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Done her :)
Try Ramona who is back at World. I gurantee you will be happy with that selection.
(gurantee = I will almost pay for the session if you dont like it...but wont :-)
I'm bored and have some time so I rated the clubs according to the Iseeu index posted below. Interesting to compare and I think that this list more accurately reflects my preferences which lean more towards content than environmental factors.
1. Oase- 80 points
2. Bernd's- 80 points
3. Samya- 70 points
4. World- 70 points
5. Artemis- 69 points
6. Living Room- 68 points
7. Golden Time- 68 points
8. F39- 65 points
9. Park Sauna Residenz- 65 points
10. Palace- 63 points
11. Colosseum- 62 points
12. Villa Vertigo- 58 points
Done her :)
I should have guessed ;-))
@Henio, I still like Ramona but I'm guessing that she might be getting a little too far down the road for Mikey's tastes. However Sandra and Jenny at Oase might put some gas in his tank. There are also a few hefty ladies who do the bad thing well at LR who Mikey should keep his lecherous eyes out for.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Methinks both the Charlie and Iseeu scales should add a special Smoke factor line to their indexes, based upon how well each club a) segregates smoking b) removes smoke from the air and c) to what degree smoking is permitted in the area(s) most frequented by the girls.
The rating could be combined to consider how many packs of second hand smoke is consumed by the average monger in an average hour.
... Yes, I think you are tired of the game. You need a break from it, you need a real girlfriend who does it because she wants to, when she wants to, not on the clock, hangs around doing fun stuff other than sex and does not fry your brain with GF or Prostitute shit.
Basically, you have "hit the wall". Did you think it would last forever? Nothing is forever, not for anybody.
...
Don't panic, just rejoice in the fact these places let you get one back on the bitches who ground you down in the first place and sorted your brain out so you can re-enter the normal world.
(This may not be your situation but it was certainly mine).
Thanks for the advice Mike. As you have understood this is in practice also my conclusion, but making up for it won't be easy, I guess. I basically have to reorganize my life!
Methinks both the Charlie and Iseeu scales should add a special Smoke factor line to their indexes, based upon how well each club a) segregates smoking b) removes smoke from the air and c) to what degree smoking is permitted in the area(s) most frequented by the girls.
The rating could be combined to consider how many packs of second hand smoke is consumed by the average monger in an average hour.
Yes...!!!
If I remember correctly,
Palace: totally segregated smoke room
Oase: separate smoke area, not sealed off, (where almost all of the ladies hang out)
World: thick smoke in the air
Mainhattan: as above
Bernd's: very smoky with little ventilation
The one good thing is you are not wearing your own clothes so they don't get smelly and can shower/shampoo before you leave which puts the smoking ones ahead of smoke-filled clubs elsewhere.
Does Germany not have anti-smoking laws or are FKK's exempt?
Angus Magee
11-01-10, 18:57
.Does Germany not have anti-smoking laws or are FKK's exempt?
Germany has introduced anti smoking laws but they are not enforced with much vigor. Restaurants and cafes are mostly non smoking and bars less so. I think it is just that no matter the law there is more tolerance here for smoking.
Much as I sympathize with the non smoker's plight I do kind of hope that germany does not end up like some N. American centers. I find the self righteous indignation of the non smoker a wee tiresome.
Flame away, I'll just use it to light up;)
If I remember correctly....
World: thick smoke in the air
....
There is no smoking downstairs at World
Hercules78
11-02-10, 03:31
Do any of the three
Oase
Palace
World
have free wifi. I would like to know if in between sessions I can browse the web using my iPhone.
Also if I want to carry my own brand of condoms with me, do girls have an issue with that. I use the new lifestyle skyns and find it so much better than any other brand.
Thanks.
Nille Copenhagen
11-02-10, 10:53
Do any of the three
Oase
Palace
World
have free wifi. I would like to know if in between sessions I can browse the web using my iPhone.
Also if I want to carry my own brand of condoms with me, do girls have an issue with that. I use the new lifestyle skyns and find it so much better than any other brand.
Thanks.You can bring your own condoms, I do so as well, but some girls likes to use their own London condoms as they claim they are stonger...just ask her if you can use your own condoms, most girls I've ask would agree.
Nille
Do any of the three
Oase
Palace
World
have free wifi. I would like to know if in between sessions I can browse the web using my iPhone.
Also if I want to carry my own brand of condoms with me, do girls have an issue with that. I use the new lifestyle skyns and find it so much better than any other brand.
Thanks.
Wifi- No they don't. Definately not, I have asked.
Condoms usually not a problem if unopened. They may want to check them. Its a money saver to them and money is everything to these girls, right to the last euro cent.
Hercules78
11-02-10, 15:36
Wifi- No they don't. Definately not, I have asked.
Condoms usually not a problem if unopened. They may want to check them. Its a money saver to them and money is everything to these girls, right to the last euro cent.So when you say unopened, do you mean the box (like a pack of three) shoul be there or do you mean it should be in a wrapper. I think if I buy a box of 12 it's better priced and then can keep 5-6 in my locker or pocket for individual use. Then they would be in wrappers but not in a box. I hope you understand what I mean. Also thanks for sharing your view here.
Much as I sympathize with the non smoker's plight I do kind of hope that germany does not end up like some N. American centers. I find the self righteous indignation of the non smoker a wee tiresome.
My dear Magee,
Methinks this has a whole lot less to do with self-righteous indignation than it does with the effects of second-hand smoke, not only in the long term, but in the short.
Do any of the three
Oase
Palace
World
have free wifi. I would like to know if in between sessions I can browse the web using my iPhone.
Also if I want to carry my own brand of condoms with me, do girls have an issue with that. I use the new lifestyle skyns and find it so much better than any other brand.
Thanks.
No Wifi at any of those places. If you have a mobile device with 3g and a data plane that allows for surfing, then doing so outside at Oase is OK. They frown on seeing mobiles indoors, and it is tough to find an indoor signal in any case. However there are a few nooks and crannies where a decent signal can be captured.
World gets really nervous when they see a guest with anything that looks like a phone or any electrical device. They use to advertise that one could use laptops in the beach area in the summer, but I nearly had to take my e-reader back to the locker room this past August, and it took a bit of sweet talking the security guys (81ers, btw) to let me continue reading the Krimi I was in the middle of. Suffice it to say, if you plan of using a mobile at World, then you better be pretty stealth about it.
I've no recent info about the mobile device attitude at Palace.
The attitude toward mobiles, laptops and other e-devices at the main NRW clubs is MUCH more inviting. GT an VV even have decent Wifi signals. LR use to as well, but it seems to have vanished. Mobile usage is still allowed at LR.
Cheers,
Dedalus, former "live from FKK ???" reporter, usually via smartphone.
Angus Magee
11-02-10, 18:34
My dear Magee,
Methinks this has a whole lot less to do with self-righteous indignation than it does with the effects of second-hand smoke, not only in the long term, but in the short.
You're probably right. I am just feeling ornery and came here (Germany) in part to get away from the N. American nanny state. I would just rather it did not follow me here.
A
No Wifi at any of those places. If you have a mobile device with 3g and a data plane that allows for surfing, then doing so outside at Oase is OK. They frown on seeing mobiles indoors, and it is tough to find an indoor signal in any case. However there are a few nooks and crannies where a decent signal can be captured.
World gets really nervous when they see a guest with anything that looks like a phone or any electrical device. They use to advertise that one could use laptops in the beach area in the summer, but I nearly had to take my e-reader back to the locker room this past August, and it took a bit of sweet talking the security guys (81ers, btw) to let me continue reading the Krimi I was in the middle of. Suffice it to say, if you plan of using a mobile at World, then you better be pretty stealth about it.
I've no recent info about the mobile device attitude at Palace.
The attitude toward mobiles, laptops and other e-devices at the main NRW clubs is MUCH more inviting. GT an VV even have decent Wifi signals. LR use to as well, but it seems to have vanished. Mobile usage is still allowed at LR.
Cheers,
Dedalus, former "live from FKK ???" reporter, usually via smartphone.
Phones at world can happen to a small degree, if, like my Hollywood mate, you spend a few grand there. ITs amazing how much a big gob and a big wad talks. Shame really.
About the unopened condoms.... they will want to see an absence of sabotage or pinholes I would guess, or even evidence it was not washed and re-used. There are some sick puppies around.
Finally - there is a new vid on Youtube - part 5.... I am really pushing the boundaries on this one, as you will see (Gulp)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMs6d9h1_k8
Phones at world can happen to a small degree, if, like my Hollywood mate, you spend a few grand there. ITs amazing how much a big gob and a big wad talks. Shame really.
Hey Man,
Maybe, but I'd think twice before pulling out the iPhone, HTC, or Blackberry in the open. Between the girls, staff and security cameras, pretty much all is seen. They might tolerate VERY discreet texting in the locker room, but they get seriously antsy about dudes walking around with phones in the open. I've had 'em double check my mp3 player a few times.
All that said, there are ways to do live reporting and net surfing if one so wishes. What I lack in terms of "big gobs" I try to make up for with charm, politeness and frequent patronage ;-))
Funny vid! Pushing the envelope a bit, aren't we? Still waiting for Mr. Climax to make an appearance. Or did he fail the audition?
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hey Man,
I've had 'em double check my mp3 player a few times.
Funny vid!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMs6d9h1_k8
Pushing the envelope a bit, aren't we? Still waiting for Mr. Climax to make an appearance. Or did he fail the audition?
Cheers,
Dedalus
Yes, I have been there when they checked your mp3 player one time. Yes, they are antsy indeed, he did not make a call in the open but he did leave his phones on and walked outside when they rang. Tosser.
By the way..... Who is Mr Climax... my memory not too good in my advanced age
You got mail, Dude.
I keep forgetting how forgetful octogenarians can be ;-))
Cheers,
Dedalus
You're probably right. I am just feeling ornery and came here (Germany) in part to get away from the N. American nanny state. I would just rather it did not follow me here.
A
For me, the key factor is how I feel after 4-5-6 hours of breathing the smoke. The eyes burn and the whole body feels a whole lot less like fucking.
I don't mind the smoke on a girl's breath or the taste of it in her mouth. I'd better not as 97.3% of the Quebecoise girls I normally play with are smokers. None, by the way, has ever asked if she can smoke in my flat.
In fairness it must be stated that over the past couple of years since the new laws were passed the clubs - with exceptions - have become much better places for non-smokers to practise their evil habit.
Germany has introduced anti smoking laws but they are not enforced with much vigor. Restaurants and cafes are mostly non smoking and bars less so. I think it is just that no matter the law there is more tolerance here for smoking.
Much as I sympathize with the non smoker's plight I do kind of hope that germany does not end up like some N. American centers. I find the self righteous indignation of the non smoker a wee tiresome.
Flame away, I'll just use it to light up;)
It's not just N. America but two of the biggest monger destinations in South America (Colombia) and Asia (Thailand) are quite strictly non-smoking - even in the titty bars. A lot of it is not self-righteousnous but allergies or health sensitivity. It's great to be able to swing into one of these bars and come out with no odor. Smoking seems a lot more ingrained in Europe than elsewhere so I don't expect anything to change soon - lucky enough that some bars have segregated areas.
Do any of the three
Oase
Palace
World
have free wifi. I would like to know if in between sessions I can browse the web using my iPhone.
Thanks.
Palace has a couple of public internet stations on the floor, if all you want to do is browse the web it is great (if not already occupied by some lady working on their Facebook). This site in the browser history, please erase browser history if you use it.
Nille Copenhagen
11-04-10, 09:09
Palace has a couple of public internet stations on the floor, if all you want to do is browse the web it is great (if not already occupied by some lady working on their Facebook). This site in the browser history, please erase browser history if you use it.But the internet room is too smooky to sit for long.
But the internet room is too smooky to sit for long.
There are two more: one by the VLT's, just before you enter the main room, (& next to Saskia?), and another in the hall leading to the rooms, massage etc., just behind the swing.
Myr.
Hey Man
Anyway, I don't want to hijack this thread for any long, drawn out discussion on whether or not reports should include names. Maybe we should continue it in e.g. the General section.
Agreed!!
Hi Dedalus,
First, I am not trying to "clobber" anybody. I have graditude towards all who post here, even if some essential details are left out... However, if by "good physical description" you mean something like: Tall, thin, leggy and long dark hair, this will be of limited use in identifying a girl at, say, World, right?
Hehehe. You might be surprised. World still has a good line-up, but a significant batch of the vampire coterie ain't all that "tall, thin and leggy" these days. Your not gonna find many of them hanging out at Planet Fitness, but they can be seen lining up at both ends of the food buffet.
A name is much, much more usefull. Sure they change names now and then, so do I :). But names + good details about the girl's physical attributes are what good reports are all about, in my book. I guess I'm in the minority. So be it...
I agree that a name is useful, just not sure how MUCH more useful. Not unless you are going up to every girl and asking, "Excuse me, Sexy, but is your name Gretchen? Man, I've been reading sooo much about a girl named Gretchen who you're the exact image of. According to every nutjub on the Internet, Gretchen sure can wake the dead with her blowjob skills. Is that you, sugar pie?"
Well, everyone has their own style ;-))
It is one thing to write a report and not include the names because you can't remember them (although when you are reporting live from the club when you are literally just out of the Zimmer...and you can't remember a name???).
Have I been guilty of that? I can't remember...
It is another thing to write a report and describe how fantastic a given girl's performance is (or conversely, how horrible the performance is) and withold the name because you want to the readers to play some kind of guessing game, or you just want everybody to die of envy or something. Do you agree?
Now I am NOT accusing Breadman of this. He says he can't remember the names, fair enough. I've met the man once or twice and found him to be an honourable gentelman of great integrity, so I have no doubt that he is honest when he says he doesn't remember. I must have misinterpreted his post, cause it sounded like he was dangling out these great session girls, but not giving the names for some unknown reason.
Yeah..., I just didn't read any of that into his post. I do know what you are talking about though, and I have seen it in the ramblings of others, who funnily enough have escaped any criticism for it.
Well, when I read this:
...I wonder if "my recent comments" are not somewhat justified. But you seem not to agree, my dear friend, Dedalus?
In this case, I'm afraid not. I get where Breadman is coming from. He like myself has been doing this for a lot of years now. So have you, BTW, my friend. I still enjoy the hobby, but there is indeed a "hunt" and a little gaming that has made it more fun over the last few years. Also, to be blunt, I rarely get a tip via this board these days that hits my sweet-spot, both in terms of performance and optics. HB throws me a bone now and then (he and I, it turns out have many similar tastes, and he has probably the best handle on the current Hessen scene than anyone) but I enjoy discovery as much as any explorer. In the end, my instincts usually help me out more than a list of names from the board.
This is not to say that I don't value name lists and reports. Keep 'em coming there, Ace.
Let us not forget there are those --and again I am not pointing a finger at anyone, esp. not at the honourable Breadman-- who either create fictious reports about non-existant girls or who definitely like to brag about their exploits without sharing the details just to give themselves, I don't know, some sense of superiority or whatever. You will yourself recall some jerk named Fred on another board whose distinctly irritating MO was to write reports with glowing reports of FKK girls (and his own Superman-stud performances) but would purposely leave out the names (or give cryptic references that only one or two of his hand-picked inner-circle could understand.). I was just trying to pre-empt this type of thing happening here.
Hehehe. Absolutely no argument on THAT score, my friend. Still, whatcha gonna do? There are some fruitcakes who play this game. Goes with the territory. Luckily, they are relatively easy to spot.
BTW, you should have seen the one-armed push-ups I was doing with Sunny at LR earlier today. Lord have mercy, was I good! ;-))
Thanks for your views on this. Diversity of opinion is what makes us all wiser and stronger in the end.
O
Back at ya, Man!
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hessen Bub
11-06-10, 22:21
What you need is a NAME plus a decent description of the girl. Period.
HB
What you need is a NAME plus a decent description of the girl. Period.
HB
I know some German and Dutch boards where Clubs have a General Topic and Girls have a more specific Topic (name/length/color hair/ etc).
This info is very much appreciated since it is relevant info. In the General Club Topic the most appreciated and relevant info is the list of the Girls Present (clearly only those that visit a Club almost weekly can provide such a list).
Having said this. Yes we all have our different opinions and taste that is true. I also can agree with the statement that a Club visit is a bit like a hunting game.
I believe in a board that gives relevant info for this Hunting game not in a board that gives confusing info or only some general club descriptions that most members will already know.
B30
i believe in a board that gives relevant info for this hunting game not in a board that gives confusing info or only some general club descriptions that most members will already know.
b30couldn't agree more!
also i do believe that reports should include names if possible. i'm just not convinced that a report is necessarily useless if no names are present.
also i'm not sure how confusing a report like the one written by breadman really is. it is certainly just as valid as a description of how the ice in a urinal melts when it is peed upon.
interestingly enough, i met two new girls today/tonight at world without any prior lists, board study, etc. both were excellent. both were the result of a little "hunting." well, to tell the truth, eva actually hunted me down. no complaints from my end though.
@ hb
sure names and a good description are important. but you tell me: suppose you happen to be at oase and a cute romy who looks similar to a reported miss so-and-so catches your eye for the first time. you saunter up to her, say "hallo baby", get a good freak vibe and the chemie is sizzilin'. then, it turns out she's actually not the reported miss so-and-so, but a different girl. are you gonna walk away?
maybe breadman's point isn't to be shady or confusing. maybe it has more to do with inspiring gents to trust their instincts, develop and hone some people skills so they they can eventually present some new dishes to the isg table rather than alot of the rehashed stuff that occupies many of these threads.
plus, some of us enjoy and even need these games to keep the hobby interesting ;-))
cheers,
dedalus
Hessen Bub
11-07-10, 17:12
@ HB
Sure names and a good description are important. But you tell me: Suppose you happen to be at Oase and a cute Romy who looks similar to a reported Miss So-and-So catches your eye for the first time. You saunter up to her, say "Hallo Baby", get a good freak vibe and the Chemie is sizzilin'. Then, it turns out she's actually not the reported Miss So-and-So, but a different girl. Are you gonna walk away?
The names and descriptions are not for me. I don't need the reports on ISG or Lustscout. I do know my way around most clubs and I do feel if a session will be good or not. I might choose an unknown girl although I know it'll end up a mediocre session because of her looks.
It's for others here on the board who do want to profit from reading the reports. And they do need names and descriptions, I'll stick with that.
HB
Anybody know of any ladies 190 cm or taller working in the FKK's?
I have been with a couple of 180 cm but haven't found anything bigger than that.
Who is the tallest lady working in a FKK?
Anywhere in the country is OK.
From an amateur point of view:
For those of us who, like me, only have the opportunity to visit Germany and their club a few times a year, women's names in the reviews are important.
Not always to find the best women, but to steer away from the worst of the sharks. I do not want to waste any of my few precious sessions on a bad provider.
To me who is new to the game, ISG has been (and are) a gold mine. I have had enormous advantage of reading this forum. Without the ISG, I would probably never have dared to do my first FKK-visit.
I understand if not everyone wants to give out the names every time. The names are not everything, but they are of great importance.
Anyway, I am a novice in this area and I am grateful for all the people who write at the ISG (names or no names), and provides me with new information every day.
Thanks!
T
Travelerb69
11-08-10, 18:09
Anybody know of any ladies 190 cm or taller working in the FKK's?
I have been with a couple of 180 cm but haven't found anything bigger than that.
Who is the tallest lady working in a FKK?
Anywhere in the country is OK.
Francesca, german, is about 1,85m, works at Golden Time. Mia from Croacia is about that tall as well, used to work at Oase but not sure if she is still there.
Francesca, german, is about 1,85m, works at Golden Time. Mia from Croacia is about that tall as well, used to work at Oase but not sure if she is still there.
Hey,
Another tall one is Eva at World. Actually a little taller that Franni. Close to 1.9M without heels. Pretty good performer too.
Have not seen Franni for some time now. If she is still working, the I can't recommend her enough.
Cheers,
Dedalus, also a fan of the tall ones
Couldn't agree more!
Also I DO believe that reports should include names if possible. I'm just not convinced that a report is necessarily useless if no names are present.
Plus, some of us enjoy and even need these games to keep the hobby interesting ;-))
Cheers,
Dedalus
Nothing to ad, I agree.
Relevant info OK, but what I do not like is men walking around with a printed list of reports of the girls asking all the girls "are you Maria, are you Denise etc."
