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nice face, tits and ass
why no customers?
optikfick sits alone
thirty minutes almost up
must come now!
fifty euros please
That is the problem! :)
I have the luxury of not having to deal with her during her off moods and even if otherwise she is pretty high maintenance, she has a way of making me forget that when we are together.
I also feel that I'm lacking in experience in making an honest woman out of a pro.
Anybody with a success story to share?
With your requirements, I think the way for you to go is to find a regular girl with the characteristics you need and then try to turn her into pro ;-)
With your requirements, I think the way for you to go is to find a regular girl with the characteristics you need and then try to turn her into pro ;-)
There is some talk (amongst mongers mostly sadly) that all brides should be required as part of their preparation for marriage to spend 3 weeks working at Bernd's. Would do wonders for many and would beat the 'sessions' on pre-marriage provided by many Churches. Just a thought.
There is some talk (amongst mongers mostly sadly) that all brides should be required as part of their preparation for marriage to spend 3 weeks working at Bernd's. Would do wonders for many and would beat the 'sessions' on pre-marriage provided by many Churches. Just a thought.
Bloody excellent idea..man I would love to see that enforced.
Busterbrown 73
11-24-07, 00:44
Just booked an 7 day trip to Europe, flying into Amsterdam and flying out of Frankfurt. Considering this is my first time to A'dam (and to Frankfurt for the matter, my intentions are to experience the Netherlands for the first 4 days or so and then fly to Frankfurt for the remaining days of the tour (the Oase sounds like paradise). I just recently found this forum and have educated myself to the FKK world. My question is this: considering I'm new to both arenas (the brothels of A'dam and the FKK's of Germany), would it be wise to limit the number days in Germany (or vice versa)? I'm pulled in both directions and only have friends who have been to Amsterdam for advice. Also, does the euro go farther at the Oase? Are the women higher on the scale in Germany than in A'dam? And is the Oase one of the better clubs near Frankfurt? The Palace is mentioned alot in some threads.
Just booked an 7 day trip to Europe, flying into Amsterdam and flying out of Frankfurt. Considering this is my first time to A'dam (and to Frankfurt for the matter, my intentions are to experience the Netherlands for the first 4 days or so and then fly to Frankfurt for the remaining days of the tour (the Oase sounds like paradise). I just recently found this forum and have educated myself to the FKK world. My question is this: considering I'm new to both arenas (the brothels of A'dam and the FKK's of Germany), would it be wise to limit the number days in Germany (or vice versa)? I'm pulled in both directions and only have friends who have been to Amsterdam for advice. Also, does the euro go farther at the Oase? Are the women higher on the scale in Germany than in A'dam? And is the Oase one of the better clubs near Frankfurt? The Palace is mentioned alot in some threads.
Just be glad that you are doing Amsterdam first because you would be very dissapointed with the Amsterdam service after doing FKKs. Read up on the prices in the respective forums and you will get your answers.
My question is this: considering I'm new to both arenas (the brothels of A'dam and the FKK's of Germany), would it be wise to limit the number days in Germany (or vice versa)? BB,
I love flying into Ansterdam and I love the city. But there is no comparison in the overall quality of FKKs to the scene in the Netherlands.
I think visiting the window girls Amsterdam and maybe the red bridge in Utrecht are worth while as a 1 time event, but the FKKs are so much more fun that I haven't been back to Amsterdam for anything other than business in over 6 years (and I usually drive to Cologne as soon as business meetings end).
My advice, spend a day or 2 in Amsterdam and the rest in Frankfurt.
Boomer10
Just booked an 7 day trip to Europe, flying into Amsterdam and flying out of Frankfurt. Considering this is my first time to A'dam (and to Frankfurt for the matter, my intentions are to experience the Netherlands for the first 4 days or so and then fly to Frankfurt for the remaining days of the tour (the Oase sounds like paradise). I just recently found this forum and have educated myself to the FKK world. My question is this: considering I'm new to both arenas (the brothels of A'dam and the FKK's of Germany), would it be wise to limit the number days in Germany (or vice versa)? I'm pulled in both directions and only have friends who have been to Amsterdam for advice. Also, does the euro go farther at the Oase? Are the women higher on the scale in Germany than in A'dam? And is the Oase one of the better clubs near Frankfurt? The Palace is mentioned alot in some threads.I just semi-finished my trips from Oase & GT, I am currently vacation on Montenegro, next week will be Italy.
I should be back to FRA area in 1. 5 weeks. I also been AMS area two years ago.
I think it all depends your experience & expecation. I would suggest day or two in AMS area (for compare with FKK purpose, personal, I think it is total waste time & money). Why not go to GT since you are fry in AMS, GT is right on the border.
I assume you are from US, this day US dollars is record low, thanks to Mr. Bush, 1Euro=1. 5US. In Oase, is standard FRA price structure, entry fees. 65Euro, one session (half hour) 50Euro, extra like CIM (50Euro), extend session, another 50Euro.
In GT, entry fees 50Euro, first session 50Euro, additional session 25Euro, extra (CIM). 25Euro, Anal-50Euro.
If you like to save the money, have more GFE sessions, enjoy the club stuff (relax), have more choice and enjoy all drink and food like me, then FKK is your choice.
I will post my reports after I back home. Enjoy your trips.
...In GT, entry fees 50Euro, first session 50Euro, additional session 25Euro, extra (CIM). 25Euro, Anal-50Euro...
Just to clarify, at GT (PHG and LR as well), additional sessions are 50 euro as well. It is only the second and subsequent 30 minutes within the same session that are 25 euro
Just booked an 7 day trip to Europe, flying into Amsterdam and flying out of Frankfurt. Considering this is my first time to A'dam (and to Frankfurt for the matter, my intentions are to experience the Netherlands for the first 4 days or so and then fly to Frankfurt for the remaining days of the tour (the Oase sounds like paradise). I just recently found this forum and have educated myself to the FKK world. My question is this: considering I'm new to both arenas (the brothels of A'dam and the FKK's of Germany), would it be wise to limit the number days in Germany (or vice versa)? I'm pulled in both directions and only have friends who have been to Amsterdam for advice. Also, does the euro go farther at the Oase? Are the women higher on the scale in Germany than in A'dam? And is the Oase one of the better clubs near Frankfurt? The Palace is mentioned alot in some threads.
Sure. Go to Amsterdam to experience it for once. Its tourist oriented. The girls know you are there only once so they have no incentive to do more than the basics and then they go into a heavy upsell mode to milk the most bucks out of you.
I would visit the Rijksmuseum, Anne Franks Haus, Rembrandts Haus, the Van Gogh Museum and the Heineken Brewery. This is what I would do if I were going to Amsterdam.
Then I'd cross the German border.
Ekliges Lauern
11-25-07, 16:03
Does anyone know of a club that will be open at least during the day on New Year's Eve this year. Last year I could not find a FKK or Sauna club so I went to Asia Sex World for an end of the year romp. Any ideas?
Does anyone know of a club that will be open at least during the day on New Year's Eve this year. Last year I could not find a FKK or Sauna club so I went to Asia Sex World for an end of the year romp. Any ideas?I thought that F 39 has an " offen Fiertags " sign above the gate. Can someone check when they next visit?
Warsteiner
11-25-07, 19:55
Does anyone know of a club that will be open at least during the day on New Year's Eve this year. Last year I could not find a FKK or Sauna club so I went to Asia Sex World for an end of the year romp. Any ideas?
I haven't had a look around but Heavens Gate is open from 10am - 4pm on New Years Eve (Silvester) http://www.fkk-heavensgate.de/events.html
FreakySexGuy
11-25-07, 21:44
Hello,
I recently saw a post in this forum with a link to an interactive map that showed all of the p4p places in Germany. Can anyone point me to it? I can't find it and need it now!
Thanks!
Hello,
I recently saw a post in this forum with a link to an interactive map that showed all of the p4p places in Germany. Can anyone point me to it? I can't find it and need it now!
Thanks!
Well, that was probably the Red Carpet Club map. But it is by no means a map of ALL of the P4P places in Germany. Certainly not all of the FKK's.
(I had a link here, but after re-reading it I found it mentioned another Forum at the bottom, so I went back and deleted it. Google Red Carpet Club and you'll find it.)
Well, that was probably the Red Carpet Club map. But it is by no means a map of ALL of the P4P places in Germany. Certainly not all of the FKK's.
(I had a link here, but after re-reading it I found it mentioned another Forum at the bottom, so I went back and deleted it. Google Red Carpet Club and you'll find it.)
Since the Red Carpet chain has dissolved, that map probably doesn't exist any more. I kind of remember trying to look for it and not finding it but then someone (Breadman?) located it on a web archive.
Yes, it did not have all of the P4P places in Germany listed on it.
If you do find it, those clubs are mostly still active but now under separate ownership.
Hello,
I recently saw a post in this forum with a link to an interactive map that showed all of the p4p places in Germany. Can anyone point me to it? I can't find it and need it now!
Thanks!Could this be what you're looking for?
http://www.isaw-db.com/map_de.html
Hello,
I recently saw a post in this forum with a link to an interactive map that showed all of the p4p places in Germany. Can anyone point me to it? I can't find it and need it now!
Thanks!
The once ultimate FKK resource was Kaleu's which had great interactive map by regions, but since his "retirement" the map function isn't updated any longer. Still the club index list is easy to use and divided by town http://www.kaleus-clubindex.com/kaleu/deutsch/quicklist.php
A decent interactive map, although by town rather than region is http://redlightaddressbook.net/beta/maps.php. But be aware that many of the listings are for small parlors rather than FKK.
Another site with listing by regions is http://www.intime-adressen.de/index.php.
Njoy
With apologies to the mice at ignatmice and contributor/inspector twosorefeet, the "staff" at isaw are building an interactive map of FKK's and much more to include contact details of the locations, very valuable. As it doesn't appear to violate ISG url guidlines, I post it here.
http://www.isaw-db.com/
Well, I've the following link to a map. My system is incredibly slow tonight so I don't know if the links to the individual clubs work. By no means an exhaustive list. I still use Kaleu occasionally.
http://web.archive.org/web/20060423070234/http://www.fkk-200nackedeis.de/index2.html
Don't know if someone reported this before but here is a good website with information on clubs in Germany:
redlightaddressbook.net
Since I wont be in Germany until January 2008, I decided Id write my end of year report, just a brief reflection on my 2007 trips. Overall great experiences despite health problems, getting Diabetes and fracturing my arm in a car crash the day before my September trip.
1st trip of the year started on January 24th, and first stop was PT Dorsten. I hadn’t been in 4 months, and it was a very quiet day there. An ok day there but not the best I’ve had. Conclusion was that the place had gone downhill compared to my first adventures in 2006.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=556712&postcount=28
I don’t really do FKKs or Sauna clubs anymore but the following day I tried Livingroom in Kaarst. I remember being more impressed with the facilities than the services. Thinking back about it, I think if you only had 50 euro in your pocket, you could spend an entertaining day in Livingroom even without having sex. You could use all the facilities, eat the food, drink the free beer, perv around, hang out in the kino, maybe grope a few bottoms and boobs, and then jerk off in the Jacuzzi a few times. You wouldn’t be popular with the women, but you could do it. Infact next time I do a 3 or 4 day trip and am not feeling horny on the last day, I might go and do what I have described above.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=556735&postcount=3
Next Trip was on March 12th.
Started with an exploration of the Dortmund RLD. Did my first window girls in years.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=574739&postcount=10
Next day had my worst PT experience ever in the ripoff PT Ludingshausen.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573971&postcount=1297
Later that day like a change from chalk to cheese, I had the first of my great days in PT Selm
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573999&postcount=1298
In May I took another one for the Board, and hit the depressing but not rip off Blaue Lagune in Kaarst, an all inclusive €75 club staffed completely by Romanians.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=596146&postcount=1401
Then more great times in Selm
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=596385&postcount=38
June 25th My first meeting with Routard and Iseeu – two top men. A big thanks to Routard who went out of his way driving me around Germany that day. This was my first trip to the legendary Bernds:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614519&postcount=523
Next day hit Selm where the bubble had burst a little, still some great sessions though.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=616237&postcount=93
Last day I had a slight erotic enounter with a middle aged swining couple in a naturist Sauna in Dortmund, followed by my first German kino experience:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614590&postcount=13
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614603&postcount=14
Was just getting used to having Diabetes which I discovered in late July, I was looking very forward to my September trip, but managed to fracture my shoulder the day before flying out. Anyway with arm in sling and armed with painkillers I ventured off on Monday Sept 3rd. I met up with El Greco and we spent a disappointing day in PT Selm although I have my first encounter with the beautiful Nina. Following day was better and I met up with Iseeu and Sordid ways.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=641825&postcount=126
Iseeu kindly picked me up from Dortmund the following morning and we hit PT Krefeld along with Sordid ways. A good but not exceptional PT, I had a very bad first session there ruined by an old guy with really breath constantly staring up at me like he was a corpse. When I told the guys about it, we reckoned we should play some tricks on the forum.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=640943&postcount=1565
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=641210&postcount=1568
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=641418&postcount=1572
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=641462&postcount=1574
Here is the truthful Krefeld report,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=642081&postcount=1582
My last trip was a short 2 day trip in mid Novemeber, with just 2 visits to PT krefeld. First day was great but second wasn’t. I wouldn’t be in a rush back there. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=669566&postcount=1715
And I changed my username from Wan King to Smelly Vagina a while ago.
Roll on 2008, cant wait :D
This is another major benefit of going on sex trips that is never normally discussed here:
One of the great things about going on regular sex trips like I do is the accumulation of memories of the sex I had. Then every night at home, I go to my bed alone and have 2 great masturbation sessions where I relieve my experiences in great detail.
I don’t actually watch a lot of porn anymore, and rarely jerk off in front of the TV or PC these days, no it’s in bed at night in the darkness where my FKK and Partytreff memories come flooding back in vivid detail, and I get to fuck all those girls again for Free in my mind!!!
I call this Luxurious Masturbation because it’s so enjoyable, and you can’t beat that feeling of falling to sleep straight away after cumming, in the warm comfort of your own bed, unlike my poor old friends in their sexless marriages who have to wait till the wife has gone to bed, and then sneak off to the downstairs toilet with the laptop and find porn, cos they have only ever shagged 5 women in their lives and need that porn to fuel their fantasies cos they have no decent memories in their heads. I call that kind of masturbation “Budget Masturbation”.
I have my first Luxurious “wank” about 10 minutes after getting into bed, and it lasts about ½ hour, then sleep for a few hours, wake up and do it again. I often remember a certain club for many nights in a row, before moving on to another club. For instance for the last few nights its been FKK Cocoon, where I have had many very good sessions in 2006. Of course sometimes I mix it all up, and fantasise about having a threesome with one girl I had in maybe Club Tabulos and another from Partytreff Dorsten.
So this is where the investment of going on trips really pays off. The trip itself comes and goes very quickly but those intimate memories last a long time. Of course I don’t remember every session with every girl in my life, but in the darkness of night I have still so many really detailed memories of sessions from the last few years.
That’s why I love to collect photos of as many girls as I can, cos obviously the photos help bring back old memories as well. Pity all girls don’t allow photos.
Hi SV,
And we had thought that Wan King was gone for good!
he he cheers Jackyo
Ill always be a wanker no matter what my name :D
There is so much damn porn on the Internet, it drives me crazy sometimes.
What was an eye opener particularly, was learning how to download movies with Torrent files. Practically anything and everything ever filmed is out there.
Speaking of the advantages of the hobby, one advantage I've found is that I'm much more relaxed in my relationships with "civilian" women.
I know in the back of my mind where I can get it and that when I get it, its often times with women who can be several notches better service-wise than the ones I meet in normal life.
I don't have a desperate air about me and this has most women I hang out with totally puzzled.
I don't make unnecessary advances on them, weigh carefully my options in terms of cost, specifically the cost of extricating myself from an entanglement.
I think that I end up paying for it one way or the other so to some degree its much cheaper to go the more direct way: I pay for her time and after its over I go my way and she goes hers.
With "civilian" women, I sometimes pay over and over dealing with her quirks, her attitudes particularly if she is high maintenance and demanding of a lot of attention.
I will be visiting Bonn next week and was trying to decide between Bernd's and Samya. While I've been wanting to visit Bernd's for some time, I have not had good luck. I can't justify renting a car, and will rely on public transport & cabs to get around. The last time I went to Bernd's, it was closed and I spent a long time on trams & buses for nothing.
Are there any other FKK options closer to Bonn than Bernd's and Samya? In particular, I don't haven't seen much solid information regarding FKK Burg on Im Burgacker. Is that an option? Also, what is going on with Sudbad these days?
Eeyore
I will be visiting Bonn next week and was trying to decide between Bernd's and Samya. While I've been wanting to visit Bernd's for some time, I have not had good luck. I can't justify renting a car, and will rely on public transport & cabs to get around. The last time I went to Bernd's, it was closed and I spent a long time on trams & buses for nothing.
Are there any other FKK options closer to Bonn than Bernd's and Samya? In particular, I don't haven't seen much solid information regarding FKK Burg on Im Burgacker. Is that an option? Also, what is going on with Sudbad these days?
Eeyore
... there isn't much other than Burg but I've not read anything about it for a while.
Yes, your best bets are Bernds and Samya.
Sudbad used to have a connection with Bernds but no longer. It also has a reputation as being one of those places where you would go to be ripped off paying for 300 Euro bottles of Champagne.
You can also stop by Traum Paradies in Troisdorf-Spich. Its not an FKK club though but more an apartment bordello. You go in, they line the women up, you pick someone, have your session and then you leave.
Wiago in Leverkusen (to the East of Koeln) is very doable via S-bahn (not heard much about it since the change in ownership though). Babylon in Elsdorf would be reachable via a train-cab connection. Its to the west of Koeln.
Other than that, your next bets using public transport are in Duesseldorf: La Bedo, Blue Note, Dolce Vita (now Puro Lounge), Atrium (rebranded as Midnight).. and Living Room which is in Kaarst and reachable via S-bahn.
Also, you can try to get to Arena in Dormagen. Or its sister club, Residenz, which is somewhere in Koeln (I've not been yet).
Expanding your radius of operations further out, you'd next be looking at the Golden Triangle clubs toward the Dutch border. Then there is Wuppertal to the northeast and the Ruhrgebiet to the north.
Ekliges Lauern
12-08-07, 00:06
Wiago in Leverkusen (to the East of Koeln) is very doable via S-bahn (not heard much about it since the change in ownership though).
Tried it last summer on a weekday. OK to get to on public transportation. Lackluster selection. 3 ladies, none above 7 as I remember. Did one session (lackluster) and left. Would not return.
You are much, much better heading to Berndt's.
Has this ever happened to you in an FKK or Partytreff or anywhere??? Its important that you watch till the end of the video.
