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DJ FourMoney
03-10-11, 12:48
Kudos to you for getting your priorites right. I hope you are beginning to recognize the farce it is to think that in this "the world is flat era" that running abroad to find a woman is anything but asinine. Get you money right and the pusssy will flow no matter where you are unless you are ugly, fat, and have no personality.
Reality Check: The EU does not really hire Yanks to work in the IT sector; however, if you can get on with a multinational you can work wherever they have projects. Your best bet is to get a security clearance and do DOD IT work in Europe or wherever else. Those guys make good $$ and the jobs can't be outsourced to an Indian or EE for 20% of the cost of a Yank.
CheersActually they do. I've seen it. DHL is multi-national. Also Denmark's Positive List doesn't mention where you're coming from and I recently watched an episode of International House Hunters with a Danish guy that married an American Girl, had a daughter and they moved back to Denmark. She's working at a teacher.
What do you mean priorities? I needed to make money to afford a family, not so I can buy a C63 AMG though that would be nice. I also didn't do it to buy some posh apartment downtown or in West LA. If women didn't come near me when I had nothing (not completely true) then I don't want them either. That seems to be a problem you have, you never know if a woman is interested in you as a man or the scrilla. So you just default to paying for it, that might work for you, but it won't work for me.
The world isn't flat, not sure what that means but you're starting to sound like "ThatGuy". He always saying something similar, running overseas won't solve anything, never claimed it did. I still beg to differ and frankly I have to keep saying it, I want children and I don't want to have children with a 35 year old woman. Nor do I want skinny Asian chicks, so that doesn't leave a ton of choice, Latinas or Caucasians from Europe where I can find women 25-30.
And why would I want to work for DoD of all things? You're x-military you can handle that. I'd say fuck no somewhere along the way, no paycheck is worth my personal morals.
DJ FourMoney
03-10-11, 12:53
You have absoutely no clue and write from a disturbingly myopic perspective. Like the guy who reads a book on airplanes and claims to be an expert on aerodynamics. Funny and entertaining but dead wrong.
First: Machismo culture and boorish Slavic behaivor is what these people know. It's their dads, their uncles, and their brothers. Right or wrong it's what they are taught and what is imbued in them from a early age. I don't know why any woman would want to live in an Islamic Republic but plenty do and like the protection that they are afforded from living in such a system.
Biaatches lie:They yap to you that they are above their culture and like senstive and carring American men because that's what they think you want to hear. They tell their own men that Western men are pussies and cheap. Ever hears the term "real man" before. For those of us that lived in the FSU its a very common theme. These girls tell black guys on vacation that they luv black skin and they tell their own men that they could never imagine a monkey touching them. People lie and are hyprocrites and those Latins and EE's embody this the most.
Some folks really are outliers, but I rarely trust people that knock their own cultures and proclaim another better even if it's true.
You mean well, but traveling vacariously leads you to draw some really errant conclusions. Okay I'll bite. Mister World Traveler, X-Military, Contract Merchant whatever your doing now. What would you have me do?
Be some single bastard, chasing skirts, paying women to leave, forget having my own children, travel the world until I need new pages for my passport?
I'm all ears, most suggestions fall on deaf ears they are 180 degrees of what I want. My overall knowledge is fairly narrow, but I've also seen your post elsewhere on this site and its seems your very cynical, so how can I take any advice about women from you seriously?
DJ FourMoney
03-10-11, 12:59
If AW think you are a catch they will "find" the time for you.I doubt that seriously. I'm 40, 25 year olds don't want me. If you say money changes that, I don't want them.
Needle In the Haystack nonsense a good woman from America is hard to find and you would spend years looking for her. As you get older and older, and older. No thanks, the time is now to do something, so I'm doing it.
Very true: the unrealistic Expectation Level is a big factor.
You've experienced American Woman who have it; you go to poor countries becuz you have unrealistic expectations.
The Alpha Male gets the top women wherever he goes.
'dead ass ugly people' are everywhere. No one country has a monopoly on that. This is a very interesting comment that deserves further comment. There is something about the American mentality which hones an individual's sense of (unreasonable) entitlement. The sense that I can always obtain more than I currently have and that one must alway strive for more. It's what makes white males who earn 37K a year in a blue collar job vote for candidates that espouse tax policies that favor the monied and educated at ther own expense. It's what makes some on this board who are broke and have little going for them think that they are entiitled to anything more than a woman that it broke and has little going for her.
In most countries, people accept their lot in life. They know what they are and comfortable in their own shoes. When a former thai bar girl is asked to go to a club around Thong Lo she will likely decline because she knows that such locations are not her place. She does not think of what she can do to become high-soc, but rather looks upon her snobby countryman as being born deservedly lucky while she was not. It's what makes the 2 Billion Indians and Chinesse voluntarily submit to a stiffling caste system.
In our country, even the brokest most uneducated fool chersihes the fact that he can be someone. It's true; there is opportunity here, but not nearly as much as the media makes it out to be.
This eternal optimism is what makes us ALL think that we are entitled to more than what is righfully ours. And sadly this includes the type of women that we think we can get.
As the OP noted, the alpha male-successful, nice ride, nice home that he owns, good looking- gets play anywhere. One does not have to travel for pussy. Yes, AW view their pussies as a puritan present whereas many women in Africa, LA, and EE, SEA, see sex as little more than another bodily function and one does have to play a game to get in a AW's panties. But dating is a game everywhere on the planet.
Most AM are just mirror images of the AW that they so despise.
Chocha Monger
03-11-11, 01:57
I didn't think we were talking about American Women directly. However as I said, Men only let Women get away with stuff because of the power of pussy. But its actually a shortage of attractive, intelligent, available women.
That's the problem.
Money? I don't know had 60K and burned it up on a trip to Europe and the car and various other things. Lost the car, lost both jobs, don't have shhh, don't to my last $26 from my meager tax return. More money would just make me do more foolish stuff with it, which is fine, I don't hurt anybody, but as I have said before randomly fucking women for money is not a replacement for a loving relationship and children.
As I have said before, you are anti-Car, anti-Marriage and anti-Children, so in turn I don't think you can give me any sage advice is going to be extremely biased in those directions. Did you ever think that maybe marriage and reproduction is not for you? You pissed away 60K, lost your car and lost both your jobs. What would you do if you had a woman and some kids to support? Hot white and Latina women are not going to stick with a man with no money. Women marry because they want better not worse. An older guy with no money is not going be chosen by hot girls for marriage or reproduction in any part of the world. It's just not going to happen. Forget about it. At 40 yrs of age and broke you hardly have enough time to earn enough money to avoid a retirement on a cat food diet much less breed a woman 10 to 15 years your junior and support a family. Middle-aged guys have a tough time in the new global economy unless they have decades of experience in a highly specialized field that is difficult to staff. DD gave you some advice that you should probably consider. Perhaps, it is time to accept your lot in life. Stop running from your destiny like in The Adjustment Bureau. Everyone is not entitled to hot young pussy and a family.
If AW think you are a catch they will "find" the time for you.I think there is still a problem.
Even though it is like this, lets say I got an AW interested in me like I'm a "catch", don't you think it should be the other way around?
If I think she is a good one and if I want to, I could find time for her. I want to be able chose among a bunch of women, I do not want women (AW) to chose me among a bunch of competing guys.
Bango Cheito
03-11-11, 05:42
DJ you have to realize, the way the car is used in the USA counts for much of the cultural problems, not to mention people's sorry-ass physical state. It's not that easy to separate them.
I really think in the US it's more about money. In other parts of the world being good-looking counts for more. But who knows. I plan on going back to NYC good-looking (and broke) in June for a few weeks, let's see what pops.
Some friend of mine in NYC somebody wanted to insult her they called her a "groupie to a broke music manager". Note the "broke" in the statement. The implication is a man with money DESERVES NO PUSSY. I was kinda shocked by it, now that I no longer live in that culture, it was like a slap in the face to me. But that's the reality of the culture.
Here in Colombia it's the reverse of what you might expect. I will tell you know that I'm going on 3 years here, I have it absolutely statiscially proven, the richer girls here are more after money, with most of the girls from the poorer neighborhoods. They will NOT give it up for you unless you are physically very easy on the eyes, this is the most aesthetically oriented place you can imagine. There are exceptions but they are few and far between.
Did you ever think that maybe marriage and reproduction is not for you? Perhaps, it is time to accept your lot in life. Stop running from your destiny like in The Adjustment Bureau. Everyone is not entitled to hot young pussy and a family.So true. To be honest I wouldn't be able to deal with all the BS some guys go through with relationships and marriage. I think that is totally obvious to women. On the other hand I wouldn't want to be classified as a guy who can deal with all the BS. That doesn't appeal to me either. I disliked it when women in my past were trying to size me up and figure out what their limits / potential was. It's just plain gross and not my way of living.
No need to accept defeat or look at yourself as a loser. Not true. I know many men in my family environment that have been winners in life from society's perspective but in reality they LOST OUT big time when you look at the big picture.
The only crime is the hoops we need to go through to get a piece if it doesn't come naturally and the harsh reality of our puritan culture. Not to mention global economy woes gay sex STDs social stigma etc. No wonder everybody wants a winner in the dating game. You can gain a lot of security and relief of stress by finding the right mate.
DJ FourMoney
03-11-11, 10:49
Did you ever think that maybe marriage and reproduction is not for you? You pissed away 60K, lost your car and lost both your jobs. What would you do if you had a woman and some kids to support? Hot white and Latina women are not going to stick with a man with no money. Women marry because they want better not worse. An older guy with no money is not going be chosen by hot girls for marriage or reproduction in any part of the world. It's just not going to happen. Forget about it. At 40 yrs of age and broke you hardly have enough time to earn enough money to avoid a retirement on a cat food diet much less breed a woman 10 to 15 years your junior and support a family. Middle-aged guys have a tough time in the new global economy unless they have decades of experience in a highly specialized field that is difficult to staff. DD gave you some advice that you should probably consider. Perhaps, it is time to accept your lot in life. Stop running from your destiny like in The Adjustment Bureau. Everyone is not entitled to hot young pussy and a family.I spend 60K cause I wanted too, I could and I did, no regrets. If I had a family to support I would have 90% of that money still, that's the difference.
I didn't say I was entitled to anything. I made a career change in time for retirement which is basically not a concern at the moment, if I have to live off SS and it will be here so be it but I seriously doubt it.
Misery loves company, if you're not happy, why allow somebody else? That's your problem, you hated your life in NYC, you left it for 2nd tier economy in Colombia. For you that might be okay, but you still didn't address my issues with you handing out advice. Would I ask you what car to buy if I already knew you thought cars were pointless vessels keeping people from connecting with each other? No, just like I wouldn't ask you about Marriage (you're divorced) or children (you don't have any and could care less about them).
I am not some old guy, you have no idea what I look like, I constantly pass for mid 20's, I am not overweight, nor ugly. If I listen to you, I would think I have no chance at all, but I don't think that is the case. I could have chosen a woman that at the time was 6 years younger with two sons and was willing to have a third because she wanted (like most women do) a daughter. I didn't want to be an instant father, that's my choice.
There was a 42 yr old woman that was childless and wanted to have children. Well, I'm not ready, even if I had it to fork over a few thou for IVF because its much harder to have your first child at that point, than it would have been 15-16 years ago. Plus she hung onto her last relationship too long.
So here in America, my effective age range is mid to late 30's. That's not based on looks, its based on a number, my age. Woman 25-28 are still focused on career options and generally not interested. I also believe the US is much more of a crap shoot and too much of a compromise. I chatted up a girl on the bus about. 4-5 months ago, still don't know why I didn't get her information, but a very attractive Latina, I doubt she was much more than 22-23.
A friend of mine recently (about a year ago) married a woman from Ukraine. He's Black. 38 and she's obviously White and 26. They are expecting their first child as well. He makes decent money, nothing specular and it took him 3 separate tours to find her. I am just hoping it doesn't take 3 trips.
So I know it can be done. As long as I keep my expectations in-check I'll be fine. Finding an attractive Slavic girl is a given, what you want to know is what is inside their head.
I don't have to accept anything and I don't have a destiny.
DJ FourMoney
03-11-11, 10:59
So true. To be honest I wouldn't be able to deal with all the BS some guys go through with relationships and marriage. I think that is totally obvious to women. On the other hand I wouldn't want to be classified as a guy who can deal with all the BS. That doesn't appeal to me either. I disliked it when women in my past were trying to size me up and figure out what their limits / potential was. It's just plain gross and not my way of living.
No need to accept defeat or look at yourself as a loser. Not true. I know many men in my family environment that have been winners in life from society's perspective but in reality they LOST OUT big time when you look at the big picture.
The only crime is the hoops we need to go through to get a piece if it doesn't come naturally and the harsh reality of our puritan culture. Not to mention global economy woes gay sex STDs social stigma etc. No wonder everybody wants a winner in the dating game. You can gain a lot of security and relief of stress by finding the right mate. 100, I don't like drama. But American Women like drama, even when they say they don't. I've ended every relationship but one. That was based on internet communications though and could happen to anybody, not just me.
My lack of success is based more on me and what I won't accept. At times I have accepted single mothers and fat women. It was just a focus of mine until later in life. Sure I like companionship like any human being does, I found my interest keep me plenty busy though. I've lost a few chances here and there. I have accepted those loses, learned and moved on.
Being married does not have to mean accepting things you don't like, on the contrary it means accepting another person's faults. If those faults don't really concern you, then everything will be fine. If 50-70% of marriages fail, that still means 30-50% don't fail. So its really a half empty or half full scenario.
However K-1 marriages based on what information is available have a 20% failure rate. It could be higher, it could be lower, nobody is really keeping track of this, its gleaned from Labor and State Dept data.
DJ FourMoney
03-11-11, 11:12
DJ you have to realize, the way the car is used in the USA counts for much of the cultural problems, not to mention people's sorry-ass physical state. It's not that easy to separate them.
I really think in the US it's more about money. In other parts of the world being good-looking counts for more. But who knows. I plan on going back to NYC good-looking (and broke) in June for a few weeks, let's see what pops.
Some friend of mine in NYC somebody wanted to insult her they called her a "groupie to a broke music manager". Note the "broke" in the statement. The implication is a man with money DESERVES NO PUSSY. I was kinda shocked by it, now that I no longer live in that culture, it was like a slap in the face to me. But that's the reality of the culture.
Here in Colombia it's the reverse of what you might expect. I will tell you know that I'm going on 3 years here, I have it absolutely statiscially proven, the richer girls here are more after money, with most of the girls from the poorer neighborhoods. They will NOT give it up for you unless you are physically very easy on the eyes, this is the most aesthetically oriented place you can imagine. There are exceptions but they are few and far between. Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.
So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.
CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody.
Chocha Monger
03-11-11, 15:58
Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.
So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.
CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody. DJ,
I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman.
DJ,
I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman. Bingo you hit it on the nail CM!
ThatGuy865
03-12-11, 01:39
I choose IT because its one of the few careers that don't require a college degree and requires English in many cases. I was already well versed in computers so it just made sense and for my meager investment of $70 at a local occupational center I will get enough information to pass not only the CompTIA A+ but the Network + as well in 9 weeks! The class across the street (Jr College) takes an entire semester and you'll only get enough info for A+. My instructor had run his own computer business since the 5. 25 floppy days.
I am on the right track, I just need some experience and I can gain that at home while I work locally and search for my bride online and make trips abroad as needed. By the time I have 2-3 years of experience I can start applying for jobs with the UN in Geneva, NATO in Brussels or with international companies like DHL who currently has opening in IT as I write this, as well as the two places I just mentioned, don't believe me? Have a look at their job boards. I'd hate to burst your bubble. But now more than ever. A degree is necessary for any IT position. Sure there are people who work from experience alone. Just like there are HS players who make the NBA. Thats about the chances you have of finding an IT without REAL job experience and no degree. Not some part time fixing the neighbors computers. Or I networked the churches system down the street crap. Every HS kid is doing that these days.
For Multi National companies you will be up against all those individuals who have been layoff because of outsourcing. With Degree's and certifications. Because its cheaper to outsource and. And most companies that don't outsource. Import H1B's from India and soon China.
So you have big time competition. And thats not even mentioning those top college grads who like you. Also did part time work. . But also got a degree.
Very few companies hire non specialist who need no type of supervision or guidance and send them overseas to work.
I'm not saying don't try. I'm just saying be realistic in your projections. Yeah you might get a job in the IT field. Which would be hard enough. But to realistically think your 1st full time job would send you overseas. Is very optimistic.
Bango Cheito
03-12-11, 04:52
Sure I understand how its used in cultural terms, its used as measure to size up several things from economics, social and cultural norms. If you own a lowered sport compact that can be deemed as a guy that lacks maturity. If you own a BMW, it could me you have attained a level of success, depending on model. But the 3 series is often regarded as the car to have for mid-level management or up-and-coming white collar workers.
So yes I know how it works, but I like mechanical things, especially cars and I enjoy racing, not only myself but watching it, attending events, whatever. As I said you likely don't understand so I can't really explain it in terms you might understand it in and its largely foreign to most NYC dwellers as well.
CM you view your sex life from a position of a formerly overweight person, as you have often mention needing to loose weight. Then you transpose it on top of my live, I don't think that's fair. I like White Women and not every White Girl is "Down For The Brown", so that limits my pool and selection. It still hasn't been proven to me that Latinas especially from South America like Black Men beyond the P4P market and that's a bit hard to tell on this forum. That is why I need to investigate South America, in Europe I already know where to be Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Germany. I do know some Slavic women like Black and not the type of women that DD has been running into which I assume is the model type. I've been contacted by several Slavic women on various sites but I haven't returned those messages because of my financial problems at the moment. So I know its possible to find somebody. The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.
And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that.
DJ FourMoney
03-12-11, 08:02
Bingo you hit it on the nail CM!While your doing hand stands, I dabble in P4P. I did so in Germany with the help of this web site, I do so when I can afford it down in Mexico due to this web site.
Being single does not mean begging other single women for it by taking them out and expecting them to put out by the 3rd date.
Instead of dealing with that, I go the P4P route because what I ultimately want is sex, so I BELONG HERE just as much as you do.
In the end however, I have my "defenders" on this site and I'm not the only one. The LTR forum doesn't get much traffic but it does get used.
DJ FourMoney
03-12-11, 08:06
The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.
And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that. I guess that would be appliance users you're talking about. I react with many people on the road. Usually people that own the same car I did, since only 30, 000 were built from 2003 to 2005. I connect with other "car guys" at weekly events like "Cars and Coffee" or another spot where normal types like me get to bump elbows and trade stories with guys that are successful and like to show it off it bit by buying exotic Italian sports cars.
Buses are awful silent as well, I've been taking the bus on a regular basis since the last time I drove my Protetge 5 on June 25, 2009. In fact so is the Red Line (subway) , not much is being said and people keep to themselves so its not just cars are to blame.
DJ FourMoney
03-12-11, 08:09
DJ,
I think you're mixing up Bango and I, probably because I did not post for almost a year. Anyway, that's not important. You do realize that you're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman. As you said it might be Bango, but LTR is of interest to me and to others that use and view this thread. There other websites like Relationshit and No Marriage and I belong to those because I understand that Men in America are under fire.
But I have every right to be here. I don't expect either of you to have answers most of you come from failed relationships to start with and getting only your side of the story. I give you the benefit of the doubt because I understand how AW can be.
DJ FourMoney
03-12-11, 08:44
I'd hate to burst your bubble. But now more than ever. A degree is necessary for any IT position. Sure there are people who work from experience alone. Just like there are HS players who make the NBA. Thats about the chances you have of finding an IT without REAL job experience and no degree. Not some part time fixing the neighbors computers. Or I networked the churches system down the street crap. Every HS kid is doing that these days.
For Multi National companies you will be up against all those individuals who have been layoff because of outsourcing. With Degree's and certifications. Because its cheaper to outsource and. And most companies that don't outsource. Import H1B's from India and soon China.
So you have big time competition. And thats not even mentioning those top college grads who like you. Also did part time work. . But also got a degree.
Very few companies hire non specialist who need no type of supervision or guidance and send them overseas to work.
I'm not saying don't try. I'm just saying be realistic in your projections. Yeah you might get a job in the IT field. Which would be hard enough. But to realistically think your 1st full time job would send you overseas. Is very optimistic. WRONG.
Several Students out my instructors class have gotten jobs with Citibank, Dell and HP / Compaq right out of school they come into the class to recruit. There are several jobs I have found on Dice. Com that strictly list "A+ is preferred". To gain "experience" I have already considered donating my talent and time to a non-profit.
Did I say somewhere my first IT job would be overseas? Stop putting words into my mouth or get your reading glasses out and read my post again. I never said straight out of school I would get a IT job in Europe or anywhere for that matter. However stranger things have happen and like I said my instructor is a savvy guy.
Also you make it sound as though IT is crowded, its not its still considered "Geek" work and "uncool". Not every dude is going to be the founders of Google or the founder (s) of Facebook, My Space, etc. Women like them and Bill Gates because they have money.
DD is saying Money Solves everything, when I come from a perspective that says "More Money, More Problems"
Back to your rant about Americans not being hired in the EU. Just to let you know I have seen the same handful of jobs open for DHL in the Czech Republic for almost a year. Seeking NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS, which would cover all the Anglo-Saxon countries and I come from one. The United States.
Those jobs are still open, I wonder why Brits aren't beating a path to Prague?
I would develop some experience locally I never said I would go fresh out of school and apply for jobs overseas, but just because I have blocked you and you seem to chase me around this thread, I might look into it in-spite of you.
Going into A+, I already know 70% and have built my own PC's before including the HTPC I use every single day. But why would I go into a $240 test unprepared, so I'm taking this class for $70 and get a discount on both 701 and 702 test. All 50 of his students from the previous 9 weeks all have A+ CompTIA certificates. 8 of them have Network + without having to take an additional class.
Don't underestimate me, for $70 I'm getting enough info for not only A+, but Network +, MS Help Desk and Security +, which the instructor just took and passed himself.
He produces quality students and companies know that. It seems people like you are butt hurt that you spent thousands of dollars on degrees when people taking classes at Trade School can get those same jobs. Sorry but almost every Kid in his Saturday class is a "Gamer", talk constantly about Call of Duty 4 and Diablo 2, they aren't setting up networks for the local Church cause they don't know how and they ignore the instructor. My homie lays cable for networks and he didn't go to college either. Going to university doesn't mean you're best prepared for a job. Seems to me people that didn't go to college are considered loose cannons by some companies and harder to control, which is likely why they might pick the in-debt college student over the trade school graduate.
ThatGuy865
03-12-11, 16:59
WRONG.My point was not that you could or could not work if the end goal is to work overseas. It was the length of time it is going to take before the likely hood of it being possible / or happening will be years down the road.
So are you going to sit around. Waiting for that time before you again seek to have a relationship with a woman. If you start working full time. As a new employee you probably won't get enough vacation time, usually only 2wks, to have any decent relationship with a women overseas.
You will be older and the world (and womens attitudes) are changing rapidly, what might be available now. Maybe a totally different situation. 10 yrs ago Brazil and Thailand. Were dirt cheap destinations. Now look. No more. And the women's attitude in both have changed.
With the internet and women's organizations. Women's attitude's around the world are going to become closer to the AW. Egypt the women are demanding more rights, and to be written in their new constitution. This would have been unheard of 10 years ago in a Middle eastern country.
I'm just saying I'd keep looking with AW for what you want. Ok, if you don't find her. What have you lost. But what if she is there. And you have the opportunity. But you don't. Only because you have closed yourself off to AW and therefore you miss opportunities. Thats all I'm pointing. Out Keep looking while you put your plan in motion. There are over 30 million single women in america. To say there isn't a woman that meets your needs would suggest one has to look at their own self then to see If they have realistic criteria.
In fact you are in fact acting in the same manner as the AW you so despise. You have set your standard based on a certain criteria. And unwilling to compromise. But yet the woman are fucked up because they have criteria that you don't meet for quite a few AW. (like a good paying job, not living with parents showing responsibility and independence).
I mean why are they screwed up. But your view is not?
Bango Cheito
03-12-11, 20:30
That's the big issue isn't it. What's the best way to get laid. With money, with game, or with just plain good looks. I used to think exactly like DD (or like Jackson) that money is the way to do it, hands down. Now I'm not so sure, I see plusses and minuses to every aspect. I think it depends on specifically what your goals are as far as "getting laid". Some people want a different girl every day, some don't want so much variety but want a lot of kink and experimentation, some want more romance than others etc.
I also think the line between "good girls" and "bad girls" is bullshit. In a perfect world they'd ALL be bad. Women are naturally actually HORNIER than men, but society puts a lot of pressure on them to repress their sexuality. But given the right bunch of circumstances, good girls turn bad real fucking fast and viceversa.
My friends here in Bogota and I debate this shit on a daily basis and what's more we are scientifically exploring all the options to see what actually works best. .
The only thing I can say is, don't come down here expecting to find"true love", even IF you think you know the culture, much less if you don't at all. Colombia is an awesome country for P4P. I strongly recommend people who visit here leave it at that.
Although a few could be different, based on my experiences I've learned never to trust in the concept of any of these better-looking south american girls being faithful or honest. During my numerous stays in Colombia and Peru I've been with too many innocent seeming girls "committed to" unknowing boyfriends local or foreign who banged me for money (while incidentally usually seemed to enjoy the act as much as I did and were happy to repeat, and text me the "cuando vienes" when I am far away).
Emotionally like DJ4M I love the idea of having a faithful and lovely life companion by my side. But add to the above the reality of the ongoing decline in the value of the dollar and its likely eventual complete collapse, and the result is, even if I happened to fall in love with a lovely Colombiana or Peruana that I really trusted, I consider the idea of me importing her to be my wife with the idea that I can offer her a better life in the US long-term than what she has a total non-starter and bad bad idea, even as a very experienced technology worker taking home an income in the top 10% of the current US salary range.
Chocha Monger
03-12-11, 21:22
As you said it might be Bango, but LTR is of interest to me and to others that use and view this thread. There other websites like Relationshit and No Marriage and I belong to those because I understand that Men in America are under fire.
But I have every right to be here. I don't expect either of you to have answers most of you come from failed relationships to start with and getting only your side of the story. I give you the benefit of the doubt because I understand how AW can be. For the record, because the album is too motherfucking long, everyone has "failed relationships" unless they marry the first person they fuck and remain married to that person until they die period! The only other exception is if you're like That Asshole, the monger who said that he never had a girlfriend in his life, and paid for each and every piece of ass you ever got. Otherwise if you ever had a girlfriend and broke up then the relationship failed. That means pretty much everyone has failed relationships in the West.
Also, some of us have had girlfriends for longer than most marriages last. I have dated women for years that I decided to let go because they wanted marriage. In fact, the last one I let go married another guy and in less than a year the marriage came to a violent end. I think I made the right decision. I also have a very attractive college educated girl running my business and making monthly desposits into my account. I love pussy but I love it even more when it pays me. I could marry and give up strange pussy anytime I choose. However, I don't see any compelling reason for doing so.
Anyway, I'm getting what I want out of life there is no need for static. Other young cats with money like DD and Warbucks tried to give you advice on how succeed but you don't want it. So, just do you man. Live your life. I wouldn't comment on your shit.
The problem I have with the car is that it keeps people aparte and breeds isolation and alienation.
And no, I would say on the average that South American women STRONGLY do not prefer black men, sorry to say. Maybe in Brazil it would be the only place that would be the exception to that. Spoken like a true non South American Woman.
Women like men. (except in North America). I personally know more than a handful of black men married to S. A. Women. Mostly professional university educated women. A number of these guys still live in S. A.
Spoken like a true non South American Woman.
Women like men. (except in North America). I personally know more than a handful of black men married to S. A. Women. Mostly professional university educated women. A number of these guys still live in S. A. I have to go with bango on this one. Around 2 years ago I met a really attractive peruvian black girl online. When I arrived to Lima we met and all went very well. However I was amazed how quickly sweet peruvian people turned sour when we were walking hand in hand. I've never gotten so many shady looks in my life. She was hot and I was totally into it but it did come at a price.
Secretly latin girls have asked me with a disgusted face if I've ever slept with black woman. Taxi drivers have done the same thing.
* I helped out a fellow monger in Lima who happened to be african american. We are both from NYC so we hit it off very well. We did the chongos and a few other places and people were giving us shady looks or smirking. That doesn't happen when I am alone. It really affected me because I felt so much pain for this guy. Even worse was knowing it was coming from people I considered to be nice. It was ugly to see.
Latin people like to disassociate themselves from any sort of african heritage they might have. Most try to align themselves with their spanish roots.
I personally visit SA for the moreo / inigenas culture. Two cultures that are severely marginalized in latin america.
IMHO there is no flavor or vibe without these races in SA. It is them who make SA interesting.
Same ol same ol. Those with identity issues need to make up for it through negativity.
I'd say there are better places for african american men. If you brake the mold and succeed all the power to you. These days I try to spend time where I am appreciated not somewhere I have to keep my guard up. Life is too short.
LittleTruths
03-13-11, 00:14
it would be way too much of a generalization to state that "south american chicas prefer white / black", because you know, a "south american" can be a lot of things; ranging from pitch-black bahiana to a mulata from rio to a javanese or indostaanse from suriname or guyane to a trigueña from santa cruz de la sierra and so on and on all the way 'till you hit the blonde of german descent you see here and there in porto alegre or buenos aires.
as a rule of thumb tho, i would agree that women everywhere tend to prefer fairer skin tones than their own, unless of course they are as white as it gets to start off with. there is plenty of exceptions tho, and much is also up to personal tastes so one can never tell, but yeah; if getting yourself some white tail is what you aim for dj4m, i'd say your best bet would be to head for ee / fsu countries. in those places you would be some kind of novelty and everybody knows that out-of-towners always have extra pussy-points anywhere at a certain level.
being black in latin america is more something that relates you to being of a poorer heritage, and there is plenty of blacks around anyways so you're nothing strange.
fairer skin-toned latinas are, most often than not, quite racist in my experience. dd is right to say that these beeatches lie a lot so you can't rely on a woman's word, but even then all you need to figure it out is to pay attention to what they say indirectly and notice its implications.
for instance, in latin america they have maybe 20 different terms to identify different mixes of race and the resulting rainbow of skin-color / hair quality combinations. what does that tell us, that they don't pay attention to such things or that it doesn't matter to them? lol!
in some places like cuba they refer to the typical african hair-type as "malo", which means "bad". what does that tell you?
once in south africa i 've heard some black guys making fun of a colored one by saying that he was "half white and half black, but the white half was his lower half, while the black was the upper". everybody seemed to get it straight and laughed wholeheartedly while it just flew over my head, so i asked my (black) chick what was so funny about that? she told me something along the lines of "white downstairs, black upstairs; small dick, no brain!"
interestingly enough, some days later i asked her whether she regarded herself as belonging to a race of idiots (i am latin btw) and sure thing she replied "of course not!", so i called her out on the funny half-white / half-black joke of hers and her peers from the days before and needless to say she no longer knew what to run her beak about so i've had her running it over my dick instead that's better.
but enough of this.
also, i regard the idea of money bringing chicks as rubbish.
money won't bring you any more chicks than you're getting already, it will only bring you more leeches and vultures, just the same way better looks bring you shallow materialistic beeatches.
if you got money and / or looks you become a commodity or a toy in the view of a woman, so if casual meaningless nuts-busting is what really does it for you then alright, be happy. but when you mean something deeper you will have to take charge, get some game and get it going so that you can steer yourself towards wherever it is that you want to go. game is free and can be learned / improved by anyone quickly with a bit of dedication.
back on topic, as unbelievable as it might sound to you usa guys, aw have a reputation for being among the easiest lays in the whole motherfuckin' world, along with aussies. like unreally-easy. but then again, this is from the point of view of the 'round 30 years old foreigner with decent looks, mildly interesting character and proper lenguage skills. no nice ride and no house owning needed.
bless
DJ,
You're on a monger forum when you're seeking a wife? The advice and information here is primarily oriented to finding women and fucking them at the lowest financial risk to men. Therefore you will find that it is "anti-marriage." There ain't no love in this shit. If you seriously want a wife you should participate in a forum of like minded men. Sex tourism and wife hunting do not mix. Don't be a sex tourist or associate with them if you're seeking to commit to one woman. It does not have to be like that.
I have a friend in FSU. He got married last fall. Now his wife is pregnant. The guy still fucks chicks like for $5-$10 in his car or the apartment I rent all the time. His sex life did not change at all after marriage.
I guess this kinda lifestyle is unacceptable or rather impossible in USA where people got to commit to only one way. Single / dating or married.
But I like the idea when you can have best of both worlds. Nice family life with a loving wife (BTW some may have several wives there) and whoring around whenever you feel like doing that. Don't all men would like this kind of lifestyle?
I.
For Multi National companies you will be up against all those individuals who have been layoff because of outsourcing. With Degree's and certifications. Because its cheaper to outsource and. And most companies that don't outsource. Import H1B's from India and soon China.
So you have big time competition. And thats not even mentioning those top college grads who like you. Also did part time work. . But also got a degree.
Very few companies hire non specialist who need no type of supervision or guidance and send them overseas to work.I agree, IT now is really hard field. In addition to outsourcing Indians, there are also lots of talented young IT / programmers in Eastern Europe. How a non college graduate beginner programmer in his 40s could compete with them I have no idea. Of course anything is possible, but it seems to be a hard way.
