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A body can only be accentuated by heels, corset, push-up bra really (aside from surgery, which almost never looks natural). Whereas a make-up artist can easily perform miracles.
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A body can only be accentuated by heels, corset, push-up bra really (aside from surgery, which almost never looks natural). Whereas a make-up artist can easily perform miracles.Hello McAdonis.
So true. Magazines airbrush photos too, making even the body look better than it actually is. Some of the girls in those photos have some natural beauty. The makeup helps tremendously. There are some girls who hardly wear any makeup at all. There is a balance between looks, body type, and personality. If a girl and I click, it is off to the room. If you are visiting clubs, then you don't have to worry. Just leave before morning.
FiddyCent.
Hessen Bub
05-17-14, 16:21
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A body can only be accentuated by heels, corset, push-up bra really (aside from surgery, which almost never looks natural). Whereas a make-up artist can easily perform miracles.So this is you?
http://i.imgur.com/hTZmSh9.jpg
HB.
So this is you?
http://i.imgur.com/hTZmSh9.jpg
HB.Ja, naturlich, haha
Falls on 8/6-9/6 as far as I understand whitsunday / Monday. Does anyone know if public transport and shops etc are running as normal. The reason is that I fly home on 8/6. As far as I can tell some shops closed trains Sunday service. Anyone has more info on this public holiday.In Frankfurt cheaper travel on the trains?
http://www.rmv.de/de/Verschiedenes/Informationen_zum_RMV/Der_RMV/RMV_aktuell/72008/pfingsten-fahrkartenangebot.html
2 questions:
1) i have visited several fkks in the past. i am going again next week and would be the first time driving a car germany. any particular tips about driving in germany? i have my car reservation at hertz and have a gps with europe map with me (living in us now). i hear highways have no speed limit, and the city speed limits are quite clear from what i have seen before.
2) if i have large euro bills and want to break it down to 10's and 20's is the best way going to a bank?
thanks folks!
2 questions:
1) i have visited several fkks in the past. i am going again next week and would be the first time driving a car germany. any particular tips about driving in germany? i have my car reservation at hertz and have a gps with europe map with me (living in us now). i hear highways have no speed limit, and the city speed limits are quite clear from what i have seen before.
2) if i have large euro bills and want to break it down to 10's and 20's is the best way going to a bank?
thanks folks!biggest difference from driving in usa is that you cannot make a right turn when the light is red. also when you are approaching an intersection without a stoplight the car coming from the right side has the right of way. for instance, at a four-way intersection be careful that someone does not careen into your passenger-side door and t-bone you. some people only look to their right--if there is no car coming from that right side to yield to, they will accelerate through the intersection assuming that the car coming from the left will yield.
never carry 500 eur notes. but the fkk front desk changes 100 eur notes for me all the time.
i hear highways have no speed limit, and the city speed limits are quite clear from what i have seen before.
while a large percent of the autobahn does not have speed limits under normal conditions, a lot of the system will have speed limits all of the time and other portions will have speed limits due to weather, construction, etc. be aware that you can go from no speed limit to very low speed limits over a very short distance. watch for the signs (i think germany roads have the best signage in the world) and you'll be ok.
Banana Boi
05-18-14, 20:45
never carry 500 eur notes. but the fkk front desk changes 100 eur notes for me all the time.gt will break 500 euro bills.
trombone, hope this helps. http://www.tourism-heidelberg.com/destination/getting-around/driving/index_eng.html
some quick tips on driving that are different from america. in the city the red lights are on the side of the road, not on an overhang in the middle of the street. no right turn on red lights. get used to right of way on the roundabouts. on the autobahn, never pass on the right, make sure your car is moving pretty quickly and has good acceleration before passing on the far left lane... a car travelling 240 kmh comes up on your ass pretty quickly. beware of construction zones that barely give you enough time to slow down as the speed limit drops from unlimited to 100, 80, 60 in a flash. if you see a big flash it means you just got a ticket. lol
biggest difference from driving in usa is that you cannot make a right turn when the light is red. also when you are approaching an intersection without a stoplight the car coming from the right side has the right of way. for instance, at a four-way intersection be careful that someone does not careen into your passenger-side door and t-bone you. some people only look to their right--if there is no car coming from that right side to yield to, they will accelerate through the intersection assuming that the car coming from the left will yield.