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/prostitute/video/xk1jv_prostitute_shortfilms
PS it hasnt happened to me yet.
Since newbies always wonder where they should go when they go to Germany for the first time, this thread points the way.
The following are the top three clubs based on number of postings since this forum was founded:
Palace 2,606
World 2,083
Oase 1,861
These clubs are all in Hessen, by the way, all accessible more or less from the FRA airport.
All large clubs with great "shock and awe" facilities.
I'll not say more (He he).
I was, by the way, considering redoing the indexes of the unorganized threads on this forum as I did last year/beginning of this year but, as usual, I need to find a chunk of time to do that between projects (yep, work does sometimes get in the way).
A friend of mine who has been salivating for years over my FKK adventures, but was unable for personal/financial reasons to take the plunge, is planning his first day of FKKing on Christmas day.
I've discouraged him from doing so for the obvious reasons, but it's the only day that works for him, as he'll be on his way to points east on a cheap last minute ticket and he can only manage a 24 hour lay over in Germany on Dec. 25th.
Any suggestions for which would be the best club to visit on Christmas day?
I've recommended Oase, if only because a bad selection at Oase is still better than a good selection at most other clubs, but I'm not sure, having had no personal experience, if that's right.
Has anyone here spent an FKK Christmas before?
[QUOTE=Iseeu]A friend of mine who has been salivating for years over my FKK adventures, but was unable for personal/financial reasons to take the plunge, is planning his first day of FKKing on Christmas day.
On Christmas day all club are closed.
On Christmas day all club are closed.
Are you sure? If I remember correctly from last week at Oase the signs said:
24th Dec: Closed
25th Dec: Open from 18.00 (6pm)
31th Dec: Closed
1st Dec: Open from 18.00 (6pm)
Hessen Bub
12-11-07, 00:02
Info from The Palace:
"Entweder ist nur der 24.12 geschlossen und es wird am 25.12. um 20:00Uhr geöffnet, oder der 24.12. und der 25.12. sind komplett geschlossen. Dies wird wegen Umbau noch die Woche geklärt.
Was Sivester angeht, so ist der 31.12. komplett geschlossen und es wird erst wieder am 01.01.08 um 20:00Uhr geöffnet."
Either 24th only will be closed and 25th open from 8pm or both days will be closed. To be decided this week. 31st is closded, 1st is open from 8pm
HB
Info from The Palace:
Either 24th only will be closed and 25th open from 8pm or both days will be closed. To be decided this week. 31st is closded, 1st is open from 8pm
HB
Palaca site says they are closed on 24, 25 & 31.
26-30 they will be opening 8PM to 4AM
I am back from my last visit to FKK land, so I owe you a report.
After my first time, last February, I resisted 5 months, but this time only 3. I know that for many you, fortunate guys who can visit often these places, 3 months is a very long time, for me too.
This time I planned my trip together with the fellow monger, of Swiss origin, I encountered during my last visit at Bernds. It’s a good thing that we became friends, but, due to his work engagements, we could share only a part of the tour.
This time I visited in order: Palace, Bernds, Yin Yang and Oase. Thus go to the appropriate threads to read more.
As last time, I am some days late in publishing it, but I like to take my time in writing reports, and indulge in recalling to my mind all the details. Is like living another time that experiences.
NOTE: If the administrator would allow me to edit my posts (e.g. with a temporary senior membership, like last time) I will be able to link them for an easier consultation.
BottySpanker
12-16-07, 21:09
Has anyone here spent an FKK Christmas before?I went to Palace last year on boxing day. Had a great time - good selection.
I'm planning on going to Frankfurt again, this time for Xmas and Boxing day. I'd like to do Oase (where I've never been) on xmas day, and World on Boxing day, but it will depend on if they're open.
Off topic but what a great story. I assume its true!!http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=660933&postcount=444
There was a discussion on the RF about this topic in connection with that recent article in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung about ColA. (Yes, this topic is sometimes discussed there too).
One guy's solution: avoid women who don't speak German well. This has been my suggestion too.
it seems not. today, on a german forum:
"blase ist voll und drückt also ab auf die toilette, welche leer war mein schwanz noch halb steif, handtuch runter toiletten tür auf rein jedoch besetzt von eine dame die mit gespreizten beine da saß und pinkelte - ich muss etwas überrascht gewesen sein. sie sagt nur hallo oh schon steif und schwupps hatte sie meinen schanz im mund - blies gut!!!
grinste mich an und meinte keine sorgen das kostet nichts ich steh nur drauf beim pinkel einen schwanz zu blasen
stand auf fragte mich ob ich sie sauber lecken will!"
my bladder was full, it was getting urgent, so off to the toilet. dick was still half erect, took my towel off, opened the door and …….. occupied, by a lady sitting there legs apart and having a good [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). i must have appeared a little surprised. she greeted me: hello, oh, already stiff? and in a flash my dick was in her mouth. good blowjob!!!
grinned at me, don’t worry, that cost nothing, i just love blowing dicks while i [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
stood up and asked if i wanted to lick her clean!
my bladder was full, it was getting urgent, so off to the toilet. dick was still half erect, took my towel off, opened the door and …….. occupied, by a lady sitting there legs apart and having a good [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). i must have appeared a little surprised. she greeted me: hello, oh, already stiff? and in a flash my dick was in her mouth. good blowjob!!!
grinned at me, don’t worry, that cost nothing, i just love blowing dicks while i [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
stood up and asked if i wanted to lick her clean!
the last sentence was the give away - smelly vagina speaks perfect german now, right? '-)))))
my bladder was full, it was getting urgent, so off to the toilet. dick was still half erect, took my towel off, opened the door and …….. occupied, by a lady sitting there legs apart and having a good [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). i must have appeared a little surprised. she greeted me: hello, oh, already stiff? and in a flash my dick was in her mouth. good blowjob!!!
grinned at me, don’t worry, that cost nothing, i just love blowing dicks while i [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
stood up and asked if i wanted to lick her clean!
one of the best fkk story i have ever heard :d :d :d
which fkk was it?
A poster on the Montreal board posted that an escort was giving him a massage...and while lying on his stomach with the girl riding his back...she started yelling at him that he needed to get in the shower right away. Seems she had her period while sitting on his back....
One of the best FKK story I have ever heard :D :D :D
Which FKK was it?Feigenblatt in Worms, new one. I couldn't remember at first so I searched the forum under "gespreizten Beine" = legs splayed, and came up trumps immediately :-)
Here's a cutting from the British Daily Telegraph.
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Ministers may ban prostitution as part of a campaign to tackle international [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).
Ms Harman is convinced a ban is necessary
The Government is studying the law in Sweden, where paying for sex has already been made illegal, Women's Minister Harriet Harman said.
Ms Harman said she was convinced that a ban on paying for sex was necessary to halt demand for sex workers trafficked into Britain.
She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that a ban was the "next step".
"I think we do need to have a debate and unless you tackle the demand side of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) which is fuelling this trade, we will not be able to protect women from it."
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Newspapers and all other media will also be banned from carrying sex ads. So little chance of opening an FKK club sex tours office in Oxford Street. Otherwise what a boost for German clubs. All those Swedes and Brits booking flights. Hahn will have to open another runway. Anyone for a residents visa?
it seems not. today, on a german forum:
"blase ist voll und drückt also ab auf die toilette, welche leer war mein schwanz noch halb steif, handtuch runter toiletten tür auf rein jedoch besetzt von eine dame die mit gespreizten beine da saß und pinkelte - ich muss etwas überrascht gewesen sein. sie sagt nur hallo oh schon steif und schwupps hatte sie meinen schanz im mund - blies gut!!!
grinste mich an und meinte keine sorgen das kostet nichts ich steh nur drauf beim pinkel einen schwanz zu blasen
stand auf fragte mich ob ich sie sauber lecken will!"
my bladder was full, it was getting urgent, so off to the toilet. dick was still half erect, took my towel off, opened the door and …….. occupied, by a lady sitting there legs apart and having a good [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). i must have appeared a little surprised. she greeted me: hello, oh, already stiff? and in a flash my dick was in her mouth. good blowjob!!!
grinned at me, don’t worry, that cost nothing, i just love blowing dicks while i [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
stood up and asked if i wanted to lick her clean!
i laughed like crazy reading this.
there are, indeed, clubs where the bathrooms facilities are unisex.
would ann landers or miss manners have any suggestion on how to deal with this?
i find myself sometimes in situations at clubs where i am not aware of any rules of etiquette which seem to apply.
on one of my first visits to a club i was taking a shower when in walks a naked woman to shower right next to me. she was friendly enough. was it okay to stare at her? offer to soap parts of her which she might find hard to reach? is it okay to make comments about her tits, ass or legs? would it be considered bad form to jerk off while watching her?
On one of my first visits to a club I was taking a shower when in walks a naked woman to shower right next to me. She was friendly enough. Was it okay to stare at her? Offer to soap parts of her which she might find hard to reach? Is it okay to make comments about her tits, ass or legs? Would it be considered bad form to jerk off while watching her?
Reminds me of my first visit to Heavensgate...it was early when we arrived. Didn't sleep that well and figured a hot shower was the thing I needed. Since it was so early nobody was down there...and in walks this hot chick who grabs the shower right next to me. And wouldnt you know, little breadman came right to attention...
Always wondered if i would have asked for a session if she would have given me a blow job right there in the shower.
There was a report on the BBC about the Polish-German border (the Oder-Neisse Grenze) being dismantled the other day.
This will certainly facilitate the flow of Polish girls to German clubs.
The other thought I had though related to the often-quoted expression: Gerade gestohlen, schon in Polen.
As it is German cars are stolen, driven across the border and taken as far east as possible, never to be found again.
...This will certainly facilitate the flow of Polish girls to German clubs. Don't think so. They have been perfectly free to travel and work in Germany for some time now. It is about extending the Schengen area. It has taken its time since the joining countries have to fulfill some security stuff on their boarders to countries outside Schengen.
The border was before just a minor nuisance, crossed easily by Germans and Poles for cheaper gasoline or cigarettes, or to go to work. Citizens of countries in the European Union have already been passing through the now closed checkpoints with little more than a flash of the identity card in most cases. The dismantling of the Polish/German border posts is a really a ceremonial nonevent
btw: It was not only Poland but also Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia
Don't think so. They have been perfectly free to travel and work in Germany for some time now. It is about extending the Schengen area. It has taken its time since the joining countries have to fulfill some security stuff on their boarders to countries outside Schengen.
The border was before just a minor nuisance, crossed easily by Germans and Poles for cheaper gasoline or cigarettes, or to go to work. Citizens of countries in the European Union have already been passing through the now closed checkpoints with little more than a flash of the identity card in most cases. The dismantling of the Polish/German border posts is a really a ceremonial nonevent
btw: It was not only Poland but also Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia and Slovenia
The BBC report did interviews of Germans who mostly expressed concern about increased criminality.
On the other side of the border, they mostly expressed relief at not being treated as second rate citizens anymore. They did say they expected to have to carry papers with them and present them if not at the border than further into the West.
Notice that the list does not (yet) include Romania and Bulgaria, the sources of a lot of talent these days.
This issue of cars being stolen is a real one. If you rent a car in Germany there is a list of countries you cannot take your car into (all to the East). Its all in the fine print.
A friend of mine had project work in Warsaw and he had to drive there every now and then. The rule was to drive as old a car as you can when you cross the border. Otherwise, you can expect that you will have people follow you and either try to make you pull over or wait for you to pull over. Then they take your car.
They won't take certain cars though. He was saying that if you drive a Jaguar across the Polish border, for example, they will stand back and admire the car but not touch it because they know they can't easily get spare parts for it.
You may have seen this before...
http://www.jibjab.com/view/210397
I personally want the 31 day extended orgasm.
Notice that the list does not (yet) include Romania and Bulgaria, the sources of a lot of talent these days.
Romania and Bulgaria are in the process of enhancing their boarder security system to be qualified for joining the Schengen territory. Many people confuse the EU with the Schengen agreement (The Maastricht Treaty transferred the Schengen acquis to the EU). There are countries in the Schengen agreement that are not in EU (f.ex. Norway) and there are countries in EU that have opted to keep their own control of their boarders (f.ex. UK and Ireland). Then you have countries that are not member of either (such as Switzerland). Schengen agreement and the boarder control has actually nothing to do with the right to work, but you are right, there are some concernes about criminals having easier access cross boarders, but at the same time there is increased control of the outer boarder of the new Schengen countries that people sometimes forget to take into account.
Then there is the right to work delay time for new members of the EU (such as Romania and Bulgaria).
The boarder between Poland and Germany has a lot of history (mostly connected to warfare) so there is a lot of symbolism (and emotions) attached to the whole thing which explains a lot of the media hype around it, but it really is a nonevent for all practical purposes.
Sorry for the off-topic rambling, but since it is the General thread it should be ok.
BottySpanker
12-23-07, 19:13
I personally want the 31 day extended orgasm.I've had it - it's over-rated.
Go for the 'all the children in the world singing together in perfect harmony' bollocks.
Or the money/power thing, that might be good.
I can't spell Russian.....yes go to rent-a-wreck for your hire car to eastern europe. As for the borders remember that the British are mightly pissed at the whole idea of Europe and will do and say anything to rubbish it, especially as the Brits are turning their island into Fortress UK. By contrast German TV was one big celebration of fireworks, bunting, booze and sawing border barriers ceremonially in half. When I first crossed the border years ago (for work) I couldn't understand why the line of cars on the German side were all full of single men----silly me.
There are countries in the Schengen agreement that are not in EU (f.ex. Norway) and there are countries in EU that have opted to keep their own control of their boarders (f.ex. UK and Ireland). Then you have countries that are not member of either (such as Switzerland). Hi Heino,
May I correct you: It's true that Switzelnad isn't part of the EU. However Switzerland – or more correctly – Swiss people agreed to belong to the "Schengener Raum". This happened through a votation in 2005.
Regards, Globus
Hi Heino,
May I correct you: It's true that Switzelnad isn't part of the EU. However Switzerland – or more correctly – Swiss people agreed to belong to the "Schengener Raum". This happened through a votation in 2005.
Regards, Globus
You are absolutely right, I stand corrected. Switzerland is indeed a part of the treaty, but yet to implement it. I believe it is scheduled to be implemented next fall.
You may have seen this before...
http://www.jibjab.com/view/210397
I personally want the 31 day extended orgasm.
I'd go for the money; the 31 day big-O would follow easily :D
Merry Christmas, everybody!
Kaare Olsen
12-28-07, 23:45
Dear all,
I am a Norwegian man often in Frankfurt on my way to work (transit, 24 hours). I love the FKK scene, but I would very much like to try some hardcore action. Like a gangbang/orgy. I have visit xtreff.com. Ok but not very nice. Very fare from Frankfurt city centre. What about club 188? Anyone how would like to met me in Frankfurt. For some hardcore party? I can travel on short notis. Best regards, K. O.
Seasons Greetings to all
The FKK scene surely is a blessing to one and all. But there was a similar scene years ago in the USA, until "Big Business" took over, as a result of supply and demand. Dubious laws. And profits.
In the 70's, early 80's brothels outside of Carson City, Nevada (the famed Pussycat Ranch), amongst many small operators, even the famed Mustang Ranch were reasonably priced_ O'l Joe Conforte kept his prices reasonable.
The Pussycat Ranch (just outside of Carson City) was an owner operated establishment. Small, compared to some of the neighboring establishments. $50. 00 a go. Drinks were $2. 00. Meals (free) were served. The service was first class. Friendly folks. (the black madam always remembered us, a classic character)
On many occassions, my friends and I would check in for a few days. There are hot springs not far away for rejuvenation. I could write a book on the fun we had. These were the golden days.
Sadly big business eventually took over. The hoo hah /big shot at the Moonlite Ranch bought up several of the brothels, raised the prices. Had a TV show. Importing porn stars. At 2-5000. 00 ++++ a session.
The laws in the USA on PFS remained the same. So it remains a sellers market.
Here is the price. Take it or leave it.
However there was a time. When there was no need to travel to Europa to have alot of fun for a reasonable bill. It was right here in our backyard. Sadly, that day is long gone. Due to archaic laws. Strato.
I don't go out of my way looking for bareback sex, I have done it with a hand full of working girls in the heat of the moment over the years, and yes it is STUPID, I even had an impromptu and very brief bareback experience in Partytreff selm last September. I have NOT caught STDs (lucky), but I am fascinated about these clubs, especially in an age where AIDS has been killing people for nearly 30 years, and yet any guy can walk into these clubs and fuck away bareback to his hearts content for very small money.
Up until about a year ago when I first visited Club Tabulos, I kind of believed that bareback clubs in Germany were stuff of myth, even though I had read some stuff on the original world sex guide, and met a punter in Amsterdam who confirmed their existence in the mid 90’s.
ALSO I remember very little mention on THIS forum about the subject up until about a year ago and I recall guys getting flamed for enquiring about it. Then around Sept 06, HollandMale reported on Club Tabulos and the availability of creampies. In my innocence I didn’t even know what creampies were at the time. For any of you that don’t know: It means cumming inside the woman. I then visited Club Tabulos and witnessed it for myself. Then info began to surface on the forum about certain women in Bernds performing it, and a swingers club whose name I don’t recall where they have a bareback gangbang regularly.
Some now along with http://www.club-tabulos.de, we have www.club-laluna-moers.de, and I’ve been informed that bareback is available in most clubs if you look hard enough. I also remember reading a report that a girl in Partytreff Dorsten barebacked with a guy, and I remember a local in PT Dorsten telling me that he has witnessed it there, but not since about 2004 he said.
Now only today in all of my innocence I discover there is even a forum dedicated to it. I won't write the web address here because Jackson doesn’t approve of posting other forums here, but if you go to Google and enter tabulosforum you should find it. Seems you have to pay to join it.
So what about STDS and AIDS?
Well when I visited Club Tabulos I was sure the clients were going to be real hardcore dudes, with shaved heads, loads of piercing and tattoos etc. I could not have been more wrong. Most were very middleclass men in there 40’s, 50’s, 60’s and upwards with big grey moustaches and comb over hairstyles. When I asked the one English-speaking girl about diseases, she said that there is no problem, that the girls take "precautions inside", which must mean spermicidle cream and sponges etc, and that they are tested every 2 weeks. If they have a problem they are then out. I know cream and sponges might SLIGHTLY help prevent a woman catching something but obviously they are not in the same league as condoms.
One thing I do wonder about though. I wonder do HIV positive (or with other STDS) guys ever go along to these clubs with the intent of trying to infect a girl? I'm sure it happens occasionally. Id say there have to be guys who come back from a sex trip to Thailand, discover they are HIV+, then go and decide to take some sort of weird revenge by trying to infect local women who perform bareback.
Has anyone any thoughts on this strange modern phenomena?
