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DJ FourMoney
09-06-10, 22:58
DJ. 1st Id say for what you bring to the table you shouldn't expect much. Why would any woman want to be with you. No job. Live with mommy. And over 30 without a degree. Now why would a beautiful 20 something want to be with you. What do you have to offer. Id don't say this to flame. But be real. Do expect a woman to settle. When their are obviously thousands of better choices than you.
Realistically you better lower your standards and face reality. Countries all over are having economic problems. Immigration for work is being tightened everywhere. You will not have any experience in a specialized field so. It is unlikely that you will be able to gain employment in any of those cities. And if you bring a young girl from any country to L. A.. It won't be long before she realizes you are living at the bottom of the barrel and will leave for a younger probably with a better income.
Your best bet is to search for a woman. Any woman. (children or not). And if they two of you can get along personality wise. Forget the rest and be happy. Beauty is fleeting and fades with age anyway. Guys who marry for such only set themselves up for divorce. JMHO
As I thought no solution, sign my surrender and accept my current looser status, which is far from permanent, its only temporary.
You believe I offer no MATERIAL WEALTH which is why our flawed dating system doesn't work. Marring Daddy War-bucks is no guarantee of happiness either, I think that's what your saying. Developing from nothing to mega-millions status is no guarantee either (see Frank McCourt).
You said "Any Woman"? Are you sure you; Literary "Any Woman"?
So it matters not what I desire or that my desires are flawed because you believe I'm focused solely on looks when that's not the case? I just know that I am not ugly, I do attract beautiful women on occasion and its not fleeting.
Also having children is a big factor, why would I want to hook up with a woman that has 1 or 2 children and doesn't want anymore? This happens quite a bit when the woman is over 30 and the children are basically teenagers. These women feel their time for being Mommie is almost over and just riding it out until they leave for College.
Lastly, BBW's and if I don't wish them on you, you should not wish them on me.
So as I said, no solution, recipe for complete utter unhappiness.
DJ FourMoney
09-06-10, 23:12
Have you tried the link love.mail.ru I posted some time ago? There is a bunch of FSU women who are already in USA. You may save yourself a lot of time and money, also it may cut off those prospects who will want you for green card only.
Regarding traveling to E.E. It is not a bad idea in general, but the bad news is that the longer you wait the more difficult it's gonna be.
The women there are getting more educated about the west, they have more money, they are more westernized, everybody has fast Internet access, etc... in Moscow many people have higher salaries than many Americans. Unless she is from some messed up village, many in the cities would not even wanna talk to Americans. Also some Americans have made a bad reputation there of being cheap asses.
So it is getting harder and harder to find something there for an average guy. Unless you wanna close the deal with an fat&ugly EE.W. you better have something to show to her such as good job, security, generosity etc.. They are not as naive as they used to be anymore. This sucks big time, but that's the reality.
I personally do not even wanna bother with E.E. For me it has been ruined during the past 10-15 years. I'm looking further east and south where still family and other traditions exist. Also feminism is not welcomed there.
I get what your saying and I agree time is running out. I say in another decade it will be harder than it is now. Ukraine is getting pummeled with Western Men because of its lax Visa requirements. This is why I am considering Russia only, the Visa requirement means that tours by the largest of Western based companies have stopped having tours because of this alone.
I will have my economics situation solved by the time I go, do not worry. But the planning and research is necessary.
I also haven't given up on Western Europe. Goga Fong I will say this B, "Game Recognizes Game" Green Card Hunters and Gold Diggers will not get past me. I have seldom fallen for the "Okie Doke".
ThatGuy865
09-06-10, 23:41
I get what your saying and I agree time is running out. I say in another decade it will be harder than it is now. Ukraine is getting pummeled with Western Men because of its lax Visa requirements. This is why I am considering Russia only, the Visa requirement means that tours by the largest of Western based companies have stopped having tours because of this alone.
I will have my economics situation solved by the time I go, do not worry. But the planning and research is necessary.
I also haven't given up on Western Europe. Goga Fong I will say this B, "Game Recognizes Game" Green Card Hunters and Gold Diggers will not get past me. I have seldom fallen for the "Okie Doke".DJ you are just plain dillusional if you think in 5yrs time you will have enough money to live in another country. Starting from absolute nothing right now. You don't even have a job to get started today. What do you think you are going to jumb right into a lucrative paying job with no experience. Or that youd be able to jump out of school and overseas and get a job with no experience. Ludicrous. But keep dream. As jesse Jackson says. Keep hope alive.
I guess you were right. You in a looser world with little hope of escape. Your expectation and requirements have place you in a hole that you have little chance of escaping. Someday. You will realize you wasted a lot of time. Chasing a dream which was not meant to be.
Yes there are women with kids who don't want any more. But there are plenty in their 20s who have kids and would have more if they met the right person. Then you have women who might now be models. That have scrificed for a career, who are in their 30s with no kids looking to marry and raise a family. So their are options available. You just have to be open and opportunities are all around you. As far as available women. And they all are not fat. There are avg looking women with great bodies who just wanted a career.
Bango Cheito
09-07-10, 02:37
I never once have said ANYWHERE on this forum that Colombian women are easier than American women. As a matter of fact I've said the exact opposite. The women here are harder to get in bed with, they have higher standards and take a longer time before they give it up physically for a man ON AVERAGE. As a matter of fact, I have dated dozens of women here now since my last separation almost a year and a half ago... and not even among the few semi-pros I date, not ONE of them fucked on the first date.
HOWEVER.... the women here are better QUALITY. They are brighter, nicer, and much better in bed when they DO find you worthy of the deed. They are also much better looking on average, better dressed, better conversationalists, funnier, more well-informed etc. It's all about quality and not quality.
FURTHERMORE... the rich girls here are the sluttier ones (although almost always it's kept very much on the DL)... the poor ones are the ones more likely to be suspicious of any man not from their inner circle. This is probably why most Colombians have fucked at least one of their cousins. :P Not to mention the richer girls are more materialistic because they have to meet a very high monthly nut if they live in an expensive neighborhood, and often there just aren't the opportunities on the normal job market to make it happen. People who live in the poorer neighborhoods often live surprisingly OK, and they can do it on practically air... so it's a very different dynamic than what one might expect...
Most people have a very skewed perception of Colombia, especially as Americans, because they tend to believe all the bullshit their internet girlfriends tell them. One big truth about women here is that they lie through their teeth all the time, they lie pathologically, they even lie to themselves habitually. And men lie too, and the biggest shit talker gets the most pussy. Women here LOVE men who lie to them even more than they love lying.
And there is no such thing as a faithful relationship here in Colombia. People who think they are coming here to find June Fucking Cleaver are really REALLY barking up the wrong fucking tree. There is no marriage or any other relationship that matters two shits in the face of a few beers (and maybe some blow) and a nice body, or some cash flashed in a girl's face, or a good couple of pickup lines, or whatever combination of the three.
The medical care here is very good and I no longer have to be biting my nails living without insurance like I did in the USA. It costs me a whopping $32 a month for FULL COVERAGE, and I can get seen within a few days by the GP and usually within 1-2 weeks by the specialist. The food as I previously mentioned is so much better than the fucking GARBAGE people are forced to eat in the US I won't even get into it. Crime is bad but not to the point where it really affects my freedom to move about, I still go where I want and do what I want at the hour I want.
I'm here mainly for professional reasons, and I found many things I like way better about living here. The women (although harder to get) are just a bonus...
First off basing a place to live solely on women. Is not what I would consider smart
The problem is you have to take all the rest those countries have to offer along with the women. Which is crappy 3rd world facilities, supply of food, medical services and the lack there of, lack of any serious security for you. How diligent would the police be. Even if you did report a crime. Without a payoff.
The top countries would be 3rd world countries. And 3rd world countries are usually the ones mongers talk about women looking and behaving the way they like women to act. You think there might be a correlation between poverity and the ability of a women to make it on her own. Yes the women act the way they do because of mainly necessity and that necessity has also instilled a culture of dependency on marriage and family. If not. Then why is it when these women get to a 1st country and given the opportunity the quickly embrace the attitudes and qualities of a 1st world woman. Its because economics and financial and legal means have empowered them.
The bottom line is we mongers. Myself included. Reap the benefits of economically disadvantage women. Pure and simple. If the economics were equal in these countries the woman would be much more selective. You don't read about mongers getting upper middle income women from these countries. Which would be equalivent to our middle income.
TG telling it like it is. Ya dig
ThatGuy865
09-07-10, 03:36
I never once have said ANYWHERE on this forum that Colombian women are easier than American women. As a matter of fact I've said the exact opposite. The women here are harder to get in bed with, they have higher standards and take a longer time before they give it up physically for a man ON AVERAGE. As a matter of fact, I have dated dozens of women here now since my last separation almost a year and a half ago. And not even among the few semi-pros I date, not ONE of them fucked on the first date.
HOWEVER. The women here are better QUALITY. They are brighter, nicer, and much better in bed when they DO find you worthy of the deed. They are also much better looking on average, better dressed, better conversationalists, funnier, more well-informed etc. It's all about quality and not quality.
FURTHERMORE. The rich girls here are the sluttier ones (although almost always it's kept very much on the DL). The poor ones are the ones more likely to be suspicious of any man not from their inner circle. This is probably why most Colombians have fucked at least one of their cousins. Not to mention the richer girls are more materialistic because they have to meet a very high monthly nut if they live in an expensive neighborhood, and often there just aren't the opportunities on the normal job market to make it happen. People who live in the poorer neighborhoods often live surprisingly OK, and they can do it on practically air. So it's a very different dynamic than what one might expect.
Most people have a very skewed perception of Colombia, especially as Americans, because they tend to believe all the bullshit their internet girlfriends tell them. One big truth about women here is that they lie through their teeth all the time, they lie pathologically, they even lie to themselves habitually. And men lie too, and the biggest shit talker gets the most pussy. Women here LOVE men who lie to them even more than they love lying.
And there is no such thing as a faithful relationship here in Colombia. People who think they are coming here to find June Fucking Cleaver are really REALLY barking up the wrong fucking tree. There is no marriage or any other relationship that matters two shits in the face of a few beers (and maybe some blow) and a nice body, or some cash flashed in a girl's face, or a good couple of pickup lines, or whatever combination of the three.
The medical care here is very good and I no longer have to be biting my nails living without insurance like I did in the USA. It costs me a whopping $32 a month for FULL COVERAGE, and I can get seen within a few days by the GP and usually within 1-2 weeks by the specialist. The food as I previously mentioned is so much better than the fucking GARBAGE people are forced to eat in the US I won't even get into it. Crime is bad but not to the point where it really affects my freedom to move about, I still go where I want and do what I want at the hour I want.
I'm here mainly for professional reasons, and I found many things I like way better about living here. The women (although harder to get) are just a bonus.ok. Lets deal with what you just said. Even with insurance it takes a couple of days to see a GP. Well I have insurance in the USA thru my job. I pay about $50 a month. So a little more than you. But I can see a GP the same day I call. And a specialist whenever the need. No wait.
Food quality. There is no place that has better quality or variety than in the USA. Its about choices. The people who are fat in the US are not fat because the don't have choices of good food. They chose fatten food because of laziness, convience, (most of it being processed prepackage foods) microwave and eat and some economics, its cheaper and eaiser to buy a Mcdonalds meal for kids than wholesome food which has to be cooked. It isn't because healthy food isn't available or abundant.
Bango Cheito
09-07-10, 08:00
So in other words you're one of the lucky few who's employers subsidize your health insurance. I'm self employed. The same level of coverage would cost me at LEAST $800 on the open market in the US. Here I don't have to choose between eating, having health insurance, or being a slave to some corporation.
And no, sorry US food is NOT healthy. It's far from fresh, it's all been treated, dryed injected or otherwise fucked with. Here food is REALLY fresh. Ask any immigrant how SICK they got coming to the US and eating that trash!
DJ FourMoney
09-07-10, 09:18
DJ you are just plain dillusional if you think in 5yrs time you will have enough money to live in another country. Starting from absolute nothing right now. You don't even have a job to get started today. What do you think you are going to jumb right into a lucrative paying job with no experience. Or that youd be able to jump out of school and overseas and get a job with no experience. Ludicrous. But keep dream. As jesse Jackson says. Keep hope alive.
I guess you were right. You in a looser world with little hope of escape. Your expectation and requirements have place you in a hole that you have little chance of escaping. Someday. You will realize you wasted a lot of time. Chasing a dream which was not meant to be.
Yes there are women with kids who don't want any more. But there are plenty in their 20s who have kids and would have more if they met the right person. Then you have women who might now be models. That have scrificed for a career, who are in their 30s with no kids looking to marry and raise a family. So their are options available. You just have to be open and opportunities are all around you. As far as available women. And they all are not fat. There are avg looking women with great bodies who just wanted a career.
No you are WRONG, you don't read enough because your not interested. By the time I get my certifications and a year or so of experience I could leave. I would say where but you would scoff at it anyway so there's no use in telling you any different.
I am not the only one unemployed here, I am the only one on the forum willing to admit that I am.
I like White Women, my options are naturally narrow. Especially when you add in things that I think the other 49 states suck and don't want to relocate to another state. I already know women up to 41-42 yr old that still want to have children, never married. Well why should I do that? Its not any more economically affordable, it cost about the same. If I have to pay, why not pay for what I want?
There are fewer and fewer late 20's single mothers, I look almost everyday. They stop at 30-35. Sure I could contact them, I don't look my age but whatever most AW are not adjustable it seems. Of course Single Mothers don't have much choice or at least not as much as they maybe should have.
I shouldn't be made to accept Single Mothers, that's basically what your saying. There are more late 20's, early 30's women in Western Europe and Eastern that have done what you just said; finish school, start their career and are not looking for somebody. Much easier to find there than here, its just the facts man, I don't make this up, my eyes are wide open.
I can give you examples of women that contact me and MAYBE I could be more aggressive locally but I don't really want too. I could relocate to Canada with my homie, but I rather not and its cold.
DJ FourMoney
09-07-10, 09:27
So in other words you're one of the lucky few who's employers subsidize your health insurance. I'm self employed. The same level of coverage would cost me at LEAST $800 on the open market in the US. Here I don't have to choose between eating, having health insurance, or being a slave to some corporation.
And no, sorry US food is NOT healthy. It's far from fresh, it's all been treated, dryed injected or otherwise fucked with. Here food is REALLY fresh. Ask any immigrant how SICK they got coming to the US and eating that trash!
Oh just save it BC, he's a Nationalist. You're just a bittermen living in Colombia and I'm just some dude that won't take his medicine, face the music and make lemonade with lemons.
And to drive it further home that Money doesn't not solve everything but as Biggie said "More Money, More Problems" - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39026848/ns/health-behavior/
Food quality. There is no place that has better quality or variety than in the USA. Its about choices. The people who are fat in the US are not fat because the don't have choices of good food. They chose fatten food because of laziness, convience, (most of it being processed prepackage foods) microwave and eat and some economics, its cheaper and eaiser to buy a Mcdonalds meal for kids than wholesome food which has to be cooked. It isn't because healthy food isn't available or abundant.I agree there are many choices, there is bad and good food in USA. And USA(in cities) has good variety of international cuisines. Also now days supermarket food is very similar in many countries.
So what you are saying, there are "choices" and "possibilities" in USA - to eat good food, not to be fat and disgusting, to make lots of money, to meet nice and beautiful girls, etc.. - it is possible of course.
But what is the probability one can make it? The probability is next to 0 in USA to accomplish all of that. Most people are lazy, fat, most women are ugly with nasty behavior, no culture, strictly consumerism society, etc..
Even though you can make it for yourself, you still live in the same society where you still must watch all the fat woman around and get disgusted and sick from the view everyday. You can make it for yourself but cannot make others doing that.
I've been visiting some places, which are still a different world, women's normal marriage age 18-25, they are also supposed to be virgin, otherwise their chances to get married successfully get worse. Of course not everybody is doing that, but fucking around before marriage is not considered cool for women. Divorse rates are very low.
Everybody has own tastes and preferences I would prefer a traditional woman from the latter place. While they are still modern in many ways, educated and very beautiful, some have photomodel bodies but still modest, like to cook, want to have family, children etc.. - no way one can find this in a USA/West type of place. Yes, for sure some American girls look good or kinda ok, but when they open their mouths too often a lot of shit is coming out.
It was recently reported that portion servings in restaurants about 15-20 years ago were on 9 inch plates. Today it's 12 inches. Yes, the food industry, discount food markets selling high sugar, high calorie, high salt ingredients in their products plus the competition to attract dinner guests are all causes of obesity in America, Europe and elsewhere. Must not forget the lack of exercise. It's an epedemic without proper remedy.
I recommend reading the "Eat This, Not That" book series. Highly informative about what we put in our mouths besides female anatomy.
Gentleman Travel
09-07-10, 19:44
I recommend reading the "Eat This, Not That" book series. Highly informative about what we put in our mouths besides female anatomy.
Well, maybe, but even the kinds of choices it advises shows how low the bar is.
Like they recommend a Big Mac over a Whopper, choosing less obscene caramel coffee mixes, which fries or onion rings have less fat. But it is all a "lesser of evils" approach, intended to appeal to those who cannot imagine life without fast food and frozen dinners.
Here's a clue - don't eat any of it! Cook your own food. The most decadent hamburger you are going to cook at home isn't going to compete with ANY fast food burger in calories or fat or cost. Eat fruit for dessert and save a zillion calories. Drink coffee or tea, not sugary faux-coffee confections. Walk to the coffee shop/food store/restaurant. That is the difference between North American diets and other countries - home cooked food and exercise.
DJ FourMoney
09-07-10, 21:00
Well, maybe, but even the kinds of choices it advises shows how low the bar is.
Like they recommend a Big Mac over a Whopper, choosing less obscene caramel coffee mixes, which fries or onion rings have less fat. But it is all a "lesser of evils" approach, intended to appeal to those who cannot imagine life without fast food and frozen dinners.
Here's a clue - don't eat any of it! Cook your own food. The most decadent hamburger you are going to cook at home isn't going to compete with ANY fast food burger in calories or fat or cost. Eat fruit for dessert and save a zillion calories. Drink coffee or tea, not sugary faux-coffee confections. Walk to the coffee shop/food store/restaurant. That is the difference between North American diets and other countries - home cooked food and exercise.
We've also had a backlash again PE in school because people don't want other children to make fun of their obese children when they can't run as fast or jump as high as others.
You also have to remember we have an actual Fat Acceptance Campaign in which they are trying to insert BBW's and BHM into the media to soften public opinion of overweight people. Thank goodness Hollywood has given them token support with different tv shows and movies. But just like Hollywood likes to avoid things like successful Interracial Coupes, they avoid the Overweight issue or make light of it.
Unlike some people around here we can stem the tide of this nonsense by just not dating BBW's. Over all else don't impregnate them!
As for eating at home, given how many post-modern women even bother to learn how to cook, there's almost no hope. We're just lucky so many women feel pressured into looking thin, looking healthy, go to the gym. But they feel they are special because of this extra effort they put into themselves.
Our portions are larger than ever I don't disagree with that, but people don't get to be 200-300lbs by eating three meals a day. They get that way fighting boredom and depression. There is also much false advertisement by food companies and only sometimes is the FDA doing its job and enforcing regulation, but isn't that like any Government agency in the last 20-30 years?
Ummm maybe if not too many women know how to cook you should learn to do it yourself? The vast majority of professional cooks are men, of course. And, of course, when I was a professional cook I worked with a few women, and, of course, they often tried to get out of the heavier jobs such as changing the fryer oil and cleaning the grill hoods. And, of course, I didn't let them.
I once worked with a female basketball ref who didn't want to throw up the jump ball. I put the ball in her hands, said "Equal pay for equal work," and ran to baseline position.
ThatGuy865
09-08-10, 03:20
So in other words you're one of the lucky few who's employers subsidize your health insurance. I'm self employed. The same level of coverage would cost me at LEAST $800 on the open market in the US. Here I don't have to choose between eating, having health insurance, or being a slave to some corporation.
And no, sorry US food is NOT healthy. It's far from fresh, it's all been treated, dryed injected or otherwise fucked with. Here food is REALLY fresh. Ask any immigrant how SICK they got coming to the US and eating that trash!First of all, the USA imports alot of its food from various sources. Outside of america. Also maybe those who don't look for quality food. Eat poorly. But the organic market and local farmer markets are everywhere now. Small farmers who do NOT use pesticides and chemicals. So you are just plain wrong on that point.
And what makes you think farmers in Colombia don't use pesticides and chemicals. Especially big farms. Do you know for a fact.
Obesity in the US has to do with laziness. No one walks anywhere. We have remote controls for every device now. So you don't have to move at all. Besides the abundance of fast food places. Which sell the most delicious but ridiculously fattening meals. So the combination of the two are a reciepe for fattness.
ThatGuy865
09-08-10, 03:46
Everybody has own tastes and preferences I would prefer a traditional woman from the latter place. While they are still modern in many ways, educated and very beautiful, some have photomodel bodies but still modest, like to cook, want to have family, children etc.. No way one can find this in a USA/West type of place. Yes, for sure some American girls look good or kinda ok, but when they open their mouths too often a lot of shit is coming out.If that is your preference. Then go for it. I wish you nothing but the best. And hope it works out for you.
See the difference between you and me. Is I may not like a fat woman. But I won't put a guy down who does nor the woman for being fat. Thats their life and if they are happy fine. Have I seen big woman that I thought were beautiful. Indeed I have. And would date one too.
I have seen ugly skinny women. Indeed I have. But if a guy wants to date her I wouldn't say a word. Its what he likes that counts. Not me.
So when you guys say. Guys in america are getting shafted or don't know they could have it better. Well whos to say. All you can say it would be better for you. Obviously there are plenty of guys happier than a pig in shit. With their so called big wives. Wouldn't leave them for nothing. So why is that a problem. There are yes plenty of fat women in america. And guess what. Just as many fat men too.
So if you are happy. Where ever you are. So be it. But that doesn't mean the men who are in the USA agree. They just might be happier than that pig. Being with what you would call fat AW
DJ FourMoney
09-08-10, 04:25
Ummm maybe if not too many women know how to cook you should learn to do it yourself? The vast majority of professional cooks are men, of course. And, of course, when I was a professional cook I worked with a few women, and, of course, they often tried to get out of the heavier jobs such as changing the fryer oil and cleaning the grill hoods. And, of course, I didn't let them.
I once worked with a female basketball ref who didn't want to throw up the jump ball. I put the ball in her hands, said "Equal pay for equal work," and ran to baseline position.
I know how to cook, Home Economics is one of the few things I remember about Jr High.
I'm not a scratch cooker but so what, there's enough information out there to know what to do, as long as you understand Tea Spoon and Table Spoon.
But to women that should be a bonus, an unexpected surprise.
If you can't cook from scratch you do not know how to cook. Pure and simple. Cooking is an art (although baking is a science) while following a recipe is just like knowing how to change the oil in your car or something. But if you know a teaspoon from a tablespoon you are probably ahead of most AW. I say without a trace of hesitation that I am in the top 5% of cooks world-wide and not only is it a good way to get women, it's an even better way to keep them. Plus I know nutrition and sanitation. You get a woman to come to your house for dinner, you fix her chicken cordon bleu for dinner and then eggs benedict with real holandaise for breakfast, she will tend to come back.
Three of the times I dumped a woman I had been seeing for a long time, they said, "Okay. I sure will miss your cooking, though."
I don't cook for AW too much any more because most of them won't do the dishes afterwards and often when they do, they do a half-ass job.
Bango Cheito
09-08-10, 06:37
If you can't cook from scratch you do not know how to cook. Pure and simple. Cooking is an art (although baking is a science) while following a recipe is just like knowing how to change the oil in your car or something. But if you know a teaspoon from a tablespoon you are probably ahead of most AW. I say without a trace of hesitation that I am in the top 5% of cooks world-wide and not only is it a good way to get women, it's an even better way to keep them. Plus I know nutrition and sanitation. You get a woman to come to your house for dinner, you fix her chicken cordon bleu for dinner and then eggs benedict with real holandaise for breakfast, she will tend to come back.
Three of the times I dumped a woman I had been seeing for a long time, they said, "Okay. I sure will miss your cooking, though."
I don't cook for AW too much any more because most of them won't do the dishes afterwards and often when they do, they do a half-ass job.
I love the shit out of cooking and can cook up a storm... but I think the best way to keep a woman coming back is to be good in bed... the vast majority of Colombian woman will NEVER fuck a bad lay twice unless they have some material interest....
http://eatthis.womenshealthmag.com/slide/worst-energy-drink-0?slideshow=184612#title
20 worst drinks in America, just this one above is equal to 6 donuts
At the top of the list the amount of calories & sugar in these is INSANE.
No wonder women are cows in America.
Maybe we need an "American Food" thread.
OK back to American Women...
Left to Right: Princess of Spain, First Lady of France, Michelle Obama
#1, #2, or #3?
OK back to American Women...
Left to Right: Princess of Spain, First Lady of France, Michelle Obama
#1, #2, or #3?
My god ! Right on ! You are a master of communication Jon32 !
Journeyfree
09-08-10, 16:31
My god ! Right on ! You are a master of communication Jon32 !Good comparison. I'm a bit biased being in a long term relationship with a hot German girl who used to model when she was younger.
I know this is the bash American women thread. But to be more fair, you are comparing two younger, former TV personality/model to someone who was a lawyer graduated from harvard and Yale. And based on my experience with models, they do seem to know how to stay slim. Even some "purging" if necessary. I wouldn't assume that of the stereotypical women lawyers.
Jf
My god ! Right on ! You are a master of communication Jon32 !Although, Princess Letizia of Spain and Carla Bruni are hotter than any past or present US first lady, the photo has been doctored. What appears to be an image of Michelle Obama has been pasted into the photo. An observant person can easily see the repetitive granular patterns on the steps (to the right) as well as the cropped hair and blacked-out right corner of the photo.
Yes, a photo can say a 1,000 words and a doctored photo can say many more.
-Helpmann :)
Australiasucks
09-08-10, 17:20
OK back to American Women...
Left to Right: Princess of Spain, First Lady of France, Michelle Obama
#1, #2, or #3?The first two not the last one!
Although, Princess Letizia of Spain and Carla Bruni are hotter than any past or present US first lady, the photo has been doctored. What appears to be an image of Michelle Obama has been pasted into the photo. An observant person can easily see the repetitive granular patterns on the steps (to the right) as well as the cropped hair and blacked-out right corner of the photo.
Yes, a photo can say a 1,000 words and a doctored photo can say many more.
-Helpmann :)
Congrats Helpmann. Yes, it is well clear that the photos have been doctored. You are right on too.
Still, the comparison between the three ladies is striking. Which lady would you want to put in your bed ?
Congrats Helpmann. Yes, it is well clear that the photos have been doctored. You are right on too.
Still, the comparison between the three ladies is striking. Which lady would you want to put in your bed ?Personally, Michelle Obama is one of the more attractive US first ladies in recent memory; however that's not saying very much. Her most recent predecessors were Laura Bush, Hillary Clinton, and Barbara Bush. Yuck!
