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I see from your reply that we have to drop coins. Does that mean that I have to carry coins? Never thought about that until I saw your message.
Was planning on credit cards, if they donthave that option I might be in trouble! Will wait for your replies.Draw some Euros out of an ATM at Frankfurt Airport using your bank card.
Buy a coffee and a doughnut at the airport, handover one of your new Euro notes, get your coffee, doughnut and hopefully some Euro coins in change.
Draw some Euros out of an ATM at Frankfurt Airport using your bank card.
Buy a coffee and a doughnut at the airport, handover one of your new Euro notes, get your coffee, doughnut and hopefully some Euro coins in change.Even buying that first cup of coffee can occasionally be a problem when I first come into a new country and don't have any small change, in the local currency, from the country that I have just entered. Of course, as soon as I get off the plane or train, I head for the closest bank machine. But, if I withdraw a large amount of money, to get me started, the machines will frequently kick out all large denomination bills. People don't have a 'sense of humor' about selling you anything that is cheap, when all you have is 50's. 100's or larger notes. And, the limited banking hours do not always coincide with my entry into a new country, where I could go in and ask for smaller bills. Wait 'til you see the look on the lady's face that takes your money at the entrance to a WC, when you have to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) so bad you can taste it, and the smallest change you have is the same amount that you are going to pay for a session at an FKK! It's happened to me before, and you probably won't get in. And some of those old gals take those jobs real seriously, and may be prepared to kick your ass if you still think you are still going to use the pissoir!
So, I really did have a point, at the beginning, of what I've learned to do, to help create small change. When I go to the bank machine, now, instead of withdrawing the maximum I can withdraw for the day, I'll withdraw a larger amount, at first, but, when the machines asks if I want to make another transaction, I go back in over and over, and ask for the minimum amount dispensable (usually 5's or 10s). That way, I start my trip, with a billfold containing a full range of bills, and I still only get charged for a single ATM fee.
Now, I can go get my coffee, store my luggage, buy my tickets, pay for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) (get coins before you dare take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)) , and go get laid!
Horbate
Hessen Bub
04-15-12, 08:51
German ATMs will give you 5, 10 and 20€ bills even if you withdraw larger amounts (if they did not run out). There also is an option to chose what kind of bills you want.
HB
BikerDiver34
04-15-12, 18:59
Hi folks,
As far as I know the 1st of May is a national holiday in Germany. I was planning to visit NRW in that period, can you mongers tell me how is the scene in FKKs during that period? Are they deserted for vacations or contrary are they more crowded than usual?
Thanks,
BD
Hi folks,
As far as I know the 1st of May is a national holiday in Germany. I was planning to visit NRW in that period, can you mongers tell me how is the scene in FKKs during that period? Are they deserted for vacations or contrary are they more crowded than usual?
Thanks,
BDSee here for FKK's in Frankfurt.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1260725&viewfull=1#post1260725
There is a big messe in the NRW area shortly after the first of May however.
Now, I can go get my coffee, store my luggage, buy my tickets, pay for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) (get coins before you dare take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)) , and go get laid!
HorbateExcellent advice Horbate.
For those visiting Germany for the first time though I should point out, thankfully the toilets at all German airports I have used have been free of charge.
Hi folks,
As far as I know the 1st of May is a national holiday in Germany. I was planning to visit NRW in that period, can you mongers tell me how is the scene in FKKs during that period? Are they deserted for vacations or contrary are they more crowded than usual?
Thanks,
BDFrom my experience the NRW clubs at that time will be well attended, especially those clubs on the Dutch / German border area.
Another point to note is that many NRW sauna clubs will open at 1pm on national holidays.
Brazil Specialist
04-20-12, 02:10
Planning to go to Germany in June. I have to do some business in Munich, but have lots of time free to travel.
I want to check out a few FKK and am looking for recommendations:
I like girls young (not much over 18) and with hard great bodies with nice natural boobs. Want to see them naked (in Rio they dress too much) so I can make informed decisions when choosing a girl. Most of the time I will travel with public transport. Yes, some taxi rides are acceptable if the place is worth it.
What places are recommended? Ideally several FKK nearby, or one that is so good and big that it is worth a trip. Ideally with cheap lodging nearby or are there some that allow overnight stays at good prices?
If in doubt I would probably pick Frankfurt and Berlin.
Any hints also as to what sim card to get for good internet service for a few weeks? Any special train tickets worth getting? Anyone wants to join or play guide? Yes I do speak German.
I am willing to do my homework and to read, but I would like to have some guidance as to where to start.
Hi,
I am hoping to visit NRW for a couple days in early May. I am wondering if any members might be able to comment on which clubs I could expect to find the greatest ethnic diversity of women at? I am particularly interested in african and middle eastern (do they exist?) ladies.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Angus Magee
04-20-12, 10:55
If in doubt I would probably pick Frankfurt and Berlin.Berlin's Artemis is very easy to reach by public transport but it is the only choice in Berlin for FKK. Berlin does have plenty of other pay sex venues in the form of bordellos, small clubs, kinos etc.
Frankfurt has at least 3 FKK easily accessible by transport, Palace, Mainhatten and, a little more out of the way but very doable, Oase. You can also visit World using Public transport but it is a little more out of the way still than Oase.
AM
If I wanted
girls young (not much over 18) and with hard great bodies with nice natural boobs. Want to see them nakedI would at the moment personally go to World in Giessen. Fits the bill on all counts.
But 1) things change. 2) it's possible (read thread) but not the easiest to get to by public transport.
Any of the bigger Hessen clubs will have a selection of more or less naked girls which fits the bill of all but the pickiest.
Hessen Bub
04-21-12, 10:26
I'd prefer Oase over World. Look for Jasmina (Micky) from Romania. 183cm, slim firm hardbody, great natural tits, does CIM, anal, DFK. Be careful, she's a pro and will try to sell you her full service, but it's worth it.
HB
I'm lucky enough to have a connecting flight via Frankfurt next week and decided to have a 24 hour stopover. Fly in and out of Frankfurt Main Am Airport.
Visited once before in 2006 and ended up at FKK Oase which was fantastic (rated it higher than FKK Artemis in Berlin which I visited a year later) and am planning to do the same again this time. Last time was unfortunately just a fleeting visit but planning to hole myself up until closing (or until I'm completely drained) with a thousand Euros to burn slowly.
Have a few qtns for more recent visitors:
1. Re hotel. Guess as I'm flying in and out from the same Airport and am only there for 1 day it makes no difference if I get a Hotel near the Airport. But if I decide otherwise, what is the nearest hotel to FKK Oase (not that I'll be spending much time at the hotel)
2. Last time, I was staying in or near the City Centre. The cab ride there and back cost E100. How much would a cab from the Airport roughly cost? Is there an alternative way of getting there from the Airport eg a train or a tram?
3. Also what is the pricing structure beyond the entry fee. Last time I was there I paid 100 Euros for 30 mins which included RO, OWO and CIM. How much does a basic 30 mins with OWO and full sex cost? Is OWO included in basic or does it cost extra?
4. Finally, and probably most importantly, is it still the best FKK in Frankfurt? I know of FKK Palace which is in the City but got the impression from old threads that FKK Oase was generally superior in terms of quality of girls and service.
Would welcome your tips / opinions / thoughts on the above and promise to leave a report of my exploits.
but got the impression from old threads that FKK Oase was generally superior in terms of quality of girls and service.How well did you read the old threads? These questions have already been answered many times.
How well did you read the old threads? These questions have already been answered many times.The last 5-10 pages of this, the Oase and Palace threads but other than transport issues don't have the sense of which one is the better in terms of quality of girls and service so any guidance appreciated.
Alot depends on what day your layover is on. Reports say sharks has a great lineup right now and sharks is much closer to the airport. Find a hotel near sharks that offers a shuttle to the airport.
The last 5-10 pages of this, the Oase and Palace threads but other than transport issues don't have the sense of which one is the better in terms of quality of girls and service so any guidance appreciated.What do YOU like? Do you like the same as ME?
How do you know this?
Some like big asses, others just a handful;
Some like silicone in the boobs, others like no silicone, maybe even A / B's;
Some like aggressive PSE, others GFE.
It's hard. The way the Good Things Are Supposed To Be.
Myr.
Better Things...through Chemistry lol.
The last 5-10 pages of this, the Oase and Palace threads but other than transport issues don't have the sense of which one is the better in terms of quality of girls and service so any guidance appreciated.For me if I had only one day I would go to Oase.
UShobbyist
04-21-12, 21:22
I'm lucky enough to have a connecting flight via Frankfurt next week and decided to have a 24 hour stopover. Fly in and out of Frankfurt Main Am Airport.
Visited once before in 2006 and ended up at FKK Oase which was fantastic (rated it higher than FKK Artemis in Berlin which I visited a year later) and am planning to do the same again this time. Last time was unfortunately just a fleeting visit but planning to hole myself up until closing (or until I'm completely drained) with a thousand Euros to burn slowly.
Have a few qtns for more recent visitors:
1. Re hotel. Guess as I'm flying in and out from the same Airport and am only there for 1 day it makes no difference if I get a Hotel near the Airport. But if I decide otherwise, what is the nearest hotel to FKK Oase (not that I'll be spending much time at the hotel)
2. Last time, I was staying in or near the City Centre. The cab ride there and back cost E100. How much would a cab from the Airport roughly cost? Is there an alternative way of getting there from the Airport eg a train or a tram?
3. Also what is the pricing structure beyond the entry fee. Last time I was there I paid 100 Euros for 30 mins which included RO, OWO and CIM. How much does a basic 30 mins with OWO and full sex cost? Is OWO included in basic or does it cost extra?
4. Finally, and probably most importantly, is it still the best FKK in Frankfurt? I know of FKK Palace which is in the City but got the impression from old threads that FKK Oase was generally superior in terms of quality of girls and service.
Would welcome your tips / opinions / thoughts on the above and promise to leave a report of my exploits.I am a FKK beginner myself. Based on the info I gathered, I have the following suggestion. IMHO, you don't need to stay at any hotel in Frankfurt. You spend all your time in FKK Oase until 5AM the next morning. I called Oase and talked to the manager. She said the customer could put his baggage in the front desk when the customer had good time in FKK Oase.
I am hoping to visit NRW for a couple days in early May. I am wondering if any members might be able to comment on which clubs I could expect to find the greatest ethnic diversity of women at? I am particularly interested in african and middle eastern (do they exist?) ladies.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.In my experience, this would be Golden Time. There have been Thai, Chinese, Korean, Ghanian, Turkish, girls from the Asian CIS states, Dominican Republic girls there.
I called Oase and talked to the manager. She said the customer could put his baggage in the front desk when the customer had good time in FKK Oase.And if the customer did NOT have a good time in FKK Oase? Where does he leave his baggage then? Under the left urinal?
. I called Oase and talked to the manager. She said the customer could put his baggage in the front desk when the customer had good time in FKK Oase.Are you sure it was the manager? You might have gotten their call center in India.
Anybody tried this one? I have not seen any posts on this and was wondering what type of club this is. Partytreff or Swingers club or both? I saw swingers referenced on the web site, but also GB nights. Was wondering if anyone could fill in with details.
Ciao all!
I'll be on a short fkk tour with a friend, starting Saturday.
We will start in Stuttgart then Berlin and back to Frankfurt.
Depending on the weather we might skip Berlin and stay 3 days in the Frankfurt area. My friend doesn't like Oase so we will go to Palace and Mainhattan. On the third day I thought Sharks could be an option. I guess prices will be in the same range and reading some reports it looks like the place is kind of similar to Art, Palace and the big ones. Am I wrong?
By "similar" I mean a place with quality facilities where you can hang around for many hours, grab a girl every now and then (possibly a young optiflick) and relax in a comfortable setup.
No rain, no rain, no rain. (Was that Live Rust?)
Ciao!
Kimino
Yes Kimino, in my oppinion FKK Sharks is now a premier league club as much as FKK Mainhattan and FKK Palace. However, I would caution that the club has only recently reached this level (within the last six to eight months) and it needs to maintain this level for another period of time before it can be recommended without hesitation (just like FKK World or FKK Oase). Certainly the facilities which FKK Sharks offers are second to none and the food is reasonably good (certainly better than FKK Oase) whilst not on the same culinary level as perhaps Palace or Mainhattan. IMO the line up is not on the same quantity / quality level as World or Oase. But it is not far behind particularly at the weekend!
CD
By "similar" I mean a place with quality facilities where you can hang around for many hours, grab a girl every now and then (possibly a young optiflick) and relax in a comfortable setup.On those criteria I think you will be very impressed by Sharks. The only slight reservation I have about the place is the service level of the providers, which is perhaps not on average what it is at Oase, for example. Read the forums to pick out who is good and who is not so good, and be critical when interviewing. I am sure you'll have a great time.
[font=tahoma]Yes Kimino, in my oppinion FKK Sharks is now a premier league club as much as FKK Mainhattan and FKK Palace.Same question but about Mainhattan. In May I will have one Monday layoff in FRA but do not feel like going to Oase on public transportation. Last time I had stopover in Palace good number of girls asked 50 Eur extra for kissing. I did not like that at all.
How is Mainhattan compared to Palace and Oase? Is it worth spending all day in there or should I live with Palace oversells or get car rental and get to Oase?
Thanks.
H
Nille Copenhagen
04-23-12, 17:05
Last time I had stopover in Palace good number of girls asked 50 Eur extra for kissing. I did not like that at all.I've never paid extra for kissing or DATY at Palace, who are these girls asking 50€ for kissing?
CD and Toscana, thanks for the info.
We will see what happens and I'll report on the visits. Think it's a good occasion to tour the clubs in Frankfurt after a couple of years and the weather forecast is not getting any better.
Ciao.
Kimino
In May I will have one Monday layoff in FRA. Last time I had stopover in Palace good number of girls asked 50 Eur extra for kissing. I did not like that at all.
How is Mainhattan compared to Palace and Oase? Is it worth spending all day in there or should I live with Palace oversells or get car rental and get to Oase?Hedonian, of the three clubs that you mention (Mainhattan, Palace & Oase) , the latter will almost definitely have the strongest line-up on Monday. Of course if you plan on spending the day in the club, the facilities and cuisine in FKK Oase are generally of a much lower standard than either Mainhattan or Palace. However, we don't visit the FKK with good food and a nice sauna as the main priority :)
With regards to FKK Palace and the extra charges. I would just ignore any hooker on the up-sell and concentrate on the girls offering a fair price with decent service. You should be able to find this more reasonable attitude in Palace on Monday?!? However, if I were you, I would probably rent the car and visit FKK Oase. Besides, if the weather is pleasant, the garden in Oase is a nice place to be (provided the construction work is not a nuisance!). Hope this helps. Enjoy the trip whatever you decide!
CD
World usually holds their spring party on the last Saturday in may. Any idea if other clubs will be holding parties? If so, any dates set yet?
World usually holds their spring party on the last Saturday in may. Any idea if other clubs will be holding parties? If so, any dates set yet?I was looking at Sharks site yesterday and they say something about a party on the 28th of April.
I couldn't understand what kind of party though.
Ciao.
Kimino
Hessen Bub
04-24-12, 22:24
Spring Party at Sharks on April 28. Same day Oase opens the new garden with a party.
HB
The only World party on the event calendar is the 'birthday party' on June 2nd.
I've never paid extra for kissing or DATY at Palace, who are these girls asking 50€ for kissing?I have heard of some girls at Palace adding on extras, I think you'll find It's not written in stone, because so many businessmen / tourists that are uneducated about saunaclubs visit Palace, then some of these hustlers try it on.
Nille Copenhagen
04-25-12, 20:35
I have heard of some girls at Palace adding on extras, I think you'll find It's not written in stone, because so many businessmen / tourists that are uneducated about saunaclubs visit Palace, then some of these hustlers try it on.That's my point too may tourists, the girls try to get away with charging extra on novice guys.
IrishLad81
04-25-12, 21:37
Hi,
Just had a look though the galleries below from a FKK in Vienna and before I travel to either Vienna or Franfurt can someone tell me that has visited them is the lineup at Palace, OASE, World and Mainhatten better, similar or not as good.
http://www.fun-palast.at/gallery2/main.php?g2_page=1
I spent some wonderful days and nights at Artemis last year, and I'm going to be going to Germany in a couple of weeks. I was hoping for advice on whether I should return for the "sure thing" or choose another city for FKK mongering. The sole purpose of visiting my chosen location is to monger.
Any suggestions are welcomed.
Has anyone visited Planet Eden club? It's a new club just outside Dueren, couldn't find anything written here about the club, from their site looks like great facillities, they have a party on 18-5 and 19-5 with Pornstars, I'm guessing they will be going zimmer with mongers. http://www.planet-eden.de/fkk-home
Has anyone visited Planet Eden club? It's a new club just outside Dueren, couldn't find anything written here about the club, from their site looks like great facillities, they have a party on 18-5 and 19-5 with Pornstars, I'm guessing they will be going zimmer with mongers.
http://www.planet-eden.de/fkk-homeNot that new, it used to be just FKK Planet and started out with the same owners as world. I've never been, but it's supposed to be a very large and nice club (also a nice garden) with good facilities, as long as everything is working. The line up can be a bit hit or miss, and given the size of the club there are few girls.
I've heard the parties are nice; pornstars will not be available for sex, unless a gangbang is mentioned (I know they have done this previously at Planet). If it just says 'pornstar shows', you're probably only going to get shows. One of them (Dirty Tracy) was at the Easter Party in World and only gave some shows.
Treble Machine
04-26-12, 15:16
I spent some wonderful days and nights at Artemis last year, and I'm going to be going to Germany in a couple of weeks. I was hoping for advice on whether I should return for the "sure thing" or choose another city for FKK mongering. The sole purpose of visiting my chosen location is to monger.
Any suggestions are welcomed.What kind of transportation you will rely on?
The Frankfurt area has lots of FKK clubs well worth your visit.
Not that new, it used to be just FKK Planet and started out with the same owners as world. I've never been, but it's supposed to be a very large and nice club (also a nice garden) with good facilities, as long as everything is working. The line up can be a bit hit or miss, and given the size of the club there are few girls.
I've heard the parties are nice; pornstars will not be available for sex, unless a gangbang is mentioned (I know they have done this previously at Planet). If it just says 'pornstar shows', you're probably only going to get shows. One of them (Dirty Tracy) was at the Easter Party in World and only gave some shows.So when they say shows, they will just be stripping and teasing? That Black Diamond would get €50 of me!
UShobbyist
04-26-12, 18:01
Hi,
Just had a look though the galleries below from a FKK in Vienna and before I travel to either Vienna or Franfurt can someone tell me that has visited them is the lineup at Palace, OASE, World and Mainhatten better, similar or not as good.
http://www.fun-palast.at/gallery2/main.php?g2_page=1I looked at those photo pictures in your galleries and found out that those girls were not totally nude. When you go to FKK Oase or FKK Mainhattan, you will see all the girls are totally nude.
IrishLad81
04-26-12, 20:01
I looked at those photo pictures in your galleries and found out that those girls were not totally nude. When you go to FKK Oase or FKK Mainhattan, you will see all the girls are totally nude.Thanks UShobbyist, but are they better looking?