...and I’ve been informed that bareback is available in most clubs if you look hard enough.I've been around in the "Milieu" for more almost 20 years now, and I was offered bareback sex many times, without asking for it. I admit that a few times I accepted the proposal.
You all should know that bareback is, as Wan King mentions, available in many many places, even in conservative Bavaria.
This is no modern phenomena, there has always been bareback paysex and it will always be.
Beside the well known "official" bareback adresses like LaLuna or Club Tabulos, there is bareback in most FKK clubs (Bernds, Samya, Freude39, World, Palace, Oase, Golden Time, Finca Erotica, .), with many girls working in "Appartments" (in Cologne, Düsseldorf, Saarbrücken, Frankfurt, Hannover, Hamburg, Berlin, .) or other clubs (Traumparadies, .) and with street girls.
As there is no "official" bareback service in most locations cited above, I won't mention names of the girls. Girls are also reading the forums and they do not like to see their names mentionned in association with bareback.
Guys, asking the girls for bareback and mentionning that they read it on the internet and so putting pressure on the girls, are not likely to receive bareback service. If a girl is identifying one of her guests writing on the internet about bareback, he risks to get nothing anymore from her.
I know a guy who is "persona non grata" for certain girls, because he talked and wrote a bit to much.
Be sure, when a girls is offering you bareback, you are not the only one. Bareback is not always the rule, the girls often choose some of their frequent visitors and offer them bareback. Many other guests will never receive that service. Why? Sympathy, stupidity, extra money? Who knows?
This is no german phenomena, there is for example a belgian internet site that announces bareback gangbangs regularly. In Austria, girls offering bareback announce it clearly ("Ohne-Service") on the net, in newspapers, .
If you do not want to take a risk, always use condoms.
Even a girl who always uses condoms at work, is fucking bareback with her boyfriend for example, and you don't know where the boyfriend is fucking around, maybe bareback.
My sources tell me that bareback is available at most clubs. You just have to ask. I personally have never been offered it but this is what I've been told.
I have ended up in bareback mode for various reasons (the condom broke once and once we lost it and had to fish for it inside her).
I'm not interested in experiencing sloppy seconds. The thought of my boys swimming around with some other guy's stuff doesn't really appeal to me.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]My sources tell me that bareback is available at most clubs. You just have to ask.[QUOTE]That's right. Certain girls give you bareback if you just ask.
Yes, it's that old hygiene issue that bothers me too...if the girl doesn't wash the dishes so to speak things get a tad rancid. Has this once in Bernd's...nuf said.
I don't go out of my way looking for bareback sex, I have done it with a hand full of working girls in the heat of the moment over the years, and yes it is STUPID, I even had an impromptu and very brief bareback experience in Partytreff selm last September. I have NOT caught STDs (lucky), but I am fascinated about these clubs, especially in an age where AIDS has been killing people for nearly 30 years, and yet any guy can walk into these clubs and fuck away bareback to his hearts content for very small money.
One thing I do wonder about though. I wonder do HIV positive (or with other STDS) guys ever go along to these clubs with the intent of trying to infect a girl? I'm sure it happens occasionally. Id say there have to be guys who come back from a sex trip to Thailand, discover they are HIV+, then go and decide to take some sort of weird revenge by trying to infect local women who perform bareback.
Has anyone any thoughts on this strange modern phenomena?
Cim is common at several clubs even if condoms are required for fucking. Several diseases can be thus transmitted. (It DOES appear difficult to get aids from a woman at all through oral sex, either giving or receiving, and similarly difficult to get it from receiving oral sex from a man. There is some risk of getting it by giving oral sex to a man, but it doesn't seem that partytreff girls are getting aids. We wouldn't notice, of course, but surely the girls wouldn't do it if there were a risk. Note that the girls who do the most are at Mettmann, where they are certainly not coerced into doing anything.)
Bottom line: STDs are not a problem in the club scene. Of course, being tested every two weeks doesn't keep one from getting infected, and doesn't stop the disease spreading between infection and test. Basically, most customers are normal guys. As long as no-one is infected, people in this non-infected group can do what they want with each other and not get infected.
There are very few reports of heterosexual men getting AIDS from sex, which is logical if one understands how it spreads.
Yes, some prostitutes are infected with AIDS, but these tend to be needle-sharing drug-dependent ones and got aids via needles.
Before AIDS, bareback could be had easily from most working girls. I think AIDS is mainly an excuse to make a condom more acceptable, since it is more convenient for the girl.
AIDS isn't a real problem in the porn scene either.
Of course, the risk of getting AIDS through bareback vaginal or anal sex is higher than getting it from a blow job, especially for the girl, though that would only be a problem if the punter were infected.
Revenge? I doubt it. I suspect that such people, if they exist, learn that they are infected so late that revenge is no longer possible. Also, if one knows about the club scene, why go to Thailand in the first place?
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Warsteiner
01-01-08, 19:48
Yes, it's that old hygiene issue that bothers me too...if the girl doesn't wash the dishes so to speak things get a tad rancid. Has this once in Bernd's...nuf said.
I was speaking to Eleni in Samya (she was previously Jenny in Bernds) and she mentioned some extremely unhygenic things that were happening in Bernds, which is why she left and the reason that I'll never visit Bernds.
I was speaking to Eleni in Samya (she was previously Jenny in Bernds) and she mentioned some extremely unhygenic things that were happening in Bernds, which is why she left and the reason that I'll never visit Bernds.Unhygenic things are happening in other FKK clubs too, even at Samya. ;)
BTW, there are other reasons why Jenny had to leave Bernds. But there is no need to talk about it in a public forum.
Come on Dude, tell us about the these extremely unhygenic things??, I love gross details. :D
Let me guess:
A) Girls taking a shit and not washing either anus or hands afterwards
B) Girls doing CIM, not washing mouth out, and then DFKing another guy
C) Girls doing bareback and not washing their **** out afterwards
AM I right?
Hmm... I would guess C): Girls doing bareback and not washing after.
The "girls" at PT Mettmann do CIM routinely, spit it out onto a towel and then go on to the next guy.
Now this, I never found appealing but they never actually DFKed anyone after. In fact, there is no DFK there at all (which is probably for the better).
At PT Mettmann there is no routine of standing up after each guy to wash up either. Showering between sessions they do routinely at other PTs but at this one they just keep going on until they've drained everyone's balls. Then and only then do they go to take a break.
There is a set of red lights behind the bar at PT Mettmann which flashes words running across a lit screen. It says they guarantee everyone leaves with an empty sack (or something to that effect). Its true.
Come on Dude, tell us about the these extremely unhygenic things??, I love gross details. :D
Let me guess:
A) Girls taking a shit and not washing either anus or hands afterwards
B) Girls doing CIM, not washing mouth out, and then DFKing another guy
C) Girls doing bareback and not washing their **** out afterwards
AM I right?
Nope, it's none of the above. See below:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=630767&postcount=88
A) Girls taking a shit and not washing either anus or hands afterwards
Are you trying to tell us that you've never encountered a little "dressing" while tossing a salad?
I would add that she isn't the only girl to avoid Bernds. Over the years I've heard from girls (and in a vocal fashion) of some pretty rum things that they can be expected to perform. The most common critique of Bernds is that 'rolling on the Conti' (German slang) is an option not a requirement. But I'm talking a few years back when Bernds was really jumping.
There is not less or more bareback at Bernds than in other clubs.
No girl at Bernds is forced to do bareback with her clients. It is her only decision what service she offers to a client.
A few month ago at Goldentime: a girl was rubbing her **** on my erected penis and suddenly said: "If you want you can fuck me without condom."
It was the first time I was with that girl and she is a star girl at GT.
For my 2nd session I booked another GT star girl. I wanted to test things out. After having licked her for a while, I simply asked her if I could fuck her bareback. She answered: "Yes, but it costs 50 euro extra!" She even asked me to cum into her pussy.
So I could think that "rollin' on the conti" is an option at GT as well. :rolleyes:
But as I mentionned before, in every club there are girls which will do bareback with some of their clients!
Are you trying to tell us that you've never encountered a little "dressing" while tossing a salad?Oh yeah, I've used my tongue as toilet paper a few times :D
The "girls" at PT Mettmann do CIM routinely, spit it out onto a towel and then go on to the next guy. Silvia and Ute seem to always swallow. Janine (is this Miß Bigtit? ) swallows at least some of the time. They do go right on to the next guy in either case, though.
Now this, I never found appealing but they never actually DFKed anyone after. In fact, there is no DFK there at all (which is probably for the better). When I was in Mettmann last Saturday, Ute probably spent at least half an hour, if not much more, DFK. This between more normal sessions. Silvia does DFK as well.
At PT Mettmann there is no routine of standing up after each guy to wash up either. Showering between sessions they do routinely at other PTs but at this one they just keep going on until they've drained everyone's balls. Then and only then do they go to take a break. Right.
After reading the reports for the last few months about the sex vacations you fellas take, I have wondered how you can have so many sessions without getting a real sore dick. That is of course assuming you don't fuck 2 to 5 or 7 times a day in normal life.
After reading the reports for the last few months about the sex vacations you fellas take, I have wondered how you can have so many sessions without getting a real sore dick. That is of course assuming you don't fuck 2 to 5 or 7 times a day in normal life.
Like any real athlete, sometimes you just have to play through the pain :D
After reading the reports for the last few months about the sex vacations you fellas take, I have wondered how you can have so many sessions without getting a real sore dick. That is of course assuming you don't fuck 2 to 5 or 7 times a day in normal life.
As with any other addiction, you hang in there during the the bad times as well :-)
After reading the reports for the last few months about the sex vacations you fellas take, I have wondered how you can have so many sessions without getting a real sore dick. That is of course assuming you don't fuck 2 to 5 or 7 times a day in normal life.
Lube is the answer. That and minimizing contact with teeth.
I give her a minute to do a BJ then ask her to move on. In my old age, the old dick doesn't bounce back like it used to and it hates coming into contact with teeth.
Hey mates.
I've been thinking about going on group tour of FKK Clubs for a year now. Has anyone used: http://www.fkktour.com or a different service?
Any info is appericated!
Hey mates.
I've been thinking about going on group tour of FKK Clubs for a year now. Has anyone used: http://www.fkktour.com or a different service?
Any info is appericated!
... are do-it-yourselfers.
I've met folks every now and then who have used their services.
Its for those who don't want to pull the information together by themselves and who have anxieties about being in a foreign environment.
I say: sure go ahead and use them.
I myself would have anxieties visiting a place where I don't speak the language, etc..
Most guys on this forum... are do-it-yourselfers.
Well not really accurate... but our comrade in ehhm arms, the irreplaceable and one-off Wan King has been known to. See and search Bernd's thread for details of Wan King does the Mirror room. Priceless
Well not really accurate... but our comrade in ehhm arms, the irreplaceable and one-off Wan King has been known to. See and search Bernd's thread for details of Wan King does the Mirror room. PricelessI don't remember a mirror room. I do remember giving Vicky a good licking in the lounge upstairs though. Do tell please?
They must also be very worn down with all the use they get.....
Harry Dude
01-03-08, 21:27
I am sure an FKK Tour would be convenient, but I certainly enjoy the freedom of doing things according to my own schedule, and being able to change plans along the way. I would hate to have to leave a wonderful club simply because the others in the party want to leave.
As far as language problems are concerned, this has never been a big issue - even in places where foreigners are few and far between and we have no common language (my first experiences in Taipei springs to mind, as well as a place outside Beijing and some saunas in Hong Kong that mainly cater to locals). It is certainly no problem in Germany, where you can get by with a couple of words in any major european language. I've picked up almost all the German I know at these clubs, which explains my somewhat selective German vocabulary - completely useless for anything but speaking with hookers :-)
For trip to the big clubs in the Frankfurt area I simply see no value in an organized tour - these clubs must be the most easily accessible in the world: Fly in to FRA, then either rent a car, use a taxi (not to FKK World), or use public transport. Hotels nearby are inexpensive and plentiful. Restaurants of all sorts readily available.
I've been thinking about going on group tour of FKK Clubs for a year now. Has anyone used: http://www.fkktour.com or a different service?
Any info is appericated!
Kingwenslas
01-03-08, 22:31
Little kingwenslas is always sore after an fkk trip and it normally takes a few days to get back to normal. Back in February 2007 (after visiting LR, Düsseldorf) rather worryingly it took me over a fortnight to get back to normal (that’s what happens when you visit an fkk with Routard).
So, on my last trip I consciously decided to try and not get sore. I even discussed it with some of the girls. One suggested that she should only give me a blowjob for most of the session – so we tried that and it worked a treat.
With reference to what Jackyo said about teeth – well, I’ve only ever had one girl who used her teeth (in Oase). She even seemed to be completely oblivious to what she was doing and it only took seconds for me to become sore.
Another suggestion I had from one of the girls was to use a different brand of condom, as maybe I am allergic to that particular make of rubber. This I will try on my next trip and report back. BTW, why do all the clubs seem to use the same brand of condom (London?) and also, what image does this name conjure up in the eyes of non Brits? Is someone trying to kid the gullible into thinking that London is the place to go for fun?
Kingwenslas
Ekliges Lauern
01-03-08, 22:32
I've picked up almost all the German I know at these clubs, which explains my somewhat selective German vocabulary - completely useless for anything but speaking with hookers :-)
I have that problem as well. I speak German but my FKK Deutsch is much stronger than my business Deutsch. I'm always paranoid that my FKK Deutsch is going to come out in a business meeting. I'm worried that I will start using du instead of Sie and ask a collegue in a meeting if I can have a BJ in the Kino.
.....that I turned up at the bosses garden party and offered to pay 50 euro entrance, asked for a key and looked for the locker, then changed into a towel and shower sandals.
BTW, why do all the clubs seem to use the same brand of condom (London?) and also, what image does this name conjure up in the eyes of non Brits? Is someone trying to kid the gullible into thinking that London is the place to go for fun?
Does London have a monopoly on the condom supply to these clubs?
And as to why one would associate sex with London, I just don't know. Whatever happened to No sex please, we're British?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Sex_Please,_We're_British
I've had numerous women use teeth on me hence my extreme aversion to aggressive BJs. It gotten to the point where I can't even watch films of aggressive BJs with Zahneinsatz being performed. I skip over those scenes quickly.
Well not really accurate... but our comrade in ehhm arms, the irreplaceable and one-off Wan King has been known to. See and search Bernd's thread for details of Wan King does the Mirror room. Priceless
.. there is another sense to "do-it-yourself". :)
How could I forget!
I have that problem as well. I speak German but my FKK Deutsch is much stronger than my business Deutsch. I'm always paranoid that my FKK Deutsch is going to come out in a business meeting. I'm worried that I will start using du instead of Sie and ask a collegue in a meeting if I can have a BJ in the Kino.
.. that I am going to say something inappropriate to someone in German simply because I am used to saying it to working girls at FKK clubs or from having read it often on the RF.
I once described a friend to another one as naturgeil. She looked at me like I had taken on another persona, kind of like: where in the world did I pick up the word naturgeil?
It certainly wasn't from hanging out with her.
Or I've used the word saunieren which the RF guys use as a verb "to sauna".
Thanks for the info.
Since I will be going alone (most of my friends are penny pushers and don't want to travel overseas) I thought it would be more fun to have some mates to check the ladies out, and exchange stories, rather then to go at it solo.
I am sure an FKK Tour would be convenient, but I certainly enjoy the freedom of doing things according to my own schedule, and being able to change plans along the way. I would hate to have to leave a wonderful club simply because the others in the party want to leave.
As far as language problems are concerned, this has never been a big issue - even in places where foreigners are few and far between and we have no common language (my first experiences in Taipei springs to mind, as well as a place outside Beijing and some saunas in Hong Kong that mainly cater to locals). It is certainly no problem in Germany, where you can get by with a couple of words in any major european language. I've picked up almost all the German I know at these clubs, which explains my somewhat selective German vocabulary - completely useless for anything but speaking with hookers :-)
For trip to the big clubs in the Frankfurt area I simply see no value in an organized tour - these clubs must be the most easily accessible in the world: Fly in to FRA, then either rent a car, use a taxi (not to FKK World), or use public transport. Hotels nearby are inexpensive and plentiful. Restaurants of all sorts readily available.
Whats the general opinion here on Shaving your balls?
I always shave my cock and balls before I go on a trip. Usually with a razor and shave gel, but today I received an electric hair trimmers that I bought on ebay for a tenner, which was the advice of one of the Krefeld ladies. Even though you end up with stubble, instead of a clean shave its so much easier with the trimmers. Apparently the working girls find stubble acceptable.
On my last trip we got around to talking about hygiene, because she complimented me on freshly shaved Frank and Beans. She said the girls all prefer shaved genitals because they are cleaner, and its easier to spot STDS or any other nasties. Also girls hate getting pubes in their mouths when blowing. She reckoned less than half of the clientele shave, and obviously some guys might have difficultly explaining to the wife why they decided to start shaving after 20 years of marriage.
She said that she wished all men would just follow the basics: clean hair, shaved face, fresh breath, short nails, and at least Trimmed Balls. I always follow these basics too.
Thanks for the info.
Since I will be going alone (most of my friends are penny pushers and don't want to travel overseas) I thought it would be more fun to have some mates to check the ladies out, and exchange stories, rather then to go at it solo.
I mean this in the sense of your chemistry with the women at these clubs but also in terms of the chemistry between the dudes on your tour, if you do the tour thing.
I travelled once to Germany with a Canadian dude who had read a posting I had made on another forum and had replied to my posting.
I planned a visit, mentioned it to him and he said he would tag along. He had participated on one of these organized tours once, was interested in coming along to share expenses and save on the tour fee. (By the way, the only expenses you really can save in hooking up with someone are in car rental and gasoline expenses).
He had gone with a tour initially because he speaks no German, had never been and was glad to have company.
The biggest negative was that he didn't always get along with the other guys on his tour (the participants and the tour organizers). There were some difficult personalities, guys who had a different concept of when to get up in the morning, what to do when not at a club, when to leave a club, different club preferences, different food preferences. You will meet up with all sorts of dudes, some of whom are just totally socially inept.
I don't doubt that the guys who run these tours earn their keep. They commit to being with the group 24/7 for the duration of each tour, interpreting the whole time for those who don't speak German, plus dealing with the difficult personalities.
Whats the general opinion here on Shaving your balls?
I always shave my cock and balls before I go on a trip. Usually with a razor and shave gel, but today I received an electric hair trimmers that I bought on ebay for a tenner, which was the advice of one of the Krefeld ladies. Even though you end up with stubble, instead of a clean shave its so much easier with the trimmers. Apparently the working girls find stubble acceptable.