We also should not overestimate reports or better said opinions. Taste and preferences can differ. Some like it hot some like it cool ... .
B30
The way I look at it, reports are dues to join the brotherhood. Without names, there is no way to judge the accuracy of any report. At a minimum, reports without names tend to be embelished and border on self-promotion. At the other extreme, the entire report is made up. For those who like to read romance novels and never visit clubs, that may be enough. But for reports to be useful and actionable names are essential. That said, continued membership requires that the readers use good judgment and discression with the information.
Walking around with reports, mentioning the forum to the girls, and outing posters should be grounds for dismissal.
That being said, reports should only be used as a guide. YMMV and it is good to develop instincts as well as social skills. Too often newbies treat the girls like commodities. Just because you pay them does not mean you can do what ever you want. Good hygiene, respect, repeat sessions and charm go a long way. The same behavior that makes you look like a jerk here will get you a substandard session in the clubs. Remember, you don't get a second chance to make a first impression, and girls talk among themselves. You may be surprised, but there are girls that ask for guys when they are not there-yes, they are that good.
Been there, done that, and tutored by the experts.
Michi Michi
11-11-10, 00:07
I'm organizing my next trip in Frankfurt and wonder if some big club (Oase, Palace, World and Mainhattan) will organize a Christmas party for the weekend of 10-12 December.
Any infos?
Thanks
Vito Corleone
11-11-10, 11:32
Anybody know of any ladies 190 cm or taller working in the FKK's?
I have been with a couple of 180 cm but haven't found anything bigger than that.
Who is the tallest lady working in a FKK?
Anywhere in the country is OK.Heidi @ GT. Around 6' 1/2 wthout heels.
Walking around with reports, mentioning the forum to the girls, and outing posters should be grounds for dismissal.
Wish I had said it first.
Been there, done that, and tutored by the experts.
Tortured by the experts is probably more apt. ;-))
Cheers,
Dedalus
there is no way to judge the accuracy of any report.
Scenario: A new girl arrives at a club and two reports are written, one by a senior poster who raves about her...another by a rookie who had a bad time. How do you decide who is accurate and who is not? You take the word of the senior poster as accurate until further reports are provided. That's how you judge a review.
Another issue is finding out which senior poster has the same likes and dislikes as yourself.
But for reports to be useful and actionable names are essential. That said, continued membership requires that the readers use good judgment and discression with the information.
Walking around with reports, mentioning the forum to the girls, and outing posters should be grounds for dismissal..
It all comes down to how you handle yourself in a club. Girls notice when other girls are hanging around a guy and seem to enjoy his company. They also notice when there are groups of guys hanging together that don't mix well...a bunch of different races, certain guys only talking to certain guys in the group. A girl walks by and all the guys follow by whispered conversations. You don't want people to mention the forum or walk around with reports but in your own way your outing yourself by standing out in the crowd. The girls aren't stupid, they peg one guy in the group as an ISG'r and the rest of you are labeled as well.
Argue all you want, but next time your in a club, take a look at the groups and you'll see there isn't alot of mixed groups. The asians stay with the asians, the albanians hang with the albanians, the turks with the turks...the tatooed guys with the tatooed guys.
I understand if not everyone wants to give out the names every time. The names are not everything, but they are of great importance.
I disagree. Finding a connection with a girl is of much greater importance. There are guys who want 'everything'...and girls who don't want to give 'everything'. The guys who respect their limits will always get the best service, not the guys who just know their names.
any data regarding this one?
Basketcase
11-17-10, 22:10
any data regarding this one?
Boofer,
Read the Other FKKs thread. There have been a number of recent reports of FKK Mainhattan made by members.
Well it's been around 2 years since I logged into the forum and it brings back some good memories reading my old posts and now the current ones in the FKK forum. Daedalus, Wan King and Jackyo are some of the names I remember when I logged in back then. Daedalus, how are your sex visits going these days?
Some of my favorite FKK clubs were Planet Happy Garden or Happy Pussy Garden as I called it, FKK World and Oase. Favorite Swinger club was Susi and Juergens in Frankfurt. Looks like they might have moved to a newer place when I logged on their current website. Favorite other clubs were La Luna in Moers and PT Dortmund.
I am currently living in South Florida and produce Porn. You can see some of my work at hamboner dot com I surely do miss visiting the German clubs. After traveling across Europe and visiting Hungary, Holland, France, Italy, Croatia and more; I would say some of the best sex experiences I had were from visiting the German sex clubs. Maybe one of these days, I will have to make another trip to visit the clubs again.
Take care and happy mongering,
Hamboner
Angus Magee
11-20-10, 15:02
December MIA just posted.
http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=638
AM
Its getting late at the club, there isn't too many guys around except for the occasional visitors who are arriving later than usual. But the girls are sticking around because the club has them stay till 'close'. One of your girls comes along and lays across your lap...and after a half hour or so asks you to go to the room...but not to fuck. Asks if you'd go to the room so she could get some sleep. You get in the spoon position and with some extra towels she's fast asleep until 10 minutes till closing time. You both wake and head back to the main room...no money is exchanged, its a mutual free time.
Happened to me last trip...was an amazing experience.
Forcharles
11-25-10, 05:46
Its getting late at the club, there isn't too many guys around except for the occasional visitors who are arriving later than usual. But the girls are sticking around because the club has them stay till 'close'. One of your girls comes along and lays across your lap...and after a half hour or so asks you to go to the room...but not to fuck. Asks if you'd go to the room so she could get some sleep. You get in the spoon position and with some extra towels she's fast asleep until 10 minutes till closing time. You both wake and head back to the main room...no money is exchanged, its a mutual free time.
Happened to me last trip...was an amazing experience.Yes, it has happened to me twice. Once at World and once at Oase! It seems the girl felt safe with me and I thought it was a great compliment.
Gfe Finder
11-25-10, 22:16
Its getting late at the club, there isn't too many guys around except for the occasional visitors who are arriving later than usual. But the girls are sticking around because the club has them stay till 'close'. One of your girls comes along and lays across your lap...and after a half hour or so asks you to go to the room...but not to fuck. Asks if you'd go to the room so she could get some sleep. You get in the spoon position and with some extra towels she's fast asleep until 10 minutes till closing time. You both wake and head back to the main room...no money is exchanged, its a mutual free time.
Happened to me last trip...was an amazing experience.
If so, you can ignore the rest of this post. If not, I would think it not unusual (not common, but not unusual) for girls to find a "favorite" to rest with until close. This is particularly true if there's a low chance of another man wanting paid time with her.
On the other hand in places like Rio's Termas where the girls don't have to do so many programs to earn a decent living (as is my understanding) this is more common. If you've been there a few days, pick the same girl, and will be there a few more days, she's got some interest in protecting her "investment" which means hanging out with you outside the room.
In any event I do agree with you-- this is a truly amazing experience and one of my favorite things about this hobby!
Markthomas1950
11-25-10, 22:29
Its getting late at the club, there isn't too many guys around except for the occasional visitors who are arriving later than usual. But the girls are sticking around because the club has them stay till 'close'. One of your girls comes along and lays across your lap...and after a half hour or so asks you to go to the room...but not to fuck. Asks if you'd go to the room so she could get some sleep. You get in the spoon position and with some extra towels she's fast asleep until 10 minutes till closing time. You both wake and head back to the main room...no money is exchanged, its a mutual free time.
Happened to me last trip...was an amazing experience.It has happened a few times with me in World, Oase, Golden Time. I must admit it is not usually the busy girls or the best lookers but nonetheless regular girls. Alia, Stella, Olivia, Arielle, Luana, the girl from Ghana at GT, etc... all these girls have slept in my arms for hours on the sofa or spoons position or whatever.
Several girls have asked to go to the room to sleep together - no sex as it is the only way to get away from the main room where the girls are fined or at best told off for sleeping.
I recall Laura getting a right bollocking from Gabi for sleeping on the lounger by the whirlpool. Also one of the new German girls as well got fined 20€ for being caught sleeping in the sauna area of the club.
There have been many a time sitting in the sauna hut at Oase and having a mini party with the Romanian girls there until closing time. Happens all the time.
It is also nice when girls ask to have dinner with you and ask you several hours prior and ask that we order something in. Sometimes we go halves or sometimes I just pay for the bought in meals to the club.
Hessen Bub
11-27-10, 18:31
Its getting late at the club, there isn't too many guys around except for the occasional visitors who are arriving later than usual. But the girls are sticking around because the club has them stay till 'close'. One of your girls comes along and lays across your lap...and after a half hour or so asks you to go to the room...but not to fuck. Asks if you'd go to the room so she could get some sleep. You get in the spoon position and with some extra towels she's fast asleep until 10 minutes till closing time. You both wake and head back to the main room...no money is exchanged, its a mutual free time.
Happened to me last trip...was an amazing experience.
Happened dozens of times at Oase, World, Atlantis, Paradise. With the right girl, watching her sleep, caressing her, her trusting you - priceless.
HB
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Seems I booked my next trip to overlap with activity at the Frankfurt Messe. So I avoid Palace (which I would do anyway) and put of my maiden visit to Mainhatten. My question is will Oase and / or World be madhouses over this weekend because of the trade fair? Do I just get a car and book it to NRW?
The day has finally arrived.
As Jackson promised, the new software on the forum, enables senior members to add new threads to their heart's desire. Just click on the new button labelled "Post New Thread" found at the top of the Germany FKK clubs forum.
I just began the new Mainhattan thread and it works.
Now if we could just get the ability to delete defunct clubs as well.
Seems I booked my next trip to overlap with activity at the Frankfurt Messe. So I avoid Palace (which I would do anyway) and put of my maiden visit to Mainhatten. My question is will Oase and / or World be madhouses over this weekend because of the trade fair? Do I just get a car and book it to NRW?World is seldom impacted by Messes because of the distance. In general, if you can book a hotel in the area that is reasonable, you should not have any problem with a messe in town. Palace and Oase are the clubs you have to be careful.
The day has finally arrived.
As Jackson promised, the new software on the forum, enables senior members to add new threads to their heart's desire. Just click on the new button labelled "Post New Thread" found at the top of the Germany FKK clubs forum.
I just began the new Mainhattan thread and it works.
Seems OK but it is not. Opening a new thread has an impact on the forum structure and lay-out. This function, posting a new thread, must be disabled for users and must be only accessible for an admin.
That some clubs would need a new thread is right.
But if users are allowed to open threads you arrive at chaos.
Today I open the "funny stories thread", tomorrow "Why snow melts" and then some else opens the "I_do_not_like_Big30" thread. I gues the admin made some mistakes when implementing the new Vbulletin release. More specific with permissions to open a new thread.
Big30
Seems OK but it is not. Opening a new thread has an impact on the forum structure and lay-out. This function, posting a new thread, must be disabled for users and must be only accessible for an admin.
That some clubs would need a new thread is right. I agree that this system isn't perfect but it beats the previous one in which only one person, Jackson the administrator of ISG, could open new threads. The result as we all know, is that lots of info got lost amidst the chaos that is the miscellaneous thread, I. E "Other FKK Clubs", which is only intended for rarely reported clubs.
But if users are allowed to open threads you arrive at chaos.
Today I open the "funny stories thread", tomorrow "Why snow melts" and then some else opens the "I_do_not_like_Big30" thread. I gues the admin made some mistakes when implementing the new Vbulletin release. More specific with permissions to open a new thread.
I wanted to open a "I_do_not_like_Big30" thread, but the software rejected it for lack of interest...LOL
User discussion boards like this one, in which the actual users of the board generate and input the content, are meant to be self-policing. It's our responsibility to notify the admin when there is blatant abuse of this privilege, just as we do today, when someone abuses the privilege to post, by posting irrelevant data or other content that doesn't comply with the posting guidelines. I participate on a couple of other discussion boards and some permit all verified members to open new threads. Don't see any reason why it shouldn't work here as well.
I agree that this system isn't perfect but it beats the previous one in which only one person, Jackson the administrator of ISG, could open new threads. The result as we all know, is that lots of info got lost amidst the chaos that is the miscellaneous thread, I. E "Other FKK Clubs", which is only intended for rarely reported clubs.Yes, I agree. The problem is also not how The FKK section should be structered (ad some new Clubs, maybe ad an FAQ for Clubs and one for Travelling advices) but more how To get this implemented realizing moderation is very limited present here.
User discussion boards like this one, in which the actual users of the board generate and input the content, are meant to be self-policing. It's our responsibility to notify the admin when there is blatant abuse of this privilege, just as we do today, when someone abuses the privilege to post, by posting irrelevant data or other content that doesn't comply with the posting guidelines. I participate on a couple of other discussion boards and some permit all verified members to open new threads. Don't see any reason why it shouldn't work here as well.The only reason it would not work is that some members do not comply with the more informal posting guide lines. I do not know how high that risk is or how much moderation then is needed.
Thruth is in this ection you do not find many post that need to be moderated or even deleted. On other Pay6 boards with more members and daily postings there will be a higher chance of finding postings that can not be tolerated. That is my experience.
Meanwhile I opened the "Why_I_like_Big30_so_much" Thread, SW approval was no problem this time!
B30
Last year, I was the beneficiary of top 10 for 2009 lists. It led to some outstanding sessions and helped me to separate the wheat from the chaff. It took me exactly zero seconds, based on these lists to accept a zimmer proposal from Michelle (SW) at Oase, giving her the privledge of breaking my FKK cherry.
So although I am not a frequent FKK visitor, I thought I would initiate this (unless someone else already did elsewhere in the forum). I realize that there is some turnover since last February, but some girls are still there and if I am able to manage a repeat visit in 2011, there might be new girls that make experienced FKK'ers top 10 which would be great knowledge. I just ask that you don't walk around an FKK with a top 10 list in your hand. Commit it to memory as I did.
My list is based on a five-day. 18 girl. 19 session spree at FKKs Oase, Samya, Bernds, Babylon, and a GB at Sersenichin (sp?) in Duisburg. And as such, I will keep my list short, to the top 5 sessions (from my pov) since the ones below that would be good, but not outstanding. Others could list thier top 10 as they see fit.
So here goes:
1. Claudia (br) at Oase. Just hit the right buttons for me and vice versa (with two apparently real O's on her part). If she had spent a little more time with me after session in the lounge, I might be writing from my home in Brazil right now, LOL. She won't approach you as is the Oase standard, but just look for the tanned blonde with the playboy body.
2. Hanna (CZ) at Oase. How she got me (actually mambo) in sufficieint shape to visit the greek isles for a fifth (and final) session for the day, I still don't understand.
3. Katja (ru) at Bernds. Total unrushed GFE session complete with a cim finale and her releasing it on my chest. Whew. I thought she was going to kiss me, LOL.
4. Judith (hu) at Oase. The only girl that was a trip repeat. The last on the front seat in the kino. Nothing outstanding except her eyes, but she was my only repeat, so is deserving to be on the list.
5. Virga (tk) at Samya. This was a tough choice, but it was more about the Samya environment. Like picking up a cute, shy girl at a real nightclub, taking her back to the VIP. And in Virga's case, she let me give her a real orgasm in which time seemed to halt just before she let loose. The only drawback was her denied request for extra time money, which didn't really go beyond the time limit.
2. Hanna (CZ) at Oase. How she got me (actually mambo) in sufficieint shape to visit the greek isles for a fifth (and final) session for the day, I still don't understand.
She is skillfull and she has energy! She always drink Red Bull.
Last year, I was the beneficiary of top 10 for 2009 lists. It led to some outstanding sessions and helped me to separate the wheat from the chaff. It took me exactly zero seconds, based on these lists to accept a zimmer proposal from Michelle (SW) at Oase, giving her the privledge of breaking my FKK cherry.
So although I am not a frequent FKK visitor, I thought I would initiate this (unless someone else already did elsewhere in the forum). I realize that there is some turnover since last February, but some girls are still there and if I am able to manage a repeat visit in 2011, there might be new girls that make experienced FKK'ers top 10 which would be great knowledge. I just ask that you don't walk around an FKK with a top 10 list in your hand. Commit it to memory as I did. So your asking for recommendations so you don't have to do the legwork, is that it? You want to walk in a club with a list in hand and pick only the girls from the list? Seems sad that for 50 euro's you don't want to give that cute new girl a try without asking what her name is first and then checking your list. Do you want to go thru an entire trip without a little variety. Some good fucks, some bad fucks and some match's made in heaven? You won't find the last one unless you do some legwork yourself.
Dude, go forth and conquer. Live life in the moment, not somebody else's moment.
I knew in advance what days I'd be doing trips in 2011, checked car rental rates in November. Found some great deals. So booked even though I didn't have flights booked (not a prepaid rental, I can cancel if the dates don't work). Have been checking every week since making the bookings to see if the rates stayed low. Found out today that they jumped 25% near the end of December for both of my trips in 2011.
I have to conclude booking say 6 month's in advance has little impact on rates if you wait until the last two weeks in December. Even the rates in September jumped 25%.
And ive been accused of forgetting to include names in previous posts...so for Ortos...her name was Orbitz, she was very good, gave me great service and even discounted me 25% at the end. ;-) She also had one hell of a tail pipe, stuck it in once, but all that black soot sure was a turnoff. But it was fun taking her out for a spin, wanted to treat her to some high test but she wanted too much for that service...although she did let me play with all her gears She did have a bit of a backfire, said she had mexican the night before. Downside her clutch was a bit tender from too many quick starts but she knew that I needed to drive. Took her thru all of the curves, downshifted at all the right points. She was all polished up from head to toe, those headlights sure stood at attention. I could tell she really knew how to rev my engine. Once we got going, she knew I was ready to go all night long...put it in cruise control, nice and slow. I noticed her tramp stamp on the way out as I slapped her on the ass...don't know who this Ford guy is but he sure gets around.
So your asking for recommendations so you don't have to do the legwork, is that it? You want to walk in a club with a list in hand and pick only the girls from the list? Seems sad that for 50 euro's you don't want to give that cute new girl a try without asking what her name is first and then checking your list. Do you want to go thru an entire trip without a little variety. Some good fucks, some bad fucks and some match's made in heaven? You won't find the last one unless you do some legwork yourself.
Dude, go forth and conquer. Live life in the moment, not somebody else's moment. I am surprised seeing this type of comment from you, oh Master of all lists!
Nonetheless, you make a good point and you will find in my reviews quite a variety, including Claudia (Oase) and Virga (Samya) who were on no one's list, plus an enjoyable visit to FKK Babylon that has fallen out of favor and gets few reviews here anymore. From a newbie's perspective, however, having a mental TDL certainly helped me from being sharked and allowed time to begin developing the necessary pre-zimmer skills, hopefully for a repeat trip when it can be managed.
I am surprised seeing this type of comment from you, oh Master of all lists!
Nonetheless, you make a good point and you will find in my reviews quite a variety, including Claudia (Oase) and Virga (Samya) who were on no one's list, plus an enjoyable visit to FKK Babylon that has fallen out of favor and gets few reviews here anymore. From a newbie's perspective, however, having a mental TDL certainly helped me from being sharked and allowed time to begin developing the necessary pre-zimmer skills, hopefully for a repeat trip when it can be managed. When I was doing outcalls in Toronto I had 'lists'. But that seems like ages ago. When your calling an agency, you'd want a list in front of you as they rattled off names of who was working that evening. You would have to study the photo's to see who might be the best looker, study the reviews to see if they were worth your 240 bucks, try to see if the photo was overly photoshopped. But those lists are in the past. Why would you want a list of girls when visiting a club. When you look around you can see who's working, you can see who has the hottest body. And you can do 3 girls to the one you'd have to choose in Toronto.
As to Babylon, don't think its fallen out of favor here. Its just a small club that has limited opening / closing hours and only has one shift of girls who work the entire day. Have to ask though. Did you have a TDL for Babylon or did you just go with the flow? I like small clubs like Finca that have two shifts and are open longer and have a reduced happy hour entrance fee. Most smaller clubs have a reduced entry to keep the locals coming in for a quick visit. You'd be amazed how packed Finca is from 11 till 1. There might be 30 girls in the club for opening, but if you walk in at 12:30 the place will seem dead. All the girls are busy. After one shot, most of the guys head back to work.
As to sharks. Not all the shark type approach's end in a bad encounter.
