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DJ FourMoney
06-18-10, 00:37
damn, that's the best they can do in a city of 8 million??? bogota has almost the exact same population as chicago but those women are like 5s and 6s down there.... and i'm not just talking looks, but personality... the second one they showed is the only one with any sense of style, for example...

my brand new current gf fades every last one of those mediocre women, and she has more money than i do. she also left a guy who had more money than god to be with me, in an open relationship at that. so much for another one of tg's half-backed theories!!

tg i could probably pull half of those women if i wanted to but why the hell would i want to??? those are 3 o clock slop for me now!!

the other thing is, yeah so gorgeous babe x comes from some country in south america to be a model and make it big in nyc. she winds up working some dead-end retail job and barely makes rent, if that. in two years, her body has turned to flabby shit from the terrible garbage people try to make pass for edible food in this fucking country.

even when i was here in the 90s, when we used to go out clubbing looking to get laid, the big thing we were looking for were the recent arrivals!

well it seems one of the women got it. the one that said something to the effect that after dating men that look and sounded great on paper, in practice they were much less interesting to be around than just a guy that i just enjoyed being around, despite his lack of cultural development or education.

too bad it had to learn that beyond the age of 30 as many aw seem to. she's lucky some don't learn ever and others take until their 40 to get it.

tg is a protector of the status que like i said, it shouldn't surprise anybody that he says were a bunch of sour grapes.

ThatGuy865
06-18-10, 02:15
Now allow me to address each of your points.

Bango. As I stated perception is everything. And even though a girl left a guy with as much money as GOD. He was probably from there. And as I stated AM and European Men are percieved to treat women better than men from developing nations. Westernize men are perceived (wrongly or rightly) as not as hard, demanding, uncaring, not hardcore drunks, less likely to smack a women. Especially those that travel outside of the country, compared to the avg man of their countries. So as I said that gives you a upper hand compared to the men of those countries.

If those women were so into just any man, why are so many in online date sites for men from America. You don't see AW advertising in such number for foreign men. Most look for AM..

DJ. I feel for you and your situation. Yes its hard for a low income guy to pull women, especially in a city like L. A.. You just have to strive to better yourself. For yourself and not for the women. But also the reason broke women don't easily accept broke men is they too are looking to better themselves. And a broke ass man has nothing or very little to offer but dick. And women can get that with the greatest of ease. Always remember part of a womens value is in her looks, while part of a man's is in his wallet. Remember I said PART. And not all but it does count for something. A saying I was taught as a little boy. Clothes don't make a man. But a man without is a man you doubt.

Now Gung. Yes I go to the PI. I do like to take monger vacations. Its not the only place I've been. I've been to 12. Count them 12 different countries and all more than once. I've been traveling around the world for the past 20 years. Because I like to travel, not because I think the women in those countries treat me any better than I get treated by AW. Just because I enjoy the fruits from other areas doesn't mean I don't enjoy the ones in my own back yard. I still date AW. Will be with one this weekend. I just enjoy women. Every country has good and bad ones. As I have always told people. You put me on the north pole and I'd find a babe to get laid.

As for Jon. I see nothing wrong with those women. The interviews were to short for me to draw any conclusions as to how they would be as partners. Some looked ok. I definitely wouldn't call them chicago's finest women. But some thought they were. But opinons come a dime a dozen. But in any case none were fat, disgustingly ugly as always stated on this board. Which goes to my point, there are good AW out there. Just as there are good women in other countries.

Bango Cheito
06-18-10, 02:37
I know several of these girls and have dated a few of them.... this is some stupid rocker chick contest.... obviously you have to like the rocker look to like these girls... but here's an idea....

http://www.chicacolombianshows.com/participantes/

Bimbo Boy
06-18-10, 04:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbApPethuRQ
OK guys (and ThatGuy) apparently here are the (argueably) top 20 singles in Chicago.
...
Seem intelligent and some are pretty. But for some reason I think after 5 minutes on a date with one of them I'd want to shoot myself.

Jon32. You are right on target. All is said !

ThatGuy865
06-18-10, 04:47
I know several of these girls and have dated a few of them.... this is some stupid rocker chick contest.... obviously you have to like the rocker look to like these girls... but here's an idea....

http://www.chicacolombianshows.com/participantes/Yeah I see chicks looking as good on Sunset and Hollywood blvd everyday .... go to whisky's any day of the week.

Bango Cheito
06-19-10, 05:56
yeah i see chicks looking as good on sunset and hollywood blvd everyday .... go to whisky's any day of the week.

maybe 30 years ago.... here i appropriately quote the reo speedwagon song...

i dont believe it
not for a minuteeeee :)

post pics!

Voyajer1
06-19-10, 14:17
If that Chicago's Top 20 (Depending from whose point of view, not mine by the way) is any indication, the pickings are getting slim indeed. Yes, TG, I know, there are thousands of really, really good looking girls in all major cities in Sex Jail. But let's think for a moment what it will take for an average male to go out with such a creature. Then there is the guarantee of virtually no sex no matter how much game you bring to the party, no matter how well you tret them, no matter how well you get along, dance, sing, hold hands, read poetry, drive a race car, sail a yatch, fly a plane, save the world with such a creature. There is just no pleasing these biatches intellectually. It is just not worth the effort, in my humble opinion.
Take your game overseas. Dinner, a night out and you are having breakfast in bed after a mind-blowing, life altering sexcapade. It isn't even close between the two. Not to mention the short-cuts overseas in the P4P arena. I am not saying that things work out like that everytime, but it certainly does not take months or years of effort to make such conquests. It is not easy to get it on anywhere, but for me, it happens quite often when not in the good old Sex Prison. This is why I can't waste my time with the crass, vulgar, or even the so called intellectual sophisticates that qualify as a city's top 20. They have no idea how to get down with a good man. Period.

Goga Fung
06-19-10, 16:44
maybe 30 years ago.... here i appropriately quote the reo speedwagon song...

i dont believe it
not for a minuteeeee :)

post pics!pics do not count. anybody can find a girl and take pics. it should be at least video how thatguy(or whoever who is an average guy, about 35-40-50 year old, not a celebrity or millioneer) meets hot model girls anywhere in usa and fucks them without spending thousands $$$ and months of time.

Furysys
06-19-10, 23:04
In a word.....BORING!! Couldn't even watch it all, was putting me to sleep

ThatGuy865
06-19-10, 23:40
If that Chicago's Top 20 (Depending from whose point of view, not mine by the way) is any indication, the pickings are getting slim indeed. Yes, TG, I know, there are thousands of really, really good looking girls in all major cities in Sex Jail. But let's think for a moment what it will take for an average male to go out with such a creature. Then there is the guarantee of virtually no sex no matter how much game you bring to the party, no matter how well you tret them, no matter how well you get along, dance, sing, hold hands, read poetry, drive a race car, sail a yatch, fly a plane, save the world with such a creature. There is just no pleasing these biatches intellectually. It is just not worth the effort, in my humble opinion.

Take your game overseas. Dinner, a night out and you are having breakfast in bed after a mind-blowing, life altering sexcapade. It isn't even close between the two. Not to mention the short-cuts overseas in the P4P arena. I am not saying that things work out like that everytime, but it certainly does not take months or years of effort to make such conquests. It is not easy to get it on anywhere, but for me, it happens quite often when not in the good old Sex Prison. This is why I can't waste my time with the crass, vulgar, or even the so called intellectual sophisticates that qualify as a city's top 20. They have no idea how to get down with a good man. Period.Well at least you are willing to say there are beautiful AW. Now as far as sex crazed. Well the issue with AW has a lot to do with AIDS. You have to realize the media campain that went on during the late 80's and 90's warning everyone about how sexual partners and the spread of the "Deadly diease". Which caused a lot of women to step back from sexual openess. In most of the countries mongering is most popular there has not been the media blitz of repressing sexual behavior as there was in america. Where have you seen the ad "you are sleeping with everyone your partner has ever slept with". Besides in the USA. So women were bombarded with these messages constantly throughout the 80's and 90's.

So yes AW are much more cautious about who they sleep with (fewer will have a one night stand nowadays) but to say that they don't like sex as much as women from other countries. Is ludicris. There are sex addiction clinics in every major city. Even if you said well only men attend. Those men have to be finding women to have sex with. What each and everyone of you mean is "I" can't find sex like "I" can in foreign countries. Yeah for YOU the country is a SEX PRISON (and there is nothing wrong with saying that, but don't generalize the situation). Because for millions of AM. AW are treating them just fine. Thats the bottom line. TG just keepin it real. ya dig.

Artisttyp
06-20-10, 01:17
Now as far as sex crazed. Well the issue with AW has a lot to do with AIDS. You have to realize the media campain that went on during the late 80's and 90's warning everyone about how sexual partners and the spread of the "Deadly diease". Which caused a lot of women to step back from sexual openess. In most of the countries mongering is most popular there has not been the media blitz of repressing sexual behavior as there was in america.


Excellent point. Add to that the large majority of gays and "metro sexuals" in urban US cities and it gets even harder. Here in NYC you have to prove that you AREN'T gay because most women assume that the majority of guys here are gay or bi.

There are tons of std's around that are more severe than the old Vd syndrome...ie HPV (for women). As well as TB swine flu and all the other infectious garbage.

It's not a great time for random sex. Any well educated female knows this. IMHO women have more to lose (giving birth) if they contract something.

Education plays a big role and so does opportunity. Countries or people with less opportunity will fuck and drug themselves to happiness than those who aren't deprived of those things.

It's not worth it for women to screw around. They can still benefit by being a player and not giving it up. There will always be guys willing to compete for a ZERO return.

Very astute post though TG. I agree with you on this one.

...forgot to mention ethnicity plays a huge role in womens perception as well. We all know the stereo types...which race is more prone to be bisexual who bangs almost anything...etc. Women think like this all the time and stereotype their potential lovers just like we do. Although our prerequisites are rather simple...suck my .....

These are scary times. Only degenerate mongers like myself loan their penis to almost any girl they see :)

Ezinho
06-20-10, 20:13
Well at least you are willing to say there are beautiful AW.
Although there are some guys on here posting pictures of hideous women, I don't think anyone ever said there are no beautiful AW. I can admit that there are some very beautiful women in America, specifically California. But their attitudes are, for the most part, just terrible. That is what people are talking about on here I think.

The issue that I agree with TG on is what he posted about in the Angeles City thread (and maybe he's mentioned it on here too) about how most girls from third world countries ARE only with us Western guys for our money and security. This is the only reason why a 20 year old Pinay would want to be with/marry a 60 year old American. Us younger guys on the ISG get attacked by the older guys for saying things like this, but it's true.

Anyway, marriage is an outdated and antiquated institution IMHO, regardless of where the woman is from.

Australiasucks
06-20-10, 21:14
If you blokes really have a problem with American women, Western Europe will be a major letdown as well. Skank is the best way to describe most women I have seen here, not only that, many women here are fat and ugly as well. So i guess this now leaves Asia, Latin America, and Eastern Europe as the major female destinations, as they modernize things will go South there too.

ThatGuy865
06-20-10, 23:09
Although there are some guys on here posting pictures of hideous women, I don't think anyone ever said there are no beautiful AW. I can admit that there are some very beautiful women in America, specifically California. But their attitudes are, for the most part, just terrible. That is what people are talking about on here I think.

The issue that I agree with TG on is what he posted about in the Angeles City thread (and maybe he's mentioned it on here too) about how most girls from third world countries ARE only with us Western guys for our money and security. This is the only reason why a 20 year old Pinay would want to be with/marry a 60 year old American. Us younger guys on the ISG get attacked by the older guys for saying things like this, but it's true.

Anyway, marriage is an outdated and antiquated institution IMHO, regardless of where the woman is from.I definitely would agree with you on the marriage issue. I have always thought it should be like a drivers license. Set for maybe 5 to 7 years. Renewable if both agree with an agreed upon split at the beginning so each knows exactly what to expect when the license ended.

Unless kids are involved then the license would be set until the 18th birthday of the last kid. If broken obviously child support would be involved.

I think this would prevent both from becoming too comfortable with the idea of the other won't or can't leave and both would work at keeping each other happy, knowing in a few years the other could leave automatically.

Voyajer1
06-21-10, 03:19
i think you missed my point and that's understandable because i didn't explain myself completely. there is not enough room in this forum to explain all the ridiculous situations i have been in dealing with the aw. it has absolutely nothing to do with media campaigns about partners and so on. that is just an excuse. the problems with the aw go far deeper than what's on tv about a deadly desease.

how can you explain all the sexless marriages in the country? why after giving a woman a voice in a man's life the only voice that will be heard at all cost is hers, using sex as a carrot to a man's needs and desires, creating a virtual state of war in about 6 out of every 10 marriages?

you talk about the media attempting to suppress sexual openness, yet, i see ad after ad using female sexuality selling everything from chewing gum to freaking fiber additives. in addition, if you ever watch a sporting event, isn't it all about beer, biatches and sexual inuendo? not to mention how many sexual stimulants get advertised even during cartoons (consult a doctor if you have an erection lasting more that 4 hours? ring a bell?).

i don't see anything like the constant bombardment of sexual imagery anywhere i travel, except in, well, you guessed it, sex jail. all other countries do not advertise sex 24/7 like in the usa. you don't believe me? get out of jail and check for yourself.

now, tg, you know i am an honest broker. you know this. so why isn't the other side, the aw, cooperating more? because i don't wear my pants down to my mid-thighs? because i don't have a bunch of tatoos? because i don't go around slapping women around? because i don't have 20 kids with 20 women that i don't pay child support to? because i am not an irresponsible sob that's been in jail not once, not twice, but 5 to 10? because i don't do drugs? because i don't present the aura of the bruiser who is a loser image that women love so much? oh, yes, those are the guys, not all of them, i see pulling america's best looking women. check for yourself that i'm telling the truth. in turn, this is making the rest of us guilty by being in the same gender, even though we are the last choice women will make. aw have major issues with the choices they make for companionship. i mean, how many women will like a professional pulling 100k, who have their stuff together?

oh, yeah, don't tell me. it is the fault of every responsible am like everything else. again, i go overseas and don't have to worry about 75% of the bs we have to deal with here. as i said before, aw just don't have a clue how to get down. their minds are rep001tered with major control issues, deception and hidden agendas. i just don't play a losing hand. get it?

well at least you are willing to say there are beautiful aw. now as far as sex crazed. well the issue with aw has a lot to do with aids. you have to realize the media campain that went on during the late 80's and 90's warning everyone about how sexual partners and the spread of the "deadly diease". which caused a lot of women to step back from sexual openess. in most of the countries mongering is most popular there has not been the media blitz of repressing sexual behavior as there was in america. where have you seen the ad "you are sleeping with everyone your partner has ever slept with". besides in the usa. so women were bombarded with these messages constantly throughout the 80's and 90's.

so yes aw are much more cautious about who they sleep with (fewer will have a one night stand nowadays) but to say that they don't like sex as much as women from other countries. is ludicris. there are sex addiction clinics in every major city. even if you said well only men attend. those men have to be finding women to have sex with. what each and everyone of you mean is "i" can't find sex like "i" can in foreign countries. yeah for you the country is a sex prison (and there is nothing wrong with saying that, but don't generalize the situation). because for millions of am. aw are treating them just fine. thats the bottom line. tg just keepin it real. ya dig.

ThatGuy865
06-21-10, 05:36
i think you missed my point and that's understandable because i didn't explain myself completely. there is not enough room in this forum to explain all the ridiculous situations i have been in dealing with the aw. it has absolutely nothing to do with media campaigns about partners and so on. that is just an excuse. the problems with the aw go far deeper than what's on tv about a deadly desease.

how can you explain all the sexless marriages in the country? why after giving a woman a voice in a man's life the only voice that will be heard at all cost is hers, using sex as a carrot to a man's needs and desires, creating a virtual state of war in about 6 out of every 10 marriages?

you talk about the media attempting to suppress sexual openness, yet, i see ad after ad using female sexuality selling everything from chewing gum to freaking fiber additives. in addition, if you ever watch a sporting event, isn't it all about beer, biatches and sexual inuendo? not to mention how many sexual stimulants get advertised even during cartoons (consult a doctor if you have an erection lasting more that 4 hours? ring a bell?).

i don't see anything like the constant bombardment of sexual imagery anywhere i travel, except in, well, you guessed it, sex jail. all other countries do not advertise sex 24/7 like in the usa. you don't believe me? get out of jail and check for yourself.

now, tg, you know i am an honest broker. you know this. so why isn't the other side, the aw, cooperating more? because i don't wear my pants down to my mid-thighs? because i don't have a bunch of tatoos? because i don't go around slapping women around? because i don't have 20 kids with 20 women that i don't pay child support to? because i am not an irresponsible sob that's been in jail not once, not twice, but 5 to 10? because i don't do drugs? because i don't present the aura of the bruiser who is a loser image that women love so much? oh, yes, those are the guys, not all of them, i see pulling america's best looking women. check for yourself that i'm telling the truth. in turn, this is making the rest of us guilty by being in the same gender, even though we are the last choice women will make. aw have major issues with the choices they make for companionship. i mean, how many women will like a professional pulling 100k, who have their stuff together?

oh, yeah, don't tell me. it is the fault of every responsible am like everything else. again, i go overseas and don't have to worry about 75% of the bs we have to deal with here. as i said before, aw just don't have a clue how to get down. their minds are rep001tered with major control issues, deception and hidden agendas. i just don't play a losing hand. get it?v. get a clue dude. all those things pertaining to sex you mentioned is to get men aroused. when have you heard of a women have an erection. yes there are sexless marriages. but you seem to think it all about the women. what every am is a sexual dynamo. yeah right! if men were so sex crazed as you say then why did they have to come up with viagra. most sex enhancers are for men. it would appear its am who have trouble getting it up. not women. and i'm not saying every single man has this issue. so don't get on about how you never had to use this. i speaking in general terms.

the reason i brought up the media aspect about it. and obviously you don't comprehend very well is guys complain. why do i have to go thru so much to get laid with aw. well they are cautious. they have more to lose than the foreign babe. well if you screw a foreign babe and leave. who's to know. she can screw 100 foreign guys as long as her peeps don't know, her reputation is intact. but would she screw 100 guys from her city. hell no. will she give it up so easily to each and every guy. hell no. like i said. you are percieved to be wealthy, a great catch. thats the only reason you get laid there eaiser. you fooling yourself if you think those women are just that easy for all guys. if so then they fucking like pro's. if they fuck like that for any and all guys. why do those countries have prostitutes if the women fuck so easily. a guy could drive over to the next area and go to the bar and find a babe to fuck for free. why pay. think about it.

Mike12
06-21-10, 07:22
I went to NY Golf Center to buy a couple hundred dollar golf rangefinder the other day as I'm on the links every weekend. Upon entering the empty store I spot the counter area with what I need and A young blonde behind it fidgeting doing nothing. I attempt to say Hello and make eye contact to get service which didn't happen, at which point I start looking around the store at the Callaway Big Berthas and fancy new lob wedges only Tiger Woods knows how to use. Soon I start pinching myself to see if I exist, and go back and look at the expensive rangefinders amidst an uncomfortable silence with silent goldilocks an arm-length away. As I made my exit from the store sans rangefinder I thought of those wonderful duty free shops in every Latin American country airport, and how you can't not spend money in there with the great service and cheery faces, meanwhile I'll be damned if this place gets my money with nonexistent service, and free of duty counter girls with no courtesy.

Goga Fung
06-21-10, 16:21
Although there are some guys on here posting pictures of hideous women, I don't think anyone ever said there are no beautiful AW. I can admit that there are some very beautiful women in America, specifically California. But their attitudes are, for the most part, just terrible. That is what people are talking about on here I think.there are some good looking girls of course, but if the percentage of the whol population is low it does not work for most guys, they must settle with whats available.


Anyway, marriage is an outdated and antiquated institution IMHO, regardless of where the woman is from.There are still good places, most Americans do not know about. For example Central Asia. Still have great traditions and beautiful women.

Capt Ajax
06-21-10, 16:52
It's a well known fact that when many American women go overseas they like to release all their pent up sexual frustrations and will fuck almost anything that moves, this is especially true of older AW and young college girls. This happens all over Europe and all over the Caribbean Islands.

So an AW's pussy is easily accessible for foreigners but damn near impossible for AM.


Why do I have to go thru so much to get laid with AW. Well they are cautious.

Bango Cheito
06-22-10, 01:52
v. get a clue dude. all those things pertaining to sex you mentioned is to get men aroused. when have you heard of a women have an erection. yes there are sexless marriages. but you seem to think it all about the women. what every am is a sexual dynamo. yeah right! if men were so sex crazed as you say then why did they have to come up with viagra. most sex enhancers are for men. it would appear its am who have trouble getting it up. not women. and i'm not saying every single man has this issue. so don't get on about how you never had to use this. i speaking in general terms.

the reason i brought up the media aspect about it. and obviously you don't comprehend very well is guys complain. why do i have to go thru so much to get laid with aw. well they are cautious. they have more to lose than the foreign babe. well if you screw a foreign babe and leave. who's to know. she can screw 100 foreign guys as long as her peeps don't know, her reputation is intact. but would she screw 100 guys from her city. hell no. will she give it up so easily to each and every guy. hell no. like i said. you are percieved to be wealthy, a great catch. thats the only reason you get laid there eaiser. you fooling yourself if you think those women are just that easy for all guys. if so then they fucking like pro's. if they fuck like that for any and all guys. why do those countries have prostitutes if the women fuck so easily. a guy could drive over to the next area and go to the bar and find a babe to fuck for free. why pay. think about it.

now that last part i can agree with.... women all over are worried about their reputation... and they know guys kiss and tell... guys are really in fact bigger fucking idiots than the women... because they will work their asses off to conquer some local chickenhead and then go around talking shit about her to all their friends... this is totally shooting onesself in the foot.... but ignorant ass people do it all the time...

if you come from out of town, it's much easier.

ThatGuy865
06-22-10, 03:25
It's a well known fact that when many American women go overseas they like to release all their pent up sexual frustrations and will fuck almost anything that moves, this is especially true of older AW and young college girls. This happens all over Europe and all over the Caribbean Islands.

So an AW's pussy is easily accessible for foreigners but damn near impossible for AM.You just proved my point by saying this. Its the same for these guys in reverse. Its just the guys are doing the traveling. Women don't want it spread around that they are loose. So screwing a foreigner ensures the info goes to another country (for the guys traveling) and stays in another country (for the women traveling). Remember if a guys screw 20 women he's a stud. And will not be shun by very many women. If a women does it. She's a *****. And will be shun by many men. So they don't let it happen.

Thats why foreign women will screw AM easily, one, they are perceived as wealthy and two. Their reputations will remain intact because only thoses she want to know. Will know.

Goga Fung
06-22-10, 07:21
.... If men were so sex crazed as you say then why did they have to come up with viagra. Most sex enhancers are for MEN. It would appear its AM who have trouble getting it up. Not women. Yes, its AM who have trouble getting it up. But why?

If all women looked good and were good sexually including BJ, viagra would not be that necessary. No wonder viagra is so popular since most AW are not good looking. Often I'm really puzzled how those guys with buttugly women can get it hard, probably after using viagra or something.

Dickhead
06-23-10, 00:27
In two more months I will face 8 to 9 months of exposure to these cows. Is there any type of vaccine I can take or am I better off with a lot of protective equipment?

ThatGuy865
06-23-10, 03:49
Yes, its AM who have trouble getting it up. But why?

If all women looked good and were good sexually including BJ, viagra would not be that necessary. No wonder viagra is so popular since most AW are not good looking. Often I'm really puzzled how those guys with buttugly women can get it hard, probably after using viagra or something.If that is the case. Why is viagra so popular in Thailand, Philippines, all over SEA. They take it more in those countries than the USA where its harder to get. I guess those women are dog ugly and bad at sex too. And the guys have trouble getting it up for them.

Goga Fung
06-23-10, 13:14
If that is the case. Why is viagra so popular in Thailand, Philippines, all over SEA. They take it more in those countries than the USA where its harder to get. I guess those women are dog ugly and bad at sex too. And the guys have trouble getting it up for them.Maybe they are taking it for a different purpose?

Of course there are lots of ugly women everywhere. In my(and many others') opinion in North America Viagra would be necessary in the first place where the percentage of fat/obese women if higher than in other places. In addition to that many AW's behavior is a big turnoff too. Just look at the recently posted video here, that Chicago top 20 singles.

I would assume, in USA you need tons of viagra just to get any positive erection for most AW. In other places one might wanna use viagra to have more sex or when you're under influence or alcogol.

But in any case, I'm not an expert, this is only from my observations, also have never taken anything like viagra yet. So far my problems have been connected to drinking too much or if a woman is not good enough. So I have always blamed women for the men's problems, maybe this does not sound good to some, but who cares, since it has been like this in my experience.

Capt Ajax
06-23-10, 14:56
In two more months I will face 8 to 9 months of exposure to these cows. Is there any type of vaccine I can take or am I better off with a lot of protective equipment?

Wow 8-9 month's! You'd be better off slicing off the "stick" and "two nuts" with a damn machete.

Dickhead
06-23-10, 17:34
I have three weeks off in the middle, plus two other single weeks. Otherwise I wouldn't do it. But mongering requires money.

Nyc Expat
06-23-10, 21:06
All West European countries with the exception of Germany is not a destination to practice your hobby. You are wasting your time and money. You would be better off trying to score an AW at home. If you desire to travel to avoid AW, Asia and South America is the preferred destination as the attitude towards men, life style, affordability and general overall experience is much more pleasurable.

Go to Europe to sightsee, learn and experience their cultures.

Capt Ajax
06-23-10, 22:48
All West European countries with the exception of Germany is not a destination to practice your hobby. You are wasting your time and money. You would be better off trying to score an AW at home. If you desire to travel to avoid AW, Asia and South America is the preferred destination as the attitude towards men, life style, affordability and general overall experience is much more pleasurable.

Go to Europe to sightsee, learn and experience their cultures.

I agree only Germany is worth visiting for P4P activities. Asia and South America is where it's at IMHO.

Goga Fung
06-23-10, 23:18
I agree only Germany is worth visiting for P4P activities. Asia and South America is where it's at IMHO.Only Germany? Whats wrong with Czech republic? Even though it has been messed up a lot by western tourists during the last 10 years, but still a good place compared to other places.

