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I guess marrying for money might make some sense to some people. Me, I would not want to be with a woman who had more money than I do. And, I sure don't want to marry someone who is marrying me because I have (or she thinks I have) more money than she does.
My guess is, a lot of the people on this board have been married multiple times.
Chocha Monger
06-12-11, 00:54
I guess marrying for money might make some sense to some people. Me, I would not want to be with a woman who had more money than I do. And, I sure don't want to marry someone who is marrying me because I have (or she thinks I have) more money than she does.
My guess is, a lot of the people on this board have been married multiple times. Many mongers have married 2 or 3 times before finally deciding to give it up and some will never quit.
Chocha Monger
06-12-11, 13:19
LittleTruths, Chocha, Bango and whoever else gave advice : just wanted you guys to know that I did follow your advice re: milfs and dating. I am now banging a MILF on a regular basis after going for it HARD on the first date and banging her on the 2nd. I spent no money on the first dates, just cooked her a salad with lemon chicken and a couple bottles of inexpensive wine. She pays sometimes, sometimes I do, but we never go anywhere expensive. Yesterday was a diner, the time before that Wendy's LOL.
She ain't all that, in fact she's pretty much the lowest tier of what I am willing to bang. But she let's me bang her bareback in all 3 holes and loves to f*see* so for now I keep seeing her.
I keep using plenty of fish but so far the only women I've gone on dates with have been ones who contacted me first. I can get women to respond to my emails but so far no luck in dating them.
But, at least I have a FB now to have fun with. Good to see that you finally got some relief without getting used and fleeced in the process. Keep standing up for yourself.
"Men also reported being significantly happier than women to hear 'I love you' one month into the relationship if they had not yet had sex."
What kind of a fucking pussy would even still be around After a month if there was not yet any sex? The third date is when you say,"Do you believe in the hereafter?"
Because if you're not here after what I'm here after, you're going to be here after I'm long gone. Thanks, dickhead!
Bango Cheito
06-12-11, 18:27
Ernest Hemingway wrote in the short story The Three-Day Blow:
'Once a man's married he's absolutely bitched, ' Bill went on. 'He hasn't got anything more. Nothing. Not a damn thing. He's done for. You've seen the guys that get married. '
Nick said nothing.
'You can tell them, ' Bill said. 'They get this sort of fat married look. They're done for. '
Papa Hemingway then went on to marry 4 times before finally blowing his brains out. He's right. I had that look from 2000-2004 :P Now in 2011 I look almost better than I ever have in my life!
I've thought about that quote a lot. I guess my question is: If it comes down to getting married again or blowing my head off with a shotgun, what size shells should I use?
Gfe Finder
06-12-11, 23:30
I've thought about that quote a lot. I guess my question is: If it comes down to getting married again or blowing my head off with a shotgun, what size shells should I use?
I believe Hemmingway used a 12-gauge. That'll definitely get the job done! ;)
Chocha Monger
06-14-11, 01:30
Cherchezfemme,
There is a movie filmed in Jamaica called "The Lunatic." It shows what happens when Inga, a white female sex tourist, appears on the scene and imposes "pum pum rule" on two native men to get them to do her bidding. Aloysious, the main protagonist, declares that the pum pum rule is more tyrannical than colonialism!
It gives a nice perspective on how pussy dominates men in Europe and North America. When Aloysious asks Inga why one person must make all the decisions and she replies it is because only one person has the pussy then puts him to work building a house to shelter her. The entire movie can be viewed at the following link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7169180673594460608
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FWIW a wise old man says................
There is no such thing as free Pussy!
You pay upfront.................... Hooker!
You pay as you go................ Date!
You pay at the end................Divorce!
The closest thing to free pussy is if you marry her and then you drink and fuck yourself to death as fast as possible. But, there is a problem with that. When I left the US 8 years ago I was pretty sure I could drink and fuck myself to death in 5 years. It's harder than it looks. But I have made some progress. When I left the US, I was an alcoholic and now I am just a drunk. I think you'd need to add cocaine, and then you maybe could do it in five years. But I never liked that shit. I really don't think you can fuck yourself to death. I tried as hard as I could.
I guess you could get "free" pussy from rich women but I don't think that would work for me. The initiation fees would be too high, and then you'd run into the golden handcuffs syndrome.
So all of that is another argument against marriage, I think.
Bango Cheito
06-16-11, 07:45
The closest thing to free pussy is if you marry her and then you drink and fuck yourself to death as fast as possible. But, there is a problem with that. When I left the US 8 years ago I was pretty sure I could drink and fuck myself to death in 5 years. It's harder than it looks. But I have made some progress. When I left the US, I was an alcoholic and now I am just a drunk. I think you'd need to add cocaine, and then you maybe could do it in five years. But I never liked that shit. I really don't think you can fuck yourself to death. I tried as hard as I could.
I guess you could get "free" pussy from rich women but I don't think that would work for me. The initiation fees would be too high, and then you'd run into the golden handcuffs syndrome.
So all of that is another argument against marriage, I think. If you're attractive enough to women, pussy is free.
If you're attractive enough to women, pussy is free.Actually an ugly, hideously looking guy can pull in free pussy if has money to throw around.
Mr Enternational
06-16-11, 15:35
Actually an ugly, hideously looking guy can pull in free pussy if has money to throw around.In that case it wasn't actually free. There were costs associated, which no doubt would have been more than an actual rental agreement.
Bareback Jack
06-16-11, 17:47
If you're attractive enough to women, pussy is free.I agree. There is plenty of free pussy. But it only remains free if you keep it casual and short term
In that case it wasn't actually free. There were costs associated, which no doubt would have been more than an actual rental agreement.Again, no such thing as free Pussy!
You pay upfront. Hooker!
You pay as you go. Date!
You pay at the end. Divorce!
Bareback Jack
06-16-11, 23:42
Again, no such thing as free Pussy!
You pay upfront. Hooker!
You pay as you go. Date!
You pay at the end. Divorce! There is one more category.
You pay nothing. Fuck Buddy!
I have done that several times. Doesn't work like a date. Just simply someone you like to shag and vice versa. No strings attached. I admit it doesn't happen very often. Last one for me was one of the single mums in my son's school. She was a hottie from Guayana. She had 2 small kids (1 and 5) and wanted someone in the convenience of her own home when the kids are sleeping. No taking out for dinner, no presents, no payment. Just go, fuck and then get the hell out of there. She was a MILF and pretty open minded. Plus I got home cooked dinner. I stopped when she thought we should have a proper relationship. Hence the remark. Keep it casual and short.
I wonder how much time this guy Jack has spent in the United States.
Chocha Monger
06-17-11, 03:30
There is no such thing as 'free sex. ' Sex involves expenditures of energy and vital fluids. It involves assumed risk of disease, injury and paternal liability. There is also the opportunity cost of having sex assuming that you have capacity to earn income or create value with the time used to engage in sex.
That being said, some guys screw girls raw dog in poor foreign lands and then disappear leaving them to fend for themselves. I guess you can say the sex was pretty close to being scot free for the guy.
Bareback Jack
06-17-11, 07:21
I wonder how much time this guy Jack has spent in the United States.Not much. I try to avoid it actually. Reason being: AW
Bareback Jack
06-17-11, 07:28
...There is also the opportunity cost of having sex assuming that you have capacity to earn income or create value with the time used to engage in sex...Umh. Engaging in sex creates incredible value for me. Just not monetary value. Its simply priceless. Engaging in work on the other hand while you could have sex instead is seriously depressing.
Bango Cheito
06-18-11, 07:27
I have quite a few fuckbuddy relationships running. The problem is that of low priority. In many cases we go a longgggggg time without even seeing ecah other apart from online, because of schedule conflicts and it just not being priority in our lives. That especially happens when fuckbuddy gets a serious bf or gets back together with one. Otherwise, those relationships are awesome.
I think the ultimate pinnacle of human relationships would be a polyamorous relatiionship between a big group of people where everybody loves and fucks everybody else. Aside from that, I think open relationships are great.
I doubt I'd ever enter into a monogamous relationship again at this point.
Mr Enternational
06-18-11, 11:28
I doubt I'd ever enter into a monogamous relationship again at this point.You either. Especially over here in Thailand. I have gotten so used to telling women that I don't want a girlfriend. If I have already been fucking them before the subject comes up they usually get sad for a minute but afterwards they are fine to keep it as a fucking friendship.
Bango Cheito
06-18-11, 16:38
You either. Especially over here in Thailand. I have gotten so used to telling women that I don't want a girlfriend. If I have already been fucking them before the subject comes up they usually get sad for a minute but afterwards they are fine to keep it as a fucking friendship.I'm going out with a girl right now who picks girls up for us to have threesomes. Now THAT is gf material! Everybody else is a distant second!
Chocha Monger
06-24-11, 22:04
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110624/ts_yblog_thelookout/police-say-academics-running-prostitution-ring-not-motivated-by-cash
http://www.dailycamera.com/boulder-county-news/ci_18369652
Chocha Monger
07-01-11, 17:36
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/30/age-gap-relationship-consequences-older-men-younger-women_n_887205.html?icid=main
I wonder how she feels about older women preying on younger men? She never mentioned Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore. I guess young men suffer no harm from being cougar meat? A woman 10 to 15 yrs older than an 18 yr old boy can ruin his life permanently by putting him on child support for 18 yrs or more.
LittleTruths
07-01-11, 19:18
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/30/age-gap-relationship-consequences-older-men-younger-women_n_887205.html?icid=main
I wonder how she feels about older women preying on younger men? She never mentioned Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore. I guess young men suffer no harm from being cougar meat? A woman 10 to 15 yrs older than an 18 yr old boy can ruin his life permanently by putting him on child support for 18 yrs or more.I've just read the article and I feel grateful that in this age this kind of stuff gets put up on the internet and no trees are destroyed in order to be transformed into paper to serve as support to print this rubbish on. Thanks for posting the link anyways.
Bless
What happened to the original board format? This new format is so fucked up that I have no desire to hang around here anymore!
I see two possible solutions. One would be to use Firefox instead of that shit Bill Gates puts out, in which case the layout will look much better. Another would be to make sure the door does not hit you in the ass.
i've been drinking a lot lately as usual and i have a lot more experience with mongering than i do with marriage, but the following would seem to be true. the longer you are married, the greater the absolute probability you will get divorced. and, as you get older you will build wealth, if you are successful at something. as a man, as you get older, at some point you can't have as much sex as you used to, all else held equal, unless you use performance-enhancing drugs. leaving drugs out of the equation, that would result in you having less sex with your wife every year, but with an increase in the probability she would take some of your wealth away. this would seem to increase economic risk geometrically.
now, another form of economic risk is leverage, or the presence of fixed costs in your cost structure. this is known as the "nut" that you have to pay no matter what happens. it has some similarities to a "jones" in that regard. assuming the woman is paying half the expenses, which is certainly a possibility with an aw, you could be getting some economies of scale on rent and so forth. let's take that out of the picture and look at it from the standpoint of any sane person who is considering getting married. for the moment we will ignore, as well, the possibility of a contradiction in terms in that last sentence. so this person has neither married an aw nor mongered excessively, at the time the decision needs to be made.
paragraph one illustrates the risk if you are successful. now let's look at the risk if you are unsuccessful and broke or scraping by. mongering is far more scalable. try moving to a smaller apartment or a cheaper country if you are married to an aw. this might be very difficult indeed. if you are a monger and you are broke, you don't have to monger. if you are married to an aw and you are broke, you still have to be married to an aw, with all the associated fixed costs.
looking at both the upside and the downside, the initial analysis would seem to favor mongering.
Chocha Monger
07-07-11, 13:29
i've been drinking a lot lately as usual and i have a lot more experience with mongering than i do with marriage, but the following would seem to be true. the longer you are married, the greater the absolute probability you will get divorced. and, as you get older you will build wealth, if you are successful at something. as a man, as you get older, at some point you can't have as much sex as you used to, all else held equal, unless you use performance-enhancing drugs. leaving drugs out of the equation, that would result in you having less sex with your wife every year, but with an increase in the probability she would take some of your wealth away. this would seem to increase economic risk geometrically.
now, another form of economic risk is leverage, or the presence of fixed costs in your cost structure. this is known as the "nut" that you have to pay no matter what happens. it has some similarities to a "jones" in that regard. assuming the woman is paying half the expenses, which is certainly a possibility with an aw, you could be getting some economies of scale on rent and so forth. let's take that out of the picture and look at it from the standpoint of any sane person who is considering getting married. for the moment we will ignore, as well, the possibility of a contradiction in terms in that last sentence. so this person has neither married an aw nor mongered excessively, at the time the decision needs to be made.
paragraph one illustrates the risk if you are successful. now let's look at the risk if you are unsuccessful and broke or scraping by. mongering is far more scalable. try moving to a smaller apartment or a cheaper country if you are married to an aw. this might be very difficult indeed. if you are a monger and you are broke, you don't have to monger. if you are married to an aw and you are broke, you still have to be married to an aw, with all the associated fixed costs.
looking at both the upside and the downside, the initial analysis would seem to favor mongering.i agree that the costs to exit marriage increases the longer a man remains in it. the common figure quoted is 50% of a man's wealth but when children are involved the loss of wealth is actually about 70 to 75 percent. there is also the question of opportunity costs. a married man may forego career opportunities in order to keep his wife happy and spend more time close to home. i think the real challenge for men living in the usa is being able to delay gratification until they can travel abroad to monger. many marry thinking that it is the best way to guarantee a readily available source of sex without factoring the long term costs.
Since I was married before I can say this from an experienced point of view, because I've learned things the hard way. For a man, there is a lot to gain from a marriage, only if he wants to have children. They are priceless and something to be protected, cherished and taken care of. It is the greatest benefit from the entire institution of marriage. Your kids. They will always be a part of you no matter what.
However, as far as the other issues, economic, emotional, and conjugal, the AW has all the chips in their corner. Why, the man has no rights basically except in the most extreme cases. An average guy needs to have an ironclad pre-nuptial agreement. Period. I learned that lesson the hard way. The AW is allowed to cheat, steal, lie and will be taken care of in the US judicial system. Judges there have lost their minds.
The USA is supposed to be a first world country. However, countless guys are paying child support for children they did not father, proven by DNA testing. The mother cheated on their fathers, had a child by another man, yet, judges in the USA are forcing men to support these kids, even though they are not the fruit of their loins? Go to any 'Third world country' and that bullshit will NEVER happen. Oh, yeah, and we are calling THEM third world. Go figure. Common sense can prevail elsewhere, except in the USA where we overthink the logical conclusions to an open and closed scenario. I think they are more enlightened than we are in that sense, because nonsense should not be rewarded.
Also, as mentioned before, conjugal rights have gone out the window along with common sense. We as men in the USA, the minute we say, like fools 'I DO' belong to the AW not as soulmates, or husband and wife; but as a cash register. Your net worth has just taken a hit if, like most dummies like me, who chose, out of their own free will, to take the plunge believing in the cunning, low-down, good for nothing AW who made a promise to you.
Even if you have it all in writing, with a great pre-nuptial agreement, there is no guarantee that the agreement will be enforced as written. Once again, our judicial system gives our judges great latitude in the enforcement of written agreements, including pre-nuptial agreements. Common sense has disappeared from our system of jurisprudence. This is the fallout from our lack of core values. Our laws evolve and can change with the times, but, once a gain, where is the common sense?
What's my point? Why would any sane human being marry ANYONE and live in the USA? If you are truly looking for the living happily thereafter, you have to live somewhere else where the laws have meaning. Pretty much all 1st world countries have lost their appeal; that is why in extreme cases governments are paying citizens to have children, like in Germany. The population of Japan is aging extremely fast, virtually no one is having children there. For a hard working man in any developed country, marriage has become a tremendous liability. This is because no system of laws in developed countries wants to give us males the right to be right about anything when it comes to marriages.
You've noticed that I've left out women rights groups' altogether? Their impact has virtually eliminated the rights for all of us and the law has evolved to the point that it makes no sense, especially in the USA. Sexless marriages, paying child support for what basically IS a bastard child, no visitation rights for many great providers and fathers out there, etc, etc.
So monger on! Women hate that we are getting what we want. Let them make that Hatorade in barrels! This is what they wanted for us to find better than them. I know I did and so did many of you out there. Have fun, and remember not to fall in love because you may find yourself in an unwinnable situation.
Sorry for the rant, but I just wanted to give my humble opinion.
I agree that the costs to exit marriage increases the longer a man remains in it. The common figure quoted is 50% of a man's wealth but when children are involved the loss of wealth is actually about 70 to 75 percent. There is also the question of opportunity costs. A married man may forego career opportunities in order to keep his wife happy and spend more time close to home. I think the real challenge for men living in the USA is being able to delay gratification until they can travel abroad to monger. Many marry thinking that it is the best way to guarantee a readily available source of sex without factoring the long term costs.
Chocha Monger
07-13-11, 11:37
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/12/catherine-kieu-becker-cut-off-husbands-penis_n_895771.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/12/catherine-kieu-becker-cut-off-husbands-penis_n_895771.htmlJesus Christ! And everyone here is ragging on American Women? Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT fuck with a pissed off Cambodian woman! And she turned the garbage disposal ON, with him watching! Nothing left to even re-attach. Poor bastard. I'm glad I'm not him.
Apparently, our dickless friend is doing quite well.
Garden Grove Police Lt. Jeff Nightengale said Kieu called police Monday night to report a medical emergency and told arriving officers "he deserved it" before pointing to the room where the victim was found bleeding profusely. She was taken into custody without incident and refused to talk to officers further.
The couple was married in December 2009. When the victim filed for divorce, he cited irreconcilable differences, court records show. Kieu was slowly moving her things out of the condo, authorities said.
The victim declined to comment when he was reached by phone Tuesday by the Register.
"This is a private matter," he said.
A call by The Associated Press to a phone number listed on court documents for the victim was answered Wednesday by a person who promptly hung up.
Officers visited the victim on Tuesday and found him in "amazingly good spirits considering everything he has gone through," Nightengale said.
Our hero is in "amazingly good spirits" after he's had his dick cut off and turned into hamburger by a garbage disposal. I wonder what he considers a bad day?
Actually I believe it's not the size of the shells that matter, it's the direction of the shot. You don't want to aim the gun upwards, you want to aim it backwards so the blast will sever your spinal column.
Member #2041
07-18-11, 00:10
Apparently, our dickless friend is doing quite well.
Garden Grove Police Lt. Jeff Nightengale said Kieu called police Monday night to report a medical emergency and told arriving officers "he deserved it" before pointing to the room where the victim was found bleeding profusely. She was taken into custody without incident and refused to talk to officers further.
The couple was married in December 2009. When the victim filed for divorce, he cited irreconcilable differences, court records show. Kieu was slowly moving her things out of the condo, authorities said.
The victim declined to comment when he was reached by phone Tuesday by the Register.
"This is a private matter," he said.
A call by The Associated Press to a phone number listed on court documents for the victim was answered Wednesday by a person who promptly hung up.
Officers visited the victim on Tuesday and found him in "amazingly good spirits considering everything he has gone through," Nightengale said.
Our hero is in "amazingly good spirits" after he's had his dick cut off and turned into hamburger by a garbage disposal. I wonder what he considers a bad day?Keep in mind that since his dick led him to this beyotch in the first place, he may be glad to now be without it.
Member #2041
07-18-11, 00:12
Jesus Christ! And everyone here is ragging on American Women? Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT fuck with a pissed off Cambodian woman! And she turned the garbage disposal ON, with him watching! Nothing left to even re-attach. Poor bastard. I'm glad I'm not him.She had also drugged him into a state of unconsciousness, but waited for him to wake up before removing the family member and putting it into the aforementioned disposal unit.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/20/new.york.prostitution.bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
$7 million prostitution ring busted in New York City, police say.
By Chris Boyette, CNN.
July 20, 2011 6:42 pm EDT.
New York (CNN). Seventeen people and five "corporations" connected to a New York City escort service were indicted in Brooklyn Wednesday, charged with running a high-price prostitution and drug ring.
The alleged racket earned more than $7 million in three years, catering to high-rolling customers who could drop more than $10, 000 a night, according to the Kings County District Attorney's Office.
The 144-count indictment includes allegations of enterprise corruption, promoting prostitution, money laundering, and criminal sale of a controlled substance against High Class NY, an escort service based in the Sheepshead Bay neighborhood of Brooklyn.
Among the individuals named in the documents are High Class NY's owners: Mikhail Yampolsky; his wife, Bronislava; a son, Alexander; and a stepson, Jonathan Yampolskaya. Eleven High Class NY managers and two of the escort service's largest financial investors, Efim Gorelik and Yakov Maystrovich, also are indicted. They could face up to 25 years in prison if convicted.
"We are not going to run from this. We intend to fight these charges," said Joseph Mure, attorney for Yampolskaya and the younger Yampolsky.
Two escorts are separately indicted on prostitution and drug-related charges.
Fees for High Class NY's escort services allegedly ranged from $400 per hour to more than $3, 600 per hour, and clients often spent more than $10, 000 in one night, according to the indictment. Authorities claim the money paid for sexual contact with the escorts as well as cocaine and other controlled substances.
The indictment charges that High Class NY concealed client's credit card charges in monthly billing statements. The names of five shell corporations were used on the billing statements in place of High Class NY, the prosecutor's office said.
Escorts, called "models," were required to sign employment contracts prohibiting sexual contact with clients in an effort to mask the illegal nature of the business, the indictment says.
"There is no such thing as a high-class pimp, and as we do with all other pimps, my office will prosecute these defendants and seek the maximum sentences available under the law," said District Attorney Charles J. Hynes.
The indictment charges the High Class NY operates several escort websites, including highclassny. Com, discreteclub. Com, nyadultdating. Com, cupiddirect. Com, and angelofyourchoice. Com, in addition to advertising its services on backpage. Com and craigslist. Com.
"If any models were engaged in sexual activities, it was beyond the scope of their employment," said Albert Y. Dayan, the Yampolskys' attorney. He also asserted that prosecutors have failed to make the case of enterprise corruption against his clients because they cannot establish the alleged prostitution ring as a criminal enterprise.
According to the company's records, the escort service earned more than $7 million between September 2007 and November 2010, according to the indictment. Yampolsky faces charges of laundering these profits to hide the illegal income.
Yampolskaya and the Yampolskys pleaded not guilty at an arraignment Wednesday afternoon.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/20/new.york.prostitution.bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
The 144-count indictment includes allegations of enterprise corruption, promoting prostitution, money laundering, and criminal sale of a controlled substance against High Class NY, an escort service based in the Sheepshead Bay neighborhood of Brooklyn.
Among the individuals named in the documents are High Class NY's owners: Mikhail Yampolsky; his wife, Bronislava; a son, Alexander; and a stepson, Jonathan Yampolskaya. Eleven High Class NY managers and two of the escort service's largest financial investors, Efim Gorelik and Yakov Maystrovich, also are indicted. They could face up to 25 years in prison if convicted.Another jews-from-russia success story gone bad. See if they get convicted, serve time. And how much the fine is.
MadisonGuy
07-22-11, 00:11
Because of the huge increase in mongering rates due to the weak US dollar I have decided to make mongering my #1 platform for the US presidential race. What I'm going to do is seperate a section of the country and take away all worker rights, get minimum wage down to around. 25 / hour which will hopefully get the working girl prices down to around $25. I will build a fence so that those less fortunate can not come into the A zone. In America we have the most diverse women look wise in the world and it is essentially the best place to monger, unfortunately we have to create a system that will spur that kind of movement. As President I am ready to make those tough decisions. Instead of trying to increase the economy everywhere I will narrow in on the best areas and cut out the portion of the country that would make best for mongering. Do I have your vote?
Well we now see how our tax payer funded bailout of Wall Street has been put to good use!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/20/new.york.prostitution.bust/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
$7 million prostitution ring busted in New York City, police say.
The alleged racket earned more than $7 million in three years, catering to high-rolling customers who could drop more than $10, 000 a night, according to the Kings County District Attorney's Office.
Fees for High Class NY's escort services allegedly ranged from $400 per hour to more than $3, 600 per hour, and clients often spent more than $10, 000 in one night, according to the indictment. Authorities claim the money paid for sexual contact with the escorts as well as cocaine and other controlled substances.
Fuck no, you don't have my vote. Just like any politician you are looking at band-aid solutions. The problem is the weak dollar and low wage mentality does nothing to solve that. This statement,"In America we have the most diverse women look wise in the world and it is essentially the best place to monger," is flat out ludicrous. If your idea of diverse is fat, fatter, and grossly obese, then that would be a good description of the available variety. Of course, coming from one of the most obese states in the US you may not notice that, or may not care, or may be a "chubby chaser" at heart. Now I will go check your posting history and see if you have ever actually been anywhere.
But since Jackson's software sucks, I could only access your last 25 posts, which were all from the Philippines. That is probably where your 25c per hour concept comes from. Pussy is essentially a commodity product and attempts to differentiate the product, while amusing, are largely misguided. So we have capital fleeing the US in search of pussy, which exacerbates the trade deficit and further weakens the dollar. If they legalized prostitution in the US it would still suck, and would not change anything, because it would be provided by fat, obnoxious, asexual AWs who have been brainwashed from birth. Hence the focus needs to be on either improving the US economy and strengthening the US dollar for those who monger on vacation, or strengthening the dollar without regard to the economy for those of us who have already come to our senses and left, but still get paid in dollars.