never carry 500 eur notes. but the fkk front desk changes 100 eur notes for me all the time.
while a large percent of the autobahn does not have speed limits under normal conditions, a lot of the system will have speed limits all of the time and other portions will have speed limits due to weather, construction, etc. be aware that you can go from no speed limit to very low speed limits over a very short distance. watch for the signs (i think germany roads have the best signage in the world) and you'll be ok.
gt will break 500 euro bills.
trombone, hope this helps. http://www.tourism-heidelberg.com/destination/getting-around/driving/index_eng.html
some quick tips on driving that are different from america. in the city the red lights are on the side of the road, not on an overhang in the middle of the street. no right turn on red lights. get used to right of way on the roundabouts. on the autobahn, never pass on the right, make sure your car is moving pretty quickly and has good acceleration before passing on the far left lane... a car travelling 240 kmh comes up on your ass pretty quickly. beware of construction zones that barely give you enough time to slow down as the speed limit drops from unlimited to 100, 80, 60 in a flash. if you see a big flash it means you just got a ticket. lolmcadonis, boomer10 and banana boi,
thank you for your useful replies, really appreciate it. i will not go crazy about the speed. i guess i stick to a safe, reasonable speed not over 100 km / h on highways.
Banana Boi
05-19-14, 00:10
i guess i stick to a safe, reasonable speed not over 100 km / h on highways.you're going to get creamed on the autobahn. lol.
OfficeMatt
05-19-14, 02:33
You're going to get creamed on the Autobahn. LOL.Might as well as take the train!
Trans Atlantic
05-19-14, 04:09
mcadonis, boomer10 and banana boi,
thank you for your useful replies, really appreciate it. i will not go crazy about the speed. i guess i stick to a safe, reasonable speed not over 100 km / h on highways.just flow with traffic and you will be fine. if first time driving outside us and not familiar with manual transmission, stick with automatic. the other thing i would emphasize in bananaboi's post would be the roundabouts. they are rare in us but fairly common in europe. vehicles in it have right of way over those outside waiting to enter.
speed limit in a area with buildings/sidewalks is usually 50 km/h if limit not posted. country roads 70-100 km/h; look for posted limits.
lastly stay away from the left lane unless you are passing.
breaking large banknotes - try your hotel.
just flow with traffic and you will be fine. if first time driving outside us and not familiar with manual transmission, stick with automatic. the other thing i would emphasize in bananaboi's post would be the roundabouts. they are rare in us but fairly common in europe. vehicles in it have right of way over those outside waiting to enter.
speed limit in a area with buildings/sidewalks is usually 50 km/h if limit not posted. country roads 70-100 km/h; look for posted limits.
lastly stay away from the left lane unless you are passing.
breaking large banknotes - try your hotel.thank your trans atlantic. i am comfortable with manual transmission. your information is very helpful.
Citizen Kane
05-19-14, 17:22
I hope this is the exception rather than the rule!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgoRNdmhtg
Banana Boi
05-19-14, 17:27
Hilarious CK. Personally never seen a roundabout without at least curbs to indicate there is a roundabout.
Citizen Kane
05-19-14, 17:29
Has anyone tried these yet?
https://www.realfeeldurex.co.uk/
I was thinking about getting a box but since seeing that German Roundabout video I'm slightly concerned that I might not live long enough to use them.
CK.
You actually have a few of those 'unclear' roundabouts near World (in the direction of Linden). The realfeels are better than normal and can match the featherlines. Still nowhere near the real thing though.
Well 18.9%. Today FKK Sakura near Stuttgart has 5 germans and one-half German. Total line up of 29 girls:
http://www.sakura-fkk.com/girls.html?g=0
I have only been with two German FKK girls--neither worth repeating. The rest I never considered sessioning or speaking to because I didn't find them attractive.
Has anyone tried these yet?
https://www.realfeeldurex.co.uk/
I was thinking about getting a box but since seeing that German Roundabout video I'm slightly concerned that I might not live long enough to use them.
CK.I bought some "realfeel" Natural Feeling after Dina claimed to be allergic to latex and these state no latex. So they are my backup in case girl wants to push Londons as latex free (not sure I believe or was a bullshit story). I did not yet test but expect similar to the Gefühlsecht. Will update when actually tested.
