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Henio, I see you wrote this at 2.14am.
So I'm wondering if you sleep in that condom as well?
If so, I presume you have to sleep on your belly or is the oxygen tank detachable? Nah, I take it off once I am out of the club. It is impossible to drive in that thing. Here is one that is made for "her pleasure": http://theelwoods.net/images/DBO_BubbleBoy.JPG
I was surfing a couple of my favorite "video" sites and I came across a video of action inside what appears to be a Japanese FKK! I didn't know they had such establishments in Japan. As a matter of fact, the letters "FKK" show up as the title at about 1:07 into the video.
If it was really an FKK in Asia somewhere, there were similarities to our beloved German FKKs:
1. The girls were topless and only wearing bikini bottoms
2. The guys were wearing towels
3. There was a buffet
The biggest difference was that the sex appeared to happen right out in the common area. There were what looked like hallways to private rooms, and, every once in a while, a couple would walk together in the the main room.
Has anyone else seen this? Is this a real FKK in Japan? Anybody been there? Has anyone seen a video from inside a German FKK or Partytreff anywhere on the web (other than the "tour" video on the FKK's site)?
Pretty interesting stuff!
Link: http://video.xnxx.com/video126808/asian_orgy_house
Member #4285
06-13-09, 20:19
I was surfing a couple of my favorite "video" sites and I came across a video of action inside what appears to be a Japanese FKK! I didn't know they had such establishments in Japan. As a matter of fact, the letters "FKK" show up as the title at about 1:07 into the video.
I think its 100% fake. And with fake I mean all is fixed more or less. Like all the swinger vids. The better picature quality and girls the more fake it is..
I think its 100% fake. And with fake I mean all is fixed more or less. Like all the swinger vids. The better picature quality and girls the more fake it is..I have to admit that the "fake" aspects centered around a couple of things:
- Everything was bareback
- There was one sequence where the guy pulled the lady's leg up & over his shoulder in a classic porn position in order to expose penetration.
Real or fake, I wonder how many of us would have traded everything we have to have been one of those guys.
It is a Japanese Porno from One Piece Entertainment.
http://www.xonair.com/detail.cfm?id=10090319&pid=home&lang=US
I have to admit that the "fake" aspects centered around a couple of things:
- Everything was bareback
- There was one sequence where the guy pulled the lady's leg up & over his shoulder in a classic porn position in order to expose penetration.
Real or fake, I wonder how many of us would have traded everything we have to have been one of those guys.
Vito Corleone
06-17-09, 02:24
World Health Organization declares swine flu pandemic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/2009/06/090611_pandemic_nh_sl.shtml
What are your latest thoughts on catching swine flu in German sex clubs?
Have any of you guys caught it yet?
Has anyone heard of any working girl that may have caught it for instance?
Are we at a bigger risk of being infected by visiting these clubs than the general population who dont visit?
I assume the girls have a bigger risk of catching swine flu because they come into much closer proximity with strangers than the average person?
Have any of you guys stopped visiting sex clubs for fear of catching it?
Please give your feedback cos I am concerned about this. After all condoms wont stop swine flu.
I was in the clubs recently for 6 days & the swine flu was the last thing on my mind.
World Health Organization declares swine flu pandemic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/2009/06/090611_pandemic_nh_sl.shtml
What are your latest thoughts on catching swine flu in German sex clubs?
Have any of you guys caught it yet?
Has anyone heard of any working girl that may have caught it for instance?
Are we at a bigger risk of being infected by visiting these clubs than the general population who dont visit?
I assume the girls have a bigger risk of catching swine flu because they come into much closer proximity with strangers than the average person?
Have any of you guys stopped visiting sex clubs for fear of catching it?
Please give your feedback cos I am concerned about this. After all condoms wont stop swine flu.My personal theory is that licking lots of pussy and DFKing as many girls as I can strengthens my immune system. So frequenting an FKK is actually protecting you from the swine flue (in particular if you do lots of doggie ... :))
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor, neither do I play one on TV. I just like to play doctor, if you know what I mean.
I was in the clubs recently for 6 days & the swine flu was the last thing on my mind.Why should you worry.
You don't f*** pigs.
I am wearing an airtight full body size condom. The biggest problem is the oxygen tank I have to drag along, but it is a great conversation starter in the clubs.
Anyways, not worried about the swine flu any more than any other flu. I used to catch all kind of flu shit doing FKK stuff years back, but got into the habit of using Listering mouthwash before and after sessions and eating the Listerine thins from the pocket packs in between that and it has kept me away from getting catching any kind of flu or other similar crap for the last few years.Ditto on the Listerine and pocket packs. Also, taking the immune boosting herbal and vitamin supplement Airborne every six hours starting the day before boarding the plane has kept me clear of any infections. And at the first hint of nasal or sinus stuffiness, I hit the sauna and breathe the hot air in deeply- steam room too.
Then I go and swap spit, munch muschi, and lick ass of as many hotties as I can manage. Rinse and repeat.
MrBoring37
06-23-09, 00:37
Hey guys I have 5 questions
I am arriving in frankfurt at 12:00 pm on wednesday I would like to know
1) How do I get to FKK Oase via public transportation from frankfurt airport and how long does it take?
2) How do I get to Frankfurt to Cologne to visit pascha by public transportation and howl long does it take?
3) How do I get to amsterdam by train from Frankfurt airport?
4) Does frankfurt and Cologne have a RED light district and what is it like??
5) Last but not least what hotel should i stay at in frankfurt thats is a "value bargain" hotel that will help me best going to fkk oase, then colgne to pasha , then amsterdam???
Vito Corleone
06-23-09, 23:19
Hey guys I have 5 questions
I am arriving in frankfurt at 12:00 pm on wednesday I would like to know
1) How do I get to FKK Oase via public transportation from frankfurt airport and how long does it take?
2) How do I get to Frankfurt to Cologne to visit pascha by public transportation and howl long does it take?
3) How do I get to amsterdam by train from Frankfurt airport?
4) Does frankfurt and Cologne have a RED light district and what is it like??
5) Last but not least what hotel should i stay at in frankfurt thats is a "value bargain" hotel that will help me best going to fkk oase, then colgne to pasha , then amsterdam???#1 take S bahn to Friedrichsdorf about 35 minutes. 5 minute taxi ride to Oase.
#4 frankfurt has a RLD & I think it is crap compared to the FKK's. If you are on a budget, RLD might work for you.
#5 There is a great hostel in Slovakia.
www.bahn.de for train shcedules.
Ekliges Lauern
06-24-09, 02:53
Hey guys I have 5 questions
I am arriving in frankfurt at 12:00 pm on wednesday I would like to know
1) How do I get to FKK Oase via public transportation from frankfurt airport and how long does it take?
2) How do I get to Frankfurt to Cologne to visit pascha by public transportation and howl long does it take?
3) How do I get to amsterdam by train from Frankfurt airport?
4) Does frankfurt and Cologne have a RED light district and what is it like??
5) Last but not least what hotel should i stay at in frankfurt thats is a "value bargain" hotel that will help me best going to fkk oase, then colgne to pasha , then amsterdam???1) Under 1 hour, S8 to hbf, change to S5 to Bad Homburg, take Taxi to Oase
2) Frankfurt hbf to Koeln hbf 1:11 to 1:30 minutes on the ICE. Don't know local transit to Pascha. www.bahn.de
3) 6 direct ICE trains a day. Just under 4 hours. www.bahn.de
4) Can only speak to Frankfurt RLD. Kind of fun for window shopping. Can't say it is a particularly good value. If you go with one of the Thai "women", well let's just say have you ever seen the movie "The Crying Game"? And no, I'm not answering any questions on this subject. Stick to the FKKs. Fewer surprises.
5) Excelcior downtown is cheap and convenient, but a bit of a dump. Mercur in Friedrichsdorf is a favorite with mongers, but you should probably have a car. Suggest you look at www.hrs.com .
MrBoring37
06-24-09, 11:59
Thanks EK and Vito.
MrNiceGuys
06-25-09, 01:21
Does anybody know what there is to do in Oktoberfest (anything to see, visit or parties)? Is Munich the only city that celebrates it or can I visit Frankfurt or Berlin and see the same celebrations? the reason I ask is because most of you know Germany pretty well and I figure I'll stop in a few FKK's while I'm there.
See here:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=910516&postcount=250
Hi,
I am coming to Frankfurt but I am not planning to rent a car and will only rely on public transportation or Taxi. So, my questions is:
Which hotel/inn is closed to a FKK in Frankfurt? (I am planning to visit more than one FKK but don't want to spend a lot on Taxi fees neither. So, which hotel/inn is center of 2 or 3 FKK.)
Thanks
Hi,
I am coming to Frankfurt but I am not planning to rent a car and will only rely on public transportation or Taxi. So, my questions is:
Which hotel/inn is closed to a FKK in Frankfurt? (I am planning to visit more than one FKK but don't want to spend a lot on Taxi fees neither. So, which hotel/inn is center of 2 or 3 FKK.)
Thanks
B and B hotel is very close to Oase and the airport, Palace is close by to the south in Frankfurt, and FKK is World is also close to the north. Free internet in the room, a 24 hour Mc Donalds right next door and a gas station with convenience store also right next door. 138 for three nights. Highly recommended.
http://bb-frankfurt-nord.hotel-rez.com/
According to google map, it is about 20 minutes drive from B & B to Oase. I may not be able to get there by walking. But, with a taxi, it is not too far. Thank you, Beffen1.
B and B hotel is very close to Oase and the airport, Palace is close by to the south in Frankfurt, and FKK is World is also close to the north. Free internet in the room, a 24 hour Mc Donalds right next door and a gas station with convenience store also right next door. 138 for three nights. Highly recommended.
http://bb-frankfurt-nord.hotel-rez.com/
A few more questions -
1) Is it easy to get a Taxi in Frankfurt? (for both ways. from hotel to FKK and then FKK to hotel). I have a US driver license but no GPS with German map so Taxi is my first choice.
2) Is it possible to ask the FKK girl to come to the hotel room when they are free?
Hi,
I am coming to Frankfurt but I am not planning to rent a car and will only rely on public transportation or Taxi. So, my questions is:
Which hotel/inn is closed to a FKK in Frankfurt? (I am planning to visit more than one FKK but don't want to spend a lot on Taxi fees neither. So, which hotel/inn is center of 2 or 3 FKK.)
Thanks
If you do not want to spend a lot of money on taxi and want to visit Palace, Oase, and World, you may want to stay at a hotel near FFM HBF (main train station). To get to Oase, you can take the S-bahn from FFM HBF to Bad Homburg or Friedrichsdorf and then taxi to Oase for a total of ~€12. Total travel time is < 45 minutes. You can get to Palace by S-bahn and U-bahn from FFM HBF in < 30 minutes and it should cost you less than €3 one way. It's slightly more difficult and costs more to get to World by public transportation from Frankfurt. You will need to take the regional train to Giessen and then take either taxi, bus, or a combination of HLB train and bus from Giessen to World. The total travel time is > 1.5 hour. A Giessen day ticket costs you ~€26 and you can use it for the regional train, HLB train, and bus rides for the whole day (round trip) within the greater Giessen region. If you want to take the taxi from Giessen train station to World, it is roughly ~€18 oneway.
You can search this forum for detailed instructions and directions to get to these clubs. You can also get directions from the agents at DB Reisezentrum at FFM HBF if you give them your destination addresses. But if you just want to stick with 1 FKK, then it makes more sense to stay at a hotel near it.
According to google map, it is about 20 minutes drive from B & B to Oase. I may not be able to get there by walking. But, with a taxi, it is not too far. Thank you, Beffen1. Beffen means B&B Nord. I would say about 10 minute drive. If I remember right it is about 8 kms to Oase from the B&B Nord. That would be close to 2 hour walk.
Great suggestion by Atooz.
Henio, you are right. It is 10 minutes drive from B & B to World.
My current plan is to rely on Taxi for a few days and get to familiar with local roads and then start using the public transportation or get a rental car. Now, I get the idea.
Thanks a lot for your suggestion, gentlemen.
Great suggestion by Atooz.
Henio, you are right. It is 10 minutes drive from B & B to World.
My current plan is to rely on Taxi for a few days and get to familiar with local roads and then start using the public transportation or get a rental car. Now, I get the idea.
Thanks a lot for your suggestion, gentlemen. IMO, rental car is absolutely the most reasonable option. Why wait until you are familiar with the roads, you will save a lot of time and money renting a car from the start if you are planning to visit more than one club.
Because I don't want get lost.
Btw, what the car rental rate per day for econy class including insurance?
Do they have gps option? I have old navman ics 510 but need to buy German map.
IMO, rental car is absolutely the most reasonable option. Why wait until you are familiar with the roads, you will save a lot of time and money renting a car from the start if you are planning to visit more than one club.
Because I don't want get lost.
Btw, what the car rental rate per day for econy class including insurance?
Do they have gps option? I have old navman ics 510 but need to buy German map. hertz.de, long weekend for around 80 euros. Usually can find similar deals at Europcar (although I find hertz to have the best ones last couple of years). For one day rental try sixti.de or Avis basic. All car rental companies can provide gps, but if you are doing more than one visit, I would suggest you buy the german map and carry your own. If you are doing several FKK visits, the difference in price of train/taxi option will be enough to pay for you german map unless you are gonna do the train/bus option which will take you forever f.ex. when visiting World and you are dependent on someone elses schedule.
oh, and doing train/taxi to places like Oase will probably not help you all that much once you do it on your own. You will probably still get lost :-)
(including Initial Visit to FKK Oase)
I made my first FKK Trip back in June 2009 (19th to 22nd June) and have already booked my flight for a second trip in a few weeks time. Like last time, I will be travelling with a buddy from the Southern Hemisphere and this trip we hope to travel further north (towards Düsseldorf) and visit clubs up near the Dutch border.
I’m no blushing newbie at this game. I’ve travelled in the past to the Czech Republic (and posted a few reports in these hallowed web-pages about those adventures) and have also ventured as far as the Land of Smiles (Thailand).
I owe a debt of gratitude to all you guys who regularly post in the Germany FKK section of ISG. A big debt of gratitude, because I really had a great time last June when I visited FKK Oase and FKK World. The information that I found here, was invaluable and in no small way helped to make that trip a very successful escapade indeed. I’d like to thank you all for that!
To pay you back for your good deeds, I thought I’d write a report which would possibly encourage those who have yet to take their first faltering FKK steps. It is my hope that the details of my recent trip will assist in the planning of your own German adventure.
It’s nice to travel with company (especially when making an initial trip). There is a tendency, when travelling alone, to take the easier option and go to places which are more accessible, especially when your knowledge of the German language is rather limited! Therefore my first piece of advice is to travel (if possible) with a like minded adventurer (either friend or acquaintance) who will keep you engaged in conversation when you are not otherwise occupied!
You could do worse than team up with one of the guys who regularly submit reports in this forum. Obviously a certain amount of caution must be exercised when undertaking to meet up with someone for the first time. Best to meet up with one of the chaps who have submitted multiple reports, because you can definitely get a good feeling for who someone is and what they are about from the content of the reports which they have written. Any of the guys who I have adventured with either from this forum or other forums or boards have turned out to be terrific guys. I met up with Mr. C in this manner when travelling to Thailand and I also had the good fortune to meet up with Creature2 from this forum back in June. You could not do better than team up with either of these chaps on your travels in Germany.
If I were a lone traveller and if my buddy Mr. C was not travelling with me, I probably would have headed straight for Frankfurt and the delights of Palace! I’d have stayed next door in Fleming’s Hotel. Flown in to Frankfurt on a Friday evening and flown out again on Sunday night or possibly Monday morning. Nothing wrong with this, it’s a good plan for a lone traveller making his first visit to an FKK. It’s what Mr. C did (more or less) the first time he travelled and he had a GREAT time in Palace.
However, the point of this report is to explain to the prospective lone traveller that it is easy to be a little bolder and venture further from Frankfurt and taste the delights of what FKK Oase and FKK World have to offer.
Of course, I’m not exactly a budget traveller and this report is not aimed at providing you with the cheapest methods of getting about. I’m not one for taking trains or busses, especially when a lot of these FKK establishments (such as Oase and World) are located in the outskirts of towns some 30 to 45 minutes drive from Frankfurt. I like my comforts, so rather than be restricted to bus or train timetables; I prefer to rent a car. These clubs are open all day and into the wee hours (3 a.m.) It’s possible to spend an entire day in these establishments. If the weather is good you can spend the day by the outdoor pool. Indeed if the weather is inclement it is also possible to spend the day by the indoor pool and be in close proximity to the Jacuzzi and Steam Room. Whether outdoor or indoor you are never too far away from a cabana or bedroom and some naked nubile lovely who is willing to accompany you to one of these rooms (for a fee of course!).
Therefore in order to be able to come and go at whatever time I please, I select as my first preference to rent a car. Taxis can be expensive specially if you end up travelling 30/40 kilometres back to your hotel at one or two a.m. Besides, there is some great value to be had when renting a motor vehicle in Germany. Sixt are currently providing some terrific weekend deals at the moment directly off their website (www.sixt.com). You do need to reserve the car a few weeks in advance to get the best possible rates. However, if you do opt to reserve your vehicle a few weeks before your travel date, it is possible to rent a reasonably sized car (Ford Mondeo) from Friday to Monday for as little as €180 approx (this price even includes super insurance and a Satellite Navigation System). The cost does offer only a limited number of free kilometres. Usually 800 free kilometres out of Frankfurt and 1200 free kilometres out of Düsseldorf. However as you are not likely to spend the weekend travelling to see the magnificent castles dotted about the Rhineland and are more likely to have the car parked outside an FKK, it is extremely unlikely that you will ever exceed the above limits!
OK... so I’ve explained to you that renting a car is not necessarily a very expensive proposition. My next piece of advice, if you do decide to go ahead and get your own wheels (and if you are not familiar with motoring in Germany) is to make sure and have a Satellite Navigation System rented with the car (or bring your own Sat Nav device along). This piece of equipment is invaluable in finding places like FKK World for the first time. Ok, its still possible to use a map, but unless you have all day to spend pottering about the German countryside in search of the holy grail (in this case either FKK Oase or World), my advice is to use a Sat Nav and get there quickly and with little fuss. Also there is an advantage in renting a car with Sat Nav (from Sixt) as there is a greater likelihood of you getting upgraded to a superior vehicle as they tend to have these devices fitted to their more upmarket autos (at least that’s my experience anyway!).
The next question is where to stay! The Mercure hotels in Bad Homburg and Wetzlar (www.accorhotels.com) are currently offering some good value for weekend travellers (from €41 per night for a basic room). The hotels are of a very good standard and are of the 3 or 4 star category (Ireland and UK standards). The Mercure Bad Homburg offers free parking, wifi/broadband access in the lobby (free) and in the bedroom (extra charge). Both hotels have swimming pools and superior and privilege rooms are also available with minibar, bathrobe and slippers, bigger TV for extra monies. The Mercure Bad Homburg is a short drive (or taxi ride if you want to have a beer or three) from Oase. The journey takes about 15 minutes. The Mercure Hotel Kongress Wetzlar is of similar distance from FKK World. Incidentally there is a Best Western located closer to FKK World (Best Western Steinsgarten) but this hotel has web specials starting at €76! So very expensive for a Best Western (and quiet an old hotel too I’m led to believe… although I cannot be sure as I have not stayed there and can only judge from website photographs).
Anyway, enough with the travel advice! Time for some information about my first trip to an FKK.!
Oase (located on the outskirts of Freidricksdorf).
I wont bore you with descriptions of the club because you are either already very familiar with the place and if not already familiar you can access accurate pictures of the club from the website (www.fkk-oase.de).
I visited the club on Saturday evening (20th June) at around 9 p.m. At reception you are given a robe, slippers and a key for a locker into which you put your clothes and belongings. You are charged €65 for this priviledge, but this price does include food and drink. The locker was located inside the club down a long flight of stairs which is a bit awkward as I ended up going back and forth to this locker in order to get cash. There are smaller lockers beside the bar but we were not offered access to one of these perhaps because the place was busy and all the small lockers were taken or perhaps the key to the big locker also worked with one of the smaller lockers and we did not realise this. I’m not sure. Anyway I found the place to be very busy that Saturday night! In fact it was probably a little too crowded. Mr. C thought the place to be overly full with too many blokes. But I thought there was a good buzz about the place. In fairness there did appear to be a plentiful supply of women but because the weather was poor for that time of year (it had been raining and it was also a little chilly) not many people were making use of the fantastic garden facilities and were staying indoors, thus creating the crowded impression.
Mr. C suggested that the crowd would thin out a bit after 11 p.m. because visitors would head away to catch the last available trains/buses. He was correct in this assertion because the numbers inside the club did decrease around this time, perhaps another advantage to driving or staying in a hotel which is a short taxi ride from the club.
To be honest, the number of people present did not bother me too much as this was my first visit to an FKK and I was just delighted to be there at all! There is a very clubby feel about Oase (at least that’s what I thought that Saturday night! There seemed to be many groups of guys there for a fun night out. This club like atmosphere was heightened by the fact that later that night the Vitali Klitschko Heavyweight Championship Fight was shown on big screen TV. I found this quiet funny as the fight caused a sudden downturn in business for the girls which appeared to cause some little annoyance to some of the ladies. I have to say that this was one of the better sporting events that I have watched on TV. As who could complain about viewing a Boxing Title Fight in the company of beautiful naked women!
I shall return!
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Because I don't want get lost.
Btw, what the car rental rate per day for econy class including insurance?
Do they have gps option? I have old navman ics 510 but need to buy German map.
GPS works quite well, but is not fool proof. You can also get precise directions from viamichellin. You will get there if you follow the directions to the letter, but it is no help if you get lost or have to take a detour. Best advice is to wear belt as well as suspenders.
