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Rajiv69.
Generally there should be no problem at FKKs and Saunaclubs with being Indian. If you want to go to GoldenTime (which you won't I think since it is fairly inaccessible by public transport from Dusseldorf) you should go before around 13. 00.
Everything else you list is what I would like, but in NRW the most common thing is for girls not to approach and for them to be partially clothed. If you look at Magnum website (I think) you will see there are some days when they are naked.
Really you need to look at webites and the thread to see what suits you. For public transport use bahn. De (there is an English language version)
Maybe some other members with wider experience of NRW can help you more.
Please post when you return home. Too many new members just ask a series of questions and then don't contribute.
atRajiv79: if you want good line up with real GFE girls that offer DFK, etc, avoid the large clubs in NRW (so no Golden Time en no Magnum). The smaller clubs, like Babylon, Panthera, etc are much better in that respect. If you are in Hessen (around Frankfurt) the larger FKKs are much better in line up, so you can choice Oase or World (but watch out for some sharks there!).
Monger2012
06-15-13, 08:43
I am traveling to Frankfurt with another friend. We would like to experience FFK clubs there. What is the must visit FKK clubs? How much should we prepare to spend on cover and session with girls per hour?
Thank you.
Travelforfun
06-16-13, 14:10
- I will be in Dusseldorf next weekend.
- I will be going first time to fkk in my life, am from India, will that be any problem?
- I like to be at a place where girls can approach men (in some places, I hear that girls not allowed to approach men)
- l prefer to have a place also with outdoor / indoor place so as to relax also a bit, enjoy looking at nude girls in pool / garden / open area, enjoy looking other peoples actions.
- I plan to use public transportation.
- let me know your recommended suggestions of which two clubs to visit on weekend ie sat and sun.
- I am looking for beautiful girls, with GFE, also DFK (deep kissing) , as I hear some club girls are doing only drama and service is not so good
Hope to receive some help from experienced mongers, some recent experiencesIf its your first time. I would suggest go to a smaller club.
Sauna BlueNote in Dusseldorf is pretty much accessible by public transport. Taxi from main station will cost you Euro 15 each way. Its a fairly small club but you would not feel intimidated by lots of girls.
Service there is top notch. No problems with GFE or DFK there. Bad part is its small, not much to do. Not many girls and they do not approach. However anywhere you go the approach policy is more or less the same.
I am traveling to Frankfurt with another friend. We would like to experience FFK clubs there. What is the must visit FKK clubs? How much should we prepare to spend on cover and session with girls per hour?
Thank you.Must visit:
1. Oase.
2. World.
3. Sharks.
4. Mainhattan.
5. Palace.
Not enough time? Start from the top. Still not enough time? Pick anyone.
Entrance: 65- 75E.
Price: 50 per half hour when having sex (BBBJ / DFK / DATY included). CIM / Anal are extras. I.E. between 100 and 1.000E for a ten hour stay. Up to you.
Can I just say that it would be really, really nice if you guys made a report? Thanks.
Hi Guys!
I used for months to visit FKK in Germany, that's fabulous.
But, I'm now a bit boring of this industy and I'm looking for something more "select"!
Do you know FKK club more select? With better girls and better place? Price is not a problem.
Thanks for answer
London Traveller
06-17-13, 16:38
Hi Guys!
I used for months to visit FKK in Germany, that's fabulous.
But, I'm now a bit boring of this industy and I'm looking for something more "select"!
Do you know FKK club more select? With better girls and better place? Price is not a problem.
Thanks for answerFor this type of thing FKK is not the right place. Some people might recommend Globe in Zurich but if you want to try there you won't find the best girls on the floor as they are pre-booked by regular clientele and spend all the time in the room with occasional trips to reception. The facilities are definitely not better than an ordinary club in Germany and nowhere near the standard of Palace or Golden Time.
I would suggest you try escorts, where there are some hot girls, although it is true that many top escorts are no better looking than many FKK girls. The difference is that good looking FKK girls on the whole do not provide the best service, whereas a well-reviewed escort will be both good company in and out of bed. There are plenty of good German agencies and there are lots of hot girls in London too. Including plenty of English ones. I like English girls but there are none at FKKs.
Hi Guys!
Do you know FKK club more select? With better girls and better place? Price is not a problem.If you got no problem with the prices, then go to Wien. Top clubs there cost too much for us little guys. Check the appropriate thread (s) and you will get more info. I remember top or "select" club is Golden Time in Wien. There are more for sure. Look in the Austria section.
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Hessen Bub
06-17-13, 19:31
Go to Babylon in Austria. Vienna, Salzburg, Klagenfurt.
http://www.babylon1.com/
Select girls. Expensive.
HB
Banana Boi
06-21-13, 16:58
Would there be fewer girls at the big FKK's at the end of August compared to mid-September? Never been to a FKK at the end of August.
Would there be fewer girls at the big FKK's at the end of August compared to mid-September? Never been to a FKK at the end of August.As regards the Big FKKs in Frankfurt and the surrounding area, experience tells me that some girls will be away in August compared to September (particularly mid-September) when the IAA Messe (Frankfurt International Motor Show) occurs. Of course there will also be more customers in the clubs during September. Busier clubs with more competition for the better looking hookers. You need to be extra cautious in clubs like FKK Palace in case of shark attack but this type of behaviour can occur in any of the clubs when they are busy. So in summary there are pros and cons with regard to visiting the clubs in September as opposed to August and I would not advise anyone not to travel in August. As long as your wallet is full, you will have a good time no matter what the month.
I hope to head back to Germany later this year, fall perhaps, which FKK club is best right now for younger girls. I prefer 18-late 20's.
Trans Atlantic
07-03-13, 07:52
I hope to head back to Germany later this year, fall perhaps, which FKK club is best right now for younger girls. I prefer 18-late 20's.Samya, Acapulco.
London Traveller
07-03-13, 18:41
I hope to head back to Germany later this year, fall perhaps, which FKK club is best right now for younger girls. I prefer 18-late 20's.Plenty at Oase and World.
I hope to head back to Germany later this year, fall perhaps, which FKK club is best right now for younger girls. I prefer 18-late 20's.From my experience, it would be Acapulco and Oase, in that order. I will have more info after my trip next week.
BP
A group of us has been traveling the past week in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf, including el jefe Jackson himself. The past three days we have been to Haus Pathera (twice) and Golden Time. Jackson has come to realization that regular Sauna Clubs where the girls are not completely naked just do not do it for him. He will only go to clubs which the girls walk around in their birthday suits. Any recommendation? I think Magnum is fully nude but the line-up has been poor. How about Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf?
Magnum is a sauna club. F39 in Bochum is an FKK club. Finca Erotica in Dierdorf is a FKK club but I wouldn't recommend it. Frankfurt is the place to go for FKK clubs, NWR is known more for the sauna clubs and lower prices. Dolce Vita might be an FKK club but thought I heard it was only during the daytime (when you don't want to see half the girls naked). F39 is probably your best bet if you can't get down to Frankfurt on short notice.
Trans Atlantic
07-07-13, 01:38
Magnum is a sauna club. F39 in bochum is an fkk club. Finca erotica in dierdorf is a fkk club but I wouldn't recommend it. Frankfurt is the place to go for fkk clubs, NWR is known more for the sauna clubs and lower prices. Dolce vita might be an fkk club but thought I heard it was only during the daytime (when you don't want to see half the girls naked). F39 is probably your best bet if you can't get down to frankfurt on short notice.I don't think DV is ever FKK. Haus Panthera is FKK on the weekend (starting Thursday).
Banana Boi
07-07-13, 02:29
I don't think DV is ever FKK.Supposedly before 8 pm but I've been before 8 pm and girls were not nude.
Magnum is fully clothed. I think I saw 3 topless girls at magnum tonight. On the contrary, tons of topless ACA girls today.
I think Magnum is fully nude but the line-up has been poor. How about Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf?Unless things have changed since they put the entry price up, girls in Dolce Vita are naked before 8pm on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesdays only.
There are many FKKs, some have beautiful girls, some not. And even fewer have beautiful girls that offer high service (DFK, DATY, CIM, CIF, etc).
ACA is a great club, but the beauties there often offer bad service, like in GT. Samya, Magnum and DV are even worse on the service front, but have beautiful girls. Bernds, Freude, Residenz, Babylon and Panthera have high service girls, but only the last two clubs have also enough good looking girls to enjoy a full day there.
Enjoy!
Banana Boi
07-07-13, 09:44
Babylon and Panthera have high service girls, but only the last two clubs have also enough good looking girls to enjoy a full day there.
Enjoy!Do I have to go to Panthera on a Friday or Saturday to see the good looking girls or will there be some present on a Sunday (ie. tonight) and Monday night as well?
Do I have to go to Panthera on a Friday or Saturday to see the good looking girls or will there be some present on a Sunday (ie. tonight) and Monday night as well?Pathera website shows which girls are on duty.
http://www.hauspanthera.de/pantheragirls/pantheragirls.html
Do I have to go to Panthera on a Friday or Saturday to see the good looking girls or will there be some present on a Sunday (ie. tonight) and Monday night as well?Hey Banana Boi,
I was at Panthera on the Sunday. Lineup was small with about 15 girls when I left around 9pm. A few mentionables from the Panthera thread were there Andrea who has been praised was present as was Sabrina and Denisa who was awesome BTW. Very few girls made my hour long list or do twice list but if time allowed Denisa would made both a few times. Otherwise Panthera was a bust. Denisa saved the day for me at least.
Cheers
Jimmy Boy 99
07-10-13, 18:16
Good news for those who like black women (and a warning for those who don't). Went Tuesday of last week to the club. Of the 16-17 women I saw while I was there, at least six (perhaps seven) of them were black, the highest amount in percentage terms and in absolute numbers I have ever seen in any club in my seven years of going to sauna clubs and FKKs. The bad news is that all of them except one were fat and unattractive. The one good one (to my taste) was a light-skinned 24 year-old girl from Belgium named Imam with a beautiful face and tall, slim, model type body. Her only defect was she had saggy, flat tits, which I hate with a passion. It took me some time to overcome my aversion to her tits but I eventually did and had an OK session with her.
Nevermind. Replying to a very old post.
All For Bb
07-16-13, 05:12
I posted in FAQ and chatting area with no response, so I have to post it here. Any one can advise if first 10-15 days of August is good to visit fkk in terms of girl line up? Thanks for your opinions.
Treble Machine
07-16-13, 10:14
I posted in FAQ and chatting area with no response, so I have to post it here. Any one can advise if first 10-15 days of August is good to visit fkk in terms of girl line up? Thanks for your opinions.Probably not really the best time of the year to visit since some of the girls will be back home on holidays as most of the customers do.
I often visit the Hesse area during that time of the year and while I reckon that you might run into some slow days in clubs, I never had any overtly disappointing experiences. I'm sure you'll find something worth your time and moneys.
As usual I will be visiting Frankfurt on the 8th and 9th of August and then NRW about a week after that.
I posted in FAQ and chatting area with no response, so I have to post it here. Any one can advise if first 10-15 days of August is good to visit fkk in terms of girl line up? Thanks for your opinions.We cannot guarantee the future. I have no idea which FKK you refer to. World line-up just went bad and not clear why. Oase would be expected to be good early August. Lavinia told me she leaves 12 August. Other girls, I have no idea. If one club is not so great, try another one.
Most guys are ignoring questions that are a bit vague or not very interesting.
All For Bb
07-17-13, 13:03
We cannot guarantee the future. I have no idea which FKK you refer to. World line-up just went bad and not clear why. Oase would be expected to be good early August. Lavinia told me she leaves 12 August. Other girls, I have no idea. If one club is not so great, try another one.
Most guys are ignoring questions that are a bit vague or not very interesting.Thanks!
Plan to visit Palace, world, oase, symya, gt, LR and vv August 2-7. Please further advise.
Thanks again!
Thanks!
Plan to visit Palace, world, oase, symya, gt, LR and vv August 2-7. Please further advise.
Thanks again!Don't you ever worry you might like some place too much, and not want to move on? I have only done 3 clubs in the last 3 years! A few others before that. After all this time, I am still identifying girls I would really like to try.
Banana Boi
07-20-13, 13:56
Lately I've been reading more and more about upsell tactics for FRA girls. Sure we all knew about it at Palace but the Palace effect seems to be rubbing off on Oase and Mainhattan now. Luckily World seems to be relatively untouched here (although I've experienced it at World in the past). On my past 3 trips I have only had 1 upsell after getting in to the room and it happened with the ONLY FRA girl I went with, Katalea at Mainhattan. IMO it ruined my session with who I consider a pretty good looking, nice girl. The upsell just ruins the flow of a session for me. Maybe I've just been lucky cause I don't recall any upsell from any NRW girls in the past 6 months.
Lately I've been reading more and more about upsell tactics for FRA girls. Sure we all knew about it at Palace but the Palace effect seems to be rubbing off on Oase and Mainhattan now. Luckily World seems to be relatively untouched here (although I've experienced it at World in the past). On my past 3 trips I have only had 1 upsell after getting in to the room and it happened with the ONLY FRA girl I went with, Katalea at Mainhattan. IMO it ruined my session with who I consider a pretty good looking, nice girl. The upsell just ruins the flow of a session for me. Maybe I've just been lucky cause I don't recall any upsell from any NRW girls in the past 6 months.Its easy to figure out, the extras are double in FRA compared to NRW. Cim is 50 compared to 25, anal is 100 compared to 50. Girls can make more in FRA compared to the clubs up north. Always wondered what drove some FRA girls to the NRW clubs (besides their pimps).
What I find interesting is the amount of girls I've run across these last few trips who ask that you ' don't' cum in their mouth.
Upselling is one thing, but if you don't agree with it, and then the girl decides to lower her (standard) service is very irritating IMHO (see "no more kissing in Oase, only when session is Euro 100 or more" discussion in Oase thread).
I have an 8 hour layover in FRA and if I was to go to one or the other, which one should I go to? Palace or Mainhatten? Not my first time mongering (experience in Hong Kong / Macau and North America) but will be first time to FKK scene. Which one is better? I plan on spending most of my time at one with some time either before or after to explore downtown Frankfurt.
Variety of girls? Nationalities? Should I go from 1200-1700 or 1400-1900? Number of girls to expect at each club?
I've been reading the forums on both of these and there is a lot of information but I'm still having a hard time deciding between the two.
Thanks in advance.
I have been studying this forum and the info is very helpful but yet a bit too much to try to take in at once. My mind is kind of just going crazy. I have been to Tijuana before and that was pretty great. If these fkk clubs are like Adalitas for example then I will be one happy man. I have traveled the world for work and find it to be not easy but not as difficult as one might think (somehow I didn't know about this area and never actually had a layover in Frankfurt). I could read here and I have been for days and still be confused on a plan of action. Here is my travel schedule. Arrive This Tues at 1130am. 10 hour layover flight leaves at 930pm. Coming back thru I get in at 625am and don't leave until the next day at 6pm. Here was my tentative plan from what I have read. I also like looking at a bunch of different girls and selecting what I like. Sometimes I am in it just for the optifuck aspect anyway so if service is not terrible but ok then I will be all set.
My plan for stop 1 (10 hour layover) Take train to rld and check out a few buildings with the stairs (I am vey fit and stairs are ok) and see if I can find a cheap hottie for a quickie. Then take a train then walk? To the palace. Check that out and see if the is any real good looking girls hang out for 2-3 hours and then head back to the Airport. What time should I have to leave the Palace is my flight was at 930pm international flight? I am assuming 6pm should be ok? Right after shift change at the club? Again service matters but I really just want to see a bunch of hot girls strutting around and pick the few I like.
Next I have about 36 hours a month later. Plan was then with more time to obviously cruise the rld just because I might never again be able to do this. Then Go to oase for a long while then check out mainhatten, sleep some at a hotel (not booked yet) the go back to whichever place I think was the best for a final run before I leave possibly for ever. So I have Oase, Palace, and Mainhatten in that order as the best places to go, am I missing out on World? For the first trip with just a ten hour layover I didn't want to rush to Oase and I was going to visit the palace. I really like a good selection of girls in my search for my favorite club. I heard that is a bad first place but I am pretty comfortable in these situations. How hot are these girls is what I have been wondering because around here in the USA it is pathetic in this type of scene (which is nonexistent). So any help on the above even links to good directions or train maps would be appreciated.
