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Bango Cheito

03-08-10, 10:05

Clandestine782

03-08-10, 12:50

You may speak a few words of Spanish, but try actually making friends with Spanish speakers in your home town, and GAIN THEIR TRUST; THEN ask them what they think of your "paradise" country... they will tell you about problems with the police, the shit food, the total lack of social integration, the lousy education system etc... they will almost TO A PERSON tell you they wish they were back in their home country.

50% of all immigrants that land in the USA actually DO go back in 5 years or less..... the necessity of dodging the odd bullet or the risk of losing your cellphone to pickpockets notwithstanding....This sounds like something I have heard before. I get this line from Chinese people all the time (before they know that I can understand Chinese). It is usually something like (in reference to something that has been reported on the news or some topic that comes up in office discussion): "Oh, that person does not speak Chinese, so he cannot possibly understand." And if you do understand Chinese, then there will be complaints that you don't understand it well enough for the argument at hand. (Nevermind that when I am on different conversation jobs, I listen to the argument that is being made and not the grammar.) Long story short: Nice try, but I have already heard that argument and it didn't work then.

If they go back to where they come from, that is fine with me. I live here in China and I take the same buses as Chinese people and eat the same food and speak to them in their language. (I NEVER begin any conversation anywhere in English. If someone speaks to me in English, then I answer them in Chinese and we each speak our second language for the duration of the conversation.) But I can't say that our Spaniophone population gives English speaking people the same courtesy. Mexicans/ Cubans are more guilty of revanchism/ irredentism than anyone else that I've ever seen.

Since they live in their own little world in the States, if they are likely to get shot at, isn't it by one of their own kind? And in that case, couldn't they have the same experience wherever they came from? How is it different if it happens in the United States?

Rubber Nursey

03-08-10, 12:55

But I've seen news reports of Indians protesting about racism there against them.
Australia is a country...Melbourne is a city. Indian students protested against violence in MELBOURNE. It doesn't make the whole country racist.

Clandestine782

03-08-10, 13:14

Australia is a country...Melbourne is a city. Indian students protested against violence in MELBOURNE. It doesn't make the whole country racist.
That and the fact that some students somewhere are protesting about something at ALL times (=always and everywhere). There in the United States, the head of state is a black man. And yet black students at Berkley were protesting about some people somewhere who had a "Ghetto Party" at some place to which these black people weren't invited and with which they didn't need to concern themselves. One little punk assed party led to protests and sit-ins all over the place. WTF? So, no, just because some students somewhere are protesting doesn't mean that there is necessarily an issue.

Australiasucks

03-08-10, 14:53

If I asked an Australian aborigine I think he'd say something quite different. Its easy to speak about everything being so tolerant when you're from the ruling majority. But I've seen news reports of Indians protesting about racism there against them. So it appears what you mean to say is Australia is tolerant if you have WHITE skin. Just because your racist don't have a group name doesn't mean racism doesn't exist. Its just so wide spread it doesn't warrant needing a group.

Give me a break about the attacks on Indians. The loony bullshit Indian media exaggerated the whole thing, claiming there were 1500 attacks on Indians in 2009, there were really only 100, and they were pretty much muggings and robberies. In Australia there is crime, and a lot of these students had the stupidity to work during odd hours or in some dodgy parts of town and ran into the local rif raff. There is even a video of an Indian being beaten up on youtube and several of the assailants were Asian and one even looked Indian, they took his ipod, and 650 dollars in cash. The moron Indian media blew the whole thing out of proportion it was a robbery and it could not have been racial since several of the attackers were clearly not white one looked Asian the other had a dark complexion. What moron runs around during night time with over 600 bucks in cash?? You don't think crimes like this happen in America?? They do but the media doesn't care because its too common.

In America there are shitloads of racial violence, and the KKK and NeoNazis have considerable membership. Neo Nazis even marched through Phoenix Arizona a while back. Indians also get attacked in America and sometimes because people think they are Arab. Many times Indians work in cash businesses and wind up the target of crime. If you think America is a racial paradise, look up Joe Arpaio, the minutemen, and Henry Louis Gates, also Jena 6. Australia in comparison is a lot more peaceful.

Some of the worst racism and violence in both Australia and the US does not even involve whites and minorities but minorities against other minorities. Look at hispanics and blacks in most US cities. One of my friends in the US is a teacher in a big US city and says her school suffers from a lot of racial violence and its particularly bad between the hispanic and the black population. She also says other groups get picked on as well such as Asians and Arabs. What has happened in Melbourne is very similar to what occurs in inner city America, inter ethnic violence and tension.

Most of these Indians were being robbed in addition to being bashed and from the names of the arrested, it looks like other ethnic groups were picking on them. One of the biggest cases involved a group of Somalis bashing an Indian, another involved Lebanese Muslims. Its mostly ethnic gangs who see Indians as an easy target and its more the case since almost all these crimes occurred during odd hours.

I actually work out with an African American at a gym in Sydney, he loves it here and even with Obama as President is not convinced that America is changing for the better in any way. Also he happens to be a Muslim and makes it known to everyone he meets including myself, he was hiding that in the US. He also has plenty of girlfriends and is enjoying life down under. He doesn't hide the fact that he is a Muslim in Australia but he admitted that he hid his beliefs in post 9-11 America.

Indians sure are welcome in the good ole US of A:
http://pluralism.org/news/view/13991
The above occurred in the most "liberal" metro of America.

Spanish speaking people in America not racist?? Fuck no!!! Look at Cubans in Miami, absolutely the most racist arrogant people on Earth. Even saw a Cuban hit a homeless black man with a broom. And that kind of racism was touched on a bit in Bad Boys films.

Latin America a racial paradise? Are you fucking kidding me!!! The favelas of Brazil are in my dreams only??? And all the lighter complexioned Brazilians in their nice apartment towers and BMWs are also fake??!! Even the social order in Latin America is based on skin color.

In my own arrogant opinion
Australia >>>>> US and A

Capt Ajax

03-08-10, 15:41

Here's a simple yes or no question and I hope you'll answer truthfully. Do you think an Aborigine can ever become Prime Minister of Australia?

Give me a break about the attacks on Indians. The loony bullshit Indian media exaggerated the whole thing, claiming there were 1500 attacks on Indians in 2009, there were really only 100, and they were pretty much muggings and robberies. In Australia there is crime, and a lot of these students had the stupidity to work during odd hours or in some dodgy parts of town and ran into the local rif raff. There is even a video of an Indian being beaten up on youtube and several of the assailants were Asian and one even looked Indian, they took his ipod, and 650 dollars in cash. The moron Indian media blew the whole thing out of proportion it was a robbery and it could not have been racial since several of the attackers were clearly not white one looked Asian the other had a dark complexion. What moron runs around during night time with over 600 bucks in cash?? You don't think crimes like this happen in America?? They do but the media doesn't care because its too common.

In America there are shitloads of racial violence, and the KKK and NeoNazis have considerable membership. Neo Nazis even marched through Phoenix Arizona a while back. Indians also get attacked in America and sometimes because people think they are Arab. Many times Indians work in cash businesses and wind up the target of crime. If you think America is a racial paradise, look up Joe Arpaio, the minutemen, and Henry Louis Gates, also Jena 6. Australia in comparison is a lot more peaceful.

Some of the worst racism and violence in both Australia and the US does not even involve whites and minorities but minorities against other minorities. Look at hispanics and blacks in most US cities. One of my friends in the US is a teacher in a big US city and says her school suffers from a lot of racial violence and its particularly bad between the hispanic and the black population. She also says other groups get picked on as well such as Asians and Arabs. What has happened in Melbourne is very similar to what occurs in inner city America, inter ethnic violence and tension.

Most of these Indians were being robbed in addition to being bashed and from the names of the arrested, it looks like other ethnic groups were picking on them. One of the biggest cases involved a group of Somalis bashing an Indian, another involved Lebanese Muslims. Its mostly ethnic gangs who see Indians as an easy target and its more the case since almost all these crimes occurred during odd hours.

I actually work out with an African American at a gym in Sydney, he loves it here and even with Obama as President is not convinced that America is changing for the better in any way. Also he happens to be a Muslim and makes it known to everyone he meets including myself, he was hiding that in the US. He also has plenty of girlfriends and is enjoying life down under. He doesn't hide the fact that he is a Muslim in Australia but he admitted that he hid his beliefs in post 9-11 America.

Indians sure are welcome in the good ole US of A:
http://pluralism.org/news/view/13991
The above occurred in the most "liberal" metro of America.

Spanish speaking people in America not racist?? Fuck no!!! Look at Cubans in Miami, absolutely the most racist arrogant people on Earth. Even saw a Cuban hit a homeless black man with a broom. And that kind of racism was touched on a bit in Bad Boys films.

Latin America a racial paradise? Are you fucking kidding me!!! The favelas of Brazil are in my dreams only??? And all the lighter complexioned Brazilians in their nice apartment towers and BMWs are also fake??!! Even the social order in Latin America is based on skin color.

In my own arrogant opinion
Australia >>>>> US and A

Bango Cheito

03-08-10, 15:46

You totally didn't read my post!

What I said was they would PREFER to dodge bullets IN THEIR COUNTRY where the crime is HIGHER than in the US, but there are other benefits that more than make up for it!!!! }

These days with the US Economy in the shitter I will bet you there are more immigrants LEAVING than staying. One thing you will hear over and over in NY and other cities in the US in Spanish, Igbo, Hindi, Fujian, Russian, Arab etc. "My friend, this country is ONLY GOOD FOR MONEY!!!"

This sounds like something I have heard before. I get this line from Chinese people all the time (before they know that I can understand Chinese). It is usually something like (in reference to something that has been reported on the news or some topic that comes up in office discussion): "Oh, that person does not speak Chinese, so he cannot possibly understand." And if you do understand Chinese, then there will be complaints that you don't understand it well enough for the argument at hand. (Nevermind that when I am on different conversation jobs, I listen to the argument that is being made and not the grammar.) Long story short: Nice try, but I have already heard that argument and it didn't work then.

If they go back to where they come from, that is fine with me. I live here in China and I take the same buses as Chinese people and eat the same food and speak to them in their language. (I NEVER begin any conversation anywhere in English. If someone speaks to me in English, then I answer them in Chinese and we each speak our second language for the duration of the conversation.) But I can't say that our Spaniophone population gives English speaking people the same courtesy. Mexicans/ Cubans are more guilty of revanchism/ irredentism than anyone else that I've ever seen.

Since they live in their own little world in the States, if they are likely to get shot at, isn't it by one of their own kind? And in that case, couldn't they have the same experience wherever they came from? How is it different if it happens in the United States?

Australiasucks

03-08-10, 15:52

Here's a simple yes or no question and I hope you'll answer truthfully. Do you think an Aborigine can ever become Prime Minister of Australia?

Aborginals do not want much to do with modern Australia. I think its possible that an Aborigine could become PM but I really think its the East Asians that are gaining the power and influence in Australia. Their way of life is very different from most people. I going to bet big money that Australia will become a colony of China in another 20 years, our economy depends upon Asia. Without trade with China, Japan, Korea, India, and other growing regions, Australia will starve. There was a big thing on the news last year about a CIA report that said that the US will lose a substantial amount of its influence in Asia Pacific, that is why Australia right now is aggressively trying to portray itself as part of Asia. The APEC meetings in Sydney have a habit of snarling up traffic.

When you look at Obama, degrees from 2 Ivy League universities, went to a very elite private school in Hawaii. Raised by a white mother and grandparents, do you really think he has much in common with most African Americans? Its also a well known fact that Obama was mostly dating white women before he met his wife. My mate in Sydney who is African American even thought this about Obama, he thought Obama was largely some kind of front for the NWO after 8 years of Bush.

Rubber Nursey

03-08-10, 16:29

Here's a simple yes or no question and I hope you'll answer truthfully. Do you think an Aborigine can ever become Prime Minister of Australia?
No. And I don't think a woman will ever become Prime Minister, either.

But I think that has more to do with our political system and voter demographics than racism or sexism. It's compulsory to vote in Australia and a huge percentage of our voting population is over 50. They vote for (what they perceive to be) stability ...male, white, educated, older.

Australiasucks

03-08-10, 19:53

You forgot to mention Australian democracy is largely a joke, not as bad as American democracy though, with the current demographic changes. An aging European population and a young, fertile, and rapidly growing Asian population, Australia will be de facto Asian, it is simply a question of when. Ever been to the Sydney CBD lately? Kevin Rudd is a big time Chinese bootlicker, hence the "Mandarin" in his name.

The mainstream Aussie media loves Obama and Rudd as well. Rudd as referred to as Australia's global PM. I think globalism is a joke and way to bring the first world on the same level as the third world by destroying the middle class in the West. However in the wake of the continuing malfeasance on Wall Street, many in America are realizing Obama is nothing more than a puppet.

I will be amazed if Australia remains a democracy for much longer. Also have doubts on its survival in the US and Europe.

NYC Expat is certainly right that a Nazi movement exists in Europe, if the current global economy deteriorates more extremists will be popular. Australia will have a different fate, that of serving larger Asian nations. Australia is a minnow in a sea of giants.

A woman PM is not out of the question. Julia Gillard has potential.

As far as Nazis are concerned, I have been hearing about Karl Theodor Zu Guttenberg who is becoming extremely popular in Germany, and a few people I know think he might the next person to watch in European politics. Some Christians even think he fits the profile of the anti-Christ, he bases himself on charisma, something not seen in German politics since you know who.
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/PICTURES/news/2009/12/2009-12-04-minister-guttenberg-kunduz-air-strike-bomb/guttenberg-14218215-mfbq,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,height=349.jpg

Goga Fung

03-08-10, 20:59

****Quote:Originally Posted by Goga Fung
How do you know what everybody thinks? People come to america mostly because of the belief and Hollywood propaganda they can earn money and the power of the dollar. If dollar collapses (I hope not) nobody will give a shit about America. Also since so many "shitty" jobs available, many losers come to america since they can't make it at home. Also ugly girls who can't compete at home feel in america much better.
*****

Man the best of the best around the world come to america. Because until you've made it in America. You really haven't made it. Period. Gong Fung sounds like you're Chinese, look at Gong Li. Even with a billion Chinese. She wanted to make it in Hollywood. Same as Jackie Chan. Europe's best where do they go to make it. Aussie's Mel Gibson. Crocdille dundee dude. Singers. Because Its the shit, so if they are coming. All the beautiful woman who Think they are going to make it come too. YOUR beauties come to LA and NY thinking they going to make it. And who do you think gets that potane. Thats right AM like me.What have not made I in America? If its about money, then I made way more than average American. But I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about the majority including millions of immigrants who have shitty jobs, live in shithole ghettos and/or who receive welfare. Many of them love America because they get free stuff here which is not available for them at home.

You mentioned some celebrtities, but it's only few people who can make it.
Do you know that in other countries people also make money. For example Roman Abramovich, etc.. They made it(billions $) in Russia. Does it mean now you want to move to Russia?

>>Gong Fung sounds like you're Chinese

Wow, that's interesting, never been to china, don't have any relatives from there, and don't know a word in chinese:)

Nyc Expat

03-09-10, 00:17

i going to bet big money that australia will become a colony of china in another 20 years,

20 years ago there were just a few thousand 3rd world immigrants in eec. now there are millions thanks to eec politicians and the red cross allowing the open door policy for almost any 3rd world person to enter and obtain permanent residency. most of euro land has become a suburb of addis ababa, beirut, istanbul, islamabad, baghdad etc. unfortunately many were and still are committing crimes, killings f.ex. their own daughters for family honor, their own son in-laws (first castration, then beheading), circumcising their daughters, salman rushdie life threatened, killing of a dutch film maker (family of van gogh) knived to death on the street by a muslim riding a moped. he exposed the insanities against muslim women. boys gang [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) teenage girls and more.

i told my danish friends denmark will cease to exist in 30-50 yrs. with a re-naming to denmarkistan. it is their ultimate goal to overtake the european continent. they have already infiltrated much of society. many are law bidding citizens but many are tribal low class, uneducated, not interested to learn a second language. they meet to listen to anti-western life style, militant clerics provoking violence. not all, but a high percentage do.

some of you living in the u.s.a. do not notice them in your daily life because they try to blend in with clothing, especially men in some areas. if you travel to any european city, you will notice them within a few minutes in the airport’s terminal. some euro neighborhoods have been completely overtaken; you’ll think you were in the middle east. i'm sure that's also true in n.y. and elsewhere.

this is off topic of am, but some recent statements by members require correction from my experiences in europe, colombia, brazil and morocco.

btw, pakistani-danish girls are hot in their one colored robes down to their ankles wearing open toe stilleto heels. can you believe their religion. fully covered but footwear can be as sexy as desired. caution approaching these girls as her brothers, uncles, father and all male family members can provide you with a one way ticket to a destination you never requested.

DJ FourMoney

03-09-10, 02:00

DJ sounds unhappy in America from his post but does not realize only North of the border he has a different world that would await him. Canada is like America minus the bullshit.

Of course I know about Canada, I've been to Canada, have I mention strip clubs in Canada? :)

I'm looking at ALL my options and I would tend to agree with you.

Vancouver would be my top choice, and Canada is not Utopia either, they tend to treat the "have nots" a bit better but there are some housing issues in Vancouver - http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/15/vancouver_community_activist_am_johal_condemns

Its all jumbled now, I'll know more March 11th and I'll know even more before the summertime about which direction I end up going.

DJ FourMoney

03-09-10, 02:20

Have to agree with NYC here. I also have lived in both places (america/europe). Lived in the carribean also where some islands are almost all black.

Just check out the news of what's going on in Switzerland with the Muslims. Look at the neo-nazi's in Germany & Austria. Africans in Spain and Italy are the bottom of the bottom. The spanish are racist towards the immigrants from south america. People I know in Portugal think everyone from Brazil is a puta. There's a hell of a lot more integration in USA then here.

Living somewhere and visiting or reading about it are two totally different things. You mention just about every country in the world, yeah there's racism everywhere.

I can go on a vacation in Cuba for a week, stay in a 5star hotel on a beautiful beach with great food. Never seeing the rest of the island and know that people can only use water at certain times the government allows them or see people leaving in extreme poverty. Then I can go back home and say "Wow, Cuba was great! Seemed like a great country to me!"

Yep especially about the Neo-Nazi's in Germany and Austria, however Germany (not sure about Austria) has basically a zero tolerance policy about Neo-Nazi's and come down on them like a ton of bricks.

The Swiss are basically having the same discussion The Netherlands are about Burkas and such. This non-sense about the food and Muslim women only Gyms is a bit over the top, but hey if they wanna allow it....

There are certain levels of racism in very country. But as my boy Sam Smith says "Black Men Catch Hell In The United States" and if you look at any social or economic data he's right and to add insult to injury Black Women like to blame us for everything that's wrong in the Black Community.

As KRS-One once said "So In The Fuck Am I Suppose To Do?"

ThatGuy865

03-09-10, 03:41

When you look at Obama, degrees from 2 Ivy League universities, went to a very elite private school in Hawaii. Raised by a white mother and grandparents, do you really think he has much in common with most African Americans? Its also a well known fact that Obama was mostly dating white women before he met his wife. My mate in Sydney who is African American even thought this about Obama, he thought Obama was largely some kind of front for the NWO after 8 years of Bush.So what you're saying is that there are no educated African Americans in america. If he was dating white women its because thats whats most available in a white Ivory league school. He certainly hung around Blacks when he left those Ivory league schools and went to Chicago. So HE must have felt like he belonged with that community. He could have easily go jobs at Elite law firms. No he worked as a civil rights lawyer. Helping BLACK people. Also as a community organizer helping BLACK people. You and your friend are over in Australia. And only saw what the news wanted you to C. But the African American community of America knew of Obama and his work in Chicago. A black man dating white women doesn't mean he can't be an Advocate for Black people. There are quite a few you fall into that category some who have even married White women but still champion Black causes. Julian Bond. Head of the NAACP was married to a white woman.

ThatGuy865

03-09-10, 03:49

Jon32

03-09-10, 05:15

20 years ago there were just a few thousand 3rd world immigrants in eec. now there are millions thanks to eec politicians and the red cross allowing the open door policy for almost any 3rd world person to enter and obtain permanent residency. most of euro land has become a suburb of addis ababa, beirut, istanbul, islamabad, baghdad etc. unfortunately many were and still are committing crimes, killings f.ex. their own daughters for family honor, their own son in-laws (first castration, then beheading), circumcising their daughters, salman rushdie life threatened, killing of a dutch film maker (family of van gogh) knived to death on the street by a muslim riding a moped. he exposed the insanities against muslim women. boys gang [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) teenage girls and more.

i told my danish friends denmark will cease to exist in 30-50 yrs. with a re-naming to denmarkistan. it is their ultimate goal to overtake the european continent. they have already infiltrated much of society. many are law bidding citizens but many are tribal low class, uneducated, not interested to learn a second language. they meet to listen to anti-western life style, militant clerics provoking violence. not all, but a high percentage do.

some of you living in the u.s.a. do not notice them in your daily life because they try to blend in with clothing, especially men in some areas. if you travel to any european city, you will notice them within a few minutes in the airport’s terminal. some euro neighborhoods have been completely overtaken; you’ll think you were in the middle east. i'm sure that's also true in n.y. and elsewhere.

this is off topic of am, but some recent statements by members require correction from my experiences in europe, colombia, brazil and morocco.

btw, pakistani-danish girls are hot in their one colored robes down to their ankles wearing open toe stilleto heels. can you believe their religion. fully covered but footwear can be as sexy as desired. caution approaching these girls as her brothers, uncles, father and all male family members can provide you with a one way ticket to a destination you never requested.

damn that's fucking nuts. will be crazy to see what happens when we're outnumbered.

Viva Chicas

03-09-10, 05:15

What does racism in, (fill in the country of choice), have to do with American women. We have gotten off the topic.

Rubber Nursey

03-09-10, 05:58

What does racism in, (fill in the country of choice), have to do with American women. We have gotten off the topic.
Because there's only a limited number of times you can moan about fat arses and money-grubbing before it becomes as boring as batshit? And because at least a third of these posters are not American, another third are ex-pats and a significant number are not white. Knowledge of immigration policy and local racism is important to people wanting to travel/move to other countries to FIND WOMEN.

Yogin

03-09-10, 08:36

Mike12

03-09-10, 09:21

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/busted_for_soliciting_cop_AJCQ4nnIyxooWT6e0r47DI

You know NYC is is a sexual Siberia when top R&B singer D'Angelo has to pay for sex on a Saturday night and gets caught in a police sting.

Rubber Nursey

03-09-10, 09:35

The nationality, location, and race of posters is irrelevant. The heading of this thread is curiously called "American Women". If you're so bored with what you deem to be repetitive postings, then I suggest you find another thread rather than hijack this one with off-topic politics, descriptions of the culture and way of life of various European countries, immigration policies in South America, Brazilians of Japanese ancestry, which women make the best LTR/STR etc. There are in fact threads for these things. Use them in good health.
I didn't hijack the thread...I just gave two (very brief) answers to questions about Australia. And I didn't say that I was bored reading repetitive posts. I said that people might be bored with writing them. Why be so protective of the "b*tch about American women" thread, when conversation is flowing and posters are obviously getting something out of the current discussion?

Bango Cheito

03-09-10, 11:44

Goga Fung

03-09-10, 16:26

There are MILLIONS that voluntarily leave dude. MILLIONS. Immigration is very cyclical. A very big portion of my friends here in Bogota have spent significant time in the US or other countries and came back VOLUNTARILY.

I also know a lot of latinos who want to go back to their countries but they are trapped by debt and other reasons and are MISERABLE. I could honestly say that out of thousands I know in NYC I could count on my hand the ones who wouldn't go back given half a chance.

My personal opinion, if they are telling you that they prefer the US it's probably because they don't want to offend you.I just thought about three Latin friends I have and all of them are crying to go back to their countries(Colombia, Equador, PuertoRico). But all of them are stuck in USA with wives, kids, child support and mortgages.

They cant even go there on vacations anymore, since they would have to take their wives and kids, so they cant afford it economically and their American wives would not let them even look at other women.

One Latin friend used to have an American GF. One day he was going to his home country for one month. when he entered the plane he saw there his GF. He was really pissed, his vacation was screwed.

On the other hand my impression is that many Latin girls do not miss their home countries as much as men do. Although in Colombia I still have met a number of women who had lived in USA for several years and they went back to Colombia where they feel happier than in USA.

Clandestine782

03-09-10, 18:32

There are MILLIONS that voluntarily leave dude. MILLIONS. Immigration is very cyclical. A very big portion of my friends here in Bogota have spent significant time in the US or other countries and came back VOLUNTARILY.

I also know a lot of latinos who want to go back to their countries but they are trapped by debt and other reasons and are MISERABLE. I could honestly say that out of thousands I know in NYC I could count on my hand the ones who wouldn't go back given half a chance.

My personal opinion, if they are telling you that they prefer the US it's probably because they don't want to offend you.Sigh...... Can you convince as many as you know to leave and not come back? If they plan to leave the USA and are trapped by debt, to whom do they owe the money? If it's someone in the United States, then they could just leave and duck out on the debt. Or do these examples even exist anywhere except in your head?

If you want to get a bit more technical: Everyone knows that some people come in and some people go out but the point is that the NET difference is positive. (The same idea is behind the reasoning that if the population in some country is growing then the number of people that are being born are exceeding the number that are dying such that the population is increasing at the rate.) So if South Americans are trying to extend their country into the United States, then they are leaving in smaller numbers than are entering such that the net balance is positive. So, just because you can come up with a few examples of people that say that that they want to go, that is not enough to explain the excess of people that *still are* in the country.

Look up the word (that I have used on here many times): "Availability Bias."

I know that a lot of university students (past and present) are always looking at something about which to be inflamed (to feed their sense of crisis). But there may not be an issue at all here.

Australiasucks

03-09-10, 20:11

Quite a few Americans in Australia who are in Oz because of very big debts left behind in America. Australian banks only consider local credit history not something overseas. I knew someone who wound up destitute after 9-11 and ran off to Australia.

To many Aussies America is a shithole.

DJ if you are so unhappy in the US and hate your life there, go somewhere else. Canada is a great place to start. Much better than the US of KKKA.

Capt Ajax

03-10-10, 00:37

Wall Street banks, are busy alienating the world against America's interests through their unethical and shockingly predatory business practices. American expats are going to be in a world of hurt, when people around the world realize how U.S financial institutions have created and sold weapons of Financial destruction, derivatives, to pension, hedge, mutual, funds all over the world.

Quite a few Americans in Australia who are in Oz because of very big debts left behind in America. Australian banks only consider local credit history not something overseas. I knew someone who wound up destitute after 9-11 and ran off to Australia.

To many Aussies America is a shithole.

DJ if you are so unhappy in the US and hate your life there, go somewhere else. Canada is a great place to start. Much better than the US of KKKA.

Westy

03-10-10, 00:56

The heading of this thread is curiously called "American Women". If you're so bored with what you deem to be repetitive postings, then I suggest you find another thread rather than hijack this one with off-topic politics, descriptions of the culture and way of life of various European countries, immigration policies in South America, Brazilians of Japanese ancestry, which women make the best LTR/STR etc.There is, however, a valid reason for this "forum creep". It's a serious threat to our particular pastime, here on ISG. It's the "feminazification" of women outside the USA, which could be compared to the spread of an infection.

The Americanization of realpolitik, in different countries, seems to be responsible for the spread of this "***** flu." Any monger with an eye toward the future should be aware of this, as it's a clear and present danger to our enjoyment of Life, Liberties, and the Pursuit of Poontang.

