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Ting Tong
06-19-02, 03:39
Thailand

Ilike2pay4it
06-25-02, 01:24
Without a doubt! THAILAND!

Franke
07-02-02, 18:32
...actually, my Vote would be on Romania, but sounds like I should go for Thailand... ;-)

The E
07-26-02, 19:07
Ethiopia... 30,000 SW in Addis under the age of 20 are the statistics!

Dickhead
07-26-02, 22:46
Seeking opinions on what is the best country AND city for multiple STRs over time, GIVEN THAT

1) I'd have a part-time job that would require reliable daily (at least) internet access that I would be paying for, but it's only five months a year,
2) I'd have $1600 US per month (for twelve months) after tax to live on and get laid off of,
3) I can live in a small apartment but I want to live alone,
4) I don't need or really want a car,
5) I spend about $400 US per month right now on booze and weed, and would give up one or the other if necessary but not both,
6) I have simple tastes otherwise, can cook for myself, won't need to buy much, etc.
7) The job is no more or less secure than any job so when it blows up I'll just say oh well and return to the US for a while,
8) I speak decent but not fluent Spanish (can function in an all-Spanish environment with maybe a few misunderstandings), just a little bit of French (can read menus and street signs and know basic phrases), and being an American I do speak a form of English as well, but nothing else.
9) Weather's gotta be decent. Constant extreme heat and humidity is a no-no, as is a constantly rainy climate.

Mongering goal would be as much as possible with any money left over, but at least one good session every week. I'd like to pick a town and stay there for at least a year.

Thoughts?

Prokofiev
07-26-02, 22:55
. . .Have you considered Hell?? No, check that. Extreme heat

. . . and seeing that you spend 25%+ of your budget on booze and weed, I think the no-car policy is wise. Just my opinion. What do I know . . .Good Luck -P

The E
07-27-02, 00:59
I still say Ethiopia. Ethiopia has one of the lowest GNP in the world. Ethiopian women love white men. Ethiopian women are beautiful. The cost of living there is cheap. The average person makes about $100 US dollars per month. You will live there like a king. And like I said eariler, 30,000 young prostitutes!

Johan007
08-06-02, 19:02
Guys,
my list on STR (that is Ho's...) based on personal experience,reading these stories and stories from friends and others. My "ratio" is composed with a few factors,such as: savety,price/quality comparison,availebility and personal likes(from me).

I could'nt make one for the whole world...so I devided it up for Europe,South-Ameria and Asia...as these are the well known sexdestinations in the world.

EUROPE:
1 Holland
2 Romania
3 Poland
4 Bulgaria
5 Germany

South-America:
1 Peru
2 Brasil
3 DR
4 Colombia
5 Costa Rica

Asia:
1 Thailand
2 Idonesia
3 China
4 The philipines
5 Cambodia

my two cents....

Johan.

ymmv.

Seoulmac
08-08-02, 14:31
Nice breakdown however I think you are overlooking one of the strongest sex markets currently in Europe- Spain! So many women from Latin America have been coming over it is unreal, not to mention that a country with a great tourism industry will indeed also have a sex industry on the side as well.

As for your choices in Latin America, surprised that you put Peru above Brazil and Dominican Republic?!!? What were you thinking, you must have had some really really great experience in Peru and are biased or something. ;)

Johan007
08-08-02, 21:18
Just read my trip reports about Lima then you know why!!!

Peru has many different kinds of women and CHEAP...Cheap...and save!!!!
Brasil can be some what pricey and very unsafe in certain cities.

DR is going rapidly DOWN HILL...overrated and overpriced.
Cuba is not even worth mentioning. Too expensive and too much hassle to get laid there:-(

Spain??? I know there are also many Russian ho's there as well....not my kindda cup of tea.

Maybe you are right about the SA chicks down there in Spain.

Johan.

PS: If there was a LIST of WORST places to go to look for SW I'd say this was my list
1 Iceland
2 Norway
3 Japan (too expensive and mostly not even availeble for non-japs...!!)
4 Barhein and all other arabian nations
5 USA.;-)

wsgman
08-09-02, 15:40
Canada has it hands down - especially Montreal. There is nothing else even close in the world.

If I were single I would move there or vacation there and learn to speak French and Fuck the Escorts until I dropped.

Where else in the world can you LEGALLY have at your beck and call astoundingly beautiful, intelligent, drug and disease free and very clean young women for as little as 140 Canadian per hours ( only about 85 US )??

Many will fuck you eagerly twice in that same hour making sure your pleasure is paramount. You can even refuse the girl at the door if she is not what you expect.

The same in the US costs 3 times as much and is not as good.

Rubber Nursey
08-09-02, 16:26
Dickhead,

PERTH, W.A, THE MAGICAL LAND OF OZ!

1) We have internet access everywhere, and it would be as reliable as yours is in the U.S.
2) You'd have over $AU3000 dollars a month seeing as the Oz dollar is worth so little against the greenback.
3) Housing is cheap, cheap, cheap here.
4) We have an excellent transport system that can take you to any corner of the city...and fast.
5) Booze and weed is cheap here, and there are plenty of friendly people who would love to help you smoke/drink it, should you feel the need for company! LOL
6) Our cost of living is lower than most of the other states.
7) Once you come here, you won't want to leave *grin*
8) Understanding an American is difficult, but not impossible. Learn to say "G'day", "No worries mate" and "Chuck us a tinny will ya, luv", and you'll fit right in.
9) We have some of the best weather in the world. And no snow...ever.

Mongering? In YOUR dollars, prices range from around $25 - $30 for a quickie, up to between $75 and $100 for the hour (depending whether you go private or to a brothel). Girls are clean, educated and friendly...and as a client you don't have to worry about police raids or entrapment (unless you cruise for street girls).

And there's ME!!! LOL

CBGBConnisur
08-09-02, 17:12
85 bucks for an escort? I went over there to Montreal and it does not match up to Europe. As for those 140 Canadian an hour escorts being gorgeous you have got to be kidding. I called a couple of them to my room and wanted to kiss them on the mouth and they both said no. I still prefer Parisian women to their Quebocoise counterparts, they seem more open and kind of make the move on you before you even say anything.

Dickhead
08-09-02, 21:42
Yup Rub I quite agree but the only thing is, it's so blasted expensive to get there it'd eat up 2 months' salary even if I fly coach, which is miserable for 15 hours. I guess Perth'd be closer to 20 hours. Course I could always break the flight up with a stop in Thailand or Hong Kong. I do speak pretty good Australian; I don't confuse my tinnies with my stubbies even when they're buried in the Eskie and I would trade my fanny pack in for a bum bag.

What's the pot laws like? Do I risk a holiday at her majesty's expense? I know it's really hot there in the summer but what about the winter? I worry about me fair Celtic skin and all of that. Also please define "cheap" rent. I was lucky enough to hit Oz when your dollar was only worth 49 of my cents but I see it is now 53; guess I could live with that.

Maybe Oz March through Sep and Costa Rica Oct through Feb would work. Gotta keep chasing those frequent flyer miles (that's how I got there last time).

PS Dickhead ain't into quickies!

Rubber Nursey
08-10-02, 10:31
Dickhead,

I was just looking up a trip to San Diego the other day. The price ex-Perth was $1300 Oz dollars return, stopping in Sydney and at LAX (making it a 26 hour flight *groan*) I don't know what part of America you are in, but I can't see a one-way flight being too expensive. Or maybe it's only expensive from the US? Is there a way you could book a trip through an Oz airline and pay for it through an Australia agent? (via the net maybe?) I'm pretty naive about this stuff 'coz I've never flown in my life...so excuse me if I sound like a fool! LOL

The pot laws were actually relaxed in this state just a couple of months ago. It was decriminalised to a certain extent...there are certain amounts you can have for personal use that you don't get in trouble for, and other amounts that you will be fined for but receive no criminal record. Unless you are intending on having a huge hydroponics set-up in your spare room, you should be fine as far as the law goes.

Accomodation...you can get an apartment in the city for between $AU100 and $AU220 a week, depending on how flash you want it to be. The suburbs are much cheaper. For example, I live in a newly built 4 bedroom family home, 7 minutes from the CBD, and I pay $AU180 a week. My rent is quite expensive in comparison to many. I'd say the average for what you would need would cost about $US70 per week, close to the city.

Yes, our summers are very hot. Winter is pretty temperate...today we are all wearing jumpers and complaining that we haven't been this cold in ages, (I'm sitting in front of the heater), and it's 59 degrees farenheit! LOL Average winters day is about 65-75...no snow ever in Perth.

And don't forget....there's ME!!!! haha

Dickhead
08-10-02, 17:56
Thanks, Rub. Yeah, that's pretty cheap. My mortgage is $1200 US per month and rental value of the house is just a little less. I remember being quite surprised that y'all have to pay rent weekly. It's normally monthly here unless you are staying in a hotel or a boarding house (BTW "flat" to a Yank = "apartment").

I had heard that you could get cheaper flights from Oz to US and back than vice versa (BTW "return" to a Yank is "round trip") so maybe I'll check it out. The fare probably relates to the country where you start out, though, or everybody would be doing it.

We have decriminalization in my state also: less than one ounce (28.3 grams) = $100 fine but can be higher for public use and such. > 1 oz < 6 oz = misdemeanor; > 6 oz = "possession with intent to sell" = felony. So I buy half an ounce at a time.

Oh well, this ain't a dope board but I do love to get high before sex so thanks for the info. Maybe we'll see you out there next year. I find it hard to believe you've never been to Sydney or Melbourne. I liked Sydney better even though Melbourne is arguably prettier (lovely gardens and such). I took the train from Melbourne to Sydney; that was a lot of fun.

Seoulmac
08-11-02, 12:21
Hey, you are beginning to sell me too on this idea of visiting Oz. How are fares from North Asia? Some frustrations and disappointments here although I did have luck last night. ;o)

08-11-02, 18:20
I am getting math phobia here, if I have it straight the Aussie dollar is worth about a half dollar US right now. And RN is paying about $90 US per week for a newly built 4 bedroom home. (In my city of Boston that would not get you a parking spot) I am not confident I have it straight because Dickhead says plane tickets would cost him two months salery and at about $6oo round trip I hope thats not his full pay for two months...I am starting to like the Euro more all the time.

On the Montreal escorts,,,,,I get up to Montreal a couple of times a year. Montreal really is a great place for escorts and fun of all kinds. $85 US is possible, but spending just a few dollars more say $100 or $120 will dramatically improve you choices and quality. Also if you can manage to deal with the french language only services you get lots more for your money. Outcalls are legal so there is no risk of being arrested and that has made the bussiness much different than US escort services. The attitudes are friendly and many women will have sex twice in an hour at those prices, but you should agree to that ahead of time just to be sure. You can say exactly what you want because it is legal, no need for games. Street girls are also plentifull along Saint Catherine st. The prices start around $20 US, but thats not legal so be more carefull.

Amsterdam is much better known as a sex tourism destination because they have an adult shopping zone, but Montreal is a better value especially if you live within driving distance.

Joe Zop
08-11-02, 18:43
Brett: A roundtrip ticket for me in the Detroit area to Perth would run in the range of $1600USD for one of the cheaper roundtrips I can find quickly. I'm sure I could do a bit better if I look. On the other hand, if I take a look at Orbitz, I'll see prices in the $3200USD range, which might explain Dickhead's two-month statement (since elsewhere here he's defined his income as $1600 a month.)

I found Oz a marvelous place, would happily go back, and the sex tourist scene in Sydney, which is where I was, is relaxed and easy. Pricier than in SE Asia, cheaper than the US, beautiful country, nice people, and hey, heavenly weather especially if you're looking at it though the lens of what Boston, Detroit or Montreal look like around January...

Dickhead
08-11-02, 19:33
JZ and Brett, the two months' salary (at $1600 US a month per my post as JZ noted) was a rough guesstimate based on the research I did before my prior trip. I just was on travelocity.com and saw $1600 "plus fees" for RT from my city to Perth so maybe my guess was on the high side (fortunately). That was on Singapore Air and I don't remember them being on my radar screen last time. I didn't read through all the restrictions since the fare was only good til Dec. '02 and I can't leave until Jan. '03. But, other times the cheapest fares have had restrictions that wouldn't work for me, like a 30 day max stay. However, the Singapore Air fare said 6 months max stay and I think that's all the longer you can legally stay there anyway. Frequent flyer miles is the way to go for these expensive flights and I "manufacture" miles by purchsing US Savings Bonds with my mileage earning credit card (among other schemes). I think maybe I can manufacture enough by next summer, which is their winter of course and that's when I'd want to go anyway.

Last Christmas I drove a truck for UPS for a few weeks to finance my travels so maybe I'll do that again this year although I hated it. Of course, if my housing costs here weren't so high I wouldn't have this problem.

Another option would be to drain my 401(k) and then make sure I drink myself to death at an early age. Oh wait a minute, it's already too late for me to die at an early age.

Oh, and to clarify, my salary isn't $1600 a month NOW. $1600 a month would be what I would be reduced to if I took the portable, "virtual" job I am contemplating. Even I'm not enough of a Dickhead to spend 25% of my pay on booze and weed on a permanent basis.

Rubber Nursey
08-13-02, 17:41
Dickhead,

Most people pay their rent fortnightly here (unless they're like me and pay it whenever they manage to get the cash! lol) I think we only refer to "weekly" rent because that's what the real estate agents quote in the To Let ads...in an attempt to make us forget about exactly how much we will be paying out over the month!

BTW..in Oz, flat = unit or "dogbox" (very cheap, poky little bedsit/one bedroom in a high rise block...often shared laundry facilities) and apartment = loft/studio/townhouse (basically a smaller version of a "real" family home, usually in a small complex of between 4 and 10).

Seoulmac,

Sorry honey, I have no idea about flights from anywhere else. But we are very close to many parts of Asia, and from what I understand, it's not at all expensive to fly there from here. (We can go to Bali for around $AU300 - $AU500). Not sure what the price is like ex-Asia though.

Joe Zop
08-13-02, 18:08
Seoulmac -- on a quick look, I see that flights from Seoul to Sydney run in the same general range as those from the US. Looks like there are probably some cheaper options, as I was able to find decent round-trips via JAL from Tokyo to New Zealand, and they promis lots of others as well.

Dickhead -- I agree on the frequent flier mile front; that's how I'm managing my upcoming Thailand trip, as the cost of the ticket is more than I'll pay for three months lodging (and is more than a month in a suite in the last hotel where I stayed in Bangkok.) I'm lucky enough to do enough travel work that the miles pile up so I can afford other trips for myself, cause I sure ain't rich.

What I need to do is manage another trip to Oz under my last circumstances -- I actually won a free trip via a record-store promotion. But that doesn't exactly fall into the "hold your breath" category of planning.

Rubber Nursey
08-13-02, 18:12
By the way...what's a 401(k)? I've heard people mention it before. Is it like superannuation (retirement fund)?

Joe Zop
08-13-02, 18:14
Yup, that's it, RN.

Rubber Nursey
08-13-02, 18:17
Thanx Joe. You'll have to excuse this 'lil dumb Aussie...my American ain't so good...

NetNJ
12-01-02, 04:09
I've had my adventures mainly in Asia. But I'm getting tired of the scene. I was wondering where else (in the world) can I get more for my US dollars?

NetNJ
12-01-02, 05:58
I have been adventuring mainly in the Philippines and Thailand. Chiefly due to the currency conversion.

Does anyone have any information about other courtries (in Latina America or EU) where my US dollars will go far?

Marconista
12-02-02, 03:02
hmmm... hi friends.

I have not been visiting this thread for a while, and now I find that "what country has the Best Women for Short Time Relation" are discussing cost of renting houses in Australia. Does this mean that RN has been selected the best STR, although none of you have met each other yet LOL

I'm sorry - just could not help myself... Just had a nice dinner and a few glasses of Australian wine.. so my mood is good..

continue the friendly discussion he he he,,,

Rubber Nursey
12-12-02, 15:21
LOL! Hiya Marconista! Long time no see!

Best STR?? Well hopefully, one day, at least ONE of these guys will take a trip Down Under and let you all know whether or not that's true!!! (A steady stream of men with foreign accents...ohhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhh) ;)

Darkseid
01-08-03, 19:23
Hi RN, I like the sound of Australia and I will take a visit (maybe even visit you if you are available, hehe.) I would visit Sydney and other cities. An Aussie friend of mine said that it is much more difficult to gain residency in Sydney than a more mellow city like Brisbane. She also says that the older you are, the more difficult. I am 30years old going on to 31 in April 6. Perhaps if I want into this country bad enough I will settle there. Any place is better than New York and I'm not just complaining about the women. The weather totally sucks and it is very indecisive in the winter. You have a hot 93 degree day then the following week it drops to 23 degrees and snows. You also have terrorism, stress, and worst of all, the standard of living is expensive. In fact, I live in one of my parent's apartments. Yes, they would have been millionaires if they didn't pay 1 million and a half for an apartment complex which went down in value due to 9/11. I also checked out other places in America but the women still stick in other states.
I like a place with friendly women who love having a good time and think nothing of religious values. I am planning to go to Australia the second week of June. perhaps you can e-mail me your information at darkseid1998@yahoo.com.

Thanks

Whistle830
01-14-03, 19:34
Hi All;
Since this thread seems to focus on Australia, I thought I'd add my two cents.
I was in Oz in June '02 and had a great time. Started in Sydney and then spent a few days driving up to Surfer's Paradise.
My arrival was interesting. The customs seemed much more focused on stopping illegal fruits and veggies than drugs or terrorists. I was given a card warning me about fruits and veggies on the plane and saw several more signs in the terminal. My bag was also sniffed by a "fruits and veggies" customs dog.
I was also thrown but a question from the customs officer: "Do you have a criminal record?" I wasn't aware that you still needed one to get into the country.

Whistle

Bifford
01-20-03, 06:49
Responding to the original question...

Disclosure:
I prefer easy access (in-town legal brothels best), a wide selection to choose from, fair-skinned and slender girls with laid-back personality, low cost, and daytime availability.

Countries:
10. Japan. Very expensive. You can't even get in their pants if you're a foreigner, usually have to settle for mechanical hand job.
9. United States. Very expensive. Almost always have to deal with intermediary (escort service, bartender). Girls often come with attitude.
8. Costa Rica. Horrendous bright red lipstick, but inexpensive and often with latin passion.
7. Turkey. Good widespread system of brothels, but quality is poor, often fat.
6. Mexico. Women usually dumpy. But except in resorts, cheap, laid back and pleasant to talk to.
5. Spain. The most beautiful women in the world to look at. But sex bars are smokey, call girls are pricey.
4. France. The sexiest women in the world to be with. Getting harder to find them on the street and they're expensive.
3. Philippines. Really laid back, want to please you, inexpensive, easy to find. Not great looks but there are some cuties.
2. Holland. You want a well-organized brothel system with plenty of attractive white women, go to Amsterdam.

And the country with the Best Women for STR...

1. Thailand. LOADS of attractive pleasant fair-skinned young-looking women. Easy to find, inexpensive, pick and choose your favorite, and they are gentle and respectful. (Damn, I wish it didn't cost so much to fly over there!)

Dickhead
01-20-03, 08:28
Argen FUCKEN tina!

Darkseid
01-20-03, 15:30
DupepV, Don't forget South America. Both Brazil and Argentina has the best looking women and the best sex. I loved both countries equally anltohough some might like Brazil over Argentina or vice versa. However, I only stayed in Argentina for a few days on my way to Bahia where there are the best looking black women. They even look better than the African black women because they are mixed. Brazil also offers white women if you go to Rio de Janeiro. Asian women fans, sorry, there are none in Brazil but I love Brazilian women anyway because I had a lot of Asian pussy in my early years. For ASIAN women Thailand would be best and second Phillipines. I agree with you that Japan sucks because of the racism there (even against the Chinese!!). Chinese women were more willing to accomodate me when I was there but when my black friend to a brothel went with me to Beijing, they didn't want to do him until I intervened so there is racism in some parts of China too but not in Hong Kong.

Octatron
01-21-03, 01:16
Well the problem with this thread is that there are many people who post on it, but frankly they have not been to enough places in the world for a respectable assessment.

In addition I personally think knowbody has a right to post on this thread until they have been to Argentina and Brazil.

So IMHO. Brazil and Argentina are in a league all on there own.

Dickhead
01-21-03, 02:38
Octaron, your point is well taken. I have been to 30 countries and mongered on 5 continents and I say Argentina but I have only been to one little town in Brazil on the Amazon (but did monger) and have not been to Thailand or the other SE Asian mongering destinations (only Hong Kong). Thus I will rate the countries in which I have substantial mongering experience, in order.

1) Argentina (value equals quality divided by price)
2) Costa Rica (just good clean fun)
3) Australia (high quality but antiseptic)
4) Colombia (smoking hot but dangerous)
5) Hong Kong (great but expensive)
6) Spain (also great, also expensive)
7) The Netherlands (highly commercialized)
8) Mexico (girls watch TV during sex)
9) New Zealand (some uglies)
10) Belgium (snotty)
11) France (snottier)
12) Canada (some LE stings; have not mongered in French Canada)

489) Jamaica (pushy and thieving)
853) The Bahamas (pushy, thieving, and fat)
4,987,243) United States

Darkseid
01-21-03, 14:46
The United States women, regular and prostitutes, yucko!!!

Darkseid
01-23-03, 17:37
Hi RN,

I have trouble getting cheap tickets to Australia. Plane tickets range from $2000 up because of the distance and the transfering flights. What time of year can I go where plane tickets are the lowest and what price will I expect to pay. $2000 is more than the price to go to China (I paid $1500 to a trip to Hong Kong and another $350 to a trip to Beijing from Hong Kong).

AsiaTraveler2
01-23-03, 17:58
Originally posted by octatron
In addition I personally think knowbody has a right to post on this thread until they have been to Argentina and Brazil.

So IMHO. Brazil and Argentina are in a league all on there own.

octatron;
Just curious .. have you been to Thailand? Not questioning your choices, just want to know if they are above the Asian countries in your opinion. I've been to many places, but never Brazil or Argentina. My top pick would be Thailand hands down right now. I don't have a clear 2nd right now .. possibly Phillipines. I have been to Australia, Canada, Phillipines, China, Hong Kong\Macau, Japan, and all over the US (including Hawaii). I have been to Europe, but did not partake nearly enough to make a judgement there. I must say, that with the pure number of women available in Thailand and all of the variety .. Soapies, Massage Parlors, Escorts, Freelancers, Specialty shops, Hotel Girls, Beer Garden and other pickup places, Karaoke Places, High Class Establishments, Pool\Beer Bars, etc. etc. etc. I can imagine that Brazil and Argentina might rival it, but could not exceed BKK in quantity, variety, and quality. Look forward to your answer.

Octatron
01-23-03, 19:31
Yes I have been to Thailand but not Bangkok. I've been to Pattaya, Koi Samoi, and Phuket. I've mongered in all three. Of course I understand you can't compare these three places to Bangkok.

I've also mongered in Philippines, China (Hong Kong), Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Vietnam.

So I feel I’m qualified to compare Asians to Latina. I do agree that Asians women are accustomed to pleasing their partner or client it’s their culture. But for me Latin girls are just better fucking machines, and you are hurting yourself if you don’t go to South America, Central America, one of the Latin Caribbean islands or Spain.