If I were D. J. I would go into an own online business. Of course there is a lot of competition too, but it is very realistic to make some money. You could also do import / export biz. For example you can send stuff from USA to other countries and profit. I do not see a problem to make $1000 or even $2000 or more per month, which can be good money in some countries where average salary is $300-$500.
if getting yourself some white tail is what you aim for DJ4M, I'd say your best bet would be to head for EE / FSU countries. In those places you would be some kind of novelty and everybody knows that out-of-towners always have extra pussy-points anywhere at a certain level.Not necessarily anymore. It used to be more like this, but now people in those countries are more familiar with blacks than before (10-20-30 years ago).
Still a black person there can be successful and popular in case if he's got lots of money and / or he is famous, for example if he is a participant in a musical group or show. I've heard black singers have some very big value over there and can be in high demand for entertainment industry.
But to be a regular black person, just living normal daily life in Eastern Europe may not be a good idea. There are at least a couple of problems. Some Africans are associated there with drugs and illegals. Another problem there is racism exists. Once in a while skinheads do attack blacks and nonwhites. But south of EE / FSU is much more tolerant and friendly with that aspect.
Back on topic, as unbelievable as it might sound to you USA guys, AW have a reputation for being among the easiest lays in the whole motherfuckin' world, along with Aussies. Like unreally-easy.I have also noticed this a number of times. I think Hollywood and other bullshit propaganda (such as porn, magazines, etc.) have made it's job.
One time a guy in FSU asked me, is it true that AW are really easy and will go have sex with you right away? I asked him if he is out of his mind and where he got this crazy idea. The guy continued complaining that local women (in FSU!) are too hard to get, and he'd heard that AW are a much better with that respect.
I told him that this is total bullshit, and he should be lucky to drive a mercedes (though old but nice looking) in this FSU country where he gets many looks from women all the time. So he gets a lot of opportunity to meet friendly girls everyday. They see him driving a mercedes, it means they get interested who is that guy who probably has a good job, can be a provider or just cool to be / fuck around with.
In contrast, in USA most women would do not give a shit about your car unless it's something rare and very expensive, so this guy would not have a chance in USA. He is also not young and not too good looking.
LittleTruths
03-13-11, 11:51
I have also noticed this a number of times. I think Hollywood and other bullshit propaganda (such as porn, magazines, etc.) have made it's job.
One time a guy in FSU asked me, is it true that AW are really easy and will go have sex with you right away? I asked him if he is out of his mind and where he got this crazy idea. The guy continued complaining that local women (in FSU!) are too hard to get, and he'd heard that AW are a much better with that respect. Out-of-towner effect it is then! (this thing can really be ridiculous, but we all love it)
I have personally often been directly approached by USA chicks here and there, and even tho I haven't had any reason to go there myself some close friends did and all came back with the same stories of how damn easy it is. Now, it could be BS of course, but when you know for a fact that the guy has been all around the world on that trip, then why would he insist on how tuna trow themselves at you in that specifical place?
One of these guys, I have once been to OZ with, and mind you in OZ I entered house parties without even saying "good evening" and found myself in girl's bedrooms within half an hour with no effort whatsoever, so talking of this easy USA pussy I asked my buddy "is it as easy as in OZ?" and he replied with "even easier!".
In the end I guess that beside the money transaction thing, this whole fucking around of ours and this website owes a lot to the out-of-towner effect. You know what I mean, you might be a regular guy in your home town but the simple fact of being on the other side of the world at some given time adds some exotic aura to the way people sees you and so you're suddenly more interesting than you'd be back home and gain pussy-points as a result.
It works wonders for me because I love all kinds of exotic pussy and I'm around the world most of the time, in the meantime pussy loves me too so it's a win-win situation. The only downside is that like this it's difficult to get emotionally attached and even when it happens it is difficult and painful to try and keep it going.
LOL, Mr. Internationals need love too!
Bless
It does not have to be like that.
I have a friend in FSU. He got married last fall. Now his wife is pregnant. The guy still fucks chicks like for $5-$10 in his car or the apartment I rent all the time. His sex life did not change at all after marriage.
I guess this kinda lifestyle is unacceptable or rather impossible in USA where people got to commit to only one way. Single / dating or married.
But I like the idea when you can have best of both worlds. Nice family life with a loving wife (BTW some may have several wives there) and whoring around whenever you feel like doing that. Don't all men would like this kind of lifestyle? Yes and no, any healthy hetero man loves the chucha and a lot, and most of us variety, but we are all different in our specific preferences. Anonymous sex with cold-hearted putas doesn't excite me and I prefer to have the GFE feeling with each sexual encounter and feel like I am friends with the girl before and after the session as opposed to feeling like a customer. I don't know of any place where $10 purchases can provide the GFE.
My own ideal lifestyle in a perfect world would be building and maintaining a small harem of perhaps 3 or 4 hotties, all non and semi-pro types, rotating in and out fresh and stale ones from the stable, plus occasional hunting trips out of town, and no pretenses of being faithful to minimize dramas and BS with the girls. If I relocate to LAm this is a possibility but only if I can keep a certain income stream flowing; most women agreeing to the "no strings" bit will need something else to keep them interested in staying in the loop which is some kind of financial help.
As more women enter the workforce the less likely women will choose a partner based on his ability to provide. If women see themselves as "breadwinners" (or potential "breadwinners"), the more likely they will choose partners based on the same criteria that men choose their mates, looks and sexual aptitude.
If men are being viewed by women more and more as sex objects, then men may be better served by spending more time at the gym and less time working.
-Helpmann :)
not necessarily anymore. it used to be more like this, but now people in those countries are more familiar with blacks than before (10-20-30 years ago).
still a black person there can be successful and popular in case if he's got lots of money and / or he is famous, for example if he is a participant in a musical group or show. i've heard black singers have some very big value over there and can be in high demand for entertainment industry.
but to be a regular black person, just living normal daily life in eastern europe may not be a good idea. there are at least a couple of problems. some africans are associated there with drugs and illegals. another problem there is racism exists. once in a while skinheads do attack blacks and nonwhites. but south of ee / fsu is much more tolerant and friendly with that aspect. hi. we hung out in the fsu before. what do your peeps consider me? just want to know before i go off on a diatribe. thanks.
I agree with this, it is the novelty factor. Where I live now in northeast USA I am a cubicle-worker with little to offer personality-wise or financially (despite a very good salary and being more than financially solvent) that can attract or stimulate the gina tingles inside of any decent available local woman, at least not a caucasian US born woman. There is a married asian woman where I work that flirts with me a bit and seems to have a crush on me, if I was motivated or interested I could probably get an ok asian girlfriend but asians except the real hot ones that are uncommon and probably out of my league here don't do much for me.
But every time I return to Lima Peru I am seen as exciting and interesting, so many girls call me "guapo" or "lindo" it is hard to believe they are just saying that to me for no reason. Part of it is I change when I touch down there, I become a much more engaging and outgoing and humorous guy, even when the skies are overcast the place puts me in a good mood with great food and just the good feeling knowing quality pussy is always in the picture if not with the girl I am hitting on at the moment then another one.
As the Peruvian economy booms and opportunity for locals and materialism expand I see it is getting more difficult over time and guys like me seem less novel, but the city is so big there are still lots of places where my game limited as it is continues to play well. Plus there are other many smaller cities outside of the capital to explore where the girls know very little of foreigners. The cities especially to the north and in the jungle have lots of possibility, for awhile I had a sweetie from Lambayaque, a lovely pretty face, simple and always happy to be with me. That one would still be in play but she sadly has gone from from slightly gordita to plump and I had to drop her.
In the end I guess that beside the money transaction thing, this whole fucking around of ours and this website owes a lot to the out-of-towner effect. You know what I mean, you might be a regular guy in your home town but the simple fact of being on the other side of the world at some given time adds some exotic aura to the way people sees you and so you're suddenly more interesting than you'd be back home and gain pussy-points as a result.
Bless
I am a cubicle-worker with little to offer personality-wise or financially. But every time I return to Lima Peru I am seen as exciting and interesting, so many girls call me "guapo" or "lindo" it is hard to believe they are just saying that to me for no reason. Part of it is I change when I touch down there, I become a much more engaging and outgoing and humorous guy.You have solved the mystery: Sitting in the back of a plane for half the night magically transforms you into an 'interesting person. '
Okay I'll bite. Mister World Traveler, X-Military, Contract Merchant whatever your doing now. What would you have me do?
Be some single bastard, chasing skirts, paying women to leave, forget having my own children, travel the world until I need new pages for my passport?
I'm all ears, most suggestions fall on deaf ears they are 180 degrees of what I want. My overall knowledge is fairly narrow, but I've also seen your post elsewhere on this site and its seems your very cynical, so how can I take any advice about women from you seriously? Simple: You need to do whatever you need save donning a hoodie and a Saturday nite special to better yourself. You are 40 and a complete and utter failure. You are a fuking disgrace. This is a forum for men who have the means to pay for sex. You obviously do not, so do yourself a favor and get off this board. Try monster. Com or vault. The rules of the game are simple: first you get job / status, then you get the accoutrements of the status, and then you enjoy the aforementioned—including women. These are the rules of the game for life since the beginning of time.
You need to stop indulging in your fantasies of EE buxom blondes and face the fact that you are broke, uneducated, and unsuccessful which makes you desirable to NO WOMEN ON THE PLANET.
The truth hurts but so be it. The other ass clowns on this board who place pussy atop the pantheon of life are also worrisome. Traveling to poor countries where you may be considered less of a looser to permanently chase ass is also pathetic. This board is great for the 2 week a year sex tourist but to someone like yourself it's a poor man's shrink. And we all we be committing malpractice is we continue to indulge your drivel.
You will not be hired as an IT professional to work in the EU with a degree from a community college, you will likely never have a woman that can be considered even remotely desirable in ANY country, and you will likely be considered just another bum. If you were 22 or even 32 maybe not, but at 40 you have made your bed and now must sleep in it. You will not pass go and you will not collect $200.
I told your sorry ass a few years ago that you needed to take a huge risk to get out from the hole that you are in and you just continued to lurch around this board and beat off to the pictures that I posted in the photo gallery. I told you to sign up for the EOD—human bomb sniffer—course. It's good $$ and for an uneducated 40 year old like yourself it would have been a good deal for you. I even PM'the you the hiring manager's contact info and agreed to split the referral fee with you. If you had your legs blown off you would get a 500k payout and 5K a month for the rest of your life. With prosthetics nowadays you could have moved to Tajikistan and had a late 20s ethnic Russian dyev to take care of you as long as that 5k came in every month. If you would have died in a bomb blast neither you nor the world would be much. And at least you would have died serving your country.
I don't fault you for being a pernnial looser; I fault you for not doing anything concretely to better yourself.
As more women enter the workforce the less likely women will choose a partner based on his ability to provide. If women see themselves as "breadwinners" (or potential "breadwinners") , the more likely they will choose partners based on the same criteria that men choose their mates, looks and sexual aptitude.
If men are being viewed by women more and more as sex objects, then men may be better served by spending more time at the gym and less time working.
-Helpmann. AW talk that feminist nonsense but gender roles are still alive and even dominant in America. Women seek security, stability, and want to be taken care of. It's biological.
As I date more and more in America I have found that women refuse to date men less successful than they are. This just raises the bar with even more unrealistic expecations. She does not think I make 70k a year thus I will settle for a walmart sales associate who makes 27k. She thinks with my 70k and his 80k we can have two cars and a nice house.
The average AM is getting squeezed out of the market due to unrealstic expectations of the AW.
Socialist European women from rich small countries are more likely to date men less stable than they are though.
Yes and no, any healthy hetero man loves the chucha and a lot, and most of us variety, but we are all different in our specific preferences. Anonymous sex with cold-hearted putas doesn't excite me and I prefer to have the GFE feeling with each sexual encounter and feel like I am friends with the girl before and after the session as opposed to feeling like a customer. I don't know of any place where $10 purchases can provide the GFE.
My own ideal lifestyle in a perfect world would be building and maintaining a small harem of perhaps 3 or 4 hotties, all non and semi-pro types, rotating in and out fresh and stale ones from the stable, plus occasional hunting trips out of town, and no pretenses of being faithful to minimize dramas and BS with the girls. If I relocate to LAm this is a possibility but only if I can keep a certain income stream flowing; most women agreeing to the "no strings" bit will need something else to keep them interested in staying in the loop which is some kind of financial help. A few months ago someone posted an article about this dude who went to live in jungles of the Phillpines; I think he had a liftestyle similair to that which you seek. If you locate to a 2nd or 3rd tier city in Peru and have the $$ to do it I am sure that you can have a few Sugarbabbies.
You wrote that you make good $$ in the USA. You can acquire a few NSA girls from the south between 27-30 for between 500-1000 a month.
You wrote that you make good $$ in the USA. You can acquire a few NSA girls from the south between 27-30 for between 500-1000 a month.Is this using those sugardaddy websites?
Is this using those sugardaddy websites?Tha Canucks normally require less $$ than the AW. Less attitude too.
LittleTruths
03-13-11, 15:44
Socialist European women from rich small countries are more likely to date men less stable than they are though.True that. A good part of the population over here doesn't suffer from such a competitive mindset as it seems to be the case in the USA and as a result money and status is not the only thing you, as a man, can bring on the table. Not every man needs to be a provider anymore. Having game or looks or being good in the sack or having an enormous dick or all of the above will also get you far with a lot of women but that's everywhere; then it depends on where you want to place yourself in how and to who you relate to.
Just like pussy ain't the top and only thing of life, neither is material possessions and the work you have to do to keep it all up and running.
Bless
I agree with this, it is the novelty factor. Where I live now in northeast USA I am a cubicle-worker with little to offer personality-wise or financially (despite a very good salary and being more than financially solvent) that can attract or stimulate the gina tingles inside of any decent available local woman, at least not a caucasian US born woman.
As the Peruvian economy booms and opportunity for locals and materialism expand I see it is getting more difficult over time and guys like me seem less novel, but the city is so big there are still lots of places where my game limited as it is continues to play well. Plus there are other many smaller cities outside of the capital to explore where the girls know very little of foreigners. The cities especially to the north and in the jungle have lots of possibility, for awhile I had a sweetie from Lambayaque, a lovely pretty face, simple and always happy to be with me. That one would still be in play but she sadly has gone from from slightly gordita to plump and I had to drop her. Dude, stope selling yourself short and believing that you have little to offer AW. You have a good job and appear to be a gentleman. The bar scene is not for everybody and caters to the wrong qualities anyway. Try its just lunch and / or meet women at social events. Keep trying. If the woman can't see your value then move in because she is not the one for you.
hi. we hung out in the fsu before. what do your peeps consider me? just want to know before i go off on a diatribe. thanks.one cannot generalize here, there are very different people and attitudes. are you asking abut yourself only or all blacks in general?
as you have noticed, it depends a lot on the region and area type (city, village, suburbs) in fsu. generally in fsu south attitude to blacks is good. in north there are more racists. still most people have no problems with blacks, and some love to see them on tv, musical concerts, etc. but at the same time there some racist movements exist. they are against everybody who is not white and comes from another country.
even in the north people from fsu south are sometimes called "blacks", and it actually sounds offensive. may be that's why in fsu south people are much more tolerant to anything that is not white since they are "black", asians or both themselves.
My own ideal lifestyle in a perfect world would be building and maintaining a small harem of perhaps 3 or 4 hotties, all non and semi-pro types, rotating in and out fresh and stale ones from the stable, plus occasional hunting trips out of town, and no pretenses of being faithful to minimize dramas and BS with the girls. If I relocate to LAm this is a possibility but only if I can keep a certain income stream flowing; most women agreeing to the "no strings" bit will need something else to keep them interested in staying in the loop which is some kind of financial help.This is what actually some people are doing there. Of course not many can afford this. GFE on the side can be expensive.
But people with money can have several "wives". Sometimes they buy for those extra wives apartments or cars, plus other financial help. So supposedly because of such generocity those wives are committed to only this guy and not supposed to cheat. In a muslim culture this is acceptable, some people would not like that, but nobody gets pissed off much. As long as the guy provides for his women, nobody can complain.
As more women enter the workforce the less likely women will choose a partner based on his ability to provide. If women see themselves as "breadwinners" (or potential "breadwinners") , the more likely they will choose partners based on the same criteria that men choose their mates, looks and sexual aptitude.
If men are being viewed by women more and more as sex objects, then men may be better served by spending more time at the gym and less time working.
HelpmannThis is exactly what is hapenning in USA and probably other feminist societies.
Few years ago I went to a gym for about a month in USA. Sometimes I was counting the ratio between men and women attending. Most of the time there were about 10 men and 2 women! Or a similar ratio. Often zero women and only men. Definately something is very wrong here. It means that men are getting into shape while women eating pizza and sitting on their ass watching TV. The ratio should be at least 50/50.
On the other hand when I was going to a kickboxing gym, the ratio often was much better. But I think it had a lot to do that women want to be able to fight and be able kick men's ass. I think there is a propaganda like this in USA.
Not necessarily anymore. It used to be more like this, but now people in those countries are more familiar with blacks than before (10-20-30 years ago).
Still a black person there can be successful and popular in case if he's got lots of money and / or he is famous, for example if he is a participant in a musical group or show. I've heard black singers have some very big value over there and can be in high demand for entertainment industry.
But to be a regular black person, just living normal daily life in Eastern Europe may not be a good idea. There are at least a couple of problems. Some Africans are associated there with drugs and illegals. Another problem there is racism exists. Once in a while skinheads do attack blacks and nonwhites. But south of EE / FSU is much more tolerant and friendly with that aspect. Most of what you guys are talking about is nonsense.
I know of no place in particular where black guys. And by that I mean Black Americans don't kill.
North America, South America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Asia, Oceana, Africa.
Although Latin America and North America has its racist history. And overarching cultural biases. On the individual level this ends up meaning very little when interacting with females.
The easiest place for black guy to score white tail is right here in the USA.. No need to travel far for that.
Just because the men of a particular place hate on the brothers (sexual competition) does not mean that the women share the same view. Especially, when she is behind closed doors or her "rep" (I. E. Opportunity to find a beta to marry) is not jeopardized.
Most of what you guys are talking about is nonsense.
I know of no place in particular where black guys. And by that I mean Black Americans don't kill.
North America, South America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Asia, Oceana, Africa.
Although Latin America and North America has its racist history. And overarching cultural biases. On the individual level this ends up meaning very little when interacting with females.
The easiest place for black guy to score white tail is right here in the USA. No need to travel far for that.Why nonsense? I believe I know what I'm talking about. I'm very well familiar with Easter Europe, know many people there. There are various attitudes (from love, non different, and to hate) towards blacks (and actually non whites in general) as I wrote before. There are also some women who do get married to black men. I know one personally from Eastern Europe who moved to USA, also had kids with a black man.
So in general DJ4M has an opportunity to meet a nice family oriented woman of the age he wants. The main issue here, as Dirk Dingy explained, the guy must be successful and be able to provide well for the new family.
Eastern European women are not as naive and desperate as they used to be 15-20 years ago.
Dude, stope selling yourself short and believing that you have little to offer AW. You have a good job and appear to be a gentleman. The bar scene is not for everybody and caters to the wrong qualities anyway. Try its just lunch and / or meet women at social events. Keep trying. If the woman can't see your value then move in because she is not the one for you.Thanks, but it's not just me, I also feel AW generally have little to offer me. There are a few good ones I am sure, but the decently hot and nonfat ones have lots of choices and are going to go for either the bad boys, smooth-talking salesman / sportscar types, or high-level power corporativos. If I had some other qualities, sure I do have the money required to spend on them, if I was serious I would trade in my Honda Civic for a sportscar or Lexus.
But I'm basically a STEM guy with a quiet personality to match and not in those categories. Also I am 1. 68 mts, unless one is a muscular little napoleon lack of height is a big drawback in USA in the dating market, while pretty much a non-issue in much of LAm, especially Peru. I feel its important to realize in life when certain things just aren't going to happen.
Life is not perfect, it never is, but thanks to air travel and my near-fluent Spanish LAm continues to offer me the ability to live my dreams at least intermittently, so certainly things could be much worse.
yes, in peru that could be trujillo or chiclayo, or tarapoto, lots of hot women in these cities. check out this tarapotana that is on my radar, can you say hot:
http://www.slide.com/r/mdzxlaqcqt82phmvgzpz8ws9rd3olh4r?previous_view=ticker&previous_action=ticker_item_click&ciid=2449958197335147622
but keeping a solid money flow is less challenging from a first-tier city, in my case remote programming work for a us company. better high-speed internet connectivity is more available in these large international cities plus easier ability to fly back on site to us if needed. do you really want to live in some ass backwards location with no real friends for some pussy? you can't fuck 24/7. remember that the 2nd world is the 2nd world for a reason-limited infastructure, sporadic rule of law, corrupton, limited access to decent medical care, insurgenices and kidnappings in la (shining path in your case) , etc. not to mention how fukcing boring it will be with no decent mates.
i am not saying its a bad idea; just giving you the flip side of the coin.
i am normally against the importation of foreign women for most expats because they have no clue who they are buying, but in your case, as long as you are sober about the transaction, you seem like a strong candidate for a foreign bride. especially if you meet her on one of your extended sojourns to bfe in peru.
Thanks, but it's not just me, I also feel AW generally have little to offer me. There are a few good ones I am sure, but the decently hot and nonfat ones have lots of choices and are going to go for either the bad boys, smooth-talking salesman / sportscar types, or high-level power corporativos. If I had some other qualities, sure I do have the money required to spend on them, if I was serious I would trade in my Honda Civic for a sportscar or Lexus.
But I'm basically a STEM guy with a quiet personality to match and not in those categories. Also I am 1. 68 mts, unless one is a muscular little napoleon lack of height is a big drawback in USA in the dating market, while pretty much a non-issue in much of LAm, especially Peru. I feel its important to realize in life when certain things just aren't going to happen.
Life is not perfect, it never is, but thanks to air travel and my near-fluent Spanish LAm continues to offer me the ability to live my dreams at least intermittently, so certainly things could be much worse. Peru is great for GFE. I too have fallen for peruvian women. If Lima was as cheap as it was a few years ago I would be envious of anybody living there. These days are different. It's gotten too pricey to go out on GFE dates and the pfp IMHO has not gotten better in years. Actually it's gotten worse. Places have closed and those that were affordable are now accepting credit cards.
I've heard that each town has a chongo but I can tell you from experience that any town south of Lima is good for a few hours if that. I will never venture south again. The amazon is cool for a few days and the woman are AMAZING looking but what to do when the milk dries up?
Lima was my dream for a long time. I've never felt more manly anywhere else! Things change though and places change. To be honest I have no idea where I could stay for 2 months without getting antsy.
If you have enough money and time renting on the fly and moving around is the way to go.
True that. A good part of the population over here doesn't suffer from such a competitive mindset as it seems to be the case in the USA and as a result money and status is not the only thing you, as a man, can bring on the table. Not every man needs to be a provider anymore. Having game or looks or being good in the sack or having an enormous dick or all of the above will also get you far with a lot of women but that's everywhere; then it depends on where you want to place yourself in how and to who you relate to.
Just like pussy ain't the top and only thing of life, neither is material possessions and the work you have to do to keep it all up and running.
BlessFirst: Yes, being amusing for a lack of a better term, can attract women anywhere in the world. For a fling but stability wins 8/10 times in the long term. Yes, in places like Sweeden they are not as concerned with material stuff as in the rest of the world.
Second: I find the way some Scandavanians live as in some perverted Mr. Mom movie to be very emasculating. I am a man, not a fucking nurse or a maid. I could not sit on my ass and have some woman by my master. That's some pussy ass junk.
Third: You are correct, $$ is not everything as long as you have your needs met at an accepetable level.
Peru is great for GFE. I too have fallen for peruvian women. If Lima was as cheap as it was a few years ago I would be envious of anybody living there. These days are different. It's gotten too pricey to go out on GFE dates and the pfp IMHO has not gotten better in years. Actually it's gotten worse. .
If you have enough money and time renting on the fly and moving around is the way to go. The world is flat. Even BKK is damn expensive now. Tell us more about these Amazon women please.
one cannot generalize here, there are very different people and attitudes. are you asking abut yourself only or all blacks in general?
as you have noticed, it depends a lot on the region and area type (city, village, suburbs) in fsu. generally in fsu south attitude to blacks is good. in north there are more racists. still most people have no problems with blacks, and some love to see them on tv, musical concerts, etc. but at the same time there some racist movements exist. they are against everybody who is not white and comes from another country.
even in the north people from fsu south are sometimes called "blacks", and it actually sounds offensive. may be that's why in fsu south people are much more tolerant to anything that is not white since they are "black", asians or both themselves.
i mean what race/ethnicity am i viewed as by your peeps?
The world is flat. Even BKK is damn expensive now. Tell us more about these Amazon women please.The link to that chica I posted, from Tarapoto, that is amazon jungle blood. If you saw those pics I think they say 1000 words. These provincial girls are simple and humble, the most important thing in the world to them unless they have a bebe is snaring a man either short or long time. Of course when they have a bebe they still want and need what a man can offer for obvious reasons. There are different types, she may pursue or work regular jobs or careers, or she may simply live off men for the most part, but inside of them pursuing and ultimately pleasing a man she wants comes first in her heart. For the masculinized AW it is usually the opposite, life revolves around / work and career and all the energy needed to succeed in a more complex economy. The hot provincials like any hot woman knows what she has and how to get men and will settle for local men, but a decent foreign man with some means appeals to them on multiple levels, whether in P4P terms she is a non-pro, semi-pro, or pro-in-denial. Linked Tarapoto girl is category 2 or 3, she already tried to get 300 WU dollars from me, I refused to send her anything and she is ok, still wants very much to see me, implicit is she will get some benefits from me after I tap her. If it happens she is just a flake who was just hoping to steal my money it is no big loss to me.
The other downside with these simple chicas besides their craftiness is after you bang them you often don't have much to talk about. But my Lima and Lima-born favorite girl is a big city girl and great conversationalist and we can spend hours with her between sessions doing whatever and never get bored which is unusual and along with her passionate bedroom performance has made her a keeper for me. I mentioned previously in this forum I have sent this one modest amounts by moneygram, she is a true non pro with a genuine need for money and has yet to abuse the privilege. Tarapoto girl knows all about the favorita, sometimes I like to get their competitive juices flowing when it makes sense to do so.
More amazonas. Tarapoto Peru. These women are like the best brasilianas, built for sex, thighs and asses to die for and nice faces to boot. I'd like to check out an event at this place when I visit, my knowledge is still limited but certainly there have got to be some very satisfied upper-crust local businessmen in that city:
http://macumbalatingrill.com/galerias/main.php?g2_itemId=408
i mean what race/ethnicity am i viewed as by your peeps?i did not ask them, i'd guess african-american.
Peru is great for GFE. I too have fallen for peruvian women. If Lima was as cheap as it was a few years ago I would be envious of anybody living there. These days are different. It's gotten too pricey to go out on GFE dates and the pfp IMHO has not gotten better in years. Actually it's gotten worse. Places have closed and those that were affordable are now accepting credit cards.Unfortunately President Garcia is an inflationist and Peru has been purchasing $ to keep up with Bernanke and the US money printers, keeping the $ to soles stuck at 2. 75 despite the ongoing dollar devaluation. And no need for it there, Peru long-term would be better off with a more sustainable 3 or 4% growth rate instead the current 8% or so that creates risk of a bigger bust eventually.
The world is flat. Even BKK is damn expensive now. Tell us more about these Amazon women please.Very true. There are a few places left IMHO where a guy on a budget can get laid.
Peruvian women from the jungle are HOTTT. There is no other way to describe it. However time after time I have fallen in love with photos of girls from piura. A city close to the border of ecuador.
All I need to see is golden brown skin and I am sold.
All women in general are looking for basically the same dream.
A knight in shining white armor (Attractive a definite bonus) to pick them up take them some where nice, set up camp and look after their immediate and future needs.
This holds true if they come from Beverly Hills or the Amazon.
Although I do agree there needs and expectations vary widely.
If it looks like can deliver this your are in? If not don't waste your time.
As they say in BKK. No Money, No Honey.
Its not a matter of what you need to be comfortable its a matter of the women think they need to be comfortable.
In Peru, Where I live you can get an attractive 20 yr old for $USD 50 per night (12 hours).
Sly
DJ FourMoney
03-14-11, 20:31
For the record, because the album is too motherfucking long, everyone has "failed relationships" unless they marry the first person they fuck and remain married to that person until they die period! The only other exception is if you're like That Asshole, the monger who said that he never had a girlfriend in his life, and paid for each and every piece of ass you ever got. Otherwise if you ever had a girlfriend and broke up then the relationship failed. That means pretty much everyone has failed relationships in the West.
Also, some of us have had girlfriends for longer than most marriages last. I have dated women for years that I decided to let go because they wanted marriage. In fact, the last one I let go married another guy and in less than a year the marriage came to a violent end. I think I made the right decision. I also have a very attractive college educated girl running my business and making monthly desposits into my account. I love pussy but I love it even more when it pays me. I could marry and give up strange pussy anytime I choose. However, I don't see any compelling reason for doing so.
Anyway, I'm getting what I want out of life there is no need for static. Other young cats with money like DD and Warbucks tried to give you advice on how succeed but you don't want it. So, just do you man. Live your life. I wouldn't comment on your shit. What advice is that? Work for the same Military Industrial Complex they do? I checked into that, KBR and others want X military. I thought about going to school to learn how to find land mines. At $15, 000 that's a non-starter.
Joining the Army as some others have suggested is a non-starter.
Then relationship advice from two guys that are never home and for the most part have no permanent address?
I understand this site is mainly for looking for pussy. But some of you seem to think that involves everything but monogamous relationships which is false. You desire to have sex with multiple partners based on the Eddie Murphy "Same Old Crackers" line. That's fine and if you want to live that lifestyle then that's for you, I don't make light or fun of it.
But you don't show me the same level of respect the other way. My ex wanted to marry me, I didn't want to marry a woman with weight problems. That was the main but not the only reason I let her go.
DJ FourMoney
03-14-11, 20:47
I agree, IT now is really hard field. In addition to outsourcing Indians, there are also lots of talented young IT / programmers in Eastern Europe. How a non college graduate beginner programmer in his 40s could compete with them I have no idea. Of course anything is possible, but it seems to be a hard way.
If I were D. J. I would go into an own online business. Of course there is a lot of competition too, but it is very realistic to make some money. You could also do import / export biz. For example you can send stuff from USA to other countries and profit. I do not see a problem to make $1000 or even $2000 or more per month, which can be good money in some countries where average salary is $300-$500. I don't think I want my own business, I've been a DJ since high school I'm too lazy to promote myself and owning a service oriented business means finding your customers. I'm not much of a self-promoter. I am task oriented, give me something to do and I'll do it as long as it doesn't insult my intelligence.
All this fear of outsourcing is ridiculous and here's why.
They are handing HB1's out like candy but even with that, there still jobs open.
It does not have to be like that.
I have a friend in FSU. He got married last fall. Now his wife is pregnant. The guy still fucks chicks like for $5-$10 in his car or the apartment I rent all the time. His sex life did not change at all after marriage.
I guess this kinda lifestyle is unacceptable or rather impossible in USA where people got to commit to only one way. Single / dating or married.
But I like the idea when you can have best of both worlds. Nice family life with a loving wife (BTW some may have several wives there) and whoring around whenever you feel like doing that. Don't all men would like this kind of lifestyle? I have heard before that FSU Women find sex only acceptable as long as they don't embarrass the family.
DJ FourMoney
03-14-11, 20:59
Simple: You need to do whatever you need save donning a hoodie and a Saturday nite special to better yourself. You are 40 and a complete and utter failure. You are a fuking disgrace. This is a forum for men who have the means to pay for sex. You obviously do not, so do yourself a favor and get off this board. Try monster. Com or vault. The rules of the game are simple: first you get job / status, then you get the accoutrements of the status, and then you enjoy the aforementioned—including women. These are the rules of the game for life since the beginning of time.
You need to stop indulging in your fantasies of EE buxom blondes and face the fact that you are broke, uneducated, and unsuccessful which makes you desirable to NO WOMEN ON THE PLANET.
The truth hurts but so be it. The other ass clowns on this board who place pussy atop the pantheon of life are also worrisome. Traveling to poor countries where you may be considered less of a looser to permanently chase ass is also pathetic. This board is great for the 2 week a year sex tourist but to someone like yourself it's a poor man's shrink. And we all we be committing malpractice is we continue to indulge your drivel.
You will not be hired as an IT professional to work in the EU with a degree from a community college, you will likely never have a woman that can be considered even remotely desirable in ANY country, and you will likely be considered just another bum. If you were 22 or even 32 maybe not, but at 40 you have made your bed and now must sleep in it. You will not pass go and you will not collect $200.
I told your sorry ass a few years ago that you needed to take a huge risk to get out from the hole that you are in and you just continued to lurch around this board and beat off to the pictures that I posted in the photo gallery. I told you to sign up for the EOD—human bomb sniffer—course. It's good $$ and for an uneducated 40 year old like yourself it would have been a good deal for you. I even PM'the you the hiring manager's contact info and agreed to split the referral fee with you. If you had your legs blown off you would get a 500k payout and 5K a month for the rest of your life. With prosthetics nowadays you could have moved to Tajikistan and had a late 20s ethnic Russian dyev to take care of you as long as that 5k came in every month. If you would have died in a bomb blast neither you nor the world would be much. And at least you would have died serving your country.
