, there are many MPs catering for the locals. These are in general cheaper. Some are good, but dont expect good massage from these girls.
you can find FLs near the hotels. Or Taxi/Siclo/xe om drivers will ask you if you require a lady for a night. I have been approached but I never took it up so I dont know what the system is.
You can go to "Catwalk" (name check?) next to New World Hotel.
For more down to earth variety, you can find the street walkers in D5. But you need your own transport to inspect them. Another type is cafe om (Read Johndao's posts), but again you need your own transport. Because these operate like the "cum and go quick" basis. If you want a LT, then you may pop in some of HBT bars.
Alternatively, befriend with a xe om driver near your hotel. He will look after you for fees.
My guide line would be that for a MP you will not pay more than 350K (20USD) for a HJ. So you can come to your own conclusion for what is reasonable for a xe om driver for his service. Remember he also gets a cut from that place for taking you there.
Some time ago, I was just sitting on a bench in Le Duan Street, and was approached by a xe om driver. He took me to a place (just like an ordinary house in D5. I dont remember exactly where now) 2 fairly pretty girls started to massage my legs, removed my trousers and underwear and started to suck my dick. They suggest that I should pay 100USD. Funny thing was everytime they talked about money my dick went down, and then the girls had to see to my dick quick. When they got it up, they talk about money again, ... the dick went up and down like a yoyo. Eventually we settled for 25USD/15GBP (this was all I had in my wallet) Looking back now it was far far too much (I had no knowledge of these things before, and I thought 15 quid for this was cheap) Once the money issue was settled
the girl opened up (literally) for me to see and touch (dont expect this from MP girls) and was very friendly. So I was happy.
I have a question to pose to fellow mongers of HCMC as I think I am too close to it to make a good reason call. This is my situation and I would appreciate any views, comments or advice;
I travel to HCMC 3 to 4 times a year and have now established myself with a lady that is very well connected with girl friendly mini hotels and a very large selection of girls. I only have to give her a call and place an order and she picks me up on her bike and takes me to one of her hotels where there is an assortment of girls waiting for me to choose from. She then waits around to pay the girl (I never pay the girl). She then asks me for feedback on the girl so she can pass on to other clients in the future. We often then go to dinner together and we have become good friends and she always looks after me to make sure I don’t get ripped. Prior to this I would just pick up from where ever…bars, massage, markets and from the street. Guess I have got a little lazy but I have limited time so I like to get what I want as quickly as possible.
So I should just stay with the above system but I went into one of the bars in D1, got a cute girl, we went off to a hotel and all was OK (average). She gave me her number and asked me to phone each time I came back to HCM and we can hook up and cut the mamasan and bar out of the equation. Great idea and cheaper so that’s what I have been doing for the past year. Anyway my last trip was pretty weird with this lady….she bought me gifts, phoned and messaged me each day, took me to meet her friends and our sessions in the mini hotel went from average to mind blowing. She really turned it on and I would have to say was the best I have ever had in Vietnam. She would do anything…no rules all of a sudden and she looked as if she loved every minute of it instead of looking bored. She actually asked me to take pictures of her so I could remember her when I go back home.
So when I go home she keeps phoning me and texting me and now she says she is in love with me and can’t do anything but think about me day and night. She is waiting for me to return so she can be with me again. I go back in a few weeks.
So my problem as you can see is what the hell do I do???
I would normally give her the boot but as I mentioned the sessions with her are now mind blowing (I get excited just thinking about them) so I thought maybe just tell her I don’t want a relationship and it’s casual or nothing or disappear and never contact her again or just lead her on.
By the way I did ask why the sudden change in the bedroom and she (she speaks OK English) did say as a regular girl you try and give the least you can get away with for the money. Clients come and go all the time so just give as little as possible and you will still get your money. She also said if you give lots of rules or look as if you are not good at certain things then the session is quicker which means you can get back to the bar quickly. She said a smart girl if she likes the client will always offer her mobile number for the next time especially if she knows the guy is still going to be in HCM for a few more days.
Appreciate any comments guys.
Once they get too possessive you don't have much choice but to cut them off.
I stopped taking calls from one gal and then called her about 4 weeks later when I returned. I told her that all the calls and SMS were a hassle and an embarassment at my work. She got the message and backed off.
Others I have had to cut off.
Many of the newer gals in the D1 bars are not yet indoctrinated to the game and can behave quite differently when you deal with them on a private basis.
Viet 1: I think you probably pay very, very well and have gotten great treatment from both of these women you describe as a result, they want to ride your gravy train!
Thanks for your reply Johndao. And yes I guess I did pay well. Never over 1 million dong (and that included a trip on her bike to the hotel and the hotel cost) but I have no complaints I just don’t want a girl to lay claim to my every moment (I want to have any girl any night. Total freedom) and hence I will take the advice of one of the forum guys and just tell her straight up the way it is and she can take it or leave it.
Variety is the spice of life, is it not? . Not to mention the fun of choosing. And after 10: 30pm being on the streets in D1 gets you offers every 10 minutes from girls on the street and on scooters. The clubs situated around the Sheraton can be fun if you want to be able to choose from a group of willing girls and if you want to spend the first 10 minutes feeling each one of them prior to making your selection. If the price is to high just go to the next club. There are soooo many of them.
I do like to read Johndao’s posts as I like the variety and adventure he seems to capture which all adds to the excitement. It’s a little harder when you have no transport except for a taxi although if I knew an area to go to I would just get dropped there and do the rest on foot and then a taxi back again.
Info on any general areas of action would be appreciated and I can take it from there and just a plug for the latest pics on the photo gallery. AWESOME!
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Can anybody tell me where I can find or where they have recently seen either of the two following girls?
The first is Van (I don't have a picture) who often calls herself Vanessa. She is very early 20's, bubbly, friendly, great smile, great English. Slim girl, not tall, rather chubby cheeks, she wears glasses. She has a Mickey Mouse tattoo on her midriff, a tat on her shoulder (forgot what) and a Tiger Tat on her ankle. She could be seen around the CBD area of D1, Dong Khoi, Dong Du. Thanks for any help.
The second is Na (Nga), a real looker, spends 90% of her time and money on clothes, hair, makeup, etc. But a sweet girl. See two recent pictures attached. Thanks again for any help.
Joe Nailer
02-25-09, 16:18
I found this girl on the north side of Ng Chi Thanh. I said to her “are we going to a khach san (hotel)?” and sooner had I asked the price for the service than she (about 35yo) hopped on to my bike and told me to go. She was tall and full bodied. These street walkers are often quite old mid 30+ when you see them close but they look young from a distance. But I have encountered young ones before as well.
She directed me to a small hotel nearby. As usual, there were so many guys hanging around the hotel. What do they do? She took 50K VND off me and gave it to the hotel guy. The guy also asked me to give him my ID. I would say “fortunately” I did not bring any ID with me but just had a few 100K sand 50Ks cash in my pockets for the obvious reasons. Even if I had my ID on me, I would not show it.
So I was not allowed in. She took me to another hotel. There she took the same 50K off me and gave it to the hotel, but the hotel wanted another 50K. I had enough of this messing about. I blame the girl. She should have known better. I took her back to where I found her. Can you believe it. She wanted a 50K. No I didn’t give her any money.
Not discouraged by this, I continued to search for a FL. I found Thủy near a Chinese owned (I think) large department store in D5. She took me to a hotel quite far from the place she was standing. She gave the hotel her ID and off we went upstairs (you must take your shoes off first though) She was efficient and effective; a good BJ, good ball sucking and a FS. She is no GFE but this is just a “F**k n Go” business, which I wanted.
In summary
Provider: Thủy (tired looking 24yo)
Body: 3/5 (a few tatoos)
Face: 3/5
Demeanor: efficient but not pushy
Service offered: BBBJ, BL, FS(covered), multiple positions
Overall performance: 3/5
Damage: 250K all inclusive (she said 50K for hotel) Not sure this is the market price or not.
Do I repeat? : maybe
I found this girl on the north side of Ng Chi Thanh. I said to her "are we going to a khach san (hotel)? " and sooner had I asked the price for the service than she (about 35yo) hopped on to my bike and told me to go. She was tall and full bodied. These street walkers are often quite old mid 30+ when you see them close but they look young from a distance. But I have encountered young ones before as well.
She directed me to a small hotel nearby. As usual, there were so many guys hanging around the hotel. What do they do? She took 50K VND off me and gave it to the hotel guy. The guy also asked me to give him my ID. I would say "fortunately" I did not bring any ID with me but just had a few 100K sand 50Ks cash in my pockets for the obvious reasons. Even if I had my ID on me, I would not show it.Good job Joe. Let me just add that it is better if you scope out some hotels first to take them to. First of all, it's safer. Not that going to a place they choose is unsafe, but your choice is safer. Go in advance and ask if it's ok for you and a girl ST later and set price. Usually 50-70K. Second, rarely do these girls encounter foreigners taking them in that part of town. They don't know the hotel rules against foreigners and locals for the short time thing. It's not their fault, they don't know that you won't be allowed. Third, bring some ID to give the hotel. Almost all hotels require it. You can use your driver's License from home, even an old one. If it looks official like their ID cards and has your picture, they will take it 90% of the time, if they allow foreigners. Or just get something fake made next time in Bangkok. I had a great place on Ng Tri Phuong that I used many times and then suddenly they would not take me anymore. There are lots and lots of places on Su Van Hanh where you can go and also on Ngo Quyen. Le Hong Phong is a little out of the way but some places there too. The place on the side street opposite the Windsor Plaza entrance will always take you for 50k but it is really sleazy and dirty. Hey, where are the pics of Thuy? Girls in that area let me take all the pics I want 95% of the time.
Phantomtiger2
02-26-09, 01:01
. Or just get something fake made next time in Bangkok..
Don't really recommend this as a friend of mine did exactly this, buying a false ID card in BKK with his photo but not his name or country.
Everything was great except he was randomly stopped at customs (can't remember which Asian country--maybe HK?) and when the agents searched all his belongings and found his hidden fake ID, well you can guess he spent alot of time explaining and sweating why his passport said John Doe and his fake ID said William smith.
--just my thoughts from an unfortunate friend's experience.
PT
Joe Nailer
02-27-09, 16:23
... it is better if you scope out some hotels first to take them to. First of all, it's safer. ...
Second, ... They don't know the hotel rules against foreigners and locals for the short time thing...
Third, bring some ID to give the hotel....
...
The place on the side street opposite the Windsor Plaza entrance will always take you for 50k but it is really sleazy and dirty.
...
Hey, where are the pics of Thuy? Girls in that area let me take all the pics I want 95% of the time.