Hessen Bub
08-09-09, 12:02
OK, it's Spain, not Germany, but it fits into the FKK-section:
Riviera near Barcelona was closed by the authorities. That's what was posted on a German Board.
HB
Psycho Project
08-09-09, 12:34
Hello,
I'm coming to Berlin next week and would like to visit Artemis one night.
Does anyone know how to get there by subway since I won't rent a car or take a taxi?
Your answer is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
OK, it's Spain, not Germany, but it fits into the FKK-section:
Riviera near Barcelona was closed by the authorities. That's what was posted on a German Board.
HB
True. It was closed in March, and is expected to reopen in September. Well, that is what the BCN thread of this fine forum say anyway. ;-)
Gfe Finder
08-10-09, 01:03
True. It was closed in March, and is expected to reopen in September. Well, that is what the BCN thread of this fine forum say anyway. ;-)
Glad to hear that! I have yet to find a higher quantity of optifucks than I did there.
You give some good advice here, except believe it or not even in this day & age there exist people that can't drive a car! Personally, since I lived in New York all my life, I've lived a sheltered life which have not demanded driving! I get myself everywhere on the subway.
In this case, I have to depend on the kindness of fellow mongers for my first trip to the FKK/PT scene of Germany in late spring of 2010!
I hope I CAN find common scheduling time with a few vets here, lol. I'll definitely kick in on expenses & Beer.
How much does the girls at Oase, World & Palace want for a session?
I will ask this question out of a lack of knowledge and an enjoyment of trying out "newbies".
I have visited a few of the FKK's in the Frankfurt and NW areas and posted a few reports.
I would like to know if someone could give me an idea of where (within say a 100km radius of Frankfurt) I would most likely find a FKK that girls new to the business of P4P would go to seek employment.
I am not sure if the big clubs (Oase, Palace, etc) or the smaller clubs like Fenica, or Atlantik are more likely or is it impossible to know.
I suspect that one or two of the more prolific posters on this forum will have a pretty good insight on this matter.
I have been to Oase many times and enjoy the outdoor activities, but the last couple of trips haven't yielded the "fun quotient" I have been accustomed in the past.
I really had a great time at a place called Atlantis (the new one, not the famous one), but it seems they closed around March sometime. I heard they were planning to reopen this month, but don't know for sure.
I went to Blue Laguna, that won't happen again. Also tried Atlantik and had a good time, is a possibility for a repeat....FWIW they have a great masseuse.
Any other recommends would be appreciated. I know of the clubs further north, but I can't make an overnight this trip and don't want to drive two hours after a day of mongering!
Thanks to all!!
Sky
Its possible to travel to the Frankfurt clubs without renting a car. It will definitely mean depending on trains and taxis and I would recommend that you stay locally (i.e. near to the FKK in question).
Luckily enough there is a reasonably good choice in hotels in or around Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen and Giessen (FKK Oase & FKK World).
So in answer to your question, you can travel independently and visit these clubs but maybe better (easier) to team up with a fellow monger who can drive and split the cost of renting a car etc.
Early days yet, but if you want to get in contact in the New Year (2010) and if schedules coincide, maybe we can arrange to meet up. But early days yet!
You give some good advice here, except believe it or not even in this day & age there exist people that can't drive a car! Personally, since I lived in New York all my life, I've lived a sheltered life which have not demanded driving! I get myself everywhere on the subway.
In this case, I have to depend on the kindness of fellow mongers for my first trip to the FKK/PT scene of Germany in late spring of 2010!
I hope I CAN find common scheduling time with a few vets here, lol. I'll definitely kick in on expenses & Beer.
How much does the girls at Oase, World & Palace want for a session?
Basketcase
08-12-09, 20:38
I will ask this question out of a lack of knowledge and an enjoyment of trying out "newbies".
I have visited a few of the FKK's in the Frankfurt and NW areas and posted a few reports.
I would like to know if someone could give me an idea of where (within say a 100km radius of Frankfurt) I would most likely find a FKK that girls new to the business of P4P would go to seek employment.
I am not sure if the big clubs (Oase, Palace, etc) or the smaller clubs like Fenica, or Atlantik are more likely or is it impossible to know.
I suspect that one or two of the more prolific posters on this forum will have a pretty good insight on this matter.
I have been to Oase many times and enjoy the outdoor activities, but the last couple of trips haven't yielded the "fun quotient" I have been accustomed in the past.
I really had a great time at a place called Atlantis (the new one, not the famous one), but it seems they closed around March sometime. I heard they were planning to reopen this month, but don't know for sure.
I went to Blue Laguna, that won't happen again. Also tried Atlantik and had a good time, is a possibility for a repeat....FWIW they have a great masseuse.
Any other recommends would be appreciated. I know of the clubs further north, but I can't make an overnight this trip and don't want to drive two hours after a day of mongering!
Thanks to all!!
Sky
Hi Sky Ryder,
From the reports the club with a general induction of girls new to being a CDL is FKK World. I feel the same about this club whenever I am in FKK World. There is always seems to be new talent at that club imported from Romania and Bulgaria. There is also new talent at FKK Oase and FKK Palace but remember FKK Palace has an age restriction that bans CDLs that are less than 21 years of age. I think because of the age ban at FKK Palace that the CDLs at Palace would tend to be more experienced.
I find many decent and service orientated CDLs at Oase but I think World wins the stakes when it comes to amateur girls. I come across more than one session at World where the service has been lacking and inexperienced.
You have not listed FKK World has being one of your visited clubs so it may be worth you going there to find out. As World is 70 Km from FFM it is well within your 100 Km radius.
Senior member Ekliges Lauern in his post 866176 discusses the Sofia - Bucuresti - Pohlheim Express that succintly details what type of newbies to the profession to expect.
A bit more out of your way but on the topic of newbie CDLs, Sir Screwalot in his post 911467 discusses the recruitment methodolgy of Yin Yang versus Golden Time and for ease I have quoted his explanation below:
The rest of the crowd looked like they all came with the same bus from Moldavia/Bulgaria/Romania. The bus driver obviously let the nice looking girls out at GT, and then proceeded to drop off the remaining passengers at YY
This quote made me laugh and had me in stiches.
Basketcase
08-12-09, 20:49
You give some good advice here, except believe it or not even in this day & age there exist people that can't drive a car! Personally, since I lived in New York all my life, I've lived a sheltered life which have not demanded driving! I get myself everywhere on the subway.
In this case, I have to depend on the kindness of fellow mongers for my first trip to the FKK/PT scene of Germany in late spring of 2010!
I hope I CAN find common scheduling time with a few vets here, lol. I'll definitely kick in on expenses & Beer.
How much does the girls at Oase, World & Palace want for a session?
Almotu,
You do not need to depend on the kindness of strangers. You can take your destiny into your own hands and take mass public transport like the common person does and what you seem to do too in NYC, NY, USA.
Please refer to the detail in the post attached:
How to get to FKK Oase via public transport 866176
As for what the CDLs want to be paid for a session at Palace, World and Oase then that depends on what you want to do. Half hour with a bit of bareback suck and covered fuck will cost you €50 as a starter.
Please report back here your experiences of your trip.
Cheers,
Almotu
Yes, it is easy and inexpensive to get to any of the Frankfurt clubs via Public transport. Simply do a search, in each Forum. Using "Public Transportation". Many members have posted on this issue including yours truly.
Quite honestly, after 4-5 sessions, the last thing I want to do is drive back to my hotel.,
Have fun.
Strato
You give some good advice here, except believe it or not even in this day & age there exist people that can't drive a car! Personally, since I lived in New York all my life, I've lived a sheltered life which have not demanded driving! I get myself everywhere on the subway.
In this case, I have to depend on the kindness of fellow mongers for my first trip to the FKK/PT scene of Germany in late spring of 2010!
I hope I CAN find common scheduling time with a few vets here, lol. I'll definitely kick in on expenses & Beer.
How much does the girls at Oase, World & Palace want for a session?
Hi Sky Ryder,
From the reports the club with a general induction of girls new to being a CDL is FKK World. I feel the same about this club whenever I am in FKK World. There is always seems to be new talent at that club imported from Romania and Bulgaria. There is also new talent at FKK Oase and FKK Palace but remember FKK Palace has an age restriction that bans CDLs that are less than 21 years of age. I think because of the age ban at FKK Palace that the CDLs at Palace would tend to be more experienced.
I find many decent and service orientated CDLs at Oase but I think World wins the stakes when it comes to amateur girls. I come across more than one session at World where the service has been lacking and inexperienced.
You have not listed FKK World has being one of your visited clubs so it may be worth you going there to find out. As World is 70 Km from FFM it is well within your 100 Km radius.
Senior member Ekliges Lauern in his post 866176 discusses the Sofia - Bucuresti - Pohlheim Express that succintly details what type of newbies to the profession to expect.
A bit more out of your way but on the topic of newbie CDLs, Sir Screwalot in his post 911467 discusses the recruitment methodolgy of Yin Yang versus Golden Time and for ease I have quoted his explanation below:
This quote made me laugh and had me in stiches.
Basketcase,
It is hard to believe it has been a year since I began my most recent touring of FKK clubs. I certainly appreciate your suggestions and will find my way to world on Friday in case anyone wants to join in the fun!
Hey folks, I dunno how many people like to fly on Lufthansa... they're not always the cheapest but they're frequently the most convenient, since they have the most flights from all over the US to Germany, but I came across a promo that will knock $100 off your next ticket.
Here are the conditions:
1. You need to book your trip by August 17, 2009.
2. Travel must take place between July 20 and December 31, 2009.
3. Only one promotion code may be applied per reservation, regardless if there are several persons traveling together.
4. After you "Enter your promotion code" be sure to click the "Apply promotion code" button.
5. Tickets must be purchased with a U.S. credit card and originate from one of the Lufthansa U.S. gateways.
http://www.lhpromos.com/?id=EAM_WIB2_072009
Sorry for it expiring by Monday, but maybe there are some out there pretty close to pulling the trigger on a trip that can use the discount.
Gentleman Travel
08-18-09, 15:10
Are FKKs mostly individually owned, or are there a few major chains?
Has anyone mapped the major FKK clubs?
I am familiar with the Palace in Frankfurt,
but am not familiar enough with German geography
to understand where many of the other clubs are
with respect to major cities.
Thanks,
Pertinent as of 2007
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=108153548997851833243.000434982c605612cb3e1&t=h&z=6
I hope it helps
Gentleman Travel
08-19-09, 15:29
Pertinent as of 2007
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=108153548997851833243.000434982c605612cb3e1&t=h&z=6
I hope it helps
Perfect! Thank you!
Didn't realize there were so many near Frankfurt.
Pertinent as of 2007
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=108153548997851833243.000434982c605612cb3e1&t=h&z=6
That map leaves out a number of clubs, at least in the NRW area. Among those missing are Living Room, Villa Vertigo, Villa Marisol, Van Goch, Fun Garden, Römerbad, Salon Rouge and Mediteran. Some of the latter ones are AFAIK rather small, but I consider LR and VV essential on such a map.
See the Google Map Project tread under the Germany forum for more options:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2981
Both the ISAW-db.com map for Germany and der Monger's map
(http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=5)
are quite extensive, but also lists more than just FKK clubs.
Thanks for the new map. I needed to update my map since it was already 2 years old.
Hello.
I am reporting on another one week marathon I made in NRW at the end of July.
I know I am late, later than usual, but time for writing was really short this time, and at a certain point I thought of giving it up and left the report half way for several days. But finally I decided to complete it.
Better late than never.
I am accomplishing so a sort of moral duty I have with you, I also could live those moments again in my mind and finally I am feeling now of turning this page of my life to move my thoughts to other, perhaps less pleasant but necessary, challenges.
This tour was quite contrasted, with very good moments, worth to be remembered, as well as very bad ones.
Next: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=919497&postcount=360
I was wondering if any of the FKK clubs have shared showers between the girls and the guys. I have been to FKK World which has shared lockerroom and the girls undress along with the guys (which is just great!), however for some reason the ladies have separate shower room. In others like FKK Oase and FKK Artemis the ladies have completely separate lockerroom. Which other FKK clubs besides FKK World have shared lockerroom for girls and guys together?
Do any FKK clubs have shared showers, with the girls showering together with the guys?
Gfe Finder
08-23-09, 00:25
Do any FKK clubs have shared showers, with the girls showering together with the guys?
Golden Time in Brüggen has co-ed showers, but not co-ed locker rooms IIRC. (This was a while ago for me and I hope things haven't changed.)
CherchezFemme
08-23-09, 00:32
Can someone fluent in German PLEASE PM me asap because I need to navigate a couple of websites.
Danke!
Samya in Cologne has side-by-side glass shower stalls shared by everyone. Locker rooms are separate. At least that's how it was the last time I visited it 2 years ago.
http://www.nolimit-girlies.de/
From September 1 2009 Cocoon will no no longer exist.
-> Will be a Partytreff No Limit Girlies
Regards,
Big30
Do any FKK clubs have shared showers, with the girls showering together with the guys?
Golden Time in Brüggen has co-ed showers, but not co-ed locker rooms IIRC. (This was a while ago for me and I hope things haven't changed.)
What I think for Golden Time and Yin Yang is that there are showers reserved for ladies (but probably not enough ) and some of them prefer (I think just for practical reasons, not for the pleasure to have showers in the common place with the Ice bears) to take showers in the common showers room (at least, that means that it's not forbidden according to these houses' rules).
have a look at the end of this post :
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=918352&postcount=1116
Themanbehind
08-23-09, 21:06
Hello,
I've been lurking these message boards for a couple of weeks, in order to gather as much information as I can before making my first post. So that I don't appear to be a total noob ;)
Anyway, I've been thinking about visiting a FKK club in Germany this fall. Apparently the best ones seems to be in the Frankfurt area or Artemis in Berlin, is that correct?
So, which city and club should I choose? The cost for me to travel to either Berlin or Frankfurt is basically the same, so that is not an issue.
Anyway, I've been thinking about visiting a FKK club in Germany this fall. Apparently the best ones seems to be in the Frankfurt area or Artemis in Berlin, is that correct?
That is absolutely NOT correct! "The best ones" is clearly a matter of personal opinion. For me, personally, "the best ones" are located outside Frankfurt and outside Duesseldorf (the NRW clubs). Whilst Artemis in Berlin does have some positives, I stick my neck out and declare that no serious FKKer in his right mind would list Artemis in the top 5 fkk clubs in Germany. It is certainly within the top 3 most expensive clubs, though.
To my knowledge, a consensus vote would probably have a majority of voices mentioning these (in no paticular order) as their favourite FKK clubs:
Bernd's (Bonn)
Oase (FFM)
World (Giessen)
GoldenTime (M-gladbach-D'dorf)
Palace (FFM)
Living Room (D'dorf)
Maybe I miss a few others...?
Anyway, major factors to consider, again in no particular order, are:
Club Vibe
Girl Approachability
Prevalance of Couch Action
Depth of Line-up/Number of Girls on Offer
General Quality of Service Levels Encountered from Session to Session
Level of Nudity
Cost of Entrys/Session Prices/Costs of Extras
Other factors may be of secondary importance:
Accessibility of Club via Public Transport
Food Quality
Facilities
Cleanliness
This all, of course, my own personal opinion and many other experienced FKK guys, some much more experienced than myself, might indeed disagree with some/all of what i say.
Ortos
So, which city and club should I choose? The cost for me to travel to either Berlin or Frankfurt is basically the same, so that is not an issue.If your choice is either Berlin or Frankfurt, then most would advise you to choose Frankfurt.
Once you are there, you can choose between three big clubs within striking distance (Palace, Oase and World), or several smaller ones. If you use one of the maps which have been posted here, you'll see what is nearby. Your decision may also be influenced by whether you have your own transport, but excellent public transport advice is available on the various threads in any case.
If you don't have German, the big three are generally more international in flavour.
And if you do choose to stick to the bigger clubs there are ample reports on each, upon which to base your decision. Easy, huh?
Themanbehind
08-24-09, 13:23
Ok, thanks.
I sort of counted the ones outside Frankfurt (Oase, World?) as being in the Frankfurt area. I have no problem with renting a car, so if a place is located a bit outside the city center, is of secondary concern.
But all the points you bring up are of course relevant to consider. Obvisouly I want the best value for the money, just as with everything else. The fact that Artemis is among the most expensive, but not all the best FFK, is helpful to keep in mind of course.
However, I'd guess the advantage of Berlin would be that you could easily "blame" the trip on business and/or general tourism reasons, if anyone back home asks. That being said, if the FKK scene there is subpar compared to western Germany, that's the deciding factor for me.
So generally, aside from the price level, are the western clubs also beating Berlin hands down when it comes to the quality of the girls and overall facilites?
To anyone who receives German TV, on Thursday 27th Aug on RTL2, at 23:10 there Is apparently a programme about a fkk club, and a couple of business expert who come to Improve the owners club.
http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/presse.htm
Angus Magee
08-24-09, 14:19
So, which city and club should I choose? The cost for me to travel to either Berlin or Frankfurt is basically the same, so that is not an issue.
Sticking up for Berlin I would have to say it depends upon what is the main...er....thrust of your journey.
If you are after just a sex vacation and plan on spending all your time in the clubs then my esteemed colleagues are right. Best to land in Frankfurt and have the variety at your fingertips.
If you also want to enjoy some sights & cultural pursuits you might want to consider Berlin. As a city Frankfurt is pretty dry.
Artemis is big and, as noted, expensive. It is perhaps not the best place for a new comer to FKK land to have his first experience. The girls there can be unrelenting with a new comer and you really need to know a few tricks to have a good time.
If you do decide to come to Berlin get in touch and I can provide at least moral support.
Ekliges Lauern
08-24-09, 15:03
That is absolutely NOT correct! "The best ones" is clearly a matter of personal opinion. For me, personally, "the best ones" are located outside Frankfurt and outside Duesseldorf (the NRW clubs). Whilst Artemis in Berlin does have some positives, I stick my neck out and declare that no serious FKKer in his right mind would list Artemis in the top 5 fkk clubs in Germany. It is certainly within the top 3 most expensive clubs, though.
To my knowledge, a consensus vote would probably have a majority of voices mentioning these (in no paticular order) as their favourite FKK clubs:
Bernd's (Bonn)
Oase (FFM)
World (Giessen)
GoldenTime (M-gladbach-D'dorf)
Palace (FFM)
Living Room (D'dorf)
Maybe I miss a few others...?
Anyway, major factors to consider, again in no particular order, are:
Club Vibe
Girl Approachability
Prevalance of Couch Action
Depth of Line-up/Number of Girls on Offer
General Quality of Service Levels Encountered from Session to Session
Level of Nudity
Cost of Entrys/Session Prices/Costs of Extras
Other factors may be of secondary importance:
Accessibility of Club via Public Transport
Food Quality
Facilities
Cleanliness
This all, of course, my own personal opinion and many other experienced FKK guys, some much more experienced than myself, might indeed disagree with some/all of what i say.
Ortos
All quite true. The best club for me is the club I have the best time at. Lately, the M to F ratio at some of the top clubs has been causing me to downgrade a couple clubs in my own personal ratings. YMMV
My advise to the newbees is try all of the above. As preferences in clubs and women are highly personal, everyone has to come to their own landing. If you want to venture off the beaten path, I like F39 and Acapulco, but others like other clubs such as Blue Note or Samya.
What is the reputation of Colosseum among German FKK mongers? Am thinking of heading to Munich for Octoberfest this year and would like to stop at Augsburg on my way there from Frankfurt. According to google maps it is about a 3.5 hour trip by car from downtown Frankfurt.
Agree with the assessment of Artemis of not being a top-tiered club. For an 80 euro entrance fee, I expected more than what they had to offer. The culure of Berlin though beats Frankfurt by a wide margin.
Gentlemen,
While I am relatively experienced in mongering in Brazil, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the former Soviet Union I have never been to Germany before and only vaguely know the term FKK.
As it happens, I have an 7 hour layover in Frankfurt this weekend and the thought crossed my mind that since I don't ever get to Germany on business that it might be an opportunity to visit and FKK. Consider the following;
1. I have a 7 hour layover.
2. My baggage will be already be checked through to my final destination so I am traveling light.
3. I may never be back to Germany for this long.
Am I deluding myself into thinking that I can spend a few hours and drop by an FKK club for a little "refreshment" or does anyone think that I will have enough time? And if so, which club(s) should I consider knowing that I would be taking a taxi from the airport?
Any advice of suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jake
Gentlemen,
While I am relatively experienced in mongering in Brazil, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the former Soviet Union I have never been to Germany before and only vaguely know the term FKK.
As it happens, I have an 7 hour layover in Frankfurt this weekend and the thought crossed my mind that since I don't ever get to Germany on business that it might be an opportunity to visit and FKK. Consider the following;
1. I have a 7 hour layover.
2. My baggage will be already be checked through to my final destination so I am traveling light.
3. I may never be back to Germany for this long.
Am I deluding myself into thinking that I can spend a few hours and drop by an FKK club for a little "refreshment" or does anyone think that I will have enough time? And if so, which club(s) should I consider knowing that I would be taking a taxi from the airport?
Any advice of suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jake
7 hours is plenty of time. If you can stay past 7pm (it can be pretty slow in the day), I would recommend Palace since that is the closest and can be easily reached on public transport. Otherwise, go to
OASE. A taxi will run about 40E each way. Would be worth it. Public transport is also possible.
7 hours is plenty of time. If you can stay past 7pm (it can be pretty slow in the day), I would recommend Palace since that is the closest and can be easily reached on public transport. Otherwise, go to
OASE. A taxi will run about 40E each way. Would be worth it. Public transport is also possible.
I will give it a whirl!!!
Thanks again,
Jake
Gentleman Travel
08-24-09, 20:03
Hey, Jake, I did exactly the same thing last year. Check out my report...