For me there is no comparison.

I think I actually place Brazil just a notch above Argentina on the best sex in the world ranking. But Argentina pound for pound is the best place to go I believe. IMHO.

WordUp
01-23-03, 19:44
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.... Now this is the kind of report a MAN can use. Brotha, you get it. If you get a chance, I would like to read the extended version report, of your list. Sounds like you have a "REPORT" that the Brotha's of the WSG need to READ .

....... I WILL BE CHECKING BACK LATER FOR YOUR REPORT, and I will be alerting the Brotha's to look for your reports.


.... (((( WORD )))) ....







Originally posted by Dickhead
Octaron, your point is well taken. I have been to 30 countries and mongered on 5 continents and I say Argentina but I have only been to one little town in Brazil on the Amazon (but did monger) and have not been to Thailand or the other SE Asian mongering destinations (only Hong Kong). Thus I will rate the countries in which I have substantial mongering experience, in order.

1) Argentina (value equals quality divided by price)
2) Costa Rica (just good clean fun)
3) Australia (high quality but antiseptic)
4) Colombia (smoking hot but dangerous)
5) Hong Kong (great but expensive)
6) Spain (also great, also expensive)
7) The Netherlands (highly commercialized)
8) Mexico (girls watch TV during sex)
9) New Zealand (some uglies)
10) Belgium (snotty)
11) France (snottier)
12) Canada (some LE stings; have not mongered in French Canada)

489) Jamaica (pushy and thieving)
853) The Bahamas (pushy, thieving, and fat)
4,987,243) United States

AsiaTraveler2
01-23-03, 20:38
Originally posted by octatron
Yes I have been to Thailand but not Bangkok.
So I feel I’m qualified to compare Asians to Latina. But for me Latin girls are just better fucking machines, and you are hurting yourself if you don’t go to South America, Central America, one of the Latin Caribbean islands or Spain.

Nice to know, although I have had Latina women who said they were from Brazil and did not see any difference in performance from any of the other top countries. Also had a couple of mediocre performances. That's why I was wondering. Just seemed like it was really hit and miss in BA (based on the postings on the BA board) and I've never had a bad experience in BKK in the last 6 years. Could just be luck, but have not had the urge to fix what ain't broke. Thanks for your input though. I may make the stop in BA, during one of my West Coast ventures. Thanks!

Dickhead
01-23-03, 23:28
Originally posted by WORDUP
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.... Now this is the kind of report a MAN can use. Brotha, you get it. If you get a chance, I would like to read the extended version report, of your list. Sounds like you have a "REPORT" that the Brotha's of the WSG need to READ .

....... I WILL BE CHECKING BACK LATER FOR YOUR REPORT, and I will be alerting the Brotha's to look for your reports.


.... (((( WORD )))) ....

Word, I am strictly white bread but I did post an extensive report in the Buenos Aires section recently (day by day). I've also posted in Costa Rica, Mexico (Puerto Vallarta), Australia, and The Netherlands within I think the past year or two.

HOWEVER and unfortunately, I don't think they too much favor the brothers in Argentina. I actually stopped dating one chick down there because of some racist shit she kept saying and I heard some more anti-black crap later as well. They are also prejudiced against the indigenous people (i.e., "Indians") and in fact use the term "indio" or "india" as a synonym for stupid.

All I can do about this is apologize. From my experience, the brothers will do a bit better in some other places besides my favorite, Argentina. I have heard and been told that black is a very popular color in Australia. That is good because the sun there fried my narrow pink ass to a crisp and all y'all might be able to deal with that a bit better!

Peace,

Dick

Dickhead
01-24-03, 01:02
Originally posted by Rastaman
Dickhead,

I'm a brotha...and I have been going to Buenos Aires since '91...I had to turn away 'hotties'...When I go to Black or Playwomen the girlz approach me...the same thing applies to regular clubs, discos & bars in BA....

I'm sure there are racist girlz in BA...but I am so busy with the 'hotties' that I don't notice them :)

Good. Glad to hear it.

Phil
01-29-03, 19:27
Yeah I'm a black dude (a handsome one at that ha, ha) and I went to Buenos Aires expecting a lot of "I hate black people" attitudes. I just figured if they hate me, they hate me. But I didn't run into anything stupid. I did get a lot of stares because I hooked up with a girl off of Amigos.com and when we went out people really looked. The first internet girl I met was named Sandy; I see that she is really popular on the boards. When I first talked to her on the phone I told her I was a black dude basically asking if she had a problem with that. She was like of course not and moved on to coming to my hotel. I think that what has happened there is that some people will say one thing to a white person and turn around and do another when it comes to money. The same white woman there will say oh "I hate black people", and turn around a suck a black man's dick if the money is right. Also for a lot of the women who hate black guys, that changes when the economy goes all to hell and you can't even eat a decent meal. I actually think it's funny. I've met black women that hate black men, who will only date white men so you never know. Argentina is off the hook when it comes to cheap, quick pussy though. The only thing that I didn't like (which being a black man might explain) is that the women were not thick enough for me. I don't like thin chicks at ALL, and I had a hard time finding thick women there. Even in Rio I kept meeting all of these thin chicks. For example, I read somewhere on WSG about black women in North America and black women in South America came from different regions of Africa and that is why their shapes are a little different. I don't know but I've had a hard time finding the voluptious, thick hipped, fat ass women in either city. I've had a couple but not many. So that is my complaint more than anything. That is why I don't like Asian women too much. I don't care about skin color or racial makeup I just need fat titties and a fat ass. Peace.

Darkseid
01-29-03, 21:00
phil, you might find thick black women in germany and holland because europe imports women from all over the world. i don't really like thick women but i saw an entire block of them in the red light district in amsterdam which is the block near the old church. they also tend to be aggressive because there is less of a market for the thick women there than thin women but they are still made available because holland understands that some guys do like them.
dominican republic also has a good mix of thick and thin women. in fact my black travel companion likes thick booties and boobies while i prefer thin women. we both found our respective tastes in women in dominican republic and europe. he was disappointed in our trip to brazil and thailand because brazillian and thai chicks tend to be thinner.
never go to las vegas for thick women! although there are thick women a plenty, they have bad attitudes, mechanical sex, and charge five times the amount of money.
as far as the hate situation goes in south america, it's probably peer pressure but they have a deep down curiosity for cocks from other countries. if they really hate you, they don't get violent about it like they do here in america. they just leave you alone unless you offer them money to have sex with you. in america, i was attacked so many times just for being chinese. a black girl who was a racist even sent his boyfriend and his 8 groupies (2 hispanics, one token white guy, and five other black guys) to attack me on the subway just because i'm chinese (they obviously hate asians because there were no asians among them)!! i didn't even provoke the fight and i was just sitting there minding my own business but the bitchy girl sent the 9 guys to approach me and start throwing things at me. i then found myself fighting 9 people at once and i came out of the fight with a few bruises. it would have been worse if i didn't know martial arts to hold them off until the cops showed up. i travel to brazil many times and stay for 2 weeks to a month and never gotten into this situation, even in the poor areas called the fevelas which are reputed to be the most dangerous parts of brazil. i bet you probably got into a few brawls yourself just for being black because that is the violent mentality of this country when it comes to racism.

KnickFan
01-30-03, 01:19
Phil,

I'm a little suprised about brazil. Aren't the known for their azzes. Maybe it's a regional thing. So what are the top countries for "thick " women?

1. D.R.?

2. Nigeria?

Dick Johnson
01-30-03, 08:54
9 vs. 1, what a bunch of pussies.

WordUp
01-30-03, 11:59
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HEY D.H. ....

>>>> Excuse me if I find it hard to call you by your user name, but for me it is, so D.H. will have to do.

>>>> .... I dig your post, and I appreicate the detail, and the right to the point nature of them.

.... Well Arengtina is NOT the place to be for anyone, other than the KKK. Thanks for the heads up. I can't deal with Racist of anykind, especially when it is a part of the culture .... much like in Japan.


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Originally posted by Dickhead
Word, I am strictly white bread but I did post an extensive report in the Buenos Aires section recently (day by day). I've also posted in Costa Rica, Mexico (Puerto Vallarta), Australia, and The Netherlands within I think the past year or two.

HOWEVER and unfortunately, I don't think they too much favor the brothers in Argentina. I actually stopped dating one chick down there because of some racist shit she kept saying and I heard some more anti-black crap later as well. They are also prejudiced against the indigenous people (i.e., "Indians") and in fact use the term "indio" or "india" as a synonym for stupid.

All I can do about this is apologize. From my experience, the brothers will do a bit better in some other places besides my favorite, Argentina. I have heard and been told that black is a very popular color in Australia. That is good because the sun there fried my narrow pink ass to a crisp and all y'all might be able to deal with that a bit better!

Peace,

Dick

Rubber Nursey
01-30-03, 13:55
Originally posted by Dickhead
I have heard and been told that black is a very popular color in Australia.

What can I say? HELL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! :)

MeatMan
01-31-03, 19:41
originally posted by darkseid
phil, you might find thick black women in germany and holland because europe imports women from all over the world. i don't really like thick women but i saw an entire block of them in the red light district in amsterdam which is the block near the old church. they also tend to be aggressive because there is less of a market for the thick women there than thin women but they are still made available because holland understands that some guys do like them.
dominican republic also has a good mix of thick and thin women. in fact my black travel companion likes thick booties and boobies while i prefer thin women. we both found our respective tastes in women in dominican republic and europe. he was disappointed in our trip to brazil and thailand because brazillian and thai chicks tend to be thinner.
never go to las vegas for thick women! although there are thick women a plenty, they have bad attitudes, mechanical sex, and charge five times the amount of money.
as far as the hate situation goes in south america, it's probably peer pressure but they have a deep down curiosity for cocks from other countries. if they really hate you, they don't get violent about it like they do here in america. they just leave you alone unless you offer them money to have sex with you. in america, i was attacked so many times just for being chinese. a black girl who was a racist even sent his boyfriend and his 8 groupies (2 hispanics, one token white guy, and five other black guys) to attack me on the subway just because i'm chinese (they obviously hate asians because there were no asians among them)!! i didn't even provoke the fight and i was just sitting there minding my own business but the bitchy girl sent the 9 guys to approach me and start throwing things at me. i then found myself fighting 9 people at once and i came out of the fight with a few bruises. it would have been worse if i didn't know martial arts to hold them off until the cops showed up. i travel to brazil many times and stay for 2 weeks to a month and never gotten into this situation, even in the poor areas called the fevelas which are reputed to be the most dangerous parts of brazil. i bet you probably got into a few brawls yourself just for being black because that is the violent mentality of this country when it comes to racism.


sad to read about your 9 to1 situation darkseid...how long ago did that happen?all i can say is people who do that are just a bunch of fucking cowards. stay strong man!

Darkseid
01-31-03, 20:15
This 9 to 1 situation happened last year on the subway in Brooklyn while I was on my way home from work. It seems that if each of them were alone they would not do a thing because by themselves, they know they are weak but in a huge group like that they think they can get away with throwing things at people and making racial slurs at them.

Incaroca
02-01-03, 02:04
Latina girls are the best!!!
Yo can find a variety and a mixture of races, blondes, brunnettes, mestizas, indians, black, etc....
Peru has most of that kind of girls, but mostly are mestizas or indians. Prices are chep (in some cases extremely cheap!), and the country is pretty safe and touristic.
Argentina is also a good country, and actually, with the crises, prices has fallen down! But the girls are normally of european origin, so there are less variety of them.
If you like black girls with huge bottoms, you have to go to cuba or DR!!

In Spain there are also a great variety! And now (last stadistics!) there are over 300.000 pros working!! I think is the best westerner country o find variety!! A lot of colombianas, brazilians, and east europe girls are working in different huges clubs!!

Darkseid
02-01-03, 06:28
Incaroca, I agree with you 100%. Latina women are the best lovers on the planet. Forget Asian women. They are amateurs compared to Latina women. Even European women are better than Asian women (except Phillipinas but Phillipinas are part Latina in origin as well. I guess that's how they became so good at lovemaking over the rest of the Asians.) However, the WORST of the lovers are definitely American women, hands down. In fact they have so little sex that they don't know what to do in bed.

PurpleNGold
02-20-03, 09:57
Okay, Latina vs. Asian? I've been with many of both, and have had good and bad experiences with both. The best sexual partner I've ever had was Chinese. She was into experimentation so I got to try some of the wackiest shit I fantasized about. Best thing was, she was not a pro, I shoot blanks, and I was her first, so, since there were no diseases to worry about, there was no need for a translator :-)

I will admit, that, since I was very young, I have been attracted to asian women more than any one else. Currently I'm on a Thai trip due to a recent, excellent vacation.

BTW, do a video search on Kazaa for 'alayla'. My vote for best Women for STR goes to whatever ethnicity the two chicks in that video are.

Lion
04-13-03, 10:28
Although I think it really depends on the girl and the relationship between the 2 of you, I can agree with the poster who like Chinese the best.

I knew one Chinese who could squeeze you with her pussy so hard that your nuts would fall off, and she could keep doing it over and over.

I've been searching for that ever since, but it must be a physical skill not related to race or ethnicity.

Loser
04-15-03, 16:51
I guess, its more to do with, the grass is greener on the other side, everywhere, we go we can find the contrast in charector, its not definetely with perticular place but with individual women and how we treat them, its more to do with money. South American and Asian women, have more basic needs to fulfill than American or European women. It will be hard to get an American women with same trick and ease than to get an Asian women. It is only the money difference I feel which makes it, I have read in WSG how an Asian women come to America and within a month her outlook is changed. Its money money money, not idealism or anything.

Corndog
05-09-03, 21:59
I would go with Latinas. They fuck like bunnies over and over. When I am in Honduras with a pro. After I have shot my wad they want to go again.

William Hauger
05-14-03, 00:25
Hello

Latin girls rule, they are in in a class of their own.

They have a better attitude and looks, if you prefer dark or brunettes.

They work hard for the money and are more passionate.

I have tried most nationalities several times, but nobody is better than the girls from South America.

William

JustGotBack
05-24-03, 08:16
While I'm a frequent visitor to South America. I've been to Argentina 6 times in the last year. I would only give it maybe a 4 on my list. The top, goes to someplace that hardly anyone ever talks about. I'd prefer to keep it that way since it hasn't been overrun yet. But for beauty, attitude, quantity and value I rate Scotland as my number one by a long shot. But it's only good if you like blondes and the western standard of beauty, tall thin with big tits.

Paddy
05-24-03, 21:41
Just got back,

I agree. I honestly thought that I was about the only one on the WSG to have discovered Scotland so far and I've only been to Edinburgh and their famous saunas (e.g. London Street, Blair Street, etc.) I've heard that Glasgow is even better in terms of action. Where have you been and what would you recommend in terms of cities, establishments, etc.??? Am planning a return trip in the fall.

I also like Scotland as a great place to travel in addition to the SW's. The cities, culture, music, history and general friendliness of the people is world class IMHO.

I also believe that we don't have to worry about the place being overwhelmed with punters. For some reason, Scotland just doesn't seem to catch on. I also go to Prague a lot and would have to rate Edinburgh very close to it in terms of SW's, culture and old world ambience.

Thanks for your observations. I thought that I was the only one on the WSG to have noticed the place.

OwnaFord1994
07-02-03, 23:35
Scottish women? I think their trade mark is red hairs. Apart from that they do looked like Scandinavians. That's not common but I did saw a very blond Scandinavians waitressing in a Glasgow seafood restaurant. I guess she must be local, otherwise why go there? Her hair color may be natural. British girls don't dye their hairs that much, at least not obviously Scandinavian blond color. A lot have dark hairs. Need some expert here.

English girls are taller in the south. But still the Scots are tall. Slimmer in the cold north.

The economy is never good there. Those who can go down south. Those who can't at least go to Edinburgh or Glasgow. The two major urban centers. A lot of drugs and SW. Glasgow at the west coast is worse. But with some welfare the price will never be like central/eastern europe.

Rendorseg
07-08-03, 15:46
Best FSU place to visit from base in Switzerland?
- Hi guys - I will be in Swizterland later in the month and while I hear that it is a beautiful place, I'll be there for 4 days, there are other nice Euro places also within a 1-3 hour (@$300) flight away for maybe 4 days also.
I'm thinking of places like Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Belarus, etc. Been to Hungary before, Prague sounds nice but kind of pricey, how about Odessa? So, some place cheap, nice, not so touristy, slightly exotic, with yes lovely ladies....
Yes, this is a random request but I'd be happy to learn of some of your secret/favorite places out there....
Thanks!

ManonsanBoy
07-31-03, 22:53
I have hunted in Thailand, Philipines, Mayaysia, Indonesia, Las Vagas, Reno, LA, Prague, Budapest, Australia, NZ, Hong Kong, Macau and China. Without doubt, southern China at the moment is the greatest show. The women are prettier than Thais and they are not all that more expensive. The worst is Budapest.

However, it is harder to fill in the non F****** times than compared to Thailand for example.

Paddy
08-01-03, 04:48
Manonsonboy,

Yes, I agree with your assessment of Budapest. The place was one huge rip-off it seemed and all of the establishments were run by the Russian Mafia. Girls hustling you for $100 per drink and if you object a couple of 300 lb. goons show-up all of a sudden. Had some success with lobby girls in hotels but they wanted a lot of money. Also, English is not real common there and communicating with the girls was problematic.

At the other end of the spectrum, I'd have to recommend Edinburgh Scotland. Had a great time with SW's and non-pros alike. Great city too.

ManonsanBoy
08-01-03, 21:38
Paddy

Funnily, I was in Edinburgh recently but did not get the chance to hunt. Where did you do it?

Paddy
08-02-03, 04:06
Manonsanboy,

There are many places in Edinburgh. You can check them out on *********.com. The best places are Blair Street Sauna, London Street Sauna and Scorpio Sauna. BTW, BBBJ's are the norm in Edinburgh.

Also had a great time going to the pubs and striking up conversations with the local girls. The liked my American "accent" and were very curious about Yanks.

CityDude
08-06-03, 10:08
Originally posted by manonsanboy
......Macau and China. Without doubt, southern China at the moment is the greatest show. The women are prettier than Thais and they are not all that more expensive. The worst is Budapest.

However, it is harder to fill in the non F****** times than compared to Thailand for example.

I'd say MAC is better because during non-puntering time, one can hang out in the Casinos :) a hidden gem is Sofia,Bulgaria. Need to have a local punter guide you around if one does not know russian or bulgarian.

Pathologic
10-30-03, 10:13
I'm used to Philippines, Cambodia and Thailand. What can you recommend for a similar experience that's close to the UK?

Thanks.

Rabo Verde
11-15-03, 08:17
Brazil, Argentina, Panama, Thailand.
Anybody been all over Eastern Europe who can give the best EE destination?

James D 2004
11-18-03, 02:25
This is a comment in reply to Brandon, not generally true for everybody. First you have to know yourself. If you like the western standard of beauty, you narrowed down your destinations a lot. However, shouldn't everyone try at least the 'one night in Bangkok' experience. It could be life altering and there's a song for it.

If you can mingle with the backpacking crowd, some do that up to late 30's, you should try a bit of that too. There are a lot of Australians (and others) in say Bali. You can live cheap there for long and you can get the Indonesians girls as well as the Australians for free, or a few cigarettes. If you do a bus tour in Europe, you can sample the girls and get some Australians for free. It could be fun. I had Israeli girl right out of army training camp. An Australian catholic girl who didn't miss any chance to do things that she wouldn't do back home, even when her girl friend is on the other twin bed. Northern European girls, who likes black hair, always think that you treat them too well, but whatever you do in bed it would be boring to them. And quite a few of all nationalities venture into the Thai, Burma (old name), Chinese border where you can afford virgins. And I don't know exactly why all tickets to India was sold out. Northern Indian girls are very pale while Sicilian girls are rather dark in comparison.

The other is your budget. If I were loaded I would go to Seoul, where the art of loving making is still very much alive. But I don't. Australia won't be cheap. London probably better with more choices, including Australians, Eastern Europeans and vast numbers of British girls.

If you are not that adventurous and price is your concern, the usual choice is Bangkok and Argentina. I don't think your priority is Thais so Argentina is likely your choice. Whatever you do you have to do some research. Compare price of pussy and living expenses. WSG is a good source but be sure to compare apple with apple. The US state department or CIA has interesting fact sheets about every country. Argentina is 85% Spanish and Italian decedents. Indeed Latin American is similar with varying percentages. However, factor in that the other 15% is more likely that you will encounter if you go for bargain basement, and that a lot of working girls are from neighboring countries.

Eggsalad
11-19-03, 08:18
Thank you Tall,

I AM looking for western standard beauty. I have been to Thailand. I like the prices and some of the women but not the majority. I'm looking for a place to find caucasians. I know Australia has many asians but still many white girls. My budget is a large concern but not the biggest concern. I'm not considering Argentina. So between Australia and Europe, where would you go? Where does the American dollar go the furthest?

James D 2004
11-21-03, 00:30
The trick is to know where the some that you want and the others that you don't. In BKK, even if you are blind you can ask anyone who offers their guide service for a 'good' girlfriend. In Europe it would be more difficult to get a good price for the type of girls you want without doing research. Price is always best in Eastern Europe, Russia, Prague and Moscow, if you know how to avoid the tourist traps. Plenty of other places but these two are the easy ones if you are not that adventurous.

Personally I don't have any one good reason to go to Australia. For anyone that who don't want to be tourist, London is the best. Enough variety of people on the streets in central London that you will feel at home. Unlimited number of girls to choose from. Internet is a reasonable hunting ground with lots of reviews but only tip of the iceberg and you don't get the best price online. Being in Europe, London has also a lot of Eastern European girls to choose from at a lower price.

Price is not all but actually it is for most people. To give you some idea. In London you get an attractive native girl for US$200 an hour. If you are lucky, include passionate kiss and orgasm. More model looks British can cost you like $500 via the internet, who could do less. Buenos Aires US $50 (to less than $100 an hour), $200 over night, for attractive club girls. Roughly the same for a so so girl from china in Hong Kong via the internet - no way you can do overnight as these girls are high volume girls. Prague girls $600 to $700 over night internet price. For any girls if you tip them 20% to 50% they will go all out for you. The tip in some places can get you a model in another. And I don't know how long is your long trip.

Tone
01-05-04, 20:27
I would have to agree with you Paddy. Although I have lived in Edinburgh all my life, I have travelled most of the UK and you just cant get better.

I especially recommended are Blair Street, New Town and Scorpio.

London Street is popular almost universally but I can't say I like it myself.

Blair street however always seem to produce one total SUPERSTAR every couple of years and I have to say its been my privelige to have known more than one.

New town has always been dependable and the safe choice as long as theres a local lass on but to be honest you cant ever go too far wrong here.

Prague is however on my list of places I need to visit.

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Tootsie Pop
01-07-04, 08:39
What country have you seen that has the best success for getting anal action?

Thanks

Tootsie Pop
01-07-04, 08:45
What country have you seen that has the best success for getting anal action?

Also can you listed what countries you have visited?

Thanks

James D 2004
01-08-04, 21:48
Best success will be in cultures where anal is part of the normal sex. That will not be in the far east or south east Asia. Either these girls aren't even skilled in oral, or they are so well trained that there are enough dazzling variety that you don't need another entrance. With mussle control it doesn't make a difference where you are, except for the sight of it.