I don't fault you for being a pernnial looser; I fault you for not doing anything concretely to better yourself. So not following your advice I've become a looser? Interesting. I didn't want to be in the sandbox. What your doing is what I call gaming the system. So you found a way to make money, travel at random, screw all types of women and don't have a permanent address.
I do use P4P as I prefer not to go sexless. That's perfectly acceptable here and I've never gotten a PM from Jackson saying I don't belong here.
I'v never beat off to pictures you have posted, now that's funny. I only beat off to moving pictures you haven't posted any of those.
DJ FourMoney
03-14-11, 21:20
Why nonsense? I believe I know what I'm talking about. I'm very well familiar with Easter Europe, know many people there. There are various attitudes (from love, non different, and to hate) towards blacks (and actually non whites in general) as I wrote before. There are also some women who do get married to black men. I know one personally from Eastern Europe who moved to USA, also had kids with a black man.
So in general DJ4M has an opportunity to meet a nice family oriented woman of the age he wants. The main issue here, as Dirk Dingy explained, the guy must be successful and be able to provide well for the new family.
Eastern European women are not as naive and desperate as they used to be 15-20 years ago. Which is why I went back to school Goga. Can't do it on 25K a year. You can try to do it, but I rather not because to be honest low rank pussy goes with lower income earning.
Define "Successful"? Material Success? So if I'm in debt up to my eye balls (recent Loyola Grad school bill is $85K) but still manage to pay rent on a posh $3, 000 apartment near the Staple Center and drive a fancy German car, that's considered Successful?
I don't think any FSU Women is desperate even in very poor countries like Moldova or the 'Stans but there are still plenty of women to go around.
I would agree with D-Law about with one small change. There are more IR couples in the UK than in the US, more than double as many (27% vs 4%). I would argue the best place for black men to pick up Anglo chicks is Britain and Canada, not the US.
There are more IR couples in the UK than in the US, more than double as many (27% vs 4%). I would argue the best place for black men to pick up Anglo chicks is Britain and Canada, not the US.Need a % breakdown on which is the black and which is the white half of the inter-racial couple.
what advice is that? work for the same military industrial complex they do? i checked into that, kbr and others want x military. i thought about going to school to learn how to find land mines. at $15, 000 that's a non-starter.
joining the army as some others have suggested is a non-starter.
then relationship advice from two guys that are never home and for the most part have no permanent address?
i understand this site is mainly for looking for pussy. but some of you seem to think that involves everything but monogamous relationships which is false. you desire to have sex with multiple partners based on the eddie murphy "same old crackers" line. that's fine and if you want to live that lifestyle then that's for you, i don't make light or fun of it.
but you don't show me the same level of respect the other way. my ex wanted to marry me, i didn't want to marry a woman with weight problems. that was the main but not the only reason i let her go. dj,
i think that you are confused about my profession. i do not work for the military industrial complex per se. i worked for the emerging markets division of a huge multinational consulting firm for about five years. i am not some x-jarhead slinging a weapon. i have an ivy league degree, worked on wall street after graduation, and then migrated to the consulting world. i have spent about 60% of my time in conflict zones namely because of the dearth of qualified peers willing to go, the amount of authority granted, copious vacation time, and (for what this middle class kid from so cal considers) good money; however, the remaining time i have worked on donor funded projects in eastern europe, central asia, and non middle east. 90% of the projects i work on are economic / fiscal related no matter the location. i also worked for my previous employer on projects in the us.
i have met a few people from this site and my bonafides have been firmly established.
as i have been deemed sufficiently competent and reliable by various donor agencies, i have cut the middle man out and now work for various donor agencies directly on short and medium term contracts at a rate between $550—$1100 per day plus 4 star level hotel accommodation and an extra 2k-4k a month per diem. when i was a jr. guy i spent quite a bit of my time in the 'sandbox', but now, having paid my dues, i am pickier about the locations which i work. i used to take any project offered at whatever rate offered but those days are (hopefully) in my rearview mirror.
contrary to your assertions, i do have an address-three actually- a condo in sea, an apartment share in a recent eu country in the balkans, and a 5200 sq ft house in the usa that i recently purchased. but yes, consultants do spend the bulk of their time on the road and some may consider it a drawback of the profession.
unlike you, i had little scruples about making $$ when i had little, and am still hungry for a buck now that i have a few. hell, if there is a de minimus chance of indictment, i will probably take the contract.
when i was broke, ostracized by my "freinds", and living in my mom's house with no pussy i took a job doing menial labor in iraq which was humbling to say the least, but was better than being broke with no possibility of pussy.
i do not think nor do i recall saying that $$ is the only thing that matters when attracting women; however, in materialistic cultures like our own and in poor countries where stability is paramount it is the dominant factor. nevertheless one should not focus on $$. it's an effect rather than the cause of what attracts women. what attracts women is success. that's what you lack. losers are no more popular in bangladesh than they are in oslo.
in america, where the 'reach factor' is always in play it stops many men on this board from getting what they are entitled to. if a man is successful in his career but short and not overly engaging he may have a hard time getting a woman of comparable value. aw, especially when they are young, desire a successful, handsome, and entertaining mate. even though she is a 5, she thinks she can score a 7. and that 7 thinks she deserves no less than an 8. when in reality the 5 should be with 5 and the 7 with the 7. as they got older they get wiser, but unfortunately by that time they are no longer as desirable as they once were.
in poorer countries, the women are primarily concerned with stability above all else. this is where traveling poses the most value to some on this board. money can mask 'deficiencies' in looks and personality in the developing world.
you must note that the mentality in much of the developing world is completely different than in the west.
for instance, with russian women, because of the instability of their community, they value stability above all else. it does not matter what one looks like or what one's personality is, it only matters what you one provide for her as a husband and boyfriend. these women are taught from an early age 'the prettier you are the better man you will have; the better man you have the better your life will be. ' the man is viewed primarily through the lens of a provider. that's what a man is for. to provide for his woman. if one is a good provider, as goga fung indicated, one can have many girlfriends, mistresses, and generally do shit that would earn one divorce papers in the civilized world.
because you can't provide for yourself let alone a pretty gal, you have little chance with these women.
in scandinavia, in america, most of the women can equate success with something other than a car and the area code of a home. for instance, if one is a successful artist, a materialistic american woman will think 'great, but how can that pay the bills? ' while a person who lives in a small homogenous liberal rich socialist country will think, 'great, i think his unique passion is cool'.
just as some aw erroneously conflate success with $$ you should not believe that scandinavians equate a lack of success with attractiveness.
that tuition for that landmine course i turned you onto would have been paid by the firm. but if you quit within a year of graduation-as i am sure many thinking people do-you would be liable to repay the firm for the tuition. another fellow i turned on to this job worked for a year in africa and afghanistan, claimed some bs mental disorder, and now lives of 5k a month disability in manillla.
Bango Cheito
03-15-11, 07:07
I'd love to take anybody up on it, come down here to Bogota and see how well you do with the non-pros. Don't flash cash because you're a strong black brother and that "kills" anywhere. If someone would care to properly define what "killing" is we could make a bet even :P.
I personally have no problem with women of any color, I'm not picky at all. Myself I'm very very white and tend to avoid women who look too much like me with pink skin and yellow hair, but if one came knocking on my door naked I doubt I'd turn her away. So don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on my observations and not making value judgement.
People here in Colombia tend to equate "black" with "ugly" and in most of the rest of this part of the world it's the same. I've seen stunning black women go by and my friends don't even give her a second look. I show people here pictures of my black ex-wife and I've had people practically go into SHOCK. And it's mainly the WOMEN that react that way, not so much the men. And I know people here from every class and every walk of life. My life here takes me everywhere. Women here tell me point blank that they would never have anything sexually to do with a black man. I dunno how much of it is cultural influence or what people's sexual preferences really are.
For the record when they see pictures of my two fairly light-skinned kids, everybody says how beautiful they are. So there's a definite color-line here. In other words, if you're considered "black" in the USA and are light-skinned enough you'll do fine here.
I have a black friend, amazing drummer, in perfect shape, picks up girls in the US left right and center, but he's NEVER nailed a Colombian woman. When he told me THAT, it clicked instantly for me.
For the record, both here AND in the USA and just about anywhere else I've been mongering, the darker-skinned the woman is, the lower the value she has on the market. When I used to monger in NYC (which in the general population has quite an even balance) black girls always commanded the lowest fees, and whites were at the top of the scale, with the Asians a close second. I saw dudes happily shell out $300 to fuck a barely passable looking white chick and pass over a gorgeous black girl for $80.
Last time I was in Montreal, I went to an incall and they had a bunch of real average looking white chicks and a brown-skinned stunner (obvious choice for me, hands down). My favorite spot here in Bogota has a whole bunch of real good looking chicks of all styles, shapes and colors but they have one former beauty queen who is real dark skinned, stands out like a motherfucker even among all the beauties there. Her rates are among the cheapest. I just thank the Goddess I don't have any ingrained cultural prejudices and can see the forest for the trees. . But to me the phenomenon is world-wide.
Bango Cheito
03-15-11, 07:23
For the record, I was born and raised in Canada. Canada is the most segregated place on Earth. In Toronto, each little group of immigrants has its own little neighborhood and people don't really mix well with each other. I had a serious case of jungle fever in Toronto because I could NEVER get a dark-skinned chick and I was curious. But there was no way a black woman was going to date a white guy in Toronto. Never happen. It might work a little easier the other way around, but the girl's family is NEVER going to be cool about it. I had a Portuguese friend there who married an Ecuadoran and his family disowned him for marrying "that spic *****".
I'd say any place is easier to get laid in if you're coming in from out of town. That's always a strong factor. I use it to my advantage when I travel to various cities in Colombia.
Bango Cheito
03-15-11, 07:27
I personally think many of you guys are overestimating the effect of money on women. I'm not denying it exists, because it does and it's a powerful force. But I think now the most powerful force is sheer physical attraction, and if you can learn to work that, everything else becomes easier. I've watched a couple of my gorgeous broke-ass male friends pick up girls no problem, even have the girls pay the hotel room and buy dinner etc. They inspired me so much, I stopped using money as leverage alltogether, and instead I put that money into my own appearance. :P it's working better and better.
one former beauty queen who is real dark skinned, stands out like a motherfucker even among all the beauties there. Her rates are among the cheapest. I just thank the Goddess I don't have any ingrained cultural prejudices and can see the forest for the trees. . But to me the phenomenon is world-wide.May be this will sound weird for you, but there are places with quite opposite situation. If you check escort girls in Russia, you may see that black girls may ask for much more than white girls. Because it is something unusual and very exotic for those kind of places.
I also kinda get feeling that when you talk about Colombians you talk like about Bogotenos / rolos. I think Colombians in other places such as from the coast, Medellin, etc. Can be different. More tolerant to races and / or more laidback.
I put that money into my own appearance.Just curious, what do you mean by that?
I personally think many of you guys are overestimating the effect of money on women. I'm not denying it exists, because it does and it's a powerful force. But I think now the most powerful force is sheer physical attraction, and if you can learn to work that, everything else becomes easier. I've watched a couple of my gorgeous broke-ass male friends pick up girls no problem, even have the girls pay the hotel room and buy dinner etc. They inspired me so much, I stopped using money as leverage alltogether, and instead I put that money into my own appearance. :P it's working better and better.Good looking and charming men can pick up lots of women. If one was kissed by the pretty gods then sex is easily avail. Sure, you can have a bunch of one nite stands with good looking women. However, if a woman is looking for a serious relationship she values the stability-read $$- more than the eye candy. Yes one can fuck cougurs and other women picked up from the bar if one is handsome.
I have been the fuck buddy of many oht EE women, but until they knew that I was a "serious man" they would always view me as nothing more than a fun dick and treated me accordingly. It made me very uncomfortable. Being a "serious man" in the FSU and EE is the difference between her picking up the phone when you call 24/7 and her texting you back 7/10 times that she is "very busy" or "feeling sick"
Some men may be content to be the *****. To each their own, but when one is a boy toy you have little power in the relationship. I hate being powerless. I have fucked many girls for free and also have sponsored a few girls and prefer the latter.
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...349#post860349
In the USA, I don't think you have to be rich, good looking, or charming to get a one nite stand; you just have to go to a bar and feed a woman drinks.
Bango Cheito
03-15-11, 09:24
Good looking and charming men can pick up lots of women. If one was kissed by the pretty gods then sex is easily avail. Sure, you can have a bunch of one nite stands with good looking women. However, if a woman is looking for a serious relationship she values the stability-read $$- more than the eye candy. Yes one can fuck cougurs and other women picked up from the bar if one is handsome.
I have been the fuck buddy of many oht EE women, but until they knew that I was a "serious man" they would always view me as nothing more than a fun dick and treated me accordingly. It made me very uncomfortable. Being a "serious man" in the FSU and EE is the difference between her picking up the phone when you call 24/7 and her texting you back 7/10 times that she is "very busy" or "feeling sick"
Some men may be content to be the. To each their own, but when one is a boy toy you have little power in the relationship. I hate being powerless. I have fucked many girls for free and also have sponsored a few girls and prefer the latter.
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...349#post860349
In the USA, I don't think you have to be rich, good looking, or charming to get a one nite stand; you just have to go to a bar and feed a woman drinks. I used to think that way too. I've seen things in my time here that made me re-think things. You see in the USA people tend to be fat, ugly and unkempt. Here they tend to be very good-looking and EXTREMELY concerned about their appearance. This isn't the plastic surgery capital of the world for nothing! That actually changes the whole sex and relationship dynamic, making people hornier on average and more willing to fuck around.
I've been observing my best friend here, who is a total horndog, drop dead gorgeous and gets laid almost daily with a different girl, often with them picking up the tab for everything. I used to think that, and that's the common wisdom about him, that he's just good for a fuck, and not long term material. That's what people SAY but. Watch the girls' actions. Many of them would MARRY the motherfucker if they had half a chance. That's the honest truth. Attraction is attraction, it doesn't have all these little compartments we think it does. It's just one big continuum.
DirkDingy, your last two posts pretty much hit the bullseye as far as I can tell. But Bango has some good points too. In my case I find the Peruvian and Colombian chicas love that I am very white and have green eyes. I can't count how many times I have heard "tus ojos son lindos" (your eyes are beautiful). And I agree that a broke-ass guy can get laid anywhere with a hot girl if he has the right style personality and look for his environment. My negatives, lack of height and athletic build and age in middle 40s don't hurt me much in LAm, but I do look much younger and can pass for 35.
Among many factors responsible for my youthful appearance is never having had a wife and kids, especially one born and bred in USA. Though I am not fat I could be somewhat and it also would not hurt too much as far as scoring unless I was truly obese and gross. But besides looking better being fit I feel better and perform better sexually.
I do think the tall and fat combination would go over better at least with some LAm women than short and fat which could be me if I ate poorly and didn't exercise. Big and tall, fat and white and middle-aged in a place like Lima is not a bad thing to be = novelty, money, status equals sexual opportunity. Incidentally gaining muscle and even better fitness which I do work on but is hard for me would be to my benefit in multiple ways. I am a slender hard-gainer who has to eat 5 or more meals a day to gain muscle no matter how much I work out.
I do feel if I was black or Chinese I am sure I would have a much harder time getting the attention of these latinas. It seems like I often at some point ask a Peruvian or Colombian date in a playful way "te gusta los chinos" (do you like the Chinese) and almost always the answer is a strong no, as in nooooooo, like disgust. That true even as there is a strong Chinese component in the Peruvian population. One can dislike such intolerance but reality is reality, laughing with the girl instead over that or just teasing her about her preferences is certainly better than giving her a lecture if you hope to score.
Colombianas of course for their part consider all Peruvians ugly and inferior. I respond to them that, no, not all of them and that the Peruvians are better in the bedroom and that gets their competitive fires going.
Here is an interesting case study on age and dating in Lima Peru. One of my pretty friends in Lima that I met on the beach years ago, is from a relatively poor family but a regular girl working an office job. She is now 22 and a relationship girl, her two serious boyfriends since I met her were locals, alpha-male types aged over 40. The last one got her preggers late last year and promptly dumped her. Since then she has been extra sweet to me sending me many texts and facebook messages unprompted, I think she may be looking at me as a provider in some way after she pops the kid in a couple of months. She has invited me to her house to meet her dad. I would not mind hitting it, she is a solid 8 and she didn't give it up to me before. We met several times after I had picked her up on the beach for informal dates and I always felt on the verge and if I could have gotten her back to my apartment she would have been mine, but either she was actually loyal to the bf or didn't have enough attraction to me. Her best friend is even hotter, a solid 9, if I had real serious game I'd like even more tap that.
I used to think that way too. I've seen things in my time here that made me re-think things. You see in the USA people tend to be fat, ugly and unkempt. Here they tend to be very good-looking and EXTREMELY concerned about their appearance. This isn't the plastic surgery capital of the world for nothing! That actually changes the whole sex and relationship dynamic, making people hornier on average and more willing to fuck around.
I've been observing my best friend here, who is a total horndog, drop dead gorgeous and gets laid almost daily with a different girl, often with them picking up the tab for everything. I used to think that, and that's the common wisdom about him, that he's just good for a fuck, and not long term material. That's what people SAY but. Watch the girls' actions. Many of them would MARRY the motherfucker if they had half a chance. That's the honest truth. Attraction is attraction, it doesn't have all these little compartments we think it does. It's just one big continuum. I don't know man. My experience in LA is not as extensive as your's so I will defer. I will, however disagree with your assertions that women in America are ugly. I have been all over LA but the prettiest Latin girls can be found in Miami International Airport.
I find the women in Los Angeles to be hottest I have ever seen, Vegas, per capita is not bad either. Go to any college campus or a good big city club and the girls are bangin'. I used to work in Mankato, MN and found the blondes there to be gorgeous without the Cali attitude. One of the best times in my life.
I guess your mileage may vary.
LittleTruths
03-15-11, 13:58
Her best friend is even hotter, a solid 9, if I had real serious game I'd like even more tap that.Or, I can be your wingman and do that for you; the four of us go out and when time comes for me to hit that 9 real bad I'll go "This is from Cuero99, beeyotch!" BAAAM! LOL.
Jokes apart, you guys are talking sense. Well done.
Bless
Here is an interesting case study on age and dating in Lima Peru. One of my pretty friends in Lima that I met on the beach years ago, is from a relatively poor family but a regular girl working an office job. She is now 22 and a relationship girl, her two serious boyfriends since I met her were locals, alpha-male types aged over 40. The last one got her preggers late last year and promptly dumped her. Since then she has been extra sweet to me sending me many texts and facebook messages unprompted, I think she may be looking at me as a provider in some way after she pops the kid in a couple of months. She has invited me to her house to meet her dad. I would not mind hitting it, she is a solid 8 and she didn't give it up to me before. We met several times after I had picked her up on the beach for informal dates and I always felt on the verge and if I could have gotten her back to my apartment she would have been mine, but either she was actually loyal to the bf or didn't have enough attraction to me. Her best friend is even hotter, a solid 9, if I had real serious game I'd like even more tap that.My heart always pains when I hear stories of young women being knocked up and abandoned by men. In these cultures they will never find a decent man as no man's mom will allow him to marry a woman with a child. She's 22 and will be denied a normal life with a normal man. The influence of the Catholic Church prevents the smart course of action from being taken.
This is an ideal opportunity for you though!
Some of my best mistresses have been 22-26 yo single moms. She will be highly appreciative of the stability which you can provide, and, for the next few years, as long as you are nice and respectful, she will esentially do whatever you want because she will fantasize about you marrying her and whisking her away to live in Pittsburgh or whereever. If you meet her family they will also reinforce this notion.
The attached photo is of a 21 yo single mom from the FSU. She is a working model in Italy and a legit 8 on anyone's scale. When we walk through the airport in Europe she turns people's heads. I sponsor her. Her aunt hooked her up with me thinking that I would marry her and support her extended family, including the aunt, after she determined me to be a man of means. When other members of the expat community or local men try to hit on her the entire family promptly shooes them away.
It's not free and I get SMSs every so often to help with tuition, doctor's bills, rent, etc. But in exchange for this I can call her whenever and fly her to me for days of raunchy sex and partying. She even brings her HOT model friends occasionly.
I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.
DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex. .
I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.
DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex.Now, that is utilizing some affirmative action.
My heart always pains when I hear stories of young women being knocked up and abandoned by men. In these cultures they will never find a decent man as no man's mom will allow him to marry a woman with a child. She's 22 and will be denied a normal life with a normal man. The influence of the Catholic Church prevents the smart course of action from being takenOn one hand you're right, of course it is sad in a way.
But if we mention the religion here, arn't they supposed to get married first, with a decent man who is approved by the parents that he can provide for the family, and only then to have sex and babies? This is how it is done in Central Asia in traditional families. I'm sure other religions have the same idea.
Instead, those girls fuck around with broke ass boyfriends, eventually get pregnant by somebody, and of course the baby's father is gone.
Now these single moms start taking advantage of gringos charging them a lot of money and requiring wearing condoms for what they used to give out for free and without condoms to local jobless motherphuckers.
All of a sudden these young mothers became smart!
So in the end we get a fair situation.
Bango Cheito
03-15-11, 17:28
Tall is also generally an advantage anywhere, but me I'm 6'3" (191cm) and a lot of girls here are like 150cm (5ft) and even under. That much of a height difference scares the fuck out of them sometimes, they literally get scared of disappearing under you in missionary.
Being fat is a BIG BIG BIG faux pas here in Colombia socially. People on other forums have made note of the fact that women who apply for jobs here have to attach photos with their resume. MEN HAVE TO DO THAT TOO! This is almost like ancient Greece, being fat is like an unforgivable sin here. Women practically kill themselves to look as good as possible, and THEY EXPECT MEN TO DO THE SAME. And the more you go down the social ladder the MORE intense the body-culture is, not the other way around. For that matter gold-digging is incredibly looked down upon in Colombian culture. Most North Americans come here to bottom-feed and so are blissfully unaware of this. They have no idea what a reject from society the girl they are hanging with is, and how their dealings with her represent the OPPOSITE of accepted standards of behavior in Colombian culture.
Every millimeter of stomach that I lose here means more opportunities with women, and the ones that do come around for me treat me better as well. I have now almost 3500 people on my Facebook account and 90% are female. I can put an ugly-looking profile pic up, and connect all day on chat, and nobody will say boo to me. I put a sexy-looking profile pic, and I can connect and guaranteed within an hour some girl I don't know is either adding me as a friend or chatting me up.
The other thing is dress. Especially if you're not in perfect shape, you need to wear clothes that hide it. I have a bad habit of going around dressed like the typical denizen of the Bronx where I used to live, where the ethic is jsut throw on whatever is most comfortable. That dries up pussy like you would not believe, especially here. BUT I personally think you can get away with wearing sports clothes if you get your body in perfect shape. Otherwise you need to find clothes that give the illusion of you being in the best shape possible. The other thing is that at least here in Bogota, guys with lots of hair go over better than in other places (head hair NOT body hair!).
As for the age difference, it depends on the girl. I've had girls pushing 30 who think I'm too old for them, and others who are 17 who don't give a fuck, or even PREFER older guys. It's not a universal thing at all.
Bango Cheito
03-15-11, 17:30
I don't know man. My experience in LA is not as extensive as your's so I will defer. I will, however disagree with your assertions that women in America are ugly. I have been all over LA but the prettiest Latin girls can be found in Miami International Airport.
I find the women in Los Angeles to be hottest I have ever seen, Vegas, per capita is not bad either. Go to any college campus or a good big city club and the girls are bangin'. I used to work in Mankato, MN and found the blondes there to be gorgeous without the Cali attitude. One of the best times in my life.
I guess your mileage may vary. Miami International Airport. I would explain that one with the "recent arrival" theory.
Back in the 90s when I first landed in NYC my friends and I would totally be scouting out the recent arrivals all the time. They weren't hard to spot, they were the women who hadn't turned fat yet and still dressed nice.
Now, that is utilizing some affirmative action.Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
DJ FourMoney
03-16-11, 03:40
Need a % breakdown on which is the black and which is the white half of the inter-racial couple.I don't think its equally split both ways, I would say its bias towards Black Men being married to White Women. No information on that, the original number if from a BBC Documentary.
DJ FourMoney
03-16-11, 03:57
dj,
i think that you are confused about my profession. i do not work for the military industrial complex per se. i worked for the emerging markets division of a huge multinational consulting firm for about five years. i am not some x-jarhead slinging a weapon. i have an ivy league degree, worked on wall street after graduation, and then migrated to the consulting world. i have spent about 60% of my time in conflict zones namely because of the dearth of qualified peers willing to go, the amount of authority granted, copious vacation time, and (for what this middle class kid from so cal considers) good money; however, the remaining time i have worked on donor funded projects in eastern europe, central asia, and non middle east. 90% of the projects i work on are economic / fiscal related no matter the location. i also worked for my previous employer on projects in the us.
i have met a few people from this site and my bonafides have been firmly established.
as i have been deemed sufficiently competent and reliable by various donor agencies, i have cut the middle man out and now work for various donor agencies directly on short and medium term contracts at a rate between $550—$1100 per day plus 4 star level hotel accommodation and an extra 2k-4k a month per diem. when i was a jr. guy i spent quite a bit of my time in the 'sandbox', but now, having paid my dues, i am pickier about the locations which i work. i used to take any project offered at whatever rate offered but those days are (hopefully) in my rearview mirror.
contrary to your assertions, i do have an address-three actually- a condo in sea, an apartment share in a recent eu country in the balkans, and a 5200 sq ft house in the usa that i recently purchased. but yes, consultants do spend the bulk of their time on the road and some may consider it a drawback of the profession.
unlike you, i had little scruples about making $$ when i had little, and am still hungry for a buck now that i have a few. hell, if there is a de minimus chance of indictment, i will probably take the contract.
when i was broke, ostracized by my "freinds", and living in my mom's house with no pussy i took a job doing menial labor in iraq which was humbling to say the least, but was better than being broke with no possibility of pussy.
i do not think nor do i recall saying that $$ is the only thing that matters when attracting women; however, in materialistic cultures like our own and in poor countries where stability is paramount it is the dominant factor. nevertheless one should not focus on $$. it's an effect rather than the cause of what attracts women. what attracts women is success. that's what you lack. losers are no more popular in bangladesh than they are in oslo.
in america, where the 'reach factor' is always in play it stops many men on this board from getting what they are entitled to. if a man is successful in his career but short and not overly engaging he may have a hard time getting a woman of comparable value. aw, especially when they are young, desire a successful, handsome, and entertaining mate. even though she is a 5, she thinks she can score a 7. and that 7 thinks she deserves no less than an 8. when in reality the 5 should be with 5 and the 7 with the 7. as they got older they get wiser, but unfortunately by that time they are no longer as desirable as they once were.
in poorer countries, the women are primarily concerned with stability above all else. this is where traveling poses the most value to some on this board. money can mask 'deficiencies' in looks and personality in the developing world.
you must note that the mentality in much of the developing world is completely different than in the west.
for instance, with russian women, because of the instability of their community, they value stability above all else. it does not matter what one looks like or what one's personality is, it only matters what you one provide for her as a husband and boyfriend. these women are taught from an early age 'the prettier you are the better man you will have; the better man you have the better your life will be. ' the man is viewed primarily through the lens of a provider. that's what a man is for. to provide for his woman. if one is a good provider, as goga fung indicated, one can have many girlfriends, mistresses, and generally do shit that would earn one divorce papers in the civilized world.
because you can't provide for yourself let alone a pretty gal, you have little chance with these women.
in scandinavia, in america, most of the women can equate success with something other than a car and the area code of a home. for instance, if one is a successful artist, a materialistic american woman will think 'great, but how can that pay the bills? ' while a person who lives in a small homogenous liberal rich socialist country will think, 'great, i think his unique passion is cool'.
just as some aw erroneously conflate success with $$ you should not believe that scandinavians equate a lack of success with attractiveness.
that tuition for that landmine course i turned you onto would have been paid by the firm. but if you quit within a year of graduation-as i am sure many thinking people do-you would be liable to repay the firm for the tuition. another fellow i turned on to this job worked for a year in africa and afghanistan, claimed some bs mental disorder, and now lives of 5k a month disability in manillla. i did mistake you for warbucks who is a "jarhead" but he knows that. i knew from previous post, you as i come from middle class background.
as i said a made a change so i can afford a) better woman be) a family by that woman. i rid myself of what debt i did have, still have one of those stupid federal student loans to get rid of but that's all now. i am not chasing any women i am not in a economic position to do so, but what your saying assumes i'll always been in this position and will always be in this position, that is not true.
i think with it i have found something considering as much time i as i spend in front of a pc. having built my own pc's, being mechanically inclined and learning more about my data recovery, security issues, networks, etc.
i don't remember all the details about landline school but i think it was 12-15k and i don't remember any firm saying they would pick up the bill are you sure you sent me the correct information and not somebody else?
when i'm done with this, i'll see about going a bit further, but i also think i want to go to tuner school as well, yes that's automotive tuner school and one exist. i'm a complete car nut, but i can't stand getting dirty anymore so tuning is one way to stay clean and still have fun, i can do it at my own pace and my next car could be used as my promotional tool.
finally i was never about the "hustle", lying about mental disorders is not something i would do. another friend suggested that as well, i can't do it.
DJ FourMoney
03-16-11, 04:06
My heart always pains when I hear stories of young women being knocked up and abandoned by men. In these cultures they will never find a decent man as no man's mom will allow him to marry a woman with a child. She's 22 and will be denied a normal life with a normal man. The influence of the Catholic Church prevents the smart course of action from being taken.
This is an ideal opportunity for you though!
Some of my best mistresses have been 22-26 yo single moms. She will be highly appreciative of the stability which you can provide, and, for the next few years, as long as you are nice and respectful, she will esentially do whatever you want because she will fantasize about you marrying her and whisking her away to live in Pittsburgh or whereever. If you meet her family they will also reinforce this notion.
The attached photo is of a 21 yo single mom from the FSU. She is a working model in Italy and a legit 8 on anyone's scale. When we walk through the airport in Europe she turns people's heads. I sponsor her. Her aunt hooked her up with me thinking that I would marry her and support her extended family, including the aunt, after she determined me to be a man of means. When other members of the expat community or local men try to hit on her the entire family promptly shooes them away.
It's not free and I get SMSs every so often to help with tuition, doctor's bills, rent, etc. But in exchange for this I can call her whenever and fly her to me for days of raunchy sex and partying. She even brings her HOT model friends occasionly.
I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.
DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex. . You know good and well I am not a hater.
I've been to Europe before, I shall return with a plan in hand.
Some of my best mistresses have been 22-26 yo single moms. She will be highly appreciative of the stability which you can provide, and, for the next few years, as long as you are nice and respectful, she will esentially do whatever you want because she will fantasize about you marrying her and whisking her away to live in Pittsburgh or whereever. If you meet her family they will also reinforce this notion.
The attached photo is of a 21 yo single mom from the FSU. She is a working model in Italy and a legit 8 on anyone's scale. When we walk through the airport in Europe she turns people's heads. I sponsor her. Her aunt hooked her up with me thinking that I would marry her and support her extended family, including the aunt, after she determined me to be a man of means. When other members of the expat community or local men try to hit on her the entire family promptly shooes them away.
It's not free and I get SMSs every so often to help with tuition, doctor's bills, rent, etc. But in exchange for this I can call her whenever and fly her to me for days of raunchy sex and partying. She even brings her HOT model friends occasionly.
I am bored in Asia and think I will call for her now.
DJ, my friend, the fruits of your so called military industrial complex. . Very nice one, is that a popsicle? I get the sense she is quite skilled in the oral arts.
Anyway who knows what will happen with this single-mom to be, we get along nice, lots of laughs and smiles and she is one of those always positive and happy girls, but she is a little immature and I could see myself getting annoyed and tired of her quickly if I spent too much time with her.
Incidentally I turned down the latest RFM from the favorita yesterday, ROI would be getting out of balance and it was time to say no. But she digs me and was not upset about it and the relationship will continue when I return to Lima, she just had an opportunity I guess. Mom-to-be knows I am banging favorita, the women can sense anyway when you are sexually satisfied with someone so no need to say too much. As for favorita she just knows in general I'm uncommitted but I don't fill her in on details, I like to visit Colombia like I did 4 times last year and enjoy what is on offer there. It's nice that I don't have to explain myself or lie like I would if I was in a traditional relationship or closed marriage.
On one hand you're right, of course it is sad in a way.
But if we mention the religion here, arn't they supposed to get married first, with a decent man who is approved by the parents that he can provide for the family, and only then to have sex and babies? This is how it is done in Central Asia in traditional families. I'm sure other religions have the same idea.
Instead, those girls fuck around with broke ass boyfriends, eventually get pregnant by somebody, and of course the baby's father is gone.
Now these single moms start taking advantage of gringos charging them a lot of money and requiring wearing condoms for what they used to give out for free and without condoms to local jobless motherphuckers.
All of a sudden these young mothers became smart!
So in the end we get a fair situation. Yeah, I'm not really imputing fault, just commenting on the lack of opportunity these girls will have.