Hi,
Just had a look though the galleries below from a FKK in Vienna and before I travel to either Vienna or Franfurt can someone tell me that has visited them is the lineup at Palace, OASE, World and Mainhatten better, similar or not as good.
http://www.fun-palast.at/gallery2/main.php?g2_page=1From what I've been told (all second hand) is that there isn't as many girls at the Vienna clubs and the prices are higher. Then again, you ask this in the Vienna section and the locals will rave about their clubs. I'd suggest you try Frankfurt first.
UShobbyist
04-27-12, 20:15
Thanks UShobbyist, but are they better looking?Both FKK Oase and FKK Mainhattan have beautiful girls. Because all the girls are in their birthday suit, what you see is what you get. You should go to FKK Oase first and see for yourself.
CoupleAwesome
04-27-12, 22:46
Guys. My next trip might be through Munich, anyone knows if that place has FFK clubs or similar ones? I might have around 4- 6 hrs in transit between flights.
So even if there is a club that should be accessible from the airport or else my plans will not work.
Just trying to make sure that I plan my trip accordingly, if not I will route through Frankfurt.
Thanks for your tips.
Smoky Jack
04-27-12, 23:01
Hi Gang- I will be heading to Berlin and Frankfurt this summer for biz and fun. I have to spend 4 days in Berlin, so obviously Artemis is on my to-do list. I will also stay in Frankfurt for 3-5 nights. I have some questions for my esteemed mongers.
1) how many days would you allocate to Berlin vs Frankfurt? Should I spend as much time as possible in Frankfurt, given the multiple FKK's there? Artemis appears to be the main show in Berlin.
2) is it worth venturing outside FKK? Private escorts? Bordellos? Partyreff? I am leaning toward sticking to FKK, given the insanely great setup of FKKs.
3) where would you stay in Frankfurt? I can stay anywhere, but my main interest in Frankfurt are the FKKs there. Is the Red Light district worth visiting?
Thanks for the advice!
Guys. My next trip might be through Munich, anyone knows if that place has FFK clubs or similar ones? I might have around 4- 6 hrs in transit between flights.
So even if there is a club that should be accessible from the airport or else my plans will not work.
Just trying to make sure that I plan my trip accordingly, if not I will route through Frankfurt.
Thanks for your tips.Easy one. Route through Frankfurt.
Hi Gang- I will be heading to Berlin and Frankfurt this summer for biz and fun. I have to spend 4 days in Berlin, so obviously Artemis is on my to-do list. I will also stay in Frankfurt for 3-5 nights. I have some questions for my esteemed mongers.
1) how many days would you allocate to Berlin vs Frankfurt? Should I spend as much time as possible in Frankfurt, given the multiple FKK's there? Artemis appears to be the main show in Berlin.
2) is it worth venturing outside FKK? Private escorts? Bordellos? Partyreff? I am leaning toward sticking to FKK, given the insanely great setup of FKKs.
3) where would you stay in Frankfurt? I can stay anywhere, but my main interest in Frankfurt are the FKKs there. Is the Red Light district worth visiting?
Thanks for the advice!1) I do not really understand this question. You seem to have decided how long you will be staying each city. I like Artemis, but I would opt for the Frankfurt area every time. So, get over there as soon as you can, I would say.
2) In Berlin, yes. Artemis is fine, but there are also fine brothels. This is also the opinion of knowledgeable members living in Berlin. There is good opinion on this in the Berlin section of the forum.
3) Others can help you better here.
Smoky Jack
04-29-12, 05:09
1) I do not really understand this question. You seem to have decided how long you will be staying each city. I like Artemis, but I would opt for the Frankfurt area every time. So, get over there as soon as you can, I would say.
2) In Berlin, yes. Artemis is fine, but there are also fine brothels. This is also the opinion of knowledgeable members living in Berlin. There is good opinion on this in the Berlin section of the forum.
3) Others can help you better here.Thanks to both. I have a minimum of four days in Berlin, was wondering if I should stay longer. Sounds like Frankfurt for 5. My dick is going to be sore.
What kind of transportation you will rely on?
The Frankfurt area has lots of FKK clubs well worth your visit.More than likely, I will simply be catching a flight from London and getting a taxi to a hotel. I can rent a car if it helps to improve the overall menu. Are the Frankfort clubs of which you are speaking within taxi ride distance?
HungryStud101
04-30-12, 03:54
Since Monday is a holiday where is the best place to go in the Frankfurt area. I was considering Sharks. Amy opinions?
Hessen Bub
04-30-12, 07:56
Which Monday? Today is no holiday. Whitsun? Doesn't have any impact on the line-up.
Weather is good today. So Oase, World or Sharks.
HB
HungryStud101
04-30-12, 11:47
Which Monday? Today is no holiday. Whitsun? Doesn't have any impact on the line-up.
Weather is good today. So Oase, World or Sharks.
HBToday is not a holiday? I thought all of Europe was off work today for something like May day or Arbor day? WTF. OK Well who will have the most girls? I want to post-up in the middle of this? Oase, World, or Sharks?
Angus Magee
04-30-12, 11:51
Today is not a holiday? I thought all of Europe was off work today for something like May day or Arbor day? WTF. OK Well who will have the most girls? I want to post-up in the middle of this? Oase, World, or Sharks?May 1st is a holiday and many people (at least those I know) have been give, or taken, today off as well. As far as I know most FKK would be open on May 1st, though likely Bernds is closed.
AM
Today is no holiday.
Weather is good today. So Oase, World or Sharks.
HBToday is a public Holiday (but not in Gemany : ). Indeed that is tomorrow May 1. This evening many clubs in NRW will have "Tanz in den Mai" party, Samya, PHG, by Night, Bernds, FKK-Magnum (great club was there Friday and was impressed by the ambiente/HW) just to mention a few.
Now the weather is fine but it seems tonight in the evening we will have some rain.
B30
Are the Frankfort clubs of which you are speaking within taxi ride distance?Mainhatten and Palace can easily be done by public transport or taxi as they are both within FFM. If you choose public transport then use the bahn. De website (there is an English version). World and Oase get to be very expensive if you want to use a taxi (I don't know the actual price but if you think it through World is 50 miles from FFM so it's a 100 mile roundtrip).
World and Oase can easily be done by public transport (maybe with taxis for the last legs if you want to save time. The details of these journeys have been given many many times but they get lost in the forum threads so I suggest go to bahn. De.
Then look in the Oase thread for details of any taxi options for the last leg of that journey.
If you go by train to World you have a 40 minute train journey followed either by a 30 minute bus journey plus a 15 minute walk, or by a 20 minute taxi journey costing under 20 Euros.
Remember that many of us have discovered these trips for ourselves over the years so you should have no problems in getting what you want
Forcharles
05-03-12, 23:12
I plan to be in Germany to visit the following FKK clubs:
Bernds. Yes.
World.
Palace.
Freude39. Yes.
Oase.
Sharks.
Park Sauna Residenz.
Which one gives free or discounted entrance fees on your birthday?
I plan to be in Germany to visit the following FKK clubs:
Bernds. Yes.
Which one gives free or discounted entrance fees on your birthday?Went to Bernd's last year on my be day, showed passport, no biggee, they didn't write anything, just confirmed YOB while I held my thumb over my name.
Had a lot of fun. Got in free, so paid half of wingman's entrance.
Myr.
(Damned auto-correct is getting tiring)
I plan to be in Germany to visit the following FKK clubs: Which one gives free or discounted entrance fees on your birthday?
Bernds. Yes.
World.
Palace.
Freude39. Yes.
Oase.
Sharks.
Park Sauna Residenz.To the best of my knowledge, the birthday treat clubs with free entry are:
Bernds, Yin Yang, Atlantik in Hanau. Freude39 not sure.
In Bernds entry was straightforward. In Yin Yang and Atlantik they wanted to take a photocopy of my passport for their accounts.
Have a good Birthday,
PL
Its not often I ask a question, but someone may know an answer to this.
If I am particularly jaded, or shagged out, I sometimes enjoy a little "slap and tickle" or more. This may sound strange, but eventually I get bored with screwing yet another mass-produced beautiful perfect bodied young girl.
I know Germany is full of FKKs, PTs and SM studios, but the SM studios in my experience are a single session type establishment. In Switzerland FKK Inges Palace has a dungeon, and I recall PC Bochum has some play areas left over from its swingerclub days.
Does anyone know of a multi-session type club where you can spend a prolonged visit but that caters for some kinky stuff as well. I know that some of the more mature ladies in the FKK / saunaclub circuit cater for this and have their regulars, but thats just what (I assume) they get up to in the room. My ideal would be a multi session environment like an FKK, complete with SPs, but set in a fetish club atmosphere. Is it just my weird fantasy, or does it exist anywhere?
Maybe I am just suffering from FKK fatigue!
PL
CheekyDancer
05-04-12, 13:02
So if the FKK scene was to be closed forever and you could only keep one club to stay open. Which club would it be and why.
UShobbyist
05-06-12, 21:30
All the major credit cards of US have free collect call phone numbers on the back of the cards. If I want to reach the customer service of that credit card company from Germany, what do I need to dial before that 10 digits collect call phone number if I call from a public telephone?
All the major credit cards of US have free collect call phone numbers on the back of the cards. If I want to reach the customer service of that credit card company from Germany, what do I need to dial before that 10 digits collect call phone number if I call from a public telephone?
001
So: 00 + 1 + Area Code + Number
Hey guys,
Wondering if anyone has been to Europa lately. Any reports to this place?
Just returned from my bi annual FKK vacation few weeks ago. Did not report as whatever I would say will be the exact repeats of many posts and threads already been posted. But then here I go anyway.
Clubs visited were Oase, World and Samya.
If you were there in March ans was wondering who the fuck was that guy spreading 5 e notes for the girls to dance, it was me. I do that once a year just to satisfy my own selfishness. I did not come one time that night but spent more than enough money. I felt bad about some of the uglies but kind hearted girls there and they benefited the most from my spending spree. This was only at Samya. Love their party atmosphere.
World was great in terms of service this time around. Got hooked up with a younglocal dude who sorta introduced me to his fav girls with great attitude and service. I think one girl was giving me a BBBJ for over an hour and I fell a sleep still suffering from jet leg. When I realised where I was and what a girl was doing, I felt bad and told her to please stop for her sake. She replied, it's alright. I can go on forever if you want with a smile. Whoa. Nice. She kept on going. Was a very nice welcome back to Germany.
Oase had the best lineup. I thought I would skip Oase on this trip as I normally make it my first stop and somewhat get internal injury from couple of aggressive, shark like UGLY girls. I can do ugly and fat but not with a bad attitude.
This time around however, I was pleasantly surprised not only with its line up but also with great attitudes from the girls that I was really attracted to.
Sorry I do not retain names or age well. Partly due to my old brain and my ignorance. I see a cute face with nice body and a perfect attitude, I get an erection and that's that. Spend half an hour if I don't like the service. Extend to whaever for as long as I find the girl I need to spend more time with. Simple as that.
So then for the purpose of this post was what?
Yes, I am returning to Alemania and will be south of Dresden near Europa. Their web site looks ok. But the facility did not seem at par with other MAJOR players.
What should I expect there? Girls speak American? Only german? Quality girls? Forget about it and drive back to Frankfurt or up North to berlin?
Thanks in advance. Happy punting!
Long time member as Calboy, newly born as Calboy69.
Captain Dan's Alises
05-09-12, 22:16
What should I expect there? Girls speak American? Only german?A lot of the girls speak English.
A lot of the girls speak English.Have you been there?
Looks wise, an 18-20 year old spinner with B+ breasts and nice bulous ass and a models face. Blond would be ideal, but if all the rest was there I would be happy.
Performance wise, I want a GFE who makes me believe it with her kissing. I want her to do BBBJCIM if that is what I am in the mood for and be willing to do anal if that is my thing on the given day.
I visited Artemis, as I wrote in another post, about a week ago and now I want a lot more of this thing. Planning a new big trip in August and will visit four clubs this time during ten days. The clubs are The Palace and Fkk Oase in the Frankfurt Region as well as Fkk Acapulco and Bernds Saunaclub in North Rhine Westphalia. The first visit will be on a Thursday and the last visit on the Saturday the week after. Are there any of these clubs that keeps up near the same quantity and quality on a Monday or a Tuesday as they do in the weekend days Friday and Saturday? If I was to remove one of the clubs from my list which one would be easiest to forgive myself for not doing a visit this time?
I visited Artemis, as I wrote in another post, about a week ago and now I want a lot more of this thing. Planning a new big trip in August and will visit four clubs this time during ten days. The clubs are The Palace and Fkk Oase in the Frankfurt Region as well as Fkk Acapulco and Bernds Saunaclub in North Rhine Westphalia. The first visit will be on a Thursday and the last visit on the Saturday the week after. Are there any of these clubs that keeps up near the same quantity and quality on a Monday or a Tuesday as they do in the weekend days Friday and Saturday? If I was to remove one of the clubs from my list which one would be easiest to forgive myself for not doing a visit this time?Bernds is closed on weekends.
Bernds is closed on weekends.I would also suggest to Nestor X that he might replace Palace with World.
I've heard about Bernds being closed on weekends, but can anyone tell me why they've chosen this odd solution? I mean IMO there should be a lot of potential visitors especially in the weekend?
I would also suggest to Nestor X that he might replace Palace with World.
I've heard about Bernds being closed on weekends, but can anyone tell me why they've chosen this odd solution? I mean IMO there should be a lot of potential visitors especially in the weekend?Bernds is located in a residential area (the building is just a private house). Being closed on the weekend is an accommodation the original owner made to the community to avoid some of the complaints about the business by the local residents.
I would also suggest to Nestor X that he might replace Palace with World.
I've heard about Bernds being closed on weekends, but can anyone tell me why they've chosen this odd solution? I mean IMO there should be a lot of potential visitors especially in the weekend?Please explain why you prefer World compared to Palace.
Stephanzen
05-18-12, 11:08
Does anyone know an FKK where I could find a natural busty hairy girl?
Vito Corleone
05-19-12, 04:38
Does anyone know an FKK where I could find a natural busty hairy girl?Club Dacia had 4-5 really hairy girls. One looked like Hannibal & the other looked like one of the elephants he rode through the alps.
Euroknight
05-19-12, 19:39
How safe is sex in FKK? It is not clear to me if the girls are member of the club, and if they do regular medical checks. Even if these are not mandatory, do they do on a voluntary basis?
Strikesfun
05-19-12, 19:54
Hello All,
Not to start a word flame here. All have opinions just like having an asshole. This is a hobby that invites individual choice. Those worry should just not go. Very safe. Smile.
How safe is sex in FKK? It is not clear to me if the girls are member of the club, and if they do regular medical checks. Even if these are not mandatory, do they do on a voluntary basis?
London Traveller
05-20-12, 00:28
How safe is sex in FKK? It is not clear to me if the girls are member of the club, and if they do regular medical checks. Even if these are not mandatory, do they do on a voluntary basis?The level of safety is really up to you. If you have sex always with a condom and also have the condom on for oral sex, and you don't go down on the girl, and don't kiss her on the lips. Then it is extremely safe. If you want to take a risk then you don't follow these guidelines.
Club Dacia had 4-5 really hairy girls. One looked like Hannibal & the other looked like one of the elephants he rode through the alps.Finally found what I've been looking for all these years.
IrishLad81
05-21-12, 21:02
Hi,
I'm thinking of traveling to the Franfurt FKKs around weekend 11/12 August. I was wanting to know will the girls be gone on Holidays or is it a case of new girls been around as colleges etc are on Hols and they go back in September.
Captain America
05-22-12, 00:23
Folks, what is up with all the AO discussions everywhere? Seems liek it used to be the exception if a club or girls offered it. I rememeber the club next to Freude39 in Bochum used o be rumored to be "Alles Ohne" and it was a big deal. Aside from all the embarrassing (but teatable) stuff that can get you in trouble with your significant other, there is still stuff out there that can KILL you. Doesn't anyone remember this?
Captain America
05-22-12, 00:26
Beyoned personal choice I believe the girls are licensed and legal prostiyutes which obligates them to a monthly check-up. The clubs should check the licenses and make sure the check-ups are done. I have no info if that is actually happening, though. Maybe one of our more senior members knows?
How safe is sex in FKK? It is not clear to me if the girls are member of the club, and if they do regular medical checks. Even if these are not mandatory, do they do on a voluntary basis?
Beyoned personal choice I believe the girls are licensed and legal prostiyutes which obligates them to a monthly check-up. The clubs should check the licenses and make sure the check-ups are done. I have no info if that is actually happening, though. Maybe one of our more senior members knows?Don't know about other clubs but every 3 weeks a MD visits Brends. I've never asked who pays what.
During my last visit, the MD showed up and every girl had an examination. One girl commented that she used him as her GP IRL.
Beyoned personal choice I believe the girls are licensed and legal prostiyutes which obligates them to a monthly check-up. The clubs should check the licenses and make sure the check-ups are done. I have no info if that is actually happening, though. Maybe one of our more senior members knows?Obligatory checks were outlawed in Germany 10 years ago. Used to be that way, but with the prostitution law of 2002 it was forbidden to force them to undergo checks. Clubs have their ways though if they want to and "pressure" is put on the girls in some clubs to undergo checks.
Hessen Bub
05-22-12, 07:59
Folks, what is up with all the AO discussions everywhere? Seems liek it used to be the exception if a club or girls offered it. I rememeber the club next to Freude39 in Bochum used o be rumored to be "Alles Ohne" and it was a big deal. Aside from all the embarrassing (but teatable) stuff that can get you in trouble with your significant other, there is still stuff out there that can KILL you. Doesn't anyone remember this?AO is everywhere. In every club. If you want to avoid it. Stay home or use a condom for CBJ and sex. And yes, there's stuff out there that can kill you: Cars. Cigarettes. Alcohol. Bird flu. Mad cow disease. Legalized guns (in the US).
Beyoned personal choice I believe the girls are licensed and legal prostiyutes which obligates them to a monthly check-up. The clubs should check the licenses and make sure the check-ups are done. I have no info if that is actually happening, though. Maybe one of our more senior members knows?"Licensed prostitutes"? Hilarious. There's no certificate or exam or university, everybody can sell their body in Germany. There's no obligatory check-up for working girls by law. As Henio said some clubs do "force" it on the girls. But you know there's a time lag when you try to find STDs?
HB
Folks, what is up with all the AO discussions everywhere? Seems liek it used to be the exception if a club or girls offered it. I rememeber the club next to Freude39 in Bochum used o be rumored to be "Alles Ohne" and it was a big deal. Aside from all the embarrassing (but teatable) stuff that can get you in trouble with your significant other, there is still stuff out there that can KILL you. Doesn't anyone remember this?Please keep your paternalistic comments with you, thanks.
I risk my life far more when driving on the motorways than doing whatever in an FKK. And, yes, as HB says, ringing the bell unannounced in a "posh" American neighbourhood can also KILL me, if the guy opening the doors is a bit edgy and likes to play with guns. I rather ring the bell of Bernds, and if I am to be killed, at least having some pleasure before.