My guess will be India, Egypt, and Pakistan, where the former two have more tourist friendly or back packing friendly cities.

I don't know about the culture but Latin America seemed to be the sure thing. In BA, Argentina, all the girls except for the club girls would turn around when asked, with or without advanced agreement. Half the club girls would do it.

CityDude
01-10-04, 12:54
"My guess will be India, Egypt, and Pakistan, where the former two have more tourist friendly or back packing friendly cities."

It is a personal thing, not a cultural thing. Many in EZE,GIG have been Greek friendly than in the countries you mention :) Having said that, MAC is a good place to be.

James D 2004
01-10-04, 20:10
Culture has something to do with what the majority of people do or don't.

Elmo
01-12-04, 06:46
While mongering at Campo in Curacao, I met a couple of guys who worked on an oil tanker - delivering oil, gas and jet fuel throughout the Carribean - various island nations, Panama, Columbia, Venezuela, Jamaica, DR, Cuba, etc. When in port, they would monger like crazy for 2-3 days. They all agreed that Cuba was the best place to monger on their travels around the Carribean. They said that when they would come into port in Cuba, everyone would throw either themselves or their wives/daughters at them for some cash.

One guy said that even the port director offered up his cute early 20s-something daughter to him - the three of them went back to their house, he did a couple of shots with the port director/dad in the kitchen, and then banged the heck out of his daughter on their bed. Don't remember what he paid, but whatever it was, it was more than the port director made in a month (maybe $30-50). Great story though.

I have never been there. I have heard all about the asian scene too (Thai, Phil, HK, etc), but never been there either. But I have been to Brazil and told them I thought it would blow Cuba away. (But having seen some of the photos in the Cuba gallery, I am not so sure now). Also, I want to give BA a try some time. But, how many of the hotties in BA are actually imports from southern Brazil? After all, southern Brazil was settled mostly by immigrants from Italy, Germany, Spain, and eastern Europe. And if the gals don't head to Rio or SP to seek fame and fortune, do they hit BA instead?

Tootsie Pop
01-14-04, 09:07
Thanks for the responds guys. However I don't undestand what's MAC, EZY, or Gig means. I am thinking of going either SouthAmerica or the Russian states. Between the two locations what would you say is the better of the two for anal sex?

PS: The Russian women are all like Playboys models. However if performance isn't up to par it's meaningless.

Phil
01-21-04, 19:11
If you want anal go to Brazil. Down there it's considered normal sex. Nothing special.

James D 2004
01-23-04, 20:19
EZE is Burenos Airs airport, GIG Rio, Brazil. MAC isn't an airport that I checked. Could be Macau but there's no point if you are not a high roller that Vegas try hard to lure you from there. In Venetian I think there are 5 or more Chinese cable channels.

SeniorCitizen
01-24-04, 14:43
For what it is worth MAC is Macon Georgia (U.S.) which is not high on my list of mongering opportunities.

Rabo Verde
02-06-04, 14:50
Brazil or Argentina? Hmmm, easy decision. DO BOTH!


Go to www.varig.com, click AMERICAS, INTERNET FARES, and BUENOS AIRES, and you can get a triangle fare from NY, LA or MIAMI to BA with a free stopover in RIO or SP, for about the same price most people pay for one or the other. Great airline, safe, clean, on time, in general.

I have been both places many times and frankly it's a tossup, unless you like black and mixed race girls, in which case you must go to Rio. Argentina is very caucasian. Brazilians are also more open-minded if you are looking for something kinky.

Cajun Muscle
02-17-04, 20:18
I would like to visit either central or south America in late March or April and would like to ask you guys which country would fit my list of needs. I have read a lot of good things on this form about Argentina, Costa Rica and Peru but the exchange rate for these countries dont seem to be nearly as good as Columbia or Chile. I would also like to know the best web sites to get the lowest airfares to central,south America from the western US.

1. A country that has hot beautiful working girls that are very cheap(20-50 dollars all day or all night action)
2. One in which the ladies(both working and regular ladies)are crazy for white American men for GFE.One in which it is very easy to get dates at bars,malls,discos,coffee shops etc.
3. The country that has the best airfares from western US.
4. Cheap lodging.

This is a great form and you guys have given me a lot of very useful info.Thanks for all the great help you guys give!

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CBGBConnisur
02-18-04, 18:41
Brazil and Argentina are two of the best places in the world to meet women. You'll do well in both. Women in both countries are beautiful although I have heard Brazilian women tend to be more sexual than Argentinian ladies.

Dunderhead
05-16-04, 21:04
For Short Term, nothing beats China.

Ndara
05-22-04, 14:46
best ST places (so far. I'll leave for Colombia, Equador and Peru in a few days for the first time...)
1)Kenya. love their looks, so many girls available, many good places to hunt and it is free or very cheap
2)Cambodia. abundance of extremely cheap good looking girls. And both cambodians and vietnamese to choose from
3)Thailand, although it is getting worse now year by year
4)mozambique, very cute women
5)ethiopia. possibly the most gorgeous women in the world but the girls are quite lame in bed and addis is not the nightlife capital of the world
6)Philippines, best looking of the south east asian women.
7)Russia. milky white skin and so cute faces. but it is too expensive

But I guess after a few months in South America the above list will look somewhat different

Organicgrowth
05-31-04, 15:18
CBGBConnisur,


Brazil and Argentina are two of the best places in the world to meet women. You'll do well in both. Women in both countries are beautiful although I have heard Brazilian women tend to be more sexual than Argentinian ladies.

You are right about that, I totally agree.

I have tried a number of Brazilian chicas and without exception they were amongst the best sessions I have had. If trying anal was a “test”, then 90% of my Brazilian chicas passed compared to 45% non-Brazilian.

Regards, Havanaman

CBGBConnisur
05-31-04, 17:35
Personally speaking Carneval is the best time to visit Brazil, especially Rio, any single man who goes there during Carneval will never return the same. Its simply that amazing. Also Sao Paulo is another excellent city to visit. There are a few places in the South that have a lot of blondes.

MagicTouch
06-16-04, 16:47
Gentlemen,

I've been enjoying girls in 4 continents (missing Oceania so far) and here are my conclusions

Eastern Europe: definitely the worldwide top in terms of beauty. Ukraine, Russia, Romania, Bulgaria, former Czechoslovakia, Poland, former Yugoslavia ... simply unbelievable. Stunning beauty combined with the sexiest attitude. Men fall in love like flies. Long legs, high butts, slim bodies, generous tits, perfect faces, dream-lips and mouths... all in one, with many of them! Excellent oral skills as a general rule, although they tend to be somehow passive when they are being fucked. Their men are zero, rude, rough, no least dating skills, up to vodka all the time, and that's definitely an advantage for ... the others!. Add to the pros their high degree of education and their talent for languages. The cons? They tend to be too materialistic. Everything - especially sex and love - is evaluated in terms of cash. A prospective western passport is in the number of their most genuine motivations. I can understand that after their growing up in the squallor of communism, but to Westerners it is often beyond the acceptable level of decency. Moreover, their idea of faithfullness is not the one common in many countries. This gives rise to a terrific percentage of divorces. Pairs western man + eastern girl don't work in the long term. But for STR, wow, nothing better available.

Asia: they are mostly just cute, not really stunning, they can't compete in terms of beauty with EE, but they overweight it through their unique dedication to the man and his pleasure. They are unbeatable in terms of sex technicalities - especially the Chinese. Remember that Wally Simpson was educated in a Hong Kong brothel, that's why the poor king got really crazy with her and ultimately gave up for her nothing but the UK crown ;-) Moreover, we Westerners have a "gift" that happens to be oversized compared to the one available with the local men ;-) and of course this is a plus they do definitely appreciate. They are easy and quick to get wet, easy to get orgasms, even pros, have a very sweet attitude, they can be your little sex slave and feel happy for the attention you give them!! The cons? Very different languages, educations, cultures, mentalities, very hard to understand each other, wonder if it's really an issue within a STR frame ...

Latin America: a combination of EE and Asia, somewhere in the middle. Girls are almost as beautiful as in EE and almost as dedicated to the man as in Asia. Northern Latin America (from Mexico down to Bolivia) is creole and as such the perfect melting pot of races, colors, etc, giving rise to a battery of Miss Universe-like goddesses, especially in Venezuela, but also in Brasil, Honduras, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba of course. Girls are in general beautiful, poor, hot and passionate, without being as maniacally materialistic as in EE. Just provide them with the needful to satisfy their basic needs and they'll be happy, unlike EE where luxury is actively wished and looked for. This makes the Latinas more genuine. The motivation behind their going with you can be 70% pleasure and 30% need, in EE it may easily be reverse. In bed they are hottest and more passionate, although they don't reach the technical sophistication of some Chinese. They will overweight it through the pure strength of their passion. Southern Latin America (Chile, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay) is white caucasian, so basically a variation of the show available in Europe. Beauty level is high, availability is also high, but IMHO nothing to really die for. The cons? the general "reliability" of people in these countries is not the highest, it can be disturbing after a while.

Conclusion: go for EE-girls if you want the top of the beauty, go to China if you want the top of the dedication, go to Latin America if you want a combination of both (90% of the former + 90% of the latter)

As to the areas not covered:

Western Europe/USA: dramatically conditioned by an excess of emancipation. Most women have more teeth between their legs than in their mouth. The conservative catholic mentality in many countries makes the scene even poorer.

Islamic countries: forget-it-for-the-sake-of-your-health!!!!

Central Asia: Stunning beauties, but in many cases the above applies. Kazakhstan is a surprising exception, no religion bullshit and a melting pot of Asian/Russian features mixed in different degrees of combination resulting in real stunners.

Lover Boy
06-16-04, 18:52
MagicTouch,
Every thing well said !!

except
Islamic countries: forget-it-for-the-sake-of-your-health!!!!

YOU NEED TO CHECK OUT THE MORROCO SECTION.

check this report added by

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John Auro
Regular Member
Reports: 21

John A

I just was going to leave my garden. I small gate leading to the sidewalk. She strolled along the sidewalk towards me. Some books in the hand pretending to be a student. I smiled at her, gave her a sign to enter the gate? Some minutes later she sucked my prick on the sofa-corner.

5 or 10 bucks was gift (cadeau).

In Morocco you don't talk about the money- you just hand her something over under the excuse: "That's for the taxi- pour le taxi..."
_______________________________

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Macgoo
06-21-04, 03:48
Loverboy,

I recently noticed your comments here. Now, I recommend you take another visit to the Morocco section; interesting developments!

Ez

MagicTouch
06-21-04, 09:08
Well for the sake of synthesis I gathered all islamic countries into one only group - the forget-it group, I am aware that it is indeed a rough generalization.
We may distringuish between hard-islamic countries and soft-islamic countries, among the former definitely Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kuwait and others, among the latter Northern Africa, Turkey, Indonesia, that benefit from centuries of closer exposure to Europe (France, UK, Netherlands) and ultimately got somehow more "secolarized" over time.
I am aware that girls in Morocco or Tunisia can be veeery hot, same in Turkey, but it is a fact that the odds of getting serious troubles there (with local men, policemen, etc) is dramatically higher than everywhere else.
They are also known to be extremely dedicated to their husbands, so if you marry them you can be touching colea Iovis (little quiz for those literate in Latin and familiar with Petronius's Satyricon) every night from happiness, but we are talking about STR here ... Of course IF (1) you happen to be in that country, IF (2) you meet a girl available to suck your friend, IF (3) you feel the environment is safe enough, THEN it can be an excellent experience ... but going there just for the purpose, is not maybe the most brilliant of the ideas.

Gobi Nomad
06-29-04, 05:01
I would have to say that Mongolian women are some of the best women I have found for STR. There are a number of Mongolian women working in Beijing -- they can be found at Maggies Bar or at Hard Rock Cafe, and a few other places. Most of them speak decent English, they love sex and are not as "professional" or materialistic as many of the Chinese. GFEs are much more common among Mongolian ladies than with Chinese, in my humble opinion. Lots of Mongolian ladies also availabe in Mongolia itself.

Domino
06-29-04, 06:07
Gents

I hope I am putting this in the right section. I will be back in Thailand shortly but am fed up of it and of the sad guys who post on the Thai photo section:(

I will have about a month (another one, poor loser me:)) free during September/October and I am thinking of trying somewhere new or at least different. Here are the knockout criteria:
1 reasonably accessible from East Asia.
2. Excludes Oceania, West Europe. USA, Canada.
3. Exclude all Muslim countries (I don't want to make a guest TV appearance getting my head chopped off; no offense meant here but Muslim countries are off the menu long term)
4. No rainy season countries.
5. Relatively cheap. Women must speak English and/or Spanish and be fuckable.

Current favourites:

a. Carribean: hot favourite.
b. India (monsoon?).
c. Romania(?)
d. Argentina a remote possibility: it is a long long way

All help appreciated and reciprocated.

James D 2004
06-29-04, 06:24
Talking about Muslim countries, how about Egypt? From my Arab friends they like the olive skins of the Egyptian girls. There is a joke about "Come to Cairo, come to see you sons and daughters". Meaning that there's is a well established sex industry there. They are used to tourists many times over than say Turkey and the neighbouring countries.

MagicTouch
06-29-04, 08:58
Domino,

Two juwels easily accessible from East Asia would be Kazakhstan and Ukraine, unfortunately no chance without a visa. Ukraine is packed with the most beautiful women in the world IMHO, and Kazakhstan is a stunning melting pot of Asian and Russian features mixed together, resulting in breathtaking beauties.

Romania is definitely a hit, but the real juwel in Eastern Europe would be Estonia.

Carribean is top of the top for maybe 40% of the men worldwide, but would you define it as easily accessible from East Asia?? If you do, go to Venezuela, skip Caracas and focus on Valencia, you'll love me for this tip.

Domino
06-29-04, 13:20
The reports on Kazakhstan have been pretty thin. Plus, it is a looong way from anywhere, th graveyard excepted, if they don't like me. Much the same applies to Ukraine. Estonia would be nice but only if you like the Nordic look and relatively high prices.

Indonesia looks promising weather and price wise but politically it is very volatile.

Venezuela: beautiful chicks and trigger itchy guys.

Jamaica: Beautiful chicks and Yardie gangsters.

Problems:( Problems:( Problemos;)

Freeler
06-29-04, 18:00
Domino,

"Estonia would be nice but only if you like the Nordic look and relatively high prices."

I've been to Estionia - of course:)!
In my report I gave the people of Estonia 5 unsmileys. I did not even bother to find any women. Yes, it was that bad.
Tallinn is a beautiful town and ok to spend a couple of days in as a short break from Helsinki.
And then get the hell back to Helsinki!

Really, almost everything I know about Ukraine is from WW2 movies. The word Ukraine gives me visions of mud, mud and more mud.
Still, I had a Ukrainian gf once. She had the smoothest shaven legs EVER! But she wanted to get married after 3 weeks or so. I told her she could get married anytime. But not to me:D.

Indonesia must be one of the biggest and cheapest *****houses on this beautiful planet of ours. I just don't like the food...

Domino
06-29-04, 18:22
Freeler: You are as scary as ever. Finnish prices:(; Indonesian food:(
I agree with you about Ukraine (apparently they get pissed off if you call it The Ukraine and not Ukraine). Mud, mud, mud and erernal isolation, like the Antarctic.
So what is your verdict. And don't say Thailand as it will only [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) sad old SexReview off if I start playing in his sandbox. (Like the junior (sic) members, I don't know my place). Check out Stinky's reports btw. He's a funny guy (even if he uses the f word a lot) but SexReview has probably scared him off.

As it happens, it might just end up being Thailand again. I have found something else to do. Pussies, pizzas and something else:)

I checked out Belguel. Jackson is good that way.

I would also like to get back to Latin America but such a distance for a bit of pussy

Freeler
06-29-04, 20:44
Domino,

Indonesia.
If you can stand the food...

Domino
06-29-04, 20:59
Freeler: What about the human bonfires? What if I am the food? For Aceh, one needs a special pass that I will pass on. But I think Muslim areas will be hairy until Uncle Sam learns:(

Freeler
06-30-04, 05:02
Domino,

Stay on Java.
Some 200 mil people live there. Half of those are women. Half of those are fuckable. It will take half a year to fuck through just one kampung. At $2.50 a bonk max. Needless to say: the prices you see on the Indo board are bullshit.
No one cares about Aceh anyway.

Domino
06-30-04, 05:43
freeler: sexreview and his cronies only wanted me kicked off this site. you seem to want me kicked off the planet, if this warning is anything to go by;)
http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/front?pagename=openmarket%2fxcelerate%2fshowpage&c=page&cid=1007029390590&a=kcountryadvice&aid=1013618385558

this is a very good site btw for newbies like me. one of the pieces of advice hm's government gives on thailand is this:

"do not have sexual relations with anyone under the age of 18 years. thailand recognises such acts as [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)."

one wonders what sexreview and our other friends say about that.
http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/front?pagename=openmarket/xcelerate/showpage&c=page&cid=1020939623923&a=karticle&aid=1013618521401

Mike12
06-30-04, 10:21
Domino

The Dominican Republic sounds like a good spot for you. Gorgeous women with phat asses, big tetas, round faces, and lots of curves might be something different from what you are used to. The country is having an economic crisis so it is really cheap rite now. You can definitely get the bang for the buck. Safer than some other Carribean locations also. Try to get there before it is discovered as JetBlue just started service there and it may turn into another Puerto Rico.

Freeler
06-30-04, 15:11
just some remarks to the bs on the british site:

bring enough funds for your stay and your return. bank transfers take time and if you miss your return flight, you may have to purchase another ticket to get home. scottish and northern irish bank notes are not accepted in thailand.
--goes for any country

take care of your valuables at all times. do not leave them out of sight or leave them unattended unless you are sure that they are safe.
--what if you think they are safe but get stolen anyway?

be on your guard against pickpockets and bag snatchers as you would be in any busy tourist resort.
--goes for any country

take care of your passport at all times; theft of them is common. do not leave your passport as security when hiring a car or motor cycle.
--goes for any country

report any loss to the nearest police station.
--goes for any country

remember that roads are not as safe as in the uk.
--huh???

do not leave home without travel insurance, and ensure that it covers both medical treatment, including medical evacuation to the uk and unexpected losses/expenses (eg missing charter flight, losing passport, having cash and credit cards stolen).
--goes for any country

do not carry anything through customs for somebody else.
--goes for any country

never accept a drink or food from a stranger, they may be drugged.
--the stangers may be drugged???

do not have sexual relations with anyone under the age of 18 years. thailand recognises such acts as [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
--there you go!

do not use a guide who approaches you on the street, even if he appears to have genuine credentials. he will invariably be a tout.
--hahahahaha!!!!

freeler's addition:
do not go with strangers, specially women. you might get screwed.

El Aleman
07-01-04, 12:59
Domino:

If you are considering the Carribean, then you are willing to accept 12 hours flight from wherever you are in Asia to SFO or LAX, and then 5 to 7 more to your Carribean destination. Throw in 5 more hours beeing cramped together and served lousy food, and you end up in Buenos Aires with:

- some of the most stunning women on the planet
- some of the best food on the planet
- nice people to meet
- everybody speaks spanish (or at least something coming close)
- very reasonable prices for everything.

Read the Argentina section for more info.

El Alemán

Dickhead
07-01-04, 19:38
The only problem with Buenos Aires is that it is overrun with Dickheads.

Traveller22
07-11-04, 09:18
Magictouch,

Congratulations for your comment about Eastern European girls. Indeed the biggest trap is to have serious relationships with them as they are even more materialistic than beautiful. You are perfectly right too about their faithfulness. This word doesn't seem to be part of their vocabulary. In short their are just as you say the perfect match for STR. But even in this case my advise would be to take care of the money you spend with them.

I had many experiences with the EE(especially russians) but never been to Latin America /Spain and Asia.

You wrote a brillant synthesis but I just would like to know your personal preference between those 3 groups of girls. Many thanks in advance for your answer.

Undray
07-12-04, 03:59
Hey Guys,

Can anyone tell me the definitions of the slang words use in the forum?

Like, what is GFE, BJJJ, STR, DATY, etc...etc...

Yes Im a neebie, and I dont know all the slang.

Un

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MagicTouch
07-14-04, 11:52
Traveller 22

I think we generalize a little talking in terms of "EE girls" since Eastern Europe is a consolidation of very different countries, each with specific features. To compare Romanians with Russians will not make you very popular in Bucharest ;-)

I think we should be generous in judging their materialistic view of the world, love and sex, considering the terrific squallor communism brought in their lives for some 50-70 years ...
They are hungry of luxury now and use their beauty to get easier access to it. Know it and you'll be safe.

They are easy to accept the idea of getting married with you and maybe even faster to accept the idea of leaving you, especially as soon as they become aware of the favourable rules on divorce they would benefit from in Western countries.

They are not immersed in the conservative catholic mentality current in some Western countries, thus their understanding of the moral constraints in the field of love and marriage is by far much more relaxed than acceptable to most of us. Things can be done and undone very easily ITHO (in Their humble opinion)

My preference very much depends on the mood of the moment. If I need to feed my eyes and my visual phantasies I will go for EE, if I am in search of technically sophisticated sex I will go Asian, if I want passion and mad sex I will go Latin American.

Concretely, I am much more often in EE than everywhere else, so I pick 90% of my apples in EE. To give you a confidential information, Romania is the only place where I chose to keep a durable girl friend.

Read my latest report in the Moscow section, feel free to PM me, I'll be more than happy to share more ideas with you and why not, some trips

Indiana
07-17-04, 21:24
What countries would you guys recommend for finding very skinny chicks?

Dickhead
07-19-04, 04:43
Ethiopia and Eritrea. Rwanda should be good about now too.

Rabo Verde
07-19-04, 04:46
ROFL

The Spectre
07-19-04, 05:21
I have a question for you frequent world travelers:

When it comes to finding providers open to COF I have heard it is a lot harder to get in Latin Ametrica than Europe or here in the U.S. I have some European experience and the women were open to pretty much anything there. So is this fact or Urban Legend?

Sonidos
07-19-04, 05:44
Oh, don't forget Sudan.

Organicgrowth
08-01-04, 06:12
Undray,

All these terms and many more are covered in the Forum Abbreviations section in the menu.

Regards, Havanaman

Webcams
09-12-04, 17:48
I am starting to think we have way to many abbreviations for things.

Superstar II
09-19-04, 03:11
OK guys, where are the best countries for an endless stream of freelancers? I personally anm a little turned off by the escort services or brothels.

I've been to Cuba, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Spain, Ghana, Togo, Thailand and the Philippines. I have to say Cuba is by far the best with Philippines, Ghana and Togo in a distant sencond place. Cuba was just insane! I had to start making appointments with girls to my casa particular! I had so much sex, my dick became really sore. I came back to the United states and found myself walking into a grocery store or down the street expecting to hook up, then I realized...hey, this is the US, slim chance. Thailand was incredible but I found a girl on my first night and was with her my whole trip. I found Poland, Lithuania and Latvia very difficult, maybe because I am white and blend in with the locals. Any replies would be great. I want to get some ideas for my next wild trip!