I am, or at least I have been, proud of the USA, land of my birth. However, the social values currently enforced in my homeland are more and more like a strangle-knot around my manly hydraulics. Doesn't take much reading of this thread to see that I'm not alone in this assessment.

The worrisome question for us, then, is "How do we get free of this scourge?" It should be followed by, "Where can we go to be sure it won't spread and swallow us up again?" I think that tracking this epidemic of ***** Flu is germane to our discussion of the AW Menace.

Australiasucks

03-10-10, 03:46

We already realize what a banana republic America turned out to be, nearly a year into the Obama administration things are the same. A few years ago many young Aussies wanted to go to America now they are staying home.

I totally think Bango is full of it when he says Hispanics hate the US, the population numbers say something totally different. I have been to the US many times and California in particular.

In Australia we have large scale Asian immigration, but most people do not have a problem with it since the Aussie economy is propelled by Asian growth. We do have problems like anywhere else but I think we do pretty well by global standards.

Bango Cheito

03-10-10, 04:43

Australiasucks

03-10-10, 05:49

DJ FourMoney

03-10-10, 09:43

Sigh...... Can you convince as many as you know to leave and not come back? If they plan to leave the USA and are trapped by debt, to whom do they owe the money? If it's someone in the United States, then they could just leave and duck out on the debt. Or do these examples even exist anywhere except in your head?

If you want to get a bit more technical: Everyone knows that some people come in and some people go out but the point is that the NET difference is positive. (The same idea is behind the reasoning that if the population in some country is growing then the number of people that are being born are exceeding the number that are dying such that the population is increasing at the rate.) So if South Americans are trying to extend their country into the United States, then they are leaving in smaller numbers than are entering such that the net balance is positive. So, just because you can come up with a few examples of people that say that that they want to go, that is not enough to explain the excess of people that *still are* in the country.

Look up the word (that I have used on here many times): "Availability Bias."

I know that a lot of university students (past and present) are always looking at something about which to be inflamed (to feed their sense of crisis). But there may not be an issue at all here.

He's right all you have to look at the Diversity Program, it just let in another 50,000* in the Green Card Lottery for 2010 and this happens every year since the mid 80's and NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THAT, when the political shinny object is Brown people coming across the boarder. While overall Mexican and Central Americans entering the US is down, its not down to a trickle and all the boarder agents and "Minutemen" have gone home, quite the contrary.

DJ FourMoney

03-10-10, 10:21

quite a few americans in australia who are in oz because of very big debts left behind in america. australian banks only consider local credit history not something overseas. i knew someone who wound up destitute after 9-11 and ran off to australia.

to many aussies america is a shithole.

dj if you are so unhappy in the us and hate your life there, go somewhere else. canada is a great place to start. much better than the us of kkka.

i don't "hate" my life, its what you make of it. i love california we're about to take a major sociological step forward and fast-track our modernizing of the infrastructure. i hope i can become involved in the infrastructure rebuilding and setup my life until at least 80-90 years old.

but since it takes a long time to get federal or even state funds approved for a project even if its been green-lighted by the population. i got roughly another year before ground is broken on high speed rail and everything that goes with it and least another year away from a massive push in renewable energy because we're not having an argument about climate change here.

in that gap i want to solidify my personal life, this is the time to do it, i don't wanna do it when i'm working 8-10 hours a day 5-6 days a week. i am tired of going sexless/relationship-less, mexico is fine but its only a stop-gap for sexual fulfillment, the language barrier i don't believe will allow for much more than that.

we'll see what happens in the next 10-15 months, i'm sure you'll know about it.

DJ FourMoney

03-10-10, 10:37

well duh, the us economy has not done well over the last decade and this new one is off to a bad start. so what do you expect? a lot of aussies cannot fathom that the us has went to shit, mostly the global media is trying to keep the illusion of prosperity going.

did you say new economy?

which new one are talking about? they just put humpy dumpy back together again that's all. congress, the treasury and federal reserve are all run by wall st.

obama may come out with populace rhetoric from time to time but many economist say we're in-line for a double dip and unemployment even with an aggressive push by government will result in at least 8-9% official rate (16-18% unofficial but more realistic) until 2015. they also say it won' t be down to normal levels until 2020 (3-4%)

you might speed that up with some aggressive policy that puts money in the hands of the people because consumption is 70% of the economy and that's down 20-30%.

its an enormous catch 22....

if you have banks that don't wanna give out easy loans anymore and a good 2/3 of the population doesn't wanna see that point in history return again, you're going to have to find some way to either lower cost elsewhere and raise wages so people can afford to shop. you're going to have to reduce the cost of an upper education and regulate interest rates on credit cards, car loans and short term loans (payday).

some of this is largely unpopular with neo-conservatives but if your a eisenhower republican you won't have a problem with much of what i just said.

as some have said it would have been much better to give the people $800 billion dollars and do 2 trillion in infrastructure projects than to give the banks the money so the top 2% won't have to take a hair cut.

DJ FourMoney

03-10-10, 11:09

I think the NET difference was positive for decades right up till about 10 years ago... these days there are more leaving than coming in... definitely in the 1980s it seemed like half of Latin America wound up in NYC... those were not in general the best years for Latin America.... Brazil and Agentina had economic meltdowns... Colombia saw an incredible surge in violence, the Caribbean economy tanked in the mid 80s as well... conditions these days are VERY different...

All you have to do is learn real fluent Spanish and gain the trust of people to hear the REAL story about what they think... and it's not just Latinos.... it's people from all over...

Colombia where I now life and love it, is a REAL hard place to move away from, people have NO IDEA when they leave here how much they will be missing, but they find out real fast....

Nope more people coming in than leaving. Some 3 Million Americans live outside the United States, we let in 50,000 a year with the Green Card Lottery and who knows how many more in through normal channels.

We are also having 6 million babies a year. So you couldn't have enough people "leaving" to have any sort of "dent" you would like to believe is happening.

BC you love your life down in Colombia but your either Latino or White. The way the world is setup you're at an advantage it really doesn't matter where you are.

Those with darker skin are less than. Only in India and Africa is that largely not the case. The poorest people in Colombia are those of African and West Indian decent. Same with Brazil, other countries have indigenous populations that are darker and poor.

Like I said before racism among Latin Americans is not talked about but plainly obvious to those paying attention.

Clandestine782

03-10-10, 11:21

I think the NET difference was positive for decades right up till about 10 years ago... these days there are more leaving than coming in... definitely in the 1980s it seemed like half of Latin America wound up in NYC... those were not in general the best years for Latin America.... Brazil and Agentina had economic meltdowns... Colombia saw an incredible surge in violence, the Caribbean economy tanked in the mid 80s as well... conditions these days are VERY different...

All you have to do is learn real fluent Spanish and gain the trust of people to hear the REAL story about what they think... and it's not just Latinos.... it's people from all over...

Colombia where I now life and love it, is a REAL hard place to move away from, people have NO IDEA when they leave here how much they will be missing, but they find out real fast....Ok, so you say that more are leaving than coming in (I would love to believe you, since the outflux of people who would turn the USA into another Canada/ Belgium/ India/ Africa is something that I would jump with joy to see), do you have any single piece of direct evidence? Any census statistics? Any academic publications? I get the distinct impression that you did not look up "availability bias."

1. How many people have you talked to that tell you this? If you have 5 experiences like this, then can I extrapolate that to 10 million people? 20 million?

2. I have had the experience many times where someone wants to believe something and they will RE-interpret *everything* that they hear to fit that preconceived idea. But I know more certain than I have known almost anything that you cannot trust the accuracy of people who claim to witness something.

3. I dealt with the "Mystical Language" myth several posts ago. I've heard it OVER AND OVER from Chinese people who say that reality takes on a whole different meaning if it is described in Chinese as opposed to any other language. And then when I answer them in Chinese, it becomes "Oh, there is some cultural misunderstanding between foreigners and Chinese" and the conversation is then closed.

Clandestine782

03-10-10, 11:26

Well duh, the US economy has not done well over the last decade and this new one is off to a bad start. So what do you expect? A lot of Aussies cannot fathom that the US has went to shit, mostly the global media is trying to keep the illusion of prosperity going.Ok, so now is 2010. Do you really mean to tell me that since 2000 the economy has been slower? And if so, by how much slower? (Keep in mind that the growth rate has been an average of 2.3% for the past 230 years. Slow and steady.) I mean, honestly: I don't know why you are making such a point to go ON AND ON spending so much time thinking about the United States. We don't return you the favor (=90% of Americans don't spend even 30 seconds per week thinking about Australia and could not tell you anything about Aborigines). So, why waste so much of your own time worried about people who don't do you the pleasure of doing the same?

Clandestine782

03-10-10, 11:51

did you say new economy?

which new one are talking about? they just put humpy dumpy back together again that's all. congress, the treasury and federal reserve are all run by wall st.

obama may come out with populace rhetoric from time to time but many economist say we're in-line for a double dip and unemployment even with an aggressive push by government will result in at least 8-9% official rate (16-18% unofficial but more realistic) until 2015. they also say it won' t be down to normal levels until 2020 (3-4%)

you might speed that up with some aggressive policy that puts money in the hands of the people because consumption is 70% of the economy and that's down 20-30%.

its an enormous catch 22....

if you have banks that don't wanna give out easy loans anymore and a good 2/3 of the population doesn't wanna see that point in history return again, you're going to have to find some way to either lower cost elsewhere and raise wages so people can afford to shop. you're going to have to reduce the cost of an upper education and regulate interest rates on credit cards, car loans and short term loans (payday).

some of this is largely unpopular with neo-conservatives but if your a eisenhower republican you won't have a problem with much of what i just said.

as some have said it would have been much better to give the people $800 billion dollars and do 2 trillion in infrastructure projects than to give the banks the money so the top 2% won't have to take a hair cut.
this really is a weird thing to say. how do you put more money in the hands of the same people out of whose hands you took it in the first place? if you and i are two relatives, and we have a nickel and we share it back and forth between us enough times, do you think we can stretch it out into a million dollars worth of services? the thing that left the federal government holding the bill was the federal deposit insurance. the government is trying to figure out more regulation to "fix" the banks, and if they just stop guaranteeing their deposits things would fix themselves. (and this is not speculation. look at the banking policy of any currency board country and you'll see that they just never let banks get big enough to be "too big to fail.")

and same thing again: if the population in the us is so *willfully stupid* and so determined to not read newspapers or books and be informed about their surroundings (but people who are on wall street are willing to figure out how things and work and use that to their advantage), then are people in the us getting their just desserts? (just finished a book a few months back about the willful stupidity of voters called "the myth of the rational voter.")

obama is a lying asshole. i have posted a nice article in the american politics section of some journalist who bothered to count the lies that he gave in various speeches and preemptively rebut some of them before they came out.

as far as the reading: minimum wages are the same logical thing as price controls. price controls haven't worked for the last 4,000 years. i don't think they are going to become feasible in this election cycle. all of these misconceptions are easily checked against reality in some popular economics text, but most voters can't even bother to do *that* much. yes, you can put money in the "hands of the people" (of course taken out of the hands of other people, but i digress), but you can't make them spend it. in technical terms, i believe this is called "not being able to influence the velocity of money" and you can also know that such liquidity traps are very difficult to fix. (i am just reading a biography of milton friedman that i should have finished by the end of this week. he studied and characterized said traps *par excellence*.)

Monger#77

03-10-10, 14:24

Updated 3/10/10 0800, by Tyger Armstrong

America is being systematically dismantled, and people dont want to acknowledge it. I will list here some things that have happened by design but that people still believe just happen to be coincidence:
1. Signing of free trade agreements (i.e. NAFTA) that send US jobs offshore, resulting in the loss of millions upon millions of manufacturing jobs. This has killed the entire US midwest, a part of the economy whose economy has been dead long before any crash.
2. NY Bankers manipulating the cost of oil and the crash of the USD with the use of derivatives that no one can understand, for literally trillions.
3. Fed paying those same NY bankers who swindled the US economy
4. Republican and Democratic plans to legalize over 10 million illegal immigrants.
5. Expiration of Bush tax cuts, planned rise in Capital gains tax, Cadillac Healthcare Tax, and many other taxes
6. Every single state's economy ruined, except possibly Texas, due to excessive state taxation and state regulations running productive businesses to Texas (we hope) or to Mexico
7. Socialist Health care plan that really has nothing to do with helping the uninsured but more with expanding the power of the political class
8. Prospective Cap and Trade Treaties that will tax citizens for each unit of carbon they emit (Bullshit!)
9. Educational system that teaches Marxism (one of the principles that Men went to Vietnam*, et al to fight against is being pumped into the minds of young children. Why arent the vets standing up to THIS INJUSTICE?)
10. Selling our National Debt to China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, et al
11. US Refusal to drill for oil off the coast of California and deeper in Alaska which would save us from having to buy oil from nations whose citizen's dont like us too much.
12. Committing self-genocide with feminism, divorce atrocities, single parenthood, birth control and abortion, resulting on the need to import people from the third world in order to maintain population numbers.

13.I forgot to add one important thing to the list: the highest per capita imprisonment rate in the entire world, even compared to Iran, China, Japan, Russia, North Korea.

14. The turning of inner cities into de facto reservations for the permanently unemployed/welfare class, dominated by gangs and effectively abandoned by the government.

15. Refusal of US to use Nuclear Power plants in greater numbers (like France which gets most of its power from Nuclear plants, or like China which is currently building more plants, with virtually no risk of fallout or radiation).

Bango Cheito

03-10-10, 14:50

Australiasucks

03-10-10, 14:53

Wow Bango your racist true colors have come out, I am not surprised. And most of the Latin Americans I meet in Australia are some of the most racist people I have ever encountered, especially the Argentinians and Brazilians. Mexicans are pretty bad, I actually saw an interaction between an Aborginal and Mexican fella, very bad. I am Aussie and we have racism in my country but its nowhere near as bad as the rest of the world.

DJ if you are African American you will love Australia, the girls here like black guys, not as in just going out with them for a night, but getting married, its another option if you are looking to flee America. And honestly you might just love it in Oz, great weather, laid back lifestyle. I actually work out with an African American fella from Detroit, said he would never go back.

The most racist place I visited in the US was Miami, bar one, that is one bigoted town. Makes Biloxi look nice.

Latin America should not surprise. Look at Spain and Portugal, some of the most racist places in Europe.

Australia = America - Bullshit + Great Weather and Outdoors

Clandestine782

03-10-10, 17:52

Unfortunately, every country on Earth keeps decently accurate immigration statistics, NO country bothers to keep decently accurate emigration statistics... I still have a NYC address I receive mail at, and go back to visit. In the eyes of statisticians I probably still live here.Ok, this is just to much to be for real. I you have looked everywhere (in between being a professional musician/ interviewer) and not been able to find any? Not for one single country? Wow.

My personal examples go way beyond 5 or 10 people. I'm a professional musician so I'm constantly meeting people, by the 1000s or even 10000s... Ok, so you are meeting people by the tens of thousand. If you were 40 years old, you would have lived 14,600 days. So, if you have met people by the tens of thousand (assuming that you could talk from birth), then you would have to meet 1.5 people per day to get up to 20,000. Then you would have had to talk to some huge number of people about their feelings on emigration. Sorry, but you really are stretching here.

I'm thoroughly convinced the number of people leaving is much much greater than people realize.People were also convinced that the Earth was flat. People in the Catholic church are *still* convinced that it is not a good idea for priests to marry and that the issue of paying off billions of dollars in settlement money was less expensive than dealing with a few divorces. People in China believed/ believe that the world is made of three concentric circles with China at the center and others at the periphery, moving toward barbarism.

There is no doubt it sucks to have dark skin, pretty much the world over. I'd be an idiot to say there is no racism here. People here have much the same stupid stereotypes of black people as they do anywhere else. That's a completely different issue though, and not one I can do much about... I can only influence people by the 1000s and 10000s at this point :PWell, blacks came to the New World as slaves. That didn't help. Then there is the morass of Africa. That doesn't make it much better. Since you are going to influence people by the 1000s and 10000s, why not start with something much smaller? Why not go and talk to the 535 idiots in the US Congress and give them some helpful suggestions?

Australiasucks

03-10-10, 18:12

The USA is fucked that is all that is left to be true.

Nyc Expat

03-10-10, 21:20

The most racist place I visited in the US was Miami, bar one, that is one bigoted town. Makes Biloxi look nice.

Latin America should not surprise. Look at Spain and Portugal, some of the most racist places in Europe.

Who is racist against whom in Miami? Are the white retirees racist against latinos? Are the S. Am. latinos racist against Cubans? Are Cubans racist against ???

Who are the Spaniards and Portuguese racist against? You did not mention other nationalities like The French, Scandinavians, Germans, Dutch, Austrians and the Swiss. They have many groups of individuals and movements specifically with good reason racist against one group with a strong desire to overtake Western Europe. I know for a fact Muslims are hated.

Please elaborate with detail what you know.

Artisttyp

03-10-10, 22:50

Who is racist against whom in Miami? Are the white retirees racist against latinos? Are the S. Am. latinos racist against Cubans? Are Cubans racist against ???

Who are the Spaniards and Portuguese racist against? You did not mention other nationalities like The French, Scandinavians, Germans, Dutch, Austrians and the Swiss. They have many groups of individuals and movements specifically with good reason racist against one group with a strong desire to overtake Western Europe. I know for a fact Muslims are hated.

Please elaborate with detail what you know.

- I have a puerto rican friend who grew up in miami. He said he was in constant battle with the cubans there. His face snarled when he said it.

I myself have experienced similar treatment while in miami. I don't think it's just cubans. Miami is another one of those american dream cities where in reality people are plastic and the all about "me" tradition carries on. You basically run with your own crowd.

New york was always different in this regard up until 10/15 years ago when LA type segregation started to raise it's head. Alot of this had to do with the higher cost of living.

- I am totally in a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on america mood. Why hasn't anyone mentioned the many unqualified people who assume important responsibilities but don't act in the proper manner ? You can give someone a job but you need to give them incentive to do it well. The little guy gets "big" things done for the BIG guy. America has erased that from it's memory. It's either eat or be killed.

IMHO the mexicans coming in to USA is a god send. Most are a pleasure to deal with and they are smarter than your average underpaid US worker. You can't survive in the 3 world if you are stupid. You could in america up until very recently.

I love my country and I am sad to see where it is today but I blame most of it on americans and nobody else. People's attitudes are getting worse not better.

Australiasucks

03-10-10, 23:25

Who is racist against whom in Miami? Are the white retirees racist against latinos? Are the S. Am. latinos racist against Cubans? Are Cubans racist against ???

Who are the Spaniards and Portuguese racist against? You did not mention other nationalities like The French, Scandinavians, Germans, Dutch, Austrians and the Swiss. They have many groups of individuals and movements specifically with good reason racist against one group with a strong desire to overtake Western Europe. I know for a fact Muslims are hated.

Please elaborate with detail what you know.

The Cubans are racist as all hell, even saw a homeless black man get chased out of a store by a Cuban with a broom. The Spaniards are racist against all foreigners, especially Arabs and Africans, but they have some extreme hatred for South American people.

Muslims are disliked in Europe? Who brought that out of the bag? Duh!!! Russia seems to have an interesting relationship with the Muslim world since its 20 percent Muslim itself.

Europeans hate Jews almost as much as they hate Muslims, the only difference is that Jews these days are not so visible in Europe. The Germans are trying to play nice with them but wiser people know European history and they have always been intolerant of outsiders. Pope Benedict has created a lot of controversy with his actions and words, he granted sainthood to the Pope during WW2 who was largely a Nazi sympathizer also forgave a holocaust denying bishop. But if you have been to Russia or some CIS countries, you will figure it out quickly. I actually pretended I was Jewish in St. Petersburg to see what kind of reaction I would get and I nearly got my ass kicked by some local skinheads, it clearly sucks to be a Jew in Russia or the former CIS countries.

Human beings in general hate each other, what is new about that? Look at what a mess the world is today. Australia has some tensions but it has a small population and a lot of land, so its more relaxed than the rest of the world.

Australia right now is being accused of hating Indians, but the reality is that many Indian students were the victims of other ethnic gangs. And Muslim Lebanese and Somalis have repeatedly harassed and attacked Indians.

To the bottom line..America has gone downhill, now ranked only 12 for quality of life, Australia is number 3.

I actually have Muslim friends, they are not all religious fanatics, they even saw something a few years ago about the Paris riots and were glad that Australia despite having some racism is nothing like Europe. We accept people a lot more than most countries. And people keep coming down under.

Nyc Expat

03-11-10, 00:09

During all my years living in Scandinavia and European travel, I never saw hatred against Jews except statements from militant muslims and the media mentioned occasional cemetary desecration in France and nazi groups in Austria. However, those neo nazis had more hatred against muslims than other ethnic groups. Demonstrations with racial overtones have been denied.

I've heard zero tolerance in Germany. From what I heard the Germans do not want a repeat performance of the 1930's.

Australiasucks

03-11-10, 02:24

I was talking about Russia. St. Petersburg is a Russian city and anti Jewish feeling in Russia has always been strong, they do not have the Western political correctness that exists in the US and EU. Russia and Western Europe are very different places. Try Russia, it does not surprise me why the Jewish population there went from nearly 1 million in the 1990s to about 200,000 today. I got out of Russia with the skin of my ass and I would never go back there.

Germany is very sensitive towards the Jewish issue...at least right now but underneath the surface you see a different attitude. Quite a bit of neo Nazi activity in Eastern Germany. Many German Jews get upset when there is any kind of anti Turkish feeling, there is one prominent Jewish lawyer in Germany who often runs to the defense of Turks in Germany. I have heard of similar things occur between Chechens and Russian Jews. In fact one of the big Russian oligarchs who is now in Britain was very critical of Putin's treatment of Chechens and was nearly killed by his goons. Skinheads are becoming more common in Germany and anti Jewish hate crime still exist although because there are not many Jews it does not happen as much. The economy in Germany is totally shit and extremists exist over there and the current government is probably going to be overthrown with a more extreme one, its only a matter of time. A repeat of 1930s.... its already beginning. The NPD has a sizable presence in the East of the country.

The Borat character was created in Britain and many people did not get that Borat was satire and the character inspired quite a bit of anti Jewish feeling. I know people in America were largely aghast when the film showed up four years ago but the skit was popular in Britain for years despite its controversial nature. I am of British origin and know that British are quite anti Jewish at times especially in recent years. The French are similar. And other parts of Eastern Europe have similar attitudes. Even a Ukrainian woman I met had some pretty racist feelings regarding Jews, and she happened to half herself.

European history has been pretty bad, and history keeps repeating itself. Europe is not exactly known for tolerance anyhow. Australia is much better, and recently Australia has been re-branding itself as Asian nation for obvious reasons. China and Asia fuels Australian prosperity not the US and Europe which are both rapidly turning to shit.

Scandinavia is ultra politically correct, they act like Americans, especially the Swedes. Try the former Eastern bloc nations and you will be in a very different world.

Europe's Jewish population is not as visible as North America or even Australia, the Muslims are much more visible and numerous, less than 1 million Jews in the entire EU vs 30 million Muslims, that is a big difference.

Oh and a US Marine and his friend got their asses kicked on the streets of Sydney:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/us-marines-plea-after-kings-cross-bashing-20090422-aery.html
One punch and one of them was in a coma for 9 days. I thought Americans were tough.

Goga Fung

03-11-10, 05:10

The Borat character was created in Britain and many people did not get that Borat was satire and the character inspired quite a bit of anti Jewish feeling. After recently watched this movie I realized that the idea of the Borat character was taken from the 1999 Turkish Internet celebrity Mahir:
http://www.ikissyou.org/ , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahir_%C3%87a%C4%9Fr%C4%B1
So the idea was kinda stolen: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6132894-7.html

Anyway, will we ever get back to the AW subject?

I'm now in Central Asia. Recently one guy told me:

"In USA must be so great, there you can sleep with any woman so easily and very quickly without any bullshit, right away".

He sounded he was complaining about local women and thinking that USA is much better.

But in reality here are many women are horny for mens attention and support, also some SW or regular girls available for little money. and many women are very good looking.

It is funny how media/hollywood propaganda makes complete opposite impression of the USA in other countries.

DJ FourMoney

03-11-10, 12:15

Swedes love us because we buy so much armament from them....

But from what I have experienced indirectly, directly and second hand is this -

Cubans are somewhat racist. Again dark skinned Cubans are worst off than the light skinned Cubans and most American Cubans like Mark Rubio are Republicans, need I say more?

Europeans and the British do not like (I won't say hate) Russians or people from former CIS nations, especially the women and you can most likely understand why.

Spaniards in general are equal opportunity haters. They made with the Black Face when Lewis Hamilton was practicing their before the season opener in 2008.

English Speaking Canadians have been at "War" with the French Speaking Canadians for years and they are no closer to resolving that anytime soon.

Black Men and Muslim Men are the most feared but for different reasons.

White Men fear Black Dick, White Men fear Muslims for being Blown Up

Both are hated, but White Men cannot turn their women against them, White Men have successfully turned Black Women against their own men.

Not that is bothers me, other Brothas need to drop that Nationalist Nonsense however, as any woman giving birth to a child with Black blood in it, is known in the United States as a Black Person, so it no longer matters who or what you marry anymore.

I like Australian Women are you kidding? I met two very nice looking girls just working their way around Europe taking jobs as waitresses. These girls unfortunately like Caucasian men, oh well. I know there some that like the taste of chocolate literary. I have put it off for no good reason actually, when I went to Germany I was just in the wrong places.

I needed to be in Asnbach, K-Town, Baumholder, etc, etc. Where being non-military is seen as + to the local women that have already learned their lesson about the US Military. Doc Shank says locals call them "Mud Sharks", eh whatever, as long as they are down for the Brown who cares. I just need to avoid the ones who have been left "presents" by Sgt Johnny St Jock.

So many choices, so little time. I might take a sneak peak early/late spring 2009 for about 10 days. I even found an agency in Volgograd Region that has hooked up African-Americans with Russia Brides before.... As the story goes for one. He picked 60 profiles, they called all of them, told them the deal. 15 were interested. Out of those 15, it narrowed it down to 8, from those 8 he married 1.

Whatever I end up doing, the site has been invaluable and the banter here is second to none.

Doctor_Skank

03-11-10, 12:59

Wow, this thread has become a melting pot of ignorance, slander and stereotypes.

Keep it up, you guys are awesome.

Australiasucks

03-11-10, 14:59

So by that logic DJ, white Americans fear Barack Hussein Obama because he has a big black dick and wants to blow them up white people?? Wow there is no hope for you. You seriously need to change your thinking.

By the way, Sydney, is a big magnet for Israelis and Russian Jews, the Israelis are sick and tired of their country and the Russian Jews are escaping the bigotry of Russia. The most notable thing about the Australian Jewish population is that they seem to go out of their way to be friendly with the much larger Arab population in Australia. I see quite a few of my Israeli workmates often joke with their Syrian and Lebanese coworkers. Note how quiet Russian Jews are under Putin and how they fear him. Putin also known to be a devout Orthodox Christian, and the Eastern Orthodox Church like the Catholic Church has troubled history with Jews. They were more vociferous under Yeltsin and even Gorbachev. The neo Nazi movement is quite out in the open in Russia as I noticed during my trip there.

Russia is also a bad place to be black in Europe, in fact, Obama did not get the kind of warm welcome he got when he visited Germany and Norway. Many Russian women have a big thing for Bollywood films and such though. They also find Latin guys to be hot. Maybe I should consider Russia Asia instead, oh and on the subject of racism, China and Japan are even worse. India is also blatantly racist, even more silly is that they are racist against themselves, you will see advertisements for skin whitening in India. Western European women would usually go out with a black guy over an Indian/Arab/Latino type guy but the Russians have a different mindset.