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=790001&postcount=3239
If you are coming from the US or Canada, then probably you are arriving in FRA at some ungodly early morning hour. I think Palace does not open until 10:00 am so you have plenty of time for breakfast and even taking the public transit to Palace if you like. You can freshen up in the showers at the Palace - there is no need to hurry getting down to business.
The problem is that you will only get second-stringers during early and mid-day hours, the "A team" does not arrive until much later - at least according to song and legend, I have not experienced this myself. The previous poster says after 7:00 pm, and probably he knows better than I do, but maybe you cannot stay that late. I saw a slight improvement after noon and more talent still arriving around 4:00 pm. So the key thing is to push your departure back as late as possible in order to maximize choice and quality. My mistake was to head back to the airport too early. With a boarding pass and checked baggage I could have cut it much finer and taken advantage of the finer offereings arriving in late afternoon.
But for a first timer, even a mediocre FKK experience is something not to be missed. But I expect you have frequented similar sex supermarkets in Brazil, so maybe not so special for you. Still, in the name of cross-cultural understand you owe yourself the experience....
Enjoy!
GT
Gentlemen,
While I am relatively experienced in mongering in Brazil, Hungary, Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the former Soviet Union I have never been to Germany before and only vaguely know the term FKK.
As it happens, I have an 7 hour layover in Frankfurt this weekend and the thought crossed my mind that since I don't ever get to Germany on business that it might be an opportunity to visit and FKK. Consider the following;
1. I have a 7 hour layover.
2. My baggage will be already be checked through to my final destination so I am traveling light.
3. I may never be back to Germany for this long.
Am I deluding myself into thinking that I can spend a few hours and drop by an FKK club for a little "refreshment" or does anyone think that I will have enough time? And if so, which club(s) should I consider knowing that I would be taking a taxi from the airport?
Any advice of suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jake
Hessen Bub
08-26-09, 17:42
The problem is that you will only get second-stringers during early and mid-day hours, the "A team" does not arrive until much later - at least according to song and legend, I have not experienced this myself. The previous poster says after 7:00 pm, and probably he knows better than I do, but maybe you cannot stay that late.
Hhm, not quite true. There's quite a handful of good service providers during daytime, it all depend on what you prefer. Bee (Thai) is one of the girls with excellent reviews across all boards, and she does work day shift.
And there's more:
Saskia, Germany
Mitsu, Japan (or whatever)
Mona, Romania I have seen during the afternoon
Nicoletta, Romania
Dilara, Turkey - also spotted on early afternoon
Sure line up does get better the later it is and Palace is a "night club", but if you have time - arrive early, take your time, do some wellness, have some (excellent) breakfast.
HB
Ekliges Lauern
08-27-09, 01:11
Hhm, not quite true. There's quite a handful of good service providers during daytime, it all depend on what you prefer. Bee (Thai) is one of the girls with excellent reviews across all boards, and she does work day shift.
And there's more:
Saskia, Germany
Mitsu, Japan (or whatever)
Mona, Romania I have seen during the afternoon
Nicoletta, Romania
Dilara, Turkey - also spotted on early afternoon
Sure line up does get better the later it is and Palace is a "night club", but if you have time - arrive early, take your time, do some wellness, have some (excellent) breakfast.
HB
Fully agree. I had three great days in Palace at the beginning of July and as I remember I arrived at about 2PM. As I remember, out of about 10 girls, about half were repeat material for me.
I'll add to HB's list:
Gulchen - Turky
Julia - Ukraine or Russia
Palace during the day has a very relaxed vibe. Check it out.
I have been to few FKKs over the years and even posted reviews about them (Palace, Oase, Artemis, GT and World). I don't believe I have been to a Sauna club. I tried searching the forum and I got bits and pieces but I am not sure if I fully understand the difference between an FKK. Are the girls partly covered at sauna club? is that it? do they have rooms like FKK? BBBJ standard like in FKK?
I am taking couple of my first time friends on a "tour" of Germany. One of them strongly prefers to go where the girls are partly covered. For him, it makes him feel like he is having sex with a stripper (as in American strip clubs).
Thank you much.
The last time (2 yrs ago) I was able to leave Palace, Artemis and World and have dinner at a nice restaurant and come back in an hour or two. They wrote a signed note on a piece of paper that I was supposed to bring back. Is that policy still going on? How long do we have once we leave these places and still get back in without a fee? Any place that would not allow you back in?
Thank you again.
Vito Corleone
08-27-09, 06:36
The last time (2 yrs ago) I was able to leave Palace, Artemis and World and have dinner at a nice restaurant and come back in an hour or two. They wrote a signed note on a piece of paper that I was supposed to bring back. Is that policy still going on? How long do we have once we leave these places and still get back in without a fee? Any place that would not allow you back in?
Thank you again.
Oase will also give you a piece of paper to return later. Not sure if there is a return time limit. As far as I know this policy has not changed @ Palace, Artemis & World.
Hessen Bub
08-27-09, 08:01
Are the girls partly covered at sauna club? is that it? do they have rooms like FKK? BBBJ standard like in FKK?
Yep. That's the only difference, the girls do wear lingerie.
HB
Yep. That's the only difference, the girls do wear lingerie.
HB
Not the only difference professor, with all due respect. Entry fee is 50 in the most popular sauna clubs as opposed to 65 or more (eg Artemis) in FKKs. The second 30 minutes is only 25 euros in sauna clubs, at least it is supposed to be but many girls now charge 50, as opposed to 50 in FKK. And CIM and anal are also cheaper in sauna clubs. And many sauna clubs serve unlimited beer and wine included in the entry while at FKK's you buys yer beers and booze. Other than that, the two types of clubs are the same.
Hessen Bub
08-28-09, 11:43
Not the only difference professor, with all due respect. Entry fee is 50 in the most popular sauna clubs as opposed to 65 or more (eg Artemis) in FKKs. The second 30 minutes is only 25 euros in sauna clubs, at least it is supposed to be but many girls now charge 50, as opposed to 50 in FKK. And CIM and anal are also cheaper in sauna clubs. And many sauna clubs serve unlimited beer and wine included in the entry while at FKK's you buys yer beers and booze. Other than that, the two types of clubs are the same.
Yeah, right, but he was asking about rooms, covered girls and uncovered blowjobs.
HB
P.S.: Beer at FKKWorld is free ;)
7 hours is plenty of time. If you can stay past 7pm (it can be pretty slow in the day), I would recommend Palace since that is the closest and can be easily reached on public transport. Otherwise, go to
OASE. A taxi will run about 40E each way. Would be worth it. Public transport is also possible.
What's the going rate for girls "services" these days at Palace? Unfortunately I am going to be there on a Monday morning so I will probably be looking at the "B" team. Hey, better than nothing I suppose.
What's the going rate for girls "services" these days at Palace? Unfortunately I am going to be there on a Monday morning so I will probably be looking at the "B" team. Hey, better than nothing I suppose.
50E for each 30 minutes. CIM is 50 extra. Some girls charge 50 for kissing or DATY, but that depends on the girl. Palace has much less fixed pricing that the other clubs. Screening girls is an art that has been discussed here many times.
50E for each 30 minutes. CIM is 50 extra. Some girls charge 50 for kissing or DATY, but that depends on the girl. Palace has much less fixed pricing that the other clubs. Screening girls is an art that has been discussed here many times.
Thanks for the info.
I have plenty of experience at "screening" in Brazil and Russia so I know what you are referring to!
Not the only difference professor, with all due respect. Entry fee is 50 in the most popular sauna clubs as opposed to 65 or more (eg Artemis) in FKKs. The second 30 minutes is only 25 euros in sauna clubs, at least it is supposed to be but many girls now charge 50, as opposed to 50 in FKK. And CIM and anal are also cheaper in sauna clubs. And many sauna clubs serve unlimited beer and wine included in the entry while at FKK's you buys yer beers and booze. Other than that, the two types of clubs are the same.
Thank you Beffen1 and Hessen Bub. Now look for my reports in a few weeks.
P.S.: Beer at FKKWorld is free ;)
Somebody told me that free beer at World was non alcoholic. As I am driving, I am not that fancy to drink but I tried as it is supposed to be alcohol free. But it seems to me being normal German draft Pils, with standart alcohol level. Do you have any info on that?
The free beer that you will find at the self service fridges of Golden Time and Living Room are delicious light beers. But still I don't exagurate that much while driving. I heard that German police is not tolerant on that subject and the fines starts from 400 bucks.
Hessen Bub
08-29-09, 08:39
But it seems to me being normal German draft Pils, with standart alcohol level.
That's exaclty what it is. Licher or Binding or whatever, don't know.
HB
AColonizer
09-07-09, 13:04
Hi guys!
I read interesting things in this thread but there is a lack of information about real prices payed by mongers here. Also pricelists in FKK sites are not detailed.
Can you write prices and services that you usually pay in FKK?
For example, when I find a nice under 23 years-old woman, how much is:
- Two hours all inclusive sex, deepthroat swallow blowjob+pussy fucking+ass fucking?
- Overnight all-inclusive sex?
Generally speaking you will pay €50 per half hour with a girl, this will not include swallow or any type of ass play (her ass!).
Some clubs up north (GoldenTime) will charge €75 per hour (but this can be girl dependant).
CIM can cost anything from €25 euros extra, up to €50 (in fairness €50 can be nearer to the norm).
Ass fucking can cost anything from €50 to €150 extra. Again the less expensive price tends to be up north.
I have not heard of girls in FKKs doing overnights, but others may know otherwise.
The above information is general in nature and based on experience in the bigger FKK clubs. Different prices may be available in smaller establishments and more out of the way places. A first post from one who knows! Hope this helps.
For example, when I find a nice under 23 years-old woman, how much is:
- Two hours all inclusive sex, deepthroat swallow blowjob+pussy fucking+ass fucking?
- Overnight all-inclusive sex?
Hi guys!
I read interesting things in this thread but there is a lack of information about real prices payed by mongers here. Also pricelists in FKK sites are not detailed.
Can you write prices and services that you usually pay in FKK?
For example, when I find a nice under 23 years-old woman, how much is:
- Two hours all inclusive sex, deepthroat swallow blowjob+pussy fucking+ass fucking?
- Overnight all-inclusive sex?
For your two hours program, you should be able to negotiate it down to about 150 euros. Just dont let go until they give in. throw in a extra 25 euro and she will let you take a crap in her shoes.
For your two hours program, you should be able to negotiate it down to about 150 euros. Just dont let go until they give in. throw in a extra 25 euro and she will let you take a crap in her shoes.Hi,
Can anyone recommend an FKK(s) not too far (e.g. 30-min drive) from the Heidelberg area?
Thanks
Guys,
I'm planning a trip to one of the clubs. Any opinions on the best club for a complete noob who doesn't speak any English. Money isn't really an issue just want to get the nest bang for my buck.
If you wanted an FKK girl for the night then discuss it with the girl. Strictly speaking the management should have no part in the arrangement as they are running an FKK club not an escort agency.
If you think you are going to get all night sex on the cheap because it is an FKK girl then I wish you luck. Some may agree, depends on how well they know and trust you, most I suspect would say no.
Some clubs used to arrange overnights with the girls but it cost a minimum of 1,000 Euros a night. Such as Bernd's and what is now Salon Rouge. The club took 50% of the deal.
But as everybody here is going to FKK clubs because the sex is cheap and plentiful I can't see anyone forking out over a thousand for a one night stand. And that figure is the going rate at escort agencies around Frankfurt and othe big cities.
There are very good women who will do it for 600 euros a night, but these advertise on private German sites and you need to know where to look. But as that is equal to 12 fucks in a club, why are you even thinking about an overnight?
AColonizer
09-11-09, 14:20
All sex is not just a pussy fuck. All sex is more than we see in a porn film. Therefore to pay 600 euros could be interesting only if there are very high level sex performances by a model-type girl.
This is my experience with some Hungarians and Ukrainians working (and worked) in Italy.
However I want to underline it is hard to find a young, beautiful and piggy girl for cheap and it is usually necessary to go to unknown places. In my opinion, FKK is a good solution but not the cheapest.
Moreover the most important problem is about the quality of service. In my opinion, I am satisfied only if a girl makes a good deepthroat swallow blowjob.
If you wanted an FKK girl for the night then discuss it with the girl. Strictly speaking the management should have no part in the arrangement as they are running an FKK club not an escort agency.
If you think you are going to get all night sex on the cheap because it is an FKK girl then I wish you luck. Some may agree, depends on how well they know and trust you, most I suspect would say no.
Some clubs used to arrange overnights with the girls but it cost a minimum of 1,000 Euros a night. Such as Bernd's and what is now Salon Rouge. The club took 50% of the deal.
But as everybody here is going to FKK clubs because the sex is cheap and plentiful I can't see anyone forking out over a thousand for a one night stand. And that figure is the going rate at escort agencies around Frankfurt and othe big cities.
There are very good women who will do it for 600 euros a night, but these advertise on private German sites and you need to know where to look. But as that is equal to 12 fucks in a club, why are you even thinking about an overnight?
Gents,
I am relegated to spending the rest of the month in Scherwin area. I just thought I would ask if anyone has a good recommendation for a FKK or sauna in the area. I checked the ISaw map and there are a couple in Berlin and Hamburg, but if I am going to rent a car I would most like head towards Dussledorf area or the NW. I enjoy the smaller clubs as well, so bigger is not always better!!
Thanks in advance for the info, and I will be sure to report back.
Sky
Hessen Bub
09-13-09, 17:50
Scherwin area.
Had to read this twice. If you're talking SCHWERIN, then go to Berlin. Artemis.
HB
This will be my first time in Germany. I am trying to figure out if the last week of November of the first week of December is worth making the trip, or should i just wait untill sometime next year.
I am also considering visiting Budapest and Romania. Any advice would be appreciated.
Rufus T Firefly
09-14-09, 04:37
Gents,
I am relegated to spending the rest of the month in Scherwin area. I just thought I would ask if anyone has a good recommendation for a FKK or sauna in the area. I checked the ISaw map and there are a couple in Berlin and Hamburg, but if I am going to rent a car I would most like head towards Dussledorf area or the NW. I enjoy the smaller clubs as well, so bigger is not always better!!
Hamburg would be the closest and it's less than an hour away by fast train from Hbf to Hbf.
Düsseldorf is about a five hour trip using the fastest trains (ICE)
Interestingly, the slowest trains actually get you to Berlin faster than the ICE, just about 2 1/4 hours.
Use the low stress method and take the train. Try some itineraries here...
www.bahn.de
Enjoy Schwerin. The Schloss there and the nearby Ducal palace in Lugwiglust (30 minute train ride from Schwerin) are on my list of places to visit.
Rufus
Hello,
It looks like I am finally going to make it to Germany and enjoy FKKs.
My German is rusty, haven't spoken it for 20+ yeras.
I searched the site to find a post of common German expressions related to the hobby. I can not locate any. DO you guys have a link that can help? Thx
John Moore
09-15-09, 17:17
Hello,
It looks like I am finally going to make it to Germany and enjoy FKKs.
My German is rusty, haven't spoken it for 20+ yeras.
I searched the site to find a post of common German expressions related to the hobby. I can not locate any. DO you guys have a link that can help? ThxI would also very much appreciate this. An example is in the FKK clubs where all the girls starts with: "Wie getz?" (spelling?) I know it means like "Whats Up?" but how do I reply to it in german? Like: "Not Much" or "I'm good and you?"
Rufus T Firefly
09-16-09, 06:47
I searched the site to find a post of common German expressions related to the hobby. I can not locate any. DO you guys have a link that can help? Thx
The search function for the site doesn't make it very easy to find since it only finds threads and not specific posts. There have been a couple of posts in the last 2-3 years which listed German language sex terms and the English equivalents. These posts were among the Germany threads.
I would also very much appreciate this. An example is in the FKK clubs where all the girls starts with: "Wie getz?" (spelling?) I know it means like "Whats Up?" but how do I reply to it in german? Like: "Not Much" or "I'm good and you?"
Wie gehts - think of it as "how's it going (for you)." It's a casual/informal inquiry. Compare to the formal...
Wie geht es Ihnen ? Almost literally "How goes it for you ?"
For both questions, the easy answer is "Gut !" (good). If you're feeling really great about things you can say "Sehr gut ! (very good)
I highly recommend a visit to a decent bookstore (Borders, Barnes and Noble, etc). Visit the reference or language sections for basic books on the German language, and recordings of basic conversation. Another option is the public library. Many have collections of books and CDs for language learning. I find it useful to both read and hear words, but that's my learning style. Taking a course at a local college helps but that's not for everyone. It can be difficult to find the time but, if you're motivated to do it, it can make a big difference with a good instructor. I found completing second year German really made a big difference in understanding.
Far from Fluent Rufus
Rufus T Firefly
09-16-09, 06:54
I highly recommend a visit to a decent bookstore (Borders, Barnes and Noble, etc)...
I also want to point out that a lot of guidebooks include a basic language glossary.
Rufus
The search function for the site doesn't make it very easy to find since it only finds threads and not specific posts.... Not quite true. You have to select "show results as reports" instead of the default "show results as threads".
John Moore
09-16-09, 15:14
The search function for the site doesn't make it very easy to find since it only finds threads and not specific posts. There have been a couple of posts in the last 2-3 years which listed German language sex terms and the English equivalents. These posts were among the Germany threads.
Wie gehts - think of it as "how's it going (for you)." It's a casual/informal inquiry. Compare to the formal...
Wie geht es Ihnen ? Almost literally "How goes it for you ?"
For both questions, the easy answer is "Gut !" (good). If you're feeling really great about things you can say "Sehr gut ! (very good)
I highly recommend a visit to a decent bookstore (Borders, Barnes and Noble, etc). Visit the reference or language sections for basic books on the German language, and recordings of basic conversation. Another option is the public library. Many have collections of books and CDs for language learning. I find it useful to both read and hear words, but that's my learning style. Taking a course at a local college helps but that's not for everyone. It can be difficult to find the time but, if you're motivated to do it, it can make a big difference with a good instructor. I found completing second year German really made a big difference in understanding.
Far from Fluent RufusThanks Rufus, I have a german dictionary somewhere, but as you say it's so much easier to have a book or tape with full sentences to learn from.
Ok, I got the "gut!" but if you want to return the question like "Good and how are you?"?
Rufus T Firefly
09-16-09, 23:02
Not quite true. You have to select "show results as reports" instead of the default "show results as threads".
Danke sehr. Somehow I missed that setting and it makes for better results.
Here are some postings which listed and discussed some German language sex terms.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=675184&highlight=total#post675184
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=514234&highlight=total#post514234
Common abbreviations on German websites
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=349495&highlight=franz%F6sich#post349495
Rufus
Rufus T Firefly
09-16-09, 23:25
Thanks Rufus, I have a german dictionary somewhere, but as you say it's so much easier to have a book or tape with full sentences to learn from.
If that works for you. It depends on your learning style. For me, a mix often makes the connections easier or faster.
Ok, I got the "gut!" but if you want to return the question like "Good and how are you?"?
You could do this:
She: Wie gehts ?
You: Gut, und du ? (good, and you ? using the familiar form of you
I'd probably use the formal form, Sie, with the manager. (what say others here ?)
I'm feeling a bit self-conscious. I'm far from an expert and there are people here who are much better with the language than I am. Besides the resources I mentioned earlier, let me recommend some good language learning sites on the web which will cost you nothing but the time and effort you put into it.
Deutsche Welle (the German external broadcaster)
DW has online courses for the German language and at least one of them, Deutsch – warum nicht?, can be received as a podcast. See the "German Courses" links on the left side of the DW home page.
http://www.dw-world.de/
BBC
The BBC has excellent resources for learning German. I recommend the section "Deutsch Plus" which requires RealPlayer. You can follow the experiences of a non-German speaker as he learns the language in real social settings in this video series.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/german/
Finally, I recommend you buy a basic paperbook on German grammar and usage which you can find in a bookstore.
Rufus
John Moore
09-17-09, 14:52
If that works for you. It depends on your learning style. For me, a mix often makes the connections easier or faster.
You could do this:
She: Wie gehts?
You: Gut, und du? (good, and you? Using the familiar form of you.
I'd probably use the formal form, Sie, with the manager. (what say others here? )
I'm feeling a bit self-conscious. I'm far from an expert and there are people here who are much better with the language than I am. Besides the resources I mentioned earlier, let me recommend some good language learning sites on the web which will cost you nothing but the time and effort you put into it.
Deutsche Welle (the German external broadcaster)
DW has online courses for the German language and at least one of them, Deutsch – warum nicht? , can be received as a podcast. See the "German Courses" links on the left side of the DW home page.
http://www.dw-world.de/
BBC
The BBC has excellent resources for learning German. I recommend the section "Deutsch Plus" which requires RealPlayer. You can follow the experiences of a non-German speaker as he learns the language in real social settings in this video series.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/german/
Finally, I recommend you buy a basic paperbook on German grammar and usage which you can find in a bookstore.
RufusThanks for all the help Rufus. And I think you're right, it's time to buy a german grammar book.
Rufus T Firefly
09-17-09, 23:22
this will be my first time in germany. i am trying to figure out if the last week of november of the first week of december is worth making the trip, or should i just wait untill sometime next year.
any time is a great time to visit germany. by the first week of december the advent/christmas fairs have started in the larger cities and will typically end a day or two before christmas. some start the last week in november. the fair is called weihnachtmarkt or christkindlmarkt depending on the local tradition. smaller towns' fairs are often just a few days long or on weekends. just a warning that as december 25 approaches some hotels/pensions actually close down and the occupants of the rlds and fkks also rep001ter home or to warmer climes for the holiday slow period. that said, all the facilities and services you may be interested in will be open and active all of november and the first two weeks of december.
if your name on this board is indicative of your current physical location, you might find germany a bit cold in december and you'll need to bring appropriate clothing. i suggest a layered approach even for your coat. i found a gore-tex rain parka with a zip-in fleece liner was a good combination. windproof, easy to configure and not too bulky. even then, there were times like berlin at night in mid-december, when i felt very cold. don't forget a hat and gloves. drinking hot glühwein or hexenpunsch at the fairs will either warm you up or, after a couple of mugs, you just won't care anymore.
some say the christkindlmarkt in nürnberg is the best of the fairs. i've been there but i have many other christmas fairs to visit before i can give a definitive decision. there's a lot of heidelbeer glühwein to sample. (smile)
i am also considering visiting budapest and romania. any advice would be appreciated.
if you're planning only a week for your trip, i think germany would fill it as would a trip to either budapest or romania. it depends on how frenetic a pace you can bear and how much you're want to take in at each destination. if you really have only a week or so, i'd choose one region in germany or either budapest or romania, and not try to squeeze too much into a short period of time. i'd direct questions about budapest and romania to the appropriate sections on this board.
i'm excited about your first trip to germany. have fun and report back.
rufus
Gents,
What's the best way to get Euros when you arrive in Frankfurt?
