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SavePros321
05-14-15, 11:41
"Imagine you started having a bit of banter with someone quite fit on Tinder. They then cheekily ask you to order them some fast food. Would you do it in the hope of a date?
It seems like a lot of men looking for love have actually said yes to that 'proposition'- and sent pizza and other fast food to the houses of women who've asked them using the popular dating app.
The women involved have turned it into a game, called the Tinder games, presumably named after the Hunger Games, to see how much food they can blag off lovesick men. ".
Full article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/women-using-tinder-men-send-5645147.
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SavePros: next article in the near future: "Women stalked and rap3d by some random strangers they gave their physical address to over Tinder in hopes of getting a free meal"
Article after that: "Tinder creates a "Buy me a Pizza" button so that she can "safely" proposition thirsty betas to buy her food without revealing her physical address."
Why pay for it in America? Women are sexually liberated, independent, educated, and successful now. They should give it up for free and pay for the date too.American women, as a Brit, is that they have been excellent f*cks with real skills that match the much vaunted Thais. Having spent many years in the USA I think my f*ck*ng experiences there were better than anything I could have had back in the UK.
SeizeTheDay
05-14-15, 15:26
"Imagine you started having a bit of banter with someone quite fit on Tinder. They then cheekily ask you to order them some fast food. Would you do it in the hope of a date?
It seems like a lot of men looking for love have actually said yes to that 'proposition'- and sent pizza and other fast food to the houses of women who've asked them using the popular dating app.
The women involved have turned it into a game, called the Tinder games, presumably named after the Hunger Games, to see how much food they can blag off lovesick men. ".
Full article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/women-using-tinder-men-send-5645147.
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SavePros: next article in the near future: "Women stalked and rap3d by some random strangers they gave their physical address to over Tinder in hopes of getting a free meal"
Article after that: "Tinder creates a "Buy me a Pizza" button so that she can "safely" proposition thirsty betas to buy her food without revealing her physical address."I have to admit that pizza looks good. These guys have no pizza, and no pussy. Apparently no brains either. I will do my best to find a good slice of pizza here in Medellin, after I go balls deep in Colombia's finest. But my expectations are low, about the pizza not the pussy.
SavePros321
05-14-15, 15:37
I have to admit that pizza looks good. These guys have no pizza, and no pussy. Apparently no brains either. I will do my best to find a good slice of pizza here in Medellin, after I go balls deep in Colombia's finest. But my expectations are low, about the pizza not the pussy.Good luck with that (the pizza). Dominos Pizza is about as good as it gets, and that's not saying much considering Dominos is absolute garbage to begin with.
"Imagine you started having a bit of banter with someone quite fit on Tinder. They then cheekily ask you to order them some fast food. Would you do it in the hope of a date?
It seems like a lot of men looking for love have actually said yes to that 'proposition'- and sent pizza and other fast food to the houses of women who've asked them using the popular dating app.
The women involved have turned it into a game, called the Tinder games, presumably named after the Hunger Games, to see how much food they can blag off lovesick men. ".
Full article: http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/women-using-tinder-men-send-5645147.
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SavePros: next article in the near future: "Women stalked and rap3d by some random strangers they gave their physical address to over Tinder in hopes of getting a free meal"
Article after that: "Tinder creates a "Buy me a Pizza" button so that she can "safely" proposition thirsty betas to buy her food without revealing her physical address."So sad. I guess the thirst is real. Pro-tip: save that pizza money and put it towards a trip to a country with legal pros, like the Netherlands or Germany. Every penny counts! Until then tell any tinder bloodsucker who tries to get your bucks for nothing to go to hell. If you can't find a woman, just pull up some naked lady pictures or videos, put your hand in your pants, and move it up and down in a rhythmic motion until satisfaction is achieved.
So sad. I guess the thirst is real. Pro-tip: save that pizza money and put it towards a trip to a country with legal pros, like the Netherlands or Germany. Every penny counts! Until then tell any tinder bloodsucker who tries to get your bucks for nothing to go to hell. If you can't find a woman, just pull up some naked lady pictures or videos, put your hand in your pants, and move it up and down in a rhythmic motion until satisfaction is achieved.God damn American and British "women". And to hell with god as well.
UltraHappy
05-22-15, 03:00
"Maggie Gyllenhaal was told 37 is too old to play love interest of a 55-year-old man".
http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2015/05/21/maggie-gyllenhaal-was-told-37-is-too-old-to-play-love-interest-of-a-55-year-old-man/
"Maggie Gyllenhaal was told 37 is too old to play love interest of a 55-year-old man".
http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2015/05/21/maggie-gyllenhaal-was-told-37-is-too-old-to-play-love-interest-of-a-55-year-old-man/I'm shocked and dismayed to hear about this disgusting decision. What were they thinking? Everyone knows women reach their sexual peak in their late 30's and 40's.
This is what AW's are trying to convince you is attractive. You have my sympothy.
Plus Size Super Model.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reality-youd-earn-working-plus-111800658.html#cover-e3 e109 af2404480 a4 cce37 ce0 a62 f2 ae.
This is what AW's are trying to convince you is attractive. You have my sympothy.
Plus Size Super Model.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reality-youd-earn-working-plus-111800658.html#cover-e3 e109 af2404480 a4 cce37 ce0 a62 f2 ae.There are different kinds of curvy.
There are different kinds of curvy.And you can have them.
Naked Gunz
05-30-15, 22:15
This is what AW's are trying to convince you is attractive. You have my sympothy.
Plus Size Super Model.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reality-youd-earn-working-plus-111800658.html#cover-e3 e109 af2404480 a4 cce37 ce0 a62 f2 ae.Yeah. As my many previous AW posts reflect, Madison Ave. Advertisers sell crap on TV with these advertising truths:
1. Minorities don't buy / can't sell most of these crappy products 2. Women have control of the money in 80% of American households, so the man of the house shall be portrayed as an idiot 3. The average American woman IS a size 12-22 because many are single moms trying to still have it all. That leaves no time to plan healthy meals and exercise and that isn't going to change any time soon. 4. Guilt sells, your a bad mom if you don't buy this pre-packaged shyt-in-a-box for your kids.
And you can have them.Some of them are spherical in shape, like the plus-sized, heavily tattooed, British model lady in the article. Others have larger fat deposits in strategic locations of the upper torso and posterior, giving them a more curvaceous (rather than globular) figure.
Some of them are spherical in shape, like the plus-sized, heavily tattooed, British model lady in the article. Others have larger fat deposits in strategic locations of the upper torso and posterior, giving them a more curvaceous (rather than globular) figure.Thanks for your anatomical explanation. You can still have them.
A rose by any other name is still fat as fuck.
UltraHappy
06-05-15, 16:31
American couple caught on camera engaging in some recreational activities in the wild.
http://bit.ly/1GoT3R2
Lack of GFE and the way she runs off after the deed -- so typical of American women.
Hilarious!
American couple caught on camera engaging in some recreational activities in the wild.
http://bit.ly/1GoT3R2
Lack of GFE and the way she runs off after the deed -- so typical of American women.
Naked Gunz
06-11-15, 06:38
Plus sized (22) model say's "Black guys like it". I am Black and tend to like them thick, if it is proportional! Inward curving waist, fat enhanced TnA is all good. They can also take a hip thrusted pounding well! A size twenty-two blob is a bit much for me, (and also for women when they evaluate us). I have seen some of my brothers pushing a baby cart along side a hideous fat white chick. She- a reject by her own men. He- A bro that will take ANY fat white chick just because she is white. Also skinny men seem to love big girls also. Beats me.
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/size-22-model-tess-holliday-183000992.html
Mr Enternational
06-11-15, 07:55
A bro that will take ANY fat white chick just because she is white. Also skinny men seem to love big girls also. Beats me.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IZGIBFevQPY
Plus sized (22) model say's "Black guys like it". I am Black and tend to like them thick, if it is proportional! Inward curving waist, fat enhanced TnA is all good. They can also take a hip thrusted pounding well! A size twenty-two blob is a bit much for me, (and also for women when they evaluate us). I have seen some of my brothers pushing a baby cart along side a hideous fat white chick. She- a reject by her own men. He- A bro that will take ANY fat white chick just because she is white.A very long time ago, I got sick and tired of fat women misappropriating the concept of being "thick". OK look chick. You're not thick! You're fat! Now what I like is a PAWG. Listen to the definition LOL: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pawg. Hahaha! One reason why I love Brazil so much is that it's easy to find PAWGs there. And they let you fuck them in their plump, round butts to boot! Haha! I've attached a few pics of some Brazilian PAWGs I have enjoyed during my mongering adventures in Rio. I cornholed every last single one of these PAWGs right in their butt holes. All except for Julia that is. Said she didn't do that. Well 9 out of 10 ain't bad! Hell, that's better than my overall Rio LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) of 70% hehehe!
Mexico also got lots of PAWGs believe it or not. Although, they're not as quick to give up the booty hole as the Brasilieras are LOL! Here are some Mexican PAWGs I boned while in Tijuana. Got Mia in that culito! Wasn't a great butt fuck, but it still counts in my Mexico LAA since I did penetrate her "ano" hahaha!
A very long time ago, I got sick and tired of fat women misappropriating the concept of being "thick". OK look chick. You're not thick! You're fat! Now what I like is a PAWG. Listen to the definition LOL: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pawg. Hahaha! One reason why I love Brazil so much is that it's easy to find PAWGs there. And they let you fuck them in their plump, round butts to boot! Haha! I've attached a few pics of some Brazilian PAWGs I have enjoyed during my mongering adventures in Rio. I cornholed every last single one of these PAWGs right in their butt holes. All except for Julia that is. Said she didn't do that. Well 9 out of 10 ain't bad! Hell, that's better than my overall Rio LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) of 70% hehehe!You are driving me crazy with those pictures.
You had a Ass feast.
Wow.
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/15/8784389/america-weight-gain
ITALIAN HEDGE FUNDER: 'Never, ever marry an American woman'.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/italian-hedge-funder-never-ever-144312002.html
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You got it!
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/06/19/german-man-takes-revenge-on-ex-wife-by-sawing-everything-own-in-half-selling-it/
Scroll down to bottom to see full video.
SeizeTheDay
06-27-15, 03:26
Some old story.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhU0N0m44U1cAf086E
John Gault
06-27-15, 13:37
I have to admit that pizza looks good. These guys have no pizza, and no pussy. Apparently no brains either. I will do my best to find a good slice of pizza here in Medellin, after I go balls deep in Colombia's finest. But my expectations are low, about the pizza not the pussy.If you think it is hard to find good pizza in MDE well Lima is even worse. Anyway This place is very good.
Calle 42 # 70-22 tel. 413-1920 Medellin.
Real or not, it's still fun to watch. It's the thought that counts LOL!
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/06/19/german-man-takes-revenge-on-ex-wife-by-sawing-everything-own-in-half-selling-it/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW8Fj3a-jI4
Naked Gunz
07-05-15, 17:44
This is probably more typical than not of the American married man. Read and weep for him.
http://news.yahoo.com/marriage-slovenly-wife-brings-man-close-tears-050211010.html
Is anybody shocked by this news?
Jennifer Fichter "Predator" teacher gets 22 years for sex with students.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/predator-teacher-gets-22-years-for-sex-with-students/
Is anybody shocked by this news?
Jennifer Fichter "Predator" teacher gets 22 years for sex with students.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/predator-teacher-gets-22-years-for-sex-with-students/If he is to much of a pussy to get rid of that fat nasty * he deserves what he's getting and needs to stop whining to Abby.
SavePros321
07-07-15, 13:59
Is anybody shocked by this news?
Jennifer Fichter "Predator" teacher gets 22 years for sex with students.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/predator-teacher-gets-22-years-for-sex-with-students/Good! It's about time they stop letting these broads off the hook so easily. Usually it will be some shit like the judge gave her a slap on the wrist and then she's on a talk show talking about her and the student are in love and are going to get married and have baby.
Imagine a man in the same scenario.
This is probably more typical than not of the American married man. Read and weep for him.
http://news.yahoo.com/marriage-slovenly-wife-brings-man-close-tears-050211010.htmlThat reminds of those shows on TV with couples who are thousands of dollars in debt. If you have a wife who is in the hole for $100-k, and you're financially responsible for it, her nookie is basically costing you $100-k. That is if she ever gives you bored starfish loving once every 5 months, instead of having a headache every night. Now for 100 euros you could probably bang hotter women legally in Germany.
Good! Actually in Russia and Ukraine a lot of people who support USA got shock after reading this news. Here is interesting surveys form still alive a last democratic Russian radio:
Would you sign a petition in defense of the 30-year-old teacher who got 22 years in prison for having sex with her students?
Yes 69% (32421 votes).
No 24% (11442 votes).
Don't know 7% (3460 votes).
http://echo.msk.ru/polls/1578572-echo.html
SavePros321
07-10-15, 12:39
This is probably more typical than not of the American married man. Read and weep for him.
http://news.yahoo.com/marriage-slovenly-wife-brings-man-close-tears-050211010.htmlAnd in predictable feminist bullshit fashion, ABBY blames the man, not his 300 lb free-spending pig of a wife:
"DEAR BUMMED OUT: If your wife is happy living this way, she may be right. She isn't the person with the problem -- you are. ".
Yep, it's your fault that you are the bread winner and bought that big-ass house with no help from your fat-ass wife who refuses to work.
That reminds of those shows on TV with couples who are thousands of dollars in debt. If you have a wife who is in the hole for $100-k, and you're financially responsible for it, her nookie is basically costing you $100-k. That is if she ever gives you bored starfish loving once every 5 months, instead of having a headache every night. Now for 100 euros you could probably bang hotter women legally in Germany.Yep, most guys don't know how to factor in Total Cost of Ownership when they consider marriage. You've basically bought a prostitue that you can't pay to go away (unless you pay out the ass in court, a*k*a "divorce-r3pe").
Doppelganger69
07-10-15, 13:12
Renting pussy is much cheaper in the long run than buying it. After 3 divorces, of course it had to be me could never be her fault, I have received much better service from those I paid than from any spouse. Even the worst hooker was better than any of the wives and you can change providers with no problem when you get bored with the one you are currently banging.
Just my 2 cents.
ITALIAN HEDGE FUNDER: 'Never, ever marry an American woman'.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/italian-hedge-funder-never-ever-144312002.htmlBut is it still okay to have one-night stands and vacation romances with adventurous American college girls who are spending their spring break travelling through Europe? I'm sure it is.
But is it still okay to have one-night stands and vacation romances with adventurous American college girls who are spending their spring break travelling through Europe? I'm sure it is.Of course it is. Just keep your heart out of it and all is good.
Wolvenvacht
07-22-15, 20:03
And in predictable feminist bullshit fashion, ABBY blames the man, not his 300 lb free-spending pig of a wife:
"DEAR BUMMED OUT: If your wife is happy living this way, she may be right. She isn't the person with the problem -- you are".
Yep, it's your fault that you are the bread winner and bought that big-ass house with no help from your fat-ass wife who refuses to work.
You are not being fair to Abby. She ends her advice by saying "You say you may not be able to afford a divorce, but if what's driving you to the poorhouse is your free-spending spouse, it would also be in your interest to consult an attorney to find out if it's possible to break that cycle. ".
In other words, what she really says is "Grow some balls and rather than whine for 20 years, do something about it". Quite the opposite from what you understood it seems.
In other words, what she really says is "Grow some balls and rather than whine for 20 years, do something about it". Quite the opposite from what you understood it seems.Correct but then your logic doesn't fit the sad narrative of this thread.
I can't find the original post. Someone posted a few months ago about a TV spot for lady's razors that featured 3 attractive bikini-clad lady's trimming a 'bush' that was strategically placed in front of their genitals. I saw that ad several times this past spring. I wondered how long it would play before the feminists pressured for its removal. It just occurred to me that I have not seen that ad for several weeks now. I guess its gone.
P.S. It was the TV ad for Schick Hydro Silk Trimstyle razor.
I can't find the original post. Someone posted a few months ago about a TV spot for lady's razors that featured 3 attractive bikini-clad lady's trimming a 'bush' that was strategically placed in front of their genitals. I saw that ad several times this past spring. I wondered how long it would play before the feminists pressured for its removal. It just occurred to me that I have not seen that ad for several weeks now. I guess its gone.
P.S. It was the TV ad for Schick Hydro Silk Trimstyle razor.It was on TV in Sacramento the other day. Great commercial!
I can't find the original post. Someone posted a few months ago about a TV spot for lady's razors that featured 3 attractive bikini-clad lady's trimming a 'bush' that was strategically placed in front of their genitals. I saw that ad several times this past spring. I wondered how long it would play before the feminists pressured for its removal. It just occurred to me that I have not seen that ad for several weeks now. I guess its gone.
P.S. It was the TV ad for Schick Hydro Silk Trimstyle razor.LOL! George90.
I have not seen this commercial on TV, but I found it on the internet. Thanks for bringing up this topic. It made my day.
http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7mXn/schick-hydro-silk-trimstyle-by-the-pool
FiddyCent.
Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web!
Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web!They also can get half of your retirement. I have friends who's wives are getting more of their money than they are. Western men need to wake up.
UltraHappy
08-04-15, 03:29
I'm sure we can all think of one or two good reasons for getting married.
Naked Gunz
08-04-15, 14:49
LOL! George90. I have not seen this commercial on TV, but I found it on the internet. Thanks for bringing up this topic. It made my day.
http://www.ispot.tv/ad/7mXn/schick-hydro-silk-trimstyle-by-the-poolFiddyCent.I made the original post in April, and as I predicted, it's dead (dying a slow death since Fiddy and the Cups are reporting it's on life support). I always saw it on the CW, not primetime networks. TV show producers will always push the envelope until women, conservatives and religious groups push back in this country when it comes to racy content. I am still stuck in the USA nickname (pussy jail).
The late great Patrice O'Neal explains how AW are hold you by the balls in this country in this YT clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=271gbSxVrNk.
It's long. Skip to min 26 to get to the truth as preached by Rev. O'Neal!
Big Ass Eater
08-04-15, 17:47
Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web!I've tried many times to get across what you are saying. Sure women are fun in bed, we men think about sex almost daily. But what happens is that too many men get so obsessed with women and sex that they become slaves. It's painful to see how dominant women are in social life. Men are basically nothing but side-kicks to the girls. Wherever it is, whether at the bar, at the party, at work or what have you, the social game is entirely played on the terms of the females, and the guys put up with it. The worst aspect of it all is the competition between males in order to get the hottest babes. It's a sad situation for men in this day and age.
UltraHappy
08-05-15, 00:44
So you have someone to share your cake with!
ThatGuy865
08-05-15, 17:39
Western men have choices. And we must choose very wisely! Western women are arrogant, cocky, high maintenance, disrespectful, and quick to file for divorce. And in the divorce courts it's all in the women's favor. She will get your house, your car, your money, custody of your children, and she may qualify for all kinds of government subsidy programs. So why would any western woman stay married or truly respect men? Of course they won't, and they never will under the current social regime. More than 50 percent of US marriages end up in divorce. Western men, you need to get smart about this. Do yourself a big favor and don't let yourself get caught up in the western female's dangerous, life-ruining, black widow spider of a web!I believe MOST if not ALL men ASK the women to marry them. Knowing the system. There is no trickery. Divorce laws have not changed in the last 100 years. If anything they have changed more in favor of men not less. There are men who get alimony and custody of the kids now. So it can go both ways. And women do NOT get everything. Just HALF, marriage is a partnership.
Don't get married, if you can't handle the consequences. Many men want permanent relationships. Not meaningless financially funded sex. If its not for you. So be it.
Don't get married, if you can't handle the consequences. Many men want permanent relationships. Not meaningless financially funded sex. If its not for you. So be it.Whatever you say "ThatGirl". But you see, the scam started a long, long time ago when those men were little boys and were indoctrinated (more like brainwashed). Also, you assume that the only way to have a satisfying, permanent relationship with a woman is through marriage. Again, you're just plain wrong. And by the way, why do you keep hanging around here with us guys who are interested in only meaningless, financially-funded sex? Shouldn't you be out buying an engagement ring or something? After all, every kiss begins with Kay! LOLOLOLOL!
They also can get half of your retirement. I have friends who's wives are getting more of their money than they are. Western men need to wake up.And here's the other thing. Of that 50% that stays married, they're not all happy! I'd say of that group, half of them really aren't happy together, but they stay married for whatever their own twisted reasons are. So maybe only a quarter of the marriages are successful and happy! That says to me that the odds are long when it comes to the probability of having a loving marriage that lasts. Now, I don't need folks like "ThatGirl" giving me advice on the facts of life and how I ought to deal with them. Like I've said, I know what the real deal is, and I won't allow societal brainwashing and out and out lies about "living happily ever after" and "till death do us part" lead me down a path that I know is a fraud, and that won't work for me. I'm a logical man who relies upon the facts, and those facts tell me that marriage is not a good deal for the free-thinking western man, and especially not a marriage to a western woman! And I am unanimous in that LOL!
