General Info

[JumboTex]

I`ll be staying in munich and Stuttgart during the weekend prior to new year (including Monday). Since I am a newbie can you tell me what would be the best place to go for FKK first-timers in that area?

I am reading a lot of experiences in this forum and I am eager to visit German`s FKK. According to what I have seen here, Sakura seems to be the biggest one in the area and a good choice.

Any other reccomendations?

Thanks a lot!

Additionally I understood most of the terms written here, except `sharks`. Word used for some of the girls in frankfurt. Does this mean some kind of ripoff or is the girl too mechanic? I am sorry if this is a stupid or funny question for you, but as I said, I am new and still learning.

[Hessen Bub]

Stuttgart: Sakura (Böblingen) or Paradise (Leinfelden-Echterdingen). I'd prefer Paradise.

Munich: Colosseum (Augsburg) or Hawaii (Ingolstadt).

A shark is a girl trying to rip you off.

HB

[PussyLiccker]

Paradise was my first club experience actually. Believe it or not I actually went there to spend a day there as the all day buffet sounded great with the nude girls. So I was thinking just hang out looking at nude girls, then the craziest thing happened. A girl took me up to the TV lounge upstairs and we sat and watched porn, and she blew me BBBJ, and I was pretty shocked as I thought girls blow with condoms like the RLD. That was the start of my FKK career. lol.

Anyway, Paradise has much bigger line-up than Sakura, although I got pretty addicted to two girls there. If you want to see all the girls, go around dinner time as during the day it's pretty quiet and less girls there. I would recommend Paradise like HB.

[Member #4581]

Is there a FKK in Hanover? Is it any good?

Are there any reports on Hanover FKKs here, I could not find any?

[Amriptna111]

I have developed, in my advancing middle age, an abiding interest and passion for European history, especially WWII. This combined with some flexibility in scheduling work related travel, has forced me to schedule connections and long layovers in Germany.Reminds me at one time I met a punter who was telling after fkk he is going to Cambodia vietnam and Thailand because he wants to see world war museum as he lis into war history. I was so like you got to be kidding me as everyone knows the countries they are famous for prossies. My guess was correct as when in the train going back to frnakfurt from oase he accidentally blurted out "you can get can get XXX age girls there" and yeah those girls would land you up in jail here.

I think when people hear this excuse they will smile and nod but they will be so suspicious.

[Hessen Bub]

Is there a fkk in Hanover? Is it any good? Are there any reports on Hanover fkks here, I could not find any?There's FKK Villa: http://www.fkk-villa.de/index.html

I wouldn't take a long drive to visit, but if you are in the area.

HB

[PussyLiccker]

I actually checked out FKK Villa, and unfortunately, my impressions of the place isn't very good. I was there from day to evening, and there was aroound 10 girls, and 6 of them were older and overweight. I did one girl there because she was a decent looking one of the pack. I could have went there on a slow day, but I don't feel a club of 10 girls would get better. I would drive out to Artemis, Freude39 (or other small clubs around the area) , or the NRW.

[The Cane]

Reminds me at one time I met a punter who was telling after fkk he is going to Cambodia vietnam and Thailand because he wants to see world war museum as he lis into war history. I was so like you got to be kidding me as everyone knows the countries they are famous for prossies. My guess was correct as when in the train going back to frnakfurt from oase he accidentally blurted out "you can get can get XXX age girls there" and yeah those girls would land you up in jail here.

I think when people hear this excuse they will smile and nod but they will be so suspicious.Any time you've got some middle-aged guy telling you he's going to southeast Asia because he loves the history and the "architecture", just give him a look sideways to let him know he can't bullshit you LOL!

[Amriptna111]

Any time you've got some middle-aged guy telling you he's going to southeast Asia because he loves the history and the "architecture", just give him a look sideways to let him know he can't bullshit you LOL!Sometimes I avoid having conversations with weird guys in fkk. Truth be told there was something so weird about him when he was telling me about fkk in Asutria, Spain brothels and etc. But when I heard about what kind of girls he really liked I feel sick. The man was clearly a predator.

[James Bond 007]

What clubs close at Christmas and New years? Also, how are the clubs around the holidays? Do most of the girls leave home for the holidays?Golden Time is closed 12/24 and 12/31. However they are open on both 12/25, 12/26 and 1/1. I think Living Room is closed on all these days though.

Many of the NRW clubs are open on Silvester (12/31). Acapulco, Magnum, Planet Happy Garden, Heaven 7 and others.

[Banana Boi]

Golden Time is closed 12/24 and 12/31. However they are open on both 12/25, 12/26 and 1/1. I think Living Room is closed on all these days though.Anyone know if GT allows the LR girls to work at GT on those days?

[JumboTex]

Stuttgart: Sakura (Böblingen) or Paradise (Leinfelden-Echterdingen). I'd prefer Paradise.

Munich: Colosseum (Augsburg) or Hawaii (Ingolstadt).

A shark is a girl trying to rip you off.

HBThanks a lot! I will report when I finish the tour.

[Breadman]

I know Palace, samya, LR and goldentime give you free entrance on your birthday. What might the door policy be on the 'eve' of your birthday if you arrive at 1am? Officially its your birthday, would they honor their free entry policy after midnight?

[Maxime]

I know Palace, samya, LR and goldentime give you free entrance on your birthday. What might the door policy be on the 'eve' of your birthday if you arrive at 1am? Officially its your birthday, would they honor their free entry policy after midnight?

Also service clubs like Panthera and Babylon offer this. Normally this free entrance can be used plus / min 6 days from your birthday, but don't know if this is true for all clubs mentioned.

[Eeyore]

After moving back to America and following several years of tasting the FKK scene, I can recall meeting women from all over the world, but women from the United States were conspicuously absent among the selections. I've told talented providers in the US about FKKs, and their responses range from incredulous to interested. What would an ambitious young American woman need to do to work in Germany? Are patrons of FKKs interested in American talent? Most importantly, are there any American girls working at FKKs who would mentor a newcomer?

[UltraHappy]

After moving back to America and following several years of tasting the FKK scene, I can recall meeting women from all over the world, but women from the United States were conspicuously absent among the selections. I've told talented providers in the US about FKKs, and their responses range from incredulous to interested. What would an ambitious young American woman need to do to work in Germany? Are patrons of FKKs interested in American talent? Most importantly, are there any American girls working at FKKs who would mentor a newcomer?Authorization to work in Europe is a huge obstacle for American women to work in FKKs.

[Eeyore]

Authorization to work in Europe is a huge obstacle for American women to work in FKKs.Well, I found authorization to work in Europe to be a huge obstacle for American men, but I was still able to do it, at least for a short time.

How would an American woman find a European sponsor?

[Forcharles]

Well, I found authorization to work in Europe to be a huge obstacle for American men, but I was still able to do it, at least for a short time.

How would an American woman find a European sponsor?I could be wrong, but since the workers at FKKs are independent, they might be able to work in Germany for a maximum of 90 days on a tourist visa. They may not need a sponsor during the three months.

Since the USA is not a part of the European Union, all this may not be true. The next time I'm at Mainhatten or Sharks, I'll ask the management about such legal possibilities.

[UltraHappy]

I could be wrong, but since the workers at FKKs are independent, they might be able to work in Germany for a maximum of 90 days on a tourist visa. They may not need a sponsor during the three months.

Since the USA is not a part of the European Union, all this may not be true. The next time I'm at Mainhatten or Sharks, I'll ask the management about such legal possibilities.Yes, what you suggest is possible. American women could easily come to Europe and work in an FKK on a tourist visa, assuming the FKK allowed this even though the girl lacked a work authorization. The only problem with this approach is that it is definitely illegal.

[Hessen Bub]

No club will allow a US-girl to work on a tourist visa.

HB

[Eeyore]

No club will allow a US-girl to work on a tourist visa.

HBHow about a student visa? They would be studying the FKK model. In other words, they could work the front desk or the bar, not necessarily full services.

[Eeyore]

Yes, what you suggest is possible. American women could easily come to Europe and work in an FKK on a tourist visa, assuming the FKK allowed this even though the girl lacked a work authorization. The only problem with this approach is that it is definitely illegal.So how do women from other countries outside the EU—such as from Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Cuba and Russia, not to mention possible ascension countries like Ukraine and Moldova— work at FKKs? I've met women working at FKKs from all of these countries, not to mention those from other places outside the EU. Would an American woman on a tourist visa face any greater risk?

[Citizen Kane]

So how do women from other countries outside the EU—such as from Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Cuba and Russia, not to mention possible ascension countries like Ukraine and Moldova— work at FKKs? I've met women working at FKKs from all of these countries, not to mention those from other places outside the EU. Would an American woman on a tourist visa face any greater risk?They're lying. They're all from Romania. Even the black and Asian ones.

[Tjohoo]

So how do women from other countries outside the EU—such as from Thailand, Brazil, Colombia, Cuba and Russia, not to mention possible ascension countries like Ukraine and Moldova— work at FKKs?I had a session with a Thai girl a coulpe of years ago in NRW. She told me she was married to a german guy. I guess a relationship with some one I Germany is one way to solve it.

T

[SwingerLover]

I've met women working at FKKs from all of these countries, not to mention those from other places outside the EU. Would an American woman on a tourist visa face any greater risk?Those non-EU women either have a work permit or are working there illegally! American women will need a visa with a working permit as well. A couple of years ago, there was a raid at a Spermagames-party when Emma Starr was supposed to party there. She didn't have a work permit, so the party had to happen without her.

[PussyLiccker]

Was Romania included in the EU for the girls? So that we can get good service for 50 Euros(so it doesn't get inflated for a decade? lol. curious if P4P can get inflated.) and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the German WGs? LOL. All these influx of Romanian girls should have an effect on Romanian economy, and hopefully they use it to their benefit to improve their conditions. Then again, if that happens no more hard working for 50 Euros tutes in FKK!

One thing I like to know is how the influx of Romanian girls effects the German economy. Voyager mentioned that 60% of punters at Oase are other than German, so that brings in money to the country. But the Romanian girls are taking money to Romania.

German punters make up around 40% of an FKK clientele during non Mesee periods. The rest is us, lots of Americans, italians, many arab and asian nationalities whom always seem to be there in large numbers.
Anyway it doesn't affect me in anyway, just curious.

About the American girl that wants to work in the clubs. Maybe there is a temporary work visa or other, should research that so that she can work temporarily. Yes, she's not from a country that is part of the Union, she probably needs to be registed so that Germany can get taxes from her.

She should be sure that she is ok with FKK environment as I've seen these poor girls first day in the clubs that looked to be frightened kittens. First day in FKK for girls would be pretty rough. I think GT is pretty rough on the girls, the new girls I prey on there have sweaty palms and has frightened eyes.

Eeyore is the first pimp I know of in this forum. LOL.

[Eeyore]

Eeyore is the first pimp I know of in this forum. LOL.Sorry, that's a serious charge where I come from and even if I don't find it funny, I hope it is meant as a joke. The reason I ask is that the women I tell about FKKs seem not to believe such places exist-they think I'm telling them some weird male fantasy. Almost all I tell are curious and I've encouraged them to visit and check one out even if they don't / can't work just to see I'm not just making it up. Especially the students who are working their way through school and want to travel abroad a semester. I'm sure that there is a downside. While it might not benefit them, I assure you that there is nothing in it for me. Quite the contrary-some of the most intelligent and skilled providers would leave America if it was an option and they found it worked out for them.

[Arctic]

Quite the contrary-some of the most intelligent and skilled providers would leave America if it was an option and they found it worked out for them.Why would they do that when a 40 year old escort in reasonably good shape can make $300 per hour in some US markets?

Go to the ECCIE website and check out the New Orleans market ... basically ALL U.S. markets the professionals do better than they ever would for 100 Euro's per hour in an FKK.

Unless you are talking BACKPAGE girls - in which case you'd have to remove the words "intelligent" and "skilled" from your statement.

[UltraHappy]

Why would they do that when a 40 year old escort in reasonably good shape can make $300 per hour in some US markets?

Go to the ECCIE website and check out the New Orleans market. Basically ALL USA markets the professionals do better than they ever would for 100 Euro's per hour in an FKK.

Unless you are talking BACKPAGE girls. In which case you'd have to remove the words "intelligent" and "skilled" from your statement.Another factor to consider is that it is totally illegal in the States. This is a big risk (boy or girl) for the participants over here in the States. In my State for example, they are always setting up stings and catching people all the time (at least according to the local media). The illegality also tends to make total possible customer throughout less (much easier to snag X number of customers in an FKK rather than having to do a web site and getting the occasional booking here or there). Granted, it's different in every market and many girls are very successful with the escorting here in the States. Still, there's always that fear of being caught.

Even where the girl is extremely careful about not getting caught, there is difficulty of not having legal recourse if something goes awry since the transaction is illegal over here. If a guy slaps the girl around or whatever, the girl has a more difficult time going to the police in those situations due to the illegality.

Just some factors that might tip the balance to a lower cost FKK model. More customers, more legal versus higher price, illegal. Of course, most Americans have no work authorization in Germany so this is largely a moot point.

[Capt Dan]

Gentlemen,

With all due respect, talk of North American women working in European FKK / Sauna Clubs belongs in the realm of fantasy and certainly not in the General Info Thread. What General Information are you offering fellow members? I suggest that you take this "discussion" to a more appropriate location I. E. The Lounge and Chat Section, where subject matter of a more fictional nature is more easily tolerated.

[Timberline]

Wondering, in all the reports I've read, it seems that I would be paying for 30/60 minutes at a time, nobody seems to mention as to how this time is kept track of. Is there clocks on the wall in the room or do you have to bring a wristwatch or do you go by what the provider says. I've read several reports and no one seems to say how the time is kept track of.

Thanks in advance to those that respond.

[ShoesAndSocks]

how this time is kept track ofI can't recall any FKK I've visited having clocks in the room. The provider keeps track of time, but I would strongly recommend wearing a watch and conspicuously noting the start time when entering the room. In fact, I like to tell the lady something like "OK, it's 8. 15pm, let's go for an hour" right at the start just so there is no room for argument. You can always extend if you want once you're happy with the session.

I wear an old diving watch which can handle the showers / spas / pools.

[PussyLiccker]

In fact, I like to tell the lady something like "OK, it's 8. 15pm, let's go for an hour" right at the start just so there is no room for argument.This is a good way to let the lady know that you are mindful of the time. I like this.

At the NRW, clubs such as ACA and Magnum has a key counter that issues you and the lady a key and writes down the times. Also at ACA, there is a clock on top of the door, but it's too far to make out the time, and you don't want to walk over to it in a middle of a BJ.

[Akibono]

This is a good way to let the lady know that you are mindful of the time. I like this.

At the NRW, clubs such as ACA and Magnum has a key counter that issues you and the lady a key and writes down the times. Also at ACA, there is a clock on top of the door, but it's too far to make out the time, and you don't want to walk over to it in a middle of a BJ.You can always take it down and place it near the bed. Best anti-sharking tool available. LOL!

[Arctic]

I've never had a problem with times.

My standard is."As long as I'm having a good time. I'll stay." That's what I tell the girls.

I have a watch. So it's not like I need an FKK supplied clock to tell what time it is.

Most girls aren't that enthusiastic to do a simple 30 min session with no extras. I usually tell them we're going to go at least an hour unless I get angry or something. I've never gotten angry though. I've found that once the girl realizes you aren't out for a cheepo quicky. She relaxes and has a good time.

Then again. I always tip pretty heavy. I only go to the FKK's about once a year for about a week so I bring plenty of cash with me. I don't have time to fuck around with unmotivated girls who give poor service. You'd be surprised at how some girls who get poor reviews turn into porno vixens behind closed doors when they know they are going to make a bit more money in a session.

What I HAVE had a problem is. Is some girls feel entitled to repeat sessions with me. And actually get angry that I won't take them for another fuck. But I don't give a shit about them. I tell them to get lost.

Then there are girls who respect my decisions. They'll keep checking on me from time to time to see if I want them again. Or they'll bring a friend by and ask if she's hot enough for me to do doubles. They'll just smile real big and say."Okay, I'm here if you need me, Arctic". I LOVE those girls. They make the FKK experience unbelievable.

[Hessen Bub]

I can't recall any FKK I've visited having clocks in the room. The provider keeps track of time,Ever been to Sharks? They've put clocks in EVERY room a few months ago. And yes, the provider does keep track of time, but dependig on the girl and how well you know her you should do the same.

HB

[UltraHappy]

Unless I know the girl well, I not only note the time on my phone or watch but I also conspicuously show the time to the girl and repeat it out loud too,"Ah, it's 8:06 pm." That way, the girl knows that I know the time and she will be less likely to get creative with the time or try to suddenly create a revisionist history of when we started in the room.

This is also a good safeguard for those rare times when I forget when we started. I can ask the girl what time we started and she's more likely to remember and / or give me the correct starting time back.

You can't just rely on the girl to keep track of the time for two reasons: (1) sometimes they like to get creative and (2) if you've gone 40 minutes, you're already paying for an hour, so you've got some extra time to enjoy in the room before going to pay (otherwise, you've just lost 15-20 minutes of play time by not keeping track of the time).

[Eeyore]

Another factor to consider is that it is totally illegal in the States. This is a big risk (boy or girl) for the participants over here in the States. In my State for example, they are always setting up stings and catching people all the time (at least according to the local media). The illegality also tends to make total possible customer throughout less (much easier to snag X number of customers in an FKK rather than having to do a web site and getting the occasional booking here or there). Granted, it's different in every market and many girls are very successful with the escorting here in the States. Still, there's always that fear of being caught.

Even where the girl is extremely careful about not getting caught, there is difficulty of not having legal recourse if something goes awry since the transaction is illegal over here. If a guy slaps the girl around or whatever, the girl has a more difficult time going to the police in those situations due to the illegality.

Just some factors that might tip the balance to a lower cost FKK model. More customers, more legal versus higher price, illegal. Of course, most Americans have no work authorization in Germany so this is largely a moot point.You nailed it. The other factor is that just staying in Europe for 30-90 days is appealing to many Americans. If top providers can take a three month vacation and pick up a little spending money on the side by working a few hours, they'll do it. Another thing is that some of them just fucking love Europeans and there aren't enough Europeans here for them to fuck.

[StarletVoyager]

In my recent trip which included 10 girls and 9 hours in room including a threesome I found the best policy in each case was just to say I want 1 hour once at the start and never mention the time again. You will know instinctively if its been an hour or very near to. I mean does it really matter if 5 or 10 mins are not met assuming you have had a great time. Also I never asked before what we were going to do or not do, for eg I did not ask about kissing or similar. Once in the room it is okay to mildly discuss what fetishes or turn ons you like but I also asked the girl what turned her on too every time. The minute you start adding time restrictions or monitoring the time, this shows them there is an element of mistrust from the start and yes it will linger during the hour. Once you start making advance demands about what you want sexually a psychological barrier has been created that IMHO just makes the time with the girl mechanical. My advice is to pick the girl you like the best outside relying heavily on your sixth sense. If it goes well and you reach that zone, well all the good. If it goes bad well its a 100 lost and you know better next time hopefully. Nothing is 100% I find and nothing ventured nothing gained. I used this way and had not 1 dud session out of 9 hours in the room.i am not by any means an expert but I think this is the best advice to newcomers to the scene and that is not to worry and just go with the flow. half an hour is not enough for any girl to get into it in my opinion.

[Arctic]

You nailed it. The other factor is that just staying in Europe for 30-90 days is appealing to many Americans. If top providers can take a three month vacation and pick up a little spending money on the side by working a few hours, they'll do it. Another thing is that some of them just fucking love Europeans and there aren't enough Europeans here for them to fuck.I love it when GUYS try to think like hookers. It's funny as hell.

A one hour session in OASE gets a girl 100 Euro (about $130 US. Depending on the exchange rate).

A one hour session for an American hooker in the USA who is even remotely as beautiful as most of the FKK girls makes around $300 here in the states - OR MORE.

OVER TWICE AS MUCH.

LOL. Yeah. I can see why a girl would be tripping all over herself to take a 50% cut in pay and go to Germany to work in the FKK's!

[UltraHappy]

I love it when GUYS try to think like hookers. It's funny as hell.

A one hour session in OASE gets a girl 100 Euro (about $130 US. Depending on the exchange rate).

A one hour session for an American hooker in the USA who is even remotely as beautiful as most of the FKK girls makes around $300 here in the states. OR MORE.

OVER TWICE AS MUCH.

LOL. Yeah. I can see why a girl would be tripping all over herself to take a 50% cut in pay and go to Germany to work in the FKK's!I know girls who left Hessen (100 Euros / hr) to work in NRW clubs for 75 Euros / hr. I asked them why in the world would they work for less when they make more in Hessen? They explained to me that they actually make more in NRW than they were making in Hessen on account of more customers. At the time, the lower prices attracted more men when they were struggling to find clients down in Hessen at the higher prices.