My platform for 2012 is to shoot all the fundies. They will go to heaven, or so they believe, and so should not mind dying. Then I have a reasonable shot at getting elected. I still won't want to return to the US, so after I win the election overwhelmingly I will merely appoint a regent to rule on my behalf. I will immediately cease to fund the military. I won't even spend money to bring them back. They freely enlisted and hence agreed to go to Whatthefuckistan, so I will give them two weeks' severance and they can do whatever. I will immediately cease to fund the CIA and those fuckers won't even get two weeks severance. I will deny they ever existed. Then I will cease to fund the Border Patrol and very soon the US will have plenty of cheap Latina and Asian hookers and the problem will be solved. The elimination of these useless and counterproductive tools of imperailism will balance the budget and we can collect payroll taxes from the illegal aliens and then deport them right before they reach retirement age. That will fix the problems with Social Security and Medicare. I will also deport ignorant rednecks who were born in the United States. This will be like a reverse Mariel boatlift. Somalia, Haiti, and Venezuela will be the main destinations. The prison population could be included in the deportation, or could be gassed and used as feed for cattle and hogs. Either way would be fine by me.
MadisonGuy
07-22-11, 06:02
Wow you are the stereotypical can't get laid in the US monger. You definetely have some issues and I don't need to see back 1 post to figure that out, nor have I ever looked in the past at someones posts. That is kind of stalkerish and could potentially be part of your problem with women. I suggest first you seek professional help, then you open your eyes and realize how many hot women of different nationalities mixed together are here in the US. I agree in general their attitudes are a bit much, but saying they are all fat is like calling all women period fat because there are so many asian and latin women in the country, along with indian, european, the list goes on and on. No other country is like that. That is why the US has the hottest women, with out variety you're at a seafood buffet with one type of clam. There's 2 types of mongers and unfortunately we are the opposites, I'm the monger who has an addiction and just can't get enough, you're the monger who can't get it and needs to pay. I can't say which is worse.
Bango Cheito
07-22-11, 07:37
Wow you are the stereotypical can't get laid in the US monger. You definetely have some issues and I don't need to see back 1 post to figure that out, nor have I ever looked in the past at someones posts. That is kind of stalkerish and could potentially be part of your problem with women. I suggest first you seek professional help, then you open your eyes and realize how many hot women of different nationalities mixed together are here in the US. I agree in general their attitudes are a bit much, but saying they are all fat is like calling all women period fat because there are so many asian and latin women in the country, along with indian, european, the list goes on and on. No other country is like that. That is why the US has the hottest women, with out variety you're at a seafood buffet with one type of clam. There's 2 types of mongers and unfortunately we are the opposites, I'm the monger who has an addiction and just can't get enough, you're the monger who can't get it and needs to pay. I can't say which is worse.I also have to wonder how much you've travelled. The food supply in the US is horrible, thus, people don't look good. If I were a hetero woman, I'd be bitching about fat gross nasty USA men! It's the ugliest country in the world, PERIOD!
MadisonGuy
07-22-11, 14:50
I also have to wonder how much you've travelled. The food supply in the US is horrible, thus, people don't look good. If I were a hetero woman, I'd be bitching about fat gross nasty USA men! It's the ugliest country in the world, PERIOD!Not that I'm really checking out guys, but compared to latin and asian men I think we do quite well. After all it's the latin and asian women that generally prefer us over their own men. But the point of the post was for fun, and if you're too old to go out in a college town and party it up then you're not going to be seeing many hot women in the US anyway. It's still a long way off before the US isn't the best country for women because of the variety, I never said anything about consistency. If I want a red head, blonde, asian, latina, and black chick back to back I sure can't get that in any other country.
LittleTruths
07-22-11, 15:03
If I want a red head, blonde, asian, latina, and black chick back to back I sure can't get that in any other country.Ever been to Europe?
The problem is the weak dollar and low wage mentality does nothing to solve that."weak dollar" LOL. Sounds like not enough weak dollars in your pocket is the problem.
Bango Cheito
07-22-11, 18:58
Ever been to Europe?Hell, I can get all that without even leaving Bogota! And they take MUCH better care of themselves too. Not to mention you can actually have a conversation that doesn't make you want to stab yourself with an icepick to alleviate the boredom!
MadisonGuy
07-22-11, 19:55
Hell, I can get all that without even leaving Bogota! And they take MUCH better care of themselves too. Not to mention you can actually have a conversation that doesn't make you want to stab yourself with an icepick to alleviate the boredom!Now you're really dreaming. Ha ha those highly educated blonde columbians are falling from the sky. Columbian women are hot I will give you that, but they are the most shallow of the latin community and some of the hottest tempered. We've got plenty of them in the midwest no reason to go get killed in a third world country for girls who only want your money regardless of where they live. When in Costa Rica the second I find out they are columbian I cut them loose, I definetely wouldn't put that country on a has all list.
Bango Cheito
07-23-11, 00:24
Now you're really dreaming. Ha ha those highly educated blonde columbians are falling from the sky. Columbian women are hot I will give you that, but they are the most shallow of the latin community and some of the hottest tempered. We've got plenty of them in the midwest no reason to go get killed in a third world country for girls who only want your money regardless of where they live. When in Costa Rica the second I find out they are columbian I cut them loose, I definetely wouldn't put that country on a has all list.Now you're DEFINITELY showing your lack of experience. Outside of Colombia you get all the scum from here. For the quality stuff you have to be here.
As for highly educated, there is NO country with WORSE education than the USA bro!!!
MadisonGuy
07-23-11, 03:28
Now you're DEFINITELY showing your lack of experience. Outside of Colombia you get all the scum from here. For the quality stuff you have to be here.
As for highly educated, there is NO country with WORSE education than the USA bro!Hey bro, you should do some fact checking first before you throw out statements with certainty like that. The USA happens to be #2 in the world, behind Canada and ahead of Japan. Colombia fails to make the top 10, they also fail to make the top ten in most beautiful women. The US is somewhere around 6. The term they use around here for people running around screaming things that aren't true is village idiot.
"Hey bro, you should do some fact checking first before you throw out statements with certainty like that. The USA happens to be #2 in the world, behind Canada and ahead of Japan."
Based on what criteria? Do you have a source for that? Because I have taught at institutions of higher education in four countries on three continents so are we talking about:
1) Years of average education? I think you are basing off that. Problem there is it ignores quality.
2) Qualification of the teachers? Because that depends on where they went to school.
3) Standardized test scores?
4) Some shit you pulled out of your ass?
There are a lot of ways to have an "educational system," up to and including (in my opinion) teaching things that are largely ignored in the US educational system, such as how to cook, manage a budget, treat older or disabled folks, or raise non-hysterical children.
One problem in the US is that the parents tend to be pretty hysterical and dysfunctional and obsessive, and so this rubs off on the children. That is also an example of an educational system.
Bad guess. I'm certified in TEFL but have only done a little of it on the side. As an example of a country which I believe has a better educational system than the US, I would give you The Netherlands. BTW "free" public education in the US is no longer a given with all the textbook fees and such. Although, the ACLU made California stop doing that stuff, but only because their state constitution doesn't allow it. Do you have a source as to the US giving out more free college educations than any other country? I'm sure the US has a better educational system than the majority of countries in the world, but it is definitely not improving.
Bango Cheito
07-23-11, 21:27
I love the way the moment anybody says anything remotely negative about the shitbag USA has-been country, people have to go ad-hominem immediately. The reason for this is because they are also products of the flawed educational system and lack objectivity and the ability to analyze things in a critical fashion. Thus they have to result to low-level rhetoric, stupid out-of-date slogans, and personal insults.
I have both a Canadian and American passport, and am applying for Colombian residency. I intend to continue making my home here in Colombia, stay here and put roots down. It's far from perfect, but I love it here.
The US has the 6th most beautiful women in the world? ONLY an American would be naive enough to swallow that one. Anybody else from anywhere out of North America would HOWL with laughter at such a ridiculous proposition. That's as good as people here who think that Colombian women actually LIKE the typical fat pasty badly-dressed gringo look HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAH!
All you have to do to verify how much better educated Colombians are is TALK TO ONE. Oh wait, none of you guys slagging me on here can even string more than two words of Spanish together. Well, I guess that explains your total lack of perspective on the subject :P
Lustforthrust
07-23-11, 22:04
Colombians are the shallowest women of all women and they'd be the most likely of all chicas to "LIKE the typical fat pasty badly-dressed gringo look". I wouldn't be surprised 1 bit that the "the typical fat pasty badly-dressed gringo" would live on the cheap in a 3rd world country like Colombia, flashing his US & Canadian passport to get some wetness going between the chicas' legs.
LittleTruths
07-24-11, 00:39
I'm guessing you don't because you know as well as everyone else that it's the best passport / citizenship in the world to have and the benefits of being American are remarkable.You will forgive my getting into this heated propagandistic stretch of yours, but I'm curious to know what makes you think that an American passport / citizenship carries advantages compared to those of any other first-world country. As far as I've heard, and correct me if I'm wrong, an American citizen's income is still taxed back home even if the person is resident abroad and makes that income abroad with no relation whatsoever to the USA. If that's so, I wouldn't call that an advantage. Cavity inspection and no-fly lists don't ring any bell in the advantages list either. The special dedicated areas in major airports that cater to American and Israelis and the flights to their countries aren't meant to offer some sort of privileged treatment, if you know what I mean. Seeing the world outside of your own country's borders as a dangerous place where bad guys are out hiding in the bushes to get you doesn't look like much of an advantage either.
I'm not trying to trow shit at you, just pointing out that each and every country has its ups and downs and that your propagandistic views sound pretty much like a "My dad could beat your dad up." kindergarten-level argument.
The subject of this forum is American Women, and since genetically-speaking there is no such a thing (unless we want to consider Native Americans) it must be then cristal-clear that it refers to a "cultural" phenomenon.
Bless
You will forgive my getting into this heated propagandistic stretch of yours, but I'm curious to know what makes you think that an American passport / citizenship carries advantages compared to those of any other first-world country.If it had no advantages, why are so many people in so many other places trying to get one?
US citizens are taxed on world-wide income but if they are out of the country 11 months or more (330 days actually) of the year, they aren't taxed on earned income, only on dividends, interest, rents, royalties, and so forth. This is true of American Women as well, just to keep the thread 2% on track. Me, I would much rather have an EU passport because I could live permanently in what is it, 27 different countries now?
I like fucking Native American women. I have fucked Navajos (Dine'h if you prefer), Utes, and Sioux that I know of and would give the Sioux the edge. Actually the best one was half Ogallala Sioux and half Navajo. But they pale in comparison to the Guaraní from Paraguay. Mapuche are good fucks but are kinda cube shaped.
Lustforthrust
07-24-11, 02:40
Your worldwide income is subject to USA income tax, regardless of where you reside and regardlesss of the time overseas. In the UK, you get an exemption if you are overseas 12 months or so.
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/article/0,,id=97324,00.html
The top rate of Federal tax is 28, about 6 states have no income-tax. Many others have no sales-tax (VAT to the Euros). Most Euros have tax deducted at source, unlike US, UK, Oz and other English-speaking states.
US has the lowest income-tax of the devloped world; countries like Hong Kong, Sing and the like being the exception.
Over 1/2 of the US citizens/residents pay no income-tax, due to out-of-control deductions. But everyone is required to file.
PRC income tax is 45% for those making $13,000/year. They have double taxation treaties with Hong Kong (top rate is 15%) , USA and others.
Many have gotten away with not filing/not paying for decades, before they get the creeps and then make a deal (with the assistance a tax-agent) with the IRS. A fat old hag (American Woman) working for the IRS represents Uncle Sam and no one ever gets away cheating or abusing US.
Lustforthrust
07-24-11, 03:05
Yes, but a minute ago you were agreeing with someone about not having to pay US income-tax on overseas income.
Dickhead is vaguely referrring to Canadain income tax; where income overseas is not subject to Canuck taxes provided you have no tax-liablility in Canada. So, if Dickhead is a canuck and sells his Igloo or his apt he is liable to canuck authorities for his income sourced in Euroland or elsewhere.
Lustforthrust
07-24-11, 03:11
How much are igloos going for these days?Far less than an American Woman I'd imagine.
I ain't "vaguely referring" to Canadian income tax, about which I know nothing. Any moron who can spell google can find out the top US tax rate is 35% and not 28, and I am referring to the foreign earned income exclusion claimed on Form 2555. Top rate will revert to 39. 6% in 2013 absent legislation to the contrary. The vast majority of the states in the US have sales taxes. Can we get back to pussy now?
Member #2041
07-24-11, 04:30
Far less than an American Woman I'd imagine.Right but more to the point, which is more frigid, your typical Igloo, or your typical American Woman?
Bango Cheito
07-24-11, 05:04
Sounds like a great system for higher learning:
The Colombian higher education system comprises technical institutes, and technological and academic universities. Most of these align with government programs with the exception of those with church affiliations. Academic strata include undergraduate degrees, graduate programs, masters degrees and doctorates.
Sadly, access to tertiary education currently remains restricted to the sons and daughters of wealthy city dwellers. Until this changes, a tertiary education remains a dream for children trapped in rural squalor.Dude that's just plain wrong. Public universities in Colombia are FREE for anybody smart enough to pass the admissions exam, and if you're of limited economic means you can even get a stipend for books and such. The same as they USED to be in the USA back in the day. And Colombia is one of many many countries that still has this.
Not to mention we have a multi-tier healthcare system that actually WORKS most of the time, as opposed to 1 in 6 people having NO access to even the most basic healthcare.
I keep my US passport because I still have kids living there unfortunately, and because sometimes it's good to fly THROUGH there on the way to better destinations :P should both of those change I will gladly wipe my ass with it.
Sometimes I lie about where I'm from when people ask me here, or I just tell them I don't want to talk about it.
The pasty gringo look here in Colombia is a hit with a limited minority of girls who see $$$ in their eyes. As long as you remember that you'll be fine here. But once you take money out of the equation it's a whole different ball game. This is the most body-conscious country in the whole world. Fortunately I've gone from a 44 waist to a 37 due to the fact I no longer have to eat damaged USA food :P.
This just to say that AW AND AM are considered gross by the vast majority of the rest of the world.
LittleTruths
07-24-11, 10:00
Don't be a hater just because I live in a country that is one of the best in the world. Hate where your from.ROFLMAO; you almost convinced me!
Chill down now. Drink a glass of water, breath deeply and don't worry, everything is fine.
Let's get back to pussy.
Last week a friend of mine working in a restaurant in Amsterdam told me a story (complete with pictures) of how two A girls walked in and created a show, eventually ending up sucking a waiter's dick in the bathroom and the other one fucking in the back room. They were pretty hot too.
I've thought wow, and to think that people complains about AW giving no game! LOL
Bless
MadisonGuy
07-24-11, 12:33
"Hey bro, you should do some fact checking first before you throw out statements with certainty like that. The USA happens to be #2 in the world, behind Canada and ahead of Japan."
Based on what criteria? Do you have a source for that? Because I have taught at institutions of higher education in four countries on three continents so are we talking about:
1) Years of average education? I think you are basing off that. Problem there is it ignores quality.
2) Qualification of the teachers? Because that depends on where they went to school.
3) Standardized test scores?
4) Some shit you pulled out of your ass?
There are a lot of ways to have an "educational system," up to and including (in my opinion) teaching things that are largely ignored in the US educational system, such as how to cook, manage a budget, treat older or disabled folks, or raise non-hysterical children.
One problem in the US is that the parents tend to be pretty hysterical and dysfunctional and obsessive, and so this rubs off on the children. That is also an example of an educational system.Unlike you I don't pull stuff out of my ass. That's great that Columbia has great teachers, but if they are only teaching 1% of the population what good is it. If you are smart enough to google top 10 countries of education I'm sure you will find plenty of info. They use the percentage of people that have went to college. I'm a little concerned after your last post though that there is a little pot calling the kettle black here. From your waist size you went to severly obese to obese and you're calling all Americans fat? Don't be mad because you couldn't stop yourself from going to McDonalds too often, obviously it's going to be hard to pick up good looking American women when you are obese so it's not even a fair account of women here if you're only sleeping with the ugly.
"They use the percentage of people that have went to college."
I rest my case.
I also think the reason you moved to Colombia is because you are one of the overweight, pasty, bald, overweight Americans and couldn't get a girl in his own country so he moved to a third world country where the women care more about money then looks. There's no way you could be sexually appealing to the women in Colombia ever with a 37" waist.Alpha males get the alpha females. True the world over. Lower-caste males far down on the food chain can always go to other countries where women there either can't get a true read on their status, or else are just looking for a walking wallet. Anyone who thinks he is magically transformed into an attractive and interesitng person by sitting in the back of a plane for half the night is self-deluded. But hey, if its working for him, more power to the little Boingo Cheetos doing the best they can for themselves.
ThatGuy865
07-24-11, 19:54
Just a couple comments on what you wrote. First, and most importantly, you expose yourself as a liar by not remembering what you said in previous posts. You stated that you have both US and Canadian passports. If this is so then there is no need to keep your USA passport to "Stop through on the way to better countries". Your Canadian passport is good enough for that and you can stay 90 days. So why don't you wipe your ass with it now and give it up. Your reasoning is bogus and I'm guessing your kids are smarter then you for knowing a good place when they see it. I also agree with the other poster that stated if you had a 44" waist that you were obese. No one forced you to walk into McDonalds and eat crap food. Put the burger down pudgy! You can eat good or you can eat bad in America. Just because you had no self control doesn't mean that everyone can't eat a proper diet. I also think the reason you moved to Colombia is because you are one of the overweight, pasty, bald, overweight Americans and couldn't get a girl in his own country so he moved to a third world country where the women care more about money then looks. There's no way you could be sexually appealing to the women in Colombia ever with a 37" waist. Sounds like you have self esteem problems. Maybe you should come back and get some counseling to deal with your deep seated issues. IMan debating with BC on Columbia vs the USA is like talking astrophysics to a 6th grader.
There isn't one statistic that can be shown where Columbia tops the USA. In any area.
But if he loves it there. Let him rave. He had a 44 inch waist while living in the USA and wonders why he wasn't getting women. Obviously he went there and finally realized he had to lose weight to get even poor 3rd world women. So that in itself speaks volumes. Now that he's finally able to get women "he ecstatic" and thinks he's in heaven. More power to him.
As for Columbia being the most "body-conscious" country in the world. I think a lot of Brazilians would disagree. And those who have been there.
"There isn't one statistic that can be shown where Columbia tops the USA. In any area."
I can think of a few areas where Colombia tops the US.
1) Murders.
2) Availability of cocaine (useful for weight loss)
3) Counterfeit money.
I used to add availability of marijuana to that list but that's no longer true, at least regarding the last place I lived in the US.
We could take this to Best Countries for STR or something if we wanted to stay on topic. But who gives a shit? We don't have too much original left to say about AW any more
Dude. I know English is your second language but this is known as sarcasm. Colombia has more murders than the US, so Colombia "tops" the US in murders (on a per capita or percentage basis). More cocaine is available in Colombia so it "tops" the US in that category. And so forth.
I didn't actually put the quote marks in the original posts. That kind of spoils the sarcasm. BTW I saw a chick here today carrying a purse that said "Pürne" on it. Think it was counterfeit? You'd think if they went to the trouble to put the umlaut on there, they could spell it right.
Bango Cheito
07-25-11, 16:11
OK fine, so Colombia has a high murder rate. Why would I give a fuck? That's not #1 in my criteria for choosing a place in which to live. Every time some moron gets killed it's another seat on the bus for the rest of us.
To me this place tops the US in areas where statistics don't show. And some areas where statistics DO show, like for example 98% of the population here has access to basic healthcare, as compared to 84% in the USA. That's a pretty big number.
I came down here, started partying like I was a teenager again. Sex, drugs, and rock and roll baby! When I was in NYC I slept more, took better care of myself, and drank and partied a helluva lot less. But I was in way worse shape. Here the weight just comes off. There IS no way to eat healthy in the US. It's all been injected and altered and stuffed with chemicals.
Colombian cities also have way better public transit than US cities. I hate cars and HATE driving. For me it's several notches DOWN on the quality of life somewhere I can't use a bicycle or public transit. I can't STAND that in the US you are forced to drive everywhere most of the time. I also don't have a statistic for that one. But I notice the difference every time I have to go out.
And actually USA women are FAR more forgiving of a fat man than Colombian women are, once you take the gold-digging factor out the equation (in my case it's out completely these days because I'm STONE BROKE). BUT. Colombian women are such better catches I couldn't be bothered to even worry what a fat ignorant nasty smelly US girl thinks of me. I doubt the general would even salute at this point. I can't back my point up with statistics because there ARE no meaningful statistics on those sorts of things, I just once again notice the difference every time somebody opens their mouth here, and even more so every time a girl's panties come off.
But hey, if you guys want to pork those trolls up there, more power to ya and less competition for me down here!
Bango Cheito
07-25-11, 16:48
Another thing, TOTALLY classeless to insult me calling me a fucking "6th grader" and you can't even spell "Colombia" right after being corrected RIGHT ON THE BOARD.
You can talk shit all you want about your great USA education, but the way you carry yourself even on this forum proves my point. Blissfully unaware of your own gross ignorance. Pull up your fucking pants, your ass and balls are showing my nigga!
This is exactly the shit I NO LONGER have to put up with since I moved from the US. I'll honestly say it's WORTH IT to not be able to keep a nice cell phone here just to not be surrounded 24/7 by THAT class of people!
Bango Cheito
07-25-11, 21:51
Areas where Colombia beats out the US STATISTICALLY:
% of people with access to healthcare (98)
-average age (26. 3) important for those chasing pussy I guess.
% of people living in cities (78%) also important for chasing pussy, they're more conveniently contained, plus people living in cities take better care of their appearance.
-import / export ratio of oil (Colombia breaks even, USA has to import tons)
-trade deficit.
-energy footprint (10% of USA)
None of that is why I'm here, I'm here mainly for the music, the pussy is a nice fringe benefit, but a BIG BIG one. Out of all the women I've slept with the top 10 best fucks have ALL been Colombian women. So I guess there's another statistic for you to put in your pipes and smoke. Unfortunately I lost count of the # of women I've slept with back in 1996 or so, so I guess the data's a little incomplete.
In the end, statistics don't mean shit to me. The USA and Canada are puritanital anti-sex anti-social miserable places to live. There's no way to describe that with numbers.
Well, one thing a high murder rate will do is keep that average age down. Actually a high average age has a lot of negative economic implications, when you have fewer workers in comparison to retirees. Japan, Italy, and Spain in particular are finding that out, but the US is affected increasingly as well. I have no idea if Colombia has a retirement system or not.
BC does make a good point about the mass transit. There are some cities in the US where you can live without a car but not many, and public transportation is rather expensive as well. Public transportation in the US is improving somewhat, though. The whole car thing is probably the second worst thing about living in the US, after the whole woman thing. The third worst thing about the US is probably the whole having to go to a doctor when you know you have strep throat (or the fucking clap) and need penicillin thing. You got to wait and wait and then they look in your throat for five seconds, tell you you have strep, give you the script, and charge you an outlandish amount. Of course the flip side of it is, at least here in Argentina, they take antibiotics all the fucking time, for anything and everything, without having any idea what they are doing.
But if I had to choose between living in the US and living in Colombia (I only know Medellín and and Bogotá) that would be a very tough call. If I didn't look like such a bog-trotting little Mick, I might be able to live in Colombia but I just found it too dangerous, and I can handle a pretty good level of that shit.
Fortunately I don't have to worry about it because my Argentinean favorita is a dead ringer for Shakira so that gives me my colombiana fix when I need it. I got a major, major thing for Shakira. Intelligent women are very sexy, especially when they are very sexy to begin with.
MadisonGuy
07-26-11, 05:36
I think you're still way off the beginning topic. It's not about what country is better in general it's about what country would be best for mongering if you could pick any. I just got back from Chicago and I saw every type of beautiful woman from every country with mixtures of breast sizes, waists, tattoos, anything you could dream up I'm sure I saw it. I think the US sucks when it comes to politics and it is a rapidly decaying country, but regardless of the % of fat women there's still unbelievably hot ones and the variety is unmatched. Someone said Europe, well maybe but that really isn't a country and I don't think there's one city with as much diversity as a New York or Chicago. If women were forced to monger there I would have died and gone to heaven. I get bored easily as I'm sure a good number of mongers do, so that includes any type of girl from a country where the gene pool is still pretty similar, ie Colombia, Philippines, Costa Rica. Even in Europe they have had similar looks the places that I went. I want to screw an irish red head one day and a dark latin girl the next with out hopping on a plane. If you really don't like white women then I would agree that America wouldn't hold the same draw. I like them all so I still have to deal with the bull here.
