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CherchezFemme
04-08-10, 22:04
BMW costs more in its homeland. Because of quantity sales and price competition the car is cheaper in USA. Same for M-B and VW. GM is doing well in China because the Chinese dream of material Americanization and the cars are unique status symbols. It won't last because German auto makers will reduce pricing and they already have the quality and safety advantageous over GM automobiles. Imagine a 5'4" Chinese man needing a ladder to get into his Hummer or obese short US man driving his penis extender Hummer. LOL, lol.
Stop your sidetracking boring other members.
One of the funniest things I've ever seen was on Newbury St. in Boston : a 5'3 or 5'4 Russian guy, 130 lbs max, having to jump out of his banana yellow Hummer H2 in order to get out. The contrast between this little man and his enormous SUV was hilarious. Talk about overcompensating
scandinavian women have a reputation for being ultra feminists, requiring male partners to sit on toilets to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), etc.
lol, omg, don't believe a word of it. it's blown out of proportion with above quote and their feminist wants. i will say though go into any copenhagen movie theater (f.ex. dagmar) mens toilet just before the film starts and you will see females using the mens stalls because the womens toilet line is so long. happened to me hundreds of times in the years i lived there. you're standing at the long, horizontal steel urinal for 3-4 guys and you see a female go by. they never look at what you think they would. it's accepted. guys never say a word. i've washed my hands afterwards at the sink next to a woman at the next sink. never a word is exchanged even though i've looked at her to see if something can be said.
never in a million yrs. would an aw use the mens toilet. i can imagine what some guys might say to her.
One of the funniest things I've ever seen was on Newbury St. in Boston : a 5'3 or 5'4 Russian guy, 130 lbs max, having to jump out of his banana yellow Hummer H2 in order to get out. The contrast between this little man and his enormous SUV was hilarious. Talk about overcompensating
I've seen several AW jumping out of Caddy Escalades. Why do they have to drive those minitanks and why do their husbands permit their purchase just to drop off and pick up at elementary schools? I've seen 50-100 minitanks on line idling at schools for 15-30 minutes. They are not safer than a good 4-dr. sedan with 6 airbags.
Doctor_Skank
04-09-10, 13:14
Never in a million yrs. would an AW use the mens toilet. I can imagine what some guys might say to her.Seen it happen at clubs.
i think knocking down only american women is kind of inaccurate, western women in general are bad. tiger woods' spouse nearly killed him with her 4x4 for the crime of cheating on him, she is a swede.i live in sweden and there are no jokes about that event or the participants here. sometimes the newspapers rewrite a story from an american source about new affairs of tiger's but that's about it. what has been completely absent from any reports is any form of discussion about if her reaction was appropiate. it is generally understood that she did no wrong and could have done no wrong. furthermore, there is hardly any mention about tiger's children missing their dad even though males are always expected to do exactly half of the tasks you would normally associate with mothers. that includes paternity leave amounting to the exact number of days the mother took maternity leave. there are ongoing discussions about why males "only" use 27% of available parental leave days...
scandinavian women have a reputation for being ultra feminists, requiring male partners to sit on toilets to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), etc.
scandinavian women, especially norwegians and swedes, are ultra feminists but it is the german women who most want men to sit to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).
Australiasucks
04-09-10, 21:21
I have seen quite a few attractive Scandinavian women, in Australia, many Norwegians study in Australia and then go back to their country. They are quite attractive. I have seen Danish girls as well but they both seem a lot more assertive than even Aussie women. Attractive yes, but not sure if they would make me happy.
I've just had a very interesting e-mail conversation with a Black AW. She used to be a BBBW and is now a BBW, after losing 50 pounds, and charges $350/hr or $400/hr for her services. Anyhow she made a comment on one of our local adult boards that she had recently moved to Atlanta and was NOT getting any business calls. I emailed her to tell her that her rates were too high for the Atlanta market. I also informed her, Black AW providers were a dime a dozen in Atlanta with many charging $40 for 15 minutes, $60-$80/hh and a few charging $150-200/hr. Her reply to me: She did not see mediocre clients, and was not willing to adjust her rates and would rather END all advertising in the Atlanta market. My reply: Good luck getting food on your table!
Question: What kind of American guys are these women seeing to make them feel so special? I've said it once and I'll say it again - American men only have themselves to blame for these monsters they have created.
Doctor_Skank
04-09-10, 23:34
Question: What kind of American guys are these women seeing to make them feel so special? I've said it once and I'll say it again - American men only have themselves to blame for these monsters they have created.I honestly don't know and can't imagine anybody paying to fuck those pigs. But obviously somebody does now and then, they stay in business.
You can't blame a girl for charging high prices if she gets it, even if it is ridiculous.
Chocha Monger
04-10-10, 01:40
Some guys are seeking something that does not exist. They are seeking a woman who can live in the United States or similar country and be content with her lot. The sad truth is that women are never truly content, like a black whole they will consume anything that comes under their gravitational pull and demand more and more. The solution to the problem with women is to avoid becoming legally entangled with them in any shape or form.
Make money and women will come. You will not have to pursue them. They will come. They all seek financial security like a moth to a flame. When they do come you can have sex with them under your terms; that means no engagement, no marriage and absolutely no children. The key to winning any game is to hold all of the key pieces. When dealing with women this means holding the money, your single status and DNA.
If you try to make an old institution like marriage work in a cold new millennium you’re going to get fucked in the ass! And guess what? You deserve it after knowing the facts and still choosing to get legally involved with a woman based on her word or some foolish notion that she is somehow different from “the others.” In all negotiations one must negotiate from a position of strength. Marriage and/or children move that position of strength into the woman’s court. Everything you do after that will be a reaction to her moves. Remain noncommittal and grant limited financial concessions. Don’t ever give up your freedom. Would you surrender to terrorists then attempt to negotiate your release or the terms of your captivity?
I honestly don't know and can't imagine anybody paying to fuck those pigs. But obviously somebody does now and then, they stay in business.
You can't blame a girl for charging high prices if she gets it, even if it is ridiculous. Dr. S - you are so right. Only ourselves to blame for the madness.
But.. consider this: Our particular form of government / society (in America) has been going on for almost 234 years. I can't think of many countries off the top of my head where there has not been some sort of social upheaval, regime change, revolution or some such other control/alt/delete action. Since we have not had any sort of real reset of society at large, we have been forced to suffer the natural evolution of this social order.
American men are, for the most part, a fraction of their (our) former selves when you consider our rugged individualism a few short hundred years ago. This thread is titled "American Women" but maybe we should just rename it "Americans" because as you so succinctly point out, the problem is not just the women, it's us guys as well. It's us guys for letting it happen.
Some would argue that that's a good thing in that it shows that we have evolved on a social level. Male Chauvinist Pigs (MCP) like me would say we have pretty much lost it. While many (if not most) of us on this board can claim to have enjoyed the opportunity to compare the attitudes of other cultures (with respect to sex) most of our American brothers must just make do with whatever their lot in life dictates. If you don't know any better, you just suck it up and deal with it as it happens. In America, the status quo has become, "capitulate to the feminist hordes" or risk being branded like Tiger Woods.
Here's my point (yes, I do have a point) - those of us who can enjoy Devushkas, Chicas, Garrotas, etc from other countries are blessed. We have been given the gift of perspective. We have experienced what most of our American brethren can only dream of. Rather than berate the lunacy of the crap that AW demand, offer a silent prayer to whatever higher power you worship for having been given the opportunity to experience the delight of non-American (or Canadian or British or Australian or Kiwi) pussy.
Our neighbors, work colleagues, fellow citizens just stagger forward not knowing that there is any other way for their women to think. They have accepted the "sexual jail" that has become so uniquely Western.
BTW - I'm typing this from the airport lounge on the way to China. I have swilled about a half gallon of scotch so I ask that I not be judged too harshly for the audacity of my alcohol soaked words.
Do have the answer? Fuck no. Am I thankful for being able to sow wild oats overseas? Fuck yes.
I wonder, guys, if the life of a man in USA is as bad as you have wrote.
I have heard terrible things about feminist laws in USA, for example they can call police if you touch a girl sexually without asking her permission (while dancing closely in a club for example), or that in clubs and bars there is always a few girls surrounded by crowds of men. It is not similiar to Sex and the City series, why?
But I doubt this for one simple reason.
I have heard the same conversation from Russian men in our forums for a number of times. Yes, Russian guys say exactly the things you say: all women want not sex, but money and stability, all of them are bitches, they never be initiative and never approach man first etc. Whats the difference?
Probably, the answer is that you can find this behaviour in all the countries of the world. And, from other hand, you can find another behaviour almost anywhere. You can find girls who like sex, like men, who make fun with this. You just have to look much. Spend a pleny of time.
It was USA where all that seduction communities emerged and probably that American guys are not just liers. So, I wonder, is it really hard to get a light, not obligatory relationship in USA and other Western countries? Using dating sites or in a night club.
So, I don't think you should envy to those of your friends who can live in that wonderful (and indeterminate) "good-for-men-countries". Its all the same. Check any Russian dating site. Most of the girls want serious relationship, try a date with them. You will be considered a person who pays, start a relationship. And you will see that the role of a man is similiar everywhere. Spend time to search or money to buy, anyway.
I wonder, guys, if the life of a man in USA is as bad as you have wrote.
I have heard terrible things about feminist laws in USA, for example they can call police if you touch a girl sexually without asking her permission (while dancing closely in a club for example), or that in clubs and bars there is always a few girls surrounded by crowds of men. It is not similiar to Sex and the City series, why?
But I doubt this for one simple reason.
I have heard the same conversation from Russian men in our forums for a number of times. Yes, Russian guys say exactly the things you say: all women want not sex, but money and stability, all of them are bitches, they never be initiative and never approach man first etc. Whats the difference?
Probably, the answer is that you can find this behaviour in all the countries of the world. And, from other hand, you can find another behaviour almost anywhere. You can find girls who like sex, like men, who make fun with this. You just have to look much. Spend a pleny of time.
It was USA where all that seduction communities emerged and probably that American guys are not just liers. So, I wonder, is it really hard to get a light, not obligatory relationship in USA and other Western countries? Using dating sites or in a night club.
So, I don't think you should envy to those of your friends who can live in that wonderful (and indeterminate) "good-for-men-countries". Its all the same. Check any Russian dating site. Most of the girls want serious relationship, try a date with them. You will be considered a person who pays, start a relationship. And you will see that the role of a man is similiar everywhere. Spend time to search or money to buy, anyway.
I know a retired NYC cop who spent his whole career in Brooklyn, so I asked if he had any good stories. "Not really" he said. Asked him if working on the Force was like "Law and Order," "NYPD Blue," or "New York Undercover," he quickly said "nope more like Barney Miller!"
So to answer your question is AW's behavior in the USA like "Sex in the City?" Absolutely! The show and many others are patterned after the behavior of women in NYC. Not the opposite! Women have flocked to this city with the intention of living out the SITC dream. Meeting Mr.Big in a limo while dating the new Yankee as you strut around town lookin down on men. Trying to figure out if they should be a pretentious Uptown socialista or downtown hipster is not the sort of reality I want to be a part of or can afford.
You really can't blame them. Where else in the world can women meet lottery tickets in the form of celebritys, athletes, rich politicians, businessman, Wall streeters, and interact with them on the street, in the club, hotels, P.R. functions, etc. Women are alike everywhere, but tend to lose their class, grace, wit, and charm very quickly here. I don't begrudge them for getting their little thirsty for a $$$ dolla hustle on, but sometimes the disrepect has to be put in check if possible. In Russia I doubt thats a problem.
On a side note; I had the pleaure of unknowingly meeting Kim Cattrall once in an elevator a few years back. Really cool chick who looks alot prettier and younger in person. Now when I see her on TV I kick myself - hard. Or slap my head a few times.
Where else in the world can women meet lottery tickets in the form of celebritys, athletes, rich politicians, businessman, Wall streeters, and interact with them on the street, in the club, hotels, P. R. Functions, etc.I can tell you: in every capital. The description of "rich man" differs from country to country, but the idea is everywhere the same: the most interesting men live in the capitals. But ask an average AW if she has ever dated a superstar, millioner or NBA player, what she will answer? Probably, there are not so many Tom Cruses in New York. And if women can like even "downtown hipsters", usual guys should have not problems with them.
I wonder, guys, if the life of a man in USA is as bad as you have wrote.
I have heard terrible things about feminist laws in USA, for example they can call police if you touch a girl sexually without asking her permission (while dancing closely in a club for example), or that in clubs and bars there is always a few girls surrounded by crowds of men. It is not similiar to Sex and the City series, why?
But I doubt this for one simple reason.
I have heard the same conversation from Russian men in our forums for a number of times. Yes, Russian guys say exactly the things you say: all women want not sex, but money and stability, all of them are bitches, they never be initiative and never approach man first etc. Whats the difference?
Probably, the answer is that you can find this behaviour in all the countries of the world. And, from other hand, you can find another behaviour almost anywhere. You can find girls who like sex, like men, who make fun with this. You just have to look much. Spend a pleny of time.
It was USA where all that seduction communities emerged and probably that American guys are not just liers. So, I wonder, is it really hard to get a light, not obligatory relationship in USA and other Western countries? Using dating sites or in a night club.
So, I don't think you should envy to those of your friends who can live in that wonderful (and indeterminate) "good-for-men-countries". Its all the same. Check any Russian dating site. Most of the girls want serious relationship, try a date with them. You will be considered a person who pays, start a relationship. And you will see that the role of a man is similiar everywhere. Spend time to search or money to buy, anyway.I have been saying this for years on this forum that women are the same. The only thing that changes the equation is money.
Australiasucks
04-12-10, 15:30
You generally have to be suspicious of females in general, I was recently hit on by a 20 something, I am in my 40s, why heck would a woman old enough to be my daughter want to have a relationship? Although one part of me would like to plow her doggie style the other part of me was suspicious. I found out she has some serious financial problems and wants to go to a university and apparently sees me as some kind of cash machine. And she is an Aussie female of Asian origin. I went through a nasty divorce a few years ago, was recently denied visitation rights to my son, very nervous about getting into a serious relationship with any woman right now.
I know a retired NYC cop who spent his whole career in Brooklyn, so I asked if he had any good stories. "Not really" he said. Asked him if working on the Force was like "Law and Order," "NYPD Blue," or "New York Undercover," he quickly said "nope more like Barney Miller!"
So to answer your question is AW's behavior in the USA like "Sex in the City?" Absolutely! The show and many others are patterned after the behavior of women in NYC. Not the opposite! Women have flocked to this city with the intention of living out the SITC dream. Meeting Mr.Big in a limo while dating the new Yankee as you strut around town lookin down on men. Trying to figure out if they should be a pretentious Uptown socialista or downtown hipster is not the sort of reality I want to be a part of or can afford.
You really can't blame them. Where else in the world can women meet lottery tickets in the form of celebritys, athletes, rich politicians, businessman, Wall streeters, and interact with them on the street, in the club, hotels, P.R. functions, etc. Women are alike everywhere, but tend to lose their class, grace, wit, and charm very quickly here. I don't begrudge them for getting their little thirsty for a $$$ dolla hustle on, but sometimes the disrepect has to be put in check if possible. In Russia I doubt thats a problem.
On a side note; I had the pleaure of unknowingly meeting Kim Cattrall once in an elevator a few years back. Really cool chick who looks alot prettier and younger in person. Now when I see her on TV I kick myself - hard. Or slap my head a few times.
I agree. I am a native new yorker myself. You NEED a few things going for you in new york. It doesn't always take money but in those cases you need PULL such as a strong "hip" social circle. The lone guy going out to a bar to score may do so but it takes a certain type.
I'm old school NY. I used to meet cool people all the time in clubs or just hanging out in parks and on the street. A true NYer is very welcoming to *anybody that is comfortable with themselves.
The crowd is different now and so are the drink prices and rules. I don't think it's worth my time anymore since I started traveling.
Bango Cheito
04-13-10, 00:51
NYC in the past 15 years has lost EVERYTHING that made it special... that's why I'm here now in Bogota... much of the old NY flavor has wound up here for some reason...
it's true that human nature is the same everywhere and Venus is almost always "unredeemed" wherever you go... but the numbers are better in some places than others....
What I like about here is that in the US, money is king. A bald fat uneducated poorly dressed uncultured slob with money will kill all in terms of getting pussy. Here, it's all about physical appearance more than anything else, TOTALLY CONTRARY to popular opinion of Colombian women. It may be shallow and superficial but at least it helps promote that you take care of yourself physically and mentally instead of working your ass off and letting your health go to shit!
Chocha Monger
04-13-10, 02:26
I have been saying this for years on this forum that women are the same. The only thing that changes the equation is money.
Quite true! No matter where you go you’d better have some money if you’re looking for love. Women want money, security and social status. Any man refusing to accept the obvious will face a lifetime of pain and disappointments in search of the mythical altruistic woman who loves him for himself and nothing more. Traveling or becoming an expat is really nothing more than moving to a mate market where the price of entry is substantially lower. However, that being said, if you’re dirt poor and financially broken in your home country then don’t expect to have raving success abroad. An American passport can only go so far. If you’re rubbing pennies the foreign women may figure they can do well living in poverty by themselves without having to care for you too. A poor American can be a source of amusement abroad when that person cannot live up to the glory and wealth assumed when their passport is presented.
If you’re not willing to support a woman and cater to her whims then you should forget about any kind of serious involvement with women. Women are looking for a provider who is willing to sacrifice himself and his earnings for their and their offspring’s good.
Quite true! No matter where you go you’d better have some money if you’re looking for love. Women want money, security and social status. Any man refusing to accept the obvious will face a lifetime of pain and disappointments in search of the mythical altruistic woman who loves him for himself and nothing more. Traveling or becoming an expat is really nothing more than moving to a mate market where the price of entry is substantially lower. .That's in theory. But in reality it is different. The product quality(looks, size), culture and traditions/behaviors are different in different places.
What you can find in other countries is almost impossible to find in USA, no matter how much money you wanna spend. More likely they(women) will separate you from your money in USA, and you will still end up with nothing good.
Another problem is that in USA, since everybody is "equal" and all kinds of sexual harrasment rules, the women do not have any incentive to become better, they are actually becoming worse.
In many other places there is obvious competition among women, so they are trying hard to look better and perform better. Beautiful girls are taught to cook, to take care of the house, etc.. It is norm for them, not a problem at all. Even many girls here do not mind if you cheat on them, as long as you provide for the family and do not tell them that you are cheating.
You cannot simply buy this kinda thing in modern USA/WesternWorld. It is not available in general since you cannot force them do what is not natural for them.
Gentleman Travel
04-13-10, 19:00
You generally have to be suspicious of females in general, I was recently hit on by a 20 something, I am in my 40s, why heck would a woman old enough to be my daughter want to have a relationship? Although one part of me would like to plow her doggie style the other part of me was suspicious. I found out she has some serious financial problems and wants to go to a university and apparently sees me as some kind of cash machine. And she is an Aussie female of Asian origin.
That sounds like it could be a good deal!
Getting a young frisky coed who wants someone to sponsor her through college.
The only fundamental moral question is how much do you have to spend?
If she is doing the fishing it is going to be cheaper than if you were out there searching for a sponsored mistress.
Get into negotiations - obviously it will be easy for you to walk, which is always the best bargaining position.
Women want money, security and social status. (They) are looking for a provider who is willing to sacrifice himself and his earnings for their and their offspring’s good.This truth hurts, but it is rational and frankly pro-survival. The biological imperative of sex is to create offspring, isn't it? Raising a child is tough, and a "good provider" means a better chance for the family. It makes good sense for the woman to hold out for the best provider, and to hold off long enough to forge a strong "pair-bond" so the guy won't up-and-leave after Junior shows up to ruin the fun.
But I'm not interested in raising a family, I'm interested in having fun with a girl who I find attractive, and I accept that it's gonna cost me "cash at the counterpane." I believe that's what draws us to this board: finding out where we can bang the best for our bucks.
American women have taken "The Man Must Sacrifice" to an extreme. A couple of weeks ago, "Stickman Weekly" posted an article about "Dating In The West" (http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ReadersSubmissions2010/reader5844.htm) that documents some of the horrid details observed by its writer. From my perspective, it doesn't look much exaggerated.
I would rather go offshore in search of my share of poontang; go someplace where a mature man is more attractive for his maturity, and an income modest by USA standards is substantially affluent on the local economy. As a fisherman might put it, "why not fish where the fish are biting?"
You generally have to be suspicious of females in general, I was recently hit on by a 20 something, I am in my 40s, why heck would a woman old enough to be my daughter want to have a relationship? Although one part of me would like to plow her doggie style the other part of me was suspicious. I found out she has some serious financial problems and wants to go to a university and apparently sees me as some kind of cash machine. And she is an Aussie female of Asian origin. I went through a nasty divorce a few years ago, was recently denied visitation rights to my son, very nervous about getting into a serious relationship with any woman right now.
Years ago I met an attractive, personable, light-skinned Vanessa Williams lookalike with a phat-ass at work who I decided to ask out. Luckily I brought my intentions up with a co-worker who warned me against doing just that. Turns out the girl had a 60-year old sugar daddy pick her up every day from work in a limo, in addition to flowers and candies sent to her on a daily basis. Last I talked to her she was leaving the job to get her MBA from Wharton School of Business.
Gentleman Travel
04-15-10, 16:41
Interesting article in the Economist about the gender imbalance in the US caused by the high rate of incarceration of black males.
Sex and the single black woman
How the mass incarceration of black men hurts black women
Apr 8th 2010 | From The Economist print edition
IMAGINE that the world consists of 20 men and 20 women, all of them heterosexual and in search of a mate. Since the numbers are even, everyone can find a partner. But what happens if you take away one man?
... So she ups her game. Perhaps she dresses more seductively. Perhaps she makes an extra effort to be obliging. Somehow or other, she “steals” a man from one of her fellow women. That newly single woman then ups her game, too, to steal a man from someone else. A chain reaction ensues. Before long, every woman has to try harder, and every man can relax a little.
Real life is more complicated, of course, but this simple model illustrates an important truth. In the marriage market, numbers matter. And among African-Americans, the disparity is much worse than in Mr Harford’s imaginary example. Between the ages of 20 and 29, one black man in nine is behind bars. For black women of the same age, the figure is about one in 150. For obvious reasons, convicts are excluded from the dating pool. And many women also steer clear of ex-cons, which makes a big difference when one young black man in three can expect to be locked up at some point.
Removing so many men from the marriage market has profound consequences...
Couple this with the fact (discussed here a few months ago) that many more women are going to college than men - a trend which I think is even more disproportionate amongst blacks (I saw a quote somewhere about black families putting priority on their daughters education becuase, "black girls go to college, and the boys go to jail") - and you get a quite a large pool of black women chasing a declining number of "eligible" black men. Could make for happy hunting for our American brothers!
Overall this situation starts to look like the situation in Russia - with a major sex imbalance. The article also argues that this has or will cause attitude changes - the girls "uping their game" to better attract a mate. I guess it is too much to hope that these more sexual traits will spill over into white women's culture? But unfortunately, black American girls suffer from some different environmental factors - like a fast food diet and lack of exercise - that make FSU girls worth pursuing.
Even with the shortage of eligible Black American males, you still have most of your lower class "ghetto" bitches walking around like their asses don't stink. IMHO, low class Black American women are some of the nastiest women you'll find anywhere on this planet. Unfortunately when some of these ghetto bitches go on to get educated, they can never quite get rid of that ghetto mentality. Most highly educated professional Black women, such as Lawyers, Doctors, Teachers, Engineers etc end up marrying guys who are less educated. The key is finding one who is not a crazy *****, good luck your odds are about <1 in 10.
Interesting article in the Economist about the gender imbalance in the US caused by the high rate of incarceration of black males.
Couple this with the fact (discussed here a few months ago) that many more women are going to college than men - a trend which I think is even more disproportionate amongst blacks (I saw a quote somewhere about black families putting priority on their daughters education becuase, "black girls go to college, and the boys go to jail") - and you get a quite a large pool of black women chasing a declining number of "eligible" black men. Could make for happy hunting for our American brothers!
Overall this situation starts to look like the situation in Russia - with a major sex imbalance. The article also argues that this has or will cause attitude changes - the girls "uping their game" to better attract a mate. I guess it is too much to hope that these more sexual traits will spill over into white women's culture? But unfortunately, black American girls suffer from some different environmental factors - like a fast food diet and lack of exercise - that make FSU girls worth pursuing.
I've had a few black girlfriends. I'm ghost white by the way.
I'd say when it comes to romance and finance, black women may be a little more direct. They'll just come out and ask you for cash. There's a certain admirable quality to that.
And they might be more willing to settle for short-term gains in that regard.
Meanwhile, a white girl will judge you and do a deeper analysis, probably Excel spreadsheets, before she decides to pony up some tail.
I used to think black women were all better in the sack. Some yes, but some no. They do have better asses.
Meanwhile, a white girl will judge you and do a deeper analysis, probably Excel spreadsheets, before she decides to pony up some tail.
Not necessarily, I've met some White girls who have pony'd up some tail in no time flat, IF they like you. It's been my experience that it's often easier to bed White gals than Black American chicks. White women have no time for BS. Black gals will give you the run round at first, but if they see $$$$$ signs they jump in head first pretty quick.
Australiasucks
04-18-10, 04:09
So what difference does it make if an American woman is black, white, yellow, or brown. Its whats between their ears that matters not what they appear on the outside.
So what difference does it make if an American woman is black, white, yellow, or brown. Its whats between their ears that matters not what they appear on the outside.That's right, it is not about the color. A few days ago in Uzbekiston I saw a TV program about "money". They said that money themselves do not make people bad. Money only help some people release their bad traits, which they would normally hide. So the same is for women. No matter what color, if they have bad traits, places such as USA might help them come out. And you cannot deal with it. You can only change the place or you need to change the whole country, it's politics, laws, economics, traditions, etc.