Angus Magee
05-22-12, 09:58
Please keep your paternalistic comments with you, thanks.
I risk my life far more when driving on the motorways than doing whatever in an FKK. And, yes, as HB says, ringing the bell unannounced in a "posh" American neighbourhood can also KILL me, if the guy opening the doors is a bit edgy and likes to play with guns. I rather ring the bell of Bernds, and if I am to be killed, at least having some pleasure before.Even though it is not something I look for myself I am all for AO being discussed openly. Better an open discussion than keeping it all hidden and vilifying those who do search it out. People by now know the risk and have to make up their own minds whether or not to have sex without a condom.
It is good though to be responsible when mentioning AO found in clubs that are not specifically know for or advertising AO. The women who provide the service in such clubs also have the right not to have us doing unwanted advertising for them. That is they themselves may not want it discussed. So before hitting 'upload' perhaps ask yourself how the report might effect those who are mentioned.
AM
F*ch this. There are a few clubs (more and more lately) that openly advocate AO. Talk about them if you want in the AO forum. Otherwise you never ever mention girls in 'normal' clubs doing AO. Personally I have little respect for the bareback hunters under us mongers. So if you meet a girl that offers it to you, consider yourself 'special' and keep it to yourself.
I have a prosthetic leg. Will I encounter any problems at an FKK?
I have a prosthetic leg. Will I encounter any problems at an FKK?Depends on the FKK.
Artemis has a lot of stairs, for example from the main area to the rooms. But I think they have facilities to take care of that.
Palace, on the other hand, will allow you stay always on one level, except for the entrance. Same for Mainhattan if I remember correctly.
Oase I think could be more complicated.
HTH.
Kimino
Angus Magee
05-23-12, 19:58
Depends on the FKK.
Artemis has a lot of stairs, Artemis also advertises as wheelchair accessible. Not that you would need that with a prosthetic leg (I imagine) but if you do need a lift to the rooms upstairs, it is available.
I wonder if you mean would it disturbe the girls? It may some of course but as long as you are polite and gentlemanly I am pretty sure many would just take it as one more punter with a wallet full of euros.
AM
I have a prosthetic leg. Will I encounter any problems at an FKK?Unless you intend to f*ck her with it, it should not be a problem.
At World people with severe mobility problems are limited to the main room and dining room: this is no real problem for the handful of regulars with severely limited mobility. It sounds as if you can get around ok: however there are perhaps 20-25 steps on the stairs down to the lower floor and the garden (where the BBQ is served in summer)
In terms of the girls at FKKs, you should have no real problems at any club. Remember that many of the girls are young and of restricted experience so there may be a few who avoid you (as some girls avoid men who are young / old / look tired etc etc) but the flip side of this could be that you are perhaps more likely to hook up with an worker with more sensitivity
I know that FKK in Munich are not recommended, but I have 7 hours stopover at Munich airport and I don't feel like staying at the airport, so I might as well have some fun. Considering that time is not enough for some of the better clubs at Augsburg at Ingolstadt, which is the best option in Munich. Sunshine, Relax, Oase, or M54? I am considering the quality of the girls, their availability as I will be in Munich from 9 am to 4 pm, and the accessibility by public transport from the airport.
I visited Artemis, as I wrote in another post, about a week ago and now I want a lot more of this thing. Planning a new big trip in August and will visit four clubs this time during ten days. The clubs are The Palace and Fkk Oase in the Frankfurt Region as well as Fkk Acapulco and Bernds Saunaclub in North Rhine Westphalia. The first visit will be on a Thursday and the last visit on the Saturday the week after. Are there any of these clubs that keeps up near the same quantity and quality on a Monday or a Tuesday as they do in the weekend days Friday and Saturday? If I was to remove one of the clubs from my list which one would be easiest to forgive myself for not doing a visit this time?Some people love Palace, some people hate it. I've been to Oase 5 or 6 times and stayed the whole night and loved it. I was in Palace for an hour or two and I wouldn't go back if the entrance was free. Some people says Palace has a better lineup. That depends on how you define it. I think Palace had some that were better than Oase, and some that were much worse. I think the general consensus is that Oase is better service and Palace has the hotter girls. However it really depends on your taste. Oase girls tend to be more girl next door types. Palace has lots of girls with heavy tans and tattoos which are turnoffs for me. A lot more silicone at Palace as well. The girls at Oase are generally pretty nice, and Palace has a reputation for sharkiness. Sharkiness is really not a problem for me because I can deal with it, but it kind of messes up the fantasy. Oase also has a beautiful outdoor area with lounge chairs and a pool that really seals the deal for me.
Maybe I just had a bad experience at Palace, but when I went the girls were too busy playing video poker or smoking to session. I'm not great looking but I'm by no means repulsive so it wasn't me. After I finally found someone to session with she did a lousy job then overcharged me. I was actually glad because it gave me the excuse to walk out and go to Oase where I had a great time.
Lots of people like Palace though, so don't take my word for it. However, if you are looking at going during the daytime in the Summer, I think even the hardcore Palace fans would tell you that the outdoor area at Oase is quite a treat. It depends on your personality type. I think Oase is much more relaxing and that's what I'm after.
Some people love Palace, some people hate it. I've been to Oase 5 or 6 times and stayed the whole night and loved it. I was in Palace for an hour or two and I wouldn't go back if the entrance was free. Some people says Palace has a better lineup. That depends on how you define it. I think Palace had some that were better than Oase, and some that were much worse. I think the general consensus is that Oase is better service and Palace has the hotter girls. However it really depends on your taste. Oase girls tend to be more girl next door types. Palace has lots of girls with heavy tans and tattoos which are turnoffs for me. A lot more silicone at Palace as well. The girls at Oase are generally pretty nice, and Palace has a reputation for sharkiness. Sharkiness is really not a problem for me because I can deal with it, but it kind of messes up the fantasy. Oase also has a beautiful outdoor area with lounge chairs and a pool that really seals the deal for me.I completely agree with you on this! I was told previous to my first Palace visit that it holds the best line-up. I was surprised and disappointed when I discovered that many girls were siliconized and some of them, not ugly, but absolutely not my type. When I came to Oase, I just knew that this was the place for me. Next-door babes and IMO the line-up was so much better than in Palace. On my recent visits to Palace, I feel that it's degraded even more. I agree that you find more variety of girls at Palace, but I won't choose some chubby girls from Greece when I can fuck Eva Mendes-like Romanian girls in Oase! Why complain, I have had almost none bad experience with Romanian or Bulgarian girls. I don't care where the girls come from, only where they get cum from!
I would recommend a visit to World as well. I just loved the place from my first visit. The girls were eager to please. 98% from Romania, but who cares? And almost no upsell as well! I'm definitely getting back to World next time, you only use 15 min. More on public transport to get there instead of stopping at Oase.
I have a prosthetic leg. Will I encounter any problems at an FKK?I do not think you will have any problems at all from the girls, staff, other punters. FKKs are very relaxed. I am sure you'll enjoy yourself.
At Finca Erotica in Dierdorf, almost everything except the Kino and one or two rooms is on one level, including a good garden. I see one regular with a prosthetic leg having a great time.
I would go for it, if you can satisfy yourself that your mobility is going to be OK.
I have a prosthetic leg. Will I encounter any problems at an FKK?You might have a problem at Oase, since the dressing room / clothes lockers are down a long flight of stairs. The only indoor toilets are down there as well. There are toilets outside, at a considerable walk, but they wouldn't be accessible in cold weather.
I would recommend a visit to World as well. I just loved the place from my first visit. The girls were eager to please. 98% from Romania, but who cares? And almost no upsell as well! I'm definitely getting back to World next time, you only use 15 min. More on public transport to get there instead of stopping at Oase.You are spot on. Oase and World are the best FKKs near Frankfurt. I consider Mainhattan to be an acquired taste, not for everyone.
I'm thinking of visiting either Oase or Palace before I go to the airport. Is it possible to store two hand luggages (max size to bring inside the airplane) there, or is it best to let the hotel keep them?
Forcharles
05-29-12, 22:24
The German hotels are secure, so I wouldn't worry about getting things stolen there. If you have valuables, you can put them in the hotel safe. Just ask at the desk. I can't think of any other reason to take your luggage to the FKK. The lockers there are limited in space and your luggage would have to be stored behind the check-in counter at the FKK, which in my opinion wouldn't be as safe as your hotel.
Travelforfun
05-30-12, 09:18
The German hotels are secure, so I wouldn't worry about getting things stolen there. If you have valuables, you can put them in the hotel safe. Just ask at the desk. I can't think of any other reason to take your luggage to the FKK. The lockers there are limited in space and your luggage would have to be stored behind the check-in counter at the FKK, which in my opinion wouldn't be as safe as your hotel.Security. I think depends on the hotel and the person on duty that time. Few years ago I was in a similar situation and left my bagpack and suitcase at the hotel after check out. The Hotel was IBIS, Dusseldorf Bhf. I have this habit of putting all my change / coins collected during the trip in my back pack pocket and exchanging them at the airport when I leave.
When I returned to pick up my luggage and opened the zipper to put in more change collected during the day in I found all the coins missing. I complained to the manager on duty and he simply denied knowing anything about it. I even asked him to show me the security cam to check if someone else had touched my bag while collecting theirs, but he simply refused to cooperate. In anger I walked down to the nearest police station and told them what happened. 1 cop accompanied me to the Hotel and talked to the manager in details at the end of it he asked me how much money was missing and I estimated about 30-35 Euro worth of change. They asked me the leave my details with them and if they find anything they will let me know. I'm yet to hear anything since.
So hotel or anyplace being secure in today's world it just a matter of prospective.
Another option is to leave the luggage in a locker at the Hauptbahnhof (or one of the main S- Bahn stations) or at the Airport left luggage. Both of these options should be more secure than leaving in a club or hotel
I'm heading back to Frankfurt for my second FKK experience, it's really an extended layover tacked onto the end of a trip to Africa for work.
On my previous trip (which was actually two, two-night layovers) , I hit the RLD as well as Oase, Palace (twice) and Mainhatten.
I liked all of those venues, I thought Palace had the hottest girls but some were sharks; Oase had the best service and Mainhatten had a nice mix of service / quality.
I'll be arriving in town on a Friday at 8pm or so and leaving Monday at mid-day.
I was thinking of hitting Palace first, reason being that it's close, easy to get to, and if I stay too late for a train and have to take a taxi back to my hotel near the hbf, it won't be too expensive. Also, I find that in general towards the beginning of the trip I tend to go for the hottest girls possible, even if the service isn't as special. And as the days go on, I find myself wanting better service. So I figure I'll nail a few models the first day when I'm not as picky about performance.
So for you more experienced FKK fans, what would you do for the other two days? Oase on Saturday and Mainhatten on Sunday? Or Oase both days? Or should I try somewhere new? I do prefer to take public transit whenever possible. I won't have a car and prefer to spend my cash on girls instead of taxis. Saturday and Sunday I'll probably start my days earlier so I can be done in time to catch the train home from wherever I am.
Any advice would be appreciated. I'll be sure to report back with my experiences!
ImOffToCollege
05-30-12, 20:50
Greetings from an FKK newbie. This is my first post on this esteemed forum, but I have been quite active on a regional forum where I'm based in.
In about a month, I will be flying into Munich early on a Saturday. The plan is to pick up a car and visit a good FKK somewhere in Bavaria, then drive to Rothenburg the next day on my way to Frankfurt area. Based on what you've contributed to the forum, it seems that Colosseum (Augsburg) , Hawaii (Ingolstadt) , and Heaven (Nuremberg) are some good places in Bavaria. Which one should I pick as my first FKK experience, considering both lineup quality as well as service standards? They are all more or less on the way to Rothenburg, so just about equal in terms of convenience for me.
By the way, I've already decided to check out Oase, Palace and Samya once I get to the western parts.
Many thanks!
So for you more experienced FKK fans, what would you do for the other two days? Oase on Saturday and Mainhatten on Sunday? Or Oase both days? Or should I try somewhere new? I do prefer to take public transit whenever possible. I won't have a car and prefer to spend my cash on girls instead of taxis. Saturday and Sunday I'll probably start my days earlier so I can be done in time to catch the train home from wherever I am.On a Sunday I would go to Oase, the last time I was in Mainhattan on a Sunday the place was pretty dead until around 18:00 when a lot of the girls showed up.
Saturday nights at Oase can be very hectic with lots of men, so if you prefer a slightly more relaxed experience then the best choice would be Mainhattan, but you would still have a good time if you went to Oase.
Sharks would be another option but I have yet to go there.
I'll be making my 3rd visit to NRW this Sunday. The plan is to stay there till Thursday morning. I want to continue to expand my horizons.
I was in DV, LR (twice) , ACA and Heaven 7 in the last 2 visits. Which location would the experienced mongers recommend for Sunday? What about Wednesday. I wonder if I should try a Partytreff this time?
I was in DV, LR (twice) , ACA and Heaven 7 in the last 2 visits. Which location would the experienced mongers recommend for Sunday? What about Wednesday. I wonder if I should try a Partytreff this time?Weds: Try Freudenberg 39 in Bochum. I think you might like it (although I have not been able to get there for more than a year now.).
As for Partytreffs, remember this: It's easy to go from Partytreffs to FKKs. To start at FKKs and then graduate towards Partytreffs is a rarer thing, however. There are of course exceptions to this rule.
O
Weds: Try Freudenberg 39 in Bochum. I think you might like it (although I have not been able to get there for more than a year now.).
As for Partytreffs, remember this: It's easy to go from Partytreffs to FKKs. To start at FKKs and then graduate towards Partytreffs is a rarer thing, however. There are of course exceptions to this rule.
OThanks for the Freude tip.
As to Partytreffs: I am conscious of your point. But I feel I need to scratch that itch. I hope I manage to do it at the right place, at the right time.
I don't want to complicate things for you, but Freude can be a bit hit-miss in the spring / summer. Friday was dreadful (optically speaking) ; I heard 4/5 girls were in GT yesterday and a few others are on holiday. If it had been my first visit, I doubt I'd return. Service levels are still sky high of course and luckily one of my favorites was there (although she was booked almost non-stop). You might want to call about the number of girls there; also make sure you are early, after 4pm it starts getting quiet (and some girls will be calling it a day).
Hi Guys
I'm due to visit Berlin at the end of June begining of July and was wondering if any of the forum has any experiences of Thai massage in Berlin city centre.
I am looking for a Thai massage that offers a full service and not just ont that offers a happy ending offer of a BJ or HJ one that goes all the way so to say, I would be greatful if any of you could tell me of such places that exist in Berlin.
Thanks,
Del
Hi Guys
I'm due to visit Berlin at the end of June begining of July and was wondering if any of the forum has any experiences of Thai massage in Berlin city centre.
I am looking for a Thai massage that offers a full service and not just ont that offers a happy ending offer of a BJ or HJ one that goes all the way so to say, I would be greatful if any of you could tell me of such places that exist in Berlin.
Thanks,
DelYou'll find more information on the massage scene if you look under 'germany' and then under 'berlin'. This area is more for the fkk clubs.
Forcharles
06-05-12, 04:47
I'm planning on renting a car in October when I arrive in Frankfurt. The website where I reserved the rental explains that there is an extra charge of 11 Euro per day for winter tires. Are winter tires required for October? Anyone with experience or knowledge about this?
Thursday June 7 in (catholic) parts of Germany as NRW and Hessen is a Public Holiday, called Fronleichnam.
This may have some impact on the opening hours of the Clubs, although I am not sure for which clubs this is true.
B30
I'm planning on renting a car in October when I arrive in Frankfurt. The website where I reserved the rental explains that there is an extra charge of 11 Euro per day for winter tires. Are winter tires required for October? Anyone with experience or knowledge about this?IME I would say you would be unlucky to experience winter conditions around Frankfurt in October. Personally I would not have bothered. But if it is a concern, then just check the weather forecast a few days before you pick up the car and make a change on your car rental reservation if in doubt.
IME I would say you would be unlucky to experience winter conditions around Frankfurt in October. Personally I would not have bothered. But if it is a concern, then just check the weather forecast a few days before you pick up the car and make a change on your car rental reservation if in doubt.Some (not all!) car hire firms operating out of Frankfurt Airport do charge extra / day for winter tyres. Other firms make it optional. Certain Internet budget car hire sites always give the firms who run this semi-scam winter tyre thing first billing, unfortunately. Thrifty used to be a real culprit. If you shop around to e. G. Sixt, you might get a deal without the compulsory winter tyre tax.
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I'm planning on renting a car in October when I arrive in Frankfurt. The website where I reserved the rental explains that there is an extra charge of 11 Euro per day for winter tires. Are winter tires required for October? Anyone with experience or knowledge about this?It's just a scam, a lot of the time during winter the cars will already have winter tyres on even If you've not paid for them, they're not going to remove them after every customer.
OfficeMatt
06-06-12, 01:13
It's just a scam, a lot of the time during winter the cars will already have winter tyres on even If you've not paid for them, they're not going to remove them after every customer.And the fact is, if you rely on winter tires for winter driving, you shouldn't be driving, period.
And the fact is, if you rely on winter tires for winter driving, you shouldn't be driving, period.Wrong! If you drive with summer tires during the winter you shouldn't be driving, period. However, you will most likely not be needing wintertires in October in Frankfurt. But Mother Nature can still surprise us! You'd better watch the forecast as someone said.
And the fact is, if you rely on winter tires for winter driving, you shouldn't be driving, period.About the worst post on this topic, since in Germany it is mandated by law that you need winter tires in 'Wintery conditions'. So if it happens to start snowing in October (not common, but not impossible) , you're breaking the law if you're driving around without winter tires; regardless of your prowess as a driver.
Reasons to use winter tyres.
Once temperatures start to get down to aroound 4 to 6 degrees celsius the rubber on summer tyres starts to lose flexibility and become much less effective for cornering, braking etc.
If you do not use winter tyres in wintery conditions and have an accident then you may find that the car insurance does not cover you and you may have committed a driving offence.
A perennial point of discussion in Germany is "have you put your winter tyres on yet?". This is because it is a matter of judgement. In general it would be very unlikely that people would be putting winter tyres on in October since the necessary weather conditions would be unexpected.
As for car hire companies: look very carefully at all quotes you get. Some companies (e. g. Budget) last year included winter tyres over the winter period whereas others charged anything up to 15 Euro a day extra! As Ortos says, avoid Thrifty / Dollar (franchised in Germany to Terstappen). If booking through a consolidator make sure they don't use Thrifty (I note that Auto Europe has recently stopped using Terstappen after it became aware of the numerous internet threads pointing out the many Thrifty / Dollar (Terstappen) scams
Hessen Bub
06-06-12, 13:21
Thursday June 7 in (catholic) parts of Germany as NRW and Hessen is a Public Holiday, called Fronleichnam.
This may Have some impact on the opening hours of the Clubs, although I am not sure for which clubs this is true.
B30NO impact for the mayor clubs like Palace, Mainhattan, Oase, World, Sharks etc.