1/ I dont want to negotiate the ST price with hotels. I want a one-stop shop; i.e how they want to split the money is upto her and the hotel.
2/ This is true. With the first girl, and the second, and the hotels, I was probably the first foreigner.
3/ I will never show my ID. I dont trust them. The information can be used for many things.
Hotels by Windsor - I think the first girl took me to one of them. It wasnt sleazy but greedy.
Pics- I ve never done that, maybe in the future.;)
Sushi Turbo
03-02-09, 10:35
Like Parnellcat, I know the importance of having a Vietamese friend who is trustworthy and who will introduce you to some of the naughtier aspects of HCMC. I know a xe om driver. He's not exactly a pimp, but like most Vietnamese males who have grown up here he knows where the locals go to have to fun. He is very friendly and speaks both English and French. I trust him which is saying something since in my experience most xe om drivers will try to rip you off. I'd be willing to share his number. He'll take you to the hot toc and bia om places that the locals frequent. He'll bargain with the owner so that you won't be charged the tourist price. I usually pay him 50,000 VND each time which makes him very happy and which is well worth it since many of these places I would have been unable to find on my own. He has offered to take me down to the Mekong Delta where I understand there are numerous opportunities for FS for only 100,000 VND.Hi there,
I know this is old, but I will be in Saigon for up to 2 weeks tomorrow night. I was wondering if you could please share with me any contacts that might help me, and I would greatly appreciate that. Any other spots that you recommend? This will be my first time to Vietnam. I'm from California and with the economy the way it is, what better and cheaper offpeak time to travel.
Sushi Turbo
03-02-09, 11:15
Here are some reviews of places of note discussed in forum as well as general experience
252 Ly Thai To: I came in there with a few friends with a cavalier attitude, expecting 6-7s, or even 5-6s, instead what I find are 2-3s. The women are so old they are already dying their hair. I was very keen on getting some mind you, so I looked every single one at least a few times, and they kept on telling the 'youngest' girl to step up but the youngest was at least 30! The fee was 150,000 dong for entrance, and of course I left, thinking I probably wouldn't even let these women touch me if it was pro bono.
NY Saigon: It should be noted that the girls in these bars usually are interchangeable and they float to the other bars near the area if there isn't enough business. The girls here at NY Saigon were 4-5s. Very friendly and eager to please with the hand in the inner thigh deal. I got a beer, bought every girl a drink, but then ran off to Cali. Make sure you ask about minimum drinks purchased if you are set on taking a girl out.
Cali: The girls here are a hell of a lot better looking than the other bars in the area. I would give them 6-7 with one girl breaking the 7 barrier, but arrogant and not fun to talk to. The temporary mamisan is actually very friendly, forgot her name cause i was too busy getting the rub down from her too. The music is terrible, but the girls are very friendly and some are a little "too" eager to please.
Vien Dong: Massage place that is famous to the locals. The girls here are generally very nice and friendly, with the exception of one girl that I absolutely hated. If you have a girl that doesn't smile right off the bat, ask for another one IMMEDIATELY! There are lots of girls here, there is NO reason you should have to put up with that nonsense. I got the VIP room a few times as well as normal, these girls will do more than hj if they like you and given the right price. Take care of the door guy in the tan uniform, he will send you a beautiful one. I gave him 50,000 after I disliked my first girl and he sent me a stunner who let me do all sorts of things to her and was incredibly nice and funny. Girls range from 6-8, with rare occasional 9.
Volcano and Liquid: I didn't know it but these girls, no matter how sluttily dressed, are not necessarily pros. I'd say they're mostly semi-pros or have very bad fashion sense, but they all got sugar daddies up the wazoo. Luckily, we ran into a really cool dude who introduced us to almost 10 of the girls there (score: 7-9s, mostly 8s). All of them, extremely friendly, but if you want to get to know them, I'd avoid the direct approach unless you're good looking, young, got friends just in case of trouble, and got money.... Just make it easy on yourself, take care of the alpha male of the group, and the whole cupboard will open to you.
Xe Om: So this is the rundown with a lot of these guys, some of them drive girls around all over Pham Ngu Lao. I see the same dudes and girls all the time. They are independent. Then there are the xe oms that get their girls from the local mafia representative. These girls are usually overpriced, as they got 3 chains of fees to go through. But if you like the girl, get their phone number. You can replace a girl if you do not like them. In my opinion the girls that cost $50 and $100 are exactly the same, minus the nicer clothes. I can always tell how long a girl has been doing the biz by how nice her clothes are. The Xe Om guys at the corner of Pham Ngu Lao and De Tham as well as the ones near Cyclo bar are pretty knowledgeable and have connections - but don't let them take you to 252 Ly Thai To!!!! Ask them for 'boom boom' if you are interested.
(Hot Toc: My) on Le Lai: The girls are 5-6s. You have to ask for the private room, where you negotiate what you want to do. The girls are in cute little polka dot dresses. The girl I got was cute, but not talkative, so I didn't want anything.
I've been to others, but the other good places are not in plain sight I can't list them all. The Bia Om places and the "Restaurants" in D1 are a plenty and they have 6-7s that will cater to your whim after you purchase a certain amount of food from the establishment. Just make sure that you negotiate with the girl as well as the mamisan or manager so there is no confusion as to what service you want.
If you want some more info or phone numbers of reliable people I've found in my adventures, you can PM me and I'd be happy to tell you more.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Hi there,
I was trying to PM you about your above post from a year ago, but it said that you do not allow PMs anymore. I will be traveling to Saigon tomorrow night from California! I was wondering if there were any contacts and number that you could help supply me with to help me out on this trip. If you could, could you please PM me on it or post back. I would greatly appreciate any help.
Thanks a lot!
Tom Strander
03-06-09, 11:19
I usually don't spend a whole lot of time looking around for the best action so I had been going to a massage place with some relatively hot girls. Too expensive though. Anyway, about a month ago I got tired of paying too much and experimented with the hair wash girls on DBL. WOW, that was so much better than the massage places! Was able to finger the girl and had a relaxed BJ with CIM. But not knowing any better the girl kept holding up 7 fingers after the deed was done. I thought she wanted me to pay her 700 so I kept saying NO and then I proceeded to give her 200k. She warmly accepted the money and said thanks very appreciatively. So now I'm guessing she was only looking for 70k (same as the entrance fee) and I over tipped. Right? Well after reading through the forum I won't tip that much again at a hair place. So now here is my question. Should I be tipping 50k, 70k, 100k or the entrance fee amount at the hair places? I hear all sorts of numbers but I want to hear from someone who knows what the actual going rate is. I don't want to up the prices for everyone else but at the same time I want decent service when I return for my next hair wash.
Also, I'd like to thank Johndao for all his input. I've learned a lot.
I usually don't spend a whole lot of time looking around for the best action so I had been going to a massage place with some relatively hot girls. Too expensive though. Anyway, about a month ago I got tired of paying too much and experimented with the hair wash girls on DBL. WOW, that was so much better than the massage places! Was able to finger the girl and had a relaxed BJ with CIM. But not knowing any better the girl kept holding up 7 fingers after the deed was done. I thought she wanted me to pay her 700 so I kept saying NO and then I proceeded to give her 200k. She warmly accepted the money and said thanks very appreciatively. So now I'm guessing she was only looking for 70k (same as the entrance fee) and I over tipped. Right? Well after reading through the forum I won't tip that much again at a hair place. So now here is my question. Should I be tipping 50k, 70k, 100k or the entrance fee amount at the hair places? I hear all sorts of numbers but I want to hear from someone who knows what the actual going rate is. I don't want to up the prices for everyone else but at the same time I want decent service when I return for my next hair wash.
Also, I'd like to thank Johndao for all his input. I've learned a lot.
Dinh Bo Linh is quite a long street. Got any more detail? One shop or several?
Tom Strander
03-07-09, 11:55
It is that stretch where all the girls are visible from outside the shops. I'm just looking for a decent tip amount. I don't want to short the girls but I don't want to overpay like most foreigners do.
I usually don't spend a whole lot of time looking around for the best action so I had been going to a massage place with some relatively hot girls. Too expensive though. Anyway, about a month ago I got tired of paying too much and experimented with the hair wash girls on DBL. WOW, that was so much better than the massage places! Was able to finger the girl and had a relaxed BJ with CIM. But not knowing any better the girl kept holding up 7 fingers after the deed was done. I thought she wanted me to pay her 700 so I kept saying NO and then I proceeded to give her 200k. She warmly accepted the money and said thanks very appreciatively. So now I'm guessing she was only looking for 70k (same as the entrance fee) and I over tipped. Right? Well after reading through the forum I won't tip that much again at a hair place. So now here is my question. Should I be tipping 50k, 70k, 100k or the entrance fee amount at the hair places? I hear all sorts of numbers but I want to hear from someone who knows what the actual going rate is. I don't want to up the prices for everyone else but at the same time I want decent service when I return for my next hair wash.
Also, I'd like to thank Johndao for all his input. I've learned a lot.Thanks Tom. To answer your question, 100k is a fine tip for BBBJ with CIM at one of these palces. That's all that's needed or expected here. You could get away with equaling the house charge of 60 or 70 or 80k, whatever the places charges. I'd do that if I was unhappy with the girl, like no CIM or a tip-bobbing, spit after 3 bobs type. But these places usually dump those girls pretty quick, so 100k is a fine tip and nobody will be sincerely unhappy with that, although you may come across some whiners/fakers who pretend they are being cheated because the guy looks easy.
Short answer: 100k tip ONLY
Also, as others have mentioned, it would be helpful if you would give better directions to a shop or shops you have used. I don't usually go to DBL because 1) it is far from home 2) it's a one way street, so difficult to cruise back and forth to find a place 3) quite a number of shops are HJ only and it's difficult to determine the BJ from HJ only shops without a lot of trial and error or simply asking up front.
I'd be willing to check one out that does BJ for sure if you give better directions.
Short answer: 100k tip ONLY
Also, as others have mentioned, it would be helpful if you would give better directions to a shop or shops you have used. I don't usually go to DBL because 1) it is far from home 2) it's a one way street, so difficult to cruise back and forth to find a place 3) quite a number of shops are HJ only and it's difficult to determine the BJ from HJ only shops without a lot of trial and error or simply asking up front.
I'd be willing to check one out that does BJ for sure if you give better directions.Hi johndao,
Can you please give me a cross street to the hop toc place you are referring to here?
Thanks in advance!