And I'm not even talking about Eastern Europe yet.

Capt Ajax
06-24-10, 02:28
This does not good look for traveling mongers.


New study shows Brazil losing battle of the bulge
RIO DE JANEIRO – Brazilians are battling the bulge.

A government study says the South American country known for its bikinis is expanding at the waistline.

The Health Ministry notes that in 2009, 46.6 percent of Brazil's 190 million people were overweight. That's up from 42.7 percent in 2006.

The rate of obesity also rose, from 11.4 percent in 2006 to 13.9 percent in 2009.

The study released Monday is based on interviews with 54,000 adults. The result: 51 percent of men and 42.3 percent of women are overweight.

The study blamed poor eating habits, lack of exercise and genetics.

Brazil is still slim, however, compared to the United States, where a recent study showed 68 percent of the population was overweight.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100621/ap_on_he_me/lt_brazil_battle_of_the_bulge

Voyajer1
06-24-10, 02:47
Remember, some of us live in this dump :D

Wow 8-9 month's! You'd be better off slicing off the "stick" and "two nuts" with a damn machete.

Capt Ajax
06-24-10, 13:56
Only Germany? Whats wrong with Czech republic? Even though it has been messed up a lot by western tourists during the last 10 years, but still a good place compared to other places.

And I'm not even talking about Eastern Europe yet.

Sorry I was not clear, I was referring to West European countries.

Australiasucks
06-24-10, 14:13
Ajax,

I have to disagree, so far Germany has been a disappointment compared to past years, the hobby is going downhill in Deutschland, many FKK clubs are becoming partytreffs and sauna clubs, and the quality of women is deteriorating. I noticed far fewer Russians and Ukrainian women working in German clubs, I guess since Russia is now on the comeback track, they must be going back home. Also I have noticed everyday women in Germany are getting fatter and uglier. In fact, I have to reassess Australian women, they sure have attitude and are as bitchy as those in the US, but most women I see in Sydney in their 20s are more attractive than what I have found so far in Europe. So if you look like a rugby hero, have oodles of cash, etc, you might have a chance with one.

DJ FourMoney
06-24-10, 18:42
I have three weeks off in the middle, plus two other single weeks. Otherwise I wouldn't do it. But mongering requires money.

Mexico is fairly cheap, unless you find yourself in the Northern half of America.

Dickhead
06-24-10, 20:39
México is not a good place to be right now. I figure Costa Rica on the one weekers, and Argentina for the three weeks. I have lived in and mongered all over México and the fucking place is too Catholic.

Dickhead
06-25-10, 17:04
My niece sent me a picture of a friend of hers who lives near where I will be working. She was cute, so we exchanged a couple of e-mails and today I called her on the phone. The conversation went like this:

DH: Blah blah inane platitudes
AW: Trivial conversation
DH: More bullshit
AW: BTW I am a Scientologist

Click.

Goga Fung
06-25-10, 17:43
Ajax,

I have to disagree, so far Germany has been a disappointment compared to past years, the hobby is going downhill in Deutschland, many FKK clubs are becoming partytreffs and sauna clubs, and the quality of women is deteriorating. I noticed far fewer Russians and Ukrainian women working in German clubs, I guess since Russia is now on the comeback track, they must be going back home. It looks like women are deteriorating in many places. I was in Barcelona one year ago, most women were fat,ugly or both. Russia is also becoming worse. I saw pics from a friends' daughter prom. Most of the girls wer fat, also dressed like on an American prom. If I did not know, I would think the pics were from USA!

ThatGuy865
06-25-10, 21:28
It looks like women are deteriorating in many places. I was in Barcelona one year ago, most women were fat,ugly or both. Russia is also becoming worse. I saw pics from a friends' daughter prom. Most of the girls wer fat, also dressed like on an American prom. If I did not know, I would think the pics were from USA!I guess you guys better get all the skinny pootane you can now. Cause in 10 to 15 yrs the world is going to be like the USA. Enjoy while you can.

McDonalds, Domino pizza and Kentucky's colonel with his fried chicken. Has gone world wide. Besides western attitude also catching on. It won't be long.

Guys 20 and 30 yr olds better get used to it. Cause thats what you will have to chase in your 50's. And pay for it at that.

Nyc Expat
06-26-10, 00:23
Whether you guys like it or not, it's the Americanization of US life style towards western societies in Europe, Asia and South America too. How you ask? US fast food chains, unhealthy snack foods and sweet beverages. The damage began in the early, mid-1980's when fast food chains expanded across the pond.

When I moved to Europe there were no fast food chains and in Copenhagen only 2 pizza restaurants. Now these food chains are so close to each other, you can smell the fat. Every street corner there today has a pizza take-out business. Before it was pubs. Everyone is drinking colas etc. now. The population is exercising less. I used to take public transportation or bicycle to my work about 6 km. one way. Now cheap Asian vehicles are available to almost everyone at affordable prices.

70% Americans are overweight and 1/3 obese. The epidemic has been spreading overseas for over 20 years. IMHO the desire to improve the bottom line yearly has caused these problems. People need to be educated on the dangers of putting junk food in their mouth.

Another reason why so many more people are overweight is the mix of ethnic groups in families.

Hey Aussie, when will you be in DK?

Goga Fung
06-26-10, 12:59
I guess you guys better get all the skinny pootane you can now. Cause in 10 to 15 yrs the world is going to be like the USA. Enjoy while you can.

McDonalds, Domino pizza and Kentucky's colonel with his fried chicken. Has gone world wide. Besides western attitude also catching on. It won't be long.

Guys 20 and 30 yr olds better get used to it. Cause thats what you will have to chase in your 50's. And pay for it at that.Unfortunately it is difficult to get used to it, after you've been spoiled with nice stuff. But in USA(also in Barcelona!) I see lots of normal looking guys with buttugly fat girls. They have got used to that.

I'm in Colombia now, it is getting fat too. Although still some nice ones. But already see on the streets lots of fat asses. At least no obese people yet.

Still there are places in the world where plenty of slim beautiful girls can be found. I'm going there next month. The place is corrupted, lots of burocracy. not business-friendly especially for import, long expensive flights, visas for gringos, etc. Plus strong family traditions and values. Probably the reasons why it is still in a good(but not as good as before) shape with respect to women.

ThatGuy865
06-26-10, 18:24
Unfortunately it is difficult to get used to it, after you've been spoiled with nice stuff. But in USA(also in Barcelona!) I see lots of normal looking guys with buttugly fat girls. They have got used to that.

I'm in Colombia now, it is getting fat too. Although still some nice ones. But already see on the streets lots of fat asses. At least no obese people yet.

Still there are places in the world where plenty of slim beautiful girls can be found. I'm going there next month. The place is corrupted, lots of burocracy. not business-friendly especially for import, long expensive flights, visas for gringos, etc. Plus strong family traditions and values. Probably the reasons why it is still in a good(but not as good as before) shape with respect to women.Just wait it will be everywhere. China is becoming westernized. And soon Fast food will be the norm there. Then they will help spread it throughout asia being the powerhouse they are becoming and big on importing. Fast food, Microwaves, and cheap transportation (China is about to start in the auto business and will make them even cheaper) All are what has fattened the world. People do not have to walk/be active and food has gotten fattening by being processed and portions bigger.

As for attitudes, the internet will take care of changing that. As more and more 3rd world women chat and see how westernize women are treated/Act around the world, 3rd world women, attitudes and expectation will change also.

This is the modern day phenomenon. And the world all over will have to deal with it.

Gong. Eventually 10 to 15 years down the road. Guys like you will have to go to a jungle town to find an area full of fit/traditional women. Hope you speak jungle and won't mind the accomodations.

Bango Cheito
06-26-10, 23:59
Unfortunately it is difficult to get used to it, after you've been spoiled with nice stuff. But in USA(also in Barcelona!) I see lots of normal looking guys with buttugly fat girls. They have got used to that.

I'm in Colombia now, it is getting fat too. Although still some nice ones. But already see on the streets lots of fat asses. At least no obese people yet.

Still there are places in the world where plenty of slim beautiful girls can be found. I'm going there next month. The place is corrupted, lots of burocracy. not business-friendly especially for import, long expensive flights, visas for gringos, etc. Plus strong family traditions and values. Probably the reasons why it is still in a good(but not as good as before) shape with respect to women.

Depends on where you are in Colombia... Bogota Medellin Cali Ibague and the eje don't have very many fat women.... the coast sure does!! I find girls in Santander also to be especially nice looking.... they do have big asses but not FAT big asses.... NICE big asses :0

Goga Fung
06-27-10, 00:47
Depends on where you are in Colombia... Bogota Medellin Cali Ibague and the eje don't have very many fat women.... the coast sure does!! I find girls in Santander also to be especially nice looking.... they do have big asses but not FAT big asses.... NICE big asses :0I was actually talking about Medellin. I'm staying in Poblado, see lots of fat ass women coming to the apartamentos. During day we were en el Centro, now it is more difficult to spot a nice slim girl than before. Also an hour ago had dinner in Parque Lleras, saw a really obese girl passing by(never had seen this in Colombia before(, not sure if she is local or American. Probably local, since she would not fit into an airplane. So obviously the "civilization"is coming here.

CherchezFemme
06-27-10, 08:57
After I posted about a month ago in this thread, my complaints and issues with American women kept building in my head. One night I couldn't sleep, I tossed and turned for hours, sweating, thinking about women, sex, marriage, dating, sex, sex, having babies until finally.... I said fuck it, got up at 3:30, went downstairs, bought a few beers, then typed a rant that I posted in craigslist.

I called it "99 Problems and bitches are some"

It says some of the same things as my earlier post did, but its much nastier and funnier. For example, it concludes with :

" Living here (Manhattan) does have its upside, even though some of you NASTY, SCABBY, AIDS-coated 10 CENT HO BAGS have had the nerve to ask me "Why do you live THERE? Why in THAT building? Why don't you live in a penthouse? Why don't you drive a Jaguar? Why is your sausage only 6 inches? I want at least 9 inches long"

You STUPID, STUPID, SILLY, CHILDISH, MIND-F*CKING WOMEN WITH A GENITAL WART FOR A BRAIN, this is NOT Sex and the City! Having things does not make you happy! Not every guy is Mr. Big! You are not going to marry Derek Jeter or a European soccer star ! DIE DIE DIE!!! "

I was going to repost it here but its pretty vulgar so I decided not to.

Anyway, I just thought it would be interesting to know that I really do feel better after having posted that rant, and that I feel more at peace with myself.

I've realized, thanks also to a few things I read immediately after, that I simply need to get in better shape to improve my game and of course my health. For the first time, I've actually been tracking my calories on fitday.com, and I've lost 12 lbs in a month. Not BS water weight either. No starvation, no deprivation. Just being disciplined.

I've also decided to do something about what's been bothering me for a few years. I left teaching b/c I felt I wasn't accomplishing anything. I realized I want more income and a prestigious job.

Basically I've reached a point where I have a pretty clear idea of what I want. I had decided to get my MBA at a local school and start in September but now I'm going to postpone it and instead apply to 3 Top 10 business schools for Fall of 2011.

So, I just wanted to let you guys know that it can help to get shit, and I mean the shit in your soul, off your chest. Post a rant on Craigslist, it can't hurt.

Australiasucks
06-27-10, 12:22
Whether you guys like it or not, it's the Americanization of US life style towards western societies in Europe, Asia and South America too. How you ask? US fast food chains, unhealthy snack foods and sweet beverages. The damage began in the early, mid-1980's when fast food chains expanded across the pond.

When I moved to Europe there were no fast food chains and in Copenhagen only 2 pizza restaurants. Now these food chains are so close to each other, you can smell the fat. Every street corner there today has a pizza take-out business. Before it was pubs. Everyone is drinking colas etc. now. The population is exercising less. I used to take public transportation or bicycle to my work about 6 km. one way. Now cheap Asian vehicles are available to almost everyone at affordable prices.

70% Americans are overweight and 1/3 obese. The epidemic has been spreading overseas for over 20 years. IMHO the desire to improve the bottom line yearly has caused these problems. People need to be educated on the dangers of putting junk food in their mouth.

Another reason why so many more people are overweight is the mix of ethnic groups in families.

Hey Aussie, when will you be in DK?I completely agree with you, I will probably be in DK next week. So far Germany has been a disappointment, after several enjoyable visits, this place has gone south. As far as Americans being overweight, yes its true, but Germans are HUGE, many Aussies are not bronzed surfers as well. Almost all the food I have seen in Germany is pretty much crap, Maccas are all over, kebab shops and other not so healthy eats. I went to three non sex saunas around Cologne and Dusseldorf and only saw small elephants.

Bango Cheito
06-27-10, 20:37
It definitely doesn't hurt.... since the beginning of the year I have been on the warpath regarding my personal appearance... weight, taking care of my hair, clothes etc... and BOY you sure notice the difference in looks...

the BIG difference is that in the USA I'm just not interested BACK anymore... in Colombia I am :P

ThatGuy865
06-28-10, 05:20
It definitely doesn't hurt.... since the beginning of the year I have been on the warpath regarding my personal appearance... weight, taking care of my hair, clothes etc... and BOY you sure notice the difference in looks...

the BIG difference is that in the USA I'm just not interested BACK anymore... in Colombia I am :PI was in Medellin late last year and there were some chubbsters there as well. It won't be long. As people in all these places earn more and goods become more affordable to the avg person. Cheap cars will come, so they don't have to walk as much. A lot of businesses didn't want to go into Columbia because of the violence and drug wars but as crime rates go down, businesses will come. McDonalds and Domino's will spring up in the poorer neighborhoods. Not just poblado and then everyone will have a chance to get fat. Columbians already like beef, its only a matter of time. Then the woman's movement comes next. To rearrange the attitude. Its all coming to a theater near you. As they say.

CherchezFemme
06-28-10, 15:30
It definitely doesn't hurt.... since the beginning of the year I have been on the warpath regarding my personal appearance... weight, taking care of my hair, clothes etc... and BOY you sure notice the difference in looks...

the BIG difference is that in the USA I'm just not interested BACK anymore... in Colombia I am :P

Maybe once we reach goals we're happy with, we can post before and afters, eh?

And I need to make it to Colombia sooner rather than later...

Bango Cheito
06-28-10, 17:17
I was in Medellin late last year and there were some chubbsters there as well. It won't be long. As people in all these places earn more and goods become more affordable to the avg person. Cheap cars will come, so they don't have to walk as much. A lot of businesses didn't want to go into Columbia because of the violence and drug wars but as crime rates go down, businesses will come. McDonalds and Domino's will spring up in the poorer neighborhoods. Not just poblado and then everyone will have a chance to get fat. Columbians already like beef, its only a matter of time. Then the woman's movement comes next. To rearrange the attitude. Its all coming to a theater near you. As they say.

Nothing's wrong with eating beef, IN Colombia. But yeah if people eat more and more processed food, they WILL get fatter and fatter, no doubt... depends on how people's consciousness is.... I frankly don't see it out of the richer neighborhoods in Colombia, the mentality is too different... it's some serious body culture in those places, it's a bit like ancient Sparta..

ThatGuy865
06-29-10, 01:32
Nothing's wrong with eating beef, IN Colombia. But yeah if people eat more and more processed food, they WILL get fatter and fatter, no doubt... depends on how people's consciousness is.... I frankly don't see it out of the richer neighborhoods in Colombia, the mentality is too different... it's some serious body culture in those places, it's a bit like ancient Sparta..You have to be kidding me. While we were there we couldn't find a decent gym. They are almost non existence there. There maybe like one in Medellin period. Decent. Columbians are nothing compared to like Brazilians who now if you want to talk a body culture. Now you're talking. But Columbia. The people are only thin because of poverty and lack of transportation. So they walk everywhere and do manual labor. Once they prosper and business grows. Their bodies will grow right along with it. Especially when you look at their traditional meals. They eat damn hearty.

Bango Cheito
06-29-10, 21:08
You have to be kidding me. While we were there we couldn't find a decent gym. They are almost non existence there. There maybe like one in Medellin period. Decent. Columbians are nothing compared to like Brazilians who now if you want to talk a body culture. Now you're talking. But Columbia. The people are only thin because of poverty and lack of transportation. So they walk everywhere and do manual labor. Once they prosper and business grows. Their bodies will grow right along with it. Especially when you look at their traditional meals. They eat damn hearty.

Americans are fat because they eat a lot of processed shit and shit full of chemicals. It's not that easy to get fat on natural foods. In some parts of Colombia they eat too much starch and their bodies wind up looking starchy :P

And who needs a gym? Get on a bicycle and ride! Do some yoga and some chin ups and push ups and stretches! Gyms are fake ass shit!

Bimbo Boy
06-29-10, 22:11
Americans are fat because they eat a lot of processed shit and shit full of chemicals. It's not that easy to get fat on natural foods. In some parts of Colombia they eat too much starch and their bodies wind up looking starchy :P

And who needs a gym? Get on a bicycle and ride! Do some yoga and some chin ups and push ups and stretches! Gyms are fake ass shit!
I agree with processed food and lack of exercise.
Another of the causes of fat in the USA is meat with hormones, which is forbidden in Europe. I lived as an expat in the USA, and immediately started taking weight. When I stopped eating meat (on the advice of other expats there), I immediately lost weight.
Another factor is the constant deluge of advertisements for food. When one opens the TV there is propaganda for food nearly non stop, and it makes you hungry.
Regards
B.B

Crazy Jim Wood
06-29-10, 22:49
...Living here (Manhattan) does have its upside, even though some of you NASTY, SCABBY, AIDS-coated 10 CENT HO BAGS have had the nerve to ask me "Why do you live THERE? Why in THAT building? Why don't you live in a penthouse? Why don't you drive a Jaguar? Why is your sausage only 6 inches? I want at least 9 inches long...
You STUPID, STUPID, SILLY, CHILDISH, MIND-F*CKING WOMEN WITH A GENITAL WART FOR A BRAIN, this is NOT Sex and the City! Having things does not make you happy! Not every guy is Mr. Big! You are not going to marry Derek Jeter or a European soccer star ! ...
I agree with you that it is all Obama's fault, but I must say, having things DOES make you happy! Take for example my 9-inch lady killer, it has not brought me eternal and unending happiness, but it has brought me and many women small 15-minute increments of the most intense pleasure at happily frequent intervals! Up to 5 times a day? But it gives with one hand and takes to the other intense intervals of pleasure followed by years of pain and misery trying to deal with the women and endless complaints pay for all the kids and the other baggage that comes with 9-inch-cocks...

Dickhead
06-29-10, 23:14
In my case it is not my dick they love; it is my pile driving ass. And here once again the AW fall short. When they are saying "Stop! Stop! My pussy is sore!" the Latinas are grabbing my ass and yelling "¡Cojeme fuerte, Toro! ¡Fuerte fuerte FUERTE! Ay mi amorrrr"

Latinas you grab them by the hair and you look them straight in the eye and you fuck them so hard their eyes roll back in their heads. You fuck them like they stole your lunch money. I love how they will put their hands up over their heads in a gesture of utter submission. BTW if you pin their arms down with your forearm you still have one hand free to yank on their hair.

I used to fuck this gal from Paraguay who was part Chinese. Long black shiny hair down to her ass (of course there are thousands or millions of women here like that), hard, muscular body (boxing was her hobby). She would wind all her hair up on top of her head, clasp her hands and bow (the wai), and then suck me off. Then she would suck off my housemate and any house guests that happened to be around. The great thing is I could still fuck her any time I wanted to. I could call her right now and she would be here in an hour. But with so many *****houses in my immediate neighborhood, I have no need to wait an hour.

And Latina women never say, "Can we just cuddle right now? I really just need to be held." They need to be fucked. Afterwards they will cuddle but to them, cuddling without fucking is just retarded.

Crazy Jim Wood
06-29-10, 23:23
...Latinas you grab them by the hair and you look them straight in the eye and you fuck them so hard their eyes roll back in their heads. You fuck them like they stole your lunch money...
Yeah I'm fucking this crazy latina she has the biggest knockers-to-little-ass ratio I have ever seen, I swear she is shaped like a top, she had a hourglass waist but i went and got her preggo ruined that oh well she is still hot as fuck... I thought being preggo would slow her down but NOOOO she is worse now she grinds her head back in my face spoils my concentration robs me of orgasm again and again just at right (wrong) moment so I have to cock my head to the side where she can't get me she reaches back to grab my head to pull it around it so I have to cock it way over to the side she must be doing ti on purpose to prolong her pleasure or she reaches an arm up to push herself from the headboard and start rocking which throws me off my game so I gotta drag her into middle of the bed where she can't reach the bedboard and now I'm getting a repetitive stress injury I got this crick in my neck takes like two days to go away... I'm going to have to start tying her ass up.

Dickhead
06-29-10, 23:38
Yeah, well, the one I nail the hardest is exactly perfectly proportioned to where tits = ass within a tolerance of two standard deviations. I gave her a T-shirt that says "Warning: Dangerous Curves Ahead" except I told her it said "Save The Harp Seals." But we are not talking big knockers here. We are talking 34-24-34 with skin the color of toasted honey. Also her pussy gushes with a mixture of honey and cinnamon, perhaps a touch of clove.

Latina women do get pregnant very easily, and in fact have many schemes to do so, and spend a lot of time thinking about how to get pregnant and by whom. But, it ain't gonna be by me so I just blow load after load after load into them with no consequences whatsoever.

AW thinks, "Oh good; he didn't come so now I won't have that stuff dripping out of me all day long." Latina thinks, "He didn't come and so I did something wrong and now he will go find someone else." So if you have good control, you can then torture the Latina by withholding the leche. This is a lot of fun. Of course, you don't withhold it forever!

DJ FourMoney
06-30-10, 02:55
Yeah, well, the one I nail the hardest is exactly perfectly proportioned to where tits = ass within a tolerance of two standard deviations. I gave her a T-shirt that says "Warning: Dangerous Curves Ahead" except I told her it said "Save The Harp Seals." But we are not talking big knockers here. We are talking 34-24-34 with skin the color of toasted honey. Also her pussy gushes with a mixture of honey and cinnamon, perhaps a touch of clove.

Latina women do get pregnant very easily, and in fact have many schemes to do so, and spend a lot of time thinking about how to get pregnant and by whom. But, it ain't gonna be by me so I just blow load after load after load into them with no consequences whatsoever.

AW thinks, "Oh good; he didn't come so now I won't have that stuff dripping out of me all day long." Latina thinks, "He didn't come and so I did something wrong and now he will go find someone else." So if you have good control, you can then torture the Latina by withholding the leche. This is a lot of fun. Of course, you don't withhold it forever!

I think its safe to say, outside of America that sex is not a bad thing. In other cultures sex is just not for reproduction, its for entertainment!

I don't hear the headache/cuddle stories coming out of many men that have experienced dating Eastern European, South American, Asian or even Western European Women (Brits not withstanding), it just doesn't happen.

It seems to me the goals of these women are the following -

1) Cater To/Please My Husband/Boyfriend or he'll go somewhere else

2) Family is extremely important, I will not have a child without a husband or committed boyfriend.

3) Sex happens before, during and after pregnancy

I do see trends with Western European women that get weired it out about discussions of children too soon. This was a recent subject on another forum and it was brought up by a late 30's, early 40's German lady. What I find however is the trend to delay child birth until your well into your 30's when you feel you can handle it financially and mentally. Just hear me out, I know children are not a favorite subject around here, but its obvious some men here are in their late 20, 30's or early 40's and desire to have children. I think the ONLY reason to get married is if you want to have children and nothing else. I think you could honestly get away with a series of long term girlfriends and call it good if you don't wanna have kids.

Anyway, this quest for individualism has slowed child birth so badly in Western Europe its made immigration a front burner issue, changed laws to encourage child birth and god knows what else. Congrats Crazy Jim however on your impending birth. In America we have so much teenage pregnancy and immigrants having kids its just not an issue here.

Back on topic slightly -

The issue here is that AW think, you'll take whatever they give you because the likelihood of you getting it some place else is very low, or so they think. That or they think another loser is around the corner waiting to replace your arse so effectively dick becomes fungible. Well I argue Pussy in general is fungible (Thanks Dickhead!), its easy for American men to replace your ass with something else..... Which is why they boo Eastern European Women, Asian Women and South American Women as desperate puppets and most West Europeans as a notch below them.

AW believe with every part of their being that they are the best thing for American men and American men in droves believe it. You can say what you want about services like A Foreign Affair but as the owner points out.

"It doesn't matter how many times we have done this. We have been doing this for 15 years and for every 10 or 15 that come to our seminars, watch our web show or Monday call-in shows, only 1-2 end up going on a tour." "We have thousands of testimonials, engagements, marriages and guys still won't get on that plane and go..."

This proves that no matter how much you peddle Colombian women, Chinese Women, Russian/Ukraine Women, whatever, too many American men feel there's something wrong with you if you can't strike gold at home.

ThatGuy is convinced there's an American Women for every Single American guy, he just need to find some self-confidence, dress better, loose some weight and learn how to talk to ladies.

While I'll keep saying, no matter how much money you got, how suave you are, even those guys run into problems and if they tell you that they have a different woman in their bed every night, they are LYING.

I have just enough self-confidence, I'm not fat, I don't look my age and I know how to talk to women, I do get laid every now and again.

For the rest of us Beta types, people like Thatguy still say its OUR problem, not the women involved. He explains that all women everywhere are the same and that because my ass is broke and live at home, that's the basic hold up.

How bitches know I live at home is beyond me, its not written on my forehead. I'm kidding, but they can't know, I tell them if they ask. Is it the kiss of death, it could be. But not everybody knows this, the result is -

1) Fat Women
2) Fat Single Mothers
3) Over The Hill Single Women

Some 40 year old woman with 3 kids calling me a looser for bashing AW and saying Europeans or South Americans are marked improvement. Yes they are I have proof! Another 30something single mother who ran into some fiscal issues and had to move back in with moms. Had the nerve to call me looser for living at home, isn't that hypocrisy?

What Thatguy FAILS to understand is that in America, in my neck of the woods, most of the women available to me are mid to late 30's with children. My buddy just married such a woman a few years ago, he was just tired of being single. He was fanatical about dick suckers, so I suppose she really could polish a trailer hitch. She had 3 kids from a previous relationship, is this what Thatguy wants for me?

AW single without children profiles are loaded with pre-qualifiers I don't meet.

