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Hessen Bub
11-27-11, 08:54
Her pics are heavily photoshopped. So . Hard to tell what she really looks like. And yes, you'll find girls in that category at World and Oase, also with good service.

HB

Mel365
11-28-11, 01:48
Your mailbox is full

Ortos
12-20-11, 17:45
This same thing happened to me last year with Dollar / Thrifty at Terminal 2 Frankfurt Airport. I later sensed it was some kind of scam. Since then I severly try to avoid this company altogether.

As I posted below, I booked on the Internet a car rental from Sixt. Com (English language site, not the Sixt. De) and I was given an option to get winter tyres for an extra cost. I selected NOT to get this option. I am trying to understand how they force you to get the winter tyres if it is listed as an extra option during the registration process on their website. So if you have to have the winter tyres, why list it as an "option" giving people a chance to opt out of it, like I did?

The proof will come in two days when I show up at their desk and check out the car. If they add the surcharge I will argue as best I can not to pay it. If they insist, I may well cancel the whole reservation. We'll see. I still expect them to accept the total price (without winter tyres) agreed to on the web site offer. I note that they already charged my credit card for that relatively low (tyreless) amount.

OJust a brief follow-up from a discussion about one month ago:

I did go to Germany in late November-early Dec. The Sixt car hire did NOT force me to take winter tyres. I was charged exactly what was agreed to when I booked the car on the Internet. In fact, I had pre-paid the car hire when I booked about one month earlier, so how could they charge me without adding an extra charge at the desk? It was great. They gave me a brand new Audi, with diesel as I reqested. For all I know, perhaps the car came with winter tyres already at no extra charge! There was even Nav, which I did not order and it came gratis! All in all, I was quite pleased with Sixt. What a world away from Thrifty.

O

Nille Copenhagen
12-20-11, 20:52
I wonder why we hardly see Italien women at the FKK clubs. (But lots of Italien guys)

The ones I've met who claimed to be from Italy are Romanian imposters.

Anyone have a good explanation?

Member #4243
12-22-11, 00:59
1) italy is a strict catholic country where a lot of the girls are still under social and religious restraints maybe more so than other western european countries. It may prove scandalous for the family of an italian girl to be in an fkk club for eg. This also explains the lack.

Of pay for play in italy hence why the italian guys jump the border to germany.

2) italy is (putting aside the current economic troubles) one of west europes's leaders both economically and in terms of infrastructure and gdp etc. Hence for italian girls to migrate to work in fkk clubs and similar in search of economic reward is not really needed as education and jobs are

available for true italian born nationals. In much the same way that girls who "work" in japan are doing it for extra money for fashion etc and not to survive as japan again is a leader economically in SE asia, whereas in countries such as Thailand, Phillipines etc the girls are working there

to survive in much the same way that eastern european girls from rumania and bulgaria are as two poorer eastern european countries. This does not mean one cannot find true italian working girls in italy but i would think it would be more tricky to find them.

Angus Magee
12-22-11, 01:05
Anyone have a good explanation?And-at Artemis anyway-they would always be running into their brothers and / or father. It would be awkward.

AM

Kimino
12-22-11, 06:33
I wonder why we hardly see Italien women at the FKK clubs. (But lots of Italien guys)

The ones I've met who claimed to be from Italy are Romanian imposters.

Anyone have a good explanation?Hi.

Mohab gave good answers, although point 2 is definitely stronger. Catholic impact is less stronger than that, especially in north, luckily.

99% of the prostitutes in Italy are from eastern europe, brazil or other countries. Similarly to Artemis but wo the germans, obviously. The very few Italians are usually high class, very expensive, escorts.

Prostitution is illegal but WIDELY available.

Of the guys that I know, All go to germany (or Austria) because the setup in places like fkks and similar is much more relaxed. It's legal, it's protected, it's cheap, it's out of the way.

Kimino

Nille Copenhagen
12-22-11, 10:24
99% of the prostitutes in Italy are from eastern europe, brazil or other countries. Similarly to Artemis but wo the germans, obviously. The very few Italians are usually high class, very expensive, escorts.I don't think is linked to religion, for example Brazil, Spain. Are also very religious.

So only 1% pro in Italy are real Italian women (Berlusconi got half of them)?

That's sound very little too me, so Italian women are not interesting in making money this way.

I remember there was an Italian porn actress at Villa Vertigo sometimes ago.

Creature2
12-22-11, 16:03
I read today in French Forum, that FKK Planet (Duren) has been raid by police forces (involving even an helicopter and other sorta heavy gears and also SWAT teams). And some punters had handcuffed for a while! What the fuck! We go to those places to relax, not to be handcuff or not being put as partner of a crime organisation.

The poster says he had some remains at his wrist because of plastic handcuffs. I can't imagine how a man can explain those injuries to her wife;"Hey honey, I joined volunterly to the army!"

http://www.polizei.nrw.de/presse/portal/rhein-erft-kreis/111222-090900-40-418/durchsuchungen-in-dueren-koeln-und-im-rhein-erft-kreisr

The subjected charge is maybe human trafficing; two girls forced to worked unvolunteraly or work with no paper at all. The forum poster think this club is run by Hells Angel.

I have a free entry ticket which is still available till the 4th of January, but can't land to Germany before February.

Hedonian
12-22-11, 20:15
last time when i was in fkk land i rented car. two months afterwards comes in strange small charge from sixt on my card. they told me it is inquiry about the driver from the authorities about traffic violation and that i will be contacted by them. i cannot remember any violation but i guess it must be some speed camera that caught me somewhere. i used my us license and passport to rent the car.

does anyone know what will happen now? will they pursue me overseas to pay the ticket or will they just drop it since i am out of eu? will i have problems renting car next time in germany? feedback is appreciated, thank you all.

h

Nille Copenhagen
12-22-11, 22:30
The subjected charge is maybe human trafficing; two girls forced to worked unvolunteraly or work with no paper at all. The forum poster think this club is run by Hells Angel.

I have a free entry ticket which is still available till the 4th of January, but can't land to Germany before February.Don't be naive most clubs have connection to HA.

And some girls have a debt to pay back.

The police makes those raid once and a while try to keep things balanced.

Normally the police let the guest go.

Kimino
12-23-11, 16:17
I don't think is linked to religion, for example Brazil, Spain. Are also very religious.

So only 1% pro in Italy are real Italian women (Berlusconi got half of them)?

That's sound very little too me, so Italian women are not interesting in making money this way.

I remember there was an Italian porn actress at Villa Vertigo sometimes ago.Do you see many French, Swiss, Swedish, Spanish, English, etc. Girls in fkks or german clubs?

Anyways take e a look at these sites. These are the major (I think) sites regarding escorts in italy, following the banners will take you to the agencies.

I bet you will have real difficulties to find italian girls. To find these, you will have to go to bars and discos with someone that knows the places, and there's lot's of them.

http://www.escortforum.net/

http://www.rosarossa.com/

Kimino

Mike De H
12-24-11, 12:17
Do you see many French, Swiss, Swedish, Spanish, English, etc. Girls in fkks or german clubs?No. Not really.

Sebans
12-24-11, 14:16
Hi.

Prostitution is illegal but WIDELY available.

KiminoProstitution is NOT illegal in italy, but is illegal the exploitation of prostitution.

Toscana
12-29-11, 12:46
Time for a review of the year.

It's been a great one for me. I always grade the girls I take to the room on a descending scale of 1-4, one being magnificent, for whatever reason. Out of over seventy new girls met, over half made it into this top category. Never had such a high proportion. I guess I'm either getting soft in my old age (hmm, on reflection maybe that's an unwise expression) or I'm finally getting round to making some better choices, LOL. Only six girls this year landed in the 'WTF are you doing in this business? You can extract the EUR 50 note from my bum crack' category. All the others were otherwise in the 'pretty good' or 'standard service' slots. So, to repeat, a golden year.

Interestingly, all six of those girls in the bummer category (FKK or otherwise) I met at Oase, my favourite club. (But also see Top Ten). OK, I go there fairly regularly, but nowhere else did I have a failure in 2011. Curious, huh?

Also notable was the fact that I had more good experiences in Germany outside the FKKs than in them. I don't mean on the Autobahn. I've just found some real rich pastures elsewhere. I don't think that standards are slipping at the FKKs. On the contrary.

Other reflections perhaps worth the comment are that the line-ups at many of the clubs I visit improved optically considerably this last year, not least at Oase. Stupendous for most of the second half of the year. But also at World and at smaller clubs. Quality of service too. It was noticeable that there was a higher girl to man ratio often. Just great. Competition improves quality, I guess. And fewer room waits. No less significant was the fact that, à mon avis and contrary to what many think, the Romanian factions were really good. I no longer avoid them; I'm often looking for them, towel stirring, tongue on floor. They've always ticked my boxes for looks, but service is no longer a lottery. This is all subjective of course. The Russians came up trumps again for me this year too.

Top ten at the FKKs (really, really difficult to choose), in descending order:

1. Cheryl, Hungary, Artemis.

2. Dina, Russia, Oase.

3. Dorothe, Poland, Oase.

4. Adina, Romania, Oase.

5. Isabell, Romania, World.

6. Lera, Russia, Oase.

7. Hilary, Poland, Artemis.

8. Delia, Romania, Neunkirchen.

9. Rebecca, Romania, Neunkirchen.

10. Larissa, Romania, Oase.

Unbelievable chemistry with all of them. All ten from Eastern Europe, which I guess tells you something about the line-ups and my tastes. Only the top three make it into my overall top ten.

So which were your highlights at the clubs this year? I will take note, be assured.

Creature2
12-29-11, 17:22
Hi Toscana,

Thank you for listing your Top Ten. I also take notes of them.

My memory is not so powerful like yours, in oder to recall a good session I had 8 monts ago, but as far as I remember, I had good times in German FKKs this 2011 and also in some clubs of Swiss (Globe is a must to repeat)

Therefore I don't have a list of Top Ten but Top Five (BTW, I have discarded some girls I repeat regularly in every visit, such as Hannah (FKK Oase) , Sarita (FKK Point) even they provide good level of service, this is due to open a place for new gems.

Creature's Top Five (2011)

1) Madeline, Russia (ACA)

2) Isabella, Romania (ACA)

3) Roberta, Hungary, (FKK Planet. Duren) she quits now.

3) Luisa, Romnia, (FKK Monte Carlo)

4) Lana, Russia, (Dolce Vita - Dusseldorf)

5) Yvette, Hungary, (Osae)

5) Christina, Moldavia (Oase)

So, when I check the nationalities of those Top Five, I can safely say that we had a common taste.

Creature2
12-29-11, 17:32
6. Lera, Russia, Oase.Can you please describe this Russian girl. Because I met a Russian girl named Lera two years ago in FKK World, then, I can't locate her any more. She had short red (acajou) hairs, nice big and plump lips. She can' speak English but know she lives in Munich. I even checked Colleseum in Augsburg but she wasn't there either. I have been three times this summer time in Oase but didn't see her. If this is the same Russian Lera that you have encountered, so, I should check the next Frankfurt flights, asap.

Toscana
12-29-11, 20:38
Can you please describe this Russian girl. Because I met a Russian girl named Lera two years ago in FKK World, then, I can't locate her any more. She had short red (acajou) hairs, nice big and plump lips. She can' speak English but know she lives in Munich. I even checked Colleseum in Augsburg but she wasn't there either. I have been three times this summer time in Oase but didn't see her. If this is the same Russian Lera that you have encountered, so, I should check the next Frankfurt flights, asap.Described here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1181841&viewfull=1#post1181841

Can't be sure it's yours. But I have also not seen her since.

Jymondor
01-01-12, 18:41
Folk, I believe I already asked this question while ago. Bot not positive in that.

As an example FKK Harem has two quests room you can stay overnight. I also googled street-view of FKK Babylon in Hamburg. They also have hotel attached to the FKK and carrying the same name.

What other clubs offer overnight stay with hotel-style rooms?

Thanks

Creature2
01-02-12, 10:12
Described here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1181841&viewfull=1#post1181841

Can't be sure it's yours. But I have also not seen her since.%100 perfect match with the description (good kisser, age 30+, brown hair). Hope I can find her this new year. I am not sure she stayed in Oase for a long time, she might check in and check out for a couple of weeks, because I visited Oase last summer many times. Maybe she works in Hessen clubs only in summer time. I recall I saw her in World also in summer '09 then this Russian lady vanished.

Creature2
01-02-12, 10:13
Folk, I believe I already asked this question while ago. Bot not positive in that.

As an example FKK Harem has two quests room you can stay overnight. I also googled street-view of FKK Babylon in Hamburg. They also have hotel attached to the FKK and carrying the same name.

What other clubs offer overnight stay with hotel-style rooms?

Thanks
Villa Vertigo might be an option.

Victorv
01-03-12, 10:24
Happy new year to everybody.

At the end of January I will be in Dusseldorf and Koln area for 3-4 days. As I am rookie in FKK Clubs, could you suggest me which clubs should I visit (3 or 4 best clubs)? I will rent a car, so I can go to any club near to this area.

I am waiting your suggestions.

Thanks,

Victor

Nille Copenhagen
01-03-12, 18:33
Happy new year to everybody.

At the end of January I will be in Dusseldorf and Koln area for 3-4 days. As I am rookie in FKK Clubs, could you suggest me which clubs should I visit (3 or 4 best clubs)? I will rent a car, so I can go to any club near to this area.

I am waiting your suggestions.

Thanks,

VictorToo easy to ask.

RTFF.

I have some hints for you: GT, LR, VV PHG, Samya, DV, Brends, PSR.

Hessen Bub
01-03-12, 18:46
Acapulco, Velbert.

GoldenTime, Brüggen and LivingRoom, Kaarst in one day.

Villa Vertigo, Grefrath.

Samya, Cologne.

HB

Kimino
01-03-12, 21:32
Hi. This is going to happen in a few months but thought I could ask right away. Only been to Palace and Mainhattan once some time ago so very little experience.

I will be driving to Fra with a couple of friends, coming from Stuttgart on a Sunday afternoon. We will be heading to Berlin on the next day so don't want to stay up too late.

I think Sunday is generally a slow day, but what you think would be the best club to visit (excluding Oase) , in the late afternoon, early evening?

I'm obviously looking for the best lineup possible.

Thanks for any help.

Kimino

Nille Copenhagen
01-03-12, 21:53
Hi. This is going to happen in a few months but thought I could ask right away. Only been to Palace and Mainhattan once some time ago so very little experience.

I will be driving to Fra with a couple of friends, coming from Stuttgart on a Sunday afternoon. We will be heading to Berlin on the next day so don't want to stay up too late.

I think Sunday is generally a slow day, but what you think would be the best club to visit (excluding Oase) , in the late afternoon, early evening?

I'm obviously looking for the best lineup possible.

Thanks for any help.

KiminoI've visited Palace on Sundays, it's quite but still enough beautiful ladies, and they are willing to spend more time with you on a slow Sunday than busy Fre-Sat.

The shark factor is much lower on a slow Sunday.

These clubs are not in the direction of Berlin, but.

VV, GT are also nice on a quite Sunday.

Nille

Hannibal Barca
01-05-12, 01:14
Happy new year to everybody.

At the end of January I will be in Dusseldorf and Koln area for 3-4 days. As I am rookie in FKK Clubs, could you suggest me which clubs should I visit (3 or 4 best clubs)? I will rent a car, so I can go to any club near to this area.

I am waiting your suggestions.

Thanks,

VictorAve Victor,

If I was to allocate one different club for each day then it would be:

Golden Time.

Villa Vertigo.

Living Room.

Samya.

Swap Living Room for Bernds if you do not mind how good looking your tutes are.

The order of club visits will be adjusted by the day of the week that the tour began and also whether a trade fair was on.

Hannibal Barca
01-05-12, 01:22
Hi. This is going to happen in a few months but thought I could ask right away. Only been to Palace and Mainhattan once some time ago so very little experience.

I will be driving to Fra with a couple of friends, coming from Stuttgart on a Sunday afternoon. We will be heading to Berlin on the next day so don't want to stay up too late.

I think Sunday is generally a slow day, but what you think would be the best club to visit (excluding Oase) , in the late afternoon, early evening?

I'm obviously looking for the best lineup possible.

Thanks for any help.

KiminoAve citizen Kimino,

I would recommend Mainhattan as a most excellent club for a half day visit.

The club has everything from wellness, to a well stocked bar and I rate the food at Mainhattan better than that cooked at World. Also on a Sundays there is a featured Sunday brunch menu. I have always found that proportionately that the Mainhattan has a lot for the smaller numbers it has. The girls are relatively non animated and as such do not hunt their customers. The girls leave you alone and wait to be approached. So a highly relaxing atmosphere and the decor is well put together and interesting.

There are always new girls at Mainhattan that I have found. So that also makes it interesting as well.

Victorv
01-05-12, 09:28
Ave Victor,

If I was to allocate one different club for each day then it would be:

Golden Time.

Villa Vertigo.

Living Room.

Samya.

Swap Living Room for Bernds if you do not mind how good looking your tutes are.

The order of club visits will be adjusted by the day of the week that the tour began and also whether a trade fair was on.Thank you for the information Hannibal Barca, Nill Copenhagen and Hessen Bub.

I will be there on 22 (Sunday) .23 (Monday) and 24 (Tuesday) of January.

Could you suggest me which clubs should I visit according to the days?

Also, I will really appreciate if you could give me some names of the girls who offers the best service in these clubs.

Thanks.

Victor

Kimino
01-05-12, 18:38
Ave citizen Kimino,

I would recommend Mainhattan as a most excellent club for a half day visit.thanks Hannibal, Nille!

I'll pass on the info to my friends and let them decide. I'm sure both places wil be fine.

Ciao!

Kimino

Inblr01
01-07-12, 05:12
I visited Dolce Vita, Dusseldorf.

I really liked the club. Its quite relaxed and good proportion of girls Vs customer :-D, Good space I would say and good collection of girls.

Entry is 25 if you are before 1PM and then 35 till 8PM which is quite tempting to see the stuff atleast once.

DO try out. They have website, check out offers and girls are listed there. So have a look and decide if you like that kinda girls.

Inblr01


Happy new year to everybody.

At the end of January I will be in Dusseldorf and Koln area for 3-4 days. As I am rookie in FKK Clubs, could you suggest me which clubs should I visit (3 or 4 best clubs)? I will rent a car, so I can go to any club near to this area.

I am waiting your suggestions.

Thanks,

Victor

BikerDiver34
02-02-12, 11:25
Hi folks,

Following my trip to NRW which covered visits to GT, LR and DV, I was diagnosed gonorrhea. I've been with around 10 ladies during the visit, all the intercourses were with condom, so apparently you can get this shit with BBBJ. Fortunately the cure is quite easy and simple. So the condom does not cover all the risks. However, this experience will not stop me enjoying the FKKs of the NRW.

Diet Coke
02-04-12, 17:59
I know Palace has robes but after doing a search here curious about availability of robes at Oase? Mainhattan? Sharks? Samya?

I have only been to Palace twice and like a robe, especially having pockets.

Horbate
02-04-12, 20:05
Hello, Guys-

I'm heading back to Germany in early April for my annual pilgramage to the Fkk clubs of the greater Frankfurt area. On almost every trip to Europe, I usually have at least one 3-way. I've always had just the "basic" 3-way, with no CIM or no lesbian action, which is essentially your number of girls X the standard rate per amount of time.

If one chooses to CIM with ONE of the ladies, do BOTH ladies receive the "extra" fee, or only the lady that that gets her throat coated?

Thanks in advance to any one of you that is so kind to respond.

Horbate

Hessen Bub
02-04-12, 20:47
- 3some and CIM with one girl. Only one girl get's the CIM bonus.

- robes. Available at Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan. Majority of guys wear robes at Samya.

PROs do wear "Hessendress" = towels. ;)

HB

Breadman
02-04-12, 21:25
- 3some and CIM with one girl. Only one girl get's the CIM bonus.

HBUnless they kiss afterwards.

Hessen Bub
02-04-12, 23:37
Unless they kiss afterwards.If cum swapping wasn't agreed on in advance they can kiss as much as they like, but no extra money from me.

HB

Diet Coke
02-05-12, 00:46
- 3some and CIM with one girl. Only one girl get's the CIM bonus.

- robes. Available at Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan. Majority of guys wear robes at Samya.

PROs do wear "Hessendress" = towels. .

HBThanks HB I had wondered about robes

Breadman
02-05-12, 01:24
Its been brought up here many times about no using thrifty or dollar when renting at the airport. I've also found many negative comments on these agency's on several travel websites (so that's confirmed). I found an acceptable decent rate at Advantage (a single person in the Hertz desk terminal 2). Today I found what seems like a very good deal at Kemwel, a car close to 20% off my rate at Advantage. Problem with Kemwel is you don't know who your renting from until you hit the 'pay' button. And somehow I get the feeling that such a low rate just has to be thrifty or dollar. Question is has anybody here used Kemwel and gotten one of these two rental car companies?

Omogee
02-08-12, 00:15
At the end of February I will be in Chiemsee, Prien area for 3 days. As I am a rookie in FKK Clubs, could you suggest which clubs should I visit that is in that area? I will rent a car, so I can go to any club near to this area.

I am waiting your suggestions.

Thanks,

Omogee

Member #4243
02-08-12, 04:32
The only real fkk club I aware of in Bavaria is fkk colosseum in Augsburg. There may be another fkk near you but I am not aware of it. Simply go to the dbahn train website and type in your start point and Augsburg as your final destination for exact routes and times.

Banana Boi
02-08-12, 07:31
I know Palace has robes but after doing a search here curious about availability of robes at Oase? Mainhattan? Sharks? Samya?

I have only been to Palace twice and like a robe, especially having pockets.No robes at FKK World but looks like guys bring their own. You can also buy a robe there for 35 euro.

What about clubs like GT, LR, VV, etc. Do they have robes?

Capt Dan
02-09-12, 02:19
What about clubs like GT, LR, VV, etc. Do they have robes?Yes robes are available in GT, LR & VV!

Emaregee
02-09-12, 19:27
I have business in Bielefeld in a couple weeks and would like to take advantage of the trip to visit a FKK. Here are my questions.

I will arrive a day in advance of need to be in Bielefeld. Should I plan fly into Frankfurt or Duesseldorf? Frankfurt seems to be the FKK capital, are the clubs there significantly better than Duesseldorf?

My plans are to arrive Sunday morning. If I plan a Sunday afternoon at the FKK, what will the environment be like? Will I need to find my hotel prior to visiting to store luggage, or can some secure arrangements be made at the club?

Is there anything of note in Bielefeld? An FKK? In call or out call agency? Independent girls?

Any insight would be most appreciated.

Member #4243
02-11-12, 13:23
My advise is to find your hotel and get that out of the way first so all is relaxed. For a truly authentic fkk experience I strongly suggest you head for fkk oase which is about 30 km out of the centre. This may mean an investment of around 40 euros each way in a cab but considering this may be a one off for you it is well worth the expense as you may spend easily upto 3 times in the club. I constantly hear of people trying to shave off 10 euros here and there with travel etc but for someone who only gets out to germany twice a year this is peanuts. By the way oase is the only club with a consistently strong Sunday lineup of eager beauties which is what this game is all about.

Enjoy.

Banana Boi
02-11-12, 20:19
Which Frankfurt area FKK would I find the most German girls? For a reference, I like Tessa and Marie from Oase.

Hessen Bub
02-12-12, 13:20
World: Janet, Janine, Marie, Anastasia plus one or two others.

Oase: Marie, Tessa, Shanna, Johanna, Jenny, Mina, Nina, Ricarda and more.

Palace: Joy, Patricia, Saskia, Dilara (Turkish by origin) plus some others.

Mainhattan: Lana, Charleen and some others.

It's between the first three where you find the most German girls in FFM area. But if you take Marie / Tessa as a reference. That will be difficult to match lookswise.

HB

Hedonian
02-12-12, 16:50
It's between the first three where you find the most German girls in FFM area. But if you take Marie / Tessa as a reference. That will be difficult to match lookswise.

HBHB,

A list of standard GFE providers, like this one, would be great to know for FRA clubs and NRW clubs as well.

In Oase I know of Judith (hu) , Gabriela (vz) , and girl from Brasil (did not remember her name).

In Palace I know of Bee (th) (retired). I do not remember much more than that.

H

Gergiev
02-13-12, 05:05
At the end of February I will be in Chiemsee, Prien area for 3 days. As I am a rookie in FKK Clubs, could you suggest which clubs should I visit that is in that area? I will rent a car, so I can go to any club near to this area.

The only real fkk club I aware of in Bavaria is fkk colosseum in Augsburg. There may be another fkk near you but I am not aware of it.The nearest FKKs to Prien are across the border in Austria; the Atlantis at Kufstein and FKK Mystic which is just outside Salzburg.