Tom Strander
03-09-09, 17:02
So the stretch of DBL I'm referring to is the area with all the visible girls in the hair shops near where DBL intersects with Bach Dang street. To get to the shop I was referring to earlier, if you start out at the intersection of DBL and Nguyen Xi and drive toward Bach Dang, you don't need to go very far, it's one of the first shops you'll see. Just after the first stop light (I think it is the first). It is across the street from a large (though a little hidden) coffee shop. By the way, if you go in the evening, I suggest you visit that coffee shop across the street when you've finished. It's lit up with green lights out in front. All open air with trees and man-made lakes, streams and a few fountains. Anyway I find it relaxing - I get the rum sec and coke - they don't really have any other alcohol to choose from.
Oh and a word of warning. I just visited that place again yesterday and didn't see the girl from before. I chose another girl that was decent looking but did not receive the CIM - I was a very disappointed because I had been expecting it. I was surprised though that the girl didn't ask for any tip upstairs, instead when I reached for my wallet she just waved me to go downstairs. I wondered if she could see how disappointed I was and wasn't expecting much. When I handed the front desk 150k they wrote down 70k on a piece of paper as if I had given them too much. I paid 150k at the desk (70 to the house 80 to her) and she was very appreciative. I think I'll check out one of the other places next time along that same stretch of DBL later this week.
BTW, I looked for the BJ places you talked about along DBP (I assume Dien Bien Pho) but didn't see any obvious hair wash places except one that another member had mentioned but it looked very dumpy so I didn't expect any cute Vietnamese girls inside (maybe my assumption was wrong). Can you give me a number or intersection?
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Tom Strander
03-09-09, 17:09
Oh, one more thing. If a Hot Toc place does HJ only, what kind of compensation is expected? 50k?
btw, i looked for the bj places you talked about along dbp (i assume dien bien pho) but didn't see any obvious hair wash places except one that another member had mentioned but it looked very dumpy so i didn't expect any cute vietnamese girls inside (maybe my assumption was wrong). can you give me a number or intersection?
oh, one more thing. if a hot toc place does hj only, what kind of compensation is expected? 50k?yes, the places on dbp are pretty dumpy and i think most would not appreciate them, correct on no cute girls inside. well, maybe sometimes, but unlikely. dbl is a much better choice, more shops, more girls.
about the tip question above, it's hard to answer. the answer is really that the tip is usually the same for hj or bj, that's why i prefer bj shops. it's not necessarily considered a higher level service by some. often hj places are cleaner and more regulated, with some kind of real massage as well, as in hotel mp or therapeutic health massage, ended with hj. it's not sex, it's relaxation, prostate relief, or whatever. many stunners work in hj only places. they feel safer and cleaner and with almost no risk of disease. they don't think of themselves as sex workers. they may be looking to meet men for much more profitable outside liaisons. they look down on those in bj shops as dirty. but they still expect 100k for their looks, time and service.
i went to a cafe om on phan van tri recently, numer 379. there were two girls working. a tall, pretty, flat-faced girl and a very cute young 18-year-old. the 18 yo was so pretty and wearing lots of makeup for that kind of place. real dirty place. she had her hair up in two round bunches at the top of her head. and she was wearing this funny shiny dark pink outfit, never seen anything like it in vn before. i wanted her in the back but she said she only does does hj, she's new, she doesn't know how to give bj. so i said it was ok, i would teach her to do it. she could do it with her hand but also her tongue and mouth a bit and i would show her what to do. so cute! she and the other girl discussed it and decided against. so i went for some great bj and affection with the other girl who was really wonderful as well. 100k including coffee, all done.
jd
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A little bit of news to brighten our days and nights.
Google Maps now has some decent maps of the streets of Saigon - they seem to extend with some detail past Phu My Hung in the south and up to the Dong Nai bridge.
If you have a street name then searchinf pretty easy and seems to be quite accurate. But if you only have abbreviations like DBG you will still need a street map with an index to figure it out.
Most of the Saigon street name abbreviations I have read used here on the Forum are:
DBP = Dien Bien Phu
DBL = Dinh Bo Linh
HBT = Hai Ba Trung
NPK = Nguyen Phi Khanh
NTMK = Nguyen Thi Minh Khai
XVNT = Xo Viet Nghe Tinh
DK = Dong Khoi
NKKN = Nam Ky Khoi Nghia
PMH = Phu My Hung (This is an area in District 7, not a street)
Any others, just ask me. Yes, the Google Maps are great, I tried them. There are pictures as well if you turn on that feature.
JD
Tom Strander
03-13-09, 08:24
Thanks JD, the list of abbreviations is helpful.
Regarding google maps, that really is helpful - I remember trying to look up addresses about a year ago with no luck - happy to hear they've updated their system.
Just an FYI, there are two other good websites for maps and directions here in VN. They are 1650km.com and diadiem.com. I believe diadiem is most popular with the local people. They're both in Vietnamese only but it's not too difficult to figure out how to use them. Though I guess this information may not be all that useful now that google has updated their maps.
I don't think I've ever seen a woman in HCMC dressed like this on the street in D1 in the middle of the afternoon before.
I don't think I've ever seen a woman in HCMC dressed like this on the street in D1 in the middle of the afternoon before.
I can think of two possible explanations. One she is a model going to so promotion or other. Two she has just finished an all-night trick with that guys.
But you are right - even the sluttiest gals dress for the street more demurely than that.
that girl is "viet kieu" I don't think they make that kind of fabric here. There are shorts that short but not in that design or fabric. Nice legs!
I will be arriving in HCMC this week, and staying in district 1. Street is Le Thanh Ton.
Any locals know any interesting places around this area?
I will also be in Nha Trang for a couple of days.
Likewise, any interesting places to visit?
Joe Nailer
03-16-09, 12:59
that girl is "viet kieu" I don't think they make that kind of fabric here. There are shorts that short but not in that design or fabric. Nice legs!
But shame about her handbag!
But shame about her handbag!Even Vietnamese who are not Viet Kieu can buy goods not manufactured in Vietnam. All the big department stores sell imported brands and Vietnamese often travel to other countries such as Singapore for shopping.
The other possibility is that she is not Vietnamese. Surely not a model, she is older than her body looks and not that attractive, but surely very sexy. Yes, now I know, a Vietnamese would NOT be drinking a cup of coffee while walking.
BTW, has anybody been on the Tiger Airways flights to Singapore? It is like the wh*ore express. If you go to the Singapore thread it is full of guy's experiences with Viet gals at Ipanema and Orchard Towers. Take that Tiger flight and there are literally tens of them all dolled up with big makeup cases and little luggage. Sweet deal for them if they can speak E. Hole up in a cheap room together, hit the bars every night for a few days, earn way more than they would in VN without turning most of it over to someone else, cheap flights, easy money, easy.
Hey, anyone can drop me a line if they like.
JD
Vietnamese girls are very stylist, comparable to European women. That girl is a very typical American. When they try to be stylist, it comes out whorist. I know many of them coming to Vietnam expecting to see sarongs and slanted eyes, find out that the Viet girls are out-dressed, out-smart, and out-beauty them all. When I see Viet girls in the traditional ao dai, I melt. I think the sight is the eighth wonder of the world.
When I see Viet girls in the traditional ao dai, I melt. I think the sight is the eighth wonder of the world.
You mean like this? This a gal who works at duty free at the airport - meeting her first time for drinks tonight.
I think that the Ao Dai is the only thing that makes Vietnam Airlines tolerable.
You mean like this? This a gal who works at duty free at the airport - meeting her first time for drinks tonight.
I think that the Ao Dai is the only thing that makes Vietnam Airlines tolerable.Yes, Ao Dai are sexy. In the north they are so thin, see-thru even. Less skin showing than in Saigon, but more see-thru. Let us know how your date goes.- details please! She's a cutie.
JD
OH YEAH BABY!!
That is exactly what I am talking about. Sometimes I just sit in one of the sidewalk coffee shops in Dist 1 and watch them walking to lunch or such, never get tired of it.
Even the occasion Koreans or Japanese tried to put on the same dress, they might be as thin and fit as the Viet girls, but the whole world of difference. Only the Viet girls can perform justice.
I think they copied the Chinese Cheongsam many moons ago but with a touch of genius, turned it into something much more classy and elegant.
Thanks Sudsoz, I am jealous!
The gal in the pics was a gal from tagged and whilst it was the same girl the photos of her in the ao dai were extremely flattering. Basically she had a very big ass and a very big mouth because she was always talking. I lost interest very quickly.
This is a gal from Saigon/Vung Tau in one of those translucent ao dai that JD was talking about. The one standing is her sister who is married to an oil rig worker and lives in Vung Tau. Sorry guys this one is private.
Columpuss' musings about gals in ao dai got me going as well. Sitting at a sidewalk coffee shop on Dong Khoi and taking pictures of the pretty ones as they walk past can be very rewarding.
One of my unachieved aims is to have one of the massage sales gals on Dong Khoi - I have had a couple that were likelies but circumstances (or other gals) got in the way.
And of course the Hot Chili bar on Dong Do has very pretty gals in ao dai. This place is a travel agent by day. The gals are very demure and there is no takeout but after or before work it is ''up to you''. (love that phrase)
And finally there is NY Saigon (opposite Chili Bar) where the gals used to wear ao dai but now many of them wear other long dresses. These gals are available to take-out.
And of course the Hot Chili bar on Dong Do has very pretty gals in ao dai. This place is a travel agent by day. The gals are very demure and there is no takeout but after or before work it is ''up to you''. (love that phrase) Hey Suds,
Where is Dong Do? I'll check it out if I can find it. Not on my map.
JD
Trick Or Treat
03-19-09, 04:23
Hey Suds,
Where is Dong Do? I'll check it out if I can find it. Not on my map.
JDI think Suds meant "Dong Du". Chilli is at #11 (or 21?)
Matnorkushairi
03-19-09, 14:14
Xin chao
All senior bro. Esp JD
Need yr favour to find a girl around Sheraton Saigon (SS)
There is no way to bring girl go inside SS?
Cam on. Thanks
Note: PM me some contact lo.
Hey Suds,
Where is Dong Do? I'll check it out if I can find it. Not on my map.
JD
Dong Du or Dong Do seem to be interchangeable - same street as Sheraton.
New bar next to Chili seems to have same old personnel from Cali Bar.
Phantomtiger2
03-21-09, 02:41
Hi Johndao,
Tried to PM you with this but you cant receive messages.
I've flown with Tigerair several times before on other routes (mainly between Sgn and Thailand-my 2 main monger destinations) but its not that big a deal in terms of trying to land the ladies. Most of them are in between travels (meaning going or coming home) and not really interested in P4P while on the flights.. If you smile at them they will smile back but thats mostly it (consider them off-duty) so dont expect that much but occasion luck could be on the table for some.