Well 18.9%. Today FKK Sakura near Stuttgart has 5 germans and one-half German. Total line up of 29 girls:
http://www.sakura-fkk.com/girls.html?g=0
I have only been with two German FKK girls--neither worth repeating. The rest I never considered sessioning or speaking to because I didn't find them attractive.I have repeated many times with 2 German girls that really were very sexy and GFE. Another girl Cindy in Phoenix Stuttgart was German but part Greek ancestry (one parent I guess). She was vivacious, stunning, active, full on GFE and my overall best girl ever for face, body, and performance. I have met girls who could equal her for body and performance, but not for the face as well. She was just there for the weekend for a bit of fun. She didn't even care about going overtime on the clock. It's 10 years now but still miss her.
My point is don't worry too much about stereo types. If the vibe is good these Germans can be wonderful.
how about good recent experiences? ten years ago didn't 50 eur have a lot more buying power?
there is actually one german girl that i would see regularly a few months ago who could compete with her romanian peers. but that was not at a fkk but a laufhaus in the rld. so for the 30 eur standard. i don't have the time or the budget to sit all day in a fkk.
speaking of stereotypes. the prevailing one amongst romanians is the women do all the work--and the men get to stay home. romanian men seem to be secure enough in their manhood to allow their women to be the breadwinners. not talking about pimps and tutes exclusively, but just in a general sense. either way fkk land is that much richer for it.
How about good recent experiences? Ten years ago didn't 50 EUR have a lot more buying power?
I believe it was 50 Euros per 30 minutes even in 2004. So why all the price whinging now (not directed at you of course)? The girls make less and less in real terms. The number of German girls gets less and less, because it doesn't pay enough any more.
A friend and I are planning to do a cycle / FKK tour in September. Has anyone ever done this?
Among the plans are to ride from Marburg to FKK World, then to Oase. Planning to ride some 50 km per day, keeping it light to retain plenty of energy for the girls, are there other clubs along a pleasant route either before Marburg or after Burgholzhausen that we'd want to consider on our route?
Any help on the board or by private message would be appreciated.
Neutron Flux
05-20-14, 00:10
A friend and I are planning to do a cycle / FKK tour in September. Has anyone ever done this?
Among the plans are to ride from Marburg to FKK World, then to Oase. Planning to ride some 50 km per day, keeping it light to retain plenty of energy for the girls, are there other clubs along a pleasant route either before Marburg or after Burgholzhausen that we'd want to consider on our route?
Any help on the board or by private message would be appreciated.Www dot radroutenplaner dot hessen dot de slash rph_home_01 EN dot asp.
No space between 01 and EN (forum autocorrect).
All the info you need. Some scenic routes but I have little experience cycling in that area of Germany. I'd guess with some research you can plan a nice route to almost any club.
I believe it was 50 Euros per 30 minutes even in 2004. So why all the price whinging now (not directed at you of course)? The girls make less and less in real terms.
I haven't heard any whining about pricing. I believe most complaints fall under two categories: (1) "service levels aren't what they used to be" and (2) "there are too little german girls" and "too many romanians and bulgarians".
The number of German girls gets less and less, because it doesn't pay enough any more.This concise statement buttresses my argument-girls aren't getting paid as well as they used to. If the 30 minute rate went from 50 EUR to 100 EUR, I guarantee we would see an upsurge in German girls. And the service levels would likely improve as well. Do I want that? No because I am happy with the current rates and I am happy with the looks and service levels of the Romanian girls. Mostly I am just tired of people complaining about the lack of German girls. Do people not realize that Germany is an economic powerhouse? And Romania is one of the poorest countries in the EU? It's like people who purchase Ryanair tickets at rock-bottom prices then complain that their is no complimentary champagne served on-board.
The number of German girls gets less and less, because it doesn't pay enough any more.
This concise statement buttresses my argument-girls aren't getting paid as well as they used to. If the 30 minute rate went from 50 EUR to 100 EUR, I guarantee we would see an upsurge in German girls. And the service levels would likely improve as well. Do I want that? No because I am happy with the current rates and I am happy with the looks and service levels of the Romanian girls. Mostly I am just tired of people complaining about the lack of German girls. Do people not realize that Germany is an economic powerhouse? And Romania is one of the poorest countries in the EU? It's like people who purchase Ryanair tickets at rock-bottom prices then complain that their is no complimentary champagne served on-board.Absolutely correct. Very few German / Polish / Czech / Hungarian women are going to work in FKK / Sauna Clubs for 50 per half-hour. The can make good money in other ways; be this in the pay-for-sex business or not. This is why these nationalities no longer supply many of working girls in the clubs. On the other hand, the vast number of Romanian (or Bulgarian) women available to work in FKK / Sauna clubs has dramatically increased over the last 5 years and has consequently kept the price of pay-sex down (which is good) but a consequence of this is the fact that few other nationalities will work for this level of monetary reward (which is not good).