In Europe (even South America) I can safely date, 10-12-15 years younger than my age and there isn't any issue. This is ideal, I want to have children, I want to be a first time parent.

If another idiot tells me I should only focus on AW I'm going to pimp slap them, its not reality, its a falsehood, just because other American Guys marry American Women doesn't mean its correct. It just means its convenient and non-controversial, that's why American guys do it and for that reason ONLY.

Dickhead
06-30-10, 03:04
I think you are the only one who wants to have children. A bunch of others don't want to use rubbers and so are going to have children, but that is a different thing.

Anyway you only think you want to have children. Once you have them you won't want them.

DJ FourMoney
06-30-10, 03:17
i think you are the only one who wants to have children. a bunch of others don't want to use rubbers and so are going to have children, but that is a different thing.

anyway you only think you want to have children. once you have them you won't want them.

sure i would... i love children, i don't love other people's children, but i will love mine, because they are mine.

actually most of the guys that post in this thread don't wanna get married, so of course they don't wanna have kids. but i'm not the only one in this thread.

besides your the guy that said i should consider single mothers that don't want to have any more kids because i would have missed all the [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) changing and all that. i suppose getting kids already as toddlers would kinda make sense. but those aren't my kids and no jigging with court papers will make that so, that's not my blood.

Nyc Expat
06-30-10, 03:19
NBC Nightly News reported obesity increases in almost every state. Besides AW and AM this includes children too.

Quote "Adult obesity rates increased in 28 states in the past year, and declined only in the District of Columbia (D.C.), according to F as in Fat: How Obesity Threatens America's Future 2010, a report from the Trust for America's Health (TFAH) and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF). More than two-thirds of states (38) have adult obesity rates above 25 percent. In 1991, no state had an obesity rate above 20 percent" Unquote.

The link attached will give you more information on each individual state.
http://healthyamericans.org/reports/obesity2010/

DJ FourMoney
06-30-10, 03:22
NBC Nightly News reported obesity increases in almost every state. Besides AW and AM this includes children too.

Quote "Adult obesity rates increased in 28 states in the past year, and declined only in the District of Columbia (D.C.), according to F as in Fat: How Obesity Threatens America's Future 2010, a report from the Trust for America's Health (TFAH) and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF). More than two-thirds of states (38) have adult obesity rates above 25 percent. In 1991, no state had an obesity rate above 20 percent" Unquote.

The link attached will give you more information on each individual state.
http://healthyamericans.org/reports/obesity2010/

This is true but you can still find thin women in America, it might only be harder in rural America. My problem with thin women is they have entitlement issues...

Nyc Expat
06-30-10, 03:26
This is true but you can still find thin women in America, it might only be harder in rural America. My problem with thin women is they have entitlement issues...

If an AW is fit, slim, well shaped, not overweight, there is probably a high maintenance price tag attached.

Crazy Jim Wood
06-30-10, 03:33
If an AW is fit, slim, well shaped, not overweight, there is probably a high maintenance price tag attached.
No, not always true. There are plenty of thin women with low self esteem who are easy to pickup and don't cost that much.

Goga Fung
06-30-10, 04:04
And who needs a gym? Get on a bicycle and ride! Do some yoga and some chin ups and push ups and stretches! Gyms are fake ass shit!Yeah its not about the gyms. And not even fat or not fat food. Long time ago I had a Slovak girlfriend(it was in Czech Republic). Her body was perfect. I asked here what does she do for that, going to gym a lot? She said she never goes to gym. She just likes sex and it keeps her in shape. At the same time she loved fat full of cholesterol Czech food and drank lots of wine.

USA probably has the most of weight loss advertisements, foods, medicines, gyms, weight loss classes, innovative devices, etc.. But it is still getting fatter and fatter, one of the leading(second?) country in the world. So gyms have nothing to do with overweight people.

Dickhead
06-30-10, 04:08
Consider women with eating disorders. Bulimic women have no gag reflex and therefore give great head. Anorexic women are cheap dates but have issues with CIM as it could contain calories.

ThatGuy865
06-30-10, 04:50
Dj four. You got me all wrong. I don't think there is an AW out there for every AM. And I don't say everyone should date AW.

What I say is if you like South Amer Women fine. Eastern European. Fine. But that doesn't make AW bad. They are just not your cup of tea. If you need a woman to be easy to obtain. So be it.

But don't say AM who do like AW have a problem or don't know what they are missing. As I have said before, plenty of guys have been in the military, served all over the world. Slept with women from all of these locations. But then come back and marry AW. So its not like they don't know whats out there. They know and don't care. They like AW.

There's a lot to be said, having someone who can understand where you're coming from. They catch the little nuances of your sayings, jokes. These are things that you lose in translations with a foreigners. Not all men choice women ONLY because they are good in bed. Personality accounts for a lot.

I think a lot of the guys who have issues with AW are guys who put Sex at the top of their list for a good relationship. And thats fine. But not all men have that as their #1. And thats where I believe those who can't stand AW and those who can differ.

Just because you like vanila it doesn't mean chocolate has to be bad.

TG. Ya dig

Australiasucks
06-30-10, 05:29
Let me just say Western European=American/Anglo/Aussie women, pretty much sums it up. I do not see a huge difference between them and women in English speaking countries. American girls idolize big shots and so do European women. Aussies are no different in that regard either. Eastern Europeans are still hot though but for some reason, I only started running into some in the last few days. A gorgeous Romanian, and finally a Russian. But its still the same, money, good looks, good prospects and you get the girl. And this is the case everywhere these days in this global economy. Asian women still seem to keep their femininity but that will change too as those Asian countries come up to par or surpass the West, the latter being more likely.

DJ FourMoney
06-30-10, 07:12
No, not always true. There are plenty of thin women with low self esteem who are easy to pickup and don't cost that much.

You mean the Mousey types? Strung out on some controlled substance? Those are quite common in rural areas as well considering not much else to do but tipping cattle and running through corn fields.

Yes low self-esteem as well, missing teeth from meth use, yep they are skinny alright.

Out of 100 or so profiles, I might fine ONE women under 30 willing to go down to 40 for a "mate" and usually she's not all that thin and childless. But then I need to have a college education, etc, etc, etc.

Crazy Jim Wood
06-30-10, 11:44
Every girl in a strip club has low self esteem, many are very good looking, not all do meth, not all are expensive, some even have not had babies yet. Hang out in enough strip clubs long enough you will find the perfect woman and also enjoy the search. I've pulled a few women from strip clubs, never paid any of them. Some were head cases, some were very nice. College education? That is hard to find in a stripper. But what the fuck for? College does not improve performance in bed. Highly overrated...
Oh, you probably don't want to run through cornfields.

You mean the Mousey types? Strung out on some controlled substance? Those are quite common in rural areas as well considering not much else to do but tipping cattle and running through corn fields.

Yes low self-esteem as well, missing teeth from meth use, yep they are skinny alright.

Out of 100 or so profiles, I might fine ONE women under 30 willing to go down to 40 for a "mate" and usually she's not all that thin and childless. But then I need to have a college education, etc, etc, etc.

Helpmann
06-30-10, 15:18
...34-24-34 with skin the color of toasted honey. Also her pussy gushes with a mixture of honey and cinnamon, perhaps a touch of clove.That sounds like my girlfriend!

-Helpmann :)

Australiasucks
06-30-10, 16:49
If an AW is fit, slim, well shaped, not overweight, there is probably a high maintenance price tag attached.Really, just met an American tourist that fits the physical description, but it turns out she is a lot friendlier than most women I have met towards an English speaking bloke like myself. Many people I have run into just do not speak English which makes breaking the ice a lot harder.

Member #2041
06-30-10, 16:52
Consider women with eating disorders. Bulimic women have no gag reflex and therefore give great head. Anorexic women are cheap dates but have issues with CIM as it could contain calories.
Possibly the greatest post in the history of this forum!

CherchezFemme
06-30-10, 18:39
I do see trends with Western European women that get weired it out about discussions of children too soon...What I find however is the trend to delay child birth until your well into your 30's when you feel you can handle it financially and mentally. .

You ever see the movie Idiocracy? Its pretty good, there are some great LOL moments. Anyway, there's a part where Clevon the redneck impregnates all the girls in the trailer park, and his football star son does the same to the cheerleaders, and Upgraydde the pimp impregnates all his hos.

This is contrasted with a stereotypical well-to-do white couple, who say things like "Its just not responsible to have children in today's market". They keep waiting, they get older, the husband's sperm count drops, and eventually the husband dies from masturbating too hard to provide samples for artificial insemination. The widow then says that she has frozen some of her eggs, for when "the right man" comes along (Sound familiar?)

The results being that in 500 years, everyone's an idiot.

IMO in Europe, the results will be everyone's a Muslim. In North America, I don't know what the results will be but anyway those are topics for another website.

Australiasucks
06-30-10, 18:58
NBC Nightly News reported obesity increases in almost every state. Besides AW and AM this includes children too.

Quote "Adult obesity rates increased in 28 states in the past year, and declined only in the District of Columbia (D.C.), according to F as in Fat: How Obesity Threatens America's Future 2010, a report from the Trust for America's Health (TFAH) and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF). More than two-thirds of states (38) have adult obesity rates above 25 percent. In 1991, no state had an obesity rate above 20 percent" Unquote.

The link attached will give you more information on each individual state.
http://healthyamericans.org/reports/obesity2010/Well Europe is not much better these days either, Germany, the most populous Western European country is the fattest country in Europe:

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2460579,00.html

Britain comes in close. My own country unfortunately is also the same these days. Its not just an American problem.

Nyc Expat
06-30-10, 20:47
Many people I have run into just do not speak English which makes breaking the ice a lot harder.

While in Germany, France, Switzerland and Austria you will not find many women willing to talk to you in English. Visit The Netherlands and Scandinavia to find women whom enjoy speaking English. BTW, Get your butt to Copenhagen now for the Roskilde Festival July 1-4.

CherchezFemme
06-30-10, 21:57
I think you are the only one who wants to have children. A bunch of others don't want to use rubbers and so are going to have children, but that is a different thing.
Anyway you only think you want to have children. Once you have them you won't want them.

I want to have kids too. I want to have descendants and spread my seed. I just want to have them with a decent woman who is in her 20s and is going to be a good mommy.

I need a younger woman because of her energy (I'll prob be in my 40s) and because the younger the woman is when she has kids, the better she'll hold on to her looks and figure.

Being an ex-teacher I've 1000s of students from 11-18 so I have a pretty good idea of what to expect and I'd like to think I'll be a good father.

Dickhead
06-30-10, 22:36
I think if you start talking about a guy over 40 having kids, it's a bit unfair to the kid. OK maybe now it is more like 45 or so. But my dad was 42 and he just did not have the energy to deal with the teenage shit when he was by then in his late 50s. Around 30 is the right time to have kids, from what I have seen. Under 20 and over 40, not so much.

Dickhead
06-30-10, 22:39
Another thing about having kids, nobody wants to talk about it, but it really does sorta ruin the pussy. Yeah you can have the tightening up procedure done but still the lips droop and so forth. One solution to this is instead of getting your wife pregnant, get the Paraguayan maid pregnant. That way none of it is really your problem.

CherchezFemme
06-30-10, 23:15
I think if you start talking about a guy over 40 having kids, it's a bit unfair to the kid. OK maybe now it is more like 45 or so. But my dad was 42 and he just did not have the energy to deal with the teenage shit when he was by then in his late 50s. Around 30 is the right time to have kids, from what I have seen. Under 20 and over 40, not so much.

You're scaring me man!

But listen, I know its time to get serious, I've known for a year or two now. In fact, in the last 2 yrs, 3 guys I know who were/are serious ladies men have tied the knot - we're all 36 yo btw.

At this point, of all my close friends only 2 are not married. I would also include most of my friends from HS in there. One is successful and good looking and dates hot russian bitches, and has started commenting to me how its kinda weird we're the only 2 not hitched yet. His 29 yo old GF now wants to marry him b/c she desperately wants a child(they had a huge fight Sat night about that very issue) but he wants a girl with bigger boobs lol and he wants to bang more women. He's a late bloomer like me. I lost my virginity at 20, he at 21. Thing is is that his girl is hot so its tough for him to break it off w/out a backup in place.

The other friend lives in a small mountain town, 1/2 an hour away from a small city in Italy, so the pickings are real slim. He's desperately shy, so I'm not sure how the hell he's ever going to get married. He probably needs a woman to make all the moves.

I'm trying to get him to come to Prague with me b/c I think he's still a virgin - even though we're tight and I love him like a brother, I've never asked and I never will since I know how shy he is.

Anyway Dickhead, what you're saying is why I KNOW the woman has to be younger than me.

I know time is running out for me with American women. When I go back to college next year will probably be my last good opportunity to meet a wifey and live the stereotypical american lifestyle. After that it'll have to be South America or Eastern Europe.

CherchezFemme
06-30-10, 23:22
Dickhead, OOC how many kids do you have? if its too personal a question to answer, I understand.

Dickhead
06-30-10, 23:55
That number would be zero as I had myself fixed prior to engaging in matrimony for the first and only time. But I lost my virginity at 13 and when I was 15 I took off to México with my 27 year old neighbor who was kind of pretty much married at the time. In my case I knew from when I was about 8 years old that I did not want kids. Wifey had a hereditary disease in her family, Huntington's, so that made for a handy excuse, but was not really the reason. I thought I knew of one happy marriage among my friends but now they are in counseling and considering divorce.

Anyway no more wives or girlfriends for me. Hookers can become friends after a while so what is the point? I consider myself happily divorced and my ex is a good person but I seldom think of her any more and never when I am fucking nubile Latina hookers.

DJ FourMoney
07-01-10, 05:26
Every girl in a strip club has low self esteem, many are very good looking, not all do meth, not all are expensive, some even have not had babies yet. Hang out in enough strip clubs long enough you will find the perfect woman and also enjoy the search. I've pulled a few women from strip clubs, never paid any of them. Some were head cases, some were very nice. College education? That is hard to find in a stripper. But what the fuck for? College does not improve performance in bed. Highly overrated...
Oh, you probably don't want to run through cornfields.

Cornfields likely not...lol

I've thought Strippers were a tough nut to crack. 1) you do have to spend many hours in there to gain trust and maybe respect. 2) the pay off might be okay, but we have low grade strippers here. The only one I have seen lately is the GF of a guy I met at washing the car one day about two or three years ago. He happens to be one of the managers though and she's actually a porn star. I forget her name.

Anyway, even she wasn't without problems according to him, but the pussy was fantastic so it was worth the trouble. I haven't talked to him lately but I'm fairly sure they are still together.

DJ FourMoney
07-01-10, 05:38
You ever see the movie Idiocracy? Its pretty good, there are some great LOL moments. Anyway, there's a part where Clevon the redneck impregnates all the girls in the trailer park, and his football star son does the same to the cheerleaders, and Upgraydde the pimp impregnates all his hos.

This is contrasted with a stereotypical well-to-do white couple, who say things like "Its just not responsible to have children in today's market". They keep waiting, they get older, the husband's sperm count drops, and eventually the husband dies from masturbating too hard to provide samples for artificial insemination. The widow then says that she has frozen some of her eggs, for when "the right man" comes along (Sound familiar?)

The results being that in 500 years, everyone's an idiot.

IMO in Europe, the results will be everyone's a Muslim. In North America, I don't know what the results will be but anyway those are topics for another website.

I don't know there's quite a bit of backlash especially in Holland, UK, Switzerland and France. Not to generalize but they seem not to want to assimilate into Western Culture. I mean almost every where they are, you start hearing reports of honor killings and arranged marriages, you know shit that just don't jive in "modern" society.

They aren't involved in interracial relationships. Only the men are, seems they are allowed. But women, no way and families tend to be very protective. I say that kind of pussy is way too much trouble and not even that hot in most cases.

If the Muslims take over Europe, it will be Europeans own fault. As I said individualism has override child birth and parenting. By the time women are finished with higher education and start their careers they are in the mid 20's. By the time they might be in a position to consider somebody serious, they are just about 30, but then there are hardly any men that want to have a family. So it becomes a game of wait and see or every 1-2 years trade in boyfriend for one that might want children. Soon your in your late 30's still holding on. If you haven't gone down the frozen egg road, then you're still waiting. Those are the women that want children.. The ones that don't are wishy washy about it because they know beyond 30 that hurts their chances with single men if they just say "I don't want children".

But anyway, its the low birth rate that has the Governments concerned and looking towards immigration for a sort of short term fix for a long term problem.

The reality is, there will be only a few countries still be majority Caucasian by 2050.

DJ FourMoney
07-01-10, 05:45
I want to have kids too. I want to have descendants and spread my seed. I just want to have them with a decent woman who is in her 20s and is going to be a good mommy.

I need a younger woman because of her energy (I'll prob be in my 40s) and because the younger the woman is when she has kids, the better she'll hold on to her looks and figure.

Being an ex-teacher I've 1000s of students from 11-18 so I have a pretty good idea of what to expect and I'd like to think I'll be a good father.

That shouldn't be your own concern, rates of birth defects goes WAY up south of 30 years old and peak around 40 years old. I recently pointed that out and I got the obligatory "I got friends all over 40 that have had healthy children". Do you wanna cookie? All I know like you I'm sure it would suck to wait all this time to find somebody your compatible with, try to have your first child only for them to have some problem, SIDS or worst Downs Syndrome.

All these things increase dramatically after age 35 according to the March of Dimes.

So like you I'm focused on mid to late 20's, early 30's MAX and I have to go to South America or Eastern Europe to get what I want. I don't like Asian women enough to go much further.

DJ FourMoney
07-01-10, 05:51
You're scaring me man!

But listen, I know its time to get serious, I've known for a year or two now. In fact, in the last 2 yrs, 3 guys I know who were/are serious ladies men have tied the knot - we're all 36 yo btw.

At this point, of all my close friends only 2 are not married. I would also include most of my friends from HS in there. One is successful and good looking and dates hot russian bitches, and has started commenting to me how its kinda weird we're the only 2 not hitched yet. His 29 yo old GF now wants to marry him b/c she desperately wants a child(they had a huge fight Sat night about that very issue) but he wants a girl with bigger boobs lol and he wants to bang more women. He's a late bloomer like me. I lost my virginity at 20, he at 21. Thing is is that his girl is hot so its tough for him to break it off w/out a backup in place.

The other friend lives in a small mountain town, 1/2 an hour away from a small city in Italy, so the pickings are real slim. He's desperately shy, so I'm not sure how the hell he's ever going to get married. He probably needs a woman to make all the moves.

I'm trying to get him to come to Prague with me b/c I think he's still a virgin - even though we're tight and I love him like a brother, I've never asked and I never will since I know how shy he is.

Anyway Dickhead, what you're saying is why I KNOW the woman has to be younger than me.

I know time is running out for me with American women. When I go back to college next year will probably be my last good opportunity to meet a wifey and live the stereotypical american lifestyle. After that it'll have to be South America or Eastern Europe.

We're all living much longer and in most cases much better condition than generations before. I see many late 30's and 40something males holding toddlers and its not their grand children. I see the same aged men dropping off kids at grade school. I think its fairly normal now and according to a few sources a continuing tread, people are just waiting longer to get married and start having a family, this is especially true for college educated couples.

Where this is a problem for Western Europe because it leads to lower birth rates, here we have so much teenage pregnancy and immigrants having kids, it just doesn't matter.

Crazy Jim Wood
07-01-10, 05:52
...I've thought Strippers were a tough nut to crack. 1) you do have to spend many hours in there to gain trust and maybe respect... the pussy was fantastic so it was worth the trouble...
Strippers are same as any other women, just easier to approach. Figure 1 out of 10 women will say yes. If you talked to 10 women in the mall, even if 1 was predisposed to like you, they would all think you're a psycho because hitting women up in the mall is kind of awkward. If you talk to 10 strippers, they would all be happy to talk cuz they want a tip. So it is a lot easier to talk to 10 strippers to find 1 who likes you than it is to talk to 10 civilians. You see one you like talk a little get a lap dance see if you click, ask her if she dates, if she doesn't, move on, you're back 15 minutes and $5. I saw one I liked the other day, got one hell of a lap dance, she was really grinding didn't seem to care about the time at all. But I was heading out of town on business, haven't been back in 2 weeks, have to go look her up.


...The reality is, there will be only a few countries still be majority Caucasian by 2050.
The Americas used to be all Amerindian, now, you can't find a pureblooded Amerinidain, they're all part white. Same for so-called blacks in the Americas. They're all part white. I expect it is same in Oceana. So the world today is a lot whiter than it was 400 years ago.

DJ FourMoney
07-01-10, 06:10
At this point, of all my close friends only 2 are not married. I would also include most of my friends from HS in there. One is successful and good looking and dates hot russian bitches, and has started commenting to me how its kinda weird we're the only 2 not hitched yet. His 29 yo old GF now wants to marry him b/c she desperately wants a child(they had a huge fight Sat night about that very issue) but he wants a girl with bigger boobs lol and he wants to bang more women. He's a late bloomer like me. I lost my virginity at 20, he at 21. Thing is is that his girl is hot so its tough for him to break it off w/out a backup in place.

I know time is running out for me with American women. When I go back to college next year will probably be my last good opportunity to meet a wifey and live the stereotypical american lifestyle. After that it'll have to be South America or Eastern Europe.

Two things -

Unless he meets some girl that's looking to be a model, actress or sponsorship, almost every single Slavic girl is going to want to have kids and at a fairly early age. Its just their culture, they are considered over the hill in their mid to late 20's! If your not married and have kids by 30, many consider you a lost cause! For Western Men having lived in a post NOW world, its unusual for women so young to be ready to have deeply committed relationships and children. So I would suggest to him if he's not ready, let her go and find somebody that she want to have kids with, its only fair.

Why deal with the drama (battles)?

Time for me has ran out... The women over 35 interested in me is double or triple of the women under 30 are interested in me. I might be selling my self a bit short, but as I said if a woman puts up a requirement of Professional and College Educated on her profile, why should I bother her? I know I don't meet those standards.

Women outside of North America just don't have those same demands. The only women that don't share that are single mothers but even then that's moderated by how good they look.

So its Eastern Europe or South America or Bust! Eastern Europe has a slight edge and I share your friends desire to find a Slavic girl with ample bosom. Most tend to be model skinny which is good, but seriously lacking in derriere and boobs department. I think I would settle for a decent B cup or small C cup which on a really thin girl looks bigger than it is. Latinas can suffer from this as well, though a bit rare.

The only requirement I have actually is that she speak at least conversational English. All the other stuff is a dime a dozen (good looks, thin bodies, etc, etc.)

DJ FourMoney
07-01-10, 06:15
Strippers are same as any other women, just easier to approach. Figure 1 out of 10 women will say yes. If you talked to 10 women in the mall, even if 1 was predisposed to like you, they would all think you're a psycho because hitting women up in the mall is kind of awkward. If you talk to 10 strippers, they would all be happy to talk cuz they want a tip. So it is a lot easier to talk to 10 strippers to find 1 who likes you than it is to talk to 10 civilians. You see one you like talk a little get a lap dance see if you click, ask her if she dates, if she doesn't, move on, you're back 15 minutes and $5. I saw one I liked the other day, got one hell of a lap dance, she was really grinding didn't seem to care about the time at all. But I was heading out of town on business, haven't been back in 2 weeks, have to go look her up.


The Americas used to be all Amerindian, now, you can't find a pureblooded Amerinidain, they're all part white. Same for so-called blacks in the Americas. They're all part white. I expect it is same in Oceana. So the world today is a lot whiter than it was 400 years ago.

Actually I'm all Black, some Indian and a tiny bit of Chinese... My aunt Marlyn is White however (by marriage), so is my cousin Bernadette who's British (cousin by marriage).

Jon32
07-01-10, 13:45
If the Muslims take over Europe, it will be Europeans own fault.


The reality is, there will be only a few countries still be majority Caucasian by 2050.


In the future everyone will either be Chinese or Indian and of muslim religion. That's like 4billion of the world population right there.

Don't know how other people feel about that, but if the muslims 'invade' Europe I would hate it. Just not my culture and I don't relate with it at all.

Power by numbers, can't do anything to stop 67% of the world population fucking & mixing with the other 30% of which will end up diluted and bred out.

Capt Ajax
07-01-10, 15:05
Here's a 54+ yr old AW demanding no less than $250 for an hour of her time. What do you fellas think, is she worth it? She's not worth it IMHO.

Australiasucks
07-01-10, 15:52
Here's a 54+ yr old AW demanding no less than $250 for an hour of her time. What do you fellas think, is she worth it? She's not worth it IMHO.I could pick up something better in Kings Cross for 50AUD. $250 for that?

WTF.

CherchezFemme
07-01-10, 16:52
Looks like trailer trash to me.

She looks like the kind of girl who used to blow the roadies to get to go backstage at Poison/Bon Jovi/ Def Leppard/Whitesnake concerts.

Probably can suck a mean dick. Too bad I wouldn't let her near it.

Goga Fung
07-01-10, 18:02
Here's a 54+ yr old AW demanding no less than $250 for an hour of her time. What do you fellas think, is she worth it? She's not worth it IMHO.Even thought she paid me a million I would not be able to do her.

But I would rather pay you $250 so you do not post such pics, so I save my laptop fro vomiting on it:)

Nyc Expat
07-01-10, 23:54
In the future everyone will either be Chinese or Indian and of muslim religion. That's like 4billion of the world population right there.

Don't know how other people feel about that, but if the muslims 'invade' Europe I would hate it. Just not my culture and I don't relate with it at all.

Power by numbers, can't do anything to stop 67% of the world population fucking & mixing with the other 30% of which will end up diluted and bred out.

Third world citizens have already invaded western Europe continuing their barbaric, fanatic religious practices. The invasion started 25 years ago. By 2050 Europe will be a suburb of most Middle Eastern cities. White Europeans will be an extreme minority. The U.N. demanded countries open their borders to immigration. I know my facts because I've lived half my life in Europe, now relocated back to the U.S.A. I've seen the invasion and its depressing.

Another member wrote today they will not assimilate into western society. So very true. European countries have now closed their borders to further immigration except in extreme situations but the damage is done. Some Somalian and Ethiopian immediate family members are 10-20 persons. They get more European social welfare support than most American families earning $8-10 hourly.