UltraHappy
08-06-15, 01:35
I believe MOST if not ALL men ASK the women to marry them. Knowing the system. There is no trickery. Divorce laws have not changed in the last 100 years. If anything they have changed more in favor of men not less. There are men who get alimony and custody of the kids now. So it can go both ways. And women do NOT get everything. Just HALF, marriage is a partnership.
Don't get married, if you can't handle the consequences. Many men want permanent relationships. Not meaningless financially funded sex. If its not for you. So be it.Right on! And sometimes you instantly know true love the moment you see it!
Whatever you say "ThatGirl". But you see, the scam started a long, long time ago when those men were little boys and were indoctrinated (more like brainwashed). Also, you assume that the only way to have a satisfying, permanent relationship with a woman is through marriage. Again, you're just plain wrong. And by the way, why do you keep hanging around here with us guys who are interested in only meaningless, financially-funded sex? Shouldn't you be out buying an engagement ring or something? After all, every kiss begins with Kay! LOLOLOLOL!Cane That guy is here to get in touch with his inner soon to be outter woman. Why else would he be here defending a system as Biased against men as marriage and divorce.
ThatGuy865
08-06-15, 05:02
And here's the other thing. Of that 50% that stays married, they're not all happy! I'd say of that group, half of them really aren't happy together, but they stay married for whatever their own twisted reasons are. So maybe only a quarter of the marriages are successful and happy! That says to me that the odds are long when it comes to the probability of having a loving marriage that lasts. Now, I don't need folks like "ThatGirl" giving me advice on the facts of life and how I ought to deal with them. Like I've said, I know what the real deal is, and I won't allow societal brainwashing and out and out lies about "living happily ever after" and "till death do us part" lead me down a path that I know is a fraud, and that won't work for me. I'm a logical man who relies upon the facts, and those facts tell me that marriage is not a good deal for the free-thinking western man, and especially not a marriage to a western woman! And I am unanimous in that LOL!How would you know what percentage of men are happy in their marriage. I guess you are a psychic too.
Oh and many of the 50% of guys that get divorced .. get married again. But I guess they were grabbed and secretly re-brainwashed.
Its not only western men that marry. I think marriage is worldwide . I could be wrong. Hmmmm.
Maybe its a female conspiracy. They brainwash men worldwide at birth. Damn those sneaky women.
As I said. No one forces anyone to get married. If its not for you .. don't do it. .
Thatguy. Peace out.
Naked Gunz
08-06-15, 08:50
I believe MOST if not ALL men ASK the women to marry them. Knowing the system. There is no trickery. Divorce laws have not changed in the last 100 years. If anything they have changed more in favor of men not less. There are men who get alimony and custody of the kids now. So it can go both ways. And women do NOT get everything. Just HALF, marriage is a partnership.We keep singing the same old songs on this forum. So since I'm stuck in the states the only way to keep adding my post count is to bytch on this AW forum. Yes TG, I have asked for hands in marriage. Twice. Both times a total waste of my life. I didn't learn from the first time because there were no kids and it did not cost me like the second time. Percentages are surely on the woman's side TG, though some men get awarded the kids and all, but the woman must be a true slug for that to happen. Women are conditioned to cry to get their way to make you look like an asshole, and themselves ever the victim. Am not a laywer, so I can't speak to divorce law or family court. What is still sewn in the American fabric is the concept of family, love and marriage. The right wing is forever trying to elect any and all office holders to run your life with that agenda.
Whatever you say "ThatGirl". But you see, the scam started a long, long time ago when those men were little boys and were indoctrinated (more like brainwashed). Also, you assume that the only way to have a satisfying, permanent relationship with a woman is through marriage. Again, you're just plain wrong. And by the way, why do you keep hanging around here with us guys who are interested in only meaningless, financially-funded sex? Shouldn't you be out buying an engagement ring or something? After all, every kiss begins with Kay! LOLOLOLOL!We baby boomers were brain washed with the family sitcoms. Brady Bunch families that eat, play and laugh together. I sure bought into it, and wanted it, and thought family was the way to be. This mindset was beat into us on TV, at church and somewhat in school. Remember how every single mom and dad on TV was a widow, or widower? Divorce was not even mentioned. TV is in almost every home in the country, hypnotizing your brain.
Music is also in on it. There is nothing more powerful than a good song. It gets in your soul, seeps into your bones and takes over your mind. You have to have her, she is so pretty! OH, I"M IN LOVE! You have been hypnotized! (Evil laugh).
Every gift begins with Kay! Ah, and least we forget Madison Ave. We have got to separate these men from there money! Your a bad son and don't love your mama on mothers day, your wife on your anniversary, if you don't buy a gift! Listen TG, I would never try to tell a young man in love with his young sweetheart to not make a commitment to his sweet young thing. I would, however, try to warn him to go slow with important decisions and the nature of people leads to always think the grass is greener. Lastly tell the lad that we truly get sickened of each other after so many years.
ThatGuy865
08-06-15, 13:01
Cane That guy is here to get in touch with his inner soon to be outter woman. Why else would he be here defending a system as Biased against men as marriage and divorce.ThatGuy is not defending anything. I'm just stating the reality of the situation. Guys here don't want to take any responsibility for their part, its all the woman's fault.
But the reality is. Guys ask women to marry them. No one forces them. The system hasn't changed in 100 yrs so there is no excuse.
Every guy knows during divorce the woman gets half and if kids are involved the man will have a hard time getting full custody.
Its like a guy goes to Vegas, gambles and loses, then complains. It was unfair, I was tricked because the house has the odds stacked against me.
As for. "Every gift begins with Kay" . Well I got married and divorced, but. I was man enough to tell my wife we are not wasting money on a huge diamond ring.
We got simple gold wedding bands. If a guy isn't man enough to set boundaries from the start. Again that his fault. Not the woman.
Just as a woman holds the cards in divorce, a man should be man enough to hold the cards when he gets married. If the woman insist and its a financial burden on the man.
Then its HIS fault if he caves in. He started the marriage in a weak position. Men need to be men. 1st and foremost when getting married.
But I guess this is a thread for men to whine. Like old women. Sorry, I brought reality to the thread. Carry on.
TG out.
ThatGuy865
08-06-15, 13:15
We keep singing the same old songs on this forum. So since I'm stuck in the states the only way to keep adding my post count is to bytch on this AW forum. Likewise. I'm house bound for a couple of weeks. Bored. I haven't been on for quite awhile. As for baby boomers being brainwashed by family sitcoms. Correct me if I'm wrong. But. I still think Millennials are getting married.
What about other countries. What drove those men to marry. Its a human thing. I don't think there is any society that doesn't have some form of marriage.
When men fall in love, most (Not all, so don't anyone say. "not me") want to have that woman to themselves. Even Bush jungle men have a family structure.
Have a good day NG.
UltraHappy
08-06-15, 23:51
Thank you to ThatGuy for adding some balance to this otherwise "woman-hating" thread. Sure, there's plenty to "hate" about, but at the same time, ThatGuy brings up a lot of valid points as well. Nice to see some other viewpoints exchanged here for a change.
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Every guy knows during divorce the woman gets half and if kids are involved the man will have a hard time getting full custody.
...In an ideal case both contributed the same and get half. Agree.
If there are kids, they need to be supported etc. Agree.
However, benefits are better for the woman. At least to Swiss law if he makes more money. I "escaped" with a lot of luck; I cannot complain. After marriage, my ex thought she is getting a full service package and when I expected her to behave like a grown up, she found the next guy (8 months after marriage, 6 yrs. In relationship), but at the same time was looking for my money. It cost me a cheap flat.
A friend being in a relationship for ten years, married for 6, no kids: total damage of divorce was 160 k CHF. The judge even calculated the last vacations on the Maldives (15 k total, 7. 5 k for her to MAINTAIN THE STANDARD OF LIVING). So, woman might go with another guy and the ex maintains her f. Life standard. So he paid before and after.
Another friend paying an amount you could easily live with in CH. However, she has a wealthy new boyfriend and does not want to make it official, so she can get his money.
Conclusion: you are working your ass off. Making good money. Being generous. She wants better entertainment. Leaves. Has a new guy. And you continue paying. Despite kids.
For men making less money: work harder, live on the edge. She can sit at home and collects the money.
Hope that's better in the US. I prefer mongering and although sometimes overdoing it, I got sex, still have female friends (without the need of starving for sex) and still spending less.
How would you know what percentage of men are happy in their marriage. I guess you are a psychic too.
Oh and many of the 50% of guys that get divorced .. get married again. But I guess they were grabbed and secretly re-brainwashed.
Its not only western men that marry. I think marriage is worldwide . I could be wrong. Hmmmm.
Maybe its a female conspiracy. They brainwash men worldwide at birth. Damn those sneaky women.
As I said. No one forces anyone to get married. If its not for you .. don't do it. .
Thatguy. Peace out.Ha! You're the last somebody here to be criticizing somebody else about making psychic declarations. What with your magical marital contracts whereby it's specified that the man is supposed to get up and go to work and do everything to "make her happy" while the woman gets to just sit at home on her fat, shining, hind parts doing nothing but holding her hand out waiting for her "allowance" money. And those guys who get divorced and then turn right around and get married again? Well, they're just some dumb fucks who didn't learn anything the first time LOL! Oh and remember! Every time they re-marry, 50% of the time those marriages will end in divorce too hahaha! It's like compounding interest LOLOLOL! And more unhappiness and misery for the plentiful people who remain married even though the love is long gone LOL! There's zero sense in going around and around with the likes of you. A lost cause. It's done!
SavePros321
08-15-15, 04:15
Correct me if I'm wrong. But. I still think Millennials are getting married.
Just only the sucker Millennials. Everyone else seems to be catching on:
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By PETER LLOYD FOR THE DAILY MAIL.
PUBLISHED: 18:36 EST, 19 April 2015.
UPDATED: 08:26 EST, 20 April 2015.
George Clooney, Benedict Cumberbatch and Eddie Redmayne may have all taken the plunge recently but they are a diminishing band of brothers, for the number of men marrying in the West has plunged in recent decades.
The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery.
According to the Office for National Statistics, marriage in Britain is at its lowest level since 1895. In 2011, there were just 286,634 ceremonies a 41 per cent free fall from 1972, when 480,285 couples tied the knot.
For an army of women, Mr Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him. And the reason? When it comes to marriage, men are on strike.
Why? Because the rewards are far less than they used to be, while the cost and dangers it presents are far greater.
'Ultimately, men know there's a good chance they'll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and if it all goes wrong their family,' says Dr Helen Smith, author of Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood And The American Dream.
'They don't want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.
'Men aren't wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They're being smart. '.
When British businessman Alan Miller married his first wife, Melissa, in 2003, he thought it was for ever. She immediately decided to give up work, including her 85,000 salary, to become what is known as a 'Harvey Nichols wife' spending her time shopping and lunching.
When they separated just two years and nine months later, he was forced to pay her a 5 million divorce settlement, which included his 2.3 million home in Chelsea and a 2.7 million lump sum despite the fact they did not have children. That's 5,000 a day of marriage. Ker-ching!
Or take former Arsenal footballer Ray Parlour. When he wed girlfriend Karen in 1998, it all started out rosy. But by the time the relationship fell apart in 2004, the former optician's nurse didn't just get two mortgage-free houses, 38,500 in annual support for their three children and a 250,000 tax-free lump sum.
Oh no. She also got personal maintenance of 406,500 a year from her ex's future earnings. This, she said, was because she had 'encouraged' him to be a good midfielder.
This is precisely why the WAG culture rages through our country like an aggressive disease. Girls of 16 aspire to be glamorous girlfriends because it's an easy life not because they love the game or even the men playing it.
Young women who wear so much make-up they have to tip their heads back to get their eyes open are encouraged to hunt in packs until they snag a rich footballer.
Why? Because it beats getting up at 7am, doing the daily commute and actually thinking about something other than themselves.
And then, when the marriage is over, its time for the wife to make what Mayfair-based divorce lawyer Camilla Baldwin calls some real money more than the average person ever dreams of. Especially as some judges, particularly those in London, are renowned for favouring the wife in the division of assets.
So, whats a man to do? If hes determined to get married, then he must get a pre-nuptial agreement, says Baldwin. Otherwise steer clear altogether.
Be in a relationship, even live together. But dont get married. Especially if you have any prospect of making money.
American social commentator Suzanne Venker agrees. The problem with divorce settlements, she says, is women want to have their cake and eat it.
We messed with the old marriage structure and now its broken, she says. Back in the old days, stay-at-home mothers got a financial reward because child-rearing doesnt pay cash.
Now we want total independence from men, but if we divorce even without having children we expect to get alimony for ever. We cant have it both ways.
Along with the prospect of endless domestic criticism, this is why men are saying I dont rather than I do. Men need marriage like a fish needs a bicycle.
Many women have been raised to think of men as the enemy, says Venker. Its precisely this dynamic women good, men bad that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes.
After decades of browbeating, men are tired. Tired of being told theres something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women arent happy, its their fault. The rise of women has not threatened men. It has just irritated them.
But by far the most negative aspect of marriage is the likelihood of being edited out of your childrens lives if it all goes pear-shaped by a state that has relegated the role of father to its lowest point ever.
Full article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3046350/Why-men-refuse-marry-Women-complain-chaps-today-won-t-settle-Sorry-ladies-s-fault-argues-wickedly-provocative-new-book-Denigration-Men-PETER-LLOYD.html.
I wish American broads would have access to this. I wonder how the USA Compares. Hell, I won't even date American broads let alone have a relationship with them. Just for fun I keep an account on Plenty of Fish dot com (it's free) and my inbox is inundated with inquiries from fat, old, ugly whales. I keep a subscription to the site to motivate me for my next overseas trip. QUOTE=SavePros321;1760324.
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ThatGuy is not defending anything. I'm just stating the reality of the situation. Guys here don't want to take any responsibility for their part, its all the woman's fault. But the reality is. Guys ask women to marry them. No one forces them. The system hasn't changed in 100 yrs so there is no excuse.
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Just as a woman holds the cards in divorce, a man should be man enough to hold the cards when he gets married. If the woman insist and its a financial burden on the man.
Then its HIS fault if he caves in. He started the marriage in a weak position. Men need to be men. 1st and foremost when getting married.While I strongly agree with Cane, ThatGuy has made valid points in his post. We men need to have fortitude to resist marrying women who are not marriage material. We need to have the vision of the type of family life we want to define what is marriage material to us and to recognize when we see it.
In the 90's I heard some complaints in the media abut men being on a marriage strike. If that was true then some of us have learned something.
I replied before reading Savepros' post about men's marriage strike in the UK. I am very glad its spreading!
ThatGuy865
08-15-15, 16:20
While marriage is down. Its more about the binding financial contract than not wanting to be with just one woman.
I say that because the number of marriages are down. But. The number of couples living together out of wedlock has steadily increased.
There is no longer that stigma, towards women who live with a man without being married. So many couples now simply live together.
In a monogamous relationship.
And whether a guy is married or not and has kids. The situation of support does not change.
If you are a millionaire. She will get custody and receive the life style for that kid of a millionaire's kid. There are so many examples of this.
So its not that men don't want to be in a committed relationship, they simply don't want to make it financially binding.
This thread is about AW and most guys on it thinking was men didn't want to be with western women at all, which is not the case.
The institution of marriage was created when the avg life span was around 40 and people got married as young as 12. Now as medicine.
Has progressed and the avg life span is 70 to 80 marrying for a life time is not realistic. So divorce is inevitable.
But. That doesn't mean guys / women don't want to be in committed monogamous relationships.
I have always thought they should make marriages sort of like drivers licenses, but longer. Maybe the contract expires every 5 or 10 yrs.
Very few people stay the same for 50 to 60 yrs. So as people change, relationships also do.
So whether married or living together. Men are still having committed relationships. Men are just becoming serial monogamous.
One long term relationship after another. Whether thru marriage or living together.
That's really the conversation on this thread or we should change the thread to "Opinions on Marriage" . Then I'd agree with most marriage.
As it stands today. For life. Marriage is not going to last.
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SavePros321
08-15-15, 17:47
I wish American broads would have access to this. I wonder how the USA Compares. Hell, I won't even date American broads let alone have a relationship with them. Just for fun I keep an account on Plenty of Fish dot com (it's free) and my inbox is inundated with inquiries from fat, old, ugly whales. I keep a subscription to the site to motivate me for my next overseas trip. True POF story that happened to me just yesterday:
I had been talking and texting with a woman from that site all week, and quickly began to escalate the timeframe that we agree to meet up (I don't like spending too much time on the phone with women. Got too much value-add shit to do in my personal life). All we agreed on was that sometime this weekend we would meet.
Last night she asked me to come out and meet her. I already had stuff of my own going on, so I told asked her if we could meet up tomorrow (today) for coffee.
Her response: "I don't drink coffee."
I'm thinking: Shit, Starbucks has more than just coffee!
Me: "Do you drink tea? Smoothies?"
Her response: "LOL."
I then ask: "What do you suggest?"
Her: "I don't know. What's around you?"
Immediately my Spidey-senses kick in and I'm thinking: Yeah, this broad is going to want to go out to eat somewhere.
Me: "Probably the same stuff around you. What, are you wanting to meet at a restaurant or something?"
Her: "It doesn't matter."
Me: "I'm good with that so long as we are going dutch."
Then she goes silent on me. Bingo.
You see fellas, after spending a good amount of time hanging out at the Reddit thread r/TheRedPill/, I am no longer the Beta chump that I once was, which involved buying chicks dinner on our first meet up. That is the shittiest ROI for a guy in the U.S. dating game. Coffee is a safe investment. Hell, a walk in the park is an even safer investment. If she turns out to be a fatty, or gives you no indication she's be interested in anything other than your wallet, the only thing you've lost out on is time that you could have spent in the gym, or doing something hobby-related.
To agree to buy dinner for a chick you have just met is to acknowledge that you are paying for her companionship. That you are paying for the honor of having her in your company. That shit doesn't fly with me anymore. If I am going to pay for a woman's companionship, I'll hire an escort.
Anyway, I then replied to her: "Well, I have some work I brought home and will be on my laptop for the most part tomorrow, so if you want to meet then just give me a timeframe so that I know in advance."
Her: "Oh, ok."
And I imagine that's the last I'd hear from her, which is absolutely fine with me. We are not going to play the game of multiple dates with me buying you shit until you decide you might give me a peck on the cheek, LOL.
I like the photo Mr. Enternational posted of his chat conversation with a broad who said she was "Old Fashion" and believed that a man should pay for everything. To which Mr. E responded: "So I guess the game is to see how much of my money we can spend then?" (Mr. E: Please repost if you still have that pic)
Don't be a sucker for these modern-day "independent women" who still expect you to pay their way in life, especially in the online dating world. There are women on there that have dates lined up for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and then drinks at the club later that night with thirsty betas that are tripping over themselves to spend their entire paychecks on a hope that her arm might brush across their dick at some point during the date.
Spend some time on The Red Pill. There is no such thing as "I need to get to know you first." Women know if they will fuck you or not from the first time they meet you. You cannot negotiate attraction. Rule of Thumb: If you cannot get a chick to come over to your place after meeting her for the first time (either online or after meeting her in person), then you are wasting your time with that chick.
SavePros321
08-15-15, 18:10
Just would like to share with you thought-provoking articles that I come across during my traversing through the Manospehere. This one is from one of the well-know titans in the Manosphere: Rollo Tomassi.
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Iron Rule of Tomassi #3
Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.
When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to fuck you will find a way to fuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, fuck the shit out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work. Women who want to fuck will find a way to fuck. The girl who tells you she needs to be comfortable and wants a relationship first is the same girl who fucked the hot guy in the foam cannon party in Cancun on spring break just half an hour after meeting him.
If a girl is that into you she'll have sex with you regardless of ASD (Anti-$lut Defense) or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sluts, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek at the end of the night, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.
