Melbourne

[RnTug]

The whole "slept with the quarantines" is unsubstantiated Murdoch hack bullshit designed to sell that poor excuse for toilet paper that is the Hun. The most likely story is simple. Poorly trained guards shared cigarette lighters, touched door handles and broke rules about dealing with people who are potentially infectious due to a massive cockup by the Andrews government. Unlike other idiots (Hello, ruby princess and the federal government) the Andrews government has been open and honest, much to the sheer annoyance of cuntfaces like Tim Smith and Andrew cuntface bolt.

It's a fucking virus. It spreads very quickly in winter. Fuck faces like Tim Smith clearly don't understand science or read what happened in Italy. .Brilliantly summed up Supman.

[Engine Driver]

What is even more incredulous is that hordes of horny root-thirsty mongers pay good money for a nasty root with old dusty Chinese crones down on Skid Row. In the Land O' Plenty, is it that hard to find a good root with Aussie lasses with a fresh puss and firm tits? Are mongers just desperate for a root or do they have a fetish for Chinese crones with garlic breath and soft sagging mammary glands?CM,

Let me enlighten you. The hordes of root thirsty mongers have no other choice. In fact, it's no different in your own country or in any other Rich White Man Land (RWML). Unfortunately, young Aussie lasses or young American lasses in the age bracket 18-30 do not want to become prostitutes as they have no economic necessity to sell their fresh puss and firm tits. There are plenty of normal jobs for people who can speak English or failing that, the welfare payments are substantial.

In RWML, men over the age of 40 will not be able to get a root easily. Their wives, after marriage, will start to hate sex. In any case, white Caucasian women around the age of 40 throughout the world are usually fat and ugly with horrible feminist attitudes. They cannot just go on Tinder and pick up young girls as the girls don't want to hang out with grandpa types.

[Chocha Monger]

CM,

Let me enlighten you. The hordes of root thirsty mongers have no other choice. In fact, it's no different in your own country or in any other Rich White Man Land (RWML). Unfortunately, young Aussie lasses or young American lasses in the age bracket 18-30 do not want to become prostitutes as they have no economic necessity to sell their fresh puss and firm tits. There are plenty of normal jobs for people who can speak English or failing that, the welfare payments are substantial.

In RWML, men over the age of 40 will not be able to get a root easily. Their wives, after marriage, will start to hate sex. In any case, white Caucasian women around the age of 40 throughout the world are usually fat and ugly with horrible feminist attitudes. They cannot just go on Tinder and pick up young girls as the girls don't want to hang out with grandpa types.How depressing to hear that life ends at 40 years of age in The Land O' Plenty! With no more good roots to look forward to after their 40th birthdays, it is no wonder that many middle-aged Aussie lads abandon their families, livelihoods, and homes to relocate to Southeast Asia where there are endless numbers of nubile brown beauties eager to satisfy their every depraved appetite for a small fee. I guess you cannot blame the lads for fucking off to BBFSCIP Paradise upon realizing that they have another 40 years or so of life on the planet without a good root! This is especially true for the lads married to the white shrews who begin hating sex at 40 years of age. Their poor husbands will have to put up with them for almost another half-century without a single root. They will languish for decades henpecked and sexless wishing they were already dead. LOL! Why would anyone marry a white woman in Oz, knowing what he can look forward to after taking his vows?

[HandsomeSadist]

Found a Uni aged looking Thai girl advertising out of Ivanhoe, in a private apartment. Ad stated $130 for 30 mins.

I show up and the woman who lets me in is a skinny Chinese lady easily 60 yo. She greeted me with "one fifty half hour".

Fake photo. Uglier compared to photo. Wanted more money. Unbelievable.

When I called her out by showing her the advertisement photos she kept saying "money. Money. You pay me money".

I give her a piece of my mind and left without even flashing my wallet to her.

Don't cave to these old hags pretending to be young glamours.

HS.

[LostWithinDays]

Gday all,

This particular hotel has been mentioned a few times on various forums.

It has a couple of mainland auntie s working out of. All ready to snatch your hard earned.

They advertise on various forums promising the world but deliver nothing but attitude and bad breath.

Save for cash buddies, things can only get better.

Cheers lwd.

[Wathell]

Who has got done for breaking covid rules. A lot of fines handed out at massage parlors and brothels.

[ValueMonger]

The soon to be relieved from her duties Lisa Neville mentioned today that 40 fines were made on Tuesday in massage parlours. !!

[Dreamer4]

I sometimes thought about this idea of leaving everything in Australia and go to this BBFSCIP dreamland! I know this work colleague living in Perth and he did exactly this. Divorced in his early 60's, went to Philippines and now spent half a year there. He loved it and said that everything is cheap there. He eventually found this girl and brought her to Australia. He is till travelling back and forth though.

Last year, I had an opportunity to go for a work related trip to China. Extended the trip and spent 2 nights in Shanghai. First time in the city so it was difficult to get a good catch. Tried 3 places and all was below average. I guess it takes time to explore and 2 nights just wasn't enough.

The bottom line is it is hard leaving everything behind. Not easy to start a new life in a new country. Also need steady income as the pension is not going to be enough. And then we all eventually get to the stage when we can't do it any more, then what. Back to Australia and die a miserable death?

It's tough isn't it. I can't do it at the moment but I can see the pros and cons with each scenario. In the mean time, we just have to continue with what we've got!!

Another recently divorced friend of mine told me that Life Happiness = Expectation - Reality. We can't change Reality so if we lower our Expectation, we will be more Happy!


How depressing to hear that life ends at 40 years of age in The Land O' Plenty! With no more good roots to look forward to after their 40th birthdays, it is no wonder that many middle-aged Aussie lads abandon their families, livelihoods, and homes to relocate to Southeast Asia where there are endless numbers of nubile brown beauties eager to satisfy their every depraved appetite for a small fee. I guess you cannot blame the lads for fucking off to BBFSCIP Paradise upon realizing that they have another 40 years or so of life on the planet without a good root! This is especially true for the lads married to the white shrews who begin hating sex at 40 years of age. Their poor husbands will have to put up with them for almost another half-century without a single root. They will languish for decades henpecked and sexless wishing they were already dead. LOL! Why would anyone marry a white woman in Oz, knowing what he can look forward to after taking his vows?

[HandsomeSadist]

Found a huge titty Thai advertising on Skokka out of Glen Waverley.

Showed up and it was a old Chinese woman with implants. Tried to tell me she was Thai when she was speaking Mandarin into her WeChat.

Are we allowed to post the ads here so we can warn the punters as to who to avoid? I'm getting tired of these time wasters and liars.

HS.

[Wathell]

Found a huge titty Thai advertising on Skokka out of Glen Waverley.

Showed up and it was a old Chinese woman with implants. Tried to tell me she was Thai when she was speaking Mandarin into her WeChat.

Are we allowed to post the ads here so we can warn the punters as to who to avoid? I'm getting tired of these time wasters and liars.

HS.I've seen a few ads where the girls say no Chinese / Korean or whatever they claim to be. I often wonder if its a way so they don't get called out. Imagine saying you're Thai and then some Thai dude comes and speaks Thai to you and you stand there like wut?

[ValueMonger]

Found a huge titty Thai advertising on Skokka out of Glen Waverley.

Showed up and it was a old Chinese woman with implants. Tried to tell me she was Thai when she was speaking Mandarin into her WeChat.

Are we allowed to post the ads here so we can warn the punters as to who to avoid? I'm getting tired of these time wasters and liars.

HS.A great idea alasI think its its against the rules. But you could paste the link on here and then the guys can see the phone number and compare it to the one they're just about to ring. ?

On that note though, I rang an old contact last week after the lockdown the girl gave me usual speel, when you come etc asked the address it was Woolagong in NSW, so either moved or phone handed to another snake oil salesman.

[OnlyAGame]

The soon to be relieved from her duties Lisa Neville mentioned today that 40 fines were made on Tuesday in massage parlours. !!Apparently, establishments offering therapeutic or remedial massage are allowed to open but those offering relaxation massage are not. I don't know who decides what's what or how they decide it.

[Engine Driver]

Apparently, establishments offering therapeutic or remedial massage are allowed to open but those offering relaxation massage are not. I don't know who decides what's what or how they decide it.At the places which offer remedial massage, the owner will have some fake certificate hanging on her wall claiming that she has been trained in massage from some fake school. They will usually be acceptable to health insurance companies for HICAPS claims. Unfortunately, the dumb staff who work for her only have qualifications in HJ, TLHJ (topless handjob) and BSWHJ (body slide with handjob).

[HandsomeSadist]

A great idea alasI think its its against the rules. But you could paste the link on here and then the guys can see the phone number and compare it to the one they're just about to ring. ?

On that note though, I rang an old contact last week after the lockdown the girl gave me usual speel, when you come etc asked the address it was Woolagong in NSW, so either moved or phone handed to another snake oil salesman.Search "Serena" on skokka and you'll find it.

[Genuine Lotus]

I sometimes thought about this idea of leaving everything in Australia and go to this BBFSCIP dreamland! I know this work colleague living in Perth and he did exactly this. Divorced in his early 60's, went to Philippines and now spent half a year there. He loved it and said that everything is cheap there. He eventually found this girl and brought her to Australia. He is till travelling back and forth though.
The bottom line is it is hard leaving everything behind. Not easy to start a new life in a new country. Also need steady income as the pension is not going to be enough. And then we all eventually get to the stage when we can't do it any more, then what. Back to Australia and die a miserable death? Dreamer, you could be in dreamland if you are an old goat believing to go into pasture to a life of bliss in an unfamiliar country like the Philippines. The Chinese believe, a man who is left childless or is unfortunate to have never produced children becomes a "limbless tree".

When a fella is divorced or separated, usually his previous partner turns against him and uses his children as retribution against him. It's cruel and it's called family violence and the justice system turns a blind-eye in their favour. When you are on your last leg of your journey you don't need riches, but it helps, more importantly, your closeness with sons or daughters or family and friends who can support you. Don't be the old elephant that walks off into the jungle, lies down, can't get up and dies while the heard walks on. Often, divorcees find themselves with betrayed friends and their family pet as their best friend. All the best to you!

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[Kakariki]

Apparently, establishments offering therapeutic or remedial massage are allowed to open but those offering relaxation massage are not. I don't know who decides what's what or how they decide it.The last place I visited I walked in very stiff and left very relaxed, so it must have been a therapeutic or remedial massage.

[Engine Driver]

Some of the fake ads on Skokka are quite hilarious to read. A beautiful Jap girl with DCups offering her services for $150? Hahaha. And four types of blow jobs? WTF? Five years of learning Ingris in RWML and this is the best copy that the gang leaders can write. Hahaha. Don't fall for any of these ads, mongers. Once you go to the apartment in Box Hill or Glen Waverley, your dick will take control of your brain and you will end up fucking a 60 year old, Chinese grandma with saggy tits and garlic breathe. No amount of medication will help you erase that from your memory. You will be scarred for life. Hahaha.

https://au.skokka.com/escorts/melbourne/fabulous-service-great-body-37ap312179351/

[PilotPaul]

When a fella is divorced or separated, usually his previous partner turns against him and uses his children as retribution against him.
There are also many valid reasons why people go on to lead new lives. We don't know dreamer4's life position.

For me, pre-covid I did run away to Ph regularly. When travel opens up again I will return to my old haunts while maintaining my respectful life here. I have explored the idea of moving there and it is not my long term plan.

If the Member for Philippines can do it and retain his seat in the Senate, then I can surely maintain my milk bar income here while enjoying some RnR.

PP.

[Chocha Monger]

Dreamer, you could be in dreamland if you are an old goat believing to go into pasture to a life of bliss in an unfamiliar country like the Philippines. The Chinese believe, a man who is left childless or is unfortunate to have never produced children becomes a "limbless tree".

When a fella is divorced or separated, usually his previous partner turns against him and uses his children as retribution against him. It's cruel and it's called family violence and the justice system turns a blind-eye in their favour. When you are on your last leg of your journey you don't need riches, but it helps, more importantly, your closeness with sons or daughters or family and friends who can support you. Don't be the old elephant that walks off into the jungle, lies down, can't get up and dies while the heard walks on. Often, divorcees find themselves with betrayed friends and their family pet as their best friend. All the best to you!

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.Francis bacon said, "he that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief." The Chinese follow a very different set of rules compared to the violation that Aussies experience in family court. Aussies father children to serve as hostages for the ex-wife, labor for corporations, and a tax base for the government. The fortunate man is the one who lives for himself and not the reproductive prerogative of women and the state.

[Engine Driver]

Francis bacon said, "he that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief." The Chinese follow a very different set of rules compared to the violation that Aussies experience in family court. Aussies father children to serve as hostages for the ex-wife, labor for corporations, and a tax base for the government. The fortunate man is the one who lives for himself and not the reproductive prerogative of women and the state.By your definition, Grandpa Caramello was a very fortunate man indeed. He devoted his entire life to mongering in Micronesia and South East Asia, spreading his sperm with careless abandon among thousands of nubile, young nymphs. Total guilt free pleasure without the baggage the average monger carries. In over 40 years of mongering, he probably sired over 500 half cast bastard kids but never saw the need to marry nor acknowledge any of his offspring. He was always one step ahead of his conquests and was careful never to fall in love with any particular LBFM. In the end his hobby killed him. He died a lonely, penniless man in a tiny tin shack on the outskirts of Brisbane. His legacy is all those barefooted kids wandering around dirt poor villages in Asia still looking for their Aussie passports.

[Chocha Monger]

By your definition, Grandpa Caramello was a very fortunate man indeed. He devoted his entire life to mongering in Micronesia and South East Asia, spreading his sperm with careless abandon among thousands of nubile, young nymphs. Total guilt free pleasure without the baggage the average monger carries. In over 40 years of mongering, he probably sired over 500 half cast bastard kids but never saw the need to marry nor acknowledge any of his offspring. He was always one step ahead of his conquests and was careful never to fall in love with any particular LBFM. In the end his hobby killed him. He died a lonely, penniless man in a tiny tin shack on the outskirts of Brisbane. His legacy is all those barefooted kids wandering around dirt poor villages in Asia still looking for their Aussie passports.Grandfather Caramello was a legend! He fulfilled his biological function beyond Nature's wildest dreams. In his last days, he said that he enjoyed every minute he spent mongering without regret. He died in his own way after a half-century of relentless mongering and spreading his Aussie seed far and wide throughout Micronesia and Southeast Asia.

Just think of all the suckers who marry and spend their lifetimes trying to please the same old hen in a sexless marriage only to die alone anyway after she violates them in divorce court. Caramello beat them all! LOL!

[Genuine Lotus]

Francis bacon said, "he that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief." The Chinese follow a very different set of rules compared to the violation that Aussies experience in family court. Aussies father children to serve as hostages for the ex-wife, labor for corporations, and a tax base for the government. The fortunate man is the one who lives for himself and not the reproductive prerogative of women and the state.Choc; listen mate! That held during aristocratic and Renaissance times if you were born into a bloodline bubble; 99% of us are not. The world is vastly different now with JobSeeker and JobKeeper and a CentreLink milk bar income for some. The Milk bar mentality works in reverse here. If you worked hard and acquired personal wealth the system punishes and precludes you from an aged pension. A recent comparison made the discord between recipients on 22.5 K / pa for the aged pension and a SMSF with 1. 5 ML in a CBA TD earning 1. 0% pa = 15 K. So fella, LOL! Don't be disgruntled about your milk bar income, it easily out preforms SMSF's. Thanks Engine, we all need reminding not to let our hobby kill ourselves and die lonely and penniless in a tin shack here or the PI.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[DanTheMan]

Grandfather Caramello was a legend! He fulfilled his biological function beyond Nature's wildest dreams. In his last days, he said that he enjoyed every minute he spent mongering without regret. He died in his own way after a half-century of relentless mongering and spreading his Aussie seed far and wide throughout Micronesia and Southeast Asia.

Just think of all the suckers who marry and spend their lifetimes trying to please the same old hen in a sexless marriage only to die alone anyway after she violates them in divorce court. Caramello beat them all! LOL!I know when I retire, ill be doing the milk run to SE ASIA every chance I get. Nothing would make me happier than living out my retirement than boning women all day and night, without a care in the world.

People can me for being single, but I tell you, I'd rather life my life the way I want to, the real war, rather than living a lie as most do by claiming a happy marriage, yet cheating at any opportunity they get.

[Engine Driver]

If you worked hard and acquired personal wealth the system punishes and precludes you from an aged pension. A recent comparison made the discord between recipients on 22.5 K / pa for the aged pension and a SMSF with 1. 5 ML in a CBA TD earning 1. 0% pa = 15 K. So fella, LOL! Don't be disgruntled about your milk bar income, it easily out preforms SMSF's. Thanks Engine, we all need reminding not to let our hobby kill ourselves and die lonely and penniless in a tin shack here or the PI.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.There was an article by the financial planner Joseph Palmer & Sons a few months ago in The Australian that described something similar. Let's suppose your retirement nest egg was $2 million in stocks. Assuming 5% annual dividends, this would yield $100 k in income for the monger. After tax, that leaves $70,000. Now all that is going to get you in Melbourne or Sydney, provided you already owned your own home, is a life of genteel poverty. And a sexless one at that. OTOH, if the monger rented out his Australian home, relocated to Flipsville, then the income from the rental plus the dividend income would buy a nice retirement life. You could get an endless procession of nubile 18-22 year old hookers to visit you each day in your condo to polish your purple headed yoghurt slinger. You could also get as much BBFSCIP action as you want to ensure the Philippines population did not decline. You won't need to waste your retirement income on condoms.

The only drawback with this retirement plan is what the fuck do you do during the day time? Flipsville is a third world shit hole with dreadful infrastructure and inedible food. It is not like LOS. Most likely, the monger will fall in with the other expat retiree loser crowd and commence drinking cheap San Mig Pilsener from 10.00 am onwards and be in bed, totally plastered, by 8. 00 pm each night. He would be too drunk to get it up. This cycle would repeat 7 days a week.


I sometimes thought about this idea of leaving everything in Australia and go to this BBFSCIP dreamland! I know this work colleague living in Perth and he did exactly this. Divorced in his early 60's, went to Philippines and now spent half a year there. He loved it and said that everything is cheap there. He eventually found this girl and brought her to Australia. He is till travelling back and forth though.Everyone will know the reason why you are going to Flipsville. That is, to screw as many 18-22 year old LBFMs as you can. Despite your protestations that you are going there for scuba diving, snorkelling, Christian charity work or business opportunities, no one is going to believe you. You will be forever known as a dirty old man who preys on innocent girls. The people in Flipsville will also know why you are there. They will respect the size of your wallet, but not you. If you can cope with the social stigma and potential life time ostracism, then go for it!

[Chocha Monger]

I know when I retire, ill be doing the milk run to SE ASIA every chance I get. Nothing would make me happier than living out my retirement than boning women all day and night, without a care in the world.

People can me for being single, but I tell you, I'd rather life my life the way I want to, the real war, rather than living a lie as most do by claiming a happy marriage, yet cheating at any opportunity they get.True! What use is money without a good root? There is no such thing as a happy marriage when a man has to sneak out for a good root with the threat of losing all his wealth if caught. It is better to be free as a bird and root as many nubile tarts as you can, for life is short. Tin shed be damned! Misery loves company and the married lads want other halfwits to join them in their folly.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi all,

Can I live a life in the footsteps of grandfather caramello.

He sounds like a damn legend.

At my workplace here in sunny Melbourne we had a number of individuals who lived quite a similar life.

I do agree with all the chit chat about moving to Philippines.

And I for one will like to make it happen.

Who's coming with me, have just purchased a presale condo in Cebu so let's make it happen.

The Australia I used to know and love has long since disappeared and won't be coming back anytime soon in my opinion.

Cheers lwd.

Who's going to join me??


Grandfather Caramello was a legend! He fulfilled his biological function beyond Nature's wildest dreams. In his last days, he said that he enjoyed every minute he spent mongering without regret. He died in his own way after a half-century of relentless mongering and spreading his Aussie seed far and wide throughout Micronesia and Southeast Asia.

Just think of all the suckers who marry and spend their lifetimes trying to please the same old hen in a sexless marriage only to die alone anyway after she violates them in divorce court. Caramello beat them all! LOL!

[DanTheMan]

Hi all,

Can I live a life in the footsteps of grandfather caramello.

He sounds like a damn legend.

At my workplace here in sunny Melbourne we had a number of individuals who lived quite a similar life.

I do agree with all the chit chat about moving to Philippines.

And I for one will like to make it happen.

Who's coming with me, have just purchased a presale condo in Cebu so let's make it happen.

The Australia I used to know and love has long since disappeared and won't be coming back anytime soon in my opinion.

Cheers lwd.

Who's going to join me??I'll be there.

[Chocha Monger]

Hi all,

Can I live a life in the footsteps of grandfather caramello.

He sounds like a damn legend.

At my workplace here in sunny Melbourne we had a number of individuals who lived quite a similar life.

I do agree with all the chit chat about moving to Philippines.

And I for one will like to make it happen.

Who's coming with me, have just purchased a presale condo in Cebu so let's make it happen.

The Australia I used to know and love has long since disappeared and won't be coming back anytime soon in my opinion.

Cheers lwd.

Who's going to join me??Indeed, Grandfather Caramello was the Ned Kelly of mongering throughout Southeast Asia and Micronesia. The man was a freaking legend! He should be knighted as a hero of the Commonwealth, Sir Caramello. He never gave in to societal expectations and pressure to marry in order to gain imaginary respectability. He was an unrepentant monger through and through. All that ever mattered to him was the next root. Grandfather Caramello lived in a humble tin shack on the outskirts of Brisbane because he preferred to save every penny for his overseas mongering adventures. He cared very little for living pretentiously and taking on debt in Oz. Caramello was planning one last mongering hurrah to Southeast Asia when the Wuhan Reaper unexpectedly knocked him off his perch. He left behind a booty of $20,000 South Sea pesos hidden on the outskirts of Brisbane. I suspect Engine Driver is busy trying to find this treasure so he can take up the mantle and soldier on in the very large footsteps of the Aussie legend, Grandfather Caramello.