So what difference does it make if an American woman is black, white, yellow, or brown. Its whats between their ears that matters not what they appear on the outside.
Oh really, cultural differences and different life experiences mean nothing 'eh.
Australiasucks
04-19-10, 13:48
Cultural differences do matter but when you get down to it, women who live in Western societies, regardless of their ethnic origins tend to be influenced by one kind of culture. Oprah seems to reach out to women of all backgrounds in America, she seems to have a strong feminist agenda.
Tell me, if your father was shacking up with a third-world girl substantially younger than him, and she was pushing him for marriage and digging into him financially, and then he died unexpectedly, should you feel obligated to give her something even if the old man didn't spell it out in a will?
I kind of think if this broad had succeeded in pushing him into marriage, then she might not be so generous with the tables shifted.
Chocha Monger
04-23-10, 10:34
Interesting article in the Economist about the gender imbalance in the US caused by the high rate of incarceration of black males.
Couple this with the fact (discussed here a few months ago) that many more women are going to college than men - a trend which I think is even more disproportionate amongst blacks (I saw a quote somewhere about black families putting priority on their daughters education becuase, "black girls go to college, and the boys go to jail") - and you get a quite a large pool of black women chasing a declining number of "eligible" black men. Could make for happy hunting for our American brothers!
Overall this situation starts to look like the situation in Russia - with a major sex imbalance. The article also argues that this has or will cause attitude changes - the girls "uping their game" to better attract a mate. I guess it is too much to hope that these more sexual traits will spill over into white women's culture? But unfortunately, black American girls suffer from some different environmental factors - like a fast food diet and lack of exercise - that make FSU girls worth pursuing.
Don’t believe everything you read. There are a lot of handsome young college educated black men out there without a criminal record who have difficulty finding a suitable American woman for a mate. I know several of them. One recently found himself a Costa Rican virgin for a wife after spending years chasing black college girls who were more interested in trying to fuck rappers on spring break or finding a sugar-daddy. Like the article says, real life is complicated. A college education isn’t the only trait that men look for in a wife so having one doesn’t necessarily make a black woman any more desirable. A degree usually means little more than an extremely high likelihood that the woman is bringing a huge shitload of credit card and student loan debt into the marriage.
The black women out there wringing their hands about not being able to find a suitable husband, more often than not, are not the kind of women that you would like to marry. These women refuse to look at themselves and blame their situation on everything from mass incarceration to homosexuality among black males. Black men in college will tell you that they appear invisible to black women until they start dating a white, Asian or Hispanic girl. Then they get plenty of evil stares and hateful comments. The truth is that black American women set their goals for a sucker unrealistically high. They want handsome, rich, young, powerful, intelligent, sexually prow and domesticated in one neat convenient package like an iPhone with all its apps. Ironically, even when black men meet all of their criteria they tend to avoid these high expectation women.
Chocha Monger
04-23-10, 10:44
Tell me, if your father was shacking up with a third-world girl substantially younger than him, and she was pushing him for marriage and digging into him financially, and then he died unexpectedly, should you feel obligated to give her something even if the old man didn't spell it out in a will?
I kind of think if this broad had succeeded in pushing him into marriage, then she might not be so generous with the tables shifted.
The simple answer is no. You should not feel obligated to give her jack shit! If your old man wanted her to have something he would have at least mentioned it. He didn’t mention it and certainly did not put pen to paper. That makes it abundantly clear that he was just enjoying some young gold digger pussy with no intentions of ever handing over his assets. She had her fun leeching the old codger while he was alive. Let her move on and find another target but please don’t reward her behavior.
I'm a white dude, but my brother was college dorm roommates with a black dude who has everything going for him. He's an engineer with a good job, religious, doesn't smoke or drink and had a former Navy dad. Well read and into martial arts.
Anyway, he had a hang up in that he would only date black women, something about community unity. But he had trouble finding a good one, as we all do, regardless of color.
So then he had a serious deal with a black chick who spent a lot of time with his mother and all that. But this girl had a secret box that she was careful that he never get into, and that made him naturally inquisitive.
Some problems started to emerge in the relationship, so he picked the lock on the box.
The shit was crazy. Basically, he discovered she was still corresponding with an ex-boyfriend who was imprisoned, and she told this inmate that she was only dating our chump friend until he got released.
That pissed my buddy off well enough. But then he also discovered that the girl had been "borrowing" money from his mother during her terminal illness.
A couple years ago, my dad did make mention of leaving her some cash. This was when she was pushing him into marriage.
But I guess the way I look at it is if he wholly supported her and her kid for six years, that's a good inheritance for her. This could make me a bastard, I know.
So true! I've dated a few Black AW in my day, completely crazy bitches IMHO. Here's one example.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Mf_7QXaEU
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1245296/Spurned-mistress-YaVaughnie-Wilkins-takes-revenge-Charles-E-Phillips-plastering-U-S-cities-compromising-posters.html
Don’t believe everything you read. There are a lot of handsome young college educated black men out there without a criminal record who have difficulty finding a suitable American woman for a mate. I know several of them. One recently found himself a Costa Rican virgin for a wife after spending years chasing black college girls who were more interested in trying to fuck rappers on spring break or finding a sugar-daddy. Like the article says, real life is complicated. A college education isn’t the only trait that men look for in a wife so having one doesn’t necessarily make a black woman any more desirable. A degree usually means little more than an extremely high likelihood that the woman is bringing a huge shitload of credit card and student loan debt into the marriage.
The black women out there wringing their hands about not being able to find a suitable husband, more often than not, are not the kind of women that you would like to marry. These women refuse to look at themselves and blame their situation on everything from mass incarceration to homosexuality among black males. Black men in college will tell you that they appear invisible to black women until they start dating a white, Asian or Hispanic girl. Then they get plenty of evil stares and hateful comments. The truth is that black American women set their goals for a sucker unrealistically high. They want handsome, rich, young, powerful, intelligent, sexually prow and domesticated in one neat convenient package like an iPhone with all its apps. Ironically, even when black men meet all of their criteria they tend to avoid these high expectation women.
Oh Ya Papi
04-24-10, 01:49
brilliant post! right on with the knowledge.!!! thanks :)
Don’t believe everything you read. There are a lot of handsome young college educated black men out there without a criminal record who have difficulty finding a suitable American woman for a mate. I know several of them. One recently found himself a Costa Rican virgin for a wife after spending years chasing black college girls who were more interested in trying to fuck rappers on spring break or finding a sugar-daddy. Like the article says, real life is complicated. A college education isn’t the only trait that men look for in a wife so having one doesn’t necessarily make a black woman any more desirable. A degree usually means little more than an extremely high likelihood that the woman is bringing a huge shitload of credit card and student loan debt into the marriage.
The black women out there wringing their hands about not being able to find a suitable husband, more often than not, are not the kind of women that you would like to marry. These women refuse to look at themselves and blame their situation on everything from mass incarceration to homosexuality among black males. Black men in college will tell you that they appear invisible to black women until they start dating a white, Asian or Hispanic girl. Then they get plenty of evil stares and hateful comments. The truth is that black American women set their goals for a sucker unrealistically high. They want handsome, rich, young, powerful, intelligent, sexually prow and domesticated in one neat convenient package like an iPhone with all its apps. Ironically, even when black men meet all of their criteria they tend to avoid these high expectation women.
What follows is NOT a reflection of conditions in my own current marriage; but a compilation of data from my own first marriage plus the experiences of several men who cheated on their wives who have spoken with me at great length about their motivations over the years.
I do not believe all appreciation for the providers is a function of age and the man's inferior sex appeal per-se. Rather, it is a function of experience.
Most married men, I believe, if they had a better home life, would not cheat. Obviously, some would no matter what. But most wouldn't. Most men find self-value in adhering to promises, meeting responsibilities, etc.
But there is an absolute epidemic out there of wives failing to provide for the most basic of a husband's needs: appreciation, acceptance, approval and physically demonstrable affection. Men are nagged endlessly, treated as accessories and disposable gateways to a lifestyle, disrespected and talked down to, (even in public) etc.
Their wives try to force husbands to be more feminine; turn them into girlfriends and shrinks, and then stop finding them attractive when they comply. The list is endless. (Not all marriages are like this. I'm talking about those of a large proportion of men who end up cheating.)
It is not at all unusual for wives to treat their pets or total strangers with higher regard than the husbands who provide for them. These men are exposed to endless emotional and psychological ABUSE day-in and day-out. They take it out of misplaced loyalty, for the sake of kids (who really shouldn't grow up learning that men should be treated that way), because their wives have destroyed their self-esteem, a biased legal system, etc.
Your average woman wouldn't take even a tenth of the abuse that men do these days.
When their self-centered, self-important and scandalously selfish wives concede to sex; it is often taken care of with about as much ardor as taking a shit.
The double standards in the home are breathtaking; and the manipulation is endless. If he doesn't let her go spend a day at the spa with the girls, he is being "controlling;" but if he wants to go spend Saturday down at the golf course, "he doesn't love her."
These men are absolutely STARVED for acceptance, basic respectful treatment, physically demonstrated affection and to just plain be treated fairly like normally-valued HUMAN BEINGS. They want an outlet where they can express their primal manhood without being treated as though they are an icky pariah barely deserving of drawing breath.
A provider, albeit for a fee, treats her client with normal human respect and dignity; accepts him as he is, gives him tacit approval to be a man in an environment free from "gotchas" and makes love to him enthusiastically. Like she means it. (Even if she doesn't. The man will suspend disbelief. Though -- maybe I am a bit naive -- I really DO think some providers really mean it. How they manage it, I don't know.)
Of COURSE he is appreciative. He is as appreciative as a starving man placed in front of a plate of spaghetti.
But it isn't just the sex that makes them appreciative. It is the ATTITUDE. Giving a man a great buildup and one hellatious orgasm does not take more than an hour. The reason men book providers for more than an hour is because they need more than the orgasm from her.
And, yes, men ARE easily controlled. Men WANT to please the women in their lives. If they are given acceptance, approval and appreciation coupled with physically demonstrable affection -- they will conquer continents for the woman who does it. And more often than not, they'll remain faithful too.
And when the woman giving the acceptance and physical affection happens to be a provider; depending on just how starved the guy is; she DOES gain a certain level of power. Power that the man's wife surrendered through abusing it. BUT, if she is ethical, that power is not abused; because she already knows what the wife did wrong.
(One reason I think some providers could make really fantastic wives. They get it. They see the results of all the other women's mistakes.)
So I think an older guy's appreciation for a provider is NOT always a function of the man being unable to get laid by a hottie. MANY hobbyists could do so readily; and seek providers for discretion and to avoid complications in meeting basic human needs.
In fact, I would say a lot of men are a lot more attractive than they think they are. It's just that their sexual self-esteem is in the TANK.
(That's an interesting way to assure fidelity. Make sure your husband feels so damned unattractive that anytime a pretty girl makes a pass at him he believes she's picking on him and couldn't possibly be sincere. Sometimes this technique backfires though.)
So I believe that a major reason why guys with experience appreciate providers so much is because of the way providers TREAT them.
Capt Ajax hit the nail on the head with this post. Another way to say it is that "he hit the nail - squarely on her faultlessly manicured thumb."
There is an absolute epidemic out there of wives failing to provide for the most basic of a husband's needs: appreciation, acceptance, approval and physically demonstrable affection. Men are nagged endlessly, treated as accessories and disposable gateways to a lifestyle, disrespected and talked down to, (even in public) etc. Your average woman wouldn't take even a tenth of the abuse that men do these days. It doesn't take getting married to see this, and to realize that Western society is rife with it and too many Western women are full of it. The all-too-common attitude seems to be that "a ring on my finger means a ring in HIS nose," and Western society sees nothing wrong with that attitude.
You can find that sort of attitude in women from anywhere in the world, but it seems more manageable in South America - at least from my limited observations. There are other regions, too (Southeast Asia comes to mind) where "a good man is valued like a precious jewel," or at least where the women grow up seeing that shit begets more shit and that the woman who dishes it out and gets slapped down for it has only herself to blame in the eyes of the community.
Men WANT to please the women in their lives. If they are given acceptance, approval and appreciation coupled with physically demonstrable affection -- they will conquer continents for the woman who does it. And more often than not, they'll remain faithful too.ABSOLUTELY!!! A woman who loved me, and who treated me with love and passion, would absolutely have my heart. How long, though, would that treatment last? That's what I find scary, and that's what keeps me keeping up my guard.
So you pay a few dollars and spend an hour with a provider who gives you that "loving feeling" for an hour or so. Or if you're lucky, you pack up and move to some country where the women value their men and behave lovingly toward them.
The ground rules of marriage - of human relations - should be:
If you treat me like a king, I'll treat you like my Queen.
If you treat me like your sugar-daddy, I'll treat you like my sugar-baby.
If you treat me like a dog, don't be surprised if I treat you like a fire-hydrant.
Speaking for the American man: Woof!
ThatGuy865
04-24-10, 21:17
What follows is NOT a reflection of conditions in my own current marriage; but a compilation of data from my own first marriage plus the experiences of several men who cheated on their wives who have spoken with me at great length about their motivations over the years.
I do not believe all appreciation for the providers is a function of age and the man's inferior sex appeal per-se. Rather, it is a function of experience.
Most married men, I believe, if they had a better home life, would not cheat. Obviously, some would no matter what. But most wouldn't. Most men find self-value in adhering to promises, meeting responsibilities, etc.
But there is an absolute epidemic out there of wives failing to provide for the most basic of a husband's needs: appreciation, acceptance, approval and physically demonstrable affection. Men are nagged endlessly, treated as accessories and disposable gateways to a lifestyle, disrespected and talked down to, (even in public) etc.
Their wives try to force husbands to be more feminine; turn them into girlfriends and shrinks, and then stop finding them attractive when they comply. The list is endless. (Not all marriages are like this. I'm talking about those of a large proportion of men who end up cheating.)
It is not at all unusual for wives to treat their pets or total strangers with higher regard than the husbands who provide for them. These men are exposed to endless emotional and psychological ABUSE day-in and day-out. They take it out of misplaced loyalty, for the sake of kids (who really shouldn't grow up learning that men should be treated that way), because their wives have destroyed their self-esteem, a biased legal system, etc.
Your average woman wouldn't take even a tenth of the abuse that men do these days.
When their self-centered, self-important and scandalously selfish wives concede to sex; it is often taken care of with about as much ardor as taking a shit.
The double standards in the home are breathtaking; and the manipulation is endless. If he doesn't let her go spend a day at the spa with the girls, he is being "controlling;" but if he wants to go spend Saturday down at the golf course, "he doesn't love her."
These men are absolutely STARVED for acceptance, basic respectful treatment, physically demonstrated affection and to just plain be treated fairly like normally-valued HUMAN BEINGS. They want an outlet where they can express their primal manhood without being treated as though they are an icky pariah barely deserving of drawing breath.
A provider, albeit for a fee, treats her client with normal human respect and dignity; accepts him as he is, gives him tacit approval to be a man in an environment free from "gotchas" and makes love to him enthusiastically. Like she means it. (Even if she doesn't. The man will suspend disbelief. Though -- maybe I am a bit naive -- I really DO think some providers really mean it. How they manage it, I don't know.)
Of COURSE he is appreciative. He is as appreciative as a starving man placed in front of a plate of spaghetti.
But it isn't just the sex that makes them appreciative. It is the ATTITUDE. Giving a man a great buildup and one hellatious orgasm does not take more than an hour. The reason men book providers for more than an hour is because they need more than the orgasm from her.
And, yes, men ARE easily controlled. Men WANT to please the women in their lives. If they are given acceptance, approval and appreciation coupled with physically demonstrable affection -- they will conquer continents for the woman who does it. And more often than not, they'll remain faithful too.
And when the woman giving the acceptance and physical affection happens to be a provider; depending on just how starved the guy is; she DOES gain a certain level of power. Power that the man's wife surrendered through abusing it. BUT, if she is ethical, that power is not abused; because she already knows what the wife did wrong.
(One reason I think some providers could make really fantastic wives. They get it. They see the results of all the other women's mistakes.)
So I think an older guy's appreciation for a provider is NOT always a function of the man being unable to get laid by a hottie. MANY hobbyists could do so readily; and seek providers for discretion and to avoid complications in meeting basic human needs.
In fact, I would say a lot of men are a lot more attractive than they think they are. It's just that their sexual self-esteem is in the TANK.
(That's an interesting way to assure fidelity. Make sure your husband feels so damned unattractive that anytime a pretty girl makes a pass at him he believes she's picking on him and couldn't possibly be sincere. Sometimes this technique backfires though.)
So I believe that a major reason why guys with experience appreciate providers so much is because of the way providers TREAT them.What a load of psycho mumbo jumbo. "providers making good wives". Yeah right! Man the only reason a provider is relished is because they will fuck on demand. And do it well. All the rest is B. S. How can anyone say a provider would be a good wive. How would you know how well she would keep house. Handle kids. Finances. Her social graces outside of the bedroom. Yeah you don't mind your provider dressing like a ****. But how many want a wife that does. And a lot of providers don't know how to dress but sluty.
Just because a women can suck a good dick and make a man's toes curl does mean she would be a good wife. The majority of mongers do not solicit the caliber of provider who requires social graces. Now if you're talking about $5000 escorts. MayB. But your 3rd world $40 bar girl or $100 a night US CL provider. No freakin way
Oh Ya Papi
04-25-10, 04:00
a proverder to our needs. you did not read the post it!!!! was not about marrage!!! marrage! to wives or providers!!!! it was about why men stray from ***** ass aw wives.
because they lack the needed provisions from women.
whether it is paid for or not,( and it is always paid for). a man needs his needs met. this was one of the best posts, i am not married either is he, so fuck your thatguy psycho mumbo jumbo, you are married?. ha... right.
capt jax good job loved the truth!!!!
he , capt jax, even write collegate with a title TS, and a conclusion, here it is again:
"So I believe that a major reason why guys with experience appreciate providers so much is because of the way providers TREAT them"
meaning they fuck hoes cuz they are good in the sack and fulfill our needs as a man. no one wants to marry..... man, and that is a whole other topic, immirgration, assimilation, chicks getting corrupted with american bitchiness. we all know not to bring them back.
whos da man?
nonsense, worst post ever.
What a load of psycho mumbo jumbo. "providers making good wives". Yeah right! Man the only reason a provider is relished is because they will fuck on demand. And do it well. All the rest is B. S. How can anyone say a provider would be a good wive. How would you know how well she would keep house. Handle kids. Finances. Her social graces outside of the bedroom. Yeah you don't mind your provider dressing like a ****. But how many want a wife that does. And a lot of providers don't know how to dress but sluty.
Just because a women can suck a good dick and make a man's toes curl does mean she would be a good wife. The majority of mongers do not solicit the caliber of provider who requires social graces. Now if you're talking about $5000 escorts. MayB. But your 3rd world $40 bar girl or $100 a night US CL provider. No freakin way
What a load of psycho mumbo jumbo. "providers making good wives". Yeah right! Man the only reason a provider is relished is because they will fuck on demand. And do it well. All the rest is B. S. How can anyone say a provider would be a good wive. How would you know how well she would keep house. Handle kids. Finances. Her social graces outside of the bedroom. Yeah you don't mind your provider dressing like a ****. But how many want a wife that does. And a lot of providers don't know how to dress but sluty.
Just because a women can suck a good dick and make a man's toes curl does mean she would be a good wife. The majority of mongers do not solicit the caliber of provider who requires social graces. Now if you're talking about $5000 escorts. MayB. But your 3rd world $40 bar girl or $100 a night US CL provider. No freakin way
It's really pointless arguing with a dimwit. I never said "providers would make good wives." I actually said "providers could make good wives." There's a big difference.
Definition of "could" and "would".
could
Past tense of can
Used to indicate ability or permission in the past: I could run faster then. Only men could go to the club in those days.
Used with hypothetical or conditional force: If we could help, we would.
Used to indicate tentativeness or politeness: I could be wrong. Could you come over here?
would
Past tense of will
Used to express desire or intent: She said she would meet us at the corner.
Used to express a wish: Would that we had gone with you!
Used after a statement of desire, request, or advice: I wish you would stay.
Used to make a polite request: Would you go with me?
Used in the main clause of a conditional statement to express a possibility or likelihood: If I had enough money, I would buy a car. We would have gone to the beach, had the weather been good. See Usage Note at if.
Used to express presumption or expectation: That would be Steve at the door.
Used to indicate uncertainty: He would seem to be getting better.
Used to express repeated or habitual action in the past: Every morning we would walk in the garden.
Bango Cheito
04-25-10, 23:44
Personally I would never be satisfied with any one woman. No matter WHAT... but it doesn't matter anyways, that's the NATURE of all monogamous "relationships" that the woman tries to use sex as a weapon to control and maniuplate the man. This is why most women HATE porn and HATE prostitution... they don't like the idea that the guy has another outlet....
ThatGuy865
04-26-10, 01:00
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to say most men will cheat. Hell it has little to do with how a woman treats you. She could be fucking you every night sooner or later Most men would want something different. Thats the bottom line.
Humans are animals and our sexual nature is not bound by man made laws. Nature dictates that and a man naturally will seek out sex. No matter what. Even the most mentally challenged male will get a hard on and he doesn't have to know how or why. He just knows he's horny and wants to fuck. Thats basic instinct. Marriage is a man made institution. Which goes against nature. 1 man 1 woman for life. So if you get married at 20 and live to 80 you are suppose to have sex with 1 woman for 60yrs. Come on.
So to say its because a provider gets it, has nothing to do with it. Men cheat because Men are Men. Plain and simple.
I doubt most men even cheat with or see sex providers. Most cheat with someone they know, either a co-worker, someone from the neighborhood, or a prior friend. Thats why so many get caught. You don't have to worry too much about being caught when you use a provider. Its the affairs.,
P.S. For you dummies. I did read the post and here is exactly what he wrote.
(One reason I think some providers could make really fantastic wives. They get it. They see the results of all the other women's mistakes.)Also its not true that men go to providers because of the way they treat them. MOST (not all) men go to providers because they can't find a young woman who will do the things a provider will, period or without some sort of relationship.
I doubt most men even cheat with or see sex providers. Most cheat with someone they know, either a co-worker, someone from the neighborhood, or a prior friend. Thats why so many get caught. You don't have to worry too much about being caught when you use a provider. Its the affairs.,
P.S. For you dummies. I did read the post and here is exactly what he wrote.
Also its not true that men go to providers because of the way they treat them. MOST (not all) men go to providers because they can't find a young woman who will do the things a provider will, period or without some sort of relationship.
I've always agreed with the Sinatra quote. "I dont pay to sleep with them, I pay them to leave." (something along those lines).
I just spent 11 days in sex prison. I fucked an old friend of mine (literally as she is 57). It was good sex and she is in very good shape for her age. I have known her for 30 years and fucked her off and on for 18 years.
So what was the problem? She kept complaining about her boyfriend/common-law husband, who she's been with for about fifteen years. He's fat, he doesn't do anything around the house, he spends all his time on the computer. He's "emotionally unavailable," whatever the fuck that means. In fact she complains about him constantly to anyone who will listen and often criticizes him in public when he is there.
Hmmm. He pays 100% of the mortgage and utility bills. It was his house to begin with. He puts up with her six stupid little dogs and takes care of them on her frequent trips out of town to be with her friends, trips on which he is never invited and on which she often fucks around. I spent half a Saturday at her house, drinking (his beer) and smoking weed and playing cards. Meanwhile he was taking all the baseboards off and refinishing them, laying paving stones in HER garden, and he went and did the grocery shopping.
I sort of felt sorry for the guy as I was fucking her, but not really.
If every married man had a woman who had sex with him every night, like you just described, I'm willing to bet that 90%+ of marriages would last for as long as they both shall live. What always changes during a marriage are the conditions in which the courting took place.
AW go out of their way to hook a man she wishes to marry by giving the man the illusion he is about to marry his dream girl. During courtship, she hardly says no, treats the man well, acts like a woman. As soon as the ring goes on and the marriage is official, as it is said "Why does a bride smile coming down the aisle?" Shock, disapointment, cheating and divorce are the results of this deceit and yes, it is the woman who is to blame for changing the conditions of the relationship in the first place.
If a man gets his physical needs met everyday, there is no way there would be a 50% divorce rate. Man will try his best to always satisfy his basic needs despite the abuse being dished by his partner in marriage. So if he needs a provider, coworker or whatever to take care of that most basic of needs, there is only one person to blame: Her :D
Hell it has little to do with how a woman treats you. She could be fucking you every night sooner or later Most men would want something different.
Bango Cheito
04-26-10, 20:01
If every married man had a woman who had sex with him every night, like you just described, I'm willing to bet that 90%+ of marriages would last for as long as they both shall live. What always changes during a marriage are the conditions in which the courting took place.
AW go out of their way to hook a man she wishes to marry by giving the man the illusion he is about to marry his dream girl. During courtship, she hardly says no, treats the man well, acts like a woman. As soon as the ring goes on and the marriage is official, as it is said "Why does a bride smile coming down the aisle?" Shock, disapointment, cheating and divorce are the results of this deceit and yes, it is the woman who is to blame for changing the conditions of the relationship in the first place.
If a man gets his physical needs met everyday, there is no way there would be a 50% divorce rate. Man will try his best to always satisfy his basic needs despite the abuse being dished by his partner in marriage. So if he needs a provider, coworker or whatever to take care of that most basic of needs, there is only one person to blame: Her :D
Couldn't disagree more. Human beings need variety.. no ONE woman would ever satisfy me 100%
Couldn't disagree more. Human beings need variety.. no ONE woman would ever satisfy me 100%
BC - As much as I would like to agree with V1, you have a valid point. Variety is the spice of life. But I think you need to qualify your statement a little.
While most of the guys on this board could not fathom it, there is a big chunk of the male population who are just not that interested in sex after the age of 28 or so. I know, I know... it hardly seems possible. But for those guys, none of this is an issue. They go through life as happy as could be getting laid once every 60 days or so not counting high holidays. Frankly, many of these guys are just too lazy to chase strange pussy, or maybe they have just given up entirely. Regardless of their reasons, they don't really factor into the argument. For them - none of this is an issue. For whatever reason, their sex drive has been suppressed.