HB
OfficeMatt
06-07-12, 05:56
About the worst post on this topic, since in Germany it is mandated by law that you need winter tires in 'Wintery conditions'. So if it happens to start snowing in October (not common, but not impossible) , you're breaking the law if you're driving around without winter tires; regardless of your prowess as a driver.Sorry, I live in a city / country where people think that if you have winter tires on your vehicle, you can somehow drive like a maniac and that you will never end up in the ditch. I drive with all seasons, because a) that's all you need, and be) I know how to drive responsibly in winter conditions. Winter tires do not make you safer or improve your performance if you do not know how to drive per the conditions.
What the hell are 'summer' tires?
NO impact for the mayor clubs like Palace, Mainhattan, Oase, World, Sharks etc.
HBDo not know what is a Major impact but for example GT, LR and PHG will have opening hours today as they have on Sunday / Public Holidays.
You could call that a minor impact : )!
Other clubs I am not sure about.
B30
http://www.fkk-harmony.com/Deutsch/start.html
New FKK not far from Hamburg.
B30
Nille Copenhagen
06-18-12, 08:50
http://www.fkk-harmony.com/Deutsch/start.html
New FKK not far from Hamburg.
B30Thanks,
I might check it out. It looks promising.
Thanks,
I might check it out. It looks promising.I thought you'd already checked it out, didn't you do the Danish translation on their website?
Nille Copenhagen
06-18-12, 20:55
I thought you'd already checked it out, didn't you do the Danish translation on their website?Nope I didn't do the translation, the translation is BTW pretty bad.
As for car hire companies: look very carefully at all quotes you get. Some companies (e. g. Budget) last year included winter tyres over the winter period whereas others charged anything up to 15 Euro a day extra!I have pre-booked rental cars with Hertz for 5 trips spanning November (2 trips) and December (3 trips) this year and for each of those 5 trips the winter tyres were included in the regular rental cost of the car. The prices I pre-booked at were no more than the cost of a Hertz rental car during my summer time trips.
This was the same last year for winter 2011/2012.
I read a news article last week that Europcar was fined €45, 000 by the German authorities for tracking the whereabouts of their rental cars with GPS. It tended to be the more high end cars rather than the modest cars that were tracked. I guess there was a percentage of those rental cars ending up in the known locations of brothels, FKKs, saunaclubs, etc. With your car tracking you as being there. LOL.
I expect that rental car companies have to have some means of security to track their cars should they be lost or stolen. It may be a clause of the insurance to get lower premiums.
Nonetheless it makes a private person want to take public transport instead. LOL.
I read a news article last week that Europcar was fined €45, 000 by the German authorities for tracking the whereabouts of their rental cars with GPS. It tended to be the more high end cars rather than the modest cars that were tracked. I guess there was a percentage of those rental cars ending up in the known locations of brothels, FKKs, saunaclubs, etc. With your car tracking you as being there. LOL.
I expect that rental car companies have to have some means of security to track their cars should they be lost or stolen. It may be a clause of the insurance to get lower premiums.
Nonetheless it makes a private person want to take public transport instead. LOL.The Europeans take privacy seriously. Unlike the USA, where corporations get their way, the German gov. takes strong efforts to protects its citizens from intrusions into their private lives. There is not much stigma with going to the clubs--which is perfectly legal. I suspect the real issue is the car cos. charging huge fines when they see you have violated the geographical restrictions on the rental agreement. As a renter, you are responsible for anything that happens to the car.
Burma Jones
08-02-12, 21:10
I have pre-booked rental cars with Hertz for 5 trips spanning November (2 trips) and December (3 trips) this year and for each of those 5 trips the winter tyres were included in the regular rental cost of the car. The prices I pre-booked at were no more than the cost of a Hertz rental car during my summer time trips.
This was the same last year for winter 2011/2012.I rented twice with Avis, once in Dusseldorf and once in Frankfurt. The winter tires were already included and the price was the same, just like Hertz. Checking the tires, they had the snow image on the sidewall but they appeared to be all season tires as opposed to a strictly winter tire.
Banana Boi
08-04-12, 18:18
I rented twice with Avis, once in Dusseldorf and once in Frankfurt. The winter tires were already included and the price was the same, just like Hertz. Checking the tires, they had the snow image on the sidewall but they appeared to be all season tires as opposed to a strictly winter tire.Anyone know if SixT and Enterprise have a surcharge for winter tires?
Anyone know if SixT and Enterprise have a surcharge for winter tires?Last March when I rented from SixT there was no additional charge. I'm planning a trip in Oct. When I checked the SixT website, a winter tire surcharge was noted on the page.
Anyone know if SixT and Enterprise have a surcharge for winter tires?I rented from Sixt. De (but the english-language version) about last year in November and there was NO surcharge for winter tyres. I think, if memory serves, it was offered as an option, an option that I declined to accept on their website, but when I actually got the car from FRA (aiport) the vehicle had winter tyres on it already and I was not charged extra.
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I rented twice with Avis, once in Dusseldorf and once in Frankfurt. The winter tires were already included and the price was the same, just like Hertz. Checking the tires, they had the snow image on the sidewall but they appeared to be all season tires as opposed to a strictly winter tire.There is no such thing as "all season tire". A tire is either summer tire or winter tire. I know that some are led to believe that all season tires exist, but a tire is all about compromises. You can't have all the best features packed into one tire! The snow image is accompanied with M+S which means that the tire is designed for Mud and Snow conditions. The winter tires in Germany are often referred to as continental tires (not to be related to the tire brand Continental) , and do not have the same features as winter tires that are sold / used in for example Scandinavia (except Denmark).
Sorry about this. But for Americans who've traveled to Germany, are there any differences between renting a car in the states and renting one in Germany?
I mean. Aside from Dollar / Thrifty / Budget. Who are supposed to be run by the Pirate Kriegsmarine "Terstappen". I know about those guys and how they bully you into buying their insurance and all at punitive rates.
But for the reputable companies. I haven't found a difference between German rental companies and the way they do business and the USA.
What I did find. Is that there is a 20 percent additional fee charged to rentals picked up at airport and train stations. And that can be avoided by going to an offsite location 3 or more miles from the airport. We don't have that sillyness here in the states that I'm aware of. And yeah. There are some "goofy fees" like winterized tires I suppose. But I've seen some pretty goofy fees here also.
But for everything else. The insurance. Looks like they handle it all the same as US companies. If your credit card carries insurance. You don't have to buy their insurance.
I'll be in Frankfurt at the beginning of next month and I want to reserve a car tomorrow so it's all lined up so looking for last minute surprises. Thinking about going with Hertz.
Sorry about this. But for Americans who've traveled to Germany, are there any differences between renting a car in the states and renting one in Germany?
I'll be in Frankfurt at the beginning of next month and I want to reserve a car tomorrow so it's all lined up so looking for last minute surprises. Thinking about going with Hertz.IME I have not seen much difference. You book your dates, time and location and you select the extras that you opt for either. I am also booked with Hertz for the beginning of next month. Price same as renting one at home except you pay euro on one or the option of USD or euro on other.
OfficeMatt
08-21-12, 03:48
We don't have that sillyness here in the states that I'm aware of.Yes, you do have that silliness in the States. We also have it in Canada. Not sure how it works in the States, but airports in Canada are a tax authority unto themselves and can levy whatever taxes they want and can borrow with disregard to reason and rational thought. Hence airport improvement taxes, or whatever special name they call them. It's called usury. But whatever. You can waive insurance, but at the same time, you have to prove that you have some other insurance coverage.
Forcharles
08-24-12, 23:39
I came across this article and thought I would share it with my fellow mongers:
http://www.alternet.org/print/how-risky-oral-sex
We need to be informed of the risks, but personally, I don't intend to change my sexual practice.
How Risky is Oral Sex?
August 19, 2012.
This story was originally published at Salon [3].
Oral sex with a condom or dental dam: It's one of those things things that sexual health educators preach but which people rarely practice. A reminder of that came earlier this week with the release of a CDC report [4] noting that 'adolescents perceive fewer health-related risks for oral sex compared with vaginal intercourse' and, as a result, young people may 'be placing themselves at risk of STIs or HIV before they are ever at risk of pregnancy. '
My immediate reaction to that was: Well, but there are fewer health-related risks, right? Then I came across this remark in HealthDay [5] from Christopher Hurt, a professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: 'I would say that the risk of STD transmission through oral sex is underappreciated and underestimated. As part of sex education programs, kids need to be made aware of that fact that oral sex is not a completely risk-free activity. ' But, I wondered, just how dangerous is it?
It turns out that putting a solid figure on the danger is difficult. Nikki Mayes of the CDC's media office says, 'As far as I'm aware, no studies have quantified the exact risk for all STIs [through oral sex], ' and the CDC doesn't gather data on STIs contracted through oral sex. It's difficult to attribute infections to any single sex act — most people who contract STIs engage in a variety of potentially risky sexual practices.
But we can look at what we know about the transmission risks of particular STIs, starting first with the one that scares people the most: HIV. The greatest danger when it comes to oral sex is believed to be with fellatio for the 'receptive partner. ' (Now here's a mind fuck: In clinical lingo, 'receptive oral sex' refers to performing oral sex on someone — or 'giving head, ' as the kids say — not to 'receiving it. ' You can think of it this way: The receptive partner is receiving the penis or vagina in their mouth.) The website of AVERT [6], an international HIV and AIDS charity, explains that transmission can occur when 'sexual fluid (semen or vaginal fluid) or blood (from menstruation or a wound somewhere in the genital or anal region) [gets] into a cut, sore, ulcer or area of inflammation somewhere in their mouth or throat. '
A University of California, San Francisco [7], study put the per-contact risk of transmission through 'receptive' fellatio with an HIV positive partner at 0. 04 percent. (For perspective, consider that the same study found a much higher per-contact risk of 0. 82 percent for unprotected receptive anal sex.) The researchers calculated the rate of HIV transmission to be 4 out of 10, 000 acts of fellatio. Without ejaculation in the mouth, though, some experts have called HIV transmission via performing fellatio'extremely low risk. ' [8]
As for the danger of having someone perform unprotected oral sex on you: 'The only risk in this scenario would be from bleeding wounds or gums in the HIV positive person's mouth or on their lips, which may transfer blood onto the mucous membranes of the other person's genitals or anus, or into any cuts or sores they may have, ' according to AVERT.
(I hope that all makes sense — my brain still hurts from trying to understand the concept of 'receptive oral sex. ')
Now that we've addressed people's worst fear, let's turn to the most realistic worry: herpes. It presents the biggest threat of transmission through oral sex, and barrier methods don't always prevent it. Most risky is the transmission of HSV-1, which typically shows up as sores around the mouth but which can be transmitted from the mouth to the genitals. One study [9] found that women who received oral sex but didn't have vaginal intercourse were more than nine times as likely to contract the virus than sexually inactive women. (That's compared to women who only had vaginal intercourse, which were at a lesser risk.) HSV-2 can also be transmitted from genitals to mouth, although it's rarer.
The other leading risk through oral sex is gonorrhea, says Hurt. STD clinics have reported [10] that 5 to 10 percent of patients have gonorrhea of the throat. Scarier still: Cases of antibiotic-resistant oral gonorrhea are on the rise [11] (meaning these cases are harder to treat but not incurable [12]).
Chlamydia and syphilis are in the second tier of risk through oral sex. A Chicago study [13] found that 13. 7 percent of syphilis cases were attributed to oral sex. Generally, though, it's believed to be uncommon. As for syphilis, that seemingly antiquated infection, it's 'easily transmitted' during oral sex — 'if a person's mouth comes into contact with an open sore or a skin rash caused by the infection, ' according to AVERT.
As for HPV, Hurt says, 'We really don't know what the risk is. But it clearly can infect in and around the mouth, as well as in the genital tract. ' One study [14] described the risk as 'small. ' You've probably seen the scary headlines about oral sex causing cancer, but as I reported in the past, oral cancers linked to HPV are very rare: Approximately five per 100, 000 people. (And most oral cancers are tied to HPV 16, and we have a vaccine for that now).
Further down the list of risk are Hepatitis A, gastrointestinal infections, and parasites, among others — fun times, why'all!
One takeaway is that — sorry, fellatio fans — blow jobs tends to be riskier than cunnilingus. 'Across all STIs and all sex acts, generally the receptive partner is the one at greater risk for STI and HIV acquisition, the idea being that wherever ejaculate winds up, that's also where the greatest burden of infectious material will also wind up, ' says Hurt. But that hardly means that cunnilinguists are in the clear: He also says that the risk of contracting syphilis, herpes or HPV by performing oral sex on a woman is 'arguably just as high' as with fellatio 'since these infections can occur both inside the vagina and on the skin surface. '
There's a yawning gap between sexual health experts' recommendations and people's actual behaviors: A 2004 survey [15]of USA adults found that 82 percent of sexually active participants never used a condom or dental dam during oral sex. A U. K. Survey [16] of 16 to 18 year olds found that only 2 percent of those who had experienced fellatio consistently used condoms. 'It's pretty uncommon for people to actually use condoms or dental dams when performing oral sex, ' says Hurt. Flavored condoms and dental dams help to encourage the practice, but 'they can only go so far towards making [oral sex] through latex or polyurethane a pleasurable experience for either partner. '
So, you see, it's hard to nail down the exact risk of unprotected oral sex, but Hurt says, 'The most important point is that it's all relative, and oral sex isn't risk-free. '
See more stories tagged with:
Cdc [17],
Sex [18],
Disease [19],
Sti [20],
Sexually [21],
Transmitted [22],
Oral [23]
Source URL:
http://www.alternet.org/how-risky-oral-sex
Links:
[1]
http://www.salon.com
[2]
http://www.alternet.org/authors/tracy-clark-flory
[3]
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/19/how_risky_is_oral_sex/
[4]
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57494629-10391704/cdc-report-on-teen-oral-sex-trends-sparks-calls-for-better-education/
[5]
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/two-thirds-u-s-youth-oral-sex-cdc-reports-article-1.1137802
[6]
http://www.avert.org/oral-sex.htm
[7]
http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/hiv?page=basics-00-08
[8]
http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=pr-rr-05
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050308100931.htm
[10]
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/two-thirds-u-s-youth-oral-sex-cdc-reports-article-1.1137802#ixzz23juAsqq1
[11]
http://boingboing.net/2011/07/11/antibiotic-resistant.html
[12]
http://gawker.com/5933459/gonorrhea-is-now-one-antibiotic-away-from-being-untreatable
[13]
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5341a2.htm
[14]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9634307
[15]
http://articles.cnn.com/2004-04-06/health/std.awareness_1_stds-sexual-function-survey?_s=PM:HEALTH
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http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3800606.html
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http://www.alternet.org/tags/cdc
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http://www.alternet.org/tags/sex-0
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http://www.alternet.org/tags/disease-0
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http://www.alternet.org/tags/sti
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http://www.alternet.org/tags/sexually
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http://www.alternet.org/tags/transmitted
[23]
http://www.alternet.org/tags/oral
If you want to inform people about the risk, why didn't you just copy the link to the article and let those interested check out said article? No, you waste half the page copying said article. And you put it in the wrong section on this forum.
And im not sure if quoting something from "boingboing" gives this article much credence.
Forcharles
08-28-12, 02:33
If you want to inform people about the risk, why didn't you just copy the link to the article and let those interested check out said article? No, you waste half the page copying said article. And you put it in the wrong section on this forum.
And I'm not sure if quoting something from "boingboing" gives this article much credence.You may be right, Breadman. Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't realize the article was as long as it appears.
Wrong section? Where should it have been posted?
Fellas,
I will be visiting Frankfurt during September 15-18 at this time the Automechanika Frankfurt Trade Fair will be taking place September 11-16 and I know during Trade Fairs is not a good time to visit the FKK's in Frankfurt because they are packed with guys and the girls will be very busy and that means it will be a sausage fest in the FKK's. I wanted to know if any of you guys had experience visiting FKK's during this http://www.tradefairdates.com/automechanika-M46/Frankfurt.html And how was it out there and was it packed with guys if that's the scenario than I will not be visiting Frankfurt during this time.
Fellas,
I will be visiting Frankfurt during September 15-18 at this time the Automechanika Frankfurt Trade Fair will be taking place September 11-16 and I know during Trade Fairs is not a good time to visit the FKK's in Frankfurt because they are packed with guys and the girls will be very busy and that means it will be a sausage fest in the FKK's. I wanted to know if any of you guys had experience visiting FKK's during this.
http://www.tradefairdates.com/automechanika-M46/Frankfurt.html
And how was it out there and was it packed with guys if that's the scenario than I will not be visiting Frankfurt during this time.It's been said a lot of times: during the Fairs, the FKKs as other place IN THE CITY are overcrowded. Really you'll find more girls working too, but there is anyway some little disease, like waiting time for a room, you must be quick picking a girl when you see someone you like, . But the most terrifing experience is that the girls works fast for work more and the service level goes underground. The alternatives are: if you'll have a car, you can drive up to FKK Word, or Sharks, or other alternative with 30-40 min drive, that it's enought far for the classical people "fair / dinner / club"; if you can't drive so far, you should go in the club before 4 pm and stay till 10 pm. But during such a big fair, staying close to the city will be a little problematic. I've stumbled sometimes in Oase during Fair time, found overcrowded, and I've done everything, nothing dramatic, you could have fun anyway. I only hate when the girls hurry you, because they're already thinking to jump out from the room and catch another customer.
Respect the girls, and have fun.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-30-12, 12:44
I recently rented from Budget (part of Avis) at FRA. Their website said I needed to show an International Driver's license, so I obtained one at AAA for $15. I was never asked to show it. I also used a Capital One Visa credit card without any problems or being asked to show a letter from Visa that said I was insured. However, I carry one with me just in case.
PriceFisher
09-14-12, 06:31
I was hoping someone could help with some questions. I've been there twice but these are things I'm wondering.
1. How often do people repeat the same girl on the same day? It seems that after a session the woman ignores you. As if they know you won't bother.
2. How likely are they to meet you after hours at a hotel room? Is this against the law, against house rules, or just not worth their time?
3. How much is Greek? 30 minutes. Is it 150 euro or 200?
Finally thinking of early November to visit Frankfurt. Any bad dates there?
Thanks!
I was hoping someone could help with some questions. I've been there twice but these are things I'm wondering.
!Thanks. Where have you been lately? What happened at your latest trips? Just curious ...
Angus Magee
09-15-12, 12:30
I was hoping someone could help with some questions. I've been there twice but these are things I'm wondering.
1. How often do people repeat the same girl on the same day? It seems that after a session the woman ignores you. As if they know you won't bother.
2. How likely are they to meet you after hours at a hotel room? Is this against the law, against house rules, or just not worth their time?
3. How much is Greek? 30 minutes. Is it 150 euro or 200?
Finally thinking of early November to visit Frankfurt. Any bad dates there?
Thanks!Nobody seems interested in answering this (perhaps because of the vague way in which the questions are worded?) but I'll give it my opinion.