Of course: they made a dumb decsion and now must suffer the concequences of their poor choices.
When I was 22 I made plenty of dumb decsions but they did not damn me to a particular lot in life.
Sigh, daughters, may I never have one.
But really man, are there that many gringos in these places? There are more single moms than sex tourists in Colombia. And in your country, can gringos even get visas to go there? LOL.
Tall is also generally an advantage anywhere, but me I'm 6'3" (191cm) and a lot of girls here are like 150cm (5ft) and even under. That much of a height difference scares the fuck out of them sometimes, they literally get scared of disappearing under you in missionary.
Being fat is a BIG BIG BIG faux pas here in Colombia socially. People on other forums have made note of the fact that women who apply for jobs here have to attach photos with their resume. MEN HAVE TO DO THAT TOO! This is almost like ancient Greece, being fat is like an unforgivable sin here. Women practically kill themselves to look as good as possible, and THEY EXPECT MEN TO DO THE SAME. And the more you go down the social ladder the MORE intense the body-culture is, not the other way around. For that matter gold-digging is incredibly looked down upon in Colombian culture. Most North Americans come here to bottom-feed and so are blissfully unaware of this. They have no idea what a reject from society the girl they are hanging with is, and how their dealings with her represent the OPPOSITE of accepted standards of behavior in Colombian culture.
Every millimeter of stomach that I lose here means more opportunities with women, and the ones that do come around for me treat me better as well. I have now almost 3500 people on my Facebook account and 90% are female. I can put an ugly-looking profile pic up, and connect all day on chat, and nobody will say boo to me. I put a sexy-looking profile pic, and I can connect and guaranteed within an hour some girl I don't know is either adding me as a friend or chatting me up.
The other thing is dress. Especially if you're not in perfect shape, you need to wear clothes that hide it. I have a bad habit of going around dressed like the typical denizen of the Bronx where I used to live, where the ethic is jsut throw on whatever is most comfortable. That dries up pussy like you would not believe, especially here. BUT I personally think you can get away with wearing sports clothes if you get your body in perfect shape. Otherwise you need to find clothes that give the illusion of you being in the best shape possible. The other thing is that at least here in Bogota, guys with lots of hair go over better than in other places (head hair NOT body hair!).
As for the age difference, it depends on the girl. I've had girls pushing 30 who think I'm too old for them, and others who are 17 who don't give a fuck, or even PREFER older guys. It's not a universal thing at all. People can't control their height nor their looks. In any case, the kind of panty snapping good lucks you refer to is relatively rare. If one is blessed to look like Matthew McCounough, Ricky Martin, or Tom Brady great. But not many of us on that board are in this category thus we must focus on what we can control.
Besides, being a dandy is difficult to do when broke. Once a man hits 30 that movie star physique requires no less than two hours a day in the gym five days a week (and not lollygagging around the gym but one hour of weights with another 30-60 minutes of HIT cardio) AND, perhaps most importantly, a diet of friggin chicken breasts and leaves with no beer.
I guess being good looking and broke is being better than being ugly and broke but being cute is not as important as other qualities are for a man.
Yes, in Colombia the girls spend all their money on looks so they can be attractive to a rich man so he will give them shit. They only have their looks to offer as they can't advance themselves through their own gumption. The poor do not control their own destiny.
RE Bottomfeeders: You are correct. Sex tourists and many other expats do fuck with lower rungs of society and many of them don't even realize it. But so what? Most of these men are thilled to stick their dick into any pussy and are quite content to screw a pretty illiterate 20 yo barrio girl. Such transactions seem to fulfill everyone's needs.
I look at the SOBs at Scott's bar at Nana and can't believe they are happy with long term relationships with bar girls.
Whatever though.
Live and Let live.
RE Bottomfeeders: You are correct. Sex tourists and many other expats do fuck with lower rungs of society and many of them don't even realize it. But so what? Most of these men are thilled to stick their dick into any pussy and are quite content to screw a pretty illiterate 20 yo barrio girl. Such transactions seem to fulfill everyone's needs.
I look at the SOBs at Scott's bar at Nana and can't believe they are happy with long term relationships with bar girls.
Whatever though.
Live and Let live. I know the girls that I fuck in LAm are by and large lower-tier, both the regular office girls in Lima and the prepagos and poor students in Medellin. But I don't care, they are sweet, sexy, appreciative and sometimes even make good conversation which makes for a potential keeper if her performance in the bedroom is on par. They may be financially poor, some are hard workers like my favorita and others are lazy and live purely off their female qualities and the men willing to pay for that. But in all cases of the ones that interest me, the humble beauty and natural sexuality of these women certainly make them incomparable to low strata AW (aka trailer trash).
To sum, my parameters in prospecting in LAm are: 1. How hot she is? And 2. Her potential availability and desire to have sex with me, likely with a little prodding needed ($). If a candidate is upper-middle class and attractive to boot, parameter 2 becomes much more unlikely thus I am better off focusing on lower-strata girls.
Mr Enternational
03-16-11, 13:43
In my case I find the Peruvian and Colombian chicas love that I am very white and have green eyes. I can't count how many times I have heard "tus ojos son lindos" (your eyes are beautiful). And I agree that a broke-ass guy can get laid anywhere with a hot girl if he has the right style personality and look for his environment. My negatives, lack of height and athletic build and age in middle 40s don't hurt me much in LAm, but I do look much younger and can pass for 35.LOL. I'm in Peru right now. What I always get here and Colombia is,"I love your skin. I always wanted to have a black baby." Hell I'm not even dark. And this is from non-pros. I rarely deal with pros in LA & SA. But like you say everything is style and personality. I was sitting in the airport in Tokyo a couple of days ago and a Japanese girl came up to me and asked where I got my t-shirt. It had Thai script on the front and English on the back. What kind of line was that? It's a damn t-shirt. But I rode it out. Just so happens she works at a university in Philadelphia. We exchanged info and will see each other soon.
LittleTruths
03-16-11, 20:14
yeah, i'm not really imputing fault, just commenting on the lack of opportunity these girls will have.
of course: they made a dumb decsion and now must suffer the concequences of their poor choices.
when i was 22 i made plenty of dumb decsions but they did not damn me to a particular lot in life.
sigh, daughters, may i never have one. from what i have seen it is only the dullest, stupidest and most ignorant girls coming from ignorant and / or disfunctional families who end up knocked up by the cat with the boots and then have to suck it up for the rest of their lives.
i have no sympathy for none of them really.
it is that kind of girl that consistently came up telling me the most amusing inanities. e. g. one that i was having dinner with, in bolivia, she gave me some head the night before and i took her out planning to hit that thing more thoroughly after dinner, so the gal was yapping away and believe it or not she had the guts to ask whether i was going to marry her. lol. sure, by 26 if i'd married every gal who gave me head i'd have had around 200 wives already, whiskey tango foxtrot was wrong with that beeyotch?
a bit of a different story perhaps in africa, if you consider that in many countries abortion is illegal and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is consistently big, but still, the level of ignorance is sky-high. with all the stories i've heard i still can't say i have ever met one single lady with a baby whose daddy wasn't around and thought of her as of a great girl.
you do your bed you sleep in it, i have no babies here and there and rightly so, why is that so? sure it isn't because i don't know how to drunkenly bust a nut into some even drunker dumbass chick's guts. lol
Chocha Monger
03-17-11, 13:06
from what i have seen it is only the dullest, stupidest and most ignorant girls coming from ignorant and / or disfunctional families who end up knocked up by the cat with the boots and then have to suck it up for the rest of their lives.
i have no sympathy for none of them really.
it is that kind of girl that consistently came up telling me the most amusing inanities. e. g. one that i was having dinner with, in bolivia, she gave me some head the night before and i took her out planning to hit that thing more thoroughly after dinner, so the gal was yapping away and believe it or not she had the guts to ask whether i was going to marry her. lol. sure, by 26 if i'd married every gal who gave me head i'd have had around 200 wives already, whiskey tango foxtrot was wrong with that beeyotch?
a bit of a different story perhaps in africa, if you consider that in many countries abortion is illegal and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is consistently big, but still, the level of ignorance is sky-high. with all the stories i've heard i still can't say i have ever met one single lady with a baby whose daddy wasn't around and thought of her as of a great girl.
you do your bed you sleep in it, i have no babies here and there and rightly so, why is that so? sure it isn't because i don't know how to drunkenly bust a nut into some even drunker dumbass chick's guts. loli hear you. it's a lot harder to work behind someone else's mess. after they get a nut busted in them and been abandoned a lot of these girls get bitter and swear to fuck over the next man that comes along. after that their sole aim is to get someone to take care of them and their roaches. they never ever really get over the dude that filled their guts because the little gift he left behind is always there to remind them. it's best to turn something out fresh off the press. it's much easier to write a new chapter on a blank page.
LittleTruths
03-18-11, 00:09
I hear you. It's a lot harder to work behind someone else's mess. After they get a nut busted in them and been abandoned a lot of these girls get bitter and swear to fuck over the next man that comes along. After that their sole aim is to get someone to take care of them and their roaches. They never ever really get over the dude that filled their guts because the little gift he left behind is always there to remind them. It's best to turn something out fresh off the press. It's much easier to write a new chapter on a blank page.Amen to that. Pain seems to be more contageous than love is. When somebody receives some serious pain such as abuse, chances are that not only that that pain will hurt the person there and then, but stick inside of them and start fermenting and developing in twisted ways untill it grows and poisons the victims altogether turning them into offenders themselves. So eventually they start giving back to who's around the shit they've had to deal with themselves before. It's a legacy that breeds more and more pain as it passes from hand to hand and leads to nowhere good. Lampant example are child molesters, who as far as I've heard all (or the great majority anyways) have a past history of having been victim of the same kind of horror they inflict on their own victims. God forbid.
Bless
I saw dudes happily shell out $300 to fuck a barely passable looking white chick and pass over a gorgeous black girl for $80.
Last time I was in Montreal, I went to an incall and they had a bunch of real average looking white chicks and a brown-skinned stunner (obvious choice for me, hands down). My favorite spot here in Bogota has a whole bunch of real good looking chicks of all styles, shapes and colors but they have one former beauty queen who is real dark skinned, stands out like a motherfucker even among all the beauties there. Her rates are among the cheapest. I just thank the Goddess I don't have any ingrained cultural prejudices and can see the forest for the trees. . But to me the phenomenon is world-wide. This is slightly off topic, but if you could tell me where in NYC I can get gorgeous black chicks for $80, I would be extremely grateful. I would jump in my car and go there every week. I live in the DC area and the girls I see on Backpage and sites like that are plain ugly, with a few exceptions.
Bango Cheito
03-18-11, 07:53
This is slightly off topic, but if you could tell me where in NYC I can get gorgeous black chicks for $80, I would be extremely grateful. I would jump in my car and go there every week. I live in the DC area and the girls I see on Backpage and sites like that are plain ugly, with a few exceptions.When I lived in NYC, partially thanks to this board and other places. I hooked up with the underground party scene starting in 2001. But by the time I finally more or less permanently left in 2008 it was totally dead. I'm out of the loop now and so is most of the great talent that used to work that circuit. Sorry.
Bango Cheito
03-18-11, 08:13
People can't control their height nor their looks. In any case, the kind of panty snapping good lucks you refer to is relatively rare. If one is blessed to look like Matthew McCounough, Ricky Martin, or Tom Brady great. But not many of us on that board are in this category thus we must focus on what we can control.
Besides, being a dandy is difficult to do when broke. Once a man hits 30 that movie star physique requires no less than two hours a day in the gym five days a week (and not lollygagging around the gym but one hour of weights with another 30-60 minutes of HIT cardio) AND, perhaps most importantly, a diet of friggin chicken breasts and leaves with no beer.
I guess being good looking and broke is being better than being ugly and broke but being cute is not as important as other qualities are for a man.
Yes, in Colombia the girls spend all their money on looks so they can be attractive to a rich man so he will give them shit. They only have their looks to offer as they can't advance themselves through their own gumption. The poor do not control their own destiny.
RE Bottomfeeders: You are correct. Sex tourists and many other expats do fuck with lower rungs of society and many of them don't even realize it. But so what? Most of these men are thilled to stick their dick into any pussy and are quite content to screw a pretty illiterate 20 yo barrio girl. Such transactions seem to fulfill everyone's needs.
I look at the SOBs at Scott's bar at Nana and can't believe they are happy with long term relationships with bar girls.
Whatever though.
Live and Let live. EVERYBODY controls their own destiny, no matter their socioeconomic situation, no matter which "world" they live in (I think the US is officially part of the 3rd world by now by any reasonable standard) , no matter their external circumstances. Willpower is the greatest power of all.
I moved here to Colombia at age 35, looking every bit of 40. I'm now almost 38 and look 25! Before the year is over I will look 21, without resorting to any invasive procedures, surgery etc, . Part of the problem is the food supply in the USA is utterly shot to hell, and it makes people fat and sick. There are other factors as well.
Those movie star good looks are EARNED, they don't just happen to someone. In fact, nobody looks that good without working on it. My gorgeous friend I keep referring to spends his last dime on clothes, hair etc. And I've seen him even go as far as putting foundation and eye-liner on when he goes out, not enough to really be noticed, but enough to smooth over the face and bring out the eyes a bit. And it WORKS! Can't argue with success.
Once again the problem here is the typical American mentality with that fucked up Protestant work ethic, the idea that you really need to work your ass off in order to be an acceptable member of society, and overwork to the point where it chokes off every other area of your existence is acceptable and appropriate as a lifestyle. That mentality exists here but it's not as prevalent as it is up north. Which ALSO explains why men and women are so much more attractive here. The thing is, you can be broke and survive a lot better here than there. And it WORKS.
That's the good news actually, being good looking is well within the reach of many, and even a decade or more of bad lifestyle can be undone with 6 months of applying yourself. Most people are lazy, it doesn't take much to distinguish onesself from them. Besides, Mother Nature wants ALL of us to be attractive to the opposite sex, we are the product of millions of years of successful evolution, WE are the ones who want to spit in her face and let ourselves degenerate into blobs.
Protein and "leaves". That's the diet Nature intended for us. If you really think about it why would you even want to eat some garbage out of a package if fresh natural food is available?
Colombians tend to totally take care of themselves all week, then they go out drinking and dancing all weekend. The dancing burns the calories of the alcohol, helps you get laid, and teaches you about human nature while you're at it. If you don't dance, life is REALLY passing you by in ways you can't even imagine.
If girls here really were looking for money as option #1, then they would never give my friend the time of day, and they wouldn't look at my broke ass either, even less. Yet, the better looking I get, the more I take care of myself, the more interest I get. Money cannot buy that 100. Those kisses you get from a girl who is with you for the money are not HER kisses.
Chocha Monger
03-19-11, 13:46
http://www.mydaily.com/2011/03/13/manning-up-kay-hymowitz-men-boys-pre-adults/?icid=main
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ThatGuy865
03-20-11, 05:42
Colombians tend to totally take care of themselves all week, then they go out drinking and dancing all weekend. The dancing burns the calories of the alcohol, helps you get laid, and teaches you about human nature while you're at it. If you don't dance, life is REALLY passing you by in ways you can't even imagine.By that theory blacks in america been on that game since the beginning of time. Cause blacks as we know have a reputation for being good dancers. So a good looking black from america should clean up there.
If girls here really were looking for money as option #1, then they would never give my friend the time of day, and they wouldn't look at my broke ass either, even less. Yet, the better looking I get, the more I take care of myself, the more interest I get. Money cannot buy that 100. Those kisses you get from a girl who is with you for the money are not HER kisses.There are alot of poor guys on welfare in America screwing plenty of women. Same with trailor park dwellers. Or the poor in projects in NY. So then I guess AW arent looking for money either. Its just women of their same level of income or lower.
If you stated you were dating a lot of beautiful young wealthy women from wealthy families. Not just the occasional I dated a lawyer one time. But that you regularly easily date upper middle class to wealthy women. Then a statement. Colombian women don't see money is believeable.
As long as you have USA citizenship, I don't care how much you make in real currency. Just that citizenship makes you at minimum, middle class, if not upper middle class in every country in the WORLD.
That is the perception no matter what the reality is. And as we all know perception is reality.
A lot of guys would tell you hat what you are doing in Colombia. If you do that in the USA. You get the same quality women. That's working out to get in shape, dressing well, and doing all you can to look your best. And like you said. You'll attract women. Because there are women EVERYWHERE who like good looking and guys who take care of themselves. So they give them a try. Its the same the WORLD over.
And don't fool yourself the food in Colombia is no better. The food one eats is a choice. America has organic foods at every store.
If you want to eat healthy you can. If a person want to eat fast food they can.
Farmers in Colombia use pesticides just like anywhere else. Especially the industrial farms.
http://www.mydaily.com/2011/03/13/manning-up-kay-hymowitz-men-boys-pre-adults/?icid=main
%7Chp-laptop%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%7C206559Sure, its a real phenonemon. Seems to me what has happened as the pool of desireable AW has dwindled due to american cultural factors including poor diet and feminization and equal rights in the workplace up to the managerial levels (which amounts actually to masculinization and decreased desireability of these women). Then add the increasing difficulty in new graduates in finding professional work in a crap economy, and more and more young men realize the futility of the whole thing and are giving up and retreating to their basements with WOW and porn.
These days it is a only a quite small minority of young adult AM, the general categories being the most physically fit and beautiful (the Bango Cheitos) , the most natural socials, and the most technically brilliant (young Hacker News types) , that seem to have hope of finding a place to get good rewards out life and reasonable satisfaction from the opposite sex. And also a few of inherited wealth can use their money and status to access poon but they have their own issues if they don't have other things going for them. The rest of young AM, the majority, have little hope or opportunity and either end up settling sadly for some poor quality overweight or ugly woman, or a series of short or long term but equally unfulfilling hookups with same, or otherwise largely retreat into the extended preadulthood noted above.
If I was in that situation and just didn't feel I had what it takes to lay a decent quality woman, decent to me being 6. 5 and not fat at bare minimum, and didn't know about or have the means to travel to lands of easier and better pussy, I might prefer option 2 as I've never been able to fuck obese or ugly chicks let alone consider them for serious relationships. Porn is not all bad, but perhaps for me the fact that I can enjoy the real thing from time to time makes it more enjoyable- if I was never getting laid perhaps I'd feel more resentment about the male performers than anything else that I can't be a man like him. But I have never been into computer games.
http://www.mydaily.com/2011/03/13/manning-up-kay-hymowitz-men-boys-pre-adults/?icid=main
%7Chp-laptop%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%7C206559A story written about a thing that calls itself Kay Hymowitz is one that begs to be ignored. Enough said
Some probaby have already seen this. An interesting video summarizing a Typical American Relationship:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj3CCz6fKZU&feature=related
Also look at the comments people leave there.
A story written about a thing that calls itself Kay Hymowitz is one that begs to be ignored. Enough saidSure she is a nasty feminist with an agenda and I don't like her, but still there is some 50% or so of truth in that article.
Bango Cheito
03-23-11, 06:58
1) People who put effort into being good dancers, who bother to learn the steps and who spend the hours in front of a mirror are good dancers. They could be black or white. Your statement smacks of racism. There's nothing in black people's DNA that prioritizes dancing over mathematics :P the subculture in which one lives in may be a different story. Colombians are by and large NOT black but are better dancers than most Americans of ANY color, because it's a big part of the culture here. That's actually the typical fucked-up gringo attitude that will get you nowhere fast here."I'm black so I have it in my blood". Then you come down here and the locals are dancing CIRCLES around you :P.
2) I date in all social circles, I have no prejudices. The one thing I see is that the lower-class a woman is here, the MORE she is into how you look. For that matter, something else lost on the average North American but very much present down here, class has NOTHING to do with your bank balance. And LESS to do with your passport. Class is a completely different concept. Having a blue passport here means you're a foreinger and they envy your ability to go over the world without a visa. It might make you a conversation piece. If you think it buys you admiration and respect in any way shape or form you are really fucking fooling yourself. It may possibly generate the perception that you have lots of money and start people thinking about the best way to separate you from it. That's about it son.
3) The "same quality women" don't exist in the USA. And it's really really ignorant to claim the food isn't any worse. Look at the goddamn life expetancy. It's dropped by 9 years in one generation. That's SCARYYYY. I'm on a regimen now because the 7 inchest I lost off my waist aren't enough down here. They're more than enough to put me officially in the "good looking" category anywhere in the low-standards having USA but here women expect guys to be in REAL good shape. Which brings me to.
4) I've always gone on the record here as saying Colombian women are NOT easy prey. They are actually famous in Latin America for being the women who most make men jump through flaming hoops before giving anything in return. I totally concede and agree that I could get laid far easier in NYC or Miami or LA than here in Bogota. But now that I live here WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT TO? That would be like going back to Mickey D's after tasting the filet mignon.
By that theory blacks in america been on that game since the beginning of time. Cause blacks as we know have a reputation for being good dancers. So a good looking black from america should clean up there.
There are alot of poor guys on welfare in America screwing plenty of women. Same with trailor park dwellers. Or the poor in projects in NY. So then I guess AW arent looking for money either. Its just women of their same level of income or lower.
If you stated you were dating a lot of beautiful young wealthy women from wealthy families. Not just the occasional I dated a lawyer one time. But that you regularly easily date upper middle class to wealthy women. Then a statement. Colombian women don't see money is believeable.
As long as you have USA citizenship, I don't care how much you make in real currency. Just that citizenship makes you at minimum, middle class, if not upper middle class in every country in the WORLD.
That is the perception no matter what the reality is. And as we all know perception is reality.
A lot of guys would tell you hat what you are doing in Colombia. If you do that in the USA. You get the same quality women. That's working out to get in shape, dressing well, and doing all you can to look your best. And like you said. You'll attract women. Because there are women EVERYWHERE who like good looking and guys who take care of themselves. So they give them a try. Its the same the WORLD over.
And don't fool yourself the food in Colombia is no better. The food one eats is a choice. America has organic foods at every store.
If you want to eat healthy you can. If a person want to eat fast food they can.
Farmers in Colombia use pesticides just like anywhere else. Especially the industrial farms.
ThatGuy865
03-23-11, 13:27
Oh so you can say Colombians dance culturally and its cool. I say black americans dance culturally so they would fall in the same category. And that smacks as racism. Wow.
2) I date in all social circles, I have no prejudices. The one thing I see is that the lower-class a woman is here, the MORE she is into how you look. For that matter, something else lost on the average North American but very much present down here, class has NOTHING to do with your bank balance. And LESS to do with your passport. Class is a completely different concept. Having a blue passport here means you're a foreinger and they envy your ability to go over the world without a visa. It might make you a conversation piece. If you think it buys you admiration and respect in any way shape or form you are really fucking fooling yourself. It may possibly generate the perception that you have lots of money and start people thinking about the best way to separate you from it. That's about it son.They don't seek money and LOOKS are SO important to COLOMBIAN women. Why is Colombia becoming a Mongering destination. And GUYS. OLD FAT GUYS are getting young non pros there too. How is that? You can read it on a lot of threads here.
And those party's where the colombian women go 100 to 10 guys seeking husbands. Mainly OLD OUT OF SHAPE AMERICAN's. Oh yeah. Its not because the American has MONEY. Right. Oh yeah. The guys must be great dancers. Yeah that's it.
I have NEVER seen an ad ANYWHERE where 100 AW will meet 10 foreign men in a party situation to seek husbands.
3) The "same quality women" don't exist in the USA. And it's really really ignorant to claim the food isn't any worse. Look at the goddamn life expetancy. It's dropped by 9 years in one generation. That's SCARYYYY. I'm on a regimen now because the 7 inchest I lost off my waist aren't enough down here. They're more than enough to put me officially in the "good looking" category anywhere in the low-standards having USA but here women expect guys to be in REAL good shape. Which brings me to.1st your info is wrong. Its like. 9 of a year. Insignificant in the real scope of things. And the latest report now says Life expectancy for Americans is at an all time high. So its constantly changing.
But one thing that has never changed. Its ALWAYS HIGHER THAN COLOMBIA. Even with so call "Bad food". In the USA life expectancy worst times it still beats Colombia.
Decline:
http://news.discovery.com/human/united-states-life-expectancy-101210.html
Increase: more recent
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j2Ppkn_QYFAMBIh7_YrU9AZ5pLkg?docId=5551c2f57e5e4363828bfb40ecd99e64
And if you had that regime in the USA you just might have got some quality pussy there too. Obviously you didn't. Its there?
4) I've always gone on the record here as saying Colombian women are NOT easy prey. They are actually famous in Latin America for being the women who most make men jump through flaming hoops before giving anything in return. I totally concede and agree that I could get laid far easier in NYC or Miami or LA than here in Bogota. But now that I live here WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT TO? That would be like going back to Mickey D's after tasting the filet mignon.To each his own. That's one man's opinion. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I never dispute who is better than who. I only know there are "Good looking" with "great personality" AW just as there are in every country.
Just as there are FAT people in every country. And obesity is rising all over the WORLD in industrial countries.
ThatGuy865
03-23-11, 13:29
Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/20/worlds-best-city-for-men-new-york-city-no-1-in-survey/
IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN!
Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/20/worlds-best-city-for-men-new-york-city-no-1-in-survey/
IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN! Did they mean for homosexual men.
Ok, I'm not saying NYC is bad. It's good in some ways, although expensive and way too metrosexual and homosexual.
Strange in the list of the "best for men" cities they did not include Moscow and St. Petersburg, Kiev, etc. But included places such Sanfrancisco, Kiyoto, Itsanbul. Does not make sense at all.
Member #2041
03-23-11, 17:07
Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/20/worlds-best-city-for-men-new-york-city-no-1-in-survey/
IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN! If you accept their value judgments. Personally, I might vote for Pattaya.
Bango Cheito
03-23-11, 17:31
"Colombian" is not a race, nor an ethnicity, it's a NATIONALITY, and also a geographic region. So you could say it smacks of nationalism :P Something like ability to dance is heavily dependent on where and how you were brought up, my whole point. It's not a "color" or DNA thing. So if you're black and dance good, it's a cultural thing. But being black or white is a purely physical phenomenon, which has nothing to do with culture.
Unfortunately I can't find the link to the study I read that talked about the decline and showed why it's actually more severe than the major news outlets let on. I'll have to call up the people who sent it to me and re-send the link.
The whole debate is about just that. People on this forum often think that Colombian women don't care about looks at all, that other things are important to them, becuase they don't know what time it is down here. I was precisely talking about those kinds of situations.
1) The women that go to those kinds of "husband seeking" events are the absolute bottom of the barrel here, they are desparate women who can't find their niche in society and are generally considered rejects and expendable. Hooking up with some fat foreigner is usually the last straw for them. They just happen to be better looking than your average AW because people here on average are so much better looking.
2) I never said money doesn't attract women. Gold diggers exist all over the place. What I said is attracting women by looks and other factors is actually more efficacious than attracting them by money, because with money you can lube a girl up, but you'll never get her wet to the extent that she'll get wet by seeing a guy that really is attractive to her five senses! Everything else is secondary. For example, I'm not as attractive as my friend, but I have a great voice. I will get women into bed with me by singing to them, but if I were in better shape it would be an even better experience.
3) Women are complex, and they tend to have different aspects that get presented in front of different people, depending on the situation. Men tend to be very one-dimensional and invariable in this manner. For example, I have a female friend who I met through my gorgeous male friend. She's a very open minded girl and very into sex and uninhibited. But that doesn't mean the whole world gets to see that part of her. Some guys she rejects outright (could be for one of many reasons, she's actually a bit of an exception that she really doesn't look for the Adonis type, but the guy could be too unkempt, or just too stupid, or not interesting enough, whatever). Some guys she will eventually fuck but make them take her out a couple times first while she makes the decision. Some guys she will fuck but instead of getting them to take her out she just demands money outright (the guys always seem to find the money hehehehe). Some guys she will fuck without expecting anything in return (the value of the sex to her is equal in this case, I fall into this category with her). Some guys (2 of my friends) she will pay their bus fare to come to her town (5 hours out of Bogota) , or even charge a local dude for sex and use the money to come and visit.
So these are the grades of attraction I'm talking about. Money is a definite factor, but if you're really on your game you don't even NEED money. To each his own, but I know where I want to be in the food chain. I want the women to conform to MY schedule, not viceversa. I want them paying their way and rearranging their schedule to be with me, not viceversa. I want them to see the value in me from jump, and act on it.
Another example, a girl who is MILDLY attracted to you will play the moral card and tell you things like "I want to know this is serious and that I'm not wasting my time with you". A girl who is WILDLY attracted to you, YOU set the terms of the relationship and she WILL accept them, as long as it means she gets to fuck you!
My big success story of last year was a girl in another town outside of Bogota who I met on a gig there. I made a big impression on her, and we wound up on a 2 month roller coaster ride. Best sex I've ever had, hands down. She charges up to 2 million a night, and no foreigner would even be able to enter via those channels, because she keeps a really low profile in that aspect. I'm very proud that I was able to land a dime piece like that who fucks better than many porn stars, without outlaying any money (I paid my transport and hotel room, she paid food and taxis etc in town) , especially since I'm still on the fat side. Part of it was the singing again, part of it was I landed a girl who isn't as strongly physically repulsed by fat as most women are here (as is my friend the example in #3). Still, it took till the 4th date before we fucked. If I were in perfect shape and a better dresser, guaranteed she woulda given up the pussy on the 1st date!
As for my regimen, I've had periods in both countries where I was more serious and disciplined and periods where I lazed off. The difference between being disciplined with the lifestyle and not is FAR less than the difference between the two environments and their general effect on my health. And it's a difference that shows up not only in my appearance but in my bloodwork as well!
I managed things much more differently in the US because first I was in a monogamous marriage and then when I broke it off, I still moved in many of the same circles and had to do the same thing girls here do, keep a low profile and maintain 6 degrees between my fun activities and the rest of my life. I was also employed by the catholic church up there, which meant a certain degree of discretion was in order. Here I'm employed by a bunch of hippies so I can pretty much be in the open here as long as I don't bring the orgy to the workplace. Plus when I WAS still married here to my 2nd wife it was an open marriage, so no secrets there!
Oh so you can say Colombians dance culturally and its cool. I say black americans dance culturally so they would fall in the same category. And that smacks as racism. Wow.
They don't seek money and LOOKS are SO important to COLOMBIAN women. Why is Colombia becoming a Mongering destination. And GUYS. OLD FAT GUYS are getting young non pros there too. How is that? You can read it on a lot of threads here.
And those party's where the colombian women go 100 to 10 guys seeking husbands. Mainly OLD OUT OF SHAPE AMERICAN's. Oh yeah. Its not because the American has MONEY. Right. Oh yeah. The guys must be great dancers. Yeah that's it.
I have NEVER seen an ad ANYWHERE where 100 AW will meet 10 foreign men in a party situation to seek husbands.
1st your info is wrong. Its like. 9 of a year. Insignificant in the real scope of things. And the latest report now says Life expectancy for Americans is at an all time high. So its constantly changing.
But one thing that has never changed. Its ALWAYS HIGHER THAN COLOMBIA. Even with so call "Bad food". In the USA life expectancy worst times it still beats Colombia.
Decline:
http://news.discovery.com/human/united-states-life-expectancy-101210.html
Increase: more recent.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j2Ppkn_QYFAMBIh7_YrU9AZ5pLkg?docId=5551c2f57e5e4363828bfb40ecd99e64
And if you had that regime in the USA you just might have got some quality pussy there too. Obviously you didn't. Its there?
To each his own. That's one man's opinion. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I never dispute who is better than who. I only know there are "Good looking" with "great personality" AW just as there are in every country.
Just as there are FAT people in every country. And obesity is rising all over the WORLD in industrial countries.
Number One city in the WORLD for MEN. Drum roll please. You guess'd it. NEW YORK.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/20/worlds-best-city-for-men-new-york-city-no-1-in-survey/
IN THE WORLD. FOR MEN! This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.
The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.
This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.
If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!
Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.
I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.
Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"
ThatGuy865
03-23-11, 21:47
This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.
The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.
This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.
If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!
Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.
I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.
Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.
That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.
Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight.
Mr Enternational
03-24-11, 01:09
If you accept their value judgments. Personally, I might vote for Pattaya.I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.
Mr Enternational
03-24-11, 01:26
This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.Yeah it was definitely some bullshit. I don't know anyone who has even been to Melbourne, Australia, much less lives there. I don't know many guys who could even afford to buy a bowl of cereal in most of the cities they named. The most affordable ones are Capetown and Bogota. All the other ones are hella expensive. Maybe the article means the best places to go if you are a gold digging woman.
LittleTruths
03-24-11, 02:02
I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.I must admitt that it doesn't sound too bad; cheap living and plenty of punani. One can already imagine wearing neither shirt nor shoes for months at a time in that kind of reality! LOL.
Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.
That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.
Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight. Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy. In Saudi Arabia sheikhs possess whole harems of women all to themselves, it doesn't mean that the average arab fucker scores as well as the ones born into that level of privilege. If you have a billion in your pocket you might just as well live at the north pole and still you'd thunder "let there be hoe$" and hoe$ would be, no matter what. Look at Dubai; they have a freaking indoor ski resort in the middle of the desert! First time I was there got out the plane at 1:00 am and there were 40 damn degrees celsius, but you can still rock your skis and go down that chilly snowy slope.