Last I have been reading about other places where it is around 90E and you get to choose three girls. Do any of these places have a good selection or nothing like an fkk? I don't mind the quickie sessions as it is sometimes very easy for me anyway, I just want a lot of different girls. Obviously I don't want to get screwed over or overpay but I will be cautious of the "sharking" I have read about. Sorry for the long drawn out post but I will return with a report on my trip.
Thanks for everyones help in advance.
If I were you, I would go to Palace first. If you like it, stay there until you have to leave for the Airport. If you don't like it, go see the RLD. This is more relaxed I think, especially if you like Palace.
Second trip: I would go for quality over quantity, so I would go for Oase on day 1 (but not before 15:00) and stay there till you drop. And go to a nice hotel close by (Mercure, etc). The next day go for Mainhattan OR World (the latter is further from the airport, so maybe only Mainhattan).
Looking forward to your reports!
If I were you, I would go to Palace first. If you like it, stay there until you have to leave for the Airport. If you don't like it, go see the RLD. This is more relaxed I think, especially if you like Palace.Does Palace still have the businessman's special? If you leave before 2 hours you get refunded part of your admission.
Arrive This Tues at 1130am. 10 hour layover flight leaves at 930pm.
My plan for stop 1 (10 hour layover) Take train to rld and check out a few buildings with the stairs (I am vey fit and stairs are ok) and see if I can find a cheap hottie for a quickie. Then take a train then walk? To the palace. Check that out and see if the is any real good looking girls hang out for 2-3 hours and then head back to the Airport. What time should I have to leave the Palace is my flight was at 930pm international flight? I am assuming 6pm should be ok? Right after shift change at the club? Again service matters but I really just want to see a bunch of hot girls strutting around and pick the few I like.This type of layover was recently discussed. If you have your next leg's ticket in your hand before you arrive in Frankfurt, you can stay longer in Frankfurt since you don't have to wait in any lines to get a boarding pass printed. Only question is do they hold your checked luggage for this long of a layover?
Travelforfun
07-27-13, 08:39
Hi all.
Are there any reports about Heaven 7 on the forum. Can't seem to find any.
Would like to know if anyone's been there lately and could kindly share some info about it.
If these fkk clubs are like Adalitas for example then I will be one happy man.If you found Adelitas great, you will feel that any FKK is paradise.
Hi all.
Are there any reports about Heaven 7 on the forum. Can't seem to find any.
Would like to know if anyone's been there lately and could kindly share some info about it.It is a typical low-end club. Prices are low (30 euro for 20 minutes) , sometimes you can be lucky with a nice girl with good service, but most of time that is low-end too. If you like small and cheap clubs, and want nice girls with good service, better go to Neby, Luder Lounge, Goch or Panthera.
H7 is 30E for 30 minutes. Mostly girls that are new to the job and lately I hear it has become more common to ask for extra if you want to DFK or finger her.
How hot are these girls is what I have been wondering because around here in the USA it is pathetic in this type of scene (which is nonexistent).I suspect you'll be very happy with the options in Frankfurt. I find the FKK girls at the three clubs I've been to compare favorably to girls in US strip clubs. I used to frequent that scene, but now there's no point and I just save my cash for my next trip to Germany. You'll find an older and / or fatter girl here and there, but most FKK girls are hotter than US strippers and they often have better attitudes. The sight of a club full of really hot, young girls who are all available is something you can easily get hooked on.
I often do as you suggest and stop by the RLD for a warm-up quickie. The service there is variable and you really need to be careful or you'll get ripped off, especially at Rotes Haus. There is more of a variety of girls there in terms of quality, but there are some girls who are every bit as attractive as FKK girls and some are actually quite sweet. The area is somewhat seedy, but for some people that adds to the adventure. It's safe, you just need to be sure to spell out exactly what you want and how much you want to pay. I've had good experiences there, but I've been ripped off a few times too. I've had no serious problems and 20 Euros for a bad fuck with a bitchy (but hot) Polish girl who won't take her bra off is still kind of a good deal if you're used to the US scene. Just don't assume anything is included-tell her up front exactly what you want.
Palace is my least favorite FKK club in the area, I prefer Oase and Mainhatten. But for your first layover it might be logical to go there as Oase is father away and Mainhatten, while it's probably my favorite, is smaller and maybe not the best choice so early in the day. (Although I'm not sure how good Palace's lineup will be either.) Palace is really the most like a US strip club, the girls are aggressive. It's not really a big deal but it does ruin the atmosphere somewhat. Last time I was there I was somewhat disappointed by the lineup, too much makeup, lots of silicone.
The girls at Oase are more girl-next-door types and in my experience they're the most fun while trying to get your business. They're not aggressive like at Palace but if you show interest they will be very, very friendly at the bar or on the couch.
I like Mainhatten since the girls are attractive and friendly. I've always had good service there. Even for basic 50 Euro sessions, I've always had the option for BBB, DFK and DATY. It's smaller and there is not as much variety, but if you're in to thin, model-type girls (mostly Romanian) , you'll probably find plenty of girls you will like. I was there once on a Saturday morning and the lineup was pretty good, but I'm not sure about weekday mornings.
Others have offered some good advice, so I won't repeat it. Have fun!
I find the FKK girls at the three clubs I've been to compare favorably to girls in US strip clubs. I used to frequent that scene, but now there's no point and I just save my cash for my next trip to Germany. You'll find an older and / or fatter girl here and there, but most FKK girls are hotter than US strippers and they often have better attitudes.They match up somewhat to stripclubs everywhere I've visited. I don't think there's a stripclub anywhere where all of the girls are smoking hot. There's always half a dozen choices at every club that will make you wish you brought just a bit more cash and had another day to spend with them.
Am I correct in saying stripclubs don't have the draw in Europe as they do in the states? If a girl wants to make extra money, its not stripclubs they go to first.
They match up somewhat to stripclubs everywhere I've visited. I don't think there's a stripclub anywhere where all of the girls are smoking hot. There's always half a dozen choices at every club that will make you wish you brought just a bit more cash and had another day to spend with them.
Am I correct in saying stripclubs don't have the draw in Europe as they do in the states? If a girl wants to make extra money, its not stripclubs they go to first.Stripclubs are kind of frustrating when you live in Europe. Of course there can be nice looking girls, but not be able to go all the way with them, is like going to a restaurant, look at the menu, smell the great dishes in the kitchen, and then go away without eating!
Visited the USA regularly, did visit a stripclub few times, and was really surprised that so many men pay so many money for a lap dance only!
Of course it is different legislation overthere, so officially it is the best you can get, but still.
(remember The Gold Club, which seemed a hig-end place, with really gorgeous girls. But as said, very frustrating you could not go all the way; similar looking girls you will find in Club Globe (Switzerland) and on some good days in Oase, and then you can have DFK, OWO, CIM/CIF, etc with them!!!)
Visited the USA regularly, did visit a stripclub few times, and was really surprised that so many men pay so many money for a lap dance only!In the USA only millionaires are allowed to enjoy the pleasures of life. Everybody else must concentrate on work. Germany is more egalitarian. The middle classes also get a chance to enjoy casual sex with multiple partners.
Hessen Bub
08-13-13, 16:18
Germany is more egalitarian. The middle classes also get a chance to enjoy casual sex with multiple partners.The point is, Germany (for now) does still have a middle class.
HB
In the USA only millionaires are allowed to enjoy the pleasures of life. Everybody else must concentrate on work. Germany is more egalitarian. The middle classes also get a chance to enjoy casual sex with multiple partners.More egalitarian could be true. The thing is, I don't understand the millionaires in the US: they should fly to Germany, have 3 days of FKK fun and fly back. Including hotel, food and sex, this is even cheaper than e decent escort in the USA (BTW, I know of several Americans who do this, but I am surprised not much more people come over for this).
The thing is, I don't understand the millionaires in the US: they should fly to Germany, have 3 days of FKK fun and fly back. Including hotel, food and sex, this is even cheaper than e decent escort in the USA.Absulotely true! In fact, even if they flew with private jet, the expenses would probably still be below the cost of high quality p4p in the USA.
Stripclubs are kind of frustrating when you live in Europe. Of course there can be nice looking girls, but not be able to go all the way with them, is like going to a restaurant, look at the menu, smell the great dishes in the kitchen, and then go away without eating!
Visited the USA regularly, did visit a stripclub few times, and was really surprised that so many men pay so many money for a lap dance only!All across Latin America, you can fuck the girls who work the strip clubs. Sometimes there is no fucking on premises, but the chicas tend to be available for FS sex. This is as it should be. Sample the "appetizers", then sate your appetite with a "full course meal".
Ciao guys. I'll be planning a short NRW tour, sometime this autumn. Going to be a 2/3 days trip, probably visiting 3/4 clubs at the max.
My only experience in the area was a trip involving flying in Koln and then visiting Bernds, Samya and PSR (twice). The last one was probably the one I enjoyed more. It was a real fun trip, with a great wingman. This time I guess I could fly in to Dusseldorf and move from there. I need some basic info so to start reading the correct threads and see the logistics. Here we go:
1) Which are the big names? The clubs one shouldn't miss if being in that area (Dusseldorf). I know it's a taste matter but, just to have an idea and a starting point. FKK or Sauna club for me is the same (I'm one of the few that actually loves dessous tags). In general I prefer big clubs (ie. Artemis, Palace, Paradise, Andiamo). As for girls, not a silicones fan, but for sure into suicide girl look, tattoos etc. I think the logistic in that area requires renting a car but I'd really like to avoid it, moving around in public transp + taxis, if possible.
2) I tend to avoid weekends and would think about doing the tour on days like wed / thu / fri. Makes sense in that area?
Thanks for any help or pointers.
Kimino
Hessen Bub
08-22-13, 08:15
1) Which are the big names? The clubs one shouldn't miss if being in that area (Dusseldorf).
2) I tend to avoid weekends and would think about doing the tour on days like wed / thu / fri. Makes sense in that area?Ad 2) makes sense, NRW clubs tend to be overcrowded on Friday and Saturday.
Ad 1) : I suggest to visit GoldenTime (maybe in combination with LivingRoom on the same day to see if you like the club) , Acapulco and maybe Happy Garden. I heard that Villa Vertigo's line-up is very poor. Those are IMHO the clubs to see in NRW.
HB
Ad 2) makes sense, NRW clubs tend to be overcrowded on Friday and Saturday.
Ad 1) : I suggest to visit GoldenTime (maybe in combination with LivingRoom on the same day to see if you like the club) , Acapulco and maybe Happy Garden. I heard that Villa Vertigo's line-up is very poor. Those are IMHO the clubs to see in NRW.
HBWow, thanks so much for the quick answer HB. I start planning!
Best, Kimino.
Ciao guys. I'll be planning a short NRW tour, sometime this autumn. Going to be a 2/3 days trip, probably visiting 3/4 clubs at the max.
I think the logistic in that area requires renting a car but I'd really like to avoid it, moving around in public transp + taxis, if possible.
Thanks for any help or pointers.
KiminoI spent three days in Panthera this summer (a report is on it's way) and I think that it is worth to take in consideration, and it's only 6-7 km to the airport.
Thu-Fri-Sat are FKK-days.
T
Ciao guys. I'll be planning a short NRW tour, sometime this autumn. Going to be a 2/3 days trip, probably visiting 3/4 clubs at the max.
My only experience in the area was a trip involving flying in Koln and then visiting Bernds, Samya and PSR (twice). The last one was probably the one I enjoyed more. It was a real fun trip, with a great wingman. This time I guess I could fly in to Dusseldorf and move from there. I need some basic info so to start reading the correct threads and see the logistics. Here we go:
1) Which are the big names? The clubs one shouldn't miss if being in that area (Dusseldorf). I know it's a taste matter but, just to have an idea and a starting point. FKK or Sauna club for me is the same (I'm one of the few that actually loves dessous tags). In general I prefer big clubs (ie. Artemis, Palace, Paradise, Andiamo). As for girls, not a silicones fan, but for sure into suicide girl look, tattoos etc. I think the logistic in that area requires renting a car but I'd really like to avoid it, moving around in public transp + taxis, if possible.
2) I tend to avoid weekends and would think about doing the tour on days like wed / thu / fri. Makes sense in that area?
Thanks for any help or pointers.
KiminoIf you are a newbee and like high service girls, AVOID Golden Time, Planet Happy Garden, Acapulco and Villa Vertigo!
Go for smaller service clubs, like Haus Panthera or Babylon. 20-25 girls, which in general offfer full GF6 without annoying upselling, like in the bigger clubs.
Enjoy!
If you are a newbee and like high service girls, AVOID Golden Time, Planet Happy Garden, Acapulco and Villa Vertigo!
Go for smaller service clubs, like Haus Panthera or Babylon. 20-25 girls, which in general offfer full GF6 without annoying upselling, like in the bigger clubs.
Enjoy!Which ones around Frankfurt would be considered smaller service clubs?
If you are a newbee and like high service girls, AVOID Golden Time, Planet Happy Garden, Acapulco and Villa Vertigo!
Go for smaller service clubs, like Haus Panthera or Babylon. 20-25 girls, which in general offfer full GF6 without annoying upselling, like in the bigger clubs.
Enjoy!Ciao Maxime and thanks for the input. I'm a newbee for the NRW area but I'm kind of a frequent tourist in other clubs. Much too frequent lately. LOL.
Gathered all the info on the sites and ISG, made a Google map and now ready to go. Logistics is crazy, so I'll definitely rent a car for a couple of days. I'll be in Berlin next month but after that I'll give NRW a try, finally, and report back.
Thanks to all!
Kimino
Banana Boi
08-22-13, 23:51
1) Which are the big names? The clubs one shouldn't miss if being in that area (Dusseldorf). I know it's a taste matter but, just to have an idea and a starting point. FKK or Sauna club for me is the same (I'm one of the few that actually loves dessous tags). In general I prefer big clubs (ie. Artemis, Palace, Paradise, Andiamo). As for girls, not a silicones fan, but for sure into suicide girl look, tattoos etc. I think the logistic in that area requires renting a car but I'd really like to avoid it, moving around in public transp + taxis, if possible.
2) I tend to avoid weekends and would think about doing the tour on days like wed / thu / fri. Makes sense in that area?Like yourself I do not like silicone and I like the suicide girl look with tattoos. Out of all the clubs I've been to GT is likely the one with the most tattooed girls.
For all the NRW clubs I have been to since October. 2012, here is an ordered list of which clubs I think have the best looking girls. My preference is slim cute girls under 25 with full perky natural breasts large or small. A a cute/pretty face is a must.
I do not go at low times of the season like Romanian Easter, end of Summer (ie. Now) , and Christmas.
(1) GT. Over 20 visits.
(2) ACA. 10-15 visits.
(3) PHG. Only 3 visits all on last trip.
(4) Samya. Over 5 visits.
(5) DV. Only twice.
(6) Magnum. 4 visits.
(7) Yin Yang. Only been once.
(8) Penelope. Only been once.
Sorry I haven't been to LR yet or any of the "service" clubs that Maxime has mentioned to compare looks. I am curious to try Haus Panthera.
Wed-Fri in the NRW clubs are fine. I actually prefer Tue-Thu in NRW clubs. I actually find the best night at GT to be Tue since it seems like a lot of nice girls who don't work Sun and Mon show up on Tue, plus you get the ones who only work weekdays like Emy / Amy.
You definitely need a car in the NRW area. The west clubs are GT PHG LR YY. The east clubs are ACA Pen. The "downtown" clubs are Magnum DV and LR is fairly close. The south club in Cologne is Samya.
Hope that helps a bit. Have fun Kimino looking forward to your reports no matter where you choose to go.
Trans Atlantic
08-23-13, 02:54
Kimino,
Since you mentioned you are not a FKK newbie, you would know what your preferences are.
As others have mentioned.
If young and optically good looking, Aca / GT-LR / PHG / DV.
If service is more important, Panthera and (based on comments; I haven't been myself) , PSR and others.
I would avoid Magnum.
Just converted my flights for the beginning of October (2/3) from Berlin to Dusseldorf. Going to be a short trip (wed + thu) , but enough to get an idea of some of the clubs.
Basically I'll land in the morning, grab a car and head to GT. Later on head to Living Room and probably close the evening there. Get a place to sleep and next morning go to Acapulco. See how it goes and maybe drop in Panthera on the way back to the airport. Flight leaving around 21:00. Piece of cake. LOL. Plan might change except the flights.
Kimino
Trans Atlantic
08-23-13, 07:43
Just converted my flights for the beginning of October (2/3) from Berlin to Dusseldorf. Going to be a short trip (wed + thu) , but enough to get an idea of some of the clubs.