[Shazzam]

Everything you mention about the PH is so true. Angeles City is the most boring place during the day. Absolutely nothing on offer other than bar drinking and mongering and living there would be the worst. I watch a few Youtubers living there and their life looks like a miserable waste of time (apart from the fucking 18-20 year olds), and the girls just want to go to the Mall. Imagine that life 7 days a week, 365 a year! Even Subic Bay area is boring after a couple of days at what they call a beach. If I lived up there it would have to be on a more beautiful part of the country like Cebu, Leyte or Siargao. Siargao pre Covid was fast becoming a tourist hot spot. It would have been a place to open a small be&be type of place with a good kitchen and bar for non back packers. I reckon that would have been ok to live on. I also agree on the food. It is the worst in Asia by miles.

But then the flip side is, an endless stream of hot young and very affordable women.


There was an article by the financial planner Joseph Palmer & Sons a few months ago in The Australian that described something similar. Let's suppose your retirement nest egg was $2 million in stocks. Assuming 5% annual dividends, this would yield $100 k in income for the monger. After tax, that leaves $70,000. Now all that is going to get you in Melbourne or Sydney, provided you already owned your own home, is a life of genteel poverty. And a sexless one at that. OTOH, if the monger rented out his Australian home, relocated to Flipsville, then the income from the rental plus the dividend income would buy a nice retirement life. You could get an endless procession of nubile 18-22 year old hookers to visit you each day in your condo to polish your purple headed yoghurt slinger. You could also get as much BBFSCIP action as you want to ensure the Philippines population did not decline. You won't need to waste your retirement income on condoms.

The only drawback with this retirement plan is what the fuck do you do during the day time? Flipsville is a third world shit hole with dreadful infrastructure and inedible food. It is not like LOS. Most likely, the monger will fall in with the other expat retiree loser crowd and commence drinking cheap San Mig Pilsener from 10.00 am onwards and be in bed, totally plastered, by 8. 00 pm each night. He would be too drunk to get it up. This cycle would repeat 7 days a week.

Everyone will know the reason why you are going to Flipsville. That is, to screw as many 18-22 year old LBFMs as you can. Despite your protestations that you are going there for scuba diving, snorkelling, Christian charity work or business opportunities, no one is going to believe you. You will be forever known as a dirty old man who preys on innocent girls. The people in Flipsville will also know why you are there. They will respect the size of your wallet, but not you. If you can cope with the social stigma and potential life time ostracism, then go for it!

[LostWithinDays]

Helllo all,

Can somebody please enlighten me about.

Grandfather caramello.

Seems I thought some now retired work colleagues were legends in that regard, but they nothing on the grandfather.

So much to learn so little time so boring here in Melbourne.

Can't we open a strip of bars in Melbourne Ong chapel street same as Angeles city, goodness me half are empty anyhow.

Cheers lwd.


Indeed, Grandfather Caramello was the Ned Kelly of mongering throughout Southeast Asia and Micronesia. The man was a freaking legend! He should be knighted as a hero of the Commonwealth, Sir Caramello. He never gave in to societal expectations and pressure to marry in order to gain imaginary respectability. He was an unrepentant monger through and through. All that ever mattered to him was the next root. Grandfather Caramello lived in a humble tin shack on the outskirts of Brisbane because he preferred to save every penny for his overseas mongering adventures. He cared very little for living pretentiously and taking on debt in Oz. Caramello was planning one last mongering hurrah to Southeast Asia when the Wuhan Reaper unexpectedly knocked him off his perch. He left behind a booty of $20,000 South Sea pesos hidden on the outskirts of Brisbane. I suspect Engine Driver is busy trying to find this treasure so he can take up the mantle and soldier on in the very large footsteps of the Aussie legend, Grandfather Caramello.

[Dreamer4]

Hi folks, I've been busy with a project so only have a chance to check the last few posts now. I wish I could join #Lostwithindays and #Dantheman at Flipsville but I don't have the $2 million retirement nest like #EngineDriver. Life is not fair is it! My dream lifestyle would be a rotation between Australia and Flipville or somewhere in South East Asia, every 3 or 6 months. Enjoy the best of both worlds. Unfortunately I can't do this yet, so in the mean time, just have to keep on dreaming, dream dream dream.

Just on another note, re. Flipsville and BBFSCIP, what about STD? Is that a concern? How widespread is it? Just want to know just in case I make it there one day I know what to prepare.

[DanTheMan]

Hi folks, I've been busy with a project so only have a chance to check the last few posts now. I wish I could join #Lostwithindays and #Dantheman at Flipsville but I don't have the $2 million retirement nest like #EngineDriver. Life is not fair is it! My dream lifestyle would be a rotation between Australia and Flipville or somewhere in South East Asia, every 3 or 6 months. Enjoy the best of both worlds. Unfortunately I can't do this yet, so in the mean time, just have to keep on dreaming, dream dream dream.

Just on another note, re. Flipsville and BBFSCIP, what about STD? Is that a concern? How widespread is it? Just want to know just in case I make it there one day I know what to prepare.I suppose like anywhere else it's bound to be there. But if your rooting *****s then you will need to tarp up.

But in reality just hit any of the dating pages in fb or online (DIA) and your bound to run into a normal non working girl who after a couple of conversations will fall in love with you, think your the greatest thing since sliced bread, and be more than happy to jump in the sack with you because you have white skin.

Never bring them to AU though, because if you leave them there you wield the power because your a foreigner and thus am in their eyes rich.

[Engine Driver]

Helllo all,

Can somebody please enlighten me about.

Grandfather caramello.Grandpa Caramello was the perhaps the most focused, determined person I knew when it came the art of mongering. In his half-century of mongering in South East Asia and Micronesia, he probably bedded about 3,000 LBFMs. He sired hundreds of bastard children, since he never bothered with condoms and birth control pills were unheard of in the impoverished shitholes where he was king. He was so disciplined that he never once fell in love with any of his young victims and nor did he root any of them more than once. He didn't even bother with taking their names or phone numbers. Needless to say, he was not a romantic, long-term relationship type of guy.

Such was his addiction to BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA and BBBJCIM that he decided very early on his life that he would make his hobby his income producing job. How many of us will ever get an opportunity to own and operate businesses dedicated to mongering? Well, Grandpa Caramello established two businesses in his lifetime dedicated to mongering and managed to sell out of both of them in the nick of time, thus securing his future in retirement. Although quite an unsophisticated man with only a high school education, he was wise and frugal with his money and was able to retire to a small shack on the outskirts of Brisbane. He eschewed the usual trappings of a middle class existence, instead only spending his retirement savings on mongering trips abroad.

You're probably wondering how that wily operative got such an exalted name. If you or I went to Flipsville, we would need to pay around 2,000 peso for a root. A local in Flipsville needs to pay 200 peso for the same root. Well, old Grandpa beat us all. In the remote villages where he plied his trade, his currency was Caramello Koala confectionery. He would give one treat to each LBFM whom he rooted. The girls, when they bit into that delicious treat with its oozing caramel nectar, literally thought they were eating liquid gold. That worked out at 15 peso per root. Legend.

He told me once that even at the age of 80, he did not need Viagra! Getting an LBFM to sit on his lap was enough to ignite his passion and his octogenarian cock was pointing to the sun at a 45 degree angle in no time! He had so many narrow escapes as a result of sexual conquests, that it is a pity that it was the Wuhan Reaper who finally got him while he was stuck in his tin shack. I reckon LE wasn't far behind. If they finally proved what he had been up to, he might have been sharing a cell with the infamous Sir Ron Brierly!

[Genuine Lotus]

When I think back, PI for 1-2 wk is prob OK get in have your fun and get out. If on the other hand, you haven't much to look forward to in life and trying to make a life style out of drinking piss, wet tee-shirt competitions, womanising and rooting, it is doomed. The next day the same routine, over and over again, if you haven't scored by 9. 30 pm the left-overs will leave you with a sigma. 2020 YouTube videos say it all. Expatriates, retired US servicemen with beer guts, striving for the ultimate goal of one day owning a club or go-go bar in that depressing and condemned place Angeles City OMG!

A few years back I worked with a Pilipino Australian man who was on our office team. I made the mistake of mentioning my PI visits to him. He started an avalanche of ongoing and harassing dialogue stigmatised towards my life experiences in PI. I got on with him OK but it started to piss me off big time and nearly told him to shut the fuck up. Most people have forgotten the national Australian / Pilipino stigma that developed when Lan and Rose Hancock (his former Pilipino maid) married a rich WA mining magnate. For most, this was seen as the dirty old man marrying his naive gold-digging Pilipino maid one third his age; some might say lucky guy, I don't think so. That saga went on for decades and is still being fought out in the courts now. If ever there was a display that epitomised bad taste and excesses with a thousand shoes it was her. I'm not sure whether that stigma has healed in Australia but it certainly left a dreadful mark.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[Supmam]

I can't find it right now but there's a website where you can type in your current age and savings and super and find a place to live around the developing world for x numbers of years. It's one of those retire at 40 websites but I can't find it right now. Thailands isn't cheap butt here are plenty of places that your dollar will go far if you don't go mad from the monotony.


Hi folks, I've been busy with a project so only have a chance to check the last few posts now. I wish I could join #Lostwithindays and #Dantheman at Flipsville but I don't have the $2 million retirement nest like #EngineDriver. Life is not fair is it! My dream lifestyle would be a rotation between Australia and Flipville or somewhere in South East Asia, every 3 or 6 months. Enjoy the best of both worlds. Unfortunately I can't do this yet, so in the mean time, just have to keep on dreaming, dream dream dream.

Just on another note, re. Flipsville and BBFSCIP, what about STD? Is that a concern? How widespread is it? Just want to know just in case I make it there one day I know what to prepare.

[Chocha Monger]

When I think back, PI for 1-2 wk is prob OK get in have your fun and get out. If on the other hand, you haven't much to look forward to in life and trying to make a life style out of drinking piss, wet tee-shirt competitions, womanising and rooting, it is doomed. The next day the same routine, over and over again, if you haven't scored by 9. 30 pm the left-overs will leave you with a sigma. 2020 YouTube videos say it all. Expatriates, retired US servicemen with beer guts, striving for the ultimate goal of one day owning a club or go-go bar in that depressing and condemned place Angeles City OMG!

A few years back I worked with a Pilipino Australian man who was on our office team. I made the mistake of mentioning my PI visits to him. He started an avalanche of ongoing and harassing dialogue stigmatised towards my life experiences in PI. I got on with him OK but it started to piss me off big time and nearly told him to shut the fuck up. Most people have forgotten the national Australian / Pilipino stigma that developed when Lan and Rose Hancock (his former Pilipino maid) married a rich WA mining magnate. For most, this was seen as the dirty old man marrying his naive gold-digging Pilipino maid one third his age; some might say lucky guy, I don't think so. That saga went on for decades and is still being fought out in the courts now. If ever there was a display that epitomised bad taste and excesses with a thousand shoes it was her. I'm not sure whether that stigma has healed in Australia but it certainly left a dreadful mark.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.Once you mention visiting the Philippines to Flip expats in your country, they will instantly know that you went there to root the 18 to 22 year-old hookers. They know there is no other reason why foreigners visit the Philippines, as they themselves spent their entire lives trying to escape from it. Do not take the criticism from expat Flips personally. They also visit bars and brothels for BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS whenever they visit their homeland. Flip women are no better, as they visit so-called "boy bars" and pay young male prostitutes for a root. It is not uncommon for old Flip boilers to return to their home village to marry a much younger Pinoy after securing permanent residency and divorce graping the old white husband.

[DanTheMan]

Once you mention visiting the Philippines to Flip expats in your country, they will instantly know that you went there to root the 18 to 22 year-old hookers. They know there is no other reason why foreigners visit the Philippines, as they themselves spent their entire lives trying to escape from it. Do not take the criticism from expat Flips personally. They also visit bars and brothels for BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS whenever they visit their homeland. Flip women are no better, as they visit so-called "boy bars" and pay young male prostitutes for a root. It is not uncommon for old Flip boilers to return to their home village to marry a much younger Pinoy after securing permanent residency and divorce graping the old white husband.I've been to the Philippines twice, but it's been years since I've been. In all honesty, if you wanted to visit with no mongering, manila is OK for a stopover of a few nights.

Other than this the joint is way too Third World and in the big picture of things is a shithole.

There are nice beaches to visit but it surprises me that for a third world country the price of accomadation etc. Is outrageous and you will have the local workers hitting on you.

[LostWithinDays]

Cheers,

For enlighten ing me about the grandfather, seems I'm just a boy scout after all these years.

A couple of ex work colleagues had a similar habit not however in the same league as the grandfather however.

Rumour has it there is a big statue of the Grand Master as he was known here at Angeles international airport welcoming all mongers.

Personally I prefer the aunties over the younger girls but that's a personal choice.

Finally is subic Bay worth a visit?

Could someone advise please.

Looks like a interesting place.

Cheers always. Lwd.


Grandpa Caramello was the perhaps the most focused, determined person I knew when it came the art of mongering. In his half-century of mongering in South East Asia and Micronesia, he probably bedded about 3,000 LBFMs. He sired hundreds of bastard children, since he never bothered with condoms and birth control pills were unheard of in the impoverished shitholes where he was king. He was so disciplined that he never once fell in love with any of his young victims and nor did he root any of them more than once. He didn't even bother with taking their names or phone numbers. Needless to say, he was not a romantic, long-term relationship type of guy.

Such was his addiction to BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA and BBBJCIM that he decided very early on his life that he would make his hobby his income producing job. How many of us will ever get an opportunity to own and operate businesses dedicated to mongering? Well, Grandpa Caramello established two businesses in his lifetime dedicated to mongering and managed to sell out of both of them in the nick of time, thus securing his future in retirement. Although quite an unsophisticated man with only a high school education, he was wise and frugal with his money and was able to retire to a small shack on the outskirts of Brisbane. He eschewed the usual trappings of a middle class existence, instead only spending his retirement savings on mongering trips abroad.

[Goferring]

Finally is subic Bay worth a visit?

Could someone advise please.

Looks like a interesting place.

Cheers always. Lwd.There are girls of all moral compasses all over the Philippines. There was time that western mongers had to head to the recognized bar and red light areas. However, the internet has changed that and girls are looking for 'boyfriends' everywhere. The girls have also recognized this and a pretty girl can now earn a lot more online than she can onstage. Consequently the normal bar areas aren't a patch on what they were 5 or 10 years ago.

Check out the PH board for more info.

G.

[Supmam]

I only spent one night in Manila and four in cebu. I think Manila is a tough sell. Ten years ago it's what lower sukh is now. Overcrowded and polluted and expensive.

Cebu is a better place. Relaxed and fun. Would be a good place to retire.

One thing about the Philippines is unlike every other culture in Asia, the food is terrible. Unless your idea of food in Asia is hamburgers and American coffee.

I enjoyed getting attention in the workplace in cebu. If that's what you mean by hitting. Lots of young women working in call centres.


I've been to the Philippines twice, but it's been years since I've been. In all honesty, if you wanted to visit with no mongering, manila is OK for a stopover of a few nights.

Other than this the joint is way too Third World and in the big picture of things is a shithole.

There are nice beaches to visit but it surprises me that for a third world country the price of accomadation etc. Is outrageous and you will have the local workers hitting on you.

[Engine Driver]

I can't find it right now but there's a website where you can type in your current age and savings and super and find a place to live around the developing world for x numbers of years. It's one of those retire at 40 websites but I can't find it right now. Thailands isn't cheap butt here are plenty of places that your dollar will go far if you don't go mad from the monotony.This one only tells you how much super you need. I would think AUD $60 k a year would be enough to live very well in many poor countries in Asia, South America or Africa as a professional monger. Just get international medical insurance, with a couple of trips back to Australia a year for medical / dental work and to attend to any legal / accounting / tax type appointments.

There's a guy on the Philippines board who has done a spreadsheet with typical monger costs for a year. It's still there.

https://www.industrysuper.com/calculators-and-tools/calculators/

[Chocha Monger]

This one only tells you how much super you need. I would think AUD $60 k a year would be enough to live very well in many poor countries in Asia, South America or Africa as a professional monger. Just get international medical insurance, with a couple of trips back to Australia a year for medical / dental work and to attend to any legal / accounting / tax type appointments.

There's a guy on the Philippines board who has done a spreadsheet with typical monger costs for a year. It's still there.

https://www.industrysuper.com/calculators-and-tools/calculators/Grandfather Caramello was a very focused and determined monger but he never condoned taking up residence in poor countries in Southeast Asia to root the natives. You see, Caramello once took up residence in Micronesia, where he rooted hundreds of native girls. Unfortunately, one of the girls he rooted was the favorite young daughter of a powerful local chief. The chief and his headhunters came at night for Caramello. They shot fiery arrows into the roof of his straw hut and burned it to the ground. He was lucky to escape through a trap door in the floor and flee into the darkness of the tropical jungle. A few days later, he pulled off a daring escape flying aboard a Piper J-3 Cub to a neighboring island and boarding an airliner to Oz. Ever since, Grandfather Caramello decided that the best strategy for a professional monger is to fly in, fuck, and fly out.

[DingoD]

For giggles and to keep the forum ticking over in these baron pussy banging times for all of our favourite paid pastime was thinking how much money I am saving per month due to brothel closures and refusal to be lured into and scammed and robbed by Chinese fake ad runners on Locanto etc.

I am a brothel man, on average probably 3 time's a month and usually spend anywhere from $100 at say Rainbow Babes to $130 at Romantics / Red Silk for 30 minutes of fun with a nice 20 something year old play thing. So I guess I am saving approx $350 $400 per month!!

If you are happy to discuss and disclose be interested to hear from other about savings??

All I can say is when we are on the other side of this there are going to be some sore young ladies working at the places I mention above!! LOL.

Take care.

DingoD.

[DanTheMan]

For giggles and to keep the forum ticking over in these baron pussy banging times for all of our favourite paid pastime was thinking how much money I am saving per month due to brothel closures and refusal to be lured into and scammed and robbed by Chinese fake ad runners on Locanto etc.

I am a brothel man, on average probably 3 time's a month and usually spend anywhere from $100 at say Rainbow Babes to $130 at Romantics / Red Silk for 30 minutes of fun with a nice 20 something year old play thing. So I guess I am saving approx $350 $400 per month!!

If you are happy to discuss and disclose be interested to hear from other about savings??

All I can say is when we are on the other side of this there are going to be some sore young ladies working at the places I mention above!! LOL.

Take care.

DingoD.I reckon about $$300/ month.

I used to be a brothel man but this year have turned my attention to cheap Chinese rub and tugs where $80 gets me what I want instead of $240 / session at a brothel for an hour.

[Supmam]

120 to 240 pcm.

Although I frequented only one brothel and a few illegal rnt, I still got a thrill from a BBBJ and more at bayside until recently. The poor new talent never matched to this places golden age of Cici Anna and Gina all available for months on end. So the impact of no reliably good rnt (sisi in keys Rd moorabbin was excellent) and lack of talent at bayside meant my spend was already dropping pre corona.


For giggles and to keep the forum ticking over in these baron pussy banging times for all of our favourite paid pastime was thinking how much money I am saving per month due to brothel closures and refusal to be lured into and scammed and robbed by Chinese fake ad runners on Locanto etc.

I am a brothel man, on average probably 3 time's a month and usually spend anywhere from $100 at say Rainbow Babes to $130 at Romantics / Red Silk for 30 minutes of fun with a nice 20 something year old play thing. So I guess I am saving approx $350 $400 per month!!

If you are happy to discuss and disclose be interested to hear from other about savings??

All I can say is when we are on the other side of this there are going to be some sore young ladies working at the places I mention above!! LOL.

Take care.

DingoD.

[HandsomeSadist]

Do any punters here know the inner workings of how RNT's work?

How much the house keeps? I grew tired of the women always saying "shop keep $30, you need pay me more".

And do these businesses clean up? Disregarding the tax evasion that occurs.

HS.

[Engine Driver]

Do any punters here know the inner workings of how RNT's work?

How much the house keeps? I grew tired of the women always saying "shop keep $30, you need pay me more".

And do these businesses clean up? Disregarding the tax evasion that occurs.

HS.The shop usually keeps half of the base massage fee. Any tips the girls earn for HJ, BJ or FS are all for the girls to keep. Where the girls have been brought into work off gambling debts in their home countries, the shop will take all of the base massage fee to cover the debt, accommodation and travel costs.

Most of the RnTs are fronts for other illegal operations, like immigration racketeering, money laundering of drug profits etc.

[DanTheMan]

Do any punters here know the inner workings of how RNT's work?

How much the house keeps? I grew tired of the women always saying "shop keep $30, you need pay me more".

And do these businesses clean up? Disregarding the tax evasion that occurs.

HS.One I used to go too, used to be 50/50. Any extras the girl kept.

Don't believe their Bullshit.

[Genuine Lotus]

And you have proof of this? Or just making up stuff?
Indonesia would be trying hard to report it. The sooner you report, the more you report the more assistance.
I have made no changes tot my travel plans and in fact have just booked a holiday to Bali because it is on sale.
2020 is a year for travel while the rest of the people stay home hoarding toilet paper.Mate, I'm not sure what your plans for Bali are, but I saw TV footage recently showing the place so crippled for lack of tourism that they forced it to open but only to Indonesian nationals and Chinese, not my cup a tea. I agree with Croc 100% I wouldn't trust a word that a Muslim nation claims as their infection rate let alone their PPE procedures, more like the Indian security students here.

LOL, I'the rather be safe, warm and dry in Melbourne under stage 4 doing my BAS and tax returns for the ATO.

Happy hunting and stay punting.

Lotus.

[PilotPaul]

Mate, I'm not sure what your plans for Bali are, but I saw TV footage recently showing the place so crippled for lack of tourism that they forced it to open but only to Indonesian nationals and Chinese, not my cup a tea. I agree with Croc 100% I wouldn't trust a word that a Muslim nation claims as their infection rate let alone their PPE procedures, more like the indian security students here.