Gfe Finder
12-25-10, 23:11
So your asking for recommendations so you don't have to do the legwork, is that it? You want to walk in a club with a list in hand and pick only the girls from the list? Seems sad that for 50 euro's you don't want to give that cute new girl a try without asking what her name is first and then checking your list. Do you want to go thru an entire trip without a little variety. Some good fucks, some bad fucks and some match's made in heaven? You won't find the last one unless you do some legwork yourself.
Dude, go forth and conquer. Live life in the moment, not somebody else's moment. Your point on the advantages of variety and discovery are well taken but Mambomike said he was just trying to give back to the forum, especially since such lists helped him. (That is what this forum is about yes? Sharing advice so others can have a good time and avoid pitfalls?) I would think such lists are beneficial especially if the same names and clubs pop up over and over again, indicating a high probability that you'll enjoy as well.
Above and beyond that, these lists are fun! They bring back great memories of the past year.
Mambomike's now got me thinking of my 10 favorites, which I hope to post soon.
Above and beyond that, these lists are fun! They bring back great memories of the past year.
So you use lists when you visit the clubs?
Gfe Finder
12-25-10, 23:34
So you use lists when you visit the clubs?I may not print them out but particularly if a name pops up repeatedly I commit the name and description to memory to seek her out for at least a conversation if not a 1/2 hour or so of room time.
Plus which, if one of my favorites appears on a list it's reassuring to know that a.) someone agrees with me and b.) the chance that I've missed an opportunity during the year grows incrementally smaller.
I may not print them out but particularly if a name pops up repeatedly I commit the name and description to memory to seek her out for at least a conversation if not a 1/2 hour or so of room time.
Plus which, if one of my favorites appears on a list it's reassuring to know that a.) someone agrees with me and be.) the chance that I've missed an opportunity during the year grows incrementally smaller. To be honest, I read reports here and rarely do I find the names of the girls I've went to the room with. How many girls work at Oase, not on a given day but the total number? 200? 300? I'd have to 'guess' its over 400 give or take what with girls driving from club to club. Same goes for World and Palace. That's alot of names. I've also read several reports here that stated a certain girl was good looking but her service was awful. Had I read this before meeting the girl and written her name down on a list of bad service providers I probably would have saved myself 250 euro's and five of the best fucks of my trip and countless hours of free couch time playing with her ample chest. IPM ran into us lounging at World. His question as she walked to the bar to fetch us some drinks was how much I was paying her for her time. My answer 'nada'. He then asked how many times I went with her to the room. Told him once the week before and early that afternoon. No, I'm not bragging. Just pointing out that not all is true for all people. I try to work on chemistry first to see if there is a connection, I'm not too concerned if she's on someone's list or not. If she's a shark I'm pretty sure I'll figure that out eventually. Hopefully before handing over a 50.
Everyone here has different preferences in what they like, I've seen guys go with some of the fattest ugliest chicks at the clubs and wonder. But she might be on someone's list here. Now if I were to read that GFE Finder recommended girl A and I added her to my list. Then met her and she wasn't attractive I'd say Hi and move on. But if I was in a hotel room in Toronto and she was the one I called because of his recommendation and I had to go thru with it. Then I'd be pretty pissed. This happened to me a couple of times during outcalls, not to the extent I described above but not too far off. You learn pretty fast that some guys have different standards, not all lists rank the same. A list doesn't belong in the clubs in my opinion. What I do find helpful is chatting up a regular of the club who might have insight on who's good and who's to be avoided. A finger point is so much easier to remember than trying to juggle names and descriptions.
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Gfe Finder
12-26-10, 03:04
I try to work on chemistry first to see if there is a connectionAs do I. However,
How many girls work at Oase, not on a given day but the total number? 200? 300? I'd have to 'guess' its over 400 give or take what with girls driving from club to club. Same goes for World and Palace. That's alot of names. And I choose to eliminate the dozens-hundreds present to a manageable size for further consideration through recommendations, such as a top 10 list. It looks like you use recommendations to narrow that list as well:
What I do find helpful is chatting up a regular of the club who might have insight on who's good and who's to be avoided. A finger point is so much easier to remember than trying to juggle names and descriptions.
Everyone here has different preferences in what they like, I've seen guys go with some of the fattest ugliest chicks at the clubs and wonder. But she might be on someone's list here. Of course, I concede that this variance is the downside of lists. Ideally, there would be some explanation as to why a girl ranks as she does so that others can see if your preferences align with theirs.
Now if I were to read that GFE Finder recommended girl A and I added her to my list. Then met her and she wasn't attractive I'd say Hi and move on. But if I was in a hotel room in Toronto and she was the one I called because of his recommendation and I had to go thru with it. Then I'd be pretty pissed. This happened to me a couple of times during outcalls, not to the extent I described above but not too far off. You learn pretty fast that some guys have different standards, not all lists rank the same. A list doesn't belong in the clubs in my opinion. Am I misunderstanding your argument here? Since the potential downside is greater, lists are more harmful in escort situations that clubs and hence this would be an argument for having lists for girls in clubs.
A little Christmas cheer.
Fantastic! A Merry Christmas to all readers as well! Where and how did you find this video?
Markthomas1950
12-26-10, 09:38
I may not print them out but particularly if a name pops up repeatedly I commit the name and description to memory to seek her out for at least a conversation if not a 1/2 hour or so of room time.
Plus which, if one of my favorites appears on a list it's reassuring to know that a.) someone agrees with me and be.) the chance that I've missed an opportunity during the year grows incrementally smaller. I agree with GFE Finder.
If I see a name that I know pop up in a report or someone writes a good report about a girl, I may remember the name and when I see her in the club I will make an assessment on what I think before I make a decision. The more good recommendations the better since some of us do not get to the clubs as often as we would like. So our intel may not be up to date if we just used what we know from our last visit. This is why the information shared here is of import to many.
Also girls on my to do list that I have not got around to yet will move up the ladder when they receive a recommendation, instead of her lanquishing in the relegated tiers.
I do enjoy the lists and it is good to know when a particular girl is still working since somehow it feels that there is a chance, no matter how remote, that she will be there again when you do make that infrequent visit.
Markthomas, getting out of bed and visiting the clubs today for some rest and relaxation.
It looks like you use recommendations to narrow that list as well:
Am I misunderstanding your argument here? Since the potential downside is greater, lists are more harmful in escort situations that clubs and hence this would be an argument for having lists for girls in clubs.
Where and how did you find this video? There are many types of lists I imagine. You can compile a list of outcall girls deemed only on the recommendation and reviews of a board. Problem with this is some posters have ties with the agency's and want to promote their girls. Tried a few well recommended girls when I started out in the escort bookings. Never again. What I did make was lists based on the website pictures on the internet (thank god for the internet). The better the girl looked in the picture, the higher on the list. But you'd base this on the size / quality / agency reputation. I'd make tons of these lists. But in the clubs I don't have any lists to go on. If you could post pics of the girls (a lineup) and have the guys try to match their names to the faces, I'd fail every time. If you break down my comments again, I'll reiterate 'I don't use lists in the clubs'. Period.
I see these guys walking around like zombie's at the clubs, girl approach's or they approach and ask the girl her name. Then move on without hardly stopping. I've got to guess they are trying to find someone on their list. Are they narrowing down potential loss's with this approach or are they missing out? I'm not saying MamboMike uses this approach, but when someone here asks for a top 10 list the situation above plays out in my mind. Seeing what is definitely a rookie walking around with blinders on, trying to find the names on his list (again not MM). We've all seen the rookie shuffle before, its a learning curve so to speak. After awhile just give up the lists and go with the flow.
Hessen Bub
12-27-10, 11:13
Where and how did you find this video?Check this out:
http://www.cupsizechoir.com/?k=1
HB
You can read about my exploits at Babylon in the Babylon forum / thread / folder, and as you can see, I went with the flow of things, but I did have a bit of a TDL based on website pictures and prior descriptions. But no one on my TDL was at Babylon the slow Wed. Night I vistied and I therefore made the best of the otherwise pleasant situation.
As for lists, I agree with GFEFinder, that lists are useful with limited utility. As I discovered, its best not to stick too much to the list if you find someone that stirs your pot, but at the same time, the lists are useful to us that don't get to FKKland too often (or for the first time in my case) to keep in memory, so that when someone that is on your TDL introduces herself, you don't pass her up based on first (and sometimes mistaken) impression. I knew, for example, that when Michelle (Oase) introduced herself, there was no doubt in my mind despite just meeting her (and possibly passing her up without prior knowledge).
What a person does with their TDL list is up to them, of course. My only admonition is not to keep a written checkoff list in your locker or worse yet, tucked into your towel or robe, or report to the girls that you are looking for so and so because she had good reports.
As to Babylon, don't think its fallen out of favor here. Its just a small club that has limited opening / closing hours and only has one shift of girls who work the entire day. Have to ask though. Did you have a TDL for Babylon or did you just go with the flow? I like small clubs like Finca that have two shifts and are open longer and have a reduced happy hour entrance fee. Most smaller clubs have a reduced entry to keep the locals coming in for a quick visit. You'd be amazed how packed Finca is from 11 till 1. There might be 30 girls in the club for opening, but if you walk in at 12:30 the place will seem dead. All the girls are busy. After one shot, most of the guys head back to work.
so that when someone that is on your TDL introduces herself, you don't pass her up based on first (and sometimes mistaken) impression. I knew, for example, that when Michelle (Oase) introduced herself, there was no doubt in my mind despite just meeting her (and possibly passing her up without prior knowledge).
So your saying a list is good so you don't pass up someone by a mistaken impression. I've never been with Michelle, got her approach many times and its a pretty nice, soft approach. But she just doesn't do it for me. Alot of people here speak of her as their top choice. I'd like to have seen her in her prime though. Gravity it taking its toll on those large C's, she's not as shapely as I saw her 4 years ago. Yet guys keep mentioning her with baited breath. Maybe that's why lists don't work so well for me in the clubs, I'm really more into the younger girls and tend to be drawn to the Romanian and Bulgarian section quite often. I usually get great service from these girls as long as I take from their friends if possible. Get a re-pore going with one of the girls, your usually in with their friends. Friend of a friend in a way.
Maybe its also flying so far to be 11th in line with a girl that keeps me away. I've gotten the evil eye from several hotties and it took a several visits to get up the balls to risk a 50 on the girl. Then end up repeating with the girl. GFE finder mentioned using lists so that you don't miss something. But to get a true GFE experience, don't you have to make a connection before deciding to fuck? A list is a shortcut that I'm willing to forgo in fkk land. You can write what you want, but the only pen I trust is the one between my legs.
So your saying a list is good so you don't pass up someone by a mistaken impression. I've never been with Michelle, got her approach many times and its a pretty nice, soft approach. But she just doesn't do it for me. Alot of people here speak of her as their top choice. I'd like to have seen her in her prime though. Gravity it taking its toll on those large C's, she's not as shapely as I saw her 4 years ago. Yet guys keep mentioning her with baited breath. Maybe that's why lists don't work so well for me in the clubs, I'm really more into the younger girls and tend to be drawn to the Romanian and Bulgarian section quite often. I usually get great service from these girls as long as I take from their friends if possible. Get a re-pore going with one of the girls, your usually in with their friends. Friend of a friend in a way.
Maybe its also flying so far to be 11th in line with a girl that keeps me away. I've gotten the evil eye from several hotties and it took a several visits to get up the balls to risk a 50 on the girl. Then end up repeating with the girl. GFE finder mentioned using lists so that you don't miss something. But to get a true GFE experience, don't you have to make a connection before deciding to fuck? A list is a shortcut that I'm willing to forgo in fkk land. You can write what you want, but the only pen I trust is the one between my legs. Hey Breadman,
I agree with you, and I think we tend to have the same approach to clubbing. As you say in your posts its a learning curve.
But its not really a black or white situtation. Even if you visit frequently I think the reports, as Markthomas says, are helpful. Having some additional information in the back of your mind can help validate your choices when talking to a girl, even if its not the primary basis for your decision.
And if you visit sparesly having a list of some stellar performers, like Michelle at Oase, could be a safety net, making sure you have at least one or two great sessions while learning to navigate the waters of the club.
Gfe Finder
12-29-10, 20:35
since mambomike has posted his favorites for this year, i thought i'the follow up with my own list. quoting my own reviews to elaborate on why i picked whom i did may be self-indulgent but a.) i think that they often provide a good explanation which attempts to recapture the moment and feeling of being with her and be.) as i said earlier, part of the fun of these lists is reliving great memories! though many are well known to the forum and will certainly stand out in a crowd (michelle of oase, e. g.) i've included descriptions anyway and i'm happy to elaborate should questions arise. in descending order:
1. anna, poland, bernds (tall, slim, blonde hair, green eyes)
i've said before that each time we're together we find something new to like about each other. that in and of itself makes her a top choice in my mind. (for how many women can we honestly say this about them?) moreover,
folks, she just keeps getting better each time. i don’t know what her secret is. i’ve done this hobby on 5 continents in nearly 2 dozen countries and have yet to find someone working who can top her.2. gabriela, venezuela, oase (short, slim, black hair, brown eyes)
it’s another hour and a half of bliss for us as we tried a number of positions and i finished inside her doggy style while enjoying the multiple views from the mirrors and the devilish smile on her face which told me she may have liked this more than i did. we caught up on what we’ve been doing and then parted ways with a passionate kiss at the lockers.3. valeria, ex-yugoslavia, parksauna residenz (formerly lina at bernds) (tall, tan skin, long blonde hair, average build)
i remember her from my visits to bernds, and recalled that she was very outgoing and friendly with the guests. i haven't posted a formal review of her yet, but i will say that i had only intended to have a ½ hour session that morphed into a 1. 5 hour session which was only cut short because i had to end it, not because i wanted to end it.
4. michelle, switzerland, oase (tall, slim, mane of wavy red hair which bounces like her breasts)
michelle’s one of oase’s top and best-reviewed performers and deservedly so. i always knew that she was an energetic expert at pse but i didn’t know that she could excel at gfe as well.5. susan, turkey, bernds (short, blonde hair, tan skin)
ok, i admit it: her large, luscious, beautiful breasts were what first got my attention. what kept my attention since is how sweet and likeable she is and how easy and fun she is to talk to and be with.
6. babsi, germany, bernds (blonde hair, tan skin. 40s)
this next excerpt applies to both babsi and sandra.
an interesting proposition
before i went up to the room, babsi stopped me. as i recall, the conversation went something like this:
b:'you are going for a massage with sandra, right? '
m:'yes. '
b:'and you probably want more than just a massage, ja? '
m:'oh, of course! '
b:'we are looking for a couple to join us. are you interested? '
i had to think about it—for a nanosecond!
m:'sure! 'as the above dialogue alludes to, she's a fountain of great ideas, has a very sexy confidence about her, gets along very well with the other women of bernds (threesomes, anyone?) and is so much fun to be with!
7. sandra, germany, bernds (mwf masseuse and more, light brown hair, slim, tall)
i've said it before and it bears repeating: she's the most enthusiastic girl at bernds, willing to try or explore almost anything or anywhere. .
8. dana, romania bernds (long blonde hair, short, mid 20s)
dana (now a blonde and [b]smokin’ hot! )and a great lover and conversationalist to boot!
9. debby, germany, parksauana residenz (blonde hair, blue eyes, late 20s)
she's ex-hof, blonde, and hot. what more do you want? well, ok how about this:
when i first saw her [at psr], she was still reverting to her old schieferhof ways even though she’s been gone about a year: she had found a guest, hugged and kissed him, and then knelt down and pulled apart his robe to blow him in front of the entrance to the restaurant.10. maja, bulgaria, parksauana residenz (short, black hair. 23, '[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)' look)
she looked into my eyes at first with gratitude and then with a certain hunger, that “i want you now” look that compels you not to turn away. so i didn’t, and we found a room. once there, she proved to be very sweet and tender and had no problem taking her time with dfk, bbbj, or sex. she also had no problem staying with me afterwards to talk.honorable mentions go to 2 bernds women: sandy (back and wild as ever) and erika (my favorite dance partner.) pictures of both are on freiercafe. com among other places.
Hessen Bub
12-29-10, 22:34
If I go clubbing, I want to enjoy the day and the atmosphere. I decide on looks ampnd chemistry which girls to session with, I never used lists. If a name does ring a bell. Good. If not. Who cares. Had some TOP sessions with girls whongot only mediocre reports across several boards.
HB
Basketcase
01-01-11, 21:44
If I go clubbing, I want to enjoy the day and the atmosphere. I decide on looks ampnd chemistry which girls to session with, I never used lists. If a name does ring a bell. Good. If not. Who cares. Had some TOP sessions with girls whongot only mediocre reports across several boards.
HBYes, I agree. In my mind I have an indication of which girls are going to be there and have a short list. The big rider with this pre-determined mental list is that it can all go out the window once you arrive at the club. Maybe that girl that tell you she work on that day did not turn up since her BF and her had a fight or her mother is sick.
For example, on my Golden Time visit this week, this is what happened. This demonsstrates how best laid plans can get all stuffed up and there is no point relying on lists.
I had bagged Cristiana (bg) on a prior visit and sort of knew she would be there again this day. I get to the club and I see dark blond Cherie (bg) who tells me that Cristiana is coming later on in the afternoon. Okay so I settle down and wait and observe the line up. I also have in my mind to bag Alison (pl). She was the one that got away from me on my last Golden Time visit and I was expecting her to be there today based on my intelligence.
I see Elena (gr) and Maya / Mia (de) as likely prospects. Even Emma (ro) looks good. Lulu (Thailand) keeps me company and we hang out. Lin (China) makes friendly too.
I bag Cristiana (bg) after missing out on being her first client since I lost sight of her when I saw her getting ready in the locker room. Cristiana had just been fucking an auslander. Okay one down.
I chat to Alison (pl) and find she is nice but the chemistry is not there. I like her good looks and her long, slim body with natural B cups. I fear for the communication element and decide to ponder the other choices and come back to her if the other choices fall short.
Next I have another look around and I see Heidi (CZ) and think she would be good but then recall she gives a fucked blowjob so no matter how good she looks that is a bone killer. I then have another look around and eye up blond Lisa (de) who can suck the bone marrow out of your cock. The decision is getting hard.
Lia (de) , Elena (gr) and Maya / Mia (de) all give me a three way hard sell. That made me laugh with Elena opting to suck my shaft, Maya says she would suck my balls and Lia said she would sit on face. 50€ for each girl including a lesbian show where Maya (de) said I could fuck her from behind in doggie while she licks out Elena (gr) pussy and Lia (de) would kiss me. What a offer. What a visual feast.
I move on and then note that Nadine (de) , Yvonne (pl) , Carla (pl) , Monica (pl) and Jill (de) all look good too. I discount them by thinking that Nadine (de) is not my girl, Yvonne (pl) has changed her hair style so I do not like, I then think Carla but think not this time, Monica is real cute and is high up the list but Jill is so calm and gentle. Maybe what I want in a session.
Heidi (CZ) is making eyes at me. I must resist her good looks. Lisa is acting her aloof self as usual.
This then goes all out the bloody window when I see Kim / Stella (de). I bagged Kim / Stella (de) in a session and thoroughly enjoy the session she provides. We do a real porno session and think of the shit that Omar does in his movies.
Then I see Sherin (hr) and her sister Marnel (hr). I have to bag Sherin (hr) I think. I have not had my cock in that woman in a little while and I miss her suck. So I bide my time and recharge the battery getting myself ready for a rock my world session with Sherin (hr).
It gets late and I miss sight of Sherin.
I then see Chanty (de) from Cologne. She is new to me and looks real good. All nicely proportioned in all the right places, high natural B cups going topless to show them off, dark blond, leggy, tight and perfectly shaped ass and tanned skin. I strike a conversation with her after observing her in the lounge, the locker room and the cinema. I catch her as she comes out of the cinema and we get to talking.
I book Chanty (de) and have a thoroughly excellent time with her.
So a visit that had some tentative plans and I end up only doing two different girls. I had a massively excellent time and some great sex.
Basketcase
01-01-11, 22:12
I think we tend to have the same approach to clubbing. As you say in your posts its a learning curve.
But its not really a black or white situtation. Even if you visit frequently I think the reports, as Markthomas says, are helpful. Having some additional information in the back of your mind can help validate your choices when talking to a girl, even if its not the primary basis for your decision.
