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I am surprised that WSG have a discussion on LTR. 100% of the guys here are interested in sex, not relationship. LTR or STR. If you are in a true relationship and if your spouse/girlfriend is not approval of your relationship or you will not accept her to sleep with any men she likes, then you are 1. cheating on her 2. you are truly not interested to have a relationship. Nothing wrong with not wanting a relationship, however it is not logically to put a discussion topic on LTR or STR on WSG. It is like putting a topic on geology on WSG, doesn't make sense. :)
It all depends on your time-frame! On this board a short-term relationship is 24 hours or less. Long-term means twice. By the way, could we add a geology topic???
. Peace, -P
No shit? I thought STR was 20 minutes and one condom and LTR was 45 minutes and two condoms. But then, I'm kind of a dickhead.
Geology rocks! Let's do it!
Easy Rider
06-03-02, 03:19
anywhere but the usa. marriage, like so many good things in this country, is being destroyed by our immoral and inhumane lawyers. how can a woman resist divorce court, when she gets paid so handsomely to throw in the towel early, cash out, and go find another one?
my second wife, if there is to ever be one, will not speak english, will not have a visa, and not give a shit about ever coming to this country. thank god i've lived overseas much of my life, and can tell the difference.
whatever happened to diving boards at public pools, new cars without speed governors, disipline in schools, resonably priced medical services, hamburgers cooked medium rare, and an honest divorce lawyer asking the warring parties, "are you sure you two can't work this thing out"????
you'll never hear that from a greedy, bottom feeding, american lawyer.
ltr in america? sorry young men. its cheaper to pay $100 once a week to a professional personal services provider, than get married. you don't have to give up on a ltr. why i've been seeing some of my girls for three years now. not weekly, but enough to call it a ltr.
easyrider
i am not sure it's the lawyer. a friend of mine just completed his divorce. lawyers for both sides came to an agreement and presented the settlement to the court for final approval. the court modified the settlement which in effect double up the alimony to the wife. the truth is, if your wife proposed any divorce settlement, you'd better take her terms and not fight it. you should thank her for not taking you to court. usually you will lose more by having your case adjudicated in court.
sorry to have mis-spoken myself in the prior posting. allow me to make some clarification. this is the story, my friend's ex-wife proposed terms of divorce settlement however he felt he could not accept the terms (mostly about the $$), so he decided to litigate in court. i along with his lawyer advised him to accept the settlement but he was so emotional and decided to fight this out in the court. at the end of the trial, the judge gave everything the woman wanted plus double up the the alimony payment she originally proposed. rubbing salt to wounds, the judge (a male judge) admonished my friend in open court for a series of misconducts (apparently he bought the woman's side of story) and had my friend pay court cost and the woman's lawyer fees. now, bear in mind my friend is no wife beater or a bad father. he did cheat on his wife by fooling around but definitely does not deserve that harsh treatment. the court truly ruined his finances. in a way, i also blame my friend for this, he could have accepted whatever the ex-wife asked for and moved on. yet he got too emotional and fought. the end result huge economic loss. dumb dumb dumb.
First of all it looks that this topic has become of worst LTR rather than best LTR.
If LTR means marriage then India is the best bet. No doubt in India marriages are longest one in the world. The divorce is rare as far as Hindus are concerned. The ancient society (even now a days - the society having modern life style, stick to this) had no idealogy of divorce.
It may be difficult to get a woman from India for marriage but once you get it, sure it can be a life time relationship.
khun..in India women have historically been expected to commit suicide after the death of their husband . They loose all of their possessions to the husbands family....... I do think our courts have screwed this country up badly, but we are not the only society to have dumb marriage laws. ..Maybe the trick is to marry a women who is on her second marriage so you can help her spend the first husbands money.
better yet. don't ever get married. unless you married a woman many times wealthier than you, you have to support her, feed her and if you have children with her, more child support payment. why would you want someone else to help spend your money? also, why chain yourself to the same woman overtime? even worse, you are married to the same woman, then you go out and cheat on her, then she found it out, then she divorce you. man, since she got you cheating on her, the court of land is going to be harsh on you. if you have no children with her, be prepared to hand over half of what you have to her. if you have children with her, be prepared to hand over 2/3 of your total wealth plus losing the kids. unless the guy is a mental, i don't see any reason you should get married.
brett, that practice(of women commiting suicide) is 1000's of years old and outlawed today. India today is a democratic secular country and akin to (only a lot poorer ) than the usa.
For best ltr Indian women are the best, I do not know why, maybe they are just conditioned that way by their families and they will never never cheat on you- you can take that to the bank
Also she will do anything to save a marraige and I could go on but this is the wsg after all, not aunt annes advice coloumn.
ltr is the anti wsg, why are we even discussing it here........?
originally posted by easyrider
[ whatever happened to diving boards at public pools, new cars without speed governors, disipline in schools, resonably priced medical services, hamburgers cooked medium rare, and an honest divorce lawyer asking the warring parties, "are you sure you two can't work this thing out"????[/i]
hear, hear (though i'm not so sure i want to try the medium-rare hamburger in some of these countries like thailand).
as for he main topic, the best i've seen so far is the philippines. didn't think i'd ever get married (and still haven't), but the girl that came by far the closest was from there. some of 'em are real sweethearts and can really get to you. getting married and especially bringing one over can be a different matter and problems have been reported, but filipinas will definitely make you not want to go after american women.
i'm languishing up here in the great white north, toronto, and have only been in one country where i could really relate to and get on with the women (the solomon islands). the economy sucks there now and they have been killing white people in the capital, so it isn't an option to go back.
my question is, not so much just about the faithfulness and such of the women from a given country, but how accessible are they to a one who is definitely not rich and not from their country. I've been to Vietnam and the Czech Republic and nationality and language as well as sexual prudery are problems there just like anywhere.
I've heard mention of the Phillipines and India, but isn't there a lot of anti-white feeling there? Also, i'm not sure what my chances of landing working would be (i'm a freelance journalist,graphic artist and teacher).
cheers
mick
To MC-Luna
I know nothing about India, so cannot comment, but I can tell you that there is virtually NO "anti-white" sentiment in the Philippines. Quite the opposite, Filipinos tend to really like and respect white people. Example: When I went to the casino with my wife, (I'm white, she's Filipino), we were both wearing Jeans.
I was allowed in, but not my wife.
Furthermore, even though you aren't rich, you still have much more than the average Filipino, so you would be considered a great catch, regardless of your age, weight, looks, etc.
The exchange rate for western currencies is very favorable, so it does not take much cash to have a great vacation in the Philippines.
I would not go to the far south, where there is a large Muslim population, and the Manila area can be expensive, but the central Philippines (Visayas), including Cebu, Bohol, Negros, Etc. are just great, in my opinion.
LTR....meaning whatever you want it to mean, from several days to forever, would be very easy to achieve, and you would not be dissappointed in the quality of the ladies, both looks and loyalty.
By the way, it is a Catholic Country, so there is some prudery, but being a tropical Country, there is also much pent up passion, which is just aching to be let loose.
Good Luck!
Originally posted by mc_luna
I've heard mention of the Phillipines and India, but isn't there a lot of anti-white feeling there?
Also, i'm not sure what my chances of landing working would be (i'm a freelance journalist,graphic artist and teacher).
cheers
mick
As far as India I know, there is no hatered towards any race, nation or religions. (Except Pakistanis). But there is not much of charm also to get married with white skin people. There is always a suspician about faithfulness of white males.
There is no need of people to come & work there (in India). May be you can think of working in Thailand.
Thanks for the feedback, Tomtom and Khun. It sounds like you've been around the islands a bit Tomtom. Im not fat or ugly or old, but I don't get Canadian women, literally. Supposedly there are more women than men in Toronto, and certainly lots of beautiful and charming women of all hues here, but its very hard to keep their attention (height may be a factor, i'm 5'6. It wasn't a factor in Hanoi,Vietnam, but they distrusted all foreigners and were extreme prudes or *****s there, nothing in between.)
My big question is , can one find a girl with like interests, such as art and culture,in Filipines? I don't mean just my culture, but world culture. I guess I haven't gone there yet because a)I would have trouble finding work there and making money and b) a lot of the girls i've seen from there marry old guys with a good pension and assets. I'd actually need someone who wanted me for my body and mind as well as my passprt and earnings. Is that possible or probable there?
cheers
mick
mick_luna@yahoo.ca
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Try on the net
You can get a job of Teacher in Thailand as there are huge demand of teachers in International Schools, native english speaker (means white skin).
Getting a girl is the most easy job, you can select your soulmate.
Yes, i've heard a bit about Thailand as well, but still wonder about finding someone who is interested in me and not just my passport and money. Also, the Bangkok and other heavily touristed areas don't interest me, as I don't want to be seen as just another sex tourist. i wouldn't mind teaching a bit there, but i know the money is pretty shitty compared to here or other parts of asia
cheers
mick
it is definitely possible in the phillipines. take some time choosing the right girl. also for serious relationships stay away from girls in the bar and pros. but you can definitely find a woman who cherishes you and not your wealth.
Thanks for the info Cool et al. What areas do you think are especially good in the Phillipines, or in Thailand? I suppose to find someone interested in the arts and culture one would look in a city of a certain size.
Also, is anyone aware of potential opportunities for setting up an eco-tourist ranch/lodge or something like that? Heard of anyone who's done it successfully? I looked into doing it with my then girlfriend and her parents in the Solomon Islands, but getting enough traffic to make it worthwhile would have been a problem. i haven't been there (near Gizo) since 98, but hear its gotten worse due to war in the capital.
cheers
mick
mick_luna@yahoo.ca
I LOVE LATINAS
07-14-02, 02:50
I have come to realize that I am losing interest in anything long term with american women. Even women from other races that are not white born here eventually turn into the greedy women white women are. My plans are to leave this country in a few years for good with plenty of cash to live like a king where the dollar is strong and the women are beautiful and faithful. I am getting to know mexico pretty well and am interested in going there. Anyone have any advise for other Latin Countries and what are the best ways to meet women in latin america. aLSO if u teach english there does your spanish have to be perfect too?
Originally posted by I LOVE LATINAS
I have come to realize that I am losing interest in anything long term with american women. Even women from other races that are not white born here eventually turn into the greedy women white women too?
American women are okay but they do get on my nerves and since I moved overseas I have learned that I, for one, don't have to put up with that shit. American women have somehow gotten the impression that they're the only game in town. I know better than that.
There are enough women in the world so that if any one of them give you grief you can move on. And, when the one who is good gets a little worn out, you can move on again.
CBGBConnisur
07-15-02, 00:43
Tocsin, American women ok you say? So certain are you? American women are bottom of the barrel bitchez, sure there are some attractive beauties but they are so few in proportion to the population that they have so much power over men, that men run through hoops for their affection. No more than one in ten American women are attractive. Go to Europe, and its 7 out fo every 10 women are attractive. Europe has a much higher ratio of beautiful women as well as higher absolute numbers. I could never deal with an American women after my European encounters, never. AMERICAN WOMEN FUCKEN SUCK!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by CBGBConnisur
Tocsin, American women ok you say? So certain are you? American women are bottom of the barrel bitchez, sure there are some attractive beauties but they are so few in proportion to the population that they have so much power over men, that men run through hoops for their affection. No more than one in ten American women are attractive. Go to Europe, and its 7 out fo every 10 women are attractive. Europe has a much higher ratio of beautiful women as well as higher absolute numbers. I could never deal with an American women after my European encounters, never. AMERICAN WOMEN FUCKEN SUCK!!!!!!!!
Some AMerican women are ok and some are not. My preferences are not for American women but just because a woman is American doesn't mean I can't have a good rime with her either. If I used the same logic you apply to American women in order to make a "pre-judment" about WSG posters, I'd think everyone on this board was a dickless moron whose only talent was being able to spit out loads of bullshit while having his head stuck up his ass. Thanks for your support.
CBGBConnisur
07-15-02, 02:34
Well, Tocsin if I had to decide between American and European women, I will forever pick the latter. I'm not being pre-judgmental, heck this is based on my experience. And I like Europe when it comes to meeting women.
I don't know many American women, but as an Australian it wasn't till I picked a non-white, english-speaking African lady did I find my true soul-mate. For her, it was a bonus as whites are considered a better husband (less likely to beat) than African or mixed-race men. The best thing I ever did was marry a non-white.
Hey CBGB, it's nice to see that you make the same post over and over again in other threads besides the "American Woman" thread. Refreshing. You really do sound like a broken record player. No wonder US Babes won't give you the time of day. Go ahead. Move to Europe. Once the women you meet there get over the novelty of your "cute" American accent and begin to realize how full of bitterness, hatred and anger you are, you won't be able to get any pussy over there either. I suggest you change your attitude or commit suicide. :-) Whatever option you choose, please do it soon cuz I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing you go on and on and on and on and on and on...saying the same FUCKING thing over and over again. Jesus. What a pain in the ass you are.
hey jwny72 or whtever, CBGB, is the only guy who speaks his hearts out, if you do not like it do not read it, why you bother so much. just enjoy wsg don't criticise, common, its the only place we can get any real info, whtsoever, and if 10 guys like you bend on breaking everyones head, it will be all over.
CBGB, great !! keep on the work, you are doing only good to the knowledge seekers, its the guys like you who shows the road to the trannees like us. go on an on an on ......if there are 10 guys to criticise , there are thousands behind you silently admiring :-)
well, i'm from india, and hey, about the miss universe thing, my friend you are profoundly mistaken, its all rigged up, so that multinatiional companies can set there cosmetics business in india. its still a developing country, and very very very reserved. only europe and southamerica have chances not in hundred yrs will india be like that in love and sex. well i have not gone outside of india, however, by your accounts, you will be terribly horrified if you think of pursuing the "ideas' here. it simply won't work here.
Thanks for all the writings you do, over here, well , if i go outof india will i be able to tell my experiences.....thank's a lot .
here in india the only thing you can expect is plenty of religion god and spirituality. if you be ever in distress and want to seek god come to india and for no other purpose..
have goood day..
enlighter,
If you're in favor of what CBGB says, than I have to assume that you haven't read many of his posts. Check out the "American Women" topic. He has essentially been saying the exact same thing over and over again in that topic (and now, having just visited this topic for the first time the other day, I see he's saying the same thing elsewhere too). He repeats himself endlessly without offering any kind of insight, and what he's saying isn't even valid. He states, over and over, that ALL American Women are horrible, materialistic, hard-nosed b i t c h e s, without exception. I'll grant him that some very definately are, but there are good and bad people absolutely everywhere. His assertions are gross generalizations, and what he says is patently untrue. He's essentially preaching a kind of predjudice, and I'm going to challenge him on it. Sorry if that bothers you. :-)
enlighter...I have to assume that as somebody who has not left India you may believe the things you read on this board. The truth is that just as the things written here about India were wrong, many of the things that you read here about other countries are also wrong. I don't want to pick on individual posters here, but a few guys here are very angry that they can't get attention from American women and are saying bad things about the women rather than face their own shortcommings. Some go so far as to make up fantasy lives in other countries where imaginary women fall at their feet everytime they walk down the street. The truth is women in all countries are mostly the same. If a man can dress well, speak in a civil manner and earn a decent living he will have no trouble finding women who will want to marry him..... If he is looking for quick sex, he is going to have to pay for it.
Rabo Verde
09-20-02, 09:51
LOL here's my two cents, after 300+ ho's in 100+ countries:
American women have turned so bitchy and demanding, that we have had to turn into wimps just to please them or at least not get sued for sexual harassment. Because of our de-balling, we Gringos seem very sweet to non-U.S. women.
In the meantime, in 99% of the world, a girl isn't worth dogshit. Hell in Thailand and China and many other countries a daughter is WORSE than nothing, because Dad has to save and pay a dowry to some guy to marry her!!!! Thus, most 3rd world men treat their women like shit, and the women learn to be sweet and subservient, so as not to get hit and join the SLAPAHO tribe.
Result: American men treat *****S better than 3rd world men treat their WIVES! When I meet a chica in Brasil, Thailand, Nicaragua, Cebu, Seoul, etc., that I really LIKE, I take her to dinner, maybe even a movie, buy her a few trinkets, ask about her family, etc. Heck, if she is nice and sweet, I even open doors for her! Basically, I am trying to recreate an American "date", as I have been taught bvy demanding American women.
Meanwhile, she is playing the subservient role, hanging on my arm, saying I rove yoo sooo mush!!!! and cutting my food and wiping my arse for me, as SHE has been taught by the demanding macho males of her country.
And heck to her, this isn't a fate worser than death, she is staying in an A/C motel, watching my big color TV and eating well. Otherwise she would be married, with 6 kids, to some macho loser back in the village who hits her, and she would be walking the rice paddies behind the buffalo every day, or working in front of a sewing machine for $4 a day. And when it's all over, I give her a month's salary just for hanging out at a luxury hotel that she could never get into without me, and rolling around for an hour with a guy who is nicer, cleaner, and less rough than any local man would be! It is what we call in business a WIN-WIN situation!
The irony is that we call this a GFE: Girl Friend Experience. Well I am not as bitter as some, because I have dated over 100 U.S. women, but I have NEVER had a U.S. girlfriend who gave me a "GFE" like, say ummm Carla in Brasil, or Tina in Argentina... or Goob in Pattay (ahh memory lane, pass the handcream!!!)
In the meantime, ironically, it is great for THEM too, because they have told me that I treat them better as a ho, than any Brasilian/Thai/Argentinian/Czech/Ozzie/Flip/Korean man would treat his WIFE!!!
In other words, we have been so pussywhipped by American women, and they have been so mistreated by their local men, that we seem very sweet and romantic to EACH OTHER! Ain't THAT a laugh???? Well, as I said to my buddy the other day as we were siting in a 3rd world massage parlor, all things considered, I would rather be the one sitting here and drinking beer and choosing a girl, than to be one of the hundred girls smiling back at us with numbers on their dresses. Just remember, it's a tough life, and, but for fate, THAT COULD BE YOU OR YOUR SISTER, so treat em with a little respect.
I say that the bitchy American women should hook up with these abusive villagers and see what they take for granted from us American men. Meanwhile the sweet, caring foreign women are right for us because we treat women like queens and the foreign women treat us like kings. We would meet our right partners if us Americans and the foreigners switched partners. The foreign men need bitchy feminist American women to put them in their places and us American men and the foreign women need the loving and caring attitudes we would give each other. In fact, my relationships in Brazil were a thousand times better than the relationships I had with American women. Not to mention the sex was better and I didn't have to wait 3-5 dates for even a kiss. In Brazil, I had sex with the Brazilian girl the first night of dating (protected of course to prevent illegitimate kids). Actually, now I would like a family from a foreign woman instead of from an American woman. I however, since I an Chinese in the racial sense, had to prove I was American by speaking fluent English. In fact, Rosie (short for Rosengela) thought I was from China until I opened my mouth and spoke fluent English. She then found out I was American. American men have a reputation in Brazil of being not only rich, but caring and party lovers. Maybe my American status got me laid or maybe she wanted to experiment with an Asian guy. Asian guys are also worshipped in brazil. Brazilians understand that most of their technology comes from Japan so they think that I am technologically intelligent. In fact, unlike in America where I ocassionally get into a fight or get insulted for being Asian, I get a lot of praise from the Brazilian people. I speak semi-fluent Portugese so I would understand or catch on if they insult me or at least the girl I dated would tell me but no one in Brazil insulted me.
I read many of the post here and my opinion is not drastically different. I don't know if it actually "American Women" or Just our American way of life.
I work with some women who were born and brought up in China but are here for the last few years. Couple of them have not lot their roots and are humble and very nice and decent. But some have turned outright bitchy. They claim how have all this freedom here, where as in China they have bow to their husbands and suck their entire lives. One of them also explained how when she lived with her husband in China she was so oppressed and now she says, I have so much options, I don't care for him and I can dump him anytime and he does all the laundry & cooking too.
Damn, are we creating these monsters out of women. Is this what we call freedom. There dosen't not seem to be any equality just threat and coersion to stay married.
I am a single guy, the more and more I see this I really doubt if you can find someone. Even if you find a nice girl outside the US they mabe become the ***** monsters thru association it seems.
Phish,
You are absolutely correct. I have seen so many Asian women come here, and within a matter of months, they are transformed from sweet, loving companions, to raging, materialistic cunts, who are every bit as awful, if not worse, than their American sisters! It truly IS an impossible situation, as long as we insist on living in the U.S.
I agree that foreign women turn bitchy when they come to America. The American influence doesn't happen the moment she steps off the boat though but it sometimes takes time or she has to meet the wrong person. I almost got married to a Cuban immigrant I met while teaching Math in a City University of NY, Kingsborough Community College. She was very nice and respectful towards me when I first met her. She just got her citizenship in the US when she entered high school so I met her during her fourth year in the US. Two years after I first dated her and got engaged to her, she met a feminist ***** named Martha in New York University, the school Nury transferred to after 2 years, who taught her the American ways of "freedom". Martha brainwashed my ex-fiancee, Nury, into believing that women have the true power of the household and that men should be puppets. Martha also told Nury to quit working out with me and eat fast foods with her and told her to "be her own person and in charge of her man". This was an extreme change in Nury's character, from a loving and caring woman to a complete neo-feminist *****. I don't know what I did to deserve this but I was very loving and respectful towards her. I always listened to Nury and solved her problems, bought her things she needed and wanted, and cared deeply for her and I never even physically or mentally abused her but after meeting Martha, Nury started being abusive. It's not really that we are nice to these women or overspoil them but it is the American influence. If I lived in Cuba with Nury, she would never have met such an American neo-feminist ***** like Martha and we would still be together. This is why I'd like to retire in Brazil and marry a much younger, much prettier and less shallow girl.
Manofkosice
10-06-02, 23:20
What chuponalgas says is true in my experience.
By the way, it's true that the situation in Europe is a little better than the US, but there are big differences within. Those of use who live in the North-West of Europe see women from Eastern Europe in the way that some of you guys see women from Latin countries.
One problem here is that the girls are more conservative and less materialistic than their western counterparts - sounds great, but the disadvantage is that means that they won't usually have sex with you just for a visa or because they think you are rich (professionals aside of course).
On the other hand they are all looking for the right men. I live in an area where there are almost no westerners (Kosice in Slovakia), but the girls are trying to find themselves a good man, and make sure to dress themselves well at all times and try to look pretty all the time - the main street looks like a fashion catwalk at times. The girls have difficulty finding a good man though, because the local men are almost all openly chauvinist alcoholics. When you get to know a girl and she works out that you are different (ie that you are a closet chauvinist alcoholic, who can actually control when he misbehaves) then you have a good chance of getting into a L-T relationship with a girl who behaves and looks much better than her western counterparts, and who also has not had lots of previous boyfriends.
Don't know the situation about needing Spanish to teach English in Mexico, but out here you don't need to speak the local language to teach advanced students (there was no English teaching under communism, so even most professional teachers have average English (having learnt from books, or other teachers who had learnt from books), and if English is your native language then you will get a job easily).
Just wondering as a Black man what are the best countries to go to? This is a great site but one thing that may need to be taken more into account is race. Many of the same countries that worship white skin, dislike the opposite. I know being American negates some of this, but whats's the deal?
I'm not here to make any moral judgements, but from a practical point of view perhaps I need to interpret these country reviews through a different lense so to speak. It's ironic, but a friend told me a blackman in Germany or Amsterdam would do just as well <or better> with non pro's than with pro's. I recognize these are not 3rd world countries we are talking about here,so that may be a factor. Conversely I'm told some Thais, Dominicans, and other dark skinned peoples have varying degrees of disdain for dark skin and therefore may charge a black man more than the usual rates. Comments? Opinions?
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Manofkosice
10-17-02, 20:12
In Europe at least the best countries to go to as a black man would be the western ones (which is unlucky as the East is better in lots of ways).
Your black skin will be most attractive in countries where there are few black men (like 1 percent of the whole population), as most of the girls will not have known a black man and you will be their one chance. In countries where there are lots of black people (like 5-10 percent as in UK, France) you will be just like a normal guy (so you won't have extra luck with the girls). In countries where there are virtually no black people (usually former communist countries) then there will be lots of predjudice against you - partly because people are not used to black people (except as gangster rappers on TV, which doesn't exactly help), and if you read about the treatment of the Roma/Gypsies in most eastern european countries you will see they are quite racist anyway (like USA in the 50s).
So I think your friend was probably right about Germany - it has few blacks, but it also has a non-predjudiced attitude - that's your ideal combination to make it with non-pros.
manofkosice,
Thanks, that's what I figured. I heard Iceland would qualify too....
You white guys are lucky, you are the shit in Asia, Africa , and South America.
That is because the white guys are known to have the money. Some foreigners think black men are poor. The only thing that will negate this is the fact that you are American so by all means mention that you are American. When I went to the cave club in DR, all the women flocked to me because I was a well dressed Asian American guy. Nobody sat next to my black friend who looked like a Domican local and he spoke fluent spanish so he was thought to be poor and abusive like the DR men. When I mentioned he was American in broken spanish, the girls started sitting next to him also. American men are known to treat their ladies right, especially the brothas. They are known to spoil their women and not to abuse them unlike DR men. Both of us walked out with women just by saying we are American and that's what makes me proud to be one overseas.