I'm probably going to ruffle a few PUA (Pick-up Artist) feathers here, but I've never been a proponent of breaking down LMR (last minute resistance) with a woman. Maybe it's a result of experiences in my rock star 20's, but at some point I came to the conclusion that sex with a woman who's turned on by me is always a far better than one where I had to sell her on the idea of sex with me before the act. Now don't take this to the binary extreme and assume I mean the only good sex you'll ever have is a first night lay (FNL) with some tart who can't keep her legs closed. What I mean is that if you're still trying to figure out what the magic words are to convince some girl that she ought fuck you after 3 dates or longer you're in desire negotiation hearings counselor. You are wasting your time and limiting your opportunity with better prospective women in waiting out a woman who would defer less than 100% of her real desire to have sex with you. The sex will NEVER be worth the wait. A prostitute would be a better alternative.
Genuine desire cannot be negotiated. Once you get past a certain point in the waiting game, what once had the chance to be an organic, sexual desire becomes mitigated negotiation of a physical act. Just the fact that you're having to make a case for yourself (even covertly) is evidence that there are other factors inhibiting her capacity to be sexual with you. As I stated, barring a physical inability, this is almost always because of an unmentioned agenda on her part. It may be due to a concurrent boyfriend, it may be a natural internal caution, it may be that your process is telegraphing 'beta' to her, or it may be that she's filibustering you while waiting to see if another, more preferable guy pans out for her, however, none of these are insurmountable if she has a genuine desire to bang you. Many a cheated on boyfriend knows this is true. In any circumstance, sex with you is not an urgency for her. If she's perceiving your value as as high as it should be, she won't hesitate longer than a few dates to become sexual and she certainly won't tell you she's making you wait. Hypergamy doesn't afford a woman much waiting time with a Man she sees as superior stock.
One of the more frustrating situations I often encounter comes from guys who've been OVERTLY told that they're being made to wait for sex until some circumstance or criteria is met for the woman. The standard filibuster (or loss-leader as the case may be) usually comes with the reasoning that she "needs to feel comfortable" before she has sex with a guy. Even more distressing is the guy who was getting laid, only to be told the same thing by an existing girlfriend. If you find yourself in either of these situation there are a couple of things to bear in mind.
First and foremost, sex, by it's nature is uncomfortable. Sex that is motivated by mutual, genuine desire is a tense affair, fueled by testosterone, anxiety and urgency. When two people get together for a first dance (a precursor to copulation), it's rarely if ever an intimate slow dance. It's salsa, it's grinding, it's pumping, it's heat and it's sweat. What it's not is comforting and familiar. It's not a nice warm bathrobe fresh out of the dryer. Don't take this the wrong way, but sex is threatening. It needs to be, and you need to be considered a sexualized player in her personal sphere. Overtly agreeing to wait for her to become sexual is anti-seductive. It confirms for her that you aren't a sexualized player to her; an Alpha wouldn't wait for sex and she knows this. Worse still, it devalues her SMV as being worth less than of your utmost urgency.
Secondly, always remember why women resort to OVERT communications (the language of men) so there is no, or less, margin that her message will be misunderstood. If a woman, point blank says, "I'm not having sex with you until X,why, and Z happens", what is her MEDIUM telling you? That there is a precondition that's more important to her than fucking you with genuine, uncontrollable passion. You want her to be so into you that she's willing to break the rules. The ideal situation is for her genuine passion to be so uncontrollable for you that she'the renounce her religion and throw her convictions to the wind to be with you. That might seem a bit dramatic, but you get the idea. The good news now is that she's being overt, which means she's exhausted her reserves to be covert and, assuming you're not so desperate as to delude yourself, you can NEXT her and move on.
Rapport ≠ Comfort.
A lot of "waiters" find all that a tough road to hoe. They want to stick it out and see if things "might develop", and NEXTing their 'waiting girl' seems a lot like throwing the baby out with the bath water after all the time they've invested in building what they think is rapport. Usually this is due to the guy not spinning (enough) other plates that would bear more fruit. However, keep this in mind; waiting for sex isn't building rapport. There's a lot of confusion about rapport, most of which is due to well meaning PUAs conflating rapport with comfort. It's a pretty esoteric term, but rapport is a connection; it's an implied trust between two acting agents who previously had never met or only have limited knowledge of each other. You can have rapport with an animal that's the connection, it's instinctual.
Comfort comes from familiarity and predictability; all decidedly anti-seductive influences. And while comfort has it's own merits in interpersonal relationships, it is not the basis for genuine, passionate sexual desire. For people (myself included) involved in a marriage or LTR, it's serves our long-term best interest to convince ourselves that sex is better when your comfortable with your partner, however, the reality of it sings a different tune. Here's an easy illustration: As reported by both men and women alike, which of these circumstances provokes the most intense, memorable sexual experiences? When a couple plans and arranges a romantic "date night" to 'keep it fresh' and reconnect? Or is it the 'make-up sex' after a horrible breakup, or narrowly averted breakup, where long dormant competition anxiety is brought back into being a very real possibility again? If you said the breakup, you're correct! One scenario is comfortable, the other uncomfortable. One has the element of predictable certainty, the other is chaotic and uncertain, however in both situations there is definitely a working mutually connective rapport operating.
http://therationalmale.com/2011/09/23/wait-for-it/
SavePros321
08-15-15, 18:39
This article was up-voted 696 times and is certified TRP (The Red Pill) Gold:
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Never sacrifice a thing. Make her sacrifice for you.
By Archwinger (TRP)
Disney, popular culture, and modern feminism foster a viewpoint that having a woman in your life is a great reward. The modern story goes that a regular guy is supposed to pursue a fairly average girl, she probably rejects him a few times at first, but he keeps himself present in her life, is a great guy, does things for her, and demonstrates how much he can benefit her and how in love he is and willing to sacrifice for her, and she eventually agrees to be his girlfriend. The fact that she agreed to be a part of his life is his reward. He had to jump through hoops to earn it, and he needs to go out of his way and do everything he can to keep her happy so she stays with him, because having her in his life is his reward. A man should be grateful to have a girlfriend at all, because if you don't have a girlfriend, you're a loser.
A girlfriend's not really required to do anything. You're not supposed to make her buy you things, clean your apartment, cook your meals, or insist that she have sex with you. You're not entitled to any of that just because she's your girlfriend. She does those things if and when she wants to. Your reward is that she's willing to be your girlfriend. Not any of those things you'the think a girlfriend might do for you. Just having her in your life is the reward. A woman spending time in your presence is the greatest thing ever. Forget that spending time in your presence usually involves giving you one-word responses to anything you ask while not looking up from her cell phone, because she's too busy doing something on Facebook. That's more than those losers who don't have girlfriends at all are getting.
Meanwhile, to keep your girlfriend, you have to keep her happy, entertained, and feeling special. That's a girlfriend's biggest complaint by the way: he never makes me feel special. You have to plan and execute an entertaining date at least once a week, buy her gifts, be smart and funny and at the top of your game, complement her often, and if you successfully make it through enough of her hoops, she might let you hold her hand for a little bit, or even give you a goodnight kiss. Keep up this great behavior long enough and maybe, just maybe, you guys can take it to the next level and she'll reward you with sex! But even if you never get there, it's a great reward just to have a girlfriend at all. Guys who don't have girlfriends are losers.
And that's how the others would prefer the game is played. Jump through hoops, do what you're supposed to do, be entertaining for girls, sacrifice left and right giving them whatever they want in a desperate attempt to make them happy, as the bare minimum just to get a woman to spend time with you. Forget sex. Just having a woman in your life is considered a great prize for which you must sacrifice heavily. A man should be lucky he had a woman agree to this! A woman who will put up with him? That's a rare find! He'the better work hard to keep her happy.
We know how this story ends. A man who spends his life searching for a woman he can sacrifice for ends up getting his wish. He sacrifices everything and becomes an empty shell, all for the joy of having a woman grudgingly spend time with him, hoping that maybe, just maybe, if he sacrifices a little bit more and works a little bit harder, she might even let him touch her. Oh, sure, that guy is still screening women somewhat. He won't date just anybody. But his perspective is that of the supplicant. He's searching the world for a woman he wants to work for. A woman worthy of his hard work and sacrifice, so that he may give it to her, impress her with it, and maybe one day get to hold her hand.
That's the true measure of love. How much you're willing to sacrifice for someone. And men across the world leap at the chance to demonstrate their love for their women by sacrificing.
But wait. If the true measure of love is how much someone is willing to sacrifice for someone else, what's up with all of these women who aren't doing a damn thing, except spending time with their men? Surely, a woman's love is measured differently then, right? We don't ask a woman to sacrifice. It's her willingness to accept a man's sacrifice that demonstrates her love, right?
Wrong. Women show their love the same damn way. When a woman loves a man, she sacrifices for him. She does things for him. She buys him things. She begs to fuck him.
If your woman is not sacrificing for you, eagerly, in an attempt to please you, impress you, and keep you happy, guess who doesn't love you?
The Red Pill is a shift in our perspective. Cast off the old system. The goal is not to find a woman worth sacrificing for. That's the old you. The loser you. The goal is to find a woman who will sacrifice for you. And to do this, you become the kind of man women will want to sacrifice for. You're not searching for the right woman. You're searching for the right you.
If you build the right you, women will be bending over backward trying to please you, just for the pleasure of your time, and maybe, just maybe, you can reward the best few whose sacrifices please you the most with a good, hard fucking.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/31mtcd/never_sacrifice_a_thing_make_her_sacrifice_for_you/?
SavePros321
08-15-15, 18:58
This post is basically the foundation of ISG and how we found ourselves here in this forum:
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Why you should fuck an escort, at least once
By NPIF (TRP)
One of the greatest challenges to newcomers still swallowing the pill is the realization that women are not delicate creatures that need protecting. The propaganda has been strong. Constant - unending. That women are damsels in distress; that they need us to protect them; and that being the white knight in shining armour will grant us their love and adoration.
It's a dream we're fed since the time we are children to the days of our adulthood. Rom-coms will tell us the nice, funny, charming guy will always get the girl. Our female friends will reassure us that "women want a nice guy", or that "you just haven't met the right girl yet." It's an agonizing pain of involuntary lovelessness. The beta mindset continuously fed by re-application of tired and useless techniques. "Maybe if I do this for her" eventually becomes "Why doesn't she love me?"
And then you discover the pill. You don't want to believe it but something tells you there's truth here. That if women do want the nice guy, why are they so duplicitous with their behaviour? Why do they chase the rich guys, the stud guys, the bad boys who treat them like shit? Because they get something out of the relationship. This is the key to understanding a woman's actions. There is always an exchange of some kind, because her love does not come free. You must play a role; provide a purpose, for her presence.
If you're rich, you provide financial satisfaction. If she fucks you, you'll buy her shit. If you'are athletic and / or attractive in any way relating to social SMV, you provide her an image boost. She is with a hot guy.
Providing for her desires. Her satisfaction. All the things you need to give her or do for her which suck away your time, energy, and money. These are the reasons you may idolize the pussy. Because you have to put so much fucking work into getting it.
Now take all of this away.
What if you didn't have to do any of that work? Didn't have to focus on a woman's needs or desires at all, and still get what you want from her? What if you had the choice of what girl to fuck? How to fuck? What if you had complete control over a sexual interaction without having to do a fucking thing for a b!tch once in your life?
I'll tell you what happens. You take the pussy off the fucking pedestal. Because now you know that pussy is worth about $100, and you can literally get it any time you want from hotter bitches than the one you're chatting up right now in the bar.
Now I'm not advocating giving up on learning game and how to meet and pick up women organically. In fact, you should do that infinitely more often than you should fuck escorts. But every now and then, maybe just as a reminder when the oneitis creeps in, or the beta starts to resurface, you fuck a ***** who you don't have to call the next day. Just as a reminder that pussy is cheap and plentiful. So that makes you the prize that's worth winning.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2lxgp5/why_you_should_fuck_an_escort_at_least_once/?
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1760591 Ya, I know what you mean. Ten years or so ago I dated an AW who told me I should ADORE her. And she was SERIOUS. We dated on and off for two years only because I was addicted to her humongous tits. These days I just p4 p. It's a lot cheaper and not emotionally draining.
SavePros321
08-15-15, 21:51
See attached photos of the conversation below (my responses are in blue). Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. "Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!"
UltraHappy
08-15-15, 22:42
See attached photos of the conversation below (my responses are in blue). Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. "Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!"So, the suspense is killing us. How did the rest of the conversation go? What did she say next?
AZN Monger
08-15-15, 23:11
See attached photos of the conversation below (my responses are in blue). Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. "Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!"American women have a bad rep, especially if you compare them worldwide. However, I think we should be careful trying to agree amongst ourselves. After all, this forum doesn't contain a diverse demographic.
I have lived, worked and vacationed in many countries. However shitty the ROI, most women would feel the same way in splitting a check. Most men wouldn't let the women split the check.
You want a prostitute, then you pay for their time fucking you. You want a relationship, then ROI doesn't apply. Believe it or not, not everyone is jaded, not everyone is bad. Your sole aim is not sex in a relationship. Her sole aim is not money in relationship.
I find it funny that a lot of members complain American women are fat and ugly when they don't look at themselves in the mirror. Most men are as heavy or heavier, but yet somehow think they all deserve a supermodel. I'm not defending our women, I find the majority of them not attractive. Let's just be able to separate and make the distinction between women we pay to fulfill our desires and women we want to pursue a real meaningful relationship with. I'm afraid a lot of us are mired and blend the two together (or too jaded to see it).
Monger on.
American women have a bad rep, especially if you compare them worldwide. However, I think we should be careful trying to agree amongst ourselves. After all, this forum doesn't contain a diverse demographic.
I have lived, worked and vacationed in many countries. However shitty the ROI, most women would feel the same way in splitting a check. Most men wouldn't let the women split the check.
You want a prostitute, then you pay for their time fucking you. You want a relationship, then ROI doesn't apply. Believe it or not, not everyone is jaded, not everyone is bad. Your sole aim is not sex in a relationship. Her sole aim is not money in relationship.
I find it funny that a lot of members complain American women are fat and ugly when they don't look at themselves in the mirror. Most men are as heavy or heavier, but yet somehow think they all deserve a supermodel. I'm not defending our women, I find the majority of them not attractive. Let's just be able to separate and make the distinction between women we pay to fulfill our desires and women we want to pursue a real meaningful relationship with. I'm afraid a lot of us are mired and blend the two together (or too jaded to see it).
Monger on.American Women have the rep that they earned. I personnally don't find a 50 something fat chick with a I'm a queen complex attractive, regardless of my weight or age.
But if you feel differently good. Grab you one, settle down and you will never have to monger again. Even when her fat ass refuses to fuck you for whatever stupid reason, remember to be understanding.
AZN Monger
08-16-15, 02:06
American Women have the rep that they earned. I personnally don't find a 50 something fat chick with a I'm a queen complex attractive, regardless of my weight or age.
But if you feel differently good. Grab you one, settle down and you will never have to monger again. Even when her fat ass refuses to fuck you for whatever stupid reason, remember to be understanding.You misread my message.
I never said I would find a woman with that description attractive. Do you think an 18 year old finds a mid-50's overweight man attractive? I don't know what your point is.
SavePros321
08-16-15, 02:18
I'm not defending our women, I find the majority of them not attractive. Let's just be able to separate and make the distinction between women we pay to fulfill our desires and women we want to pursue a real meaningful relationship with. I'm afraid a lot of us are mired and blend the two together (or too jaded to see it).I make it absolutely clear in my online profile that I am not looking for anything serious. Just someone to have fun with. None of these broads are relationship material and useful to me beyond a pump and dump.
It's really simple: men want sex from women; women want commitment from men. Women will trade sex for commitment and men will trade commitment for sex. It's the core of our being.
And no one here was talking about "women we pay", so not sure how you assume we have confused the two.
You misread my message.
I never said I would find a woman with that description attractive. Do you think an 18 year old finds a mid-50's overweight man attractive? I don't know what your point is.My point is they have a bad rep because they earned it and if defending them is so important to you, you should get you one and live happily ever after.
By the way. I don't care what some 18 yr old thinks so long as she will fuck my brains out. That's all I would want from her anyway.
Just goes to show you how entitled this AW broads feel. She clearly was insulted that I suggest we go dutch, but I swatted away her shit tests like Dikembe Mutombo. Ah, ah, ah, not in my house bish!
Wow, another "tough guy" who can't get laid without dead presidents. Your in the right thread.
SeizeTheDay
08-18-15, 00:03
Wow, another "tough guy" who can't get laid without dead presidents. Your in the right thread.Paying to get laid is the exact opposite of the situation he explained. The woman was "turned off" because he refused to pay for her. Savepros made it clear that they could meet and if they had sex it would be because of mutual attraction not because he spent money. You either can not read, do not speak English, or you like to imagine things the way you want them to be, to compensate for being a white knight.
Paying to get laid is the exact opposite of the situation he explained. The woman was "turned off" because he refused to pay for her. Savepros made it clear that they could meet and if they had sex it would be because of mutual attraction not because he spent money. You either can not read, do not speak English, or you like to imagine things the way you want them to be, to compensate for being a white knight.He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.
ThatGuy865
08-18-15, 01:33
He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.There is a huge difference between taking someone out on a date and P4P. Most do not consider spending $20 to have company while dinning paying for sex. And yes for a 1st date, you can spend only $20. Make it a lunch date, Go to a place like Friday's, Chi chi's, there are many places w / under $20 meals. Hell meet at a coffee shop and spend less than $10. You are paying for their company and conversation.
Using that logic when guys buy beers for buddies. It should be considered buying friendships. But you don't hear guys saying that. But P4P guys always have to go with theoretical logic to justify their need to out right pay for sex. Only they say that same old tired line. You pay for sex one way or another. Its a silly notion used to justify P4P. Save-a-Pro has an approach, his choice. He doesn't want to spend any money on a date, But to say it would have been paying for sex is ridiculous, it's paying to have company at a meal. I'm sure eventually he'll find a woman that will go for that approach. If he feels stroking with his hand in the mean time is a better option. I'm happy for him. I don't think he'll convince many outside of the few AW haters on this thread, that's a better option though.
There is a huge difference between taking someone out on a date and P4P. Most do not consider spending $20 to have company while dinning paying for sex. And yes for a 1st date, you can spend only $20. Make it a lunch date, Go to a place like Friday's, Chi chi's, there are many places w / under $20 meals. Hell meet at a coffee shop and spend less than $10. You are paying for their company and conversation.
Using that logic when guys buy beers for buddies. It should be considered buying friendships. But you don't hear guys saying that. But P4P guys always have to go with theoretical logic to justify their need to out right pay for sex. Only they say that same old tired line. You pay for sex one way or another. Its a silly notion used to justify P4P. Save-a-Pro has an approach, his choice. He doesn't want to spend any money on a date, But to say it would have been paying for sex is ridiculous, it's paying to have company at a meal. I'm sure eventually he'll find a woman that will go for that approach. If he feels stroking with his hand in the mean time is a better option. I'm happy for him. I don't think he'll convince many outside of the few AW haters on this thread, that's a better option though.What you don't get is why do you have to pay anything if they like you. Especially since most men and women don't stop at coffee date. It goes to dinner amd more.
I have come to the conclusion that you are either female, Gay or worse a feminist man. All is ok with me but I still don't understand why you are here. I am headed back to Thailand in a few weeks. Luckily I don't have to live here in the USA. If you are ever there drop me a message. I may say lets have a drink or I may say go fuck yourself. Either way as a man you should be used to the rejection. But here right now I will let you have the last word because the three species I mentioned always wants it.
Enjoy the life.
Tell.
ThatGuy865
08-23-15, 04:04
What you don't get is why do you have to pay anything if they like you. For a woman, liking a guy and wanting to fuck him are two different things. Most women do not want to fuck a guy upon the 1st meeting unless he's a Brad Pitt model type or undeniably Rich. Women know they can get dick anywhere, anytime. There are guys that will fuck anything so for a woman they have the advantage of limiting who they fuck to only those they really have some type of feelings. Therefore they want at least time to make that assessment. 20 yr old don't expect dinner because they know guys their age don't have funds. But a woman wants to see what type of man they are dealing with. Why should a woman fuck a poor, broke ass man when she can just as easily find one w / a job. Especially if he isn't a 10. Now if you're a 10 then I can see you complaining. But if you're just avg why should she just fuck you at sight, when she can get avg dick all day long. Women have that advantage. What makes you special. That's reality. Deal with it.
ThatGuy865
08-23-15, 04:11
After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week.
Well, good luck with THAT, ThatGuy. You and the POF (putrid old fuck) blimpie are probably made for each other. Make sure you watch some chick flick and be prepared to have her cut your balls off.