Mr Enternational
03-24-11, 02:32
Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy.The day before yesterday I was watching the documentary Inside Job. The hohouse lady was telling how the Wall Street guys would order up hookers for $1000 / hour. One guy even placed an order and told them the girl needed to pick him up in a Lamborghini. But it was cool; wasn't their money they were squandering.
ThatGuy865
03-24-11, 03:32
I voted for Pattaya as well; that is why I live here. After knowing 80 countries and hundreds of cities I can say that this is definitely the best city for men hands down. My rent is US$150/month and I can walk outside any hour of the day or night and be back in 5 minutes with a 24 hour serving of pussy for US$30.If pussy is all you want out of life. Then you have a good argument.
ThatGuy865
03-24-11, 03:39
Not a big discovery that plenty of money to dispose of makes life sweeter, but that's EVERYWHERE in the world. By any means, what the upper crust can get out of reality means fuck-all to the average guy. In Saudi Arabia sheikhs possess whole harems of women all to themselves, it doesn't mean that the average arab fucker scores as well as the ones born into that level of privilege. If you have a billion in your pocket you might just as well live at the north pole and still you'd thunder "let there be hoe$" and hoe$ would be, no matter what. Look at Dubai; they have a freaking indoor ski resort in the middle of the desert! First time I was there got out the plane at 1:00 am and there were 40 damn degrees celsius, but you can still rock your skis and go down that chilly snowy slope.Damn. Whole foods must be a lot more expensive in New York than in L. A. . I can afford whole foods in L. A. And I'm not a sheik. But what you are saying a guy in New York who eats at whole foods is the same as the sheiks in Saudi. . Damn.
Bango Cheito
03-24-11, 05:49
Sounds like a personal problem. N. Y. Has always been pricey to live. If you can't hang then you need to leave.
That article was written by those who can afford to live in New York and the comforts that come with it, like shopping at whole foods. And for a man who can afford to live there. Its the best place in the WORLD for them.
Should you even be in this game called Mongering. If your money is that tight. When I moved to NYC from Toronto in 1997, it was expensive, but really not that much worse than Toronto. There were ways to leave cheaply and well, especially if you spoke good Spanish. That has changed a lot now. They really fucked up that city taking the drug money out of it. Totally crashed the economy.
What are the "comforts" that you refer to? Sweating your balls off waiting on that non-airconditioned platform to get a subway train that never comes, and then needing a new shave by the time you get to your destination because that shit is so slow? Or. If you have the money you can take a curry-smelling taxi driven by a maniac. Even a $12000 a month apartment in NYC has roaches, and the rats eat dogs for breakfast, there's garbage everywhere. Etc. Not to mention Whole Foods is fucking CRAP. None of that shit they sell there can even legally ENTER into Colombia right now because it violates environmental and health laws!
And the p4p scene? Bogota KILLS NYC in any dimension you could care to mention. Quality, quantity, variety. For that matter Bogota kills NYC for resaturants, music, and theater these days!
If you're money is that tight and you want to monger here, it's not that much of a problem. There's a *****house every second BLOCK, and there are places to meet any price range. Nobody in their right mind would claim that about NYC. Not to mention it's illegal there. They can impound your car, do a whole bunch of shit to you just for trying to get laid.
Not to mention if it's pussy you're looking for Bogota is FAR from being the top city in Colombia. I'd put just about any other city here above it in fact. I'm here for many other reasons other than pussy not to mention I'm not independently wealthy and have to work for a living, but if I were here for the pussy I'd be in Medellin Manizales Pereira Armenia Ibague Cali or just about anywhere in Santander as well.
LittleTruths
03-24-11, 10:21
Damn. Whole foods must be a lot more expensive in New York than in L. A. . I can afford whole foods in L. A. And I'm not a sheik. But what you are saying a guy in New York who eats at whole foods is the same as the sheiks in Saudi. . Damn.It's good to read between the lines. Really. Not so good when you read things that simply are not there to begin with tho, but anyways.
Artisttyp here is an average guy like so many of us, unlike you he's a NewYawker, he's given us his point of view about the city he lives in and that's worth much more than the sexandthecity-esque drivel link that you provided in your vain attempt to convince us that "none got nothing over the good ol' USA, fuck yeah!".
I was just trying to point out that it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to judge a place from the point of view of someone loaded with cash, for the simple reason that money make it happen anywhere anyhow and at any given time.
Let me take it a step further than that tho and state that all of these "best city" rankings are complete and utter bullshit. A few years ago I came across another one of such lists and the top city in that one was Zurich. I pissed on myself in laughter because Zurich was the worst place I have ever had the misfortune to be to at the time (hadn't been yet to Sao Vicente in Cape Verde back then). And if you don't believe me just apply for a passport, hop on a swiss air flight and go there; look at people's faces and tell me that is one of the best cities in the world that they live in. Look at them with those green faces of theirs, look at them smoking cigarettes like obsessed at the bus stops, you can smell the stress and unhappiness in the air. Then take the article and wipe your ass with it.
A good friend of mine has been living there for ten years, I have been there to visit him and for my own business countless times, from the very first time I have told him to drop that city and run away and try and be happy, to no avail. Finally his dumbass wife dumped him last month and so he's now packing his shit up ready to leave and I feel like popping some champagne about it.
There is no such thing as "The Best City" to live in, it's all up to you and your very personal likes and dislikes, wants and needs and possibilities. We all look different and have different tastes, and so what does it for you could not do it for me just as well. But honestly, I can't see how an enormous, rotten to the core, rats and roaches infested, perennially traffic-jammed metropolis could make it for anyone other than the guy going to the office in his own elicopter with Louis Vuitton interiors.
Bless
ThatGuy865
03-26-11, 15:47
New York. Surely does have Rats. And yes for $1200 a month you could easily have roaches. All this is true. And I don't dispute any of that. Its expensive to live comfortably in New York.
On the other. Hand.
It has to be at least if not #1 its #2 in the World for Fashion. So what does that mean. Models. So the most beautiful women from all over the WORLD go to this one city seeking to be TOP MODELS.
Its one of the top cities in the world for true Stage acting. There's no where as famous as BROADWAY. So again it draws beautiful women from around the world to be BROADWAY stars.
Its one of the top cities in the world for TV / Movie production. This draws beautiful women from all over the WORLD.
As far as within the country it has probably the most prestigious school for Arts with the Julliard school which has been featured in countless movies. Drawing beautiful teens girls which will stay in the city for work. Make a new crop coming constantly
Not to mention all the high price secretaries for the Wall street types / Bankers etc etc which is one the most influenctial and wealthy financial industries in the world.
To say there aren't PLENTY of Beautiful women in New York city is just plain silly.
Is it just me who thinks this, or in general are American women very often saddled with subpar bodies and outrageous demands who treat sex as much as a transaction as the average prostitute? Except with American women, there's no guarantees to the service provided?
As I drove around my city here and fruitlessly tried to find a massage provider with a decent attitude, I couldn't help but daydream of my recent trip to Buenos Aires.
One girl there did in-call in her apartment. And as she escorted me back down in the elevator, it was easy to see that neighbors had to know what she did for a living, since they were in the elevator, too. And they didn't seem to judge her at all for it, not even with a horny gringo like me to be seen with her. And I'm talking about other women with kids who were exchanging friendly greetings with my provider.
Yes, Buenos Aires was nice. If only here I had the option to go get my dick sucked twice in an hour for a reasonable sum and then go look at paintings.
Bango Cheito
03-27-11, 01:26
New York. Surely does have Rats. And yes for $1200 a month you could easily have roaches. All this is true. And I don't dispute any of that. Its expensive to live comfortably in New York.
On the other. Hand.
It has to be at least if not #1 its #2 in the World for Fashion. So what does that mean. Models. So the most beautiful women from all over the WORLD go to this one city seeking to be TOP MODELS.
Its one of the top cities in the world for true Stage acting. There's no where as famous as BROADWAY. So again it draws beautiful women from around the world to be BROADWAY stars.
Its one of the top cities in the world for TV / Movie production. This draws beautiful women from all over the WORLD.
As far as within the country it has probably the most prestigious school for Arts with the Julliard school which has been featured in countless movies. Drawing beautiful teens girls which will stay in the city for work. Make a new crop coming constantly
Not to mention all the high price secretaries for the Wall street types / Bankers etc etc which is one the most influenctial and wealthy financial industries in the world.
To say there aren't PLENTY of Beautiful women in New York city is just plain silly. I didn't say $1200 a month. I said $12000! You'll have roaches if you live in the South Bronx. You'll also have them even if you live in Tribeca or Carnegie Hill, just keeping it real.
I live in Bogota now and still regularly visit NYC, the only reason being because I have kids there.
NO WAY IN HELL there are plenty of beautiful women in NYC. Not even on the best day does it come CLOSE to Bogota, and like I just said, Bogota is FAR from the place where the most beautiful women are in this country.
As far as live music and theater, NYC is DEAD! Which is why I moved out in the first place. I can take the roaches and rats and shitty food, but when the culture dies, CIAO BELLA! . What's Broadway these days, $3 million budget for flashy sets, and subpar singing acting and dancing. A bunch of uncultured fucks from flyover country come in and think they're seeing good theater because how the fuck would they know better? No fucking thank you.
In music, well, that's my FIELD. There's even LESS left in music. Nightlife. Pffff. TRY and find even ONE swingers club in NYC. I challenge you. I could show you 16 here in Bogota! Try and find Sandoz acid in NYC. Try and find MDMA or K. Try to even find cocaine that's not been stepped on a dozen times. Hell, try to find a nice juicy succulent orange. NO, that garbage you're eating from Whole Foods is NOT fresh. Come here and you'll know the difference with the first bite!
DJ FourMoney
03-27-11, 03:20
This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.
The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.
This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.
If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!
Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.
I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.
Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"This is likely closer to the truth.
But there is "race mixing" in NYC. There quite a few White Women "Down For The Brown" From Albany to New Jersey.
You still have the same problems however.
Most of the better looking women want the guy on Wall St or the guy in the entertainment industry. Not in any of those? You're likely assed out. The Millionaire Match Maker Patti
Stanger says these women are NUTZ. They claim they want "Family Oriented" men but aren't willing to venture out to the suburbs where former Wall St. Types have bought homes, hoping to fill it with a Wife and children down road.
Basically the Women of New York who you say correctly are mostly TRANSPLANTS believe its a hell hole to date men, when its their expectations that are out of control. Local men have a better chance with the Foreign Women that are in NYC for various reasons. I've found all sorts of Western and Eastern European Women living in New York.
My homie who lives on Long Island has been with the same Polish immigrant girl for the last 4 years.
New York has to be the dirtiest, most unsanitary, crowded ass hell, snobbish city on planet Earth. Data manipulation is extremely easy, put together the right criteria and Tibet could be the warmest and friendliest place on Earth. Have you been there? Holy crap! What a freaking dump! Their people are rude beyond reason, I saw nothing but raisin shaped AW with attitudes to boot, trash and graffiti everywhere. I have no agenda and I don't wish to argue any point / counterpoints but man, NYC is one disgusting tourist trap.
New York. Surely does have Rats. And yes for $1200 a month you could easily have roaches. All this is true. And I don't dispute any of that. Its expensive to live comfortably in New York.
On the other. Hand.
It has to be at least if not #1 its #2 in the World for Fashion. So what does that mean. Models. So the most beautiful women from all over the WORLD go to this one city seeking to be TOP MODELS.
Its one of the top cities in the world for true Stage acting. There's no where as famous as BROADWAY. So again it draws beautiful women from around the world to be BROADWAY stars.
Its one of the top cities in the world for TV / Movie production. This draws beautiful women from all over the WORLD.
As far as within the country it has probably the most prestigious school for Arts with the Julliard school which has been featured in countless movies. Drawing beautiful teens girls which will stay in the city for work. Make a new crop coming constantly
Not to mention all the high price secretaries for the Wall street types / Bankers etc etc which is one the most influenctial and wealthy financial industries in the world.
To say there aren't PLENTY of Beautiful women in New York city is just plain silly.
ps. they have been ticketing bicycle riders for speeding in central park this week. this happened at 6am to people trying to workout before going to work. its a joke!
dj,
yes in a city a large and diverse as nyc you will see race mixing like most places in america. however since minorities have been pushed further away from the city the landscape has turned more vanilla.
there was an era when i lived uptown and could bike into harlem (another world) in just a few minutes. these days harlem is crawling with white families and tour buses. imho nyc has gone more the way of la in the sense that your neighborhood defines you. people have gotten more segregated due to money issues. there have been many people uprooted with ny's improvement.
the problem with dating in nyc is finding the right way to meet someone in a city where each move is contrived. nobody hangs out in nyc. mainly due to the weather conditions and that overall personalities don't match up here. i personally like southern hospitality but that doesn't fly here. its cold. chances are you will be looking for love in all the wrong places. clubs gyms offices. if you arent plugged into any network or getting invited to industry parties or private get togethers you are at the mercy of clubs and public gatherings. at 41 its a huge turn off especially with all the rules. i used to party in the good days of nyc. now they want to feed me this crap they call nightlife with airport security at a premium. you're buggin!
i also wanted to mention that transportation stops onnthe weekends. good luck exploring the party scene in brooklyn. it will take you over an hour to get back to midtown late at night. sometimes they cut service all together so you have to go backwards to go forwards. you can take a cab if you want. add that to your bar bill entrance fee and drinks you might buy for a lady friend. you need rip up money to play in nyc.
every blue moon i get laid in nyc but its always a fluke and always a one nighter. there is no time to date here. it is extremely expensive and the fall of the good times has killed any enthusiasm i had left. instead i assume lock down position and save until i can travel which luckily enough happens once every 2 months.
i have a choice to spend my money here or save up for a trip. saving for trips takes precedent over everything at the moment. i can't spend money on both.
this is likely closer to the truth.
but there is "race mixing" in nyc. there quite a few white women "down for the brown" from albany to new jersey.
you still have the same problems however.
most of the better looking women want the guy on wall st or the guy in the entertainment industry. not in any of those? you're likely assed out. the millionaire match maker patti stanger says these women are nutz. they claim they want "family oriented" men but aren't willing to out to the suburbs where former wall st. types have bought homes, hoping to fill it with a wife and children down road.
basically the women of new york who you say correctly are mostly transplants believe its a hell hole to date men, when its their expectations that are out of control. local men have a better chance with the foreign women that are in nyc for various reasons. i've found all sorts of western and eastern european women living in new york.
my homie who lives on long island has been with the same polish immigrant girl for the last 4 years.
I'm a Midwestern white boy who lived in the Bronx for about five years, in the Pelham Bay neighborhood. Worked in the south Bronx. I was there in early 2004 to late 2008.
I actually miss New York in a lot of ways because of its great outdoors and the hustle attitude of the people. Everyone knows how to make a buck there.
As far as dating and all that, I'll say there could be some very attractive women there, but there were plenty of dumpy, Newport smoking women, too. As far as Manhattan, I'd describe it as a place people go when they want to take their career to the next level. I think there are many transient residents who go there to accelerate their career then leave.
If you want to see local demographics, just take the 6 train north. You'll still see some white folks and Asians up until 86th Street, but after that it's largely Latin and black and a few crackas like me.
From my experience, I will say that big cities like this are often segregated. Nice thing about New York is that people don't hide their beefs with other races so much. They're pretty open about it.
Far as race mixing, you see a few mixed couples, sure. I was in my mid- to late 30s there, and I dated a few women outside my race. To be sure, the women seemed attracted to me because I might afford them some financial stability. Ones with kids weren't shy about putting on the full court press.
But I'm not too keen on being the economic savior, especially when it involves taking care of someone else's baby batter.
Met some attractive Dominican and Puerto Rican girls. Often times, I think when these broads are young they're way into the bad boys who don't do shit with their lives but knock the girl up. Then a guy like me comes along and their standards skyrocket.
Briefly dated a Colombian girl who later tricked some dude 15 years older than me into knocking her up and marrying her.
Every place has its ups and downs. My experiences in Latin America have taught me that as an obvious white American, I'm often going to be seen as a cottage industry by poorer locals. Friendships abound when you have money.
But New York ain't so bad. It might not be as cool as it was when you were a kid, but what is?
ThatGuy865
03-27-11, 10:48
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NO WAY IN HELL there are plenty of beautiful women in NYC. Not even on the best day does it come CLOSE to Bogota, and like I just said, Bogota is FAR from the place where the most beautiful women are in this country.
As far as live music and theater, NYC is DEAD! Which is why I moved out in the first place. TRY and find even ONE swingers club in NYC. I challenge you. I could show you 16 here in Bogota! Try and find Sandoz acid in NYC. Try and find MDMA or K. Try to even find cocaine that's not been stepped on a dozen times. Hell, try to find a nice juicy succulent orange. NO, that garbage you're eating from Whole Foods is NOT fresh. Come here and you'll know the difference with the first bite! Man you just sound stupid now. NYC draws every TOP NOTCH performer of any kind in the world.
If you are anybody you play NYC.
12K a month. I doubt seriously they have 12K apts in south bronx. And if you live in S bronx then yes you suppose to have roaches. Rats.
I've been to Colombia. And there are fuglies running around there just like anywhere else. I did not see a whole lot of superstar babes running around. Just average looking like in any city. Some fuglies. Some average and a few good looking. But it wasn't like every other women was a beautiful woman.
I don't judge a city by whether or not I can get MDMA or K. Or how strong the coke is in the city. I'm not a DOPE HEAD so those things don't rate high on my."What makes a good city" list. To each his own though.
And lastly we have farmers markets in the USA too. You know. Local farmers bring their FRESH fruits and vegetables to sell.
Oh thats right. USA farmers don't know how to grow as good as Colombian farmers. Oh. The soil is better in Colombia. Oh. Pesticides have not been used in ANY colombian farms. Every where in the world uses them. Except Colombia. Just like everyone pops out only beautiful slim babies.
Damn Colombia. The world biggest secret. All the beautiful women. The best food. Drugs. Damn you got it BC. You the man. Livin Large in that head of yours.
Bango Cheito
03-27-11, 17:26
Man you just sound stupid now. NYC draws every TOP NOTCH performer of any kind in the world.
If you are anybody you play NYC.
12K a month. I doubt seriously they have 12K apts in south bronx. And if you live in S bronx then yes you suppose to have roaches. Rats.
I've been to Colombia. And there are fuglies running around there just like anywhere else. I did not see a whole lot of superstar babes running around. Just average looking like in any city. Some fuglies. Some average and a few good looking. But it wasn't like every other women was a beautiful woman.
I don't judge a city by whether or not I can get MDMA or K. Or how strong the coke is in the city. I'm not a DOPE HEAD so those things don't rate high on my."What makes a good city" list. To each his own though.
And lastly we have farmers markets in the USA too. You know. Local farmers bring their FRESH fruits and vegetables to sell.
Oh thats right. USA farmers don't know how to grow as good as Colombian farmers. Oh. The soil is better in Colombia. Oh. Pesticides have not been used in ANY colombian farms. Every where in the world uses them. Except Colombia. Just like everyone pops out only beautiful slim babies.
Damn Colombia. The world biggest secret. All the beautiful women. The best food. Drugs. Damn you got it BC. You the man. Livin Large in that head of yours. I don't even do those drugs. I just know they're there. But if you want to talk about a place where ANYTHING is available, that's here. NYC USED to be like that a long time ago.
You seem to have a huge problem actually reading what I type. If you live in the South Bronx, you have roaches. If you live in Carnegie Hill, which is the most expensive neighborhood in the city, on the Upper East Side, and a cup of coffee on the corner costs you $5 and a decent lunch costs you $20, and your rent is $12000, YOU HAVE FUCKING ROACHES! If DeNiro and Yoko Ono are your neighbors, YOU HAVE ROACHES. There is no getting away from the roaches NO MATTER HOW "NICE" YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN NYC. They are everywhere. There is no getting away from them. Anybody who has actually LIVED THERE knows this.
Top notch performers, sorry bro, most of us have moved on to greener pastures. Up until 15 years ago you would have been correct. Stop watching so much TV and get out on the street! And I was one of the few up there that didn't have to get a day job. I made a decent living there playing gospel music. But I saw the writing on the wall and left. NYC is O V E R! Period. It's a city for has-beens and want to-bes now. And that includes the fashion world, music, theater, culture in general. It had a good 80 year ride from the Harlem Renaissance on but it's DONE now.
As for the food, you said it. Colombia has health an environmental standards that are ENFORCED that just don't exist in the US, and this affects the food supply in a major way. American farming methods are shit. Along with health care and education, it's near the bottom of the world. The rest is just hype. Throughout recent history people have flocked to the USA for one reason, to make money and bring it back to their homeland. This has always been the plan. Some people got caught up and ended up staying long term, or you had cases like Holocaust survivors who really had nothing to go back to. But in general, that was the plan. Now that the US economy is in the shitter the one big reason to emigrate there has disappeared.
ThatGuy865
03-27-11, 20:54
You seem to have a huge problem actually reading what I type. If you live in the South Bronx, you have roaches. If you live in Carnegie Hill, which is the most expensive neighborhood in the city, on the Upper East Side, and a cup of coffee on the corner costs you $5 and a decent lunch costs you $20, and your rent is $12000, YOU HAVE FUCKING ROACHES! If DeNiro and Yoko Ono are your neighbors, YOU HAVE ROACHES. There is no getting away from the roaches NO MATTER HOW "NICE" YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN NYC. They are everywhere. There is no getting away from them. Anybody who has actually LIVED THERE knows this.Can those places get roaches. Yes. Do they have an infestation of roaches. NO. And you know that. If just one roach is seen. Maintenance is "Johnny on the spot" to spray insecticide or whatever you deem necessary to rid the problem. So don't make it out like they are living with roaches running around like they are a normal everyday issue for people who live in $12k apartments.
Top notch performers, sorry bro, most of us have moved on to greener pastures. Up until 15 years ago you would have been correct. Stop watching so much TV and get out on the street! And I was one of the few up there that didn't have to get a day job. I made a decent living there playing gospel music. But I saw the writing on the wall and left. NYC is O V E R! Period. It's a city for has-beens and want to-bes now. And that includes the fashion world, music, theater, culture in general. It had a good 80 year ride from the Harlem Renaissance on but it's DONE now.This is such a ridiculous statement. I laughed when I read it. You are too funny. You have a sense of humor if nothing else. Hahaha. New York is done as one of the fashion capitals. And Broadway is over. And of course Top Musicians. Shun New York now. No. Its not worth playing there. And what the hell is this "US". Pleeeaaasssseee oh yeah. You sung at a church. Of course you're a ex top notch Gospel singer living in Bogota. Who visits the city maybe twice a yr. But you know exactly every thing about whats going on in both cities. Damn you are remarkable. I guess that big Yearly INTERNATIONAL Fashion week N. Y. City is known for will be cancelled next year. Bango say's NYC is "So Done".
As for the food, you said it. Colombia has health an environmental standards that are ENFORCED that just don't exist in the US, and this affects the food supply in a major way. American farming methods are shit. Along with health care and education, it's near the bottom of the world. The rest is just hype. Throughout recent history people have flocked to the USA for one reason, to make money and bring it back to their homeland. This has always been the plan. Some people got caught up and ended up staying long term, or you had cases like Holocaust survivors who really had nothing to go back to. But in general, that was the plan. Now that the US economy is in the shitter the one big reason to emigrate there has disappeared.Just to show your ignorance
Immigration from Colombia to the USA has increased since the 80's. Each year. And they are still coming.
Would you like to compare which has the biggest migration. Americans to Colombia. Or Colombians to america. Would you like to prove your point. Lets see how many colombians. Agree with you.
Immigration to America from Colombia should be small. It should have one of the lowest number for countries around world. Why would someone leave such a great place.
Yeah a government that couldn't stop drug dealers. Without getting Military and Billions of dollars in Aide from the USA. Which still has a big rebel army running around its jungles kidnapping people. But yet you know for a fact it ENFORCES its agricultural process. Its TOUGH on pesticides. Give me a break.
Now don't get me wrong. Colombia is not a bad place to live. But don't make it out to be some "Over the rainbow" utopia. With nothing but fine women, good food, everyone with good medical care, and great education.
That guy. Breakin it down. Peace Out
Bango Cheito
03-28-11, 06:22
Can those places get roaches. Yes. Do they have an infestation of roaches. NO. And you know that. If just one roach is seen. Maintenance is "Johnny on the spot" to spray insecticide or whatever you deem necessary to rid the problem. So don't make it out like they are living with roaches running around like they are a normal everyday issue for people who live in $12k apartments.
This is such a ridiculous statement. I laughed when I read it. You are too funny. You have a sense of humor if nothing else. Hahaha. New York is done as one of the fashion capitals. And Broadway is over. And of course Top Musicians. Shun New York now. No. Its not worth playing there. And what the hell is this "US". Pleeeaaasssseee oh yeah. You sung at a church. Of course you're a ex top notch Gospel singer living in Bogota. Who visits the city maybe twice a yr. But you know exactly every thing about whats going on in both cities. Damn you are remarkable. I guess that big Yearly INTERNATIONAL Fashion week N. Y. City is known for will be cancelled next year. Bango say's NYC is "So Done".
Just to show your ignorance
Immigration from Colombia to the USA has increased since the 80's. Each year. And they are still coming.
Would you like to compare which has the biggest migration. Americans to Colombia. Or Colombians to america. Would you like to prove your point. Lets see how many colombians. Agree with you.
Immigration to America from Colombia should be small. It should have one of the lowest number for countries around world. Why would someone leave such a great place.
Yeah a government that couldn't stop drug dealers. Without getting Military and Billions of dollars in Aide from the USA. Which still has a big rebel army running around its jungles kidnapping people. But yet you know for a fact it ENFORCES its agricultural process. Its TOUGH on pesticides. Give me a break.
Now don't get me wrong. Colombia is not a bad place to live. But don't make it out to be some "Over the rainbow" utopia. With nothing but fine women, good food, everyone with good medical care, and great education.
That guy. Breakin it down. Peace OutOnce again, you show your ignorance of NYC. The roaches there are resistant to just about any poison humans cook up to kill them. So your $12k a month apartment STILL has freakin roaches. Anybody who has actually spent any time LIVING THERE knows this. There is NO easy solution to getting rid of roaches in NYC.
And there really aint that many Colombians in the USA, not anymore. Since the late 90s more have gone back than those who have come up. In fact, Colombia has about 10% of its population living outside of the country, which is comparable to Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand. So it's not like people are leaving in droves either. There are like maybe 250k Colombians living in the USA in total. Compared to over 3 million Canadians for example.
Sorry for all the typos. I am working off my ipad and cant edit how i would like to.
I am sure there are some very expensive apartments in NYC but usual rent for a manhattan person is between $2200 and 6K on the high end. 3k and under will get you a studio or maybe a one bedroom depending what part of town you are in.
Mice and roaches are problems everywhere not just in poor areas. If you keep your apartment clean they won't come. Instead they will go to where there is food.
Art is dead in NYC. I am an veteran fringe person from the east village days. Those days are gone. The color is gone and so is the flavor. People still com here searching for it and some think they find it when in reality its like everything else. Contrived. This is mainly due to crackdowns and new rules. Inflated prices that keep a certain elk out. However there will always be poeople who buy into the crap about NY being americas city etc. The truth is most of us hate outsiders and most of them are to blame for the current condition that NYC is in.
Gone are the days of alan ginsberg richie havens new york dolls the ramones wharhol etc.
Now you have FAB want to be's tattle tale do gooders Brooklyn hipsters (the 80s revisited) and right wing homosexuals. Extremely edgy indeed!
Lets not forget the high priced sluts that keep us in line.
ThatGuy865
03-28-11, 18:27
Once again, you show your ignorance of NYC. The roaches there are resistant to just about any poison humans cook up to kill them. So your $12k a month apartment STILL has freakin roaches. Anybody who has actually spent any time LIVING THERE knows this. There is NO easy solution to getting rid of roaches in NYC.I guess you've been to ALL the 12K apts in NYC to know. Dam you are so knowledgeable on just about everything. You know music, women, roaches and where they dwell and what will and will not kill them.
And Yes I know NY. At least crooklyn,"money makin" manhattan, and the "boogie down" bronx.
And there really aint that many Colombians in the USA, not anymore. Since the late 90s more have gone back than those who have come up. In fact, Colombia has about 10% of its population living outside of the country, which is comparable to Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand. So it's not like people are leaving in droves either. There are like maybe 250k Colombians living in the USA in total. Compared to over 3 million Canadians for example.Yeah. But less than 4% of American's live outside the country. Goes to show you.
For Americans. Dorothy was right."there's no place like home" at least American's think so.
Also your comparison is ridiculous. Canadians and Mexicans can walk across the boarder, so of course there would be more and millions of them.
Just like the majority of Americans who live outside the USA live in Mexico and Canada. 50% dam near of all american's who live "Abroad" are just next door. We don't go far from the Greatest country. So we can easily get back.
Based on Wikipedia. Colombia is in the top 10 countries for legal immigrants to America. 43K for 2006 alone.
More in one year than all Americans living in Colombia. Period (from the beginning of time to now).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
The top twelve emigrant countries in 2006 were Mexico (173, 753) , People's Republic of China (87, 345) , Philippines (74, 607) , India (61, 369) , Cuba (45, 614) , Colombia (43, 151) , Dominican Republic (38, 069) , El Salvador (31, 783) , Vietnam (30, 695) , Jamaica (24, 976) , South Korea (24, 386) , Guatemala (24, 146)
I mean come on. No one is his right mind would tell you they thought Colombia would be a better place to live than the USA. We get more people in one year trying to come to the USA than has migrated or tried to go to Colombia in its entire history.
Please enough already. There is nothing that Colombia has BETTER than the USA. Its an emerging country. Which means. It trying to get where America is already at. . But if you like the place. Good for you. Enjoy yourself and be happy.
It's all relative, there are roaches all over New York city. The roaches residing in the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens are about as big as a medium sized dog. The roaches around the Upper West side are about the size of a rat. On the Upper east most roaches are the size of a house mouse.
I guess you've been to ALL the 12K apts in NYC to know. Dam you are so knowledgeable on just about everything. You know music, women, roaches and where they dwell and what will and will not kill them.
And Yes I know NY. At least crooklyn,"money makin" manhattan, and the "boogie down" bronx.
Yeah. But less than 4% of American's live outside the country. Goes to show you.
For Americans. Dorothy was right."there's no place like home" at least American's think so.
Also your comparison is ridiculous. Canadians and Mexicans can walk across the boarder, so of course there would be more and millions of them.
Just like the majority of Americans who live outside the USA live in Mexico and Canada. 50% dam near of all american's who live "Abroad" are just next door. We don't go far from the Greatest country. So we can easily get back.
Based on Wikipedia. Colombia is in the top 10 countries for legal immigrants to America. 43K for 2006 alone.
More in one year than all Americans living in Colombia. Period (from the beginning of time to now).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
The top twelve emigrant countries in 2006 were Mexico (173, 753) , People's Republic of China (87, 345) , Philippines (74, 607) , India (61, 369) , Cuba (45, 614) , Colombia (43, 151) , Dominican Republic (38, 069) , El Salvador (31, 783) , Vietnam (30, 695) , Jamaica (24, 976) , South Korea (24, 386) , Guatemala (24, 146)
I mean come on. No one is his right mind would tell you they thought Colombia would be a better place to live than the USA. We get more people in one year trying to come to the USA than has migrated or tried to go to Colombia in its entire history.
Please enough already. There is nothing that Colombia has BETTER than the USA. Its an emerging country. Which means. It trying to get where America is already at. . But if you like the place. Good for you. Enjoy yourself and be happy.
Random comment about NYC roaches
Bango Cheito
03-29-11, 06:32
Sorry for all the typos. I am working off my ipad and can't edit how I would like to.
I am sure there are some very expensive apartments in NYC but usual rent for a manhattan person is between $2200 and 6K on the high end. 3k and under will get you a studio or maybe a one bedroom depending what part of town you are in.
Mice and roaches are problems everywhere not just in poor areas. If you keep your apartment clean they won't come. Instead they will go to where there is food.
Art is dead in NYC. I am an veteran fringe person from the east village days. Those days are gone. The color is gone and so is the flavor. People still com here searching for it and some think they find it when in reality its like everything else. Contrived. This is mainly due to crackdowns and new rules. Inflated prices that keep a certain elk out. However there will always be poeople who buy into the crap about NY being americas city etc. The truth is most of us hate outsiders and most of them are to blame for the current condition that NYC is in.
Gone are the days of alan ginsberg richie havens new york dolls the ramones wharhol etc.
Now you have FAB want to be's tattle tale do gooders Brooklyn hipsters (the 80s revisited) and right wing homosexuals. Extremely edgy indeed!
Lets not forget the high priced sluts that keep us in line. That's why I used Carnegie Hill as an example. Anything in the 90s close to the park on the East side is generally over $10 a month. There are some condos with $10k plus MAINTANENCE in that neighborhood.
Under 4% of Americans, Brazilians, Russians, Indonesians and Chinese live abroad. The bigger countries tend to have lower %'s in that regard.
Colombia may be behind the US in everything ON PAPER. But on the street it's a hell of a lot nicer place to live, especially if like me you hate cars, lawns, and suburbs! And it's the best place I've ever seen to make a living as a musician, I'll tell you that hands down.