I was thinking that there must be ATMs in this airport. So, I was planning to use my American ATM card that I know works overseas to get some EUros.
I will, of course, have cash $ as backup just in case.
So, what do you think, will the ATM idea work out?
Thx
Rufus T Firefly
09-19-09, 08:23
Gents,
What's the best way to get Euros when you arrive in Frankfurt?
I was thinking that there must be ATMs in this airport. So, I was planning to use my American ATM card that I know works overseas to get some EUros.
I will, of course, have cash $ as backup just in case.
So, what do you think, will the ATM idea work out?
Yes, ATMs are the way to go. A couple of trips ago I was a little nervous about showing up without Euros in my pocket - in the rush to prepare for the trip I had difficulty getting to an local currency exchange office. In reality, it was nothing to worry about. After clearing passport and customs control, I immediately walked over to an ATM in the Frankfurt Airport and used my debit card to obtain cash. It worked out great.
Some thoughts on the subject:
- Make sure you have enough funds are in your checking account. I don't believe there was a choice of selecting a savings account or being able to transfer funds around
- Make sure your PIN is only 4 digits and only numbers.
- Though I didn't study the subject closely, I think the rates and fees might
be better at Bank ATMs as opposed to other Geldautomat machines.
- Tell the issuer of your debit/ATM card that you will be using it in Europe and tell them which countries. Many issuers get concerned when the card gets used in new or unusual places. (I had to use my debit card once in a South American country and the bank contacted my home address to find out what was going on. Luckily the people there vouched for me and the transaction). Ditto for your credit cards. They asked "what countries" and I essentially listed every country I planned to visit plus a couple of other possibilities.
- Ask your issuer of the card what the monetary limits are for withdrawing funds during the trip. There will be a maximum amount per day. Good to know this.
- It doesn't hurt to have some US currency but I wouldn't take a lot. Maybe $100 max. The currency exchange offices are the worst places to change money. If you have to do currency exchange, use a bank.
- Use a debit card and not your credit card to get cash.
- When your trip is done, reserve some Euros for the next trip. That's just in case an ATM at the airport is broken and you still need to purchase a train ticket to get to the center of town. I wouldn't get all nervous about this since there is sure to be more than one ATM there but the cash gives you more flexibility for your next adventure.
Have a great trip.
Rufus
Hessen Bub
09-19-09, 10:34
She: Wie gehts ?
You: Gut, und du ? (good, and you ? using the familiar form of you
I'd probably use the formal form, Sie, with the manager.
Correct reply would be: "Gut, danke, und Dir?" (not Du). And yes, with the girls (and for me also with the guests, unless they are a lot older than me) it is "Du" and with people you are not friends with and in business relations it is "Sie".
HB
Yes, ATMs are the way to go. A couple of trips ago I was a little nervous about showing up without Euros in my pocket - in the rush to prepare for the trip I had difficulty getting to an local currency exchange office. In reality, it was nothing to worry about. After clearing passport and customs control, I immediately walked over to an ATM in the Frankfurt Airport and used my debit card to obtain cash. It worked out great.
Some thoughts on the subject:
- Make sure you have enough funds are in your checking account. I don't believe there was a choice of selecting a savings account or being able to transfer funds around
- Make sure your PIN is only 4 digits and only numbers.
- Though I didn't study the subject closely, I think the rates and fees might
be better at Bank ATMs as opposed to other Geldautomat machines.
- Tell the issuer of your debit/ATM card that you will be using it in Europe and tell them which countries. Many issuers get concerned when the card gets used in new or unusual places. (I had to use my debit card once in a South American country and the bank contacted my home address to find out what was going on. Luckily the people there vouched for me and the transaction). Ditto for your credit cards. They asked "what countries" and I essentially listed every country I planned to visit plus a couple of other possibilities.
- Ask your issuer of the card what the monetary limits are for withdrawing funds during the trip. There will be a maximum amount per day. Good to know this.
- It doesn't hurt to have some US currency but I wouldn't take a lot. Maybe $100 max. The currency exchange offices are the worst places to change money. If you have to do currency exchange, use a bank.
- Use a debit card and not your credit card to get cash.
- When your trip is done, reserve some Euros for the next trip. That's just in case an ATM at the airport is broken and you still need to purchase a train ticket to get to the center of town. I wouldn't get all nervous about this since there is sure to be more than one ATM there but the cash gives you more flexibility for your next adventure.
Have a great trip.
RufusExcellent advise Rufus.
But my 2 cents
Always bring money or American Express Travelers Checks
I am the one that, " if it can go wrong, it will "
Make sure your hotel has a safe, and you can sleep easily knowing that you have more than one source of cash.
Best Regards
Smuler
Rufus T Firefly
09-19-09, 15:09
Correct reply would be: "Gut, danke, und Dir?" (not Du). And yes, with the girls (and for me also with the guests, unless they are a lot older than me) it is "Du" and with people you are not friends with and in business relations it is "Sie".
HB, thanks for correcting me. Yes, it's "dir" ("for you") in that exchange. We're using the dative case but for us non-native speakers it's probably best to just memorize the expression than think about why. "Gut, danke, und Dir ?"
thanks again.
Rufus
(always learning)
John Moore
09-19-09, 17:47
HB, thanks for correcting me. Yes, it's "dir" ("for you") in that exchange. We're using the dative case but for us non-native speakers it's probably best to just memorize the expression than think about why. "Gut, danke, und Dir ?"
thanks again.
Rufus
(always learning)Ok, so now I'm a bit confused. What should I say to the girls "du oder dir"?
Rufus T Firefly
09-20-09, 08:57
Excellent advise Rufus.
But my 2 cents
Always bring money or American Express Travelers Checks
I am the one that, " if it can go wrong, it will "
Make sure your hotel has a safe, and you can sleep easily knowing that you have more than one source of cash.
Smuler,
Good points.
I say, whatever makes you feel secure.
I used to travel with travelers checks in the local currency but I found that restaurants, small hotels, and local businesses would not accept them or grudgingly if they didn't have a choice. The local bank and the issuer take fees the small business can't afford to give up. The alternative is to take the TCs to a bank or currency exchange to cash or change for the local currency. I haven't used travelers checks on a european trip in about 20 years.
IMHO, bringing a significant amount of USD used to make sense on a wide-ranging European trip before the Euro. You could easy manage how much local currency to buy by drawing on your pool of USD. Today, having mostly USD in the Euro zone means having to change money and standing in line either at a bank or currency exchange office. You can't use USD at local restaurants or businesses. Maybe 5 star and intercontinental hotels might accept USD but you'll pay a premium for the convenience. I'm not a member of that set and I'm not interested in using my time in exchanging currency. Besides, the ATM typically offers the better exchange rates and the're available nights, weekends, and holidays.
ATMs have transformed life in the US and Europe. Unless you habitually keep thousands of dollars in cash at home or in your possession, you can manage your cash needs during european travel much like during your daily life in the US. I agree it is a good idea to keep a reserve.
You can find safes in business class hotels. I'm not sure about family-run hotels and pensions.
It's a good idea to split your cash to various locations around your body and among your possessions. You can use moneybelts and wear security pouches under your clothing which go around your waist, or hang over your shoulder to the opposite side of your body under your shirts.
Being aware of security is a good thing.
Rufus
Rufus T Firefly
09-20-09, 09:01
Ok, so now I'm a bit confused. What should I say to the girls "du oder dir"?
They ask:
How are you ?
familiar/casual Wie gehts ?
[How goes it ?] The 'for you' is assumed
You reply:
familiar: Gut, danke, und dir ?
[Good, thank you, and (for) you ?]
Again, it might be best to be able to recognize the question and memorize the reply.
If you need an explanation of "why", it might be best at this point to look at a basic book on German and consult the chart on personal pronouns and grammatical cases. Above, "es" (it) is the subject and you is the indirect object. It's actually the same in English when we casually say "How's it going ?". If "you" (familiar) was the subject, then 'du' is used. Du arbeitest (you work). Du trinkst (you drink). Singst du ? (Do you sing?). I hope I didn't just confuse things for you.
I'd say it's time to open that first year German text and view the video on the web sites I referred to.
Rufus
Hessen Bub
09-20-09, 09:01
Ok, so now I'm a bit confused. What should I say to the girls "du oder dir"?
Depends on what you wanna say:
What's your name? - Wie heißt Du?
How are you? - Wie geht es Dir?
Where do you come from? - Woher kommst Du?
How old are you? - Wie alt bist Du?
Can I fuck your ass? - Darf ich Dich in den Arsch ficken?
Do you do CIM? - Machst Du Aufnahme? Darf ich Dir in den Mund spritzen?
HB
Basketcase
09-20-09, 12:06
Through the eighties when I travelled I used to put extra cash on my credit card and take travellers cheques and small amounts of foreign currency to get me going in each coutry I planned to visit. As I was in credit on my credit card I could draw on cash like an debit card does today. I think back then, not all debit cards were linked up internationally like credit cards so this was the concept on how to create a debit card from a credit card. You got international rates and the fees were lighter than say using a bureau of exchange. I found the travellers cheques were a pain as you were always on the look out for a bank that dealt with international customers or a specialist bureau de change.
The other benefit of putting cash credit on your credit card is that if you are travelling for extended time you would not miss any credit ard payment since you are not at home making payments to your credit card since the card was in cash credit.
When it came to the nineties I would usually take foreign cash obtained from home and my debit card to be used in ATMs. I would also take my credit card with cash put on it since it gave me flexibility if my home debit card did not work since the international network for debit cards was not as full as it is for credit cards. Travellers cheques were out the window as not friendly to use and not readily exchangeable as Rufus T Firefly says.
Now come the noughties, I exclusively use my debit card for cash withdrawals everywhere I go in Asia, Australasia, Europe, Middle East and the Americas. I must admit I have not done it in Africa as I the last time I went to Africa was in the nineties and I took cash and credit card only. Up until a several months ago my bank absorbed all the bank fees and foreign exchange fees on cash withdrawals worldwide. Now my banks charges 0.84% fee on each withdrawal for currency outside of Europe which is the standard visa foreign exchange fee. In Europe there are no fees still I think since when I look at the FX market rate on the wires and then my bank statement for the FX rate I see that they are pretty much in line. For example, to show the different at present the EUR rate is €1.12 per unit of my currency and the local bureau de change says €1.05 per unit so you can see that over time you save a bit of cash.
Hope this helps give reassurance that ATMs can work. Just make sure that you have a four digit PIN number that is numerically based.
John Moore
09-20-09, 12:19
Danke Rufus unt danke HB.
Will be doing my german homework for my upcoming class in FKK Oase.
Cheers!
Rufus T Firefly
09-20-09, 17:20
Depends on what you wanna say:
What's your name? - Wie heißt Du?
(usw)
Great list of useful social and sexual phrases.
Rufus
OK guys need some info on the Dusseldorf area.
I will be going there on business these next four/ five weeks Monday to Friday on business, what FKK / FKK's should I head to? and what should I avoid?
I will have transport so as long as its within an short drive of Dusseldorf/ Duisburg it will work for me....
Thanks in advance...........
Love Palace
09-21-09, 08:58
OK guys need some info on the Dusseldorf area.
I will be going there on business these next four/ five weeks Monday to Friday on business, what FKK / FKK's should I head to? and what should I avoid?
I will have transport so as long as its within an short drive of Dusseldorf/ Duisburg it will work for me....
Thanks in advance...........See Golden Time-Living Room
Hessen Bub
09-21-09, 19:04
within an short drive of Dusseldorf/ Duisburg it will work for me....
Either Living Room (about 15km from D'dorf) or Golden Time (about 50km from D'dorf).
HB
I second the GT recommendation. Had an absolute blast there last year, met some fellow ISG'ers, and had some mind blowing sessions there.
I cant wait to go back this year!
Buddy... best place to go is GoldenTime.
Next best is LivingRoom.
Enjoy!
CD
OK... what FKK / FKK's should I head to? ... within a short drive of Dusseldorf/ Duisburg....Thanks in advance...........
Keithrennick
09-23-09, 08:43
Was wondering what you guys think on this:
Suppose one were to visit FKK's and that too, good ones in Germany like LR, GT, DVita, etc. And indulge in nothing except for CBJ and CFS. No DFK either, No DATY, nothing. Except for those two.
Then what would you guys think the chances of contracting HIV are?
Do they serve beer? and or spirits? and what's the food like?
Odd questions i know but... my plan is to park myself nightly there instead of sitting in hotel room bored.
And last question for now what's the best time to go? early or late evening?
I have been to palace etc so know the normal fKK routine, but need to know what differences if any there are between these FKK's and the Frankfurt ones?
Travelerb69
09-23-09, 11:40
I understand you are talking about Golden Time, but the info is valid for both GT and Living room.Beer is for free, you can either pick it up yourself at the freezers, but those are very light beer, almost non-alchoholic ones or you can also order at the bar for stronger(or normal) beers. As far as I know spirits are not available for free
Food has been pretty good at GT, but beware they run out of part of it it sometimes.
Breakfast is from 11-15, cake at 15, dinner something like 17:30-19:30. Pizza at 10:00 pm, but it(just the pizza) lasts for not more than 5 or ten minutes, make sure you plan your sessions accordingly.LR has pizza at 11:00 pm.
About spendig the night there, you were spoiled by the Hessen clubs, GT closes at 1:00 am, LR at 3:00 am. Possible to do GT and when you leave ask for a voucher discount which enables you to pay 25 euros at Living Room but it has to be in the same day. Also possible the other way around(LR and GT)but not convenient since LR closes later.
Gt gets very crowded after 18:00, better get there early, LR on the other hand does not.They are not technically FKKS, are sauna clubs, girls are wearing some clothes, generally bikinis or underwear.
Hope that helps.
Do they serve beer? and or spirits? and what's the food like?
Odd questions i know but... my plan is to park myself nightly there instead of sitting in hotel room bored.
And last question for now what's the best time to go? early or late evening?
I have been to palace etc so know the normal fKK routine, but need to know what differences if any there are between these FKK's and the Frankfurt ones?
Yawn! Life's to short to be figuring out this kinda dumbass crap!
Just stay at home, no risk!
CD
Was wondering what you guys think on this:
Suppose one were to visit FKK's and that too, good ones in Germany like LR, GT, DVita, etc. And indulge in nothing except for CBJ and CFS. No DFK either, No DATY, nothing. Except for those two.
Then what would you guys think the chances of contracting HIV are?
Was wondering what you guys think on this:
Suppose one were to visit FKK's and that too, good ones in Germany like LR, GT, DVita, etc. And indulge in nothing except for CBJ and CFS. No DFK either, No DATY, nothing. Except for those two.
Then what would you guys think the chances of contracting HIV are?I think you should continue masturbating, 100% safe.
Rufus T Firefly
09-25-09, 04:00
Was wondering what you guys think on this:
Suppose one were to visit FKK's and that too, good ones in Germany like LR, GT, DVita, etc. And indulge in nothing except for CBJ and CFS. No DFK either, No DATY, nothing. Except for those two.
Then what would you guys think the chances of contracting HIV are?
You can't be too safe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFC0O393DQ
Rufus
Love Palace
09-25-09, 23:48
Was wondering what you guys think on this:
Suppose one were to visit FKK's and that too, good ones in Germany like LR, GT, DVita, etc. And indulge in nothing except for CBJ and CFS. No DFK either, No DATY, nothing. Except for those two.
Then what would you guys think the chances of contracting HIV are?Be careful, you can get sick from worring too much.
Angus Magee
09-30-09, 17:11
Talking with Firewalkwithme last night at Artemis he mentioned a new FKK opening in the outskirts of Berlin-FKK Aphrodite.
This morning I looked it up on the web and found this.
http://www.fkk-aphrodite.de/?lang=eng
Opening soon? Not much info on the site except where it is and what the rooms look like. And to tell the truth it looks a bit cheap to me. Nothing like the over done themes of Artemis' decorators. And maybe the photos are just mock ups to show us sort of what it will be like.
If it is true then it should be a good thing if it can compete favorably with Artemis which has been the only choice in Berlin for too long.
Unfortunately the location is also not quite so convenient and close to the action in Berlin.
If anyone else has any info on this I would love to hear it.
AM
Hello Gents,
When I learned the German I still remember from long ago in a land far away, I recall that we were discouraged from "duzen".
The theory was this. German is hard enough to learn anyway. If we got ourselves into any "duzen" situations, chances are we would also be immersed and the rest of it would flow naturally.
Consequently, everything was "Sie". We were taught to be polite and a little more formal and standoffish.
It appears that the FKK's are "duzen city". I guess it you get that close to the girls (or plan to), it is expected that a gent will use the more informal and intimate "du" when conversing with the ladies.
In my few visits a few years ago, I stuck with Sie because that it what I know (and I use "know" loosely).
Is sticking with the Sie form of address reasonable in a FKK? Do they even care?
Shoot. Some of the time I was better off muddling through in English because the lady's German was almost as bad as mine, and she had enough education in English that it worked better anyway. I started to think that addressing a lady in English might be an easier way to smoke out a lady that was relatively new, might not have loaded up on German regulars, or might not be a native German (a type that some of you gents recommend avoiding).
Mrknowitall
10-01-09, 03:32
HB, thanks for correcting me. Yes, it's "dir" ("for you") in that exchange. We're using the dative case but for us non-native speakers it's probably best to just memorize the expression than think about why. "Gut, danke, und Dir ?"
thanks again.
Rufus
(always learning)Easy!
"Du" is Nominative
"Dich" is Akkusitive
"Dir" is Dative
Hello Gents,
When I learned the German I still remember from long ago in a land far away, I recall that we were discouraged from "duzen".
The theory was this. German is hard enough to learn anyway. If we got ourselves into any "duzen" situations, chances are we would also be immersed and the rest of it would flow naturally.
Consequently, everything was "Sie". We were taught to be polite and a little more formal and standoffish.
It appears that the FKK's are "duzen city". I guess it you get that close to the girls (or plan to), it is expected that a gent will use the more informal and intimate "du" when conversing with the ladies.
In my few visits a few years ago, I stuck with Sie because that it what I know (and I use "know" loosely).
Is sticking with the Sie form of address reasonable in a FKK? Do they even care?
Shoot. Some of the time I was better off muddling through in English because the lady's German was almost as bad as mine, and she had enough education in English that it worked better anyway. I started to think that addressing a lady in English might be an easier way to smoke out a lady that was relatively new, might not have loaded up on German regulars, or might not be a native German (a type that some of you gents recommend avoiding).You're thinking too much. :-) If you are not confident with your German, it's probably best to start off in English. If the provider has no English, do your best with whatever German you can come up with.
With the providers it is "Du" in German. But they do not care. Most make mistakes themselves if they are not German. Fact is, your money speaks more loudly. Just go and enjoy yourself. Hundreds of others do every day with zero German.
[QUOTE=Toscana]You're thinking too much. :-) If you are not confident with your German, it's probably best to start off in English.[?QUOTE]When I am around beautiful young women in a sexually charged atmosphere, my English is not especially good either!
Gents,
Are any of you aware of any car hire deals out of Dusseldorf airport ? I've looked around at some of the major sites, and the minimum rate I've been able to find is about 100 Euros a day !! I don't know if it's because I'm a foreigner or what, but that does seem quite high.
Looking for something for my 3 day trip to Hessen next month. Let me know if you're aware of anything.
Thanks!
Gents,
Are any of you aware of any car hire deals out of Dusseldorf airport ? I've looked around at some of the major sites, and the minimum rate I've been able to find is about 100 Euros a day !! I don't know if it's because I'm a foreigner or what, but that does seem quite high.
Looking for something for my 3 day trip to Hessen next month. Let me know if you're aware of anything.
Thanks!
There are plenty of reports about cheap car hire, use the search feature. Here are couple of hints:
a) go to hertz.de (NOT hertz.com). You can have the site in english if you can't read German. Find the offers link on the left side and you should be able to take it from there
b) go to Avis.de, select "top angebote" and then use the link "Avis Basic"
and finally, yes, it is because you are foreigner, or more correctly, you are probably using the .com websites of brand name rental companies which does not assume you are renting as local. Totally different price strategy. Want to know why? Google it.
You can also use couple of decent agents that might have better prices such as:
www.economycarrentals.com or www.autoeurope.ie
Wanderer1000
10-06-09, 01:25
I've used autoeurope.com about five different times in the last few years, and it's worked well. You don't know which company you'll be renting from until you make the final purchase. The Ireland resident version of the site has a much better price, and includes the CDW. I don't know why the price is so different, but I think it should be able to be given to a U.S. citizen based upon the price I looked at on the economycarrentals.com.
The economycarrentals.com has the approximate prices of the Ireland price for a U.S. citizen, and it appears to have full insurance coverage. I'll have to read the fine print more, but it seems like economycarrentals may be the way to go.
Has anybody used economycarrentals before? What has been your experience with them?
I found a pretty decent deal on the hertz.de website, but apparently its only for residents of Germany, Austria and Switzerland (according to the Terms and Conditions). Wonder how/if I can get around that without too much trouble.