How often? No idea mate but I know I have done it on occasion. The girls are not ignoring you, rather you have had your session and they are interested in fresh blood. If you are still interested then show some interest. But you might have to make it known that you are up for further paid time as they are really not there to just hang out.
Take out is possible but depends on you being trustable and financially able. Some clubs may have rules in place to discourage it (they may not want girls to make a lot of outside deals cutting them out of their piece of the action) but these can also be seen around. It is certainly not illegal. Keep in mind that it will not be cheap and may not be easy if you re not a regular.
Anal does differ from club to club but will generally be 100 extra on what ever the time of the session.
AM
Nille Copenhagen
09-15-12, 13:03
I was hoping someone could help with some questions. I've been there twice but these are things I'm wondering.
1. How often do people repeat the same girl on the same day? It seems that after a session the woman ignores you. As if they know you won't bother.
2. How likely are they to meet you after hours at a hotel room? Is this against the law, against house rules, or just not worth their time?
Thanks!1. I've done it many times.
I don't experience this ignoring behavior often unless it was a bad session. On the contrary I saw blink, wink and smile and touch when our path crosses in the club.
If you and the girl had fun why should she ignore you?
2. It's possible but not common.
Some of the girl from the FKK clubs, might sleep at the club and would probably not go to your hotel.
Useless she knows and trusts you and you paid her well,
You have better chances calling an escort or pick up girls elsewhere.
Also the girls have worked the entire day / night so there are not much energy left. They just want to sleep.
At some clubs (like VV) you can rent a room for overnight and you invite the girls to sleep with you if you want.
Banana Boi
09-22-12, 13:27
I was scheduled to go to FFM / DUSS next week but had to cancel it until late November or early December. I was wondering when the normal snow season and snowfall is for FFM and NRW.
Nille Copenhagen
09-22-12, 13:49
I was scheduled to go to FFM / DUSS next week but had to cancel it until late November or early December. I was wondering when the normal snow season and snowfall is for FFM and NRW.It rarely snow in November or early December, but it can happen, if you rent a car they will equip you with Winter tires, so you can drive safely in the snow. Keep just keep an eye on the weather forecast a week before.
The real snow season is Jan-Mar.
Hessen Bub
09-22-12, 16:00
I was scheduled to go to FFM / DUSS next week but had to cancel it until late November or early December. I was wondering when the normal snow season and snowfall is for FFM and NRW.It varies from year to year. There might be almost no snow all winter long, but also there might be a lot of snow in November already. Usually highways and major roads are open, so there should be no issues.
HB
Hello, everyone!
I am planning a 10 day trip to Frankfurt, Germany starting December 21, 2012. I live in USA and this is my first mongering trip. I have been reading (as much as I can) the wealth of useful information available on ISG forum. I thank all the forum contributors. It would be a great help if expects on this forum can provide me answers to a few weather and road condition related questions.
My initial plan was to spend most of my time visiting FKK clubs in and around Frankfurt, and visit FKK Artemis, Berlin for a day or two. After reading various posts on this forum, I realized there are good FKK and Suana clubs in NRW area worth visiting. Now my plan is to split my time between NRW area and Frankfurt. Do you guys think this is a good idea?
The list of clubs I would like to visit:
Frankfurt: Oase, Palace, World and Mainhattan.
NRW: Golden Time, Samya, Living Room, Acapulco and Bernd's.
Out of the travel options available to get to the clubs (Public transportation + taxi, taxi and rental car) , I am leaning towards rental car as it offers convenience and flexibility. My plan is to stay near main train station both in Frankfurt and Cologne and get to clubs by rental car. My concern is the weather and road conditions. If weather conditions are bad for driving, I may consider public transportation.
Can any of you give me some info about the typical weather and road conditions during the last 2 weeks of December? Specifically, about the road conditions in getting to above mentioned NRW area clubs from Cologne.
I am worried about snow and sleet at night. How safe (from weather point of view) is it to drive after midnight when the temperature is at its low?
Thanks in advance.
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Bo
Hello, everyone!
I am planning a 10 day trip to Frankfurt, Germany starting December 21, 2012. I live in USA and this is my first mongering trip. I have been reading (as much as I can) the wealth of useful information available on ISG forum. I thank all the forum contributors. It would be a great help if expects on this forum can provide me answers to a few weather and road condition related questions.
My initial plan was to spend most of my time visiting FKK clubs in and around Frankfurt, and visit FKK Artemis, Berlin for a day or two. After reading various posts on this forum, I realized there are good FKK and Suana clubs in NRW area worth visiting. Now my plan is to split my time between NRW area and Frankfurt. Do you guys think this is a good idea?
The list of clubs I would like to visit:
Frankfurt: Oase, Palace, World and Mainhattan.
NRW: Golden Time, Samya, Living Room, Acapulco and Bernd's.
Out of the travel options available to get to the clubs (Public transportation + taxi, taxi and rental car) , I am leaning towards rental car as it offers convenience and flexibility. My plan is to stay near main train station both in Frankfurt and Cologne and get to clubs by rental car. My concern is the weather and road conditions. If weather conditions are bad for driving, I may consider public transportation.
Can any of you give me some info about the typical weather and road conditions during the last 2 weeks of December? Specifically, about the road conditions in getting to above mentioned NRW area clubs from Cologne.
I am worried about snow and sleet at night. How safe (from weather point of view) is it to drive after midnight when the temperature is at its low?
Thanks in advance.
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Bo
I am planning a 10 day trip to Frankfurt, Germany starting December 21, 2012. I live in USA and this is my first mongering trip. I have been reading (as much as I can) the wealth of useful information available on ISG forum.
Good idea to come here, and a good source of information.
My initial plan was to spend most of my time visiting FKK clubs in and around Frankfurt,Check out Dietzenbach. By far the best value for money.
I realized there are good FKK and Suana clubs in NRW area worth visiting. Now my plan is to split my time between NRW area and Frankfurt. Do you guys think this is a good idea?For traditional FKK clubs, probably not worth the effort; there are enough in and around Frankfurt. However, if you are into Partytreffs, definitely go to NRW, since there are no good ones in or near Frankfurt. Check out the Partytreff forum. In particular, I recommend Partytreff Mettmann, especially when Ute is there. Do you want the best sexual experience you have ever had? That would be a "normal" session with Ute.
Out of the travel options available to get to the clubs (Public transportation + taxi, taxi and rental car) , I am leaning towards rental car as it offers convenience and flexibility. My plan is to stay near main train station both in Frankfurt and Cologne and get to clubs by rental car. My concern is the weather and road conditions. If weather conditions are bad for driving, I may consider public transportation.Regardless of the weather, I wouldn't recommend a rental car inside a large city, even if you are familiar with the city and traffic. Go with public transportation or taxi if you are coming back late.
Can any of you give me some info about the typical weather and road conditions during the last 2 weeks of December? Specifically, about the road conditions in getting to above mentioned NRW area clubs from Cologne.December will be cold. Whether or not it is wet, if there is snow etc is hard to say. In general, heavily travelled roads will be cleared but smaller ones (some of the clubs are rather out of the way) might not be.
I am worried about snow and sleet at night. How safe (from weather point of view) is it to drive after midnight when the temperature is at its low?In general I wouldn't worry about the weather if you are a careful driver. However, you might want to go without a car for other reasons.
Check out Dietzenbach. By far the best value for money.
For traditional FKK clubs, probably not worth the effort; there are enough in and around Frankfurt. However, if you are into Partytreffs, definitely go to NRW, since there are no good ones in or near Frankfurt. Check out the Partytreff forum. In particular, I recommend Partytreff Mettmann, especially when Ute is there. Do you want the best sexual experience you have ever had? That would be a "normal" session with Ute.
Regardless of the weather, I wouldn't recommend a rental car inside a large city, even if you are familiar with the city and traffic. Go with public transportation or taxi if you are coming back late.Thank you SvenFKK and Vito Corleone for your responses.
SvenFKK,
I am glad to know that NRW area offers more exotic options like Partytreffs, though I am not yet adventurous enough to try them. I will stick with FKK / Suanas for this trip. I am new this hobby, and I kind of prefer safer (hence boring.) sex options. With that said, I rather go to FKK / Saunas with prettier working girls. Let me know if you know of any (other than the ones I have on my list).
I appreciate the info you have provided. I am reconsidering my trip to cologne. Worst case, I may go there for a day or two. I will try to check out Dietzenbach.
my initial plan was to spend most of my time visiting fkk clubs in and around frankfurt, and visit fkk artemis, berlin for a day or two. after reading various posts on this forum, i realized there are good fkk and suana clubs in nrw area worth visiting. now my plan is to split my time between nrw area and frankfurt. do you guys think this is a good idea?
the list of clubs i would like to visit:
frankfurt: oase, palace, world and mainhattan.
nrw: golden time, samya, living room, acapulco and bernd's.bo, as long as you are staying in germany for 10 days, i would recommend venturing outside of frankfurt during part of your trip. frankfurt is a nice city, but compared to a city like berlin, it's not very interesting. it does have the advantage of offering relatively easy access to several excellent clubs, three of which i'm familiar with, oase, mainhattan and world. but do you really want to spend most of your time inside the clubs? i prefer to do something else during the day and go to a club at night. there's lots to do and see in berlin, more than enough to hold your interest for a few days. furthermore, artemis is a great club that somehow has a different vibe than the frankfurt clubs. there are also some nice traditional brothels in berlin, inc case you want to try something different. it's easy to travel back and forth between berlin and frankfurt by high-speed train-the trip only takes 4-5 hours, depending on whether you get a direct train or have to make a change somewhere. i would not drive a car from frankfurt to berlin. the car would be useless in the city, as the public transport system is great.
as for whether you need a car to visit the frankfurt clubs, i would say that a car is the best way to get to oase and world. of course, that assumes that you feel comfortable driving in germany, you're not afraid of the possibility of a little bad weather and you bring along a gps with preloaded maps of europe. it's possible to get to oase (fairly easy) and world (less easy) by public transport, but a car is better. you might want to rent a car just for those days when you plan to go to oase and world. there's no point in driving a car to mainhattan and palace.
if you do get a car, you may want to stay outside the downtown core, because driving in the downtown of a big european city is not fun. parking is expensive. if i had a car in frankfurt, i would consider staying at the airport (the hilton garden inn is nice) where parking and access is easy. there are excellent public transport (s-bahn) connections from the airport to downtown.
one downside of a car is the cost of the rental. it's more expensive than the usa and you might find that the total cost of public transport and taxis is cheaper than a car, especially if you are the only driver and not sharing the cost.
also, keep in mind that christmas day is one day that almost all clubs are closed, i think. i don't know what the lineups will be like during christmas time, but i would guess that some girls take off during the holidays. but there will always be some girls trying to make money.
Forcharles
10-16-12, 19:01
Sometimes at an FKK I just want to relax and watch the scenery. Then I take my time to go to the room. In some clubs the girls are rather aggressive about getting me in a session.
So I've come up with some suggestions on how to say "No" without burning bridges behind me. I want to be polite and may want to go with a girl whom I've turned away.
I'd like to hear from you if you have some additional ones:
"I just came from a room."
"Not now. Maybe later."
"I'm not in the mood right now."
"I've already promised another girl that I'd go with her."
"I'm waiting for dinner. I'm starving."
"Do you smoke? I prefer a non-smoker."
"I'm waiting for a friend who's never been here before. I promised to show him around."
"I just ate dinner and too tired to go with anyone."
"I prefer a blonde / brunette."
"I'm going to the toilet right now."
more exotic options like Partytreffs, though I am not yet adventurous enough to try them. I will stick with FKK / Suanas for this trip. with prettier working girls. Let me know if you know of any (other than the ones I have on my list).Partytreff's exotic? What reports have you been reading? You'll get a run down club, a bunch of run down women who wouldn't be allowed to work in a regular club (ok. 90% you might find one or two girls).
If your going to rent a car, stay outside the large city's and get a hotel that would allow you to club hop. This will also keep any car damage to a minimum since hotels outside of a downtown core will have their own parking lot.
Also, keep in mind that Christmas day is one day that almost all clubs are closed, I think. I don't know what the lineups will be like during Christmas time, but I would guess that some girls take off during the holidays. But there will always be some girls trying to make money.Oase opens at 1pm or maybe 2 pm on 25 December.
World opens at 3pm on 25 December and has a DJ playing.
Both are good days in the clubs. Depends on what you like.
Indi Companion
10-18-12, 10:36
Oase opens at 1pm or maybe 2 pm on 25 December.
World opens at 3pm on 25 December and has a DJ playing.
Both are good days in the clubs. Depends on what you like.It is less easy to find an open club on 24th December than on Christmas. Many clubs are open that day. Last years over Christmas and New Year time there were more than reasonably good line-ups in many clubs.
Hessen Bub
10-19-12, 10:00
It is less easy to find an open club on 24th December than on Christmas.Paradise in Stuttgart (Leinfelden-Echterdingen) was open on December 24 last year, so there's a chance they will be open that day this year. Check their website.
HB
Does one really new "excuses". Just say NO!
Sometimes at an FKK I just want to relax and watch the scenery. Then I take my time to go to the room. In some clubs the girls are rather aggressive about getting me in a session.
So I've come up with some suggestions on how to say "No" without burning bridges behind me. I want to be polite and may want to go with a girl whom I've turned away.
I'd like to hear from you if you have some additional ones:
"I just came from a room."
"Not now. Maybe later."
"I'm not in the mood right now."
"I've already promised another girl that I'd go with her."
"I'm waiting for dinner. I'm starving."
"Do you smoke? I prefer a non-smoker."
"I'm waiting for a friend who's never been here before. I promised to show him around."
"I just ate dinner and too tired to go with anyone."
"I prefer a blonde / brunette."
"I'm going to the toilet right now."
So I've come up with some suggestions on how to say "No" without burning bridges behind me. I want to be polite and may want to go with a girl whom I've turned away.
I'd like to hear from you if you have some additional ones:
"I'm going to the toilet right now."Tell the girl: "I am gay." That always gets a laugh from the girl or a confused look.
Conversely, you can say, "I am Lesbian, I like to lick the pussy."
When a girl ask me where my friend is, I sometimes say that,"He has gone to toliet to do a big shit and then he want to book you for the room." It plants an image in the girl's mind and it interesting to see.
Paradise in Stuttgart (Leinfelden-Echterdingen) was open on December 24 last year, so there's a chance they will be open that day this year. Check their website.
HBIf the Paradise is open December 24 then maybe Palace open December 24 too. The two clubs have connection, no?
bo, as long as you are staying in germany for 10 days, i would recommend venturing outside of frankfurt during part of your trip. frankfurt is a nice city, but compared to a city like berlin, it's not very interesting. it does have the advantage of offering relatively easy access to several excellent clubs, three of which i'm familiar with, oase, mainhattan and world. but do you really want to spend most of your time inside the clubs? i prefer to do something else during the day and go to a club at night. there's lots to do and see in berlin, more than enough to hold your interest for a few days. furthermore, artemis is a great club that somehow has a different vibe than the frankfurt clubs. there are also some nice traditional brothels in berlin, inc case you want to try something different. it's easy to travel back and forth between berlin and frankfurt by high-speed train-the trip only takes 4-5 hours, depending on whether you get a direct train or have to make a change somewhere. i would not drive a car from frankfurt to berlin. the car would be useless in the city, as the public transport system is great.captrenno, i appreciate your response and advice. i am totally with you on sightseeing. i can't imagine spending 10-15 hours a day in clubs, and doing that for 10 days. i thought rental car would give me flexibility to mix sightseeing with primary fun activity:) unfortunately, weather is a big unknown at this point. i will decide whether to rent a car or not based on the weather conditions when i get there.
i have been tweaking my trip itinerary based on recommendations / advice received so far on this board. here is my current and possibly final version:
frankfurt (4 days) to cologne (2 days) to berlin (2 days) to frankfurt (2 days).
If the Paradise is open December 24 then maybe Palace open December 24 too. The two clubs have connection, no?I emailed some of the clubs to see if they are open during Christmas time (December 24 and 25). Here is what I know so far. Palace will be open on December 24. Also, there is 90% chance that they will be open on December 31. Goldentime is closed on December 24, and will open on 25.
Indi Companion
10-22-12, 10:54
I emailed some of the clubs to see if they are open during Christmas time (December 24 and 25). Here is what I know so far. Palace will be open on December 24. Also, there is 90% chance that they will be open on December 31. Goldentime is closed on December 24, and will open on 25.Acapulco and Sharks hold a Silvester Party on 31st last year. I attended the one in Sharks with some friends and it was a lot of fun. With girls from all other clubs attending the party.
Hello all,
I was suppose to visit Europe last month for a business trip and had planned on spending a few days in Berlin. Anyway, that trip got cancelled. Now I have another trip coming up in 1st week of Jan to Frankfurt and I was thinking of getting their early and spending 4-5 nites (30th- 3rd Jan) exploring the FKKs of Germany. I found out Artemis will be shut on 31st and 1st, so my option is Frankfurt. I called oase to find out but the lady who answered the phone did not speak English. I was wondering if you anyone of you can let me know if Oase and Palace would be open between 30th. 2nd Jan. Also how about the line up in case they are open. I am sure line up will be thin compared to normal working days but would be good enough to have fun? I. E. Is it worth visiting FKKs during that time? I have some urgent work back home after my business trip in Germany, otherwise I would have rather explored FKKs after I was done with business in Germany.
Alex
Indi Companion
10-23-12, 16:43
Hello all,
I was suppose to visit Europe last month for a business trip and had planned on spending a few days in Berlin. Anyway, that trip got cancelled. Now I have another trip coming up in 1st week of Jan to Frankfurt and I was thinking of getting their early and spending 4-5 nites (30th- 3rd Jan) exploring the FKKs of Germany. I found out Artemis will be shut on 31st and 1st, so my option is Frankfurt. I called oase to find out but the lady who answered the phone did not speak English. I was wondering if you anyone of you can let me know if Oase and Palace would be open between 30th. 2nd Jan. Also how about the line up in case they are open. I am sure line up will be thin compared to normal working days but would be good enough to have fun? I. E. Is it worth visiting FKKs during that time? I have some urgent work back home after my business trip in Germany, otherwise I would have rather explored FKKs after I was done with business in Germany.
AlexOase and Palace last year closed only on December 31. They were open the other days.
Line-ups will be for sure thinner even if some girls around already told me they will take a break in November which is the slowest month and will be in Germany and working over Christmas time.
Last year the number of girls was more tha enough for a lot of fun. You have to think that mongers will be just a handful over these days. That also helps.
http://www.sixsens.eu/de/index.php
Club will open Saturday Oktober 27.
Frej Of Asgaard
10-24-12, 21:47
Well to add to some hard data to the discussion about Oral Without Condom and sexually transmitted diseases.
You can catch Gonnorhea and Chlamydia from unprotected Oral sex.
And in this August I actually DID catch a bad case of gonnorhea on a FKK roundtrip. Which club and girl is impossile to narrow down because of the incubation time. But all intercourses was with condom and there was no cases of a broken condom, so oral transfer is the only possible way.
In my time I have probably had OWO from around 100-150 FKK girls, and this is the first time I catch anything. So the probability of catching something from a single session is not high, but if you keep doing it then most likely some day the numbers will catch up to you.