Johan007
10-02-04, 11:41
Guys,

all I can say is this:

Dominican republic (DR)
Brasil
Peru (O yes)
Honduras
Colombia. (well this might be a challenge)

In 4 of the 5 above mentioned countries I have been.


OOO I fotget to mention...they are all LATINAS!! Learn spanish (or Portugese if you go to Brasil)and a whole world opens up for you.

I think that will be a little bit difficult with Thai or some strange bantu language in Afrika.....LOL



Johan

Ndara
10-27-04, 14:05
good countries:

Thailand
PI
Cambodia
Kenya
Uganda
Ghana
Mozambique
Colombia
Brazil
Peru
just to mention a few

Maddur
10-29-04, 21:31
What is good place to go during Christmas break (dec/23 to Jan / 1). Most good places like Buenos Aires get expensive and no chicas to boot.

Bladtinzu
11-27-04, 19:14
Good countries if money isn't a factor.
Iceland
Italy
Spain
Germany

For the more thrifty traveler.
Brazil
Columbia
Peru
Mexico
Cuba

Smut Villain
11-28-04, 06:09
Good choices, Bladtinzu (I can tell you from very personal experience that Mexico is an excellent choice, especially if you learn Spanish ;) )

But I can also tell you that Norway is an underestimated destination. It seems like everywhere you go there are blue-haired, blue-eyed Scandinavian godesses in that part of the world, and (unlike the U.S.) they are extremely approachable.

Trust me on that last part ;) !

CBGBConnisur
12-10-04, 18:51
For those who only speak English, Australia and NZ, are both excellent. Its easy to find women for short term fun. Long term relationships are another thing. The Queensland coast during the Australian summer(late November to January) is filled with women looking for fun.

In Europe language is an issue, although there are many people who speak English, few women I have met there understood enough to make a meaningful connection.

Rock Dog
12-11-04, 00:33
CBGB said this in his last post,

"In Europe language is an issue, although there are many people who speak English, few women I have met there understood enough to make a meaningful connection."

The key phrase being; a meaningful connection. Hey, I thought this forum was about the best women for STR? Who cares about a meaningful connection when you're looking to score once or twice and then head on?

Sometimes, a lack of english actually helps to cut through all the BS. The conversation goes straight along and lets you be up front about what the two of you want, instead of dancing all around the subject with innuendos, hints and remarks that could be taken different ways.

Just my own humble opinion,

Rock

CBGBConnisur
12-11-04, 19:48
When I meant "meaningful connection" I meant meaningful enough for them to spread their legs for you. Women in Europe tend to smile very readily. If they give you prolonged eye contact, its usually a good sign. European women tend to be "slow". I'm not saying that they're stupid, but getting through to a lot of them quickly can be difficult, especially if they don't understand English. Of course there are occasional obvious chics in the Eastern/Southern European countries are the easy ones. I got very lucky on one flight to Europe and was sandwiched between two 20 something Russian babes.

In terms of STR, an Australian beach town during November to January is a flesh parade. The Ozzie chics get down to business pretty quickly. A hairy backed sasquatch could pick up a blonde down under.

Rock Dog
12-11-04, 22:30
CBGB,

If she likes me enough for her to spread her legs for me, then I'd say that was pretty meaningful.

BTW, I hear what you're saying about Russian girls. Last summer, I noticed these 2 Russian women while I was waiting for a flight at Heathrow. They were both in their 30's and we are talking total milf action here. One of them noticed that I was noticing them. Imediately they began talking to each other and both of them kept on looking over my way.

I Figured "what the heck" so I them gave a little wave and they both waved back. For the next hour, we had the most pleasant conversation. They offered their phone number and addresses and said come see them sometime if I ever visit Petrograd (I think thats supposed to be St. Petersburg). This is something that you would never expect from women here.

I keep hearing all these good things about Aussie chicks. Have you actually been there and seen this for yourself? It almost seems unnatural that it could be so easy to score with hot young babes that way.

Rock

CBGBConnisur
12-12-04, 01:27
Australia is definitely worth a look, but it depends upon the area of the country you go to, the best place to pick up women without much fuss is southeast Queensland, the Brisbane-Gold Coast area is the best part of the country lifestyle wise. If you go to the Gold Coast during the Australian summer, it is packed with women. In terms of attitude Australian women are the most easy going I have met and are very open. You could pretty much go to any public place(pubs, shopping centers, hotels) and find some company.
The scene in Sydney and Melbourne tends to be more upscale and European but if you want Baywatch quality airhead blondes, Queensland is the best.

Frankypanky
12-12-04, 02:12
Based on my experience;

Good countries for mongering:

Vietnam (Find yourself a guide first)
Thailand (Pussyland)
Germany (2 hour drive with car, as I live in Holland)
Belgium (1 hour drive for a much better attitude compared to Dutch women)
Brazil (no comment....LOL)
Morocco (lots of horny, plumb girls)

Countries looking good to me (like to visit)

Cuba
Peru
Columbia

ManonsanBoy
12-15-04, 22:06
I started the habit in 1975, in Thailand, when my then girl friend and I had a fight whilst backpacking.

In 2004, I started a world tour in a quest to bang 200 women around the world in a year.

The best places so far:

China
Thailand
Philippines
Cuba (new experience)


Prague is OK.

Most of western Europe is a waste of time (the women are old)

Looking forward to Brazil (last visited 1990) and Argentina (last visited in 1980) soon

My guess is China and South America will be the new mongering centres in the next 20 years with endless supply of poor young women

Chick Luver
12-16-04, 12:21
Medical science regards anal sex as “high-risk behavior”. Basically, the anus is not designed for penetration by any hard object. The anal sphincter tightens ordinarily if stimulated, and attempts at penile insertion may be distressing even if done slowly and gently. If the penis is forced into the anus, injury is possibility. The lining (mucus membrane) of the rectum is very thin, tears easily, does not heal very fast and so it is vulnerable to infections. Also, the tears can enlarge to a fissure or a crack leading to the outside of your body. These are painful and slow to heal. There is the remote possibility that a fistula could open up, allowing faeces to reroute into the abdominal cavity or into the vagina. That is serious trouble. There is also the increased risk of haemorrhoids, which are quite uncomfortable.

One final note about anal sex ~ Masters & Johnson in their book on Sex and Human Loving warn that anything that has been inserted into the anus should not be subsequently put into the vagina unless it has been thoroughly washed. Bacteria that are naturally present in the anus can cause vaginal infections, so moving from anal intercourse to vaginal intercourse is unhygienic.

Routard
01-11-05, 20:14
I've travelled a lot around the world, I've surfed through the WSG, and I'm still wondering if there is a better place in the world for our hobby than German FKK. As the going price there is 50 Euro for 30min in what is one of the richest countries in the world, this should be the maximum price limit to compare.

Imagine a place where you can stay all the day, with excellent clean facilities (including eating, drinking, sauna, swimming pool, whirlpool, cinema, excellent bedrooms), where you are surrounded by 60 young gorgeous naked babes coming from all over the world ready to do anything you want for only 50 euro/30min. And we are talking here about service that cannot be closer to GFE. It's not easy to imagine an even better place (may be cheaper, may be with more diversity, may be with more quantity?...).

I don't like countries where meeting points are seperate from action place: like you meet the girl in a disco, have to take a cab to go back with her to the hotel, sometimes you are even supposed to bring her to the restaurant, give bribes at the hotel and so on...What if once in the hotel room you are disappointed when she is undressed? You bring her back to go all through it again with another? It's much more convenient having all the facilites in one place.

It's may be very personal, but I prefer also having multiple sessions with different girls than staying all the night with the same one. It's very common for me having up to 6 sessions with different girls in the same evening, and I've never had more than three pops with the same girl in one night. I love diversity, discovering new things.

Back again to that question: where in the world can you find places that can compete with German FKK?

Asia and especially Thailand? It's may be cheaper, but in my opinion service is far from the GFE: too much professional attitude, lack of passion, tasteless, and there is a lack of diversity.

Eastern Europe? There seem to be a kind of FKK in Prague which cannot compete with German FKK,and as far as I know in most of EE countries you have to go back to the hotel.

Same for countries like Cuba or Dominican Republic.

Dutch, spanish, Belgian or Australian brothels? Whe are getting close, prices and service are similar but none of these brothels can match the facilities of the bigger FKK's, diversity and quantity is less. Most of the other Western countries are not an option.

Let's forget Africa and muslim countries, not convenient enough.

Brasil? Yes most probably. I've heard about the Termas, but I've never been to Brasil. Can Anyone compare FKK with Terma?

Another country in South America? Argentina? Venezuela? I have no experience there.

Any Hole
01-12-05, 00:16
I have never been to germany or FKK, but have extensive mongering experience in England and for short time sex £40.00 you can have owo cim, french kissing, ect with fresh young( starting from 18 years) english girls in thousands of massage parlours up and down the country.

The downside is that you can only spend 30 minutes, and rarely can you have more than one shot, even if you want to pay more.

The whole point of mongering abroad for me is so that i can have a girl for the overnight stay ( 12 hours) or (24 hours) in Prague it cost me £300.00 in England it would cost £1000.00 for 12 hours, or Dominica Republic it cost me £75.00. For short time sex in these countries it was the same price almost as England.

I always find it strange when you read some guys reports trying to get the last dollar down on a deal for say a overnight stay, when really i will pay the going rate asked as it is so cheap, what i demand is the highest quality of appearance and services offered.

I now intend to visit the Mecca of all brothels Bangkok so that i can have a woman in my bed every night for 10 nights, for the same price of a hours time with a girl in England.

Is Bangkok the best safest place to carry on my hobby, or does anyone have any other suggestions?

CBGBConnisur
01-12-05, 00:39
Ibiza Spain is a pretty good place to meet women during the summer months when its packed. I would also rank Greece and Turkey as two other fine places to meet friendly women.

Member #2718
03-20-05, 07:00
I have mongered in Europe, Africa, and Asia and in my not so humble opnion Asia offers the best pickings with the Philippines offering the best chance for a GFE.
Yes Bangkok has Nana and Soi Cowboy which is always a great get away, but I have always found the average Filipina to be far above the average and you can't beat the "supply" of young good looking ladies ready and willing to make fantasys come true. The $$$ to Peso rate is also a BIG plus

Jayf1970
04-03-05, 19:17
Fellow Mongers!

It is time for another two week vacation. I am planning to make this my first mongering vacation and would greatly appreciate your input. I am thinking Thailand (Bangkok) for one week and some other destination for the second week.

I have been to Thailand a few times and absolutely love it. It is mongering paradise. A sandwich massage at one of the parlors, a hardcore 2-on-1 anal session, an overnight GFE session with a 21-year old bashful, timid freelancer, or just an expert 1-on-1 massage where the girl masterfully plays you like an instrument. These are things any hot blooded straight male MUST experience before dying.

But there are two things I don't like about BKK. One, the girls are typically smaller and most of them don't have a full figure - something I really like. Two, the whole mongering experience is too oriental (a bit timid? girls not getting into it the same way that westerners do? I can't quite put my finger on it) and not as passionate as it could be in, say, Latin America (as pointed out earlier very succinctly). I have not mongered in Latin America or Europe; and hence this request for recommendation.

Can someone recommend a good destination in either Latin America or Europe? The primary criteria is that it should be worth a whole week of mongering vacation. Tijuana, for example, is NOT worth it for me. Part of the reason is that I don't much enjoy the 30-minute sessions. At least, I am looking for long-time (3-4 hours or overnight) rentals. At best, I would like variety of experience like in BKK.

Secondary criteria is price. One of the reasons I like BKK is that you can have a PRIME pussy at an incall establishment for under US$50. No haggling. You can stay at a decent hotel room for $30 a day. Thats just awesome. I know I'll probably have to pay a bit more in the western world. But the destination has to be good enough to justify the travel and mongering expense.

Thanks, guys, for all your posts. I promise to post any unique experience I might have.

WSG Rocks!!

JayF

Starchild2012
04-04-05, 10:32
In short,

If you have any of the following words in your mind like Love, Sex, Soulmate, Fun, Good Time, Experience, then avoid "INDIA" at all cost, if you see an indian women don't run disappear. Even, the *****s here have such an attitude problem, that, you would sometime mistake it for american women, well, if you think American women are a "Type" that jackson has to dedicate a separate section for bashing them, just visit India, then you would only wish to be anywere but India on mongering.

The BEST country, PHILIPHINES, common tell me any country in the world, were women hit you on chat rooms, they demand your phone number, not for money if you thinking that way, its totally different when you enter Phliphines, this country is direct sexual havan for free sex. thats Ok if you pay for sex here, just imagine before you land in Manilla airport, you have already 10 contacts waiting for you for free sex, at different cities, you just spend 4 hrs on yahoo chat and a full one week of free sex is booked for you.

Phipipino women have no issues they are ready for anything everything, you just have to guide them, and they are with you for ever.

Good luck and happy hunting.

CBGBConnisur
04-04-05, 21:30
Russia during the summertime is a great place to meet women. There a clubs open in the middle of the day in Moscow. Fine cyrillic babes all over the place.

Long Stroker
04-27-05, 03:00
(from theonion.com)

AMSTERDAM—Americans traveling abroad confirm the findings of a study indicating that Washington's unilateral approach to foreign policy has seriously undermined Americans' chances of getting laid.

"I've been in Amsterdam for two months and have yet to begin a conversation with a cute girl that hasn't ended in a lecture about how big, evil America is taking everyone's oil," said college sophomore Brad Higgs, a participant in Johns Hopkins University's study-abroad program. "I offer to buy them a drink, and they tell me I shouldn't just stand by and watch Bush destroy the world. Look, if I had that type of pull with the president, I obviously wouldn't be out trolling for anonymous Dutch pussy."

The report, released Monday by the Center For U.S.-International Casual Relations, was based on interviews with approximately 1,400 American students returning from abroad. According to study director Gilbert Hapbrook, sexual contact between American students and foreigners has declined steadily since January 2001.

"Unpopular military actions and dismissal of international organizations have galvanized world hostility toward the U.S.," Hapbrook said. "Instead of being inundated with questions about Hollywood and requests to help hot young foreigners practice their English, Americans are being openly scorned in European pubs and cafes. Data taken from a poll of students in December 2004 showed that only a dismal 11 percent had achieved sexual congress with a non-American."

Hapbrook said the 2004 overseas-coitus figures show a slight recovery from the all-time low reached in November 2002, after the Afghanistan invasion and during escalating conflict with Iraq. But the figures are still well below those of 1999, when Bill Clinton was in office and a very healthy 67 percent of respondents scored abroad.

"I'm in Amsterdam—Amsterdam, for Christ's sake—and I'm in the middle of the longest dry spell I can remember," Higgs said. "Last week, I was making out with this Italian girl at a concert. It was all going great until the music ended and she heard my American accent. I swear to God, I went from the cusp of a hand job to, 'Why won't your country sign the Kyoto Treaty?'"

University of Colorado junior Casey Knight recently arrived in Amsterdam after a month in Germany.

"I asked a group of German girls at some Eurotrash disco to dance and they started yelling at me," Knight said. "They said that by paying taxes to the American government, I am no better than a fascist. Well, they would know, I guess."

Even students who actively oppose President Bush are susceptible to criticism, according to Emily Biehn, a Duke University student spending her spring semester in Paris.

"I voted for Kerry and I marched against the Iraq war," Biehn said. "But when I got to Europe, I might as well have been wearing a Bush bumper sticker on my forehead and star-spangled cowboy boots. As soon as the French guys hear I am from the U.S., all they want to do is argue politics."

"And switching tactics and acting like you're totally apathetic about politics just pisses them off even more," Biehn added.

Acknowledging that a large-scale change in American foreign policy is unlikely to occur before the end of the current semester, Hapbrook recommended three tactics for American students frustrated in their attempts to bed foreigners.

"First, pretend you're Canadian whenever you can," Hapbrook said. "But make sure you're not around actual Canadians, because they'll know you're lying and cock-block you. Second, if there are any anti-American protests going on, take care to avoid women carrying signs. Third, focus your itinerary on countries like Ireland and Japan that are still relatively friendly to Americans."

"You may want to write off France altogether," Hapbrook added.

Hapbrook said he developed his tactics in 1983, when the American government was practicing hardline Cold War foreign policy and he was spending his junior year abroad.

Higgs, who spends most of his time in his hostel playing solitaire and watching DVDs on his laptop computer, urged students back home to write to their congressional representatives.

"This affects all of us," Higgs said. "The government has to acknowledge the needs of young Americans. Too many U.S. citizens in foreign lands are spending sleepless, lonely nights jerking off in increasingly filthy sleeping bags. It sucks."

CA Traveler
06-03-05, 05:12
If one were to plan a two or three year around the world trip with plans to hit all important mongering sites in the world... What are the best 5 to 10 languages to study to be prepared?

Some are pretty obvious, but I would appreciate knowing what everyone else thinks!

My off-the-top ideas are:

Spanish
Brazilian Portuguese
Thai
Russian
Czech
Chinese, Mandarin
German
French
Italian

Anything else?

Member #2897
06-03-05, 16:18
Tagalog and Malay / Indonesian

CBGBConnisur
06-04-05, 01:08
If one were to plan a two or three year around the world trip with plans to hit all important mongering sites in the world... What are the best 5 to 10 languages to study to be prepared?

Some are pretty obvious, but I would appreciate knowing what everyone else thinks!

My off-the-top ideas are:

Spanish
Brazilian Portuguese
Thai
Russian
Czech
Chinese, Mandarin
German
French
Italian

Anything else?
Polish, Hungarian, Norwegian, Vietnamese, Malaysian, Ukranian, oh and Greek of course.

Digital Curry
06-16-05, 03:22
What countries are you treated like royalty by the local girls?

How is Peru, Colombia, Equidor, Honduras, Romania, Ukraine, Czech? These countries seem promising. Cuba I've already been to.

Speed of Light
06-29-05, 03:47
(from theonion.com)That was funny, but quite probably there is some truth to it. :)

Anyway, I live in Finland, and here a foreign dick goes in to Finnish pussy like a knife through hot butter.

In general, Scandinavia has probably one of the best freebie scenes for a black guy. It is not bad for other stereotypically non-scandinavian looking guys either, ie. dark-haired, Latin, foreign looking guys.

According to Durex's survey, Scandinavian women are the most willing women in the world in having one night stands.

Blastoff
07-25-05, 04:47
CBGB,

If she likes me enough for her to spread her legs for me, then I'd say that was pretty meaningful.

BTW, I hear what you're saying about Russian girls. Last summer, I noticed these 2 Russian women while I was waiting for a flight at Heathrow. They were both in their 30's and we are talking total milf action here. One of them noticed that I was noticing them. Imediately they began talking to each other and both of them kept on looking over my way.

I Figured "what the heck" so I them gave a little wave and they both waved back. For the next hour, we had the most pleasant conversation. They offered their phone number and addresses and said come see them sometime if I ever visit Petrograd (I think thats supposed to be St. Petersburg). This is something that you would never expect from women here.

I keep hearing all these good things about Aussie chicks. Have you actually been there and seen this for yourself? It almost seems unnatural that it could be so easy to score with hot young babes that way.

RockI am reading many reports on people thinking the Australia is easy to score hot beach babes under 27 years old and freebies. I have lived in this area of Australia for 25 years and if you are under 30, tanned, great looking, muscles, tall and have heaps of cash to throw around, sure you will pick up easily enough but the same could be said for a guy that looks like that in any country of the world.

I have travelled to many countries around the world and the poor countries are always the easiest. Australia is not poor. There are no starving or financially very desperate women here. Hookers cost more here than in the U.S.

The reality is, if you are after attractive white women, you would stand a far better chance in Eastern Europe or Scandinavia. IMHO

CBGBConnisur
07-25-05, 19:10
I haven't had much of a problem with getting good Australian women, yes of course Australia is not poor, it has a very high standard of living. As far as hookers in the US versus Australia, I have found good service for prices, when translated into US dollars, that are less expensive than in the USA. There are some escorts that charge outrageous fees, but most of the best brothels in Australia that I have visited are less expensive than the best escort services in the US.

I think I have some of the criteria down, but not the money part and the under 30 one, but people tell me I look young for my age. Since moving to Australia, I have lost a considerable amount of weight and am in much better physical condition than when I was in the States, so this might be a factor. A few years ago in the US, I stood at 6'2" and weighed close to 270 lbs., I now weigh about 200lbs and in decent shape. Still when going back to the US I still find women there to be more difficult. I would agree that Eastern European women are easier to pick up than those in Australia but mainly this is due to economic considerations. Many of them would love to pick up a man that can take them to the West. In spite of this, I think EE women tend to be more sincere than Asians in this regard.

Rock Dog
08-14-05, 21:26
It's all about options. Or, to be more specific, what the local women consider to be their options.

That's why , as Blastoff said, poor countries are the easiest. You can bet your ass that you'll look pretty good to the women in such a country. In countries where the standard of living is higher, there's a lot more men who earn a decent living. Women in these countries will naturally figure they have more, better options.

In a country like the US, or Canada, the living standard is very high and guys with good jobs (eg. $40-80k/yr) are a dime a dozen. It becomes an expectation that the man has to have a good job in order to be "good enough" for women in these countries. The next thing for them to get choosey about is looks and age. This is particularly true for the more attractive women because they KNOW they have a lot of options.

It's nice to know you could get a good looking, younger woman in eastern europe or wherever.... as long as you make a decent living. The flip side is that the main, perhaps only, reason she will like you is because of your money.

Rock

CBGBConnisur
08-14-05, 22:09
Canadian women are total SHIT, except for the ones in Quebec which is like a different country from the rest of Canada. I have been to a lot of "rich" countries where guys earning 40-80K are a dime a dozen. I know a technician in a BMW factory, whose family came from Turkey, this guy has a unibrow, has hair on his back, but has a beautiful blonde hair blue eyed German girlfriend. I have been around Europe and find women in Europe more open to sex than those in the US and English speaking provinces of Canada. Outside of Europe, I have fared well in Australia(Australian women have a more European attitude towards sex than American or English Canadian women), New Zealand and Quebec of the richer countries. I went to Japan and left empty handed. My favorite country overall for ladies is Brazil, especially the women from the south of the country. I fell in love with a European women that ended in tragedy, she had an abusive "freund" who got drunk one night, she was in the car, there was an accident, and she died. I tracked down this asshole recently and got a nice blood sample from him.

swede116
08-21-05, 23:09
As ridiculous as it may sound prostitution is illegal in Brazil, the law is just never enforced. The policia in Rio have more pressing problems. Recently a group of Norte Americanos were busted and deported for cavorting on a cruise ship with known prostitutes. Another crew of brainiacs were busted for making porno films. US foreign policy has made life difficult for the sex monger. US citizens are being targeted. Once your arrested and deported you can never visit Brazil again! You are effectively banned for life. Just be careful, don't be the typical man thinking with your little head instead of your big one.

Happy mongering.

Rastaman
08-23-05, 22:39
As ridiculous as it may sound prostitution is illegal in Brazil, the law is just never enforced. The policia in Rio have more pressing problems. Recently a group of Norte Americanos were busted and deported for cavorting on a cruise ship with known prostitutes. Another crew of brainiacs were busted for making porno films. US foreign policy has made life difficult for the sex monger. US citizens are being targeted. Once your arrested and deported you can never visit Brazil again! You are effectively banned for life. Just be careful, don't be the typical man thinking with your little head instead of your big one.