MadisonGuy
07-26-11, 05:42
Well, one thing a high murder rate will do is keep that average age down. Actually a high average age has a lot of negative economic implications, when you have fewer workers in comparison to retirees. Japan, Italy, and Spain in particular are finding that out, but the US is affected increasingly as well. I have no idea if Colombia has a retirement system or not.
BC does make a good point about the mass transit. There are some cities in the US where you can live without a car but not many, and public transportation is rather expensive as well. Public transportation in the US is improving somewhat, though. The whole car thing is probably the second worst thing about living in the US, after the whole woman thing. The third worst thing about the US is probably the whole having to go to a doctor when you know you have strep throat (or the fucking clap) and need penicillin thing. You got to wait and wait and then they look in your throat for five seconds, tell you you have strep, give you the script, and charge you an outlandish amount. Of course the flip side of it is, at least here in Argentina, they take antibiotics all the fucking time, for anything and everything, without having any idea what they are doing.I agree but you don't need to live there for medicine. I stock up anytime I leave the country, I would assume most monger outside US atleast once a year that's plenty if you're taking more than that you're probably just looking to screw yourself down the road because taking to much can make it not work so I've been told. I will say I think I got gringo fucked in the Philippines, it was like $25 for amoxocillin and doxocycline which I don't think the people there can afford. From now on I think I will just have the bell boy get me shit because I'm too damn american / european looking.
I I don't think there's one city with as much diversity as a New York or Chicago. If women were forced to monger there I would have died and gone to heaven.I totally agree with this statement. I live here (Native NY'er) and I can tell you that right now the streets are SWARMING with beautiful women of all shapes sizes and nationalities. Whatever you want you got it. Now that the weather has been so warm women are wearing almost nothing. It's beautiful.
I think what happens to guys here like me is our experiences have jaded us. Deep down we know the limits with these women. There is no sense of "hope" for some guys so the attraction goes away.
Lately there has been an influx of east indian and pakistani women which is driving me nuts.
Big US cities are a tease. Once you reach a certain age the hope fades and you stop looking at it or lusting after it.
If you have never seen a cute puerto rican girl from the bronx in her summer clothes it might be worth a trip here. Otherwise yeah. Candy store without any money to purchase anything.
You hit the nail in the head! No one said tha there are not beauties here in Sex Prison. It is their attitudes that make them completely undesirable. The percentages of "cute" women in the US is where I have a serious problem in comparison to just about any other country I visited, though. I say, in the US when walking down the street or just people watching, I'd say the ratio is about 1 or 2 in 10 worth looking at if at all. That's anywhere in Sex prison. By comparison I leave the US and go to say the DR, Central or South America anywhere, the ratio of women worth looking at goes from anywhere from 5 to sometime 6 in 10 worth a second look.
Go to any gym in any of these other countries and it is just unbelievable what you will see as far as a sexy looking, healthy, well cared for female. In Puritan Land I can't stand all the beefaloes that go to the gym in full make-up, wanting every fan turned on in the place along with the AC because they don't want their mascara to run; they must look cute while at the gym! Yes, at least they are trying to improve their appearance, but I can't stand the bovine shaped whales that seem to be the norm everywhere I look around in my Prison Yard! Again, if it is just numbers you seek, you need to get out of wherever you are in the US, take your passport and the amount of women with better looks and attitude goes way up if you stay out of first world countries.
I totally agree with this statement. I live here (Native NY'er) and I can tell you that right now the streets are SWARMING with beautiful women of all shapes sizes and nationalities. Whatever you want you got it. Now that the weather has been so warm women are wearing almost nothing. It's beautiful.
I think what happens to guys here like me is our experiences have jaded us. Deep down we know the limits with these women. There is no sense of "hope" for some guys so the attraction goes away.
Lately there has been an influx of east indian and pakistani women which is driving me nuts.
Big US cities are a tease. Once you reach a certain age the hope fades and you stop looking at it or lusting after it.
If you have never seen a cute puerto rican girl from the bronx in her summer clothes it might be worth a trip here. Otherwise yeah. Candy store without any money to purchase anything.
Bango Cheito
07-26-11, 07:42
Well, one thing a high murder rate will do is keep that average age down. Actually a high average age has a lot of negative economic implications, when you have fewer workers in comparison to retirees. Japan, Italy, and Spain in particular are finding that out, but the US is affected increasingly as well. I have no idea if Colombia has a retirement system or not.
BC does make a good point about the mass transit. There are some cities in the US where you can live without a car but not many, and public transportation is rather expensive as well. Public transportation in the US is improving somewhat, though. The whole car thing is probably the second worst thing about living in the US, after the whole woman thing. The third worst thing about the US is probably the whole having to go to a doctor when you know you have strep throat (or the fucking clap) and need penicillin thing. You got to wait and wait and then they look in your throat for five seconds, tell you you have strep, give you the script, and charge you an outlandish amount. Of course the flip side of it is, at least here in Argentina, they take antibiotics all the fucking time, for anything and everything, without having any idea what they are doing.
But if I had to choose between living in the US and living in Colombia (I only know Medellíand and and Bogotá) that would be a very tough call. If I didn't look like such a bog-trotting little Mick, I might be able to live in Colombia but I just found it too dangerous, and I can handle a pretty good level of that shit.
Fortunately I don't have to worry about it because my Argentinean favorita is a dead ringer for Shakira so that gives me my colombiana fix when I need it. I got a major, major thing for Shakira. Intelligent women are very sexy, especially when they are very sexy to begin with.I prefer Colombia to live for many reasons, I was literally looking all over the place and I chose here.
Argentina is not for me because there are just too many flat-assed big-nosed women there, the music scene is totally faded, probably as bad as NYC or maybe worse, and I just don't like the Argies' constant attitude. I find them hard to take except for in very small doses. I'd love to be able to eat matambre every day though :P.
I also considered Brazil but Brazil is too insular and ignorant of the rest of the world. Big countries seem to get like that.
I'd say for mongering it's between Colombia and Brazil. Colombia has more volume of places and girls working (no lie the latest data says 210, 000 WGs in Bogota ALONE) , and the price is right here. Brazil perhaps has better quality of service, but maybe depends where you go.
MadisonGuy
07-26-11, 17:02
You hit the nail in the head! No one said tha there are not beauties here in Sex Prison. It is their attitudes that make them completely undesirable. The percentages of "cute" women in the US is where I have a serious problem in comparison to just about any other country I visited, though. I say, in the US when walking down the street or just people watching, I'd say the ratio is about 1 or 2 in 10 worth looking at if at all. That's anywhere in Sex prison. By comparison I leave the US and go to say the DR, Central or South America anywhere, the ratio of women worth looking at goes from anywhere from 5 to sometime 6 in 10 worth a second look.
Go to any gym in any of these other countries and it is just unbelievable what you will see as far as a sexy looking, healthy, well cared for female. In Puritan Land I can't stand all the beefaloes that go to the gym in full make-up, wanting every fan turned on in the place along with the AC because they don't want their mascara to run; they must look cute while at the gym! Yes, at least they are trying to improve their appearance, but I can't stand the bovine shaped whales that seem to be the norm everywhere I look around in my Prison Yard! Again, if it is just numbers you seek, you need to get out of wherever you are in the US, take your passport and the amount of women with better looks and attitude goes way up if you stay out of first world countries.I think artistt knows exactly the way I feel. As I turn 30 I start to have faded hopes of picking up a fresh girl out of high school, but damn some of them are looking so good and they are mixed more and more 1/2mex 1/2amer. 1/2greek 1/2amer. It's just becoming a more normal place to have mixtures than be pure here. As far as a ratio I would have to agree some what that in other countries there is a higher rate if you like whatever that particular country has. But it's not fair to take only that into consideration because what if the guy doesn't like latin women, or black, or asian, that is what makes the US so great is that it doesn't matter what you like you will find it here. I think the gym was a poor comparison because if you go to the gym here the women are hot too, that's where they go to stay hot. It's the others than think going to McDonalds or Walmart is a work out that ain't so great. Actually where I live if you go to Target it's like do-me-R-us. Sometimes I just go to Target to look at the trim.
I prefer Colombia to live for many reasons, I was literally looking all over the place and I chose here.Many reasons? There are hot women EVERYWHERE. You just needed to find a place where they were in your price range.
Mr Enternational
07-26-11, 19:39
Ummm. Not getting why he would have to pay her spousal support. Isn't she already super rich and has enough money to support herself? Maybe it would be better to change the name to revenge fee (at least in this case).
The Associated Press
LOS ANGELES — Arnold Schwarzenegger has amended a divorce filing and withdrawn a request that a judge terminate Maria Shriver's rights to spousal support.
The actor and former California governor's filing replaces a document he submitted last week that also indicated he wanted Shriver to pay her own attorney's fees. The amended response filed Monday in Los Angeles states Schwarzenegger is also willing to pay his estranged wife's attorney.
The former couple's 13-year-old son remains hospitalized after a recent body-boarding accident left him with a collapsed lung.
Shriver filed for divorce July 1. Her petition to end the couple's 25-year-marriage came weeks after Schwarzenegger revealed he fathered a child with a member of his household staff years ago.
July 26, 2011 12:40 PM EDT
MadisonGuy
07-27-11, 16:27
Ummm. Not getting why he would have to pay her spousal support. Isn't she already super rich and has enough money to support herself? Maybe it would be better to change the name to revenge fee (at least in this case).
The Associated Press
LOS ANGELES — Arnold Schwarzenegger has amended a divorce filing and withdrawn a request that a judge terminate Maria Shriver's rights to spousal support.
The actor and former California governor's filing replaces a document he submitted last week that also indicated he wanted Shriver to pay her own attorney's fees. The amended response filed Monday in Los Angeles states Schwarzenegger is also willing to pay his estranged wife's attorney.
The former couple's 13-year-old son remains hospitalized after a recent body-boarding accident left him with a collapsed lung.
Shriver filed for divorce July 1. Her petition to end the couple's 25-year-marriage came weeks after Schwarzenegger revealed he fathered a child with a member of his household staff years ago.
July 26, 2011 12:40 PM EDTI wish I could get a divorce and have my wife pay for me to live in Costa Rica or Philippines for a couple years, that would be awesome. Unfortunately a lawyer would get most of it and I would end up with enough to live in the ghetto which won't work for me.
ThatGuy865
07-28-11, 00:53
Areas where Colombia beats out the US STATISTICALLY:
% of people with access to healthcare (98)
-average age (26. 3) important for those chasing pussy I guess.
% of people living in cities (78%) also important for chasing pussy, they're more conveniently contained, plus people living in cities take better care of their appearance.
-import / export ratio of oil (Colombia breaks even, USA has to import tons)
-trade deficit.
-energy footprint (10% of USA)
None of that is why I'm here, I'm here mainly for the music, the pussy is a nice fringe benefit, but a BIG BIG one. Out of all the women I've slept with the top 10 best fucks have ALL been Colombian women. So I guess there's another statistic for you to put in your pipes and smoke. Unfortunately I lost count of the # of women I've slept with back in 1996 or so, so I guess the data's a little incomplete.
In the end, statistics don't mean shit to me. The USA and Canada are puritanital anti-sex anti-social miserable places to live. There's no way to describe that with numbers.Actually Bango. You don't beat the USA in health care either. 100% of Americans can get health care. Its against the law for public hospitals to turn away ANYONE from an emergency room. Even illegals get health care in the USA. That why they are claimed to be a burdened on our society.
For that matter anyone can go to public schools in the USA. Even illegals. And you say that about Colombia.
As for average age being 26. That shows how poor the quality of health care and availability is in Colombia. Because it low because the life expectancy age is lower than the USA. Do to the quality, and availability of health care in America.
Import to export ratio. Of course. America has the most money. So where do you think countries are going to ship their goods to sell.
Somalia beats us in import / export ratio too for that matter. How many countries send good there.
Carbon footprint. Well we have 3 times as many people. Again of course.
Comparing Colombia to the USA is like comparing apples to oranges. Their on two different levels. America has budget problems. The world suffers. Colombia has budget problems. Nobody notices.
But let get on to women. As previously stated in another post good Beautiful women are everywhere.
Guys are getting married every day. Yeah divorce is high. But a lot of that has to do with the ease of which a person can get a divorce in America. And the support that women can get when leaving. There are shelters every where now to help AW.
AW are making more money and getting better jobs now than ever in the past. AW are less dependent on a man than in other countries. The less opportunities for women. The more they will be dependent on men. Right now more women are attending college than men.
Sure there are a few women who make it in the corporate world in Colombia. But the numbers are no where close to the number of women making it in America
All this come into play in American relationships. Good or bad. It is what it is.
But I'm happy for you. If you love it in Colombia. Each guy has to find the place that makes them happy. But that doesn't make that place better. Its just right for him. Enjoy Colombia and I hope it works out for you there. Peace.
Bango Cheito
07-28-11, 07:41
Actually Bango. You don't beat the USA in health care either. 100% of Americans can get health care. Its against the law for public hospitals to turn away ANYONE from an emergency room. Even illegals get health care in the USA. That why they are claimed to be a burdened on our society.The law is they have to STABILIZE them. They don't have to do anything about long-standing conditions or non-life-threatening conditions. So sorry, doesn't count. Those people are missing BASIC medical care. Now to be fair there ARE "disaster relief" programs in SOME states.
For that matter anyone can go to public schools in the USA. Even illegals. And you say that about Colombia.Wrong again bro. The Colombian constitution guarantees the right of every child to a free public education. There's also food stamps, free or subsidized school lunches and breakfasts depending on income range, and public housing. I'm not in favor of many of these things on principle, but they're there.
As for average age being 26. That shows how poor the quality of health care and availability is in Colombia. Because it low because the life expectancy age is lower than the USA. Do to the quality, and availability of health care in America.The average age is low because there was a baby boom in Colombia from 1987-1993. The life expectancy is at 71. The extra 8 years you live in the US are spent rotting in a nursing home somewhere.
Import to export ratio. Of course. America has the most money. So where do you think countries are going to ship their goods to sell.
That money America "has" has been LENT BY THE CHINESE. I don't know why this doesn't enter into so many people's skulls. The Chinese decide to stop bankrolling the USA it's OVER!
Carbon footprint. Well we have 3 times as many people. Again of course.Not 3 times. 9 times as many. But of course, the statistic is per PERSON. Of course :P.
But let get on to women. As previously stated in another post good Beautiful women are everywhere.You can find SOME smokingly hot women in almost any big city on Earth. But the AVERAGE looks of women is way higher in Latin America than anywhere else in the world, and to me Colombia takes the lead.
Sure there are a few women who make it in the corporate world in Colombia. But the numbers are no where close to the number of women making it in America.Google a photo of the Colombian Congress, then of the American one, and honestly tell me where you see more women.
Bango Cheito
07-28-11, 07:48
Many reasons? There are hot women EVERYWHERE. You just needed to find a place where they were in your price range.I'm a lot younger and poorer than you're giving me credit for. I have to work on the local economy and make Colombian pesos. I'm there mainly for the music to tell you the truth, but I still don't see how you guys can even look TWICE at an ugly pushy nasty bitchy ignorant American after being in a place like Colombia.
ThatGuy865
07-28-11, 13:18
The law is they have to STABILIZE them. They don't have to do anything about long-standing conditions or non-life-threatening conditions. So sorry, doesn't count. Those people are missing BASIC medical care. Now to be fair there ARE "disaster relief" programs in SOME states.You are wrong. People go to emergency rooms with non lethal injuries and are taken care of. Colds, flu and the such. Yes when its life threatening all they do is stabilize you. Which is basically all they do in Colombia for the low tier.
Wrong again bro. The Colombian constitution guarantees the right of every child to a free public education. There's also food stamps, free or subsidized school lunches and breakfasts depending on income range, and public housing. I'm not in favor of many of these things on principle, but they're there.Not only citizens get educated in the USA. ANYONE in the USA Illegals too can you say that. And even with that the country is lower on literacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_literacy_rate
The average age is low because there was a baby boom in Colombia from 1987-1993. The life expectancy is at 71. The extra 8 years you live in the US are spent rotting in a nursing home somewhere.Please show this statistics of such a baby boom and it being the reason for low age.
Regardless of where. We live longer. I'll take that to dying. And nursing homes conditions are based on what one can afford. There are some which I WISH I were living in now.
That money America "has" has been LENT BY THE CHINESE. I don't know why this doesn't enter into so many people's skulls. The Chinese decide to stop bankrolling the USA it's OVER!Chinese loan the government money. Goods are imported to the USA because Americans have the "spare money" to spend buying goods.
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/06/0615_global_millionaires/2.htm
You can find SOME smokingly hot women in almost any big city on Earth. But the AVERAGE looks of women is way higher in Latin America than anywhere else in the world, and to me Colombia takes the lead.Thats an opinion.
Google a photo of the Colombian Congress, then of the American one, and honestly tell me where you see more women.Well in america. Women can get jobs outside of congress. Google who has the most women CEO's. Women millionares. Women executives.
I show links to facts. You talk opinions.
ThatGuy865
07-28-11, 13:20
I'm a lot younger and poorer than you're giving me credit for. I have to work on the local economy and make Colombian pesos. I'm there mainly for the music to tell you the truth, but I still don't see how you guys can even look TWICE at an ugly pushy nasty bitchy ignorant American after being in a place like Colombia.So. You had a 44 waist as you said. And you're poor. Wow. And you wonder why AW didn't flock to you.
Bango Cheito
07-29-11, 07:36
So. You had a 44 waist as you said. And you're poor. Wow. And you wonder why AW didn't flock to you.You really need to learn to read before you type. How many goddamn times do I have to repeat I DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING PUSSY IN THE USA.
My ***** has nothing to do with the AVAILABILITY of American pussy. My ***** has to do with the QUALITY. READ THAT!
I would say I have to work HARDER to get pussy in Colombia than I did in the USA. BUT it's WORTH IT. I consider it a good tradeoff because I'm enjoying a QUALITY previously unknown to me.
The rest of the stuff I'm not even going to respond to. I just don't care anymore and it's too much of a tangent. And you did the same thing, you just ignored what I typed and took it all the wrong way.
MadisonGuy
07-29-11, 14:07
You really need to learn to read before you type. How many goddamn times do I have to repeat I DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING PUSSY IN THE USA.
My * has nothing to do with the AVAILABILITY of American pussy. My * has to do with the QUALITY. READ THAT!
I would say I have to work HARDER to get pussy in Colombia than I did in the USA. BUT it's WORTH IT. I consider it a good tradeoff because I'm enjoying a QUALITY previously unknown to me.
The rest of the stuff I'm not even going to respond to. I just don't care anymore and it's too much of a tangent. And you did the same thing, you just ignored what I typed and took it all the wrong way.I'm sorry Bango your posts just don't seem to make sense, you would like us to believe that you were a fat hobo music guy in the US and you didn't have a problem getting girls in the US, not only that but it was harder to get girls in Colombia. That's pretty hard to believe those two things, I haven't been to Colombia but any other third world country it is a piece of cake to pick up a girl compared to US.
Bango Cheito
07-29-11, 15:27
I'm sorry Bango your posts just don't seem to make sense, you would like us to believe that you were a fat hobo music guy in the US and you didn't have a problem getting girls in the US, not only that but it was harder to get girls in Colombia. That's pretty hard to believe those two things, I haven't been to Colombia but any other third world country it is a piece of cake to pick up a girl compared to US.That's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
Remember, I'm not coming down to visit Colombia, I LIVE in Colombia. And I make local currency and struggle on the local economy like any Colombian. That means instead of just attracting a few gringo chasing gold diggers, I'm actually dealing with the WHOLE population. The good part is I get to meet people of a quality that the average visitor isn't even aware exists. The hard part is that I'm now playing by the REAL rules of engagement that exist in Colombia. And Colombia is NOT the DR, not Brazil, Peru etc. Once you take the $$$$$ out of the question, it's no longer easy to get laid. Believe me, it's WORTH it though. I have access to a world you can only DREAM of now, although I have had to work like a dog for it.
Once again, when you eliminate $$$$ from the equation, the truth is that Colombians are actually LESS materialistic and MORE demanding in the looks department than their gringa counterparts. IME a NYC girl will forgive any physical defect, not care about how ugly or ridiculously dressed or ignorant etc. A man is, as long as he has $$$$$ in his pocket. In the USA the cardinal sin is being BROKE. Nothing is more looked down on. In Colombia the cardinal sin is not looking good. Broke, pfffff. Colombian women are USED to that, just like in the USA girls are USED to people looking like shit, because both things are respectively very common in those places.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43948331/ns/today-entertainment/?gt1=43001
Note that the father of the child whom she was found innocent of killing remains "unidentified." Since there is no advantage for an AW not to name a putative father to go after for child support, one would suspect she got fucked by so many guys she truly had no idea, or the father is a relative, or someone paid her to keep her mouth shut. The latter could be ruled out since she did not know how to keep her mouth shut, the second can be ruled out because she would have used that in her pathetic defense, leaving only the first scenario as plausible.
She will probably end up marrying O. J. Simpson since they have so much in common.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/seeking-arrangement-college-students_n_913373.html?page=1
You guys need to read this. Young "college students" looking for sugar daddies to help pay for schooling debt and claiming that what they engage in should not be considered to be "prostitution" and that they should also not be seen as "working girls". Interesting read (and video) for sure!
Mr Enternational
08-01-11, 11:20
Once again, when you eliminate $$$$ from the equation, the truth is that Colombians are actually LESS materialistic and MORE demanding in the looks department than their gringa counterparts.My sentiments exactly as far as money is concerned. I don't know where people keep coming from with this materialistic Colombiana view. Maybe that is in the prepago world that I don't know anything about. My experience is just the opposite and part of the reason I don't deal with gringas. As far as the looks, I can't speak on how demanding they are since I'm actually a handsome devil to start with.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/seeking-arrangement-college-students_n_913373.html?page=1
You guys need to read this. Young "college students" looking for sugar daddies to help pay for schooling debt and claiming that what they engage in should not be considered to be "prostitution" and that they should also not be seen as "working girls". Interesting read (and video) for sure!That was an awesome read.
Regarding the comments, I can't stand people who write "It's sad that some men have to pay for sex". FUCK OFF.
In my opinion, it's sad that some men DON'T pay for sex. What the hell kind of life are you living that you never had a massage, or stripper, or (fill in the blank).
Mr Enternational
08-01-11, 16:31
That was an awesome read.
Regarding the comments, I can't stand people who write "It's sad that some men have to pay for sex". FUCK OFF.
In my opinion, it's sad that some men DON'T pay for sex. What the hell kind of life are you living that you never had a massage, or stripper, or (fill in the blank).Those people are on the outside looking in. Once they join the party there is no turning back for them.
Chocha Monger
08-02-11, 11:39
This shows how American women view their vaginas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxW_ZCd64tg&feature=player_embedded
Guys, my jaw dropped when I saw this. At first I was laughing then I just felt bad!
http://candy27rare.com/
Guys, my jaw dropped when I saw this. At first I was laughing then I just felt bad!
http://candy27rare.com/Felt bad for her or for the clients who pay $300 per hour for such "entertainment"?
SavePros321
08-08-11, 15:30
just a random rant:
television plays a very large role in the dumbing down of our culture. had the tube on usa network with no plans on sitting down and actually watching anything until later. a show called "covert affairs" was on:
http://www.usanetwork.com/series/covertaffairs/
here we have a hot-ass chick and her hot female sidekick (in this episode that was on) parachuting into the backyard of somewhere in russia to do some cia stuff. it's not even 5 minutes before they are surrounded by 5 russian military guys holding ak's on them, and the two hot-ass female cia agents are thrown into the back of a vehicle and are transported somewhere (stopped paying attention at this point).
now, if you are a fan of history then you know as well as i do is that usa network left out the part where the 5 russian military guys gang-bang the hell out of the two hot ass cia agents before tossing their asses into the back of the transport vehicle. and then the part where they get gang-banged some more by everyone at the holding station until the usa makes up their mind if and when they will rescue the two ditzes.
this is the stupidest concept for a show that i've seen in a long while. to have the audience assume that the female lead character is somehow left "untouched" in a holding cell, tied up, etc. while waiting on the usa gov. to come and rescue her is ridiculous. and i am positive she is captured more than once across the tv series. you'll then have some dumb hot broad watching this show and thinking to herself "wow, it would be soo cool to be a cia agent!" not realizing that if she gets captured in the field it is more than likely she gets her dumb-ass raped given that other countries don't play by the same rules that the u.s. does.
but at that point, her beef is with usa network since it is not in their best interest to reveal what would more than likely happen to a hot-ass female spy captured in a foreign country.
It always puzzles me how often I hear people talk about the stupid stuff they watch on television. Why do you watch it then? I am fortunate that I grew up without television. I watch sports sometimes but even then, the commercials drive me nuts. I am in some small town in Argentina now (Concordia, in Entre Rios province) and listening to ESPN baseball on the radio, and reading my Kindle. TV is fucking obnoxious.