Nevertheless, Princess Letizia of Spain is much much more my type.
-Helpmann :)
DJ FourMoney
09-09-10, 03:43
If you can't cook from scratch you do not know how to cook. Pure and simple. Cooking is an art (although baking is a science) while following a recipe is just like knowing how to change the oil in your car or something. But if you know a teaspoon from a tablespoon you are probably ahead of most AW. I say without a trace of hesitation that I am in the top 5% of cooks world-wide and not only is it a good way to get women, it's an even better way to keep them. Plus I know nutrition and sanitation. You get a woman to come to your house for dinner, you fix her chicken cordon bleu for dinner and then eggs benedict with real holandaise for breakfast, she will tend to come back.
Three of the times I dumped a woman I had been seeing for a long time, they said, "Okay. I sure will miss your cooking, though."
I don't cook for AW too much any more because most of them won't do the dishes afterwards and often when they do, they do a half-ass job.
That's kind of harsh, I like cooking but not for anybody else ATM 1), 2) pinch and dash is sign of a scratch cooker I guess, but following directions is perfectly okay for me. If the taste isn't quite what I thought, you experiment.
But I can do anything, cut meat, stuff turkey, BBQ, bake cakes which is made from a mix, I am not going to go through the process of scratch when nobody is going to know the difference unless they are a pastry chief.
If you can't cook from scratch you do not know how to cook. Pure and simple. Cooking is an art (although baking is a science) while following a recipe is just like knowing how to change the oil in your car or something. But if you know a teaspoon from a tablespoon you are probably ahead of most AW. I say without a trace of hesitation that I am in the top 5% of cooks world-wide and not only is it a good way to get women, it's an even better way to keep them. Plus I know nutrition and sanitation. You get a woman to come to your house for dinner, you fix her chicken cordon bleu for dinner and then eggs benedict with real holandaise for breakfast, she will tend to come back.
Three of the times I dumped a woman I had been seeing for a long time, they said, "Okay. I sure will miss your cooking, though."
I don't cook for AW too much any more because most of them won't do the dishes afterwards and often when they do, they do a half-ass job.
So True!!! Well said DH.
American woman, stay away from me
American woman, mama let me be
Don't come hanging around my door
I don't want to see your face no more
I got more important things to do
Than spend my time growin' old with you
Now woman, stay away
American woman, listen what I say
American woman...
How Debt Can Destroy a Budding Relationship (http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110604/how-debt-can-destroy-a-budding-relationship)
-Helpmann ;)
How Debt Can Destroy a Budding Relationship (http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110604/how-debt-can-destroy-a-budding-relationship)
-Helpmann ;)
Ewwwwwww.
If that "Ms. Tidwell" whose photo leads the article might be put off my my 56-year-old bald head and potbelly, believe you me - the distaste I feel for her quarter-million dollars of debt would make the feeling mutual.
One of the conditions I set for my retirement is that I wouldn't have any debt. I paid off my mortgage a year before I retired; I'd paid off all my credit cards and my home-equity line of credit well before then. I proved to myself that I could live "within my (reduced/retired) means" before I asked HR to process my retirement.
Now, I own my home outright. Same for my car and my boat. I've got a nice nest-egg and a decent Civil Service pension, and I'm saving nearly 1/4 of my monthly retirement check.
This article presents just another Good Reason to keep my fly zipped while I'm in the USA. Call it "Homeland Security." :p
bake cakes which is made from a mix, I am not going to go through the process of scratch when nobody is going to know the difference unless they are a pastry chief.
I rest my case. With all due respect, anyone who can't tell a scratch cake from a pre-fab cake from a mix is not a cook. I think even most non-cooks would know the difference, assuming they have EVER had a scratch cake which is by no means a given, in this day and age. So how do you make your turkey stuffing?
This is sort of off-topic and sort of not because the lack of home cooking is one of the many issues with AW. It's an example of how they want it both ways. They want to be respected for being a woman but they can't do any of the things women have traditionally been able to do. And if you ask them to sew a button on they get pissed off. But they expect you to change the flat tire.
This is sort of off-topic and sort of not because the lack of home cooking is one of the many issues with AW. It's an example of how they want it both ways. They want to be respected for being a woman but they can't do any of the things women have traditionally been able to do. And if you ask them to sew a button on they get pissed off. But they expect you to change the flat tire.
Everytime I want to cook, my Spanish novia jumps up and says "No! I cook, I'm the woman!"
Take note American women...
DJ FourMoney
09-10-10, 12:12
I rest my case. With all due respect, anyone who can't tell a scratch cake from a pre-fab cake from a mix is not a cook. I think even most non-cooks would know the difference, assuming they have EVER had a scratch cake which is by no means a given, in this day and age. So how do you make your turkey stuffing?
This is sort of off-topic and sort of not because the lack of home cooking is one of the many issues with AW. It's an example of how they want it both ways. They want to be respected for being a woman but they can't do any of the things women have traditionally been able to do. And if you ask them to sew a button on they get pissed off. But they expect you to change the flat tire.
From scratch actually, mother's recipe. Nothing secret about it. I work on cars, I've worked on cars since high school, I've rebuilt engines, I've put everything on my SRT-4 = 400+hp. I used to work at Manny, Moe and Jack.
There are things I can do from scratch I just rather not. I am wasting my talent on sub-par local women and old ass women.
Robert1110
09-11-10, 18:07
I only cook when I prefer. I never have dirty clothes, my clothing is always ironed. My shoes are shined. Everything is made from scratch, everything that needs mending is mended.
She made me 3 pairs of the best fitting underwear I've ever worn. House is always clean.
Cuts my hair, manicures my nails and other appearance maintenance.
Whenever she brings home money, she gives it to me and I decide what to let her keep.
I'm 54 and average looking, she is 27 and a beauty. I'm often asked, "Is she a model? "
She is often asked "Is he your Dad? "
American women? Waste of natural resources.
You are one lucky dude! Is she living with you in the U.S.A? If so, enjoy it while it lasts.
I only cook when I prefer. I never have dirty clothes, my clothing is always ironed. My shoes are shined. Everything is made from scratch, everything that needs mending is mended.
She made me 3 pairs of the best fitting underwear I've ever worn. House is always clean.
Cuts my hair, manicures my nails and other appearance maintenance.
Whenever she brings home money, she gives it to me and I decide what to let her keep.
I'm 54 and average looking, she is 27 and a beauty. I'm often asked, "Is she a model? "
She is often asked "Is he your Dad? "
American women? Waste of natural resources.
ThatGuy865
09-12-10, 14:54
You are one lucky dude! Is she living with you in the U.S.A? If so, enjoy it while it lasts.If he is in the USA. I sure hope he was smart enough to move to like po dump idaho or someplace like that. Definitely not one of the top 10 metros. Cause as you say. Enjoy while it last.
ThatGuy865
09-13-10, 03:41
I only cook when I prefer. I never have dirty clothes, my clothing is always ironed. My shoes are shined. Everything is made from scratch, everything that needs mending is mended.
She made me 3 pairs of the best fitting underwear I've ever worn. House is always clean.
Cuts my hair, manicures my nails and other appearance maintenance.
Whenever she brings home money, she gives it to me and I decide what to let her keep.
I'm 54 and average looking, she is 27 and a beauty. I'm often asked, "Is she a model? "
She is often asked "Is he your Dad? "
American women? Waste of natural resources.Wow sounds like you needed a servant and you wonder why AW don't line up for that life style. And then if you divorce. Youll be one who says dam she didn't pay for one thing in the place and I have to split with her. Because working like a servant is want she was meant to do. Right. Its nature. Right
DJ FourMoney
09-13-10, 09:52
Wow sounds like you needed a servant and you wonder why AW don't line up for that life style. And then if you divorce. Youll be one who says dam she didn't pay for one thing in the place and I have to split with her. Because working like a servant is want she was meant to do. Right. Its nature. Right
Okay TG and then what would your ideal relationship look like with an Down to Earth, Non-Materialistic Woman who's attractive?
A Powerfully RARE combination these days to start with.
How long are you going to spend searching for this woman? Could it be days, weeks, years, decades?
You have the nerve to tell me that I bring nothing to the table like I have never earned anything, never worked an hour, never did any difficult work.
You accuse me of idealistic notions, childish fantasies and say I should just play with the hand I'm dealt with or shut up and be alone.
I'm tired of your Nationalist, Jingoistic BS you always post here and use poor examples of like a majority of American men are happy with their choices. That can't be the case and has sheep American People are not fully aware of all their options. Also misery loves company, others don't want you to succeed and what you to remain where they are.
This is why the media does what it does and then claims to be "Fair and Balanced". No they are Bias towards anything America, America is the best at this or the best at that. Its bullshit. You only hear about the K-1 Relationships that fail, not the ones that successful.
Believe it or not there are women out there they care enough about the man that love to do things like what Robert said. That's not being a slave and further makes me feel you're actually a Woman or Mangina.
You make no sense and I hope you don't make money as a consultant...
Wow sounds like you needed a servant and you wonder why AW don't line up for that life style. And then if you divorce. Youll be one who says dam she didn't pay for one thing in the place and I have to split with her. Because working like a servant is want she was meant to do. Right. Its nature. Right
Robert's experience, as related, sounds like "a dream come true" for many of us. Probably most of us. And of course, that's what makes it repugnant to our resident "feminazi's lapdog." Probably got a mail-order P. H. Diddly certificate in Kiss-A** Feminist Consulting from the Germaine Greer Institute for Waspish WASP Women hanging over his desk.
"A majority of American men" don't know better than to "be content" with their AW "choices". Demographically, the majority of American men were in their childhood, or they weren't even born yet, when the "Feminist Revolution" stormed the halls of power. And they grew up with the results. They end up like the people who go to Burger King because "(you can) have it your way;" they're eating the same fast-food crap, but they have the power to say "No pickles." Wow.
Give the devil her due - my last USA girlfriend was a feminist, and while she was girlfriending with me she was nice. She did nice things for me, she did nice things with me. But when I finished remodeling the bathroom in the new house she'd bought for herself, she decided I'd been around long enough. "Sayonara, Westy!"
If he is in the USA. I sure hope he was smart enough to move to like po dump idaho or someplace like that. Definitely not one of the top 10 metros. Cause as you say. Enjoy while it last.
TG you have the wrong attitude. IF (if not when) these girls leave or get older, you recycle for a younger one.
You have been to South America and do not speak Spanish...
If someone went to America for two weeks without speaking a word of English, that would not be a very good opinion on the place.
It is impossible for someone to understand the culture (or women) of these places without even knowing the language they speak when they visited.
ThatGuy865
09-14-10, 01:08
Ok fellas
Let me respond. First DJ. Whether you have ever had money or things its where you are at now. There are homeless ex millionares. You don't expect a woman to say well he used to be rich so. The fact that hes homeless now doesn't matter. You are broke now. Unemployed. Living at mommas house. So why would a grown woman who is making money settle for a guy that would/could be a burden. What do you bring to the relationship. You say you are not even great looking. So why would she want you. I don't say give. But if you are broke at least workout. Get your body in the best shape you can. Then you at least have something going for you. Besides why no an avg girl. I don't say she has to be fat but whats wrong with avg.
For the rest of you. Cave man days are over.
Jon. As far as knowing the language and culture. Well I speak enough spanish to get by. But my question to you is. If this is part of their natural culture. How is that you can't find one in america then like that. There are thousands of women in america from all those countries, why do they so easily accept american way/values, if they love those ways so much. Why do you have to go to their 3rd world country where they are really financially deprived, why isn't there upper middle and wealthy like that if it is their culture.
They have been taught to live like that because their mothers and grandmothrers had to depend on a man for income. So they HAD to do accept that role to keep a man. So its been passed down. One oppressed parent to the child. As they know no other way. Its the same mentality of women in saudi arabia saying they like burguas. Well if thats all you know and have no way to escape it. Sure you have to learn to accept it as a way of life.
AW were like that in the 50s. Until they started getting educated, jobs, then they realized their value and it blew up from there.
Jingoistic. I like it. You go DJ! Now I got the cougars in the gym coming on to me and I am so not interested. I told one today she was a little too old for me (that was after her third overture and she asked me what was the problem) and she got all red in the face and shit.
For the rest of you. Cave man days are over.
Jon. As far as knowing the language and culture. Well I speak enough spanish to get by. But my question to you is. If this is part of their natural culture. How is that you can't find one in america then like that. There are thousands of women in america from all those countries, why do they so easily accept american way/values, if they love those ways so much. Why do you have to go to their 3rd world country where they are really financially deprived, why isn't there upper middle and wealthy like that if it is their culture.
They have been taught to live like that because their mothers and grandmothrers had to depend on a man for income. So they HAD to do accept that role to keep a man. So its been passed down. One oppressed parent to the child. As they know no other way. Its the same mentality of women in saudi arabia saying they like burguas. Well if thats all you know and have no way to escape it. Sure you have to learn to accept it as a way of life.
AW were like that in the 50s. Until they started getting educated, jobs, then they realized their value and it blew up from there.
Maybe you could find one in America. They adapt quickly once they see what having a pussy gets there.
I had an ex-novia from Brazil when I was living in prison. When we first started she talked all the time how Brazil was better... She got some Americana friends and a few years later, I did not want to be with her anymore. It was too much like dating an American and not a Brazilian.
That experience taught me to go to the source of the country for women. I started traveling, found this board and have not looked back.
AW in Sex Prison are trained by their friends, TV, magazines, internet that they have the honey pot and the AM will stop at nothing if he "believes' that he will be rewarded. It does not matter where she was born, nearly all learn this reality really quick. In all the other male playgrounds, if she does not toe the line, SHE won't get rewarded. The reward could be dinner, sex, home, jewelry, you name it.
Here is the catch. In Sex Prison, all women want the rewards without giving any benefits to the men. That is the whole "Party" scene in most clubs: Guys buying girls drinks in the hopes of having some contact with the girl; girls are there to get all the drinks they wish without giving guys anything for their efforts. I know, it is just one scene, a pathetic one, but think of all the other situations where all our efforts get rebuffed because AWs have a scroll long list of reasons they won't get intimate or they won't even try to get acquainted? Frankly, I found the reversal of roles refreshing in my favorite playgrounds.
It may take a long time to get out of here from time to time, but I guarantee that within minutes of arriving at my favorite destinations I have many open minded options available, willing to satisfy my every need. In my jailcell here in Sex Prison, I count the days until I can "Go outside and play". Like a prisoner, I mark an X over the days on the calendar that I am wasting here. At least I have my job to keep me focused on my priorities. Nothing can change the harsh reality and depressing script that the dating scene in the USA has become. Only if you are foolish or ignorant will you limit your options to what is available here.
Maybe you could find one in America. They adapt quickly once they see what having a pussy gets there.
I had an ex-novia from Brazil when I was living in prison. When we first started she talked all the time how Brazil was better... She got some Americana friends and a few years later, I did not want to be with her anymore. It was too much like dating an American and not a Brazilian.
That experience taught me to go to the source of the country for women. I started traveling, found this board and have not looked back.
ThatGuy865
09-14-10, 19:02
Maybe you could find one in America. They adapt quickly once they see what having a pussy gets there.
I had an ex-novia from Brazil when I was living in prison. When we first started she talked all the time how Brazil was better. She got some Americana friends and a few years later, I did not want to be with her anymore. It was too much like dating an American and not a Brazilian.
That experience taught me to go to the source of the country for women. I started traveling, found this board and have not looked back.So what you are saying then is all women are the same. Given the opportunities, finances, and education most will act like an AW. Its only that in the places you frequent the women do not have the opportunities, nor the finances or resources to ascert their equality in a relationship. Therefore they are ripe for exploitation by men. Hey I'm not knocking you for taking advantage of the situation. I do. But at least lets acknowledge that is what we do. Thats all I say. Its not that those women are any different. Its their circumstances dictate that they must be that way.
TG just keeping it real. As they say.
DJ FourMoney
09-14-10, 22:40
TG, I never said I wasn't that good looking. I just said I wasn't Taye Diggs.
I do okay, I get decent to mildly hot looking women. I am not bothering any women currently with my unemployed self. Why? I can't come through. I can't go see them to make something solid.
I live here as a choice not a have too, I said that before. I am lucky I said fuck my job and had the option. In the "over the barrel" culture we have developed here, I would have to stay at stinky job with reduced hours and stagnant pay and if I wanted to improve, that means going back to school as well. In America we Live to Work, not Work to Live. Everything is open on Sundays and in Urban Areas around the clock, mostly low paying Service Sector jobs.
I'll be fine, I just think its silly for you to suggest that I'm best off with some average looking AW is strange at best. What? Average looking AW try harder? Maybe when they reach 40 they do because they understand that the competition coming from women in their mid 30's and late 20's is impossible to overcome.
Whatever, as I said its ridiculous to suggest America is the best place for anything, when its not.
I chose to upload the link below because I saw Ms. Sainz on live morning TV. She is a 32 yr. old sports journalist for a Mexican tv station. She said she has no problem what occurred. That’s just the way she is because of her appearance. She realizes these incidents can occur because she wears sexy clothing and is hot in her many pictures on her website. She is a latina. The complaints came from an AM and an AW. Need I say more? Draw your own conclusions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/12/ines-sainz-azteca-jets_n_713843.html
I chose to upload the link below because I saw Ms. Sainz on live morning TV. She is a 32 yr. old sports journalist for a Mexican tv station. She said she has no problem what occurred. That’s just the way she is because of her appearance. She realizes these incidents can occur because she wears sexy clothing and is hot in her many pictures on her website. She is a latina. The complaints came from an AM and an AW. Need I say more? Draw your own conclusions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/12/ines-sainz-azteca-jets_n_713843.html
When I queued this up, the next story on line was about Clinton Portus, of the Washington Redskins, and the way he got raked over the coals for saying "You put a woman and you give her a choice of 53 athletes, somebody got to be appealing to her. Somebody got to spark her interest, or she's gonna want somebody."
He's in deep kimchi over this one. Ines Sainz, OTOH, is the "innocent little victim" of the Jets' locker room.
Typical media treatment. The woman has all the rights, the men are saddled with all the responsibilities. I think it's stupid, and WAY out of line, for a woman sportscaster to go into the men's locker room to begin with.
(And a hot darling like Ines Sainz shouldn't be surprised if she incites a riot by showing up there!)
WTF is a female reporter doing in a male locker room? Are male reporters allowed in female professional sports locker rooms? All this political correct BS is driving me nuts.
I chose to upload the link below because I saw Ms. Sainz on live morning TV. She is a 32 yr. old sports journalist for a Mexican tv station. She said she has no problem what occurred. That’s just the way she is because of her appearance. She realizes these incidents can occur because she wears sexy clothing and is hot in her many pictures on her website. She is a latina. The complaints came from an AM and an AW. Need I say more? Draw your own conclusions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/12/ines-sainz-azteca-jets_n_713843.html
Whiskey Lova
09-15-10, 03:03
AW in Sex Prison are trained by their friends, TV, magazines, internet that they have the honey pot and the AM will stop at nothing if he "believes' that he will be rewarded. It does not matter where she was born, nearly all learn this reality really quick. In all the other male playgrounds, if she does not toe the line, SHE won't get rewarded. The reward could be dinner, sex, home, jewelry, you name it.
Here is the catch. In Sex Prison, all women want the rewards without giving any benefits to the men. That is the whole "Party" scene in most clubs: Guys buying girls drinks in the hopes of having some contact with the girl; girls are there to get all the drinks they wish without giving guys anything for their efforts. I know, it is just one scene, a pathetic one, but think of all the other situations where all our efforts get rebuffed because AWs have a scroll long list of reasons they won't get intimate or they won't even try to get acquainted? Frankly, I found the reversal of roles refreshing in my favorite playgrounds.
It may take a long time to get out of here from time to time, but I guarantee that within minutes of arriving at my favorite destinations I have many open minded options available, willing to satisfy my every need. In my jailcell here in Sex Prison, I count the days until I can "Go outside and play". Like a prisoner, I mark an X over the days on the calendar that I am wasting here. At least I have my job to keep me focused on my priorities. Nothing can change the harsh reality and depressing script that the dating scene in the USA has become. Only if you are foolish or ignorant will you limit your options to what is available here.Ever since I came back from my recent virgin trip to Rio I have had this weird feeling and after reading this post that is exactly how I feel, like having a padlock on your dick with no real means of breaking the lock, because lets face it even though I had an blast in Rio and will be coming back soon, living in Rio is not an viable option. Just like you Voyajer1 I am also doing my own countdown until I can get back to sexual paradise but until then I am forced give AW attention and act like I care about how their day went just to get a lazy fuck to tide me over until my next mongering adventure.
I chose to upload the link below because I saw Ms. Sainz on live morning TV. She is a 32 yr. old sports journalist for a Mexican tv station...Sports journalist... that's a joke! Ines Sainz is a model and former Miss Universe contestant. A few years ago, some dude wanted to fuck her, so he gave her a microphone and asked her to talk.
Now the kunt is trying to pull an "Erin Andrews" so that she can jump start her career. Please, somebody shut this bitach up!!!
-Helpmann :rolleyes:
So what you are saying then is all women are the same. Given the opportunities, finances, and education most will act like an AW. Its only that in the places you frequent the women do not have the opportunities, nor the finances or resources to ascert their equality in a relationship. Therefore they are ripe for exploitation by men. Hey I'm not knocking you for taking advantage of the situation. I do. But at least lets acknowledge that is what we do. Thats all I say. Its not that those women are any different. Its their circumstances dictate that they must be that way.
TG just keeping it real. As they say.
I do not think it is the money, but the culture in America ...
I have dated women with money and education in other countries (lawyers). One after working 8 hours would come home, fuck and then make dinner...
I think this ridiculous situation with Ines Sainz is a good example. She is fine with what happened. It is American attitude that created the entire issue.
Bango Cheito
09-15-10, 09:10
I do not think it is the money, but the culture in America ...
I have dated women with money and education in other countries (lawyers). One after working 8 hours would come home, fuck and then make dinner...
I think this ridiculous situation with Ines Sainz is a good example. She is fine with what happened. It is American attitude that created the entire issue.
I find just the opposite here in Colombia, as much as TG wants to be in total denial about it. The rich and middle class girls give it up easier here. The lower class girls are very suspicious about anybody that doesn't come from their own circles. So much for that half-ass theory.
I do not think it is the money, but the culture in America ...
I have dated women with money and education in other countries (lawyers). One after working 8 hours would come home, fuck and then make dinner...
I think this ridiculous situation with Ines Sainz is a good example. She is fine with what happened. It is American attitude that created the entire issue.
Abso-luckin'-flutely it's the USA culture. The USA invented Fem Lib, the National Organization of Women (NOW), "Male Chauvinist Pig" bashing, pillage-and-plunder alimony, sexual-harassment lawsuits, the "glass ceiling" rant, the whole nine yards of it.
That doesn't mean they take any responsibility for any of it. They are the Poor Poor Victims, and "everything wrong" in thir life is all the fault of the Wicked Rascally Male Chauvinist Pigs, i.e. the men. Meanwhile, they expect us to court them, flatter them, pay their way, suck up to them, and lick their a**es for even a glimmer of what passes for affection.
American women, USA women, have turned the eternal "conflict between the sexes" into an all-out f***in' JIHAD. They are the True Believers and they will do anything to subvert, subjugate, plunder, and all-but-EXTERMINATE "The Infidels." That's you and me, gentlemen.
"Miss American Princess, I'm an enchanted comic. Kiss my ass!"
ThatGuy865
09-15-10, 20:38
I find just the opposite here in Colombia, as much as TG wants to be in total denial about it. The rich and middle class girls give it up easier here. The lower class girls are very suspicious about anybody that doesn't come from their own circles. So much for that half-ass theory.Bango. You can look on any forum about Medellin and it will explicitly say. Don't bother with girls from Poblado. And why is that. Because the are the upper middle class to wealthy of Medellin and its hard to get that ass.. Please in your earlier post in this thread you even stated women in Colombia are harder to talk into bed than AW. So which is it?
I never once have said ANYWHERE on this forum that Colombian women are easier than American women. As a matter of fact I've said the exact opposite. The women here are harder to get in bed with, they have higher standards and take a longer time before they give it up physically for a man ON AVERAGE. As a matter of fact, I have dated dozens of women here now since my last separation almost a year and a half ago. And not even among the few semi-pros I date, not ONE of them fucked on the first date.So it would appear they have you jumping thru hoops just like AW. And they are even HARDER as you say. Wow great place indeed. No wonder everyone is trying to move there. NOT! If you love it there so be it. But harder to fuck than AW. You and the other. What. 10 AM that moved there can have it.
I attached a picture of a 170 pound woman.Wow. Did you really fuck her? These promising lips.
I attached a picture of a 170 pound woman.Wow. Did you really fuck her? These promising lips.
Bango Cheito
09-16-10, 03:59
Bango. You can look on any forum about Medellin and it will explicitly say. Don't bother with girls from Poblado. And why is that. Because the are the upper middle class to wealthy of Medellin and its hard to get that ass.. Please in your earlier post in this thread you even stated women in Colombia are harder to talk into bed than AW. So which is it?
So it would appear they have you jumping thru hoops just like AW. And they are even HARDER as you say. Wow great place indeed. No wonder everyone is trying to move there. NOT! If you love it there so be it. But harder to fuck than AW. You and the other. What. 10 AM that moved there can have it.
You have a real bad habit of selective reading. I specifically said that they are harder to get in bed but WAYYYYYYYYY more worth it when you get there. They are better at sex, look better, smell better, dress better, talk dirty better, talk better OUT of the sack, smarter... you name it, they win! I'll live with a harder way to go to get them in the sack. Plus it evolves you, forces you to be on your best game to rise above the competition. I love that.
People who don't live here have NO IDEA what it's REALLY like. They see a little microcosm when they come here.
Also, women are GENERALLY harder to get than in the States, but the higher up the social ladder you go, the sluttier the women are, and the less they care about physical appearance. The body culture especially here in Bogota is really from Estrato 3 on down. I have no idea why, but that's the way it is.
ThatGuy865
09-17-10, 01:31
You have a real bad habit of selective reading. I specifically said that they are harder to get in bed but WAYYYYYYYYY more worth it when you get there. They are better at sex, look better, smell better, dress better, talk dirty better, talk better OUT of the sack, smarter. You name it, they win! I'll live with a harder way to go to get them in the sack. Plus it evolves you, forces you to be on your best game to rise above the competition. I love that.
People who don't live here have NO IDEA what it's REALLY like. They see a little microcosm when they come here.
Also, women are GENERALLY harder to get than in the States, but the higher up the social ladder you go, the sluttier the women are, and the less they care about physical appearance. The body culture especially here in Bogota is really from Estrato 3 on down. I have no idea why, but that's the way it is.If they are harder to get. Fuck it. I don't care what the payoff is.
Looks, smells, performance in bed are a personal call so that statement goes right out the window as they say. Any one who thinks any country or place has a monopoly on beautiful women is only fooling themselves.