These are much closer than The Colosseum in Augsburg or Hawaii in Ingolstadt.

The nearest sexed-up town to Prien is Rosenheim which has a few 'night clubs', some brothels and many freelancers.

But, in general, this is a very conservative part of Bavaria and Germany.

Banana Boi
02-13-12, 05:23
It's between the first three where you find the most German girls in FFM area. But if you take Marie / Tessa as a reference. That will be difficult to match lookswise.

HBThanks HB. You're always so helpful. Maybe I spotted the Oase and World girls last month but they weren't up to my standards to go with them. Hoping to be at both clubs later this week so we be on the lookout for those names.

Wish I could carry my cell phone around the club with me so I can search ISG while relaxing. LOL

CoupleAwesome
02-13-12, 19:00
Hi Friends. I am planning a visit to Germany in next few weeks. I am coming from Dubai and would like to visit Oasis as I have heard a number of rave reviews about the same. I am looking forward for some general guidance as to some hotels near Oasis where I could stay close. Also if you could let me know the cost of taxi rates from Frankfurt airport to the hotels near Oasis (approximate cost) it will help me in my planning.

I was looking into what kind of weather it would be in March-April time frame. I see that Oasis has outdoor area. Will that be put to use in March-April?

Thank you dear friends! Take care.

Sucker17
02-13-12, 20:33
Hi Friends. I am planning a visit to Germany in next few weeks. I am coming from Dubai and would like to visit Oasis as I have heard a number of rave reviews about the same. I am looking forward for some general guidance as to some hotels near Oasis where I could stay close. Also if you could let me know the cost of taxi rates from Frankfurt airport to the hotels near Oasis (approximate cost) it will help me in my planning.

I was looking into what kind of weather it would be in March-April time frame. I see that Oasis has outdoor area. Will that be put to use in March-April?

Thank you dear friends! Take care.Hi! First of all let me just point out that the correct name is FKK Oase, not Oasis (like the band or juice). These questions have already been answered numerous times before if you just search the thread.

I don't have any experiences from the hotels close to Oase, because I've normally stayed in the city centre or closer to FKK Palace (Ibis City West). But you'll find some hotels here in Friedrichsdorf which is only 9 euros cabride from Oase:

http://www.booking.com/searchresults.no.html?aid=310020;label=friedrichsdorf-ynRIfkunczy*y3wBSDpl0QS7611787686;sid=7aad3d08cb6ff85ce8a6e862fd76d88f;dcid=1;city=-1772058;redirected_from_city=1

I personally enjoy hotels closer to Frankfurt, since the S-bahn ride towards Friedrichsdorf only cost like 4, 10 euros.

Somebody else have to answer your question about outdoortime in March-April as I only know Oase from wintertime, for the moment! Should be great though, judging from the great garden area! Happy hunting, but remember to report!

CoupleAwesome
02-13-12, 20:48
Thank you very much for correcting my spell. It is always good. Since I am traveling International and will have big bags, do you recommend taking the public transportation or take taxi? Do you know which is the city that is closer to FKK Oase? In that way I can search the net for hotels near by.

Also, if some fellow freinds could give me an update on weather around Arpil end in Frankfurt and how the outdoor area will be it would be great!

Any additional tips you could give regarding transportation to FKK Oase will be beneficial.

And yes, I did search the thread for these specifics and could not find any suitable information.

Thanks again and sure to post back my adventures.


Hi! First of all let me just point out that the correct name is FKK Oase, not Oasis (like the band or juice). These questions have already been answered numerous times before if you just search the thread.

I don't have any experiences from the hotels close to Oase, because I've normally stayed in the city centre or closer to FKK Palace (Ibis City West). But you'll find some hotels here in Friedrichsdorf which is only 9 euros cabride from Oase:

http://www.booking.com/searchresults.no.html?aid=310020;label=friedrichsdorf-ynRIfkunczy*y3wBSDpl0QS7611787686;sid=7aad3d08cb6ff85ce8a6e862fd76d88f;dcid=1;city=-1772058;redirected_from_city=1

I personally enjoy hotels closer to Frankfurt, since the S-bahn ride towards Friedrichsdorf only cost like 4, 10 euros.

Somebody else have to answer your question about outdoortime in March-April as I only know Oase from wintertime, for the moment! Should be great though, judging from the great garden area! Happy hunting, but remember to report!

Free Dude
02-13-12, 21:54
The downside of staying in Frankfurt (if you use public transport) is that you either leave the club before midnight or stay till 5 am (last and first S-bahn). What hotels is concerned, there are a bunch in Friedrichsdorf and Bad Homburg. Easiest is hotel Mercure which is a short walk from Friedrichsdorf station and less than 10 euros by cab from Oase (there are usually plenty of cabs waiting). If you are fairly early, it is 42 E for a single room (excl. An expensive breakfast). Across from this hotel you have hotel Hugenotengarten; I booked here for my next trip for 48 E; since Mercure was al booked up. I also stayed at As Salaam apart hotel (which has seen better days) , a few meters down the road from Mercure, as a walk in after I refused to pay 95 E to extend my stay at Mercure. I'm sure there are a few more hotels nearby. Booking. Com and trivago are your friends.

There is also a small pension about half a mile from the club in Burgholzhausen. It is called Pension Wall (30 E if I remember correctly) and doesn't have a website. If you google you might find a phone number, but I'm not to sure about their English. I really wouldn't recommend this place, furniture is old, smoking is allowed in the rooms and it seems like they are actively try to avoid Oase guests: check out at 10 am (I'm not sure about their strictness, since I was told to 'just leave the key in the room after I left) and breakfast (only mon-fri) until 7. 30 am.

I usually start out with Mercure; and if that doesn't work I look further.

Pana Nyc
02-14-12, 10:15
Fellas I'm looking to do the FKK's for 2-3 nights doing a quick lay over next week, in those amount of days which 2-3 FKK's are a must to hit during that time and also have any of you stayed at these 2 hotels Frankfurt Marriott Hotel or Courtyard Frankfurt NordWestZentrum, which one of these hotels are close to any FKKs and near the red light district? Also can I bring my own personal bath robe in some of these FKK's? From what I have read you can, Thanks.

Diet Coke
02-14-12, 18:03
Fellas I'm looking to do the FKK's for 2-3 nights doing a quick lay over next week, in those amount of days which 2-3 FKK's are a must to hit during that time and also have any of you stayed at these 2 hotels Frankfurt Marriott Hotel or Courtyard Frankfurt NordWestZentrum, which one of these hotels are close to any FKKs and near the red light district? Also can I bring my own personal bath robe in some of these FKK's? From what I have read you can, Thanks.Marriott has tram stop directly across street from it, so you can connect to all public transit.

Strato
02-16-12, 06:40
Fellas I'm looking to do the FKK's for 2-3 nights doing a quick lay over next week, in those amount of days which 2-3 FKK's are a must to hit during that time and also have any of you stayed at these 2 hotels Frankfurt Marriott Hotel or Courtyard Frankfurt NordWestZentrum, which one of these hotels are close to any FKKs and near the red light district? Also can I bring my own personal bath robe in some of these FKK's? From what I have read you can, Thanks.Try the Hotel Monopol, right acoss street from Haubtfanhoff. 65-75 E, assuming that there is not a Messe going on.

Includes deluxe buffet Breakfast, free minibar (refilled daily). Free wireless (in room) and also computers in business center.

Not superdeluxe, but clean, friendly staff and some old world charm. Book though their website.

I used to stay at Savoy Hotel, also a few minutes walk from Haubtbanhoff (85 E) but they started to charge 20 E for their breakfast buffett,

Which used to be included in room rate. (with complimentary Mimosas@. Also their Low priced rooms have thin type mattress's. Rock hard. On the upside, they have a roof top pool, health club, excercise equipment, steam, sauna. Very nice for some recuperation. Though cannot compare to poolside at Oase, during warm weather season.

Note: room rates quoted are during non.Messe dates. See link on this site to see when the big Messe fairs are on in Frankfurt/

Suggest Not to visit Frankfurt during Messe. Room rates triple / quadruple. Clubs are packed. Messe is a mess.

Note: There is a Tourist Information Center in Haubtbanhoff that provides, maps, info, brochures and calendars with events going on in Frankfurt, very helpful. Also can book rooms if you show up without a reservation. (not recommended).

Have fun.

S. Trato

UShobbyist
02-19-12, 00:39
Can anybody provide info about this hotel?

Ortos
02-19-12, 09:38
Can anybody provide info about this hotel?I think you can easily find better hotels in the same area for the same / better price. There are so many hotels within a couple hundred metres of the Hbf, so it's likely you can find a much better deal. Continental would not be on top of MY list. I stayed there only once years ago, found it a bit of a dump (plus spartan and noisy) and swore never again. Try the Excelsior, Monopol or even Savoy, at all of which you can sometimes find prices better than Continental. On the other side of Hbf, sometimes you can find decent prices at the InterCity Hotel. All of these are a step up from your requested hotel.

O

Member #4243
02-19-12, 14:16
Go with the ibis frankfurt central and save a whole heap of money on fancy sleeping quarters and instead spend that money on the hunnies. Ibis is an international chain semibasic but all you need is there. It is part of the accor group and you can get the best rate on their own website and get a very good rate if booked in advance. Just an idea.

UShobbyist
02-26-12, 00:26
Thank you for your advices. I read the hotel reviews on Expedia and I did see a lot of negative reviews about Continental Hotel. I probably will try Best Western Plaza Hotel (a few blocks south of Hauptbahnhof ). I only have one piece of luggage and I believe I can handle that.

Kimino
02-26-12, 03:47
Ciao!

In late April / beginning of may I will make a quick tour with a couple of friends. Plan is:

Day 1. Paradise at Stuttgart.

Day 2/3. Artemis and Berlin in general.

Day 4. Frankfurt, either Palace or Mainhattan.

Day 5 Back home.

Yes I know it's a bunch of Km but that's really not a problem (if the weather is going to be ok).

The question is, going south from Frankfurt, towards Suisse, is there any other big fkk (meaning same level as the other ones we plan to visit)?

I know colosseum in Augsburg but that's not in the same league Imo.

Globe in Suisse could be an option but I'd prefer avoiding as we will be probably have spent a lot of money by day 4.

Any advice from the gurus?

Thanks in advance.

Kimino

Dedalus
02-26-12, 15:05
Ciao!

In late April / beginning of may I will make a quick tour with a couple of friends. Plan is:

Day 1. Paradise at Stuttgart.

Day 2/3. Artemis and Berlin in general.

Day 4. Frankfurt, either Palace or Mainhattan.

Day 5 Back home.

Yes I know it's a bunch of Km but that's really not a problem (if the weather is going to be ok).

The question is, going south from Frankfurt, towards Suisse, is there any other big fkk (meaning same level as the other ones we plan to visit)?

I know colosseum in Augsburg but that's not in the same league Imo.

Globe in Suisse could be an option but I'd prefer avoiding as we will be probably have spent a lot of money by day 4.

Any advice from the gurus?

Thanks in advance.

KiminoHey Kimino,

You're going to bike these stretches? If so, then have fun. I've cycled between the NRW clubs in the past which was actually distance enough for me.

If you were to head south from Frankfurt toward Basel, then you have quite a few options. Admittedly none will be quite on the level of the better Hessen clubs, but you can still find a number of gems in the various line-ups. Also, FWIW apart from Paradise, the scene south of Hessen just cannot be compared to the better Frankfurt and NRW places. Sad, but true.

However if I were to try hit the best "between Frankfurt and Switzerland scene" (on bicycle, or via the A5) then I'd hit the triangle of clubs run by the same management in Offenburg (Lancelot) , Villingen-Schwenningen (FKK66) and Freiburg (FKK Palast). You could even add FKK History in Liestal (just outside of Basel) to that list. History is a very nice club with prices somewhat comparable to Germany, and also has the same investors as the other places I mentioned.

The best of the four would be History and Palast in terms of facilities, although some would fairly argue that FKK66's nice outdoor area puts it on par with the others. The girls tend to rotate among the clubs as needed, or when they have the desire to change up a bit.

Entrance fees are 60 EUR at Palast. 90 CHF@History and 50 EUR at 66 and Lancelot. Half hour session are 60 EUR at Palast. 66 and Lancelot, and 140 CHF at History.

In my experience Palast and History have the better line-ups, but there are certainly some terrific gems to be found at FKK66 and Lancelot. In fact, Maria at 66 was one of the best sessions I had in 2011.

At Palast and Lancelot it is de riguer for the gals to try and sell drinks to the dudes. The drinks are expensive and I just tell the gals that drinking is a sin and that the good Lord allows me a few transgressions per day, so I'll choose screwing starlets. It's never problem to decline an offer to buy a girl a drink.

Here are some clubs' websites. Beware of being too impressed with the photos. Air-brushing and Photoshop do wonders. Still Palast sports a pretty smokin' line-up these days. I haven't looked in on History in a number of months but it was really solid on my last visit.

FKK Lancelot (Offenburg)

http://www.fkk-lancelot.de/

FKK66 (Villingen)

http://www.fkk66.com/index.php?id=34

FKK Palast (Freiburg)

http://www.fkk-palast.com/index.php

FKK History (Liestal CH)

http://www.club-history.ch/de/club/index.php

Cheers,

Dedalus

Kimino
02-26-12, 20:40
Hey Kimino,

You're going to bike these stretches? If so, then have fun. I've cycled between the NRW clubs in the past which was actually distance enough for me.Ciao Dedalus!

Thanks so much for all the info.

Said bike meaning motorbike, sorry for the confusion.

Cheers,

Kimino

Skinner2111
02-27-12, 06:07
I have been a regular at this thread for the last few years. Am planning my first visit to Germany for precisely this purpose. Looking for a decent place to stay in less than 50 euro range as I want to conserve all my cash for the main event. Google maps shows a place called Pension wall as the nearest to Oase, I gather it would be walking distance from there. I have no knowledge of German Language, keeping that in mind suggest me a place that should serve my purpose.

Thanks in advance.

Dedalus
02-27-12, 22:55
I have been a regular at this thread for the last few years. Am planning my first visit to Germany for precisely this purpose. Looking for a decent place to stay in less than 50 euro range as I want to conserve all my cash for the main event. Google maps shows a place called Pension wall as the nearest to Oase, I gather it would be walking distance from there. I have no knowledge of German Language, keeping that in mind suggest me a place that should serve my purpose.

Thanks in advance.Hey S 2111,

How long are you planning on staying and when are you planning your trip?

Pension Wall is in the midst of nowhere. You can walk to Oase (10 minutes or so) but there's practically nothing else other than residences in that area.

I'd go for the B and B Nord (10 minute drive to Oase) or the Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. B and B is less than 50 EUR on off Messe dates and the Mercure can be had for less tha 50 if you book ahead and catch a deal. I personally prefer the B and B due to the free Internet and proximity to Micky D's and other eateries.

If you are staying a few days or over a weekend, I can't recommend enough the advantages of renting a car for the duration. Apart from the flexibility and the ease of visiting other clubs in the area, you will probably come off cheaper than what you will eventually invest in taxis and public transportation. A weekend rental at Hertz can be as low as 60 EUR (Friday to Monday) if you follow some booking advice already stated in these threads.

If your doing just one day, then I'd still opt for the B and B and an Avis Basic rental. If your planning a long stay, then I promise you that you'll want to hit more places than just Oase and having a little travel flexibility is going to be valuable.

Good luck and have fun,

Dedalus

Skinner2111
02-27-12, 23:13
Hey S 2111,

How long are you planning on staying and when are you planning your trip?

Pension Wall is in the midst of nowhere. You can walk to Oase (10 minutes or so) but there's practically nothing else other than residences in that area.

I'd go for the B and B Nord (10 minute drive to Oase) or the Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. B and B is less than 50 EUR on off Messe dates and the Mercure can be had for less tha 50 if you book ahead and catch a deal. I personally prefer the B and B due to the free Internet and proximity to Micky D's and other eateries.

If you are staying a few days or over a weekend, I can't recommend enough the advantages of renting a car for the duration. Apart from the flexibility and the ease of visiting other clubs in the area, you will probably come off cheaper than what you will eventually invest in taxis and public transportation. A weekend rental at Hertz can be as low as 60 EUR (Friday to Monday) if you follow some booking advice already stated in these threads.

If your doing just one day, then I'd still opt for the B and B and an Avis Basic rental. If your planning a long stay, then I promise you that you'll want to hit more places than just Oase and having a little travel flexibility is going to be valuable.

Good luck and have fun,

DedalusHey thanks a ton for the quick and informative response. Planning my trip mid April would definitely stay for a week. Had bernds on my list and wanted to try a swingers club also on one of the nights. Would like advice as to which one I should consider as I am a first timer. Which swinger / partytreff should I plan for which would be easily accessible from frankfurt? Was planning on taking a rental for at least part of the week if not the whole week. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Guys this forum is a god send for us mongers and Germany is certainly my most coveted destination. Cheers!

Dedalus
02-28-12, 11:46
Hey thanks a ton for the quick and informative response. Planning my trip mid April would definitely stay for a week. Had bernds on my list and wanted to try a swingers club also on one of the nights. Would like advice as to which one I should consider as I am a first timer. Which swinger / partytreff should I plan for which would be easily accessible from frankfurt? Was planning on taking a rental for at least part of the week if not the whole week. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Guys this forum is a god send for us mongers and Germany is certainly my most coveted destination. Cheers!Hey S2111,

Personally I'm not such a fan of the swinger clubs. Only hit them a few times in the past. Pretty hit or miss, although they sometimes pepper the attendance rolls with a working starlet or three.

I'm a fan of Bernd's, the Schieferhof service standards and the Wild West sexual attitudes on display there. I also think the line-up is not nearly as dominated by Grandma-types as some people say. However the eye-candy factor is somewhat lower across the board, and while you won't find the wild goings-on at Oase and World that you will see at Bernd's (unless you step into the Kino) I believe that with a little effort a Gent can score sessions on par or better than the "Hof" de riguer at most of the bigger German clubs. I'd recommend hitting Bernd's for the experience, but be prepared to move on if it doesn't suit your tastes. Might be worth it to hook up with a regular when hitting this place. Iseeu is the man to talk with when it comes to Bernd's.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Nille Copenhagen
02-28-12, 13:34
I'd recommend hitting Bernd's for the experience, but be prepared to move on if it doesn't suit your tastes. Might be worth it to hook up with a regular when hitting this place. Iseeu is the man to talk with when it comes to Bernd's.I've seen guys left Bernds in disappointment without any session at all and it was a Friday. So did my fellow friend.

Later in the evening we hit Samya and had a lot of fun.

LilJoey
02-29-12, 03:57
I'm very selective when it comes to latino women AND selecting dangerous hobby locations such as Rio and Costa rica, friends of mine have done many trips and have shared their photos and their close calls. Both have been enough to steer me to europe. I would like your opinion on how the women and the overall safety of your various hobby destinations. How do they stack up to europe?Breadman, I myself prefer the look of the caucasian tall blond or brunette types with great body shape that abounds in Eastern European countries. However, the more petite nicely curved latina types can be sizzling hot in a different way.

Sometimes when I am not seeing an abundance of pretty girls at the Delrey Hotel, I ask myself why I came there instead of going to Kiev or FKK's in Germany. But, nevertheless in the interests of variety I travel to latin american destinations where p4p costs are very low, when the price is much lower for airfare than to Europe. If the cost would be equal, I would probably head for the Frankfurt FKK's. However, for example, I just booked the weekend of March 23 to 26 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic for an airfare of $379. That's as low as I've seen it, so it was irresistable. Likewise, when the airfare to San Jose, Costa Rica goes below $500, it becomes a welcome opportunity for a great trip. I also like the look of the French Canadian type of girls one can have in Montreal, a very safe destination, where the hourly rate of good GFE service is around $180 / hr. I have never been to Rio in Brazil, but am very interested in going there, as well as to Medellin, Columbia, but am also concerned about security and safety.

In San Jose, Costa Rica, the standard recommendation is that at nighttime one must go from point A to point B only by taxi. However, security at the Delrey Hotel is very high, with ex-military looking guys with earpieces in their ears manning the doors. No one gets in without ID and search. Girls must give their ID to security before going upstairs with a guest and only get it back when they leave. There are room safes in all the rooms. So on a short weekend trip, one can stay for two nights at the Delrey Hotel with adequate security and have enough pussy there to keep a guy occupied all night. During the day, you can walk to the nearby brothels with no security concerns, or remain at the Delrey because there are girls coming there all day too. The brothels are a lower cost option though.

In Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic I usually stay at the Intercontinental Hotel and there are about four "casas" each with 20 to 30 girls or more in the immediate vicinity of one block away and a relatively safe walk at any time, as well as the Copa nightclub. Unfortunately, the hotel likes to charge a $30 guest fee to bring girls in. But I like the upscale class of the hotel, its pool area and other facilities. Usually, it lists for around $110 / nite for a standard room, so it's the lowest priced Intercontinental facility in any country I've seen. So despite the "chica' fee, I have stayed at the Intercontinental because of its location in proximity to some prime chica action, and its upscale class. However, if you read the thread on Santo Domingo, you will see other less imposing and cheaper hotels recommended which are more chica friendly, as well as warnings to stay away from hotels which are not chica friendly at all, and info on the other casas and strip clubs. Most casas have an incall option as well. I don't know the cleanliness or comfort conditions of those options as I have never done an incall at a casa, and prefer the comfort and cleanliness of my room at the Intercontinental.

The scene in Sosua, a town on the north coast of the Dominican Republic a bit to the east of Puerto Plata, is also pretty safe, and centers around Classico's, a disco club, which is walking distance around the corner from a recommended hotel called the New Garden Hotel. I walked hot young girls back from Classico's to my room at the New Garden and always felt safe. To the west of Puerto Plata was also Blackbeard's Adult Resort a small hotel with a pool and a bevy of chicas on staff of medium quality, but very low cost, and an ideal place for guys who want it very easy. You just come out of your room, choose a girl from those lounging at the pool or restaurant area, and go back to your room for some fun. Read about it on the thread. I did it as my first trip to DR, but didn't get impressed with the level of looks of the girls there. You can also take a ride in a taxi from Blackbeard's into Puerto Plata and go and see some really hot girls at some of the strip clubs in Puerto Plata who go for full service too at a higher price, that is still low compared to Europe's prices.

Hope this answers your query, and if you have an interest in latinas, have a try, as safety should not prevent you in the above locations that I have enjoyed.

I have safety concerns about Columbia and will do more research on it before going. Rio in Brazil I would not do as a solo adventure.

LJ

Breadman
02-29-12, 05:06
Breadman, I myself prefer the look of the caucasian tall blond or brunette types with great body shape that abounds in Eastern European countries. However, the more petite nicely curved latina types can be sizzling hot in a different way.

Sometimes when I am not seeing an abundance of pretty girls at the Delrey Hotel, I ask myself why I came there instead of going to Kiev or FKK's in Germany. But, nevertheless in the interests of variety I travel to latin american destinations where p4p costs are very low, when the price is much lower for airfare than to Europe. If the cost would be equal, I would probably head for the Frankfurt FKK's. However, for example, I just booked the weekend of March 23 to 26 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic for an airfare of $379. That's as low as I've seen it, so it was irresistable. Likewise, when the airfare to San Jose, Costa Rica goes below $500, it becomes a welcome opportunity for a great trip. I also like the look of the French Canadian type of girls one can have in Montreal, a very safe destination, where the hourly rate of good GFE service is around $180 / hr. I have never been to Rio in Brazil, but am very interested in going there, as well as to Medellin, Columbia, but am also concerned about security and safety.

LJI'm familiar with the CR reports, I've read them from time to time (when my buddies are planning trips) but I always keep coming back to Germany. Only a few cities in the states have airfare to CR for $500 or less (Boston, Chicago, Miami) , if your not in one of those cities, airfare is always in the $800 range. Airfare's from my hometown to the hobby destinations of europe, Costa rica and montreal have always been extremely close. Sad to say that all of these airfare's used to be half what I'm seeing the last two years.

Montreal is a blast, I've had some very attractive girls show up. Then again I've also waited hours in the room waiting for them and half of the time their photo's have been photoshopped extensively. I even got the chance to do an 18 year old rookie in Toronto as her first client ever, cutie with massive natural DD's. All those great times don't add up to the adventure's of one trip to Germany. In the end its really hard to pass up the fkk clubs and the ability to screw a hot chick and pay her afterwards for services provided, little to no negotiating needed.

Vitrea
02-29-12, 08:56
Breadman, I myself prefer the look of the caucasian tall blond or brunette types with great body shape that abounds in Eastern European countries. However, the more petite nicely curved latina types can be sizzling hot in a different way.