Basically I'll land in the morning, grab a car and head to GT. Later on head to Living Room and probably close the evening there. Get a place to sleep and next morning go to Acapulco. See how it goes and maybe drop in Panthera on the way back to the airport. Flight leaving around 21:00. Piece of cake. LOL. Plan might change except the flights.
KiminoGoing to GT on Wed and saving Thur for another club is a good idea. FYI Aca / Panthera will both be quiet on Thurs until the late afternoon.
This is something I remember reading about but couldn't find. My keywords weren't good enough apparently. Are there policies that prevent girls from coming and going as they want? That is, are there official shifts or requirements? Does it vary by club? I assume the girl could leave at closing and return at opening. But beyond that?
And of course a set of price guidelines from the experts would be appreciated. Overnight? Overnight + afternoon until 6 PM? Etc.
Thanks from a longtime lurker!
FYI Aca / Panthera will both be quiet on Thurs until the late afternoon.If everything is back to normal after vacation time, then there will be enough girls sleeping in Aca and Panthera so that the line-up is OK the whole day.
T
This is something I remember reading about but couldn't find. My keywords weren't good enough apparently. Are there policies that prevent girls from coming and going as they want? That is, are there official shifts or requirements? Does it vary by club? I assume the girl could leave at closing and return at opening. But beyond that?
And of course a set of price guidelines from the experts would be appreciated. Overnight? Overnight + afternoon until 6 PM? Etc.
Thanks from a longtime lurker!Highly unlikely your going to get a girl to come back to your hotel unless you offer her insane money. You probably read about girls going back to a guys place because she didn't have a place to stay and knew him really well.
Hessen Bub
08-23-13, 21:45
This is something I remember reading about but couldn't find. My keywords weren't good enough apparently. Are there policies that prevent girls from coming and going as they want? That is, are there official shifts or requirements? Does it vary by club? I assume the girl could leave at closing and return at opening. But beyond that?
And of course a set of price guidelines from the experts would be appreciated. Overnight? Overnight + afternoon until 6 PM? Etc.
Thanks from a longtime lurker!There are shifts, varying club by club. Most (all?) girls have fines for the girls if they find out they meet a customer outside, they might even get thrown out. Or you have to pay the dlub to take the girl out officially (130€ at Oase) plus the money for the girl. I've seen guys do it, I wouldn't.
HB
I'm not sure it's really that common to have fines for this kind of thing. I know it happens fairly regularly in LR (the ISA hotel 100 yards over) , and I know about a 'couple' that arrives and leaves together in PSR and Babylon (with the guy paying both entry fees). That being said, maybe they just work around the club in some way. I've had Hessen girls start about meeting up outside as well (very few, but it has happened) , but as of yet never done it.
Trans Atlantic
08-24-13, 02:51
If everything is back to normal after vacation time, then there will be enough girls sleeping in Aca and Panthera so that the line-up is OK the whole day.
T
From what I have seen in Feb/Mar/Apr, a normal Thursday at HP before 3pm is 4-5 girls and 3-5 mongers.
TheNewDude
08-24-13, 19:37
What is the difference between a fkk club a sauna club and a brothel? I just moved here from a place that had "massage parlors". I think I want to hit a brothel, but don't know what it is really, or where to find one. I appreciate the help.
From what I have seen in Feb/Mar/Apr, a normal Thursday at HP before 3pm is 4-5 girls and 3-5 mongers.Then maybe the summer is much better then the winter in Panthera. I was there on a Thursday in July. I arrived a bit after noon and there was at least 15 girls present. An other guest I talked to that was there the day before (Wednesday) and said that the line up was just as good.
T
Banana Boi
08-24-13, 23:09
The good thing about Panthera is the club shows how many girls are working. 22 girls on a Saturday night.
Any other clubs with daily updated schedules? FKK Harmony in Hamburg also has 22 tonight. Samya has 44 girls tonight.
Banana Boi
08-24-13, 23:28
The most girls I have ever seen working in a club at one time this past year would be:
(1) Oase. 90+
(2) ACA. 80+ (surprisingly a Wednesday night before a German public holiday)
(3) GT. 70+
(4) World. 70+
(5) Samya. 60+
The most girls I have ever seen working in a club at one time this past year would be:
(1) Oase. 90+
(2) ACA. 80+ (surprisingly a Wednesday night before a German public holiday)
(3) GT. 70+
(4) World. 70+
(5) Samya. 60+And if I had to rank these club scenarios in order of preference, I would prefer to enter:
1. Oase with 90+ girls.
2. World with 70+
3. GT with whatever + girls
4. Samya with 60+, I'll take it, but too crowded. I'd prefer 45-50 girls, a managable number.
5. AcA: For me doesn't compete with the other clubs.
Trans Atlantic
08-25-13, 03:43
Then maybe the summer is much better then the winter in Panthera. I was there on a Thursday in July. I arrived a bit after noon and there was at least 15 girls present. An other guest I talked to that was there the day before (Wednesday) and said that the line up was just as good.
THope they maintain those numbers during my next visit in Nov.
Highly unlikely your going to get a girl to come back to your hotel unless you offer her insane money. You probably read about girls going back to a guys place because she didn't have a place to stay and knew him really well.Many of the Asian girls at the Palace were okay with private meetings (most of these girls are gone now) and I presume the prices were not too insane. Roberta at Oase wanted to go home with me, but I declined.
Asian girls have different ethics and are known to have met guys on a more social friendship basis, some maybe even looking for a boyfriend.
Hi guys,
Awesome job done here with the info. Thanks very much. Is there an fkk map on the site? (similar to the maps swinger lover has of ao events)
Thanks. Be over in early Sept.
Der Monger Map:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&hl=en&ie=UTF8&z=5
Looked all over the place and couldn't find it.
All For Bb
09-03-13, 02:02
I had two bad visits this year. One in Romania Easter, one in early August. Both period, line-up were bad. I plan to visit next weekend right before Frankfurt Auto Show. Anyone know the line-up situation now at FKKs? Will Frankfurt Auto Show influence the NW clubs like GT, Living Room, PHG, VV? Please advise. Thanks!
Banana Boi
09-03-13, 02:57
I had two bad visits this year. One in Romania Easter, one in early August. Both period, line-up were bad. I plan to visit next weekend right before Frankfurt Auto Show. Anyone know the line-up situation now at FKKs? Will Frankfurt Auto Show influence the NW clubs like GT, Living Room, PHG, VV? Please advise. Thanks!Damn guy bad timing on your previous two visits. The line ups should be closer to normal next weekend with just a few stragglers returning from vacation. The Frankfurt Messe shouldn't really affect the NRW clubs with the exception of a few girls going down to Frankfurt to work the Messe.
Does anyone here know if there is a Massage Place with European girls?
I only know these places and I reckon they are Asians.
1. HM Massage Center Frankfurtmore Kaiserstraße 72.
2. Thai Massage und Kosmetik Salon Songklin Fronzekmore Kaiserstraße 62.
3. TCM Wellness Center Frankfurtmore Kaiserstraße 60.
4. Jing Massage Studiomore Kaiserstraße 55.
Hessen Bub
09-03-13, 16:52
Wrong place to ask. You should ask in the non FKK Frankfurt section. There's some massage places with European girls. Check out ladies. De, go to Frankfurt and chose massage. There's also reports in the Frankfurt section.
HB
Wrong place to ask. You should ask in the non FKK Frankfurt section. There's some massage places with European girls. Check out ladies. De, go to Frankfurt and chose massage. There's also reports in the Frankfurt section.
HBSorry, I guess I haven't been doing my home work. This is what separates the men from the boyz. .
Thanks for the info. I will do some research
Are Fkk's nudist clubs or do most people wear dressing gown / towels? Looking to try a visit visit Mainhatten in Frankfurt in the next week not sure I'd be keen if is just nudist club.
CheekyDancer
09-05-13, 20:15
After scouting the forum finding out peoples views on FKK Globe in Zurich. I came up with a mixed bag of views on whether Globe is the pinnacle for quality women and service in the FKK scene. I wondered if anyone else had any views on this subject after recent visits. My questions are as follows:
1. Are the girls hotter pound for pound.
2. Is the difference in price worth the surroundings and quality of girls.
3. Is the service of a standard higher than that of your typical shark infested FKK?
4. Any other advice.
I am contemplating a little stop off there on my way to Germany from the South of France this year.
Regards.
Stoaty
1. Are the girls hotter pound for pound.There are probably more very good looking women working in Globe than in the German Mega FKK / Sauna Clubs (Artemis / GoldenTime / World / Oase / Palace / Colosseum).
However you are paying more or less double the price for your session in Switzerland and there are plenty of very good looking women in the German Mega FKK / Sauna Clubs.
2. Is the difference in price worth the surroundings and quality of girls.In my opinion the answer to this question is definitely no.
3. Is the service of a standard higher than that of your typical shark infested FKK?Again in my opinion the answer to this question is definitely no.
4. Any other advice.Be careful about using this term "typical shark infested FKK" as in my opinion this is a term used by guys who are not able to handle a twenty something year old girl and tends to be made by guys who are on the loose from their wifes apron strings for one weekend every year. No club is shark infested if you are a man and know what you are about. Guys who whine about "sharks" need to man up.
I am contemplating a little stop off there on my way to Germany from the South of France this year.Definitely do it. You won't be sorry.
Regards
CheekyDancer
09-06-13, 05:40
Thanks Captain Dan. I have been contemplating it for a while now as I will be passing through. Just bought a Motorhome and a little trek around Germany is in order.
On the subject of Sharks I feel the overwhelming need to re-assert myself as the man and say that I have never really had much problem with them. But it does seem to be the repeated banter of the forums. I guess I am lucky being such a good looking chap with a penis the size of a babies arm holding a still beating pigs heart.)
Joking aside. Would you say that Globe was the kind of place that one should experience once due to the price differential. A kind of Disneyland compared to a normal fairground.
Banana Boi
09-06-13, 06:29
Would you say that Globe was the kind of place that one should experience once due to the price differential. A kind of Disneyland compared to a normal fairground.Globe is overrated which I'm sure you've read me say if you read the Zurich forum. I went on a Fri or Sat night and personally didn't find the girls there better than the NRW or FRA clubs. Maybe just my taste. There was a nice blonde at Globe but she was more interested in sitting at a bar than working. There were some workers at Globe that were on the old side. I swear one was 50+. There were also some girls there who I had to say no to quite a few times. There is a live sex show. I didn't eat in the restaurant but I heard the food is good. Simex has reported there are other clubs in Zurich that have hotter girls than Globe but also cost much more than Globe. If I was in Zurich for business I would go again. Maybe I just hit Globe on their worst weekend night in club history. I would never drive to Zurich to go to Globe again. Too many good choices in NRW and FRA to waste time doing that.
Joking aside. Would you say that Globe was the kind of place that one should experience once due to the price differential. A kind of Disneyland compared to a normal fairground.
If you're looking for stunners and you have ample funds then you should check out Club Aphrodisia in Zurich city center. Half the line up there consists of ladies of at least 9s in looks and on the whole surpass Globe in terms of quality of line up but at a cost per session being that much higher.
Globe is going through a bit of a slow patch at the moment with respect to quality of line up because of the summer. The regulars still hang out there but the hot newbies visit but do not stay. However if you have favorites there, it's not a bad place to chill.
Both are different set ups. Globe is more of a Sauna club where you can relax and be entertained whilst Club Aphrodisia is a small (crowded) bar where you can drink and ogle.
If Globe is Disneyland then Aphrodisia would be considered to be the Playboy mansion. LOL.
Howie
Hessen Bub
09-06-13, 15:36
Are Fkk's nudist clubs or do most people wear dressing gown / towels? Looking to try a visit visit Mainhatten in Frankfurt in the next week not sure I'd be keen if is just nudist club.99% of the guys wear a robe or a towel.
HB
Nille Copenhagen
09-06-13, 19:31
99% of the guys wear a robe or a towel.
HBThe remaining 1% wear shorts or underpants LOL.
Would you say that Globe was the kind of place that one should experience once due to the price differential. A kind of Disneyland compared to a normal fairground.I would not build up your expectations to much with regards to FKK Globe. Sure when it is good it can be very good but sometimes it can be dissappointing (just as reported by Banana Boi Below). So yes, if you happen to be passing through (or near) Zurich, why not indeed pay a visit but to be honest I would much prefer to visit the German FKK / Sauna clubs as detailed in my earlier reply below.
Incidentally if you are travelling by motorhome it seems to be possible to park up and stay in the grounds of FKK Oase (it might be also possible to also do this in the grounds of FKK World). Handy if you are spending a few days in the one club. I would also suggest that if possible you should endeavour to either meet up with a few like minded individuals from this (or other) boards in order to enjoy the down time in the clubs. You might consider bringing along a buddy to share in the adventure. I would also suggest that you travel to one or two of these clubs for the weekend (by plane, train or automobile as opposed to motorhome) as a taster and to whet your appetite for the adventure ahead.
Nille Copenhagen
09-07-13, 11:51
After scouting the forum finding out peoples views on FKK Globe in Zurich. I came up with a mixed bag of views on whether Globe is the pinnacle for quality women and service in the FKK scene. I wondered if anyone else had any views on this subject after recent visits. My questions are as follows:
StoatyI would also agree that Globe is overrated, I would go the when I'm in town or have a stopover, but I wouldn't go there as a sex destination.
I know girls that have worked or are working in Globe, they are just like girls from Hessen and NRW FKK-standard, so the standard in Globe is similar, but for a higher price.
Maclaine79
09-09-13, 09:55
Hi Guys,
I transiting through Frankfurt and was planning a stopover between the 2nd and 4th of Oct. I just realized that 3rd is a public holiday and perhaps a bad to be out exploring FKK's. Would appreciate any inputs on whether Frankfurt would be completely shut down, would Oase / Mainhattan be closed or completely crowded. Appreciate any suggestions.
Cheers John
I have ben reading and I would like to know if there are areas in the clubs that are non smoking? I visited PSR and it was like sitting in a fog.
Any help!
I transiting through Frankfurt and was planning a stopover between the 2nd and 4th of Oct. I just realized that 3rd is a public holiday and perhaps a bad to be out exploring FKK's. Would appreciate any inputs on whether Frankfurt would be completely shut down, would Oase / Mainhattan be closed or completely crowded. Appreciate any suggestions.No problem, the shops will be shut but the clubs will be open for business as usual.
Dessous day at Oase though :(.
Nille Copenhagen
09-09-13, 21:19
I have ben reading and I would like to know if there are areas in the clubs that are non smoking? I visited PSR and it was like sitting in a fog. Any help!Many clubs are now non-smoking inside, normally the wellness areas are non-smoking. Which club do you have in mind to visit?
I have ben reading and I would like to know if there are areas in the clubs that are non smoking? I visited PSR and it was like sitting in a fog. Any help!Most clubs in NRW (at least) are totally smoke free since some months ago.
T
Banana Boi
09-09-13, 22:00
No problem, the shops will be shut but the clubs will be open for business as usual.Agreed. In fact the most girls I ever saw at ACA was on a Tuesday or Wednesday night before a German public holiday. The theke proudly announced there were 80 (?) girls working tonight. That night was a lot of fun! More girls than guys, as usual at ACA.
Trans Atlantic
09-09-13, 22:05
No problem, the shops will be shut but the clubs will be open for business as usual.
Dessous day at Oase though.
Agreed. In fact the most girls I ever saw at ACA was on a Tuesday or Wednesday night before a German public holiday. The theke proudly announced there were 80 (?) girls working tonight. That night was a lot of fun! More girls than guys, as usual at ACA.Any opinions on whether the clubs will be crowded?
Trans Atlantic
09-09-13, 22:09
Just wanted to get an opinion on whether I should the dates of my next trip.
I usually fly in across the pond on Wed evening (arrive DUS Thursday noon). I then usually head over to Aca / HP. On Fridays I usually drive over to GT / LR and Saturdays a new club follow by DV and fly back out on Sunday noon.
Any reasons I should spend time in a club on Sunday (and fly out Monday)? If so, which clubs?
Banana Boi
09-09-13, 22:21
I usually fly in across the pond on Wed evening (arrive DUS Thursday noon). I then usually head over to Aca / HP. On Fridays I usually drive over to GT / LR and Saturdays a new club follow by DV and fly back out on Sunday noon.
Any reasons I should spend time in a club on Sunday (and fly out Monday)? If so, which clubs?I recommend GT on a Sunday. You'd be surprised that the line up isn't that different than on a Saturday, at least when the weather is nice. Blame Yakob for the Sunday popularity among the polar bears though. ACA may only have 25-30 girls until 5 pm on a Sunday but there a quite a few decent ones most of the time. Since you're there Thursday ask the girls if they work Sunday and go with those ones on Sunday.