Several European countries have offered these immigrants US$25,000 to leave but not enough are accepting the offer. I know this thread is not the place for my comments but when I read another members posting, I feel it necessary to reply.

Bango Cheito
07-01-10, 23:55
I have had my dick enter a girl's throat three times in my life.... once was a pornstar... once was a WG who was in fact bulimic haahahahahah.... once was a girl in Colombia just recently with whom I'm now going out... I don't know her whole story yet...

Jon32
07-02-10, 09:55
Third world citizens have already invaded western Europe continuing their barbaric, fanatic religious practices. The invasion started 25 years ago. By 2050 Europe will be a suburb of most Middle Eastern cities. White Europeans will be an extreme minority. The U.N. demanded countries open their borders to immigration. I know my facts because I've lived half my life in Europe, now relocated back to the U.S.A. I've seen the invasion and its depressing.

Another member wrote today they will not assimilate into western society. So very true. European countries have now closed their borders to further immigration except in extreme situations but the damage is done. Some Somalian and Ethiopian immediate family members are 10-20 persons. They get more European social welfare support than most American families earning $8-10 hourly.

Several European countries have offered these immigrants US$25,000 to leave but not enough are accepting the offer. I know this thread is not the place for my comments but when I read another members posting, I feel it necessary to reply.

World population chart. 81% will be African or Asian by 2100. Cant stop people from taking over the world when they're making 10 babies at a time. (I'm looking at you Africa). The highest birthrates in the world come from African and Muslim countries.

Sucks(my opinion), but so be it. Tell your grandkids they better learn to like chinese food and praise Allah.

Jon32
07-02-10, 12:04
World population chart. 81% will be African or Asian by 2100. Cant stop people from taking over the world when they're making 10 babies at a time. (I'm looking at you Africa). The highest birthrates in the world come from African and Muslim countries.

Sucks(my opinion), but so be it. Tell your grandkids they better learn to like chinese food and praise Allah.

Coincidence - just read on the news an Islamic man has 430 grandchildren.

No that's not a typo... 430. Quotes from the article:

"Does this 82 year old man not worry about bringing children into a country with many people living in poverty and unemployment at around 40%?

His Answer: "No, because if I lose 200 of my grandchildren, I will still have 200 left. I still think I could manage another 10 or 15 kids." "



Western Civilization ain't competing with guys having 400 grandkids!!

Nyc Expat
07-02-10, 17:18
First, it is not racism but maintaining western standard of living and life style not to be criticized by religious fanatics desire to eradicate our society.

Second, The Australian Continent has the tightest immigration and protectionist laws anywhere. Draw your own conclusion.

Crazy Jim Wood
07-03-10, 00:02
The other thing is that the US and Europe are losing their economic grip on the world, especially the US, China basically keeps America afloat these days also Australia too LOL. People are not calling this the "Asian" century for nothing. For your information the vast majority of humanity is non white already. So just get used to it.

Which invasion NYC? The Muslims or the Mexicans? The US is being overrun with the latter. I have been to the US many times, I often think I am an Latin America when I fly over to LAX, from what I know NY is majority non white too. In South Florida you need to speak Spanish for most jobs.
Great, isn't it? There will be much more latina ass!!!

Nyc Expat
07-03-10, 01:43
If you think we should get used to the invasion of 3rd. world citizens in our western society, you're out of your mind. It is them that have to conform to our life style if they want to live in the west.

He should be the first to move to Kabul or Baghdad and try to pick up a woman to p4p wearing a burka. In their world p4p is unlawful and punishable by stoning of women to death and castration of men plus beheading. Is that what you want for your future or our children to live in such a barbaric society?

Goga Fung
07-03-10, 04:50
Third world citizens have already invaded western Europe continuing their barbaric, fanatic religious practices. The invasion started 25 years ago. By 2050 Europe will be a suburb of most Middle Eastern cities. White Europeans will be an extreme minority. The U.N. demanded countries open their borders to immigration. I know my facts because I've lived half my life in Europe, now relocated back to the U.S.A. I've seen the invasion and its depressing. Kinda curious. From your other posts I got an impression that you lived in Brazil and had a Brazilian wife. So supposedly somehow you must like the 3rd World.

Everyday you can hear that actually lots gringos are invading South America and Asia, which makes those countries and women in particular becoming more American-like, so other gringos(who came there earlier) and local guys too get pissed off.

So the question is who invades whom and what is more depressing, West becoming more like 3rd World or 3rd World becoming more like West, so that in the future you guys will not have any place to go for nice women.

DJ FourMoney
07-03-10, 05:21
Third world citizens have already invaded western Europe continuing their barbaric, fanatic religious practices. The invasion started 25 years ago. By 2050 Europe will be a suburb of most Middle Eastern cities. White Europeans will be an extreme minority. The U.N. demanded countries open their borders to immigration. I know my facts because I've lived half my life in Europe, now relocated back to the U.S.A. I've seen the invasion and its depressing.

Another member wrote today they will not assimilate into western society. So very true. European countries have now closed their borders to further immigration except in extreme situations but the damage is done. Some Somalian and Ethiopian immediate family members are 10-20 persons. They get more European social welfare support than most American families earning $8-10 hourly.

Several European countries have offered these immigrants US$25,000 to leave but not enough are accepting the offer. I know this thread is not the place for my comments but when I read another members posting, I feel it necessary to reply.

Yeah I heard that some EU countries are offering people to leave and also spending more and more money in Africa to improve conditions enough to encourage Africans to stay home. Muslims however are different kettle of fish.

I said they won't assimilate, I was watching a story on Link TV about how in the UK, they are busting dudes for arranged marriages. The first girl they had to pickup they knew on a first name basis because this was the second time they had to pry her away from some guy.

Honor killings are happing in US, Canada and UK. Also reports of it in Germany, Holland and few other places. They operate in tightly knitted communities and make it hard for law enforcement to do their job.

Now to be honest, its not even all or most of them, its the more Orthodox/Evangelical types that are involved in this 16th Century activities. I mean in some countries they still Stone people if you can believe it.

DJ FourMoney
07-03-10, 05:40
First, it is not racism but maintaining western standard of living and life style not to be criticized by religious fanatics desire to eradicate our society.

Second, The Australian Continent has the tightest immigration and protectionist laws anywhere. Draw your own conclusion.

I agree NYC is about maintaining a standard of living. If you have seen the barrios in East LA or South Central LA, you wouldn't say it was racist to keep a standard of living. Its not as run down as some of the poorest areas in Mexico but that's because we have infrastructure (which is crumbling but that's for another thread).

The line to get into the US from Mexico is already 20 or more years long. Somebody mentioned we need to address the quota system we use for Green Cards and Resident Visas. But we also need to invest in Mexico to discourage Mexicans from trying to flee. NAFTA doesn't help either. Also Guatemalans and others from poorer Central American Countries are also crossing our Southwestern boarder.

But our situation is somewhat complex. There are low wage and dirty low wage jobs that need to be done. No US born citizens want to do this work, especially picking food. Its not an excuse, but its the fault of these business owners. They want to keep operation cost down, so they won't raise wages, its only because of Cesar Chavez that we even have decent wages for farm workers at all. So they encourage illegal immigrant to work for them, go to PBS's web site and Frontline World and you'll see what happens when INS decides it wants to deport people, that small town has almost come to a crashing halt because the immigrants put money back in the local economy.

These are town that are dying because all the younger kids are leaving for more exciting places and better paying jobs. This is major problem in rural America especially in places where they do much of the food growing and packing.

So like I said its a fairly complex problem.

DJ FourMoney
07-03-10, 05:47
If you think we should get used to the invasion of 3rd. world citizens in our western society, you're out of your mind. It is them that have to conform to our life style if they want to live in the west.

He should be the first to move to Kabul or Baghdad and try to pick up a woman to p4p wearing a burka. In their world p4p is unlawful and punishable by stoning of women to death and castration of men plus beheading. Is that what you want for your future or our children to live in such a barbaric society?

Man I agree, the world will be fairly "Brown" by the time for most of us it just won't matter anymore. We'll be dead, or enjoying our grandchildren.

The issue is Caucasians having fewer and fewer children, that's the problem. They have stop having children at the rate of replacement in Europe and even Eastern Europe. This is a problem in Russia and Ukraine as well. Belarus tried to pass a law preventing Western men from taking the younger women as brides. That was ruled illegal but you can understand why. This is why most of Western Europe has looked toward immigration. This also why they give incentives to have children in most EU countries. I know Russia still has a program to encourage women to have children.

Like said its their own fault they had to turn to immigration and paying women to have kids. This is the effect of Individualism.

Australiasucks
07-03-10, 13:46
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1 down, 2 to go

Will somebody please report this guy's next racist comment via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson

Australiasucks
07-03-10, 13:50
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Dickhead
07-03-10, 14:12
I am down with brown. Make everybody marry someone from a different race and in three generations you have a nice lite brown. Mixed race people are more attractive overall. So go for it. I would do my part but I am snipped. Last night I brought a blond back to my building for an hour counseling session and after I took her back to ho house, I was chatting with my doorman. He was telling me how much he loved blondes. "That is because you are Latino. I am a gringo, muy polaco (means light skinned), so I need morrochas." "Then why were you with the blond?" "Son, you know that was a fake blond, right?" He was disappointed to hear that and then he asked about my morocha friend who was here the day before and I told him she thought he was cute and would probably blow him for 100 pesos if I told her too. He asked me if that was all I gave her, 100 pesos, and I said no; I gave her 200 pesos sometimes and 150 other times depending on how long she stayed. He asked why then only 100 for him and I said, "Cuz you won't last five minutes the way this gal sucks."

Australiasucks
07-04-10, 02:27
I am down with brown. Make everybody marry someone from a different race and in three generations you have a nice lite brown. Mixed race people are more attractive overall. So go for it. I would do my part but I am snipped. Last night I brought a blond back to my building for an hour counseling session and after I took her back to ho house, I was chatting with my doorman. He was telling me how much he loved blondes. "That is because you are Latino. I am a gringo, muy polaco (means light skinned), so I need morrochas." "Then why were you with the blond? " "Son, you know that was a fake blond, right?" He was disappointed to hear that and then he asked about my morocha friend who was here the day before and I told him she thought he was cute and would probably blow him for 100 pesos if I told her too. He asked me if that was all I gave her, 100 pesos, and I said no; I gave her 200 pesos sometimes and 150 other times depending on how long she stayed. He asked why then only 100 for him and I said, "because you won't last five minutes the way this gal sucks."This is so true, some of the best looking people I have met in my life are of mixed backgrounds. I see only good in all of it.

DJ FourMoney
07-04-10, 08:35
I am down with brown. Make everybody marry someone from a different race and in three generations you have a nice lite brown. Mixed race people are more attractive overall. So go for it. I would do my part but I am snipped. Last night I brought a blond back to my building for an hour counseling session and after I took her back to ho house, I was chatting with my doorman. He was telling me how much he loved blondes. "That is because you are Latino. I am a gringo, muy polaco (means light skinned), so I need morrochas." "Then why were you with the blond?" "Son, you know that was a fake blond, right?" He was disappointed to hear that and then he asked about my morocha friend who was here the day before and I told him she thought he was cute and would probably blow him for 100 pesos if I told her too. He asked me if that was all I gave her, 100 pesos, and I said no; I gave her 200 pesos sometimes and 150 other times depending on how long she stayed. He asked why then only 100 for him and I said, "Cuz you won't last five minutes the way this gal sucks."

I'm down for the Brown as well, being Brown...

My problem (if you wanna call it one) that much of South America with ties back to West India and Africa have problems with racial inequality. To say Afro-Colombians are treated shabby is an understatement. No matter how popular an icon Pele is or how many Black Men Xuxa bangs/marries, Afro-Brazilians are at the bottom of the income and social order.

I do find it interesting that many Black Men have gone on Bride Tours down to Colombia. But it seems to me they are coming back with darker morenas or Afro-Colombians. Call me silly but give me somebody a honey or golden brown and I'm all over it. But those girls tend to dig their own men or White Men only.

I am going to venture down to see for myself and confirm if I'm right or not, but it seem more often than not I'm a excellent judge of women...

Dickhead
07-04-10, 13:53
There are hardly any blacks at all here in Argentina, aside from some Dominicanas who apparently got lost on their way to Campo Alegre. Had one of them accuse me of being a racist because I never go with the Dominicans. I told her I liked black people just fine; I just didn't like Dominicans. Now they don't bother me any more.

One weird race thing you get down here is dark skinned gals who try to stay out of the sun because they don't want to get any darker.

Oh well. Six more weeks and I will be up shit's creek like the rest of you poor bastards.

DJ FourMoney
07-05-10, 02:18
There are hardly any blacks at all here in Argentina, aside from some Dominicanas who apparently got lost on their way to Campo Alegre. Had one of them accuse me of being a racist because I never go with the Dominicans. I told her I liked black people just fine; I just didn't like Dominicans. Now they don't bother me any more.

One weird race thing you get down here is dark skinned gals who try to stay out of the sun because they don't want to get any darker.

Oh well. Six more weeks and I will be up shit's creek like the rest of you poor bastards.

Shiet Creek huh? Well be safe... Happy 4th of July

Westy
07-05-10, 04:53
I'm down for the Brown as well, being Brown....
Or, as a Black neighbor/friend of mine said when I told him of my DR exploits, "Once you go Black, there's no turning back!"

Qualification: I am of Caucasian ancestry (as far as I know), but I spend so much time in the sun that my complexion is almost as dark as my neighbor's.

But I recognize my genetic heritage as not worth a $#!+ for the gene pool - whereupon it is incumbent on me to keep "Dickhardinho" wrapped up and descendant-proofed.

Dickhead
07-05-10, 13:56
Dickhardinho can be easily descendant proofed, effectively eliminating the need for annoying covers. Splat.

Gentleman Travel
07-06-10, 19:14
AW thinks, "Oh good; he didn't come so now I won't have that stuff dripping out of me all day long." Latina thinks, "He didn't come and so I did something wrong and now he will go find someone else."
Exactly - that is one major difference.
AW thinks she has done her duty if she lets you enter her, anything beyond that is your responsibility.
In man-friendly cultures the woman knows it is her role and responsibility to provide sexual satisfaction.

I had an experience like this a couple weeks ago in the Caribbean.
After this 19 year old bangs and blows me until we are both exhausted, but with no happy ending, she says "Pour quoi, cheri? Pour quoi?" (meaning "Why are you not coming?").

Well, actually because you have floppy tits and aren't all that good in bed, despite your youth and pretty face.

She was afraid that since she did not please me adequately I would replace her. And she was right.
So I sent her off and ordered in a new girl for the next two days, one of her friends who, presumably properly briefed, tried harder.

Westy
07-07-10, 04:29
Dickhardinho can be easily descendant proofed, effectively eliminating the need for annoying covers. Splat.
You're right, Dickhead. But the other factor is that my "targets" are all professionals, who have both a higher possibility of catching STD's and a definite interest in NOT catching anything that a bite from a trouser-snake could give them; therefore, Dickhardinho goes in like an unacknowledged spy-service operator - under "cover".

I have considered "Hurrah for the little knife!" more than once. If I were so lucky as to start a romance with a "garota SEM programa" (non-pro), I'd be likely to do so. But if "she" is going to put a rubber baby-bumper onto him anyways, is it really worth bothering?

Dickhead
07-07-10, 05:12
i have screwed at least fifty professionals down here without resorting to "spy tactics." i never suggest it and it just happens. what never ceases to amaze me is that in the majority of these situations they are unaware of the surgical improvement that i have made. furthermore, in those cases where i have told them i am sterile, why in the world would they believe me?

but in the cases where i fuck them bareback repeatedly over and over relentlessly time and again, it comes in handy as far as increasing their comfort level. many times it seems to happen that for some reason after they have shoved my uncovered dick in them, they still think i am going to pull out. now if they actually ask me to do this, i do it (unless of course i then talk them out of it by saying i am fixed) but if they do not, i do not. often this leads to a horrified look on their faces when they realize i have shot a copious load into them. to then be able to honestly say that i am fixed is then a good thing, although again why should they believe me?

it's also important to note that in many cases my reputation precedes me. by this i mean it is known on the street that i am cut, and this probably leads to more chicas being willing to fuck me bareback without any discussion because they already know (or think they know) this, due to gossip and the internecine nature of the scene here.

to get back on topic, it is not as much fun to bareback american women for several reasons:

1) aws do not seem to receive the same training in the care and maintenance of the pussy, or do not give a shit. bluntly stated the smell of american pussy does not measure up to the smell of latina or asian pussy in particular. in fact many latina women carry an extra pair of underpants in their purse so they do not get caught with "clitty litter." it should be noted that the lack of bidets in sp exacerbates this.

2) aws tend to be more jizzphobic and often leap up and run for the shower whereas latinas are more content to fall asleep and allow the jizz to remain in its intended location until it leaks gradually into the sheets. oftentimes this leakage is combined with initial menstrual fluid that was brought on early by the aggressive, jackhammer style of fucking that latinas favor. this is known as "collateral damage" and can be largely controlled with hydrogen peroxide (h2o2).

3) a lot of times aw will begin to allow barebacking and then will subsequently freak out and push you away, scream [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), etc. with a latina once you are in you are in. after all, getting pregnant is no big deal. everybody has babies in latin america. what is one more?

4) aw never try to talk me into knocking them up so they can have a blue eyed kid. probably about ten of the latinas i have barebacked, i did so after they requested impregnation. of those, three or four eventually found out i was sterile. so i said, "hey, at least i tried" and this was funny to them.

the thing about condoms is they are not really all that great as a long-run means of birth control. the failure rate is too high and the consequences of a failure are too severe. yes, many times these consequences can be run from, when they result from mongering, but i don't want to be that guy.

Jon32
07-07-10, 09:16
2) aws tend to be more jizzphobic and often leap up and run for the shower whereas latinas are more content to fall asleep and allow the jizz to remain in its intended location until it leaks gradually into the sheets. oftentimes this leakage is combined with initial menstrual fluid that was brought on early by the aggressive, jackhammer style of fucking that latinas favor. this is known as "collateral damage" and can be largely controlled with hydrogen peroxide (h2o2).

3) a lot of times aw will begin to allow barebacking and then will subsequently freak out and push you away, scream [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), etc. with a latina once you are in you are in. after all, getting pregnant is no big deal. everybody has babies in latin america. what is one more?




lol. now here is an opinion column for usa today. would like to see the reader mail after that one!

Australiasucks
07-07-10, 12:52
i have screwed at least fifty professionals down here without resorting to "spy tactics." i never suggest it and it just happens. what never ceases to amaze me is that in the majority of these situations they are unaware of the surgical improvement that i have made. furthermore, in those cases where i have told them i am sterile, why in the world would they believe me?

but in the cases where i fuck them bareback repeatedly over and over relentlessly time and again, it comes in handy as far as increasing their comfort level. many times it seems to happen that for some reason after they have shoved my uncovered dick in them, they still think i am going to pull out. now if they actually ask me to do this, i do it (unless of course i then talk them out of it by saying i am fixed) but if they do not, i do not. often this leads to a horrified look on their faces when they realize i have shot a copious load into them. to then be able to honestly say that i am fixed is then a good thing, although again why should they believe me?

it's also important to note that in many cases my reputation precedes me. by this i mean it is known on the street that i am cut, and this probably leads to more chicas being willing to fuck me bareback without any discussion because they already know (or think they know) this, due to gossip and the internecine nature of the scene here.

to get back on topic, it is not as much fun to bareback american women for several reasons:

1) aws do not seem to receive the same training in the care and maintenance of the pussy, or do not give a shit. bluntly stated the smell of american pussy does not measure up to the smell of latina or asian pussy in particular. in fact many latina women carry an extra pair of underpants in their purse so they do not get caught with "clitty litter." it should be noted that the lack of bidets in sp exacerbates this.

2) aws tend to be more jizzphobic and often leap up and run for the shower whereas latinas are more content to fall asleep and allow the jizz to remain in its intended location until it leaks gradually into the sheets. oftentimes this leakage is combined with initial menstrual fluid that was brought on early by the aggressive, jackhammer style of fucking that latinas favor. this is known as "collateral damage" and can be largely controlled with hydrogen peroxide (h2o2).

3) a lot of times aw will begin to allow barebacking and then will subsequently freak out and push you away, scream [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), etc. with a latina once you are in you are in. after all, getting pregnant is no big deal. everybody has babies in latin america. what is one more?

4) aw never try to talk me into knocking them up so they can have a blue eyed kid. probably about ten of the latinas i have barebacked, i did so after they requested impregnation. of those, three or four eventually found out i was sterile. so i said, "hey, at least i tried" and this was funny to them.

the thing about condoms is they are not really all that great as a long-run means of birth control. the failure rate is too high and the consequences of a failure are too severe. yes, many times these consequences can be run from, when they result from mongering, but i don't want to be that guy.i had quite a few women offer bareback in europe, but did not do it. i really am not comfortable doing bareback with someone i do not know. also stds still exist and i want to stay healthy to keep mongering. as far as i know asian women do not have much of an odor on their pussies. caucasian women do have a smell down there, kind of a dairy cheese like smell and taste. might have something to do with diet.

Westy
07-07-10, 13:29
a lot of times aw will begin to allow barebacking and then will subsequently freak out and push you away, scream [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), etc. with a latina once you are in you are in. after all, getting pregnant is no big deal. everybody has babies in latin america. what is one more?
lol. now here is an opinion column for usa today. would like to see the reader mail after that one!
yipes! i can see so many ways that could be turned incendiary, here in sex prison; from "anchor babies" to "abortion rights" to "illegal immigration" to "overpopulation" ... as the sonnet said, "let me count the ways!"

Dickhead
07-07-10, 15:07
By "abortion rights" I assume you are referring to the situation where the hooker says, "DH you need to pay for my abortion" and I say, "Yeah, right!

Bango Cheito
07-07-10, 21:03
I remember something about that sperm wars book talking about that same thing, change in sex habits altering change in the girl's menstrual cycle...

A month ago I banged my current love for the first time and she had always had her period only once every 3 months or so, and 28 days after that (she was on her period the first time we did it) she had her first REGULAR period in her life. I'm wondering what are the biological implications of that!

Westy
07-08-10, 01:41
I remember something about that sperm wars book talking about that same thing, change in sex habits altering change in the girl's menstrual cycle...

A month ago I banged my current love for the first time and she had always had her period only once every 3 months or so, and 28 days after that (she was on her period the first time we did it) she had her first REGULAR period in her life. I'm wondering what are the biological implications of that!
Sounds as though she finally completed puberty?

NO, no, no, I'm just kidding. Didn't really mean it. But it was too beautiful a "straight line" and I just COULDN'T ignore it!

Sprite13
07-09-10, 08:17
And would like our American friends in here to comment and give their views on the points raised there:

http://americathegrimtruth.wordpress.com/

Westy
07-09-10, 15:16
Speaking from the Washington, DC region: I see some truth in this. A fair amount. But this article is much more "grim" than "truth".

Maybe the author of this piece would see me as "part of the enemy." I worked 36 years as a cartographer (map maker) for the Federal government; now I'm retired with the old Civil Service pension and FedGov health benefits. I bought a house I could afford, and paid off all my debts before I even applied for retirement. So I'm feeling pretty comfortable.

The USA has borne some heavy responsibilities in the world. From 1947 to 1990, there was that Cold War thing, right? There was an honest fear, certainly through into the 1970s or so, that the Soviet Bloc was out to conquer the "Free World," and the USA was put into the position of "The World's Policeman" through those years and after. Let's not carp about how the USA may have misused our armed forces in recent years, please.

Divisiveness among our people? Maybe so, but I doubt if it's worse than many other countries. Our politics appear more deeply-divided, but I'd doubt if they actually ARE. Our media are talking up our divisiveness, and there is a tussle between CBS/NBC/CNN and the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. If a country doesn't have similar mudslinging between media outlets, maybe their media is being controlled to suppress it.

Political corruption? Our legislators are heavily addicted to pork. Just as our people are heavily addicted to consumerism.

Would the USA have such a massive problem with "illegal immigration" if it weren't still regarded as the Land Of Opportunity? Okay, "opportunity" is a crapshoot, here as everywhere. But how many countries have the "opportunity" sewn up so heavily by the top fortunate well-connected few, that nobody outside The Circle stands a chance?

Now for a qualifying remark: I have visited outside the USA, for trips and travels up to three weeks long. I have not lived outside the USA for any extended periods. I have not tried to use the government services of any other country, save the post offices. Some of my travel was official US Government business, teaching some specialty cartography courses to allies' mapping institutes. This gave me the privilege of working with colleagues in these other countries, and I know it left me in "special status" (not quite diplomat, but awfully close).

I have observed some things I really like about other countries. And one country started me thinking seriously of emigrating when I retire - not because I saw it as "more free" or "less intimidating" than my homeland, but for economic and "informal society" reasons. To wit, my pension would go further, I could have a nicer home in a more attractive neighborhood than I could afford here in the USA, and with my money and "exotic" status I'd be more likely to have some success with the local chicas.

There's a factor about the USA that the article doesn't address - that is, the feminist-militant social culture prevalent in my neighborhood area. I feel like I'm walking into a minefield if I "chat up" a woman I find attractive. I don't get that feeling in South America. That may have been caused, in its way, by the FedGov; but it was more "unintended consequence" than "intended result of policy". Nevertheless, it makes my life in the USA less fulfilling than it could be in a more "feminine-friendly" culture, if that makes sense.

Summary: I do indeed see some of the described problems, in my homeland the USA, but I don't see them in as stark dark terms as they're portrayed in this article. Nevertheless, there are countries other than the USA in which I believe I'd find my life would be more enjoyable. Therefore I am planning to emigrate, I am visiting more "candidate countries," and I am putting my affairs and "stuff" in order to make the move smooth when I figure out where I'm going to go.


And would like our American friends in here to comment and give their views on the points raised there:

http://americathegrimtruth.wordpress.com/

Bango Cheito
07-09-10, 16:12
And would like our American friends in here to comment and give their views on the points raised there:

http://americathegrimtruth.wordpress.com/

I had a a little better experience with medical care in the US... but I also was completely without insurance for 4 of the 11 years I lived there...

In other ways, the author doesn't go far enough..... I have now just about 2 years living in Colombia, and what he says about freedom REALLY HITS HOME!