For the rest of us, however, you would like to think that coming home every night being greeted at the door by a smiling wife who drops to her knees and gives you a blowjob followed by "acrobat sex" for two hours would be enough to stop any guy from straying. While I have never been so lucky to receive such treatment, I do know guys who do. In more than 50% of cases, it's just a matter of time until they get bored with the routine and go looking for something else. If you are predisposed to stray, you are going to stray regardless of what you have at home.
I used to have a neighbor who had such a wife that treated him right. She was a virgin when he married her and she took to sex like a duck to water. No mater what he suggested she was up for it. But after 5 years or so, it all got to be routine and the stupid bastard went looking for some "strange" and ...... well, you know the rest.
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Gentleman Travel
04-26-10, 21:45
BC - As much as I would like to agree with V1, you have a valid point. Variety is the spice of life. But I think you need to qualify your statement a little...
For the rest of us, however, you would like to think that coming home every night being greeted at the door by a smiling wife who drops to her knees and gives you a blowjob followed by "acrobat sex" for two hours would be enough to stop any guy from straying...
Being Canadian, I think the truth lies in compromise between these diverse viewpoints.
Sure there are some guys who will always stray, no matter how good it is at home.
But I also think a lot of guys are driven to stray by lack of home comforts.
And many of them would not stray if they were satisfied at home.
Not that they could not be tempted, or don't fantasize about it, but many would not actually get around to doing it.
There are many reasons - loyalty, fear, shame, etc, but I think the biggest impediments are effort, cost and inconvenience.
It can be hard and complicated work to cheat on your spouse.
Especially if you are looking for an extra-marital affair, rather than P4P.
Christ - trying to find a woman who wants to screw with a married man, which usually means she is married also, thus further complicated and costly, is a hell of a lot of effort!
And frankly, so is finding a suitable P4P arrangement, if you don't know the ropes. Lots of cities have mediocre options, high prices and real fear of law enforcement and humiliation and social ostracization if you are exposed.
If you travel in your work, all these issues become easier, especially if your travel takes you to some international candyland, where supply is plentiful, price reasonable and social mores accommodating. But if you are homebound, it can be tough - tough enough to discourage many men unless driven to it by sexual starvation.
I had a very interesting conversation with a provider, now retired, who got married a couple of years ago. She told me, a worn out dick ain't worth a hill of beans to a horny woman outside a marriage.
She also said, if she ever got married, just based on her experiences in the hobby, she would elect to fuck her husband 24/7 i.e. give him all the sex he ever wanted day or night. Her theory, fuck her husband so much that he would be too exhausted to have sex with other women. I talked to her early last year, she now has a one year old child, and is still happily married to her dick tired husband.
I agree, a worn out dick is not worth a hill of beans to a horny woman outside the marriage. Unfortunately most AW fail to understand this very simple concept.
Being Canadian, I think the truth lies in compromise between these diverse viewpoints.
Sure there are some guys who will always stray, no matter how good it is at home.
But I also think a lot of guys are driven to stray by lack of home comforts.
And many of them would not stray if they were satisfied at home.
Not that they could not be tempted, or don't fantasize about it, but many would not actually get around to doing it.
There are many reasons - loyalty, fear, shame, etc, but I think the biggest impediments are effort, cost and inconvenience.
It can be hard and complicated work to cheat on your spouse.
Especially if you are looking for an extra-marital affair, rather than P4P.
Christ - trying to find a woman who wants to screw with a married man, which usually means she is married also, thus further complicated and costly, is a hell of a lot of effort!
And frankly, so is finding a suitable P4P arrangement, if you don't know the ropes. Lots of cities have mediocre options, high prices and real fear of law enforcement and humiliation and social ostracization if you are exposed.
If you travel in your work, all these issues become easier, especially if your travel takes you to some international candyland, where supply is plentiful, price reasonable and social mores accommodating. But if you are homebound, it can be tough - tough enough to discourage many men unless driven to it by sexual starvation.
I agree, a worn out dick is not worth a hill of beans to a horny woman outside the marriage. Unfortunately most AW fail to understand this very simple concept. Hmmmmm - sounds like the best defense is a good offense. ;)
ThatGuy865
04-27-10, 04:13
If every married man had a woman who had sex with him every night, like you just described, I'm willing to bet that 90%+ of marriages would last for as long as they both shall live. What always changes during a marriage are the conditions in which the courting took place.
AW go out of their way to hook a man she wishes to marry by giving the man the illusion he is about to marry his dream girl. During courtship, she hardly says no, treats the man well, acts like a woman. As soon as the ring goes on and the marriage is official, as it is said "Why does a bride smile coming down the aisle? " Shock, disapointment, cheating and divorce are the results of this deceit and yes, it is the woman who is to blame for changing the conditions of the relationship in the first place.
If a man gets his physical needs met everyday, there is no way there would be a 50% divorce rate. Man will try his best to always satisfy his basic needs despite the abuse being dished by his partner in marriage. So if he needs a provider, coworker or whatever to take care of that most basic of needs, there is only one person to blame: Herif that was true why are Men in other countries where woman are submissive still fuck around. There is no country in the world where men are faitful. Period. No matter how domesticated the women might B. Hell in most of the those countries. The men are notorious for having mistresses.
So why is that?
Bango Cheito
04-27-10, 05:33
It doesn't matter how into sex a woman is, how frequently she wants it, or how kinky she's willing to be, I'm ALWAYS going to want multiple sex partners... I think it's deeply engrained human nature... how far certain pathetic individuals are willing to go to SURPRESS it is not really my concern... it's their funeral.... I for one want to live like a man and not a fucking slave!!!
I'm pretty sure men with means (disposable income) going outside of their marriages for strange was not really talked about or even that big of a deal until the women's lib movement. It was accepted that it was going to happen, and all women really cared about was how he was at home. I'm not speaking from experience, as I wasn't even alive back then, and my father isn't from the US.
Poor men had to remain faithful, as they wouldn't really have the financial means to support a mistress and wouldn't attract nearly as many women as their richer counterparts.
Demonizing and even criminalizing maleness in our society is getting out of hand lately.
Bango Cheito
04-27-10, 18:50
I think people who didn't have lots of money just went to the *****house and called it a day, and there were TONS of them around all over any city....
DJ FourMoney
04-27-10, 21:16
Don’t believe everything you read. There are a lot of handsome young college educated black men out there without a criminal record who have difficulty finding a suitable American woman for a mate. I know several of them. One recently found himself a Costa Rican virgin for a wife after spending years chasing black college girls who were more interested in trying to fuck rappers on spring break or finding a sugar-daddy. Like the article says, real life is complicated. A college education isn’t the only trait that men look for in a wife so having one doesn’t necessarily make a black woman any more desirable. A degree usually means little more than an extremely high likelihood that the woman is bringing a huge shitload of credit card and student loan debt into the marriage.
The black women out there wringing their hands about not being able to find a suitable husband, more often than not, are not the kind of women that you would like to marry. These women refuse to look at themselves and blame their situation on everything from mass incarceration to homosexuality among black males. Black men in college will tell you that they appear invisible to black women until they start dating a white, Asian or Hispanic girl. Then they get plenty of evil stares and hateful comments. The truth is that black American women set their goals for a sucker unrealistically high. They want handsome, rich, young, powerful, intelligent, sexually prow and domesticated in one neat convenient package like an iPhone with all its apps. Ironically, even when black men meet all of their criteria they tend to avoid these high expectation women.
+1
Oh so true...
DJ FourMoney
04-27-10, 22:21
Couldn't disagree more. Human beings need variety.. no ONE woman would ever satisfy me 100%
Check that, YOU NEED VARIETY...
And you know what? That's perfectly okay.
I want one woman really, just one. In the meantime that does NOT mean I need to go sexless nor do I need to put up with typical BS in the American Dating Pool.
DJ FourMoney
04-27-10, 22:50
if that was true why are Men in other countries where woman are submissive still fuck around. There is no country in the world where men are faitful. Period. No matter how domesticated the women might B. Hell in most of the those countries. The men are notorious for having mistresses.
So why is that?
Supply and Demand...
America and to large extent UK are STRANGE places socially and its not fair to compare them to Eastern Europe, Western Europe, Asia or South America.
While all these places have more women than men, the social results are much different.
a) Generally divorce is easier to get and higher rates in Western Countries.
b) Other countries, men correctly see the advantage of more women as more CHOICE. This leads to infidelity, less children being born, fewer marriages and much larger pool of single women of in all age brackets.
Men in other countries are not penalized for being Single, for not being Married, rarely have "Shotgun Weddings" and are valued much higher. I recently watched DW where they went to a village in Bulgaria and there was a Bride Market believe it or not. Could you imagine such a thing in Western Culture????
While there are more woman in US, I have some facts for you -
Of women under 40:
42% of Black Women have never been married
32% of Hispanic Women have never been married
22% of Caucasian Women have never been married
Considering 300 Million People and that's a SIZABLE CHUNK of the dating Pool that's Single. But you would hardly call that "paradise".
Most of those women are looking for imaginary people. You know "Corporate Thugs", Rich Bad Boys. Speaking of which, Sandra Bullock anybody?
This is why I blocked your post before, sometimes you make sense, other times you don't.
There is a no Silver Bullet to a successful relationship, that's why successful relationships are a constant work in progress.
Here's a review from a typical pussywhipped American male. The chick finishes him off with a bj and cleans him up, since his hour is not yet up, he begs for nookie(sex), she refuses, but then allows him to go down on her for a few minutes, total BS, and she kicks his ass out. Guys when are we going to wake the fuck up. It's obvious who's in control here, the PROVIDER. I just cannot imagine this kind of BS happening in Central, South America, Asia, EE, the Caribbean etc. Looks like this chick is right up ThatGuy865 alley.
Saw her ad on BP and was in the mood so I called her up. I thought I was speaking with her, but I found out later it was another girl giving me directions. I eventually made it to her incall, a very run down and messy house. She met me in a bra only, took the envelope, and guided me to the bedroom. I knew it wasn't the girl in the pics (not even close) but I was thinking with the other head. I should have walked out when I saw it wasn't the girl in the pics...not a good experience.
She met me at the door wearing nothing but a white lacey bra and nothing else. Her tits were obvioulsy factory made (which I hate) and were way too big for her petite frame. Her face was not attractive and she had a complete forest for a bush. I haven't see that much pubic hair since college!
She guided me to the bedroom and had to squeeze thru the doorway since there was a huge pile of dirty clothes on the floor and couldn't open the door. The bed was a mess and TV was blaring. She took off her bra and I got comfortable. She started with a very poor bbbj (more hand than mouth) and I came quickly. We'd spoken on the phone, and she agreed to a full hour, with multiples and greek for $180. After she cleaned me up she told me I had to leave! Had I known that, I wouldn't have wasted my time with the aweful bj. I reitterated what we'd discussed on the phone, and that's when she told me she never spoke to me, it was someone else. But she agreed to give me a bit more time. I wasn't hard so I went down on her for a few minutes. Then she got up and told me I had to leave.
It was a poor experience. There are plenty of other providers in the area, don't give her a second thought. I will not repeat (obviously).
Oh Ya Papi
04-29-10, 03:06
in general, american women are trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ugly fat, nerds un traveled, gold diggers, etc.
i have been to 33 countries,
my chicks , that i rent are sweet, dope, better than tigers.
fuck american women!!!
Supply and Demand...
America and to large extent UK are STRANGE places socially and its not fair to compare them to Eastern Europe, Western Europe, Asia or South America.
While all these places have more women than men, the social results are much different.
a) Generally divorce is easier to get and higher rates in Western Countries.
b) Other countries, men correctly see the advantage of more women as more CHOICE. This leads to infidelity, less children being born, fewer marriages and much larger pool of single women of in all age brackets.
Men in other countries are not penalized for being Single, for not being Married, rarely have "Shotgun Weddings" and are valued much higher. I recently watched DW where they went to a village in Bulgaria and there was a Bride Market believe it or not. Could you imagine such a thing in Western Culture????
While there are more woman in US, I have some facts for you -
Of women under 40:
42% of Black Women have never been married
32% of Hispanic Women have never been married
22% of Caucasian Women have never been married
Considering 300 Million People and that's a SIZABLE CHUNK of the dating Pool that's Single. But you would hardly call that "paradise".
Most of those women are looking for imaginary people. You know "Corporate Thugs", Rich Bad Boys. Speaking of which, Sandra Bullock anybody?
This is why I blocked your post before, sometimes you make sense, other times you don't.
There is a no Silver Bullet to a successful relationship, that's why successful relationships are a constant work in progress.
Oh Ya Papi
04-29-10, 03:09
fuck the american scene.:
you know what they call sexual harrasment in colombia?....................................................................................................................
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you only fuck her once!!
true shit,!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mongers unite!!!!!!
ThatGuy865
04-29-10, 04:31
Here's a review from a typical pussywhipped American male. The chick finishes him off with a BJ and cleans him up, since his hour is not yet up, he begs for nookie(sex), she refuses, but then allows him to go down on her for a few minutes, total BS, and she kicks his ass out. Guys when are we going to wake the fuck up. It's obvious who's in control here, the PROVIDER. I just cannot imagine this kind of BS happening in Central, South America, Asia, EE, the Caribbean etc. Looks like this chick is right up ThatGuy865 alley.You name the place and I can show you a post where someone is complaining about a provider or a woman from that country who did them wrong. There are no perfect places. There are men who get with bad women in every country. I can easily find post in every local you named where someone is complaining about a babe who either didn't provide jack, rip them off, scammed them or just were lousy lays. It happens the world over. It just the guys on this site got lousy lays from AW. But there are plenty who don't. There is a similar forum to this one dedicated strictly to US sex providers and it has as many if not more members as this one. So there must be a lot of happy AM with AW. It just Thatguy. Telling it like it is. ya dig.
Bango Cheito
04-29-10, 07:34
Check that, YOU NEED VARIETY...
And you know what? That's perfectly okay.
I want one woman really, just one. In the meantime that does NOT mean I need to go sexless nor do I need to put up with typical BS in the American Dating Pool.
My honest opinion, deep down you want variety but for whatever reason you're not aware of it. Not to try and offend you, but my observation is extensive and that's my position, right or wrong.
What I don't understand about Thatguy's position is IF he's agreeing with me on the "we need variety" shit why the humongous double standard? What's wrong with sauce for the goose being sauce for the gander as well? Why would the ideal male be one who has slept with thousands of women but at the same time the ideal female be a VIRGIN?
Here's a review from a typical pussywhipped American male. The chick finishes him off with a BJ and cleans him up, since his hour is not yet up, he begs for nookie(sex), she refuses, but then allows him to go down on her for a few minutes, total BS, and she kicks his ass out. Guys when are we going to wake the fuck up. It's obvious who's in control here, the PROVIDER. I just cannot imagine this kind of BS happening in Central, South America, Asia, EE, the Caribbean etc. Looks like this chick is right up ThatGuy865 alley.Here are some bad news. If American guys do not stop practicing similar BS in other countries, foreign girls will be becoming more like American. I have seen this has actually been happening. I have noticed that girls in Caribbean(Curacao) do not will to please as they used to 10 years ago.
Also in Colombia similar things are happening.
On this board some guys write how they pay working girls to lick their pussies. Sometimes they even pay extra for that "service". And they get upset if a girl refuses.
Maybe its cool(why?) for the guys, but it gives women wrong message.
The women learn that American guys will not only want to please the women but also want to pay extra for that. What will be the result?. They will be like AW.
If you want to please a woman and pay for that why not stay in USA. Or if you really want to do that then you should charge the girl for that. Don't screw up the rest of the world.
I have proof...
-Helpmann ;)
b) Other countries, men correctly see the advantage of more women as more CHOICE. This leads to infidelity, less children being born, fewer marriages and much larger pool of single women of in all age brackets.
Men in other countries are not penalized for being Single, for not being Married, rarely have "Shotgun Weddings" and are valued much higher.
Ummm ... please explain to me why infidelity leads to fewer children being born. And the US has a lower than average birth rate. Furthermore, it is for sure true that in many Asian and Latin societies a man is expected to marry to progress in the corporate world. At some point the boss will pull a promising single employee aside and have a chat with him about this.
Clandestine782
04-29-10, 17:27
Ummm ... please explain to me why infidelity leads to fewer children being born. And the US has a lower than average birth rate. Furthermore, it is for sure true that in many Asian and Latin societies a man is expected to marry to progress in the corporate world. At some point the boss will pull a promising single employee aside and have a chat with him about this.Lower than whom? I am just reading an interesting book about that. And the US is the only advanced country that is reproducing in such a way as to maintain its population. I'm also reading ("America Alone," by Mark Steyn, the crux of which was that Europe is suffering from fatal population declines and will soon be overrun with Muslims.) that even within the US, the birth rate of Red States is higher than that of Blue States. I am not sure if infidelity has ANY effect on birth rate (at least not one that I can find on a brief perusal). Also not sure what you mean about men being expected to marry to progress in the corporate world. China (which is MOST of Asia) has the one child policy and has a rate of something like 1.82 children per woman. Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore are all close to 1.2 children per women. Waaaay below replacement rate.
Ummm ... marrying and having children are two different things, in case you were unaware.
I have proof...
-Helpmann ;)You are absolutely right.
What I don't understand about Thatguy's position is IF he's agreeing with me on the "we need variety" shit why the humongous double standard? What's wrong with sauce for the goose being sauce for the gander as well? Why would the ideal male be one who has slept with thousands of women but at the same time the ideal female be a VIRGIN?
Because picking up women requires skills, resources, or both. As a man, you either have to be good at picking up (a skill whether natural or learned) or have enough money to attract a woman.
A woman can just go into any bar, talk to almost any guy, and go home. Guaranteed as long as she isn't a troll.
Here's a metaphor to better explain the concept.
A key that can open many locks is the master key. A lock that is opened by many keys is a faulty lock.
Ummm ... marrying and having children are two different things, in case you were unaware.
But nowadays having children is the only reason to get married, and even that is slowly changing.
For some, marriage isn't even a prerequisite to having kids.
Bango Cheito
04-29-10, 23:14
Because picking up women requires skills, resources, or both. As a man, you either have to be good at picking up (a skill whether natural or learned) or have enough money to attract a woman.
A woman can just go into any bar, talk to almost any guy, and go home. Guaranteed as long as she isn't a troll.
Here's a metaphor to better explain the concept.
A key that can open many locks is the master key. A lock that is opened by many keys is a faulty lock.
That's an interesting analogy, although I don't agree with it..... I don't think sex or relationships should have that kind of a "key and lock" dynamic to it... it should be two or three or however many people just exploring, having fun and being creative, hopefully in a way that doesn't cause epidemics or lead to genetic birth defects, but other than that, anything goes!!
We have a few fucked up religions floating around the planet that preach that the best kind of a woman is a virgin, and this leads to all sorts of stupid shit regarding women and how they relate to their own sexuality...
I couldn't help but ROFL when I was watching the news today. The reporter was interviewing a waitress at a seafood restaurant claiming her manager asked her to turn his "shrimp into a lobster!"
FYI, TG865 there are many more fucked up women in the U.S.A than anywhere else in the world. I'm betting in the U.S.A. the ratio is 9 fucked up women for every 10 women===>(0.9). For other countries this ratio is probably no higher than 0.2.
You name the place and I can show you a post where someone is complaining about a provider or a woman from that country who did them wrong. There are no perfect places. There are men who get with bad women in every country. I can easily find post in every local you named where someone is complaining about a babe who either didn't provide jack, rip them off, scammed them or just were lousy lays. It happens the world over. It just the guys on this site got lousy lays from AW. But there are plenty who don't. There is a similar forum to this one dedicated strictly to US sex providers and it has as many if not more members as this one. So there must be a lot of happy AM with AW. It just Thatguy. Telling it like it is. ya dig.
ThatGuy865
04-30-10, 04:04
FYI, TG865 there are many more fucked up women in the USA A than anywhere else in the world. I'm betting in the USA the ratio is 9 fucked up women for every 10 women=== (0. 9). For other countries this ratio is probably no higher than 0. 2.No. Thats what you think. Because as a foreigner. Especially a westerner going to another country. You are considered wealthy, educated and a great catch. Whether you really are or not. Its a preception. And as they say "preception is reality". So therefore women who would say "FU" to a similar guy from their own country. Will say yes to you. Which gives you the impression the women in these countries are so friendly and loose. NOT!. You are just seen as the Donald trump. Thats why so many old, fat, out of shape, mongers get laid in these countries. Do you really think a native guy who looks the same gets the same treatment. No Way.
DJ FourMoney
04-30-10, 09:34
Lower than whom? I am just reading an interesting book about that. And the US is the only advanced country that is reproducing in such a way as to maintain its population. I'm also reading ("America Alone," by Mark Steyn, the crux of which was that Europe is suffering from fatal population declines and will soon be overrun with Muslims.) that even within the US, the birth rate of Red States is higher than that of Blue States. I am not sure if infidelity has ANY effect on birth rate (at least not one that I can find on a brief perusal). Also not sure what you mean about men being expected to marry to progress in the corporate world. China (which is MOST of Asia) has the one child policy and has a rate of something like 1.82 children per woman. Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore are all close to 1.2 children per women. Waaaay below replacement rate.
The Red State, Blue State phenomena is also sited in the book Red Families vs Blue Families and used Bristol Palin has a shinning example...
Nobody is complaining about replacement here in America but of continued growth... Latinos are having children at a rate higher than replacement of Black and White couples and there many cultural aspects of this that are very interesting. One of them, Latinas are more likely to get family support even in single parent child birth than Black or White woman in the same position. When you hear of girls getting kicked out or leaving (forced out) the family home its usually White, followed by Black families that do this BS.
Asian countries limit how many children are born by law, a law that many "free thinking" Americans would find unacceptable. By contrast many European countries are getting older, yet you have higher rates of domestic partnerships, which leads to fewer children being born. It is accepted in much of Europe that marriage is preferred before having children, not having children and then getting married (Shotgun Weddings). Domestic Partnership delays marriage, in turn delays children. I was watching a show and a older couple (late 30's) got married at this special chapel that's located on the North Sea coast. During the interview they mentioned they had been together 5 years but felt no rush to get married, but then thought, why not. They then said that MAYBE in the future they will have children.
When you pair that statement with the fact that Germany is encouraging women to have children (cash incentive) and men (husbands) take more paid leave to help with newborns is a policy that makes sense but more has to do with the concerns of population count and age.
This is also a policy and concern in Russia and much of Western Europe. Russia is paying (cash incentive) women to have children, preferable in wedlock but as far as I know that's not a requirement...
As to DH concern about infidelity, this is not scientific just personal opinion -
The last thing a man engaging extra martial affairs or even a "chick on the side" in a long term relationships wants the least amount of entanglements...
Which means you're more likely to wear a condom or the woman is more likely to be on the pill because she doesn't want a child on accident. Also in places like Russia abortion rates are almost double that of the United States.
Just in that final sentence you had see the impact of RELIGION in our social discourse.
DJ FourMoney
04-30-10, 09:54
Ummm ... marrying and having children are two different things, in case you were unaware.
Yes but things like social polices, maybe like NO SEX ED, Abstinence Only that in many Red States leads to more teenage pregnancy?! Shouldn't it be the other way around?
Britain is not secular either because like America religion does have an impact on social discourse and political outcomes. Teen Pregnancy is not all that high but I think I mentioned before one section of former working class town, over 50% of the high school aged girls are pregnant or have children already...
Many unmarried coupes have children - Goldie Hawn/Kurt Russell = Kate Hudson (Not her biological father) but she said Bill Hudson doesn't know her from a hole in the wall (He's married to Cindy Williams of Lavern and Shirley fame) so not only is she a product of a blended family but her father isn't really her father and he's (Kurt) not married to her mother - Go figure
DJ FourMoney
04-30-10, 10:11
That's an interesting analogy, although I don't agree with it..... I don't think sex or relationships should have that kind of a "key and lock" dynamic to it... it should be two or three or however many people just exploring, having fun and being creative, hopefully in a way that doesn't cause epidemics or lead to genetic birth defects, but other than that, anything goes!!
We have a few fucked up religions floating around the planet that preach that the best kind of a woman is a virgin, and this leads to all sorts of stupid shit regarding women and how they relate to their own sexuality...
Very true...
And by the way, I don't require variety. However that does not mean a quick roll in the hay isn't beyond reality for me. Meaning, that being involved in a loving, caring long term relationship, sometimes the forbidden becomes very attractive but you wouldn't want to ruin your already good relationship for some one-time pussy. So the chances of me cheatoing are rare but not impossible and the circumstances have to be just right otherwise its not worth the time and possible trouble it might cause.
BC its clear you just don't give a fuck (which is perfectly okay) so feelings for another never enter into the equation because you don't allow it.
For you P4P and casual relationship are ideal for you but not everybody and marriage is not an outdated concept. That's why I call today Post-Modern; being an individual is deemed more important and for many now days, the modern trappings of individualism outweigh the rewards of child bearing and nurturing of intimate relationships.
No. Thats what you think. Because as a foreigner. Especially a westerner going to another country. You are considered wealthy, educated and a great catch. Whether you really are or not. Its a preception. And as they say "preception is reality". So therefore women who would say "FU" to a similar guy from their own country. Will say yes to you. Which gives you the impression the women in these countries are so friendly and loose. NOT!. You are just seen as the Donald trump. Thats why so many old, fat, out of shape, mongers get laid in these countries. Do you really think a native guy who looks the same gets the same treatment. No Way.That's could be in a theory. In reality when you go to another country you can see lots of extremely hot women with average or old local guys. You would almost never see this in USA.
You're talking only about some type of women who are interested in foreigners and just having fun. Including working girls, etc. But there are different types of women too.