Since you don't really like LR anyways, be open to going to PHG if you enjoy lively clubs. It's the closest big club to GT (unless you consider YinYang a major club). When PHG closes at 3 AM the party moves over to ByNight where you will find a new group of girls available until 5 AM.
Most clubs in NRW (at least) are totally smoke free since some months ago.
TGolden Time never bothered to change their smoking rules and so you an smoke anywhere except in the wellness area but it still does no stop some customers to smoke there as well. Gives some credence to the jape that Golden Time is actually in the Netherlands and no in Germany.
Magnum started off no smoking on the first floor area except for the covered courtyard, with the penthouse area being kept smoking but that has fallen by the wayside.
Acapulco has maintained its main contact room as non smoking though and so has Living Room. So you see the girls donning robes to go outside for a smoke. Planet Eden sees the girls smoking outside as do the men. That is nice.
I agree, that at PSR it can be like the fog of war with all the smoking going on in the main lounge.
Nille Copenhagen
09-09-13, 22:24
Just wanted to get an opinion on whether I should the dates of my next trip.
I usually fly in across the pond on Wed evening (arrive DUS Thursday noon). I then usually head over to Aca / HP. On Fridays I usually drive over to GT / LR and Saturdays a new club follow by DV and fly back out on Sunday noon.
Any reasons I should spend time in a club on Sunday (and fly out Monday)? If so, which clubs?Well I enjoy the Sunday chill and sex. The girls are more relax as they have been partying, fucking and make lots of money on Friday and Saturday. So there is no rush to get customers on Sunday, I've spend lot of couch time with the girls and chill out then I had a few sessions went the mood arise.
In NRW good Sunday clubs would be VV, GT, PHG, ACA, LR, yes almost all clubs are good for Sundays, some girls would not be working on Sundays. But there should be other fishes in the sea to have fun with. So just do it.
Hi Guys,
I transiting through Frankfurt and was planning a stopover between the 2nd and 4th of Oct. I just realized that 3rd is a public holiday and perhaps a bad to be out exploring FKK's. Would appreciate any inputs on whether Frankfurt would be completely shut down, would Oase / Mainhattan be closed or completely crowded. Appreciate any suggestions.
Cheers JohnShould be good. You are after the IAA Messe and in between the period before the Book Messe begins in the week after. Even I wanted to have the day in the FKKs on 3 October but my boss is making me work my fingers to the bone on that day. So I hope that helps as indicative that it is expected that the FKKs should be good at that time.
Trans Atlantic
09-10-13, 00:20
I recommend GT on a Sunday. You'd be surprised that the line up isn't that different than on a Saturday, at least when the weather is nice. Blame Yakob for the Sunday popularity among the polar bears though. ACA may only have 25-30 girls until 5 pm on a Sunday but there a quite a few decent ones most of the time. Since you're there Thursday ask the girls if they work Sunday and go with those ones on Sunday.
Since you don't really like LR anyways, be open to going to PHG if you enjoy lively clubs. It's the closest big club to GT (unless you consider YinYang a major club). When PHG closes at 3 AM the party moves over to ByNight where you will find a new group of girls available until 5 AM.Is GT any better than Sun vs Thurs? I'll take a look at PHG again in November. Maybe check out Six Sens as well.
I'll prefer GT on Sunday than Thursday. It's "Gaytime" on Thursday. Longs waits for rooms and girl ratio drops at peak hours.
Is GT any better than Sun vs Thurs? I'll take a look at PHG again in November. Maybe check out Six Sens as well.
Banana Boi
09-15-13, 02:31
Is there a reason there's a "Main Forum Threads" and a "User Threads"? I can't differentiate the difference between the 2 and there are sauna clubs like Magnum, Planet Eden, and "Other FKK Clubs" not in the "Main Forums Threads".
Is there a way I can fix how I view this? Not understanding why I need to scroll down 20-30 lines to view some of the threads that are way more current than many in the "Main Forum Threads".
BB I have the same problem. It is making the forum (whose structure already makes it difficult to extract information) even more impenetrable.
SwingerLover
09-15-13, 13:54
This started roughly at the same time when the Germany Venues Categories thread and the Germany AO Clubs thread (which is still lacking Main Forum Threads) got started. I too preferred the Main Forum Threads as they were before (Gen In, Trav Ann, ROD etc) and all the club-threads seperated as User Threads. It was easier to handle.
I think it best if we let Jackson move forward with the planned changes to all the Germany Forums. I believe that the new structure will be of benefit to all.
Personally I believe that the larger and more luxurious FKK / Sauna Clubs should be the main focus as these are the clubs which receive most visitors and are reported on the most. This is how all the main German, Dutch and French forums are more or less organised. Smaller clubs could be on a second page (or sub-page). This would lead to less confusion. But this is just my opinion. Jackson will have his own opinion and I'm sure his planned forum re-organisation will produce improvements.
OfficeMatt
09-16-13, 01:30
BB I have the same problem. It is making the forum (whose structure already makes it difficult to extract information) even more impenetrable.I thought I was the only one who found this forum difficult to navigate.
PussyLiccker
09-16-13, 01:31
I was wondering where I can find the most nordic lookin (blond blue eyes) German girls. I've heard Hamburg since it's close to Scandinavia. Is that true? If so, which clubs and houses do they usually work at there?
I was wondering where I can find the most nordic lookin (blond blue eyes) German girls. I've heard Hamburg since it's close to Scandinavia. Is that true? If so, which clubs and houses do they usually work at there?Artemis is close to Poland with the blondies coming from there. Also many local German girls from Hamburg, Hanover and Brandenburg do their thing at Artemis because Berlin is easier to get to from those places.
In the NRW area, my experience is that Golden Time is probably the best representative of what you look for. Most other places are full of the same looking Romanians.
As an interesting statistic, I read that one in six Romanians work outside of Romania, mainly heading to Western European countries to find work. And that 80,000 Romanians work in the sex industry. That is like a whole generation that make the living from the pay for fucking. So you may think at some stage there is a high chance that if your mother was a Romanian in this period she used to work in this sex industry job.
CheekyDancer
09-16-13, 05:27
With so many of the clubs now filling up with cheeky Romanian I pose the question. Where are all the tall blond Gazelles these days. I am on tour from October and like the German, Russian, Ukrainian leggy blonds. Which clubs would you recommend to find these women folk?.
With so many of the clubs now filling up with cheeky Romanian I pose the question. Where are all the tall blond Gazelles these days. I am on tour from October and like the German, Russian, Ukrainian leggy blonds. Which clubs would you recommend to find these women folk?.Similar answer as given to Pussyliccer. From what I have seen the venues would be Golden Time in NRW area, Artemis in Berlin and Palace in Frankfurt.
Member #4654
09-16-13, 20:59
The number is parenthesis is the (approx) number of rooms at the respective club. I remember faces very well, but bad with names (sorry). For me, as a rough idea on my taste, a 9.5 is Marie German from Cola in terms of looks. Service is important to me as well and prefer at least a 7.5 or 8 in service, but unless you try (or have a reliable source) the girl, it's difficult to gauge on service level. Needless to say, everyone will have different tastes in women and clubs, and these are just ranking based on my experiences in the 2nd week of September when I visited Germany. I was in Hessen, NRW, Augsburg, and Berlin. Didn't try Magnum or PHG or LR this time around. I could have skipped F39 to try PHG for sure.
Aca (5). Best overall value. Big and clean club. A lot of good looking girls between 8-9 range. No 10s, but two were a solid 9 IMHO. Grilled food was good.
GT (2). Clean & small club. Food is excellent. Lineup was okay to good and is similar to 6 month / 1 year ago. The club can be packed with more guys than girls and sometimes looks like a suasage factory. I think its the free alcohol, good food, and distance to the border that gets all the Dutch guys in. Nothing more to say, but still a top club in the NRW area.
Sharks (2). Clean & spacious sized club. Food is okay. Lineup was great on Sun and Sat. Daytime lineup I heard is bad.
Main (4). Clean & small club. Decent lineup. I have seen better lineup in Main and was a bit disappointed. Still managed 4 sessions but service on 2 of the sessions was just okay.
Artemis (4). Big & clean club. More clean than Oase. More pricey but it was good since it was my first time and there were a lot of choices. Long drive from Cola to Artemis though. Berlin is a cool city however. Very hip and young professionals type of city. Saw Nikki (German) ex-GT, she said she was let go from GT because of some politics with GT mgmt and Lisa of GT. Didn't bother with details. Too bad, I had intended to session with her again in GT and I always liked watching her ass as she made an entrance in GT main room from the changing rooms.
Cola (2). Clean and spacious club (pool is kinda the centerpiece, bit odd) , didn't try the food. Had Marie and a hot Chezh girl. Overall good club but a tiresome drive from Frankfurt. I may repeat however.
World (2). Big & clean club. Food good. I was disappointed in Sat lineup. This is my go to club on Sat usually. Instead, decided to head to Sharks late night and it was rocking.
Samya (0). Unclean club, small club with poor food. Lots of girls just sitting around. Some were good looking. No 9s or 10s. Went to the room with a Romanian who was 8. 5, but after 1 min in room she changed her story and said she only does covered BJ, so I just walked out and didn't pay. She said ok. I was going to complain but just decided to not waste my time and head to ACA. I have been to Samya before and have had a decent time. I still don't like the club as much because they charge similar entry prices and are not as good as other small clubs in comparison.
DV (0). Food okay. Clean club. Food ok. Quality of girls in terms of looks did not appeal to me. Looks are in 7s and 8s. 'Hyper' Bony was there requesting everyone to fuck her ass, definitely high. I don't think anyone did. Poor thing. I did no one, just left.
Fruede39 (1). Spacious club and food is okay. Parking is bad. Seems like a daytime club and had a decent no of punters. I had a bad experience at this club as I think it caters to mostly German speaking public. Getting in was not a problem, but I can see how a black guy could be rejected here. I am asian. Regardless, line up is typically 7s and maybe one or two 8s. The service is good from the girls however. They perform BBBJ in the main area on the couch before heading to room. If you speak German and you're a service oriented guy, then this is a good option for service perspective. I am pretty sure I would not repeat anyways. The drive to Bochum is not great & I think I got a ticket from a red light camera.
Overall, great trip. I enjoyed Germany as usual and its a much better value than Switz (Globe, Aprod, Bums, Life, etc).
Thanks for your extensive report JJForum61.
Will be interesting to see what is your taste: both in looks and service.
Since you rate Aca so high, what kind of girls did you go to the room with (German, Rumanian, Baltics, or other?). Aca has beautiful girls (like in Samya and GT) but most of the Rumanians one are offering very bad service (like in Samya and GT IMHO). In Freude39 you can find beautiful Romanian girls that offer good service (and even in Oase this ratio is still not as bad as in eg Samya, Aca or GT).
Do you consider DFK and BBBJ important? For instance German Marie is a real beauty, but does not kiss, and is not very intimate / passionate.
So all depends on personal taste, tell us your taste!
Very nice report JJForum61. For someone with so few reports and presumably little FKK experience you seem too click with most girls at ACA and receive good service.
Where as some experienced punters here are struggling to get decent service. Please share your insight?
The number is parenthesis is the (approx) number of rooms at the respective club. I remember faces very well, but bad with names (sorry). For me, as a rough idea on my taste, a 9. 5 is Marie German from Cola in terms of looks. Service is important to me as well and prefer at least a 7. 5 or 8 in service, but unless you try (or have a reliable source) the girl, it's difficult to gauge on service level. Needless to say, everyone will have different tastes in women and clubs, and these are just ranking based on my experiences in the 2nd week of September when I visited Germany. I was in Hessen, NRW, Augsburg, and Berlin. Didn't try Magnum or PHG or LR this time around. I could have skipped F39 to try PHG for sure.
Aca (5). Best overall value. Big and clean club. A lot of good looking girls between 8-9 range. No 10s, but two were a solid 9 IMHO. Grilled food was good.
GT (2). Clean & small club. Food is excellent. Lineup was okay to good and is similar to 6 month / 1 year ago. The club can be packed with more guys than girls and sometimes looks like a suasage factory. I think its the free alcohol, good food, and distance to the border that gets all the Dutch guys in. Nothing more to say, but still a top club in the NRW area.
Sharks (2). Clean & spacious sized club. Food is okay. Lineup was great on Sun and Sat. Daytime lineup I heard is bad.
Main (4). Clean & small club. Decent lineup. I have seen better lineup in Main and was a bit disappointed. Still managed 4 sessions but service on 2 of the sessions was just okay.
Artemis (4). Big & clean club. More clean than Oase. More pricey but it was good since it was my first time and there were a lot of choices. Long drive from Cola to Artemis though. Berlin is a cool city however. Very hip and young professionals type of city. Saw Nikki (German) ex-GT, she said she was let go from GT because of some politics with GT mgmt and Lisa of GT. Didn't bother with details. Too bad, I had intended to session with her again in GT and I always liked watching her ass as she made an entrance in GT main room from the changing rooms.
Cola (2). Clean and spacious club (pool is kinda the centerpiece, bit odd) , didn't try the food. Had Marie and a hot Chezh girl. Overall good club but a tiresome drive from Frankfurt. I may repeat however.
World (2). Big & clean club. Food good. I was disappointed in Sat lineup. This is my go to club on Sat usually. Instead, decided to head to Sharks late night and it was rocking.
Samya (0). Unclean club, small club with poor food. Lots of girls just sitting around. Some were good looking. No 9s or 10s. Went to the room with a Romanian who was 8. 5, but after 1 min in room she changed her story and said she only does covered BJ, so I just walked out and didn't pay. She said ok. I was going to complain but just decided to not waste my time and head to ACA. I have been to Samya before and have had a decent time. I still don't like the club as much because they charge similar entry prices and are not as good as other small clubs in comparison.
DV (0). Food okay. Clean club. Food ok. Quality of girls in terms of looks did not appeal to me. Looks are in 7s and 8s. 'Hyper' Bony was there requesting everyone to fuck her ass, definitely high. I don't think anyone did. Poor thing. I did no one, just left.
Fruede39 (1). Spacious club and food is okay. Parking is bad. Seems like a daytime club and had a decent no of punters. I had a bad experience at this club as I think it caters to mostly German speaking public. Getting in was not a problem, but I can see how a black guy could be rejected here. I am asian. Regardless, line up is typically 7s and maybe one or two 8s. The service is good from the girls however. They perform BBBJ in the main area on the couch before heading to room. If you speak German and you're a service oriented guy, then this is a good option for service perspective. I am pretty sure I would not repeat anyways. The drive to Bochum is not great & I think I got a ticket from a red light camera.
Overall, great trip. I enjoyed Germany as usual and its a much better value than Switz (Globe, Aprod, Bums, Life, etc).
Thanks for your extensive report JJForum61.
Will be interesting to see what is your taste: both in looks and service.
Since you rate Aca so high, what kind of girls did you go to the room with (German, Rumanian, Baltics, or other?). Aca has beautiful girls (like in Samya and GT) but most of the Rumanians one are offering very bad service (like in Samya and GT IMHO). In Freude39 you can find beautiful Romanian girls that offer good service (and even in Oase this ratio is still not as bad as in eg Samya, Aca or GT).
Do you consider DFK and BBBJ important? For instance German Marie is a real beauty, but does not kiss, and is not very intimate / passionate.
So all depends on personal taste, tell us your taste!
Cola (2). Clean and spacious club (pool is kinda the centerpiece, bit odd) , didn't try the food. Had Marie and a hot Chezh girl. Overall good club but a tiresome drive from Frankfurt. I may repeat however.What club is that? I cannot understand that abbreviation. Colosseum?
Member #4654
09-18-13, 02:48
Thanks for your extensive report JJForum61.
Will be interesting to see what is your taste: both in looks and service.
Since you rate Aca so high, what kind of girls did you go to the room with (German, Rumanian, Baltics, or other?). Aca has beautiful girls (like in Samya and GT) but most of the Rumanians one are offering very bad service (like in Samya and GT IMHO). In Freude39 you can find beautiful Romanian girls that offer good service (and even in Oase this ratio is still not as bad as in eg Samya, Aca or GT).
Do you consider DFK and BBBJ important? For instance German Marie is a real beauty, but does not kiss, and is not very intimate / passionate.