For that matter, why do any girls work in NRW when the per hour prices are higher in Hessen? (/rhetorical question)

Besides that, we already covered the fact that there are distinct disadvantages to practicing this profession in a jurisdiction where it is *legal.

In any case, as Capt Dan pointed out, this is all fantasy talk as American girls generally have no authorization to work in Europe.

[Horny Harry]

Folks! I will have the opportunity to make a trip to Frankfurt this weekend and I'll be able to spend some time in either Sharks or World.

Any recommendations, especially with the holiday season in mind and the selection of girls? I'm quite picky when it comes to girls.

Additionally I want to have sex in a public area, it's a bit of an unfulfilled phantasy. Sharks looks quite suitable for that, many cosy semi-public sitting areas, but the pics on the World website are not very clear as far as a Kino area and lounge area.

Thanks for your help!

[Banana Boi]

Folks! I will have the opportunity to make a trip to Frankfurt this weekend and I'll be able to spend some time in either Sharks or World.

Any recommendations, especially with the holiday season in mind and the selection of girls? I'm quite picky when it comes to girls.

Additionally I want to have sex in a public area, it's a bit of an unfulfilled phantasy.So HB doesn't have to post this again."Sharks pays the girls 1. 200€ if they stay from 20. 12. Until 06. 01. So Sharks should have a decent line-up."

This will likely mean there will be more girls at Sharks than at World, which is likely the case at any time to begin with. I personally find the top girls at Sharks more to my taste than World but there are World fans that will state otherwise.

If you have the entire weekend you can do World Friday and Sharks Saturday. You can also take advantage of the Sharks 40€ entry special before 2 pm on Sundays.

As for public sex, most of the hot ones in the big FKK's likely won't do it. It doesn't mean it's not possible if you're willing to settle on something less stellar. Only an observation on my part rather than me asking. You may have better luck with this at the smaller clubs or return in the Summer when girls will have public sex with you outside.

[The Cane]

They explained to me that they actually make more in NRW than they were making in Hessen on account of more customers. At the time, the lower prices attracted more men when they were struggling to find clients down in Hessen at the higher prices.

Besides that, we already covered the fact that there are distinct disadvantages to practicing this profession in a jurisdiction where it is illegal.But not every girl in the USA is making $300 per hour turning tricks! That's a lot of money to pay, and most men are not going to pay it for the typical weak "half and half" services available in the USA. There are plenty of attractive girls who receive in the $100 to $150 dollar range for their services. And I mean a lot. There's no shortage of USA girls in this price range at all. You can go lower too, but then you're often dealing with "stank tutes", which I don't do. So now, who is it who's trying to think like a tute? Rhetorical question only.

[Horny Harry]

Thanks for the info BB!

Looks like I'll have to give Sharks a try then, probably tonight.

I'm quite new to this whole FKK business so I'll give it a try. So far I've only gone to Samya, but that was as it turned out on the wrong day of the week / year (last Monday) and I was a bit disappointed. There was nobody in the Kino area, but judging by the roles of paper towels there, I assumed that quite a bit of sex also takes place in the Kino areas of FKK clubs in general.

I did manage to read through quite a bit, but there are literally hundreds of pages on Giessen, Sharks, Oase and general info. It probably takes a while to get used to, but I find it a bit confusing that you have to read everything bottom up, instead of the normal way of top to bottom.

[Ilink]

In any case, as Capt Dan pointed out, this is all fantasy talk as American girls generally have no authorization to work in Europe.It is possible for some by obtaining passport through countries where parents or even grand parents were citizens of eg Italy, Ireland. Given the number of such descendants in USA could generate a sizeable number.

[ShoesAndSocks]

I was a bit disappointed. There was nobody in the Kino areaI've found that guys in general are reluctant to be the first one to start a session in public areas, but once someone does others join in. And, the other ladies look for guys watching as they can easily be turned into clients.

So, rather than waiting in vain for something to happen, be the one to start making it happen!

[Horny Harry]

I've found that guys in general are reluctant to be the first one to start a session in public areas, but once someone does others join in. And, the other ladies look for guys watching as they can easily be turned into clients.

So, rather than waiting in vain for something to happen, be the one to start making it happen!I had a great time in Sharks yesterday! I don't know if yesterday's line up is representative of the usual, but I saw many sexy ladies. In the beginning I had a problem controlling my hard-on underneath my bathrobe, as I was soooo horny, hehehe! (hence my nickname!)

Had sex with one girl in the Kino, but as Banana Boi said, most only wanted to go to the rooms. A bit strange this prudish attitude towards public sex, especially in an FKK club where girls are walking around totally naked, but hey I guess that's the way it is! .

Can't wait for summer to come, so at least I can get some action outside in the garden.

[Hessen Bub]

I had a great time in Sharks yesterday! I don't know if yesterday's line up is representative of the usual,Yep, line-up was good yesterday. The clubs strategy to pay the girls to be present over Christmas and new year seems to pay off.

HB

[Maxime]

I had a great time in Sharks yesterday! I don't know if yesterday's line up is representative of the usual, but I saw many sexy ladies. In the beginning I had a problem controlling my hard-on underneath my bathrobe, as I was soooo horny, hehehe! (hence my nickname!)

Had sex with one girl in the Kino, but as Banana Boi said, most only wanted to go to the rooms. A bit strange this prudish attitude towards public sex, especially in an FKK club where girls are walking around totally naked, but hey I guess that's the way it is! .

Can't wait for summer to come, so at least I can get some action outside in the garden.Sharks is a great club, with good girls, but, as in most clubs in Hessen, not much public sex or pre-sales (management even tightened the rul to public kissing and blow jobs. Why, nobody understands, wince this is THE way to attract men and have more sessions and so more money for the girls.). Oase was famous for this, but since begin this year, not so much anymore (still more then most other places in Hessen).

In NRW much more places where you can get this. Not Samya (which you visited) which has beautiful girls, but no.re-sales at all (and even lack of real good service of many of the girls). Best you go to visit some of the smaller service clubs in NRW, like Luder Lounge, Club Neby, Freude, Panthera and of course Bernds, where public kissing and blowjob is common and even public sex is not rare.

[Hessen Bub]

I have had public BJ at Sharks, in the summer outside in the garden. 30min BJ with CIM. Also inside on the sofa close to the sauna area. And upstairs on one of the loungers. But I have to admit, it is rare and getting rarer, don't know why. Had full sex in the cinema.

World. Very rare to find public sex, had BJ downstairs on the loungers next to the pool, on the sofas downstairs, at the pool, on one of the chairs next to the men's bathroom upstairs. Had full sex in the cinema.

Oase. BJ on the sofa, at the bar, in the garden, sex in the garden on one of the "Strandkörbe" years ago, also BJ with CIM and full sex in the cinema, on the sofas and the beds in front of the screen.

Palace. BJ on the sofas, on the stairs to the bar (old setup) , BJ and full sex in the relax area and in the cinema.

Mainhattan. BJ and full sex in the cinema. No public action anywhere else.

Sunken Atlantis. It was almost impossible to go to the room without having a piblic BJ on a sofa. Couples fucking everywhere, at / behind the bar, the open bed next to the pool.

It's not only the guys getting more prude (too many tourists, sorry guys and visiting a club is getting less sex orientated) , it's also the girls who won't give you public action, they are ashamed. It's a shame. LOL.

HB

[ShoesAndSocks]

I had a great time in Sharks yesterday!

Can't wait for summer to come, so at least I can get some action outside in the garden.Nice to hear that.

If public sex is really important to you (as it is to me) , I'd suggest the Globe in Zurich. I visited in summer 2013 and found its reputation for public sex is very well deserved. No problem finding girls up for it.

And, if you're there during June-July 2014 I can assure you there will be at least one little Aussie getting into it again! Also plan to try the NRW for the first time.

[Howie]

I'd suggest the Globe in Zurich. I visited in summer 2013 and found its reputation for public sex is very well deserved. No problem finding girls up for it.Just got back from Globe and yep there is public sex available, for example:

- a newbie chap (Robert Pattinson lookalike) went all out fucking a dark skinned girl (think it may be Tina) on one of the back couches next to the bar. He looked very pleased and proud after the deed. All eyes were watching. Good show.

- an Omar Galanti (porn actor) lookalike chap was rimming Elena at the bar, spreading her butt cheeks wide in doggie for all to see. Crazy couple.

- also can't fault the lesbo shows that they provide. Tonight five girls on stage: Aida, Jessy, Alessia, Didi and one other. Very explicit licking and fucking. Great close up views of their pussy and ass. Didi outdid herself by jumping onto the bar with one of the girls and they dildoed themselves silly with a double headed dildo on the bar, Coyote ugly style.

Oh and I had a pretty good fuck too with Jolie tonight. Wanted to also check out Sidney based on a recommendation but she was busy all day.

In summary, although an average line up it was a wicked night nonetheless.

Howie

[Syzygies]

had sex with one girl in the kino, but as banana boi said, most only wanted to go to the rooms. a bit strange this prudish attitude towards public sex, especially in an fkk club where girls are walking around totally naked, but hey i guess that's the way it is! .sharks is probably having the least public sex due to infrequently having a real rooms shortage.

if you want public sex, pick another club on a busy night that has a shortage of rooms. no problem at world or oase etc. to find girls willing to have full sex in the cinema to avoid waiting for a room. i have used world cinema during party nights in particular.

despite it being a bit dark, i have found there are plenty of guys (mackintosh brigade) that want to watch and possibly play with themselves in world cinema. i don't watch them however as might be ugly and spoil my mood, so i need to just focus on the girl. i am not an exhibitionist so no real need for onlookers. i have noticed that other fuckers in cinema fuck very differently, mostly going at high speed for short durations. mine must be like a slow motion fuck.

[Hessen Bub]

Didi. She's a great performer and still beautiful. She was a stunner 3 years ago, those boobs were perfect. A 12 on a scale from 1 to 10.

Oh yes, I had public sex at Globe. With Nico. On one of those double sofas next to the bar, one couple on either side. Good fuck she was.

http://club-globe.ch/main/superstars/detail.php?id=1250

HB

[Party001]

Hi BMs,

I am planning a trip in April / May, but my dates are flexible from April to June.

Given that clubs have 50-70% Romanian girls, will the Romanian Orthodox Easter effect the quality and talent in the clubs?

Cheers,

Party001

[Party001]

Hi BMs,

I am planning to visit clubs in:

- Frankfurt (World, Oase, Sharks, Manhattan)

- Dusseldorf (Acapulco, Dolce Vita, GT, Samya, Villa Vertigo, Planet Happy Garden)

Given the clubs have 50-70% Romanian girls, will the Romanian Orthodox Easter effect the quality / quantity / talent in the clubs?

Cheers,

Party001

[Free Dude]

Hi BMs,

I am planning a trip in April / May, but my dates are flexible from April to June.

Given that clubs have 50-70% Romanian girls, will the Romanian Orthodox Easter effect the quality and talent in the clubs?

Cheers,

Party001Yes, any regular club goer can be identified by their smartphone calander being set on the orthodox calander. Joking aside, Romanians follow the orthodox calender and Easter is a bigger deal there than in Western Europe. Many punters avoid clubbing in this week because of the girls that are absent (similar to Christmas). I believe this year both Easters are around the same time.

[Banana Boi]

Orthodox Easter in Romania falls on April 20 and April 21 this year. Always good to check a calendar like this one to see when Orthodox Easter falls each year since it can vary from around April 8 to May 8.

http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/romania/2014

The lineup can be fairly depleted for 2 weeks pre and post Orthodox Easter, not dissimilar to Christmas.

GT will be relatively unaffected by Orthodox Easter.

[Party001]

Yes, any regular club goer can be identified by their smartphone calander being set on the orthodox calander.LOL that's funny yet true at same time.

Rom Orthodox Easter is April 21 2014. Given how religious they can be, will the girls observe abstinence for 40 days prior as well?

[Party001]

Orthodox Easter in Romania falls on April 20 and April 21 this year. Always good to check a calendar like this one to see when Orthodox Easter falls each year since it can vary from around April 8 to May 8.

http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/romania/2014

The lineup can be fairly depleted for 2 weeks pre and post Orthodox Easter, not dissimilar to Christmas.

GT will be relatively unaffected by Orthodox Easter.Ok so effective FKK touring is pretty much out for 4 weeks (7thApril to 5thMay. 2 weeks either side of Orth'Easter)

Thanks BB, FD.

Party001

[Banana Boi]

Ok so effective FKK touring is pretty much out for 4 weeks (7thApril to 5thMay. 2 weeks either side of Orth'Easter)The clubs aren't terrible it's just if you're flexible you may as well book when you have the biggest chance of success. For your time period look at mid to late-May and you'll have nice weather as well which is always a plus.

[Dirk67]

The clubs aren't terrible it's just if you're flexible you may as well book when you have the biggest chance of success. For your time period look at mid to late-May and you'll have nice weather as well which is always a plus.If we'll be in the clubs (Frankfurt, Munich etc) , first week of April should be ok (about 12 days before Orthodox Easter)?

[Party001]

The clubs aren't terrible it's just if you're flexible you may as well book when you have the biggest chance of success. For your time period look at mid to late-May and you'll have nice weather as well which is always a plus.Is the month of March (I'm not fussed with weather) also suitable wrt numbers / talent? If I come March then I will also manage a June / July summer holiday.

I was in Oase, World, Sharks for 10 days in June 2013. Had a blast!

[Banana Boi]

I'm going to defer my answer to guys like HB, FD, Syzy, etc. Who live in Germany who have many more years experience in FKK's than I do.

Imo just avoid 2 weeks before and after Christmas and Orthodox Easter and you should be good to go. Summer months like July and August may be a bit slower as well. GT is pretty much unaffected by any holidays or time of year.

[IGuyTdh]

Friends,

This will be my first trip.

I am thinking of visiting Fankfurt area from Jan 16-26. How about the quality and quantity of girls at that time?

And am thinking of visiting Oase, Palace, World and Sharks (are these the best of the lot)?

Thanks for all the advice.

[Capt Dan]

I'm going to defer my answer to guys like HB, FD, Syzy, etc. Who live in Germany who have many more years experience in FKK's than I do.

Imo just avoid 2 weeks before and after Christmas and Orthodox Easter and you should be good to go. Summer months like July and August may be a bit slower as well. GT is pretty much unaffected by any holidays or time of year.Completely agree. This is very good advice.

[KumarCool]

Hi All,

I am a monger from India and travelling to Paris. Heard lot about FKK Clubs, graving to experience once.

Please guide me the nearest or easiest FKK to visit from paris. Don't mind travelling 2-3 hours for that. I don't have a car, would be using public transport & taxi. It would be grateful, if someone suggest me how to reach the club using train, tram bus or taxi. My last option is to travel to frankfurt and visit oase or mainhattan

[CaptCabins]

Hi All,

I am a monger from India and travelling to Paris. Heard lot about FKK Clubs, graving to experience once.

Please guide me the nearest or easiest FKK to visit from paris. Don't mind travelling 2-3 hours for that. I don't have a car, would be using public transport & taxi. It would be grateful, if someone suggest me how to reach the club using train, tram bus or taxi. My last option is to travel to frankfurt and visit oase or mainhattanMost of my Indian friends prefer fkk palace.

Fkk oase is racist as many Romanian there and they see us indians like they see gypsies. Most girl will charge you like Palace girls but they are uglies. In Palace you get hollywood blondess and fkk Oase you get typical Romanian girls same price as Palace now. Things have changed in Oase and Sharks.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.

[Eeyore]

Definitely part of the picture. Parents who moved in the previous generation from Italy and Ireland are not so common among US providers, but I've met women who have at least one parent from the UK, Poland and Germany-both West and East. As one might expect, the ones with a German parent are the most curious, and they want a chance to practice their German as well.

[Solo Traveler]

Most girl will charge you like Palace girls but they are uglies.CaptCabins,

Do you mean that the girls make their own prices when facing non-whites customers?

This is serous problem, did you ever complain this to the front desk? Can you reveal more details?

Actually, your statement includes two problem.

1. Girls making their own prices.

The working girls should not make their own price, because the prices and the rules are already there.

50 EUR standard service means "30 minutes, BBBJ+covered sex in multiple position+kissing+DATY"

CIM is extra 50 EUR.

Anal is extra 100 EUR.

2. Girls being racist.

This should not happen at all especially in a country like Germany.

Besides, the girls only want the customers' Euro banknotes. Why do they care about the customers' skin color?

If a girl refuse to have sex with a customer because his dick is too big or he is drunk or he smells bad, then it is understandable.

But refuse a customer just because of his skin color? That's unacceptable!

[Hessen Bub]

Things have changed in Oase and Sharks.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.Things have changed at Oase for worse and at Sharks for better as Sharks now has a strong and reliable line-up and consistent service levels. So you really think Romanians are more racist than German or Bulgarian or Hungarian girls? Most of the girls don't care about your nationality / origin, they prefer clean respectful clients.

HB

[ShoesAndSocks]

Please guide me the nearest or easiest FKK to visit from paris. Don't mind travelling 2-3 hours for that. I don't have a car, would be using public transport & taxi. It would be grateful, if someone suggest me how to reach the club using train, tram bus or taxi.I understand the town of Saarbrucken on the French / German border is the closest destination, and there was mention here recently that the Palace owners were opening up a mega-FKK there in early 2014.
I have not been there, but the train from Paris to Saarbrucken would take over 4 hours, so eight hours of travel in one day wouldn't leave much time for FKK-ing.

So, a trip to Frankfurt (or NRW) may be your best option. You can get some pretty low-priced return flights within Europe.

[TankTank123]

I have not been there, but the train from Paris to Saarbrucken would take over 4 hours, so eight hours of travel in one day wouldn't leave much time for FKK-ing.

So, a trip to Frankfurt (or NRW) may be your best option. You can get some pretty low-priced return flights within Europe.A few months ago, I took a TGV from Paris to Frankfurt. Journey took slightly less than 4 hours and cost about €60, booked through Internet. I departed from Paris around 9 am and was in Oase at around 1. 30 pm. I concluded that the TGV was faster than going to airport, waiting for flight, etc.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

2. Girls being racist.

This should not happen at all especially in a country like Germany.

Besides, the girls only want the customers' Euro banknotes. Why do they care about the customers' skin color?

If a girl refuse to have sex with a customer because his dick is too big or he is drunk or he smells bad, then it is understandable.

But refuse a customer just because of his skin color? That's unacceptable!Have we become so politically correct that a girl can't even decide who gets to stick his dick into her? The girls at FKKs are not public utilities who have to provide service to whomever wants to pay for it. They have the right to decline anyone for any reason, including not liking their skin color, just as customers can choose not to session with girls whose skin color they don't like.

[The Cane]

In the end, I have to agree with what you said. But you know, I have to say it's easy for people who will never face a particular type of discrimination to take a stance like the one you project. But, as soon as somebody won't fuck you because of some intrinsic quality that you can't "hide", well then all of a sudden you understand exactly where the other person is coming from. Now you get it because now it's happening to you! You're "in their skin" so to speak. The example that I like to use is the monger here (don't remember who) who was complaining because a tute rejected his business due to his age. He was too old for her. Now I bet he gets it! How discrimination makes another person feel. Because, it was now happening to him. Not because of his race. But because of his age. Something he could not change or alter if his very life depended upon it.

In the end, I agree with you 100 percent on this. The only thing I would add is that one would hope that a club would strive to not promote an atmosphere of a "hostile environment" where certain types of people don't feel welcome. Yes, a girl should have the option to accept or reject business from whoever she wants to. But, if you have an environment where all of those independent decisions add up to what looks like systemic discrimination and prejudice, whatever kind of discrimination or prejudice that might be, then I think that's a problem. The only place in Germany where I have been that has that kind of negative aura is Golden Time (at least as was felt personally by me). And I say that as somebody who got in and fucked four girls there! The girls at Palace don't have to fuck whoever wants them. Same at Sharks, World, and Oase. Mainhattan. Artemis. Wherever. And yet, none of those establishments have that same vibe that's found at GT. Why?

It's hard to say, but in the end I think it all comes down to management's screening and selection process, and the attitudes from the girls that management is willing to accept. GT is known for this (racial discrimination) , and some girls go there to work precisely because of that. So, you get this "syndicate" of girls there who are going to discriminate based on race, the management knows it, and they allow the practice to exist. The result is an overall hostile environment for certain types. It's been suggested here that there exists a hostile environment towards Indians at Oase from among the Romanian girls. I wouldn't doubt it for a minute. I'm not Indian, so it hasn't happened to me. But, I'm not so ignorant as to suggest that it doesn't exist (discrimination towards Indians) just because it doesn't happen to me. That goes to the very definition of what discrimination is! That it's happening to some people while not to others.

These are private clubs, so the only thing you can really do is just not frequent places where you find that these hostile environments exist. I'm glad that among the big major clubs, GT is the only place I've been to where I've witnessed such a hostile environment. And I got in, which was ultimately a part of the problem LOL!