On my last trip we got around to talking about hygiene, because she complimented me on freshly shaved Frank and Beans. She said the girls all prefer shaved genitals because they are cleaner, and its easier to spot STDS or any other nasties. Also girls hate getting pubes in their mouths when blowing. She reckoned less than half of the clientele shave, and obviously some guys might have difficultly explaining to the wife why they decided to start shaving after 20 years of marriage.
She said that she wished all men would just follow the basics: clean hair, shaved face, fresh breath, short nails, and at least Trimmed Balls. I always follow these basics too.
I also shave my nut sack. An electric hair trimmer helps out to get most out of the way, then you can shave. I think the girls are more apt to suck and lick your balls when they are shaved. I personally don't like it when a girl starts biting your balls. I like licking and sucking but no biting. I don't want any damage down there. :) However, I would not shave until 24 hours prior to sexual encounter in case of a nick or cut since this can allow an infection or STD to enter.
Harry Dude
01-06-08, 11:01
If you don't mind the pain, you should try getting a full brazilian wax. I've done this a few times, and it turned out that being completely smooth with no stubble at all (pubic area, shaft, balls, ass) was something that the some of the girls really, really liked. I still remember an experience at FKK World where the girl just couldn't stop sucking and fondling my cock and ass.
Whats the general opinion here on Shaving your balls?
I always shave my cock and balls before I go on a trip. Usually with a razor and shave gel, but today I received an electric hair trimmers that I bought on ebay for a tenner, which was the advice of one of the Krefeld ladies. Even though you end up with stubble, instead of a clean shave its so much easier with the trimmers. Apparently the working girls find stubble acceptable.
I mean this in the sense of your chemistry with the women at these clubs but also in terms of the chemistry between the dudes on your tour, if you do the tour thing.
I travelled once to Germany with a Canadian dude who had read a posting I had made on another forum and had replied to my posting.
I planned a visit, mentioned it to him and he said he would tag along. He had participated on one of these organized tours once, was interested in coming along to share expenses and save on the tour fee. (By the way, the only expenses you really can save in hooking up with someone are in car rental and gasoline expenses).
He had gone with a tour initially because he speaks no German, had never been and was glad to have company.
The biggest negative was that he didn't always get along with the other guys on his tour (the participants and the tour organizers). There were some difficult personalities, guys who had a different concept of when to get up in the morning, what to do when not at a club, when to leave a club, different club preferences, different food preferences. You will meet up with all sorts of dudes, some of whom are just totally socially inept.
I don't doubt that the guys who run these tours earn their keep. They commit to being with the group 24/7 for the duration of each tour, interpreting the whole time for those who don't speak German, plus dealing with the difficult personalities.You're definately right!
I plan to come in May, I will watch the forum and see if anyone else wants to party it up around the same time.
Quick question.
If BBBJ is not included in the session rate, usually how much extra is it for BBBJ?
If you don't mind the pain, you should try getting a full brazilian wax. I've done this a few times, and it turned out that being completely smooth with no stubble at all (pubic area, shaft, balls, ass) was something that the some of the girls really, really liked. I still remember an experience at FKK World where the girl just couldn't stop sucking and fondling my cock and ass.
This brings to mind the scene from the Steve Carrel movie "40 Year Old Virgin" where he has his chest hair waxed.
I heard an interview with him on the radio and that waxing was for real. And it hurt for real too.
He couldn't take off his shirt for months because the waxing was so effective.
I think I'll pass on a waxing job on the nut sack. Shaving I've done and actually gotten compliments from women who prefer it that way.
I just want to give some tip for non-white dudes when visiting clubs.
Germany traditionally is single culture and race society. German has very unique national charactors such as highly discipline, highly efficiency, super cleanness, inflexibility, highly burocracy etc. The make german very unique nationality which is clearly different from other and his european neighbor. Modern germany already become immigration society with large foreign population specially after schengen convention. But foreign population has hard time to intergrate into german society because of unique german charactors. Foreigner regardless race is clearly discriminated in all aspect. Natiionality group suffered most is Turkish and Polish which are major foreign population.
Some club has possible discriminated door policy which lists below
Gold time
There is mutilpe reports on german forum. One story I remebered is that one german, one dutch, one white american and one Latino american were refused to enter the club initally. I has talked with an asian and a turkish guy who have been refused and also aloowed to enter. Thus it is really uncertain if you can get in or not.
Planet Happy Garden
There is story on german forum that a german and an indian cannot get in.
FKK club in Dortmund area
This include FKK Aperbecker, Happy FKK, PartyTreffen Airport, I fand some report mentioned on german forum that it is germen only club traditionally. There is no current report about door policy. There is one by darker vader confirmed Partytreffen airport.
PitShop in Muenster
This club is filliated with Partytreffen airport. I have visited once and allowed to enter. The receiption was very cold and I do not knowed this club realtion to airport partytreffen that time. When I saw back, I will say it is not good idear to visit this club for nonwhite person.
Please add to this list if you have refused to enter club.
German discrimination is against certain nationality group cross the race line, mostly turkish and polish. Thus for dude, your look remotely connected this group, speak some English first even you can speak german and say you come from USA. In general, american will get favored treatment because german somehow admire america.
I personally avoid german provider unless she approach me initally. I feel the girls from other country provides more friendly service.
For black dude, you do not need to visit the FKK club. German woman is famous about prefered black dude and Black guy can just hangon on the disco to get freebee.
I hope this info can help.
For those who fly into Frankfurt often, need some info...you can Pm me if needed. Have two hours to kill before my buddy show's up...need a place to chill out while waiting. He'll be driving to the hotel, so a bar would be preferable...any suggestions?
I just want to give some tip for non-white dudes when visiting clubs.
Germany traditionally is single culture and race society. German has very unique national charactors such as highly discipline, highly efficiency, super cleanness, inflexibility, highly burocracy etc. The make german very unique nationality which is clearly different from other and his european neighbor. Modern germany already become immigration society with large foreign population specially after schengen convention. But foreign population has hard time to intergrate into german society because of unique german charactors. Foreigner regardless race is clearly discriminated in all aspect. Natiionality group suffered most is Turkish and Polish which are major foreign population.
Some club has possible discriminated door policy which lists below
Gold time
There is mutilpe reports on german forum. One story I remebered is that one german, one dutch, one white american and one Latino american were refused to enter the club initally. I has talked with an asian and a turkish guy who have been refused and also aloowed to enter. Thus it is really uncertain if you can get in or not.
Planet Happy Garden
There is story on german forum that a german and an indian cannot get in.
FKK club in Dortmund area
This include FKK Aperbecker, Happy FKK, PartyTreffen Airport, I fand some report mentioned on german forum that it is germen only club traditionally. There is no current report about door policy. There is one by darker vader confirmed Partytreffen airport.
PitShop in Muenster
This club is filliated with Partytreffen airport. I have visited once and allowed to enter. The receiption was very cold and I do not knowed this club realtion to airport partytreffen that time. When I saw back, I will say it is not good idear to visit this club for nonwhite person.
Please add to this list if you have refused to enter club.
German discrimination is against certain nationality group cross the race line, mostly turkish and polish. Thus for dude, your look remotely connected this group, speak some English first even you can speak german and say you come from USA. In general, american will get favored treatment because german somehow admire america.
I personally avoid german provider unless she approach me initally. I feel the girls from other country provides more friendly service.
For black dude, you do not need to visit the FKK club. German woman is famous about prefered black dude and Black guy can just hangon on the disco to get freebee.
I hope this info can help.
I wouldn't paint all of German society with the same brush. Its not any worse or any better anywhere else.
Some of this is really just fear of the unknown. Most EE women don't see blacks or Arabs or Turks where they come from.
On the other side of the coin, Germans have a lot of contact with Turks (this explains their animosity towards them). So too much contact is not a good thing either.
As I've said before, just one bad experience with a black person, say, and they tend to generalize that they don't want to service blacks.
Your whole ethnic group takes on a bad reputation based on that one bad experience, whatever it might be.
If a club doesn't want to let you in or a woman refuses you service, vote with your feet and your money and take your business elsewhere, its just that simple.
It makes no sense to try to force yourself onto someone who has a predisposition against you, however that predisposition might have been formed.
Part of this "discrimination" is simply the fact that most women don't want to have communication problems with you.
I have a friend from Taiwan who would travel often to Hong Kong. There is discrimination between Cantonese speakers and Mandarin speakers there, he would tell me. This is not anything I was even aware of. He would get in line to buy something at a store but when he would open his mouth, he would be totally ignored.
And we think that discrimination is solely a black versus white thing.
If you speak fluent, aktzenloses and gramatically correct German, you position yourself as an educated person to Germans (and German women). This will trump anything whatever your skin color.
I have a black friend who lived in Frankfurt for decades. He speaks fluent German, has a track record of a lot of success with the ladies and is welcome anywhere (well, just about anywhere.. the former DDR is still rather rough for non-Germans).
If you are monolingualist, do go out and learn a few German phrases for survival purposes but I don't recommend that folks butcher the German language lest you come across as an uneducated person. Its also quite painful to the ears.
But the same applies to foreigners who butcher the English language. Native English speakers are equally impatient and intolerant with them.
To paraphrase Frankenstein, Tonto and Tarzan: "Inarticulate, bad. Unintelligible, bad. Uneducated, bad. Fire, bad."
Impressions matter. Position yourself as being well groomed, polite, courteous and funny; in effect, traits women look for in men whether they are professionals or not.
The women may be pros but its not so much: "I've got 50 Euros and now you need to do what I ask you to do." You still have to charm them and treat them well as you would women in real life.
Quick question.
If BBBJ is not included in the session rate, usually how much extra is it for BBBJ?
Most clubs have BBBJ as standard.
There aren't many where there is a surcharge for it.
The only ones I can think of are Cocoon and Heavensgate and there the minimum session with as opposed to without might cost a bit more (I can't recall exactly: maybe 5 Euros more for a basic 20 minute session? Something like that)
Je ne m'en souviens plus
Hessen Bub
01-09-08, 17:28
Sylt does charge 50 EUR extra for BBBJ. And FKK Europa in Leipzig did. Do they still do?
HB
Doctor_Skank
01-09-08, 20:06
germany traditionally is single culture and race society. german has very unique national charactors such as highly discipline, highly efficiency, super cleanness, inflexibility, highly burocracy etc. the make german very unique nationality which is clearly different from other and his european neighbor. modern germany already become immigration society with large foreign population specially after schengen convention. but foreign population has hard time to intergrate into german society because of unique german charactors. foreigner regardless race is clearly discriminated in all aspect.
i agree with jackyo that in general germany is quite liberal in it's relations with foreigners, most foreigners i know feel quite comfortable there. there are exceptions to every rule however and curiously enough, race relations seem to have been actually getting worse in the last few years which is largely due to increased criminal behavior among foreign youth in germany. more and more germans are unhappy with the behavior and increasing numbers of foreigners who completely discrespect the german characteristics described in your post.
most ee women don't see blacks or arabs or turks where they come from.
ee women have more contact with turks than just about any other nationality. there are numerous turks working in all ee countries and ee girls often go to turkey on holiday due to visa-free travel. moreover, there is a lot of prejudice traditionally against turks in russia/ukraine/moldova as seemingly everybody knows somebody who was raped and beaten by turks. whether or not this is true is another question.
nonetheless, if anything the reason ee girls often don't like turks is because they know too much about them already.
having travelled much of ee, especially the russian-speaking areas, turks are the one foreign nationality you are most likely to come across.
blacks and arabs are indeed quite strange for ee girls at first, but i have seen both (and turks) in fkks enjoying themselves, so it is probably just luck of the draw. the major frankfurt clubs get a lot of traffic and there always seems to be a few black guys there.... and not just security... :)
if you speak fluent, aktzenloses and gramatically correct germanakzentfreies
for black dude, you do not need to visit the fkk club. german woman is famous about prefered black dude and black guy can just hangon on the disco to get freebee.
are you speaking from experience or is this another case of a friend of a friend of a friend told me that once... then again if hangon in the disco means bottom feeding, well...
I don't recommend that folks butcher the German language lest you come across as an uneducated person. Its also quite painful to the ears.I guess there was a bit of pain inflicted to the German ear:D:D:D
If you speak fluent, aktzenloses and gramatically correct Germanakzentfreies
Ekliges Lauern
01-09-08, 22:47
If you speak fluent, aktzenloses and gramatically correct German, you position yourself as an educated person to Germans (and German women). This will trump anything whatever your skin color.
My accent is simply horrible, but my grammar is pretty strong. Inside an FKK machts nicht. Most of the ladies are not native speakers either. On the street in Germany, most Germans seem surprised when they hear an American speaking German (no way I can hide I'm an American with my accent). I've had some pretty friendly and pleasant conversation in German with the locals. That said, I rarely use German in a business context as it isn't up to snuff. I'm also not looking for freebees, although it has happened a couple times over the years in Germany.
So I wouldn't get overly hung up on accent if you don't plan on living or doing business in Germany.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080109/od_nm/brothel_dc;_ylt=AikcYo5p30NVN6mP1k1k2wwuQE4F
akzentfreies
Es gibt aequivalente Ausdruecke dafuer. There are equivalent expressions which say the same thing. Same difference.
akzentlos
without an accent
accentless {adj}
accent-free {adj}
Any other grammar or vocabulary questions out there? :)
If anyone wants to play around with the suffixes -los and -frei, one can try them in combination with hemmung, problem (yes, its the same word in German as it is in English), ahnung.
There are nuances in meaning in comparing the two.
It comes down also to which is more commonly heard in daily use: ahnungslos for example, takes the prize over ahnungsfrei.
Then are there are the similarities between the suffixes -bar and -lich.
I would like to start making hotel reservations and deciding what FKK or Suana clubs to visit and would like some help. FYI, this will be my first trip to Europe and will try to use public transit.
Since I am flying into Amsterdam I was thinking of visiting Ying Yang first, but discovered the hotels in Roemond are very expensive. So staying as flexible as possible I thought I would visit Goldentime first. Then noticing how close a lot of the clubs are in this area I thought of my Big Question.
Is there a city that is close to say, YY and GT, that I could use public transit? Would Venlo be a good choice? Also any suggestions on inexpensive clean hotels is needed.
Thanks,
Chukar
I would like to start making hotel reservations and deciding what FKK or Suana clubs to visit and would like some help. FYI, this will be my first trip to Europe and will try to use public transit.
Since I am flying into Amsterdam I was thinking of visiting Ying Yang first, but discovered the hotels in Roemond are very expensive. So staying as flexible as possible I thought I would visit Goldentime first. Then noticing how close a lot of the clubs are in this area I thought of my Big Question.
Is there a city that is close to say, YY and GT, that I could use public transit? Would Venlo be a good choice? Also any suggestions on inexpensive clean hotels is needed.
Thanks,
Chukar
You mention a couple of things: public transport, Amsterdam, Ying Yang, Goldentime, Venlo, Roermond.
Bottom line: to get around the Golden Triangle you will need a car or be resigned to taking cabs between Yin Yang and GT which can get expensive (I say this because you find hotels in Roermond expensive. How much is expensive to you? Hotels in the countryside should run you about 35 to 40 Euros a night.)
Assuming you are a purist about public transport, you should know that public transport is available but infrequent. It is a rural area.
I once thought I'd find a way to get to Wildenrath by bus and found there is one bus per day from Duesseldorf which goes out that way and one bus per day going back. Miss that bus and you are stuck in the middle of a cow pasture.
Secondly, train lines tend to branch out from main cities such as Duesseldorf and Koeln, d.h. you might be able to take a train out from Duesseldorf to Kaldenkirchen near Goldentime but to get from Kaldenkirchen to somewhere else no matter how close by may require you to return to Duesseldorf so you can hook up with another westbound train line to take you out again.
To be sure, visit www.vrr.de and pull down their rail network map.
The clubs in this neck of the woods are not exactly public transport friendly.
The clubs directly in Duesseldorf, Koeln and in the Ruhr are much better suited to carless travel but you seem dead set on visiting GT (nice club but its way too hectic for my taste) and Yin Yang (never been).
If I were in your shoes, I'd base myself in Duesseldorf and do day trips from there.
My accent is simply horrible, but my grammar is pretty strong. Inside an FKK machts nicht. Most of the ladies are not native speakers either. On the street in Germany, most Germans seem surprised when they hear an American speaking German (no way I can hide I'm an American with my accent). I've had some pretty friendly and pleasant conversation in German with the locals. That said, I rarely use German in a business context as it isn't up to snuff. I'm also not looking for freebees, although it has happened a couple times over the years in Germany.
So I wouldn't get overly hung up on accent if you don't plan on living or doing business in Germany.
... with a slight foreign accent exotic and appealing.
Their curiosity takes over, they ask questions and want to know more about you. Svenja at Bernds thought I was pulling her leg when I said I wasn't from there and didn't live there either.
If your grammar is solid and you don't make sentences like Ich nicht verstehen then you don't belong in the same category as the Anatolian peasant who has moved into the house next door, cooks stinky food using too much garlic, repairs his car and washes it on the street on Sundays (No one works on Sundays and this includes washing your car and mowing your lawn) and has unruly, unintelligible kids who hang out on the street until the late hours of the night. These folks they don't have a very good impression of.
FYI, this will be my first trip to Europe and will try to use public transit.
YY and GT are only close if you have a car.
Option 1: stick to GT only. More than enough eye candy there to make your dick sore for days. Take the train to Kaldenkirchen and make it your base. Then you can cab over to GT. There is a nice and reasonably priced hotel (45 euros/night for single) by the train station, Hotel zur Post that I would personally recommend. Great breakfast and friendly owner too:
http://www.hotelzurpost-nettetal.de/anfahrt.html
Option 2: stick close to an urban hotel in Dusseldorf (plenty of cheap hotels there) and go to Living Room (sister club of GT). Very easy to get to by public transport. From Dusseldorf Hbf, take line S28 in the direction of Kaarst and get off at Ikea stop. Club is just a 5 minute walk from there. Excellent facilities, good food, not as many girls as GT but there are gems there.
Option 3: Take train to Koln and hit Samya. Plenty of info in Samya thread, including directions on how to get there by public transport.
The purpose of my trip is to see a little of Europe and have as much sex with beautiful European women as my old self can take! Sore Dick, being a limiting factor for a FKK amateur like mysel: ))
Gentlemen, Thank You very much for your help.
Jackyo, I am Not a public transit lover, in fact have not been on a train or bus in over 40yrs. It is the fact I have never been to Europe, so I am very reluctant to rent a car when it seems like many of the Forum members get around fine on public transit. Other than the facts that I am landing at Amsterdam and staying for a week, everything else is Flexible. This is why I am asking questions now and trying to decide where to go based on ease of travel and reasonable cost of hotels.
So, Woof Woof I might take your advice since it does sound like GT tends to get very crowded. If I go to Dusseldorf for LR and then Koln for Samya and Bernds, is there any other FKKs in these 2 cities you would recommend I visit?