Chocha Monger
08-12-11, 22:36
AW tells the cold hard truth to young guys trying to get pussy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N5S9tqEQxU&feature=related
aw tells the cold hard truth to young guys trying to get pussy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n5s9tqeqxu&feature=relatedi can understand wanting to be tossed by a burly alpha male versus a metro sexual biatch but that's where it ends for me. alpha male guys are usually good at earning so that makes sense but then they suck at the majority of other elements needed to make a relationship work. they will never be the guy she needs to talk to or have an available shoulder for her to cry on. the answer i guess is to date an alpha male and have biatch male friends?
this is the point where i refused to buy into women's neurosis and continued mongering. treat her like shit because you like her and pretend that she turns you off then go in for the kill when you have the opportunity. try explaining that to a developing mind. it doesn't surprise me what happens on college campuses with date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) drugs and all the other crap. work in progress.
if you strip everything away you get."women like to fuck and make money. the rest is bullshit". the same thing guys are into!
Bango Cheito
08-13-11, 19:24
i can understand wanting to be tossed by a burly alpha male versus a metro sexual biatch but that's where it ends for me. alpha male guys are usually good at earning so that makes sense but then they suck at the majority of other elements needed to make a relationship work. they will never be the guy she needs to talk to or have an available shoulder for her to cry on. the answer i guess is to date an alpha male and have biatch male friends?
this is the point where i refused to buy into women's neurosis and continued mongering. treat her like shit because you like her and pretend that she turns you off then go in for the kill when you have the opportunity. try explaining that to a developing mind. it doesn't surprise me what happens on college campuses with date [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) drugs and all the other crap. work in progress.
if you strip everything away you get."women like to fuck and make money. the rest is bullshit". the same thing guys are into!
take that last statment of yours and you'll realize that that's pretty much summing up everything the girl says in her video. she's spot on. men despise weak men. women despise weak men too. if you're a man, be strong or be unloved.
one thing i notice that seems to be some kind of bizarre bias in colombia is women often really dig skinny men, like so skinny i could knock them down with my little finger. i don't get what the sexual attraction is to men who look like a bunch of fucking aids victims. i get that fat is gross, but i'd rather be a little bit fat than too skinny any day of the week!!!
SavePros321
08-14-11, 00:36
Was just about to rummage through Backpage, but just saw a friendly reminder on the local news to make me just wait until I can get paroled from sex prison in a couple of months:
"Registered or not, Hall is making his political aspirations abundantly clear. He has a Facebook account identifying himself as a candidate for District B, and he also had what appears to be a campaign video posted on YouTube.
But his mug shot is how voters in District B may remember him from now on. On Thursday, the 25-year-old was arrested during an undercover police sting and charged with prostitution..."
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8303515&rss=rss-ktrk-article-8303515
Trying to pay for sex in sex prison just ain't worth it.
MadisonGuy
08-14-11, 07:26
Was just about to rummage through Backpage, but just saw a friendly reminder on the local news to make me just wait until I can get paroled from sex prison in a couple of months:
"Registered or not, Hall is making his political aspirations abundantly clear. He has a Facebook account identifying himself as a candidate for District B, and he also had what appears to be a campaign video posted on YouTube.
But his mug shot is how voters in District B may remember him from now on. On Thursday, the 25-year-old was arrested during an undercover police sting and charged with prostitution."
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8303515&rss=rss-ktrk-article-8303515
Trying to pay for sex in sex prison just ain't worth it.Eh I've had good luck off backpage and have a couple friends who I bounce stuff off and we share notes to weed out the dogs. To get convicted would be almost impossible unless you're an idiot, and the chance of getting in a sting I think is highly unlikely. I've heard of them at MP's but never heard of one off backpage, I got to imagine they would hit the MP first. The only bad thing about it is instead of seeing a bunch of girls on a stage or at a bar and picking you kind of just get stuck with whatever roll of the dice you get. To date I have had only 1 amazing experience off backpage, she was total GFE and super hot girl next door. Unfortunately she was in the biz for about 3 months and vanished. Other than that it's a bunch of smoking working girls who can't shut there damn trap, but the search for the diamond in the rough keeps me coming back for more.
SavePros321
08-14-11, 13:42
Eh I've had good luck off backpage and have a couple friends who I bounce stuff off and we share notes to weed out the dogs. To get convicted would be almost impossible unless you're an idiot, and the chance of getting in a sting I think is highly unlikely. I've heard of them at MP's but never heard of one off backpage, I got to imagine they would hit the MP first. The only bad thing about it is instead of seeing a bunch of girls on a stage or at a bar and picking you kind of just get stuck with whatever roll of the dice you get. To date I have had only 1 amazing experience off backpage, she was total GFE and super hot girl next door. Unfortunately she was in the biz for about 3 months and vanished. Other than that it's a bunch of smoking working girls who can't shut there damn trap, but the search for the diamond in the rough keeps me coming back for more.I agree with you. I think the biggest concern I've ever had on BP was getting robbed by an escort and her pimp or a female turning out to be completely different from her pics (more weight, no updated photos to give an accurate depiction of her aging ass). I still don't like the "give me the money first. Now, let's discuss what I don't do; no BBBJ, dfk, cim, etc." approach. In all of my 5 trips to the DR I've only been offered CBJ twice (and I usually bang 7-8 chicas per trip) and any "finishing" BBBJ had always been cim. Those two times I got CBJ was only because I failed to negotiate BBBJ beforehand. With Backpage escorts there is ZERO negations. The standard is CBJ and I've only gotten BBBJ three times. One of those times I literally had to beg for it in addition to offering a tip (whereas in the DR BBBJ is standard).
What I also like about the DR is that you pay the chicas AFTER your session; not before. If a chica tries to renege on anything the two of you negotiated beforehand, then her fee gets adjusted accordingly (like if she agreed to TLN but then tries to bail after you bust a nut).
No experience with MP's in sex prison though.
This Mexican woman I've been seeing long distance for nine months insists I demonstrate a commitment to her or she will date other men.
I care quite a bit for her, but suddenly the relationship has been converted to a high stakes card game. Actually, not such high stakes. I mean, she's a great travel companion, great in the sack, and seems to value the right things. On the flip side, she's nearing 40, a bit overweight, and hairier in some places than I am.
Now I'm basically being told if I don't commit, she'll be moving on after our vacation coming up. (She's insisted on paying her half of the expenses, by the way.)
Physically, I'm no Brad Pitt, have a head the size of a cinder block, but I'm in good shape and financially sound. I see her really for the beautiful person she is, but suddenly when she's trying to bulldog me into marriage, it pisses me off. Basically, she's saying if she doesn't get what she wants, she'll move on. Not much of a stretch to think that once in the marriage, they'll voice similar options.
I did compromise, though. I went to Facebook and noted that I am currently in a relationship. Now there's an entry with a heart by my name. Maybe that'll save my vacation.
Mr Enternational
08-18-11, 05:15
This Mexican woman I've been seeing long distance for nine months insists I demonstrate a commitment to her or she will date other men.
I care quite a bit for her, but suddenly the relationship has been converted to a high stakes card game. Actually, not such high stakes. I mean, she's a great travel companion, great in the sack, and seems to value the right things. On the flip side, she's nearing 40, a bit overweight, and hairier in some places than I am.
Now I'm basically being told if I don't commit, she'll be moving on after our vacation coming up. (She's insisted on paying her half of the expenses, by the way.)
Physically, I'm no Brad Pitt, have a head the size of a cinder block, but I'm in good shape and financially sound. I see her really for the beautiful person she is, but suddenly when she's trying to bulldog me into marriage, it pisses me off. Basically, she's saying if she doesn't get what she wants, she'll move on. Not much of a stretch to think that once in the marriage, they'll voice similar options.
I did compromise, though. I went to Facebook and noted that I am currently in a relationship. Now there's an entry with a heart by my name. Maybe that'll save my vacation.Come on mannnnn. You are cracking under pressure. I won't even let my main chicks on my facebook. They try to add me as a friend and I just ignore them. When they ask about it I tell them I'm never on that thing. If a woman gives you an ultimatum the best thing to do is bid her adieu and good luck. If she's that much into you then she will be back. But it appears yours would rather have a commitment regardless of who it's from.
"If a woman gives you an ultimatum the best thing to do is bid her adieu and good luck." Precisely. Anyway what the fuck do you care if she sees other men? You are seeing other women, right? And never send a woman money. Helping her out when you are there and getting pussy is one thing and sending her money when you are not there and not getting pussy is another thing.
You've been sending her money, right?
Chocha Monger
08-19-11, 06:04
This Mexican woman I've been seeing long distance for nine months insists I demonstrate a commitment to her or she will date other men.
I care quite a bit for her, but suddenly the relationship has been converted to a high stakes card game. Actually, not such high stakes. I mean, she's a great travel companion, great in the sack, and seems to value the right things. On the flip side, she's nearing 40, a bit overweight, and hairier in some places than I am.
Now I'm basically being told if I don't commit, she'll be moving on after our vacation coming up. (She's insisted on paying her half of the expenses, by the way.)
Physically, I'm no Brad Pitt, have a head the size of a cinder block, but I'm in good shape and financially sound. I see her really for the beautiful person she is, but suddenly when she's trying to bulldog me into marriage, it pisses me off. Basically, she's saying if she doesn't get what she wants, she'll move on. Not much of a stretch to think that once in the marriage, they'll voice similar options.
I did compromise, though. I went to Facebook and noted that I am currently in a relationship. Now there's an entry with a heart by my name. Maybe that'll save my vacation.Not long ago I faced a similar situation. I stood my ground. The woman said I was forcing her into the arms of another because I wouldn't give in to her marriage demands. She ended up marrying another guy shortly after. Six months later the marriage ended in a pistol duel between the couple. Now she has a baby from the brief marriage that the ex-husband refuses to recognize and support. She asked me to take her back and adopt her child as my own. Oh, and she still wants me to marry her.
Lubriderm69
08-26-11, 17:25
AW tells the cold hard truth to young guys trying to get pussy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N5S9tqEQxU&feature=relatedShe's not telling the truth. The truth is there is no such thing as a nice guy or bad boy. There is only. *are you actively trying to fuck her or not? (that's what they really mean when they say bad boy)
I've been out of touch for awhile, so to update my situation, since I'm going to Cabo with this woman, I decided to humor her and say on Facebook that I'm in a relationship.
Now she didn't request that. It was just my smartass way of dealing with things. Didn't write to say exactly whom I was in a relationship with. She is eager to get married, but my history is that when a woman pushes too hard, I split. Whole free will thing.
I've never really given money to women who've asked for it. Sure, I've bought plane tickets, but never on request.
Back in my mid-20s, I was head over heels in love with a voluptuous black woman who also happened to be quite a head case, an actress with plenty of frequent flier miles at the abortion clinic before me. We split up after going different directions for our careers and failing at the long distance thing. Anyway, I was going through serious pussy withdrawal, and occasionally she'd come visit.
On her last trip to see me, she asked to borrow a thousand bucks. Didn't consider giving her the money at all. Actually, I found it a bit offensive. But I'm sure plenty of men would pony up the cash.
Mr Enternational
09-03-11, 03:33
i've been out of touch for awhile, so to update my situation, since i'm going to cabo with this woman, i decided to humor her and say on facebook that i'm in a relationship. now she didn't request that. it was just my smartass way of dealing with things.you just set yourself back my man. pretty soon you will be the one cooking dinner, washing dishes, and changing [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131). and she will be in your ez chair on sundays watching football.
Come on mannnnn. You are cracking under pressure. I won't even let my main chicks on my facebook. They try to add me as a friend and I just ignore them. When they ask about it I tell them I'm never on that thing. If a woman gives you an ultimatum the best thing to do is bid her adieu and good luck. If she's that much into you then she will be back. But it appears yours would rather have a commitment regardless of who it's from.Man I second that, never let any trick on your face book. I found out that the hard way last year. This crazy Dominicana went and pm all the females in my face book. She called my Aunt fat and ugly, and said to every female that I was her guy and to not fuck with me. To make matters worse she couldn't spell, so instead of putting guy she put gay. That gay is mine. Man I turned my phone on after a meeting and had 32 messages. I thought someone died. When my Aunt asked who is Anny I said"aw shit" and "what did she do". I blocked her ass asap.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/seeking-arrangement-college-students_n_913373.html?page=1
You guys need to read this. Young "college students" looking for sugar daddies to help pay for schooling debt and claiming that what they engage in should not be considered to be "prostitution" and that they should also not be seen as "working girls". Interesting read (and video) for sure!First time commenting in this section, I see some members from other sections as well. At the end of the day, this article isn't that interesting only becomes it manifests what has been going on in other poorer third world countries since like FOREVER. Ask Bango, he know what I'm talking about. Colombianas have been using their twats to pay for their education and support their families for many years now. It can only mean one thing: USA is becoming more of a third world country for women who hopelessly see no way out except to practice the OLDEST PROFESSION since the Roman Empire or before that even. Could she have worked three jobs and taken less units and graduated in a few more years instead of resorting to a game of Semantics?
Any money exchanged no matter what the ultimate outcome can only be called Prostitution if sex is the medium or expectation at the end of the day. In the Colombian General Info section, this point is argued all day long about the differences between Pros and Semi-Pros. Guess what? There is no difference. Once a day, once a year, or once in a lifetime. It's all the same shit. As Legal Tender said in an older post,"There hasn't been a female homo sapien born on this planet that didn't know the value of their vagina". Here is simply another instance of the same UNIVERSAL truth. Peace.
Chocha Monger
09-03-11, 21:44
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/06/florida_man_arrested_after_his.php
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/06/florida_man_arrested_after_his.phpWow, just some of the horrible things AW cause us to do! Poor Dog I hope he got compensated for partaking in this dastardly act!
Mr Enternational
09-04-11, 04:36
Man I second that, never let any trick on your face book. I found out that the hard way last year. This crazy Dominicana went and pm all the females in my face book. She called my Aunt fat and ugly, and said to every female that I was her guy and to not fuck with me. To make matters worse she couldn't spell, so instead of putting guy she put gay. That gay is mine. Man I turned my phone on after a meeting and had 32 messages. I thought someone died. When my Aunt asked who is Anny I said"aw shit" and "what did she do". I blocked her ass asap.Hahahaha. I have the same story. But the Dominicana who did it to me was Isamar. Then come to find out later a girl who I was already fucking was her sister! Talk about small damn world.
Has anyone here used fling dot com in the USA? I've been getting a lot of naughty photos from doables there but it is probably just another scam. Thanks for any replies.Datingsitesreviews. Com / forum / viewtopic. Php? Showtopic=2599.
I believe that most of USA dating sites are either scam or full of low quality women. Unless they are foreign recently arrived women.
The money-hungry * looks like a WWE superstar. Nobody in his right mind or with a bit of objectivity could imagine that an old man like DSK could have gained the upper hand on such a large and dreadful Gorgon, or at least without being himself badly hurted.
Has anyone here used fling dot com in the USA? I've been getting a lot of naughty photos from doables there but it is probably just another scam. Thanks for any replies.
Meanwhile I have been banging some rather large black breasts (H Cups, I swear that's what they said) for $100 a pop, one a former porn star, to keep happy between trips to Asia.I had a years subscription 2 years ago. I added 12-13 ladies to my roster that year from it. 3 stunners. 1 21yo, a handful of 6. 5.8 and a couple of lower marks quiet as kept. All freebies (no money spent except my own gas) except 2.
One stunner (older) kept waiting till I was enroute to call and request I stop by the store and get her a sprite (doesn't cost much but shows her mentality- even though it"s what we both wanted she felted she needed to get something more out of the deal. I did that acouple of times and she started requesting we get breakfast first before the deed and I cut her off completely I saw where she was trying to take things.
The finest one made me a baby daddy for the first time which is why I quit using it. Overall in my opinion good results, subscription more than paid for itself. Also liked online bootycall (less stunners). However afrointroductions and badoo have serious stunners since they have a broader base of locations around the world. I find beautiful women of all nationalities and races wanting to hook up even better a good bit live locally.
Happy punting
Would a member be willing to answer a few questions regarding BP protocol via PM ? I am interested in testing the waters.
I don't know if there is a difference between East / West BP but I live on the East Coast.
Thanks.
Artisttyp
Mr Enternational
10-04-11, 01:34
Meanwhile I have been banging some rather large black breasts (H Cups, I swear that's what they said) for $100 a pop, one a former porn star, to keep happy between trips to Asia.Sounds good to me. A chick I used to mess with in Riverside, CA is 38K @ 6'2", bisexual, with 6 kids to boot.
Chocha Monger
10-04-11, 04:12
Black 48HH breasts? Sounds like Mr. Mammaries titty fucked Madea and actually paid to do it! LOL Please no photos. LOL
Fast Buck Artist
10-12-11, 10:24
Why one woman quit her $70, 000 a year office job to become a High-End Escort girl. The interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzs58aVa_XA
Chocha Monger
10-13-11, 04:33
A boob obsessed geriatric fondles some tits for free then goes to jail.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/12/phillip-winikoff_n_1007273.html?icid=maing-grid7
Angus Magee
10-15-11, 21:00
If any one ever tells you that men discussing "tutes on the internet is disrespectful to women, just show them this.
http://i.imgur.com/drYUf.jpg
Your daily reminder indeed.
AM
Oh Ya Papi
10-16-11, 01:38
So so true.
http://americanwomenreallysuck.com/2011/06/21/a-true-story/
Man I don't really try much any more. I have friends paying 1000, and 1400 respectfully in child support each month. Financial prison. They are single now with this debit. Ouch and white girls pssssss whatever. Only USA has these stupid age discrimination culturally.
And so good but nicer than I would be:
http://www.nomarriage.com/what%e2%80%99s-wrong-with-american-women/
Asians and latinas! 1
Oh Ya Papi
10-16-11, 04:00
http://www.the-niceguy.com/articles/Sexism.html
Check it out!
http://www.the-niceguy.com/articles/Sexism.html
Check it out!Excellent Article, Totally agree
Oh Ya Papi
10-17-11, 02:48
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14131133
Fuck not cool she should Fry!
So so true.
http://americanwomenreallysuck.com/2011/06/21/a-true-story/
Man I don't really try much any more. I have friends paying 1000, and 1400 respectfully in child support each month. Financial prison. They are single now with this debit. Ouch and white girls pssssss whatever. Only USA has these stupid age discrimination culturally.
And so good but nicer than I would be:
http://www.nomarriage.com/what
%e2%80%99s-wrong-with-american-women/
Asians and latinas! 1And Eastern Europeans bro! The ones not corrupted by Western culture that is.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14131133
Fuck not cool she should Fry!No. I believe she is Viet.
On a german radio show a guy sayed that his girlfriend bite a little but off from his cock.
Definitely a painfull thing I guess.
DJ FourMoney
10-31-11, 21:12
I had a years subscription 2 years ago. I added 12-13 ladies to my roster that year from it. 3 stunners. 1 21yo, a handful of 6. 5.8 and a couple of lower marks quiet as kept. All freebies (no money spent except my own gas) except 2.
One stunner (older) kept waiting till I was enroute to call and request I stop by the store and get her a sprite (doesn't cost much but shows her mentality- even though it"s what we both wanted she felted she needed to get something more out of the deal. I did that acouple of times and she started requesting we get breakfast first before the deed and I cut her off completely I saw where she was trying to take things.
The finest one made me a baby daddy for the first time which is why I quit using it. Overall in my opinion good results, subscription more than paid for itself. Also liked online bootycall (less stunners). However afrointroductions and badoo have serious stunners since they have a broader base of locations around the world. I find beautiful women of all nationalities and races wanting to hook up even better a good bit live locally.
Happy puntingCongrats on being a Baby Daddy.
So, baby daddy, are you supporting your child or did you run like a coward?
SavePros321
11-02-11, 12:58
Another reason to keep your dick in your pants or get "snipped" if you've got a ton of money. As one person who commented on this article said: "If she is telling the truth, she has landed a 22-year CASH COW. Not bad for 30 seconds of "laying there." His mom will be so mad! Stupid is as stupid does.":
Woman claims Justin Bieber is Father of her Baby
"Teen idol Justin Bieber allegedly lost his virginity–and impregnated a young woman–during a 30-second tryst in Los Angeles late last year..."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/11/02/la-woman-claims-justin-bieber-is-father-her-baby/#comment#ixzz1cY3l1T7N
So, baby daddy, are you supporting your child or did you run like a coward?I do pay support, nonetheless, I've established a court ordered DNA test for next week. Results due back in six weeks nothing personal just ensuring. As far as cowards, there are plenty out there who willingly plan to procreate and after a breakup from the relationship disappear from the scene. That in my quiet opinion is a coward. I personally don't think ill of someone who has been tricked for a long term check.
When adults get together in an adult friendship or on a fling, online booty call, hit it the quit. Com etc. The responsibility if something happens is both of theres not 1 persons. Especially if they discuss the no wanting children and that this is what it is sexual relationship. (Oh yeah this is going to spark some real arguments) There is a difference between a coward and someone who is a victim of the (this persons going to provide me a better life than I can for myself. In my humble opinion I would like to see the finanacial abortion bill passed, I believe it will slow down the amount of tricks used to create the great amount deadbeat parents.
Chocha Monger
11-04-11, 02:14
I do pay support, nonetheless, I've established a court ordered DNA test for next week. Results due back in six weeks nothing personal just ensuring. As far as cowards, there are plenty out there who willingly plan to procreate and after a breakup from the relationship disappear from the scene. That in my quiet opinion is a coward. I personally don't think ill of someone who has been tricked for a long term check.
When adults get together in an adult friendship or on a fling, online booty call, hit it the quit. Com etc. The responsibility if something happens is both of theres not 1 persons. Especially if they discuss the no wanting children and that this is what it is sexual relationship. (Oh yeah this is going to spark some real arguments) There is a difference between a coward and someone who is a victim of the (this persons going to provide me a better life than I can for myself. In my humble opinion I would like to see the finanacial abortion bill passed, I believe it will slow down the amount of tricks used to create the great amount deadbeat parents.Are there times when a man should run like hell? Some will argue that the child has rights that trump those of the unsuspecting man regardless of trickery on the woman's part. Those that support that view generally believe that men have no reproductive rights beyond abstinence. They underestimate the lengths women go through to deceive and enslave men for decades all in the name of a child. Once the woman gets pregnant it is okay for her to fuck the man over because it's really not about him anymore. It's about the little cute helpless baby. Who would argue against destroying a man's life in the name of saving a baby?
A woman gives an inside view of how women see the matter of getting a man's consent for conception with his sperm with the resulting 18-21 yrs of financial support and sacrifices.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2056875/Liz-Jones-baby-craving-drove-steal-husbands-sperm-ultimate-deception.html
Baby Daddy, glad to hear you are doing the right thing. Chocha Monger, if you don't want to take the risk, use a condom properly or have a vasectomy. Now people will jump in and say condoms are only 90% effective. Well, those studies are based on believing people did what they say they did. I believe the true effectiveness rate to be much higher, especially when combined with a spermicide.
Regarding the article, I am snipped but before that, I was wise to the old dumping out the condom trick so I always took care of them myself. That contributed to my reputation for being a gentleman, but really I am just a very cautious pig.
Are there times when a man should run like hell? Some will argue that the child has rights that trump those of the unsuspecting man regardless of trickery on the woman's part. Those that support that view generally believe that men have no reproductive rights beyond abstinence. They underestimate the lengths women go through to deceive and enslave men for decades all in the name of a child. Once the woman gets pregnant it is okay for her to fuck the man over because it's really not about him anymore. It's about the little cute helpless baby. Who would argue against destroying a man's life in the name of saving a baby?
A woman gives an inside view of how women see the matter of getting a man's consent for conception with his sperm with the resulting 18-21 yrs of financial support and sacrifices.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2056875/Liz-Jones-baby-craving-drove-steal-husbands-sperm-ultimate-deception.htmlGood article, still only one view out of many for child bearing deceptions. People throwing around heartstring pulling situations and negative terms such as coward, deadbeats etc. don't affect me as it does most men because I've gone thru something they personally have'nt.
I was tricked by my ex-wife many years ago (even admittedly to me by her) with the baby then marriage thing. She was spitting out the pill I was putting in her mouth daily, I found them in a tissue in her purse. Needless to say years later our marriage due to baby didn't workout, I continually supported my daughter (step) and our blood child came to live with me a couple of years down the road.
To garner that deal I had to agree to pay ALL of her bills for 1 year while she saved her money for a better life.
During the next 5 years with no outside child support payments coming in I came to find that a child needs chiefly what you should already have for yourself. A roof, running water, electricity, transportation, and food.
Whats left out of that equation is clothing, daycare if it's a baby and extra curricular activities. Basically I realized it did not cost me too much more than I was already spending on myself to raise a child. My child is currently away at college on a full academic scholarship. Goes to show there is nothing terribly bad about our public education system with the help of parents.
My ex wife has been and still is a excellent mother to our child regardless of her financial status. And still a close friend of mine. As with many other things in the world people tend to misrepresent conditions because they need you to believe in giving more money to the situation rather than trying to jump in and work with it. Why do you all think that the majority of women do not turn kids over to their fathers when they claim too costly. They want a better lifestyle than they can afford for themselves without having to work for it.
Many men have got to stop watching television drinking the koolaid of Hard working, honest and used women while every man is potrayed as either monsters or gay.
As far as condoms its the smart thing to do.