After reading this thread I actually tried POF. It's a gold mine. Immediately got responses. Met one for an afternoon date at Chilli's. Set me back a whole $11.95 . A few more phone calls and she comes over. Drank some wine a little cheese and crackers. Bam. She was on the dickhead like a mouse on cheese. Sunday she's coming over for DVD, popcorn w / some dick for dessert. How was your week..
It's settled. ThatGuy is a chick. Only chicks talk like that.
The jig is up, ThatGurl865. Stop trolling us and go back to Pop Sugar or some shit.That's certainly my suspicion too. Thus, I started in with the "ThatGirl" moniker. There have been many things posted here by this person that lead me to strongly suspect it's a woman with nothing better to do with her time than trolling mongers.
Chocha Monger
08-23-15, 18:53
The belief that men and women are equal is incompatible with the idea that a man must pay for a woman's meals and entertainment on a date. If the woman expects compensation in the form of free meals, drinks and entertainment in return for showing up to evaluate if the man is worth fucking, that means she considers the man to have less intrinsic value based solely on his gender. They're not coming to the tables as equals and the man is a supplicant pleading his case as to why he should get some pussy. He is paying for his own job interview with the woman so she can decide if she will make him pay much more. She has her list of qualifications he must meet like wealth, education, nice car, house, etc. The truth is that a woman like that isn't interested in men. She is interested in what resources they can offer her in return for pussy access. In that case, the man would be better off cutting out the overhead of a date and going straight to negotiating the price of her pussy.
In Sweden, gender equality is not just preached. It's practiced. An American woman dating in Sweden would hate it because Swedish men would not be picking up the bill for her meals, drinks and entertainment. They're also not big on asking for a woman's number or calling her up after a night of hot stank fucking to soothe her insecurities on where things are going, or not going.
American women pay lip service to the idea of gender equality. In reality, they want to be above men in relationships. This is the real reason they say that men and women are equal but still expect the man to pick up their bill and follow the rules of ancient chivalry. The truth is most of these women cannot past the same financial scrutiny they apply to men. Their finances are a mess and they're debt ridden from spending more than they earn. It's no secret that women account for most of the spending on consumer goods in America.
Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.
Naked Gunz
08-24-15, 19:24
Some guys will still choose to participate in this ridiculous dating system. After all, people do things that they know are bad for them like smoking, drinking alcohol or snorting cocaine. As for Plenty-of-Fish, I know a coworker making over six figures who is a member. He would recount his dates to me back at the office. They all involved low quality women using him for free meals, drinks and entertainment. He never got any pussy. In fact, the only thing that got banged one night was the rental car. One of his POF dates had a jealous ex-husband who kicked in the back panel.They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men. They stick to the script. I cringe when I hear them talk about obeying the wife, and giving all the check to her. They buy into the Christian right dogma of love the flag, mom and apple pie. This shit is constantly on TV. The fake fluff being broadcast in every home has shaped this mindset. TV shows of pussy whipped family men (Mike and Molly, Loves Raymond), commercials selling products to women by showing a man as incapable of doing anything).
Ya, it's true. I am from there and don't dare say anything to my married relatives about my exploits and lifestyle. It would surely cause divorce and alienation from me. [QUOTE=Naked Gunz They don't have a clue as to what's really on the other side of the oceans and borders. Especially Midwest men.
Mr Enternational
08-26-15, 19:53
That is SavePros at 3:03...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mrI1QWWgzk
He's also misguided enough to believe that he isn't paying for it one way or another.
I say that because if he's getting so much free ass, wtf is he doing here.When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.
I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.
I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.
Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.
Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.
We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.
Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.
If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.
Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.
I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.
If you want sex, you're paying.
The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?
When it comes to AM discussions you seem to get caught up a little in your own head. Your posts in the Patts thread, to me, seem much clearer.
I monger for maybe one of the oldest reasons and one that, as a full time monger, you know well. I pay them to leave.
I have no problem getting AM. I've been a sex addict all my life (and that's not changing anytime soon) and that's the mission if you're an addict. To get sex. Period.
Now, do I pay? Por supuesto! Everybody pays! A 9 dollar lunch is paying. Most people don't think of it that way and most men slough off the minor stuff but to the guy who doesn't have $9, its paying. Same as handing her pesos in Panama.
Sitting across from her holding a fake smile and remembering to laugh occasionally when your bored out of your fuking mind is paying. Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. Just with patience or time, etc.
We all pay somehow. Movie stars pay. Sure they get a lot of free sex but eventually the halo wears off and she wants more. Time to pay (with emotions, time, etc) or leave and its not always to extract yourself and somehow, someway you always pay.
Consider the old expression "show me a beautiful woman and somewhere there's a guy who's tired of fucking her". He's paying 'cause now he's stuck.
If you want to get laid you do what you have to. Period. You buy meals, call when you're supposed to and do all the other stupid shit required to get sex. It hasn't changed in 100 years. Men have always paid. Get over it.
Now, if this discussion is about what should be or what you want it to be or in this or that country or times past then that's a different discussion.
I still bang AM but I have money and now that I'm slightly older I have much less patience and value my time more and more so I pay in dollars more often than ever.
If you want sex, you're paying.
The difference is, just like the river doesn't complain about the rocks in its way, I don't whine about it. I get it done because after all we need the sex, no?Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.
I am not a sex addict like you so I am not driven by impulse. I just like young women other than AW's. I have money also and like you my time is more important to me. I could play the dating game but choose not to.
Since I am forced to pay for what I should be getting for free, I choose to do it on my own terms.
You enyoy your addiction, feed it and pay for it the way you see fit. I choose not to spend my time sitting across from some cow pretending she's interesting to get layed.
I'd rather spend the money for a hottie and be done with it.
You also made my point, there is no such thing as free.
Both my heads are fine as is what's in them, thank You.Impulse? I am anything but impulsive. And who are these cows you speak of? I've never fucked a cow. My AM are mostly the same as the Latins. Check my pics. And wouldn't you even concede that some might consider flying to third world or "developing countries", for no other reason but sex with young girls, an addiction?
And do you think you were the one who figured out it ain't free?
ThatGuy865
08-27-15, 02:11
Having to swap texts, phone calls, listening to sick cat stories. All paying. So I ask you then. When you talk with your guy friends. Are you paying to sit and talk w / guys. By your logic you guys are paying to read my text. Thanks by the way. Everything requires "time" so the word "Free" should not exist by your logic since it can never be achieved. It takes time to breath air. This is what I mean by a P4P person needing / using obscure abstract logic to justify their need to pay for sex. So a groupie give a rock star a quickie in the bathroom. He jumps on the tour bus, drives off never to see her again. Some how he paid uh? P4 P guys who spill this jiberish need to stroke their low self esteem to so they can think everyone has to pay.
SavePros321
08-27-15, 03:17
That is SavePros at 3:03...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2mrI1QWWgzkExcept she wouldn't be in my car to begin with, hahaha. Not on a first date. Unless we already agreed that we are going back to my place and I am smashing that. At that point I'm good for getting her some grub on my dime. Wouldn't want her hunger getting in the way of her performance! 😝.
Impulse? I am anything but impulsive. And who are these cows you speak of? I've never fucked a cow. My AM are mostly the same as the Latins. Check my pics. And wouldn't you even concede that some might consider flying to third world or "developing countries", for no other reason but sex with young girls, an addiction?
And do you think you were the one who figured out it ain't free?Sorry but I have known a lot of addicts and all of them would act impusively to feed their need. Be it Crack, Meth or Sex. But if you say you're different, that is between you and you Shrink.
I don't fly there just for the young women, I live there part time and have many other interest. Interest I have more time for since I don't have to play the dating game anymore.
Never said I was the one who figured it out that it wasn't free. Guys long before me figured that out. Thus our hobby.
Glad you are getting some hot women. I feel all men deserve that.
On a final note, I have a favor to ask?
Since the jig is up and we have figured out that ThatGurl865 is a woman, I would ask that you make contact with her and lay some pipe on her. That is one woman that is in dire need of a good fucking. Maybe afterwards she can stop lurking our board and do something constructive like sell Mary Kay.
Look at it as taking one for the team. You being a Sex Addict, any hole is a hole right? LOL.
Talk at you later.
Tell.
On a final note, I have a favor to ask?
Since the jig is up and we have figured out that ThatGurl865 is a woman, I would ask that you make contact with her and lay some pipe on her. That is one woman that is in dire need of a good fucking. Maybe afterwards she can stop lurking our board and do something constructive like sell Mary Kay.
Look at it as taking one for the team. You being a Sex Addict, any hole is a hole right? LOL.
Tell.And sadly, that's exactly the unintelligent level of discourse we've come to expect from you and which contributes to undermine this thread.
A few days ago I read a couple of article in the Washington Post about dating in the US. The author were reporting on some research done by someone (academics I think) regarding the demographics of college-educated men and women versus non-college-educated men and women. It is well-known that since the 1970's women have been attending and graduating from college in greater numbers than men. (There is sound logic for this.) Over the decades this has lead to a marked difference in the ratio of college-educated men to college-educated women. So based on the premise that women will never "marry down", the authors discuss how college-educated women behave when faced with a shortage of "suitable" men and faced with more intense competition for "suitable" men.
They looked at college campuses and compared colleges with a high ratio of women (57%) to those campuses with a lower ratio of women. They found that when there were more women, and therefore greater competition for men, women gave up sex faster and easier, referred to as a "hook-up culture". When there were fewer women, and therefore less competition for men, women played hard to get, referred to as a "romantic culture".
How many of us are college grads and have seen this type of behavior? For those who live outside the US, do you observe this in your countries?
I am a college grad and I have seen this. Women with college degrees throwing themselves at certain professional men and ignoring blue collar types. Though I am pretty sure these were marriage prospects and not casual sex partners.
Mr Enternational
08-29-15, 18:52
I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.
I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.People with specific skills are needed on a day to day basis (mechanic computer tech chef medical technicians etc.). An MBA is worthless unless YOU make into something by coming up with a business idea or network with the right people.
America needs to bring back trade schools.
I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.
SavePros321
08-29-15, 20:38
I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.You need to read "The Millionaire Next Door" my friend.
SavePros321
08-29-15, 21:47
I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.
I am a college grad and I have seen this. Women with college degrees throwing themselves at certain professional men and ignoring blue collar types. Though I am pretty sure these were marriage prospects and not casual sex partners.What you are witnessing is female Hypergamy and the 80/20 rule in effect. It states that 20% of the top men are fucking 80% of the women.
That is why visiting another country where our money goes further is attractive for the average Joe Schmuck Western male. You instantly go from "Donald Chump" to "Donald mutha-fuckin Trump" and are catapulted to the 20% top earner range in said country (ex. Dominican Republic, Philippines, etc.).
In America, anything less than $100 K / yr, hell, anything less than $400 K / yr is average to an American woman. They all want the NBA Ball Player, Doctor, Hollywood Actor, etc. , especially college educated women making greater than even $35 K / yr. A 6 female thinks she deserves a 10 male.
Here is an interesting post on TRP that delves further into the 80/20 rule and female Hypergamy:
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Women look at the top 20 percent of males and believe that everything about them is normal and fairly attainable for the other 80 percent of men. This seriously skews their perception of males and it skews their perception of what they should expect when dating.
This explains those "where have all the good men gone" articles.
The "good men" are where they always have been: outside of the top 20 percent of men. Now, I don't mean to say that the "good men" cannot be found in the top 20 percent but rather that these "good men" (in the female mind) constitute men who are willing to commit to women both financially and / or romantically and are not top 20 percent men who have a rotating harem of women engaging in sexual relations with them. These women cannot seem to get these top 20 percenters to commit to anything other than sex with them which makes them throw their hands up and ask "Where have all the good men gone? If they are not frustrated over a lack of sexual and / or romantic commitment then they get frustrated over the 80 percent of men whom they do not find desirable sexually, who won't "get their shit together" and "man up" (this translates to 'make good money and marry me in my thirties') and then they find themselves stuck between the rock and a hard place that is being a top 20 percenter's booty call / mistress or being the taken care of wife of an 80 percenter who cannot make them as sexually aroused as a 20 percenter can.
What this situation tends to lead to is a situation where these frustrated women would rather be a part of what is known as a "soft harem" in which multiple women are having sex with one top 20 percent man while either abstaining from relationships of any sort with 80 percent men, having sex with both 20 and 80 percent men with only the former being aware of this, or being in a poor or non-sexual relationship with an 80 percent man while being sexually active with a 20 percent man without the former knowing about it. The idea of women preferring to share a top 20 percent man without commitment rather than devoting themselves sexually to an 80 percent man was discussed in writer Kate Bolick's (featured in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, Elle Magazine, etc.) very well-known and discussed article titled All The Single Ladies in The Atlantic magazine. The article is a very good read and the relevant passage regarding the "soft harem" is below. The idea of the "soft harem" was actually an idea developed by a former female management consultant who spoke to Bolick about female sexuality and modern day dating / relationships concerning young women.
Last year, a former management consultant named Susan Walsh tried to dig a little deeper. She applied what economists call the Pareto principlethe idea that for many events, roughly 20 percent of the causes create 80 percent of the effects to the college dating market, and concluded that only 20 percent of the men (those considered to have the highest status) are having 80 percent of the sex, with only 20 percent of the women (those with the greatest sexual willingness); the remaining 80 percent, male and female, sit out the hookup dance altogether. (Surprisingly, a 2007 study commissioned by the Justice Department suggested that male virgins outnumber female virgins on campus.) As Walsh puts it, most of the leftover men are "have nots" in terms of access to sex, and most of the women, both those who are hooking up and those who are not, are "have nots" in terms of access to male attention that leads to commitment.
Link to post: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2u8hr5/the_following_comment_was_upvoted_to_1000_in/?.
I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.All the more reason to kiss the Ass of the Wright Brothers for creating the airplane.
Wheels up in 17 days.
Ya but you still manage to get around, Mr. E.
I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke..
If you check the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics you will learn that the higher the degree the more money you are likely to make. Of course, there are many exceptions. But to have TIME OFF plus decent income now that is a winning combination!
People with specific skills are needed on a day to day basis (mechanic computer tech chef medical technicians etc.). An MBA is worthless unless YOU make into something by coming up with a business idea or network with the right people.
America needs to bring back trade schools..
If you check the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics you will learn that the higher the degree the more money you are likely to make. Of course, there are many exceptions. But to have TIME OFF plus decent income now that is a winning combination!
.Hence the profession we both chose, which must remain secret.
Naked Gunz
08-30-15, 05:39
I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.I bounce back and forth between contracting overseas and merchant mariner. No degree! Both very lucrative with tons of time off and I NEVER come back to the states. Why the phuck for? Divorced, grown kid, and all my shyte in storage. Bang hotties half my age. I am stuck in PNW temporarily for school, but get back to the fun later.
I don't get it. My cousin has his own plumbing business and my best friend has his own carpet cleaning business and they are both millionaires. I have an MBA and I am broke as a joke.Supply and Demand!
More plumbers and carpet cleaners are needed than are available, hence the price of their services is bid up. With an MBA you are far less broke than a lawyer! There are so many lawyers without jobs these days, that some law schools may close.
I have four college degrees and it never got me any pussy directly, but it did indirectly because I made money and that DID get me pussy :<)
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background. As far as AW are concerned, the more education they have, the more impossible they are to deal with.The article claimed that, in addition to money and opportunity, college-educated women want college-educated men so they can engage in "high-minded" conversation. If a woman finds that you can converse with her well enough, she will assume you have at least some formal education.
I agree that the more educated AW make us men jump through more and higher hoops. I will say that some uneducated women are no easier to deal with. I remember dating a Colombiana who had some computer training but no degree. After she got more confidence with me, it was old wives' tale after old wives' tale, superstition after superstition, illogic after illogic. There was no way a 'modern' man could develop a serious relationship with her.
I did some reading on SavePro's 'Soft Harem'. Some interesting stuff. I think many of us already do it to some extent, if we have regular full- or semi-pros that we visit. It is certainly NOT something I would try in the US or Europe. The drama of AWs and the fallout from US society would make it a disaster. It might work if a man goes ex-pat.
Mr Enternational
08-30-15, 20:00
I have spent ten of the past 12 years living outside the US and no woman has ever even asked me about my educational background.That is because those are young people's problems. In my country, when you are in your 20's and early 30's men and women are inclined to try to meet someone with advanced education. The reasoning behind this is that they think they will have more money to afford more shit for themselves and for the kids that they may have together. I remember going to my grad school orientation and the guy asked like 5 people to stand up and say why they decided to pursue an MBA. They gave the usual rhetoric of wanting to educate themselves and expand their knowledge or whatnot. After they finished he said, "Bullshit. MBA stands for More Bank Account. You are here so you can make more money. ".
Thirteen years ago I had a girlfriend in the French Riviera, but she was of Italian background. Her idea was to get married and stay at home and raise the kids. Well I am American so my idea was to have a wife that works so we would have more money and could buy more stuff. Just because of that I broke up with her. A few years later when I was telling an Italian friend about it he said I was crazy. He said it was great to have a woman stay in the house and have your food ready when you got home and yada yada. It was my bad because I was in my late 20's and focused on the American idea of how it was supposed to be.
Now that I am 43 and my child is grown and all my shit is paid for and I have money, and I'm not in the market to accumulate more "stuff", I could care less about a woman's educational background and that she will bring in plenty of money. I'm just happy with a woman or women whose company I enjoy and who will love me for me.
A few years later when I was telling an Italian friend about it he said I was crazy. He said it was great to have a woman stay in the house and have your food ready when you got home and yada yada.Yeah, well, maybe if I ever find a woman who is as good of a cook as I am, I would feel differently (I was a professional cook for 8 years). I am in Italy right now and those guys are not too domestic to say the least. I was talking with my Italian landlord and he could not show me how to use the washing machine in the apartment and said he had never done laundry or washed a dish in his life, and he is SINGLE. His maid does all that shit, comes in twice a week, and he leaves three or four days' worth of dirty, crusty dishes for her. I don't go to bed with dirty dishes in the sink. Fuck that.
SavePros321
08-31-15, 02:26
I did some reading on SavePro's 'Soft Harem'. Some interesting stuff. I think many of us already do it to some extent, if we have regular full- or semi-pros that we visit. It is certainly NOT something I would try in the US or Europe. The drama of AWs and the fallout from US society would make it a disaster. It might work if a man goes ex-pat.Yeah, the only way that would work in the US is if you were a young Brad Pitt, or filthy fucking rich. AW's have the best game going this side of the hemisphere. Could you imagine if prostitution was 100% legal in the US? The perceived value of pussy in the US would plummet so fast it would make your head spin.
The current setup is men trading commitment for sex from women, and women trading sex for commitment from men. If you trade your commitment, and your woman decides she wants to withhold sex from you because you refused to by that spoiled brat that Gucci bag she was eying at the mall earlier, then guess who's jerking off in the shower tonight?
When men can trade money for sex and walk away without any commitment, women have nothing to hold over you. You're wife doesn't want to give you a blow job tonight? Fuck you, I'll just go down to the local brothel or casa and get it from an 18 yr old who needs money for tuition and books.
Props to all of you guys who were able to get the fuck out of sex prison. I'll admit I fell off the wagon for a bit (altering my lifestyle to try to impress these vapid AW h0es), and I need to refocus my efforts and do what I said I will do: work towards getting the fuck out of here pronto!
SavePros321
08-31-15, 02:50
Just wanted to share this comment I just read on TRP. This describes exactly how I have started dealing with AW's lately (see the post I did about the byatch that got offended that I told her any dinner dates would be "Dutch"):
"The "dating" advice to take away from this is: don't "date".
Currently any activity that requires paying for an activity to do together I use only as a reward for women I am already fucking. If you build yourself up enough (preselection, lifting etc) and run enough Game the average girl is going to be down with "hanging out", and that leads to easy and cheap sex.
Then you can use "dates" like ice cream or movies to solidify them as plates.
Basically if women are screening for lovers vs providers then the goal is to provide as little as possible before you get her love. Then use providership sparingly to promote good behavior. And dick her down well enough that she'll change her mind and start paying for some of those dates anyways."
FYI, a "Plate" in manosphere terminology is a chick who is one just one of a handful of chicks you are banging. It comes from the term "spinning plates" (yes, like the guy at the carnival or circus who spins a bunch of plates at once and tries to keep them from falling to the ground).
Chocha Monger
09-03-15, 18:16
The "Soft Harem" is a risky strategy to pursue in the West because Western women are likely to violently object to being rotated as booty calls, unless the harem master is a celebrity. If he is a celebrity then the women would agree to such an arrangement because it would bring them some fame / notoriety and, more importantly, it provides them an opportunity to get pregnant and put his ass on child support for millions of dollars. Every fuck with the celebrity harem master would be like getting a free lotto ticket for a chance at the Powerball jackpot but with much better odds at winning.