As I stated if you are happy there. I'm happy for you. Enjoy life and if I'm every in B Town. I hope we can toss a brew and you can show me these fine women. Well the ez ones though. I'm looking for a challenge. I did that in my 20s and 30s. Now I want ez
TG
Bango Cheito
09-17-10, 08:07
If they are harder to get. Fuck it. I don't care what the payoff is.
Looks, smells, performance in bed are a personal call so that statement goes right out the window as they say. Any one who thinks any country or place has a monopoly on beautiful women is only fooling themselves.
As I stated if you are happy there. I'm happy for you. Enjoy life and if I'm every in B Town. I hope we can toss a brew and you can show me these fine women. Well the ez ones though. I'm looking for a challenge. I did that in my 20s and 30s. Now I want ez
TG
The ez ones are the ones you pay for, in ANY country...
One thing I've also always said on this thread or others is.... boy, anybody looking for a traditional faithful woman, I think they are in the wrong UNIVERSE, but they had definitely better look elsewhere than Colombia. Boyfriend, fiance, husband, means FUCK ALL to women down here. Speaking from personal experience.
More like the sheep being pulled nose first into the slaughter house.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/shortageofsingleladiesdrivesmentocommit
Women are basically getting snapped up, because the guys want to get her before somebody else does," study author Daniel Kruger, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Michigan, told Live Science.
Wedding bells ring sooner for women in places where single ladies are scarce, according to a new study of metropolitan areas in America.
Where single women are rare, women marry earlier, researchers reported Aug. 4 in the journal Evolutionary Psychology. The shift may be because the ladies have more men to choose from, while the men have extra motivation to put a ring on it.
I might be over thinking this, but has anyone else noticed that more and more TV commercials seem to be disparaging to men and reinforcing the feminazi mentality?
Example one, is a yogurt commercial where a woman is on the phone talking about how she's lost weight and mentioning all the great foods she is eating. Of course all the foods are different yogurt flavors. The husband is standing behind her and hearing about all the great food he starts rummaging through the fridge looking for all the great food because he doesn't realize it's all yogurt. Anyway, the wife finally sees him and asks him what he is doing, but in a bossy tone, and the guy acts like he has done something really wrong and like he is in trouble. Jesus, men can't look in a fridge now! This commercial isn't too bad, but it is the one that started me thinking.
Example two, are the AT&T/iPhone commercials where a female narrator talks about all the things you can do with the phone, e.g. made reservations, bought tickets for a family event, turn off something they left on at home, etc, etc. The narrator is speaking as a wife and throughout the commercial she constantly says "we did this, we did that" implying that she and her husband did these things together, yet it is done in a sneering tone that actually implies that it is she who is really doing all the stuff and that her husband couldn't or wouldn't do the stuff. The "wife" really comes off in a very superior tone and, to me at least, implies that she is in some way better than her husband.
Example three is a commercial I saw last night advertising a department stores upcoming sales event. Basically what happens is a guy is walking through his house with two friends and he opens a door, gets a stunned look on his face and says, "What happened to my man cave?" It then flashes to his wife sitting in a chair and the room is decorated in a very feminine manner and the wife says, "Now it's a mom room," in a really condescending manner. The commercial then goes on to talk about all the great things on sale for redecorating. When I saw this commercial, I said WTF, and it is the one that prompted me to write this post.
Commercials like this really bother me, they just reinforce the idea that women can basically do anything they want to their husbands/boyfriends and that men should be subservient to them. Have any of you noticed this trend as well, or am I overanalyzing it all.
This has been going on for years. Look at any sitcom from the past 20 years that portrays a family. The dad is always a helpless dimwit with no judgment who depends on his far smarter and wiser wife and kids for any and all guidance on how to function in life.
This has been going on for years. Look at any sitcom from the past 20 years that portrays a family. The dad is always a helpless dimwit with no judgment who depends on his far smarter and wiser wife and kids for any and all guidance on how to function in life.
You're quite right about that. I just hate seeing it more and more in commercials, the department store one just got me burned up. Can you imagine the reaction if an electronics store, like Best Buy, ran an ad where the husband usurped the "Mom room" and turned it into a Man Cave. It wouldn't surprise me if NOW or some other womens organizations issued a statement about it, something about how it is detrimental to a womans pursuit of equality, blah, blah, blah.
this kind of crap has been going on forever. The usual portrayal of the NA male is a braindead Bud swilling fat slob, who cannot survive 15 minutes without have some female around to basically help him find his clothes on the floor.
Having not had any NAW for years now, and surviving just fine without them, I can personally say they are entirely not necessary...every female I meet is completely screwed up. The problem with these commercials is they reinforce the stereotypical male, and makes AW even more snooty and arrogant (if that is possible!)
The intro to the Craigslist ban on adult services story by the reporter was a perfect example of one-sided feminist journalism at its slickest. She said some words to the effect of 'Craigslist is being pressured to close its adult services ads so these women will be protected blah blah blah,' without going into any specific details of any particular woman. She then pretended to be an escort with an ad and fielded various phone calls from despicable men asking donations and other info. Then she ambushed Craig the founder of Craigslist after he did a speaking engagement with questions designed to embarass him.
I wouldn't doubt if whats next on TV is gonna be a show ala MSNBC's to "Catch a Predator," where men looking to hook up with call girls get busted on TV and maybe have their lifes ruined with camouflaged cops jumping out from behind potted plants, guns drawn, handcuffing the poor pathetic johns on their hands and knees while they still have a woody in their pants.
Meanwhile a Brooklyn man was robbed and killed two years ago after meeting a prostitute on Craigslist and linking up with her in the middle of the night. No mention of that at all.
DJ FourMoney
09-18-10, 10:23
The intro to the Craigslist ban on adult services story by the reporter was a perfect example of one-sided feminist journalism at its slickest. She said some words to the effect of 'Craigslist is being pressured to close its adult services ads so these women will be protected blah blah blah,' without going into any specific details of any particular woman. She then pretended to be an escort with an ad and fielded various phone calls from despicable men asking donations and other info. Then she ambushed Craig the founder of Craigslist after he did a speaking engagement with questions designed to embarass him.
I wouldn't doubt if whats next on TV is gonna be a show ala MSNBC's to "Catch a Predator," where men looking to hook up with call girls get busted on TV and maybe have their lifes ruined with camouflaged cops jumping out from behind potted plants, guns drawn, handcuffing the poor pathetic johns on their hands and knees while they still have a woody in their pants.
Meanwhile a Brooklyn man was robbed and killed two years ago after meeting a prostitute on Craigslist and linking up with her in the middle of the night. No mention of that at all.
Not only that, where's the national outage over Oscar Grant?
Violent deaths of males is viewed in American society as simply coming with the territory of being male, all races included but especially Black. Violence against men generally is either ignored, downplayed, or joked about. Sexual violence against men especially the prison variety is a source of much humor among comedians and late-night hosts. Can anyone imagine the same people making such jokes about female prison inmates? Of course not.
I was talking to an AW, former provider, the other day, she told me she had taken time off to have her baby and also married the baby's father, poor sucker. Prior to retiring, about 3 years ago, she told me she was going to overwhelm her husband with unlimited sex, so he wouldn't have time to stray. She forgot one thing, you've got to look appealing to the other sex. I guess after a few month's, her husband got tired and told her he wanted out of the marriage, it did not help that she had gained 100+Ibs. She now claims her husband had to be gay.
{Putting down men in the media} has been going on for years. Look at any sitcom from the past 20 years that portrays a family. The dad is always a helpless dimwit with no judgment who depends on his far smarter and wiser wife and kids for any and all guidance on how to function in life.
Try "the past 2000 years." This kind of thing is actually as old as the Seven Hils of Rome! Google Plautus; the "Old Comedy" of ancient Rome has the exact same hapless pater familias, his domineering wife, and children and servants who make a perfect ass of him.
ThatGuy865
09-19-10, 03:00
violent deaths of males is viewed in american society as simply coming with the territory of being male, all races included but especially black. violence against men generally is either ignored, downplayed, or joked about. sexual violence against men especially the prison variety is a source of much humor among comedians and late-night hosts. can anyone imagine the same people making such jokes about female prison inmates? of course not.this is a absurd argument.
do you think a woman forcing another woman to eat pussy is any where close to a man being raped by another man.
thats why no one mentions female violence or prison stuff. it would just turn on the men in the audience. women on women [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is no where close to the same as men on men [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
ThatGuy865
09-19-10, 03:06
Try "the past 2000 years. " This kind of thing is actually as old as the Seven Hils of Rome! Google Plautus; the "Old Comedy" of ancient Rome has the exact same hapless pater familias, his domineering wife, and children and servants who make a perfect ass of him.so then if its nothing new. Then its not an AW or NA thing. Last time I read Rome was in europe. And women didn't even have rights.
So its just a comedy thing that most MEN can handle. Except the cry babe whimps who are offended. And thats mainly because they resemble the men being protrayed and are offended.
Just got back from Buenos Aires a few days ago, and it's already occurred to me that the next blow job I get could be years away. After a certain age, women here in the states offer you a brief sample of a blow job, like a movie preview, at most.
But things aren't all so bad. I'm a bachelor stiill at 40, and I've heard of the many devoted husbands and fathers who go to serve their countries in Iraq and Afghanistan only to come home to divorce papers. One fellow's wife told him via web cam that she was banging another dude.
DJ FourMoney
09-19-10, 10:40
Just got back from Buenos Aires a few days ago, and it's already occurred to me that the next blow job I get could be years away. After a certain age, women here in the states offer you a brief sample of a blow job, like a movie preview, at most.
But things aren't all so bad. I'm a bachelor stiill at 40, and I've heard of the many devoted husbands and fathers who go to serve their countries in Iraq and Afghanistan only to come home to divorce papers. One fellow's wife told him via web cam that she was banging another dude.
Like you would want an opportunistic tramp that married a "free ride"; Full benefits, doesn't have to work and gets almost everything at a serve discount.
All that disappears once she ejects from that lifestyle. Usually with children in tow.
Fun, Fun, Fun.
It is depressing until I can actually do something about it....
I only wanna say sorry to the guys in NA who get into trap of AW. I just moved to Central Asia. Have been for a few days with a local GF who looks like a fotomodel, she is almost 30 but looks like 19, cooks, takes care of her apartment, fucks better than brazilera. because of her had to dump some other girl friends for a while since gotta do this girl 4-5-6 times a day/night. And in addition to that now figuring out weather should marry a 22 y.o. nice girl who is still virgin. or look for another one... It is a different world. Very different problems.
so then if its nothing new. Then its not an AW or NA thing. Last time I read Rome was in europe. And women didn't even have rights.
So its just a comedy thing that most MEN can handle. Except the cry babe whimps who are offended. And thats mainly because they resemble the men being protrayed and are offended.
Wrong, again TG! In fact, the women of ancient Rome did have rights, they could inherit, they could own property and they could even initiate a divorce.
Originally Posted by Westy
Try "the past 2000 years. " This kind of thing is actually as old as the Seven Hils of Rome! Google Plautus; the "Old Comedy" of ancient Rome has the exact same hapless pater familias, his domineering wife, and children and servants who make a perfect ass of him."
The comedic value of this play to the ancient Romans was the fact that the Paterfamilias was the ultimate authority in family matters and if his decisions did not violate Roman law then he had the final word. In some cases the Paterfamilias even had the right to execute family members at his discretion. I'm sure the men of Rome found a henpecked Paterfamilias quite funny. The difference between then and now is that the men of today don't have any rights.
Rubber Nursey
09-21-10, 18:15
do you think a woman forcing another woman to eat pussy is any where close to a man being raped by another man.
thats why no one mentions female violence or prison stuff. it would just turn on the men in the audience. women on women [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is no where close to the same as men on men [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
statements like that demonstrate a severe lack of understanding of sexual assault and of female sexuality. forcing a woman to "eat pussy" is no different, and no less degrading, than forcing a man to suck cock. it's the act of being forced that causes the hurt and humiliation. and i assume you were comparing female oral sex with male penetrative sex, but women in prison are also raped with broomsticks, batons, bottles, even knives. (they are also raped by male prison staff).
the reason nobody jokes about women [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) women, is because too many people think like you...that a woman [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) another woman is completely harmless. or maybe even enjoyable. it's rarely even named as '[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)'.
domestic violence perpetrated by women is talked about in the same way. if a woman is hit by her husband, everyone is horrified. if a woman hits her husband, people laugh. why? because women are seen as not having the physical strength to bash someone, so any man who gets beaten up by a woman must be a complete pansy. and female to female violence is treated in the same way as female to female [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) - it's a sexy catfight, rather than a brutal bashing.
this double standard is an insult to women and grossly underestimates the suffering of victims of female violence. it's not 'funny' when men are bashed by their wives, nor is it 'sexy' when female prisoners force themselves on other inmates. women are just as capable of violence as men and it's about time society started acknowledging that.
well said rn!!!
thatguy, since you love aw so much, here's one for you.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/femaleescorts/supreme-diva-98-azz-ssbbw-pornstar-coming-to-your-town-soon-supreme-diva-98azz-38/6894573
statements like that demonstrate a severe lack of understanding of sexual assault and of female sexuality. forcing a woman to "eat pussy" is no different, and no less degrading, than forcing a man to suck cock. it's the act of being forced that causes the hurt and humiliation. and i assume you were comparing female oral sex with male penetrative sex, but women in prison are also raped with broomsticks, batons, bottles, even knives. (they are also raped by male prison staff).
the reason nobody jokes about women [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) women, is because too many people think like you...that a woman [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) another woman is completely harmless. or maybe even enjoyable. it's rarely even named as '[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)'.
domestic violence perpetrated by women is talked about in the same way. if a woman is hit by her husband, everyone is horrified. if a woman hits her husband, people laugh. why? because women are seen as not having the physical strength to bash someone, so any man who gets beaten up by a woman must be a complete pansy. and female to female violence is treated in the same way as female to female [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) - it's a sexy catfight, rather than a brutal bashing.
this double standard is an insult to women and grossly underestimates the suffering of victims of female violence. it's not 'funny' when men are bashed by their wives, nor is it 'sexy' when female prisoners force themselves on other inmates. women are just as capable of violence as men and it's about time society started acknowledging that.
Well said RN!!!
Thatguy, since you LOVE AW so much, here's one for you.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/supreme-diva-98-azz-ssbbw-pornstar-coming-to-your-town-soon-supreme-diva-98azz-38/6894573The link does not work. I believe that ThatGuy does not "love" AW at all.
He has been going to Colombia and Philipines, obviously to fuck good-looking young girls there. If ThatGuy were fucking the same amount of American girls of the same age and beauty as he fucks girls overseas, then what he says would make much more sense. Fucking yourself foreign girls but telling others AW are the same, is false propaganda, misleading scam or something.
BTW many people in other countries still believe AW are the most sexiest and easiest women. Hollywood is doing good job.
ThatGuy865
09-22-10, 01:00
statements like that demonstrate a severe lack of understanding of sexual assault and of female sexuality. forcing a woman to "eat pussy" is no different, and no less degrading, than forcing a man to suck cock. it's the act of being forced that causes the hurt and humiliation. and i assume you were comparing female oral sex with male penetrative sex, but women in prison are also raped with broomsticks, batons, bottles, even knives. (they are also raped by male prison staff).
the reason nobody jokes about women [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) women, is because too many people think like you...that a woman [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) another woman is completely harmless. or maybe even enjoyable. it's rarely even named as '[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)'.
domestic violence perpetrated by women is talked about in the same way. if a woman is hit by her husband, everyone is horrified. if a woman hits her husband, people laugh. why? because women are seen as not having the physical strength to bash someone, so any man who gets beaten up by a woman must be a complete pansy. and female to female violence is treated in the same way as female to female [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) - it's a sexy catfight, rather than a brutal bashing.
this double standard is an insult to women and grossly underestimates the suffering of victims of female violence. it's not 'funny' when men are bashed by their wives, nor is it 'sexy' when female prisoners force themselves on other inmates. women are just as capable of violence as men and it's about time society started acknowledging that.while what you say is true. the big difference is the likely hood and the frequency of which sex would be violently raped. while a women might have to engage in lesibian sex "eating pussy" it might be degrading but the difference is the stigma. a woman can come out and say i was forced to eat pussy while i was in. no one will fault her, judge her and she can continue life with no stigma attached. now let a man come out and say yeah i was forced to suck dick while i was in prison. and see how he is viewed. let alone let him say he was butt fucked. every one will question his manhood.
plus the incidence of violent [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is 100 times more likely in a male prison than a women's. so you toot that society needs to recoqnize to some other willie lump lump. but it won't fly with me.
tg. always keepin it real.
ThatGuy865
09-22-10, 01:38
Well said RN!!!
Thatguy, since you LOVE AW so much, here's one for you.
http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/supreme-diva-98-azz-ssbbw-pornstar-coming-to-your-town-soon-supreme-diva-98azz-38/6894573Yours is gone. And you right how could anyone like women like this.
Of course not you? They couldn't pay you to touch any of these girls. Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6haP10XfdXI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqPUd8WOog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeHoovras8&NR=1
Of course they way too fat for any of you guys.
I can guarantee, all the gals you've shown are NOT worth a hill of beans in the sack.
Here's that pic....
Yours is gone. And you right how could anyone like women like this.
Of course not you? They couldn't pay you to touch any of these girls. Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6haP10XfdXI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqPUd8WOog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeHoovras8&NR=1
Of course they way too fat for any of you guys.
ThatGuy865
09-22-10, 19:18
I can guarantee, all the gals you've shown are NOT worth a hill of beans in the sack.
Here's that pic....Oh an you can that. How. By just looking at a women. Or USA air just make a women libido go to hell. Thats about one silly statement.
Thank you, RN.
Regarding domestic violence: female on male violence, especially among the elderly, is way underreported and underprosecuted. Police and district attorneys don't give a fuck. For women perpetrators, even if they have a size disadvantage they can use weapons or the element of surprise.
When I was in grad school recently I discovered that the faculty and students refused to recognize the prevalence of domestic violence in gay and lesbian relationships. Why deny this dirty secret? Because it subverts the feminist narrative of men as victimizers and women as victims.
Robert1110
09-22-10, 23:46
Wow sounds like you needed a servant and you wonder why AW don't line up for that life style. And then if you divorce. Youll be one who says dam she didn't pay for one thing in the place and I have to split with her. Because working like a servant is want she was meant to do. Right. Its nature. RightYou're jealous
My wife would be glad to answer this for you but she is out cutting the grass
She would laugh at your comment
ThatGuy865
09-23-10, 00:27
Thank you, RN.
Regarding domestic violence: female on male violence, especially among the elderly, is way underreported and underprosecuted. Police and district attorneys don't give a fuck. For women perpetrators, even if they have a size disadvantage they can use weapons or the element of surprise.
When I was in grad school recently I discovered that the faculty and students refused to recognize the prevalence of domestic violence in gay and lesbian relationships. Why deny this dirty secret? Because it subverts the feminist narrative of men as victimizers and women as victims.So you are saying the faculity and students were in with the feminist movement. They have some secret alliance with the students. You should have known didn't you see their secret handshake.
Everyone knows, well anyone with any sense. Knows that the overwhelming numbers of domestic violence is male on female. Now is there women on men violence. Is it abundance. No freaking way. Unless you call nagging, domestic violence. Then youd be right.
As for gay on gay. It probably doesn't get reported as much because a man isn't going to call LE on another man as quickly as a woman would. And woman on woman is probably a small percentage. Too small to be news worthy when it does happen. I'm sure it happens. Also gays really only recently are being more accepted in mainstream society. At least in major metros. Still not in alot of rural communities. So a lot of gay domestic disputes go unreported due to the fact they want to keep their sexuality in the closet. So there are a lot of other issues related to gay couples.
Robert1110
09-23-10, 00:28
Seems we had a "guy" like "thatguy" on the old (and now gone) RWG (Russian Women Guide) board.
He would read all the trip reports written by men who went to Russia or Ukraine and he would always buck up for AW.
TG is the one who thinks my wife is a "servant" because she enjoys and.insists- on doing things most AW will never do for you.
Right now she is out cutting the grass. She is so cool I could mix a drink, pull the recliner out in the yard and tell he when she misses a spot.
On top of that, if I told her I was hungry, she would stop and make me whatever I wanted to eat.
Sometimes I show her these posts made by TG and she just laughs.
My ukrainian wife is smarter than most any of my exAW girlfriends, many of whom went to school.
It is just a different culture.
Even the recreational GF's I had while living in ukraine, as they were putting on their clothes and they noticed my laundry drying from a wash, they would volunteer to iron it for me, or offer to go to the market (on my money) and bring back something to make for me to eat. All this after a few hours of sex.
The best part? My wife would think I was gay if I didn't have interest in other women.
In fact, once she comes in from cutting the grass, I'll ask her is she thinks TG is gay.
Some people just do not understand, usually because they have never visited another country or have been thoroughly brainwashed here in sex prison.
Maybe he watches too many american commercials and sitcoms.
ThatGuy865
09-23-10, 00:33
I can guarantee, all the gals you've shown are NOT worth a hill of beans in the sack.
Here's that pic....Nice pic. First you guys say all AW are fat. I show you stunners. And now miraculously you can look at them and tell they arent good in bed. Wow. With that talent every woman you must have been with must have been great cause you can look at a woman an know her sexual capabilities.
Damn did I see you in the circus, your booth was right next to the guy who can guess everyones weight. Was that you. "step right up ladies & gents and let me tell you guys how your girl performs"
i'm starting to realize that i need to slow down when i make sex to american women. especially when i nail one when i'm drunk and on the first date and the clothes come off, i just want to jack hammer it home doggy style at warp speed.
you know, you barely know them, and their maw is gaped wide open, and we barely know each other's names, it's sort of awkward. sometimes after drinking with a woman, when we're screwing, i'm often thinking, "goddamn, i'm dehydrated."
the awkward part of dating is that often they pony up that pussy on the first date, and then they tell you all you want is sex.
a friend told me the secret to a lasting relationship is to build a friendship before you fuck. might make sense.
ThatGuy it's obvious, just like the guy in the video, AW have you pussy whipped.
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=7443b968a444224214bc
Nice pic. First you guys say all AW are fat. I show you stunners. And now miraculously you can look at them and tell they arent good in bed. Wow. With that talent every woman you must have been with must have been great cause you can look at a woman an know her sexual capabilities.
Damn did I see you in the circus, your booth was right next to the guy who can guess everyones weight. Was that you. "step right up ladies & gents and let me tell you guys how your girl performs"
Bango Cheito
09-23-10, 20:17
Yours is gone. And you right how could anyone like women like this.
Of course not you? They couldn't pay you to touch any of these girls. Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6haP10XfdXI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqPUd8WOog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeHoovras8&NR=1
Of course they way too fat for any of you guys.
Nice bodies but the faces leave a lot to be desired.
I live in Colombia now, I can AFFORD to be that picky.... ;)
ThatGuy865
09-24-10, 03:49
Nice bodies but the faces leave a lot to be desired.
I live in Colombia now, I can AFFORD to be that picky.... ;)Oh yeah. I can see why you are picky. Who would pass up these for an AW
Nothing but beautiful women in Colombia. You got to see them to believe it
You are right bango. I can see why you ae there now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYPYUp1yjtk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7twEGoz2eE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whJLJIrKHyI&feature=related
Yours is gone. And you right how could anyone like women like this.
Of course not you? They couldn't pay you to touch any of these girls. Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6haP10XfdXI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqPUd8WOog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeHoovras8&NR=1
Of course they way too fat for any of you guys.Of course there are some(very low %) good-looking girls in USA. I never said otherwise.
But what matters the % of them among the total number of good-looking girls plus their attitude, behavior, etc. Which is getting to be really bad because the low % of them. They feel they are too important and behave accordingly, even the fat and ugly ones.
Some of the girls on the video are alright, but are they friendly? Will they go on a date with you? Will they suck you like crazy? How about cooking, etc?
One out of every 1,000 AW may look like this, and that is stretching it. Next thing I would ask is how is their personality: Are they conceded? Stuck up? Attitude problems? How are they in bed? Are they full of fire and uninhibited or are they cold and manipulative? If one is lucky enough to meet someone that looks anything like this in the Sex Prison, don't you need to show someone looking like these ladies your 401K, salary stub, bank account and portfolio?
Get out of the jail cell here and you don't need to wonder about any of the things mentioned above and many more that I couldn't think of. Women overseas are just superior to the average mind-numbing, erratic, psychologically programmed by the media, AW's.
I tell you, the decay of the former great American society is being forced by the catalyst force that the good old AW has become. You go girls!!! :rolleyes:
Yours is gone. And you right how could anyone like women like this.
Of course not you? They couldn't pay you to touch any of these girls. Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6haP10XfdXI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vqPUd8WOog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeHoovras8&NR=1
Of course they way too fat for any of you guys.
Rubber Nursey
09-24-10, 18:53
Thank you, RN. Regarding domestic violence: female on male violence, especially among the elderly, is way underreported and underprosecuted. Police and district attorneys don't give a fuck. For women perpetrators, even if they have a size disadvantage they can use weapons or the element of surprise. When I was in grad school recently I discovered that the faculty and students refused to recognize the prevalence of domestic violence in gay and lesbian relationships. Why deny this dirty secret? Because it subverts the feminist narrative of men as victimizers and women as victims.
I think I mentioned this a few years back, but I had a boyfriend who was abused by his ex. He was a VERY big man and she was a tiny little thing. She hit him, bit him, burned him...and he, conscious of his size and strength, was too scared to fight back in case he hurt her. Just like male abusers, she also punished him sexually, tormented him psychologically and manipulated him into staying in the abusive relationship. When he finally found the courage to tell one of his mates, he was laughed at. As a victim of domestic violence myself, I know how hard it is for a woman to be believed and get help. A man has no chance, whatsoever.
And yes, denial of abuse within gay and lesbian relationships is also rife. I agree that it's about reinforcing the idea of women as victims and, like I said in my last post, that really shits me. Not only does it cast all men as violent and abusive, it also paints women as weak little princess who can't hurt a fly and/or defend themselves ...which, in my opinion, is entirely UNfeminist!
Bango Cheito
09-24-10, 23:08
Oh yeah. I can see why you are picky. Who would pass up these for an AW
Nothing but beautiful women in Colombia. You got to see them to believe it
You are right bango. I can see why you ae there now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYPYUp1yjtk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7twEGoz2eE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whJLJIrKHyI&feature=related
You proved my point. You showed low class hookers and a bunch of guisas in Colombia and put them put against beauty contest finalists in the US. :)
There's one girl here who stacks up against any of the girls you posted and I can bang her any time I want for 40.000 pesos.... a little more than $20 USD....
ThatGuy865
09-25-10, 00:29
You proved my point. You showed low class hookers and a bunch of guisas in Colombia and put them put against beauty contest finalists in the US.
There's one girl here who stacks up against any of the girls you posted and I can bang her any time I want for 40. 000 pesos. A little more than $20 USD.I didn't see any I'd let my german shepard do. But I guess that goes to your taste in women.
And I guess the AW you guys have posted were friends of Paris hilton and hung out with carmen electra, who happens to be an AW.
I guess as they say we will just have to agree to disagree. You love it there and are satisfied and that all that should count for you.