But lets stop Bsing ourselves, we know that condoms create limp di@k syndrom the majority of the time used which means no sex for you. And when you do use them lack of feeling creates even more pressure to start the highlight reel in your head in order to keep an erection. Women have 20 + contraceptive devices in every variety or form possible. You have 2. Condom (lack of enjoyment) or vasectomy (no children ever in the future). Not pointing fingers but damn sometimes you have to open your eyes and recognize the game that being played on you.
another reason to keep your dick in your pants or get "snipped" if you've got a ton of money. as one person who commented on this article said: "if she is telling the truth, she has landed a 22-year cash cow. not bad for 30 seconds of "laying there." his mom will be so mad! stupid is as stupid does.":
woman claims justin bieber is father of her baby
"teen idol justin bieber allegedly lost his virginity–and impregnated a young woman–during a 30-second tryst in los angeles late last year."
read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/11/02/la-woman-claims-justin-bieber-is-father-her-baby/#comment#ixzz1cy3l1t7nwhats even worst is the threat of statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) nor lifelong public label of child predator means nothing to her compared to her future payoff. quite calculating. how many men grown men would go to a tabloid and announce i've just impregnated a famous child star? can we say 2 diffrent sets of laws.
You make some good points. Note that I did not assume you ran away, but rather asked. Now, one thing that is no longer the case (and this is important) is that a vasectomy means "no children, ever." There are (at least) two options. You can freeze your sperm, or you can have a reversible vasectomy, which is basically a valve that can be turned on and off in the doctor's office. Also, there are the three-month birth control shots. She can't spit those out. I guess she could bribe the doctor or pharmacist to give her a placebo, but at least where I live, you can just take her to any pharmacy and tell her to bend over and it's hard to think she could arrange in advance to circumvent that.
despite the statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) she commited, i have not heard even once, anywhere the indignation and disgust of child predators in action. if the roles were reversed i would have liked to know how things would have been portrayed. the 20 year old is clearly the adult and should know better. i hope they nail her with the "fruit from a poisoned tree" doctrine and don't allow her to profit from her crime. doubt it, but i hope his lawyer can really argue well on his behalf and prevent this **** from cashing in on her crime.
whats even worst is the threat of statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) nor lifelong public label of child predator means nothing to her compared to her future payoff. quite calculating. how many men grown men would go to a tabloid and announce i've just impregnated a famous child star? can we say 2 diffrent sets of laws.
she's probably lying anyway. she probably thinks she can get some hush money. notice how she says "he must be the father because she can't recall any other sex around that time" or some such shit. i am paraphrasing here. but it's interesting how the paradigm has changed. you say she is a ****. i got involved in a sexual relationship with a 27 year old woman when i was barely 15. did she seduce me? probably, but i was totally up for it. this was the mid 70s and the prevailing opinion was that it was my fault because she was married. i certainly did not feel "raped." she taught me what i needed to know.
i would say, looking back, that it could be said she "ruined my life" but in my particular case, my life was so fucked at that point that the "negative" aspects such as: i could never go back to my home town, her husband wanted to hunt me down and kill me, and i did not speak to anyone in my family for six more years, paled in comparison to the positive aspects. i did not go back to my dysfunctional family and i learned to fend for myself. i developed good sexual skills and a basic understanding of the positive and negative aspects of women, and i never looked back.
i wasn't a virgin; she was my third sexual experience. i doubt very seriously that bieber is / was a virgin and if he is / was he is not taking advantage of his fame. what is the point of being a famous musician if you don't get any pussy out of the deal? it's not like he was some innocent kid in an isolated environment. more like a greedy be! tch than a ****, to my way of thinking. let's see how it all plays out. why would she wait until she gave birth to go after him?
whats even worst is the threat of statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) nor lifelong public label of child predator means nothing to her compared to her future payoff. quite calculating. how many men grown men would go to a tabloid and announce i've just impregnated a famous child star? can we say 2 diffrent sets of laws.good points. but there is a different outlook when the woman is the predator. with that being said, i'm sure we all had teachers that we would hope would fuck us. personally i don't see the teacher as being the predator. my sick mentality says, that if i found out my sons teacher was fucking him after class, i would negotiate a deal where i could get a tuesday piece of the action. but i would not tolerate a daughter fucking her teacher. honestly we look at men getting forbidden ass as opportunistic, but vise versa its predatory. go figure?
Good points. But there is a different outlook when the woman is the predator. With that being said, I'm sure we all had teachers that we would hope would fuck us. Personally I don't see the teacher as being the predator. My sick mentality says, that if I found out my sons teacher was fucking him after class, I would negotiate a deal where I could get a Tuesday piece of the action. But I would not tolerate a daughter fucking her teacher. Honestly we look at men getting forbidden ass as opportunistic, but vise versa its predatory. Go figure?Hey Gogo, if you're sick then I need to be hospitalized. I truly would be looking for my opportunity as well.
I think the underlying issue with our daughters sleeping with older men truly fall on the support factor for her and potentially their baby. Parents believes that a young female virgin is a good thing and for her to lose that she should be wedded to a man that will support and treat her kindly. Even we as grown men we treat virgin adult women differently, typically with much more kindness than we show other people. Truth is no father wants her in his home with her baby. They want her in the home of the schlep who introduced her to sex, married and being treated kindly. Then its more acceptable.
Its true we are viewed as predators, but ask yourself the obvious those who have sisters- Why is it girls get to sit in the company of women from the time they can talk listening to the schemes and scams while boys are dismissed by dads when men get together? Whos really the predator?
she's probably lying anyway. she probably thinks she can get some hush money. notice how she says "he must be the father because she can't recall any other sex around that time" or some such shit. i am paraphrasing here. but it's interesting how the paradigm has changed. you say she is a ****. i got involved in a sexual relationship with a 27 year old woman when i was barely 15. did she seduce me? probably, but i was totally up for it. this was the mid 70s and the prevailing opinion was that it was my fault because she was married. i certainly did not feel "raped." she taught me what i needed to know.
i would say, looking back, that it could be said she "ruined my life" but in my particular case, my life was so fucked at that point that the "negative" aspects such as: i could never go back to my home town, her husband wanted to hunt me down and kill me, and i did not speak to anyone in my family for six more years, paled in comparison to the positive aspects. i did not go back to my dysfunctional family and i learned to fend for myself. i developed good sexual skills and a basic understanding of the positive and negative aspects of women, and i never looked back.
i wasn't a virgin; she was my third sexual experience. i doubt very seriously that bieber is / was a virgin and if he is / was he is not taking advantage of his fame. what is the point of being a famous musician if you don't get any pussy out of the deal? it's not like he was some innocent kid in an isolated environment. more like a greedy be! tch than a ****, to my way of thinking. let's see how it all plays out. why would she wait until she gave birth to go after him?sad part is it doesn't matter if she's lying or not she's still coming out on top. i bet she was paid more than $25k by the tabloid for that story already.
Mr Enternational
11-04-11, 17:08
But lets stop Bsing ourselves, we know that condoms create limp di@k syndrom the majority of the time used which means no sex for you. And when you do use them lack of feeling creates even more pressure to start the highlight reel in your head in order to keep an erection. Women have 20 + contraceptive devices in every variety or form possible. You have 2. Condom (lack of enjoyment) or vasectomy (no children ever in the future). Not pointing fingers but damn sometimes you have to open your eyes and recognize the game that being played on you.They need to invent a BCP for us.
http://gma.yahoo.com/video/celebs-26594247/justin-bieber-will-take-paternity-test-27181092.html#crsl=%252fvideo%252fcelebs-26594247%252fwill-and-kate-s-move-feed-baby-rumors-27181089. html.
first aledged father was her boyfriend, that didnt pan out to well. now bieber raped her. lol
"i don't recall having sex with anyone else around that time." the accuser.
my eyebrows are raised to the top of my head. (singing) for the love of money, people would statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) a superstarr. yea
Bango Cheito
11-09-11, 18:23
They need to invent a BCP for us.Condoms. I guess depends on the brand. I've never had a problem with them. I was a teenager in the mid to late 80s when AIDS went all over the globe and I watched classmates die from that shit so I learned early on, wrapping it up is the way to go!
Westy:
You made some wonderful points, the most poignant being that American women did not stop upon achieving equality with men but continued beyond that point. Now if one side goes beyond being equal then that is not equality by definition but rather a new status quo. Just as Hitler had convinced Neville Chamberlain that he had no greater ambitions beyond occupation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia, so American women had convinced their men that they sought nothing more than economic and social parity. American men bought into the equality deal. Women entered the workforce, politics and many other areas of American society previously considered the domain of men. However, after being given access these women began to use their gender in combination with laws meant to protect them from discrimination in the workplace to eliminate the males who they could not compete with on an equal footing. Women now had jobs and advanced degrees but they were still demanding and receiving preferential treatment in divorce courts. Alimony, child support and custody were favorable to women by default. Men were still picking up the check at restaurants and paying the tab at bars. Women scorned men who expected them to bear part of the expense of dating. They slapped men in the face and threw drinks on them, all acts of assault and battery, while filing ex parte domestic violence restraining orders to have boyfriends and husbands removed from the home. Soon virtually every man knew someone who got put through the works by a woman who wasn't paying on a level field. Men looked at the rampaging females with alarm. Some started taking action to protect their careers and assets. They realized that women don't want to be equal to men. They want to dominate men while being catered to as they have been in the past. Not long ago I listened in dismay as a little girl said, 'Boys are always supposed to pay. '
American women believe that men should always pay and men generally do. Why is that? As a man do you consider your time and companionship any less valuable than that of a woman? If American women do not need a man why are men paying? Why are American women always Pushing for marriage?You hit nails on the head bro. But I can't help but play the and try to be more objective, and give thought to the fact that we do the p4p in our monger stations around the world. If we are going to use the argument that we are disgusted because AW don't pay / reciprocate, and claim our company is just as good as the womans, why arent we using that argument with foreign women too? Our time and companionship with foreign women is just as valuable as theirs? But yet we pay, and don't expect them to pay. Sure we can say, because the woman is giving us sex in return. But still we are paying for their time and companionship, even though we are claiming with AW our time and companionship is just as valuable. See the double standard we put ourselves in?
I don't think we should be kidding ourselves. If these AW were offering sex on the dates we initiated, and were paying for dinner and drinks, we wouldn't be saying jack about our time and companionship being as valuable. We would pay and be happy. And this whole thing of being taken advantage of by AW would be a non issue. We don't care that much about paying, we have a problem not getting what we expect to get for our efforts. And AW know all too well that we arent paying simply just to get to know them better. Were paying because we want pussy plain and simple. The bottom line is, the pussy game in america is full of unwritten and unspoken expectations. We are taking a chance with AW and losing most of the time in the process. But where we monger the terms and expectations are usually a lot clearer and the reciprocation more likely (not necessarily good quality or performance) without any worries of looking like a nasty bastard for wanting sex.
CherchezFemme
12-24-11, 21:46
You've been Tebowed! Merry Christmas and happy holidays everyone
Chocha Monger
12-24-11, 22:51
you hit nails on the head bro. but i can't help but play the and try to be more objective, and give thought to the fact that we do the p4p in our monger stations around the world. if we are going to use the argument that we are disgusted because aw don't pay / reciprocate, and claim our company is just as good as the womans, why arent we using that argument with foreign women too? our time and companionship with foreign women is just as valuable as theirs? but yet we pay, and don't expect them to pay. sure we can say, because the woman is giving us sex in return. but still we are paying for their time and companionship, even though we are claiming with aw our time and companionship is just as valuable. see the double standard we put ourselves in?
i don't think we should be kidding ourselves. if these aw were offering sex on the dates we initiated, and were paying for dinner and drinks, we wouldn't be saying jack about our time and companionship being as valuable. we would pay and be happy. and this whole thing of being taken advantage of by aw would be a non issue. we don't care that much about paying, we have a problem not getting what we expect to get for our efforts. and aw know all too well that we arent paying simply just to get to know them better. were paying because we want pussy plain and simple. the bottom line is, the pussy game in america is full of unwritten and unspoken expectations. we are taking a chance with aw and losing most of the time in the process. but where we monger the terms and expectations are usually a lot clearer and the reciprocation more likely (not necessarily good quality or performance) without any worries of looking like a nasty bastard for wanting sex.i don't disagree that there would probably be a lot less grumbling about being financially exploited if aw gave sexual access in exchange on a consistent basis. however, even in cases where sexual favors are granted to males in return for resources and time, the trade is usually disproportionately in the favor of the female. even monkeys trade food in return for sex so human females may be wired to expect something other than a fair exchange of time and companionship for sex. the difference between foreign and american women lies primarily in the cost of the relationship to the man and manner in which he is treated in that relationship.
one cannot ignore the fact that american women have managed to put the laws and courts in their favor by default on matters of reproduction, child custody, alimony, property division and child support. even with modern forensic techniques men will face an uphill battle proving innocence in cases of allegations of assault, sexual harassment and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). in fact, even in cases where men are exonerated the stain of having been accused never goes away.
in fairness, foreign women are not a panacea for the state of gender inequality in the us. many men have been cheated out of houses, condos, cars, money and land by foreign wives or girlfriends. yet, a man taking some basic precautions to protect his wealth will generally find it easier to have a relationship with women outside of the west. some foreign women can just as materialistic as american women but they usually don't expect the man to wait on them in addition to bearing the financial burden.
overall, men will find life a lot simpler without the sacrifices involved in living with or being legally tied to a woman no matter what happens to be her culture or nationality. trying to find a stable match of personality, attitudes towards money, and life goals between a man and a woman is no easy business.
Mr Enternational
12-24-11, 22:51
You hit nails on the head bro. But I can't help but play the and try to be more objective, and give thought to the fact that we do the p4p in our monger stations around the world. If we are going to use the argument that we are disgusted because AW don't pay / reciprocate, and claim our company is just as good as the womans, why arent we using that argument with foreign women too? Our time and companionship with foreign women is just as valuable as theirs? But yet we pay, and don't expect them to pay. Sure we can say, because the woman is giving us sex in return. But still we are paying for their time and companionship, even though we are claiming with AW our time and companionship is just as valuable. See the double standard we put ourselves in?Easy answer. For me it is the ability and the willingness to pay. AWs are able to pay but refuse because to them the man is supposed to do blah blah blah. Many of the foreign women you speak of are not able to pay (although sometimes they do when or what they can) , but if they were then they would. And that is what makes all the difference in the world. Just like when you go to court you can be charged with murder, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter. Hell, somebody is still dead in either case, but it all has to do with intent. And AWs don't INTEND to pay for shit as long as there is a man around!
*P. S. Sometimes I do make foreign women pay as well if I know they are able.
This is a conversation I was just having with a Brazilian woman 2 seconds ago:
12/24/2011 4:37:21 PM dafni: now i want one second change (supposed to be "a second chance")
12/24/2011 4:37:40 PM mrenternational x_x_x: i do not think i will come back here anyway. too expensive
12/24/2011 4:37:51 PM dafni: wow well i can pay ur cost
12/24/2011 4:38:10 PM mrenternational x_x_x: we will see. beijo. i have to go take shower now
Bango Cheito
12-25-11, 03:40
Easy answer. For me it is the ability and the willingness to pay. AWs are able to pay but refuse because to them the man is supposed to do blah blah blah. Many of the foreign women you speak of are not able to pay (although sometimes they do when or what they can) , but if they were then they would. And that is what makes all the difference in the world. Just like when you go to court you can be charged with murder, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter. Hell, somebody is still dead in either case, but it all has to do with intent. And AWs don't INTEND to pay for shit as long as there is a man around!
*P. S. Sometimes I do make foreign women pay as well if I know they are able.
This is a conversation I was just having with a Brazilian woman 2 seconds ago:
12/24/2011 4:37:21 PM dafni: now I want one second change (supposed to be "a second chance")
12/24/2011 4:37:40 PM mrenternational x_x_x: I do not think I will come back here anyway. Too expensive
12/24/2011 4:37:51 PM dafni: wow well I can pay your cost
12/24/2011 4:38:10 PM mrenternational x_x_x: we will see. Beijo. I have to go take shower nowI just think that in this day and age, the woman should pay as well. One thing is to buy sex for money in a straight transaction, another entirely is to have to pay for a non-pro. Pros can charge because they are real good at it. Normal women in my book just have to get it for free. I think that's a big part of the problem is that guys are stupid enough to pay for shit in a lame attempt to get into a girl's pants. Save your money and just go to the nearest incall! OR if you live in a sexually repressed nation get on a plane!
I don't think this woman ever brought Phil Ivey a drink while he earned his place in the Poker World. I don't see any woman taking an NBA player on, taking a hit during a football game, take a punch during a boxing match; yet, there is a laundry list of former athletes broke as hell because of some woman taking them to the cleaners in our courts. There is just way too much to lose with an AW and our courts are making it legal. For women, its like taking candy from a baby.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/ex-wife-of-poker-star-ivey-unhappy-with-divorce-settlement-136458598.html
DJ FourMoney
01-03-12, 00:04
I don't think this woman ever brought Phil Ivey a drink while he earned his place in the Poker World. I don't see any woman taking an NBA player on, taking a hit during a football game, take a punch during a boxing match; yet, there is a laundry list of former athletes broke as hell because of some woman taking them to the cleaners in our courts. There is just way too much to lose with an AW and our courts are making it legal. For women, its like taking candy from a baby.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/ex-wife-of-poker-star-ivey-unhappy-with-divorce-settlement-136458598.htmlAs the saying goes on ManWomanMyth. "What mine is mine and what's yours is MINE."
DJ FourMoney
01-03-12, 00:21
I just think that in this day and age, the woman should pay as well. One thing is to buy sex for money in a straight transaction, another entirely is to have to pay for a non-pro. Pros can charge because they are real good at it. Normal women in my book just have to get it for free. I think that's a big part of the problem is that guys are stupid enough to pay for shit in a lame attempt to get into a girl's pants. Save your money and just go to the nearest incall! OR if you live in a sexually repressed nation get on a plane!100% as Marc Rudov has said in America (or any country with a mature economy) mature parties show mutual interest and women should also offer to pay. If you (a man) thinks a way to woman's p*ssy is to open your wallet, you're an idiot. Who's the bigger horndog, women or men? I agree with Marc and I would argue look at how much sexual advice is constantly given to women and how many different types of massage devices are sold. Men buy porn and magazines and beat off, women imagine a lagoon with a waterfall in Hawaii. A friend of mine disappeared one weekend and that's what happen. They found a secluded lagoon in Hawaii, she took a picture of him under the waterfall and then fu*ked his brains out. She paid (flight for two from LAX to Maui).
If a woman your interested in can't afford to pay, stop dating broke-ass women! A woman dissed me because I had payed all the way up to dinner for all of us (her and her two sons) at a local restaurant, the only time she paid for ANYTHING that weekend. She complained how dare I make a single mother of two boys pay for dinner. She paid, I left later that evening, I got no pussy out of it and then she shacked up with some moron from North Carolina who already has a girlfriend, got her pregnant and then shipped his butt by bus back to NC after he spend the previous 6 months on her couch playing her son's PS3.
Some of these women deserve what happens to them.
I don't think this woman ever brought Phil Ivey a drink while he earned his place in the Poker World. I don't see any woman taking an NBA player on, taking a hit during a football game, take a punch during a boxing match; yet, there is a laundry list of former athletes broke as hell because of some woman taking them to the cleaners in our courts. There is just way too much to lose with an AW and our courts are making it legal. For women, its like taking candy from a baby.
http://www.lvrj.com/news/ex-wife-of-poker-star-ivey-unhappy-with-divorce-settlement-136458598.htmlWow! Helluva article. Greed is a motherf-ker. High dollar award alimonies are outrageous, the majority of the recipients find themselves flat broke quickly due to 1) overspending with everything including on friends and family (showing off. I meant celebrating the courts fair descion) 2) Never have earned any any real money in the past they didn't realize it was not an endless stream of income like from an earning spouse.
Ex mel Gibsons wife; Soon to be New Example Tiger Woods Wife who recently purchased a 12 million dollar home and completely demolished it. She was a nanny before marriage now she has someone elses money to burn.
And I have to say this especially to the men. Read the comments beneath the articles and count the number of chumps (american men) that make the comments " that the men deserve to lose what they worked for beacause of divorce? Or even more they deserve to be taken back to court to satisfy an ex's poor judgement in spending and their greed?" Honestly it sickens me to watch them brainwashed by america's ridicules culture.
This is going to make some people (mostly frustrated chumps) mad but here it goes.
1. Any person big or small, male or female that bullies or puts their hands on someone with out warrant deserves to have their ass kicked regardless of size or gender.
Some people who think that they are Billy Badass have the fortune of one day meeting Billy Badass (without no one to protect them after theyve started the fight) and with no one elses guidance come to the realization that they are better at math or reading as opposed to provoking others. A lesson many women today are saved from learning.
2. Every child at birth needs to have a mandatory non invasive dna test, these children deserve to know who their real parents are. For ex. Heriditary health issues, extended familial knowledge and support as well as guidance and finacial support.
3. Not only should a woman have the right to her body with the purpose of choosing to having a child, giving a child up for adoption or aborting a fetus; But the man should have a right to choose his life not leaving it in the hands of the pregnant mother whom he may not have wanted to co parent with. Support the financial abortion movement.
4. In a divorce procceeding you should leave with whatever percentage you put into it. Child support will cover the children.
5. Child custody cases. Should allow the children to live 1 year at a time with the opposite parent if they or one opts to live within 50 miles of the other and the children attend the same school regardless as well as get rid of the support agreement in this case. And if one parent opts not to, fine let them recieve it and then pay the same amount to the opposite parent on their year. That would put a stop to false needs of more support.
6. Quit paying for everything, women like and want sex more than men, (the dick has value too, we all travel the world and know that women are freakier than men). Paying her to leave without drama or future drama is OK.
Gentleman Travel
01-06-12, 18:03
Easy answer. For me it is the ability and the willingness to pay. AWs are able to pay but refuse because to them the man is supposed to do blah blah blah. Many of the foreign women you speak of are not able to pay (although sometimes they do when or what they can) , but if they were then they would. And that is what makes all the difference in the world. Just like when you go to court you can be charged with murder, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter. Hell, somebody is still dead in either case, but it all has to do with intent. And AWs don't INTEND to pay for shit as long as there is a man around!
*P. S. Sometimes I do make foreign women pay as well if I know they are able.I think you guys who are whining that AW and others ought to pay when you are dating them, or that foreign women should, are barking up the wrong tree.
The problem isn't that the man has to pay, or even that he has to pay with no guarantee of sex at the end.
The problem is that he has to pay and get a lecture on women's equality and stereotyping at the same time.
It is the hypocrisy of AW. That there are no "gender roles" in today's society. At the same time as expecting to be supported, whether on dates or in marriage or after divorce, that is the problem.
The old model of Man as Provider (of financial / material goods and security) and Woman as Provider of Home Comforts (cooking, kids, sex) still operates in many countries and is a good model for many of us.
When you date a woman in Eastern Europe she expects you to pay for dinner (as well as take the lead) but she knows that she is expected to be beautiful and lady-like and (maybe / eventually) provide sex.
And it usually works out that way. No matter how well educated she is or income level, she will do her part if you do yours. Sure sometimes they will offer to pay, or will pay for the small things, but that is more to demonstrate that they are not a total leech, rather than trying to balance things out.
If you want to be the dominant person in a relationship, you need to assert yourself and paying is the easiest way to do it.
You just have to make sure that your date is keeping up her half of the bargain. Which is not guaranteed sex, even in EE. But playing up the feminine role, with all its fixings.
If she shows up in track pants and messy hair and complains about the way she is treated by men, then abandon ship.
But frankly, I see much more of the reverse. I woman with a good job, who is probably paying her way, dressed to the nines, out with a guy wearing a t-shirt and baseball cap.
And he is probably on this web-site complaining about AW!
Tiger Woods' ex-wife bulldozes $12 million home.
There are times when divorce forces people to do strange things. Burn sheets. Throw out clothes. Toss rings into the ocean. But when you get $100 million in your divorce, you can trump just about anything and that's what happened with Tiger Woods' ex-wife when she bought a $12 million home and bulldozed the whole thing.Http://goo.gl/rKzgK
Bango Cheito
01-09-12, 10:48
IN my case I'm not old fashioned at all. I don't WANT a traditional woman. I can hire a maid cheaply, I don't need my SO to be cleaning and cooking for me. I want a life partner, not a domestic servant! And I want the ***** to pay her fucking way, pure and simple, not support MY ass either, just pull her weight financially. True equality.
I think you guys who are whining that AW and others ought to pay when you are dating them, or that foreign women should, are barking up the wrong tree.
The problem isn't that the man has to pay, or even that he has to pay with no guarantee of sex at the end.
The problem is that he has to pay and get a lecture on women's equality and stereotyping at the same time.
It is the hypocrisy of AW. That there are no "gender roles" in today's society. At the same time as expecting to be supported, whether on dates or in marriage or after divorce, that is the problem.
The old model of Man as Provider (of financial / material goods and security) and Woman as Provider of Home Comforts (cooking, kids, sex) still operates in many countries and is a good model for many of us.