Happy mongering.Wrong! Prostitution is legal...."pimping", pandering or exploitation of women for financial gain is illegal.

Wanabe Monger
09-10-05, 01:40
What country has the cheapest prices for SW's or brothel action? I would like to take a trip somewhere. I would love to find a place that you can get $5 fs. Does a place such as this exist anywhere?

Chocha Monger
09-10-05, 08:34
In Ethiopia you can get it for $4.60 USD (40 birr) short time.

Mark04
09-10-05, 09:00
Dear Robbocock,

Amazing the price you are willing to pay! For the same amount or even a fraction of it, you'd be king in Bangkok. Read the forum there and you'd find that you can be a porn star, director and producer all rolled into one as long as you've got the cash. However, I understand the British pound is very strong and you're used to paying the going rate but please do not spoil the market when you go there. Being appreciative of the service and willing to pay extra is one thing but bear in mind your poorer friends from countries where the currency is very weak and inflating the market will make it that much harder for us.

That being said, I looked forward to your report after your trip there because with that amount of cash, you'd really blow these women to the moon! Other recommended places where you can be king is the Phillipines or anywhere really in Asia.......

FightingChicken
09-13-05, 16:05
Guys,

Whats do you think the best country to go too in Latin America in the next month or so, for a good time with some Chicas. I want to go ho hunting for a couple of months, so it could be worth going to more than one country. I got my Camara ready and want to do some investing reporting for this fine guide.

The chicas in Argentina look hot, but it might be too cold this time of year. The chicas in brazil look good. But, how far do you get by speaking bad Spanish or good English to someone who speaks Portuguese?

Any suggestions where the girls are hot and you get a good bang for your buck?

CBGBConnisur
09-16-05, 01:06
I would say it would be a tie between Costa Rica and Argentina, there are some really nice adult oriented resorts on the former, although a lot of them are staffed by Eastern European women. Venezuelan women are pretty amazing but I have a feeling something is going to happen to Chavez, so I would stay out of there. The place where they had Miss Universe this year is also a good bet, Ecuador.

FightingChicken
09-18-05, 05:21
Thanks,

But I would not recommend Ecuador, depends what floats your boat, but the chicas there are well down my list of worlds finest. They are not expensive from what I can remember.

But Costa Rica is a good Idea, and then maybe Argentina later on in the year, when its warmer.

Leparticular
09-21-05, 10:19
This has provided a non ending argument. I've heard that some woman would require 50 Euros for 1 hr. No matter how beautiful she is, would that be the best STR??? I don't know, but I think we must introduce a price to ratings index!

How about we break down the ratings to fully answer all the Q's people might have? As in.

Most beautiful STR experience (location, rate them 1-9, price):

Cheepest STR experience (location, rating, price):

Best STR beauty to price ratio: (location, rating, price):

Most expensive STR exp. (location, rating, price)

Safest location to pick up SW/STR:

Most dodgy/dangerous place to pick SW/STR:

Leparticular
09-21-05, 10:21
I'll go first.

Most beautiful STR experience (location, rate them 1-9, price):

Havana, 8 rating, $10 for 1 hour or so.

Cheepest STR experience (location, rating, price):

Addis, 8 rating, $10 for all night.

Best STR beauty to price ratio: (location, rating, price):

I gotta say Addis!! About $10 for an all nighter with a gorgeous gal!! 8/10 for the looks only becuase I never give 10s. She wasn't a 9 niether.

Most expensive STR exp. (location, rating, price):

San Jose, Costa Rica, 7/10, $60 for 1hour

Safest location to pick up SW/STR:

Malecon, Centro Havana, Old havana, all in Havana, cuba

Most dodgy/dangerous place to pick SW/STR:

N.A. (not available) I've been lucky so far. I never felt threatened anywhere I went.

CBGBConnisur
09-22-05, 01:29
Safest place for finding a SW would be Cannes, France they are all over the place.

Most dangerous place is Rio De Janeiro, even the Copacabana can get dangerous. I was there and saw a police station get robbed for its automatic weapons cache in the middle of the day. That place is no joke but the chicas are out of this world, still there is no guarantee that you will go home in one piece.

Most expensive place for SWs is Vegas, hookers are all over the casinos, I was in the Bellagio last year, around 12 midnight and spotted a couple of them trying to make eye contact with me, one wanted a 1000 dollars for "fun". I turned it down.

Monger#77
09-22-05, 02:38
Are we talking about short term relationships or hookers? Or are hookers included in the definition of short term relationships?

Lima Busy
09-22-05, 03:58
$5 sex, that would be assuming one had to pay for it!
Okay, 10 min FS is at 114A in Lima is 23 soles about $6.95 No not gonna work!
Okay okay okay, I got it ! The Trocadero in Callao
You pay 13 soles to get in and the Chica gets 15 soles for as long as it takes!
that is 28 Soles or $8.46 for the first one. But each additional FS is only 15 soles or $4.53. Cool the more you fuck the cheaper it gets, Just like golf!

Okay but what do you get for $4.53 for unlimited time in a legal goverment inspected Grade A brothel? maybe this!

Opp's would not load, maybe next time!
LB

Monger#77
09-22-05, 04:12
So are my posts against the rules? What is it exactly?

Tasty1
09-22-05, 04:34
I think for "bang for a buck" for western pussy (in contarst to SW in a third world country with smelly pussy) place is POLAND. Mopst stunning beauties, reasonable price (better than Costa Rica, China etc), easy availability, great GFE and clean, classy looks, no one and no one beats P O L A N D.

Leparticular
09-23-05, 12:34
Are we talking about short term relationships or hookers? Or are hookers included in the definition of short term relationships?I'd consider spending a night or even a few hours with a hooker a short term relationship, wouldn't you?

Chocha Monger
09-24-05, 06:46
Short term relationship is 30 minutes and one condom. Long term relationship is 2 hours and three condoms.

FightingChicken
09-25-05, 19:11
I think for "bang for a buck" for western pussy (in contarst to SW in a third world country with smelly pussy) place is POLAND. Mopst stunning beauties, reasonable price (better than Costa Rica, China etc), easy availability, great GFE and clean, classy looks, no one and no one beats P O L A N D.One of the most common remarks on this site is this city or that country is not like it used to be. This is all very well but its not really much help to horney mongers, telling us we should of gone to somewhere last year, unless someone can lend me their time machine.

What we want to know is where to go now. I like Prague because its so easy because a lot of the scene is quite out in the open.

Polish girls are very sexy I agree. But how easy for a none polish speaker is the mongering? By reading the polish section it does not sound very easy as say Prague.

CBGBConnisur
09-26-05, 02:04
In my experience I have found Eastern and Central European women to be the easiest to build rapport with, German and Scandinavians too. I'm thinking about Prague this November but am leaning more on Bulgaria, Bulgarian women are gorgeous, and is a cheaper country to visit.

Latina Passion
09-26-05, 02:35
I'll go first.

Most beautiful STR experience (location, rate them 1-9, price):

Havana, 8 rating, $10 for 1 hour or so.

Cheepest STR experience (location, rating, price):

Addis, 8 rating, $10 for all night.

Best STR beauty to price ratio: (location, rating, price):

I gotta say Addis!! About $10 for an all nighter with a gorgeous gal!! 8/10 for the looks only becuase I never give 10s. She wasn't a 9 niether.

Most expensive STR exp. (location, rating, price):

San Jose, Costa Rica, 7/10, $60 for 1hour

Safest location to pick up SW/STR:

Malecon, Centro Havana, Old havana, all in Havana, cuba

Most dodgy/dangerous place to pick SW/STR:

N.A. (not available) I've been lucky so far. I never felt threatened anywhere I went.

Cheapest place for pussy? Thailand $11 all night long Lima $12 for 30 minutes!

Over all cheapest place for pussy hands down Thailand!

Best looking woman Rio, fuck you al night and in the gym all day!

Second best place for a kick ass body, face ass and tits, South America, Asian women just do not do it for me, no ass no tits and no looks! Of course there are exceptions to any rule!

Best girl friend experience, any place but the fucking states!

One Wing Low
09-26-05, 07:00
There are many good looking SWs willing to do everything for $20 in the Zona Roja not to far from the US border.

Their good looks and their good attitudes beat Asia by a wide margin.

Hardbarg
09-30-05, 13:09
There are many good looking SWs willing to do everything for $20 in the Zona Roja
OK - I'll jump in on this one. I don't think this is really an accurate statement. $20 is the standard gringo price they will quote you as you walk by, and without a word spoken you can get laid (add $3-5 for the room). Service will be: dress pulled up, 1 leg of pantyhose removed, a robot who will allow you to bounce up and down for ~15 min. Not my idea of "everything". In fact, with even a little Spanish and a good attitude you can negotiate this basic package down to $15 or even less. BTW - the room will be stark (to be kind), as in no running water.

However, if your idea of everthing includes a naked chica, a bj, some minimal involvement on her part, more time, just as examples, expect to bargain in detail (in the street) and pay quite a bit more.

TJ has enjoyable experiences available, SGs are just one option, but expect to pay in the $60-80 range. Spanish and good negotiating skills a real plus.

Sam5935
10-30-05, 17:57
Anyone here have an opinion as to the best places to go as a tall, fit, 31-year-old white guy to just have fun, flirt, play around with non-pro locals? I've been to several mongering sites before and found that lots of places, if you're willing to be patient and don't mind if you turn up empty handed sometimes, you can meet plenty of non-pro girls.

I am planning a trip for the winter,probably Asia again and want to get opinions here as to what countries you can go get some fun attention from the locals. Thanks!

I realize that this is all subjective and up for interpretation but your best guess is appreciated!

S-

Sajer Guy
11-06-05, 07:23
Sam5935,

Go to the PI without doubt. You can tons of non-pros in Manila, or better yet Cebu.

Sajer

Volpone
11-06-05, 17:12
Hello Sam,

I think there are many countries to meet non-pros. If you will stay a few weeks, it's even much better to go out with one of them or more....

Best countries

That's not my personal experience, but I have read a lot on this forum and some others...

Nearly all countries of Central America.

Paraguay, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia in South America.

China, Thailand, Philipin, Cambodia, Indonesia in Asia

Belarus, Ukraine, Russia(save Moskow and St-Petersburg).

Many countries in Africa

Sam5935
11-06-05, 18:51
Hmmm, well I've only been to Thailand of the list you gave. I instantly found a lovely Thai gal and spent a week in Bangkok with her. I stayed in her apartment, met her friends, and didn't pay a dime. In fact, until I expressely asked her to stop, she was paying for almost everything!

I think I'm going to head to the Philippines in January. I hear they're pretty flirtatious there. I live in San Francisco and they're are really into the tall, white guy type here!

S-

Sam5935
11-11-05, 19:08
You can't go wrong with Thailand. My expereince also is that if you're relatively young and fit, you can bypass the whole p4p thing as the women want to hang out with you anyway. However, even if you go the p4p route, there is just sooooo much to choose from!

Doctor_Skank
11-14-05, 15:03
Nobsock:

The best one country will depend on your budget and tastes, as well as your language abilities.

For example Thailand is probably the easiest access location, there is an entire infrastructure built around it in areas of Bangkok and Pattaya. Its also fairly cheap and if you like Asian women, you will definitely find something to suit your taste and budget. However real communication with the girls is virtually impossible and spending any time outside of the bedroom with the girls can be mind-numbingly boring.

Places like Prague and Ukraine have women more culturally in tune with us, but the destinations themselves as well as the p4p girls are more expensive than Thailand. Language is less of a problem as some girls (rare also) will speak enough English to communicate with you.

If you narrow down your query a bit... indicating budget, preference in women etc... I am sure others can help you select your destination.

Volpone
11-14-05, 19:32
Just think about what kind of girls you like.

If you speak Spanish or if you want to learn it, I would advise you some countries in Central or South America.

If you only speak English and you like Asian girls, Filipine would be good.

I mean these countries if you want more than only p4p aspect, if you want to talk with the girls, to go out with them....
Spanish is easy to learn for Europeans or Americans, much more easier than any Asian languages or Russian....

Pedro Chilli
11-14-05, 19:55
My expereince also is that if you're relatively young and fit, you can bypass the whole p4p thing as the women want to hang out with you anyway.

I wonder what percentage of members would fall into this category. I dont. Bypass p4p? I wish!

James D 2004
11-14-05, 19:59
I have been thinking of compiling something systematically in the line of Dr Skank's idea. Since somebody actually asks, let me add something quick.

Yes, the most important thing is you. Length of stay is important. If you have just one week, cheap sex isn't meaningful. Flying 4 hours is a lot better than 12 hours.

Get to know the reporters profile helps. If you don't speak Spannish, South, Central America isn't that attractive as the reports said. Many excellent reporters are Spannish speakers and became semi locals. Your price and your choice is different, a lot different. Whereas in say Thailand, everybody is equal as nobody speaks Thai. All working in the tourist industry dealing with customers speaks English, including many working girls, but probably not the new fresh ones, or imported ones from neighboring countries. English is a lot more common in PI.

Budget - I would compare well known establishments in different countries with little variation in price and large selections. If the town has only a few bars, and you have to negiotate with the girls over a large price range and service, you may be disappointed even though you have reliable information. She may just decide not to give you that price and that service.

And for all-nighters, compare the sure thing rather than - if she likes you, and in slow times, she might go home with you for a reasonable price. Asia is more affordable. And looking for quality, if you double the price in some quality establishments, will you get twice as much and an unforgettable time? In many places you just get walked over.

As for yourself, are you comfortable doing it in FKK? Hanging out in bars? Or just pick a girl and bring her to your hotel? What sort of hotels are you comfortable with?

Non-mongering activities? Either you can go around with ease or better still, afford an English speaking driver for a day or a few. Best of all, bring the girl with you on your day trips, often freebie for all nighters. Language is important but it's surprisingly fun if you just get along without common language.

Your risk levels? Check CIA countries reports. Say HK has proven itself in the SARS saga, and major hospitals have doors as in star treck. Now free flu vaccine to all at risk group. Not the bird flu vaccine, but to free up resources if anything happen again. And they just need to stock pile a few mil bird flu vaccine when available to give everybody a shot. Not possible in any other countries.

Just some random thoughts.

Doctor_Skank
11-14-05, 20:40
Adding to JamesD2004, some other things to be considered:

cultural comfort: will you be able to fit in with the mongering scene? do certain situations make you uncomfortable?

female racial types and preferences: guys who like buxom, voloptuous girls wont find much in Thailand, but may go buck wild in Africa...

type of service: for example in Russia or Thailand you can take a girl to the hotel or apartment for the night for relatively little money, in Germany or Europe this kind of service is virtually unaffordable

Down time, vacationing value: is there anything to do in Quito when not mongering? Is Pattaya more than just an outdoor brothel?

Dinghy
11-14-05, 21:41
Hey Doc - Thai language is an "acquired thing". Except that it is "tonal" (what to the western ear sonds like the same word in different tones is actually several different words) iIt's not all that difficult - just a vocabulary development thing.

but that's my 2 cents..er kopecks...er satang ..er centavos

Doctor_Skank
11-14-05, 22:09
Dinghy,

Thanks for the 2 satang...

Yeah, I am sure it is possible to learn passable Thai with some effort, but for the short term monger choosing a destination for the first time or thinking of an alternate destination to his traditional haunt, its important to understand if he will be able to communicate.

Phillipines: almost certainly
Holland: probably
Germany: maybe
Russia: unlikely
Thailand: not at all likely

Sure some Thai pros speak ho English, but with most commo wasnt really possible. Maybe it was just me, but I didnt find many cute girls with language skills beyond the absolute basics. Usually, communicating wasnt necessary to have fun, but sometimes I missed it.

In Holland you will find English-speaking pros, but will have to be clever and lucky to find those that also perform well. The pros are often hardened and street-wise, clever at milking tourists.

In Germany's FKKs maybe a third speak English with a fair degree of fluency and the performance is really consistent, but the romance usually ends after 30-60 minutes... no affordable take home option.

In Dubai you find well-performing affordable English-speaking pros from every corner of the globe, but its expensive to get to and stay there...

etc.

Ability to communicate is only one category, and probably not the most significant, but I find it greatly affects my mongering fun in longterm stays.

James D 2004
11-15-05, 21:02
Nobsock, i think I might try to make your life harder, in a good way.

St Pete: be careful that the guy is a pimp or promoter. If you like that sort of proportion, Asia could be a good choice. American / European girls get fat at 12, while Asian women more like at 22. Legs are a bit weak, a bit short, but proportion not bad even if they are small. Since many girls cannot afford breast enhancement in developing countries, I always go for those who don't need it, as in the picture, or Asian girls. BTW, say Argentina is 80% European decedents. However, many of the working girls in BA are not locals, imports, from Brazil, neighboring countries. Eastern Euro girls are all over Western European, Asia, US. Maybe it end up cheaper if you exchange the air ticket for a few hookers at home.

Be careful of internet pictures of girls taken professionally. I know because I'm in LA. If you believe everything, then LA has the most beautiful girls in the world if you look at any escort malls.

Brazil: I have seen lots of Brazilians like that, good. But the problem is, the asking price is $200 USD for two hours. You may pay a lot less, but you understand the problem is. $100 USD isn't a lot in say HK, but buy you the best 141 girls for one shot, about an hour. For that you go to heaven in Macau. Even cheaper in China, but the problem is distance and it's illegal. And then Thai, PI etc, certainly a lot less to live in than HK Singapore.

Language: I would add that there are several levels, whether the working girls speak your language, whether the girls specilized for tourists speak your language, and whether the management speak your language.

If you go to school in Germany (West), you speak almost perfect BBC English, better than the British. Just in London, you have East end and West end accent, South London, etc. Dutch - similiar fluency as they are a tiny but great trading nation. French - they understand English, possibly speak well, but they don't admit it in public. Italy - they love USA. So if a girls work near Europe, her 2nd language is probably English, because most Euro Johns can handle it. Don't know about Russia, but Czech girls who speak English does it quite well - European tongue.

Asia - totally non-European tongue. They all try to speak at least ho English. The fresh young ones may not speak English, but they start to learn a little when they start the work, perfect when they work in tourist bars and earn their place in the export list. In Thai, waiters, hotel drivers all speak English, so you get by very well. Actually after an allnighter, I pulled a room service guy into my room to translate what my girl try to say. She wanted me to bring her to Pattiya (from BKK!). I would love to but it was just a lay over. We got along well and she knew I would if I could.

Chinese too difficult to learn. Spanish, you have the whole continent, apart from portuguese Brazil, which probably worth the effort to learn. It's worthwhile to learn Spannish in LA, but I ain't a big fan of Latinas. I would love to learn a little bit of Korean for fun, but the economics may change, Korean and US politicals may change so the Korean girls may not come in numbers any more in say a couple of years.

Doctor_Skank
11-15-05, 21:41
Nobsock:

The St.Pete pictures you refer to are all of a single girl and posted by Jusewah, who reported that she is working in a brothel-like salon. Salons are common in Russia. The deed with girls like her may last an hour and you'll be charged $50-100. Not a bad deal. The take home version not too much more, $100-300. That body type is obviously quite common in Russia and Ukraine, but finding a provider that meets your expectations isnt always as easy as it seems. Less and less girls have to work that job and correspondingly those that do are gradually charging more and more. Somedays you might see a half dozen top girls, other days they all seem average. Add 50% to the St.Pete prices to get Moscow prices, with budget quality take home in Moscow at almost $200 and upscale takehome at $300+.

The St.Pete sex scene isnt terribly difficult to navigate, but it isnt as upfront as Thailand and you will have to do some searching to find the brothels and speaking some Russian goes a long way. The pickup bars are fairly expat-friendly language wise, and many of the girls will all speak at least ho English, although often not much more than that.

That said I love mongering in Russia.... and Thailand is back on my list too.

James D 2004
11-16-05, 02:09
Ha, Nobsock, I saw that you have enough trouble deciding already, as seen in other threads.

If you have reliable friends and trusted guides in some cities, that is all good. But how do you know?

Chinese spread all over SE Asia for millenniums for survival and business opportunities. The majority (or near) of Argentine supermarkets are owned by Chinese, probably a result of the currency crisis. A lot in Vietnam and Thailand etc are Chinese decedents. They kept the culture and try to keep marriage within their communities. But it's not obvious that they are Chinese. At least they don't say that they are Chinese. The issue is always sensitive. And the majority of Chinese in rest of the world won't have a clue that they are Chinese. A little further, 30% Chinese Malaysian. By law you have to have a Malay partner for a business. Indonesia - well known, 1%?? Chinese controlling 90%?? of the economy. That's why they try to marriage within and they always welcome loyal relatives to relocate from overseas, and desperadoes from the same ancestral villages too.

Certainly in Thailand you won't get Chinese girls. They probably won't want to charge the same as Thai girls but you certainly won't want to pay more. Even Thailand imports girls from neighboring countries.

Skin isn't just color, but texture as well. China is vast and the preferred girls by Chinese are those in the North, and a few counties in the middle - Zu (?) and Hang (?). You seldom seen these girls outside these counties as 5 stars hotels and party officials can probably absorb them all. Pale and delicate skin.

There's a practical reason for preferred skin color. Why tanning is so big? Tanning hide flaws. Anal bleaching and nipple bleaching is also big in LA. Pinkish always look good but practically it's easier to see if there's something wrong in there and around it.

North China is very cold while Thailand is tropical. So there's a lot of difference. Thai girls are a lot darker than Chinese girls on average, especially North China, pink nipples vs dark nipples. However, some Thai regions have pale skin girls and pink nipples. At some borders? High altitude?

Thai girls have higher professionalism. They will treat you nice, if not for the tips, they hope you will ask for them again in your next trip. Many do. Yes, there are bar girls, who promise you all night but quit after several hours. But there are place specialize in all nighters. They are more GFE.

Chinese girls are GFE in the real way. Semi-pros help you to spend your money and welcome expensive gifts. But it's not bad. Accompanying you for a few days, you can't put an exact figure on it. These girls are more in places without brothels or if you want higher end girls. Techniques varies, from they just lie there like your 1st girl friend, to BBBJCIM, rimming.

China is vast and many cities became rather expensive. Peking, Shanghai, fast growing cities with vast foreign investment. Canton, and Shenzen bordering HK. They have a lot to catch up with HK, but HK once over took Tokyo in cost of living.

Prostitution is simply illegal in China. In some places you have trouble being discovered by police with a girl in a private apartment. While in other places, you can have a huge lineup in your hotel. It all depends on how corruption is.

James D 2004
11-16-05, 06:51
This girl (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=31360) isn't outstanding for Asian girl standards, Thai, PI, Chinese. Face isn't beautiful and hidden behind too much makeup. Can't see much but bigger boobs and paler. The funny thing is, that's how Chinese pimps pick the girls, which isn't the best Chinese girls have to offer. There are slimmer girls with smaller good looking boobs, much better puffies or very neat nipples.

If you look at other pictures of the same girl, you can see that her waist and legs aren't that awesome. Might be she had baby too. As for comparison, you can look at ******.com of HK. The 800 to 1000 HKD hotel reservation girls are all from China. The site is well known for it's realistic pictures. Background is the hotel room they stays. No studio lighting and modifying is extremely difficult with detailed background.