I think there are good AW to be found. Actually I think there are good women to be be found in every country. No country has a monopoly on beautiful. Personable, sensuous women.
When I was under 35, I fucked women without a care. Many I don't remember. Thought if you were under 35 and did P4P you were a lame poot butt, and thats the kind of guys that I ran with. In our world, if you couldn't pull a woman. Then you were just lame. My friends to this day. Would laugh/tease me if they knew I partook in P4P even at this age of my life. We turned out hoes. We didn't pay them.
So maybe its just I can't relate to you guys. I always had at least 1 woman if not 2. As the saying goes "Its a poor rat that only has 1 hole to run too"
So if the good ones are too hard for you to get. I guess going where they are easier makes sense.
TG. Keepin it real. As they say.
ThatGuy865
09-25-10, 00:32
I think I mentioned this a few years back, but I had a boyfriend who was abused by his ex. He was a VERY big man and she was a tiny little thing. She hit him, bit him, burned him...and he, conscious of his size and strength, was too scared to fight back in case he hurt her. Just like male abusers, she also punished him sexually, tormented him psychologically and manipulated him into staying in the abusive relationship. When he finally found the courage to tell one of his mates, he was laughed at. As a victim of domestic violence myself, I know how hard it is for a woman to be believed and get help. A man has no chance, whatsoever.
And yes, denial of abuse within gay and lesbian relationships is also rife. I agree that it's about reinforcing the idea of women as victims and, like I said in my last post, that really shits me. Not only does it cast all men as violent and abusive, it also paints women as weak little princess who can't hurt a fly and/or defend themselves ...which, in my opinion, is entirely UNfeminist!Rn.
I know what you are saying and indeed there are cases like that. But lets face it the majority of domestic violence cases are not women beating on men. And thats just a fact.
You proved my point. You showed low class hookers and a bunch of guisas in Colombia and put them put against beauty contest finalists in the US. :)
There's one girl here who stacks up against any of the girls you posted and I can bang her any time I want for 40.000 pesos.... a little more than $20 USD....
A girl from Chile, who I see every once in a while, told me that Colombian girls take the cake when it comes to screwing. I happen to agree with this assessment, they are the best IMHO.
DJ FourMoney
09-25-10, 04:48
Nice bodies but the faces leave a lot to be desired.
I live in Colombia now, I can AFFORD to be that picky.... ;)
To be honest, I found all of them more than acceptable, considering what's generally available to most men in America...
DJ FourMoney
09-25-10, 05:16
You proved my point. You showed low class hookers and a bunch of guisas in Colombia and put them put against beauty contest finalists in the US. :)
There's one girl here who stacks up against any of the girls you posted and I can bang her any time I want for 40.000 pesos.... a little more than $20 USD....
TG is a moron there's no telling or helping him/her understand.
I wonder why he went out of his way to find some so-so looking Colombian Women when the examples of hot girls from Colombia are only TOO easy to find, even on You Tube.
He's/She's a dope.
To be honest, I found all of them more than acceptable, considering what's generally available to most men in America...That's the problem in America. Incredibly low standards for women, that even a nasty pig with no class is considered a woman.
Here, in Central Asia, a photomodel body is a norm to me, it's even out of concern, plenty available, dressing with class, style, decent behavior. I have trouble choosing by looks only. Now looking for more traits such as personality, cooking skills, voice, if she drinks/smokes(most don't), if she is a virgin, how she deals with children, etc. The girl must pass lots of tests, her perfect looks are not enough. I'm not talking about sluts/ho's(they are available too), it's decent girls, very hard to get, but well worth it.
Today have a date with 5'2" 90 lbs 22y. E. Looks much younger, incredibly hot body. And later this week going for a trip to Russian resort area with a taller model look-like girl. Crazy in bed, ready to fuck 24/7. Thanks god they have no idea what value they would have in weird messed up places such as USA. All the girls from those videos are nothing compared to them by looks only. The younger girl thinks she is just a regular girl with lots of bad traits, so she is even kinda suspicious why I'm interested with her. I'm sure she is not the best out here, but compared to USA etc., its a gem.
Bango Cheito
09-25-10, 08:48
A girl from Chile, who I see every once in a while, told me that Colombian girls take the cake when it comes to screwing. I happen to agree with this assessment, they are the best IMHO.
Yeah that's the other thing... believe me I've had plenty of both... and frankly now when i'm travelling I probably would just forego sex until I'm back here... why even bother :P
Goga you make some great points. In my early days, I wasted a lot of time and energy chasing those so called American "Hotties" TG talks about. Too HOT looking to screw, too HOT looking to cook, too HOT looking to clean, too HOT looking to care of the children, etc. A big gigantic waste of time IMHO. Some guys never learn and keep chasing these types of women.
Of course there are some(very low %) good-looking girls in USA. I never said otherwise.
But what matters the % of them among the total number of good-looking girls plus their attitude, behavior, etc.
They feel they are too important and behave accordingly, even the fat and ugly ones.
Some of the girls on the video are alright, but are they friendly? Will they go on a date with you? Will they suck you like crazy? How about cooking, etc?
DJ FourMoney
09-26-10, 01:37
That's the problem in America. Incredibly low standards for women, that even a nasty pig with no class is considered a woman.
Here, in Central Asia, a photomodel body is a norm to me, it's even out of concern, plenty available, dressing with class, style, decent behavior. I have trouble choosing by looks only. Now looking for more traits such as personality, cooking skills, voice, if she drinks/smokes(most don't), if she is a virgin, how she deals with children, etc. The girl must pass lots of tests, her perfect looks are not enough. I'm not talking about sluts/ho's(they are available too), it's decent girls, very hard to get, but well worth it.
Today have a date with 5'2" 90 lbs 22y. E. Looks much younger, incredibly hot body. And later this week going for a trip to Russian resort area with a taller model look-like girl. Crazy in bed, ready to fuck 24/7. Thanks god they have no idea what value they would have in weird messed up places such as USA. All the girls from those videos are nothing compared to them by looks only. The younger girl thinks she is just a regular girl with lots of bad traits, so she is even kinda suspicious why I'm interested with her. I'm sure she is not the best out here, but compared to USA etc., its a gem.
Not surprising there's a documentary on Link TV called Japan - A Story of Love and Hate The subject of this is a Japanese guy (56) who lost everything when the Japanese economy crashed in the early 90's. He's shacked up with a woman half his age (29). She's the one that saved him from being homeless!
Are there ANY Western Women like that? Especially in our broken economy with so many men being laid off from jobs. Many jobs that will never return.
There was a lady on Dylan Ratigan's show that's divorcing her husband after he lost his job in late 2008, hasn't been able to get another one. She had to go back into the job market. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31510813/
Its likely she started the divorce since she was a stay at home mom and he made 6 digits before being laid off. They were force to sell their home and had one of their cars repo'ed.
American Men need to educate themselves on the new reality and break away from these materialistic women who are not willing to do what's best for the family.
This has been a 30-35 year process that has come home to roost and there's no point in hooking up with AW at all. The good women are too few and far between, not to mention many are overweight because obesity is a problem in America.
That's what makes me think TG is a woman because he seemed insulted by Robert's wife mowing the lawn, when its likely he works and she doesn't so she takes care of the house. Who said it was a man's job to mow the lawn???
That's what makes me think TG is a woman because he seemed insulted by Robert's wife mowing the lawn, when its likely he works and she doesn't so she takes care of the house. Who said it was a man's job to mow the lawn???Unless she really wants it(like its a form of fitness), I would not make my woman mow the lawn or similar stuff. I would prefer her to excel in Fucking&Sucking, Cooking, cleaning, keeping in shape, etc.. Now already have one of those, but looking for a younger one.
Bango Cheito
09-26-10, 07:49
I went to Atunes here in Bogota today. I didn't know which way to turn, there were at least 10 women in there that were STUNNING... it took me half an hour just to make up my mind which girl to talk to first.... then I fucked the shit out of her for $25USD. Half the girls in that place (there were about 40 girls working) put any of those gringa beauty contest bitches to SHAME....
And they pale in comparison to the beauty i'm seeing tomorrow who I met in a bar a few weeks ago hanging out drinking beers with my friend... we probably won't have sex (Colombian women VERY rarely do it on the first date) but I know when we do it will be another mind-blowing universe-changing experience.
Nah, I'm definitely stuck here ;)
Have to check out Atunes if I decide to put up with Bogota weather.
Have a buddy, really nice guy, chiropractor, 6-fig income, big house, 3 little kids, stay at home mom, and guess what, the bytch wants a divorce. He never saw it coming. Never met her, but based on what I know, she seems really lazy, he would always tell me how he had to run after this or that after work, I'm thinking, why the hell can't she do it? Two of the kids are in school, so there was only the one left at home.
Of course, she now has it made in the shade. He will be moving out, so she gets the big house, the big support payments, the wheels, all he winds up with is a monthly rent bill, and the mortgage for the big house she stays in.
Why anybody would even want to come within 10 yds of one of these NAW bytches is beyond my imagination
Even thought they are both very close in their uninhibitness, I have to give the edge to Brazilian women. They can both be volcanic when it comes to mattress games, but Brazilian women are just so laid back, they always seem to go for their own pleasure and guarantee yours where Colombians are sometimes unsure and hesitant about the deed. Brazilians are just really into it from my experience and my own opinion. If I must rate it on a scale from 1 to 10, Brazilians get a 10+ where Colombianas I'd give a 9.8. AW's I'll score a 1.5 forthe rare gem that one finds from time to time.
A girl from Chile, who I see every once in a while, told me that Colombian girls take the cake when it comes to screwing. I happen to agree with this assessment, they are the best IMHO.
Strangeman
09-26-10, 22:19
Alright Voyager, Ajax, et al.
Seems like you all agree that colombianas and brazilians are uninhibited and fun in the sack. How do they rate with kinkiness? I have some experience with asian girls (japanese, korean and thai) and they are/can be freaky girls naturally. They also seem to take a certain twisted pride in doing whatever it takes to please their man. Even it they don't particularly fancy something, they will do it and even learn to like it for him.
So, how do the southern girls rate, with 1 being missionary only with the lights out and 10 being whips, chains, blood, animals, groups and whatever other twisted fetish you can imagine? Are they, generally speaking, open to pushing boundaries or do they just like a good ole fashioned jack hammering and a cig?
Curious minds want to know.
Bango Cheito
09-27-10, 03:05
Alright Voyager, Ajax, et al.
Seems like you all agree that colombianas and brazilians are uninhibited and fun in the sack. How do they rate with kinkiness? I have some experience with asian girls (japanese, korean and thai) and they are/can be freaky girls naturally. They also seem to take a certain twisted pride in doing whatever it takes to please their man. Even it they don't particularly fancy something, they will do it and even learn to like it for him.
So, how do the southern girls rate, with 1 being missionary only with the lights out and 10 being whips, chains, blood, animals, groups and whatever other twisted fetish you can imagine? Are they, generally speaking, open to pushing boundaries or do they just like a good ole fashioned jack hammering and a cig?
Curious minds want to know.
I'd give em both about an 8. As a matter of fact, ALL my kinky sex has been with Colombians and Brazilians.
that's the problem in america. incredibly low standards for women, that even a nasty pig with no class is considered a woman.
here, in central asia, a photomodel body is a norm to me, it's even out of concern, plenty available, dressing with class, style, decent behavior. i have trouble choosing by looks only. now looking for more traits such as personality, cooking skills, voice, if she drinks/smokes(most don't), if she is a virgin, how she deals with children, etc. the girl must pass lots of tests, her perfect looks are not enough. i'm not talking about sluts/ho's(they are available too), it's decent girls, very hard to get, but well worth it.
today have a date with 5'2" 90 lbs 22y. e. looks much younger, incredibly hot body. and later this week going for a trip to russian resort area with a taller model look-like girl. crazy in bed, ready to fuck 24/7. thanks god they have no idea what value they would have in weird messed up places such as usa. all the girls from those videos are nothing compared to them by looks only. the younger girl thinks she is just a regular girl with lots of bad traits, so she is even kinda suspicious why i'm interested with her. i'm sure she is not the best out here, but compared to usa etc., its a gem.
it's not too hard to find oneself living vicariously through some of these posts. if anyone yearns for the american women culture keep on reading...
was at the courtesy desk of my local supermarket to get a lottery ticket when i found myself waiting on three young female workers to finish their conversation which was getting quite loud. the gist of it was that 'he's got a crush on me,' 'ew gross' and 'what are you gonna do about that?' while the subject of attention processed my card while running her mouth, i jumped in and asked 'how do you know he has a crush on you?' now this chick is no prize package being very homely looking with a potato-shaped body, so it got me curious with her diva-like attitude. after my question it got dead silent, they all looked at each other and she said more to them than to me 'well he's always staring at me and asking me personal stuff.' they didn't even wait for any feedback from me and kept talking loudly while i left quite mystified.
thankfully i did not win the lottery as sharing any of the pot with that motley crew would churn my stomach.
some pet peeves that i keep running into that are prevalent in my neck of the woods:
1. obese or non-obese, non-attractive white girl slicks hair up, wears tight clothes with butt padding and expects the brothas to come running tongues hanging out.
2. ugly heavy black chicks bragging about cheating on their greek boyfriend with an italian guy forgetting they resemble a burnt match.
3. hot black chick who only goes for the jason statham types.
4. controlling puertoriquenas who figure white guys are easy to control and target them because the alternative is too hard to control.
5. lesbian duos playing dicktease games out in public with frustrated guys.
6. overweight chicks with the attitude of jennifer lopez.
7. female store clerks who ignore you, talk to co-workers, talk on phone, and avoid any interaction for whatever stuck-up reason.
8. beautiful young woman who look like they stepped out of oaxaca, guangdong, kiev, or cali, until they open their mouth and spoil it with word up my n***a, n***a whut! nah son, f*** dat n***a ya heard! ***** this, n***a that, dats how i be gettin my swerve on, feel me. and no i'm not exaggerating here one bit.
9. headcase dominicanas. apparently a worldwide phenomena as the last time i was in buenos aires (too long) i stopped off at cafe orleans and the other one nearby. these cafes are full of chicas from different countries with blondes from brazil at this table, and dark-haired paraguayanas at that table, argentina women over there, etc. i asked my argentinian friend what about those hot chicas way over there, and he says 'no good, no bueno dominicana, barracudas! barracudas! no bueno,' i thought he was gonna have a heart attack!
DJ FourMoney
09-27-10, 20:59
it's not too hard to find oneself living vicariously through some of these posts. if anyone yearns for the american women culture keep on reading...
was at the courtesy desk of my local supermarket to get a lottery ticket when i found myself waiting on three young female workers to finish their conversation which was getting quite loud. the gist of it was that 'he's got a crush on me,' 'ew gross' and 'what are you gonna do about that?' while the subject of attention processed my card while running her mouth, i jumped in and asked 'how do you know he has a crush on you?' now this chick is no prize package being very homely looking with a potato-shaped body, so it got me curious with her diva-like attitude. after my question it got dead silent, they all looked at each other and she said more to them than to me 'well he's always staring at me and asking me personal stuff.' they didn't even wait for any feedback from me and kept talking loudly while i left quite mystified.
thankfully i did not win the lottery as sharing any of the pot with that motley crew would churn my stomach.
some pet peeves that i keep running into that are prevalent in my neck of the woods:
1. obese or non-obese, non-attractive white girl slicks hair up, wears tight clothes with butt padding and expects the brothas to come running tongues hanging out.
2. ugly heavy black chicks bragging about cheating on their greek boyfriend with an italian guy forgetting they resemble a burnt match.
3. hot black chick who only goes for the jason statham types.
4. controlling puertoriquenas who figure white guys are easy to control and target them because the alternative is too hard to control.
5. lesbian duos playing dicktease games out in public with frustrated guys.
6. overweight chicks with the attitude of jennifer lopez.
7. female store clerks who ignore you, talk to co-workers, talk on phone, and avoid any interaction for whatever stuck-up reason.
8. beautiful young woman who look like they stepped out of oaxaca, guangdong, kiev, or cali, until they open their mouth and spoil it with word up my n***a, n***a whut! nah son, f*** dat n***a ya heard! ***** this, n***a that, dats how i be gettin my swerve on, feel me. and no i'm not exaggerating here one bit.
9. headcase dominicanas. apparently a worldwide phenomena as the last time i was in buenos aires (too long) i stopped off at cafe orleans and the other one nearby. these cafes are full of chicas from different countries with blondes from brazil at this table, and dark-haired paraguayanas at that table, argentina women over there, etc. i asked my argentinian friend what about those hot chicas way over there, and he says 'no good, no bueno dominicana, barracudas! barracudas! no bueno,' i thought he was gonna have a heart attack!
mike12 you're not the only one that's complaining about single life in nyc.
i do find eastern european woman talking all "ghetto" very interesting. i wonder if they know that intelligent, educated black men don't talk like that, at least not in the presence of people we don't know. even then i don't use that much slang (ebonics) in private.
my boy's girlfriend who's russian doesn't speak that way. neither does this ukrainian brunette i'm trying to "holla" at.
The whole lesbian duo I really don't mind. I remember riding the 6 train out of Hunts Point watching two Puerto Rican girls suck face. Friends told me the two were a common sight.
Tough thing about New York, and a lot of places, is every time you refuse to meet some modest girl's outrageous demands, some sucker will give her all that and more.
Is it possible that regionally American Women are different. e.g. californian women are different from texans?
DJ FourMoney
09-28-10, 08:11
The whole lesbian duo I really don't mind. I remember riding the 6 train out of Hunts Point watching two Puerto Rican girls suck face. Friends told me the two were a common sight.
Tough thing about New York, and a lot of places, is every time you refuse to meet some modest girl's outrageous demands, some sucker will give her all that and more.
Why so some men get turned on by two women kissing?????
DJ FourMoney
09-28-10, 08:19
Is it possible that regionally American Women are different. e.g. californian women are different from texans?
Some would say both yes and no.
Our culture/society bakes alot of what you don't want into the cake already. Like assuming you'll find a intelligent but liberated women in college towns. That I would say its a BIG NO! Far more of the women are going to be intelligent but bitchy and demanding.
In America's ten largest cities I would say that behavior among the women in these cities is roughly the same, because the complaints are the same...
I have no fantasies of going into the rural midwest or mid-sized cities like Minn/St Paul as some people suggest to find somebody, its just a waste of time IMHO. Depending what you want, you'll find something MUCH faster overseas.
If the obesity problem was under control in America I might be worth finding a woman inside the States but frankly, because of the weight issues so many women have, its not worth it because of entitlement problems.
If your under 50 and seek something long term, just forget it, don't waste your time. Save all the money you would otherwise spend on local or women in the US and save it for traveling overseas.
DJ, I don't know that I get turned on necessarily by two women kissing. But it is kind of fascinating.
The funny part was that most men were on the edge of their seats. Women were horrified. I've dated a few bisexual women. I think they're probably even more focused on themselves sexually than heterosexual women are.
some pet peeves that i keep running into that are prevalent in my neck of the woods:
1. obese or non-obese, non-attractive white girl slicks hair up, wears tight clothes with butt padding and expects the brothas to come running tongues hanging out.
2. ugly heavy black chicks bragging about cheating on their greek boyfriend with an italian guy forgetting they resemble a burnt match.
3. hot black chick who only goes for the jason statham types.
4. controlling puertoriquenas who figure white guys are easy to control and target them because the alternative is too hard to control.
5. lesbian duos playing dicktease games out in public with frustrated guys.
6. overweight chicks with the attitude of jennifer lopez.
7. female store clerks who ignore you, talk to co-workers, talk on phone, and avoid any interaction for whatever stuck-up reason.
8. beautiful young woman who look like they stepped out of oaxaca, guangdong, kiev, or cali, until they open their mouth and spoil it with word up my n***a, n***a whut! nah son, f*** that n***a ya heard! ***** this, n***a that, dats how i be gettin my swerve on, feel me. and no i'm not exaggerating here one bit.
9. headcase dominicanas.i think this is a good summary of what prevails in most of the usa.
so i can't get why would some people (thatguy) here advocate for such women.
in usa i have also noticed another phenomena, the attitude of worse-looking girls often can be even worse of the better-looking girls' attitude.
for some reason i have found taking to prettier girls is easier than to ugly ones.
my guess is that in addition to already nasty attitude(which is a norm), the ugly girl realizes that she is actually uglier than others, so she is getting pissed off even more.
DJ FourMoney
09-30-10, 04:56
DJ, I don't know that I get turned on necessarily by two women kissing. But it is kind of fascinating.
The funny part was that most men were on the edge of their seats. Women were horrified. I've dated a few bisexual women. I think they're probably even more focused on themselves sexually than heterosexual women are.
No harm, I was just wondering. I kinda though it was cool when I was younger, but now I can just do without it.
I've never dated any Bi-Women, I only knew one that expressed interest in being with a woman and I didn't have a problem with it.
Mike12 you're not the only one that's complaining about single life in NYC.
I do find Eastern European Woman talking all "ghetto" very interesting. I wonder if they know that intelligent, educated Black Men don't talk like that, at least not in the presence of people we don't know. Even then I don't use that much slang (ebonics) in private.
My boy's girlfriend who's Russian doesn't speak that way. Neither does this Ukrainian brunette I'm trying to "Holla" at.
The point I'm trying to make is that talking like that (ghetto, hip-hop) is now the norm. The way we might say what's up man, dude, or fellas is now replaced by the younger generations adaptation of the N word in every sentence, ghetto talk and dumbing down. Immigrant kids pick it up without realizing how disgraceful it sounds and looks. When you hear the same vernacular on 145 street and the Upper East Side, Jamaica Ave and malls in Westchester County thats saying something.
I walk down a Manhattan street every day right after high school lets out and see and hear all kinds of things going on with the charming student body. Various fights and robberies, girls instigating fights, roving kids in the street jumping out at cars, screaming high-school kids, and all this with cops on every street to shepard them along to the subway. Lovely experience for sure. With that being said, I still don't think it was as bad as the eighties. At least now these kids got lap-tops, Ipods, smartphones, and a reasonable awareness of the world around them through the internet and the media.
As far as the lesbian duos, I meant they are drawing attention to themselves, intentionally dick-teasing guys now for fun. Like a game.
Gentleman Travel
09-30-10, 14:42
... is a good offence.
Probably also it is a defence mechanism - if she is not open to approaches, then she cannot be rejected.
In USA I have also noticed another phenomena, the attitude of worse-looking girls often can be even worse of the better-looking girls' attitude.
For some reason I have found taking to prettier girls is easier than to ugly ones.
My guess is that in addition to already nasty attitude(which is a norm), the ugly girl realizes that she is actually uglier than others, so she is getting pissed off even more.
Rubber Nursey
10-01-10, 03:58
As far as the lesbian duos, I meant they are drawing attention to themselves, intentionally dick-teasing guys now for fun. Like a game.
Do you mean actual lesbian duos, or girls who are obviously straight pretending to get it on with other girls? 'Coz if you're talking about actual lesbians (or bi-girls in same sex relationships)...I doubt they give much thought to the men around them when they're pashing the woman they love! Lesbians kiss other women because they're lesbians, not because they're cockteases...
DJ FourMoney
10-01-10, 05:39
Do you mean actual lesbian duos, or girls who are obviously straight pretending to get it on with other girls? 'Coz if you're talking about actual lesbians (or bi-girls in same sex relationships)...I doubt they give much thought to the men around them when they're pashing the woman they love! Lesbians kiss other women because they're lesbians, not because they're cockteases...
I think he means bi-curious/bi-sexual women. Why would real lesbians go to a heterosexual nightclub? News flash they don't, these are women that are bi-curious at best and I fully understand what he's talking about. I've seen women that want to attract attention, its a shame really.
Rubber Nursey
10-01-10, 05:57
I think he means bi-curious/bi-sexual women. Why would real lesbians go to a heterosexual nightclub? News flash they don't, these are women that are bi-curious at best and I fully understand what he's talking about. I've seen women that want to attract attention, its a shame really.
Ok... but as a bisexual woman myself, if I'm getting it on with a woman in a hetero nightclub, I sure as shit ain't doing it for men's pleasure! I'm doing it for mine! I just found it kind of weird to complain about girls getting passionate in front of men, as though they would ONLY do it to tease. Mostly, they're so carried away in the moment that they don't even realise there's a man in the room. I *have* seen women do that bizarre "I'm pretending to be a lesbian so you guys get a hard-on" crap, but you can generally spot them a mile away (they don't usually kiss or get really intimate. They just rub boobs and dance sexy, etc).
However...I should add that a lot of women who pull that trick are actually trying to promote themselves as 'sexually enlightened' and, perhaps, suggest that they're up for a 2-girl/1-guy threesome. How is that a bad thing? Surely that's a win-win situation for many men! :)
DJ FourMoney
10-01-10, 07:12
Ok... but as a bisexual woman myself, if I'm getting it on with a woman in a hetero nightclub, I sure as shit ain't doing it for men's pleasure! I'm doing it for mine! I just found it kind of weird to complain about girls getting passionate in front of men, as though they would ONLY do it to tease. Mostly, they're so carried away in the moment that they don't even realise there's a man in the room. I *have* seen women do that bizarre "I'm pretending to be a lesbian so you guys get a hard-on" crap, but you can generally spot them a mile away (they don't usually kiss or get really intimate. They just rub boobs and dance sexy, etc).
However...I should add that a lot of women who pull that trick are actually trying to promote themselves as 'sexually enlightened' and, perhaps, suggest that they're up for a 2-girl/1-guy threesome. How is that a bad thing? Surely that's a win-win situation for many men! :)
You must live on a different planet Nursery :) I've seen women lock lips (and tongue) before on the dancefloor and all the guys stare, I just roll my eyes. I'm usually in the DJ booth I don't even see it and if I do I ignore it.
That's the only time I find myself in nightclubs these days. Its not for 40somethings, its not even for 30somethings even though they still go. I don't drink so I don't like the bar scene, I'm just kinda stuck. I rely heavily on the internet now.
I have never met any women (besides the one I mentioned) that was openly interested in bi-sexual activities, so the likelihood of that happening is SLIM and NONE.
For me its a loose, loose, - Example
I was making my rounds on the sites I'm on (dating sites) and out of nowhere I get a poke/wink that somebody wants to chat with me, okay... Its some 40ish Flight Attendant, who looks very bit 40. After about 15 mins she asked what my "Special Situation" and I said I live at home with my parents as I wanted to save money. Then she goes on this mini-rant about being an Independent Women and that she couldn't handle me being at home. Before that she said "I wanted alot to be a guy that lives at home". I've become very BLUNT in my description of what I want (no kids or if you do one small child, under 3 and under 35) I don't see how that's "demanding"....lol How could some woman on the wrong side of 40 say some shit like that like she was doing ME a favor by contacting me first to see what kinda "looser" I was?
This is what American Men have to put up with. I didn't ask for her opinion on my living situation, nor did I was I really interested in talking to her. If I was I would have contacted her first.
That's some serious bullshit!