When you date a woman in Eastern Europe she expects you to pay for dinner (as well as take the lead) but she knows that she is expected to be beautiful and lady-like and (maybe / eventually) provide sex.
And it usually works out that way. No matter how well educated she is or income level, she will do her part if you do yours. Sure sometimes they will offer to pay, or will pay for the small things, but that is more to demonstrate that they are not a total leech, rather than trying to balance things out.
If you want to be the dominant person in a relationship, you need to assert yourself and paying is the easiest way to do it.
You just have to make sure that your date is keeping up her half of the bargain. Which is not guaranteed sex, even in EE. But playing up the feminine role, with all its fixings.
If she shows up in track pants and messy hair and complains about the way she is treated by men, then abandon ship.
But frankly, I see much more of the reverse. I woman with a good job, who is probably paying her way, dressed to the nines, out with a guy wearing a t-shirt and baseball cap.
And he is probably on this web-site complaining about AW!
SavePros321
01-10-12, 00:48
Shit, making £20million in 14 months is an amazing feat! But I can hear AW laughing and saying "that's nothing Russell; I can do far better than that in 6-12 months!"
It's going to cost you, Katy: Russell Brand stands to make £20million from his divorce from pop star wife Perry
By GEORGINA LITTLEJOHN
Last updated at 10:53 AM on 2nd January 2012
"Russell Brand is set to make up to £20million from his divorce from wife Katy Perry, according to reports. The comedian is in line for the huge lump sum in a 50/50 split of the couple's earnings even after just 14 months of marriage. Brand. 36, and Perry. 27, didn't sign a pre-nuptial agreement when they married in October 2010 so under Californian law, he could be entitled to half of her fortune...":
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2080925/Katy-Perry-divorce-Russell-Brand-stands-make-20m-split-pop-star-wife.html#ixzz1j0YSkqWO
Manizales911
01-10-12, 01:08
Shit, making £20million in 14 months is an amazing feat! But I can hear AW laughing and saying "that's nothing Russell; I can do far better than that in 6-12 months!"
It's going to cost you, Katy: Russell Brand stands to make £20million from his divorce from pop star wife Perry
By GEORGINA LITTLEJOHN.
Last updated at 10:53 AM on 2nd January 2012.
"Russell Brand is set to make up to £20million from his divorce from wife Katy Perry, according to reports. The comedian is in line for the huge lump sum in a 50/50 split of the couple's earnings even after just 14 months of marriage. Brand. 36, and Perry. 27, didn't sign a pre-nuptial agreement when they married in October 2010 so under Californian law, he could be entitled to half of her fortune.":
Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2080925/Katy-Perry-divorce-Russell-Brand-stands-make-20m-split-pop-star-wife.html#ixzz1j0YSkqWOThat just goes to show you how fucked up the divorce laws are. I got divorced, had a prenup, the judge wiped his ass with it and she still took half my shit. I wouldn't get married again for anything. FFFF, find 'them, feel 'them, fuck 'them and forget 'them.
SavePros321
01-10-12, 02:41
I got divorced, had a prenup, the judge wiped his ass with it and she still took half my shit. I wouldn't get married again for anything.I almost spit all of my drink at the screen laughing at that comment, LOL! I'm not laughing at your situation; just the way in which you stated it.
SavePros321
01-20-12, 10:19
Kobe Bryant Wife Scores Big In Divorce
TMZ.com
"Kobe Bryant's wife Vanessa is the big winner in their divorce property settlement, TMZ has learned.
Sources connected to the couple and with direct knowledge of the situation tell TMZ the property settlement agreement is signed, sealed and delivered -- a done deal.
Vanessa is walking away with $75 million, which we're told represents close to half of their total assets, estimated at around $150 million.
TMZ previously reported several transfers of property earlier this year between Kobe and Vanessa. * It turns out, based on the property settlement, Vanessa scored a clean sweep, snagging ALL THREE of the former couple's mansions in the Newport Beach area.
Vanessa gets the estate the couple was living in, the estate her mom is living in, and she gets the new estate that had been under construction for 2 years and was just completed. * We were told Kobe was moving into the new estate, but that's not true. * It's Vanessa's crib, lock stock and barrel.
Vanessa just scored 3. Where it counts."
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/20/kobe-vanessa-bryant-divorce-settlement/#.Txku-aVSR-U
Kobe Bryant Wife Scores Big In Divorce
TMZ. Com.
"Kobe Bryant's wife Vanessa is the big winner in their divorce property settlement, TMZ has learned.
Sources connected to the couple and with direct knowledge of the situation tell TMZ the property settlement agreement is signed, sealed and delivered. A done deal.
Vanessa is walking away with $75 million, which we're told represents close to half of their total assets, estimated at around $150 million.
TMZ previously reported several transfers of property earlier this year between Kobe and Vanessa. * It turns out, based on the property settlement, Vanessa scored a clean sweep, snagging ALL THREE of the former couple's mansions in the Newport Beach area.
Vanessa gets the estate the couple was living in, the estate her mom is living in, and she gets the new estate that had been under construction for 2 years and was just completed. * We were told Kobe was moving into the new estate, but that's not true. * It's Vanessa's crib, lock stock and barrel.
Vanessa just scored 3. Where it counts."
http://www.tmz.com/2012/01/20/kobe-vanessa-bryant-divorce-settlement/#.Txku-aVSR-UI know it's got to hurt like hell getting shafted like that in the court system. And here we are in forums like this discussing overpaying chicas for few measly dollars. I guess it's really about the principle. Because if I bought some chica a laptop or was sending her money only to find out I was being scammed, I'd be pissed off just as much as Kobe might or should be over the outcome of his divorce.
Chocha Monger
01-21-12, 05:41
You can now get laid in the USA for a 6-piece box of McNuggets. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/sex-for-mcnuggets_n_1212891.html
TheStrongest
01-23-12, 19:28
You can now get laid in the USA for a 6-piece box of McNuggets.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/sex-for-mcnuggets_n_1212891.htmlSuper Value Menu pussy
Chocha Monger
02-04-12, 08:09
I just think that in this day and age, the woman should pay as well.They do pay for it too but not in their home countries. They also keep a lot quieter about it than guys who monger. Lots of women go to Bali to spare a horse and ride a kuta cowboy. Some of them are paying for it with the alimony check from some poor sucker back home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq5Si3oSdkg
TheStrongest
02-04-12, 13:48
Of course there are women who pay for sex these days, it's all part of that empowerment shit. More power to 'them.
Bango Cheito
02-05-12, 21:06
They do pay for it too but not in their home countries. They also keep a lot quieter about it than guys who monger. Lots of women go to Bali to spare a horse and ride a kuta cowboy. Some of them are paying for it with the alimony check from some poor sucker back home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq5Si3oSdkgI was referring to in non-pro situations. I expect women I date to contribute financially. P4P is different, one pays for immediate sexual gratification and expects a certain level of professionalism on the part of the pro.
TheStrongest
02-06-12, 11:44
Isn't that a big part of the appeal of P4P?
Everything is clear, no games.
American women want to walk some sort of rediculous line where they expect to be taken care of but at the same time be equal. I'm not saying mongering is a reversion to old fashioned gender roles but there's no mistaking the nature of the things (hopefully).
Although an ISG member for years, I only post when I believe I have something new to contribute.
Back in July. 2011, Catherine Kieu cut off her husband's dick, and ground it up in a garbage disposal.
This was briefly discussed in this thread, circa July 17, 2011.
Every member of ISG should Google Kieu CBS "The Talk".
The segments in question aired July 15th. 2011 and a follow up,"apology" segment on July 20th.
The host's, guest's, and audience's conduct, (I believe the audience is 100% female) in both segments are highly enlightening.
Since this is a "live" show, it shows AWs in their true light.
Also instructive is the lack of "blow back" CBS and the show's host got for this garbage.
I'm going to use these clips an educational tool for men who are still unable or unwilling to see AWs for what the really are.
NOTE:I'm technologically challenged.
Perhaps Jackson or a more tech savvy member could provide a direct link to the segments mentioned above.
How is this even possible? Just blows my mind.
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/first-week-in-season-1-cut-off-from-the-world.html#mkcpgn=snag1
This is why there is a 0. 0% chance of ever even asking an AW to join me for a glass of water. They are sinister and evil on a level I have experienced personally and their methodology for relationships is warped beyond comprehension. I tried the the marriage game once. I learned a valuable lesson then: That the US Domestic Court System is completely biased against men. The trap is the marriage certificate. Even with a legally signed and certified pre-nuptial agreement, DNA evidence, video and witnesses corraborating infidelity from your spouse, you can't win. Sorry for my rant, here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81D9W4DD8Kg. May all the ladies who laughed at the guy and had fun have a scorching case of a venereal desease!
Although an ISG member for years, I only post when I believe I have something new to contribute.
Back in July. 2011, Catherine Kieu cut off her husband's dick, and ground it up in a garbage disposal.
This was briefly discussed in this thread, circa July 17, 2011.
Every member of ISG should Google Kieu CBS "The Talk".
The segments in question aired July 15th. 2011 and a follow up,"apology" segment on July 20th.
The host's, guest's, and audience's conduct, (I believe the audience is 100% female) in both segments are highly enlightening.
Since this is a "live" show, it shows AWs in their true light.
Also instructive is the lack of "blow back" CBS and the show's host got for this garbage.
I'm going to use these clips an educational tool for men who are still unable or unwilling to see AWs for what the really are.
NOTE:I'm technologically challenged.
Perhaps Jackson or a more tech savvy member could provide a direct link to the segments mentioned above.
DJ FourMoney
02-07-12, 08:59
Although an ISG member for years, I only post when I believe I have something new to contribute.
Back in July. 2011, Catherine Kieu cut off her husband's dick, and ground it up in a garbage disposal.
This was briefly discussed in this thread, circa July 17, 2011.
Every member of ISG should Google Kieu CBS "The Talk".
The segments in question aired July 15th. 2011 and a follow up,"apology" segment on July 20th.
The host's, guest's, and audience's conduct, (I believe the audience is 100% female) in both segments are highly enlightening.
Since this is a "live" show, it shows AWs in their true light.
Also instructive is the lack of "blow back" CBS and the show's host got for this garbage.
I'm going to use these clips an educational tool for men who are still unable or unwilling to see AWs for what the really are.
NOTE:I'm technologically challenged.
Perhaps Jackson or a more tech savvy member could provide a direct link to the segments mentioned above.I have completely (well not completely, about 95%) given up on AW locally or elsewhere because the problem as been often repeated here is the culture we live in, not so much women themselves.
ManWomenMyth is an excellent site and You Tube is also full of sources of opinion that are often correct.
I am talking to foreign women exclusively now and things are moving along smoothly. I will update this soon, but this goes to my plan I hatched back late 2011 to; Wait for it!
Get married! Yes I know most of you do not support that but I want to have children and most of you are childless and plan on staying that way for whatever reason and frankly I am not interested in why.
Mr Enternational
02-07-12, 16:57
I am talking to foreign women exclusively now and things are moving along smoothly. I will update this soon, but this goes to my plan I hatched back late 2011 to; Wait for it!
Get married! Yes I know most of you do not support that but I want to have children and most of you are childless and plan on staying that way for whatever reason and frankly I am not interested in why.What does having a child have to do with getting married? I am all for the former, but the latter is when you screw yourself. Don't get the two confused and think you have to combine them. You can most certainly do one without doing the other. Then again it could work out in your favor. I found myself thinking of all the friends and family members who I have known that have gotten married (more than one time for several people). Are they still together? For me, in most cases (including my own) they are not. Who is on the chopping block now? My 29 year old brother (10 years younger than me). You always think that the younger people will learn from the mistakes of the older people. The fact is though that everyone has to learn on their own. He ran off and got married to a psycho woman without telling anyone and now 3 years later he is about to lose his house and a car and who knows how much child support he will have to pay. Fortunately he works for himself so he can just about say he makes whatever he wants as far as the numbers are concerned. Also, my aunt who is 62 is about to get married for the third time.
I got divorced, had a prenup, the judge wiped his ass with it and she still took half my shit.Forgive me for being naive, but how did that happen?
Forgive me for being naive, but how did that happen?I can't comment on the Manizales911 situation, but did you see this news story today? Apparently, judges in America have the power to force a guy to take his wife on a date-as a punishment? So, I guess they can wipe their asses with a prenup too, if they feel like it.
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/weird/Judge-Orders-Florida-Man-To-Take-His-Wife-on-a-Date-138920574.html
Just in time for Valentine's Day, a Florida judge ruled on Tuesday that a man involved in a scuffle with his wife treat her to an evening at a local bowling alley and a romantic meal at Red Lobster.
Judge John Hurley ordered that Joseph Bray. 47 and his wife Sonja. 39, also visit a marriage counselor.
Hurley handed down this ruling instead of setting bond or slapping Bray with a prison sentence after he deemed domestic violence charges leveled by Bray's wife to be "very, very minor."
According to Bray's arrest affidavit, Bray and his wife got embroiled in a spat after he failed to wish her a happy birthday. Bray's wife claims that her husband shoved her against a sofa and grabbed her neck.
The judge, citing Bray's otherwise clean record and the incident's apparent lack of serious violence, did not consider Bray's behavior a major offense. However, Bray must follow the stipulations of Hurley's ruling very closely if he wants to avoid potential jail time.
"He's going to stop by somewhere and he's going to get some flowers," Hurley said at a hearing, according to Florida newspaper Sun Sentinel."And then he's going to go home, pick up his wife, get dressed, take her to Red Lobster. And then after they have Red Lobster, they're going to go bowling."
Hurley noted that he would not typically treat a domestic violence charge in a similarly jocular or light-hearted manner.
"The court would not normally [make this ruling] if the court felt there was some violence but this is very, very minor and the court felt that that was a better resolution than the other alternatives," Hurley said.
According to Google Maps, there is a Red Lobster conveniently located in Plantation, Florida—Bray's city of residence—adjacent to a Kohl's and nearby the Broward Mall.
Fortunately for Bray and his wife, the Plantation Red Lobster receives high marks in Google Maps' Review section.
Google user Georgia Valente writes that "of all the Red Lobsters in South Florida," the couple's dinner destination is "quite possibly the best."
DJ FourMoney
02-09-12, 08:22
What does having a child have to do with getting married? I am all for the former, but the latter is when you screw yourself. Don't get the two confused and think you have to combine them. You can most certainly do one without doing the other. Then again it could work out in your favor. I found myself thinking of all the friends and family members who I have known that have gotten married (more than one time for several people). Are they still together? For me, in most cases (including my own) they are not. Who is on the chopping block now? My 29 year old brother (10 years younger than me). You always think that the younger people will learn from the mistakes of the older people. The fact is though that everyone has to learn on their own. He ran off and got married to a psycho woman without telling anyone and now 3 years later he is about to lose his house and a car and who knows how much child support he will have to pay. Fortunately he works for himself so he can just about say he makes whatever he wants as far as the numbers are concerned. Also, my aunt who is 62 is about to get married for the third time.So what your saying is that your dysfunctional family / friend network with poor picking skills means I can do one or the other but not both?
I am not planning to return to the United States long term (bank crash is coming, oil shock is coming). This girl is interested in living just about ANYWHERE, has a mind for business (currently a self-employed graphic artist working as an art consultant for the Government) and is competitive (previous life as a professional show jumper). She's also 6'0 and we know how most men don't like tall women, they like small petite women they can dominate either mentally or physically or both (which is why Latin America and Asia are so popular on here). She has found it difficult to find the men she likes in Poland (Black Men) who have something going for themselves and not shorter than her.
I tick all her boxes.
Now with that said, there is risk of it turning pear shaped. Are you saying most men have become risk adverse? I am not, I have stated from day one what I want and frankly that is what most women want a man that knows what he wants and knows how to get it. As I said wanting to get married is not popular with a bunch of people that are either bitter from their own divorce or those that are risk adverse based on their parents divorce or relationships of others. I should tell you, a majority of my immediate family is married with children, while a majority of my friends are either never married (several) or divorced (one).
Why they haven't gotten married, I sort of know why and its not for the reasons often sited on this board. But while they sort themselves out, I'll move on to what I want. I am not interested in chasing women around the world for temporary relationships with no binding agreement. You can scream about all the legalities in the favor of women all you want and while the divorce rate is over 50, that means the other half is not getting a divorce.
It is easy for me to maintain a relationship anyway.
DJ FourMoney
02-09-12, 08:24
Forgive me for being naive, but how did that happen?His lawyer was incompetent, how else can you explain it? IMHO if you need a prenup that is a bad omen.
SavePros321
02-09-12, 08:57
IMHO if you need a prenup that is a bad omen.Kobe Bryant probably thought the same thing and look at where it got him (see the article a page back or two). People change over time and a prenup is supposed to protect your assets in case your spouse later says "fuck till death do us part" and decides to hit the eject button.
These days you are a fool to not have a prenup (ask Katy Perry) before getting married. You are even more foolish if you allow a foreigner to jack you for all of your assets by marrying one without a prenup.
Jay-Z: "I got this African chick with Eddie Murphy on her skull, she like 'jigga man, why you treat me like animal? ' I'm like 'excuse me Ms. Fufu, but when I met your ass, you were dead broke and naked; and now you want half (of my shit). '"
[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1246129]Apparently, judges in America have the power to force a guy to take his wife on a date-as a punishment?
I wonder what the guy's side of the story is. His wife is probably an ugly whale and can't even give a decent BJ or cook a decent meal. I wouldn't marry an AW even if she was rich, beautiful, big-titted and paid me. And I'm an AM. Dated them when I was younger, though. I will only date foreign women because AWs have too many ridiculous needs and unrealistic expectations. Plus they are too fat.
Chocha Monger
02-09-12, 16:44
Kobe Bryant probably thought the same thing and look at where it got him (see the article a page back or two). People change over time and a prenup is supposed to protect your assets in case your spouse later says "fuck till death do us part" and decides to hit the eject button.
These days you are a fool to not have a prenup (ask Katy Perry) before getting married. You are even more foolish if you allow a foreigner to jack you for all of your assets by marrying one without a prenup.
Jay-Z: "I got this African chick with Eddie Murphy on her skull, she like 'jigga man, why you treat me like animal? ' I'm like 'excuse me Ms. Fufu, but when I met your ass, you were dead broke and naked; and now you want half (of my shit). '"A prenup only helps if a guy has some shit to lose in the first place. If a guy doesn't have shit then he doesn't need a prenup. Marriage without a prenup is not a big deal for men without assets. Poor men actually benefit from marriage. Half of nothing leaves nothing.
Well have to say that I drank from the AW cup and found it to be quite a horrible experiance. One that taught me to be wary.
I had struggled to get to a position to be with her and when I did and we were together the changes came about gradually but constant. Issues that had me thinking and then they had me reaching for the exit. I was soooo glad I had not married this one as she would have done what she could to get her hands on my assets. Got her ass and then she got my assets sounds about right. But I saw sense and I walked and then she was suddenly faced with the prospect of losing her meal ticket.
I don't mind halping and putting in when I get out but if it goes one way then I sure as hell won't be looking to hang about there are more fish in the sea and a lot more fun to be had in life. Its a mutually beneficial relationship. And they know that hence the reason they try to get a kid on the scene so that you get ties in to a financially committed relationship.
Wasnt even married but we ended up at a relationship counsellor as I had anger issues. Yeah fucking right I did. Five months down the line the sex was zero the issues she brought were way out of proportion. Kid issues from a previous relationship with a guy who was a fuckwit asshole. Wondering what the next disaster would bring. An understanding of where it was going wrong and that I simply would not get it fixed. The sex was out of this world to begin with. This girl knew what to do when to do it and how to do it. Oral was like nothing I had ever had before then that became a chore then it was a song and dance when I came in her mouth a mad rush to the toilet to spit it out with as much noise and barfing as she could manage. Yep. Drama queen and she had a nasty little addiction to painkillers. So one morning I smelled the coffee and I got my arse out of there pronto. Never looked back and I ensured that I have my fun now without guilt or remorse.
Women wonder why us guys think with our dicks? Well they have given us much pleasure for most of our lifes and if you don't want to get with the program then we know women that will.
I like my cock sucked and I prefer it to have my cum swallowed. You don't like that then Ill move on. You start to develop issues then Ill have issues myself. As you can imagine my cock is attached to my wallet get scarce wi my prick and my wallet becomes shy get my drift?
Mr Enternational
02-10-12, 04:38
She's also 6'0 and we know how most men don't like tall women, they like small petite women they can dominate either mentally or physically or both (which is why Latin America and Asia are so popular on here). She has found it difficult to find the men she likes in Poland (Black Men) who have something going for themselves and not shorter than her.I guess Poland would be the place for me because I am black and like tall women. But too bad it gets so damn cold there and I am under 6'0". Guess I will have to stay here in Thailand, the land of milk and honey. Light on the milk and heavy on the honies. On my way to the beach....
I like Latina and Asian women in spite of the fact, not because of the fact, that they are short. All else equal I prefer tall women, but since I'm not tall they don't give me the time of day. There is a woman in my Spanish class now who is about 6'2" and I would love to go up on her. She has a hell of a sense of humor, too. But she won't go out with me. I don't know if it is because I am short, because I am old, because I am ugly, or because of all the crass things I say in class. Gee, maybe it is a combination of all of those? Ya think?
There are two other women in the class who would Like to date me but one is all tatted up with a bunch of shrapnel hanging off her face and the other one talks like this: Like I was you know like umm like you know [insert stupid bullshit] when like you know umm I don't know, you know, [some other insipid bullshit] and I couldn't, like, deal with it you know so I umm, like, I don't know, whatever.
Bango Cheito
02-13-12, 09:39
I like Latina and Asian women in spite of the fact, not because of the fact, that they are short. All else equal I prefer tall women, but since I'm not tall they don't give me the time of day. There is a woman in my Spanish class now who is about 6'2" and I would love to go up on her. She has a hell of a sense of humor, too. But she won't go out with me. I don't know if it is because I am short, because I am old, because I am ugly, or because of all the crass things I say in class. Gee, maybe it is a combination of all of those? Ya think?
There are two other women in the class who would Like to date me but one is all tatted up with a bunch of shrapnel hanging off her face and the other one talks like this: Like I was you know like umm like you know [insert stupid bullshit] when like you know umm I don't know, you know, [some other insipid bullshit] and I couldn't, like, deal with it you know so I umm, like, I don't know, whatever.Don't know about AR but here in CO being tall is NOT considered a plus physically. In North America I remember it was always that way that women would NEVER date a guy shorter than them (must suck to be a 6'2" woman in the US or Canada I guess) but here in Colombia nobody cares much about that.
Gentleman Travel
02-13-12, 16:07
What does having a child have to do with getting married? I am all for the former, but the latter is when you screw yourself. Don't get the two confused and think you have to combine them. You can most certainly do one without doing the other.Sure you can have a kid without getting married, but that vastly increases the difficulties of raising a child and the odds of him / her turning out badly.
All the statistics and studies show that children brought up in stable, supportive households are happier, better adjusted, do better in school and life and are more likely to have stable relationships of their own.
Single parents have a much tougher time raising kids properly and it shows in drop-out rates, delinquency, etc.
Of course it depends on many other factors as well. Income, education, involvement of both parents, etc.
And a kid of a middle class, mid-life marriage breakdown is not in the same boat as a kid whose father was absent from the start.
Anyone who thinks they should have a kid, without the prospect of a stable, nurturing family, just to propagate his seed, is liable to end up with a bad seed.
Mr Enternational
02-13-12, 17:48
Sure you can have a kid without getting married, but that vastly increases the difficulties of raising a child and the odds of him / her turning out badly.
All the statistics and studies show that children brought up in stable, supportive households are happier, better adjusted, do better in school and life and are more likely to have stable relationships of their own.
Single parents have a much tougher time raising kids properly and it shows in drop-out rates, delinquency, etc.
Of course it depends on many other factors as well. Income, education, involvement of both parents, etc.
And a kid of a middle class, mid-life marriage breakdown is not in the same boat as a kid whose father was absent from the start.
Anyone who thinks they should have a kid, without the prospect of a stable, nurturing family, just to propagate his seed, is liable to end up with a bad seed.When I made the statement about not having to be married to have a kid, I was doing it under the assumption that the male (such as DJ FM) who wanted to have the kid would be in the kid's life and not just pork the mom in order to see what comes out. Several of my female friends who are educated and well off but are getting older and have yet to find a suitable partner have asked me to help them have children with no strings attached. (I don't think the court looks upon that with the same eyes though.) But there is no way that I'm trying to make a child and not be in their life.
Statistics can be bent to say anything. There are several outliers, then there is all of the general population inside of the bell curve. I don't think that a kid will turn out badly just because one parent is not or seldom is in his life. What about the cases when a parent has died while the kid was young? Just because there are two parents in a house does not mean it is stable or supportive. It could very well be a hell hole.