And if you visit sparesly having a list of some stellar performers, like Michelle at Oase, could be a safety net, making sure you have at least one or two great sessions while learning to navigate the waters of the club. Hi Quebei,
Yes, having a few recommendations is always helpful to validate a decision to go with someone or not. For some Michelle may not be their cup of java but if the 100% rating is given then guys will give her a go. This ensures that Michelle's good work is rewarded and that her efforts are appreciated. It may also keep her in the business at Oase since she gets good customers at the club.
For the mongers, it is as you say that they have a sure thing in the bag when they are trying to find some good sessions in a line up of 100 girls on any given night in a FKK club. That can be a minefield on who to choose. See my post directly below where I give an example of my thoughts on the line up that I was experiencing on a club visit that I made to Golden Time. You see something then you see something else and then validate it with a chat but then have second thoughts. If I had some recommendations on the girls then I would have been more certain.
Catch you later.
Breadman, you couldn't have made a better case of the importance of having a mental TDL to avoid being distracted by an optifuck or shark, particularly for someone not visiting frequently enough to know better and someone that doesn't have your skills. Of course, a bear also should have a flexible plan B (and enjoy the hunt) if his TDL prospects are absent (like Gabrielle (br@Oase) and Anna (de? Bernds) were for me) or otherwise occupied (Verona (Oase). Or a friendly, attractive girl is standing nose to nose and toes to toes with him (Claudia (br@oase) and Virga (tk@Samya).
As an example, in my newbie visit, I had the pleasure of great experiences with Katja (ru@Bernds) , Julie (po@Oase) , Michelle (sw@Oase) , and Hanna (cz@Oase). Thanks largely to the Top 10 contributors from 2009. But that didn't stop me from having a fine time with some other selections of my own discovery either.
I respectfully think as an experienced bear, you are assuming that lists are not appropriate for everyone, seeing it only from your pov. As someone with considerably more FKK experience, your feelings are perfectly valid.
So a visit that had some tentative plans and I end up only doing two different girls. I had a massively excellent time and some great sex.
Hi Quebei,
Yes, having a few recommendations is always helpful to validate a decision to go with someone or not. For some Michelle may not be their cup of java but if the 100% rating is given then guys will give her a go. This ensures that Michelle's good work is rewarded and that her efforts are appreciated. It may also keep her in the business at Oase since she gets good customers at the club.
For the mongers, it is as you say that they have a sure thing in the bag when they are trying to find some good sessions in a line up of 100 girls on any given night in a FKK club. That can be a minefield on who to choose. See my post directly below where I give an example of my thoughts on the line up that I was experiencing on a club visit that I made to Golden Time. You see something then you see something else and then validate it with a chat but then have second thoughts. If I had some recommendations on the girls then I would have been more certain.
Catch you later. Hey BC,
Yepp, agree. Always nice when the name rings a bell. Still, seems like you managed to have a good time at GT :)
See you around.
/Q
Breadman, you couldn't have made a better case of the importance of having a mental TDL to avoid being distracted by an optifuck or shark, particularly for someone not visiting frequently enough to know better and someone that doesn't have your skills. Of course, a bear also should have a flexible plan B (and enjoy the hunt) if his TDL prospects are absent (like Gabrielle (br@Oase) and Anna (de? Bernds) were for me) or otherwise occupied (Verona (Oase). Or a friendly, attractive girl is standing nose to nose and toes to toes with him (Claudia (br@oase) and Virga (tk@Samya).
As an example, in my newbie visit, I had the pleasure of great experiences with Katja (ru@Bernds) , Julie (po@Oase) , Michelle (sw@Oase) , and Hanna (cz@Oase). Thanks largely to the Top 10 contributors from 2009. But that didn't stop me from having a fine time with some other selections of my own discovery either.
I respectfully think as an experienced bear, you are assuming that lists are not appropriate for everyone, seeing it only from your pov. As someone with considerably more FKK experience, your feelings are perfectly valid. Hey Mambomike,
I remember when I started going to the clubs, sometimes you struck gold, and sometimes you were really unsatisfied, now its quite rare that I have a bad session. Anyway, in the beginning it was really good having the names of a few top providers to look for, especially if you can't come too often and travel from far away.
I don't think that such a list is something anyone stares themselves blind at, but it helps out to ensure you have a good time while getting more experience with the club and the girls working there.
/Q
Basketcase
01-02-11, 21:46
Yepp, agree. Always nice when the name rings a bell. Still, seems like you managed to have a good time at GT.
See you around. Hi Qubei,
Having more data points than your own in making a selection is helpful especially when you know that the information provider has similar tastes as your own. If you read a report then some of the names do stick. When you are in the club and that name pops up when you are speaking to a girl then that should help confirm your selection or not depending on the recommendation that was provided.
Yes, I had a great time in Golden Time regardless that the place was packed to the gills with Ice Bears. The conventional wisdom that I have is to avoid Golden Time in winter time since you are packed into such a tight space but I braved the elements and entered. It was tiresome not having anywhere to rest since there was no empty seating since it was taken up by the numerous men and few girls that have not been booked.
There were long waits for the rooms too.
Nonetheless I had a spectacular time and made some really good bookings and fucked some new girls which I would dearly love to repeat.
Yes, see you around.
Could you recommend me the best FKK in Munich? I will have overnight there and will depend on public transportation.
I don't really understand why Mambomike got a bit of grief for taking the trouble to name his favourites in 2010. Although in fairness the criticism was somewhat relativised subsequently, probably because it was taken good–naturedly. I wish more people would add their lists; it's not taking anything away from the forum.
I've reviewed my year in the clubs for a few years now, and have finally found the time to do the same for 2010. So if, list-averse, you don't want to read on, I shan't be offended in the slightest. It's only my subjective take. But if someone does want to store the names in the back of his mind for the future, it would surprise me very much if he got a bad session out of any of the girls I name.
As always, I have limited my choices to the FKK clubs. Although I generally prefer the clubs, last year as in previous years my best session was not in an FKK club. For what that's worth indeed.
Generally it was an above average year, with more blistering sessions, and remarkably few duds. Very few. Good sign. I thought service standards held well, even improved for me. Basically, very best session first, but memory fades so the order is a bit arbitrary.
1. Lina, Slovakia, Oase.
Up in the love-nest in high summer I imagined myself making love to Taylor Swift. No doubt better than Swift too, no one combines all the arts as well for me as this graceful Slovakian blonde. Memorable: her immaculate slow, soft blowjob.
2. Sonya, Romania, World.
Gorgeous body, hard-working, great attitude, fabulous kissing, Nilfisk-like BBBJ. Only her fucking technique needs a small measure of further honing, but we're making progress and I'll be pleased to finance further instruction (by me only, admittedly).
3. Tabina, Brazil, Artemis.
Roller-coaster PSE romp around the room and in front of the mirror in those great upstairs rooms at Artemis. She takes no prisoners. Good looker too.
4. Katyusha, Germany, Oase.
Feminine but slim, shapely, muscle-toned body I dribbled over shamelessly for an hour. Super attitude and a very good technique. Chemistry was astonishing, I forgot all about time. Unhappily she seems to have quit the club.
5. Julia, Bulgaria, World.
Mistress of all the arts, including anal and trying to overcharge for it (wink, sorry, smileys don't seem to work for me). Really like this mischievous gazelle. For all the play-acting, she is funny, oozes sex, gives good service and responds to your moves instinctively.
6. Vivienne, Slovakia, Artemis.
Majestic tall hard-body, who walks gracefully and stark naked all day. Delicious pussy, my God, just delicious.
7. Sabrina, Hungary, Goldentime.
Sexy as they come, erotic, glistening eyes, she's the only one with silis on the list, but they are well done. Goes straight at it at 100 mph in the room, I lost control completely, which these days doesn't happen too often.
8. Ebru, Turkey, World.
Tall, graceful, lovely personality. Kisses really well, blows even better. Looks great in cowgirl, even better in legs spread-eagled, tight-tendoned missionary.
9. Tessa, Germany, Oase.
Opinions are divided on her, for me she pushes all the right buttons. Kissed her non-stop for about twenty minutes, two sessions running. Great slim looker in my book.
10. Kim, Thailand, Kaiserslautern.
Thais don't normally do it for me, but this gorgeous creature surprised me. Breathtaking, sublimely professional GFE performance over one hour on a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) awful day.
Hessen Bub
01-03-11, 16:52
Could you recommend me the best FKK in Munich? I will have overnight there and will depend on public transportation.It's diaspora. I heard that fkk-relax is a non rip-off. Best choice would be to go to Augsburg (Colosseum) or Ingolstadt (Hawaii).
HB
Angus Magee
01-03-11, 17:03
I don't really understand why Mambomike got a bit of grief for taking the trouble to name his favourites in 2010. Although in fairness the criticism was somewhat relativised subsequently, probably because it was taken good–naturedly. I wish more people would add their lists; it's not taking anything away from the forum.I have to say I am with you on this one Toscana. In fact I have been back and forth ever since the discussion began as to say something or not. MM's list seemed to me to be nothing more than a good natured end of year wrap up and he did not seem to be saying that a list is needed for enjoyment or success in a club. If I remember correctly you yourself, Toscana, had a "cheat list" clutched in you hand the first time we met at Samya. I may have even asked to see it.
For myself lists are of little use as I seem to inevitably forget them when I venture into a club, much like the grocery list that sits on the kitchen table as I stand in the supermarket scratching my head, trying to remember what was on it.
My own list of best of this year is unfortunately a little scarce. I would add a star for Vivian (aka Fatima) of Artemis fame as well as my ATF Nicoletta. Lastly I have to be a bit coy as to her identity (by specific request) but this past week, between the years, I had a stellar hour long session with a certain young lady who is not a regular at Artemis but whom I hooked up with on the '09 Fall Tour courtesy of Iseeu. She is a small, dark haired. Olive skinned young lady who was moonlighting the week at the Arte and literally made my year with her silken tongue.
Meme\bers who I know personally feel free to PM me for her identity.
If I remember correctly you yourself, Toscana, had a "cheat list" clutched in you hand the first time we met at Samya. I may have even asked to see it.
For myself lists are of little use as I seem to inevitably forget them when I venture into a club, much like the grocery list that sits on the kitchen table as I stand in the supermarket scratching my head, trying to remember what was on it. So good are the FKKs that the positives list is always long and the negatives short. So any list I take in is generally the positives, which I would otherwise fail to remember well. The negatives I learn off by heart. I also have a shorthand code, and awful handwriting, so that even if I lost the list, no one would have a clue what it's all about.
Sounds more scientific than it is. In reality it's only of marginal help. Especially if I have again mislaid my glasses in some corner of the club, and can't remember where the fuck I left them.
But then reading the forums assiduously really has on occasion helped me find a good'un.
I'd like to start a new thread here for women (working or retired) who are special or different in some way. Anyone else interested? Thought we might share some interesting experiences.
Dave Jamsis
01-08-11, 14:15
Hello, friends:
Quick question. I know it has been posted before but is there a quick list of FKK and Partytreffs in or near Frankfurt? I am aware of Palace, been there many times and is my favorite. Just wondering about locaitons of the others? Within 20km of city?
Thank you kindly!
Hessen Bub
01-08-11, 17:35
Hello, friends:
Quick question. I know it has been posted before but is there a quick list of FKK and Partytreffs in or near Frankfurt? I am aware of Palace, been there many times and is my favorite. Just wondering about locaitons of the others? Within 20km of city? Here you go, within 20km:
www.fkk-mainhattan.de
www.fkk-oase.de
Forget the rest.
HB
Here you go, within 20km:
www.fkk-mainhattan.de
www.fkk-oase.de
Forget the rest.
HBI kind of understanding of all the scenarios in FKK (never been any yet, but will be in German on March), but what's the deal about PartyTreff club.
It seems player pays higher entrance fee, then includes food, wellness facilities (if there is any) , and sex. The question is the women working in PT club need be paid (or tip) by the player, or just try to approaching ones to try have the actions afterward. Please help to get more detail information.
TIA.
Please help to get more detail information.
TIA. Let me try to summarize the scene for you so you can make a more educated choice on what clubs to visit.
Top of the list you have the large Fkk and Sauna clubs, you pay more for entry that includes good to somewhat great food, pretty good facilities and a large selection of women that you have to pay a minimum of 50 euro's per half hour. You'll find a good mix of stunner, good lookers with the occasional dog thrown in. You pay each 50 and get to choose who you go with.
Second tier are the smaller fkk and sauna clubs, the number of girls vary by club but 'usually' there's cheaper entrance, smaller wellness facilities and the food can vary considerably. You still have to pay 50 each to the girls but with the smaller entrance fee you have some savings. You can sometimes find a jem or two working at these smaller clubs who don't want to work the fast pace of the larger clubs.
And at the bottom. The partytreff type clubs. Its comes down to this. You get what you pay for. Period. Don't expect any stunners, any good lookers at these clubs. Most are pretty well past their prime and can't work at any of the other clubs. You might find a few that are passable, cute'ish. But you wouldn't give them a second look at a large club. But if your in it for the savings, can eat just about anything, fuck just about anything. Then partytreff's are the way to go.
I've exaggerated to make a point. There are exceptions, partytreff type clubs that at times are worth the price of admission. Just remember you get what you pay for. And in my book. 50 euro's is a hell of a cheap price for some of the girls I've come across at the regular clubs. I've paid 100 euro's and have gotten 4 fucks that didn't come close to two girls at a bigger club. The performance and attitude of a girl getting 50 euro's or more is hands down better than a girl who might be getting 10 euro's for her time on her back.
Hessen Bub
01-10-11, 21:41
In some smaller clubs (or second tier clubs) you do pay less than 50€/30min, e. G. Acapulco.
HB
Basketcase
01-10-11, 21:58
Lastly I have to be a bit coy as to her identity (by specific request) but this past week, between the years, I had a stellar hour long session with a certain young lady who is not a regular at Artemis but whom I hooked up with on the '09 Fall Tour courtesy of Iseeu. She is a small, dark haired. Olive skinned young lady who was moonlighting the week at the Arte and literally made my year with her silken tongue.
Members who I know personally feel free to PM me for her identity. Hi Angus Magee,
I saw who I believe to be your mysterious girl in a club last week. She is cheating on you.
Angus Magee
01-10-11, 22:31
Hi Angus Magee,
I saw who I believe to be your mysterious girl in a club last week. She is cheating on you. She can cheat on me all she wants just so long as she makes regular once a year visits to Artemis.
AM
Basketcase
01-10-11, 22:40
She can cheat on me all she wants just so long as she makes regular once a year visits to Artemis.
AMYou can be more regular with her if you attend her regular club. Your description is very precise. Check if I have the right one by reviewing my line up lists when I eventually post them from my Jan 2011 visits.
Australiasucks
01-12-11, 22:54
I have noticed on my last two visits to Germany, that true FKK clubs seem to be fewer in number while Pauschals and Sauna clubs are much more numerous? Many FKK clubs have rebranded themselves as sauna clubs with women who are scantily clad rather than fully nude. I honestly do not like this trend. The biggest thing about visiting Germany is to see the rather unrestrained raunchiness of a nude FKK club filled with young beauties displaying their flesh for all to see. I am not too fond of this new development at all.
I have noticed on my last two visits to Germany, that true FKK clubs seem to be fewer in number while Pauschals and Sauna clubs are much more numerous? Many FKK clubs have rebranded themselves as sauna clubs with women who are scantily clad rather than fully nude. I honestly do not like this trend. The biggest thing about visiting Germany is to see the rather unrestrained raunchiness of a nude FKK club filled with young beauties displaying their flesh for all to see. I am not too fond of this new development at all.I agree that so-called Pauschalclubs have grown in number, as the market tries to find effective service / price points below the saunaclub / FKK standard.
However, with regard to FKK Vs Saunaclub, this has not been my recent experience. Were your earlier and recent visits to the same region? For sure any trip to NRW will be hard pressed to find a decent FKK (Babylon?).
I have recently visited and reported upon two new and excellent true FKKs, Point and First which you might well enjoy to visit. Pirates Park, which I have not yet written up is also a worthy FKK.
Like you, I also greatly prefer a true FKK: though my preferred arrangement is naked girls, but with robes available for the ice-bears. (Sorry I am a robe-wimp HB).
There is no law of man or nature that I know of that prevents clubs in NRW and elsewhere to allow or encourage nudity among female guests. Maybe we should just express our preferences more vocally at club receptions and to the girls themselves.
Have Fun,
PL
Australiasucks
01-14-11, 07:30
I agree that so-called Pauschalclubs have grown in number, as the market tries to find effective service / price points below the saunaclub / FKK standard.
However, with regard to FKK Vs Saunaclub, this has not been my recent experience. Were your earlier and recent visits to the same region? For sure any trip to NRW will be hard pressed to find a decent FKK (Babylon?).
I have recently visited and reported upon two new and excellent true FKKs, Point and First which you might well enjoy to visit. Pirates Park, which I have not yet written up is also a worthy FKK.
Like you, I also greatly prefer a true FKK: though my preferred arrangement is naked girls, but with robes available for the ice-bears. (Sorry I am a robe-wimp HB).
There is no law of man or nature that I know of that prevents clubs in NRW and elsewhere to allow or encourage nudity among female guests. Maybe we should just express our preferences more vocally at club receptions and to the girls themselves.
Have Fun,
PLI have been to Germany two times in 2010, both times in the NRW region, this used to have the highest concentration of all nude FKK clubs, very few good ones now exist. Many of them have been converted to Pauschal or Saunaclubs.
One of my favorite clubs, Cocoon was turned into Pauschal, it was sad to see such a good club turn into a shithole.
Babylon has never recovered, it was a great club back in 2001. Many other FKK clubs in the region are now Saunaclubs.
I went to quite a few old haunts, Babylon, Dolce Vita, Mondial, they have all slipped.
Partyreff Dorsten has an FKK day, actually 2 days a week. But that is little consolation.
Even quite a few clubs in other regions are becoming more like Sauna type establishments than true FKK clubs. Like Palace in Frankfurt. Go to the webpage of FKK Sylt, its now Saunaclub Sylt, a few years ago they had raunchy photos of the nude women in their club now its pretty lukewarm.
The girls have become less attractive as well. I used to see top class Eastern Euro beauties from Russia and Ukraine. Now mostly Romanian and Bulgarian girls in most NRW clubs. I guess Russia is now on the rebound so maybe these girls went back home.
The big reason I punt in the NRW is because they have the biggest concentration of clubs in Germany and the fact that service is of higher quality than Frankfurt because most clients are locals, so there is an incentive for good service.
Hessen Bub
01-14-11, 17:22
Would it make sense to open a new thread with information around the various FKK clubs regarding.
- transportation (how to get there by public transportation, train, bus, taxi, car)
- hotels.
- airports close by.
- etc?
These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.
HB
Angus Magee
01-14-11, 17:40
These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.HBMakes sense to me HB. But getting people to post in that thread, there is the challenge. I mean, take a look at the photo galleries and how many non photo posts there are.
Maybe I am just cynical but I doubt it would work. Ultimately well ordered boards have moderation that can move irrelevant posts to the appropriate thread.
Would it make sense to open a new thread with information around the various FKK clubs regarding.
- transportation (how to get there by public transportation, train, bus, taxi, car)
- hotels.
- airports close by.
- etc?
These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.
HBFor sure!
It would be very useful for newbies (or people visiting a new area) and probably for regulars that keep answering the same questions.
Ciao!
Would it make sense to open a new thread with information around the various FKK clubs regarding.
- transportation (how to get there by public transportation, train, bus, taxi, car)
- hotels.
- airports close by.
- etc?
These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.
HBYou read my mind. Excellent idea.
Yes, providing such info, I. E transport, hotels, etc. As well as detailed descriptions (nay or yay) of providers is, IMO, what this forum is all about.
If such info could be organized / presented in a better way, that would be great, but most all of the information below, transport, hotels, airports has already been posted, but does require some searching. Though regular updates would be most welcome. Maybe, as suggested, a sub-forum. For each club. With general info?
Strato
Originally Posted by Hessen Bub
Would it make sense to open a new thread with information around the various FKK clubs regarding.
- transportation (how to get there by public transportation, train, bus, taxi, car)
- hotels.
- airports close by.
- etc?
These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.
HB.
You read my mind. Excellent idea.
Would it make sense to open a new thread with information around the various FKK clubs regarding.
These questions arise in each single thread every few weeks. Could make the reports-threads easier to read.