Borat was inspired by a Russian doctor that the Sascha Cohen met.

Australia just does not have a great sex scene for a perv like me who likes European women with big large breasts and plenty of flesh, on the other hand there is a huge Asian population in my country, so Asian lovers love it. I actually know quite a few Germans who laugh their asses off when I tell them I visit Germany every now and then for fun and good pussy in FKKs. Every thing is a matter of perception, if you eat filet mignon every night, hamburger might taste like the nectar of the gods.

Oh and this thing that Asian guys are not seen with white women because they cannot get them is bullshit, most do not have interest in white women unless she hits their "ideal" image. In their home countries, they see images of blonde godesses and then reality hits them. Often in Europe, I see Asians and white ladies but rarely outside of Europe. I even looked on a Japanese sex board and the big complaint Asians have of white women is that they think many are too fat and many smell bad, I know for a fact that Asians believe whites smell like cheese and dairy, note that most people of European origin consume large amounts of dairy. Asian girls even think this way and often even though you see a lot of Asian women with white men, they are usually average by Asian standards, the best Asians stay with their own kind, most of the Western guys living in Thailand and Asia tend to be bunch of fat losers. I have seen quite a few stunning Asian women in my country and they always go out with another Asian, usually some type of gangster type Asian guy.

I even noticed since most white women have floppy larger breasts, they sweat a lot underneath them, and you can smell something that smells like dairy. Asian girls are smaller breasted and do not have that odor, except for Asians who eat a very Western diet.

Lone Biker

03-12-10, 17:36

Jackson, please, isn't there a politics folder for all this?

I came here lookiing for opinions on American women.

DJ FourMoney

03-13-10, 12:19

Jackson, please, isn't there a politics folder for all this?

I came here lookiing for opinions on American women.

Click back a few pages and you'll find some, its been derailed for the moment, we return you back to regular scheduled programing.

BTW, I have not talked too or seen an AW in more than a month.

What's to talk about?

Westy

03-13-10, 13:38

Jackson, please, isn't there a politics folder for all this?

I came here lookiing for opinions on American women.We have derailed the "American Women" thread, haven't we? Clandestine posted something new to "American Politics" in a valiant effort to reawaken that thread, but we're off on a rant-fest about racism, "dangerous others," and Borat-bashing here.

We aren't even about "American" politics. We've gone global, with Australia's kowtow to the East, Denmark's progression to "Denmarkistan," and the sour bitter fruit of Political Correctness.

I'm wondering if anyone's heard anything good or encouraging about American women, or American anything.

Lone Biker

03-13-10, 18:04

Click back a few pages and you'll find some, its been derailed for the moment, we return you back to regular scheduled programing.

BTW, I have not talked too or seen an AW in more than a month.

What's to talk about?Then there are probably other threads that would better benefit from your contributions.

Already read a few pages back. Since there's nothing in this thread of interest to me anymore I guess I'll move on.

Nyc Expat

03-13-10, 23:55

This thread currently as of this posting contains 573 pages. Thousands of postings on or about AM with occasional detours about their intern’l sisters or politics in general. Marriage in this country can be similar in nature to a two party political system with the strongest individual surviving.

Hasn’t enough already been said about AM :-) when we encounter them in our daily lives in the bedroom, in the kitchen, before and after childbirth, before and after divorce etc. Unless someone has experienced something completely new and different than information posted now, then it’s worthy posting and shared amongst us. There is an enormous amount of repetitious comments.

Australiasucks

03-14-10, 00:24

We have derailed the "American Women" thread, haven't we? Clandestine posted something new to "American Politics" in a valiant effort to reawaken that thread, but we're off on a rant-fest about racism, "dangerous others," and Borat-bashing here.

We aren't even about "American" politics. We've gone global, with Australia's kowtow to the East, Denmark's progression to "Denmarkistan," and the sour bitter fruit of Political Correctness.

I'm wondering if anyone's heard anything good or encouraging about American women, or American anything.

When talking about AWs its tempting to whinge about America, which has plenty of problems. Even though I think Australia sucks, America sucks worse. The real issue I have with Australia the cost of traveling overseas from Oz, its more expensive than anywhere in the world.

Furysys

03-14-10, 01:13

probably one of the last outposts of incorrect thinking is here.

Great Entertainment!!!

DJ FourMoney

03-14-10, 01:26

probably one of the last outposts of incorrect thinking is here.

Great Entertainment!!!

Great post, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Its been derailed but so what, as NYC said enough has been said to fill up a national best seller...

Westy

03-14-10, 06:21

Its been derailed but so what, as NYC said enough has been said to fill up a national best seller.I've got to agree with this. The "troubles we've seen" with American Women are way more than enough to fill several issues of COSMOPOLITAN Magazine, the one that usually shows up at the checkout-lanes of the average USA supermarket with a bunch of cover stories advertising the likes of "Do this with your man and he'll love you for it! "

How the heck many American Women take even a word of COSMO's advice? It makes me weep! It's the obvious reason why "We Mongers" go offshore for our pleasure!

Ya know, even a word of encouragement from a woman can entice a man to change his ways and improve himself. My example is a brasiliera in Paraguay, who suggested that I'd be more fun for her in bed if I lost 10 kilos. By the next time she saw me, I'd lost 20 kilos and I felt that I "looked good enough" to change from double-pleated slacks to Brazilian bluejeans.

I'm of the belief, though, that "American Women" want to be the man in the relationship. They want to rule, they want to run it, they want to put the male gender down. They have displayed their desire that "gender means nothing, " their intention to bash maleness down to nothingness, and their wish to take over and "be the Master" in every sexual relationship. Finally, it seems to me they would prefer it if "the American Man" were to cut off his own testicles and act as if SHE were the man, the Master, the Only God.

I sincerely hope someone on this board will take issue with my statements, disprove them, show me to be wrong-headed about American Women, and refute what I've said. But I don't bet on it, not in my own case.

Jon32

03-14-10, 07:55

On topic post here:

American women are the worst!

Capt Ajax

03-14-10, 19:55

On topic post here:

American women are the worst!

Yes, AM have made them this way. Look at this chick. Who in their right mind is going to bang a chick that looks like this? AM that's who.

http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/supreme-diva-the-hottiest-ssbbw-and-bbw-on-the-planet-37/5338635

Australiasucks

03-14-10, 20:01

Yep, AM have made them this way. Look at this chick. Who in their right mind fucks someone that looks like this.

http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/supreme-diva-the-hottiest-ssbbw-and-bbw-on-the-planet-37/5338635

Maybe someone into farm animals, unfortunately I have seen this in Australia too, there is even a BBW brothel.

Artisttyp

03-14-10, 20:26

Australiasucks

03-14-10, 21:49

This thread is dying.

Jon32

03-14-10, 22:11

This is about a local crime case that took place in NYC this week. This is proof that women have every reason to go out in packs and be paranoid "watch each other's back".

Now this poor girl has to live her life with a broken eye socket . I would be hating men too.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/03/13/2010-03-13_mbarek_lafrem_charged_with_attempted_murder_says_alleged_bar_beating_was_selfdef.html

That's sick. Some people are so fucked up in the head.

This thread is dying.

It's dying because we're back on topic now and you aren't getting replies anymore? lol. Maybe it was dead before it was derailed, but dead and on topic.

Artisttyp

03-15-10, 00:05

That's sick. Some people are so fucked up in the head.

it was dead before it was derailed, but dead and on topic.

What's a dead horse without a can of worms right ?

Attacks like these bring up alot of issues. One of them is... is it worth going out to single bars by yourself ? If you don't travel in large social circles then it can be difficult to approach women for these reasons. Many women have confessed that they only go to bars to have fun. They are concerned for their safety.

Men on the other hand see it as primal hunting ground..not true in most cases. Go to little neighborhood hobo bars for that sort of action. The trendy places don't work like that. Friends introduce friends to pussy. If you don't roll in that kind of a mainstream circle you are fucked in NYC.

Australiasucks

03-15-10, 02:31

What's a dead horse without a can of worms right ?

Attacks like these bring up alot of issues. One of them is... is it worth going out to single bars by yourself ? If you don't travel in large social circles then it can be difficult to approach women for these reasons. Many women have confessed that they only go to bars to have fun. They are concerned for their safety.

Men on the other hand see it as primal hunting ground..not true in most cases. Go to little neighborhood hobo bars for that sort of action. The trendy places don't work like that. Friends introduce friends to pussy. If you don't roll in that kind of a mainstream circle you are fucked in NYC.

That is fucked up and the USA is fucked up too. I am glad I am Australian whenever I hear about shit like that. NYC is a shithole too, how the fuck anyone would want to live in that toilet bowl is beyond me. And by the way London overtook NYC as the most important finance city. Soon it will be Singapore or Hong Kong.

Yes New York is a shitpit, that might sting considering many Yanks from the big apple have some mammoth egos but its true. Most of America sucks too,maybe parts of California and Hawaii have their moments but from what I know from friends who are American is that things just suck over there.

Is America going down the toilet? Is the sky blue?? Duh.

Ezinho

03-15-10, 06:18

Angus Magee

03-15-10, 08:10

...a historical perspective.

Advise to a young AW on the marital duties preceding her wedding night.

http://depts.washington.edu/psy210/1894.html

AM

Nyc Expat

03-15-10, 15:36

Most of America sucks too, maybe parts of California and Hawaii have their moments but from what I know from friends who are American is that things just suck over there.

How much time have you spent in NYC, Cities in California and Hawaii to speak as you do? A tourist vacation or gossip amongst acquaintances doesn't qualify one as a serious critic.

That's just as foolish as tourists traveling in Europe by air or ship spending 5-12 hours in a country's capital or major port, then saying how awful or great that country is or their women are ugly or gorgeous.

To criticize another country and/or culture you have to live there for a lengthy period of time f.ex. one year preferrably longer.

Yes, there are many problems in America but there are more elsewhere.
You have to be adventurous, explore and be positive to find your soulmate whereever she may be and a society that suits your requirements.

Australiasucks

03-15-10, 15:50

I used to travel three or four times a year to the US West Coast, I have been to New York over 6 times in the past five years. During one of those trips I spent well over a couple of months there. I have friends who are American who live on the East and West Coast. Most of these people are very proud Americans and would quickly defend their country if they heard any critique but over the past few years they do not seem to aggressively defend their nation from criticism and many seem to have an increasingly bleak view of America these days. As an Aussie I could not contemplate living in NYC or any East Coast city, first of all the cold and lack of sun would be a major demerit. The West Coast bears a superficial similarity to the East Coast of Australia but a lot more developed. I could see myself living in California but out East I would never contemplate that.

New York is particularly a blood pressure raising kind of place. Even if you do not believe me there are medical studies that prove that living in a noisy urban environment increases blood pressure, nervousness, and anxiety. I actually measure it myself during the forced business trips I have taken there and it went up substantially. There is a sharp divide between a very wealthy Manhattan and four mostly poor boros that we call suburbs in Australia. I remember being stuck on the 6 train in Manhattan and telling this depressed looking woman how do people live here? She nodded in agreement, she seemed like a poor soul stuck in the rotten apple. Its also obvious from the demeanor of many New Yorkers that they do not like it there either, and hence there is a large exodus of people from that city. I read New York lost over 1.5 million residents since 2001, mostly to be replaced with illegal aliens.
If you do not believe me that there is an exodus of people from New York:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703574604574499772371161800.html the article refers to the entire state not just nyc but states that middle class people are leaving.

From my Aussie point of view America seems like some kind of facist police state, even the immigration people in LAX carry firearms and dress in a military police like uniform. I do not see that in Australia or in good number of European countries. People seem to always have a sense of urgency, are in a rush. Also the infrastructure is overpowering and makes the citizens feel insignificant.

ThatGuy865

03-15-10, 19:15

The guys who bash AW on here are just either old guys who no longer have the looks nor money to attract a desirable woman. Also there's the young guys who never knew how to score with women, scared of a little rejection. A couple of women turned them down and the guys tucked their tails between their sorry wimpy asses and now want to bash all AW because of their insecurities. You guys want fine women. Well get your asses in shape, dress decent, try a breath mint or two, and maybe some cologne. Get a personality. Then you might attract a babe, maybe two.

There are obviously fine supportive women in america. I don't see no stampede of men flying out of the country. If it wasn't for the 911 security changes of passports needed for canada and mexico, shit only 17 to 20% of americans were even leaving the country for tourism. And thats counting women and kids.

AustraliaSucks. Your name says it all. You don't see any with Americasucks on this site. American's Love America even with all its problems we still definitely think we are better than Australia. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on that country. Maybe China has more money. But definitely not as progressive. And we got more style than any where in the world. You can't name one thing that the world imitates from australia. But from america. The world imitates our styles, slang, mannerism. We lead the world follows. So of course the little people like you and yours. Want to bash the leader.

ThatGuy. American lover "women and country".

Peace out

Capt Ajax

03-16-10, 00:55

Here's something that should [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off every taxpaying American and her a**hole American Husband supports her.

A New Jersey Woman Wants to Weigh 1,000 Pounds

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,589377,00.html

Simpson is proud of the Guinness World Record she holds now for the world’s fattest mother, and her boyfriend, Philippe, is proud of her too. Philippe, 49, supports her thousand-pound goal, even if that is nearly seven times his own weight of 150 pounds. “I think he’d like it if I was bigger,” Simpson said. “He’s a real belly man, and completely supports me.”

Someday, the experts say, we all may support her.

Australiasucks

03-16-10, 01:21

The USA Sucks!!!! Dahahhalallallaal!!!!!

Nyc Expat

03-16-10, 01:35

LOL from Fox. Of course.
The bigger, the better. Philippe is looking for the fastest route out of the marriage. A massive heart attack on his sweetheart. Perhaps, he's just white trash and brain dead like her.

Country of origin is irrelevant. I'm sure there are hugh individuals in Australia as well but without an insane media service as fox to publicize it.

ThatGuy865

03-16-10, 02:58

The USA Sucks! Dahahhalallallaal!Don't laugh too loud. It states here australia is surpassing america for fattest country in the world

http://www.Forbes.com/2008/06/20/australian-obesity-survey-markets-equity-cx_jc_0620markets06.html

http://www.News-medical.net/news/2008/06/23/39369.aspx

Looks like you hogs down under have put one to many shrimps on them there barbies. Hahahaha. AustralianFatty.

DJ FourMoney

03-16-10, 03:10

This AW is the 43rd fattest woman in the world: Her goal? To become the FATTEST woman in the world!

Reason #853 why Ezinho no longer lives in America:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1257850/Super-sized-mother-determined-worlds-fattest-woman-years.html#ixzz0iAnfZW3n

I feel sorry for the Brotha (Look at the child) that feels this is the best he can do and has turned their relationship into a fetish.

DJ FourMoney

03-16-10, 03:23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h_howDL0_M - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwj3IYC9lQw - Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL20JAnC1sI - Part 3

I've got to agree with this. The "troubles we've seen" with American Women are way more than enough to fill several issues of COSMOPOLITAN Magazine, the one that usually shows up at the checkout-lanes of the average USA supermarket with a bunch of cover stories advertising the likes of "Do this with your man and he'll love you for it! "

How the heck many American Women take even a word of COSMO's advice? It makes me weep! It's the obvious reason why "We Mongers" go offshore for our pleasure!

Ya know, even a word of encouragement from a woman can entice a man to change his ways and improve himself. My example is a brasiliera in Paraguay, who suggested that I'd be more fun for her in bed if I lost 10 kilos. By the next time she saw me, I'd lost 20 kilos and I felt that I "looked good enough" to change from double-pleated slacks to Brazilian bluejeans.

I'm of the belief, though, that "American Women" want to be the man in the relationship. They want to rule, they want to run it, they want to put the male gender down. They have displayed their desire that "gender means nothing, " their intention to bash maleness down to nothingness, and their wish to take over and "be the Master" in every sexual relationship. Finally, it seems to me they would prefer it if "the American Man" were to cut off his own testicles and act as if SHE were the man, the Master, the Only God.

I sincerely hope someone on this board will take issue with my statements, disprove them, show me to be wrong-headed about American Women, and refute what I've said. But I don't bet on it, not in my own case.

Artisttyp

03-16-10, 04:02

I feel sorry for the Brotha (Look at the child) that feels this is the best he can do and has turned their relationship into a fetish.

There was an excellent B movie (Feed) about fatties and their "feeders". It's worth a look on netflix. The main character is an aussie cop!

Some people are totally into it.

Jon32

03-16-10, 12:48

The guys who bash AW on here are just either old guys who no longer have the looks nor money to attract a desirable woman. Also there's the young guys who never knew how to score with women, scared of a little rejection. A couple of women turned them down and the guys tucked their tails between their sorry wimpy asses and now want to bash all AW because of their insecurities. You guys want fine women. Well get your asses in shape, dress decent, try a breath mint or two, and maybe some cologne. Get a personality. Then you might attract a babe, maybe two.

This makes no sense, there are hot women all over the world. And I think most would consider nordic women are the hottest. If american women are the best and we need to dress up, why are superstars who can get any woman they want marrying from other countries (johnny depp(married french woman and living in france), matthew mcconaughey(brasilian girl), george clooney(not married but dating italian and living in italy)). I dont know anyone who is banging down the door to get into america for their women, but people defenitely travel to brazil, sweden, etc only because they think the women are hot.

If it wasn't for the 911 security changes of passports needed for canada and mexico, shit only 17 to 20% of americans were even leaving the country for tourism. And thats counting women and kids.

Well just based on location, how easy is it for someone to go to Georgia who lives in Florida as opposed to going to Amsterdamn. It's a hell of a lot more expensive and a different language. Easier to jump in the car and drive for 3 hours.

The world imitates our styles, slang, mannerism.

As for style, I dont think many countries have worse style than America. After a while in Europe, the fashion here is much better. And the fashion capitals of the world, Milan, London, New York.... But I see it all over europe. Yes you guys have new york, but go to Kansas and you'll see shirtless suspenders.

Jon32

03-16-10, 12:53

Don't laugh too loud. It states here australia is surpassing america for fattest country in the world

http://www.Forbes.com/2008/06/20/australian-obesity-survey-markets-equity-cx_jc_0620markets06.html

http://www.News-medical.net/news/2008/06/23/39369.aspx

Looks like you hogs down under have put one to many shrimps on them there barbies. Hahahaha. AustralianFatty.

AustraliaSucks is now AustraliaFatAss

Jon32

03-16-10, 13:06

that is fucked up and the usa is fucked up too. i am glad i am australian whenever i hear about shit like that. nyc is a shithole too, how the fuck anyone would want to live in that toilet bowl is beyond me. and by the way london overtook nyc as the most important finance city. soon it will be singapore or hong kong.

yes new york is a shitpit, that might sting considering many yanks from the big apple have some mammoth egos but its true. most of america sucks too,maybe parts of california and hawaii have their moments but from what i know from friends who are american is that things just suck over there.

is america going down the toilet? is the sky blue?? duh.

it seems like all your posts are trolls on america? and you don't think that australia has just as disturbed people? a 10 second search on google came up with a more horrendous story then the one that was posted...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7452116.stm

9 men [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a 10 year old girl? that's a country you love? there are fucked up people everywhere.

after more research, i found that these people weren't even sentenced. when it first happened. onlly after public outcry were they sentenced.

your "oz" doesnt sound like oz to me. or do aboriginal people not count for you.

here's a commentary on racism in australia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/nickbryant/2009/10/is_australia_unusually_racist.html

yeah, great country. once again, there's racism everywhere. sounds to me like your bitter at the usa for some reason. better get working on your own problems before you hate on others so much. and it looks like you got a hell of a lot of problems to work on there.

ThatGuy865

03-16-10, 14:35

This makes no sense, there are hot women all over the world. And I think most would consider nordic women are the hottest. If american women are the best and we need to dress up, why are superstars who can get any woman they want marrying from other countries (johnny depp(married french woman and living in france), matthew mcconaughey(brasilian girl), george clooney(not married but dating italian and living in italy)). I don't know anyone who is banging down the door to get into america for their women, but people defenitely travel to brazil, sweden, etc only because they think the women are hot.first off jon, If you read the paragraph. No where does it state AW are the hottest woman in the world. I only talked about the attitude of guys who bash AW so adamatly. I agree there are beautiful women all over the world. And for every actor you can name who married out of the country I can name 5 who didn't. So that really doesn't mean alot.

Well just based on location, how easy is it for someone to go to Georgia who lives in Florida as opposed to going to Amsterdamn. It's a hell of a lot more expensive and a different language. Easier to jump in the car and drive for 3 hours.Its not about how easy it is to get to one state or another, the reason I stated the fact is that obviously if AM as a whole felt AW were not as good as women from other countries. There would have been more AM with passports going out of the country. Going to another state will only get them an AW from another state. So obviously the majority of AM like and are satisfied with AW.

As for style, I don't think many countries have worse style than America. After a while in Europe, the fashion here is much better. And the fashion capitals of the world, Milan, London, New York. But I see it all over europe. Yes you guys have new york, but go to Kansas and you'll see shirtless suspenders.Whether good or bad. Whether you like it or not. But baseball caps worn on the side, baggy pants, throw back jerseys, you know the look. There are young people in every part of the world who dress like that. Where did that come from. Thats right 100% America.

Can you name a look. Whether you like it or not. That another country has been able to get any age group across the world to copy.

Didn't think so.

Goga Fung

03-16-10, 18:45

Australiasucks

03-16-10, 18:56

it seems like all your posts are trolls on america? and you don't think that australia has just as disturbed people? a 10 second search on google came up with a more horrendous story then the one that was posted...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7452116.stm

9 men [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a 10 year old girl? that's a country you love? there are fucked up people everywhere.

after more research, i found that these people weren't even sentenced. when it first happened. onlly after public outcry were they sentenced.

your "oz" doesnt sound like oz to me. or do aboriginal people not count for you.

here's a commentary on racism in australia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/nickbryant/2009/10/is_australia_unusually_racist.html

yeah, great country. once again, there's racism everywhere. sounds to me like your bitter at the usa for some reason. better get working on your own problems before you hate on others so much. and it looks like you got a hell of a lot of problems to work on there.

at least australia knows who the original inhabitants of the land are unlike most americans.

Australiasucks

03-16-10, 22:17

ThatGuy865

03-16-10, 23:14

Yeah, if AW were good enough, AM would not go out of the country for other women. Or millions of American men would not have sexless lives. It looks like only in USA one can meet so many desperate men without any hope to get a woman.

I'm now in Central Asia. Here is one very fucked up looking car mechanic guy, often drunk and dirty. Still he can get women. But in USA that type of a guy would not have any hope to be in a women company.

I also know a very successful good-looking and cool American guy. He chose to marry a Russian waitress, even though many supposedly quality American girls wanted him.

The wife of one friend in USA recently left him. Now he is very upset, getting drunk, and do not any hope to find another woman in USA. But if he was in another country hew would probably would not give a shit so much.

I do not care about the reasons of these "phenomena", the results is what counts.So you know 3 guys even if it were 10 guys with hard luck stories. Wow. That really is enough to judge how ALL men are doing in America. You really nailed it. Gone Fool.

ThatGuy865

03-16-10, 23:20

Westy

03-17-10, 02:37

There's no hope but at least somebody sees the problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h_howDL0_M - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwj3IYC9lQw - Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL20JAnC1sI - Part 3
Alison Armstrong, in these videos, really impressed the heck out of me. And also DEpressed me, some. Here is at least one woman who isn't promoting the attitude that "the guys are all to blame, it's all the fault of the men, " which seems to be the stock attitude of women in the USA. Or at least in the Washington, DC area, my home for the past fifty years.

I've gotten hypersensitized to that attitude in the women of my homeland. I've gotten enough of that "all your fault" rhetoric and "You're to blame" behavior in the Seventies and Eighties; I got sufficiently averse to it that my current reaction to American women is, "Why bother with these b! +c#es? They have made it so horridly plain that they want nothing whatsoever to do with me! "

It was not until my first night in Asuncion, Paraguay (in company with some colleagues and friends who knew the score in that country) that I found there were women who didn't ride the attitude so many USA women take about men. I felt valued and appreciated, and that can feel "better than sex. "

And now, here is this remarkable woman with her remarkable insights. My hat is off to her. I hope she doesn't get lynched by the feminazis.

Monger#77

03-17-10, 04:46

You Yanks should start getting used to being the object of revulsion and disgust rather than admiration. You are all a bunch of fuckwits. So go fuck yourselves, now I plan to put anyone identified as an American unless African American or otherwise on "ignore".

Obama has finally exposed himself as a weak elitist leader who only helps his rich friends on Wall Street and is also enabling the resurrection of a new Soviet empire as well as a stronger EU, China, India, basically allowing the rest of the world to accelerate. Even if he does not win in 2012 it will not change the course of history which is seeing the sun set on the American empire.

I'm an unPatriotic American. I view the USA as a big bully, which is really infecting the rest of the world with feminism, doing its best to destroy other societies.

My greatest fear is that after the fall of this empire, the elites who caused all this nonsense, will just move on to more fertile territory (namely some of the countries you listed above), and then wreck their financial and cultural manipulation in those new countries as well. Basically they will use the American model to destroy Brazil, China (and they've already made huge gains in India).

These people are Globalists. They want Americans to believe in patriotism, but these same elite scum claim no particular nationality. Americans are just naive and buy the media propaganda that they should die for the US, while the people selling Americans that propaganda are profiting hand over first from those boys dying "for the empire" ( a hoooyuuge lie).

I could go on. I'm not a regular reader here so any response wont be immediate. I can debate but sometimes one post, if well stated, is powerful enough.

Monger#77

03-17-10, 04:58

Goga Fung

03-17-10, 08:40

So you know 3 guys even if it were 10 guys with hard luck stories. Wow. That really is enough to judge how ALL men are doing in America. You really nailed it. Gone Fool.Why do I need to list everyone I know? Those were just few examples. I have probably met hundreds of couples in USA. Most of the good looking nice wives were eastern European or Latin. The very few good American ones were rather exceptions. People have been saying about them "wow, she is such a nice woman even though she is American". I do not have any reason to make this up. It's only observations throughout several years. I never see that a European or Latin man wants an AW instead of their own women. But I see all the time when AM are looking for foreign women. I would assume they are looking for something better, not worse.

Rubber Nursey

03-17-10, 09:22

Thought you guys might get a chuckle out of this...

http://www.pete.com/media/1096/Argument_POV/ :)

Jon32

03-17-10, 11:50

If you read the paragraph. No where does it state AW are the hottest woman in the world. I only talked about the attitude of guys who bash AW so adamatly. I agree there are beautiful women all over the world.

You're right you did not say that. I thought you judged a woman being desireable or not (which according to you AW are the most desireable) based on how pretty she was along with personality. For bad personality(i.e. american attitude) and not the prettiest(american women are not the hottest) then yeah, AW are the most desirable.

And for every actor you can name who married out of the country I can name 5 who didn't. So that really doesn't mean alot.

According to you every AM who can't attract an AW is old and ugly or young and an idiot, here are 3 examples clearly not the case - men at the top of the food chain so to speak. Which only means that you're incorrect that *all* AM who can attract do not fall into your category.

Its not about how easy it is to get to one state or another, the reason I stated the fact is that obviously if AM as a whole felt AW were not as good as women from other countries. There would have been more AM with passports going out of the country. Going to another state will only get them an AW from another state. So obviously the majority of AM like and are satisfied with AW.