[IGuyTdh]

To the senior members,

This will my first trip to FRA. I will be there for about 10 days. I am staying near the main Hbf. I can travel if required. I have gone through various posts:

1. Is Oase, World, Sharks the must do places? Is Palace worth it for the sake of convenience in terms of it being very close to Hbf.

2. Is any one of the above a preferred venue in terms of weekday vs weekend?

3. Which time frame is the best? Day? Evening or Late night? (Basically is it worth missing the last train back to Hbf if I go to the suburban clubs?

4. Finally if it not too much trouble, can you point out the most popular girls in each of these clubs.

Thanks in advance.

[Tjohoo]

Fkk oase is racist as many Romanian there and they see us indians like they see gypsies.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.I see that there seems to racism both here and there in this world! In my opinion your statements could probably count as racism as well.

T

[Satrai]

Most of my Indian friends prefer fkk palace.

Fkk oase is racist as many Romanian there and they see us indians like they see gypsies. Most girl will charge you like Palace girls but they are uglies. In Palace you get hollywood blondess and fkk Oase you get typical Romanian girls same price as Palace now. Things have changed in Oase and Sharks.

Avoid fkk with lots of Romanians if you are Indian as they don't like gypsies. Racist working girls.I did not had this problem with Rumanian gals in Palace / Oase / Sharks. Beside this, some of those (darker type) Rumanian gals also look like Indians or gypsies, LOL!

BTW: did any bro ever meet a real Indian gal in a FKK / sauna-club?

[The Cane]

To the senior members,

This will my first trip to FRA. I will be there for about 10 days. I am staying near the main Hbf. I can travel if required. I have gone through various posts:

1. Is Oase, World, Sharks the must do places? Is Palace worth it for the sake of convenience in terms of it being very close to Hbf.

2. Is any one of the above a preferred venue in terms of weekday vs weekend?

3. Which time frame is the best? Day? Evening or Late night? (Basically is it worth missing the last train back to Hbf if I go to the suburban clubs?

4. Finally if it not too much trouble, can you point out the most popular girls in each of these clubs.

Thanks in advance.IGuyTdh dude RTFF why don't you LOL!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1515004]In the end, I have to agree with what you said. But you know, I have to say it's easy for people who will never face a particular type of discrimination to take a stance like the one you project. But, as soon as somebody won't fuck you because of some intrinsic quality that you can't "hide", well then all of a sudden you understand exactly where the other person is coming from. Now you get it because now it's happening to you! You're "in their skin" so to speak. The example that I like to use is the monger here (don't remember who) who was complaining because a tute rejected his business due to his age. He was too old for her. Now I bet he gets it! How discrimination makes another person feel. Because, it was now happening to him. Not because of his race. But because of his age. Something he could not change or alter if his very life depended upon it. QUOTE]

As a white guy in Tokyo, I have experienced institutional racism by being turned away at the door when trying to get in to blowjob bars and other sex establishments. Obviously I didn't like it or think it was fair but I just had to find the few places that do accept whites, as I cannot change the system.

I am also well into the age discrimination category but have never been openly refused because of my age, as I never ask unless the girl has indicted by word or action that she is interested in sessioning with me. If the girl is cold, unresponsive, or uninterested, why would you want to go with her and ask her to do so, either forcing her to refuse you directly or, even worse, going with you and giving you a lousy, cold, dead fish experience? Choose someone who wants your money enough to over-ride whatever prejudices she has.

(I must confess to a certain inconsistency about this. On one occasion, at the World Fasching party several years ago, I saw this absolutely gorgeous blonde sitting alone. I went up to her and said hello. She said she didn't speak English and turned away. I tried some more conversational gambits with equally poor results. Since she probably could have charged $500 / hour in the US, I decided I wasn't going to lose the chance to fuck her for 50 Euros, no matter how cold she was, and so I finally just asked her if she would go to the room with me and, to my surprise, she said yes. To my astonishment, she was GFE and within 5 minutes I told her I wanted to extend to an hour. It was a great session. Unfortunately, I never saw her again. Another occasion was in 2012 with Aida, a good-looking blonde, at Acapulco, who was actually somewhat hostile during our conversation because I had told her that I had come to Germany to fuck. After getting her off with DATY, she warmed up and it turned out to be a great session. Unfortunately when I saw her again in2013, she was cold and indifferent again, so I ignored her from then on. My friend did go with her and told me he had a great session and she couldn't get enough of him when in the room. She then completely ignored him the rest of the evening.)

[PussyLiccker]

Another occasion was in 2012 with Aida, a good-looking blonde, at Acapulco, who was actually somewhat hostile during our conversation because I had told her that I had come to Germany to fuck. After getting her off with DATY, she warmed up and it turned out to be a great session. Unfortunately when I saw her again in2013, she was cold and indifferent again, so I ignored her from then on. My friend did go with her and told me he had a great session and she couldn't get enough of him when in the room. She then completely ignored him the rest of the evening.)This could be a misconception. For first timers, the perception will throw them off there. And given it was back in 2012, the club girls were more restricted in what they can do. Until recently, girls weren't allowed to look at a guy in the eyes. There are CCTV cameras in the ceiling, and from what I know, they are being monitored. Not sure how true that is, but it does make sense because these are Romanian girls we are talkin about here. If you go to GT, the Romanian side is where girls can easily approach the guys and flirt with them. At Sayma, predominatly Romanian, girls do more than flirt there, they invite you to grind against them while they dance, and play with you on the couch.

I'm not a fan of the atmosphere of ACA, and the appearance can fool punters that these girls are not service oriented. Once you get in the room, it's something else. I have had high percentage service rate here compare to other clubs, but it's a club to avoid at certain periods when the club is desolate of girls.

All this explains their behavior outside the room. What I like to understand is the reason behind the rules. Anybody know?

[PussyLiccker]

Hi folks, I'm planning to head to GT in Vienna to check out the girls there, and had several questions.

1. What is the breakdown of the ethnicity of the girls? Should I expect more diversity than in German clubs? How is the line-up compared to GT Germany?

2. What is the number of girls during the beginning of the week and on the weekends?

3. What time of year are most girls there?

4. How is the services? What percentage of the girls DFK? Is DFK common compared to Germany FKK or is it non-existent? Do girls charge extra for kissing?

[The Cane]

I must confess to a certain inconsistency about this. On one occasion, at the World Fasching party several years ago, I saw this absolutely gorgeous blonde sitting alone. I went up to her and said hello. She said she didn't speak English and turned away. I tried some more conversational gambits with equally poor results. Since she probably could have charged $500 / hour in the US, I decided I wasn't going to lose the chance to fuck her for 50 Euros, no matter how cold she was, and so I finally just asked her if she would go to the room with me and, to my surprise, she said yes. To my astonishment, she was GFE and within 5 minutes I told her I wanted to extend to an hour. It was a great session. Unfortunately, I never saw her again. Another occasion was in 2012 with Aida, a good-looking blonde, at Acapulco, who was actually somewhat hostile during our conversation because I had told her that I had come to Germany to fuck. After getting her off with DATY, she warmed up and it turned out to be a great session. Unfortunately when I saw her again in2013, she was cold and indifferent again, so I ignored her from then on. My friend did go with her and told me he had a great session and she couldn't get enough of him when in the room. She then completely ignored him the rest of the evening.Sounds like some kind of defense mechanism she was using. Not wanting to appear attached to or in need of anything or anybody. Show no vulnerability. Her "game face" if you will. Too bad it wasn't more pleasant and inviting game face.

[Solo Traveler]

BTW: did any bro ever meet a real Indian gal in a FKK / sauna-club?I saw a girl with a red dot on her forehead when I was in FKK Sharks on November 2013.

I didn't make any contact with her, so I am not sure about her nationality or ethnicity.

[PussyLiccker]

For those that either live in Germany or has been going to Germany for several years, I have a question regarding the times when girls tend to work. Well, I already know the popular times that Romanians take off is around Easter and Holidays. Also the summer would be time when some Romanians would go back home. My experience is the October to early December is when ACA has maximum line-up and what a line-up it is. How about Samya, how does Samya get affected by times? Is it the same as ACA?

In general, which times during the year, are there maximum line-up? (that includes, Hessen, NRW, and Berlin)

[PussyLiccker]

This obviously is not Palace as we all know. For me, it used to be Oase that I've witnessed hard working girls, but apparently that has changed recently. Based on my recent trips, I feel that Samya, Mondia, and ACA (when there is maximum line-up) has some of the most hard working Romanians I've ever met. I know there are some others, but the girls are not so pretty, never tried them because of this reason. I much prefer clubs with high service level girls that has are good looking since girls that look like dogs don't arouse me. Any favorites you guys think is a go to club with girls that fills the need of high demanding customers?

By high demand, I mean a customer that wants girls to DFK, GFE or PSE, and let them finger them everywhere, and pretty much nonrestrictive to customer's demands.

[Free Dude]

This obviously is not Palace as we all know. For me, it used to be Oase that I've witnessed hard working girls, but apparently that has changed recently. Based on my recent trips, I feel that Samya, Mondia, and ACA (when there is maximum line-up) has some of the most hard working Romanians I've ever met. I know there are some others, but the girls are not so pretty, never tried them because of this reason. I much prefer clubs with high service level girls that has are good looking since girls that look like dogs don't arouse me. Any favorites you guys think is a go to club with girls that fills the need of high demanding customers?

By high demand, I mean a customer that wants girls to DFK, GFE or PSE, and let them finger them everywhere, and pretty much nonrestrictive to customer's demands.Honestly, average service levels in the 3 clubs you mention are just about the lowest you can find. Half the girls in Samya don't kiss and Mondial and Acapulco are largely 'turkenpuffs', named because of the large amount of Turkish visitors, which are known to have fairly low session requirements. Or better said, they are known to come for fucking and don't feel the need for DFK or GFE (all generalizations of course). Whether this has anything to do with 'working hard' might well be a different discussion.

Clubs with (almost) uniformily good service: Bernds, Babylon, Freude, Luderlounge, Neby, Panthera, Park sauna Rezidenz (although it is getting less). In my experience the RTC's provide very good service as well (Dietzenbach, Arabella, Villa Venus, Grimberg). Note that the looks in these clubs might well be a bit less than you experience in Aca, GT, LR etc.

[McAdonis]

Not arguing what you said, but I would assume that the 'turkenpuffs' do have one good thing going for them: they probably don't produce "diva" girls, such as the ones you may find at GT. Also from my experiences in Hessen, it seems like most girls don't want to deal with Turkish customers. From what I hear, the younger ones especially like rough sex. More recuperation time is required from such poundings. And from watching interactions at the money lockers, I notice that Turkish are more likely to underpay for services, resulting in the girl storming off visibly upset. So if the girl is willing to deal with a Turkish customer, by definition she is not a diva.


Honestly, average service levels in the 3 clubs you mention are just about the lowest you can find. Half the girls in Samya don't kiss and Mondial and Acapulco are largely 'turkenpuffs', named because of the large amount of Turkish visitors, which are known to have fairly low session requirements. Or better said, they are known to come for fucking and don't feel the need for DFK or GFE (all generalizations of course). Whether this has anything to do with 'working hard' might well be a different discussion.

Clubs with (almost) uniformily good service: Bernds, Babylon, Freude, Luderlounge, Neby, Panthera, Park sauna Rezidenz (although it is getting less). In my experience the RTC's provide very good service as well (Dietzenbach, Arabella, Villa Venus, Grimberg). Note that the looks in these clubs might well be a bit less than you experience in Aca, GT, LR etc.

[McAdonis]

In general, which times during the year, are there maximum line-up? (that includes, Hessen, NRW, and Berlin)Just look at the Messe calendar and come a week prior when the hotel prices are reasonable. Alternatively, you could come a week after the Messe but the girls may no longer be fresh. The girls are also interested in when the men will be there. The girls are well aware of the schedules of the Messe calendar as they will often be the ones to remind me. They will often shift their vacation schedules to times when they don't think they will make money. These girls will often know the German vacation schedule as well. I know this because two-thirds of the girls I see are girls that I've previously sessioned, so I often ask them if they have any planned upcoming vacations. Girls will tell me,"I probably won't work much next month, because it is German holiday and many married men will be too busy vacationing with their families and not come to the club"

[Banana Boi]

Clubs with (almost) uniformily good service: Bernds, Babylon, Freude, Luderlounge, Neby, Panthera, Park sauna Rezidenz (although it is getting less). In my experience the RTC's provide very good service as well (Dietzenbach, Arabella, Villa Venus, Grimberg).Other than PSR which has some ok girls at night, out of all the other clubs which ones have the best looking girls? Which club has the most girls under 25?

[PussyLiccker]

did any bro ever meet a real Indian gal in a FKK / sauna-club?Magnum, there is a cute faced Indian girl there (she's been there awhile) , but I'm afraid she is chunky.

[Free Dude]

Not arguing what you said, but I would assume that the 'turkenpuffs' do have one good thing going for them: they probably don't produce "diva" girls, such as the ones you may find at GT. Also from my experiences in Hessen, it seems like most girls don't want to deal with Turkish customers. From what I hear, the younger ones especially like rough sex. More recuperation time is required from such poundings. And from watching interactions at the money lockers, I notice that Turkish are more likely to underpay for services, resulting in the girl storming off visibly upset. So if the girl is willing to deal with a Turkish customer, by definition she is not a diva.There's two sides to it. Many girls like young Turkish guys (closer to the boys back home maybe?) and many girls don't want to kiss, have long boring presales, have to lick balls, let a guy lick her pussy, etc. In short, for many of the girls in Turkenpuffs they like the sex they need to provide better than in 'regular' clubs. Of course, there are plenty of girls that don't like to be fucked hard. You'll probably have Diva's everywhere, even in the RTC's; the least glamorous and most down to earth clubs, you have girls like Michaela (Dietzenbach) and Raissa (Arabella). Girls that are just a step above the others in looks, and they know it.


Other than PSR which has some ok girls at night, out of all the other clubs which ones have the best looking girls? Which club has the most girls under 25?Hmm depends, in all of these clubs (except Bernds) the large majority is in their twenties or teens. Maybe the average is 24 rather than 21. At the moment it is quiet everywhere, but you'll find good looking girls in each of the clubs. Luderlounge has a fairly big Polish / Russian contingent, Neby is very Rumanian-Bulgarian oriented. Freude is the biggest, but they are closing for a few months on the 31 of January; so I'm not sure girls will bother coming back from holiday. I would say you'll find a few girls to your liking in all of the clubs, but none of them really has dozens of 'pretty girls'.

[IndiMann]

Hi,

I plan to be in NRW region mid January and I have the following options in mind, seek advise of seniors.

Option 1. Two days in Dusseldorf area SAT and SUN, please advise which places are best. I can see reports about Acapulco, Samya, Haus Panthera for service.

Option 2. One day in Dusseldorf at any suggested place.

One day in Frankfurt at Fkk Sharks or any other suggestion.

Have also read some reports about girls going back for new year vacation and coming back by February only?

Considering that I am for combo of good looks and service, and prefer to have good couch time before going to the room, please suggest.

Thanks for help from all.

[Iceberg27]

I have made lots of reading about Fra clubs and as far as I understand all sum of sharks mainhattan and other a few which are more central makes equal to Artemis. I was there last year and most of my sessions was satisfactory. Also the number of girls and talent available was high enough.

I think main reason for going Fra. Is Oase but there are two big disadvantages for this from my perspective;

1) You have to be whole naked there as I have read from their website. Wearing even a little underwear is not allowed.

Is that completely true? Are they so strict about these naked strategy?

2) It's out outside of city so for getting there you have to pay maybe 100 euro taxi fare.

Is there a way to get there with public transportation and to reduce the transportation cost? And how much that amount would be? I don't want to rent a car.

Regards.

[PussyLiccker]

If you are going to Oase only, you are right no need for Car Rental. Car Rental is typically recommended for those that like to hop from club to club or World attenders since its so difficult to go public transport.

Oase is really easy via public transport from FRA Hbf. Get a ticket to Bad Hamburg and stop at Bad or Friedrichesdorf. You will save 5 euros taking taxi from Friedrichesdorf, but night taxi is not guaranteed, but payphone is nearby. It's that easy. If you miss midnight train, the next one starts up around 5 (check the exact times) , it works out timewise after club closes.

The thing is fares add-up if you think about it. it's around 4.25 for train to Oase and another 4.25 back. 10e or 15e there and same for back with taxi that is also required. so max it adds up to 38.5 back and forth. Rent a car at less than 20 euros a day, it's comes out to be even less with fuel. Benefit of car is that you can go and leave anytime. Problem is lodging is very cheap around the Hbf, and parking is non-existant there, so you have to look for outside the city.

That's bs, I don't know who told you about not being able to wear underwear. There is no reason anybody would give a rat's ass if you wear underwear or not. I've seen men wear underwear at many clubs so that they don't have to worry about their dick dangling all around.

[Iceberg27]

If you are going to Oase only, you are right no need for Car Rental. Car Rental is typically recommended for those that like to hop from club to club or World attenders since its so difficult to go public transport.

Oase is really easy via public transport from FRA Hbf. Get a ticket to Bad Hamburg and stop at Bad or Friedrichesdorf. You will save 5 euros taking taxi from Friedrichesdorf, but night taxi is not guaranteed, but payphone is nearby. It's that easy. If you miss midnight train, the next one starts up around 5 (check the exact times) , it works out timewise after club closes.

The thing is fares add-up if you think about it. It's around 4. 25 for train to Oase and another 4. 25 back. 10e or 15e there and same for back with taxi that is also required. So max it adds up to 38. 5 back and forth. Rent a car at less than 20 euros a day, it's comes out to be even less with fuel. Benefit of car is that you can go and leave anytime. Problem is lodging is very cheap around the Hbf, and parking is non-existant there, so you have to look for outside the city.

That's bs, I don't know who told you about not being able to wear underwear. There is no reason anybody would give a rat's ass if you wear underwear or not. I've seen men wear underwear at many clubs so that they don't have to worry about their dick dangling all around.Thanks for the info Pussylicker. I didn't know car rental is such cheap there. So with car rental reaching Oase isn't a problem.

I have read in Oase website Faq leaving your clothes on isn't allowed. It's also common in Artemis but you can have the rob on so it's ok for me.

Is it possible that you give some more detailed info about wearing policy in Fra clubs?

I consider to make a clubs tour. As far as I know getting NRW is just 1 and a half hour from Fra. So for one week, it's possible to visit at least 7-8 FKK around the region (I mean the popular and worht to visit ones like Oase World Sharks etc.)

[Ableyone]

I have read in Oase website Faq leaving your clothes on isn't allowed. It's also common in Artemis but you can have the rob on so it's ok for me.In Oase its the same as in Artemis you can wear either a robe or towel.

[PussyLiccker]

Thanks for the info Pussylicker. I didn't know car rental is such cheap there. So with car rental reaching Oase isn't a problem.

Is it possible that you give some more detailed info about wearing policy in Fra clubs?My point is that Car Rental is not more expensive than public transport so Car Rental makes sense if you are doing clubs other than Mainhattan, Palace, or Sharks.

My buddy wears underwear (even at Oase) at every club weather towels or robes available at clubs. Nobody cares, so don't worry about it. Just don't walk in wearing your jeans and shirt. Hessen clubs has options of Robes or Towel.

NRW is 2 hours approx, and 2.5 to GT. Koln is 1.5, and you can hit up some good clubs there such as Samya. If you have a week, you have plenty of time, I woul save Friday and Saturdays for FRA clubs. GT has great line-up through the week, avoid Friday and Saturdays. If you go on Thursday or Sunday, Line-up is is good from early in the day which is not like that at FRA clubs. Reason being is that girls show up early since room wait time is short. If you club hop in NRW I'd recommend GT in the afternoons, and Koln clubs such as Samya late at night which gets going in the evening.

It makes most sense to rent a car in your situation if you are doing NRW and FRA.

[Bluat]

Rent a car at less than 20 euros a day, it's comes out to be even less with fuel. Benefit of car is that you can go and leave anytime. Problem is lodging is very cheap around the Hbf, and parking is non-existant there, so you have to look for outside the city.

That's bs, I don't know who told you about not being able to wear underwear. There is no reason anybody would give a rat's ass if you wear underwear or not. I've seen men wear underwear at many clubs so that they don't have to worry about their dick dangling all around.I would just like to add that 20 euro rental is for manual. If you don't know how to drive manual then am automatic is more expensive. In the past two years that I have rented an automatic it has cost me on average 30-40 euros a day and fuel for the weekend can add up to 40 euros if you are club hopping around in NRW which I tend to do. So it's not that cheap, but can be if you learn to use a stick.

[Citizen Kane]

I would just like to add that 20 euro rental is for manual. If you don't know how to drive manual then am automatic is more expensive. In the past two years that I have rented an automatic it has cost me on average 30-40 euros a day and fuel for the weekend can add up to 40 euros if you are club hopping around in NRW which I tend to do. So it's not that cheap, but can be if you learn to use a stick.Remember to factor in hotel parking fees as well. It all adds up.