I am black and I went to Brazil to see some friends the women were really receptive! Especially the mulatas (some have blue eyes)! Just go to any fast food restaurant and speak english little and they will start to flirt!
I also heard Chile is a good place to go for brothers!
Also I dated a Columbian girl in the U.S. She told me that there is a island where White European and White American women travel to have sex with black men! There are places in Jamaica like that too!
I know a lot of Japanese girls and some love black guys! As a matter of fact my roommate who is Jamaican has a live in Japanese girlfriend. My friend who are white and U.S. Marines told me that black guys in Japan don't have to pay for pussy or food because the Japanese girls spoil them!
I the Philipines blacks are treated good!
I Thailand "The land of vertical smiles" black are treated good!
Basically avoid China and Korea!
I even heard Taiwan was o.k. not the best but o.k.
Go to www.goldsea.com in the poll section for asian women and black men! And you will see some examples of blacks in asia.
You just have to remember that most asian are easily influenced by the media! And some take everything as fact. So the best thing to do is to be sensitive to their concerns and try to smile and be helpful. Explain all question clearly and even when you're pissed don't get emotional!
Here is a story you may like! A buddy of mine was in the USAF and he was sent to Greenland! It was so cold there and the base he was at there were no females 64 men!
So all of the white men would go to a city called "Too Lee" but they would tell the black men they hate you in "TOO LEE" don't go! So he being a brother went anyway!
When he arrive he saw brothers with 5 girls a piece driving the local (girls) cars staying in their home and kicken it at the bars with them!
Iceland, Poland, Romania and Hungry are the same way!
Black music (Rap,Hip Hop) has helped and damaged our imagine aboard in many ways, exploit the positive! Just remember we control youth culture with our styles!
Whether you're a brother or not, a good rule of thumb I've found when traveling (as an American) is to refer to your city or state of origin, as opposed to saying "I'm an American".
When you say you're American, you instantly embody the ugly, Yankee, capitalist American imperialist. When you say you're from California or Detroit, you get a more personal conection and will hear "Oh, Disneyland!" or "Ahh, Motown. I really like the Camaro!".
Remember, you only have one chance to make a first impression.
Good luck and happy humping.
MC Ess Var
Example story: When I was in France a few weeks ago, I was drinking in a bar and a few people from an office were drinking adjacent me and upon hearing my American accented English, started making rude comments about Dubbya in French with some extra nasty phrases in English, clearly for my benefit. Rather than getting upset or defensive, I joined in the Dubbya bashing in French and wound up going home with one of the girls and fucking her silly.
CBGBConnisur
10-21-02, 23:41
In my own opinion whenever I visit Europe I make damn sure people know I am American. The next time I go I will even wrap myself in Old Glory. From my own experience in France, younger French people are very pro-America, even the large Islamic population are very warm to Americans. I knew a Turkish woman who has an American flag T-shirt that she always likes to wear.
mcessvar, You are right, when I went to Brazil and I use my California ID that open a lot of doors for me!
Brazilians and people from other countries love Americans not just because of the money but because we are known as party animals that brought hip hop, techno, reggae, pop music and other great music into their country. The fact that I am Asian makes Brazilians mistaken me as Japanese which they worship because most of their technology such as stereo systems and video games come from Japan. I am Chinese though but I play along with this mistaken indentity just to get into their pants. I also say that I can't speak Japanese because I was born and raised American. This combination makes it a lot easier for me to meet non-pros in Brazil. :)
I was expecting to be representing NYC in Amsterdam next month. But someone dropped a hint about Estonia... Brazil is a story of it's own. That will be my Mecca for next year.
Originally posted by darkseid
Brazilians mistaken me as Japanese which they worship because most of their technology such as stereo systems and video games come from Japan. I am Chinese though but I play along with this mistaken indentity just to get into their pants.
I have a new hero.
That's the way Brazilians are! Everyone in Brazil who is dark skinned is assumed to be from the Northeast of Brazil and everyone that is pure white is assumed to be from the south of Brazil where the Germans, Poles and Italians live!
As for getting in their pants:
Brazilian women want a good time they are more comfortable with their sexuality.
They know that they are not men and most like it that way. American women BLACK, WHITE, ASIAN and a few LATINAS want it both ways! The wants the privileges of women and of men!
IF YOU DON'T MAKE A MOVE ON A BRAZILIAN WOMAN ON THE FIRST DATE SHE WILL THINK YOU ARE "VIADO" "GAY".
mcessvar - excellent point....!! i have found the same but never really gave it much thought. it just seemed to work better that way.
but i must say, i can't feel as good as some other posters here in the way americans are received as of late. i seem to see and experience only negative emotion toward the u.s. at the moment. i mean i get dam scared sometimes and pretty saddened by what it has now come to.
o.k. i don't usually post in this forum and so i am generally speaking about a different corner of the world that i travel in. i'm just killing some time and was passing through this forum. glad to know some of you guys out there are still finding the "proud to be american" experience.....
later,
-agl
On my first trip to Brazil when I first met my first Brazilian girlfriend (I didn't have money to pay for prostitutes at that time because I was in college), I was accused of being "viado" because I was used to waiting a long time for sex from American relationships. In America you have to work hard for sex. But my Brazilian girlfriend questioned why I did not make the first move and asked if I was "viado" (she gestured with flapping hands meaning gay). I said, "No I am NOT "viado". She then ripped off my clothes started kissing me then unzipped me and gave me a blowjob. Then she pushed me on the bed and sat on me and started fucking me (without condom). She then pulled me out and sucked it more until I released in her mouth and she swallowed it. I experienced culture shock because I didn't expect this to happen. I loved this experience and that's when I decided that Brazilian women are better and more passionate than American women.
darkseid-
You know, until recently, I too thought that you had to date American girls for time before you could fuck them. Turns out I was just picking the wrong girls. I will agree that I have a lot more one night stands in other countries. I haven't been to Brazil, but it sounds very similar to what I've experienced in European vacation spots.
On the other hand, I've found that I'm able to get pretty hot and heavy on the first date with most of the American girls I've dated over the last 5 years. I sleep with about half of them on the second date, a few more than you'd think on the first date and if there's no sex by date 3, there's no date 4. Almost all of these ladies have been met on the internet (American Singles, Match, etc.) in the regular boy-girl personals. I'm not looking for an LTR right now, so there's no pressure to find Ms. Right.
With US girls, no means no, but if you know how to play the role, she'll never think to say it. Be a gentleman, but let the "accidental touch" linger. If you're interesting and attractive enough to hold their interest, you will get laid as long as you've been sure not to date a Christian, a feminista or someone in rehab (doesn't matter what for).
Actually, the most fuckable American girls are likely to be one or more of the following: Democrat, tatooed, overweight, college educated, over 30, bookish, urban or old suburban, into music other than Top 40 pop, funny. Bottom line, find girls that are somehow out of the mainstream, either by choice or default. They are more interested in connecting, have less options to connect and you have something to hook them with.
Everybody talks about how much cheaper it is to get casual sex from professionals, but I've found that if I discount any emotional cost (potential rejection, etc.), if you're not time constrained, dating sex, even in the USA, is not too expensive. My typical MO is coffee or cocktails (you gotta drink), dinner (you gotta eat) and a stroll in an interesting area ($0). Really your only added costs are a dinner and some drinks for an extra person. Total cost: >$50. Even if you don't get laid on the first date, it's cheaper to grope than a strip to the strip club and if there's a second date ($100) it's cheaper than most AMPs and all US escorts.
Anyway, I split my time between date sex and pay sex and find I get benefit from both.
Happy humping out there!
MC Ess Var
Chilean women for LTR:
Many girls lost their virginity about 15 years old, many others still virgin to marriage.
An average chilean woman will wait over 2 /3 months of commitment before the first fucking, even when she had sex before, doesn't matter how
wet their panties are.
Now, women who travelled, those who are fascinating with foreign costumes, probabbly let you fuck the first night.
There are also, very horny girls arround, 'cause sexual restrictive society, some girls are extremely horny and others extremely cold.
If she trust you will not tell anybody (main concern), she'll feel more confident. You gotta make she feel confident about sex, 'cause teachers, priests, government, and TV has told her whole life sex
is only to make children, not to enjoy. The best seasson to get the girls horny is summer on any beach, they have a little more freedom there and
they take advantage of summer and less parents supervission.
It's not common find a woman under 35 years old single and living alone. Most part of single girls living alone are from the rich part of the city.
Married chilean women are quiet with their husbands, if you get enganged to a chilean woman remember you are the king she's the serveant, this also applyed for STR.
Chilean women are mostly looking for marriage a rich guy and go shopping.
Doesn't matter what they say, they will catch you, very often they will use the old trick of being pregnant. But remember that say abort it's not same that in other countries.
Any of you guys had an experience with German girls. I just met this chick from Berlin and she's very tough to read. I'm pretty sure she likes me but doesn't show it too much emotion. IAre they usaully conservative but wild behind closed doors?
originally posted by mcessvar
darkseid-
you know, until recently, i too thought that you had to date american girls for time before you could fuck them. turns out i was just picking the wrong girls. i will agree that i have a lot more one night stands in other countries. i haven't been to brazil, but it sounds very similar to what i've experienced in european vacation spots.
on the other hand, i've found that i'm able to get pretty hot and heavy on the first date with most of the american girls i've dated over the last 5 years. i sleep with about half of them on the second date, a few more than you'd think on the first date and if there's no sex by date 3, there's no date 4. almost all of these ladies have been met on the internet (american singles, match, etc.) in the regular boy-girl personals. i'm not looking for an ltr right now, so there's no pressure to find ms. right.
happy humping out there!
mc ess var
the american women i meet in bars, clubs, gyms, or classes expect you to get to know them on the first date and that first date in only to get to know them in most cases. they all refuse to have sex with you because of that initial barrier especially in a big city like new york where there are over 3000 [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) reported per year.
the personals seem to be the most popular way people meet in this big city because it is convenient and you don't have to spend countless nights looking for someone with your same interests only to end up finding women that don't share your interests. (i had a lot of those including unadventurous book readers that are afraid of heights, the religious prude, the money grubber, and anything else bad you can think of... and still no sex from them). the personals cut out the first date and you get to see what kind of person they are in advanced. because the first date which is a barrier is removed, they feel more comfortable having sex with you in most cases. the least amount of dates i had to go through to get sex is the second date and that is a girl i met on the personals because we cut out the smalltalk and we just talk about the hobbies we are into. i was afraid to ask her to have sex on that first date because i thought she would be like any other american woman but maybe i could have scored that night if it wasn't for my stereotyping of aw. the second date we got passionate and had it.
Originally posted by Three x
I am black and I went to Brazil to see some friends the women were really receptive! Especially the mulatas (some have blue eyes)! Just go to any fast food restaurant and speak english little and they will start to flirt!
I also heard Chile is a good place to go for brothers!
Also I dated a Columbian girl in the U.S. She told me that there is a island where White European and White American women travel to have sex with black men! There are places in Jamaica like that too!
I know a lot of Japanese girls and some love black guys! As a matter of fact my roommate who is Jamaican has a live in Japanese girlfriend. My friend who are white and U.S. Marines told me that black guys in Japan don't have to pay for pussy or food because the Japanese girls spoil them!
I the Philipines blacks are treated good!
I Thailand "The land of vertical smiles" black are treated good!
Basically avoid China and Korea!
I even heard Taiwan was o.k. not the best but o.k.
Go to www.goldsea.com in the poll section for asian women and black men! And you will see some examples of blacks in asia.
You just have to remember that most asian are easily influenced by the media! And some take everything as fact. So the best thing to do is to be sensitive to their concerns and try to smile and be helpful. Explain all question clearly and even when you're pissed don't get emotional!
Here is a story you may like! A buddy of mine was in the USAF and he was sent to Greenland! It was so cold there and the base he was at there were no females 64 men!
So all of the white men would go to a city called "Too Lee" but they would tell the black men they hate you in "TOO LEE" don't go! So he being a brother went anyway!
When he arrive he saw brothers with 5 girls a piece driving the local (girls) cars staying in their home and kicken it at the bars with them!
Iceland, Poland, Romania and Hungry are the same way!
Black music (Rap,Hip Hop) has helped and damaged our imagine aboard in many ways, exploit the positive! Just remember we control youth culture with our styles!
Hey Bro,
My brother went to Japan In 95. He mentioned that when he was there(2 weeks) they treated him like a king!! Had sex with like 5-7 women They BADLY want the BLACK EXPERIENCE He's going Back again In June. You said it best "Exploit the Positive" Oh..... and he's a rap artist
Oh by the way I'm VERY unviersal. It's all pink inside to me!:)
I've noticed there's alot of talk about Brazil here and I just wanted to add my thoughts on the subject.
I'm 20 years old and I come from Sweden. Last year I travelled around South America. I started out in Venezuela but left after a few days since I found the women rather arrogant (in fact they weren't but I was still under the massive Internet propaganda about desperate Latin women). I then went to Peru, Lima and had the best experience ever in my life. The women were crazy about me it seemed like I could have how many girlfriends I wanted. If I would walk into a store the female attendants would all flirt with me and anyone I asked out on a date said yes (even if she was 10 years older than me). I was basically in paradise. Still I thought Brazil would be better, especially in attitudes towards sex. Well boys I made the mistake of my life going to Brazil. Rio de Janeiro was hell. Boring, dull and arrogant women. They would completely ignore and I didn't see more than a handfull of women over 15 years old in Copacobana where I had my appartment. Most of the girls were white and cared less about a gringo. As if matters couldn't be worse even the prostitutes ignored me. And after a few visits to "Help Disco" I realized I wasn't the only gringo they ignored. I found it incredible how the pros in Europe were far more anxious and service minded than in Brazil. Thinking that it was mainly Rio that was boring I decided to go North to Salvador, Bahia. The only thing which surprised me positively about Salvador was that there were real women around and they looked better than in Rio but still they didn't give me much more attention. At first I thought it might have something to do with me being young but I met older gringos as well (30 and 40 y.o) who faced the same dilemma. Incredibly enough however I found a girlfriend and fell in love with her so I stayed in Salvador for five months. During this time I learned more about how to play the game in Brazil. The number one rule is, the Brazilian women are arrogant and lazy; you will have to approach them and flirt with them if you want to get anywhere. They all think they're bloody supermodels because of how much and ruthlessly the local men flirt with them. The routine is basically to drag them in their clothes to get their attention.
After having enjoyed the highlane and the ease of getting ladies in Peru, I was shocked with the appaling situation in Brazil. I have no idea how people here can speak so warmly of the Brazilian women.
Lithium,
I spoke highly of Brazil because I had a great experience there. In fact being Asian has a major advantage in Brazil over being white because Asian men are a rarity there. I used prostitutes the first 2 nights but hooked up the third night because the Braizlian girl I hooked up with in NUTH club was curious about me. However, some Caucasian guys also had good experiences here as well. Everybody gets different experiences or opinions of a place. Perhaps people enjoy New York City but I HATE it and desperately want to leave. In NYC I am considered a short geek. NYC women prefer tall men (even the dwarves want a man above 5'7"). I am only 5'4" tall. In Brazil, I am a new flavor because there are not too many Asian men that live in Brazil only a few Japanese people that migrated there from America during WWII. They overlook my lack of height. Also what helps if you are not Asian or Brazilian is the fact you try to adopt their culture instead of ignore it. I take capoeira- a Brazilian dance martial art and I speak portugese. If they see that you love their culture, they'll love you.
Darkseid,
You're right about Asians. My girlfriend (who was exceptionally beautiful) use to date a Korean-Brazilian. The same guy was now involved with other model looking women and seemed really popular. Brazil also seems to be a good country for black guys. As for other caucasians, I find it hard to believe how anyone could have had such a great experience with normal women (prostitutes don't count as one could have fun for $ 100 anywhere in the world) unless they look like Brad Pitt or whatever. I met about 4-5 gringos in my trip as well and none of them seemed to be very popular among the ladies. Things just seemed so much better in Peru so I'm just wondering why the priorities look like they do. I do give the Brazilian women credit for being beautiful, and as a buttman I've never felt quite as at home.
That's true Rasta. I noticed how female store merchants would flirt more with black guys than they would with latinos. My girlfriend also told me that the girls prefer black men over white. Still that was all in the lower classes of society, I doubt the latin women in the higher classes are as open about dating black men since the country is so extremely segregated otherwise. And the thing is, the rich women don't have to date foregin guys to get out of the country. They could go abroad with their own funds and probably live a better life in material terms than they could in the West. So all in all Brazil is not really good for a white tourist. It migth be different if you actually live there permantly though. After I had been in Salvador for about 4 ½ months I had finetuned my game so that I could almost match the same numbers as I had my first week in Peru.
The women in the upper classes in Brazil tend to go for Portugese speaking whites or Asian guys since they are stereotyped to also be in the same class. Asian guys are known to bring technology into their country and are jknown to be businessmen. Caucasians who speak Portugese are also known to be upper class businessmen and are very respected. Caucasians that don't speak Portugese are known as middle class tourists who just go to Brazil for nothing more than pleasure at a lower cost country. That is why they don't go for English speaking Caucasians that much. The girl I met at NUTH was an upper class woman and I know she doesn't have the alterior motive of money or leaving the country.
The poor Brazilians are more open to dating blacks or latinos. They also go for Asians and whites as well as long as you can speak Portugese. Most of the lower class girls don't speak a word of English and try to communicate with you with sign language if you don't speak Portugese. Fortunately for myself, I can speak with the lower class. :-)
Jordan, I'll give you my opinions as a Blackman who lived in Japan for several years and encountered all types of women...
Indian/India girls: I was real curious because of the similarities and differences they have with a brother man, but trying to FIND them, find them MINUS India brother c*** blockers, and then “Break down” Indian sisters is annoying. From my long observations, Many India ladies in Japan go for the White brothers & definitely have color issues… But, I did get lucky, so when you see an opening for a SLAM DUNK then… “Just do it”. I think the main problem is there limited numbers in Japan and few seem to go anywhere, except the occasional college student. Note: Interestingly, I have known many Russian women that would hang out with Indian & Pakistani guys
Australian ladies: Bro… Just about every Australian woman I met in Japan has been down with Black American brothers. Even if not you, than the brother “next” to you… It is plain too weird, even for me. Many had great personalities, completely understood the bullshit of Black versus White American issues, and wanted to have FUN with da brothers. Australians are also more American, in a good way, than the Europeans that I met. Weird, but I’ll take the good when it is given to me. I’m thinking about doing some in depth studying about exactly why this is the case.
European women:
Many European women speak English, (but not all) and had a high level of fluency.
Many European women that me & my friends talked to made it a point to tell us that they prefer US to Japanese guys.
Many told us they were in Japan for the money. There good and bad stories were very similar to those of Black Americans. Japanese money & safety good, but Japanese prejudice (even against White skin), childishness, & weird perverts were bad.
Many European women were VERY turned on by guys with muscles, height, or macho. It was either 2 out of 3 and not necessarily all. Guys with muscles in fact were even a bigger hit with European women in Japan than with women in the U.S. Many European women that I met will touch you and be all over you… Very different from the reactions of Japanese women who seem very shy or afraid of guys with muscles or height.
European women don’t usually approach guys, so it up to the guy to approach her. Guys with BOLD & “smooth” approaches were awarded more often and CAVE MAN grabs are dangerous. Oddly cave man & very direct tactics worked MORE with Japanese women and this is probably because of language barriers and Japanese culture.
African men seem to do very well with European women in Japan. I think the Pimp & Agent stuff is because various European women from the poorer countries work in Japan as Hostesses and Dancers. Various African men in Japan have developed connections and are able to help them get VISAs or get jobs at certain Clubs. African guys also OWN some clubs in Japan, so the European women work DIRECTLY for them.
Note: Don’t underestimate those African brothers in Japan. Many speak 3 to 4 languages, try to OWN their own businesses, dress with style & flash GOLD (once they get money), & will use Black American popularity & trends to their advantage.
Europeans who don’t mind talking to da brothers in JAPAN (just my observation): Russians, Ukrainians, Estonia, Latvia, Polish, Hungary, Denmark, Yugoslavian, & Croatian women.
Other European women that I or my friends talked to were more on a “case by case basis” & did not show any trends. I did meet some Romanian women with race issues and gypsy issues. Gypsies are usually darker (some type of India, Muslim, White mix) on average than the people of the countries they are in and there has been a lot of persecution of them. So European countries with high Gypsy population, like Romania, may have severe race/color issues.
Filipina girls in Japan: RUN, RUN AWAY… In Japan, the ones I’ve seen will scam on you for money. “Buy me this, buy my friend this, my cousin needs money…” …and the sex… Many act like sexy super freaks, but when it is time to get down the catholic comes out (even though they ain’t livin that way) and it is straight missionary position and “owww, it hurts.. owww”. ####, is yall freaks or is you just scamming for cash? The “word” is that if they are “FRESH” from the “BOAT” and you are WHITE WHITE than it might be possible to find a “good one”. Good luck sailors… Weird, cause the ones I met in the U.S. were “case by case” decent. There are a FEW that KNOW they are “Black”… Huh? And are with da brothers… Good luck finding them, but I have seen them.
Thai girls: See Filipina… above… Seen a couple of super fine ones…
Chinese girls: See above… Money scam after money scam… True love only for WHITE WHITE… All into their own culture like CHINA is the CENTER OF THE D*MN UNIVERSE. China this… China that… China will rule… Give me your money… I have been around lots of Chinese since High School. Only exceptions were those who were bi-racial (usually White & Chinese) and somehow were interested in Black guys. Odd ain’t it... Maybe I’m just really unlucky with this group.
Mongolian: Don’t know…
African: Seen a lot of ones that had possibilities, but were totally unrefined. I seen some that were refined (hair done, nice nails, got the walk, got some money, got da clothes) and they will blow your mind. Met one that was a dancer and made any man’s jaw drop. This will be controversial, but… More feminine than American women… Way MORE African men than women in Japan, so can be hard to fine & then there is the “refinement” issue.
Brazilian: Among the prettiest women I HAVE EVER MET OR SEEN WERE Brazilian. VERY FUN loving, feminine but very no bullsh*t “straight forward”… All kinds of flavors, Black & White, White & Asian, or just everything… Can be a bit hard to find in Japan or to recognize because different color mixes… Some have severe issues about race (White versus Black), while others (Light or Dark) don’t give a #### about color & with da brothers… Hard to figure which is which… Don’t chase brothers, seem to be into Brazilian culture, and money focused in Japan. American Brothers will have to chase them down & LEARN their HANG OUT SPOTS. They WILL often Judge (my opinion) you by clothes, appearance (VERY QUICKLY), college, AND how MUCH YOU MAKE. Seem to Like MACHO acting guys that have their TOTAL act together.
Korean: Mixed bag as far as the brothers concerned, but some are very much worth the trouble. I was in Korea during the World Cup this summer… Taller, clearer skin, straighter teeth on average than their Japanese sisters. Don’t go insane Bleaching their hair yellow or go NUTS following White or Black countries and trends. Often conservative… Like in Japan there is a considerable group that is VERY INTO Black American culture, music, & Black men. Have many positive virtues or Asian female virtues such as TEAM WORK, femininity, loyalty, “quite” determination, etc… Can be harder to “crack” than Japanese or European women, but just as easy IF you know the culture… Can be more argumentative and jealous than Japanese, but more affectionate… Note: Oddly, I met some RUSSIANS in Korea that were very into Black guys too.
ZaiNichi Korean: Almost married one in Japan. More likely to understand Black Americans than average Japanese. Many positive virtues or Asian female virtues such as TEAM WORK, femininity, loyalty, “quite” determination, etc… Harder to FIND, can be harder to “crack”, can be harder to break up with than Japanese… In a relationship, seems more marriage orientated and displays greater loyalty to her “man” than Japanese sisters. Note: Don’t expect Koreans that grew up in Japan to be like those from Korea. There are some strong Korean cultural influences, but it can be hard to see them. Use Korean language ability and look out for lots of Korean products in the house to be your guide on this.
Ooopsss... Almost forgot South Americans:
Very much into their own Latin culture, "case by case" situation for da brothers, lots of White versus Black issues, money focused... Note, I personally think messing with Columbians in Japan is dangerous and I almost got “ganged up on” a few times... Was in some intense situations with Columbian guys… Flip side… I met some brothers with women from El Salvador (maybe something special for da Brothers) who were real happy and their ladies looked like “full body” Asian & Indian mixes, but were “full blooded” Spanish… One of the few times I got jealous over another brother’s girl… Brothers will most likely have to GO TO Salsa/Latino hang outs & Clubs. Some Spanish very, very helpful but not necessarily a must… Seem to like masculine, well dressed, “well styled” hair (fades, waves, etc…), “smooth” actin brothers… Seen a number of dudes that I thought were Black Americans, but turned out to be really Spanish… Knowing how to DANCE is a mega plus… I “lucked up” because I would go with Dominican & Puerto Rican pals… so maybe that is important too
Guys,
something about latinas (yes that includes also Brasil girls!) in general.
I traveled in peru,DR (and eastern Europe) and go now on a trip to Brasil (Fortaleza and manaus) for three weeks in February 2003.
I can only say that I also found out that many girls on the internet belong to upperclass family and are indeed snobs or arrogant:-(
So my advise would be: learn the lingo and go out there!!!!