Americans have this huge ILLUSION that there is economic mobility, the truth is that here in Colombia in 2010 there is MORE economic mobility than in the US. Speaking from first hand experience. And despite the fact that this is supposedly a "third-world" nation (outdated term), there is a lot more attention paid to things like health care and education here than in the US. A LOT!!!

CastOnThis
07-09-10, 17:07
And would like our American friends in here to comment and give their views on the points raised there:

http://americathegrimtruth.wordpress.com/This is not the truth. There are some truths but mostly it is a bunch of crap. The author is filled with bitterness and the crap he talks about is just that crap. I received medical attention once when I was in India due to bad stomach pain due to the water. And the medical attention I received was not like the one the majority of Indians get.

There are only a few nations that are better then the US, and then in those nations the cost of some basic items that are cheap in the states are costly. So really in the end you might not get your money's worth in those countries, but still those countries are cleaner, nicer, healthier, beautiful and they beat a really good country like the USA.

Dickhead
07-09-10, 18:59
Well, let's see. I have been to thirty countries but I have not lived in nearly that many. I will rate the countries and then the US, both on overall life and the women as compared to AW. Countries are presented in chronological order of initial experience.

México: Lived there for a total of ten months. Would prefer to live in México and prefer Méxican women. Might not be as true today (as far as living there, not the women) with the drug wars.
Ireland: Spent two months there living like a local. Would prefer to live in the US and prefer US women.
Germany: Lived there for four months. Would prefer to live in the US and prefer US women. But not hugely so.
UK (England): Lived there for four months. Would prefer to live in the US and prefer US women.
Argentina: Spent years there so obviously would prefer to live in Argentina, and prefer Argentinean woman. Like so epically not even close.
Colombia: Tried to live there for three months, left after six weeks, too dangerous, would prefer to live in the US, but prefer Colombian women
Spain: Lived there for three months, would prefer to live in Spain, prefer Spanish women, both by a fairly wide margin.

Other countries I've been to enough to know I would prefer living there to living in the US: Australia, New Zealand, Costa Rica, The Netherlands, Uruguay, Portugal. Don't like Dutch women too much. They might be just marginally better than AW though.

Other countries I've been to enough to know there is no fucking way I would live there: Jamaica, The Bahamas, Cambodia, Morocco, France, Venezuela. The women suck in all those places except Venezuela

Countries where I would have to think long and hard whether I would prefer them to the US or not: Ecuador, Perú, Chile. Prefer US women to the ones in Ecuador but prefer peruanas and chilenas to AW.

Country I would not live in but the women are awesome = Paraguay

Silly countries I could not take seriously: Malta, Luxembourg, Bolivia

ThatGuy865
07-09-10, 21:06
As for a single payer system. You have to thank the repulican party for not wanting it and any system resembling it. Can you say socialism. And we all know thats a bad word in a capitalistic country. There are even poor people who can't afford health care. But will not vote for a single payer system cause they link it with socialism and even they hope to be rich someday. So they can look down on those who can't afford it.

Alvaro 30
07-09-10, 23:52
Hi everybody,

I am a new one, I woud like to know what are the right webs to meet AWomen (as Myspace??), I am from Peru and I live here.

Alvaro

Sgt Bilko
07-10-10, 02:50
Guys, I want to have a kid or two, but I live in the USA and have no desire to have any with an American woman and subject myself (in my mid-forties) to the vagaries of USA courts and having all my limited (but not inconsequential) wealth hijacked. I really think Latinas are phenomenal after visiting the region regularly for 15 years. When I say this it is not because I am a self-hating gringo or that I find American women unattractive. (I love the US and think American women can be very sexy.) But I think that our culture has lost its way (I'll spare you my reasons why.) Do any of you have any kids in Latin America? I am serious and would like to hear about your (not fake) experiences. (I have been to the DR, Venezuela, Mexico, and Colombia. I think the non-pro women in these countries are great, but am open to other countries in the region. I am also a lapsed Catholic; nevertheless I would prefer a woman of the same faith as I am familiar with it.) Please share any insights and real-life experiences and spare me gratuitous judgments of me.

Thanks gents.

DJ FourMoney
07-10-10, 18:51
first avaro -

stick to the ones that travel to your country. you not want them as life-partners. but if you must, nobody uses my space anymore in the states, use facebook, only nervous nellies about "privacy" issues have stopped using it, but that still leaves a vast majority of the population on there.

sarge -

i'm sure others can answer better than i can, but since i've done the homework, here goes.

i see no disadvantage to marrying and having children with a woman from south america, specifically colombia, peru, dr, costa rica and maybe argentina.

colombia has an established "bride" industry. opinions vary if you should use a service or do it on your own, you can be your own best judgement there.

finding a woman that's catholic shouldn't be a problem in south america at all, finding atheist would be harder one would think.

i can't comment on having children and living down there, if that's what your considering. maybe you should check out some expat forums for details.

about the us in decline -

if you have money or access your likely not to see it much. but for the rest of us, its terrible. i don't think i can stand another 6-8 years of excuses that this country is center right, when all poling data shows otherwise. i don't know if i can stand an almost complete abandonment of exporting goods, we export "intellectual property" and war these days.

we are just in the beginnings of civil and social decay.

the recent verdict in the oscar grant case is another glaring reminder that are justice system is no where near fair. its also a reminder that since obama's election, any overt racism that had been kept under wraps do to social pressures, has been unleashed and will only get worst, it doesn't matter if your talking about murder of african-americans by police or "minute men" renegade shauna forde murdering a mexican child for fear of being "snitched" on because she also killed her mother (the father lived).

instead of cutting war spending and the dod's budget, they want to cut social services and general casey is talking about spending another "decade or so" rebuilding iraq and afghanistan.

we have 2 trillion dollars worth of infrastructure work to do, including upgrading the power grid, adding high speed rail, more light rail projects and renewable energy systems. we have "last mile" issues with high speed internet and a widening "digital divide" to lower income people.

they claim we can't afford single payer health care and currently ranked in the mid 30's among other industrialized nations. the annual mercer "quality of life" survey hasn't had a us city ranked in the top 10 for a very long time (at least a decade). highest ranked is honolulu, hawaii and there are four cities in canada ranked ahead of it.

i won't even spend time talking about 15-20% real unemployment (even higher among blacks and latino males), the laughable way they rank poverty and some of those most expensive secondary education in the world which effectively limits the number of applicants.

our government claims victory on reform, but really only nibbles around the edges.

its sad state of affairs and doesn't look to be getting any better, only worst as some of the deficit problems and devaluation of the dollar are going to become real problems in the near future.

my solution is to marry a nice european girl and stay there.

Dickhead
07-10-10, 21:49
Never been there but what I hear and read about it does not make me want to go there, and I don't find the women visually attractive (in general). A couple of my friends moved there, though, and they like it. Too fucken hot for me for one thing. The only way I could live in the tropics would be at altitude, like Quito or Chachapoyas or something. I want a mild, four-season climate with lots of sunshine. Still haven't really found it though. Buenos Aires I have to get the fuck out of there for two months a year because it's too hot.

Nyc Expat
07-11-10, 00:13
Bilko.
My son, now four was born in Brazil. Excellent pre-post-natal care by all involved. Within three months, he became an American citizen at the US Embassy in Rio. Two weeks later he, his Mom and I arrived in the U.S. Save ALL documents. Even airline seating stubs.

You'll find the most attractive Brazilian women in the southern states f.ex. Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul with white European ancestry. In some parts of Parana state also where I met my wife.

Here in the US now we've met other Brazilian women married to American men and the children are beautiful especially the girls. There are thousands of single Brazilian women already here you can try to meet.

BTW, I lived in Europe for half my life. If you want to live in Europe, your European wife will have to prove to the authorities she can support you before you get a residency and work permit. Europe is becoming a closed continent for foreigners as there are too many foreigners now seeking permanent residency. Then there is the language barrier. Many Euro women have become Americanized concerning materialistic items. Latina women are better in bed and respect men as the family provider and leader. They know there place in the family.

Prefer Anal
07-11-10, 14:20
And would like our American friends in here to comment and give their views on the points raised there:

http://americathegrimtruth. Wordpress.com/As soon as I started to read this article I also started to laugh.

It was obvious from the very beginning that the guy writing this is in love with nanny state type big government. He thinks other people should pay for his health care and that the government should force his employer to give him as much time off as he wants because he hates or hated his jobs (and was paid poorly) and doesn't have the stones to go out and make it on his own. He hates free enterprise and capitalism.

America isn't perfect. But what makes America great is the individual, not the government. It's the entrepreneurial spirit (American Dream). It is still alive and well. You can be a bum in the street one day and rich the next or vice versa. Yes, it takes some cash to live well here. As it does in most developed countries. The happy people from other parts of the world he speaks of I bet are well off too.

I used to work for a large international consulting company and had the benefit of living and traveling internationally for years. They are a lot of wonderful countries, people and cultures out there. Some may do SOME things better than the USA all have pluses and minuses. Including the USA

But at the end of the day I am not trading my passport in for one from another country. And I would go "all in" on the USA before I would any other country.

This guy is a bitter loser.

DJ FourMoney
07-11-10, 15:19
Bilko.
My son, now four was born in Brazil. Excellent pre-post-natal care by all involved. Within three months, he became an American citizen at the US Embassy in Rio. Two weeks later he, his Mom and I arrived in the U.S. Save ALL documents. Even airline seating stubs.

You'll find the most attractive Brazilian women in the southern states f.ex. Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul with white European ancestry. In some parts of Parana state also where I met my wife.

Here in the US now we've met other Brazilian women married to American men and the children are beautiful especially the girls. There are thousands of single Brazilian women already here you can try to meet.

BTW, I lived in Europe for half my life. If you want to live in Europe, your European wife will have to prove to the authorities she can support you before you get a residency and work permit. Europe is becoming a closed continent for foreigners as there are too many foreigners now seeking permanent residency. Then there is the language barrier. Many Euro women have become Americanized concerning materialistic items. Latina women are better in bed and respect men as the family provider and leader. They know there place in the family.

I agree with you, just a few things I want to know, maybe more like statements.

Children born to US Male citizens have to be registered as citizens at the US Embassy? Somehow I thought this was automatic when you signed the birth certificates.

I've only met one Brazilian locally and she wasn't bad looking, just chubby. This may be more of a immigration question, but did you use a lawyer for all your K-1 paperwork or did you marry locally in Brazil and did one of the two or three ways you can file for your wife to become a legal resident?

I know to gain residency in Europe you have to have proof you can earn an income locally and they don't mean being the local dish washer :) I recently learned that Brussels was officially a bi-lingual city and the local bureaucracy is geared towards speakers of English and Flemish. But to be honest I had no troubles in Sweden, Norway or Netherlands.

What's wrong with Luxembourg? As a City/State it seems okay to me, its where Rich Europeans (and others) launder their money...

DJ FourMoney
07-11-10, 15:27
Never been there but what I hear and read about it does not make me want to go there, and I don't find the women visually attractive (in general). A couple of my friends moved there, though, and they like it. Too fucken hot for me for one thing. The only way I could live in the tropics would be at altitude, like Quito or Chachapoyas or something. I want a mild, four-season climate with lots of sunshine. Still haven't really found it though. Buenos Aires I have to get the fuck out of there for two months a year because it's too hot.

Cost of Living makes it difficult to stay in California but weather wise it can't be any more perfect. A similar climate in Europe means Spain, Portugal or at the very least Southern France. My problem with more tropical climates is it seems it can rain at any given moment and it tends to flood more, especially in places where the infrastructure hasn't caught up to 1st Nation status. Seems the richer Asian countries have done more to prevent widespread flooding.

P.I doesn't interest me that much either, plenty of them already in the LA area. A majority of them are dark and short. This can be good, but generally its bad. One of my good friends is Thai and I tend to share his preferences for Asian women. There are few Eurasians (and Afro-Asians) running around those, so one never knows.

Nyc Expat
07-11-10, 16:41
In Brazil a child born in country is a citizen of the mother if I remember correctly. For Americans, if you want your child to become a US citizen by birthright to an American parent you must apply for citizenship. It is not just a question of registration.

The Brazilian birth certificate has to be translated to English. You will need proof of residency in the United States plus other documents. The mother must also provide documents of residency, her birth certificate and more. There is a charge of several hundred dollars at time of personal appearance at the Embassy. The citizenship certificate is issued within 30 minutes if all documents are accepted and approved. What a great accomplishment and satisfaction I experienced when we left the Embassy with my American son’s documents. His US passport arrived at our Brazilian home within 10 days. July 2006 was good.

Procedures may vary and further documentation may be necessary now as they are always making changes. Check the various websites and countries of interest for more information.

As for Europe I found Denmark to be the most favorable European country for Americans to live in as Danes generally have a positive attitude towards our country. Danes enjoy speaking English. Rebild Bakker in western Denmark is the only country outside of The U.S.A. that has an Independence Day Celebration with many US dignitaries, Danish Royalty, Danish-Americans in attendance with military bands stationed in Germany as entertainment. You’ll enjoy 6 weeks vacation annually with your employer paying you to take vacation. Minimum wage is equivalent to about US$16-17 hourly. The negative about Denmark is high taxation, high v.a.t. but there is cradle to grave health care. I must re-confirm you buy one car but pay for three through 160% excise tax on vehicles for private use. Trade-in values are the highest on the planet. After two years of driving a BMW I got 86% of the new car price trading in.

Most Danish girls and women are naturally blonde or platinum blonde being physically fit. Unfortunately some are getting heavier now because of diet.

Australiasucks
07-11-10, 21:26
Cost of Living makes it difficult to stay in California but weather wise it can't be any more perfect. A similar climate in Europe means Spain, Portugal or at the very least Southern France. My problem with more tropical climates is it seems it can rain at any given moment and it tends to flood more, especially in places where the infrastructure hasn't caught up to 1st Nation status. Seems the richer Asian countries have done more to prevent widespread flooding.

P.I doesn't interest me that much either, plenty of them already in the LA area. A majority of them are dark and short. This can be good, but generally its bad. One of my good friends is Thai and I tend to share his preferences for Asian women. There are few Eurasians (and Afro-Asians) running around those, so one never knows.Having spent a month in Europe, I now understand what some European expats in Australia feel about Europe, quality of life in Australia is way better by a long margin. The east coast of Australia is a lot of like California when it was a good place to live. I know some Californians who think Oz reminds them of California in a better time. European women are not as attractive as they used to be, women are getting fatter as the diets of people get worse.

Australiasucks
07-12-10, 03:30
As soon as I started to read this article I also started to laugh.

It was obvious from the very beginning that the guy writing this is in love with nanny state type big government. He thinks other people should pay for his health care and that the government should force his employer to give him as much time off as he wants because he hates or hated his jobs (and was paid poorly) and doesn't have the stones to go out and make it on his own. He hates free enterprise and capitalism.

America isn't perfect. But what makes America great is the individual, not the government. It's the entrepreneurial spirit (American Dream). It is still alive and well. You can be a bum in the street one day and rich the next or vice versa. Yes, it takes some cash to live well here. As it does in most developed countries. The happy people from other parts of the world he speaks of I bet are well off too.

I used to work for a large international consulting company and had the benefit of living and traveling internationally for years. They are a lot of wonderful countries, people and cultures out there. Some may do SOME things better than the USA all have pluses and minuses. Including the USA

But at the end of the day I am not trading my passport in for one from another country. And I would go "all in" on the USA before I would any other country.

This guy is a bitter loser.I completely disagree, America used to be a free country with boundless opportunity but over the past decade its become an oligarchy, the most glaring evidence is the Wall Street bailouts, the Federal government of the US gave billions to bail out the very companies that caused the financial crisis, many of the employees and execs walked away scott free and got their big bonuses, middle America meanwhile collapsed and suffered for these rich elites, many people have lost their jobs and homes. The American middle class is being roasted on the BBQ. That is not the America I remember, it used to be a country where honest hard work would get you rich, but today it crony capitalism. Australia today is a lot like the US when it was good, people are optimistic, open to new ideas and immigrants are generally seen as a good thing, and the average person has a chance at a good life if she or he works for it. America is no longer like that, Europe is slowly going in that direction as well but Europe is still nowhere near as bad as the USA for the everyday fella.

Jon32
07-12-10, 06:35
http://americathegrimtruth.wordpress.com

Awesome. Agree with a lot that he said but some for different reasons. Most Americans don't know the wool is being pulled over their eyes because they never had the chance to leave and live somewhere else for more than 5 days.

Dickhead
07-12-10, 17:21
Luxembourg to me is more like a very irrelevant state such as North Dakota or Delaware. It doesn't really make the grade as a country. Name one person from Luxembourg. Just one. How can I take a country seriously when I go through it 15 times on the train without ever even meeting anyone who was from there? I was in the bar car on the Thalys train and I asked everyone in there if they were from Luxembourg while we were going through there. No. In fact I was ready to conclude the country was purely imaginary until finally I got off the train, walked around and had a beer, and got on the next train 45 minutes late. So I guess it exists, but that is all that it does. It exists.

Supposedly it has the highest per capita income in the world but so what? Has anybody fucked a hooker from Luxembourg? I mean, I have fucked hookers from Nevis and Antigua and Moldova and Malawi and all kinds of places but never Luxembourg.

I think that country is just a rumor.

Bango Cheito
07-12-10, 19:12
As soon as I started to read this article I also started to laugh.

It was obvious from the very beginning that the guy writing this is in love with nanny state type big government. He thinks other people should pay for his health care and that the government should force his employer to give him as much time off as he wants because he hates or hated his jobs (and was paid poorly) and doesn't have the stones to go out and make it on his own. He hates free enterprise and capitalism.

America isn't perfect. But what makes America great is the individual, not the government. It's the entrepreneurial spirit (American Dream). It is still alive and well. You can be a bum in the street one day and rich the next or vice versa. Yes, it takes some cash to live well here. As it does in most developed countries. The happy people from other parts of the world he speaks of I bet are well off too.

I used to work for a large international consulting company and had the benefit of living and traveling internationally for years. They are a lot of wonderful countries, people and cultures out there. Some may do SOME things better than the USA all have pluses and minuses. Including the USA

But at the end of the day I am not trading my passport in for one from another country. And I would go "all in" on the USA before I would any other country.

This guy is a bitter loser.

This is no longer true. If you're a bum in America NOW there is NO WAY you're gonna get rich. You will probably stay a bum for life. If there ever was a time where this was true, it's certainly not the case now.

The REAL money in America has always been in a few closely guarded industries here, oil and steel and a couple others. All the rest of us are just getting the crumbs that fall from the table. But at least back in the day they let enough money get out of the little circle and into the middle and lower classes.

Dickhead
07-12-10, 23:50
Yeah, you look at your modern day Horatio Algers such as Bill Gates and Michael Dell and they are from rich families and grew up with all the advantages thereof. For every Bill Gates there are 100,000 Marcus Washington broke dick mutha fuckas out there just trying to get by. At least in my current country you have a constitutional right to sleep in the doorway of a closed business, and there aren't little dickheads running around setting you on fire for kicks and shit.

Not to change the subject, but I mentioned I have to go back (soon) to the Bad Place for a while to clock some presidents. And, I have been gone a long time. Yesterday a friend from the states told me that there is a glut of (good) marijuana in the Bad Place now and that prices are dropping. Is this true or is he jerking my chain?

Nyc Expat
07-13-10, 03:15
Has anybody fucked a hooker from Luxembourg? I mean, I have fucked hookers from Nevis and Antigua and Moldova and Malawi and all kinds of places but never Luxembourg.

Has anybody ever fucked or even met a female from Liechtenstein?

Australiasucks
07-13-10, 15:02
Luxembourg to me is more like a very irrelevant state such as North Dakota or Delaware. It doesn't really make the grade as a country. Name one person from Luxembourg. Just one. How can I take a country seriously when I go through it 15 times on the train without ever even meeting anyone who was from there? I was in the bar car on the Thalys train and I asked everyone in there if they were from Luxembourg while we were going through there. No. In fact I was ready to conclude the country was purely imaginary until finally I got off the train, walked around and had a beer, and got on the next train 45 minutes late. So I guess it exists, but that is all that it does. It exists.

Supposedly it has the highest per capita income in the world but so what? Has anybody fucked a hooker from Luxembourg? I mean, I have fucked hookers from Nevis and Antigua and Moldova and Malawi and all kinds of places but never Luxembourg.

I think that country is just a rumor.Countries like Luxembourg and Norway have a high per capita income but have tiny populations. If you look at Qatar and the UAE, their per capita incomes are off the charts, especially compared to their neighbors.

Lichtenstein has less than 40,000 people but is considered to have the highest per capita income, higher than Luxembourg.

Australiasucks
07-13-10, 21:40
That being said I think America of all the developed nations has the worst quality of life and standard of living for the masses. Its only the wealthy upper percentile that is better off in America. I am not saying this out of my ass either, I actually lived in the US for nearly a decade from the 1990s to 2002, visited several times on occasion only to see things go from bad to worse. While Australia is not perfect either, I have to say I am happy as heck that I live in Oz. Although I disagree with that blog, Canada, I think is only slightly better than the US, and really only Quebec, the rest of Canada is a sex prison like the USA, brothels and other things are completely illegal, Anglo Canadian women are just as cold as their American counterparts. Aussie women can be bad too but still a lot better than what North America is stuck with these days and anyhow the last several years have seen a huge influx of immigrants so its easy for me to avoid Aussies.

DJ FourMoney
07-14-10, 01:22
As soon as I started to read this article I also started to laugh.

It was obvious from the very beginning that the guy writing this is in love with nanny state type big government. He thinks other people should pay for his health care and that the government should force his employer to give him as much time off as he wants because he hates or hated his jobs (and was paid poorly) and doesn't have the stones to go out and make it on his own. He hates free enterprise and capitalism.

America isn't perfect. But what makes America great is the individual, not the government. It's the entrepreneurial spirit (American Dream). It is still alive and well. You can be a bum in the street one day and rich the next or vice versa. Yes, it takes some cash to live well here. As it does in most developed countries. The happy people from other parts of the world he speaks of I bet are well off too.

I used to work for a large international consulting company and had the benefit of living and traveling internationally for years. They are a lot of wonderful countries, people and cultures out there. Some may do SOME things better than the USA all have pluses and minuses. Including the USA

But at the end of the day I am not trading my passport in for one from another country. And I would go "all in" on the USA before I would any other country.

This guy is a bitter loser.

I guess that makes me a bit of a looser then I guess. Then I have the double wammie of being Black.

Not everybody in Europe is well-off and happy. There are plenty making a decent amount even struggling to a point and generally happy. America is screwed up socially and people with your attitude believe that people should earn everything they get which is fine if there wasn't Crony Capitalism and a Corporate Welfare State.

You can't have it both ways. You also just attacked the guy's blog post without identifying that we are continuing to: reduce manufacturing, rising debt, outsourcing war making, unpopular wars, spiraling health care cost (impacting small businesses the most), mass unemployment, overpopulation, job outsourcing, technological giveaways, lax regulation and quasi-police state with an unstable racial divide.

Oh yeah America is great

DJ FourMoney
07-14-10, 01:25
Having spent a month in Europe, I now understand what some European expats in Australia feel about Europe, quality of life in Australia is way better by a long margin. The east coast of Australia is a lot of like California when it was a good place to live. I know some Californians who think Oz reminds them of California in a better time. European women are not as attractive as they used to be, women are getting fatter as the diets of people get worse.

Yeah they are getting fatter, but differences in society and culture makes them better to deal with IMHO. I've just had better success and I'm constantly running into the same argument with AW - How much are you worth and can you afford me?

DJ FourMoney
07-14-10, 01:30
Has anybody ever fucked or even met a female from Liechtenstein?

I can say I have never met anybody from either country, Globe Trekker visited Luxembourg and said it was fun, maybe you need to go through there at night?

Dickhead
07-14-10, 02:26
Maybe Luxembourg would be better at night but the Thalys train does not run at night. As far as I can determine, the only reason one would ever be in Luxembourg is because the train goes through there from Paris to Amsterdam. Liechtenstein has some famous skiers from there, won some Olympic medals. But I don't know if it is really a sovereign nation. They use the Swiss franc and have no military. It is a tax haven, as opposed to Luxembourg, which has very high taxes.

What about this AW that fucked her biological son she had given up for adoption? How fucked up is that?

Member #2041
07-14-10, 07:26
Has anybody ever fucked or even met a female from Liechtenstein?
I once met a professional skier from there at the Lake Placid Olympics - she's actually a famous Multiple Gold Medalist named Hanni Wenzel. Her thighs were each bigger than my waist at the time, although my waistline has expanded considerably in the past 30 years. Didn't fuck her, but I did get her autograph.

BTW, she and her brother Andreas are responsible for the fact that Liechtenstein has the highest per-capita ratio of Olympic medals of any nation on the planet. 9 medals overall for a population of 35,000 - all in skiing, with the Wenzels accounting for 6 of those Olympic medals.

DJ FourMoney
07-14-10, 07:33
Maybe Luxembourg would be better at night but the Thalys train does not run at night. As far as I can determine, the only reason one would ever be in Luxembourg is because the train goes through there from Paris to Amsterdam. Liechtenstein has some famous skiers from there, won some Olympic medals. But I don't know if it is really a sovereign nation. They use the Swiss franc and have no military. It is a tax haven, as opposed to Luxembourg, which has very high taxes.

What about this AW that fucked her biological son she had given up for adoption? How fucked up is that?

WTF? I was like naaa then a quick Google search netted what you are saying...

Wow, gave him up at Age 5, found him on Facebook, banged him.

Married too and has other children.

Australiasucks
07-14-10, 14:40
Yeah they are getting fatter, but differences in society and culture makes them better to deal with IMHO. I've just had better success and I'm constantly running into the same argument with AW - How much are you worth and can you afford me?They are also developing the same attitude as American women, after 8 years of the Euro, its all about the money there, its rapidly Americanizing, and I saw something sacrilegious there, Dunkin Donuts popping up all over the place. Honestly there is very little difference between European and American society now. Europe is becoming as degenerate as America these days, maybe not as violent but definitely going the way of degeneracy. The whole of Dusseldorf and Cologne felt a lot like the ghetto areas of Sydney. I have to say this kind of behavior in Australia is still relegated to the lower classes. Honestly Asia is a lot better these days. Modern Asian girls blow away the best of Europe any day of the week. I decided never to go to Europe any more.