[Iceberg27]

I would just like to add that 20 euro rental is for manual. If you don't know how to drive manual then am automatic is more expensive. In the past two years that I have rented an automatic it has cost me on average 30-40 euros a day and fuel for the weekend can add up to 40 euros if you are club hopping around in NRW which I tend to do. So it's not that cheap, but can be if you learn to use a stick.

I have always been a manual driver. It's more common here in Turkey.Also i didnt know Vieanna is such close.
2.5 hours with Train or car.Which one is better to go there with a car or train?

Thanks for the info

Regards.

[Dreams]

Hi All,

I am a monger from India and travelling to Paris. Heard lot about FKK Clubs, graving to experience once.

Please guide me the nearest or easiest FKK to visit from paris. Don't mind travelling 2-3 hours for that. I don't have a car, would be using public transport & taxi. It would be grateful, if someone suggest me how to reach the club using train, tram bus or taxi. My last option is to travel to frankfurt and visit oase or mainhattanTake the "thalys", fast train to Cologne. About 3 hours.

[Biggut Eight]

I have not been to an FKK yet.

I have noticed from FKK websites that many of them have stripper poles and stages.

Are there always girls stripping at the clubs? Or only when it is busy or on weekends?

I really enjoy lesbo strip shows and I am wondering if that is a regular part of the FKK experience.

Thank you for your input.

[Maxime]

Honestly, average service levels in the 3 clubs you mention are just about the lowest you can find. Half the girls in Samya don't kiss and Mondial and Acapulco are largely 'turkenpuffs', named because of the large amount of Turkish visitors, which are known to have fairly low session requirements. Or better said, they are known to come for fucking and don't feel the need for DFK or GFE (all generalizations of course). Whether this has anything to do with 'working hard' might well be a different discussion.

Clubs with (almost) uniformily good service: Bernds, Babylon, Freude, Luderlounge, Neby, Panthera, Park sauna Rezidenz (although it is getting less). In my experience the RTC's provide very good service as well (Dietzenbach, Arabella, Villa Venus, Grimberg). Note that the looks in these clubs might well be a bit less than you experience in Aca, GT, LR etc.Completely agree. Chances of a good GFE+PSE session in ACA or Samya is very low, especially with the very good looking girls (and there are numerous in both clubs that look good). The clubs mentioned by Free Dude are much, much more suitable for demanding customers (like FD and myself are). Also in the clubs some beauties, and lesser ones, but also the beautiful ones offer high service!

[ShoesAndSocks]

I have not been to an FKK yet.

I have noticed from FKK websites that many of them have stripper poles and stages.

Are there always girls stripping at the clubs? Or only when it is busy or on weekends?

I really enjoy lesbo strip shows and I am wondering if that is a regular part of the FKK experience.

Thank you for your input.Globe in Zurich has their girls take turns at dancing (not overly exciting IMO) , but on Thu-Sat nights a few of the girls do lesbian strip shows which are pretty full-on (plenty of dildos, sometimes taking it up onto the bar). And, you can always get one of the other girls to "entertain" you while you sit on one of the couches to watch which greatly adds to the experience.
Generally, in FKKs the working ladies can't do a strip since they're naked already. Artemis seems to have a few strippers come in some nights.

[BadinSweet]

Completely agree. Chances of a good GFE+PSE session in ACA or Samya is very low, especially with the very good looking girls (and there are numerous in both clubs that look good). The clubs mentioned by Free Dude are much, much more suitable for demanding customers (like FD and myself are). Also in the clubs some beauties, and lesser ones, but also the beautiful ones offer high service!
Honestly, average service levels in the 3 clubs you mention are just about the lowest you can find. Half the girls in Samya don't kiss and Mondial and Acapulco are largely 'turkenpuffs', named because of the large amount of Turkish visitors, which are known to have fairly low session requirements. Or better said, they are known to come for fucking and don't feel the need for DFK or GFE (all generalizations of course). Whether this has anything to do with 'working hard' might well be a different discussion.

Clubs with (almost) uniformily good service: Bernds, Babylon, Freude, Luderlounge, Neby, Panthera, Park sauna Rezidenz (although it is getting less). In my experience the RTC's provide very good service as well (Dietzenbach, Arabella, Villa Venus, Grimberg). Note that the looks in these clubs might well be a bit less than you experience in Aca, GT, LR etc.OK, I am confused now. I will be in FRA from Feb 9-16. Since it's a messe week I was planning to avoid it by going to NRW area. I was going to go to GT (Sun feb 09) , ACA (Mon) and Samya (Thu). Are you guys saying that the services are not good at those clubs? I always had a great time at Palace so I can handle the shark very well.

Which (big) clubs would you suggest in NRW that have good line up, look-wise (with hot girls, Palace type) and girls who will kiss (don't have to be DFK)? Need to plan this soon so I can start booking hotels and car. If all else fail I will just stay in FRA and stick to what I know best, Palace. Thank you for any inputs.

[Dufey]

Friends,

This will be my first trip.

I am thinking of visiting Fankfurt area from Jan 16-26. How about the quality and quantity of girls at that time?

And am thinking of visiting Oase, Palace, World and Sharks (are these the best of the lot)?

Thanks for all the advice.These dates should be fine. At the back end of your dates is the quite large Conferences in Frankfurt relating to Paperworld, Christmas world and Creativeworld from 24 to 28 Janaury and Trau Dich is running from 18 to 19 January. So you will get lively clubs with men but also a decent turn out of girls having come back to service them.

The clubs in the post Christmas to New Years period has not been too bad from my experience this year. A few girl friend experiences have stayed and some new ones were found from the new girls that have used this time to start the job. I have no idea how but I seem to come across new girls starting in the post Christmas period.

You should be fine at any of Oase, Palace, World and Sharks. I have made visits to them all in the past week. There is something there.

[Capt Dan]

Which (big) clubs would you suggest in NRW that have good line up, look-wise (with hot girls, Palace type) and girls who will kiss (don't have to be DFK)? Need to plan this soon so I can start booking hotels and car. If all else fail I will just stay in FRA and stick to what I know best, Palace. Thank you for any inputs.I would not change my travel arrangements based just on recent reports off this board. Perhaps if bad reports were ongoing over a long period of time and there were few positive reports, I might consider altering my plans. Although some Members do not like the NRW clubs which you intend to visit, these clubs are some of the biggest clubs in that particular area of Germany and there continue to be many positive reports (some recent) about these establishments. Everyones opinion is subjective (including my opinion) to one degree or another and one club may be better than another at a given point in time (this is constantly changing and a club is not necessarily terrible just because another club has risen in the rankings or the estimation of some members. GoldenTime is a big club with a renowned lineup. Samya is a very well known club. Acapulco on a Monday in February (more of a risk imo). Some members may have encountered hookers in other clubs (other than the clubs which you intend to visit) who have better service levels but I cannot see you having a terrible time in GT and Samya.

As I said everyones opinion is subjective and if it were my choice, I would choose to stay in Hessen and visit Sharks (on Sunday for good line-up at reduced entry price) , Oase (on Monday for best early weekday lineup) and World (on Thursday because it has great facilities and an excellent lineup which hopefully should have recovered from Christmas / New Year Break). But this is just my opinion and preferences and others might think very differently.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

[PussyLiccker]

I agree with CD. Don't worry about what's been said earlier, the posts earlier are not real reports, it's some opinionated nonsense providing false sense of things based on individual's experiences. Recent reports of GT has been positive, and I can assure you ACA and Samya are the two other clubs worth visiting at the NRW. Girls should be back from their holiday break in February, and the line-up should be much bigger than what it was during the holidays.

[Capt Dan]

All opinion is valid. Yours, mine and other recent opinion about GT. Sometimes those who are regular visitors to a particular club can become more aware of the down-side / disavantages associated with a particular establishment. An infrequent (or less frequent) visitor might be happy enough and not see any problems. I am currently an infrequent visitor to GT and would be happy to visit there again in the future (probably summer time when the garden is more usable and the club is consequently less crowded). However saying that I can understand some of the negative comments that have been made recently about GT. However if you like attractive looking hookers GT is a good place to go. Some of the more professional working girls may offer a less than stellar performance but I'm not a big fan of the smaller FKK / Sauna Clubs and I would be willing to put up with GT on an occasional basis because the line up is at the very least optically attractive. Saying all of this, in my opinion the best megaclubs (bigger FKK / Sauna clubs) , at this moment in time, are probably outside of NRW. But every opinion is subjective, including my own.

[Capt Dan]

As I said everyones opinion is subjective and if it were my choice, I would choose to stay in Hessen and visit Sharks (on Sunday for good line-up at reduced entry price) , Oase (on Monday for best early weekday lineup) and World (on Thursday because it has great facilities and an excellent lineup which hopefully should have recovered from Christmas / New Year Break). But this is just my opinion and preferences and others might think very differently.BadinSweet, I see from the Travel Announcements Section that you will possibly be in Hessen on Friday and Saturday and I thought that I would mention that the best days to visit FKK World are definitely Friday and Saturday. Although the line up on a Thursday should be acceptable, some of the girls tend to take Thursday off before the weekend. Therefore Friday and Saturday are normally optimum lineup for FKK World.

Good luck again with whatever you decide to do!

CD

[Maxime]

LOL. Rofl. LOL.

If you are happy with the things offered in Palace, you can go to Oase, Sharks, and also ACA and Samya and will have a good time. Everything is relative, so please avoid the clubs VJ and I mentioned before (or you will be spoiled)

LOL. Rofl. LOL

[GuyFromParis]

OK, I am confused now. I will be in FRA from Feb 9-16. Since it's a messe week I was planning to avoid it by going to NRW area. I was going to go to GT (Sun feb 09) , ACA (Mon) and Samya (Thu).I plan to go again in Frankfurt from 6 to 10 February. But if I understand well, it's not a good period because of messe? (I don't know what is a messe).

[Banana Boi]

Everything is YMMV. We all have different expectations on what makes a good session. Some want couch time pre and post session to make it feel "real" or get "value". Some want PSE while others want sensual. Some want optics, others want service. Anyone with FKK experience will know how to choose wisely. Go with your gut and the right head.

Be positive and go have fun. You're surrounded by naked women you can have sex with for 50 euros or less, how bad can it ever be? Even at the worst club I ever visited, Babylon, I met some fun girls who made me laugh and had a good time.


going to go to GT (Sun feb 09) , ACA (Mon) and Samya (Thu).Badin, Service guys will disagree but I think your current schedule is good. GT for sure on Sunday. Keep in mind ACA like any other club except GT will be very slow on Monday. GT will be the club that most resembles Palace with non-Romanians and more silly cone. Pretty sure you will never return to Palace again after GT. LOL. You will find hot girls at all big clubs in FRA and NRW. DFK will be YMMV. Pretty much all girls will do some form of light kissing.

[Capt Dan]

Everything is YMMV. We all have different expectations on what makes a good session. Some want couch time pre and post session to make it feel "real" or get "value". Some want PSE while others want sensual. Some want optics, others want service. Anyone with FKK experience will know how to choose wisely. Go with your gut and the right head.

Be positive and go have fun. You're surrounded by naked women you can have sex with for 50 euros or less, how bad can it ever be? Even at the worst club I ever visited, Babylon, I met some fun girls who made me laugh and had a good time.

Badin, Service guys will disagree but I think your current schedule is good. GT for sure on Sunday. Keep in mind ACA like any other club except GT will be very slow on Monday. GT will be the club that most resembles Palace with non-Romanians and more silly cone. Pretty sure you will never return to Palace again after GT. LOL. You will find hot girls at all big clubs in FRA and NRW. DFK will be YMMV. Pretty much all girls will do some form of light kissing.Agree 100%.

[PussyLiccker]

I plan to go again in Francfurt from 6 to 10 February. But if I understand well, it's not a good period because of messe? (I don't know what is a mess).Messe is German for fair. More info here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messe_Frankfurt

Important part to keep in mind is that Messe event brings in crowds from outside the the city where the Messe event is occuring. For example, Auto-Messe would bring in crowds from foreign countries, particularly men that would likely attend FKK clubs while visiting Germany for the Messe. One popular club during Auto-Messe is Palace. I have attened the club during the Mess back in '11 in FRA, and 150 girls showed up, and of course the club was packed with men.

Here is a calender that shows list of upcoming events.

http://www.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/en/messe/publications/messekalender.html

Some punters look at the calender to see if there are any events that would bring too much crowds to the city which would overcrowd the clubs. As my example illustrates, girls are aware of this calendar and will show up to clubs during Messe that would bring in lots of clients.

[BadinSweet]

This is exactly the info I was hoping for. Thank you so much everyone for your inputs!


BadinSweet, I see from the Travel Announcements Section that you will possibly be in Hessen on Friday and Saturday and I thought that I would mention that the best days to visit FKK World are definitely Friday and Saturday. Although the line up on a Thursday should be acceptable, some of the girls tend to take Thursday off before the weekend. Therefore Friday and Saturday are normally optimum lineup for FKK World.
As I said everyones opinion is subjective and if it were my choice, I would choose to stay in Hessen and visit Sharks (on Sunday for good line-up at reduced entry price) , Oase (on Monday for best early weekday lineup) and World (on Thursday because it has great facilities and an excellent lineup which hopefully should have recovered from Christmas / New Year Break). But this is just my opinion and preferences and others might think very differently.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
I agree with CD. Don't worry about what's been said earlier, the posts earlier are not real reports, it's some opinionated nonsense providing false sense of things based on individual's experiences. Recent reports of GT has been positive, and I can assure you ACA and Samya are the two other clubs worth visiting at the NRW. Girls should be back from their holiday break in February, and the line-up should be much bigger than what it was during the holidays.
Badin, Service guys will disagree but I think your current schedule is good. GT for sure on Sunday. Keep in mind ACA like any other club except GT will be very slow on Monday. GT will be the club that most resembles Palace with non-Romanians and more silly cone. Pretty sure you will never return to Palace again after GT. LOL. You will find hot girls at all big clubs in FRA and NRW. DFK will be YMMV. Pretty much all girls will do some form of light kissing.
If you are happy with the things offered in Palace, you can go to Oase, Sharks, and also ACA and Samya and will have a good time. Everything is relative, so please avoid the clubs VJ and I mentioned before (or you will be spoiled)Since the hotel that week in Hessen are very pricey here are my current plans. Hope I can hang out with some of you:

Sun Feb 9 = Driving from FRA to GT.

Mon = GT again or some other club like ACA or LR.

Tue and Wed = Going to London for Arsenal / Man U game.

Thu = Back to Germany, possibly Koln for Samya or straight to FRA to try World or Shark where I have never been to.

Fri = Palace.

Sat = Last day in Germany, repeat Palace (depending if the Messs is crazy busy the previous night) or try other club (been to Oase a few times, though I enjoyed each time I find the girls at Palace are much better looking with the exception of Cassandra, De)

[PussyLiccker]

Everything is YMMV. We all have different expectations on what makes a good session. Some want couch time pre and post session to make it feel "real" or get "value". Some want PSE while others want sensual. Some want optics, others want service. Anyone with FKK experience will know how to choose wisely. Go with your gut and the right head.

Be positive and go have fun. You're surrounded by naked women you can have sex with for 50 euros or less, how bad can it ever be? Even at the worst club I ever visited, Babylon, I met some fun girls who made me laugh and had a good time.

Badin, Service guys will disagree but I think your current schedule is good. GT for sure on Sunday. Keep in mind ACA like any other club except GT will be very slow on Monday. GT will be the club that most resembles Palace with non-Romanians and more silly cone. Pretty sure you will never return to Palace again after GT. LOL. You will find hot girls at all big clubs in FRA and NRW. DFK will be YMMV. Pretty much all girls will do some form of light kissing.

Exactly, that's why you have many punters like me attending GT even though it's a sausage-fest, and you have to wait for the some of the popular girls at times. I used to hate GT, I used to call GT Palace of NRW, but last few trips it has been a must club to attend. There are some things I don't like about GT, but in the end, I find girls I like to punt there, food is great, and club staff is very friendly.

Yes, Monday is a bad day for most clubs. Girls will most likely take the slowest days off, and it's Monday or Tuesday. You can't go wrong with Sunday at GT. Samya is a party club so Thursday makes sense.

BadinSweet, I'll be at NRW around that time also. If we meet, I'll point out some nice girls for ya.

[PussyLiccker]

This is exactly the info I was hoping for. Thank you so much everyone for your inputs!

Since the hotel that week in Hessen are very pricey here are my current plans. Hope I can hang out with some of you:

Sun Feb 9 = Driving from FRA to GT.

Mon = GT again or some other club like ACA or LR.

Tue and Wed = Going to London for Arsenal / Man U game.

Thu = Back to Germany, possibly Koln for Samya or straight to FRA to try World or Shark where I have never been to.

Fri = Palace.

Sat = Last day in Germany, repeat Palace (depending if the Messs is crazy busy the previous night) or try other club (been to Oase a few times, though I enjoyed each time I find the girls at Palace are much better looking with the exception of Cassandra, De) Looks like we have same taste in women considering you like Cassandra (Oase) too, she is one of my top girls during my FKK career. She was classy looking German girl that licked Simex's asshole. LOL. I like the optics at Palace too. So most likely we have the same taste in what type of girls to punt.

The year 2012 when Cassandra was in Oase was a good year in Oase, had good line-up and many service oriented new girls, better than 2013 when I checked out the clubs early half of the year and line-up looked to be more or less static. I didn't see any new stunners like Cassandra or others you typically find on Saturdays, so I pretty much stopped attending and shifted my club visits toward NRW because I've been finding more service oriented stunners there.

Given Cassandra is one of your top girls, I think GT line-up will satisfy you in the eye-candy department, and GT girls definitely provide better service than Palace girls. Same for Samya, I would say less Gypsy types Romanians there, and most of the girls are high on the looks department, and high chances of good service from good looking girls there I would say. Make sure you see Samya when the party starts, it will be much different than during the day. So try to attend there after 9, when the music gets going, and girls get real friendly. Bluat found a nice time there during the holidays when most girls are out for holidays. Based on Bluat's report, service at Samya was much better than Artemis during the holidays. The types of Romanians at Samya are different than the Romanians you run into at other clubs IMO.

Regarding your schedule, I would do GT Sun and Mon since Monday most clubs are pretty much dead except GT. GT has good line-up even on Mondays and Tuesdays from my experience. Not sure if most of the girls arrive early on those days. I've witnessed strong line-up early in the day on Thursdays and Sundays. I tend to go to GT when the club opens as most girls will show up during the day and their breakfast is yummy (chef will cook eggs to your liking such as omlet).

Then on Sunday and Monday nights you can choose to do either ACA or Mondial (you can do Mondial when you do Samya on Thursday since they are both in Koln and Mondial opens til 3 and all the girls there stay til 3. ACA is 30e after 9pm on Mon-Thurs, so it makes sense to head for ACA after GT at 8 unless you find nice girls and must stick around. I know plans change. Mondial is 30e entry whenever, but not as nice girls as the clubs previously listed, only handful that you may find to be attractive. But, it's 30e for 20min if you are quick shot type of guy, but I doubt it will come to it after you do GT earlier during the day. LOL.

[IGuyTdh]

Thanks Dufey for the suggestion.

I would a like to thank BadinSweet for starting the discussion and Capt Dan, PussyLicker, Banana Boi for all the advice. I have never been to a FKK.

For me looks ( 8 face and body) are very important. If it gets to 9 and 10 service is pretty much secondary LOL.

I will be staying in FRA from Jan 19th-26th. I can rent a car and drive as much as needed. I am thinking of GT, Samya, ACA, Sharks, World, Oase (Palace based on the feedback from the forum).

I will be landing in FRA early morning Jan 19th. Based on the feedback this is my schedule (please feel free to suggest alternatives)

Sunday / Monday. GT (may be Samya in the late evening)

Tues / Wed. Not sure (need suggestions)

Thus. Work

Fri. Frankfurt. Oase.

Sat. World / Sharks

Thanks once again everyone.

[IndiMann]

Hi,

I plan to be in NRW region mid January and I have the following options in mind, seek advise of seniors.

Option 1. Two days in Dusseldorf area Sat and Sun, please advise which places are best. I can see reports about Acapulco, Samya, Haus Panthera for service.

Option 2. One day in Dusseldorf at any suggested place.

One day in Frankfurt at Fkk Sharks or any other suggestion.

Have also read some reports about girls going back for new year vacation and coming back by February only?

Considering that I am for combo of good looks and service, and prefer to have good couch time before going to the room, please suggest.

Thanks for help from all.

[McAdonis]

If you attend LR on the same day, you can ask the GT front desk ladies for a 25 EUR discount voucher. I did this on New Years day when the club started to get crowded at 6pm. Inside each of the GT lockers, there is usually a 10 EUR voucher for LR. Either way it makes sense to attend GT prior to LR. Instead of paying 60 EUR at LR, you end up paying either 35 or 50 EUR.