Satisfied or trapped? This was an example based on cost and time. Not everyone can afford to get away on world vacations like members on this board are able to. And 99% of this board would probably agree that with their experience traveling (some very extensively) abroad, the women are better overseas. Not sure where you have been in the world, but seems you only like to post in the Phillipines section and also post how much you love antagonizing this section.

We finally have a forum where we can discuss how bad American women are. So you come here to declare all of us short, fat, smelly and poor?

I think he'd be surprised how many AM who were in their 30s, good looking, and had game left the country to find other women . And ask any young woman what their favorite age is... almost always 30 something for a guy.

Westy

03-17-10, 14:16

Obama has finally exposed himself as a weak elitist leader who only helps his rich friends on Wall Street and is also enabling the resurrection of a new Soviet empire as well as a stronger EU, China, India, basically allowing the rest of the world to accelerate. Even if he does not win in 2012 it will not change the course of history which is seeing the sun set on the American empire."AustralianSucksHimselfOff" won't see this, because I am from the USA and I admit it. But I'm afraid history may bear him out, here.

I wish I could still be proud of my homeland, rather than reluctant to name it and defensive about talking about it. At least the Obama-Reid-Pelosi Machine haven't yet re-named it the "Democratic People's Republic. "

DJ FourMoney

03-17-10, 20:47

first off jon, If you read the paragraph. No where does it state AW are the hottest woman in the world. I only talked about the attitude of guys who bash AW so adamatly. I agree there are beautiful women all over the world. And for every actor you can name who married out of the country I can name 5 who didn't. So that really doesn't mean alot.

Its not about how easy it is to get to one state or another, the reason I stated the fact is that obviously if AM as a whole felt AW were not as good as women from other countries. There would have been more AM with passports going out of the country. Going to another state will only get them an AW from another state. So obviously the majority of AM like and are satisfied with AW.

Whether good or bad. Whether you like it or not. But baseball caps worn on the side, baggy pants, throw back jerseys, you know the look. There are young people in every part of the world who dress like that. Where did that come from. Thats right 100% America.

Can you name a look. Whether you like it or not. That another country has been able to get any age group across the world to copy.

Didn't think so.

I don't know why you believe some of us in this thread are bitter.

I am making an effort to better myself, FOR MYSELF not for anybody else. Why should I reward an AW with my additional earnings? America is a country largely of limited thinking, limited vision and limited education.

The middle of the country is raft with this. The Government is bending over backwards to keep this part of the country and the Deep South relevant. I suppose you haven't heard the revisionist in Texas that want to change how Social Studies is taught and who they should focus on (Ultra Conservatives).

They want to lessen the impact of Thomas Jefferson for CS! They demonize FDR and if wasn't for him there would have been no Tennessee Valley Plan and as I said before they would still be using oil burning lanterns and outhouses.

But I digress...

Who contacts me online? Not AW, but when they do, its horrible and I'm being kind. For some men that aren't alpha males or whatever are going to struggle. Between turning into males themselves and immature behavior well into their 40's this hardly makes them ideal. Plus I can't keep saying it -

German Woman - 28
Ukrainian Woman - 24
Russian Woman - 25

Last time I logged onto Plenty of Fish:

Woman from Ventura - 42
Woman from Los Angeles - 39
Woman from Fontana - 38

I rest my case...

DJ FourMoney

03-17-10, 21:07

"AustralianSucksHimselfOff" won't see this, because I am from the USA and I admit it. But I'm afraid history may bear him out, here.

I wish I could still be proud of my homeland, rather than reluctant to name it and defensive about talking about it. At least the Obama-Reid-Pelosi Machine haven't yet re-named it the "Democratic People's Republic. "

At the risk of dragging this debate from the Political thread, both parties are the problem. Inaction by the Senate is not the three people you listed faults. As it stands 209 bills have been passed by the House and are sitting in the Senate waiting to be taken up. Feet dragging by the Republicans is visible to Stevie Wonder and approval rating of the Republicans is near single digits.

You can't have it named "Democratic" anything as long as the Government is largely controlled by what would be termed in Outlaw Star "The Three Powers In Space"

The Pirate Guild (Wall St)

The Space Forces (Military Industrial Complex)

The Outlaws (Tea Parties, White Power, Religious Right)

This is all setting up for a really messy and deadly minor revolution.

Australiasucks

03-17-10, 22:04

Australia just a few years ago was led by John Howard, who was basically a bootlicker for Clinton and then Bush, he had a very strong pro America agenda that he shoved down Australia's throats. People finally said enough was enough and brought in Kevin Rudd, who speaks fluent Mandarin and is now engineering a pro China policy. Rudd seems to like Obama but its clear he is distancing himself from the USA, Australian soldiers have left Iraq for one thing. He was promising to get more Australians killed in Afghanistan, another pointless war, a nation which defeated both Imperial Britain and the USSR.

History is bearing me out. You blokes are angry at me but deep down you know I am right. Many right wing Aussies are worried about American decline dooming Australia but the opposite has happened, the Asians are keeping food on our tables, Australia's unemployment is about 5 percent, our per capita income at current exchange rates is now a little higher than America's, 10 years ago it was half. Asians also associate us with kangaroos and koalas and nice beaches, not a bunch of rednecks who harass aboriginals. They will not attack Australia because to them this is their Florida, they do not want to destroy their vacation homes. LOL.

Nyc Expat

03-17-10, 22:24

Hung Man 1808

03-17-10, 22:29

asians also associate us with kangaroos and koalas and nice beaches, not a bunch of rednecks who harass aboriginals.

you don't spend much time in asia, or speak to asians living in that region - as they all recall the name "pauline hanson" more than ten years after her speeches that kicked off the "aussie hate asians" thing. the whole speech was blown out of proportion, but that viewpoint still exists today.

go anywhere in asia where oz "rednecks" are (bali, phuket are good examples) and i see plenty of asians getting the wrong impression! btw, show us how "aussie" you are, and give the local word for "redneck". go on, i know you can..

that said (back on topic) aussie women are sharing similar characteristics to american women. put an aussie guy in the us however, and he will do better at home due to the accent (not that anyone can understand it!!). vice versa for an american in oz.

no matter, i still go for imported women, or try exporting myself as much as possible.

btw, australiasucks, do the letters "cbgb" mean anything to you?

Australiasucks

03-17-10, 22:29

With a PM that's pro-China, your country's economy is doomed with inferior made, cheap Chinese products flooding your market.

Asian dinner tables from American dollars for products. Hey guys, remember flipping your friends ear "Just as I thought made in Japan". Now its made in China.

And you Danes are going to get run over by the Germans. You think neo Nazism is only in Austria, you are truly deluded, Nazism is being rebranded in a new from by the Catholic Germanic EU.Is not just the least bit suspicious that the Catholic Church elected Josef Razinger who was Hitler youth and has repeatedly made controversial remarks about Jews and Muslims? If you have not heard it you must be a fool. They did it in the past. Even in France and Italy you see a Neo Nazi movement masked a conservative movement. Spain???? Ditto. You say they only hate Muslims in Europe, but in Spain, South American immigrants are treated worse than dirt.

Keep a note of Karl Theodor Zu Guttenberg, probably most charismatic German speaking politician since you know who. I have a bit of an instinct about him.

The USA sucks, I am will be in Germany in June, maybe we can have a Kolsch, you do not even live there and most American expats will love to bag their homeland out.

China is rapidly modernizing and becoming the new pinnacle of human progress. People used to say Japanese products were shit in the 1960s and 70s.

The real Obama:
http://wildmanhangout.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/image001.png

Joe Biden though cracks me up, he was telling the Israelis to stop building settlements or the US will not protect Israel from Iran. Anyway I know pretty much how that is going turn out, and look up Mr. Zu Guttenberg, sounds like an insignificant Eurocrat, he seems like much more.

Australiasucks

03-17-10, 22:34

you don't spend much time in asia, or speak to asians living in that region - as they all recall the name "pauline hanson" more than ten years after her speeches that kicked off the "aussie hate asians" thing. the whole speech was blown out of proportion, but that viewpoint still exists today.

go anywhere in asia where oz "rednecks" are (bali, phuket are good examples) and i see plenty of asians getting the wrong impression! btw, show us how "aussie" you are, and give the local word for "redneck". go on, i know you can..

that said (back on topic) aussie women are sharing similar characteristics to american women. put an aussie guy in the us however, and he will do better at home due to the accent (not that anyone can understand it!!). vice versa for an american in oz.

no matter, i still go for imported women, or try exporting myself as much as possible.

btw, australiasucks, do the letters "cbgb" mean anything to you?

cbgb wtf?!!! americans in oz?? most are seen as losers, few americans stick around in australia because they realize aussies do not think much of them. many yanks go to australia with the idea that they will get their asses kissed.
most australians who go to the us wind up struggling, that whole idea of people becoming famous is bullshit. and mel gibson is an american not an aussie, he moved to australia as a kid and i think he is a dipshit.

pauline hanson is a stupid **** like most white aussie women, but they are easily replaced. hanson left australia, hahahhahahha!!! asians are rapidly integrating into australia and will be the new dominant group within a couple of decades. official estimates say australia is only 10 percent asian but its really more than 30 percent.

Australiasucks

03-18-10, 00:40

Danish tough guy!!!! LOL
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6973966.ece

I deal with Lebanese on a daily basis, a good cricket bat deals with them nicely.

East Germans seem to be much hardier than their West German compatriots.

Goga Fung

03-18-10, 02:08

Its not about how easy it is to get to one state or another, the reason I stated the fact is that obviously if AM as a whole felt AW were not as good as women from other countries. There would have been more AM with passports going out of the country. Going to another state will only get them an AW from another state. So obviously the majority of AM like and are satisfied with AW.When people are in prison, they are obviously satisfied with their stuff too, right? No wonder people call USA sex prison

Whether good or bad. Whether you like it or not. But baseball caps worn on the side, baggy pants, throw back jerseys, you know the look. There are young people in every part of the world who dress like that. Where did that come from. Thats right 100% America.That is not true. In many places in the world you would not see that. And if some young people do that, it is considered really bad by others. Even in the USA I have talked to some older people, they are really pissed off by the way how young Americans behave and look.

Where I'm now, people try to dress nice, girls are gorgeous(even though average salary $100-$200), and nobody needs or misses those baseball caps and baggy pants. No need to prove that you're too cool that you can dress like a bum

ThatGuy865

03-18-10, 03:12

America is a country largely of limited thinking, limited vision and limited education.Just about every modern technological advances were created by an American. Limited vision. I think not. What country surpasses the USA. NONE

According to you every AM who can't attract an AW is old and ugly or young and an idiot, here are 3 examples clearly not the case. Men at the top of the food chain so to speak. Which only means that you're incorrect that *all* AM who can attract do not fall into your category.As I stated the ones who CAN'T get an AW. Those actors CAN get AW they just so happen to have married foreign women. Big difference.

If the guys on here were saying. Dam I banged so many AW. Just for a change of pace I tried a Brazilian and she treated me so good so I married her. That would be one thing.

But they are saying AW are no good, they give me a hard time, just want to take my money, every time I try they turn me down. I have to jump thru hoops. Woman from other countries in the world are better.

Well those are the guys I'm talking about.

Voyajer1

03-18-10, 11:04

No one here that I can recall complained about the USA in terms of its resources. We have the very best the world has to offer in many categoreis: Computers, medicine, movies, durable goods, roads, airplanes etc. There are other areas that could use some improvement, but that is not what we are talking about, are we? It is the AW that's destroying the foundation of this Sex Prison.

The institution of marriage is virtually gone, at least in my eyes. Marrying an AW is fraught with peril. This Industrialized country decease has placed the male secondary to females in any kind of dispute. Dating is a headache, the deceitful, “trap a man” games AW’s women play to get the ring, and then the complete change of behavior when the relationship reaches its desired destination has soured a lot of males from asking the woman’s hand in marriage.

Why do you think the Latinos are going to be a majority in Sex Prison really soon? Do you think it has anything to do with illegal aliens? No. It is a cultural issue. They are having babies far quicker than the white, Anglo-Saxon, Native American, Oriental, African-American combined, because the woman normally knows her place in the marriage. Don’t believe what I say? Just look around, your eyes are not lying to you.

There needs to be some kind of revolution for things to dramatically change course in America. The Germans figured it out. They are paying their citizens to have babies. Why? For years, they were losing their identity of a nation and their population was becoming too old to be able to move forward as a nation. If you think for one second that we are not there, again, just look around. Unless something changes soon, our way of life is in for some dramatic change. The root cause of the problem can’t be the male. The problem is how one-sided the law is when something goes astray and the women KNOW how to stick it to their partner. Like a pendulum, if policy does not swing in our favor soon, then we are all doomed to suffer the consequences.

Just about every modern technological advances were created by an American. Limited vision. I think not. What country surpasses the USA. NONE

As I stated the ones who CAN'T get an AW. Those actors CAN get AW they just so happen to have married foreign women. Big difference.

If the guys on here were saying. Dam I banged so many AW. Just for a change of pace I tried a Brazilian and she treated me so good so I married her. That would be one thing.

But they are saying AW are no good, they give me a hard time, just want to take my money, every time I try they turn me down. I have to jump thru hoops. Woman from other countries in the world are better.

Well those are the guys I'm talking about.

Australiasucks

03-18-10, 14:07

Anglo women over the past three generations began to liberate themselves during the 1960s. Gloria Steinem became very active during that time, and the American Baby boomers started initiating the changes that have led to today's contemporary America. Australia followed as well but lagged America by a few years. Germaine Greer is the Australian version of Steinem. Feminism worked on the belief that men can do only evil and women can do only good. Even where I grew up one of my friend's fathers always used to belt up his mother, that is wrong, but most men even during that time did not engage in such behavior. So a few bad apples spoiled the bunch in the eyes of the feminists. In some countries where "traditional" values are dominant, feminism is becoming fashionable. Just see what Asia is like in 20 years. Latin American women maybe traditional now but I meet Hispanic immigrants in Australia and they modernize rapidly, so its only a matter of time for them. Economic progress levels the playing field, a woman does not need a man to eat, and therefore she values him less. This is what has happened in the US and most Western countries.

Clandestine782

03-18-10, 15:04

China is rapidly modernizing and becoming the new pinnacle of human progress. People used to say Japanese products were shit in the 1960s and 70s.Ha ha ha. Tee hee hee. It is to laugh. I have lived here for 6 years now, and the one thing that China shouldn't be able to do wrong is produce more Chinese women (they are among the best products of evolution), and they can't even get *that* right. (They have a habit of aborting their baby girls such that there is something like a 20% excess of males to females here. In my school, I took the trouble to count a couple of classes today. 2:1, male: female in my classes. I won't bother to count again over the next week, since you are so hysterical that facts won't do any good talking to you anyway. You can look back over my other posts and see where I have posted many links that demonstrate the sex imbalance. It started an awful flame war a few months back.)

But.........even at a place where I worked before, the school saw fit to install a single window heater/ air conditioner in each room. It costs something like 600RMB per month for a single heater, and with the poor quality of heaters here, at least one heater is broken even single day. I asked the principal of the school: "What would be the problem with just having a boiler? I know that it costs at least 60,000RMB per month to heat the school one air conditioner at a time (and none of the halls, since no one sees fit to heat them up)?" He said to me: "Oh, well I worked at a school before, and sometimes the classrooms weren't occupied. So, a boiler was a waste of money because not every single classroom was occupied at all times?" (Huh? Huh? Huh?) I didn't even get into the conversation with him of a cost/ benefit calculation (i.e, it might work out cheaper to have a boiler because it not powered by electricity--very expensive here-- and that is only one thing that could be broken at any time EVEN IF some classrooms were heated while empty.) They have something like 30 pianos at this school, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is out of tune (that is what will happen if you put a piano into a building that is not much better than outdoors--or is at least so cold and damp during winter/ rainy times that it really defeats the purpose of having a building at all).

So, they are moving into another building and they took the air conditioners out of the classrooms at the beginning of last year's term (even though the school was closed for a month before school started again). At one point, the students were bringing blankets to class because you could see your breath in the classrooms. WTF? But it gets cuter: The school took all the air conditioners to the second floor (after they lied and said that they had been moved to a new school) and PAINTED them so that maybe we would believe that they were new. And this is on top of the fact that that school was government owned before and the provincial government sold it to a private investor-- who promptly proceeded to set about destroying the quality of the school by taking as many short cuts as possible.

This principle seems to extend to manufacturing. *Derisive laughter*. I have just finished reading a book called "Poorly Made In China" (Paul Midler). I suggest that you stop screeching long enough to be informed and check out that book. For fuck's sake, people here even have a hard time making shampoo to specification. And what's so bad is that China has had a 1,000 year lead on Japan and still managed to be overtaken by them.

What else? If you *actually* look on the ground, you will see that ALL police cars are foreign (mostly Volkswagen) and about 90% of cars that you will see on the street are foreign (and this is after the 100% surcharge that is put onto foreign vehicles). The people here are STILL buying foreign cars in preference to Chinese cars at 3x the price.

China also spends a lot of time worried about its exchange rate. And the reason is because they are trying to keep people employed based on lower wages (instead of higher quality-- and that's a diametric continuum of higher wages/ higher quality vs. lower wages/ lower quality) and they have bought up a bunch of money losing T bills that are going to turn to trash at the same rate that an eventual revaluation occurs. If there was such incredible technological quality here, then the exchange rate would be an afterthought (the same way it is in Japan or Canada or any other first world country that has floating exchange rates). *Actions speak louder than words!!!*

I can write well past the word limit, but recommend that you actually do some reading. Or is that too much to ask? I think it is, and it appears that you are a troll. But add all the factual evidence that you have never bothered to look up (along with the ACTIVE AND PROFOUND hostility that Chinese people have toward *any* type of innovation of ANY type), and not only can you see that your statements are 150% wrong, but that they are not likely to come true in the foreseeable future. (Everything that needed to be figured out here was figured out in the Qin Dynasty- 230BC-- and never improved upon. Ever.)

Australiasucks

03-18-10, 15:55

Volkswagen??? Volkswagen is German and they have plants in Wolfsburg and in Mexico. I used to own a Ford, constantly had to do work on it. Later dumped it for a Toyota, change the oil every three months, and it has not had a single problem. I bought the Ford for about 10k AUD, and spent over 5k AUD in parts. I bought the Toyota with 200,000 km, it now has nearly 400k. My Ford crapped out at 150k kilometers. Many of my American friends think GM and Ford cars that are made in Australia are of much better quality than those designed and made in the USA.

Right now Chinese made goods are considered poor by Western standards but anyhow if you go to your Walmart or local mall, you will see "Made in China" on virtually everything. China is propping up the US Dollar solely because Americans buy Chinese goods, any kind of trade war would cause the US Dollar to collapse. Obama seems to be instigating a trade war with China. I have friends in America, who work in many industries and see the US losing its ground on all fronts except a few. Medical care in the US is still better quality than most of the world. I am old enough to remember when people thought Hondas and Toyotas were shit cars, that was back in the late 60s and 70s. Then Japan caught on in the 1980s with high quality products that demolished Detroit and also American electronics makers like RCA and Zenith.

If you met me 15 years ago, I would not say all this stuff today. In an odd way I am kind of warning you that the direction of the USA in the current time period and over the last eight years will result in America's downfall.

Also at the rate at which all those illegal hispanics keep invading your country, the Anglo Euro population of America will soon be a minority. So far its been relatively quiet but if the economic crisis continues things will get ugly quickly. I guess you have to start saying Buenos Dias rather than Good Morning over there. I have seen California last year and had to seriously compare it to the early 1980s. Last year I thought I was in Guadalajara. Miami?? Oh fuck, is that Havana. Asians are flooding into Australia but relations between Anglos and Asians tend to be peaceful a lot more than what I see between Anglos and Hispanics in the USA.

Australia like Canada has a zero tolerance illegal immigration policy, the reason being is that both countries have generous social welfare programs, and if illegals came in both countries would be bankrupted in weeks maybe days.

Just look at this, in California, the most liberal American state:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCL2IqgjSc

Clandestine782

03-18-10, 16:25

Ok, the subject was China.

1. That which is not Chinese is "foreign" (with respect to this discussion).
2. Volkswagen is a German company.
3. Volkswagen is not Chinese.
4. Therefore, Volkswagen is foreign with respect to China.

If you knew the mechanics of exchange rates, you might know that:

1. China spends a LOT more money propping up the US dollar than it is worth to do it (by dint of the fact that they hold on to so many of them and that sterilization costs are not free/ cheap.) Look it up.
2. The US has had a policy of benign neglect since the early 70s (i.e., there is no target on the exchange rate). There is a very good reason for this. Look it up.
3. The exchange rate has been through some huge changes, and the US did not fall into the sea (and if the US currency was going to collapse, it should have happened in the 70s during "The Great Inflation.")

I don't care for Paul Krugman, but he is right at least some of the time. His take on the Chinese currency issue.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/15/opinion/15krugman.html?scp=3&sq=paul%20krugman&st=cse

4. Japan did not demolish the US auto industry. It demolished itself. (Labor unions too strong.) Japanese cars are made right in the US-- below the Mason Dixon line where labor unions can't get out of pocket.
5. No nation was ever ruined by trade. If you read something with some analytical gravitas (I can see that you haven't), you might find out: Chinese people send goods to the US, they get dollars in return, they turn around and buy Treasury bills in exchange with the dollars, then they pay the costs of sterilization in order to keep their currency artificially low. In the meantime the accumulate more dollars that are going to make them take a bigger hit on revaluation. (The PRC government has gotten defiant over US prodding on the exchange rate. Pick up the WSJ.) Rest assured that the linked exchange rate will fail someday, because (other than currency boards) they ALL fail over the long run. (Look it up. That's the reason that most countries just let their exchange rates float.) The PRC is just using a stopgap measure to delay the inevitable.

6. It doesn't take illegals to bankrupt a public benefit system. Ever heard of a place called "Greece"?

http://article.nationalreview.com/428116/updating-the-price-tag/deroy-murdock

Something like 4% of the country is illegal (US). If every single dollar used on illegal immigrants was saved, it wouldn't be enough to finance these programs that no one knows how to pay for. Not even 1/10th as much as necessary.

Australiasucks

03-18-10, 18:11

Opebo

03-18-10, 19:52

I find it a never ending source of interest how much right-wing economic opinion is posted in this thread! You gentlemen may question your servitude to the little lady, but never your real masters.

Australiasucks

03-18-10, 21:45

I am not right wing, I even have Muslim friends. Right wing people in most Western countries love the USA. Mike from New York says you can get in trouble with the police simply for looking at a female the wrong way. Fuck that. If that was the case in Australia, half of the male population would be in prison.

Nyc Expat

03-18-10, 23:12

I am not right wing, etc., etc.
You have enormous negativity against the U.S.A. in many of your recent postings containing misinformation that is completely uncalled for. Some members recently suggested to stay on topic. You continue to bash America. The country is not perfect. Nowhere is. I’d love to write a 5000 word essay here in reply but this is not the venue.

BTW, Australia is a closed continent regarding immigration. When I say closed, I mean there are many requirements that need to be fulfilled before residency is approved. Such was not the case in Europe and America.

Stay on topic for constructive criticism, postings and intelligent replies concerning women. That's not too much to request.

DJ FourMoney

03-18-10, 23:38

Just about every modern technological advances were created by an American. Limited vision. I think not. What country surpasses the USA. NONE

As I stated the ones who CAN'T get an AW. Those actors CAN get AW they just so happen to have married foreign women. Big difference.

If the guys on here were saying. Dam I banged so many AW. Just for a change of pace I tried a Brazilian and she treated me so good so I married her. That would be one thing.

But they are saying AW are no good, they give me a hard time, just want to take my money, every time I try they turn me down. I have to jump thru hoops. Woman from other countries in the world are better.

Well those are the guys I'm talking about.

You didn't read that correctly. I never said we don't educate the world's children, I didn't say we didn't invent some of the greatest advancements of the last 100 years and I didn't say we don't have some very smart people in Government, Private Sector, at Universities and Colleges around the country.

What I am saying we have a country that agrees with revisionist, people that want to re-write history and sweep it under the rug. This country was largely founded on lies, colonialism, racism and ignorance, a legacy that dogs us today and stunts social/cultural development.

If we were a great country still, C.R.E.A.M wouldn't be the mantra most Americans adhere too.

Australiasucks

03-19-10, 00:04

You have enormous negativity against the U.S.A. in many of your recent postings containing misinformation that is completely uncalled for. Some members recently suggested to stay on topic. You continue to bash America. The country is not perfect. Nowhere is. I’d love to write a 5000 word essay here in reply but this is not the venue.

BTW, Australia is a closed continent regarding immigration. When I say closed, I mean there are many requirements that need to be fulfilled before residency is approved. Such was not the case in Europe and America.

Stay on topic for constructive criticism, postings and intelligent replies concerning women. That's not too much to request.

Australia is a far more immigration friendly country than the USA or any EU country. I have met quite a few people who were kicked out of the US/Canada or could not integrate there but love Oz. You said it yourself that Denmark is closed to non EEC people. Australia takes people from all over the world, and its known fact that many immigrants in Australia envisioned going to America or Canada or even Europe. My own family was asked to fuck off by your great American government and we went down under instead. My grandparents were Jews fleeing Nazi Germany. Australia is a great place to live and you are welcome here, see it for yourself, many Europeans are impressed with our country, but its no secret that among EU countries British and Irish citizens have a much easier time getting to Oz. We don't want continental Nazis. Asians are here in large numbers, they would never get into Europe, me and friend saw news reel about the Paris riots, he is Arab and realizes although there are some racial tensions in Australia its nothing like Europe with its fascist history and tendencies.

Europe is okay for a visit, just would not live there. Also the way Muslims are treated in Europe reminds me of the way Jews were treated. Not all the Muslims there are extremists, they are a small percent. Even not all immigrants are Muslim. In Spain, many South Americans live there but are often treated worse than dirt by the Spaniards. Australia has its share of racial issues but runs better than almost any country I have visited, and I have been to many. America voted for Obama but only a few years ago many African Americans were left to die in New Orleans so what does that tell me?

I actually think the US is okay its just that many Americans get on their high horses too often.

Now back to topic lets study why American and Western women plain suck. I was actually moving back on topic and Mr Clan just sidetracked me again. I am stopping all the US bashing now and only going to post such things on the politics thread.

Nyc Expat

03-19-10, 01:17

Australia is a far more immigration friendly country than the USA or any EU country.

Also the way Muslims are treated in Europe reminds me of the way Jews were treated. Not all the Muslims there are extremists, etc.

Just two important replies. Europe was immigrant friendly. Australian authorities today require immigrants to prove employment, a home and English language capability before granting a residency permit. Not the case in Europe or anywhere else.

Secondly, Jews in 1930’s Europe did not want to change the continent expecting others to conform to their religious beliefs. Many 1985-2010 muslims now in Europe demand and expect white society to completely conform to their ancient, barbaric, religious, fanatic beliefs. This is fact. You and other members are invited to re-read my post on this thread dated 3-09-10 #8538, first two paragraphs.

Now Muslims worldwide are again calling for the death of a newspaper cartoonist in Sweden and an official, governmental apology in Denmark because of drawings of mohammed published in local newspapers.