Sometimes when I am not seeing an abundance of pretty girls at the Delrey Hotel, I ask myself why I came there instead of going to Kiev or FKK's in Germany. But, nevertheless in the interests of variety I travel to latin american destinations where p4p costs are very low, when the price is much lower for airfare than to Europe. If the cost would be equal, I would probably head for the Frankfurt FKK's. However, for example, I just booked the weekend of March 23 to 26 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic for an airfare of $379. That's as low as I've seen it, so it was irresistable. Likewise, when the airfare to San Jose, Costa Rica goes below $500, it becomes a welcome opportunity for a great trip. I also like the look of the French Canadian type of girls one can have in Montreal, a very safe destination, where the hourly rate of good GFE service is around $180 / hr. I have never been to Rio in Brazil, but am very interested in going there, as well as to Medellin, Columbia, but am also concerned about security and safety.

In San Jose, Costa Rica, the standard recommendation is that at nighttime one must go from point A to point B only by taxi. However, security at the Delrey Hotel is very high, with ex-military looking guys with earpieces in their ears manning the doors. No one gets in without I'd and search. Girls must give their I'd to security before going upstairs with a guest and only get it back when they leave. There are room safes in all the rooms. So on a short weekend trip, one can stay for two nights at the Delrey Hotel with adequate security and have enough pussy there to keep a guy occupied all night. During the day, you can walk to the nearby brothels with no security concerns, or remain at the Delrey because there are girls coming there all day too. The brothels are a lower cost option though.

In Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic I usually stay at the Intercontinental Hotel and there are about four "casas" each with 20 to 30 girls or more in the immediate vicinity of one block away and a relatively safe walk at any time, as well as the Copa nightclub. Unfortunately, the hotel likes to charge a $30 guest fee to bring girls in. But I like the upscale class of the hotel, its pool area and other facilities. Usually, it lists for around $110 / nite for a standard room, so it's the lowest priced Intercontinental facility in any country I've seen. So despite the "chica' fee, I have stayed at the Intercontinental because of its location in proximity to some prime chica action, and its upscale class. However, if you read the thread on Santo Domingo, you will see other less imposing and cheaper hotels recommended which are more chica friendly, as well as warnings to stay away from hotels which are not chica friendly at all, and info on the other casas and strip clubs. Most casas have an incall option as well. I don't know the cleanliness or comfort conditions of those options as I have never done an incall at a casa, and prefer the comfort and cleanliness of my room at the Intercontinental.

The scene in Sosua, a town on the north coast of the Dominican Republic a bit to the east of Puerto Plata, is also pretty safe, and centers around Classico's, a disco club, which is walking distance around the corner from a recommended hotel called the New Garden Hotel. I walked hot young girls back from Classico's to my room at the New Garden and always felt safe. To the west of Puerto Plata was also Blackbeard's Adult Resort a small hotel with a pool and a bevy of chicas on staff of medium quality, but very low cost, and an ideal place for guys who want it very easy. You just come out of your room, choose a girl from those lounging at the pool or restaurant area, and go back to your room for some fun. Read about it on the thread. I did it as my first trip to DR, but didn't get impressed with the level of looks of the girls there. You can also take a ride in a taxi from Blackbeard's into Puerto Plata and go and see some really hot girls at some of the strip clubs in Puerto Plata who go for full service too at a higher price, that is still low compared to Europe's prices.

Hope this answers your query, and if you have an interest in latinas, have a try, as safety should not prevent you in the above locations that I have enjoyed.

I have safety concerns about Columbia and will do more research on it before going. Rio in Brazil I would not do as a solo adventure.

LJLiljoey, Medellin and Cartagena are very safe, if you use basic precautions, which is true for most places, I assume even for Kiev. MDE and CTG are definitely more safer than San Jose CR or cities in DR. The chicas are also hotter. Buenos Aires has gorgeous chicks as well but they are not true latinas. They have more european attitude and a bit less passionate than a latina. If safety is still a issue but you want to experience beautiful light skinned latinas go to Saint Martin (SXM). I have been to all these places more than once including several FKK trips. You have inspired me to consider Kiev.

Vitrea
02-29-12, 09:04
I have been a regular at this thread for the last few years. Am planning my first visit to Germany for precisely this purpose. Looking for a decent place to stay in less than 50 euro range as I want to conserve all my cash for the main event. Google maps shows a place called Pension wall as the nearest to Oase, I gather it would be walking distance from there. I have no knowledge of German Language, keeping that in mind suggest me a place that should serve my purpose.

Thanks in advance.You already got good advice from Dedalus. One more point: You are likely to visit more than one club if you are there more than one day. Rental car makes even more sense then and hotel location is less important. Also, if you choose to walk to Oase, you may be walking back at 2 AM on a cold winter night! That probably would not be not a great idea even in Germany.

LilJoey
02-29-12, 10:59
I'm familiar with the CR reports, I've read them from time to time (when my buddies are planning trips) but I always keep coming back to Germany. Only a few cities in the states have airfare to CR for $500 or less (Boston, Chicago, Miami) , if your not in one of those cities, airfare is always in the $800 range. Airfare's from my hometown to the hobby destinations of europe, Costa rica and montreal have always been extremely close. Sad to say that all of these airfare's used to be half what I'm seeing the last two years.

Montreal is a blast, I've had some very attractive girls show up. Then again I've also waited hours in the room waiting for them and half of the time their photo's have been photoshopped extensively. I even got the chance to do an 18 year old rookie in Toronto as her first client ever, cutie with massive natural DD's. All those great times don't add up to the adventure's of one trip to Germany. In the end its really hard to pass up the fkk clubs and the ability to screw a hot chick and pay her afterwards for services provided, little to no negotiating needed.Currently from NY there are fares on Spirit Air to San Jose, Costa Rica of $479 in the next few months. Sometimes TACA airline has low fares. If you get to miami on any airline there are often quite low fares from miami to SJO. You have to watch for the fares. I don't know which city you're referring to coming from. I've figured out a cheaper way to fly to Montreal since prices have gone up. I can get cheap flights into Burlington Vermont, and rent a car for a 1hr45 drive into Montreal, although I don't recommend that drive when there's risk of snow in the mountains on the way into Montreal.

The risk of bad results and waiting hours in Montreal is minimized by dealing with the reputable agencies which have a good reputation for being real. The main ones are:

http://www.montrealxxxtase.com/

http://www.devilishescorts.com/tabindex.aspx

http://www.montrealgirlsonfire.ca/

http://www.eleganzaescorts.com/

http://www.chloesplayground.net/

I agree with you that FKK's in Germany are an awesome trip and the Romanians and Bulgarians that predominate are pretty hot and swarthy and dark looking like those French canadians who have an Indian mix in their bloodline. Economics of a trip to Montreal versus Frankfurt show the costs to be slightly higher to go to Fkk's in Europe, but overall comparable. The airfare to europefrom NY is higher by $200 or more dollars. The cost of hotels is similar. You can get a very nice hotel from between $80 to $150, but in Montreal this is much more important since you are having the girls come to your hotel room and in Germany the hotel is just for you to sleep. Assuming one plans to at least do three sessions of 1 hour each at an FKK on a given day, the total costs are 100 Euro / hr plus 75Euro entrance, for a total of 375 Euro ($505) per day at the FKK. Three 1 hour sessions in Montreal at $180 / hr, would total $540. So the sessions costed only $35 more in Montreal for the same three hours of sex. It's not a large difference. Over three days of a weekend, assuming the same pace, would result in spending a little over $100 less on sessions in Germany but spending $200 more in airfare. So it cost only $100 more to monger in FKK in Frankfurt than to do the same amount of sessions in Montreal. Not a big economic difference. So choose which type of girls and environment you like, or mix it up and alternate the trips. I still go on the latin american trips because the much lower session fees and lower airfare make it a significantly less costly trip than europe.

Nille Copenhagen
02-29-12, 11:17
I agree with you that FKK's in Germany are an awesome tripI'm amazed that you guys bother to cross the Atlantic to Europe to get laid.

LilJoey
02-29-12, 11:21
Liljoey, Medellin and Cartagena are very safe, if you use basic precautions, which is true for most places, I assume even for Kiev. MDE and CTG are definitely more safer than San Jose CR or cities in DR. The chicas are also hotter. Buenos Aires has gorgeous chicks as well but they are not true latinas. They have more european attitude and a bit less passionate than a latina. If safety is still a issue but you want to experience beautiful light skinned latinas go to Saint Martin (SXM). I have been to all these places more than once including several FKK trips. You have inspired me to consider Kiev.I've stated explicitly what to do to minimize those risks in CR and DR so that they don't pertain to the situation you would be in. In San Jose if one stays inside the secure Delrey Hotel and simply does not expose himself to the risk that exists in walking around the darkened streets of San Jose at night, then what goes on outside the Delrey Hotel is irrelevant. Similarly, if one mongers at the locations I mentioned in the DR and does not go walking at night into unknown neighborhoods and streets, it will be ok.

So it could be helpful to describe with a little more detail how one can monger safely in the Medellin and Cartagena destinations, as the girls are spread out in different locations and one must go to where they are, what are the risks and how to avoid those risks.

It is a fact that some of the hottest girls at the Delrey were the Columbianas. Buenos Aires is very costly airfare all the time, but is definitely an interesting destination. I wanted to go to Saint Martin but never found airfare I liked. But it's on my list. But since it's mostly columbian women that go there, I assume one could go to Medellin to meet the same type of Columbiana too.

Myrmidon
02-29-12, 14:37
. So choose which type of girls and environment you like.Environment is a big factor for me: in Canada you can wait between sessions in your hotel room, go to strip clubs (more cost) , or go out to see the sights (Mtl is very beautiful, but the drivers?) While in FKK you have all those beautiful naked women parading around, approaching you etc, to amuse you 'tween sessions. And getting around on PT is cheap & easy.

Finally, the two dollars are usually closer than the Euro & the dollars.

Myr.

Breadman
02-29-12, 16:11
Currently from NY there are fares on Spirit Air to San Jose, Costa Rica of $479 in the next few months.

The risk of bad results and waiting hours in Montreal is minimized by dealing with the reputable agencies which have a good reputation for being real. The main ones are:

http://www.montrealxxxtase.com/

http://www.devilishescorts.com/tabindex.aspx

http://www.montrealgirlsonfire.ca/

http://www.eleganzaescorts.com/

http://www.chloesplayground.net/

I agree with you that FKK's in Germany are an awesome trip and the Romanians and Bulgarians that predominate are pretty hot and swarthy and dark looking like those French canadians who have an Indian mix in their bloodline. Economics of a trip to Montreal versus Frankfurt show the costs to be slightly higher to go to Fkk's in Europe, but overall comparable. The airfare to europefrom NY is higher by $200 or more dollars. The cost of hotels is similar. You can get a very nice hotel from between $80 to $150, but in Montreal this is much more important since you are having the girls come to your hotel room and in Germany the hotel is just for you to sleep. Assuming one plans to at least do three sessions of 1 hour each at an FKK on a given day, the total costs are 100 Euro / hr plus 75Euro entrance, for a total of 375 Euro ($505) per day at the FKK. Three 1 hour sessions in Montreal at $180 / hr, would total $540. So the sessions costed only $35 more in Montreal for the same three hours of sex. It's not a large difference. Over three days of a weekend, assuming the same pace, would result in spending a little over $100 less on sessions in Germany but spending $200 more in airfare. So it cost only $100 more to monger in FKK in Frankfurt than to do the same amount of sessions in Montreal. Not a big economic difference. So choose which type of girls and environment you like, or mix it up and alternate the trips. I still go on the latin american trips because the much lower session fees and lower airfare make it a significantly less costly trip than europe.Airfare: again you have to remember that most of us have to fly to new york, chicago, boston to get these 'deals' on Taca etc, adding $200 or more to that special. Another thing you have to consider is the 'loss' of airmiles on a USA carrier if we fly on Taca. Those 10k airmiles are 20% of a free ticket, that's $200 minimum that's lost on a free airmile flight. Now if your getting airmiles on Taca (or similar south american airlines) , that I don't know. Throw in the hastle and the cost of a visa to Brazil (if that's a destination).

I've got years of experience in Montreal, I know all of the agency's. I'm just saying for outcall your spending alot of time on the computer or the phone, mainly in your room, calling these agency's at their opening to see who's working. And they all don't open at the same time, so that's more time on the phone / internet. Maybe if you've got a smart phone with roaming in Canada might help some, but your still in your room waiting for the knock. You also mentioned $180, just want to point out that.

http://asservissante.com/escort-montreal.htm

Will soon be raising their rates to $200. Summer is coming, expect more to follow suit. Funny you list devililsh and girlsonfire, those two are the worst when it comes to on time delivery. And they have the most photoshopped girls in Montreal.

Hotels: Montreal is two or three times the cost of hotels in Germany. If you use priceline (checked biddingfortravel) , the lowest rate I saw was $70 for the Hyatt (that doesn't include the tax's and priceline fee). These easily run the bill up to $90. Your going to need a nice hotel in Montreal for the outcall girls, so $100 is closer to the truth. In germany your staying at a hotel close to the clubs. 30 35 euro's is the average and that includes the tax and breakfast most of the time. I've found several hotels in germany that are close to the clubs and run closer to $20 25 euro's a day with a three day or longer booking.

Amount of sex: Was I calling the wrong agency in Monteal? Your comparing 'hours of sex' and I recall the girls in Montreal showing up fulling dressed, taking 10 minutes to undress and needing 10 15 minutes of clean up time. So an 'hour of sex' in Montreal really comes out to 30 40 minutes. And your paying that girl $180 (soon to be $200) for 35 minutes of action. That same time can be had in Germany for 50 euro's minimum (assuming 10 minutes of couch time to make up the difference).

Cost comparison: If your going to add in the cost of the fkk club, you should also add in the cost of eating out in Montreal (three meals) , drink costs and cover if your going to visit the stripclubs (assume your not going to skip the stripclubs if your fucking girls in your room). I look at these costs as a wash, both are close enough in the end that I don't add club entrance fee's into the mix. Anywhere you go for vacation, food drinks and entertainment are going to cost roughly $80 a day. The clubs give you enough entertainment, food and drinks that you don't consider visiting german stripclubs.




However, there is a caveat to this. In the FKK you see the actual girls beforehand and choose from what you see. In the case of the escort websites in Kiev, which use fake pictures for the most part, you cannot see the girl until she shows up at your door. So what you must do is send her away if she doesn't look good enough. And then you must continue this process until a hot girl shows up at your door. It doesn't help to yell at the escort service phone girl to send you a skinny, pretty, sexy girl. They send you what they have and what they want to. However, since the population in Kiev has a statistically high percentage of hot girls in it, it is usually possible to get a hot girl at your door eventually, if you stay with it and keep trying. It just takes a little while and a few tries. If you read the reports on the Kiev thread, you will see that this has been the experience of most guys who have used the escort websites.


Now if you tried this approach in Montreal, booking an escort and then refusing her at the door, you'd have greater success at finding an attractive girl. Problem is your now sitting in your hotel room that much longer trying to find a substitute, all of which are fully booked (since the hotter girls work at night). And the agency's will soon pick up on your 'scam' of refusing ugly girls, if your in town for more than a few days they won't be sending you any more of their girls. And many of these agency's know someone working in the hotel who will with some incentive give them your name so that on future trips such 'cancellations' won't happen to them again (I know of agency's who've gotten clients full names before).

Breadman
02-29-12, 17:04
I've stated explicitly what to do to minimize those risks in CR and DR so that they don't pertain to the situation you would be in. In San Jose if one stays inside the secure Delrey Hotel and simply does not expose himself to the risk that exists in walking around the darkened streets of San Jose at night, then what goes on outside the Delrey Hotel is irrelevant. Similarly, if one mongers at the locations I mentioned in the DR and does not go walking at night into unknown neighborhoods and streets, it will be ok.Costa Rica: The idea of taking a vacation and staying indoors most of the time sounds a bit on the boring side. Yeah, you get to see some girls and can go from place to place via taxi but your still stuck indoors. My friends will do CR solo from time to time and attempt to find another wingman or two when they get down there, but most of the time is spent in the sportmans hotel or in the taxi going from place to place. I've seen their photo's of both the area they've visited and the girls they've seen and it doesn't compare to germany. They've told me Rio is ten times better so I'm even more hesitant on checking out CR.

Rio: gorgeous city and beach's, hot chicks all over the place is what my buddies told me. They rent a two bedroom apartment by the beach and spend an amazing amount of their time in that apartment. Rio is not a one man destination so you have to wait for your buddy to get up and decide on where to go. They love the terma's, tell me how hot the girls are. I'd love to go but the expense and hassle of getting the visa keep me putting it off.

If I'm not mistaken, didn't you take a long weekend to get this last trip in? Only used one personal day if I recall reading. That's one thing I love about flying into europe to hobby, I can leave work and jump on a flight and wake up in europe with an entire day ahead of me.

LilJoey
02-29-12, 22:40
Airfare: again you have to remember that most of us have to fly to new york, chicago, boston to get these 'deals' on Taca etc, adding $200 or more to that special. Another thing you have to consider is the 'loss' of airmiles on a USA carrier if we fly on Taca. Those 10k airmiles are 20% of a free ticket, that's $200 minimum that's lost on a free airmile flight. Now if your getting airmiles on Taca (or similar south american airlines) , that I don't know. Throw in the hastle and the cost of a visa to Brazil (if that's a destination).

I've got years of experience in Montreal, I know all of the agency's. I'm just saying for outcall your spending alot of time on the computer or the phone, mainly in your room, calling these agency's at their opening to see who's working. And they all don't open at the same time, so that's more time on the phone / internet. Maybe if you've got a smart phone with roaming in Canada might help some, but your still in your room waiting for the knock. You also mentioned $180, just want to point out that.

http://asservissante.com/escort-montreal.htm

Will soon be raising their rates to $200. Summer is coming, expect more to follow suit. Funny you list devililsh and girlsonfire, those two are the worst when it comes to on time delivery. And they have the most photoshopped girls in Montreal.

Hotels: Montreal is two or three times the cost of hotels in Germany. If you use priceline (checked biddingfortravel) , the lowest rate I saw was $70 for the Hyatt (that doesn't include the tax's and priceline fee). These easily run the bill up to $90. Your going to need a nice hotel in Montreal for the outcall girls, so $100 is closer to the truth. In germany your staying at a hotel close to the clubs. 30 35 euro's is the average and that includes the tax and breakfast most of the time. I've found several hotels in germany that are close to the clubs and run closer to $20 25 euro's a day with a three day or longer booking.

Amount of sex: Was I calling the wrong agency in Monteal? Your comparing 'hours of sex' and I recall the girls in Montreal showing up fulling dressed, taking 10 minutes to undress and needing 10 15 minutes of clean up time. So an 'hour of sex' in Montreal really comes out to 30 40 minutes. And your paying that girl $180 (soon to be $200) for 35 minutes of action. That same time can be had in Germany for 50 euro's minimum (assuming 10 minutes of couch time to make up the difference).

Cost comparison: If your going to add in the cost of the fkk club, you should also add in the cost of eating out in Montreal (three meals) , drink costs and cover if your going to visit the stripclubs (assume your not going to skip the stripclubs if your fucking girls in your room). I look at these costs as a wash, both are close enough in the end that I don't add club entrance fee's into the mix. Anywhere you go for vacation, food drinks and entertainment are going to cost roughly $80 a day. The clubs give you enough entertainment, food and drinks that you don't consider visiting german stripclubs.

Now if you tried this approach in Montreal, booking an escort and then refusing her at the door, you'd have greater success at finding an attractive girl. Problem is your now sitting in your hotel room that much longer trying to find a substitute, all of which are fully booked (since the hotter girls work at night). And the agency's will soon pick up on your 'scam' of refusing ugly girls, if your in town for more than a few days they won't be sending you any more of their girls. And many of these agency's know someone working in the hotel who will with some incentive give them your name so that on future trips such 'cancellations' won't happen to them again (I know of agency's who've gotten clients full names before).Interesting points, Breadman, some of which with I agree.

Good point about the airmiles when using Taca, for those that are trying to accumulate mileage on a US carrier. I actually use a Citi card to get AA mileage by spending every expense I can on that card. I'm actually going to Europe for my trip at the end of March on the AA mileage I got when I opened the card and also accumulated through routine spending. I would get those miles even if I bought a Taca ticket with that card. For me spending is the major way I accumulate airline mileage, and not so much by flying. I only flew TACA once when they had a sale on their airline miles reducing the cost of a ticket if you bought mileage for it to a low airfare, or when I could get their return non-stop flight Sunday evening, when most of the other airlines were leaving earlier in the day Sunday. Mostly I've flown Spirit or Copa. And their prices from Ft Lauderdale / Miami are low, so it's better to try to get to Ft Lauderdale than NY. But obviously I realize that guys living in areas which are not major airline hubs are at a disadvantage, just like a guy from NY is at a disadvantage from guys in Miami for latin american destinations. For Europe, some advantages go to those who live in Detroit or Philadelphia. We must make the best of our individual situations.

Regarding Montreal, I regret to hear the news that rates might collectively be going to $200 / hr for the reliable agencies. I actually have given a few of the newer agencies advertising specials of $160 / hr for some of their girls the last time I was in Montreal last year. And the sessions I had turned out pretty good. If what you say is truly going to happen, it will make the decision to go to Germany FKK's that much easier. However, I still hate the 8 hour flights to Europe, so Montreal is a place I will still go that is quick and easy to get to comparitively to Europe.

I have gotten great girls and good service from Devilish and Girls on Fire (I think it's the same owners) so I guess we didn't have equal experiences with them. I have used Devilish many times.

Being on a computer to get a girl and waiting for her to show up in Montreal, versus spending an entire day / night walking around an FKK and interviewing potential candidates to take to sessions and resting in between. Obviously the environment at an FKK is more fun for any guy. On the other hand in Montreal in between sessions you can come up for air and do something normal anywhere you want in a lovely city. In terms of time spent on the hobby, I don't think this factor makes much of a difference in making a decision on where to go. The methodology of the hobby is just different in each location.

The hotel cost for me is roughly equivalent. In Germany I don't stay in very cheap motels to be just next to an FKK. I don't see the point. I like to go to Palace which is in Frankfurt and Oase which is easily gotten to by train and taxi from Frankfurt. So when I'm in Frankfurt I like to stay at a four star hotel with some creature comforts. I like the Flemings hotel right next to FKK Palace and book it when the price is low, but also stay at the hotels right next to the Hbf like the Savoy, National or Leonardo which usually have rooms between $80 to $110, because they enable the quick jump onto the train to the airport in the morning that I leave. In Montreal I usually try for a hotel of better quality downtown in the $130 to $150 range and have often gotten good rates at the Fairmont Queen Elizabeth, or the Omni or one of the Delta hotels. But since there are guys who do sleep in hostels and bed and breakfasts while on a German FKK tour, I guess you comment is relevant to them as a consideration.

You are correct to say that in an outcall escort situation coming to your hotel less than 60 minutes will be spent on actual sex. I don't think it's as bad as having only 35 minutes though. There's not much one can do about the need for a little bit of chit chat in the begining to break the ice, and the need for the girl to shower before and after. But I try to get things going in bed within 10 minutes of her arrival. Before paying her fee, I make a point to look at the watch with her and say, for example,"We are starting this session at 5 PM, correct. That means you will stay until 6PM, right? Please confirm that with your agency because I don't want your agency calling you 20 minutes before 6 saying you must leave. An hour session must be an hour session." Hopefully she will stay with me if I'm in the middle of fucking her, until at least 5 minutes to 6pm. I usually have no problem with this. So you are right that it will not be 60 minutes of sex, but it should be more like 45 minutes of sex or maybe worst case 40 minutes. So it's not ideal. But it is not true that you can get that for 50 Euro in the FKK. It will also cost you 100 Euro the moment you go past 30 minutes. We all know that.

So, your observation, while it does not change the cost analysis at all, it is true that in the 60 minutes of an hour session you will be able to have more minutes of actual sexual activity at an FKK than in an outcall escort in your hotel situation.

I don't consider the food and drink costs when I compare Montreal to FKK, because I don't eat the food I've seen offered at FKK's. Although strictly speaking if one did save on food spending because they rely on eating all their meals at the FKK, then the same type of guy would more likely get a slice of pizza or eat a burger at McDonald or Burger King or some fast foods that are pretty cheap, so no need to spend $80 / day, when you can easily eat for much much less, say $10 to $15 / day. And any guy who says no to diners and fast food places, and wants to eat at a respectable restaurant, would do the same in Germany. So I didn't include food costs, which are a nominal consideration, in making a comparison.