So all depends on personal taste, tell us your taste!I find it difficult to judge based on country of origin as to who gives bad service. Marie is a 7-7. 5 in service and 9-9. 5 in looks. Agreed, everyone has a different taste and I respect that. I prefer kissing and BBBJ at least. I also enjoy DATY sometimes. F39 is probably a good club for a German speaking person. Many girls I approached at F39 said they don't speak english and I sensed felt nervous to talk to me. They weren't trying to be rude, they just didn't want me to have a bad experience. Also, the place is not frequented by too many non-whites, I think (it appeared that way).
Member #4654
09-18-13, 02:52
Very nice report JJForum61. For someone with so few reports and presumably little FKK experience you seem too click with most girls at ACA and receive good service.
Where as some experienced punters here are struggling to get decent service. Please share your insight?Thanks, I am bad with names so I don't bother with reports usually. But decided this time to write something. No formula here for getting good service. I too have had bad service I. E, Samya and at GT and at Globe.
Member #4654
09-18-13, 03:24
Very nice report JJForum61. For someone with so few reports and presumably little FKK experience you seem too click with most girls at ACA and receive good service.
Where as some experienced punters here are struggling to get decent service. Please share your insight?Actually, I am curious about a certain aspect of this as well. For some punters I talked to, good service must have kissing and fingers in pussy, BBBJ and a lot of extras w / o paying extra money for them. One young guy I was talking too said "she is really good because I fucked her twice last time I was here and she was happy for just one room price". What defines a good service?
Summary of my tour in order of positive impression. *I converted Swiss Francs to Euros. *I noted how much total was spent including incremental transportation (cab rides, or subway rides) , (I was using a pass so train rides and S-Bahn was not incremental) , and overpayments trying to get better service. *I even included the cost of a Red Bull if I had one. *On cities, I spelled my best from memory. *
Globe.
Zurich.
First visit 187.
Second visit 187.
Did not ask for any extras. *The GFE was so good, I didn't want any. *Service here seemed remarkable. *Girls did not want to leave the room short of a half hour least there be some question of satisfaction. *Number one on my list. *Management really wants men to be happy.
Oase.
Freidrichsdorf.
First visit 340.
Second visit 192.
Third visit 242.
Did two girls on first visit and promised them both 100 euros whose ever mouth I came it. *I want to make out with one girl while the other girl finished me off. *Then did a second girl and couldn't finish. *Second visit CIM finish. *Third visit could not finish with first girl (had a piercing that I hadn't noticed which turned me off. *The number of beautiful girls was absolutely amazing. *And they have the only edible food in FKK land now that they "charge." this is Disneyland for men.
Golden Time*
Bruggen.
First visit 197.
Second visit 247.
Third visit 249.
Service was no where close to the above, but girls overall where very pretty. *Way, way, way to many men on every visit. *Service that I received was not the best. *Seemed like a club for regulars.
Artemis.
Berlin.
First visit 240.
Second visit 190.
I cannot remember these sessions to be honest, but I always like Artemis.
Palace.
Frankfurt.
Only visit 229.
I know this club gets bad reviews sometimes. *But I always enjoy it, and I don't mind paying for the service I want. *CIM finish.
Golden Time Vienna.
Vienna.
First visit 330.
Second visit 210.
I should have terminated first session when she started with a CBJ. *But instead I kept adding extras (anal and CIM) hoping to improve things. *It didn't. *You also have made mistakes in your life. *Second visit was better, but not memorable. *If I am in Vienna, I will go, but it isn't a destination.
World.
Giessen.
Only visit 201.
Mediocre girls and service. *A lot of trouble and I am never delighted.
Mainhatten*
Frankfurt.
Only visit 101.
Good value. *I get there before 13:00 and got their early bird entry. *Service was medium, but I was just trying for a quickie before I went home. *My service wasn't very good either. *I was actually starting to get bored fucking you beautiful girls.
Samya.
Cologne.
Only visit 105.
Maybe it is a club for younger men. *Maybe it is a club for regulars. *Girls below overall average. *Would not return.
Bernds.
Cologne (just outside via subway and cab)
Only visit 151.
I don't get it
What club is that? I cannot understand that abbreviation. Colosseum?I always thought a cola was a kind of non alcoholic drink whixh one asks for at the bar in the club.
In this case Cola refers to Colosseum in Augsburg.
Hessen Bub
09-18-13, 08:06
What club is that? I cannot understand that abbreviation. Colosseum?ColA = Colosseum Augsburg.
HB
As an interesting statistic, I read that one in six Romanians work outside of Romania, mainly heading to Western European countries to find work. And that 80,000 Romanians work in the sex industry. That is like a whole generation that make the living from the pay for fucking. So you may think at some stage there is a high chance that if your mother was a Romanian in this period she used to work in this sex industry job.Even if 80, 000 were correct (and it could be rubbish) , that would not be such a massive portion of the total Romanian population. 80 thousand in say 22 million is less than 0. 5% and less than 1% of the females. Okay increase the percentage for the right age bracket. Its still not a very high percentage. Don't get carried away with your imagination now, and speculate about someone's "mother". Ridiculous.
A significant number of FKK girls are single mothers already. So what? The children have to be supported and put through a good education etc. and get the best opportunities.
I will bet some Asian countries have a much higher number of sex workers, Philippines, Thailand, even India (as an example).
Its worth pointing out that the poorer the standard of living in a country, and the lower the pay from standard type jobs, the higher the likelihood that girls will see sex as a good way to make money. Some even claim they like sex and it is not so difficult for them to do, given the rewards. Added to that, FKK girls that make good money don't have to take the customers they don't like, or are difficult in any way.
Would I sell my body for ten times the money I make now? A little bit hypothetical, as unlikely women would want to pay to fuck me (or be fucked) , however if they did, then sure. I would do it for relative riches in a short time. Why not.
Would I sell my body for ten times the money I make now? A little bit hypothetical, as unlikely women would want to pay to fuck me (or be fucked) , however if they did, then sure. I would do it for relative riches in a short time. Why not.Even if most of your customers were in the age range 50 to 70 years of age and had a bellies (and tits) down to their knees? LOL!
Bad service at Globe = Total Refund.
There's a a guy at reception who's a dead ringer for Brendan Fraser http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Fraser
Who always makes sure you are 100% happy.
Thanks, I am bad with names so I don't bother with reports usually. But decided this time to write something. No formula here for getting good service. I too have had bad service I. E, Samya and at GT and at Globe.
I am trying to understand what is good and bad service.
Here's what I think they are looking for €50 per 30 mins:
1) Unlimited position.
2) Unlimited cum.
3) DFK.
4) BBBJ.
5) GFE.
6) Penetration for 30 mins.
7) BJ for 30 mins.
8) Many "other" services
9) The list is endless.
I just feel for the poor girls.
Actually, I am curious about a certain aspect of this as well. For some punters I talked to, good service must have kissing and fingers in pussy, BBBJ and a lot of extras w / o paying extra money for them. One young guy I was talking too said "she is really good because I fucked her twice last time I was here and she was happy for just one room price". What defines a good service?
Nille Copenhagen
09-18-13, 23:28
I am trying to understand what is good and bad service.
Here's what I think they are looking for €50 per 30 mins:
1) Unlimited position.
2) Unlimited cum.
3) DFK.
4) BBBJ.
5) GFE.
6) Penetration for 30 mins.
7) BJ for 30 mins.
8) Many "other" services
9) The list is endless.
I just feel for the poor girls.Well I believe we can't get an unique answer, everybody has different expectations, fantasies and our way of enjoying sex.
FI. If you expect PSE and got GFE the it's a disappointment and visa versa, but it doesn't mean that the service is poor.
For me if the chemistry is right and great, the sex part will be better and might reach a higher level. Then I'm happy I had several sessions on this trip that reach a higher level on the sexual and personal level.
But I agree Simex that for 50€ some men are trying to squeeze the lemon (I mean girl) to the last drop, that is pathetic and cheap. (I'm referring to the sample list above)
For 50€ one should be happy and grateful enough to be able to have sex with a beautiful young girl.
Agree. It's difficult to justify what's good and bad.
Maybe you get guys expecting bb sex for 50.
I am afraid it's the real arsehol demanding punters that pisses the girls off for the regular customers.
There was 5 guys who only had €20each and all 5 wanted to take this poor girl into the room for 90 minutes. You work out the maths and what the service level expected of her.
Well I believe we can't get an unique answer, everybody has different expectations, fantasies and our way of enjoying sex.
FI. If you expect PSE and got GFE the it's a disappointment and visa versa, but it doesn't mean that the service is poor.
For me if the chemistry is right and great, the sex part will be better and might reach a higher level. Then I'm happy I had several sessions on this trip that reach a higher level on the sexual and personal level.
But I agree Simex that for 50€ some men are trying to squeeze the lemon (I mean girl) to the last drop, that is pathetic and cheap. (I'm referring to the sample list above)
For 50€ one should be happy and grateful enough to be able to have sex with a beautiful young girl.
Hessen Bub
09-19-13, 09:47
2) Unlimited cum.Not in German FKK. It's one shot in 30min.
HB
Not necessarily true all the time. I seen this offered.
Girls are smart, they're selective with whom they offer unlimited cum.
Obviously a young relatively active guy will not be offered this in a 30 min session.
Not in German FKK. It's one shot in 30min.
HB
I'll be treating myself to some time off in a couple of weeks and have set up a trip to Frankfurt.
I'd like to sample most of what the city has to offer and the main portion of that will obviously be the FKKs.
I've been reading everything here for weeks now, but I'd just like to ask a few questions:
1) Assuming the big 3 (Oase, Palace, Mainhattan) and given that I have Wed / Thu / Fri / Sat available from midday onward, what day / time combinations would you suggest for each one? I'd rather avoid lingerie days and the like. Should I go for early afternoon to evening, or evening to next morning? I won't have a car so probably wouldn't do anything further out from these if it's just another FKK.
2) On a related note, how much would a cab fare cost from Oase back to Frankfurt should I miss the last train and choose not to stick around until morning?
3) Knowing myself I'll probably burn through 4 sessions in 2 hours unless I have something else to do. Is it common for guys to bring a book for the downtime or something along those lines?
Thanks in advance and I promise to report back!
Kempis.
1. These things are so personal I think you just have to experiment as to what suits you. Maximum number of workers tends to be from 16. 00 to 21. 00 when the shifts overlap. But if you like relaxed atmosphere then early morning (either end of the opening hours) can be good.
2. http://www.numbeo.com/taxi-fare/city_result.jsp?country=Germany&city=Frankfurt Means you can work out any journey cost you like.
3. Books are no problem. I haven't tried using an electronic book as handys / cameras are not allowed in hesse clubs. I find that watching the naked girls gives me plenty to do. It is also worth watching which girls seem to give good service and which don't.
Yes, please, report back. All reports with useful info about girls are really useful
Not in German FKK. It's one shot in 30min.Yes. And a few girls will want to stop the session the moment you cum! I have sometimes been offered a second round in the half hour but probably only because the girls know that at my advanced age I'm not going to manage it (or alternatively it could be my winning ways.) :)
Hessen Bub
09-20-13, 11:32
Not necessarily true all the time. I seen this offered.There's always exceptions to the rules. Just don't expect it as a newbie or first time customer.
HB
Nille Copenhagen
09-20-13, 15:38
There's always exceptions to the rules. Just don't expect it as a newbie or first time customer.
HBI'm always saying I'm a first time customer then I get a guided tour LOL.
I'll be treating myself to some time off in a couple of weeks and have set up a trip to Frankfurt.
I'd like to sample most of what the city has to offer and the main portion of that will obviously be the FKKs.
I've been reading everything here for weeks now, but I'd just like to ask a few questions:
1) Assuming the big 3 (Oase, Palace, Mainhattan) and given that I have Wed / Thu / Fri / Sat available from midday onward, what day / time combinations would you suggest for each one? I'd rather avoid lingerie days and the like. Should I go for early afternoon to evening, or evening to next morning? I won't have a car so probably wouldn't do anything further out from these if it's just another FKK.
2) On a related note, how much would a cab fare cost from Oase back to Frankfurt should I miss the last train and choose not to stick around until morning?
3) Knowing myself I'll probably burn through 4 sessions in 2 hours unless I have something else to do. Is it common for guys to bring a book for the downtime or something along those lines?
Thanks in advance and I promise to report back!1) the Big 3 are Oase, World and Sharks nowadays. Avoid Palace (tourist trap). In Oase, Thursday is lingerie day. Friday is best in Oase regarding woman / man ratio, and take Sharks or World as last (for relax).
3) take a sauna, whirlpool, etc and relax. And reading is very common in most clubs, as is eating, chatting, etc
Enjoy!
I'll be treating myself to some time off in a couple of weeks and have set up a trip to Frankfurt.
I'd like to sample most of what the city has to offer and the main portion of that will obviously be the FKKs.
I've been reading everything here for weeks now, but I'd just like to ask a few questions:
1) Assuming the big 3 (Oase, Palace, Mainhattan) and given that I have Wed / Thu / Fri / Sat available from midday onward, what day / time combinations would you suggest for each one? I'd rather avoid lingerie days and the like. Should I go for early afternoon to evening, or evening to next morning? I won't have a car so probably wouldn't do anything further out from these if it's just another FKK.
2) On a related note, how much would a cab fare cost from Oase back to Frankfurt should I miss the last train and choose not to stick around until morning?
3) Knowing myself I'll probably burn through 4 sessions in 2 hours unless I have something else to do. Is it common for guys to bring a book for the downtime or something along those lines?
Thanks in advance and I promise to report back!Big three clubs have always been (and probably still are) Palace, Oase & World. Sharks and Mainhattan have also come on a lot recently. Service levels at Oase seem to be declining of late. That said if you are an experienced monger (and / or if you can handle twenty something year old hookers) you should have no real difficulties in Palace or Oase for that matter.
I normally drive and stay close to Oase when visiting but I think the cab fare back to Frankfurt is something like €70 or €80 (not sure). If I were planning this trip I would definitely rent a car and probably visit the following clubs:
Wednesday: FKK Mainhattan or FKK Palace.
Thursday: FKK World (you might like to substitute FKK Sharks here)
Friday: FKK Oase
Saturday: FKK World (you should definitely visit FKK World on Friday or Saturday)
I normally stay a considerable time in the clubs when visiting. Reading material is handy particulalry if you are mongering alone. I try to avoid solitary mongering if possible.
Hope this helps a bit. PM me if you have any queries.
This started roughly at the same time when the Germany Venues Categories thread and the Germany AO Clubs thread (which is still lacking Main Forum Threads) got started. I too preferred the Main Forum Threads as they were before (Gen In, Trav Ann, ROD etc) and all the club-threads seperated as User Threads. It was easier to handle.The new explosion of threads is just a dead loss, in my opinion.
The old system was far easier to navigate.
Now it reads like it's been set up for 'slow learners' in that every thread and category has to be dissected, divided and sub-divided, again and again.
Any chance of getting back to just 3 German threads, please?
Sometimes less really is more!
TravelGuy99
09-23-13, 01:18
Hello gents,
I am a North American-born citizen of Turkish descent, I would like to know if I would have any trouble getting into an FKK, or possibly face higher rates based on my 'looks'?
I read the forum and understand quite clearly that well-dressed, smell good and tip well helps my chances, but would like to know if anyone hashad any observations about the patronage of these clubs, as relates to my profile (LOL)
Thanks!
Banana Boi
09-23-13, 01:40
Anyone been to Goldentime in Vienna recently? May visit in November and was wondering how it compares talent wise to top FRA or NRW clubs.
Anyone been to Goldentime in Vienna recently? May visit in November and was wondering how it compares talent wise to top FRA or NRW clubs.I was there about a year ago. Entrance is 60€.1/2 hr = 60€ as well.
Lineup is OK. Maybe not as great as in Big 5, but still very decent. I would compare with Paradise (Stuttgart). Girls are not as young as in Aca for example, but not old either. IMHO service level is better than in Hesse clubs. Almost all girls I was talking speak English well.
Background variety is better than in German FKK. Romanians still dominating but percentage of Hungarian, Czech, Slovakian, Ukrainian, Baltian girls higher then in most of German clubs.
Rooms are semi-privat: no doors but curtains. Food is absolutely eatable. Facility is OK. There is a small Jacuzzi but I newer used it because it always empty. Taxi from Vienna airport 40-50€.
I newer target GT Vienna but sometimes Vienna is my connection point. So instead to get bored in the hotel room I'd rather to go to GT. I've newer been in Fun Palast but according other opinions lineup in GT usually stronger.
Banana Boi
09-23-13, 03:59
I was there about a year ago. Entrance is 60€.1/2 hr = 60€ as well.