Ok... but as a bisexual woman myself, if I'm getting it on with a woman in a hetero nightclub, I sure as shit ain't doing it for men's pleasure! I'm doing it for mine! I just found it kind of weird to complain about girls getting passionate in front of men, as though they would ONLY do it to tease. Mostly, they're so carried away in the moment that they don't even realise there's a man in the room. I *have* seen women do that bizarre "I'm pretending to be a lesbian so you guys get a hard-on" crap, but you can generally spot them a mile away (they don't usually kiss or get really intimate. They just rub boobs and dance sexy, etc).
However...I should add that a lot of women who pull that trick are actually trying to promote themselves as 'sexually enlightened' and, perhaps, suggest that they're up for a 2-girl/1-guy threesome. How is that a bad thing? Surely that's a win-win situation for many men! :)
Maybe this is my long-term frustration speaking, but there is another message I perceive when I see two women "getting passionate in front of men" - one of scorn for their audience: "We're hot and sexy, and you can't have any. We'd rather play with each other and leave you losers on the bench."
I have had two "happy hour" experiences in my life - one professional (at Blackbeard's in the DomRep) and one "semi-pro" (in Asuncion, Paraguay, with a woman I'd been with before and her friend that she was partying with before we hooked up that night). Neither one involved any girl-on-girl action, though I would have enjoyed the show if it had come about that way.
Two women getting sexy with each other? I don't even pretend to hope there would be any room for me in the mix, any more than I would hope that a woman I find attractive is going to want anything to do with the likes of me. Unless it's P4$ with the gringo mark-up.
DJ FourMoney
10-01-10, 18:20
Maybe this is my long-term frustration speaking, but there is another message I perceive when I see two women "getting passionate in front of men" - one of scorn for their audience: "We're hot and sexy, and you can't have any. We'd rather play with each other and leave you losers on the bench."
I have had two "happy hour" experiences in my life - one professional (at Blackbeard's in the DomRep) and one "semi-pro" (in Asuncion, Paraguay, with a woman I'd been with before and her friend that she was partying with before we hooked up that night). Neither one involved any girl-on-girl action, though I would have enjoyed the show if it had come about that way.
Two women getting sexy with each other? I don't even pretend to hope there would be any room for me in the mix, any more than I would hope that a woman I find attractive is going to want anything to do with the likes of me. Unless it's P4$ with the gringo mark-up.
Westy that is not long term frustration, that's the new normal.
Rubber Nursey
10-01-10, 19:24
...there is another message I perceive when I see two women "getting passionate in front of men" - one of scorn for their audience: "We're hot and sexy, and you can't have any. We'd rather play with each other and leave you losers on the bench."
I'm not sure if I'm talking about the same thing as you and DJ. Are you guys honestly suggesting that gay and bisexual women only kiss other women in public to upset the men around them? Seriously? I think you guys have been watching too much porn! ;)
I'm not sure if I'm talking about the same thing as you and DJ. Are you guys honestly suggesting that gay and bisexual women only kiss other women in public to upset the men around them? Seriously? I think you guys have been watching too much porn! ;)
I live in NYC a mecca for this crap. They do it to make straight people feel uncomfortable and to rub their sexuality in your face. It's their way of getting back at the "folks".
I have respect for old school gays 70's/80's. They had way more balls then the guys nowdays. The younger gay guys act worse than high school "mean girls".
The straight man is the real underdog these days.
Another big deal in NYC are bull dykes that look like men and date lipstick lesbos. If you somewhat glance at their lipstick GF they want to pounce on you. Most are PR's or Black. Maybe it has to do with macho culture. I don't know.
These are people looking for trouble who feel the need to exacerbate the situation. It is nothing more than an act of desperation.
Again these are all signs of desperation and the need to prove something. If you are happy and you know it clap your hands...that's what I say.
DJ FourMoney
10-01-10, 23:55
I'm not sure if I'm talking about the same thing as you and DJ. Are you guys honestly suggesting that gay and bisexual women only kiss other women in public to upset the men around them? Seriously? I think you guys have been watching too much porn! ;)
These are bi-curious women, not actual bi-sexual women or gays even.
I don't know the reasons WHY they do it, they just do it. I have seen it, its not what I would call a regular thing, but also straight women bring known bi-sexual women into heterosexual nightclubs. Mix in a little alky and you never know what happens.
ThatGuy865
10-01-10, 23:56
Rn,
Its no use in trying to convince these guys of nothing. You are dealing with the socially and relationship inept with this group.
For any rational thinking person to think that Only straight people kiss in public because of passion and gays Only do it to attract attention or to some how embarrass straight people shows how ignorant these guys are about people and relationships. In general
I believe most of these guys here are those guys who werent able to get women EVER. Oh they might of had that one or two girls who like them so much that the woman pratically made the move on them and of course these knuckleheads thought they were the ones who made the move. And then once the woman realized the socially inept guys they had. They dumped them. So any and everyone who is in love or displays affection of any kind has to be doing it with some other motive.
That is why most of these guys are locked solely into the p4p game or can only deal with women are so economically strapped that they accept any foreigner and since there is the obvious language barrier. No intellectual discussions will take place.
ThatGuy865
10-02-10, 00:21
I live in NYC a mecca for this crap. They do it to make straight people feel uncomfortable and to rub their sexuality in your face. It's their way of getting back at the "folks".NYC the mecca. What happened to San fran. I could have sworn. It was the MECCA of everything gay. And L. A. With west hollywood. Oh don't get me wrong there are alot in NYC. So don't you think maybe they just feel comfortable enough that they don't have to hide it like those so called. How did you put it "Old school gays". Maybe its YOU who has the issue. You are so hung up that you are put off because they have a relationship. That you don't have. Do straight couples kiss to embarrass people or gays don't have the same emotions. And how would you know.
I'm not sure if I'm talking about the same thing as you and DJ. Are you guys honestly suggesting that gay and bisexual women only kiss other women in public to upset the men around them? Seriously? I think you guys have been watching too much porn! ;)
RN, please forgive me if my post gave you the notion that I believe that gay and bisexual women only kiss other women in public to upset the men around them. Rationally, I know that a kissy-snuggly couple - hetero, gay, or bi - aren't engaging in such behavior for the sake of any spectators; they aren't likely to give a rat's patoot about who might be watching or what their audience might feel. It's my own emotional reaction that leaves me feeling "they're showing their contempt."
But - given the ever-increasing contempt aimed at men by Western women - can you definitively rule out that some of these gay couples may be putting on a show like that, not just for their own pleasure, but also to (as Artisttyp said) "make straights uncomfortable and rub their sexuality in your face"?
I was and I am reporting on my own state of mind and emotions when I said that I don't even pretend to hope there would be any room for me in the mix, and that I feel like the show underlines the fact.
I already recognize that American women would appreciate nothing more from me than seeing me crawl back under my rock and disappear. I have grown used to that rock, even comfortable under it, but I do crawl out from time to time for some sunlight and fresh air....
Well, the girls I saw kissing each other so delicately on the train, and looking into each other's 17-year-old eyes, I'm sure they did it largely for attention. After all, it was rush hour, and people had no choice but to see.
Now, these two girls were very attractive. And since it's more socially acceptable or appealing for two women to smooch on the train than two guys, girls can feel more comfortable fucking around doing it.
That's not saying these girls were threatening anyone's sexuality. I'd say they were doing it for the same reason teenagers create their own whacky fashion, or curse loudly or say "Oh, my God!" or present themselves on prom night as the funniest, most clever human beings at IHOP, or grow their hair long as I did as a teenager and then complained of presumed persecution.
Kids love attention.
I don't mind them or grown women being gay, unless they trick me out of dinner and drinks before disclosure.
Of course, if I saw two dudes with mustaches tickling each others' tonsils, I'd be fucking grossed out.
Rubber Nursey
10-02-10, 05:36
Westy and DJ: Oh, well that makes much more sense! I originally thought that's what you guys meant, but then I started to wonder...
I agree with what Artisttyp said and I've definitely seen that sort of behaviour before, but I think that's quite different to intentionally making men feel like losers, or that they're "missing out" on some prime lesbian booty.
I'm really sad that you feel that was about women, Westy - and, worse, that they've made you feel that way about yourself. FWIW, I think you sound lovely. :)
Do you mean actual lesbian duos, or girls who are obviously straight pretending to get it on with other girls? 'Coz if you're talking about actual lesbians (or bi-girls in same sex relationships)...I doubt they give much thought to the men around them when they're pashing the woman they love! Lesbians kiss other women because they're lesbians, not because they're cockteases...
I mean intentionally playing games with men out of scorn, disrespect, and A "hey look what I have and you can never get attitude". Some recent examples are when I was sitting at a light and two blondes pull up across from me and get my attention, then start kissing like they have some sort of enraptured audience. As soon as they turned I knew what they were gonna do and picked up my phone to look at that instead. I dont play those games. Whats next - should I jump through a hoop and bark?
Recently I was in a bodega getting a drink when some girl starts yelling help from the back. I looked at the drinks and checked out the commotion and it was a La Raza type with a hoodie, baggy jeans, and bandana over dreads pushing up on this really nice looking young high-school girl to the point of forced touching. When me and the store employee got close they started laughing and ran off and the gangster dude was really a female.
I really think alot of these girls have their heads messed up because of whats on TV now. They probably are not even gay, just acting out because MTV portrays it as cool. MTV has a new channel now that exclusively targets the young generation these days.
DJ FourMoney
10-02-10, 08:31
I wouldn't even bother but -
TG that is not even constructive criticism. You don't know anything about the guys that post here other than making assumptions. I have gone after the women I have wanted, never played a "numbers" game. I am very selective.
More often than not I was rejected. I would say some of it was the color of my skin, other times it was how I looked and I don't mean how I dressed or carried myself. I mean facial I just didn't do it for them. I don't have over-sized, flat nose, nor big lips. I look fairly good IMHO but I wouldn't call myself universally attractive.
But as I have said before, every dog has its day and every so often I get 6-7's and occasionally 8's. I was hit up by a 40 year old Flight Attendant online just last night. She looked her age, but it wasn't bad, nor was it fantastic, she's about a 7.
She contacted me, not the other way around.
I have yet to talk to a woman I couldn't communicate with, so what your saying makes no sense. Even the FSU women I have talked too can speak some English.
The premise you make it ridiculous, talking about how some of us are socially inept. Especially when I've been a DJ since I was 16 (1986) and have managed to pull a few dates and get ass from it. That was not my concentration, not one bit. I was always focused on moving the crowd. Having not set foot inside a University, I've dated College Educated Women and there is no lack of conversation or subject matter. I would say even these women aren't terribly well verse in much else than what they went to school for.
I keep responding to you but you are not listening and you don't have any useful suggestions that make any sense. You basically say "your a poor slob, looser, you're limited to those less than, because you're less than so stop complaining and make lemonade."
I want to live in whatever reality you live in because whatever it is your smoking it some really good shit.
ThatGuy865
10-02-10, 21:16
I wouldn't even bother but -
TG that is not even constructive criticism. You don't know anything about the guys that post here other than making assumptions. I have gone after the women I have wanted, never played a "numbers" game. I am very selective.
More often than not I was rejected. I would say some of it was the color of my skin, other times it was how I looked and I don't mean how I dressed or carried myself. I mean facial I just didn't do it for them. I don't have over-sized, flat nose, nor big lips. I look fairly good IMHO but I wouldn't call myself universally attractive.
But as I have said before, every dog has its day and every so often I get 6-7's and occasionally 8's. I was hit up by a 40 year old Flight Attendant online just last night. She looked her age, but it wasn't bad, nor was it fantastic, she's about a 7.
She contacted me, not the other way around.
I have yet to talk to a woman I couldn't communicate with, so what your saying makes no sense. Even the FSU women I have talked too can speak some English.
The premise you make it ridiculous, talking about how some of us are socially inept. Especially when I've been a DJ since I was 16 (1986) and have managed to pull a few dates and get ass from it. That was not my concentration, not one bit. I was always focused on moving the crowd. Having not set foot inside a University, I've dated College Educated Women and there is no lack of conversation or subject matter. I would say even these women aren't terribly well verse in much else than what they went to school for.
I keep responding to you but you are not listening and you don't have any useful suggestions that make any sense. You basically say "your a poor slob, looser, you're limited to those less than, because you're less than so stop complaining and make lemonade."
I want to live in whatever reality you live in because whatever it is your smoking it some really good shit.Dj
I Never called you a loser. Amd even being socially inept doesn't make one a loser as the recent movie shows that. The creator of face book was is a self professed socially inept person. Everyone is not going to be capable of all things. You speak of these women who contact you. But thats thru internet which is a major means of communication for the socially arkward people just as the face book guy created for himself. It allows you to post without really having to approach a person. And not having to face rejection in a public setting. Like in a bar, club, where people can see you getting turned down or not. I'm sure as a DJ you got women to talk to you. Maybe even scored with a few. Under those circumstances, had you been on your game. You should of had women on demand. Not occasionally. But anytime you wanted. I was a club rat and the DJs always had babes drooling to be with them. One of my good friends was a DJ back in the Day. That was his modis operadi. He was the Dj and got numbers all night long. He used to always say" yeah I saved her life last night" because of that one song. Last night a DJ saved my life.
I say just because you strike out. Don't quit the game. Babe ruth held the record for striking out. A couple of seasons. But it didn't stop him from still swinging for the Home run. Because in the end. Its the home runs that count not the strike outs. A lot of guys who complain focus too much on the strike outs. Well we all have ran into women with bad attitudes, rejection, whatever. But if you "keep on truckin" to quote the late Eddie Kendricks. You going to hit that home run and find that woman who is "all that and a bag of chips" and not just once but you got to keep swinging or you can't hit the home run. It like you guys quit the Majors and went to the little league where you have the advantage. So yeah. You can hit a home run easier. But it aint the same game. You're not playing on a level playing field. But to each his own.
I just say DJ. You can score. I know guys in your situation and they still get women. Its all about attitude. Keep swinging DJ.
TG
One thing that can concern me about women is if they treat their pets better than fellow human beings.
I mean, I know people say dogs and cats love you unconditionally, but that's horse shit. As soon as you suffer cardiac arrest in your recliner, that cat is gonna feast on your face.
And once as I was getting ready to light a Newport in a girl's apartment, she said, "I'm sorry, I don't smoke in the apartment." Inside, I was like, yeah, but the place already smells like cat shit.
A few weeks back, I was at a singles event. Cheap hotel room to avoid a potential DUI, why not. I usually only drink within walking distance of home.
I'm pretty high strung, so I have a hard time just mingling. So in a big setting like that, with lots of noise, I go for the whiskey. Had a couple of rock glasses of Jameson.
The bar doors were open, and after paying 18 bucks on booze, I went to my room and got a few cans of Heineken. Chunky black girl Mormon head case was moving out of range, and for a second I talked to a very weathered New Yawker from Long Island.
Fat, yep, heavy crow lines, but I was nice to her all the same, and then I moved along. Passed by again and saw some younger dude, better looking than me, was checking her out as a possibility. I offered him a Heineken, too, what the hell.
Then the Long Island broad came over and backed her ass up into my crotch. "What do you want to do?" she asked. How about we head to my room? And it was a done deal.
But it was less than mediocre. She was fat and bush hairy. My cock kept slipping out of her. I couldn't get puss traction. "I don't usually do this," she said.
Tried to flip her doggy style, and she looked alarmed. Soon I was drunk AND tired, so I just plopped on my back and said, "Hey, just jerk me off, all right? " She didn't know how to do it, she said.
Then she was like "You want me to leave, don't you?" I said, "Naw, no worries. You can stay if you like."
"What's my name?" she asked.
"You can stay if you like."
She didn't. I awoke to a dark room with sunlight creeping through the edges of the curtains. My wallet was just where I hid it.
I felt kind of dirty after this experience. Mainly, I thought how the only thing I really wanted that night was to come.
And I realized it had been a long time since I had a relationship in which I truly cared about pleasing the woman.
And then I thought before I go to a big public party like this again, I better go to an AMP at least within a week to make sure I'm not the guy who bangs the ugly fat girl.
And this one, cringe, tried jumping on my cock without a condom. Had to stop her. "Wait a second, girl, we gotta wrap that rascal!"
Oh Ya Papi
10-03-10, 05:46
i travel all the time 35 countries. not just 4 p4p but culture i can speak spanish, i cannot find a chick to approach even to try in this sorry large urban city. and fat, stuck up, curt, snob, scenesters. i and ihave had mass aw gfriends it just changes when you get older 40. please repond to this mid life crisis of middile age straight man has no options for good pussy. and we americans are sooooo prude and age conscous, whats up with that every other country is cool 45 with a 25 gfriend no questions.
i agree from past posts too much work for little gain, my friend is killin match.com, i did well 4 years ago, but his chicks are fat and he does them? i will fuck my left hand for ever instead of a fat chick. i go to tj soon, then c.r. then s.e.asia. focus on myself get a hot 19-26 year old elsewhere, and yes i date regulars abroad tambien, a mi me gusta los dos lados de la moneda. regulares y prepagos jaajajaja
One thing that can concern me about women is if they treat their pets better than fellow human beings....
Too, too true. One of my colleagues had a list of the reasons why her dog came first (before boyfriends) in her life, culminating with "To you she's just a dog. To me, she's my furry daughter who doesn't talk back."
The "unconditional love" thing is the prize, of course. We guys get the blame because we do place conditions (like "no fat chicks"), we do talk back, and we want them to get naked and do the wild thing with us.
It's all a "terrible, horrible, unforgivable imposition," compared to the cat - just open a can of 9 Lives for Fluffy once a day and change out the kitty-litter when it gets too ripe for you, and he's content. Best of all, from the AW's perspective, is that when Fluffy snuggles up he doesn't start trying to undress her....
ThatGuy865
10-03-10, 14:59
i travel all the time 35 countries. not just 4 p4p but culture i can speak spanish, i cannot find a chick to approach even to try in this sorry large urban city. and fat, stuck up, curt, snob, scenesters. i and ihave had mass aw gfriends it just changes when you get older 40. please repond to this mid life crisis of middile age straight man has no options for good pussy. and we americans are sooooo prude and age conscous, whats up with that every other country is cool 45 with a 25 gfriend no questions.
i agree from past posts too much work for little gain, my friend is killin match.com, i did well 4 years ago, but his chicks are fat and he does them? i will fuck my left hand for ever instead of a fat chick. i go to tj soon, then c.r. then s.e.asia. focus on myself get a hot 19-26 year old elsewhere, and yes i date regulars abroad tambien, a mi me gusta los dos lados de la moneda. regulares y prepagos jaajajajaThis I have to agree with this for the most part americans period are hung up on age. Both sexes.
But I think that is not a American thing. The countries where women have more opportunities as far as job, education. Then the less likely hood of a women in her 20s will date and older man. Of course there are always exceptions. You can even find them in the USA but its not the norm.
I have to admit even myself. Even though I want a younger women. When I see 40 to 50 yr guys with 20 something women. I think to myself. Damn you know she's taking him for his money. No real interest besides his wallet.
I can remember when I would see a old guy with a young girl I liked. I would always shoot her a line like. "when you get tired of seeing granddad, give me a call" or "when your granddad is sleeping. Give me a call".
So I understand the sentiment.
Good thing for women, Fluffy doesn't hold a grudge over being castrated... I mean, neutered.
Similar to pets, I cringe when I see single mothers training treating their teenage daughters more as new best friends more than their actual children ---- and then preparing them unconsciously but undeniably to hate and manipulate men.
Also, though, sure, I've been to houses of ill repute, I cringe when I see parents dressing their 10-year-old daughters in miniskirts.
Dogs = Little men on a leash.
Bango Cheito
10-04-10, 07:02
this i have to agree with this for the most part americans period are hung up on age. both sexes.
but i think that is not a american thing. the countries where women have more opportunities as far as job, education. then the less likely hood of a women in her 20s will date and older man. of course there are always exceptions. you can even find them in the usa but its not the norm.
i have to admit even myself. even though i want a younger women. when i see 40 to 50 yr guys with 20 something women. i think to myself. damn you know she's taking him for his money. no real interest besides his wallet.
i can remember when i would see a old guy with a young girl i liked. i would always shoot her a line like. "when you get tired of seeing granddad, give me a call" or "when your granddad is sleeping. give me a call".
so i understand the sentiment.
i'm broke as hell and 37 and i routinely date girls half my age, including ones with good jobs or ones with family money who do not need whatever little money i scrape together :p but part of the difference here in colombia is the median age is a mere 27 years, there was a huge baby boom between 1987 and 1993 here, so that skews things a bit. i really don't care about age. i'll date a 16 year old or a 60 year old, it makes no difference to me, there are a lot of extremely well preserved women here 40+ or even 50+... no problem... it's just that they're not as out there and widely available. also the younger crowd here tends to share my libertine views more ;)
one thing i will say... the world over, women talk a huge game about unconditional love and romance and a bunch of other things that are pure fucking bullshit.... chris rock said it best, no woman will tolerate a drop in lifestyle, there is no more sure relationship killer. and ultimately, there are three things that will land a woman on this planet, talking a good game (usually bullshitting her), being physically attractive (different women look for different thinkgs), and having $$$$.
if you are at the top of the game in any one of these areas you will do well with women. however, if you only talk a good game and are not outstanding in the looks or cash departments your conquests will be slower and less sure. money will attract the vast majority of women but don't expect anything resembling loyalty or fidelity from them. also, this technique requires you to keep a very high profile and this attracts a lot of people who want to separate you from your money through various means...
being extremely good-looking seems to be the most important factor to me. money is a limited resource, it will only take you so far, and making money takes time. your good looks once obtained don't really require that much maintenance, and they work right away. the only problem is that physically you will have a more limited appeal... money is more universal. but, with a strong physical attraction, you can meet a girl and that same night fuck her in the bar's bathroom. :p part of it is knowing your target demographic... you can't very easily score a biker chick if you go out looking all metrosexual :p
Bango Cheito
10-04-10, 07:09
As an example, how many times in my life have I heard a woman say "I have no idea why I fell for that man, we don't have much in common, he's not my type physically etc. HE MUST HAVE PUT A SPELL ON ME OR SOMETHING..." pure fucking horseshit... that man in question somehow is NEVER exactly in the poor house ;)
DJ FourMoney
10-04-10, 09:00
Dj
I Never called you a loser. Amd even being socially inept doesn't make one a loser as the recent movie shows that. The creator of face book was is a self professed socially inept person. Everyone is not going to be capable of all things. You speak of these women who contact you. But thats thru internet which is a major means of communication for the socially arkward people just as the face book guy created for himself. It allows you to post without really having to approach a person. And not having to face rejection in a public setting. Like in a bar, club, where people can see you getting turned down or not. I'm sure as a DJ you got women to talk to you. Maybe even scored with a few. Under those circumstances, had you been on your game. You should of had women on demand. Not occasionally. But anytime you wanted. I was a club rat and the DJs always had babes drooling to be with them. One of my good friends was a DJ back in the Day. That was his modis operadi. He was the Dj and got numbers all night long. He used to always say" yeah I saved her life last night" because of that one song. Last night a DJ saved my life.
I say just because you strike out. Don't quit the game. Babe ruth held the record for striking out. A couple of seasons. But it didn't stop him from still swinging for the Home run. Because in the end. Its the home runs that count not the strike outs. A lot of guys who complain focus too much on the strike outs. Well we all have ran into women with bad attitudes, rejection, whatever. But if you "keep on truckin" to quote the late Eddie Kendricks. You going to hit that home run and find that woman who is "all that and a bag of chips" and not just once but you got to keep swinging or you can't hit the home run. It like you guys quit the Majors and went to the little league where you have the advantage. So yeah. You can hit a home run easier. But it aint the same game. You're not playing on a level playing field. But to each his own.
I just say DJ. You can score. I know guys in your situation and they still get women. Its all about attitude. Keep swinging DJ.
TG
It was anytime I wanted actually, I just didn't bother most of the time. As I said I'm quite selective.
But the situation has gone from bad to worst. I automatically assume that women are tight with their age limits so why bother? I desire to have children, but not with some 35 yr old woman with biological clock ticking so loud I can hear it over the boom of the bass.
Also even in nightclubs its the overabundance of Single Mothers and Obese women. If not that, its women that work soft white collar or pink collar jobs that scream they are independent which to them makes my living arrangement unacceptable.
So I don't even bother locally.
Also I don't like my chances for success its more like a crap shoot in America, if previous track record is any indication. Its likely a compromise I am not willing to live with.
Its not about swinging, I've never played the numbers game (at bats) to increase my chances (average). Now I just see no point in doing so. However, I will do it. Why? because its the lowest cost option, unless I find a woman from country on the Visa Wavier Program, some of which have Slavic women in them (Poland for example).
I'm just in a holding pattern because of economics.
DJ FourMoney
10-04-10, 11:04
Good thing for women, Fluffy doesn't hold a grudge over being castrated... I mean, neutered.
Similar to pets, I cringe when I see single mothers training treating their teenage daughters more as new best friends more than their actual children ---- and then preparing them unconsciously but undeniably to hate and manipulate men.
Also, though, sure, I've been to houses of ill repute, I cringe when I see parents dressing their 10-year-old daughters in miniskirts.
You mean like that Tide Ad where the daughter ask mom where's her favorite blouse and mom thinks "oh shit, I was at the club with my other single mother friends and got some food on it!" While daughter is looking all over the house, mom sheepishly sneaks to the clothes hamper and proceeds to wash said blouse in Tide. Then it magically appears in daughters closet...
There is this trend of some women never growing up basically or wanting to be BGF's with their daughters. Occasionally a Single father and his son will go on adventures and that's generally accepted I suppose including both going to Russia to find brides and succeeding.
http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2010/10/04/2010-10-04_sex.html
I expect a full frontal assault on this one fellows.
Anyone want to bet this Judge was being blackmailed and refused to pay up. I can almost guarantee the stripper placed the firearms, drugs etc in his car. What a dumb ass!!
A federal judge faces drug and firearms charges after an exotic dancer at an Atlanta strip club told authorities the judge used cocaine, marijuana and other illegal drugs with her.
Attorneys for Senior U.S. District Judge Jack T. Camp said after a hearing Monday that the 67-year-old intends to plead not guilty. He was released on a $50,000 unsecured bond.
Authorities say in an affidavit Camp paid a dancer at Goldrush Showbar to have sex with her in early 2010. The informant also told authorities the two used drugs together on several occasions.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/04/national/main6927281
DJ FourMoney
10-05-10, 20:16
http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/health/2010/10/04/2010-10-04_sex.html
I expect a full frontal assault on this one fellows.
Is there anything really shocking here? Besides the small sample (just about 6,000 people), women have been faking it and its both parties fault, its called lack of communication. Experimentation is always going to be higher than people admit because certain things always put people's sexuality into question if they admit to enjoying it. Anal has just become more acceptable because it appears more in porn, simple as that.
Keep it movin....
Is there anything really shocking here? Besides the small sample (just about 6,000 people), women have been faking it and its both parties fault, its called lack of communication. Experimentation is always going to be higher than people admit because certain things always put people's sexuality into question if they admit to enjoying it. Anal has just become more acceptable because it appears more in porn, simple as that.
Keep it movin....