In SA the language (spanish or Portugese) is indeed an issue. Even in Lima in a big hotel nobody spoke any decent english!!
The key to 'seduce" the girls is indeed learn their language. Now spanish wasn't so difficult for me. But Portugese is another ballgame:-( It looks like spanish but the proninciation is VERY different.
Also I can confirm that many professional latinas are looking for prof. men. They don't care if you make good money with a blue clour job....they also want (need?) Status!! And if they have to eat SHIT with a DESKJOB they will rather eat SHIT then to find a guy that is working in shifts in a factory!!!!;-)
And that is a very negative side of the latin personality imho.
So during my trips to come I will focus on lower class or lower middle class girls regarding my quest for a wife. Nurses,schoolteachers or factory girls.
They,most likely,are best to blend in in my home country the Netherlands. here nobody has a wife with 3 kids that stays all day home:-( It's just not possible.
Here we don't have money to hire maids and gardeners all day....;-) It would set back you a small fortune:-(
I personaly say for pussie action South-America kicks ass:-)
Here you can find all varieties in skin colours...from white....to dark black and everything in between:-) And that's were Brasil comes in!!! personaly I prefer the darker latinas or a mullatta:-)
But that doesn't mean I would kick off a 8-ish white girl of my bed-edge...LOL
Exceptions are Chili and Argentina as there are mostly white population.
Johan.
Rubber Nursey
12-16-02, 15:55
KNICKFAN,
"Australian ladies: Bro… Just about every Australian woman I met in Japan has been down with Black American brothers....I’m thinking about doing some in depth studying about exactly why this is the case."
If you need some help with your "research"...call ME!! LOL I luuurve Black American men, and so does practically every other Australian woman I know. Guys...Knickfan is telling you the truth. If you ever visit Australia on one of your "mongering tours", I will pretty much guarantee you'll have hookers falling at your feet. You won't get any of that stuck-up, racist crap from an Aussie girl. Some of the best sex I've ever had was with Black American sailors. There's just something about the way you move...... *sigh*
Well...you heard the man! Get yourselves Down Under!! :)
Johan,
If you've allready been to Peru you might be up for a negative experience when you got to Brazil. Namely the Brazilian low class girls don't discriminate much in skin colour and many of them prefer black over white. The middle class Brazilian girls also seem very snobbish and arrogant. Unlike in Peru they will not look at you in the streets or flirt with you in the shops. You might just feel completely ignored.
In Peru I met women from both low, upper and middle class (in a period of one week!) and they all seemed very nice and interested in getting to know me.
Where in Eastern Europe did you go? I spent most of this summer going around Ukraine, but I also visited Romania and Moldova. My strategy use to be to go for the poorest and most desperate women, but I soon discovered it was more rewarding going for women who are more on your level. Women who have some knowledge of the world and speak English. Not only are these girls more sophisticated and able to carry a conversation with you, they're also less arrogant and actually more approachable than the lower classes.
Hi RN,
Are Aussie women friendly to the short Asian guy? I am planning to take a trip down there one of these days but I suppose they may be less shallow than American women who are mean to the likes of me.
Rubber Nursey
12-17-02, 14:24
Darkseid,
Ok, so maybe I'm just a tiny, little bit biased...but I think Aussie girls are friendly to EVERYONE! ;)
Seriously though, our closest "neighbours" are Asian countries, and as such, there is a very large Asian population in Australia. That can work both for you and against you though...
On the positive side, racism against Asian men is relatively uncommon, so you'll have just as much chance of picking up chicks as anyone else has. On the negative side though...it means you don't have an "edge". Take Negro men for example (be they from America, England or Africa). There is not a very large Negro population in Australia, so Afro-American men really stand out. (There's also the fact that we are continually "teased" by images of gorgeous Black men in American music videos and movies!!) There is something "exotic" and exciting about a Black man, because there are not many around...Asian men don't have that luxury unfortunately.
That said, Australia is the land of the "fair go". We like to give people the benefit of the doubt, and we believe in giving people a fair chance to prove themselves. Not only that, but we are a friendly bunch. :) We like to drink and talk and really get to know people. Both of those things mean that you will get more of a chance to show a girl who your really are inside when you meet her, rather than having her judge you on looks alone.
One warning...don't go to Australia with a "women don't like short men" attitude. Australian women are strong and proud, and they won't tolerate a man who has a chip on his shoulder. You need to be able to laugh at yourself in this country. Aussies are famous for the saying, "No Worries", and most of us live our lives by that slogan. Be prepared to smile, laugh, (DRINK!!), and talk to strangers...and I think you'll love the place.
Originally posted by darkseid
Hi RN,
Are Aussie women friendly to the short Asian guy? I am planning to take a trip down there one of these days but I suppose they may be less shallow than American women who are mean to the likes of me.
short Asian guy? heh???
Have you seen that Asian guy........Singapore President
you think he is short........
Thanks RN. I can have fun in Australia as long as they don't zero in on my lack of height. In fact, I don't think about it as long as they don't bring it up like they do here in America. I guess that's why I travel a lot and have much better times abroad than in America. In America, they reject you if you have even one flaw and they even mention why they turn you down. This is why I always complain about my height is because American women always bring it up. I would otherwise have a good time if my flaws aren't brought to the spotlight.
I love Brazil for the same reason Blacks love Australia. In Brazil, Asian men have an edge over other guys because we are rare in Brazil. I had no problem getting free sex in Brazil. We are treated like gods or heroes because they consider us the bringer of technology and martial arts. Brazilian Jujitsu originated from the Japanese who fled America during WWII with the threat of being put into concentration camps.
I would like to go there some time. When is it the best time to go? Is there a Carnival type holiday I should check out like Holland's Queen's Day or Brazilian Carnival?
AsiaTraveler2
12-18-02, 15:50
Darkseid;
Have you been to Buenos Aires? If you have, what was it like. I'm Asian American as well, so I'm interested in your opinion.
Thanks!
I've never been to Buenos Aires or any part of Argentina but I had an Asian ex-girlfriend that hooked up the first week she went down there. I don't really know how the girls in Argentina treat the Asian guys though but they probably love Asian men as well. I also don't speak Spanish, only Portugese so I didn;t venture to the Spanish parts of South America yet. I had a hard time communicating with the Dominican chicks even though they were easy to pick up. I am trying to learn Spanish so once I get an adequate knowledge of the language, I'll go to these parts.
Rubber Nursey
12-18-02, 18:22
Darkseid,
Australia doesn't really have any "festivals" as such, aside from the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras (I don't know if that's your thing, but it's a huge event in Sydney). I would say that Australia Day would be the biggest nationwide party (January 26th), probably followed by the Melbourne Cup (1st Tuesday in November). Otherwise each State is different, so I can't really suggest anything in particular.
Picking your best time for you to go, will probably come down to the weather. It gets very, very hot in many parts of Australia in summer. I would say the best time to come would be September - November (spring), or April (autumn/fall).
Every day's a fuckin' holiday in that country as far as I was ever able to tell.
AsiaTraveler2
12-19-02, 09:59
darkseid;
Thanks for the reply. I guess I will have to work on my Spanish. I love the look of the girls, so I hope to go before the end of 2003. Thanks again!
Thanks RN. I will come next November. I don't want to come down to the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras besides the fact that I am not gay but I assume it will be difficult to hook up (with a girl that is) during that time.
Darkseid...please email me. I have a question to ask you. Thanks! Thnsk bo for emailing me...took of my address so I don't get spam....
Hey I would like to study Chinese in China do you have any advice! By the way I am Black!
threex@theinbox.org
Originally posted by RN
KNICKFAN,
"Australian ladies: Bro… Just about every Australian woman I met in Japan has been down with Black American brothers....I’m thinking about doing some in depth studying about exactly why this is the case."
If you need some help with your "research"...call ME!! LOL I luuurve Black American men, and so does practically every other Australian woman I know. Guys...Knickfan is telling you the truth. If you ever visit Australia on one of your "mongering tours", I will pretty much guarantee you'll have hookers falling at your feet. You won't get any of that stuck-up, racist crap from an Aussie girl. Some of the best sex I've ever had was with Black American sailors. There's just something about the way you move...... *sigh*
Well...you heard the man! Get yourselves Down Under!! :)
Ah yes!!...now that's what I'm talking about!!...RN I still got my sight's on you ;)
Been lots of messages about where black guys will do best. So where will tall, blond, blue eyed scandinavians do well?
SE asia? africa? South America? When I was living in Thailand I read one day in Bangkok post about the ultimate looks which they meant were the¨typical nordic pale and blond look. Don't know if the rest of the thais shared that opinion or not, but that look is definetely more popular there than in scandinavia where a blond guy will do very poorly.
Wanderer1000
08-06-03, 17:42
Ndara,
A lot of areas in South and Central America will go for your look. I just came back from a week trip in Rio yesterday. I´m tall with blue eyes and darker hair (also work out at the gym), and I found many of the women I was with very interested in my blue eyes (more expressive in their interest than other areas of South and Central America I have travelled). Two amigas in one of the termas I went to pulled my head back to the light and pushed up my eyelids like I was a speciman in a lab so they could get a better look. I don´t know about the rest of Brazil, but I found the Rio girls to really be into blue eyes. Hope this helps.
Wanderer1000
08-09-03, 16:32
Ndara,
You might want to check some of the posts in the Paraguay section about a month or so back. It sounds like blue eyes and the N. European look are a big hit with the chicas in the capital city.
Jak!
Thanks for that info.! I really want to go to SA and paraguay do sound interesting,
CBGBConnisur
02-21-04, 16:41
A person will do well where their looks are exotic. A nordic man or woman will do really well in a place where those looks are exotic like in Brazil or elsewhere in South America. When I was in northern Europe, I noticed the locals liked darker looking men and women, this is probably because there are so few of them and that they stand out. In Amsterdam I noticed a lot of Dutch women had Moroccan and Turkish boyfriends. I saw a similar pattern in Paris and in Germany. In fact, interracial couples are very common in most large European cities. I've lived in New York, and despite New York's cultural diversity the attitude there towards mixed dating is very hostile compared to places like Amsterdam or London.
Wanderer1000
02-21-04, 21:47
CBGB -
You are right in that the general concept is really about being exotic in a given location. I'd be interested to know more about where in the world an exotic look doesn't attract.
I forgot about these posts six months back. It's interesting that they were about Brazil. The main girl that seemed interested in my blue eyes was from Manaus - an interior city of Brazil. I was very recently reading the travel reports of a guy on another site who spent time in Manaus. He was talking at length about his blue eyes being such a big hit in this city. He actually got the colored blue contacts to make his eyes more extreme. He was laughing about how he almost felt like a rock star at times. He mentioned with some mixed emotions how he wished he had stuck around longer - but he wasn't particularly interested in a LTR or STR.
So, if you have blue eyes and like mulatto Brazilian babes, I think Manaus is worth some time.
CBGBConnisur
02-28-04, 00:21
For me, I have a look that is very Southern European and it works well when I visited Nordic countries, as the women find my looks unique. However when I go to a Southern European country like Spain or Italy, I don't stand out anymore and the women don't really care as much. A nordic male would do well in Brazil and other parts of South America, the Mediterranean, and Asia. A mediteranean looking guy will do well in Northern Europe, Canada, Australia, and Argentina.
James D 2004
02-28-04, 04:05
Actually straight black hair is the hottest in Nordic countries. Yes, you guess right, Asians are doing quite well there. Sadly, men and women are not equal. Asian women are doing very well, but men isn't that bad. Nordic girls hate their men anyway.
On the other hand, blond blue women is doing well anywhere. They are just rare outside Nordic countries. Even in, say, Britain if a girl have that they state on their adv. Blond blue men is doing rather poorly. Even in Asia they may be OK for a STR for the curiosity factor. In developed cities I doubt if any Asian women will go for that in a LTR. But then many boys and girls dye their hair with blond strips. But I don't think that represents the popularity of naturally blond men. Unless you are Beckham.
Eh what a ridiculous post from tall and handsome. "nordic women hate their men anyway"??? completely untrue. sure they may find men with darker complexion in general good looking, but many many nordic girls like men with fair complexions as well. "nordic men will do poorly in asia as well". hmm how do you know? I lived in thailand for several times and more than a few times I read articles in bangkok post and the nation about the ultimate looks which they found to be the pale, blond and blue eyed swedish looks, whether it is a girl or a boy. And I never heard that the thai ladies found blond men less attractive. as a matter of fact few found the colour of the hair especially important. Looks are certainly much more than just the colour of the hair...
James D 2004
04-10-04, 01:12
Ndara, if you read my posts before you will know that I'm usually highly opinionated. In this case one would need statistics to be serious and scientific. I haven't and my opinions are implied to be subjective.
My opinions are far from ridiculous. Did I say Nordic women hate the look of their men? No. It's a stereotype that Nordic men are rather backward in treating their women, drank a lot and prefer rough sex rather than passionate. American and British men for example generally treat their women better, but complain about it. Some western women thinks that women are treated better by Asian men. True or not any western women, including Nordic ones, with an Asian boyfriend, will reinforce that by telling others she is treated very well.
I said blond blue men is doing rather poorly, period. That means across the board. Obviously this is a highly charged statement for the fun of it. Women may fantasize about it but they don't necessarily act out their fantasies on a LTR. It's the same thing that many man don't date women who looked 18, or dumb blonds. (But also many men do, more than women.)
For Asia I stated that I refer to the developed cities, without a better word for them. That would be the once called Asian tigers. I'm not aware that Bangkok is one of them if you look at their GDP.
Made no mistake, the Nordic look is the ultimate look all over. Just look at TV ads on cosmetics. But even in North America some people are subtle about it (Americans) while some are obvious about it (Mexicans). In America many won't admit to it due to politically correctness, and the papers won't write about it. For one blond blue star who made it big in Hollywood, there are much more with other colors. You can say the same about women but then you can look at porn stars.
Doing poorly is rather different from being unattractive. Countless women dye their hair blond, and now even wear colored contact lens. Blond women somehow have some advantages, and that's not poorly. I'm sure men don't do that. Good looking and successful men get the girl. Color have little to do with that. That's poorly. I never implied that certain colors are inferior in appearance.
I agree somewhat about what you say about nordic men. What they are like sexually I really don't know.
I don't agree with you about your statement that blonde men are not attractive for a girl for a LTR. I can't believe that the colour of the hair should have such impact. Generally the only physical appareance that seem to be important for women worldwide is the height. Most women seem to prefer tall guys, I don't think I have ever heard a women say that she prefers short men, although for sure they exist as well.
As you say for every blond person that becomes a star there are countless non-blondes, but then there are so many more non-blondes. When I think of girls I can't say that I prefer only Blondes, brunettes or redheads or for that sake caucasians, asians or blacks. I like the individual and she can be either of the above mentioned. For a long term Relationship for sure looks are certainly not the most important, although of course not completely unimportant.
Now I am a typical nordic looking guy, tall, blonde and blue eyed and admittedly not what most nordic women would describe as the ultimate looking guy, but then again where my looks have been more rare, for example in east Asia and sub saharan africa my looks have many times been said to be perfect, which I guess is not because my blonde hair but more just because you are white in a non-caucasian country. I don't think they they look at us different whether we are blondes or brunettes. As a matter of fact when I and my best friend who is mediterranean looking was travelling in China 8 years ago we were often asked whether we were twins? So that a big city asian women would think twice before marrying a blonde just because he is blonde I seriously doubt. But then it is just my personal experiences and thoughts.
Anyway thanks for a quick well written reply.
Cash Works
04-10-04, 13:44
i think this whole discussion goes back to the saying "opposites attract". i may be wrong on this, but i think there is a lot of truth in that statement. i'm pretty sure that it goes back to some primordial instinct to expand the gene pool.
if we look at history, until about 100 years ago, most people would be born, grow up, have children, and die in a relatively small geographic area, many times never venturing more than 50 miles from the place they were born. one result of this lack of travel is lack of diversity & eventually, everyone winds up looking pretty much the same. the problem that also arises from this lack of travel/lack of diversity is that eventually (over generations), everybody in the village/town is related to everyone else and eventually bad characteristics start showing up in the children that are born - i'm sure we've all heard jokes about babies born as a result of [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128).
i think that our subconsious mind is somehow aware of this problem, so when we see somebody who is dissimilar to us in appearance, we tend to be attracted to their "exotic" looks. the result of this attractions, is new genetic material being introduced to the gene pool.
i'm sure that somebody is saying "i'm not planning on having a kid, i just wanna get laid!" that's fine, but why do we have a sex drive? it's to ensure the species propagates. in other words, the reason we have a sex drive is to ensure that babies get made.
cbgb mentions back in february, that interracial dating in the usa is far less prevalent than in europe. this may be true, but i can definitely say that's changing, even in the southern usa. i would have to say that american culture is still steeped in its puritanical roots (i personally think much of the puritanical values we americans hold up as virtue are perversions of nature).
one thing that i have observed over the years of working in south america and africa is that the most vocally bigotted white guy (regardless of his country of origin) in the group will almost always seek out the blackest hooker he can get his hands on and after the deed is done, will (temporarily) be the happiest person in the world - after all, "opposites attract".
cw
James D 2004
04-10-04, 20:19
I have to emphasis that when I say doing poorly, it means the color doesn't have an advantage, or even hindrance. It does not mean more, or less, attractive in appearance.
In Asia it is indeed the contrast that comes into consideration. In poorer Asian countries, as long as your boyfriend is a westerner, you will have a better life, even if he is a pensioner or taking employment benefits. Whether the relationship last or not doesn't matter. Assume it doesn't and hope for the best. You don't have much to lose.
In Asia cities where the price of a flat is often more than that of Manhattan, it's different. For two good looking men, women will probably go for the more successful one rather than the blond one. Women understands that the relationship will probably last if the white man is plain looking rather than a trophy catch. There's a problem if the inter racial relationship doesn't last. Say if you once go out with an 18 year old dumb blond lookalike, it's difficult to date your other highly educated women friends as it's hard for them to take you seriously.
Asian tend to think in terms of genetics. The parents thinking will affect their choice of their children. Obviously tall and good looking are good genes, successful also reflects the brain capacity. Everybody want big, bright and beautiful babies. If the woman actually like your height, and color, they will think what a lot you have to give up - that your baby will be smaller, blond and blue are obviously non-dominant genes. In thinking so they doubt more whether the relationship will last.
Enough for my rubbish. What I really want to say is that I'm trying at all cost to avoid blond hair blue eye tall man with slim built in public places. Last time I sat next to one in the airport waiting. When one of his friend arrive, who is a woman, she admires me from head to toe like I'm his new found gay partner.
TallnHandsome!
Interesting views! never thought about it that way. I doubt that women actually think like that, but then I have never understood women fully.
My observation is that if you are good looking, or decent looking and have the right attitude and a sense of humor, you will do well anywhere.
As far as color, hieght, and other periphials, it's all more about current fads than anything. Some women seem to get onto a type, and that is what they want.
One thing is for sure, if the provider likes you, and even wants you, you will get alot more our of the deal.
Organicgrowth
04-19-04, 09:57
TallnHandsome,
Quote: “When one of his friend arrive, who is a woman, she admires me from head to toe like I'm his new found gay partner.”
Friend, I don’t know you, but your excellent posts tell all of us that you are not a gay partner!
Just print a couple of your reports and keep them with you in your wallet to show any chica who questions your orientation!
Regards, Havanaman
PS. I'm not tall, not handsome, not blue eyed, blond hair and I still do very well... Pay for play and free chicas alike! Its all always in the attitude.
India, Bangladesh, Tibet, and China have the best women for relationships in my opinion.
Smut Villain
05-10-04, 14:40
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"India, Bangladesh, Tibet, and China have the best women for relationships in my opinion."
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Sounds interesting; please do explain! :)
I used to hear these phrases before.
Live in American house.
Eat Italian food.
A French girl friend.
And Japanese wife.
They said that's heaven.
Which country other than the US has the most english speaking people? I'm looking for third-world type countrys.
Believe it or not try United Arab Emirates (Dubai). Check out the Forum section.
Smut Villain
05-13-04, 20:09
Great One,
You might try Australia; if it wasn't for my infatuation with Latinas, that would be my _first_ choice. For right now, it's still in my top 5.
Smut,
Yeah I prefer womon than have darker complextions than me. I would like to find the most english speaking people in areas like Mexico, South America, Gulf of Mexico, Africa, Eastern Europe, Asia. And where there is a low cost of living.
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Haven't you guys been paying attention to the outsourcing debates going on? India has a population greater than 1 billion, and a whole bunch of them speak English.
Smut Villain
05-14-04, 14:40
Hardbarg, Worf1972:
Yeah, I forgot about those places! But are these cultures expariate/tourist-friendly?
Great One:
Concerning Mexico and the rest of Latin America: unless you want to stick with tourist areas and border towns, your preference for English-speaking locales may limit the areas where you'll end up being. I've found that learning at least one commonly used foreign language (in my case it was Spanish) will not only increase your options, but will also allow you to enjoy and find out things to which a lot of visitors aren't privy. I've also found that a lot of locals will treat you differently (better) than the average tourist/expatriate.
CBGBConnisur
05-14-04, 16:43
Modern parts of China have a lot of attractive Western style women. Women in Hong Kong and Maucau are quite attractive.
Australia has its first princess today, Mary Donaldson, and she is quite pretty. A real life Cindarella.
Trip to brazil 843 dollars
hotel plus food 600 dollars
GFE while there with blessing from my Mexican Italian wife who was happy to see me upon my return Priceless.!!!!
James D 2004
05-14-04, 22:13
Hardbarg,
At end of last year, cheap tickets are sold out in the order of India, Bangkok/Asia, Argentina / Brazil.
But India is vast and wealth unevenly distributed. I doubt if the best selection of providers are those educated with good English. For the elites, they are very snobbery about accents. For sure BBC English is OK, don't even know about American accents.
T&H
James D 2004
05-14-04, 22:25
Feast,
Very not update.
Indonesian house - as big as you want. Don't need air cond in all the house, not even roof. Climate not too bad compared to California, but plenty of water.
Chinese food - those who managed to occupy and ruled China all became Chinese.
French girlfriend - not bad for freebie. Blowjob is as important as in USA but they start earlier.
Korean mistress - even the Japanese love them so much as to occupy Korea and bring some home the first thing.
Sorry no wife, I reside in California.
T&H
T&H:
The question was "Which country other than the US has the most english speaking people?"
The answer is India. In fact, my guess would be that there are more English speakers in India than on the rest of the planet combined.
As for other considerations, the variations are as wide as 1 billion+ people implies.
The actual answer to the question "Which country other than the US has the most english speaking people?" is, of course, the UK, with around 58 million. Next on the list, surprisingly, is actually Nigeria, with 43 million who mostly speak it as a second language. Then comes India, with about 37.3 million (only 320k of whom speak it as a first language) followed closely by the Phillipines with 36.4 million English speakers. Next are Canada (26 million), Australia (17 million), Pakistan (16 million), South Africa (13.6 million), and Cameroon (6.6 million), and Papua New Guinea (4.6 million). (Source: "The Future of English" by David Graddol.)
But a better way of asking the question might be to say, "Which country can I visit where it's most likely I'll run into an English speaker?" which takes density into account. In that instance, India doesn't fare nearly as well, as only about 3.5% of the population speaks English, compared to Nigeria where about 32% do, the Phillipines (43%), Cameroon (41%), South Africa (30%), Pakistan (about 11%), or Papua New Guinea (86%, though only 2% are actually fluent.) Using this approach you could also consider smaller places like Gambia, Guyana, or many places in the Carribean like Trinidad, where most speak English or a Creole form of it.
Don't forget Liberia. And with regard to the UK, where I am currently living (five more days, thank god), the question for an American is: can you understand the English these people speak? A lot times I can't.
Ireland's even worse as far as being able understand them, but it only has about 4 million people anyway. Now what bites about the UK's 60 million people or so is that they are all crammed into a place the size of Oregon. This country is unbelievably overcrowded and bloody expensive as well.
James D 2004
05-16-04, 20:49
you have to be careful about the 2nd language bit. most europeans pick english as 2nd language at school. most educated germans speak standard english fluently without funny accents of the british. i wouldn't say that about the french, even if they talk to you in english in public.
in asia, the extreme being hk, a former british colony, english is suppose to be the 2nd language. the kids are taught and tested, listening skills and oral skills. but if you talk to them in english on the streets, they will be shocked and speechless. at work even most documents are in english, unless they have an english speaking colleague, in no way they speak english to each other and their english oral skills deteroriate once they leave school or college.
the other day in san francisco, after some sex i asked my korean mp girl how old is she. she has no problem understanding but her natural reaction is to raise two curly fingers not vertically nor horizontally, which could be very obscene in some other cultures.
in some cultures where there are many dialects and the tribes couldn't understand each other, the 2nd language english will be spoken very often and often offical. like the eu. (forget french, they always find a way to upset the majority)
in homogeneous cultures like japan and china, it's wishful thinking for average providers to speak the 2nd language if they even have one. japanese are notoriously known for their bad english even in publications.
the other to watch are former british and american colonies or naval bases.
Dunderhead
05-16-04, 21:02
To The World: England! But you can't get your filthy foreign hands on them. Ha.