I have actually had problems getting to some women "closer" in Central Asia. One of the reason was. I was considered a foreigner and will probably leave the country soon. They would prefer a local but reliable guy than me. Who would less likely to leave them. Many women there do not like to fuck around, it is bad for their reputation. And they do not want to get hurt if somebody leaves them after they get fucked. But if you are there of a long time, then it can be a paradise. Nothing like compared to YewEss.
Steven Seagal cannot afford the life he wants to with all his money because of an american biyotch. He learned his lesson to stay away from AW.
BTW, she is quiet an ugly lesbian "model". He should have sticked to Russian girls
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20002440-504083.html
http://www.mahalo.com/kayden-nguyen
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Steven Seagal is accused of hiring young women as personal attendants whose real job was to serve his strange and sometimes violent sexual desires, according to a civil lawsuit filed Monday in Los Angeles by a 23-year-old former model who describes her experience in harrowing detail.
The plaintiff, Kayden Nguyen, said she met the action star in February through an ad on Craigslist seeking an executive assistant and, after three interviews, was told to pack for a trip to New Orleans, where the A&E show "Steven Seagal Lawman" was taping.
When she arrived, the lawsuit says, she discovered that Seagal had been keeping two young female Russian "attendants" who were essentially on-call for sex — 24-seven.
Read more: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36446224/
Bango Cheito
04-30-10, 17:30
Very true...
And by the way, I don't require variety. However that does not mean a quick roll in the hay isn't beyond reality for me. Meaning, that being involved in a loving, caring long term relationship, sometimes the forbidden becomes very attractive but you wouldn't want to ruin your already good relationship for some one-time pussy. So the chances of me cheatoing are rare but not impossible and the circumstances have to be just right otherwise its not worth the time and possible trouble it might cause.
BC its clear you just don't give a fuck (which is perfectly okay) so feelings for another never enter into the equation because you don't allow it.
For you P4P and casual relationship are ideal for you but not everybody and marriage is not an outdated concept. That's why I call today Post-Modern; being an individual is deemed more important and for many now days, the modern trappings of individualism outweigh the rewards of child bearing and nurturing of intimate relationships.
That's the part people don't seem to get.... why does a relationship that's sexually exclusive get to be labelled "caring" and one that's sexually open HAVE to be labelled as "cold" and a relationship between people who "don't give a fuck" ... why can't we be loving and caring WITHOUT giving up our NATURAL freedom? Why is it that if I LOVE somebody ENOUGH to share them, that means I "don't have feelings" for them??
The thing I like best about p4p is the total and utter TRANSPARENCY in the relationship... In my experience that's WAY better than the average "traditional" relationship I have been in where everything is one big fucking lie... I recognize the need to lie socially under certain circumstances but i DON'T accept it with people I'm close to... THAT is why I will NEVER enter into another monogamous relationship, more than any other reason.
No. Thats what you think. Because as a foreigner. Especially a westerner going to another country. You are considered wealthy, educated and a great catch. Whether you really are or not. Its a preception. And as they say "preception is reality". So therefore women who would say "FU" to a similar guy from their own country. Will say yes to you. Which gives you the impression the women in these countries are so friendly and loose. NOT!. You are just seen as the Donald trump. Thats why so many old, fat, out of shape, mongers get laid in these countries. Do you really think a native guy who looks the same gets the same treatment. No Way.
Very true. I realized that rather quickly and went right back to being a ***** monger...where I belong.
Steven Seagal cannot afford the life he wants to with all his money because of an american biyotch. He learned his lesson to stay away from AW.
BTW, she is quiet an ugly lesbian "model". He should have sticked to Russian girls
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20002440-504083.html
http://www.mahalo.com/kayden-nguyen
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Steven Seagal is accused of hiring young women as personal attendants whose real job was to serve his strange and sometimes violent sexual desires, according to a civil lawsuit filed Monday in Los Angeles by a 23-year-old former model who describes her experience in harrowing detail.
The plaintiff, Kayden Nguyen, said she met the action star in February through an ad on Craigslist seeking an executive assistant and, after three interviews, was told to pack for a trip to New Orleans, where the A&E show "Steven Seagal Lawman" was taping.
When she arrived, the lawsuit says, she discovered that Seagal had been keeping two young female Russian "attendants" who were essentially on-call for sex — 24-seven.
Read more: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/36446224/
lol, I immediatly thought the same thing when I first read this. Why do this with an American girl??? It's suicide!
DJ FourMoney
05-01-10, 01:49
That's the part people don't seem to get.... why does a relationship that's sexually exclusive get to be labelled "caring" and one that's sexually open HAVE to be labelled as "cold" and a relationship between people who "don't give a fuck" ... why can't we be loving and caring WITHOUT giving up our NATURAL freedom? Why is it that if I LOVE somebody ENOUGH to share them, that means I "don't have feelings" for them??
The thing I like best about p4p is the total and utter TRANSPARENCY in the relationship... In my experience that's WAY better than the average "traditional" relationship I have been in where everything is one big fucking lie... I recognize the need to lie socially under certain circumstances but i DON'T accept it with people I'm close to... THAT is why I will NEVER enter into another monogamous relationship, more than any other reason.
To be fair I don't assume sexually open relationships are always cold, it just takes to very mentally mature people to be involved in it. This make these types of idealized relationships nearly impossible to find. I mentioned before that the Ukrainian woman I know mentioned she didn't have a problem with wandering eyes nor even pursuit of tail as long as I didn't "throw it in her face".
In some cultures it is understood that men will not always be faithful, while in Western culture we're constantly "shocked" by prominent men being guilty of infidelity and the list currently in the news is as long as your arm.
The reason is our media has been captured by Manginas and Women.
The good news is bothers are getting smarter, I was watching International House Hunters and this nice looking brother was married to an olive skined beauty named Luna with a thick accent and they bought a pricey pad in Nicaragua.
DJ FourMoney
05-01-10, 01:51
lol, I immediatly thought the same thing when I first read this. Why do this with an American girl??? It's suicide!
Nobody accused Steve of being smart... Down to earth and a "guy's" guy sure, but smart, I dunno.
Nobody accused Steve of being smart... Down to earth and a "guy's" guy sure, but smart, I dunno.
I really think a lot of these guys think they can get away with anything. That is why they have a team of publicists, managers, etc for much of their careers to hide the fuck ups. Many times they get away with it, just because of their personalities, lifestyles, etc, but sometimes someone somewhere slips up and it gets to the press, lawyers, etc.
I saw a clip of his new cop show on youtube, and for sure he seems as dumb as a brick and his team of worshippers aka fellow cops seem even dumber, but he does seem like he'd be fun to shoot the shit with for an hour or two. But he does come off as a bit of a creep and that would bother me after much more than that.
ThatGuy865
05-01-10, 17:33
That's could be in a theory. In reality when you go to another country you can see lots of extremely hot women with average or old local guys. You would almost never see this in USA.
You're talking only about some type of women who are interested in foreigners and just having fun. Including working girls, etc. But there are different types of women too.
I have actually had problems getting to some women "closer" in Central Asia. One of the reason was. I was considered a foreigner and will probably leave the country soon. They would prefer a local but reliable guy than me. Who would less likely to leave them. Many women there do not like to fuck around, it is bad for their reputation. And they do not want to get hurt if somebody leaves them after they get fucked. But if you are there of a long time, then it can be a paradise. Nothing like compared to YewEss.Goga,
I can only take it from your name that you are probably asian, and asian men in particular have a harder time with non asian women no matter where they are. It again has to do with perception. They tend to be smaller in hieght and women gravitate to men who are taller than them. Also the nerd perception of asian men. There have been numerous shows on in America about asian men complaining how asian women are dating non asian men, which leaves alot of the asian men out in the cold. Because they don't have the same opportunities. Of course there are always exceptions to the rules and you will find the occasional Asian guy who can score. But on the whole. They have a much harder time with non-asian women.
You brag about your exploits in poorer asian countries. Well everyone knows anyone with money can get laid by women in those countries. But how many westerners would really want to live there. Having access to pussy is nice but there are also other qualities of life which are needed to live good.
Happy Chappy
05-01-10, 21:46
That's the part people don't seem to get.... why does a relationship that's sexually exclusive get to be labelled "caring" and one that's sexually open HAVE to be labelled as "cold" and a relationship between people who "don't give a fuck" ... why can't we be loving and caring WITHOUT giving up our NATURAL freedom? Why is it that if I LOVE somebody ENOUGH to share them, that means I "don't have feelings" for them??
The thing I like best about p4p is the total and utter TRANSPARENCY in the relationship... In my experience that's WAY better than the average "traditional" relationship I have been in where everything is one big fucking lie... I recognize the need to lie socially under certain circumstances but i DON'T accept it with people I'm close to... THAT is why I will NEVER enter into another monogamous relationship, more than any other reason.
This is a great point. I would also like to add about the idea the married man who raises their own child is very caring and unselfish versus the single childless man who is very selfish.
The married man spends a significant amount of time/energy/resources dedicated to one woman, most likely at the exlusion of time that used to be spent with various other friends. That could be argued to be selfish behaviour. Also think of all the poor children across the world. Rather than potentially sending money to poorer countries to help these children, we often decide to have our own. Most likely this is due to the love our children will show back to us. Think of how much money couples in advanced countries spend on raising their children, and what a similar amount of money could do to those in poorer nations. Does thw world population really need to expand further?
The single man has the potential to care and positively impact many more lives through more friendships/relationships. If they die they can then leave their wealth to some charity. The rich couples pass their wealth down to their offspring, probably some ungrateful spoilt twits.
Not really saying for sure whether I believe in the above, just food for thought. Being single and childless at a relatively old age I do come across the selfish label as per the stereotype above. In an ideal world I would like to have my own children. If I do have my own children though I don't think I will preach to others about what an unselfish and caring act it is.
Goga,
I can only take it from your name that you are probably asian, and asian men in particular have a harder time with non asian women no matter where they are. It again has to do with perception. They tend to be smaller in hieght and women gravitate to men who are taller than them. Also the nerd perception of asian men. There have been numerous shows on in America about asian men complaining how asian women are dating non asian men, which leaves alot of the asian men out in the cold. Because they don't have the same opportunities. Of course there are always exceptions to the rules and you will find the occasional Asian guy who can score. But on the whole. They have a much harder time with non-asian women.
Regarding my nickname, you had already made a strange conclusion before that I'm Chinese.
I have no idea what you were trying to say. That Asians cannot get laid much, no matter where? How about millions of Americans in USA. How come they cannot get laid? Unless they get lucky to have a buttugly loud obnoxious girlfriend or wife there are not much other ways. Except Asian massage parlors, and nasty hookers. I'm sure Asians in Asia have much more opportunities to get laid than Americans in USA.
You brag about your exploits in poorer asian countries. Well everyone knows anyone with money can get laid by women in those countries. But how many westerners would really want to live there. Having access to pussy is nice but there are also other qualities of life which are needed to live good.Exploits? I was writing about the difference in culture and women behavior. Which does not have to do much with money. I have one GF there who does not ask any money, I never spent any money on her except few $ for taxi. We went to a restaurant one time, I paid around $15. She told me I spent too much so we are not going to restaurants anymore. She was coming to my home almost everyday to hang out and fuck. Sometimes she came in the morning before her work. She could not stay overnight since her mother would not allow that.
If it looks like I brag about it, fine. Can someone in USA brag like this? Probably no, no matter how much money he's got. So Americans need to go to other "poorer" countries and offer money to women, what you ThatGuy actually do while telling that USA is no different that other places.
Naked Gunz
05-03-10, 00:01
I just spent 11 days in sex prison. I fucked an old friend of mine (literally as she is 57). It was good sex and she is in very good shape for her age. I have known her for 30 years and fucked her off and on for 18 years.
So what was the problem? She kept complaining about her boyfriend/common-law husband, who she's been with for about fifteen years. He's fat, he doesn't do anything around the house, he spends all his time on the computer. He's "emotionally unavailable," whatever the fuck that means. In fact she complains about him constantly to anyone who will listen and often criticizes him in public when he is there.
Hmmm. He pays 100% of the mortgage and utility bills. It was his house to begin with. He puts up with her six stupid little dogs and takes care of them on her frequent trips out of town to be with her friends, trips on which he is never invited and on which she often fucks around. I spent half a Saturday at her house, drinking (his beer) and smoking weed and playing cards. Meanwhile he was taking all the baseboards off and refinishing them, laying paving stones in HER garden, and he went and did the grocery shopping.
I sort of felt sorry for the guy as I was fucking her, but not really.
Well, after being unable to connect with this site due to Middle east blockage and govt technical problems, I'm finally stateside and able to jump in again fresh off a plane from Singapore.
Wow, you guys have been busy I see putting your opinions online and venting frustrations. Seems you guys are fighting more with each other more than usual, which I have never understood when it comes to men discussing women. Personally when it comes to the AW forum, I have no more frustrations because they are virtually OUT OF MY LIFE. Yet I was drawn here because like a car wreck..I have to look as I drive by.
Mr. Heads post was the closest to what I can relate to in that as I recall the young sweet Thai I banged before coming home, I am so happy to be single and just can't imagine getting married again.
I admit, I do feel that the whole happy fam thing, but I am bombarded with images in my own country
-how the fat assed car rental chick, (size 50 waist min), sighed to me how she needs a life.
-how the equally fat cell phone chick wished she lived in my hometown
-how John Edwards cock truly got his ass in deeper trouble than just being with a fat, ugly,controlling and seriouslly ill wife.
-jeez how many freakin McDonalds are there here?
Well, I love AW p*ssy too, except the fat ones, so I'll leave that for my amigos stuck here...all the best! NG
Gentleman Travel
05-03-10, 21:50
i don't usually go ballistic over idiotic posts, especially on this thread,
which is always well provided with such posts, but this one is so egregiously
stupid that it deserves special attention...
this is a great point. i would also like to add about the idea the married man who raises their own child is very caring and unselfish versus the single childless man who is very selfish.
i would not use "selfish" or "unselfish" to make this distinction.
maybe self-centered or self-indulgent, but even then it is a dubious proposition.
family men can be very selfish and single people can be very selfless,
that depends on a lot of factors beyond the presence or absence of children.
but a caring parent is going to have to be unselfish much of the time;
they have to give attention, time and resources to their children,
when they might prefer to be doing other (self indulgent) things.
the married man spends a significant amount of time/energy/resources dedicated to one woman, most likely at the exlusion of time that used to be spent with various other friends. that could be argued to be selfish behaviour.
only by a very stupid person.
you are suggesting it is selfish of a man to spend time with his family rather than out drinking with his buddies?
this is a new and bizarre definition of the word "selfish"!
also think of all the poor children across the world. rather than potentially sending money to poorer countries to help these children, we often decide to have our own. most likely this is due to the love our children will show back to us. think of how much money couples in advanced countries spend on raising their children, and what a similar amount of money could do to those in poorer nations. does thw world population really need to expand further?
so the time and effort and money i spend raising my own children (selfishly),
you selfless donate to poor children across the world, right? bullshit!
fyi, giving an ****d asian orphan $5 to suck your limp dick does not count as a charitable donation!!
the single man has the potential to care and positively impact many more lives through more friendships/relationships. if they die they can then leave their wealth to some charity. the rich couples pass their wealth down to their offspring, probably some ungrateful spoilt twits.
well, speak for yourself, i am sure your parents (if you even knew them) were disappointed with the ungrateful spoilt twit they raised.
how kids turn out has a lot to do with how they are raised.
invest time and energy and care in them and they'll probably turn out okay.
so your will dedicates your worldly wealth to charity? again, bullshit!
i work with charitable wills every day and i know the typical profiles of those who leave legacies, and it ain't mongers...
face it chappy, you are not an aging single man because you have selflessly decided to refrain from populating an overburdened world with little chappies.
you are old and alone and childless because you could never find anyone who would fuck you for free!
hey, i have no problem with mongers living hedonistic, self-indulgent lives, i indulge in this a bit myself.
go to it! fill your boots! if you don't want children or marriage, don't do it!
just don't pretend that it is a more natural or honourable lifestyle than having a family and social responsibilities.
just don't pretend that it is a more natural or honourable lifestyle than having a family and social responsibilities.
i don't think he was saying that in his post, he was merely playing devil's advocate when it comes to the pc belief that men should marry and have kids for the good of society.
but this made me crack the fuck up:
fyi, giving an ****d asian orphan $5 to suck your limp dick does not count as a charitable donation!!
"fyi, giving an ****d asian orphan $5 to suck your limp dick does not count as a charitable donation!!"
shit. now i have to go amend my tax return. i hate it when that happens.
Happy Chappy
05-04-10, 10:04
Some should read my post carefully..
"Not really saying for sure whether I believe in the above, just food for thought"
I thought it was pretty clear from the above that I am trying to challenge widespread beliefs and convention, and as BH Bound successfully managed to grasp in his post, attempting to play devil's advocate.
GT I think my personal opinion is best summed up from when you said "Family men can be very selfish and single people can be very selfless,
that depends on a lot of factors beyond the presence or absence of children.
"
But you seem to have formed your own personal opinion of me, I assume you must know me very well.
i hope this isn't true.
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=an.g9gof2drccijrqd7aya6bvzx4/sig=158kldh99/**http%3a//us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/local/new_york/wcbs-tv_new_york/fp/sig=128qd8psu/**http%253a%252f%252fwcbstv.com%252flocal%252flawrence.taylor.[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).2.1678714.html
DJ FourMoney
05-07-10, 20:46
i hope this isn't true.
http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=an.g9gof2drccijrqd7aya6bvzx4/sig=158kldh99/**http%3a//us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/local/new_york/wcbs-tv_new_york/fp/sig=128qd8psu/**http%253a%252f%252fwcbstv.com%252flocal%252flawrence.taylor.[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).2.1678714.html
its been reported she lied about her age, but as you know in our inverted legal system that's much more of a crime for lt than for the 30 year female teacher that just got 1 year in jail including time served (so many 90 days in jail if that), 3 probation and has to reg as a "sex offender" here in california.
lt being black and of course the legal system wanting to make an example out of him will throw him under the jail.
sad sad day...
its been reported she lied about her age, but as you know in our inverted legal system that's much more of a crime for lt than for the 30 year female teacher that just got 1 year in jail including time served (so many 90 days in jail if that), 3 probation and has to reg as a "sex offender" here in california.
lt being black and of course the legal system wanting to make an example out of him will throw him under the jail.
sad sad day...
i just saw that she lied about her age. 19 is a number used by many **** girls. just coming to the conclusion that 19 "will pass" with the customer should have been a deterrent.
if you are going to bust lt you might as well bring in the *girl and the pimp.
lt messed up by dealing with pimps and not thinking straight but the girl is just as easy to blame.
ummm ... ****d people often use poor judgement and that is a big part of the reason statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) laws exist. and they did arrest the pimp. what do want to arrest the girl for, getting beat up or getting raped, or what exactly?
fwiw...child prostitution has reached epidemic proportions in most major u.s.cities. prosecutors will make a prime example of lt and haul his ass to jail for a very long time. sorry i have zero sympathy for lt, mike tyson, michael vick, ray lewis, ray carruth, micheal irving, pacman jones, the 10 black players from the bengals arrested in the last year and a half. ron artest, allen iverson, sprewell, tank johnson, and on and on. guys blessed with superior talent, money,fame and fortune, then they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) it all down the toilet.
i just saw that she lied about her age. 19 is a number used by many **** girls. just coming to the conclusion that 19 "will pass" with the customer should have been a deterrent.
if you are going to bust lt you might as well bring in the *girl and the pimp.
lt messed up by dealing with pimps and not thinking straight but the girl is just as easy to blame.
Bango Cheito
05-08-10, 01:55
Pfffff that little Machiavellian **** found out who her client was and is taking this one all the way to the bank you can count on that!!! How incredibly convenient that she FINALLY managed to text her uncle after her first famous client!!! Shades of Traci Lords, anyone??
See, I told you that McCourt chick wouldn't get a million dollars a month:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-owner-Jamie-McCourt-divorce-awarded-050710
I guess the moral of the story is don't buy that seventh house. Just stick with the six.
OMG!
I think that was her plan all along, ask for $1 mill and assume the Judge would award her half the amount.
See, I told you that McCourt chick wouldn't get a million dollars a month:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-owner-Jamie-McCourt-divorce-awarded-050710
I guess the moral of the story is don't buy that seventh house. Just stick with the six.
OMG!
This is not $637,000, or $637,000 per year. This is $637,000 per month. This is mind-boggling. To put it in perspective, he could probably have her whacked for $10,000. I'm just sayin'.
Another way of putting it in perspective is she would have to fuck Lawrence Taylor 2,123 and 1/3 times to earn the same amount of money.
Oh, wait a minute; that would be earning the money. My bad.
This is not $637,000, or $637,000 per year. This is $637,000 per month. This is mind-boggling. To put it in perspective, he could probably have her whacked for $10,000. I'm just sayin'.
Another way of putting it in perspective is she would have to fuck Lawrence Taylor 2,123 and 1/3 times to earn the same amount of money.
Oh, wait a minute; that would be earning the money. My bad.
That...is a lot of money. God damn. The thing is, she has 4 million saved up in an account and about half a million in cash. Plus she gets all 7 homes. And she wants half of the team. This guy must be kicking himself for marrying her, but honestly, I bet a lot of that goes away when he looks at his own savings account. It says together they're worth 1.2 billion, so he's not exactly hurting for money. Unfortunate, yes, but do I feel sorry for him, hell no. By the way your last line made me crack up. So true.
DJ FourMoney
05-09-10, 03:01
This is not $637,000, or $637,000 per year. This is $637,000 per month. This is mind-boggling. To put it in perspective, he could probably have her whacked for $10,000. I'm just sayin'.
Of course the rumors about Carroll Rosenbloom and Georgia Frontiere could be true but she took the truth with her to her grave.
In 1979, Rosenbloom drowned while swimming in the ocean behind his Golden Beach, Florida, home. An investigation into his death found no evidence of foul play and determined his death to be an accidental drowning.
Four years after his death, in the premiere episode of the PBS series Frontline, Rosenbloom's death was cited as an example of the seamy side of the National Football League. Using interviews with reported mobsters who claimed Rosenbloom's legs had been held to cause his drowning, the report showed gruesome autopsy photos of Rosenbloom's body.
Following his death, Rosenbloom's wife Georgia Frontiere inherited the Rams,[5] moving the team to Anaheim for the 1980 season, and moving the Rams again to her native St. Louis in 1995
DJ FourMoney
05-09-10, 03:06
FWIW...child prostitution has reached epidemic proportions in most major U.S.cities. Prosecutors will make a prime example of LT and haul his ass to jail for a very long time. Sorry I have zero sympathy for LT, Mike Tyson, Michael Vick, Ray Lewis, Ray Carruth, Micheal Irving, Pacman Jones, the 10 black players from the Bengals arrested in the last year and a half. Ron Artest, Allen Iverson, Sprewell, Tank johnson, and on and on. Guys blessed with superior talent, money,fame and fortune, then they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) it all down the toilet.
Hey I don't either especially Carruth... He's Class A moron.
But LT's is like many other Americans they have no clue for what's going on. Why risk getting caught up in the American justice system for barely legal trim, only to find out the trim is Jail Bait.
My guess is LT doesn't know what ISG is...
I wouldn't put LT in the same sentence as Pacman Jones. LT is a legend who thought he was doing what everyone else on this forum does. He just got caught up using a stupid pimp.
When Theismann broke his leg, LT was the first one to yell over to Theismann's sideline for medical help.
Can you tell I'm a Giants fan?
...Prosecutors will make a prime example of LT and haul his ass to jail for a very long time. Sorry I have zero sympathy for... [various gentlemen]
And this is why they always win, Capt. Once the fraternity is broken, we are all doomed. (see posts by Humble Turd/That Asshole).
LT is a legend who thought he was doing what everyone else on this forum does.
Count me out. I would never fool around with a 15/16 year old girl.
Bango Cheito
05-10-10, 05:00
How would you KNOW? Have you asked every hooker you ever banged for ID? Could you tell a real cedula from a false one in some Latin American country?
i said "he thought he was doing". before he was approached by law enforcement, how was he supposed to know the girl was ****?
how could he know she was 16? if some guy came to me and was like "yo i have this hot *****, and she's so hot and young. she's 16 man!" i'd immediately just walk away. i'm pretty sure lt would, too. just too much to lose.
Man all these idiots in this thread (not the posters, the subjects of conversation).
If I was any of these guys I'd just leave the country(prior to arrest). Everyone gets so settled in their lives, they just dont take the risk of going somewhere new or what?
If I was retired with millions and had a vice for x, y or z... just go to where you can do it. I think that's what a lot of people on ISG are doing anyway. USA is too screwed up, you will not get away with anything there.
Gentleman Travel
05-10-10, 22:07
I had to share this little exchange I had with a girl on Craigslist...
I answered an ad from a girl describing herself as a "sugar baby" looking for her sugar daddy. So she send me back this letter and attached photo.
"A lil about me......I'm 5"5 I'm am plus size but not ugly or huge. I have many tatts and piercing but still remain sexy. Ill send a simple pic to get started. As for how much or expectations I'm not really sure but am in need of some serious financial help to get something back in order. I'm drug free and not much of a drinker. I've just hit a hard fall and can't get out of it. Kind of a vicious circle if I may say so.
Cheers
Tasha
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone"
Check out the photo! Talk about typical AW self delusion!! Did she really think someone would pay her for sex??
I'll give you some advice tattz girl - if you want some serious financial help you had better knock over a liquor store or start selling hard drugs, not your flabby ass! And by the way, you ARE ugly and huge!
p.s. if you want to dig you way out of debt, you had better lose the Blackberry that you clearly cannot afford!
DJ FourMoney
05-10-10, 22:53
I had to share this little exchange I had with a girl on Craigslist...
I answered an ad from a girl describing herself as a "sugar baby" looking for her sugar daddy. So she send me back this letter and attached photo.
Check out the photo! Talk about typical AW self delusion!! Did she really think someone would pay her for sex??