Thanks again, for all your help it is greatly needed and appreciated!
Woof Woof, I did check out the hotels in Dusseldorf and it looks you are right. Great looking hotels at bargin prices.
So, Woof Woof I might take your advice since it does sound like GT tends to get very crowded. If I go to Dusseldorf for LR and then Koln for Samya and Bernds, is there any other FKKs in these 2 cities you would recommend I visit?
Woof Woof, I did check out the hotels in Dusseldorf and it looks you are right. Great looking hotels at bargin prices.
GT is a large club. Can it get crowded? Yes but is that a bad thing? Not necessarily. It is probably a better club to visit in the summer so the crowd can spill over into the garden.
If you like large, noisy, hectic clubs, you will like GT. You have to figure out for yourself what types of clubs appeal to you. It probably is the jewel in the crown, so to speak, of the Golden Triangle clubs. I find it rather sterile though and lacking in a soul (like I do large clubs in general), kind of like a certain presidential candidate who has been accused of not having a soul.
Smaller, more relaxed clubs with a soul are more my scene.
For the record, the other clubs in the Golden Triangle (the Grenzgebiet in general) are: Wildenrath, PHG, Yin Yang. I believe Villa Vertigo is out that way too but I've never been.
Duesseldorf has a number of FKK clubs directly in the city: Blue Note, Labedo, the former Tropicana in Erkrath (can't keep track of what its name is nowadays), and the former Dolce Vita (now named the Puro Lounge). I've been to all of them and my preference is Blue Note. It is, by the way, a very small club.
In Koeln, there is Samya which has had a lot written about it and is my personal recommendation to a newbie. Sudbad in Koeln-Bickendorf does not get good reviews. We need a review of Residenz, by the way. It is in this neck of the woods too and very new. My contacts at the RF wanted to drag me out there last time I was there but I passed. New clubs tend to go through a shakedown cruise phase before they get their acts together.
If you are in the mood for a bordello type setting, Traum Paradies in Troisdorf-Spich is doable by S-bahn. (Blue Note also offers an private apartment alternative if that is more your thing.)
Then there is Bernds which is not directly in a city setting but semi-accessible. This is not, however, a club I recommend for newbies to visit for a first experience.
Yes, Living Room is accessible by public transport from Duesseldorf. It is a sister club to GT.
Venturing out from Duesseldorf, there are even a couple of PTs which you can easily access by public transport. PT Krefeld and PT Mettmann come to mind instantaneously.
I could start describing clubs in Wuppertal and the Ruhr, etc.. but I'll stop here.
One thing about hotels: check the Messe calendar before you book your trip as when they have large trade fairs at these cities the hotels fill up quickly and they tend to jack up their rates.
Doctor_Skank
01-12-08, 18:10
Es gibt aequivalente Ausdruecke dafuer. There are equivalent expressions which say the same thing. Same difference.
Any other grammar or vocabulary questions out there? :)
If anyone wants to play around with the suffixes -los and -frei, one can try them in combination with hemmung, problem (yes, its the same word in German as it is in English), ahnung.
There are nuances in meaning in comparing the two.
It comes down also to which is more commonly heard in daily use: ahnungslos for example, takes the prize over ahnungsfrei.
Then are there are the similarities between the suffixes -bar and -lich.
Not to nitpick, but "akzentloses" isn't correct usage in that situation, i.e. describing one's German language skills. Even though -los and -frei can be substituted in many cases there are still better and worse forms of usage. It'll be understood, but it doesn't sound really German...
Ask your local Germanist(-in)... I did just to make sure... )))
Not to nitpick, but "akzentloses" isn't correct usage in that situation, i.e. describing one's German language skills. Even though -los and -frei can be substituted in many cases there are still better and worse forms of usage. It'll be understood, but it doesn't sound really German...
Ask your local Germanst(-in)... I did just to make sure... )))
.. ask my local Muttersprachler(in), that is.
I had dinner this past New Year's Eve with a German friend who I had a long discussion with about verkaufbar and verkaeuflich, of all things.
She thought verkaeuflich was the better way to go. Why?
She really couldn't explain. It just sounded right to her.
Sie is from Hannover and the Hannoveraner claim to have a monopoly on deciding what is correct and what is not correct language-wise as they speak authentic Hoch Deutsch.
Do I learn something every day? Yes, I do.
I do aspire to infallible status such as the Pope has but it is to this day, just an aspiration. :)
Felipe2006
01-12-08, 23:28
.. ask my local Muttersprachler(in), that is.
I had dinner this past New Year's Eve with a German friend who I had a long discussion with about verkaufbar and verkaeuflich, of all things. She thought verkaeuflich was the better way to go. Why?
She really couldn't explain. It just sounded right to her. Jackyo,
"akzentfrei" (as in ´akzentfreies Deutsch´) and "verkäuflich" it is.
Note the Umlaut. Good luck perfecting your deutsch!
Felipe
I pulled this calendar down from the web somewhere.
StraßenKarneval 2008
Weiberfastnacht: Do., 31.1.
Schull-/Veedelszöch: So., 3.2.
Rosenmontag: Mo., 4.2.
Nubbelverbrennung: Di., 5.2.
Aschermittwoch (6.2.) ist alles vorbei.
Been there, done that.
The whole city turns out on Rosenmontag to walk around, see the Carnival parade and get drunk.
The Koelner Bahnhof is normally a zoo but it was even more of a zoo on this day with extra trains bringing folks from the whole of NRW. Not a good idea to drive your car into the city on a day like this.
Thousands of folks stepping off the trains early in the morning were already obviously drunk. Everybody was in a good mood, even the cops and there was really funky music playing constantly in the background.
It was interesting but also tiring, overall a fun thing to experience but would I do it again? No, for the simple reason that the clubs were not at full force during the festivities.
Clubs do tend to have special carnival events before the main event days. During the main event days listed above though the girls tend to want to take time off and some of the clubs are closed.
I went to Babylon on Rosenmontag, knocked on the door and found a workman doing some maintenance who let me know that the club was closed.
Duesseldorf also has a carnival and it is, of course, a competing carnival to what takes place in Koeln. Koeln though, is pretty much ground zero.
Anyone see the movie based on the Heinrich Boell novel Die verlorene Ehre von Katharina Blum? It starts off with carnival in Koeln.
The thing to do at Karneval is to try to hook up with the numerous females running around the city looking for some action. Club action, at least on Rosenmontag itself, is sparse.
Jackyo,
"akzentfrei" (as in ´akzentfreies Deutsch´) and "verkäuflich" it is.
Note the Umlaut. Good luck perfecting your deutsch!
Felipe
... determining what is common usage for a certain term versus going with what is understandable and totally correct but not common usage.
Paid translators, in case anyone wants to know, are only allowed to translate in one direction: in the direction of their mother tongue.
Non native speakers should defer to anyone who speaks German as a mother tongue. It is not my mother tongue, just one I happen to have spent considerable time using.
DJ FourMoney
01-16-08, 13:22
i agree with jackyo that in general germany is quite liberal in it's relations with foreigners, most foreigners i know feel quite comfortable there. there are exceptions to every rule however and curiously enough, race relations seem to have been actually getting worse in the last few years which is largely due to increased criminal behavior among foreign youth in germany. more and more germans are unhappy with the behavior and increasing numbers of foreigners who completely discrespect the german characteristics described in your post.
ee women have more contact with turks than just about any other nationality. there are numerous turks working in all ee countries and ee girls often go to turkey on holiday due to visa-free travel. moreover, there is a lot of prejudice traditionally against turks in russia/ukraine/moldova as seemingly everybody knows somebody who was raped and beaten by turks. whether or not this is true is another question.
nonetheless, if anything the reason ee girls often don't like turks is because they know too much about them already.
having travelled much of ee, especially the russian-speaking areas, turks are the one foreign nationality you are most likely to come across.
blacks and arabs are indeed quite strange for ee girls at first, but i have seen both (and turks) in fkks enjoying themselves, so it is probably just luck of the draw. the major frankfurt clubs get a lot of traffic and there always seems to be a few black guys there.... and not just security... :)
akzentfreies
are you speaking from experience or is this another case of a friend of a friend of a friend told me that once... then again if hangon in the disco means bottom feeding, well...
well doc, i would have tried his theory out while i was in frankfurt, but i was warned by fellow brotha in arms and poster kid rasta not to go to frankfurt and like a dumb-ass i went, as clarkston would say "what could possibly happen???"
well frankfurt is not the "party" city some other locations in germany seem to be. i found a couple of local discos but every time i went it was empty and one time i went stayed about an 90 mins and the only other people to walk in were a group of turks and one turk girl and pair of overweight women, one african and one german, they were together.
when i first got to town, i got the stare down by a german girl that couldn't be much older than about 18. i asked her where the train station was (i lied) and she smiled and said she didn't speak english in german....
when i mentioned this to my friend that lived in town, she said that girl is full of shiet they learn english at a very early age in school and that she more than likely didn't feel comfortable speaking to you in english.
in fact in the 10 or so days i was there, only 1 person i found didn't speak english at all and it was the handy man at the hostel i stayed at.
in any event, i talked with a german girl, the cutiest one i actually talked too; exchange information but never heard from her.
so in my limited sampling i'd say the rumor about american black men in germany is wrong but then again, if i was exposed to more women, i might have "found" something... just like the ukrainian girl that smiled at me in kiev when i was going to 112, i don't feel i am ugly and judging by the general reactions with most women, they don't seem to think so either.
but i did get singled out in fkk palace, and she wanted to fuck me, for a price of course but there were other men in the place... :)
Member #3421
01-21-08, 02:51
Gents,
I'm putting this post here because the majority of it is FKK-related.
After lurking and absorbing, I formulated a plan for an upcoming trip. I've never gone wrong by overpreparing, particularly when I don't speak the language and am travelling solo. I'm sure I'm missing many important things, and would appreciated having those of you with local knowledge weigh in.
I will revise this post with additional details, links, and comments based on your responses, so hopefully this post will be a useful resource for others looking in the same areas. For pricing, (50; 50/25) denotes EU50 entry fee, EU50 first 30 minutes, EU25 subsequent 30 minutes.
PMs are most welcome, and I'd enjoy meeting up with fellow mongers during my trip.
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Arriving: Dusseldorf Airport, 7 AM on a Sunday morning, serious jetlag. Booked a room at the airport Sheraton for convenience, hoping I can check in early or (worst case) just ditch my luggage quickly. I wouldn't normally make such a choice, but I wanted to save my energy for other activities!
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=144
US$175 including taxes and fees (Expedia).
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Sunday *****
The most likely in-town possibilites seem to be Dolce Vita and Blue Note. However, Living Room isn't that far away and is accessible via public transport. Maybe even easier than the others. I'm an FKK Newbie. Advice is welcome.
http://www.fkk-livingroom.de/ (50; 50/25). Looks like it's easy via the train:
- http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=592550&postcount=47
http://www.saunabluenote.de/ (55; 30/30). Take S-bahn to Rath-Mitte + 5 min walk.
http://www.fkk-dolcevita.com/index_engl.html. It appears to be at a new location
and local directions would be appreciated. Reisholz, seemingly close
to one of the train routes on the southern part of the city.
- Web says before 7:30 PM: (0; 80/40). After 7:30 PM: (40; 50/50).
- Possible special before 7:00 PM: EU120 for 3 shots (I wonder if this
is 30 minutes each shot)?
Other things that caught my eye (but may not be current):
http://www.teamengel.de/
http://www.ddorfprivat.de/
http://www.6relax.de/ (lots of phone numbers, might take some work,
hard to judge quality ahead of time. Prices?)
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Early/Midweek *****
Travel to Dortmund Monday. However, I could spend the day in Dusseldorf, heading to Dortmund later, or head for Dortmund and explore the possibilities there. Either way, Dortmund is the base for daytime business and possibly one nighttime of fun on Tuesday/Wednesday. I got a good rate at the Steigenberger Hotel Dortmund.
http://www.dortmund.steigenberger.de/
US$87 including taxes and fees (Expedia).
Information on the list is more difficult to assess than for Dusseldorf. If I'm missing something obvious, let me know. Yes, I'm excluding the PartyTreff clubs.
Bel Ami appears to be a Red Carpet club in Dortmund, information on the site http://www.fkk-vitalis.de/. In West Dortmund, apparently close to one of the train lines, but I couldn't find any information on directions, prices, or reviews as it may be newly re-opened? Old pricing may have been (35; 25/25).
Neby (I'm not sure if it qualifies as an FKK?) is also to the west, not far from Bel Ami I believe. Info is sparse.
http://www.privatclub-neby.de/
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=686796#post686796
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=686197&postcount=1669
Club 111? No web site I could find, no luck searching for info beyond the FKK FAQ.
Happy-FKK. (30, ?/?). South east of the city. Unless someone has information newer than I found on the web, it's probably not worth trying. http://www.happy-fkk.de/
Finally, http://www.daslaufhaus.de/. It would be nice to know the pricing structure, but I gather that you choose a girl out front, then go inside and hire a room. I wonder if this is essentially the streetwalker scene? I found some posts from 2006 about Laufhaus in Frankfurt, and imagine it's the same idea.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=495456&postcount=9
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Thursday *****
Thursday: planned on getting a rental car, to leave town early afternoon. Head for Hennef, hopefully to get a hotel room and hit Bernds. It's extremely well-reviewed, so I won't do that here. However, someone commented that Bernds wasn't a great choice for FKK newbies. Anyone want to comment? Hotel recommendations appreciated (I recall seeing one recommendation in the list and will certainly re-check it).
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Friday *****
Bernds. Why rock the boat when I expect to have a great time?
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Saturday *****
Return car in Dusseldorf. Find a place to stay (actually, I'll probably book a place ahead of time). As for activities, I have the same range of choices that I listed earlier for Sunday. If guys have comments about particular choice for a Saturday afternoon/evening (I expect everything will be busy), it would be interesting.
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Random questions: what is the escort scene? And do FKK girls ever set up something outside the club? The latter part of this is economics. How many guys would the typical FKK girl do in a night? 6? This is, say EU300. I'd happily pay EU300 for an evening/night alone with a girl if we had chemistry.
Based on a quick glance at the main Germany page with mention of escorts, my arithmatic is way off. I'm missing something, or else I can't figure out why the FKK pricing is so relatively cheap?
Respectfully,
OBG
All For Bb
01-21-08, 23:15
Went to living room last Thursday. had a session with a beautiful greece/russion mixed blood girl. when we changed position, found no condon on my tool but in her vagina. basicly i fuck her bareback for about 10 minutes.
Comment one: fuck bareback is not different from fucking with condom, since i did not feel it, otherwise, i would stop immadiately. To me, fuck with condom is as happy as without. Not feel difference.
Commet (or question) 2: this beauty swore using her son's name that she was clean and did no have std or hiv. she said she had an one year old boy and she was tasted often to work in fkk club for herself sake. Could i trust her? This is second time condom slip off in my life in paid sex. last time was a few years ago. It turned out ok (no std and hiv).
Please comment. thanks.
Went to living room last Thursday. had a session with a beautiful greece/russion mixed blood girl. when we changed position, found no condon on my tool but in her vagina. basicly i fuck her bareback for about 10 minutes.
Comment one: fuck bareback is not different from fucking with condom, since i did not feel it, otherwise, i would stop immadiately. To me, fuck with condom is as happy as without. Not feel difference.
Commet (or question) 2: this beauty swore using her son's name that she was clean and did no have std or hiv. she said she had an one year old boy and she was tasted often to work in fkk club for herself sake. Could i trust her? This is second time condom slip off in my life in paid sex. last time was a few years ago. It turned out ok (no std and hiv).
Please comment. thanks.I reckon you are ok, Living room is a very well run club and I believe the women are tested regularly there. Also its not like she offered you bareback, the condom slipped off so its a rare accident. 99% sure u wont have a problem. Get Tested to be sure.
If it all worries you too much, stay away from sex workers in future.
To me, fuck with condom is as happy as without. Not feel difference.If you cannot feel the difference I'm not sure if I envy you or pity you.....
Could i trust her?What choice do you have? This has happend to me too, so I know the feeling. It's quite possible, though not likely, that she has STD but isn't aware. Better make up an excuse to use condom with the girlfriend/wife for a couple of months:)
If the club is doing its job then each girl is asked to bring once a month a clean bill of health from a doctor. This is I believe a legal requirement. STDs are as much a danger for them (physically and commercially, nothing gets around quicker on the German boards than a dose of clap) as they are for you, in fact the girl is the most at risk. The top end clubs I would trust but the bottom feeder partytreffs are where you run the most risk. If you are worried then go to Sweden where you will not get a nasty little germ, indeed you won't get anything for your money. And as I read soon Britain will be a 'fun free zone' so stay at home is another option.
If the club is doing its job then each girl is asked to bring once a month a clean bill of health from a doctor. This is I believe a legal requirement.No, the "Bockschein" (obligatory bill of health) is not obligatory in Germany anymore since a few years now.
There are clubs like Bernds i.e. where the girls have to bring a clean bill regularly if they want to continue working in that club, but there are also clubs where the girls do not need to bring it at all.
All For Bb
01-23-08, 02:03
If you cannot feel the difference I'm not sure if I envy you or pity you.....What choice do you have? This has happend to me too, so I know the feeling. It's quite possible, though not likely, that she has STD but isn't aware. Better make up an excuse to use condom with the girlfriend/wife for a couple of months:)
i do not have sex with my wife anymore because she could not turn me on anymore unfortunately (or fortunately). my only sex life now is paid sex--eat (lick) and fk over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).
why couple of months? std usually show-up in 2-3 weeks unless you talking about hiv.
I have come to the conclusion I might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip.
I lived for over 20 years in the Los Angles, Ca area so I am use to heavy traffic and congestion. I have also driven all over the USA, including many big cities like Chicago, Atlanta, etc. What concerns me about driving in Europe is off course all the road signs are in a language I don't understand. Did any of you Americans find it difficult driving in Europe the first time? Getting lost easily?
Here is a plan I have been thinking about, getting a hotel room in Dusseldorf because the hotel rates there are the cheapest of any city I have looked including Roermond and Venlo. Then renting a car there and driving to GT for a day and then to YinYang for another day. Using Dusseldorf as my base. Also of course visiting LR. Or I could stay in Roermond and drive to GT and YY, but I could only find 1 hotel in Roermond with rooms when I plan to be in that area.
Any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.
over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).That's a lot. You're a champ indeed :-) But only 34 reports....... :-( Guess you're simply too busy.
I was referring more to the demand by responsible clubs that the girls themselves show they have been for a check up on a regular basis not the legal requirement which I wasn't sure still applied. Strange that the Germans so fanatical about health have dropped this, especially with the proliferation of clubs recently.