I would like to know how many guys have tried sucking their own dick and succeeded? That would be more revealing.
Obviously that would only relate to the western world.
Lg Electronics
10-06-10, 01:53
I'm not sure how many of you keep up on such things, but it seems like there's a "Pick up artist" movement in America, wherein men try to learn how to pick up women by purposely treating them badly so that they show how cool they are and women then want them. Does this. Exist in other countries?
I've traveled to around 20 other countries, but never for longer than 2 months, and so I've been wondering this for a really long time.
Thanks guys!
DJ FourMoney
10-07-10, 02:46
I'm not sure how many of you keep up on such things, but it seems like there's a "Pick up artist" movement in America, wherein men try to learn how to pick up women by purposely treating them badly so that they show how cool they are and women then want them. Does this. Exist in other countries?
I've traveled to around 20 other countries, but never for longer than 2 months, and so I've been wondering this for a really long time.
Thanks guys!
I doubt it, for causal adventures it doesn't seem to be needed in Western Europe, the only other culture I'm familiar with.
ThatGuy865
10-07-10, 02:51
I'm not sure how many of you keep up on such things, but it seems like there's a "Pick up artist" movement in America, wherein men try to learn how to pick up women by purposely treating them badly so that they show how cool they are and women then want them. Does this. Exist in other countries?
I've traveled to around 20 other countries, but never for longer than 2 months, and so I've been wondering this for a really long time.
Thanks guys!I think this movement is only in your head.
I doubt it, for causal adventures it doesn't seem to be needed in Western Europe, the only other culture I'm familiar with.
Sounds like classic machismo, South American style.
I'm not sure how many of you keep up on such things, but it seems like there's a "Pick up artist" movement in America, wherein men try to learn how to pick up women by purposely treating them badly so that they show how cool they are and women then want them. Does this. Exist in other countries?
I've traveled to around 20 other countries, but never for longer than 2 months, and so I've been wondering this for a really long time.
Thanks guys!
About 5 or so years ago when this first started me and a buddy of mine read through it and tried a lot of it.
It's not in other countries because it's not needed. Only in America where the mentality is backwards you would use this to get chicks.
Then I started traveling and saw how real women are...
I'm not sure how many of you keep up on such things, but it seems like there's a "Pick up artist" movement in America, wherein men try to learn how to pick up women by purposely treating them badly so that they show how cool they are and women then want them. Does this. Exist in other countries?
I've traveled to around 20 other countries, but never for longer than 2 months, and so I've been wondering this for a really long time.
Thanks guys!I think it is mostly in America-like countries. Also it is a business to make money from people's(men's) problems.
In other countries this bullshit is not needed. If you are normal guy you do not need to learn tricks to seduce a good woman in a normal way. Only in USA etc.. most guys have to jump over their heads to get some attention from an ugly broad.
DJ FourMoney
10-08-10, 08:50
Sounds like classic machismo, South American style.
No I don't think so, in Sweden for example, you basically just need to chat-up a girl. Dating American style doesn't quite apply and if all you wanted as a one-night stand, there's isn't as much aversion to it as in the US.
In Germany its pretty much US style without the typical attitude we've come accustom too in America.
That's why I've constantly said, I have much better selection in Western Europe than I have had at home and has nothing to do with my economic status, the women are just thinner and better looking. Also they don't have the same problems with teen pregnancy as we do (and the UK does) so the chances of you finding early to mid 30's women never married, without children is much higher and as I said they don't have elitist attitudes that often accompany women in the US.
DJ FourMoney
10-08-10, 08:53
About 5 or so years ago when this first started me and a buddy of mine read through it and tried a lot of it.
It's not in other countries because it's not needed. Only in America where the mentality is backwards you would use this to get chicks.
Then I started traveling and saw how real women are...
Yep, I went right up to one of the best looking woman I've ever seen in Norway and she didn't bite my head off. I was a complete stranger and she didn't mind tell me at all what was going on in town. I already knew I just wanted to strike up a conversion.
I wasn't in any country long enough to settle-in and really take advantage that I was not in America anymore. I spent most of my time in Germany but I didn't have a handle on the nightlife yet. I have a better handle on it now, but I rather give up on casual pursuits and just focus on women that share the same end result I want.
I think this movement is only in your head.
It is quite big actually. And I think just proves how screwed up the mentality of the American woman is. Poor guys over there need to be taught how to get women now!
You will argue how it is the men's fault though, but I see it as the women being backwards.
Maybe everyone on this board is more alpha male than men in America...
It is quite big actually. And I think just proves how screwed up the mentality of the American woman is. Poor guys over there need to be taught how to get women now!
You will argue how it is the men's fault though, but I see it as the women being backwards.
Maybe everyone on this board is more alpha male than men in America...What's remarkable, all this "pick up" movements make everything even worse, since it teaches men try harder to get women, men need to look better, to talk better, to be smartasses, to spend more money, to pretend to be "cool", "funny", etcc.. So women are getting worse, since now it's not them, now it is men who need to amuse the women. Too bad for the guys. Here in central Asia it is the women who need to amuse me. In addition to photomodel looks need to look for more qualities, and still hard to select one from the crowd. Many somewhat successful guys end up having several wives. In USA it is quite opposite. They would be "losers" as well as myself.
Excuse me, DJ, my mistake - I meant to quote LG's "Pick-up artist movement" post, which you'd cited in the post I did quote.
I'm no 'James Bond' and I'm certainly no 'Ice Rapper' to be trying to pull the smart-azz routine for impressing any young woman. It suits my feelings much better to be polite and friendly - but then, I'm also convinced that I don't have anything about me to impress, entice, or elicit a favorable response from any woman in the USA who isn't already using blue rinse to pretty up her white hair.
The best I can be is a sugar-daddy ... okay. But my pension won't stretch far enough to sugar-daddy any USA woman I'd like to have as my sugar-baby. Oh well, in that respect it sucks to be me....
No I don't think so, in Sweden for example, you basically just need to chat-up a girl. Dating American style doesn't quite apply and if all you wanted as a one-night stand, there's isn't as much aversion to it as in the US.
In Germany its pretty much US style without the typical attitude we've come accustom too in America.
That's why I've constantly said, I have much better selection in Western Europe than I have had at home and has nothing to do with my economic status, the women are just thinner and better looking. Also they don't have the same problems with teen pregnancy as we do (and the UK does) so the chances of you finding early to mid 30's women never married, without children is much higher and as I said they don't have elitist attitudes that often accompany women in the US.
Now don't get me wrong, I like me some titty, especially the dark nippled variety. And the women in my office know men like titty, because that's the one asset they always advertise with low cut blouses.
But with these women, who are an easy 20 pounds overweight each, I just have a hard time using the word "cleavage."
For them, the phrase "boob crack" will henceforth be used. My boss, who's actually got boobs, often will display a good four or five inches of boob crack.
I am just a man, so I avert my eyes sometimes or I'll be staring right at the boob crack. Despite the fact she wears more makeup than Marcel Marceau, despite the fact that she's an overbearing c#nt, my eyes can be drawn to the mysterious depths of the boob crack.
The other broad has no boobs at all. Tragic. But she still proudly displays her chest and the edges of her bra.
ThatGuy865
10-08-10, 20:40
It is quite big actually. And I think just proves how screwed up the mentality of the American woman is. Poor guys over there need to be taught how to get women now!
You will argue how it is the men's fault though, but I see it as the women being backwards.
Maybe everyone on this board is more alpha male than men in America.quite BIG by who's standard. What you mean is. A lot of guys read that crap. Well yeah. Does it work. Bullshit. You can't learn to pick up women thru no book, video. There are no scienticfic rules with women. They are emotional and illogical. Women sleep with guys for all kind/types of silly reasons. Cause she feels sorry for him. Or he has money. Or his eyes look good. Or he dresses good. There are no sure fired methods.
Now if you mean those guys sell a lot of books. Well there are alot of guys with no game. Sure. But if you are afraid of rejection. You will still get rejected so the book isn't going to change that. Thats like saying theres a real estate mogul movement going. Because all those guys on those commercials selling "Make a million using my real estate buying techniques" they sell alot of books also and are frequently on best seller list. But we are in a real estate bust right now.
If you are a shy guy. No book is going to turn your personality around instantly. They can't give you pat lines that work in every situation. All that is happening is Guys are making MONEY off of guys who have no game and seek to some. Its just the scam for the ages. The old tonic water of the millineum. And by the sound of it. You donated some funds to help make one of these guys rich too.
For every "Pick up book/technique" told to you. Women have 100 magazines articles, books tell them to do the complete opposite. Have you heard of that book '"the rules" a best seller. It tells women. Not to even kiss on the 1st date let alone fuck. You don't get the pussy until you commit. For life. Look at bristol palin. Getting paid. Traveling around the country. To tell young women to abstain until they're married. And this after she already has had a baby out of wed lock. I'm not arguing. Guys don't check it out. But a movement. Thats another thing completely. Women are a tough nut to crack and there are no sure fired ways. Just guys have confidence and get women and some don't. And those guys with it have tapped into the fact that those that don't will pay to try to get it. Thats all.
I think plenty of men scratch their heads going to the grave trying to figure out women.
I'd say for sure that women generally seek men with some means to provide a comfortable level of living. And I'd say that some also hold men to a high level of etiquette and ass kissing for you to get into their pants.
But I also truly believe that some simply need a dude with somewhat compatible interests and life experiences. I generally can hit it off well with alcoholic women, but that's a road to trouble.
I'm not sure how many of you keep up on such things, but it seems like there's a "Pick up artist" movement in America, wherein men try to learn how to pick up women by purposely treating them badly so that they show how cool they are and women then want them. Does this. Exist in other countries?
I've traveled to around 20 other countries, but never for longer than 2 months, and so I've been wondering this for a really long time.
Thanks guys!
LG Electronics, Great question!
"Pick up artist" movement practically not exists in Russia.
Although I heard, that small group of Russian in Moscow practice this.
Pick up in Russia happend naturaly. You just need to be in right mood and not afraid to start talking to woman.
If she interesting, the connection happend automatically.
I have to admit that pick up technique developed by Americans guys are very powerful
I tried it and even in Russia it works very well, accelerating the whole process.
It is interesting, I watched some guys in Russia, how they pick up girls.
Some of them use almost the same tactics as pick up artists, but do it intuitively.
There is an art to flirting. Some men are good at it and some aren't. For most guys the art of flirting gets easier when barriers are down and people are just being people. Unfortunately this doesn't happen in popular places where people go to hook up. IMHO those guys would do better being introduced to a girl through a friend of through other hobbies and interests.
For those that like to perform there will always be woman willing to watch you entertain them.
I never understood the "treat a girl like shit" routine to get laid. I guess I could see where a woman could get off on it but I totally don't understand it from a guy's point of view. Maybe I am over thinking it.
I guess these are all mysteries of the female gender. When I like somebody I let them know it. That' all I do.
I sound like andy rooney from 60 minutes!
Andy
LG Electronics, Great question!
"Pick up artist" movement practically not exists in Russia.
Although I heard, that small group of Russian in Moscow practice this.
Pick up in Russia happend naturaly. You just need to be in right mood and not afraid to start talking to woman.
If she interesting, the connection happend automatically.
I have to admit that pick up technique developed by Americans guys are very powerful
I tried it and even in Russia it works very well, accelerating the whole process.
It is interesting, I watched some guys in Russia, how they pick up girls.
Some of them use almost the same tactics as pick up artists, but do it intuitively.In Russia and similar(FSU), one does not need those smartass tactics too much. Often even a shy guy can get incredible hot and nice woman.
Also sometime the reputation of being a "playboy" will make it even worse. Good women will avoid such guys.
Or another problem, if you are too good in this, you will have hard time managing all the girls and getting rid off them. I have already had this problem in FSU, even during last month, had to dump one crazy horny girl, also now another girl(who was dumped months ago) is trying to get back to me. Yesterday went to a friend's wedding and ended up partially fucking bride's best girlfriend after wedding in their hotel room. She is a horny 21 year old virgin, much younger than me, today she was messaging me asking how come I forget about her too quickly. In USA I would have almost no game. In USA it takes months trying hard to find something for me. Here it happens all the time.
BTW I'm not talking about average girls. By American standards they all would be 7-9, for some people 10. I do not even look at average girl here.
What's remarkable, all this "pick up" movements make everything even worse, since it teaches men try harder to get women, men need to look better, to talk better, to be smartasses, to spend more money, to pretend to be "cool", "funny", etcc.. .
Sorry, but probably you have not seen the proper Pick Up artists's articles or videos.
They promote the exactly opposite that you think.
They don't teach to be a better guy.
They teach to be more dominant and demanding with women.
Sorry, but probably you have not seen the proper Pick Up artists's articles or videos.
They promote the exactly opposite that you think.
They don't teach to be a better guy.
They teach to be more dominant and demanding with women.ok, I guess I was not accurate. I have seen those articles/videos. That is true, initially they say that you have to be dominant etc. The problem is that in feminist society this is not welcomed. There are even groups of guys who do it together. I have seen those guys in NYC, they spend years and lots of money and time trying it, learning, etcc. They are taught how to talk to girls, how to be interesting etc. In reality they do try hard with not much result for many of them. I was subscribed for their newsletter for while, after a while reading their emails, I had come to a conclusion it is still lots bullshit and wasting of time. In the best case one would probably get a somewhat better than average girl after lots of time and money spent.
The problem is that there are not enough "good" women in USA, no matter how hard they try, most people will not get shit. In other places I see some really messed up guys by American standards with no game(or opposite to pickup artists game) get fine girls all the time.
I guess these are all mysteries of the female gender. When I like somebody I let them know it. That' all I do.
Andy
It is only half of equation. The more important she should smell she is not only one. Then her jealocy makes the rest of the work. Nothing mysterious.
It is only half of equation. The more important she should smell she is not only one. Then her jealocy makes the rest of the work. Nothing mysterious.
Again here we go catering to women's odd tastes. *Pretend she isn't the only one and it's no big deal if you don't get laid. That's way too psychotic for me.
All the power to you if it works but that type of flirting doesn't makes sense to me. Maybe in a hooker bar it would but not in real life.
Again here we go catering to women's odd tastes. *Pretend she isn't the only one and it's no big deal if you don't get laid. That's way too psychotic for me.
I did not say "pretend". You don't need pretend at all.
Just fuck the woman "A" and women "B" smells it even if you try hide it.
It is the change in your mood, yours satisfaction with your life (after good sex),
few silly commmetns that you tell her, things like this make women "B" smells
that you on the market right now and this makes her jealous.
Right flirt message: By the way, I like you, but I also can enjoy life without you.
ThatGuy865
10-12-10, 02:34
have you guys ever considered that maybe one of many different reasons for aw being a bit harder to approach also stems from the media in america which instills fear in women. america is a much more violent place than anywhere in europe or asia. do you know any european country which has as many publicized women victimizers, of all races and walks of life. we have the famous women killers o. j.. robert blake (baretta). we have the serial [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126). ted budy. richard ramirez. the socialite. the central park preppie murder. and these are just the most infamous. let alone all the local known [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) each major city infamously has publicized.
you don't see, or hear 1/10th of these types of reports outside of america. do they have [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) and murders in other countries. of course the do. but due to our afluence. we have more people with more tv and with more channels and our news focuses on these violent crimes.
aw are constantly bombarded with messages telling them not to trust men you do not know.
while foreign women don't have this message bombarding them constantly. there fore they are more at ease with a strange man approaching them and striking up a conversation.
i mean this is not the only reason. but it definitely plays into it.
as for "pick up" books/videos thats just guys who have realized there is a market of insecure guys who will buy this material. so you now see more of it. its sort of like the "i'll make you a millionare thru real estate" books/videos.
they sell because of statistics. you use any approach enough time and eventually you are going to score. so the guy who reads the "pick up" info. thinks its because. oh i used their technique and it worked. no. before you wouldn't try. and now you are. so yeah you scored. it wasnt a technique it was purely numbers.
their are no sure fired ways. being a bad boy for this one may not work. but eventually you'll find one who likes the bad boy routine. same as if you just went and said "hello, my name is " and stuck up a conversation. it might not work for one. but will with another.
those are purely money making scemes. just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. fuck them. suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but i bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say.
DJ FourMoney
10-12-10, 03:18
I did not say "pretend". You don't need pretend at all.
Just fuck the woman "A" and women "B" smells it even if you try hide it.
It is the change in your mood, yours satisfaction with your life (after good sex),
few silly commmetns that you tell her, things like this make women "B" smells
that you on the market right now and this makes her jealous.
Right flirt message: By the way, I like you, but I also can enjoy life without you.
I will agree you give off a different vibe or even scent when you've just had sex with another woman. Women will wonder if there's something about you, not so much that you might be a hoe, but that you were interesting enough for another woman to give you some.
Depending on where you are and what you want from life, I would agree you don't need tricks you just need to be honest and straight-forward. The key(s) I believe are do you want to just get laid/girlfriends or do you want a wife?
If you want the former then you can spend the money to make yourself look good, smell nice, appear interesting and in-control. As long as you don't say "I sit around all day playing Xbox" then most women will find whatever it is you do interesting (unless you work at Target/Wal-Mart/ToysRus).
If you want the latter, I say go overseas and don't even bother looking here.
Above all be yourself and tell the TRUTH!
Wanderer1000
10-12-10, 14:35
Once in awhile, you say something that makes me think you're not a woman.
"Those are purely money making scemes. Just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. Fuck them. Suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but I bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say."
DJ FourMoney
10-12-10, 22:08
have you guys ever considered that maybe one of many different reasons for aw being a bit harder to approach also stems from the media in america which instills fear in women. america is a much more violent place than anywhere in europe or asia. do you know any european country which has as many publicized women victimizers, of all races and walks of life. we have the famous women killers o. j.. robert blake (baretta). we have the serial [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126). ted budy. richard ramirez. the socialite. the central park preppie murder. and these are just the most infamous. let alone all the local known [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) each major city infamously has publicized.
you don't see, or hear 1/10th of these types of reports outside of america. do they have [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) and murders in other countries. of course the do. but due to our afluence. we have more people with more tv and with more channels and our news focuses on these violent crimes.
aw are constantly bombarded with messages telling them not to trust men you do not know.
while foreign women don't have this message bombarding them constantly. there fore they are more at ease with a strange man approaching them and striking up a conversation.
i mean this is not the only reason. but it definitely plays into it.
as for "pick up" books/videos thats just guys who have realized there is a market of insecure guys who will buy this material. so you now see more of it. its sort of like the "i'll make you a millionare thru real estate" books/videos.
they sell because of statistics. you use any approach enough time and eventually you are going to score. so the guy who reads the "pick up" info. thinks its because. oh i used their technique and it worked. no. before you wouldn't try. and now you are. so yeah you scored. it wasnt a technique it was purely numbers.
their are no sure fired ways. being a bad boy for this one may not work. but eventually you'll find one who likes the bad boy routine. same as if you just went and said "hello, my name is " and stuck up a conversation. it might not work for one. but will with another.
those are purely money making scemes. just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. fuck them. suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but i bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say.
because "cowboy capitalism" is flawed and yammering on about "free markets" is complete utter bs. by ensuring we have a permanent underclass, we don't have it any better than many 3rd world/developing nations. we have squaller as well, its just not seen by many people.
a social-democracy paired with a educated populace results in less wackos in government, far more moderation in governance and far more engaged population, politically. when sweden had a banking crisis much like we have, there wasn't much "free market" screaming i'm sure and they did wrote down the debt, kicked out the management, cleaned up the books and put it back on the market for sale. that's what the fdic should do with banks like citi group... it was okay to tell the uaw to fuck off and have pre-packaged bankruptcy for gm and chrysler, but not the for the banks?
when morons scream we don't have socialism, what the hell do you call rich people screwing the middle and working poor out of their wages and then running to the government for a bail out? the biggest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen (over a trillion dollars).
we don't take mental health seriously, we treat criminals no better than caged animals. american's love their animals so much but have no idea about the cat and puppy factories. they don't even think to look in a shelter where morons buy animals and then mistreat them because we don't have any sort of solidarity/unity or sense of community.
there are fundamental problems with the united states of america, its a banana republic with crumbling infrastructure and the rich believe they have protected themselves with private security forces and gated communities.
if these morons crash the economy again (which is likely) when the fraud inside all the foreclosures is fully uncovered and one or two of the biggest banks go down, they'll be looking to get bailed out once again and the public won't tolerate it, get ready....
ThatGuy865
10-13-10, 17:57
Because "Cowboy Capitalism" is flawed and yammering on about "Free Markets" is complete utter BS. By ensuring we have a permanent underclass, we don't have it any better than many 3rd World/Developing Nations. We have squaller as well, its just not seen by many people.
A Social-Democracy paired with a educated populace results in less wackos in Government, far more moderation in Governance and far more engaged population, politically. When Sweden had a banking crisis much like we have, there wasn't much "Free Market" screaming I'm sure and they did wrote down the debt, kicked out the management, cleaned up the books and put it back on the market for sale. That's what the FDIC should do with banks like Citi Group... It was okay to tell the UAW to fuck off and have pre-packaged Bankruptcy for GM and Chrysler, but not the for the banks?
When morons scream we don't have Socialism, what the hell do you call Rich People screwing the Middle and Working poor out of their wages and then running to the Government for a Bail Out? The biggest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen (over a trillion dollars).
We don't take mental health seriously, we treat criminals no better than caged animals. American's love their animals so much but have no idea about the cat and puppy factories. They don't even think to look in a shelter where morons buy animals and then mistreat them because we don't have any sort of solidarity/unity or sense of community.
There are fundamental problems with the United States of America, its a Banana Republic with crumbling infrastructure and the Rich believe they have protected themselves with private security forces and gated communities.
If these morons crash the economy again (which is likely) when the FRAUD inside all the foreclosures is fully uncovered and one or two of the biggest banks go down, they'll be looking to get bailed out once again and the public won't tolerate it, get ready....No wonder you haven't graduated. Your comprehension is terrible. I spoke of violence on women. I don't know what the hell your rant has to do with that.
Gentleman Travel
10-13-10, 19:35
Just like the books and magazines for women. "how to keep your man" not one say "when he get off work. Fuck them. Suck his dick, have a meal and a beer ready" but I bet most men would stay much longer than anything those mag's/books say.
Not true. Cosmo is always telling women how to be hotter, how to seduce a man, recommending spicing things up in the bedroom, favourite sex positions, etc. They set up the woman if not as a predator, at least as a seductress. The advice is not as succinct as yours, but basically in the same vein. As opposed to "The Rules" which are a good way for a woman to marry a wussy, or probably grow old as a "good girl" spinster.
I have read a bit of the pick up artist stuff and some of it sounds helpful, but much of it is pretty mechanical and systems oriented and sounds dubious. I think the main take away, which is the same advice we hear here all the time, is "be a man, be confident, and don't be a supplicant."
This also ties in to what Lenin was saying. If you already getting sex, it is easier to get more of it. Because you are confident and can take it or leave it with a particular girl. You will also tend to be more demanding when in a relationship (no matter how short term) - "hey girl, if I'm not getting what I want from you, I will find it elsewhere." It encourages you to push the envelope a bit and probably create a better experience for both of you. Most women don't want to lead things in the bedroom, but many men are too afraid to be demanding.
A master monger on the Russian board always recommends starting a trip out with some P4P, so you will already be on the scoreboard and confident when you start hunting freebies. Of course it is not the same things at all, but it allows you to take the position (and realize for yourself) that you WANT to have a relationship (or one night stand) with HER, but do not NEED her for sex - you can buy that on any street corner for half the cost and hassle. They know that they are a fungible commodity.
One big problem with the pick up artist methods is they seem to rely on being in a target rich, welcoming environment, like a night club. Problem is, guys over a certain age cannot really operate in that environment in America - we are just too out of place. And the girls would not even recognize you as a potential flirter if there is more than a 10 year age gap, they would just think you are creepy. Whereas you can cruise bars and initiatiate conversations with 20-something girls in other cultures.
Oh Ya Papi
10-14-10, 01:02
too funny, i also hate back fat a aw phenomonon
Now don't get me wrong, I like me some titty, especially the dark nippled variety. And the women in my office know men like titty, because that's the one asset they always advertise with low cut blouses.
But with these women, who are an easy 20 pounds overweight each, I just have a hard time using the word "cleavage."
For them, the phrase "boob crack" will henceforth be used. My boss, who's actually got boobs, often will display a good four or five inches of boob crack.
I am just a man, so I avert my eyes sometimes or I'll be staring right at the boob crack. Despite the fact she wears more makeup than Marcel Marceau, despite the fact that she's an overbearing c#nt, my eyes can be drawn to the mysterious depths of the boob crack.
The other broad has no boobs at all. Tragic. But she still proudly displays her chest and the edges of her bra.
Bango Cheito
10-14-10, 04:08
Works for me, every time I go back to the putas interest peaks from regular girls.....
Not true. Cosmo is always telling women how to be hotter, how to seduce a man, recommending spicing things up in the bedroom, favourite sex positions, etc. They set up the woman if not as a predator, at least as a seductress. The advice is not as succinct as yours, but basically in the same vein. As opposed to "The Rules" which are a good way for a woman to marry a wussy, or probably grow old as a "good girl" spinster.
I have read a bit of the pick up artist stuff and some of it sounds helpful, but much of it is pretty mechanical and systems oriented and sounds dubious. I think the main take away, which is the same advice we hear here all the time, is "be a man, be confident, and don't be a supplicant."
This also ties in to what Lenin was saying. If you already getting sex, it is easier to get more of it. Because you are confident and can take it or leave it with a particular girl. You will also tend to be more demanding when in a relationship (no matter how short term) - "hey girl, if I'm not getting what I want from you, I will find it elsewhere." It encourages you to push the envelope a bit and probably create a better experience for both of you. Most women don't want to lead things in the bedroom, but many men are too afraid to be demanding.
A master monger on the Russian board always recommends starting a trip out with some P4P, so you will already be on the scoreboard and confident when you start hunting freebies. Of course it is not the same things at all, but it allows you to take the position (and realize for yourself) that you WANT to have a relationship (or one night stand) with HER, but do not NEED her for sex - you can buy that on any street corner for half the cost and hassle. They know that they are a fungible commodity.
One big problem with the pick up artist methods is they seem to rely on being in a target rich, welcoming environment, like a night club. Problem is, guys over a certain age cannot really operate in that environment in America - we are just too out of place. And the girls would not even recognize you as a potential flirter if there is more than a 10 year age gap, they would just think you are creepy. Whereas you can cruise bars and initiatiate conversations with 20-something girls in other cultures.
Gotta love those Germans! What are the chances, you'll see an ad like this play on American TV? Nada, zip, no way!
http://foxnews.gr/wp-content/plugins/vipers-video-quicktags/resources/jw-flv-player/player.swf?file=http://live.fox365.com/videos/funny/2009/sprite_adv_fox365.flv
On another point, most Americans would throw a hissy fit seeing a mother breast feeding in public.
DJ FourMoney
10-15-10, 20:37
No wonder you haven't graduated. Your comprehension is terrible. I spoke of violence on women. I don't know what the hell your rant has to do with that.