Sun Feb 9 = Driving from FRA to GT.

Mon = GT again or some other club like ACA or LR.

[Member #4297]

Hi guys

Even though I had around 10 mongering trips to Germany but I am still a noob to the FKK scene, I am just wondering in which FKK its possible to rent a room and sleep at the club at night (just like a hotel) ? I remember hearing about something like this.

[Capt Dan]

Hi guys

Even though I had around 10 mongering trips to Germany but I am still a noob to the FKK scene, I am just wondering in which FKK its possible to rent a room and sleep at the club at night (just like a hotel)? I remember hearing about something like this.FKK Villa Vertigo (Grefrath) , FKK World (Giessen) and FKK Sauna Club Harem (Paderborn) spring to mind.

[Capt Dan]

I will be landing in FRA early morning Jan 19th. Based on the feedback this is my schedule (please feel free to suggest alternatives)

Sunday / Monday. GT (may be Samya in the late evening)

Tues / Wed. Not sure (need suggestions)

Thus. Work

Fri. Frankfurt. Oase.

Sat. World / Sharks

Thanks once again everyone.Personally, I think you are doing this a bit ass ways and I'll tell you why!

You are landing in Frankfurt on Sunday and then travelling a couple of hundred kilometers up to Samya or GT (even worse) on Sunday! Probably the best club to visit on Sunday and Mondays are FKK Sharks (Sunday) and FKK Oase (Sunday or Monday) which are back in Frankfurt area. I would then travel up to GT (and LivingRoom) for Tuesday and Wednesday (perhaps Samya on Wednesday). Please note you get discounted entry to LivingRoom following GT entry. Friday and Saturday I would travel to FKK World or FKK Oase (again). There may be other ways to do this trip but this is what immediately springs to mind. In my opinion you have a better chance of stronger lineups if you go this way. Pity you have to give up a good mongering day (Thursday) for work. Better to give up Monday or Tuesday.

CD

[PussyLiccker]

Hi,

I plan to be in NRW region mid January and I have the following options in mind, seek advise of seniors.

Option 1. Two days in Dusseldorf area Sat and Sun, please advise which places are best. I can see reports about Acapulco, Samya, Haus Panthera for service.

Option 2. One day in Dusseldorf at any suggested place.

One day in Frankfurt at Fkk Sharks or any other suggestion.

Have also read some reports about girls going back for new year vacation and coming back by February only?

Considering that I am for combo of good looks and service, and prefer to have good couch time before going to the room, please suggest.

Thanks for help from all.If it was up to me, I would choose Samya on Saturday (make sure you check out the evening party) , and GT on Sunday. If you can move around I'd try out ACA also on Saturday, but I have a feeling that that there will not be many girls there around that time (you can prove us wrong though. LOL.). But, all in all, if you haven't been to clubs in Hessen and NRW, I highly recommend trying all the big clubs in both regions to see which clubs you like best. Some clubs are generally popular among most punters, and some have specific customer base.

[ShoesAndSocks]

Hi guys

Even though I had around 10 mongering trips to Germany but I am still a noob to the FKK scene, I am just wondering in which FKK its possible to rent a room and sleep at the club at night (just like a hotel)? I remember hearing about something like this.I think that's FKK World outside of FRA. Haven't done it myself.

[YamaYama0519]

I think that's FKK World.Over night stays: VIP-Room with own bathroom price per night 100- Euro. The room is available from when the club closes until the next morning 11 am. (If you want to enjoy the next day as well in our house, you will have to purchase a new day pass.).

[Capt Dan]

Personally, I think you are doing this a bit ass ways and I'll tell you why!

You are landing in Frankfurt on Sunday and then travelling a couple of hundred kilometers up to Samya or GT (even worse) on Sunday! Probably the best club to visit on Sunday and Mondays are FKK Sharks (Sunday) and FKK Oase (Sunday or Monday) which are back in Frankfurt area. I would then travel up to GT (and LivingRoom) for Tuesday and Wednesday (perhaps Samya on Wednesday). Please note you get discounted entry to LivingRoom following GT entry. Friday and Saturday I would travel to FKK World or FKK Oase (again). There may be other ways to do this trip but this is what immediately springs to mind. In my opinion you have a better chance of stronger lineups if you go this way. Pity you have to give up a good mongering day (Thursday) for work. Better to give up Monday or Tuesday.

CDAlso you can get discounted entry into FKK Sharks on Sunday if you turn up on time.

[Capt Dan]

FKK Villa Vertigo (Grefrath) , FKK World (Giessen) and FKK Sauna Club Harem (Paderborn) spring to mind.Also FKK Paradise (Stuttgart) and FKK Palace (Frankfurt) are located right beside some very nice hotels.

CD

[PussyLiccker]

Personally, I think you are doing this a bit ass ways and I'll tell you why!

You are landing in Frankfurt on Sunday and then travelling a couple of hundred kilometers up to Samya or GT (even worse) on Sunday! Probably the best club to visit on Sunday and Mondays are FKK Sharks (Sunday) and FKK Oase (Sunday or Monday) which are back in Frankfurt area. I would then travel up to GT (and LivingRoom) for Tuesday and Wednesday (perhaps Samya on Wednesday). Please note you get discounted entry to LivingRoom following GT entry. Friday and Saturday I would travel to FKK World or FKK Oase (again). There may be other ways to do this trip but this is what immediately springs to mind. In my opinion you have a better chance of stronger lineups if you go this way. Pity you have to give up a good mongering day (Thursday) for work. Better to give up Monday or Tuesday.

CDA bit of ass ways? LOL. It all depends on what time he lands at FRA. GT on Sundays have good line-up. Friday and Saturdays are days to avoid since most of the men show up on those days. Sharks, the line-up has currently been reported to be thin on Sunday by PChew who has cut his loss and went to Mainhattan. Oase is not a good club to visit on Monday, but Sunday could be ok. Best day for Oase is Saturday, but generally toward the end of the week better than beginning of the week like most clubs.

Mondays and Tuesdays are generally bad, and I would recommend GT on Monday if you are at the NRW. I would recommend Samya on Wednesday. There are other clubs in the NRW you can try on Tuesday such as Magnum, ACA, DV, or PHG. I would recommend checking out ACA on Tuesday. But, like most clubs, they don't get going until the evening when most of the girls show up especially on early week days. I'm hoping the girls at ACA are in full force by your visit.

[PussyLiccker]

Looks like ACA on Saturday had 80 girls. Girls are starting to come back. Does anybody know the highest number of girls ACA gets?

[IGuyTdh]

CD and PL,

Thanks for the suggestions. I will be landing early in the morning. I think I can hit the road between 9-10 am towards either Oase vs Sharks vs GT.

You guys know the scene better. I will do whatever the suggestions are from senior members.

Thanks

[Member #4297]

Thanks capt that and ShoesAndSocks for your helpful answers.

Happy mongering everybody.

[Biggut Eight]

I have not yet been to FKK and want to go to Germany this year.

When do the outdoor pools open? In the US it is usually hot enough around mid May. When I go to the FKK club websites they usually have pictures of outdoor pools and girls hanging around outside which sounds like fun to me.

Also- do some of the clubs have indoor pools?

[Capt Dan]

A bit of ass ways? LOL. It all depends on what time he lands at FRA. GT on Sundays have good line-up. Friday and Saturdays are days to avoid since most of the men show up on those days. Sharks, the line-up has currently been reported to be thin on Sunday by PChew who has cut his loss and went to Mainhattan. Oase is not a good club to visit on Monday, but Sunday could be ok. Best day for Oase is Saturday, but generally toward the end of the week better than beginning of the week like most clubs.

Mondays and Tuesdays are generally bad, and I would recommend GT on Monday if you are at the NRW. I would recommend Samya on Wednesday. There are other clubs in the NRW you can try on Tuesday such as Magnum, ACA, DV, or PHG. I would recommend checking out ACA on Tuesday. But, like most clubs, they don't get going until the evening when most of the girls show up especially on early week days. I'm hoping the girls at ACA are in full force by your visit.I was being polite when using the term "ass ways". The actual word in Hiberno-English is Arseways (adv. Phr. Wrong, mixed-up) means to have something back to front or upside down or could be done better.

No clubs are particularly good on Monday or Tuesday but GT and Oase are usually the strongest options on either of these days by comparrison with other Mega-Clubs. The line-up of Sharks on Sunday was good enough before Christmas but may have weakened after the holiday. You do get reduced entry in FKK Sharks on Sunday (check the website for details).

Generally speaking at the moment I'm not a big fan of the NRW clubs with regards to lineup and performance. GT is about the best of the bigger clubs if you want an extended lineup of decent quality. Lineup in Acaupulco can be good but I'm not a fan of the way this club is set up and I'm not sure how good the lineup will be in January. I have heard few (if any) good reports about Magnum, other than the club is expansive. Samya can be good but so can PSR if you don't mind a more restricted lineup. PSR has the advantage of being luxurious. Samya would beat it with regards to lineup. My advice at this time of the year is to stick to the bigger clubs if you want to have some hope of a reasonable, less restricted hooker lineup. Smaller clubs (in NRW or Hessen) can be good performance wise but you will probably have far less good looking hookers to pick from.

[BadinSweet]

Again, thank you everyone for all the info and tips!


If you attend LR on the same day, you can ask the GT front desk ladies for a 25 EUR discount voucher. I did this on New Years day when the club started to get crowded at 6pm. Inside each of the GT lockers, there is usually a 10 EUR voucher for LR. Either way it makes sense to attend GT prior to LR. Instead of paying 60 EUR at LR, you end up paying either 35 or 50 EUR.
BadinSweet, I'll be at NRW around that time also. If we meet, I'll point out some nice girls for ya.That would be great, thanks!

[Beffen1]

I have not yet been to FKK and want to go to Germany this year.

When do the outdoor pools open? In the US it is usually hot enough around mid May. When I go to the FKK club websites they usually have pictures of outdoor pools and girls hanging around outside which sounds like fun to me.

Also- do some of the clubs have indoor pools?Oase- stainles steel outdoor pool only, it is open now for dips after sauna.

FKK World, nice indoor pool and outdoor pool, should open in May.

Sharks- indoor pool upstairs, outdoor pool may be open.

Acapulco in NRW (Velbert). Indoor pool.

Mainhattan- outdoor pool closed until May.

Planet Happy garden- small outdoor pool.

Beffen

[Iceberg27]

I am still not clear about the way from Fra to Vienna. You guys mean Goldentime Vienna bay saying GT and how long does it take to go to Vienna from Fra? I have seen on a website it takes 6 hours with train and some guys here said 2, 5 hours? Is this with car or what? Is there anyone to clarify this issue?

[Capt Dan]

I am still not clear about the way from Fra to Vienna. You guys mean Goldentime Vienna bay saying GT and how long does it take to go to Vienna from Fra? I have seen on a website it takes 6 hours with train and some guys here said 2, 5 hours? Is this with car or what? Is there anyone to clarify this issue?Wrong! GT is the normal abreviation (used on the Germany. FKK Clubs forum) for Sauna Club GoldenTime in Bruggen, Nordrhein-Westfalen and not to be confused with GoldenTime in Vienna.

www.goldentime.de

[Hessen Bub]

Ist too difficult to go to Google maps? F. Vienna is about 700km by car. About 5-7 hours depending on traffic.

HB

[Biggut Eight]

Beffen,

Thanks for the great info.

[PussyLiccker]

I am still not clear about the way from Fra to Vienna. You guys mean Goldentime Vienna bay saying GT and how long does it take to go to Vienna from Fra? I have seen on a website it takes 6 hours with train and some guys here said 2, 5 hours? Is this with car or what? Is there anyone to clarify this issue?You have GT Germany and GT Vienna mixed up. Like CD says, we're talking about German clubs here. We are referring to GT in Bruggen, Germany. Not GT in Vienna, Austria. FRA to Bruggen is roughly 2. 5 hours drive. So that 6 hours is probably from FRA to Vienna, but those guys you are referring to are talking about FRA to Bruggen, Germany.

If you are in Turkey, you can fly to Dusseldorf or Frankfurt if you like to hit clubs in Hessen or the NRW, or Both. FRA is in the state of Hessen and Dusseldorf is in the state of NRW. Those two regions are abundant with popular clubs.

[Benny120]

Hey guys,

I was wondering if anyone knows of any good over the counter pill that will help me perform better at FKK? I'm going to be at a fkk club for 10 hours straight, and I would love to do as many girls as possible. I'm still relatively young, but climaxing so many times within such a short time frame might be difficult, and I could use some help.

[Iceberg27]

You have GT Germany and GT Vienna mixed up. Like CD says, we're talking about German clubs here. We are referring to GT in Bruggen, Germany. Not GT in Vienna, Austria. FRA to Bruggen is roughly 2. 5 hours drive. So that 6 hours is probably from FRA to Vienna, but those guys you are referring to are talking about FRA to Bruggen, Germany.

If you are in Turkey, you can fly to Dusseldorf or Frankfurt if you like to hit clubs in Hessen or the NRW, or Both. FRA is in the state of Hessen and Dusseldorf is in the state of NRW. Those two regions are abundant with popular clubs.Pussylicker and Capt thanks a lot for the info you have provided. It's really clear in my mind now.

And Hessen of course it's easy to go and check the Google Maps but it wouldn't tell you that there are two different clubs one in NRW and one in Vienna both named GT!

Regards.

[PussyLiccker]

I don't want to get this thread into another racism discussion.

I forgot to mention this for those that are planning to visit GT for the first time. Keep in mind that there is a door policy at GT. Potential clients has been turned away at GT based on appearance, and if you read the GT thread (read the thread for more details) , potential clients with darker skin that looks Turkish or Black will most likely get denied entry, but it's not always the case as the Cane has been let in, gentlemen of Mediterranean looks from time to time, and also I know an Indian gentleman that is allowed entry there, but he may have been attending before the door policy. I have seen groups of light skinned folks get denied entry so it's perplexing to me. Clientele is mostly Dutch there.

If you fit the profile, and if you don't mind the risk of being denied entry, I would say high probability of being allowed entry is if you go alone(not a first timer group with the same profile, and also don't dress like a thug), or with those that do not fit the profile, or with regulars the front desk lady recognizes, and go early as possible before it gets crowded. On Friday I believe it can start getting crowded around 3pm, weekends are crazy.

Good Luck!

[Hessen Bub]

And Hessen of course it's easy to go and check the Google Maps but it wouldn't tell you that there are two different clubs one in NRW and one in Vienna both named GT!Maybe. But your question was "how long does it take to go to Vienna from Fra?"

HB

[The Cane]

[B]ut it's not always the case as the Cane has been let in.Except for East Asian and Caucasian, I can pass for being many "things". So yes, I got in. And then "I got in" to some Romanian and Polish mouths, pussies, and arseholes. The girl who I cornholed spoke perfect Spanish and said she was from Barcelona, Spain. Good chance she was a Romie though as many of them work in Spain and can speak decent Spanish. Well, who cares? Either way she was very attractive with one bangin' bubble butt, and that anus was nice and tight and deep and warm hombres!

[Benny120]

Hi guys,

I have a big dilemma now, and I need your help making a decision.

I have the option of stopping overnight, either in Dusseldorf or in Frankfurt. Both will cost me the same amount of time and money.

I want to have the best fkk experience possible. On the one hand I understood that the Frankfurt girls are more beautiful in general. But I think that in the Dusseldorf area the clubs are cheaper and more service oriented.

So which area is generally considered best for FKK clubs, NRW or Frankfurt?

Part 2. If you recommend either Düsseldorf or Frankfurt, please tell me the very best clubs in both cities which I should go to as a first choice.

I was thinking that Oase in Frankfurt, and Living room in Düsseldorf are the two best options. Please tell me what you think.

So please help me out guys, I must make a decision very soon.

[UltraHappy]

Hi guys,

I have a big dilemma now, and I need your help making a decision.

I have the option of stopping overnight, either in Dusseldorf or in Frankfurt. Both will cost me the same amount of time and money.

I want to have the best fkk experience possible. On the one hand I understood that the Frankfurt girls are more beautiful in general. But I think that in the Dusseldorf area the clubs are cheaper and more service oriented.

So which area is generally considered best for FKK clubs, NRW or Frankfurt?

Part 2. If you recommend either Düsseldorf or Frankfurt, please tell me the very best clubs in both cities which I should go to as a first choice.

I was thinking that Oase in Frankfurt, and Living room in Düsseldorf are the two best options. Please tell me what you think.

So please help me out guys, I must make a decision very soon.For your first time, go to Oase in Frankfurt. Next time when you have a couple more days, go to Dusseldorf and visit a few of the clubs in the area, including Planet Happy Garden, Living Room, and one other club of your choice. You can skip Golden Times. If you have time in Frankfurt in the future, go to Sharks also.

Of course, what are you going to do when ten other guys give you ten other answers on this forum? Only true way to know what you like is to go visit each one. And then you still won't know because the line-up at each club changes over time. So, you will have to keep constantly visiting all of them to really know which one is the "best" for you at any given time. It's a tough job I know.

[McAdonis]

In Frankfurt, Oase, World, Sharks have 50+ girls. NRW clubs like GT and Acapulco have large lineups as well. But I believe the NRW pricing scheme encourages men to spend more time in the room with the men, whereas the Frankfurt clubs, men more frequently opt for a 50 EUR. 30 minute session. If you are rushed for time, Frankfurt might be the better option. I have specific tastes so sometimes in a lineup of 70 or so girls, there are only 3-4 that I am interested in. In NRW, it seems that the girl I spend a lot of time waiting for specific girls, because they have disappeared off the floor for two hours.


Hi guys,

I have a big dilemma now, and I need your help making a decision.

I have the option of stopping overnight, either in Dusseldorf or in Frankfurt. Both will cost me the same amount of time and money.

I want to have the best fkk experience possible. On the one hand I understood that the Frankfurt girls are more beautiful in general. But I think that in the Dusseldorf area the clubs are cheaper and more service oriented.

So which area is generally considered best for FKK clubs, NRW or Frankfurt?

Part 2. If you recommend either Düsseldorf or Frankfurt, please tell me the very best clubs in both cities which I should go to as a first choice.

I was thinking that Oase in Frankfurt, and Living room in Düsseldorf are the two best options. Please tell me what you think.

So please help me out guys, I must make a decision very soon.

[Member #4581]

Tough job, eh Ultrahappy?

Ouch, my heart bleeds for you all. LOL.

Stuck here in sex starved USA, I will be happy to take some load off your hands, no pun. LOL.


For your first time, go to Oase in Frankfurt. Next time when you have a couple more days, go to Dusseldorf and visit a few of the clubs in the area, including Planet Happy Garden, Living Room, and one other club of your choice. You can skip Golden Times. If you have time in Frankfurt in the future, go to Sharks also.

Of course, what are you going to do when ten other guys give you ten other answers on this forum? Only true way to know what you like is to go visit each one. And then you still won't know because the line-up at each club changes over time. So, you will have to keep constantly visiting all of them to really know which one is the "best" for you at any given time. It's a tough job I know.

[Hessen Bub]

I will be in NRW / Düsseldorf on a Tuesday and Wednesday, both days I want to spend at a club. So what's the best deal? I want to to to GT for sure, options for the second club are PHG, VV or something else.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

HB

[Beffen1]

I will be in NRW / Düsseldorf on a Tuesday and Wednesday, both days I want to spend at a club. So what's the best deal? I want to to to GT for sure, options for the second club are PHG, VV or something else.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

HBHey Bub,

I recommend GT and Acapulco. Aca lineup was decimated over the holidays but I think it is back up to snuff. PHG and VV are going to have thin lineups during the day and from what we hear here, its no great shakes at night either. Samya is also a possibility- Brittney is there. Tha't what I'd do if I were back in NRW. Have fun man.

Beffen

[Banana Boi]

I will be in NRW / Düsseldorf on a Tuesday and Wednesday, both days I want to spend at a club. So what's the best deal? I want to to to GT for sure, options for the second club are PHG, VV or something else.Tuesday - GT.
Wed - GT in day, ACA (large club, lots of girls, feels like a morgue) or Samya (small club, 40-50 girls, party club after 9 pm) at night. Keep in mind both Samya and ACA are supposedly "no approach" clubs.

Clubs like PHG, LR, DV, etc. are ok on Fri / Sat night but it's not what I would recommend on weekdays.

Have fun, HB. Can't wait to hear your opinion.

[PussyLiccker]

I will be in NRW / Düsseldorf on a Tuesday and Wednesday, both days I want to spend at a club. So what's the best deal? I want to to to GT for sure, options for the second club are PHG, VV or something else.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

HBHoly cow, hell must have frozen over! HB is back at the NRW! My advice is not different from BB. GT is good on those days, not as many punters as weekends, and at GT it's a good thing believe me. Jymondor knows. GT is a great daytime club, and also night, but I prefer to stay there during daytime. I hope you find some nice 75 an hour girls if you like long sessions.