I've used autoeurope.com about five different times in the last few years, and it's worked well. You don't know which company you'll be renting from until you make the final purchase. The Ireland resident version of the site has a much better price, and includes the CDW. I don't know why the price is so different, but I think it should be able to be given to a U.S. citizen based upon the price I looked at on the economycarrentals.com.
The economycarrentals.com has the approximate prices of the Ireland price for a U.S. citizen, and it appears to have full insurance coverage. I'll have to read the fine print more, but it seems like economycarrentals may be the way to go.
Has anybody used economycarrentals before? What has been your experience with them?
I have used economycarrentals several times with decent results. I have no idea what your on about in terms of citizenship, however. That issue never enters into it, only they ask which country is your resident land, not what your citizenship is.
Anyway, if you book to pick the car up at the Frankfurt Airport, you are likely to be given a car by Thrifty, whose office/car pick-up/drop off point is NOT at the Airport but several kilometres away, down the A5. This is inconvenient as you have to wait for a shuttle van to bring you there and have to add extra time when you want to drop it off. So here's a trick:
Book the car pick-up at the Hauptbahnhof (central rail station). Book the car drop off location as the Airport. This way you will be given a car from Sixt and you pick up the car directly at the Frankfurt Hbf. You take the S-bahn into the Hbf and just go upstairs to pick up the car. You can drop it off at the Airport when you are finished for no extra charge. Yes, you get insurance in the rental price, and these prices seem to be better than most other offers available. The only better prices are weekend offers (wochende angebot) at Hertz or Avis, as details in posts at the start of this year by Henio...
Ortos
Italian Buz
10-06-09, 09:26
Hi Nore,
At Dusseldorf Airport I usually rent a Smart with Sixt.com for 3 days 130€ with CDW and reduction of the excess to €350.
Unfortunately there is not the possbility to rent directly at the airport from Sixti.com wich is much cheaper.
I hope it is useful.
ITB
Gents,
Are any of you aware of any car hire deals out of Dusseldorf airport ? I've looked around at some of the major sites, and the minimum rate I've been able to find is about 100 Euros a day !! I don't know if it's because I'm a foreigner or what, but that does seem quite high.
Looking for something for my 3 day trip to Hessen next month. Let me know if you're aware of anything.
Thanks!
I found a pretty decent deal on the hertz.de website, but apparently its only for residents of Germany, Austria and Switzerland (according to the Terms and Conditions). Wonder how/if I can get around that without too much trouble.
You should fill on the adress blank; the adress of your first hotel in Germany and that is all. I have done it several time, no hassle or complication, success is guaranteed. hertz.de has a special weekend package, you may have a car from Friday evening till Tuesday morning as low as 89 Euro, unlimited mileage and including CDW.
Good Luck
Just a word to the rental car theme.
It seems that many companies are strongly reducing unlimited mileage offerings. Both Hertz and Europcar are making those deals much more difficult to find these days.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Just a word to the rental car theme.
It seems that many companies are strongly reducing unlimited mileage offerings. Both Hertz and Europcar are making those deals much more difficult to find these days.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Sixt also started to decrease the ordinary deals, for some 300 km/day. It is still enough but to have unlimited mileage give you more freedom to venture between clubs.
Cheers
I found a pretty decent deal on the hertz.de website, but apparently its only for residents of Germany, Austria and Switzerland (according to the Terms and Conditions). Wonder how/if I can get around that without too much trouble. Don't worry, I have done it more than 100 times all over Europe. Just give whatever address you want, it does not matter at all.
When renting direct from a "brand" name company, always go to the local site. I think I have explained in some old report how the pricing mechanism of those rental companies work and I don't want to repeat.
Rufus T Firefly
10-15-09, 04:57
US residents will be encountering new problems with finance issues while traveling. Or it may seem like traveling 20-30 years ago.
It seems every financial institution in the world except those in the US are moving to debit and credit card with embedded chips. Eventually every machine in Europe accepting credit cards or debit cards will be checking for an embedded chip on your plastic card in addition to asking you for a PIN number. The following article tells you to just ask the shop or vendor to process the card using the older method but I can tell you that won't get you far. I traveled with a credit card with a failing or weak magnetic stripe a couple of years ago, trying to use it for DB tickets. The DB travel bureaus in larger cities took it in stride and did manual transactions. In the small and medium-sized towns, the customer service person had no knowledge and little patience to do the manual transactions.
The bottom line: US residents will eventually find their debit and credit cards unusable everywhere else in the world.
Here's a link to an article on this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/travel/04pracchip.html
Rufus
Rufus T Firefly
10-17-09, 05:19
US residents will be encountering new problems with finance issues while traveling. Or it may seem like traveling 20-30 years ago.
Rufus
To follow up on my initial frantic note, the reports are a little murky. It appears the problem lies primarily with credit card transactions and less or perhaps not at all with debit cards. US credit card holders may have to insist on having their cards magnetically scanned. On the other hand, the reports suggest ATMs won't be a problem since they participate in Cirrus and related bank networks. Here are three URLs to look at...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/travel/04pracchip.html?_r=1
http://intransit.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/readers-rip-on-credit-cards/
http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/travel/04pracchip.html
Rufus
After reading Rufus's note, I immediately called up my bank. For the record, I'm Canadian, and not American, and we are using the chip and pin system up here :)
I was able to get my debit card switched over no problem, but the Visa would take some time to deliver. In any case, my bank assured me that major retailers overseas would not have an issue accepting the old magnetic cards, but they may require you to provide an additional piece of ID. This seems to be the case reading the links below as well.
It is only unless you are travelling to some 'off the beaten path' destinations that the old cards may be rejected. Cash is king, as they say, so always ensure to have some cash on hand, I suppose.
OK, you experts.
Is this correct German?
ENGLISH : I have fifty Euros for the basic package: kissing, oral and fucking.
GERMAN: Ich habe fünfzig Euro für das Basispaket: Küssen, Oralsex und Ficken.
Is there a nicer way to say it? Thx !!
OK, you experts.
Is this correct German?
ENGLISH : I have fifty Euros for the basic package: kissing, oral and fucking.
GERMAN: Ich habe fünfzig Euro für das Basispaket: Küssen, Oralsex und Ficken.
Is there a nicer way to say it? Thx !!
Well, a local would probably not say "Oralsex". More likely Blasen ohne or Französisch ohne. But otherwise that's accurate, no room for misunderstandings, which is presumably your aim. What's nicer? Smile with it, I guess. :-)
Hi gents.
I'll be stopping in Germany and the Czech Republic for four days in early November.- starting and finishing in Frankfurt, with a car.
Here's my question: I have a very long hair fetish, so obviously I will want to visit places with as many women as possible in an effort to find one that scratches that itch. I know it would be generally best then, to aim for FKK's like Oase, World, Bernd's and Palace. Their web sites hint at ladies with very long hair but they could be generic or out-of-date pictures. Doing a "long hair" search here appears to just key on individual words, not a phrase.
If any of you can offer any recommendations, I'll be grateful!
Thanks in advance and best regards!
hi gents.
i'll be stopping in germany and the czech republic for four days in early november.- starting and finishing in frankfurt, with a car.
here's my question: i have a very long hair fetish, so obviously i will want to visit places with as many women as possible in an effort to find one that scratches that itch. i know it would be generally best then, to aim for fkk's like oase, world, bernd's and palace. their web sites hint at ladies with very long hair but they could be generic or out-of-date pictures. doing a "long hair" search here appears to just key on individual words, not a phrase.
if any of you can offer any recommendations, i'll be grateful!
thanks in advance and best regards!
how long does it have to be? i know a few brothels in berlin and traum paradise in nrw that describe the girls hair. (lange haare) this is not common since long hair is not very practical when you have to shower alot and it takes too much time to fix. anything beyond shoulder length will be rare.
I noticed that hertz and a few other sites have limited the mileage for weekend rentals. Another way to get more Euros out of their customers.
I noticed that hertz and a few other sites have limited the mileage for weekend rentals. Another way to get more Euros out of their customers.
Really? I just booked my rental a couple of weekends ago w/Hertz, and seems like the deal came with unlimited mileage...
How long does it have to be? I know a few brothels in Berlin and traum paradise in NRW that describe the girls hair. (lange Haare) This is not common since long hair is not very practical when you have to shower alot and it takes too much time to fix. Anything beyond shoulder length will be rare.Thanks for the info.- MUCH longer than shoulder length for my tastes. Looks as if I'll just have to travel and take my chances.
Thank you!
hi gents.
i'll be stopping in germany and the czech republic for four days in early november.- starting and finishing in frankfurt, with a car.
here's my question: i have a very long hair fetish, so obviously i will want to visit places with as many women as possible in an effort to find one that scratches that itch. i know it would be generally best then, to aim for fkk's like oase, world, bernd's and palace.i guess no one can give recommendations, because no fkk specializes in certain physical characteristics: "sorry, you can't work here with a tits, we only want black girls with big butts....". but surely if you go to a large hessen fkk (second shift at oase, world or palace), there will be a good statistical chance of finding what you want simply because of the larger numbers.
in prague i would ring one of the larger escort agencies, and tell them exactly what you want. they may bait and switch you on the actual girl they send (i.e. not the one you see on the website, unfortunately common practice), but they would probably have a very long-haired girl available if you were very specific and told them it's a must.
good luck.
Links to FKK sites in NRW copied over from the German Language Boredell Community site:
Amnesia, Castrop-Rauxel-Bladenhorst => http://castrop.mcfick.org/
Asia Sauna, Mönchengladbach => http://www.asia-sauna.de/
Asia Sexhaus, Moers => http://www.asia-sexhaus.de/
Asia Sexworld, Hilchenbach => http://www.asia-sexworld.de/
Bernds Sauna Club (Schieferhof), Hennef-Lichtenberg => http://www.bernds-sauna-club.de/
Casanova FKK, Vlotho => http://www.fkk-casanova.de/
Cleopatra Arena, Gelsenkirchen (neu) => http://www.cleopatra-arena.de/
Club 11. Etage (Pascha), Köln => http://www.11te-etage.com/
Club 1-2-3, Hagen => http://www.fkk-hagen.de/
Club Arabella, Bochum-Wattenscheid => http://www.arabella-fkk.de/
Club Belami, Dortmund-Dorstfeld => http://www.belami-fkk.de/
Club Globe, Leverkusen-Opladen/Fixheide (neu) => http://www.club-globe.de/
Club Grimberg Sauna, Gelsenkirchen => http://www.grimberg-fkk.de/
Club M., Rheinbach-Nord => http://www.club-manuela.de/
Club Sauna 2000, Marl => http://www.clubsauna2000.de/
Club Trauminsel, Reichshof => http://www.club-trauminsel.de/
Club Unique, Lomm bei Venlo / NL => http://www.sexclubunique.nl/
Club Villa Venus, Duisburg-Neumühl => http://www.venus-fkk.de/
Club Yin Yang, Roermond / NL => http://www.yinyang.nl/
De Limburgse Wallen, Maasbracht / NL => http://www.limburgsewallen.nl/
Dolce Vita Erotic-Lounge, Düsseldorf-Reisholz => http://www.city-fkk.de/
FKK Atlantica, Wuppertal-Varresbeck => http://www.fkk-atlantica.de/
FKK Club Relax, Dorsten => http://www.fkk-erotika.de/
FKK Pegasus, Wegberg-Wildenrath => http://www.fkk-pegasus.de/
FKK Saunaclub Great Palace, Gladbeck (neu) => http://www.fkk-greatpalace.de/
FKK Saunaclub Living Room, Kaarst-Holzbüttgen => http://www.fkk-living.de/
FKK-Club Pascha, Köln => http://www.pascha-fkk.de/
FKK-Club Penelope, Essen => http://www.clubpenelope.de/
FKK-Club Salome, Herne => http://www.fkksalome.de/
FKK-Club Samya, Köln-Rodenkirchen => http://www.samya.de/
FKK-Club Zeus, Wallenhorst => http://www.fkk-zeus.de/
FKK-Oase HeavensGate, Dorsten-Wulfen => http://www.fkk-heavensgate.com/
FKK-Sauna-Club Love Palace, Osnabrück => http://www.lovepalace-os.de/
FKK-Saunaclub Van Goch, Goch-West => http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/
Freude 39, Bochum => http://www.fkk-freudenberg.de/
FunGarden, Emmerich => http://www.fun-garden.com/
Haus Lug ins Land, Brachbach => http://www.clubluginsland.de/
Mausis Saunaclub, Dortmund-Aplerbeck => http://www.mausi-und-team.de/
new if club, Kamen => http://www.newifclub.de/
Parksauna Residenz, Lohmar-Durbusch => http://www.parksauna-residenz.de/
Parkschloss Dali, Marsberg-Bredelar => http://www.parkschlossdali.de/
Pauschal-Saunaclub Harem, Dormagen (neu) => http://www.harem-pauschalclub.de/
Planet Happy Garden, Tönisvorst => http://www.planet-happygarden.de/
Postillon Bar, Linne / NL => http://www.postillonbar.nl/
Privatclub Babylon, Elsdorf => http://www.babylon-privatclub.info/
Privatclub Neby, Dortmund-Marten => http://www.privatclub-neby.de/
Römerbad, Köln => http://www.roemerbad-cologne.de/
RTCs allgemein, Ruhrgebiet => http://www.saunaclubs-in-nrw.de/
Salon Rouge, Köln-Bickendorf => http://www.saunaclub-salonrouge.de/
Sauna Blue Note, Düsseldorf-Rath => http://www.saunabluenote.de/
Saunaclub 177, Bielefeld => http://www.saunaclub177.de/
Saunaclub Acapulco, Velbert-Röbbeck => http://www.fkkacapulco.de/
Saunaclub Atrium, Erkrath-Unterfeldhaus => http://www.saunaclub-atrium.de/
Saunaclub DejaVu, Melle-Westerhausen => http://www.saunaclub-dejavu.de/
Saunaclub Golden Gate, Münster => http://www.goldengatemuenster.de/
Saunaclub GoldenTime, Brüggen => http://www.goldentime.de/
Saunaclub Harem, Bad Lippspringe => http://www.saunaclubharem.de/
Saunaclub Lekker Ding, Wegberg-Wildenrath (neu ab Januar 2010) => http://www.saunaclub-lekkerding.com/
Sauna-Club Opium, Köln-Marsdorf (neu) => http://www.sauna-club-opium.de/
Saunaclub Paradise, Neuss (neu) => http://www.saunaclub-paradise.de/
Saunaclub Paradiso, Pulheim => http://www.saunaclubparadiso.de/
Sauna-Exclusiv, Hamm => http://www.sauna-exclusiv.de/
Süder Sauna Club, Recklinghausen-Süd => http://www.sauna-club-as.de/
Villa Erotika, Iserlohn-Dröschede => http://www.villa-erotika.com/
Villa Exclusive, Greven => http://www.villa-exclusive.de/
Villa Marisol, Hamminkeln => http://www.villa-marisol.de/
Villa Romantika, Recklinghausen => http://www.fkk-romantika.de/
Villa Silvana, Warstein (neu) => http://www.villa-silvana.com/
Villa Vertigo, Grefrath => http://www.villavertigo.de/
Waldsauna Gut Michelshohn, Hennef-Michelshohn (neu) => http://www.waldsauna-michelshohn.de/
I guess no one can give recommendations, because no FKK specializes in certain physical characteristics: "sorry, you can't work here with A tits, we only want black girls with big butts.". But surely if you go to a large Hessen FKK (second shift at Oase, World or Palace), there will be a good statistical chance of finding what you want simply because of the larger numbers.
In Prague I would ring one of the larger escort agencies, and tell them exactly what you want. They may bait and switch you on the actual girl they send (I. E. Not the one you see on the website, unfortunately common practice), but they would probably have a very long-haired girl available if you were very specific and told them it's a must.
Good luck.I appreciate the advice, Toscana. I think that's what I'll do. Since my days/nights are Saturday through Tuesday, I'll probably hit a large FKK on the first day, as I imagine there's a serious drop off in numbers after a Saturday.
Thanks again!
Well, a local would probably not say "Oralsex". More likely Blasen ohne or Französisch ohne. But otherwise that's accurate, no room for misunderstandings, which is presumably your aim. What's nicer? Smile with it, I guess. :-)OK. I think I will go with
"Ich habe fünfzig Euro für das Basispaket: Küssen, Blasen und Sex.
Thank you
ENGLISH : I have fifty Euros for the basic package: kissing, oral and fucking.
GERMAN: Ich habe fünfzig Euro für das Basispaket: Küssen, Oralsex und Ficken.
Is there a nicer way to say it? Thx !!
And if you want to be very "nice" you could also substitute Verkehr (pronounced Fer-care/means intercourse) for Ficken...
What are some common responses to 'Wie gehts?'.
What are some common responses to 'Wie gehts?'.
More or less the same as English...
Gut - Good
Sehr gut - Very good
Geht's gut - Goes well
Nicht schlecht - Not bad
Nicht so schlecht - Not so bad
Super - super
Etc...
More polite would then be to enquire back...
Und wie geht's dir? - And how are you?
Und dir, wie geht's? - And you, how are you?
Etc...
So an ice-breaker might go...
Wie geht's? (How are you?)
Sehr gut, danke - und wie geht's dir? (Very good, thank you - and how are you?)
Super, ich habe jetzt eine sehr gute Laune! (Super, I'm now in very good humour!)
Warum or Wie so? (Why?)
Weil ich dich nun getroffen habe! (Because I've just met you!)
...at which point you run out of German and your "game" collapses! :)
Well, no actually, if you are enquiring for "chatting up" purposes, a little Deutsch goes a long way.
A lot of German ladies are charmed and impressed by any attempts to get beyond Ja, nein, danke, etc.
And to assist you in your efforts to make some headway with the language with typical Deutsch courtesy will more often than not proceed to give you their full attention.
90+% of visitors to Candyland, sorry Germany, don't really bother to learn any Deutsch and about 90% of the rest lapse back into English as soon as their German counterpart starts talking back in Anglo-Saxon so you can make a difference for yourself by doing a little homework.
And sometimes the ladies are more taken by those that ham their way through the language than the more fluent types.
Or at least that's been my experience...
What are some common responses to 'Wie gehts?'.
Hey N O R E and ftp1999,
For what it's worth, I'd not sweat the language thing too much. While the average German on the street or in the shop may be grateful for the attempts to make use of a little Deutsch, in the big FKK clubs it is really not so important and the payoff isn't likely to be all that great.
Most German girls in the clubs speak better than average English. Gals from Bulgaria, Romanian, Russia, Czech Rep. etc. probably will get around in English as well if not better than German.
I know a monger who spends a good deal of time with Melissa at GT. He speaks little to no German and she speaks no English. They never have a problem.
In fact quite a few club running mates I have speak little to no Deutsch and have had great success in the FKKs over many seasons.
Funny as it may sound, it is probably better to use the tongue that you are most charming in and feel most comfortable with. Practicing German skills at the clubs is probably a waste of time if one's skill are little more than rudimentary.
I find that I'm using German less and less in many clubs. My ratio is probably 60/40 (English/German) these days.
Cheers and have fun,
Dedalus
I noticed that hertz and a few other sites have limited the mileage for weekend rentals. Another way to get more Euros out of their customers.
Hey Aki,
True enough. Nearly ever car rental agency has cut back on unlimited mileage deals. Most weekend rates now come with a 250 km per day allowance. An agent at Europcar as well as one at Hertz told me that these changes started at the end of August.
There are still a few unlimited miles/km deals to be found, but they are hidden well and usually not available on many calendar dates.
Cheers,
Dedalus
thanks for the info.- much longer than shoulder length for my tastes. looks as if i'll just have to travel and take my chances.
thank you!
hey speedo,
if you were in hessen and decided to stop by world, then you might luck out and catch angelina, who not only has long hair, but is seriously hot, with an athletic figure, and has a smokin' little booty on her. on top of that she is dynamite in the room. she's mentioned in an earlier report:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=920638&postcount=3159
best to call ahead and see if she is there. she's been absent on my last few visits.
cheers,
dedalus
hey speedo,
if you were in hessen and decided to stop by world, then you might luck out and catch angelina, who not only has long hair, but is seriously hot, with an athletic figure, and has a smokin' little booty on her. on top of that she is dynamite in the room. she's mentioned in an earlier report:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=920638&postcount=3159
best to call ahead and see if she is there. she's been absent on my last few visits.
cheers,
dedalusshe sounds perfect, dedalus! i'll call ahead when i get to frankfurt and with luck, she'll be there.
many thanks !!
hi gents.
i'll be stopping in germany and the czech republic for four days in early november.- starting and finishing in frankfurt, with a car.
here's my question: i have a very long hair fetish, so obviously i will want to visit places with as many women as possible in an effort to find one that scratches that itch. i know it would be generally best then, to aim for fkk's like oase, world, bernd's and palace. their web sites hint at ladies with very long hair but they could be generic or out-of-date pictures. doing a "long hair" search here appears to just key on individual words, not a phrase.
if any of you can offer any recommendations, i'll be grateful!
thanks in advance and best regards!
visited there yesterday and noticed quite a few with long hair. check out their great website, which has a detailed listing of all their current roster including physical features and look for "lang" in the haare category.
Visited there yesterday and noticed quite a few with long hair. Check out their great website, which has a detailed listing of all their current roster including physical features and look for "lang" in the Haare category.Thanks, Iseeu.
It looks as if World will be my Saturday stop.
Cheers!
For what it's worth, I'd not sweat the language thing too much. While the average German on the street or in the shop may be grateful for the attempts to make use of a little Deutsch, in the big FKK clubs it is really not so important and the payoff isn't likely to be all that great.
Dedalus, I'm inclined to agree with you on this.
My comments are more geared to making your own way in cafes, bars & nightclubs etc...