Australiasucks

03-19-10, 03:45

Most of my experience with European Muslims have been with Turks in Germany and in the Netherlands, for the most part they are analogous to Mexicans in the US, do mostly menial jobs. I just did not find them threatening in any way. The Maghrebi in France are another issue, the Pakistanis in the UK are horrors. The plain truth is that Europeans have put all people of color in the same boat. Turks are treated like DIRT in Germany, even though they mostly do shit jobs that most Germans will not. There is one German Jewish politician who often likes to compare the situation of Turks to Jews, because they are the most convenient targets of racism. I even was waiting in a train station and saw a Turk and an East Asian man sitting together and some German told them to go back to where they came from and then starting yelling "Scheisse Auslander".

France right now has a KKK like environment, actually for the last few years. Recall LePen? Germany's Zu Guttenberg is an eerry reminder of a mustached Austrian. Here is a photo:
http://www.bild.de/BILD/politik/2009/11/03/afghanistan/verteidigungsminister-zu-guttenberg-13887206-mfbq,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,width=465.jpg

European xenophobia is very real, have you been to Spain? The Spanish treat South Americans like subhumans, most South Americans are Catholic and speak Spanish but their darker skin complexions make them targets of racism in Spain.

Australia is much more immigrant friendly than most countries, the EU is a shut door, case closed. I admitted Australia has racism but significant progress has been made unlike Europe and even the US where racial tension still persists..even under Obama.

Australia got a lot of bad press because of Indian students getting bashed, but many Indians flee other countries to live in Australia. There is also a massive Sri Lankan community not far from me as well. The authorities began releasing the IDs of the assailants and many turned out to be Lebanese and Somali Muslims. I have gotten into brawls with Lebanese Muslims myself. Australia basically had an open door policy towards them and they repaid Australia by knocking Oz down, it resulted in Cronulla, but that was tiny compared to what happened outside Paris a few years back.

You have to admit that Russia is still pretty bad, I went there a while ago, put on a yarmulke, and nearly got my ass kicked.

In the US, because of wide scale illegal immigration, many people scapegoat Hispanics. I just put a link to a site showing a very ugly brawl in California.

Realistically no place on Earth is perfect.

But with regards to Europe, three forces are certain to affect Europe, Fascism, Islam, and Russia.

But anyway lets get back to why American/Western women are shit.

Calculator

03-19-10, 04:13

Jon32

03-19-10, 13:58

But anyway lets get back to why American/Western women are shit.

I second that.

Australiasucks

03-19-10, 16:17

The beginning of the end of the the Western/American female as the ideal of beauty. A very long long time ago, the American female was the alpha ideal of femininity. Remember Marylin Monroe? Then came the counter culture of the 60s and women's liberation which forever changed the way women in the West saw each other. People became a lot more sexually liberated, and women themselves began to become more independent from their males partners. Granted, pre-marital sex happened often well before, but it was mostly behind closed doors. I think this will be seen as the turning point. It used to be that the man was the head of the house, the women took care of the household, many countries still hold onto this ideal. You see it in Asia, in Latin America, and even to a lesser degree in EE/Russia. Most women today now live in an economically level playing field. I have two sons, and I know for a fact they have it a lot worse than I did as a young man. Are the sexes really equal? I have a hard time believing it, if I said this in public, I would be lynched today, a long time ago even in our liberal English speaking societies people would assume that was as common sense as the sky is blue.

Even traveling in Asia, the popular culture sees a Western looking white female as the ideal of beauty. I travel to Asia quite a bit, and many locals think because I live in Australia, I have blonde beauties that cater to my every carnal desire, they assume the same for Americans and Europeans. In Japan, a white prostitute can easily become a multimillionaire because deep down many men in Japan have a fetish for white females. Believe me I have heard it all, the average girl I meet in Australia who has been there is often treated to expensive gifts, free housing, etc by their Japanese boyfriends. But they are seeing this from a distance in their own lands, where they assume the female is subservient to the male. This ideal is also why many Asian men do not have an issue with a foreigner dating their women, they even think its odd. Its only when these same men go to the West and see the reality, they discover that the ideal and reality are two very different things.

Its not only Asian men, I have seen it with Arabs and people of African origin. I work out with an African American from the US, and he such a clear fetish for blonde girls. White males tend to go towards Asians because they feel they will get better treatment, and have a more "traditional" experience. I usually avoid white females for this reason, and go to Asians, more pleasure and less headache. I like European females, but I think it was conditioning from my youth. I thought women like Monroe were the ideal.

Clandestine782

03-19-10, 17:56

The US in the the TOILET. I actually spent several years on the West Coast and during the 1990s the economy was great but even smart people knew it was a facade. I would not want to be there now, I have a very long list of friends who have told me about their current troubles and Australia is not suffering at all, the only Western country that outright avoided a recession. Then Bush came, 9-11 happened, US foreign policy became unsustainable because it is just too aggressive. That is why Obama showed up and in many ways he is weakening US foreign policy to accommodate a more multipolar world.

If America is so super why are you in China? It is extremely hard for Americans to accept this new reality. The British were going through the same thing after World War 2. There is Asian vagina here, full stop. There is not enough of it in the United States to keep me there. Also, I can make a living working 20 hours per week and have enough left over to save money and enjoy a nice piano and exercise 7 days per week. When I worked in the States, I made more money (in absolute dollars) but did not have access to Asian women (both freebie and P4P).

Illegals might be 4 percent but Spanish speakers are nearly 40 million, nothing wrong with that but you need one language for a society to function. Who knows maybe Europe could teach us a lesson on languages. So Spanish will eventually be the lingua franca of the USA, its only a question of when and not if.I can't talk about this anymore. This is getting boring. 13% of the US population is Hispanic, and that does not necessarily mean that they are native speakers of Spanish. If you want to go to any university in the States, it is all done in English (and remember that the university degree is the new high school diploma). Spanish speakers have the highest dropout rate in the whole country-- and that's high school, NOT university.

Do you know what is a lingua franca? Might I politely suggest that you look it up in the dictionary and then edit your post? Hint: Yiddish was the lingua franca among diaspora Jews, but it is not (so far as I know) an official language anywhere in the world. And come to all that, Spanish would have to go even further in the United States than English to become an official language (because English IS NOT the official language). Some things I have read (I will not include any links because you won't bother to read them as it appears that accurate information is not a precursor to your posts) have actually suggested that the monolingualization of the States (I know it's not a verb, but bear with me) is happening even faster now than before. (I was just reading something about it in the insufferable New York Times yesterday.)

But honestly, I pose you the question again: I don't see any single person from America spending nearly as much effort bashing Australia as you have bashing America. And there are over 10x more of us than you. We don't spend any time thinking about you. Why don't you return the favor and find a hobby?

I attest to the fact that America is just fine for men who have a decent income and don't live at home. I have a couple of relatives who have stomachs for black women (I don't) and each of them has 2 women and 3 kids with each woman (that is for a total of 6 children between two outside women). And these guys didn't even finish high school. It's just that they have game. If you don't (and most guys can't be alpha males because exceptional is some distance above the average BY DEFINITION), then there is no reason to be bitter and keep screeching like a man without Viagara. Just move on and enjoy what you can get where you can get it.

Clandestine782

03-19-10, 18:14

You didn't read that correctly. I never said we don't educate the world's children, I didn't say we didn't invent some of the greatest advancements of the last 100 years and I didn't say we don't have some very smart people in Government, Private Sector, at Universities and Colleges around the country.

What I am saying we have a country that agrees with revisionist, people that want to re-write history and sweep it under the rug. This country was largely founded on lies, colonialism, racism and ignorance, a legacy that dogs us today and stunts social/cultural development.

If we were a great country still, C.R.E.A.M wouldn't be the mantra most Americans adhere too.Sorry, but you need to do some reading (I know that is a bit much to ask.) C.R.E.A.M. is the mantra EVERYWHERE. Can you name me any single country in which men who are nearing 40 and live at home can have spare pussy falling out of their pockets?

I also disagree with "smart people in the government." Not too long ago I read a great book about the reason that such idiots get into government is because idiots are allowed to vote. (The author was right.) I wish there was some requirement to make it such that only people who could pass a Civics/ Basic Economics test or have an IQ above 110 could vote. That could save A LOT of trouble. Now that I think about it: The average IQ in China is thought to be 103, and the Chinese common people are not allowed to vote. The PRC might just have the right idea.

"......stunts social and cultural development." I have no idea on Earth what that could mean. Could you clarify? And while you are at it:

1. If development is stunted, then it must be some slower rate. Can you give me a measurement of the difference? What units are you using? What is the ideal rate?

2. Ok, so the country started off as a colony. So did Canada. And Australia. And Brazil. And Portugal. And Venezuela. And.........(oh, well, you get the idea--I hope). So what is your point? The US has not been a colony for over 225 years. So now what? Brazil has been an independent country for even less time. So now what?

3. It was founded on ignorance. Um, ok. I can't imagine what you could mean. I mean, if it was known, I bet that the Framers/ Founders had pretty decent IQs. And they have done some good work considering that the country is stable in spite of the fact that (a) we have so many people there with low IQs and; (b) that we have imported people with even lower IQs to populate the country (the lower end people from Europe and Africa). By rights, if development/ income were a function of aggregate IQ, then the US would be somewhere below China and somewhere above Africa (not saying much). But the Framers put a government in place --that is still in place longer than almost every dynasty in China since the First Emperor. I would say that the Framers accomplished something pretty decent. After all, if you had such a superior plan, then why not just go and get yourself elected to some office? (After all, even Roland Burris is sitting in the US Senate.)

4. "Revisionist?" Do you want to look that one up and get back to me? Even if you do look it up, what benefit can be gained from dredging up history over and over and over again? You could have any number of cases. People who have a strong sense of history and learn absolutely nothing from it (China), or people who have very little and yet do very well with it (Singapore-- which is the most successful majority Chinese society that has ever existed, but with only 40 some odd years of history). The former point can't be overstated enough. I have read so many books on Chinese history and am only a small fraction of the way through it (a deeper understanding would require a whole degree plus 75 books, or roughly 1 book per 2 emperors), but even with the bits that I have studied the most (the first and last dynasties), people seem to have learned almost nothing from this great and rich history.

Blaked

03-19-10, 18:20

France right now has a KKK like environment, actually for the last few years. Recall LePen? Germany's Zu Guttenberg is an eerry reminder of a mustached Austrian. Here is a photo:
http://www.bild.de/BILD/politik/2009/11/03/afghanistan/verteidigungsminister-zu-guttenberg-13887206-mfbq,templateId=renderScaled,property=Bild,width=465.jpg

European xenophobia is very real, have you been to Spain? The Spanish treat South Americans like subhumans, most South Americans are Catholic and speak Spanish but their darker skin complexions make them targets of racism in Spain.

And why shouldn't they? Europe has never been a 'country of immigrants' like the US, Canada or Australia. We accept that racism is a part of Japanese culture and keeps it from being tainted by, let's say, migration from the Philippines or China. I'm happy with Europe being shut to immigration from the poor, dark-skinned 3rd world. Ukrainians make prettier dishwashers anyway. Modern antipathy towards racism is function of the outgrowth of WWII propaganda - there's nothing about being proud of one's race that's much better or worse than straight nationalism. Nobody minds a few Indian or Mexican restaurants, but we don't want to be over-run either.

Back to American women sucking. What is with tramp-stamps? I don't understand women who get tattoos and then tell you they aren't sluts. I mean, Jesus - why get a big ugly tattoo if you're not a god-damned ****? Everyone will assume you're a ****. When the tattoo craze is dead and tattoos are seen as dated, nothing will be a clearer expiration date than a tramp-stamp, because everyone who has one will be 40+. Imagine that. Imagine some kid whispering in 40 years "dad, was grandma a ****?" "no, son!" "Then why does she have that big ugly spider over her ass?" Is America unique in women trying to look UN-sexy?

Australiasucks

03-20-10, 00:04

There is Asian vagina here, full stop. There is not enough of it in the United States to keep me there. Also, I can make a living working 20 hours per week and have enough left over to save money and enjoy a nice piano and exercise 7 days per week. When I worked in the States, I made more money (in absolute dollars) but did not have access to Asian women (both freebie and P4P).

I can't talk about this anymore. This is getting boring. 13% of the US population is Hispanic, and that does not necessarily mean that they are native speakers of Spanish. If you want to go to any university in the States, it is all done in English (and remember that the university degree is the new high school diploma). Spanish speakers have the highest dropout rate in the whole country-- and that's high school, NOT university.

Do you know what is a lingua franca? Might I politely suggest that you look it up in the dictionary and then edit your post? Hint: Yiddish was the lingua franca among diaspora Jews, but it is not (so far as I know) an official language anywhere in the world. And come to all that, Spanish would have to go even further in the United States than English to become an official language (because English IS NOT the official language). Some things I have read (I will not include any links because you won't bother to read them as it appears that accurate information is not a precursor to your posts) have actually suggested that the monolingualization of the States (I know it's not a verb, but bear with me) is happening even faster now than before. (I was just reading something about it in the insufferable New York Times yesterday.)

But honestly, I pose you the question again: I don't see any single person from America spending nearly as much effort bashing Australia as you have bashing America. And there are over 10x more of us than you. We don't spend any time thinking about you. Why don't you return the favor and find a hobby?

I attest to the fact that America is just fine for men who have a decent income and don't live at home. I have a couple of relatives who have stomachs for black women (I don't) and each of them has 2 women and 3 kids with each woman (that is for a total of 6 children between two outside women). And these guys didn't even finish high school. It's just that they have game. If you don't (and most guys can't be alpha males because exceptional is some distance above the average BY DEFINITION), then there is no reason to be bitter and keep screeching like a man without Viagara. Just move on and enjoy what you can get where you can get it.

Hey dimwit get the fuck out of the politics, I did my part, get back to harping about American women, you are full of shit, talking up America while not living there and being in China, being a white guy in over there must be fun...right???

US women suck, they are even worse than Aussie women, Aussie women will fuck you for the first 30 days literally and then figuratively for the rest of your life. The last time an American woman turned me on was in the 1970s, they have all went downhill since then, especially over the last 20 years. Hilary C is the archetype American female not Brooke Shields.

A lot of American blokes wind up falling in love with Aussie girls, largely because they are initially warm hearted and open but then sour quickly. Asians and EE types tend to be more consistent.

I like Dom Perignon, not Budweiser, that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you Yanks drink its even worse than our [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).

Money is a motivating factor world wide but American women tend to be extremely explicit and up front about it, often in their personals they often ask about income levels and what you do for a living. Australians tend to be a bit more egalitarian, actually a lot more. A black Muslim who happens to be one of my best friends and grew up in Los Angeles sees Australia as his Shangrila.

American women tend to be a lot more financially independent than women in most places, even in Europe where the man is still the head of the house in many countries. Some femnazi American I ran into in Germany said Deutschland is 30 years behind on woman's issues compared to North America, sounds good to me, lol. It was absolutely hilarious to see German fraueleins sell themselves in front of windows like pieces of steak, I would never see that in an English speaking country.

Australia has legal prostitution and brothels are common, but the women treat you like dirt, you have to have your penis examined before having sex, and if you want to a Caucasian girl, expect to pay up.

DJ FourMoney

03-20-10, 00:50

Sorry, but you need to do some reading (I know that is a bit much to ask.) C.R.E.A.M. is the mantra EVERYWHERE. Can you name me any single country in which men who are nearing 40 and live at home can have spare pussy falling out of their pockets?

I also disagree with "smart people in the government." Not too long ago I read a great book about the reason that such idiots get into government is because idiots are allowed to vote. (The author was right.) I wish there was some requirement to make it such that only people who could pass a Civics/ Basic Economics test or have an IQ above 110 could vote. That could save A LOT of trouble. Now that I think about it: The average IQ in China is thought to be 103, and the Chinese common people are not allowed to vote. The PRC might just have the right idea.

"......stunts social and cultural development." I have no idea on Earth what that could mean. Could you clarify? And while you are at it:

1. If development is stunted, then it must be some slower rate. Can you give me a measurement of the difference? What units are you using? What is the ideal rate?

2. Ok, so the country started off as a colony. So did Canada. And Australia. And Brazil. And Portugal. And Venezuela. And.........(oh, well, you get the idea--I hope). So what is your point? The US has not been a colony for over 225 years. So now what? Brazil has been an independent country for even less time. So now what?

3. It was founded on ignorance. Um, ok. I can't imagine what you could mean. I mean, if it was known, I bet that the Framers/ Founders had pretty decent IQs. And they have done some good work considering that the country is stable in spite of the fact that (a) we have so many people there with low IQs and; (b) that we have imported people with even lower IQs to populate the country (the lower end people from Europe and Africa). By rights, if development/ income were a function of aggregate IQ, then the US would be somewhere below China and somewhere above Africa (not saying much). But the Framers put a government in place --that is still in place longer than almost every dynasty in China since the First Emperor. I would say that the Framers accomplished something pretty decent. After all, if you had such a superior plan, then why not just go and get yourself elected to some office? (After all, even Roland Burris is sitting in the US Senate.)

4. "Revisionist?" Do you want to look that one up and get back to me? Even if you do look it up, what benefit can be gained from dredging up history over and over and over again? You could have any number of cases. People who have a strong sense of history and learn absolutely nothing from it (China), or people who have very little and yet do very well with it (Singapore-- which is the most successful majority Chinese society that has ever existed, but with only 40 some odd years of history). The former point can't be overstated enough. I have read so many books on Chinese history and am only a small fraction of the way through it (a deeper understanding would require a whole degree plus 75 books, or roughly 1 book per 2 emperors), but even with the bits that I have studied the most (the first and last dynasties), people seem to have learned almost nothing from this great and rich history.

I always get a kick out of your replies, I do read quite a bit.

Nyc Expat

03-20-10, 02:35

Back to American women sucking. What is with tramp-stamps? I don't understand women who get tattoos and then tell you they aren't sluts. I mean, Jesus - why get a big ugly tattoo if you're not a god-damned ****? Everyone will assume you're a ****. When the tattoo craze is dead and tattoos are seen as dated, nothing will be a clearer expiration date than a tramp-stamp, because everyone who has one will be 40+. Imagine that. Imagine some kid whispering in 40 years "dad, was grandma a ****?" "no, son!" "Then why does she have that big ugly spider over her ass?" Is America unique in women trying to look UN-sexy?

While we fantasize about t****s with stamps performance in bed, I want to know why more men for over 10-15 yrs. now are wearing ear rings. This is a major point of discussion as mentioned earlier AW expect to rule in general and rule their husbands and families.

Australiasucks

03-20-10, 02:57

Singapore is not really Chinese, its more of a US/British outpost in SE Asia, though for not much longer as China begins to stretch out around the Pacific rim. It was founded by the British, the original inhabitants were Malays. You have proven yourself an ignorant fuckwit. America became the dominant superpower from 1945 onward but competed with the USSR up until 1989, right now, the world is becoming more multipolar. American democracy has died, it won't last another decade at best. If that is a democracy you are making me laugh my ass off, the US has the highest prison incarceration rate of any country in the world, higher than Russia, China, or Iran.

Deal Seeker

03-20-10, 03:37

Has anyone viewed "Thugtician" from youtube. His perspective is mostly from a UK based black man (I think), but his thoughts resonate with me about American women. DJ4Money, have you heard some of his stuff?

Warbucks

03-20-10, 04:19

Hey dimwit get the fuck out of the politics, I did my part, get back to harping about American women, you are full of shit, talking up America while not living there and being in China, being a white guy in over there must be fun...right??? This guy is only white in mind and spirit.
Nope. I'm a black man who is disgusted with the performance of black people just about EVERYWHERE.

I'm thinking about converting to Judaism to change my racial identity and be around higher IQ people.

You can technically call yourself a Jew if you pass the examination of a Beit Din and get a certificate of conversion.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=754796&postcount=434

ThatGuy865

03-20-10, 04:31

Hilary see is the archetype American female not Brooke Shields.No Angelina Jolie is. I haven't seen an aussie woman who could come close to her.

A lot of American blokes wind up falling in love with Aussie girls, largely because they are initially warm hearted and open but then sour quickly. Asians and EE types tend to be more consistent.You talk like you know every American in Australia and how they feel about AW and Aussie women. Damn for someone who thinks america sucks you sure do hang around a lot of americans. I guess its the government. But the people are the best. Right

American women tend to be a lot more financially independent than women in most places,Thats the bottom line. AW are not dependent on a man to support them. Also the ease of getting of getting a Divorce in America. Also our society doesn't frown on a woman being independent, as others do. All this gives an AW the ability to pick and choose only men they desire to be with. And not a NEED to stay with.

Hung Man 1808

03-20-10, 07:52

A troll me thinks. The posters in the Germany forum are onto him. One posting he's not into asians, then later on he is. Argument for arguments sake. I had a girlfriend like that Australiasucks - it gets tiresome quick.

Back to topic, I am getting the feeling that for the younger folk (teens to early 20s) the fun has loosened up a bit in comparison to the early Gen Y/ Gen X generation. I don't think they are taking the 'sex can kill you' mantra seriously anymore.

Still it doesn't sound as much fun as the late 60s/70s seemed to have been.
Can anyone confirm this was a great era (before political correctness and supporting laws kicked in).

The good news is that the 70s attitude still seems to exist elsewhere in the world.

Australiasucks

03-20-10, 13:01

How is hat hanging in Jakarta hung???

Clandestine782

03-20-10, 15:01

Clandestine782

03-20-10, 15:07

I always get a kick out of your replies, I do read quite a bit.
1. You could have fooled me;
2. Reading USA Today once a month does not count as a badge of having serious analytical gravitas. Nor Howard Zinn for that matter.
3. You didn't answer any of the questions that I posted. They were very simple and direct and directly relevant to what you had posted.
4. Can you tell me what is the last serious book/ periodical you have read? I mean, as in a non-fiction book (a); over 700 words (b); and with at least 3 graphs in the whole text (c)?

The things that you are talking about would not even be things that you felt the need to post about if you read even one basic book about Economics. You could read two books by Thomas Sowell (Basic Economics/ Applied Economics), and he deliberately writes with no graphs his books. They would be so helpful.

Westy

03-20-10, 16:30

Thats the bottom line. AW are not dependent on a man to support them. Also the ease of getting of getting a Divorce in America. Also our society doesn't frown on a woman being independent, as others do. All this gives an AW the ability to pick and choose only men they desire to be with. And not a NEED to stay with.I believe those are all "sub-totals" that add up around the bottom line. It's not just about AW being independent, and not needing financial support from a man (though many wouldn't be averse to a "sugar daddy"; he just needs more than seven figures' worth of "sugar" to qualify). It's my opinion that American women are in all-out competition with men, for the better jobs, the higher salaries, greater status, the whole game of "success American style. "

AW fought long and hard for the government to grant enforcible rights for them to play at the top of this game. I don't begrudge them the rights. I don't begrudge anyone the right to compete fairly for the best jobs, and "may the best person win. " But after they won, they didn't stop fighting; they continued to display, and act on, the belief and assumption that "men are the enemy." They continued to "March with the feminazis, " and to hold and display contempt for the men around them (sort of like "Yeah, but would you want your sister to marry one? ")

What hurts the AM is that their contempt, matched with the sharp-toothed laws and customs of "political correctness" as practiced in the USA, make it risky to even show interest in an AW. They are quick to assume offense, so quick that an innocent compliment gets reclassified as "sexual harassment" between the water cooler and the Human Resources office. Who loses every which way? The American man.

The career, the position of power, the pursuit of status and "success" are more important to these women than love, marriage, and children. Thus, their NOW is more important than the continuation of the species. They'd rather fight than love, and the courts and the law are on their side. "They are strong, they are invincible, " but they ain't going to reproduce!

I admit, I've over-simplified this picture. But, as I'm at an age where I'd be likely to die before any children sired now would graduate from college, I'm out of the gene-pool anyways. All I want is some fun, and that makes me a "disgusting dirty old man" to those Modern American Women (which label I've borne since my thirties; so what's new?)

Australiasucks

03-20-10, 19:20

Clan follows Thomas Sowell, now that explains everything.

ThatGuy865

03-20-10, 20:41

What hurts the AM is that their contempt, matched with the sharp-toothed laws and customs of "political correctness" as practiced in the USA, make it risky to even show interest in an AW. They are quick to assume offense, so quick that an innocent compliment gets reclassified as "sexual harassment" between the water cooler and the Human Resources office. Who loses every which way? The American man.First off. So you can't hit on a woman at work. Whippty doo. So what. As I see it thats a good thing. Keep the work place professional.

That still has no bearing on approaching a women in public. You can say what ever you want. There is no political correctness law in a bar, club, park or whereever else you might meet a woman. So polictical correctness is more of an excuses why an AM can't approach an AW.

AW earn good money so they do not financial need a man. Our society does not look down at a successful woman who is not married, Also our society expects our parents to plan for their retirement not to depend on their children to provide for them.

A lot of countries the custom is the kids are suppose to take care of the parents. So there is more pressure on a woman to get married by the parents. Often the parents are not thinking about the happiness of the daughter but of their own needs. Even if it isn't the parents, the daughter will feel the obligation and guilt that will make them stay in marriages for the sake of the parents.

So while you may find women in other countries willing to be more traditional than AW. That also comes with the price of interference and the dependency of her family. Which is something an AM does not have to deal with to the degree that one would who was married to a lot of women from other countries.

Goga Fung

03-21-10, 07:17

AW earn good money so they do not financial need a man. Our society does not look down at a successful woman who is not married, Also our society expects our parents to plan for their retirement not to depend on their children to provide for them.

A lot of countries the custom is the kids are suppose to take care of the parents. So there is more pressure on a woman to get married by the parents. Often the parents are not thinking about the happiness of the daughter but of their own needs. Even if it isn't the parents, the daughter will feel the obligation and guilt that will make them stay in marriages for the sake of the parents.So because AW(including psychotic biyotches, single 45 year old airheads, etc.) think they are the shit now, are they happier than women in other countries?

Not really, they are actually unhappy compared to many others. You are talking from a feminazy point of view. But this is what in reality:

http://www.Nber.org/papers/w14969:

"By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging. One with higher subjective well-being for men. "

http://theweek.com/article/index/96917/Women_feminism_and_happiness:

"American women are wealthier, healthier, and better educated than they were 30 years ago, " said Ross Douthat in The New York Times, but they're also more unhappy.

http://www.Doublex.com/section/life/real-reason-american-women-are-so-unhappy:

"The international picture helps explain why American women in particular have wound up on a downward emotional trajectory. While women in rich countries around the world may be becoming generally sadder (Buckingham cites a British study as well as two international studies that point in this direction), American women are still probably the gloomiest. Only 3 percent of people in Japan experience major depression in their lifetime, for instance, compared with about 17 percent of Americans, according to the most recent cross-national comparison of depression rates, conducted by psychiatrist Myrna Weissman in 1996.

So why are American women so particularly blue? For women, two of the most potentially life- (and mood-) altering factors are family size and work hours. American women have notable distinctions on both fronts. First, we have more babies than women in most any other developed country. While an American woman still typically has around 2. 1 children over her lifetime, in other rich countries, family size has dropped significantly as women have gained access to jobs and education. More than 90 nations throughout Europe and Asia now have fertility rates well below ours. Second, even while we've continued to raise sizable families, American women have achieved the very highest rate of full-time employment in the world, with 75 percent of employed women working full-time."

Vaquero

03-21-10, 08:06

Westy

03-21-10, 12:26

First off. So you can't hit on a woman at work. Whippty doo. So what. As I see it thats a good thing. Keep the work place professional.

That still has no bearing on approaching a women in public. You can say what ever you want. There is no political correctness law in a bar, club, park or whereever else you might meet a woman.Problem is, at least in my town, the AWs take that "professional" attitude home with them. (That attitude of "Who the hell are you looking at, creep? ") The "workplace" laws may not apply to the clientele at Rock Bottom Brewpub or the other "meet markets" around here, but the feminazi attitude of contempt and hyper-defensive reaction is still evident and pre-eminent during Happy Hour.