I don't think we disagree on the basic point though, which is that the cost will not come out so much different whether one chooses to monger in Montreal or Frankfurt, so that the decision where to go should be based on other factors, not cost. Other factors like the length and difficulty of the travel itself, the mongering environment, the amount of sex included in an hour session and the GFE quality of sex. My own feeling is that the FKK's win based on the sheer sexual intensity of the environment and experience, but that I will go to Montreal when I just don't want to face a long flight and want something easier. Also for the same reason I have been going occasionally to Dominican Republic and Costa rica in between Kiev trips.

You are right to warn about the possibility of being blacklisted when you refuse girls from an agency time after time. You will be blacklisted in Kiev for doing this also. But it seems that since the misrepresentations about the girls' looks by the agencies in Kiev are so eggregious, that they sort of understand that you will probably send away a fat girl when their internet picture showed a skinny gorgeous model, as long as you pay her taxi fare when sending her away. They look at it as a sort of interview process. My concern is for when you send the girls away repeatedly and also refuse to pay taxi fare. I have expressed this concern on the Kiev thread. Maybe a better idea would be to call and speak to the agency and ask them to send their top three or four gilrs in one taxi and I will choose those that I like for today and tomorrow sessions.

Happy Hunting,

LJ

Breadman
03-01-12, 00:34
airmiles, credit cards: i do the same thing, use airmile credit cards and their bonus's to get free travel. but i also buy the airfare if its reasonable. its hard to rack up the needed 55k airmiles on purchase's alone. the best deal i ever received was thru american airlines, signed up for a credit card that gave me bonus miles and bought 1 ticket from them to bump up the miles. they kept sending me offers for debit cards with a mile bonus, open a stock account and get a mile bonus. i've flown with them two times for free and have enough for one more free ticket. so it sounds like taca's not giving you airmiles, that's 5 or 6k lost right there.

i can drive to montreal but its a pain to pay for parking. as to devilish and girlsonfire, i've had great times with them but you its the truth when i say their photo's are overly photoshopped. i've met the owner several times, once at his office and was given a ride to the hotel with the girl of my choice, that was interesting. same owner, multiple websites and several phone's all ringing at once. but once your in the room with the girl, as you said 'its the getting to know the girl' routine. getting her a drink, talking small talk and then getting it on, cleanup and shower. these all take a bite into the time your actually having carnal knowledge. there are occasions when its faster, lasts longer but not by much. 40 minutes max in montreal compared to 30 minutes in fkk land.

i do the same thing in germany that i do in montreal as a tourist. go out to dinner, grab a coffee, grab a beer. you used the term 'coming up for air', to me its do you feel safe walking around town. you mentioned cr as staying in the hotel, don't do this, don't do that, take taxi's or you'll be raped by a big latino (threw that one). to me those restrictions limit what i can do outside of the fucking.

as to the hotels, i like having a car if possible. the cost of gas in lots of back and forth travel warrants a closer and less 'star quality' hotel. as to the food at the clubs, i've had some pretty bad stuff. then again i've had some really great food.

i've heard of guys calling an agency and asking them to send all of their girls up to the room, they then keep the 2 or 3 that interest them and give the girls they don't pick 20 bucks or so to get rid of them.

LilJoey
03-01-12, 01:48
costa rica: the idea of taking a vacation and staying indoors most of the time sounds a bit on the boring side. yeah, you get to see some girls and can go from place to place via taxi but your still stuck indoors. my friends will do cr solo from time to time and attempt to find another wingman or two when they get down there, but most of the time is spent in the sportmans hotel or in the taxi going from place to place. i've seen their photo's of both the area they've visited and the girls they've seen and it doesn't compare to germany. they've told me rio is ten times better so i'm even more hesitant on checking out cr.

rio: gorgeous city and beach's, hot chicks all over the place is what my buddies told me. they rent a two bedroom apartment by the beach and spend an amazing amount of their time in that apartment. rio is not a one man destination so you have to wait for your buddy to get up and decide on where to go. they love the terma's, tell me how hot the girls are. i'd love to go but the expense and hassle of getting the visa keep me putting it off.

if i'm not mistaken, didn't you take a long weekend to get this last trip in? only used one personal day if i recall reading. that's one thing i love about flying into europe to hobby, i can leave work and jump on a flight and wake up in europe with an entire day ahead of me.costa rica has much more to offer than sitting in your room. i was only addressing the "mongering in safety" concerns you had raised. so the solution for that is to go to the delrey and bring girls up to your room from the lobby such that you have no risk exposure, or to stay at the sportsmen's lodge, as many guys do, and if the girls onsite there are not enough, then take taxis over to the delrey and back as needed. you can walk around freely during the daytime in that area too and go to the lower cost brothels. however, i was contemplating a short but intensive mongering experience from friday arrival until sunday departure, not a true "vacation". but the fact is that costa rica is a legitimate and very popular vacation destination for teens, students and adults. there are many very interesting and enjoyable things to do in costa rica that have nothing to do with mongering in the delrey hotel neighborhood in downtown san jose. so if you wanted to plan a "vacation" in costa rica, that could be done very easily and safely for you, as it is done for all the other general non-mongering tourists. then if you wanted to do some mongering, you could head down to the delrey / sportsmen's lodge area for as much, or as little, time as you wanted. also in the delrey lobby there are travel desks with all kinds of tour options that can be arranged right out of the delrey also. you don't need to sit in your room there, unless you have a hot girl there at the moment who is about to give you sexo.

i will tend to agree that i find the ee women more beautiful genetically, than the latina type of woman. however, to say that is to miss the point that many latina women are sizzling,"mucho caliente". so even though there's no fkk there with girls all gathered naked in a sex club for you, going latin is part of experiencing variety. unless you get to the termas in brazil, which i'm told are pretty close to the fkk type of environment.

rio is my dream trip. but it seems the commonly held opinion that one needs to be with wingmen there. my friends are duds in the travel department.

yes, i used the washington's birthday weekend opportunity to get away for the weekend and come back tuesday morning in the am hours. monday was an "off" day due to the national holiday, so i only lost friday from work, and a few hours tuesday morning, which i made up for by staying later at work.

the neat thing about flying from europe back to the us is that you gain a lot of hours of the day back, because of the time zone difference and the movement of the flight through the time zones. you can take off on an early flight tuesday morning and also arrive in the us in the early morning because of the time zone difference of 6 hours and the speed of the jet airliner eating up most of that time. for example, a nonstop flight departing from frankfurt at 8:30 am on singapore air will arrive in jfk at 11:00 am, only 2. 5 hours later on the clock, even though the flight itself actually took 8. 5 hours. similarly for london, a nonstop british airways flight taking off at 8:30 am from london will arrive at jfk at 11:00 am, only 2. 5 hours later on the clock, even though the flight itself was 7. 5 hours. london is situated an hour closer to the us than frankfurt, but it is also 1 time zone closer. so the london flight is really departing an hour later than the frankfurt flight, since 8:30 am in london is really 9:30 am in frankfurt. therefore, the two flights arrive at the same time in jfk.

in any event, without this feature of an early arrival in us, it would be necessary to head home the prior day, shortening the weekend by one night of mongering. on a regular non-holiday weekend, this would mean that there were only two nights (friday and saturday nights) to monger, instead of three. for me that third night (sunday night) of mongering opportunity is one of the factors that makes a trip to europe even for a regular weekend, something i could consider, although i have not done that more than once or twice in the past. so a long holiday weekend is a better fit for a european mongering trip because it has four nights of mongering opportunities.

as you may have read, in my last trip, i did kiev for two nights, fkk villa vertigo near dusseldorf, germany one night, and madrid one night. three cities in four nights is actually too much for my taste, although i enjoyed it immensely. but it worked out like that for me this past weekend because of the way i did the initial ticketing and then changed my mind about things afterward. normally i would try to plan a four night weekend with three nights kiev, and one last night at an fkk in either vienna or frankfurt.

future trips: i have an upcoming trip to kiev on march 30 and will be there for five (5) nights until april 4. i will depart kiev and have a stopover in bucharest on april 4. i have to decide if i can do anything significant in the afternoon i will have in bucharest. i will have about 6. 5 hours between flights and subtracting the time necessary to check in for the continuing flight and travel from / to downtown, i estimate i should have about three good hours to do something fun there from about 4:30 to 7:30 pm. but i was not impressed with the bucharest scene when i was there a couple of years ago. like kiev it has a lot of bait and switch fake pic ads, and hardcore ripp off girls. i don't know if i will try to partake or not. but i know from the fkk's that i'm nuts for romanian women. so maybe i will try again there, since i have some time to kill.

i will be in europe again from april 18 to 22 and this will be primarily an fkk trip. i'm going to go to artemis in berlin on wednesday night april 18. i will also be in frankfurt for the weekend (friday. sunday april 20. 22) and will go to palace and oase and maybe another location.

summertime the airfare prices to europe are generally too high. so that's when it's ideal to go to montreal perhaps during the jazz festival which is a nice time to go. or go to latin destinations. if prices come back down to the low prices they were last year for columbia, i think i will want to try that.

it's all good, bro.

LilJoey
03-01-12, 02:23
airmiles, credit cards: i do the same thing, use airmile credit cards and their bonus's to get free travel. but i also buy the airfare if its reasonable. its hard to rack up the needed 55k airmiles on purchase's alone. the best deal i ever received was thru american airlines, signed up for a credit card that gave me bonus miles and bought 1 ticket from them to bump up the miles. they kept sending me offers for debit cards with a mile bonus, open a stock account and get a mile bonus. i've flown with them two times for free and have enough for one more free ticket. so it sounds like taca's not giving you airmiles, that's 5 or 6k lost right there.

i can drive to montreal but its a pain to pay for parking. as to devilish and girlsonfire, i've had great times with them but you its the truth when i say their photo's are overly photoshopped. i've met the owner several times, once at his office and was given a ride to the hotel with the girl of my choice, that was interesting. same owner, multiple websites and several phone's all ringing at once. but once your in the room with the girl, as you said 'its the getting to know the girl' routine. getting her a drink, talking small talk and then getting it on, cleanup and shower. these all take a bite into the time your actually having carnal knowledge. there are occasions when its faster, lasts longer but not by much. 40 minutes max in montreal compared to 30 minutes in fkk land.

i do the same thing in germany that i do in montreal as a tourist. go out to dinner, grab a coffee, grab a beer. you used the term 'coming up for air', to me its do you feel safe walking around town. you mentioned cr as staying in the hotel, don't do this, don't do that, take taxi's or you'll be raped by a big latino (threw that one). to me those restrictions limit what i can do outside of the fucking.

as to the hotels, i like having a car if possible. the cost of gas in lots of back and forth travel warrants a closer and less 'star quality' hotel. as to the food at the clubs, i've had some pretty bad stuff. then again i've had some really great food.

i've heard of guys calling an agency and asking them to send all of their girls up to the room, they then keep the 2 or 3 that interest them and give the girls they don't pick 20 bucks or so to get rid of them.your point about the actual "carnal knowledge" or sex part of the outcall escort on a one hour call to your hotel being 40 minutes (to 45 minutes) max is a correct one. and therefore the amount of sex per hour in an fkk one hour session is greater, maybe 50 minutes if you talk to the girl a little also, but maybe 55 minutes if you're a do'er and not a talker__lol. this means that it is a positive factor arguing in favor of choosing to go fkk, rather than outcall escort. but it is not the only factor or even the deciding factor in making the choice.

the same issue exists when comparing what happens in kiev versus the fkk's, which i've already commented on in other posts. my favorite place for mongering is rio strip club in kiev. yet when i bring home one of their beauties for a three hour session, it is not three hours of humping, as might be the case in an fkk. and the 3 hours with the rio strip club honey runs consecutively, whereas in the fkk you can spread it out and rest in between, increasing your own performance ability during any session to maximize its potential. in the case of kiev's rio strippers taken for a three hour date, the most that many guys could manage is to have sex twice, but sometimes it is only one good and longer session, and the rest of the time is spent on other parts of dating. so it is a fact that there is nothing to compare to the fkk's sheer amount of sexual experience possibilities, since one can have sex with many more girls, and many more sexual laisons, due to the fact that there is also a half hour session option. and yet still many guys, who all know this very well, including myself, choose to go to kiev, over the fkk's. there are reasons for that. but if one's sole interest is to maximize the amount of actual sex per dollar spent, then unquestionably the fkk's are the best place to go.

regarding san jose, costa rica, i think you have the wrong impression of it as a tourist destination, for which it is generally regarded as a safe destination. the area of the city of san jose where the delrey hotel and the sportsman's lodge are located downtown are the places where you don't walk around at night because of the possibility of being mugged for your money, as these are poor areas where many people are destitute. my advice is that for vacations, it would be a mistake to write off costa rica because of safety, and you can explore this with travel agents. however, if you want to monger in the delrey hotel area, then you can't be oblivious to the kind of neighborhood it is, and if you feel you need to go out of your hotel take a taxi. if this ruins it for you, then i suppose you'll need to find latina pussy elsewhere. but honestly, when i was at the delrey to monger, i was not bored, i was mongering, and i was not interested in going anywhere but to bed with the girls i was considering. there's a time and a place for everything. when i went out to try one of the strip clubs at night i took a taxi anyways there and back.

probably having a car is more needed when visiting the nrw clubs up near cologne and dusseldorf. because the fkk's near frankfurt, like palace and oase, are gotten to easily enough by train and taxi.

Vitrea
03-01-12, 03:02
I've stated explicitly what to do to minimize those risks in CR and DR so that they don't pertain to the situation you would be in. In San Jose if one stays inside the secure Delrey Hotel and simply does not expose himself to the risk that exists in walking around the darkened streets of San Jose at night, then what goes on outside the Delrey Hotel is irrelevant. Similarly, if one mongers at the locations I mentioned in the DR and does not go walking at night into unknown neighborhoods and streets, it will be ok.

So it could be helpful to describe with a little more detail how one can monger safely in the Medellin and Cartagena destinations, as the girls are spread out in different locations and one must go to where they are, what are the risks and how to avoid those risks.

It is a fact that some of the hottest girls at the Delrey were the Columbianas. Buenos Aires is very costly airfare all the time, but is definitely an interesting destination. I wanted to go to Saint Martin but never found airfare I liked. But it's on my list. But since it's mostly columbian women that go there, I assume one could go to Medellin to meet the same type of Columbiana too.I know. You state everything explicitly. I have no idea how you can write these long posts, that too quite frequently. You must be a super fast typist. Thanks and good for you.

MDE and CTG. MDE is very very safe if you stick to the top neighborhoods. It has year round beautiful weather and I was comfortable walking everywhere in El Poblado and parque lleres (sp?) area. One day I walked 4 miles to go to the bank, change money and comeback. At night, use taxi and always take a taxi at the hotel, club or casa but don't hail one in the street. CTG is the same. If you stick to old town and Boca grande, it is very safe. Rest, you go during the day and same taxi rules.

SXM vs Colombia: Unless you go to Santa Marta area, the beaches in Colombia suck in general. SXM has nice beaches and in general the set up is very convenient. SXM clubs are set up is like a Caribbean FKK without an entrance fee. 50 USD per 30 min of sex (CBJ though). Only thing is that the inside is not as nice a German FKK, there are no showers and girls are clothed. Good thing is the girls are available for take out, which is the only way I do it. SXM also has strip clubs with caucasian girls (expensive) and best food in the Carribbean. You can snorkel, dive, sail or vegitate on the beach during the day or do some duty free shopping while you enjoy a new Colombiana or a Russian or a Ukrainian every night.

Vitrea
03-01-12, 03:09
FUTURE TRIPS: I have an upcoming trip to Kiev on March 30 and will be there for five (5) nights until April 4. I will depart Kiev and have a stopover in Bucharest on April 4. I have to decide if I can do anything significant in the afternoon I will have in Bucharest. I will have about 6. 5 hours between flights and subtracting the time necessary to check in for the continuing flight and travel from / to downtown, I estimate I should have about three good hours to do something fun there from about 4:30 to 7:30 PM. But I was not impressed with the Bucharest scene when I was there a couple of years ago. Like Kiev it has a lot of bait and switch fake pic ads, and hardcore ripp off girls. I don't know if I will try to partake or not. But I know from the FKK's that I'm nuts for Romanian women. So maybe I will try again there, since I have some time to kill.Your assessment of Bucharest is same as mine. I spent sometime there and came to the conclusion most of the willing talent from Romania is exported to the rest of Europe. The street girls are everywhere and most are ugly compared to their sisters in Germany, Austria or Spain. If you only have few hours, I suggest a massage parlor. They do have some good looking (some really hot) girls but unless they know you, you are only going to get a erotic nude massage and hand job or tit job at best. May not be a bad thing if it is just a pit stop. See the Bucharest forum for names of massage places or PM me.

Hessen Bub
03-01-12, 10:49
Hello? This is the German FKK Club Board. Can we get back to topic?

HB

Big30
03-01-12, 14:40
Hello? This is the German FKK Club Board. Can we get back to topic?

HBOne or two reports that have nothing to do with German FKK-clubs is ok for me. But this is really to much.

B30

Breadman
03-01-12, 20:34
What we need is a 'lounge' area where anything can be posted. Thought that was the general info section but I must have been mistaken.

Nille Copenhagen
03-01-12, 20:46
What we need is a 'lounge' area where anything can be posted. Thought that was the general info section but I must have been mistaken.It's a German FKK general info section.

I also think we are moving to far away now. Montreal, CR, Colombia.

Let us get back to Germany.

Is there anyone who don't like the FKK clubs please raise your hands.

Capt Dan
03-01-12, 23:18
Shockingly enough I would agree with the notion of having a Lounge Area for General Conversation among regular Germany - FKK Clubs Members.
Particularly when the conversation provides good information and discussion as is the case with Liljoey's recent posts.

Come to think of it, perhaps we need to also have a Fight Club Section! :D

Seriously though a Lounge area is a good idea and I would be interested to see if anyone else thinks likewise!

CD :)

Capt Dan
03-01-12, 23:54
Looks like Big30 has darn well gone straight ahead and created a Lounge/Chat Area!
Not a bad idea and I hope it gets used to the maximum :D

LilJoey
03-02-12, 01:08
Gentlemen:

I find it slightly amusing that people have become so exercised by these posts. Having been ushered from the specific VV thread to the General Info thread by CD's gentle prod, the venerable HB returns the serve and bounces this discussion to out of bounds?

May I suggest the following thought. These posts have the purpose of comparing various sex destinations in terms of cost, safety and girl quality etc. Which to my mind contribute valuable information to the readership. It is certainly "relevant" to each destination in the comparison. Many of us are not exclusive to only one mongering destination type like NRW FKK's, but have broader travelling / mongering interests that cross international borders and continents. Therefore, I submit that posts comparing one sex destination to others that are also easily accessible, are of interest to more than just a few readers, and have the benefit of opening the mind.

Am I really the only one who mongers in both FKK-land as well as in other places in Eastern Europe? Surely the comparisons to Kiev's offerings were interesting to many readers of the FKK threads. So now I have enountered a gentleman whose travels have taken him to destinations in Latin America, as have my own. Certainly you realize that any monger on this forum who hails from the US or Canada has as much equal access to the Caribbean and Latin America destinations, as he has to Europe. So comparing the termas of Brazil to the action in the FKK's is a meaningful exchange of information that can be useful to mongers who can go just as easily to both destinations in pursuit of the hobby.

Yet I will defer to the higher minds, as I certainly don't want to give anyone heartburn when reading my posts__LOL.

LJ

Capt Dan
03-02-12, 01:21
I would support your right to post LJ. Although not from North America, I have enjoyed reading your posts and reports. I think the new Lounge Area was created by Big30 with a certain sense of humour and with perhaps a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek! But perhaps you should take it as a compliment that a special section has been created to accommodate your (and others) particular posting requirements. When all is said and done, I welcome your contributions wherever you decide to post.

CD

Jymondor
03-02-12, 01:43
Gents, how Easter will affect lineup in FKKs both in NRW and Hessen?

What should I expect on Good Friday, Easter Sunday, or following Monday. Are they open? How many girls "answened"?

Should I avoid traveling these days?

LilJoey
03-02-12, 04:20
I would support your right to post LJ. Although not from North America, I have enjoyed reading your posts and reports. I think the new Lounge Area was created by Big30 With a certain sense of humour and with perhaps a certain amount of tongue-in-cheek! But perhaps you should take it as a compliment that a special section has been created to accommodate your (and others) particular posting requirements. When all is said and done, I welcome your contributions wherever you decide to post.

CD Don't worry CD. I do have a very thick skin and ample servings of patience. So my spirit of helpfulness and willingness to continue posting has not been dampened in the least. But inasmuch as the new creation is a "German FKK Club: Lounge and Chat Area", I'm sure I can anticipate yet another member with a profound sense of order and pünktlichkeit to remind anyone crossing their personal line that it is a lounge for chat about German FKK Clubs only. I'm afraid the only solution is the creation of yet another thread labelled the "The German FKK Club: Lounge and Chat Area for Matters Not Directly Concerning German FKK Clubs"

Yet, in all this splendor of new creations, I realize that the proverbial Baby would be thrown out with the Bath Water. Since my original intention will be frustrated, which was to capture the attention of those reading the FKK threads and open their minds to the existence of other possibilities that may yet entertain them, by providing comparisons of the FKK's to those options. Those type of posts definitely help mongers trying to decide on how to design their future trips which is the purpose of this entire forum.

No one actually complained when I posted the FKK vs Kiev comparisons because every monger who goes to the FKK's has the ability to also go to Kiev and probably thought of it as a future possibility for themselves too.

I think maybe the reason the discussion between Breadman and myself crossed the line of tolerance for those who decided to interject was because Latin American destinations are too far away for some European mongers to contemplate travel to, and so since the discussion didn't pertain to their own personal interests, and they did not fathom the usefullness of the information to others involved in the FKK threads, they interjected.

Whatever, the reason, I am happy to excercise a bit of self censorship on my part when posting in German related threads, all things considered.

I did consider continuing with Breadman via PM, but I felt that then the information would not be made accessible to others who might actually be interested in it. In the future, knowing there are self appointed censors lurking beneath the surface in these waters, I may choose to post in the newly created chat area and merely leave a link in the FKK thread for those interested to follow if they like.

As I wrote, my purpose in posting information I have learned for the members of this forum, is to inform and to entertain, not to give anyone heartburn.

LJ

Big30
03-02-12, 14:22
Gents, how Easter will affect lineup in FKKs both in NRW and Hessen?

What should I expect on Good Friday, Easter Sunday, or following Monday. Are they open? How many girls "answened"?

Should I avoid traveling these days?- There will be some effect, but not comparable with the the Christmas / newyear effect. Remember also that Ortodox Easter is one week later (most girls from RO are orthodox).

- All clubs are open except for Bernds. Karfreitag is an official Holiday like Monday so most clubs will open a little later like on a Sunday.

- I remember that clubs like VV and PHG had a special easter (also with whitsun) offer: you pay 100E and you could enter then for 3 or 4 days.

Avoid travelling is up to you, the Easter weekend is OK but maybe a little less preferred. Expect that Sunday and Monday will be relatively slow in most clubs. But who cares if you find 1-2 good girls, the sun is shining then you can have a perfect day!

B30

Vito Corleone
03-03-12, 01:08
Gents, how Easter will affect lineup in FKKs both in NRW and Hessen?

What should I expect on Good Friday, Easter Sunday, or following Monday. Are they open? How many girls "answened"?

Should I avoid traveling these days?I was in Germany last Easter & the lineups were pretty thin. Everything other than Mcdonald's, gas stations & Turkish spots were closed so arrive prepared. I had some regulars who were planning to stay so it was still a good trip for me. Lineups were thin, but there is always a couple of hotties to choose.

I would avoid Easter weekend, but if its the only weekend you can travel then go for it. No traffic on the autobahn which is a plus. I was in the NRW the entire 10 days so not quite sure how it effects the Hessen clubs.

Two Angels
03-03-12, 16:32
As Big30 said it's a big difference this year because the Orthodox Easter falls a week later. Sure it will be felt a part of supply but not that it is completely deserted. I myself will go down to my favorite club in Berlin for Easter.


I was in Germany last Easter & the lineups were pretty thin. Everything other than Mcdonald's, gas stations & Turkish spots were closed so arrive prepared. I had some regulars who were planning to stay so it was still a good trip for me. Lineups were thin, but there is always a couple of hotties to choose.

I would avoid Easter weekend, but if its the only weekend you can travel then go for it. No traffic on the autobahn which is a plus. I was in the NRW the entire 10 days so not quite sure how it effects the Hessen clubs.