By the way both Gonorhea an Chlamydia are still cureable by the right antibiotics, but more and more strains of the diseases are becoming multi-resistant to many types of antibiotics.
For Gonorhea the doctors are down to just one functional drug.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonorrhea
Gonorea is a really bad disease if it cannot be treated. If left untreated it can become disseminated. That is go into the bloodstream. Possibly causing blindness and maybe menigitis in rare cases. Menigitis can be terminal in some cases if you cannot treat it. In the old days Gonorhea was a very feared disease.
When the day comes where Gonorhea have become resistant to the last drug we may have to cancel our OWO practices, because then it will only be a matter of time before we have fatalities. And then Gonorhea will probably overtake HIV / AIDS as the most feared STD.
I will stay overnight in Munich for connecting flight and as I will be arriving at 6 pm I think I have enough time to hit some of the better clubs in Ingolstadt or Augsburd, rather than wasting time and money in Munich. Which one is better option. Hawai or Coloseum? Most important factor for me is the time needed to get to as I won't have much time and how easily accesible by public transport would be as I don't feel renting car. Also I will have 8 a clock flight in the morning so the return trip to Munich airport is also concern. And then of course, which club has better lineup on Sunday evening?
I was just hawaii on Saturday night. It's large and spacious. 80% of the girls are from Romania. I spent time with Eva and Tanya. Both are tall blonde and service oriented. I wanted to try Dalia, a short German with girl next door looks. She didn't smile much but seemed the most natural.
I suggest you go to Hawaii because its easy to get to. From the airport, it's north on the A9 for about 40 minutes. From the exit, it's about 3 minutes. In fact you can stay nearby at the hotel Ammerland which is quite nice and indicative of a small German hotel.
Have fun and drive safely. It was snowing over the weekend.
I will stay overnight in Munich for connecting flight and as I will be arriving at 6 pm I think I have enough time to hit some of the better clubs in Ingolstadt or Augsburd, rather than wasting time and money in Munich. Which one is better option. Hawai or Coloseum? Most important factor for me is the time needed to get to as I won't have much time and how easily accesible by public transport would be as I don't feel renting car. Also I will have 8 a clock flight in the morning so the return trip to Munich airport is also concern. And then of course, which club has better lineup on Sunday evening?
I will stay overnight in Munich for connecting flight and as I will be arriving at 6 pm I think I have enough time to hit some of the better clubs in Ingolstadt or Augsburd, rather than wasting time and money in Munich. Which one is better option. Hawai or Coloseum? Most important factor for me is the time needed to get to as I won't have much time and how easily accesible by public transport would be as I don't feel renting car. Also I will have 8 a clock flight in the morning so the return trip to Munich airport is also concern. And then of course, which club has better lineup on Sunday evening?If you don't rent a car, you may be better off taking a bus direct form the airport to Augsburg centre, and then a 10 euros 's cab.
When the day comes where Gonorhea have become resistant to the last drug we may have to cancel our OWO practices, because then it will only be a matter of time before we have fatalities. And then Gonorhea will probably overtake HIV / AIDS as the most feared STD.And soon after the apocalypse.
Are you that really frightened, or are you here trying to frighten everyone away from the hobby, as a disguised preacher?
Yes, it is true that there are resistances, but there are far more than one drug working against gonorhea and chlamydia, and 99. 99 % of the cases are safely cured by those.
Of course, like in any human activity, having sex does involve risks, but your chance to die from gonorrhea are less than from boarding an aircraft.
If you don't rent a car, you may be better off taking a bus direct form the airport to Augsburg centre, and then a 10 euros 's cab.It seems like it is good idea to rent a car, but I never rented a car in Germany. How much do I expect to pay including insurance? What are good sites to search for deals on rental cars in Munich?
And this bus to Augbsurg. Is it regular? Is there web site I can check the schedules?
Frej Of Asgaard
10-30-12, 22:40
and soon after the apocalypse.
are you that really frightened, or are you here trying to frighten everyone away from the hobby, as a disguised preacher?no i am not a preacher. if you read some of my old reports, you will discovered that i am very far from being a preacher.
when i wrote i had a really bad case of gonorhea i meant it. in my case it went to the eyes also and triggered an autoimmune inflammation on one of my eyes which caused my eyesight to go blurry for 2-3 weeks, caused servere dizzyness and had the potential to cause a permanent reduction of my eyesight. sure the injected antibiotics killed the original infection but i had to call in sick from work for many days because of the eye.
after i got it i did my research on how bad it could actually get, and honestly that scared me a little bit.
the point is, that i previously thought, that the risks involved with uncovered blowjobs was limited to the following worst case: i would have some pain while peeing for some days, but pills would make it go away in some days. i can easilly handle a little pain.
unfortunately i was wrong, and i never imagined i could get into that much trouble from uncovered oral sex.
yes, it is true that there are resistances, but there are far more than one drug working against gonorhea and chlamydia, and 99. 99 % of the cases are safely cured by those.gonorhea and chlamydia is not treated the same way anymore. they might have been historically. chlamydia can still be cured from different kinds of antibiotics. gonorhea is getting worse.
in the scandinavian specialised hospital clinics for std's they now use an injected antibiotic (ceftriaxone) , because that is the only drug they can be sure will work. there have actually been a single case in japan with a strain of gonorhea resistant to that one also. luckily it was not resistant to some of the other older drugs, as far as i can read from the us cdc website:
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/17/1/10-0397_article.htm
of course, like in any human activity, having sex does involve risks, but your chance to die from gonorrhea are less than from boarding an aircraft.so far you are right. in fact i would hazard that the risk of dying from gonorhea so far, is down to a pure 0% if you have access to healthcare. but when the day comes where we have multiresistant gonorhea then healthcare becomes irrelevant.
this leads to the following logical conclusions:
if you want to be sure to not be one of the first to catch fully resistant gonorhea some day, then be boring and use condoms for the blowjobs also. eliminates the method of transfer.
on the other hand. the probabilty of you being first is miniscule. so you can continue until the day when you read about some other unlucky person, who got a multiresistant strain and got in serious trouble. and until that day you can even argue that you should go hurry and have as much owo sex as possible while you still can! .
Sorry guys if this message is not a report. But.
I'm very deep into black girls when I go in these clubs.
Which is the current situation?
I need number of girls present and if possible name and performance.
Better africans, but I have no problems with latin-ASS.)
Thank U very much!
Italia77
Gentleman,
I will be arriving Frankfort at 7 am and leaving 10 PM same day (Thursday). This stop to visit FKK.
My question to the pros, do I need to book a hotel or should I just go to the FKK.
Second, what is the best place for morning crowd. I have been to Oase and Mainhattan in the past. I like Oasis more but never went this early in the morning.
Sorry guys if this message is not a report. But.
I'm very deep into black girls when I go in these clubs.
Which is the current situation?
I need number of girls present and if possible name and performance.
Better africans, but I have no problems with latin-ASS.)
Thank U very much!
Italia77Magnum (Dusseldorf) has the largest selection of African girls. I remember for sure that two of them from Gana, one is from Kenia. Forgot where others Africans from. Jamaicans are there either.
Frej Of Asgaard
11-08-12, 21:05
I hope I did not scare too many people with my story about Gonorrhea. I should probably point out that my case was a quite unlucky one in terms of added futher complications. Nevertheless, I am just fine again now.
I discovered that Wikipedia actually have some quite factual information about what kind of STD's you can get from what kind of sex. There is a very clear table in the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_disease
Under "receiving oral sex. Man" (I. E. Receiving a blowjob uncovered) it lists the following "not so nice opportunities":
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea.
Non-gonococcal urethritis.
Herpes.
Syphilis (1%)
The 1% under syphilis is the probability of you being infected IF and only IF the girl giving the blowjob has syphillis.
Please note that HIV is NOT on the list.
All the disease above can so far be treated and cured with medicine except for Herpes. However the medical consequences of herpes are relatively harmless in almost all cases.
If you get treatment fast then things should not escalate into anyhing problematic. So just make sure that your medical insurance is functional before you go to an fkk, and be sure to know where to get medical help during the following 1-2 weeks, in case any symptoms appear. Unless you do all blowjobs covered. (honestly. That requires a lot of willpower)
An unlisted potential side effect common for all these STDs can be Divorce papers for married men if the wife finds out and does not believe in forgiveness. If you fear that might happen then maybe you can find the willpower to do everything covered.
Just completed booking a rental car for my two upcoming two week trips. Was having a hard time finding anything decent. All my normal search's thru sixt, avis (both the us and the german website) and many others were quoting me some pretty high rates for an economy type rental. Over 400 euro's in most case's. One of the cheaper rates was actually thru orbitz and expedia for around 250 euro's for a two week rental. I actually beat that when I booked thru United and got Hertz for 201 euro's for a two week rental (and I get airmiles for renting thru them). Got the same deal for both Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. Avis was a few euro's more. Chose Hertz because they quoted me a ford fiesta or similar. Every economy car I've rented has always been large enough for two guys with their luggage.
Smoky Jack
11-12-12, 23:51
just completed booking a rental car for my two upcoming two week trips. was having a hard time finding anything decent. all my normal search's thru sixt, avis (both the us and the german website) and many others were quoting me some pretty high rates for an economy type rental. over 400 euro's in most case's. one of the cheaper rates was actually thru orbitz and expedia for around 250 euro's for a two week rental. i actually beat that when i booked thru united and got hertz for 201 euro's for a two week rental (and i get airmiles for renting thru them). got the same deal for both frankfurt and dusseldorf. avis was a few euro's more. chose hertz because they quoted me a ford fiesta or similar. every economy car i've rented has always been large enough for two guys with their luggage.i bought a 5 day train pass that will allow me to go anywhere on the ice high speed train network for 200 euros. good for solo travellers.
i bought a 5 day train pass that will allow me to go anywhere on the ice high speed train network for 200 euros. good for solo travellers.does this fare allow you to travel from say amsterdam to frankfurt? or london to cologne? or is it limited to germany?
i land in germany and all of my destinations are out in the sticks, pubic transportation would restrict the time available in the clubs.
Just completed booking a rental car for my two upcoming two week trips. Was having a hard time finding anything decent. All my normal search's thru sixt, avis (both the us and the german website) and many others were quoting me some pretty high rates for an economy type rental. Over 400 euro's in most case's. One of the cheaper rates was actually thru orbitz and expedia for around 250 euro's for a two week rental. I actually beat that when I booked thru United and got Hertz for 201 euro's for a two week rental (and I get airmiles for renting thru them). Got the same deal for both Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. Avis was a few euro's more. Chose Hertz because they quoted me a ford fiesta or similar. Every economy car I've rented has always been large enough for two guys with their luggage.If you are like me and can't drive manual, it's a little more. 290 EUR for a week with automatic and GPS via Avis
I hope I did not scare too many people with my story about Gonorrhea. I should probably point out that my case was a quite unlucky one in terms of added futher complications. Nevertheless, I am just fine again now.
I discovered that Wikipedia actually have some quite factual information about what kind of STD's you can get from what kind of sex. There is a very clear table in the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexually_transmitted_disease
Under "receiving oral sex. Man" (I. E. Receiving a blowjob uncovered) it lists the following "not so nice opportunities":
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea.
Non-gonococcal urethritis.
Herpes.
Syphilis (1%)
The 1% under syphilis is the probability of you being infected IF and only IF the girl giving the blowjob has syphillis.
Please note that HIV is NOT on the list.
All the disease above can so far be treated and cured with medicine except for Herpes. However the medical consequences of herpes are relatively harmless in almost all cases.
If you get treatment fast then things should not escalate into anyhing problematic. So just make sure that your medical insurance is functional before you go to an fkk, and be sure to know where to get medical help during the following 1-2 weeks, in case any symptoms appear. Unless you do all blowjobs covered. (honestly. That requires a lot of willpower)
An unlisted potential side effect common for all these STDs can be Divorce papers for married men if the wife finds out and does not believe in forgiveness. If you fear that might happen then maybe you can find the willpower to do everything covered.A much more balanced post than your previous ones.
But please move this discussion into the relevant thread, it has nothing specific to FKKs.
If you are like me and can't drive manual, it's a little more. 290 EUR for a week with automatic and GPS via AvisDo you have a friend with a car that's a stick? Family member willing to teach you for a case of beer? Get the hang of it with their car and then rent one at home and drive it around for the weekend, by Sunday you'd be a professional. As to the gps expense, the garmin nuvi 270 can be found used for under $100 on ebay and amazon. I'll admit, most of the low rates I find is due to the length of rental. I always rent for 2 weeks or more. And I always rent an economy or compact car, I've only had issue's once years back from that now closed company that used to promise you 'either' a smart car or a ford fiesta. The fiesta was the perfect size, the one time I got a smart car was the last time I ever rented from this agency.
For a new to the FKK scene which club in Frankfurt would you recommend?
World, Palace, Oase, Mainhatan or any other.
BTW I have a rental
Greetings to all,
I am new to this forum, I've contributed to the Tijuana forum sometimes and tried to help anyone who wants to, however, I am planning my first trip to Frankfurt and their wonderful FFKs, I've read the past postings on this forums and I already know which FKK's I should visit, how to find a hotel near the FKK's.
Now, these are the questions that I've still have to answer:
1- Are there any FKK's near a metro station? I am asking because I haven't decided to either rent a car or just take the metro, like everyone new to FKK's, I really don't want to rent a car because I don't know the city, but if I have to I will, however, if the FKK's are near the metro stations I would really like to skip the car.
2- Do FKK's have any English speaking personnel? I don't speak a word of German, I am planning to take google's translator with me as a tool, but that's it, if that doesn't work I am screwed, I also speak Spanish (I am Mexican) so any of the two will do.
3- Do FKK's, hotels and Frankfurt in general have parking? I guess this is a question about parking in general, if I have to rent a car, how difficult it is to park a car in Frankfurt in general, keep in mind that I don't speak German. I've visited Manhattan and didn't rent a car because it is hell to park cars, where I did rent a car and regretted it was in Miami, parking was very expensive.
4- How accessible is WIFI? Google's translator uses the internet, if I don't have internet it won't work, do coffee shops, hotels, shopping malls, FKK's give WIFI? If not, then I would be very restricted in communication with people in general.
5- I plan to purchase the GPS TomTom application for my iPhone, has anyone used this?
The reasons of my questions is in order to make my ultimate decision, should I make the trip by myself or pay one of those FKK tours on the internet, I am a very outgoing person and wouldn't mind doing it alone, but I am trying to determine the cost / benefit of those tours, I guess that for someone who has already gone to FKK and know how things work a tour is worthless, but for someone like me, who has never been to Frankfurt and doesn't speak German it's a real option.
Well, thank you in advance to anyone who answers, and if any of you want information on Tijuana, or if you're ever in town, don't hesitate to contact me, I've always liked to show people around Tijuana's monguer scene.
For a new to the FKK scene which club in Frankfurt would you recommend?
World, Palace, Oase, Mainhatan or any other.
BTW I have a rentalIf you have 4 days then go to all of them, one club per day but for Mainhattan you can allocate half a day so use Mainhattan for the day you are travelling in or out of Frankfurt.
If you have 3 days then do Oase, Palace and World.
If you have 2 days then do Oase and one of Mainhattan or Palace.
If you have 1 day then do Oase.
Forcharles
11-16-12, 06:12
Is it better to reserve / rent a car from the Internet? Do you get better rates? Or are the prices the same if you simply show up at the rental counter at the airport?
Greetings to all,
I am new to this forum, I've contributed to the Tijuana forum sometimes and tried to help anyone who wants to, however, I am planning my first trip to Frankfurt and their wonderful FFKs, I've read the past postings on this forums and I already know which FKK's I should visit, how to find a hotel near the FKK's.
Now, these are the questions that I've still have to answer:
1- Are there any FKK's near a metro station? I am asking because I haven't decided to either rent a car or just take the metro, like everyone new to FKK's, I really don't want to rent a car because I don't know the city, but if I have to I will, however, if the FKK's are near the metro stations I would really like to skip the car.
2- Do FKK's have any English speaking personnel? I don't speak a word of German, I am planning to take google's translator with me as a tool, but that's it, if that doesn't work I am screwed, I also speak Spanish (I am Mexican) so any of the two will do.
3- Do FKK's, hotels and Frankfurt in general have parking? I guess this is a question about parking in general, if I have to rent a car, how difficult it is to park a car in Frankfurt in general, keep in mind that I don't speak German. I've visited Manhattan and didn't rent a car because it is hell to park cars, where I did rent a car and regretted it was in Miami, parking was very expensive.
4- How accessible is WIFI? Google's translator uses the internet, if I don't have internet it won't work, do coffee shops, hotels, shopping malls, FKK's give WIFI? If not, then I would be very restricted in communication with people in general.
5- I plan to purchase the GPS TomTom application for my iPhone, has anyone used this?
The reasons of my questions is in order to make my ultimate decision, should I make the trip by myself or pay one of those FKK tours on the internet, I am a very outgoing person and wouldn't mind doing it alone, but I am trying to determine the cost / benefit of those tours, I guess that for someone who has already gone to FKK and know how things work a tour is worthless, but for someone like me, who has never been to Frankfurt and doesn't speak German it's a real option.
Well, thank you in advance to anyone who answers, and if any of you want information on Tijuana, or if you're ever in town, don't hesitate to contact me, I've always liked to show people around Tijuana's monguer scene.1. Palace near industrihof stop.
2. Yes, almost everyone speaks enough English to have fun. I speak no German and have zero problems
3. Some yes some no. Some paid fee some free. Parking can be a pain in the ass if you aren't used to parallel but some areas aren't that bad
4. Palace back room you can steal wifi from Flemings hotel next door (no password). I had no issues with ipad but I'm told its officially not allowed in club (anything with camera)
5. The iOS 5 basic map has always worked fine for me on foot; car rentals I get their gps
Neutron Flux
11-16-12, 08:34
1- Are there any FKK's near a metro station? I am asking because I haven't decided to either rent a car or just take the metro, like everyone new to FKK's, I really don't want to rent a car because I don't know the city, but if I have to I will, however, if the FKK's are near the metro stations I would really like to skip the car.
2- Do FKK's have any English speaking personnel? I don't speak a word of German, I am planning to take google's translator with me as a tool, but that's it, if that doesn't work I am screwed, I also speak Spanish (I am Mexican) so any of the two will do.
3- Do FKK's, hotels and Frankfurt in general have parking? I guess this is a question about parking in general, if I have to rent a car, how difficult it is to park a car in Frankfurt in general, keep in mind that I don't speak German. I've visited Manhattan and didn't rent a car because it is hell to park cars, where I did rent a car and regretted it was in Miami, parking was very expensive.
4- How accessible is WIFI? Google's translator uses the internet, if I don't have internet it won't work, do coffee shops, hotels, shopping malls, FKK's give WIFI? If not, then I would be very restricted in communication with people in general.