You know FUCK you, I went on a rant, simple and I connected our flawed WAY OF LIFE to American Women acting stupid.
It has nothing to do with my education Flat Head. I've had it with you, banned again.
DJ FourMoney
10-15-10, 20:44
Gotta love those Germans! What are the chances, you'll see an ad like this play on American TV? Nada, zip, no way!
http://foxnews.gr/wp-content/plugins/vipers-video-quicktags/resources/jw-flv-player/player.swf?file=http://live.fox365.com/videos/funny/2009/sprite_adv_fox365.flv
On another point, most Americans would throw a hissy fit seeing a mother breast feeding in public.
America is what it is, largely not sure if it can be corrected. The moral MINORITY has a bit too much power.
Australiasucks
10-15-10, 21:06
aw sickos:
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/10/15/3107290/autopsy-calif-toddler-twins-died.html
a mother killed her two 3 year old twin girls, this only gets a small peep on the news.
Australiasucks
10-15-10, 21:11
Gotta love those Germans! What are the chances, you'll see an ad like this play on American TV? Nada, zip, no way!
http://foxnews.gr/wp-content/plugins/vipers-video-quicktags/resources/jw-flv-player/player.swf?file=http://live.fox365.com/videos/funny/2009/sprite_adv_fox365.flv
On another point, most Americans would throw a hissy fit seeing a mother breast feeding in public.If they had an ad like that in the US, people would be in outrage, many would find it to be racist. I was surprised that some people in America got into uproar about an Australian KFC commercial.
Try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa-jJAkx9MI&feature=related
Gentleman Travel
10-15-10, 21:33
As for "pick up" books/videos thats just guys who have realized there is a market of insecure guys who will buy this material... You use any approach enough time and eventually you are going to score. So the guy who reads the "pick up" info. Thinks its because. Oh I used their technique and it worked. No. Before you wouldn't try. And now you are. So yeah you scored. It wasnt a technique it was purely numbers.
Is it permissible to agree with That Guy on something in this group?
OK, I am only half agreeing with him - yes, getting into the game is the most important factor in scoring.
But the other thing the "technique" gives guys is confidence, which is the second most important factor to success.
Like any placebo, if you really THINK its going to work, it probably will help.
Any actually useful tips or techniques you might learn are just gravy!
Bango Cheito
10-15-10, 23:57
It is a numbers game but I've seen guys have an 80% rate or higher.... it has to do with being physically gorgeous filthy rich or both ;)
I was in Grand Rapids MI for a evening and I called an escort for an outcall at my room in hotel based on advt in yellow pages; viz. GIRLFRIEND EXPERINCE A vii vii iii-9v4viii, AND LO; a mother of one kid with lot of stretch matrks visited my room. She was half ARAB though american by birth. As usual we have to pay upfront which I did. After some time she said she forgot condoms, which I had to produce from my stock; again after some time she said she has to get her bag from car from parking lot of hotel. And before I could protest or argue, she dressed and went leaving only her socks as if enough colateral; never to return. Senior mongers, pl advise how would you manage such situations? This is my first experience of Major CHEATING / Fraud Be carefule of this half Arab girl, its the pressure of motherhood probably makes her so mean minded and cheat and not her ethnicity.
ThatGuy865
10-16-10, 02:48
It is a numbers game but I've seen guys have an 80% rate or higher. It has to do with being physically gorgeous filthy rich or both.The only reason those kind of guys have a 80% or higher ratio. If indeed they do. Is because they don't usually go on the hunt. They stand back and wait to see what they attract. Its a big difference. If you are that physically attractive or flashing cash (which you'd have to do for a girl to know your rich) then you will attract women to you. But what I find with the physically attractive types. Is they lack any type of personality and eventually it catches up with them I. E. Case in point a poor Marlon brando type. A guy who in his 20s and 30s to women was to die for. But once he past 40. And not a movie star or rich he better be into mongering. Otherwise he's SOL.
Sometimes what helps me is dating women I'm not all that attracted to. Easy to blow them off, and the more you do that, the more they want you.
That's half joking. When I'm dating a woman whom I know I won't be compatible with, I often go the near silent route, just letting them do all the talking. I'm not too good at putting forth a false front, so in essence I take the fifth.
I choose not to incriminate myself with sincere statements or opinions.
Ever notice how sometimes in bars, it's like those contests where everyone fights to be the last one with their hand remaining on a car? If you can maintain contact long enough, you win it?
Often in bars I've noticed guys drinking with women and catering to their egos until the wee hours. I'll admit that if I'm among a group of guys vying for a woman's attention over many drinks, I most often say fuck it and throw the towel in early on.
have you guys ever considered that maybe one of many different reasons for aw being a bit harder to approach also stems from the media in america which instills fear in women.
america is a much more violent place than anywhere in europe or asia. do you know any european country which has as many publicized women victimizers, of all races and walks of life. we have the famous women killers o. j.. robert blake (baretta). we have the serial [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126). ted budy. richard ramirez. the socialite. the central park preppie murder. and these are just the most infamous. let alone all the local known [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) each major city infamously has publicized.
you don't see, or hear 1/10th of these types of reports outside of america. do they have [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) and murders in other countries. of course the do. but due to our afluence. we have more people with more tv and with more channels and our news focuses on these violent crimes.
aw are constantly bombarded with messages telling them not to trust men you do not know.
while foreign women don't have this message bombarding them constantly. there fore they are more at ease with a strange man approaching them and striking up a conversation.
i mean this is not the only reason. but it definitely plays into it.i agree a lot on this. so this is one of the big reason why aw are the way they are, but this does not make them any good anyway.
still usa is some of the safest countries or at least public places are very safe, but the women are really afraid of men. also in usa it is very easy punish a man if he only touches a woman.
on the other hand in other countries, women are in much more unsafe to them environment, but still they are much more approachable, also easily would go to your home(except places with certain traditions).
And before I could protest or argue, she dressed and went leaving only her socks as if enough colateral; never to return. Senior mongers, pl advise how would you manage such situations? This is my first experience of Major CHEATING / Fraud Be carefule of this half Arab girl, its the pressure of motherhood probably makes her so mean minded and cheat and not her ethnicity.The best is never call an escort in USA. Unless it is recommended by a friend who had an actual experience with them. Save your money and nerves for something somewhere else. From what you've described, what happened to you was probably much better than fucking that nasty broad and have nightmares afterwards.
Bango Cheito
10-16-10, 17:42
The only reason those kind of guys have a 80% or higher ratio. If indeed they do. Is because they don't usually go on the hunt. They stand back and wait to see what they attract. Its a big difference. If you are that physically attractive or flashing cash (which you'd have to do for a girl to know your rich) then you will attract women to you. But what I find with the physically attractive types. Is they lack any type of personality and eventually it catches up with them I. E. Case in point a poor Marlon brando type. A guy who in his 20s and 30s to women was to die for. But once he past 40. And not a movie star or rich he better be into mongering. Otherwise he's SOL.
Not true in Colombia. It's a healthier environment so it's easier to be good looking here and take care of yourself. In the US to be that good looking you have to dedicate your whole life to it and make huge sacrifices. The big difference is in the food supply.
It is true that mostly he waits for girls to come to him, up to a point.
Man, that just sounds so tiresome. And if you're not all that attracted to them, is it worth the time, effort and money spent? I guess you get what you can get, and if you are getting something here in gringalandia you are doing better than me How much do you spend on these dates?
Myself. I tried OKCupid recently just to see what would happen, and it was a waste of time and energy, a total disaster, even though the site rated me in their 'attractive' group at age 46 (I do look mid-30s, while not really athletic I am fit and have a nice smile). Of course being 5 foot 7 takes me out of the picture for most decent gringas for online dating even if I was 21.
But meanwhile. I can go to Lima Peru and date and routinely bang regular women, 7 and 7. 5s in their early 20s to mid 30's. I let them know basically what I am all about, that I am not looking for commitment. But if they like me it doesn't matter, they are all over me.
The difference will always boggle my mind. And its not just about money- if I lived in Peru as a relatively poor man with only enough money to take my dates out to a middling restaurant and cinema, I could still get laid with decent women. Its about all the worsening damage negative factors like feminist media, materialism, decaying pop culture, and fast food, have inflicted on females within the 'more advanced and progressive' Western societies like the US. In countries like Colombia or Peru these factors have yet to advance so deeply to cause near the levels of damage to the hearts, minds and bodies of the more humble typical latina woman from these places, although the factors do exist and can probably be expected to also slowly increase over time, especially in the larger cities.
For now anyway, when in Lima I find by dating a secretary, as opposed to trying to say hook up with a successful female executive VP of some peruvian company, I am able to safely avoid most of these factors. But fast food and resulting fat chicas are increasing.
Sometimes what helps me is dating women I'm not all that attracted to. Easy to blow them off, and the more you do that, the more they want you.
That's half joking. When I'm dating a woman whom I know I won't be compatible with, I often go the near silent route, just letting them do all the talking. I'm not too good at putting forth a false front, so in essence I take the fifth.
I choose not to incriminate myself with sincere statements or opinions.
Ever notice how sometimes in bars, it's like those contests where everyone fights to be the last one with their hand remaining on a car? If you can maintain contact long enough, you win it?
Often in bars I've noticed guys drinking with women and catering to their egos until the wee hours. I'll admit that if I'm among a group of guys vying for a woman's attention over many drinks, I most often say fuck it and throw the towel in early on.
ThatGuy865
10-17-10, 02:16
Not true in Colombia. It's a healthier environment so it's easier to be good looking here and take care of yourself. In the US to be that good looking you have to dedicate your whole life to it and make huge sacrifices. The big difference is in the food supply.
It is true that mostly he waits for girls to come to him, up to a point.Its no harder in the USA to be healthy. You have that wrong. Its the reverse. Its just easier to be unhealthy. We have 10x the number of fast food places (no city in Colombia has close to the number of fast food as our metro cities). Everyone can afford a car (less than 50% in Colombia own a car). We have bigger supermarkets with cheap processed foods its a choice.
If you want to spend time cooking (and alot of americans don't). Its easy and cheap to buy pre made processed foods. They are readily available on every block. If you want to be healthy its a matter of choice. All supermarkets offer organic foods. We have gyms all over. Farmers markets. Supermarkets dedicated to nothing buy the best all natural foods like Whole foods. And each area has super markets which compete with Wholes foods.
The fact of the matter is America became so affluent. Alot of people just got lazy. We have remotes to do every thing. Remotes for air condition. Those self vacumming vacum cleaners. U-turn it on and it vacuum by itself. People don't walk any where and too many buy processed pre cooked food. Each one of these is a choice.
Even with our recession we still have a lower unemployment rate than Colombia, shit its still considered a 3rd world country, with rebels still running around jungles and can you say FARC. Dude get a grip on reality
Please its idiotic to compare the two on a whole. Stick to saying the women are cutier. At least you might have an argument. Country to Country is a no brainer. Shit you don't see all of latin america rushing their borders.
An article in The Palm Beach Post today about a cab driver in his 40s married to a Filipina woman for nine years after a divorce from his American wife. He says quote “For the first time I felt attractive and wanted, desired and it was awesome. This is the way people are supposed to feel. I never felt this way with American girls.” unquote.
He works 10-12 weeks in West Palm Beach yearly to make enough money, $3000 for a years existence in the jungle village of Sangahon in the southern end of Leyte Island where he lives in a tree house with his wife 13 years younger than him and their 3 children aged 2,5 and 6. He enjoys being the family elder to 40 nephews and nieces.
”I’m the head of a huge clan there. To the people in the jungle, I’m a hero.”
The link to the article with photos and readers comments are:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/cerabino-a-cabby-doesnt-own-much-but-in-976155.html
Montanaland
10-17-10, 23:44
An article in The Palm Beach Post today about a cab driver in his 40s married to a Filipina woman for nine years after a divorce from his American wife. He says quote “For the first time I felt attractive and wanted, desired and it was awesome. This is the way people are supposed to feel. I never felt this way with American girls.” unquote.
He works 10-12 weeks in West Palm Beach yearly to make enough money, $3000 for a years existence in the jungle village of Sangahon in the southern end of Leyte Island where he lives in a tree house with his wife 13 years younger than him and their 3 children aged 2,5 and 6. He enjoys being the family elder to 40 nephews and nieces.
”I’m the head of a huge clan there. To the people in the jungle, I’m a hero.”
The link to the article with photos and readers comments are:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/cerabino-a-cabby-doesnt-own-much-but-in-976155.htmlWe all agree he's doing the right thing by avoiding USA fembot/pigs. But this guy needs to at least get into some kind of high paying work like oil/rotational jobs in like places North Dakota. CDL jobs. Etc. Or get some kind of income stream set up via the computer.
ThatGuy865
10-18-10, 02:26
An article in The Palm Beach Post today about a cab driver in his 40s married to a Filipina woman for nine years after a divorce from his American wife. He says quote “For the first time I felt attractive and wanted, desired and it was awesome. This is the way people are supposed to feel. I never felt this way with American girls.” unquote.
He works 10-12 weeks in West Palm Beach yearly to make enough money, $3000 for a years existence in the jungle village of Sangahon in the southern end of Leyte Island where he lives in a tree house with his wife 13 years younger than him and their 3 children aged 2,5 and 6. He enjoys being the family elder to 40 nephews and nieces.
”I’m the head of a huge clan there. To the people in the jungle, I’m a hero.”
The link to the article with photos and readers comments are:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/cerabino-a-cabby-doesnt-own-much-but-in-976155.htmlI guess its cool if you want to live like tarzan. $3000 a year is poor even by their standards. Its amazing what lengths a man will go to for a piece of pussy.
That in itself tells you why AW act the way they do. A man is willing to give up all his creature comforts. Electricty. Indoor plumbing. Contact with the world. Just for a piece of pussy on a regular basis.
But that is a man with more than woman issues because he has checked out of society period. He is no different than the homeless on the street who can't deal with the day to day hustle of modern society. The only difference he has a companion.
On the downside, there are the typhoons, earthquakes and mudslides. And let's not forget those genital-attacking mountain lice, which are vanquished with kerosene.
"The first sentence I learned in Visayan was 'My testicles itch, '? " Hoag said.
There's no air conditioning and spotty electrical service, and the nearest Internet connection is a two-hour motorcycle ride awayIf thats heaven to you. I'll stay here in hell. Thank you very much.
Its no harder in the USA to be healthy.
If you want to be healthy its a matter of choice. All supermarkets offer organic foods. We have gyms all over. Farmers markets. Supermarkets dedicated to nothing buy the best all natural foods like Whole foods. And each area has super markets which compete with Wholes foods.
I agree, it is much easier to find a restaurant in the states that serves organic/health food. However, the food outside the states (mediterranean) it is just 1000 times better. The quality, variety, cooking, markets, freshness, etc. there is no comparison.
I guess its cool if you want to live like tarzan. $3000 a year is poor even by their standards. Its amazing what lengths a man will go to for a piece of pussy.
That was hilarious. I can look at it both ways though... Either this guy is totally nuts or the women in America are! lol
ThatGuy865
10-18-10, 12:12
I agree, it is much easier to find a restaurant in the states that serves organic/health food. However, the food outside the states (mediterranean) it is just 1000 times better. The quality, variety, cooking, markets, freshness, etc. there is no comparisonThere is no country who has more variety than the USA they might have different stuff but not more variety, we have stores with products from every part of the world. USA wins hands down
Cooking is a matter of opinion. I doubt if wolfgang puck, emril, bobby flan would say. Oh yeah we can't cook as well as them. We just don't know how to turn on a oven the way they do.
Markets. We win. We have Mega markets compared to any Mediterrian country. Now if you are talking liitle local markets. That depends on the city. NYC has a great market where you can buy fish as fresh as straight out of the ocean. In Ohio you can get a side of beef cut off the hoof. So in the U. S its your local that dictates faramer markets. It much larger than mediterrian countries. If you talking Idaho again. Its land locked and far from anywhere so it has to be shipped
As far as freshness now I might go along with that because in a lot of other countries they prefer to go to the market on a daily basis and the countries are smaller. We grow our oranges in florida. Obviously they family in Idaho has to wait for them to be shipped. Where in mediterrian countries they general eat only what is locally grown (hence why we have more variety. We have stuff shipped in from all over the world).
ThatGuy865
10-18-10, 15:28
Bango,
Even though I say Colombia is not as afluent as the USA and the USA has it beat in many ways. I do believe Colombia is a great choice as a place for one to live or retire. Americans in alot of ways are consumed with material things and with that comes self induced stress. Where in a lot of other countries while the people do not have as much. They are happier with what they have and as long as a place supplies the basic necessaity along with a few of the creature comforts. One can live a good life. (although that dude living like tarazan has taken it to the extreme). So In other words. Yes one can live a good life in Colombia.
I agree, it is much easier to find a restaurant in the states that serves organic/health food. However, the food outside the states (mediterranean) it is just 1000 times better. The quality, variety, cooking, markets, freshness, etc. there is no comparison.
I agree with you, food outside the U.S. is 10000000000 times better. I feel the difference in my body when I travel overseas.
U.S farm animals are injected with all kinds of drugs, antibiotics, growth hormones etc. Some U.S. milk contains Growth hormones. The Coke drinks you buy in the U.S contains Corn Syrup, the Coke you buy in Africa, Latin America, contains Cane sugar, a much better product than Corn syrup and so with all this junk in our food we wonder why Americans are so obese.
Have to say that after visiting America a few times on business I can add in a few comments of my own that you may like. Being european and watching a lot of american TV it is quite easy to get the idea that the majority of american girls are slim sexy types. Landing for the first time and actually getting out the plane and seeing the average american girls it is no wonder you guys complain. Im so glad that I can go back to the UK and not have to put up with these women. Totally amazed at thier attitudes and how they think that they can get away with it and sponge off of thier husbands. Depending on getting the poor suckers hooked and then bleeding them dry of both spirit and of money.
I wonder why you guys put up with it. I did have a few daubbles in the mongering when I was there but then again so glad that I dont live there ! Like Nevada you guys put up with paying silly money and then having the girl go through with so many dont do this dont do thats? Pugh ! like you know how many hours I worked to get the price of what you want to charge me for an hour? Yep and Ive to put up with crap ? Florida having to sit and wank myself off watching you model lingerie ? 7-11 and buy playboy ? What I cant get playboy as it upsets women ? why cause it gives guys an outlet to stop them chasing girls? Yep. Its the land of the emancuated indeed. Law busts and total draconian attitudes along with girls that think that they are worth all this high maintenance pish.
Nope dont bother with the yanks when Im out there now quite glad just to yank myself off and forget any interaction with an overweight and full of self importance breed of imbiciles.
Have to say that after visiting America a few times on business I can add in a few comments of my own that you may like. Being european and watching a lot of american TV it is quite easy to get the idea that the majority of american girls are slim sexy types. Landing for the first time and actually getting out the plane and seeing the average american girls it is no wonder you guys complain. I'm so glad that I can go back to the UK and not have to put up with these women. Totally amazed at thier attitudes and how they think that they can get away with it and sponge off of thier husbands. Depending on getting the poor suckers hooked and then bleeding them dry of both spirit and of money.
I wonder why you guys put up with it. I did have a few daubbles in the mongering when I was there but then again so glad that I don't live there! Like Nevada you guys put up with paying silly money and then having the girl go through with so many don't do this don't do thats? Pugh! Like you know how many hours I worked to get the price of what you want to charge me for an hour? Yep and I've to put up with crap? Florida having to sit and wank myself off watching you model lingerie? 7-11 and buy playboy? What I can't get playboy as it upsets women? Why cause it gives guys an outlet to stop them chasing girls? Yep. Its the land of the emancuated indeed. Law busts and total draconian attitudes along with girls that think that they are worth all this high maintenance pish.
Nope don't bother with the yanks when I'm out there now quite glad just to yank myself off and forget any interaction with an overweight and full of self importance breed of imbiciles.I think that the problem with American women is that they feel a sense of entitlement. They want to be equals to men (which is great, I think that most men would agree that the sexes should be equal).
At the same time, they feel that they're entitled to the advantages that they've enjoyed as women. There are a large number of women who still aspire to be stay-at-home wives who live off of their husband's earnings without working. Women still want to be pampered and showered with gifts and lavish dinners. They still want to receive alimony from men after divorces. They still want to maintain custody preference, and rake in large child-support payments after divorce.
In essence, they feel that they're entitled to more than men are entitled to, and it shows in many of their attitudes. It's like their entire dating philosophy consists of finding out how much they can get out of a relationship while putting in as little as possible, and sex is a major bargaining chip that they use to maintain that balance. This is why many of them see sex workers in such a negative light. It is a direct threat to their control of relationships. If men are able to pay for sex, women will lose some of their bargaining power, and will have to put more effort into relationships while not getting as many benefits.
Perhaps this view is cynical, but it's based on my past experiences with american women.
I'm so glad that I can go back to the UK and not have to put up with these women. Totally amazed at thier attitudes and how they think that they can get away with it and sponge off of thier husbands. Depending on getting the poor suckers hooked and then bleeding them dry of both spirit and of money.
IMHO, there's only one country on planet earth that has women that are worse than AW and that's Great Britain.
Australiasucks
10-19-10, 19:13
Have to say that after visiting America a few times on business I can add in a few comments of my own that you may like. Being european and watching a lot of american TV it is quite easy to get the idea that the majority of american girls are slim sexy types. Landing for the first time and actually getting out the plane and seeing the average american girls it is no wonder you guys complain. Im so glad that I can go back to the UK and not have to put up with these women. Totally amazed at thier attitudes and how they think that they can get away with it and sponge off of thier husbands. Depending on getting the poor suckers hooked and then bleeding them dry of both spirit and of money.
I wonder why you guys put up with it. I did have a few daubbles in the mongering when I was there but then again so glad that I dont live there ! Like Nevada you guys put up with paying silly money and then having the girl go through with so many dont do this dont do thats? Pugh ! like you know how many hours I worked to get the price of what you want to charge me for an hour? Yep and Ive to put up with crap ? Florida having to sit and wank myself off watching you model lingerie ? 7-11 and buy playboy ? What I cant get playboy as it upsets women ? why cause it gives guys an outlet to stop them chasing girls? Yep. Its the land of the emancuated indeed. Law busts and total draconian attitudes along with girls that think that they are worth all this high maintenance pish.
Nope dont bother with the yanks when Im out there now quite glad just to yank myself off and forget any interaction with an overweight and full of self importance breed of imbiciles.UK women are probably even worse than American women. The idea most American women are slim and sexy is Hollywood muckracking BS. I think Australia beats the US to a degree, its nothing compared to Latin America and Eastern Europe. I live in a big international city, and I meet women from all over, so as long as you got a job and a place, reasonably fit and clean, you will definitely find plenty of women. Even in America, the fit and clean struggle to get it on.
I have never been married. When I was younger, it made me a little depressed, but these days, at 40, I don't mind so much, especially since I work for a woman.
Never been harassed so much in my life. I always know that if the tables were turned, and if it were a white guy berating a Latin female like she does me, I'd be in deep shit.
But it may be a benefit in the long run. Truth be told, I haven't been in a lot of longterm relationships, but I think I understand marriage more by being in this work situation. It's fucking miserable. Working for a woman is like getting a vasectomy that prevents marriage.
I do think they're pretty good at interior decorating, though. I'll give them that.
A little disappointed I haven't had the chance to father a son. I'm sure daughters could be cool, too, but the truth is that most American mothers will poison their minds. Damn shame.
I have never been married. When I was younger, it made me a little depressed, but these days, at 40, I don't mind so much, especially since I work for a woman.
Never been harassed so much in my life. I always know that if the tables were turned, and if it were a white guy berating a Latin female like she does me, I'd be in deep shit.A woman who wants to succeed as a manager/professional in the US working world economy simply has to take on the exact opposite characteristics that make for an appealing female dating/love/sex partner. Sweet, happy, compliant, sensual, uncomplicated.
My work project manager seems to be a decent lady at heart, and is not fat or intrinsically ugly, and I get along fine with her professionally. But when she smiles the hardness built up from years trying to climb the corporate ladder shows in her face. She just has to be a bit of a battle-axe to be as successful as she is in her career in a pretty cutthroat environment. She is very well off financially due to her advancement within the company but I just can't imagine ever dating never mind ever ever being a husband to a woman like this but she does have a husband. I don't know him, I wonder if he mongers? Its hard to imagine he has a good married sex life.
Occasional travel to places where I can trade my gringo charm and accumulated financial resources for access to the delightful wet pussies of the poor uncomplicated unspoiled young chicas of latin america is much more appealing to dating any available AW professional career woman, and the best I can do at the moment.
Granted if I was a tall, high status, extroverted, very athletic and very attractive man which I am not I could certainly date and bang some of the better looking professional AW. But even if I was that man, I still don't see how I could be satisfied with these AW, I would always have to prefer the sweet simple unspoiled latin american chicas and what they offer in the bedroom.
What is the alternative in gringalandia? Dating AW +non-professional+ women? That also would have its issues, like probably an even deeper hit on my bank account than traveling and mongering for far less satisfaction. This group is the PeopleOfWalmart crowd, uggh!
In essence, they feel that they're entitled to more than men are entitled to, and it shows in many of their attitudes. It's like their entire dating philosophy consists of finding out how much they can get out of a relationship while putting in as little as possible, and sex is a major bargaining chip that they use to maintain that balance. This is why many of them see sex workers in such a negative light. It is a direct threat to their control of relationships. If men are able to pay for sex, women will lose some of their bargaining power, and will have to put more effort into relationships while not getting as many benefits.
Perhaps this view is cynical, but it's based on my past experiences with american women.Having been married to an American once, and now to an Eastern European, I'd say you hit the nail right on the head.
She used to call it P.O.P: The power of pussy.
AW dog is long dead. No point shooting it. It's widely accepted around the globe among the enlightened. Corpses are now bloated, rotting and smelling due to decay.
Even saying 'hello, how are you' is a waste of time. The dog can no longer wag her tail.
One word of caution though: When you meet young juicy pulsating pussies from foreign lands, make sure to allude to 'so called stunning AW with brain' !! Tell them all AW look like models you saw on TV soap opera from Hollywood or better. Be lavish in singing paeans of praise for AW. Tell them though we think AWs are the most beautiful and the best, we are considering you only because you have a sincere heart. AWs are a bit materialist for our taste. Never make the mistake of badmouthing AWs in front of foreign pussies.
For some reasons, foreign pussies like to hear that. They like us to be condescending. This has been my experience I wanted to share.
I do not go into 'why it's like that'. I am only interested in 'what is like what' and use it.
PS.
And if a foreign pussy has been to USA, ignore her. She is worse than AW. She has realized her worth. Her eyes are now opened and now she is a Mexican who wants Texas back.
She will treat you like no body.
AW dog is long dead. No point shooting it. It's widely accepted around the globe among the enlightened. Corpses are now bloated, rotting and smelling due to decay.
Even saying 'hello, how are you' is a waste of time. The dog can no longer wag her tail.