Even casual sexual relations can have negative outcomes if one of the women being rotated feels slighted or deceived in some way and reacts violently. Once it goes bad the harem master may regret whatever sex he got out of the arrangement. He may very well find himself being battered or accused of domestic violence. Anyone with doubts about this should take a look at this video showing how it usually works out for the man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G5ziHff5Ek.
I think this KY county clerk Kim Davis is a fine example of an AW. A fat, ignorant, inbred redneck who managed to get three idiots to marry her, including the same guy twice, while sucking at the public tit to the tune of $80 k per year, while flatly refusing to do her job.
Naked Gunz
09-11-15, 03:55
When men can trade money for sex and walk away without any commitment, women have nothing to hold over you. You're wife doesn't want to give you a blow job tonight? Fuck you, I'll just go down to the local brothel or casa and get it from an 18 yr old who needs money for tuition and books. Jeez that would be so great. A man can only dream. After a year of being locked up in sex prison to attend school, am up for parole and looking at a release date this year or early next.
I think this KY county clerk Kim Davis is a fine example of an AW. A fat, ignorant, inbred redneck who managed to get three idiots to marry her, including the same guy twice, while sucking at the public tit to the tune of $80 k per year, while flatly refusing to do her job.Well said. A perfect example of religion freaks that insist on shoving their beliefs down your throat until you puke.
Naked Gunz
09-12-15, 08:52
It is truly over pal. You have not been relevent since your 70's era tv show. You have been busted for DUI at least twice. Your on your third divorce, and kissing the ass of a fat GF who will gladly take what's left after she dumps you for what ever is left (because you will marry her, its only the right thing to do DUHH) which will not be much, but she is a vulture that sees a little bit meat on the bone.
You are truly the dumbest white celebrity in a country that adores white celebrity! You will need to know how to push a broom, flip a burger, or push the shopping carts back to the store. Your a dumbass piece of shit who I watched at age 12. At 56, I puke at your ignorance. A simple mindless stock account investments in 1972 would have guarenteed your future for life, but your the piece of shit that knows it all in Hollywood. FUCK YOU dumb piece of shit David Cassidy! Your the quintessential American dumbass man, and you have given it all to the byitch dogs in court. Your house got sold in bankruptcy. And the new GF is sitting there while he is going thru divorce from the wife. What sackless MF that says he is so much stronger because of the new GF! What a piece of shit you are. You need to die.
Look at this assholes pathetic life: https://homes.yahoo.com/blogs/spaces/david-cassidy-home-bankruptcy-auction--1-8-million-191706196.html.
You guys are going to love this. This at best very average chick saying her hotness is a curse.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a45917/people-judge-me-because-im-pretty/
Additional pics: You got to love those bulging bug eyes.
http://i.imgur.com/fdl3l5p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LWd22Pd.jpg
https://classandthecity.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/10981656_598720383497754_4989796065282029624_n.jpg
You guys are going to love this. This at best very average chick saying her hotness is a curse.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a45917/people-judge-me-because-im-pretty/
Additional pics: You got to love those bulging bug eyes.
http://i.imgur.com/fdl3l5p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LWd22Pd.jpg
https://classandthecity.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/10981656_598720383497754_4989796065282029624_n.jpgShe thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.
She thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.The trouble with beauty is that it fades and all that is left is the biyotch. But then again maybe she will be open to a no-holes barred gang bang in a few years.
ThatGuy865
09-13-15, 17:14
She thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.I have to agree with some of this. A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels. She said she was used to being treated like a princess, limo's, VIP tables for dates. So we never made it to Vegas. But likewise. I met a babe who just after one lunch date. Blew, rimmed and fucked me all week. So both are out there. You just have to weed thru the bad apples.
I have to agree with some of this. A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels. She said she was used to being treated like a princess, limo's, VIP tables for dates. So we never made it to Vegas. But likewise. I met a babe who just after one lunch date. Blew, rimmed and fucked me all week. So both are out there. You just have to weed thru the bad apples.A Fat Bi**ch demanding Bellagio or the Venetian. She must think they have a free all you can eat buffet at those two places.
Mr Enternational
09-14-15, 05:07
A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels.Sweetheart, if you are paying then we can stay anywhere you want. Y'all have to learn how to deal with women.
Sweetheart, if you are paying then we can stay anywhere you want. Y'all have to learn how to deal with women.Some women with not much to offer financially do have a lot of nerve. I had one such woman ask me if I always flew first class and stayed only in 5-star hotels when I traveled. Now, these were things she never could afford herself and expected some man to cover for her. What a turn off! I dropped her post haste. She wasn't all that hot anyway with that distracting mole on her eyelid that I saw every time she blinked, which was often hahaha!
For the record, I always fly economy and stay in 3 to 4-star accommodations. That leaves more money for getting my nuts sucked when I'm finally on the ground in my desired destination LOL! First class is just too expensive and for rich folks, and I can't go lower than 3 stars on a hotel as I do require a certain level of creature comforts. A true 5-star hotel is too expensive, but I can handle 3 or 4 stars. So, me and that gold digger were doomed from the start. Was the right thing to do to kick her to the curb. Plus, there was that eyelid mole thing LOL!
I have to agree with some of this. A fat chick told me, if I wanted her to go to Vegas with me. She would only go if we stayed at the Bellagio or Venetian Hotels on the strip. The two most expensive places. What got me though is this chick was poor and would be lucky to afford a room at Motel 6 . But insisted on the most expensive hotels. She said she was used to being treated like a princess, limo's, VIP tables for dates. So we never made it to Vegas. But likewise. I met a babe who just after one lunch date. Blew, rimmed and fucked me all week. So both are out there. You just have to weed thru the bad apples.Some women (Americans) have told me that the first type of woman (the materialistic one) make those kinds of demands intentionally and know the effect on men. According to the women who related this to me, when a woman is not interested in a man, rather than say so or make up some excuse, she plays the money / material card to turn the man off.
Many years ago, a woman from Africa told me that she and her female friends had a game they played with men. If a man asked one of them out on a date, she would invite her other friends along without telling him. If he went along with that, they then would see how much of his money they could make him spend on them.
We need to have a type of radar to avoid that type of woman in the first place and find the second type of woman in the post I quoted.
While I do not condone [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) sex under any circumstances, I don't condone ANYONE having sex with THIS pig:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28907381/colorado-springs-police-husband-wife-had-sex-14
DJ FourMoney
10-02-15, 06:29
She thinks the way she does because weak ass American Men chase after her and feed her ego.True she could also switch to being a hardcore Muslim and cover up, nobody would know how hot she was. No AW be*tch is going to do that, though a few actually have.
SavePros321
10-02-15, 13:15
Behold! The modern day young American Woman, and all her vapidness:
http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/10/01/14-416010-2015-09-30/web_cut/mlbtv_511523483_1200K.mp4
I'm sure a lot of you MLB Fans have seen this vid already. How can you not conclude that we are in the last days after watching this?
The sports commentators make the vid all the more hilarious!
And hat tip to the chick wearing a Cardinals hat to a game where the Cardinals were no where in sight.
Behold! The modern day young American Woman, and all her vapidness:
http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/10/01/14-416010-2015-09-30/web_cut/mlbtv_511523483_1200K.mp4
I'm sure a lot of you MLB Fans have seen this vid already. How can you not conclude that we are in the last days after watching this?
The sports commentators make the vid all the more hilarious!
And hat tip to the chick wearing a Cardinals hat to a game where the Cardinals were no where in sight.I hate to say it but I am speechless. LOL. Could they be anymore self absorbed?
SP you are the man.
SeizeTheDay
10-02-15, 19:43
Behold! The modern day young American Woman, and all her vapidness:
http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2015/10/01/14-416010-2015-09-30/web_cut/mlbtv_511523483_1200K.mp4
I'm sure a lot of you MLB Fans have seen this vid already. How can you not conclude that we are in the last days after watching this?
The sports commentators make the vid all the more hilarious!
And hat tip to the chick wearing a Cardinals hat to a game where the Cardinals were no where in sight.My god, my generation is fucked! Good luck having an intelligent conversation with those chicks. But why am I surprised? I recently saw my sister and cousin's (11 and 10) instagram pages. We are quickly becoming vapid husks incapable of anything other than self worship.
SavePros321
10-02-15, 19:48
Many years ago, a woman from Africa told me that she and her female friends had a game they played with men. If a man asked one of them out on a date, she would invite her other friends along without telling him. If he went along with that, they then would see how much of his money they could make him spend on them.
If this situation happened where they both showed up at a restaurant or something (y'all know me, I have a rule about not meeting or taking a byatch to a restaurant on a first date), I would just play stupid, yuck it up with them, enjoy my dinner.
Afterwards, I would excuse myself to the bathroom, use that time to find my waiter, tell him to tell those broads I had an emergency, pay him cash for my meal plus a nice tip for his troubles and understanding my dire situation, then split.
If those broads showed up without a dime to their name, then it wouldn't be my fault that they assumed I was picking up the bill for her and her moocher partner in crime.
MohdirFan82
10-02-15, 20:55
I have done this several time in many occasions. When I was a student and making only 7.50 $ an hour. I asked a girl out and she picked the most expensive restaurant.
She knew I am barely making through school, Anyhow we both ordered food, and when time for bill I asked waiter to split the cost, she was WTF you asked me out, I said then you should let me pick the place to eat as well.
80 $ ++ for total bill, I paid my 40+ tips and left.
If this situation happened where they both showed up at a restaurant or something (y'all know me, I have a rule about not meeting or taking a byatch to a restaurant on a first date), I would just play stupid, yuck it up with them, enjoy my dinner.
Afterwards, I would excuse myself to the bathroom, use that time to find my waiter, tell him to tell those broads I had an emergency, pay him cash for my meal plus a nice tip for his troubles and understanding my dire situation, then split.
If those broads showed up without a dime to their name, then it wouldn't be my fault that they assumed I was picking up the bill for her and her moocher partner in crime.
Mr Enternational
10-02-15, 22:12
If this situation happened where they both showed up at a restaurant or something (y'all know me, I have a rule about not meeting or taking a byatch to a restaurant on a first date), I would just play stupid, yuck it up with them, enjoy my dinner.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQerxmkYYfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW04Fh_wMEQ.
Member #4584
10-11-15, 22:59
I think we all have to face the mirror and ask whether we are "alpha" enough to be wanted and treated well by the opposite sex. Unfortunately. Nature, by way of the human subconscious. Is still the survival of the fittest. The beautiful, the crafty, the extremely intelligent. They will move forward. They will improve upon the next generation. What's left are god's mistakes. Let us accept this, let us embrace it.
SavePros321
10-12-15, 03:37
I think we all have to face the mirror and ask whether we are "alpha" enough to be wanted and treated well by the opposite sex. Unfortunately. Nature, by way of the human subconscious. Is still the survival of the fittest. The beautiful, the crafty, the extremely intelligent. They will move forward. They will improve upon the next generation. What's left are god's mistakes. Let us accept this, let us embrace it.No need to wax poetic here bro. Read the subtitle of this message board:
"Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac".
Money > Looks; All day, everyday. I'm positive you realize this hanging out in the PI and CTG. I don't think your "face the mirror" theme works for someone like Donald Trump and Ivanka Trump.
I'm not even sure most of what you wrote even applies to most of us here. I don't think anyone can argue that you inherintly have to be "crafty" or "extremely intelligent" to pull off mongering in another country.
And if you are smart enough to identify an opportunity to bang 18-19yr old, beautiful, fit chicks for less than $30 USD in some places with no strings attached, I'd say you're very intelligent in my book!
Did you guys hear about what happened to fellow monger Lamar Odom?
http://pagesix.com/2015/10/14/meet-the-ladies-who-found-lamar-odom-unconscious/
The article mentions that he was taking an herbal substitute for Viagra. Not sure if that what caused him to get sick.
Or perhaps, he passed out when he got the bill.
What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.
Personally, I would fuck any random hooker before I would fuck at one of those legal brothels in NV. And, I would fuck at any one of those legal brothels before I would fuck trailer trash like Kim Kardashian. She is trying to make money off of him as I write this. I hope it all works out for him health wise. You know if he dies they will find opiates in his system and not just "herbal Viagra," whatever that is.
Mr Enternational
10-14-15, 23:35
What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.Everyone looks average without their hair and makeup done up.
Did you guys hear about what happened to fellow monger Lamar Odom?
http://pagesix.com/2015/10/14/meet-the-ladies-who-found-lamar-odom-unconscious/
The article mentions that he was taking an herbal substitute for Viagra. Not sure if that what caused him to get sick.
Or perhaps, he passed out when he got the bill.
What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.At least he is out getting layed and not playing the dating game, wasting time and money. More and more men are wising up and out living the life instead of self incarceration in sex prison. Hope he's back in the game soon.
Did you guys hear about what happened to fellow monger Lamar Odom?
Or perhaps, he passed out when he got the bill.
What do you guys think of the hoes he picked? They look pretty average to me.I saw Dennis Hof on CNN this morning. They were interviewing him because Odom was at one of Hof's ranches. Hof said Odom arrived on Saturday via Hof's car service. (Odom was in Vegas and Hof sent a limo to pick him up and take him to the ranch.) It seems Odom had been doing cocaine in Vegas on Friday and earlier on Saturday. At the ranch, he drank cognac and took those herbal ED supplements. He stayed at the ranch Saturday night, all day Sunday, all day Monday, and Monday night.
Hof said Odom paid the two ladies $75,000 (didn't say if each or total) for those 3 days.
I saw Dennis Hof on CNN this morning. They were interviewing him because Odom was at one of Hof's ranches. Hof said Odom arrived on Saturday via Hof's car service. (Odom was in Vegas and Hof sent a limo to pick him up and take him to the ranch.) It seems Odom had been doing cocaine in Vegas on Friday and earlier on Saturday. At the ranch, he drank cognac and took those herbal ED supplements. He stayed at the ranch Saturday night, all day Sunday, all day Monday, and Monday night.
Hof said Odom paid the two ladies $75,000 (didn't say if each or total) for those 3 days.News reports this evening say that he paid a total of $75,000. Is it any wonder why so many of these pro athletes end up broke?
I went to one of those legal brothels in Nye County (prostitution is by county option in NV, and is illegal in Clark County, where Las Vegas is) once. All the women were ugly and they wanted $1,000. And that was 20 years ago!
WTF.
These are pictures from my archives.
These are pictures from my archives.And you are showing us these why?
I think they are from NV legal brothels, which we were recently discussing.
And you thought Lamar Odom's pussy was expensive:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29030700/denver-jury-awards-3-9m-former-stripper-who
Mr Enternational
10-27-15, 22:19
And you thought Lamar Odom's pussy was expensive:
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29030700/denver-jury-awards-3-9m-former-stripper-whoHe is the dumbass. Why would you invest that much in a chick? And a dude who had money? WTF? If she does not want you anymore then you go get another one. You don't force yourself on her.
And don't hire her for a regular job for chrissakes. Find, fuck, forget.
And don't hire her for a regular job for chrissakes. Find, fuck, forget.You forgot feel and finger before you fuck and forget LOL!
Chocha Monger
11-01-15, 09:19
I saw the full documentary of Divorce Corp. All American men should look at it before they get married. The clips hit on some points including the worthlessness of pre-nups. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brznz2tif58&list=PLwSPy3vtsTi1D0rESwpbEYJJknq0HJJbt.
UltraHappy
11-02-15, 02:38
I saw the full documentary of Divorce Corp. All American men should look at it before they get married. The clips hit on some points including the worthlessness of pre-nups. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brznz2tif58&list=PLwSPy3vtsTi1D0rESwpbEYJJknq0HJJbt.The film definitely fails to offer a balanced view of the system. If the film actually offered a more realistic and balanced view, it would likely sell less copies.
The film works its magic and throws meat to the lions by exaggerating and stretching the truth.
Chocha Monger
11-03-15, 01:43
The only people who think that "Divorce Corp" fails to provide a "balanced" view of the system are the lawyers and others who benefit from this $50 billion-a-year industry. All the cases presented are real court cases. What can be more realistic than that? The number of copies sold does not change the fact that the divorce courts function in a manner that benefits the lawyers, judges, shrinks and others making a living off failed marriages more than the litigants and their children.
The goal of the documentary was to show the worst case scenarios of how marriage can end in the American court system. People should know the worst that can happen before making a decision to enter into marriage. The documentary even recommended premarital counseling and a waiting period for those contemplating marriage. There is nothing wrong with the documentary showing the financial ruin, loss of time with children, and threat of incarceration to enforce alimony and child support payments. Even cell phone service contracts disclose their early termination penalties on the contract that the customer signs.
The truth is marriage as it currently exists in America brings no benefits and significant risks and obligations to those with substantial assets and income. On the other hand, it benefits the poor because it allows them to qualify for more entitlements and tax credits. They have little to lose in divorce court. The lawyers get it over as quickly as possible because there is hardly any meat on poor bones to devour.
UltraHappy
11-04-15, 04:30
The only people who think that "Divorce Corp" fails to provide a "balanced" view of the system are the lawyers and others who benefit from this $50 billion-a-year industry. All the cases presented are real court cases. What can be more realistic than that? The number of copies sold does not change the fact that the divorce courts function in a manner that benefits the lawyers, judges, shrinks and others making a living off failed marriages more than the litigants and their children.
The goal of the documentary was to show the worst case scenarios of how marriage can end in the American court system. People should know the worst that can happen before making a decision to enter into marriage. The documentary even recommended premarital counseling and a waiting period for those contemplating marriage. There is nothing wrong with the documentary showing the financial ruin, loss of time with children, and threat of incarceration to enforce alimony and child support payments. Even cell phone service contracts disclose their early termination penalties on the contract that the customer signs.
The truth is marriage as it currently exists in America brings no benefits and significant risks and obligations to those with substantial assets and income. On the other hand, it benefits the poor because it allows them to qualify for more entitlements and tax credits. They have little to lose in divorce court. The lawyers get it over as quickly as possible because there is hardly any meat on poor bones to devour.Just to be clear, I'm not saying that the film doesn't have any good points. Indeed, there is a lot of truth in the film, but it is certainly rather one-sided.
Here are some examples:
The film suggests that prenups are of little use and are not respected in courts. As one example of their limited usefulness, the film observes that one cannot agree to custody or child support in a prenup. Duh! Of course, you cannot agree to those things in a prenup. Every 1st year lawyer knows that, just in the same way one can't agree with one's wife that it's ok to beat one's children. Just because you can't legally agree to beating children in a prenup does not mean that prenups are worthless (as the film tends to suggest). Indeed, there are many valid, good reasons to have a prenup and many aspects of prenups which are indeed upheld with great predictability. In fact, in some states, a family court judge in a divorce does not even have the authority to touch a spouse's separate party (only their community property).
Divorces can indeed be expensive, but the film leaves out the possibilities for inexpensive divorces under the right circumstances. In my state for example, organizations exist that to assist spouses navigate the divorce system. Alternatives to litigation exist such as collaborative procedures that help spouses resolve disputes more efficiently. Yes, I agree that many divorces are needlessly costly, in many cases, due to inherent problems with our system, but again, the film endeavors to only tell one side of the story and fails to give a full, balanced picture.
We could go on and on, point by point through the entire film like this. My point is merely that the film is terribly one-sided, so much so, that it quickly loses its credibility right from the start.
But, yeah if you're involved in a contentious divorce that involves kids -- you're fucked -- in the bad way, not the good way. If you ever find yourself in this situation, you better do your darndest to tactfully navigate those waters, manage the emotions, carefully negotiate, judiciously resolve disputes, etc, etc. Do your best to be civil and to not to inflame emotions of your spouse, etc until after the divorce is complete. If you manage to enrage your spouse enough, she will always have the option of making you both lose in the divorce process, even if she does not end up "winning".
Mr Enternational
11-04-15, 05:03
Divorces can indeed be expensive, but the film leaves out the possibilities for inexpensive divorces under the right circumstances. In my state for example, organizations exist that to assist spouses navigate the divorce system. Alternatives to litigation exist such as collaborative procedures that help spouses resolve disputes more efficiently. Yes, I agree that many divorces are needlessly costly, in many cases, due to inherent problems with our system, but again, the film endeavors to only tell one side of the story and fails to give a full, balanced picture.Mine was not expensive. I think problems arise when bitterness, stubbornness, and greed come in to play on either side. I am a smart man. I have an MBA. So I did my own divorce. When I decided that I did not want to be married anymore me and my wife sat at the table to decide how we wanted to divide everything. (We did not have kids together, but if we had then I would have understood that my kids would have needed to be cared for had they stayed with her.) I drew everything up exactly as we had agreed at that kitchen table. When I sent it to her to sign she told me that she had showed it to a family friend and they said it was not legitimate. How the fuck can something that two parties agree upon not be legitimate?