On the other hand, I think Asia is for you, China or Thailand. Just that in Thailand, don't try to compete with the locals in terms of price, and you will be doing OK, not doing those in the nasty pictures.

As for whether Chinese girls or Thai girls are more innocent ... I laughed.

Doctor_Skank
11-16-05, 09:16
Thai and Asian girls:

One thing I have noticed is that on the Thai picture board there are only a (very) few posters actually posting pictures of good-looking women. There are much better looking girls in Thailand than you might expect if you just viewed the Thai photo gallery. That said, the Thai photo gallery is realistic in the sense that most Thai pros, whether Pattaya or BKK, are not that great looking or rather the good-looking ones are too expensive for many johns, i.e. are go-go girls with a higher price tag than the more popular plain jane beer bar type. There may also be some performance issues there as well, as many report that the plainer type are more GFE. I frankly cant understand why some people would fly half way around the world to fuck ugly girls, but you see it all the time in Thailand... a shame considering all the truly sexy girls there.

I cant agree entirely on JamesD2004's language assessment regarding English fluency, as even in Germany many people dont speak English beyond a basic level, especially the pros working at FKKs, many of whom are foreigners. Enough to communicate basic ideas, but not much more. Still, this is farther than you'll probably get with most Thai or Chinese girls. In Russia and Ukraine the level of English fluency is low, but still higher than in Asia.

Some of the best Asian girls I've ever had were in HK, were you have the cheap 141 Chinese apartment girls and the more expensive take home kind from pick up bars and discos such as Dusk til Dawn or Neptune. Their English level is higher than in other Asian destinations since HK is an international city, but you'll still find plenty "just off the boat" that speak nil English. Overall you'll spend much more money in HK though, it doesnt get much cheaper than Thailand in terms of cost of living and cost of p4p sex, unless you want to go to Burma or Cambodia or something... but who really wants to do that? Certainly not as a rookie monger.

Moody
11-16-05, 11:21
There's one thing that really hasn't been touched upon concerning Thailand. The prevalence of HIV/AIDS. That alone would make me think twice before heading out to Thailand just to screw girls. Yes it's true that it's difficult to get HIV/AIDS from normal vaginal or oral sex with an asymthomatic female (about 1/500 or 1/5000 with a condom for vaginal sex), but why take that chance if you're only going there for girls? If you have other reasons for being in Thailand, and girls are only a distraction, then that's fine. If however, your major reason for traveling to a destination is to just get girls, why take the chance when equivalent or better girls are available elsewhere?

James D 2004
11-16-05, 20:57
For the sake of devil's advocate, it's worthwhile to take all hepatitis vaccine if you go to China. HK guys do. I asked for it from a South East (England) GP but they gave me the wrong type. Right for them there but not what I wanted.

If you don't go to trafficking type brothels in Thailand, I doubt if you are taking a higher risk in Thailand than China. The good think about legal brothels is that regular checkup is supposed to be done. The management watches the girls and the girls watches each other if there are health troubles. If a girl don't report other girls, it's going back to haunt them, because they are seeing the same clients.

Prostitution is illegal in China. There's no official campaign to get the prostitutes regularly examined. The number of aids estimates are not reliable. Medical services is rather backward in China and relatively expensive. Some people can't afford to give birth in Chinese hospitals, get a tourist visa to HK, give birth, walk away free. So popular that HK decided not to give birth certificates unless all fees are paid.

To extend further, I would advice not going to Asia with bird flu this season. But then Russia, Europe is also affected, which leaves America perhaps. If you have to go, best survival chance is proved to be HK. USA isn't even ready for ordinary flu. And China claims to able to manufacture huge amounts of experimental bird flu vaccine fast, the question is whether it's useful and safe. As for herpes, avoid all popular US destinations. But that will probably leave you Maurisus where Air France is the dominant carrier for once. At every meal you have abundance of weapons of mass destruction on the table.

Thailand has service for all budgets. The clubs that Thai elites go, the go-go dancers, bars, fish bowls, etc etc. If you want looks, go for the go-go girls and you cannot make a mistake. If you want affordable all nighters, go for private houses with large selections of legal teenagers for you to take home. Not as good looking but sweet cute and closer to 'innocent', hehe. Even if you don't know anybody, you can ask hotel workers for 'really good' girlfriends, drivers are best. You pay more but within reason, not anything from 100 to 300 peso that sort of thing.

China has no intention to be an international sex destination, and she put a lid on things from time to time. The exception is Macau, another special region, where prostitution is almost legal in all intent and purposes. HKers still go there a lot, then Shenzen, border with HK, and the border with Macau, and somewhere in between, cheaper. If you go there on your own, language is a problem, and you are competing with a lot of HKer's who know a lot that you don't.

Best girls are probably in Karaoke clubs - younger lower volume. But 100 USD is nothing, nothing in HK, and HKers go far inland to be treated like a king to worth the time.

On the service level, of course the girls who can't compete on looks give you the best. They will do anything safe, GFE, and even doesn't mind appear all over on the internet, what do they have to lose? That explains the unattractive photos. BTW, BBBJCIM, intense rimming is popular in Asia. In China, Taiwan and HK they are done by older girls, some not bad looking. The best I had are by 19 year old pretty girls who suck my dick out and rimmed my brain out, Chinese Malaysians, all for no extra than the going rate. So if I were to do the same comparison exercise again, I'd check out Malaysia.

We have a high concentration of Vietnamese in LA. The numbers isn't big compared to other Asians so they became a rather hot commodity. Cute young things can get away with doing massage only without even giving you a hand job. Vietnamese, Chinese Vietnamese, half French, quarter French, half African (US GI), but you have to wait a bit for quarter African Vietnamese. Many Vietnamese Americans go back at least to have look. So that's doable. Someday I go there to fuck one girl for every Vietnamese massage that I ever did without release.

Koreans are the most expensive and cheapest as well. I have to go there sometime as the sex is just a different kind of experience. You haven't been to LA or SF if you do not fuck a Korean.

I thought I know what Thai girls look like until I saw the so called Thai girls in LA. Paper white skin, the best breast that money can buy, possibly nipple and anal bleaching. I have seen a few in the same mold.

Then the Philipinas which is the largest Asian population in LA, but I don't know where to find them at all. In the only one small Philipinas club in LA, I saw the most concentration of beautiful girls and women.

And of course the abundance of Chinese girls. A weekend in Las Vegas is about USD 1000 for a beautiful early twenty something. I get it for 800 with my favorite girl. That's about cover the ticket to BKK or China. But after the 1st few days, sex becomes time killing and on the last days of the week, that's tedious overdrawn and take time to recover after the vacation. In contrast, if I go to Vegas for the weekend, and by not taking a week off, the vacations not taken became handsome savings, which can be cashed in at the latest salary rate.

I hope that it's clear that I was mostly talking about the language skills of the Johns around the world. So in Europe unless you want to learn several Eastern European languages plus Russian, the next best thing will be English, as that will the the choice of ho's for their 2nd language. Of course most don't learn much 2nd language until they are on the job as hos.

James D 2004
11-19-05, 02:05
It depends on personal profile, destination profile, and reporter profile.

* Personal profile
Physical features
Budget
Service
Quality
Language Skills
Visibility
Distance
Duration
Comfort Level
Health & Safety

* Destination profile
Tourist vs local
Fault tolerance
Other activities

* Reporter profile
Reliability
Bias

Ndara
11-20-05, 17:09
Good countries to visit when it comes to p4p according to me are:

Kenya, cheap, many girls available and in Nairobi girls from all neighboring countries available. And Kenya has a lot to offer except mongering. Safaris, hiking, nice beaches etc

Thailand, also cheap, easy, many girls to choose from.

Colombia cheap, very beautiful girls, all types af girls, whites, blacks, amerindians.

Other countries well worth going to are Cambodia, PI, Uganda, Ethiopia, Mocambique, suriname, Brazil, Peru, Latvia etc.

CBGBConnisur
11-21-05, 18:48
Few attractive women that I have met would be willing to put their photos on the internet. The best posted photos on this site seem to come from Russia and Eastern Europe. As far as women are concerned, I have been blown away by the beauty and composure of many South American women who have dressing habits that are often first world.

DJ FourMoney
11-27-05, 10:54
here's how i have it broken down -

personal preference:

5'0 or taller "lorias", fair skin, light or dark eyes, light hair, coke bottle shape, with slightly larger rear end and hips, about 100-140lbs. morenas are on that list as well, same stats. ages 21-30

for comparasion purposes:

sheri's ranch, overnight with say "tj". she squrits, likes black men, does anal and for somebody beyond 30 looks very good, super tight body (all confirmed)

scale about - 8

total cost: $1525

since i have never personally met her, $25 in fuel, $300 for test drive, $1200 for i believe 10 hours in a suite (all expenses and food). not to mention 2 hours drive for total time spent about 14 hours awake and max of 4-6 hours sleep in 24 hour period.

i can most likely find somebody local for about $800 for the same quality, maybe. but again since i don't have a favorite, figure on $150-200 for test drive and $500-800 overnight with looks scale about 7-8.

total: $650-$1,000

i haven't decided which area to visit first, so i'll just list what i have so far:

lax to sao paulo 5 days and bsa for 5 days, total ticket price - $950 (plane has to refuel in sp anyway)

i guess i need a vista even for a short vist to brasil? , not sure but just say - $125

estanplaza paulista (3 star, chica friendly) - $499us for 5 days

sampa guide ride from airport, first internet chica setup, transportation for chica to and from hotel - $200r ($89.53us)

chantily has proven track record (wysiwyg).

complete service (including anal) and bbbj for $300r ($134.29us) 2 hours with extended time more than possible for minor fee.

geez first night in sao paulo i can get top level, english speaking gfe and still spent less than i would have in lv and bella is at least 7.5 on the scale with a tight body (reported) and much ass (visually confirmed).

from there i can get massage and full service from a clinica for about $160r (71.62us). looks of massues run from 5 to about 8 in the places that have been reported on.

there also private apartments and even a rio style terma in the area.

employing sampa guide for the evening runs $150r (about $60us) and includes free entry in most of the top pickup clubs and strip joints in sp. an upper level (not we) chica will run about $650r ($290.95) for overnight until 8am, maybe longer. that includes the bar fine and drinks (gringo rates).

other options include love story nigtclub which is full of non-pros and pros after midnight (its an after-hours joint) and the range is from 5-9.5 usually with anywhere from freebies to $400r for tln (reported).

but i fully expect to mix my pro action with a heavy dose of non-pro mining with sampa guide, we'll chill, get our boogie on and have a good time.

hobbying budget for sp is $1500 for 5 days of action. of course i'll try and spend less than that, in fact the 2ndary goal is to find one special chica for str, daytime sight seeing, maybe a trip to the coast to the beaches and other gfe b.s if i find that, the rate will be greatly reduced and while i do relish the chance of sampling alot of different chicas i'm sure i'll connect with one or two in the first 48 hours or so, based on meeting maybe 4-6 women in that time frame.

bsa terms and conditions:

most to the hotels near the "triangle" are chica friendly and about $60-70us a night. most of them 3-4 star. apartments run about $50-60 a day and include cable tv and high speed internet.

roxanne will set you up with an apartment, internet chica(s), pick up from the airport and even guided tour of bsa for a reasonable rate.

"triangle" chicas run from about $150-200ar for short time, about $300-400r for tln and protential for alot longer for slightly more money. those are "gringo" rates. im not sure what the "brotha" rate is yet...

chicas range from 5-9 in these clubs, tho i think some people need their eyes checked i haven't seen a visual comfirmation of a 9 yet. but the web sites are loaded with 8.5, 9's on my personal scale.

there about alot of private apartments in the relocata (sp?) area with chicas running from $60ar an half hour of fs with $20r tip for bbbj. geek is also extra. its $80ar for an hour and $20 tip for bbbj. most of the talent is from 5-8 area.

bsa has a better than average nightlife as well, so while acturate non-pro reporting is somewhat mixed, it still possible.

hobby budget is set at $1,000 based on strength of dollar vs ar peso and the apartment chicas are excellent "bang for the buck" so to speak.

so its either:

total vaction cost - $3,000est

that's equal too:

four or less all nighters at a southern neveda brothel, no take home option and no potential for "freebies". have i mention that area is baren and lv is 55 mins away?

i doubt seriously i could find an 7-8 local provider that will give me 10 days worth of services equal to the gfe/pse level i believe i can find in south america. i can find services in other areas like mexico and central america for about the same or less when added with travel cost.

but i really like "loiras" and sp and bsa have the highest concentration of european influence.

i'm not trying to make this longer, but i think this will help other in my postion.

european tour -

lax to manchester 2 days (non pro visit) then on to frankfurt, germany
ticket price - $870 total with taxes

this trip has the potential for alot of non-pro action. according to my intel, germany is very "hot" for a guy such as myself (black male, mid 30's, in shape, above averge looks, no kids, never married, good career, etc, etc).

the hardest part is going to be to narrow down all the personal ads i have run across and then cordinate my traveling with where they live. the goal here is mining for ltr with relocation possiblities, something i've never been able to do despite having more than a few internet relationships with ladies from germany, sweden and the netherlands over the years.

between all that, i do want to sample the german fkk scene and depending on just what happens on the non-pro front, train down to prague and check out the fkk's, non-pro nightclub action and maybe get in a few privates as well.

because of the exchange rate between the us dollar and euro, it actually would cost less to go to europe, but more to hobby. this is why the non-pro front is more important here. but the value of the fkk's in germany are very good, even if timing limiting and no reasonable take home option.

prague ffk but for big sister have a take home option and the exchange rate is still good enough to get reasonable value at the fkk, even if the privates are better, yet harder to find.

depending on what your goals are, if your a brotha into the european look like myself, you might want to start in europe first and then try south america.

if my goal was to just bang as much as possible i would consider phi my next stop, as phlips in the us like black men and i talked to a couple of girls down there already, its just not high on my list. i doubt if i can sneak in another 10 days off and another several thousand dollar trip next year. going to both europe and south america looks like it will set me back around $6000-7000 us. now that sounds like alot, but i hardly have any bills and even still is only about 1/4 of my total net income, not gross. my first trip will be heavily offsetted by my tax return, bringing the net cost of the first trip down by at least $1,000 if not more, making the plane ride and some of my hotel stay free.

the hobby budget is based on saving about $550 a month out of my income which is just about half of my weekly pay so that's easy.

target date for either trip is april/may. i realize that's the coolest time of the year for brasil and argentina, so i might opt for europe first as i would be getting in just before holiday/vaction summertime peak.

sorry for the long post.

James D 2004
11-28-05, 02:27
I'm not a brutha. For STR Asia should be serious considered by anybody. Really exotic and adventurous may be going to Mongolia hunting for the rare blonds that are direct decedents of Amazon warriors. Otherwise, the place may be old, but they have infrastructure, reputation, experience. Girls don't grow old, constant supply of new girls.

Personal preference are difficult. Say, everyone wants coke bottle shape. 100 lb at age 21 have to be Asian girl. Rear end have to be Brazilian. China have all sorts, except for the hair, and you have to research where best to go for such a large place.

I picked BsA for European looks, but putting them side by side, I picked a Brazilian, and a skinny Paraguay girl with Asian body type. And I have to stop myself from picking more Brazilians. My lesson is that absolute beauty easily outweigh preference. East/Central Europe is a better bet, I bet they don't import that much.

I would be flexible on the age. If you start at 18, by 21 you will be physically or mentally desensitized. At late 20's to 30, women can be better with maturity but these women aren't and can't take care of themselves as normal women.

Forget about Nevada brothels. Last place on earth I would go there even if free. They are that bad. Those who go there are exceptionally (I couldn't find a word). All ratings and confirmation are off the charts.

Don't expect you can easily get an allnighter in anywhere in the world, unless the joint has a lineup, and then you pick one and take her home by default. If the girl also charges by the hour, many factors will be against an allnighter. If the girl is hot, she can easily get a few hourly clients per evening. It doesn't make any economic sense unless you are willing to pay at least 3 or 4 times near the end of her shift. And you don't really want a tired girl.

Say in LA, I doubt if many will accept an offer without knowing you well. Not just a test drive to know each other, but like a regular. Many girls cannot offer GFE and therefore an all nighter, if on the menu, is useless.

I hate that when you are hit over $1500 for ticket and hotel without doing anything. If you have sex 5 times that would be $300 each. If you stay at home and spread it out instead of 5 days in a roll, that will be much more enjoyable.

Guides in say Thailand are more affordable. English speaking driver with transport for whole day. Tourist guy by day and sex guide by night. Pretty safe to go anywhere.

BsA internet big screw up. It's like LA without review sites like T E R. Would Brazil be better?

$300 R for two hours is very realistic. But I remember BsA is more expensive than Brazil, but the aids and crime statistics stick out like a sore thumb. In BsA private apartments, service completo cost a lot less 100-120 peso an hour, for girls that Jackson would do.

$650 R TLN should be realistic as that's 300 USD, but as I said, if she also charges per hour, she can get that in less than two hours.

Try hooking up with non-pros with a local guide, that would be fun. I would guess they will try to ruin it for you, then take you to a quality joint and get a small cut.

I don't suppose Brazil real estate will be more expensive than Recoleta. So it's worthwhile to pay more for hotel space there. Book early for apartment for high season.

"Triangle Chicas run from about $150-200AR for short time, about $300-400R for TLN and potential for alot longer for slightly more money. " Do the math. It doesn't make sense. For Blacks and similar clubs, 300 AR or 100 US for 1 hour. A girl offer me 900 AR or 300 US for 3 hour, no concession. She must have passed her elementary arithmetic. You could do better than me of course. I lived across Blacks. When I walked out every night, I was in danger of some street promoter dragging me into Blacks. I sit near the extreme end opposite the stage for a quiet drink with my girl, but the stripper came to dance on my table for the two of us. My girl told me to go to the toilet first before we left, even I lived across the street. Her friend in charge of the toilet must be trying to hit me with a big tip, as the tip tray contains all big peso notes. In the other club, they won't allow me to walk nor take a taxi. I took one of those jack black cars for VIPs. The driver looked more like a security agent.

However, an internet girl, after we finished, did offer me TLN for around several times the hourly rate of 100 AR I think. She's not the best but alright, but that was early time in the trip and I still had high expectations. I turned her down. But more importantly, apart from looks, the way she kissed me, looked at me, talked to me, wasn't meeting my criteria. In LA, even if I can afford it, there's only I girl I ever met I would TLN with. She's Asian with very unique background, so it's as good as none. In W Europe, a few girl passed my criteria. Asia, plenty.

Remember, LA escort sites are all loaded with pictures of 10's. After a few I gave up on the internet girls in BsA.

I have visited a few private apartments in day time. There's only one that I approve of, which Jackson used. Around 100 AR and a little more for complete service. Take out also available and any hotel is much better than that dump, though maybe it's the best dump. By the way, the girl I saw I'm happy to spend the night with her. But I had to get to the airport right after. Don't know if TLN is an option. But like I said, she could have done 10 guys into late evening, and I don't think she would like to leave early.

$3000 equals

0 in Nevada - if you like porn stars passed sell by date, OK, but better spread the time rather than TLN.

3 TLN in LA with good looking Asian girl, if you are lucky. 3 x 1 hr straight sex with 18 year old blond dancer, if you are lucky.

I ended up with no TLN in a week in BsA. You need serious help and its obvious where to find it. So it would have been better for me with 10 x $300 encounters spread evenly over many weeks in LA. $300 buys a lot these days because of the price pressure from CL, the crack down of MP's, and a large surplus of Korean girls. If you are Asian, a lot cheaper than $300 for a start. One reason for Asian only is because in the USA aids statistics, white men are the top risk, while Asian women are as low risk as any other country in the world. They want to keep it that way.

Asia - sure thing. But TLN take out places don't have test drive. It sort of make sense. But for the good price and selection, it doesn't hurt that much if the 1st one doesn't meet expectation. Take another one.

DJ FourMoney
11-29-05, 09:40
Sorry James it sounded like Im not flexible I am... :)

Ages and things are only starting points. About TLN's I know going in its a crap shoot and all that stuff. Who knows what would really happen once I actually get down there early next year, but I feel I have handle on it for the most part. All the ISG's boards do an excellent job of making things easy to find and work with.

I also understand the dynamics I was just outlining a plan and trying to point how hopelessly pointless a local or Neveda outting would be. It just doesn't make sense.

I like thick and thin girls I just wanna get away from the American "Cows" that are always blowing up my Inbox on personal ad sites... I mean Im not perfect, I could lose about 10lbs, I don't run as fast as I used too and its harder to dunk, all signs of not keeping in shape and aging, but dayum I'd wish these 250lbs heffers would leave me alone!

Brazilians are in a class all alone... I don't think anything on earth comes close in overall packaging.

Thanks for the input, I must be on the right track if you didn't totally pick it apart - :D

DJ FourMoney
11-29-05, 12:08
Okay so you picked it apart a bit more: D

I'd don't like the idea of spending $1500 before I even tagged anybody either, but being white or asian you don't have women hanging up the phone on you talking about "I don't do black guys" or something to that effect.

That has happen more than once here.

Not to say that won't happen to me in BsA or even Brasil (I doubt I'll be making the call myself anyway), but from the couple of black guys that have PM'ed me said they had no problems at all down there. I would venture to say that they are most likely decidedly older than me too.

I'm not going to go on record saying I would get better service just because I look 25 as opposed to looking 55, but as with all things YMMV. I'm not counting on it either. I too am not totally impressed with the quality og chicas that Jackson makes use of. Not totally bowled over by the posted pictures of chicas from any of the "Triangle" area clubs or even Apartments. Okay maybe my standards are higher, there some decent talent out there.

Internet chicas are hit and miss anywhere, but seems some of the sites are reliable up to a point.

Its still a bit early, the non-pro front is still developing. There is always the possiblity of me hitting Europe first. Afterall I have already one non-pro lock but she has 2 kids and I really rather not get more physical than I have to. Just makes it messy, speaking from experience. She wants LTR, I'm not so sure.

I just have to say this.

It maybe all pink inside but I like the outter wrapping too much and honestly for a guy like me in my situation I could bang sista, after sista, left and right for free. I also got BBW's standing in line, so the question isn't getting p***y its the SELECTION I have available, the rigamarole to even get the p***y and I don't like it.

I have several Asian friends and every so often I go party with them. Its just not what I want and I see attractive Asians of all ethnic backgrounds, it just doesn't interest me, not even for free and for sure not p4p.

Brasil vs BsA -

It only would cost $170 more to fly down to BsA on the same ticket. It would only represent 1 internet chica in ($200R for 1 hour) SP or (2) Messages with full service, completo in an Clinica for $120R an hour.

If you feel Brasil is more worth while, you won't get an argument from me.

But nothing ventured is one of my mottos.

The clubs I kinda wanted to check out, just to check out. I'm not sure I would pull anybody from there, especially if the price wasn't reasonable, but I'm sure their are bargins to be had.

I would most likely ask for "Take Out" from the apartments its only $10AR more I think. I mean their a few options and I didn't feel like more than 5 days was worth while in BsA especially when I don't know much spanish at all.