5- I plan to purchase the GPS TomTom application for my iPhone, has anyone used this?Hi Jim,
1) Almost all major FKKs are very easy to get to via public transport using train and / or bus. Use http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query2.exe/en. I rarely have a car when I'm in the area. Oase includes a short taxi ride (10 euros one-way). FKK World is not good and includes a longer taxi ride (30 euros).
2) You will be fine in all major FKKs and anywhere in the country as long as you don't stray into the countryside too much. Spanish will help you with some girls.
3) See Meeps reply.
4) Hotels: usually, but you should check. Coffeeshops: some. FKKs: Usually not allowed to use mobiles, except for select areas, no free signal. But just speak English.
The reasons of my questions is in order to make my ultimate decision, should I make the trip by myself or pay one of those FKK tours on the internet, I am a very outgoing person and wouldn't mind doing it alone, but I am trying to determine the cost / benefit of those tours, I guess that for someone who has already gone to FKK and know how things work a tour is worthless, but for someone like me, who has never been to Frankfurt and doesn't speak German it's a real option.Don't know how much these cost, but probably a waste of money, it's not that difficult. If you go in late November / early December, I will probably in the area as well and can show you around a bit if you like, I'm German. Preferably on a Saturday though.
Neutron Flux
11-16-12, 08:35
Is it better to reserve / rent a car from the Internet? Do you get better rates? Or are the prices the same if you simply show up at the rental counter at the airport?Always book over the internet (and well in advance, if you can) , much cheaper.
Jim.
For public transport use www.bahn.de And get the English option. It is brilliant in providing public transport options.
Personally I would not worry about language problems. Just learn a few basic german phrases out of politeness.
Also I don't think there is any need to join a tour unless you feel you would like the company.
Forcharles. NEVER just walk up to car hire. Use internet. Avoid Dollar and Thrifty in Germany. They are franchised to Terstappen and are well known scam artists where foreigners are concerned
Ah! Thank you for all your responses, I've decided to go on my own and rent a car and follow fate, after all, adversity is part of the adventure, maybe it will create founder memories for when I'm old.
I will report my trip in this forum for all to read, and remember, my offer still stands, if someone ever decides to visit Tijuana consider me as your guide to my city.
Thank you all and happy monguering!
All For Bb
11-22-12, 22:56
I plan for a visit in the first week of December. The lineup would be down then because too close to holidays that girls would go home already? Any ideas about the possible line-up for early December? Thanks.
Do you ask for locations in a specific area? Please make your question more specific.
All For Bb
11-23-12, 18:37
Do you ask for locations in a specific area? Please make your question more specific.Steave69 and others:
I plan to visit world, orsi, gt, living room, vv, samya, in the first 10 days of December. The lineup would be down then because too close to holidays that girls would go home already? Any ideas about the possible line-up for early December? Thanks.
Steave69 and others:
I plan to visit world, orsi, gt, living room, vv, samya, in the first 10 days of December. The lineup would be down then because too close to holidays that girls would go home already? Any ideas about the possible line-up for early December? Thanks.The first week in December will be fine. I would not worry about it.
I am a big Movie Buff, and I mean regular movies not just porn. I am also very fond of European film in general, and I love watching films or documentaries about prostitutes.
To my knowledge there still haven't been any films made either about or that feature big FKK clubs or Sauna clubs, places like Oase or World etc. Surely some aspiring film maker could make an interesting movie about some poor girls leaving Romania to work in an FKK club in Frankfurt, but then it doesn't workout for some of the girls because they are not attractive enough, and they have to take a job in a Partytreff before finally ending up in a bareback apartment in Krefeld or working on the street or whatever!!
If anyone knows of any such movies please post.
BTW I recently watched a very entertaining series about girls being trafficked from Russia to Belgium. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320882/ Absolutely excellent.
I am a big Movie Buff, and I mean regular movies not just porn. I am also very fond of European film in general, and I love watching films or documentaries about prostitutes.
To my knowledge there still haven't been any films made either about or that feature big FKK clubs or Sauna clubs, places like Oase or World etc. Surely some aspiring film maker could make an interesting movie about some poor girls leaving Romania to work in an FKK club in Frankfurt, but then it doesn't workout for some of the girls because they are not attractive enough, and they have to take a job in a Partytreff before finally ending up in a bareback apartment in Krefeld or working on the street or whatever!
If anyone knows of any such movies please post.
BTW I recently watched a very entertaining series about girls being trafficked from Russia to Belgium.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320882/
Absolutely excellent.Currently lots of greek model like girls escaping greece in an emergency exit (as the magazine tell us about). What do you know about that?
Member #2453
12-03-12, 14:08
Just watched that Movie, that was great any other similar movies related to prostitution. Thanks.
BTW I recently watched a very entertaining series about girls being trafficked from Russia to Belgium.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0320882/
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4- How accessible is WIFI? Google's translator uses the internet, if I don't have internet it won't work, do coffee shops, hotels, shopping malls, FKK's give WIFI? If not, then I would be very restricted in communication with people in general.Wifi is very widely available in Germany. I stayed in several different moderately priced small inns ("gasthaus") and chain hotels last June and all of them had Wifi for free or a moderate fee. Also, every McDonalds in Germany (and elsewhere) has free Wifi. There are lots of McDonalds in Germany, both in towns and off the autobahn. However, to use the free Wifi in a McDonalds, you need a cell phone that can receive a text message containing an access code for each time that you use the Wifi. I invested in a German T-mobile pay-as-you-go cell phone a couple years ago and it has come in handy several times. I think it's a good thing to have a cell phone when you're driving alone in Germany. You can buy such a phone with some free minutes in a T-Mobile shop or a general cell phone store. As a foreigner, you need to show your passport to buy a German cell phone or a German SIM card.
5- I plan to purchase the GPS TomTom application for my iPhone, has anyone used this?A dedicated GPS is a good investment. I bought a refurbished one in the US with European maps preloaded. It came in very handy.
Greetings to all,
2- Do FKK's have any English speaking personnel? I don't speak a word of German, I am planning to take google's translator with me as a tool, but that's it, if that doesn't work I am screwed, I also speak Spanish (I am Mexican) so any of the two will do.
3- Do FKK's, hotels and Frankfurt in general have parking? I guess this is a question about parking in general, if I have to rent a car, how difficult it is to park a car in Frankfurt in general, keep in mind that I don't speak German. I've visited Manhattan and didn't rent a car because it is hell to park cars, where I did rent a car and regretted it was in Miami, parking was very expensive.Learn 10 basic words and phrases in German and that's all you need to get around Germany. Most people you will encounter in hotels and restaurants speak English and most educated German people speak some English. Anyway, you're not in Germany to discuss philosophy, you're there to get laid by beautiful European women, many of whom know at least some English and some of whom are fluent English speakers. Furthermore, speaking a common language is definitely not a prerequisite for having sex with a woman.
Hessen Bub
12-04-12, 08:40
Also, every McDonalds in Germany (and elsewhere) has free Wifi. There are lots of McDonalds in Germany, both in towns and off the autobahn. However, to use the free Wifi in a McDonalds, you need a cell phone that can receive a text message containing an access code for each time that you use the Wifi.True, but it's limited to one hour and you will not be able to access adult sites.
HB
True, but it's limited to one hour and you will not be able to access adult sites.
HBDon't know if it's still allowed, but I have used Starbucks' free WiFi in Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof to access adult sites.
True, but it's limited to one hour and you will not be able to access adult sites.
HBYou can use proxy server for that hessen.
Try using http://www.hidemyass.com/
While driving around Germany, I stopped once a day in a McDonald's and used my free WIFI time to find hotels and make reservations at my next stop and to check my email. I had no need to check adult sites since I already knew what clubs I was headed to. An hour was always more time than I needed to complete those simple tasks. The free WIFI in McDonald's is a valuable service that you can't easily find elsewhere when you are driving between destinations. It's true that it's also available in Starbucks, though Starbucks are not as numerous in Germany as McDonald's. I don't recall that the hotels I stayed in had any restrictions on adult site access through their WIFI.
I expect to be around for Silvester in the clubs so I have these clubs listed as having a Silvester party on 31 December 2012:
Acapulco.
Golden Dreams.
Oase (times 5pm to 5am)
Palace.
Planet Happy Garden.
Sharks
After my hiatus from the clubs I am now starting my Christmas party binge so I am taking some days free from work and doing a tour. I have a fair bit of choice for the long weekends I have if I want to make a Christmas party in the club. The choices are:
Thursday. 6 December.
Schieferhof.
Living Room.
Sudfass.
Friday. 7 December.
Palace.
Babylon.
Rom.
My friend and I talked today about what we do on 7 December and it looks like we do two different things so I make the choice on my own.
Saturday. 8 December.
World.
First.
Point.
5th Element.
Dali.
Saturday. 15 December.
Oase.
Sharks.
Monte Carlo (maybe look up some girls I know there?)
Planet Happy Garden
Steave69 and others:
I plan to visit world, orsi, gt, living room, vv, samya, in the first 10 days of December. The lineup would be down then because too close to holidays that girls would go home already? Any ideas about the possible line-up for early December? Thanks.All For Bb,
You are probably knowing the answer already but the first 10 days in December actually have full line ups and maybe even more girls than usual as amateurs come to work to make some quick cash from their gash before Christmas. You have picked an extremely good time to be in the clubs for 10 days in a row.
I have also listed below on this thread the Christmas parties that potentially are available for your attendance to enhance the festive experience.
Enjoy.
Hessen Bub
12-05-12, 09:35
You can use proxy server for that hessen.
Try using.
http://www.hidemyass.com/May work, some proxies are blocked.
HB
Hello fellow ISGer,
Three months ago when I was at a monger dinner party at Jackson's place in Buenos Aires, a friend of mine arrived with a 'date' who is an experienced local working girl. My friend knew I have visited my share of FKKs and his 'date' was interested in working in one of them. They asked me how does a girl go about working in a FKK. I told them I know very little about that subject but I assume coming from a non-EU country they need some kind of working permit to work in Germany. She only has an Argentine passport but she has traveled and worked in Spain before. I don't know what kind of arrangement she had and I speculate it was under the table and not 100% legal. I'm sure that will not fly in Germany.
So I am asking if anyone has any insight on how does a non-EU girl be allowed to work in FKK. Does she need to apply for a working permit from German embassy / consulate? How difficult is that and how long does it normally take? How about German income tax?
Any insight is appreciated.
Sportsman
SwingerLover
12-11-12, 15:17
Three months ago when I was at a monger dinner party at Jackson's place in Buenos Aires, a friend of mine arrived with a 'date' who is an experienced local working girl. My friend knew I have visited my share of FKKs and his 'date' was interested in working in one of them. They asked me how does a girl go about working in a FKK. I told them I know very little about that subject but I assume coming from a non-EU country they need some kind of working permit to work in Germany. She only has an Argentine passport but she has traveled and worked in Spain before. I don't know what kind of arrangement she had and I speculate it was under the table and not 100% legal. I'm sure that will not fly in Germany.
So I am asking if anyone has any insight on how does a non-EU girl be allowed to work in FKK. Does she need to apply for a working permit from German embassy / consulate? How difficult is that and how long does it normally take? How about German income tax?She will have to get a work permit visa from a German consulate or embassy; I doubt that she will get one for this line of work, but I don't know for sure. About the income tax, I think that if she is employed at a club as a regular employee, she will not only be subjected to german income tax, but to german social security as well. If she's working as a self-employed entrepreneur, she should get away with paying the "Verrichtungssteuer" which basically is a flatrate pussy tax, payable per pussy per working day and being around 25 Euros a day, at least in Hessen. The amount might differ between different cities or from Bundesland to Bundesland.
The biggest problem might be getting a work permit at all. Being an argentinian, she should try to get a work permit visa for the entire EU from a spanish consulate. This might be easier, considering ancient "Madre Patria"-connections to Spain. But no guarantees here either!
She will have to get a work permit visa from a German consulate or embassy; I doubt that she will get one for this line of work, but I don't know for sure. About the income tax, I think that if she is employed at a club as a regular employee, she will not only be subjected to german income tax, but to german social security as well. If she's working as a self-employed entrepreneur, she should get away with paying the "Verrichtungssteuer" which basically is a flatrate pussy tax, payable per pussy per working day and being around 25 Euros a day, at least in Hessen. The amount might differ between different cities or from Bundesland to Bundesland.
The biggest problem might be getting a work permit at all. Being an argentinian, she should try to get a work permit visa for the entire EU from a spanish consulate. This might be easier, considering ancient "Madre Patria"-connections to Spain. But no guarantees here either!I met a tag team at Oase a few years ago who said they were from Uruguay, and I believed them. They appeared to me as if they could be from that country based on their features (white-skinned blondes easily found in Uruguay) , and their Spanish was fluent. If they could do it, then so can an Argie. Somehow.
You can use proxy server for that hessen.
Try using.
http://www.hidemyass.com/Or also investigate a VPN service. Many places block the proxy sites, but a VPN is less likely to be blocked since people usually use them for work.
Thanks for the reply SL and The Cane. I have met Brazilian and Argentine girls at Oase before, not to mention a handful of Dominicans who sometimes identify themselves from the Caribbean. I never asked them how they come about able to work in Gemany because it was not a concern for me.
Hi,
I'm currently on holiday in Scotland from Australia, I may have a few days up my sleeve next week an was wondering were would be the best place to go in Germany or Europe.
Any advice would be great.
SwingerLover
12-14-12, 11:12
was wondering were would be the best place to go in Germany or Europe.Sorry, lad; as long as we don't know what your definition of "best place" is, there's no possibility of giving you any useful answer. No use sending you to a gangbang party if you prefer one-on-one behind closed doors; no use sending you to an FKK if you prefer bareback orgies. Do you prefer flatrate or P4P? Looking for any special features of a location, such as Sauna, whirlpool, buffet, alcohol or whatever? Please specify!
Sorry, lad; as long as we don't know what your definition of "best place" is, there's no possibility of giving you any useful answer. No use sending you to a gangbang party if you prefer one-on-one behind closed doors; no use sending you to an FKK if you prefer bareback orgies. Do you prefer flatrate or P4P? Looking for any special features of a location, such as Sauna, whirlpool, buffet, alcohol or whatever? Please specify!Hi thanks for the reply,
I'm open to anything but 1 on 1 with the option of inviting more to the party with a bar, massage or sauna would be something I would be looking for. Something thats not to difficult to get to and open during the week as thats probably when I will be going.
My brother is also coming over for new years and wants to head to amsterdam for the usually red light district but after being on this forum and reading about some of the locations I think that somewhere else would be more suited than the usually.
Indi Companion
12-15-12, 18:11
Hi thanks for the reply,
I'm open to anything but 1 on 1 with the option of inviting more to the party with a bar, massage or sauna would be something I would be looking for. Something thats not to difficult to get to and open during the week as thats probably when I will be going.
My brother is also coming over for new years and wants to head to amsterdam for the usually red light district but after being on this forum and reading about some of the locations I think that somewhere else would be more suited than the usually.There are many Silvester Parties in Frankfurt area, at fkks Oase, Palace and Sharks. They are likely 10 times better than RLD in Amsterdam!
SwingerLover
12-16-12, 17:00
I'm open to anything but 1 on 1 with the option of inviting more to the party with a bar, massage or sauna would be something I would be looking for. Something thats not to difficult to get to and open during the week as thats probably when I will be going.Sounds like Cleopatra-Arena in Gelsenkirchen on their regular Flatrate Wednesday (That would be on the 19th next week.) should be your best option. Bar, Sauna and 1-on-1 action with the possibility of some public fucking for a flatrate price of 80 Euros (regular) or 100 Euros (bareback) as often as you like from 11 am to 2 am should satisfy you. Wanking and a few others always have a lot of fun there; other guys complained about the place. I haven't been there myself yet.
www.cleopatra-arena.de/events.html
I'm more into groupsex and gangbang, preferably bareback, so I can't help that much with one-on-one stuff. Check the Bareback AO Calendar thread in the Partytreff forum for next week's parties. You may also fuck with rubbers, but at most places you will have public open action with others watching and even joining in.
www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3335-Bareback-AO-Party-Calendar
Neutron Flux
12-17-12, 01:52
Sounds like Cleopatra-Arena in Gelsenkirchen on their regular Flatrate Wednesday (That would be on the 19th next week.) should be your best option. Bar, Sauna and 1-on-1 action with the possibility of some public fucking for a flatrate price of 80 Euros (regular) or 100 Euros (bareback) as often as you like from 11 am to 2 am should satisfy you. Wanking and a few others always have a lot of fun there; other guys complained about the place. I haven't been there myself yet.SL, no offense, but if I understand correctly that guy hasn't even been to a regular FKK club, and you suggest a hardcore bareback venue that you can't even report on first hand? I know you have some strong opinions about certain things, as recently in the Artemis thread but remember what you suggest is a minority thing among mongers, whatever the reasons. And many people are also not much into the girls you will find there (yes, there are also pretty girls).
AussieLad, unless you're very short on money, or have special preferences, I would recommend you go to one of the big clubs that Indi has mentioned first. They are open every day until 4 or 5 in the morning and have all the facilities. Travel and more info can be found in the respective threads, all of them are easy to get to. Amsterdam can be a lot of fun and probably even more so for new years eve, but for quality working girls ranks very much below Frankfurt area.
SwingerLover
12-18-12, 16:15
SL, no offense, but if I understand correctly that guy hasn't even been to a regular FKK club, and you suggest a hardcore bareback venue that you can't even report on first hand?I totally agree with you. But no one else has answered Aussie Lad's question at all, except Indi Companion. And he advised him about Silvester, while Aussie was asking for this week. Now, it would be way preferable if some regular FKK-mongers would have advised him. Since nobody had, I jumped in. But I don't have any experience to share about FKKs; I've never been to one since I prefer the party action.
Cleopatra-Arena is a regular FKK-Saunaclub on all other days of the week, judging from it's website. And as I've been told by reliable sources (Wanking being one of them) around 70% of the action goes on one-on-one behind closed doors even on the Flatrate-Wednesday. Aussie Lad looking for "the option of inviting more to the party" is not really looking for one-on-one-action, if I understood correctly. So with the bar and a Sauna and the Flatrate price on WEDs and the option of going one-on-one OR public at his discretion, CA should be the ideal location for him.
But you're absolutely right that I can't report on CA first hand, therefore I can say nothing about the quality of the service. I have only what Wanking and a few others told me; but they always seem to have a good time there.
If you have some better suggestions for Aussie Lad, be my guest. Since he asked in the FKK forum, some regular FKK-monger should have answered him in the first place!
Indi Companion
12-18-12, 17:40
I totally agree with you. But no one else has answered Aussie Lad's question at all, except Indi Companion. And he advised him about Silvester, while Aussie was asking for this week. Now, it would be way preferable if some regular FKK-mongers would have advised him. Since nobody had, I jumped in. But I don't have any experience to share about FKKs; I've never been to one since I prefer the party action.
Cleopatra-Arena is a regular FKK-Saunaclub on all other days of the week, judging from it's website. And as I've been told by reliable sources (Wanking being one of them) around 70% of the action goes on one-on-one behind closed doors even on the Flatrate-Wednesday. Aussie Lad looking for "the option of inviting more to the party" is not really looking for one-on-one-action, if I understood correctly. So with the bar and a Sauna and the Flatrate price on WEDs and the option of going one-on-one OR public at his discretion, CA should be the ideal location for him.