HBYes that has been observed and noticed many times! Ad a few FAQ's to this forum.
Makes sense to me HB. But getting people to post in that thread, there is the challenge. I mean, take a look at the photo galleries and how many non photo posts there are.
Maybe I am just cynical but I doubt it would work. Ultimately well ordered boards have moderation that can move irrelevant posts to the appropriate thread. AM, OK cynical but telling the thruth explains why it does not make sense to do so on ISG. This board is non-moderated or let us say very limited moderated.
Yes that has been observed and noticed many times! Ad a few FAQ's to this forum.
AM, OK cynical but telling the thruth explains why it does not make sense to do so on ISG. This board is non-moderated or let us say very limited moderated. Probably going against some rules here, anyways.
I think the general info we are talking about should not be editable by anyone but just by the person that is taking care to keep the info updated, otherwise the info will be buried in hundred of comments like in a normal thread.
This appears to not be possible directly on this forum, by normal users.
Maybe one solution would be to collect this info in an external resource that we could link when people ask for that kind of info.
Angus' blog?
The info should contain just the raw data and no comments. It could be divided in areas (cities) , providing the logistics (taxi fares to reach places, trasportation, hotels) , basic info on the clubs (link to clubs site, entry cost, etc.) , links to the forum, to report of distinction.
Should be real easy even without using db's or such.
For a start, after that, sky is the limit.
Ciao!
Maybe one solution would be to collect this info in an external resource that we could link when people ask for that kind of info.
Ciao! No. All we need is a few FAQ topics, that is all. And a moderator.
B30
Just learned that a friend of mine has moved to Leipzig. As all of my activity in DE has been limited to NRW and Hessen, I've never given that area a thought. Is there any reason, beyond visiting a friend, that a traveling punter would want to visit that area?
I'm now also wondering if a vast majority of the P4P trade takes place in the former West. Are the cultures between former West and former East (still) that different?
Angus Magee
01-18-11, 13:31
Just learned that a friend of mine has moved to Leipzig. As all of my activity in DE has been limited to NRW and Hessen, I've never given that area a thought. Is there any reason, beyond visiting a friend, that a traveling punter would want to visit that area?
I'm now also wondering if a vast majority of the P4P trade takes place in the former West. Are the cultures between former West and former East (still) that different? A native German may be able to answer better (and with more specific info) but as I see it there is activity in these areas but it is more oriented to small clubs and private ladies who do not have hat much web presence. If you join one of the German forums with local threads you will see what is available. Beyond that they do not use the internet much.
But in any town of any size, and even smaller towns, there will be a bar where the ladies are available. You just have to know where to look. As for quality, I think it depends how adventurous you are. Combing these small town you will no doubt find the occasional gem at a price that is a steal. One of the top Artemis girl (now retired) once told me of her beginnings in the business at a small club is a small town near the Polish border. This lady was a knock out and started when she was just past the age of 18. One can only imagine running across her in the first few months as she learned the ropes. She told me she was into drinking and coke at the time and did some stuff she heavily regretted.
The reality is though that the great majority of the ladies you will find in there places are older and more. Ummm. Seasoned. I am not sure, at least for myself, if I would have the motivation to comb through these places looking for gold. But if you do I am sure you would have many interesting stories to tell. Speaking German would be almost a must though as in the eastern areas very few people had English in school. Russian might help you but not English.
AM
A native German may be able to answer better (and with more specific info) but as I see it there is activity in these areas but it is more oriented to small clubs and private ladies who do not have hat much web presence. ...Merci beaucoup, AM.
Just learned that a friend of mine has moved to Leipzig. As all of my activity in DE has been limited to NRW and Hessen, I've never given that area a thought. Is there any reason, beyond visiting a friend, that a traveling punter would want to visit that area?
I'm now also wondering if a vast majority of the P4P trade takes place in the former West. Are the cultures between former West and former East (still) that different? Regnad,
There are also a number of reports about the scene in Leipzig in the "Other Areas" section of the Germany branch.
VG.
I have been a couple of times at the GoldenTime in Brüggen and often I go to Globe in Zurich.
Now I would like to try something new.
I am undecided between the Palace in Frankfurt and the Artemis in Berlin.
I read that line-up in Palace is better than in Artemis; also I read that girls performance in Artemis are, however, better than in Palace.
What experience do you have had in these clubs?
I have been a couple of times at the GoldenTime in Brüggen and often I go to Globe in Zurich.
Now I would like to try something new.
I am undecided between the Palace in Frankfurt and the Artemis in Berlin.
I read that line-up in Palace is better than in Artemis; also I read that girls performance in Artemis are, however, better than in Palace.
What experience do you have had in these clubs? Ciao Donik, kind of difficult question. All the forum is about the experiences we have had in these places so for sure your best resource is to go and read the threads.
If you just ask the people what is best, they will obviously say which one best matches their taste which might be different than yours. BTW, I'm for Artemis, all the way.
Been to Artemis quite a bunch of times and I'll be there in Feb. Been to Palace twice and I'll be back in April, probably.
This said, also consider the following:
- Imo, Berlin is a very nice place to visit. If you've never been there, you should visit it. Much, much nicer than Frankfurt.
- In frankfurt (just outside th city) , you also have Oase Fkk, for many much better than Palace. You also have Mainhattan Fkk, smaller, less girls if you go early, probably growing.
This means that visiting Fra you will be able to visit different, very nice clubs. In Berlin it's just Artemis.
Hth.
Kimino
Member #4722
01-27-11, 20:03
Hey all, I have been reading the threads in here and I am pretty confused about several things I was hoping someone would be able to help me out.
Heading to Amsterdam for a week next month and was hoping to take a 3-day side trip to visit some FKKs.
Have been to Goldentime in Austria and loved it.
I am wondering if someone could offer me suggestions for the best FKK options (distance / travel / strength of FKK) from Amsterdam. I will be traveling solo and have not been to this area of Germany. I figure Samya and Goldentime are my best bets, but I cannot even figure out exactly which city Goldentime is in and where I should stay and how I would get there.
If someone is really familiar with the area / scene and could help me out via PM it would be much appreciated! I have tried to help out where I can on this forum for 5+ years.
Hessen Bub
01-28-11, 09:43
but I cannot even figure out exactly which city Goldentime is in and where I should stay and how I would get there.Getting there via public transportation should be a little difficult, never did that.
You will find GoldenTime (Brüggen) here:
http://maps.google.de/maps?q=heidweg, +br%C3%BCggen&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hl=de&hq=&hnear=Heidweg, +41379+Br%C3%BCggen, +Viersen, +Nordrhein-Westfalen&z=15.
HB
Hey all, I have been reading the threads in here and I am pretty confused about several things I was hoping someone would be able to help me out.
Heading to Amsterdam for a week next month and was hoping to take a 3-day side trip to visit some FKKs.
Have been to Goldentime in Austria and loved it.
I am wondering if someone could offer me suggestions for the best FKK options (distance / travel / strength of FKK) from Amsterdam. I will be traveling solo and have not been to this area of Germany. I figure Samya and Goldentime are my best bets, but I cannot even figure out exactly which city Goldentime is in and where I should stay and how I would get there.
If someone is really familiar with the area / scene and could help me out via PM it would be much appreciated! I have tried to help out where I can on this forum for 5+ years. Actually, as good as GT is / can be, unless you are prepared to hire a car and drive yourself (or have unlimited resources for taxi fare) , I would strongly suggest you skip the attempt and concentrate on Samya (which is easily accessible via S-bahn from central Koln) or, better yet, Living Room.
In fact, LR, which is walking distance from the S-bahn station near the end of the S-28 line (? I think that's the correct number) , approx 25 minutes from D-dorf Hbf, might actually offer a better (or at least very competitive) line-up as GT, without the hassle fo getting to / from the club. LR is the sister club to GT and several GT girls also work at LR. For what it's worth, I recently visited both clubs on the same day / night and found LR's night line-up more intruiguing than GT's daytime / early evening line-up.
Another plus for LR: there is a pretty decent hotel, the ISA (International Sport Arena) Hotel about two minute walk from LR. They offer a weeday rate of 49euros.
So on balance LR would be my suggestion for the best club to target as a side trip from Amsterdam. Your logistics:
ICE train from Amsterdam CS to D-dorf Hbf.
S-bahn from D-dorf Hbf to Kaarst-Ikea S-bahn stop.
Google maps shows the locations of LR, ISA Hotel and the S-bahn station, BTW.
O
I am wondering if someone could offer me suggestions for the best FKK options (distance / travel / strength of FKK) from Amsterdam. I will be traveling solo and have not been to this area of Germany. I figure Samya and Goldentime are my best bets, but I cannot even figure out exactly which city Goldentime is in and where I should stay and how I would get there.
If someone is really familiar with the area / scene and could help me out via PM it would be much appreciated! I have tried to help out where I can on this forum for 5+ years. If you want to travel by public transport from A'dam to GT, first take the train to Venlo (NL) then best is to take a taxi from Venlo Railway station to GT. This is about 20 km and from what I understood this is about 20 Euro (some of my Dutch Icebear friends often make some kind of deal with the Taxi driver)
For Samya see the Samya topic. For travelling in Germany use:
http://www.bahn.de/p/view/index.shtml
B30
Member #4722
01-28-11, 17:47
Thanks so much guys! I will do a bit or research with this information. This helps quite a bit!
Member #4359
02-02-11, 20:40
I am an American in my late forties planning my first trip to Germany (I have some experience in Central & South America). My interests are AO sex, GFE (lots of deep tongue kissing, the feeling of making love instead of mechanical sex) , and finishing with a creampie in the vagina. I like one on one and also FFM threesomes. I don't care for public / group performances like gangbangs, anal, or any particular fetishes.
Given these desires, what club (s) should be my primary destination (s)? For example, I've read both good and bad about Dolce Vita Raubach, Club LaLuna Moers, Relax Lounge, Cleopatra, GelsenKirchen, Club Tabulose in Monchengladbach, and a few other clubs. Also about escorts from Super Escort Service. Can anyone recommend the best of these, or some other?
Travelerb69
02-03-11, 05:56
I am an American in my late forties planning my first trip to Germany (I have some experience in Central & South America). My interests are AO sex, GFE (lots of deep tongue kissing, the feeling of making love instead of mechanical sex) , and finishing with a creampie in the vagina. I like one on one and also FFM threesomes. I don't care for public / group performances like gangbangs, anal, or any particular fetishes.
Given these desires, what club (s) should be my primary destination (s)? For example, I've read both good and bad about Dolce Vita Raubach, Club LaLuna Moers, Relax Lounge, Cleopatra, GelsenKirchen, Club Tabulose in Monchengladbach, and a few other clubs. Also about escorts from Super Escort Service. Can anyone recommend the best of these, or some other? Among the clubs you mentioned I have been to La Luna and Tabulos. Both meet your needs. More info on the proper threads. Be aware that on certain days a gang bang goes on and everthything goes public, but only on certain days. Both offer AO, at Tabulos no extra for that, at La Luna you pay an extra fee.
Param Ahmad
02-03-11, 08:41
...Both offer AO...AO=everything without condom? Correct?
Angus Magee
02-03-11, 09:19
AO=everything without condom? Correct?Correct-AO=Alles Ohne=bare back full service or sex without a condom.
I am an American in my late forties planning my first trip to Germany (I have some experience in Central & South America). My interests are AO sex, GFE (lots of deep tongue kissing, the feeling of making love instead of mechanical sex) , and finishing with a creampie in the vagina. I like one on one and also FFM threesomes. I don't care for public / group performances like gangbangs, anal, or any particular fetishes.
Given these desires, what club (s) should be my primary destination (s)? For example, I've read both good and bad about Dolce Vita Raubach, Club LaLuna Moers, Relax Lounge, Cleopatra, GelsenKirchen, Club Tabulose in Monchengladbach, and a few other clubs. Also about escorts from Super Escort Service. Can anyone recommend the best of these, or some other? At La Lune, the girls are younger and more attractive. At Tabulouse, most women are their 30's and 40's.
There are more girls in La Luna, there is only a few (four or five) women at Tabulous. But La Luna stinks, Tabulouse is not also that clean, but much cleaner than La Luna. At Tabulouse, AO is standart, in La Luna, it is extra and a single session might be very expensive if you choose all the extras.
La Dolce Vita in Raubach, I didn't visit yet but the pictures of the line-up didn't simply match my taste.
GFE is not always easy to find. If you happen to cross with a GFE girl you may like, you just stick with her and always try to repeat another new session.
Member #4722
02-03-11, 23:07
Actually, as good as GT is / can be, unless you are prepared to hire a car and drive yourself (or have unlimited resources for taxi fare) , I would strongly suggest you skip the attempt and concentrate on Samya (which is easily accessible via S-bahn from central Koln) or, better yet, Living Room.
In fact, LR, which is walking distance from the S-bahn station near the end of the S-28 line (? I think that's the correct number) , approx 25 minutes from D-dorf Hbf, might actually offer a better (or at least very competitive) line-up as GT, without the hassle fo getting to / from the club. LR is the sister club to GT and several GT girls also work at LR. For what it's worth, I recently visited both clubs on the same day / night and found LR's night line-up more intruiguing than GT's daytime / early evening line-up.
Another plus for LR: there is a pretty decent hotel, the ISA (International Sport Arena) Hotel about two minute walk from LR. They offer a weeday rate of 49euros.
So on balance LR would be my suggestion for the best club to target as a side trip from Amsterdam. Your logistics:
ICE train from Amsterdam CS to D-dorf Hbf.
S-bahn from D-dorf Hbf to Kaarst-Ikea S-bahn stop.
Google maps shows the locations of LR, ISA Hotel and the S-bahn station, BTW.
OWould it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.
Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.In the Cologne area, other options that I've had good results are Bernds, Park Sauna Residence, and a non-Fkk Teenyland.
Bernds is my favorite. It's small and not to everyone's liking. But the service is amoung the best.
PSR is a newer club with outstanding facilities. The girls don't have the same reputation as the girls at Bernds but there are a few ex-Bernds girls there that have great reps. As with anything, YMMV.
Teenyland is not a FKK but closer to a brothel. It's small and I don't think the facilities are as good as Bernds, but the girls are very attractive. As you can guess by the name, the girls tend to be a little younger than what I've guessed to be the average age at an average FKK.
Hessen Bub
02-05-11, 20:41
Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.Just use Google Maps. It'll help you to get a feeling for distances and geographies.
HB
Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.You mention 'easy travel'. Big question is 'do you have a car? '. If not then your stuck with Samya and Living Room. Another option if your doing public transportation is to bypass or add Frankfurt to your destination...Fkk Oase is a must visit and from reports, easy to reach via public transportation. Im not sure, but I think an ice train runs from cologne to frankfurt and would get you there in a hurry.
If you have a car or can rent a car then you'll be better set for exploring the bigger clubs. Avoid the smaller clubs like Bernds until you get your feet wet in the fkk scene. Its easier to blend into a larger club like Samya.
Here's the only map you'll need http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5
Australiasucks
02-05-11, 22:14
Would it be best for me to stay in Dusseldorf or Cologne for ease of travel to Samya and Living Room? Any other good clubs in the immediate area? Probably want to visit at least two maybe three over the course of 4 days.Living Room is easy to get to from Dusseldorf but Samya will be more difficult. If you are staying in Koln, you will be a lot closer to Samya. If you base yourself from either city you will be in a good position to be near most good FKK clubs. I think the only one you will be a bit out of the way from will be Bernd's which is near Bonn. LR is very accessible by public transport, I never been to Samya so I cannot say about that club but I think its located out of the city center.
The only downside of having to choose either city in my experience is when buying an unlimited regional rail and bus ticket, the ones for Dusseldorf's region do not cover the Cologne region and vice versa. Dusseldorf is VRR and Cologne is VRS.
Anybody know of any porn shot in the clubs or with FKK talent? If so can you point it out?
Basketcase
02-07-11, 21:52
Dear readers and writers,
I was not sure whether to pose my question in the FAQ section or in the General section or in each of the individual threads. So in the end I am writing in the General section with the option to write in each of the individual threads.
I am looking to do a tour of the Nord Rhein Westfalen and / or the Hessen clubs and wanted some advice on the order of play for clubs. I will have 3 days and 4 nights in country and I am looking to maximise the exposure to different clubs. I will arrive late on a Thursday night and leave on the following Monday.
PROGRAM 1.
If I did a purely Hessen club play, the thinking is:
Thurs. Arrive at airport late then head straight to Mainhattan probably getting there at around 00:30 in the morning with closing time at 04:00. Word up from Hessen Bub is that the line up will be not the best and you will only have a couple of hours until closing anyway. Any more thoughts on the issue?
Fri. Two ideas here: 1. Oase all day or 2. Maybe double club with a Das 5 Element in the day to say 7pm and then move onto Oase for the evening. If I took option 2 I will be allowing say 1. 5 hours for the drive from Fulda to BHH given it took about 1. 2 hours last time from BH to Fulda.
Sat. World. All day for the party atmosphere.
Sun. Palace or possibly Oase since Oase has the best line up in Hessen on a Sunday just like Golden Time has the best line up in NRW and Artemis has the best line up in Berlin and Globe has the best line up in Zurich in my opinion.
PROGRAM 2.
Thurs. Drive up from airport to Bonn / Cologne area and stay the night.
Fri. Park Sauna Residenz or potentially Samya. Left field choice is Bernds.
Sat. World.
Sun. Oase.
Any thoughts on program 1 and / or program 2? What would be the optimal positioning of the clubs in terms of order to get the best bang in terms of line up but also maximising the number of different clubs?
I welcome your replies.
Thank you.
Member #4722
02-08-11, 01:01
You mention 'easy travel'. Big question is 'do you have a car? '. If not then your stuck with Samya and Living Room. Another option if your doing public transportation is to bypass or add Frankfurt to your destination. Fkk Oase is a must visit and from reports, easy to reach via public transportation. I'm not sure, but I think an ice train runs from cologne to frankfurt and would get you there in a hurry.
If you have a car or can rent a car then you'll be better set for exploring the bigger clubs. Avoid the smaller clubs like Bernds until you get your feet wet in the fkk scene. Its easier to blend into a larger club like Samya.
Here's the only map you'll need.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5Thank you very much for the map and advice. I will not have a car (hate driving anyways so would not want to drive in a foreign country). So public transportation will be a must, Can probably afford 40 Euros or so per trip for taxi fare but would probably want to cut out any unnecessary expenses so I can spend more on the ladies.
I am thinking of staying two nights in Cologne and two in Dusseldorf.
Thinking it will go like this:
Dusseldorf.
Mon: Living Roon.
Tues: Dolce Vita (or a return to LR if I have a really good time there Monday)
Cologne:
Wed: Teenyland.
Thursday: Samya.
Thanks for the suggestion for Frankfurt. If I had more time I would probably venture further. However, with only four days I think that I will have as much fun as I can have in this area. When I went to Goldentime in Austria I could have gone there five nights in a row and never got bored so I am sure even if I wind up in the same club twice in one trip that I am still going to have the time of my life.
Member #4722
02-08-11, 01:04
In the Cologne area, other options that I've had good results are Bernds, Park Sauna Residence, and a non-Fkk Teenyland.
Bernds is my favorite. It's small and not to everyone's liking. But the service is amoung the best.
PSR is a newer club with outstanding facilities. The girls don't have the same reputation as the girls at Bernds but there are a few ex-Bernds girls there that have great reps. As with anything, YMMV.
Teenyland is not a FKK but closer to a brothel. It's small and I don't think the facilities are as good as Bernds, but the girls are very attractive. As you can guess by the name, the girls tend to be a little younger than what I've guessed to be the average age at an average FKK. Thanks for the advice on Teenyland. The girls on their site look great and I am planning on going there for one night. I don't read German and I can't find a lot of info on this place. From the Web site it looks like DFK, CIM and DATY are all included in the base price there? And are the pics on the Web site accurate as to what is available in the club? Thanks for all the help!
Thanks for the advice on Teenyland. The girls on their site look great and I am planning on going there for one night. I don't read German and I can't find a lot of info on this place. From the Web site it looks like DFK, CIM and DATY are all included in the base price there? And are the pics on the Web site accurate as to what is available in the club? Thanks for all the help!I've only met a few of the girls, but the pictures on the site are accurate of those. The pictures are taken in the backyard of the house.