Cash Works
05-17-04, 00:20
Joe Zop,
Interesting Statistics. Where'd you get them? I'm not trying to say they're wrong, but according to some trivia game (no idea which one) that a former co-worker would use in an attempt to stump me: the country with the most English speakers is actually China. Personally, I don't believe it. I've never actually been to China, but know a number of people who have and they seem to agree with what TallnHandsome says: they may "technically" speak English, but when conversing with a native English speaker, it would appear that most of them are speaking some other language.
When dealing with the French, I found that offering to speak in some other language (used to be Portuguese for me, but I'm a bit rusty) would usually get them to speak English. I would generally say something like, "Excuse me, I don't speak French, Voce fala Portuguese?" They would either try to speak Portuguese or they would say "No, I don't speak Portuguese, but I do speak English." This even worked in Paris!
CW
Smut V,
I would think Chinese, Indian, Bengali, are good for LTR because alot of times they come from traditional backgrounds. You know, where a woman is a woman who is there to take care of her man. They don't get involved in alot of the materialistic bs that can detract a woman from being what she is (here in NYC). And that is saying a lot! Had an Indian woman tell me to get an indian wife since they like to cook and clean. Most of the Indian woman here are real friendly and make you feel like you are a man. Not to mention being pretty with nice hips and a fat ass!
Missed out a chance on a cute bengali chick, 22yo. I would go to the restaurant she worked at and she would always give me food for free and ask me to come to her house so she could make me dinner. Didn't pay her no mind for a while then one day I walk in and she says she's getting married. And this is a week after asking me on a date. Evidently she just wanted to get married and be a housewife because her friends told me she asked her parents to arrange a marriage for her. Not too long after, the stuck-up primadonna I was wasting all my time on dumped me. So now I am totally assed out. It's hard to even relate this, believe me.
The hottest chick I ever met was Tibetan. Name of Dei-chin? Golden brown porcelain skin, almond shaped brown eyes, slender, english-speaking, just the right height, and real nice. Met her waiting for the LIRR train in Woodside Queens. She asked me about the train since she just arrived in NYC 2 weeks earlier. We talked for a while, I was dumbstruck by her beauty. Never seen, met, or heard of any girl like this before. Really nice and sweet, courteous, pleasant and genuinely friendly. Had on sandals with flowers on them. It took all my willpower to keep from grabbing her pretty feet and rubbing them all over my face she was such a Goddess. She was going for a job interview as a housekeeper. Gave her my # but she never called. Realized I should have done the e-mail thing with her as girls are less intimidated online. Maybe I should have offered her $300 to be my housekeeper for a couple days a week! Always looked for her, walked the streets, prayed to God I would see her again. No such luck. I mean, I would have married this chick ASAP and never looked at another woman again. It kills me to think Someone so genuine got away from me and is at risk because they are so special. People prey on girls like her and I hope she is doing well now, 3 years later. So that is my sad tale of woe. Now I'm on point like like a laser, just waiting to get that once in a lifetime chance again.
Sorry - I stand corrected. Saw too many zeros & didn't check my facts.
James D 2004
05-17-04, 18:45
Faulk
Ah, actually the English girls are rather good for LTR. I can't find any statistics, but English bride are huge in USA. Really not a lot different from Russian and Asian brides. You just don't notice them. (For this reason I don't generalize to British brides, some are obvious when they talk.) Tourist went to England, met someone, marry after a while. A guy had a long stay in B&B, hit the owner's daughter and got married.
They love foreigners, foreigners that go places. That are so many bored English girls, nurses, teachers, secretaries, B&B owner's daughters. They are so young and attractive. Did you ever see any young and attractive nurses, teachers, secretaries, B&B owner's daughters in California? USA? Without special skills, without someone to light up their lives, the best they hope for is a steady job and the pension. Can't afford a decent car or house.
I love English providers. Outside London in some rich towns there are so many nurses teachers secretaries having a second job. In LA you don't find such young talents taking at most 2 clients a day after work, usually not even every day. They kiss a lot, orgasm a lot. If you say you are from LA or USA, they will think about their successful Brit friends who relocate there, forgetting about the one in four in USA has xxx, and one in yyy in USA has zzz.
They like foreigners, especially those with dollars and yens, and all those looked like they have dollars and yens, that's anyone with a foreign accent. Indeed, I think you locals can't see too much of them. I think some only see those with a foreign accent or out of town accent. Because it's too embarrassing for locals. I saw a nurse in a small town who works in the only major hospital round the corner of my resort hotel.
T&H
James D 2004
05-17-04, 21:44
rastaman
sure we have that, the most famous being the one who killed his white wife and got away.
blacks in britain of in very small percentage, at least compared to the usa. so the pool of black women is rather limited, while white women is that much more.
la for example is full of all sorts of beautiful women, like laker's bryan, who has a very beautiful wife who is i think latina. though i don't know why he is interested in a 19 year old white girl, who accused him of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
t&h
James D 2004
05-18-04, 03:52
rasta
i don't watch any balls. i saw oj on the slow speed chase and all about him on the cable news channel.
honestly i can't quote any celeb that are b/w inter-racial. but there must be many other inter-racial. one reason is that it's no big deal, no deal at all in america. say prince like to use tall white woman in music videos to complement his small black body.
oj's wife is typically a white trophy wife.
i've been in europe and asia long time and had many white and asian women. i prefer asians.
t&h
Cash Works, the stats come from two places -- one is the cited publication "The Future of English" by David Graddol and the other is from Ethnologue, (web version at ethnologue.com) which looks at all the languages used in various countries, as well as where various languages are used. I've found the printed version of the latter invaluable in some of the work I've done in various places. Graddol's book is from 1997, but I've been unable to find anything more recent that's at all comprehensive.
It's possible that the actual trivia fact your friend may have been trying to stump you with is "what is the most spoken language in the world?" which is in fact Mandarin Chinese by a wide margin (it is also now the non-English language other than Spanish most likely to be spoken in a US home, according to the Census bureau.)
I know there's been a very large push in China around learning English in recent years, as it opens possibilities for getting jobs in urban areas, but I've been unable to track down any actual hard (or even soft) numbers in terms of how many actually speak it.
TNH, I do think Rasta has a point -- the only two examples you mention are couples where the black guys involved are accused of crimes.
Rasta, there are of course other examples of famous interracial couples in the US -- Taye Diggs and Idina Menzel, Wayne Brady and his wife, Cuba Gooding and his, for example, not to mention Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren, and Lenny Kravitz and Nicole Kidman, though of course the latter two women aren't US citizens. Your point's well taken, however.
CBGBConnisur
05-18-04, 18:19
You forgot the biggest interracial celebrity couple, well they are currently an ex-couple, Oprah Winfrey and Dr. Phil!! There's also J-Lo and Ben Affleck, well they're not a couple anymore. There's also Maury Povich and Connie Chung. There is also Ed Norton and Salma Hayek, although I don't think they are an item. Robert De Niro and Naomi Campbell used to date. I heard Schwarzenegger was dating a Hispanic woman when he was a young star. Oh yeah Dolph Lundgren and Grace Jones.
Gentlemen,
Have any of you given any thought to reporting this appalling lack of high profile interracial couples to Klanwatch? Or possibly Amnesty International or the ACLU?
The suggestion would seem to be if you marry someone of a similar skin-tone you are a racist. Interesting. Pure BS, but interesting; also a tad off topic.
Cheers,
Sporadic
What about Ed Norton and Ralph Kramden? Who gives a shit? If interracial marriage were compulsory, in two or three generations everyone would be brown and it would cease to be an issue.
Here in the UK, you see many interracial couples. But, the man is always the black or dark one and the woman is always the white or light one. Why is that?
PS: "Always" = 98% or so
Cash Works
05-21-04, 10:04
Joe Zop,
Thanks for the info. It may come in useful if I ever run across that former co-worker. Thinking back on it now, you're probably right about the question being "what language is spoken by most people in the world" Could be that my answer was English, though I think I would have actually said Spanish.
Rasta, Dickhead, et al.
I'm a white American male. I'm not a high profile individual and I don't feel intimidated. I've had relationships (lasted more than a couple of hours, anyway) with 6 African American women over the last 25 years, not including pros. I can honestly say though, that you notice people staring at you when you're out and about. I can't recall the number of pros I've been with, but most of my sexual relationships (ltr as well as str, pro as well as non-pro) have been with non-white women - Latinas, Africans & Asians. I wouldn't say that this is due to any preference on my part, mostly geography & availability of tail due to the fact that until about 2 years ago, most of my time was spent in West Africa, South America & Southeast Asia.
The only time somebody tried to give me a hard time about the interracial thing was in the early '80's when I was in college. On a Friday night, I bumped into a friend at a bar (she was African American) and we took off to my place where we wound up doing the deed. The following night, I was at another bar and some kid (legal drinking age back then was 18 - I think he had a fake ID) came up to me with his two buddies and started giving me a hard time about my choice of sexual companions (he even included a number of racial slurs leading me to believe that he may have been a junior klansman or something) - apparently, he noticed me leaving with my friend the previous night. My response to this was - "Little boy, it's none of your business what, or who, I was doing last night, but since we're on the subject, while I was ball deep in a female last night, what were you doing - jacking off to your daddy's porno collection?" The kid looked like he wanted to beat me up, but his buddies were laughing their asses off so he ran away.
CW
Smut Villain
05-21-04, 19:39
Cash Works,
YESSSSS!!!!!!!! That's exactly how you should handle a fucking bigot!
Besides, aren't we all the same color when the lights go out :)?
JackDaniels
05-21-04, 21:32
Dickhead
I have often wondered that (in my long and distinguished career as a sociologist).
My theory: the mental make up of a woman is such that she is less likely to be racially biased than a man. She is more perceptive of the inner person. We men are prone to a type selection - this can be anything from preference for blondes over brunettes, a preference for Asians, tall over short, and so on and so on.
OK, this may explain the light skinned women's choice of partner (which is less racially biased). How about the dark skinned woman and her choice of partner ? Does the above theory need to be further qualified by saying that there are cultural differences that makes women from some groups choose a similar type as their choice of partner ?
This may explain what we see in the UK.
CBGBConnisur
05-21-04, 22:36
Latinos and latinas do not make up any single racial group some are caucasian, some are black, some are in between, some look native American, Latinos can't be put into one single racial group. In this way Latinos are analagous to Arabs and Turks. Arabs and Turks contrary to the major news networks do not make up a single racial group. Many Arabs and Turks look caucasian, as many as half of them, and some are dark skinned with straight black hair, others look African looking.
James D 2004
05-22-04, 00:15
JD, I already have a simple theory. Usually the simpler one is the truth.
Difference in sex - trophy wife are more than trophy husband, indeed rarely heard about the latter. Rich and famous more male than female, CEO's, a lot more male move stars charging top dollars, football (both sports) stars.
The minorities in UK is nothing compared to USA. If a trophy hunter limits his/her find in his/her own race, a lot less to choose from.
CBGB - you are right about the Hispanic bit, carefully used by USA census. There's no definition, you tick the box if you think you are Hispanic. That's to be somehow connected with Spanish speaking, historical south American roots, native South Americans, and black immigrants taken there.
The major news networks are right that Arabs and Turks are race. The difference in looks is the same as the difference between a north Italian and a south Italian, I doubt if the south Italian doesn't consider himself Caucasian. Trying asking the race of an Arab or Turk and you won't get different answers. A native Egyptian will always consider himself/herself Arab. But then what is race? Talking about race is a mine field, I'm gone.
I live in a southwestern US city with no street scene, and no massage parlors. The only options for P4P are high priced escorts that one has to pay $200 or so for an hour, and stip-clubs, where one can sometimes get stimulated to the point of completion for the price of a several couch dances in the semi-private VIP area (less than $100, unless the girl is milking you for time in there). I don't mean to give the impression that I'm getting laid at my local topless bar--I'm referring to getting a handjob while kneading and licking the dancers breasts, buttocks, etc. Or having the dancer grind her ass and boobs on my Johnson just so till there's a happy ending. I know this may sound lame to more well travelled readers, but it's what the local scene has to offer a lower-income guy like me.
Anyhoo, you're all probably wondering why I'm interjecting this here. Well, in the years I've been going to clubs and seeking out this kind of relief, I've noticed a definite trend--and this relates to the discussion going on in here about race: it's my distinct impression that the Latina and African-American girls will be much more likely to go the extra mile (ie, make one cum during the lap dance) than the pretty young white girls, especially the blondes. I've had pretty young white blondies take me right to the brink and then ask for totally unreasonable amounts of money for a completion (I'm talkin' $100-$200, for a fucking handjob, or for rubbing tits and ass on my cock for chrissakes...). Generally, the Latinas and the African-American chicks will just do their best to get me off without me having to ask for anything in particular, and they usually don't mention extra money at all. It's as if they (the ethnic beauties) just know what a lap dance in the VIP area is supposed to be about, while the white girls take advantage of the legal status of P4P and demand ridiculous sums for "breaking the rules". Has anyone else had similar experience or made similar observations in other venues? What explanation can there be for the difference in attitude I'm noticing between hot young white babes and their ethnic counterparts? I'd love to hear comments, theories.
Jwny72 my friend,
Try to save some money. Take one, just one, trip during off peak season to Germany ( for example). Go to any of those fkk clubs, believe me, you'll NEVER look at those scanks bitches back home the same way.
You deserve better then a OVER price hand job during a lap dance.
Cash Works
05-22-04, 19:04
jwny72,
You should take a look in the "American Women" thread here in "Opinions". The discussion there is all about what you're talking about, but it's not broken down by race, just nationality. I have to agree with you somewhat though. White Americans have a lot more of the Puritanical/"Yankee trader" (lots of hang-ups and very mercenary) culture than other Americans, who are a bit more relaxed about such things, IMHO.
TNH,
I think you're very wise to try getting off the race subject, but since we're here and Arabs have been mentioned, I would like to caution people about confusing Iranians with Arabs - they're Persian, which is generally considered Caucasian (the Caucasus mountains are between the Caspian and Black Seas and the term "caucasian" is derived from peoples originating there). I only bring this up because I've worked with a number of Iranians over the years and they get very annoyed when they're lumped in with the Arabs merely because of their religion and the proximity of Iran to the Arab states. Similar reaction to Welsh or Scottish or Irish people being called English.
CW
Wanderer1000
05-23-04, 02:16
jwny72 -
IMHO - hot, young, white American babes (especially blonds) are spoiled and know that they have enormous power in the U.S. Blondes seem to be idolized by a lot of guys - I think the term for blue-eyed blond girls in the modeling field is often referred to as the "All-American" look.
My guess would be that the Latinas and African-American girls are maybe not as "high" on themselves and therefore feel (not necessarily conscious of it) that they need to work a little harder to earn a guys satisfaction with them by performance and not just looks.
Like I said, just my humble opinion. What do you think?
ChicagoBoy23
05-24-04, 01:24
Can anybody comment on Chilean women ?
Thanks in advance !
Wanderer1000
05-24-04, 01:49
Hi Rastaman -
I've seen your posts in the Brazil section. I know you're an African-American man.
I didn't understand your post. Please explain.
Iceberg Slim
05-24-04, 06:00
Gentlemen prefer blondes. I know I do. The message is reinforced by popular culture (movies,..) Marylin Monroe, Madonna, and these ladies know their value.
I once met an attractive Swedish girl in London and she told me she dyed her hair blonde because of the expectations that a Swedish girl should be blonde. She told she then got a lot of attention from men.
There is also an element of scarcity which push their value in the marketplace in the US. In nothern Europe, Blondes are still prized but because of their high numbers their value is lmore reasonable.
My 2 cents worth
Rastaman, it's my guess that the forbidden fruit principle is at work there. Blonde white American girls like black males for the same reason black males like white American girls, especially blondes apparently. I'm only a little jealous. And I certainly don't mean to imply that women, blonde or not, wouldn't have a reason to find you attractive other than the novelty of your skin color.
What's the big deal about blondes? I actually think brunettes are sexier. Not that a beautiful blonde isn't a beautiful woman mind you.
In my sexual experience, P4P or not, pretty, white girls, even brunettes, are the least responsive. When I have gone to bed with them, they've tended to act like cold fish. On the other hand, I've been to bed with Black and Latina women, and some were super-attractive, who I know good and well enjoyed fucking me--they let me know.
I tend to think class, culture, and ethnicity have more to do with sexual mores (sociological term for habits and attitudes) than nationality, which is why I think the American Women thread is poorly conceived.
CBGBConnisur
05-24-04, 14:06
Blondes are overrated and from personal experience the best women are Latina, Mediterranean types(EVERY COUNTRY THAT SURROUNDS THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA HAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN), and Asian women. Among these groups I have rarely seen women that are overweight or unattractive, another thing is that many women from these groups age well, and don't lose their looks rapidly. There are a lot of good looking attractive blondes but then again I've seen many that are fat and ugly.
Cash Works
05-24-04, 22:13
I can't say that I really have a "type" preference. Whether it's hair color, breast size, etc. For me, it all comes down to how she's put together. I suppose that the only "type" that would be preferential to me would be on height. In my experience, short women just work better for me in bed. I enjoy looking at tall slim women (model types), but I've been to bed with a few women who are nearly as tall as me (I'm 6'0" tall) and while the sex was enjoyable, it always seemed to be a bit more awkward (elbows always seem to end up where you don't want them) than with women who are 10-12 inches shorter than me.
I guess that South America and Southeast Asia are the best places to find short women (5-0" - 5'6"), though I did wind up with a woman in Louisiana once who was 4'9" - definitely the shortest woman I've ever been with, and no, she wasn't a dwarf. The women in South America and Southeast Asia tend to be brunette, so I suppose it's a good thing I don't have a preference against brunettes.
CW
JackDaniels
05-24-04, 22:24
The deal about blondes:
With blondes, everything has to be just right for them to look stunning. The slightest imperfection shows up dramatically. They also have a shorter shelf life. However, when everything is just right, they just shine and shine and shine. To adapt a quote from the film "Blade Runner", they may shine for just half as long but they shine twice as bright.
True, brunettes are sexier and I prefer them over blondes (and I am a gentleman), but every now and then there is the prefect embodiment of womanhood, a fanastic blonde.
So get a brunette for a wife and a blonde for a mistress.
Nicely put Jack Daniels. I especially liked your movie reference--Blade Runner is a great film. I also agree with CBGBConnisur about Mediterranean types (of which I consider Latinas to me a member, really) being devestatingly attractive, and warmer I'll add--they seem to like men.
I feel like I should also add at this point that I think we're all speaking in generalities--I know pretty, blonde All-American types who are warm, friendly, and passionate; and I've known Mediterranean types, and Blacks who are icy-cold and aloof. I haven't known very many Asian women personally, though I certainly think they're beautiful. I've been to a few Korean run massage parlors in the LA area, and the P4P action was quite nice.
James D 2004
05-26-04, 07:55
This blonde topic is getting not interesting. Most of the women mentioned, Med types and Latina, can dye their hair blonde, and look not a lot different from a white blonde woman. I mean a South Italian with blonde hair is very much like many woman with tan and deep tan. And that many Latina are very pale, indeed plenty of South Americans are direct European decedents. Plenty of blondes in Argentina.
Since there aren't that much natural blonde, a blonde is really a statement. In places like Britain it is, because hair coloring isn't that common. In California it isn't a statement anymore. 1st if you ever drive from S Cal to N Cal not in winter, bright golden is indeed the natural color of most of California. Any blonde will be over shadowed by the natural golden vegetation many many times. Even over weight housewife spend $200 just for the coloring. It's not whether brunette or blonde, it's what blonde coloring - there's infinite of them to pick from.
I'm saying with that much different type of blondes, there's hard to have any stereotypes.
Cash Works
05-26-04, 15:02
TNH,
If you're getting bored with blondes, why not switch to red heads?
I think red heads are even more scarce than blondes and they seem to come in two varieties - absolutely stunning or ghastly. There are very few average looking red heads, so I would have to say that the most scarce "type" would have to be the good looking red head.
I dated one (non pro) for about 6 months a number of years ago - she was not only nice to look at, but very passionate in bed. She was an American of Irish & Greek decent. The Irish gave her the red hair and green eyes, the Greek gave her skin that would tan rather than burn (almost no freckels).
CW
CBGBConnisur
05-26-04, 20:54
Latinas being classified as Mediteranean types makes sense, since virtually all Latinas have at least some ancestry from either Spain, Portugal, or Italy, which are all Mediterranean countries.
JackDaniels
05-26-04, 22:18
It doesn't matter if the blonde is natural or due to colouring. The important issue is what she looks like with blonde hair. That is the bottom line. Hair colour can be changed in an hour. It is just a dressing, natural or not. It is just a question, do you like it or not ?
I have always found the blonde issue intriguing. I think it is right to discuss it here - why not ?
My opinion, IMHO, is that it is worth looking at the whole package. Anyone who just likes blondes and nothing else is missing out on a lot. I have met quite a few people who say just that - "I only go for blondes". OK, who would you prefer Courtney Cox from Friends or Courtney Love from..........where ?
Each to his own. There is no right or wrong; but I do feel that anyone who is blonde centric needs to get out and about and see the world.
BTW, Blade Runner is not just a great film - it is an outstanding film.
Cheers.
Couple months ago spotted this blond chick on the street in Manhattan. Now I don't usually jump out my shoes for blondes but this one had shiny, short blond hair you could spot a mile away. Moved in to investigate and seen she was good looking in a way I never seen before. Pretty with a happy face in a non attention getting way, except for the hair. Turns out she was a tourist with her whole group of friends or whatever. Ended up following her into The Holiday Inn and checked my stock quotes by phone while sneaking looks at her and listening to them speak in some Nordic language. So I'm just trying to figure out if she is the everyday girl in her country, cause if she is I'm off to Scandinavia with the quickness!
CBGB,
Latinas being classified as Mediteranean types makes sense, since virtually all Latinas have at least some ancestry from either Spain, Portugal, or Italy, which are all Mediterranean countries.
While I will admit to picking the fly shit out of the pepper here, Portugal is not a Med country, wrong side of Gibraltar.
Ignoring Greece and the entire north coast of Africa, not to mention the eastern med, the best, IMHO description of Latinas is simply "Latinas" or possibly Hispanic. They both work, Latina being broader, and are a better cultural, ethnic match.
Cheers,
Sporadic
James D 2004
05-28-04, 20:12
Mike, yes she is the everyday girl in those countries. But before you buy the ticket, you need to buy some video or books and try out everything inside, until you are good. Otherwise whatever you try to do in bed, they'll probably yawn.
Organicgrowth
05-31-04, 15:07
Mike12,
I agree 100% with TallnHandsome.
If you are going to any of the Nordic countries for pay for play: no problem. However if you intend to go to find a long-tem relationship, you need to learn their ways. From personal experience I can tell you that well honed oral skills will get you remembered. Nordic chicas love both cunnilingus AND analingus (we know that nearly all women do, but for these coutnries I have found it a special case).
Their normal open mindedness is the route you can take to win them over. Best wishes.
Regards, Havanaman
Ps. You might like to check out: http://www.discountvideosales.com/.sc/ms/dd/1032987946/962713/nc/VIDEOS--Lesbian/181/Cunnillingus%204%20Dummies
~ taught me a couple of tricks!
Fellas,
I just like the way these Nordic chicks look good in an appealing way without being really knockout pretty. like the idea of woman being exotic in ways I have never seen before. Saw another one on the train today and just knew she wasn't American and sure enough she was talkin in another language besides English. Too bad NYC doesn't have a Little Sweden or Norway section I can hang around in. Thanks for the links by the way. Maybe someday I will get lucky enough to use the techniques.
To all concerned,
Since the current discussion seems to be about blonde women, here's my 2 cents worth. I used to (repeat, used to) be strongly attracted to blonde girls. I think it was something about the hair that made them look younger. Of course there was always the hope the the "other" hair would be blonde as well! However, I've noticed over the years that most blonde women seem to possess an innate form of arrogance.
I thought about this for the longest time before coming to the conclusion that it must have something to do with supply and demand. Most guys seem to be attracted to blonde girls. Most girls aren't blondes. Therefore the ones that are, always have a pile of guys chasing them. As a result, they seem to get kind of spoiled and demanding. They develop high expectations because they've gotten used to the attention that these guys lavish onto them. I'd also be willing to bet that this isnt the case in countries where blonde hair is a lot more common, eg. Sweden or Finland.
Anyways, the last white girl I went out with was a natural blonde and that was at least 5 years ago. Since then, I've been with almost every other kind of girl, black, asian and east indian. To tell the truth, I'm as happy as I've ever been. Variety truly is the spicew of life!
Oh, and one other thing.
If you really do want to settle with one of those fair-skinned
blonde haired women, keep her out of the sun or she'll be a bag of wrinkles by the time she's thirty. That smooth pink skin just doesnt last.
Mystic Pimp
06-28-04, 01:03
Cash Works:
I also happen to prefer shorter women (women shorter than 5'7")
Fellas,
Has anyone been to Croatia lately ? I'm headed to Dubrovnik, and Split Mid-August would appreciate any feedback. If the actions slim at least we wrap up our EE trip in Latvia & Estonia.
Moose K.
Travel Capt
08-16-04, 04:31
first forget coratia it sucks. split is worst, on the same lines as malta.
getting back to "what country is best for 24/7 sex and more sex".
nigeria is good, cost is around 20 dollars for the night. also the
women are 7-10 and plentyful. [deleted by admin]
what do you guys think any spots like this you know about?
besides the regular destinations.
thanks,
cap!