Maybe I have a lower tolerance for that stuff than you. If you're doing better, congratulations; enjoy it while it lasts.

Nyc Expat

03-21-10, 17:12

Wow, just back from a date a few hours ago. And then drinks in my neighborhood.

What I notice again:

American women love to drive expensive cars. Granted, they may not be able to afford them or other luxury items, but their financial planning consists of pure abandon, always knowing some dude will pick up the tab.

I went out with a chunky girl, part Italian. Her kid was with the dad for the weekend. Thought I might get in her pants, but she was hesitant. May get there eventually.

Was I over eager grazing her tits with my hands? Hell, she's 40, better not take this cracka for granted. But plenty of shit eaters willing to do whatever.

Dinner and drinks are more expensive than banging your average Chinese massagey girl.

Where's my foot massage? Why i no eat box tonight?

AW, chunky, 40 yrs. old and just as expensive dining as an Asian or S. AW. I'd think she was the aggressor. I'd rather spend the airfare, hotel and meals and get a great vacation with knockout young women than the time on what you describe as a date. Sorry, but AW control AM if they can get away with it. You could have gotten an inhouse escort/massage at home for less cash (unless you ate at a corporate chain restaurant LOL) if sex was your ultimate goal. Life is too short wasting time.

Vaquero

03-21-10, 19:40

But I also desire companionship, someday. And lately I just miss eating pussy, which I've done maybe a year ago and actually enjoyed three years ago (never with a working girl). I think this girl would have a tasty box, just guessing.

I know there are some good American women. What really strikes me with some is no forethought in finance. I've been poor, and I live well within my means. But I've met some women here who hire out the cooking and cleaning and fill their nest with all sorts of shiny things and then complain about being broke.

In a caloric sense, I also see some who barely exercise and then drink and eat themselves to excess and then can't understand why they have fat upper pussy area, AKA fupa.

Mostly, what strikes me is so many lack passion for anything but shopping.

And I know this isn't limited to American women. Mexican friends say it's the same in their country. It's just a matter of scale that makes it more affordable there.

Chocha Monger

03-21-10, 20:53

I believe those are all "sub-totals" that add up around the bottom line. It's not just about AW being independent, and not needing financial support from a man (though many wouldn't be averse to a "sugar daddy"; he just needs more than seven figures' worth of "sugar" to qualify). It's my opinion that American women are in all-out competition with men, for the better jobs, the higher salaries, greater status, the whole game of "success American style. "

AW fought long and hard for the government to grant enforcible rights for them to play at the top of this game. I don't begrudge them the rights. I don't begrudge anyone the right to compete fairly for the best jobs, and "may the best person win. " But after they won, they didn't stop fighting; they continued to display, and act on, the belief and assumption that "men are the enemy." They continued to "March with the feminazis, " and to hold and display contempt for the men around them (sort of like "Yeah, but would you want your sister to marry one? ")

What hurts the AM is that their contempt, matched with the sharp-toothed laws and customs of "political correctness" as practiced in the USA, make it risky to even show interest in an AW. They are quick to assume offense, so quick that an innocent compliment gets reclassified as "sexual harassment" between the water cooler and the Human Resources office. Who loses every which way? The American man.

The career, the position of power, the pursuit of status and "success" are more important to these women than love, marriage, and children. Thus, their NOW is more important than the continuation of the species. They'd rather fight than love, and the courts and the law are on their side. "They are strong, they are invincible, " but they ain't going to reproduce!

I admit, I've over-simplified this picture. But, as I'm at an age where I'd be likely to die before any children sired now would graduate from college, I'm out of the gene-pool anyways. All I want is some fun, and that makes me a "disgusting dirty old man" to those Modern American Women (which label I've borne since my thirties; so what's new?)
Westy:
You made some wonderful points, the most poignant being that American women did not stop upon achieving equality with men but continued beyond that point. Now if one side goes beyond being equal then that is not equality by definition but rather a new status quo. Just as Hitler had convinced Neville Chamberlain that he had no greater ambitions beyond occupation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia, so American women had convinced their men that they sought nothing more than economic and social parity. American men bought into the equality deal. Women entered the workforce, politics and many other areas of American society previously considered the domain of men. However, after being given access these women began to use their gender in combination with laws meant to protect them from discrimination in the workplace to eliminate the males who they could not compete with on an equal footing. Women now had jobs and advanced degrees but they were still demanding and receiving preferential treatment in divorce courts. Alimony, child support and custody were favorable to women by default. Men were still picking up the check at restaurants and paying the tab at bars. Women scorned men who expected them to bear part of the expense of dating. They slapped men in the face and threw drinks on them, all acts of assault and battery, while filing ex parte domestic violence restraining orders to have boyfriends and husbands removed from the home. Soon virtually every man knew someone who got put through the works by a woman who wasn’t paying on a level field. Men looked at the rampaging females with alarm. Some started taking action to protect their careers and assets. They realized that women don’t want to be equal to men. They want to dominate men while being catered to as they have been in the past. Not long ago I listened in dismay as a little girl said, “Boys are always supposed to pay.”

American women believe that men should always pay and men generally do. Why is that? As a man do you consider your time and companionship any less valuable than that of a woman? If American women do not need a man why are men paying? Why are American women always pushing for marriage?

AColonizer

03-21-10, 21:53

This is my first time to read this thread: hey guys, that is the same problem in all Western world!

And I was surprised to find this thread, because I have been in USA once only, and I have found open-minded women in comparison of Italian women, or better, the USA social system is more open-minded than Italian social system: if you are complaining of your USA social system, what have we to do with our Italian social system?

Moreover, you, American men, are lucky because your religion is Christian Protestant (and not Catholic): can you guess what could happen if there was a Pope to manage people's minds: very much worse.

The feminism has freed women from some injustices, and meanwhile it is showing what is the DNA in females: CCC cock cash children, women are natural calculators oriented to material results only.

In the past there was a natural balance between strong but stupid men and weak but sly women. Now Feminism has won over Western social systems and men are weak and stupid and women are strong and sly. The next step is the self-reproduction by genetic engineering, women will make Y gametes in biotech industries.

What can we do? I think our last weapon is money, each dollar (or euro) of ours is worth much more than feelings, fuck and family: stop to pay, there are more women than men in the world, if a woman doesn't want to appreciate us, then there are billions of women, in other places, who can respect us and we can respect them.

Westy:
You made some wonderful points, the most poignant being that American women did not stop upon achieving equality with men but continued beyond that point. Now if one side goes beyond being equal then that is not equality by definition but rather a new status quo. Just as Hitler had convinced Neville Chamberlain that he had no greater ambitions beyond occupation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia, so American women had convinced their men that they sought nothing more than economic and social parity. American men bought into the equality deal. Women entered the workforce, politics and many other areas of American society previously considered the domain of men. However, after being given access these women began to use their gender in combination with laws meant to protect them from discrimination in the workplace to eliminate the males who they could not compete with on an equal footing. Women now had jobs and advanced degrees but they were still demanding and receiving preferential treatment in divorce courts. Alimony, child support and custody were favorable to women by default. Men were still picking up the check at restaurants and paying the tab at bars. Women scorned men who expected them to bear part of the expense of dating. They slapped men in the face and threw drinks on them, all acts of assault and battery, while filing ex parte domestic violence restraining orders to have boyfriends and husbands removed from the home. Soon virtually every man knew someone who got put through the works by a woman who wasn’t paying on a level field. Men looked at the rampaging females with alarm. Some started taking action to protect their careers and assets. They realized that women don’t want to be equal to men. They want to dominate men while being catered to as they have been in the past. Not long ago I listened in dismay as a little girl said, “Boys are always supposed to pay.”

American women believe that men should always pay and men generally do. Why is that? As a man do you consider your time and companionship any less valuable than that of a woman? If American women do not need a man why are men paying? Why are American women always pushing for marriage?

ThatGuy865

03-22-10, 05:18

So because AW(including psychotic biyotches, single 45 year old airheads, etc.) think they are the shit now, are they happier than women in other countries?

Not really, they are actually unhappy compared to many others. You are talking from a feminazy point of view. But this is what in reality:

http://www.Nber.org/papers/w14969:

"By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging. One with higher subjective well-being for men. "

http://theweek.com/article/index/96917/Women_feminism_and_happiness:

"American women are wealthier, healthier, and better educated than they were 30 years ago, " said Ross Douthat in The New York Times, but they're also more unhappy.

http://www.Doublex.com/section/life/real-reason-american-women-are-so-unhappy:

"The international picture helps explain why American women in particular have wound up on a downward emotional trajectory. While women in rich countries around the world may be becoming generally sadder (Buckingham cites a British study as well as two international studies that point in this direction), American women are still probably the gloomiest. Only 3 percent of people in Japan experience major depression in their lifetime, for instance, compared with about 17 percent of Americans, according to the most recent cross-national comparison of depression rates, conducted by psychiatrist Myrna Weissman in 1996.

So why are American women so particularly blue? For women, two of the most potentially life- (and mood-) altering factors are family size and work hours. American women have notable distinctions on both fronts. First, we have more babies than women in most any other developed country. While an American woman still typically has around 2. 1 children over her lifetime, in other rich countries, family size has dropped significantly as women have gained access to jobs and education. More than 90 nations throughout Europe and Asia now have fertility rates well below ours. Second, even while we've continued to raise sizable families, American women have achieved the very highest rate of full-time employment in the world, with 75 percent of employed women working full-time."The unhappiness has little to do with sex or men. Its more to do with women now being in the workforce and raising families and trying to do both. They have issue as to which is the priority. Women fill much more guilt about leaving kids, so a lot of women as they become successful in their careers and need to spend more time away from their families feel a bigger regret about missing out on the growth of the children. Hence the unhappiness measurement. Quite understandable.

ThatGuy865

03-22-10, 05:26

American women believe that men should always pay and men generally do. Why is that? As a man do you consider your time and companionship any less valuable than that of a woman? If American women do not need a man why are men paying? Why are American women always pushing for marriage?This is just not true. I have had many women pay for their own meals. I have not dated an AW in the last 20 years who has never paid for a meal. Unless it was one date and we never saw each other again. Maybe I pay for the first meal but often it has been the case where we alternate, especially after the relationship has developed. Quite a few have offered or insisted they even pay on the first date.

Australiasucks

03-22-10, 14:20

Westy

03-22-10, 16:32

Holy fucking shit... a housewife from the US who weighs 600 pounds a has goal...to become 1000 pounds:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/16/donna-simpson-nj-woman-ea_n_501245.html

I will try to get a picture of the husband who is only 160 pounds. LOL.
He won't be newsworthy unless she cooks and eats HIM. Or she gets on top, like a bull elephant seal, and he's crushed and suffocated in flagrante delicto.

Paging Captain Ahab, paging Captain Ahab.

Doctor_Skank

03-22-10, 20:57

Australiasucks

03-22-10, 21:26

Doctor_Skank

03-22-10, 22:24

You are full of shit.No, I just get laid more than you.

If you aren't getting decent puss, there's a reason why.

You.

Australiasucks

03-23-10, 01:16

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03-23-10, 01:17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pizdyets
A recent visit to Coyote was an eye-opener. The place is really gaining momentum. Was drinking there with some male friends and their GFs, and ogling some of the most beautiful girls I'd seen in my 10 years here. Aside from that handful of true stunners, female looks level is pretty decent overall, and the female:male ratio around 2:1, which is as good as I've seen anywhere in the past 3 years. The place was packed, but I had no idea how much so until a female friend called at 2am and said she couldn't get in. I went to the street and saw a line about 50 people long to get in with her at the end. Fortunately, the doormen were cool and let her come in with me immediately.

There's no doubt that the management here has their shit together (unlike most clubs here), and that's translating into more business.
I also like this place, although my only beefs are:

1) they gotta fix the coat check (garderobe) thing by next winter. Waiting 20 minutes to check a coat ain't cool.

2) when you go to the bathroom and come back your girlfriend is gone and then shows up 20 minutes later dancing on the bar in her underwear.

3) lots of expats. It's the new Karma Bar.

Russia and the USA are very different. I have been there, did not like it, women good but the country is CRAP. So many try to get into Australia, seeing it in real life its no surprise. German expats galore in Australia, and they think Germany is shit. As a place to live and work Australia is the best, for women its a mixed bag. I get laid enough but want more substance. Getting a girl to fuck you is easy, its the LTR is sticky Skank.

Goga Fung

03-23-10, 05:43

The unhappiness has little to do with sex or men. Its more to do with women now being in the workforce and raising families and trying to do both. They have issue as to which is the priority. Women fill much more guilt about leaving kids, so a lot of women as they become successful in their careers and need to spend more time away from their families feel a bigger regret about missing out on the growth of the children. Hence the unhappiness measurement. Quite understandable.I believe it has something to do with sex and men. Women in USA are too busy with their work, career, stress, education and shit. The USA lifestyle sucks more than anything else. In USA you can't call some girlfriends on a Monday nite to party, dating, sex, etc. Correct? I wish I was wrong. In USA you must plan in advance for some stupid "date". And most of them go nowhere.

I understand that there are some "good" women in USA, but it's like locating a needle in a haystack which can take forever. There is too much stuff is going on, women's heads are busy with stupid shit, they do not have time for you, they are trying to make themselves happy, but they cannot do it.

But here, I go to movies with a very hot girl and then she is just happy with that. They never complain. They make $200/month and still seem to be happy, happier than AW. And much more beautiful on average. It is just different. Also in USA/Canada there are lots of successful good looking guys date extremely ugly women, since they got no other choice

In USA I dated one American girl, she tried to make her fat ass happy with her BMW(like it's her achievement.), continuing education, etc. And still she was complaining about her mood, health, etc.

Yesterday was Monday, but it is not USA. So I had trouble choosing which girls to meet in the afternoon(3+ working girls) and then in the evening 4-5 regular educated professional girls. All of them were waiting for my call. I had to apologize to some of them that I can't meet them. WTF. In USA I believe even rich guys do not have such "problems" on Mondays. And at about 3 am was getting SMS from another girl, a daughter of the real estate agent I was getting an apartment from. She used her mom's cell phone first to give me her email and number. It is just an example of one Monday.

To make it even more "interesting", yesterday one guy told me why bother with these kinda girls who suck my money, why do not I move to Kazakhstan where plenty of girls who make good money and are very horny for men. They actually pay for you in restaurants, etc. But you're still the man. Maybe it's bullshit, who knows, but already several different people have said that.

So there is no point to spend years to find one "ok" biyotch in USA while you can get 10 times more in one day in another place.

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Doctor_Skank

03-23-10, 07:32

AS, I'm American and quality American pussy is available, I go there and get some every year. Can't go shopping without girls flirting with me.

American women are definitely not the top of my list either, but there are plenty of sweet, loving 120 lbs girls there. Not everybody is the 300 lbs ***** described in this thread. It is a complaint and complain away. I complained that American women aren't as sexual as European women, which is my experience.

As for Germany, 90% of what you posted about Germany is utter bullshit, full of the same paranoid spite you write here.

As for you failing at LTR, based on what you've shown of your personality here, it's no wonder.

DJ FourMoney

03-23-10, 07:50

Y'all need to find some better American women. They are there. Tend to agree with ThatGuy865 on a lot of points, but since this is essentially a complaint thread, I won't get into it.

One beef I do have with American women though is they aren't in touch with their sexuality as much as European women are. A lot of American women are full of complexes.

As I said before its a needle in the haystack issue. Should one waste his time finding that needle or open his horizons and get any good needle?

This thread often goes in different directions, sometimes its a complaint thread, other times its a expat thread, other times its a political thread.

Get involved Good Doctor... Isn't that track from The PJ's Soudtrack??? :)

Goga Fung

03-23-10, 09:46

As I said before its a needle in the haystack issue. Should one waste his time finding that needle or open his horizons and get any good needle?Exactly. There is also a second really bad part. Even though you get lucky and eventually find that "needle", because there are only few good ones around, she is gonna know it. And treat you not too good since there is no competition, and dispose you whenever she wants to.

In contrast, where there are many other nice beautiful girls around, they feel the competition and try harder for your attention. In USA it is just opposite, in USA men compete for womens attention.

Australiasucks

03-23-10, 11:04

Gentleman Travel

03-23-10, 18:42

One beef I do have with American women though is they aren't in touch with their sexuality as much as European women are. A lot of American women are full of complexes.
That's one main factor - the open (and eager) sexuality of EE women vs the repressed or bargaining mindset ("if I give a man sex, I must get something in return - a LTR, high status, household chores, whatever) that many AW have, especially the more educated/professional women. Sure EE women often want to get something out of their dates too, but they also want to have and enjoy sex.

The other main factor is socio-demographic balance - the number of hot women vs the number of eligible (i.e. well-off, good looking, acceptable age, serious) guys. In America there are enough healthy employed guys with BMWs to soak up most of hyper-sexual girls. That leaves those of us missing one of more key qualities out in the cold. In Eastern Europe the number of guys who even come close to that list versus the larger % of hot girls, means the girls will settle for guys with only one or two of the key qualities and compromise on the rest (like age or LTR). That makes for a happy hunting ground.

It doesn't mean that AW are all fat or worthless (although too many are), just that there is not enough fruit on the tree, or it is out of reach, for most of us. In EE (and elsewhere) there is lots more "low-hanging fruit"....

Doctor_Skank

03-23-10, 18:50

that's one main factor - the open (and eager) sexuality of ee women vs the repressed or bargaining mindset ("if i give a man sex, i must get something in return - a ltr, high status, household chores, whatever) that many aw have, especially the more educated/professional women. sure ee women often want to get something out of their dates too, but they also want to have and enjoy sex.

the other main factor is socio-demographic balance - the number of hot women vs the number of eligible (i.e. well-off, good looking, acceptable age, serious) guys. in america there are enough healthy employed guys with bmws to soak up most of hyper-sexual girls. that leaves those of us missing one of more key qualities out in the cold. in eastern europe the number of guys who even come close to that list versus the larger % of hot girls, means the girls will settle for guys with only one or two of the key qualities and compromise on the rest (like age or ltr). that makes for a happy hunting ground.

it doesn't mean that aw are all fat or worthless (although too many are), just that there is not enough fruit on the tree, or it is out of reach, for most of us. in ee (and elsewhere) there is lots more "low-hanging fruit"....thanks for summing up my thoughts gt. :)

i've often felt sorry for my american brethren, as the us is one of those countries (like the uk and italy as well) where the quality of man in terms of looks and personality is on average higher than the quality of available woman, thus this imbalance you mention.

other countries, particularly eastern europe for example, have higher quality women than men, although the women there are equally (if not more) manipulative as american women.

northern european women are sexual and fair in terms of the relationship, in my opinion an excellent combination. they are just as much hunters and hunted though in terms of setting themselves up for life, so courting them for ltr will require a man to bring some meat to the table. overall however, i find they are the best bet long-term.
so why your change on american women, i have read your old posts regarding germany, you seem to speak of well of them but not about american women. what is with this change of heart?if you'll research my 2000+ posts (haha... your time, not mine) you'll find that i've never promoted american women as a top choice for me or for anybody, i've only commented here that the common notion here that they are all fat, evil, conniving wenches is an exaggeration and in many cases, simply sour grapes. i've had many great us women in my life and every time i go to the us, i meet great us women. they're available and carry less baggage than you think. there is nothing so special about me to make it impossible for others to have the same experience.

moreover when it comes to getting quality women, it is just as important to work on oneself as it is to travel the world looking for easier, more available or more suiting women.

this applies to me just the same as anyone else.

as for other races of women, i've never been too interested in asian women as anything other than sexual partners. i find them boring and only attractive when they are young. obviously, many on this board will disagree with me.

latin women are much more appealing to me than asians, my experience with them having been universally good.

my experience with black women isn't siginificant enough to draw a conclusion from.

Australiasucks

03-23-10, 19:15

You are not living in the US, an ocean away and defending American women. Honestly Australian women are almost as bad, I would admit they are better since many Yanks fall in love with our Sheilas. I have seen attractive American women, and when I was in the US, my accent was a very effective ice breaker. I found though that American women can be very aggressive if you show any kind of kindness to them, they take full advantage of it. Aussie women do it in a similar way but I do not think Aussies are as pussy whipped as most Americans, sorry to say it but its true. A lot of US Navy personnel seem to mistake a good night of fucking with our women with love and LTR.

Most of my sex partners are Asian, and occasional European, even did a German girl half my age, but going to Europe there is better quality and that is why I go, I only go once every few years and do not spend most of my life there.

Obviously you a are man who gets to eat a lot of filet mignon, and even filet mignon every day can taste like mince beef. In that case I have wagyu every day and get tired of it. I love large breasts and good curves but not fatness. I have German friends in Australia who love Asian women and will always say their own are Scheisse. So its a point of view more than anything else. In some third world countries they idolize white females. I often see Indian males for example with some rather fat and obese white women, they idolize fair skin, its funny to see it.

To take the analogy further, one man's garbage is another's treasure. Some German customers in FKKs found it odd that I flew to the other side of the Earth simply to fuck, they kept telling me what was wrong with Thailand or other sex hot spots in Asia that are close to Australia.

Doctor_Skank

03-23-10, 19:36

You are not living in the US, an ocean away and defending American women.Yes, odd isn't it?

I have German friends in Australia who love Asian women and will always say their own are Scheisse. So its a point of view more than anything else. In some third world countries they idolize white females. I often see Indian males for example with some rather fat and obese white women, they idolize fair skin, its funny to see it.This is true, just the same as most Asian men will scoff at the choices white people make when choosing Asian women. Tastes differ.

I see a lot of German man-Asian wife combos in Germany and really wonder... if you have to get a "mail-order bride"... of course some prostitute they met in Thailand or the Phillipines... then why pick the dumpy ugly one?

But people choose what they feel comfortable with.

I can't say anything about Aussie women, only met a couple.

Doctor_Skank

03-23-10, 19:37

Get involved Good Doctor... Isn't that track from The PJ's Soudtrack??? :)I do believe it is... )

Australiasucks

03-23-10, 21:28

Yes, odd isn't it?
This is true, just the same as most Asian men will scoff at the choices white people make when choosing Asian women. Tastes differ.

I see a lot of German man-Asian wife combos in Germany and really wonder... if you have to get a "mail-order bride"... of course some prostitute they met in Thailand or the Phillipines... then why pick the dumpy ugly one?

But people choose what they feel comfortable with.

I can't say anything about Aussie women, only met a couple.

I have quite a few American friends in Australia, and they do not really have too many kind words for American women. I know an African American at my gym who has an especially wrathful view of Oprah Winfrey. I am sure if you go to back to the US, you will miss those Slavic beauties. I think Russian women are fabulous, but I would not live there. I went there a few years ago, and the worst aspect of it are Russian males, absolute retards and ultra aggressive, violent, xenophobic assholes. Many Western countries will allow in Russian women but not men. LOL. Even Aussies who are xenophobic tend to keep out of site or live in remote areas. It does not surprise me that people leave Russia in droves, probably that is what you were really insinuating about, since you are American, I do not blame you. Russo and CIS women tend to be very very easy, but I think its due to the fact of what I mentioned about their males, many Russian women I met in Europe told me this.

I visited China on a few occasions, also a police state like Russia, but unlike the Russians the Chinese tend to a more milder group and less aggressive, at least publicly.

Asian girls boring?? Not really, some are quite fun, a Skyline can be just as much fun as a Ferrari.

Jesterl

03-25-10, 02:12

I don't think it's this simple. Women don't view it as a war, and there is no woman's union. Women naturally want a better deal and expect it more then men, and therefore, will push it.

What you see in the USA is this phonomena mixed with asexuality and obese women (men are catching up but they're decades behind). It's a mismatch in expectations and body. The television also pushes the loud woman theme. Obsequieus men on TV is as pronounced as obsequieus women on TV in the fifties. Most countries don't have all of these factors. We also have an enormous geographical isolation.

In Italy, women are a pain, but they are feminine and the TV doesn't push these trends. In Scandinavia, women are more independent and like to screw.

Westy:

You made some wonderful points, the most poignant being that American women did not stop upon achieving equality with men but continued beyond that point. Now if one side goes beyond being equal then that is not equality by definition but rather a new status quo. Just as Hitler had convinced Neville Chamberlain that he had no greater ambitions beyond occupation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia, so American women had convinced their men that they sought nothing more than economic and social parity. American men bought into the equality deal. Women entered the workforce, politics and many other areas of American society previously considered the domain of men. However, after being given access these women began to use their gender in combination with laws meant to protect them from discrimination in the workplace to eliminate the males who they could not compete with on an equal footing. Women now had jobs and advanced degrees but they were still demanding and receiving preferential treatment in divorce courts. Alimony, child support and custody were favorable to women by default. Men were still picking up the check at restaurants and paying the tab at bars. Women scorned men who expected them to bear part of the expense of dating. They slapped men in the face and threw drinks on them, all acts of assault and battery, while filing ex parte domestic violence restraining orders to have boyfriends and husbands removed from the home. Soon virtually every man knew someone who got put through the works by a woman who wasn't paying on a level field. Men looked at the rampaging females with alarm. Some started taking action to protect their careers and assets. They realized that women don't want to be equal to men. They want to dominate men while being catered to as they have been in the past. Not long ago I listened in dismay as a little girl said, "Boys are always supposed to pay. "

American women believe that men should always pay and men generally do. Why is that? As a man do you consider your time and companionship any less valuable than that of a woman? If American women do not need a man why are men paying? Why are American women always pushing for marriage?

Australiasucks

03-25-10, 15:47

Italian women go down like chocolate but then taste bitter after a while...still well worth it. Asian women tend to be like stir fry, filling and good for you but not that exciting. The other analogy is the Italian is like a Ferrari and the latter is like a Honda.

Doctor_Skank

03-25-10, 18:06

In Italy, women are a pain, but they are feminine and the TV doesn't push these trends. A lot of Italian women are feminine, but just as many are rather rough looking.

I think the myth of Italian women being beautiful, just as the myth of French women being beautiful, is cured by a trip to either country.

Of course they are cute when they are young, but after 23 or 24 they start going downhill fast.

Aside from the super beauties that hang out in glamorous circles looking for a rich husband while the are still young and taut, the vast majority are dumpy and average, and as you said a pain as well.

No wonder Italian men are some of the world's most prolific mongers.

Australiasucks

03-25-10, 21:13

Doctor_Skank

03-25-10, 21:31

Quite a few Italians I met are quite beautiful, its all a matter of point of view. Some person's treasure is another person's trash.

Russians are probably the best looking Caucasians but there plenty of ugly ones. Most people I know think Germans are absolutely UGLY with a U including German guys themselves. Its funny to see many Germans to do shit jobs in my part of the world, from my observations, Western Germany seemed like a livable place although the weather is crap. A Japanese guy at my office thinks I am crazy for wanting to go to Germany for fun this Summer(Winter in my part of the globe). Most of the German girls I see who come to Australia are not that good looking, Angela Merkel type nasties. I saw one in the gym with a tight buddy but absolutely disgusting face, then there are some who are gorgeous.

You really have to go to Asia Doc, and see that the women there are on par or superior to the best that Europe has to offer, even Latin America. Too much Swiss chocolate and taste sour after a while too.I agree on the German women. There are of course beauties in Germany, especially in northern Germany near Hamburg and the coastal area around the Friesan Islands. Great mix of German, Dutch, Danish and Polish (immigrants) blood. Really amazing girls. But yes, overall there are far too many average or below average girls here. And they get kinda hippy. Not fat because of eating, but just kinda fat-assed from no excercise, drinking beer and wine and maybe just genetic.