Cheers
PT
Well, just been back a week from 4 weeks in HCMC. Went with my wife and daughter so it was a little hard to get away from family, but I managed a few hours to myself by taking a walk for a few hours during the day. I hang out in Quan 10 when here, so a different area than the rest of you up in Quan 1. I did find a few spots that motogirls frequent and you can get most of them for 200K or less for a couple hours in a local hotel that will probably run around $10 USD. Here's the areas to look at if your in the neighborhood. Cross streets of Su Van Hanh X Hung Vuong X Nguyen Chi Thanh, it makes a little triangle. This is a little park and just hang out there or walk around the street, the girls will stop for you, at least 2-3 an hour and most are 6-8 in appearance and around 22-30 y.o. Just pick and choose. I had 3 different girls there ranging from 19 to 24 y.o. There's a resturant across the street on Nguyen Chi Thanh where you can get something to eat and drink if you get tired of waiting there.
My brother-in-law took me out for some beer and a massage in Quan 3. The massage, steam room, shower was 100K, happy ending by a 22 y.o. 80lb cutie that actually gave a very decent massage was another 200k tip. Normally 100K, but I'm a white guy so got stuck with a raised rate. The place is called Le Duyen and it's on Le Van Sy, but I can't remember the nearest cross street. A taxi guy might know where it is. I found google earth has the best maps of Saigon and you can see online a satellite view too. There were a couple of Hot Toc with massage and some very cute girls on Su Van Hanh near 3 thang 2 street but alas I didn't get to sample.
Happy hunting guys.
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Billy so you were able to get a happy ending at Le Duyen massage? There are a few Le Duyen massage places in Ho Chi Minh and I have never been able to get anything further than touching legs and arms with the girls there? How were you able to get so far at that certain massage place? Anyone else have experience with Le Duyen before? Can you really do other stuff there?..hehe...I went to Le Duyen 4 alot in District 1 and when I left I saw a customer pay 3.5 million dong so I wonder what special services he got...hehe...any input from you guys would be helpful cause some of the girls there are hot and I would love to move on them further...hehe
Well, just been back a week from 4 weeks in HCMC. Went with my wife and daughter so it was a little hard to get away from family, but I managed a few hours to myself by taking a walk for a few hours during the day. I hang out in Quan 10 when here, so a different area than the rest of you up in Quan 1. I did find a few spots that motogirls frequent and you can get most of them for 200K or less for a couple hours in a local hotel that will probably run around $10 USD. Here's the areas to look at if your in the neighborhood. Cross streets of Su Van Hanh X Hung Vuong X Nguyen Chi Thanh, it makes a little triangle. This is a little park and just hang out there or walk around the street, the girls will stop for you, at least 2-3 an hour and most are 6-8 in appearance and around 22-30 y.o. Just pick and choose. I had 3 different girls there ranging from 19 to 24 y.o. There's a resturant across the street on Nguyen Chi Thanh where you can get something to eat and drink if you get tired of waiting there.
My brother-in-law took me out for some beer and a massage in Quan 3. The massage, steam room, shower was 100K, happy ending by a 22 y.o. 80lb cutie that actually gave a very decent massage was another 200k tip. Normally 100K, but I'm a white guy so got stuck with a raised rate. The place is called Le Duyen and it's on Le Van Sy, but I can't remember the nearest cross street. A taxi guy might know where it is. I found google earth has the best maps of Saigon and you can see online a satellite view too. There were a couple of Hot Toc with massage and some very cute girls on Su Van Hanh near 3 thang 2 street but alas I didn't get to sample.
Happy hunting guys.
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I doubt that it is at LD. Unless the girl broke the rule. These places offer legitimate services and almost never venture down that road. Women also go there for these services. I want to spare the mongers some embarrassing moments when there.
Billy so you were able to get a happy ending at Le Duyen massage? There are a few Le Duyen massage places in Ho Chi Minh and I have never been able to get anything further than touching legs and arms with the girls there? How were you able to get so far at that certain massage place? Anyone else have experience with Le Duyen before? Can you really do other stuff there?..hehe...I went to Le Duyen 4 alot in District 1 and when I left I saw a customer pay 3.5 million dong so I wonder what special services he got...hehe...any input from you guys would be helpful cause some of the girls there are hot and I would love to move on them further...hehe
The place that Billy went too is an actual massage parlor on Le Van Sy. It's in Phu Nhuan District on the way to the airport. The LE Duyen you guys are thinking of is a haircut (hot toc) place. These places do not give happy endings.
Just wondering for a long time already about the girls hanging around the T crossing Nam Ky Khoi and the small Tu Xuong. Whenever I leave office I can see a few very attrractive girls on the street no matter what time. Somewhat I get a feeling they are there on purpose but couldn't figure out whether they just work in the school nearby or if they might be pros? Anyone any idea?
Thx
And happy hunting
BTW, has anybody been on the Tiger Airways flights to Singapore? It is like the wh*ore express. If you go to the Singapore thread it is full of guy's experiences with Viet gals at Ipanema and Orchard Towers..... Sweet deal for them if they can speak E. Hole up in a cheap room together, hit the bars every night for a few days, earn way more than they would in VN without turning most of it over to someone else, cheap flights, easy money, easy.Yep spot on. I've known a girl since she was 18 (about 10 years now)! Nasty start when her mother sold her cherry to a rich customer of a restaurant where she was a 17 year old waitress. Then to Apocalypse. Not a word of English. Then freelance out of 32. 5 bar (Who remembers that? It's where KFC is now, corner of HBT and Cao Ba Quat). Then mamasan of a bia om. About 5 years ago started regular trips to Singapore. Just as you say, shared hotel room, Orchard Towers etc. Even had a silver card with Singapore Airlines for a while before switching to Tiger. English a little better now but pretty crap.
She doesn't "work" in VN anymore. Just fed up with all the hassles. Both from hotels, crummy backpackers and blokes that thinks it should be cheap in VN. Works in Singapore for a bit, then returns to Saigon and hangs around 'till she gets bored. Has a couple of regulars from the old days. Doesn't take money off them, so she says (probably they give her something). I suppose the clocks ticking for her. But she seems pretty sensible and is saving for the future.
Hey guys how much do these girls charge in Singapore compared to vn. I am just curious because I was thinking about going to Singapore soon. Thanks again.
As for Le Duyen thanks for the info guys it would have been quite embarrassing if I asked them for a happy ending when they didnt offer it. But I did see a guy pay 3.5 million dong for services and no service there is that much....so I wonder what special service did he get.
Yep spot on. I've known a girl since she was 18 (about 10 years now)! Nasty start when her mother sold her cherry to a rich customer of a restaurant where she was a 17 year old waitress. Then to Apocalypse. Not a word of English. Then freelance out of 32. 5 bar (Who remembers that? It's where KFC is now, corner of HBT and Cao Ba Quat). Then mamasan of a bia om. About 5 years ago started regular trips to Singapore. Just as you say, shared hotel room, Orchard Towers etc. Even had a silver card with Singapore Airlines for a while before switching to Tiger. English a little better now but pretty crap.
She doesn't "work" in VN anymore. Just fed up with all the hassles. Both from hotels, crummy backpackers and blokes that thinks it should be cheap in VN. Works in Singapore for a bit, then returns to Saigon and hangs around 'till she gets bored. Has a couple of regulars from the old days. Doesn't take money off them, so she says (probably they give her something). I suppose the clocks ticking for her. But she seems pretty sensible and is saving for the future.
Hey guys how much do these girls charge in Singapore compared to vn. I am just curious because I was thinking about going to Singapore soon. Thanks again.
There are quite a few freelancers who operate out of Apocalypse in Saigon and Orchard Tower (mostly Ipanema) in Singapore.
Going rate out of Apocalypse is about US$60-80 (say VND1.2 mil or S$120) whereas their asking rate at Ipanema is about twice that although the recession is hitting and they are accepting S$200 or less.
Be aware that these are gals who have seen some money pass through their hands and have the tattoos, the jewelry and the attitude to show for it. Quite different to a regular Saigon girl or one who has recently come from the provinces to work in one of the bars there.
Ajashi, the corner you mentioned in Q 3 is a well known spot, I've taken a few from various parts of Tu Xuong st at night. Usually 200k for a no frills pop. The cops hang around there a bit so they often move to different parts of the st or onto side sts. As you say they're there all the time, at least at night.
There are quite a few freelancers who operate out of Apocalypse in Saigon and Orchard Tower (mostly Ipanema) in Singapore.
Going rate out of Apocalypse is about US$60-80 (say VND1.2 mil or S$120) whereas their asking rate at Ipanema is about twice that although the recession is hitting and they are accepting S$200 or less.
Be aware that these are gals who have seen some money pass through their hands and have the tattoos, the jewelry and the attitude to show for it. Quite different to a regular Saigon girl or one who has recently come from the provinces to work in one of the bars there.Absolutely true, 3years ago you could see 90% of the girls in OT and mainly Ipanema being Fils, it changed to Thais with a few quite nice VN ladies a year later which alreday came with a bit of an attitude (nothing new) and last year there started teh VN invasion which resulted in at least Ipanema being in VN hands now. Was startled first as I was not sure anymore if I can still distinguish them but of course just by the frequency and noice of their chatter you soon now there is not much room left for the occassional visits of other nationalities. The Fils were at that time mostly dressed decently, tight Jeans where the Thais got a bit more open with VN's making the place look like a *****house (ok not only them, but you can see the development) and definetly they don't hide or are hesitant to tell you what business they do and they are typically not interested in more than a plain fuck and out "hey honey ST 300 ok ;-)" never paid more than 150 S$ (1.5Mio) usual 100 and never ever go with any girl giving me the ST question - that's the killer, whereas they typically escape early morning so they won't be seen in their hooker dresses.
happy hunting
Be aware that these are gals who have seen some money pass through their hands and have the tattoos, the jewelry and the attitude to show for it. In the case of my friend a boob job. A jolly expensive one too - done in Singapore. I'm no fan of these things - but I can see now you get what you pay for. It might have had me fooled had I not known her "before".
Just wondering for a long time already about the girls hanging around the T crossing Nam Ky Khoi and the small Tu Xuong. Whenever I leave office I can see a few very attrractive girls on the street no matter what time. Somewhat I get a feeling they are there on purpose but couldn't figure out whether they just work in the school nearby or if they might be pros? Anyone any idea? Tu Xuong near NKKN and on to Le Quy Don is a long-time hangout for streetwalkers, some of them very small and cute. I have only seen them there at night, fairly late, maybe after 9pm or so. You mention that you see them at all times of day and I don't know about that. There are high schools nearby and lots of kids walking around in the daytime. The girls standing around and squatting in the shadows at night will go to a short-time hotel with you for an hour for 150-200k.
Please take their pictures and post them.