I don't know how long ago you were at the NRW, but I'm guessing it was at a time when PHG was one of the top clubs at the NRW? Well, not anymore, and it's not recommeded for punters that do not regularly take trips to the NRW. Lot has changed probably. ACA and Samya are the other two top clubs there.

Also forget about VV, LR, and DV. All small clubs that are usually hit or miss that you can try later. Forget Magnum, it usually doesn't get going until like 8, club is dead most of the day, and week days are weak.


ACA (large club, lots of girls, feels like a morgue)Yes, this place would appear to be quite different than what you are used at Hessen. I would give this place a try, I was uncomfortable my first visit like everyone else, but I found out why girls are so, and got used to the environment. It's just a house rule, the reason why girls sit bored on the couch. Can't beat the 40 entry (30 after 9 Mon-Thurs happy hour) , and 40 every half hour session. Ok, most of these girls haven't been in the industry for long time, but they are young and most of them do provide DFK, and I feel they are more willing to listen to what you like to do. All the girls I've been with did not offer CIM and Anal though. In terms of quantity, I would say the biggest at the NRW when the girls are not on vacation.

I would say ACA and Samya girls are like Mainhattan girls. Young and provide good services. ACA has very diverse looking girls even though majority are Romanians.

Similar to ACA, I see lots of young Romanish girls here also. I attended Samya my most recent trip during the holidays, when half the Romanians were missing at this club. Sill loved it, girls are very positive mood and very upbeat later at night, when Turkish and Romanish music is playing. I don't listen to that crap, but with the girls dancing and grinding, I don't mind it at all. You'll get your GFE for sure here. I've been there during the day, difference is huge, didn't like it at all during the day. I happened to check it out at night during the holidays and found out what was so special about this club.

[Hessen Bub]

So it's going to be GT on a Tuesday, might switch to LR at night with the reduced entry on the same day.

I know Aca and Samya. Also VV from a visit years ago, and PHG must have been like in 2004/05. So I'll skip Happy Garden and maybe go to Aca on Wednesday.

Thanks.

HB

[Free Dude]

Just some tips for HB in LR: line up is pretty good at the moment. Girls that are worth a go at the moment: very young and tiny blonde Sunny (you'll notice her as the happy 'frohnatur' jumping around in the club. The quiet and young Jovana (don't be fooled, one of the best girls in the club at the moment) ; pretty Delia you might remember from Oase; Slovakian Editha with the pretty face and black curl and Tanja is a steady value at the club. LR is pretty good at the moment, even during the week. Boring as hell though.

[PussyLiccker]

Boring as hell though.This is why I can't stay in this club for a long period of time. The club is so small, and not too many areas. It's the most boring club in between sessions. More of a small local club for short stay, not that great for travelers for long stay like the clubs in Hessen. Service is pretty good there though. It's worth a look with the discounted entry and the late closing time (great combo after GT). It's not worth it without the 25e discount.

[Jazzy001]

Any recommendation on best FKK Club to visit. GFE FKK Clubs.

[Benny120]

Hi guys,

I'm going to be in Düsseldorf on a stopover on a Monday from around 9 AM till 6 PM.

I'm looking to go to the best club possible given my limited options and time available. I want a club that's easily accessible by public transportation from the airport, or a relatively cheap taxi ride (max. 15 euro).

I also want a club that has at least a few beautiful model type girls and an overall good lineup. Also I want an fkk club where the girls are actually naked, not one of those phony sauna clubs where they wear lingerie.

Based on my research I think my options are DV, LR, Panthera, or blue note. All the other ones are too difficult to reach via public transportation, and are too expensive to go via Taxi. I really don't want to rent a car.

So guys what would you recommend I do based on my options and preferences?

[Simon2001]

Hi,

Can somebody please advise if there any other fkk clubs outside of Germany.

I know about Golden time in Vienna, but are there any others?

Thanks

[BigBuddy69]

Based on my research I think my options are DV, LR, Panthera, or blue note. All the other ones are too difficult to reach via public transportation, and are too expensive to go via Taxi. I really don't want to rent a car.

So guys what would you recommend I do based on my options and preferences?Magnum is easily reachable too.

[ShoesAndSocks]

Can somebody please advise if there any other fkk clubs outside of Germany.Switzerland also, mainly in Zurich. See that thread for details.

[Diet Coke]

Switzerland also, mainly in Zurich. See that thread for details.I am planning to check out FKK Basel in April. Very few reports, some on another forum. Prices in Switzerland are very high and that FKK seemed the best choice for the money. 70 Swiss francs to enter. 70 for half hour and 10 for room for half hour.

[Kimino]

Hi,

Can somebody please advise if there any other fkk clubs outside of Germany.

I know about Golden time in Vienna, but are there any others?

ThanksAndiamo Fkk in Villach, Austria, is great. Been there 3/4 times and allways had great fun. Nice girls, good food and a general cool vibe. Last visit a year ago. Think I filed a report in the austrian thread with details. Not sure but a second Fkk might have opened up in Villach recently.

Cheers.

Kimino

[Free Dude]

Andiamo Fkk in Villach, Austria, is great. Been there 3/4 times and allways had great fun. Nice girls, good food and a general cool vibe. Last visit a year ago. Think I filed a report in the austrian thread with details. Not sure but a second Fkk might have opened up in Villach recently.

Cheers.

KiminoTo quote the little pornstar that worked there (and just returned to Livingroom) : 'Nobody kisses in this club'. Too bad I found that this was what all the girls I talked to corroborated, with the exception of the girl who I took to a room for a few meaingless pecks on the lips. And the club is full of Italians that think they are in heaven. A waste of money.

There are two clubs in the Netherlands (near the border) : Sixsense in Lemiers and Yingyang in Roermond. Besides the clubs in Austria and Switzerland, there is also the 'sexy sauna' in Prague; just of Wenceslav Square in the street with the stripclubs (Darling and Atlas).

[Kimino]

To quote the little pornstar that worked there (and just returned to Livingroom) : 'Nobody kisses in this club'. Too bad I found that this was what all the girls I talked to corroborated, with the exception of the girl who I took to a room for a few meaingless pecks on the lips. And the club is full of Italians that think they are in heaven. A waste of money.

There are two clubs in the Netherlands (near the border) : Sixsense in Lemiers and Yingyang in Roermond. Besides the clubs in Austria and Switzerland, there is also the 'sexy sauna' in Prague; just of Wenceslav Square in the street with the stripclubs (Darling and Atlas).Ciao Free Dude, not sure I understand correctly. Did you visit the club recently or are saying this based on what girls told you?

I'm normally in Berlin and sometimes in the Fra area so don't have a clue about the current situation there. The last 2 "andiamo girls" I met in other clubs gave me positive feedback about it.

On the 100% italians, no doubt.

Cheers.

Kimino

[Free Dude]

Ciao Free Dude, not sure I understand correctly. Did you visit the club recently or are saying this based on what girls told you?

I'm normally in Berlin and sometimes in the Fra area so don't have a clue about the current situation there. The last 2 "andiamo girls" I met in other clubs gave me positive feedback about it.

On the 100% italians, no doubt.

Cheers.

KiminoI was in Andiamo in August 2013, maybe not 'recent', but not too long ago either. The girl I was talking about, I knew her from Goldentime (where she also didn't kiss) so we chatted a bit; she just returned to livingroom (fwiw: Carla in NRW and Cheyenne in Andiamo).

Positive feedback, sure: 70 for half an hour for limited service. You get similar positive stories if you meet girls that are new to GT, after having worked in other clubs.

[Kimino]

I was in Andiamo in August 2013, maybe not 'recent', but not too long ago either. The girl I was talking about, I knew her from Goldentime (where she also didn't kiss) so we chatted a bit; she just returned to livingroom (fwiw: Carla in NRW and Cheyenne in Andiamo).

Positive feedback, sure: 70 for half an hour for limited service. You get similar positive stories if you meet girls that are new to GT, after having worked in other clubs.Boh, don't know, my visits where a bit before that. But Cheyenne name rings bells. Remember good things with a Cheyenne but I'm probably mixing up with a girl in Palace a long time ago.

Too many clubs, too many names. Love it. LOL.

Ciao.

Kimino

[Anaximander]

Hi guys,

I have mongered in many countries for many years. I have been to Germany many, many times. But I have never been to an FKK!

I intend to fix this soon, and ideally I would visit a few FKKs with my girlfriend (she is quite hot, liberal, we have seen a few escorts together before; also from a country where many of the WGs come from but had never been one herself).

Can anyone tell me if they have ever seen punters in any FKKs with their girlfriends / wives / whatever? How would the clubs likely react? Are the girls predominantly hetero / bi?

Any guidance greatfully received!

Thanks!

AX

[PussyLiccker]

I've seen a man bring a girl guest to Oase, and she was given a special red robe probably as an indicator.

[McAdonis]

Which clubs offer this? And so would you have to arrive on the the actual day of your birthday before midnight? Let's say your birthday is February 1st. Can you enter on February 1st at midnight? Or do you have to wait for the club to open at 10am-11am to claim your free entry?

[Party001]

Fellow bms,

I'm organising my second tour de fkk. Duration of trip: 2 weeks.

Planning to visit Oase, World, Mainhatten, Palace multiple times.

I've already been to Oase, World, Sharks. Loved all three, with World being my fav, followed by sharks, then Oase. My first trip I used a car rental.

This time I plan not to rent a car or catch public transport. Was hoping I can draw from your collective wisdom and see which options are viable.

Option: stay in hotels close to fkk club.

World: guesthouse Zum Grünen Baum 1km from club

(I can walk to fkk from hotel. No need for taxi)

Oase: gasthaus-altebruecke in Bad Homburg, Ober-Erlenbach.

(would it be difficult to find a taxi to take me from hotel to fkk?)

Mainhatten / Palace: hotel between the two fkks.

(how much would taxi cost one way to either fkk?)

I'd stay 3-4 days in each hotel before saddling up and moving to the next.

Is the above plan workable? Your thoughts much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Party

[Boomer10]

Which clubs offer this? And so would you have to arrive on the the actual day of your birthday before midnight? Let's say your birthday is February 1st. Can you enter on February 1st at midnight? Or do you have to wait for the club to open at 10am-11am to claim your free entry?This has been answered a few times in the past and I don't remember all the clubs that where listed. My favorite, Bernd's, offers free entry on your birthday (if your birthday is on a day they're closed, I believe if you go on the next day they're open, they count that as your birthday). Since they close earlier than most clubs, entering at mid-night isn't an option.

[PussyLiccker]

What is the best US bank to withdrawal cash from German ATM without additional fees? I've been using BoA, but their partnership with DB ended, so their rates are way up there now.

[Beffen1]

What is the best US bank to withdrawal cash from German ATM without additional fees? I've been using BoA, but their partnership with DB ended, so their rates are way up there now.Open a brokerage account with Charles Schwab. There is no minimum balance ever, you can link it to your regular bank account to electronically deposit funds when you are traveling. Just call them before your trip and tell them you will be in Germany for which days so there are no problems. The Schwab brokerage account has an associated checking account that comes with a debit card. The debit card is free of all ATM fees and there are no 3% international transaction fees, any of those small ATM fees are automatically refunded each month. Use this debit card to withdraw cash from ATMs anywhere in the world at the current exchange rate free of international transaction fees or ATM use fees. There is no fee or minumum balance for this account.

Also, an American Express Blue bird card is a preloadedable debit card that has no foreign transaction fees, however it is 2 dollars each time you use an ATM.

Beffen

[Beffen1]

I've seen a man bring a girl guest to Oase, and she was given a special red robe probably as an indicator.Also at World many times, the woman gets a regular white robe and I think she must wear it in public areas.

[Diet Coke]

What is the best US bank to withdrawal cash from German ATM without additional fees? I've been using BoA, but their partnership with DB ended, so their rates are way up there now.When did their partnership with B of A end?

[PussyLiccker]

When did their partnership with B of A end?Sometime in November 2013, I noticed it on my statement.

And, thanks Beffen!

[UltraHappy]

I've seen a man bring a girl guest to Oase, and she was given a special red robe probably as an indicator.Very odd. My girl got an extra small regular-looking yellow robe. I had no idea they even had ones that tiny until I brought her as my guest.

Never saw a red one before.

[Anaximander]

Guys thanks for the advice on taking my girlfriend to an FKK.

I just asked her if she wanted to come and she said yes! (Which I didn't doubt of course.).

I will post for some more specific advice nearer the time.

For now, one more question: what % of girls at FKKs are bi / will see girls? And do they charge double the usual fee for a couple (I. E. 100eur vs 50)?

Of course I will post reviews on here after the event.

Thanks again!

[UltraHappy]

Open a brokerage account with Charles Schwab. There is no minimum balance ever, you can link it to your regular bank account to electronically deposit funds when you are traveling. Just call them before your trip and tell them you will be in Germany for which days so there are no problems. The Schwab brokerage account has an associated checking account that comes with a debit card. The debit card is free of all ATM fees and there are no 3% international transaction fees, any of those small ATM fees are automatically refunded each month. Use this debit card to withdraw cash from ATMs anywhere in the world at the current exchange rate free of international transaction fees or ATM use fees. There is no fee or minumum balance for this account.

Also, an American Express Blue bird card is a preloadedable debit card that has no foreign transaction fees, however it is 2 dollars each time you use an ATM.

BeffenThe Schwab High-Yield Investor Checking account is great. One word of caution. If you want to use this, you will have to start the process about 6 weeks before your next trip. You can't wait until the last minute or you will be too late. After you apply for the Brokerage account, then you will have to follow-up with mailing in a signature card, then you will have to authorize a linked account to transfer funds, then after the linking process is verified, then you will have to fund the account, yadda-yadda. Just give yourself about 6 weeks for all this to happen, though you could probably do it in about 4 weeks if you don't dilly-dally about it.

It's really worth it since Schwab gives you the VISA daily exchange rate with no transaction fees and they refund all ATM fees. Cheapest way to get muschi money abroad. The default daily ATM withdrawal rate is $1, 000 so you'll likely need to get that permanently raised because the muschis are indeed very expensive these days. They even pay you some interest on the cash you happen to have in the checking account which is nice too.

[UltraHappy]

Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me if they have ever seen punters in any FKKs with their girlfriends / wives / whatever? How would the clubs likely react? Are the girls predominantly hetero / bi?Yes, I have seen this many times in Oase. I have brought a girl with me in Oase before too. I just told the Receptionist, two tickets please when I showed up and she didn't even bat an eyelash. Just handed my little friend a tiny bathrobe. I've seen other guy's girlfriend's walking around in yellow bathrobes before too. So there's no doubt you can bring your girlfriend or wife there but bringing your "whatever". Well, I don't know about that.

One word of caution: When I took my girlfriend to the NRW area, I tried calling several of the clubs in the area to ask them if I could bring my girlfriend but they all said no, at least the ones I called. I called ahead because I didn't want to waste time driving around to all the clubs. I don't know if they would have let her in had we just showed up though. PHG told us that I couldn't take her there on a weekend night but I could bring her on Monday night (we ended up just making our own FKK in the hotel room that night instead).

Just based on sheer population statistics, I suspect that most girls are hetero but a few are lesbian of course.

[PussyLiccker]

The Schwab High-Yield Investor Checking account is great. One word of caution. If you want to use this, you will have to start the process about 6 weeks before your next trip. You can't wait until the last minute or you will be too late. After you apply for the Brokerage account, then you will have to follow-up with mailing in a signature card, then you will have to authorize a linked account to transfer funds, then after the linking process is verified, then you will have to fund the account, yadda-yadda. Just give yourself about 6 weeks for all this to happen, though you could probably do it in about 4 weeks if you don't dilly-dally about it.

It's really worth it since Schwab gives you the VISA daily exchange rate with no transaction fees and they refund all ATM fees. Cheapest way to get muschi money abroad. The default daily ATM withdrawal rate is $1, 000 so you'll likely need to get that permanently raised because the muschis are indeed very expensive these days. They even pay you some interest on the cash you happen to have in the checking account which is nice too.I have a trip coming up soon, any short term solutions?

[Beffen1]

The Schwab High-Yield Investor Checking account is great. One word of caution. If you want to use this, you will have to start the process about 6 weeks before your next trip. You can't wait until the last minute or you will be too late. After you apply for the Brokerage account, then you will have to follow-up with mailing in a signature card, then you will have to authorize a linked account to transfer funds, then after the linking process is verified, then you will have to fund the account, yadda-yadda. Just give yourself about 6 weeks for all this to happen, though you could probably do it in about 4 weeks if you don't dilly-dally about it.

It's really worth it since Schwab gives you the VISA daily exchange rate with no transaction fees and they refund all ATM fees. Cheapest way to get muschi money abroad. The default daily ATM withdrawal rate is $1, 000 so you'll likely need to get that permanently raised because the muschis are indeed very expensive these days. They even pay you some interest on the cash you happen to have in the checking account which is nice too.I think you could get this squared away in a week or less, especially if you show up in person at a Charles Schwab office. I did it by mail and it took a week at most. Just bring a check- that took a couple of days to clear, if you brought cash you might have instant access. Linking a bank account takes a few days. They can overnight the debit card.

[Anaximander]

Ultrahappy,

Thanks for the info, what about fees for seeing the girls (well the ones which will see girls): do they typically charge double?

Thanks,

AX

[Optimist]

For now, one more question: what % of girls at FKKs are bi / will see girls? And do they charge double the usual fee for a couple (I. E. 100eur vs 50)?I believe it to be a very small percentage who are enthusiastically "bi"

However a minority are likely to be willing to do a session with you and your girlfriend (some might want you to wear a condom with your girlfriend) and they will charge (in Hessen) 100euro for the two of you for half hour. Don't pay extra for the worker doing lesbian stuff. In my experience you are more likely to succeed with some of the slightly more mature (in mind) workers.

The one thing your girl must not do is imply to anyone that she will go with a man other than you.

Good luck

[Breadman]

Not sure if this is the norm for the states, but the atm machines I use here are the kind where you push in the card and pull it out for the machine to read (chase). If your money request is denied or the machine isn't working properly you've still got your card in your hand. What happened to me on one of my first trips, the bank machine 'ate' my card. All the atm machines I've used in Europe keep the card inside until your transaction is complete. And it didn't matter that the bank was open and the manager pulled the card out of the machine, he couldn't give it back but had to mail it back to my bank. Luckily I had another atm card with more funds.

A Schwab account is great but they won't issue a duplicate card until you call to report it lost or stolen. Then it takes a day or two for them to get you the card if your oversea's. If you put all your hobby money into a debit card and that gets 'eaten' by the machine your shit out of luck. What Schwab will do (and which I've done) is issue two seperate debit cards that can be linked. Lose one card, simply go online and transfer the funds from one card to the other. Its also nice to do two seperate withdraws and not have to worry about cash for several days. Keep both cards seperate, one in your wallet and one in your luggage.

[UltraHappy]

I have a trip coming up soon, any short term solutions?Sorry non-Americans. This information is only relevant to our American-based forum members since these accounts are not generally available to non-Americans. So please skip this post if you're not in the States.

Yes PL, another option is the Capital One 360 Online Checking Account:

https://home.capitalone360.com/online-checking-account

(formerly ING Direct). They also have no foreign transaction fees but unlike Schwab, they will not refund any ATM fees that the foreign bank charges for withdrawing from their ATM). So Schwab is still your best bet but this account can be set up faster because they mail you your ATM card as soon as you apply online and set up your online profile. You can start linking and funding the account concurrently with the mailing of your ATM card. That is, unlike Schwab, you don't have to complete the funding of your account before they will mail you the ATM card. Their whole process takes 7-9 business days according to their representatives (because your ATM pin arrives separately 1-3 days after your ATM card). I don't have one of these accounts but I have heard this account recommended by other frequent travelers.

As Breadman notes, you may be able to expedite the Schwab process by visiting a branch but I have no experience with that.

Also, if you have a military affiliation (yourself or a family member) , another option is USAA online checking. This used to be open to everyone regardless of military affiliation about a year ago but they've restricted this feature to only folks with military affiliations now. USAA still has a foreign transaction fee of 1% but that's still better than most cards that charge 3 percent. USAA has exceptional customer service also. I use them as my backup ATM card that I leave in the hotel safe. So, if anything happens to my Schwab card, I will have to pay a 1% foreign transaction fee on all my muschi money for the remainder of that trip.

Keep in mind that you can use your Schwab ATM card like a VISA card to pay for hotel and other stuff also to avoid the usual 3% foreign transaction fee on credit card purchases. But do NOT use this to pay for your car rental as this card does not include rental coverage. For credit card rental coverage, I am using a regular credit card that offers rental car coverage to avoid paying the car rental insurance but I am still paying that stupid 3% foreign transaction fee every time I rent a car. Oh well.

[UltraHappy]

Ultrahappy,

Thanks for the info, what about fees for seeing the girls (well the ones which will see girls) : do they typically charge double?