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California Guy
09-06-04, 22:42
If you could pick any country in Europe to visit which would one would you choose? I will be heading there and wanted to see what people thought. Netherlands, Hungary, Czech, etc.? Costs can be an objective but I am looking more to have fun and enjoy my time, so if spending a little extra will do this then I am okay with it, just don't want to spend several hundred per hour for a girl when I can do that in the US!
Thanks.
Little Jared
09-11-04, 19:54
I don't know which western european countries are the best (and I d like to know too), but I do know France is no good at all. Mechanical sex, so-called girls bars where despite all that you re told you're allowed to do NOTHING, I say NOTHING. The best you can do is FS/BJ (/maybe AS if youre ready to pay about 200€, which I'm not) by only sw (brothels don't exist in France) whose slogan seems to be "the faster the better". Sorry for those who thought french girls are as hot as their reputation says, It's totally wrong. help me.
Thanks
Superstar II
09-26-04, 07:20
Travel Capt:
You mention Nigeria. I have really been interested in going there but hear it is very dangerous. I hear that one should take precautions like having a personal driver waiting for you at the airport and that one should NEVER walk alone at night amongst other precautions. How accurate is this?
Cork Sucker
10-17-04, 17:38
Which country is best to look for a young wife? Phillipines?
Probably some remote areas of asia will have the best quality among young brides. Can somebody please give more information on the subject of best places to find young submissive, obidient wife for at least a few yours.
I have a question. Do anyone here know if India is a good place for brothers to? I have heard that India is really racist. I hope it isn't true because I love indian girls. I am planning a RTW trip. My first stop is Germany/Netherlands. Before going to the Phillipines, I am thinking about going to UAE or India. Should I make the stop or just keep going? I will make one more stop in Brazil before I go back home to Dallas,TX. Any help will be greatly appreiated.
I am black and I went to Brazil to see some friends the women were really receptive! Especially the mulatas (some have blue eyes)! Just go to any fast food restaurant and speak english little and they will start to flirt!
I also heard Chile is a good place to go for brothers!
Also I dated a Columbian girl in the U.S. She told me that there is a island where White European and White American women travel to have sex with black men! There are places in Jamaica like that too!
I know a lot of Japanese girls and some love black guys! As a matter of fact my roommate who is Jamaican has a live in Japanese girlfriend. My friend who are white and U.S. Marines told me that black guys in Japan don't have to pay for pussy or food because the Japanese girls spoil them!
I the Philipines blacks are treated good!
I Thailand "The land of vertical smiles" black are treated good!
Basically avoid China and Korea!
I even heard Taiwan was o.k. not the best but o.k.
Go to www.goldsea.com in the poll section for asian women and black men! And you will see some examples of blacks in asia.
You just have to remember that most asian are easily influenced by the media! And some take everything as fact. So the best thing to do is to be sensitive to their concerns and try to smile and be helpful. Explain all question clearly and even when you're pissed don't get emotional!
Here is a story you may like! A buddy of mine was in the USAF and he was sent to Greenland! It was so cold there and the base he was at there were no females 64 men!
So all of the white men would go to a city called "Too Lee" but they would tell the black men they hate you in "TOO LEE" don't go! So he being a brother went anyway!
When he arrive he saw brothers with 5 girls a piece driving the local (girls) cars staying in their home and kicken it at the bars with them!
Iceland, Poland, Romania and Hungry are the same way!
Black music (Rap,Hip Hop) has helped and damaged our imagine aboard in many ways, exploit the positive! Just remember we control youth culture with our styles!
The Philippines can be a very good choice. The women all seem to like to provide sexual favors to their men. It's a weird blend of the typical Asian feeling of female duty to the male and the Roman Catholic dictum to be fruitful and multiply, without the negative spin.
Thailand is just "F*ck Heaven", but I don't think you will find even the level of sincerity and loyalty you find in P.I. Filipino culture is way different from ours, but at least there are some commonalities, i.e. language and church. Thailand is almost like being on Mars.
China has been my favorite ever since I visited Hong Kong in my youth. The women have a subtle classiness about them, they are extremely loyal, kind, and supportive, and most are very traditional, and they are generally extraordinarily accomodating to their partner's needs. They even have a term for their period, "women's holiday", that implies recognition of their duty to provide an outlet for their men, but it seems to be less of an obligatory feeling than just a recognition of the differing levels of drive between the genders and how they perceive that fact.
I have yet to meet a Chinese girl who has been anything but passionate and accomodating, assuming your relationship has that as a goal. I have known absolutely STUNNING Chinese women who were married and loyal to literal sh*t-turds on legs... I think they are generally the most trustworthy of all the different cultures and nationalities I have come into contact with. I have also never known a Chinese girl who was anything but scrupulously clean, something that I like, and something that I have found to be lacking in far too many Hispanic women in my experience.
Just my opinion.
Spike, out....
Hey everyone,
Just wanted to take this opportunity to contribute my 2 cents worth on this subject.
A lot of guys are writing in with comments like "Thai girls are the best" or Phillipina, Latina, Chinese, Czech etc. It's most definitely true that there are lots of great women to be found in any of these countries. It's also true that women are women no matter where you go.
I absolutely guarantee that you can run into some real stinkers no matter what country you go to. The women in these different countries might be better on average, but you're not going out with a statistic. You have to be looking at each girl on an individual basis.
They might seem really great while they're "over there", but how long will that last? Just read through the various forums right here at WSG and you will see stories of women who changed after they got out of their own countries. Some got fat, some got greedy and materialistic, some of them took off as soon as they had their green card/citizenship. I have personally run into party girls, visa-hunters and straight-up ripoff artists.
I'm not saying that you can't find a good woman overseas (or south of the border). There's lots of good ones out there and they're mostly better than the ones we get stuck with here. Just don't go over there with some kind of dream-fantasy that you're gonna meet "The Perfect Woman". The same rules apply here. If you really want to be sure about her, it's gonna take some time. The best thing to do would be to arrange for some kind of visitors visa. It should allow them to come for at least 3 or 4 months. If a woman is just looking to use you for something, it will be a lot harder for her to keep up an act for that long.
Is all this trouble worth it? I think so. Especially if you are serious about getting someone from overseas for a long-term relationship.... and that is what this forum is about.
My 2 cents for today,
Rock
In response to Venom187's question about India and Middle East.
I've been to Dubai, Qatar, Bahrain in the middle east and Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka in S.Asia. In all of these places the colour of your money is much more important than the colour of your skin. The culture in these countries is far too old and sophisticated toi have the crude racism that we find in N.America or W.Europe.
In the middle east most action that I came across tended to be Russian. They're total pro's and as such are not racist - they just want your money. The local girls in the clubs in Dubai will happily chat and dance but I don't think it's possible to get there for casual sex - white, black or whatever, these girls just don't put out. Middle East is expensive and not to everyone's liking.
Now India and Sri Lanka are a totally different kettle of fish. You should go to these countries anyway regardless of p4p action. The culture, people, landscape and history are so amazing just go anyway, if you're going to Phillipines and Brazil you'll get enough action there. You can get action in India and Sri Lanka, and it will be very cheap, just RTF. They will not have any problems with skin colour - they judge people on a much wider and more subtle range of factors. In Buddhist Sri Lanka your inner state is much more important than your ethnicity.
Enjoy your travels !
Mystic Pimp
01-03-05, 02:44
This may be slightly off topic, but this was a pretty fascinating and shocking story to me. This guy is a 64 years old businessman, has had 58 wives in the last 50 years, with at least 30 children, not to mention his most recent wife is only 14!!! Who needs P4P when you can just marry as much as you want? Of course, in places like Saudi Arabia, where the relations between men and women are vastly different from other areas (like the USA), some people wouldn't even make a big deal out of it. Anyway, for the full story, there's a link below, this can also be found if you do a web search.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-01-01-saudi-polygamy_x.htm
HotTraveler
01-06-05, 13:20
I don´t know Asian countries, only latinamerican countries.
I visited Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Colombia and Brazil.
I live in Spain and naturally I speak spanish,for this raison I prefer to go to latinamerican countries,but also I´m very attracted toward Thailand.
If someone is searching for a wife,the best option perhaps is the city of Cali in the south of Colombia.Here there are the most beautiful and exciting girls from South America.
But if you like variety,Brazil is the best place.In the north there are mulatas and black girls,in the south generally are blondes with european origin.
In my opinion,here a list with the best countries (only latinamerican places):
Brazil.
Cuba.
Dominican Republic. (here don´t are so pretty like in Brazil, but are young)
Puerto Rico is really a wonderful place, but only for their beaches. I was
disappointed for the actitude of the women.
Greetings
Digital Curry
06-16-05, 03:28
What countries are you treated like royalty by the local girls?
How is Peru, Colombia, Equidor, Honduras, Romania, Ukraine, Czech? These countries seem promising. Cuba I've already been to.
Yusta Vansel
10-20-05, 16:17
Based on my past experiences, Belarus has the best women for Long Term Relationship. They remain sweet and tender with a softness that is absolutely desirable. They are strong, flourish with a spirit that goes deep into a history that embraces a gypsy balalaika dance, a vodka drink, a covered head in a cathedral.
Based on my past experiences, Belarus has the best women for Long Term Relationship. They remain sweet and tender with a softness that is absolutely desirable. They are strong, flourish with a spirit that goes deep into a history that embraces a gypsy balalaika dance, a vodka drink, a covered head in a cathedral.
I've been to Minsk and I stayed there a few weeks. I also know Ukraine quite well and some others countries in Eastern Europe.
I don't really agree with you about Belarus women for Long Term Relationship. Yes they are sweet and really interested in meeting Western European men or American men, yes they have lots of positives aspects and qualities.
If you look like LTR, best countries are Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia and some others countries in Central America.
Girls are not interested in money as much as in Eastern Europe. Furthermore girls in S.A. are much sweetier, hoter than in Belarus. Of course, that's personnal experiences in these both parts of the world.
I agree with Volpone that the former Soviet Union, while nice, is hardly the terrestrial paradise in this respect. I think there are three main questions one needs to ask oneself: (1) where does her family fit in? (2) how adaptable is a woman from country XX to life in the west? and (3) how might her attitude change once she crosses the border? Further to each of these points:
1) This is where most of the trouble with Asian women (or, at least, from Thailand, Indochina and the Philippines) seems to come in. Whether they work as a parlour maid, a dance in a bar or marry a wealthy foreigner the guiding principle is "I'm doing this for the folks back home". It would be impardonably egoistic for them to jet off to a cosseted existance in California or Germany without ensuring a stream of money back to the parents. Being married into an Asian family normally means accepting extensive financial obligations. (The one exception I know of is when men marry a bargirl past her "retirement age": her alternative would have been to return to the family and live at their expense, so...)
2) Here, of course, women from Eastern Europe score highly, with Asian and African women somewhat lower and Latin Americans somewhere in the middle. I've even known Russian women who taunted West Europeans for "having had the fight kicked out of them" and preferred Americans on account they know to persevere in adversity. (Certainly, the "welfare state" has had such effects in many countries...) I'll not be surprised to see many Eastern ladies with successful businesses in North America over the next generation.
3) Unfortunately, with the stream of Mercedes and Bentleys roaming the streets of Moscow these days, the standards of having "done well" in the FSU is no longer a car and a three-bedroom appartment. Think, big country house. Think, Chanel and Louis Vuitton. Think, holidays in Cannes and St. Moritz. In my experience, Latin American women are much more realistic in this respect: they want a good home and a stable income, c'est tout. Their staunch Catholicism moreover compels them to stick with "their man" as long as he behaves with a modicum of loyalty (same thing applies to the Filipinas). African women (here in France) is another hot bid: their countries are very poor and their men are, reportedly, so a monogamous Caucasian with a sizeable appartment seems like heaven on earth to many of them.
I think it's important to think ahead - far ahead - when dreaming of a LTR with a foreign woman. They're all sweet and loveable when you visit them in their countries. - And maybe they, many of them, are not play acting: you DO seem like a man of the world, a great catch, which being so any woman (including French, British and American ones) would play up to you as best she can. But... the question is, what happens the moment she crosses that border. ;-)
James D 2004
11-22-05, 16:08
1) Instead of saving up for retirement or welfare, Asians rely on their children to support them. Asian men contribute part of their monthly income to their parents. Same for Asian women. Instead of investing in stocks of companies with not much tax concession, they invest in their own people. If the investment fails, they only have themselves to blame. So after marriage, the parents of the bride expect the same contribution from the bride to continue. Unless you are supposed to be rich, you may promise more than the past contribution of the bride. You are also expected to help in times of hardship for direct relatives. So if the women can find a job or a business, she earns more than she did and you need not worry about any contributions on your part.
2) Did you mention California? CA is rather adaptable to all of its minorities. Look at it the other way round. Given the circumstances, Asians thrive. Another view point, no matter how well they are treated, in Europe they feel like guest, in US they feel more at home, even more so for communist China, where many traditions are lost or suppressed, like red tapes on business. If you bring one in, just prepare to at least take tax advantage for setting up a 'hobby business', and she will do the rest.
3) Attitude? Ha. Where do you thing fake Louis Vuitton bags come from? They couldn't get any worse.
DJ FourMoney
11-26-05, 03:01
I haven't been out of the country yet, but I'm going to either South America or Europe next year.
I don't like the selection I have here currently. I have turned to mongering to get my sexual "fix" as it were. I just refuse to pay the elevated prices that American providers charge, so I'm taking not only my sexual desires but my desire for a LTR out of the country.
I date white women and latinas almost exclusively. Being a Black Man (African-American is so PC it makes me sick), I feel I can pull the same type of women (personality wise) with a decidedly "thinner" body as obesity is now out of control in the US, just as much as rampant single motherhood.
Life is a series of compromises and I'm willing to accept some things in trade for other things. The problem with American women now is its OKAY for you to be BBW and its not okay if you find it unacceptable. Single mothers expect to you take on the responiblity of a ready made family just as your becoming comfortable wiping your own ass, let alone some childs.
Those are the main reasons for seeking LTR elsewhere. However American Black Males are doing damage elsewhere in the world. I notice a steady rise in single mother parenting in places where we have US Milatary bases, namely the Pacific Rim and Germany. I don't feel this hurts my opportunities that much, but does make issues like trust and finding childless women just that more diffucult.
I know black men are popular in Germany, just look at all the personal ads out there. They are being very specific also in stating they would like to talk to American Black Men and not African Black Men. Africans come from a different social structure that often doesn't work with women from Western Cultures such at Europe, Canada and the US. Canadian women tell me the exact same thing.
That's just from talking to these women and not some guestimation on my part. They aren't looking for a free ride to the US either, even though a alot of them would relocate for the right person.
Because of the language issues, I haven't spoke to that many Latinas outside of the US about this, so I was really courious about how "brothas" were treated outside of the US and Europe. Although never having visited Europe, I have a excellent idea because of friends that are recent transplants and my father has spent considerable time over there in the mid to late 80's.
That's what makes this board valuable to me, not only for mongoring information, but for the guys that take the time to seek out non-pro talent wherever they may travel.
So based on that information, I believe I can safely say that an American Black Man's best bets are -
Canada, specfically Vancouver, BC and the mostly english speaking proviances.
Germany, England, The Netherlands and Sweden in Europe
Japan, South Korea, Australia, Malyasha, Thailand and other island nations in the Pacific.
and from the looks of it Brasil, Costa Rica and Columbia in South America.
Most of these countries exposer to black men and black culture come from our Military instalations. I know this is true because I heard a report on NPR about some of the base closures in Germany and how alot of the servicemen were coming back to the US with their german wives and children in tow. It focused on a few interracial marriages on a peticular base that was on the closure list and mentioned some number I don't remember but its pretty significant.
From what I understand -
In Brasil is makes sense for Mullatas to be drawn towards black men. I mean, black for black right? Because of my perferance, I'll be mainly chasing "Loiras" down there and I specifically wanted to visit Sau Paulo first because of this. If I was interested mainly in Mullatas and Morenas then I would probaly make Rio my focus.
I also wanted to go down to Argentina, but I have little information to go on about the non-pros but generally brothas haven't had a problem with providers down there. It seems thought just like in Rio reports from other black men on these boards, they tend to chase Morenas and Mullatas around (judging by the photos posted), weather they are pro's or not. I don't understand why, when they could go to closer destinations and achive the same level of sucess, as in Columbia, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and even Mexico.
I'm seeking anywhere with European looks. In South America, they have the added bonus of being mixed with Brasilain or Argentinan Indian blood and thus "booty" is born, unlike alot of true euros that have booties only because of the popularity of Burger King and McDonald's outside the US. But that is at least better than most UK women that tend to be quite "chunky" as well, not to mention HORRIBLE teeth that alot of english residence suffer from.
Okay maybe I'm generalizing and rambling too much, but I would like to hear from other brothas and even non-brothas on this subject and do you think I'm onto something?
James D 2004
11-27-05, 02:34
I would suggest to forget about Asia, except near military bases or sex tourist destinations.
Even younger pros have trouble dealing with the stereotypical size of average white men.
East Asia, C,J,K, are rather mono-cultural societies. They don't even know how to handle their minorities. SE Asia are less mono, say most have significant Chinese as minorities. But the attitude toward minorities are just the same, you can say ignore, hostile in some sense.
C,J,K countries all favor pale skin women. Even in sub-tropical climate like HK, mothers go to swim with their daughters with lots of gears and towels covering the skin when they are not in the water. For if you get any darker, you will easily be mistaken as a Philipino/Thai/Indonesian maid.
Even in UK, outside of Manchester or London, you rarely see black guys. From US is a plus, but UK girls don't openly admit it like in Italy. You can see the polls in the news about European opinion toward USA. While in Italy near GI resorts, I have to admit to kids that I'm skinny Asian American GI, to save myself some explaining otherwise.
In South America, where the majority are white decedents from the old world. I feel that they draw a line between the local people, and those mixed people. And I think they have the wish that someday somehow someone will take them back to the old world.
DJ FourMoney
11-27-05, 07:54
I agree with you about Asians in general. I believe the best looking ones, although Americanized are already here. The SGV is full of excellent examples and I have dated a few here and there, just not my thing really.
I'll never forget the FOTB that latched on to me when I was working at the local mall as a stock person. She really wasn't up to my standards, but nice as pie and we went out a couple of times, even had been invited to her dorm a few times. I just was never really attracted to her so I just passed and let it slip.
I understand the polls, but I feel that has no direct effect on me because its a chassic example of the US Gov igorning its problems at home to try and solve other people's problems elsewhere. Because there is no money in helping minorities... I think is a case of Europeans that don't like Bush supporters traveling abroad. I even thought about wearing a shirt that said I didn't vote for Bush.. lol
No European girl has tripped about what I do for a living. The minute I tell an American woman, it congures up images of Smokey and the Bandit, BJ And the Bear, Convoy and any other "hick" based trucking movie or tv show.
I'll be the first to tell you, that yes there are fat, breaded, redneck types, that spit chew, bark on the CB, pay $25 for "lot lizards" and all the usual sterotypes. I'm about as "nerdy" and 180 as it gets compared to those idiots.
That makes looking for LTR harder than it needs to be and leaves alot of undesirables out there. Mongering at least gives me some control of where I stick my d*ck and it sure aint up no stanky lot lizard. The last time I was running I80 through Neveda, you see some of the brothels in Elko and all the other areas from the highway. You see big rigs parked there, but I was in a hurry to get back to LA so I can go home for 48 hours, I didn't want to stop. That's what planted the seed really. I had thought about it over the years, but I feel like this is the time I could do it and could actually afford to do it. I just didn't like the value return you got in Neveda even tho its legal and the affordable locals aren't attractive enough to make regular use of IMHO.
So I thought, hey I'll combine both. It might even improve my game, if I eliminate "bedding" the girl. I know that's in the back of every guys mind even in the first 60 seconds talking to a woman. I know women detect it, so I feel like we need some sort of coaking device, but until somebody comes up with that, I feel that being already sexually content in the last say 12 hours, you wouldn't be dropping inundo all over the place like most of us do when out to dinner with non-pros. Being a non sexual threat I feel is the best defence against women, seems to work with gay men.
Okay back to Neon Genesis Evangelion.
I would suggest to forget about Asia, except near military bases or sex tourist destinations.
Even younger pros have trouble dealing with the stereotypical size of average white men.
East Asia, C,J,K, are rather mono-cultural societies. They don't even know how to handle their minorities. SE Asia are less mono, say most have significant Chinese as minorities. But the attitude toward minorities are just the same, you can say ignore, hostile in some sense.
C,J,K countries all favor pale skin women. Even in sub-tropical climate like HK, mothers go to swim with their daughters with lots of gears and towels covering the skin when they are not in the water. For if you get any darker, you will easily be mistaken as a Philipino/Thai/Indonesian maid.
Even in UK, outside of Manchester or London, you rarely see black guys. From US is a plus, but UK girls don't openly admit it like in Italy. You can see the polls in the news about European opinion toward USA. While in Italy near GI resorts, I have to admit to kids that I'm skinny Asian American GI, to save myself some explaining otherwise.
In South America, where the majority are white decedents from the old world. I feel that they draw a line between the local people, and those mixed people. And I think they have the wish that someday somehow someone will take them back to the old world.
Suave Gato
11-30-05, 23:14
Not being black you may want to take my advice with a grain of salt. I do not feel you would fair very well in SA as racism is pretty rampant down there as well. Many women in countries that Spain has f**ked up have left women concerned with their own skin color and many have expressed to me while watching TV that although they find Will/Denzel(fill in the blank) extremely handsome they would never date a black man because of social pressure.
Conversely I personally know beautiful women in Denmark/Iceland/Sweden who only date black men, which is unfortunate for me as I feel like the gay friend.
But in the end it is mostly stereotyping and I am sure that if you have a great personality you will have no problem finding what you are looking for outside of the USA. Have you ever given British Columbia consideration as it is so close?
Alp
DJ FourMoney
12-01-05, 23:12
not being black you may want to take my advice with a grain of salt. i do not feel you would fair very well in sa as racism is pretty rampant down there as well. many women in countries that spain has f**ked up have left women concerned with their own skin color and many have expressed to me while watching tv that although they find will/denzel(fill in the blank) extremely handsome they would never date a black man because of social pressure.
conversely i personally know beautiful women in denmark/iceland/sweden who only date black men, which is unfortunate for me as i feel like the gay friend.
but in the end it is mostly stereotyping and i am sure that if you have a great personality you will have no problem finding what you are looking for outside of the usa. have you ever given british columbia consideration as it is so close?
alp
alpine -
oh man no problem. i'm not one of those brothas that feel like other people can't comment on what they see in the black community, wherever it is.
i think your right and this is why -
the personals sites i frequent are very specific. its very helpful in narrowing down things. in otherwords, the women that put ads up on these sites are looking for one thing and one thing only. out of those ads, most come from america, canada, uk and germany. in fact, the last search i did, i found more ads from sweden, the netherlands, former eastern block countries like romania and czh republic, than ads from south american countries.
i'd say about 3:1...
in fact i can count the ads from brasil, specifically rio, sp and argentina on one hand.
that tells me volumes and echoes your statement.
all of canada is open in my opinion, this just isn't the time to be up there. its way too cold. i'm california boy... i've been up to canada this time of year and i wasn't able to spend alot of "free" time over the 2 days or so i was up there. i did make it into toronto, but just looked around. i did hit the mall (in missuguga sp?) and while the overall talent level isn't as high as say southern california, the ladies i did see where nice anyway.
bc, i have been told is very good, however since were a monolitic race (not) the bad ones have tainted the dating pool up to the point they are kind of jaded now (at least that's what i have heard). so i guess they are a bit more cautious up there, than say 10 years ago. not that i'm looking for one night stands anyway, i don't mind them tho - :d
i'll make it to bc soon.
about brasil, i still have some question marks about it though. it might not be a great source of non-pro talent, but all the providers care about is "green" usually and i'm almost sure they don't have the hangups that aw suffer from. so i'm almost sure i'll have a blast on the provider front, but not so much fun on the non-pro front. sampa guide doesn't think i'll have a problem with non-pros though, so it will be interesting who's right afterall.
if you know some cuties up in those areas you mentioned that are available, give me a holla. honestly i'm looking for peeps to hang out with anyway, it can't be all about the p***y.
i'm still deciding on which to do first, europe or south america. the non-pro front in europe is looking really good, but i still wanted to do some fkk's and even prague and im not sure i want my time monoplized by some cutie. the list is long right now, but i didn't want to email anybody until i had a better idea when i was going and even where. i've already been though talking to women from say germany only to never make it out there and they loose interest.
thanks for your input.
DJ,
Germany is good for a brotha, but you still need to pick your SPots. I was there for the OKtoberfest a few years ago and it wasn't like the females throw themselves at you in public. And yes I'm a tall good looking dude :) I'm told that if I had gone to a hip hop club that very well might have been the case but hiphop aint my thing... Still got my fare share, but you might have to work it a bit depend on the type on scene you like to frequent.
I had more german women hit on me in Mexico ....go figure.