It's not an FKK, you enter the house and meet the madam (the madam I met, speaks some english). You're taken to a room where each of the available girls come one at a time and introduces herself. You then tell the madam which girl and type of service you're interested. The girl returns, she escorts you the the shower, after the shower you return to the room and begin.
I don't think it's near as much fun as Bernd's, but the girls are very attractive.
From the Teenyland site (via google translate) :
Prices.
All Teenys work independently and on own account. Among themselves, the girls have reached a consensus on certain prices for certain benefits. These are as follows:
The first hour costs 140 EU.
Each other then only 120 EU.
Almost anything is offered, including what the girl of your choice. And all this as often as they want and can! Even come in the mouth (recording) or NS, role play, etc. If. If offered by your chosen NOT incur additional charges.
Exceptions are:
Sperm-swallowing (+30 EU)
-Anal sex (+50 EU)
-Fisting (+50 EU)
All other non-specified special design on request.
The three quarters of an hour costs 100 EU.
This includes:
2 relaxing, sex, blow without gum, kisses, oral sex with her, all forms of massage, cuddling and Girlfriendsex.
In the mouth come here costs 30 EU surcharge.
The half hour starting at 70 EU.
This includes:
1 relaxation, sex, massage, blow without condom.
Kisses cost here 10 EU surcharge.
Oral sex with her as 10 EU surcharge.
In the mouth, come if you want 30 EU surcharge.
Member #4359
02-09-11, 02:18
I have seen some acronyms I don't understand: NEN and NEM Can anyone enlighten me?
Also, if someone says they had A-level service, what does that mean?
Are there any clubs around Frankfurt that offer discounts or a free admission on one's birthday?
Are there any clubs around Frankfurt that offer discounts or a free admission on one's birthday?The only club that I'm sure offers a free admission (plus a bottle of wine) on your birthday is Bernds.
Pay for your gas.
Hessen Bub
02-10-11, 09:26
Are there any clubs around Frankfurt that offer discounts or a free admission on one's birthday?Palace does offer FREE admission.
HB
Palace does offer FREE admission.
HBI wish I had known that a short while ago! I have never seen it written anywhere, or on the website. Do you have personal experience of this, or is it something posted on the German boards?
FKK Atlantik is another with free admission around Frankfurt.
Further north, Bernds and YY have the same offer, and I can verify from happy experience that both are happy to let you in FOC.
Be aware, that you may need to allow a copy to be taken of your documentation. The clubs say this is to show management (to prove they did not just let a mate in for free) , and promise that it will be destroyed at days end.
PL
Member #4722
02-10-11, 17:44
That is much better than a free breakfast at Denny's!
Hi friends,
I love the bigger women and am visiting FKK palace and oasis in March 2011 are their any bigger / mature girls who work either clubs? I'd love to know.
Thanks in advance
Basketcase
02-10-11, 21:13
Hi friends,
I love the bigger women and am visiting FKK palace and oasis in March 2011 are their any bigger / mature girls who work either clubs? I'd love to know.
Thanks in advanceIn my opinion there are a lot of larger bodied and mature women at World and maybe Oase. Go fill your boots and hands with that ample flesh.
Less of what you want at Palace.
Hessen Bub
02-11-11, 12:58
I wish I had known that a short while ago! I have never seen it written anywhere, or on the website. Do you have personal experience of this, or is it something posted on the German boards?No, it's not written on their website. Yes, I do know guys who did get free admission on their birthday.
HB
Are there any clubs around Frankfurt that offer discounts or a free admission on one's birthday?Flamingo Island (Karlsruhe) also offer a discount on birthdays, but this is a well 200 km away from Frankfurt, so you spend on fuel what you get for entrance discount.
Yes I've fucked in the last sixteen months but it is up to me to write something about it.Transferred from the Living Room thread: Yes, exactly. You didn't. Who are you to criticize someone else for irrelevance on the Living Room board? Build up some cred and we might listen to your moans.
Last time, it wasn't the same case with my rental. At the end of January, I rented a car from Avis Basic. 22 Euro / day. It was 3 degree Celcius in the daytime, but minus 7 sometimes during late night, but there were not snows on the roads. The lady in counter gave me a car fitted with winter tyres. I asked if there is a surcharge of extra for winter tyres, she says "nein". Previously, I always asked to sign a paper if I don't want winter tires or asked for an extra 13 Euro / daily, and last time was last December 2010. So maybe, something changed in Avis, if the law says all cars have to be fitted with winter tyres between October and March, maybe they are not any more, able to handle a car fitted with summer and maybe they can't charge any more for the winter tyres (even they have this option as an extra on your online quotation).
Stabilo Boss
02-20-11, 13:37
Please have a look to these two links in case you need to find some locations:
http://www.isaw-db.com/map_de.html
http://www.kaleus-clubindex.com/kaleu/deutsch/quicklist.php
Mtraveller
02-20-11, 20:51
Surcharge for winter tires have been a popular ripoff in the past. Now that winter tires are legally required a customer challenged this in court and did win the case. Charging for (legally required) winter tires is like charging extra for brakes and rear mirror.
Last time, it wasn't the same case with my rental. At the end of January, I rented a car from Avis Basic. 22 Euro / day. It was 3 degree Celcius in the daytime, but minus 7 sometimes during late night, but there were not snows on the roads. The lady in counter gave me a car fitted with winter tyres. I asked if there is a surcharge of extra for winter tyres, she says "nein". Previously, I always asked to sign a paper if I don't want winter tires or asked for an extra 13 Euro / daily, and last time was last December 2010. So maybe, something changed in Avis, if the law says all cars have to be fitted with winter tyres between October and March, maybe they are not any more, able to handle a car fitted with summer and maybe they can't charge any more for the winter tyres (even they have this option as an extra on your online quotation).
Basketcase
02-21-11, 21:12
Surcharge for winter tires have been a popular ripoff in the past. Now that winter tires are legally required a customer challenged this in court and did win the case. Charging for (legally required) winter tires is like charging extra for brakes and rear mirror.That explains why since December every rental car I have got has winter tyres now at no extra cost. Also I get upgraded every time from a 1. 1L or 1. 2L small car to a 1. 6L mid size car too for some reason I cannot fathom. I still pay the price for the small car.
It may also be that you rent a lot from them. I've gotten some pretty sweet upgrades (C to E class, etc.) just because they get a lot of my company's business.
Nille Copenhagen
02-22-11, 00:49
Which company are you renting from, I've just rented from Hertz last week and Winter tyres are free of charge. I had a choice to get upgraded to a Ford 1, 6L SW for free, but I didn't like the SW, so I got a BMW 3 with a small extra fee.
Surcharge for winter tires have been a popular ripoff in the past. Now that winter tires are legally required a customer challenged this in court and did win the case. Charging for (legally required) winter tires is like charging extra for brakes and rear mirror.You are so right and indeed you read all the reports on winter tyres so well! Thruth is that winter tires are legally required, but only in sommer!
@Jack42: Je kunt hier een bericht 1000 maal of 2000 posten, it does not make any difference, men leest niet of men is te dom om het te begrijpen, good point my dear Friend Jack42!
B30
Basketcase
02-22-11, 23:14
It may also be that you rent a lot from them. I've gotten some pretty sweet upgrades (C to E class, etc.) just because they get a lot of my company's business.Hi Veefib,
I book with Hertz. Occassionally Avis, and never Sixt or Europcar. I have no company account. This is all on personal account. In the beginning I got what I paid for but now in the winter I can getting some nice mid sized cars.
Treble Machine
02-23-11, 10:48
More on the rental from Hertz.
Anyone ever tried to take the car back when the agency is closed for the night?
Next time I fly back home I should be dropping the car back at Frankfurt Hahn at about 5 in morning. No issues? Hopefully I won't be over charged if the make up fictional stuff.
More on the rental from Hertz.
Anyone ever tried to take the car back when the agency is closed for the night?
Next time I fly back home I should be dropping the car back at Frankfurt Hahn at about 5 in morning. No issues? Hopefully I won't be over charged if the make up fictional stuff. All the rental car agency's use the same key drop box. Its about 100 feet from where you return your car. Follow the signs for Hertz, park the car and lock it up. Then as your walking towards the elevators you'll see what looks like a newpaper box. You pull out the slot, put in your car key and your agreement booklet and slide it back in. The keys and book will drop into the box.
More on the rental from Hertz.
Anyone ever tried to take the car back when the agency is closed for the night?
Next time I fly back home I should be dropping the car back at Frankfurt Hahn at about 5 in morning. No issues? Hopefully I won't be over charged if the make up fictional stuff. If you are stressed out about fictional charges, take pics of each side of the car in the parking lot where you return it. As it will be dark at 5 am, you would need a camera with half decent flash as opposed to a phone camera
As it will be dark at 5 amLast time I returned a car early, the parking garage at the airport had all their lights on. Bright as day. A cell phone camera should be sufficient.
Hi. I'm a complete beginner with computers, except to use the internet. I tried to post on the Palace thread (worked on it a long time) , but it disappeared when I clicked on 'preview report'. I tried a brief test post that was posted. So I again spent a long time recreating the lost post, clicked on 'add report', and it disappeared, replaced by a notice that I was not logged in, which I was. Jackson has not been able to help. I use a mac. Can anyone help? I really would like to share my Palace experience.
Angus Magee
03-03-11, 16:01
Hi. I'm a complete beginner with computers, except to use the internet. I tried to post on the Palace thread (worked on it a long time) , but it disappeared when I clicked on 'preview report'. I tried a brief test post that was posted. So I again spent a long time recreating the lost post, clicked on 'add report', and it disappeared, replaced by a notice that I was not logged in, which I was. Jackson has not been able to help. I use a mac. Can anyone help? I really would like to share my Palace experience.I think there is a time out by default when posting. That is after a certain amount of time in the posting field you are automatically signed out. Not sure exactly why this is so. Best thing to do with longer reports is to write them in a word processing program (eg. word) and then when ready open the posting field, copy, paste, and post.
AM
That you should write and play with it on TextEdit or Pages first. Another thing, when you are siging on, click on the box to Remember Me, just below where you put your user name etc. It will allow you to stay on longer, even if you are not active. When you sign out, any cookie is removed and you will have to re-check the box the next time you sign in.
Welcome aboard.
Myr.
I think there is a time out by default when posting. That is after a certain amount of time in the posting field you are automatically signed out. Not sure exactly why this is so. Best thing to do with longer reports is to write them in a word processing program (eg. Word) and then when ready open the posting field, copy, paste, and post.
AM
Treble Machine
03-04-11, 08:52
Breadman and Henio, thanks for the advices.
Will definitely take pictures of the car, did not think about that.
One more doubt. Anyone in the know regarding the opening times at the gas station down the road from Hahn?
Same problem, I will have to fill the tank at about 5 am.
Can't wait for my next Frankfurt trip!
PriceFisher
03-05-11, 05:50
Can some kind souls help me out? I am trying to decide on what to do after Frankfurt. What are the next three best cities for FKKs? Berlin, Cologne?
Can some kind souls help me out? I am trying to decide on what to do after Frankfurt. What are the next three best cities for FKKs? Berlin, Cologne?Well, you mention two cities, not three. So a third would obviously be: Dusseldorf.
Berlin, actually, is not a great city for FKKs, siince, in essence, it only has Artemis. But there are lots of other options in Berlin (read the thread and esp Angus' material; or indeed go to his blog.) , I mean LOTS.
But I think most people in the know would certainly point you to first Duesseldorf, then Koln. Try to get some wheels maximize your time there and your ability to truly explore the options available.
O
PriceFisher
03-05-11, 17:07
Thank you!
So it looks like the best route for me is:
Frankfurt (3) , Cologne (1) , Dusseldorf (1) , Berlin (2)
Number in parenthesis is days so:
F:Palace.
F:World.
F:Oases.
C: Satyam.
D:?
B: Artemis.
B:?
Well, you mention two cities, not three. So a third would obviously be: Dusseldorf.
Berlin, actually, is not a great city for FKKs, siince, in essence, it only has Artemis. But there are lots of other options in Berlin (read the thread and esp Angus' material; or indeed go to his blog.) , I mean LOTS.
But I think most people in the know would certainly point you to first Duesseldorf, then Koln. Try to get some wheels maximize your time there and your ability to truly explore the options available.
O
Thank you!
So it looks like the best route for me is:
Frankfurt (3) , Cologne (1) , Dusseldorf (1) , Berlin (2)
Number in parenthesis is days so:
F:Palace.
F:World.
F:Oases.
C: Satyam.
D:?
B: Artemis.
B:? Satyam!
Do you mean Samya? If that is the case you have made a good choice in my opinion. A good club to pick near Dusseldorf could be LivingRoom.
T
Thank you!
So it looks like the best route for me is:
Frankfurt (3) , Cologne (1) , Dusseldorf (1) , Berlin (2)
Number in parenthesis is days so:
F:Palace.
F:World.
F:Oase. If you are going to be in Frankfurt I would throw in FKK Mainhattan too. It's on the other side of town from Palace and worth a visit. I've found some good talent in there. May as well if you're gonna be in Frankfurt anyway. And it's a hell of a lot easier to get to than World or Oase. Also, you don't have to set aside another day in Frankfurt just to see Mainhattan. I'll usually split one day between Mainhattan and Palace. Mainhattan first and then Palace well in time for dinner since they have the better food over there. Both got pussy but Palace gotta better meal. LOL! When you go to Oase eat something beforehand because the food there is the worst of any FKK I have been to so far. It wasn't even edible the last time, and that's no exaggeration. You can fill up on Oase pussy instead and fill your belly up later!
So it looks like the best route for me is:
Frankfurt (3) , Cologne (1) , Dusseldorf (1) , Berlin (2) So your giving Berlin two days and they've basically only have one FKK? Are you driving, taking the train / public transportation (and / or flying to Berlin)? Is your flight booked into Frankfurt and then out of another city?
and my experience is solely with escorts (and American strip clubs).
I only just learned about FKKs (4 weeks ago or so) and it sounded fun enough for me to book a 7 day vacation solely to do that! As I kept reading I thought it would make sense to have a plan B if the FKK thing didn't work out. I'm familiar with the american stripclubs and the Canadian escort scene. Niagara falls, Toronto and Montreal. And the stripclub scene in those cities plus Windsor. Can I ask if your in this general area or are you doing escorts in the states in your hometown?
I suggest you stick to one city on your first trip, Frankfurt would be the wisest choice. Seven days is just too short a time to be doing all that traveling, save the money you'd be spending to do all that traveling. Stay in one area, get plenty of rest and do lots of girls. Instead of escorts as your backup, visit the Frankfurt Red Light District (reviews are under the Frankfurt section, not under the FKK section). Quoted below is one of the latest reviews on the RLD in Frankfurt:
Regards the RLD, it was a surprise, a good surprise. Been here 3 days and have been with 6 girls. All beautiful girls, I don't understand many previous reports that have put down the RLD. Prices ranged from 20 euro to 35 euro. All good value. I play the gentleman and I got good response from all the girls. A couple of them were stunners. Theres one stunning tall blond on the top flr of 36 Trauns. Well worth the climb. She's a pretty nice girl. I give them good massage and humour for 5 minutes and they warm up pleasantly.
Nationalities ranged from Hungary, Bulgaria, Rumanian, Poland etc. Rotes Haus is worth a good look to. I still haven't checked out all the houses. Theres seems to be a plentiful supply of beauties. I always suspected that it was the FKK clubs writing the bad reports on the RLD. I mean, it is their main competitor. Its safe to walk around, the police are present, a few junkies around on the streets but no big deal. Tonight I'm going to repeat with one of the girls from Rotes Haus, we had a good friendship. Some of these girls have had a tough history, it is a pleasure to make them happy.
Cheers Nickc
PriceFisher
03-06-11, 03:18
I really don't mind driving (I'll have a rental car). I'd also like to hit a few breweries, nice restaurants and casinos.
Bavaria is really good for those items, but it seems like it is horrible for FKK. Speaking of which any good Breweries on this route I should hit?
I'd like to possibly try a partytreff, although some research has shown me that the quality of women is significantly lower than FKKs.
I'll be landing early AM so I might go straight to the RLD.
I'll take The Cane's advice and hit Mainhattan once, it's inexpensive enough.
I considered Bernd's but it sounded like the women were mostly 30+ which doesn't suit me particularly. Also there is Paschal which sounds pretty seedy but hey, you only live once.
I will give a detailed report (if I survive!)
So your giving Berlin two days and they've basically only have one FKK? Are you driving, taking the train / public transportation (and / or flying to Berlin)? Is your flight booked into Frankfurt and then out of another city?
I'm familiar with the american stripclubs and the Canadian escort scene. Niagara falls, Toronto and Montreal. And the stripclub scene in those cities plus Windsor. Can I ask if your in this general area or are you doing escorts in the states in your hometown?
I suggest you stick to one city on your first trip, Frankfurt would be the wisest choice. Seven days is just too short a time to be doing all that traveling, save the money you'd be spending to do all that traveling. Stay in one area, get plenty of rest and do lots of girls. Instead of escorts as your backup, visit the Frankfurt Red Light District (reviews are under the Frankfurt section, not under the FKK section). Quoted below is one of the latest reviews on the RLD in Frankfurt:
I really don't mind driving (I'll have a rental car). I'd also like to hit a few breweries, nice restaurants and casinos.
Bavaria is really good for those items, but it seems like it is horrible for FKK. Speaking of which any good Breweries on this route I should hit?
I'd like to possibly try a partytreff, although some research has shown me that the quality of women is significantly lower than FKKs.
I'll be landing early AM so I might go straight to the RLD.
I'll take The Cane's advice and hit Mainhattan once, it's inexpensive enough.
I considered Bernd's but it sounded like the women were mostly 30+ which doesn't suit me particularly. Also there is Paschal which sounds pretty seedy but hey, you only live once.
I will give a detailed report (if I survive!) I'll be honest here, I'm am completely shocked. Shocked and awed, you seem determined, no destined to have the worst newbie Fkk tour EVER. It just seems your taking advice and going in the completely opposite direction at every corner. You'll believe reviews of escorts you've never met but you won't believe what experienced Fkk guys are telling you? Wow.
Pièce de résistance: I don't mind driving hours upon hours in the winter on an autobahn that's going to completely blow your idea of 'passing on the left'. And your going to be stopping at the breweries for a couple pints along the way. Make sure your medical coverage is up to date before you venture over, I think your going to need it. The way things are going, I can just see you pulling into the left lane on the autobahn and setting the cruise to 120kms.
PriceFisher
03-06-11, 04:56
Excuse me, but.
FKKers recommended against escorts and I said I'd avoid it (it was always a plan be)
FKKEr recommended Mainhattan and I said I would go.
FKKer recommended RLD and I said I would go.
The only recommendation that won't work for me is to avoid Berlin.
And no, I don't plan on drinking and driving.
I'll be honest here, I'm am completely shocked. Shocked and awed, you seem determined, no destined to have the worst newbie Fkk tour EVER. It just seems your taking advice and going in the completely opposite direction at every corner. You'll believe reviews of escorts you've never met but you won't believe what experienced Fkk guys are telling you? Wow.
Pièce de areésistance: I don't mind driving hours upon hours in the winter on an autobahn that's going to completely blow your idea of 'passing on the left'. And your going to be stopping at the breweries for a couple pints along the way. Make sure your medical coverage is up to date before you venture over, I think your going to need it. The way things are going, I can just see you pulling into the left lane on the autobahn and setting the cruise to 120kms.
Excuse me, but.
FKKers recommended against escorts and I said I'd avoid it (it was always a plan be)
FKKEr recommended Mainhattan and I said I would go.
FKKer recommended RLD and I said I would go.
The only recommendation that won't work for me is to avoid Berlin.
And no, I don't plan on drinking and driving. Your plan sounds fine, but avoid the RLD near the Frankfurt train because it sucks big time. I've wasted a Sunday afternoon and Monday morning climbing several flights of stairs in several buildings just to find fat and older women. Never to been Berlin so I can't say what type of quality is there.
Hessen Bub
03-06-11, 10:36
Your plan sounds fine, but avoid the RLD near the Frankfurt train because it sucks big time. I've wasted a Sunday afternoon and Monday morning climbing several flights of stairs in several buildings just to find fat and older women. Never to been Berlin so I can't say what type of quality is there.Question of timing. Visit the RLD from late afternoon to midnight, it's a fascinating atmosphere, it's safe, don't worry, and there's some nice girls that will give good service for 20 to 30€.