Lineup is not as great as in Big 5, but there are enough doable girls. Girls are not so young but service is OK. Bacground variety is better than in German FKK. Romanians still dominating but I sessioned there with Hungarian, Czech, Slovakian, Ukrainian, Baltian girls as well.
Rooms are semi-privat: no doors but curtains.Thanks Jymondor. Just want to know what kind of talent I can expect. I like the variety in girls but not keen on no option for a private room.
The site says 90 euro entry so I will do research in the Austria forum regarding that. http://www.goldentime.at/sauna-club
The site says 90 euro entry90? Maybe it has been changed, maybe I forgot what it was exactly. But be sure you will find there good variety of backgrounds.
Nille Copenhagen
09-23-13, 09:02
Hello gents,
I am a North American-born citizen of Turkish descent, I would like to know if I would have any trouble getting into an FKK, or possibly face higher rates based on my 'looks'?
I read the forum and understand quite clearly that well-dressed, smell good and tip well helps my chances, but would like to know if anyone hashad any observations about the patronage of these clubs, as relates to my profile (LOL)
Thanks!Don't go to GT (NRW) the other club you'll be fine.
My FKK advices:
Dress casual, you'll be naked anyway.
Don't tips too much (10€ should be ok) as this will ruin for other mongers, if the girls are expecting tips, I rather spend more time or go with her again.
Behave and be nice, that's the key to good experiences.
Trans Atlantic
09-24-13, 03:07
A last minute business trip came up so I'm off to NRW tomorrow. Will have some leisure time on Friday / Saturday in NRW (Aca / GT / DV). On Sunday night, I'll be taking a redeye to the Far East via Munich.
Any recommendation on which club to hit on a Sunday? The options are:
Another club in NRW? (Flight departs DUS at 1900)
Frankfurt (either Oase or Mainhattan) (Will have to catch a morning flight from DUS to FRA and then FRA to MUC at 2000. Will probably have about 5-6 hours physically in a club)
Munich (Hawaii or Colosseum)
Trans Atlantic
09-24-13, 04:10
A last minute business trip came up so I'm off to NRW tomorrow. Will have some leisure time on Friday / Saturday in NRW (Aca / GT / DV). On Sunday night, I'll be taking a redeye to the Far East via Munich.
Any recommendation on which club to hit on a Sunday? The options are:
Another club in NRW? (Flight departs DUS at 1900)
Frankfurt (either Oase or Mainhattan) (Will have to catch a morning flight from DUS to FRA and then FRA to MUC at 2000. Will probably have about 5-6 hours physically in a club)
Munich (Hawaii or Colosseum) Leaning towards Frankfurt since I rarely get down there. Oase or Mainhattan on a Sunday for a better visual lineup?
Banana Boi
09-24-13, 04:12
Leaning towards Frankfurt since I rarely get down there. Oase or Mainhattan on a Sunday for a better visual lineup?Seems like guys are leaning more towards Sharks as a Sunday option.
Trans Atlantic
09-24-13, 04:22
Seems like guys are leaning more towards Sharks as a Sunday option.Thanks. Does Sharks post the entry fee? I can't seem to find it. I found the various 25EUR discounts as well as the 2 hours 40EUR option. But what is the entry fee to begin with?
Normally 65, but 40 on sundays before 2pm. Hence the popularity.
Banana Boi
09-24-13, 05:57
Oh is Sharks a sausage fest on Sundays then? Am I better off going on a Wednesday to get a better girl to guy ratio? I'd rather pay 25 euro more and not have to race for the girl I want.
Oh is Sharks a sausage fest on Sundays then? Am I better off going on a Wednesday to get a better girl to guy ratio? I'd rather pay 25 euro more and not have to race for the girl I want.Probably, but more girls show up as well. I think that Sunday was the busiest I've seen the club, but many guys just came for the sun (it seemed). So while it was quite bsy, every girl was fairly easy to get to. If you can enjoy yourself on any day in GT, Sunday in Sharks will be fine as well (I'd think). Also less hunting by irritating girls like Flori.
Also less hunting by irritating girls like Flori.Not a good session for me, doesn't take criticism too well either.
Oh is Sharks a sausage fest on Sundays then? Am I better off going on a Wednesday to get a better girl to guy ratio? I'd rather pay 25 euro more and not have to race for the girl I want.It wasn't bad at all when I visited, I'd say roughly 5 guys to 4 women most of the day. Weather probably kept most of them away and since your trip is later this year the garden won't be a draw.
I have been to Palace and world in Frankfurt a few times and enjoyed both much. I think I have a fantasy about a similar club except with the girls not being naked, but with sexy mini dress, etc. More like a pick up bar but with the setup of a sauna club, if it makes any sense. I find it more stimulating than fully naked girls around. I appreciate any info if such a place exists in Germany. Maybe something like Babylon in Vienna (have not been there but have read the reviews).
Nille Copenhagen
09-27-13, 21:56
I have been to palace and world in Frankfurt a few times and enjoyed both much. I think I have a fantasy about a similar club except with the girls not being naked, but with sexy mini dress, etc. More like a pick up bar but with the setup of a sauna club, if it makes any sense. I find it more stimulating than fully naked girls around. I appreciate any info if such a place exists in Germany. Maybe something like Babylon in Vienna (have not been there but have read the reviews).Try Dolce Vita (NRW) , Livingroom, PHG and similar clubs.
Super Flanker
10-22-13, 15:05
Have never had any issue at immigration at FRA before but I am a little worried about my next travel plan to Germany.
I will take a business trip to non-Germany EU country and will stay there for one and half weeks.
I am thinking of taking 2 short visit to FRA during my business trip.
Each stay at FRA will be fairly short. 2.3 days, something like "in Sat and out Sun" and "in Thurs and out Sat".
I am afraid to be asked why you take 2 short trips in such a short period at immigration.
Has anyone had any issue at immigration for a multiple short trips?
How should I answer if asked?
It's because I like German beers?
Hessen Bub
10-22-13, 15:15
You're what? US citizen? So why should anybody care what you are doing in Germany? Sightseeing. Period. It's not like US immigration asking me stupid questions about why are you here, where did you study, do you like working for xxx. Why do they always assume I want to stay illegaly? I'm happy when I can return to Germany. Maybe there's too many immigrants at immigration.
HB
Golda Meir
10-22-13, 15:15
I never had a problem entering Europe. Just say you want to do some sightseeing.
GM
Have never had any issue at immigration at FRA before but I am a little worried about my next travel plan to Germany.
I will take a business trip to non-Germany EU country and will stay there for one and half weeks.
I am thinking of taking 2 short visit to FRA during my business trip.
Each stay at FRA will be fairly short. 2.3 days, something like "in Sat and out Sun" and "in Thurs and out Sat".
I am afraid to be asked why you take 2 short trips in such a short period at immigration.
Has anyone had any issue at immigration for a multiple short trips?
How should I answer if asked?
It's because I like German beers?
You're what? US citizen? So why should anybody care what you are doing in Germany? Sightseeing. Period. It's not like US immigration asking me stupid questions about why are you here, where did you study, do you like working for xxx. Why do they always assume I want to stay illegaly? I'm happy when I can return to Germany. Maybe there's too many immigrants at immigration.
HBLast trip officer at German pass control booth looked into my passport and said: You've been in Germany six times this year. Is that business or so? I said yes. No more questions, but I am still puzzled why he count how many time I visited Germany.
Trans Atlantic
10-22-13, 16:17
Been in Schengen for short trips (3 days) 6 times this year. Last trip involving Germany 3 days / outside Schengen 3 days / Germany 3 days. Never been asked why so frequently. The most I've been asked was purpose of trip at Zurich (2 times) to which I responded leisure. No further question.
Germans just looked at my passport but never ask. French was too busy chatting with another agent to even look; just stamped and I was in Schengen.
The Swiss and German border control stamp entry / exit neatly and aligned. The French does it haphazardly.
If asked, just them you are visiting your girlfriend. She works up at Friedrichsdorf. :)
Banana Boi
10-22-13, 19:42
If asked, just them you are visiting your girlfriend. She works up at Friedrichsdorf. :)May be risky cause chances are she's the passport control guy's girlfriend too and he may not let you in. LOL
PussyLiccker
10-23-13, 14:15
When I came back from Germany, US customs asked why I was there, I sounded suspicious. I hate going through US customs (even German when they ask). I wonder what would happen if I say I'm here to check out the Saunaclubs and FKKs? LOL.
Golda Meir
10-23-13, 15:54
Do any of the Frankfurt-area clubs (FKKs, Partytreffs maybe) typically has public action going on? Kino, gloryholes, party area, something like that? Or do I have to find a private party for that?
GM
Trans Atlantic
10-23-13, 17:58
When I came back from Germany, US customs asked why I was there, I sounded suspicious. I hate going through US customs (even German when they ask). I wonder what would happen if I say I'm here to check out the Saunaclubs and FKKs? LOL.Two words for you. Global Entry.
Bypasses both the immigration and custom lines and no stupid questions.
When I came back from Germany, US customs asked why I was there, I sounded suspicious. I hate going through US customs (even German when they ask). I wonder what would happen if I say I'm here to check out the Saunaclubs and FKKs? LOL.While I was in San Diego for a convention, I went at least 3-4 times in a week to Tijuana.
Returning to the US, I was always asked the question about what I was doing there. Always answered, visiting the "clubs". Got a dark look, but got my passport back each time.
Have never had any issue at immigration at FRA before but I am a little worried about my next travel plan to Germany.
I will take a business trip to non-Germany EU country and will stay there for one and half weeks.
I am thinking of taking 2 short visit to FRA during my business trip.
Each stay at FRA will be fairly short. 2.3 days, something like "in Sat and out Sun" and "in Thurs and out Sat".
I am afraid to be asked why you take 2 short trips in such a short period at immigration.
Has anyone had any issue at immigration for a multiple short trips?
How should I answer if asked?
It's because I like German beers?You should be fine as you are travelling within EU and I expect Schengen area so may not even be border control.
The free movement of persons is a fundamental right guaranteed to European Union (EU) citizens by the Treaties. It is realised through the area of freedom, security and justice without internal borders. Lifting internal borders requires strengthened management of the Union's external borders as well as regulated entry and residence of non-EU nationals, including through a common asylum and immigration policy.
The concept of free movement of persons came about with the signing of the Schengen Agreement in 1985 and the subsequent Schengen Convention in 1990, which initiated the abolition of border controls between participating countries. Being part of the EU legal and institutional framework, Schengen cooperation has gradually been extended to include most EU Member States as well as some non-EU countries.
http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/justice_freedom_security/free_movement_of_persons_asylum_immigration/
Last trip officer at German pass control booth looked into my passport and said: You've been in Germany six times this year. Is that business or so? I said yes. No more questions, but I am still puzzled why he count how many time I visited Germany.The border officer was just being precise and accurate. This is normal.
When I came back from Germany, US customs asked why I was there, I sounded suspicious. I hate going through US customs (even German when they ask). I wonder what would happen if I say I'm here to check out the Saunaclubs and FKKs? LOL.I guess you should say whatever is sufficient to save face but it is now well known internationally that Germany (just like Mexico and Thailand) is a cheap mongering destination for North Americans and Europeans.
OfficeMatt
10-25-13, 01:58
While I was in San Diego for a convention, I went at least 3-4 times in a week to Tijuana.
Returning to the US, I was always asked the question about what I was doing there. Always answered, visiting the "clubs". Got a dark look, but got my passport back each time.'Visiting the clubs. ' Well that kind of helps.
Since when is it anyone's business? Canadian CBSA just asks where you went (specifically cities) and for what reason. I always say where and 'for pleasure' with a grin.
I have only ever been asked any questions once when entering Europe and that was at Schiphol. I ended up with a quick flirt and made the customs babe blush. Not bad.
I guess you should say whatever is sufficient to save face but it is now well known internationally that Germany (just like Mexico and Thailand) is a cheap mongering destination for North Americans and Europeans.If you are an American returning to the USA: Now, you can simply tell the immigration officer that you were in Germany to install some new high tech spy ware into Merkel's mobile telephone!
UltraHappy
10-28-13, 01:07
When I came back from Germany, US customs asked why I was there, I sounded suspicious. I hate going through US customs (even German when they ask). I wonder what would happen if I say I'm here to check out the Saunaclubs and FKKs? LOL.The only thing the customs officer needs to know is whether you were there on vacation / tourist or business. The reason they ask is because the visas are different. If you are American, as long as you say,"tourist / recreation / vacation," that should be fine. Sometimes a hardass might ask more questions, but you don't have to provide any more details.
As a prior poster said, the Global Entry is really worth it. $100 fee, good for 5 years. Plus, being a Global Entry member automatically qualifies you for TSA pre-check (still being rolled out to all the major airports but should be at most of the domestic international airports by the end of this year).
To become a Global Entry member, you just fill out an online form. They send you an approval letter in 3-4 weeks. You schedule an interview at one of the Global Entry airports within 90 days of receiving your approval letter. You can even conveniently schedule your Global Entry interview on a return trip to one of these Global Entry airports.
As a Global Entry member, you skip the immigration queues by using the kiosks (no waiting). Then, after you retrieve your luggage, you usually have a separate skip-ahead line when making your way through Customs.
The kiosks provide the additional advantage of not being set up to racially profile as the human immigration officers tend to do. So if you happen to be picked by the human officers for "secondary screening" at an unusually high rate, you may be better off with the kiosks since their random selection rate for secondary screening is quite low compared to the human customs officers.
Doesn't help any when entering another country but definitely worth it when returning to the USA
Hessen Bub
10-28-13, 11:26
As a prior poster said, the Global Entry is really worth it. $100 fee, good for 5 years. Plus, being a Global Entry member automatically qualifies you for TSA pre-check (still being rolled out to all the major airports but should be at most of the domestic international airports by the end of this year).That's for US Citizens only?
HB
Trans Atlantic
10-28-13, 19:11
That's for US Citizens only?
HBIt's open for citizens of certain countries.
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/news_releases/national/08092013_3.xml
AdventureSeeke
10-30-13, 18:42
Try Dolce Vita (NRW) , Livingroom, PHG and similar clubs.Hi Nille,
Are these in Frankfurt? Could not find any info on them. Closest I found was Living XXL in FRA and that seems to be a bar / restaurant. Can you clarify please?
StarletVoyager
10-31-13, 03:14
God help me I thought I was an obsessive question searcher. Adventure these are clubs in north rhein west phalia area of Germany they are have their own sections here. Look and ye shall find. Typically the girls here are not fully nude like Frankfurt and artemis.
Nille Copenhagen
10-31-13, 08:48
Hi Nille,
Are these in Frankfurt? Could not find any info on them. Closest I found was Living XXL in FRA and that seems to be a bar / restaurant. Can you clarify please?Hi AdventureSeeke,
They are near Dusseldorf area (the state NRW) , there are many clubs here. Enjoy, they are smaller clubs than Hessens, but I find nice girls and great services there.
PussyLiccker
10-31-13, 13:55
Yes, as they are called SaunaClubs in the NRW, not FKK like FRA clubs where girls are typically fully nude. That does not mean all the girls are covering their breasts or what not. I would say alot of them will take their tops off atleast. At ACA, pretty much most of the girls have their tops off. As long as girls are wearing outfits that I can see their body shape, I could care less if they are nude. The only problem would be their tits size or to know if they sag, but I personally am not a tits man (assman). I personally like girls dressed in swim outfits, or underwears. I like the victoria's secret outfits girls wears at the NRW (the skimpy outfits are different than FRA or ART as they look less porno style or less pro) , it adds to the sexiness.
For a first timer at the NRW, GoldenTime and Acapulco are two clubs to start out with, and there are many more to venture out from there.
Their outfits usually look like the pictures below.
Typically the girls here are not fully nude like Frankfurt and Artemis.There are quite reasobale number of clubs in NRW where girls are fully nude. For instance Bernds, and all the AO clubs, like Arabella, Villa Venus etc. Surely more that I don't know about.
Hey guys,
I am a Swedish student from Malmö (next to Copenhagen) , planning to take my first sex-escort-whatever trip and I am looking for some advice or someone to point me in the right direction, what FKK would you recommend, I am mainly looking for a sex only trip so if possible a hotel very close and a FKK club that offer a enjoyable stay.
AdventureSeeke
11-01-13, 08:55
Hi AdventureSeeke,
They are near Dusseldorf area (the state NRW) , there are many clubs here. Enjoy, they are smaller clubs than Hessens, but I find nice girls and great services there.My bad. Was searching for these in Frankfurt. Thanks a bunch for the clarification.