Another big problem I have these days with European women is BO and hygiene, some just stink, many just cover themselves up with perfume. I have been with many Asian women and never had to deal with BO. With the population density there, why do so many people not bother to shower? Its disgusting to smell their body odor.

D Cups
07-14-10, 15:08
After 20+ years of living in the cereal state I have made the following conclusions about CW, that unique subset of AW. There are really five types of California Women:

A. Flakes (unreliable and undependable)
B. Fruits (growing abundance of lesbian ball-busters)
C. Nuts (menopausal psychotics and other ball-busting bitches)
D. Golddiggers (hell, these are the original California Women, alive and well today).
E. Other (that rare breed as Neil Young says looking for a heart of gold and I'm gettin old)

Thoughts?

Westy
07-14-10, 15:19
After 20+ years of living in the cereal state I have made the following conclusions about CW, that unique subset of AW. There are really five types of California Women:

A. Flakes (unreliable and undependable)
B. Fruits (growing abundance of lesbian ball-busters)
C. Nuts (menopausal psychotics and other ball-busting bitches)
D. Golddiggers (hell, these are the original California Women, alive and well today).
E. Other (that rare breed as Neil Young says looking for a heart of gold and I'm gettin old)

Thoughts?
Flakes, fruits & nuts? It sounds like a breakfast cereal for Euell Gibbons.

The cereal mix might be good. The sexual mix? Homey don't play dat.

By the way, are you referring to California when you say "the cereal state"? Shouldn't that be "the surreal state" - or does that refer only to San Francisco and south along the coast?

Dickhead
07-14-10, 16:44
Did you hear about the new cereal, "Prosti-Tootis"? They don't snap, crackle, or pop; they just lie on the bottom and bang, bang, bang.

DJ FourMoney
07-15-10, 03:45
After 20+ years of living in the cereal state I have made the following conclusions about CW, that unique subset of AW. There are really five types of California Women:

A. Flakes (unreliable and undependable)
B. Fruits (growing abundance of lesbian ball-busters)
C. Nuts (menopausal psychotics and other ball-busting bitches)
D. Golddiggers (hell, these are the original California Women, alive and well today).
E. Other (that rare breed as Neil Young says looking for a heart of gold and I'm gettin old)

Thoughts?

I'd agree... 100% this is generally what your dealing with in the Bay Area, Los Angeles and San Diego. Less so in the middle and past Sacramento.

Australiasucks
07-15-10, 16:30
Flakes, fruits & nuts? It sounds like a breakfast cereal for Euell Gibbons.

The cereal mix might be good. The sexual mix? Homey don't play dat.

By the way, are you referring to California when you say "the cereal state"? Shouldn't that be "the surreal state" - or does that refer only to San Francisco and south along the coast?The irony is that California girls are actually the easiest of AWs, maybe some depressed parts of the Midwest, girls are easy too. East coast girls are the hardest nose AWs out there.

Fox7717
07-15-10, 18:40
There is no porn thread, so this will just have to do...

In many porn films the men often have (of course) huge dicks, but no balls it seems? WTF is all that about? Does having your nuts removed make yer dick bigger or something LoL If so, I think I'll still give it a miss HaHa

Please explain...

Cheers


Fox7717

Fox7717
07-15-10, 18:53
...I thought this forum was about fucking not politics etc?

Anyhoo he says, I read that c70% of American earn less than $30k or c£20k

If so, no wonder most have a terrible quality of life and a couple of jobs when for example healthcare is so expensive! I have enjoyed lots of visists to the states but would never want to live there. Americans are brainwashed from birth that the US has the best of everything. Get out more! 90% do not have Passports. The best 'Yanks' by far as those who have travelled and seen something of the World, like our friend DJ FTM below for example.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers


Fox7717

Jon32
07-15-10, 19:50
Americans are brainwashed from birth that the US has the best of everything.

Agree with the brainwashing.


Get out more! 90% do not have Passports.


I always said if Americans left they would really know what kind of country they live in....now I have a statistic to back that up.

Dickhead
07-15-10, 21:05
I don't think DJFTM travels that much. I think he went to Europe once or twice and has been whacking off thinking about it ever since. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Dickhead
07-15-10, 21:11
now I have a statistic to back that up.

No, now you have a mere, unsupported contention, which on further investigation is bunk:

http://www.gyford.com/phil/writing/2003/01/31/how_many_america.php

or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_documents_in_the_United_States

Fox7717
07-15-10, 21:42
Are you suggesting Wikipedia is accurate?

It does not matter anyway if 10% or 20% as most Americans travel very little, if at all, aside from maybe the 'holiday of a lifetime' to 'do' Europe in a week. (I've met them) Hell they cannot even say the places properly. Moss-cow or Eye-rack or Eye-ran

And, the brianwashing holds true and average earnings are very low etc.

SO more importantly, why do so many pornstars apparently have no nuts?

Bango Cheito
07-15-10, 21:45
Are you suggesting Wikipedia is accurate?

It does not matter anyway if 10% or 20% as most Americans travel very little, if at all, aside from maybe the 'holiday of a lifetime' to 'do' Europe in a week. (I've met them) Hell they cannot even say the places properly. Moss-cow or Eye-rack or Eye-ran

And, the brianwashing holds true and average earnings are very low etc.

SO more importantly, why do so many pornstars apparently have no nuts?

Just camera angles.....

Dickhead
07-15-10, 22:03
I'm suggesting that those bullshit numbers like 7% and 10% might have been true at one time, but the portion of Americans with passports has risen because

1) Globalization
2) The need for a passport to go to the US or Canada
3) Fear of worst-case scenario and desire to be prepared to flee

with #3 being the one I stress to my friends in the Yew Ess who don't have passports. It also comes in handy if you lose your wallet. Among the advantages of using a passport as ID is that it doesn't have your address on it. In fact I might get one of the passport cards even though I have a regular passport, just to use as ID in certain situations.

Now getting back to pussy. Having lived for a year in a house that was regularly rented out for porno shoots, I can assure you up close and personal those guys have balls. However, it is possible to tuck one's testicles up into the inguinal canal, which I think sumo wrestlers do. I don't plan on trying it.

And yes, I did fuck a couple of the "artists," including one whose name escapes me now, who became somewhat famous. Aside from the artists there were also "fluffers" who could be had, as well as some groupies/campfollowers and a few just plain hos floating around at the shoots.

Fox7717
07-16-10, 00:44
Don't think it's the 'camera angles' plus the camera is VERY close usually.

Also don't think these guys 'tuck their balls' somewhere north in inguinal canal

Still a mystery!

Dickhead
07-16-10, 01:48
Well, if you are that concerned about the guys' balls when you watch porn, you are probably on the wrong forum, to say the very least.

Australiasucks
07-16-10, 02:35
I thought this forum was about fucking not politics etc?

Anyhoo he says, I read that c70% of American earn less than $30k or c£20k

If so, no wonder most have a terrible quality of life and a couple of jobs when for example healthcare is so expensive! I have enjoyed lots of visists to the states but would never want to live there. Americans are brainwashed from birth that the US has the best of everything. Get out more! 90% do not have Passports. The best 'Yanks' by far as those who have travelled and seen something of the World, like our friend DJ FTM below for example.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers

Fox7717A lot of younger Aussies have some weird obsession with America but having spent time and seeing the reality America only looks good compared to a third world country. America compared to other first world nations has a lower standard of living for the vast majority of Americans. I think the average income in the US is a bit higher than that, its more like $36k a year, which is still low, in Australia its $50k a year, and probably similar in richer EU countries. There is a lot of income inequality and despite the economic downturn big execs earn more today in the US than ever before.

Jon32
07-16-10, 05:06
Now getting back to pussy. Having lived for a year in a house that was regularly rented out for porno shoots, I can assure you up close and personal those guys have balls. However, it is possible to tuck one's testicles up into the inguinal canal, which I think sumo wrestlers do. I don't plan on trying it.

And yes, I did fuck a couple of the "artists," including one whose name escapes me now, who became somewhat famous. Aside from the artists there were also "fluffers" who could be had, as well as some groupies/campfollowers and a few just plain hos floating around at the shoots.


Where the hell was this house. Sounds like the perfect house I should have lived in back in college, but will settle for now lol

Fox7717
07-16-10, 18:44
...I did say I'm JUST CURIOUS the no nuts thing!!

You sound like you are in or know people in the Porn industry and so will know?


All agreed 'Australiasucks' so why use this name?

Goga Fung
07-16-10, 21:17
. I did say I'm JUST CURIOUS the no nuts thing!

You sound like you are in or know people in the Porn industry and so will know?

All agreed 'Australiasucks' so why use this name?But this forum/thread is to discuss women/AW. If men have nothing else to discuss except other guy's balls, then no wonder we are getting more and more AW-like women. We deserve it.

Anyways, there is a EE guy in his late 50s is going to bring to USA a 30something(looks like 20+) incredibly hot girl from Ukraine.

What do you think, can it last long once she gets to USA? Right now she seems really into him, can chat for hours on the internet.

I've heard too many stories that it starts like that, but then it changes once she has arrived and get her documents.

Westy
07-17-10, 16:16
... there is a EE guy in his late 50s is going to bring to USA a 30something (looks like 20+) incredibly hot girl from Ukraine.

What do you think, can it last long once she gets to USA? Right now she seems really into him, can chat for hours on the internet.

I've heard too many stories that it starts like that, but then it changes once she has arrived and get her documents.
I have my doubts. What will she do when she gets to this "Land of Opportunity"? She's likely to pick up the AW ways of controlling her man. She's likely to recognize that she can trade in her sugar-daddy for a younger, cuter, and maybe even wealthier model. She's likely to learn - and learn fast - that she can take most of Mr. Sugar-Daddy's sugar with her, when she does dump him. And she's sure to hear the advertisements "If you've got a phone, you've got a lawyer!"

For his sake, I hope it will be "Happily Ever After." But I wouldn't bet on it. I think DCups has it right, if she does stick around it won't be pleasant.

My hope is to move offshore, live on my pension, live WAY within my means and buy my pleasures with the money left over.

Booey
07-17-10, 17:02
She will quickly become Americanized and spoiled rotten. I have a good friend in the financial industry (my age 54) who married a cute little busty Russian chick in her 20s and they have 3 kids. He bought her a mercedes benz for her birthday. Her reaction? "Why didn't you get the bigger model"? I shit you not, that's what she said. The little ***** has never worked a day in her life(besides raising kids) and doesn't even put out any more according to my buddy. Sad shit indeed.

He says bring one back on fiance visa, bang it every night for six months and then send her back home to the motherland.

I have to agree with you 100%. The only thing I would add is that many of these girls don't need to learn the ways of the AW. From what I have seen and heard, I think many of these women have a plan to screw a guy over from the day they put a profile up on the internet.

Btw, I like the fiancé visa idea!

Member #2041
07-17-10, 17:33
I have to agree with you 100%. The only thing I would add is that many of these girls don't need to learn the ways of the AW. From what I have seen and heard, I think many of these women have a plan to screw a guy over from the day they put a profile up on the internet.

Btw, I like the fiancé visa idea!
Biggest problem is, if she's good at her game, and he's not extremely savvy to it, she'll have him thinking he's in love during those 6 months, and he'll get roped into keeping her until she's completed the kill. A lot of the guys who fall for this are nerdy types who have not had many real relationships under their belt - especially with hot chicks who are used to manipulating guys, and they are overmatched.

Booey
07-17-10, 17:57
Biggest problem is, if she's good at her game, and he's not extremely savvy to it, she'll have him thinking he's in love during those 6 months, and he'll get roped into keeping her until she's completed the kill. A lot of the guys who fall for this are nerdy types who have not had many real relationships under their belt - especially with hot chicks who are used to manipulating guys, and they are overmatched.

You're right about that. I was really only thinking about our somewhat cynical ISG community here. I would like to think that most ISG'ers could pull off the fiancé visa trick. I would certainly check out the visa rules before attempting it though. I have heard that in some countries if the woman claims abuse then she can continue with the visa application regardless if she is with you or not. I don't know if this only applies to a spousal visa and not a fiancé visa though. Certainly don't want trumped up charges of abuse being brought against me!

Anyhow, I think I'd rather jump on a plane and go mongering, rather than dealing with and/or supporting some woman for six months! More variety and less expensive in the long run, imho.

Dickhead
07-17-10, 23:32
. I think the average income in the US is a bit higher than that, its more like $36k a year, which is still low, in Australia its $50k a year

$50k US or $50k Aussie? Because they are about the same thing. The 2006 version of The Economist's "Pocket World in Figures" gives US per capita GDP (not the same as income but probably a better indicator of living standard) as $37,240 USD per year, the sixth-highest in the world, vs. Australia at $26,250, #21 in the world. US is third in purchasing power while Australia is 13th.

Dickhead
07-17-10, 23:34
Where the hell was this house. Sounds like the perfect house I should have lived in back in college, but will settle for now lol

Here in Buenos Aires. It was actually more of a pain in the ass than an advantage, but it had its moments.

Booey
07-18-10, 03:07
Yes, Booey, even six months with the same conniving broad is way too long for the sexually savvy monger :). Better to mongerwander in foreign lands than to experience the inevitable intense drama and non-stop crying after six months with some sexy east european babe.

I've always subscribed to the theory that, "no matter how good looking the woman, there is always some guy out there who is sick of fucking her!"

I need variety, so what if I am a selfish bastard. I want what I want!

Westy
07-18-10, 03:34
I've always subscribed to the theory that, "no matter how good looking the woman, there is always some guy out there who is sick of fucking her!"
All too true. Or sick of dealing with her drama, or paying for her follies, or the like.

I guess living my life in the Supermax of Sex Prison (Washington, DC) has me very cynical and not-just-a-little paranoid of non-pro game. I've also seen my share of "Senorita Cartaverde," girls interested in me for the sake of getting a fast-track into the USA - and heard enough horror stories from my friends who got stung by the same.

Perhaps I'd look for "something serious" if I were living, say, in South America; somewhere that my money goes far enough that I could afford to be a sugar-daddy. "Listen, Conchita, we can have this good life here, but I couldn't afford to keep you this way back in the States. If you don't like that, go find someone else - and on your way out, send up that cute chica in the pink bikini, out there on the beach."

(Yeah, I know. That "pink bikini" phrase might get me into the Montevideo newspapers, as the founder of the Pocitos Flying Club.)

Meanwhile, I can make the occasional trip down South; but I am not bringing anyone home to the States with me. Period.

Dickhead
07-18-10, 05:48
A technique that has served me well is to not only live in a South American country, but live in one whose citizens are extremely unwelcome in the United States. Thus when they suggest marrying me so they can get my pension when I die, I reply that the marriage would not be recognized (true). When they suggest the fiance visa I tell them a) I will not be financially responsible for their civil and criminal acts and b) the visa will be denied anyway (true). Then they say they will get a tourist visa if I will take them to the US and I say fine, you show me the visa and then I will buy the tickets. Then they ask me if I will pay for the visa and I say no, because the application will just get denied (true).

I think any rational person who carefully reads the obligations he is taking on in going the fiance visa route, would think twice, and then three times, and then four times before doing such a thing. She disappears and robs a bank you are on the hook. She deals drugs you are on the hook. And etc. etc.

I know your sweet little baboo would never do any of those things but maybe some ho would do those things. And maybe your sweet baboo is actually just some ho.

It is much better for Mohammed to go to the mountain than for the mountain to come to Mohammed, if you get my drift.

Australiasucks
07-18-10, 06:22
But this forum/thread is to discuss women/AW. If men have nothing else to discuss except other guy's balls, then no wonder we are getting more and more AW-like women. We deserve it.

Anyways, there is a EE guy in his late 50s is going to bring to USA a 30something(looks like 20+) incredibly hot girl from Ukraine.

What do you think, can it last long once she gets to USA? Right now she seems really into him, can chat for hours on the internet.

I've heard too many stories that it starts like that, but then it changes once she has arrived and get her documents.No way in hell, Eastern Europeans are the ones most likely to Westernize and change. Latinas are pretty close behind. Of all the foreign girls, its Asians who tend to be more honest. I have a lot of friends who married foreign women, several married EEs and got screwed over royally. European girls are good for STR, I would never in hell marry one. Asian women on the other hand are more sincere even those from wealthier parts of Asia. One of my friends married a Japanese girl, and he wound up moving to Japan because she wanted him in her country, so it was clear she was not trying to get a visa from him.

Kngdf5
07-18-10, 08:50
A technique that has served me well is to not only live in a South American country, but live in one whose citizens are extremely unwelcome in the United States.I didn't know there were "unwelcome citizen" countries. For example, what countries?

Dickhead
07-19-10, 17:08
I live in Argentina. Argentineans used to be able to visit the US without even a visa. Then Argentina defaulted on its sovereign debt and ever since then, Argentineans need visas. And, these visa requests are routinely denied. I don't know of any Argentinean who's been able to get a tourist visa since the default. I know a few who have gotten sponsored work visas.

Other countries whose citizens are unwelcome in the US includes Cuba for Christ's sakes. You should get out more, maybe do a little reading.

Jon32
07-19-10, 18:23
Other countries whose citizens are unwelcome in the US includes Cuba for Christ's sakes. You should get out more, maybe do a little reading.

I always thought Cuba had the potential to become such a great place to live. Caribbean, tanned latinas, beaches.... to bad the government is such a wreck.

Rock Harders
07-19-10, 22:31
Dickhead-
Actually, according to a friend of mine who works at the US Embassy in Buenos Aires, 87% of Argentine citizens applying for Tourist Visas at the US Embassy in Buenos Aires are approved.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Dickhead
07-19-10, 22:44
Honestly, I wouldn't believe that number even if it came from an official source. But anyway I am talking about getting an unmarried woman who owns no property a visa, which would be the situation we mongers would be looking at. I know a monger whose job it was to approve tourist visas and he (almost) never did for single women because if they WERE to get busted for hooking in the US, it would have been bad for his career. I've known probably ten or twelve guys who've tried to get a visa for an Argentinean woman, and zero have gotten them. Some were hookers and some weren't but most had some semblance of a regular job. Maybe if they owned property it would be different.

Kngdf5
07-20-10, 09:32
I live in Argentina. Argentineans used to be able to visit the US without even a visa. Then Argentina defaulted on its sovereign debt and ever since then, Argentineans need visas. And, these visa requests are routinely denied. I don't know of any Argentinean who's been able to get a tourist visa since the default. I know a few who have gotten sponsored work visas.

Other countries whose citizens are unwelcome in the US includes Cuba for Christ's sakes. You should get out more, maybe do a little reading.Actually, Cubans have the mystical "touch U.S. soil and get permanent residency" rule.

I know there are plenty of unwelcome countries, but "Dickhead" was saying that even fiance visas and marriages would be rejected. The U.S. makes people jump through hoops, especially for "unwelcome countries", but a legit marriage is not rejected, as far as I know.

DJ FourMoney
07-21-10, 05:23
I don't think DJFTM travels that much. I think he went to Europe once or twice and has been whacking off thinking about it ever since. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Gee thanks... I've been down in Mexico a few times, Canada a few times, all the lower 48 (used to drive Trucks) and yes I've been mmm through Europe. Just once, but I spent the better part of 30 days in Europe.

When I came back, basically my life went down hill and I wasn't completely prepared for it.

If I sold everything I got, I might have enough for RT ticket and some spending cash, but why should I do that?

DJ FourMoney
07-21-10, 05:30
Don't think it's the 'camera angles' plus the camera is VERY close usually.

Also don't think these guys 'tuck their balls' somewhere north in inguinal canal

Still a mystery!

Dude I live in Porn Valley, its CAMERA ANGLES.

You can bag a porno chick I just don't recommend it. Porn chicks outside of America might be a different story since views about sex outside of Prison are varied if not downright liberal.

DJ FourMoney
07-21-10, 05:41
A lot of younger Aussies have some weird obsession with America but having spent time and seeing the reality America only looks good compared to a third world country. America compared to other first world nations has a lower standard of living for the vast majority of Americans. I think the average income in the US is a bit higher than that, its more like $36k a year, which is still low, in Australia its $50k a year, and probably similar in richer EU countries. There is a lot of income inequality and despite the economic downturn big execs earn more today in the US than ever before.

Average income depends on location but its roughly around $36K, its $52K in California. You are correct about the income disparity top 2% own 98% of the total wealth and 4% earn more than the bottom 90% combined.

Its a return of the robber barons, feudalism or any other analogy you can think of for a shrinking or genocide of the Middle Class.

Real unemployment is 17-18%, its over 20% in major metropolitan areas and in some minority dominated areas is at least 50% and been that way since the middle part of the decade actually.

As much as they don't want to hear it, we will have a double deep recession. All the major banks are still holding on to far too many toxic assets.

It might too early to say this, but even if things turned positive tomorrow, it would be 2015 or so before we're back to "normal" consumption levels.

Everyday they fool around with mickey mouse reform it just delays recovery and this has all the makings of a the same lost decade that Japan experienced in the 90's.

Australiasucks
07-21-10, 05:44
I could easily think of several dozen countries whose citizens would have a heck of a time with US immigration. Even if a citizen of that country were to marry a US citizen spouse, the immigration authorities would make them jump through hoops. However I have heard of citizens from countries seen as friendly with the US have a hell of a time too. An British friend of mine told me about a really bad experience in LAX where he was mistaken for bank robber from San Diego, I knew another friend who said the INS was pretty nasty with his wife who is Italian.

The real issue is that if that certain someone is a bit too eager to go home with you, they probably are just using you for a visa. I know as a legal resident of Australia, which is a highly sought country for immigrants, I get a lot of attention from foreign girls, but know better than to get used.

Australiasucks
07-21-10, 06:02
Average income depends on location but its roughly around $36K, its $52K in California. You are correct about the income disparity top 2% own 98% of the total wealth and 4% earn more than the bottom 90% combined.

Its a return of the robber barons, feudalism or any other analogy you can think of for a shrinking or genocide of the Middle Class.

Real unemployment is 17-18%, its over 20% in major metropolitan areas and in some minority dominated areas is at least 50% and been that way since the middle part of the decade actually.

As much as they don't want to hear it, we will have a double deep recession. All the major banks are still holding on to far too many toxic assets.

It might too early to say this, but even if things turned positive tomorrow, it would be 2015 or so before we're back to "normal" consumption levels.

Everyday they fool around with mickey mouse reform it just delays recovery and this has all the makings of a the same lost decade that Japan experienced in the 90's.I have a friend who works in real estate over there, he bluntly told me he does not expect a robust return to economic growth until 2016 or even later.
Average American salaries have taken a big hit from the 90s when it was easy to find a high paying job.

The US per capita GDP is around 46k a year but the mean salary is only 35k, tells you something, the distribution of income is very unequal in the US. Australian per capita GDP is around the same as the US estimate but the average income is higher which means there is more equal distribution of income.

Unemployment in Australia is only 5 percent and its a realistic number because Australia tracks its unemployed more thoroughly than the US. US unemployment benefits dry up after 6 months and then anyone who does not find a job after that is not counted anymore.

Also this development does not bode well for the political situation within the US.

DJ FourMoney
07-21-10, 06:10
You're right about that. I was really only thinking about our somewhat cynical ISG community here. I would like to think that most ISG'ers could pull off the fiancé visa trick. I would certainly check out the visa rules before attempting it though. I have heard that in some countries if the woman claims abuse then she can continue with the visa application regardless if she is with you or not. I don't know if this only applies to a spousal visa and not a fiancé visa though. Certainly don't want trumped up charges of abuse being brought against me!

Anyhow, I think I'd rather jump on a plane and go mongering, rather than dealing with and/or supporting some woman for six months! More variety and less expensive in the long run, imho.

ISG is quite cynical if not over the top cynical. Of course what do you expect from men that have been burned in divorce court before? I don't expect them to be gleeful about it.

But saying all women are rotten gold-digging tramps is a bit extreme. I would have not come to the conclusion I have come to without some experience, so here goes.

Depending on how you wanna look at it, the salad days of Eastern Europe are long gone. Western style Capitalism has given people in those countries more opportunity. The women are not desperate to leave (based on economics only), but since women heavily out number men in much Russia and Ukraine the likelihood of finding a person that wants what you want (husband, decent life and children) isn't very high. So they are willing to consider a man from someplace else.

Some want to remain close to home (Europe) and have no interest in Canadian or American men. Others are open minded, others like American culture (the idealized America you find on TV and Movies).

So if your willing to put in the effort and spend the money (not on support, on the K-1 process and all the trips over there) you can find a nice girl for LTR. Some average, some stunning. Not all want a Benz or Bimmer, but if you live that kind of lifestyle, don't be surprised if she asked if why you got the C and not the E. In reality until the current model, the C class had terrible legroom in the back, its a legitimate concern. So it depends on the context on which he's talking about.

There was also a thread in the Ukraine forum that some full-timer that was working in another country (Turkey maybe?) would agree to be his long term GF if he brought her a BMW X5. Like you would expect any less from a attractive woman with no dependents that makes $200-300US per transaction?

If I had listen to some people, I would believe all the stuff you hear about skinheads and xenophobia in Ukraine for example. I didn't and while I only visited one girl and was there for only 2.5 days, I feel (and I did look) if I wanted to go to introduction service (it was closed the one free day I had) I could have and maybe met a few more ladies with serious intentions.

If I called up Larisa today and say pack your shit and Oxana you're coming to America, I doubt she would say no.

I'm being totally superficial but she had a nasty scar on her head from a motorcycle accident, was really average looking and older than I wanted, plus had a child already from her ex.

I want (still want) younger (late 20's vs mid 30's), better than average and no children.

But if the economy and my job opportunities are not going to improve to 2015, it will be awhile before I can pursue what I want and I'm still considering South America as well, so nothing is set in stone.

The cynicism doesn't bother me, I find it kind of funny.

Sprite13
07-22-10, 07:36
This is a funny list I saw on another site. Some of these are so true it made me laugh. Anyways, here it comes.