Body language is so much more important. A smile, a warm caress, a neck massage all speak volumes. True, it helps to mangle "Du bist schön" and get a smile for it. Try a little spanish with the romanians, many of whom know Italian. It's the effort. If the girl is going to rush you, no language matters. If she is going to cuddle and spend time on the couch with you, no language is needed.
Mark
....Try a little spanish with the romanians, many of whom know Italian....
ah, you are making it too complicated :-) Just try some Romanian with the Romanians. Lots of fun to be had with that.
Body language is so much more important. A smile, a warm caress, a neck massage all speak volumes. True, it helps to mangle "Du bist schön" and get a smile for it. Try a little spanish with the romanians, many of whom know Italian. It's the effort. If the girl is going to rush you, no language matters. If she is going to cuddle and spend time on the couch with you, no language is needed.
MarkTruth. I just enjoy languages, and figured that a little German may help. I am in Deutschland, after all :)
Maybe I start using more of my French :)
Body language is so much more important. A smile, a warm caress, a neck massage all speak volumes. True, it helps to mangle "Du bist schön" and get a smile for it. Try a little spanish with the romanians, many of whom know Italian. It's the effort. If the girl is going to rush you, no language matters. If she is going to cuddle and spend time on the couch with you, no language is needed.
MarkTake some 50E notes and rub them over her body.
If that doesn't get them going, nothing will.
Truth. I just enjoy languages, and figured that a little German may help. I am in Deutschland, after all :)
Maybe I start using more of my French :)
I have some fun with them when they try to upsell for anal (I just have never been attracted to anal, so why pay more?). I point to their pussy and say "eingang" (entrance) and point to their ass and say "ausgang" (exit) or "ausfahrt" (highway exit). They giggle sometimes, and sometimes they pout!
"Du bist schön" (you are pretty) is an easy one to use, too.
Anyway, all the German in the world won't save a jerk punter. Treat 'em nice and it goes a long way. "Ein wenig Zucker bedeckt viele Sünden." (I think this is 'a little sugar covers many sins')
Mark
Tuxsmasher
10-24-09, 16:01
Out of pure curiosity, and this might be a bit influenced by the current discussion in the GT thread, it would probably be a good idea to know which FKK(or even partytreff) clubs that have an official policy regarding this, it has been said F39 and Acapulco don't let in black guys f. Ex., how many other clubs do you know of that do this?
Basketcase
10-24-09, 22:01
Out of pure curiosity, and this might be a bit influenced by the current discussion in the GT thread, it would probably be a good idea to know which FKK(or even partytreff) clubs that have an official policy regarding this, it has been said F39 and Acapulco don't let in black guys f. Ex., how many other clubs do you know of that do this?
Tuxsmasher,
You may want to read the threads again. Acapulco has no such exclusion policy for non Germans.
Out of pure curiosity, and this might be a bit influenced by the current discussion in the GT thread, it would probably be a good idea to know which FKK(or even partytreff) clubs that have an official policy regarding this, it has been said F39 and Acapulco don't let in black guys f. Ex., how many other clubs do you know of that do this?
Clearly no club has an official policy. Some clubs just select more at the door than others that is all.
In Freude, true you will not find a lot of colored man. In Gt you will find some.
Actually all clubs select in a way but the criteria can differ. In acapulco you will not find a lot of selection but it can happen. The owner of AC is the same as Penelope in Essen where 90 procent of the guests are Turkish men. Nice club actually!
Big30
Out of pure curiosity, and this might be a bit influenced by the current discussion in the GT thread, it would probably be a good idea to know which FKK(or even partytreff) clubs that have an official policy regarding this, it has been said F39 and Acapulco don't let in black guys f. Ex., how many other clubs do you know of that do this?
For what it is worth, Don't remember having seen anyone turned away from Oase, Palace or World based on race or any other criteria and by the look of some of the clientele there, I doubt that they ever do unless you came crawling out of the gutter [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk.
Last time I was at World there was a guy [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk, could barely stand on his feet and was being pretty disrespectful in his groping advances to the girls, but still he was allowed to stay. There was an incident with some Russian guys causing all kinds of trouble along with throwing up and crap like that at Oase some time ago and they were allowed to stay. Hessen Big 3 are pretty tolerant from many different angles.
Out of pure curiosity, and this might be a bit influenced by the current discussion in the GT thread, it would probably be a good idea to know which FKK(or even partytreff) clubs that have an official policy regarding this, it has been said F39 and Acapulco don't let in black guys f. Ex., how many other clubs do you know of that do this?
There is a Paschal Club in NRW, which is obviously not so tolerant for non German punters, Gang Bang Treff, near Datteln.
And I was turned away once, from a former Red Carpet Club, Villa Arabella, due not being able to speak German.
And I heard that no any German customer can enter this place;
Mausi's Erotikparadies... Look at the flag that Mausi is holding...
http://www.mausi-und-team.de/
I do not know if it was discussed before, but it is possible or I can get into some troubles if I carry inside the pocket of bathrobe, without showing around, a camera to take, once in bedroom some photos ?
I am sure if I ask to the staff they will say no, but if I carry discretely and if they find it out, which troubles can I risk ?
I do not know if it was discussed before, but it is possible or I can get into some troubles if I carry inside the pocket of bathrobe, without showing around, a camera to take, once in bedroom some photos ?
I am sure if I ask to the staff they will say no, but if I carry discretely and if they find it out, which troubles can I risk ?
Honestly, I wouldn't bother. Its quite the risk...are you planning to ask the girl if you can take photos of her? Even if you are, I honestly wouldnt go there.
Honestly, I wouldn't bother. Its quite the risk...are you planning to ask the girl if you can take photos of her? Even if you are, I honestly wouldnt go there.
Obviously I ask in advance, if she agree, I take some photos, if not, no problem.
Actually this is what I did in termas in Rio and never had any problems, most of them agree, but it seems not a common thing in FKK or am I wrong ?
Obviously I ask in advance, if she agree, I take some photos, if not, no problem.
Actually this is what I did in termas in Rio and never had any problems, most of them agree, but it seems not a common thing in FKK or am I wrong ?
You're right, they are not as accommodating in FKKs. I can see it being OK in places like Rio and Thailand, but would be quite surprised if you got the OK in a FKK.
Tuxsmasher
10-28-09, 01:04
While in artemis last march, a venzuellan milf consented to me taking a picture of her inside one of the curtain rooms in the kino, with my mobile.She was nervous about the cameras, trying to keep a low voice. It's all about trust! Dont do it btw. not a good idea.
Vito Corleone
10-28-09, 03:04
Obviously I ask in advance, if she agree, I take some photos, if not, no problem.
Actually this is what I did in termas in Rio and never had any problems, most of them agree, but it seems not a common thing in FKK or am I wrong ?
It might be better to keep your camera in your locker then go back & retrieve it if a girl agrees. You would not want to drop your camera infront of the entire club while sitting on a stool/couch.
I do not know if it was discussed before, but it is possible or I can get into some troubles if I carry inside the pocket of bathrobe, without showing around, a camera to take, once in bedroom some photos ?
I am sure if I ask to the staff they will say no, but if I carry discretely and if they find it out, which troubles can I risk ?
It's my belief that cameras is the primary reason that they frown on cellphones in FKKs.
Gfe Finder
10-28-09, 04:13
I do not know if it was discussed before, but it is possible or I can get into some troubles if I carry inside the pocket of bathrobe, without showing around, a camera to take, once in bedroom some photos ?
I am sure if I ask to the staff they will say no, but if I carry discretely and if they find it out, which troubles can I risk ?
The staff in any club will almost certainly say no, as will most all the girls. I agree that you shouldn't carry it around and should check with the girl first to minimize the time you have the camera "in public" and the consequent risk
Once upon a time, I believe that Wan King took and posted a photo of an FKK girl. I don't recall where, when, or of whom off the top of my head. Perhaps you could PM him, or he'd be willing to elaborate publicly here?
It's my belief that cameras is the primary reason that they frown on cellphones in FKKs.
Officially, I've seen "no cell phones allowed" signs at the Hessen 3 among other places. The management, guests, and girls must not have gotten the message. I see all three parties walking through the club using them. I wouldn't worry about using a cell phone unless you were obviously trying to take pictures of someone (in which case, shame on you!)
Thanks guys, I think the girl will have no problem so far as I will let her hide the face with her hair and so on, but maybe she will surprised if is so not-common thing here in FKK.
I believe phone with good camera is much better than to bring camera cause you can always say the excuse you are waiting a very important phone call but with camera you can only take pictures.
Depending about where exactly is my locker, I will try to go back and to get it.
P.S. I am more afraid that girl will ask money for photo instead of say no to some photos of her body....
Marius1970
10-28-09, 09:27
I have a question. Is there STD control for the girls who work in FKK clubs? I heard it is obligatory but I am not sure. Are they required to get tested regularly? I visited one Fkk club a few weeks ago and now I am a little bit worried. Thank you for the answer, I was not sure I could ask my question here.
Hessen Bub
10-28-09, 10:03
Girls - if you don't carry your camera/cell phone with camera around in public but ask the girl if she will allow you to take a picture (including/excluding her faced) in the room - that should be OK in all the clubs.
Club - running around with your phone will cause trouble in clubs like Palace or FKK World - they are very strict because they are afraid that you do take pictures of girls and/or guests. Oase on the other side doesn't give a damn if you use your cell phone in the garden - all girls/guests do that, even inside there's no issue carrying you phone around. I do quite often do business calls or emails in the garden.
HB
Angus Magee
10-30-09, 20:06
Gentlemen, this final post on the Iseeu/Angus October Tour will serve as a place for me to give an overview of my recent experiences and to compare a bit the experiences an eager pooner can hope to have some of Germany’s various FKK. As I have experienced, there are differences between the various clubs ranging from physical size to more difficult to quantify qualities-mood, atmosphere and/or “energy”. (In quotes as I find energy to be a particularly vague and difficult to quality define. I guess that for me the energy of a room refers to how one experiences the room through all of one’s sensing/feeling/thinking apparatus-and that may be just the most long winded way of saying:How does it feel to be there? )
It is also the most difficult part for me to write and the part that feels most like work to me. The reports that I write about my experiences are great fun for me to write. It is a way for me to go back and in a way re-experience the events of the days & evenings spent in pursuit of pussy. I intend for them not just to inform, but also to entertain the reader. I hope, and from all your kind comments I think I succeed, that in the reports I can take the reader on a journey of discovery, the same journey that I myself take when I visit the clubs.
But while the story telling comes quite naturally to me, the following break down & analysis of the tour makes me sweat a bit. Lazy old Angus has to make an effort to organize his jumbled thoughts.
One more further comment before I begin, a philosophical note on objectivity. In the reports themselves I do not concern myself so much with objectivity. I just allow my mind to drift back to the events I am attempting to describe and rely on my oh so fallible memory. This gives me the general situation and then I tune into how I am feeling in the moment of writing and use this to color in the details and give the scene life.
Life, as always, is found only in the moment.
With this wrap up I will attempt to give a more objective view. But in the end I am never really sure if I am indeed capable of any true or ultimate objectivity. Even trying to define, in this moment “objectivity”, I am aware that I am doing so through an apparatus (my mind) that is many things but it is not objective. It sees things how it wants to see them and is usually spinning the facts in my favor-God bless it;-))
First I will give a short run down and recap of the clubs visited and the ladies with whom I spent intimate moments.
Day 1-Samya just outside of Köln. Samya is a small club located in an industrial park on the outskirts of Köln. The facilities are good and the management really appears to care that you have a good experience.
Positives:
-small intimate setting
-good home cooked food
-a small but good selection of girls, pretty good variation in nationalities
-clean.
-great showers with lots of warm water. Best shower head ever!
-very good price. 50 euros to get in, 50 for the first half hour with a girl and then 25 euros for the second half hour. Can’t be beat considering the good over all quality of the girls.
Negatives:
-actually meeting & mingling with the girls is difficult. See Toscana’s recent report for some more details & observations on this.
-the sauna needs work & the steam room kind of stinks.
-the session rooms I found to be a bit utilitarian and less than luxurious. But then as mentioned above it is a less expensive venue so this is not a huge negative for me.
The girls I had sessions with:
Ivana-German, 20 years old. Description but no pics on the website.
http://www.samya.de/gallery/index.php?gid=580
Accuracy of description-100%
Positives:
-really pleasing body especially the breasts.
Negatives:
-not very responsive
-intimate jewelry was a distraction. There was too much of it.
Would I repeat? Very unlikely.
Allina-Romanian, 19 years old (very believable) Description & pics on the website
http://www.samya.de/gallery/index.php?gid=750
Positives:
-just beautiful & terribly sweet and kind of innocent. A true teeny girl
-did I say sweet?
-the panties;-)) That is what caught my attention
-responsive in the room. She got really, really wet.
Negatives:
-can not really think of any, I had a great time with her.
Would I repeat? Most likely
Over all mood of the club-Sort of like a bar where everybody knows your name-and where everyone is more or less naked. Too bad Kirstie Alley (a mid ‘80s Kirsty that is) wasn’t there. Thank God Norm wasn’t. This reference will probably only make sense to North American readers who watched TV in the 80s’
Day 2 Bernds: In a small, very German town just 20 or so minutes from Köln airport. Maybe a bit longer from the city center. Not terribly easy, but possible, to access with public transit. Small but clean facilities. The sauna is clean & hot. The over all facilities work but again are not lux. But hey, it is in a house. In a word intimate.
Positives:
-intimate and easy to contact the girls-especially with Iseeu handling the matchmaking.
-a real fun & friendly atmosphere. Nobody is taking anything too seriously here.
-the lassies really take care of you, bring drinks etc.
-very reasonable entry (50euros) and session (50/half hour incl. bbbjcim-WOW) rates.
-reasonable, catered food(from Hotel Reuter’s). Not haut cuisine but tasty.
Negatives:
-can not really think of too many. Some mongers might find the ladies of this house a bit diverse (if you are a milf lover you will love Bernds) and you will not find the high glamour of the large FKK-at least I didn’t. But then you will find a girl like Svenja who I can guarantee you will not find anywhere else in FKK land.
-a bit of German helps here as nobody speaks very much English. Again, not really a negative but worthy of mention. So a bit of German or to be gregarious like Iseeu helps.
Note worthy:
-see this is where the objectivity stuff starts to rear its’ complicated head. I had included this as a negative but then thought I needed to put it in the positive column. Finally I decided to add “note worthy”. At Bernds you pay your entry and then you put away your cash in the locker. You session with the girls and at the end you settle your bill.
For me this works really well. Not having to head to the locker at the end of a session is nice. It is more relaxing and helps to support the illusion that you are just hanging out meeting the girls and then having sex when you want it. But it does require that you trust the girls to make an accurate tally or at least one that agrees with yours.
As I had read about Bernds and also discussed the club with Iseeu, I was not really worried about this. I trusted that it would be fair and accurate. This club perhaps more than any other club must depend upon repeat business. If the guests start to feel ripped off then business will suffer. This I would imagine keeps them honest. But still you have to trust.
I must admit that I had, at the back of my mind, a bit of concern that upon check out, would my mental tally agree with the club’s tally. And indeed it did. But when you are in the room, especially in the relaxing atmosphere created at Bernds, I found it easy to forget about time. And I did not really want to destroy the illusion (I am fond of illusion) that I mention above and make time checks with the girls. Maybe one of the more experienced Bernds visitors can comment on this and how it all actually works.
So, I feel it needs to be said that when at Bernds, if you want to experience it in the way I experienced it, you need to be able to put aside any distrust you might have and trust that you will be treated fairly. My experience there is that you will be. My half hour sessions all felt long and never was I rushed in any way. Maybe the girls work on the assumption that if you want a longer session you will ask for it and other wise give you the default half hour.
Rather a long comment but an important one I think.
Girls I had sessions with:
Katja, Ageless? but probably around 40? A mature milf.
Positives:
-a very well developed mature female sexuality. Blow job off the charts and amazing pussy muscle control. This woman knows her stuff and how to satisfy a man. Good tantric potential here to those interested.
-very intuitive about what you need on all levels. A master of the approach-less approach or maybe the pathless path? Katja may just be an “enlightened” hooker IMO.
Negatives:
-none really that I could see unless you are hung up on women (and you can not call Katja a girl as she ain’t one) with absolutely taut 20 year old skin. Katja has some miles on her but she has managed to absorb her youthful outer beauty and metamorphose it into a mature sexuality that is a delightful and horny at the same time.
Would I repeat? It would be hard not too once Katja’s tongue starts snaking up my leg...
Svenja, 25?, long dark hair, dark eyes and milky skin. Slim figure with a bit of a bum and a pretty girl next door look.
Positives:
-the girl next door look sits well on Svenja. She is an easy girl both to look at and with whom to spend intimate time. Her receptivity helps to really give an illusion of a girlfriend. A real GFE.
-way above average blow job skills.
-I think I can safely say that you would never find a girl similar to Svenja in any of the clubs we regularly discuss here-except Bernds. Or at least the odds of doing so are so exceedingly remote that they approach null at an infinite rate of regression-I don’t know if this last phrase actually means anything mathematically but I thought it sounds good and you get my drift.
Negatives:
-only that she is not here with me now:-(( Bummer.
Would I repeat? Oh yes.
Over all mood of the club: I kept thinking I was in a friend’s parents’ wreck room in the 70’s-where his mom (Katja) kept plying you with beers (not literally-beer is available but nobody plys you) and sucking your cock and at the end of the evening his hot older sister (Svenja)starts necking with you then takes you in a back room and fucks you. Again, this image may make more sense to N. American readers. Fun, very relaxed and easy contact.
Day 3 Oase. Just outside of Frankfurt (25 mins. on public transit from the Hbf and then a 5-10 min. taxi) Osae is a large, destination FKK. One of the Hessen big three it is a large property with a roomy interior space, beautiful grounds and outdoor facilities (obviously put to better use in the summer months) and big variety of girls. There is a lot to say about Oase and the dedicated thread on this forum should be explored fully to get an idea of what is available. But a visit is really the only way that you will fully appreciate this Zanadu like pleasure dome.
Positives:
-great facilities over all. Sauna, jacuzzi, steam room all top notch.
-one word-Girls. Lots of variety and in m experience not too pushy & aggressive. Forward (they approach you with out hesitation) but seemingly able to hear “no” when spoken clearly.
-food is good and I suspect, but am not sure, cooked in house. It is a bit difficult to access at the bar but I hear this is better in the summer when they have an outdoor service area.
-girls often offered to fetch me a drink. A nice touch IMO.
-entry(65 euros) and session fee (50/half hour +extras) okay when you compare it to Artemis so it makes it into the positives. But it ain’t cheap.
Negatives:
-the locker room is small and a wee bit dingy and the lockers themselves are on the small side.
-the session rooms are a wee bit small, except for the orgy room that could have fit a whole circus. And they are in short supply when the place gets busy. But then if you have chosen well this does give you & the girl more time to get better aquatinted so...
and I guess this is also better in the summer when there are a number of private outside cabanas also in use.
-towels-my one big beef with Oase. While the towels are of a good quality they are in exceedingly short supply IMO. And it wasn’t even busy. On several occasions during the evening I found myself off in search of a towel and having to go all the way to the front desk to find one. There are a couple of towel pick up points but these were often empty. And no towels at all to be found in the locker room? nor in the sauna/steam room area.
-I found that the acoustics in the main bar area to be difficult. Conversation was difficult due to the echoey big room. Maybe my age is showing here.
-not a whole lot of quiet space. You can find places but you have to improvise.
-this last one I did not really experience but I imagine that the rooms get a bit “well used” when it gets really busy. As I could see there is no real cleaning staff responsible for cleaning or tidying the rooms between sessions or while the club is open. It seems to be left to the girls to tidy up. And maybe the cleaning staff is so good and discrete that I missed them? As I say, I did not really experience the rooms as dirty, just once I did see a rather disturbing wet spot on one of the mattresses I was to use. But then hey, it is a sex club and I personally do have the ability to put my squeamishness aside when about to bang a hot 20 something year old.
Note: Those negatives seem to require a whole lot of explanation. It is that objectivity monster again.
Girls I had sessions with:
Sina, mid 20s’, Brazilian. Too hot to describe really but tall, caramel skinned and smelling like exotic spices of the east.
Positives:
-everything about her was perfect
Negatives
-if I have to find one she does have implants which are not usually favorites with me. But they are about the most perfect implants (small implants) I have ever seen and I would never have guessed just by looking. It is only when you get your hands on her breasts (and by that point you would have to be a very strange pooner to even care) that you notice this. So Sina gets a pass on the implants.
Would I repeat? Do you really have to ask? I’d marry the girl in a flash.
Michelle, Swiss, early to mid 20s’(?), light brown (blondish) hair and lots of it in curls, pretty lusty look with an athletic figure and large natural breasts with sort of puffy nipples. These breast defy normal relativistic (again-sounds good) constraints and appear to just hang there in mid air unsupported. Perhaps the best proof I have seen yet of the existence of anti-gravitational technology. And when she walks-forget it-I’m going to beat off.
Positives:
-of course the above mentioned breasts.
-her personality can not be beat and this shows on her face. Very expressive features.
-her blow job is everything a blow job should be, deep, no teeth, great suction and pressure control, well timed and executed tongue twirls & swirls,plenty of eye contact at all the right moments, the boys are not ignored and she truly seems to love what she is doing. 10/10 from the Scottish judge.
-her pure lusty energy.
Negatives:
-depending upon your mood all of the above can overload the senses and cause...er...hydraulic failure as Toscana might say. Make sure that you have eaten a good breakfast, had plenty of sleep and are well rested if you go to find Michelle. You will need to be in top form to fully appreciate this beauty and top PSE performer.
Would I repeat? Without a doubt if I was feeling athletic. Indeed she is on my mental to/do or repeat with list
Gabrielle, Venezuelan, 25 (I think) but looks like she could be 18. Small girl with small-ish but perfectly shaped breasts & nipples. Dark liquid eyes that require a road map to find your way out of.