My next step was to file the petition (same exact papers) with the clerk of the court and pay the money to get the sheriff's office to serve it. That is the only money I paid for my divorce. It was definitely under $100. When we arrived for our court date she had a lawyer that she had paid $1500 for. As UltraHappy alluded to, the last thing the court wants to do is litigate, so they give you one last chance at ADR (Alternative Dispute Resolution). They sent us into a room to try to work out a deal (as has happened with couple of other lawsuits that I have been involved in). She decided that she wanted more and I wanted to stick to the original agreement. Still in lieu of litigating, the judge decided to arbitrate the case in her quarters. We went back and the judge gave each of us 2 minutes to say why we should have what we were asking. The judge saw that she was just being bitter and decided to give me everything except the sofa, love seat, and washing machine. So she could have saved $1500 and gotten more stuff had she not tried to be greedy and stuck with the original agreement.
It is always better to try to work things out fairly among yourselves than to spend unnecessary money on lawyers and unnecessary time sending something through the judicial system. I never understand when people say they are in the process of a divorce. Hell all you have to do is draw up the paperwork and file it. Some places even have fill in the blank forms that you can use. If not, then go online and look for an example and type it up yourself. Also most jurisdictions have websites where you can go and they tell you the exact forms to fill out and exact process to follow.
UltraHappy
11-06-15, 02:54
Mine was not expensive. I think problems arise when bitterness, stubbornness, and greed come in to play on either side. I am a smart man. I have an MBA.
It is always better to try to work things out fairly among yourselves than to spend unnecessary money on lawyers and unnecessary time sending something through the judicial system. I never understand when people say they are in the process of a divorce. Hell all you have to do is draw up the paperwork and file it. Some places even have fill in the blank forms that you can use. If not, then go online and look for an example and type it up yourself. Also most jurisdictions have websites where you can go and they tell you the exact forms to fill out and exact process to follow.I agree with everything you said.
I would just add that in certain situations, it may make sense to seek experienced counsel. It's important for everyone to understand what they would be entitled to if judge were to order the split of property. In some cases, this isn't immediately obvious. For example, how much of your house does your wife get if you came into the marriage already owning 30% of the house with your separate property, but then paid another 40% of the house off with community property and during the marriage, the house appreciated in value by 17% and the house note still has $150,000 remaining to be paid off? (assuming you are in a community property state). Some states have detailed statutes regarding houses that already calculate all of this for you taking all of these variables into account in a fair equitable way for both spouses. If you are in one of those states, you better find and understand that equation because if you agree to something other than what that equation calculates for you, then you may have given up something that you are legally entitled to.
If one spouse owns and runs a business, that can be a fairly complicated valuation. Retirement and pension accounts can also complicate matters and have important tax consequences associated with them. Sometimes after a divorce, one spouse gets hit with a surprise tax liability because their divorce lawyer didn't understand the tax consequences of a particular property split.
So, yes, many times, two reasonable people ought to be able to come to a reasonable property split if they are able to be reasonable and civil with one another. Sometimes, things can get a bit tricky, depending on the assets and liabilities that the couple have accumulated over their marriage (and what they had before their marriage).
Marriage Pro Tip 1
Student loans are particularly interesting creatures in divorces. Even if you had separate property student loans before you got married, there is no right of repayment if community property was used to pay off a portion of those student loans during marriage. In this way, student loans are treated differently than other debts. If you are in a marriage that you see going south in a community property state, increase your student loan payments to pay off your personal student loans quicker (for example, start making double or triple student loan payments). The net effect is that you are effectively using some of your spouse's income to pay off your student loans until someone eventually files for divorce. This is because of the special way that student loans are treated in divorce (in community property states). You come out a little ahead this way since the fact that you used community property to make those student loan payments is not later "used against you" in the divorce split because of the way student loans are treated. This quirk in the law regarding treatment of student loans in community property states is a sneaky gotcha item that you can exploit to your advantage if you know about it. The idea is that your spouse benefited from your higher education / earning potential, so hence the reasoning why student loans are treated differently. And, NEVER EVER pay off your personal student loans with your own separate property -- always use community property to pay off student loans!
Marriage Pro Tip 2
If you live in a community property state and you had separate property before your marriage, be extra careful to not commingle that separate property with any community property. If you are unable to later establish that you kept your separate property truly separate and trace it back to its origin, then you won't be able to prove that it's your separate property and that untraceable property will be presumed to be community property.
Marriage Pro Tip 3
You are better off keeping your separate property in a growth fund (not a dividend or income fund). The reason is that income / dividends from separate property are considered community property. Growth / appreciation in stock however is treated as separate property. So, let's say you come into a marriage with $100,000 separate property (or you inherit that amount during marriage). Put that shit in a growth stock fund (that is, a mutual fund that invests in stocks that don't pay out dividends but instead realize increases in value through appreciation in stock price). Then, tell your broker that you want any income / dividend payouts from that account (if any) to not be reinvested but instead to pay out into another account to prevent commingling.
Marriage Pro Tip 4
I know lots of you will want to post Marriage Pro Tip 4: Don't get married in the first place, but it is unfortunately too late for many of our fellow forum readers.
Beijing4987
11-06-15, 04:34
Finally some really useful info on classic divorce. I was not married, but owned a lot and had cash to use for a down payment on a house next door. 16 years later she got one lot and the house. I got two lots a workshop I paid for with cash and a small house. She got a home equity loan to pay the difference, but insisted it be $5000 less because she looked at a cardboard model of my shop and made comments, helping me design it. She can pity architect on her CV. We get along better. Both happy. Never calculated how much she cost per shag, BBBJ. Less than Elliot Spitzer paid per view.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29140760/two-arrested-greeley-prostitution-sting?obref=obinsite
Okay, so which of you guys has been fucking these two?
Mr Enternational
12-07-15, 05:42
This mf has no chill whatsoever. He is speaking the truth though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PYy45RCFNQ
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29140760/two-arrested-greeley-prostitution-sting?obref=obinsite
Okay, so which of you guys has been fucking these two?WTF? Glad I'm no longer living in USA!
Mr Enternational
02-15-16, 04:59
Legislator: Men must get wife's permission for Viagra prescriptions.
"I want to protect these men from themselves," said Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, who sponsored the bill.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/legislator-men-must-get-wifes-permission-viagra-pr/nqQGc/
DoctorKlar
02-21-16, 05:20
https://sexualintelligence.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/superbowl-ground-zero-for-sex-trafficking-super-nonsense/
Member #4577
02-27-16, 23:14
Legislator: Men must get wife's permission for Viagra prescriptions.
"I want to protect these men from themselves," said Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, who sponsored the bill.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/legislator-men-must-get-wifes-permission-viagra-pr/nqQGc/Feminists won't be happy until every man is castrated.
LukeSkywalker
02-28-16, 05:24
These women are way out of line! Pretty soon US guys have to petition local courts for permission before they are allowed to fuck their wives.
Someone should propose a law to give husbands the rights to make their ugly and slutty wives wear stainless-steel chastity belts with husbands the only holders of keys that cannot be duplicated.
Some husbands may 'accidentally' lose the only keys for their ugly wives' belts. OOPS!
Legislator: Men must get wife's permission for Viagra prescriptions.
"I want to protect these men from themselves," said Rep. Mary Lou Marzian, who sponsored the bill.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/legislator-men-must-get-wifes-permission-viagra-pr/nqQGc/
Dark Knight1
02-28-16, 18:29
http://www.wbrz.com/news/ebrso-woman-stole-10-500-from-man-after-offering-him-sex-for-cash
Baton Rouge. Sheriff's deputies say they arrested a woman accused of stealing more than $10,000 from a man after she offered to have sex with him in exchange for money.
22-year-old Brittany Scott was booked on charges of criminal conspiracy and felony theft after deputies arrested her Friday.
The victim contacted deputies to report that three females had come over to his house unannounced and arranged to have sex with him in exchange for $100. After the victim had undressed, one of the women went into his pants pocket and took the man's cash. She immediately ran out of the room with $10,500 the man had in his possession, according to EBRSO.
Chocha Monger
03-01-16, 04:48
"El Gallo," whose nickname evokes the macho dominance of a farmyard fowl, had roosters tattooed on the bodies of some of the girls he romanced and then coerced into prostitution in nightclubs and cantinas around Houston. Witnesses told federal investigators he threatened to shoot them in the spine, so they'd have to drag themselves around for the rest of their days if they tried to escape. They said he told them he would kill their family members if they spoke about it.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/the-rooster-gets-40-years-for-sex-trafficking/ar-BBq9ciw?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=mailsignout
Naked Gunz
03-08-16, 13:13
Erin Andrews poured on the tears in court and was awarded 55 million bucks. Think your tears will get 55 mill if somebody shows your balls online without permission?
Getting ready to head back to the USA for a while so I thought I would check the dating websites to see what's out there.
This one women listed her 8 requirements a man needed to get her attention. Before that she stated she believed in more then the three date rule for her attention. In other words no sex any time soon.
One rule was you had to be God fearing and pray everyday blah blah blah.
Rule seven was you could not be so in debt that you couldn't afford the courtesies she expected from you. In other words MONEY.
Why do guys in the USA think they are not paying for it? Rather paying for it and not getting it.
I read this and ask myself, I am out of the USA and am getting 20's and 30's. They are hot and don't have all those rules.
Why would I put up with that to go out with a woman 48? If that is even her real age.
I feel sorry for the guys in sex prison back in my country. Hungry Dogs fighting for a possible scrap of meat left on a bone.
I am not a praying man but I am very thankful I don't have to be one of them.
Naked Gunz
03-24-16, 13:41
Getting ready to head back to the USA for a while so I thought I would check the dating websites to see what's out there. This one women listed her 8 requirements a man needed to get her attention. Before that she stated she believed in more then the three date rule for her attention. In other words no sex any time soon. One rule was you had to be God fearing and pray everyday blah blah blah.
Unless your DiCaprio pickings are slim. It's even worse for me, I'm Black and Black women on those sites are waaay overweight and absolutely live in church! As a brother I'm expected to tow the line and take it as is because she will not stop eating and not stop praying. You will probably get cut if you even THINK about a treadmill! If the chick looks hallway decent on the site she is getting bombarded with emails from all the pervs or ass kissers promising the world. Good luck with that TA.
I mongered in Nairobi last week, and now I'm in Pattaya. In Nairobi, it was great to have 20's women fall all over me as a fifty something man in decent shape. I even had two rather loudly threaten to kill each other in a very packed club over who is going to phuck me. So I give a few bucks for it, I don't have to kiss any woman's ass over dinner, movie during the bullshit match dot com illusion. You PAY either way. I'm up to my 9th shag of sport fucking and finally have the chains off my back after two years of sex prison.
It was great to have 20's women fall all over me as a fifty something man in decent shape. I even had two rather loudly threaten to kill each other in a very packed club over who is going to phuck me. So I give a few bucks for it, I don't have to kiss any woman's ass over dinner, movie during the bullshit match dot com illusion. You PAY either way.Praise the Lord and pass me them biscuits! Hahahaha!
Unless your DiCaprio pickings are slim. It's even worse for me, I'm Black and Black women on those sites are waaay overweight and absolutely live in church! As a brother I'm expected to tow the line and take it as is because she will not stop eating and not stop praying. You will probably get cut if you even THINK about a treadmill! If the chick looks hallway decent on the site she is getting bombarded with emails from all the pervs or ass kissers promising the world. Good luck with that TA.
I mongered in Nairobi last week, and now I'm in Pattaya. In Nairobi, it was great to have 20's women fall all over me as a fifty something man in decent shape. I even had two rather loudly threaten to kill each other in a very packed club over who is going to phuck me. So I give a few bucks for it, I don't have to kiss any woman's ass over dinner, movie during the bullshit match dot com illusion. You PAY either way. I'm up to my 9th shag of sport fucking and finally have the chains off my back after two years of sex prison.
I to am Black in my fifties so I feel your pain.
Won't be there long. Take care of some business, visit a few friends and then headed to South America.
Then back to Asia where I belong.
Glad you made it out NG. Now have some fun.
Mr Enternational
03-26-16, 13:02
This is some bullshit. They weren't hurting anybody. Just trying to get laid.
http://abc13.com/news/more-than-400-arrests-in-sex-trafficking-sting/1234374/
This is some bullshit. They weren't hurting anybody. Just trying to get laid.
http://abc13.com/news/more-than-400-arrests-in-sex-trafficking-sting/1234374/They always try to tie prostitution to [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) to legitimize spending time and resources to arrest and shame guys for trying to have sex.
Truth is that there is more [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) in the garment, agricultural and construction industries throughout the Southwest USA, but arresting those making millions off it I guess isn't news worthy.
Glad I don't have to live there anymore.
Naked Gunz
04-08-16, 19:21
This is some bullshit. They weren't hurting anybody. Just trying to get laid.Yeah no way I'm risking all I worked for to pay too much for too little from these crackheads in the USA. These guys should have known better, especially in the South. If they are too stupid to dump the wife, get a passport, and take a trip- their bad.
SavePros321
04-08-16, 20:12
Yeah no way I'm risking all I worked for to pay too much for too little from these crackheads in the USA. These guys should have known better, especially in the South. If they are too stupid to dump the wife, get a passport, and take a trip- their bad.The system here is all fucked up. Notice how they said they are now only posting photos of "Johns" and not of the prostitutes that have been arrested as well (they have gone with the assumption that they all are "victims", which is complete horseshit).
So if your wife sees your mugshot, their goes your family, kids, house, and half your wealth. But there'd be no way of you knowing whether or not your wife is doing a little tricking on the side on Craigslist to buy those Loubutins you told her she couldn't have because they were not in the budget.
Beijing4987
04-08-16, 23:41
A post had a link to a report on the sex trade in Europe. In France, Sweden, Finland the johns are targeted. The EU tried to get Germany to scale back its $15 billion trade but got nowhere. Mega brothels are being located a short train ride from the French border. China keeps threatening to curtain public smoking too. But the government monolopy produces 15% of total GDP from sales. I've seen men with chopsticks in one hand an fag in the other as well as men dancing with one right in the woman's face. A man in the train poised to light up as soon as the door opened admitted that it was his "best friend".
In France the johns are targeted. The EU tried to get Germany to scale back its $15 billion trade but got nowhere. Mega brothels are being located a short train ride from the French border.Sure they are! Right!
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/07/473358317/in-france-its-now-a-crime-to-pay-for-sex
Beijing4987
04-09-16, 04:18
Can I get a subsidy if enter a program to stop mongering? How about mentoring a WG to get a minimal wage job and pay taxes to support the rich who send their virtual money to London. Only a short train to fall off the wagon. I'm not bitter. I live part time in Sam High China. The re educated WG can get a job cooking at a German FKK.
Beijing4987
04-09-16, 04:22
Dominique Strauss Kahn will oversee the program to put WG in France on the right path. How many times has he been outed for his sins? We'll call each one a "Berlusconi" 1,2,3.
SavePros321
04-09-16, 04:52
Sure they are! Right!
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/07/473358317/in-france-its-now-a-crime-to-pay-for-sex"Clients will be fined about $1,700 for the first offense — and that increases to more than $4,250 on the second."
Good thing I've never had any desire to visit France. I believe they also have a law that makes it illegal for a a guy to order a paternity test to see if the kid is actually his or not.
A nation of Cucks, hahaha!
I to am Black in my fifties so I feel your pain.
Won't be there long. Take care of some business, visit a few friends and then headed to South America.
Then back to Asia where I belong.
Glad you made it out NG. Now have some fun.I'm black, 46 in very good shape and don't look it. I just came back from Cartagena in January. I had a 20 something hottie who made the trip very worthwhile. I showed her picture to a couple of my black female friends and they acted like I had banged a 7 year old calling me everything but the son of god. You think I'm deterred? Hell no I'm making plans to visit Bogota very soon. Damn these flabby ass black women. Keep up the good works brothers.
Wolvenvacht
04-09-16, 07:59
A post had a link to a report on the sex trade in Europe. In France, Sweden, Finland the johns are targeted. The EU tried to get Germany to scale back its $15 billion trade but got nowhere. The EU has absolutely nothing to say about brothels and the sex industry. As far as the EU is concerned that is a business as any other and not within their jurisdiction. If it was we would already have a uniform rule for the whole of Europe.
SavePros321
04-09-16, 18:10
Getting ready to head back to the USA for a while so I thought I would check the dating websites to see what's out there.
This one women listed her 8 requirements a man needed to get her attention. Before that she stated she believed in more then the three date rule for her attention. In other words no sex any time soon.
One rule was you had to be God fearing and pray everyday blah blah blah.
Rule seven was you could not be so in debt that you couldn't afford the courtesies she expected from you. In other words MONEY.
Rick Scorpio sums online dating from a black man's point of very nicely. This brotha lives in Atlanta and says the dating scene on and offline is even more fucked up.
Basically these sites are feel with bitter broads that passed up all the "good men" in their prime choosing to go after all the bad-boy thugs. Now after they are all beat up (fucked up body, a kid or two, heavily in debt) they want to circle back and are now ready to settle down with a Good Man™. These are the broads you see with a laundry list of requirements to get in her pants. I see broads saying "You must have your own EVERYTHING (Car, Job, House or Apartment)" and you find out the b!tch lives with her mom, hahaha. It's a joke.
I watch this video damn-near daily for motivation:
Washed Up Black Women Now Looking For Good Black Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxDGX4CQtkg
SavePros321
04-09-16, 18:21
I'm up to my 9th shag of sport fucking and finally have the chains off my back after two years of sex prison.
Won't be there long. Take care of some business, visit a few friends and then headed to South America.
Then back to Asia where I belong.
Any of you guys care to share with us how you finally made it out of sex prison?
I have a very well-paying career at the moment, but there is literally no travel involved, nor the possibility to go expat. Tech is booming right now and I am thinking of making the jump while I still have time to make up for the switch (in my early 30's). I have been teaching myself programming for the last 6 months am going the Full Stack Developer route. The thing is, I want a skill I can take with me anywhere in the world (like nursing). With programming you can work remotely from anywhere in the world as long as you have a good internet connection.
They're jealous. Extremely repressed but undeniable jealousy. I'm 60 and am careful who I share my fotos of my hot Filipina and Dominicana 20-somethings with. Only show it to women who are cool and open-minded which is rare in America. Most of those ugly fatties will be depressed if they see you with young hot chicks.
I'm black, 46 in very good shape and don't look it. I just came back from Cartagena in January. I had a 20 something hottie who made the trip very worthwhile. I showed her picture to a couple of my black female friends and they acted like I had banged a 7 year old calling me everything but the son of god. You think I'm deterred? Hell no I'm making plans to visit Bogota very soon. Damn these flabby ass black women. Keep up the good works brothers..
Basically these sites are filled with bitter broads that passed up all the "good men" in their prime choosing to go after all the bad-boy thugs. Now after they are all beat up (fucked up body, a kid or two, heavily in debt) they want to circle back and are now ready to settle down with a Good Man. These are the broads you see with a laundry list of requirements to get in her pants. I see broads saying "You must have your own EVERYTHING (Car, Job, House or Apartment)" and you find out she lives with her mom, hahaha. It's a joke.This is exactly what I found in the dating scene. But it's definitely not just black women coming off like this but the white and Latina ones too! The bullshit is thick and knows no color boundaries! They're all doing it! They don't come to the table with anything to offer but a pussy and an asshole (maybe) and somebody else's unruly kids. I can fill out their laundry list. But to them instead I say, "How ya like me now?" Think they can fuck up and still get a good man in the end. Yeah, well keep dreaming! That's not about to happen in these here parts! Making demands for things that they can't even deliver themselves. I've even met women with kids who were so arrogant that they wouldn't date a man if he had kids (FYI I don't have kids). In other words, a motherfucker is supposed to accept everything about her life in order to be with her, but then she can be picky and have requirements she could never satisfy herself! Goes back to what I've said before about American women acting like you're supposed to kiss their asses in order to get with them. Well I don't play that game. I don't have to. I don't need them. I'm free and liberated from the bullshit! Yeah man fuck these women man!
Any of you guys care to share with us how you finally made it out of sex prison?