One word of caution though: When you meet young juicy pulsating pussies from foreign lands, make sure to allude to 'so called stunning AW with brain' !! Tell them all AW look like models you saw on TV soap opera from Hollywood or better. Be lavish in singing paeans of praise for AW. Tell them though we think AWs are the most beautiful and the best, we are considering you only because you have a sincere heart. AWs are a bit materialist for our taste. Never make the mistake of badmouthing AWs in front of foreign pussies.
For some reasons, foreign pussies like to hear that. They like us to be condescending. This has been my experience I wanted to share.
I do not go into 'why it's like that'. I am only interested in 'what is like what' and use it.
"A woman who wants to succeed as a manager/professional in the US working world economy simply has to take on the exact opposite characteristics that make for an appealing female dating/love/sex partner. Sweet, happy, compliant, sensual, uncomplicated.
My work project manager seems to be a decent lady at heart, and is not fat or intrinsically ugly, and I get along fine with her professionally. But when she smiles the hardness built up from years trying to climb the corporate ladder shows in her face. She just has to be a bit of a battle-axe to be as successful as she is in her career in a pretty cutthroat environment."
All I can say is I work as a civil servant and it's so much a cut-throat environment for women as it is a system that requires a certain quota of women to be in higher level positions. A woman in today's government has a fairly easy ticket from what I've seen.
Women in the workplace are by far the most political and insecure people I've worked with, both in the private and public sectors. They also pride themselves on manipulation and keeping secrets.
Their one convenient downfall is that they're sometime unable to contain their emotions, so you get to witness public outbursts occasionally that lessen their credibility. But unfortunately, they're still women with a big affirmative action push behind them, so it's still hard for them to get in trouble.
DJ FourMoney
10-29-10, 23:20
PS.
And if a foreign pussy has been to USA, ignore her. She is worse than AW. She has realized her worth. Her eyes are now opened and now she is a Mexican who wants Texas back.
She will treat you like no body.
I don't think that always happens. Remember you only hear or remember the worst, its easy to remember, its human nature. I can tell you for sure that their are plenty of immigrants and expats from Europe in America that almost completely reject our social structure.
What you forget is that many countries allow you to keep your citizenship. If worst comes to worst, you can go back to France, this was pointed out Micheal Moore's film Sicko.
If anything Foreign Women (in the US) are more honest and won't waste your time. If they don't find interesting and/or attractive, then they won't give you a fake phone number or their actual phone number and then threaten legal action when you actually call it.
In otherwords, most Foreign women are NOT copying the worst aspects of AW.
What most here are thinking of are the women becoming engulfed in our Capitalist Economy, then demanding the large SUV, oversize Home and lavish Vacations.
Which I find interesting, some people don't want others to experience the perts of our economy such as it is? If you married a Gold Digger, you ignored the signs, its your fault. Women don't turn into Gold Digging, Sexual Prudes overnight, you didn't see it.
A Mexicana who's been somewhat pursuing me for awhile, even after I expressed my preference for married women, suggested we take a trip together. She's offered to pick up half the costs of the hotel.
That's unusual. Maybe I'll go ahead and take the money from her and then set it on the dresser for her at the end of the weekend.
CherchezFemme
11-06-10, 01:01
OK, I tried contacting one, just one, ex-student via FB and she did not respond. I need to try it on others, not sure who though.
Been back in the States 10 days, and am already not getting a response from a girl who just moved here a month ago ( I met her back in Europe, I kind of know her family). We had talked about NYC and how I was going to show her everything and she was so excited and blablabla and now....nada. Oh well, she's not much to look at anyway but still would do her.
OK, I tried contacting one, just one, ex-student via FB and she did not respond. I need to try it on others, not sure who though.
Been back in the States 10 days, and am already not getting a response from a girl who just moved here a month ago (I met her back in Europe, I kind of know her family). We had talked about NYC and how I was going to show her everything and she was so excited and blablabla and now. Nada. Oh well, she's not much to look at anyway but still would do her.You are too naive, sorry.
Most likely she has already gotten 10-20 chumps(no offence, a joke) like you from the internet, promising a lot in exchange of her attention.
And in addition to that, after her arrival, the rumors about the "fresh" pussy has propagaded quickly, so now there is a line of guys in BMW, Mercedes and Lexuses has lined up.
This is what happens when a new pussy(even ugly ones) enters the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. You face a lot of competition for 1-2-3 holes in a piece of meat. This sucks, but that's the USA reality.
I know this for sure, I had posted a fake profile on a dating site, you have to see what kinda things men are offering! Also one my ex-girlfriend was shocked after she placed a profile on a dating site. She got offers from some rich people, asking her out, promising dinners, some NYC producers inviting her to their shows, etc. Some guys drove 100 miles to see her.
You are too naive, sorry.
Most likely she has already gotten 10-20 chumps(no offence, a joke) like you from the internet, promising a lot in exchange of her attention.
And in addition to that, after her arrival, the rumors about the "fresh" pussy has propagaded quickly, so now there is a line of guys in BMW, Mercedes and Lexuses has lined up.
This is what happens when a new pussy(even ugly ones) enters the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. You face a lot of competition for 1-2-3 holes in a piece of meat. This sucks, but that's the USA reality.
I know this for sure, I had posted a fake profile on a dating site, you have to see what kinda things men are offering! Also one my ex-girlfriend was shocked after she placed a profile on a dating site. She got offers from some rich people, asking her out, promising dinners, some NYC producers inviting her to their shows, etc. Some guys drove 100 miles to see her.
LOL I also posted a fake profile in China (DIA site) with a nice photo of a chick I had picked in Shanghai. That got over 30-40 responses a day! An oxford university professor, vice presidents of companies, real estate tycoons, doctors .. all responded. Lots of guys from UK USA Germany and some Turkish, Australians. No one from China itself. It was an eye opener.
Such was the case in China. I can only surmise what would happen if a hot chick posts on match-dot-com or any US website.
Watch the internet ads/banners for ANY American dating site. They always post a picture of the hot girl. They know there are no women. It's all just men becoming members and paying obscene money. So they target men.
I ignore all US sites completely. Going to a local grocery store and picking up MILFs is much much easier. For fresh off the boat chicks , try libraries of community colleges.
LOL I also posted a fake profile in China (DIA site) with a nice photo of a chick I had picked in Shanghai. That got over 30-40 responses a day! An oxford university professor, vice presidents of companies, real estate tycoons, doctors .. all responded. Lots of guys from UK USA Germany and some Turkish, Australians. No one from China itself. It was an eye opener.
Such was the case in China. I can only surmise what would happen if a hot chick posts on match-dot-com or any US website.
Watch the internet ads/banners for ANY American dating site. They always post a picture of the hot girl. They know there are no women. It's all just men becoming members and paying obscene money. So they target men.
I ignore all US sites completely. Going to a local grocery store and picking up MILFs is much much easier. For fresh off the boat chicks , try libraries of community colleges.
That whole dating website thing is really strange. I've known some really hot chicks that were into that scene. One of them was a hot P.R. chick with one of the the all-time top three nicest asses I have ever seen. No kids but real stuck up though. I believe females think they can order up the perfect man criteria wise when describing what they are looking for, and that is why they go that route.
DJ FourMoney
11-10-10, 15:05
That whole dating website thing is really strange. I've known some really hot chicks that were into that scene. One of them was a hot P.R. chick with one of the the all-time top three nicest asses I have ever seen. No kids but real stuck up though. I believe females think they can order up the perfect man criteria wise when describing what they are looking for, and that is why they go that route.
Actually its more complex than that.
Dating Web Sites equalize things for men, not for women really.
If you don't appear "successful" (Car, Job, Clothes) then your penalized. Then women parse that. Is the car a BMW or Benz, is the job high paying and are the clothes from a upscale retailer? If not, they marks off each and weigh that against how you look. The further you're away from Taye Diggs, Ricky Martin or Brad Pitt, you get put on the "Friend's Ladder". But that only happens in real time. On web sites they can filter out those easily, which is why lying is so effective for men.
I can't explain to Cherchez why failed with his Facebook Girl. Its likely she wasn't that into him but didn't want to hurt his feelings. Women know almost instantly if they are going to let you fuck them or not. At least I know, I've never been shocked when the panties drop, its expected, I get results. The only time I'm surprised is how quickly it happens, first date anybody?
Dating Web Sites equalize things for men, not for women really.
If you don't appear "successful" (Car, Job, Clothes) then your penalized. Then women parse that. Is the car a BMW or Benz, is the job high paying and are the clothes from a upscale retailer? If not, they marks off each and weigh that against how you look. The further you're away from Taye Diggs, Ricky Martin or Brad Pitt, you get put on the "Friend's Ladder". But that only happens in real time. On web sites they can filter out those easily, which is why lying is so effective for men...Excellent point! Dating websites and social networks can equalize the playing field for men.
-Helpmann :)
Gentleman Travel
11-10-10, 16:41
OK, I tried contacting one, just one, ex-student via FB and she did not respond. I need to try it on others, not sure who though.
Been back in the States 10 days, and am already not getting a response from a girl who just moved here a month ago ( I met her back in Europe, I kind of know her family). We had talked about NYC and how I was going to show her everything and she was so excited and blablabla and now....nada. Oh well, she's not much to look at anyway but still would do her.
A sample of "one, just one, ex-student" is meaningless on a dating site and even more meaningless on Facebook, just like striking out with one girl in a bar is. Maybe she was not looking for love, maybe you are not her type, maybe she doesn't check Facebook that often, maybe she is waiting for her date to show up... the possibilities are endless. It is the same on Mamba, a much more powerful dating for sex platform, you do not make just one contact and give up if she doesn't reciprocate.
The power of on-line dating (and social networking) is that you can make numerous low-effort contacts to smoke out a few leads amongst the hundreds (or thousands) of possibilities. Plus there is little emotional cost to putting yourself out there and getting rejected. Just move on to the next profile. But try moving in on younger women or former students/colleagues in a bar and either you will be emotionally exhausted after a few tries, or someone will complain to management or the police about harassment!
Women know almost instantly if they are going to let you fuck them or not. At least I know, I've never been shocked when the panties drop, its expected, I get results. The only time I'm surprised is how quickly it happens, first date anybody?
Another excellent point. Sometimes I feel my balls are well... My CRYSTAL BALLS.
CherchezFemme
11-10-10, 21:41
I don't think she's been hit on by many men. She is an engineer and works long hours and is very serious about her job. I don't think she's been in an environment yet where that can happen.
Two, she's not hot enough to attract a lot of attention and Three, she is not the flirty type at all.
Maybe I'm just being 2 negative with myself? Anyway I'll try once more.
But I know what you're trying to say.
You are too naive, sorry.
Most likely she has already gotten 10-20 chumps(no offence, a joke) like you from the internet, promising a lot in exchange of her attention.
And in addition to that, after her arrival, the rumors about the "fresh" pussy has propagaded quickly, so now there is a line of guys in BMW, Mercedes and Lexuses has lined up.
This is what happens when a new pussy(even ugly ones) enters the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. You face a lot of competition for 1-2-3 holes in a piece of meat. This sucks, but that's the USA reality.
I know this for sure, I had posted a fake profile on a dating site, you have to see what kinda things men are offering! Also one my ex-girlfriend was shocked after she placed a profile on a dating site. She got offers from some rich people, asking her out, promising dinners, some NYC producers inviting her to their shows, etc. Some guys drove 100 miles to see her.
CherchezFemme
11-10-10, 21:45
I ignore all US sites completely. Going to a local grocery store and picking up MILFs is much much easier. For fresh off the boat chicks , try libraries of community colleges.[/QUOTE]
-Re US sites: I want to ignore them but a) i've heard too many success stories to ignore them totally and b) i actually have talked to and gone on dates with girls i met online so it IS possible to get something out of it.
-I'd love to pick up a few MILFs but have never had any success
-Re comm. colleges, that's not a bad idea
CherchezFemme
11-10-10, 21:48
A sample of "one, just one, ex-student" is meaningless on a dating site and even more meaningless on Facebook, just like striking out with one girl in a bar is. !
I know man, I know one is meaningless. I wanted to tell you guys I tried it with one at least, now I have to do it with others.
I just feel weird doing it, like its wrong :)
A few of my ex-students who are still in HS have tried to friend me but I turn them down. Too young.
Re US sites: I want to ignore them but a) i've heard too many success stories to ignore them totally and b) i actually have talked to and gone on dates with girls i met online so it IS possible to get something out of it.
-I'd love to pick up a few MILFs but have never had any success
-Re comm. colleges, that's not a bad ideaJust curious, what is your age? I used to be interested in MILF's when was much younger, now in mid 30's, not interested in MILF's at all. I think MILFs also want much younger guys. I'm now planning to marry a girl, early 20's.
When I was in US, I tried to use a couple of USA dating sites just to see whats available. There are some women, but from what i had seen mostly fat and ugly to me, waste of time.
Colombian sites such as romancelatina and eastern European sites are much better, they have nice young girls who are in USA too.
There are also many summer students from Eastern Europe looking to stay in USA. many work in restaurants and theme parks.
DJ FourMoney
11-12-10, 17:50
A sample of "one, just one, ex-student" is meaningless on a dating site and even more meaningless on Facebook, just like striking out with one girl in a bar is. Maybe she was not looking for love, maybe you are not her type, maybe she doesn't check Facebook that often, maybe she is waiting for her date to show up... the possibilities are endless. It is the same on Mamba, a much more powerful dating for sex platform, you do not make just one contact and give up if she doesn't reciprocate.
The power of on-line dating (and social networking) is that you can make numerous low-effort contacts to smoke out a few leads amongst the hundreds (or thousands) of possibilities. Plus there is little emotional cost to putting yourself out there and getting rejected. Just move on to the next profile. But try moving in on younger women or former students/colleagues in a bar and either you will be emotionally exhausted after a few tries, or someone will complain to management or the police about harassment!
I agree, I never tried canvassing and usually picked out a few profiles I liked best and contacted those women, I would usually get back maybe one or two. For the sites I use, women find me and I reply if I find them attractive enough along with other factors.
I think I mentioned before, if you contact 100 profiles and get back 10 positive replies, that's about average in America.
DJ FourMoney
11-12-10, 20:04
Just curious, what is your age? I used to be interested in MILF's when was much younger, now in mid 30's, not interested in MILF's at all. I think MILFs also want much younger guys. I'm now planning to marry a girl, early 20's.
When I was in US, I tried to use a couple of USA dating sites just to see whats available. There are some women, but from what i had seen mostly fat and ugly to me, waste of time.
Colombian sites such as romancelatina and eastern European sites are much better, they have nice young girls who are in USA too.
There are also many summer students from Eastern Europe looking to stay in USA. many work in restaurants and theme parks.
Which MILF's want younger guys? In my experience they want somebody no older than 5-10 years than they are. So if your 40 like me, then you should be able to find a MILF about 28-30 who has taken care of herself (Not Fat).
You can find all sorts of desperate homely girls who have children but willing to do anything for a man. I think I told the story of the cashier I met at a truck stop in Ohio. If I wanted to screw her in the sleeper of my rig I could have that night. She was short, fat and not very cute. She had 2 unmanageable kids (bi-racial). I called her a few times because I was bored just to see what was up, it was a waste of my time.
Romance Latina seems to be legit and is the low cost DIY method of finding a girl in Colombia. I'm not knocked over by what I find on tour sites, but the women on RL are much better looking in most cases, younger as well.
US based web site are usually the trash heap unless your willing to compromise AND drop your standards. Not to mention most of the pussy you find is not worth driving or flying for.
Seems to me most of the FSU girls that find their way to the States end up on the east coast. There's a Ukrainian girl (23) who's on one of the IR forums I use and she's expressly looking for a Black Man to marry. She spent time down in Alabama going to school for semester. She's about a 8 on the old scale.
When they work at amusement parks, it seems again they are working at parks on the east coast. On a internet radio forum I listen too, there was a Ukrainian girl (25 now) that spent time in New Jersey working at Six Flag's Great Adventure. She's kind of cute, depends on your taste I guess, really thin and no tits. I don't think you'll find many "hotties" in America and I don't know if its worth to effort to track them down. Most of them still won't mind about a 10-15 age difference but usually met immature men around there age bracket. I guess it just depends on what they want. Elena's Models has a listing of just FSU Women in America. A few also show up on Lucky Lovers.
I'm not sure if its wise, but maybe the students might not "ruined" yet from spending time in America.
Gentleman Travel
11-15-10, 17:24
Which MILF's want younger guys? In my experience they want somebody no older than 5-10 years than they are. So if your 40 like me, then you should be able to find a MILF about 28-30 who has taken care of herself.
Yes, I think Goga is mixing up MILFs and Cougars.
Sure, probably most Cougars are MILFs, but it does not follow that most MILFs are cougars.
MILFs tend to be women who were hot in their younger days, went through the parenting treadmill, and have just emerged from marriage to discover they past their "best before date" and are not the hot commodity they once were. They are more realistic than their younger selves were and grateful for whatever attention they get. So they are relatively easy targets for uncomplicated sex. "Relatively" being the operative word - it is still hard to find ones that are both doable and not hung up on having a "relationship".
To increase the yield I target Russian/Ukrainian ex-pats in whatever city I am travelling. They are likely to be good looking and willing and more realistic about their market value. Plus they need to fuck to have a sense of self-worth as a woman. Also Russian girls perceive they have passed their "best before date" by age 30, which opens up a younger market than I would be able to tap with AW. I have some success with this strategy - not spectacular, but better than with any other plan.
Which MILF's want younger guys? In my experience they want somebody no older than 5-10 years than they are. So if your 40 like me, then you should be able to find a MILF about 28-30 who has taken care of herself (Not Fat).
You can find all sorts of desperate homely girls who have children but willing to do anything for a man.
Yes, I think Goga is mixing up MILFs and Cougars.
Sure, probably most Cougars are MILFs, but it does not follow that most MILFs are cougars.Yeah, I guess I mixed some terms a little bit.
What I was trying to say is that when you are younger like in your 20's you are more open to do older women such as MILFs and Cougars.
When your are older like 30's-40's+, I think you would be more interested to do younger women. At least for me its like this. Now in mid 30s' I can't imaging being with MILFs/Cougars.
It was in response to Cherchezfemme after he wrote that he would like to do MILFs. I was kinda surprised because I think before he used to write that he wanted to date his former students.
CherchezFemme
11-18-10, 19:54
It was in response to Cherchezfemme after he wrote that he would like to do MILFs. I was kinda surprised because I think before he used to write that he wanted to date his former students.
Thing is Goga, I love women in general. I want to fuck them ALL. Young, middle-aged, I don't care. When a woman turns me on, it doesn't matter her age. Also understand, the woman I've fantasized about the most in my life was a latina MILF, the mother of a friend I had when I was younger (12-18). I've also only been with 2 MILFs in my life, both times I went with them once (P4P) so I haven't gotten it out of my system; I don't think I will ever get over being turned on by older good-looking women. I really want to visit a provider here in nyc, a latina MILF with a stunning body and great reviews, but its 200/hr plus 100 for greek and that is a LOT of money.
But I also love younger women, and I want kids, and so I fantasize about fucking them too. Lately I imagine them pregnant, and then eating breakfast with them in the morning while they wear one of my t-shirts. Then I bang them again after breakfast in the kitchen lol. A real domestic scene. I see healthy young women, with their radiant skin, rosy glow and shiny hair and I want them to carry my seed.
CherchezFemme
11-18-10, 20:03
Some pics of this latina MILF provider I mentioned
Some pics of this latina MILF provider I mentionedI guess she is alright, although not my taste. Silicone tits?
Why don't you travel to South America? There you will find lots of good-looking MILFs for a fraction of the rediculous cost you have mentioned below.
You can even meet free MILFs there. When I was at a party in Colombia, there were 3 women in their late 30's and 40s', all were very horny and all over me, but I was interested in chicks 2 times younger:)
DJ FourMoney
11-21-10, 06:59
I guess she is alright, although not my taste. Silicone tits?
Why don't you travel to South America? There you will find lots of good-looking MILFs for a fraction of the rediculous cost you have mentioned below.
You can even meet free MILFs there. When I was at a party in Colombia, there were 3 women in their late 30's and 40s', all were very horny and all over me, but I was interested in chicks 2 times younger:)
The simple truth is this -
MILF's/Single Mothers are not popular anywhere. But less so in America because I believe and others have pointed out there is a shortage of attractive single women in America. They also have been empowered by feminism 2.0 and there's no longer a social stigma attached to being a single parent.
Men will date women with children but seldom will Women date men with children unless she's not interested in having children or can't have children.
That diffuses any debate about children with those women.
DH (Dickhead) has often expressed the advantages of Single Mothers and I agree. I haven't closed that door completely but I just rather start from a position of just being with my wife for a year or two, maybe travel a bit before we commit to having children.
After all I went to Europe with all four women being Single Mothers, not one of them was just a Single Women without children...
But as I've said before my next trip is pushing eastward where its much easier to find women without children, but more than willing to have children in the future.
I concur with going to South America. Especially if your a half-way decent looking White Guy. Latinas love them some Gringos.
That diffuses any debate about children with those women.
DH (Dickhead) has often expressed the advantages of Single Mothers and I agree. I haven't closed that door completely but I just rather start from a position of just being with my wife for a year or two, maybe travel a bit before we commit to having children.
After all I went to Europe with all four women being Single Mothers, not one of them was just a Single Women without children.It really depends. I have one friend, he lives in Moscow. He married a mother with a child. She is even older than him. He dated dozens of other girls and had lots of options, he is good looking, educated, makes good money but choose this one. So even though she is a single mother, she can be that good. I'm not sure how they are in America.
Bango Cheito
11-21-10, 18:11
The problem with being with a woman who has sombody else's child is almost never the woman or even the child, it's the babydaddy!
I don't think that always happens. Remember you only hear or remember the worst, its easy to remember, its human nature. I can tell you for sure that their are plenty of immigrants and expats from Europe in America that almost completely reject our social structure.
What you forget is that many countries allow you to keep your citizenship. If worst comes to worst, you can go back to France, this was pointed out Micheal Moore's film Sicko.
If anything Foreign Women (in the US) are more honest and won't waste your time. If they don't find interesting and/or attractive, then they won't give you a fake phone number or their actual phone number and then threaten legal action when you actually call it.
In otherwords, most Foreign women are NOT copying the worst aspects of AW.
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I'm fresh off a one month stint in Southern California after mongering in Latin America for three weeks and came to the following conclusion about women in America (domestic and foreign born): Women who come from places where if you don't have money you don't eat are materislistic as all get up. This includes America. In fact, AW had the highest material expecations of all of the women I met in the OC which incuded a Latina and two EEs. This fine (and rather typical OC) American chick that my buddy and his wife hooked me up with--USC undergrad degree who works in marketing-lost interest in me after fucking me slly sans condom for a weekend when she thought that I intended to live in my rental property that was not in the 949 area code.
The only women in America who are not materialistic are those that come from rich Socialist countries--Germany, Denmark, Sweeden, etc. Success and standard of living to these women is not measured by the size of the house, zeros in the bank acocunt, or horsepower of the car.
Just my two somme.
The simple truth is this -
MILF's/Single Mothers are not popular anywhere. But less so in America because I believe and others have pointed out there is a shortage of attractive single women in America. They also have been empowered by feminism 2.0 and there's no longer a social stigma attached to being a single parent.
Men will date women with children but seldom will Women date men with children unless she's not interested in having children or can't have children.
That diffuses any debate about children with those women.
DH (Dickhead) has often expressed the advantages of Single Mothers and I agree. I haven't closed that door completely but I just rather start from a position of just being with my wife for a year or two, maybe travel a bit before we commit to having children.
After all I went to Europe with all four women being Single Mothers, not one of them was just a Single Women without children...
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What's wrong with casually dating single moms? I dated a few and found them not too different than childless women. I think someone else's family only comes into play if the relationship starts to get serious.
I would never marry a woman with a kid in her house unless I had my own brats too and did the brady bunch thing or if I was older and she was young and pretty.
DJ FourMoney
11-23-10, 23:46
I'm fresh off a one month stint in Southern California after mongering in Latin America for three weeks and came to the following conclusion about women in America (domestic and foreign born): Women who come from places where if you don't have money you don't eat are materislistic as all get up. This includes America. In fact, AW had the highest material expecations of all of the women I met in the OC which incuded a Latina and two EEs. This fine (and rather typical OC) American chick that my buddy and his wife hooked me up with--USC undergrad degree who works in marketing-lost interest in me after fucking me slly sans condom for a weekend when she thought that I intended to live in my rental property that was not in the 949 area code.
The only women in America who are not materialistic are those that come from rich Socialist countries--Germany, Denmark, Sweeden, etc. Success and standard of living to these women is not measured by the size of the house, zeros in the bank acocunt, or horsepower of the car.
Just my two somme.
I concur, this is my experience as well.
They simply don't ask. I should say that they only ask to make sure you're not a career criminal or something. If you work some type of service sector job, so be it.
She kicked you to the curb after she found out you weren't going to be living in Laguna Beach? Typical...
I still say most women that move to America as adults are not looking to move upmarket once they get here, unless you were so far downmarket that you lied about it.
I still believe that some Men not wanting to admit it, are married to Gold Digging EE, Colombian, etc women. As I said they won't admit it, so they won't talk about it. They are ashamed.
DJ FourMoney
11-23-10, 23:51
What's wrong with casually dating single moms? I dated a few and found them not too different than childless women. I think someone else's family only comes into play if the relationship starts to get serious.
I would never marry a woman with a kid in her house unless I had my own brats too and did the brady bunch thing or if I was older and she was young and pretty.
Yep, only if she's younger (in Western Culture that's mid to late 20's) and pretty. If I'm playing Capt Save A Hoe and put on my cape, you better be good looking...
DJ FourMoney
11-23-10, 23:54
The problem with being with a woman who has sombody else's child is almost never the woman or even the child, it's the babydaddy!
To be honest that is a concern but has never come to fruition. Almost every woman I have known with children the father was no where in the child's life and in some cases never had seen them ever, ie: sperm donor.
The advantage: Her time is fairly limited, so at first no spending too much time besidse the in-out, in-out.
The disadvantage: She'll complain about her ex and/or expect you to assume a role of responsibility in her household, such as spending time with the kids or footing a bill or two.
What's wrong with casually dating single moms? I dated a few and found them not too different than childless women
Except with looser pussies, less money, less free time, and more screaming in the background, right?
I still say most women that move to America as adults are not looking to move upmarket once they get here
Study and research will convince you otherwise. It is the innately ambitious who emigrate, and those people remain relatively more ambitious than average after they do so. This partially explains why colonialism can sometimes be an effective economic strategy since ambitious people tend to be economically successful, especially when grouped together with little regulation.
Except with looser pussies, less money, less free time, and more screaming in the background, right?
Hi,
I didn't notice the looseness of the pussy;in the USA they often have more money than single women because they have a house and an alimony check courtesey of their ex. while abroad the man is expected to pay for eveything anyway so the relevancy of the mom's pocket book is largely irrelevant;the kids were only an issue as it related to giving her enough notice to find a sitter; and yes, I was annoyed at the lil bugger in the background.
My comments were primarily directed at the casual date...if one were to marry or play house with one it's a different story.
DD
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