Manizales911
03-29-11, 15:29
Please enough already. There is nothing that Colombia has BETTER than the USA. Its an emerging country. Which means. It trying to get where America is already at. [/QUOTE]Obviously you've never been to Colombia let alone traveled there extensively so how the fuck can you make such a statement?
ThatGuy865
03-29-11, 15:42
Lets get back on Topic and continue. Talking about the blessing it is to get an AW.
Its about being a hunter.
Some Guys are big game safari hunters. They go after successful AW. The most sort after prize in the WORLD.
Some Guys are back woods hunters. They go after any AW. They may settle for less attractive. But being AW is still a prize.
Then some guys are small game hunters. They want ez prey. They go out of the country where they prey (women) are easier to catch.
None are wrong for what they like. Its just each has their own level of work they are willing to put in to capturing their prey.
Bango Cheito
03-29-11, 17:25
Lets get back on Topic and continue. Talking about the blessing it is to get an AW.
Its about being a hunter.
Some Guys are big game safari hunters. They go after successful AW. The most sort after prize in the WORLD.
Some Guys are back woods hunters. They go after any AW. They may settle for less attractive. But being AW is still a prize.
Then some guys are small game hunters. They want ez prey. They go out of the country where they prey (women) are easier to catch.
None are wrong for what they like. Its just each has their own level of work they are willing to put in to capturing their prey. Colombian women are a lot harder to bag than AW bro. The only advantage people from the US have here is that their currency is still overvalued, and that people have a false perception about the US mostly based on shit that was true 30 years ago.
ThatGuy865
03-29-11, 22:50
Colombian women are a lot harder to bag than AW bro. The only advantage people from the US have here is that their currency is still overvalued, and that people have a false perception about the US mostly based on shit that was true 30 years ago.Well since I'm a MONGER. And its about the P4P scene when I'm there. Who gives a damn. I'm not trying to score with non P4P anyway. And I have NEVER been turned down at a Casa. So the rest who cares.
Lets get back on Topic and continue. Talking about the blessing it is to get an AW.
Its about being a hunter.
Some Guys are big game safari hunters. They go after successful AW. The most sort after prize in the WORLD.
Some Guys are back woods hunters. They go after any AW. They may settle for less attractive. But being AW is still a prize.
Then some guys are small game hunters. They want ez prey. They go out of the country where they prey (women) are easier to catch.
None are wrong for what they like. Its just each has their own level of work they are willing to put in to capturing their prey.Most of this is cool, just have 2 questions.
1) What makes AW a prize? What is in them that makes them more of a prize than in other women? Still on average AW are not as good looking, and not as feminine as most other women. Unless she pays you a lot of money, what makes her a prize?
2) You are right, there are different types of guys. They have their own ways to get women. You have not mentioned the guys who get nothing. I've seen intelligent successful guys making good money in USA guys who get ZERO women! It is really ridiculous, because there is no way they would be without women in other countries where I see lots of much less successful guys, or outright losers who get nice women, date or marry them.
Bango Cheito
03-30-11, 04:25
Well since I'm a MONGER. And its about the P4P scene when I'm there. Who gives a damn. I'm not trying to score with non P4P anyway. And I have NEVER been turned down at a Casa. So the rest who cares.Wait a minute. Now you're talking about P4P? Are you seriously saying the P4P is better in the US than here? O_o
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/29/mexico.acapulco.child.prostitution/index.html?hpt=T2
Check out this American morality report on prostitution in Acapulco. If this American mentality regarding prostitution spreads to other countries, hopefully I'll be dead by then. I'm having flashbacks of mongering in sex prison.
Chocha Monger
04-01-11, 02:42
Think twice before going down on AW skanks!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/29/spinnaker-oral-sex_n_842025.html?icid=main
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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/29/mexico.acapulco.child.prostitution/index.html?hpt=T2
Check out this American morality report on prostitution in Acapulco. If this American mentality regarding prostitution spreads to other countries, hopefully I'll be dead by then. I'm having flashbacks of mongering in sex prison.And this story brought to us courtesy of CNN, which means: can you imagine how many USA cops are collecting salary to sit in front of computers to monitor this problem and tracking people who visit mexico.
ThatGuy865
04-01-11, 03:32
Wait a minute. Now you're talking about P4P? Are you seriously saying the P4P is better in the US than here? O_oNO. Colombia definitely beats the USA for P4P action. Now when it comes to that. The USA does rank close to the bottom.
You said non-P4P Colombian women are harder to pick up than AW. I'm just saying when I am there. I'm only looking for P4P. So I really don't go out hunting for non-P4P. If it happens. Its not because I really put forth an effort or really tried. . It just happens.
But if I was going to a place to meet non-P4P women. I wouldn't pick a place where woman are harder to pick than AW. No matter how good they looked.
I follow that motto "All cats look black in the dark". So it doesn't take Ms Universe to make me bust a nut. I've come to the point where for me it's more the performance than looks. I've had some of my best sex with plain average women and most of my worst have been with stunners.
CherchezFemme
04-01-11, 19:38
Wow this forum has heated up in the last few weeks, nice to see.
I wanted to respond to a lot of posts made the last few weeks about AW, about feminism, about race, about roaches, about diet etc. I REALLY think we need an Off-Topic forum and I've made this suggestion in the past.
To be brief here are a few bullet points:
- Race: men would be better off hitting on those within their own race, in GENERAL. That's where they have the highest chance of success. I can't stand guys talking about how they're discriminated against by women of other races and, let's be honest, most of the time they're blaming white women. So a white woman or light-skinned hispanic finds you less attractive than someone your own race does, so what? That's life. There's differences between races - TOUGH. GROW THE FUCK UP. We can't all have a blonde with big tits or a Beyonce.
Blame Hollywood and TV for glamorizing light-skinned women and making you lust after them, but realize you can't change people's nature.
As Fat Joe says to his haters: "It's a cold world and this is ICE / half a mil' for the charm n**ga THIS IS LIFE."
It's life, get it?
BTW I used to be into pick-up or seduction, and a lot of the guys there would be nerdy, scrawny or chubby or asian, or both. Some would be little asian or Indian dudes fresh off the boat, grad students or computer programmers, and when we hit the clubs or bars most would go after white women. I would think to myself "You're a 24 year old virgin nerd with a thick accent and right away you're going after the hardest girls to get, WTF is wrong with you?"
If I were to do it again I would tell them them to go after their own kind OR fat / ugly women, regardless of race. Then maybe, after some experience, go for hotter women. These guys were just setting themselves up for disappointment. I wasn't getting laid much either tho so I kept my mouth shut.
The worst part is many of the guys kept thinking if they learned just ONE MORE routine or opened one more woman, or attended one more 2, 000 dollar seminar, then THAT would get them laid.
- Re: the Hymowitz article, AW and their expectations and attitude. I need to be reductionist to make my point, so forgive me for the shallowness of what I am about to say: when it comes to looks, there are 3 types of men and women. There are HOT, DOABLE and UGLY.
Feminism and the sexual liberation has hurt the sex lives AWA the relationships of DOABLE men, and totally fucked the relationships of HOT and DOABLE women.
It used to be harder to get laid, women really worried about their reputation and it was not sexually acceptable to have sex outside a relationship. So people more or less went after what came naturally to them. They did not have a "shoot for the stars" mentality and were happy to find someone, get married, have kids, whatever. Like attracted like and so on.
Now that unattached sex is part of our culture, HOT guys get laid more than ever because guys being the hound dogs they are, will fuck both hot and doable women. This presents a problem to doable women, because hot guys are within reach, they can have fun with them, they can literally taste the prize, but they can't HAVE the prize, because a hot guy ain't going to marry them.
So doable girls end up with way too high standards which unless they wake up, leads to loneliness and bitterness. (Sex and the City did not help matters here, as that c**t rejected all the nice guys to wait for the handsome millionaire, Mr. Big. As if Mr. Big would marry a 40+ scrawny **** with a huge nose and beady eyes!)
The bitterness and ridiculous standards of doable girls hurts the sex life and relationships of doable guys who want to be with them since they can't have the hotties and don't want the uglies. The doable guys lust after women and get bitter be / see they have a hard time getting either doables or hotties.
Hot girls get screwed over be / see hot guys cheat on them and break their hearts and constantly look for new poon. Eventually they may settle on a doable guy or end up with a cuckolding hot guy.
UGLY people are still cool though, not much changes for them. As long as they realize their limitations, they will probably be the happiest.
The dissatisfaction of doable men and women, and of hot women, leads to divorce, messed-up children and emnity between men and women.
-Roaches: I live in NYC and killed them off for 8 months by placing a ton of traps, but they came back. Maybe they come up through the sink?
-I met a 40 yr old EE woman (Polish) , I have a date with her tonight and am hoping to bang her. She is awesome, so far. Great shape, sexy dresser, good conversation, she actually picks up the phone, returns my calls and calls when she says she will. Unbelievable. If things work out with her, great. If not, I may just go on one of those wife tours to Poland or Ukraine.
We all know foreign women can change for the worse once back in the USA but fuck it, if they're like this woman then I can take the risk. I'm getting tired of looking for a good woman, real tired.
Jon von Neumann
04-01-11, 21:37
Wow this forum has heated up in the last few weeks, nice to see.
- Re: the Hymowitz article, AW and their expectations and attitude. I need to be reductionist to make my point, so forgive me for the shallowness of what I am about to say: when it comes to looks, there are 3 types of men and women. There are HOT, DOABLE and UGLY.
Feminism and the sexual liberation has hurt the sex lives AWA the relationships of DOABLE men, and totally fucked the relationships of HOT and DOABLE women.
It used to be harder to get laid, women really worried about their reputation and it was not sexually acceptable to have sex outside a relationship. So people more or less went after what came naturally to them. They did not have a "shoot for the stars" mentality and were happy to find someone, get married, have kids, whatever. Like attracted like and so on.
Now that unattached sex is part of our culture, HOT guys get laid more than ever because guys being the hound dogs they are, will fuck both hot and doable women. This presents a problem to doable women, because hot guys are within reach, they can have fun with them, they can literally taste the prize, but they can't HAVE the prize, because a hot guy ain't going to marry them.
So doable girls end up with way too high standards which unless they wake up, leads to loneliness and bitterness. (Sex and the City did not help matters here, as that see*t rejected all the nice guys to wait for the handsome millionaire, Mr. Big. As if Mr. Big would marry a 40+ scrawny * with a huge nose and beady eyes!)
The bitterness and ridiculous standards of doable girls hurts the sex life and relationships of doable guys who want to be with them since they can't have the hotties and don't want the uglies. The doable guys lust after women and get bitter be / see they have a hard time getting either doables or hotties.
Hot girls get screwed over be / see hot guys cheat on them and break their hearts and constantly look for new poon. Eventually they may settle on a doable guy or end up with a cuckolding hot guy.
Cherchezfemme,
You're some philosopher king. Word! Some hot girls get fucked over big time-I've seen this happen (heck, I've dated more than my fair share of them). They lash out by going after the average guy that is not really available. The situation is totally fucked.
ThatGuy865
04-02-11, 00:03
Now that unattached sex is part of our culture, HOT guys get laid more than ever because guys being the hound dogs they are, will fuck both hot and doable women. This presents a problem to doable women, because hot guys are within reach, they can have fun with them, they can literally taste the prize, but they can't HAVE the prize, because a hot guy ain't going to marry them.
So doable girls end up with way too high standards which unless they wake up, leads to loneliness and bitterness. (Sex and the City did not help matters here, as that see*t rejected all the nice guys to wait for the handsome millionaire, Mr. Big. As if Mr. Big would marry a 40+ scrawny * with a huge nose and beady eyes!)
The bitterness and ridiculous standards of doable girls hurts the sex life and relationships of doable guys who want to be with them since they can't have the hotties and don't want the uglies. The doable guys lust after women and get bitter be / see they have a hard time getting either doables or hotties.
Hot girls get screwed over be / see hot guys cheat on them and break their hearts and constantly look for new poon. Eventually they may settle on a doable guy or end up with a cuckolding hot guy.
UGLY people are still cool though, not much changes for them. As long as they realize their limitations, they will probably be the happiest.
The dissatisfaction of doable men and women, and of hot women, leads to divorce, messed-up children and emnity between men and women. Well said. And I think that a population of those "dissatisfied doable" guys turn to mongering. And a percentage of them get so disgusted they consider moving out of the country. Rightly or wrongly.
The other groups "Hot guys" and "Ugly guys" will eventually find their happiness. Cause "Hot guys" evenutally get a "hot girl" or settle on a "doable" girl. And "Ugly guys" have it the easiest because they have the whole field to choose from.
DJ FourMoney
04-02-11, 05:45
Colombian women are a lot harder to bag than AW bro. The only advantage people from the US have here is that their currency is still overvalued, and that people have a false perception about the US mostly based on shit that was true 30 years ago.I can't believe that.
AW are not BIG GAME, if that was true there would be droves of men from all over the world trying to tag and marry them. That is NOT the case and its not because their isn't a huge promotional machine out there either. Man there even American Women modeling in Europe on billboards! There's no shortage of admiration of American Women.
What That Guy is saying is another page out of American Expectionalism manifesto. America's the greatest country on earth, so our women must be superior as well.
If our standard of living is behind Europe how is that even possible to say our women are better than in other locations and cultures?
That's a might presumptive.
American Women are only "better" for American Men because there's no culture or language barrier to deal with.
Cherchezfemme its obvious you've never been Black so I'll keep it tidy. 90% of what you see and hear about Black Women is TRUE. 10% is overheated rhetoric, like Planned Parenthood is targeting African-American communities; Nope they are just going where their is money to be made.
Sorry but I grew up middle class in suburbia. So while I have relatives that have lived in places like South Bronx or Watts, in fact the infamous Nickerson Garden's Projects. When I moved to Los Angeles (Inglewood) from the Bay Area (San Jose) in 1981, it was a culture shock. When we moved into the Western San Fernando Valley in 1983, it was 90% Caucasian and I felt much more at ease.
Black Women in the inner city thought I was corny. Now explain to me how I would be "better" hitting on women from my own race when being smart and intelligent is seen as being something other than "Black"? The general thought in the Black Community about Obama was "Is he Black enough?", while the line between Derek Jeter, Vin Diesel and Jennifer Beals is blurred so that if you told people they were mostly Black or at least bi-racial they would think your nuts. I bet almost none of you knew when you saw Beals in Flashdance that her father is in fact Black as the Ace of Spades.
Anyway the whole question of "Blackness" effects your chances with a majority of Black Women. My chances were never good. Besides, it wasn't like a) Black Women were in abundance where I lived b) I had no desire to spend time in South Central Los Angeles where at that time a majority of Black People lived in Los Angeles. The vast majority of Black People I knew were bused into the Valley for school. We didn't socialize outside of school.
So basically B I've been dating White Women since day one. You're a product of your environment, chasing around White Women is normal to me, its not odd at all, even if some may find it odd. Beyonce is a bad analogy because she came from a very upper middle class background but is married to a ghetto street urchin turned well known rapper. That's Thug Life at work. Be a successful "Thug" gets the hot chicks = Beyonce Knowles, Tiffany Lane (Chari Baltimore) , Lisa Raye (Wooo! - Master P) , Angie Martinez, Stacy Dash, etc, etc.
LittleTruths
04-02-11, 10:18
Lets get back on Topic and continue. Talking about the blessing it is to get an AW.
Its about being a hunter.
Some Guys are big game safari hunters. They go after successful AW. The most sort after prize in the WORLD. My constipation has been solved, thanks a lot for this and for the good laughter too.
Bless
P.S.// No really, sorry but "American Woman" doesn't ring any bell at all. If you really think of it real hard tho perhaps you can come up with the image of a slutty, loud, spoiled whatever woman of sort. I'm saying this and it is my point of view as an European; there is nothing that makes AW a prize nor getting one of them a "blessing".
-I met a 40 yr old EE woman (Polish) , I have a date with her tonight and am hoping to bang her. She is awesome, so far. Great shape, sexy dresser, good conversation, she actually picks up the phone, returns my calls and calls when she says she will. Unbelievable. If things work out with her, great. If not, I may just go on one of those wife tours to Poland or Ukraine.
We all know foreign women can change for the worse once back in the USA but fuck it, if they're like this woman then I can take the risk. I'm getting tired of looking for a good woman, real tired. Ok, cool post. A agree with some and disagree with some. This is the problem (not yours. In general). Too much "thinking".
You got to get out. I'm going back to Eastern Europe soon. Stuff happens there naturally. If you tell people there about "$2000 seminars" or any other crap. They are going to laugh at you and won't believe you. Compared to foreign this is just ridicuolus.
If you were there you would date everyday if you with a 24 whyear old instead of 40year old When I am there I have trouble get rid off them. In USA I have a problem get a date.
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If I were to do it again I would tell them them to go after their own kind OR fat / ugly women, regardless of race. Then maybe, after some experience, go for hotter women.Maybe it makes some sense, but I the woman is ugly, no way I would go for her. No attraction, no interest, why? When young I did one fat and' ugly American girl, and some others not very attractive, just for the heck, still regret about it.
Like one my Eastern European friend is saying "your dick does not come from a trash can". Another point, if people pay attention more to better looking girls, then the ugly ones will have more incentive to look better. So I would say, go for good looking ones only.
CherchezFemme
04-03-11, 23:06
DJ4M. My post was not directed at you in particular but rather the overall concept of guys complaining (here and in Colombia) about the lack of interest of white / light-skinned women, but if you identified with it, I find that interesting. BTW I chose Beyonce since she is considered one of the most beautiful AA women and is light-skinned. And please don't talk about her being married to an ugly thug, we ALL know that if you are rich and famous you can have just about any woman you want.
The issue is not Beyonce's personal life but the fact that I feel cultural brainwashing has led everyone to believe that certain types of women (light-skinned, thin) are more desirable but yet those women may have normal, natural and healthy desires to date those within their race. Doesn't make 'em rayciss and it doesn't make life unfair.
I really don't know and don't care what AA women think or what they are like, it just doesn't interest me SO I don't know where you are coming from. I DO however understand what you wrote about black US culture denigrating book smarts and studying and glamorizing any way of life that produces and flaunts $$. It's a shame and one of the causes of the ills that afflict AA society.
Just so you know, of my 4 black friends (2 close and 2 friends from jr high I keep in touch with) the 2 who are African and came here young are married with a young child, one is married to an African woman and the other to an AA woman.
The 2 other gentlemen are AA and both are unmarried and have baby mommas.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.
I also understand to what you said about relating to the middle class white kids better than 2 the poor AA kids who were bused in. A (white) friend of mine who immigrated to the US had the same experience- he had a funny name, was not cool and was picked on by the other kids in his lily-white suburb. He got along really well with the poor AA kids who were bused in from the ghetto since they were both outsiders.
CherchezFemme
04-03-11, 23:24
Ok, cool post. A agree with some and disagree with some. This is the problem (not yours. In general). Too much "thinking".
You got to get out. I'm going back to Eastern Europe soon. Stuff happens there naturally. If you tell people there about "$2000 seminars" or any other crap. They are going to laugh at you and won't believe you. Compared to foreign this is just ridicuolus.
If you were there you would date everyday if you with a 24 whyear old instead of 40year old When I am there I have trouble get rid off them. In USA I have a problem get a date. Goga.
So I did not have sex with this Polish woman after 4 dates and I ended up feeling a bit used for entertainment. At the end of our 4th date when she said we weren't sleeping together I left her outside while I went into a bar to watch a band. She ended up taking a cab home, which would be the only money she spent with me.
I am too 'nice' and I can't get into women's pants. 3 women in the last 2 weeks (including this Polish woman) have kissed me in clubs and told me how nice and sweet I am but they didn't suck my see*k and here I am again, frustrated.
If anyone has ANY advice on how I can break out of the 'nice' guy mold, please help!
We all know women want 'bad boys', how the F*K do you become one?
Goga- what do you mean by thinking too much? Please explain in detail. Maybe you see something I don't.
Nothing personal, but I hate these stories of how better it is in EE. Its just not in my reality. I've looked a little bit into teaching abroad but for now I don't have the qualifications. Plus I don't want to go abroad just for pu$$why, I have an entire LIFE I'm trying to build here. Maybe for the summer, we'll see.
CherchezFemme
04-03-11, 23:27
Maybe it makes some sense, but I the woman is ugly, no way I would go for her. No attraction, no interest, why? When young I did one fat and' ugly American girl, and some others not very attractive, just for the heck, still regret about it.
Out of curiosity Goga, are you Asian?
Also, I think that when someone is a virgin any and all experience is needed, just to see what it's like. Practice makes perfect and all that.
LittleTruths
04-04-11, 00:27
If anyone has ANY advice on how I can break out of the 'nice' guy mold, please help!
We all know women want 'bad boys', how the F*K do you become one? Not everybody is a "bad boy", nor everybody needs to "become one" in order to get pussy.
Life comes without instructions booklet and so what we do in it is TRY and see what happens. Learning how to accept and deal with defeat is an important step of becoming a man, and not only as far as women are concerned but on all fronts; you try and fail, then try again in a different situation and see what happens, down the line you start seeing what works and what doesn't and so start acting accordingly.
You don't "become" a bad boy in order to get pussy, the one and only best thing you can become in life is becoming yourself, whatever that is.
Just be patient, try and keep a positive outlook on things, know what you want and go for it untill you get it.
Of course, what we experience in our day by day life makes up for what we turn into; but that's not really something over which you have much or any control, so just keep the ball moving and live life trying to get your slice of it according to your tastes.
That said, I would add don't let these beeatches take advantage of you, and when you get played once try not to be played twice over the same game.
In time it all comes together.
These were my two cents.
Good luck
Chocha Monger
04-04-11, 00:48
Goga.
So I did not have sex with this Polish woman after 4 dates and I ended up feeling a bit used for entertainment. At the end of our 4th date when she said we weren't sleeping together I left her outside while I went into a bar to watch a band. She ended up taking a cab home, which would be the only money she spent with me.
I am too 'nice' and I can't get into women's pants. 3 women in the last 2 weeks (including this Polish woman) have kissed me in clubs and told me how nice and sweet I am but they didn't suck my see*k and here I am again, frustrated.
If anyone has ANY advice on how I can break out of the 'nice' guy mold, please help!
We all know women want 'bad boys', how the F*K do you become one?
Goga- what do you mean by thinking too much? Please explain in detail. Maybe you see something I don't.
Nothing personal, but I hate these stories of how better it is in EE. Its just not in my reality. I've looked a little bit into teaching abroad but for now I don't have the qualifications. Plus I don't want to go abroad just for pu$$why, I have an entire LIFE I'm trying to build here. Maybe for the summer, we'll see. Cherchezfemme,
You fucked up! This woman was 40 yrs old which means you should have made a play for the pussy on the first date. At that age women know what they want. If she didn't give you any action like tongue hockey and heavy petting on the first date and the pussy on the second date then she was never going to give it to you at all. This is from a guy who has knocked the dust out of the rugs of more AW MILFs than I care to remember! LOL Anyway, women know if they're going to fuck you or not at the start of the first date and many times even before that. Learn to make an early play for the poon and cut your losses if the game is against you. When a stock drops you drop the stock. You don't ride that shit to the bottom.
Chocha Monger
04-04-11, 01:12
My constipation has been solved, thanks a lot for this and for the good laughter too.
Bless.
P. S / No really, sorry but "American Woman" doesn't ring any bell at all. If you really think of it real hard tho perhaps you can come up with the image of a slutty, loud, spoiled whatever woman of sort. I'm saying this and it is my point of view as an European; there is nothing that makes AW a prize nor getting one of them a "blessing". My sentiments exactly. However, I will concede that AW are indeed big game. They're in the same size classification with elephants, hippos and cape buffalo, and just as dangerous to any would be hunter.
Smarter hunters choose to go after lithe gazelles or tender doves.
CherchezFemme
04-04-11, 05:29
Oh chocha. You had to go for the obvious joke didn't you? .
CherchezFemme
04-04-11, 05:33
Cherchezfemme,
You fucked up! This woman was 40 yrs old which means you should have made a play for the pussy on the first date. At that age women know what they want. If she didn't give you any action like tongue hockey and heavy petting on the first date and the pussy on the second date then she was never going to give it to you at all. This is from a guy who has knocked the dust out of the rugs of more AW MILFs than I care to remember! LOL Anyway, women know if they're going to fuck you or not at the start of the first date and many times even before that. Learn to make an early play for the poon and cut your losses if the game is against you. When a stock drops you drop the stock. You don't ride that shit to the bottom. Why didn't I know this before? Well thanks for the advice re:milfs. Believe me I will follow it. 2 dates max. In fact I kept thinking to myslef 'She's an older woman, she's decided if she's going to bang me or not"
But a younger girl I can give more time than just the 2nd date- correct? I know the rule is usually 3 dates for something sexy to happen.
Goga.
I am too 'nice' and I can't get into women's pants. 3 women in the last 2 weeks (including this Polish woman) have kissed me in clubs and told me how nice and sweet I am but they didn't suck my see*k and here I am again, frustrated.
If anyone has ANY advice on how I can break out of the 'nice' guy mold, please help!
You have to stop acting nice, act in a way that expresses what you really want. Sex from her and that's it. If she's cool, then that's a bonus but you don't really care if she is cool or not.
When I started acting like all I wanted was sex from women the pussy I got increased times 20. Once you learn how to do that you can play the game when you want. If you ever do meet a REALLY cool girl worth your time, then be yourself, but that's about <1% of women you meet.
This method will leave you with your dignity 100% of the time. You never follow a girl around like a puppy, if she doesnt do what you want when you want... you will have a new girl who will by next weekend. Play the game by your rules not hers.
There is so much bullshit in American culture brainwashing the country that they are #1 for everything. I am constantly arguing with my friends who are still stuck there that America is awful and there are much better countries to live in.
With only 28% of the population having passports, what do we expect? 70% having never left the country is pure ignorance if they have any opinion whatsoever on where the best place to live in the world is. I'm always surprised when ThatGuy comes on here praising America. ThatGuy have you lived in any places that were not 3rd world?
As far as hip hop culture in America, I can't stand it. As it keeps getting bigger I think it is making AW even less desirable (if that's even possible). Again one of the many things from America I hope does not spread far and wide.
Chocha Monger
04-04-11, 12:05
Why didn't I know this before? Well thanks for the advice re:milfs. Believe me I will follow it. 2 dates max. In fact I kept thinking to myslef 'She's an older woman, she's decided if she's going to bang me or not"
But a younger girl I can give more time than just the 2nd date- correct? I know the rule is usually 3 dates for something sexy to happen. Don't play by their rules. Play by yours. That means you start sweating her for that pussy on the first date. If she starts acting funky then cut her loose right there. A lot of women fuck on the first date and those who don't will at least give you some hot kissing and touching to keep you interested. The 3 date rule is just an excuse for women who use dating as a means to obtain free meals and entertainment. Save yourself some money next time and invite the woman over for a meal and a movie at your place. If you must meet outside your place limit it to coffee or ice cream and use that ecounter to get inside her head. If she is only after free dinners, lunches and entertainment you'll know really quick.
ThatGuy865
04-04-11, 14:25
ThatGuy have you lived in any places that were not 3rd world?A bit of a personal question. But Yes. 2 yrs and Europe.
LittleTruths
04-04-11, 14:30
However, I will concede that AW are indeed big game. They're in the same size classification with elephants, hippos and cape buffalo, and just as dangerous to any would be hunter.
LOL, classic!
Why didn't I know this before? Well thanks for the advice re:milfs. Believe me I will follow it. 2 dates max. In fact I kept thinking to myslef 'She's an older woman, she's decided if she's going to bang me or not"Feel free to get rid of this nonsense and flush it down the toilet together with whoever is supporting it. You don't wine and dine random beeatches just to check if some good might come out of it, well, unless you receive some kind of twisted satisfaction by doing that.
Don't be a sucker, it's nice to be nice but just to people who deserves it, people who you are really interested in and that harbor the same interest towards you in return. Other than that you're putting yourself in to be taken for a free ride or free meal ticket. Two or three dates my dick! Who you think you're dating, the virgin mary perhaps? These women have been giving heads to random dudes in club's toilets, what the hell are you trying to get out of them that'd take dates and dates to get? It baffles me.
You meet someone, if there is a good vibe about it and interest on both sides then there is no miracle to be made nor rabbit out a hat to be pulled, your goal is penis in vagina and that's what you go for, as quick as possible, straight out the club if possible or even into it! If that's not the case (sometimes it isn't) , then you exchange digits and try working it out; a few sms, maybe a quick call, you'll know if she is interested. If she is, you call her out on a date, bearing in mind that date means "I take you dining, I might take you for drinks or clubbing even, but then I fuck you up the ass", and that's what it is.
You don't need to waste your perfectly good money on random h0es' entertainment, you can buy yourself some good pussy with that same money instead! And here we been talking about girls in thir twenties! 'cause if we talk milfs then she should have your dick in her mouth even before you ever get to sit together at the ice cream parlor.
But a younger girl I can give more time than just the 2nd date- correct? I know the rule is usually 3 dates for something sexy to happen.
No, you can't. Unless you like to waste time, that is. They know it straight away if they're going to fuck you or not, no need to waste time and money and effort into cultivating immaginary relationships.
Bless
ThatGuy865
04-05-11, 02:45
So why do you guys complain if you're able to get AW. Like that. No meal. Get the digits. Call her over. Throw a DVD in and you strokin that ass. Whats to complaints about. If thats how its working for you guys.
Or are you telling. Cherchez. Just a load of BS. So he too. Can be bitter about not getting laid. Cause the guys says. She should be willing to suck my dick without any dates. After all you did talk to her for a few minutes when you met. Right. What more should it take.
If you guys were getting laid that fast and like that with AW you wouldn't be here complaining. Cherchez. You can listen to the "Simple Jack" bullshit if you want. That's the way you pick up a bona fide hoe.
But if you trying to get a woman. If it only took her 5 mins to suck your dick. How fast will she be on another.
Bango Cheito
04-05-11, 04:51
Littletruths is totally on.
Not only that, even if a girl DOES put out after a few dates, you've just set the whole relationship up for sex in return for expensive entertainment and favors.
I always start out on real cheap dates with girls to get a sense of if they're really interested in me or not.
I did some field research lately with online dating, on a whim I tried it. I never sent any emails to any woman, rather waited to see if anyone was interested in meeting me. To my surprise, many did, I have a couple pictures showing my "good side" maybe?
I learned a little bit more about their bullshit. On a couple of dates, the discussion was not going well, if my conversation catches them in bullshit or nonsense, this means we've got a problem. What interested me was I got the distinct feeling that two of the women extended our date into having dinner together *to get back at me for spite*. At the time I didn't think about it, but afterwards I realized it.
Some of them were really hot, I was surpised. They all have issues making them somewhat "radioactive" however. Ukranian with 5 year old twins. Gorgeous Chinese with 3 yr old boy. A former Chinese model who was looking for a sugar daddy.
One was also nice, but I could tell she would not let me fuck her. But she does not to expect me to feed her if I see her. So I agree to see her once every week or so, have a coffee and then she makes me a nice meal.
She told me she had been out with some dude a few times and she thinks he won't see her again."I didn't have sex with him, and we had been on a few dates." She KNEW that if she didn't put out her pussy, he would stop taking her out. He didn't text her back since their last sexless meeting. She was a little bit bummed, now she's going to be bored on Saturday night.
She is still hoping to meet some prince charming who will marry her. She is divorced and has kids but they live with the father. This unusual situation may be a red flag, she may be a bit nuts.
I make her laugh when I mentioned some of the fat old women who contacted me on the dating site, I think they're nuts to even think some guy would like to meet them.
She knows that men don't want to just hang out with women, we want sex or we don't spend much time.
She also agrees that all women think their pussy has value, they never trade pussy for nothing. It is traded for meals in restaurants, trips, gifts, and serious relationships and commitment, sometimes houses, kids and retirement accounts.
I'm not on that website any more, it was an experiment but although I met some pretty hot women, they all were seeking marriage and financial salvation, which is not on my agenda. Others were just so over the hill and fat it wasn't even possible.
The American women whom I had contact with had such amazingly unreal expectations and posted pics of them traveling around the world, riding horses and cavorting inside their beautiful (ex husband's) house.
So, to meet someone it's for coffee only. I'll spend just $5 to see if she looks like her pictures.
ThatGuy865
04-05-11, 16:47
Society as a whole. Has a double standard for women. While most guys (me included) wish women would have sex as quickly as a man would. The overall Majority of men in the world would not accept this woman as a partner. Considering her a **** and not worthy to marry or be associated with on a serious relationship. That's just the facts.
So women who act (like a man when it comes to sex) get labeled and have a much harder time ever finding a boyfiend / husband. Which is the goal of most people in society. Raising a family.
Therefore one has to blame society and the established culture that sets the environment that you guys complain about. If a woman, wants a husband / boyfriend. It to her benefit. Not to appear to be ALWAYS Easy.
Not sure of the authors name, it's an oldie but a GOODIE! All so TRUE!
The mindset of american women and their valuation of their pussy is so fucked up, IMHO. It's all about what your looking for, and the research you put into it. I've been in the game a super long time, and I'm a cheap ass, so I read alot, and have learned to read between the lines. I'm also willing to compromise on a couple of things to get a better deal and / or a better outcome.
I'm willing to sacrifice on a really smoking hot body for a little less perfect that will work harder to compensate.