I have a very well-paying career at the moment, but there is literally no travel involved, nor the possibility to go expat. Tech is booming right now and I am thinking of making the jump while I still have time to make up for the switch (in my early 30's). I have been teaching myself programming for the last 6 months am going the Full Stack Developer route. The thing is, I want a skill I can take with me anywhere in the world (like nursing). With programming you can work remotely from anywhere in the world as long as you have a good internet connection.I am retired and prepared for this outcome. I did it by staying single, not having a bunch of kids and preparing financially for my break. While I was doing that, I would take short trips to have my fun so as not to become desperate and lonely. A desperate or lonely guy is an easy mark for the ruthless bitches in my country the USA so always be cautious of that.
My advice would be if you are making good money now, stay and make the money. Save as much as you can.
A lot of monger areas are great if you have money but not great for making money even online.
Travel around on short trips getting the lay of the land and having some fun and above all remember this:
The quickest way to derail your future is to find yourself in Family Court. You will have no friends there and you will watch your funds evaporate.
SavePros321
04-09-16, 20:49
I am retired and prepared for this outcome. I did it by staying single, not having a bunch of kids and preparing financially for my break. While I was doing that, I would take short trips to have my fun so as not to become desperate and lonely. A desperate or lonely guy is an easy mark for the ruthless bitches in my country the USA so always be cautious of that.
My advice would be if you are making good money now, stay and make the money. Save as much as you can.
A lot of monger areas are great if you have money but not great for making money even online.
Travel around on short trips getting the lay of the land and having some fun and above all remember this:
The quickest way to derail your future is to find yourself in Family Court. You will have no friends there and you will watch your funds evaporate.Thanks for sharing.
That's essentially what I have been doing (taking short trips, saving up for retirement via 401K, no kids, never been married, etc.). It's just sucks having to come back to this mofo (Sex Prison) after each trip, LOL.
In today's age, the Brady Bunch would be a pure fiction (some claim it already was) since Carol would have rejected Mike and his three kids out of hand. Instead, she would prefer a single sucker with Mike's same income to take in her and her three kids! Oh, and pay for the maid Alice so she Carol could do less work around the house. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit!
Naked Gunz
04-09-16, 22:34
Any of you guys care to share with us how you finally made it out of sex prison? I have a very well-paying career at the moment, but there is literally no travel involved, nor the possibility to go expat. .I'm a contractor and a merchant mariner. Thanks to the information age I know what's really out there, and the money I make is 6 figga. I will retire to the Phils, but keep bouncing around to other exotic locales. Since 2004 I have been out of sex prison way more than in. I spent 2 years up in Seattle for school, and for a middle-aged Black guy in the PNW, its akin to solitary confinement unless you settle for fatties. School is out, and Gunz is back in the game forever.
Wolvenvacht
04-10-16, 09:59
This is exactly what I found in the dating scene. But it's definitely not just black women coming off like this but the white and Latina ones too!But did you notice that our CEO only has a big car and a handful of money to caress and no woman (beautiful or ugly, a spinner or a whale) on his side?
FuckAfMedDig
04-10-16, 10:10
They're jealous. Extremely repressed but undeniable jealousy. I'm 60 and am careful who I share my fotos of my hot Filipina and Dominicana 20-somethings with. Only show it to women who are cool and open-minded which is rare in America. Most of those ugly fatties will be depressed if they see you with young hot chicks.
.They just pissed off cause their titties are hittin the floor, they got 3 bellies and 2 asses.
These broads think they are the turkey on Thanks Giving when theyre merely the left-overs the next day.
I don't live to satisfy no ones idea of proper behavior at any age. I live to enjoy my life-fcuk everyones opinion.
Brazil has the right idea and the rest of South America too. You can be 50 with a 20 year old and if you guys are happy -its on.
But did you notice that our CEO only has a big car and a handful of money to caress and no woman (beautiful or ugly, a spinner or a whale) on his side?That's because he's headed to the airport on a trip to Brazil.
SavePros321
04-10-16, 15:08
But did you notice that our CEO only has a big car and a handful of money to caress and no woman (beautiful or ugly, a spinner or a whale) on his side?If he's got a bad-ass car (looks like the car in the pic is a Lambo) and a fist full of dollars, I think it's safe to assume he can get (or buy) any woman he wants.
When you are getting money like an athlete or an entertainer, you are essentially living life on cheat mode. At that point b!tches are breaking their necks trying to give you some pussy.
Gentleman88
04-14-16, 01:19
I went to one of those legal brothels in Nye County (prostitution is by county option in NV, and is illegal in Clark County, where Las Vegas is) once. All the women were ugly and they wanted $1,000. And that was 20 years ago! WTF.Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsY1qGuyTmQ
Wouldn't do them for free.
Lots of hidden camera upskirt pics are all over the net but you could end up in jail for snapping those pics.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4850697093001/authorities-warn-women-to-watch-for-creeps-with-cameras/?intcmp=hpvid1
Lots of hidden camera upskirt pics are all over the net but you could end up in jail for snapping those pics.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4850697093001/authorities-warn-women-to-watch-for-creeps-with-cameras/?intcmp=hpvid1Asshole needs to go to jail doing shit like that or maybe a good beat down.
Naked Gunz
04-26-16, 16:24
Asshole needs to go to jail doing shit like that or maybe a good beat down.Now your defending AW? I could really care less. Up skirt, down bra, fuck them. Keep your legs closed, wear a Hilary suit. I want to exercise my right to buy a piece of azz at the corner store from a woman that wants to sell it without being arrested, posted on web site and ridiculed, and NOT have to buy rings, pledge my LIFE and all my belongings to an institution that will almost certainly fail.
Now your defending AW? I could really care less. Up skirt, down bra, fuck them. Keep your legs closed, wear a Hilary suit. I want to exercise my right to buy a piece of azz at the corner store from a woman that wants to sell it without being arrested, posted on web site and ridiculed, and NOT have to buy rings, pledge my LIFE and all my belongings to an institution that will almost certainly fail.Not defending AW's. But even women I have no interest in do not need to fall victim to a sexual predator and make no mistake, that is what those guys are.
Mr Enternational
04-27-16, 02:52
Now your defending AW? I could really care less. Up skirt, down bra, fuck them. Keep your legs closed, wear a Hilary suit. I want to exercise my right to buy a piece of azz at the corner store from a woman that wants to sell it without being arrested, posted on web site and ridiculed, and NOT have to buy rings, pledge my LIFE and all my belongings to an institution that will almost certainly fail.Let me get this straight. You are angry with women and care nothing about them? Yet you still want to fuck them? And you feel it is your right to buy pussy whenever you want? How many women were in the legislature when the laws about you not being able to buy pussy were enacted? If I am not mistaken the senators and representatives were an overwhelming majority male then, and still is a majority today.
For the last 230 years the US Senate has had 1950 members, of which 46 (2%) were women. Of those 46, 20 are serving today. Therefore, it seems your anger is misguided. You should be pissed at men because they are the ones who made the laws making it illegal to buy pussy. From my point of view, a feminist woman is one who believes it is her right to do what she wants with her own body; while a male dominated government is there to tell her that she can't.
For the last 230 years the US Senate has had 1950 members, of which 46 (2%) were women. Of those 46, 20 are serving today. Therefore, it seems your anger is misguided. You should be pissed at men because they are the ones who made the laws making it illegal to buy pussy. From my point of view, a feminist woman is one who believes it is her right to do what she wants with her own body; while a male dominated government is there to tell her that she can't.Those are just a bunch of pussy-whipped politicians trying to get votes! Women may make up only a tiny portion of the legislative body, but they make up half of the fucking electorate! So these guys go and try to make themselves look good standing against "trafficking" and "sex tourism" and all this bullshit, and then they turn around and get caught "buying sex" just like the rest of us. Give me a break! They don't all vote for it because they believe in it. They vote for it to try to keep their lame asses in office! And that's the bottom line.
WHOA, E, do you really think a feminist is going to approve of our hobby? If feminists unite this site could be in a lot of trouble. Here's to a MAN'S WORLD: where he can still be king of the castle; where he can have as many nubile, young concubines as he can afford; and where he can say what he wants without getting castrated by yet another loud-mouthed, fat ass, *****-on-a-mission.
a feminist woman is one who believes it is her right to do what she wants with her own body; while a male dominated government is there to tell her that she can't..
I sure miss Benny Hill.
Not defending AW's. But even women I have no interest in do not need to fall victim to a sexual predator and make no mistake, that is what those guys are..
Well, where is Benny Hill when you need him? That guy was always looking up skirts and we loved him for it. Seriously TA, you are taking this too seriously
Not defending AW's. But even women I have no interest in do not need to fall victim to a sexual predator and make no mistake, that is what those guys are..
Sly in my humble opinion. Geez if I could get away with it I'd be staring down every the Cup cleavage I could.
Mr Enternational
04-27-16, 05:46
Well, where is Benny Hill when you need him? That guy was always looking up skirts and we loved him for it. Seriously TA, you are taking this too seriously. Sly in my humble opinion. Geez if I could get away with it I'd be staring down every the Cup cleavage I could.Yeah. And if you did it to my daughter I would be beating your ass. Things are all well and good until the chickens come home to roost. When I was 13 years old in high school there was a smoking area for us out back. Do you think my old high school needs that again too? People and societies do dumb shit sometimes and hopefully they soon realize how dumb it is and grow out of it and learn from it, instead of staying stuck doing the same dumb shit for an eternity.
Yeah. And if you did it to my daughter I would be beating your ass. No one said anything about kids, dumbass.
Mr Enternational
04-27-16, 16:11
No one said anything about kids, dumbass.Daughters come as adults as well as kids you know, dumbass. Or is my adult daughter no longer my daughter?
Well congratulations! No one on ISG (except you) is talking about daughters. I find it completely absurd and hypocritical that Mr. E, a major contributor to ISG, is a self-confessed feminist. OK, go vote for Hillary now, you dolt.
Daughters come as adults as well as kids you know, dumbass. Or is my adult daughter no longer my daughter?.
Mr Enternational
04-27-16, 17:09
Well congratulations! No one on ISG (except you) is talking about daughters. I find it completely absurd and hypocritical that Mr. E, a major contributor to ISG, is a self-confessed feminist. OK, go vote for Hillary now, you dolt.
.Are you as big of an idiot as you are sounding? If you are talking about women then you are definitely talking about daughters. So again if you tried some bullshit like looking up my daughter's skirt or down her shirt with your mirror then you would be in for an ass kicking. Yes I am a major contributor to ISG when it concerns 2 or more WILLING adult parties; not when it concerns perverted unwanted advances like you have mentioned.
Wolvenvacht
04-27-16, 19:08
Well, where is Benny Hill when you need him? That guy was always looking up skirts and we loved him for it.Well different times, different mores.
2000 years ago Romans just loved seeing people being torn to pieces by wild beasts. I don't think this is anywhere in the world still an acceptable show.
Taking up-shirt pictures from non-consenting women is no longer acceptable. How would you feel if your session with a bargirl was filmed and put on the Internet for all to see? I guess that at the very least you will feel cheated out of some copyright fees.
Mr Enternational
04-27-16, 21:23
Those are just a bunch of pussy-whipped politicians trying to get votes! Women may make up only a tiny portion of the legislative body, but they make up half of the fucking electorate! So these guys go and try to make themselves look good standing against "trafficking" and "sex tourism" and all this bullshit, and then they turn around and get caught "buying sex" just like the rest of us. Give me a break! They don't all vote for it because they believe in it. They vote for it to try to keep their lame asses in office! And that's the bottom line.I would say you had an argument on your hands if it wasn't for the fact that most prostitution laws started around the turn of the 20th century, while women were not allowed to vote until 1920! So the only people a politician could have been catering to in order to keep his lame ass in office was other men. So once again, men are the root of laws against prostitution, not women.
I would say you had an argument on your hands if it wasn't for the fact that most prostitution laws started around the turn of the 20th century, while women were not allowed to vote until 1920! So the only people a politician could have been catering to in order to keep his lame ass in office was other men. So once again, men are the root of laws against prostitution, not women.That was a predictable comeback, but here's the thing. Women have a lot of societal power, both formal and informal. They may not have always had suffrage rights, but they have always had significant influence and power over men, including the political men in their lives (well-documented). And that power has only grown over time to where it is today. We're about to have our first female president in the most powerful country the world has ever known (I believe it's true)! Now, if the majority of men today had their way and acted on how they really feel about it, then we all know that pussy would indeed be for sale at the corner store. Note I didn't say all men. I said the majority. And that's what I truly believe.
I'm not here to argue for the proposition that pussy ought to be for sale on "every" street corner. I actually don't think that's something I would prefer. But I do believe that it ought to be for sale somewhere! A lot! And the reason why it isn't in some places is because of the influence of women on men, in both formal and informal settings. And for you to say it's the other way around (men are the reason) because they dominate the legislative bodies is just plain intellectually shallow and blind to the way the world really works. You remove all causation from women on this and assign it to men exclusively? Really? Unbelievable! The power of pussy is strong and has you, me, and everybody else here traveling around the world paying to "get some". So don't underestimate its influence in all forms on all matters of human concern, be that in a formal political forum or elsewhere.
And let me tell you about those "feminists" you mentioned who believe that it's a woman's right to do what she wants to with her own body. Yes, that's what they'll initially say. But then start talking specifically about prostitution and see what they say then! Oh then, well no woman in her right mind would choose to be a prostitute right? She's clearly a "victim". Forced into it and trafficked and abused by men. That's the only reason she's selling her body and there is no other. She knows not what she does!
That's exactly what you're going to hear. These "liberated feminists" who you seem to be touting all of a sudden don't accept a woman doing what she wants to with her own body when it comes to prostitution due to the "victim" mentality that's become pervasive, at least in western society. It's just more of the same two-faced hypocrisy from feminist women who want it both ways. To make their own decisions. Do their own thing. But then when a woman decides to do something that the feminists don't like, oh then all of a sudden we have a problem. Another "male-driven" problem preventing women from "being all they can be". I've seen plenty of your posts over the years, and I can't believe that a guy like you would fall for this this double standard bullshit. And that's exactly what it is too. And it's deep!
I would say you had an argument on your hands if it wasn't for the fact that most prostitution laws started around the turn of the 20th century, while women were not allowed to vote until 1920!By your own words, women have been voting for the last 96 years! A damn century! So not only was your response predictable, but also weak given that by your own admission women have had the vote in the United States for nearly 100 years already. I think that's been long enough to make a difference LOL! Influence I say. Both formal and informal! And do you think everything has remained static since the turn of the last century? Because if you do, then I'm here to tell you that they certainly have not. The types of laws on the books, how strictly those laws have been enforced, against whom they have been enforced, "John shaming", and all that stuff! If you think women don't have a thing to do with all that and haven't had a hand in the development of applicable law over the last 96 years (even though they've had the vote all of that time), then dude the only one here you're deluding is yourself! Hell, the female vote was critical for passing prohibition too (wouldn't have happened without them), and we see how well that turned out LOL!
Mr Enternational
04-28-16, 02:22
Hell, the female vote was critical for passing prohibition too (wouldn't have happened without them), and we see how well that turned out LOL!Prohibition started in 1920, the year women started voting, so of course women were critical for that. Again, prostitution laws originated 20 years before that. You can talk about the evolution of the laws which of course women have had a hand in as well, but the foundation of these laws were laid by men at a time when women had zero say so. These were the same men that said Blacks and women could not vote. So if you think women had so much influence at that time then it seems the first thing they would have influenced is their right to vote before trying to stamp out prostitution. They would not even need the right to vote if they had that much influence! Why would they need to vote when according to you they were deciding shit anyway?
I've seen plenty of your posts over the years, and I can't believe that a guy like you would fall for this this double standard bullshit. And that's exactly what it is too. And it's deep!Maybe it is because the issue does not affect me. I am not here complaining about not being able to get pussy from American women or America being a sex prison. I have never had those kind of problems. The bottom line for me is that American women have pussies. And people with pussies like to fuck just as much as people with dicks. You can drop me in the middle of Timbuktu and the first thing I am going to do is get on some biches.
Prohibition started in 1920, the year women started voting, so of course women were critical for that. Again, prostitution laws originated 20 years before that. You can talk about the evolution of the laws which of course women have had a hand in as well, but the foundation of these laws were laid by men at a time when women had zero say so.Once again, somebody needs a lesson in how the world really works! Do you think 1920 came along then poof! Women had the right to vote in the same year, and then prohibition passed just like that? How did things even get to where it was a national issue up for consideration for passage in the first place? How do you think that happened? Let me tell you. It was because the groundwork for prohibition was laid by women well before it went into place at the very time when women could not vote! That groundwork was laid by plenty of influential women (who couldn't vote) who led a movement to make it happen before they could actually cast a single vote themselves. They were exercising their influence on the psyche of society well before the time came when women could vote! Just like I said they've always done.
So now, do you think those same women without the vote could have been influencing all matter of other concerns to society as well? Matters that impact the lives of women? Like prostitution maybe? Do you think? Or they had one-track, single issue minds and could only focus on prohibition and nothing else LOL? The whole way prohibition got rolling is a perfect illustration of what I've been saying about women having the ability to exert great influence through both formal and informal avenues. Now, they didn't have to be able to vote for laws against prostitution if they could exert enough informal influence (outside the formal political process) to get the males in society to do it for them! LOL! They got the men to pass prostitution laws but men would be damned if they weren't going to be able to get a damn drink either! The women did need the vote to get that one through (again how'd that work out), but they had been working it good before the time arrived when they could vote for it directly themselves.
Influence. Formal and informal! Women have always had plenty of say! Prostitution is the world's "oldest profession", and a woman probably started it once she realized what she had LOL! But that was before "feminism" arose for sure. And if now the feminists have their way, it would be no pussy plus no alcohol all over again! Fuck that.
So if you think women had so much influence at that time then it seems the first thing they would have influenced is their right to vote before trying to stamp out prostitution. They would not even need the right to vote if they had that much influence! Why would they need to vote when according to you they were deciding shit anyway?I haven't seen anybody try to make such a nonsensical circular argument like that in a long time. You're going to need to step up your game if you're going to debate me. And win. Hey here you go, here you go! If these issues don't affect you Mr. Lover Lover, then why are you even here in this thread in the first place then? Stick with the Thailand, DR, and Colombia threads why don't you if as you say "these issues don't affect you" and leave us be in peace with our prostitutes and alcohol to complain about AW LOL!
You can drop me in the middle of Timbuktu and the first thing I am going to do is get on some biches.Ya, just don't look up their skirt or down their blouse, E. Man, you are the epitome of self-delusion. I suppose your farts smell like perfume, too, for all your feminista friends. Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Mr. E. is irresistible to women everywhere! He is the King of All Gigolos. Wow. Your ego is worse than all of the political candidates combined.
Well different times, different mores.
2000 years ago Romans just loved seeing people being torn to pieces by wild beasts. .Ya, Wolfie, they also had orgies; and no doubt looked into cleavages and up gowns like we still do if we can be so lucky to sneek a peek. I'm pretty sure no one wants to see my ass (or other parts) on the internet, however. I wouldn't want to cause mass hysteria hahah. But now a young lass with gorgeous legs and an ample bosom? You'd have to be a homo not to enjoy that.
Naked Gunz
04-28-16, 04:40
Wow, where did all this debate come from while I had my back turned! As I typed that statement I truly felt that women are not the single biggest deterrent to my buying pussy, a six-pack or smoking a blunt after a hard day at work without destroying my life in the process. The country is full of weak drug addicts and alcoholics that have no self-control, and turn to God to get themselves to stop the party. These people comprise a large part of the Christian right that pay the lobbies that control the politicians. These are the people doing blow with hookers, violating children, yet preaching the gospel while looking down their nose at you. They are in my family also.
So yes, between the two (God squad and Feminazi) mongers will have to still cross the border. Yet, there is hope. Reefer is VERY slowly becoming legal for recreational use. Prostitution will have to be looked at also as the country looks for more shit to tax. The country is changing, and the Christian right is slowly dying off, but they are trying to hold on to power- Trump and Cruz are the last dying gasps. Republicans are disintegrating. Jobs are going away and women will even start recognizing the need to earn money that way too. I have been to 50 countries in 5 continents and getting a woman without some mind game, effort pursuit shit is no problem in any of them. In my own country I am subjected to trying to decipher the female psyche (are you fucking kidding me) who is trained to do that? I have been conditioned that her wants and needs are somehow more important than mine because I'm physically stronger. Excuse me but there are some very smart and manipulative women out there taking full advantage!
You can drop me in the middle of Timbuktu and the first thing I am going to do is get on some biches.