Thanks,

AXYou should never pay extra for taking two girls to the room at the same time if you're not expecting them to do a lesbi show or kiss each other or go down on each other. That is, if you are the only one they are servicing (that is, if they're not "servicing" each other) , then normal rates apply.

So, if you take two girls to the room for half an hour, you pay each girl 50 Euros (plus extras) as you normally would.

If you take two girls to the kino and they each take turns blowing you for a total of 30 minutes, then you pay each 50 Euros (plus extras). This is actually less work for each girl, so it doesn't make sense to pay extra in this case.

Now, if you ask a girl to service you AND your girlfriend, that's a different story. My understanding is that the girl will ask for more in this case if she offers this service (usually double but you can probably talk her into accepting some smaller amount as a "tip"). I have never done this because I am more interested in interacting with each girl myself. I don't care at all about seeing them do stuff to each other. Just me. Maybe when I become more of a "dirty old man" later in life, I will pay for this sort of stuff.

Sometimes I pay girl number 1 just for sitting in the room with me with girl number 2 because I don't want another monger to steal girl number 1 while I am off doing girl number 2. But I normally only do this when I am renting girl number 1 for the whole night. I know this is stupid and a waste of money but sometimes I can't help myself.

[Howie]

Hey guys, I want to bring a FKK hottie to visit me in the US. She being Romanian requires a visa of sorts and in order to process one, she will require an invite from me. Anyone knows how that is done? Thanks. Howie

[Hessen Bub]

Hey guys, I want to bring a FKK hottie to visit me in the US. She being Romanian requires a visa of sorts and in order to process one, she will require an invite from me. Anyone knows how that is done? Thanks. HowieWho are you "importing"? I wanted a club girl to visit me in the States but it was too short notice and it did not work out. Try this page:

http://cdn.ustraveldocs.com/de/de-niv-visaapply.asp

She will have to apply for the visa (Nonimmigrant Visa) online and also there will be an interview. Basically they will try to find out if there's the risk of her trying to come to the US to stay and not go back to Europe. That usually is determined by how strong her roots are in her home country (family, property, job, money).

HB

[Optimist]

It looks like she has to go to Bucharest US Embassy

[UltraHappy]

Hey guys, I want to bring a FKK hottie to visit me in the US. She being Romanian requires a visa of sorts and in order to process one, she will require an invite from me. Anyone knows how that is done? Thanks. HowieYes, everything that HB and Optimist says is correct. For a tourist visa, first, you guys fill out the online DS-160 (you can help her fill it out). It used to be a paper form but now it is all online. Here is an example of one filled out:

http://www.immihelp.com/visas/sample-ds-160-form-us-visa-application.pdf

In the box that asks about dates of travel, you can give approximate dates if you aren't sure the exact travel dates. Don't buy your travel tickets until AFTER the visa is approved.

She has to have photos that strictly meet the US requirements. She can either upload those with her DS-160 (recommended) or bring them with her to her embassy interview.

After filling out the DS-160, she gets a letter, inviting her to an in person interview at the embassy (15 minute interview). The only embassy in Romania where this interview can be done is the one in Bucharest I believe. They ask the sort of questions that HB described. Afterwards, she'll get another letter letting her know if her tourist visa was approved or not.

The backlog for processing tourist visa applications in the Bucharest embassy is almost non-existent. They are supposedly processed very quickly. Nonetheless, it's probably a good idea to get this process started at least 3-4 months before date of travel.

Good luck.

[Beffen1]

Yes, everything that HB and Optimist says is correct. For a tourist visa, first, you guys fill out the online DS-160 (you can help her fill it out). It used to be a paper form but now it is all online. Here is an example of one filled out:

http://www.immihelp.com/visas/sample-ds-160-form-us-visa-application.pdf

In the box that asks about dates of travel, you can give approximate dates if you aren't sure the exact travel dates. Don't buy your travel tickets until AFTER the visa is approved.

She has to have photos that strictly meet the US requirements. She can either upload those with her DS-160 (recommended) or bring them with her to her embassy interview.

After filling out the DS-160, she gets a letter, inviting her to an in person interview at the embassy (15 minute interview). The only embassy in Romania where this interview can be done is the one in Bucharest I believe. They ask the sort of questions that HB described. Afterwards, she'll get another letter letting her know if her tourist visa was approved or not.

The backlog for processing tourist visa applications in the Bucharest embassy is almost non-existent. They are supposedly processed very quickly. Nonetheless, it's probably a good idea to get this process started at least 3-4 months before date of travel.

Good luck.One of my buddies actually did bring a Romanian girl to the US for (multiple) visits, in addition to what you describe, he had to provide all sorts of his own financial information as a guarantee that he would be partially liable if his invitee did not return home per her visa stipulations.

Beffen

[Howie]

Who are you "importing"? I wanted a club girl to visit me in the States but it was too short notice and it did not work out.All,

Thanks for the tips guys.

I will look more into it and see how it goes.

The hottie I'm planning to invite over is one of my new favorites I met recently in GT Vienna. No big rush on dates but probably sometime in late spring or early summer. We'll probably hang out in Miami Beach. The last time I was in Miami, I ended up fucking the Czech porn babe Nessa Devil. Awesome experience. I had one of my best no holes barred sessions ever with her.

Howie

[Smdrr]

Hi fellas,

I will be traveling to FRA at the end of Feb. Beg of Mar and have a Thursday, Friday and a Saturday to delve in to my FKK hobby. I was thinking of skipping Oase as the one time that I was there (and reported here) , didn't have a great experience. Plus I think winter time wouldn't be the best time to that club anyway. I have so far secured World and Sharks. I haven't been to Sharks but read good reports recently. Now the third club, I was thinking something within the proper city area and can't decide between Palace and Mainhattan. I have been to Palace long long time ago and liked it but recent reports have been not that encouraging. I think I am going to like the facilities and diversity of women more in Palace (after a couple nights of gazelle type girls I have no problem spending time with more pro-looking types at Palace) , but am adverse to sharky behavior of the girls recently reported there. Now I don't mind them upselling as much, as I will get extras most of the time anyway, but what I hate in the fact that I have to say no to a girl every 2 minutes and some who don't seem to take no as an answer. I usually try to be friendly and say "not now" or "maybe later" etc, but some girls keep coming back even though they hear the same answer 10 times! Anyway, a long story to ask a few questions. Would appreciate any response to any of the following.

1) Which one Palace or Mainhattan? If Mainhattan girls are as aggressive (outside the room) , then I rather to go to Palace but not otherwise.

2) How to do assign the clubs to days? Anyone of them is particularly better for the Thursday or Saturday say?

3) Any of them offer WiFi within the club?

4) This is a more general question. Are there any clubs that share the showers with the girls? This was a welcome surprise while I was at Globe in Zurich. One of the girls who was showering after the room with a client, was rubbing herself against me in the shower. That was just wonderful!

I will of course report back once the trip is over.

Happy mongering.

[Dufey]

would appreciate any response to any of the following.

1) which one palace or mainhattan? if mainhattan girls are as aggressive (outside the room) , then i rather to go to palace but not otherwise.

2) how to do assign the clubs to days? anyone of them is particularly better for the thursday or saturday say?

3) any of them offer wifi within the club?

4) this is a more general question. are there any clubs that share the showers with the girls? this was a welcome surprise while i was at globe in zurich. one of the girls who was showering after the room with a client, was rubbing herself against me in the shower. that was just wonderful!

i will of course report back once the trip is over.

happy mongering.1. generally, mainhattan girls are not as aggressive as palace girls in hustling guys outside of the room to get them into the room.

2. assigning a particular day to a club depends on your on preferences. saturday i would go to world for the party atmosphere and on a thursday i would choose sharks or maybe mainhattan because i am getting some nice times in those clubs but then again oase on a thursday although a dress day would have an extensive line up of girls to choose from.

3. none of the hessen major sized clubs have wifi although palace has a few internet terminals sited across the club area.

4. none of the major sized hessen fkks have shared showers between male an females. you do get the old girl that may shower in the men's area at world or in public shower areas but that is like really rare and is done our of necessity or need for speed.

i look forward to your upcoming report and i am sure many others here are as well waiting in anticipation of your timely written report.

[Capt Dan]

1) Which one Palace or Mainhattan? If Mainhattan girls are as aggressive (outside the room) , then I rather to go to Palace but not otherwise.

2) How to do assign the clubs to days? Anyone of them is particularly better for the Thursday or Saturday say?I salute your Frankfurt FKK Club selection and offer the following advice in the hope of making your trip even more enjoyable. Hopefully other fellow members will add their opinions.

With regard to whether one should choose Mainhattan or Palace, I would offer the following points.

1. Avoid FKK Palace if (during your visit) there is a big trade fair in town as this club can become a frenzy with the service levels offered by the girls spiralling downwards.

2. FKK Palace has a somewhat greater variation of ethnic types than FKK Mainhattan where Rumanian (and some Bulgarian) hookers predominate.

3. Various hookers are likely to make approaches (hassle you) looking for business for the first hour of your visit to either FKK Mainhattan or FKK World. If you hold your cool these approaches will diminish. If you have much experience of this type of situation (or have any game) my advice is to play with these approaches, have fun, remain cool and polite and don't take things too seriously. Use these approaches as an opportunity to meet with the girls. After this first hour the girls will generally tire of making approaches and you will be left to your own devices and can then make your selection in more tranquility. Of course you can also opt to go to the room for a quickie soon after entering the club should something take your fancy! As long as the girls are pleasant I don't have a problem with them looking for business. Of course some of them can be less than polite if you decline their offer. Remain calm and a gentleman no matter what is said. In my experience you will be hassled in both clubs and probably experience more upselling in FKK Palace. As I tend to go for at least hour long sessions I experience less upselling.

4. I would probaly reserve Friday or Saturday for a FKK World visit. Some of the girls take Thursday off (before the busy weekend) and the lineup can consequently be a little weaker on this day.

5. Not sure if it matters if you visit FKK Mainhattan / Sharks / Palace on Thursday or Friday or Saturday. I visited FKK Mainhattan on a Friday or two before last Christmas and the place was well stocked with Romanian hookers. However do remember that Mainhattan is a smaller club (smaller than Palace and much smaller than Sharks and World) and can consequently seem a little claustrophobic if you are staying for more than a few hours. Of course if you are in the room a lot, this does not matter.

Hope this helps.

CD

[PussyLiccker]

is there a sim card that you buy one time, and you just add funds online to use it whenever you wish? it would be really convenient to just swap out the sim card when i get to germany, and also which store carries it. is it at the duss airport?

preferably the one that has the widest coverage and fastest speeds of course.

[Boomer10]

is there a sim card that you buy one time, and you just add funds online to use it whenever you wish? it would be really convenient to just swap out the sim card when i get to germany, and also which store carries it. is it at the duss airport?

preferably the one that has the widest coverage and fastest speeds of course.one of the girls at bernds convinced me to try alditalk (available at aldi markets) a few months ago and i've been happy with it during my last 2 visits. (http://www.alditalk.de/) once set up (which she did for me (the instructions in german where beyond my poor grasp of the language) , you can purchase air time in 15e increments from the aldi markets (or just about any gas station, it runs on the o2 network-make sure you get those) and after it was setup, adding time was a snap even with my poor german. you get a german phone number and i had no problem getting 3g data connections in the koln area and bernds. it worked fine as a hot spot for my tablet.

prior to alditalk, i was using telestrial (http://www.telestial.com/). it works fine and i've had it for several years and it is very cheap but calling is a little more complicated and my very old sim didn't understand data networks (they offered to sent me a new sim by it wouldn't arrive before leaving on a trip (the one where i moved to alditalk).) you get a british number but the is an option where germany has local connection rates. i've never tried their data plan. adding time can be done on the phone but setting up the account is done on line and they'll send you the sim, so you need a lead time of at least 2 weeks.

i have a samsung g3 mini international (this quad band phone doesn't work on any 4g network) that i use in the us and germany. (i have a straight talk at&t sim for use at home (i think there is a t-mobile sim).)

boomer

[StarletVoyager]

Could you not just buy a dirt cheap pay as you go phone from any outlet once you land in germany. (I use my pay as you go which automatically picks up tmobile germany network.) however if coming from outside the eu my idea sounds the easiest for you. Just an idea.

[Trans Atlantic]

is there a sim card that you buy one time, and you just add funds online to use it whenever you wish? it would be really convenient to just swap out the sim card when i get to germany, and also which store carries it. is it at the duss airport?

preferably the one that has the widest coverage and fastest speeds of course.i don't think any carrier ship sims outside of germany as they require a german address for sim registration. you just have to buy one in person the next time you are in country. real warehouse on am sandbach 30, ratingen sells sims from several carriers. there's also a vodafone shop in the same building. a deutsche bank branch across the street and sparkasse branch is two blocks away. usually, real is my first stop after arriving at dus for both provisions during my stay and euros for the ladies.

the sims in real are regular/micro sims; no nano. if you need nano, bring your own cutter. i'm assuming the vodafone shop should be able to provide a nano sim.

rewe at dus sell refills directly by asking at checkout. no need to look for a refill card. but i don't think they carry sim cards.

[Smdrr]

Thank you Capt Dan, for the thorough response. I fully agree that I should try to have fun with the situation and take it lightly. It hasn't been always my approach but it worked a few times that I tried it. Once in Oase after I managed to dodge a few of the persistent girls and let them down nicely, another girl was impressed and came and started the conversation on how had I managed to be free after all those talks. We ended up in a room and actually had a nice time there partly because I think she felt that I was in control. Anyway, will take this advice for sure for my next visit. I guess I will more likely go to Palace unless something changes in the upcoming weeks.

Also thanks Dufey for the input; I will sure write a report back from my experience. Let's hope it will be a good one.

[PussyLiccker]

is there a sim card that you buy one time, and you just add funds online to use it whenever you wish? it would be really convenient to just swap out the sim card when i get to germany, and also which store carries it. is it at the duss airport?

preferably the one that has the widest coverage and fastest speeds of course.i have a smart phone, i'm interested in sim for data services, not only phone. i want to find a sim i can hold on to, and carry a transaction online before i go to germany to activate it. this would be convenient so i don't have to stop by a shop to activate a new sim every time.


a deutsche bank branch ... euros for the ladies.the transaction rate went up to 3%, and db is no longer offering low rates as of nov / 13, read further down this thread if you are looking for alternatives.

[UltraHappy]

i have a smart phone, i'm interested in sim for data services, not only phone. i want to find a sim i can hold on to, and carry a transaction online before i go to germany to activate it. this would be convenient so i don't have to stop by a shop to activate a new sim every time.with all the german prepaid sim cards, you just buy the sim card once, then add top-ups as needed. the only catch is that some of the sim cards will die after a short period of non-use, typically 3-6 months for most of the major carriers like o2. usually, the independents like mobi, al yildiz, etc will last 12 months of non-use before dying.

with most sim cards, you buy vouchers at any gas station for the correct network. for example, for mobi, you buy vodaphone vouchers. you execute an ssd code on your phone from the voucher you purchase and that "tops up" your account. most of these sim cards work on a monthly basis, for example. 15 euros for 1 month of internet.

me, for short trips, i prefer deutsche telekom's xtra prepaid sim card. the benefit of that card is that it only charges you for the days you use the internet (a small daily rate). calls and texts are per minute and per text. if you used the deutsche telekom card for the whole month, it would be horrendously expensive compared to the other options out there, but for short trips (less than a week) , it's the cheapest option for getting high speed internet. you can top it up at any gas station but instead of buying a voucher, you have to type your phone number on the keypad thingy by the register so that your top-up payment goes to your phone number. another plus is that unlike my other german sim cards, the deutsche telekom sim card works all over europe and indeed all over the world (albeit at expensive roaming prices but at least it gives you a little internet until you are able to crawl to a local phone shop to buy a local sim card in a new country). the disadvantage of the deutsche telekom sim card is that you have to buy it at a deutsche telekom store which are always understaffed. plan to wait half an hour to an hour just to talk to someone to buy the damn card. luckily, you will only have to do that once. after you have the sim card, then you just go to the gas stations to top-up.

whichever card you get, make sure they change the verbal menu to english (that is, the phone number you call to check your balance and change your rate plan, etc).

really, it probably won't matter which prepaid sim card you get. they are all very similar and perform rather well. if you're just there a few days at a time, the deutsche telekom card is a slightly better deal since you're just paying for the days you use instead of the whole month. but, we're not talking about a whole lot of euros difference here.

whenever you get to duss, just run a search on "handy" and "mobile" and "cell phone" in your google maps. since you have t-mobile, you will at least have shitty edge internet until you are able to get a local sim card. you will find lots of places close by. take your pick and just tell the store guy that you just want a cheap prepaid sim card for only internet (you will still be able to make phone calls and texts if needed but unless you plan to talk a lot, it's better not to pay for the expensive monthly plan for calls / texts but pay for those on the more expensive per minute basis). but don't stress over all that math. just tell the dude you just want internet on a prepaid sim card and the phone dude will hook you up.

don't forget to ask which type of vouchers you need to buy at the gas station to top up. and don't forget to make the guy change the menu to english. and don't forget to get the guy to teach you how to check your voice mail for when your tutes are calling you and leaving voice mail messages on your phone.

if the phone dude is trying to sell you a prepaid sim for more than 15 euros, something is wrong. tell the dude, no, you just want the cheap prepaid sim card for just internet -- that's all. don't let him sell you the fancy-pants 25 euro prepaid sim with glitter and sparkles and shit.

[Smdrr]

The disadvantage of the Deutsche Telekom SIM card is that you have to buy it at a Deutsche Telekom store which are ALWAYS understaffed. Plan to wait half an hour to an hour just to talk to someone to buy the damn card. Luckily, you will only have to do that once. After you have the SIM card, then you just go to the gas stations to top-up.Thanks Ulrahappy. This is really great info. A couple of questions. Do you happen to know whether there is a Deutsche Telekom store in Frankfurt airport. Also how long till the SIM card of Deutsche Telekom dies if I don't use it? Thanks.

[Trans Atlantic]

I have a smart phone, I'm interested in sim for data services, not only phone. I want to find a sim I can hold on to, and carry a transaction online before I go to Germany to activate it. This would be convenient so I don't have to stop by a shop to activate a new sim every time.

The transaction rate went up to 3, and DB is no longer offering low rates as of Nov / 13, read further down this thread if you are looking for alternatives.Once you activate the SIM, it should be valid for at least several months without recharge or usage. I know blau.de SIM is valid for a year but no reception in GT and Aca so I'll be looking at Vodafone or T-mobile on my next trip.

You can either have the phones shop activate it for you or if you buy from a supermarket, activate yourself online using google translate if you don't know German. As Ultrahappy said, you can buy recharge vouchers at petrol stations and supermarkets. So once you get your SIM, just stop by Rewe in DUS on your future trips to top up the card.

I've been carrying Schwab debit VISA and Capital One / ING debit Mastercard for years. DeutscheBank, Sparkasse ATMs; they are all the same to me. The two cards varies in rates even when transaction is performed back to back from the same ATM but I think it's due toe VISA vs. Mastercard but both have been less than 1% of interbank rate as reported by oanda. Com. Sometimes VISA is better; other times it is Mastercard.

[PussyLiccker]

Yes PL, another option is the Capital One 360 Online Checking Account:

https://home.capitalone360.com/online-checking-account

(formerly ING Direct). They also have no foreign transaction fees but unlike Schwab, they will not refund any ATM fees that the foreign bank charges for withdrawing from their ATM). So Schwab is still your best bet but this account can be set up faster because they mail you your ATM card as soon as you apply online and set up your online profile. You can start linking and funding the account concurrently with the mailing of your ATM card. That is, unlike Schwab, you don't have to complete the funding of your account before they will mail you the ATM card. Their whole process takes 7-9 business days according to their representatives (because your ATM pin arrives separately 1-3 days after your ATM card). I don't have one of these accounts but I have heard this account recommended by other frequent travelers.What is a typical ATM fee? I didn't see any atm fee show up with my USAA card. Do all banks have ATM fees in Germany?

[Breadman]

what is a typical atm fee? i didn't see any atm fee show up with my usaa card. do all banks have atm fees in germany?you have to remember the exchange rate and the amount you withdrew to figure out how much you where raped.

[Trans Atlantic]

what is a typical atm fee? i didn't see any atm fee show up with my usaa card. do all banks have atm fees in germany?
you have to remember the exchange rate and the amount you withdrew to figure out how much you where raped.no atm fees levied from german atms using us cards as far as i can tell. on a €300 transaction, it's been an average of $1. 75usd over interbank on my schwab / capital one 360 transactions.

considering that us atm operators charge $3 when using an out-of-network atm card, $1. 75 is nothing.