LOL, I'the rather be safe, warm and dry in Melbourne under stage 4 doing my BAS and tax returns for the ATO.

Happy hunting and stay punting.

Lotus.My post was from March. Got a refund on my airfare and converted it into local shop visits.

[AussieGaigin]

Do any punters here know the inner workings of how RNT's work?

How much the house keeps? I grew tired of the women always saying "shop keep $30, you need pay me more".

And do these businesses clean up? Disregarding the tax evasion that occurs.

HS.So how much did you pay that time? Most shops seem to take 40-60% of the fee. I've heard some shops ask for up to 20% of the tip.

[Pahllus Maximus]

There are various agendas. They help girls get visas with bullshit colleges that are just visa mills but donate heavily to politicians to keep the racket going. Many pollies are secret shareholders via trusts. Many supply girls to pollies as well. They charge the girls a fee to facilitate visa red tape and generating paperwork.

The girsls do get $ for sex, but they are bait in a bigger scam.

The biggest money laundering is at casinos and pokies. No. 1 goto. Crown for example has a Board of directors of roughly 50% of each party. They keep it that way with endless inquiries that go nowhere (as intended). On Vietnamese guy was spending so much they staff had to wear gloves to not get high on notes with traces of cocaine etc. Car dealerships are another, but again lobby money. Both parties are against a national anti-corruption body with real teeth and well paid and motivated staff. Funny about that. It makes law enforcement a waste of time when those that make the laws leave gaping holes (actually valleys). Both parties spend roughly a $1 Am a week on getting their brand re-elected, that cash has to come from somewhere. The pollies demand all sorts of stuff, apartments sold off the plan to relatives and shills undervalue for zoning decisions, cash payments, freebies and property or shares overseas (one current cabinet member got millions from UNAOIL) via various front trusts and companies. The list is endless. Quite a few girls are also smurfs at the casinos / pokies. This creates clean money, especially with fly-in-fly-out smurfs. Brothels also wash their undeclared cash this way. Variations include paying bank debts in small amounts in cash. Others run up pretend debts with companies they claim to have invested in that go into liquidation and the "investors" claim a tax deduction. All those marble foyer fancy offices have to be paid for. Follow the money. And all those $50 m plus houses. You really believe they paid tax on that?

There are so many ways, most involve trusts, and the ATO will not touch trusts as this is politically off limits. It also disguises ownership, and tax secrecy laws make subpoenas useless. Successive pollies have made sure it stays that way so they can be sanctimonious and still get backend. This is why getting elected is bitterly fought over. Its not politics, it is a valuable racket like being made in the mafia. Mandatory preferential voting guarantees a winner to the two major brands that are an oligopoly.

In fact, besides PAYE earners, paying tax is optional, as many listed companies show with "sales offices" in Singapore and much else.

There are so many ways, all involves trusts, and the ATO will not touch trusts as this is politically off limits. In fact, besides PAYE earners, paying tax is optional, as many listed companies show with "sales offices" in Singapore and much else.

Life is very unfair and getting worse. Wages have stagnated but (tax free) capital speculation has soared. Pollies no longer resign but tough it out, knowing people have the attention span of a moth and they or the competition will always win, then just like in cricket, the bowlers with change for batting. Even in opposition money is to be had. They way to play is not to play or get smart to the myths, lies, propaganda and bullshit and why both parties are violently against anti-corruption measure. Look at Auburn NSW, Casey in Melbourne, water rights and Bangeroo in Sydney, open fraud on the public.

[HandsomeSadist]

So how much did you pay that time? Most shops seem to take 40-60% of the fee. I've heard some shops ask for up to 20% of the tip.I paid $50 for a quick BBBJ, no massage. Was in and out within 10 mins. She wanted $100, then $80, then $70 but I remained firm on the $50.

HS.

[Genuine Lotus]

There are various agendas. They help girls get visas with bullshit colleges that are just visa mills but donate heavily to politicians to keep the racket going. Many pollies are secret shareholders via trusts. Many supply girls to pollies as well. They charge the girls a fee to facilitate visa red tape and generating paperwork.Thanks for the spurt of info. Most people realise, you don't need professional or formal credentials to be a politician; in fact, it helps if you don't have any. Our previous Liberal foreign minister Alexander Downer is the only one that comes to mind that underwent proper university training at Prime Minister School in England to enter Australian politics. He was good, however, he was too honest and soft for the harsh realities that came with back-bench brawling and commercial deceit with politics. I think he cottoned-on to join Hillary & Bill Clinton's movement doing motivational talks (50 K a talk) to would be entrepreneurs wanting to make their killing to make millions.

Happy hunting and stay punting.

Lotus.

[LostWithinDays]

Morning all,

Had a conversation at work recently about all these massage shops which have been shut here in Melbourne.

Since most of these shops operate on a Cash basis then none of the girls will be eligible for job keeper.

Would it be mostly all of the tips they received they can keep depending on the shop owner I suppose these massage shops we all know are scams of various sorts and are no different to Any other business screwing the economy by not declaring any income.

Where have all the mainland Auntie s disappeared to?

They must be doing it tough cannot even fly home to Guangzhou.

Oh dear.

Lwd.


So how much did you pay that time? Most shops seem to take 40-60% of the fee. I've heard some shops ask for up to 20% of the tip.

[Pedros Needs]

Having had a couple of shops over time I can tell you the rates vary from shop to shop.

Where the normal HJ service is on offer, when the customer pays the $50 for example up front the shop will usually keep $30, staff $20 in the basis on most occasions they will have a $20 or $30 minimum tip in the room. (some maybe do a 50/50 $25 each in the knowledge the tips maybe greater in the room).

In busier times they could make pretty good tax free $- 6 clients a day, reasonably expect a minimum of $300, not taking in to consideration any extra service or tips they secured in the room.

Most I imagine would not be entitled to any Gov support, so will be plenty of them looking for some income, but as we all know arranging that in the current circumstances is nearly impossible in Melbourne at this time.

What is for certain is that many will not reopen after the lock down, as no rent will be paid. I am sure many landlords will understand the need to be patient, not having rent paid, but the care factor for many of these operators will be Zero.

Many I am certain will do a runner, break the lease and worry about the consequences later. Already see a couple of examples over my way (Bayside) with all the shitty bedding and odds sitting out the front of the shop for collection.

Pedro.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi Pedro,

Interesting observation.

I have a contact who lives out west, having spoken to her last week she seems very worried to have any visitors over for some action. I told her that I have a Golden ticket travel pass due to the nature of my job but she is worried I might be seen approaching her house, actually I got the impression she may have been busted recently the way she was speaking.

She mentioned some time ago the massage shop she used to work at which has been shuttered of late had received some state government (I assume) funding for rent relief.

How would this be justified if it's mostly a cash economy in which they operate.

I think your correct a lot will do a runner and close up only to reopen in another premises.

Cheeeers. Lwd.


Having had a couple of shops over time I can tell you the rates vary from shop to shop.

Where the normal HJ service is on offer, when the customer pays the $50 for example up front the shop will usually keep $30, staff $20 in the basis on most occasions they will have a $20 or $30 minimum tip in the room. (some maybe do a 50/50 $25 each in the knowledge the tips maybe greater in the room).

In busier times they could make pretty good tax free $- 6 clients a day, reasonably expect a minimum of $300, not taking in to consideration any extra service or tips they secured in the room..

[Engine Driver]

Hi Pedro,

Interesting observation.

I have a contact who lives out west, having spoken to her last week she seems very worried to have any visitors over for some action. I told her that I have a Golden ticket travel pass due to the nature of my job but she is worried I might be seen approaching her house, actually I got the impression she may have been busted recently the way she was speaking.

She mentioned some time ago the massage shop she used to work at which has been shuttered of late had received some state government (I assume) funding for rent relief.

How would this be justified if it's mostly a cash economy in which they operate.

I think your correct a lot will do a runner and close up only to reopen in another premises.

Cheeeers. Lwd.They are properly registered Pty Ltd businesses with ASIC, hence will qualify for handouts. They just have "no income", despite having hundreds of horny mongers going through their doors in the good old days. Like all cash only businesses, they just claim "business no good" when it comes to completing their BAS return. LOL.

[Wathell]

They just under report significantly. As long as you have receipts and statements an ato audit is no problem.

[Shazzam]

I see a thai lady in the city a bit who worked in Coburg and Essendon shops and she told me recently most of the thai girls all flew back home instead of staying here. All are students who did a few shifts are&T a week to make some extra coin on top of restaurant work. She also told me most won't ever return.


Morning all,

Had a conversation at work recently about all these massage shops which have been shut here in Melbourne.

Since most of these shops operate on a Cash basis then none of the girls will be eligible for job keeper.

Would it be mostly all of the tips they received they can keep depending on the shop owner I suppose these massage shops we all know are scams of various sorts and are no different to Any other business screwing the economy by not declaring any income.

Where have all the mainland Auntie s disappeared to?

They must be doing it tough cannot even fly home to Guangzhou.

Oh dear.

Lwd.

[PaulAllen479]

Hey guys,

Newbie to this forum. Seems to be a godsend. Getting very frustrated with this scam we're going through (if you'll let me be honest), and after some relief. I used to visit the local places along Nepean Hwy, but they're all closed.

I'm in the Bayside area. Anything you can put me in touch with? Feel free to DM me.

[AussieGaigin]

Hey guys,

Newbie to this forum. Seems to be a godsend. Getting very frustrated with this scam we're going through (if you'll let me be honest), and after some relief. I used to visit the local places along Nepean Hwy, but they're all closed.

I'm in the Bayside area. Anything you can put me in touch with? Feel free to DM me.You don't appear to have DM activated. Have you read the FAQs?

Suggest you read back through a few posts for the current situation.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Francis bacon said, "he that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief." The Chinese follow a very different set of rules compared to the violation that Aussies experience in family court. Aussies father children to serve as hostages for the ex-wife, labor for corporations, and a tax base for the government. The fortunate man is the one who lives for himself and not the reproductive prerogative of women and the state.Not only that, the communists taxed non-reproduction (back in vogue in Poland) and other western countries indirectly impose a breeding tax in the form or credits and property tax (that should accurately labelled "reproduction school tax") and other hand outs, and also shit loads of happily ever after propaganda, divorce court and and keeping prostitution restricted to channel sex drive into bundled dependency and forced over-subscription in expensive or impossible contract of marriage to perishable female charms. George Micheal nailed it in June 1983:

Young Guns,
Having some fun.
Crazy ladies keep 'them on the run.
Wise guys realize there's danger in emotional ties.
See me, single and free.
No tears, no fears, what I want to be.
One, two, take a look at you.
Death by matrimony!

Hey sucker,
(What the hell's got into you?
Hey sucker!
(Now there's nothing you can do.).
A married man? You're out of your head.
Sleepless nights, on an H. P. Bed.
A daddy by the time you're twenty-one.
If your happy with a nappy then you're in for fun.

But you're here-.
And you're there.
Well there's guys like you just everywhere.
Looking back on the good old days?
Well this young gun says CAUTION PAYS!

Grandpa Caramello sounds pretty disconnected from people, a sort of sad loner. I seem this type in the tropics, kind of in a bubble, though in his individual case, I could be wrong. A lot of them suicide when they figure all they have is a rent-a-hole and nothing to do the other 23 hours of the day and no significant and meaningful cultural and social support network. Mongering is fine and fun, but is icing on top of structure rather than a substitute. I suspect for many mongering is an escape rather than a joy.

Siring hundreds of bastard kids is hardly a good thing: he may as well be a farmyard animal. And the disease risk to others. That also assumes the girls were consenting legal age.

Dying in a tin shack in Briz-Vegas sounds pretty awful end in an awful town in a corrupt State with deeply entrenched and seriously bent government staffers. This was a place with south pacific slavery and has terrible racism. Things have gotten far worse since the Fitzgerald days in 1980's. Cops are terribly bent, like a current ex-cop now a cabinet member with tens of millions in unexplained property wealth that is a classic "Queensland" success story. He is joined by Queensland's member for Manilla and Adani cash, along with a conga line of state pollies. No doubt his colleague can approve visas on the spot to keep supply going for the brothels a family trust disguises, that add to to CAPEX value that is tax free. And that is before the documented bribery of the judges.

It is common for Brizzo WG beings blackmailed, forced to pay bribes, pimped out and abused by Qld cops who run a drug ring on the side. Cop salary is a loss leader in the same way politicians real business is getting bribed, though it is peanuts compared to their political paymasters. Mongers can have an ethical choice just over the border rather than supporting this rotting corpse of a pretend responsible government.

[Chocha Monger]

Grandpa Caramello sounds pretty disconnected from people, a sort of sad loner. I seem this type in the tropics, kind of in a bubble, though in his individual case, I could be wrong. A lot of them suicide when they figure all they have is a rent-a-hole and nothing to do the other 23 hours of the day and no significant and meaningful cultural and social support network. Mongering is fine and fun, but is icing on top of structure rather than a substitute. I suspect for many mongering is an escape rather than a joy.

Siring hundreds of bastard kids is hardly a good thing: he may as well be a farmyard animal.Was Grandpa Caramello disconnected from people? Yes! That was the freaking genius of his existence. He never developed obligations to anyone or anything. He was truly free! Caramello was a true lone wolf to the end. He was hardly the sad sort. He spent his life rooting as long as his age and health permitted. You see, Caramello figured out quite early in life that people are very unreliable and untrustworthy, especially family. Hence, he had no need for one of his own. Furthermore, using his superior intellect, he deduced that all human relationships are transactional and subject to change given the right financial incentives. Caramello found this was particularly true in male-female relationships. Therefore, he rejected romanticism and the marriage institution. He preferred to pay for what he wanted with cash or preferably Caramello Koalas. What he wanted was a good root without emotional entanglements.

Siring hundreds of bastard kids throughout Southeast Asia and Micronesia is something hardly limited to Grandpa Caramello. There have been documentaries made about the thousands of Aussie bastards sired by elderly Aussie mongers in Angeles City, Philippines. One may question the morality of it but from an evolutionary point-of-view, Caramello fulfilled his biological purpose on the planet with resounding success before expiring.

Dying in a tin shack in Brisbane is hardly the glamorous end we all imagine. However, how many elderly Aussies and Yanks die in a first class mansion surrounded by doting kids and loving grandchildren as they draw their last breath? The truth is most will die alone in a hospice drugged out of their minds unable to tell pudding from poot. The children and grandchildren are too busy eking out a living and keeping up with social media to come spoon porridge into dear old grandpa's drooling mouth. In the end, does it really matter where you die alone?

[LostWithinDays]

Hi there all from sunny Melbourne.

I think there is a bit of grandpa in all of us, at times over in flipsville we get bored and wonder why we visit.

To be honest sometimes that's how I have felt there at times, however is it escapism or just having fun partying in another country of which is simply not going to happen here or from whatever other country your from.

Seems grandpa didn't have any kiddies, I think it's true in our final days, kids nowadays be them your own or distant relatives are only concerned for them selves and waiting for your inheritance.

So let's all plan for upcoming fun over there shortly when things settle down.

Cheers. Lwd.


Was Grandpa Caramello disconnected from people? Yes! That was the freaking genius of his existence. He never developed obligations to anyone or anything. He was truly free! Caramello was a true lone wolf to the end. He was hardly the sad sort. He spent his life rooting as long as his age and health permitted. You see, Caramello figured out quite early in life that people are very unreliable and untrustworthy, especially family. Hence, he had no need for one of his own. Furthermore, using his superior intellect, he deduced that all human relationships are transactional and subject to change given the right financial incentives. Caramello found this was particularly true in male-female relationships. Therefore, he rejected romanticism and the marriage institution. He preferred to pay for what he wanted with cash or preferably Caramello Koalas. What he wanted was a good root without emotional entanglements.

Siring hundreds of bastard kids throughout Southeast Asia and Micronesia is something hardly limited to Grandpa Caramello. There have been documentaries made about the thousands of Aussie bastards sired by elderly Aussie mongers in Angeles City, Philippines.

[HandsomeSadist]

Has anyone been to a regular spot of there's during the current lockdown? I'm sure some women are working by phone appointment only given some live in the premises of the business.

HS.

[Dreamer4]

No I haven't. There are a few ads on Skokka but when I thought about it, the risk of being pulled over and asked where I am going is a bit high so I haven't ventured anywhere yet. $1,600 is a hefty fine!


Has anyone been to a regular spot of there's during the current lockdown? I'm sure some women are working by phone appointment only given some live in the premises of the business.

HS.

[Dreamer4]

We definitely have a grandpa in all of us! I am thinking it is more an escapism rather than a full time thing like Grandpa Caramello though. I don't mind holidaying in Flipsville for a few weeks a year but can't image myself living there full time.


Hi there all from sunny Melbourne.

I think there is a bit of grandpa in all of us, at times over in flipsville we get bored and wonder why we visit.

To be honest sometimes that's how I have felt there at times, however is it escapism or just having fun partying in another country of which is simply not going to happen here or from whatever other country your from.

Seems grandpa didn't have any kiddies, I think it's true in our final days, kids nowadays be them your own or distant relatives are only concerned for them selves and waiting for your inheritance.

So let's all plan for upcoming fun over there shortly when things settle down.

Cheers. Lwd.

[Kakariki]

Has anyone been to a regular spot of there's during the current lockdown? I'm sure some women are working by phone appointment only given some live in the premises of the business..Yes no problem, few of my usual's are still doing bookings.

[ValueMonger]

Yes no problem, few of my usuals are still doing bookings.Haven't done anything much since Level 4 to be honest, go a regular RnT Girl, she stays clothed but knows her way round a cock to be sure, pay $150 for 1. 5 hrs, two pops and a great massage, sometimes she throws in a bit kinky stuff like twisting the nipples and a choke hold for second pop.

Going to try and hit her up this week, but she's had no punters since Level 4 but is feeling the pain of no furlough and no money. When Restrictions lifted she said she might take on some more people as just regulars at minute.

Any FS providers who aren't snake oil salesman would be appreciated so DM me if possible.

[Polyamorist]

Francis bacon said, "he that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune; for they are impediments to great enterprises, either of virtue or mischief." The Chinese follow a very different set of rules compared to the violation that Aussies experience in family court. Aussies father children to serve as hostages for the ex-wife, labor for corporations, and a tax base for the government. The fortunate man is the one who lives for himself and not the reproductive prerogative of women and the state.Salaam Aussies,

This started in the US. The State formed an alliance with women to keep men fixed to the corporate train tracks they are supposed to run along. This system was quickly pushed to the rest of the world, including Australia. Marriage had formerly provided some benefits to a man, but those rights were stripped away.

I think it's important not to hate women: they are just like mirrors of their environment. In our society they have been brainwashed into becoming jailors of men. But in the right environment they can be angels not demons.

[Mr Everest65]

Hey guys,

Newbie to this forum. Seems to be a godsend. Getting very frustrated with this scam we're going through (if you'll let me be honest), and after some relief. I used to visit the local places along Nepean Hwy, but they're all closed.

I'm in the Bayside area. Anything you can put me in touch with? Feel free to DM me.Newbie here as well. PaulAllen479 What is your go-to along Nepean Hwy? Will be visiting soon when things clear up down there.

[Chocha Monger]

Salaam Aussies,

This started in the US. The State formed an alliance with women to keep men fixed to the corporate train tracks they are supposed to run along. This system was quickly pushed to the rest of the world, including Australia. Marriage had formerly provided some benefits to a man, but those rights were stripped away.

I think it's important not to hate women: they are just like mirrors of their environment. In our society they have been brainwashed into becoming jailors of men. But in the right environment they can be angels not demons.Unfortunately, the environment that you have in mind only exists in some cult communes in the West. At least in Oz, men have the option of limiting their dealings with women to paid roots and illicit rub-and-tugs. Brothels and rub-and-tug joints provide safe and positive environments for Aussie men to interact with women.

[Pedros Needs]

Two illegal houses shut down one in Ormond and one in Clayton.

A number of WL arrested as well as 14 punters.

May pay to think twice before taking the risk in the current climate.

Pedro.

[Engine Driver]

Unfortunately, the environment that you have in mind only exists in some cult communes in the West. At least in Oz, men have the option of limiting their dealings with women to paid roots and illicit rub-and-tugs. Brothels and rub-and-tug joints provide safe and positive environments for Aussie men to interact with women.Paid roots in legal brothels and BJs in illicit rub and tug joints keep the social fabric together and the economy running nicely.

[Genuine Lotus]

Two illegal houses shut down one in Ormond and one in Clayton.
A number of WL arrested as well as 14 punters. May pay to think twice before taking the risk in the current climate.
Pedro.Yeah, I heard the same news on Sunday morning ABC radio. They were quite open with their news reporting and said the 14 punters most waiting in their cars copped a 650 $ fine. It's not the fine that hurts but the criminal record you carry for violating compliance orders.

Lotus.

[DingoD]

So on top of the scams, the self disgust and indignity of being fleeced by a foul breath, saggy old Chinese nanna, there is also the chance of the outcome GL rightly spells out below! Gents-Park it, ride it out, save them hard earned $$$ and let's enjoy ourselves with some decent tight bodied 20 something year olds when this is all over-and you won't have a Police record either!! WIN WIN.

Stay safe gents.


Yeah, I heard the same news on Sunday morning ABC radio. They were quite open with their news reporting and said the 14 punters most waiting in their cars copped a 650 $ fine. It's not the fine that hurts but the criminal record you carry for violating compliance orders.

Lotus.

[Martinxp]

Yeah, I heard the same news on Sunday morning ABC radio. They were quite open with their news reporting and said the 14 punters most waiting in their cars copped a 650 $ fine. It's not the fine that hurts but the criminal record you carry for violating compliance orders.

Lotus.Well they can always talk it through with the wife. She will understand about the criminal record.

[BrizLad]

Well they can always talk it through with the wife. She will understand about the criminal record.I wonder how much of these will be forgotten until it comes time to eventually go on the family trip to Disneyland USA and that tricky visa questions. "Do you have a criminal conviction?