I'll give you some advice tattz girl - if you want some serious financial help you had better knock over a liquor store or start selling hard drugs, not your flabby ass! And by the way, you ARE ugly and huge!
p.s. if you want to dig you way out of debt, you had better lose the Blackberry that you clearly cannot afford!
This shouldn't be shocking to anybody especially from CL, which its has quickly degenerated into the trash heap it is.
You couldn't find a worthy romp or mate on CL if you life depended on it.
Its only good for being an online garage sale of sorts.
DJ FourMoney
05-10-10, 22:56
How would you KNOW? Have you asked every hooker you ever banged for ID? Could you tell a real cedula from a false one in some Latin American country?
Nobody ask such questions and while it might seem to be a flimsy defense for LT, it might actually work and be changed from a case about illegal prostitution and he'll get the typical "John" punishment (a slap on the wrist).
Somebody needs to email his lawyer and tell him about ISG...
I answered an ad from a girl describing herself as a "sugar baby" looking for her sugar daddy. So she send me back this letter and attached photo. Talk about typical AW self delusion!! Did she really think someone would pay her for sex??!It sent me looking for the "other party" in the famous Winston Churchill quote: she who said, "If you were my husband I'd poison your coffee," to which he replied "If I were your husband I'd drink it!"
Aside from the ornaments, that deadpan face says "I'm looking for someone to blame, and you're the best candidate I've found today." She may be younger than Janet Napolitano, but not half as sexy.
Bango Cheito
05-11-10, 06:33
Nobody ask such questions and while it might seem to be a flimsy defense for LT, it might actually work and be changed from a case about illegal prostitution and he'll get the typical "John" punishment (a slap on the wrist).
Somebody needs to email his lawyer and tell him about ISG...
Actually in just about any jurisdiction (INCLUDING here in Colombia) when it comes to sex with a minor ignorance of the girl's REAL age is not considered a valid defense. Of course here the age is 14 country wide unless she's either a sex worker or a virgin. Under NORMAL circumstances if a 16 or 17 year old gets fake ID *(good fake ID is REAL easy to get here) and is working as a hooker it's not like they're going to start tracking down scores and scores of clients.... but if you're really high profile it all of a sudden can turn into a real feeding frenzy&witch hunt :S
Gentleman Travel
05-11-10, 18:21
It sent me looking for the "other party" in the famous Winston Churchill quote: she who said, "If you were my husband I'd poison your coffee," to which he replied "If I were your husband I'd drink it!"Churchill said that to Lady Astor.
The other similar great retort was to Bessie Braddock, MP
Braddock: Winston, you are drunk!
Churchill: Bessie, you are ugly! But I shall be sober in the morning.
DJ FourMoney
05-13-10, 09:42
Actually in just about any jurisdiction (INCLUDING here in Colombia) when it comes to sex with a minor ignorance of the girl's REAL age is not considered a valid defense. Of course here the age is 14 country wide unless she's either a sex worker or a virgin. Under NORMAL circumstances if a 16 or 17 year old gets fake ID *(good fake ID is REAL easy to get here) and is working as a hooker it's not like they're going to start tracking down scores and scores of clients.... but if you're really high profile it all of a sudden can turn into a real feeding frenzy&witch hunt :S
This is true but it pays to have a good lawyer...
Churchill said that to Lady Astor.
The other similar great retort was to Bessie Braddock, MP
Braddock: Winston, you are drunk!
Churchill: Bessie, you are ugly! But I shall be sober in the morning.
Hah, I had to google some Churchill quotes after reading this. Here's another one I liked
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else."
Met some Chinese American broad on-line. She's residing close to here.
Turns she's bisexual, double Ds, shaved pussy, loves sex, according to her own volunteered account. 33 years old, doesn't like children. Sounds like she's very financially independent. Otherwise, my only criticism is she's a little moonfaced, but who cares?
All I can think is there has to be some very serious psychosis lurking in there.
I also never get how women expect men to commit to marriage when the women don't want children. I mean, I can understand doing it for the sake of children, but if she's your typical dog and cat collector, what's the point?
DJ FourMoney
05-14-10, 19:15
Hah, I had to google some Churchill quotes after reading this. Here's another one I liked
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else."
I forgot he is the one that said that and its OH so true.
Met some Chinese American broad on-line. She's residing close to here.
Turns she's bisexual, double Ds, shaved pussy, loves sex, according to her own volunteered account. 33 years old, doesn't like children. Sounds like she's very financially independent. Otherwise, my only criticism is she's a little moonfaced, Why would you still consider meeting such women in USA online? I've tried some time before, never met the same one who was on the pic! They always put photo either 10 y.o. younger or 30 lbs lighter.
I recently came back from Colombia, prior to that got some contacts from http://www.romancelatina.com/ some pretty good-looking girls.
Completely different scene to USA online dating. They also publish their parties pics on http://www.flickr.com/photos/romancelatina_com/
USA dating/parties is a joke compared to that.
Rubber Nursey
05-17-10, 04:45
It looks like a few of you cruise these places. I was wondering if you might have come across any social lending sites that offer decent-sized loans which DON'T involve repayments in sex...ie. proper loans with contracts and cash repayments? I've been searching around and all I can find are sugar daddy sites and micro-loans (mostly focused on developing countries).
Sorry for the off topic post. Just seemed like something you guys might know about. x
Actually, this one looked a little better than her pic, though she's still chunky. But quite a sexual appetite, and though she does talk a lot of about well she does financially, I did foot most of the bill for the date.
If memory through the booze is correct, I think she blew me once and I nailed her five times.
I haven't been with that many working women overseas, but I can say that sometime I like going to a massage place because I'm not the one doing all the work there. As opposed to fucking here, when I really get tired after six shots.
And, of course, I don't always have the time to travel to South America.
This girl's conversation kind of got on my nerves with talk of money, etc. Expensive paintings, lah, lah. Hard to find a down to earth girl.
Actually, this one looked a little better than her pic, though she's still chunky. But quite a sexual appetite, and though she does talk a lot of about well she does financially, I did foot most of the bill for the date.
This girl's conversation kind of got on my nerves with talk of money, etc. Expensive paintings, lah, lah. Hard to find a down to earth girl.After spending time in south America and Central Asia I would look only at what is at least twice thinner than what is considered "thin" in USA.
You got a good point regarding their bullshit about money, finances. About 2 years ago I spoke with an American girl, she was so much in love with her BMW (like it was her life-time achievement), I was wondering that she had better start making her ass thinner than trying to impress men with her expensive car and education.
Even though my English is much better than Spanish I prefer talking to Latin working(or non working. Does not matter) girls, much more fun. Last week had several parties in Colombia, completely different stuff.
So one thing I didn't do with this chick was wear a rubber. Because after she blew me, she stuffed my cock inside her and started riding. Felt great. But I blew inside her.
But thank God, she bought the morning after pill the next day. Let's hope it worked. Anyway, life has taught me to be positive, so the worst case scenario is I'd have a half Chinese son whose mother would poison his mind against me. At least he'd pass for white. :)
Anyway, I banged her five times after the BJ. Tonight I asked her if next time there was anything I could do to make it better for her.
"Last longer," she said.
Last longer? Heck, I LIKE to come fast. And since I'm doing all the work, I want to take a break soon and drink some water.
It's like in porn, when some of the girls say, "Are you gonna come for me, baby?" Nope. it's all about me, babe. I'm coming for me.
CherchezFemme
05-19-10, 01:45
I posted this yesterday in another forum in ISG then realized it really fits better here since its about AW.
(Mod if this is considered a double post, sorry)
Speaking of AW, I've been pretty frustrated the last month or so. The weather's warm, I'm horny as fuck, I don't want to spend 200-300 on an escort cuz I'm going to Prague soon and I can get 4-5 girls for that price, and I'm getting rejected left and right. I've tried to friend 3 girls on Facebook, all 3 have not even replied, much less friended. 1 I went to HS with, 1 I went to college with, and 1 by large coincidence is friends with 2 other friends. I'm getting ignored by cunts on FB! The HS girl has over 600 friends and I'm getting ignored. WTF! BTW all 3 are in their mid-30s and not married. You'd think they might be just the slightest bit interested, I mean after all they know me, we have things in common, etc.
Then I'm talking to girls on dating sites, and have been flaked on multiple times. Almost every response I get on these sites is form fat/ugly girls. I don't play that.
To make matters worse, there 's 4 girls interested in me, and I don't want to touch any of 'em. Its horrible, I'm living in a world where what I want I can't have, and what I can have I don't want.
Plus I had a date with a gorgeous girl recently, now she's ignoring me.
I go to bars, MILFs and cougars look at me like I'm a weirdo. I'm in my mid-30s and already too old for them I guess.
Here's something I wrote to a HS friend a couple of weeks ago.
" I think I'm looking to settle down, meet a nice girl, have babies. The problem is its not easy meeting girls. Especially here in the city. You go out, you flirt, you get phone #s, or you meet girls online and it rarely leads to anything. If the girls are younger, they're having fun and have a bunch of guys after them. You don't know where they're at, what they're thinking. If they're older....man, older girls, ones our age? They are suspicious, set in their ways and not easy to deal with. Though they may be desperate to get married, they have a checklist and if they can't put an "X" through almost every item on the checklist that bears your name, forget it. I've had great conversations with older girls and as soon as I gave one wrong answer or piece of information, that's it, I was done.
Its ironic: when I was in my early-mid 20s, I was in shape, had a full head of hair but no money, no car and still kind of shy/awkward with the ladies. 10-12 years later I have money, I'm much more confident, experienced, have a car, etc but I'm fat again and balding so I'm still handicapped.
I'm trying not to be bitter about dating because a) I'm still too young for that and b) I'm not a b**ch. But if in a few years things are still rough, I may have to look overseas. "
CherchezFemme
05-19-10, 01:52
if that was true why are Men in other countries where woman are submissive still fuck around. There is no country in the world where men are faitful. Period. No matter how domesticated the women might B. Hell in most of the those countries. The men are notorious for having mistresses.
So why is that?
Pussification of men. Men are made to feel ashamed for being men. There has been an all-out assault on American men, especially white men (but that's a whole 'nother story).
-Title IX is one of the worst things to ever happen to american manhood.
-Feminism.
- Too many women teachers in schools.
-End of obligatory military service (tho this is not a bad thing it certainly doesn't help).
-Equal employment opportunities that take jobs from men to give them to women so many more men have shitty ass jobs instead of being the bread winners we are genetically programmed to be. Men more than women need to be proud of their work and proud of taking care of their families.
-Many good blue collar jobs going overseas.
- Political correctness
-Estrogen containing compounds in our food and drink.
And so on....
CherchezFemme
05-19-10, 02:10
Originally Posted by Dymytry
I wonder, guys, if the life of a man in USA is as bad as you have wrote.
I have heard terrible things about feminist laws in USA, for example they can call police if you touch a girl sexually without asking her permission (while dancing closely in a club for example), or that in clubs and bars there is always a few girls surrounded by crowds of men. It is not similiar to Sex and the City series, why?
Dymytry:
google "Ben Roethlisberger"
CherchezFemme
05-19-10, 02:20
I agree. I am a native new yorker myself. You NEED a few things going for you in new york. It doesn't always take money but in those cases you need PULL such as a strong "hip" social circle. The lone guy going out to a bar to score may do so but it takes a certain type.
I'm old school NY. I used to meet cool people all the time in clubs or just hanging out in parks and on the street. A true NYer is very welcoming to *anybody that is comfortable with themselves.
The crowd is different now and so are the drink prices and rules. I don't think it's worth my time anymore since I started traveling.
Just wanted to tell you I really identify w/ your post about NYC. I'm a native NYer as well, its real nice to know there's another one on here. We're a dying breed it seems like. hard to believe in a city this big.
What you said about NYers is spot on. I used to meet cool people all the time, from when I was in junior high til college. Now its all these ppl that moved here from somewhere else and are pretending to be something. All my old haunts in the East Village and mid-town have disappeared save for 1 or 2. Many of the kids I grew up with in mid-town would, 90% of them, not have grown up there b/c their parents now wouldn't be able to afford it - including mine.
I bought a round for 5 the other night at a roof top bar, 75 fucking dollars b4 tip. Stuck up c#nts everywhere, you can't even engage in a nice relaxed convo.
I hear its better the farther away you get from the Northeast tho I'm not sure I believe it. I had the misfortune of living in Ohio for awhile and it was horrible too. And people were NOT nicer, that's bullsh#t.
CherchezFemme
05-19-10, 02:33
Great post. A lot of truth in it.
What follows is NOT a reflection of conditions in my own current marriage; but a compilation of data from my own first marriage plus the experiences of several men who cheated on their wives who have spoken with me at great length about their motivations over the years.
I do not believe all appreciation for the providers is a function of age and the man's inferior sex appeal per-se. Rather, it is a function of experience.
Most married men, I believe, if they had a better home life, would not cheat. Obviously, some would no matter what. But most wouldn't. Most men find self-value in adhering to promises, meeting responsibilities, etc.
But there is an absolute epidemic out there of wives failing to provide for the most basic of a husband's needs: appreciation, acceptance, approval and physically demonstrable affection. Men are nagged endlessly, treated as accessories and disposable gateways to a lifestyle, disrespected and talked down to, (even in public) etc.
Their wives try to force husbands to be more feminine; turn them into girlfriends and shrinks, and then stop finding them attractive when they comply. The list is endless. (Not all marriages are like this. I'm talking about those of a large proportion of men who end up cheating.)
It is not at all unusual for wives to treat their pets or total strangers with higher regard than the husbands who provide for them. These men are exposed to endless emotional and psychological ABUSE day-in and day-out. They take it out of misplaced loyalty, for the sake of kids (who really shouldn't grow up learning that men should be treated that way), because their wives have destroyed their self-esteem, a biased legal system, etc.
Your average woman wouldn't take even a tenth of the abuse that men do these days.
When their self-centered, self-important and scandalously selfish wives concede to sex; it is often taken care of with about as much ardor as taking a shit.
The double standards in the home are breathtaking; and the manipulation is endless. If he doesn't let her go spend a day at the spa with the girls, he is being "controlling;" but if he wants to go spend Saturday down at the golf course, "he doesn't love her."
These men are absolutely STARVED for acceptance, basic respectful treatment, physically demonstrated affection and to just plain be treated fairly like normally-valued HUMAN BEINGS. They want an outlet where they can express their primal manhood without being treated as though they are an icky pariah barely deserving of drawing breath.
A provider, albeit for a fee, treats her client with normal human respect and dignity; accepts him as he is, gives him tacit approval to be a man in an environment free from "gotchas" and makes love to him enthusiastically. Like she means it. (Even if she doesn't. The man will suspend disbelief. Though -- maybe I am a bit naive -- I really DO think some providers really mean it. How they manage it, I don't know.)
Of COURSE he is appreciative. He is as appreciative as a starving man placed in front of a plate of spaghetti.
But it isn't just the sex that makes them appreciative. It is the ATTITUDE. Giving a man a great buildup and one hellatious orgasm does not take more than an hour. The reason men book providers for more than an hour is because they need more than the orgasm from her.
And, yes, men ARE easily controlled. Men WANT to please the women in their lives. If they are given acceptance, approval and appreciation coupled with physically demonstrable affection -- they will conquer continents for the woman who does it. And more often than not, they'll remain faithful too.
And when the woman giving the acceptance and physical affection happens to be a provider; depending on just how starved the guy is; she DOES gain a certain level of power. Power that the man's wife surrendered through abusing it. BUT, if she is ethical, that power is not abused; because she already knows what the wife did wrong.
(One reason I think some providers could make really fantastic wives. They get it. They see the results of all the other women's mistakes.)
So I think an older guy's appreciation for a provider is NOT always a function of the man being unable to get laid by a hottie. MANY hobbyists could do so readily; and seek providers for discretion and to avoid complications in meeting basic human needs.
In fact, I would say a lot of men are a lot more attractive than they think they are. It's just that their sexual self-esteem is in the TANK.
(That's an interesting way to assure fidelity. Make sure your husband feels so damned unattractive that anytime a pretty girl makes a pass at him he believes she's picking on him and couldn't possibly be sincere. Sometimes this technique backfires though.)
So I believe that a major reason why guys with experience appreciate providers so much is because of the way providers TREAT them.
CherchezFemme
05-19-10, 02:34
NYC in the past 15 years has lost EVERYTHING that made it special...!
F#cking 646ers...
DJ FourMoney
05-19-10, 06:49
It looks like a few of you cruise these places. I was wondering if you might have come across any social lending sites that offer decent-sized loans which DON'T involve repayments in sex...ie. proper loans with contracts and cash repayments? I've been searching around and all I can find are sugar daddy sites and micro-loans (mostly focused on developing countries).
Sorry for the off topic post. Just seemed like something you guys might know about. x
I'm not familiar with the AUS/NZ Financial System and ethical banking is not mainstream yet. Nobody is giving out loans or haven't you noticed? Only to wealth banks, via crashing economies.
Unless your credit score is in the 700's and even then if your debt to income ratio is out of whack they won't give a red cent. How do you even prove your income? What do you file under "Social Worker"? I kid because I care... :)
-Estrogen containing compounds in our food and drink.
Now that was funny.
All kidding aside, if you have the means could you pick up and move somewhere for 6 months? A year? Are you settled in your job? USA is prison to the max, and the country I wouldnt live in if you paid me. If I had no choice I'd be leaving every chance I got. (USA born and raised here).
The worst part about your post is you are in your mid 30's!! I'm probably just a bit younger than you are, but mid 30's in any other place is considered young! Only in USA is this age considered over the hill and getting dirty looks. I was in my early 30's and dating an 18 year old outside USA! Her father was your age and dating a 19 year old.
That's just half of it for me though, there is a ton of other bullshit that goes on in the USA that I can't stand also.
DJ FourMoney
05-19-10, 07:00
That's funny shit! Incredible with how much crazy stuff they would come up to make money from the fucked up people. I also saw a website offering dating women who are currently in American prisons. Is it that bad that one needs to go to prison for a date to find a woman?:)
I'm not sure if you need to feel bad for the poor bastards. On the front page I saw this ad of a 23 y.o. guy who wants to use his tongue on those old big women ... and calls himself the most normal on the site.
If that's the most normal, than who is the rest?
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Age 23 from Dartmouth, Massachusetts - - Online 3 weeks ago
Man seeking Woman
I am around 6 feet tall. Big build. I currently play a college sport. message me to find out which one. I have a great sense of humor and overall, I'm a really nice guy. I just prefer big beautiful women. I am probably the most normal guy on this site. LOL
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Yes there are web sites that promote women in prison, some are scams...
That is hitting the bottom of the barrel IMHO, why would you want to settle down with a woman with criminal record? In most states she can't vote, can't get a decent job, at least not without a degree but even then, depending on the crime, why hire them over somebody without a criminal record?
Sure I have thought about it. I didn't know better then but thank goodness I never ventured down that road.
DJ FourMoney
05-19-10, 07:02
After spending time in south America and Central Asia I would look only at what is at least twice thinner than what is considered "thin" in USA.
You got a good point regarding their bullshit about money, finances. About 2 years ago I spoke with an American girl, she was so much in love with her BMW (like it was her life-time achievement), I was wondering that she had better start making her ass thinner than trying to impress men with her expensive car and education.
Even though my English is much better than Spanish I prefer talking to Latin working(or non working. Does not matter) girls, much more fun. Last week had several parties in Colombia, completely different stuff.
So that Romance Latina is legit? I joined but I wasn't sure and their Flickr page doesn't work right.
DJ FourMoney
05-19-10, 07:08
Now that was funny.
All kidding aside, if you have the means could you pick up and move somewhere for 6 months? A year? Are you settled in your job? USA is prison to the max, and the country I wouldnt live in if you paid me. If I had no choice I'd be leaving every chance I got. (USA born and raised here).
The worst part about your post is you are in your mid 30's!! I'm probably just a bit younger than you are, but mid 30's in any other place is considered young! Only in USA is this age considered over the hill and getting dirty looks. I was in my early 30's and dating an 18 year old outside USA! Her father was your age and dating a 19 year old.
That's just half of it for me though, there is a ton of other bullshit that goes on in the USA that I can't stand also.
That's why I'm going back to school so I can be some value somewhere OUTSIDE of America. I am likely of value outside of America already but the economy makes it less likely for you to be hired over natives which is fine.
I wish I could figure out how to make money from blogging - :)
Clandestine782
05-19-10, 20:29
That's why I'm going back to school so I can be some value somewhere OUTSIDE of America. I am likely of value outside of America already but the economy makes it less likely for you to be hired over natives which is fine.
I wish I could figure out how to make money from blogging - :)1. You want to go over your notes on that one. There are lots of expatriates working here as engineers (mostly Germans, some Americans), and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them to whom I've spoken said that they got their career started in the States (or Germany) and then got transferred here. I've yet to meet anyone who came over here and "got an engineering job." And I sure have tried to figure out how I could get a Chemistry lab job here. No such luck.
2. There is also the problem of your immigration status. The EU countries are VERY GRUMPY about giving residence permits. And when I hear about the unemployment rates in places like Spain and Portugal, I don't wonder why.
3. There are quite a few people in China getting education (lots of Indians attending medical schools here and lots of Africans attending different programs sponsored by their governments). But as many people as I see here getting educations, I have yet to meet a single Indian who actually worked in the hospitals here. (You can come here and pay tuition fees, but you can't work here.) Nor have I met any of the Africans working in any positions of engineering (and the bars near where I live are stuffed with German engineers every night).
4. I don't know why so many people think that the Europeans don't have enough educated people. University degrees are free there (and no surprise that there are probably more of them). But all these well educated Europeans still seem to have trouble finding work.
5. What other languages do you speak? Outside of a science lab, people do expect you to speak the local language fluently if you want to go out looking for a job.
6. There are Africans all over the place in Eastern Europe (at least there were when I last went there many years back) and they all spoke the local language. Your dream of becoming a basketball star over there might not materialize quite as easily as all that.
So that Romance Latina is legit? I joined but I wasn't sure and their Flickr page doesn't work right.Why would not it be legit? Check in Colombia forum. I went to some of their parties in Cali and Medellin. Their Flickr page is working fine in my browser. Compared to most USA dating sites which are mostly scam or filled with buttugly women (just take a look at PlentyOfFish), RomanceLatina is much more legit and has some real good-looking girls.
That's why I'm going back to school so I can be some value somewhere OUTSIDE of America. I am likely of value outside of America already but the economy makes it less likely for you to be hired over natives which is fine.
I wish I could figure out how to make money from blogging - :)I think you better hurry up. Do not wait too long. The world is not as it used to be 10-20 years ago and changing rapidly. Unfortunately.
And the women too! Women in many parts of the world are getting more "educated", local people are getting richer. I do not think an average American can compete for women in places such as Moscow or Kiev anymore. Many people including women make more money than Americans while having less expenses.
Women watch TV/MTV/other crap, many have Internet access. Not good for you(us). Also in some places the fact that you are American may not help as much as it used to be 20 years ago. Of course you still have chances, but not as good as before.
All kidding aside, if you have the means could you pick up and move somewhere for 6 months? A year? Are you settled in your job? USA is prison to the max, and the country I wouldnt live in if you paid me. If I had no choice I'd be leaving every chance I got. (USA born and raised here).
The worst part about your post is you are in your mid 30's!! I'm probably just a bit younger than you are, but mid 30's in any other place is considered young! Only in USA is this age considered over the hill and getting dirty looks. I was in my early 30's and dating an 18 year old outside USA! Her father was your age and dating a 19 year old.
That's just half of it for me though, there is a ton of other bullshit that goes on in the USA that I can't stand also.
I believe the two biggest problems with the USA are the "entitlement attitude" that so many of us have, and the "if you aren't perfect you ain't $#!+" attitude that so many AWs take. Of the two, it's the "AW attitude" that grates most on my nerves.
I can't say I hold myself aloof from entitlements. I worked 36 years in the Federal civil service, and retired when I was eligible; I gladly accept my pension and health benefits, and I'm taking pleasure in my retired life. But I believe I can substantiate my claim that I earned it. What worries me is the legion of people who "didn't serve, but still deserve," and my fear that the USA will go broke trying to deliver on their strident claims.
But that doesn't get me near as much as the AW attitude, that stomps through life with such overweening self-importance; that responds to a smile with a scowl; that insists on "equal rights" PLUS "special priviliges because I'm a woman"; and (as I said above) shows nothing but contempt for any man who doesn't "ring all her bells" and meet with the envious approval of her girlish clique. Like the "girl" Gentleman Travel spotted on Craigslist, looking for a "sugar daddy" and displaying far more vinegar than honey.
Fortunately, we on ISG are aware that we don't have to settle for such. We can still travel to other lands, where we can get "the sweetness we've been crying for" without all that AW baggage. We still have our risks to face, yes, but that bargirl in Pattaya or Angeles City or Sosua or wherever isn't going to get you fired for sexual harassment if you get too snuggly with her.
(Hmm. That almosts sounds wise enough for a "senior member!")
Bango Cheito
05-20-10, 03:34
As far as high standards, Colombian women have WAY higher standards than AW in every conceivable area EXCEPT money and age.
DJ FourMoney
05-20-10, 03:44
1. You want to go over your notes on that one. There are lots of expatriates working here as engineers (mostly Germans, some Americans), and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them to whom I've spoken said that they got their career started in the States (or Germany) and then got transferred here. I've yet to meet anyone who came over here and "got an engineering job." And I sure have tried to figure out how I could get a Chemistry lab job here. No such luck.
2. There is also the problem of your immigration status. The EU countries are VERY GRUMPY about giving residence permits. And when I hear about the unemployment rates in places like Spain and Portugal, I don't wonder why.
3. There are quite a few people in China getting education (lots of Indians attending medical schools here and lots of Africans attending different programs sponsored by their governments). But as many people as I see here getting educations, I have yet to meet a single Indian who actually worked in the hospitals here. (You can come here and pay tuition fees, but you can't work here.) Nor have I met any of the Africans working in any positions of engineering (and the bars near where I live are stuffed with German engineers every night).