[QUOTE=All For Bb]i do not have sex with my wife anymore because she could not turn me on anymore unfortunately (or fortunately). my only sex life now is paid sex--eat (lick) and fk over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).
That's 7,500 Euro a year excluding entrance fees. Over ten years it comes to ......a lot of money. Wouldn't a new wife be cheaper? Give the old one a 75,000 Euro pay off and get one (younger better) free, join a swinger group and lie down in a bed of pussies for less than the price of pizza meal for all eternity.
Ekliges Lauern
01-25-08, 13:11
I have come to the conclusion I might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip. ... What concerns me about driving in Europe is off course all the road signs are in a language I don't understand. Did any of you Americans find it difficult driving in Europe the first time?
Road direction signs in Germany list the next few cities in the direction the road runs. It can get pretty confusing if you don't know the area or have a good sense of geography. There are a couple very simple solutions. Either get a car with a GPS or stop at a gas station and get a map.
[QUOTE=All For Bb]i do not have sex with my wife anymore because she could not turn me on anymore unfortunately (or fortunately). my only sex life now is paid sex--eat (lick) and fk over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).
That's 7,500 Euro a year excluding entrance fees. Over ten years it comes to ......a lot of money. Wouldn't a new wife be cheaper? Give the old one a 75,000 Euro pay off and get one (younger better) free, join a swinger group and lie down in a bed of pussies for less than the price of pizza meal for all eternity.
Nope, that's not a lot of money. Think of your house, possibly a vacation home, your cars, retirement package, stocks, other assets. If you split, you give up half of what you own, on average. If I had to pay my wife off, it would cost me more than 100 years of pussy at the rate you quote. P4P is way cheaper. ... and the variety is better, too ...
Road direction signs in Germany list the next few cities in the direction the road runs. It can get pretty confusing if you don't know the area or have a good sense of geography. There are a couple very simple solutions. Either get a car with a GPS or stop at a gas station and get a map.
... or go to a store and buy a portable GPS. They start at a little over 100 euro now, plug into your cigarette lighter, and attach to the windshield with a suction cup. Then you never have to worry how to find your favorite club any more.
GPS option in a rental car is typically around 10 bucks per day, so buying your own cheap portable one quickly pays for itself.
While a map works in principle, it is really not practical. Trying to read a map while driving, possibly even with jet lag in your bones, can end up deadly.
... or go to a store and buy a portable GPS.This is indeed sensible advice. Some of these clubs are difficult to find in the extreme. Even the navigator stumbles sometimes (mine obviously doesn't going fucking in Oase, World or Samya, but it at least gets me within pussy-sniffing distance). Mind you, I suppose I know the way blindfold by now. :-) But I guess it's better to buy it in Europe (the navi as well as the pussy).
Warsteiner
01-25-08, 20:49
i have come to the conclusion i might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip.
any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.
try www.sixti.de for cheap car rental - they have a place in dus. i've used them a couple of times when i've been staying in cologne. i rented the 'ford focus' type and they gave me a mini cooper s. the car was like a go-kart on steroids on the autobahn :) they don't do gps rental as the 'bigger' companies such as avis, hertz, etc. do but depending where you go you might be ok without gps.
each of the clubs has a 'how to get to us' section on their website and you can also check www.viamichelin.com for driving directions. gt is pretty easy to find from the autobahn but i wouldn't fancy trying to get to phg without gps. also if you are heading out from duesseldorf past the airport watch out for speed cameras. there are several of them around the airport area (which is on the autobahn with about a 100kmh speed limit) and some of them are forward facing i.e. they will check your speed as you approach them. you won't get any points on your licence but the rental company will be chasing you for speeding fines or just take them off your credit card.
if you have a gps in the us depending on the make/model you can get european maps for it. if the gps uses sd cards to store the maps then it's easy to but european maps and you just swap the sd cards. you may even find copies of the european maps somewhere on the internet and just need to buy a new sd card to load them on to.
I often read about bareback, girls doing test for clubs, etc...
I would like to bring my input because I don't like to live in a wrong representation of world and particularly when I put myself in danger innocently. I discovered FKKs a little bit more than one year ago. I became very very quickly addicted and started endless club tours, willing to experience more and more. I visited the clubs on average 2 or 3 times a week during one year until I had to slow down due to overburn.
Quickly the challenge became to meet some girls outside the clubs which I achieved without too much difficulty. Of course you become closer and then friends, and sometimes you go for a short relationship (which is quite strange experience and turns down the illusion of FKK). But this never stopped me to go there.
Now what I have to say is the following:
none of the girls I met or know from clubs told me being obliged to make a test in order to work in a club.
They do this test on their own free will but can we assume that they all do? And what if the test is positive?
Also it happened to me several times that the condom was broken during a session, sometimes I noticed it too late... Of course we exchanged details in order to confirm a further test.
On the clinical side I got 3 times chlamydia (once with a new girlfriend) and one prostata infection (this last was not related to sex contact). But do not get me wrong, I do not say it is due to clubs.
Some of the girls working in RLD mention that they must provide a test but I do not know about this area.
After all I suppose it is more comfortable to think that they do but my experience is different. And anyway, we never know...
I keep thinking that I take less risks by having sex (covered) with girls in clubs than with girls I would pull out from discotek but this is only my opinion.
I do not want to bring up here an endless discussion but just to share my thoughts through an open forum where I can express my concerns and experience.
Def
Member #3421
01-26-08, 02:44
Ok, since we're having fun debating GPS versus a good map from a gas station versus Google maps:
Google Earth identified Bernd's as marked by the blue "A" in the attached image. Having never been, but based on the pictures I've seen of the orientation of the house, I'd guess that the house marked by the white ? is Bernds. Can someone confirm? Pretty good resolution, actually! If someone were getting some action in the back yard I think we could see it. But it's a cold-weather image.
OBG
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Here is a plan I have been thinking about, getting a hotel room in Dusseldorf because the hotel rates there are the cheapest of any city I have looked including Roermond and Venlo. Then renting a car there and driving to GT for a day and then to YinYang for another day. Using Dusseldorf as my base. Also of course visiting LR. Or I could stay in Roermond and drive to GT and YY, but I could only find 1 hotel in Roermond with rooms when I plan to be in that area.
Any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.
Etap Hotel, West Willich, 35 euro per night, within 30 minutes of all the clubs you mention. Why deal with Dusseldorf traffic?
Ok, since we're having fun debating GPS versus a good map from a gas station versus Google maps:
Google Earth identified Bernd's as marked by the blue "A" in the attached image. Having never been, but based on the pictures I've seen of the orientation of the house, I'd guess that the house marked by the white ? is Bernds. Can someone confirm? Pretty good resolution, actually! If someone were getting some action in the back yard I think we could see it. But it's a cold-weather image.
OBGThe? Is indeed over the Hof.
I've had nothing but good results with my 3 year old garmin portable. The location of the Oase has had the largest error. It put me on the correct road but many 100s of yards from the turn into the parking area.
Ok, since we're having fun debating GPS versus a good map from a gas station versus Google maps:
Google Earth identified Bernd's as marked by the blue "A" in the attached image. Having never been, but based on the pictures I've seen of the orientation of the house, I'd guess that the house marked by the white ? is Bernds. Can someone confirm? Pretty good resolution, actually! If someone were getting some action in the back yard I think we could see it. But it's a cold-weather image.
OBG
..is actually the entrance to Bernd's parking lot. They ask that you do not park on the street but rather in this lot.
The white question mark is indeed smack on the Hof. It's a good thing that Google Earth can't see through roofs....
I have come to the conclusion I might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip.
I lived for over 20 years in the Los Angles, Ca area so I am use to heavy traffic and congestion. I have also driven all over the USA, including many big cities like Chicago, Atlanta, etc. What concerns me about driving in Europe is off course all the road signs are in a language I don't understand. Did any of you Americans find it difficult driving in Europe the first time? Getting lost easily?
Here is a plan I have been thinking about, getting a hotel room in Dusseldorf because the hotel rates there are the cheapest of any city I have looked including Roermond and Venlo. Then renting a car there and driving to GT for a day and then to YinYang for another day. Using Dusseldorf as my base. Also of course visiting LR. Or I could stay in Roermond and drive to GT and YY, but I could only find 1 hotel in Roermond with rooms when I plan to be in that area.
Any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.
And yes, you are much better off driving than wasting precious pussy time making train connections. I've been driving in Europe for years, and Germany in particular has great signage (in fact there was a debate a while back that they have too much signage on their roads) with ample notification when you are approaching exits and turnoffs. Most European roads have international standard signs.
The only times I've gotten lost have been when I've had GPS in the car. My company pays for it in the rental car so I take one, but always prepare by plotting out my trip using via michelin or map 24, printing out their suggested directions, and also having a map. The few times that I wasn't abe to prepare and had to rely only on the GPS to find a mongering destination, I got lost.
If you're set on GT and YY, it makes more sense to stay in Venlo/Roermond rather than DUS, and drive over to LR from there. IMHO, if this is your first FKK trip, it would be better to base yourself at the Cologne/Dusseldorf area clubs like Samya, Blue Note, LR and take a jaunt out to GT.
Gentleman Travel
01-28-08, 19:49
I'm planning a business trip to Switzerland, but want to take a detour to an FKK in Germany along the way (ever tried to get laid in Switzerland?).
From my country, all flights to Geneva go through either Frankfurt or Munich.
Which airport would be most convenient for a brief "lay-over" visit to an FKK club.
In other words, which airport would work best for catching a cab from the airport, getting in a few hours of nookie, then getting back to catch a flight later that day.
And which FKK clubs are closest to each airport?
Thanks for any advice...
GT
Warsteiner
01-28-08, 21:02
I'm planning a business trip to Switzerland, but want to take a detour to an FKK in Germany along the way (ever tried to get laid in Switzerland?).
From my country, all flights to Geneva go through either Frankfurt or Munich.
Which airport would be most convenient for a brief "lay-over" visit to an FKK club.
In other words, which airport would work best for catching a cab from the airport, getting in a few hours of nookie, then getting back to catch a flight later that day.
And which FKK clubs are closest to each airport?
Thanks for any advice...
GT
Got to be Frankfurt. You can probably get a cab to Palace in about 25 minutes or less.
And yes, you are much better off driving than wasting precious pussy time making train connections. I've been driving in Europe for years, and Germany in particular has great signage (in fact there was a debate a while back that they have too much signage on their roads) with ample notification when you are approaching exits and turnoffs. Most European roads have international standard signs
There is one major codicil I'd add to your praise of the German highway system. When approaching a major junction, the signs will tell you which major cities are accessible from each ramp; what they don't tell you is which direction the ramp will send you. If, for example, you're heading north, but don't know that the road to Dusseldorf is North, you can be at a loss for which way to head.
There is one major codicil I'd add to your praise of the German highway system. When approaching a major junction, the signs will tell you which major cities are accessible from each ramp; what they don't tell you is which direction the ramp will send you. If, for example, you're heading north, but don't know that the road to Dusseldorf is North, you can be at a loss for which way to head.
SOOOO TRUE! Must remember: Basel is way to the South!
I'm planning a business trip to Switzerland, but want to take a detour to an FKK in Germany along the way (ever tried to get laid in Switzerland?).
From my country, all flights to Geneva go through either Frankfurt or Munich.
Which airport would be most convenient for a brief "lay-over" visit to an FKK club.
In other words, which airport would work best for catching a cab from the airport, getting in a few hours of nookie, then getting back to catch a flight later that day.
And which FKK clubs are closest to each airport?
Thanks for any advice...
GT
DEFINITELY Frankfurt! Cab to the Palace. Half hour later you are there. München is an FKK wasteland; nearest good FKK is in Augsburg.
There is one major codicil I'd add to your praise of the German highway system. When approaching a major junction, the signs will tell you which major cities are accessible from each ramp; what they don't tell you is which direction the ramp will send you. If, for example, you're heading north, but don't know that the road to Dusseldorf is North, you can be at a loss for which way to head.
...and get your bearings before you hit the road and you shouldn't have that problem.
On / off ramps are far apart, unlike the US, so it is better to err early or you will have far to go to turn around. One time I missed the Hennef exit and it took me an hour to turn around, got caught in traffic when there was a truck fire. You must know several of the towns that the exit services, so study the map. Don't count on seeing a north or south, east or west signs.
I find Google Maps very useful for finding a given location. The zoom and shift
features let you print a " route map " in what ever size you want from the nearest autobahn exit to your destination and you can prepare a route card to maximise fun time.
Hessen Bub
01-30-08, 14:09
what they don't tell you is which direction the ramp will send you.
It's quite easy: Odd number go from North to South or vice versa, Even numbers go from East to West or vice versa.
HB
Gentleman Travel
01-30-08, 15:53
Got to be Frankfurt. You can probably get a cab to Palace in about 25 minutes or less.
Thanks very much Euro & Warsteiner!
Just the info I needed.
GT
It's quite easy: Odd number go from North to South or vice versa, Even numbers go from East to West or vice versa.
True, but this is of no help, if you know that you need to go in a certain direction, say North, and all that you get offered is the name of cities on the signs, say one direction leads to Kassel, and the other to Hannover. Then what?
Even though I pride myself on knowing the German Autobahn system and generally know my German geography, I have gotten lost in the autobahn thicket around Köln for exactly that reason. If you need to make a split-second decision between Duisburg and Gummersbach, then you are out of luck 50% of the time ... (Some may argue 100%, but I won't go there ;))
JulyGent13
01-31-08, 15:57
Hey group;
What is the latest suggestion for a best place to go for one night away from Stuttgart area on Saturday Feb 9th? Flatrate 'fun' vs other options?
I appreciate the ideas.
Warsteiner
01-31-08, 20:49
Hey group;
What is the latest suggestion for a best place to go for one night away from Stuttgart area on Saturday Feb 9th? Flatrate 'fun' vs other options?
I appreciate the ideas.
If you're looking to stay in the Stuttgart area then there is always FKK Haus. I've never been there myself but there are some reports on the board. If you want to go 'out of town' then Frankfurt is only 80 minutes by train so you could go to Palace or Oase.
I feel lost and need help! I'm flying in to Dusseldorf next week (Tuesday afternoon) and was thinking of driving to (and spending 5-6h) either at the Atrium or Arena both in the vicinity. I had an excellent stay at the Atrium back in May (three 22 yo beauties, owo, cim, 139 EUR in total). But now with all these nice reports on PHG, VV, and GT I feel confused. I have a meeting in Cologne the next day at 9am.
* Which one of these clubs (PHG, VV, and GT) has the best young-teeny line-up?
* Is it fixed pricing or do I have to negotiate, each time, OWO etc or is it 50E per 30 minutes? 25E to extend to 1h?
I guess any of these places will top the CL girls I Delaware.
Hey group;
What is the latest suggestion for a best place to go for one night away from Stuttgart area on Saturday Feb 9th? Flatrate 'fun' vs other options?
I appreciate the ideas.
If you must stay around Stuttgart, FKK Haus is likely a good bet.
If you are not restricted to Stuttgart, I'd preferentially go to Palace or Oase in/near Frankfurt.
Haus always gave me that "Cheers" feeling of being welcoming and intimate. And a girl that provided good service, that you click with, was always a fine experience there. They have cheap and good beer, and the owner (Ilona?) was always a great host that treated me well.
Palace - no beer, management more reserved, but always far more girls that on average were much prettier.
Sadly, never made it to Oase.
Decide on a place - you can sort of tour before committing, so if they are short girls you can bow out. Easier at Haus, since it is small. They don't like it, but you can pull it off. Set a budget, and spend 6-12 hours having the time of your life.
Hessen Bub
02-01-08, 11:06
What is the latest suggestion for a best place to go for one night away from Stuttgart area on Saturday Feb 9th? Flatrate 'fun' vs other options?
www.fkk-sakura.de
And there's www.the-paradise.de opening on Feb 8.
HB
Warsteiner
02-02-08, 19:55
* Which one of these clubs (PHG, VV, and GT) has the best young-teeny line-up?
* Is it fixed pricing or do I have to negotiate, each time, OWO etc or is it 50E per 30 minutes? 25E to extend to 1h?
I can't speak for VV but PHG and GT both have good line-ups. Neither are going to be very busy on Tuesday and you may find that the best talent will not be there as they will save themselves for the weekend however saying that you should find more than enough to talent any day at wither of these clubs.
The price is fixed at €50 for 30 mins and €75 for the hour however it's always best to confirm this with the girl. The same goes for any extras normally these are €25 or €50 for anal but it's best to ask if you want something particular.
What days does World, Oase and Palace have their girls wearing lingerie?
What days does World, Oase and Palace have their girls wearing lingerie?The quick answer is Tuesday, Thursday and Wednesday. Someone better informed out there?
World Tuesday
Palace Wednesday
Oase Thursday
I finally decided on where I am going for my 8 day trip to Holland and Germany. I need to ask your help on one more item. Planning on flying into Amsterdam, then the next day take a train to Cologne. Them to Dusseldorf, then Roermond and finally back to Amsterdam.
Would I save any money by buying the train tickets in advance or should I just wait till I get to Amsterdam?
Thanks for the help with all my questions and of course I will do my part and write a report on my trip.
i guess the distances are relatively small for plane journeys, not to forget advance check in and going back to city,whereas trains pick you from downtown and drop you at downtown, the speeds of german trains is terrific, i would have gone by train, though each to his own.
cheers!
i finally decided on where i am going for my 8 day trip to holland and germany. i need to ask your help on one more item. planning on flying into amsterdam, then the next day take a train to cologne. them to dusseldorf, then roermond and finally back to amsterdam.
would i save any money by buying the train tickets in advance or should i just wait till i get to amsterdam?
thanks for the help with all my questions and of course i will do my part and write a report on my trip.
I finally decided on where I am going for my 8 day trip to Holland and Germany. I need to ask your help on one more item. Planning on flying into Amsterdam, then the next day take a train to Cologne. Them to Dusseldorf, then Roermond and finally back to Amsterdam.
Would I save any money by buying the train tickets in advance or should I just wait till I get to Amsterdam?
Thanks for the help with all my questions and of course I will do my part and write a report on my trip.Also in english : www.bahn.de and the dutch website www.ns.nl
Warsteiner
02-05-08, 20:27
I finally decided on where I am going for my 8 day trip to Holland and Germany. I need to ask your help on one more item. Planning on flying into Amsterdam, then the next day take a train to Cologne. Them to Dusseldorf, then Roermond and finally back to Amsterdam.
Would I save any money by buying the train tickets in advance or should I just wait till I get to Amsterdam?
Thanks for the help with all my questions and of course I will do my part and write a report on my trip.
Defiantely get the ticket from Amsterdam - Cologne in advance. The German Rail (www.bahn.de) are doing a special on single tickets. International journeys are from €39 and internal journeys are from €29. It's also worth checking out the other journeys in case they are cheaper as well although DUS to Col is only a 30 minute journey so you probably won't get this any cheaper.