James D 2004
11-30-05, 20:52
BsA internet is highly unreliable. The reliable sites didn't turn me on. Some are decorative girls, who you can never book. If you pre-book well in advance at a good local rate, the chance they turn up is low. Just like USA and many other places, the most reliable is you call when you are ready, or one or two hours in advance. Who knows what tomorrow will bring? They also don't quote TLN prices for most. If you ask they say they don't offer.

And if anybody turn up, prepare taxi fare and they will go with a smile if you don't want her. But it's a bit tedious.

Minorities are often disproportionally high in hookers in many countries. And they often foreign workers if the living standard is higher than neighboring countries. LA has probably more blond as anyone can afford to dye their hair with good quality blond color. Even in the best clubs and apartments, the enthicity is well mixed. You import girls because they looks better for the same rate.

For apartments, you don't have lineups of six after six after six. That's only in Asia.

Clubs, the best clubs has decent dress code so you can't see much skin as in bikini. The lighting in some clubs are dark. The hot girls often hang out with their regular groups. In other clubs, girls keep coming up so you have a hard time to turn them all down so as to have a good look around.

The good thing is that La Recoleta Cemetry is on the world's list of places to visit. (But no one told me that, but I saw the outside everyday.) And if you are a startup professional USA football (soccer) team travelling overseas to learn something, that will work nicely for non-pro in Manchester or BsA I suppose.

DJ FourMoney
12-01-05, 00:02
BsA internet is highly unreliable. The reliable sites didn't turn me on. Some are decorative girls, who you can never book. If you pre-book well in advance at a good local rate, the chance they turn up is low. Just like USA and many other places, the most reliable is you call when you are ready, or one or two hours in advance. Who knows what tomorrow will bring? They also don't quote TLN prices for most. If you ask they say they don't offer.

And if anybody turn up, prepare taxi fare and they will go with a smile if you don't want her. But it's a bit tedious.

Minorities are often disproportionally high in hookers in many countries. And they often foreign workers if the living standard is higher than neighboring countries. LA has probably more blond as anyone can afford to dye their hair with good quality blond color. Even in the best clubs and apartments, the enthicity is well mixed. You import girls because they looks better for the same rate.

For apartments, you don't have lineups of six after six after six. That's only in Asia.

Clubs, the best clubs has decent dress code so you can't see much skin as in bikini. The lighting in some clubs are dark. The hot girls often hang out with their regular groups. In other clubs, girls keep coming up so you have a hard time to turn them all down so as to have a good look around.

The good thing is that La Recoleta Cemetry is on the world's list of places to visit. (But no one told me that, but I saw the outside everyday.) And if you are a startup professional USA football (soccer) team travelling overseas to learn something, that will work nicely for non-pro in Manchester or BsA I suppose.Actually she lives in Blackpool, the closest airport is Manchester.

I totally agree with you on all points and I have started to re-think what I would do down there. It does look like alot of the internet chicas do not associate with the "lesser" women you find in the "Triangle". I would never setup TLN with anybody without meeting them first or even a second time.

Thanks for your input James, especially since your a local in the brotherhood.

Maloso1
12-22-05, 07:44
Suggestions.

Vacation time coming up and I wanna take a trip somewhere where the flight, board and mongering is least expensive.

Any suggestions based on your experiences?

Ladies race does not matter, luv'em all from Latinas to Asians...it's all pink inside!

Thanks,

Maloso

CBGBConnisur
12-27-05, 21:10
Germany is a good bet, take a look at the board on FKK clubs.

James D 2004
12-28-05, 00:22
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=406534&postcount=5

Routard
01-04-06, 13:06
Best bargain? Cheapest pussy?

Who cares? I have seen a lot of places in Africa where you can get sex for as low as 500F CFA, which is less than a 1$. Who cares if you can find it for 0.5$, 1$ or 2$ if you need to pay ME for 100 000$ before I will agree to put my dick in it!

But what if you can fuck a 20 year old gorgeous blonde goddess with an incredible body that looks like Cameron Diaz in an upscale clean safe and legal environment in a developped country for only...25 bucks?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=414531&postcount=576

James D 2004
01-05-06, 00:10
To each his own, FKK is just one example, the best for FKK fans of course. See discussion at http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=408171&postcount=6

Maloso1
01-06-06, 06:33
I think from the research and prices it looks like a trip to Europe is what I'm settling on, found airfare from L.A. to Spain for $350 R/T, from there I'll probably take the train to France and Germany home of the FKK clubs!

Was thinking Argentina or Brasil but airfare is double, even though expenses are probably cheaper.

So it looks like a European mongering trip.

Thanks for the input all.

Maloso

Larry Spence
01-06-06, 18:54
Guys,

I still have a lot of travelling and mongering to get through but here's my view on best places.

I am reasonably impressed with Poland. The girls there can offer good service and can be very beautiful. There are the obvious language problems and prices are starting to creep. I'm looking forward to FKK experience, it's criminal that I have neither been there nor to Prague when (for a UK resident) they are more or less on my doorstep. Holland quite good but the pros are a bit boring the way they add 20 euros on for everything. You can go in for a 50 Euro suck and fuck and end up paying 90-100 for what you actually want ie a bit of doggie or to actually feel their tits (shock horror)

As for UK, Manchester wins hands down and still offers excellent value for money for filthy fun. If I go to Poland, I've spent a few hundred sterling on my hotel and flight so a 'Larry goes mad in Manchester' would probably have a similar effect on my wallet to 'Larry goes mad in Warsaw'.

If you guys can spend a few days in Manchester England you have to do the Bury- Manchester city centre run - there are dozens of brothels starting from 'The Wonder Lounge' (Great girls, great service) and 'Arabesque' (mediocre looking but really mucky) in Bury town centre all the way down the Bury Old Road, through Whitefield, you'll pass Hayleys, Sandy's Superstars, Gemini, Julie's, Bunty's, Salon 24, International massage etc etc until you hit Manchester City Centre and places like selecta 2000 where you can get 30mins with a girl for £40, £5 extra for deep french kissing.

Buy the Manchester Evening News and you'll see them all advertised - with a little research guys and a command of the English language you will find this place a real Mecca for fun (although I am a little bit biased to UK) - at many of these establishments you can get 30-40mins (no time wasting bullshit) for £45-50 with girls who at WL and Sandy's consistently push 7-9 and are very horny and friendly.

Happy mongering.

Helios X
01-07-06, 20:16
How is Greece and Israel for STR girls?

CBGBConnisur
01-08-06, 02:27
Value for pussy, probably this would go to Brazil, although airfare is expensive, the quality of sex is in the stratosphere. Some parts of Europe are suprisingly affordable, Costa Del Sol in Spain during the summer months is a good bet.

Osafado
01-08-06, 13:17
Many times I ve heard that Argentina was a girls nest. Beauties everywhere. Maybe of one you could tell me more about it?

Hi Osafado,

Please visit http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/

Thanks,

Jackson

James D 2004
01-10-06, 20:07
People who are content where they are are the minorities. That's the natural pyramid of things within each organization. Poor countries like the welfare and opportunities of richer countries. Rich Asian countries like the bigger and cheaper houses in Europe. And the goods are cheaper because the rent of the shops are much cheaper. Europeans want the bigger and cheaper houses in USA. Even today the CA prices are quite good. And with the minute VAT the prices are made in heaven. Guess what, Americans want the bigger and cheaper houses in Australia.

But the Australians like to travel, so much so that there is a constant stream of transient population in the Kangaroo Valley - Earl's Court in East London. Some take months and years of their life to travel until they broke then they recover over there. There's lots of Australian hookers too, which are rather good but nowadays not as good as the Eastern Europeans.

If you like Australians London and Munich is even better in the summer months and if you make it to Oct. These are not just any Australians, but selected Australians who want to get wild away from home. I've met an Irish Catholic. That's the 1st thing her friend told everybody, so that we are all clear about her aim, and so that we should excuse her behavior. I went to their room to say goodbye but end up in her bed talking and drinking. I decided to let my hair down when the black security guard of the cheap B&B came in to check the no. of occupancy in the room. I could have paid up for a bed and do it in one of the twin bed while the other watching, TV or whatever. But I took the chance and left.

In the Beer Fest, while I was walking around gathering my private army of Israeli girls just out of army training camp, an Australian guy grabbed me and asked me to join them. He even pointed to a girl like he has been taking care of like his little sister. I couldn't help because I had already had an army to take care of. The boys all went off for anyone that are not one of their own, so they can get crazy enough to chat up a girl while pissing.

Italian girls are more open to aliens. I think they all love Americans better than the other Europeans. There are some beach resort towns where the GI goes. The girls will hit you up as long as you can possibily be a GI.

DirkDingy
01-10-06, 22:59
In the Beer Fest, while I was walking around gathering my private army of Israeli girls just out of army training camp, an Australian guy grabbed me and asked me to join them. He even pointed to a girl like he has been taking care of like his little sister. I couldn't help because I had already had an army to take care of. The boys all went off for anyone that are not one of their own, so they can get crazy enough to chat up a girl while pissing..Israeli girls are very beautiful, I met the love of my life, a gal from Haifa, on Kho San Road. They are also quite cliquish...more so than any other group of folks I have ever met. They almost always travel in packs, are usually not very approachable, and its very difficult to penetrate their tight knight social group. But they are absolute monsters in bed.

Helios X
01-11-06, 03:53
Israeli girls are very beautiful, I met the love of my life, a gal from Haifa, on Kho San Road. They are also quite cliquish...more so than any other group of folks I have ever met. They almost always travel in packs, are usually not very approachable, and its very difficult to penetrate their tight knight social group. But they are great absolute monsters in bed.From what i heard, that's true. But once you enter their group, they are going to be the best friends you ever had(according to various sources).

James D 2004
01-13-06, 20:51
Being middle eastern, the Israeli look encompasses the Red sea to the Black Sea. I guess they look Ethiopian to Russian, South and North European, Arabian and Persian.

My group has a girl that looks like Cleopatra. Million dollar plastic surgery couldn't get you that eyes and nose. I couldn't keep my eyes out of her when we 1st met. The other reason is that her perfect head rest on a balloon like body. She was still very young and not at all flabby. She told me that she recently took the pill and suffers the common side effect of ballooning, and she lost her boy friend.

They are indeed rather good friends. One boy will hit any Asian girls he saw, bring me along as the partner with the brain, and he's the partner with the looks. But I rather be the other way round. The other bigger boy basically earn his respects with a bullet hole on his chest. He cheers everybody up with his constant dumb Rambo impressions, whenever I do something serious like reading. His favorite pick up line is I'm dumb or I'm a Jew, and that works in the circumstances. It's he who showed me how to try chatting up a girl while pissing, and hitting up 12 year old students on a school trip. All for laughs and harmless fun. I went extreme downhill cart racing. The lack of body mass to overcome fiction made me fly off many feet off the tracks to keep up. I fell onto the finishing line from 10 ft, sliding pass the line behind my cart. Two of the girls rushed to the wreckage and carried me off. I wasn't broken, but seriously scratched on both elbows. They patched me up simultaneously - army quality with proper bandages. On several occasions, I did spend a long time together on Cleopatra's bed, in public. She also let me into her hotel room once when nobody's around. Either I didn't want to hurt my other chances, or I was carried away by Antony day dreams. I thought she hated me for just talking. But the next summer, I got her letter saying that she wanted to visit me. After all, what does a general's daughter do when she also wanted to get wild for a while?

Goldfinger
03-07-06, 14:08
Rod Liddle

An opinion poll of young European men recently asked which of the Continent’s women they would most like to sleep with. Italian and French girls took the honours, but there was a strong showing from the Swedish ladies, which shows that a lot of gentlemen really do prefer blondes, even if they’re likely to harangue you about Third World debt and gender inequalities before, after or even during the act of intercourse. British girls were nowhere in sight, but we should not reflect too sadly upon this — because there was another question a little further down the page, and our babes won by a mile. It asked, which country’s women have you already slept with? Absolutely no contest.

This propensity of British girls to give of themselves, selflessly, over and over again, their minds seemingly unpoisoned by even the vaguest notions of discrimination, is excellent news for our tourism industry, which over the last few years has shown greater growth than any other in Europe. Youth tourism (meaning for those under the age of 35 — you may have noticed that the definition of ‘youth’ has gloriously expanded in recent years, perhaps in line with the increasing age of our population) constitutes a respectable 20 per cent of the world market. Aside from being lucrative, it also, according to the World Tourism Organisation, ‘plays a highly important social integration function’, a concept which British girls have taken to their hearts in a most committed and literal fashion. So about this time each year, when Europe’s young men mull over their holiday options, their limited budgets mean that they are apt to forget that what they really yearn for is to sink back into the fragrant, sophisticated embrace of a Collette or Gina; they are rational, they go for what is achievable — a quick knee-trembler by the bins behind the local KFC from a Kylie or a Kelis. They may indeed end up with a pig in a poke, but at least it will be an amenable and accommodating pig. A guaranteed poke in a pig, in fact.

The question which British tourism chiefs should be asking one another is why this should be the case, why British women are so much more accommodating than the girls of Spain, Luxembourg or Belgium. After all, one should always very carefully look a gift horse in the mouth.

In fact, this is a comparatively recent phenomenon. British girls were not always ‘easy’, as they say; ease of access has been thrust upon them somehow during the last 30 or 40 years and with a wholeheartedness that is not yet apparent on the European mainland. It has been a quite remarkable social change and one not frequently commented upon, except obliquely, perhaps for reasons of political correctness. It is, of course, a woman’s right to choose to have an infinite number of sexual partners if she so wishes, and not one which we ought to question. And so, over the last half-century or so, the average number of sexual partners enjoyed by women in their mid-twenties has risen from zero or one to 12 or 14. The number of sexual partners enjoyed by similarly aged men has increased too, although not nearly so dramatically. From which one can perhaps deduce that there is a gap between doing and admitting; men still admit to having had more sexual partners than women, but the gap is narrowing by the year. The real social change, then, has not been in male behaviour — which is much as it ever was — but in female behaviour. The old, traditional notion that women were the ‘gatekeepers’ to sexual intercourse has dissolved, for one reason or another. British women are not guarding their gates with anything like the discipline or rigour which they once did or, so it would seem, women still do 20 miles away across the Channel.

The reasons cited for such a change and discrepancy usually fit the political prejudices of the people advancing them. The decline of the Established Church in Britain and as a result the winnowing away of such notions as deferred gratification (a formerly potent, Protestant-derived ethic now almost extinct in every walk of British life) and the consequent absence of any ideological justification for sexual virtue and virginity, for example. But there’s not much doubt that this is in the mix somewhere. Weddings now seem to be viewed as enjoyable, if expensive, social gatherings which can be repeated with impunity every four or five years or so. We might also aver that the pull of the Roman Catholic Church in Spain, France and Italy has declined far less markedly. But it is hard to make a case for Britain as a more secular country than, say, Holland and Denmark, or even the Protestant tranche of Germany.

The fashionable explanation these days is alcohol or, to use the government-approved buzz phrase, ‘binge-drinking’. Or, to use the gender-appropriate term from the glossy magazines — the ‘ladette’ culture of young women drinking vast amounts of alcohol and then, having chemically removed their inhibitions, physically removing their clothes at the drop of a hat. We are told ad infinitum by bourgeois commentators that over here we do not have a culture which properly understands or appreciates alcohol; instead of enjoying a nice glass of Sancerre with our meal at an agreeable pavement café, accompanied by, say, a plate of olives and some peasant-recipe crusty bread, we swallow vast gallons of acrid plonk with a bag of Walkers and then throw up in the bushes and stagger home with an ill-considered partner. But these dark ruminations ignore two crucial factors. Firstly, British women do not succumb unwittingly to the depredations of Wikid and Archers and so on and then helplessly surrender their virtues. They drink vast quantities in order to partake of ad-hoc sexual intercourse: the intention was there at the beginning of the evening — and if you doubt that, look at what they chose to wear when they were still sober. Alcohol may lubricate the romantic, moist rummagings by the bins behind the KFC, but I would argue that the motive was present already, m’Lud.

It is hard, too, to blame radical feminism. Sure, what began as a movement almost pathologically distrustful of men has evolved into an ideology which has embraced us beyond our wildest dreams. I well remember a former girlfriend of mine informing me sadly, by means of an explanation for her outrageous act of infidelity with a close friend, that she had been ‘programmed by the patriarchal society never to say no to a man’ and hence she’d been coerced by the white male hegemony into shagging my mate. On a dhurrie. She had not meant to, but she had. That was back in about 1981, the time of the Greenham Common women and organisations called ‘Neasden Wimmin Against Everything’ and so on, a time when one simply did not demur in the face of feminist arguments about, well, anything. Since then the thesis has evolved from ‘We can’t say no!’ to ‘Why the hell should we say no?’, which is, frankly, fine by me. But again, it is difficult to make the argument that feminism was any more strident in Britain than it was in Germany or Holland.

It may, in the end, prove to be a combination of all of these factors, allied to perpetual exposure to a popular press and televisual media that are obsessed with sexual intercourse in all of its increasingly diverse manifestations. Sex lurches towards us from every conceivable, sulphurous angle. Even Tories have sex these days, quite openly: what is the world coming to?

My suspicion is that British girls ‘put out’, as the Americans have it, because they are expected to and because there is no reason not to. They are doing what society — and Italian male tourists — expect of them, without fear or favour. If you think they are wrongheaded in their behaviour, then think quickly and invent a reason for them to change their behaviour. Meanwhile, the rest of Europe can lie back and simply enjoy


Read the full Sex and Society survey at www.yougov.com/archives/spectator

Carribbean
03-17-06, 07:39
What kind of jobs do you have that enables you to travel a lot or gives you the freedom to travel a lot?

Routard
04-03-06, 15:02
No one dared to answer Stpradiohead question so far, even if it is a major one. I guess probably because most of us don’t want to reveal too much about their personal life. Let me try it. I imagine there are a lot of silent readers who wonder how all those lucky bastards manage to travel around the world and screw hundreds of girls. Here are the clues.

There are two kinds of travellers, those who do it for their job and are paid for it and those who need to pay to travel.

There are two kinds of professional travellers, the short time travellers and the expats. From a mongering point of view, best is to be a short time traveller. Your family stays safely at home while you are spending the company’s money in hotels, restaurants, airplanes, taxis which allows you to screw hundreds of women around the world. Once at home, you are again the responsible father and husband taking care of his family. No one will ever notice you live different lives.

Being an expat mongerer is an option only for single IMHO. Be aware that in third world countries, there is no straight line between the pros and the amateurs. Sooner or later, your private life will be mixed with your mongering life. Even single mongerers need to be mentally very strong to separate those two lives. I’m an expat myself, I’ve lived for many years all over the world, but I’ve always followed this basic rule I made for myself: I never monger in the country where I live.

Back to the question, how to become a professional traveller? It is actually quite easy to find a job like this. The world economy is becoming more and global and most people simply don’t want to leave home. There is a lack of skilled people ready to travel. Don’t tell me none of these fields may apply to you:

Government sector: diplomatic staff, militaries, Intelligence…
Non-governmental: humanitarian volunteers…
Transport sector: pilots, stewards, sailors…
Technical private sector: electricians, automations, mechanicals, welders, fitters, site managers (oil, industry, construction, high-tech….)
Business private sector: sales managers, financial investors…
Management private sector: foreign subsidiary manager, project managers …
Professionals without location: writers, computer programmers, artists…

If you are not ready to leave your actual job that doesn’t allow you to travel, then you simply need to pay for it. Then again, there are the short time and the long time travellers. Huh, long time tourists? Yess!!! There are plenty of lucky bastards, fully retired (I know some of them that are still young, but they have earned enough money to stop working) and leaving abroad in a tropical paradise with plenty of pussy.

There are two major issues, money and family. Money is not the major one. Anyone can afford a short time vacation, take a car and drive either to Montreal or Tijuana from USA or to Frankfurt, Barcelona or Prague from Europe. Even far away, on the long term, it may be less expensive abroad than staying at home in countries like Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, Colombia…

Family is a much bigger issue. Some lucky bastards have the balls once the children are grown up to kick their wife out of their life and take back their freedom and dignity and go to live as a king in paradise with their well earned money for the last remaining years. Most don’t love enough their wife to be happy to have her as the sole sex supplier for the rest of life. But most don’t hate their wife enough to throw her away like a peace of shit after all those years spend together. So, most continue living together, paying for being ruled, listening to female bullshits without sex rewards while the years are passing…

It will be tough convincing your wife to live in Thailand once retired. Some manage to do it, just make a compromise on which country she would like to go to.

Still, she will easily accept to go on vacation in a tropical paradise for a few weeks. Just make sure to book a country allowing short daytime sex supply.

Here my best advise: manage to take some vacation alone. Just do it. What will she do, leave you? Even better! In fact you may be surprised how easily she will accept it. Some just simply can't believ that she will accept it and prefer to come with some bullshit about a professional trip. It's up to you. If you act naturally, not as if you are guilty, you don't need to lie. She probably also needs a break and is tired of having you all day long at home. Here a few clues:

Take Spanish courses, the training school organises at the end of the year a week of intensive practise in Mexico.
Take salsa lessons, there is a week of intensive dancing in Cuba.
Go sporting every week with a hiking club, they go each year all together hiking a week abroad.
Take sail lessons, the last session is around the Caribbean.
Archeology is your new hobby and after some time, you really want to discover the Maya temples.
You want to find back your roots, you definitely need to visit the country where your ancestors came from.
You have always wanted to visit the Amazone in survival conditions.
Go with your buddy to the famous beer festival in Munich, or the automobile mess in Frankfurt, no wife will be suspicious about Germany (haha!).

Whatever, it doesn’t matter, just go. Life is short.

Once she starts to allow herself also to travel alone and go shopping in London, Paris or New York, you have reached your goal. You don't need anymore to come up with a complicated story, each it's own freedom for a week or two every year, but probably not for the same purpose!

Member #1005
04-03-06, 20:57
Routard

Just following up on your post where you made some great points however, if I may just add my two Pesos worth;


One: what you should remember that a company doesn’t send people overseas if they can already find the skills set in the country you are going to. You are not going to get a job, just because of your passport because unless you have something special to offer that cannot already be found in the country you wish to work in then forget it. In Asia, Africa and Latin American you can get five or six able degree educated people for what it would cost to send you overseas.


Two: remember it’s not a holiday it’s 100% work, so at the end of the day you still have to produce the goods. If you are unable to work then why else would they send you over there - just to fuck the local women?


Three: at times it’s a solitary life despite the fact that yes you have access to many hot women, many who'll wish to fuck you as much as you want them, but I believe its already been mentioned in the forum but you don’t shit on your own doorstep. Hookers are a good option for short time relief; I know many descent professional women in the Philippines who I maintain a 100% professional relationship but non sexual.


Four: most companies expect you to be at their beck and call at all hours despite the fact that it might be nearly midnight your time, and many of the calls could easily be dealt with using just an e-mail. I have had incidents where the telephone has not rang once all day and then at 10pm whilst getting a BBBJ in the Star of Light, in Bangkok and then the phone goes off, all I could do was take the call an carry on business like, as the girl went about her business. Fate has a way of doing such things to you.