4. I don't know why so many people think that the Europeans don't have enough educated people. University degrees are free there (and no surprise that there are probably more of them). But all these well educated Europeans still seem to have trouble finding work.
5. What other languages do you speak? Outside of a science lab, people do expect you to speak the local language fluently if you want to go out looking for a job.
6. There are Africans all over the place in Eastern Europe (at least there were when I last went there many years back) and they all spoke the local language. Your dream of becoming a basketball star over there might not materialize quite as easily as all that.
Basketball??? Where did you get that from?
Not sure what do think about the rest of your post.
Clandestine782
05-20-10, 05:19
basketball??? where did you get that from?
not sure what do think about the rest of your post."basketball star"=figure of speech=man who gets anonymous pussy in the mail just because of what he is. i could have said "rock star"........ or "rapper" or...... (well, you get the idea).
so, now that that is clarified, maybe the rest of the post makes sense.
I believe the two biggest problems with the USA are the "entitlement attitude" that so many of us have, and the "if you aren't perfect you ain't $#!+" attitude that so many AWs take. Of the two, it's the "AW attitude" that grates most on my nerves.
I can't say I hold myself aloof from entitlements. I worked 36 years in the Federal civil service, and retired when I was eligible; I gladly accept my pension and health benefits, and I'm taking pleasure in my retired life. But I believe I can substantiate my claim that I earned it. What worries me is the legion of people who "didn't serve, but still deserve," and my fear that the USA will go broke trying to deliver on their strident claims.
But that doesn't get me near as much as the AW attitude, that stomps through life with such overweening self-importance; that responds to a smile with a scowl; that insists on "equal rights" PLUS "special priviliges because I'm a woman"; and (as I said above) shows nothing but contempt for any man who doesn't "ring all her bells" and meet with the envious approval of her girlish clique. Like the "girl" Gentleman Travel spotted on Craigslist, looking for a "sugar daddy" and displaying far more vinegar than honey.
Fortunately, we on ISG are aware that we don't have to settle for such. We can still travel to other lands, where we can get "the sweetness we've been crying for" without all that AW baggage. We still have our risks to face, yes, but that bargirl in Pattaya or Angeles City or Sosua or wherever isn't going to get you fired for sexual harassment if you get too snuggly with her.
(Hmm. That almosts sounds wise enough for a "senior member!")
Hah! very true, I liked the 'didnt serve and still deserve' part. USA is in one big bubble with this next generation, isnt what made the country great hard work?
DJ FourMoney
05-20-10, 11:47
"basketball star"=figure of speech=man who gets anonymous pussy in the mail just because of what he is. i could have said "rock star"........ or "rapper" or...... (well, you get the idea).
so, now that that is clarified, maybe the rest of the post makes sense.
sort of...
Am from Kenya(mid 30s born and bred)and I have never dated AWs, I only see them in movies. My opinion is that since time immemorial and unstable economic dynamics, majority of women worldwide still seek financial security as the most important trait in dating a man. Infact am seeing an upsurge in weddings and multi-million divorce cases here at home meaning we Africans are aping so much western lifestyle. Here the man is ignorant about pre-nups so he is always disadvantaged in divorce due to government law and increasing strong women rights groups that preaches single hood. Its the disintergration of the alpha male, dying traditional modern family and increasing independent woman (courtesy of beyounce) thats driving so many women to avoid marriage.
My 50cents.
As far as high standards, Colombian women have WAY higher standards than AW in every conceivable area EXCEPT money and age.
Unfortunately, I've not met a good Colombian woman in the U.S.A. yet. I've had better luck with women from other Central and South America countries.
America: love it or leave it. I loved it before I started traveling and found out just how ethnocentrically naieve and sexually deprived we are. Not to mention the bias against anyone over the age of 30; and all the broads with fat asses and big mouths who don't know how to use them properly ;). So now I leave whenever I can. I travel and bang beautiful busty foreign girls one third my age every chance I get. Mostly Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand, Tijuana but also been to Brasil, Jamaica, Australia, Hong Kong, Korea, Singapore and Indonesia.
On the to do list in the next two years is Cambodia, Malaysia, Greece, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Curacao and Colombia. This forum allows me the opportunity to do my homework before I go. Guys, I am not rich but I am doing ok. I travel for business (mostly). I am a business professor who gets to make presentations on business research that I wrote and is accepted for publication. It's great fun and a I am a firm believer in education because it allows me to travel. There is a network here in ISG that unites men with beautiful worldly women in ways that nothing else could.
I will eventually leave the USA for good and am seriously considering Negros Island in Philippines (next to Cebu) in the next 10 years. It is not a monger's destination. I don't want a monger's destination when I retire. I want to find a busty young college-educated beautiful nurse to give this old man a baby and start a family. But til then I am going to bang as many non-Americans as I can.
Now when I see a sweet young thing in America who wouldn't give me the time of day let alone some pussy I just smile and think of her counterparts around the world!
CherchezFemme
05-20-10, 17:18
[QUOTE=Jon32]Now that was funny.
All kidding aside, if you have the means could you pick up and move somewhere for 6 months?/QUOTE]
Actually, chemical compounds in our food is a bigger problem than we realize. Both from a toxicity standpoint awa as a man's standpoint. Many chemicals used in plastics leach into food and drink, or cosmetics, and are absorbed by our bodies and then act as estrogen within us. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenoestrogens
Men should not drink water in plastic bottles, use plastic containers to store and reheat food, use plastic wrap to wrap food in, and stay away from soy containing products.
Anyway that's one part of the equation.
CherchezFemme
05-20-10, 17:23
Since I was procrastinating last night, as I usually do, I went looking on Facebook for probably the stupidest mistake I ever made, which was not banging a gorgeous 5'10 blonde from Iceland when we were both drunk about 15 years ago. I figured what the hell, it can't hurt. So I spent an hour doing searches in Iceland using her first name and what I thought was her last name. I found a few girls that could be her and I wrote them.
She actually responded. Unfortunately she's married and she and her hubby are going to Disney World next month and are going to be in NYC for a couple of days as well. She wants a hotel recommendation.
Oh well, maybe I'll get together with them. At least she actually responded unlike the others...
Bango Cheito
05-20-10, 18:33
Unfortunately, I've not met a good Colombian woman in the U.S.A. yet. I've had better luck with women from other Central and South America countries.
That's a completely different ball of wax though.... Colombians abroad are not always the best ambassadors.... not to mention people in Latin America turn into shit physically within a few years because of the nasty food supply, as has just been mentioned in this thread.... and your standards change a lot based on the flora and fauna of your immediate environment, it's inevitable...
Here in Colombia men AND women are VERY picky about physical appearance.... which I don't think is such a bad thing.... it's probably among the main reasons people here look so damn good all the time!
Hope this guys realizes how extremely lucky he is. Now were can I find a chick that thinks like this?
Should I be concerned? My SO recently caught see looking at another woman, as she has many times before, but instead of teasing me like normal she asked if I would like to do her. I jokingly said yes. She then told me that while she would not tolerate a civilian relationship if I wanted I could see a pro. This caught me really off guard. She explained that men have a natural need to explore. She then set forth the rules. They are:
1. No more then one date a week.
2. I can not see the same lady more then once every two months
3. Ladies must be paid only out of the budgeted money set for my entertainment, hobbies and whims. About $ 1500 a month same a hers.
4. All ladies must be well reviewed and approved buy her. (She says so she knows I am not going to be busted.)
5. I can not turn her down for sex and she a lady that month.
6. I must were a cover when with the pro.
7. I must get tested for std monthly with my fun money.
8. I must keep it secret from everyone else, but must answer all her questions truthfully.
9. No date longer that two hours.
10. No gifts for the pros.
She had this all in writing before she even stared this exchange. We went home and she set me up with my first date and told me the first date is on her. I had a great time. This took me off-guard.We have a good sex life, two or three times a week, and I have never cheated on her until she set it up and paid for it. When I asked why she was going to let me see pros say said, "I want you to live life to the fullest and keep you with me." I love my wife. I am concerned why any woman would encourage there man to play with other women. Should I be concerned about this sudden willingness to share? Nothing has changed sense that night with that lady she payed for. Thanks
Bango Cheito
05-21-10, 01:27
1) put all your cards on the table at the BEGINNING of every relationship. Don't make any promises that you'll break later...
2) be prepared for the majority of women to not accept it, (but the ones that do are the ones most worth it anyways)
Oh Ya Papi
05-21-10, 05:46
tried to send you a pm, but it is full. only 10 saved.
1) put all your cards on the table at the BEGINNING of every relationship. Don't make any promises that you'll break later...
2) be prepared for the majority of women to not accept it, (but the ones that do are the ones most worth it anyways)
one thing i've noticed recently is how when we do land non-pros, we end up doing by far most of the work in the bedroom -- and outside.
after paying for dinner and listening to their life stories and buying drinks and listening to more talk, we might get a bj. but beyond that, aside from brief moments of cowgirl and women accommodating us by getting on all fours, it's basically all on us.
of course, there are exceptions. i've dated a massage therapist, and that's been fairly reciprocal. i've also had great sex with women who were probably molested years ago, but that also entails a lot of booze and drama.
i think if i were married and even getting the pussy access on a regular basis, i'd still probably want a professional massage now and then. now and then, i need a woman to cater to my needs.
Bango Cheito
05-21-10, 15:27
tried to send you a pm, but it is full. only 10 saved.
Fixed....
Women here in Colombia tend to do a LOT more in relationships.... although ironically I broke it off with my ex because in the end she wasn't pulling her weight at all... but IMO she had already bailed on the relationship she just didn't have the pants to leave me :P
Rubber Nursey
05-21-10, 18:18
Unless your credit score is in the 700's and even then if your debt to income ratio is out of whack they won't give a red cent. How do you even prove your income? What do you file under "Social Worker"? I kid because I care... :)
Do you mean when I was hooking? In Australia, you can just file it under 'sex worker'. :) (Or you can pick things like 'entertainer', masseuse', etc if you don't want to leave a sex industry paper trail). Getting paid cash in hand is not always as good as it sounds. These days, you need an income statement and credit history for everything from car loans to rental agreements.
What states in Oz legalize prostitution?
This is really messed up. What did they do to the guy in the rehab? Castrated him? He is even apologizing for his "transgressions"...
According to a Saturday report in the New York Daily News, the wife of Tiger Woods is seeking a whopping $750 million in a divorce settlement -- but not in exchange for her silence. She, so far, has rejected a lifetime confidentiality clause that would prevent her from discussing Woods multiple affairs, whether in books or interviews.
The Daily News also reports she wants full custody of the couple's kids, daughter Sam, nearly 3, and son Charlie, 15 months.
Woods, 34, stepped away from the game, and even entered rehab. Earlier this year, he apologized for "transgressions."From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100522/SPORTS04/5220405/1361/Report--Tiger-Woods--wife-seeking-$750M-in-divorce--scoffs-at-confidentiality-clause#ixzz0om52WcPt
From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100522/SPORTS04/5220405/1361/Report--Tiger-Woods--wife-seeking-$750M-in-divorce--scoffs-at-confidentiality-clause
Tiger Woods' wife seeking $750M in divorce
This idiot is so screwed, why couldn't he just pay a hooker.
this idiot is so screwed, why couldn't he just pay a hooker.
do you think his wife would have done less to him if she'd caught word he'd been playing with hookers? this is america, the land of the testicular lock-box, the home of divorce courts that hold it as their sacred feminazi duty to butt-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the man in favor of the "poor deceived dishonored dissed wife."
the only sensible thing an american man can do about it is to follow isg and get our jollies offshore.
as for his apologies, that sounds like "stockholm syndrome."
DJ FourMoney
05-25-10, 01:55
This is really messed up. What did they do to the guy in the rehab? Castrated him? He is even apologizing for his "transgressions"...
From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100522/SPORTS04/5220405/1361/Report--Tiger-Woods--wife-seeking-$750M-in-divorce--scoffs-at-confidentiality-clause#ixzz0om52WcPt
From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20100522/SPORTS04/5220405/1361/Report--Tiger-Woods--wife-seeking-$750M-in-divorce--scoffs-at-confidentiality-clause
Because she knows beside the settlement she can make EVEN more with books about her life with Tiger, you would be foolish to give that up without maybe getting more.
As I said before, Tiger thought he was special because he's been told that since childhood. That is somewhat the truth, however he was sloppy and was going to get caught, especially when you leave your cellphone around and rumors start floating.
Its too bad, he'll still be rich even with a settlement of $800-900 Million, I can't even imagine that much money.
This idiot is so screwed, why couldn't he just pay a hooker.But this would be also illegal in USA, so he could get into other kinds of troubles and still face this divorce BS. He is also "lucky" that he did not go to jail as Mike Tyson did.
Its too bad, he'll still be rich even with a settlement of $800-900 Million, I can't even imagine that much money.
Too make it the worlds largest divorce settlement, she should round up the settlement request to ONE Billion dollars.
I agree about "Stockholm Syndrome". Identifying and sympathizing with his jailers, as in all AW. Apology? To the public? Are you kidding me? Outside of his family, it's no one's fucking business!
People seem to forget she threatened him with a deadly weapon, or they make jokes about it. Were the gender roles reversed, something tells me the legal and public reaction would have been slightly different...
Going to hookers would have been even worse. That would have made him a "criminal", meaning perhaps the golf tour could suspend him. And plenty of hookers would want to tell their story for money, so he couldn't trust them to be discreet.
This is proof once again that NO AM is immune from this bullshit, no matter how rich successful and famous he is. Regular guys like us don't stand a chance.
Jeez, come on guys, a billion ain´t what it used to be. I mean, the
TARP bailout was $750 bill, and the deficit is over 2 trillion, maybe she
should try for $13 trillion and 1 billion, and donate the $13 trillion to the
US Treasury to clear the nations debt!
DJ FourMoney
05-27-10, 00:32
But this would be also illegal in USA, so he could get into other kinds of troubles and still face this divorce BS. He is also "lucky" that he did not go to jail as Mike Tyson did.
True, without knowing more about the inner workings of his personal life at home, its hard to comment on what the best course of action was to fulfill a need.
Without rehashing this, he would have been better served NOT GETTING MARRIED.
Its totally possible Ellen wasn't fucking him on a regular basis and since she's not doing anything else but raising the children, that's apart of your job description as "Home Maker".
DJ FourMoney
05-27-10, 00:36
I agree about "Stockholm Syndrome". Identifying and sympathizing with his jailers, as in all AW. Apology? To the public? Are you kidding me? Outside of his family, it's no one's fucking business!
People seem to forget she threatened him with a deadly weapon, or they make jokes about it. Were the gender roles reversed, something tells me the legal and public reaction would have been slightly different...
Going to hookers would have been even worse. That would have made him a "criminal", meaning perhaps the golf tour could suspend him. And plenty of hookers would want to tell their story for money, so he couldn't trust them to be discreet.
This is proof once again that NO AM is immune from this bullshit, no matter how rich successful and famous he is. Regular guys like us don't stand a chance.
Yes the question surrounding the golf club and broken back window were not answered to my satisfaction. It was glossed over by the media who were more interested in finding how many women Tiger fucked than if his wife actually chased him out of the house with a golf club.
This is because in our culture, you are OWNED. Your wife OWNS you, if you allow that to happen.
A fun calculation,
Assuming Tiger did love 750 times to his wife in the course of his marriage. He then paid $1M a pop ! WOW. That is an expensive woman !
As the old punter saying goes : women are always less expensive when one pays for them.
Regards. B.B.
DJ FourMoney
05-27-10, 06:19
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/292307
63% would rather do something else other than have sex with their husbands.
A more horrifying number is 1 in every 10 women have had sex outside the marriage.
This type of stuff mounts up and there's always a fucking excuse, weather it be workload, housework or children, there's always an excuse!
I don't think there are that many knuckle draggers out there that won't help with the children or the housework. But the workload? This is because they want an upper middle class or higher standard of living. Seems to me they rather work more than work less and fuck.
If CL is the sinkhole of personal ads, then Match.com must be the new trash heap.
I notice the ISG Manginas haven't been around lately, maybe that's a good thing.
match.com is not the trash heap of the internet. It is the pig farm. Fatties get fed attention. Their heads and bodies grow to outrageous proportions.
match.com is not the trash heap of the internet. It is the pig farm. Fatties get fed attention. Their heads and bodies grow to outrageous proportions.
Oddly enough some people do very well on match.com . Usually they are the trendy people who watch programs like friends or sex and the city and are more than willing to meet at a "funky" lounge to impress would be piece of ass.
Many moons ago a girl I met on match invited me to have lunch with her. Obviously I accepted. When lunch was over and the bill came I carefully placed *my portion of the bill on the table and her face dropped. She wanted desperately to tell me off but I wasn't having it. No ass = No money.
Alot of these fatties have dates lined up left and right. It's been mentioned many times that some substitute their income by having suckers pay for their entertainment activities.
I know a pig that gets decent looking dick as often as she likes. Guys are desperate..some have no money or knowledge of the game. That's how it goes.
When online dating first came out it was more taboo. Only the bold dared to try it. Now these girls are looking to re enact a sex in the city episode. It works for many people but not the monger types.
Now these girls are looking to re enact a sex in the city episode. It works for many people but not the monger types.Since people mentioned here match.com, I just checked PlentyofFish, made a search, here is an add which popped up among the first ones.
"A 32 year old Woman from California", "Body Type is Average".
- Look at the pic on the left!
Looking for: "Male, Age between 25 and 35".
- So she actually prefers rather a younger guy. Everybody 36 and older do not deserve this princess
"Must not have messaged users looking for intimate encounters or sex"
- Basically she want a guy who is not interested in sex?
Incredible how they manage to come up with such BS crap. From her ad I understood she is saying that if she is mean to you. It is your fault, while she is the nicest person in the universe
"I consider myself to be the best person you will ever know. As a friend or a girlfriend. You would be lucky to have ME in YOUR life. "
Really amazing biyotch, makes me puke
*************************
About Me
People perceive me to have a hard outer shell and for some this statement may be very true. I admit that one of my biggest faults is opening up to strangers. I have high expectations of the people in my life and in return I give you the same. You let me down once and I'll likely cut you out of my life for good. I don't have the patience for people who don't have the desire to be a TRUE friend. I certainly don't associate with people who tend to be shady. For those I let into my life, you have a sneak preview into my soul. I will cherish you until the day I die. Unless you deceive me. I am only looking for people who will remain a positive influence in my life. And never bring me down. Some may say that I don't have a filter system, I call it being HONEST. You will never question where you stand with me, I don't know how to hold sh*t in. I can be the sweetest person you will ever meet and also the biggest *****. It's all in your approach. I do not tolerate people who can't be respectful. I will shut you down in a heartbeat and never think twice about it. I don't lose sleep over people that I am mean to. They most likely deserved it. I have no issues with apologizing. If I'm in the wrong. On the flipside you should be able to do the same. I consider myself to be the best person you will ever know. As a friend or a girlfriend. You would be lucky to have ME in YOUR life. It's not about being conceited. I am an amazing woman, it is up to you to figure that out. I know what I want in life and what makes me happy. And I will NEVER settle for less.
I need someone who can handle my lifestyle and not try to jeopardize everything that I have worked so hard to achieve. You will not succeed. I am an over-achiever in everything that I do, especially my career. My career is my life. And I am very passionate about it.
I love tattoos and have many of them myself. So, if you don't like tattoos. Please stop reading here.
*********************
Anybody wants her? I'll hook you up
I just checked PlentyofFish, made a search, here is an add which popped up among the first ones.
"A 32 year old Woman from California", "Body Type is Average".
Looking for: "Male, Age between 25 and 35".
- So she actually prefers rather a younger guy. Everybody 36 and older do not deserve this princess
"Must not have messaged users looking for intimate encounters or sex"
From her ad I understood she is saying that if she is mean to you. It is your fault, while she is the nicest person in the universe
"I consider myself to be the best person you will ever know. As a friend or a girlfriend. You would be lucky to have ME in YOUR life. "
Anybody wants her? I'll hook you up
I, for one, would really just rather send her a meathook, and let her hook herself up.
Thank you, Goga Fung, for NOT forwarding the photo!
As Artisttyp put it earlier, there are many American men who are desperate enough to "aspire to this American Princess." Every night I go to bed alone I give heartfelt thanks that I know better! And "better" is in Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil, the DR, Thailand, the Philippines, even Tijuana fer krys' sake.
Oh Ya Papi
05-29-10, 02:13
true man wow!!!!
Oddly enough some people do very well on match.com . Usually they are the trendy people who watch programs like friends or sex and the city and are more than willing to meet at a "funky" lounge to impress would be piece of ass.
Many moons ago a girl I met on match invited me to have lunch with her. Obviously I accepted. When lunch was over and the bill came I carefully placed *my portion of the bill on the table and her face dropped. She wanted desperately to tell me off but I wasn't having it. No ass = No money.
Alot of these fatties have dates lined up left and right. It's been mentioned many times that some substitute their income by having suckers pay for their entertainment activities.
I know a pig that gets decent looking dick as often as she likes. Guys are desperate..some have no money or knowledge of the game. That's how it goes.
When online dating first came out it was more taboo. Only the bold dared to try it. Now these girls are looking to re enact a sex in the city episode. It works for many people but not the monger types.
true man wow!!!!
Thanks but I wish I was wrong.
Bango Cheito
05-29-10, 04:58
Admittedly that's filtered through the muck of American "culture" but you know what.... somebody PLEASE find out that woman's birthday..... I'm curious as to whether or not I'm right....
DJ FourMoney
05-29-10, 05:43
Since people mentioned here match.com, I just checked PlentyofFish, made a search, here is an add which popped up among the first ones.
"A 32 year old Woman from California", "Body Type is Average".
- Look at the pic on the left!
Looking for: "Male, Age between 25 and 35".
- So she actually prefers rather a younger guy. Everybody 36 and older do not deserve this princess
"Must not have messaged users looking for intimate encounters or sex"
- Basically she want a guy who is not interested in sex?
Incredible how they manage to come up with such BS crap. From her ad I understood she is saying that if she is mean to you. It is your fault, while she is the nicest person in the universe
"I consider myself to be the best person you will ever know. As a friend or a girlfriend. You would be lucky to have ME in YOUR life. "
Really amazing biyotch, makes me puke
*************************
About Me
People perceive me to have a hard outer shell and for some this statement may be very true. I admit that one of my biggest faults is opening up to strangers. I have high expectations of the people in my life and in return I give you the same. You let me down once and I'll likely cut you out of my life for good. I don't have the patience for people who don't have the desire to be a TRUE friend. I certainly don't associate with people who tend to be shady. For those I let into my life, you have a sneak preview into my soul. I will cherish you until the day I die. Unless you deceive me. I am only looking for people who will remain a positive influence in my life. And never bring me down. Some may say that I don't have a filter system, I call it being HONEST. You will never question where you stand with me, I don't know how to hold sh*t in. I can be the sweetest person you will ever meet and also the biggest *****. It's all in your approach. I do not tolerate people who can't be respectful. I will shut you down in a heartbeat and never think twice about it. I don't lose sleep over people that I am mean to. They most likely deserved it. I have no issues with apologizing. If I'm in the wrong. On the flipside you should be able to do the same. I consider myself to be the best person you will ever know. As a friend or a girlfriend. You would be lucky to have ME in YOUR life. It's not about being conceited. I am an amazing woman, it is up to you to figure that out. I know what I want in life and what makes me happy. And I will NEVER settle for less.
I need someone who can handle my lifestyle and not try to jeopardize everything that I have worked so hard to achieve. You will not succeed. I am an over-achiever in everything that I do, especially my career. My career is my life. And I am very passionate about it.
I love tattoos and have many of them myself. So, if you don't like tattoos. Please stop reading here.
*********************
Anybody wants her? I'll hook you up
Plenty of Fish is horrid as well.
GF: Thanks for the amusement. No I don't wish to see a photo! Ten years ago that ad would have made me angry and sick to my stomach. Now it just makes me laugh. It reads like some overt threat. Every moment with her would be walking on eggshells.
My favorite line is "I'm an amazing woman, it's up to you to figure that out." I see. Translation: "Beneath the anger and hostility, chip on my shoulder, mounds of fat, entitlement attitude, there's this tiny sliver of attractive humanity left deep down and it's YOUR job to bring it out. If you can't do that and all I reveal is my 99% horrid side, it's YOUR fault!"
Thanks again GF. Now I'll return to attending to the Japanese hottie whom I've been banging twice daily for the past couple of years. No drama, BS, feminism, or emasculation. Just companionship and good times. Ciao!
GF: Thanks for the amusement. No I don't wish to see a photo! Ten years ago that ad would have made me angry and sick to my stomach. Now it just makes me laugh. It reads like some overt threat. Every moment with her would be walking on eggshells.
My favorite line is "I'm an amazing woman, it's up to you to figure that out. " I C. Translation: "Beyond the anger and hostility, chip on my shoulder, mounds of fat, entitlement attitude, there's this tiny sliver of attractive humanity left deep down and it's YOUR job to bring it out. If you can't do that and all I reveal is my 99% horrid side, it's YOUR fault! "
Thanks again GF. Now I'll return to attending to the Japanese hottie whom I've been banging twice daily for the past couple of years. Ciao!I actually tried to attach her photo, but it did not go through for some reason. Probably the ISG web server could not take it But nobody missed anything anyway.
Another her line "I don't know how to hold sh*t in". Does it translate to that she is full of all kinds of shit(also looks like shit), and it is already coming out of her, and you should be happy to take it?
I was also surprised that she was from California. For some reason I had an impression that such stuck up biyotches are usually located in North East USA. I thought South including California are better. I was in Texas last year, the women there seemed to be nicer than in North East. I guess it was not a very accurate observation.