[Max #01]

is there a sim card that you buy one time, and you just add funds online to use it whenever you wish? it would be really convenient to just swap out the sim card when i get to germany, and also which store carries it. is it at the duss airport?

preferably the one that has the widest coverage and fastest speeds of course.in addition to the other advice you've received, is your phone unlocked? that's the only way a sim other than your usa carrier's will work. i have a t-mobile flip phone. i went on-line and bought an unlocking code for $40. it's emailed to you and then you can follow the directions. after you've punched in your code, your phone will be unlocked. darned if i can remember the company i used. just google something like "gsm unlocking code" and several reputable sites will pop up.

before you do any of this, make sure your phone is a "quad" phone, meaning four frequencies. various combinations of them are used in various countries.

i have generally just gone to a cell phone or electronics shop right outside customs. i've got a vodafone card for germany that works great. stick with one of the big companies and you'll do fine. don't bother buying one here in the usa before you leave. they are resellers and sometimes don't work when you get there.

someone else mentioned setting up all the prompts in english. great idea! the kid in the store will be happy to do it for you.

happy mongering! i will be in europe in a week myself. can't wait!

[UltraHappy]

In addition to the other advice you've received, is your phone unlocked? That's the only way a SIM other than your USA carrier's will work. I have a T-Mobile flip phone. I went on-line and bought an unlocking code for $40. It's emailed to you and then you can follow the directions. After you've punched in your code, your phone will be unlocked. Darned if I can remember the company I used. Just Google something like "GSM unlocking code" and several reputable sites will pop up.You don't need to buy an unlock code. You can just contact your carrier to get it unlocked. With T-mobile for example, you just tell them you need to unlock it for travel reasons, and they will send you an email with the unlock code within about 3 days or so. They do this for free, although they only do this a maximum of 2 times in a 12 month period though. The other US carriers work similarly.

[Trans Atlantic]

T-mobile and AT&T will unlock if you are out of contract (or close to it) and you've fully paid for the phone. Verizon phones are incompatible with GSM (so trying to get it unlock is moot) unless it specifically states it is GSM compatible. A Verizon LTE phone with a SIM slot (eg iPhone 5/5s) is already unlocked out of the box due to FCC regulation; no need to call.

[Citizen Kane]

Being a genius, I've managed to book my first ever NRW trip during the first week of the World Cup. I know.

From experience does anyone think this will be a problem? I. E. Not many girls / too many guys.

Looking at the schedule the only real red flag to me would be to avoid GT on Fri 13th for Spain vs Holland. The only other big European matches are England vs Italy Sat 14th and France playing the mighty Honduras on the 15th. Switzerland also play Ecuador on the 15th.

I know the Italians show up in big numbers to the Hessen clubs. Is it the same in NRW?

Any insight would be gratefully received.

[Banana Boi]

avoid GT on Fri 13th for Spain vs Holland.If my math is correct the match starts at 9:00 pm Germany time. When it starts all the men will congregate in the dining room leaving you with all the girls in the main room and outside. There may be a few hours before the game when it's crazy but that's easily solved by hibernating in a room with your favorite girl (s).

[BigBuddy69]

What is the least worst period to go in FKK's during July / August? I have been there two times the last week of August and some of the girls were in vacation. Is it better during the first weeks of July? I can't go in June and in September.

[Breadman]

What is the least worst period to go in FKK's during July / August? I have been there two times the last week of August and some of the girls were in vacation. Is it better during the first weeks of July? I can't go in June and in September.I often visit in May, usually a decent amount of girls and with the weather turning the sights of all those naked girls getting a tan is spectacular. I've visited in August before, yes the lineup's were a bit lower but the rooms could be god awfully hot.

[Max #01]

T-mobile and AT&T will unlock if you are out of contract (or close to it) and you've fully paid for the phone. Verizon phones are incompatible with GSM (so trying to get it unlock is moot) unless it specifically states it is GSM compatible. A Verizon LTE phone with a SIM slot (eg iPhone 5/5s) is already unlocked out of the box due to FCC regulation; no need to call. Also, from Ultrahappy: You don't need to buy an unlock code. You can just contact your carrier to get it unlocked. With T-mobile for example, you just tell them you need to unlock it for travel reasons, and they will send you an email with the unlock code within about 3 days or so. They do this for free, although they only do this a maximum of 2 times in a 12 month period though. The other US carriers work similarly.I asked AT&T weeks in advance of a trip to Australia when my phones were well out of contract. They dragged their feet and I had to get on the plane with locked phones. I finally paid someone to do it in Sydney after I got there. If you meet the criteria described above, I would give yourself enough lead time for the carrier to provide the code. But, I would be prepared to buy it as a back-up plan.

[Breadman]

I asked AT&T weeks in advance of a trip to Australia when my phones were well out of contract. They dragged their feet and I had to get on the plane with locked phones. I finally paid someone to do it in Sydney after I got there. If you meet the criteria described above, I would give yourself enough lead time for the carrier to provide the code. But, I would be prepared to buy it as a back-up plan.I ask tmobile for my unlock code which they provided, unfortunately it didn't work. FYI you only get so many chances with an unlock code before it gets locked. So before you buy a sim card, try unlocking the phone using a friends sim card (if has a competing companys sim).

[BigBuddy69]

I'll spend some time in Germany during May but I'd like to come back during the summer, July or August.

[Forcharles]

I have often picked up a rental car at the Frankfurt airport. There seems to be fees there that might not be charged if the car was rented elsewhere in Frankfurt.

Does anyone have information about a Frankfurt car rental service besides the ones at the airport? Any addresses or companies where I can reserve a car and pick it up, but not at the airport? (I searched the forums and couldn't find answers.)

Thanks in advance.

[CaptRenno]

In anticipation of a 2014 trip to Germany, I'm updating my Google map of Famous FKKs, Saunaclubs & Brothels in Germany.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=216871605351099266306.0004af9bb4e59ff4e013a&msa=0&dg=feature

One club that I added is Paradise World in Saarbrucken, which is supposed to open soon:

http://www.the-paradise-saarbruecken.de/

According to reports, it will be a very large club easily accessible to our friends in France, where the government is trying to pass a Swedish style prohibitionist law on prostitution.

My map shows only the most well-known and frequently reviewed FKK clubs, saunaclubs and brothels in Germany. Before visiting a club, you should do some research and decide which clubs are best for you.

If anyone has suggestions for clubs to add to my map, please let me know. Just remember that my map is a guide to the biggest, most well-known clubs. There is another map out there by "der Monger" that has a much bigger listing of clubs, brothels, etc.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5&dg=feature

[Akibono]

I have often picked up a rental car at the Frankfurt airport. There seems to be fees there that might not be charged if the car was rented elsewhere in Frankfurt.

Does anyone have information about a Frankfurt car rental service besides the ones at the airport? Any addresses or companies where I can reserve a car and pick it up, but not at the airport? (I searched the forums and couldn't find answers.)

Thanks in advance.Both Hertz and Sixt have locations in town that are about 20E cheaper. You can rent there and return to the airport. But a metro ticket costs about 4E. The main train station is also considered a premium location and charges the same fees as the airport.

[UltraHappy]

Both Hertz and Sixt have locations in town that are about 20E cheaper. You can rent there and return to the airport. But a metro ticket costs about 4E. The main train station is also considered a premium location and charges the same fees as the airport.Just keep in mind that it doesn't matter whether you pick up or drop off at the airport, you STILL get charged the premium location fee if you do one or both of those, at least at Sixt.

Sixt. Com and Google can tell you where all of the Sixt locations are. If going to Oase, the most convenient Sixt location is the one in Bad Homburg. Avoiding the premium location fee only makes sense if you're renting for 3 days or more. If not, then the train ticket plus taxi fees (to and from the club) will outweigh the amount you save by avoiding the premium location fee.

[Breadman]

I have often picked up a rental car at the Frankfurt airport. There seems to be fees there that might not be charged if the car was rented elsewhere in Frankfurt.

Does anyone have information about a Frankfurt car rental service besides the ones at the airport? Any addresses or companies where I can reserve a car and pick it up, but not at the airport? (I searched the forums and couldn't find answers.)

Thanks in advance.There's alot of factors that go into how much you pay per day for a rental, location is just one of them. How many days do you usually rent a car? Is it for a full week or partial? Partial rentals are higher (although the weekend specials are fantastic). How they can screw you on one hand and reward you with the other is beyond me. Alot can be said of "what website" you use to do your search's. You should also consider how much money your going to spend on your outing, is saving 20 euro's going to matter if you plan on spending a thousand? Convenience is also important, your time on the ground (if your a visitor to germany) is limited, don't waste it riding a train.

So what's your 'best' rental rate and for how long, type of car etc? Last year I paid 102 euro's per week for a ford fiesta type of car, a small 4 door with unlimited miles (two seperate 2 week rentals).

[Trans Atlantic]

Just keep in mind that it doesn't matter whether you pick up or drop off at the airport, you STILL get charged the premium location fee if you do one or both of those, at least at Sixt.It is actually two separate fees (premium location fee and a one-way fee) and they operate differently.

Picking up at airports (DUS / CGN / FRA) or Frankfurt Hbf will involve the 20% premium location fee. The more expensive the rate / longer you are renting, the higher this fee will be. This fee will be charged based on where you pick up; return location has zero effect on this.

With Sixt, this fee is not charged at Düsseldorf Hbf, Düsseldorf Maritim (right next to DUS) and Köln Hilton Am Dom (right outside Hbf). With Hertz, this is not charged at Düsseldorf Hbf and Köln Hbf.

The one-way fee (per day at Sixt / flat rate at Hertz) is charged whenever return location is different than pickup location.

With Sixt, it pays to recheck the rate on a day to day basis less than 10 days to pickup. They discount the rate lower and lower up until about 2-3 days to pickup when it becomes more expensive.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

It is actually two separate fees (premium location fee and a one-way fee) and they operate differently.

Picking up at airports (DUS / CGN / FRA) or Frankfurt Hbf will involve the 20% premium location fee. The more expensive the rate / longer you are renting, the higher this fee will be. This fee will be charged based on where you pick up; return location has zero effect on this.

The one-way fee (per day at Sixt / flat rate at Hertz) is charged whenever return location is different than pickup location.This is my quote from a January reservation from Sixt. As you can see, the drop-off charge is a one-time charge, not daily;

Pick-up: 17. 01. 2014 12:00 hrs. Drop-off: 30. 01. 2014 09:00 hrs.

Pick-up station: Frankfurt / Main West Drop-off station: Frankfurt Airport.

Mainzer Landstr. 351-353 Hugo-Eckener-Ring / Mietwagenz.

60326 Frankfurt am Main 60549 Frankfurt am Main.

Drivers name: First name:

Second driver: Rate: DEUD5000.

Car group: CDAR Method of payment:

Sample model: Peugeot 307 Aut, Ford Focus Aut.

Rental days: 13 Flight / train no. :

Charge Quantity Single Amount Net Local tax Total Amount.

Rental days (per week) 1 x 114, 33 114, 33 19, 00% 21, 72 136, 05 EUR.

Extra days 6 x 14, 97 89, 82 19, 00% 17, 07 106, 89 EUR.

Drop charge, one way 1 x 7, 56 7, 56 19, 00% 1, 44 9, 00 EUR.

Expected rental price (net) 211, 71 EUR.

Local tax 40, 22 EUR.

Expected rental price (gross) 251, 93 EUR.

Incl. Rate includes all kms.

Tyres suitable for winter.

I also got a quote from Hertz with a pick-up at Cambergerstrasse and drop-off at FRA and the drop-off fee was also Euro 7. 56.

Both Hertz and Sixt have off-airport locations that are very convenient for picking up a car and saving the 20% airport premium fee. They are both near the Galluswarte station on the S line, Hertz being across the street from the station at Cambergerstrasse, and Sixt about 300 meters past it along Mainzerlandstrasse. With the drop-off fee and the train ticket to Galluswarte, it will cost you Euro 13 more to pick-up the car at these locations. It may be worth it depending on how much more than Euro 13 the 20% premium is.

[Syzygies]

In anticipation of a 2014 trip to Germany, I'm updating my Google map of Famous FKKs, Saunaclubs & Brothels in Germany.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=216871605351099266306.0004af9bb4e59ff4e013a&msa=0&dg=featureThanks, that could be handy. I see your Frankfurt locations are pretty accurate. I guess you were too polite to mention "der Monger" made a few mistakes with pins in the wrong place, e.g. World is mislocated on his map, at Watzenborner Stasse, near the "Landgasthof Zum Grünen Baum".
We get used to Google Maps having pins badly located, so its refreshing to see, when yours are accurate.

[Forcharles]

Both Hertz and Sixt have off-airport locations that are very convenient for picking up a car and saving the 20% airport premium fee. They are both near the Galluswarte station on the S line, Hertz being across the street from the station at Cambergerstrasse, and Sixt about 300 meters past it along Mainzerlandstrasse. With the drop-off fee and the train ticket to Galluswarte, it will cost you Euro 13 more to pick-up the car at these locations. It may be worth it depending on how much more than Euro 13 the 20% premium is.This is helpful information. I usually rent a small compact car for about 3 weeks in Germany. At http://www.sixt.de/mietwagen/deutschland/frankfurt-am-main I put in that information for other locations other than the airport and got about the same price. I have to pay USA taxes on top of the rental. The "Premium Location" at the airport is 97 EUR. The total comes to about 28 EUR per day for 20 days, which includes all taxes and liability insurance.

It is convenient to pick up the car at the airport, but this time I need to take the S-Bahn into downtown Frankfurt anyway. I'm just exploring other possibilities. I know there are local and independent car rentals in the Frankfurt area which should be much cheaper. I'll keep looking and if I find something that looks good, I'll post it here.

[Breadman]

Sample model: Peugeot 307 Aut, Ford Focus Aut.

Rental days: 13

Expected rental price (gross) 251, 93 EUR.

Both Hertz and Sixt have off-airport locations that are very convenient for picking up a car and saving the 20% airport premium fee. They are both near the Galluswarte station on the S line, Hertz being across the street from the station at Cambergerstrasse, and Sixt about 300 meters past it along Mainzerlandstrasse. With the drop-off fee and the train ticket to Galluswarte, it will cost you Euro 13 more to pick-up the car at these locations. It may be worth it depending on how much more than Euro 13 the 20% premium is.If I'm reading this correctly you paid 252 euro's for a 13 day trip? Is this for an automatic? Asking because of the 'Aut. ' in your quote. The peugeot 307 is basically the same type of economy car as the fiesta and focus. So you paid 50 euro's more than I did and got one less day rental (compared to my 14 day rental). And I rented from and dropped off at the airport. This proves my point, trying to save by the location of the rental isn't as important as the search you put in to find the cheapest rental website. When you show up to the hertz desk and the girl says "wow, you got an awesome rate" tells it all.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

If I'm reading this correctly you paid 252 euro's for a 13 day trip? Is this for an automatic? Asking because of the 'Aut. ' in your quote. The peugeot 307 is basically the same type of economy car as the fiesta and focus. So you paid 50 euro's more than I did and got one less day rental (compared to my 14 day rental). And I rented from and dropped off at the airport. This proves my point, trying to save by the location of the rental isn't as important as the search you put in to find the cheapest rental website. When you show up to the hertz desk and the girl says "wow, you got an awesome rate" tells it all.Yes, it was an automatic. They are usually 5-8 Euros a day more than manual transmission cars. I use kayak. Com to find rental cars, since they give quotes from the major rental car companies as well as other travel sites like orbitz.com and carrentals.com.

[Breadman]

Yes, it was an automatic. They are usually 5-8 Euros a day more than manual transmission cars. I use kayak. Com to find rental cars, since they give quotes from the major rental car companies as well as other travel sites like orbitz.com and carrentals.com.That's a great rate for an automatic. I also use Kayak but I'll take the time to go thru different websites and even use the airlines links to rental cars since deals are sometimes had via airlines. Also using avis dot com instead of dot de sometimes gives you better rates.

[Trans Atlantic]

If you are booking Sixt, you absolutely have to check rates on sixt.com, sixt.co.uk, and sixt.de. With Hertz, the UK site is generally cheaper than US and German.

[PussyLiccker]

Last time I booked my rental, cheapest rate was from Kayak. I have looked into Sixt and etc. And compared, and I find that Kayak is the cheapest and that's pick-up at the airport. What made a huge difference for me is the time during the day you book and return.

[CaptRenno]

Last time I booked my rental, cheapest rate was from Kayak. I have looked into Sixt and etc. And compared, and I find that Kayak is the cheapest and that's pick-up at the airport. What made a huge difference for me is the time during the day you book and return.Do you mean that you found a cheaper rate for a Sixt car through Kayak than you did on Sixt. Com? Or did you use Kayak to identify a cheaper rate with another company? Kayak is a travel search service-a great way to find alternatives among many companies, but Kayak doesn't rent cars itself.

[PussyLiccker]

So I got a good rate on Kayak. Then I checked on Sixt and Hertz. Checked UK site(1.65 dollar per pound fyi), and also locations that are not airport. Kayak was still better and it was pickup from the airport.

[UltraHappy]

Do you mean that you found a cheaper rate for a Sixt car through Kayak than you did on Sixt. Com? Or did you use Kayak to identify a cheaper rate with another company? Kayak is a travel search service-a great way to find alternatives among many companies, but Kayak doesn't rent cars itself.Yes, depending on the situation, Kayak can indeed offer lower rates on Sixt rentals than Sixt does directly. But I've found that if you're already a Sixt Platinum member due to frequent renting, the rates that Sixt offers you are always lower than Kayak. If you don't already have status with Sixt, Kayak does sometimes offer a lower price for Sixt rentals.

[Trans Atlantic]

Yes, depending on the situation, Kayak can indeed offer lower rates on Sixt rentals than Sixt does directly. But I've found that if you're already a Sixt Platinum member due to frequent renting, the rates that Sixt offers you are always lower than Kayak. If you don't already have status with Sixt, Kayak does sometimes offer a lower price for Sixt rentals.I agree. Platinum comes with a 35% discount.

[Breadman]

Found a good deal on rentalcars. Com thru europacar, was going about booking the car and noticed in the wording an international drivers license might be required. I've never rented from them, always thru hertz and sixt. Never had an issue with hertz or sixt about showing an international license.

http://www.europcar.com/EBE/module/render/General-Rental-Terms-popup


2 PREREQUISITES: WHAT DO YOU NEED IN ORDER TO RENT A VEHICLE?

You must hold and produce a driving licence valid in the country where the rental takes place. The driving licence must have been issued by authorised authorities at least 12 months before the date of the commencement of the rental. In addition to the normal driving licence, an international driving licence is also mandatory if the driving licence is written in a language different to the one of the renting country and / or in characters that can not be read in the renting country. Please note that the international driving licence is valid only if accompanied by the normal driving licence.

[UltraHappy]

Found a good deal on rentalcars. Com thru europacar, was going about booking the car and noticed in the wording an international drivers license might be required. I've never rented from them, always thru hertz and sixt. Never had an issue with hertz or sixt about showing an international license.

http://www.europcar.com/EBE/module/render/General-Rental-Terms-popupAnswered previously here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2589-SC-Golden-Time-Bruggen&p=1518587#post1518587

(posted 12 January 2014)

Executive Summary: You don't need an IDL in Germany if you're American with a valid American driver's license. You will however need it in some of the other European cities.

[Syzygies]

Executive Summary: You don't need an IDL in Germany if you're American with a valid American driver's license. You will however need it in some of the other European cities.We aren't all Americans.

[UltraHappy]

We aren't all Americans.Why not? Get with the program already!

Just kidding.

You're quite right. Everyone is not American.

My study of Breadman's posts suggested a high likelihood that he is American. While I agree that his posts are not dispositive as to his residence, that's what it looked like to me, hence my attempt at being helpful.

If you have additional helpful information on this topic, feel free to contribute. Just trying to share what little info I've previously come across to the extent it might help Mr. Breadman who posted the original question.

[Westside2003]

Answered previously here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2589-SC-Golden-Time-Bruggen&p=1518587#post1518587

(posted 12 January 2014)

Executive Summary: You don't need an IDL in Germany if you're American with a valid American driver's license. You will however need it in some of the other European cities.I just rented a car for a trip in two weeks. I was wondering about this.

[Trans Atlantic]

You generally would not need an IDL if your license is in English; especially in Europe.

[UltraHappy]

You generally would not need an IDL if your license is in English; especially in Europe.For those of you traveling to the "source" (Romania) , you will need an IDL if you're from the States. The car rental agency won't rent to you without an IDL even though Romania is in Europe. So, just beware of this point if you're wanting to rent a car in Romania.

[Syzygies]

For those of you traveling to the "source" (Romania) , you will need an IDL if you're from the States. The car rental agency won't rent to you without an IDL even though Romania is in Europe. So, just beware of this point if you're wanting to rent a car in Romania.Is the "source" a good hunting ground? I would have thought you would meet mainly the prim and proper alter egos of the girls.

[Breadman]

Just trying to share what little info I've previously come across to the extent it might help Mr. Breadman who posted the original question.The original question was about europacar. I've rented from several different agency's but never ran across such a statement from any of the other rental agencies.