In my situation my parents divorced when I was 12 and my brother was 2. My dad still came to see us everyday and my mom had no problem with that. We are his kids and from her standpoint he should be able to spend time with us whenever he wanted. The thing is that most women are not like my mom and most men are not like my dad. Some guys can't be begged enough to go spend time with their kids and some women refuse to let their kid's father spend time with them. A lot of AWs want to shelter their kids from the father because of some ill will or resentment that they harbor against him. My parents' kids turned out alright though. I have an MBA in International Business and I'm doing well in life and my brother has a BS in Criminal Justice and Sociology and is a police officer and owns his own security business in which he has many contracts. Hell, my dad even works for my brother now. My brother is another good example. He got custody of his son when he was only a couple months old because his mother was not being a responsible parent. Now my nephew is 10 and has always had all As in school.
The whole thing boils down to responsibility. If you don't plan on being a responsible parent then you have no business having fucking kids. But in the end you must remember that the child is an individual and has a mind of it's own. You can give it the best raising possible but it will eventually and always go the way that it wants when all is said and done.
Chocha Monger
02-14-12, 01:26
Sure you can have a kid without getting married, but that vastly increases the difficulties of raising a child and the odds of him / her turning out badly.
All the statistics and studies show that children brought up in stable, supportive households are happier, better adjusted, do better in school and life and are more likely to have stable relationships of their own.
Single parents have a much tougher time raising kids properly and it shows in drop-out rates, delinquency, etc.
Of course it depends on many other factors as well. Income, education, involvement of both parents, etc.
And a kid of a middle class, mid-life marriage breakdown is not in the same boat as a kid whose father was absent from the start.
Anyone who thinks they should have a kid, without the prospect of a stable, nurturing family, just to propagate his seed, is liable to end up with a bad seed.That is quite an interesting hypothesis regarding bastards. Do you think most mongers are bastards from dysfunctional homes or legitimate children from loving married couples who never divorced? Keep in mind that society would generally consider mongers bad seed. As far as most people in America are concerned a bunch of guys who reject traditional relationships and instead fly around the developing world fucking poor girls must be a really bad bunch. I've heard people say such a lifestyle is selfish and degenerate. On many non-monger travel and expat forums mongers are met with blatant hostility. Some people even went so far as to join this forum to make threats against mongers. Do you think that American parents would consider their sons normal well adjusted individuals if they were to find out that they spend their time and money flying around the globe fucking hoes in poverty stricken countries?
If your hypothesis is true then very few mongers should come from happy loving two parent households. After all, if marriage created such a positive environment wouldn't men seek to emulate their fathers rather than avoiding commitments?
Hi CM, no more flaming, ok? The bastard theory does not hold water. No sociological study suggesting this unlike say, recidivism. I'm case-in-point. My folks were happily married 56 years. My brother has been happily married over 30 years. I've never been married. Always been a monger. After my first girlfriend, a Japanese-American, dumped me for another stud. As the saying goes, why buy the cow when you can milk for free? (or at least cheaper). Peace.
If your hypothesis is true then very few mongers should come from happy loving two parent households. After all, if marriage created such a positive environment wouldn't men seek to emulate their fathers rather than avoiding commitments?
Gentleman Travel
02-15-12, 16:07
Statistics can be bent to say anything. There are several outliers, then there is all of the general population inside of the bell curve. I don't think that a kid will turn out badly just because one parent is not or seldom is in his life. What about the cases when a parent has died while the kid was young? Just because there are two parents in a house does not mean it is stable or supportive. It could very well be a hell hole.
The whole thing boils down to responsibility. If you don't plan on being a responsible parent then you have no business having fucking kids. But in the end you must remember that the child is an individual and has a mind of it's own. You can give it the best raising possible but it will eventually and always go the way that it wants when all is said and done.True there are always outliers and exceptions and lots of cases that prove opposite things.
Some kids can grow up great in the most adverse conditions.
And lots of loved and nurtured kids end up bad or useless.
And sure lots of kids survive divorces pretty well. In fact that is a big chunk of the population.
I am talking about playing the odds and not starting a kid's life with the odds stacked against him / her.
Gentleman Travel
02-15-12, 16:26
That is quite an interesting hypothesis regarding bastards. Do you think most mongers are bastards from dysfunctional homes or legitimate children from loving married couples who never divorced? Keep in mind that society would generally consider mongers bad seed. As far as most people in America are concerned a bunch of guys who reject traditional relationships and instead fly around the developing world fucking poor girls must be a really bad bunch. I've heard people say such a lifestyle is selfish and degenerate. On many non-monger travel and expat forums mongers are met with blatant hostility. Some people even went so far as to join this forum to make threats against mongers. Do you think that American parents would consider their sons normal well adjusted individuals if they were to find out that they spend their time and money flying around the globe fucking hoes in poverty stricken countries?
If your hypothesis is true then very few mongers should come from happy loving two parent households. After all, if marriage created such a positive environment wouldn't men seek to emulate their fathers rather than avoiding commitments?That's not my theory. I don't hold mongering out as evidence of a "bad seed" or bad upbringing.
I meant things like dropping out of school, drugs, violent crime, dysfunctional relationships, failure to find a productive place in society.
Maybe some mongers fit that description, but most of us are just ordinary guys who want more sex and fun in their lives. That is as American as apple pie.
It is only the puritanical stream of America (which is currently pretty dominant, at least in public life) that treats this behaviour as unnatural or dangerous to society. Other societies (and time periods) are much more relaxed about this.
I agree that mainstream Americans would view our hobby as you describe, but we know better.
And not all mongers reject traditional relationships. Many just use mongering to supplement their everyday relationships. This does not make those relationships or people dysfunctional, in fact it is highly functional to create coping mechanisms to deal with problems / lacks in your life.
So I am guessing that mongers come from the same diverse backgrounds as any other segment of society. Actually, maybe a little more educated and elite and self-aware because we travel and immerse ourselves in other cultures and clinically examine the shortcomings in our own.
Bango Cheito
02-16-12, 07:25
That's not my theory. I don't hold mongering out as evidence of a "bad seed" or bad upbringing.
I meant things like dropping out of school, drugs, violent crime, dysfunctional relationships, failure to find a productive place in society.
Maybe some mongers fit that description, but most of us are just ordinary guys who want more sex and fun in their lives. That is as American as apple pie.
It is only the puritanical stream of America (which is currently pretty dominant, at least in public life) that treats this behaviour as unnatural or dangerous to society. Other societies (and time periods) are much more relaxed about this.
I agree that mainstream Americans would view our hobby as you describe, but we know better.
And not all mongers reject traditional relationships. Many just use mongering to supplement their everyday relationships. This does not make those relationships or people dysfunctional, in fact it is highly functional to create coping mechanisms to deal with problems / lacks in your life.
So I am guessing that mongers come from the same diverse backgrounds as any other segment of society. Actually, maybe a little more educated and elite and self-aware because we travel and immerse ourselves in other cultures and clinically examine the shortcomings in our own.Beautiful post!
TheStrongest
02-17-12, 01:11
Mongering is for malajusted basterds? Maybe this generally true. If a man were to substitute P4P completely for normal relationships, were to build there social interactions around paying for action, surely this behavior would be unhealthy at best. But what's wrong with getting a little tail when I'm on vacation / away on business?
True, once in a while you will run into some really screwed up, drugged up, drunk as a skunk people in our hobby, but that's the exception, not the rule. On the other hand, in my travels I've been priviledged to have met some truly elite gentlemen who enjoy the hobby tremendously. We share a bond and know that our choices will never be accepted by our brethen in our countries or cities (Depending on where they are from) , so we know how to stay low key about the serious amounts of tail we engage in defiling in either P4P activities or freebies which happen from time to time. The amount of lifestyle conditioning people in our society go through (I'm speaking of good 'ol sex prison, the USA!) is seriously twisted: Give yourself to one woman, watch woman take all your sh*t even if she cheats on you; a real eye opener for those of us who have experienced marriage and the US court systems.
Ever since I started down this path, this hobbby has given me the greatest highlights, the highests highs I've ever experienced and there is no way in hell I plan on giving myself to an AW to take all my sh*t ever again. There is no way to convice me that there are better choices than this lifestyle. IMHO, I just don't buy it.
Mongering is for malajusted basterds? Maybe this generally true. If a man were to substitute P4P completely for normal relationships, were to build there social interactions around paying for action, surely this behavior would be unhealthy at best. But what's wrong with getting a little tail when I'm on vacation / away on business?
TheStrongest
02-17-12, 12:27
The nightmares of the US legal system and the leverage AWs have in divorce court is more than enough to keep a few hobbyists in the game.
I personally can't imagine myself compromising my liberties by marrying / impregnating an AW. Maybe I'm just a bitter asshole, a misogynist, anachronistic jerk but I'll take my casual foreign lays to a domestic alimony payment any day.
"It used to be called illegitimacy. Now it is the new normal. After steadily rising for five decades, the share of children born to unmarried women has crossed a threshold: more than half of births to American women under 30 occur outside marriage."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us/for-women-under-30-most-births-occur-outside-marriage.html?_r=1
I never wanted kids and I am divorced. My ex-wife also did not want kids, until of course she did. Hence divorced. Having said that, I don't think intentional single parenting is right, and I think it is more likely to produce a screwed-up kid. Kids need and deserve two committed parents, and by that I mean one male parent and one female parent and not two fags or two dykes. Those two parents don't have to be legally married but they do need to be committed. Now, are two committed fags or two committed dykes better than one fucking crack addict? Probably. Two of my nieces have gone the single parent route, probably due to being grossly obese neurotic bitches. In one case the father is an ex-boyfriend who signed a lengthy agreement to just be a sperm donor with no financial responsibility. He keeps dropping in and out of the kid's life, while of course maintaining the whole no financial responsibility thing, which confuses the shit out of the kid. In the other case the father is? And the kid is 17 and has already gotten three different girls pregnant.
Allowing gay couples to adopt is suboptimal but probably necessary at this point because there are so many of these throwaway children that someone has to do it. The thing about being gay, while I have nothing against it, is that you just can't naturally procreate that way. All this in vitro fertilization and surrogate parenting is just fucking weird. Yes, it's unfortunate when you want kids and are infertile. This happens to a certain percentage of people. It's unfortunate that I want to dunk a basketball and can't. Deal with it.
Also, since in the US parents are legally responsible for any bastards their children create before turning 18, parents should be able to grind up birth control pills in their children's corn flakes.
Wolvenvacht
02-19-12, 09:09
I don't think intentional single parenting is right, and I think it is more likely to produce a screwed-up kid. Kids need and deserve two committed parents, and by that I mean one male parent and one female parent and not two fags or two dykes.Sorry to rain on your parade, but the only thing that is significant in the upbringing of a kid is the commitment of its parent (s) and the fact there are 1, 2 or 20 parents around of whatever gender or persuasion is absolutely irrelevant. Both my parents have been teachers all their life and have literally seen thousands of kids growing up in all kind of normal or strange surroundings. None of these matter for one bit and are not in the least predictive of "success". You'd be surprised how many absolute bastards are raised in church-going WASP pillar-of-society "normal" households.
Mr Enternational
02-19-12, 10:33
Sorry to rain on your parade, but the only thing that is significant in the upbringing of a kid is the commitment of its parent (s) and the fact there are 1, 2 or 20 parents around of whatever gender or persuasion is absolutely irrelevant. Both my parents have been teachers all their life and have literally seen thousands of kids growing up in all kind of normal or strange surroundings. None of these matter for one bit and are not in the least predictive of "success". You'd be surprised how many absolute bastards are raised in church-going WASP pillar-of-society "normal" households.How do you think I got to be as bad as I am? My mom always made me go to church 2 or 3 times / week. So I started hanging with a couple of other teenage guys from the church. Little did anyone know they were pimps on what was then Stewart Ave in Atlanta. And that is how I got my start. But I was able to escape that lifestyle when I graduated high school and moved out from my mom's and didn't have to go to church anymore. LOL.
Gentleman Travel
02-21-12, 16:40
"It used to be called illegitimacy. Now it is the new normal. After steadily rising for five decades, the share of children born to unmarried women has crossed a threshold: more than half of births to American women under 30 occur outside marriage."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/us/for-women-under-30-most-births-occur-outside-marriage.html?_r=1Interesting article, although maybe not as analytical as would be helpful.
My first question was whether they were focusing on simple non-marital status as opposed to single-parent situations (and they seem to be).
For the most part, common-law relationships have the potential to be as stable and useful and marriages, although where the dividing line is between that and just living together is not clear to me.
Also, they introduce an important caveat vis-a-vis the US.
"Almost all of the rise in nonmarital births has occurred among couples living together. While in some countries such relationships endure at rates that resemble marriages, in the United States they are more than twice as likely to dissolve than marriages."
But then they seem to contradict this."Like other women interviewed here, she described her children as largely unplanned, a byproduct of uncommitted relationships."
So maybe there are two parents at the outset, but no real commitment to the child or the relationship.
However, you do see a lot of women PLANNING to have children, regardless of whether there is a permanent partner or not. I know many women who have gone this route.
We see this especially in places like Eastern Europe, where there is a strong cultural norm that women must have kids to complete their lives, yet eligible men are rare and divorce rates have been high for a generation. I guess if they are prepared for the commitment and the sacrifices and have the support (in the west from their own income or government support and in the east from a family network) then they can overcome any disadvantages.
Anyway, the initial point of this thread was to give DJ4$ gratuitous marital and child-rearing advice. And DJ, I am with you. Keep looking for a relationship with a woman who wants to marry and have kid. On its good days, this is a great life. Just make sure she understands your expectations. That the sexual fun has to go on, regardless of the daily grind.
Bango Cheito
02-23-12, 05:18
I don't even really think 2 stable parents are enough to raise a kid or kids anymore. It's 2 poor oppressed souls against the whole rest of their often very competitive environment. I'm beginning to see the sense of the African proverb "it takes a village to raise a child."
Chocha Monger
02-23-12, 05:31
This is why drugs and mongering are a bad combination. http://www.spike.com/video-clips/o0i2tl/1000-ways-to-die-em-bear-assed
Talk about going for the jugular! This is the price men in the USA must endure to get together with an AW. There ain't enough incentive to give up and give these AW the satisfaction of being manipulated into giving up all personal assets and sacrifices. This is plain BS!
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/03/deion-sanders-wife-sues-for-200-million-alleges-assault/1
How do you think I got to be as bad as I am? My mom always made me go to church 2 or 3 times / week. So I started hanging with a couple of other teenage guys from the church. Little did anyone know they were pimps on what was then Stewart Ave in Atlanta. And that is how I got my start. But I was able to escape that lifestyle when I graduated high school and moved out from my mom's and didn't have to go to church anymore. LOL.Hi Mr. E and All. Nothing wrong with going to church (I do, almost every week) but I wouldn't join one. In the old testament it was quite common for wealthy men to have many wives and concubines and that was completely acceptable. I am not a religious scholar but the new testament seems to contradict the old testament as well as have many other inconsistencies. Most religions have mutated the bible or their version of the bible into some self-serviing, self-righteous, ritual-laden bullshit. Still, I don't know how anyone could logically challenge the existence of God even though He has a twisted sense of humor having created woman, so beautiful and yet so anti-man (at least in this part of the world). Sorry if I'm rambling.
As far as AWs I don't even date them any more. I have a steady black hooker "on call" for when I need a $60 blow job that she performs expertly and while being filmed. She's my little porn queen that keeps me happy in-between jaunts to Asia or Tijuana or elsewhere I am blessed to go for business trips.
We international mongers are much smarter than the average American married or single man because we have figured out that the only place we absolutely have to put up with AWs and all their self-centered, fat-ass bullshit is in the workplace. I wouldn't date a AW now if she paid me. They are not worth my time.
Gentleman Travel
03-05-12, 16:56
As far as AWs I don't even date them any more. I have a steady black hooker "on call" for when I need a $60 blow job that she performs expertly and while being filmed. She's my little porn queen that keeps me happy in-between jaunts to Asia or Tijuana or elsewhere I am blessed to go for business trips.I have a similar service provider. A big breasted French girl who does BBBJ CIM for $80. And when you establish that kind of cost / service base line it puts everything else in perspective.
I mean taking a girl out on a dinner date would cost more each time with a guarantee of no sex for the first several dates and not much chance of CIM even if you become regular lovers.
Still, I would date (and do, although limited since I am already married) but at least I know what my options are and what things are worth.
Wayne Roberts
03-09-12, 09:44
That's not my theory. I don't hold mongering out as evidence of a "bad seed" or bad upbringing.
I meant things like dropping out of school, drugs, violent crime, dysfunctional relationships, failure to find a productive place in society.
Maybe some mongers fit that description, but most of us are just ordinary guys who want more sex and fun in their lives. That is as American as apple pie.
It is only the puritanical stream of America (which is currently pretty dominant, at least in public life) that treats this behaviour as unnatural or dangerous to society. Other societies (and time periods) are much more relaxed about this.
I agree that mainstream Americans would view our hobby as you describe, but we know better.
And not all mongers reject traditional relationships. Many just use mongering to supplement their everyday relationships. This does not make those relationships or people dysfunctional, in fact it is highly functional to create coping mechanisms to deal with problems / lacks in your life.
So I am guessing that mongers come from the same diverse backgrounds as any other segment of society. Actually, maybe a little more educated and elite and self-aware because we travel and immerse ourselves in other cultures and clinically examine the shortcomings in our own.Most hookers report that the vast majority of their clients are married men or men in sexless relationships.
Contrary to it being the single loser who can't get a wife / girlfriend, its predominantly men in sexless relationships who are forced into the arms of prostitutes.
Or even. Attempt to justify it?
Mongers are normal people. Just like anyone else. They come from poor families and rich families. And all the families in between. They come from bad homes and outstanding homes. And all the homes in between.
What's wrong with going to a poor country to pay for sex from a woman who's hard up and willing to perform the service? How many women working at WalMart are there for career advancement? You can compare working girls to women working at WalMart. Some are there because they actually LIKE the work. Some are there because it's the only job they can get. Some of them actually have husbands or brothers or boyfriends who require them to work at WalMart, when they'd rather do something else. Does this mean that you shouldn't shop at WalMart?
What's a worse job? Working for minimum wage at WalMart for 40 hours a week. Or an exceptional wage giving blow jobs to ten men a night and working LESS than 40 hours a week?
What fuckin' planet are we living on here?
Men like variety, I'm married. Three kids (two grown and through college. And I paid their way through it). I do my job as a provider and head of household. Who's business is it where I put my dick? I love my wife. She's my soulmate. I don't need, nor want, to fall in love with another woman. So I'm not going to go out and try to find "free" pussy."Free" pussy falls in love with you."Free" pussy calls you at 2am in the morning and follows you around."Free" pussy says it's okay to cum inside her and when you do, you get the clap. Or she gets pregnant. Or both."Free" pussy destroys marriages.
LOL."Free" Pussy, no such thing! Free pussy is the most expensive kind! Also. I'll tell you I'm a very muscular and decent looking guy. But if I trolled for the free pussy. I'd get all the hassles and headaches of it and would end up with only about "6" or "7" type woman.
I can pay to have a "10" professional woman on every trip I take. Go to a German FKK. I could run through at least 10 girls in a week without breaking a sweat. And all of them in the 8-10 range.
They don't follow me home. They don't call my house. And they make me wear a rubber. So I don't get the clap!
How is this dysfunctional? I want something. The woman wants something. I give her hers and she gives me mine. Sounds like capitalism doesn't it? My dollars are made here in the United States (a rich country). If I go to pay for a working girl in Moldava (a poor country). I'm transferring physical wealth from a rich country to a poor one. This wealth redistribution at it's finest and it helps poor nations (and poor people). It's really a beautiful thing.
Heh. I'm a big guy. I was born big and I used to work as a bouncer in a nightclub. I was born with physical power and I made money off that power.
Women. Beautiful women. Are born with sexual power. Yet they aren't allowed to make their livelihood off that power? What fucking principle of LIBERTY is that idea based on? WTF? Seriously.
Not all poor women enter prostitution. Only the ones who wish to. This trafficking shit is 99 percent garbage by the way. I know a woman from Russia who "trafficked" herself to Copenhagen to make big bucks as an escort. And now she's "trafficked" herself to Italy to make even more. She's damn good at what she does. She lays out on the goddam beach most of the day and fucks one guy a night and makes six figures a year. And she's a SEX SLAVE?
Give me a FUCKING BREAK.
Anyone who says what we're doing is wrong is either a fool, or jealous, or a control freak. Or quite possibly ALL THREE.
here's an excellent analysis of american women / men sexual dynamics.
1. sex is a primary emotional need for most men, but not so needed by most women. we all, to some degree, project our own hierarchy of values onto others and essentially assume that things that are unimportant for us are also unimportant to other people. if sex isn't a big thing for her, she will project that it isn't a big thing for you. the solution to this is to communicate and tell her how important it is to you. she can't meet your needs if she doesn't know what they are. so tell her. not just a hint. really tell her. don't be accusing or bullying or threatening. wrap it up nicely but still be truthful."i love you like crazy but i have a primary need you are unable to meet, and it is a problem for me. i know it isn't as important for you but its really important to me."
keep in mind that you likely already meet emotional needs for her that are more important to her than they are for you. you are really just asking her to make a similar accommodation.
2. a lot of things can affect how eager a woman is with you sexually. one of them is what i would call "perceived differential in value in the mating marketplace." essentially, if she believes that her odds of being able to get a man who is better than you are substantially greater than your odds of being able to get a woman who is better than her, she will be less sexually eager.
though it is indeed important that you be in shape and look as much like prime mating material as possible, it is unfortunate but true that many women assign mating value based upon a man's wealth or earning power. studies even show that on average a woman has more orgasms and enjoys sex more with a man she perceives to be more wealthy. so you need to definitely stick with making the body good, but also develop either higher earning power (if that is an issue) or if you already earn plenty, figure out a way of raising your public status / visibility such as speaking in public about something at which you are an expert. over time, with this sort of sideline, you'll start getting fan mail from attractive women. set up a separate email account for that endeavor that people who attend your speeches will use, and put her in charge of correspondence from that account. let her deal with the attractive women who want to ask you questions or give you accolades.
this will raise her perception of your mate value and therefore raise her desire to mate with you.
3. though the credibility of some of these studies is not so good due to the sources, there are at least some studies both in europe and the us that suggest that a division of labor such that the woman gets stuck with all the housework diminishes both her sexual availability and enthusiasm. it may help to look over the home responsibilities very carefully, and see if the division is unfair and she is pulling more than her fair share. if that is the case, re-mediate that by undertaking some of the home chores for which you are suited. most men can't iron, and the 5-million categories of laundry that women invent are too painstaking for a man to undertake successfully, but you can probably do dishes, clean the bathroom, etc.
4. back to the differential in prioritization of sex.
women in ordinary relationships will not be in the mood for sex unless all of their other needs are met. things like financial security, trust and other factors are very important, and without these there's no sexual desire or enthusiasm. a man has lots of desire and enthusiasm even if he's living in a cardboard box. lol consider the possibility that some fundamental needs of hers are unmet. i would recommend the book "his needs, her needs." this book contains tools to help you identify her needs so you know where you may be falling down. it may be that meeting one simple need consistently will be all it takes to turn on an enthusiastic sex switch.
Just about everything you posted is true.
From personal experience, I can tell you that women don't necessarily jump on a good looking guy. Now, I'm no George Clooney certainly. But I am 6'2" and weigh 225 lbs. At 10 percent bodyfat with broad shoulders and a narrow waist. My face is decent. But.
Women don't just "jump" on me. Oh. Yes they will move in and "probe" me. They'll ask questions and most of those questions are based on what I do for a living. If I'm in my work clothes. They won't even usually do that because I do a difficult and sometimes dirty job. So they assume I don't make much money (but I do).
So yes, women are foremost attracted to a man's ability to be a provider. Then after that I would say, his ability to commit to a relationship.
My wife tells me that I am the most attractive to her when I do the dishes. She knows that sex motivates me so she turns into a kitten when she wants something from me. And I've told her I know she's manipulating me and it's perfectly acceptable! She doesn't even buy me birthday presents anymore. SHE presents herself as my birthday present. She'll think up something sexy for us to do. That we've never done before. Like once we fucked on a public beach after dark. One time she rented a hotel for two days and we fucked almost continuously. We took breaks for showers, bathroom calls, Starbucks and restaurants. Then went back at it. Once she played a slave girl for me. She knows I enjoy these things better than any present she could buy for me!
Bango Cheito
03-16-12, 04:49
I loved your previous post.
But I think that honestly your own self-assesment may not be the assesment women are giving you. Maybe you don't have the face you think you have and are running into "face control".
I can honestly say that the more I take care of my appearance, the more attention I get from women. And the difference between when I go out in bummy clothes and when I go out dressed nicely is NIGHT AND DAY.
Just about everything you posted is true.
From personal experience, I can tell you that women don't necessarily jump on a good looking guy. Now, I'm no George Clooney certainly. But I am 6'2" and weigh 225 lbs. At 10 percent bodyfat with broad shoulders and a narrow waist. My face is decent. But.
Women don't just "jump" on me. Oh. Yes they will move in and "probe" me. They'll ask questions and most of those questions are based on what I do for a living. If I'm in my work clothes. They won't even usually do that because I do a difficult and sometimes dirty job. So they assume I don't make much money (but I do).
So yes, women are foremost attracted to a man's ability to be a provider. Then after that I would say, his ability to commit to a relationship.