1. They’re fat.

2. They’re constantly glued to their phone.

3. They cut their hair short.

4. They’re more impressed by a crappy DJ than a doctor who saves lives.

5. They think being funny and witty is a quality that men love.

6. They listen to magazines like Cosmo when it comes to pleasing men.

7. They don’t know how to cook.

8. They wear flip-flops even when they’re not at the beach, pool, or in their house.

9. They have condoms in their drawers because they expect to have random sex with strange men.

10. They cannot dance. They also do not know how to sing or play basic musical instruments.

11. They idolize drug addicted celebrities, mimicking their brain-dead behaviors.

12. They acquire pets instead of putting effort into landing a quality man.

13. They don’t know how to be sexy.

14. They have standards way beyond their level of attractiveness.

15. They think having a good job means they’re a good catch.

16. They wear pajamas in public.

17. They like Twilight and The Secret.

18. Their idea of travel is going to the beach or France.

19. They have too many trashy tattoos.

20. They are proud to date multiple guys at the same time, as if they were men.

21. They are not close to their family, and would rather die than take care of aging parents.

22. They say filthy things in bed when you hardly know them.

23. They cockblock regularly.

24. They make lame excuses for not putting effort into their appearance.

25. They obsess about the environment above what is reasonable, even though they pollute more than 90% of people in the world.

26. They always lie by saying, “I’ve never done this before.”

27. They confuse being a challenge with being whiny and annoying.

28. They are acne prone.

29. They watch way too much TV.

30. On their way home from work, they put on dirty sneakers that don’t match their outfit.

31. They only dress up for special occasions, like a friend’s birthday, Presidential inauguration, or a Sex and the City movie premiere.

32. They like to age their skin prematurely through frequent tanning.

33. They insist on eating pizza or otherwise fattening food after a night of binge drinking.

34. They’re obsessed with cupcakes.

35. They care more about maintaining their career than a good home.

36. They rarely wear high heels.

37. They think dining out and eating food slathered with butter and salt makes them cultured.

38. They don’t speak a foreign language.

39. They are uncomfortable in their own skin.

40. They like Ikea furniture.

41. They have the intellectual curiosity of a dung beetle.

42. They go on and on about the stupidest shit.

D Cups
07-22-10, 15:12
They say filthy things in bed when you hardly know them.

This is the only one on your list that that I like.

You forgot to mention their propensities for incessant meaningless talk about their stupid, selfish feelings; golddigging/materialism/shopping for overpriced meaningless bullshit and being sexually stupid and conservative.

I'm sure other mongers can also add to the list.

The Canadian rock band Guess Who was spot on with their '70's hit "American Woman..stay away from me. AW, mama let me be, don't come knockin around my, door, don't want to see your face no more...

Smart mongers cross borders and oceans to find the fine pussy that the world offers!


This is a funny list I saw on another site. Some of these are so true it made me laugh. Anyways, here it comes.

1. They’re fat.

2. They’re constantly glued to their phone.

3. They cut their hair short.

4. They’re more impressed by a crappy DJ than a doctor who saves lives.

5. They think being funny and witty is a quality that men love.

6. They listen to magazines like Cosmo when it comes to pleasing men.

7. They don’t know how to cook.

8. They wear flip-flops even when they’re not at the beach, pool, or in their house.

9. They have condoms in their drawers because they expect to have random sex with strange men.

10. They cannot dance. They also do not know how to sing or play basic musical instruments.

11. They idolize drug addicted celebrities, mimicking their brain-dead behaviors.

12. They acquire pets instead of putting effort into landing a quality man.

13. They don’t know how to be sexy.

14. They have standards way beyond their level of attractiveness.

15. They think having a good job means they’re a good catch.

16. They wear pajamas in public.

17. They like Twilight and The Secret.

18. Their idea of travel is going to the beach or France.

19. They have too many trashy tattoos.

20. They are proud to date multiple guys at the same time, as if they were men.

21. They are not close to their family, and would rather die than take care of aging parents.

22. They say filthy things in bed when you hardly know them.

23. They cockblock regularly.

24. They make lame excuses for not putting effort into their appearance.

25. They obsess about the environment above what is reasonable, even though they pollute more than 90% of people in the world.

26. They always lie by saying, “I’ve never done this before.”

27. They confuse being a challenge with being whiny and annoying.

28. They are acne prone.

29. They watch way too much TV.

30. On their way home from work, they put on dirty sneakers that don’t match their outfit.

31. They only dress up for special occasions, like a friend’s birthday, Presidential inauguration, or a Sex and the City movie premiere.

32. They like to age their skin prematurely through frequent tanning.

33. They insist on eating pizza or otherwise fattening food after a night of binge drinking.

34. They’re obsessed with cupcakes.

35. They care more about maintaining their career than a good home.

36. They rarely wear high heels.

37. They think dining out and eating food slathered with butter and salt makes them cultured.

38. They don’t speak a foreign language.

39. They are uncomfortable in their own skin.

40. They like Ikea furniture.

41. They have the intellectual curiosity of a dung beetle.

42. They go on and on about the stupidest shit.

Dickhead
07-22-10, 17:47
Actually, Cubans have the mystical "touch U.S. soil and get permanent residency" rule.

I know there are plenty of unwelcome countries, but "Dickhead" was saying that even fiance visas and marriages would be rejected. The U.S. makes people jump through hoops, especially for "unwelcome countries", but a legit marriage is not rejected, as far as I know.

Never, ever did I say that. I was talking strictly about tourist visas. I have no experience with fiance visits since I have never known anyone stupid enough to try to do that.

Dickhead
07-22-10, 17:51
More mistakes courtesy of AustraliaSucks:

1) US unemployment benefits seldom end after six months
2) It's completely false that you are no longer counted as unemployed once the benefits run out, and
3) He is confusing the median with the mean. The mean income is much higher than the median income.

But hey, don't let facts stand in the way of a good story.

Australiasucks
07-22-10, 19:51
More mistakes courtesy of AustraliaSucks:

1) US unemployment benefits seldom end after six months

2) It's completely false that you are no longer counted as unemployed once the benefits run out, and

3) He is confusing the median with the mean. The mean income is much higher than the median income.

But hey, don't let facts stand in the way of a good story.I lived in the US for roughly 10 years so I am familiar with the system there, from what I remember UI runs out after six months, it was 9 months during the time after 9-11.

The US gets its unemployment numbers from the number of people who apply for UI. They do not count people who stopped looking for work and people in prison.

There is a lot of dodgy math involved in US unemployment numbers, the U6 is a more realistic picture of the jobless rate in the US than the official national rate, and its more like 18 percent.

The real unemployment rates in Western Europe, Australia, Canada, etc are more realistic than those in the US. Australia's unemployment rate is 5 percent and the real figure is slightly higher.

Dickhead
07-22-10, 19:57
I lived in the US for roughly 10 years so I am familiar with the system there, from what I remember UI runs out after six months, it was 9 months during the time after 9-11.

It depends on the unemployment rate, and can vary from state to state, but only under very good economic conditions will 26 weeks be the limit.

The US gets its unemployment numbers from the number of people who apply for UI. They do not count people who stopped looking for work and people in prison.

It is true they do not count people who have stopped looking for work, but that doesn't mean that everybody whose UI benefits have run out have stopped looking for work, for chrissakes!

There is a lot of dodgy math involved in US unemployment numbers, the U6 is a more realistic picture of the jobless rate in the US than the official national rate, and its more like 18 percent.

Certainly I agree the US understates its unemployment rate, primarily by counting people who work 1 hour a week as "employed."

The real unemployment rates in Western Europe, Australia, Canada, etc are more realistic than those in the US. Australia's unemployment rate is 5 percent and the real figure is slightly higher.

I agree those countries' rates are more realistic.

Booey
07-22-10, 19:58
More mistakes courtesy of AustraliaSucks:

1) US unemployment benefits seldom end after six months
2) It's completely false that you are no longer counted as unemployed once the benefits run out, and
3) He is confusing the median with the mean. The mean income is much higher than the median income.

But hey, don't let facts stand in the way of a good story.

Here's another one, "Asian women on the other hand are more sincere even those from wealthier parts of Asia. One of my friends married a Japanese girl, and he wound up moving to Japan because she wanted him in her country, so it was clear she was not trying to get a visa from him."

I'm sure I can find a lot of Thai and Phil women who would love to meet him, and then fleece him!

You might find a sincere Asian woman if she is close to your age and socioeconomic status and maybe, just maybe once in awhile, you will find a diamond in the rough who does not fit the profile. Because one Japanese woman is wonderful does not mean that all Asian women are wonderful. As a matter of fact, my cousin is married to a Japanese woman, who has become totally Americanized, and she is the biggest pain in the ass I have ever met.

Let's get real here, you cannot judge all Asian women on just one relationship that worked out. Some of them are good and some of them are bad, think with your big head and be careful out there.

Gfechaser
07-22-10, 21:53
Here's another one, "Asian women on the other hand are more sincere even those from wealthier parts of Asia. One of my friends married a Japanese girl, and he wound up moving to Japan because she wanted him in her country, so it was clear she was not trying to get a visa from him."

I'm sure I can find a lot of Thai and Phil women who would love to meet him, and then fleece him!

You might find a sincere Asian woman if she is close to your age and socioeconomic status and maybe, just maybe once in awhile, you will find a diamond in the rough who does not fit the profile. Because one Japanese woman is wonderful does not mean that all Asian women are wonderful. As a matter of fact, my cousin is married to a Japanese woman, who has become totally Americanized, and she is the biggest pain in the ass I have ever met.

Let's get real here, you cannot judge all Asian women on just one relationship that worked out. Some of them are good and some of them are bad, think with your big head and be careful out there.


I used to believe that Asian women were the gold standard for the perfect mate. Now that I am older and have spoken to many men that were either divorced or have been done wrong by Asian Women I know that it is not true. IMHO any woman can become americanized and change for the worse. It is tough to sustain a relationship on any level. Perhaps a little harder in America because of the culture though.

Australiasucks
07-23-10, 20:15
Asian women in North America suck but those I meet in Australia are much better because they are more in tune with their old ways. American women regardless of ethnicity suck and are just plain nasty.

As far as the economics, let me say this, if you are in the bottom 95 percent in Australia, Western Europe, Canada, etc, chances are you are better off than the bottom 95 percent of America. Life for ordinary working people in America is just not good. Even more affluent Americans are not as well off as they think.

Someone put a link to a person who was writing about his experiences overseas, I think the average American, if they were aware of how the working class live in other developed countries really live, there would be rioting in the streets. Let me give you one major difference between Australia and the US, by law an employer must give an employee 4 weeks of vacation at full pay or even 8 weeks at half pay. Unemployment insurance is more generous than in the US. Laws regarding overtime in Australia are a lot tougher than America, even then people do not work that much overtime. That kind of time gives you ample opportunity to travel and do things outside of work. There are Americans who have not been on vacation for years at a time and many are overworked. I can think of other things as well. Health care is also much better, you do not have to worry about going bankrupt if you get sick in Oz. I have heard a lot of Americans knock down national healthcare but my honest opinion of US healthcare is that it sucks, Americans pay more for lower quality care.

ThatGuy865
07-24-10, 13:24
Asian women in North America suck but those I meet in Australia are much better because they are more in tune with their old ways. American women regardless of ethnicity suck and are just plain nasty.

As far as the economics, let me say this, if you are in the bottom 95 percent in Australia, Western Europe, Canada, etc, chances are you are better off than the bottom 95 percent of America. Life for ordinary working people in America is just not good. Even more affluent Americans are not as well off as they think.

Someone put a link to a person who was writing about his experiences overseas, I think the average American, if they were aware of how the working class live in other developed countries really live, there would be rioting in the streets. Let me give you one major difference between Australia and the US, by law an employer must give an employee 4 weeks of vacation at full pay or even 8 weeks at half pay. Unemployment insurance is more generous than in the US. Laws regarding overtime in Australia are a lot tougher than America, even then people do not work that much overtime. That kind of time gives you ample opportunity to travel and do things outside of work. There are Americans who have not been on vacation for years at a time and many are overworked. I can think of other things as well. Health care is also much better, you do not have to worry about going bankrupt if you get sick in Oz. I have heard a lot of Americans knock down national healthcare but my honest opinion of US healthcare is that it sucks, Americans pay more for lower quality care.You haven't a clue what you're talking about. America is the land of opportunity. We make more millionare's than any other country in the world. Thats the bottom line in America. We work hard and play hard. Yes there are people who have it rough. But we also have plenty who are living good.

Bango Cheito
07-24-10, 22:29
Work hard AND play hard? Well I agree with the first part, but after 2 years living in Colombia let me say that Americans are AMATEURS at "play" :P

ThatGuy865
07-25-10, 00:05
Work hard AND play hard? Well I agree with the first part, but after 2 years living in Colombia let me say that Americans are AMATEURS at "play" :PAmerica has the best playgrounds for adults in the world. Vegas. The beaches. World class ski resorts. Spas. Disneylands. Universal Studios. 6 flags. Please the list is endless. We have things other countries/people only get to see on TV. We have it all.

Dickhead
07-25-10, 00:57
Work in general is highly overrated. And this particular American gets 20 weeks off per year, and allegedly works 26-2/3 hours a week, but actually works about 15-20, and clears about $36k after taxes. In the coming year I will have to actually work 40 hours a week (maybe) for 32 weeks but I will clear about $65k. I know, I know; that is twice as much work for less than twice as much money but that is what happens with graduated tax rates. I am okay with graduated tax rates; in fact, I favor them.

Any idiot can work hard.

Australiasucks
07-25-10, 05:06
Work in general is highly overrated. And this particular American gets 20 weeks off per year, and allegedly works 26-2/3 hours a week, but actually works about 15-20, and clears about $36k after taxes. In the coming year I will have to actually work 40 hours a week (maybe) for 32 weeks but I will clear about $65k. I know, I know; that is twice as much work for less than twice as much money but that is what happens with graduated tax rates. I am okay with graduated tax rates; in fact, I favor them.

Any idiot can work hard.The only reason people work is to make money and get good things. That is what made America run, people were motivated to work hard in order to get rich and have the American dream, these days its becoming more and more unattainable for ordinary people. Americans are working harder today than before but are worse off than Americans 30 years ago when you adjust salaries for inflation. So what is so great about all that hard work when it bears less fruit?? Australia is a great place to live because it has a high standard of living but people do not work like they do in America. I worked in the States for a decade and went several years without a real holiday, in Australia I take 8 weeks off every single year.

Dickhead
07-25-10, 14:39
In 2008 (the latest year available) the average US wage was $41,334.97. In 1978 it was $10,556.03. So: [(4133497/1055603)^(1/30)] - 1 = 4.66% compound average annual increase in wages in the last thirty years. Those figures are from the Social Security website.

Now we'll compare the average annual CPI (Consumer Price Index) for 2008 vs. 1978: 210.228 vs. 65.2. That is a 3.98% compound average annual increase. Hence wages rose about 17% faster than inflation and Australiasucks once again does not know what he is talking about. And, marginal tax rates are considerably lower now than in 1978 so don't even bring that shit up.

Clearly the US worker's standard of living rose over the last 30 years. I don't know much about the economy in Australia but I know enough to shut the fuck up about it.

DJ FourMoney
07-25-10, 17:27
Work in general is highly overrated. And this particular American gets 20 weeks off per year, and allegedly works 26-2/3 hours a week, but actually works about 15-20, and clears about $36k after taxes. In the coming year I will have to actually work 40 hours a week (maybe) for 32 weeks but I will clear about $65k. I know, I know; that is twice as much work for less than twice as much money but that is what happens with graduated tax rates. I am okay with graduated tax rates; in fact, I favor them.

Any idiot can work hard.

I've begged to use my vacation time, after 1 year is 1 week paid, after 2 its two weeks paid until 5 years in and then its 3. It doesn't increase again until 10 years in, some companies its longer, some others it never more than 2-3 weeks period.

We have ultra high productivity and what has it gotten us but Corporate Welfare System.

ThatGuy is a Libertarian or Republican, we are not the Greatest Country On Earth and our quality of life rating is in the 20's and 30's (Switzerland, Austria and Scandinavia top the list constantly). Some of the best places to live in the US are horribly expensive; You wanna live in po-dunk Iowa, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Missouri, etc? - Be My Guess!

We used to have a country where you didn't need wealth to get what you wanted. Now you have to be wealthy to protect you from being Middle Class, that's ridiculous.

As George Carlin said (RIP), "The Rich only keep the poor around to scare the middle class to keep going to those jobs..." those great and wonderful jobs the US has, mostly POOR PAYING Service Sector jobs with no health care or other benefits.

Dickhead
07-25-10, 18:11
You want a good job, get a good education, or learn a high-paying trade with barriers to entry such as licensing. Here was my evolution:

Phase 1: Went to work at fourteen, quit school at fifteen. Having no diploma relegated me to unskilled factory work (extremely hard, paid okay, hated it) or kitchen work (pretty hard, paid lousy, liked it for the most part). If I did the work I hated I could make 2x minimum wage and sometimes got health insurance. Kitchen work, once I was good, I could make maybe 1.75x minimum wage.

So since I'm not an idiot, I concentrated on finding the easiest possible cooking jobs, and then I made them even easier by being extremely fast and efficient. Small motels are good. Low volume so you can work alone, but they won't normally go out of business because the franchise agreement will require the restaurant to be open certain hours. Cooking is a portable skill or trade that will never go out of style. And, since there are always jobs for cooks, I could quit any time they pissed me off, and it didn't really matter.

Further education was still not on my radar so I looked for something to do as "moonlighting" that maybe paid better and was different from cooking. Since I am "Johnny Baseball" my wife suggested I try umpiring, and I turned that into a good side gig, starting

Phase 2: Still no education but working my ass off and finally getting to the point of creating a surplus. After three years of this I was able to buy a condo. Then I started applying for civil service jobs that required a high school diploma, even though I didn't have one. I figured if I got close to being hired I would just run down and take the GED. Well, as it turned out I got hired by the post office and they didn't bother to check, leading to

Phase 3: Now I have a good paying, secure, union job with all the benefits including a pension. Life is good. No need to go back to school now. Except I took a dive and broke my neck, and then had four knee operations, which ruined my career. But, it ruined it slowly enough I had time to go back to school, leading to

Phase 4: Now I have a bachelor's degree and am both broadly educated in a number of areas and deeply educated in a particular field. This field requires a license that is particularly hard to get, but I got it. Now I am a white collar, upper-middle class individual. But, while the field was interesting in theory, it was not all the much fun in practice, leading to

Phase 5: I got an advanced degree and two more professional certifications and became an expert in a very small sub-field. Making lots of money and in demand. Finally I begin to teach the subject instead of doing it, which leads to

Phase 6: I weasel my way into a really easy job that can be done drunk and naked from anywhere in the world, and I leave the Yew Ess behind. But all good things must come to an end, and that job came to an end.

Well, guess what? Even in a terrible economy I quickly found another good job, and when that ends I'll find another good job, and so forth. That's because I have top-notch qualifications. And, if I don't, or if I lose my license or something, I've always got a trade to fall back on!

But American Women still suck.

Australiasucks
07-25-10, 19:51
I've begged to use my vacation time, after 1 year is 1 week paid, after 2 its two weeks paid until 5 years in and then its 3. It doesn't increase again until 10 years in, some companies its longer, some others it never more than 2-3 weeks period.

We have ultra high productivity and what has it gotten us but Corporate Welfare System.

ThatGuy is a Libertarian or Republican, we are not the Greatest Country On Earth and our quality of life rating is in the 20's and 30's (Switzerland, Austria and Scandinavia top the list constantly). Some of the best places to live in the US are horribly expensive; You want to live in po-dunk Iowa, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Missouri, etc?. Be My Guess!

We used to have a country where you didn't need wealth to get what you wanted. Now you have to be wealthy to protect you from being Middle Class, that's ridiculous.

As George Carlin said (RIP), "The Rich only keep the poor around to scare the middle class to keep going to those jobs. " those great and wonderful jobs the US has, mostly POOR PAYING Service Sector jobs with no health care or other benefits.That is really true, in America, its normal to tip waiters and staff but in Australia tipping someone is akin to saying "Here is some money for your trouble, peasant", basically its an insult. The lowest wage is around 15 to 16 US an hour, Aussies do not make millions but earn a good living on average to live decent. Many jobs do not pay well in America unless you have a college or professional degree, even a McDonalds burger flipper in Australia can make around 40k a year, I doubt the same person would earn the same in the US. The only way to make a good living in America is go to college and get some specialized training. But even now I hear college grads are taking jobs that they would not because of the poor economic conditions. The spread of wealth in America is very unfair, with an ultrarich upper class, struggling middle class, and a large underclass living in near third world poverty.

Actually Australia is way up on that list as well with Scandinavia, Canada is high up on that list. I have been to Canada on numerous occasions, find it to be far superior to the US, and if you have been to Quebec its a pussy paradise on the level of the best in Europe.

Australiasucks
07-25-10, 19:55
In 2008 (the latest year available) the average US wage was $41,334.97. In 1978 it was $10,556.03. So: [(4133497/1055603)^(1/30)] - 1 = 4.66% compound average annual increase in wages in the last thirty years. Those figures are from the Social Security website.

Now we'll compare the average annual CPI (Consumer Price Index) for 2008 vs. 1978: 210.228 vs. 65.2. That is a 3.98% compound average annual increase. Hence wages rose about 17% faster than inflation and Australiasucks once again does not know what he is talking about. And, marginal tax rates are considerably lower now than in 1978 so don't even bring that shit up.

Clearly the US worker's standard of living rose over the last 30 years. I don't know much about the economy in Australia but I know enough to shut the fuck up about it.Why don't you read this:

http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/25/pf/mobility_study/index.htm

Whats up with defending the US dickhead, I thought you didnt like it there?

I can tell you for a fact that being a working class Aussie is a lot better than being a working class American, in fact, I prefer it to being a rich American too.

Dickhead
07-26-10, 00:41
I am not defending the US; I am defending accuracy. And, my data are objective (and verifiable) whereas your article is subjective and biased. Furthermore, you talked about thirty years ago and this article talks about people who are thirty years old. It ain't the same thing.

"The study was produced by a handful of politically diverse think tanks" = bias
"Relying on Census Bureau figures": this means the data were self-reported = bias, inaccuracy, based on a sample, etc.
"Similarly, American families, which experienced a 32 percent increase in income levels between 1964 and 1994, saw household income growth slow to 9 percent between 1974 and 2004": Because family size decreased! Duh! Family income don't got squat to do with it.

You need to learn to think critically and not just swallow a lot of bullshit published by some slick magazine that doesn't even show any sources, and needs to be sensational to sell magazines.

But I would certainly rather live in Australia than the United States; however, you cocksuckers won't let me in. Realistically, if I ran a country I probably would not let a lazy, *****mongering, trash-talking, dope smoking boozehound into it either. But actually I am a fairly productive citizen overall.

Crazy Jim Wood
07-26-10, 00:55
america has the best playgrounds for adults in the world. vegas. the beaches. world class ski resorts. spas. disneylands. universal studios. 6 flags. please the list is endless. we have things other countries/people only get to see on tv. we have it all.
please... sex prison usa has the worst playgrounds in the world, since p4p is illegal, you can't order a beer at mcdonalds or dennys, you can't smoke in bars, there is no nude advertising, and various other party-pooping laws of the religious right to limit our rights to freedom and the pursuit of happiness.

Dickhead
07-26-10, 00:58
That is really true, in America, its normal to tip waiters and staff but in Australia tipping someone is akin to saying "Here is some money for your trouble, peasant", basically its an insult.

This is one of my favorite things about your country. Tipping sucks and I hate working for tips. Hardly ever did it. Delivering pizzas part-time, is all.


The lowest wage is around 15 to 16 US an hour, Aussies do not make millions but earn a good living on average to live decent. Many jobs do not pay well in America unless you have a college or professional degree, even a McDonalds burger flipper in Australia can make around 40k a year, I doubt the same person would earn the same in the US.

Nor should they!


The only way to make a good living in America is go to college and get some specialized training.

Or learn a trade, or open your own business. Do the names Bill Gates and Michael Dell have any significance to you? Neither has a college degree! I have a friend who is a master plumber, no college at all. He makes about $200k a year and he ain't chasing turds, either. He puts in radiant floor heating systems, driveway de-icers, shit like that. It's hard work (crouching all day for one thing), I've worked with him a few times, but it isn't dirty or hot or noisy or anything like that.

One of the reasons I posted about the phases of my working life was to demonstrate that upward mobility is still possible in the United States. I don't yearn for it, but it's possible. One or two regular posters on this thread seem to think it is all a system beyond their control. One must think creatively to rise above the system.

Or you can just go "poor poor pitiful me" for the rest of your life. The choice is yours!

Dickhead
07-26-10, 01:03
please... sex prison usa has the worst playgrounds in the world, since p4p is illegal, you can't order a beer at mcdonalds or dennys, you can't smoke in bars, there is no nude advertising, and various other party-pooping laws of the religious right to limit our rights to freedom and the pursuit of happiness.

many denny's serve beer. i used to work for denny's (they really suck). mcdonald's sucks too; that food is inedible as far as i am concerned, so who gives a fuck if they serve beer? however anyone who thinks us ski areas are world class probably has not been to st. moritz, bariloche, portillo, whistler, etc. is aspen a world class ski area? i don't really know but i know they have some world-class gold-digging ball-busting b!tches there!

Goga Fung
07-26-10, 01:19
America has the best playgrounds for adults in the world. Vegas. The beaches. World class ski resorts. Spas. Disneylands. Universal Studios. 6 flags. Please the list is endless. We have things other countries/people only get to see on TV. We have it all.that's funny. I have seen some of this BS. Disney, Universal, LV. America has all the facilities for that, but unfortunatly nothing else. The rest is advertised overpriced BS crap plus fucked up people. And on every corner they try to sell you a timeshare. Looks like the some of the most fucked up playground in the world.

Ok, of course its all great if you come there with your gorgeous biyotch.

Dickhead
07-26-10, 01:59
To get back on topic:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_15599356

This happens with alarming regularity in the Yew Ess. What is up with that?

Dickhead
07-26-10, 02:19
Obviously That Gay has never heard of Euro Disney. That Gay has probably never been out of the US. Six Fags? Please. We got go kart tracks (80 mph) here that make Six Fags look like a joke. We got places you can shoot machine guns and bazookas. Universal Studios is for jock sniffers. What a kunt.