The FKK kinda makes up for it though, and there are lots of girls here with immigrant or half-immigrant backgrounds, whether Portugeuse, Italian or Turkish. They can be really gorgeous and fairly open with their attitudes, like Germans. Turkish girls can be too, but it all depends on their social circles. If they are mostly Turkish, she'll be conservative or won't even consider dating non-Turkish guys. She knows how that ends up.

I could use some Asian poon though, for sure.

Australiasucks

03-25-10, 21:46

I went to a German non sex sauna a couple of years ago, got gawked at a by a German who looked like Angela Merkel above the neck, but had a superfit body and GIGANTIC tits, probably as big as soccer balls, and my shaft got so fucking big and few other people in near the pool started grinning, they knew I was not used to this. Algarve Bad was its name and its near the LR sex club. I paid more attention to the area under the neck, but did not want to get in trouble because its not a sex club and I heard there are very serious penalties for risque behavior in those places. She also had a scrawny husband.

In Australia, which to Americans is much more sexually liberated, I would get my ass thrown in jail and be accused of sexual harassment. Few Aussie women are into public nudity, and most of the nude beaches are big gay pick up joints. I went to one a long time ago, and got approached by a few gay guys, it got me very upset, I got realize how some women feel but most purposely want men to notice them, I wanted to get noticed by a female on a Sydney nude beach and got something else.

Nyc Expat

03-25-10, 23:31

It's a no contest comparing American women to north European, all of Scandinavia and the west coast regions of Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia for light skin, natural blondes. Very beautiful. I have posted previously my thoughts about Brazilian and Colombian women.

Unfortunately these ladies are or soon (the very young) will be Americanized because of exposure to the media and technology. After encountering AW's attitude towards men, I have chosen another nationality.

BTW, I viewed Sofia Vergara's website last night. She has hundreds of photos to get excited about.

Westy

03-25-10, 23:45

I don't think it's this simple. Women don't view it as a war, and there is no woman's union. Women naturally want a better deal and expect it more then men, and therefore, will push it.I ran into this quote on another Web site (Stickman's reposts on Thailand) and it rings true with my disappointing experiences in my homeland:

There are many beautiful and truly nice women in the west (USA), but they married early, and stayed married. Their husbands know they have a gem, and hold on to them. So what we are left with after about age 30 are the bitter and nasty survivors of the gender wars. And it is a war. For those who have not lived and worked in the USA in the past 10 to 20 years it is impossible to transmit how hostile the work place, and society as a whole, has become to men. I will try to focus this on only the dating scene, but the overall social upheaval has impacted dating by giving women the belief that they not only can have everything, but that it is there absolute right to have everything. And, if they don't have everything, then it is some man's fault.

I have 6 sisters. I have had the opportunity to observe their friends over many years. Most of them were fairly attractive and relatively nice people, when they were young. As they have grown older, and have used and discarded a number of men, they have become totally unpleasant, and I want nothing to do with them. One of their number, now in her 50's like me, recently told me that she was mildly interested in finding a man, but would accept nothing less than her ideal. He had to have all his hair, lots of money, no kids at home, an athletic build (I. E. Thin), and be willing to cater to all her needs, including supporting her completely so she could stop working. This is from a grey haired, wrinkled, fat, obnoxious *****.It has been two generations since Gloria Steinem wrote, "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle. " Maybe not in your part of the USA. If indeed you live in the USA. But in Washington, DC the women have taken this to heart.

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 01:05

Spain has fine women too, Bulgaria, even Romania.

Some maths, Australian women = American women = British women = Anglo Canadian women = Kiwi Women.

I knew a Yank who fell in love with an Aussie and then found out she was a fan of Oprah!!! LOL. I hate Oprah, wish she would choke on a doughnut.

I have to wait 60 painful days of more fasting before I get that fine Euro pussy.

I have had many experiences with American women, and its picking up an American girl, although easier with my accent, is like a job interview, they ask you what you do, how much you make. Many women everywhere are after money but Yankee women take it to the highest degree.

European girls are a lot more spontaneous, and base a lot of things on your appearance. I had women smile at me who I never met, it happened many times in busy train station in Germany, it was strange at first.

The German sex scene is pretty damn straightforward, its an amazing feeling of power to walk into a house full of nude or semi nude women, be able to fuck them for small amounts of money. Similar services with those types in Australia would cost 20 times as much. I even know a girl from Cologne in Sydney who raised her price to $600 AUD or a little over 400EUR for 40 minutes, how many girls could I fuck in an FKK for that much? In the average probably seven when you include the entrance fee. Asian girls in Australia charge a tenth of that and do everything and Asian girls are easy as shit to pick up anyway. I am 48, I got a very innocent 19 year old Filipino hitting on me, totally fuckable that seems to constantly want me, but I feel she is too young. Then again Filipinas are known for going after a guy who might support her.

Some German girls are quite the knockouts but many are manly.

DJ FourMoney

03-26-10, 07:19

A lot of Italian women are feminine, but just as many are rather rough looking.

I think the myth of Italian women being beautiful, just as the myth of French women being beautiful, is cured by a trip to either country.

Of course they are cute when they are young, but after 23 or 24 they start going downhill fast.

Aside from the super beauties that hang out in glamorous circles looking for a rich husband while the are still young and taut, the vast majority are dumpy and average, and as you said a pain as well.

No wonder Italian men are some of the world's most prolific mongers.

LOL, as I remember asking a French-African man about women in France, he said "Why do you think I'm in Stockholm?"

I also never hear men from US Armed Forces talk up Italian women either, despite the US Navy, Air Force and Army bases in Italy. I guess that explains all the Italian men in Eastern Europe doesn't it?

Goga Fung

03-26-10, 08:12

LOL, as I remember asking a French-African man about women in France, he said "Why do you think I'm in Stockholm?"

I also never hear men from US Armed Forces talk up Italian women either, despite the US Navy, Air Force and Army bases in Italy. I guess that explains all the Italian men in Eastern Europe doesn't it?When I was in France, Italy, Spain most of the beautiful women I saw there were Russian or other Eastern Europeans. or South American.

Also in Barcelona I saw too many(mostly) ugly women, some of them had nice tops, but really bad bottoms(legs and ass). Looks like they have been becoming fatter and fatter like their American counterparts.

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 15:12

Same thing in Germany most of the beautiful women there are from Eastern Europe, met a Ukrainian prostitute who was absolutely a knock out, and turned out to be Jewish as well. She even told me a lot about German xenophobia and how she sat in a train station booth while two German girls started heckling Turks and other people "Scheisse Auslander", but ignored her. Her father kept pressuring her to go to Israel, she never did. Russians and Western Europeans are caucasian, essentially look the same. The Ukrainian girl I met, I assumed she was German, until I spoke to her. There are some real German girls I met who are beautiful but they seem to be a smaller percent of the women under 30. Many German women are masculine Brunhelga types. Italian women in the 70s were amazing, the standards have fallen. Even American women used to knock people out decades ago, the average way of life has become more lazy and slothful in the West, eating junk, sitting on one's ass too much, changes you. I used to fantasize about Daisy Dukes, looked like an amazing Southern Belle, saw what she looked like recently, like a beat up auto. Things change...all the time.

I noticed myself that I started living a more healthful life, eating the right things, working out, ignoring negative BS, I do not watch the TV news.

For some of you Yanks, Hulk Hogan moved to Australia last year to start a new life, he got into a mock fight with Rick Flair, people really believe a 140 Kilo man who get his ass kicked no, it was a stunt.

http://inner-west-courier.whereilive.com.au/news/story/hulk-hogan-gets-bashed/

Piper1

03-26-10, 16:14

You are full of shit.
No, I just get laid more than you. If you aren't getting decent puss, there's a reason why.

You.Keep in mind that 'Australia Sucks' is actually 'CBGBconnisur', a confused American schoolteacher in Sydney, who stopped posting a while, and is now trying (unsuccessfully) to masquerade as an Aussie-hating British-Aussie.

As a half-Aussie, I object, Mr Sucks! Be nice to your host country, or go home.

But seriously, good to see you back - your posts are occasionally entertaining.

PS - there was a good Oprah show about keyboard warriors and online personas recently - did you see it? ;)

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 19:38

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Doctor_Skank

03-26-10, 19:40

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 19:43

Who the fuck is CBGB?

Oprah is part of the Yankee femnazi movement, fuck what she says. Anyhow if you have not paid attention, Rudd sold out to you know who actually Howard sealed the deal 7 years ago with Hu. The Sydney CBD is more like China than a penal colony full of bogans and yobbos, thats the Far West and Southern suburbs of Sydney. I am on the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) right now, I am going to Europe May 31st and cannot contain my excitement.

I really have been looking at women like cars, want the best performance for my hard earned money.

Doctor_Skank

03-26-10, 19:58

I really have been looking at women like cars, want the best performance for my hard earned money.Then go for late-model low-mileage...

DJ FourMoney

03-26-10, 20:02

I agree on the German women. There are of course beauties in Germany, especially in northern Germany near Hamburg and the coastal area around the Friesan Islands. Great mix of German, Dutch, Danish and Polish (immigrants) blood. Really amazing girls. But yes, overall there are far too many average or below average girls here. And they get kinda hippy. Not fat because of eating, but just kinda fat-assed from no excercise, drinking beer and wine and maybe just genetic.

The FKK kinda makes up for it though, and there are lots of girls here with immigrant or half-immigrant backgrounds, whether Portugeuse, Italian or Turkish. They can be really gorgeous and fairly open with their attitudes, like Germans. Turkish girls can be too, but it all depends on their social circles. If they are mostly Turkish, she'll be conservative or won't even consider dating non-Turkish guys. She knows how that ends up.

I could use some Asian poon though, for sure.

See I knew you would be useful to the debate...

I noticed that too while in Germany that you rarely find Claudia Schiffer or Hedi Klum walking around. Though you do find a cute one here and there. I also agree that Germans are fairly open with their attitudes.

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 20:14

Then go for late-model low-mileage...

Hard to find that among Anglophone women. Easy among Euros, Asians, Latinas. You seem to spend most of your time mongering among Russian and Euro women, so why do you feel the need to defend American/Anglo women? I personally had a very bad breakdowns with them had to put a lot of money to get good performance. Small town American girls are a different breed from big city American girls, the former usually offering better performance.

Turks in Germany remind me of Mexicans in California, mostly poor working class immigrants. Some are cute, some do not impress me, I was very impressed with the Ukrainian I met a couple of years ago.

With Asian girls, there are multiple reasons why they want you, sometimes you are really walking visa or cash machine for them, sometimes you really cannot figure it out.

DJ FourMoney

03-26-10, 20:28

When I was in France, Italy, Spain most of the beautiful women I saw there were Russian or other Eastern Europeans. or South American.

Also in Barcelona I saw too many(mostly) ugly women, some of them had nice tops, but really bad bottoms(legs and ass). Looks like they have been becoming fatter and fatter like their American counterparts.

To be fair, I see fat women, but I also see thin women here (SoCal). I know why men like petite Asian women figuring they are already tiny and thin what could go wrong?

I think I'll go to the Long Beach GP (IRL and ALMS) next month and whoa the eye candy and I'm not talking about the grid girls or your typical beer swilling mother of 3 at a NASCAR oval. Since IRL/ALMS fan base is more affluent you see thinner women by default and much better looking women...

Doctor_Skank

03-26-10, 20:29

Turks in Germany remind me of Mexicans in California, mostly poor working class immigrants. Some are cute, some do not impress me, I was very impressed with the Ukrainian I met a couple of years ago.

With Asian girls, there are multiple reasons why they want you, sometimes you are really walking visa or cash machine for them, sometimes you really cannot figure it out.And you are basing your opinions on Euros on a couple of encounters, the majority of which were probably with prostitutes?

Turks are largely inaccessible in Germany, this is true. And not much of a loss.

I'm not adamantly defending anglo-women, just said they aren't as uniformly bad as often stated here. But never mind, no one is listening. :)

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 20:40

They fucking suck, many Yanks I know personally do not like dealing with the high maintenance efforts that being with an American woman entails, especially when better alternatives are out there.

When I go overseas, I go for a while, had experiences with non prostitutes but yes mostly prostitutes in Germany, yes its true Turks largely stick with their own but they are very similar to Mexicans in California, mostly due the work the locals are too fucking lazy to do, get discriminated against, etc. Even many Mexicans do not date outside their own. Lebanese in Australia are a very intense version of the German Turks, and they largely do not mix with anyone else, very hard to get a Lebanese girl if you are not one of them. But alas there is a division between them, Christians and Muslims, the Christians might be a bit more secular and open. Almost all the extremely attractive women I saw in Germany were prostitutes which is odd because Germany is a well off country and I am sure there are men with money and decent prospects like any other affluent place. American and Aussie women usually know how to milk it.

I have been hit on by American females many times, banged quite a few, they are a bit too much for me. Talk too fucking loud, extremely opinionated, get insulted when you disagree with them. Aussie women usually are nice and pleasant in the beginning but start to go sour after a while, most Aussies know this.

Doctor_Skank

03-26-10, 20:56

Almost all the extremely attractive women I saw in Germany were prostitutes which is odd because Germany is a well off country and I am sure there are men with money and decent prospects like any other affluent place. There are. Go to any upscale disco or club in a major city and you'll find a lot of nubile 18-24 year olds, model quality at least in terms of body. Many of them have attractive, yet plain faces.

My favorite places for girl-watching in Germany are Hamburg and Düsseldorf. Both Claudia Schiffer and Heidi Klum (neither of which I like BTW) are from the Düsseldorf area. Again, great bodies... plain faces.

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 21:21

i have been to the alstadt in dusseldorf, girls there are easy as shit, being an older fellow a lot easier than similar places in sydney where you almost have to be below 30 to have a chance of them breathing in your direction. they are especially so if you come from a very desirable place or look good or whatever. you are going to bang them and then go one and try the same thing again. i really just like the fkk thing because its a sense of power to throw down some cash and get any little dirty fantasy in the back of your head fulfilled, none of the courtship bullshit, just a good fuck. in virtually all western countries you really have to kiss a woman's ass to get her. i saw a docco on sweden where men are forced to sit on a toilet to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), that is fucking sad, so i think there is probably something worse than american women.

eastern societies are different. japan is a rich developed country but their male female relationships are a different breed from the west, a lot more traditional. some people i know love that kind of thing, i do, really sick of the new age bullshit. i would really love to tell off oprah if i met her but never will.

most aussies with half a brain will avoid an anglo girl and go with an asian, walk down a sydney street if you get a chance and you will see it a lot of aussie male-asian female couples, the real reason you do not see asians with white females is because the asian guys are smart and really do not want an assertive woman, only the occasional asian guy with a white female but most asian guys i know often love to dismiss western women as subpar. its really complicated because when in asia they think western girls are big breasted blonde barbie dolls but reality hits them like a heap of bricks when they are in the west. it might sound racist but when the couple is of a similar background it is usually the most optimal situation. just human nature.

a long time ago a woman in a small town in california who happened to live near me ask me if she could practice blowjobs on me, i guess she got bored. big city women are not like that. pussy is not that hard to get, the real thing is finding a genuine life partner that actually gives a shit about you and not just your cock and what you have in the bank. i truly envy my japanese colleague and even my father who had the traditional way of life.

Capt Ajax

03-26-10, 21:31

Small town American girls are a different breed from big city American girls, the former usually offering better performance.

So true!!! Small town American girls is where it's at, if you're a looking for a woman that knows and loves to fuck. If you want a traditional wife that understands her role, then it's best to pick up a gal in small town America and then stay there. If you decide to move to an urban area, you can bet she'll turn ghetto on your ass.

Nyc Expat

03-26-10, 23:21

I am going to Europe May 31st and cannot contain my excitement.

I will look forward to your reports from Europe, especially Copenhagen. Suggestion: Stick to the topic of women, not your friends or politics :-). OK?

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 23:48

So true!!! Small town American girls is where it's at, if you're a looking for a woman that knows and loves to fuck. If you want a traditional wife that understands her role, then it's best to pick up a gal in small town America and then stay there. If you decide to move to an urban area, you can bet she'll turn ghetto on your ass.

She claimed that she wanted to become a porn star, she was definitely a good piece of ass, I got a lot more than a blowjob from her. So Dr. won the debate, America does have good pussy, avoid the large cities and go to small towns, women who have less to do, or less money will usually crave more cock or bored enough to pay attention to you, women in large US cities unfortunately suck, San Francisco is an exception, due to its huge gay population, there is less for the straight women, probably the easiest big city in the USA to hook up with women. New York women are also easy depending upon where you go, I spent a couple of months in NY and became fond of Puerto Ricans. Miami was hard, Cuban American girls got attitude and are real conservative.

Doc, would you agree Turkish women look similar to Hispanics? I recall one Turkish girl looked very Jessica Alba-ish. That is what I found most of them to be except for one in a PT who looked like a young Queen Elizabeth. I do agree that they mostly seem to stick with their own and probably due to their Muslim beliefs. Although for the most part the similarities between them and Mexicans are pretty obvious, Turks came to Germany as guest workers mostly then many opened kebab shops, and other little businesses. Quite a few in my part of the world but the perception of them is very different.

In my weird point of view I like Europe for mongering, my first experience in a sauna was a lot of fun, seeing women let it all hang out and not winding up arrested for being a perv.

Places in Western Europe do have a lot of beauties and it seems like that due to population density and the huge Eastern European immigrant population. Who really cares if a girl is not a real Italian or German?? As long as she is there and you are within range to get a chance to fuck her, that is what counts. Sometimes that is why I think Australia can be a letdown for sex, its giant and lightly populated country.

I recall a Arab looking woman in Australia who said she was from Denmark, had tits that I would bury my face in all day. Turned out to be part Indian and part Danish.

Nyc Expat

03-27-10, 02:46

A quick response that many Danes of both sexes are marrying with different ethnic members f.ex. Asian/Dane, Middle Eastern/Dane, South American/Dane and last but not least black Am./Dane.

You have seen the famous model Helena Christensen? She's half Danish (father), half Peruvian (Mom). Beautiful light, captivating eyes. She did a video with Chris Isaak "Wicked Games". Currently can be seen on a US bra TV comm'l. My point is the offspring of these mixes are gorgeous. All my years living in Copenhagen I have never, never seen an ugly child from a mix.

Australiasucks

03-27-10, 02:51

Mixed race people being good looking seems to be a rule pretty much all over the place.

Australiasucks

03-27-10, 02:53

Piper1

03-27-10, 02:59

Who the fuck are you?? I repeatedly said I am not American, and you are a stupid ****. Oprah is a fat fucking blob that represents fat American female blobs. You are officially a fuckwit. I am an Aussie citizen so go fuck off.Geez, CBGB, that was very un-Australian of you. :D

Yes, Gentlemen, Mr. Sucks is officially CBGBconnisur, so be aware you're dealing with an American ex-poster who for some unknown reason has come back to ISG under a new "Aussie" identity to criticize his host country.

CBGB - good work on suddenly turning up the Aussie vernacular (but you're overdoing it a bit). Good onya mate!

I remember the good ole CBGB, who, just like Mr. Sucks, almost daily posted short rants in the AW and the American Politics threads (repeating them almost verbatim every week or so). He (just like Mr. Sucks) had a thing for dairy-body-odor on women, was obsessed with Obama, Kim Kardashian, Jessica Alba, Asian people taking over Sydney, travelled to FKK Clubs occasionally, hates Australia almost as much as he hates his homeland America. And, just like Mr. Sucks, he usually has a tale to tell that starts with "I knew a guy once who told me that ..." or "I had a friend who once who said ..."

Ring a bell?

Australiasucks

03-27-10, 03:07

Hung Man 1808

03-27-10, 05:22

No it does not, who cares.

We do.

Would you like to go forth and multiply? Do you like sex and travel? :D

Then kindly do so.

DJ FourMoney

03-27-10, 05:27

There are. Go to any upscale disco or club in a major city and you'll find a lot of nubile 18-24 year olds, model quality at least in terms of body. Many of them have attractive, yet plain faces.

My favorite places for girl-watching in Germany are Hamburg and Düsseldorf. Both Claudia Schiffer and Heidi Klum (neither of which I like BTW) are from the Düsseldorf area. Again, great bodies... plain faces.

I like both but I for one never question your taste your photos stand on their own merit...

Like I said I knew you would be useful around here...

Mike12

03-27-10, 09:43

A couple of years ago me and my then Argentine girlfriend went on a double-date in Chinatown with a buddy of mine and his girl. Both of them Italian blondes with similar traits, except mine was new in country and lovably naieve. My friends girl was not very friendly, loud, and talked over mine and acted like she was not even there. I didn't pick up on too much on it then, but it retrospect it helped spoil the relationship.

Anyways, thinking about my lost Cordobesa chica, whats with this affectatious tone of voice alot of females speak in nowadays. Almost like a preconceived british accent drawing out a one syllable word into two syllables effect. Statements that sound like questions. Haughty tone of voice. Guys talking that way also to fit in. Watch "The Hills", "The City," reality shows, or listen to any Kesha song - "Tick Tock," for example, ad naseum. I don't find it sexy or intelligent in the least. Give me the
"me so horny" Viet girl from "Full Metal Jacket" anyday.

Australiasucks

03-27-10, 11:48

Geez, CBGB, that was very un-Australian of you. :D

Yes, Gentlemen, Mr. Sucks is officially CBGBconnisur, so be aware you're dealing with an American ex-poster who for some unknown reason has come back to ISG under a new "Aussie" identity to criticize his host country.

CBGB - good work on suddenly turning up the Aussie vernacular (but you're overdoing it a bit). Good onya mate!

I remember the good ole CBGB, who, just like Mr. Sucks, almost daily posted short rants in the AW and the American Politics threads (repeating them almost verbatim every week or so). He (just like Mr. Sucks) had a thing for dairy-body-odor on women, was obsessed with Obama, Kim Kardashian, Jessica Alba, Asian people taking over Sydney, travelled to FKK Clubs occasionally, hates Australia almost as much as he hates his homeland America. And, just like Mr. Sucks, he usually has a tale to tell that starts with "I knew a guy once who told me that ..." or "I had a friend who once who said ..."

Ring a bell?

I looked at some of your recent posts, its obvious you are based in the Gulf region, so why are you so incensed about my comments. I like Australia and am in Australia and spent 11 of 12 months of the year in Australia. And a very large percent of the people I deal with on a given day are Asian, its a fact. Oh I forgot to give credit to the huge WOG population in Sydney, the Italians, and the Lebanese. Saw the police throw a whole bunch in the dock the other night. I actually do have a Lebanese friend who is going to accompany me on my trip with a Pacific Islander. The local white Aussie girls suck, and any male will admit that fact to you, also when an alternative is available, why bother? Duh. I have practically banned all white women from my cock....unless its in Europe. Don't want to deal with the female descendants of the trash that Europe threw on the colonies such as the one I am currently residing and another one that I love to rag on :). Another fact, I can throw on you is that one third of Australians travel outside the country at least once a year, a lot more than most Americans and even Euros.

Also I find European tourists in Sydney to complete dumb fucks, especially the Germans, but when I go their country, I don't meet these same dumbasses, the Germans in Germany tend to be well behaved. The French tend to be alright though especially their females. I prefer dealing with Asian of all kinds including Indians whose mass media claims Australia hates Indians(but we give visas to them more than any other Western country). The other things is that American tourists I meet in Australia tend to be very nice people but these represent the small percent of Americans who actually travel overseas, and most of the time they are older. If I am not mistaken, international travel makes up no more than 5 to 10 percent of tickets sold for American travelers. Canadians are a more common sight here, the poorer and more backward neighbors to the North.

I also used the Australisucks as my name largely because I was angry over a custody fight with my ex and I know our stupid Aussie government loves to fuck over men.

Certain groups of women do have a peculiar aroma, but so what, its normal. That is why deodorant and soap sell but some people obviously do no use it, the last time I went to Germany, I went on Air France, and that plane REEKED of Brie after nearly 28 hour flight. Flew on long haul on Asian carriers, and no Brie smell. Though one pleasant memory was a French guy asked me to trade his seat, he wanted to sit with his mates and I got the option of being sandwiched between to very nice French females, dirty old man I am. He was probably gay because that one 18 year old's cleavage made my 28 hours seem short.

Piper1

03-27-10, 12:47

I looked at some of your recent posts, its obvious you are based in the Gulf region, so why are you so incensed about my comments.Not incenced at all - I just missed you CBGB. ;) Your posts can be fun. I find most posts in this thread (including yours, if you want honesty) to be vacuous stereotyping, or guys with axes to grind (angry divorcees, rejected guys, etc). Not my style to be so negative, so I don't have much to add here. But to be relevant to the thread, I'll add one:

My experience with American women (in the States, Australia, Dubai, anywhere), has usually been great - but then again, I never married them. :) I found the novelty factor of being an Australian always worked well for me in the US - a few well-worded ads and my mugshot on dating sites, and I always had more American girls than I could handle. All of those I dated were good fun, and, contrary to stereotype, almost all of them banged (heartily) on the first date. I'm no Brad Pitt, so it's not my looks, but I think they appreciated a guy who was confident, chilled out, a bit of a bad-boy (girls love that), has a sense of humour, doesn't moan and groan about the world, and can carry a conversation easily.

You've got me thinking about my days in Boston again - all those college girls - aaah!

Australiasucks

03-27-10, 14:35

I think American women stink, yes, they are receptive to your accent but watch what happens. I should have told you more about that wannabe porno star, she tried to really screw me over where it hurts.

And I like Australia, I make a good living here, the weather is great, not living on the street, do not have to worry about heating bills like most of my American friends. Some North Americans in Oz whinge about the heat, its not that bad in Sydney, well only from December to February. I wonder why many of us go overseas? I guess some people like getting hit by a train. Life in Oz is easy.

Also Australian Rugby League vs. American Football, no contest, NRL!!! I remember those Super Bowls and that stupid half time show and all that commercial bullshit and constant time outs!!! NRL is a faster game.

The Aussie is doing real well, you must love being overseas. I am wishing the Aussie now gets on par with the Euro, now that those dumb Wogs in Greece have nearly sabotaged the European financial system.

I am trying to get my name changed to AussieAussie Oi Oi!!!

Doctor_Skank

03-27-10, 14:41

The Aussie is doing real well, you must love being overseas. I am wishing the Aussie now gets on par with the Euro, now that those dumb Wogs in Greece have nearly sabotaged the European financial system.The Euro isn't threatened by Greece's problems, it's a tiny country in terms of GDP and population.

It will only get serious if Spain and Portugal crumble next.

I'd be tickled pink if Germany went back to the Deutschmark, but that ain't gonna happen.

Australiasucks

03-27-10, 14:45

The Euro isn't threatened by Greece's problems, it's a tiny country in terms of GDP and population.

It will only get serious if Spain and Portugal crumble next.

I'd be tickled pink if Germany went back to the Deutschmark, but that ain't gonna happen.

The Euro is just as overvalued as the American Dollar, most European countries are in the toilet. I even see German kids in Oz picking fruit in the hot sun. One of them started crying after a half an hour, sissies. Spain has 20 percent unemployment, maybe I should monger there too and help some unemployed Spaniards. Australia is in the best shape of all developed nations, its a fact.

The Aussie was barely half a Euro a while back and now nearly 70 Euro cents, more pussy for me.
Spain is going down next. Italy is in the shits.

No wonder those gorgeous beauties in FKK Clubs fuck for peanuts. The same thing in Sydney would set me back a minimum of 600 bucks easy.