[Chocha Monger]

I wonder how much of these will be forgotten until it comes time to eventually go on the family trip to Disneyland USA and that tricky visa questions. "Do you have a criminal conviction?It is not such a big deal. USA Immigration almost expects all Aussies to have one.

[AussieGaigin]

I wonder how much of these will be forgotten until it comes time to eventually go on the family trip to Disneyland USA and that tricky visa questions. "Do you have a criminal conviction?For anyone coming into Australia, Immigration is only interested in jail terms over a certain length. Not sure how it works in other countries.

[BrizLad]

For anyone coming into Australia, Immigration is only interested in jail terms over a certain length. Not sure how it works in other countries.There are many people getting involved in the justice system than would otherwise be.

The Qld cops are enjoying having everyone needing to pass through a check point.

[Stykler]

The Qld cops are enjoying having everyone needing to pass through a check point.Reminds me of the Joh days, and the cheap hookers out of Fortitude Valley's gambling dens.

[ValueMonger]

Senior members if they need to satisfy their itch I have been contacted on Wechat and Instagram from a couple of AMP providers both in Inner North of City, just outside my 5 km radius, seems like they both operate back door policy re. Book, and the they open backdoor, as both are on quite busy roads otherwise, bit tricky for me, and some are open till 11 pm, which I can't see is possible with lockdown around? One Thai and one PRC from what I can gather no mention of money and services, but both said the girls like to have fun, treat that as a yes I presume.

Happy to give details to Senior members who contribute positively to the forum by PM.

[HandsomeSadist]

So on top of the scams, the self disgust and indignity of being fleeced by a foul breath, saggy old Chinese nanna, there is also the chance of the outcome GL rightly spells out below! Gents-Park it, ride it out, save them hard earned $$$ and let's enjoy ourselves with some decent tight bodied 20 something year olds when this is all over-and you won't have a Police record either!! WIN WIN.

Stay safe gents.Mate given the way this city and state is being run ATM, I doubt many international students will ever come back here.

HS.

[Engine Driver]

Mate given the way this city and state is being run ATM, I doubt many international students will ever come back here.

HS.Oh they will be back! Don't you worry about me that hahaha! Unless their daddy is a CCP member or their uncle owns a factory producing plastic dog turd to sell on Amazon, they have no choice. Their insatiable appetite for $1500 Gucci sneakers and million dollar dog boxes in Glen Waverley will ensure they keep coming. In fact, they're already on the start line, one way ticket in hand, waiting for Dictator Dan to fire the gun. Rest assured gentlemen, those nubile nymphs will continue to provide you with $100 HJs as long as Gucci keeps producing that ridiculous shit.

[DingoD]

Mate given the way this city and state is being run ATM, I doubt many international students will ever come back here.

HS.Maybe I'm a bit more either optimistic or realistic, so with that being said I think there will still be a vast amount of SE Asian students and younger travellers who take advantage of the chance to earn some good money to be made far away from any family knowledge of how that money is being generated, so I think we should be ok. And the flip side, if all we are left with are the scamming Aunties then off I go to Cambodia / Thailand for genuine fun- I ain't dropping a cent on the Chinese Aunties!

Stay safe.

DingoD.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi all,

I'm with dingo let's all boycott these horrible aunties, when travel is allowed and the time will come next year, we can all cut loose.

Cheers all and take care.

Lwd.


Maybe I'm a bit more either optimistic or realistic, so with that being said I think there will still be a vast amount of SE Asian students and younger travellers who take advantage of the chance to earn some good money to be made far away from any family knowledge of how that money is being generated, so I think we should be ok. And the flip side, if all we are left with are the scamming Aunties then off I go to Cambodia / Thailand for genuine fun- I ain't dropping a cent on the Chinese Aunties!

Stay safe.

DingoD.

[Ercildale]

Mate given the way this city and state is being run ATM, I doubt many international students will ever come back here.

HS.Guys,

One thing that might be a permanent change when we can go back on the prowl, is that all our favorite RnT establishments may well insist on wearing masks. Both us and the girls. That's going to take a bit of enjoyment out of the equation.

[DonaldLj]

Just more of an FYI. It seems the AMP in St Alban is gone. There was a story in the Herald Sun about a month ago, on a raid on an AMP run from a house. Tried ringing the mamasan, Linda, several times now but 1 number seems disconnected and the other number goes straight to voicemail. Its a shame because Linda had genuine young girls for several years now. Another AMP is still operating but unfortunately their girls are mid 30's at the youngest.

[Genuine Lotus]

Guys,
One thing that might be a permanent change when we can go back on the prowl, is that all our favorite RnT establishments may well insist on wearing masks. Both us and the girls. That's going to take a bit of enjoyment out of the equation.I had a much more sinister vision and that's an AMG walking in the room wearing full PPE gear and disposable gloves wanting 100 $ up front to do the good deed.

Happy hunting and post covid punting.

Lotus.

[DanTheMan]

I'm sick of this shit.

Nothing will open soon, Chairman Dan won't allow it. You can forget international travel for at least a year.

I know one place but they'll send me some shit girl.

Anyone knows any open places out west, pm me.

[Kakariki]

If your mongering around Clyde or Clyde North, be careful, there out there looking for you.

[OlderPlayer]

If your mongering around Clyde or Clyde North, be careful, there out there looking for you.I didn't even know there were MP at Clyde and Clyde Nth.

[Ercildale]

I'm sick of this shit.

Nothing will open soon, Chairman Dan won't allow it. You can forget international travel for at least a year.

I know one place but they'll send me some shit girl.

Anyone knows any open places out west, pm me.Andrews gave us nothing today. I know we've got to stamp this thing out, but FMD, we're weeks away from anything opening again. Looks like I'll have to stick with Mrs Ercildale for a while longer.

[HeroMelb]

Two illegal houses shut down one in Ormond and one in Clayton.

A number of WL arrested as well as 14 punters.

May pay to think twice before taking the risk in the current climate.

Pedro.They confiscated phones and laptops. Do you think they will see peoples txt messages and calls and track them down?

[HeroMelb]

Just more of an FYI. It seems the AMP in St Alban is gone. There was a story in the Herald Sun about a month ago, on a raid on an AMP run from a house. Tried ringing the mamasan, Linda, several times now but 1 number seems disconnected and the other number goes straight to voicemail. Its a shame because Linda had genuine young girls for several years now. Another AMP is still operating but unfortunately their girls are mid 30's at the youngest.Hey man,

Should their be any worry about the phones confiscated as they have all punters phone numbers and txt messages etc?

[BrizLad]

They confiscated phones and laptops. Do you think they will see peoples txt messages and calls and track them down?Why do you think they confiscate phones and laptops? There are a couple of possible reasons:

LE will look for evidence to support their case.

LE will look for evidence of organized crime.

LE will look for whatever they can get.

Is it a crime to have your number on another person's phone? It could have been a wrong number call? In the scheme of things a shop probably gets 4-5 calls per booking. Lots of numbers probably don't even eventuate into bookings. A number could be a thread to unravel something or a dead end.

Always use a burner phone and a fake name. Always.

In Qld where the venues are open and we are enjoying the delights of our sweet girls every shop has a covid register where we have to provide, name, hone, address. While that sounds like LE gold I think everyone knows it's going to be full of fake details.

[HeroMelb]

Why do you think they confiscate phones and laptops? There are a couple of possible reasons:

LE will look for evidence to support their case.

LE will look for evidence of organized crime.

LE will look for whatever they can get.

Is it a crime to have your number on another person's phone? It could have been a wrong number call? In the scheme of things a shop probably gets 4-5 calls per booking. Lots of numbers probably don't even eventuate into bookings. A number could be a thread to unravel something or a dead end.

Always use a burner phone and a fake name. Always.

In Qld where the venues are open and we are enjoying the delights of our sweet girls every shop has a covid register where we have to provide, name, hone, address. While that sounds like LE gold I think everyone knows it's going to be full of fake details.Thanks for the reply, in terms of calling a shop I get you and makes sense but I'm talking more about calling directly and txt msg directly to Locanto, making arrangements that way.

[LostWithinDays]

Gday all,

Just wondering if anyone else on list has been chatting to a contact they met ok skokka.

She advertises out of an apartment in Knox but won't give you her room number.

For some reason I think it may be a set up.

Would legal go to such lengths to catch us out?

Cheers and stay safe.

Lwd.

[BrizLad]

Gday all,

Just wondering if anyone else on list has been chatting to a contact they met ok skokka.

She advertises out of an apartment in Knox but won't give you her room number.

For some reason I think it may be a set up.

Would legal go to such lengths to catch us out?

Cheers and stay safe.

Lwd.Lots of girls not give apartment number until you are at the address. Standard security 101 that has been used since forever.

[LostWithinDays]

Gday there.

Yes I fully realize that, on this occasion.

However something seemed odd, she wouldn't answer any calls or reply to texts for quite some time.

Maybe I'm getting paranoid but in these strange times I think that's justified.

Cheers all.

Lwd.


Lots of girls not give apartment number until you are at the address. Standard security 101 that has been used since forever.

[Teltel]

Gday there.

Yes I fully realize that, on this occasion.

However something seemed odd, she wouldn't answer any calls or reply to texts for quite some time.

Maybe I'm getting paranoid but in these strange times I think that's justified.

Cheers all.

Lwd.Maybe she was booked out or perhaps had been arrested or otherwise discouraged from providing her services.

Or just not receiving customers right now.

Teltel.

[BrizLad]

Maybe I'm getting paranoid but in these strange times I think that's justified..Maybe she's paranoid also.

[Chocha Monger]

Mate given the way this city and state is being run ATM, I doubt many international students will ever come back here.

HS.Bad news, lads! The Chinese Communist Party just banned Aussie coal from being offloaded in China. Even worse, it is strongly discouraging those twenty-something years old tight bodied students from studying in Oz and moonlighting in brothels. That means less Chinese marshmallow therapists available to provide relief to frustrated Aussie marshmallows.

[DanTheMan]

Bad news, lads! The Chinese Communist Party just banned Aussie coal from being offloaded in China. Even worse, it is strongly discouraging those twenty-something years old tight bodied students from studying in Oz and moonlighting in brothels. That means less Chinese marshmallow therapists available to provide relief to frustrated Aussie marshmallows.This is sad news. I need an empty out.

[BrizLad]

Bad news, lads! The Chinese Communist Party just banned Aussie coal from being offloaded in China. Even worse, it is strongly discouraging those twenty-something years old tight bodied students from studying in Oz and moonlighting in brothels. That means less Chinese marshmallow therapists available to provide relief to frustrated Aussie marshmallows.Means those university paces can be filled by more down market Thai, Filipina, Indo girls. Sounds great as they will need to work harder.

[ScallyWag01]

Hi all,

Regional Vic is not completely locked down like Melb. Massage shops are operating albeit you are asked to leave your details for covert tracing. Went to the Chinese massage in Wonthaggi last week. I had previously been there and had a good massage with a handy if I wanted for extra 20/30. I needed a massage and that was the main reason for attending. The aml was not the usual one I saw and nothing flash at all, but I wanted a good massage. Unfortunately, the massage was very ordinary, but the pre rollover touch up was. Her English was poor. She spent considerable time running her hand down the bum to the ballsack and stalk and I found it quite pleasant. On rollover she went straight for the stiff bit and nearly tore the head off it! Didn't enjoy it much at all. I asked if it was part of the massage but she didn't understand. I hadn't asked for a hand job. When I dressed I asked her how much I owed (massage $80 hrs). She said $150. I said no way and gave her $100 and said that was all I had and she was too greedy. She said nothing and just took the 100. I really wanted a decent massage so I won't be returning soon. The Thai massages up here are straight. While I don't care much for handys I don't mind a little cheeky touching. Stay safe.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi all,

Possibly another shop to bite the dust or just a refurb is that place next to sandown park rail station.

Will be interesting to see how many places reopen in the coming weeks.

Eyes up my friends.

Cheers.

Lwd.

[Dreamer4]

Hi all, so Chairman Dan has allowed shops to reopen from tomorrow Wed 28/10. For those who can't wait and start hunting, please report back and let us know how you go I probably will wait for another few weeks before getting back to it.

[Chocha Monger]

Hi all, so Chairman Dan has allowed shops to reopen from tomorrow Wed 28/10. For those who can't wait and start hunting, please report back and let us know how you go I probably will wait for another few weeks before getting back to it.Wise choice sitting it out the next few weeks. Horny mongers will queue up six inches apart trying to be among the first to make it into their local rub-and-tugs and dodgy brothels. They will wear out the wrists and snatches of the hookers on duty within the first few days. That means a lot of sticky sheets and towels at your favorite dodgy rub-and-tug.

[Wathell]

Hi all, so Chairman Dan has allowed shops to reopen from tomorrow Wed 28/10. For those who can't wait and start hunting, please report back and let us know how you go I probably will wait for another few weeks before getting back to it.It's going to be super busy in the first week. Happened last time when they opened. I came out and several dudes just in the waiting room. I will prob wait as well, never know if you're going to catch the rona.

[JDog12]

Hey guys,

Just got the green light and I have no idea where is good! Just want to experiment with some good happy ending first. Any suggestions? Southside preferably.

[Stykler]

Hey guys,

Just got the green light and I have no idea where is good! Just want to experiment with some good happy ending first. Any suggestions? Southside preferably.As you have taken so much time and effort in your one post to contribute to the forum, I thought I would provide some assistance to you. The best place to go is next to the McDonald's diagonally opposite the KFC. You will get a solid HJ and BBBJ to completion if you need to. If that doesn't get you off, go to the shop next to the local fish and chip place where you will get rimming, a finger up your arse and you will be able to fist the lady. No need to thank me.

[OnlyAGame]

Hi all,

Possibly another shop to bite the dust or just a refurb is that place next to sandown park rail station.

Lwd.Good riddance to bad rubbish. They were lazy, money hungry grubs.

[ValueMonger]

Having pretty much abstained from mongering bar one average experience, which I will post later, I had had a grand total of 2 Massages in 4 months, one normal contact which provided 1. 5 hours and two excellent HJs for 150.

I thought the first day AMP were open I just wanted a good straight massage I would just go to my normal port of call for a massage, booked my regular girl, whose mid 40's Thai not in any way attractive but fun and a laugh and excellent massage, she covers every inch of the body except twig and berries nd always professional nothing has ever bee raised about possible extras. Booked 90 minutes the charge was 105. , then proceed the usual excellent massage, and as I pad for another 30 minutes got more of her skills, she despite getting to a mm of my balls and twig never touched them but was getting a bit aroused. Then she started to rub her covered breasts over my face after the flip, I said what are you doing she replied I'm just trying to relax you. Then in last twenty minutes took each leg and massage the upper thigh and groin to nearly a peak of arousal, but never touching the old fellow, I got close a few times, and then she pressed her elbow on my groin for a minute of so and then I went limp, this happened two times changing each leg, and the last time she continued this but this time didn't press down on my groin to temper my arousal, and then suddenly started to flick the bit of skin between my balls and arse, despite being limp my manhood been partially coved with a small towel, I had one of the most intense orgasms ever, literally trembling, and I was flaccid all the time. She then said massage finished Ill get some towels, she then cleaned me and the plentiful man fat and massage was finished. No mention of any payment and session was finished, I gave her a 10 dollar tip as I left which I normally do, as they usually go 10 minutes over the allotted time, and she was grateful. Maybe an welcome back for a regular but a strange experience in the end. I have been there at least 20 times and nothing like this has happened I might venture back and see what else she provides.

[ValueMonger]

I visited to a FL on Locanto during lockdown, First appointment was cancelled with me just getting out of the car, as said she had double booked, but offered a reduced rate for my next visit, The next week, I booked with her and ventured to her area, just off Barkers Road in hawthorn, the houses on the street were salubrious, but one block of grotty flats was the address given, On the door, a girl, surprisingly, opened the door nothing like the photo but young and reasonably attractive. (Early 20's slim She agreed to the 200 hour as opposed to the normal 250 due to the previous weeks mix up, at least she honored that, There proceeded to a cat bath of sorts then CBJ and then CW then doggy to completion, she was mechanical, then a massage again very mechanical with little emotion, then she got me to turn over, but on the cover, and then managed a very good CBJ bit of gagging and DT and lots of hoovering and suction, she sucked me to completion and made sure I drained of all my fluid. And this is only 35 minutes into the hours appointment, She then sat and cuddled, and we chatted about her life and experiences in Australia.

She had turned to the game, due to her job as cleaning offices had been cancelled due to the pandemic. She had been doing the FL for 3 months, to send money home to her family in Malaysian she was Malaysian Chinese. She proceeded to tell me her finances and her costs. She works a 7 day week, 9 am-10 pm, her only days off are when she has a period, so say 3-4 days a month. She pays for an agent, who manages 3-4 other girls, the agent pays for any advert, and locanto is $40 a week, and she knows the agent puts different pictures on her page, even though she gave her own picture to the agent. The agent then takes 35% of any appointments!! And comes round on Sunday to collect her share. I asked her why she doesn't take a day off or take people outside the agent, she said as the agent pays for the sites she is advertised on she has to work these hours, and if she had a private client and it interrupted one of the agents customers coming round, she would lose his advertising and contacts. She lived in a petty grotty two bedroom flat with another girl who does he same, which costs 125 a day unfurnished to rent; . And honestly if you were to rent the flat out long term you would be paying close to half of what they pay but they have to book short term flats as the chance of LE finding out and locals complaining is too high so they move regularly, her landlords is Chinese who she says is possibly aware of her occupation. It was salutary lesson in how these girls make ends meet. It got me thinking how much these agents make, its basically charging same as Uber eats. And whilst you are chained to your phone for 7 days a week, they must make some serious money. I won't return again but left feeling a lot more sympathy for these girls, and anger towards the snake like agents.

[OlderPlayer]

Having pretty much abstained from mongering bar one average experience, which I will post later, I had had a grand total of 2 Massages in 4 months, one normal contact which provided 1. 5 hours and two excellent HJs for 150.

I thought the first day AMP were open I just wanted a good straight massage I would just go to my normal port of call for a massage, booked my regular girl, whose mid 40's Thai not in any way attractive but fun and a laugh and excellent massage, she covers every inch of the body except twig and berries nd always professional nothing has ever bee raised about possible extras. Booked 90 minutes the charge was 105. , then proceed the usual excellent massage, and as I pad for another 30 minutes got more of her skills, she despite getting to a mm of my balls and twig never touched them but was getting a bit aroused. Then she started to rub her covered breasts over my face after the flip, I said what are you doing she replied I'm just trying to relax you. Then in last twenty minutes took each leg and massage the upper thigh and groin to nearly a peak of arousal, but never touching the old fellow, I got close a few times, and then she pressed her elbow on my groin for a minute of so and then I went limp, this happened two times changing each leg, and the last time she continued this but this time didn't press down on my groin to temper my arousal, and then suddenly started to flick the bit of skin between my balls and arse, despite being limp my manhood been partially coved with a small towel, I had one of the most intense orgasms ever, literally trembling, and I was flaccid all the time..Good report.

Hope you visit again soon to see if it was a once off.

Wouldn't mind trying that myself.

A good massage and unexpected orgasm.

[Tha Aussie]

As you have taken so much time and effort in your one post to contribute to the forum, I thought I would provide some assistance to you. The best place to go is next to the McDonald's diagonally opposite the KFC. You will get a solid HJ and BBBJ to completion if you need to. If that doesn't get you off, go to the shop next to the local fish and chip place where you will get rimming, a finger up your arse and you will be able to fist the lady. No need to thank me.I am disappointed in the lack of comprehensive assistance you gave. You forgot the following ones.

The one next door to the cafe but not the one on the left they are legit.

The other which is awesome and only have girls to the age of 21. They then move them on. That 3 doors down from the tattoo parlour. Don't forget to mention that the man in the tattoo place said that you would get a special rate.

Probably our favourite of all time is beside BP. The young girls in there have no idea about charging for extras and are there doing their training for other massage places. Generally 18 year old students who happily provide BBBJ and CIM. As they believe it will enhance their prospects for a job. The other thing that the mamasan likes is for you to verbally abuse the girls as it will help understand what so many customers are like.

Finally if the missus has given you the green light she is perhaps working herself so if you would post her details we can perhaps help her reach satisfaction.

[JDog12]

I really have no experience with these things, so I'm sorry I don't have much to add currently. With some good guidance I will be a regular poster of reviews. I just need to be led in the right direction, if that's not how this works then I'll go figure it out myself. What a shit welcoming to the community LOL.

[Engine Driver]

I really have no experience with these things, so I'm sorry I don't have much to add currently. With some good guidance I will be a regular poster of reviews. I just need to be led in the right direction, if that's not how this works then I'll go figure it out myself. What a shit welcoming to the community LOL.Mate,

You don't really need any help with your first rub and tug mission. You just go for a walk along your suburban high street. Richmond, Brunswick, Glen Waverley, Footscray, Preston are good starting points. There you will encounter a number of massage shops with flashing neon "massage open" signs. Enter, pay your money and report back.

In defence of the shitty welcome, it's normal for newbies to contribute a few reports, build some rapport with the community and then seek further help will come your way.

[Engine Driver]

Hey guys,

Just got the green light and I have no idea where is good! Just want to experiment with some good happy ending first. Any suggestions? Southside preferably.I think we are all a little intrigued about why you would be seeking approval from the missus? What ever happened to the concept of "Need to Know"? I know that you are a virgin monger, but never, ever, ever, tell anyone you went to a rub and tug joint or a brothel. I can assure you that it will not enhance your reputation. Always use the rear entrance. Park your car a block away and leg it. Always pay in cash. Don't write your real name and phone number on the Covid form.

I can imagine how the conversation went:

Missus: "Hey Jdog luv, don't forget to pick up a litre of milk, some snags, a slab of green cans, and packet of Winfield Blues. You know that Trev and Shaz are coming over for tea tonight."