JD
I went to Le Duyen 4 alot in District 1 and when I left I saw a customer pay 3.5 million dong so I wonder what special services he got...hehe...any input from you guys would be helpful cause some of the girls there are hot and I would love to move on them further...hehePossibilities: A) He might be a regular who brings numerous clients there to talk and relax and was paying a tab. B) He might have bought a phone for a girl. Girls who work there are not prostitutes per se, but certainly want to use the opportunity of working there to become something like a 'playgirl', receiving gifts from wealthy customers and 'making friends' and accepting gifts from them. Some Viet guys with lots of time and lots of cash (cadres) will attempt to woo these girls over time with repeat visits, gifts, tips, displays of cash. Eventually they will get the girl out with them, to a hotel, have sex, maybe a mistress type relationship. Lots of possibilities there. It's just not a sex on site shop, it is a place to get male grooming services AND meet sexy girls without much, who are looking for more.
Do be careful along Tu Xuong. It is the only time in Saigon I've been scared. Had been along a few times before without hassles. Really just curious - not really my scene. But last time I was with a VN friend on the bike. We got surrounded by pushy girls (and pimps) on bikes. They got really close and were touching us. We almost crashed the bike. I was convinced it was an attempted robbery, but we got away.
Been walking home every night for the past two weeks and get keep getting hit up by these two FL girls on Pham Nhu Lao. One has glasses, and the other always wears green pants. Does anyone know the two I'm talking about? I'm curious if any of you guys have met them, and could tell me whether they're good or not. I keep meaning to take one home but just never seem to find the time.
Been walking home every night for the past two weeks and get keep getting hit up by these two FL girls on Pham Nhu Lao. One has glasses, and the other always wears green pants. Does anyone know the two I'm talking about? I'm curious if any of you guys have met them, and could tell me whether they're good or not. I keep meaning to take one home but just never seem to find the time.Oni,
Now you've met them 14 times already. They are poor, they will be cheap. The one in glasses has no money for LASIk or contact lenses, the one in green pants has no money for another pair of pants.
You are on your way home to do what? It sounds like you have time, if you are going home. Just go for it, instead of going to sleep. What you do is agree on a small gift, and take one home or to a hotel. Be sure to bring your camera. Take pictures of her naked and fucking and sucking, then post the pictures in the Photo Gallery and describe what happened. After that, if the report and pics are good, other guys may find them too.
JD
JD you are not faimilar with HCM girls I take it.
Johndao- stay away from the one with the glasses.the skinny one,bit crazy;right?
She girl no good. maybe sick . too sick for me anyway.
"something like a 'playgirl'"
Hey Jd,. I ask because you seem to have some insight.
Can you comment on clubs like Sixteen on Le Quy Don. It seems that you avoid overpriced places where you get milked for money, however 16 has some truly beautiful girls in truly tiny tight skirts. Lots of cleavage on show so maybe worth a look. Also lots of fashion tattoos. Maybe more of your 'playgirls'.
All the customers except me appear to be Vietnamese or Viet Kieu. Seems like the girls don't directly approach the customers but maybe get introduced and then sit with them. Doesn't look like there's much likelihood of further action. Maybe they're content to just sit in close proximity to a girl more beautiful than would speak to them in the real world. You can get a drink for about 60K and there is a pretty good live band. If you're lucky you'll hear this older guitarist/singer doing French stuff rather than a girl singing Abba.
This place and maybe others like it seem a bit different from Catwalk etc. A lot more customers, and again, predominantly Vietnamese. Who are the girls, who are the customers, any chance for an outsider etc?. I can't imagine that the girls are making much money just sitting around.
Also I apologise for the 100 questions but am a little interested in the Viet Kieu scene. Are these guys back on holidays, looking for wives etc. , are they seen as very desirable? Eg. Saw some guy passing each girl 100K after they'd maybe been sitting with them all night, as if he was doing them a big favour. Maybe they get a big cut on the whisky?
The place that Billy went too is an actual massage parlor on Le Van Sy. It's in Phu Nhuan District on the way to the airport. The LE Duyen you guys are thinking of is a haircut (hot toc) place. These places do not give happy endings.Whisper1 is correct. It is a regular massage place. But there are some hot toc places that you can get more than just a massage. Just depends on the girls and who owns the place. Lots of girls on the street, just walk around and they will stop for you. I carry a helmet with me, so no worries about getting stopped and ticketed. I'm looking for a job in HCMC so if anyone knows anything available, message me. I'm a Manufacturing Engineer/Quality Engineer with machining background. I'm currently working as a Six Sigma Black Belt in California, but want to move to HCMC area. I do have a place to live at my in-laws if I find something.
Hi everyone,
I have been a member for about two years now and I really enjoy how everyone helps each other on these forums with all the info. I only wished I could have discovered this place sooner! I was thinking it would be great if we could aggregate all the wonderful info into a centralized location like google maps so we can locate places easier. Please feel feet input any places you been too or recommend. If there isn't any activity on the map, I'll take it down in a week or so.
Thanks everyone!
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=
117889653351391671868.0004670241eacd923b28b
Hi everyone,
I have been a member for about two years now and I really enjoy how everyone helps each other on these forums with all the info. I only wished I could have discovered this place sooner! I was thinking it would be great if we could aggregate all the wonderful info into a centralized location like google maps so we can locate places easier. Please feel feet input any places you been too or recommend. If there isn't any activity on the map, I'll take it down in a week or so.
Thanks everyone!
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=
117889653351391671868.0004670241eacd923b28b
The link is not working. I tried making it all one line and a few other ways but no joy.
The link is not working. I tried making it all one line and a few other ways but no joy.I'm sorry, please try it now: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=117889653351391671868.0004670241eacd923b28b
You have to input the whole url.
Who ever would like contribute to our google map, please pm your email so that i can add you as a Collaborator.
Thank everyone!
Tu Xuong near NKKN and on to Le Quy Don is a long-time hangout for streetwalkers, some of them very small and cute. I have only seen them there at night, fairly late, maybe after 9pm or so. You mention that you see them at all times of day and I don't know about that. There are high schools nearby and lots of kids walking around in the daytime. The girls standing around and squatting in the shadows at night will go to a short-time hotel with you for an hour for 150-200k.
Please take their pictures and post them.
JD
Are there ST hotels near this SW hangout (like within a short walking distance of say 1 or 2 blocks?)
And from what I read so far, the ST hotel rates are about $10 or so -is that about the correct price for this area ?
Also but not sure if these places change bedsheets after each customer or they change once a day like most hotels.
Thanks as I may visit this area on my next trip to Asia. but unsure if I want to bring a camera to take pics along to this area while trying to get girls at nite as it seems alot of them from what I read so far (SW and motogirls) are out to pickpocket and steal. So maybe safer to bring as little as possible.
Also, thanks JohnD for the map.
Shark
Bartchamdo
04-11-09, 12:46
I was thinking it would be great if we could aggregate all the wonderful info into a centralized location like google maps so we can locate places easier. Please feel feet input any places you been too or recommend. If there isn't any activity on the map, I'll take it down in a week or so.
This is a great idea. Hope you make it open for editing from everyone and give people more than a week to get the ball rolling. Would be useful to provide a little more info than just the location. For instance, yesterday I walked by Le Vy Beauty Salon at 98 Bui Thi Xuan. Lots of cute girls out front and inside, but I wasn't completely sure what to expect as far as prices. I got a brochure which gave some prices - Shampoo / Massage (2h) for 80,000 dong; Hair cut for 40,000 dong, etc. What can I expect as far as prices for extras? They seem to do legitimate business as at least part of their work. Are there private areas in the back?
Also went by 21 Bui Thi Xuan, but saw no obvious business with ladies.
This is a great idea. Hope you make it open for editing from everyone and give people more than a week to get the ball rolling. Would be useful to provide a little more info than just the location. For instance, yesterday I walked by Le Vy Beauty Salon at 98 Bui Thi Xuan. Lots of cute girls out front and inside, but I wasn't completely sure what to expect as far as prices. I got a brochure which gave some prices - Shampoo / Massage (2h) for 80,000 dong; Hair cut for 40,000 dong, etc. What can I expect as far as prices for extras? They seem to do legitimate business as at least part of their work. Are there private areas in the back?
Also went by 21 Bui Thi Xuan, but saw no obvious business with ladies.It's open to everyone but google requires a person's email to allow access to it. I'll try and keep it open a little bit longer. As for the Le Vy Beauty Salon, there are no extras.... It's legit, but that also depends on the girl you get and your skills. That can be also said about 263 Beauty Salon. My Fiancee's cousin owns that shop and she used too work there. So i know for sure nothing going down there. Plus i never really like the place, looks a little shabby for me.
P.S. If anyone would like to edit our google map site please PM your email. I promise i'm not going to spam you!!
this is a great idea. hope you make it open for editing from everyone and give people more than a week to get the ball rolling. would be useful to provide a little more info than just the location. for instance, yesterday i walked by le vy beauty salon at 98 bui thi xuan. lots of cute girls out front and inside, but i wasn't completely sure what to expect as far as prices. i got a brochure which gave some prices. shampoo / massage (2h) for 80, 000 dong; hair cut for 40, 000 dong, etc. what can i expect as far as prices for extras? they seem to do legitimate business as at least part of their work. are there private areas in the back?
also went by 21 bui thi xuan, but saw no obvious business with ladies. in hcmc, anywhere around the center of town, if you can see anything that looks like action, looks like there are some possibilities inside, then you can be sure there is nothing happening. just pretty girls displayed under bright lights to lure customers in for a hair wash and face massage and clothed body massage in a common room with other guys. or at a cafe, they will just sit and talk with you as you drink coffee.
outside the city center, it can be different, you may see girls sitting outside or can peer into dingy cafe om or massage om places where the girls will blow you for 100-150k. but these are nowhere around the center of town where rules are strict. just look at how the bars on hbt operate. closed doors at all time in the evening when the girls are there, doos open a bit as a guy or guys walk by, try to pull them in, then closed again. this is not bangkok!
jd
Mash Potatoes
04-13-09, 10:44
Totally agree 100% with the post below.
I've been searching for many years for an 'all in one' place in D1 downtown and there are none. The hair cut places and even massage places are very limited in actions in D1. Must go further out which makes it a hassle for quick fixes.
The girls who work in 'hair cut' places don't really consider themselves as sex workers, rather they see themselves as female company. They don't have sex with everyone and most don't even go further than chit chat. It's up to the skill of the individual in order to get some.
For them, sitting around looking pretty beats sweating it out as a waitress, cause roughly that's how much they would earn per month without 'extras'.