Australia is doing great mostly because of Asian trade. China is not going anywhere but up and so is India. Aren't those Russkies betting the farm on Asia with their new oil pipeline? Either that or Putin might wind up like one of those czars. Still those Russian girls, mmmmmm. But those Russian blokes seem like Borats, good for a laugh.

Nyc Expat

03-27-10, 17:06

The dollar is not overvalued. The currency is at mid-1980's values.
The dollar has to increase at least 80% before overvaluation can be considered. Sales tax in Euro countries are 3-6 times USA rates. Purchasing power is less than half its current rate for a tourist using dollars to exchange. That's why pussy is very expensive in most EEC member countries except the old eastern block.

The Euro is a scam among member countries. When they agreed to the introduction of the Euro, goods and services increased in every country associated with it. It was something like 10-25%. Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal had to adjust their prices accordingly so Euroland would be reasonably equal as possible (their preference, not mine). Denmark and GB was wise to maintain their currency as well as Sweden and Norway staying away from the EEC group completely. Denmark has Europe's most stable economy today with the lowest EEC unemployment.

Furysys

03-27-10, 20:48

Probably one of the best economies in the world is right here in Western Canada, where our loonie has soared to near-par against the US$, and is figured to go over par sometime this summer. To go with our strong economy and dollar is probably the worst female situation in the world, which gives me the opportunity to save a lot and spend it on far more worthy (and willing) women in Latin America....but I have GOT to get to Ghana one of these days, every time I read a Ghana post, I want to get on the next plane outta here!

Australiasucks

03-28-10, 02:22

Nyc Expat

03-28-10, 16:47

No, actually the US Dollar was overvalued during the late 1990s and early 2000s, it is still a little bit overvalued. From what Bernanke is trying, he is attempting and trying to maintain a weaker dollar policy. The massive deficits that the US carries will weigh down on the Dollar making it undervalued in a few years.

I really need to reply to your incorrect info. The dollar is not overvalued now. The exchange rate is exactly the same as it was during the Reagan years. The US$ increased in value to an acceptable exchange rate during the Clinton Admin. Mongers and tourists traveling to Europe received a fair exchange rate never being overvalued. Remember goods and services in Europe was and still is approx. 50%-100% more expensive than US cost. When GWB took office, his strategy was to allow the dollar to fall to boost exports, thus improving the economy. It never happened. His admin. dollar policy was a complete disaster.

Now we have an economic crisis making it difficult for the dollar to recover because of low interest rates. Foreign investors have no incentive to invest or buy dollars. In the first four years of the last decade the dollar lost over 40% of its value making it extremely expensive for Am. tourists and hobbyists to travel and visit Europe. Trust me I know my facts. I ran a business for many years with a website dealing with many worldwide currencies 3 x longer than your living in Calif. I also had customers in Aust. and Asia.

The current exchange rate today is equal to what it was 25 years ago. The Euro has increased in value almost equal to the dollars lose in value. I think the A$ vs. US$ had different rates compared to Euro currencies and later the Euro itself. Euro ecomomists use the price of a Big Mac as a barometer. US price vs. Euro price. Yeah LOL. It's true. Any Am. citizen member on this board now in Europe can confirm comparison pricing. Members on this board whom visited S. Am. can also confirm an undervalued US$ including myself in Colombia and Brazil. Somewhere between 15-25% since 2004 in those 2 countries most popular among hobbyists.

Now end the currency comments and more AW.

Australiasucks

03-28-10, 17:37

Few Americans go overseas anyway, so most people do not see the difference. Goods in America still tend to be cheaper than anywhere else, a $20,000 US dollar Honda in America costs $30,000 US in Australia, etc. That Big Mac index has its flaws because it assumes all goods have the same relative price.
If you look at the cost of a car in China, such as a BMW, they are more expensive their than in the USA. The Chinese love big American cars too, GM is making money there but losing money in the US, the CEO of GM said so much good about the Chinese, since they are buying his products.

Even a Mac costs less in America than in Australia, so even the strong Aussie has not changed prices for the better. The prices for them in Europe are outrageous too. If you replaced the Big Mac index with an Apple Mac Index, the Dollar looks undervalued but only by around 20 percent.

Yes lets get back to saying why AWs are terrible, I keep getting sidetracked by other posters.

Nyc Expat

03-28-10, 18:16

BMW costs more in its homeland. Because of quantity sales and price competition the car is cheaper in USA. Same for M-B and VW. GM is doing well in China because the Chinese dream of material Americanization and the cars are unique status symbols. It won't last because German auto makers will reduce pricing and they already have the quality and safety advantageous over GM automobiles. Imagine a 5'4" Chinese man needing a ladder to get into his Hummer or obese short US man driving his penis extender Hummer. LOL, lol.

Stop your sidetracking boring other members.

Australiasucks

03-28-10, 22:57

So what else can we say about American women that make them so horrific.

Vaquero

03-29-10, 07:11

I think women worldwide desire money and security. What sets a lot of American women apart is that they have such greater independence here and sexual politics in the workplace that approach affirmative action.

And maybe in some areas, this is accompanied by a Puritanical frigidness.

I think a lot of women, regardless of ethnicity, reach a certain age and try to be born again virgins. And I'm amazed by how some women, no matter how far they've let themselves go, expect guys do anything for a piece.

I think women are horrified by prostitution mainly because they view sex workers as union busters.

Artisttyp

03-29-10, 07:46

And I'm amazed by how some women, no matter how far they've let themselves go, expect guys do anything for a piece.

It could be dragging all over the floor. Regardless there will always be some sexless chump willing to carry her load.

If I couldn't travel I'd probably be one of them. Some guys just can't afford to monger. I look down on our culture not the guy trying to bust a nut.

Australiasucks

03-29-10, 14:29

While American women are bad, there is no fucking way I will trust Spanish speaking women, totally do not know what they are thinking. Asians are alright.

Goga Fung

03-29-10, 15:39

While American women are bad, there is no fucking way I will trust Spanish speaking women, totally do not know what they are thinking. Asians are alright.I believe it is not the nationality - American, Spanish, Asian ... It is how/where they have been brought up and which environment they are in. There are many Asian biyotches in USA who are even worse than American girls.

Here in Central Asia now I date several girls who are good-looking or beautiful, all like to cook, clean the house, all want to get married etc.. I can only imaging if those girls were in USA most likely they would be completely different. It is just very different local culture and life style than in USA. The nationality is secondary.

Capt Ajax

03-29-10, 16:00

While American women are bad, there is no fucking way I will trust Spanish speaking women, totally do not know what they are thinking. Asians are alright.

No fucking way, do I trust Asian women. Some, not all Spanish speaking women are okay. American women, I don't trust trust much at all.

Nyc Expat

03-29-10, 16:02

Not sure you're right about all Spanish spk. women. There are many trustworthy and honest towards AM as GF or wives.

On the other hand, marry an Asian woman, you marry her whole family. I'm sure other members can confirm. Many of them ask for money to send home to unfortunate family members for survival according to them. I knew a man married to a PH woman. He gave her money to send to her parents to build a house. There's always bad fruit in any bushel. Just make the wisest decision where you put your dick and how you spend your cash.

When reading all the comments on all of these threads, you make a deal with a hispanic woman, you get what you paid for plus extras if she likes you and you treat her respectfully. There are many comments about Asian women ripping off members of property or just not keeping their half of the deal.

Australiasucks

03-29-10, 16:48

No fucking way, do I trust Asian women. Spanish speaking women are okay IMHO. American women, though better than British women, I don't trust trust much at all.

Depends upon the Asian girl, Japanese are very very honest and open,nothing like the Japanese anywhere on Earth. In general I trust them more than Spanish speaking women, many act like sluts, although attractive, you cannot trust the majority, they also have a very colonized mindset. If you have been to Miami, you will know exactly what I am talking about.

People in the Philippines and some of the SE Asian countries are poorer than shit, so money is a motivation in their friendliness towards Western men. Its a very different thing in the Japanese, who are mostly comparable to the West in living standards. Indians are like this too, and also got a super colonized mindset, go to India and it will be very obvious.

It depends upon where in Asia, which is the largest continent on Earth and over 30 countries, I consider places like Iran and Afghanistan Asia, take a look on a map. Some people say its the "Middle East" this is something conjured up by the US media, Middle East does not exist, its either North Africa or the Far West of Asia.

Gentleman Travel

03-29-10, 18:45

I have been hit on by American females many times, banged quite a few, they are a bit too much for me. Talk too fucking loud, extremely opinionated, get insulted when you disagree with them. Kind of like Aussie men, then...

Jan 156

03-29-10, 20:44

I think women worldwide desire money and security. What sets a lot of American women apart is that they have such greater independence here and sexual politics in the workplace that approach affirmative action.

well actually people worldwide desire those. The thing that sets U.S. women apart from their European counterparts is the U.S. culture of rather primitive religiosity, even if a sizeable chunk of the people don't subscribe to it. The traditions go hand in hand. It is respectable for American women to expect men to be providers even on a date, and many US men feel a bit emasculated if they cannot demonstrate their hunter-gatherer superiority by paying for stuff. In Europe, I respect a woman more who acts like an equal from the word go. And I mean demonstrating the size if her wallet where appropriate. ;) US women of that ilk, or women here that act like non-earners, remind me of prostitutes. I just pay gradually and discreetely.

And maybe in some areas, this is accompanied by a Puritanical frigidness.

I think it's the love-hate thing about sex. Dying to see what's in the forbidden / loathed cookie jar. Very apparent in Hollywood movies.

I think a lot of women, regardless of ethnicity, reach a certain age and try to be born again virgins. And I'm amazed by how some women, no matter how far they've let themselves go, expect guys do anything for a piece.
absolutely!

I think women are horrified by prostitution mainly because they view sex workers as union busters.
Or to put it another way, prostitutes dilute the market. ;)

Jan 156

03-29-10, 20:49

Kind of like Aussie men, then...
ROFL!

The difference with the Aussie Sheila is that she declares her obnoxious qualities up front. E.g. "I'm Australian, so I drink a lot and talk loud." (end qoute)

The American gal will spend a lot of time (and mental energy) trying to be a good or better girl before failing miserably and putting on a coy chocolate-box look to ask for your sympathy and forgiveness - and appreciation of how much she 'tried.' How sweet.

The good honest Sheila doesn't give a f*ck. She told you in advance so it's your bloody fault if you didn't like it.

;) ;) ;)

Westy

03-30-10, 03:31

I think women worldwide desire money and security. What sets a lot of American women apart is that they have such greater independence here and sexual politics in the workplace that approach affirmative action. Approach affirmative action? They are affirmative action, plus "political correctness, " hypersensitive touchstones of conduct, and frankly they approach "Thought Police" sanctions and control. Or maybe my FedGov career put me into the hottest part of that crucible.

I think a lot of women, regardless of ethnicity, reach a certain age and try to be born again virgins. And I'm amazed by how some women, no matter how far they've let themselves go, expect guys do anything for a piece. Are you sure you didn't mean "amazed by how many women"?

I think women are horrified by prostitution mainly because they view sex workers as union busters. Especially those women who have let themselves go. Bad enough their henpecked hubbies have that despised condition known as "wandering-eye syndrome; " if he could "rent" Miss Young & Yummy's "favors" for money he "should be spending on ME, " just imagine the rage!

As I look back over the Sixties and Seventies, and interpolate beyond my experience by looking at social history, I reach the conclusion that women's rage against men has been very thoroughly, very carefully inculcated into the fabric of American society. Just as "taking care of the family" is an inseparable part of Asian society, or the headscarf or even the burqa are the cultural norm of Southwest Asia.

The danger, and I count it a danger, for the American Man is that the society, the courts, the workplace, the media are all ganged up on the side of the American Woman. She's got the power, and she loves it. She sets the tune, she sets the pace, and if you want to dance you've got to please her. If you displease her, she can treat you as an unruly insect. Crawl or be crushed.

A little of that $#! + has been enough for me. I don't want to dance that dance. Take me where the different drummer plays a sweet samba.

Rubber Nursey

03-30-10, 12:03

The difference with the Aussie Sheila is that she declares her obnoxious qualities up front. E.g. "I'm Australian, so I drink a lot and talk loud." (end qoute)

The good honest Sheila doesn't give a f*ck. She told you in advance so it's your bloody fault if you didn't like it.
Hahahahaha! Soooo true. :)

Australiasucks

03-30-10, 12:46

The last time an Aussie Sheila was truly fun or an American woman was fun to be with, I believe Nixon was President, for an old fart, like me it does not seem a long time ago, but is way before some posters on this board were born.

Doctor_Skank

03-30-10, 15:10

...or an American woman was fun to be with, I believe Nixon was President, for an old fart, like me it does not seem a long time ago, but is way before some posters on this board were born.For me it was December 2009.

YMMV.

Never met an Aussie girl "up close and personal" AFAIR.

Gonna help me out RN? :)

Gentleman Travel

03-30-10, 20:34

i was (sadly) amused to read an interview this weekend with the female author (and relationship therapist) of her new book....

the male brain: a breakthrough in understanding how men and boys think

in the interview she starts out recounting a typical scene in her office...

"in my office, i often get couples that come in because their sexual life isn’t going well and they think it may have something to do with hormones. … i’ll turn to him and say, ‘john, how do you know mary loves you?’ and he’ll say, ‘because she wants to have sex with me.’ i’ll turn to her – her jaw’s on the ground by then – and say, ‘mary, how do you know john loves you?’ and she’ll say ‘because he wants to talk with me.’ "

so the wife discovers, for the first time, with the help of a pricey therapist, that her husband views sex as a fundamental aspect and positive reinforcement of their relationship! what did she think turned his crank - steamed vegetables every night? if her jaw is hanging down, i hope it is as an invitation to stick his cock in, now that she has finally got the message!!

at the same time she reiterates the female mantra about discussing things as the cornerstone to their relationship. so in all these years of talking, she never asked him, or he never told her that he like sex or thought it was important? more likely, he said it (and showed it) every chance he got, but guess what - she wasn't listening!

another amusing lack of basic understanding was revealed when i scanned some articles purporting to give advice to women on how to "keep your boyfriend/husband happy". there were dozens of internet columns, but most offered a variation on this "top 5" list:
1. compliment his good qualities...
2. listen to his complaints about his work...
3. surprise him with ticket to live theatre, concerts or sports events...
4. encourage him to spend time with his friends (this point is essentially about giving him permission to watch sports with his buddies, so long as he discusses it with you before and after)...
5. cook him a romantic dinner ("be sure to include his favourite beer or soda")

you got to love this list!
sex is not even in the top 5 ways girls are advised to please their men!!
i would be interested if a similar list by men had anything but sex in the top 5?
another list i saw recommended girls work on their make-up - proper use of eye shadow, manicures, etc.
most guys don't even realize a girl was wearing make-up until it gets messed up after a facial!

#5 "cook a romantic dinner" is a personal favourite of mine.
i like home cooking and i like romantic dinners.
but my wife used to do this every anniversary - make a big deal out of cooking an elaborate meal, which would take far too long and require far too much effort.
then she would be frazzled by the time we sat down to dinner and there was a huge mess in the kitchen to clean up afterwards.
so guess what got missed out on these special occasions? nookie!

a romantic meal without sex at the end has precisely the opposite effect on a guy.
it tells him his girl is all talk but no action or will do virtually anything to avoid sex.
a woman, trying to impress a man, who does not make herself the dessert course is certifiably insane.

i'd be interested in hearing the views of guys here about "top 5" ways women can keep their boyfriends/husbands happy....

Doctor_Skank

03-30-10, 21:14

1. Compliment his good qualities...
2. Listen to his complaints about his work...
3. Surprise him with ticket to live theatre, concerts or sports events...
4. Encourage him to spend time with his friends (this point is essentially about giving him permission to watch sports with his buddies, so long as he discusses it with you before and after)...
5. Cook him a romantic dinner ("be sure to include his favourite beer or soda")

You got to love this list!....Good post.

Actually I love all of those things but agree that they are secondary to other things like:

* sex
* leaving me the fuck alone when I want to be alone
* not nagging

And as far as the sex goes, I love the expression "lady on the street and tramp in bed". That's how I like the ladies.

Vaquero

03-31-10, 03:03

So I was on my express bus today, and I told a fellow passenger that eventually, if I happen to get married, I'll be sure to open a P.O. Box where I can send statements from a bank account she won't know exists.

"Well, that's a great way to start a partnership!" my fellow passenger replied. "Where's the trust in that?"

Well, there is none, buddy.

Other night I was on a plane and told a fellow passenger, a young banker, about the same plan.

"You'd be surprised just how many people do that."

A biz associate told me one of his exes opened a P.O. Box where she could send the bills for the credit card he didn't know existed.

Gentleman Travel

03-31-10, 15:33

Good post.

Actually I love all of those things but agree that they are secondary to other things like:

* sex
* leaving me the fuck alone when I want to be alone
* not nagging

And as far as the sex goes, I love the expression "lady on the street and tramp in bed". That's how I like the ladies.
Actually "not nagging" did make it on to some of the lists, and some concept of alone time. Remarkably, sex was absent.

Jan 156

03-31-10, 17:59

Although this is an American Women thread, I must confess that my experience of such ladies on their home ground is remarkably limited these days. I happily pay extra to fly to a destination without a U.S. stop-over. I would do the same with Australia if the choice were available. You have to deposit an arm and a leg just to pass go, navigate U.S. terrorism paranoia or Ozzi eco-paranoia, and then the prospect of getting a shag is raised to a level comparable to asking Richard Branson for a leather seat on his Virgin flight to the moon. London would be almost as bad were it not that you can get your bits seen to for £20 in Soho, or have a world-class orgy at LMP. Just make sure you don't smile too much - you don't want to be confused with foreigners or escaped mental asylum inmates.

America is a rather big country - if not quite as big as its inhabitants imagine it to be - and the women who escape are understandably of many different hues. I have sessioned in Scotland with the most wonderful, sensitive, sexy, gorgeous, intelligent GFE escort for £80. And also a most stereotypical, loudmouthed, conceited, racist pig of a woman for the same fee. Both were American. And I trust still are. What it more, they both spoke quite good English. Which is more than I can say for the average Londoner.*

Unfortunately Westminster considers common sense - and prostitution - evil. A few more governments on, and £20 will probably buy you a Big Mac. Or a Wendys.

*Who tends to speak Polish, Croatian, nothing at all, or 'cock-knee.' One or two though, to be fair, actually speak the language as it should be spoken, and can therefore be understood by anyone who has learnt English abroad.

Bango Cheito

03-31-10, 20:15

Australiasucks

03-31-10, 21:53

Australia is not an eco friendly country, the US was terrorist paranoid for the past several years but they are going more towards leftist causes under Barack Hussein Obama. If they were so paranoid, would they elect a guy with "Hussein" as his middle name.

Anyhow, I never found American women to be much fun. I had good times with Aussies during my youth but as time progressed things changed.

And on the subject of American women, its the modern contemporary American woman who is the object of our collective scorn, the one who watches Oprah, subscribes to a radical feminist philosophy. The TV program V has very strong feminist themes. Apparently in the final scene of one episode, Diana mates with male then kills him.

Chocha Monger

04-01-10, 05:45

American women are more open about it. Here in Colombia every girl tells you she wants a serious relationship with 2.3 kids and a picket fence and a little doggie... meanwhile they have 4 or 5 other guys hanging on.... and if they're under 25 they probably have a few GIRLS hanging on too...

Best bet... FUCK MARRIAGE, period. People are liars... whoever trusts is an idiot! And I repeat, monogamy is NOT a normal part of human nature anyway. Whoever expects it has his or her head in the clouds!
Sadly, that sums up the bottom line on marriage. A lot of my colleagues have been complaining that marriage was the worst contract they ever signed in their lives. They said that they fully expect this institution to die off since men are beginning to realize that there is nothing in for them at all. The only people campaigning to save marriage are women, divorce attorneys, and assorted religious nuts who make their living off the institution and its consequences.

Marriage is based on fantasy. Women lie to get men to enter into marriage and men spend the rest of their lives lying to survive it.

A few days ago I purchased a briefcase. The woman at the cash register dryly commented that the briefcase cost as much as a dining room table. I remember thinking that her husband must be one unhappy bastard. Here she was chastising a strange man for spending a lot of money that she clearly thought would be better spent on furniture.

Jon32

04-01-10, 07:57

http://thechive.com/2010/03/29/old-school-advertisements-that-are-oh-so-wrong-14-photos/

I thought the advertisments with the women was good for this thread...

What the hell happened in the last 50 years guys????

Australiasucks

04-01-10, 19:19

Something called the women's rights movement. Even in less feministic countries I doubt you would see advertisements like that. You would be kidding me if a company had ads like that and they would stay in business today.

DJ FourMoney

04-02-10, 03:45

Actually "not nagging" did make it on to some of the lists, and some concept of alone time. Remarkably, sex was absent.

Every time they do a poll or list sex is always absent. Its amazing, sad and frustrating at the same time.

Amazing because as was said the women's rights movement is vehemently against. Legal in one state but not in the most populated city and not in the touristy parts of town either. This is the "out of sight, out of mind" theory...

Sad because women still don't get it, after the woman's movement fractured, the side that says Women should re-learn how to love men, are shouted down in the media, another reason to seek alternative sources for news and information.

Its also sad because Madison Ave has gotten into the act, making men out to be brutish, stupid and sexually obsessed.

Frustrating because to get Grade A women you have to play the game by their rules. Come up short on that requirement and you're forced to go down to the minor leagues.

When NBA players don't quite make it or past their prime, they go overseas, play basketball and do fairly well financially/sexually.

I kind of look at it that way...

For you anti-marriage types, I don't know what to tell you. All it takes is finding a woman that desires to be married and not for financial gain. Listen to what they say, you can learn a surprising amount if you just listen to what they are saying.

Vaquero

04-02-10, 05:08

One thing I notice, especially after the Sex and and the City series, is how much women treasure their vibrators and see themselves as sexy sirens when they talk about them.

Take the other night. I stopped in a a neighborhood bar for karaoke night, and two black women were talking to some porky white dude about their buzz toys.

The better looking woman, in her 50s, said, "I don't need no man! I got a whole bag of toys at home!"

And I started laughing and explained that if a man was in a bar bragging about how much he loves the pocket pussy he ordered on-line, everyone would see him as depraved. "Oh, it's dishwasher friendly!"

D Cups

04-02-10, 16:58

Jon32

04-03-10, 17:47

Angus Magee

04-04-10, 09:17

I had to laugh at this one. A couple of dozen women marched in Portland, Maine to protest that topless women were treated differently than topless men. The result? A crew of several hundred male onlookers "ogling" the ladies.

WTF did they expect!!!

Ty McDowell, who organized the march, said she was "enraged" by the turnout of men attracted to the demonstration. The purpose, she said, was for society to have the same reaction to a woman walking around topless as it does to men without shirts on.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Women-march-topless-in-Portland-without-incident.html

But someone has to let these Portland guys in on the fact that for just a few hundred bucks (well maybe more than just a few hundred) they can fly to any number of destinations and ogle some gals who are really worth ogling.

And their ogles might also actually be appreciated over seas.

Westy

04-04-10, 14:07

I had to laugh at this one. A couple of dozen women marched in Portland, Maine to protest that topless women were treated differently than topless men. The result? A crew of several hundred male onlookers "ogling" the ladies.

WTF did they expect!

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Women-march-topless-in-Portland-without-incident.html

But someone has to let these Portland guys in on the fact that for just a few hundred bucks (well maybe more than just a few hundred) they can fly to any number of destinations and ogle some gals who are really worth ogling.

And their ogles might also actually be appreciated over seas.This would be hilarious if it weren't so infuriating. And it's the kind of game that many of us have come to expect from the SP "prison guards": Show off the goodies, then get pi**ed-off at the guy who takes a look at 'them!

And it's even less appealing when "the goodies" are so obviously past their "Best By" date.

For the sake of the future of the species, I hope this sort of "feminazi" behavior is based in genetics. Then it might be self-correcting, in time.

Australiasucks

04-04-10, 15:46

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Johnny Maldiva

04-05-10, 14:11

I had to laugh at this one. A couple of dozen women marched in Portland, Maine to protest that topless women were treated differently than topless men. The result? A crew of several hundred male onlookers "ogling" the ladies.

WTF did they expect!!!.Amen, brother! Women deserve respect in the same way a man does. Women get less than a man in some ways, but are treated better than men in other areas, so it evens out. Women's Rights activists are fighting a battle that doesn't even exist, as women will always be the sub to the man's dom. The man is more dominant physically and mentally, yet in modern day society the man is often taking up the sub role to make a happy household where women simply won't stand for a guy that does nothing for them.

Gentleman Travel

04-06-10, 17:09

Here are the top five ways for a woman to keep her man happy:

1. Get a boob job to a double D size cup
2. Give your man a blow job every morning when he wakes up and slurp and swallow it with a smile
3. Give your man a blow job, a good fuck and a long massage every night before he goes to sleep
4. Stop bitching
5. Don't talk so much

What do you think, gentlemen?
Mine would be slightly different, especially given my aversion to silicone...

Top 5 ways to please/keep a man...

1. Lots of sex please - daily at least.
2. More sex still - if he expects/asks for a teaspoon of sex give him a heaping tablespoon's worth!
3. Good morning blow-jobs - truly the breakfast of champion lovers. Plus it gets you through those "women's days".
4. Be creative - variety is the spice of live, keep it fresh by trying new things in bed. He wants it, but might be afraid to ask for it, thinking it will spook you.
5. Dress sexy - if he is not oogling you, then he is oogling someone else, like that sexy girl behind the cosmetics counter. He cannot actually have sex all the time, but that doesn't mean he isn't thinking about it all the time. Keep his attention where you want it.

Goga Fung

04-06-10, 19:31

Here are the top five ways for a woman to keep her man happy:

1. Get a boob job to a double the size cup

2. Give your man a blow job every morning when he wakes up and slurp and swallow it with a smile

3. Give your man a blow job, a good fuck and a long massage every night before he goes to sleep

4. Stop bitching

5. Don't talk so much

What do you think, gentlemen?Yeah, you on the right track

I would add another very important one:

6. Allow you fuck another woman whenever you feel you want to do it.

BTW believe it or not this stuff is very realistic. I have it pretty much right now.

Now I have one 24 year old GF who comes over to my apartment almost everyday, cooks, fucks(lots of great BJ, open to anything, etc.), cleans, laundry, etc.

I still have not idea what the hell she is after in this. She never asks for money or anything else. She got a good job herself.

For now I have only one guess. Here are around lots of other girls who look much better than her, so it is probably some kinda competition stuff. At the same time looks like she would be kinda ok if I cheat on her. As she would understand.

When she is at work, I date some other hotass chics. But I have to admit she kinda got me. I already dumped another GF and must postpone some parties with working girls. So her strategy and methods are actually working. One local friend told me that she is very smart.

She is also used to some weird or gross stuff. She told me she got a macho cousin who is married but openly dates other girls whoever he likes and does not hide it from anybody. And when he stops liking a girl he spits on her. Probably to make her leave him fast. Since some girls can be pain in the ass to get rid off.

Whatever it is bad or good, but it makes other girls appreciate good stuff.

Of course what I am talking about is not happening in "the land of the free and the home of the brave" or anything similar.

Today she could not come for long time, so no fuck happened, now she is sending SMSs apologizing for that. Is she really scared that if she does not fuck me, I will go fuck other girls? Probably yes. One my friend also told me his wife is trying to keep him "dry" to keep from other girls, but we still fuck some girls during day, but not too often.

Incredible shit compared to USA life style. But here it is pretty normal.