Australiasucks
07-26-10, 02:40
Obviously That Gay has never heard of Euro Disney. That Gay has probably never been out of the US. Six Fags? Please. We got go kart tracks (80 mph) here that make Six Fags look like a joke. We got places you can shoot machine guns and bazookas. Universal Studios is for jock sniffers. What a kunt.Thatguy probably never lived overseas, I am surprised Aussie migration would give you trouble, being a monger and a boozer is no biggie, describes nearly half of the Australian population LOL. I moved to Oz because I could not get permanent status in the US despite living nearly a decade there and I did not want to go back to the UK. Anyway I just put him on ignore, the point is that there are a lot of great things to experience outside of America.

Piper1
07-26-10, 03:20
Australia Sucks/CBGB, I think you're actually starting to believe your own charade about being an Australian. Here's a little reminder of who you are, to help you with your identity crisis
... Mr. Sucks is officially CBGBconnisur, so you're dealing with an American living in Sydney who was banned from ISG for his flames and his racist diatribes. For some reason he's come back under a new "Aussie" identity to criticize his host country.I see he's on two strikes already in his new identity. I disagree with many of his inane and inaccurate opinions about Australia - he obviously doesn't get out much.

Dickhead
07-26-10, 04:31
Oh yeah; I forgot about that. Now that you point it out, I remember this fuck. The operative phrase is "snivel."

Australiasucks
07-26-10, 13:52
Australia Sucks/CBGB, I think you're actually starting to believe your own charade about being an Australian. Here's a little reminder of who you are, to help you with your identity crisisI see he's on two strikes already in his new identity. I disagree with many of his inane and inaccurate opinions about Australia - he obviously doesn't get out much.That was someone else. I was born in the UK, that other fella was an American.

What do you not agree with?

Goga Fung
07-26-10, 14:08
Obviously That Gay has never heard of Euro Disney. That Gay has probably never been out of the US. Six Fags? Please. We got go kart tracks (80 mph) here that make Six Fags look like a joke. We got places you can shoot machine guns and bazookas. Universal Studios is for jock sniffers. What a kunt.If Northern Americans ever go to the Rio Carnival they would see how lame all the crap the see in USA.

I was told the lines now are longer in places like Six flags because people are bigger/fatter nowdays. So they cannot put several people in one seat as it was designed 20 or something years ago.

Rubber Nursey
07-26-10, 21:15
Aussies do not make millions but earn a good living on average to live decent. ...The spread of wealth in America is very unfair, with an ultrarich upper class, struggling middle class, and a large underclass living in near third world poverty.
I agree with what you said about quality of life stuff, but your financial assessment is a bit iffy. We have multi-billionaire mining magnates and corporate CEOs, millions of struggling working class folks, and tens of thousands of people living in abject poverty (especially if you include rural/regional areas and Aboriginal communities).

Australia is a very egalitarian society and in an 'emotional' sense, there is a degree of equality between rich and poor. But in a financial sense, the divide is massive. There is also a huge disparity between male and female wages, and award wages in different states. Underemployment is also a major issue.

Dickhead
07-26-10, 21:59
I wonder how the male/female wage disparity compares with the US. I think the figure I heard there was that women make 73% of what men make. A few reasons besides prejudice can partially explain this.

1) Women tend to gravitate to "helping" professions and these often don't pay well; I know, since I am in a "helping" profession.
2) Career interruption to have kids. Of course now in the US there is the Family Medical and Leave Act and the man can take time off too. However, men are extremely poor at lactating and you can only take I think it is 12 weeks, and it's unpaid.
3) Flame me, shoot me, whatever, but women take more sick leave (at least in the US; 3/2 is the ratio I have heard) and employers don't like that.

I have not missed a day of work sick since 1993 and that day I was actually hung over and not sick, plus I didn't like that job and knew I would be quitting soon anyway. If I thought back to the last day I was actually to sick (injured, actually) to work we are talking 1989.

I once had an employee call in with what he referred to as "anal glaucoma"; he said he "just couldn't see his ass coming to work today." I also once had a job where if you were sick there was a number you had to call in the morning, I did this, and said I was ill, and was told I had to name an illness. I thought that was way stupid so I said I had Dutch Elm disease, and I never heard anything more about it.

However, as my trainer at the post office told me, "Never waste your sick leave when you aren't feeling well."

Australiasucks
07-26-10, 22:37
I agree with what you said about quality of life stuff, but your financial assessment is a bit iffy. We have multi-billionaire mining magnates and corporate CEOs, millions of struggling working class folks, and tens of thousands of people living in abject poverty (especially if you include rural/regional areas and Aboriginal communities).

Australia is a very egalitarian society and in an 'emotional' sense, there is a degree of equality between rich and poor. But in a financial sense, the divide is massive. There is also a huge disparity between male and female wages, and award wages in different states. Underemployment is also a major issue.Australia is more unequal now than in the past, but the disparity in Australia is much less than in the US and definitely less than in Asia. Australia looks unequal compared to Western Europe though, particularly Germany and Scandinavian countries.

Rubber Nursey
07-26-10, 23:22
I wonder how the male/female wage disparity compares with the US. I think the figure I heard there was that women make 73% of what men make. A few reasons besides prejudice can partially explain this.

1) Women tend to gravitate to "helping" professions and these often don't pay well; I know, since I am in a "helping" profession.
2) Career interruption to have kids. Of course now in the US there is the Family Medical and Leave Act and the man can take time off too. However, men are extremely poor at lactating and you can only take I think it is 12 weeks, and it's unpaid.
3) Flame me, shoot me, whatever, but women take more sick leave (at least in the US; 3/2 is the ratio I have heard) and employers don't like that.
Nationally, women are paid 17% less than men. Western Australia is much worse than the other states, with women here earning 26% less.

I agree with all your reasons. 1) Pay rates in caring professions and other jobs traditionally seen as 'women's work' are a joke. 2) The career interruption to give birth - and often returning to part-time or casual work for subsequent years - does long-term damage to a woman's promotion potential. 3) I would suspect that a lot of those sick days are actually taken when the kids are sick, or for school activities, kids' sporting events, etc. Also, the pressure involved with being a working mother (working all day at work, then working all night at home) can take a massive toll on women's health.

But I think the main problem is often straight out sexism, with women just being passed over for jobs in favour of men. Women with children are seen as a liability, women with no children are seen as a potential liability.

Piper1
07-26-10, 23:58
That was someone else. I was born in the UK, that other fella was an American.
Which other guy?

Dickhead
07-27-10, 08:47
Well, I am an accountant by profession so I would certainly characterize children as a liability (future sacrifice of resources) on the balance sheet and an expense (current consumption of resources) on the income statement.

I can't see them being an asset, which implies a future benefit, and they don't seem to produce much revenue (net inflow of resources), generally. Hence they decrease equity. Also, they are messy and sticky and stinky.

Therefore I would characterize them as a loss. Losses differ from expenses in that losses result from peripheral or incidental activities not related to the entity's ongoing operations.

So every time you bust a nut inside a woman you create a possible 18-21 year liability, depending on the jurisdiction. From an accouting standpoint you would need to debit "Nut" and credit "Potential Future Kid."

Therefore I view my vasectomy as an asset, since it benefits me in many future accounting periods. It cost me $87.50 so I could amortize or allocate that over the entire future life of my dick, consistent with the "matching principle." Now from a pure accounting standpoint that would require that I estimate the future usefull life of my dick, as well as estimating the salvage or residual value of my dick, which I deem to be minimal, particularly looking at it right now.

However, my dick may very well rise again, in which case I would have a "hidden asset" on my balance sheet, similar to research and development costs. A hard dick is an asset.

Or is it a liability?

More importantly, what is the estimated future life of my dick? Not too much based on recent experience.

Happy Chappy
07-27-10, 11:48
Well, I am an accountant by profession so I would certainly characterize children as a liability (future sacrifice of resources) on the balance sheet and an expense (current consumption of resources) on the income statement.

I can't see them being an asset, which implies a future benefit, and they don't seem to produce much revenue (net inflow of resources), generally. Hence they decrease equity. Also, they are messy and sticky and stinky.

Therefore I would characterize them as a loss. Losses differ from expenses in that losses result from peripheral or incidental activities not related to the entity's ongoing operations.

So every time you bust a nut inside a woman you create a possible 18-21 year liability, depending on the jurisdiction. From an accouting standpoint you would need to debit "Nut" and credit "Potential Future Kid."

Therefore I view my vasectomy as an asset, since it benefits me in many future accounting periods. It cost me $87.50 so I could amortize or allocate that over the entire future life of my dick, consistent with the "matching principle." Now from a pure accounting standpoint that would require that I estimate the future usefull life of my dick, as well as estimating the salvage or residual value of my dick, which I deem to be minimal, particularly looking at it right now.

However, my dick may very well rise again, in which case I would have a "hidden asset" on my balance sheet, similar to research and development costs. A hard dick is an asset.

Or is it a liability?

More importantly, what is the estimated future life of my dick? Not too much based on recent experience.


Keep posting dickhead! Haven't checked this thread for a couple of weeks and I see you are keeping the regular expert know alls to try and stick to the facts, thinking outside the square, giving us a laugh, and even lectures in accounting!

However a hard dick is definately a liability I think. Whenever I get a hard dick, I relieve the swelling with a hooker, which leads to expenses.

Rubber Nursey
07-27-10, 12:12
Ha! You crack me up, DH. :)

Australiasucks
07-28-10, 05:10
Which other guy?You have me mixed up, I am a British born Australian citizen. And I gladly say Australia is a great place much better than the USA, in fact most people I know say the same, also better overall than Europe in many ways. I use sucks in a different context. Having spent time in both Australia and the US, I had to just chime in and yes the vacation time you get in Australia is much much better than the USA, I also have better working conditions in my job as well. I worked in the US for a decade and often went for years without a holiday. I take at least two a year as an Australian, this year I was cheap and took only one four week holiday to Europe. Its fact that Australia is a more laid back and relaxed pace of life than North America, nothing inane or inaccurate about that at all mate.

About the immigration to Oz, thing I remember when I went to get my physical taken, there were a bunch of people in the office, which was when I was in the US, who were applying for Australian PR, almost all of them were doing so because they could not get permanent status in the US, this a while back though, things may have changed.

Sprite13
07-28-10, 05:58
Funny stuff you wrote DH!:D
Here's something funny yet sad on another site about what some American men are turning gay because of American women:

"How many men are there in America whose failure with women made them “realize” they were a homosexual? Thousands, I’d estimate. These are guys too disillusioned with the American female to put the game work needed to penetrate their holes. Guys who concluded that these girls are not worth the effort, and that they rather get banged in the butt than deal with them or figure them out. I have a feeling these gay boys had gay tendencies before their conversion, but how many guys in Brazil converted to homosexuality because they couldn’t get laid? Colombia? Russia? Italy? Significantly less, I imagine.

How many other guys have given up on dating and rely solely on prostitutes? And how many others put their cock in a lockbox until they can fly away to bang foreign pussy? These guys are withdrawing themselves from the dating market, making it even harder for the educated middle-class American woman to find a partner with the same socioeconomic background as her own. The problem that only exists for African-American women (finding a long-term mate within their race), will now become one for white women as well.

I know some American girls are cool, sexy, and attractive, but that small percentage is shrinking to where living in a city of a million people is no guarantee you’ll find one. If you have then great job, but most guys are not as lucky, something that seems to be a growing factor these days. As a whole, American women are deficient in so many areas that men are choosing homosexuality instead. I wonder what this means for the future of the white American race. "

Is it really THAT bad in the land of the free and brave? Damnnnn!!!! Can our American friends in here comment about that?

Goga Fung
07-28-10, 07:25
"We are living in the country where men are totally disrespected"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMfFzF4SS8

Goga Fung
07-28-10, 07:41
Here's something funny yet sad on another site about what some American men are turning gay because of American women:

"How many men are there in America whose failure with women made them “realize” they were a homosexual? Thousands, I’d estimate. These are guys too disillusioned with the American female to put the game work needed to penetrate their holes. Guys who concluded that these girls are not worth the effort, and that they rather get banged in the butt than deal with them or figure them out. I have a feeling these gay boys had gay tendencies before their conversion, but how many guys in Brazil converted to homosexuality because they couldn’t get laid? Colombia? Russia? Italy? Significantly less, I imagine.

How many other guys have given up on dating and rely solely on prostitutes? And how many others put their cock in a lockbox until they can fly away to bang foreign pussy? These guys are withdrawing themselves from the dating market, making it even harder for the educated middle-class American woman to find a partner with the same socioeconomic background as her own. The problem that only exists for African-American women (finding a long-term mate within their race), will now become one for white women as well.

I know some American girls are cool, sexy, and attractive, but that small percentage is shrinking to where living in a city of a million people is no guarantee you’ll find one. If you have then great job, but most guys are not as lucky, something that seems to be a growing factor these days. As a whole, American women are deficient in so many areas that men are choosing homosexuality instead. I wonder what this means for the future of the white American race. "

Is it really THAT bad in the land of the free and brave? Damnnnn!!!! Can our American friends in here comment about that?Sprite, first of all this is not funny at all:)

I have no idea how many people are turning "gay", although I have read a story when two friends got tired of hoping to meet girls at parties, and after another party decided to fuck each other and actually liked it. Then there is another guy from FSU who used to date women, but later after being in USA for a while, switched to men.

There is also another phenomena, it turns out there are many middle aged virgin men in USA:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1047108&postcount=4055

Some of them are so messed up that they get treatment by so-called "surrogate partners" who claim they are not prostitutes. But they charge normally $10,000 and may or may not provide sex after several months of "therapy". Incredibly ridiculous sick stuff.

Westy
07-28-10, 13:58
"How many men are there in America... (who) have given up on dating and rely solely on prostitutes? And how many others put their cock in a lockbox until they can fly away to bang foreign pussy? These guys are withdrawing themselves from the dating market ... I wonder what this means for the future of the white American race."
I gave up on "Love American Style" during the Reagan years. Part of it was working in the Federal government, and an agency where white males were indeed targets of discrimination; part of it was that I'd bought a house and took my widowed mother in to live with me, and what woman would put up with that? And when Mom passed away, I was awfully conscious of being too old for any woman that lit a spark in me.

"Dickhardinho" languished in his lockbox, with frequent connubial visits by Miss Rosy Palm, untill a visit to Paraguay in 2004 brought him back to "the sweetness he'd been crying for" (as Steely Dan put it). The DR, though, is a lot closer, and I have acquired a taste for "Brown Sugar" and Brugal rum....

I didn't, and I don't, see any interest in my future from any of the eligible ladies in my neighborhood, or in my city. Why should I worry about theirs? They have their houses, their cars, their good jobs, their 401Ks if they're smart, and they've assured me time and again that they can take care of themselves. Let them pleasure themselves with their dildos.

As for the future of the "white American race," my next-door neighbors, immigrants from Cameroon, married off their daughter last week to a fellow who looks Irish. She's a lovely girl and I hope they'll be happy together.

Australiasucks
07-28-10, 14:18
Nationally, women are paid 17% less than men. Western Australia is much worse than the other states, with women here earning 26% less.

I agree with all your reasons. 1) Pay rates in caring professions and other jobs traditionally seen as 'women's work' are a joke. 2) The career interruption to give birth - and often returning to part-time or casual work for subsequent years - does long-term damage to a woman's promotion potential. 3) I would suspect that a lot of those sick days are actually taken when the kids are sick, or for school activities, kids' sporting events, etc. Also, the pressure involved with being a working mother (working all day at work, then working all night at home) can take a massive toll on women's health.

But I think the main problem is often straight out sexism, with women just being passed over for jobs in favour of men. Women with children are seen as a liability, women with no children are seen as a potential liability.I can tell you for a fact that most of the single mums near where I live are all on the dole, get everything from the government. The Australian government is paying women to get pregnant and then paying for all that it entails. In the US single mothers have it much harder. That being said Australia has much better social welfare than the US. Our health care system is far superior. I can tell you the numerous times dealing with US insurance companies was hell. The bottom line is that Australia is a much better country for ordinary people than the US or even Canada.

D Cups
07-28-10, 23:47
It's pretty bad here, Sprite, for dating AWs. I'm American, 54, reasonably good looking and in good health, good job (business professor), own a home and am a fun guy to be around. Geez I even play rock music on my guitar and sing at open mikes.

Women in their 20s accuse me of being a pervert if I ask them out ("hey, you're old enough to be my dad" -- as if that were a bad thing). Women in their 30s are generally cougars looking to hang on to their youth so they like to fuck younger guys just like we like to fuck younger girls. The ones that do date older guys only do it because they have kids (see "liabilities" in the accountant's humorous post below) and are looking for instant daddies' money.

Women in the 40s and 50s: forget it. They all have fat asses and big mouths that are not used properly (as receptacles for our cocks). Plus they have more baggage than United Airlines.

So it is no wonder that some confused men have turned gay. I personally don't like gays and think it's wrong and sick but I can see how and why a dude would start wanting another dude because the dudettes are unavailable and unbelievably cold, vicious cunts. I'm sure there are some exceptions in the small towns but city girls? Forget it!

So, I don't even bother LOOKING to go out out on dates with AWs any more. It's just a waste of time and money. If you do go out and get laid in America with a non-pro it's likely to be an emotional nightmare to put up with all their bullshit, baggage and selfishness. So now when I see a luscious 20-something with big gazongas here in California I instantly daydream about her foreign equivalent waiting for me on the other side of the planet!

I go to TJ almost every month for a nice long BJ from one of those sexy little latinas. Annually or twice a year I go to Asia, particularly Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand or Cambodia where the pussy is tight and they will fuck your brains out, then give you long massages and then blow you again for a fraction of the cost of a date with a fat-assed, blithering American *****.

I hear central and south america is also good for mongering so I'm going to Curacao for the first time next March (business trip) to check out the "Happy Camp" there. Supposed to have a lot of Colombian cuties with big knockers like I like. Brazil is amazing, too, for beautiful, available pros and non-pros.

Thousands of guys like me are fed up with AWs. Perhaps hundreds of thousands. Maybe it's in the millions now. Thank God I never married one of them; and I have the type of job that allows me to travel so I'm not stuck in the rut like all (ALL, not most, ALL) of my married buddies are. Hell, they LIVE vicariously through me and my worldly sexual episodes.

When I settle down it will be in P.I. with an educated, big-boobed spinner beauty one-third my age. Ya, ya I know full well I marry her whole family but believe me those little brown moocher relatives will all be doing work for me if they want some of my hard-earned money. Nothing is free.

And I will be living out my golden years in luxury there with a trophy wife and laughing out loud at all the poor dumb bastards in the U.S. that are stuck here.


Funny stuff you wrote DH!

Here's something funny yet sad on another site about what some American men are turning gay because of American women:

"How many men are there in America whose failure with women made them “realize” they were a homosexual? Thousands, I’d estimate. These are guys too disillusioned with the American female to put the game work needed to penetrate their holes. Guys who concluded that these girls are not worth the effort, and that they rather get banged in the butt than deal with them or figure them out. I have a feeling these gay boys had gay tendencies before their conversion, but how many guys in Brazil converted to homosexuality because they couldn’t get laid? Colombia? Russia? Italy? Significantly less, I imagine.

How many other guys have given up on dating and rely solely on prostitutes? And how many others put their cock in a lockbox until they can fly away to bang foreign pussy? These guys are withdrawing themselves from the dating market, making it even harder for the educated middle-class American woman to find a partner with the same socioeconomic background as her own. The problem that only exists for African-American women (finding a long-term mate within their race), will now become one for white women as well.

I know some American girls are cool, sexy, and attractive, but that small percentage is shrinking to where living in a city of a million people is no guarantee you’ll find one. If you have then great job, but most guys are not as lucky, something that seems to be a growing factor these days. As a whole, American women are deficient in so many areas that men are choosing homosexuality instead. I wonder what this means for the future of the white American race. "

Is it really THAT bad in the land of the free and brave? Damnnnn!!!! Can our American friends in here comment about that?

Dickhead
07-29-10, 00:09
"How many men are there in America whose failure with women made them “realize” they were a homosexual? Thousands, I’d estimate."

Zero would be my estimate there.

Westy
07-29-10, 00:46
I can tell you for a fact that most of the single mums near where I live are all on the dole, get everything from the government. The Australian government is paying women to get pregnant and then paying for all that it entails.
And so she "doesn't need" a man, right? In fact the State support might dry up if she DID get serious about a man. I am reminded of an article I saw on an Irish website (no URL, Jackson) - titled "Brides Of The State". It detailed how the Irish government subsidized women in raising their out-of-wedlock children; as the article put it, "the state is able, through the so-called 'One- Parent Family Payment' scheme, to offer young women a disposable income that 99% of young men can not compete with."

I don't begrudge this support to unmarried mothers; my mom raised me by herself, and life wasn't easy for either of us. But I can't turn a blind eye to the unintended consequences of the "One-Parent Family Payment" dole: the unmarried mother won't risk her payments by looking for a "new Daddy" for her kids - and her children will be less likely to see "Daddy" and marriage as necessary, when they're ready to raise (or sire) their broods.

The unintended consequences of my childhood? I never got married; I never sired any children. And I won't.

Rubber Nursey
07-29-10, 04:46
...most of the single mums near where I live are all on the dole, get everything from the government. The Australian government is paying women to get pregnant and then paying for all that it entails.

...to offer young women a disposable income that 99% of young men can not compete with. ....the unmarried mother won't risk her payments by looking for a "new Daddy" for her kids...
Australiasucks: Just because the media says something, doesn't make it so. This isn't the place for me to go into Oz welfare statistics, but suffice to say that if welfare really provided such a comfortable lifestyle, and the Government really 'paid for all it entails', I (and thousands of other Australian single mothers) would not have turned to the sex industry to survive.

Westy: I can't speak to the Irish model, but Australian sole parent benefits (including annual rebates and allowances) total one third of the average Australian male wage. I can assure you that my life would have been much, MUCH easier if I had introduced a 'Daddy' to support me and my kids. In fact, changes were made to our welfare policy in 2006, to actively ENCOURAGE single mothers to get married.

Dating as a single mother is incredibly complex. There are hundreds of reasons why I chose not to get re-married and the risk of losing my benefits was not one of them! I can tell you what one of the biggest factors was: I had two children and did not want to have any more. The men I met either hadn't had children yet (and it would be horribly selfish to expect them to support mine, but not give them their own), or they had kids from a previous marriage (which leads to multiple step-parent issues, child support obligations, potential favouritism, fights with the ex, etc).

As a sex worker, I was in a perfect position to receive offers of marriage and/or support from wealthy men. I knocked them all back, because I would have been agreeing out of financial necessity, not love. People can criticise me all they like for being a dole-bludger, but I would much rather be a dole-bludger than a free-loader or gold-digger.

Dickhead
07-29-10, 05:09
Bludging is okay but all this rorting has got to stop.

Australiasucks
07-29-10, 05:24
And so she "doesn't need" a man, right? In fact the State support might dry up if she DID get serious about a man. I am reminded of an article I saw on an Irish website (no URL, Jackson) - titled "Brides Of The State". It detailed how the Irish government subsidized women in raising their out-of-wedlock children; as the article put it, "the state is able, through the so-called 'One- Parent Family Payment' scheme, to offer young women a disposable income that 99% of young men can not compete with."

I don't begrudge this support to unmarried mothers; my mom raised me by herself, and life wasn't easy for either of us. But I can't turn a blind eye to the unintended consequences of the "One-Parent Family Payment" dole: the unmarried mother won't risk her payments by looking for a "new Daddy" for her kids - and her children will be less likely to see "Daddy" and marriage as necessary, when they're ready to raise (or sire) their broods.

The unintended consequences of my childhood? I never got married; I never sired any children. And I won't.A few of the single mums that I know live in a nice comfortable 4 Bedroom home in the suburbs, has a 4x4, takes her kids to Maccas or Dominos for dinner on Fridays. I know one who is even renting a room in her house to some international students, all under the table. Compared to what I have seen in the US, Australians on average have it very good. We live in a country that is geographically isolated, blessed with rich natural resources, a stable democratic government, no enemies, a tolerant multicultural society that accepts everyone, it does not get better than Australia. Australians by and large have no right to whine.

Rubber Nursey
07-29-10, 05:33
Bludging is okay but all this rorting has got to stop.
If I could find a way to rort the system, I would have done it by now. :)

CherchezFemme
07-29-10, 09:14
Just want to say that all the frustration I expressed in my post of about a month ago is gone. I am no longer mad at American women, and at the girls ignoring me on FB, etc. I guess six days of banging 8 girls, and great times with 3 of them, will do that.

Now the only problem is that I can't stop thinking about the girls, one in particular who is pretty close to my idea of a 10. I know one of the commandments of mongering is "Don't fall in love" lol

Man I can't wait to go back to Prague in October.

Westy
07-29-10, 14:25
RN, believe me, I do understand how complex dating is for single mothers - from the complexities my Mom faced with dating, when I was a kid. Mom's life and mine would probably have been a lot easier and more comfortable if she'd found someone ... I say "probably" because I'm aware that the issues you cited could have made my life and hers quite UNcomfortable, in time.

The article I cited, "Brides Of The State," was first published by the "Inside Cork" newspaper, in 2004. It basically showed how the Irish government, out of compassion, was making it much less attractive for a single mother to look for "a new Daddy for the kids", first by giving her enough support to make sure that her little ones would lack for naught - then by tying that support to her "virtue," as one might say: "If the mother should meet a man who might have the potential to foot the bill for her, this is where the state gets really nasty. It says that if she is even seen with a man about the house she will lose all her benefits!"

To match "the dole," in the article's example, a young Irish man would have to be pulling in something on the order of €1250 a week, before taxes of about 35% for that income bracket. Roughly twice the average, as the article stated. Or, as Tony Soprano might say, "Fuggetaboutit."

So that young Irish man is shut out of family life ... and the single mother's children see "single mommy/no daddy" as normal....

(The article resides on the website of the National Men's Council of Ireland. In deference to the rules of this board, I include no URL.)

DJ FourMoney
07-29-10, 20:34
Just want to say that all the frustration I expressed in my post of about a month ago is gone. I am no longer mad at American women, and at the girls ignoring me on FB, etc. I guess six days of banging 8 girls, and great times with 3 of them, will do that.

Now the only problem is that I can't stop thinking about the girls, one in particular who is pretty close to my idea of a 10. I know one of the commandments of mongering is "Don't fall in love" lol

Man I can't wait to go back to Prague in October.

A few trips to a FKK and a freebie in Ukraine and I was good for a year or two...