Positives:
-she has a great personality. No wait, isn’t that what you say about a girl who is so plain that you are just trying to say something nice? But she does have a great personality and she is anything other than plain. One of the cutest girls I have even met in any P4P environment.
-breasts that can keep you busy for hours-and responsive.
-way superior blow job. How can I compare all the different blow jobs and what exactly are those differences? Truthfully I do not know any answer to this. It will have to remain one of life’s more enveloping mysteries. But if you will go back to the part of my Oase report that describes my time spent with Gabrielle and read again the short paragraph inspired by that blow job, perhaps you will start to get the idea.
Negatives:
-gentlemen I am stumped. I can not even creatively come up with a negative just to balance the report. And I can not say even that Gabrielle was the best session of the tour (Sina) but my session with her had a magical quality to it. So let’s just say that the only negative is that she works at Oase-4 plus hours train ride from Berlin.
Would I repeat? Yes, yes, yes.
Rebecca, Bulgarian, mid twenties? tall (with hooker heels) kind of skanky looking, dark hair and unconventionally pretty.
Positives:
-good deep toothless blow job
-affectionate once she suspected that she would soon be on the clock.
-impossibly smooth silky skin
-had a slightly hidden sense of humor that was easily stimulated by Old Angus.
-as easy as I feel she can attract her customers she did seem to appreciate the business
-good kisser
-did not complain when little Angus required perhaps more than the usual effort to finish the job. A real soldier.
Negatives:
-slightly too much lip gloss. But she did wipe it off before we began.
-a bit of “work” to contact and keep amused.
-after the fun, conversation pretty much ground to a halt after 5 minutes pillow talk. But by then it was time to go anyway so no worries really.
Would I repeat? Possibly but not high on the list. I think part of the positive outcome of the session was circumstantial.
Janey, Bulgarian, early 20s’, petit with a cracker jack little body, dark long curly ringlets and secretary glasses that...well...you know.
Positives
-an artiste of the pick up and angling portion of the session. I appreciate a good pick up, one that is both patient and in which the girl brings her powers of persuasion in to play. Simply, she kissed and made out until my powers of resistance were useless. Also known as the Borg technique of seduction. I was assimilated.
-very responsive to my late night purvi-ness.
-somehow managed to wake the dead and provoked from little A an unexpected yet welcomed vigor.
Negatives:
-a little combative when in conversation. Is this a negative? Not really as a girl is certainly entitled to her opinion if I am paying her or not. But for a longer session where conversation comes more into play it could get a bit annoying. But for short term I can easily surrender the point. This girl might make a good dom.
-I kind of felt that Janey was really trying for an unplanned cim. And her blow job was certainly good enough (very very good actually) to make this happen. Luckily Little A came upon his unexpected second wind and was the master of his own domain. And I really can not blame a girl for trying. All part of the game brah.
Would I repeat? Again, possibly. But as above I have a feeling that much of the magic of this session had to do with circumstance and perhaps the alignment of some impossible to predict forces.
Over all mood of the club: Oase is sort of like your (or mine anyway) fantasy disco. Lots of flash & stimulation for the senses, music reasonably good and not too loud, nobody asks you to dance, plenty of other stuff to do (sauna, steam jacuzzi, eat when the food comes) and all the hot girls are practically begging you to take them in the back for a snog. Did I die and go to heaven? If anyone wants to convert Old Angus to Islam, or any other religion for that matter, all they have to do is convince me that when I do die I will indeed be going to a place such as Oase. In the mean time I’ll pony up my 65 euro entrance fee and enter this more easily accessible garden of earthly delights.
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No one is more surprised than me at the length of this posting. I really thought I had said most of what I had to say in my original posts. But as I wrote this more just seemed to arrive. And I must admit that I had a moment near the end when I wondered if I was repeating myself, trying to draw out the inevitable end of this most enjoyable process of writing. I have not had so much fun writing in months. Nor have I been so prolific. But then this subject matter happens to be very dear to my heart and the writing is almost, almost but not quite, as enjoyable as doing the research. But then I had a reread and in all honesty decided that there is also valuable intel contained in this post and that it is well worth posting.
I hope you all agree.
And I haven’t even gotten to the comparisons yet...
So how do I compare these clubs. Including my “home” club Artemis. Briefly (I hope) I can not really in all honesty compare Samya, Bernds & Oase. They are all very different clubs and comparing them would be like comparing apples & oranges as they say.
Samya is a small intimate club and I can easily see being a regular there were I to live close by. Bernds has that intimate sex party feel which I would love to visit regularly but not every week. And Oase seems very much like a destination club. One that you go to, again not too frequently, but when you really want to explore youthful feminine beauty in all its variations. I really think that for me anyway it would be hard to leave Oase without spending way too much money but being happy to do so.
For me the only two clubs that can really be compared are Oase & Artemis. These clubs are obviously in the same league and aiming for the same target audience albeit in different geographical markets.
Now I must confess that yesterday afternoon, as I was considering this post, I came to the conclusion that to do it up right I really had to make a visit to Artemis. Purely in the interest of research you understand. Please don’t thank me. Someone has to do this job;-))
So despite being a wee bit underfunded off I went, paid my admission and spent the afternoon/evening. The details I will leave for a possible Artemis thread posting. But I will say that I came away from the evening a bit in distress. Artemis is my home club. I have had some good times there. But with Oase so fresh in my mind & memory Artemis failed on almost every level there is.
Now I will say that I like the set up of Artemis. I like the bar area and the energy seems to flow right allowing hook ups and meeting the ladies in an easy manner. And I also love having the downstairs bar in which to relax and lay low. Artemis has the mood of a gentlemen’s club that allows hot women in to circulate and entertain. And the upstairs rooms, 95% of them anyway (room 14 sucks) are much better than the average Oase room.
But I also have to say that the women, both in looks and manner were a shock to me last night. I found the women to be so aggressive and lacking in any semblance of the grace and the artistry of the pick up.
Do you want to go upstairs & fuck? No! Then fuck off! Was the order of the day.
I really did try last night to engage some of the more interesting women in a bit of flirtation & fun. But to no avail. Just to illustrate I will describe one such encounter with an attractive, slim dark haired 20 something German woman-Mina.
I saw and felt interested in Mina right away. The bar was empty (it was around 15:30) A smile was exchanged across the room and soon she found an excuse to drift over. So far so good. Our contact was also nice with me holding her close at the bar and a gentle slightly teasing exchange took place. After maybe 10 minutes I explained to her that I had just arrived and I wanted some sauna time and a bit of reading downstairs. She explained that she would be there until 20:00. Fine I said, I am interested, I like you and we will probably hook up a bit later,
Perfect. My game was on.
An hour and a half later I was lying on a downstairs couch reading. Mina appears and glides over. I welcome her. As God is my witness gentlemen, Mina could have had me in the room in perhaps three minutes. All the poor girl had to do was sit down shut up, give me a cuddle, maybe a kiss and we would have been headed for a room.
What happened? The first words out of her mouth were-Are you ready to go to a room yet?
My interest evaporated in an instant and I brushed her off.
Now I’m not complaining (maybe just a bit) but after some of the artistry I experienced at Bernds, Oase and to a somewhat lesser degree, Samya this fast fuck processor approach just does not cut it.
I did a session a bit later but it was with Nicoletta, my Bulgarian fave who is back from vacation with a brand new set of boobs (pretty good job her surgeon did) and we have a very nice rapport already and I know that she will spend time before during and even after a session giving me a bit of illusory romance.
I do wonder if the girls with whom I was flirting last night, and there were a few, didn’t pick up on my energy and have me pegged as a shopper and not serious buyer. As I have mentioned before I believe that women are sensitive to an almost impossible degree when it comes to this stuff. But I did have some cash on me and I would have carried through with a session if I found a girl willing play the game well. But I didn’t.
I also am aware of the fact that on tour I was on vacation. This always has the effect of making things a bit more magical and immediate. So the energy you attract tends to be more interesting. But even with this in mind I unfortunately have to report that Artemis has slipped a notch or two in my book.
Will I keep going to Artemis? Not quite so often I’d say. I like to think I will save my money a bit and try to make some visits to other venues I want to visit-Golden Time, World even Palace and return to both Oase & Bernds. And I am open to suggestion & invitation.Through this lengthy report I have also received PMs from several ISG members I would love to meet and one (Ortos) who seems to share with me a certain “tao of pooning” that makes me want to meet and share ideas and good times chasing pussy.
I also feel that I have to spend a bit more time & energy writing. I thank deeply all of those who sent me comments, feedback and encouragement both through PM and on the forum. I truly love to write and know that I have a degree of talent for the narrative. While this particular topic that we discuss here is obviously very dear to my heart, I can not help but feel that I can also work more on my fiction, much of which lies wasting and unedited in my writing folder.
And I can now also mention that I have in the past days come on line with my very own web presence-the newly conceived and not quite yet born (there is nothing posted there yet as all my energy has been channeled towards this material in the past week and I still have to figure out how to use it. but soon) angusmagee dot com.
Finally I would like to thank you all for reading. I love an appreciative audience. Not to mention once again thanking Iseeu for his suggesting this adventure and his driving and the excellent tips he shared.
Lets do it again soon!
Regards
AM
A wrap up that tops the field reports !!
Angus puts it all into perspective, the good, the bad and not much ugly in the world of FKK.
Best of all, AM savours and appreciates that which each FKK venue has to offer, all different but the tang of pussy is the common denominator.
Many thanks to AM and our roving reporter Iseeu who made it all happen and we all benefit from the reports on the adventure. Nary a slanging match to be seen.
Step forward Angus Magee and place your wrap up report where it belongs - in Reports of Distinction where this and the upcoming generation of mongers may consult and benefit from. Don`t be modest, man. Just do it. And we await the further reports and tours of AM to other venues of debauchery.
Bravo
E.
Gentlemen, this final post on the Iseeu/Angus October Tour will serve as a place for me to give an overview of my recent experiences and to compare a bit the experiences an eager pooner can hope to have some of Germany’s various FKK. Lets do it again soon!
Regards
AM
Step forward Angus Magee and place your wrap up report where it belongs - in Reports of Distinction where this and the upcoming generation of mongers may consult and benefit from. Don`t be modest, man. Just do it. And we await the further reports and tours of AM to other venues of debauchery.
Well he is very modest, so I stepped forward and did the honors. It was an honor to do so.
Angus Magee
10-31-09, 08:46
Well he is very modest, so I stepped forward and did the honors. It was an honor to do so.
Modest!! The only thing modest about Old Angus is his present income.
More like lazy.
But thanks for posting to RoD (where it deserves to be enshrined IMO) and for making such a beautiful & easy to use presentation with chapters & all.
Modest!! The only thing modest about Old Angus is his present income.
More like lazy.
But thanks for posting to RoD (where it deserves to be enshrined IMO) and for making such a beautiful & easy to use presentation with chapters & all.
Angus, please: When you publish this in paperback, can you include pictures?
Ortos
Great summary, Angus. Thanks for the monumental effort.
Samya is a small club.... I would say Samya is medium-sized. There are many, many smaller FKK clubs, some with only a handful of providers and very local clientele. Considering the competition I think they do rather well on the optical front.
Bernd's -very reasonable entry (50euros)....... a bit of concern that upon check out, would my mental tally agree with the club’s tally.If you paid only EUR 50 entry, you conned them, not the other way round. ;-) EUR 70? BTW, I agree with you on Svenja. Remarkable in the room.
Oase -food is good Sorry, my friend, there's a serious typo here....
Angus Magee
11-01-09, 09:14
Great summary, Angus. Thanks for the monumental effort.
I would say Samya is medium-sized. There are many, many smaller FKK clubs, some with only a handful of providers and very local clientele. Considering the competition I think they do rather well on the optical front.
If you paid only EUR 50 entry, you conned them, not the other way round. ;-) EUR 70? BTW, I agree with you on Svenja. Remarkable in the room.
Sorry, my friend, there's a serious typo here....
Hi Toscana,
Indeed I stand corrected on the entry fee for Bernds. In fact, if I remember correctly it was 65 Euros to get in. As it is too late to edit my post below I hope readers see this post.
And I can also concede that Samya is a medium sized club. Remember that I came from Artemis being my one and only FKK experience. Walking into Samya my first impression was of its' smallness. But this is in comparison to Artemis not clubs over all.
As to the food at Oase...
Well remember my current profession. I tend to judge these things keeping a lot of criteria in mind. While the food at Oase would not stand as haut cuisine, I found it quite edible for food that sits for sometime on a steam table. Again I was comparing it in my mind to Artemis food which is catered and sits for sometime in thermal containers and has lost much of its' life.
So perhaps not good but certainly (IMHO) not bad.
Regards
AM
Girls - if you don't carry your camera/cell phone with camera around in public but ask the girl if she will allow you to take a picture (including/excluding her faced) in the room - that should be OK in all the clubs.
Club - running around with your phone will cause trouble in clubs like Palace or FKK World - they are very strict because they are afraid that you do take pictures of girls and/or guests. Oase on the other side doesn't give a damn if you use your cell phone in the garden - all girls/guests do that, even inside there's no issue carrying you phone around. I do quite often do business calls or emails in the garden.
HB
I wrote right now my first report in Augsburg thread and thanks for all the infos about camera in FKK, but the problem in Cola is that you do not dress bathrobe, as I thought, with a pocket where to put camera, but a simple towel, so no photo as where I can hide camera to take photos of the girl in the bedroom ? LOL
Gentlemen, this final post on the Iseeu/Angus October Tour
AMAM what an epic report !! Great inspiration as I'm currently on "tour" in Berlin and visited Artemis over the last 2 days/nights (reports to follow)
Maybe even enough inspiration to make a third visit in as many days again tonight.
If anyone's interesting in hooking up tonight at Artemis drop me a note
Hi,
Can someone help me find the nearesr FKK or club near Munich or in the way from Munich to Insbruck Austria?
Hi,
Can someone help me find the nearesr FKK or club near Munich or in the way from Munich to Insbruck Austria?
The 2 worthwhile FKK clubs in Bavaria are north of Munich at Augsburg (Colosseum) and Ingolstadt (Hawaii).
Depending on what route you take to IBK in Austria you can visit Casa Bianca (Innsbruck), La Villa (Woergl) or Atlantis (Kufstein).
This is a little off topic. For those of you who would like to take a trip to "nearby" cities, there is an extensive bus network across from the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof. There are buses to Poland, Romania, Prague, Amsterdam, Brussels. A cheap, but slow, way to get to other mongering cities, or just for sightseeing.
Rufus T Firefly
11-07-09, 04:48
This is a little off topic. For those of you who would like to take a trip to "nearby" cities, there is an extensive bus network across from the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof. There are buses to Poland, Romania, Prague, Amsterdam, Brussels. A cheap, but slow, way to get to other mongering cities, or just for sightseeing.
Are these buses much cheaper than taking a slow (non-IC) train ? If the prices and travel time is roughly the same, I would much rather be on the train but I'm very interested in learning more about choices.
I think travel means and costs are on topic.
Rufus
Angus Magee
11-07-09, 05:21
Are these buses much cheaper than taking a slow (non-IC) train ? If the prices and travel time is roughly the same, I would much rather be on the train but I'm very interested in learning more about choices.
I think travel means and costs are on topic.
Rufus
You have to know that Angus knows a thing or two about cheap travel. I have bummed around Europe on peanuts in the past.
My experience with busses is that they can be very cheap but still you have to buy ahead to get the cheapest price and this cancels the main selling point for me which is spontaneity of travel.
Normal prices are about the same as a slow train. And these days even a discount air line can be cheaper than the bus. I am not sure why people take the bus except it is the most anonymous way to travel.
The 2 worthwhile FKK clubs in Bavaria are north of Munich at Augsburg (Colosseum) and Ingolstadt (Hawaii).
Depending on what route you take to IBK in Austria you can visit Casa Bianca (Innsbruck), La Villa (Woergl) or Atlantis (Kufstein).
Been in Atlantis, not bad, but much better Cola. Never been to Hawai.
Casa Bianca is 2x or even more expensive than Cola and Hawai and.... anybody knows the web page of lavilla ?!? It is very close to Atlantis, so next time there, I can check it if it has fkk prices.
Thanks.
AM, is there any truth to the rumour that you have introduced the ISG Regimental Condom at Artemis? Nasty tongues are saying that it is hanging up behind the bar at Artemis and any ISG member may produce his ISG handle and use it for a session, then return it to its place.
Strictly a cost saving measure, I am assured.
E.
You have to know that Angus knows a thing or two about cheap travel. I have bummed around Europe on peanuts in the past.
My experience with busses is that they can be very cheap but still you have to buy ahead to get the cheapest price and this cancels the main selling point for me which is spontaneity of travel.
Normal prices are about the same as a slow train. And these days even a discount air line can be cheaper than the bus. I am not sure why people take the bus except it is the most anonymous way to travel.
Angus Magee
11-07-09, 21:49
AM, is there any truth to the rumour that you have introduced the ISG Regimental Condom at Artemis? Nasty tongues are saying that it is hanging up behind the bar at Artemis and any ISG member may produce his ISG handle and use it for a session, then return it to its place.
Strictly a cost saving measure, I am assured.
E.
it is absolutely true this rumor. But it is not strictly a cost saving measure as you surmise-though this is a happy bonus.
In fact the ISG Regimental Condom is a custom made specially fitted condom and is...er...of a size here to fore unseen in these parts. And it is printed with the Magee family tartan which serves to make the adorned member appear a wee bit smaller so as not to frighten the Artemis lassies and give them ideas to charge more for such a large pecker.
So in fact the ISG member who attempts to borrow this ISG Regimental condom must also hope that he can in fact fill the bag, that is if it does not slip off in the heat of passion.
And do please remember to wash it before returning it to its' place behind the bar.
Are these buses much cheaper than taking a slow (non-IC) train ? If the prices and travel time is roughly the same, I would much rather be on the train but I'm very interested in learning more about choices.
I think travel means and costs are on topic.
Rufus
The prices seem less that an IC train which can get expensive when you cross borders. Time will probably take a bit longer, but unlike trains you don't have to worry about transfers. I think what is appealing is the fact that most leave in the evening and arrives in the next morning. That saves the cost of a hotel room since you can sleep on the bus. This is certainly better than driving and seem rather practical for last minute travels. The trains usually require an advanced reservation and a saturday say for the best rates.
Rufus T Firefly
11-08-09, 07:47
The prices seem less that an IC train which can get expensive when you cross borders. Time will probably take a bit longer, but unlike trains you don't have to worry about transfers. I think what is appealing is the fact that most leave in the evening and arrives in the next morning. That saves the cost of a hotel room since you can sleep on the bus. This is certainly better than driving and seem rather practical for last minute travels. The trains usually require an advanced reservation and a saturday say for the best rates.
Your post has a phrase I don't understand. You wrote "sleep on the bus." I always thought that was one of the levels in hell. (smile)
OK, I can see the value in "stretching the Euro" by not paying for a hotel room if you really have to do a long distance trip point-to-point. I can also understand the the advantages of not having to transfer. I've done some long distance bus travel and I'd like to avoid it as much as possible
I'll put this in my list of travel resources. I'd be interested in the cost of last minute fares for the bus compared to RE, RB or even IC rail.
Rufus
Rufus T Firefly
11-08-09, 08:07
You have to know that Angus knows a thing or two about cheap travel. I have bummed around Europe on peanuts in the past.
My experience with busses is that they can be very cheap but still you have to buy ahead to get the cheapest price and this cancels the main selling point for me which is spontaneity of travel.
Spontaneity and serendipity are among my favorite parts of travel.
Normal prices are about the same as a slow train. And these days even a discount air line can be cheaper than the bus. I am not sure why people take the bus except it is the most anonymous way to travel.
From what I've read, some of those airlines are not so discount when you add all the hidden costs or the costs for things which are free elsewhere. They also typically take you to an airport vaguely associated with a city which is isn't close at all. I've had great experiences with Air Berlin. Reasonable cost, real seat assignments, and no "cattle stampede" at the gate. The staff are very courteous and helpful. OK, maybe these aspects are the ones I don't want to be spontaneous or serendipitous.
Rufus
Angus Magee
11-08-09, 09:52
Spontaneity and serendipity are among my favorite parts of travel.
From what I've read, some of those airlines are not so discount when you add all the hidden costs or the costs for things which are free elsewhere. They also typically take you to an airport vaguely associated with a city which is isn't close at all. I've had great experiences with Air Berlin. Reasonable cost, real seat assignments, and no "cattle stampede" at the gate. The staff are very courteous and helpful. OK, maybe these aspects are the ones I don't want to be spontaneous or serendipitous.
Rufus
Well for me busses have a certain nostalgia. In my youth I traveled by bus extensively in all parts of the world and had some hellish experiences. But then the hardship of bus travel can also be part of the charm with the right attitude.
By flying over a country you certainly miss the flavor of the country. Like the time I shared a bus ride with a three meter dead Sturgeon (the fish) that a fellow passenger had along for the ride as baggage....
Now a days I have to say I prefer a bit more comfort unless price is a major factor. I mean I figure if I am spending 300-400 euros on a single FKK evening I might as well cut loose a little bit extra cash to arrive in style.
But as a tip on bus travel I will mention that the bus can be very cheap if you go to the station to buy the ticket. The last time I took a long bus journey was Vienna to Berlin about 4 years back. The internet price was (if I remember correctly) around 40-45 euros. When I arrived at the station a couple of day in advance to buy the ticket I was told it cost 25 euros. This is a special price that they do not advertise on the internet and that you have to buy at the ticket counter to receive. They told me that they sell off a few seats on each bus like this and then the price goes up to the normal price.