Jdog: "Yeah no worries luv. I'll just pop over to the shops right now. Oh, and by the way, would you mind if I popped into that new Asian rub and tug joint that's just opened next door to Imogen's school? It's on the way. I always wanted to get me a nice oily handjob from one of those cute, young Asian uni chicks."

Missus: "No worries honey. Treat yourself, you deserve it. Here's $100."

Jdog: "Thanks luv. You're the best."

[Dreamer4]

Hi Jdog12 and all, it was hilarious reading everyone's replies to Jdog12 first post. Welcome to the group mate. I agree with Engine Driver re. The "never tells anyone". This reminded me of the venture I had in Shanghai last year (I did post some reports there), since it was in China, everything was done via WeChat. On the way back, I deleted everything but it appears that the stu. The app still keeps some history. My wife found out a month later and it wasn't nice. Obviously I said I didn't do anything, I told her that the guys who I was with merely checked things out and sent me the infor. I doubt that she bought the story but I guess she could never find out!


I really have no experience with these things, so I'm sorry I don't have much to add currently. With some good guidance I will be a regular poster of reviews. I just need to be led in the right direction, if that's not how this works then I'll go figure it out myself. What a shit welcoming to the community LOL.

[MrManGuy]

Of course the Aussie forum has to be full of asshole behavior.

[John Smithson]

No roses here? $55 ph. Told to keep underwear on. Massage was good though. Cheap too!

Relax? Near the shell station. Same price $55 ph. Underwear off, but no extras offered, didn't ask / wasn't teased.

Is Anne Thai? $65 ph. Underwear off great massage. Nothing teased / offers / asked.

I do prefer underwear off for massages, even if you don't get anything out of it cause they do tend to work your site but / thighs out a little more.

If anyone has experience of the other 3-4 joints in the area please do let me know.

[Tha Aussie]

I doubt that she bought the story but I guess she could never find out!A wise man who unfortunately is dead now once said to me and I think I quote accurately.

"Don't ever think they don't know what's going on. They choose to ignore it that's all."

[Chocha Monger]

I think we are all a little intrigued about why you would be seeking approval from the missus? What ever happened to the concept of "Need to Know"? I know that you are a virgin monger, but never, ever, ever, tell anyone you went to a rub and tug joint or a brothel. I can assure you that it will not enhance your reputation. Always use the rear entrance. Park your car a block away and leg it. Always pay in cash. Don't write your real name and phone number on the Covid form.

I can imagine how the conversation went:

Missus: "Hey Jdog luv, don't forget to pick up a litre of milk, some snags, a slab of green cans, and packet of Winfield Blues. You know that Trev and Shaz are coming over for tea tonight."

Jdog: "Yeah no worries luv. I'll just pop over to the shops right now. Oh, and by the way, would you mind if I popped into that new Asian rub and tug joint that's just opened next door to Imogen's school? It's on the way. I always wanted to get me a nice oily handjob from one of those cute, young Asian uni chicks."

Missus: "No worries honey. Treat yourself, you deserve it. Here's $100."

Jdog: "Thanks luv. You're the best."Maybe, he has a very supportive Aussie wife and she understands his intense need for BBBJCIM and BBFSCIP with Chinese students. It may actually enhance his reputation and strengthen his bargaining position at home, as his wife knows she has to compete with all those cute hookers. She might even step up her performance in the sack. Just look at how well visiting fucky sucky bars in the Philippines worked out for Queensland MP George Christensen. J-Dog has absolutely nothing to fear, as he has the greenlight.

[Engine Driver]

Maybe, he has a very supportive Aussie wife and she understands his intense need for BBBJCIM and BBFSCIP with Chinese students. It may actually enhance his reputation and strengthen his bargaining position at home, as his wife knows she has to compete with all those cute hookers. She might even step up her performance in the sack. Just look at how well visiting fucky sucky bars in the Philippines worked out for Queensland MP George Christensen. J-Dog has absolutely nothing to fear, as he has the greenlight.I stand corrected. Where would we be without your words of wisdom Mr Chocha Monger?

Mongers can actually enhance their reputations once their nocturnal activities become public. Yes, the 330-pound Member for Dawson increased his majority in the last federal election once it was revealed that he did 28 mongering trips to Angeles City. It is claimed that his beautiful wife was a GRO at the now defunct Pony Tails bar in that fine city. His constituents thought she was a good sort.

[LostWithinDays]

Gday all,

Just to keep it real.

That questionable massage shop on the corner or Waverley and Warringal road has just reopened in the last day or so.

Very sure regulars on here know which shop I'm talking about.

Cheers and good luck.

Lwd.

[JDog12]

You fellas straight cracked me up every time I checked this since posting. My missus and I have been together for years, we're all human and we all want to fuck, she feels same way like most women. Just a little spice is all, if you can be honest then it's not worth it.

[OnlyAGame]

Has anyone encountered a ladyboy (or 2) in any of the many dozen Thai massage shops around Melbourne? Not after brothels, must be a massage shop.
I have a theory that I want to put to the test....

[John Smithson]

Has anyone encountered a ladyboy (or 2) in any of the many dozen Thai massage shops around Melbourne? Not after brothels, must be a massage shop.
I have a theory that I want to put to the test....Sorry have yet to encounter one inside a massage parlour, think my ex said there was a ladyboy run shop in Hawthorn.

Interested to know what theory you have. Ladyboys have stronger fingers and can really iron out those knots?

[Blue Bus]

There used to be one in Windsor. High st, on the city side of Williams Rd. That was 5 or 6 six years ago so who knows if she's still there. Just had a look on google maps, there's still a business operating the. Can't remember her name, tall with the deep voice.

[Tiny Tito]

Has anyone encountered a ladyboy (or 2) in any of the many dozen Thai massage shops around Melbourne? Not after brothels, must be a massage shop.
I have a theory that I want to put to the test....Laverton 1 of the shops there is owned and run by a lady boy also.

Evergreen Thai Massage Kensington had a lady boy working there.

Hope this helps you.

[LostWithinDays]

Hello all,

Of recent times there was a massage shop on plenty road, just south of Bell street.

(Not the upstairs place on the corner).

I'm unsure if this place is still there, I know there was labyboys working there, it was a Thai massage place actually.

If I'm over that side of the city I will investigate further and report back.

Cheers.

Lwd.

[Kantar]

Hi guys,

I got back into it recently, generally pretty bad luck. If you get any ads from locanto avoid girls working from EQ tower at A'Beckett St in the city and apartments at 2 Wests Rd Maribyrnong.

[OnlyAGame]

Visited a Thai shop in Sunshine which has sister shops in Camberwell, Northcote & other locations. Paid a reasonable $65 for an hour with a nice young cutie but the mood was dampened slightly when she hit me up for $50 for a tug, a further $50 to be nude and another $50 for a body slide. When I came to, I turned over and told her to continue with what I had paid $65 for and that was that. She didn't even get the $5 change from the initial transaction.

I don't care what anyone says or pays, a tug from someone who probably doesn't even want to do it is not worth $50.

I might wait a bit longer until the rush to recoup lost earnings dies down.

[Pedros Needs]

Visited a Thai shop in Sunshine which has sister shops in Camberwell, Northcote & other locations. Paid a reasonable $65 for an hour with a nice young cutie but the mood was dampened slightly when she hit me up for $50 for a tug, a further $50 to be nude and another $50 for a body slide. When I came to, I turned over and told her to continue with what I had paid $65 for and that was that. She didn't even get the $5 change from the initial transaction.

I don't care what anyone says or pays, a tug from someone who probably doesn't even want to do it is not worth $50.

I might wait a bit longer until the rush to recoup lost earnings dies down.Visited a new shop on Glenhuntly Rd today just before the railway crossing heading towards Grange Rd after Woolworths.

Attractive, rather sexy lady 30's wanted 50 for the handy and another 50 naked. I left.

Trying to make up for lost time, but not getting mine at that rate.

Pedro.

[AussieGaigin]

Visited a Thai shop in Sunshine which has sister shops in Camberwell, Northcote & other locations. Paid a reasonable $65 for an hour with a nice young cutie but the mood was dampened slightly when she hit me up for $50 for a tug, a further $50 to be nude and another $50 for a body slide. When I came to, I turned over and told her to continue with what I had paid $65 for and that was that. She didn't even get the $5 change from the initial transaction.

I don't care what anyone says or pays, a tug from someone who probably doesn't even want to do it is not worth $50.

I might wait a bit longer until the rush to recoup lost earnings dies down.Come up to Sydney mate (when you are allowed. LOL). A straight HJ should cost no more than $20, NHJ no more than $50. Some shops you can get CBJ or even BBBJ included with that, others will ask $30-50 extra.

[OnlyAGame]

Come up to Sydney mate (when you are allowed. LOL). A straight HJ should cost no more than $20, NHJ no more than $50. Some shops you can get CBJ or even BBBJ included with that, others will ask $30-50 extra.Yeah, I used to travel to Sydney in my previous job and know exactly what you're saying. Unfortunately someone in Melbourne decided a few years ago to charge more and offer less and that model has now been adopted by all of them.

[John Smithson]

There's a massage shop in Moonee Ponds in an arcade.

Knew I was in, cause kept my undies off, and they requested I take them off.

Its $35 for half an hour. The massage itself is hit and miss depending on who you get, then its.

$20 HJ.

$50 NHJ.

The ladies are older, probably past their best in the usual joints, but still good.

Quality varies, first time was a decent 30-35 ish year old, nice and slim, decent set boobs, second time older lady, HJ was ok, didn't offer nude, probably knew she might be a boner killer haha!

[John Smithson]

Was a little exp, saw an ad on locanto for mt alexander road.

No back entrance, so you got to enter / exit on the main road. Rooms were small.

$50 for 30 minutes.

Once again left my undies on, but was asked to remove them.

$25 for HJ.

$50 for NHJ.

Massage technique was poor, HJ was mediocre. Won't be back.

[John Smithson]

Well, sorry for "spamming" but just putting all my experiences over the past year in.

Was a lomi lomi advertised on Locanto / gumtree, it moves around Moonee ponds frequently.

$50 for 30 minutes, 30 for HJ, 50 for NHJ. Don't know if more was on offer.

Environment was nice, soft music, they use what to me smelled / felt like expensive massage oils. Technique was really good. Went back twice. Just a HJ wanted to save some $$ but the lady herself was a good looker. Think she was Mediterranean.

Still prefer the arcade parlour nothing beats it for price.

[DanTheMan]

It seems that shops are trying to make up for lost time and wages.

I hit up the Chinese place at watts Road sunshine. Granted it was right after restrictions had been lifted.

$80 no massage, straight into BBBJ and sex. Half way through the sex the old PRC boilers says she's sore and wants to give me a HJ.

No I said and continued giving it to her.

I'm looking for a new place where I can get a decent massage and HJ / FS at a decent price.

Unfortunately if guys keep paying inflated prices for shit service, it won't change. Especially those farktards who believe in tipping and paying extra as they think they'll be looked after, but instead get treated and thought of as a moron.

On another note I did see a freelancer during Lockdown. Private provider in south yarra. Mature South American woman. Who advertised $200/ HR, 300 for 2 hrs service was pretty good, BBBJ, FS was safe and she said she was an expert IN Prostate massage, I'm not big on that so I declined but it was no rush and 2 pops for the hour.

[Chocha Monger]

It seems that shops are trying to make up for lost time and wages.

I hit up the Chinese place at watts Road sunshine. Granted it was right after restrictions had been lifted.

$80 no massage, straight into BBBJ and sex. Half way through the sex the old PRC boilers says she's sore and wants to give me a HJ.

No I said and continued giving it to her.

I'm looking for a new place where I can get a decent massage and HJ / FS at a decent price.

Unfortunately if guys keep paying inflated prices for shit service, it won't change. Especially those farktards who believe in tipping and paying extra as they think they'll be looked after, but instead get treated and thought of as a moron.

On another note I did see a freelancer during Lockdown. Private provider in south yarra. Mature South American woman. Who advertised $200/ HR, 300 for 2 hrs service was pretty good, BBBJ, FS was safe and she said she was an expert IN Prostate massage, I'm not big on that so I declined but it was no rush and 2 pops for the hour.Well, if that Chinese granny did not have a sore pussy when you started rooting her, she does now! You sure got your money's worth giving that old boiler a hard root.

[Engine Driver]

Well, sorry for "spamming" but just putting all my experiences over the past year in.

Was a lomi lomi advertised on Locanto / gumtree, it moves around Moonee ponds frequently.

$50 for 30 minutes, 30 for HJ, 50 for NHJ. Don't know if more was on offer.

Environment was nice, soft music, they use what to me smelled / felt like expensive massage oils. Technique was really good. Went back twice. Just a HJ wanted to save some $$ but the lady herself was a good looker. Think she was Mediterranean.

Still prefer the arcade parlour nothing beats it for price.The pricing formula at most Thai places was always $70 for massage, then $50 for HJ, another $50 for topless and another $50 on top for nude. So all up, a 1 hour massage with nude HJ would come to $220! LOL.

Obviously, if stupid punters keep paying those sorts of prices, the girls are going to stick to that formula. Just one nude HJ massage delivered would just about cover their dorm room rent a week. No wonder the Asian students love our country and don't want to return home! No wonder they drag out their basic Ingris course for 5 years and still can't speak Ingris after passing. LOL.

Just a bit of perspective. From the $220 massage, the girl is clearing $185 after paying the mamasan for her cut of the massage fee. That's about 5,000 baht for an hours work and there's no sex involved. Welcome to the land of opportunity!

[ValueMonger]

Seen the adverts for Sonia? The pegging queen as she advertised. I was afraid due to her advance years her body would be poor, if she's Ok for her age an good skills might give it a pop, texted here a few times and she was always busy when I asked her availability.

On similar note went to my straight massage place again Thursday, 1. 5 HR massage, great massage and at end, she massaged my pubic bone to a big completion, even though cock was limp. No charge asked; gave her a tenner for her troubles, but TBH she's a 3/10 at best; but great massage.


It seems that shops are trying to make up for lost time and wages.



I hit up the Chinese place at watts Road sunshine. Granted it was right after restrictions had been lifted.

$80 no massage, straight into BBBJ and sex. Half way through the sex the old PRC boilers says she's sore and wants to give me a HJ.

No I said and continued giving it to her.

I'm looking for a new place where I can get a decent massage and HJ / FS at a decent price.

Unfortunately if guys keep paying inflated prices for shit service, it won't change. Especially those farktards who believe in tipping and paying extra as they think they'll be looked after, but instead get treated and thought of as a moron.

On another note I did see a freelancer during Lockdown. Private provider in south yarra. Mature South American woman. Who advertised $200/ HR, 300 for 2 hrs service was pretty good, BBBJ, FS was safe and she said she was an expert IN Prostate massage, I'm not big on that so I declined but it was no rush and 2 pops for the hour.

[TheseGuys]

I am disappointed in the lack of comprehensive assistance you gave. You forgot the following ones.

The one next door to the cafe but not the one on the left they are legit.

The other which is awesome and only have girls to the age of 21. They then move them on. That 3 doors down from the tattoo parlour. Don't forget to mention that the man in the tattoo place said that you would get a special rate.

Probably our favourite of all time is beside BP. The young girls in there have no idea about charging for extras and are there doing their training for other massage places. Generally 18 year old students who happily provide BBBJ and CIM. As they believe it will enhance their prospects for a job. The other thing that the mamasan likes is for you to verbally abuse the girls as it will help understand what so many customers are like.

Finally if the missus has given you the green light she is perhaps working herself so if you would post her details we can perhaps help her reach satisfaction.Tha Aussie,

I know the area you're talking about for the first two paragraphs but I'm not sure what you mean with the place beside BP could you please provide more detail on the location?

I'm intrigued and I want to give it a go.

Thanks.

[OlderPlayer]

First RnT since lockdown finished.

Hit the beach for a few hours, then off to the Heart arcade in Frankston.

The aging ML $40 1/2 wanted $30 for HJ but got it for $20 and and hand up under her bra.

The MS that was upstairs on Balmoral looks like she has shifted around the corner.

Bit too much passing traffic to be getting in or out without being seen for me.

Cheers Older.

[DanTheMan]

Went out to Preston yesterday and had 3 rub and tugs within a block.

Chose one called Lilly's massage. Saw one of the women walk into here and she didn't look too bad. $50 for massage and 20 for the HJ.

Massage was good HJ was OK at best.

Women there weren't that bad looking either.

[Stykler]

Tha Aussie,

I know the area you're talking about for the first two paragraphs but I'm not sure what you mean with the place beside BP could you please provide more detail on the location?

I'm intrigued and I want to give it a go.

Thanks.Umm, you need to go back and RTFF before you make a bit of a goose of yourself.

[Nikhil8]

Hi everyone,

I am just wondering has anyone tried SA here in Melbourne? Ads and news seem promising and tempting.

Any inputs would be highly appreciated and probably I can add some in for after My experience.

Regards,

Nik.

[ValueMonger]

Questions Questions never any info from you; DM's demanding details.

This is a forum that's an exchange of ideas and information. Do some leg work an show something before you deserve some respect.


Hi everyone,

I am just wondering has anyone tried SA here in Melbourne? Ads and news seem promising and tempting.

Any inputs would be highly appreciated and probably I can add some in for after My experience.

Regards,

Nik.

[Engine Driver]

Hi everyone,

I am just wondering has anyone tried SA here in Melbourne? Ads and news seem promising and tempting.

Any inputs would be highly appreciated and probably I can add some in for after My experience.

Regards,

Nik.That's why it's called having a punt. You pays your money and you take a risk. You win some and you lose some. You then report back on your findings and other mongers will continue to help you. You can't expect other mongers to take all the risks and you just get to enjoy the pussy of their labour.

[John Smithson]

The pricing formula at most Thai places was always $70 for massage, then $50 for HJ, another $50 for topless and another $50 on top for nude. So all up, a 1 hour massage with nude HJ would come to $220! LOL.

Obviously, if stupid punters keep paying those sorts of prices, the girls are going to stick to that formula. Just one nude HJ massage delivered would just about cover their dorm room rent a week. No wonder the Asian students love our country and don't want to return home! No wonder they drag out their basic Ingris course for 5 years and still can't speak Ingris after passing. LOL.

Just a bit of perspective. From the $220 massage, the girl is clearing $185 after paying the mamasan for her cut of the massage fee. That's about 5,000 baht for an hours work and there's no sex involved. Welcome to the land of opportunity!Gee, that's pretty steep, $220 better be FS. Cause you might as well go to a brothel.

Is it more cause "I'm not really paying for sex" or "I don't want to be seen entering / leaving a brothel, but a massage parlour is"?

Sydney was heaps better, lots of brothels for $120-140 in the city.

Even like body slide places were like $120-160.

[AussieGaigin]

Tha Aussie,

I know the area you're talking about for the first two paragraphs but I'm not sure what you mean with the place beside BP could you please provide more detail on the location?

I'm intrigued and I want to give it a go.

Thanks.Quite surprising that someone in Australia doesn't know that BP might be a petrol station?

[AussieGaigin]

Hi everyone,

I am just wondering has anyone tried SA here in Melbourne? Ads and news seem promising and tempting.

Any inputs would be highly appreciated and probably I can add some in for after My experience.

Regards,

Nik.SA is like most hook-up sites, they are only there to make money for the owners.

Up to you to look at what is on offer and see whether you think it is value.

[Nikhil8]

Thanks for the reply.

Any suggestion regarding weekly or monthly allowance range?

I am planning to join but not sure about how big my pocket hole going to be.

One more thing is it safe to organize everything at home or hotel.

Regards.


SA is like most hook-up sites, they are only there to make money for the owners.

Up to you to look at what is on offer and see whether you think it is value.

[Engine Driver]

Thanks for the reply.

Any suggestion regarding weekly or monthly allowance range?

I am planning to join but not sure about how big my pocket hole going to be.

One more thing is it safe to organize everything at home or hotel.

Regards.For newbies, the first rule of mongering is to keep your mongering life completely separate from your home life. Do you really want to invite a hooker over to your house?

[NewImage]

For newbies, the first rule of mongering is to keep your mongering life completely separate from your home life. Do you really want to invite a hooker over to your house?Like the guys who bring home girls from OS (yeah 7% do work) I would suggest not a good move. So many issues, problems on so many levels. Up to you and wish you well, but I would agree with the Driver and rethink your plan.

[Nikhil8]

Good thing is I live alone and on SA everyone is exoextijf to spend a quality time from movie to breakfast.

So was just thinking, otherwise will book a hotel.

Regards.


Like the guys who bring home girls from OS (yeah 7% do work) I would suggest not a good move. So many issues, problems on so many levels. Up to you and wish you well, but I would agree with the Driver and rethink your plan.

[Ercildale]

This place is near Essendon station, and hadn't been open all that long before the lockdown. Actually used to be a milk bar where I'd buy my milk.

Went there on Cup Eve, around lunchtime, hoping the initial post-lockdown rush would've been over during the weekend. $80 for an hour for starters. The girl I got certainly wasn't of the calibre they show on their photos on Locanto. A bit chubby, but totally acceptable, especially after a four month lockdown. Carla, from Taiwan, evidently. I asked her how business had been since the reopening, and she gave the standard answer. Very quiet. This proved not to be the case over the next 45 minutes, with the doorbell ringing 3 times in that period. From the exchange in Chinese between Carla and the girls outside, punters 1 and 2 were accommodated by other girls.

Carla gave a passable massage for 30-odd minutes, then she got down to business on the flip. Wanted $70 for a nude body rub. I knocked her down to $60 - probably still over the odds. But she then gave a pretty good session of rubbing her titties all over me and doing a bit of Spanish, which I thought was impressive. I'd taken my mask off when I'd got there, and for the RnT and body rub, she shed hers as well, which was a relief. However, after the deed was done, with a good 15 minutes of my hour left, she asked if she could finish off early, because they were now suddenly busy, and if I returned, next time she's give me extra time for free. Yeah, right. However, in my post-tug state, I didn't have the mental acumen to tell her I'd knock $20 off her $60 fee, which I realized I should have done, later. The final indignity came upon leaving, when I walked past the next bloke in the waiting area. Luckily, we both had our masks on.