CoupleAwesome
03-03-12, 19:43
Friends. I posted this question a while back, but never got a answer from the senior members. I am planning to visit Oase for the first time. The main thing that has caught my attention for Oase from the rest is the fact that Oase has outside garden. My question is can we have fun outside the building in the garden? Will the girls be willing and is it legal. Coming from Middle East these are very important questions for me before I venture to Oase. Any help you can provide to these questions will helpme. Also my trip is around late April. Any idea about the weather conditions that time?

Also, I see reports that speaks about specific girls, how will I know who is who given the fact that there will be plenty of them and with no name tag I am wondering how to identify the gals that the members are talking about. Confusion!

Thanks a bunch in advance!

Free Dude
03-04-12, 13:51
Friends. I posted this question a while back, but never got a answer from the senior members. I am planning to visit Oase for the first time. The main thing that has caught my attention for Oase from the rest is the fact that Oase has outside garden. My question is can we have fun outside the building in the garden? Will the girls be willing and is it legal. Coming from Middle East these are very important questions for me before I venture to Oase. Any help you can provide to these questions will helpme. Also my trip is around late April. Any idea about the weather conditions that time?

Also, I see reports that speaks about specific girls, how will I know who is who given the fact that there will be plenty of them and with no name tag I am wondering how to identify the gals that the members are talking about. Confusion!

Thanks a bunch in advance!Many clubs have gardens (World's is much larger than Oase's for instance). In Oase there is even a bed in the garden for the specific purpose of being fucked on, as well as a bunch of tents. There are plenty other places in the garden that can be used for completing a session. Some girls might not be up for it, but most will probably have little problem with sessioning outside. Especially if there are waiting times for rooms. Late April can be hit or miss. 25 degrees or 15. Identifying girls is done by talking to them.

Jymondor
03-04-12, 17:38
I would avoid Easter weekend, but if its the only weekend you can travel then go for it.

Vito, Big30, Two Angels, thanks for the answers. I would try to avoid Good Friday, but It can be just one day break in mu venue. Sometimes I take one day break after tree-four straight days in FKK's.

Jymondor
03-05-12, 02:35
Gents, usually I arrive to Germany from Canada between 6:00 and 7:00 AM. No sleep during the flight. I check-in in the hotel, sleep few hours and than going to the club. Usually I book some privately owned hotels and agree early check-in in advance. However I prefer EtapHotels by many reasons. Check-in time@EtapHotels is 11:00 AM. My question is: could I check-in at about 8:00 AM or so?

I went through EtapHotels website and haven't found any form or e-mail for common questions like this one.

Thanks

Dedalus
03-05-12, 08:05
Gents, usually I arrive to Germany from Canada between 6:00 and 7:00 AM. No sleep during the flight. I check-in in the hotel, sleep few hours and than going to the club. Usually I book some privately owned hotels and agree early check-in in advance. However I prefer EtapHotels by many reasons. Check-in time@EtapHotels Is 11:00 AM. My question is: could I check-in at about 8:00 AM or so?

I went through EtapHotels website and haven't found any form or e-mail for common questions like this one.

ThanksDepends on the Etap, but you can't count on it. The guy who use to run the one in Linden was always dead set against letting anyone check in before 14:00, but the new management has let me check in early. Best to get there while the front desk is open. Keep in mind that if the hotel is full the night before (pretty common at the Linden location) , then you are probably out of luck.

I've ALWAYS been able to do early check-ins at B and B hotels. Again, a full house the evening before plays a role here, but I've checked in at the Frankfurt Nord location at 6 AM.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Skinner2111
03-06-12, 08:41
You already got good advice from Dedalus. One more point: You are likely to visit more than one club if you are there more than one day. Rental car makes even more sense then and hotel location is less important. Also, if you choose to walk to Oase, you may be walking back at 2 AM on a cold winter night! That probably would not be not a great idea even in Germany.Thanks for the info.

Vito Corleone
03-06-12, 12:05
Gents, usually I arrive to Germany from Canada between 6:00 and 7:00 AM. No sleep during the flight. I check-in in the hotel, sleep few hours and than going to the club. Usually I book some privately owned hotels and agree early check-in in advance. However I prefer EtapHotels by many reasons. Check-in time@EtapHotels Is 11:00 AM. My question is: could I check-in at about 8:00 AM or so?

I went through EtapHotels website and haven't found any form or e-mail for common questions like this one.

ThanksLike Deda said, it really depends on the person working the front desk & if the place is packed the night before. I checked into the Etap Linden in Jan when breakfast started. 6 or 7am. I asked the front desk if I can check in early & he asked if I have a res. I gave him my printout & I was in bed 10 minutes later. There were some empty parking spaces in the lot so I assume there were a few rooms available.

The new front desk person seemed like a nice guy. The old schmuck was not there so maybe I got lucky.

Member #4243
03-08-12, 00:11
I have seen the abbreviation CDL followed by what looks like a number of girls present in a club. On the romerforum. Is this a european abbreviation for service provider or something similar? Just curious if someone knows.

Horbate
03-08-12, 06:04
I have seen the abbreviation CDL followed by what looks like a number of girls present in a club. On the romerforum. Is this a european abbreviation for service provider or something similar? Just curious if someone knows.Mohab-

You are esentially on track. I think it is Club Dienst Leisterin or Club Service Providers translated to english.

Horbate

Banana Boi
03-09-12, 02:09
What is the best GPS for Europe?

What stores can I get the best prices in FRA (ie. Like Costco, Best Buy, Wal-mart, etc.)?

Nille Copenhagen
03-09-12, 10:40
What is the best GPS for Europe?

What stores can I get the best prices in FRA (ie. Like Costco, Best Buy, Wal-mart, etc.)?I'll recommend Tomtom with HD traffic, you get live traffic update very useful on German roads,

Look for online shops for the best deal.

Kimino
03-09-12, 16:12
What is the best GPS for Europe?

What stores can I get the best prices in FRA (ie. Like Costco, Best Buy, Wal-mart, etc.)?If you happen to have an iPhone, get an app called Navigon, It's been recently acquired by Garmin but it still works great. :)
I used it in Italy, France and little bit in Germany.

Otherwise I think a Tom Tom is a cheap solution and works ok.

HTH.

Kimino

Big30
03-10-12, 01:51
What stores can I get the best prices in FRA (ie. Like Costco, Best Buy, Wal-mart, etc.)?Visit a Saturn, Mediamarkt, Promarkt or Real.

Banana Boi
03-10-12, 07:01
Visit a Saturn, Mediamarkt, Promarkt or Real.Thanks Big30. There's a Saturn near Oase and a Media Markt near World.

CoupleAwesome
03-11-12, 03:35
Friends. My trip got postponed to May 1st, I guess its a holiday (May day) in Europe, is that true? In that case, do you know how the lineup would be in Frankfurt FKK's? I am particularly looking to head to Oase. Is it worth heading at that time?

Another question is with regard to DFK, DATY. I see that many of the folks indulge in these activities. My ignorance and hence pardon me. If the gal has AIDS, will this not be transferred in the deep kissing and eating pussy? Is it safe?

Also, any inputs regarding FRANKFURT weather in First week of May?

Many thanks to all the boarders out there!

Take care.

Skinner2111
03-11-12, 12:24
Hey thanks a ton for the quick and informative response. Planning my trip mid April would definitely stay for a week. Had bernds on my list and wanted to try a swingers club also on one of the nights. Would like advice as to which one I should consider as I am a first timer. Which swinger / partytreff should I plan for which would be easily accessible from frankfurt? Was planning on taking a rental for at least part of the week if not the whole week. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Guys this forum is a god send for us mongers and Germany is certainly my most coveted destination. Cheers!What are the documents required for hiring a car? Do we need to have an international drivers license and a credit card? Are they mandatory? Or is it possible to just pay cash when hiring a car from Frankfurt airport? This would be my first time to Germany so any info would be very helpful.

Thanks

Shag Master
03-11-12, 12:40
I've got a stopover in Frankfurt on a Wednesday. Should be in downtown Frankfurt around 2. 30pm and need to be back at the airport around 8. 30pm. My first instinct is to spend the time at Oase, however I have yet to make my first visit to Mainhattan. Does anyone have any input as to if Mainhattan is likely to be worth visiting at this time on a Wednesday?

Cheers,

Shag

Kimino
03-11-12, 14:41
Friends. My trip got postponed to May 1st, I guess its a holiday (May day) in Europe, is that true? In that case, do you know how the lineup would be in Frankfurt FKK's? I am particularly looking to head to Oase. Is it worth heading at that time?I'll be in Franfurt too on that date. I'll be on a fkk tour with a couple of friends, coming from Berlin.

We will be either at Palace (90%) or Mainhattan (10%).

Ciao.

Kimino

Akibono
03-11-12, 17:55
What are the documents required for hiring a car? Do we need to have an international drivers license and a credit card? Are they mandatory? Or is it possible to just pay cash when hiring a car from Frankfurt airport? This would be my first time to Germany so any info would be very helpful.

ThanksUnless you are anEU resident, you only need a passport, your home country driver's license and a credit or debit card. Cash will not do. They need a deep pocket in case you wreck the car.

Lorenzo
03-11-12, 18:22
Another question is with regard to DFK, DATY. I see that many of the folks indulge in these activities. My ignorance and hence pardon me. If the gal has AIDS, will this not be transferred in the deep kissing and eating pussy? Is it safe?DFK should be no problem; the HIV virus can't be transmitted through saliva. With DATY, there might be a remote possibility of transmission. The virus can be carried in vaginal secretions, but in order for it to be transmitted to you, you would have to a) get her secretions into her mouth, and be) have a means of transmitting them to your bloodstream, e. G, an open sore in your mouth or lips. If you limit DATY to her external genitalia you should have nothing to worry about. Besides, I'm sure these girls are screened for HIV by the management (which doesn't mean they couldn't contract it on the job.).

Breadman
03-11-12, 19:10
Another question is with regard to DFK, DATY. I see that many of the folks indulge in these activities. My ignorance and hence pardon me. If the gal has AIDS, will this not be transferred in the deep kissing and eating pussy? Is it safe?The virgin's are usually std and disease free, just ask the girls if they are virgins. If you can't get up the nerve, just ask the front desk for their hymen checking flip flops (standard in all clubs except for Palace, no virgins there). They have small mirrors attached to the top, also work great for guys looking for large pussy lips.

Hessen Bub
03-11-12, 20:33
There's no mandatory medical check-up for prostitutes in Germany. There was the so called "Bockschein", doesn't exist anymore. If you are scared. Stay away from paysex.

HB

Ortos
03-11-12, 21:50
I've got a stopover in Frankfurt on a Wednesday. Should be in downtown Frankfurt around 2. 30pm and need to be back at the airport around 8. 30pm. My first instinct is to spend the time at Oase, however I have yet to make my first visit to Mainhattan. Does anyone have any input as to if Mainhattan is likely to be worth visiting at this time on a Wednesday?

Cheers,

ShagHi Shag!

To venture a quick opinion here: Two points you should consider:

A) You are a long-time Oase-visitor, since I remember meeting you long ago at Oase. To demostrate how long ago that was: There were lots of girls from Russian, Ukraine and Belrus, back then. Ah, the good ole' days.

B) Mainhattan, while attractive for it's location and novelty factor, is famous for it's hit-or-miss line-up, perhaps more pronounced on weekdays.

C) Add to point B: Oase at the moment has lots of superb talent, granted heavily Romanin weighted right now, but the club has arguably the best day in-day-out line-up amongst the Hessen clubs right now (when did it not?).

In a nut-shell: It's a no brainer. Oase is your best hunting ground, you know the place from old, so why risk a possible off-day at Mainhattan?

Look forward to hearing of your exploits, wherever you do decide to go.

Enjoy, mate,

O

Shag Master
03-12-12, 18:33
Hi Ortos.

You have confirmed what I was thinking, thank you.

Yes the good old days, many years ago now since Oase was populated with lots of Russian girls.

I look forward to my brief stopover.

Cheers,

Shag

(QUOTE=Ortos; 1256840]Hi Shag!

To venture a quick opinion here: Two points you should consider:

A) You are a long-time Oase-visitor, since I remember meeting you long ago at Oase. To demostrate how long ago that was: There were lots of girls from Russian, Ukraine and Belrus, back then. Ah, the good ole' days.

B) Mainhattan, while attractive for it's location and novelty factor, is famous for it's hit-or-miss line-up, perhaps more pronounced on weekdays.

C) Add to point B: Oase at the moment has lots of superb talent, granted heavily Romanin weighted right now, but the club has arguably the best day in-day-out line-up amongst the Hessen clubs right now (when did it not?).

In a nut-shell: It's a no brainer. Oase is your best hunting ground, you know the place from old, so why risk a possible off-day at Mainhattan?

Look forward to hearing of your exploits, wherever you do decide to go.

Enjoy, mate,

O[/QUOTE]

Kimino
03-12-12, 19:59
Club Paradise (stuttgart) will open in Villach (austria).

http://www.the-paradise-villach.de/

Being there also Andiamo.

http://www.andiamo.at/

Which I visited a couple of times, Villach is becoming a very interesting place to visit.

In particular for italian guys of the north / north-east.

BTW, I do think they are targeting exactly them as the girls I talked to said thay hardly ever saw people from Austria.

I'll visit Paradise (Stuttgart) in late April after a couple of years.

Kimino

UShobbyist
03-12-12, 20:48
Which bank in Frankfurt downtown area gives the best exchange rate, if I exchange American Express traveller's checks to Euro?

Mike De H
03-13-12, 20:18
Which bank in Frankfurt downtown area gives the best exchange rate, if I exchange American Express traveller's checks to Euro?Volksbank, any will do. Its asafe bet. I did a larger post on this earllier.

Mer Zues
03-14-12, 03:01
Hi Shag!

To demostrate how long ago that was: There were lots of girls from Russian, Ukraine and Belrus, back then. Ah, the good ole' days.Can someone explain to me why the decrease in numbers for the girls from those countries? Is it a shift to other destinations for work or some other reasons?

Toscana
03-14-12, 10:22
Can someone explain to me why the decrease in numbers for the girls from those countries (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus)? Is it a shift to other destinations for work or some other reasons?There may of course be more than one explanation, but it has generally become much more difficult for people in these countries to get Schengen visas, especially those enabling them to work. The days of the rolling tourist visa (three months in, leave, come back, three months in) are long gone. There was a tightening of consulate procedures about two years ago after revelations of improprieties at some European consulates. If I remember the German consulate in Kiev came in for special criticism.

Many of the girls at the FKKs who state they are Russian, Ukrainian etc. Are long-term residents in Germany having migrated with their families many years ago. Although they still speak fluent Russian they are often for all intents and purposes deutsche Mädels. It's just more exotic to say you're Siberian. There do indeed seem to be few new imports.

In my experience there are many more of these girls to be found outside the FKKs, especially in apartments in those German cities known to have absorbed a higher share of immigrants in the past. And if you like the type, don't ignore the EU-Latvians, who can effectively work without restriction in Germany, and many of whom come from Russian families in that country.

Capt Dan
03-14-12, 12:05
Well said Toscana. One wonders how all the FKK, sauna and sex clubs in Germany would manage for hookers were it not for the ready supply of girls from Romania! More often than not this nationality now represents a very high proportion of the working girls in most clubs. Were it not for Romanian hookers the cost of mongering would probably be a lot more than it currently is.

Optimist
03-14-12, 12:08
UShobbyist.

I realise that I'm not answering your exact question, but the best way to get euros is to get a currency card which you can then load with euros before you leave home. The one I use provides 15% better exchange rate than going to an airport or city exchange office in Germany. These cards appear to be availble in the US but I'm not sure of the exchange rates

Breadman
03-14-12, 15:12
Which bank in Frankfurt downtown area gives the best exchange rate, if I exchange American Express traveller's checks to Euro?I used to use regular debit cards, I'd get hit with these large foreign transaction fee's. A friend told me he used world bank since it was partnered with deutsche bank, as long as he used that banks machine's there were no atm charges (not sure about the currency exchange though). I now use a schwab debit card, they refund any atm machines and charge foreign transaction fee's. I'd check the next day and the rate I was given was the closing rate of the day.

Ortos
03-14-12, 18:48
Many of the girls at the FKKs who state they are Russian, Ukrainian etc. Are long-term residents in Germany having migrated with their families many years ago. Although they still speak fluent Russian they are often for all intents and purposes deutsche Mädels. It's just more exotic to say you're Siberian. There do indeed seem to be few new imports.Thanks to Toscana, for the perfect and extremely-accurate summary as to why our beloved FKKs are striped dry of our even more beloved Russian / Ukrainian (etc.) girls. And it gets wider than just Russian and Ukraine: Remember the heyday of (e.g.) Atlantis and all those Russian-speaking dfk/cim champions from the russian-speaking -stan countries? Rember girls from, say, Khazakastan??? Ah, bring those days back, please!!

As to the above quoted parapgraph: The often-cited Steffi at Oase (cf todays postings) is a perfect example of what Toscana descibes. There are many examples of the same immigrant-family-sex-worker profile from other countries: Romania (check the ranks of World, LR, GT, etc) , Bulgaria, Hungary, on and on. Most of them, EE countries where it is not so taboo for a girl with a good body and decent technique to fuck and suck her way out of financial insecurity.

O

Breadman
03-14-12, 19:00
Most of them, EE countries where it is not so taboo for a girl with a good body and decent technique to fuck and suck her way out of financial insecurity.

OYour thoughts on Greece and greece women coming to the clubs? I met a girl at World a year ago who worked for a few weeks to make what she couldn't back home. Is it possible for Greece women to get permits to work in the clubs? There's got to be more working girls from Greece now than a few years ago, before all of their troubles. Its been mentioned here in my home city in the USA that prostitution has gone up considerably, a friend even approached a girl who asked for $$ and said 'why should she give it up for free'. More and more are heading that route to make ends meet.

CoupleAwesome
03-14-12, 22:45
Friends. I am looking for a good FKK Club nearer to Netherlands as my trip to Frankfurt is in doubt. I was planning my first trip to Oase but not sure if that will work due to change in Business plans. Are their any GOOD FKK Clubs at par with Oase (or even better) in Cologne or Dusseldorf?

Thank you. Cheers!

Jymondor
03-15-12, 00:06
Most of them, EE countries where it is not so taboo for a girl with a good body and decent technique to fuck and suck her way out of financial insecurity.I would disagree. Sex for money is still taboo in EE countries with majority of Slavic population. Don't know for sure about Hungary and Romania. Economical situation forces girls to make money that way.

Ortos
03-15-12, 05:39
Your thoughts on Greece and greece women coming to the clubs?I am not an expert specifically in Greece, but I do speak the language fluently and I can tell you this: Nowadays, most of the girls in FKK clubs who claim "to be from Greece" are, in fact, not really Greek. It's similar to the Romanians who claim "to be from Italy" or Spain. However, just a few years back, there were, in fact, genuine Greek girls who worked at Oase and Atlantis and other clubs too.

Some years ago, many so-called "ethinically Greek immigrants" from Black Sea (mainly Georgia) were given Greek Passports, and they and their children grew up mainly in northern Greece, Thraki/Thrace, and went to Greek schools. Many speak Russian as well and are called Ponti as an ethnic group. Linda "of Greece" at Oase is an example that comes to mind.

Plus there are many girls that just make-up a story that they or a parent are from Greece --perhaps it's a reflex lie to represent themselves as EU girls-- but they speak hardly more than three words of the language. I met a girl in Oase 6 weeks ago, who claimed to be from Greece. When I said something to her in Greek she gave me a blank look and changed the subject. I decided to session with her anyway because she had a killer-ass!

In fact, many proper Greek girls these days are swept up into the anti-German sentiment prevailing over Greek society right now, and would sooner burn the German flag than work in one of the German FKK clubs. Like in many societies, it is easier and natural to blame outsiders for their troubles at home, rather than take a deep intra-spective analytical view of themselves.

O

Toscana
03-15-12, 11:07
Is it possible for Greece women to get permits to work in the clubs?EU country, much to Angela Merkel's chagrin. They do not need a work permit.

LoverboyJerico
03-15-12, 12:18
I know this might be a silly question but I am completely new to this concept. Which is the best FKK Club in germany. Also is there any similar club in london? I plan to travel around only for my mongering so any city in germany is ok. Just which is the best place.

Nille Copenhagen
03-15-12, 19:05
I know this might be a silly question but I am completely new to this concept. Which is the best FKK Club in germany. Also is there any similar club in london? I plan to travel around only for my mongering so any city in germany is ok. Just which is the best place.RTFT about FKK, I'll give you a few hints, Bernds, Artemis, Oase, Palace, Goldentime.

Opligger
03-16-12, 08:56
Friends. I am looking for a good FKK Club nearer to Netherlands as my trip to Frankfurt is in doubt. I was planning my first trip to Oase but not sure if that will work due to change in Business plans. Are their any GOOD FKK Clubs at par with Oase (or even better) in Cologne or Dusseldorf?

Thank you. Cheers!In my opinion there are several good clubs in NRW. Anyhow there is a good one in Rodenkirchen SAMYA [entrance 50 € 1/2 h 50 € and 1h 75 €] and there is also a good one in the Netherlands in Roermond named yingyang same prices. Have fun.

Big30
03-17-12, 02:29
I know this might be a silly question but I am completely new to this concept. Which is the best FKK Club in germany. Also is there any similar club in london? I plan to travel around only for my mongering so any city in germany is ok. Just which is the best place.No offense, but yes indeed this is a silly question. As long as you not define some specific and determing criteria for what is "good" and what is "bad", it even does not make any sense to ask this question!

"So I still have not found what you are looking for!"

Dedalus
03-17-12, 16:54
I know this might be a silly question but I am completely new to this concept. Which is the best FKK Club in germany. Also is there any similar club in london? I plan to travel around only for my mongering so any city in germany is ok. Just which is the best place.Not quite as silly as some are making it out to be considering that you are new to the game. Read some of that Super Cum nonsense. THAT mess is indeed silly, annoying and plain grab-ass idiocy.

Short answer to your question is that everyone has their preferences and you won't find a consensus as to the best club in D'land. Even individuals like myself tend to have shifting opinions depending on the scene at the moment. The scene is dynamic and a club can be heaven one month and a dump the next.

I tend to suggest that new comers visit Oase the first time out. Chances are you will hit a solid line-up regardless of the day of the week. There was a time that I would have highly recommended Golden Time, but I think that place is a shadow of its former self. Acapulco ranks high with me at the moment, as does World and Artemis.

If you are set on a daytime visit, then I'd hit any of these places on a weekend. Daytime line-ups during the week can be thin. Some people loath crowds, but clubs are usually crowded for a reason: Good line-ups. I usually recommend hitting a club on a Friday or Saturday in the late afternoon (say ca. 3PM) so that you can scan the daytime girls as well as check out the evening shift.

I'll probably catch some heat for this, but as a new comer, I'd avoid Palace. The use of the term "Shark" to describe a churn um and burn um working gal who is not above snookering an unsuspecting Gent, started when a number of guys described their experiences at this place. Even many die-hard Palace fans will admit that a high number of WG's at Palace will slight a Gent on the service while screwing him on the price.

If you don't mind ladies with a bit more "experience" and are less committed to snogging you model types, then Bernd's might be your thing. Facilities are nothing special but one can't argue with the service standards.

One of the nicest clubs I've seen of late is Sharks in Darmstadt. Huge! Great facilities. However the line-up is a bit of a lottery.

Again, I'd direct you to Oase if you are in Frankfurt, Artemis in Berlin and Aca if you are in NRW. All three are quite good at the moment.

Good luck and have fun!

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub
03-17-12, 17:51
Actually line-up at Sharks this week was great, lots of stunners, and Catalina from World is renting out her body in Darmstadt and intending to stay.

HB

Free Dude
03-17-12, 17:53
What I think Big30 meant, is. Just as you say. It al depends on what your preferences are. For instance, if you like to have some decent food your favorites of Oase and Acapulco (during the week at least) are immediate no-go's and your better of in Golden Time, Palace and Parksauna Residenz. If you want large amounts of young stunners Acapulco, Golden Time and Oase (maybe Happy Garden) are sure choices. If you want a high probability of good service, go to Freude, Babylon or Bernds (and definately not to Aca). If you don't like the girls to be all over you, stay away from Oase, World and Palace; if you get bored by girls hanging around in sofas, you'd better skip Acapulco and Freude. Are you a day-person: Golden Time and Freude are great (Oase as well) ; but Living Room, Planet Happy Garden and Samya will only get going in the evening. Come to think of it, these are the places that provide 'party atmospheres'; so if that's your thing, go there. Want free beer? Go to Samya, LR, PHG, World. Etc.