Allright, didn't know where to post this so I thought general info was the right place.
I feel this topic is of "Wankingish" style. Anyways, have any of you guys after a good day of fucking, rubbed under your nut sack and had a "hint or whiff" of a good pussy juice scent? Good stuff isn't it?
How about after you inserted your finger in a woman's asshole. Yes, you might have washed it in the sink at the establishment before you left. But how many of you have driven for hours down the highway after fucking, all the while smelling your finger that was in her asshole and getting a whiff of Anus scent. You can extend your Euros you spent out a few hours or maybe even days longer. LOL
Cheers!
And you can stretch the pleasure out indefinitely as you attempt to explain the smells to your wife/partner/girlfriend..... :-)
And you can stretch the pleasure out indefinitely as you attempt to explain the smells to your wife/partner/girlfriend..... :-)
but I shower and scrub my hands, face, genitals and any other body part that comes into contact with someone else's fluids after every session. Yes, I miss out on carrying some souvenirs back with me, but I think it's a key to staying healthy and clean. Now, I know some smart guy is going to write here that once I've stuck my tongue into her holes, it's too late anyway. But, we all make conscious, and sometimes not so concious decisions when we decide to engage in this hobby.
Gawd Damn the ole forum is a little quiet since Jackyo departed. Now I know he waffled a bit at times, but he also contributed some great info, in particular valuable stuff from the German forums.
Come back Jackyo we miss you (I do anyway)
And you can stretch the pleasure out indefinitely as you attempt to explain the smells to your wife/partner/girlfriend..... :-)
reminds me of this song
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8VhPHtKinmA
But how many of you have driven for hours down the highway after fucking, all the while smelling your finger that was in her asshole and getting a whiff of Anus scent.Anus Scent! Fuck me man the only anus scent I ever smelt was the girls shit! :D
When I stick my finger up a girls asshole I always suck it clean afterwards, so therefore there is no lingering smell of "anus scent" :D
CBGBConnisur
02-13-08, 16:31
Allright, didn't know where to post this so I thought general info was the right place.
I feel this topic is of "Wankingish" style. Anyways, have any of you guys after a good day of fucking, rubbed under your nut sack and had a "hint or whiff" of a good pussy juice scent? Good stuff isn't it?
How about after you inserted your finger in a woman's asshole. Yes, you might have washed it in the sink at the establishment before you left. But how many of you have driven for hours down the highway after fucking, all the while smelling your finger that was in her asshole and getting a whiff of Anus scent. You can extend your Euros you spent out a few hours or maybe even days longer. LOL
Cheers!
European women usually have a yogurt or cheeselike odor coming from their privates, I think it reflects their diet. Asian women have a more soy sauce like smell, again reflecting what they eat.
A female friend of mine tells me sperm tastes different depending on what the man may have eaten or drunk in the previous hours.
I don't know whether beer drinkers' spunk is foamy or frothy, but "it so seems that it has a yeasty taste", she says... Wouldn't go and taste for myself, guys, to give you a "first-hand" experience...
Just my small contribution to a hot topic...
Frenchie
Anus Scent! Fuck me man the only anus scent I ever smelt was the girls shit! :D
When I stick my finger up a girls asshole I always suck it clean afterwards, so therefore there is no lingering smell of "anus scent" :D
Good stuff Wan King! :)
A female friend of mine tells me sperm tastes different depending on what the man may have eaten or drunk in the previous hours.
I don't know whether beer drinkers' spunk is foamy or frothy, but "it so seems that it has a yeasty taste", she says... Wouldn't go and taste for myself, guys, to give you a "first-hand" experience...
Just my small contribution to a hot topic...
Frenchie
lots of red meat makes it taste stronger, and apparently pineapple juice gives it the mildest sweetest taste.
Babsi, a long time regular at Bernd's, doubles as the resident sperm sommelier and usually gives forth on the taste and quality of your sperm following CIM.
Worth checking in if only for that.
Busterbrown 73
02-14-08, 16:34
I'm just curious, as I'm relatively new to the FKK arena and haven't paid for CIM with any provider. Do SP's ever swallow the jizz or do they just spit it back at you? I've only had personal GF's swallow my man cream. And what a feeling it is! I'm coming back to Germany in two weeks and what to know if it's really worth the upsell! Buster.
All For Bb
02-15-08, 02:03
anus scent! fuck me man the only anus scent i ever smelt was the girls shit! :d
when i stick my finger up a girls asshole i always suck it clean afterwards, so therefore there is no lingering smell of "anus scent" :d
dear wan king or other friends,
just curious that if you ever taste or drink pretty girls [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) or taste or eat pretty girls shit? i did [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), taste like tea, but never drink. some time if girl is pretty, man can try everything from her lovely hole. so horny.
all4bb=all for pussy
Member #3421
02-15-08, 04:19
dear wan king or other friends,
just curious that if you ever taste or drink pretty girls [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) or taste or eat pretty girls shit? i did [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), taste like tea, but never drink. some time if girl is pretty, man can try everything from her lovely hole. so horny.
all4bb=all for pussy
well, since you asked: no, never did. and had no desire to, no matter how fucking hot the girl was or how horny i was, or how shitfaced drunk i was. but each to his/her own.
damn, i need a drink now. and maybe someday i'll buy you one -- i bet it would be a conversation i would never forget.
be safe, "all for bb".
obg
Vito Corleone
02-16-08, 01:17
I'm just curious, as I'm relatively new to the FKK arena and haven't paid for CIM with any provider. Do SP's ever swallow the jizz or do they just spit it back at you? I've only had personal GF's swallow my man cream. And what a feeling it is! I'm coming back to Germany in two weeks and what to know if it's really worth the upsell! Buster.Buster,
Most girls will keep sucking until you are dry, then spit your jizz into a paper towel or tissue. I have not experienced CIMWS @ an FKK. I think it is worth it since the feeling is quite sensational.
Hessen Bub
02-16-08, 20:09
I have not experienced CIMWS @ an FKK.
I have, but it does not happen that often, I've never asked for it and it never happened when having the first session with the girl.
HB
Warsteiner
02-17-08, 19:43
Buster,
Most girls will keep sucking until you are dry, then spit your jizz into a paper towel or tissue. I have not experienced CIMWS @ an FKK. I think it is worth it since the feeling is quite sensational.
Yeah, normally you have to build up a relationship with the girl but it is definately worth it. The only time I have ever had CIMWS with a girl on the first session was in Blue Note. I can't remember the name of the girl but she was tall, very slim and had short blond hair. I think she may still be working there. If you plan to visit Samya you'll find that there are 3 girls who advertise CIMWS - Jale, Josi and Kirsten. I've had sessions with Josi and Kirsten and can highly recommend them both.
I wonder if the clubs (FKKs and Partytreffs) are generally open with the normal timing during easter holiday as well, or do they utilise a special opening and closing hours?
What was the case in previous years?
This years, I guess the Easter weekend vacation would be between 22 and 23 March. If someone has any opinion on that, it would be helpful and I would appreciated.
I wonder if the clubs (FKKs and Partytreffs) are generally open with the normal timing during easter holiday as well, or do they utilise a special opening and closing hours?
What was the case in previous years?
This years, I guess the Easter weekend vacation would be between 22 and 23 March. If someone has any opinion on that, it would be helpful and I would appreciated.I'm pretty sure Christmas is the only time that affects opening hours.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-22-08, 04:56
Just returned from a trip to Germany with a friend. We were stopped outside of PHG and Golden Time by the police after midnight and my friend was required to take a breathalyzer test (he was driving both times). Fortunately, he doesn't drink, so there was no problem. However, had he partaken of the free beer at those clubs, as I did, we would have been in big trouble. My friend asked if he had done anything wrong and if that was why we were stopped. The police said no, he hadn't; we were stopped because we came out of the club. I suggest that you go easy on the alcohol at the clubs in the NWR unless someone is the designated driver. Getting a DUI in Germany could really mess up your trip.
In addition, make sure you have your driver's license. My friend forgot his the night we were stopped outside of PHG and the only way the cops let us go was for the clerk at the hotel we were staying at to go to his room, get the license, and fax a copy of it to the police. My friend paid a 10 Euro fine and got a warning to not forget his license again.
Buster,
Most girls will keep sucking until you are dry, then spit your jizz into a paper towel or tissue. I have not experienced CIMWS @ an FKK. I think it is worth it since the feeling is quite sensational.
I have, with several girls at Palace and at FKK-Haus. With some girls, there were 2 extras - 1 for CIM, 1 for swallow. With others, swallowing was part of the deal for CIM.
Russian Angelika (Diablo) at Palace, Big-titted Czech Linda at Palace, and Jackie at Haus were always reliable swallowers, included in the CIM extra.
Freddie Macman
02-23-08, 22:33
Clubs:
Where can I find a club, like a strip club in Los Angeles, that you can get BJ with CIM. Im not interested in a sauna club where I walk around with a robe on.
Can anyone help?
I'm in Dusseldorf until Tuesday.
Thanks
Love Palace
02-24-08, 03:10
lots of red meat makes it taste stronger, and apparently pineapple juice gives it the mildest sweetest taste.And eating to much fish gives it a not nice taste. (or for some only a distinct taste)
Clubs:
Where can I find a club, like a strip club in Los Angeles, that you can get BJ with CIM. Im not interested in a sauna club where I walk around with a robe on.
Can anyone help?
I'm in Dusseldorf until Tuesday.
Thanks
My man; you are posting in the wrong forum. German FKKs are all about "walking around with a robe on" (mostly a towel, actually). US-style strip clubs where you can get a BJ are often real rip-offs in Germany. But if you really want it, Wan King posted a list of clubs in the Duesseldorf area here (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=674437&postcount=172).
lots of red meat makes it taste stronger, and apparently pineapple juice gives it the mildest sweetest taste.
Yep, that's what I hear, too. Mind you, I have never tasted the stuff, but I hear :). Debbie from 'Hof is my sperm taste tester, and she tells me that smoking, in particular cigars, makes your man juice taste bitter. Debbie also swears that pineapple juice is good for the man juice flavor.
My question is: how long does it take for the pineapple juice to get down to my dispenser and effect the taste. And also, does it make a difference if I add some vodka? Is there a doctor in the house? Better yet, why don't I do an experiment and find out. I'll see Debbie next Monday and let you know. Oh the sacrifices I am willing to make; all in the name of science :D
Love Palace
02-24-08, 13:38
Yep, that's what I hear, too. Mind you, I have never tasted the stuff, but I hear :). Debbie from 'Hof is my sperm taste tester, and she tells me that smoking, in particular cigars, makes your man juice taste bitter. Debbie also swears that pineapple juice is good for the man juice flavor.
My question is: how long does it take for the pineapple juice to get down to my dispenser and effect the taste. And also, does it make a difference if I add some vodka? Is there a doctor in the house? Better yet, why don't I do an experiment and find out. I'll see Debbie next Monday and let you know. Oh the sacrifices I am willing to make; all in the name of science :DIf you often get comments about sweet taste: check yourself for diabetes!
In old Greek doctors tasted patients urin to taste if it was sweet!
Just returned from a trip to Germany with a friend. We were stopped outside of PHG and Golden Time by the police after midnight and my friend was required to take a breathalyzer test (he was driving both times). Fortunately, he doesn't drink, so there was no problem. However, had he partaken of the free beer at those clubs, as I did, we would have been in big trouble. My friend asked if he had done anything wrong and if that was why we were stopped. The police said no, he hadn't; we were stopped because we came out of the club. I suggest that you go easy on the alcohol at the clubs in the NWR unless someone is the designated driver. Getting a DUI in Germany could really mess up your trip.
In addition, make sure you have your driver's license. My friend forgot his the night we were stopped outside of PHG and the only way the cops let us go was for the clerk at the hotel we were staying at to go to his room, get the license, and fax a copy of it to the police. My friend paid a 10 Euro fine and got a warning to not forget his license again.
I am retty sure they patrol that stretch of th 221 a lot, because I have been stopped coing out of GT as well. They asked me if I had anything to drink, and luckily I hadn't, then they checked the profile on my tires.
In gerneral they just wanted to hassle me, becsue they knew I was coing ut of someplace I didn't want to be made public.
I had them stop me coming out of PH once as well.
I think they do that late night, becasue in those backwater towns of tönis and brüggen there isn'T much going on at night.
If you often get comments about sweet taste: check yourself for diabetes!
In old Greek doctors tasted patients urin to taste if it was sweet!
...by the wealth of knowledge that you can pick up on this board. LOL.
Neither of these would be worth reporting on their own, but since I can cover 2 subjects, here goes.
Sperm taste: I have had at least 5 girls (all non-pros, all hippie chicks) comment on the taste of my vegetarian spunk. FYI, I'm a real vegetarian; I don't eat fish. According to these chicks it really does taste much better. Better how? I never really pressed too hard for details but apparently its more that it lacks any strong bad taste than any particular quality of its own. If/when it happens again I'll ask her for a taste composition analysis (let's hope I can find a more charming way to phrase it). One girl even said she would only let vegetarians come in her mouth. Come to think of it she asked if I smoked cigarettes or ate meat before she even kissed me so the come in the mouth comment was perhaps a bit redundant.
Also, as I was leaving GT after Sunday 2/17 (which made it about 1:15am on Monday 2/18) we were stopped at the Germany/Holland border going to Venlo. I mention this because the dude giving me a ride was telling me he'd been making this trip pretty much every week for quite some time and he just drives right through. Of course we were discussing this right at the time, and sure enough this time around there were (let's call 'em) cops stopping everybody. He was pretty concerned as he'd had a few (didn't seem drunk to me or I wouldn't have gotten in the car with him, but I have more reasonable standards) and he thought it was a DUI checkpoint. I slipped him a couple Listerine breath strips, but I doubt that would fool a trained DUI officer. They asked for our papers and when they saw my American passport they had us pull over. Everything checked out and we were on our way. No big deal and barely worth mentioning, but who knows what would have happened it I had forgotten to bring my passport. The last thing I wanted was to cause trouble for this dude who didn't even know me!
Does any else remember when a 50 euro session was such a bargain at about $40? Now that same 50 euro session costs $75!! It sure hasn't gotten better, has it? I used to put up with some things because "it was only $40." Now, I find that I am much less willing to deal with bad attitude and service because it "costs" so much more.
Am I the only one who feels that way? I am assuming most of this is immune to those in the EU getting paid in euros, but for those of us in constant dollar jobs, it's getting pretty bad!
Mark
Does any else remember when a 50 euro session was such a bargain at about $40? Now that same 50 euro session costs $75!! It sure hasn't gotten better, has it? I used to put up with some things because "it was only $40." Now, I find that I am much less willing to deal with bad attitude and service because it "costs" so much more.
Am I the only one who feels that way? I am assuming most of this is immune to those in the EU getting paid in euros, but for those of us in constant dollar jobs, it's getting pretty bad!
MarkAh, yes, those of us holding greenbacks are seeing a helluva decline in purchasing power. But consider for a moment what services in the US cost: a typical incall session, in rundown (or worse) surroundings by a less-than -engaged provider averages about $350 and change in many metropolitan areas. Hell, even a standard rub-n-tug can set you back over $200 !!
Even with the current exchange conditions, we should all feel lucky that a FKK session is still "only" $75.
Has any one been to Club Tabulos on "Gang Bang" day. I am planning a trip for late April to Germany and hope to take in this club. How does the program for Gang Bang work, is it one price all inclusive for a limited time, limited action. Any info is appreciated. Thanks
Does any else remember when a 50 euro session was such a bargain at about $40? Now that same 50 euro session costs $75!! It sure hasn't gotten better, has it? I used to put up with some things because "it was only $40." Now, I find that I am much less willing to deal with bad attitude and service because it "costs" so much more.
Am I the only one who feels that way? I am assuming most of this is immune to those in the EU getting paid in euros, but for those of us in constant dollar jobs, it's getting pretty bad!
Mark
Mark,
it's not the euro that is at fault here, but the dollar. It is pretty much in free-fall relative to all other currencies. Remember when Dick Chaney said that deficit spending was OK? Well, it is now time to pay the piper ...
euro
it's not the euro that is at fault here, but the dollar. It is pretty much in free-fall relative to all other currencies. Remember when Dick Chaney said that deficit spending was OK? Well, it is now time to pay the piper ...
The Canadian looney, worth .65 USD just five years back, is now at $1.02.
The American whoring public badly needs a change of administration.
I know the problem is the dollar. But it sounds so much better in my head if I blame the euro! :)
Mark
the low dollar is not really a bad thing for america, at the 1.52 it is at today, it is much more dangerous for europe, which is much more heavily reliant upon exports. at the current levels there is a much greater chance of trade deficits being evened out as maerican goods and services are incredibly competitive on a world stage.
Europe is also somewhat to blame, the ECB focuses only on inflation and is not moving rates, causing the euro to continue to inflate,a nd at the current levels it is dangerous for their countries export economies.
and given how few american truly leave the country, the purchasing power abroad is not really a major consideration in whether it is important that a currency appreciate or depreciate. The democrat candidates are preaching protectionism, whcih could well lead to a further erosion of the US$.
A low $ tends to help america, especially as a way of lessing their backlogged current account deficit.
Ekliges Lauern
03-03-08, 22:04
the low dollar is not really a bad thing for america, at the 1.52 it is at today, it is much more dangerous for europe, which is much more heavily reliant upon exports.
Care to explain to me how an FKK session which cost less than 45 USD in 2002 and now costs more than 75USD in 2008 is good for America? It still doesn't make our working girls competative on the global market.
the low dollar is not really a bad thing for america, at the 1.52 it is at today, it is much more dangerous for europe, which is much more heavily reliant upon exports. at the current levels there is a much greater chance of trade deficits being evened out as maerican goods and services are incredibly competitive on a world stage.
Europe is also somewhat to blame, the ECB focuses only on inflation and is not moving rates, causing the euro to continue to inflate,a nd at the current levels it is dangerous for their countries export economies.
and given how few american truly leave the country, the purchasing power abroad is not really a major consideration in whether it is important that a currency appreciate or depreciate. The democrat candidates are preaching protectionism, whcih could well lead to a further erosion of the US$.
A low $ tends to help america, especially as a way of lessing their backlogged current account deficit.Much of what you say is true; I don't fully agree with the idea that a low dollar is really a good thing, but I'm no economist and I also don't want to start an argument. But for the mongering American it is definitely a bad thing.
Travelling to Europe to monger has become about 50% more expensive than it was 5 years ago. Maybe a little more because of European inflation (€2.50 for a bottle of coke? c'mon!). That's pretty much indisputable. But I also have to wonder if/when this will start to affect things on the homefront. Personally, I depend on "foreign labor" that comes to the States seeking those dollars that are becoming less valuable.