WIR? Probably not. $140 is a bit rich for an hour, let alone $45 minutes. But she wasn't bad.

[Engine Driver]

Good thing is I live alone and on SA everyone is exoextijf to spend a quality time from movie to breakfast.

So was just thinking, otherwise will book a hotel.

Regards.Seems like you are looking for a girlfriend, not a hooker. A hooker can never ever be your girlfriend. It will never work. Once they decide to sell their pussies, they become different. Dating sites like SA are for experienced mongers, not newbies. This is not going to end well. Even Master Mongers like Chocha Monger will not go near them.

[Nikhil8]

You can say a GF but for limited time only and will taste different.

Every time. I am happy to spend $500 to 800 every long meets.

I hope this will go well as promised by many SA in words of discretion and NSA.


Seems like you are looking for a girlfriend, not a hooker. A hooker can never ever be your girlfriend. It will never work. Once they decide to sell their pussies, they become different. Dating sites like SA are for experienced mongers, not newbies. This is not going to end well. Even Master Mongers like Chocha Monger will not go near them.

[TakeCareYou]

I've been on SA for about 6 months and here's my limited experience. My impressions is that the standard rate for an ongoing arranement is $3000 per month which includes meeting every week on a regular basis. Don't forget if you go out for dinner, movies etc you would be expected to pay for everything on top of her fee. Make sure you both agree to what is expected in an arrangement especially when it comes to the sex.

I am not interested in an ongoing arrangement. My requirements are quite specific. I want them to host (in other words we meet at their place), pay per session (PPS), $300 for 2 hours (negotiable). That's it. I'm not interested in meeting for coffee, lunch, dinner, traveling together, buying gifts, etc. If I was, I would use a dating site.

Most women on SA want an "ongoing arrangement" and would reject a PPS arrangement because it make them feel like a prostitute.

If a women does not host then your alternatives are a hotel or your place. Both unacceptable to me. A hotel would add to the cost.

There are too many young girls on the site but there are some nice 30-40 years olds if you search. (I am 61).

I have had luck with 2 women who were accommodating to my requirments and we had a great time. But it took a lot of searching and rejecting.

My advice is know what you want and ask the girl what they want from an SA arrangement. That way you can quickly get to the point without wasting each others time or broadband!

[Chocha Monger]

You can say a GF but for limited time only and will taste different.

Every time. I am happy to spend $500 to 800 every long meets.

I hope this will go well as promised by many SA in words of discretion and NSA.Engine Driver's advice is right on the money. Once a woman sells her pussy, she crosses the line and becomes a hooker. She can never go back to seeing men the same way again. All future dealings with men will be purely transactional. Do not think that you can make a hooker your "girlfriend" because it is simply not possible. You cannot cross the line from "John" to "boyfriend" and you should never try.

When dealing with hookers in denial on SA, you should always demand a pay-per-fuck (PPF) arrangement with a well-defined fee structure. Clarify if she will allow you to have multiple shots on target for a set fee within a given period versus an arrangement where the match ends whenever you break or time runs out. "Ongoing relationship" type arrangements never benefit the monger, as you will be paying a high flat fee plus additional costs. This defeats the whole point of paying for pussy, which is to increase efficiency by cutting out all activities, time, energy, and expenditures not directly related to actual bareback full service cum-in-pussy.

If you are paying 500 or 800 South Sea pesos for several hours, she should be naked and engaged in BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM for the entire engagement. She should not be telling you sad stories about her troubled childhood, abusive relationships with alpha males, or dreams for the future. As a newbie, you should limit your dealings with capitalist hookers to one or two hours of actual sex. Anything more may possibly mess with your perception of reality.

[Nikhil8]

Thanks a lot for your detailed opinion and suggestion.

I guess putting arrangement straight forward would be a great idea as few of them are expecting quite round and round things.

I agree we are not after a GF after All. But good GFE for short time is always in our list.

Once again thanks a lot.


I've been on SA for about 6 months and here's my limited experience. My impressions is that the standard rate for an ongoing arranement is $3000 per month which includes meeting every week on a regular basis. Don't forget if you go out for dinner, movies etc you would be expected to pay for everything on top of her fee. Make sure you both agree to what is expected in an arrangement especially when it comes to the sex.

I am not interested in an ongoing arrangement. My requirements are quite specific. I want them to host (in other words we meet at their place), pay per session (PPS), $300 for 2 hours (negotiable). That's it. I'm not interested in meeting for coffee, lunch, dinner, traveling together, buying gifts, etc. If I was, I would use a dating site.

Most women on SA want an "ongoing arrangement" and would reject a PPS arrangement because it make them feel like a prostitute.

If a women does not host then your alternatives are a hotel or your place. Both unacceptable to me. A hotel would add to the cost.

[Nikhil8]

I am actually newbie to SA and going to try this for few months only.

I will keep your advice in my mind and limit myself in terms of money and expectations.

And surely will post here my full review.

Safe mongering guys.


Engine Driver's advice is right on the money. Once a woman sells her pussy, she crosses the line and becomes a hooker. She can never go back to seeing men the same way again. All future dealings with men will be purely transactional. Do not think that you can make a hooker your "girlfriend" because it is simply not possible. You cannot cross the line from "John" to "boyfriend" and you should never try.

When dealing with hookers in denial on SA, you should always demand a pay-per-fuck (PPF) arrangement with a well-defined fee structure. Clarify if she will allow you to have multiple shots on target for a set fee within a given period versus an arrangement where the match ends whenever you break or time runs out. "Ongoing relationship" type arrangements never benefit the monger, as you will be paying a high flat fee plus additional costs. This defeats the whole point of paying for pussy, which is to increase efficiency by cutting out all activities, time, energy, and expenditures not directly related to actual bareback full service cum-in-pussy.

If you are paying 500 or 800 South Sea pesos for several hours, she should be naked and engaged in BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM for the entire engagement. She should not be telling you sad stories about her troubled childhood, abusive relationships with alpha males, or dreams for the future. As a newbie, you should limit your dealings with capitalist hookers to one or two hours of actual sex. Anything more may possibly mess with your perception of reality.

[TheseGuys]

Quite surprising that someone in Australia doesn't know that BP might be a petrol station?Nah I do it's just that there isn't a BP near where he is talking about, its way up the road or way down the road.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi all,

2 shops side by side seem to have reopened on the grange and McKinnon Road corner.

From memory one of these used to have some nice Vietnamese MILFs working.

Good luck all.

Cheers.

Lwd.

[Engine Driver]

And surely will post here my full review..We will eagerly await your field reports.

[MrDickso]

Does anyone know where the crew from 83 Alfreida street got to? That was a great place. Up for rent at the moment. Was operating in June.

[Dan40]

Hi everyone,

I wanted to get an information from the people here. The website scarlet blue has an advert by Angelique Eyna. Has anyone been to her. If yes please can you share your experience.

TIA.

DAN.

[Engine Driver]

Hi everyone,

I wanted to get an information from the people here. The website scarlet blue has an advert by Angelique Eyna. Has anyone been to her. If yes please can you share your experience.

TIA.

DAN.I know monger behavior pretty well. Angelique is a MILF in her 40's who charges $600 an hour. A successful business executive who hunts at that price point would not be seeking the advice and opinion of forum members before throwing down that sort of money. [Deleted by Admin]

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[Member #4667]

Hi everyone,

I wanted to get an information from the people here. The website scarlet blue has an advert by Angelique Eyna. Has anyone been to her. If yes please can you share your experience.

TIA.

DAN.Jesus, a 40 yr old at $600/ HR, I remember the old days when you can get a fit 20 yr old for 250 HR. This post is like asking your taxi driver for stock tips right.

[DanTheMan]

Hi everyone,

I wanted to get an information from the people here. The website scarlet blue has an advert by Angelique Eyna. Has anyone been to her. If yes please can you share your experience.

TIA.

DAN.i just looked her up. No woman is worth that money. I don't care who she is.

[Dan40]

i just looked her up. No woman is worth that money. I don't care who she is.Thanks. Exactly What I thought as well but then there are some despos around who want to splurge their dollars so what can be done.

[PeterHap]

Does anyone know where the crew from 83 Alfreida street got to? That was a great place. Up for rent at the moment. Was operating in June.Raided and closed in Sep 20.

[Martinxp]

I am actually newbie to SA and going to try this for few months only.

I will keep your advice in my mind and limit myself in terms of money and expectations.

And surely will post here my full review.

Safe mongering guys.Yes very good advice.

Probably the best advice I came across here. I feel into this trap. A receptionist at a massage shop offered me sex at her place. I thought Ok and many $$$ later I feel trapped, thinking is she a hooker or my girlfriend. Wish it was Black and White, will make things much simpler and save $$.

[Dreamer4]

Hi guys, do you have any preference / advice on the best time and day to go to MP or prostitution? Morning, afternoon or evening, Mon. Fri or weekend?

[LostWithinDays]

Hello all,

Went for a massage at a Thai shop in bulleen recently.

The massage lady was a lovely mature thai.

MILF (mid40's). I must say she gave a fantastic oil massage, after the flip she put in on me for $50 for a handie, which I declined, I offered her $30.00 but she flatly refused.

This is fine with me, not a problem buty question for the regulars is why not accept 30 dollars and be done with it.

Something is better than nothing.

Suggestions please.

Cheers lwd.

[AussieGaigin]

She probably does have customers who will pay the $50. She'd rather have 3 x $50 than "cheapen" herself for 5 x $30.

Selling cheap can have effects right across the trade.

[Engine Driver]

Hello all,

Went for a massage at a Thai shop in bulleen recently.

The massage lady was a lovely mature thai.

MILF (mid40's). I must say she gave a fantastic oil massage, after the flip she put in on me for $50 for a handie, which I declined, I offered her $30.00 but she flatly refused.

This is fine with me, not a problem buty question for the regulars is why not accept 30 dollars and be done with it.

Something is better than nothing.

Suggestions please.

Cheers lwd.1. Pride. Thais have an unrealistic view of their worth and would rather you walk than take a pay cut. Whereas Chinese will always look to close the deal. They will even throw in a sweetener if they can't reduce the price.

2. Union rules. If her colleagues found out she was undercutting the unofficial union rate for HJ, she would be ostracized and maybe even lose her job.

3. Most shops are run by racketeers, and no one wants to break the rules.

[Engine Driver]

Hi guys, do you have any preference / advice on the best time and day to go to MP or prostitution? Morning, afternoon or evening, Mon. Fri or weekend?When you go to a market, the freshest meat is in the morning.

After the hooker has had her pussy pounded by 20 horny, Viagra fueled mongers, her enthusiasm would wane by late afternoon.

[AussieGaigin]

Hi guys, do you have any preference / advice on the best time and day to go to MP or prostitution? Morning, afternoon or evening, Mon. Fri or weekend?So many variables in this question. I like to go early in the belief the girl will be fresh.

But in reality, you don't know what the girl did in the hours prior to starting work. In some shops the girl may be working a "late shift", so she is fresh at 3 pm. As for day of week, some girls only work part time, so which day doesn't really matter.

Tbe only guaranteed time is one which suits YOU.

[OnlyAGame]

she put in on me for $50 for a handie, which I declined, I offered her $30.00 but she flatly refused.

This is fine with me, not a problem buty question for the regulars is why not accept 30 dollars and be done with it.

Something is better than nothing.

Suggestions please.

Cheers lwd.Because she probably doesn't want to do it in the first place so she's making it worth her while. It would be a guaranteed disappointment.

[MrDickso]

Raided and closed in Sep 20.Argghh. That breaks my heart after all these years. Thanks for the info. If you get a lead on them opening again elsewhere I'll shout you a Christmas finders fee or something. Cheers.

[Kakariki]

Hello all,
Went for a massage at a Thai shop in bulleen recently.
The massage lady was a lovely mature thai.
MILF (mid40's). I must say she gave a fantastic oil massage, after the flip she put in on me for $50 for a handie, which I declined, I offered her $30.00 but she flatly refused.
This is fine with me, not a problem buty question for the regulars is why not accept 30 dollars and be done with it.
Something is better than nothing.
Suggestions please.
Cheers lwd.Good to see you stood your ground, too many guys here aren't which is allowing girls to ask ridiculous prices for minimal extra services, well done.

[DanTheMan]

So many variables in this question. I like to go early in the belief the girl will be fresh.

But in reality, you don't know what the girl did in the hours prior to starting work. In some shops the girl may be working a "late shift", so she is fresh at 3 pm. As for day of week, some girls only work part time, so which day doesn't really matter.

Tbe only guaranteed time is one which suits YOU.There's no such thing as fresh when it comes to the world of are+Ts.

Just go when you're ready and empty out.

[FenceJumper]

Hi guys, do you have any preference / advice on the best time and day to go to MP or prostitution? Morning, afternoon or evening, Mon. Fri or weekend?If I plan on going for a lick, I absolutely want to be first can off the rank.

[Atom72]

Does anyone know of any MPs open after 9 pm?

[BrizLad]

Good to see you stood your ground, too many guys here aren't which is allowing girls to ask ridiculous prices for minimal extra services, well done.Good to see the girl stood her ground also.

Business is always done when people disagree on prices. For a deal to go ahead, the guy thinks a HJ is worth more than $50 but offers $50 and the girl would do it for less so accepts $50. In the case of LostWithinDays he considers a HJ is worth less than $50 and the girl considers $50 to be her price. No deal happen as she possibly already has $600 for the day and LostWithinDays extra $30 won't make an impact.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi all,

There are a couple places open very late on Victoria street. Richmond.

Some have been spoken about on this forum previously.

Best of luck.

Lwd.


Does anyone know of any MPs open after 9 pm?

[OnlyAGame]

Visited a Thai shop in Springvale that I have only noticed recently and have been meaning to try. They charge $69 for an hour, which I thought was a promising sign so I gave it a go. All the staff I saw were middle aged and I was assigned a lady called Cat who was slim with a good figure. Massage was legit and was good enough to have me snoring on a few occasions. After turning over there was no sign of any extras on offer until with literally 2 minutes left she offered me a tug for $50. Apart from the fact that I don't pay anyone $50 for a tug, I reasoned that with so little time left she was probably going to try to rip my cock off for 50 seconds and then tell me that time was up with no result, so I declined the offer.

I'd probably go back for 45 minutes with someone else and see if there's any better offer. The shop was quite busy at the time (mid afternoon) but their rooms don't have ceilings and you can hear everything so if peace and quiet is your thing, this shop won't be for you.

[BrizLad]

Visited a Thai shop in Springvale that I have only noticed recently and have been meaning to try. They charge $69 for an hour, which I thought was a promising sign so I gave it a go. All the staff I saw were middle aged and I was assigned a lady called Cat who was slim with a good figure. Massage was legit and was good enough to have me snoring on a few occasions. After turning over there was no sign of any extras on offer until with literally 2 minutes left she offered me a tug for $50. Apart from the fact that I don't pay anyone $50 for a tug, I reasoned that with so little time left she was probably going to try to rip my cock off for 50 seconds and then tell me that time was up with no result, so I declined the offer.

I'd probably go back for 45 minutes with someone else and see if there's any better offer. The shop was quite busy at the time (mid afternoon) but their rooms don't have ceilings and you can hear everything so if peace and quiet is your thing, this shop won't be for you.This sounds like a legitimate shop. Unless it's supper convenient for you, why bother trying for extras. Seems Melbourne has lots of better places with more success.

[OnlyAGame]

This sounds like a legitimate shop. Unless it's supper convenient for you, why bother trying for extras. Seems Melbourne has lots of better places with more success.There's a method to my madness, Brizlad. I have been around since the days when $60 bought you a nude massage and at very least a tug at every shop in town so I'm a bit over the whole scene to be honest.

I know that I can walk into any nameless shop with a generic photo of someone's back covering the front windows and get all manner of services for my money and that's exactly the problem. I don't want some money grubbing Chinese old boiler or petulant little princess hitting me up for a $50 tug within 2 minutes of entering the room and trying to get me out the door as soon as possible. I like a half decent massage and if I get a bonus happy ending it certainly doesn't cost me $50. Some of the best extras I've had have been from "legitimate" shops and I've never paid more than $30 for any of them whereas most of the tugs I've had in the "guaranteed" shops have not been worth paying for.

Not so long ago I had a one hour no holds barred session with a Vietnamese girl every Saturday morning for over a year in a herbal medicine / acupuncture shop and guess what, she didn't even want to be paid.

The simple fact is, if they don't usually do extras, they are not likely to charge as much as someone who does and they will probably be better at it.

Here endeth the lesson.

[BrizLad]

There's a method to my madness, Brizlad. I have been around since the days when $60 bought you a nude massage and at very least a tug at every shop in town so I'm a bit over the whole scene to be honest.That's great to hear we both started punting around the same time in 1995 ish.

We all love the fun of discovering a gem. Enjoy your fossicking.

[Genuine Lotus]

Not so long ago I had a one hour no holds barred session with a Vietnamese girl every Saturday morning for over a year in a herbal medicine / acupuncture shop and guess what, she didn't even want to be paid.
.Spot on for declining the mindless 2 minute-tug. There's an overwhelming number of guys who want good massage first and what unfolds later at legit shops on the flip is almost always bliss. Jessies acupuncture shop upstairs (now sold) comes to mind where unwritten Chinese rule said the girls weren't permitted to receive money for extras but part of the 70 ph service to get repeat custom. I never had trouble with pants and top down (not off) for a beautiful 30-40 minutes of bliss. Never once was I asked for money. I would slip 50 in their back pocket for such an enjoyable time. There are many low-profile places that prefer to mascaraed as legit. Lesson, never judge a book by its cover.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[Engine Driver]

Spot on for declining the mindless 2 minute-tug. There's an overwhelming number of guys who want good massage first and what unfolds later at legit shops on the flip is almost always bliss. Jessies acupuncture shop upstairs (now sold) comes to mind where unwritten Chinese rule said the girls weren't permitted to receive money for extras but part of the 70 ph service to get repeat custom. I never had trouble with pants and top down (not off) for a beautiful 30-40 minutes of bliss. Never once was I asked for money. I would slip 50 in their back pocket for such an enjoyable time. There are many low-profile places that prefer to mascaraed as legit. Lesson, never judge a book by its cover.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.Fully agree. Some of the most memorable experiences often arise at the least expected places. There was a Chinese lady in Hawthorn at an acupuncture and herbal medicine place who would give me a HJ and prostate massage as part of the normal massage service. She said in China, where she was classically trained, that's what they had to do. Then she progressed to DFK while jacking me off, which I think wasn't in the acupuncture text book. Haha.

Speaking of old timers, when I first started mongering, a HJ was only $10 extra. A one hour massage by an Asian lady was $30. Accounting for inflation, prices are actually cheaper now.

[Stykler]

Wow, the Guangzhou Grandmothers must be doing a roaring trade. I sat in a cafe having a coffee opposite two RnT's in Sydney Road this morning, I think the numbers would have been in the 600-700 Sydney Road area. In the 45 minutes I was there I saw six "clients" walk in and about 4 - 6 push on a locked door. The old bags will be getting RSI along with their booming bank balance at this rate.

[Engine Driver]

Wow, the Guangzhou Grandmothers must be doing a roaring trade. I sat in a cafe having a coffee opposite two RnT's in Sydney Road this morning, I think the numbers would have been in the 600-700 Sydney Road area. In the 45 minutes I was there I saw six "clients" walk in and about 4 - 6 push on a locked door. The old bags will be getting RSI along with their booming bank balance at this rate.It's not just their writs which are getting sore from all that repetitive action. Those Beijing Boilers are getting their pussies pounded mercilessly by all those horny mongers. Picture the situation. A 65 year old Chinese grandma with a hairy pussy, saggy tits and garlic breathe climbs on top of a monger for a body slide, just before some fucky sucky action. Too scary to even think about.

That's what being locked up for 6 months does to people. All that pent up lust needs to be released.

What a country? Where else can granny make $1,000 a day tax free?

[NewImage]

Spot on for declining the mindless 2 minute-tug. There's an overwhelming number of guys who want good massage first and what unfolds later at legit shops on the flip is almost always bliss. Jessies acupuncture shop upstairs (now sold) comes to mind where unwritten Chinese rule said the girls weren't permitted to receive money for extras but part of the 70 ph service to get repeat custom. I never had trouble with pants and top down (not off) for a beautiful 30-40 minutes of bliss. Never once was I asked for money. I would slip 50 in their back pocket for such an enjoyable time. There are many low-profile places that prefer to mascaraed as legit. Lesson, never judge a book by its cover.
Happy hunting and punting.
Lotus.How many rubs did you endure to find the golden goose. Congrats to you but its not that easy, I'm sure you'll agree and sometimes its a oncer when they realize what they have done.

Respectfully.

[DaveOnNet]

How many rubs did you endure to find the golden goose. Congrats to you but its not that easy, I'm sure you'll agree and sometimes its a oncer when they realize what they have done.

Respectfully.True, such gems are hard to find!

Bdw, anyone tried Amelia (African) at Red Door in Seaford?

[Krudd]

There's a method to my madness, Brizlad. I have been around since the days when $60 bought you a nude massage and at very least a tug at every shop in town so I'm a bit over the whole scene to be honest.

I know that I can walk into any nameless shop with a generic photo of someone's back covering the front windows and get all manner of services for my money and that's exactly the problem. I don't want some money grubbing Chinese old boiler or petulant little princess hitting me up for a $50 tug within 2 minutes of entering the room and trying to get me out the door as soon as possible. I like a half decent massage and if I get a bonus happy ending it certainly doesn't cost me $50. Some of the best extras I've had have been from "legitimate" shops and I've never paid more than $30 for any of them whereas most of the tugs I've had in the "guaranteed" shops have not been worth paying for.

Not so long ago I had a one hour no holds barred session with a Vietnamese girl every Saturday morning for over a year in a herbal medicine / acupuncture shop and guess what, she didn't even want to be paid.