Some ok hoc toc joints on DBP, D7, Duong 2. Bit too far for regular visits.
yesterday I walked by Le Vy Beauty Salon at 98 Bui Thi Xuan. Lots of cute girls out front and inside, but I wasn't completely sure what to expect as far as prices. I got a brochure which gave some prices - Shampoo / Massage (2h) for 80,000 dong; Hair cut for 40,000 dong, etc. What can I expect as far as prices for extras? They seem to do legitimate business as at least part of their work. Are there private areas in the back?
Also went by 21 Bui Thi Xuan, but saw no obvious business with ladies.
All the hair saloon places ( Le An Xuan St, Bui Thi Xuan St, Truong Dinh St etc etc) in the city do not provide extras. Having a girl scantily dressed does not equate it to being a joint that offers extra. These are all legitimate businesses.
As JD mentioned, it is used to attract customers. It depends on your skills to get to know her better and maybe date her out but that does not mean she will still sleep with you.
Standard Services are:
Hair Wash & Massage (Commom / Shared area)
Facials
Mani & pedi
"Ear Waxing"
"something like a 'playgirl'"
Hey Jd,. I ask because you seem to have some insight.
Can you comment on clubs like Sixteen on Le Quy Don.
Club 16 is a very common concept in HCMC. There are quite a few more around the area, with and without a live band
Techinacally, it is not a club. It is more of a bar. The girls you see are hostesses. They are there to accompany customers. The guy you saw giving money to the girls are tips. Same as Catwalk. Only difference is that Catwalk caters to mostly foreignors whereas 16 caters to locals.
and you are right that the girls dont earn much. In fact they dont have a salary and they depend totally on tips. They also use this opportunity to try and find someone that will "take care" of them.
Many Viet Kieus are returning to Vietnam for business ventures / investments. The Viet Govt has changed certain policies where by it makes it easier for them to return.
There are also many Viet Kieus who save money and come back to Vietnam for a long holiday and when they run out of cash, they head back home.
Sorry everyone, I haven't got the interest as I thought I would have and someone "Timothy" deleted ALL the info I added for everyone. Also he felt it was appropriate to add his own home to the map! ? ! So as of today, I'm closing it down. Thanks everyone.
It was nice while it lasted!
Club 16 is a very common concept in HCMC. There are quite a few more around the area, with and without a live band
Techinacally, it is not a club. It is more of a bar. The girls you see are hostesses. They are there to accompany customers. The guy you saw giving money to the girls are tips. Same as Catwalk. Only difference is that Catwalk caters to mostly foreignors whereas 16 caters to locals.
and you are right that the girls dont earn much. In fact they dont have a salary and they depend totally on tips. They also use this opportunity to try and find someone that will "take care" of them.
Many Viet Kieus are returning to Vietnam for business ventures / investments. The Viet Govt has changed certain policies where by it makes it easier for them to return.
There are also many Viet Kieus who save money and come back to Vietnam for a long holiday and when they run out of cash, they head back home.I don't like to go to these kinds of places. I don't appreciate the atmosphere or the music, the expection that you should buy expensive 'XO' and mix it with ice and Coca-Cola, the high tips for doing nothing really other than looking pretty and selling you something. What's the point, I am looking for sex, not a smoky, loud bar and expensive alcohol.
So the stretch of DBL I'm referring to is the area with all the visible girls in the hair shops near where DBL intersects with Bach Dang street.
Hey what is a good time to explore these? What time do they close?
Tom Strander & JohnDao,
I just tried PM'ing you 2 but you aren't able to receive PM's.
Wanted to mention that I've been in that DBL area but haven't really explored it too well. Actually I was picking up a girl occassionally over a year ago -- she worked in a hotel in that area, and apparently would be available at the hotel up until when she got off in the evening, then she'd work on the street, which was where I found her. I never did go check out that hotel again, other than the one time I went there with her.
It's a shame you guys don't have PM, because I tend to think it's not a great idea to post the actual address up here publicly.
Hey what is a good time to explore these? What time do they close?They are usually open from 10am to about 10pm. Some may close at 9 or 9:30pm, others maybe 11pm but that would be late.
Just went to see what the state of the HBTEtc. bars was. A lot of them are shut this evening. Not sure how long that's been going on, if it's a one time thing or has been happening lately (don't go there these days). I asked at one, on LTT (Bin Bin) and was told they open at 9pm. Very strange. The ones that were open barely had any hostesses working.
For example, 91 was totally closed on Sat at about 7pm. 35, 49 and 51 open but hardly any girls. Bin Bin and Tia To on LTT totally shut.
I don't like to go to these kinds of places. I don't appreciate the atmosphere or the music, the expection that you should buy expensive 'XO' and mix it with ice and Coca-Cola, the high tips for doing nothing really other than looking pretty and selling you something. What's the point, I am looking for sex, not a smoky, loud bar and expensive alcohol.Jd,
I get your point, and certainly if you're looking for sex the negotiation is going to be a lot different from more up front places and no doubt more expensive. But the girls are definitely going for the sexy look and can't believe that they're not experienced or would not expect to be propositioned.
On the atmosphere also I agree that 16 is not so welcoming, almost get the impression they're thinking you've wandered into the wrong place. And not like I'm dressed like a hobo or looking like Quasimodo. On the music. Actually the band's are all pretty good, always good guitar and bass, and sometimes get a gem like good singer or horn player. Also good band at Crystal. Probably on par with Yoko band. On Pham Ngoc Thach, problem is choice of music but 90% + of all music is crap anyway. Even at Yoko you have to endure Alanis Morissette type stuff.
I'm an ex smoker so can be very smoke conscious but the better places seem ok. Maybe because high ceilings and good aircon. Some of the drinking bars like M52, Polo etc are unendurable for me. Especially when some big dick lights up the cigar. I've tried other places like Saigon Face and can't work it out. Almost empty, full of security, ear splitting crap music with hero dj's, girls sitting around not doing anything? Been to Catwalk a few times and definitely can pick up, but most of the girls actually aren't that attractive. Just dressed up. To tell the truth I occasionally check out these places on the off chance of finding a different look. Tall, sexy pretty, with a nice bum etc. Pretty hard to find this type in Saigon. Maybe need to go to Hanoi. Amazing how ordinary the girl can look when out of the dress, high heels and makeup. But still manage to get fooled over again.
Might be dreaming but ideally would like to occasionally go somewhere to have a drink and listen to some live music, maybe have a chat with the sexy girl of choice and score a date later if it looks like it could be fun. I'm interested in what you think the Viet Kieus, or even if they are Viet Kieus, are after, assuming that you're not typical but would have an insight. Seems like a lot of big noting. Buying the overpriced bottle of whisky, fruit platters etc. As I mentioned before it looks like they're not big tippers. If the girl is only going to make a couple hundred k per night with all the effort of dressing up, make up etc and having to put up with sitting next to someone they wouldn't talk to in the real world, then hardly seems a worth while occupation.
Incidentally got to disagree with you about the girls on Tu Xuong. The ones I've seen at night look fairly poor, rough and desperate. Maybe even homeless. I wouldn't recommend trawling in this area.
Timlooblue
04-18-09, 15:54
Hi there everyone, I am new to this board, however I am living in HCMC for about 4 years now and know my way around the non-pro scene. Actually I live in the far north of HCMC, District 12, it is in no comparison to any girls you find in the city.
Well, I just wonder, are you guys simply only interested to pay girls for sex or do some of you actually prefer to meet young beautiful and lovely girls on the street?
Ok, don't get me wrong, I know how it is when you get to a new country or perhaps simply are on vacation here. I am calling out to some guys in my age range (30. 35) who perhaps like to go on a special tour around the countryside. I am doing it often and you will explore a complete new world. I know my way around and more or less do speak Vietnamese. If it sounds like an invitation for a paid tour, sorry, no, it isn't. I am simply a guy who is tired of going around alone and is willing to show nice opportunities around here. The clock is ticking differently here.
Just went to see what the state of the HBTEtc. bars was. A lot of them are shut this evening. Not sure how long that's been going on, if it's a one time thing or has been happening lately (don't go there these days). I asked at one, on LTT (Bin Bin) and was told they open at 9pm. Very strange. The ones that were open barely had any hostesses working.
For example, 91 was totally closed on Sat at about 7pm. 35, 49 and 51 open but hardly any girls. Bin Bin and Tia To on LTT totally shut.
This may be due to the fact there are 2 major Public Holidays coming up soon. 30th April / Victory Day and 1st May / Labour Day. During these times, the possibilities of raids are very very much higher. Most places will operate but they will be very guarded. These activities always happen close to Major Public Holidays.
Explorerman
04-20-09, 03:34
Hey Guys
Though usually I don't have time to try for the GFE on short visits, my trip to HCMC last week gave me a chance. I was staying at the Park Hyatt, so I knew they were tough about bringing in girls.
But I had 'met' a 28 year old online who had seemed very interested in meeting, sent sexy pics, and then asked me to get her something as a present to give her when me met for coffee on Monday. I knew that was a good sign, since all the girls usually ask for a gift if they don't ask for money.
So Monday we meet for coffee, I give her my gift, and we are chatting away. Hit it off. She suggests we go for a walk, so we go outside, holding hands, and she wants to kiss. Finally, she looks at me and says words that every guy dreams of: "I am really horny. Do you think we could go to a hotel? "
HAHA. Cooly saying yes, off we went. Found a short term place and debated all night or short term, went for 4 hours. Wonderful time of sex, two pops, and very hot.
We arrange to meet the next day for dinner at my hotel, thinking maybe we could sneak upstairs from the restaurant to my room at 7 or 8:00. It worked! So she got to spend all night with me at the Park Hyatt on Tuesday. OMG, we f***ed all night. Guys, I am in my 40s. I don't think I ever came 5 times in one night, but this girl had me going wild from 8-1:00am and then again at 6:00am, and one of the best nights of sex I have ever had.
Yes, kinda worn out for work on Wednesday. Hehehe.
We meet again Wednesday night for dinner and music, then she takes me back to her place, which is nice and better than I expected, so we f*% there for a few hours, then I go home. Great GFE.
Then Thursday, we went out for spa early, then upstairs to my room at Park Hyatt around 8 for a quickie before the security guys throw her out. Sure enough, got a call at 10 asking for her to go.
An amazing week, and now I have my go-to girl in HCMC. And to think, I had almost given up hope!
Buying the overpriced bottle of whiskey, fruit platters etc. As I mentioned before it looks like they're not big tippers. If the girl is only going to make a couple hundred k per night with all the effort of dressing up, make up etc and having to put up with sitting next to someone they wouldn't talk to in the real world, then hardly seems a worthwhile occupation.The girls get commission on the price of the drinks and fruit (especially the drink) so that is the tip.