These are just examples (and by no means complete) and everyone has to decide for themselves which combination is most suitable. In NRW I usually combine Freude with LR; one day of good sex and one day of partying with cute Romanian girls (and reasonable sex). My favorite club is Oase as well, but I won't go back to Acapulco anytime soon, since my experience is that service levels are below par and most girls feel that 20 min is enough time for a session (YMMV of course). Most important thing is what kind of experience you want, because these three clubs I like to go to (Freude, Livingroom and Oase) all provide quite different experiences.

Banana Boi
03-17-12, 18:28
Actually line-up at Sharks this week was great, lots of stunners, and Catalina from World is renting out her body in Darmstadt and intending to stay.

HBThanks HB. I was wondering where Catalina went. I so regret not getting an Adrianna and Catalina duo at World.

I've never been to Sharks. Talent on the same level as Oase and World?

Dedalus
03-17-12, 18:57
what i think big30 meant, is. just as you say. it al depends on what your preferences are. for instance, if you like to have some decent food your favorites of oase and acapulco (during the week at least) are immediate no-go's and your better of in golden time, palace and parksauna residenz. if you want large amounts of young stunners acapulco, golden time and oase (maybe happy garden) are sure choices. if you want a high probability of good service, go to freude, babylon or bernds (and definately not to aca). if you don't like the girls to be all over you, stay away from oase, world and palace; if you get bored by girls hanging around in sofas, you'd better skip acapulco and freude. are you a day-person: golden time and freude are great (oase as well) ; but living room, planet happy garden and samya will only get going in the evening. come to think of it, these are the places that provide 'party atmospheres'; so if that's your thing, go there. want free beer? go to samya, lr, phg, world. etc.

these are just examples (and by no means complete) and everyone has to decide for themselves which combination is most suitable. in nrw i usually combine freude with lr; one day of good sex and one day of partying with cute romanian girls (and reasonable sex). my favorite club is oase as well, but i won't go back to acapulco anytime soon, since my experience is that service levels are below par and most girls feel that 20 min is enough time for a session (ymmv of course). most important thing is what kind of experience you want, because these three clubs i like to go to (freude, livingroom and oase) all provide quite different experiences.all excellent points, and my clarifications are in no way meant to dis b30, as his board bona fides are well and duly noted! however our new friend's question seems to be more worthy of a better clarification than the brush offs that he seemed to be receiving. again, it baffles me that sc 500 can make inane inquiries about showers, pimples, bathrobes and condom sizes, and actually get responses when it is clear that "he" is either a 12 year old who stumbled on the sight or a teenage girl trying to have a bit of laughs.

15 years ago i might have asked the same question about "the best club in germany" (there were a lot fewer back then) and in fact did so when chatting with various gents in various clubs. how's this guy supposed to know any different? and, while rtff might seem to be the logical response from our perspective, there's a good deal of uninformed bunk in these pages from gents who maybe get over here (d'land) three times a year, yet write as if they wrote the fuckin' book on fkk trends and what's hot and what's not.

your point is an important one though. hb (who has forgotten more about german clubs than most of us will ever know) points out that sharks is pretty solid at the moment. this contrasts a bit with my last visit, but his info is more up to speed and i don't have to think twice about his recommendations. (and catalina is definately worth a trip to darmstadt!) the scene is dynamic on so many levels and it never hurts to politely and helpfully point this out. especially to the new guys.

cheers,

dedalus

Maverick1969
03-17-12, 19:12
Actually line-up at Sharks this week was great, lots of stunners, and Catalina from World is renting out her body in Darmstadt and intending to stay.

HBCan confirm that. Was at Sharks on the night of 10th and the line up was great.

Reports to follow soon.

Cheerio

CoupleAwesome
03-19-12, 23:03
Hello, Mates. Any idea about the line ups in Frankfurt area FKK's on APRIL 30TH AND MAY 1ST. I have heard that May 1st is a national holiday in Germany. Is that true? Will it impact the gals line up? Just don't won't to waste a trip that is being planned for the last 3 years on a day that is going to be so dry.

I am particulary planning on going to Oase.

Let me know, appreciate your inputs.

Cheers!

Capt Dan
03-20-12, 15:16
Actually line-up at Sharks this week was great, lots of stunners, and Catalina from World is renting out her body in Darmstadt and intending to stay.
Can confirm that. Was at Sharks on the night of 10th and the line up was great.I can also confirm that there is currently a top notch lineup in FKK Sharks. Many good quality girls :D
I was there on the evening of the 15th March.
See my micro report in the FKK Sharks Thread for more details: 1259655
Get there while the going is good!

CD

Jofra
03-21-12, 01:14
I have one of my visits at FKK Palace on a Friday night about one year ago. After I just finished a session with a girl she told me that she think it's boring to be every night at the club and gave me an offer to go with her the night after (Saturday) to central Frankfurt and the nightlife with discos, bars and that things.

Because I was leaving Frankfurt the next morning I have no posibility to accept her offer, and I don't ask more about it. I really don't know exactly what was included in her offer and the price.

Have anyone else got this sort of question from a girl when you visiting a FKK-club, and if so: What experiences do you have? What is a resonable price for a FKK-girl one evening "in the city" with this kind of concept?

J

Qtpii
03-21-12, 10:43
Thanks all for the info on the board. I've spent hours going through this and there is SO much info that I'm actually confused now. Looking for help from somebody.

I need suggestions for a first time visit. FKK / Partytreff Any region would work for me. I'll probably be driving down from Paris. Here are my limitations.

1. I'm not too experienced sexually, can't hold it for too long (read 2-3 mins)! So someplace where multiple shots would be allowed (so I thought FKK might kill me $$$)

2. My budget is rather limited. But I don't desire too many sessions as well. (not sure about the FKK / Partytreff tradeoff)

3. Being the first visit, I'd prefer a more private setting rather than a public / orgy type thingie. (most partytreff seem to be open)

4. Can only speak english!

The questions may seem trivial. But I am seriously confused!

Any help is appreciated.

FKKclubs
03-21-12, 23:14
Thanks all for the info on the board. I've spent hours going through this and there is SO much info that I'm actually confused now. Looking for help from somebody.

I need suggestions for a first time visit. FKK / Partytreff Any region would work for me. I'll probably be driving down from Paris. Here are my limitations.

1. I'm not too experienced sexually, can't hold it for too long (read 2-3 mins)! So someplace where multiple shots would be allowed (so I thought FKK might kill me $$$)

2. My budget is rather limited. But I don't desire too many sessions as well. (not sure about the FKK / Partytreff tradeoff)

3. Being the first visit, I'd prefer a more private setting rather than a public / orgy type thingie. (most partytreff seem to be open)

4. Can only speak english!

The questions may seem trivial. But I am seriously confused!

Any help is appreciated.There are so many places to go, I would recommend Golden Time in Bruggen, nice location, good line-up and plenty of choice. With a little luck you can find 100 women waiting for you. The minimum time for a session is 1/2 hour and would cost you 50 euro, standard excellent service, if you combine your 2-3 minutes with a nice relaxing massage, you are ready for a new session, take is easy, relax and take you time.

What you want to spend in one night is totally up to you, entrance fee is 50-60 euro's and combine this with 3 sessions, will make you spent 200-210 euro's, if you can afford this, it is worth the money.

English is not a problem and you can get away with that no problem.

Have fun.

CaptRenno
03-22-12, 01:11
I need suggestions for a first time visit. FKK / Partytreff Any region would work for me. I'll probably be driving down from Paris. Here are my limitations.For a first time visit, I would stick to the clubs that are well known and have some good reviews. Here is my Google map of such clubs:

http://g.co/maps/f9tt3.

If you are driving from Paris, the closest clubs are Club 214 in Saarbrucken and Prestige FKK in Neunkirchen. They are near the French border and fairly close to each other. Though neither club is among the most famous ones, they both have pretty good reputations. Depending on how much time you have to spend in Germany (is it a weekend or a week?) , a trip to this area may be all you can handle. But if you have more time, then I would recommend that you continue on to the Frankfurt area and hit the two famous clubs just to the north of the city, Oase and World. I can personally recommend these clubs, as can so many other guys.


1. I'm not too experienced sexually, can't hold it for too long (read 2-3 mins)! So someplace where multiple shots would be allowed (so I thought FKK might kill me $$$)

2. My budget is rather limited. But I don't desire too many sessions as well. (not sure about the FKK / Partytreff tradeoff) What's your budget? A typical FKK charges 60 Euros entrance and 50 Euros per 30 minutes. So an FKK visit with two encounters would cost you 160 Euros. That's a great price for the quality of the girls and the service in a good FKK. By comparison, consider what you would get in Paris for 160 Euros. Frankly, it's not even something you want to think about. If you can't afford 160 Euros for an evening's entertainment, then you should consider the Partyreff option.


3. Being the first visit, I'd prefer a more private setting rather than a public / orgy type thingie. (most partytreff seem to be open)If you have doubts about it, then this is probably not the option for your first visit to Germany.


4. Can only speak english! .Don't worry about language. Some girls speak fluent English and some hardly speak a word. Sex is a universal language and the only one you really need. As far as choosing a girl, don't just go with the girl to whom you are most attracted or the one who approaches you first. Talk and flirt with a number of girls and see who you click with. If you get a good vibe from a girl, then you are probably going to enjoy her more than the girl who looks like a centerfold.

Hbengkok
03-22-12, 05:51
Thanks all for the info on the board. I've spent hours going through this and there is SO much info that I'm actually confused now. Looking for help from somebody.

I need suggestions for a first time visit. FKK / Partytreff Any region would work for me. I'll probably be driving down from Paris. Here are my limitations.

1. I'm not too experienced sexually, can't hold it for too long (read 2-3 mins)! So someplace where multiple shots would be allowed (so I thought FKK might kill me $$$)

2. My budget is rather limited. But I don't desire too many sessions as well. (not sure about the FKK / Partytreff tradeoff)

3. Being the first visit, I'd prefer a more private setting rather than a public / orgy type thingie. (most partytreff seem to be open)

4. Can only speak english!

The questions may seem trivial. But I am seriously confused!

Any help is appreciated.I suggest you contact Super Cum500 and travel together with him.

Big30
03-22-12, 13:22
Hello, Mates. Any idea about the line ups in Frankfurt area FKK's on APRIL 30TH AND MAY 1ST. I have heard that May 1st is a national holiday in Germany. Is that true? Will it impact the gals line up? Just don't won't to waste a trip that is being planned for the last 3 years on a day that is going to be so dry.Yes May 1 is an official Holiday in Germany (most shops will be closed and some clubs open what later) and no it will not have a big impact on the line-up. Maybe even more gorls than less girls. The night of 30 April / May 1 some clubs in NRW had (have?) a Party "Tanz um den Maibaum / Walpurgisnacht". But that was mainly clubs in NRW not in Hessen when I remember well. People in Germany like to party that Night (in some Big cities there were also some problems with demonstrations and riots, not really a party!)

April 30 is on a Monday (normally relatively slow) but since in Holland this day is a public holiday (Queens day) in the well known clubs close to the border with Holland you can expect more guests and girls.

B30

Horbate
03-22-12, 15:22
Thanks all for the info on the board. I've spent hours going through this and there is SO much info that I'm actually confused now. Looking for help from somebody.

I need suggestions for a first time visit. FKK / Partytreff Any region would work for me. I'll probably be driving down from Paris. Here are my limitations.

1. I'm not too experienced sexually, can't hold it for too long (read 2-3 mins)! So someplace where multiple shots would be allowed (so I thought FKK might kill me $$$)

2. My budget is rather limited. But I don't desire too many sessions as well. (not sure about the FKK / Partytreff tradeoff)

3. Being the first visit, I'd prefer a more private setting rather than a public / orgy type thingie. (most partytreff seem to be open)

4. Can only speak english!

The questions may seem trivial. But I am seriously confused!

Any help is appreciated.Qtpii-

I don't think your questions seem trivial at all for a beginner. It is obvious that you have made an attempt to read the forum before making your first post, and if you have never done any P4P (pay four play) , the multitude of options CAN be confusing. You have to start somewhere, if you decide to choose P4P, and although it is a constant accumulation of learning experiences, don't let yourself be intimidated by anyone that has forgotten what it is like to start with the first few building blocks. You certainly don't seem at all like any clueless child that has never been allowed to see the daylight of the real world from the cave that that he was born in.

I am only an occasional traveler to Europe, but, I've had quite a few broad range P4P experiences, in a lot of countries, over the years. I seem to be focusing on Germany quite a bit the last several years, but, part of the reason is only because of the limitations of the frequent flier miles that I have been using.

Of course you have only told us a limited amount of information about your expectations. Based on what I 'think' I'm hearing, and if I were you, I think I would be taking a very close look at the Partytreff thread. Although I have only been to a couple, myself, and I tend to mainly go to FKK's, while in Germany, I have gone to PT's as an alternative to FKK's as a budget 'cheap date' day. The couple I went to were NOT sex in public, and it was behind closed doors, just like FKK's can be, if you choose. You just need to find the ones that fit you taste. If I was in Germany, on a very tight budget, still 'got off' in a matter of minutes, and was 'reloaded' and ready to go again very quickly, I would be looking for the places (Partytreffs) that have several ladies to have sex with, all for one preplanned set price. Although an all inclusive club may not be entirely 9's and 10's, the ladies may be entirely acceptable and doable, but that will be according to you individual standards, of course. As a very general rule, if a lady is hot, and knows it, she is probably more likely to work in a club (such as an FKK) where she can maximize her individual earnings, instead of sharing in the day's earnings with all the other 'average' ladies at an all inclusive club. Of course, this may not, of course, apply to all individual clubs.

I would suggest that you continue to read, and be prepare well BEFORE you leave, and only speaking English won't be a big deal at all, wherever you travel. English is quite common around many parts of the world, and finding someone to help you along your trip, if you get in a pinch, is not that hard, especially in metropolitan areas. Do as I do, if I need to ask a question. Ask a group of younger people, and someone in the group will probably be delighted to be able to practice their English with you. I would equally choose a person that is dressed well and has a more professional appearance, and they are likely to know English, and probably use it for their job. You won't have any big problems once you are in the clubs.

When you decide what you are going to do, by all means share your experience! Next thing you know, you'll be the guy giving a new monger a tip on the forum!

Horbate

Optimist
03-22-12, 16:44
Qtpi.

Just a few additions to the good answers you have already received

1. You say you can't hold off for too long. Well, just remember that most workers will like you for that, and you can pace the session with DATY etc so you get the time in the room.

2. English will get you a very long way. However it is worth learning a half a dozen phrases in German. Not for the girls in the clubs who will not care, but so you can ask "how much?" and say a few things to people outside clubs (thank you, I'm sorry but I do not speak german, and so on). A few words can get you a nice reaction; it indicates a degre of respect for your host country.

3. Partytreff or FKK? Only you know your budget and how many, and what type (GFE or pornstar etc) of sessions you want. Partytreffs are cheaper, but the quality can be even more variable than in FKK, so if you go to a Partytreff choose carefully from the ones reported on here. Partytreffs are not normally public sex - usually only on "event" days.

Have a good trip

TheStringLover
03-23-12, 01:15
Any recommendations on the best FKKs for those of us who enjoy public action?

Qtpii
03-23-12, 06:27
Thank you all for the replies and help@FKKclubs@CaptRenno@Hbengkok@Horbate@Optimist.

I will continue to browse and plan. Will update with further queries once the travel plan is finalized (hopefully by this weekend).

Hopefully a helpful report to follow!

Akibono
03-23-12, 15:35
Any recommendations on the best FKKs for those of us who enjoy public action?You can have sex anywhere around the FKK clubs with the exception of certain areas seen by the public such as the reception area.

Dreams
03-23-12, 19:47
You can have sex anywhere around the FKK clubs with the exception of certain areas seen by the public such as the reception area.With all due respect, he was not asking "where can I have public sex in an FKK", but "which are the FKKs with most public sex".

I am also interested by this question, and more by any answer. I am planning a visit to Bernd's, where I am told a lot of public sex takes place, but are there other?

CaptRenno
03-23-12, 22:08
With respect to the question of public sex in an FKK, here's what I've observed and experienced:

1. I've never seen any rules posted in a club or on a club Web site about what is acceptable and not acceptable when it comes to public sex.

2. It's true that Bernd's has a reputation, probably more than any FKK, as being a place where public sex occurs somewhat routinely.

3. It depends on what you mean by "public sex." A blow job is more likely to happen in a public area than sex.

4. Having visited 7 FKKs, I've never actually seen anyone having sex in an area such as the bar, a sitting area, a sauna or anyplace that would normally be considered "public" except for one place-the kino. In the case of the kino, I've both seen it and done it. My impression is that there's an unwritten expectation (not necessarily a "rule") in most clubs that if you want to go at it in public, then the best place is the kino. It's public while still being somewhat discreet. Most kinos are dark, separate rooms where guys and girls go with the expectation that public sex or some sort often occurs there. Many kinos are set up with furniture that seems to facilitate public sex.

5. I've seen other somewhat discreet places in clubs where I wouldn't be surprised to see public sex. For example, there are some open, covered areas in the outdoor areas at Oase and World.

6. Not all girls (or guys, for that matter) like the idea of having sex in public. Don't just assume that a girl will go along with your wish to get it on in public. Some girls might not do it at all, some girls might deliver a discreeet blow job in the kino and then expect to retire to a private room and some girls will do just about anything you can imagine. You need to find the right girl who is willing and able to do what you want.

SwedePunter
03-23-12, 22:25
I'll visit the Palace on 28 or 29 March and I'll take a new grip on the sharks. It's going to be sex on the spot if they ask me. If all of us go with the same tactics I think the girls at Palace will get the point. I'm not the shy guy. And I will go for this so have a look out for me.

Ibn Buttita
03-23-12, 23:07
any recommendations on the best fkks for those of us who enjoy public action?
i am also interested by this question, and more by any answer. i am planning a visit to bernd's, where i am told a lot of public sex takes place, but are there other?definitely take advantage of that option. on my maiden visit to bernd's last november i was fortunate that it was not so crowded and had room to do a 69 with greek blonde jenny on a couch in the upstairs lounge, and fuck her there as well before we relocated to a room for anal.

it's not germany, but golden time in vienna has a small garden with some open-sided rooms with just a gauzy curtain so others can get a peek. they also have a couple of white vinyl covered platform-beds that are out in the open, though at the end of the garden. i'll never forget boning a voluptuous hungarian brunette one summer late afternoon on one of those platforms when a serious thunderstorm blew in, and we went at it as the high winds knocked leaves and twigs from the trees down on us. i was a little afraid of being victim of a lightning strike or a tree falling on us. how about that for an obituary! we relocated to the curtained side bedrooms as the rain began to pour down, but still got pretty wet.


5. i've seen other somewhat discreet places in clubs where i wouldn't be surprised to see public sex. for example, there are some open, covered areas in the outdoor areas at oase and world.i love that greek-temple type kiosk on the hillside at oase. i saw a guy giving to a girl in doggy up there one afternoon, and it felt like i was part of a congregation of worshipers at some sort of ancient pagan sex rite.

Boomer10
03-23-12, 23:28
Any recommendations on the best FKKs for those of us who enjoy public action?It looks like the Hof is trying to get back to it's roots. It's having a repeat of it "Couch-Aktion-Tag" from a couple of months ago.

From their web page (and a google translation) :

You missed the first couch-action day? We want to inaugurate our new couchs "Hof style"! Do you like public action? . You're not shy? Do you want to be nibbled by one (or two!) Girls? Then just say "YES" if our girls ask then "molest" you on our couch. The program goes on. OUR bill!

Unfortunately,"Couch-Aktion-Tag" was Friday 23 Mar. But if you're interested, the Hof management is encouraging "public action" and most (if not all) of the girls are available.

UShobbyist
03-23-12, 23:42
With respect to the question of public sex in an FKK, here's what I've observed and experienced:

1. I've never seen any rules posted in a club or on a club Web site about what is acceptable and not acceptable when it comes to public sex.

6. Not all girls (or guys, for that matter) like the idea of having sex in public. Don't just assume that a girl will go along with your wish to get it on in public. Some girls might not do it at all, some girls might deliver a discreeet blow job in the kino and then expect to retire to a private room and some girls will do just about anything you can imagine. You need to find the right girl who is willing and able to do what you want.If you don't like the girls to bug you, you just tell the girls that you want to have sex in public area ONLY. You can say that you don't like the smell of those private rooms.

Ibn Buttita
03-24-12, 00:06
Then just say "YES" if our girls ask then "molest" you on our couch. The program goes on. OUR bill!How would the girls make any money that day, who could pass up the offer for free sessions in the open? Is there a limit on how many times you could take advantage of the deal? Maybe that day Bernd's would attract so many guests that one would have to go to a room just for space reasons.

Gfe Finder
03-24-12, 01:29
How would the girls make any money that day, who could pass up the offer for free sessions in the open? Is there a limit on how many times you could take advantage of the deal? Maybe that day Bernd's would attract so many guests that one would have to go to a room just for space reasons.I don't know for sure but I'm guessing that the management would subsidize them. The girls got 10 free program cards to hand out among them to a guest of their choice. In theory you could do 10 free programs out in the open; in practice I'm guessing each girl had a regular who got the free program. As for it being crowded: not only was it Friday but a special day as well so yes, I'm guessing it was quite crowded.

OfficeMatt
03-24-12, 02:51
I've planned a trip to Cologne and Dusseldorf via Amsterdam and I am aiming to have a perfect week. My first 2 nights in Amsterdam in the RLD. 3 nights at FKKs in Cologne and 2 nights at FKKs in Dusseldorf. Am I bit mad? Too horny for my own good?

SwedePunter
03-24-12, 11:52
I'm not the shy guy so on March 28 or 29 I'll try somthing on the Palace.

As this is THE place for sharky ladies. I'll tell the girls who "attacks" me to get in action in public if they want anything from me. Not in the Kino. No for example in the swingbed or somewhere like that.

Will be fun. Any suggestion on which girls may swallow the bait.

Ableyone
03-24-12, 16:25
I've planned a trip to Cologne and Dusseldorf via Amsterdam and I am aiming to have a perfect week. My first 2 nights in Amsterdam in the RLD. 3 nights at FKKs in Cologne and 2 nights at FKKs in Dusseldorf. Am I bit mad? Too horny for my own good?I would spend longer in Dusseldorf than Cologne as there are more Sauna Clubs (what they call FKKs up there) within striking distance.

I don't stay in Cologne anymore as they add an extra 5% city art and culture tax to your hotel bill. Cologne is easily reached on train from Dusseldorf anyway.

7 days in a row? I couldn't really comment as I've never tried it; however I can't think of many better places to spend the day than at a club especially if the weather is good.

Occultus
03-24-12, 22:12
I've planned a trip to Cologne and Dusseldorf via Amsterdam and I am aiming to have a perfect week. My first 2 nights in Amsterdam in the RLD. 3 nights at FKKs in Cologne and 2 nights at FKKs in Dusseldorf. Am I bit mad? Too horny for my own good?Yes, you are mad. That is too many nights in a row. Consider taking 2 or 3 nights off in between. Also, I find mixing market tiers (RLD and FKK) to be suspect: indicates you don't really know what you want to do.

Occultus
03-24-12, 22:14
I'm not the shy guy so on March 28 or 29 I'll try somthing on the Palace.

As this is THE place for sharky ladies. I'll tell the girls who "attacks" me to get in action in public if they want anything from me. Not in the Kino. No for example in the swingbed or somewhere like that.

Will be fun. Any suggestion on which girls may swallow the bait.As usual, RTFF. But briefly, consider another venue. Unlikely at Palace you'll get public action outside the Kino.

SwedePunter
03-25-12, 00:01
As usual, RTFF. But briefly, consider another venue. Unlikely at Palace you'll get public action outside the Kino.Ok, but performing so could be an act of declaring. "I choose the girl I want to go to room with". Likely the "sharks" will get the point. Fuck me in public or not at all. Ok if they suggest the kino I'm not to hard to convince as long as she goes all the way there.

Watch out for me.

Zhugeyaz
03-25-12, 00:44
Thank you all for the replies and help@FKKclubs@CaptRenno@Hbengkok@Horbate@Optimist.

I will continue to browse and plan. Will update with further queries once the travel plan is finalized (hopefully by this weekend).

Hopefully a helpful report to follow!Hey dude, I will be in frankfurt 25-29 March.

If you need a wingman, come to frankfurt. I m a noob too.

Hbengkok
03-25-12, 07:30
I've planned a trip to Cologne and Dusseldorf via Amsterdam and I am aiming to have a perfect week. My first 2 nights in Amsterdam in the RLD. 3 nights at FKKs in Cologne and 2 nights at FKKs in Dusseldorf. Am I bit mad? Too horny for my own good?Well, only you yourself can answer that question. How old are you? How is your stamina? How many FJ / FS can you handle in one night (not a whole night actually)? If you only do it once or two per night, maybe that's not a problem. It's all depends on you. Last but not least, your wallet LOL.