It looks like Dusseldorf is about 2 hours from FRA. Will check that out over the weekend. I can only go to one there (I know.) and thinking Acapulco.
1. Open on the weekends.
2. 40 Euros entrance
3. Talent seems numerous and more my type (petite).
Would you agree?
There are a bunch of 'fully nude' clubs:
-as said all the RTC clubs: Arabella, Villa Venus, Grimberg, Alina, Verena (used to be Bel Ami)
-Babylon.
-Freude.
-Luder Lounge (except fridays)
-Neby (all topless, but usually with string)
-Club Angelique on Thursdays.
-Dolce vita only during the day and about half of the week (check website)
-Haus Panthera (Thursday-Saturday)
-Bernds
Solo Traveler
11-01-13, 21:24
Hey guys,
I am a Swedish student from Malmö (next to Copenhagen) , planning to take my first sex-escort-whatever trip and I am looking for some advice or someone to point me in the right direction, what FKK would you recommend, I am mainly looking for a sex only trip so if possible a hotel very close and a FKK club that offer a enjoyable stay.Do you mean that you are now in Sweden, and want to have a sex trip in Germany?
Let's assume that you have enough budget
1. Take an airplane to Frankfurt am Main, Germany.
2. Choose a hotel near Frankfurt Main Station (A 3-star business hotel, which includes buffet breakfast and free Wi-Fi will cost you only 50EUR / per night)
From Frankfurt Main Station, you can easily use the public transportation and visit the "Hessen Big Five FKK Clubs" (The reason 1 why I tell you to stay at a hotel near Frankfurt Main Station!)
"Hessen Big Five FKK Clubs" are Oase, World, Palace, Sharks, and Mainhattan.
Go check those thread in this forum, and you will know how to get there by public transportation and how things work in FKK clubs.
4. You can also visit the red light district near Frankfurt Main Station. (The reason 2 why I tell you to stay at a hotel near Frankfurt Main Station!).
Banana Boi
11-02-13, 14:10
Other than DV, Magnum, and LR, are there other clubs within 15 km of downtown Dusseldorf? Just looking for alternatives to the big clubs. I found FKK Blue Note which I might try but the 55 euro day time entry for a small club is a bit of a deterrent.
Trans Atlantic
11-02-13, 15:13
Other than DV, Magnum, and LR, are there other clubs within 15 km of downtown Dusseldorf? Just looking for alternatives to the big clubs. I found FKK Blue Note which I might try but the 55 euro day time entry for a small club is a bit of a deterrent.Have you checked this out? Seems to be updated. Some entries were made recently.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=210980961214256580520.00045d515d0f87adf527e&msa=0
Other than DV, Magnum, and LR, are there other clubs within 15 km of downtown Dusseldorf? Just looking for alternatives to the big clubs. I found FKK Blue Note which I might try but the 55 euro day time entry for a small club is a bit of a deterrent.Haus Panthera in ratingen. Great food and awesome girls. A lot of public action if you're up for it. Not the looks you'll find in Samya, but with most girls the sex makes more than up for it.
Haus Panthera in ratingen. Great food and awesome girls. A lot of public action if you're up for it. Not the looks you'll find in Samya, but with most girls the sex makes more than up for it.Thanks for this info. Which day (s) of the week would you say would make the best visit conditions?
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Thanks for this info. Which day (s) of the week would you say would make the best visit conditions? OBetween Thu and Sat all girls are naked. I prefer these days. Some popular girls take Monday off. Andrea for example.
Trans Atlantic
11-03-13, 04:21
Want to tap the collective knowledge of the community. Only one I tried reentry is Atmos.
PussyLiccker
11-03-13, 04:35
I know LR allows it so I would think GT would also. Oase, I've done it. DV, yes, but if you come early for the 35e happy hour, they will tell you that you will have to pay extra as non-happy hour fee since you are coming back in after happy hour. I would like to know about Magnum re-entry since I don't want to go there early and be stuck there if they say they don't let me leave and come back, this is just for Gumbas of course, the line-up isn't that good there during the day.
Want to tap the collective knowledge of the community. Only one I tried reentry is Atmos.Oase and Bernds allow same day re-entry.
Hessen Bub
11-03-13, 10:47
Oase, World, Palace, Sharks. They all allow re-entry.
HB
Nille Copenhagen
11-03-13, 12:27
Oase, World, Palace, Sharks. They all allow re-entry.
HBI would add Atemis, VV, GT, LR, Atmos, Harmony, Babylon, Samya to the list.
Same for Artemis, also multiple times.
Kimino
Trans Atlantic
11-10-13, 03:25
Thanks all. Sounds like free re-entry is the norm.
PussyLiccker
11-10-13, 12:21
specifically regarding the DFK thing: It is often advisable to ask the girl to demostrate her DFK just for a few seconds before you go into the room. If she is an honest provider, and you agree in advance to go with her for one hour (and you don't have to promise this, remember) , then it should be okay for the girl to give you a short sample of her dfk BEFORE entering the room. (Don't they give you a small sample of the cheese when you buy it in a supermarket?)
If a girl hesitates to show you her DFK, that by itself should be a huge red flag and maybe you should back away from the whole session before you are committed.Found this from GT thread. This brings up an interesting idea. I haven't tried this, but would girls let you get samples of DFK if they say they offer it? I have had kissing outside the room, but it would seal up the deal. I'm thinking about asking girls if I can sample their DFK and decide if I want to commit or not. I know this is not a good idea as girls will refuse because of possibility of girls being hustled for free DFK, but want to try it. I think at certain clubs like GT, they would say they don't kiss outside the room.
Hessen Bub
11-10-13, 15:52
Try it out. I'd never do it. But there's different strategies and preferences. I never talk about the service I expect in the room, I let it happen. Others have a list of things they ask the girl before taking her to the room. Does she say no to one of them she's out.
HB
Found this from GT thread. This brings up an interesting idea. I haven't tried this, but would girls let you get samples of DFK if they say they offer it? I have had kissing outside the room, but it would seal up the deal. I'm thinking about asking girls if I can sample their DFK and decide if I want to commit or not. I know this is not a good idea as girls will refuse because of possibility of girls being hustled for free DFK, but want to try it. I think at certain clubs like GT, they would say they don't kiss outside the room.This is one of the "weird" things about FKK DFK. That is, that a lot of girls won't do it before being selected to go to the room. In fact, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever had DFK at an FKK before sealing the deal and heading to a room! But then when you get in there, some of the girls turn into tigresses grabbing you and going straight for it! It's weird because DFK is pretty standard in my other top destinations. And, kissing of any type is never anything that I ask for in advance either (and absolutely will not pay extra for!).
I can take it or leave it, but when it happens it's always so much more gratifying when it was just a natural occurrence between me and the girl. This is why I can understand those guys who don't like to negotiate about anything. I understand where they are coming from. If possible, I like to DFK before making a final selection because that gives the monger some indication of how passionate the girl is going to be during a session. I understand that some of them might be concerned about giving away "free" kisses. But, a more savvy tute might realize that strong DFK skills could be just the closer she needs to seal the deal! Hell, for a guy like me, by the time I get to DFK I'm pretty much sold on her anyway! I don't think I've ever declined a girl who I had just been twisting tongues with LOL!
I never talk about the service I expect in the room, I let it happen.Yep, absolutely same for me. It would spoil half of the fun. Makes me feel like I'm buying a car.
I rarely even talk before with the girls, just ask if they are free and off we go. Keep some chat for the room.
Kimino
PussyLiccker
11-11-13, 00:24
Is GFE more prevelant than what it used to be years ago? I know I could be kidding myself that it is since I'm much more suited in picking out GFE girls now that when I was a newb. As of late, I'm mainly reading reports of GFE (then again, I'm reading Palace reports. LOL.) , and it has me thinking service by girls are getting better although public action at FRA isn't taking place like it used to during the FRA golden days. Would like to hear what others think. I haven't punted long enough to really make a good judgement.
Hey PL,
I think you need to start by saying what GFE is to you as it can mean a different thing from one guy to another.
PussyLiccker
11-11-13, 00:50
Hey PL,
I think you need to start by saying what GFE is to you as it can mean a different thing from one guy to another.I thought there is still a commonality such as DFK, a good foreplay, and anti-mechical session you get in the room, like having sex with a girlfiend, hence "girl friend experience." Specific to me is being able to finger them, but that probably would not fall understand GFE to most. Also I would think most here would say their high rated reported gir's services are GFE.
Here is an online definition: The girlfriend experience (commonly known as GFE) is a type of service a female sex worker offers which includes acting like a girlfriend to the client. GFE may include french kissing, hugging, talking, and eating a meal together.[1]
and there is more in the link below
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriend_experience
If it means different thing to every man, why do we even use the term?
SharkEater
11-11-13, 01:06
Here is an online definition: The girlfriend experience (commonly known as GFE) is a type of service a female sex worker offers which includes acting like a girlfriend to the client. GFE may include french kissing, hugging, talking, and eating a meal together.This is the best description of a word in Wiki, LOL.
Also I would think most here would say their high rated reported girl's services are GFE.To the contrary, there are those guys like me whose high-rated girls deliver the treasured PSE: "PSE (Porn Star Experience) is a term to describe a sexual encounter that is very similar to what you would see in a pornographic film. Such as talking dirty, ejaculation in the mouth, a wide range of sexual positions and the willingness to sexually please. The sex tends to be raw and very hardcore with few rules." Of course, you did say "most" didn't you? I suppose the most versatile girls are the ones who can effectively deliver either the GFE or PSE according to the customer's taste. I have not had many who can successfully pull that off though. They tend to be good at one or the other, but not both.
PussyLiccker
11-11-13, 04:13
To the contrary, there are those guys like me whose high-rated girls deliver the treasured PSE: "PSE (Porn Star Experience) is a term to describe a sexual encounter that is very similar to what you would see in a pornographic film. Such as talking dirty, ejaculation in the mouth, a wide range of sexual positions and the willingness to sexually please. The sex tends to be raw and very hardcore with few rules." Of course, you did say "most" didn't you? I suppose the most versatile girls are the ones who can effectively deliver either the GFE or PSE according to the customer's taste. I have not had many who can successfully pull that off though. They tend to be good at one or the other, but not both.I knew somebody would point this out. Yeah, some value PSE and some value GFE, and some confuse PSE with GFE, and etc. LOL. I just want to consider them as good services or the girl putting efforts beyond the minimum. I like PSE too and also GFE, and sometimes mix of both. I guess the question should be,"has the service by the girls gotten better over the years?"
PussyLiccker
11-11-13, 04:18
This is one of the "weird" things about FKK DFK. That is, that a lot of girls won't do it before being selected to go to the room. In fact, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever had DFK at an FKK before sealing the deal and heading to a room! But then when you get in there, some of the girls turn into tigresses grabbing you and going straight for it! It's weird because DFK is pretty standard in my other top destinations. And, kissing of any type is never anything that I ask for in advance either (and absolutely will not pay extra for!).
I can take it or leave it, but when it happens it's always so much more gratifying when it was just a natural occurrence between me and the girl. This is why I can understand those guys who don't like to negotiate about anything. I understand where they are coming from. If possible, I like to DFK before making a final selection because that gives the monger some indication of how passionate the girl is going to be during a session. I understand that some of them might be concerned about giving away "free" kisses. But, a more savvy tute might realize that strong DFK skills could be just the closer she needs to seal the deal! Hell, for a guy like me, by the time I get to DFK I'm pretty much sold on her anyway! I don't think I've ever declined a girl who I had just been twisting tongues with LOL!This brings me to the question of which clubs are not so strict / or strict with DFK being a deal sealer. Anyone?
would girls let you get samples of DFK if they say they offer it?This happened to me once at World. Funny that I used as a way to shake off a girl who was pestering me all night. Said something like I would have to kiss you first and then make up my mind or something along those lines, thinking that she would let go. Big mistake and good one as the kiss really changed my mind and I am so happy that it did!
For me the only way to choose is to go by the vibe. I have my list of "essentials" but don't rule out a girl who won't do one of them provided the vibe is right. I need slim, DATY, DFK and so on but recently have had top rate sessions with girls who miss out at least one of these.
I go by the vibe (good or bad) and am never wrong (maybe you could argue that my expectation determines the outcome? But I think not)
I try not to use my intellect too much (it's worn out with overuse anyway) :)
This brings me to the question of which clubs are not so strict / or strict with DFK being a deal sealer. Anyone?Few years ago, DFK used to be the norm in most FKK / saunaclub in Germany, as well as OWO, and CIM / CIF (at surcharge) , but in many larger clubs, the standard DFK (and sometimes OWO) part of the offering seems lacking, so in general the GFE service is DECREASING (not increasing). Strangely, in more and more clubs AO (bareback) is offered, which can be considered INCREASING service (or crazy, depending on you reference).
Smaller clubs like Bernds, Panthera, Neby, Lubder Lounge, as well as RTCs (Freude, Alina, Venus, Grimberg, etc) are still offering the basic GFE (DFK, OWO) as standard, so that's why many experienced punters are ignoring the larger clubs and going to these much smaller clubs instead.
Forcharles
11-12-13, 07:47
What's the best expression or word in German for "upsell"?
PussyLiccker
11-12-13, 14:07
Few years ago, DFK used to be the norm in most FKK / saunaclub in Germany, as well as OWO, and CIM / CIF (at surcharge) , but in many larger clubs, the standard DFK (and sometimes OWO) part of the offering seems lacking, so in general the GFE service is DECREASING (not increasing). Strangely, in more and more clubs AO (bareback) is offered, which can be considered INCREASING service (or crazy, depending on you reference).=Maxime, that's hard to believe it was the norm as you say. If the few stunners at the clubs would DFK out in the open, I would agree. Which major clubs were these? Did girls at Palace do that? If girls at Palace did that, it must have been the norm. Oase, I've seen it at times last year in the lounge and more so in the cinema, so it wouldn't be a surprise.
Maxime, that's hard to believe it was the norm as you say. If the few stunners at the clubs would DFK out in the open, I would agree. Which major clubs were these? Did girls at Palace do that? If girls at Palace did that, it must have been the norm. Oase, I've seen it at times last year in the lounge and more so in the cinema, so it wouldn't be a surprise.This used to be the case in Oase, World, GT, etc, but not in the recent year (s). At Palace it was never the case I think, but did not visit it often, because of too many upselling sharks.
This used to be the case in Oase, World, GT, etc, but not in the recent year (s). At Palace it was never the case I think, but did not visit it often, because of too many upselling sharks.Never? Come now, sex in the main lounge was okay when I first went to Palace late 2004, certainly BBBJ, so I guess DFK too. The DFK would be too common place to stick in my hazy memory. However I remember spending time with Linda of the Seychelles at the Palace and we would indulge in DFK, BBBJ, DATY etc. while waiting for a room to be available so pretty much anywhere (Latin girls usually aren't so shy). I did get scolded for kissing Daniella's pussy like a "hello" in the reception area though (not by Daniella. She didn't mind).
I think DFK is still possible in the lounge with the right girls. I wonder how many girls my buddy DFKed in the lounge at the World Halloween party? More than one I'm sure.
I think Roxanna at Sharks is fine with a little tongue in the lounge, and bound to be others. Its not like I take notes on this subject though. So hard to remember how long it went for. I am going to get it in the room anyway, so no big deal one way or the other if the girl is a bit shy.
Note that some girls don't give DFK in public so that they can reserve it for customers they really like kissing as distinct from providing to absolutely everyone. Brunette Maria (Deu) at Oase claimed she didn't normally kiss but was willing with me. Maybe she uses same story with everyone LOL, or maybe depends on whether the guy has good mouth hygiene.
Overall DFK in lounge may be a little uncommon, but certainly possible with the right girls. I guess I only expect to maybe get a DFK from my regular girls. They don't usually do it completely for free. Too many guys trying to get freebie stuff.
Most girls in World will say they don't want to kiss in public, either because of other girls or because of other men. Some may give you a short DFK, just to show it will be better in the room. Or they pull you to the kino or one of those couches at back, that is secluded. Even girls that start out not caring, quickly adapt to the mores (fi Neya). The 'I don't kiss with everyone' is mostly BS though, it both flatters the client and gets him of your back about public kissing.
In my experience it is quite a bit better in Sharks, but there was the whole 'rule change' a few months ago and I haven't been that much since (so I don't know what the current situation is). Oase used to be best in this regard in Hessen. There was a time I never went to a room without making out with a girl for a while, first. That started changing and in the last visits I hardly saw any public action (including DFK) taking place.