AColonizer
05-30-10, 13:40
I came here to exhort: why do Americans go to Moon and can't they stop one oil leak? Maybe do Americans want to win wars, too? Some years ago, there was Bush, but now the story doesn't change with the new president! Is it possible a whole country is living in a virtual reality? Moreover, here in Europe, we say the real crisis is starting now...
Meanwhile I read the below post, and I can't believe Americans are so childish: that problem is the same in all Western world! Moreover you, Americans, are lucky because your religion is protestant, sex is not a sin, your students live in promiscuous residences, there are all kinds of women, there are places such as Los Angeles, Las Vegas, New York, etc., and you are still complaining about your women? Maybe this is a reason about why you can't cap a hole?!
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/292307
63% would rather do something else other than have sex with their husbands.
A more horrifying number is 1 in every 10 women have had sex outside the marriage.
This type of stuff mounts up and there's always a fucking excuse, weather it be workload, housework or children, there's always an excuse!
I don't think there are that many knuckle draggers out there that won't help with the children or the housework. But the workload? This is because they want an upper middle class or higher standard of living. Seems to me they rather work more than work less and fuck.
If CL is the sinkhole of personal ads, then Match.com must be the new trash heap.
I notice the ISG Manginas haven't been around lately, maybe that's a good thing.
Bango Cheito
05-30-10, 21:22
I came here to exhort: why do Americans go to Moon and can't they stop one oil leak? Maybe do Americans want to win wars, too? Some years ago, there was Bush, but now the story doesn't change with the new president! Is it possible a whole country is living in a virtual reality? Moreover, here in Europe, we say the real crisis is starting now...
Meanwhile I read the below post, and I can't believe Americans are so childish: that problem is the same in all Western world! Moreover you, Americans, are lucky because your religion is protestant, sex is not a sin, your students live in promiscuous residences, there are all kinds of women, there are places such as Los Angeles, Las Vegas, New York, etc., and you are still complaining about your women? Maybe this is a reason about why you can't cap a hole?!
Catholic countries DEFINITELY DEFINITELY have more sex per capita than Protestant countries.... not even close!
Except maybe the Vatican, people are having more sex than in this prison cell called the USA. All you have to do is have a passport, and watch what happens when you travel beyond our borders. Even thought the arts in the USA express raw sexuality in all its wonder everywhere you look, why do people feel so miserable? However, go anywhere else, especially those "third world" countries people here frown upon, and sex is plentiful. We fantasize about it, but overseas they just do it :D
Catholic countries DEFINITELY DEFINITELY have more sex per capita than Protestant countries.... not even close!
acolonizer: what is the depth & breadth of your experience of the us? a single two-week visit? watching tv, movies, porn, and the news? the sex-loving society you imagine is in reality the level of sophistication, fear, maturity, ability to deliver the goods, and **** leering of that of an 11-year-old boy.
the only places that are comparable sex prisons are canada (with the notable exception of french-speaking catholic quebec...go figure, the ultimate case study that proves our point!), uk and maybe australia. what do they have in common? puritanism, protestantism, and virulent brands of feminism.
the relatively sex-drenched places are not limited to the so-called "third-world". one could go to an advanced country such as japan, for example, and get all the high quality unfettered sex one could possibly hope for...and free. and if you have the money and interest, there's a dizzying array and variety of p4p where you won't be arrested and have your life ruined. why? no fucked up religion and feminism.
politicians, entertainers, and sports figures are routinely ruined and humiliated in public for having mistresses or sex workers. would that happen in france or italy, catholic countries? of course not.
and don't put down the us for the blowout and subsequent failures. we do plenty that is fucked up, but that's for the politics board. it's called british petroleum.
acolonizer: what is the depth & breadth of your experience of the us? a single two-week visit? watching tv, movies, porn, and the news? .
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the only places that are comparable sex prisons are canada (with the notable exception of french-speaking catholic quebec...go figure, the ultimate case study that proves our point!), uk and maybe australia. what do they have in common? puritanism, protestantism, and virulent brands of feminism.i have noticed many times that people in other countries assume that usa is a sex heaven while in reality it is rather opposite. probably it is due to hollywood propaganda, mtv, porn etc.
when i was in central asia, one local guy asked me if it is true that in usa you can come to any girl and have sex right away. he was thinking that in their country they have problems compared to usa. but actually women there and sex are a thousand times easier and better than in usa. those people do not realize how lucky there are in some aspects of life. also for some people there is a norm to have several wives(not officially), as long as you can support them.
to make things even worse in usa, paying for sex is illegal, so that in case somebody is not good looking, does not have much money, etc. most likely he will have a zero chance to get a good looking girl and good sex.
it really puzzles me when people call this country "free", while satisfying one of the most basic human needs is prohibited by law and people are getting punished for it. of course all those bullshit establishments. strip clubs, ripoff escorts, police confirep001ing offender's cars take advantage over the situation.
Calling Canada a sex prison does not do justice to the word. I am down here in Medellin enjoying my beautiful colombiana who I have known for over 2 yrs, and getting plenty on the side. Unfortunately, reality will soon bite me in the rear end and I will have to go back, back to a place where I have not had a date in over 7 years, let alone any sex, where the women believe in girl power and we can do it on our own....basic feminist manhaters, taught from day one by their mothers that if they can find some poor sucker then the idea is to bleed him dry, and when he is in bankruptcy court, move on to the next.
At least AWs do talk to me when I am in the USA, in Canada, normally a dirty look and go to hell is the best any guy can expect, unless of course, he is driving a Maserati
Bango Cheito
06-01-10, 17:30
Calling Canada a sex prison does not do justice to the word. I am down here in Medellin enjoying my beautiful colombiana who I have known for over 2 yrs, and getting plenty on the side. Unfortunately, reality will soon bite me in the rear end and I will have to go back, back to a place where I have not had a date in over 7 years, let alone any sex, where the women believe in girl power and we can do it on our own....basic feminist manhaters, taught from day one by their mothers that if they can find some poor sucker then the idea is to bleed him dry, and when he is in bankruptcy court, move on to the next.
At least AWs do talk to me when I am in the USA, in Canada, normally a dirty look and go to hell is the best any guy can expect, unless of course, he is driving a Maserati
It's all true, English speaking Canada has to be the hardest place in the world for a guy to get laid. It wasn't that bad 20 years ago when I was still a kid, but it's ATROCIOUS now...
DJ FourMoney
06-01-10, 18:43
I came here to exhort: why do Americans go to Moon and can't they stop one oil leak? Maybe do Americans want to win wars, too? Some years ago, there was Bush, but now the story doesn't change with the new president! Is it possible a whole country is living in a virtual reality? Moreover, here in Europe, we say the real crisis is starting now...
Meanwhile I read the below post, and I can't believe Americans are so childish: that problem is the same in all Western world! Moreover you, Americans, are lucky because your religion is protestant, sex is not a sin, your students live in promiscuous residences, there are all kinds of women, there are places such as Los Angeles, Las Vegas, New York, etc., and you are still complaining about your women? Maybe this is a reason about why you can't cap a hole?!
BP caused the oil leak/spill however MMS is responsible for allowing it to happen and the explosion in Texas in 2005. - http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1134230020080911
BP is not named in that article but it wouldn't be too much of a leap to include them either.
What that has to do with our overt religious tone in our culture I'm not quite sure.
Are there thousands of women entering adult entertainment every year - Yes
Is there a serious problem with teen pregnancy - Yes
Does that equal loads of free sex available to the average joe - NO!
Adult Friend Finder is full of scams artist if not worst. Can you go fishing in those waters and find something? Yes but, does a blind squirrel find a nut on occasion? Yes...
Are there ways to get free sex in America for little to no money - Yes
But then you have to ask yourself -
1) Are you willing to fuck seriously obese women?
2) Are you willing to fuck destitute, malnourished women?
3) Are you willing to fuck the Single Mother with 2-3-4 screaming brats not all from the same man?
If you answer yes to any of these, then with a bit of effort, a few hours on the internet (trolling would be closer to the point) or local social establishments (bars, discos, church?) you might find suitable targets.
Having said all that, you might find "something" in your age bracket. Being that my age bracket would be 35-45, I don't find much "appealing" in that bracket, as most of the age defying and "well preserved" women are unattainable to me mostly for social-economical reasons.
Not because I'm fat (I'm not), not because I'm ugly (cause I ain't) and not because I have no social skills (cause I do).
Weather your established or not, it largely doesn't matter. For established men in America, its still mostly an uphill battle and while the women aren't fat or ugly; many of them still are single mothers. If not that, then most have some sort of mental problem.
I know I'm being broad with this assessment, but its largely accurate, have a look on the city data's message boards or plenty of fish msg boards...
Are there ways to get free sex in America for little to no money - Yes
But then you have to ask yourself -
1) Are you willing to fuck seriously obese women?
Wrong, even the fat/obese AW are way overpriced. Here's one prime example.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/frisky-cougar-on-the-prowl-44ddd-natural-redhead-incalls-knsw-only-cmere-badboyz-48/5914674
Unfortunately, it's only in America where you have obese hippos like this demanding premium prices. I've got to blame our American brothers for encouraging this kind of BS.
Wrong, even the fat/obese AW are way overpriced. Here's one prime example.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/frisky-cougar-on-the-prowl-44ddd-natural-redhead-incalls-knsw-only-cmere-badboyz-48/5914674
That's when you know it's time to throw in the towel. I wouldn't even [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on that rug. I'd use her as a dirty ass washer instead of toilet paper.
There are guys dying to hit ANYTHING.
Wrong, even the fat/obese AW are way overpriced. Here's one prime example.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/frisky-cougar-on-the-prowl-44ddd-natural-redhead-incalls-knsw-only-cmere-badboyz-48/5914674What the hell is this creature? From which zoo was it expelled?
I liked this line:
"ONLY Upscale Gentleman~Top Notch Hygiene Mandatory"
Do you think it is overpriced? I think she is priceless.
It is really amazing how such mutated animals get this idea to post their ads and ask for money. And more amazing that obviously some incredibly brave people pay for this. Must be true patriots.
Wrong, even the fat/obese AW are way overpriced. Here's one prime example.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/frisky-cougar-on-the-prowl-44ddd-natural-redhead-incalls-knsw-only-cmere-badboyz-48/5914674
That sure ain't no cougar. Looks more like a water-buffalo.
Capt Ajax, for posting that you should have to change your name to Capt Ahab. "Thar she blows!" Except I wouldn't classify her as a "right whale," but definitely as the WRONG whale for my harpoon!
DJ FourMoney
06-03-10, 02:28
Wrong, even the fat/obese AW are way overpriced. Here's one prime example.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/frisky-cougar-on-the-prowl-44ddd-natural-redhead-incalls-knsw-only-cmere-badboyz-48/5914674
Unfortunately, it's only in America where you have obese hippos like this demanding premium prices. I've got to blame our American brothers for encouraging this kind of BS.
But I said FREE....
Around America there are nightclubs setup to cater to these women, because they do not want competition from skinny women - http://www.clubbounce.net/
That place is located in the LA area, I haven't been to this one, but I have been to another one. Like I said its like being homeless and going dumpster diving, you know you have to eat something... In this case I have made it a mantra - JUST SAY NO!
Is posting pictures if your a BBW from the neck up "false advertisement"?
You be the judge - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Kv1QQdqVY
DJ FourMoney
06-03-10, 02:32
That sure ain't no cougar. Looks more like a water-buffalo.
Capt Ajax, for posting that you should have to change your name to Capt Ahab. "Thar she blows!" Except I wouldn't classify her as a "right whale," but definitely as the WRONG whale for my harpoon!
Besides Cougars want younger men, younger men foolish enough to let them be caught like prey. That's why I have a series of women over 45 contacting me these days, they feel empowered, FUCK THAT.
dude, the older the grape the sweeter the wine. i am in paraguay now, fucking an endless stream of 18-25 y/o women. it is a tough job but someone has to do it. but, they lack experience. there is no substitute for experience. so today instead of taking the best looking woman in the line up i took an older one, maybe 35 or so. it was a wise decision.
if jamie moyer can pitch a shut out at 47 then you can fuck a 45 year old. we won't tell anyone. you need some pretty bad, i think, so try to be flexible. i fucked my 57 y/o aw friend a couple of times in april and it was pretty good.
dude, the older the grape the sweeter the wine. i am in paraguay now, fucking an endless stream of 18-25 y/o women. it is a tough job but someone has to do it. but, they lack experience. there is no substitute for experience. so today instead of taking the best looking woman in the line up i took an older one, maybe 35 or so. it was a wise decision.
if jamie moyer can pitch a shut out at 47 then you can fuck a 45 year old. we won't tell anyone. you need some pretty bad, i think, so try to be flexible. i fucked my 57 y/o aw friend a couple of times in april and it was pretty good.i agree. they don't have to look like that though. i appreciate them here in america. no hassel, drama, or potential children. the sex is great and they are open to anything. additionally they don't bother you, they are happy to be crushed once or twice a month with only a texts notice at the time you want it and never else. they are a needed commodity in in a mans playbook. i love to find a new one reguraly and mix them in with the young ones.
Like I said its like being homeless and going dumpster diving, you know you have to eat something... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Kv1QQdqVY
Very funny line. I know the feeling. Years ago I went to bbw fetish clubs to get my freak on. The problem was a number of other guys had the same idea....compete for bbw meat...no way. Needless to say it bruised my ego even more.
That scene is really gross.
yes, i agree, the problem with young 18-25y/o women is they lack experience. it's for this reason i stick to the 30+year olds, most know how to screw.
dude, the older the grape the sweeter the wine. i am in paraguay now, fucking an endless stream of 18-25 y/o women. it is a tough job but someone has to do it. but, they lack experience. there is no substitute for experience. so today instead of taking the best looking woman in the line up i took an older one, maybe 35 or so. it was a wise decision.
if jamie moyer can pitch a shut out at 47 then you can fuck a 45 year old. we won't tell anyone. you need some pretty bad, i think, so try to be flexible. i fucked my 57 y/o aw friend a couple of times in april and it was pretty good.
dude, the older the grape the sweeter the wine. i am in paraguay now, fucking an endless stream of 18-25 y/o women. it is a tough job but someone has to do it. but, they lack experience. there is no substitute for experience. so today instead of taking the best looking woman in the line up i took an older one, maybe 35 or so. it was a wise decision.
there is a vast difference between a "trockenbeerenauslese" rhine wine and a pile of rotten grapes marinating in their own juice. seems to me the average "older" aw, at least in my area, is more likely to resemble the latter. especially the "bbw" that even captain ahab may be reluctant to harpoon.
i have been indoctrinated to believe that "american princesses" resent the fact that i'm interested in their bodies. i take it for granted that they are not interested in mine. sour grapes.
offshore is another matter, especially if i'm headed for a known p4p zone. i still like the lean, leggy type; but i won't insist on singing "hey nineteen" if a lean, leggy milf shows up. in fact, i hope that they do!
DJ FourMoney
06-03-10, 21:50
dude, the older the grape the sweeter the wine. i am in paraguay now, fucking an endless stream of 18-25 y/o women. it is a tough job but someone has to do it. but, they lack experience. there is no substitute for experience. so today instead of taking the best looking woman in the line up i took an older one, maybe 35 or so. it was a wise decision.
if jamie moyer can pitch a shut out at 47 then you can fuck a 45 year old. we won't tell anyone. you need some pretty bad, i think, so try to be flexible. i fucked my 57 y/o aw friend a couple of times in april and it was pretty good.
now look, i like older women to a point. yes there is less drama usually, kids are teenagers or out of the house, usually further along on their career path, etc, etc.
i'm just going with what been hitting on me and its that not good -
1) a woman with financial trouble, recently divorced, still sporting 80's clothes and hair style.
2) a very hot 42 year old german woman, wrong place, wrong time, i'm broke at the moment.
3) some 41 year old norwegian blond looking a bit weathered (seems scandinavians age a bit prematurely)
DJ FourMoney
06-03-10, 21:52
Yes, I agree, the problem with young 18-25y/o women is they lack experience. It's for this reason I stick to the 30+year olds, most know how to fuck.
Are we talking strictly AW here or Western Women in general?
Are we talking strictly AW here or Western Women in general?
Mainly AW......
Now look, I like older women to a point. Yes there is less drama usually, kids are teenagers or out of the house, usually further along on their career path, etc, etc.
I'm just going with what been hitting on me and its that not good -
1) A woman with financial trouble, recently divorced, still sporting 80's clothes and hair style.
2) A very hot 42 year old German woman, wrong place, wrong time, I'm broke at the moment.
3) Some 41 year old Norwegian Blond looking a bit weathered (seems Scandinavians age a bit prematurely)I understand DJ. I too screen them from the beggining the first time we speak. 1,2 and 3 from your list is fine as long as-
1. She doesnt ask for anything.
2. Has a decent body and face with good hygeine.
3. I'm never going out anywhere with her so her hairstyle or fashion sense doesnt matter.
4. Doesnt play any games when i asked to come over after 11pm (done by phone that night) - just says cool or ok. (more words means more future expectations from you)
5. And Must have her own place.
Its honestly an ongoing screen if anything changes i cut them loose( they always get back their common sense and ask you to come over and most importantly i never see them more than 2-3 times a month if at all some months, and only at their place to handle adult business until theyve built up some trust over time to come thru my place only when invited late at night or early morns. And if they call or text too much they get the axe. That means their trying to expand on to a relationship.
I've found thru experimentation that women 10 + years older than myself are the best ones for this group.
I tell them im 5 years younger than I am and theyre afraid of going out with someone so young. Women closer to my age or younger still think they have a shot at getting the i do and play more games upfront.
Oh Ya Papi
06-04-10, 04:16
that citi bank chick is nothin if you've ever been to latin america. shit. i do not want to fuck heffers and baggage here in e.e.u.u.. travel is where its at!!!
check this bullshit!
an article, once again, about balless american men , pussy ass. latinas let a amna be a man!!!!!! check it!
http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articlematch.aspx?cp-documentid=24077871&Gt1=32023
stay horny my friends and say no to fat AW!!!!!
that citi bank chick is nothin if you've ever been to latin america. shit. i do not want to fuck heffers and baggage here in e.e.u.u.. travel is where its at!!!
check this bullshit!
an article, once again, about balless american men , pussy ass. latinas let a amna be a man!!!!!! check it!
http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articlematch.aspx?cp-documentid=24077871&Gt1=32023
stay horny my friends and say no to fat AW!!!!!
Just....wow at that list...
that list. yeah. about says it all. notice not one word about wanting a good lover. shows how important sex is to them. but a lot about catering to her "needs". "he should understand the importance of jewelry in a woman's life." and we must be soooo sensitive and talk about our feelings, go shopping with her, be one of her girlfriends, be her psychotherapist, yet must still be manly enough to fix her car and provide for her materially.
AColonizer
06-04-10, 21:48
read the list of facts in my previous post, not only a travel, but a different social system where males and females are used to live together since adolescence. moreover, you, you don't know the social system in western countries such as italy.
men in western countries have got the same problem. the solution is to change the social system. but how can we change the system if who decides in favor of women are men??? at last, if women command in western countries is why men let women to command. therefore, stop complaining and convince your friends and neighbors to change their words and behaviours with women.
please, don't confuse free sex with pay sex. for example, in italy, there is pay sex because men' normal sexual life is about zero. anyway, there were sex scandals in italy too, and not about female prostitutes but about "trans" prostitutes!
yes, bp is british but it has drilled in your sea! and be sure, that is a business for a lot of americans too. and what does your president do to keep up the usa's moral? he sings with paul mac cartney . . .
acolonizer: what is the depth & breadth of your experience of the us? a single two-week visit? watching tv, movies, porn, and the news? the sex-loving society you imagine is in reality the level of sophistication, fear, maturity, ability to deliver the goods, and **** leering of that of an 11-year-old boy.
the only places that are comparable sex prisons are canada (with the notable exception of french-speaking catholic quebec...go figure, the ultimate case study that proves our point!), uk and maybe australia. what do they have in common? puritanism, protestantism, and virulent brands of feminism.
the relatively sex-drenched places are not limited to the so-called "third-world". one could go to an advanced country such as japan, for example, and get all the high quality unfettered sex one could possibly hope for...and free. and if you have the money and interest, there's a dizzying array and variety of p4p where you won't be arrested and have your life ruined. why? no fucked up religion and feminism.
politicians, entertainers, and sports figures are routinely ruined and humiliated in public for having mistresses or sex workers. would that happen in france or italy, catholic countries? of course not.
and don't put down the us for the blowout and subsequent failures. we do plenty that is fucked up, but that's for the politics board. it's called british petroleum.
Awhile back, I hooked up with a Chinese girl of Canadian descent.
Little chunky, not bad, double Ds, enjoys sex, has offered to lick my taint. She's not much for returning calls or staying in daily communication and she basically just has me over for sex. She's bisexual.
Little on the materialistic side, but in this case, it just seems to further establish her independence.
By the way, I've been offered a position in Miami. Would any of y'all recommend living there as a single guy?
I'm in fairly good shape, not bad looking, not really good looking, basically a soon-to-be 40 hairy, Spanish bilingual redneck. Think it could work for me as a city?
By the way, I've been offered a position in Miami. Would any of y'all recommend living there as a single guy?
I'm in fairly good shape, not bad looking, not really good looking, basically a soon-to-be 40 hairy, Spanish bilingual redneck. Think it could work for me as a city?I think this can be a good idea. Miami is not as fucked up as many other American cities, there are many foreigners, good weather, etc. Also getting SW is not that difficult as in other places. And the proximity to islands and South America makes it really good place. You can fly for $200-$300 virtually anywhere for a weekend for example. I actually consider Florida as a place to live in the future.
absolutely no sex for you and she can walk out on you at anytime. man, where do i sign up to get together with such a fine catch :d? she needs to find the nearest whaling boat so they can harpoon her ass!!! she has to be kidding.
that list. yeah. about says it all. notice not one word about wanting a good lover. shows how important sex is to them. but a lot about catering to her "needs". "he should understand the importance of jewelry in a woman's life." and we must be soooo sensitive and talk about our feelings, go shopping with her, be one of her girlfriends, be her psychotherapist, yet must still be manly enough to fix her car and provide for her materially.
Voyager: The list I referred to was here http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationsh...77871&Gt1=32023 which is a compilation of a survey of dozens of women of all ages. Not the fat old sex worker.
Here are some questions that were asked of married American Men . Their replies follow and show for the most part that marriages to AW are a complete sham. A pattern emerges in which AW give you all the sex you want before marriage, when you've fallen hook line and sinker, then all the sex goes away after marriage and you're fucked.
1.Does the quantity/quality of sex really drop off after marriage or after having kids?
2.Are you married guys still able to DATY with your wives or does the wife completely lose interest in anything sexual after marriage and having kids.
3. Do any of you have wives whose hornyness has increased after marriage and kids?
Yes it really does drop off after both marriage and again even more after kids. Its actually pretty crazy how it happens exactly like everyone says it will. In my case, we dated for like 7 years and prior to marriage still had a sex life like we were still both 18 year olds. Within a year of being married she took that all away. No more BJ's, sex maybe once a month if I was lucky, and nothing at all kinky. After our first kid, she no longer allows DATY or anything except mish on the super rare occasion that she allows sex anymore.
PTB
What I want to know is WHY!!!! Why for 7 years she blew you and then took it off the table? I mean if she didn't really like it, 7 years is a long time to deal...unless it was to keep you until marriage. Still damn unfair if you ask me. The no DATY after childbirth could be that she feels her private parts are no longer attractive after being stretched...although with exercise it should snap back (no experience on that one as I have no children and don't plan on having any)...just a wild guess based on the reading I have done.
LB
3 months after we got married was my last BJ (on my birthday), so yes it was just one of the many things she did to keep me around until marriage :-( Amazing though after one gets a real BJ, well I wasn't missing much/anything from the half assed one at home.
re no DATY, that's one of the many bogus reasons she gives. I say bogus, because she thought they were unattractive long before childbirth and still love to receive plenty of DATY back then.
LB
It dropped off for me. Before having kids, and even more so after having kids. No DATY after she gave birth, she says she's too self conscious. There's very little interest in most sexual activity.
MP
Within my marriage my wife was sure to create sexual satisfaction for me. After the first child came along the sex became less frequent and mechanical. Mechanical satisfies the immediate necessity but nothing to quell the boredom of 'routine' sex. She was very adamant about receiving as much daty as possible but almost refused bbbj for faith-based reasons. Try and explain that one. I would pay good money for that answer. LOL
OSP
When we were young the sex was good. as we grew older the sex diminished to non existence. We do not have kids. While it is a little harder for my self physically (mentally I am as horny as ever) with all the ailments of age and poisons our culture bring to our bodies, Women's sexual health is much more complicated. Kids and marriage has nothing to do with it. Most women are afraid to talk about it with their doctors and most doctors are not knowledgeable enough to treat it. But I have been told that 40% of women suffer from diminished sexual drive. A woman's body is one complex hormonal soup. Too much or too little of anything can put it out of balance! All I can suggest is to have good enough communication to seek help when the time comes.
ST
Our sex life was once to twice a week before marriage and has gone through ups and downs based on various issues. Still receive great BJ's and I know what I like, so getting them from a provider is exciting and fun to compare. DATY on occasion. We now have sex about once a week on average, which is less than before we were married, but about at the same frequency even after 2 kids and 10 years. Another addition has been to add toys to the sex life. SO was never vocal or demonstrative about what she enjoyed, but since adding a few toys her pleasure has gone way up, and therefore we're both happier. We work on the communication to try and keep things going well for both of us. This hobby has allowed me to meet some needs that have not been met at home, and that keeps the stress waaaayyyy down for everyone, and the happiness way up for me and mr happy.