I'm willing to sacrifice on a young 'un just getting into the game who doesn't know jackshit about life or sexuality for somone a little older who knows what she's in the game for, and how she can get some pleasure out of the deal while she's in.
I'm willing to spend a little more time trying to get the chick off so that she won't remember me as the dude who fucked like a jackrabbit. Don't get it twisted, I'm not giving her the BFE, but I just don't beat it up, and run. Women remember who did what and how, and remember to not answer your next call. And those that don't remember, put a note next to your name and phone number in their address book that reminds them. I've seen it.
I could probably write a book with all of the shit that goes into calculating the risk / reward of a particular target, but I won't bore you.
Light skinned women have been told all their life that they're fine as wine, and that it doesn't get better than them. A mixed girl has been told that she's exotic and that she has the best from both (whatever her parents are) worlds. American women have been told all their life that thin is in. Put the 2 together into a small light-skinned or mixed girl, and you've got a bad azz combination. Literally! You're looking for a woman who thinks she's the cream of the crop, and has been told so over and over. She hasn't had to work hard for shit in her life. No surprise that most of them don't perform.
Women in the game (meaning: strip clubs, CL, women you date) use either their looks to attract you. If she doesn't have looks, she'll use the pussy. Usually IN THAT ORDER. Best believe that if they have the looks, they'd rather not use their pussy, or use it as little as possible. If they have no looks, they'll have amazing pussy, or amazing tricks to show you.
We could go on for a while, but I'm going to put my Ph. D. In Punany Philosophy away for a while, and step off the soap box.
Now, back to the pussy. All this talk is putting me on the hunt.
LittleTruths
04-06-11, 01:54
So why do you guys complain if you're able to get AW. Like that. No meal. Get the digits. Call her over. Throw a DVD in and you strokin that ass. Whats to complaints about. If thats how its working for you guys.
Or are you telling. Cherchez. Just a load of BS. So he too. Can be bitter about not getting laid. Cause the guys says. She should be willing to suck my dick without any dates. After all you did talk to her for a few minutes when you met. Right. What more should it take. Chill, the only one around here having an agenda is you, even tho it is a terribly hopeless and kinda funny one at that.
Bottomline, I was trying to point out how you don't need much to see any signal of interest in women you interact with. For a thing to work there must be interest that goes both ways, and you see that right from the start; you talk nice and she talks nice, you get close and she gets close, you send an sms and she gets back at you. Naturally. It's about two persons taking steps towards each other, that's what attraction is.
You don't need to lure a woman with dinners and entertainment in the hope that she developes interest towards you because that just won't happen. If she is interested in you then you both will be happy to find some time for each other and hopefully get comfortable and intimate as a result. It's pretty simple.
Try to fault THAT advice if you can.
WTF should it take to get some? You can take a girl out, but there HAVE to be something beforehand that encourages you to do so (and not only your wishful thinking) and the prospect of a "closing" afterwards of course; in the end, are you taking her for dinner so that you can get comfy and then fuck her silly or is it just so that you can then go back to your place alone and play with your dick while calling her name?
And you know what? I also think that the whole PUA thingy is utter bullshit. Making it come across like in order to get women you need to learn and carry out a bunch of tricks, LOL. All you "need to do" is to simply fucking talk to them, to show that you're not a weirdo and you're comfortable, confident, have some grip on reality. And even if at first you might not be comfortable nor confident and somewhat awkward perhaps, sure after having talked to ten or a hundred of them it will all come together, that's the "trick"; no trick at all. In the end some will like you and some will not, but the whole point is you making contact and opening the door for things to happen.
BTW, personally I have never complained of how hard it is to get laid; all I have ever been complaining about, if anything, is women being a bunch of h0es, but that's another story.
Mr Enternational
04-06-11, 03:29
You guys are hitting the nail on the head if I ever saw it. Sex has never been a problem. For me it is the bad attitudes of the AWs that is the problem. And that over time, coupled with the amount of traveling that I do has taught me that there is better out there and I don't have to put up with their shit. Guys that never leave their block don't know any better so it is natural to them to have to put up with the bull shit.
Society as a whole. Has a double standard for women. While most guys (me included) wish women would have sex as quickly as a man would. The overall Majority of men in the world would not accept this woman as a partner. Considering her a **** and not worthy to marry or be associated with on a serious relationship. That's just the facts.I have never thought of a woman who fucked on the first date any different than one who waits until the 10th. Actually I like the first one better and don't consider her to be a ho. I consider her to be a woman who knows what she wants and is not afraid of herself. Sometimes women talk about guys who have sex a lot. My response to them is,"Well who are they fucking?" Women. That is the answer. They are not going around fucking each other. Women are fucking just as much as guys but society wants to act like they are not. There are no imaginary beings that a guy pulls out of thin air when he wants to fuck. He calls up Suzy down the street or the girl at the grocery store; if they don't call him first.
So women who act (like a man when it comes to sex) get labeled and have a much harder time ever finding a boyfiend / husband. Which is the goal of most people in society. Raising a family.
If a woman, wants a husband / boyfriend. It to her benefit. Not to appear to be ALWAYS Easy. I don't get this. You are assuming that most people want to get married but women can't if they have sex on the first few dates. IMHO it is just the opposite. I think most long term relationships develop when the people consummate it on the first few dates. If not then one or the other is going to be fed up and soon be ready to kick the other person to the curb even if sex takes place soon after. If I have to get married then I want it to be to someone who is just as big of a freak as I am and not to Conservative Constance.
ThatGuy865
04-06-11, 05:21
I have never thought of a woman who fucked on the first date any different than one who waits until the 10th. Actually I like the first one better and don't consider her to be a ho. I consider her to be a woman who knows what she wants and is not afraid of herself. Sometimes women talk about guys who have sex a lot. My response to them is,"Well who are they fucking?" Women. That is the answer. They are not going around fucking each other. Women are fucking just as much as guys but society wants to act like they are not. There are no imaginary beings that a guy pulls out of thin air when he wants to fuck. He calls up Suzy down the street or the girl at the grocery store; if they don't call him first.Come on let not kid our selves. The girl who was easy to fuck has always been called a ****, hoe, or what ever. Where did these terms come from if society has a whole. Not specifically you guys because that goes against what mongering is about. So of course it doesn't describe most here. But society as a whole does look at women like that. As I said most guys. Don't want to think their wife was some one who every guy she went on a date with was able to fuck her. .
I don't get this. You are assuming that most people want to get married but women can't if they have sex on the first few dates. .I said after ONE date. If that was ALWAYS all it took for her to screw, she would be labeled a hoe. . But. Sure after a FEW dates. It does seem feasible.
IMHO it is just the opposite. I think most long term relationships develop when the people consummate it on the first few dates. If not then one or the other is going to be fed up and soon be ready to kick the other person to the curb even if sex takes place soon after. If I have to get married then I want it to be to someone who is just as big of a freak as I am and not to Conservative Constance.I'd agree with after a FEW dates. Its definitely expected. 3 to 4. No more than that. If 3 or 4 dates are too expensive / not worth the time or hassle for you. Then leave the "dating" game to those who don't mind.
Don't hate the players. Hate the game
DJ FourMoney
04-06-11, 10:40
DJ4M. My post was not directed at you in particular but rather the overall concept of guys complaining (here and in Colombia) about the lack of interest of white / light-skinned women, but if you identified with it, I find that interesting. BTW I chose Beyonce since she is considered one of the most beautiful AA women and is light-skinned. And please don't talk about her being married to an ugly thug, we ALL know that if you are rich and famous you can have just about any woman you want.
The issue is not Beyonce's personal life but the fact that I feel cultural brainwashing has led everyone to believe that certain types of women (light-skinned, thin) are more desirable but yet those women may have normal, natural and healthy desires to date those within their race. Doesn't make 'them rayciss and it doesn't make life unfair.
I really don't know and don't care what AA women think or what they are like, it just doesn't interest me SO I don't know where you are coming from. I DO however understand what you wrote about black US culture denigrating book smarts and studying and glamorizing any way of life that produces and flaunts $$. It's a shame and one of the causes of the ills that afflict AA society.
Just so you know, of my 4 black friends (2 close and 2 friends from jr high I keep in touch with) the 2 who are African and came here young are married with a young child, one is married to an African woman and the other to an AA woman.
The 2 other gentlemen are AA and both are unmarried and have baby mommas.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.
I also understand to what you said about relating to the middle class white kids better than 2 the poor AA kids who were bused in. A (white) friend of mine who immigrated to the US had the same experience- he had a funny name, was not cool and was picked on by the other kids in his lily-white suburb. He got along really well with the poor AA kids who were bused in from the ghetto since they were both outsiders. I understand manye no sweat. My point about Mrs Jay Z is that he was a hustling drug dealer (much like 50 Cent) before it looked like he could make money the legit way. Because he owned his own label with Damon Dash a brotha from a Upper Middle Class upbring looking for Street Cred. Like much of Rap its Studio Gangstas with a few real former (can current) criminals thrown in for again "Street Cred".
Its BECAUSE he had money she overlooked his past and married him anyway. He's lucky he never got caught and didn't do a bid on the island.
I've always had friends it didn't matter what side of the tracks you came from. Women however size you up from early on. Just like that white hoochie who attached herself to my cousin Brian when he was the star running back at Idaho State. You should have heard her, spending his NFL signing bonus and he still had a full season to play. Now luckily he saw what she was about and dropped her because she would have been disappointed about him getting drafted but only spending 3 years in the league mostly on injured reserve. Besides his British Wife is MUCH BETTER LOOKING.
I do agree about some BM being butt hurt about some of the problems with South American Women. Most don't understand there is a color problem in South America as well. Just look on TV, look at the women who win major competitions. That's why much of Western Media was shocked when Evo Morales became President of Bolivia, he looks much more like the native population of Bolivia than the White Skined conquistadors that typically are apart of the ruling elite in these countries. I will say its much more of a class issue than racism. The poorest people in Mexico are Mexican Indians (sound familiar?) and its no different in Colombia where Afro-Colombians are often the poorest in the country.
DJ FourMoney
04-06-11, 10:41
There is so much bullshit in American culture brainwashing the country that they are #1 for everything. I am constantly arguing with my friends who are still stuck there that America is awful and there are much better countries to live in.
With only 28% of the population having passports, what do we expect? 70% having never left the country is pure ignorance if they have any opinion whatsoever on where the best place to live in the world is. I'm always surprised when ThatGuy comes on here praising America. ThatGuy have you lived in any places that were not 3rd world?
As far as hip hop culture in America, I can't stand it. As it keeps getting bigger I think it is making AW even less desirable (if that's even possible). Again one of the many things from America I hope does not spread far and wide. Too late. Its all over, you're not one of the ones complaining about 50 Cent being played in Help! Before it closed in Rio where you?
DJ FourMoney
04-06-11, 10:45
LOL, classic!
Feel free to get rid of this nonsense and flush it down the toilet together with whoever is supporting it. You don't wine and dine random beeatches just to check if some good might come out of it, well, unless you receive some kind of twisted satisfaction by doing that.
Don't be a sucker, it's nice to be nice but just to people who deserves it, people who you are really interested in and that harbor the same interest towards you in return. Other than that you're putting yourself in to be taken for a free ride or free meal ticket. Two or three dates my dick! Who you think you're dating, the virgin mary perhaps? These women have been giving heads to random dudes in club's toilets, what the hell are you trying to get out of them that'd take dates and dates to get? It baffles me.
You meet someone, if there is a good vibe about it and interest on both sides then there is no miracle to be made nor rabbit out a hat to be pulled, your goal is penis in vagina and that's what you go for, as quick as possible, straight out the club if possible or even into it! If that's not the case (sometimes it isn't) , then you exchange digits and try working it out; a few sms, maybe a quick call, you'll know if she is interested. If she is, you call her out on a date, bearing in mind that date means "I take you dining, I might take you for drinks or clubbing even, but then I fuck you up the ass", and that's what it is.
You don't need to waste your perfectly good money on random h0es' entertainment, you can buy yourself some good pussy with that same money instead! And here we been talking about girls in thir twenties! 'cause if we talk milfs then she should have your dick in her mouth even before you ever get to sit together at the ice cream parlor.
No, you can't. Unless you like to waste time, that is. They know it straight away if they're going to fuck you or not, no need to waste time and money and effort into cultivating immaginary relationships.
BlessClassic +1
LittleTruths
04-06-11, 13:21
I understand manye no sweat. My point about Mrs Jay Z is that he was a hustling drug dealer (much like 50 Cent) before it looked like he could make money the legit way. Because he owned his own label with Damon Dash a brotha from a Upper Middle Class upbring looking for Street Cred. Like much of Rap its Studio Gangstas with a few real former (can current) criminals thrown in for again "Street Cred".
Its BECAUSE he had money she overlooked his past and married him anyway. He's lucky he never got caught and didn't do a bid on the island. I don't buy into anything these bullshit entertainers say. It is fashionable to niccas to be an ex-con or a thug that made it big and got out of the game, but it's all complete and utter bullshit. Master P can sing about how to cook crack but then he goes back home and gets bitched at by his wife, he doesn't get back home and start cooking bricks to keep a spot running. In the meantime, these idiots glorify this kind of bullshit and fuck up the perception of young impressionable guys that take the shit they talk about for good. It's really pathetic actually. No one of the past and present entertainers has ever been anything in the street other than a poor fuck that sold a couple of rocks to buy some bread to eat. And the whole concept of "street cred" is nothing but more idiocy, how comes an idiot that has been arrested 15 times on car theft is anything good? It's a poor idiot that can't even steal cars without getting arrested, it's an idiot that can't get away with anything, now how can THAT kind of guy make you look good in any way for fuck's sake? LOL.
Beyonce married Jay Z because we live in the present and he is filthy rich. No matter that perhaps he might have sold a bag of weed 20 years ago.
Bless
DJ FourMoney
04-07-11, 09:22
I don't buy into anything these bullshit entertainers say. It is fashionable to niccas to be an ex-con or a thug that made it big and got out of the game, but it's all complete and utter bullshit. Master P can sing about how to cook crack but then he goes back home and gets bitched at by his wife, he doesn't get back home and start cooking bricks to keep a spot running. In the meantime, these idiots glorify this kind of bullshit and fuck up the perception of young impressionable guys that take the shit they talk about for good. It's really pathetic actually. No one of the past and present entertainers has ever been anything in the street other than a poor fuck that sold a couple of rocks to buy some bread to eat. And the whole concept of "street cred" is nothing but more idiocy, how comes an idiot that has been arrested 15 times on car theft is anything good? It's a poor idiot that can't even steal cars without getting arrested, it's an idiot that can't get away with anything, now how can THAT kind of guy make you look good in any way for fuck's sake? LOL.
Beyonce married Jay Z because we live in the present and he is filthy rich. No matter that perhaps he might have sold a bag of weed 20 years ago.
BlessThis is true, however its a double standard. Women often times hold your past relationships and activities against you. Yes his money covers his tracks I didn't say it didn't and his old activities will not be held against him, legally anyway.
Still a bad analogy, I was bumping around Latin Euro and found a Dominican cutie that would give Beyonce a run for her money.
LittleTruths
04-07-11, 14:51
This is true, however its a double standard. Women often times hold your past relationships and activities against you. Yes his money covers his tracks I didn't say it didn't and his old activities will not be held against him, legally anyway.
Still a bad analogy, I was bumping around Latin Euro and found a Dominican cutie that would give Beyonce a run for her money. Actually, most women would try and use whatever they can against you sooner or later. But it's up to you what they'll eventually get away with. Whenever a woman tries to use against me some about my past relationships / women (and mind you I carry tattooed on my chest the name of an ex gal of mine!) what I shut their beaks with is something along the lines of "if you wanted me virgin you should have come around about twenty years ago, but the truth is that you wouldn't want me virgin so shut the fuck up!". I give you permission, feel free to use it if you need! LOL.
Bless
P.S.// Latin Euro you say huh? Might go and have a look! Thanks!
Chocha Monger
04-08-11, 01:18
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/07/ashley-steele-prostitute-_n_846133.html?icid=main%7Chp-laptop%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%7C209088
LittleTruths
04-09-11, 08:58
Related to women's aging and the discussion going on a few days ago touching the subject of dating milfs; http://www.imdb.com/news/ni5030686/
LOL
Bunny Hunter
04-10-11, 20:38
Why didn't I know this before? Well thanks for the advice re:milfs. Believe me I will follow it. 2 dates max. In fact I kept thinking to myslef 'She's an older woman, she's decided if she's going to bang me or not"
But a younger girl I can give more time than just the 2nd date- correct? I know the rule is usually 3 dates for something sexy to happen. Here, Cherchezfemme, read this:
http://www.laddertheory.com/
It kind of puts things regarding AW behavior into proper perspective, IMHO.
Oh Ya Papi
04-10-11, 22:29
And why does everyone always say I'm bitter just because 99. 999% of chicks are bitches?
Criticism: I have lots of male friends who would never think of me that way blah blah blah.
Answer: Your friend doesn't find you attractive, or he's currently doing better, or he's gay or you're wrong.
Criticism: That's not true.
Answer: Yes it is.
Love it!
Here, Cherchezfemme, read this:
http://www.laddertheory.com/
It kind of puts things regarding AW behavior into proper perspective, IMHO.
Bango Cheito
04-11-11, 16:11
And why does everyone always say I'm bitter just because 99. 999% of chicks are bitches?
Criticism: I have lots of male friends who would never think of me that way blah blah blah.
Answer: Your friend doesn't find you attractive, or he's currently doing better, or he's gay or you're wrong.
Criticism: That's not true.
Answer: Yes it is.
Love it! And there is one of the bigger cultural differences between Colombia and North America. Here you can be friends with a women and LATER seduce her. Happens all the time. The question is, why would you want to waste so much time on such a thing?
Australiasucks
04-13-11, 21:47
Russia will rise again! LOL.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/8435353/Russian-erotic-anti-corruption-calendar-produced-by-pro-Putin-youth-movement-Nashi.html
And why does everyone always say I'm bitter just because 99. 999% of chicks are bitches?
Criticism: I have lots of male friends who would never think of me that way blah blah blah.
Answer: Your friend doesn't find you attractive, or he's currently doing better, or he's gay or you're wrong.
Criticism: That's not true.
Answer: Yes it is.
Love it! One thing this guy misses is the phenomena of "guy friends" seems to be much more prevalent than just ten years ago. When I'm out on the prowl, the vast majority of groups consist of one or two women with three to four guys around them. I used to assume they were dating, but instead its a sick abuser game of boring women that can't entertain themselves and desperate guys in waiting. Ten years ago, women had women friends because women usually had different interests, like decorating or fashion. It's become so prevalent that I don't know if it's concious anymore, for the guy or the girl.
One thing for certain is, even if a guy has no romantic interest in a woman, it is very unlikely he would really want a close female friend anyway. He can't talk about girls to the woman or sports or any many topics. Even if the woman did have identical interests, let's face it: one casualty of living in a chivalrous, sexually oppressed society is that women aren't forced to be as witty or cultured as men (since men will be gravitating toward them regardless). I suppose it's like being a minor celebrity, just sit back and let others entertain you. Men aren't the only ones suffering from this distorted turn of events; women can no longer stand each others' company and are too boring to create diversions.
And then there are the fag hags who can't stand either one. Lets face it. We annoy each other. It pains me to even gaze upon those types of situations you mentioned. Why do guys let themselves melt like that?
A long time ago a very attractive girl invited me to her house for what I though was a nice time. Once I get there another guy shows up. Two guys and one hot girl. Too bad she was missing popcorn because that was all that was missing. I said f it and left.
It happened to me again later in life by a MILF. When a MILF tries that crap it leaves you scared for life.
I don't entertain for women in those types of situations. Some guys are into it though.
QUOTE=Jesterl; 1145506]One thing this guy misses is the phenomena of "guy friends" seems to be much more prevalent than just ten years ago. When I'm out on the prowl, the vast majority of groups consist of one or two women with three to four guys around them. I used to assume they were dating, but instead its a sick abuser game of boring women that can't entertain themselves and desperate guys in waiting. Ten years ago, women had women friends because women usually had different interests, like decorating or fashion. It's become so prevalent that I don't know if it's concious anymore, for the guy or the girl.
One thing for certain is, even if a guy has no romantic interest in a woman, it is very unlikely he would really want a close female friend anyway. He can't talk about girls to the woman or sports or any many topics. Even if the woman did have identical interests, let's face it: one casualty of living in a chivalrous, sexually oppressed society is that women aren't forced to be as witty or cultured as men (since men will be gravitating toward them regardless). I suppose it's like being a minor celebrity, just sit back and let others entertain you. Men aren't the only ones suffering from this distorted turn of events; women can no longer stand each others' company and are too boring to create diversions. [/QUOTE]
Chocha Monger
04-16-11, 19:33
pussy access is part of a meritocracy. if you earned or inherited mad paper then you'll have all the access to pussy that you could ever want or need. poor men will always be denied access to quality pussy. it's just the way our species work. the men who are better at accumulating wealth, power, and status get to bust big ass nuts in the prettiest girls. the poor guys with little and nothing can cream in their hands or [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). that's just the way it is. even mongering is not exempt from economic reality. the higher quality girls charge more for their services. mongering does allow poor guys to scrape together some funds from time to time for a shot at some quality ass but it doesn't truly allow them to cheat the system. guys from the lower eco-economic strata who import women from abroad will find that they cannot hold on to those women for long as they inevitably trade up. the laws of nature apply. this is not a bad thing. if unsuccessful men were allowed the same access to top tier pussy as successful ones our society, and indeed, our entire species would collapse. it makes sense for nature to reward wealthy ambitious men with good pussy and to prevent the failures from breeding or limiting their options to women on their level. even animals protect the integrity of their dna in a similar manner.
pussy access is part of a meritocracy. if you earned or inherited mad paper then you'll have all the access to pussy that you could ever want or need. poor men will always be denied access to quality pussy. it's just the way our species work. the men who are better at accumulating wealth, power, and status get to bust big ass nuts in the prettiest girls. the poor guys with little and nothing can cream in their hands or [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). that's just the way it is. even mongering is not exempt from economic reality. the higher quality girls charge more for their services. mongering does allow poor guys to scrape together some funds from time to time for a shot at some quality ass but it doesn't truly allow them to cheat the system. guys from the lower eco-economic strata who import women from abroad will find that they cannot hold on to those women for long as they inevitably trade up. the laws of nature apply. this is not a bad thing. if unsuccessful men were allowed the same access to top tier pussy as successful ones our society, and indeed, our entire species would collapse. it makes sense for nature to reward wealthy ambitious men with good pussy and to prevent the failures from breeding or limiting their options to women on their level. even animals protect the integrity of their dna in a similar manner.granted i'm still pretty young, but money doesn't buy love. i've dated some pretty high powered women in relationships with older, wealthier men. i've also observed the expat criminals in miami and their rinse and repeat cycle with high-end women. money may garner increased interest from women, but bought love will find a man used and divorced by their trophy wife.
as someone familiar with medical education, i see this all the time. in fact, professional men are the easiest targets for mercenary women. our income is tied to a license, which is arbitrarily wielded by a state agency. upon divorce, the woman gets everything; any private matter that comes by the police enters the public domain and the licensing board takes action. there is no legal recourse. it's called moral turpitude.
people in the medical field can have all they worked for taken away at the drop of a hat-this breeds meekness. if you've ever wondered why physicians worked in concentration camps or participated in the phs's syphills study for decades without blowing the whistle, this is the reason.
as someone who has had the pleasure of living abroad (albeit all-too-briefly) , i've dated some amazing, pure women without spending a dime. even in the usa money will only take you so far.
PanamaPimpin
04-17-11, 04:52
www.xvideoslive.com
On the above Webcam site. This is the exact example of how shity American Chicks are compared to the rest of the Market out there. Notice distincly how much more beautiful the other Women from Latin America, South Afr, Europe are in Comparison to the overpriced chicks from the States. Jeez not to mention some of the ridiculous rates from some of these same American CHICKS $3. 99. $5. 99 per minute!
A sexy Columbiana, or Brazilian young or old is only $1. 99. A lucky fella can jack to something looking like Shakira or Rihanna for way less!
They'll never learn. MONGER ON BRETHEREN!
Did I miss it, or did anybody already offer opinions on this:
While David Arquette's TMI rampage following the announcement of his separation from Courteney Cox was a surprise to fans, what may be more shocking is that Cox is now getting in on the action.
In an interview with Howard Stern yesterday, the estranged couple discussed their sex life at length, leaving little to the imagination.
When probed by Stern regarding Arquette's reported advances on Cox during a trip to Disney World with their daughter Coco. 6, the actress said frankly,"It was early in the morning. This is one of our problems in our relationship. Whenever I would need consoling from David, he could not literally put his arm around me for one second without completely getting a boner."
Cox told Stern that, despite her husband's admitted flings following their separation,"I have not had sex," since the split, denying that she is romantically involved with her 'Cougar Town' co-star Josh Hopkins.
While Cox had said just weeks before of her ex, who recently celebrated his 100th day of sobriety,"He looks the best he's ever looked. He's doing great. He's just awesome," she admitted that she was hesitant to become intimate with him again."I don't want to confuse the issue," she said."We're going through a hard time."
"I'm always ready for [Courteney]," said Arquette."I know I'm more in touch with what she needs now. She takes one sort of thing and she clumps it [and says] that's what happens all the time in our relationship. It's not really true."
Cox told Stern that in the past, Arquette had supported her through difficult times, including her father's death in 2001, but she seemed far from ready to get back together. After Arquette accused her of being "over it," Cox admitted,"The truth of the matter is that we love each other so much. We have such affection for each other but we are very different."
Well, I am almost eligible for parole after eight long months in SP. Fortunately I got down to Argentina for 23 days and Costa Rica for 6 so I managed to stay sort of sane. The medical marijuana was very helpful in that regard. Basically I just stayed totally baked and worked my ass off. Screwed a total of four AW in eight months and none of them were any good. The one who was even average was a complete nut job. I guess it was a success because I saved up about forty grand (I worked two jobs most of the time and three jobs the first two months) , got a bunch of medical work done because the insurance was good, and now I can fuck off on unemployment and COBRA for a good long while. Too bad I have to go back to smoking bunk, though.
Mr Enternational
04-17-11, 23:22
When probed by Stern regarding Arquette's reported advances on Cox during a trip to Disney World with their daughter Coco. 6, the actress said frankly,"It was early in the morning. This is one of our problems in our relationship. Whenever I would need consoling from David, he could not literally put his arm around me for one second without completely getting a boner."How is that a problem? She should enjoy it while it lasts.
Australiasucks
04-19-11, 08:30
pussy access is part of a meritocracy. if you earned or inherited mad paper then you'll have all the access to pussy that you could ever want or need. poor men will always be denied access to quality pussy. it's just the way our species work. the men who are better at accumulating wealth, power, and status get to bust big ass nuts in the prettiest girls. the poor guys with little and nothing can cream in their hands or [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). that's just the way it is. even mongering is not exempt from economic reality. the higher quality girls charge more for their services. mongering does allow poor guys to scrape together some funds from time to time for a shot at some quality ass but it doesn't truly allow them to cheat the system. guys from the lower eco-economic strata who import women from abroad will find that they cannot hold on to those women for long as they inevitably trade up. the laws of nature apply. this is not a bad thing. if unsuccessful men were allowed the same access to top tier pussy as successful ones our society, and indeed, our entire species would collapse. it makes sense for nature to reward wealthy ambitious men with good pussy and to prevent the failures from breeding or limiting their options to women on their level. even animals protect the integrity of their dna in a similar manner.that is nonsense, what you say mainly applies to the usa. i live in australia, and any good looking bloke with a job can get laid with good pussy. its in america, where you are poor, you are fucked. europe is also way superior to america in this regard.
america sucks ass these days. fuck the usa.
That is nonsense, what you say mainly applies to the USA. I live in Australia, and any good looking bloke with a job can get laid with good pussy. Its in America, where you are poor, you are fucked. Europe is also way superior to America in this regard.
America sucks ass these days. Fuck the USA. Last time I checked this was a forum about AW........No!
Australiasucks
04-21-11, 04:24
Last time I checked this was a forum about AW........No!I was responding to Chocha, he said that all around the world you need money to get pussy, its not necessarily true, and its not true in Australia. Many guys get laid who not have boatloads of money.
Last time I checked this was a forum about AW........No!Yeah, true, but badmouthing AWs and badmouthing America go hand in hand. Some recent observations:
1. Has anyone that mongers in the USA on here noticed an increase in the amount of girls selling themselves in this country? It seems like every apartment complex / chain hotel in my area has women hooking out of them. Just today I got back from a two-bedroom apartment only 10 miles from where I live that has essentially been converted into an Asian brothel. Has this always been going on and I'm just late to the party, or is this a recent phenomenon because of the economy?
2. Another observation, is it just me or are people getting ruder here? Common courtesy and good manners seem to have gone the way of the dodo. And many Americans seem pissed off, stressed out or just plain depressed. Maybe I'm just meeting the wrong ones?
3. Gas is at $4. 29 / gal for regular here in CA, gold is at $1, 500 / oz. And USA dollar is at a three-year low. Can anyone else say double dip?
BlackCoffee
04-21-11, 23:57
Yeah, true, but badmouthing AWs and badmouthing America go hand in hand. Some recent observations:
2. Another observation, is it just me or are people getting ruder here? Common courtesy and good manners seem to have gone the way of the dodo. And many Americans seem pissed off, stressed out or just plain depressed. Maybe I'm just meeting the wrong ones? I know one thing for sure; I'm a gun dealer in VA. And I see a lot of single women and middle aged folks buying guns for the first time. The fear is palpable. BC
This article is complete bullshit. What they are talking about is this superficial carrie bradshaw world / bubble that the media has created. Only a small population of NY fits into that mold. Hanging at the latest lounge eating overpriced grub hiring personal trainers shopping at whole foods. The rest of us here live like animals and whack of to free craigslist photos.
The funny thing is most of the people into that scene aren't true new yorkers! These are people who moved here in the past ten years since it became a safe police state. They see sex and the city on TV and they come here searching for it OR better yet CREATE IT.
This city is monkey see monkey do. This has been going on for ten years now. If anybody has the brains or money they would leave. Most people are stuck here. Its a vicious cycle to get out of.
If you live in the outeer boroughs like the bronx queens or Brooklyn you might do a little better. Things are a little more kickback but you need to be with your own group or sect ie puerto rican men find women black guys find women in their area asians etc. But when you look at it universally most men will tell you Saturday night is a dud!
Don't believe all these little quirky NYC is so fabulous articles that pop up. They are written by people that have no idea what NYC is. The new TREND is to upsell NYC because so many locals view it as a living hell.
I guess if I shopped at whole foods and had some shmuck buy me dinner a few times a week. Plugged into a huge social network I might think differently but that isn't where most guys here fit in.
Did I mention no smoking in parks and beaches in 2 months? There goes the only pick up line I know " do you have a light?"I completely support Artisttyp. The NYC is a big dud. A hellhole.
Chocha Monger
04-22-11, 08:08
It is the best of times. It is the worst of times. Life in the US is great for the monger with a good reliable income. There are a lot of desperate women that have fallen on lean times. The credit card companies tightened the noose around their necks and opulent lifestyles on borrowed money came to sudden halt. Men got hit pretty hard by the recession so there are less suckers willing or able to take women shopping or pay their bills. Instead of doing without, a lot of women have turned to hooking. Those positioned to take advantage of the local market couldn't be happier.
A lot of Americans saw their dreams of home ownership dashed and their job security blown away like leaves on an autumn wind. Rising gas prices hasn't helped. Most Americans love their large SUVs and trucks. Rather than change their vehicles and driving habits they chafe at the higher price at the pump. It's a perfect storm of frustration that manifests itself is rudeness and dour dispositions.
Fear and loathing is definitely at an all time high. I am not surprised that single women and middle aged people may be buying guns for the first time in increasing numbers. I know a few people who turned guns on themselves at the height of the recession when all hope was lost.
DJ FourMoney
04-22-11, 17:50
Yeah, true, but badmouthing AWs and badmouthing America go hand in hand. Some recent observations:
1. Has anyone that mongers in the USA on here noticed an increase in the amount of girls selling themselves in this country? It seems like every apartment complex / chain hotel in my area has women hooking out of them. Just today I got back from a two-bedroom apartment only 10 miles from where I live that has essentially been converted into an Asian brothel. Has this always been going on and I'm just late to the party, or is this a recent phenomenon because of the economy?
2. Another observation, is it just me or are people getting ruder here? Common courtesy and good manners seem to have gone the way of the dodo. And many Americans seem pissed off, stressed out or just plain depressed. Maybe I'm just meeting the wrong ones?
3. Gas is at $4. 29 / gal for regular here in CA, gold is at $1, 500 / oz. And USA dollar is at a three-year low. Can anyone else say double dip? I can.
I think when gas hits $5 a gallon as the national average, not just California all bets are off.