Brazil seems like a good place to try. .. I'd luv someone to recommend a
place for a "colored" GFE for a brotha. White dudes (not hatin') seem to make out better than us in majority "colored" populations. Wonder if there is a colored country a brotha can go and get that same "germany" effect.
WhiskerBisket
12-16-05, 07:43
Kickfan,
Sure there is. I've been reading about GFE all day in the Africa section. I've never been with a non-white woman (I'm your all-around white guy type and have lived in Texas most of my life). Anyway, I'm drooling over the chance of being with an African honey. The best part is that the girls are by and large for FREE. You wine and dine them and get to take them to the hotel for the night. In gratitute the Africa mongers are giving them "Taxi money" but it doesn't seem to be a requirement. There's a pro scene too but I don't get why you'd WANT to pay for something that you could get for free and get a girl with less city mileage to boot. Just doesn't make sense.
But we were talking about LTR anyway... I'm sure same applies.
DJ FourMoney
12-29-05, 11:12
Good Looking Out KnickFan (sorry about the team tho, how about them Clippers?) -
I've heard it from every brotha I know that's been to Europe. Western Europe is generally good for us. I am the "hip-hop" type (see my screen name) so I will be hitting those spots heavy. I've already researched clubs all over Germany and some down in Prague, so I should have no problem finding a place to get my boogie on and since most of the world is roughly a month or so behind on music from the US, I hope to take some beats with me and maybe somebody will let me jump on the wheels for awhile.
From what I have heard and read so far it seems Western Europe and North America are our best bets if you want a large selection. I think it gets really narrow in Central and South America, Eastern Europe (especially Russia) and some Asian countries. I mean seems like sucess stories are way too isolated to be comfortable spending alot of time seeking locals.
I have actually decided on Europe first because of the time of year. Late spring in North America is the coldest time of the year for most of South America and honestly there isn't much of a language barrier in Europe as there is in South America. Seems only if you go to remote areas in Europe you might find people that don't speak English, but generally most people under 35 speak some or fluent English and that appeals to me.
Plus since I won't have alot of time to spend on a trip (about 4 days max) I think its best to be comfortable traveling firstly and honestly SP isn't the tourist area Rio is.
"Brazil seems like a good place to try. .. I'd luv someone to recommend a
place for a "colored" GFE for a brotha. White dudes (not hatin') seem to make out better than us in majority "colored" populations. Wonder if there is a colored country a brotha can go and get that same "germany" effect."
That's because they equate wealth with paleness. The lighter you are the more wealthy you are presumed to be. OTH, 90% of hoes are purely capitalists, and could care less what color your skin is. They know all men are the same; they all want to stick their cocks into some snatch. So P4P shouldn't be a problem. You know in many parts of SA, you could buy a certificate that said you were of euro ancestry and get all the privileges associated with it. Go figure.
Good Looking Out KnickFan (sorry about the team tho, how about them Clippers?) -
I've heard it from every brotha I know that's been to Europe. Western Europe is generally good for us. I am the "hip-hop" type (see my screen name) so I will be hitting those spots heavy. I've already researched clubs all over Germany and some down in Prague, so I should have no problem finding a place to get my boogie on and since most of the world is roughly a month or so behind on music from the US, I hope to take some beats with me and maybe somebody will let me jump on the wheels for awhile.Your impressions of W.Europe ware akin to my own before I went. You may already know the following, but I'll reiterate it for the benefit of others. First: The major hubs of W Europe appear to be very diverse; certainly more so than my own so cal home town. When I first hit Charles de Gaulle I wondered if my plane had been rerouted to Gambia without my knowledge. all I saw were blacks (dressed in traditional african attire) and browns. You will not be a novelty in any place that you are likely to go. The girls there are fat too. Two: Not to burst any brotha's bubble or demean him, but, the women that many of the GIs pull in W.Europe hail from the lower socio-economic classes. If you want white trailer park trash drive a few hours south to w. virgina. soldiers are notorious for screwing anything that moves. I assure you, no hot Italian woman is shacking up with Sgt. Smith from Mobile, Alabama. Good, classy, continental euro women are very class conscious, much more so than AW are. I have had a black passport for abut 70% of my time in Europe--thus I've been exposed to many desirable euro women-- and can't believe the classism that they evince. If you just want to screw ok, but don’t expect anything classy or too pretty.
If you want to bone hot chicks go to Russia, both for *****s and regular relationships--but it ain't cheap. Five years ago I would take a beautiful girl from a trioka for $100. Now an average one costs $200. Cartatenga is great too; I had the best screw of my life there. Prague is ok, but still very diverse and becoming more Westernized by the quarter--with a corresponding increase in prices.
My 2 cents.
Chocha Monger
12-31-05, 07:25
I don't think that anyone should depend too much on skin color when it comes to getting laid. In Latin America your ability to score hot pussy will depend mostly on your ability to talk your way into chicks' panties, money will help too but you will have a hard time communicating that you have it a non-offensive manner if you cannot speak the local lingo. The prime pussy in this region isn't only being gotten by white gringos, the local guys who earn meagre wages are doing just fine and banging a lot of hot smoking pussy. They do this using what they call "labia" which literally means lip in English, and I can assure you that many pretty girls have given up their pussies to some silver-tongued local seducer before any American showed up to offer them some dollars and a visa to the US. Most normal girls will let you stick your blue, purple, pink, black or yellow dick into them if you can convince them that you've fallen madly in love with them. When it comes to the pros and the gold-diggers the only color that matters is the color of your pesos and passport.
I can understand though why African American mongers are concerned about skin color, race plays a part in just about every aspect of American life. Most white American women would be appalled at the thought of fucking a black or "colored" man, so it's normal for these men to be cautious about encountering the same attitudes abroad. However, I don't think that they need to be concerned in most cases.
I must agree though that only the Euro trash women seem to fuck American GIs and tourists. I have never seen a GI of any color bring home a hot European woman with money or a good profession. Most of these women seem to be big-nosed, flat-chested and flat-arsed too. Europe is better than the US for blacks but it certainly is no paradise. Not learning some Spanish or Portugese and passing up Latin America is a huge mistake, one should at least give it a try.
are you an old white gentleman from the south?
“most white american women would be appalled at the thought of fucking a black or "colored" man, so it's normal for these men to be cautious about encountering the same attitudes abroad.”
i must respectfully disagree with your present assessment of race in america; i think it’s quite dated. i’m from agoura hill, ca and boulder, co and don’t think that race plays an integral part in blacks’ lives there. there is quite a bit of interracial dating going on (especially in ca). most women (70%-80%) in my peer/age group date anyone that passes their income, looks, and background test regardless of race. the athletic will smith type profile does very well in so ca-- they are attractive with muscular physiques while simultaneously being non-threatening and atypical. hit viper room on a friday night in la and you’ll see no shortage of hot white chicks with good looking black guys. i went to college in new york and everybody was screwing everybody on campus. some chicks may very well hide their mates from their folks if they think they’ll catch some heat because of them. i think this especially holds true if it’s just a fling and not serious. sometimes people fuck each other and still utter what some may say are “racist” comments: this typical uppity wasp girl from savanna would fuck and suck our (very black) tailback on a regular basis for 4 years; yet, i heard her say that she didn’t want to have black babies because the kid’s hair would be “all fucked up and afroish.”
that being said, a lot of white girls are not racist but they want a man that shares a similar background to them. considering that blacks only make up about 12% of the us population and live more or less in large urban areas, many white gals just don’t live, work, and socialize with blacks on a regular basis. not because they are appalled, to use your words, at the thought of sleeping with a brotha, but because there are none around. even though inner-city la is a car ride away from agoura hills, it’s a totally different world. and if some thuggish guy hits on them while they are at the club they are naturally apprehensive, as this fella takes them out of their comfort zone.
kinda non-sequitur but, one thing i found odd is that ½ white ½ black people in america are considered black, while in europe, europeans will swear up and down that a mixed person is not black. i knew a few desirable (good looking and good pedigree) ee women that have ½ (american) black ½ (western) white boyfriends but are very adamant about saying that they would never have a “black” boyfriend.
“i must agree though that only the euro trash women seem to fuck american gis and tourists.
aside from a few marine security guards and some capts you’re right on, but, i don’t know, i’ve boned tons of hot chicks while backpacking europe in college. there is no better fling than a scandinavian girl on holiday; there is no more boring a date than a scandinavian girl in scandinavia.
Doctor_Skank
12-31-05, 18:11
In most parts of Germany good-looking brothers will do very well for themselves. Less good-looking brothers wont do as well... but thats life. Obviously looking like the stereotyped glamorous American black... aka Usher, Kobe, Pharrel or whomever, with a good body, style and money will go a long way to making them more attractive to the opposite sex. Essentially its the same for UK blacks.
In European cities interracial dating is common and believe it or not, in Europe you will also find white guys dating black women. I've had a couple of black gfs in Germany. Black women in Europe are not as prejudiced against white men as black women in America, with whom white guys usually have little chance to even get a date.
In particular American black guys do well... a lot of girls who wouldnt be interested in Africans are interested in American black guys. A lot of the Africans in Germany even pretend to be Americans... although its usually just a ridiculous farce.
Generally speaking though, most German girls are not interested in African, Arab, Indian or other guys, many are even prejudiced against them. That doesnt mean that black guys aren't going to find their market. Its relatively easy... go to clubs were black music is played. If you have any game at all, you'll have good chances.
GIs in Germany WILL fuck ANYTHING. I have seen decent looking brothers with the most atrocious women... girls no half-way decent German would touch.
Other black guys in Germany did better in my opinion.
A black friend of mine who has since gone back to the states played basketball in Germany and got laid a lot... but he also told me that the majority of girls didnt want anything to do with him and simply ignored him, pretended not to speak English when they really could or rejected his advances coldly. The ones that were interested however made it no secret that they wanted his dick and made it known relatively early. No courtship, no dating... pure sexual relationship. These same girls would never dream of marrying him... they just wanted to fuck him because they thought it was cool. He thought it was pretty damn cool too. :)
What are the best places for Middle Easterners to monger?
I had more german women hit on me in Mexico ....go figure.Some German women find blacks interesting, sexually, just as some whites may find black women interesting. Similar phenomenon can be observed in southern Europe where vast majority is dark haired. Guess if they are crazy about blondes from nothern Europe.
Back to Germany. As black you may fuck some German women, but don't count on a love story, unless the girl is bottom end. As Doctor_skank describes, you are better off being black from the USA than black from Africa, but only due to perceived socioeconomic class. In neither case they would marry you, generally speaking. If you care, try get one to introduce you to her parents as her boyfriend.
What are the best countries for Middle Easterners to monger?
Chocha Monger
01-01-06, 07:19
I'm not doubting that things in California and Colorado might be great for black men. However, I can assure you that in states like North Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia you wouldn't find 70-80% of white women willing to have relations with a black man. If you find my use of the word "appalled" objectionable then you should come to the South and experience true Southern hospitality or at least ask the honest opinions of black males living in these areas. It seems that everyone in the US tries really hard to act as though racism no longer exists here. I wonder how many black and white folks actually spend time with each other outside of work or school in this country?
Anyway, my point was that Latin America is certainly no worst than the US when it comes to inter-racial relations. The best way to find out how you will be received in any particular country is to go there yourself. I never implied that being black is disadvantageous in anyway, I simply pointed out some attitudes that still exist in some parts of the US, the Deep South in particular.
DJ FourMoney
01-02-06, 08:14
Dirk Dee, Doc Shank & Rasta -
Thanks for the input fellas. I didn't think I was making a wrong choice and while my game isn't as strong as 409 on some dirty spots, it is good enough to pull if there's mutual attraction, that's all I require.
G.I's do bang anything that moves, that's fact... Both my Pop's and Stepfather banged overseas and we're talkin late 1950's, early 1960's. My Pops was in the Air Force and my stepfather was in the Army as an MP, both involved in Korea.
Its not hersay, my Pops has been traveling internationally since the early 80's and been to Europe a few times and always is more than ready to share his stories of conquest in the Netherlands and Germany. We're talkin about a man in his 50's when he was over there. He's got game, some of it rubbed off on me... :)
Chocha -
Trust me, I want some chicas but my first weakness has been caucasian women first and formost. If some sexy arse chica can switch my mind up, then I'm all for it. Like I said my main modivations are mostly due to my lack of spanish speaking skillz and tho I live in ever glorious Southern California (Dirk, I live in San Fernando Valley), you would think it's important to know spanish.
I can echo Dirk's comments, Viper Room, The Highlands, Garden of Eden, etc is FULL of all types of people and IR dating is more than acceptable behavior here. You still get all the same problems that everybody gets in dating in America however, so its time to try someplace else that's all.
This perception is mostly based on internet actitivy, phone convos, etc between myself, ladies from Europe and Canada, so I don't feel like I'm making the wrong choice where to visit first.
CBGBConnisur
01-02-06, 17:18
I honestly don't think Germany is a good place for intermixed dating. I'm not sure about German women not liking Arabs, because quite a few women I met there were half Arab/Turkish and German, usually with the father being Turkish/Arabic, it was the most common mixed combination I have met. I think other places are more liberated towards mixed dating than Germany, including Sweden, Holland, and Australia.
Doctor_Skank
01-02-06, 17:33
There are a lot of Turkish-German couples... with 90+% of those being Turkish guy and German girl. The other way around is met with disdain by the other Turkish who will pretty much prevent a girl from dating German or non-Turkish or non-Islamic men. I really hate what religion does to people's minds.
BTW: Turks aren't Arabs.
Still, interracial couples are fairly commonplace and although they may raise some curiousity or even concern among particularly conservative or bigoted Germans, most Germans will accept it without much thought. Attitudes have changed a lot in the last 10 years. It doesn't mean interracial dating is going to always be easy for either party, but it certainly isnt a rarity anymore.
Sure, you will hear German guys complain about dark-skinned foreign guys hitting on their women and sometimes they talk very badly about German women who date dark-skinned men, but that's part of the territory and probably part of the thrill for some of the guys and girls. I doubt you could name one country where interracial dating is 100% accepted... jealousy is part of human nature and it certainly wouldn't be any different the other way around.
As for comparing German attitudes to Dutch, Swedish or Australian ones, I can't make that comparison because I've never spent much time in any of those countries.... I have however seen many, many interracial couples in Holland... black minorities make up a large part of the Dutch population. The Swedish people I have known, both men and women, although it is a limited number, were more overtly rascist than the Germans or Dutch... but like I said my exposure there is limited. Generally speaking, most black guys rave about Scandanavian chicks digging them.... but that could also be a matter of fishbowl statistics... within the atmosphere that these guys look for women, particularly clubs where black music is popular and perceived as sexual, they are going to find a higher percentage of women interested in an adventure with someone exotic. Based on what I've read, if I were black I would definitely want to check out Scandi... :)
CBGBConnisur
01-02-06, 18:14
As far as multiculturalism, the only European country to really succeed with it is the UK. France has a lot of minority groups but then you have the riots. There are riots in the UK as well. There was one in Australia too, Australia for the most part is an immigration friendly country similar to Canada, the beaches in some areas tend to attract fairly rowdy and physical crowds, surfers.
I have spent a considerable amount of time around the world to make a comparison, from my experience Australia is considerably more tolerant than Germany, yes there is racism down under too, but for the most part Australia has absorbed different people quite successfuly. I have sensed a get out of my country mentality in Germany and this applies to Americans like myself as well.
Doctor_Skank
01-02-06, 18:37
There are definitely more cultures and races represented in number in the UK as opposed to Germany, but I am not sure that makes the UK less racist or a better place for interracial dating.
Sorry that you got a bad vibe in Germany vibe sometimes, I am sure that happens... but can happen anywhere.
I am admittedly not really in a position to judge, as I am not black. My interracial dating was the other way around... although I did get some evil looks from Turks and Moroccans when I was out with my Moroccan girlfriend... and a lot of jealous but harmless looks from the Germans. Some of the Moroccan guys would even speak Arabic to her and she would just laugh at them and hang on to me even tighter... drove them fucking nuts... :) Sometimes the headscarfed Turkish women (wrongly assuming my gf was Turkish) would give her some really evil looks, but more liberal Turks didnt seem to care or would even smile. All a question of upbringing.
In any case, IMHO a brother should try Europe if he has the means... whether UK, Germany, Scandi, Holland or whereever... I dont think he'll regret it. Same goes for Oz I am sure. Main thing is to get out there and see whats going on beyond US borders. Same goes for white guys too.
CBGBConnisur
01-02-06, 20:12
In Germany the best sex experiences are found in FKK clubs by far, in fact, the women you meet a good FKKs represent the top 3 percent of women in Germany in terms of looks and sexuality. The majority of these women are from Eastern Europe, local German women are okay but don't hold a candle to the EE and other foreign women you meet in the FKKs. Outside of FKKs, if you cannot speak German it is going to be hard to hook up, the best local women never speak much English. If you're good looking, dressed well, have a lot of money, it won't matter what your race is, because you can overcome the race and cultural barrier.
WhiskerBisket
01-03-06, 10:22
Several posts down this page it was mentioned how much poon can be had by backpacking through Western Europe. It was my understanding that the hook up scene for Americans is all in the clubs. If you don't dance, you got no game. But backpacking brings up a more mainstream image of regular dude on a long vacation and not the trendy club rat type.
What's a guy's best chances outside of the club scene given some modest foreign language skills? No wingmen, no local friends, just on the solo prowl.
Yes I will get flamed for this but so be it.
I read some of the posts by some black people on her and am flummoxed as to the merits of some of the complaints regarding AW. For example, one guy is admittedly broke, drives a jalopy, lives with his mummy, and doesn’t seem to have a serious career (professional or otherwise) and habitually complains about women not wanting to date him. This same brother lives in So Ca—which is full of hot and open-minded women—and bitches that the type of women he has a fetish for, white girls, won’t throw themselves at him. It’s relatively simple: get a good job which generates good income, get a late model BMW, Benz, or SUV (heck even a nice Honda will do), move out of your mommy’s house, and it is guaranteed your dating options will dramatically increase. Serious women want serious guys.
I love dating and bedding beautiful women, so, I do have to do to afford them-- even if it means working in the smelliest assholes of the world.
As much as you decry the American woman as a gold digger, she is just seeking stability—emotional, societal, and financial. If she marries or gets knocked up by a man (especially interracially) and has kids, her life will never be the same; her dating/marriage options will substantially decrease. If she is a realistic woman, she knows that her marriage/relationship will likely terminate in the future, thus, it makes sound economic sense to insure that she acquires a mate that can provide for her throughout her “experience” —which includes the time after the split. Unlike Europeans, many Americans find the concept of abortion repulsive and will bear a child even if they feel the father is a bum.
As this thread concern LTRs and not P$P:
Regarding white girls and black guys. Most, but by NO MEANS ALL white women who seek out black men are low class trash. This especially holds true for the white girls who join interracial dating sites and frequent “black” clubs in Europe or America. That’s why I always roll my eyes when I hear some black guy jive about, “man, when I was at da club in Germany all them hoes was on my nutz. Over there they love brothas….” Are black men so desperate that they are willingly seek out the rubbish and cast aways of another group? I’d be ashamed to be a good looking black and to be seen with a fat low class white. I am not saying that everyone needs to date a member of a royal family, but there are SOME standards that must be observed.
While I am at it: What the fuck is up with grown ass black men dressing like Master P? Baggy pants, crooked ball caps, and jerseys look cute on a toddler but down right silly on adults.
DJ FourMoney
01-04-06, 12:30
Not a bottom feeder, undesirable or ugly.
I've known this girl for almost 10 years and she's from Germany, speaks fluent english and has an interracial son.
If your really think Brothas can only pull undesirables or bottom-feeders, your sadly mistaken -
She's ok, better than the P4P I had recently.
Still, not too many decent white chicks wear dollar sign necklaces around their neck. If she's over 22 and wears jewelry like this she is a lower class woman. Moreover, the reason why she likes black guys is because she has no other choice: she got knocked up by a brotha when she was young and now no white guy wants her. What's her profession?
Unfortunately, the more I see of this world the more opposed to interracial relationships I am. But to each his own, as long as no offspring are involved.
CBGBConnisur
01-04-06, 22:27
Dirk, didn't you say you were offered a job as a pimp in E Europe?? That's a lot of class.
Dirk, didn't you say you were offered a job as a pimp in E Europe?? That's a lot of class.I was also approached by a classmate to beat someone up about 7 years ago and declined. This does not make me a hitman.
I must elucidate the distinction between being a pimp and being approached to act as a chaperone/financier on a hooking spree by pretty attorney who worked with me in a professional setting. But the approach in and itself combined with my ever so brief consideration is evidence of something awry, if it's a lack of class I honestly don't know. IMHO, I think the girl knew my contract was wrapping up, thought I was a nice/foolish/gullible guy, and figured I could provide both the means and the muscle for the trip. I obviously declined, and was restaffed on another project a few hundred miles away. I never seriously considered doing it. Her approach was serious while my consideration was phantasmic.
Member #1005
01-05-06, 00:11
She's ok, better than the P4P I had recently.
Still, not too many decent white chicks wear dollar sign necklaces around their neck. If she's over 22 and wears jewelry like this she is a lower class woman. Moreover, the reason why she likes black guys is because she has no other choice: she got knocked up by a brotha when she was young and now no white guy wants her. What's her profession?
Unfortunately, the more I see of this world the more opposed to interracial relationships I am. But to each his own, as long as no offspring are involved.
Wow, with your analysis from one single photo I take it you must be anthropologist?
With your skills one wonders what you are doing here writing your pathetic views on the forum, you should be commanding millions of dollars a time as a consultant to the world’s intelligence services such as the CIA, MI6, Mossad, DGSE??
She's ok, better than the P4P I had recently.
Still, not too many decent white chicks wear dollar sign necklaces around their neck. If she's over 22 and wears jewelry like this she is a lower class woman. Moreover, the reason why she likes black guys is because she has no other choice: she got knocked up by a brotha when she was young and now no white guy wants her. What's her profession?
Unfortunately, the more I see of this world the more opposed to interracial relationships I am. But to each his own, as long as no offspring are involved.Jealousy ain't becoming.
Wow, with your analysis from one single photo I take it you must be anthropologist?
With your skills one wonders what you are doing here writing your pathetic views on the forum, you should be commanding millions of dollars a time as a consultant to the world’s intelligence services such as the CIA, MI6, Mossad, DGSE??Nope, I am a (contract) employee for a consulting firm. my sole class in cultural anthro would not induce me to post the aforementioned; however, my tenure, albeit brief, as an 1811 did. my comments are not as flipant as you suggest.
I have no desire to be a party to ad hominem exchanges. People can say what they wish and claim whatever they want online. I just wrote what I've observed and felt--from a brotha's perpective of working abroad for the better part of my post college years, occasionly even holding a diplmatic passport while at it.
Happy whoring gents.
CBGBConnisur
01-06-06, 18:03
Europeans have a more rigid social class structure than Americans, a woman can appear "classy" but she might be a regular working class person. I have met a lot of fashionable and attractive European women, and most of them are normal middle class types. I spent some time over there, lived in an apartment, some of my female neighbors dressed like they walked off of 5th Avenue, but they were just regular people in terms of their socioeconomic status. The good thing about Europe is that you meet a lot of beautiful "regular" women, with modest aspirations and don't expect too much out of someone.
James D 2004
01-06-06, 22:27
Several posts down this page it was mentioned how much poon can be had by backpacking through Western Europe. It was my understanding that the hook up scene for Americans is all in the clubs. If you don't dance, you got no game. But backpacking brings up a more mainstream image of regular dude on a long vacation and not the trendy club rat type.
What's a guy's best chances outside of the club scene given some modest foreign language skills? No wingmen, no local friends, just on the solo prowl.
The best places are youth hostels. Where else do you live when you back pack? I have met a 30 something German still doing it. It feels a bit of a predictor to me but the other German student girls didn't seem to feel that way.
The usual nightlife is meeting people and group talk in the common halls after dinner. Hostels are often far from city centers and back packers are very hard working in the day and need resting at night. Most are fellow Europeans so Americans and non-European get more attentions, for your stories if not you. Solo's are viewed as more challenging or romantic or whatever you want to describe. Group numbers seldom match. If one girl have an eye on you, you may be talking with all her friends too. But you can't score in the hostel as the sex are separated. But you can change your itinerary (because theirs are better!), and suggest to live better sometimes at hotels.
A different one is budget guided back packing tour. The worse or best had been sleeping and eating on a double decker bus for a few weeks. You can bang in the bus too and the others will understand. Also you have some hotels nights away from the bus. You can check the details of the other passengers before you join the tours. Schedule is tight so your group is all you meet. But isn't it hard to be sex free for a few weeks?
And don't forget the back packing mecca at the October Beer Fest in Germany. In no way can you not score.
Nope, I am a (contract) employee for a consulting firm. my sole class in cultural anthro would not induce me to post the aforementioned; however, my tenure, albeit brief, as an 1811 did. my comments are not as flipant as you suggest.
I have no desire to be a party to ad hominem exchanges. People can say what they wish and claim whatever they want online. I just wrote what I've observed and felt--from a brotha's perpective of working abroad for the better part of my post college years, occasionly even holding a diplmatic passport while at it.
Happy whoring gents.