Five: Its hard on your body physically, many times I have worked all week then on Friday night fly to the other side of the world and be expected to be ready to work first thing Monday morning in Melbourne. Trust me it might look glamorous at first travelling business class and staying in five star hotels but there is no way you can hit the drink, if you have to work, when I am coming back from Asia I prefer eat before I catch my flight then sleep as much as I can on the way back, because the moment you get home you are expected to get straight back into work, after a 14 hour flight, land at 5am and in work for 9am. You need to keep fit and there are many things you can do to beat the serious effects of jet-lag

OK you still want to work overseas? You think its all about the money, I have seen many guys doing long term postings who have long term girlfriend and enviably they end up taking care of these girls even though they have no plans on marrying them. But at the end of their time they do not end up as much money as planned. I recall one guy who was paying for his Brazilian girlfriend in a three year college course and was also planning to leave her the $35,000 flat they were sharing; OK he also had a flat in London, which he was renting out whilst he was overseas, but he was happy with the arrangement.

Working overseas has many good points but like any job on the flip side there are also the down sides.

Hardbarg
04-04-06, 14:17
I’d like to ask a related, but slightly different question. Suppose you wanted to become a true citizen of the world/monger. Leave aside family and work considerations. Assume fluency in English and possibly able to pick up one other language. Where is the best place to choose as your base of operations? That is, a place to keep a home, but where you would only spend small amounts of time between excursions. Or, is it better to just cut yourself loose and have no permanent address? Is that even feasible?

Artisttyp
04-04-06, 17:20
I've wondered that myself but for all kinds of security and health reasons you need someplace in america at least I do.Once you have a health issue your not going to feel comfortable being someplace foreign.I recently picked up a stomach virus while traveling in jamaica and that was a huge wake up call for me.
I'm working on giving myself the freedom to go away for a few months or weeks then come back.I dont like to be back for long but at least I can recoup my energies and plan my next journey.At some point maybe I'll find someplace I'm extremely comfortable with enough to plop myself down but I think being a "world citizen" is way more intresting.Also the way politics are shaping up you never know whats going to happen were you are so I wouldn't put all my energy into one place unless you really love it and see a future there.

Chocha Monger
04-04-06, 22:33
I’d like to ask a related, but slightly different question. Suppose you wanted to become a true citizen of the world/monger. Leave aside family and work considerations. Assume fluency in English and possibly able to pick up one other language. Where is the best place to choose as your base of operations? That is, a place to keep a home, but where you would only spend small amounts of time between excursions. Or, is it better to just cut yourself loose and have no permanent address? Is that even feasible?
The answer as to where would be your best location as a base of operations would depend on what kind of meat you fancy white, dark, hispanic or oriental.

Cutting yourself loose is entirely possible with online billing and such things. You might still need a physical address for one or two things but you can fix that easily with a mail service company. If you don't need to be employed to earn an income and you're in good health, I'd say that it is quite easy to roam the world mongering without being tied to any one place.

Ezinho
04-05-06, 15:25
I've wondered that myself but for all kinds of security and health reasons you need someplace in america at least I do.Once you have a health issue your not going to feel comfortable being someplace foreign.I recently picked up a stomach virus while traveling in jamaica and that was a huge wake up call for me.


This is an interesting statement, Artisttyp, and I have to assume that you must have very good health insurance from your employer or something. As you know I am currently living in Ecuador; I haven't been to to the doctor here yet, but do have a dentist here, and I can honestly say that the dental care I recieve here in Ecuador is 5 times better than that in the US; granted, I have to pay out of pocket for all my services, but since I am self employed in the US, I have to pay 100% of my insurance premiums in the States anyways, which can run up to $200 or more a month depending on the plan, and I'm a young, healthy guy! (I often wonder how people with pre-existing conditions even get health insurance in the US). Also, I know a few people in California who actually LEAVE the country and go to Mexico to see the doctor/dentist, or (especially) to get their prescriptions filled, because it's so expensive in the US. Even with my insurance, the co-pays and deductables were starting to get out of hand. At least here in Ecuador if I need to go to the doctor, I don't need to get 'authorized' by an insurance company, or go into debt in order to pay my deductables/co-pays.

If all that's keeping you from ex-patriating is the 'healthcare system' in the US, I urge you to reconsider. There are some excellent, American trained doctors overseas that cost much less to see than the monthly insurance premiums people pay in the states. IMHO, the American health care system is like an American Woman, overpriced and not worth the hassle.

Artisttyp
04-05-06, 16:50
I have heard that some medical practices are better in foreign countries such as the phillipines for dentistry.I guess my concern would be knowing someone to set me up with the "right" doctor. I would hate to play the process of elimination with my health.It sounds like someone steered you in the right direction and your satisfied with the service you are getting.I still haven't gotten out of my protective bubble with that issue.
I have heard horror stories as well when traveling for medical procedures.Mexico has been the source of many reports of malpractice especially when it comes to plastic surgery.It all depends where you get your source of referal from.I'd be intrested to know who you trusted to lead you to proper medical care? Is there a list of american doctors by country somewhere on the net? You bring up a valid point thank you for addressing these concerns.
I do have good health care here and yes it is provided to me through a company I used to work for that settled a discrimination suit with me...long story.
I'd like to be in ecuador sometime within the next 6 months so maybe we can discuss this issue more at that time.I'm very jealous that you are there now screwing $7 plump culo.Que aproveche lo que usted tiene.

Elberto
04-05-06, 18:40
The reason we are able to take advantage of inexpensive mongering is the disequilibrium between between the US/Europe economy and personal incomes vs. the countries we visit. If you are established in a rich country it only makes sense to keep your home base there and travel abroad. If you are a smart fellow you can arrange your finances so that your trips and expenses are tax-deductible.

The Northeast US is convenient for Europe, Southeast for the Caribbean and Latin America, and the West Coast for Asia. Europe seems to be a good destination itself.

As far as health considerations, I'm not sure if US health care is any better than anywhere else, in general. There are stories in the news all the time how the US spends more money on healthcare than any other country but doesn't rank near the top of the healthiest populations.

Hardbarg
04-06-06, 02:54
The theoretical goal (fantasy) is to fuck my way around the planet - one per country. That requires being on the move for extended periods of time, and frequently. I own stuff, and need a place to keep it. Say it costs $12000 / year to maintain a residence in the US (a very low estimate in the area where I currently live). For the sake of discussion, say you can stay in hotels for $50/night while travelling. I have no idea what the world average would be, but I like hot water, plumbing, quiet, and a lock on the door. I think this is also a low estimate. That's easily $15000/year. $27000 total and I haven't even been kissed yet. It's effectively keeping 2 households, one of which you hardly ever use. Plenty of other expenses while travelling. Getting that $12000 figure down as far as possible is important.

The other model is to live out of a suitcase permanently. My guess would be that requires buying quite a bit of stuff at each major stop, and then jettisoning on departure. It's not clear this is any cheaper. I'd probably want to start with option 1 and evolve to this mode.

So the question remains, if you can set up shop anywhere in the world, what's the best choice?

Elberto
04-09-06, 18:27
I have been reading about Aussie Greg's Medellin Mansion in Colombia, where they have established a party house for mongers, with pool parties, guided trips to local clubs and restaurants, as well as an introduction service for local ladies.

I think this sounds like a fantastic way to get a running start with a city and it's women.

Are there other cities that have places like the Medellin Mansion? I'm mostly interested in Central/South America or Eastern Europe, but I'd like to hear about any that exist.

Thanks

Elberto
04-10-06, 07:39
I have been reading the forums and I've found a couple more hotels that cater to the monger crowd.

Blackbeards in Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic

Livingstone’s Lodge in Bangkok

Taiwan Laowai
04-11-06, 17:01
Hardbarg,

Consider Thailand, either Bangkok or Pattaya.

1. Very low cost of living (rent, food, drinks, taxis, girls, etc.), esp. Pattaya

2. Very safe day and night

3. First world convenience (ATMs, banks, western restaurants, bars, huge expat communities, Skytrain, state of the art shopping malls, taxis with a/c, etc.)

4. Well developed and low cost mongering scene (one of the most popular in the world) which caters to almost any niche

5. Excellent base for low cost travel - cheap and frequent non-stop flights to mongering destinations such as China (Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Xiamen, Guangzhou), Africa (Addis Ababa, Nairobi w/connections to west Africa, Johanessburg), Russia (Moskow, St. Petersberg), Eastern Europe, Indonesia, the Philippines, Cambodia, Burma, etc. Low cost non-stop flights are also available to the USA or Australia for connections to Central and South American countries.

6. Great non-pro possibilities if you learn the culture, language, etc.

Taiwan Laowai
04-11-06, 17:06
Elberto,

There are several similar places in Cali (I think they call themselves marriage agencies), one or two in Cartegena, and don't forget Jackson's mansion in Argentina. You should be able to find information on these in the relevenant sections of the forum.

George90
04-12-06, 00:10
Elberto,
There are several similar places in Cali (I think they call themselves marriage agencies),

TL,

I have stayed at couple of those places in Cali that call themselves "marriage agencies". My experience was that they call themselves marriage agencies because they **ARE** marriage agencies! The first one I stayed at was called the Crystal Palace in an upscale part of Cali. The owner has since sold the agency and it moved to somewhere else. Another one was in the same neighborhood and run by the Latin-Internet agency. It moved last year to a cheaper place.

These places were legitimate and the ladies I met were sincerely looking for serious relationships with foreign men. I heard stories of gold-diggers. I met one in a Cartagena agency. You can tell them from a mile away. But even the gold-diggers do not advertise that they will trade sex for money. Marriage agencies are not brothels. In fact, Crystal Palace, and others, had a rule that a man could NOT bring a lady to his room.

For P4P action, go to Blackbeard's and other similar places that are EXCLUSIVELY for mongerng.

Jayf1970
04-18-06, 04:38
Fellow mongers,

Its time for the summer mongering vacation! Number one on my list, of course, is Brazil. But thought I'll drop a line on the forum if people might have other recommendations.

I read a little about the FKK's and they sound a lot like the therma's in Rio, which is my most favorite place of action in Rio. So that sounds like a good option. Are there any other mongering venues in Germany - i.e. other than fkk's? A lot of the fun in going to Rio - particularly Copacabana - is that sex is in the air. A lot of the girls you see, you know you can have for money. If going to Germany for mongering, whats the city / part of the country is best to visit?

How about other destinations? I have been to Thailand and will go back if I'm in that part of the world again, but not from US northeast. Any other destinations in Europe worth traveling to from the US exclusively for mongering?

Apologies if these questions have been already answered. Thanks a lot in advance and promise to post my experiences.

DirkDingy
04-18-06, 12:41
Simply put: Colombia is the best place for mongering in the region. The women are prettier than Brazillian women on average and its cheaper. There is also more variety..the number of euro looking chicks are less than Argentina but more so than Brazil. Don't know what kind of meat you like.

In Europe, the best place for Mongering is Moscow, you can fuck a centerfold quality girl for 300-450 all nite from NF in Moscow. There are also lineups and apts/salons. Plus Russia has a plethora of other things to offer during the daytime. If you are averse to Russia then hit Prague...it's more organized but not quite as fun as Moscow.

HTH

Jayf1970
04-22-06, 16:34
I'm considering Colombia. Cartagena looks like a great place to hang out and screw. How is the quality of the experience compared to Brazil? Do most of the chica's get into it - i.e. do you get a real gfe? I have been to Rio a few times and was really blown away. I am into full figured white women.

Another concern I have with Colombia is safety? Anything to be worried about?

I am doing my homework going thru the forum, but would appreciate a quick work from you friendly, knowledgeable folks.

Promise to share any new info.

Thanks again - Jay

DirkDingy
04-24-06, 19:31
cartegena has less euro looking chicks than bogota or cali. yes, you can get GFEs in colombia. colombia, at least the zona rosa (or roja) is safe in bogota and cart is completely safe. i've only been to colombia twice and brazil once so my experience is limited.

HTH

Yupi Yup
05-02-06, 15:31
Fellow mongers,

Its time for the summer mongering vacation! Number one on my list, of course, is Brazil. But thought I'll drop a line on the forum if people might have other recommendations.

I read a little about the FKK's and they sound a lot like the therma's in Rio, which is my most favorite place of action in Rio. So that sounds like a good option. Are there any other mongering venues in Germany - i.e. other than fkk's? A lot of the fun in going to Rio - particularly Copacabana - is that sex is in the air. A lot of the girls you see, you know you can have for money. If going to Germany for mongering, whats the city / part of the country is best to visit?

How about other destinations? I have been to Thailand and will go back if I'm in that part of the world again, but not from US northeast. Any other destinations in Europe worth traveling to from the US exclusively for mongering?

Apologies if these questions have been already answered. Thanks a lot in advance and promise to post my experiences.For start up my experience is based on Europe and Far East.

First FKKs: that is the best option for mongering you can come across especially if you are into EE girls.

You can read a lot about the FKKs but there are a few advantages that makes them special.

1. There is no way you can get ripped off. Everything is standard cost.

2. Facilities are great, very clean and many thing to do in between sessions

3. A lot of variety, in average at the big FKKs you will get at least 30-40 girls working at a night. If you cant find what you want among 30 I don't have much to say about it

4. You do not have to wait for certain time during night for action to start, they mostly open before noon and stay open till 4-5am.

I traveled pretty much all the europe and nothing in europe can beat this.

About Thailand: if you havent been to pattaya I find it more enjoyable than the capital

KnickFan
05-06-06, 01:36
I'm talking about the healthy girls with Badookadunks. What are the best countries for that?

Bud Leeeeeeee
05-25-06, 05:56
recommend. I am feeling the asian persuasion. There are tons of them in San Diego. I have been wanting to spray them down for a long time. Where can I go get a taste of just about everything.

I read Shanghai has a relaxed 60day visa where many asians go to make quick money. That would take care of Phillipino, Indo, Viet, Cambodian and Chinese. I seem to remember reading that Columbian and Russian can be had there too. Again its all about 60days easy no-hassel visa's and again the girls flock there to get busy. ;)

My buddy on the other hand wants to Prague then to Istanbul and to Russia(St Petersburg). Pics are really making my sign up for these locations. Prague I have been to and it did indeed look promising. Very hot young ladies working the strip clus or whatever you want to call it. Planning on leaving within 60 days.

Whats your take? China weather in late July OK? I can research that just starting to ramble. I know the Phillipines is too hot etc. Thats why I was hoping Shanghai was a one stop shop.

2 1/2 weeks might be too long for mongering in one place grrrrrrrrrrr. I have read tons its overwhelming.

Order of importance
- hot chicks from all over the world if possible
- bbbj
- english speaking would be cool (asians especially pinoy's are good english)
- weather
- sight seeing
- cost isn't so much a factor. I promise not to jack the locals over paying.
- not sure it matters but I am 35 fit good looking and only speak english.


I could do some FKK clubs. From reading it looks as if they have a little of everything from all different countries.

If in town I could do TJ with you! No BBBJ period if you can believe it. ;( Tons to bone but they want you to work. Thats a whole different story on a different board.

Also been to Costa Rica but that was all south American without any asian action.

Please help with advice we are leaning towards the Prague, Istanbul (could get ugly here), St Petersburg (probably get ripped or pay tall money and get lousy service)

Tia,

bl

Ferris Bueller
07-02-06, 18:13
Hi guys,

I'm reasonaby new to the hobby and this forum has been brilliant for helping me avoid making silly mistakes and learning the hard way.

I now have a week (this week) free and want to go somewhere in Europe, and recommendations would be very welcome.

I'm interested in countries where I stand a reasonable chance of picking up local chicks in bars, and if that doesn't work out, the p4p fallback options should be good. I'm early 30s and reasonably fit/not bad looking so don't have too much trouble picking up women, but sometimes its just too much hard work if you know what I mean ;-)

I'm also of Indian origin, I found that can have a reasonable level of influence on my chances of success in both pickup and p4p situations in my experience, so I was thinking of going somewhere where I'd stand out and be in a minority. Can be tricky sometimes, for example in Thailand or in South America my european friends get a lot of attention just for being european, while I (despite often being fitter and better-looking) had to work a lot harder as I looked more like a local. (This isn't a criticism by the way, just an observation on how the world works - the more different you are the more interesting you are to the local ladies!). So I was thinking of sweden (bad for p4p i know) or finland or iceland or maybe poland...woud love to hear people's views. Turkey sounded interesting too but Istanbul may be a bit too hot this time of year!

I'm not a total one-track-minded monger and quite enjoy taking in some culture and good food, and partaking of a decent nightlife...so not really interested in going to some godforsaken corner of the world just because p4p happens to be good value for money!

Zde
10-20-06, 21:12
Hello,

I got an offer to fly to the following destinations:

Bangkok
Singapore
Tokyo
Bombay
Johannesburg
Nairobi
Sao Paulo

I was wondering whether I could get an advice as to what destination to choose. My criteria are as follows: since I live on a fix income I am looking for a reasonably cheap place, since I am disabled I am looking for a place which might be friendly towards people with disabilities, for a place with relatively low crime and cheap accommodation. I am looking for a place with low std rate and cheap service providers, I am willing to branch to other cities or countries from the destinations mentioned above so I am looking for a place which can be interested in a traveler as well.

Thank you very much for your help.

CBGBConnisur
11-02-06, 01:01
Poland is one of the best places in the world for the hobby, Prague is a bit overpriced for the EE region, you can get just as good quality in other places in the East. I would say a lot of Eastern Europe is pretty good.

Jesterl
11-14-06, 02:12
Poland is one of the best places in the world for the hobby, Prague is a bit overpriced for the EE region, you can get just as good quality in other places in the East. I would say a lot of Eastern Europe is pretty good.I want to shift from asia, now that I am getting closer to marriage age. I can get a solid job in Western Germany. Is this too far from Poland. How bad is Poland? You always here that they're running prisoners from guantanomo or have super-conservative governments? How are the women in relation to other EE countries? Snob-factor, looks etc.?

The Greek
11-20-06, 15:15
Hello,

I got an offer to fly to the following destinations:

Bangkok
Singapore
Tokyo
Bombay
Johannesburg
Nairobi
Sao Paulo

My criteria are as follows: I am looking for a place with low std rate and cheap service providers, I am willing to branch to other cities or countries from the destinations mentionedJohannesburg is veru very very dangerous.

Sao Paolo could be dangerous, but definitely can be expensive too.

Tokyo: propably out of most people's price range.

Singapore is cheap, safe , clean and Bangkok follows (not that high standards as Singapore).

Keep in mind that America is already used to people with disabilities. That's not the norm in other countries. Ie difficulties to access buildings enter small restaurant doors etc.

Hope that helps.

Good Luck!

CBGBConnisur
11-21-06, 13:48
Singapore is one of the better places if you have a disability. A friend who lived there told me that the providers will knock on your door if you want sex. It has the best standard of living in Asia, you won't see a wide gap between the haves and have nots that you will see elsewhere.

Blastoff
12-25-06, 03:12
I have been reading about Aussie Greg's Medellin Mansion in Colombia, where they have established a party house for mongers, with pool parties, guided trips to local clubs and restaurants, as well as an introduction service for local ladies.

I think this sounds like a fantastic way to get a running start with a city and it's women.

Are there other cities that have places like the Medellin Mansion? I'm mostly interested in Central/South America or Eastern Europe, but I'd like to hear about any that exist.

Thanks


There are many of these places available around the world and in fact, most countries and cities have them. The point is that the price is refected based on popularity and cost of living in that country and area. This is where the issue lays for many of us in the affordability aspect.

Hell you have these places readily available even in the States. There are MANY cruises, parties, clubs, hotels etc exclusively catering for mongers and mongering, the only difference between them is price and quality. If you are a multi-millionaire or better and don’t mind spending big, then this places are great fun.

I suggest that you specify the country you wish to visit as well as your fetishes (if any) and you budget and then ask around and you will find so many places willing to accommodate you, (for a price of corse).

If you are looking at easy mongering where everything is supplied and you don't even need to leave the premises (like at Huge Heffiner’s the Playboy Mansion) then these are the places for you.

Personally I have stayed at the Medellin Mansion that you mentioned and had a wonderful time but I also like to test my skills and take a few calculated risks, which raises the excitement level of the trips for me. Hell if all this travelling is only about finding pussy, then I would stay home as I can and do get plenty here in my own city for free. For me it's all about the adventure as well as the pussy. New places, faces, people and races. One of my dreams is to have sex with at least one of every race on earth before I die of old age. I am about halfway there (I mean the sex part not the dieing of old age part lol) and still going strong lol.

Best of luck and Merry Christmas.

Blastoff

Dodger Bulldog
12-25-06, 03:42
New places, faces, people and races. One of my dreams is to have sex with at least one of every race on earth before I die of old age. I am about halfway there (I mean the sex part not the dieing of old age part lol) and still going strong lol.Actually, Blastoff, that isn't very hard to do. According to the Census Bureau, there are only six races, plus "some other:"

"White alone, Black or African American alone, American Indian and Alaska Native alone, Asian alone, Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, Some other race alone and 57 possible combinations of the above six categories."

Note that "Latin" or "Hispanic" is not mentioned. It is considered to be an ethnic group, as Latins can belong to any race.

I guess now that I am divorced I need to go back to Hawaii without a wife in tow so that I can check off the last race on my dance card.

I am assuming that many of the girls I've aready done can easily qualify as "something other."

My personal goal is similar to yours, to be with one from at least 50% of the 193 countries. I know I will never be able to do them all.

At last count, my best guess is that I have made it with women from 29 countries. It is sometimes hard to tell. For example, I am assuming that all of the Koreans were from South Korea, not North Korea. Not that it would really matter...

So, what are some of the other guy's hit totals?

DB

Dodger Bulldog
12-25-06, 04:26
THICK & BBW girl LOVERS what is the best Country?

I'm talking about the healthy girls with Badookadunks. What are the best countries for that?Just stay in the USA, man, and save the airfare. You are in BBW heaven.

Even better for you - they're really easy to score, and don't cost nothin'. Harder than shit to get rid of, though.

If you can't find a BBW here, you should try getting out of the house once in a while.

I suggest you stop by Denny's.

DB

George90
12-25-06, 17:25
A popular one discussed in the forums is Black Beard's in Puerta Plata, Dominican Republic. It is supposed to have several in-house chicas as well as permitting guys to bring in their own from local clubs. I think it has a website, but I don't know its URL.

Doctor_Skank
12-26-06, 00:01
So, what are some of the other guy's hit totals?

DB
I'm at girls from 32 different countries... may have forgotten a couple as well. I also am very much into variety... my current fascination is with girls from North Africa, like Moroccans. In my experience loving , passionate girls with no inhibitions... maybe not what one have expected from an Islamic country... but I met all of them out of country, so don't know if that is part of the reason.

My last Moroccan gf liked to put either honey or yoghurt on my rod and then lick it off in a really slurpy porno-esque sloppy blowjob. Heaven.

Missing from my personal collection are some of the world's hottest nationalities I have yet to bang:

Japanese
Abyssinian
Mexican
Swedish
Iranian (but I did get Iraq!)

It's just silly statistics, but only five girls have rated triple nines (looks, body, performance) on my list:

1 Thai
2 Russians
1 Italian
1 Georgian (the country on the Black Sea/Caucasus)

The most exotic location-wise I have banged are probably:

Chechnya
Azerbaijan
Kazakhstan
Uzbekistan
Iraq
Trinidad and Tobago

What about you?