The simple fact is, if they don't usually do extras, they are not likely to charge as much as someone who does and they will probably be better at it.

Here endeth the lesson.Going back a while, but there were some girls at Station St Moorabbin who'd provide FS for no extra charge. You would walk out $45 poorer but a whole lot richer in other ways. Was a fairly specific time. Probably around 2011-2012. I agree that the real money grabbers don't usually provide a very good service.

[LostWithinDays]

Hi all.

Was stuck in traffic on north road last week, and happened to notice 4 massage shops on the same corner.

North and poath roads to be precise (the south part of poath road).

Lots of passing traffic and in the 10 minutes I was waiting at least 6 punters wandered in and out.

Some of these massage shops are like mushrooms, they pop up overnight only to disappear just as quickly.

Good luck all.

Cheers lwd.

[Dreamer4]

Guys, just a quick report re. Skokka.

First time after lock down so decided to check out Skokka and Locanto. Lots of ads on Locanto so decided to try 2 providers on Skokka. As mentioned in my previous posts, ALL photos are fake so don't expect much and you won't be disappointed.

The first provider has mobile number ended with 389. Always Google the phone number to see whether the girl is real independent or just run by a cartel. In this case, this number is a cartel as it is advertised on multiple websites showing different girls and photos. I was asked to go to an apartment on La Trobe St, south of Elizabeth St but when I was there, I was told to go to Burke St instead (between Russell and Exhibition). Not very happy but went there anyway. Entered a 1 bed room apartment, blinds were down and lights were off but room was nice and clean. Chinese girl in early 30's. Not bad looking, smooth skin. Booked for half an hour and she gave a good massage afterward.

Decided to check out the second provider with number ended with 160. Asked to go to an apartment on Victoria St Carlton, opposite Audi dealer. Again nice clean 2 bed room apartment. 2 girls were there and offered 3 some but too steep so I declined. Girl was also Chinese, probably late 20's, nice firm body but face not pretty. I can see clearly as the light was on and the blind was up so the room was bight as day! Girl was a bit mechanical but was ok. Didn't get any massage afterward.

Damage $150 for half an hour with each girl. A bit steep but worth trying. I booked the first session at 11 so I was the first for both girls which I thought was good. I asked the girls about business and they both said business is a bit slow but as I was leaving the second girl, it appears that she will have another customer after me so perhaps things are picking up after lunch time.

Bottom line is Skokka and Locanco are ok if you want something a bit different. You don't know which girl you are going to get so always just book half an hour and see how you go. If you don't like the girl, just politely say thanks and leave. No hard feeling.

Skill looking for that golden goose as per previous posts (nice young student girl with GFE) but it appears that most (if not all) the ads on Skokka and Locanto are run by a cartel who I assume that they organised the girls from China, and else where, to be here, make some money and go back home.

PM me if you need more details on the above.

[Brauninc]

Hi all.

Was stuck in traffic on north road last week, and happened to notice 4 massage shops on the same corner.

North and poath roads to be precise (the south part of poath road).

Lots of passing traffic and in the 10 minutes I was waiting at least 6 punters wandered in and out.

Some of these massage shops are like mushrooms, they pop up overnight only to disappear just as quickly.

Good luck all.

Cheers lwd.It's an amazing feat isn't it, and as more and more keep popping up, personally I have become less interested in entering any of them, why would you ask? Because there aim is to take as much money from you without giving you much in return.

[DanTheMan]

Just a heads up on a scam in skokka.

This ad is fake. A mate of mine fell for it and scored some old Chinese duck.

Sunny is actually real and on instagram, but she's in Canada, not skokka advertising for sex.

[Chocha Monger]

It's not just their writs which are getting sore from all that repetitive action. Those Beijing Boilers are getting their pussies pounded mercilessly by all those horny mongers. Picture the situation. A 65 year old Chinese grandma with a hairy pussy, saggy tits and garlic breathe climbs on top of a monger for a body slide, just before some fucky sucky action. Too scary to even think about.

That's what being locked up for 6 months does to people. All that pent up lust needs to be released.

What a country? Where else can granny make $1,000 a day tax free?Does the old Beijing boiler help you out of your wheelchair for the body slide or just she just straddle you in the wheelchair and insert your Viagra-infused marshmallow into her hairy 65-year-old snatch? Most likely, this is all bareback full service cum-in-pussy, as her 65-year-old puss is post-menopausal and certified infertile as the Gibson Desert. Does the fuck fee include a complimentary green can and a stick of Winfield Blue after consummating your lustful desires? Hopefully, she takes good care to keep the tubes to your oxygen cylinder out of the way. It would be a shame to have the tubes accidentally disconnect in the heat of the moment, resulting in having to call an ambulance to the scene. I am sure Aussie first responders have seen it all but explaining the saucy circumstances to the family is another matter.

[Engine Driver]

Does the old Beijing boiler help you out of your wheelchair for the body slide or just she just straddle you in the wheelchair and insert your Viagra-infused marshmallow into her hairy 65-year-old snatch? Most likely, this is all bareback full service cum-in-pussy, as her 65-year-old puss is post-menopausal and certified infertile as the Gibson Desert. Does the fuck fee include a complimentary green can and a stick of Winfield Blue after consummating your lustful desires? Hopefully, she takes good care to keep the tubes to your oxygen cylinder out of the way. It would be a shame to have the tubes accidentally disconnect in the heat of the moment, resulting in having to call an ambulance to the scene. I am sure Aussie first responders have seen it all but explaining the saucy circumstances to the family is another matter.Dear Mr Monger,

If the old Aussie monger in the wheel chair weighs about 330 pounds, there is no way the old Beijing Boiler is going to lift him out of it onto the massage table. She is on a 30-day tourist visa with no medical insurance and is not going to bust her back. Even if she could, the cheap Chinese made massage table is not going to withstand that sort of weight. It is best to keep him in the wheel chair. Those old wily grannies prefer to do the least amount of work necessary for their fuck fee. It is best for her just to pull his XXXXXXL tracksuit pants down to his ankles and mount him while he is still seated. She might not even take her clothes off, preferring to lift up her dress and pull aside her high waisted grandma panties. The monger is hardly in position to protest. She will, however, have a very hard enough time trying to find his 2-inch marshmallow in amongst all the layers of fat.

As for a free VB green can and a stick of Winnie Blue, when was the last time in Detroit you got something for nothing from a Chinese pimp?

[Engine Driver]

Just a simple question for the guys on this Melbourne board. Why do you keep going to these stupid Chinese rub and tug joints where you know you're going to be ripped off? 100% for sure. You know there will be an old granny there with saggy tits, but you just blindly keep entering these joints, hoping miraculously that a Miss Universe lookalike will be there to offer you a root for $20.

Melbourne has well over a 100 licensed brothels. For between $110 -$150 for 30 minutes, you are guaranteed to get a root. That will include a CBJ, maybe DFK depending on the girl, DATY, AR and a good CFS with maybe COT. You will also get a choice of girl from the lineup. If you don't like any of the chicks, you can walk. You haven't lost anything.

Earlier this year, before the Wuhan Reaper escaped from the lab where he was created, I went to the California Club on St. Kilda Road for a root. There were two nice, white Caucasian chicks available, wearing sexy lingerie. Both were late 20's and European backpackers. Cost was $150 plus $50 for the business executives pack. The business executives pack included DFK, DATY and a more friendly attitude. Compared to what mongers are throwing down at rub and tug joints, this was a good deal.

I can only think that mongers are going to rub and tugs because of the thrill of the chase and maybe the 1% chance of finding a hidden gem. The only gem they're going to find is a 65 year old Beijing Boiler with a hairy pussy, saggy tits and garlic breath.

Rub and tugs are a hybrid model. They neither provide a good massage nor a good root.

[Brauninc]

I reckon we are down to about 90 brothels now Engine driver, and I reckon the RNT and Private industry have stolen all the girls, this is why there are barely enough girls in the brothels now to service us gents for a fair price.

With more customers going to non brothels it is just inviting more of these shops to open, but if people did not go to these places, we would have 50 guys lined up outside the brothels as there are not enough to meet Melbourne's sexual needs.

[Martinxp]

Just a heads up on a scam in skokka.

This ad is fake. A mate of mine fell for it and scored some old Chinese duck.

Sunny is actually real and on instagram, but she's in Canada, not skokka advertising for sex.Thanks Dan.

I nearly made a booking with her when she was working out of a Hotel in Wantirna Sth.

If the Chinese duck has tits like her, then it might be Ok.

But don't think so.

[Stykler]

Just a simple question for the guys on this Melbourne board. Why do you keep going to these stupid Chinese rub and tug joints where you know you're going to be ripped off? You make a very good point.

[Engine Driver]

The following is only an opinion piece. Before anyone gets too excited, I have no evidence to back any of this up. Feel free to comment.

I am certain the flooding of the world sex markets by old Chinese women is the work of the CCP to earn hard foreign currency. The network is too well established for it not to be. It's never reported by the media. The need for sex by older men in rich white countries is the Achilles heel of the west and the CCP knows how to exploit it. I would think the trade would be worth billions annually on a global basis. Let's just say there are 200,000 Chinese sex workers abroad under the control of the CCP, spread out across the top 30 rich countries. Each one earns around $80 k a year doing sucky fucky. That's $16 billion in foreign currency straight into CCP coffers or into the pockets of Communist party officials.

Every white country has been flooded with these old grannies. Firstly, those grannies need approval by the CCP to travel abroad. Most are very poor and would not readily have the means to undertake a trip for several months. Being of such low social status, the would never be able to get the necessary social credits to travel unless the CCP gave them a dispensation. They might also be prisoners who have had their sentences reduced in return for working as hookers. There is a very thin line between organized crime and the workings of the CCP. The same sort of things go on with North Korea and Burma where their governments flood the world with the ingredients to make ice. It's a great source of foreign currency.

[Dreamer4]

Interesting conspiracy at EngineDriver but I doubt it. The CCP gets billions of income from the export economy and from corporations such as Huawei, Alibaba, etc. They also have thousands of investments in western countries that bring back so much more money. They don't need these grannies to bring anything back. I've been to China last year in Nov and the thing is their cities are amazingly modern with the highest tech in the world. Their train system in Shanghai and Beijing put the world to shame. Their train stations are like 5 times the size of our Tullamarine Airport. However, once outside the main cities, the country people are still relatively poor. Most educated people move to the big city over there for work opportunities. However, there are still many people who don't have much education hence holiday travel / sex seems to be very attractive. Once they've earned enough, there are lots of illegal money transfer services to bring back their money. Remember China as 1. 4 billion people! Australia has 25 million, that's 0. 025 billion. It's mind boggling when I think about this. Therefore there will always be Chinese roaming around the world for all sorts of opportunities.

I don't want to get too much involved into politics here but our trade war with China at the moment I think is a bit silly. We will never be able to compete with them. With the Chinese, we have to stay close and influence them rather than being confrontational. That's just their culture. Another thing to note is the hard core CCP is still a very very small portion of the population. The vast majority of the Chinese population are good nice people. They just work hard, earn money to improve their lives. They access western media, watch Netflix, Facebook, YouTube, etc. Just like us by using VPN and the CCP can't do anything about it. People over there can live a fairly happy and comfortable life as long as they don't criticise the CCP. To them the CCP is still pretty good because what is the alternative? Potential chaos and probably a much slower economy like India and Indonesia? Eventually, I think China will change and become a democracy, but it has to be from within. This will happen when the next generation who studies overseas realise that there is nothing to be affraid of democracy. However, this will be a long hard journey as the CCP has so much control and this tiny group of people has everything to lose so they will do everything to make sure their interests are protected.

I guess the bottom line is if you have money, you can live like a king and have everything! I saw plenty of rich men in China going out with amazing looking young girls. We can do the same thing here too if we have the money!

P.S. The rise of China is our fault! We keep on wanting cheaper products so we give all the industries to them. My parents were involved in the clothing industry. We used to make lots of clothing here in Melbourne and I saw one by one going to China as it is cheaper to make clothing there. We have lost our car manufacturing industry and heaps more. It's too late now.


The following is only an opinion piece. Before anyone gets too excited, I have no evidence to back any of this up. Feel free to comment.

I am certain the flooding of the world sex markets by old Chinese women is the work of the CCP to earn hard foreign currency. The network is too well established for it not to be. It's never reported by the media. The need for sex by older men in rich white countries is the Achilles heel of the west and the CCP knows how to exploit it. I would think the trade would be worth billions annually on a global basis. Let's just say there are 200,000 Chinese sex workers abroad under the control of the CCP, spread out across the top 30 rich countries. Each one earns around $80 k a year doing sucky fucky. That's $16 billion in foreign currency straight into CCP coffers or into the pockets of Communist party officials.

Every white country has been flooded with these old grannies. Firstly, those grannies need approval by the CCP to travel abroad. Most are very poor and would not readily have the means to undertake a trip for several months. Being of such low social status, the would never be able to get the necessary social credits to travel unless the CCP gave them a dispensation. They might also be prisoners who have had their sentences reduced in return for working as hookers. There is a very thin line between organized crime and the workings of the CCP. The same sort of things go on with North Korea and Burma where their governments flood the world with the ingredients to make ice. It's a great source of foreign currency.

[Pahllus Maximus]

2 inch marshmallow in the rolls fat. Heh heh. Yeah, stop paying for old boilers. In China they are used to give pigs hand jobs at abattoirs to calm them down before "processing". Imagine their opinion of humans so desperate as to use them. Just head to the coliseum in south Melbourne for some fine fillies.

[DanTheMan]

Are brothels open yet? Eg: main course.

[Blue Bus]

2 inch marshmallow in the rolls fat. Heh heh. Yeah, stop paying for old boilers. In China they are used to give pigs hand jobs at abattoirs to calm them down before "processing". Imagine their opinion of humans so desperate as to use them. Just head to the coliseum in south Melbourne for some fine fillies.Is that right, they give handys?

[Genuine Lotus]

I guess the bottom line is if you have money, you can live like a king and have everything! I saw plenty of rich men in China going out with amazing looking young girls. We can do the same thing here too if we have the money!
A great synopsis Dreamer; how people see China and the world. You forgot to mention, last Tuesday China effortlessly landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon, collected 2 kg of Luna dust and back home, the second since 1970 / USA. It's the only thing the US democrats and republicans can agree on, is what to do with China? I grew up on a farm and when I was a kid, my parents said 30 years ago that Asia would be the new world order, the west can't compete. When you are a kid that doesn't mean much until you leave home and make your own judgements. I doubt very much whether the Chinese want to exchange our coal for their women, their strategic interests are far more focused leaving our politicians scratching their heads. With the recent exchange of words by our PM calling the Chinese belligerent and earlier, recalcitrant makes me cringe, two adjectives that weren't on my vocab. I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She's probably the only cabinet minister that understands the PRC people. She said in the wake of the recent stoush and fall out "we need to move with strategic calmness and without emotion".

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[DanTheMan]

A great synopsis Dreamer; how people see China and the world. You forgot to mention, last Tuesday China effortlessly landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon, collected 2 kg of Luna dust and back home, the second since 1970 / USA. It's the only thing the US democrats and republicans can agree on, is what to do with China? I grew up on a farm and when I was a kid, my parents said 30 years ago that Asia would be the new world order, the west can't compete. When you are a kid that doesn't mean much until you leave home and make your own judgements. I doubt very much whether the Chinese want to exchange our coal for their women, their strategic interests are far more focused leaving our politicians scratching their heads. With the recent exchange of words by our PM calling the Chinese belligerent and earlier, recalcitrant makes me cringe, two adjectives that weren't on my vocab. I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She's probably the only cabinet minister that understands the PRC people. She said in the wake of the recent stoush and fall out "we need to move with strategic calmness and without emotion".

Happy
Lotus.It's an easy thing to say, another thing to do. Penny Wong would make kowtowing to the PRC an art form.

Let's face it, if any of us had a few hundred million in the bank, we could have any woman you wanted. Those Chinese birds live and die by the almighty dollar.

[Engine Driver]

A great synopsis Dreamer; how people see China and the world. You forgot to mention, last Tuesday China effortlessly landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon, collected 2 kg of Luna dust and back home, the second since 1970 / USA. It's the only thing the US democrats and republicans can agree on, is what to do with China? I grew up on a farm and when I was a kid, my parents said 30 years ago that Asia would be the new world order, the west can't compete. When you are a kid that doesn't mean much until you leave home and make your own judgements. I doubt very much whether the Chinese want to exchange our coal for their women, their strategic interests are far more focused leaving our politicians scratching their heads. With the recent exchange of words by our PM calling the Chinese belligerent and earlier, recalcitrant makes me cringe, two adjectives that weren't on my vocab. I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She's probably the only cabinet minister that understands the PRC people. She said in the wake of the recent stoush and fall out "we need to move with strategic calmness and without emotion".

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.Penny Wong is a militant CFMEU aligned unionist. We all know from last time what happens when the left get hold of the keys to the Treasury. She's also a lezzo.

Anyhow, there are better political forums than ISG to discuss the virtues of socialism.

[Chocha Monger]

A great synopsis Dreamer; how people see China and the world. You forgot to mention, last Tuesday China effortlessly landed an unmanned spacecraft on the moon, collected 2 kg of Luna dust and back home, the second since 1970 / USA. It's the only thing the US democrats and republicans can agree on, is what to do with China? I grew up on a farm and when I was a kid, my parents said 30 years ago that Asia would be the new world order, the west can't compete. When you are a kid that doesn't mean much until you leave home and make your own judgements. I doubt very much whether the Chinese want to exchange our coal for their women, their strategic interests are far more focused leaving our politicians scratching their heads. With the recent exchange of words by our PM calling the Chinese belligerent and earlier, recalcitrant makes me cringe, two adjectives that weren't on my vocab. I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She's probably the only cabinet minister that understands the PRC people. She said in the wake of the recent stoush and fall out "we need to move with strategic calmness and without emotion".It does not matter what the Chinese people think or want. What matters is the Chinese Communist Party's plan. Making Australia their first major colony in the developed world. Australia's natural resources and farmland will be key in expanding the rise of a global Communist Empire ruled by Chinese masters. Once the New World Order is established, Aussie birds will travel to Beijing to perform BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS. They will have to learn the equivalent of "Show us your tits love" in Mandarin. Oz is the first domino to fall, and it all began at Keswick Island.

[Genuine Lotus]

Penny Wong is a militant CFMEU aligned unionist. We all know from last time what happens when the left get hold of the keys to the Treasury. She's also a lezzo.
Anyhow, there are better political forums than ISG to discuss the virtues of socialism.Engine; there will always be public scepticism when choosing PM's we've had three birds; a Peacock, a Hawke and now a Galah. USA is no different, a peanut farmer, a Hollywood actor, a Terminator an adulterist and a billionaire Jocker. This forum is an ideal platform to play the sex and politics game, ask Gladys Berejiklian and our own home-grown dysfunctional paedophiles. The whole world knows Penny Wong's ALP credentials and being out and proud big deal! Life's too short to be wound up and shackled with socialist, communist, Leftist, racist, homophobic barriers. Thanks for your post and Merry Christmas.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[Genuine Lotus]

Has anyone encountered a ladyboy (or 2) in any of the many dozen Thai massage shops around Melbourne? Not after brothels, must be a massage shop.
I have a theory that I want to put to the test....Sure Mate! I believe you but thousands wouldn't. A week ago, I was at the sisters, the grumpy landlady had a "new-girl" young and beautiful she said. Usual 1 HR with a quick chat in a pleasant room. Under a dim light tallish, slim and attractive. 30 on the back 30 on the front, an excellent face down massage working the shoulders the back the arse the legs and then the buttocks again. Half time flip and cover my privates with my modesty cloth. Girls get very disappointed with this thinking the door is closed. The table lamp shone on her re-sculptured face, good sized boobs and my wrist between her legs and hand clasping an arse cheek. Something didn't feel quite right, the rear-carriage so different, it's hard to explain. She kept giving a good leg massage and offered 50 HJ and said no big deal, you get this in every shop and declined. If the climate is right a BB pussy-slide. My wrist was still lodged in her crotch, my forfinger felt what was a ball sack or ding-a-ling strapped behind. OK, I was alerted but not alarmed and took my hand out and held hers, they were large and not elegant or consistent with a women and again offered a 50 HJ at 10 to full time. I remained pleasant and respectful towards her got dressed and saw her narrow hips and wide shoulders.

The following week I was upstairs at Cloud on Toorak having a look and she spotted me under a different name.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[Chocha Monger]

Sure Mate! I believe you but thousands wouldn't. A week ago, I was at the sisters, the grumpy landlady had a "new-girl" young and beautiful she said. Usual 1 HR with a quick chat in a pleasant room. Under a dim light tallish, slim and attractive. 30 on the back 30 on the front, an excellent face down massage working the shoulders the back the arse the legs and then the buttocks again. Half time flip and cover my privates with my modesty cloth. Girls get very disappointed with this thinking the door is closed. The table lamp shone on her re-sculptured face, good sized boobs and my wrist between her legs and hand clasping an arse cheek. Something didn't feel quite right, the rear-carriage so different, it's hard to explain. She kept giving a good leg massage and offered 50 HJ and said no big deal, you get this in every shop and declined. If the climate is right a BB pussy-slide. My wrist was still lodged in her crotch, my forfinger felt what was a ball sack or ding-a-ling strapped behind. OK, I was alerted but not alarmed and took my hand out and held hers, they were large and not elegant or consistent with a women and again offered a 50 HJ at 10 to full time. I remained pleasant and respectful towards her got dressed and saw her narrow hips and wide shoulders.

The following week I was upstairs at Cloud on Toorak having a look and she spotted me under a different name.

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.Was it the strong wrists, muscled shoulders, and raspy voice that made you decline the $50 pull on your pecker? Seems like there was much squeezing of her arse and feverish fondling before backing out from the prostate massage. You probably could have gotten it gratis. It does not make much sense leaving a dodgy rub-and-tug with blue balls and tipping generously.