AM
For my wife and me, marriage was more of an arbitrary point in our relationship where we decided to slap a more binding legal label on things (God, that sounds so unromantic :). Because we fucked like bunnies early on in our relationship, sex frequency had to fall off. Buying a house which required more of a commute reduced the frequency, but that was simply tiredness often entering the equation. Having a child did reduce sex, dramatically. Unlike it seems with a lot of respondents here, it wasn't some sort of unilateral decision on her part. We both are just too damned tired a lot of the time - we both work full time, have a fairly demanding child, etc. etc. etc. Even when we try to make plans, things can derail them. I reentered the "hobby" for a few reasons - the old "not being wired for monogamy" excuse, the seven year itch, not always feeling appreciated by my wife, what have you. One reason I did not get back into it was because my wife did not want to have sex with me as much as I wanted to have sex with her.If she found out I were dabbling again, it would probably be a quick divorce.
BF
38 Years Married...
...I can say that yes, the sex (both quality and quantity) drops off. I still love my wife. I don't want to be married to anyone else. We're very happy together BUT...I want more intimacy than she does. She knows nothing about my hobbying activities and she never will. I've been hobbying for about 12 years and have met some splendid, beautiful women but when it comes to home and hearth, she's the one. We have kids and grandkids. Why would I want to jeopardize that? Answer: I don't. That's why I'm very careful.
GT
Married 33 years
and sex definitely dropped off after kids arrived.
Part of the reason for that was that grad school also entered the equation along with many more hours of work. We only have a finite amount of energy! Sex increased after the kids moved out until menopause hit. She has very little interest now and sex with an uninterested partner isn't the most fun. It's kind of strange. Sex with my wife is now focused almost entirely on my own satisfaction while the ladies I hobby with 'provide' much more give and take.
WW
Sex falls off after marriage and it falls off dramatically after kids. I don't care who the woman is during the dating stage of your relationship, sex will fall off substantially at some point. It may even become non-existant (or so seldom that it may as well be). Anyone who tells you differently...is selling something.
RS
Bango Cheito
06-07-10, 04:43
What a huge difference... here in Colombia unless it's a gold digger (actually NOT common in the local culture like people think).... women put HUGE importance on whether a man is a good lover or not....
I just got through a whole weekend of sexual olympics with a girl here, she wanted to see for herself that I would be as good a lover or better as her current bf BEFORE breaking it off with him.... and she told it to me straight.... no good sex.... NO DEAL.....
What a huge difference... here in Colombia unless it's a gold digger (actually NOT common in the local culture like people think).... women put HUGE importance on whether a man is a good lover or not....
I just got through a whole weekend of sexual olympics with a girl here, she wanted to see for herself that I would be as good a lover or better as her current bf BEFORE breaking it off with him.... and she told it to me straight.... no good sex.... NO DEAL.....
She sounds like my Japanese girlfriend, who demands and gives variety, quality and quantity. Now that's a quite reasonable demand I could live with! What a refreshing departure from AW's.
Bango Cheito
06-08-10, 05:45
Yup, instead of vampirizing me she lifts me up by insisting on things that evolve me and are good for me! Imagine the idea of a couple actually being a TEAM working towards common goals!!
Yup, instead of vampirizing me she lifts me up by insisting on things that evolve me and are good for me! Imagine the idea of a couple actually being a TEAM working towards common goals!!
That's un-Amurrican. :D
Of course, it isn't in "Amurrica" (the USA) so it's none of NOW's f***ing business. You're a lucky man, BC, though by all accounts you worked hard to be worth it.
I'm a great believer in luck and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it.
I'm always nervous the rest of the world will follow suit and become more and more like the USA.... sadly...
Too late, Jon. It's already been happening. And it's accelerating, as cable TV and internet expand worldwide. Feminism and Oprah have been exported commodities for years. NGO's are "educating" women worldwide that it is for their own good that they become like AW, the "gold standard" for women reaching their full potential.
Here's a pathetic example of your typical pussified AM:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/askamy/ct-live-0612-amy-20100612,0,4160861.column
This poor guy puts up with a wife who is a serial adulteress and who faces no consequences or accountability for her actions, while he pines away for her to one day return the passion he feels for her. Sad.
Too late, Jon. It's already been happening. And it's accelerating, as cable TV and internet expand worldwide. Feminism and Oprah have been exported commodities for years. NGO's are "educating" women worldwide that it is for their own good that they become like AW, the "gold standard" for women reaching their full potential.
Here's a pathetic example of your typical pussified AM:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/askamy/ct-live-0612-amy-20100612,0,4160861.column
This poor guy puts up with a wife who is a serial adulteress and who faces no consequences or accountability for her actions, while he pines away for her to one day return the passion he feels for her. Sad.
There, but for the grace of God, go I.
This poor guy should "Ask Jackson" instead of "Ask Amy". He really needs to call the Thai Airways hotline for immediate intervention. :D
ThatGuy865
06-15-10, 05:28
What a huge difference. Here in Colombia unless it's a gold digger (actually NOT common in the local culture like people think). Women put HUGE importance on whether a man is a good lover or not.
I just got through a whole weekend of sexual olympics with a girl here, she wanted to see for herself that I would be as good a lover or better as her current bf BEFORE breaking it off with him. And she told it to me straight. No good sex. NO DEAL.Man that old news in america. I've had plenty tell me that tired line. I guess some AM got it. And some have to fly around the world to get a little.
I suggest you boys look at the USA version of this guide. With just as many members who are satisfied with staying right in the good of USA oa A. Where the women do it cowboy style. Yeee haaa.
Where the women do it cowboy style. Yeee haaa.
That's exactly some of the mentality of some AW. At least with South American women, they appreciate and accept a man as a leader and not a competitor. SA women enjoy sex with a man and want it often. Many AW use sex to capture a man, control him or reward him. There is such a big social difference, it has to be experienced and ultimately appreciated.
I've heard many times AW dress for other women. I don't doubt that. SA women dress for men.
Bango Cheito
06-15-10, 17:02
Man that old news in america. I've had plenty tell me that tired line. I guess some AM got it. And some have to fly around the world to get a little.
I suggest you boys look at the USA version of this guide. With just as many members who are satisfied with staying right in the good of USA oa A. Where the women do it cowboy style. Yeee haaa.
Dude, RTFF... I LIVE in Bogota...
And I do look at the USA version from time to time.... it's shocking how things have gone downhill in the USA in the past 10 years... absolutely SHOCKING... as a matter of fact, check it out yourself, the evidence is ALL there!
I suggest you boys look at the USA version of this guide. Where the women do it cowboy style. Yeee haaa.With the guy haltered, saddled, and goaded with her spurs in his flanks?
At least with South American women, they appreciate and accept a man as a leader and not a competitor. SA women enjoy sex with a man and want it often. Many AW use sex to capture a man, control him or reward him. There is such a big social difference, it has to be experienced and ultimately appreciated.And that's why I spurn the AW. I don't want to play those games of capture and control, and she just is not that great a "reward" compared with the lovely latinas.
The AW has fought long and hard for equality, and good for her! But she wants the privileged status of her sex, too. All about "rights" and nothing about responsibilities, fair play, ethical behavior. The American bed is still a battlefield, and that's the problem.
While "flying around the world to get a little" is not the worst idea in the world, a better idea is to fly around the world and get a lot. But some people have little penises and little libido and little experience and little, tiny minds. So the concept of a lot of pussy, whenever, wherever, and however you want is just more than they can handle.
Not only do South American women want much more sex than American women, they want it a lot rougher and a lot kinkier. And, a lot higher percentage of them orgasm during vaginal intercourse. I think that is because they haven't read all this bullshit about how "many women are unable to orgasm during vaginal intercourse." It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
So in conclusion after living a year in Mexico, a year in Europe, and six years in South America, I can state that the advantages of AWs as lovers are the following:
ThatGuy865
06-15-10, 19:14
It appears as in all groups there is about a 10 to 15 percent that have it easy to great time (for this forum, its getting plenty of good sex from AW).
Then there are the majority lets say 70 to 80 percent who have what is considered an semi ok to rather good accomplishment (again sex with AW) and
Then there are the 10 to 15 percent that have an awfully hard time to no luck (again sex with AW)
What we have here is a population of the last group who need to vent because they don't fit into the other 2 groups. As you can see the same group of guys (less than 15) from the thousands who frequent this forum complain about AW. Like I said. That lower 10%.
TG. Telling it like it is. Rough to hear. But it is what it is. Ya digg.
Man that old news in america. I've had plenty tell me that tired line. I guess some AM got it. And some have to fly around the world to get a little.
I suggest you boys look at the USA version of this guide. With just as many members who are satisfied with staying right in the good of USA oa A. Where the women do it cowboy style. Yeee haaa.
Hah, the usa version of this guide is awful. I go back and check the cities I was living in and think "wow, how the hell did I ever live in the states!"
I'm not talking wild west cities either, major metropolises which (are supposed) to have variety.
I remember living there however many years ago and reading the usaguide. Then somehow finding the internationalguide and thinking "I can't wait to get the hell out of here"...
Jackson doesn't call it a "sex prison" for nothing....
With just as many members who are satisfied with staying right in the good of USA oa A. Where the women do it cowboy style. Yeee haaa.
Satisfied or ignorant (not by their own fault). Ignorance is bliss.... half the mongers on that board have probably never traveled outside the country...
So in conclusion after living a year in Mexico, a year in Europe, and six years in South America, I can state that the advantages of AWs as lovers are the following:
ahahaha....great!
Not only do South American women want much more sex than American women, they want it a lot rougher and a lot kinkier.
I agree, South American women want more sex than AW and want it rougher and kinkier, but have noticed this is less so with Central American women, who are more reserved when it comes to sex.
So in conclusion after living a year in Mexico, a year in Europe, and six years in South America, I can state that the advantages of AWs as lovers are the following:
I agree with you a completely on this.
And I do look at the USA version from time to time.... it's shocking how things have gone downhill in the USA in the past 10 years... absolutely SHOCKING... as a matter of fact, check it out yourself, the evidence is ALL there!I have not looked there for while and I do not feel like doing that. From what I remember there are usually desperate guys hoping to get lucky to find an ugly/fat/toothless girl on drugs, or just very expensive AW without guarantee they are gonna get laid, while hoping not to get caught by the police like they are criminals.
Bango Cheito
06-16-10, 03:37
Wrong again. I'm back up in NYC visiting now.... I get looks from the ladies all the time... when I DID live here I had no lack of interest and had no problem getting laid here. BUT.... now that I live in Colombia I'm just spoiled.... I can't even look twice at the poorly taken care of skanks here... girls that woulda passed the threshold 2 years ago are now WAY on the other side of it....
I actually have to work HARDER to get laid in Bogota but it is SOOOOOOOOO much more worth it.... I look better than ever now after 2 years of taking care of myself and not eating garbage shit American food, and I get more interest than ever here but NAHHHHHHHHHH you can keep the fat ugly *****s who have no idea how to dress speak or carry themselves.... I'll just wait another two weeks to fuck a girl who's waiting for me in Colombia, one so special and beautiful I can't even think of anybody else right now... one that has NO equal among 300 million ignorant loudmouthed out of shape AW!
It appears as in all groups there is about a 10 to 15 percent that have it easy to great time (for this forum, its getting plenty of good sex from AW).
Then there are the majority lets say 70 to 80 percent who have what is considered an semi ok to rather good accomplishment (again sex with AW) and
Then there are the 10 to 15 percent that have an awfully hard time to no luck (again sex with AW)
What we have here is a population of the last group who need to vent because they don't fit into the other 2 groups. As you can see the same group of guys (less than 15) from the thousands who frequent this forum complain about AW. Like I said. That lower 10%.
TG. Telling it like it is. Rough to hear. But it is what it is. Ya digg.
ThatGuy865
06-16-10, 08:57
Wrong again. I'm back up in NYC visiting now. I get looks from the ladies all the time. When I DID live here I had no lack of interest and had no problem getting laid here. BUT. Now that I live in Colombia I'm just spoiled. I can't even look twice at the poorly taken care of skanks here. Girls that woulda passed the threshold 2 years ago are now WAY on the other side of it.
I actually have to work HARDER to get laid in Bogota but it is so much more worth it. I look better than ever now after 2 years of taking care of myself and not eating garbage shit American food, and I get more interest than ever here but no you can keep the fat ugly *****s who have no idea how to dress speak or carry themselves. I'll just wait another two weeks to fuck a girl who's waiting for me in Colombia, one so special and beautiful I can't even think of anybody else right now. One that has NO equal among 300 million ignorant loudmouthed out of shape AW!Yeah right. There are no beautiful women in NYC. Of course not. Its only a city where women from ALL over the world migrate. With hopes of becoming a fashion model, TV star, broadway star, dancers. But of course only the ugly fat out of shape women from around the world aspire to become those. Yeah right. I guess when they if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. They meant only "you fat ugly babes".
Its one thing to say. I'm satisfied with what I have. And thats cool, hey there's nothing wrong with that. But to overstate the situation to justify your feelings is just wrong and a lie.
Or could it be you are only attracting the fat out of shape women. Then you'd be right.
Australiasucks
06-16-10, 20:34
Honestly lets face reality, women are being "Americanized" in many parts of the globe, I am trekking through central Europe and finding the experience to be a major disappointment, maybe next time I will have to stick to the CIS or Russia. Women I have seen in Germany are as fat and skanky as those in the US, UK, or in Australia. I think the best punting places left on Earth are now in Asia and Latin America. Europe is going downhill.
Bango Cheito
06-16-10, 20:37
Yeah right. There are no beautiful women in NYC. Of course not. Its only a city where women from ALL over the world migrate. With hopes of becoming a fashion model, TV star, broadway star, dancers. But of course only the ugly fat out of shape women from around the world aspire to become those. Yeah right. I guess when they if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. They meant only "you fat ugly babes".
Its one thing to say. I'm satisfied with what I have. And thats cool, hey there's nothing wrong with that. But to overstate the situation to justify your feelings is just wrong and a lie.
Or could it be you are only attracting the fat out of shape women. Then you'd be right.
That famous Frank Sinatra quote musta been true 50 years ago, but it's sure as fuck obsolete now... the bar is very low here...
Besides which, not everybody gets let in, and interest in moving here is waning, ESPECIALLY for anything having anything to do with the arts and fashion....
The US is just a fucking has been nation, over the next several years you will see the currency plummet and its transition to a full fledged third world banana republic will be complete...
"What I have" bro you have NO FUCKING IDEA... especially if you think the TRASH here in the US looks good :P
Yeah right. There are no beautiful women in NYC. Of course not. Its only a city where women from ALL over the world migrate. With hopes of becoming a fashion model, TV star, broadway star, dancers. But of course only the ugly fat out of shape women from around the world aspire to become those. Yeah right. I guess when they if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. They meant only "you fat ugly babes".
Its one thing to say. I'm satisfied with what I have. And thats cool, hey there's nothing wrong with that. But to overstate the situation to justify your feelings is just wrong and a lie.
Or could it be you are only attracting the fat out of shape women. Then you'd be right.
Since you love AW so much, here's one you can keep for yourself. Approx 60% of AW in NYC look like this.
http://chattanooga.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bbw-sweetheart-girlfriend-available-44/2722804
Yeah right. There are no beautiful women in NYC. Of course not. Its only a city where women from ALL over the world migrate. With hopes of becoming a fashion model, TV star, broadway star, dancers. But of course only the ugly fat out of shape women from around the world aspire to become those. Yeah right. I guess when they if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. They meant only "you fat ugly babes".
Its one thing to say. I'm satisfied with what I have. And thats cool, hey there's nothing wrong with that. But to overstate the situation to justify your feelings is just wrong and a lie.
Or could it be you are only attracting the fat out of shape women. Then you'd be right.
Quality pussy cost big bucks in NYC just like anything else. You are either in the A List crowd or a fashionista hipster with TONS of facebook friends or you get the scrap meat no one wants.
Scrap meat in NYC is very different than scrap meat in latin countries. I've seen some fine looking ghetto girls in shanty towns look more attractive than an overfed over pampered piece of lump called AW.
*NYC is crawling with big spenders and GQ model types. What sets you apart from the rest is the amount of money and social influence ( can you get me into that party etc.).
I laugh when people are amazed that NEW YORK CITY isn't pussy heaven for me....all those exotic women etc. They have no idea what kind of ballbusters and brutes these women can be...not complaining just stating the facts.
DJ FourMoney
06-17-10, 01:56
Since you love AW so much, here's one you can keep for yourself. Approx 60% of AW in NYC look like this.
http://chattanooga.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/bbw-sweetheart-girlfriend-available-44/2722804
It took almost everything in me to not flag that as inappropriate. Then I thought, if somebody wants to pay $300-$500 for that sow, then let them.
Life around here was reasonable until TG showed up again. Don't you know your defense of the Status Que is not welcomed around here?
I have a bit of trouble with women but its mostly self-inflicted (living at home) but whatever if that eliminates me from say 60% of the available women so be it.
Actually it doesn't, if I wanted to date a bunch of 40somethings I could, its quite easy, they are passed there "Sell By This Date" usually. I agree with a recent post on Ok Cupid's Blog Post - http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2010/02/16/the-case-for-an-older-woman/ about making the case for older women.
I want children, ummm most of these women don't (want) or have children from a previous relationship. Call that flawed if you want, but that's what I want, I'm fairly rigid on that and since I can safely date 10 years younger than myself (39) this is only a minor problem. If I wanted to "conform" to social norms, then I might have a few more dates, but AW have fallen so far down the toilet, I don't think the Tidy Bowl Man can save them.
Just one of a myriad of social, economic, political and cultural problems in Amerikkka.
It took almost everything in me to not flag that as inappropriate. Then I thought, if somebody wants to pay $300-$500 for that sow, then let them.
I'm curious as to why you think my post is inappropriate? I cannot imagine anyone in their right mind paying $$$$$ to see her, but hey we live in Amerika, home of pussy whipped guys like TG865.
ThatGuy865
06-17-10, 03:36
Quality pussy cost big bucks in NYC just like anything else. You are either in the A List crowd or a fashionista hipster with TONS of facebook friends or you get the scrap meat no one wants.
Scrap meat in NYC is very different than scrap meat in latin countries. I've seen some fine looking ghetto girls in shanty towns look more attractive than an overfed over pampered piece of lump called AW.
*NYC is crawling with big spenders and GQ model types. What sets you apart from the rest is the amount of money and social influence ( can you get me into that party etc.).
I laugh when people are amazed that NEW YORK CITY isn't pussy heaven for me....all those exotic women etc. They have no idea what kind of ballbusters and brutes these women can be...not complaining just stating the facts.Well at least you're willing to admit there are model types in NYC and as we all know models are NOT fat. And yes it takes bucks to date the ultra sheek in NYC. But that is no different than in any other country.
Do you think a brazilan from the gated communities are looking for a guy from the favelas. Do you think a woman in poblado in Medellin is lookin to date a guy from el centro. No.
The only reason you guys are desireable in these countries is because you are percieved to be wealthy by their standards. Whether its true or not. Perception is reality. And AM and European Men are thought of to have wealth in these developing countries.
The women treat you good because they know if they hook you. You will keep them/date them in a manner which is higher than a man from their country would. So they treat you swell, just as an AW would if she thought you were a good catch.
Most of your problems are you are in that 10% that either can't afford the nicer AW. (like DJ still living at home with mommy). Or lack any social influence (like having a personality, so people like you) like artisttyp seems to think is a bad thing.
Yeah. So you have to work at it in NYC. Big "F" in deal. Man up. And wash your balls. Learn how to dress. Get a personality. Then yes. You too. (well not DJ. He needs more help). Can get a good AW. Ya dig
i almost puked after looking at that. please don't tell me that there are men willing to pay for this animal? and even using the word animal is an insult to the animal species. this is just beyond belief. what the hell is wrong some men in the us??????
i'm just speechless.
since you love aw so much, here's one you can keep for yourself. approx 60% of aw in nyc look like this.
http://chattanooga.backpage.com/femaleescorts/bbw-sweetheart-girlfriend-available-44/2722804
DJ FourMoney
06-17-10, 07:58
I'm curious as to why you think my post is inappropriate? I cannot imagine anyone in their right mind paying $$$$$ to see her, but hey we live in Amerika, home of pussy whipped guys like TG865.
I didn't flag your post, I wanted to flag the link you posted though :)
DJ FourMoney
06-17-10, 08:24
Well at least you're willing to admit there are model types in NYC and as we all know models are NOT fat. And yes it takes bucks to date the ultra sheek in NYC. But that is no different than in any other country.
Do you think a brazilan from the gated communities are looking for a guy from the favelas. Do you think a woman in poblado in Medellin is lookin to date a guy from el centro. No.
The only reason you guys are desireable in these countries is because you are percieved to be wealthy by their standards. Whether its true or not. Perception is reality. And AM and European Men are thought of to have wealth in these developing countries.
The women treat you good because they know if they hook you. You will keep them/date them in a manner which is higher than a man from their country would. So they treat you swell, just as an AW would if she thought you were a good catch.
Most of your problems are you are in that 10% that either can't afford the nicer AW. (like DJ still living at home with mommy). Or lack any social influence (like having a personality, so people like you) like artisttyp seems to think is a bad thing.
Yeah. So you have to work at it in NYC. Big "F" in deal. Man up. And wash your balls. Learn how to dress. Get a personality. Then yes. You too. (well not DJ. He needs more help). Can get a good AW. Ya dig
No I just "need" to conform to social norms. If you have a shity job, the solution in America is work more and work harder. You can not work a part-time job in Los Angeles and have your own place. You can not work a $10 an hour job and have both a new(ish) car and a decent apartment not in a questionable area.
Your solution(s) is to -
1) Continue to work shitty job until you can get a better one.
And this is likely HOW in the current climate? People that are vastly more educated than me are working at Wal-Mart.
2) Work Full Time, Live In a Shitty Apartment, Drive Unreliable Car and Return to School.
For Americans that seriously believe in the Protestant Work Ethic, this seams like a reasonable demand and many have done it before me.
I have recognized I need to do more and started that process. But this is for me, not for AW. If I knew I had to do this for American Pussy, I wouldn't do it, its not worth it. Cause even broke ass b*tches demand you have your shit together.
I say if your both broke, what difference does it make? That's where AW come up short. Because as you know, traveling down market limits your selection somewhat severely.
DJ FourMoney
06-17-10, 08:26
i almost puked after looking at that. please don't tell me that there are men willing to pay for this animal? and even using the word animal is an insult to the animal species. this is just beyond belief. what the hell is wrong some men in the us??????
i'm just speechless.
the options are few and limited, this is market forces at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbApPethuRQ
OK guys (and ThatGuy) apparently here are the (argueably) top 20 singles in Chicago.
What does everyone think? (You can also fast forward to 2:48 to see what they want in a partner...)
Seem intelligent and some are pretty. But for some reason I think after 5 minutes on a date with one of them I'd want to shoot myself.
I didn't flag your post, I wanted to flag the link you posted though :)
I must say, this ugly looking sow is really picky about who she sees........
Offer for professional white gentleman age 35+, must enjoy BBWs.
Well at least you're willing to admit there are model types in NYC and as we all know models are NOT fat. And yes it takes bucks to date the ultra sheek in NYC. But that is no different than in any other country.
Do you think a brazilan from the gated communities are looking for a guy from the favelas. Do you think a woman in poblado in Medellin is lookin to date a guy from el centro. No.
The only reason you guys are desireable in these countries is because you are percieved to be wealthy by their standards. Whether its true or not. Perception is reality. And AM and European Men are thought of to have wealth in these developing countries.
The women treat you good because they know if they hook you. You will keep them/date them in a manner which is higher than a man from their country would. So they treat you swell, just as an AW would if she thought you were a good catch.
Most of your problems are you are in that 10% that either can't afford the nicer AW. (like DJ still living at home with mommy). Or lack any social influence (like having a personality, so people like you) like artisttyp seems to think is a bad thing.
Yeah. So you have to work at it in NYC. Big "F" in deal. Man up. And wash your balls. Learn how to dress. Get a personality. Then yes. You too. (well not DJ. He needs more help). Can get a good AW. Ya dig
I can put myself together pretty well...40 but look in my early 30's...that's not the point.
The point is a good looking guy with his shit together doesn't mean anything. Guys like that are a dime a dozen. What matters are the other variables.
You are female for sure.
I can put myself together pretty well...40 but look in my early 30's...that's not the point.
The point is a good looking guy with his shit together doesn't mean anything. Guys like that are a dime a dozen. What matters are the other variables.The same here. It just happens that I get better deal for my shit elsewhere. Why spend years of your life looking in USA for what does not exist there in the first place? While I had spent 2 months in Central Asia, I had met more perspective spouses than I could meet in USA in a dozen years. Aldo had a crazy girlfriend who fucked me almost everyday like a Brazilean.
You are female for sure.ThatGuy is promoting AW... for whatever reason, while himself enjoying philipina girls. Very selfish actually, he wants others to stay in USA and spend money and energy for AW, so his has more philipinas for himself. At least it makes some sense:)
Bango Cheito
06-17-10, 22:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbApPethuRQ
OK guys (and ThatGuy) apparently here are the (argueably) top 20 singles in Chicago.
What does everyone think? (You can also fast forward to 2:48 to see what they want in a partner...)
Seem intelligent and some are pretty. But for some reason I think after 5 minutes on a date with one of them I'd want to shoot myself.
Damn, that's the best they can do in a city of 8 million??? Bogota has almost the exact same population as Chicago but those women are like 5s and 6s down there.... and I'm not just talking looks, but PERSONALITY... the second one they showed is the only one with any sense of style, for example...
My brand new current gf fades every last one of those mediocre women, AND she has more money than I do. She also left a guy who had more money than GOD to be with me, in an OPEN relationship at that. So much for another one of TG's half-backed theories!!
TG I could probably pull half of those women if I wanted to but WHY THE HELL WOULD I WANT TO??? Those are 3 o clock slop for me now!!
The other thing is, yeah so gorgeous babe X comes from some country in South America to be a model and make it big in NYC. She winds up working some dead-end retail job and barely makes rent, if that. In two years, her body has turned to flabby shit from the terrible garbage people try to make pass for edible food in this fucking country.
Even when I was here in the 90s, when we used to go out clubbing looking to get laid, the big thing we were looking for were the RECENT ARRIVALS!
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