My wife tells me that I am the most attractive to her when I do the dishes. She knows that sex motivates me so she turns into a kitten when she wants something from me. And I've told her I know she's manipulating me and it's perfectly acceptable! She doesn't even buy me birthday presents anymore. SHE presents herself as my birthday present. She'll think up something sexy for us to do. That we've never done before. Like once we fucked on a public beach after dark. One time she rented a hotel for two days and we fucked almost continuously. We took breaks for showers, bathroom calls, Starbucks and restaurants. Then went back at it. Once she played a slave girl for me. She knows I enjoy these things better than any present she could buy for me!
LittleTruths
03-16-12, 12:27
I can honestly say that the more I take care of my appearance, the more attention I get from women. And the difference between when I go out in bummy clothes and when I go out dressed nicely is NIGHT AND DAY.It depends.
Sometimes it works exactly the other way around; you go out all slick and looking good and not much happens, then you're all dirty and sweat in some situation and some fine pussy steps up to you on her own without you doing anything for it.
Based on my personal experience I think it depends on the socio-economic status of the women in question.
Most people are intimidated by relating to a "too slick-looking person" (I mean for example a man wearing an Armani suit with awesome shoes and accessories) , looking flawless doesn't make people comfortable, but it certainly attracts a cartain type of girls.
Just the same, some other kind of girls see a man in his dirty work's clothes, maybe he even is muscular and sweat, and the girl's dirty mind does the trick.
Women. Amazing!
Bango Cheito
03-17-12, 16:17
It depends.
Sometimes it works exactly the other way around; you go out all slick and looking good and not much happens, then you're all dirty and sweat in some situation and some fine pussy steps up to you on her own without you doing anything for it.
Based on my personal experience I think it depends on the socio-economic status of the women in question.
Most people are intimidated by relating to a "too slick-looking person" (I mean for example a man wearing an Armani suit with awesome shoes and accessories) , looking flawless doesn't make people comfortable, but it certainly attracts a cartain type of girls.
Just the same, some other kind of girls see a man in his dirty work's clothes, maybe he even is muscular and sweat, and the girl's dirty mind does the trick.
Women. Amazing!The better shape you're in, the less the clothes make a difference. And here they are biased against fat people, SEVERELY.
It depends.I agree. You need to look slick without "looking" slick. The ED HARDY look just doesn't cut it.
IMO it's a fine line. You can't do too much or else AW's question your sexuality. Not enough and you are considered clueless and gross.
This week I was making a copy at a printing place and an old lady asked me if I was gay because she noticed that I was wearing cologne. I laughed and said that is only in american culture. I grew up with europeans. We all wore cologne. No offense to anybody but those kinds of cultural norms have left american guys to not care about their appearance. American males are well known worldwide to dress like average "joes". Now AW's decide men need to be more metrosexual and do more manscaping.
Confused neurotic flip flop wearing motor mouths. Get lost.
There is hope, there are still a few AW with their heads screwed on tight.
Written by EdrienneCole.
http://edriennecole.com/
Women make the rules. At least, until men decide to start making them again.
Having casual affairs and mistresses used to be insanely common. Expected even. And right out in the open. So long as you treated both well, you could have your wife and mistress in the same opera box and still enjoy the show. Women were also permitted their indiscretions but were a bit more quiet about it. If a man *did not* have mistresses and bastards running around, he was considered a failure financially, sexually and socially.
Somewhere along the way, women got this crazy notion that men should only love / be sexual with their wives. Men certainly didn't come up with that idea! (I could go on and on about where I think it came from but that's not the point here.) They withheld the kitty, lost their feminine ways and wiles, became harsh and demanding shrews. And men sacrificed their balls. Most now only get to see them when wifey says it's ok to take them out of the mayonnaise jar on the mantel (generally for procreation purposes only).
Now we live in a crazy, mixed up world where certain celebrity men can be rakes and it's ok. But if the average man is a rake, he's shunned. Men certainly don't shun him (they're jealous) , but women do and so to keep from pissing their women off (and losing access to the kitty) the men will intone the same BS as the women.
Women are supposed to look and act the part of being huge sluts (short of actually doing the deed) but that just gives other women something to judge and gossip about. Is she too slutty? Yes, but let us all wear the same clothes to look like her. Is she too much of a prude? Yes, she has a great figure and should show it off more. She looks like a huge **** and we love her look BUT OMG she ACTUALLY *IS* a ****? Off with her head! See. Women are crazy. Men tend to love sluts (go figure, easy kitty!) but can't verbalize it for fear of having their own access to kitty be put on lockdown.
Until men regain their balls and don't let women dictate what is ok for them to do / say / think / want, women will continue to make all the decisions.
If a guy wants to tell his civvie GF that he used to see hookers, or that he slept around, or whatever and she freaks out. Don'tcha think that's a sign that she ain't THE ONE (cue angels singing in the background)? Why is he going to give her his balls to put in the mayonnaise jar before he's even signed the contract?
My last serious relationship started off with him confessing that his marriage had broken up because she caught him seeing hookers (nevermind that she'd spred 10 times in 12 years, how DARE he see hookers?). He was truly and terribly anxious that this would be a deal breaker for me. After I covered my giggles with a fit of coughing, I assured him that whatever he did before was his history and I have mine as well. Who are either of us to judge what the other did at previous points in our lives? Fast forward several years and we had a wonderful, open relationship with both of us knowing all the dirt on the other.
I am who I am. He is who he is. Our values will either line up or they won't. It's not the end of the world either way. And being in a relationship is certainly not worth subjugating who *I* am just to please someone else or avoid their judgement.
Until men take that road more often than not, women will make the rules about what they can / cannot do. A person can only have power over you if YOU GIVE it to them.
Chocha Monger
04-09-12, 04:09
There is hope, there are still a few AW with their heads screwed on tight.But there are still a lot of crazy ones out there. Be careful!
http://news.yahoo.com/angry-ex-girlfriend-goes-ballistic-rips-off-man-192805232.html
There is hope, there are still a few AW with their heads screwed on tight.Truth I'll drink with you on this Capt.
ThatGuy865
05-09-12, 03:13
Ok fellas.
I met this AW over the weekend. I was at one of those local fairs. I was in line for a drink, she walked over. Fine as can be. Bam. Bam and bam. We commence to talking. She's telling me how she just graduated from culinary school, got this great job. Blah blah blah. So I get the digits. I call that night to chit chat. We make plans to meet the next day for lunch.
Well low and behold. We meet for lunch. Its going great. Laughing, margarita's are flowin. It was great. To my surprise. She insists on paying for the meal. I offer and offer. But she insist. Who am I. To refuse. I tell her the least I can do is take her to dinner.
Fast forward to last night. I called to arrange for dinner and she tells me. She bought a great bottle of wine and would prefer if I came by and she would cook one of her specialties for me. Now w / a offer like that I couldn't refuse, I hop into my ride. Woosh bam boom. I'm knockin on the door. To make a long story short. We ate, drank a COUPLE of bottles of wine. She leads me to the couch, throws on some music, does a little sexy dance and commences to FUCK my brains out. She said she had been to busy working and going to school and had not been w / anyone for 3yrs and it showed.
Damn. Hot, sexy and loves to cook. I may have to turn in my "Players" card. These women. Can make a grown man cry.
AW. Can't live w / them. Dam sure can't live without them.
Bango Cheito
05-12-12, 17:14
Ok fellas.
I met this AW over the weekend. I was at one of those local fairs. I was in line for a drink, she walked over. Fine as can be. Bam. Bam and bam. We commence to talking. She's telling me how she just graduated from culinary school, got this great job. Blah blah blah. So I get the digits. I call that night to chit chat. We make plans to meet the next day for lunch.
Well low and behold. We meet for lunch. Its going great. Laughing, margarita's are flowin. It was great. To my surprise. She insists on paying for the meal. I offer and offer. But she insist. Who am I. To refuse. I tell her the least I can do is take her to dinner.
Fast forward to last night. I called to arrange for dinner and she tells me. She bought a great bottle of wine and would prefer if I came by and she would cook one of her specialties for me. Now w / a offer like that I couldn't refuse, I hop into my ride. Woosh bam boom. I'm knockin on the door. To make a long story short. We ate, drank a COUPLE of bottles of wine. She leads me to the couch, throws on some music, does a little sexy dance and commences to FUCK my brains out. She said she had been to busy working and going to school and had not been w / anyone for 3yrs and it showed.
Damn. Hot, sexy and loves to cook. I may have to turn in my "Players" card. These women. Can make a grown man cry.
AW. Can't live w / them. Dam sure can't live without them.Dude, come back when you find a girl that picks up other girls for you and masturbates in front of you while you fuck the shit out of them! Happened to me several times here in Colombia.
ThatGuy865
05-13-12, 03:22
Dude, come back when you find a girl that picks up other girls for you and masturbates in front of you while you fuck the shit out of them! Happened to me several times here in Colombia.Been there. Done that. I was just relating my latest escapade.
I guess it was something you never had. Til you got to Colombia. What a Shame.
Read this crap. Unbelievable!
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-tennessee-man-has-30-kids-20120518.0, 4036567. Story
Bango Cheito
05-19-12, 05:19
Been there. Done that. I was just relating my latest escapade.
I guess it was something you never had. Til you got to Colombia. What a Shame.I had a lot of crazy sexual experiences, but no, never that till I got here, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. You have NO IDEA what you're missing.
Must Be Jelly
05-19-12, 16:43
Ok fellas.
I met this AW over the weekend. I was at one of those local fairs. I was in line for a drink, she walked over. Fine as can be. Bam. Bam and bam. We commence to talking. She's telling me how she just graduated from culinary school, got this great job. Blah blah blah. So I get the digits. I call that night to chit chat. We make plans to meet the next day for lunch.
Well low and behold. We meet for lunch. Its going great. Laughing, margarita's are flowin. It was great. To my surprise. She insists on paying for the meal. I offer and offer. But she insist. Who am I. To refuse. I tell her the least I can do is take her to dinner.
Fast forward to last night. I called to arrange for dinner and she tells me. She bought a great bottle of wine and would prefer if I came by and she would cook one of her specialties for me. Now w / a offer like that I couldn't refuse, I hop into my ride. Woosh bam boom. I'm knockin on the door. To make a long story short. We ate, drank a COUPLE of bottles of wine. She leads me to the couch, throws on some music, does a little sexy dance and commences to FUCK my brains out. She said she had been to busy working and going to school and had not been w / anyone for 3yrs and it showed.
Damn. Hot, sexy and loves to cook. I may have to turn in my "Players" card. These women. Can make a grown man cry.
AW. Can't live w / them. Dam sure can't live without them.Most American woman are selfish and feel that their pussy is made of gold. They are all working girls in one way or another. Bottom line in america you are paying for pussy, maybe not with cash but you have to give to get. I have lived this for 50 years now, take my word for it. What you found was the exception not the usual.
ThatGuy865
05-19-12, 16:44
I had a lot of crazy sexual experiences, but no, never that till I got here, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. You have NO IDEA what you're missing.If Colombia is where you are able to fulfill your fantasies. Great. I can pull up a thread for almost every location. And there is a guy that will say the exact same thing about that place. DR. BKK. EEU. PI. The list goes on.
Each guy can find what they call their "sexual" paradise. Where ever they are able. There are different reasons and variable that come into play why some do in one place and others another.
I mean let face it. You can pull up video sites all day and see millions of amateur video's of AW doing any and all sexual freakness. It wasn't happening for you or not to the degree that you would have like. Sorry. Oh well. Thats life.
If it works for you in Colombia. Hey I'm happy you are living swell. Great. Wish you nothing but happiness. But like wise. Why can't you accept that I can be just as happy and getting all my sexual pleasures. I'm just doing it here. Who knows maybe I'm doing things. You are missing out on. One never knows.
Bango Cheito
05-21-12, 19:04
If Colombia is where you are able to fulfill your fantasies. Great. I can pull up a thread for almost every location. And there is a guy that will say the exact same thing about that place. DR. BKK. EEU. PI. The list goes on.
Each guy can find what they call their "sexual" paradise. Where ever they are able. There are different reasons and variable that come into play why some do in one place and others another.
I mean let face it. You can pull up video sites all day and see millions of amateur video's of AW doing any and all sexual freakness. It wasn't happening for you or not to the degree that you would have like. Sorry. Oh well. Thats life.
If it works for you in Colombia. Hey I'm happy you are living swell. Great. Wish you nothing but happiness. But like wise. Why can't you accept that I can be just as happy and getting all my sexual pleasures. I'm just doing it here. Who knows maybe I'm doing things. You are missing out on. One never knows.Dude, you are the one talking about some INCREDIBLE experience with an AW and as YOU YOURSELF just pointed out, the board is full of other MORE INCREDIBLE experiences in other countries. You can't post that shit here and then turn around and come out with "well don't step on my dick if I'm happy". The whole purpose of this thread is to argue whether AW as a CLASS of woman compare favorably to women from outside of the US or not. You presented some anecdotal evidence and I refuted it.
In all fairness, I think that a guy who thinks he "doesn't have to pay for it" with non pros in other countries is generally fooling himself. If you watch the typical Colombian couple closely, the man is sexually attracted to the woman and the woman very much NOT SO to the man. The man is making it up with some sort of other benefit for her to be with him, almost always economic. This is typical all over the world. The big difference is that in Colombia the ROI is many many times greater. And to me the biggest benefit is that Colombian women, be they attractive or not so much so, are almost always WAY BETTER IN BED than their North American counterparts!
TG865 is a *stud*. A real pickup artist! Wonder what he's doing on a P4P board hanging out errr. Looking down on us lowly mortals?
Been there. Done that. I was just relating my latest escapade.
I guess it was something you never had. Til you got to Colombia. What a Shame.
CherchezFemme
05-31-12, 02:36
Another cute female teacher gets caught with one of her students. There were more pictures in the paper, I tried to find them on the website but I couldn't. Trust me, this teacher is cute as hell! She's 26, in her prime, in NYC and she can't find a guy? She has to hit on a student?
WTF is wrong with these women? Another reason why so many of us run abroad.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/teacher_caught_kissing_her_boy_toy_flmMp2AtyJ6iWSNeStM8GO
CherchezFemme
05-31-12, 02:45
Found one picture, she is on the left. That's an attractive woman, no doubt.
She has a slutty vibe; she's got a decent amount of tats and there were more photos of her double-fisting beers and drinking out of a beer bong. Which I guess is normal behavior for a young woman.
There's a lot of men, 25-40, that would love to date a cute young woman like that.
Of course, she's not the brightest bulb in the closet- school's out in a month and the kid is a senior!
The funny thing is the comments where some women say he's 18, so technically it's not illegal. Riiiighhhhtttt, because if it was a male teacher with a female student, they'd be TOTALLY Ok with it.
F' ing hypocrites.
CherchezFemme
05-31-12, 03:26
I bet going back to high school she has a ton of guy friends who got friend-zoned. She was probably giving it up to everyone except the guys who were nice to her. That was once me, not anymore thank goodness.
SavePros321
05-31-12, 05:04
'Crouching Tiger' Star Denies Prostitution Claim
"The Hong Kong news outlet Apple Daily is at the center of the story, claiming that Ziyi was unable to promote her upcoming film, Dangerous Liaisons in Cannes because she had been barred from leaving the country while under investigation for a sex scandal linked with China's former Minister of Commerce, Bo Xilai.
The paper alleges that a wealthy associate of the former Chinese official has confessed to paying Zhang nearly a million dollars in 2007 to have sex with her. She is also accused of sleeping with a myriad of other government officials and businessmen for large amounts of cash between 2004 and 2007.
Zhang Ziyi is best known to American audiences for her starring roles in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, House of Flying Daggers, Memoirs of a Geisha and Rush Hour 2 opposite Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker."
http://www.etonline.com/news/122222_Crouching_Tiger_Hidden_Dragon_Star_Zhang_Ziyi_Denies_Prostitution_Claim/index.html
Mr Enternational
05-31-12, 05:31
another cute female teacher gets caught with one of her students. there were more pictures in the paper, i tried to find them on the website but i couldn't. trust me, this teacher is cute as hell! she's 26, in her prime, in nyc and she can't find a guy? she has to hit on a student?
wtf is wrong with these women? another reason why so many of us run abroad.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/teacher_caught_kissing_her_boy_toy_flmmp2atyj6iwsnestm8golovey dovey:global-studies teacher julie warning gets cozy in the lap of 18-year-old student eric arty. the romantic scene in a greenwich village park was caught on camera by another of her students.
seriously? camera phones in conjunction with the internet has put this world to shit. there is absolutely no such thing as privacy anymore. what gave his peers the right to fuck his good thing up like that? it probably won't make a difference though because he is 18. although in my state it would also be illegal if he is one of her direct students and she is responsible for giving him grades.
Tony Hoeprano
05-31-12, 06:02
'Crouching Tiger' Star Denies Prostitution Claim.
"The Hong Kong news outlet Apple Daily is at the center of the story, claiming that Ziyi was unable to promote her upcoming film, Dangerous Liaisons in Cannes because she had been barred from leaving the country while under investigation for a sex scandal linked with China's former Minister of Commerce, Bo Xilai.
The paper alleges that a wealthy associate of the former Chinese official has confessed to paying Zhang nearly a million dollars in 2007 to have sex with her. She is also accused of sleeping with a myriad of other government officials and businessmen for large amounts of cash between 2004 and 2007.
Zhang Ziyi is best known to American audiences for her starring roles in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, House of Flying Daggers, Memoirs of a Geisha and Rush Hour 2 opposite Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker."
http://www.etonline.com/news/122222_Crouching_Tiger_Hidden_Dragon_Star_Zhang_Ziyi_Denies_Prostitution_Claim/index.htmlHoly moly. I hope that poontang was worth it! Ya got to think there's a point of diminishing returns in how good the sex is, I wouldn't imagine much better or likely worse than some of the hottest Issarn girls working in gogo bars provide better sex than this gal, but I guess they can say they banged a movie star LOL
CherchezFemme
06-08-12, 06:06
Oregon woman sues man for giving her herpes, jury awards her $900, 000.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/06/herpes_verdict_in_portland_wom.html
The guy was a douche, she asked him to wear a jimmy but he didn't. He told her after that he had the herps.
This could set a bad precedent though, couldn't it? What if a woman has sex with 4-5 guys over 2 months and then has an outbreak. Is she going to sue all 5? The one with the most money? She would have to get all 5 men to submit to blood tests.
Oy.
ThatGuy865
06-19-12, 05:51
I saw a fairly attractive Asian woman walking down Third Avenue in Midtown Manhattan and decided to make an overture to her. I did a hockey style stop on my inline skates, skated beside her and introduced myself. She made I contact with me- I was about a foot away from her, but did not say a word. I certainly was not going to ask her for her phone number, so I turned away from her and skated away.Yeah. I can't understand that. Why a women. Wouldn't jump at the chance to talk to some strange guy.
Cause Nothing says. Style and class. Like a guys making a "hockey style" stop. On "Roller skates". Approaching a strange woman on the street.
How could a "Fine Attractive women". Pass on that. She most definitely had to be a snob.
I bet going back to high school she has a ton of guy friends who got friend-zoned. She was probably giving it up to everyone except the guys who were nice to her. That was once me, not anymore thank goodness.Is this location pic from India? The babes and their outfits look "Made in India".
It's not just NY, Lugal. It's an epidemic in America. Fueled by media and TV shows like Criminal Minds and CSI: NY. Whenever I see I woman I like in California where I live I just think of her Asian counterpart and go to Asia 2. 3X a year where the women treat you nice.
As I skated down Third Avenue on the Upper East Side I saw an attractive woman dressed in a beautiful summer outfit, quite appropriate for the oppressive heat and humidity we were presently bearing the brunt of. I quickly made an abrupt hockey style stop on my skates, took off my helmet and jumped onto the sidewalk. As I approached her from behind I noticed that she looked at herself in a window three times in about fifteen seconds. I was going to say that there are others interested in how you look besides yourself, but I figured I would spare her the humor and startling revelation of her inherent narcism. I simply skated along side her and said,"Good morning. How are you? You look quite attractive today. ' She kept on walking and did not say a word to me. I regreted not taking the more humorous approach.
ThatGuy865
06-19-12, 23:55
It's not just NY, Lugal. It's an epidemic in America. Fueled by media and TV shows like Criminal Minds and CSI: NY. Whenever I see I woman I like in California where I live I just think of her Asian counterpart and go to Asia 2. 3X a year where the women treat you nice.Come on do you really think a woman. That isn't desperate in any country would go for that.
Its only 3rd world Asian countries where women are desperately poor. Would that work.
Try that in Japan or on a Chinese in HK (not a desperate filippino house girl). Roll up on skates and try to get a number. Lets see how well that goes over.
LukeSkywalker
06-20-12, 00:59
A new, distinct class of the super rich, the has emerged in China in the last decade of open market. They are usually powerful government officials who can sell power or influence to business people, the capitalists. These powerful people make sure they squeeze capitalists for everything so they have both more wealth and power than capitalists, therefore they are known as China's super-capitalists,
Central government in Bejing has been trying to stamp out corruption among its officials, but it's pretty much an impossible task given the complexity of modern business and banking structures and the size of China's economy. There were reports in the press of many prosecution and execution of corrupt government officials, including a few top party members. However, corruption inherently thrives in nontransparent systems that are closed to open and fair competition.
I know a few of the children of China's super capitalists. They are arrogant, living high at the center of the universe, thinking theyare better than anybody else. These guys tend to treat everybody, including their girl friends or wives, like crap. It would be interesting to find out who else, and how many of the top Chinese communists, regularly spring US$1 mil for a fuck.
Got to to give the HK press guys good credit for having the balls to expose the stupid, arrogant Chinese government assholes who suck the blood out of every Chinese citizen, and blow their illicit wealth on their extravagant sexual kinks.
Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of young Chinese girls, many more beautiful, honest and far younger than Zhang Ziyi, even children, slave away everyday in run-down, exploitative prostitution dens for pittances, just for food, or to feed their hungry children.
'Crouching Tiger' Star Denies Prostitution Claim.
"The Hong Kong news outlet Apple Daily is at the center of the story, claiming that Ziyi was unable to promote her upcoming film, Dangerous Liaisons in Cannes because she had been barred from leaving the country while under investigation for a sex scandal linked with China's former Minister of Commerce, Bo Xilai.
The paper alleges that a wealthy associate of the former Chinese official has confessed to paying Zhang nearly a million dollars in 2007 to have sex with her. She is also accused of sleeping with a myriad of other government officials and businessmen for large amounts of cash between 2004 and 2007.
Zhang Ziyi is best known to American audiences for her starring roles in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, House of Flying Daggers, Memoirs of a Geisha and Rush Hour 2 opposite Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker."
http://www.etonline.com/news/122222_Crouching_Tiger_Hidden_Dragon_Star_Zhang_Ziyi_Denies_Prostitution_Claim/index.html
Mr Enternational
06-24-12, 07:50
They have the right idea but it comes at a high cost.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhgJW443rD7iee23N1
ThatGuy865
06-24-12, 14:04
Who says Men are NOT getting a fair break with AW. Ask Halle Berry
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/halle-berry-child-support-actress-ordered-pay-gabriel-aubry-20000-month_n_1612868.html
Halle Berry Child Support: Actress Ordered To Pay Gabriel Aubry $20, 000 A Month
Having a child with ex-girlfriend Halle Berry turned out to be profitable for Gabriel Aubry.
In April Aubry filed legal documents asking a judge to force Berry to give him $15, 000 to $20, 000 a month for a proper home, so that the couple's 4-year-old daughter, Nahla, would keep living in the surroundings to which she has become accustomed.
Come on do you really think a woman. That isn't desperate in any country would go for that.
Its only 3rd world Asian countries where women are desperately poor. Would that work.
Try that in Japan or on a Chinese in HK (not a desperate filippino house girl). Roll up on skates and try to get a number. Lets see how well that goes over.Though that route of pick-up is crude, it would work, after some numbers and effort in Japan, maybe Korea. I know. It's called nampa. Japanese young men do it the way of this poster. I bring Western finess, forged from years of dodging the minefield of sex prison; and hence, am much more successful on my, too few, trips to Asia.
ThatGuy865
06-27-12, 00:19
Though that route of pick-up is crude, it would work, after some numbers and effort in Japan, maybe Korea. I know. It's called nampa. Japanese young men do it the way of this poster. I bring Western finess, forged from years of dodging the minefield of sex prison; and hence, am much more successful on my, too few, trips to Asia.I've been to Tokyo, several times for work. I have never once saw guys skating up to women. Getting numbers.
Besides He is not Japanese. That is the thing. What a Japanese guy can do. Is MUCH different than what a foreigner can do. In Japan.
If we are talking numbers. Well any approach will work. If you do it enough times. Sooner or later. You will get a bite.
I'm sure if he keeps it up even in New York. Sooner or later. He might get a number. It might take 100 to 1000 times. But he'll get a number
What I'm saying is. His method is more than likely not a good method. ANYWHERE. Except where women perceive westerners as rich. Which is mainly 3rd world countries. And then they are only responded because of finance. Not his approach.
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