While individual standards might vary, tips of 100,000 to the girl are considered normal in places like these for reasonably good service and company.
To leave no tip at all, they'd be thinking, "why did I have to get stuck with this loser." I'm not sure this is the image you want to be aiming for.
Hi there everyone, I am new to this board, however I am living in HCMC for about 4 years now and know my way around the non-pro scene. Actually I live in the far north of HCMC, District 12, it is in no comparison to any girls you find in the city.
Well, I just wonder, are you guys simply only interested to pay girls for sex or do some of you actually prefer to meet young beautiful and lovely girls on the street?
Ok, don't get me wrong, I know how it is when you get to a new country or perhaps simply are on vacation here. I am calling out to some guys in my age range (30. 35) who perhaps like to go on a special tour around the countryside. I am doing it often and you will explore a complete new world. I know my way around and more or less do speak Vietnamese. If it sounds like an invitation for a paid tour, sorry, no, it isn't. I am simply a guy who is tired of going around alone and is willing to show nice opportunities around here. The clock is ticking differently here.
Timlooblue, tried to pm you but your account doesn't accept pm's. How can someone get in touch with you?
Regarding my previous post asking why some bars were closed or near empty. It was a combination of factors:
1. As Newbie suggested, the holidays have turned up the heat on these places, and that explains why fewer were in some bars
2. The owner of 3 of the bars had a wedding, so those 3 were closed until late in the evening, opening at 9 or 10. I learned this from one of the ones at 91 a few nights later when it was open again at its normal time.
I cruised past DBL last week -- I have to say my first impression is very mixed. Might go look again more closely but I wasn't seeing much that was too tempting.
There's a certain hotel in that area that I'm pretty sure has girls who are available for massage in a room plus extras, and those extras might be very special. If anyone is interested, PM me and I'll forward the details.
Might be dreaming but ideally would like to occasionally go somewhere to have a drink and listen to some live music, maybe have a chat with the sexy girl of choice and score a date later if it looks like it could be fun. I'm interested in what you think the Viet Kieus, or even if they are Viet Kieus, are after, assuming that you're not typical but would have an insight. Seems like a lot of big noting. Buying the overpriced bottle of whisky, fruit platters etc. As I mentioned before it looks like they're not big tippers. If the girl is only going to make a couple hundred k per night with all the effort of dressing up, make up etc and having to put up with sitting next to someone they wouldn't talk to in the real world, then hardly seems a worth while occupation.I like to go to 17 Saloon on Pham Ngu Lao. Great Philippino band, good mix of expats and locals. Reasonably priced drinks and always a table of Vietnamese cuties getting hammered. Certainly a few freelancers there giving you the eye.
This may be due to the fact there are 2 major Public Holidays coming up soon. 30th April / Victory Day and 1st May / Labour Day. During these times, the possibilities of raids are very very much higher. Most places will operate but they will be very guarded. These activities always happen close to Major Public Holidays.Guys, I think it should be obvious to everyone who 'owns' or 'runs' the HBT bars. No, there is no possibility of raids there.
JD
Guys, I think it should be obvious to everyone who 'owns' or 'runs' the HBT bars. No, there is no possibility of raids there.
JD
I'm not sure I'd agree it's obvious who owns or runs those places. Do you think you know who does?
Mash Potatoes
04-25-09, 12:02
Guys, I think it should be obvious to everyone who 'owns' or 'runs' the HBT bars. No, there is no possibility of raids there.Not sure if it is 'that' obvious. If you are referring to the local Jacks then I'd disagree, cause HBT bars do get raided/inspected. When you see the girls in overcoats once in a while, then you know there is a shakedown.
Shady business are never 'owned' by the Jacks, they just make sure that all is kosher.
Not sure if it is 'that' obvious. If you are referring to the local Jacks then I'd disagree, cause HBT bars do get raided/inspected. When you see the girls in overcoats once in a while, then you know there is a shakedown.
Shady business are never 'owned' by the Jacks, they just make sure that all is kosher.
Right. There are raids there, plenty. I've been present for a few. The bars have guys outside watching out for them all the time they're open. If there's one thing that's obvious, it's that they're not owned by the local... um... Jacks.
I don't mean to come across as harsh or slamming in some of my recent posts. Sorry if I did. I realize people come here to talk openly, whether its to share opinions or facts -- and that can sometimes get a bit dicey, especially when the fact is based on a feeling rather than solid evidence, so something like a mixture of opinion and fact. It's understandable, and hard to resist posting about if you have a strong gut feeling. It's just that gut feelings can be wrong. And yes they can be right too.
I just wanted to set the record straight so people don't have the wrong ideas about some of these things. Just some recent postings struck me as wrong info being shared.
Regarding the last few previous postings, I would tend to agree with Wendella and Mash Potato.
Gossip is one of the biggest and more well established clubs in HCMC. A share was given to a "Jack" as an incentive to facilitate the licensing process. Things in there were getting too hot (Most popular disco to pick up) in there till even they had to be to be shut for 3 months by the authorities.
Regarding the last few previous postings, I would tend to agree with Wendella and Mash Potato.
Gossip is one of the biggest and more well established clubs in HCMC. A share was given to a "Jack" as an incentive to facilitate the licensing process. Things in there were getting too hot (Most popular disco to pick up) in there till even they had to be to be shut for 3 months by the authorities.The disputes at these places are not so much about the nature of the business itself. They are internecine (characterized by struggle within a group, usually applied to an ethnic or familial relationship; conflict within a group or organization) disputes about money and control.
Think of the vast profits, think of the levels of control: Ward or street level, District level, City level, National level.
Hi there everyone, I am new to this board, however I am living in HCMC for about 4 years now and know my way around the non-pro scene. Actually I live in the far north of HCMC, District 12, it is in no comparison to any girls you find in the city.
Well, I just wonder, are you guys simply only interested to pay girls for sex or do some of you actually prefer to meet young beautiful and lovely girls on the street?
Ok, don't get me wrong, I know how it is when you get to a new country or perhaps simply are on vacation here. I am calling out to some guys in my age range (30. 35) who perhaps like to go on a special tour around the countryside. I am doing it often and you will explore a complete new world. I know my way around and more or less do speak Vietnamese. If it sounds like an invitation for a paid tour, sorry, no, it isn't. I am simply a guy who is tired of going around alone and is willing to show nice opportunities around here. The clock is ticking differently here.Hi Timlooblue,
I'm interested in the tour. Lets get a drink sometime.
I've been living here for about 7 months. I'm in my 30s.
I'll be in town from May 10-16.
If anyone's down to meet, send me a PM.
I'm an Asian-American in my mid 20s.
Member #2234
05-08-09, 10:46
Tried to PM you but it says you have chosen not to receive PM's
Contact me if you want more info on VN
I'll be in town from May 10-16.
If anyone's down to meet, send me a PM.
I'm an Asian-American in my mid 20s.
I'm getting ready to head out of town but wil be back on the 18th for another month or so. If anyone wants to meet up for drinks and whatnot send me a PM.
I'm an American, mid-thirties. Visit VN a few times a year but haven't spent much time in HCMC for a while.
Tried to PM you but it says you have chosen not to receive PM's
Contact me if you want more info on VNI forgot that a subscription is required for Private Messaging. Maybe we can just arrange a public get-together in this thread and make it open to anyone who wants to meet other like-minded people.
I'll be the first to suggest a place and time -- Highlands Coffee shop at the corner of De Tham and Pham Ngu Lao, District 1. Maybe tomorrow afternoon (Monday), or even tonight!
On a 2 day visit to Vietnam for the first time. I am in Ho Chi Minh City and have 2 free nights :) Really found the girls to be pretty. Can any one here help me out.
Rob Doobing
05-15-09, 05:12
Hi there everyone, I am new to this board, however I am living in HCMC for about 4 years now and know my way around the non-pro scene. Actually I live in the far north of HCMC, District 12, it is in no comparison to any girls you find in the city.
Well, I just wonder, are you guys simply only interested to pay girls for sex or do some of you actually prefer to meet young beautiful and lovely girls on the street?
Ok, don't get me wrong, I know how it is when you get to a new country or perhaps simply are on vacation here. I am calling out to some guys in my age range (30. 35) who perhaps like to go on a special tour around the countryside. I am doing it often and you will explore a complete new world. I know my way around and more or less do speak Vietnamese. If it sounds like an invitation for a paid tour, sorry, no, it isn't. I am simply a guy who is tired of going around alone and is willing to show nice opportunities around here. The clock is ticking differently here.Hello Timlooblue,
I am in Dist 12 too, knowledge is one of the few things which actually increase volume when shared.
You cannot receive PMs, feel free to PM me for further contact. I will be happy to share.
Alwayshard45
05-23-09, 07:51
Hey guys,
Was wondering if there is any good places like the DBP Hot Tocs that offer FS during the day?
Hey guys,
Was wondering if there is any good places like the DBP Hot Tocs that offer FS during the day?No, there aren't any, sorry to say.
JD
Rob Doobing
05-27-09, 06:04
Yesterday was a day I could enjoy some free time and freedom.
So started early afternoon, went to my favourite Cat Toc place, 76 Pasteur St, in district 1. I have been a regular there for years taking opportunity to get contact with nice hot chicks while being groomed and massaged. There are, I would estimate more than 20 girls working there, most of them good looks, and nice manners. They do mostly massage and shampoo, in open rooms with mobile partitions, you can also get haircut and manicure.
This is not a P4p place, no extra services are provided there, but if you know your way and sweet talk the mamasan and the girls you can make delightful contacts and date them outside working hours for whatever leisurely activity you and the girl may fancy. It requires, of course minimum operational Vietnamese language skills. I called mamasan to announce my coming, and she introduced a lovely young lady, who gave me three hours of hair wash, massage and cuddling. The chick is hot, arrangements have been made for further encounters.
A lovely time, three hours of relaxation, the bill: 300 000 excluding tips, including haircut, manicure, shampoo and massage.
This was a great opening and put me in the mood for further action, this time with immediate result. I went to check Bar 29, on 29 Dong Khoi St, dist 1. I am not really a regular there but have been there several times in the course of years and these people have a good memory.
I like this bar because atmosphere is relaxed with a good choice of music for people my generation, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Crosby Stills. And for the straight forward going with the girls.
The talent there is average to good, and spirit great. Here they know what a customer is coming for and proposals for out-take come promptly.
Get there, take a seat order your beer, oppose girls to come sitting with you too prompt to let you have a look on the available talent. Take time, observe, talk to the bar tender, make your choice, invite her for a drink, you are in business, discuss the conditions.