[Cotos]

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[Engine Driver]

Sorry to disappoint all the Sinophiles on this forum. This article in The Australian today should dispel any doubt that the CCP is not involved in the rub and tug trade. Note that the shops all demanded cash payments. Code for tax evasion and money laundering. People in Melbourne are so naive.

" A Daniel Andrews staffer with Chinese Communist Party links has served as the secretary, director and chief marketing director of a mysterious Chinese international investment fund which last year established a US-listed joint venture worth almost AUD $70 m, and owns a massage chain with outlets at almost every major Melbourne shopping centre.

Nancy Yang, who works part time in the Victorian Premier's Mulgrave electorate office in Melbourne's southeast was listed in 2015 as holding a 1. 8 per cent stake in Arem Pacific Corporation, which floated on the US stock exchange in 2019 as part of a $US50 m joint venture.

Ms Yang's involvement in an international investment fund worth tens of millions of dollars is unusual given her relatively junior part time role in Mr Andrews' office and that of neighbouring Labor MP Meng Heang Tak. The electorate officer role attracts a full time equivalent salary of approximately $80,000.

Arem Pacific Corporation's website lists headquarters in Melbourne's Collins Street, the US city of Scottsdale, Arizona where it was founded in 1990, and Guangzhou, China, where its NASDAQ-listed joint venture launch was held in September 2019.

The website also details the company's ownership of the Zen Oriental Holistic Health and Green Palm Massage chains, which have outlets at major shopping centres across Melbourne including Chadstone, Melbourne Central, Victoria Gardens, Eastland, Northland and Highpoint, many of which demand cash only payment for services.

A document filed with the US stock exchange in 2015 lists Ms Yang among five company directors. "Ms Nancy Yang has been our Secretary and a Director since January 2014," the document reads. "From 2010 to the present, she has been Chief Marketing Director of the Company.

"From 2008 to 2009, she was a Visa and Evidencing Officer for the Chinese Embassy in Melbourne, Australia. She graduated with double Masters in Commerce and Business / Information Technology from RMIT University, Australia. Ms Yang brings to our Board of Directors several years of management, administration and quality control."

The Australian has previously revealed Ms Yang's posting in March of articles on social media suggesting coronavirus was created by the US and taken to China by the US Army, as well as her role as founder and chair for a decade of the CCP United Front-linked Melbourne Chinese Youth United Association, during which she helped to mobilise thousands of Chinese who travelled to Canberra to participate in an at-times violent counter-protest against human rights campaigners at the Olympic Torch relay in 2008.

The other five directors of the company include Chinese-born, Melbourne-based medical doctor Thomas Tang, who is CEO and president, chairman Rocco Scarpari, who is described as owning a small vineyard and orchard near Shepparton in northern Victoria, chief financial officer Allan Qiu who the document says was also CFO of "affiliated Australian company" Arem Marketing Corp, and Shandong University-educated Xin Jin, who as company vice president is described as being responsible for managing the company's "physiotherapy wellness business".

"We take pride in building long-term relationships with our clients," the company's website boasts. "Our stock is currently held by more than 500 shareholders. Besides its current physiotherapy & health chained outlets in Australia, Arem keeps expanding its business into profitable areas. " Neither Ms Yang nor Arem Pacific Corporation responded to requests for comment."

[Chocha Monger]

The CCP agent Fang Fang was busy compromising Midwestern city mayors and other politicians in the USA with her expert use of BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS. Then once she drained marshmallow sacks of her targets, she escaped back to her handlers in Beijing. Those who think that the CCP is not using their hardest working girls to infiltrate and subvert horny men in RWML are sorely mistaken.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1932820/chinese-spy-fang-infiltrate-politics/

[Dreamer4]

Ha ha, this Fang Fang is actually not bad looking, I would be happy to pay $200 for an hour with her.

Of course China uses beauty to for all sorts of purposes including espionage, financial gains, economic and technology intels, etc. But which country doesn't? The master of all of this is probably the US, western countries and Russia. The US probably has the most number of spies in the world and I wouldn't be surprised if they still operate within Australian government too. I sometimes feel that it's a bit unfair for the world to criticise China for doing things that the western countries have been doing for years and are still doing it now. The thing I find unfortunate for China is with espionage (or similar operations), a caucasian is much more easier to infiltrate say the Australian Government as compared to an Asian. A caucasion can just "blend" in, whereas an Asian will stand out, hence he / she is more likely to attract attention. I feel sorry for Asian politicians in Australia (and in western countries) at the moment, they often and can easily get "framed" by the media as a spy, working for the CCP.

The reverse is true also as it must be hard for the American to send a caucasian into China and infiltrate. Imagine in a CCP meeting, there is this white guy sitting there smiling and listening! Actually, I don't think three's any caucasian in the CCP at all. It must also be hard for the American to "recruit" local Chinese to be their spies, as there is that cultural mistrust. In China, there is also no transparent legal protection so if you get caught, you get shot and that's it so the locals wouldn't risk it.

Given the above, from what I've read and observed, the US and western countries, Australia included, have no idea how to deal with the rise of China. There is just no intels and the cultural is just some much different that it will take years to understand.

Not withstanding the above, as per my previous post, I still don't believe that the girls working at the are&T, MP are working for the CCP. They are just people looking for opportunities to make money (they may need to pay the gang for organising their trip here). Therefore just enjoy guys, I have nothing to hide anyway.


The CCP agent Fang Fang was busy compromising Midwestern city mayors and other politicians in the USA with her expert use of BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS. Then once she drained marshmallow sacks of her targets, she escaped back to her handlers in Beijing. Those who think that the CCP is not using their hardest working girls to infiltrate and subvert horny men in RWML are sorely mistaken.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1932820/chinese-spy-fang-infiltrate-politics/

[Engine Driver]

It's definitely the excitement of finding the unexpected that makes Melbourne mongers so addicted to Chinese rub and tugs. Yes, you never quite know what a granny fresh from the farm will provide. Having guaranteed sex with slim, blonde twenty somethings like Brandi, Kylie and Madison at the California Club for $200 is just too predictable and vanilla for them. Hahahaha.

[Berbatov]

I had a few hours free this arvo in the city before a meeting and I honestly had nothing better to do. So I went to the Paramount an old stomping ground I hadn't been to in 5 ish years. There's a few parlours set up. Pings Full body, Sabrina's and one other. I believe they're all run by the same people, but I could be wrong. Pings we're offering $50 for 60 minutes. Which is outrageous. Also the other two didn't have any people out of the front. So I would be going in blind. So I went with the old reliable Pings. I swear there were some of the same ladies there as there were in 2010 when I first started going. I was lucky to get the youngest girl who would still be in her late 30's. Oddest massage I've ever got. It was a borderline back rub and scratch at times. Which was sorta relaxing. The flip came and she did some rubbing of my legs for 2 minutes then grabbed the old boy. She said 40. I didn't have 40 cash on me. I forgot to go to the ATM beforehand, rookie error. I had 15 bucks, so wasn't happy but she gave me a HJ, wasn't the best. Wouldn't allow touching which is understandable. And then went back to back scratching.

Any one else been to the other 2? Or have any other recent experience at Pings?

[Genuine Lotus]

Was it the strong wrists, muscled shoulders, and raspy voice that made you decline the $50 pull on your pecker? Seems like there was much squeezing of her arse and feverish fondling before backing out from the prostate massage. You probably could have gotten it gratis. It does not make much sense leaving a dodgy rub-and-tug with blue balls and tipping generously.Choch, thanks foer your appraisal. I'm disappointed tho, that you narrowly define me as your typical feverish quivering dithering fondling monger that leaves with blue balls expecting something for nothing, that's not how it was or my style. Ladyboys don't carry the reputation for freebies. With no feeling or emotion why lay there like a starfish and empty, there's no value in that at all.

The following week the landlady had a young Japanese girl, Mehu. She dressed like a student with Micky Mouse tags and wasn't hot looking but plain with a round moon-like face almost nerdish just my type! 70 HR 30 on the back 30 on the front. An excellent face down massage working the shoulders the back the arse the legs. 30 m flip and cover my privates with my modesty cloth. I managed to catch her eye and cute face; within a minute I pulled her over with a sneaky kiss on the cheek and whispered in her hear and said "what else are we doing" Her cute Japanese accent was a turn on and she was surprised I had been to Japan x 2 and talked Japanessie stuff and felt well connected but needed to talk shop! 100 all off and said no way 50 is standard here. We agreed 50+20 for a BB pussy slide, she was 21 and cute. I came over on the PTV and thought to myself in 40-50 punts with youngish Chinese girls in the last year none have had decent boobs. I left her top on but un-hooked her 3-hook bra and felt the most beautiful young breasts from behind. I didn't over react but it was a turn-on to see the nicest young and budding breasts and beautiful colour too. They resembled the shape and size of those Italian Renaissance marble goddesses. Her lack of experience with HJ was not good, anyway, I was wet and hard and on she went, not on the base like usual but massaging the knob with the clit, in less than a couple of minutes I had come. The following week I rang the landlady and asked for her and told she's on holiday. I now know the universal Chinese meaning of she won't be back and young and budding. She gets 100 at her other western district shop which I can't give you the name of but was told, it would be nice to see you, but you must pay their prices. Ummm!

Happy hunting and punting.

Lotus.

[Engine Driver]

Went to this place for a massage. Nice, neat shop which looked like a very professional set up. Three young, slim Thai girls were on duty. Couldn't see their faces as they were all wearing masks. I assumed this place was completely legit as it's in posh Kew, shop was very clean and all girls were wearing professional looking uniforms. There was absolutely nothing to indicate anything other than a therapeutic massage was on offer.

Cost for 1 hour was $70 for cash or $75 for card. I would never pay by card at these places so the cash offer was fine.

I stripped off, covered myself with the towel and in walked Pappy. Very good massage, so I was convinced it was legit by now. At the 40 minute mark came the flip and she did not cover my equipment like at other legit places.

To my surprise she whispered whether I wanted something extra. I asked for the menu. The predictable standard bullshit was offered. $150 for take off, body slide + HJ. $100 for take off + HJ and $50 for just HJ. Hahahahaha. I politely declined. Had I taken the first item, that would have been $220 for a glorified wank. Hahahahaha. As previously written, you can get FS, CBJ, DATY, DFK and AR with a beautiful white girl at California Club for $200. I'd be crazy to pay this sort money to a Thai student for not having sex.

I said I only had $30 on me and she could take that for a HJ if she wanted to. She accepted the deal. Lousy HJ. She just started pulling my cock with no technique. To really punish me for the low tip, she stood just far away enough so I could not feel her ass. Hahaha.

We had 10 minutes to go after the HJ so she stretched me a bit and massaged my arms and chest.

Nothing really special to warrant another visit. Avoid.

[Brauninc]

Engine Driver is it wise to visit an rnt when you question others on visiting them? Your vehemently against these places and your review is evidence enough of how they have changed the landscape of the industry for good. We recently lost 2 brothels in South Melbourne, 466 city Road and 7 park st. We need 50 more brothels and 50 less rnt shops in my opinion.

[Kerrstar]

I have often wondered and admired our shadow Labour senator Penny Wong and thought, why she hasn't gone for the top job. She is a senator, the PM must come fom the lower house. Unless she resigns and seeks election for a lower house seat then she can't become PM.

[Engine Driver]

Engine Driver is it wise to visit an rnt when you question others on visiting them? Your vehemently against these places and your review is evidence enough of how they have changed the landscape of the industry for good. We recently lost 2 brothels in South Melbourne, 466 city Road and 7 park st. We need 50 more brothels and 50 less rnt shops in my opinion.What's a monger to do if they have sore neck and shoulders? Hahaha. I wasn't expecting any funny business here when I went in. This Thai place (not PRC) looked quite legit. I agree that the rub and tug joints are far more lucrative for the girls than working in a brothel. Had I fallen into the glorified wank routine, the girl would have pocketed a total of $185 as her cut and the shop would have got $35. And for that she wouldn't have put a cock in her mouth or pussy. A full blown prostitute at a brothel would be lucky to pocket $80 for 30 minutes of sucky fucky.

Note that I only paid $30 for the HJ and I was prepared to walk.

[ValueMonger]

Went to this place for a massage. Nice, neat shop which looked like a very professional set up. Three young, slim Thai girls were on duty. Couldn't see their faces as they were all wearing masks. I assumed this place was completely legit as it's in posh Kew, shop was very clean and all girls were wearing professional looking uniforms. There was absolutely nothing to indicate anything other than a therapeutic massage was on offer.

Cost for 1 hour was $70 for cash or $75 for card. I would never pay by card at these places so the cash offer was fine.

I stripped off, covered myself with the towel and in walked Pappy. Very good massage, so I was convinced it was legit by now. At the 40 minute mark came the flip and she did not cover my equipment like at other legit places.

To my surprise she whispered whether I wanted something extra. I asked for the menu. The predictable standard bullshit was offered. $150 for take off, body slide + HJ. $100 for take off + HJ and $50 for just HJ. Hahahahaha. I politely declined. Had I taken the first item, that would have been $220 for a glorified wank. Hahahahaha. As previously written, you can get FS, CBJ, DATY, DFK and AR with a beautiful white girl at California Club for $200. I'd be crazy to pay this sort money to a Thai student for not having sex.

I said I only had $30 on me and she could take that for a HJ if she wanted to. She accepted the deal. Lousy HJ. She just started pulling my cock with no technique. To really punish me for the low tip, she stood just far away enough so I could not feel her ass. Hahaha.

We had 10 minutes to go after the HJ so she stretched me a bit and massaged my arms and chest.

Nothing really special to warrant another visit. Avoid.I in my few ventures out since the end of lockdown has been pleasantly surprised by the charges on offer. $50 for nude decent HJ with some rummaging of the goods and kissing of the melons was one, second BS till completion and exploding over her melons the other, second offered an upgrade also of BBBJ for another 20. Both PRC or Taiwanese, students 21-25 maybe 6/7 who had been here the whole time, they need the money and will accept lower offers. If they have had no real money for 5 months there happy to drop their prices for less, as otherwise they have to have at least 1/2 extra hours booking to make up for the loss of tip. They're not stupid they know business is slow and they might not get another punter that day so you're are in the box seat.

[BrizLad]

She is a senator, the PM must come fom the lower house. Unless she resigns and seeks election for a lower house seat then she can't become PM.She is also in the opposition and does not have sufficient votes to even be a consideration.

[Chocha Monger]

I said I only had $30 on me and she could take that for a HJ if she wanted to. She accepted the deal. Lousy HJ. She just started pulling my cock with no technique. To really punish me for the low tip, she stood just far away enough so I could not feel her ass. Hahaha.Engine Driver, you are a modern day Tantalus. Tantalus was thrown out of Olympus and after he died, he was punished for eternity; he was made to stand in a pool of water, right under the branches of a fruit tree. However, when he tried to reach for a fruit, the branches would go higher and out of reach, while when he tried to drink a sip of water, the waters of the pool would recede.

[Engine Driver]

Engine Driver, you are a modern day Tantalus. Tantalus was thrown out of Olympus and after he died, he was punished for eternity; he was made to stand in a pool of water, right under the branches of a fruit tree. However, when he tried to reach for a fruit, the branches would go higher and out of reach, while when he tried to drink a sip of water, the waters of the pool would recede.Thank you always for your words of wisdom Chocha Monger.

I thought I was more like the Roman goddess Disciplina, with her virtues of frugalitas and severitas. Hahaha. Putting that into the context of the grubby world of rub and tugs, if the quoted price for a HJ is more than $30, just walk gentlemen.

[Rich Mahogany]

Had a shocker today. I went to Paramount Center. I'm kind of surprised to say it but I had never been there before. There's seriously AMPS everywhere in there, it's unbelievable. After reading this very forum, I decided I'd try Ping's based on the $30/30 min fee. As I'm walking in the direction of Ping's, a lady who is bordering on elderly is waving me over to one of the AMPS on the other side of the center. I ignore her, walk into Ping's, pay the $30 and lie down on the table. I'm there 2 minutes and none other than that very same old lady walks in to give me a massage. Wild. I mean you generally have a sneaking suspicion that these places are all owned by the same people but to have the staff switching between two businesses located within 10 m of eachother is something else.

But this lady was a shocker. I must admit I didn't look at her much at all but I think she was even wearing an apron of some sort. Lunch Lady Doris. Must have been 65 years old. Now I'm lying there thinking 'geez am I going to sink this low and let a geriatric jerk me off?' No, I decide, definitely not. I'll just take the massage and bail. And this massage is awful. She's just rubbing her hands all across my torso at speed like it's Wack A Mole but instead of wacking you've got to cover them in oil. I want to just get up and leave but I'm covered in the stuff so I just lie there and bare it.

She flips me over and makes a handjob gesture and five fingers, I just shake my head. She holds up 3 fingers and I'm stunned by the speed at which she's happy to knock 40% off her asking price. I shake my head. She's talking in her native tongue, I got no idea. She says 'young' and walks out yelling. Another lady comes in, maybe early 40's, average looker. To be honest on any other day I would have taken a HJ from this new entrant to the room but at this point I am so over it I just say 'nah it's ok' and she bails. Old lady returns and kind of glares at me like 'shit man now I've got to rub this dude down for another 15 minutes'. She proceeds to give me the laziest rub down in history, which ends in her just rubbing the same spots on my calf muscles for what must have been 7 minutes before just walking out of the room unannounced. I put my clothes on and walk out of the room and into the reception area, mamasan glares at me too and I leave. I only lost $30 (and 30 minutes) but I will definitely think twice before trying my luck again.

[Blue Bus]

I've only ever been to Pings twice. The first time was novel, ie curtain walls, curtain doors. The second time was just straight out bad. Both times as I left the thinking wasn't, wow that was a good massage or wow that was a fun experience. It was just a feeling of, O well, at least it didn't cost much. You get what you pay for.

[LostWithinDays]

Gday all,

There is a massage shop beside Victoria market with a questionable name that seems to have mostly Japanese therapists working.

I visited recently and paid $50.00 for a great 30 minute massage.

Bodyslide no cannot.

Topless no cannot.

However $120.00 for a hand job is the price available.

As previously mentioned I'll give that a miss.

Have a great xxmas all and cheers for the many laughs we share.

Lwd.

[AussieGaigin]

Which sh\op is Ping's?

I went to Paramount a few years ago, and visited the Thai shop on the right hand side looking towards Bourke St.

Got an older Thai MILF, massage was average, and her (bartered from $50) $30 HJ was woeful.

[Engine Driver]

Which sh\op is Ping's?

I went to Paramount a few years ago, and visited the Thai shop on the right hand side looking towards Bourke St.

Got an older Thai MILF, massage was average, and her (bartered from $50) $30 HJ was woeful.As you enter Paramount Centre from Bourke Street, Pings is the shop at the back on the right hand side. Pings is a rub and tug chain. Mrs Ping has three shops. The first one was on Victoria Street, Richmond. All workers are old PRC boilers. Last year she employed a chubby, but very sexy Malaysian Chinese girl at Paramount. She spoke good English and was a lot younger. She would lift up her skirt and let me play with her ample booty during a nicely executed HJ. She would only ask for a $30 tip. I can't remember her name but my report on her last year is buried somewhere here.

[Blue Bus]

From the Burke street entrance it's on the right, right at the back, same level.

[Engine Driver]

I saw the super hot, super cute Vietnamese pocket rocket Hannah today at Eden Massage at Victoria Street, Abbotsford.

I chose the $75 for 1 hour option.

Wow, it blew me away. I've had over 1,000 massages in my mongering career, and this would easily be in the Top 10 for sure. Hannah gives it 110% and at the end of the massage I felt like I was robbing her. That's how good her service was. She's a tiny girl, but don't let that put you off. She is very nimble and flexible. She climbs on your body and kneads you expertly using her whole body. It's like she's trained as a gymnast or acrobat before. I had this type of massage in Thailand once, but most of the Asian girls in Australia are just too lazy to put in any effort.

She started on the HJ from behind even before the flip. This girl knows her way around a dick. I was about to blow within 2 minutes haha.

On the flip, she started stroking my cock while sitting in front of me, with my legs over her thighs. She asked if I wanted any extra services to make me happy. As if anyone would be able to decline at this point haha. So HJ was $30, topless HJ was $50 and nude HJ was $70. I did not ask about body slides, blow jobs or fucky fucky. Girls in this trade all have a price for whatever you want, so ask away if that's your thing.

This girl is so fucking cute I had to see her naked, so I agreed to the $70 tip. When she took her sexy dress off and stood there in her black thong, I nearly lost it. She has a magnificent set of bodacious tatas. I helped her rip off her panties and I was surprised to see a full Bush. Yes, a Bush which has never ever been trimmed before. She stroked my cock and encouraged me to suck her tits and to finger her pussy. I didn't need much encouragement.

She then cleaned me up and gave me a head and neck massage in the remaining 10 minutes.

I would rate this service a 10. A rub and tug just doesn't get any better. She was friendly, cheerful and had such a positive attitude that it restores your faith in humanity. What a contrast from those Chinese grannies at Pings.

If you want to see her, best to book ahead as she is popular. She works 6 days a week and has Mondays off. So they don't switch girls on you when you ring, Hannah is 25 years old, 5 foot tall, has Ccup tits and is smoking hot. Don't waste your money with the other girls here, especially the tall, braindead Taiwanese girl with glasses.

I'm surprised none of you fuckin mongers have given Hannah a marriage proposal yet to take her off the market hahahaha.

[Goboy]

Engine Driver is it wise to visit an rnt when you question others on visiting them? Your vehemently against these places and your review is evidence enough of how they have changed the landscape of the industry for good. We recently lost 2 brothels in South Melbourne, 466 city Road and 7 park st. We need 50 more brothels and 50 less rnt shops in my opinion.Brauninc.

They rise from the ashes 7 Park has reopened Maybe the licences are too good to let go.

Goboy.

[Brauninc]

Brauninc.

They rise from the ashes 7 Park has reopened Maybe the licences are too good to let go.

Goboy.Fantastic news, location is very good still. Let's hope someone saves 466 too.