In light of the fact that Lou Rawls just checked out, might we have some peace between Juniour and Dirkdingy? You know, Lou liked his white pussy too! :D
Doctor_Skank
01-07-06, 02:12
I did some backpacking/hosteling in the 90's, so my info isnt really up to date, but I doubt things have changed too much and I dont recall my trips being characterized by wild sexual adventures... Like James said, most hostels are separate sex and although they often had a bar that was open until midnight, after that you were on your own. Many hostels also have a 2am curfew, so a lot of backpackers are in early. He's also right about girls in groups... my best ops were often ruined by girls not being able to leave her friends.
The best way to meet foreign pussy is to go on a student exchange program, you'll get more pussy than you'll be able to handle. If thats not an option, there is an even better one...
...take a European holiday, euro-style.
Go to any Mediterranean beach between late May and early September and you'll find more pussy than you can dream of, from everywhere around Europe.
Of course you'll be competing with the local Spanish, Italian, Greek or Turkish matadors depending on the beach, plus all the male partygoers, but it still is an excellent market, wild and fun... and beautiful beaches too...
Some favorites:
Mallorca: Germans, Dutch, English galore on this Spanish island. Nearly every young person going there is looking to get laid.
Rimini: Not as popular as it once was, this Italian seatown is still is a party mecca.
Antalya: Turkish beach full of top-quality discos and top-quality babes from Germany, EE, Scandi and other places that breed loose blonde women.
Rhodos: Beautiful Greek island where Europeans go for sex and sun.
Sun beach and Gold beach: These Bulgarian coastal beaches are full of party-goers looking for a cheap holiday. I had a blast there and banged a Bulgarian virgin celebrating her high school graduation. Very memorable... :)
There are dozens of other great locations and they are cheap. You can get a week in one of these places with a 3 star hotel and airfare from a European hub like Frankfurt or London for about $500-600.
An expensive place but one of the most beautiful places I've ever been is Amalfi on the Italian coast. Don't be surprised if you meet a celebrity or two here. Doesn't have to be overly expensive if your smart.
James D 2004
01-07-06, 02:54
DS, I would say those beaches are really wild sexual adventures rather than backpacking. Mega topless spring breaks, and the only place to go at night is the clubs (discos). If you do well in MTV style spring breaks, that's for you, with a lot more people, more crowded, more liberal, topless. A good beach would be full of young topless girls shoulder to shoulder, hard to find a place to sit down. I would advise a hunting pack.
Tommygunns
01-07-06, 03:20
Nope, I am a (contract) employee for a consulting firm. my sole class in cultural anthro would not induce me to post the aforementioned; however, my tenure, albeit brief, as an 1811 did. my comments are not as flipant as you suggest.
I have no desire to be a party to ad hominem exchanges. People can say what they wish and claim whatever they want online. I just wrote what I've observed and felt--from a brotha's perpective of working abroad for the better part of my post college years, occasionly even holding a diplmatic passport while at it.
Happy whoring gents.What is an 1811? Consultants can get diplomatic passports? I am not doubting you, I am just curious because you can make a lot of money importing cars with those things.
DJ FourMoney
01-07-06, 10:07
I always felt clubbin alone made you look either desperate or foolish to most women, no matter where you are. But I would say, your chances of hooking up solo any place but America would be pretty good.
That is one reason I'm trying to get to know some folks before going, especially women. The only downside to that is that she might want to spend all your free time with you. Not much chance for mongering, unless she works during the day or at night, when you can slip away unnoticed (until you bang it good and the cell starts to blow up...)
I'm still planning it all out and I'll have a much better idea of what's going on in a month or so.
My suggestion is if your not going for more than a week, get to know some local talent online! If nothing else you might be able to plant a LTR seed in Europe and still enjoy some mongering. All the more reason to visit again and sooner than expected if both turnout well.
CBGBConnisur
01-08-06, 02:24
By far the most amazing sex experience is in Brazil, in Rio, there is a surprising variety of chicas. Those European locales that Doc mentioned are definitely good bets for someone looking to get laid. Foreign exchange programs are a great way to meet potential pussy, especially if your studying in a female dominated program, like nursing.
Many times I;ve heard that Argentina was a girls nest. Beauties everywhere. Maybe of one you could tell me more about it?
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I did some backpacking/hosteling in the 90's, so my info isnt really up to date, but I doubt things have changed too much and I dont recall my trips being characterized by wild sexual adventures... Like James said, most hostels are separate sex and although they often had a bar that was open until midnight, after that you were on your own. Many hostels also have a 2am curfew, so a lot of backpackers are in early. He's also right about girls in groups... my best ops were often ruined by girls not being able to leave her friends.
The best way to meet foreign pussy is to go on a student exchange program, you'll get more pussy than you'll be able to handle. If thats not an option, there is an even better one: Take a European holiday, euro-style.
Go to any Mediterranean beach between late May and early September and you'll find more pussy than you can dream of, from everywhere around Europe.
Of course you'll be competing with the local Spanish, Italian, Greek or Turkish matadors depending on the beach, plus all the male partygoers, but it still is an excellent market, wild and fun... and beautiful beaches too.
Some favorites:
Mallorca: Germans, Dutch, English galore on this Spanish island. Nearly every young person going there is looking to get laid.
Rimini: Not as popular as it once was, this Italian seatown is still is a party mecca.
Antalya: Turkish beach full of top-quality discos and top-quality babes from Germany, EE, Scandi and other places that breed loose blonde women.
Rhodos: Beautiful Greek island where Europeans go for sex and sun.
Sun beach and Gold beach: These Bulgarian coastal beaches are full of party-goers looking for a cheap holiday. I had a blast there and banged a Bulgarian virgin celebrating her high school graduation. Very memorable... :)
There are dozens of other great locations and they are cheap. You can get a week in one of these places with a 3 star hotel and airfare from a European hub like Frankfurt or London for about $500-600.
An expensive place but one of the most beautiful places I've ever been is Amalfi on the Italian coast. Don't be surprised if you meet a celebrity or two here. Doesn't have to be overly expensive if your smart.
Sounds like a plan but would this sort of venture be age prohibitive? I'm 35 , how would that float?
Hi all,
I am a french guy based on Lisboa, and I'm planning a trip to Lima. This is a very expensive move for me and want to be sure that it s the right place.
I ve read almost everywhere on thoses forums that the town is great for food, girls, parties, LTR, STR and that the city is quiet secure.
But, I met this dude in a bar in Lisboa, who has been there and told me that the women were ugly, fat and short, and the town pretty dangerous.
So who should I trust? You or this drunken guy?
Happy new year to all
CBGBConnisur
01-10-06, 16:51
Age could be an issue, most of the women who party in those Mediteranean locales tend to be in their 20's. You never know women unlike men seem to value maturity. I am in my mid 30's and have dated women in their 20's.
Suave Gato
01-10-06, 17:04
It used to be a big plus if you were American, but in most of the world today that is no longer a factor (with the exception of Visa Hunters). Still if you are ugly or fat it may be your only option.
Personality is and always has been the way to attract quality women. That combined with language skills is the most potent combination. If you are not bilingual you will most likely loose out to a European most times. If you are not bilingual learn Spanish as it presents the most opportunities.
Age, In the states if you do not have money then being under 35 is best.
However most mongers will tell you that in most third world countries(specifically LA countries) 40-55 is the most desireable age for a male.
Dress- While dressing like a backpacker can work for you in the countryside, Most major city women prefer the metro sexual look. Through out the world a women will notice your shoes first.
Dance- Learn how to dance to the popular music of your target country. Somebody mentioned Argentina (where Tango is king), For most of us Tango is to difficult but a little Salsa or Merengue is more useful. Again bieng in your 50's and having a command of disco will go along way. The other reason for dancing is it gives you a edge over the other "gringo's" and shows the young 20 year old, you have stamina. Salsa or Merengue lets her know how you are in the sack.
Background-If you are a big city guy, stay in the big cities. Country bumpkins should stay in the smaller satellite towns.
Bars- Gringo bars are fine for drinking and meeting the local *****s, but for LTR always go where the locals go. Your odds increase expotentially when you are the only non local in the place. This combined with the aforementioned factors will guarantee you leaving with either STR or LTR.
Women- In any third world city you will find bars/clubs frequented by the big money crowd. While you will find the women to be incredible looking, they are basically unapproachable if you do not have a European or American pedigree.
Unfortunatley most countries have only two classes. This leaves you with the poor class. However this is where you will find all the gems. You will see these girls without makeup/fancy clothes or surgically enhanced faces and bodies. The girl you are looking for is the one who can put herself together well under these circumstances.
Money- In the poorer countries it is only important to have food and shelter. Throwing around money is considered foolish and distasteful. Much more important is to have a element of class.
Culture- Become familiar with the culture and history of your intended country. Learn about its food/wine and important exports.
Example: After travelling for many years I found LA countries,specifically SA countries provided the most opportunities for me. I happen to be in my fifties and have learned that I am currently in Vogue. By learning Spanish the whole continent with the exception of Brazil has opened up to me. Although I have dated many beautiful Colombian's, I have a preference for the women of Northern Peru. While Argentina is a beautiful country, I find the women of BA too European (in their minds). Now I travel almost exclusivly to Lima as it has the highest concentration of women 18-35 then any other LA city. As they have such a rich culture, it is very easy to have a conversation and impress them with your local knowledge. It is the small things like knowing to order a Pilsen in Lima and a Cusquena in Cuzco. When in a restaurant with your intended order a dish that her region is famous for. People in SA are generally very nationalistic and I dare say regionalistic. By understanding a countries culture and tastes, you can target your efforts more effectively and increase your sucess rate.
Good Luck
Doctor_Skank
01-10-06, 17:40
knickfan:
35 is ok. i am 35 myself. it depends of course on the girl. europeans consider 35 to be young (they are right) and you are still allowed to party at that age. your target female will likely be between 23-30... most younger european girls will date older men without hesitation, but they dont like the age difference to be much more than 5-7 years.
eastern european women are more flexible on age. 10+ age difference isn't a problem.
most younger western or northern euro girls between 18-22 are going to prefer younger guys under 25... thats just a sad fact. :) anything is possible of course, but the younger girls are often in groups of their peers and separating them from their horde, especially with a noticeable age difference, it always that easy.
that said, the 23-30 year old group can look really great and are quite uninhibited.
another factor is education. europeans usually finish their education, either university or vocational, at about 22-25. before graduation they are often clique-ish and stick to their own age group. after graduation they are more independent and free to hang out with (or fuck) whom they choose. the girls are often known to go wild on these holidays. they wait for these 2-3 weeks in the summer all year and when they are in mallorca, fuertaventura, marmaris or wherever they try to have enough fun to keep them satisified through the cold and gray northern european winter.
the euro beaches really are a great deal in general, especially if you can go with a buddy or two. going alone, the lone wolf, can be a tough venture... most people going on these holidays go in groups of various size. going with a wingman will make your time more enjoyable.
one cool thing about these holidays, you'll probably be the only american. i have yet to meet a single countrymen on one of these holidays.
You're a silly, ignorant, dumb-ass peckawood
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Your posts regarding African American men and white European women lead me to believe that you're a retarded, mosquito-dick cwacka who can't get no punani.
RastamanSorry you feel that way. Your assumptions about my ethnicity are erroneous. It is often wise to read through a few of the preceeding posts before commmenting.
Tommyguns: An 1811 is a federal agent.. DEA, DSS, ATF, FBI, Secret Service, DOE Invetigators, etc. Yes, diplomatic passports are given to non-state/direct u.s. govt employees. State contracts out many of its functions and status is granted to thoose who perform policy/tech/admin/support roles. They are quite conrtolled and are only valid for six months at a time. The easiest way to get them is to work for a Blackwater or a Dyncorp as a security consultant--read merc. Say, you are doing convoy escort or psd and need to gun someone down in the streets, you'll need immunity in order to effectively carry out your duties. HTH
DJ FourMoney
01-11-06, 09:43
DJ FourMoney,
She looks exactly like Charlize Theron. Good pull bruh!
Rastaman
Man, I met her back in like '95 or something. She still looks like that...
She doesn't sound like Charlize however, she sounds more like some hoodrat from the ghetto. She sounds worst than some rapper do, but its funny. You would never have known she was from Bonn from the way she talks.
We had a chance to meet when she came out to Seattle for a friend's wedding. We chicked for awhile but it kinda fizzled out when I wasn't in the position I am now, of being able to afford to travel. As they say, If's and But's, etc, etc, but I'd prolly be married to her...
I'll be sorely disapointed if I can't pull somebody on the same level looks-wise. There should be no reason to bang a fat or ugly chick in Europe, paid for or not.
I just came back from jamaica and am sad to say that your chances of getting a jamaican honey are very slim(too much misunderstanding between black americans/jamaicans) it's too bad.
However I was into the german women with nice sloppy asses and they wouldn't even look at me.I would have loved to slide......We all have places that are better suited for our intrests.I get play from the dark latin women due to racism in latin countries which is just what I need! Black guys get all that fine blond pussy.It all works .
Seriously in jamaica if your white chances are very slim of getting laid by another white female tourist. It's like reverse racism but by your own kind...so funny how things change from country to country too bad not everbody has the opportunity to experience it.
Bless!
Doctor_Skank
01-11-06, 21:30
German women who go to Jamaica on holiday alone or "with the girls" are stigmatized the exact same way German guys who go to Thailand alone or "with the boys" are. Sex tourists. And yes, they are looked down upon... not that it really bothers them.
Needless to say Jamaica isnt very high on my list of places to visit... not that I fear competition, but it sounds like the deck is stacked there. :)
CBGBConnisur
01-15-06, 04:31
German women with Jamaican guys is more of an STR topic. I went to Jamaica once and the German women hooking up with the local guys were not attractive.
An Australian friend of mine told me a lot of German women go to Turkey and Greece to hook up with the guys over there, he often described most of these men as lowly waiters, bus drivers, janitors, etc. As far as mixed dating I am not against it at all, some of the best looking women in the world are of mixed racial origins. Jessica Alba is half Mexican, half Danish she is smoking hot.
Hey CBGBConnisur,
What are some good Aussie places for non-pro and pro action for first comers?
Member #1005
01-15-06, 17:28
German women with Jamaican guys is more of an STR topic. I went to Jamaica once and the German women hooking up with the local guys were not attractive.
CBGBConnisur
As someone who was has actually worked in Germany five years ago, I am not sure on what and where you are basing your information but to be honest from my experience on the European woman who travel to Jamaica for the ”rent-a-dread” as they are locally known.
What I find surprising, as I expect do many of the others who catch these flights is that these women won’t even talk to you let alone look you in the eye during the trip. Yet upon arrival a few days later you will see these with these local guys all over them and as you know Jamaican guys are not shy in coming forward with what they did or didn’t do with them but most are in it for the money. A black European guy would struggle with to get any action from these girls, let alone an American but its not impossible.
I have many times questioned why these girls do it, because they are certainly not ugly nor old but I guess it must be a thing about control to be in a position to control a guy, something that doesn’t happen back home.
Just like the many guys who visit Thailand or the Philippines many of these women end up sending these guys a monthly allowance, whilst a few of them actually send air tickets. This subject has been widely documented on a couple of shows here in the UK.
CBGBConnisur
01-15-06, 20:45
I travel to Germany about twice a year, I lived there for nearly a whole year myself, been there a dozen times. As far as I know about German women in mixed relationships. The most common biracial couple is a Turkish male and German woman, I dated a woman who was a child of this type of relationship. A lot of Turks like to imitate African American youth so they use this to get the women.
From my experience it's a very common occurance for white women from Canada, USA, Germany, England, etc to go to Jamaica and other Carribbean Islands looking for sex. Mainly due to societal pressures in their own home countries, about blackmen and white women dating, these women go to the islands to seek out their sexual thrills. I've seen all kinds ugly, good looking, young and old, model look alikes and fugly women chasing after these Island guys. A few years ago while I was out on the beach and an older German lady tried to pick up and I told her I was not interested.
CBGBConnisur
As someone who was has actually worked in Germany five years ago, I am not sure on what and where you are basing your information but to be honest from my experience on the European woman who travel to Jamaica for the ”rent-a-dread” as they are locally known.
What I find surprising, as I expect do many of the others who catch these flights is that these women won’t even talk to you let alone look you in the eye during the trip. Yet upon arrival a few days later you will see these with these local guys all over them and as you know Jamaican guys are not shy in coming forward with what they did or didn’t do with them but most are in it for the money. A black European guy would struggle with to get any action from these girls, let alone an American but its not impossible.
I have many times questioned why these girls do it, because they are certainly not ugly nor old but I guess it must be a thing about control to be in a position to control a guy, something that doesn’t happen back home.
Just like the many guys who visit Thailand or the Philippines many of these women end up sending these guys a monthly allowance, whilst a few of them actually send air tickets. This subject has been widely documented on a couple of shows here in the UK.
CBGBConnisur
01-19-06, 03:17
White women and black men aren't a taboo in Western Europe, Canada, and Australia, as well as certain parts of the US. Most of the biracial couples I have seen in Europe, and there a lot of them, in the UK, Holland, and in France usually have a black male and white female. In Germany, its predominantly Turkish dudes and German women. Looking back, the half Turkish and half German woman I met looked just like Eva Longoria but with better eyes and a prettier face. There are some bars in Sydney where women go specifically to hook up with a black guy. A friend of mine who is African American came over for a couple of weeks and some women would stop him in the street to get a photo, he got their attention without even saying a word.
I was in Riga with a friend of mine who is black. He is certainly no Usher or other black guy with a marvellous body, on the contrary he is quite obese, but I must admit that I have seldom seen such popularity with the girls. I even got somewhat pissed off myself as there was hardly any girl interested in me.
I guess blacks are very exotic there as during the week we were there we saw only one more black guy.
We are going to Nigeria in 2 months together as well and then...
CBGBConnisur
02-15-06, 19:38
Some Eastern European women are fond of black men and others are not. Latvians, Hungarians, and Bulgarians tend to be more open. Russian, Czechs, and Ukranians seem to be more xenophobic.
DJ FourMoney
03-11-06, 11:40
Some Eastern European women are fond of black men and others are not. Latvians, Hungarians, and Bulgarians tend to be more open. Russian, Czechs, and Ukranians seem to be more xenophobic.
Hmmm -
I agree, its not unusual for a Hungarian woman to be married to American Black Man, in fact if I could remember who it was, its happen several times before, even before the current urban culture that's spreading around the planet.
I have no idea about Latvians or Bulgarians really but I have found a few personal ads from women in those areas on Interracial Dating sites. Hardly any Russians or Ukranians, but a few Czechs are on a site or two as well.
I said it once and I'll say it again, if I can't enjoy myself in Europe then something is wrong with me.
DJ FourMoney
03-13-06, 06:41
I beg to differ about Czech ladiez....they are most definitely "fond" of Black men.
Silvia Saint comes to mind...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Saint
The fact she dated Well-Known African-American (boy I hate saying that) Porn Star Mr Marcus is WELL documented, especially in the porn capitial of the known universe here in Los Angeles.
Rumor has it Black American GI's have had better rates of sucess here than even in Germany!
I'll have to continue my research...
I must add some confused member of this forum took this post the wrong way I think....
I know Mr Marcus personally, but never saw him with Sylvia...
Seems this poster thinks I wasn't in support of Sylvia's and Marcus's relationship. Shhhh I beg to differ, it gives me even more confidence I can go into Prague and PULL and I do mean PULL hard.
I got this comical PM a min ago...
Thank God she realised she was making a mistake and got rid of that. Well I know the Sweedes and Dainish women and finland women like them.. I know in General Russian women will have Nothing to do with them. Thank Christ for that. Most Russian prostitutes wont fuck them. They are told by their pimps that its ok if you dont want to fuck one of them. But everything else you must. ha ha ha I dont know I guess I was raised that color folk should stick to their own this myth that they are hung, the truth is the Arabs in general are the ones that are hung.. I must admitt the color girls usually have better looking bodies. But nothing beats the Rusian women in looks. Yes there are a few Russian women that crave them (God only knows why??) But they do DARE walk down the street with one or take it home to meet Mom or Dad.. thank Christ theres still a country that has some respect (nationalism ) and pride in their own Race. To be honest theirs a lot of skin heads in Russia especially in Saint Pete.. You see I live in Canada and what really picks my ass is all them black boys think the white women want them Yes theres always some white trash that has NO respect for them selves. But in General because they are Black they think they are special. ha ha ha thank Christ every morning I wake up and the first thing I say looking in the mirror thank God I am not black
Dayum homie Im glad your not black either...
DJ FourMoney
03-13-06, 10:08
Pussy is an equal opportunity commodity, right?
I have noticed a undercurrent of racism around these forums which is bound to happen since the internet is such a informal thing, added to the fact mongering is somewhat shameful behavior.
Not too long ago, black men were hung for even whistling at a white women in the deep south. It wasn't too long ago a black father was tied up to a back of a pickup truck in rual Texas and was drug several miles, to his death.
That tells me racism is alive and well in the world, on the internet and we can't get away from it.
Most of this has come up I notice in the Brazilan forums, as large numbers of American and Canadian Black men come down to enjoy the GDP scene in Rio. When Pluto made his very BROAD BASED comments about the fact that more Rap/Hip-Hop Music is being played at prominate GDP pickup spot, better known as Help. Also that more and more Black men are showing up in Rio to enjoy the same things that it seems some white males have claimed as theirs.
I call that playing in the White Man's Sand Box again. Now that Black Americans in general have "tainted" female populations the world over and added that many more "mixed" children to this mixed up world we live in, they feel threatend their "fun pardise" is about be ruined by the thump of The Game and wearing of Sports Jeresys and speak of Ebonics.
Message to those trippin on Black Folks playing the P4P game mostly with Brasilan, European and South American punani -
Get Ova Yourselfs, you don't own the market on pussy!
That includes LTR's as well with women from all over the world. You don't own the market on the non-pros either and I resent the fact you would even consider it your right that we should stick to our "own kind" and our side of the street. Them days are ova, son....
I just had to get that off my chest, now back to your regular programing...
Rubber Nursey
03-13-06, 18:35
I haven't been online for a while, so please excuse me for commenting on a post made so long ago, but I just had to say something. In a post made on 1-3-06, Dirkdingy made a comment that white women who like black men are 'trash'.
Firstly...that is, quite obviously, a really racist thing to suggest - (I guess black men take on these skanky slags because they can't pull anything better? Is that what you're saying? Or do you mean that black people are so far down on the food chain that any white woman who would 'lower herself' enough to have sex with one, must have reached a point of complete and utter desperation??)
and secondly...it's absolutely ridiculous!! In my opinion, having a preference for a certain race (or physical appearance) says absolutely NOTHING about our character or social status or anything else for that matter. It's just what turns us on! How is a white woman being attracted to a black man any different to, say, a white man being attracted to an Asian woman? Or an Asian man being attracted to an Arab woman? Or a Latin woman being attracted to a white man???
I've said many times over the years that I have always had a thing for black men. Well, actually, NEGRO men - because OUR black men (Australian Aboriginals) just don't do it for me. And that's certainly not because of any failing on the Aboriginals' part. I would say it's because I grew up with Aboriginal boys around me, just as I grew up with white boys around me, and Negro guys - whether they be from America or the UK or Africa - are, for that reason I guess, 'exotic'. I love the way they move. I love their muscular bodies and their full lips and their big, brown eyes and ohhhhh god I love the way they move. (Oops...did I say that one already?) They are just so very different to the men that I come in contact with in my day to day life. I don't think it's any different to a white boy living among tall, thickset Western women, lusting after tiny Asian women. Or a Swedish guy in a sea of Nordic blondes, hankering for some Brown Sugar. Sometimes we just want something different to what we're used to.
Anyway, Dirkdingy, I really loved the first half of your post. It was brilliant. And I'm sorry about this rant, but it's late at night and I'm grumpy and I just had to put in my two cents. Flame at will.
I have this argument with a friend of mine who is an english female and loves dark men(jamaicans are her favorite).The situation is she gets more respect from those guys than from her white male counterparts.I guess she would be looked at as white trash in her world and opportunity in another.She also lets you put it in her ass on the first date and sells herself sexually by admiting she loves to suck dick.I see it as pretty eager to get some action which darker guys would go for...we are looked at as more horny and mischevious than the average boring anglo looking guy(not that all are) I get mistaken for latin,italian etc so I get those type of women that flirt with me.The really prime anglo women keep more of a distance from me.I still find it odd that my friend will not admit she likes "dark dick" and calls me predjudice for saying it.We no longer are friends because she annoys the shit out of me and that was a big reason why.