But you're absolutely right that I can't report on CA first hand, therefore I can say nothing about the quality of the service. I have only what Wanking and a few others told me; but they always seem to have a good time there.
If you have some better suggestions for Aussie Lad, be my guest. Since he asked in the FKK forum, some regular FKK-monger should have answered him in the first place!Right SL, I gave only partial suggestion to Aussie Lad because I took into consideration only the fact that his brother was coming over for new year.
However, for a newbie on his first FKK trip I would suggest in Frankfurt the following:
If you want a nice evening with a bar, music and fun you can easily reach by taxi or public transportation Mainhattan. Reasonably various and good lineup. For sure you can find something for your taste and girls are not too pushy. So good for a beginner.
If you want the reast bust of the FKKs, once you maybe have tried out an evening in Mainhattan you can venture to Oase.
The experience can be overwhelming but most likely together with Palace the best lineup around in Frankfurt. Only difference is that at least in Oase girls can be very pushy but in any event less Shalrks than in Palace.
If you want a day of relax with good wellness and solid lineup go to World. To get there by public transportation is not the most comfy but you can do it and find a lot of indication on World thread. Better however to drive there up. It is a 40/45 minutes drive from Frankfurt.
Total relax with (IMHO) decent lineup but very clean and top quite new wellness area can be found in Darmstadt at Sharks.
Very laid back atmosphere, nice girls in their approach and for sure usually also more keen to have a chat with the customers instead immediatly asking to go the room.
If you have a car and have time, I would suggest you a visit to Golden Time, possibly in a weekeday. Weekends there are too crowded in winter in my opinion. Grat lineup, good food and free beer but not so much of a wellness area.
Suggestions for newbees: read in the threads what the price are and stick to them, always have a watch with you and show to the girl that you are looking at it when you get in the room, do not get upset if girls will not spend so much time with you outside of the room. It is normal, girls tend to spend time outside the room chatting and entertaining the customers with regulars, not with whom they think is going to be there only once in a life.
Last but not least, whatever you would like to do with the girl and in the room, whatever you are expecting, do not be shy and ask the girl before committing to the room. You will avoid this way the worst scums.
Now, it would be way preferable if some regular FKK-mongers would have advised him. Since nobody had, I jumped in. But I don't have any experience to share about FKKs; I've never been to one since I prefer the party action.
If you have some better suggestions for Aussie Lad, be my guest. Since he asked in the FKK forum, some regular FKK-monger should have answered him in the first place!There are many more who know more so they can answer.
Aussie Lad's question was for me no interesting. This is why I no answer.
Neurosynth
12-19-12, 04:51
Regarding German options versus Amsterdam RLD.
I would say the quality of the women there versus a club like Oase is as good or slightly better. I say slightly better because the RLD is more diverse than Oase which seems to be 90%+ Romanian these days.
But that's just looking at the women. In terms of performance BBBJ is rare as is DFK or LFK in the RLD. Some girls will up sell like crazy, and some will pull the top-off-is-extra scam, etc. AND the cost in the RLD is twice as much (approx) with time going at 50 euros per 15 minutes rather than per half hour.
So based on sexual performance, but not eye candy, the Amsterdam RLD is a distant second. And in Amsterdam negotiate the particulars at the door before going in.
But for some Amsterdam may still be the better choice, especially for New Years Eve. The whole town will be festive with lots of options for food and drink. You won't be limited to a single somewhat claustrophobic building.
Plus for those who enjoy certain herbal delights that alone may be the trump card held by Amsterdam.
So if optimizing strictly for sex the larger FKKs are going to win, but for a broader mix Amsterdam may be the way to go.
Sixsens saunaclub seems to have opened recently very near Aachen, making an appeal for the Dutch / Belgian customers. Maybe in time it will have a minor impact on the popularity of GT? There are reviews on Ijsberenforum (but i haven't had time to read them as my Dutch is embryonic)
WolfgangAF
12-25-12, 19:50
Is FKK Sudfass Oase still open? If it is are there any reviews or news on this place?
http://fkk-club-in-muenchen.de
Kingwenslas
12-30-12, 02:01
Hi,
I'm currently on holiday in Scotland from Australia, I may have a few days up my sleeve next week an was wondering were would be the best place to go in Germany or Europe.
Any advice would be great.Bit late now, I know, but for anyone else interested, here's my two pennies worth:
The countries I would consider would be Spain, Germany, Poland, Moldova and Ukraine. Since the last two require visas, forget them, plus also there's loads of other considerations. I've heard that Spain is good, but I don't fancy the latino look, so the choice is either Germany or Poland.
Within Germany, you have two geographical areas, Frankfurt or the Ruhr. For me the Ruhr is better, and also cheaper. Germany also gives other options from fkks, namely the partytreffs etc.
But here's something that is probably not widely discussed:
In the past, I've had a lot of fun in cities like Wroclaw and Katowice in Poland. Use http://www.odloty.pl to find girls. Ring them up, and go and visit them in their apartment. I would avoid Krakow and Warsaw if you are on a budget. For me, Katowice is the best city as you can fly there and the prices are cheap. Or be daring, and drive there in your car. It's been a few years since I've done it, and looking at the website now, the prices look higher than I remember, but it's a definite option. You can find offers of one hour for 150 Zloti, or 30 British pounds.
By the way, please make sure that you post a report of whatever you did when you come back.
Kingwenslas
Regarding German options versus Amsterdam RLD.How does the Frankfurt RLD's compare to those in Amsterdam? What's the difference in the quality and quantity of the women? I've never been to Amsterdam yet but I'm thinking about doing a side journey on an upcoming trip. I've been to the Frankfurt RLD by the main train station and one down in Stutgart, I liked being able to walk down the hallways and look over the women right then and there. Hated the walk up and down the stairs though. Pricewise I was quoted 30 euro's for a basic CBJ in the Frankfurt Rld's.
How does the Frankfurt RLD's compare to those in Amsterdam? What's the difference in the quality and quantity of the women? I've never been to Amsterdam yet but I'm thinking about doing a side journey on an upcoming trip. I've been to the Frankfurt RLD by the main train station and one down in Stutgart, I liked being able to walk down the hallways and look over the women right then and there. Hated the walk up and down the stairs though. Pricewise I was quoted 30 euro's for a basic CBJ in the Frankfurt Rld's.The RLD in Amsterdam is lame. After you've visited the top mongering spots in the world, there's no going back to Amsterdam! Oh, if you haven't seen it, I guess it's worth it once. But you're being smart by making it only a side journey. I've never been to the RLD in Frankfurt, and think I ought to give it a look next time. But, I know there's no way going there will become my "thing". A RLD just can't measure up to kind of club and bar environments that I prefer.
Neutron Flux
01-02-13, 02:36
How does the Frankfurt RLD's compare to those in Amsterdam? What's the difference in the quality and quantity of the women? I've never been to Amsterdam yet but I'm thinking about doing a side journey on an upcoming trip. I've been to the Frankfurt RLD by the main train station and one down in Stutgart, I liked being able to walk down the hallways and look over the women right then and there. Hated the walk up and down the stairs though. Pricewise I was quoted 30 euro's for a basic CBJ in the Frankfurt Rld's.Well, I don't have any current info either, but can tell the following. Amsterdam is a great city, much nicer than e. G. Frankfurt, so if you've never been there you should go. Nightilfe, architecture, culture etc. Sadly my ways have not crossed this city for five years now. The Amsterdam RLD is of course world famous and probably bigger than Frankfurt but it's mainly a tourist spot. That's concerning the main RLD, I've been told there are also two smaller ones that cater more to locals, but I've never been there. In the main RLD you will find a lot of tourists who are there just for sightseeing, and I mean also women, couples and older couples so that's quite odd. In the night, like all across the city center, there will also be a lot of drunks. Sorry to point out that directly, but predominantly these will be young Brits who are drunk and stoned and who knows what else off their tits and behave accordingly. Also, in these streets there are a lot of scam artists and pickpockets trying to sell you souvenirs, ecstasy, cocaine or whatever you may need. Stay away from them. There are quite a few stunners in these windows along with many ugly ones. I've only ever been with one girl, mainly just to have "been there, done that" it was a mediocre round for 100 euros. From reading the boards over the years, it is possible to get good rounds there, but you have to try hard, and trust your instincts. Like everywhere in the RLD they will promise you the world for little money.
Else, Amsterdam also has a large escort scene, but I don't have any personal experience, I believe the prices were not that bad though, but still a bit higher than FKKs. It had a very famous club, known for outstanding service, I never made it there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yab_Yum_%28brothel%29
But as you can read, that's history.
How does the Frankfurt RLD's compare to those in Amsterdam? What's the difference in the quality and quantity of the women? I've never been to Amsterdam yet but I'm thinking about doing a side journey on an upcoming trip. I've been to the Frankfurt RLD by the main train station and one down in Stutgart, I liked being able to walk down the hallways and look over the women right then and there. Hated the walk up and down the stairs though. Pricewise I was quoted 30 euro's for a basic CBJ in the Frankfurt Rld's.Breadman,
I would go to Amsterdam for all other things (like smoking stuff) it offers but not for girls.
I just came back to Frankfurt (my final leg of 2 and half week trip) from a 3 day Amsterdam trip. I was disapointed in spite of having RLD at the bottom of my Amsterdam todo list. It is an interesting experience to walk through Amsterdam RLD and talk to the window girls.
Standard rate for Window girl is 50 Euro for a 20 minute suck and fuck session (mostly no kissing, and with limited to no touching). You can negotiate kissing, touching or any other services for additional charge. I tried 2 window girls: first one from Romania was good and the second one from Poland just sucked me a bit and asked me 50 more Euros for sex. There is nothing you could do when you get into such situation. Its not like FKK where you can complain to the management. Dealing with Amsterdam RLD Window girls is like a crapshoot. You can try your luck.
I would just stick with FKKs.
Hessen Bub
01-02-13, 09:09
At Frankfurt RLD you can get BBFS for 20 EUR, depending on the house and the girl.
HB
Indi Companion
01-02-13, 10:58
Agree with Cane, compared to best FKKs or thermas or best spots in Thailand, Amsterdam RLD is really nothing to write home about.
It is ok if you are already there for visiting that beautiful city and you feel the need to empty your balls. That's all.
Frankfurt RLD is better, at least from the perspective services / price.
Willy Walker
01-02-13, 14:14
Dear readers,
I was wondering if anyone has ever done a tour to FKK clubs in Germany, there are a few websites that offer that kind of service, I like the fact that things are taken care of, transport, nice hotel etc. But does anyone here have the experience. I found some information using google and in the classified Ads section is some information, but I would really like some feed-back from the experienced visitors, I am a newbee so every info is welcome.
Willy (just started) Walker
Dear readers,
I was wondering if anyone has ever done a tour to FKK clubs in Germany, there are a few websites that offer that kind of service, I like the fact that things are taken care of, transport, nice hotel etc. But does anyone here have the experience. I found some information using google and in the classified Ads section is some information, but I would really like some feed-back from the experienced visitors, I am a newbee so every info is welcome.
Willy (just started) WalkerAll enjoyed and think posted on Argentina Private.
Dear readers,
I was wondering if anyone has ever done a tour to FKK clubs in Germany, there are a few websites that offer that kind of service, I like the fact that things are taken care of, transport, nice hotel etc. But does anyone here have the experience. I found some information using google and in the classified Ads section is some information, but I would really like some feed-back from the experienced visitors, I am a newbee so every info is welcome.
Willy (just started) WalkerYou pay for your own flight. They pack you as many guys in a room as they can to keep their profits high. They get a kickback from each club, so to maximize that they'll run you thru two clubs per day.
Your better off flying into Frankfurt and booking a hotel near Oase and take a taxi direct to the hotel. Then taxi to any club in Frankfurt, the taxi drivers know all the hotels and the clubs. You'll pay some $$'s for the taxi's but ten times less than you would for a tour. Best of all no fat bugger snoring in the bed next to you.
Neurosynth
01-02-13, 20:53
Breadman nailed it. I've not gone on one of those tours but I've read what they offer and what they charge. They are clearly profiting off of newbies insecurities about going it alone. To keep things simple you can use Expedia to find hotels near your FKK's of choice and rent a car with a GPS. It's easy and you will have a *much* better time.
Willy Walker
01-02-13, 21:12
You pay for your own flight. They pack you as many guys in a room as they can to keep their profits high. They get a kickback from each club, so to maximize that they'll run you thru two clubs per day.
Your better off flying into Frankfurt and booking a hotel near Oase and take a taxi direct to the hotel. Then taxi to any club in Frankfurt, the taxi drivers know all the hotels and the clubs. You'll pay some $$'s for the taxi's but ten times less than you would for a tour. Best of all no fat bugger snoring in the bed next to you.Hi Breadman, it doesn't sound like too bad deal. Hotel, transport for 250 a day, if I take taxi I can spent easily 100 per day, and then a hotel charge is 100 per night. Leaves 50 for that service, I am not a "stay in 1 club" guy. So I would like to see more then just 1 club. If I look at Frankfurt I see around 10 clubs. But the further away from Frankfurt I go, the higher my taxi cost will go.
They say you have your own room, unless you travel with a buddy and want to share a room, but then the cost is lower. But did you ever do a tour and had this experience, or are you just assuming
Willy Walker
01-02-13, 21:20
Breadman nailed it. I've not gone on one of those tours but I've read what they offer and what they charge. They are clearly profiting off of newbies insecurities about going it alone. To keep things simple you can use Expedia to find hotels near your FKK's of choice and rent a car with a GPS. It's easy and you will have a *much* better time.Hi Neurosynth,
I understand, I know how to use a GPS, but I also like to drink a few beers. However in Oase their beer prices seems to be pretty high like 10 euro per beer or so, I might catch up with some folks from the forum here. I do not like to be my self, maybe I am a little insecure and like to around with others, but I also think it is more fun when you are with a "small" group.
Willy Walker
01-02-13, 21:34
You pay for your own flight. They pack you as many guys in a room as they can to keep their profits high. They get a kickback from each club, so to maximize that they'll run you thru two clubs per day.
Your better off flying into Frankfurt and booking a hotel near Oase and take a taxi direct to the hotel. Then taxi to any club in Frankfurt, the taxi drivers know all the hotels and the clubs. You'll pay some $$'s for the taxi's but ten times less than you would for a tour. Best of all no fat bugger snoring in the bed next to you.Just found this, so if you go clubbing for 2 days with a buddy, you can share a room, if you want to have a room for yourself, you pay only 15 more.
FOR 2 PERSONS. 2 DAYS. 1 HOTEL NIGHT:
Package 05 – 220 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 2 rooms)
Package 06 – 205 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 1 room)
Package 07 – 190 pp / day (normal transport. 2 rooms)
Package 08 – 175 pp / day (normal transport. 1 room)
(*) Normal transport is BMW330D E46
Breadman nailed it. I've not gone on one of those tours but I've read what they offer and what they charge. They are clearly profiting off of newbies insecurities about going it alone. To keep things simple you can use Expedia to find hotels near your FKK's of choice and rent a car with a GPS. It's easy and you will have a *much* better time.I've talked to guys who went on these tours, so my 'generalization' is very close to what goes on. Three or four guys to a room (with those nice rollaway beds) is not my idea of a sex tour. Throw in some strange food that isn't as easily digested and you know snoring isn't the worst thing that can happen. You've basically got 5 clubs in Frankfurt: World, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and Sharks. Find their locations and find a hotel close to dead center of these clubs. Land in Frankfurt, grab a taxi and hand him the address to your hotel.
Now if we don't hear a word out of Willy, we have to assume its just another tour promoter trying to drum up business. They don't get along well with the members on this board, we tend to help out the rookies so they can avoid getting overcharged.
Banana Boi
01-02-13, 23:32
Instead of a FKK tour, I'd offer to pay HB his entry fees and a few sessions each night and have him pick you up from your hotel and go to a club. :)
I'd like to point out Samya's website, its a great tool to judge what really goes on during the Christmas holidays. Guys always ask the same question during this time "how's the lineup's going to be late in December or early in January?". I've been checking samya's website every few wednesdays for the last 6 months or so, trying to gauge the talent level. Almost every Wednesday they list over 50 girls working. The last few Wednesday's that numbers been in the low 20's. 60% drop in available talent is pretty drastic. Yes, samya is a small club but it offers a tool to gauge just how bad some of the other clubs might be over these holiday weeks.
Willy Walker
01-03-13, 11:46
I've talked to guys who went on these tours, so my 'generalization' is very close to what goes on. Three or four guys to a room (with those nice rollaway beds) is not my idea of a sex tour. Throw in some strange food that isn't as easily digested and you know snoring isn't the worst thing that can happen. You've basically got 5 clubs in Frankfurt: World, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and Sharks. Find their locations and find a hotel close to dead center of these clubs. Land in Frankfurt, grab a taxi and hand him the address to your hotel.
Now if we don't hear a word out of Willy, we have to assume its just another tour promoter trying to drum up business. They don't get along well with the members on this board, we tend to help out the rookies so they can avoid getting overcharged.Hi Breadman, thanks for the club list, and thanks for the warnings, I go by myself and let you know how things work out, I will share my experience here on the forum, probably nothing new for you guys, but for me it is. Talk to you later and.
Tx Neurosynth.
Tx HB.
Tx Breadman
Tx Ableyone.
Willy (have to get used to this forum) Walker
Just found this, so if you go clubbing for 2 days with a buddy, you can share a room, if you want to have a room for yourself, you pay only 15 more.
FOR 2 PERSONS. 2 DAYS. 1 HOTEL NIGHT:
Package 05 – 220 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 2 rooms)
Package 06 – 205 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 1 room)
Package 07 – 190 pp / day (normal transport. 2 rooms)
Package 08 – 175 pp / day (normal transport. 1 room)
(*) Normal transport is BMW330D E46Again, the key is rushing thru 2 clubs in a day and dealing with jet lag. That package doesn't include cover charges to the clubs, your hotel will be the cheapest place a tour operator can find. 220 per day for a hotel that costs 25 euro's, the other 195 goes to the guy driving you around for the day. If you show up with a buddy, then the both of you pay 410 euro's combined to this guy for the same 25 euro room and a ride to two clubs per day. Now the tour guides making 385 euro's off the two of you.
If you are really going with a buddy, the two of you should have no problems splitting the cost of the taxi's and doing a tour on your own for a quarter what these tour's charge. Fyi your driven to the club in a Mercedes, but id much rather be driven to the clubs in an Audi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PogGd90yLb8
Just waiting now for 'Mr Tour Operator' to chime in and plug his services.
My bet is Willy's the tour operator, funny how he quoted only one of the websites he found.
Just found this, so if you go clubbing for 2 days with a buddy, you can share a room, if you want to have a room for yourself, you pay only 15 more.
FOR 2 PERSONS. 2 DAYS. 1 HOTEL NIGHT:
Package 05 – 220 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 2 rooms)
/cutYes its you again!
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