It's a big country and things are different throughout, but at least where I live I can go to an AMP and (usually) get treated like a king for a full hour by a smokin' hot Korean chick, from table shower through FS and just about anything I want in between except anal, for $160. Not a bad deal really, considering it's totally illegal! The flow of hot Korean chicks seems to have lessened in the last couple years mostly because of new immigration rules, but there doesn't seem to be a shortage yet. Still, if the dollar continues to get weaker, will they continue to take that risk to come to work in American AMPs? I have to think many won't, expecially the cuter, younger ones. If their bodies are worth more elsewhere, that's where they will go. And when the supply goes down and demand stays the same, prices go up; I know that much about economics!
So maybe the weak dollar really will help Warren Buffett and Donald Trump and other CEOs and CFOs and SOBs. I couldn't give two shits about them. It ain't gonna help me get laid! And isn't that what's really important?
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1083
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ThanksI get where you’re coming from, but this is the ‘General Topics’ thread after all. I was under the impression this was the place for such peripheral discussions.
Personally, I wish it had been going on before I made my trip a couple weeks ago; I wouldn’t have known to look in that ‘Prices’ thread, but I was reading this one. Because as much as I followed the exchange rate tables, it really didn’t sink in until I started spending my hard earned money. Every time I bought something (mongering excluded, that was all budgeted, but still no real bargain) I couldn’t help but calculate in my head that the true price was really one and half times that. And the prices all seemed high to begin with, on par with Manhattan not even counting the exchange rate. I just wasn’t prepared for it and it was a harsh awakening!
If I’m not mistaken a lot of Americans read this forum. So if some American dude of limited means like myself who is considering an FKK trip for the first time (or the first time in a while) reads this discussion and decides it might be prudent to explore other options where the dollar is stronger, I’d expect he would find this discussion much more valuable than one about sperm taste (which is also a totally valid discussion IMO). Dude, if you’re out there and reading this, keep that in mind: it’s not the best time right now.
Just my 2 cents. And, ya know, being that they’re American cents, they’re not worth that much!
Ekliges Lauern
03-03-08, 23:59
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OK, an FKK related question. I find myself in Zuerich this weeked with two days to kill. If you were me, would you:
1) Sample the local offerings. If so, any suggestions?
2) Take the train to Stuttgart (nice town) and check out an FKK there. Don't know the Stuttgart club as I haven't been to Stuttgart in over five years and I wasn't impressed with the offerings then compared to Atlantis and Oase at the time.
3) Take the train to Augsburg and check out COLA. I have no experience with either COLA or Augsburg so I'm looking for insight from those that do.
4) Take the train to Frankfurt/Main and check out Palace. Been there many times. Somewhat of a semi-regular. That said, I understand the criticism of the place.
5) Same as above, but add the S Bahn to Bad Homburg. Taxi back and forth to Oase.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
OK, an FKK related question. I find myself in Zuerich this weeked with two days to kill. If you were me, would you:
1) Sample the local offerings. If so, any suggestions?
2) Take the train to Stuttgart (nice town) and check out an FKK there. Don't know the Stuttgart club as I haven't been to Stuttgart in over five years and I wasn't impressed with the offerings then compared to Atlantis and Oase at the time.
3) Take the train to Augsburg and check out COLA. I have no experience with either COLA or Augsburg so I'm looking for insight from those that do.
4) Take the train to Frankfurt/Main and check out Palace. Been there many times. Somewhat of a semi-regular. That said, I understand the criticism of the place.
5) Same as above, but add the S Bahn to Bad Homburg. Taxi back and forth to Oase.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Apples and Oranges. Some of the Zurich area clubs are OK, but it will cost you. Most of those which are similar to an FKK club in terms of selection and vibe (Globe, Ypsilon, Zeuss) are outside of the city and you'll need wheels or train connections to get there.Sakura which is in a nearby suburb is very good, not a large selection, but the upstars area is very nicely done. Again not cheap. The other Zurich options are more like private houses than FKK
Of your other options, COLA is very good and recommended if you happen to be in Bayern and looking for hobbying fun. If you're not necessarily stuck there, I think that Oase is a better option.
I'll be in Oase this coming Sunday if you'd like to hook up. PM me if you're interested.
As it sounds that you would be in FKK land more often than Zurich, would suggest a Zurich and area week-end to get the lie of the land as it were..
The clubs/Saunas have been written up so there is information in the thread.
As a suggestion, one day at Club Zeus would be in order and almost mandatory as it is arguably the top FKK/sauna club in Switzerland. A short train ride - 30 minutes or so to Kussnacht am Rigi - 5-7 minute cab ride. You might enjoy yourself so much that you want to do it again the next day.
As a second club - would suggest Fantasyland Sakura again a FKK/Sauna club. In northern Zurich city.
Should keep you fully entertained in Zurich with web sites lnks below to whet your appetite. As both club picks are also mentioned by Iseeu, you can be sure that you won't be the first ISG'er to partake. Enjoy.
www.zeus.ch
www.sakura.ch
CBGBConnisur
03-04-08, 17:14
A link to a picture of an ad for a Hessen FKK club:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jobyla/1089838453/sizes/l/
If you were me, would you:Zürich can be expensive but time is also money so given you have the funding I would definitely say option 1, stay in Zürich. This would also be in the best interest of the ISG member (for the economics nerds out there: the marginal utility for the free rider is higher with this choice).
This is the ‘General Topics’ thread after all. I was under the impression this was the place for such peripheral discussions* You have any career advice for getting maximum salary to spend in FKKs?
* You have any movie recommendations to make me nostalgic about past FKK visits?
Sorry, couldn't resist being a bit ironic:) General Info is about general German FKK issues. Here is an idea.
What I like about German FKKs:
+ Girls are girls, mostly under 30
+ Girls not covered w make-up or drenched w perfume - makes me feel I'm not in brothel;)
+ It's safe, don't have to guard my wallet
+ Girls are nude!
+ I see what I buy
+ Incredible bang for the buck (DFK, BBBJ, DATY), compared to RLD, as long as I select carefully
+ I can freshen up before/after fucking, and expect the girl to be clean too
+ Possibility to spend extended time relaxing until I'm ready for more action
- Expensive entry (compared to RLD)
- If I fancy a girl, it sucks to see her return or walking away with some other dude with the same charming smile she gave me
Has anyone heard anything about adding fkk's to their gps's points of interest section? Was wondering if there was a download somewhere that would let you see the fkk location as your driving by...
If you are looking for a site to download FKK POI for your GPS, try this one:
http://www.isaw-db.com/
It has not only more than 100 FKK in it's database, but also thousand other brothels POI over all Europe as well as in South America and Asia...
... in a perverse and often baffling way.
I decided to take a break from the forum to prove to myself that I'm not as obsessive-compulsive as I think I am.
Work has also gotten in the way of posting, believe it or not.
I'll be back when things quiet down.
The biggest problem with taking a break is that there are so many posts to read to catch up with the current conversations.
I have come to the conclusion I might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip.
I lived for over 20 years in the Los Angles, Ca area so I am use to heavy traffic and congestion. I have also driven all over the USA, including many big cities like Chicago, Atlanta, etc. What concerns me about driving in Europe is off course all the road signs are in a language I don't understand. Did any of you Americans find it difficult driving in Europe the first time? Getting lost easily?
Any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.
... is that you will need to know your geography
Autobahn signs aren't marked with directions (North, South, etc...)
In the Ruhr, z. B., if you are driving in the direction of Duisburg, you will need to know that Duisburg is in the West and that Dortmund is in the East. In between there are the cities of Oberhausen, Essen, Bochum, etc..
So its not so much a language thing as it is in knowing how the cities are laid out with respect to each other.
Yes, expect to get lost.
Also, you need to know that you can't turn on a red light, need to signal when you switch lanes, etc.. and also how to deal with traffic in a traffic circle.
Defiantely get the ticket from Amsterdam - Cologne in advance. The German Rail (www.bahn.de) are doing a special on single tickets. International journeys are from €39 and internal journeys are from €29. It's also worth checking out the other journeys in case they are cheaper as well although DUS to Col is only a 30 minute journey so you probably won't get this any cheaper.
... Duesseldorf to Koeln by rail costs 9,30 Euros one way.
Take the Regionalbahn, not the S-bahn (unless you aren't in a hurry).
Their crazy ticket dispensing machines don't work very well. Sometimes they accept only coins, sometimes only bills.
No, the "Bockschein" (obligatory bill of health) is not obligatory in Germany anymore since a few years now.
There are clubs like Bernds i.e. where the girls have to bring a clean bill regularly if they want to continue working in that club, but there are also clubs where the girls do not need to bring it at all.
.. with the expression: "keinen Bock mehr haben"...
.. with the expression: "keinen Bock mehr haben"...
Glad to see the return of a "must-read" poster. Work is a b*i*t*c*h isn't it, Jackyo? All work and no play does make a dull boy, and we can't be having that can we? ;-))
.. with the expression: "keinen Bock mehr haben"...Good to see ya back Jackyo.
.. with the expression: "keinen Bock mehr haben"...Means also "Keine Lust mehr haben."
I have never been in an FKK club, but would like to visit one when I am next time in NRW area.
I have a question regarding the lockers : what are the dimensions of these lockers?Is it easy to put your clothes in it?
I suppose the dimensions will not be the same in each club.
Thanks for your input.
Looking to do a same day whistle stop tour from London to a FKK.
Whats a good club near a North Germany airport / easy to get to from an airport? Obviously an all-day club reqd.
Cheers
Looking to do a same day whistle stop tour from London to a FKK.
Whats a good club near a North Germany airport / easy to get to from an airport? Obviously an all-day club reqd.
CheersSauna bluenote Dusseldorf. Bout 15 mins drive in taxi, and similar by train.
Jimmy Smits
03-08-08, 22:56
Looking to do a same day whistle stop tour from London to a FKK.
Whats a good club near a North Germany airport / easy to get to from an airport? Obviously an all-day club reqd.
Cheers
PT Traumland is 15 minutes from the airport. It's all day and 150E entry.
Blue Swede
03-08-08, 23:59
I have never been in an FKK club, but would like to visit one when I am next time in NRW area.
I have a question regarding the lockers : what are the dimensions of these lockers?Is it easy to put your clothes in it?
I suppose the dimensions will not be the same in each club.
Thanks for your input.They are lite standard size at any gym. Actually Golden Time and Living Room have exatly the same lockers as my gym at home, the same locks and everything. No problems to fit all you clothes and a small bag.
Blue
Looking to do a same day whistle stop tour from London to a FKK.
Whats a good club near a North Germany airport / easy to get to from an airport? Obviously an all-day club reqd.
Cheers
FKK Samya is about a 15 minute drive from Bonn-Cologne airport and accessible by public transportation.
From Dussledorf airport both Blue Note, as previously noted, and Living Room are short drives and accessible by public transportation.
From Hannover airport FKK Villa can also be reached via taxi- I'm not sure how to get there from the airport via the public transportation.
njoy (and post after your trip)
Means also "Keine Lust mehr haben."
I did some searching and it seems that the word "Bock" in this sense comes from a Gypsy expression (!) about hunger.
I have never been in an FKK club, but would like to visit one when I am next time in NRW area.
I have a question regarding the lockers : what are the dimensions of these lockers?Is it easy to put your clothes in it?
I suppose the dimensions will not be the same in each club.
Thanks for your input.
You will enough room to put your shoes, clothes, etc. in it and a small bag.
If you drag a suitcase with you (I've done this), make sure you can lock it and just place it on top of the locker or somewhere in full view.
So I don't forget what I've placed inside the locker I bring a small flashlight with me to verify I have everything before I leave. This is particularly necessary if you ever visit PT Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld. Their dressing rooms are very, very dark and you can barely see six inches in front of your face.
Glad to see the return of a "must-read" poster. Work is a b*i*t*c*h isn't it, Jackyo? All work and no play does make a dull boy, and we can't be having that can we? ;-))
I am actually just back from a trip there, trying to find the time to do writeups.
It was a break I desperately needed as my current project has me feeling like I'm running a kindergarden. My colleagues are either a) messing up things really badly (I am the only one who can fix what they screw up), b) fighting between themselves, c) sexually harrassing the clients.
Clubs visited on this trip: PT Traumland (first time, some positives, some negatives), PT Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld (my advice: avoid a Bulgarian chick who likes to do painful two finger handjobs), Finca (this club exceeded expectations), Samya (has seen better times selection-wise), Bernds (my favorite club of all time).
More to follow.
Gentlemen,
A different question to you please. We are a couple who are looking for a place in Frankfurt we will be able to go in, strip, walk around and fuck in public. Do any such places exists in Frankfurt?
Thank you in advanced.
Susi and Juergens Swinger Club is pretty good:
http://www.susiundjuergen.de
Gentlemen,
A different question to you please. We are a couple who are looking for a place in Frankfurt we will be able to go in, strip, walk around and fuck in public. Do any such places exists in Frankfurt?
Thank you in advanced.
Why do they blur out the womens genitals in the photos used in all of the FKK and Partytreff Websites?
I would have thought it would be a better selling point to actually show "the guts".
Is it there some German law against it?
Example: http://www.partytreff-gelsenkirchen.de/index2.php?option=com_ponygallery&func=watermark&id=98&orig=1&no_html=1&Itemid=14
Why do they blur out the womens genitals in the photos used in all of the FKK and Partytreff Websites?Don't know, there's some legend in Germany about this guy at Bernd's a while back who impetuously dived down licking some girl's arse out right there on the sofa in front of everyone. I remember being totally shocked myself when I read about in graphic detail on some forum or other. Dunkin' Doughnuts, I thought.
As I say, just a legend. Guess they just want to stop it happening at all the clubs now....
Hessen Bub
03-12-08, 09:32
Is it there some German law against it?
Yes. As these websites are accessible for minors, it is not allowed to show any hardcore pictures.
HB
Yes. As these websites are accessible for minors, it is not allowed to show any hardcore pictures.
HB
Considering what is on German TV at night (also accessible to minors), this law seems rather silly.
Don't know, there's some legend in Germany about this guy at Bernd's a while back who impetuously dived down licking some girl's arse out right there on the sofa in front of everyone. I remember being totally shocked myself when I read about in graphic detail on some forum or other. Dunkin' Doughnuts, I thought.
As I say, just a legend. Guess they just want to stop it happening at all the clubs now....Heh Heh :D
Sannita Sos
03-12-08, 19:53
What it is the best FKK of Germany?
Good number of young end beaufiful girls.
What it is the best FKK of Germany?Glad to say there is a simple answer to such a rudimentary question. Each and every FKK is the best - according to club themselves.
What it is the best FKK of Germany?
Good number of young end beaufiful girls.
... and so it really is a Geschmacksache. You have to decide for yourself.
What it is the best FKK of Germany?
Good number of young end beaufiful girls.
the one that I am in, until it proves otherwise. ;-)
the one that I am in, until it proves otherwise. ;-)
I echo this point of view but with a twist.
For me, the best FKK I've been to is the last one I've been to.
One goes through stages in visiting these clubs.
Complete newbies are in the "shock and awe" phase where they can't believe there has been such a thing going on all this while.
Then there is "must visit every club" phase. This is like an addicition and one keeps thinking that the next club is going to top the last club one visited. As with any addiction, one has to keep raising the dosage otherwise the high isn't as satisfying.
Then there is the "been there, done that" phase which is probably where I am. I've not been to all of these clubs but I've gotten to the point where I seriously doubt that the next club I am going to visit will be much better than the best club I've ever been to.
When I hear or read of a new club, for example, my reaction is: "Cool. But let's wait and see how things shake out before I plan any visits."
....you lie down to die peacefully. And get woken by a Romanian.
....you lie down to die peacefully. And get woken by a Romanian.That's a bit unfair;-) I have met many nice Romanians lately, especially out of Hessen
I seriously doubt that the next club I am going to visit will be much better than the best club I've ever been to.Yeah, but you will see new faces and new pussies which is not a bad deal. IMHO, when you settle down with the one best club, it is for all practical purposes ....... just like a marriage :-)
....you lie down to die peacefully. And get woken by a Romanian.
I laughed at this.
If you are, indeed, awoken by one of the Romanian women who work at World, that would be a nightmare.
On the other hand, if she is like Louisa from Finca, that would be a treat.
I echo this point of view but with a twist.
For me, the best FKK I've been to is the last one I've been to.
One goes through stages in visiting these clubs.
Complete newbies are in the "shock and awe" phase where they can't believe there has been such a thing going on all this while.
Then there is "must visit every club" phase. This is like an addicition and one keeps thinking that the next club is going to top the last club one visited. As with any addiction, one has to keep raising the dosage otherwise the high isn't as satisfying.
Then there is the "been there, done that" phase which is probably where I am. I've not been to all of these clubs but I've gotten to the point where I seriously doubt that the next club I am going to visit will be much better than the best club I've ever been to.
When I hear or read of a new club, for example, my reaction is: "Cool. But let's wait and see how things shake out before I plan any visits."Well said Jacko, that summed it up perfectly, I am at the same stage as you, but as far as facilities, I would go for Oase, for value and service Berdns, and for great looking girls I think the PHG/GT combination. All FKK/suana clubs have their pros and cons, but some just have cons, I don't need to name it do I? , but it has a Turkish theme. LOL,
Just my thoughts.
Jimmy Smits
03-16-08, 20:54
It seems to have disappered.
…to paraphrase Seinfeld. All the large clubs in Germany are FKKs, but west of Düsseldorf all bets are off. All the large clubs there are saunaclubs and I doubt there even exists an FKK west of D-dorf. It must have something to do with the proximity to the Dutch border. Every other visitor to these clubs is a non-German. Why would a new club like Villa Vertigo offer dressed girls if the Dutch clientele actually preferred nude girls? If the Dutch preferred nude girls, an FKK in the area would wipe out all the competition. Is a fetish for dessous and bikini like a national character in Benelux countries? Any thoughts?
…to paraphrase Seinfeld. All the large clubs in Germany are FKKs, but west of Düsseldorf all bets are off. All the large clubs there are saunaclubs and I doubt there even exists an FKK west of D-dorf. It must have something to do with the proximity to the Dutch border. Every other visitor to these clubs is a non-German. Why would a new club like Villa Vertigo offer dressed girls if the Dutch clientele actually preferred nude girls? If the Dutch preferred nude girls, an FKK in the area would wipe out all the competition. Is a fetish for dessous and bikini like a national character in Benelux countries? Any thoughts?
.. and one which I have asked myself before.
The Golden Triangle clubs do seem to favor women who are dressed rather than nude and it stands out like a sore thumb.
Is there a local ordinance which requires it?
just wanted to give Everhard's post a bump for those who might find having fkk clubs on google earth.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=507807#post507807
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