I would skip Mainhattan, but if you want to go, the club is clean and new, but better in summer.
HB
Question of timing. Visit the RLD from late afternoon to midnight, it's a fascinating atmosphere, it's safe, don't worry, and there's some nice girls that will give good service for 20 to 30€.
I would skip Mainhattan, but if you want to go, the club is clean and new, but better in summer.
HBIf I were to skip one, I would skip Palace. The girls there just don't put out the way that I like on average. I have never been to the RLD as I generally don't like those in any city, so I can't comment on that. As a newbie PriceFisher, and since you are calling this your FKK tour, I would recommend that you see as many different clubs as is reasonable (as another here said don't waste too much time traveling around . . . spend more time in a few places banging girls).
I spent my first FKK voyage based primarily in Frankfurt. I went twice to Palace, Mainhattan, and Oase. I also spent a couple of nights in Berlin at Artemis. On subsequent trips I added World into the rotation and will hit Golden Time soon. The reason why I say see as many clubs as is reasonable on the first trip is because that will help you plan better the next time (and there will be a next time). You'll always feel like you might be missing something if you don't go to a place you could have visited. Discover which ones you like as soon as possible, and that will make it easier to plan in the future.
So with that in mind, and not overdoing it on the travel, go to as many of the mainline FKKs as you can on the first trip. Then on your second trip, you'll be able to make better decisions for yourself that you'll be 100% comfortable with. If somebody told me right now I couldn't go to Palace on my next several trips I wouldn't care because I been there and done that and know there are plenty of other places that are better for satisfying my sexual appetite.
That's where you want to get to. Knowing the market well enough that you know exactly where to spend your time and money in order to satisfy your specific needs as the consumer. In order to do that, you need to see a number of the different FKKs. With the concentration of them in and around Frankfurt, that's a good place for a newbie to start. If you're in Frankfurt, then visit at least Palace, Mainhattan, and Oase. You'll be glad you did, even if you don't necessarily "click" with every place. It's a part of the learning and familiarization process.
And remember that things change. The place that was great the last time may suck the next time. I wasn't so enthused with Mainhattan my first visit, but on subsequent visits there I found me some real, real nasty girls! LOL! So, if you're going to be a regular you need to give a place a few chances (unless it was just that bad for you) in order to have a good rotation of clubs to visit on any one trip.
Hessen Bub
03-06-11, 13:25
Maybe Palace should not be your first FKK to visit, but it should be definetly on the list. Do Oase or World before you to to Palace.
HB
The Captain, Breadman, HB, Cane and others have all given great advice here, and I suggest you listen carefully to what they are saying. I just want to highlight some of what have been said:
- A FKK is not a place you enter, fuck and leave. It is a different way of thinking; a different way of living. Take your time and let the experience sink in. This is a place you want to enter, relax and stay ALL day and maybe ALL night too. Plan staying 3- 4 hrs in a small club and 6- 8 hrs in one of the larger as a MINIMUM.
- Germany is large and has a BIG FKK scene. Do not expect to be able to experience everything in only one week. Spend your precious leisure time fucking and not driving on a highway. This hobby is addictive and you WILL be coming back for more at a later stage anyway.
- Do visit as many FKKs as you can, but do not plan visiting more than one FKK per day (max. two every now and then, but not really recommended). Keep in mind you may want to have time for at least one revisit in each area (your favorite FKK).
- Do not plan to visit more than 1- 2 towns. Landing in Berlin I would focus primarily on Berlin; landing in Frankfurt focus on Frankfurt, landing in Köln or Düsseldorf ..., well, you know what to do (see the Captain's suggestions for clubs to visit in each area).
- If visiting Frankfurt I would look at Oase, World and Palace as mandatory places to visit first with Mainhattan as an outsider. Sure, Palace receives a few controversial reports, but you need to know firsthand what the fuss is all about. If disappointed, then remember Oase is only 20- 25 mnts away by car and Mainhattan even closer. Other possibilites in the Frankfurt / Hessen area are Das 5 Element, Atlantik and Sharks, but these places can be skipped on a first visit.
Happy hunting!
Maybe Palace should not be your first FKK to visit, but it should be definetly on the list. Do Oase or World before you to to Palace.
HBOn this the highly experienced Hessen Bub and I are on the same page. Palace should definitely be a part of any newbie's introduction to the FKK scene. I personally would skip it if I had to, but I've already been there several times. Notice that I didn't say that I don't ever want to go to Palace ever again. I realize that with "tute migratory patterns" Palace could one day be the place for me. Things change! But that said, for the next several trips I would not be upset if Palace wasn't a part of the rotation.
And, I have a BBBJ/CIM Palace recommendation for you PriceFisher. . . Gina from the Czech Republic. She's a bit controversial. Some like her. Some don't. As Hessen Bub will tell you, and I believe he has it right, when it comes to humping she is an average performer, but I find her to be very, very pretty, and I really, really do enjoy her BJs.
Last time I didn't even fuck her. . . just got a little massage from her then had her suck my dick off 'til I spunked all in her pretty blonde, Czech mouth. Then she slapped me a high five when I had finished cum dumping on her teeth. . . holding the sperm in her mouth while she did it. . . worth every last fuckin' penny! I don't recommend her for the fuck. But I do for the cock suck. Go and experience. Learn the scene. And have fun!
Hessen Bub
03-06-11, 16:06
And, I have a BBBJ/CIM Palace recommendation for you PriceFisher. . . Gina from the Czech Republic. She's a bit controversial. Some like her. Some don't. As Hessen Bub will tell you, and I believe he has it right, when it comes to humping she is an average performer, but I find her to be very, very pretty, and I really, really do enjoy her BJs.100% in agreement. And since she lost weight again I was really fighting with myself during my last visit to book her again (dayshift was weak).
HB
I am planning to spend a month touring FKK clubs in Germany.
I have read the last two years of posts on this thread, but I couldn't find an answer to this question:
Is August a good month for FKK clubs?
I am worried that there may be some holidays or other reason that would make it a bad time of year for FKK clubs.
Can anyone give me any guidance? Is there a better month for me to go?
Thanks.
Angus Magee
03-07-11, 12:12
Can anyone give me any guidance? Is there a better month for me to go?
Thanks. Artemis is a bit slow in August but is also a nice time to visit as the girls who are there are generally more laid back. At the time of this writing though Artemis is more or less and indoor club. There are supposedly plans to build a big out dorr facility but at the moment this is just plans.
I am not sure about the Hessen clubs but imagine they are also ok. Let's face it there are advantages and disadvantages to any time of the year. Oase does have a very nice out door facility which I am sure is put to good use in August.
AM
Artemis is a bit slow in August but is also a nice time to visit as the girls who are there are generally more laid back. At the time of this writing though Artemis is more or less and indoor club. There are supposedly plans to build a big out dorr facility but at the moment this is just plans.
I am not sure about the Hessen clubs but imagine they are also ok. Let's face it there are advantages and disadvantages to any time of the year. Oase does have a very nice out door facility which I am sure is put to good use in August.
AMMy experience is primarily the Hessen clubs, but I think the question raised apply for the whole FKK scene:
August, as any other holiday period, is a time when many girls are away on holiday. So for guys searching the best selection of girls this is a bad time to visit. Personally I would have picked May/June or September, which all are relatively warm months, but with a much greater selection of girls at the clubs.
Still I do share some of Angus' view on August. I too kinda like the laid back atmosphere among the girls, and of course in combination with the lovely outdoors at Oase / World. I mean, if Oase has 100 girls present on a Saturday night in prime season, my repeat / to do list will include 20- 30 girls. That is more than I can handle regretfully. :) In August there may be only half of this, but still plenty for me to do. No problem for my taste - except maybe in the early morning hours before the full line-up is present. Admittedly some guys are pickier than me and therefore avoid holidays.
Also, I do not mind the extra trolls that stroll the fields in summer (the "old girls" trying their luck and stepping in around holiday seasons). They are nice to talk with, even though I do not spend my money on them. But if you are disturbed by this, you may want to pick another time to visit.
One good idea I think is to keep to the larger clubs in August. Clubs with a great outdoor area obviously also attract a greater crowd. As girls are on holiday, the smaller clubs may struggle harder to maintain a decent line-up.
I am not sure about the Hessen clubs but imagine they are also ok. Let's face it there are advantages and disadvantages to any time of the year. Oase does have a very nice out door facility which I am sure is put to good use in August.
AMI think there is general agreement (or am I wrong?) that the summer generally, and August specifically, are the absolute worst months for visiting FKKs. At least this is my perspective.
Not only are many girls on holiday, but so are alot of the male club visitors. Plus there are always problems with heat in the rooms (unless you go to Palace, where they do turn on the A / C in the rooms). And then there are the often-reported annoying flies.
But for me it is the line-up that makes or breaks a club at any given time. And August is not famous for the best line-ups. There are no messe events in town, which often draws lots of girls for the line-ups.
Personally, I would wait until September to visit the clubs.
O
Going back two year, I used to see very reasonable airfare to Germany. Sometimes coming close to 400 USD roundtrip even in May. Last year, with all the airline mergers, prices practically doubled. This year its 2 1/2 times what I used to see way back when. Mid febuary on thru March is when you can usually find a decent price for a flight returning before mid May. Not this year so far.
Anyone else having trouble finding a decent price?
Are high and probably only going higher due to fuel. On the other hand, €'s are good: I just bought some at the second lowest rate for me in the last 2 years. I have to travel at the end of June and a few days into July. Costs may be high, some girls will be on holidays & there will be more tourists. I don't care: it will be the best time for me because I am there!
I will make it good! Come on over & see!
Myr.
Going back two year, I used to see very reasonable airfare to Germany. Sometimes coming close to 400 USD roundtrip even in May. Last year, with all the airline mergers, prices practically doubled. This year its 2 1/2 times what I used to see way back when. Mid febuary on thru March is when you can usually find a decent price for a flight returning before mid May. Not this year so far.
Anyone else having trouble finding a decent price?
Going back two year, I used to see very reasonable airfare to Germany. Sometimes coming close to 400 USD roundtrip even in May. Last year, with all the airline mergers, prices practically doubled. This year its 2 1/2 times what I used to see way back when. Mid febuary on thru March is when you can usually find a decent price for a flight returning before mid May. Not this year so far.
Anyone else having trouble finding a decent price?I booked my flight the early part of January 2011.
$685 round trip Flint, MI to Detroit, MI to Frankfurt and return. March 8th. March 17th.
Good luck finding a price that cheap, now!
I booked my flight the early part of January 2011.
$685 round trip Flint, MI to Detroit, MI to Frankfurt and return. March 8th. March 17th.
Good luck finding a price that cheap, now! I found the same deal but at the end of May. It was only there for one day but luckily I bought it before Delta took away the low price. I read that Delta was offering roundtrips to Europe from some cities for $200 until they caught the error. Gone are the days of $400 roundtrips.
I think there is general agreement (or am I wrong?) that the summer generally, and August specifically, are the absolute worst months for visiting FKKs. At least this is my perspective.
Not only are many girls on holiday, but so are alot of the male club visitors. Plus there are always problems with heat in the rooms (unless you go to Palace, where they do turn on the A / C in the rooms). And then there are the often-reported annoying flies.
But for me it is the line-up that makes or breaks a club at any given time. And August is not famous for the best line-ups. There are no messe events in town, which often draws lots of girls for the line-ups.
Personally, I would wait until September to visit the clubs.
OI am glad I asked.
It sounds like I should definitely postpone my trip a little.
Which of September, October, and November do you think would be best?
Which of September, October, and November do you think would be best?That August is the worst month (note: not Wurst) is strictly my opinion, mind you. Others here may disagree. So because I've held this opinion for some time, I've not actually been to an FKK in August for several years, therefore I cannot speak from recent first-hand experience, just from the side-lines, so to speak.
I beleive the line-ups pick up significantly after the start of September. A good guide might be to look at the schedule of Messe events in Frankfurt and plan your timing in response to that. As has been recently discussed here, visiting a club during a large Messe event has its pluses (great extended line-ups) , but also its negative sides (astronomically high hotel fees, crowded club conditions, girls in a greater processing mode, etc.). You can work around the negatives, but still, it might be best to visit in between two Messe events, when the line-ups are still a bit swelled, but when the hotels dip back down to their normal rates.
O
That August is the worst month (note: not Wurst) is strictly my opinion, mind you. Others here may disagree. So because I've held this opinion for some time, I've not actually been to an FKK in August for several years, therefore I cannot speak from recent first-hand experience, just from the side-lines, so to speak.
I beleive the line-ups pick up significantly after the start of September. A good guide might be to look at the schedule of Messe events in Frankfurt and plan your timing in response to that. As has been recently discussed here, visiting a club during a large Messe event has its pluses (great extended line-ups) , but also its negative sides (astronomically high hotel fees, crowded club conditions, girls in a greater processing mode, etc.). You can work around the negatives, but still, it might be best to visit in between two Messe events, when the line-ups are still a bit swelled, but when the hotels dip back down to their normal rates.
OMy plan was to visit the following clubs:
Golden Times.
Living Room.
Planet Happy Garden.
Oase.
World.
I was going to try to find a hotel near each of them and stay until I got tired of the club and then move on to the next one. However, if it is high season, then the hotels might be booked up. On the other hand, if it is low season, the line ups of the women at the clubs might not be great. This is a tough balancing act. I definitely can't take the risk of not being able to find a hotel, that's for sure.
Any suggestions?
My plan was to visit the following clubs:
Golden Times.
Living Room.
Planet Happy Garden.
Oase.
World.
I was going to try to find a hotel near each of them and stay until I got tired of the club and then move on to the next one. However, if it is high season, then the hotels might be booked up. On the other hand, if it is low season, the line ups of the women at the clubs might not be great. This is a tough balancing act. I definitely can't take the risk of not being able to find a hotel, that's for sure.
Any suggestions? Hey,
For the "Golden Triangle" clubs (LR, GT and PHG) book the Etap in West Willich. Pretty practical for all three if you have a car, which I would strongly suggest.
B & B Frankfurt Nord is a great option for World / Oase trekking. Closer to Oase than World, but with a car and no real traffic, one is in Pohlheim from the B & B in 20 to 25 minutes. One of us made in about 15 recently, but he is a daredevil.
Etap West Willich is usually 39 EUR per night on off Messe days. B & B is 48 on off Messe days.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I agree with Ortos to the degree that if you are looking for sheer numbers, then August is probably the month that has fewest girls, so f. Ex. At Oase you may have 50 girls instead of 100. I do however love hanging out at the FKKs in July and August. A bit less hectic, but still plenty enough of good looking girls to sample.
I also find that GT does not seem to suffer much during the holiday season. May be because there is a line of girls trying to get into that club.
@Dedalus: It was flat 15 minutes, not "about". And we did use that shortcut by the rest stop. I would say a normal driving from the B&B to World not using the "illegal" shortcut is about 25-30 minutes.
@Freedom3: High season of FKKs has absolutely no effect on hotels. The only thing that fills up hotels in these areas is if there is a conference in town and even if they are concentrated around fall-winter-spring, there is always plenty time in between and you will have no problems as long as you plan your trip properly. Even if you are around during conference time, Etap Willich for example does not really get affected by conferences since it is not really close to Dusseldorf anyway, but as Deda points out, it is a good hub for NRW club visits. Etap Linden (close to World) does not really get affected as well since it is about 40 km north of Frankfurt, but also a good hub for both World and Oase. B&B Frankfurt Nord raises its rates considerably during conference time, but considerably less than most other hotels in Frankfurt. Both Etap and B&B are budget hotels, but still reasonable good place if you don't need a lot of on premises services. Nice clean rooms, free internet and price of 35-48 euros per night. Own wheels are definetly the best option. Not only will it give you freedom of travel, but it is actually cheaper in most cases than relying on combination of public transport and taxis.
@Dedalus: It was flat 15 minutes, not "about".
And we did use that shortcut by the rest stop. I would say a normal driving from the B&B to World not using the "illegal" shortcut is about 25-30 minutes.
Hey Man,
I stand corrected. ;-)))
Cheers,
Dedalus, Mr Approximate
Sanjay Dutt
03-12-11, 13:23
Hello, members,
This if for first time I will be visiting Germany. I am interested in visiting FKK clubs. But seems to be very confucing after reading all the reports. Can any 1 senior member guide me for this.
Budget is not problem.
Can go to all inclusive also.
No time limit.
Will be tere in next week for 5 days
Angus Magee
03-25-11, 16:03
Kind of reminds me of Kimino when he finally hits the main bar in Artemis, except Kimino covers it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-CobellfLs
;)
Sorry Kimino, I couldn't resist.
AM
Kind of reminds me of Kimino when he finally hits the main bar in Artemis, except Kimino covers it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-CobellfLs
Sorry Kimino, I couldn't resist.
AMThe thing with the seeds was interesting. Ahahahaha.
Ciao
Hi,
If you have cash, then changing US Dollars to Euros can be a big headache. The Hotel may not do it but they spank you. The Airports take a birch and give you six of the best. The clubs, get the nine tail whip out.
Now thats fine, but I prefer my exchanges to be the vanilla variety. The best rate I could get this week was from the VolksBank. There is one in the centre of Giessen which is easy to find if you are staying in that area.
The current rate is 500. 00 USD=354. 912 EUR at Interbank Rate.
I got 328 Euros for 500 bucks. The charge for non account holders is 4 Euros, So that would be 332 Euros, which means 1. 52 dollars to the Euro instead of 1. 40 which is 12 cents penalty on the spread.
So it is about 26 Dollars in fees total, which is 5% so not much different from using your card.
Hello to everybody,
This August I have to make the training to my new car, a brand new Alfa Romeo Giulietta, so I want to drive around Germany leaving from Italy.
Can you suggest me your wish list regarding "best outdoor area fkk"?
I want to take sunbathes, have fun and travel around germany, during summer.
For now I was thinking at Oase bad homburg frankfurt and Acapulco velbert close to dusseldorf.
Anyone more?
Danke shoen!
Robnbg1981
03-29-11, 11:03
Hi Italia77,
I envy you for your new car! I want one too.
If you are in the Frankfurt Area then the FKK Oase ist the best place to go, providing the weather is warm and the sun is out.
They have a large garden with a pool, plenty of sunchairs and an outdoor bar and grill.
Outside they have one or two separées located above the pool where you can have fun with a girl outside under the blue sky. Really fun in summer.
The inside of the club is not that nice. There is one large room, the bar and meeting area, but this room has a low ceiling and is pretty dark.
Would I go back in summer?
Yes, definately!
Have a good time!
Hello, to everybody,
This August I have to make the training to my new car, a brand new Alfa Romeo Giulietta, so I want to drive around Germany leaving from Italy.
Can you suggest me your wish list regarding "best outdoor area fkk"?
I want to take sunbathes, have fun and travel around germany, during summer.
For now I was thinking at Oase bad homburg frankfurt and Acapulco velbert close to dusseldorf.
Anyone more?
Danke shoen!
Hi,
A girl is asking me to go to Bitburg. I do not know why but the club is called www.sansi-bar.de And is close enough to hahn Airportthat I am tempted.
Does anybody know what this place is like?
Hi,
A girl is asking me to go to Bitburg. I do not know why but the club is called.
www.sansi-bar.de
And is close enough to hahn Airportthat I am tempted.
Does anybody know what this place is like? Well it hasn't opened yet (tomorrow) , so I doubt if there's any useful info. Also doubt that it is an FKK as we know them.
Bitburg used to be really way off the beaten track for us punters, with absolutely nothing of interest at all, except for the road signs for Cologne over 100kms away.
But if you strike out off the coast of east Africa, all is not lost. You might like to try this relatively new place, which has had the odd good report:
http://www.villa-diva.de/index.php?id=2&L=2
Judging by the set-up of the website and the fee structure, I suspect it may be a new brothel run by the owners of Villa Venezia further south in Saarlouis. Villa Venezia is a high quality place, if not that cheap, and a couple of the girls on the Bitburg gallery are known to me by sight. I must emphasize I have not been there, nor sampled any of the girls, but it is probably OK.
Would appreciate a report if you do go in this direction. Wish you good fortune in this deepest of provincial backwaters. Local beer's great.
Well it hasn't opened yet (tomorrow) , so I doubt if there's any useful info. Also doubt that it is an FKK as we know them.Right. I am booked in Friday night or Saturday daytime. If a disaster I will be at Oaze on Saturday.