Places where it is really the norm (as in. 90%+ sessions start with public action) are the smaller clubs in NRW: Babylon, Luderlounge, Neby, Freude, Panthera, Bernds, the RTC clubs, etc.
In my experience it is quite a bit better in Sharks, but there was the whole 'rule change' a few months ago and I haven't been that much since (so I don't know what the current situation is).What 'rule change'? I haven been there only since.
I have observed some fair passion kissing, I thought, although I did not pay very close attention as I wasn't stalking anyone. My lounge tongue kissing Roxanna would have been fairly brief in the lounge. I wasn't trying to get it extended.
PussyLiccker
11-13-13, 03:47
I'm not a long time punter so I can't say much about how it was years ago. But it is interesting to hear. I could say though that even back in Fall'11. 2012 I was amazed to see public action at Oase. That was before the wall was taken down at the Kino, I haven't been there much so I can't say how much of an affect taking down the wall has.
It was just last year that I took a girl to the back couches in the non-smoking area, and we were going at it like no tomorrow. I just kept kissin, and she didn't stop for like for what was like 1. 5 hours. The funny thing is she never asked me for the room. So we went to the room, more kissin, and of course at the locker she asked me for 2 hours fee. I gave to 50e. And, everytime I approach her she moves alway, and she says she doesn't remember me. I know I'm going to hell, but at the time, I thought time starts ticking when you're in the room at Oase. That was my public action and more (I kissed every girls in the kino before I went to the room, it was a procedure for every girl) , It was a common sight to see. I would always see this old man in the same couch DFKing different girls every time I see him at the club (so don't believe girls being selective with DFK). Another old man getting a blow job by bar area. One time, when I was sitting on the waiting cushion seats by the club entrance in front of the bar, right next to me a man was getting a BJ had his hand on her head and fucking a girl in the mouth. Also outside action during the summer happened at times, but usually after dark.
Mostly older folks doing public action, and maybe it was more common years ago. But even last year at Oase, I saw kissing on the couches pretty frequently. I like the club because it was so easy to get attractive girls to do more than the usual. The thing about Oase was, when I was a newb I would go with certain girls, and these girls would try very hard to get me to go with them again. One time, I used to go with this girls who did a fantastic job in the room, pretty much anything I wanted, but I got kinda bored of her so I didn't go with her, she came by the cinema and just sat there for a long time, and kept making out and etc. I told her I didn't want to go to the room, and she looked shocked, which is understandable. But, I felt bad and later that night I took her for 1 hour session. Sweetest girl, and many girls I met at Oase were sweet.
ShoesAndSocks
11-13-13, 07:25
Mostly older folks doing public action, and maybe it was more common years ago.So, how do folks feel about public action in FKKs?
My public action includes-
* Palace / Artemis: full sessions in kino.
* Oase: full session in the now open kino.
* Globe: full sessions in kino, various lounge couches, and up on the terrace.
I find I get a real buzz from it, which surprised me initially since I'm far more introvert than extrovert.
And, it's not in any way that I feel I'm putting on a pornstar show. It's more a feeling of liberation, throwing off all the inhibitions of clothes and "only behind closed doors" and just satisfying a sexual urge the way all other creatures would, mixed in with a dash of Roman orgy / debauchery feel.
Perhaps it is an "old man" thing, and I'm just showing my age.
Banana Boi
11-13-13, 10:30
I would add Atemis, VV, GT, LR, Atmos, Harmony, Babylon, Samya to the list.ACA re-entry is free up to 3 hours.
It used to be extremely commonplace but is now a rarity as far as I can see. The final nail in its coffin seems to be the very strict moral code of the vast majority of Romanians (and before anyone mentions names of exceptions, I say the exception proves the rule)
SwingerLover
11-13-13, 16:50
What's the best expression or word in German for "upsell"?I don't think there's a real literal translation possible here, so I'll have to go with: "Zusatzverkäufe machen" (which would literally translate as "make adiitional sales").
Hessen Bub
11-13-13, 18:08
I've had public full sex at Atlantis, Oase (inside and outside) , Palace, World (in and out). But nowadays most girls are too shy. So it's usually limited to the cinema.
HB
I don't think there's a real literal translation possible here, so I'll have to go with: "Zusatzverkäufe machen" (which would literally translate as "make adiitional sales").Yes, that does do justice. I always looked at Zushlag as "surcharge." How does "girls with a surcharge," sound?
Hessen Bub
11-13-13, 21:54
Upsell. In a club I'd translate that as "Extras verkaufen wollen".
HB
ShoesAndSocks
11-14-13, 00:47
I've had public full sex at Atlantis, Oase (inside and outside) , Palace, World (in and out). But nowadays most girls are too shy.
The final nail in its coffin seems to be the very strict moral code of the vast majority of RomaniansGood points. I've always asked the lady if she's comfortable with it, even for sessions in the kino. I'd go as far as saying some of the ones I did it with seemed to get into it as much as I did. Maybe it's a welcome change from the routine of room sessions.
Once when lying in the sun on the Globe terrace (where public sex is common, esp. BBBJ) , a couple couldn't find a spot in one of the secluded beds up there. As they stood there considering their options, I half-jokingly suggested the lounge chair next to me. The lady full-unjokingly suggested that was on only if I paid CHF 140 as well. The guy looked disappointed. So, it seems some see it as "giving it away". I see it very differently. If she'd happily done it, her guy would have been very happy and likely to repeat, and I would probably have been her next client.
PussyLiccker
11-14-13, 01:03
So I guess It may have to do with mostly Romanians in the clubs today. So most Romanians are shy of public action. When public action was going on few years back, what was the percentage of Romanian population? Girls of which ethnicity was seem more often for public action?
SwingerLover
11-14-13, 04:05
Upsell. In a club I'd translate that as "Extras verkaufen wollen".Yes, that sounds more club-like. My translation "Zusatzverkäufe machen" is more general and applies everywhere where someone is "upselling".
Yes, that does do justice. I always looked at Zushlag as "surcharge." How does "girls with a surcharge," sound?Yes,"Zuschlag" translates as "surcharge", but that doesn't quite fit for the term "upsell" as I understand it. A "Zuschlag" (=surcharge) would be an additional payment for something you already paid or have to pay. (Like when the mailman collects an additional fee if there was no stamp on a letter.) Upsell means that they sell you something else in additon to your original purchase. (Like a sun roof when you buy a car or some sauce to go with your pasta. Or at a club: Anal for an additional price to a regular session.)
When public action was going on few years back, what was the percentage of Romanian population? Girls of which ethnicity was seem more often for public action?Romanians were then almost non-existent (in Germany), although one of the most outstanding public performers was Romanian. In my experience it was mostly with Brazilian, Russian, Czech and German girls and was a daily repeat occurrence in Atlantis, Oase and World. But the atmosphere has now changed so generally it is not to be expected. The best option might be to try gangbangs or swingerclubs now.
PussyLiccker
11-14-13, 14:26
Punters has been asking about numbers of girls in clubs, and it could be helpful for newbies and people that take limited trips and the like. So I'll start out asking what are the maximum number of girls of a club and minimum it falls to during the week. Specifics on the days would be helpful. I personally am interested in the well known clubs in the NRW and Hessen, but I'm sure many punters here that reads this forum would benefit from information about generally any club. Thank you.
To Start off, here is a reports by BB about Mondial which seems to have the biggest line-up. I'm sure he will update us on girls count on weekends days.
2nd visit to Mondial tonight. I was warned not to go because they have live Turkish music on Wednesdays nights and it draws in a ton of Turkish guys. I hated it because the turkish singing was screechy.
As for the talent many nice girls were missing tonight. I was told still 70 girls but seemed fewer. Was also told weekends can bring in 110-120 girls. What other club can boast that? I have met my 2 favorite FKK girls here. One is a pure rookie who likely won't last long.
Funny the only girls I haven't received some form of kissing on this trip is 1 girl at ACA who was coughing so I didn't try and one girl at PSR which is supposedly a high mileage club (?). I also don't think I got any kissing from that skinny girl I went with at World.
Really? I was there tonight (Tuesday) and was told by one of the girls there are 80 girls there. I thought it was actually more than 80. There were girls everywhere. There could not have been more than 30 guys.
I went with 2 girls I would consider 9+. One was a Genie in the Bottle version of Christina Aguilera and the other was a Spanish girl who looked like a supermodel. It was her first day in a sauna club. Both look 19.
I could have easily went with 10+ girls and imo was the best lineup I saw in any club this trip tied with if not better than GT. I prefer my girls young cute petite / slim and girls here fit the bill. I would say 70% of them are under 23. I do agree there are a lot of big girls here that are a turn off but I guess the Turks love their big girls.
I don't mind the loud music since I love dance music but it makes it really hard to talk to the girls unless you step away from the main club area. I like the couches on the lower level. Nice couch time with your favorite girl but at 30 euro per 20 minutes you can try every girl. I heard 1 guy did 10 girls today. lol
Did you guys see the hot Ro bartender? I can only assume she worked there at one point in time. Wow.
This is a hyped up version of Samya. The lineup blows away Samya right now.
I went in with no expectations and thought it was going to be an early night. I left thinking I just had one of the best FKK nights I ever had. I will be at Mondial for the rest of my trip if anyone wants to hang out. LOL
Romanians were then almost non-existent (in Germany), although one of the most outstanding public performers was Romanian.You would not be referring to the "female tornado" at World several years ago by the name of Daniella, would you? A few of us have some hard-to-forget memories of this girl, eh?
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So, how do folks feel about public action in FKKs?I've had public full sex in the garden of World (a quiet part shielded from the rest of the garden by some trees) and the kinos of Oase (the old one) , Artemis, Samya, Living Room and Babylon (Hamburg). In most cases it was to avoid waiting for a room, except outdoors in World, where the attraction was about being outdoors, not in public.
You would not be referring to the "female tornado" at World several years ago by the name of Daniella, would you? A few of us have some hard-to-forget memories of this girl, eh?
OExactly right
To quote my own estimates.
"Most mornings and early afternoons there are about 20 girls or so, with few men. From around 15. 00 the evening shift starts to arrive and gradually the numbers build up to around maybe 40 girls on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday or Thursday. 50 or 60 on Wednesday, and 80 or more on Friday Saturday. Many of the day shift will stay until well after 21. 00 when some of them will have started going home"
Usually well more than 2 girls for each man, sometimes 10:1
Most girls in World will say they don't want to kiss in public, either because of other girls or because of other men. Some may give you a short DFK, just to show it will be better in the room. Or they pull you to the kino or one of those couches at back, that is secluded. Even girls that start out not caring, quickly adapt to the mores (fi Neya). The 'I don't kiss with everyone' is mostly BS though, it both flatters the client and gets him of your back about public kissing.
In my experience it is quite a bit better in Sharks, but there was the whole 'rule change' a few months ago and I haven't been that much since (so I don't know what the current situation is). Oase used to be best in this regard in Hessen. There was a time I never went to a room without making out with a girl for a while, first. That started changing and in the last visits I hardly saw any public action (including DFK) taking place.
Places where it is really the norm (as in. 90%+ sessions start with public action) are the smaller clubs in NRW: Babylon, Luderlounge, Neby, Freude, Panthera, Bernds, the RTC clubs, etc.+1 this is how it is
Yes, that sounds more club-like. My translation "Zusatzverkäufe machen" is more general and applies everywhere where someone is "upselling".
Yes,"Zuschlag" translates as "surcharge", but that doesn't quite fit for the term "upsell" as I understand it. A "Zuschlag" (=surcharge) would be an additional payment for something you already paid or have to pay. (Like when the mailman collects an additional fee if there was no stamp on a letter.) Upsell means that they sell you something else in additon to your original purchase. (Like a sun roof when you buy a car or some sauce to go with your pasta. Or at a club: Anal for an additional price to a regular session.) Its a sell but not a sale, much more and offer, so some sort of "Angebot" but I should leave Deutsche to the Germans.
PussyLiccker
12-06-13, 14:16
What clubs close at Christmas and New years? Also, how are the clubs around the holidays? Do most of the girls leave home for the holidays?
Hessen Bub
12-06-13, 19:01
Sharks pays the girls 1. 200€ if they stay from 20. 12. Until 06. 01. So Sharks should have a decent line-up.
HB
I need an excuse to take regular trips to Germany. Time is not an issue. Money is not an issue. A probably reason for traveling to Germany is an issue. I need a hobby that will add plausibility to regular periodic trips to Germany.
Any thoughts?
StarletVoyager
12-06-13, 21:10
Say you are inter-railing around europe using germany as a base to explore east europe etc. Germany is located in the centre and ideal to use as a base. The excuse I use is that I use to go out with a girl on an erasmus exchange program for students from the uk to germany and after I left her I fell in love with german techno dance clubs so I go back for partying which is almost true.
RempNobbes
12-06-13, 22:46
Say you are inter-railing around europe using germany as a base to explore east europe etc. Germany is located in the centre and ideal to use as a base. The excuse I use is that I use to go out with a girl on an erasmus exchange program for students from the uk to germany and after I left her I fell in love with german techno dance clubs so I go back for partying which is almost true.I could give you an excuse depending on what business you are. I do have my own company here in Germany. So what if you say you are looking for a business trip? Easy to give you e mails or even other excuses. I am regularly traveling to US. For example third week of January in San Diego. So we can stick our heads together. Cheers or Prost from Germany.
RM
Mango Head
12-07-13, 12:43
I have developed, in my advancing middle age, an abiding interest and passion for European history, especially WWII. This combined with some flexibility in scheduling work related travel, has forced me to schedule connections and long layovers in Germany.
Oliver Kitsoff
12-07-13, 16:42
What clubs close at Christmas and New years? Also, how are the clubs around the holidays? Do most of the girls leave home for the holidays?I second this query from PussyLiccker.
Also, I am alone this Christmas. Although I have an invitation from some friends where I live, they are also inviting a fat old I hate, and the sons will probably get very drunk, and I just don't need the fake present-giving and watching shit TV etc etc!
Is anyone in Germany (or another good mongering EU location) over Christmas who is in a similar situation and wants to meet for a meal and a few drinks?
Obviously, it will be nice to get some Christmas pussy as well, so wherever you are in the EU Switzerland. Austria. CZ, in fact anywhere in the EU that is likely to have some quality pussy very close to or even at Christmas day, will be great!
PM me so I can work out travel from southern Europe ASAP!
OK
Germany is a good place to learn German (of course you will need to put in some work to show you have benefitted from your "study" visits)
PussyLiccker
12-07-13, 23:53
Sharks pays the girls 1. 200€ if they stay from 20. 12. Until 06. 01. So Sharks should have a decent line-up.
HBThanks HB. I may check it out, although I'll stay at the NRW. Will most of the clubs be open on Christmas day?
Say you are inter-railing around europe using germany as a base to explore east europe etc. Germany is located in the centre and ideal to use as a base. The excuse I use is that I use to go out with a girl on an erasmus exchange program for students from the uk to germany and after I left her I fell in love with german techno dance clubs so I go back for partying which is almost true.This is what I have been doing absent the techno dancing. Wife wouldn't understand that. But this is only good about a month a year.
I have developed, in my advancing middle age, an abiding interest and passion for European history, especially WWII. This combined with some flexibility in scheduling work related travel, has forced me to schedule connections and long layovers in Germany.Not a bad idea. Perhaps I could even weave in a course at the local junior college.
I could give you an excuse depending on what business you are. I do have my own company here in Germany. So what if you say you are looking for a business trip? Easy to give you e mails or even other excuses. I am regularly traveling to US. For example third week of January in San Diego. So we can stick our heads together. Cheers or Prost from Germany.
RMI have plenty of time, because I do not work. I play.
Oliver Kitsoff
12-08-13, 14:49
Thanks HB. I may check it out, although I'll stay at the NRW. Will most of the clubs be open on Christmas day?On the Sharks website there is an Event notice of a NYE party. 31/21/13 but no mention of an Event on 25 or 26 Dec (Public holidays in Germany.) I would have thought any club open on these days will be making the most of it with an announcement on their site?
Hessen Bub
12-08-13, 16:09
Sharks in December:
24. 12. 13 19. 00 bis 5. 00 Uhr.
25. 12. 13 14. 00 bis 5. 00 Uhr.
26. 12. 13 11. 00 bis 5. 00 Uhr.
31. 12. 13 16. 00 bis 7. 00 Uhr.
01. 01. 14 15. 00 bis 4. 00 Uhr.
HB
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