Member #2041
04-23-11, 00:56
It is the best of times. It is the worst of times. Life in the US is great for the monger with a good reliable income. There are a lot of desperate women that have fallen on lean times. The credit card companies tightened the noose around their necks and opulent lifestyles on borrowed money came to sudden halt. Men got hit pretty hard by the recession so there are less suckers willing or able to take women shopping or pay their bills. Instead of doing without, a lot of women have turned to hooking. Those positioned to take advantage of the local market couldn't be happier.This is the absolute truth. I live in San Diego, and I happened to retire comfortably after cashing out in the tech bubble. I used to travel overseas many times a year, and go down to Tijuana every couple of weeks when I was home to get my action. Nowadays, there is an extreme abundance of supply of hookers at great prices right here in the USA. I haven't been to Tijuana in a year, because I can't justify the 40 minute each way drive, and then the border wait, when I can find all the pussy I want on the American side of the border. I've been paying generally $80-100 for half hour FS sessions from good looking ladies who also provide good service, and occasionally as low as $60. That's a Tijuana price, and it can be gotten here in San Diego. I've even been getting BBBJ from many of the ladies I see at those prices, and the ones that don't, are generally stunners in looks.
Nowadays, whenever I call a new lady and she quotes me a price in the 3 digit range, I ask them if they can do $80 for a half hour, and more often than not, they say sure, no problem. These chicks need cash, and if you have it and are ready to spend it right now, the world is your oyster. I've got a handful of regulars who are reliable, and give me 30 minute sessions with DATY and BBBJ for $80, and I keep adding more ladies to the list. At those prices, I've been hitting it around twice a week over the past several months right here in San Diego.
TheStrongest
04-24-11, 10:58
... it is almost impossible to have a fling with a good-looking young American girl unless she is drunk or high...Fortunately a fair number of them are either drunk or high (often both) a good portion of the time. Really is it that different anywhere else? Tell me where you can consistently have one night stands (for free) with good-looking, young, classy (sober) women on a regular basis and I'm there.
Member #2041
04-24-11, 13:00
Fortunately a fair number of them are either drunk or high (often both) a good portion of the time. Really is it that different anywhere else? Tell me where you can consistently have one night stands (for free) with good-looking, young, classy (sober) women on a regular basis and I'm there.Who said anything about "classy"?
That is nonsense, what you say mainly applies to the USA. I live in Australia, and any good looking bloke with a job can get laid with good pussy. Its in America, where you are poor, you are fucked. Europe is also way superior to America in this regard.
America sucks ass these days. Fuck the USA. You need to go fuck yourself, asshole
Recently Kay Hymowitz's book came out. Where have all the good men gone?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/love/dating/where-have-all-the-good-men-gone/article1929246/
The comments on the article were revealing:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/love/dating/where-have-all-the-good-men-gone/article1929246/comments/
A sample:
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Fembot: What happened to all the good guys?
Men: You did!
And here is why?
1. Feminism intentionally drove a wedge between the sexes, you lose if you're over 30.
2. You are a nag.
3. You talk too much about irrelevant stuff.
4. You are overly emotional.
5. You over value your looks.
6. Men don't like older women.
7. You are quickly passing child rearing years.
8. You don't put out.
9. You have put out too much in your 20s.
10. You act superior despite being a basket case, you're fake.
11. You have the courts at your back to rob a man of his assets (many men know this now)
12. You can rob a man of his children (many men know this now)
13. You can falsely accuse a man of sexual assault and not face jail (men go ghost)
14. You can lie about domestic violence and rob a man of his home (men go ghost)
15. You view men as wallets.
16. You treat men as success objects instead of human beings.
17. You date bad boys and thugs, then visit the psychologist and ask,"why"?
18. You can cheat in a marriage, and still cash out his assets and get the children.
19. Despite bragging about independence, you still require alimony if he makes more than you.
20. You can force him into fatherhood against his will; usually correlated with his income.
It's amazing the author is blaming men. Men have checked out because the price is too high and the value very LOW.
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Here's the crux of the issue. Its not that men are man-childs. Men are in fact the more self reliant gender and better at, and more comfortable with, going it alone. Women tend to be more interested in unnecessary material possessions while men are more interested in the good life of enjoyable experiences.
Many male interests can be purchased if necessary (including sex) , and men have the biological advantage of being able to father children at almost any age. Accordingly men are more likely to be satisfied with the single life than women are. For us to give that up, the reward has to be worth the sacrifice. Traditional gender roles did this for the most part.
Over the past 50 years women have progressed to have more opportunities and can earn more money than ever before. All well and good. But what has gone hand in hand with this progress is the greater threat women pose to men.
Upon divorce, men can and are routinely (1) excluded from seeing their children, (2) made to pay spousal support, and (3) forced to give up half of the assets that they earned on their own. Meanwhile women are providing less incentives than before for marriage. It used to be that the one primary benefit of getting married was that you could have sex without any moral frowning by others. Now however, sex can be readily had outside of marriage, while its frequency during marriage has tended to drop.
So what is the value for men to get married? They get less and are victimized more. Moreover, as nice as it is that women are making more money, no self respecting man looks at a woman as a financial object other than to make sure she's not a financial basket case that is going to cost him what he has built. We have no princess fantasy that some woman is going to ride along and take our problems away. Men's requirements from marriage can be simply put as being with someone we enjoy for the long term.
So when we see that women are responsible for 80% of divorces and are rewarded for them at our expense, the problem is not man childs, but woman childs who are prone to take their ball home as soon as things don't go their way, and the ball was probably brought into the relationship by the man. The more relevat question is where have all the real women gone? Time to woman up ladies. We can make it fine on our own if need be. Can you?
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Here's another one from a younger guy (read #10271, below, first)
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Women wanted independence and equality and they got it. The problem now is there is no reason for anyone to get married. I am 28 years old and I have a lot of friends, both male and female, and I have only been to one wedding since high school. Virtually all my friends are either single or in semi-long term relationships that will probably not end at the grave. Even the ones that have children are mostly single. Feminism has destroyed marriage, plain and simple.
I personally as a man don't really consider this all that bad. I've only had one serious relationship in my life, and a few that the women involved thought were serious but weren't to me. Why should I put up with nonsensical, over emotional, irrationality when I simply do not have too? I can pack up and leave whenever I want. This is the issue: perhaps men are starting to see relationships as disposable while women are the ones still clinging onto the past.
I never plan to marry or "settle down" ever. I may have children, I may have long term relationships, but I will never fully commit to one woman. The risk is just too high, female independence has taken away relationship security for men. Why would I risk losing everything I've spent my life working for in a divorce?
The fact of the matter is that I simply don't need a committed relationship. If I want sexual gratification I can pretend I care about a women long enough to get that, sometimes it only takes one night. Paying for it is an option for a lot of men as well, as is internet porn. This might sound cynical but it is simply the reality of life. Considering their expectations the losers from all this are mostly women but I would say men lose too, particularly those that actually want a marriage. I see no solution to this and for people like me perhaps there really is no problem solve.
Maybe women have to change their attitudes to be more in line with what I have just said in the proceeding paragraphs. Perhaps if woman change their attitudes and expectations to be more in line with men this great misunderstanding will evaporate and we can all enjoy peace harmony and free love.
Unfortunately, and contrary to feminist beliefs I am familiar with, this simply won't happen because womens brains are hardwired to seek out committed relationships and mens are programmed to spread the love. Woman are just reaping what they have sewed. Our society has become feminized. Men don't even know what it means to be men anymore.
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OK, you say, what about just "bad dating relationships"?
How do you define "bad"? It does not live up to expectations. However, are these expectations realistic?
My friend's divorce lawyer said 80% of divorces are initiated by women. If we say 80% of all relationships are ended by women (for example), that means 80% of all relationships did not meet the WOMAN's expectations.
This means either
(1) the woman has TOO HIGH expectations
(2) the expectations are realistic, but the man simply didn't meet them.
If (2), then why could practically NO MAN meet these expectations (remember, 80% were initiated by women). How could all these women have such BAD LUCK to meet one of those MANY "bad men".
So, logically, only answer (1) is realistic, because if very few men can live up to those expectations, then those expectations are too high.
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Men have had enough. All the marrying up/down crp. What happened to getting married because you love someone? maybe Im naive.
Im very unhappily married with a child. Love the child cant stand the wife. She feels the same way yet wont let me go.
Every married man I know except 1 or 2 hates their marriage also. And most of it revolves around the wives wanting to run the show and/or change the man.
Bottomline is women are taking men for granted and men have had enough. Though some are still naive enough to believe in marriage. Even with the odds right in front of them.
When all you bring to the marriage is booobs and a warn out vagina, paired with a holier than thou attitude. How can you expect love to stay in the air?
TheStrongest
04-24-11, 20:03
Who said anything about "classy"?I did. But really American women can be a little up tight.
Wanderer1000
04-24-11, 20:56
Hey Wet Nose,
If you haven't heard of this guy, I think you might want to check him out. He's not on the radio anymore (will be back in a year) , but I find listening to him to be like therapy regarding the topic of women in America.
This is the absolute truth. I live in San Diego, and I happened to retire comfortably after cashing out in the tech bubble. I used to travel overseas many times a year, and go down to Tijuana every couple of weeks when I was home to get my action. Nowadays, there is an extreme abundance of supply of hookers at great prices right here in the USA. I haven't been to Tijuana in a year, because I can't justify the 40 minute each way drive, and then the border wait, when I can find all the pussy I want on the American side of the border. I've been paying generally $80-100 for half hour FS sessions from good looking ladies who also provide good service, and occasionally as low as $60. That's a Tijuana price, and it can be gotten here in San Diego. I've even been getting BBBJ from many of the ladies I see at those prices, and the ones that don't, are generally stunners in looks.Nowadays, whenever I call a new lady and she quotes me a price in the 3 digit range, I ask them if they can do $80 for a half hour, and more often than not, they say sure, no problem. These chicks need cash, and if you have it and are ready to spend it right now, the world is your oyster. I've got a handful of regulars who are reliable, and give me 30 minute sessions with DATY and BBBJ for $80, and I keep adding more ladies to the list. At those prices, I've been hitting it around twice a week over the past several months right here in San Diego. I wish I could say the same for the east coast but it is the complete opposite. We have backpage craigslist and a few other classifieds but these woman are asking for $250. 500. I guess they are getting it from somebody.
You would expect people to be even more desperate in an overpriced city like NY but but that just
isn't the case. I think alot of it has to do with access to certain types of people. Woman in NYC can meet guys with a lot of money and you don't need to live in an exclusive neighborhood to find them. NYC is crawling with them. I would imagine that would be much harder to do in Cali since people are confined to their cars and close circle of friends. Not to mention the border is only 30 minutes away. That in itself creates much needed competition.
How bad does it have to get to see lower prices in NYC? I think the burbs can be a lot cooler these days. It seems to me that cities are under lock and key with all the terrorism threats which hampers any kind of criminal activities. While in the suburbs massage places etc. Can fly under the radar if managed properly. Is this wrong?
DJ FourMoney
04-30-11, 03:38
Recently Kay Hymowitz's book came out. Where have all the good men gone?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/love/dating/where-have-all-the-good-men-gone/article1929246/
The comments on the article were revealing:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/love/dating/where-have-all-the-good-men-gone/article1929246/comments/
A sample:
-
Fembot: What happened to all the good guys?
Men: You did!
And here is why?
1. Feminism intentionally drove a wedge between the sexes, you lose if you're over 30.
2. You are a nag.
3. You talk too much about irrelevant stuff.
4. You are overly emotional.
5. You over value your looks.
6. Men don't like older women.
7. You are quickly passing child rearing years.
8. You don't put out.
9. You have put out too much in your 20s.
10. You act superior despite being a basket case, you're fake.
11. You have the courts at your back to rob a man of his assets (many men know this now)
12. You can rob a man of his children (many men know this now)
13. You can falsely accuse a man of sexual assault and not face jail (men go ghost)
14. You can lie about domestic violence and rob a man of his home (men go ghost)
15. You view men as wallets.
16. You treat men as success objects instead of human beings.
17. You date bad boys and thugs, then visit the psychologist and ask,"why"?
18. You can cheat in a marriage, and still cash out his assets and get the children.
19. Despite bragging about independence, you still require alimony if he makes more than you.
20. You can force him into fatherhood against his will; usually correlated with his income.
It's amazing the author is blaming men. Men have checked out because the price is too high and the value very LOW.
-
Here's the crux of the issue. Its not that men are man-childs. Men are in fact the more self reliant gender and better at, and more comfortable with, going it alone. Women tend to be more interested in unnecessary material possessions while men are more interested in the good life of enjoyable experiences.
Many male interests can be purchased if necessary (including sex) , and men have the biological advantage of being able to father children at almost any age. Accordingly men are more likely to be satisfied with the single life than women are. For us to give that up, the reward has to be worth the sacrifice. Traditional gender roles did this for the most part.
Over the past 50 years women have progressed to have more opportunities and can earn more money than ever before. All well and good. But what has gone hand in hand with this progress is the greater threat women pose to men.
Upon divorce, men can and are routinely (1) excluded from seeing their children, (2) made to pay spousal support, and (3) forced to give up half of the assets that they earned on their own. Meanwhile women are providing less incentives than before for marriage. It used to be that the one primary benefit of getting married was that you could have sex without any moral frowning by others. Now however, sex can be readily had outside of marriage, while its frequency during marriage has tended to drop.
So what is the value for men to get married? They get less and are victimized more. Moreover, as nice as it is that women are making more money, no self respecting man looks at a woman as a financial object other than to make sure she's not a financial basket case that is going to cost him what he has built. We have no princess fantasy that some woman is going to ride along and take our problems away. Men's requirements from marriage can be simply put as being with someone we enjoy for the long term.
So when we see that women are responsible for 80% of divorces and are rewarded for them at our expense, the problem is not man childs, but woman childs who are prone to take their ball home as soon as things don't go their way, and the ball was probably brought into the relationship by the man. The more relevat question is where have all the real women gone? Time to woman up ladies. We can make it fine on our own if need be. Can you?
-Excellent Post!
Men are waking up, though a bit slowly. I do see a storm brewing though. You just have to show men, like one showed a man how to make fire, it takes time for that information to get around to all men.
More and more men are finding happiness overseas. The last straw will be tightening of IMBRA if the Feminazi's try to turn the screws more. But there plenty of web sites that skirt IMBRA anyway, that will just continue and more personalized bride search companies are popping up run by married couples, giving you access to women outside of the agency loop.
That's not to say you can't find a honest women through some long time agencies but they have a fee based service, there's a fee for everything. When its been proven writing letters / email even Skype are not a replacement for real-time meetings.
All it takes is money and its a modest investment compared to marrying some AW you're barely attracted too.
Compare this case:
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_18026930
with this case:
http://www.9news.com/news/article/196680/339/Former-teacher-wrestling-coach-found-guilty
In the first case, the woman was caught red-handed and admitted to having sex with the student, who was 16. In the second case, it was only alleged that the man had sex with the student, who was 17. The woman got probation since she "had already suffered greatly":
http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=32635
Anybody want to bet how many years in prison the man gets? I am guessing about 6-8 years.
Sure am glad I don't have to go back to that place for eight more months.
DriveAllNight
05-10-11, 04:16
Welcome to the real world.
http://roissy.wordpress.com/
Read, and understand.
"Emotional outpouring bombs"? Please. What a stupid article. Talking about when to emit these EOBs only validates them. And saying to wait three months before dropping these EOBs? How about three years? How about never?
A better tactic would be: When she says,"I love you," say,"That's great! Me too!" She will think you are saying "I love you too," when you actually mean,"I love me too."
Selfishness and arrogance are their own rewards. Oh, and boy does Jackson's auto "correcting" software really suck. Automatically capitalizing everything after a bracket? Get a clue, Buckwheat.
"Men also reported being significantly happier than women to hear 'I love you' one month into the relationship if they had not yet had sex."
What kind of a fucking pussy would even still be around After a month if there was not yet any sex? The third date is when you say,"Do you believe in the hereafter?"
Because if you're not here after what I'm here after, you're going to be here after I'm long gone.
I could edit the capital letter out of that last post but I'd rather show how stupid it looks. It's not quite as stupid as how the software turns "y" ("and" in Spanish) into "why" but it's close.
Unbelievable s*t. And of all places too. Read on:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IMF_HEAD_ASSAULT?SITE=TXDAM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
SirStephen
05-17-11, 11:36
Goga.
So I did not have sex with this Polish woman after 4 dates and I ended up feeling a bit used for entertainment. At the end of our 4th date when she said we weren't sleeping together I left her outside while I went into a bar to watch a band. She ended up taking a cab home, which would be the only money she spent with me.
I am too 'nice' and I can't get into women's pants. 3 women in the last 2 weeks (including this Polish woman) have kissed me in clubs and told me how nice and sweet I am but they didn't suck my see*k and here I am again, frustrated.
If anyone has ANY advice on how I can break out of the 'nice' guy mold, please help!
We all know women want 'bad boys', how the F*K do you become one?
Goga- what do you mean by thinking too much? Please explain in detail. Maybe you see something I don't.
Nothing personal, but I hate these stories of how better it is in EE. Its just not in my reality. I've looked a little bit into teaching abroad but for now I don't have the qualifications. Plus I don't want to go abroad just for pu$$why, I have an entire LIFE I'm trying to build here. Maybe for the summer, we'll see. As a much older guy I can see that you are making a fundamental mistake. Firstly, women need sex just like guys do but they don't want to be seen as sluts or ho's. Secondly, women basically classify men into two categories (1) nice guys with good jobs who are suitable for taking home to meet the folks (girls don't put out for these guys on the first or second date but will marry them after a year or so) , and (2) bad ass or Alpha type males that they just want for sex. If you are in category (1) then you have a problem. You need to move to category (2) lickety split. Everything you are doing in regards to the way you are treating women is wrong. You are putting them on a pedestal and they don't respect you for it. I recommend that you try the following:
1) change your image. Copy some bad ass dude that you admire but don't overdo it. Remember girls want sex too but you got to take the lead.
2) stop being so polite to women. Turn up late for your dates. Never be on time. This makes them think that they are not so important after all.
3) check your personal hygene. This is a huge turn off for women no matter who you are.
4) you got to get the message through their heads right from the start that you want pussy. This is best done by subtle inference rather than some mornic outburst.
5) when you are on a date make casual comments about other women that you see such as. "wow that girl has a perfect ass". This really freaks women out. They get competitive and will want you to comment on their ass and confirm that it is ok. This could be a lead in to talking about her body and discussing sex. But don't try this if your date has a realy fat ass because she will just be upset.
6) Keep reminding her that you want pussy. Drop subtle hints. For example. Drop a hint that you like sexy lingerie and get her talking about her underwear.
7) apart from getting her to talk about sex in a subtle way so that she hardly realises that she is being led into something, remember that women are attracted to successful outgoing men, not sexual perverts.
Good luck and please post reports here!
To summarize the previous post, the way to get pussy is to act like you don't need it. And the way to act like you don't need it is to have just had it, by mongering. Just like money follows money around, pussy follows pussy around.
In some parts of Russia there is a tradition in which the husband to be takes his bride to the sauna before the wedding. Some think this done for some filthy purpose, but elders explain this in a different way:
"'When you go with your "chosen one" to the banya (Russian word for sauna) , you see the "real" person, without all the make-up and cosmetics that can decieve you and affect your choice."
Here are photos of Russian brides before the visit to the stylist and after to prove that this tradition might be wise to follow.
http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2009/07/16/russian-brides-before-and-after/
Damn! If Tiger Woods lowered the bar, Arnold Swartznegger broke it!
-Helpmann :(
damn! if tiger woods lowered the bar, arnold swartznegger broke it!
-helpmann. thank you for saying that. i couldn't believe it when i saw the images of her on the news. we all know he could have done a lot better yet he chose her. his choice probably had to do with emotional issues. maids hear and see everything. considering the fact that she had been around for awhile she probably knew all his (issues) and was able to identify with him in his comfort zone. an outsider wouldn't have that advantage.
remember he married up in the world. he was a male prostitute in paris while he was in the bodybuilding world. he was lucky with the movie pumping iron. otherwise those guys get lost into
the world of enhancement drugs pain management and drug abuse. shriver looks like all the males in her family. same face! she isn't the least bit attractive. didn't she know that she was getting used?
on another note i think the french imf guys case is fishy. i have a hunch he solicited the maid in a crude way and things went wrong. however the last place i would put my penis is in the mouth of someone i was [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125). if i had a gun different story. couldn't she have bitten down on the thing?
all is ugly in the world of love.
MadisonGuy
05-19-11, 19:23
She had to look better than that 12 years ago when they screwed. There's just no way. Latin women can have looks decline fast so I'm assuming that's what happened. Thank you Arnold for proving all men cheat, some just aren't bright enough to get away with it.
Thank you for saying that. I couldn't believe it when I saw the images of her on the news. We all know he could have done a lot better yet he chose her. His choice probably had to do with emotional issues. Maids hear and see everything. Considering the fact that she had been around for awhile she probably knew all his (issues) and was able to identify with him in his comfort zone. An outsider wouldn't have that advantage...If Arnold could impregnate his homely looking maid, he must have shagged every woman (of equal or better quality) who propositioned him.
-Helpmann :)
I, for one, think that calling her a ho is out of line. I understand what is meant but still. As to the IMF guy, I think that a luxury hotel should be full-service, if you paying $3,000 a night. I think that this is the common element in the Arnold and IMF case: When you are well-known, you tend to go for low-hanging fruit. Sometimes you are welcomed, sometimes -- particularly if you are gross, old and fat -- you are repelled. A regular Joe, paying $3,000 a night, probably could have just gone to a doorman. Pssst. send some pussy upstairs. Works in most other cities, why wouldn't in work in NYC?
I, for one, think that calling her a ho is out of line. I understand what is meant but still...Sorry to burst your bubble, but grandmas can be hoes too. If you spent some time with your elders, you would know who was a freak then and who is a freak now.
I know one thing. Mildred Baena was the highest paid maid on the block.
-Helpmann :D
I guess the whole Sperminator affair may be explained by the age-old dillemma: Who did the swallowing? Maybe his wife didn't.
Bango Cheito
05-20-11, 23:51
I agree the IMF thing is fishy. NYC is a shit mongering destination, probably worse than it's ever been, but if you can afford a $3k a night suite, you can afford to have pussy delivered. Something is really rotten in the state of Denmark.
Chocha Monger
05-21-11, 00:58
I agree the IMF thing is fishy. NYC is a shit mongering destination, probably worse than it's ever been, but if you can afford a $3k a night suite, you can afford to have pussy delivered. Something is really rotten in the state of Denmark.I don't know. A lot of mongers go to foreign countries and as soon as a girl follows them back to their hotel room they drop their pants and whip their cocks out. They assume that because it's the Third World and the girls are poor that they came to the hotel ready to fuck. The IMF dude might have made some assumptions about the maid being ready to fuck due to her socio-economic status. Perhaps, as is the case with some mongers, his assumptions were invalid.
Damn! If Tiger Woods lowered the bar, Arnold Swartznegger broke it!
-Helpmann. Damn she's just as ugly as he is!
Chocha Monger
05-24-11, 00:34
Damn she's just as ugly as he is!Yeah, but she must have some real good pussy or suck like a Dyson DC25 because he obviously thought she was cream pie worthy. :D
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_18125525
And the hoes are all ugly.
Chocha Monger
05-24-11, 16:27
AW doesn't understand why recently divorced boyfriend doesn't want to put his balls in her purse.
http://www.denverpost.com/style/ci_18099655?source=pop_section_style
Oh Ya Papi
05-25-11, 02:00
1. It's important to have a woman, who helps at home, who cooks from time to time, cleans up and has a job.
2. It's important to have a woman, who is beautiful.
3. It's important to have a woman, who you can trust and who doesn't lie to you.
4. It's important to have a woman, who is good in bed and who likes to be with you.
5. It's very, very important that these four women do not know each other.
AW doesn't understand why recently divorced boyfriend doesn't want to put his balls in her purse.
http://www.denverpost.com/style/ci_18099655?source=pop_section_styleThey have being going out for a year and he "just got" divorced. Hmmm. She says,
"If you love someone, and she (read: I) isn't cloying and controlling (which he agrees I'm not) , isn't it kind of NICE to be accountable to that person?"
Actually, no, it isn't, and wouldn't requiring "accountability" constitute control? Envision the conversation:
"Honey bunny, am I cloying and controlling?"
Umm, yes, and also those pants DO make your ass look big.
CherchezFemme
05-25-11, 04:21
I'm not surprised by this. Arnold is a known womanizer and flirt, ever since his BBing days.
And are people on this forum REALLY surprised he fucked his maid? You know, that he did what powerful men have done since the beginning of time? Fuck the help?
Arnie is one of the most driven people on this planet. He has found success in anything he has wanted to do. Legendary bodybuilder, self-made millionaire (before he became famous and before he met Maria) , the highest paid actor on the planet and Governor of California.
He is the definition of high-testosterone, alpha behavior. He is known for his enthusiasm and lust for life. These kinds of guys FUCK and fuck a LOT.
Plus, we don't know what she looked like years ago.
Shriver will get 1/2 the money. And Arnie will be be having 3somes with California 10s before the divorce is settled.
DJ FourMoney
05-25-11, 05:00
They have being going out for a year and he "just got" divorced. Hmmm. She says,
"If you love someone, and she (read: I) isn't cloying and controlling (which he agrees I'm not) , isn't it kind of NICE to be accountable to that person?"
Actually, no, it isn't, and wouldn't requiring "accountability" constitute control? Envision the conversation:
"Honey bunny, am I cloying and controlling?"
Umm, yes, and also those pants DO make your ass look big. As the response said, if she has to ask him if she's being cloy and controlling, guess what? You're being controlling by having a rigid view of relationships.
I have said this elsewhere on the web, WOMEN have to be retaught how to behave with men in relationships. They have forgotten how and the last people to ask are divorced women, including likely your own mother. This is another effect of 50+% divorce rate.
If dude was crazy about home girl he would say so, most men are not shy with their emotions if they feel strongly about something or some one.
I think you said it before DH, Men get into relationships hoping the woman doesn't change. Women get into relationships hoping to mold / change a man into the person she wants to be with. Functionally doesn't work. Both parties have to be happy "with what they got" for it to work.
Well, I was pretty happy with the two sisters I fucked the other night, but then of course they weren't American. They've known me for seven or eight years and the only thing they have tried to change is the amount of money I give them. Unsuccessfully, I might add.
Thinking of having kids with an AW? Might want to read this first:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_18133158
Kind of a tough way to avoid child support.
Member #2041
05-25-11, 16:29
Yeah, but she must have some real good pussy or suck like a Dyson DC25 because he obviously thought she was cream pie worthy. :DThe only women I know who are cream pie worthy are the ones that don't know my real name nor address, and the only phone number they have of mine is an anonymous pay as I go phone.
So simple and straight forward! American women just cannot seem to understand this simple concept. This simple concept works for both women and men.
Malaysia 'obedient wives' club: Good sex is a duty.
As a new bride. 22-year-old Ummu Atirah believes she knows the secret to a blissful marriage: obey her husband and ensure he is sexually satisfied.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110605/ap_on_re_as/as_malaysia_obedient_wives; _ylt=AjxIddtqZ9kj4iK. L. BP76. S0NUE; _ylu=X3oDMTFpdmZpb2VkBHBvcwMzNwRzZWMDYWNjb3JkaW9uX21vc3RfcG9wdWxhcgRzbGsDbWFsYXlzaWFvYmVk
So simple and straight forward! American women just cannot seem to understand this simple concept. This simple concept works for both women and men.What people write here about AW reminds "Kosher sex" laws in Judaism :
"Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. A man may never force his wife to have sex.
Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her."
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
Is it just a coincidence?
Bango Cheito
06-06-11, 09:24
What people write here about AW reminds "Kosher sex" laws in Judaism :
"Sex for selfish personal satisfaction, without regard for the partner's pleasure, is wrong and evil. A man may never force his wife to have sex.
Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her."
http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm
Is it just a coincidence? Sounds like good advice to me! Only an idiot would have sex with a woman without thinking of her pleasure!
Bareback Jack
06-06-11, 17:40
Sounds like good advice to me! Only an idiot would have sex with a woman without thinking of her pleasure!Depends on the occasion I'd say. If the sex partner is a pro, your aim is to get pleasure not to give pleasure. The fact that WGs pretend to have pleasure is just to care for our male ego which bruises easily and so that we are more willing to part with the money.
In summary if it's a service you get the pleasure and she gets the money. If it's another arrangement where both are looking for sexual satisfaction then it seems to be stating the obvious that both sides need to put in some effort if it's meant to be more than a one off
Bango Cheito
06-07-11, 06:47
Depends on the occasion I'd say. If the sex partner is a pro, your aim is to get pleasure not to give pleasure. The fact that WGs pretend to have pleasure is just to care for our male ego which bruises easily and so that we are more willing to part with the money.
In summary if it's a service you get the pleasure and she gets the money. If it's another arrangement where both are looking for sexual satisfaction then it seems to be stating the obvious that both sides need to put in some effort if it's meant to be more than a one offEven with pros, the best route is to look for her pleasure. At least in my books! .
Even with pros, the best route is to look for her pleasure. At least in my books! .Yes I agree!
and others.
to me, the question is this. is / was his wife meeting his sexual needs?
if she is not, then that is formally defined as domestic violence.
and if his wife is not meeting his sexual needs, does that give hime some degree of licence to get his needs met elsewhere?
i was talking recently with a sex therapist and relationship counsellor. she had just launched a new book.
we were discussing the expectation of fidelity in marriage, while ignoring the fact that it is the responsibility of each partner to meet the needs of their spouse to the best of their ability.
otherwise, the wife has total control of her husband's sex life.
once upon a time, this was recognised at law,. "conjugal rights"
but that was one of the first targets of the feminist movement. get rid of that law that might put any responsibility on the wife.
the result is now a country full of emasculated men.
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Chocha Monger
06-10-11, 22:13
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/09/facebook-angela-voelkert-murder_n_873907.html?icid=main%7Chp-laptop%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C215645
and others. to me, the question is this. is / was his wife meeting his sexual needs? if she is not, then that is formally defined as domestic violence. and if his wife is not meeting his sexual needs, does that give hime some degree of licence to get his needs met elsewhere?
i was talking recently with a sex therapist and relationship counsellor. she had just launched a new book. we were discussing the expectation of fidelity in marriage, while ignoring the fact that it is the responsibility of each partner to meet the needs of their spouse to the best of their ability. otherwise, the wife has total control of her husband's sex life.
once upon a time, this was recognised at law."conjugal rights" but that was one of the first targets of the feminist movement. get rid of that law that might put any responsibility on the wife. the result is now a country full of emasculated men. gif your wife or so refuses you sex one time, beat off. if she refuses a second consecutive time, lie next to her, beat off, and wipe it all over her. that's if you live in the us.
if you live here, tell her you are going for a walk. go to a cheap *****house, fuck a skank, make sure you get her cheap perfume all over you, and don't wash your dick afterwards.
neither of these methods is actually conducive to lasting bliss, but both are very useful in separating the wheat from the chaff.
CherchezFemme
06-11-11, 16:05
LittleTruths, Chocha, Bango and whoever else gave advice : just wanted you guys to know that I did follow your advice re: milfs and dating. I am now banging a MILF on a regular basis after going for it HARD on the first date and banging her on the 2nd. I spent no money on the first dates, just cooked her a salad with lemon chicken and a couple bottles of inexpensive wine. She pays sometimes, sometimes I do, but we never go anywhere expensive. Yesterday was a diner, the time before that Wendy's LOL.
She ain't all that, in fact she's pretty much the lowest tier of what I am willing to bang. But she let's me bang her bareback in all 3 holes and loves to f*see* so for now I keep seeing her.
I keep using plenty of fish but so far the only women I've gone on dates with have been ones who contacted me first. I can get women to respond to my emails but so far no luck in dating them.
But, at least I have a FB now to have fun with.
LittleTruths
06-11-11, 20:14
LittleTruths, Chocha, Bango and whoever else gave advice : just wanted you guys to know that I did follow your advice re: milfs and dating. I am now banging a MILF on a regular basis after going for it HARD on the first date and banging her on the 2nd. I spent no money on the first dates, just cooked her a salad with lemon chicken and a couple bottles of inexpensive wine. She pays sometimes, sometimes I do, but we never go anywhere expensive. Yesterday was a diner, the time before that Wendy's LOL.
She ain't all that, in fact she's pretty much the lowest tier of what I am willing to bang. But she let's me bang her bareback in all 3 holes and loves to f*see* so for now I keep seeing her.
I keep using plenty of fish but so far the only women I've gone on dates with have been ones who contacted me first. I can get women to respond to my emails but so far no luck in dating them.
But, at least I have a FB now to have fun with. . Ha-haaa. Well done bro! I'm happy if any of the advice I and the guys gave you has been of any help.
Keep up the good work!
Bless
Chocha Monger
06-12-11, 00:04
If your wife or SO refuses you sex one time, beat off. If she refuses a second consecutive time, lie next to her, beat off, and wipe it all over her. That's if you live in the US.
If you live here, tell her you are going for a walk. Go to a cheap *house, fuck a skank, make sure you get her cheap perfume all over you, and don't wash your dick afterwards.
Neither of these methods is actually conducive to lasting bliss, but both are very useful in separating the wheat from the chaff. Ernest Hemingway wrote in the short story The Three-Day Blow:
'Once a man's married he's absolutely bitched, ' Bill went on. 'He hasn't got anything more. Nothing. Not a damn thing. He's done for. You've seen the guys that get married. '
Nick said nothing.
'You can tell them, ' Bill said. 'They get this sort of fat married look. They're done for. '
Papa Hemingway then went on to marry 4 times before finally blowing his brains out.
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