So 25 euros over night Vienna to Berlin is pretty damn good. Only trouble was I couldn't convince the driver & other passengers to stop off and do some pooning on the way through the Czech Republic:-((
Thinking quite far ahead, next Spring actually, I'm wondering if anyone has ever done a bike tour, club to club. And, if so, if there exists a route guide, cue sheets and the like.
What I envision is, z.B., a week's tour, taking in 4-5 clubs, riding 50-100 km per day, possibly starting in the Lahn Valley at Marburg, riding to World, then Oase, then I'd need some help. Or is there a more suitable (for logistical purposes), more scenic area?
And, at the same time, I'm wondering if there are others who might be interested in going along for the ride.
Angus Magee
11-08-09, 14:43
Thinking quite far ahead, next Spring actually, I'm wondering if anyone has ever done a bike tour, club to club. And, if so, if there exists a route guide, cue sheets and the like.
What I envision is, z.B., a week's tour, taking in 4-5 clubs, riding 50-100 km per day, possibly starting in the Lahn Valley at Marburg, riding to World, then Oase, then I'd need some help. Or is there a more suitable (for logistical purposes), more scenic area?
And, at the same time, I'm wondering if there are others who might be interested in going along for the ride.
Interesting idea Regnad. And very German;-))
I don't know anything personally but I have a friend who might. It may take a bit but I will ask and if I have anything to report will post it here in a few days.
Old Angus could use a bit of getting in shape next summer along with his usual Zimmer calisthenics.
Gotta tell ya Regnad.
When I'm visiting the FKK clubs, it's not bikes I'm thinkin of riding!
CD
Thinking quite far ahead, next Spring actually, I'm wondering if anyone has ever done a bike tour, club to club. And, if so, if there exists a route guide, cue sheets and the like.
What I envision is, z.B., a week's tour, taking in 4-5 clubs, riding 50-100 km per day, possibly starting in the Lahn Valley at Marburg, riding to World, then Oase, then I'd need some help. Or is there a more suitable (for logistical purposes), more scenic area?
And, at the same time, I'm wondering if there are others who might be interested in going along for the ride.
Interesting idea Regnad. And very German;-))
I don't know anything personally but I have a friend who might. It may take a bit but I will ask and if I have anything to report will post it here in a few days.
Old Angus could use a bit of getting in shape next summer along with his usual Zimmer calisthenics.
May be time to hit the spinning classes, Angus. I've found a route that looks about perfect. Starting from Marburg to World on day 1, on to Oase for day 2, Frankfurt and (perhaps) Palace on day 3. From there, the route goes toward Darmstadt and, for me, uncharted waters. Night and Day in Buerstadt? Feigenblatt in Worms?
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Darmstadt-Marburg
This whole route is 133 km, or four very leisurely days, but one must save some energy for the ladies.
Travelerb69
11-08-09, 23:24
Regnad,
one forum member here, Willem2, who is also one of the administrators of the Dutch forum, once announced a bike tour, he did it, you can contact him for more info.
May be time to hit the spinning classes, Angus. I've found a route that looks about perfect. Starting from Marburg to World on day 1, on to Oase for day 2, Frankfurt and (perhaps) Palace on day 3. From there, the route goes toward Darmstadt and, for me, uncharted waters. Night and Day in Buerstadt? Feigenblatt in Worms?
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Darmstadt-Marburg
This whole route is 133 km, or four very leisurely days, but one must save some energy for the ladies.
Anybody knows if and when, Palace, World and Oase are closed from 23 till 27 december ?
Thanks in advance.
Anybody knows if and when, Palace, World and Oase are closed from 23 till 27 december ?
Thanks in advance.
Usually these clubs are closed Dec 24the and open late, like 4 or 6 PM on Dec 25. Open regular hours all other days. FKK World website says this.
Same thing New Years (Sylvester). Closed Dec 31 and open 5 PM Jan 1.
beffen
Usually these clubs are closed Dec 24the and open late, like 4 or 6 PM on Dec 25. Open regular hours all other days. FKK World website says this.
Same thing New Years (Sylvester). Closed Dec 31 and open 5 PM Jan 1.
beffen
Most clubs are typical closed Christmas Evening (December 24). Some are open First and Second day of Christmas (December 25 and 26).
If I remember well Oase is closed First Christmas Day but I am not sure. I know PHG and GT are open both Christmas Days. w.r.t. FKK world that is indeed the info on the website.
Do not expect then a lot of girls ofcourse. Last year December 23 I was in Oase and I think there were about 40 girls present.
Remember in Europa we have Christmas evening and the First and Second day of Christmas which are both public holidays. December 24 is not a public Holiday but mosts shops will be closed after 5 PM. New years day is also a public holiday. December 31 not but then also most shops will be closed after 5 PM.
Big30
Regnad,
one forum member here, Willem2, who is also one of the administrators of the Dutch forum, once announced a bike tour, he did it, you can contact him for more info.
That is correct! He did it in 2008 but not in Hessen but in Nord Rhein Westfalen visiting there the most major Clubs like GT, VV and PHG.
I remember we met then in happy, I was dry just getting out of my car Willem2, was soaked to the skin because of the heavy rain :-).
A bike tour in NRW is not that much of a challenge. Hessen is more interesting because of the hills, both for a race and Mountain Bike.
If you are a bike fan, then not far from Oase you will finf the Feldberg not a real mountain but a nice area. Actually part of a famous Bike Classic "Rundum den Henniger Turm" starting and finishing in Frankfurt (this info is only for the race bike fans!).
Big30
Rufus T Firefly
11-09-09, 07:43
Well for me busses have a certain nostalgia. In my youth I traveled by bus extensively in all parts of the world and had some hellish experiences. But then the hardship of bus travel can also be part of the charm with the right attitude.
By flying over a country you certainly miss the flavor of the country. Like the time I shared a bus ride with a three meter dead Sturgeon (the fish) that a fellow passenger had along for the ride as baggage....
But as a tip on bus travel I will mention that the bus can be very cheap if you go to the station to buy the ticket. The last time I took a long bus journey was Vienna to Berlin about 4 years back. The internet price was (if I remember correctly) around 40-45 euros.
Thank you Angus and Akibono,
I did a little investigating regarding bus travel, focusing on the connections out of Frankfurt aM and Wien. I will definitely keep this in mind if I need to make a quick trip between cities and save some money (if the ticket is bought in advance).
My personal preference is to travel by rail. I like seeing the countryside and urban areas. I can usually save some money by taking the RE and RB trains, plus using the special Länder tickets. As Akibono points out, this usually means having to change trains, often multiple times.
I normally wouldn't fly within Europe but a couple of years ago I had to quickly travel outside Germany. In this case, airline travel was really required as, after much investigation, the rail travel on the fastest trains would have taken too long.
Rufus
Charlie 123
11-09-09, 21:07
Hi,
Afetr a dozen or more visits to Artemis, I have been getting a little bored of the place in recent months. In October I checked out Oase and FKK Palace in Frankfurt and enjoyed them both.
Next week I will be spending a couple of days in Germany again and I'd like to try out another club (s). I have a meeting in Berlin on Tuesday, which means that I don't really want to trek south to Bayern. I'd prefer to stay in the north of the country. I also need to find an FKK club that is not tooooo far from an airport to get back to the UK.
Possible cities in contention are, therefore, Dusseldorf, Dortmund, Hamburg, Koln etc.
I prefer larger establishments with extensive facilities, hygenic changing areas and a wide selection of girls (cost immaterial). Who is going to be kind enough to suggest for me the next stop on my nationwide FKK tour, now that I've got Artemis, Oase and Palace under my belt. All (informed) suggestions gratefully received
Cheers
Charlie
Hi,
Possible cities in contention are, therefore, Dusseldorf, Dortmund, Hamburg, Koln etc.
I prefer larger establishments with extensive facilities, hygenic changing areas and a wide selection of girls (cost immaterial). Who is going to be kind enough to suggest for me the next stop on my nationwide FKK tour, now that I've got Artemis, Oase and Palace under my belt. All (informed) suggestions gratefully received
Cheers
Charlie
I am responding to your question from the Oase thread here, because it fits better:
You don't have to be Einstein to bring GT to the top of your list of clubs to try based on the criteria you list. Not too far from an airport (D-dorf), very clean and best of all: Possibly the best day to day line-up in FKKland. Problem: If you go there you may never leave! It is not the easiest to get to via public transport, so you really should do it with a car. If you do get a car, you are not too far from PHG/VV and/or LR. These clubs can be more hit or miss than GT in terms of line up however, and VV has its own problems in other respects (see that thread for more info.).
One club getting good buzz these days is Samya in Koln, and it is public transportation friendly.
World is, as we said, a top contender, but it is not so easy to get to. Maybe leave that one for another time...
Ortos
I am responding to your question from the Oase thread here, because it fits better:
You don't have to be Einstein to bring GT to the top of your list of clubs to try based on the criteria you list. Not too far from an airport (D-dorf), very clean and best of all: Possibly the best day to day line-up in FKKland. Problem: If you go there you may never leave! It is not the easiest to get to via public transport, so you really should do it with a car. If you do get a car, you are not too far from PHG/VV and/or LR. These clubs can be more hit or miss than GT in terms of line up however, and VV has its own problems in other respects (see that thread for more info.).
One club getting good buzz these days is Samya in Koln, and it is public transportation friendly.
World is, as we said, a top contender, but it is not so easy to get to. Maybe leave that one for another time...
Ortos
Agree with Ortos. Based on your criteria GT fits the bill, although it is 35-40 minutes driving time to DUS airport and isn't really doable if you're on a tight schedule via public transportation. LR is much closer to DUS (about 15 minutes) but isn't as large and can't compete with GT's varied lineup.
As Ortos also said another option is Samya which is about a 10 minute drive to Bonn- Cologne airport, is accessible via public transportation, is a clean well-run venue and has decent varied lineup, although certainly not on GT's level.
Charlie 123
11-11-09, 11:35
Thanks for your replies, guys. I have decided to attempt a whistle-stop tour of all 3 of your recommendations, namely GT, LR and Samya over a 24 hour period next week.
I'll be sure to post my findings when I have completed my research.
Best.
Charlie
Dain Bramg
11-13-09, 18:19
Any suggestions for a quick trip from France?
FKK Club 214 or even a Partytreff?
Merci!
DB
I will be astounded Charlie if you do all three clubs in a 24 hour period. Your attitude is very North American. Kinda like I have 7 days vacation and in those seven days I'm going to visit Paris, Rome, Berlin, Vienna and London. You may actually touch down in all cities put you will not get an opprtunity to soak up the atmosphere or simply enjoy what each place has to offer. In the same way you plan on visiting three FKKs in 24 hours! Sounds crazy! Go to the best one (I. E. GoldenTime) and see how you get on there. You might like it so much, you may decide to stay there or go back the next day. What I am saying is, better to enjoy one great FKK than to feel like you must see three FKKs just for the sake of seeing three FKKs. Personally, I like to spend a whole day in any of these places. Trapsing around from one location to another in a short time frame does not appeal to me. Anyway, whatever you decide. ENJOY!
CD
Thanks for your replies, guys. I have decided to attempt a whistle-stop tour of all 3 of your recommendations, namely GT, LR and Samya over a 24 hour period next week.
I'll be sure to post my findings when I have completed my research.
Best.
Charlie
Any suggestions for a quick trip from France?
FKK Club 214 or even a Partytreff?
Merci!
DBI can't speak from first-hand experience, but FKK Club 214 Saarbrücken seems to be enjoying a bit of a renaissance, so why not try it? And report please.
Only 30kms along the A6 is FKK Neunkirchen, which at this time of year has a goodish line-up. I'll be there next week. There's a thread of this forum dedicated to this one.
There is also a new club in Lebach, FKK Quovadis, also nearby, but its reputation is poor and I've never been there. It may even have closed.
If you want a good brothel, try
http://www.villa-venezia.de/de/start.html
No idea on partytreffs, sorry.
Do report, whatever you end up doing.
Any suggestions for a quick trip from France?
FKK Club 214 or even a Partytreff?
Merci!
DB
May I suggest you take a look at youppie.net if you have not already. It is French oriented and covers the scene with access from France in mind.
There are many options from the NRW FKKs in the north down to Freiburg in the south - so where in France will you be coming from?
Have fun!
[I have quoted a French language forum here - if Jackson has a problem with that I'll remove it]
http://www.fkk-mystic.at/index_en.php
New club in Austria close to the border with Germany. On Roemerforum you will find a first (possitive) report. Alternative for apres ski!
Regards,
Big30
http://www.fkk-mystic.at/index_en.php
New club in Austria close to the border with Germany. On Roemerforum you will find a first (possitive) report. Alternative for apres ski!
Regards,
Big30
Thanks Big30
I have just referenced your find on the Austria/Salzburg forum.
If no-one else on this forum posts a report over the next month, and the place gets better reviews than FKK Andiamo in Villach then I will probably visit and report early in the New Year.
I have already reported on Andiamo here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=950376&postcount=46
Does anyone know the link to the generic Viagra ad that used to be on this site? Has anyone tried their products? Thanks.
Does anyone know the link to the generic Viagra ad that used to be on this site? Has anyone tried their products? Thanks.
Akibono, dunno about that link, but I buy from www.usolinerx.net and find their stuff good. Delivery times are about 2 weeks.
Tiradentes
11-22-09, 05:15
Are the FKK clubs open in the week between christmas and new year eve, including these 2 days?
And
Do you recommend somebody to go there during this time?
Thanks 4 any info.
Carlos Primeros
11-22-09, 06:04
The clubs should be open between 28. - 31. Dec. Some clubs even have some special parties on 31 Dec.
Carlos
Akibono, dunno about that link, but I buy from www.usolinerx.net and find their stuff good. Delivery times are about 2 weeks.
I have ordered from www.usonlinerx.net before. First order of 20 VG arrived fine, product worked well. Second order of 30 generic VG got seized by customs, onlinerx gave me a refund however. Haven't ordered from them since. What has been your success rate in terms of product getting through to you? I live in Ireland, I gather you live in UK? The first order was in a package postmarked from Italy, the second order was from India according to the customs letter.
Angus Magee
11-22-09, 09:37
Are the FKK clubs open in the week between christmas and new year eve, including these 2 days?
And
Do you recommend somebody to go there during this time?
Thanks 4 any info.
In general the clubs are closed Christmas & New Year. It may vary a bit from club to club but Artemis states on their website that they are closed Christmas Eve & Christmas day and again New Years Eve & day.
The week in between it is hard to say exactly should you visit. If you check back to last year in the Artemis thread you will find a posting from me for this time and as I remember it was not bad. But you have to know that many girls will be away so you might not find the top hotties in residence.
But you can still have a good time. At slow times the girls who are there do tend to be a bit more relaxed and not so much in making money mode. So you can find a girl who will spend some time before the session in the art of seduction. This is always nice to find.
Please do read the thread for further info.
Oase and World both closed on 24 december and Oase open on 25 december at 17:00 and World at 15:00.
It suits perfectly for me travelling on 24 and hit one on 25.12 and second one on 26.12, I guess I will have an unforgettable Xmas this year :D
Just a question, in these 2 clubs what exactly do you dress ? Bathrobe, towel or nothing at all ? I ask cause I feel more confortable with at least towel....
....So you can find a girl who will spend some time before the session in the art of seduction...
That's perfect too ;)
Angus Magee
11-22-09, 16:46
Just a question, in these 2 clubs what exactly do you dress ? Bathrobe, towel or nothing at all ? I ask cause I feel more confortable with at least towel....
They give you nothing but a little blue pill upon entry so that you have to walk around naked with a hard on all evening....
Just kidding;-))
I am not an expert on these two clubs but I believe you are offered the choice of towel or robe. I usually go for the robe-pockets are convenient.
If memory serves me correctly, robes are not given out as standard by World.
But they will definitely give you a larger towel!
Robes are pretty much the norm in Oase (unless the club is very busy).
CD
Oase and World both closed on 24 december and Oase open on 25 december at 17:00 and World at 15:00.
It suits perfectly for me travelling on 24 and hit one on 25.12 and second one on 26.12, I guess I will have an unforgettable Xmas this year :D
Just a question, in these 2 clubs what exactly do you dress ? Bathrobe, towel or nothing at all ? I ask cause I feel more confortable with at least towel....
That's perfect too ;)
They give you nothing but a little blue pill upon entry so that you have to walk around naked with a hard on all evening....
Just kidding;-))
I am not an expert on these two clubs but I believe you are offered the choice of towel or robe. I usually go for the robe-pockets are convenient.
I thought you was really seriously LOL not bad to get viagra included in the price of entrance ;)
So far as I am a smoker, I like the pockets of bathrobe too, but for example in Colosseum Augsburg, no choice, or towel or naked and btw the towel is very small.
Angus Magee
11-22-09, 18:02
I thought you was really seriously LOL not bad to get viagra included in the price of entrance ;)
So far as I am a smoker, I like the pockets of bathrobe too, but for example in Colosseum Augsburg, no choice, or towel or naked and btw the towel is very small.
Well maybe a long time FKK enthusiast can enlighten us here but I believe that the original set up in an FKK was that everybody was nude. But I guess that for convenience, and because an FKK really is not any more a nudist club, that towels and robes are a concession for the men.
I did visit a small club here in Berlin that used to be one of the top spots (pre Artemis) called La Folie. Upon entrance you would strip down and be given a small towel barely big enough to cover the stool that it was meant to protect. It was also just big enough to hang off your hard on enrout to the room with the hottie you selected.
Travelerb69
11-22-09, 20:28
At Oase one can choose between towel(the majority of customers) or robe, just ask for the robe, no charge for that.
World-only towels, they used to sell(not rent) robes for 20 euros,good quality stuff, not sure if club still does it. You can wear your own robe if you want, not necessarily white or yellow.Have seen quite a few "exotic" ones there.
Thanks Travelerb69, I feel better as I am not into to be all naked despite in a room with one or more girls :D
Nice you report World sells bathrobe, especially if it has a logo of the club, I will buy it for sure cause it is something really exotic to dress at pools in my home city ;)
Thanks Travelerb69, I feel better as I am not into to be all naked despite in a room with one or more girls :D
Nice you report World sells bathrobe, especially if it has a logo of the club, I will buy it for sure cause it is something really exotic to dress at pools in my home city ;)
No logos on the robes, just plain old vanilla white robes. I take mine home and rewash it and pack it for subsequent trips. It takes up 1/2 the space in my single carry on bag.
Now, they do have some robes with the HA (Hell's Angels) monogram, but that is only for members of the motorcycle club from all over the world when they visit their German brethren at their club.
beffen- not a biker
Now, they do have some robes with the HA monogram, but that is only for members of the motorcycle club from all over the world when they visit their German brethren at their club.
beffen- not a biker
Hey Man,
Must have missed that. The guys I saw recently were wearing the regular ole' plain ones that you and I have donned. The tats are enough of a sign.
Personally, at the moment, I'm glad to see the guys there. Probably keeps the bandidos at bay. Or at least one hopes...
Cheers,
Dedalus, more of a cyclist
Hessen Bub
11-24-09, 08:59
Personally, at the moment, I'm glad to see the guys there. Probably keeps the bandidos at bay. Or at least one hopes...
That's what we call "den Teufel mit dem Belzebub austreiben". ;)
Towel rulez - bann robes from FKKs!!!
HB
No logos on the robes...
...beffen- not a biker
I thought they have logo, cause in Rio termas every robe has, even if I am not sure they sell.
The best will be towels with pocket :D
Lukasek biker, but in the racetrack :)
Hessen Bub
11-24-09, 19:14
The best will be towels with pocket :D
Saw that a few times, an older guy did bring his own towel with a pocket for cigarettes.
HB
Saw that a few times, an older guy did bring his own towel with a pocket for cigarettes.
HB
Old but smart guy indeed, I guess it can be a good way to be spotted by another ISG member you want to meet inside :)
That's what we call "den Teufel mit dem Belzebub austreiben". ;)
Towel rulez - bann robes from FKKs!!!
HB
Where I come from the similar expression would be something like, "Using gasoline to put the fire out."
At the moment I'm assuming this is probably a theme better dealt with via PM, oder?
You should see some of the goofy looking towels (and robes) that have been donned my a few FKKers at World on my last few visits. Tacky!!!
Cheers,
Dedalus
b) go to Avis.de, select "top angebote" and then use the link "Avis Basic"
Having trouble finding a selection on avis.de that says 'avis basic'. Found 'topangebote' easily enough, but can't find anything on that page that mentions 'avis basic'.
Having trouble finding a selection on avis.de that says 'avis basic'. Found 'topangebote' easily enough, but can't find anything on that page that mentions 'avis basic'.
Hey Bread,
Avis.de has adjusted their web-page since Henio posted that. Now you can find the Avis basic offer under the "Produkte" tab.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I don't know German FKK.
Are they comparable with club Globe in Zurich?
I don't know German FKK.
Are they comparable with club Globe in Zurich?
I don't know club globe In Zurich.
I don't know German FKK.
Are they comparable with club Globe in Zurich?
Yes. In fact Globe in Zurich and FKK Palace at Gisikon/Root both describe themselves as FKK.
The best of the German versions are larger, generally cheaper, and have better facilities and a better lineup.
Quite a few of the well known girls in German FKK have worked at Globe or Palace (CH) before.
I was looking at the web sites for a number of FKK's and noticed that a number are advertising parties either on December 11 or 12.
Here's the list:
11/12
Babylon
Samya
Tempel
12/12
Harem
Oase
World
16 - 19/12
Night and Day
Does anything interesting ever happen? I know Night & Day will have a German pornstar but that may be all it is.
I was looking at the web sites for a number of FKK's and noticed that a number are advertising parties either on December 11 or 12.
Does anything interesting ever happen? I know Night & Day will have a German pornstar but that may be all it is.
If you'd done your reading, you'd know the answer to this one. I've never been to one of these parties and, thanks to all the warnings, most recently from Marlow, never will. My nights in Germany are far too precious.
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