Optimist
03-25-12, 10:11
I'm assuming you are new to the game. Don't worry about mixing RLDs and FKKs etc. You will soon identify which works best for you. Or maybe the mixing is what works for you. Don't expect a perfect week, but adapt to events and how you feel.

Don't be surprised if (as Occultus suggests) you need a while off (or maybe - this is my approach - one or two days with just a few sessions when in FKKs) One approach is to make sure you don't come at every session but then if you are 18 that approach is probably irrelevant.

I always have a schedule which I never complete (usually because I run out of steam at some point).

Good hunting

OfficeMatt
03-26-12, 01:06
Hi guys,

This will be my 3rd FKK tour. I am quite up to date on the RLD (I was referring to Amsterdam, not German version) , so I know what I want. I will be landing and leaving from AMS, so RLD is a must, with coffeeshops to boot. I did look at the odd German RLD and well, not much there to my liking. I'm coming armed with little blue and little orange pills to help me out, so I think perfection is a reality.

Also, I am from Canada, so we don't really have the liberal mindedness as you do as it comes to many things, but particularly the FKK. I love it. So I indulge, or overindulge.

Thanks for the pointer on Dusseldorf vs. Cologne. I think I have figured that out as well, much to my chagrin. Especially so since a gal I wanted to see in Cologne (Cecill at Samya) is nowhere to be found. My hotel reservations are not fixed in stone, so I can definitely fix that.

Thanks for your input everyone.

Matt

TomRifle
03-26-12, 14:30
I will be in Germany in a small town in between Luxembourg and Saarbrucken. From looking at FKK and Partytreff map my closest option is Saarbrucken, which is 90 km away (1 hour by train). Is it good FKK 214 in Saarbrucken and Poppstall Saarbrücken partytreff? Are there any other options in the region?

Burma Jones
03-26-12, 17:57
Office Matt,

I like a mixture of RLD vs FKK. I find that after paying an entry fee at an FKK, I feel obligated to stay several hours if not the whole day. In the RLD, I can chose to session and only spend 30 minutes to an hour with the rest of the day spent vacationing. I second the opinions about taking some break though.

Burma

Toscana
03-26-12, 22:30
I will be in Germany in a small town in between Luxembourg and Saarbrucken. From looking at FKK and Partytreff map my closest option is Saarbrucken, which is 90 km away (1 hour by train). Is it good FKK 214 in Saarbrucken and Poppstall Saarbrücken partytreff? Are there any other options in the region?Well, my geography is a bit different from yours. Luxembourg and Saarbrücken are 100 kms apart with no train connection, so I don't know how you can be between them, in Germany and still 90 kms away. LOL.

Whatever.

Forget Luxembourg.

I would recommend you go to FKK Prestige in Neunkirchen, which has a better reputation. Not much further away. Look at my recent report. Forget Poppstall, unless you are on a very tight budget. It has a poor reputation. If you want help on individual brothels in the area (not FKKs), suggest you send me a PM. If you decide on Prestige, let me know. I may be that way myself. Have fun.

If you have transport and more time, go to Frankfurt.

OfficeMatt
03-27-12, 02:00
Office Matt,

I like a mixture of RLD vs FKK. I find that after paying an entry fee at an FKK, I feel obligated to stay several hours if not the whole day. In the RLD, I can chose to session and only spend 30 minutes to an hour with the rest of the day spent vacationing. I second the opinions about taking some break though.

BurmaThanks Burma Jones, I like that point of view. I will however be doing my touristy stuff during the mornings and afternoons and the will be at the FKK by 4:00 or so.

All input has been appreciated!

Qtpii
03-27-12, 05:00
Hey dude, I will be in frankfurt 25-29 March.

If you need a wingman, come to frankfurt. I m a noob too.Hey buddy. I'll be there sometime arnd the second week of Apr. Won't be able to make it that early! Perhaps we'll run in some other time!

Happy mongering!

TomRifle
03-27-12, 13:54
Well, my geography is a bit different from yours. Luxembourg and Saarbrücken are 100 kms apart with no train connection, so I don't know how you can be between them, in Germany and still 90 kms away. LOL.Thanks for the tip. Well, I'll be 40 km from Luxembourg. 90 from Saarbrucken and 100 from Neukirchen. So maybe I'll try Prestige. I'll send you PM about other brothels as I am interested not only in FKK.

Chukar
03-27-12, 22:15
Does anyone know if there is a Messe / Convention going on in Frankfurt on the weekend.

Of April 20, 21, Friday and Saturday?

Thanks,

Chukar

Myrmidon
03-28-12, 04:19
Does anyone know if there is a Messe / Convention going on in Frankfurt on the weekend.

Of April 20, 21, Friday and Saturday?

Thanks,

ChukarLight & Building ends Friday.

http://www.messefrankfurt.com/content/dam/corporate/messe/publikationen/MF_Kalender_Frankfurt_LD_e_Internet.pdf

There may be other, smaller ones, but this is all I found.

Myr.

SwedePunter
03-28-12, 09:42
As I sometimes get a rash from latexcondoms I bought a latexfree kind before I left Sweden. "Pasante unique" ultra thin (made in England). Made of some quite strechy material close to a thin plasticbag.

Went to a place in FRA RLD and choosed a girl. Asked if could use my own latexfree condom. She wanted to see the package, took out the condom and tried to burst it with her tumb with no success. Put on and then CBJ. Man I could not feel the thing at all. Went on fucking her doggy and 2 minutes after starting the pounding I pulled out to see if it still was there. In again and what a feeling. Wanted this to last forever but it was to nice so I came inside her bigtime. You can't feel the condom and I tought it had bursted. Felt like doing it bareback. But hell no it was allright. The girl was happy with it to. Said it felt like BBBJ in the mouth.

Only negative is that it cost eur 1. 8 a piece. I can live with that. Unfortunealtly I just bought 5 of them. Will go down to rld in FRA to have a loock for more. Today I'll try it at Mainhattan.

SwedePunter
03-28-12, 09:43
As I sometimes get a rash from latexcondoms I bought a latexfree kind before I left Sweden. "Pasante unique" ultra thin (made in England). Made of some quite strechy material close to a thin plasticbag.

Went to a place in FRA RLD and choosed a girl. Asked if could use my own latexfree condom. She wanted to see the package, took out the condom and tried to burst it with her tumb with no success. Put on and then CBJ. Man I could not feel the thing at all. Went on fucking her doggy and 2 minutes after starting the pounding I pulled out to see if it still was there. In again and what a feeling. Wanted this to last forever but it was to nice so I came inside her bigtime. You can't feel the condom and I tought it had bursted. Felt like doing it bareback. But hell no it was allright. The girl was happy with it to. Said it felt like BBBJ in the mouth.

Only negative is that it cost eur 1. 8 a piece. I can live with that. Unfortunealtly I just bought 5 of them. Will go down to rld in FRA to have a loock for more. Today I'll try it at Mainhattan.

Chukar
03-28-12, 11:55
Thanks Myr, I was looking for a hotel and the rates were really high so I was wondering if there was a Messe.

SwedePunter
03-28-12, 18:12
I was interrupted and tought it may not would be sent.

London Traveller
03-28-12, 21:26
Thanks Myr, I was looking for a hotel and the rates were really high so I was wondering if there was a Messe.Must be something going on if the rates are high. Last time I was in Frankfurt when a messe was on I ended up booking a hotel in Wiesbaden which didn't seem to have raised its prices for the event.

Nille Copenhagen
03-29-12, 14:25
As I sometimes get a rash from latexcondoms I bought a latexfree kind before I left Sweden. "Pasante unique" ultra thin (made in England). Made of some quite strechy material close to a thin plasticbag.Hey SwedePunter, I hope this the not the condom you are referring to, then it sucks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvyOE1nDcJI

Super Cum 500
03-29-12, 16:47
As I sometimes get a rash from latexcondoms I bought a latexfree kind before I left Sweden."Pasante unique" ultra thin (made in England). Made of some quite strechy material close to a thin plasticbag.

Went to a place in FRA RLD and choosed a girl. Asked if could use my own latexfree condom. She wanted to see the package, took out the condom and tried to burst it with her tumb with no success. Put on and then CBJ. Man I could not feel the thing at all. Went on fucking her doggy and 2 minutes after starting the pounding I pulled out to see if it still was there. In again and what a feeling. Wanted this to last forever but it was to nice so I came inside her bigtime. You can't feel the condom and I tought it had bursted. Felt like doing it bareback. But hell no it was allright. The girl was happy with it to. Said it felt like BBBJ in the mouth.

Only negative is that it cost eur 1. 8 a piece. I can live with that. Unfortunealtly I just bought 5 of them. Will go down to rld in FRA to have a loock for more. Today I'll try it at Mainhattan.Hey these ones are really good huh? Feels like you aint wearing one? You can bring your own condoms to FKK / RLD etc?

Well amazon and other websites are best to buy in bulk

Example.

72 condoms for £42. 50.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pasante-Unique-Ultra-Sensitive-Condoms-x72/dp/B002YTQBFS/ref=sr_1_3?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1333035670&sr=1-3

I'm sure search web you will find even bettter deals.

I may try these out, reviews seem good though perhaps potential to slip off more and it needs lube.

SwedePunter
03-29-12, 18:09
Hey SwedePunter, I hope this the not the condom you are referring to, then it sucks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvyOE1nDcJIWell Nille. First of all my dick is not as thin as that screwdriver. Is yours?. Sits like a saussageskin on mine. And is a sensational feeling.

Second there are people icl me who has an allergy to latex.

Henio
03-30-12, 00:47
Hey SwedePunter, I hope this the not the condom you are referring to, then it sucks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvyOE1nDcJIOn one hand we have SwedePunter that fucked with the condom and says it was great. On the other hand we have some dude putting a condom on screwdriver on youtube. Yes, of course we are going to believe the guy with the screwdriver since that is the natural way to test condoms.

Nille Copenhagen
03-30-12, 01:08
On one hand we have SwedePunter that fucked with the condom and says it was great. On the other hand we have some dude putting a condom on screwdriver on youtube. Yes, of course we are going to believe the guy with the screwdriver since that is the natural way to test condoms.Ok, then I'm going to make a scientific test with the condoms myself. If it make this plastic sound then I've already doom it.

I'll be back with my conclusion.

Lorenzo
03-30-12, 02:50
On one hand we have SwedePunter that fucked with the condom and says it was great. On the other hand we have some dude putting a condom on screwdriver on youtube. Yes, of course we are going to believe the guy with the screwdriver since that is the natural way to test condoms.I bought a packet of these condoms a few years ago and tried using them with a provider in Brazil. The girl refused because the condom was loose at the bottom and didn't hug the base of the penis. She was afraid that it would fall off, and I think she was right. I had to use a Trojan Supra (a fine condom) in order to fuck her. Besides, this condom isn't lubricated. I have never tried to use one since. The video is right; the Pasante sucks.

Akibono
03-30-12, 03:01
Best condom is Crown. Very, very thin and made of latex. It is standard in the porn industry when they use condoms. Also, price is very reasonable.

The Cane
03-31-12, 18:19
Ok, then I'm going to make a scientific test with the condoms myself. If it make this plastic sound then I've already doom it.

I'll be back with my conclusion.I highly recommend Kimono MicroThins (non-lubricated). Perhaps you might have an opportunity to include one of these in your study and tell us how it stacks up against the others. I want to use the thinnest condoms commercially available in order to have a little as possible between me and the girl haha! That way it feels so much more pleasurable for both of us.

Free Dude
04-02-12, 14:06
From yesterday onwards the new 'standard price' in the Duesseldorf area seems to be E60. It has mentioned in a few clubthreads already, but to recap: Golden Time, Living Room, Planet Happy Garden and Villa Vertigo have raised there prices (apparently YingYang is thinking about following). There is also some speculation (unfounded up till now) that session prices will go up to either 60-30 or 50-50.

It remains to be seen how the other NRW clubs (Freude, Acapulco, Samya, Park Sauna Rezidenz, Babylon, Planet Eden) will respond.

Creature2
04-02-12, 15:15
From yesterday onwards the new 'standard price' in the Duesseldorf area seems to be E60. It has mentioned in a few clubthreads already, but to recap: Golden Time, Living Room, Planet Happy Garden and Villa Vertigo have raised there prices (apparently YingYang is thinking about following). There is also some speculation (unfounded up till now) that session prices will go up to either 60-30 or 50-50.

It remains to be seen how the other NRW clubs (Freude, Acapulco, Samya, Park Sauna Rezidenz, Babylon, Planet Eden) will respond.This is real interesting. I wonder if the service level will also increase.

The Germans business people have always the tendancy to increase the price when the business is going good, this is a part of their business model. I can say then this business is going real well in Germany, %20 increase is beyond the expectations. This is quite the contrary in some countries suffering with the economical difficulties such as Spain and Portugal, there is a tendancy to decrease the prices of sex business altogether with the service quality.

Free Dude
04-02-12, 16:55
This is real interesting. I wonder if the service level will also increase.

The Germans business people have always the tendancy to increase the price when the business is going good, this is a part of their business model. I can say then this business is going real well in Germany, %20 increase is beyond the expectations. This is quite the contrary in some countries suffering with the economical difficulties such as Spain and Portugal, there is a tendancy to decrease the prices of sex business altogether with the service quality.Well it should be said that the prices have been the same forever (PHG for 17 years if I recall correctly!) even before the Euro (100DM). It is interesting to see if clubs are going to lose business. GT will probably be fine, but a place like Living Room? We will see. I'm not sure the clubs are particularly succesful at present, even GT isn't as crowded as a number of months ago.

Nille Copenhagen
04-02-12, 17:15
I was surprised that LR would also raised the entry to 60€.

NRW prices are catching up with Hessen prices, wonder if Hessen clubs also will raise there prices.

Mainhattan has now lower entry prices 59€.

Look at Artemis with 85€ and business is still good.

I like longer sessions and have been happy with the 50+25 price structure

If the prices would be 50+50 as default then I might not visit NRW clubs so often but visit more the Hessen clubs instead.

During crisis we still need to eat and fuck. I remember I met a guy at Oase who told everybody that he was so sad because he was out of job,

But now he had lots of time to fuck in the clubs, so he hang out in the clubs every week until he ran out of money.

Angus Magee
04-02-12, 17:22
Look at Artemis with 85€ and business is still good.Unless they have sneaked in a price rise on me Artemis is €80 to get in the door. Expensive but it really is the only game in town here in Berlin.

AM

Nille Copenhagen
04-02-12, 17:42
Unless they have sneaked in a price rise on me Artemis is €80 to get in the door. Expensive but it really is the only game in town here in Berlin.

AMSorry my bad, yes it's of cause 80€ at Artemis.

Artemis is expensive.

On the other hand flights are quite cheap to Berlin from here.

Dedalus
04-02-12, 18:09
This is real interesting. I wonder if the service level will also increase.

The Germans business people have always the tendancy to increase the price when the business is going good, this is a part of their business model. I can say then this business is going real well in Germany, %20 increase is beyond the expectations. This is quite the contrary in some countries suffering with the economical difficulties such as Spain and Portugal, there is a tendency to decrease the prices of sex business altogether with the service quality.Not quite true. While D'land may be doing well compared to many EU neighbors, there are quite a number of significant businesses that filed for bankruptcy since the start of 2012. Two big drugstore chains (Schlecker and Ihr Platz) filed this year. A number of fitness studio chains are staring bankruptcy in the face. Also a number of state sponsored organizations are dealing with substantial budget cuts, or getting eliminated altogether. There is definitely a ripple effect floating through the land and there is pretty much a new story per week about this or that business or institution face times of crisis.

Holland is dealing with much of the same problems. 60 Euro Eintritt is actually a bold move that I doubt will sit well with either the locals or the dutch neighbors. Also if the entire pricing model (entrance and service) changes to the Hessen standard, then I'm not sure where the incentive is for the locals to head in that direction. And deal with NRW traffic crap to deal with clubs that facilities-wise are on the whole lower standards than Hessen and Baden Württemberg. Also BW has quite a few clubs now that are slowly improving in terms of line-up quality and service standards.

Personally, I've been off the GT bandwagon for some time now, mostly due to a big drop in service standards IMHO. LR kinda dropped a bit in my esteem as well. Aca is where I usually head to when I happen to be in the NRW area, and I can't be 100% sure, but it would really surprise me if they changed their pricing model.

I'm guessing that the lowlanders will grumble, yet still make their way to the Golden Triangle places. Same with the locals who live close by. However I wonder if tourists doing their Teutonic Sex romps (most of whom probably fly into Frankfurt) will think it is worthwhile to brave the Köln / D'dorf Stau (which is ridiculous at the moment) to get to those places.

Personally, I wouldn't. But that's just me.

Cheers,

Dedalus, perfectly satisfied with the BW, Hessen scene, and an occasional SE Asia or Spain run.

Breadman
04-02-12, 19:39
There is also some speculation (unfounded up till now) that session prices will go up to either 60-30 or 50-50.Unfounded means its baseless, groundless. By adding 'up till now' your giving the impression that the prices have now increased for the girls. So what is it? Unfounded or factual?


Personally, I've been off the GT bandwagon for some time now, mostly due to a big drop in service standards IMHO. LR kinda dropped a bit in my esteem as well. Aca is where I usually head to when I happen to be in the NRW area, and I can't be 100% sure, but it would really surprise me if they changed their pricing model.

I'm guessing that the lowlanders will grumble, yet still make their way to the Golden Triangle places. Same with the locals who live close by. However I wonder if tourists doing their Teutonic Sex romps (most of whom probably fly into Frankfurt) will think it is worthwhile to brave the Köln / D'dorf Stau (which is ridiculous at the moment) to get to those places.It all comes down to the quality of the lineup, VV and PHG will be hurting big time in the early part of the week. Girls will quit showing up to work at clubs where few guys show up, possibly making a move to GT or Aca. And you are absolutely correct on the sex tourists who might bypass that entire area. I'm so used to staying at the Frankfurt clubs until 3 or 4am that NRW 1am closing times were always a bit discouraging. I'd still make a visit but instead of a 2 or 3 day stopover I'd hit the club for one day.

Free Dude
04-02-12, 19:46
Unfounded means its baseless, groundless. By adding 'up till now' your giving the impression that the prices have now increased for the girls. So what is it? Unfounded or factual?I don't really get what you mean, but I'll rephrase: at this moment it is just rumours that prices for sessions will go up. Just like it were 'just rumours' that VV, LR and PHG would follow GT, when it became clear GT was going to raise their prices. I still wouldn't expect the session prices to go up soon, but there are a lot of people on the forums that have insider info (not me) , as could be seen by the quick reports that the bigger clubs in the area would follow GT (which later turned out to be true).

Breadman
04-02-12, 20:55
I don't really get what you mean, but I'll rephrase: at this moment it is just rumours that prices for sessions will go up. Just like it were 'just rumours' that VV, LR and PHG would follow GT, when it became clear GT was going to raise their prices. I still wouldn't expect the session prices to go up soon, but there are a lot of people on the forums that have insider info (not me) , as could be seen by the quick reports that the bigger clubs in the area would follow GT (which later turned out to be true).Raising the entrance price to the club (s) are one thing, the club (s) benefit with every guy walking thru the door. Raising the fee for the ladies? The club (s) doesn't see a penny of what they make in the rooms, why risk alienating customers who are already upset at paying 10 euro's more at the door? That would be suicide.

In the end, the guys go where the girls are and vice versa. Its the nature of supply and demand. Why do you think Acapulco is doing so well? Low entrance and lower rates for the girls in a time where unemployment is at its highest. Now imagine what would have happened if PHG and VV announced dropping their entrance 10 euro's down to 40?

Free Dude
04-02-12, 21:43
Raising the entrance price to the club (s) are one thing, the club (s) benefit with every guy walking thru the door. Raising the fee for the ladies? The club (s) doesn't see a penny of what they make in the rooms, why risk alienating customers who are already upset at paying 10 euro's more at the door? That would be suicide.

In the end, the guys go where the girls are and vice versa. Its the nature of supply and demand. Why do you think Acapulco is doing so well? Low entrance and lower rates for the girls in a time where unemployment is at its highest. Now imagine what would have happened if PHG and VV announced dropping their entrance 10 euro's down to 40?You have a point off course, but I believe 'the girls' in GT have been pushing for a price change for a while now (hence the girls that ask 100 an hour). If their entry fee would have gone up as well, it would sort of make sense for them to ask more. I just read on a German forum that the girls now pay the same entry fee as before, so any talk of raising the session prices is probably premature / not going to happen.

Your argument about the economic times also apply to the current prise raise in GT / VV / LR / PHG. For many people Acapulco isn't really competition to the mentioned clubs anyway (too far away) ; I also think Acapulco has to compete with the Ruhrpot clubs (Penelope, Salome, Arabella, Bel Ami, etc.) that have even lower rates (often for shorter sessions). Facilities there aren't of the same level either (just like quality control). It would be interesting to see how a price drop would work out for VV / PHG (just like I'm interested to see how the price hike is going to play out) , but a majority of the people seem to say they are going stay loyal to their favorite clubs regardless. If they hadn't reached a consensus amongst each other, I doubt any of the clubs would have raised their prices BTW. We will see how it pans out.

Dedalus
04-02-12, 22:07
For many people Acapulco isn't really competition to the mentioned clubs anyway (too far away) .Hey,

I'm also not quite sure that this is true. On all my visits to Aca, I've seen QUITE a few familiar faces (dutch, belgian and German) from the GT / LR regular club goers. Velbert is not THAT far away for car driving folk, and the price savings, better facilities and pretty strong line-up count for a good deal. There are ALWAYS lots of yellow license plates in the parking lot, and a number of white with red lettering as well. From what I've observed, Aca has indeed turned out to be healthy competition for the golden triangle places.

Bread's right about the line-up quality being King. Another couple of factors might be the free beer at GT, LR and PHG as opposed to the drink limits at Aca. For the guys who normally used the Golden Triangle clubs as a place to hang out all day and get toasted on Veltins. 60 EUR may still be a good deal compared to others places. Also, the entrance policy at GT (which I've always found to be over-exaggerated and misrepresented here) could also be a factor if it indeed has legs. I've never seen anyone turned away at Aca.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Nille Copenhagen
04-03-12, 03:42
2 of my regulars@GT also mentioned the entry for the girls will stay the same. I had a feeling LR's entry would go up as every locker in GT has a small package with a wet towel & 10E discount card inside.LR costs now 60€.

HungryStud101
04-04-12, 23:15
Hello,

I am Planning a hobby weekend at an FKK April 29-May 1st. I just found out that Monday May 1st is a Holiday in most of Europe.

I am asking because I have been burned before. For example, you do not go to Thailand on the Kings Birthday and I ran into problems with Privies in Brazil on Carnaval weekend. So before I buy my ticket I would like to know if there is a chance that everything may be closed or if not closed, may the FKK be scarce of beautiful woman because they are traveling home for the holiday weekend.

Can anyone give me a heads up on this?

Thanks

Ableyone
04-05-12, 00:04
Hello,

I am Planning a hobby weekend at an FKK April 29-May 1st. I just found out that Monday May 1st is a Holiday in most of Europe.

I am asking because I have been burned before. For example, you do not go to Thailand on the Kings Birthday and I ran into problems with Privies in Brazil on Carnaval weekend. So before I buy my ticket I would like to know if there is a chance that everything may be closed or if not closed, may the FKK be scarce of beautiful woman because they are traveling home for the holiday weekend.

Can anyone give me a heads up on this?

ThanksThis question has recently been covered in the Oase thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1260725&viewfull=1#post1260725

BTW. May 1st falls on a Tuesday here in Europe.

CoupleAwesome
04-08-12, 12:11
Friends. I understand from my colleagues who had been Germany that Language can be an issue and hence clarifying al my questions upfront. Once I reach Frankfurt International Airport, I plan to store my luggage there and catch the S-bahn train. Can I know how and where I will be able to purchase the train ticket? Will the Credit cards from outide Germany be used for that? Also once I purchase the tickets, to whom should I show the ticket. Do I have to do anything with the ticket before I get into the train or will there be a inspector inside the train?

I am also worried of how will I come to know of my stop (Bad homburg, Fredischof) if all the places are written in German.

Please help me with any tips you have on the above.

Thank you and have happy Easter every one!

London Traveller
04-08-12, 22:55
I am also worried of how will I come to know of my stop (Bad homburg, Fredischof) if all the places are written in German.I have just checked my Schnellbahnplan.