The bar fine is 6 LDs at 50k dongs each. Best bet is to go to the hotel you choose, this avoids you overpaying the bar’s choice place. Then for 1M dongs excluding hotel, you should be able to negotiate an LT, make sure, if you are not familiar with the game, that you define the service and conditions before accepting a deal.
I will not tell names nor details there either, since I would be talking about individuals, and these things are personal, performance and satisfaction vary considerably according to personalities; as always in these circumstances they are in proportion of the consideration you give to your provider and to the interest you are able to raise for you. Be open-minded, relaxed and smile. This is the key, do not expect super service to come automatically, just because you pushed the door open and pay for service. This will get you great mileage and satisfaction.
I just don't get it. There is a global financial crisis and in most places the prices for gals are getting cheaper but in Saigon they keep on going up!
Last year at Bar 29 I was getting LT for VND 1.0 mil and this year it has been squeezed to VND 1.2 mil and now RD is paying VND1.3. The new bar Cocos want VND1.2 for ST!
Guys - the key to this is negotiation. Don't just convert to US$ and think 'that's cheap'. Whatever they offer try to get 30-40% off it.
This is Vietnam after all and everything is negotiable multiple times.
I just don't get it. There is a global financial crisis and in most places the prices for gals are getting cheaper but in Saigon they keep on going up!Yep. That's the topsy-turvy world of VN bar girl economics. There is a group of girls I have known for about 10 years now. Originally out of Apocalypse. Some got married, some work in Singapore etc. We often chat about these things.
At least when they started, their thinking was that "to do like that" is wrong, but licensed by a particular need. Eg support a lazy father, kid etc. In one case it was pay for AIDS drugs for a brother.
So they have an idea of how much cash they need. When clients are abundant (ie demand high) they were OK about charging less money. But during a quiet season when there is oversupply, they charge more for an individual job. Because they've got to get The money in.
Member #2234
06-03-09, 03:25
Hi m8 email me if you wanna meet up for a coffee iphonecds2008@yahoo.co.uk
I forgot that a subscription is required for Private Messaging. Maybe we can just arrange a public get-together in this thread and make it open to anyone who wants to meet other like-minded people.
I'll be the first to suggest a place and time -- Highlands Coffee shop at the corner of De Tham and Pham Ngu Lao, District 1. Maybe tomorrow afternoon (Monday), or even tonight!
Nail The World
06-04-09, 17:39
Best to head over Nguyen Hue and get a hotel away from plain clothes police who hang around Ho Huan Nghiep, Dong Du, Mac Thi Buoi, HBT, Thi Sach and Thai Van Lung – where all the action is. Is this advice still relevant? Is it not ok to live close to the action?
Asswrestler
06-04-09, 19:45
Where is the best place to go to see a big number of streetwalkers and get offers?
Nail The World
06-04-09, 23:41
If one were to stay for a few months what would the right strategy be? (I am not saying it is me but it could be).
Keep your ass parked in one of the shady hotels for the entire time?
Rent an apartment? A serviced apartment is out of question - one, because the curfew applies to them too and two, because they are way out of range for a months long mongering budget. Money spent on babes is productive, money spent on renting is not. If the apartment happened to be in a residential neighborhood would the surrounding Viets get freaked out upon seeing constant flow of Viet hunnies? Would they steal my stuff? Is there a curfew law for apartments too?
Park yourself in one of the surrounding areas, like Vung Tau, Nha Trang, whatever else? They seem to be really cheap.
Where is the best place to go to see a big number of streetwalkers and get offers?Nguyen Chi Thanh St. in D5 around midday, then again after dark. Lots there, and lots you will not want. Look carefully though, you will find something good. 150k-250k only.
Where is the best place to go to see a big number of streetwalkers and get offers?
On Nguyen Thi Minh Khai st. by the zoo.
Hi m8 email me if you wanna meet up for a coffee iphonecds2008@yahoo.co.ukAnyone want to meet up this weekend for coffee and perhaps a look at the local talent?
Alwayshard45
06-05-09, 15:54
If one were to stay for a few months what would the right strategy be? (I am not saying it is me but it could be).
Keep your ass parked in one of the shady hotels for the entire time?
Rent an apartment? A serviced apartment is out of question - one, because the curfew applies to them too and two, because they are way out of range for a months long mongering budget. Money spent on babes is productive, money spent on renting is not. If the apartment happened to be in a residential neighborhood would the surrounding Viets get freaked out upon seeing constant flow of Viet hunnies? Would they steal my stuff? Is there a curfew law for apartments too?
Park yourself in one of the surrounding areas, like Vung Tau, Nha Trang, whatever else? They seem to be really cheap.If you decide to live in VT, NT or anywhere else, your options for mongering are very limited. Well more so than living in the "big city".
As far as living in HCMC, if you are only going to stay a few months there are a few options. 1) look for a shared housing apartment with other foreigners (all male) would be smart, and they are generally in a reidential area. However, there is a small problem. If you have nosy neighbors, Vietnamese LOVE to rat people out. It is illegal to have VN women stay overnight in foreigners homes, so if they catch you and don't like you or what you are doing, they will report you and the police will make a visit. NOT fun. 2) you can rent a room in a GF hotel, and there are tons in the PNL area, that will rent you a room for between 175-300 USD/mo. They will generally clean your room daily or weekly, some offer free breakfast daily and they all usually have tv, private bath, hot/cold water, air con etc...all the basics.
Anyone want to meet up this weekend for coffee and perhaps a look at the local talent?Me :)
I come to Saigon next week.
I just don't get it. There is a global financial crisis and in most places the prices for gals are getting cheaper but in Saigon they keep on going up!
Last year at Bar 29 I was getting LT for VND 1.0 mil and this year it has been squeezed to VND 1.2 mil and now RD is paying VND1.3. The new bar Cocos want VND1.2 for ST!
Guys - the key to this is negotiation. Don't just convert to US$ and think 'that's cheap'. Whatever they offer try to get 30-40% off it.
This is Vietnam after all and everything is negotiable multiple times.Do you mean that a ST can cost 55 euros ?
How much does a ST , a LT cost in Ho Chi Minh City?
Thanks by advance.
Nail The World
06-05-09, 20:19
If you have nosy neighbors, Vietnamese LOVE to rat people out.
Thanks Alwayshard, that's what I had thought. It's understandable that you can't have everything, so I guess putting up in a room is not that bad an option if it ensures safety.
Do you mean that a ST can cost 55 euros?ST for $70?
They can kindly f*** off. Why would I go to Vietnam if that's the case? I will stick to other things that look good like beaches.
Alwayshard45
06-05-09, 20:52
This evening I was wondering around HCMC looking for something new. Not the same old things I have been doing for a few years now. I wondered onto NTMK and headed towards the zoo. I was headed towards DBP hot tocs and maybe massage places as I have mentioned in previous posts. I went passed Nguyễn Bĩnh Kiêm and noticed a bunch of girls on motorbikes without helmets. hmmm. This screamed out to me as girls looking for fun. I went onto the bridge and pull over just before Nguyễn Ngọc Phương (the first street after the bridge ends) and just posted up there. I ended up chatting with some guy on the side of the road who was there for god knows what. But it was entertaining conversation. Right about there is where most of the girls circle around to go back up NTMK to look for more "clients". So you get a good look at all the girls as the slow down. Let me tell you guys something. There are A LOT of hotties here. Well, atleast in my opinion. Of course you have your standard haggered old laidies, a few fat ones, but mostly there is a lot of quailty over here. MUCH better than off of Nguyễn Đinh Chiểu/NKKN area.
I stopped one girl passing, as I thought she was the hottest of the bunch, and asked how much. At first she asked 700k for 1hr. and I tried with all my might not to laugh and say way too much, and I did, but she could see I wasn't going to pay that. We agreed on 300K plus 75K for the hotel, which ended up being 100k. So total 400k for 1hr, but ended up being about 1:45-2 hours all for the same price with both the girl and hotel. Sorry guys, no pics, as I wasn't planning on picking a girl up, but rather just go to a blow-n-go type place.
As far as service of my girl she was great. BBBJ with DT; slow and attentive; very responsive to the body ect. Of course, I know this is all YMMV, however, I was pleased. I will go back again, and next time with a camera.
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Asswrestler
06-05-09, 22:49
Do you mean that a ST can cost 55 euros ?For sure. Today I was out with five girls I know. They won't go with any customer under 200$ for ST. They have like 6-7 clients each every week. So there are people who does everything to rise the price for all of us. Koreans mostly.
I stopped one girl passing, as I thought she was the hottest of the bunch, and asked how much. At first she asked 700k for 1hr. and I tried with all my might not to laugh and say way too much, and I did, but she could see I wasn't going to pay that. We agreed on 300K plus 75K for the hotel, which ended up being 100k. So total 400k for 1hr, but ended up being about 1:45-2 hours all for the same price with both the girl and hotel. Sorry guys, no pics, as I wasn't planning on picking a girl up, but rather just go to a blow-n-go type place.These girls can speak some english or only vietnamese?
In bars and clubs from Ho Chi Minh City (where freelancers hang out), are pants shirt, and dress shoes required for entry?
Thanks by advance.
In bars and clubs from Ho Chi Minh City (where freelancers hang out), are pants shirt, and dress shoes required for entry?
Thanks by advance.In Vietnam you should always wear pants (or shorts) and a shirt. Nudity and half nudity is not acceptable, even though it is hot. You should never wear a dress, VNese will not understand that. Also, yes, wear shoes or sandals at all times, there are many sharp objects around. I always wear shoes or closed toe sandals.
Alwayshard45
06-07-09, 11:25
These girls can speak some english or only vietnamese?I would say yes, generally, they speak enough english to ask you if you want "boom-boom" and negotiate. I would not expect to have full conversations with many of them. Also, I speak enough Vietnamese to not ever worry about that. But generally, they always approach you with the little bit of english they do know.
In bars and clubs from Ho Chi Minh City (where freelancers hang out), are pants shirt, and dress shoes required for entry?
Thanks by advance.
In general, the better you dress, the better you'll be looked upon in bars and clubs by Vietnamese. Keep in mind that a club or disco is an expensive night out for Vietnamese, so of course they get dressed up. Shorts are considered much less polite than long pants, and not appropriate for anywhere you would go out for the evening. Same goes for sandals. If you showed up in t-shirt, shorts and sandals, they'd figure you were a clueless foreigner, not much class.
Now I'm not sure how strictly these rules apply to talking elephants like yourself. ;)
If you have nosy neighbors, Vietnamese LOVE to rat people out. It is illegal to have VN women stay overnight in foreigners homes, so if they catch you and don't like you or what you are doing, they will report you and the police will make a visit. NOT fun.
The rule also applies to Locals, not only foreignors. I have personally experienced it.
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