I am told its 100 in the room for half an hour (ouch) but no entry fee. They do the bottle of champagne scam. That is, I think you must pay 40 euros for this cheap crap. You know the drill. Wether it is compulsory or not I do not know. Either they make money from the time in the room or from the bottle of alchoholic pop.
Anyway. It could be OK if I only want one girl (am going to visit a particular girl I like) and see how it pans out.
I will be reporting next Monday or Tuesday. As a beer fan, I look forward to the local beer.
Hessen Bub
04-07-11, 08:34
I am told its 100 in the room for half an hour (ouch) but no entry fee. They do the bottle of champagne scam. That is, I think you must pay 40 euros for this cheap crap.This is a standard "Kontaktbar" and has nothing to do with the FKK Club concept.
As a beer fan, I look forward to the local beer.The local beer in Bitburg will be Bitburger. A national brand, a typical mainstream "Fernsehbier".
HB
The local beer in Bitburg will be Bitburger. A national brand, a typical mainstream "Fernsehbier".
HBDoes that mean: It's a "TV-beer" like Bud lite in USA? Actually, I drink a Bitburger (oder zwie) at the end of my evening's activities when I visit LV! It goes down nice when it's served ice cold and I've sweated up a bit 'im Zimmer.'
O
Hessen Bub
04-08-11, 16:32
Does that mean: It's a "TV-beer" like Bud lite in USA?It is, same as Warsteiner, König Pilsener, Krombacher, Paulaner, Veltins and maybe Jever (although I like the bitter taste of Jever best).
HB
Hey guys,
Has anyone ever been to the Bel Ami in Berlin? Is it a flatrate club or FKK style where you have to pay for every session?
Angus Magee
04-09-11, 08:55
Hey guys,
Has anyone ever been to the Bel Ami in Berlin? Is it a flatrate club or FKK style where you have to pay for every session? Do a search in the Berlin thread as there is a bit of info there, not much but some.
To answer your question, it is neither. Certainly it is not a flat rate buut it is not an FKK either. It would more be described as a champagne bar where you sit and drink champagne with the lady before taking her to a room. It is reported to be upper end and not cheap though I do not know specific prices. Note that there are two locations, one (the original) out near the Olympic stadium and one in Wilmersdorf in te same building as the bordello Mon Rouge. I am not sure of the differences between the location if there are any.
AM
Also is it possible to somehwo have private shower sex. That is something I very much want to do and enjoy. Only if it is private though not as in sex in swimming pool area etc.Transferred to where this should have been posted.
I've seen shower sex downstairs at Samya in Cologne, where there are some communal showers booths. But as I was able to watch it can hardly be construed as private. I wasn't that impressed with what I saw either, but that's neither here nor there.
I've seen shower sex downstairs at Samya in Cologne, where there are some communal showers booths. But as I was able to watch it can hardly be construed as private. I wasn't that impressed with what I saw either, but that's neither here nor there.Everyone's a critic. ;-))
This is a standard "Kontaktbar" and has nothing to do with the FKK Club concept.
The local beer in Bitburg will be Bitburger. A national brand, a typical mainstream "Fernsehbier".
HBI promised to let people know what this place is like. It is, as you say not related to FKK's but should any FKK people be stuck in Bitburg I highly recommend the local beer and not the Brothels.
Kontact Bar Principles and system: Utter Shit.
Girls: Very rough, but thankfully clothed.
Price: Double per hour than an FKK (200$ per hour)
Drinks: Very expensive but seen worse.
Ambience: small, dark and pokey, but clean. NO Facilities to speak of. No drink = no talk to girl.
Conclusion: Strictly for American Servicemen who can't be bothered to drive to Frankfurt.
At the risk of re-inventing the wheel, I will post this tid-bit in the hope it is news / useful to someone, newbie or veteran alike.
Many pooners come to Germany and either rent their own auto, or if they're like me, they use Public Transit to make their way around the country.
I have found the trains excellent: on time and fairly frequent. I use the DB website to plan my routes / costs prior to arriving. When I get there, being based in Frankfurt, I use the services of the DB office, upper level Hauptbahnhof.
But in this day an age of iPods & iPads it would be nice to use them, given a WiFi or G4 connection. On my iPod the main DB website does not work well. But guess what, there's an App. For that! Available on the DB site or from the APP. Store it really works well. IMHO.
Hopefully someone will benefit from this post.
Myr.
Mark_Simon
04-15-11, 05:22
Unfortunately I cannot spend that much time on the computer because my family is staying at my house. Long story short I will be going to paris for work and want to spend some time having fun. Thinking of zurich and frankfurt and them Amsterdam.
I need to be in Paris June 27 and 28. I was planning to arrive in europe on June 24 or 25. After the 28 I can stay until July 3. So I have time before and after to play. I've researched the train thing so I think that will be my best bet.
Need advice on where to fly into and leave. Want to sight see a littel in paris and Amsterdam. Want to bang in the other destinations. Should I fly into paris?
Unfortunately I cannot spend that much time on the computer because my family is staying at my house. Long story short I will be going to paris for work and want to spend some time having fun. Thinking of zurich and frankfurt and them Amsterdam.
I need to be in Paris June 27 and 28. I was planning to arrive in europe on June 24 or 25. After the 28 I can stay until July 3. So I have time before and after to play. I've researched the train thing so I think that will be my best bet.
Need advice on where to fly into and leave. Want to sight see a littel in paris and Amsterdam. Want to bang in the other destinations. Should I fly into paris? Dusseldorf then hire a car?
So I had to make a video as I have been remiss recently:
http://www.youtube.com/user/FKKperson?feature=mhum
It is inclusive of Quotes from Adams Family Values (As you suggest) and Fawlty Towers. Some humour from recent banter about Orgasm Cards.
Oh. And a raid from the corrupt DDR Police who once pocketed my money.
Enjoy.
SeekingSex
04-18-11, 18:51
First of all thanks for all the great reports in this forum, as I am speciall interested in theese clubs.
Have not tried anyone before.
So I would be very happy to hear your top 5 Must Do places. Inluding FKK + Partytreffclubs.
Keep in mind I am starting road trip from Denmark, and don't want to spend all days in the car.)
Mark_Simon
04-30-11, 02:50
Can you smoke marijuana in the clubs?
Hessen Bub
04-30-11, 11:26
Can you smoke marijuana in the clubs?It's illegal in Germany and so it is in the clubs. If management will catch you they'll probably throw you out. But. Sure you can smoke pot in the club and a lot of girls and guys do.
HB
County Library
05-05-11, 10:58
From here:
http://www.isaw-db.com/map_de.html
I can up with the following current valid web-links for some places on route.
Partytreff in Xanten.
http://www.xantener-partytreff.de/
Saunaclub in Emmerich.
http://www.fun-garden.de/
FKK in Goch.
http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/
FKK in Dorsten.
http://www.fkk-heavensgate.de/
Saunaclub in Bruggen.
http://www.goldentime.de/engl/
As won't be able to see them all, would welcome some suggestions please.
Thanks
I know it is an unusal point, but I have allergies to tree pollen and this is the allergy season here in Canada. I assume that it is also now spring in Germany so the trees are pollenating there as well. Does anyone know if now is also the allergy season in Germany? Does anyone have allergies and know if they got better or worse in Germany? Thanks.
Travelerb69
05-06-11, 05:13
From here:
http://www.isaw-db.com/map_de.html
I can up with the following current valid web-links for some places on route.
Partytreff in Xanten.
http://www.xantener-partytreff.de/
Saunaclub in Emmerich.
http://www.fun-garden.de/
FKK in Goch.
http://www.fkk-vangoch.de/
FKK in Dorsten.
http://www.fkk-heavensgate.de/
Saunaclub in Bruggen.
http://www.goldentime.de/engl/
As won't be able to see them all, would welcome some suggestions please.
ThanksAmong those clubs I have been to Golden Time, Van Goch and HeavensGate.
Golden Time is a must go club, should be the first in your list. Be aware that it gets very crowded after more or less 5 pm. Lots of info about the club at the poper thread.
Van Goch is not worthy a visit, I was there a few times because it is very close to Weeze Airport and that was the airport I arrived and departed from in Germany. Not a horrible club but not worthy a visit. I made 2 reports when I was there, make a research.
Heavensgate is a nice FKK. Good club, was there twice and it is worthy a visit, cheaper prices than average. There is also one partytreff in Dorsten very close to Heavensgate, named Partytreff Dorsten, again check the proper thread. Never been there, it gets mixed reviews here. If I were in your shoes would pay a visit.
Please report your visits to the club.
Tb69
I know it is an unusal point, but I have allergies to tree pollen and this is the allergy season here in Canada. I assume that it is also now spring in Germany so the trees are pollenating there as well. Does anyone know if now is also the allergy season in Germany? Does anyone have allergies and know if they got better or worse in Germany? Thanks.Unfortunately, Germany has also the same seasonality for polen allergies. They publish every year, for different parts of the country, a calendar where you may find which kind of polens can affect in which time slice of a year.
You may find this calendar on the pharmacies (I guess they call it "Apotheke" in German) and you may also find the necessary cure for each allergia, in these Apothekes.
I know it is an unusal point, but I have allergies to tree pollen and this is the allergy season here in Canada. I assume that it is also now spring in Germany so the trees are pollenating there as well. Does anyone know if now is also the allergy season in Germany? Does anyone have allergies and know if they got better or worse in Germany? Thanks.Not only does the act of fornication abound in Germany's FKK clubs, but at the moment a myriad of trees and other flora are ubiquitously and enthusiastically fornicating (actually humping like bunnies!) throughout Germany's soft, spring air.
In other words; Yep, there's much pollen to be seen and inhaled here at the moment.
Cheers,
Dedalus
In other words; Yep, there's much pollen to be seen and inhaled here at the moment.
Cheers,
DedalusBesides the last month almost no rain has fallen. Most cars are covered with a thin layer of pollen dust. I would wellcome some rain. But not Today because then I will be in LR : ).
B30
http://www.penthouse-saunaclub.de/
Again a new Saunaclub, they open Today.
B30
http://www.penthouse-saunaclub.de/
Again a new Saunaclub, they open Today.
B30The address is the same as.
Saunaclub Atrium (http://www.saunaclub-atrium.de/)
And.
Hareme Platinum (http://www.harem-platinum.de)
Flatrate club. I guess Penthouse is the new incarnation of Atrium.
The address is the same as.
Saunaclub Atrium (http://www.saunaclub-atrium.de/)
And.
Hareme Platinum (http://www.harem-platinum.de)
Flatrate club. I guess Penthouse is the new incarnation of Atrium. Adress is almost the same. This is really a new Saunaclub (but in the same building) entrance is about 90 meters from the Flatrate Club Harem entrance so I was told yesterday. But it is indeed a little confusing. From what I understood Harem (Flatrate) will still exist.
B30
I plan to stay at Mercure Hotel Kaiserhof Frankfurt City Center (near the Frankfurt main train station) because I think it's easy for me to use the public transportation to reach Oase, Palace and Mainhattan FKK clubs. I don't know if this is a good hotel for tourists.
I appreciate any advice.
Not sure if anyone's commented on this site yet: http://www.fkk24.de/
Use your favorite online translator and you'll find a FKK map, events list, informational pages for each FKK w / links, phone, hours, parking, price, etc.
Cheers!
Should I try to catch a cab from the frankfurt airport to the main train station?
Is the airport very far from the main train station?
I know there is a train that goes from the airport to the main train station, but I will have my luggage with me and I would rather take a cab if it is not too far.
Is the airport very far from the main train station?My iPod Maps App. Says it is 15. 1 km between the two & estimates travel time @ 15 Min. I guess that would depend on traffic & when you are traveling.
I know there is a train that goes from the airport to the main train station, but I will have my luggage with me and I would rather take a cab if it is not too far.How much 'luggage' can you have? I have easily transported 1 large suitcase (with wheels) on the train. A lot of people do it.
Myr.
London Traveller
05-12-11, 23:30
Not only does the act of fornication abound in Germany's FKK clubs, but at the moment a myriad of trees and other flora are ubiquitously and enthusiastically fornicating (actually humping like bunnies!) throughout Germany's soft, spring air.
In other words; Yep, there's much pollen to be seen and inhaled here at the moment.
Cheers,
DedalusI think that allergies are fairly international, although it will depend on what exactly you are allergic to and how much of that stuff is present in the country you are visiting. What I have personally noticed is that although my allergy season is usually June. This year it has begun already and I suspect that this is due to the unseasonably warm weather, so hopefully I will not be sneezing / coughing / eyes watering when I visit Frankfurt and the lovely gardens of Oase next month.
I think that allergies are fairly international, although it will depend on what exactly you are allergic to and how much of that stuff is present in the country you are visiting. What I have personally noticed is that although my allergy season is usually June. This year it has begun already and I suspect that this is due to the unseasonably warm weather, so hopefully I will not be sneezing / coughing / eyes watering when I visit Frankfurt and the lovely gardens of Oase next month.All you can really hope for is some rain to keep the pollen levels down.
Vito Corleone
05-13-11, 01:37
Should I try to catch a cab from the frankfurt airport to the main train station?
Is the airport very far from the main train station?
I know there is a train that goes from the airport to the main train station, but I will have my luggage with me and I would rather take a cab if it is not too far.10 minute train ride from the airport to the main station. 3.90e vs. 20-25e
Should I try to catch a cab from the frankfurt airport to the main train station?
Is the airport very far from the main train station?
I know there is a train that goes from the airport to the main train station, but I will have my luggage with me and I would rather take a cab if it is not too far.You can take the luggage on the trolley right upto the Platform (I guess platform number 1)
You can buy ticket on the vending machine or from the counter, if I remember correctly it is third stop from airport.
The cab to central Frankfurt will be around Euro 25 and the train depending on the time of the day close to Euro 8.
You can buy tageskarte which will entitle you to travel anywhere on central circuit till midnight.
Cheers!
Two weeks ago, I was in NRW and Hessen. Even in may, the sun was burning, kt was hot like hell, I was tanned. And some of the girls was near the pool, even they swam, in Dolce Vita, Planet and Oase.
Now, I am in Berlin, still hot even partly rainy, I guess this sommer will be rocking the FKK scene, which have nice outdoor facilities?
Hessen Bub
05-21-11, 13:18
I guess this sommer will be rocking the FKK scene, which have nice outdoor facilities?Like every summer for the last decade.
HB
I am visiting FKK clubs in Nord Rhein Westfallen in the period June 2 till June 5th (plane back in the early evening of the 5th).
I have not made up my mind entirely about which clubs to visit yet. Except that Goldentime and Villa Vertigo is on the list. I have a rental car to get around in and a portable GPS.
If any English speakers or Scandinavian language speakers wants to meet up please send me a PM. Sometimes it can be a bit boring in between sessions.
Does anybody have recommendations for which 3rd club to visit? I will recommend a visit to Samya. The line-up last Saturday was very good. The grill food is tasty, the beer is free and the partyfeeling is on most of the nights. Clean and well run club. Do'nt go to Samya on the 2 of June, they have a Theme-night and the club will be packed.
An other favourite of mine is Acapulco. Arrive early and the entrance in only 25E, and it's 40E per half hour. Good line-up on my visit the day before yesterday (22/5) with great vareity.
It would have been great to meet up with a fellow scandinavian, but I will not visit NRW until July.
Ha det kul!
T
Treble Machine
05-30-11, 15:20
So guys, in the not so distant future I might have the chance to spend some time at a FKK with some female company.
Straight to the point. How does it work? I remember Artemis would not accept couples but what's the deal with the Frankfurt FKK's? Are couples allowed?
I think I have seen a few regular couples during my visits but never bother to go beyond that and verify.
I remember a few girls filling some paper work@World. Is it required for all females?
Hessen Bub
05-30-11, 21:51
what's the deal with the Frankfurt FKK's? Are couples allowed?Oase does allow couples 100, for World and Palace I am not quite sure.
I remember a few girls filling some paper work@World. Is it required for all females?No paper work needed. If the female is a guest and does not have sex with other guys than you for money. She will also use the men's locker room.
HB
Frej Of Asgaard
05-30-11, 22:31
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It would have been great to meet up with a fellow scandinavian, but I will not visit NRW until July.
Ha det kul!
TThanks for the tipsTjohoo and others.
I have a luxury problem now. So many potential clubs to visit and so little time
Treble Machine
05-31-11, 09:23
Oase does allow couples 100, for World and Palace I am not quite sure.
No paper work needed. If the female is a guest and does not have sex with other guys than you for money. She will also use the men's locker room.
HBThanks, Bub. I will try and ask World about it.
Thanks, Bub. I will try and ask World about it.I remember visiting World and a striking girl was hanging out with a guy by the poolside. She was in a bikini and the lady at the front desk came out on the deck and told her she had to go nude. The girl took her top off for a moment until the lady went away but it was quickly back on. I never saw her go with any other guy so I'm not sure if she was a guest or a working girl. Either way, when you ask World you might want to find out what your lady has to wear or not to wear if she wants to visit the club.
Hessen Bub
06-02-11, 12:57
Could we move this discussion of the E. Coli epidemic into the General Info thread?Here's an article from Spiegel ONLINE in English:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0.1518, 765777, 00. Html.
If you want to be safe, stay away from raw vegetables, especially salad, tomatoes, cucumbers. Everything that is cooked or grilled or not a vegetable should be safe. I would not call it an epidemic, most of the case do somehow have a relation to northern Germany. I'd say there's a minimal or no risk for a healthy person below 70 years. IMHO.
HB
http://www.rp-online.de/gesundheit/Wie-schuetze-ich-mich-vor-EHEC-Erregern_bid_65230.html
"How to protect against EHEC", it is in German. When I remember well there also was a case in Hessen but mostly it is indeed close to Hamburg and Bremen in the North of Germany.
Most victims are female and older but not all.
B30
Hessen Bub
06-02-11, 19:31
. When I remember well there also was a case in Hessen but mostly it is indeed close to Hamburg and Bremen in the North of Germany.There's infections in other parts of Germany. What I meant is that almost all people infected have been travelling to Northern Germany before.
HB
Hessen Bub
06-02-11, 20:23
This article is in German but it shows a map where the infections have occurred:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltgeschehen/article13408942/Tausende-EHEC-Ansteckungen-allein-im-Norden.html
HB
This article is in German but it shows a map where the infections have occurred:
HBThe trend is clear. The word Hilflosigkeit in the article also says a lot. The doctors are desperated, do not know what to do.
B30
Hey guys what is your opinion on the E coli breakout that started in Germany?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/world/europe/04ecoli.html
Would it put you off visiting the country and the clubs?
Hey guys what is your opinion on the E coli breakout that started in Germany?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/world/europe/04ecoli.html
Would it put you off visiting the country and the clubs? Alert has been lowered a lot.
It should be only in the area of Hamburg, no human-human propagation, just via some foods. Probably water involved.
I wouldn't worry.
I'll be in the Koln area in a couple of weeks.
Ciao
Gfe Finder
06-03-11, 14:35
Hey guys what is your opinion on the E coli breakout that started in Germany?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/world/europe/04ecoli.html
Would it put you off visiting the country and the clubs? It didn't this past week. And I also had some salads, too! :eek: I'm still doing OK so far.
Hey guys what is your opinion on the E coli breakout that started in Germany?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/world/europe/04ecoli.html
Would it put you off visiting the country and the clubs? Just say no to rabbit food LOL.
Treble Machine.
Just to confirm. There is no problem with couples going to World. It is not common but does happen occasionally. Nobody will bat an eyelid. The girl will not have to do any paperwork, will use the main lockers, and can wear as little as she wishes (in practice the minimum should be a towel around the waist to make it clear she is not available for business) She must not pick any men up unless she wants to cause a problem with the service providers.
Cordelia started out this way with one visit as a reconnaissance. The girls were actually friendly to her
This article is in German but it shows a map where the infections have occurred:
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/weltgeschehen/article13408942/Tausende-EHEC-Ansteckungen-allein-im-Norden.html
HBWhat does it say about my sick mind and my priorities that when I read the article I did so with rapt interest, until seeing the "Blondinen-Parade füare den guten Zweck" Schlagzeile? One look at the photo and I lost all interest in the well being of my fellow man.
Cheers,
Dedalus, who is quite ashamed of himself
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