I feel if black guys have their thing going on good for them and I encourage their progress.Alot of black guys are smooth with woman and treat them only the way a black guy can.I'm all for interacial sex that turns me on more than anything. My intrest is in latin arab and hindu women who are darker than me.I'm sure some of those guys aren't into that fact but screw em.
i haven't been online for a while, so please excuse me for commenting on a post made so long ago, but i just had to say something. in a post made on 1-3-06, dirkdingy made a comment that white women who like black men are 'trash'.
firstly...that is, quite obviously, a really racist thing to suggest - (i guess black men take on these skanky slags because they can't pull anything better? is that what you're saying? or do you mean that black people are so far down on the food chain that any white woman who would 'lower herself' enough to have sex with one, must have reached a point of complete and utter desperation??)
and secondly...it's absolutely ridiculous!! in my opinion, having a preference for a certain race (or physical appearance) says absolutely nothing about our character or social status or anything else for that matter. it's just what turns us on! how is a white woman being attracted to a black man any different to, say, a white man being attracted to an asian woman? or an asian man being attracted to an arab woman? or a latin woman being attracted to a white man???
i've said many times over the years that i have always had a thing for black men. well, actually, negro men - because our black men (australian aboriginals) just don't do it for me. and that's certainly not because of any failing on the aboriginals' part. i would say it's because i grew up with aboriginal boys around me, just as i grew up with white boys around me, and negro guys - whether they be from america or the uk or africa - are, for that reason i guess, 'exotic'. i love the way they move. i love their muscular bodies and their full lips and their big, brown eyes and ohhhhh god i love the way they move. (oops...did i say that one already?) they are just so very different to the men that i come in contact with in my day to day life. i don't think it's any different to a white boy living among tall, thickset western women, lusting after tiny asian women. or a swedish guy in a sea of nordic blondes, hankering for some brown sugar. sometimes we just want something different to what we're used to.
anyway, dirkdingy, i really loved the first half of your post. it was brilliant. and i'm sorry about this rant, but it's late at night and i'm grumpy and i just had to put in my two cents. flame at will.
no offense mam, but, aren't you a hore? one would be hard-pressed to disprove my previous comments by the example you proffer: i am a hoe who likes to fuck "negroes" thus white women who date blacks are not trashy. au contraire ma souer, you actually buttress the point that you were trying to refute.
note that there are certainly exceptions to this rule. in the places where i grew up (west la, seattle area, and boulder) interracial dating is essentially a non-issue among most of the population at large. moreover, it's not necessarily the girls themselves that are averse to interracial dating in places like e.europe--as women are overwhelmingly attracted to exotic, interesting, and non-threatening men--but rather the societal flak that they will inevitably encounter in a black/white relationship. for instance, in most parts of the fsu, once a girl is seen with a black guy her reputation is in tatters and very few self respecting local guys will have anything to do with her.
i'm not saying that if some black gi hits planters in bucharest, circus in moscow, club pasja in krakow, velvet in budapest, or radost f/x on thursday in prague that he can't take home some student or other loose woman that evening. indeed, many fsu girls often want to "try" a black guy for the evening. these women will not be prime pickings but some of them may be cute enough. in some places, like in macedonia, the black defense contractors and civ pol guys there (with their 80k-120k salaries) often pay the flats, car notes, and tuitions of the women there so you can find some moderately hot poor women who will say "fuck it" and date a man of means regardless of what their peers say; most of these women plan to get the hell out of their countries anyway.
some of the embassy personnel, the diplomats and dss guys, do very well with the local women regardless of their color. i know a black fso in croatia who married the former miss croatia.
there are also some women in the world--maybe 20%--who don't see color and who are not particularly interested in what others think about them. these people are much braver and more comfortable in their own skin than i am.
for instance, my current girlfriend, is totally oblivious to ethnicity, and genuinely asked me a few days ago why i don't hold her hand and embrace her in public. she's also a doctor by training--science and techie folks are normally more open-minded than others are--and somewhat naive for a 28 year old ruskie over the hill model who spent three years in paris, new york, and london.
anecdotal evidence aside, many white women in certain regions of the world are taking a big risk in dating a visible minority. moreover, many white women who date visible minorities in some parts of the usa and germany hail from the lower socio-economic strata. this is a fact.
as sad or as hypocritical as this may seem, if an e. european women tells me that she has had a black boyfriend before i terminate the date as quickly as possible.
i have never been to australia and (can't fathom any reason to journey there) so i can't comment on the dynamics of interracial dating down under.
good day mam.
Member #1005
03-13-06, 23:30
Strange line of conversation here, especially as I was again in Prague last week for the second time of the year and earlier in January I spent ten days in Poland and five in Prague, it’s a place that I always recommend. It’s a great place to visit with two exception, one the cold weather (during winter) one day was -27 and that is cold but the women were still hot, with the temperature averaging about -5 when it warmed up; the second is the thieving and pick pocketing, that seem to be rife, (you will have to read my post in Prague, when I get around to writing it).
Oh by the way I am also black and despite being the only black face in parts of Poland at times, in ten days I only ever saw one Asian and a big American woman married to a Polish guy, who thought I was an American. I spoke to many Polish girls who were obviously flirting with me, one girl in my hotel kept inviting me to come to her room to chat.
So what does this all mean? That these girls were flirting with me were at the bottom of the social economic scale? Or that a large not too beautiful American woman has to go all the way to Poland to find a husband? Dirdingy I think your views are somewhat jaded since you do not actually live in Europe whereas I do, and IMHO the three best countries in Europe that are so easy to meet women despite the colour of ones skin are the Czech & Slovak Republic and Latvia.
What a lot of people often forget is that the majority of Czechs are not your typical eastern Europeans, they are Bohemians and the mind-set is prevalent in the country and please note since the 1920s Prague has always been on Jazz circuit, only interrupted by the war.
Rubber Nursey
03-14-06, 01:57
no offense mam, but, aren't you a hore? one would be hard-pressed to disprove my previous comments by the example you proffer: i am a hoe who likes to fuck "negroes" thus white women who date blacks are not trashy. au contraire ma souer, you actually buttress the point that you were trying to refute.
Hahahahaha...like I didn't see THAT coming from a mile away. I guess I could point out that, using YOUR logic, if hookers are lower than pond scum and yet you still fork out a whole lot of money every year to travel around the world for the sole purpose of FUCKING them, it might say a little something about YOUR character. Funny how MY integrity goes plummeting downwards the minute I charge a man for sex, but the integrity of the man I charge remains intact. But I digress...
I'm presuming that this racial debate started, as it usually does, by a "What countries are best for a brutha to get girls" type question? Being that this section is about people travelling to OTHER countries to find LTRs, the point I was trying to make with my post was that any 'foreigner', when visiting another country, has the potential to be considered 'exotic' by the locals. And the more 'foreign' their race/culture/accent/whatever, the more exotic they appear. Like, as I said, a Negro man coming to Australia. (And for the record, I hope my use of the word Negro doesn't offend anyone here - I'm using it simply to distinguish between people of African descent and people of Aboriginal descent).
Australia is, in my opinion, a very liberal country with pretty broadminded attitudes to most things. There are pockets of racism and a very active Moral Minority like in any other country, but overall, I don't think interracial relationships factor very highly in the 'things to do to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) Mum and Dad off' stakes. Call me crazy, but I believe that real love is colour blind. There might be certain physical attributes or character traits that tend to turn us on more than others, but ultimately, love comes from the heart, not the eyes. It's also about mutual respect - and respect, sir, after the way you addressed me, denigrated black people and spoke about your girlfriend (who I hope gets a clue very quickly and runs a mile), is obviously not a character trait that you possess in abundance.
Mam, I mean you no slight solely for the sake of slight. I mean you no disrespect. At one time you were obviously left with a pretty bad hand and chose to play your cards in a way that would provide some level of financial security for you and you kids; however, you would certainly agree that there is a negative stigma attached to prostitutes. Unfortunately, society draws a line between service patrons and service providers. Is this fair? Who knows? But I don’t know one sister or mother in the world that would fail to bat an eye if their brother or son announced that they were marrying a former prostitute.
Re you assement of my character and ability to fly half way around the world to fuck women. I have only taken two purely mongering trips in my life (Thailand and Columbia). I do not command a salary to be a true international monger—which I guess would be, at the very least, have to be 150K a year—which would enable me to jet around the world spending thousands each month on prostitutes. I am lucky enough to be still be in my mid-twenties and be employed as a consultant for a company that has numerous State and USAID contracts in E.Europe. I honestly do not use prostitutes that much as its easy enough here to meet regular women who put out with little effort of my part. And while I am not as loaded as some of the men on this board are, my 72K a year tax free comp package, my lack of wife and child, and (occasional) diplomatic passport make me pretty attractive to the women of ee. Oddly enough, the prostitutes that I have screwed in any place but Moscow and Cartagena rate at least two notches lower than what my girlfriend was at the time.
Anyway, I take umbrage with you labeling me a racist. I do not believe that any race is genetically superior to any other. Although I do believe that certain cultures, societies, and civilizations are superior to others. I have simply pointed out what many white dudes have stated—with various degrees of aplomb—that once a woman goes black she can never go back. (Of course this adage is tossed out when on vacation or when a woman is working away from home.) Even the most liberal minded Scandinavian man will not take home a black baby from his mate’s previous relationship to his mother.
Unfortunately for both RN and Jr. you fail to differentiate between curiosity, entertainment, and respect. Like too many blacks abroad (over 80% of them; mostly soldiers) you erroneously equate the desire to fuck something new as evidence of respect. E.Europeans have a very low opinion of blacks in general—they are either poor students from Africa or niggers who sing, jive, and bounce a ball. Blacks are solely for entertainment purposes. The girls think this too. So while you may be alright for a surreptitious hotel booty call the same woman would not dare take you to her hood to meet mom and dad.
Simply because Czechs like jazz this does not disprove the aforementioned. Once again, a negro is for entertainment; he’s a joker, nothing more. All those Slavs (and EEs in general) are the same. I lived in Serbia with my grandparents for a while; spent six months in high school in Belarus, studied abroad in Jagelownski University, and have worked in E. Europe aside from a brief stint in finance and about a year as a fed since graduating from college. While the only place you are likely to get attacked (and where you’re an American passport well not deter this) is Russia and to a lesser extent the Ukraine, the people of ee do not really respect blacks. One of most depressing things I see is blacks who are treated as minstrels by poor ass slavs who lack the capacity to realize this. I don’t know who you are, what you do, or what you look like Jr., but I only pray that you don’t fall into the same…these people are smiling at me in ee so they must like me… trap that too many brothers fall into over here.
Finally, Jr, it’s often prudent to scan a poster’s previous posts to get a feel for who they are (or who they claim to be). Both you and rastaman have assumed incorrect things which could have been avoided if you’d taken 90 seconds to gather some BI from previous posts.
By the way I think the reputation of American blacks as entertainers and ballers is very inaccurate. We are taking up our rightful leadership positions in commerce, politics, and law. Barrack Obama (who has what Colin Powell doesn’t, presidential ambition) and Richard Parsons are only the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, Mr. Goldstein’s pockets are padded by minstrelizing American blacks and there are too many blacks who willingly sell their soul for a few hundred K
Once again, I meant you no offense RN. If you send me your picture maybe I can patronize your services…but I’ll need the brotha man discount.
DJ FourMoney
03-14-06, 11:55
Which again brings back to some core issuses when traveling aboard.
How will I be accepted by the country I visit?
For a white male from Europe or America that generally is a non-issue. Of course some of you have been labeled too as the "Ugly Americans" by many media outlets both here and elsewhere for loud behavior & heavy drinking, among other things.
Some of the things you brought up about relationships outside of the core relationship are issues Africans and African-Americans deal with every fricken day if we desire relations outside of our group. I'm positive its no different for women in other parts of the world, even the US to some degree.
By your standards, black males hardly have the status overall that white males do, so why would you be worried about black men going after lower class women you wouldn't want to date long term or bring back home to your mamma either?
Because all too often lower class women world-wide are also hoes, period. Only in America can you find highly educated and honest "hoes" working as escorts in various larger cities. From what I gather this is NOT the case elsewhere.
White Men want a steady flow of poor, uneducated fresh talent to use for your monger purposes and maybe "plunk" one from her unforunate surroundings that you feel might actually make a good housewife.
Black Males, specifically Black Americans are a threat now because our "Urban" Culture that most Whites said was a passing fad, is now dominating media outlets WORLD WIDE. Add to the fact that many of us are tired of American women as well, Black or White that alot of us with the means are starting to look elsewhere for STR and LTR relationships
Because of this, we are generally after the same women, as you put it Drikdingy, there in-lyes the "rub".
As I said before, everything is fine as long as White Males play on their side of the playground and we play on our side of the playground.
As for how others feel about Black People, we have nobody to blame but ourselves generally, but its not like White Males have furthered that by stereptyping Black Men at every turn if they feel it will give them an advantage with women.
Barrack Obama has as little chance being President as P.Diddy does. White America for one thing isn't ready for a woman or a black president at this point and you would think giving somebody else a shot would be a good idea.
But as usual White (Males) Makes Right, so what else can be said about that???
Mam, I mean you no slight solely for the sake of slight. I mean you no disrespect. At one time you were obviously left with a pretty bad hand and chose to play your cards in a way that would provide some level of financial security for you and you kids; however, you would certainly agree that there is a negative stigma attached to prostitutes. Unfortunately, society draws a line between service patrons and service providers. Is this fair? Who knows? But I don’t know one sister or mother in the world that would fail to bat an eye if their brother or son announced that they were marrying a former prostitute.
Re you assement of my character and ability to fly half way around the world to fuck women. I have only taken two purely mongering trips in my life (Thailand and Columbia). I do not command a salary to be a true international monger—which I guess would be, at the very least, have to be 150K a year—which would enable me to jet around the world spending thousands each month on prostitutes. I am lucky enough to be still be in my mid-twenties and be employed as a consultant for a company that has numerous State and USAID contracts in E.Europe. I honestly do not use prostitutes that much as its easy enough here to meet regular women who put out with little effort of my part. And while I am not as loaded as some of the men on this board are, my 72K a year tax free comp package, my lack of wife and child, and (occasional) diplomatic passport make me pretty attractive to the women of ee. Oddly enough, the prostitutes that I have screwed in any place but Moscow and Cartagena a rate at least two notches lower than what my girlfriend was at the time.
Anyway, I take umbrage with you labeling me a racist. I do not believe that any race is genetically superior to any other. Although I do believe that certain cultures, societies, and civilizations are superior to others. I have simply pointed out what many white dudes have stated—with various degrees of aplomb—that once a woman goes black she can never go back. (Of course this adage is tossed out when on vacation or when a woman is working away from home.) Even the most liberal minded Scandinavian man will not take home a black baby from his mate’s previous relationship to his mother.
Unfortunately for both RN and Jr. you fail to differentiate between curiosity, entertainment, and respect. Like too many blacks abroad (over 80% of them; mostly soldiers) you erroneously equate the desire to fuck something new as evidence of respect. E.Europeans have a very low opinion of blacks in general—they are either poor students from Africa or niggers who sing, jive, and bounce a ball. Blacks are solely for entertainment purposes. The girls think this too. So while you may be alright for a surreptitious hotel booty call the same woman would not dare take you to her hood to meet mom and dad.
Simply because Czechs like jazz this does not disprove the aforementioned. Once again, a negro is for entertainment; he’s a joker, nothing more. All those Slavs (and EEs in general) are the same. I lived in Serbia with my grandparents for a while; spent six months in high school in Belarus, studied abroad in Jagelownski University, and have worked in E. Europe aside from a brief stint in finance and about a year as a fed since graduating from college. While the only place you are likely to get attacked (and where you’re an American passport well not deter this) is Russia and to a lesser extent the Ukraine, the people of ee do not really respect blacks. One of most depressing things I see is blacks who are treated as minstrels by poor ass slavs who lack the capacity to realize this. I don’t know who you are, what you do, or what you look like Jr., but I only pray that you don’t fall into the same…these people are smiling at me in ee so they must like me… trap that too many brothers fall into over here.
Finally, Jr, it’s often prudent to scan a poster’s previous posts to get a feel for who they are (or who they claim to be). Both you and rastaman have assumed incorrect things which could have been avoided if you’d taken 90 seconds to gather some BI from previous posts.
By the way I think the reputation of American blacks as entertainers and ballers is very inaccurate. We are taking up our rightful leadership positions in commerce, politics, and law. Barrack Obama (who has what Colin Powell doesn’t, presidential ambition) and Richard Parsons are only the tip of the iceberg. Unfortunately, Mr. Goldstein’s pockets are padded by minstrelizing American blacks and there are too many blacks who willingly sell their soul for a few hundred K
Once again, I meant you no offense RN. If you send me your picture maybe I can patronize your services…but I’ll need the brotha man discount.
Black Males, specifically Black Americans are a threat now because our "Urban" Culture that most Whites said was a passing fad, is now dominating media outlets WORLD WIDE.
the black urban underclass with its values of promiscuity, victimization, and mass ignorance is to be shunned not envied. it's a shame that you no so little of your own history or choose to hold up hip-hop culture as some sort of beacon of accomplishment. if members of the American black uberclass would pull their pants up off their asses, learn to communicate in proper english, and go to school and focus on anything aside from running behind a ball the vast majority of the problems black America faces would be resolved. urban culture threatens nothing or nobody. once again, it reduces blacks to jiving minstrels for the enjoyment of others. you, like most other blacks fail to see this. explain to me what you gain from some polish kid wearing an eminmem shirt and baggy pants. respect? lol. his fubu shirt ain't even real mate.
anyway, most of the time its the jews who get reap the financial benefits from the commercial exploitation of blacks. you're from la right? i used to dabble in acting and i've seen countless times some jew telling some black guy on set or doing an audition to, you know, ...act more niggerish. its hilarious. you know what snoop got from doggystye, one of the best selling hip-hop records of all times? a green jeep cherokee and some bling bling. others are laughing at "your" urban culture all the way to "their" banks.
i would never say this in the real world, but I hope Katrina comes to all the innercities in America.
I was born and raised in new york city and started listening to rap music before it was even called rap.I used to get shit in school for listening to "black music" by the other kids but I knew I was listening to good stuff.These days I must agree with what dirkdingy(although a bigot) that black culture is getting way too much credit for what it is and white kids who dont know any better are getting sucked into a vortex of stupidity.
It's nothing to be proud of. It's a breeding ground for every idiot without any self identity and it's ruining any progress the black community has made over these past years.
I loved public enemy,the crash crew,big daddy kane,Eric B and Rakim,poor righteous teachers,brand nubians,de la soul,EPMD etc. These guys were innovators with a message just like the rebels of punk music but the new school are a bunch of losers biting old beats defacing the work of those who gave them the opporunity.
The funny thing about it is that they are all pawns to the white mans game exactly what they rap against and worse they are killing themselves on the street to boost their image.
The whispers,heatwave,process and the doo rags,the delphonics,sam cook ,the tramps earth wind jimi hendrix these are people to be proud of.
Again I'm glad black people are getting theres .
DJ FourMoney
03-15-06, 09:15
I do shun most of it, in fact I wish alot of it was never heard. But the horse has been out of the barn for a long time, little we can do about now and as a whole blacks aren't willing to do anything about it.
Alot of black folk say just what you have said in general, you just don't hear it in the media because its not a popular opinion. Giving even more ammo to the argument that un-bias media in America doesn't exist. We all know the "real" news isn't being told, especially on Fox News, but that's another thread.
I know Jews control the media business as a whole but they also understand what sells to the majority of innercity and SUBURBAN young.
I know of several artist that have gotten even less from record labels but again that's another post.
The point here being that your entitled to your opinion, however wrong or stupid it may sound.
I guess we'll never get along, so with that in mind, I'll just keep doing my thing and you can say whatever you want, it won't change anything and Katrina can't happen to LA, but a serious earthquake could and not only blacks but latinos, koreans and others will suffer just as much as anybody else does. This is a very international city as a whole and when we fight among yourselves, that's one thing, but when we have to depend on only us to get the job done we get it done.
the black urban underclass with its values of promiscuity, victimization, and mass ignorance is to be shunned not envied. it's a shame that you no so little of your own history or choose to hold up hip-hop culture as some sort of beacon of accomplishment. if members of the American black uberclass would pull their pants up off their asses, learn to communicate in proper english, and go to school and focus on anything aside from running behind a ball the vast majority of the problems black America faces would be resolved. urban culture threatens nothing or nobody. once again, it reduces blacks to jiving minstrels for the enjoyment of others. you, like most other blacks fail to see this. explain to me what you gain from some polish kid wearing an eminmem shirt and baggy pants. respect? lol. his fubu shirt ain't even real mate.
anyway, most of the time its the jews who get reap the financial benefits from the commercial exploitation of blacks. you're from la right? i used to dabble in acting and i've seen countless times some jew telling some black guy on set or doing an audition to, you know, ...act more niggerish. its hilarious. you know what snoop got from doggystye, one of the best selling hip-hop records of all times? a green jeep cherokee and some bling bling. others are laughing at "your" urban culture all the way to "their" banks.
i would never say this in the real world, but I hope Katrina comes to all the innercities in America.
DJ FourMoney
03-15-06, 09:16
I was born and raised in new york city and started listening to rap music before it was even called rap.I used to get shit in school for listening to "black music" by the other kids but I knew I was listening to good stuff.These days I must agree with what dirkdingy(although a bigot) that black culture is getting way too much credit for what it is and white kids who dont know any better are getting sucked into a vortex of stupidity.
It's nothing to be proud of. It's a breeding ground for every idiot without any self identity and it's ruining any progress the black community has made over these past years.
I loved public enemy,the crash crew,big daddy kane,Eric B and Rakim,poor righteous teachers,brand nubians,de la soul,EPMD etc. These guys were innovators with a message just like the rebels of punk music but the new school are a bunch of losers biting old beats defacing the work of those who gave them the opporunity.
The funny thing about it is that they are all pawns to the white mans game exactly what they rap against and worse they are killing themselves on the street to boost their image.
The whispers,heatwave,process and the doo rags,the delphonics,sam cook ,the tramps earth wind jimi hendrix these are people to be proud of.
Again I'm glad black people are getting theres .
I totally co-sign....
Rubber Nursey
03-15-06, 10:06
Once again, I meant you no offense RN. If you send me your picture maybe I can patronize your services…but I’ll need the brotha man discount.
RTFF Mr Dingy - I haven't worked in the industry for about three years now.
I've already said my piece on interracial dating and a black man's chance of getting laid in my country, which is the topic of this section. Anything else would be considered off-topic, so I have no intention of getting into a personal pissing match with you here - or in private. Ok?
I think the majority of situations in america could be looked as a white trash scenario on the otherhand europe is different.I'm jealous of the jamaican guys that get the mature german ladies on the otherhand I have no envy about what goes on in america.I think the black guys who are lucky in america are the young black males in middle america dating white high school girls and cashing in on the hip hop culture.I have no objection to it and I'm hoping it breeds a more tolerant generation which this world really needs.I've stated many times before darker women turn me on way more than white woman.
I think your kidding yourself if you think all black adult males get the cream of the crop.Usually you see a black guy with low rent pussy that has bad hair and a big ass who has some kind of identity problem within her own culture.Most of those guys are aware of it thats why I try not to look at them eventhough it's intresting to watch.I dont think black woman appreciate it either.
There are exceptions to every rule and what I said does not explain everyone but I think anybody with an unbiased opinion would agree with me.
Where do you live? Maybe this brotha needs to get down with some of that.
I'm really confused. The majority of the last few posts seem to AGREE with DD that black males primarily only meet low class white women. I have been <dated> with every tribe under the sun, except Asians. None of the girls I have been with were lower class, because I'm not lower class. Almost all had at least a 4 year degree, none had kids, all had ambition, brains. Some had looks, some did not. I'm really attracted to smart women, so sometimes I would date women I was not particularly physically attracted to, but I loved their minds.
So, does this make me a singularity, an instance in nature that will never happen again? Or does this mean that some people just don't drop to the lowest common denominator, just to find a mate?
Not bashing DD or anything, but his views are what I, and I'm sure others, have lived with all my life. Nothing new is said.
/tangent on
As to modern hip-hop culture, what is viewed on MTV or on the radio is not hip-hop. It's pop music. Hip hop music started with dancing and beats, rap came a few years later. What is shown in the media is what the "powers that be" believes to be most profitable. Like MOST things on commercial radio/tv, it's crap. Wanna hear some good music, listen to Dilated Peoples, Madlib, Common, some Old School Eric B and Rakim, Public Enemy. As with most things, do not take what the media dishes as gospel, it's most likely propaganda for profit.
/tangent off
Rubber Nursey, like your points. And to all in general, nice way to keep the discussion civil.
Respect.
F
DJ FourMoney
03-15-06, 20:35
Not where I live. Bruthas here get the banginest white punani running around.
You actually get some of both.
But why should THAT be any different? I see white males with QUESTIONABLE looking females as well, so what is THAT saying about their selection of women?
Sorry, but White Male don't always get the best looking women either, only a select few, just like only a select few brothas get the hottest chicks.
Let's be honest about one thing, hardly any of the providers seen on these boards are what I would call 9's and 10's (pictures provided). What you get is bias opinion on lady's looks from around the world. Myself I don't find Asians all that hot and I maintain the best looking Asians are already here on American soil and I have PLENTY of examples I can show you. You can keep your low-rent, non-english speaking village women.
The only place I can think of that has better looking women than what's in the US already is South America and even that is LIMITED at best. You still find popmarked and overweight chicas there too.
The US has the best mix of women internationally bar-none, period end of story. The problem has never been how they look, its what's in their HEADS.
Look my father was in his mid 50's pulling older Dutch ladies back in the mid 80's I don't think THINGS have changed THAT much in 20 years, if anything its become more tolerant.
I'll agree with Rasta on one point however, if you REALLY think Black Men can not pull talent on equal level with any normal white dude SADLY mistaken.
Seal ain't the hottest dude by a long shot, but he's bangin Hedi Klum and your not.
Case Closed (which is a good bit of anime as well)
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