FYI the station Bad homburg in German is 'Bad Homburg'. The station Fredischof is 'Friedrichsdorf'. These words will be written on the signs on the station platforms. Hope this helps.

I find that the ticket machines in Frankfurt are a bit confusing - I manage by asking locals for advice. Usually they speak some English. I have never yet been asked to do anything with my ticket or show it to anyone, although I'm confident that the inspectors must be out there somewhere. I have also never had any problems using my UK credit card in Germany but I make sure I carry some Euros as well and always use these for paying for local train tickets.

PussyLiccker
04-08-12, 23:23
Friends. I understand from my colleagues who had been Germany that Language can be an issue and hence clarifying al my questions upfront. Once I reach Frankfurt International Airport, I plan to store my luggage there and catch the S-bahn train. Can I know how and where I will be able to purchase the train ticket? Will the Credit cards from outide Germany be used for that? Also once I purchase the tickets, to whom should I show the ticket. Do I have to do anything with the ticket before I get into the train or will there be a inspector inside the train?

I am also worried of how will I come to know of my stop (Bad homburg, Fredischof) if all the places are written in German.

Please help me with any tips you have on the above.

Thank you and have happy Easter every one!I know the for first timers it can be overwhelming. My advice is at the main airport terminal, close to the baggage claims look for S-bahn sign and follow it, and take the train to 'Hauptbahanhof, ' which is means central station in German. You will see RWV machines around the S-bahn area. There is a choice to have the machine translate in english, and you can do a search, or you will choose Frankfurt Main I believe, and if it costs you 4. 10 euros, it should be the right ticket. As london traveler said, there are bahn ticket checkers that does random checks, so have the ticker in hand and you should have no worries. I believe the train is either S8 or S9 or both, but make sure you are going the right direction. Although the train have numbers on them (S8 or S9 etc.) , the direction of the train is based on the name of the last stop of the train. So look at the nearby bahn map and look for any trains that goes through Hauptbahnhof, and get the name of the last stop, and the train number, and get on that side of the track. Or ask a cute German girl nearby, they are very friendly, and who knows what it may lead into. You cannot miss Hauptbahnhof, it's a huge station, and there are signs stating it's Hauptbahnhof when you get there. Once inside the station, look for signs that direct you to S5 toward Friedrichesdorf (or ask a cute German girls again). Before walking down the stairs you will see near by RMV machine to purchase ticket. Put it in English mode and do a search for Friedrichesdorf and it should cost you 4. 10 Euros. Once at the Friedrichesdorf (last stop so you can't possibly miss) , there is usually taxis waiting, if not either wait for one or call for one (nearby phone there is a business card with numbers). Remember, last train back to Hauptbahnhof is around midnight, and if you decide to stay longer, next one runs around 4:35 in the morning. Enjoy your time at Oase, it's a very special club.

Myrmidon
04-08-12, 23:32
catch the S-bahn train. Can I know how and where I will be able to purchase the train ticket? Will the Credit cards from outide Germany be used for that? Also once I purchase the tickets, to whom should I show the ticket. Do I have to do anything with the ticket before I get into the train or will there be a inspector.I have made 4 trips (with 1 pending) speaking No German. No problem!

Follow the signs to the trains. Enter the station and the ticket machines are right in front of you, as is a money changing store if needed. Last time I was there the machines were taking only correct change. Which I got at the money store! I believe there is also a small DB office there. Do not be afraid to ask for help: look for the businessmen in suits. Get your ticket & head down to track 1. Keep your ticket handy in a pocket, just in case you are asked for it. I have never been asked.

Re: credit cards, coming from across the pond, I have to advise my bank to unblock me for Europe. You made need a suitable PIN.

I always get some "seed" €'s before I go. Then use ATM's as needed. And no,"seed" €'s don't grow if planted.

Myr.

Horbate
04-09-12, 03:13
Friends. I understand from my colleagues who had been Germany that Language can be an issue and hence clarifying al my questions upfront. Once I reach Frankfurt International Airport, I plan to store my luggage there and catch the S-bahn train. Can I know how and where I will be able to purchase the train ticket? Will the Credit cards from outide Germany be used for that? Also once I purchase the tickets, to whom should I show the ticket. Do I have to do anything with the ticket before I get into the train or will there be a inspector inside the train?

I am also worried of how will I come to know of my stop (Bad homburg, Fredischof) if all the places are written in German.

Please help me with any tips you have on the above.

Thank you and have happy Easter every one!CoupleAwesome-

This is a typical example of what you are looking for in Germany. No, in front of her, the red DB ticket machine!

Horbate

CaptRenno
04-09-12, 03:24
Will the Credit cards from outide Germany be used for that?If you have a credit card issued by a bank in the USA, you might have a problem with a ticket machine. Most USA-issued credit cards do not have an embedded microchip like European-issued cards do. The USA cards only have the traditional magnetic strip. I can't remember whether the ticket machines in Germany require a microchip card, but they might. If they do, well, then you just use cash. So make sure you have some Euros on you, and if you are headed for an FKK, then you better have some Euros on you!

Here's some good advice on credit cards in Europe:

http://www.ricksteves.com/tms/article.cfm?id=243&extras=false

http://blogs.reuters.com/reuters-money/2011/09/28/why-u-s-credit-cards-fail-overseas/

Banana Boi
04-09-12, 04:06
This is a typical example of what you are looking for in Germany. No, in front of her, the red DB ticket machine!Please tell me she's on her way to work at Oase. lol

Horbate
04-09-12, 04:30
Please tell me she's on her way to work at Oase. lolBanana Boi-

She has always been a working girl, according to my fantasy!

Horbate

Breadman
04-09-12, 06:42
Can I know how and where I will be able to purchase the train ticket?Had the same issue's myself in January. Get off the plane, follow the heard towards customs. Get thru customs and look at the ceiling at the blue signs, look for signs for the train station. There are two stations, one for local trains and the other for the longer city to city trains. You want the local train. Once you find the stairs heading down to the local train you should stop and look around, there are two different sets of stairs heading down. The stairs for trains heading into Frankfurt and its sign are partially hidden by a wall. Make note of those stairs and then go and find your locker. When your on the platform a sign will tell you how many minutes until the next train. Go to the machine and key in friedrichsdorf and a fare will pop up (my fare said 4. 10e, not sure that was correct or not). My train made several stops, the last was the main train station. Get off and walk towards all the shops. Look for a set of stairs heading downstairs for the local trains, you should see a sign that tells you friedrichsdorf. A sign on the train will announce each stop as it comes up. Friedrichsdorf is the last stop of the line if I'm correct.

CoupleAwesome
04-09-12, 10:24
Friends. Thank you. Thank you very much for all the posts reg my question, appreciate it very much.

Can I purchase a ticket for few trips and charge it one ticket and use the same ticket again and again? (for eg: in Dubai, we can buy for 1 week and use the same ticket again and again till the cash value comes down to 0) , can we use the same here or do we have to purchase one ticket each time for each to and fro travel?

Also, I am assuming that the same ticket buying mechanism that you all have mentioned in Frankfurt central is available in Friedrichsdorf station also for my return if I have to buy a seperate ticket to come back.

Thank you all once again.


Had the same issue's myself in January. Get off the plane, follow the heard towards customs. Get thru customs and look at the ceiling at the blue signs, look for signs for the train station. There are two stations, one for local trains and the other for the longer city to city trains. You want the local train. Once you find the stairs heading down to the local train you should stop and look around, there are two different sets of stairs heading down. The stairs for trains heading into Frankfurt and its sign are partially hidden by a wall. Make note of those stairs and then go and find your locker. When your on the platform a sign will tell you how many minutes until the next train. Go to the machine and key in friedrichsdorf and a fare will pop up (my fare said 4. 10e, not sure that was correct or not). My train made several stops, the last was the main train station. Get off and walk towards all the shops. Look for a set of stairs heading downstairs for the local trains, you should see a sign that tells you friedrichsdorf. A sign on the train will announce each stop as it comes up. Friedrichsdorf is the last stop of the line if I'm correct.

Dedalus
04-09-12, 15:17
Friends. Thank you. Thank you very much for all the posts reg my question, appreciate it very much.

Can I purchase a ticket for few trips and charge it one ticket and use the same ticket again and again? (for eg: in Dubai, we can buy for 1 week and use the same ticket again and again till the cash value comes down to 0) , can we use the same here or do we have to purchase one ticket each time for each to and fro travel?

Also, I am assuming that the same ticket buying mechanism that you all have mentioned in Frankfurt central is available in Friedrichsdorf station also for my return if I have to buy a seperate ticket to come back.

Thank you all once again.Hey,

None of this is really all that complicated, but the options are numerous.

First of all, there are two types of train ticket machines: The DB ones that Horbate posted a picture of, and the regional "RMV" machines. ANY credit card with a stripe or chip works in the DB machines. Only chip cards work in the RMV ones. In many of the DB machines you can purchase RMW (S, U Bah and tram / bus tickets) journeys. One option might be for you to purchase a 3 day group pass (if you are bringing your lady) for 77, 10 EUR. A 3-day ticket for one person is 42, 75. A single, one way journey to Friedrichsdorf from the airport is 7, 30 EUR. The day passes I mentioned will cover all travel (bus, train, tram, U-bahn) in the Frankfurt zones that you will probably need. These passes are only NOT valid on IC / EC and ICE trains.

I you are at all confused about how the machines work, then just go to one of the DB counters at the airport (there is one in the Fernbahnhof and one close to where the regional trains run) and tell them what you need.

It's been said before, but you might consider renting a car. It might be cheaper in the long run, when you consider train ticket costs, taxi costs, etc. Plus the convenience of being able to travel when you want is worth a good deal IMHO.

Good luck,

Dedalus

Myrmidon
04-09-12, 15:30
Friends. Thank you. Thank you very much for all the posts reg my question, appreciate it very much.

Can I purchase a ticket for few trips and charge it one ticket and use the same ticket again and again? (for eg: in Dubai, we can buy for 1 week and use the same ticket again and again till the cash value comes down to 0) , can we use the same here or do we have to purchase one ticket each time for each to and fro travel?You may purchase a 'day' ticket which usually would be cost effective for 3 or more trips. So, a day ticket for within the Frankfurt zone would be good to go sightseeing say at the zoo, then off to Palace & back to your hotel. Oase (Friedrichsdorf) is outside the Frankfurt zone and a seperate ticket. You may buy a day ticket for there, or get a return ticket from the machine at the station in Friedrichsdorf.

There is also a discount on tickets within Frankfurt if you buy after morning rush hour. All this info is available on the DB web site.

www.bahn.de

I believe you may purchase a week ticket for Frankfurt, but that is done at the DB office.

Finally, purchasing longer trip tickets, ie FRA to Hennef (Seig) (for Bernds) , gets a discount if done 3 or more days in advance.

I believe that's about it. But see what the senior mongers say & check the web site.

Myr.


Also, I am assuming that the same ticket buying mechanism that you all have mentioned in Frankfurt central is available in Friedrichsdorf station also for my return if I have to buy a seperate ticket to come back.

Thank you all once again.

Ableyone
04-10-12, 23:40
The cost of a single journey from Frankfurt Flughafen (5090) to Friedrichsdorf (5125) via Bad Homburg is currently 4. 10 Euros.

The cost of a day ticket is currently 8. 00 Euros. Hence a day ticket is now cheaper than two singles.

The same prices apply if travelling from Frankfurt City (50).

Breadman
04-11-12, 01:23
The cost of a single journey from Frankfurt Flughafen (5090) to Friedrichsdorf (5125) via Bad Homburg is currently 4. 10 Euros.

The cost of a day ticket is currently 8. 00 Euros. Hence a day ticket is now cheaper than two singles.Will a day ticket bought on a Tuesday be good for Wednesday? Most people arrive at Oase on one day and travel back to Frankfurt at 5am the following day.

Dedalus
04-11-12, 10:47
Will a day ticket bought on a Tuesday be good for Wednesday? Most people arrive at Oase on one day and travel back to Frankfurt at 5am the following day."It is valid for one calendar day until close of operations or the last journey of the day." According to my RMV app.

Check out the RMV site. Explains options and everything else pretty well. And in English:

http://www.rmv.de/en/Fahrkarten/Die_richtige_Fahrkarte/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Tageskarten/

Cheers,

Dedalus

Jymondor
04-11-12, 15:20
Gents, is there anything I should know about this day in Germany?

Any special suggestions what places I should avoid?

Or nothing really happens in spite of Hitler's birthday?

Dedalus
04-11-12, 15:33
Gents, is there anything I should know about this day in Germany?

Any special suggestions what places I should avoid?

Or nothing really happens in spite of Hitler's birthday?Dude, you've got to be kidding.

Have you even spent any time in Germany or with some of it's citizens? Read the German press or followed European affairs? Something tells me that if the answer were "yes" that you would realize how silly the question is.

However you might find citywide demonstrations against nuclear power, animal rights demonstrators, anti-war protests, the Occupy Frankfurt movement. You might even find some demonstrations against the radical right wingers.

Have fun,

Dedalus

Hessen Bub
04-11-12, 16:05
Gents, is there anything I should know about this day in Germany?

Any special suggestions what places I should avoid?

Or nothing really happens in spite of Hitler's birthday?Are you trying to be funny? Or are you just stupid?

HB

Optimist
04-11-12, 16:41
Jymondor.

I don't understand what your post was trying to say. Perhaps you can explain?

At the moment the post seems to be possibly offensive to German people. Was this your intent?

If this was the case all I will say is that I get sick of infantile comments about the German nation by people who know nothing about Germany and who live in countries where the public discourse is crude, racist, and populist, compared to that in Germany.

Breadman
04-11-12, 16:44
Lets let it slide, two comments was enough.

Italia77
04-11-12, 19:55
Hello,

I need a suggestion.

I will arrive to Charleroi Airport on Friday morning June 8th,

And then I will move by car rental to Dusseldorf, after this I will go to visit Acapulco that will close at 3am,

Saturday I will visit Pauschalclub Bochum or Muenster, depends on the girls present,

But for Sunday I don't know which club to choose:

- I need a place to stay even for the night, because.

I will have my return flight from Charleroi Airport at 8am Monday morning,

And I didn't reserve an hotel night before the coming back flight,

Do you know a nice fkk / club close to Dusseldorf, that at Sunday night close after 1am?

Thank you, I really appreciate!

Creature2
04-11-12, 23:39
Hello,

I need a suggestion.

I will arrive to Charleroi Airport on Friday morning June 8th,

And then I will move by car rental to Dusseldorf, after this I will go to visit Acapulco that will close at 3am,

Saturday I will visit Pauschalclub Bochum or Muenster, depends on the girls present,

But for Sunday I don't know which club to choose:

- I need a place to stay even for the night, because.

I will have my return flight from Charleroi Airport at 8am Monday morning,

And I didn't reserve an hotel night before the coming back flight,

Do you know a nice fkk / club close to Dusseldorf, that at Sunday night close after 1am?

Thank you, I really appreciate!Acapulco, Dolce Vita and Penelope, all are open till 3 am on Sundays.

Csalty
04-12-12, 10:22
Hi all, I have a few questions for which FKK to visit. First off, a little about me. I have been reading this board for a couple years, but have never posted. I have some experience with mongering; escorts in the States, Korean RLD and An-ma (awesome experience!) , and a couple FKKs (Finca Erotica and Dolce Vita D-Dorf). This time around I will be taking a friend with me for his first FKK experience. His experience is limited to RLD Amsterdam.

For his first experience, I was thinking World or Mainhattan based on reviews. I don't know how he would deal with upselling and such. I may be wrong (and please correct me if I am) but the reviews I have read of Palace or Oase there is upselling by the girls.

This is what I am looking for essentially:

DFK included. I don't mind making sure with the girl before session, but definitely do not want it to be extra. Also, I understand not all girls will offer this, so which FKK would be best to get the service?

Girls walking around naked. Pretty sure from reviews they walk around naked, but I could be wrong.

We are planning on going either Friday or Saturday, so I expect any FKK to be busy and we may have to wait for a room. In your guys' experience, which do you think would be better in that regard?

Selection of girls. From what I have read, this really shouldn't be a problem, both locations have excellent selections. But which FKK offers the widest selection of different types; e. G, body size, hair color, nationality, etc?

Don't mind driving (1. 5.2 hours) as World is further away for us. We just don't want to drive too long since we plan on staying late and returning the same night. I would rather go to a NRW club, but driving from where we are now would be too long. I am open to suggestions as well if someone feels I am not making a good choice here. Also, I feel I need to check a Hessen club off my list.

For my friend, since this is his first FKK, what does everyone think?

Thanks

Italia77
04-12-12, 13:43
Acapulco, Dolce Vita and Penelope, all are open till 3 am on Sundays.Hey Mr Creature, how are U?

I've seen on the ACAPULCO site this:

42551 Velbert. Harkortstr. 3 | Daily from 10 h. 01 h / Fri-Sat. 10 h. 03 h |

It sounds like Sunday is at 1am, closing time.

Am I right?

Tjohoo
04-12-12, 16:41
I've seen on the ACAPULCO site this:

42551 Velbert. Harkortstr. 3 | Daily from 10 h. 01 h / Fri-Sat. 10 h. 03 h |

It sounds like Sunday is at 1am, closing time.

Am I right?Hello!

Acapulco homepage in german:



Neue öffnungzeiten:

Täglich von: 10-03 uhr.

Fr Sa: 10-05 uhr.



T

Creature2
04-12-12, 18:58
Hey Mr Creature, how are U?

I've seen on the ACAPULCO site this:

42551 Velbert. Harkortstr. 3 | Daily from 10 h. 01 h / Fri-Sat. 10 h. 03 h |

It sounds like Sunday is at 1am, closing time.

Am I right?

Hi Italia,
This was correct but till back two months ago.

Nowadays, they changed it. The new opening times of Acapulco is till 3 am weekdays, and 5 am Friday and Saturday.

Have fun.

C2

CoupleAwesome
04-13-12, 11:33
Friends. Am getting ready for my trip. Something in works for past 3 years and hence v excited. You helped me with many answers that should help my trip go smooth as I hardly know a single german word.

I know that Frankfurt Airport has rooms to store luggage, do you know if Frankfurt Central Train station also has the same feature?

Also, how is the weather usually like the first week of May?

Thanks

Hessen Bub
04-13-12, 22:46
Yes, at Hauptbahnhof you can also store your luggage.

http://www.bahnhof.de/site/bahnhoefe/de/sued/frankfurt__hbf/service/gepaeck/gepaeck__.html

Weather should bein the twenties (Celsius) , but in Germany you never know.

HB

CaptRenno
04-14-12, 04:13
Hello,

I am Planning a hobby weekend at an FKK April 29-May 1st. I just found out that Monday May 1st is a Holiday in most of Europe. I would like to know if there is a chance that everything may be closed or if not closed, may the FKK be scarce of beautiful woman because they are traveling home for the holiday weekend.I don't think that any big FKK will close anytime during the 4-day May 1 weekend. They almost never close. I'm not sure, but they probably only close on Christmas and New Year's Day.

The time that I went to Oase in 2010 was the night before Corpus Christi, a legal holiday celebrated in the predominately Catholic parts of Germany (where most of the FKKs are found) : Baden Wuerttemberg, Bavaria, Hesse, Northrhine Westphalia, Rhineland Palatinate, and Saarland. I didn't know about the holiday until the next day, the day of the actual holiday (I'm Catholic and I had never even heard of this holy day). But Oase was going strong that night-there were lots of girls and clients.

However, the next day, on the night of Corpus Christi, I found myself somewhere not far from Bernd's. I wanted to go there, but I didn't have the address and I didn't know how to get there. Later, I was told that the club was closed that night because of the holiday. So Bernd's, which is always closed on the weekend, might be closed Monday and Tuesday of the labor day weekend.

Horbate
04-14-12, 05:51
[QUOTE=CoupleAwesome; 1268562]I know that Frankfurt Airport has rooms to store luggage, do you know if Frankfurt Central Train station also has the same feature?

CoupleAwesome-

Here is where I store my luggage temporarily at the HBF. As you are looking out into the train sheds toward the glassed in end where the trains enter and leave, the storage lockers I use are at the extreme right end. Find an open empty one, put yours stuff inside, close the door, drop coins in the slot, and turn the removable key and take it with you. I always take a digital photo of my locker number to remember it.

Horbate

Dedalus
04-14-12, 10:07
[QUOTE=CoupleAwesome; 1268562]I know that Frankfurt Airport has rooms to store luggage, do you know if Frankfurt Central Train station also has the same feature?

CoupleAwesome-

Here is where I store my luggage temporarily at the HBF. As you are looking out into the train sheds toward the glassed in end where the trains enter and leave, the storage lockers I use are at the extreme right end. Find an open empty one, put yours stuff inside, close the door, drop coins in the slot, and turn the removable key and take it with you. I always take a digital photo of my locker number to remember it.

HorbateThere are also two locker areas (one close to the main entrance, and one right after the "Presse & Buch" shop across from tracks 18 and 19.) The ones in Horbate's pic and the ones near the Press und Buch shop cost less than the ones near the entrance.

Cheers,

Dedalus

CoupleAwesome
04-14-12, 12:39
Thanks Dude, the information both of you provided is extremely helpfull. Along with the info you gave raises one another question- I seacrhed google to find any info but the 2 websites I came across are in German and hence I am again relying on my friends here!

Do you know the approximate costs for storage? Also does these storage places have enough room to carry 1 big suitcase (the typical 32" big one that we use for international travel)

I see from your reply that we have to drop coins. Does that mean that I have to carry coins? Never thought about that until I saw your message.

Was planning on credit cards, if they donthave that option I might be in trouble! Will wait for your replies. At the end I might store the luggage in Frankfurt International airport and then take train from there to Freidschorf station. Not sure Frankfurt airport has more payment options?

Thank you everyone.




[QUOTE=Horbate; 1268820]There are also two locker areas (one close to the main entrance, and one right after the "Presse & Buch" shop across from tracks 18 and 19.) The ones in Horbate's pic and the ones near the Press und Buch shop cost less than the ones near the entrance.

Cheers,

Dedalus

King Kong Five
04-14-12, 14:01
I recently visited Artemis in Berlin, and really enjoyed working out in the gym in between the sessions with the ladies. In fact, my visit would not have been as enjoyable without the gym. Even drinking cola and chit-chatting with naked ladies get boring after a while. =) So my question is: are there other major FKK clubs in Germany with a gym / fitness area? (Yes, I've tried to search the forum, but "gym" is not searchable and "fitness" brings to many unrelated posts.)

Hessen Bub
04-14-12, 18:08
Cost you can take from the link I posted:

http://www.bahnhof.de/site/bahnhoefe/de/sued/frankfurt__hbf/service/gepaeck/gepaeck__.html

Only 50Cent. 1€ and 2€ coins accepted, no change given.

HB

Free Dude
04-14-12, 18:27
I recently visited Artemis in Berlin, and really enjoyed working out in the gym in between the sessions with the ladies. In fact, my visit would not have been as enjoyable without the gym. Even drinking cola and chit-chatting with naked ladies get boring after a while. =) So my question is: are there other major FKK clubs in Germany with a gym / fitness area? (Yes, I've tried to search the forum, but "gym" is not searchable and "fitness" brings to many unrelated posts.)The only other gym I've seen is in Freude (Bochum). I've never seen anyone use it and it's probably just a treadmill and a stairmaster, so don't expect a 'full' exercise to be possible.

Jymondor
04-14-12, 18:46
Guys, I am planning to spend Saturday in ACA. Cannot decide what club is good to visit on Sunday. Distance from Velbert is not an issue. I will drive a rental car. What clubs in NRW should be avoided Sundays and what are recommended that days?

For example I read here that Villa Vertigo is not a good choice for Sunday because lots of mongers use free entry that they gain visiting VV any weekday. So, I am looking for some info like that.

Thanks.

JYM

Capt Dan
04-14-12, 19:19
Guys, I am planning to spend Saturday in ACA. Cannot decide what club is good to visit on Sunday. Distance from Velbert is not an issue. I will drive a rental car. What clubs in NRW should be avoided Sundays and what are recommended that days?

For example I read here that Villa Vertigo is not a good choice for Sunday because lots of mongers use free entry that they gain visiting VV any weekday. So, I am looking for some info like that.

Thanks.

JYMHmmmm.... I guess to each their own. I personally would prefer to visit Villa Vertigo on Saturday and then get free entry again on Sunday! VV is a large club (particularly when the garden is in play) and is not usually all that busy on Sunday even if some do turn up for free entry. Personally the ladies and the ambiance of Villa Vertigo appeal to me more. Despite a reasonably good line up, I would not be inclined to visit ACA in the first place. But that's just me and everyone is different!