Ya, just don't look up their skirt or down their blouse, E. Man, you are the epitome of self-delusion. I suppose your farts smell like perfume, too, for all your feminista friends. Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Mr. E. is irresistible to women everywhere! He is the King of All Gigolos. Wow. Your ego is worse than all of the political candidates combined.Well, it only makes sense that the AW venom would be eventually directed to E. LOL! I mean yeah, you do portray yourself as that muthphucka "most interesting man in world"! 0 ver 5000 POSTS! One week in Thailand, the next in Tijuana, then BACK- are you kidding? I mean do you really have a job man? Am I going to find you've fucked some seals in Siberia forum? Not being a hater-just sayin! I've been on this site 10 fucking years, yet my very busy life in all those countries prohibits a bunch of typing. I also do not think it adds much to anybody's knowledge when all I have done is picked a girl, fucked a girl, paid a girl. That's just basic shit that goes unreported.
Wow, where did all this debate come from I mean do you really have a job man? He works for an airlines, has a MBA (probably from Univ-Phoenix) and talks a whole lotta bullshit.
He works for an airlines, has a MBA (probably from Univ-Phoenix) and talks a whole lotta bullshit.And also claims to be so smart, but yet says he has little money. But then he's allegedly bouncing around all over the place from Thailand to the PI to the DR to Mexico to Colombia. Occasionally to the States. With little income according to his own words in other posts. Somebody's game definitely doesn't pass the "smell test". Somebody is "scamming".
Mr Enternational
04-28-16, 15:31
Ya, just don't look up their skirt or down their blouse, E. Man, you are the epitome of self-delusion. I suppose your farts smell like perfume, too, for all your feminista friends. Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Mr. E. is irresistible to women everywhere! He is the King of All Gigolos. Wow. Your ego is worse than all of the political candidates combined.That is pure sadness. Because I don't have a problem with women and therefore don't need to join your cause and talk bad about them the same way that you do, then you feel you must talk bad about me? That is the same as me being able to go into the bank with an 800 credit score and get a loan, yet when you walk in with a credit score of 400 and can't get a loan you have to proclaim the banks as being shitty. Then I say I don't find anything wrong with the banks; I have no problem getting loans from them. Instead of asking well how do I get my credit score up as well so that I can get loans like you, you have to try to put me down and ridicule me as being this, that, or the other. You are a sad case dude; a pussyless sad case at that.
The thing is that everyone is good at something. It is just that you are not good at women. And this is apparent from you saying you wish you could look down strangers' shirts and up their dresses with impunity. Maybe you are good with computers and can program the hell out of one. Me, I used to be good with computers back when I had a Commodore 64, but now I don't know shit about them and can admit that. But that does not entitle me to say how shitty computers are these days and talk bad about you because you can program a computer in your sleep and I can barely turn one on. If anything I am going to say hey man since I know you are so good at it, can you teach me a thing or two about these computers?
I know you are so good at it, can you teach me a thing or two about these computers?You don't know jack shit about me or what I'm good at, dumbass. I'm not good with computers. Women, I can hold my own with or without looking at their their breasts and legs. Let's compare notes when you're 60. I'm also good at exposing you for the bullshit that you spew and the pomposity you represent. Geez, E, eat some humble pie and fess up: you are not God's gift to women and never will be.
Wolvenvacht
04-28-16, 16:47
Ya, Wolfie, they also had orgies; and no doubt looked into cleavages and up gowns like we still do if we can be so lucky to sneek a peek. I'm pretty sure no one wants to see my ass (or other parts) on the internet, however. I wouldn't want to cause mass hysteria hahah. But now a young lass with gorgeous legs and an ample bosom? You'd have to be a homo not to enjoy that.And we still have orgies and I regularly participate. But it is all consensual and that is the thing that matters. I enjoy some cleavage as any next man and a picture of a pussy a day would keep me a happy man, but not if it was "stolen" against the consent of the "victim".
It's not the down-blouse of up-skirt thing that's sick (quite the contrary) but the fact that is done against the wishes of the lady. It is very unbecoming a gentleman to sneek around wth a smartphone (or whatever) and invade her intimacy.
Point taken. For the record, I just like to look not snap fotos of the unsuspecting feline. Behind closed doors with a consenting adult is another matter of course but definitely not with anyone related to or part of Mr. E's harem. I'm quite sure they'd all be too ugly for me.
And we still have orgies and I regularly participate. But it is all consensual and that is the thing that matters. I enjoy some cleavage as any next man and a picture of a pussy a day would keep me a happy man, but not if it was "stolen" against the consent of the "victim".
It's not the down-blouse of up-skirt thing that's sick (quite the contrary) but the fact that is done against the wishes of the lady. It is very unbecoming a gentleman to sneek around wth a smartphone (or whatever) and invade her intimacy..
Mr Enternational
04-28-16, 18:49
And also claims to be so smart, but yet says he has little money. But then he's allegedly bouncing around all over the place from Thailand to the PI to the DR to Mexico to Colombia. Occasionally to the States. With little income according to his own words in other posts. Somebody's game definitely doesn't pass the "smell test". Somebody is "scamming".Scamming what? The thing is that I hang out with and can be vouched for by many members of ISG. Tell All in this particular thread. Dcfan in the Medellin thread. Tomjackin in the Tijuana thread. LittleBigMan in the Thailand thread. Mrgogo, Grownman, Revere, Bqribs, and Readytogetonit, Surfer in the Dominican Republic thread. Sushilover808. Hell I even met Pipelayer99 years ago off this board in Rio and we have been friends ever since. I convinced him to go to Thailand and he has been living there about 3 years now. I have met many more members as well.
Ask board member Chris Long about when he came to Thailand last summer and I picked him up and all drinks were on me and I showed him my way of doing things. They way that I state over and over on this board. I didn't have him walking into the disco buying drinks for a girl and all her friends. I told him leave with this girl and give her $30 tomorrow. I think he had a time trying to get rid of the chick.
Just because I choose to spend my money wisely and not put it in the hands of every woman I come in contact with, does not mean that I do not have any. If I was to pass out money to every chick I dealt with or stay in a luxury hotel and get a limo driver every place I went to, then soon I would have no money. But when I can ride the bus from Manila to Angeles for $5 and get there in relatively the same amount of time as the guy who is paying a taxi $60, guess which one I am going to do?
Mr Enternational
04-28-16, 19:55
You don't know jack shit about me or what I'm good at, dumbass. I'm not good with computers. Okay. Plant flowers, wire houses, swim. Whatever the hell you are good at. We can definitely tell that neither common sense (did you seriously say that women aren't daughters) nor relating analogies is your strong suit. Seems like you are getting emotional like a woman though. Maybe that is what you are good at.
Just because I choose to spend my money wisely and not put it in the hands of every woman I come in contact with, does not mean that I do not have any. If I was to pass out money to every chick I dealt with or stay in a luxury hotel and get a limo driver every place I went to, then soon I would have no money. But when I can ride the bus from Manila to Angeles for $5 and get there in relatively the same amount of time as the guy who is paying a taxi $60, guess which one I am going to do?I'm just going off of old posts I've seen you make where you yourself claimed poverty. I asked you one time privately if you were retired and you told me no, but that you do "OK". Something to that effect. Whatever that means. So you're a really smart guy, you have an MBA, but you don't have a lot of money (all your words and not mine). You're not retired (again your words). And yet, you're bouncing around all over the place from Asia to South America to the Caribbean to North America and back to Asia again. The flight attendant theory works for me! Cabin crew with a Master's degree!
But I'm going to get back to the original subject, then I'm through with this. When you boil it all down, here's the essence of your argument. Legislative bodies pass laws. Men overwhelmingly occupy legislative bodies. Therefore, men are fully responsible for anti-prostitution laws while women have absolutely nothing to do with that whatsoever. None at all. Furthermore, the framework for anti-prostitution laws was established at the start of the 20th century, and nothing really has changed at all since then. Wow! That's your argument, which I find to be surprisingly simplistic, narrow-minded, and shallow for somebody who claims to possess and be so proud of having an advanced education (you're always reminding us about that MBA hommes). Let the record show that I've already pointed out why and how your stance is dead wrong.
Here you go again, bonehead. Who is the "we" you refer to? All of your imaginary friends? As for your analogies, the logic is not there but go ahead and get another loan if you need to. I'm debt free. As for your daughter, you were the one that brought her up, not me. She's probably as ugly as you are stupid. Man, you should ask for your money back from that MBA. You sure don't use here or as a flight attendant. I used to get a kick out of your posts because you are so full of yourself but I knew you would eventually implode and now you have! Congratulations, E, you've been blocked. Your posts don't even have entertainment value any more!
We can definitely tell that neither common sense (did you seriously say that women aren't daughters) nor relating analogies is your strong suit. .
SavePros321
05-06-16, 22:13
Saw this on some Ratchet h0e's POF profile easier today. For those of you who may have trouble reading the words in the photo attached, it reads:
"MAN RULE #7: A Grown Man is supposed to have his own car, apartment / house, & money. Grown Men don't seek Independent Women so they can be dependent as men. Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. A man who doesn't have his own is a boy to real men & the downfall of the women who love them".
This statement is fucked up on so many levels. So as a "Grown Man", I'm expected to have all the laundry list of items she has deemed a man should possess, but "Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. " Meaning I'm supposed to help you pay for that apartment / house you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it? That BMW you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it?
The nerve of broads today. The sad part is there was probably some SIMP who saw that on her profile and was nodding his head in agreement.
Naked Gunz
05-07-16, 01:41
Saw this on some Ratchet h0e's POF profile easier today. The nerve of broads today. What do you expect from a hood rat? Her profile reflects an obvious lack of class. Your POF woman, the image she projects, who she is, where she lives, and ultimately the kind of man she attracts, she thinks, needs some sort of "training". Water seeks its own level my friend. That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man. I don't even have to see the pic to know this diva is hood and obviously attracting ex-cons, pervs, immature kids, and she feels all men are this way, not understanding that she will never attract the "gentlemen" she desires. It's Mothers Day Sun.! Lets all put together a go fund me vaca to the Maury show to find her baby daddies!
SavePros321
05-07-16, 01:53
That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man.Don't give those "college educated women" a pass either. There are plenty of them that got knocked up by "Man-man" and "Jamarquavious". Despite the formal education degree, broads still make stupid decisions when it comes to the game called life.
Check out Tommy Sotomayor's take on this:
They Love Robbing Peter To Pay Tyrone & Jamarquavious! Broke Black B!tches Begging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md9JWqN6E2o
What do you expect from a hood rat? Her profile reflects an obvious lack of class. Your POF woman, the image she projects, who she is, where she lives, and ultimately the kind of man she attracts, she thinks, needs some sort of "training". Water seeks its own level my friend. That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man. I don't even have to see the pic to know this diva is hood and obviously attracting ex-cons, pervs, immature kids, and she feels all men are this way, not understanding that she will never attract the "gentlemen" she desires. It's Mothers Day Sun.! Lets all put together a go fund me vaca to the Maury show to find her baby daddies!I have a friend who Black Women find attractive. I have known him for twenty years. Those bitches are always all over this guy saying he is the man they have been looking for when they don't even know his last name. He once fell for the bullshit but after being fucked over in family court twice and losing big, he finally learned.
I am an average looking Joe, a Lame with the means to travel the world. He once asked me why I go all the way to Asia and South America to find women when there are plenty here?
I told him I go because the playing field is level. I don't have to be this tall or this shade of brown or have this grade of hair to have drop dead gorgeous women.
We are both in our fifties and at first he didn't understand until he showed me pictures if his age appropriate women in their 40's and 50's who still expect to be wined and dined. Who still expect for you to listen to their needs and fulfill them.
Then I showed him my women who are young, hot and ready to fuck my brains out with no drama.
He finally understands and said if he had knew years ago it would have saved him 2 houses. LOL.
Now he listened to their bull to get in there pants and never lets his guard down.
Maybe he has learned, maybe not. I do know that I wouldn't trade my life for his and in the end if you don't fall for those bitches bullshit, you will be a lot better off.
Mr Enternational
05-07-16, 06:38
Check out Tommy Sotomayor's take on this:
They Love Robbing Peter To Pay Tyrone & Jamarquavious! Broke Black B!tches Begging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md9JWqN6E2oThat joker is always spot on. I watch him everyday and I don't think he has ever said something that I did not agree with.
Ricardo Torres
05-07-16, 07:29
That joker is always spot on. I watch him everyday and I don't think he has ever said something that I did not agree with.Tommy speaks reality and common sense. Love the guy.
I have no problems with black women. Absolutely none whatsoever. Because you see, except for at work where I have to, I don't talk to 'um hahaha! I step out with the Latinas and the white girls LOL! Not too attracted to Asians, but would like more access to Arab women who I have had some good experiences with (very dirty). Hehehe!
Mjuaji2003
05-11-16, 14:39
What do you expect from a hood rat? Her profile reflects an obvious lack of class. Your POF woman, the image she projects, who she is, where she lives, and ultimately the kind of man she attracts, she thinks, needs some sort of "training". Water seeks its own level my friend. That's why there are many, many attractive and college educated women that feel they are "settling" when is comes to a hard working non-degreed, blue collar man. I don't even have to see the pic to know this diva is hood and obviously attracting ex-cons, pervs, immature kids, and she feels all men are this way, not understanding that she will never attract the "gentlemen" she desires. It's Mothers Day Sun.! Lets all put together a go fund me vaca to the Maury show to find her baby daddies!"I don't know how many marriage breakups are caused by these movie-and television-addicted women expecting some bouquets and kissing and hugging and being swept out like Cinderella for dinner and dancing -- then getting mad when a poor, scraggly husband comes in tired and sweaty from working like a dog all day, looking for some food."
Malcolm X, The Autobiography of Malcolm X.
Wolvenvacht
05-11-16, 19:16
Saw this on some Ratchet h0e's POF profile easier today. For those of you who may have trouble reading the words in the photo attached, it reads:
"MAN RULE #7: A Grown Man is supposed to have his own car, apartment / house, & money. Grown Men don't seek Independent Women so they can be dependent as men. Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. A man who doesn't have his own is a boy to real men & the downfall of the women who love them".
This statement is fucked up on so many levels. So as a "Grown Man", I'm expected to have all the laundry list of items she has deemed a man should possess, but "Grown Men don't watch their women struggle to do everything, while they contribute nothing. " Meaning I'm supposed to help you pay for that apartment / house you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it? That BMW you are struggling to keep because you can barely afford it?
The nerve of broads today. The sad part is there was probably some SIMP who saw that on her profile and was nodding his head in agreement.I just wonder, don't you have similar rules for your women? Shouldn't she be young, sexy, beautiful, entirely devoted to you (but still allow you your little escapades) and of independent wealth she more than willingly shares with you?
What I want to say is that we all have our "standards", ours and those of many women are not that much different I think.
I just wonder, don't you have similar rules for your women? Shouldn't she be young, sexy, beautiful, entirely devoted to you (but still allow you your little escapades) and of independent wealth she more than willingly shares with you?
What I want to say is that we all have our "standards", ours and those of many women are not that much different I think.You are dead wrong. I don't have similar such rules for my women, and my standards certainly are not the same as those of these women who many of us here despise. You see, I no longer buy into "the system"! "My women" are tutes! So what are my requirements for them then? Well, to borrow from a union's demand for a fair day's pay for a fair day's work, how's about a fair fuck for a fair buck! LOLOLOL! I'm not interested in her love and devotion and all that bullshit! Young and sexy and beautiful OK. And a good PSE fuck hahahaha! And that's it! I'm not interested in "relationships". Just a good piece of ass. Again and again and again! For the rest of me life! So help me God!
Naked Gunz
05-13-16, 03:52
What I want to say is that we all have our "standards", ours and those of many women are not that much different I think.Hi W,
Sure, everyone has standards. She is enjoying the "double standard" AW so exceeding take advantage of in the good ole USA! What type of reception would you get if you posted in your profile a gif stating your minimum standards: Big tits, small waist, a phat ass, no damn needy kids in need of a father figure! The complaints to the website would eventually get you to have it removed, if not outright kicked of the site. Even if in your gif were similar to hers and insisting on what a grown woman is supposed to be; I'm sure you would be blasted with responses saying your an idiot that does not know the value of a woman.
Actually this thing makes quite a statement of how much a biatch she must be. This kind of attitude can only attract negative attention- online or wherever. The majority of profiles have great photos, positive messages, and ok, some idea of the kind of person they like. Any man or woman that throws this shyte out there is living a miserable life. She is putting out a shyte vibe and in turn -attracting shyte, yet too stupid to know what she is doing as a first impression.
You see, I no longer buy into "the system"! "My women" are tutes! how's about a fair fuck for a fair buck! LOLOLOL! ! I'm not interested in "relationships". Just a good piece of ass. Again and again and again! For the rest of me life! So help me God!I'm living that life and its wonderful!
Hi W,She is putting out a shyte vibe and in turn -attracting shyte, yet too stupid to know what she is doing as a first impression.I used to find it rollicking funny when I would meet these women claiming how they're not down with a bunch of drama, and the whole while they're being all dramatic as they tell me how they don't want any drama LOLOLOL! Too stupid and self-absorbed to have any self-awareness of how they're coming off.
Naked Gunz
05-14-16, 00:23
I used to find it rollicking funny when I would meet these women claiming how they're not down with a bunch of drama, and the whole while they're being all dramatic as they tell me how they don't want any drama LOLOLOL! Too stupid and self-absorbed to have any self-awareness of how they're coming off.Too "hood":. Too "ghetto":. Have never seen or acted with any class. Only understand "Thug":.
Larry David
06-08-16, 16:35
Per The Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/08/four-in-10-american-women-classified-obese-epidemic
Obesity, which means not merely overweight, but seriously overweight, is considered one of the nation's leading public health problems because it can trigger diabetes and lead to heart disease and other serious health problems. Until the early 1980's, only about one in six adults were obese.
Researchers looked at obesity rates among different age groups and along racial lines and found wide disparities, mainly ones that have persisted for years.
Obesity continues to be most common among black women. About 57% of black women are obese. In contrast, about 47% of Hispanic women, 38% of white women, and 12% of Asian women are obese.
Naked Gunz
06-10-16, 06:23
Obesity continues to be most common among black women. About 57% of black women are obese. In contrast, about 47% of Hispanic women, 38% of white women, and 12% of Asian women are obese.Don't really need a research study to know this. A simple look outside your window will reflect this. As a middle-aged Af-Am man my dating choices in the USA are truly sad. Fat, menopausal women surrounded by grandkids on the weekends. I am so happy to be away from the USA. I won't knock just the women in being overweight. I FINALLY got my ass to working out again and lost 15 so far, 20 more to go. It takes WORK and SWEAT- 2 things many women don't like to do for exercise. If it aint a cute dance routine they aint doing it. I will be in Nairobi and the Philippines again with my slimmer body riding twenty-something's like a winning jockey in the final stretch!
Naked Gunz
07-05-16, 14:42
What a pussy country! Fully clothed Hooters girl sponsoring scouts causes outrage! You see more tits on an Italian beach!
And they have less sexual hangups, and I'm sure less r8 pists and child molesters. Fucking right wing Christian right at work again!
https://gma.yahoo.com/parents-outraged-learn-local-hooters-sponsored-cub-scout-184215159--abc-news-topstories.html#.
Noob Traveller
07-12-16, 19:32
What a pussy country! Fully clothed Hooters girl sponsoring scouts causes outrage! You see more tits on an Italian beach!
And they have less sexual hangups, and I'm sure less r8 pists and child molesters. Fucking right wing Christian right at work again!
https://gma.yahoo.com/parents-outraged-learn-local-hooters-sponsored-cub-scout-184215159--abc-news-topstories.html#.This is why I like this forum (though it's members are another story). I'm not in favor of the social engineering war known as the gender gap / conflict / whatever, but something has to give. Trying to game in the USA gets you labelled a creep these days. Some guy at a gas station tried chatting up the desk peon and she threatened to call the cops. I say, save your money, get your passport, and visit Haiti / the Philippines / somewhere in Africa. Less BS, and your dollar goes farther.
Trying to game in the USA gets you labelled a creep these days. Some guy at a gas station tried chatting up the desk peon and she threatened to call the cops. I say, save your money, get your passport, and visit Haiti / the Philippines / somewhere in Africa. Less BS, and your dollar goes farther.It's funny you bring this story up. I work in an industry in the USA Where a majority of the employees are women. We recently had an employee that felt "uncomfortable" when a client was with her. I asked her specifically what happened but she was being vague and was just saying she felt uncomfortable around him. Apparently she told our manager about this and because of what happened we now have panic buttons in every office. Pressing the button goes straight to the local police department and an officer will be sent to investigate! All because an AW felt uncomfortable!
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