Absolutely correct. Very few German / Polish / Czech / Hungarian women are going to work in FKK / Sauna Clubs for 50 per half-hour. The can make good money in other ways; be this in the pay-for-sex business or not. This is why these nationalities no longer supply many of working girls in the clubs. On the other hand, the vast number of Romanian (or Bulgarian) women available to work in FKK / Sauna clubs has dramatically increased over the last 5 years and has consequently kept the price of pay-sex down (which is good) but a consequence of this is the fact that few other nationalities will work for this level of monetary reward (which is not good).Isn't this the same in most of Western Europe? In other words, doesn't all of Western Europe get its prostitutes from the poorer parts of Eastern Europe? I am not an expert on the London pay-sex scene, but I'd say the British girls are definitely a minority. They are outnumbered by the Polish girls 3-to-1 easily. The UK recently opened its borders to Romania and Bulgaria, so they may displace the Polish girls soon there as well.
I am attracted to girls based on body type, so blond / blue eye features in and of themselves don't add any extra appeal. I wouldn't mind seeing more Middle Eastern and Indian girls. I also find Ethiopian and Eritrean looks very alluring and exotic. But like I said, a girl's body is like 80-90% of the selection process for me, so I could probably pick girls based off their silhouette alone, LOL.
Solo Traveler
05-21-14, 04:13
Absolutely correct. Very few German / Polish / Czech / Hungarian women are going to work in FKK / Sauna Clubs for 50 per half-hour. The can make good money in other ways; be this in the pay-for-sex business or not. This is why these nationalities no longer supply many of working girls in the clubs. On the other hand, the vast number of Romanian (or Bulgarian) women available to work in FKK / Sauna clubs has dramatically increased over the last 5 years and has consequently kept the price of pay-sex down (which is good) but a consequence of this is the fact that few other nationalities will work for this level of monetary reward (which is not good).Why 50€/ half hour are not good enough for German girls?
I mean, if you consider the cost of living and minimum wages around Frankfurt, 50€ is like an amount of money to hire a normal blue-colored labor to work for at least 6 hours!
I know that some mongers are super rich, so they don't care whether it is 50€/ half hour or 100€/ half hour. They still can afford it. They still can go to the club 3+ and fuck 6+ girls every week without worrying their bank account.
But for most mongers, I mean the middle-classed mongers, if the price goes up to 100€/ half hour, it's very likely they are forced to quit the club, and go find another place which is cheaper.
PussyLiccker
05-21-14, 12:47
Any clubs reducing entry beside salome on sun-Mon.?
Banana Boi
05-21-14, 13:40
VV 30€ before 6 pm weekdays. DV 35€ before 2 pm.
Trans Atlantic
05-21-14, 23:56
VV 30 before 6 pm weekdays. DV 35 before 2 pm.
You forgot ACA discount before 1300.
Banana Boi
05-22-14, 00:12
Sorry I was surfing on my phone before but here's a more detailed list of NRW clubs with discounts. Please check the club sites for accuracy on days and times.
ACA 30 euro before 1 pm daily and after 9 pm Sunday to Thursday.
DV 35 euro before 2 pm, 45 euro before 8 pm.
VV Grefath 30 euro before 6 pm Monday to Friday.
FKK Herne (F39/Salome) 30 euro Sunday to Thursday after 8 pm and 35 euro daily before noon.
Penelope 20 euro before 6 pm Monday to Friday.
Ying Yang 50 euro before 2 pm and after 10 pm.
Sixsens 40 euro before 2 pm and after 10 pm.
H7 25 euro before 3 pm.
Finca Erotica 35 euro before 2 pm.
Fun Garden 35 euro before 5 pm.
StarletVoyager
05-22-14, 00:14
British girls are by no means in the minority in this game. in or out of london. Believe it I know sv.
Trans Atlantic
05-22-14, 00:19
British girls are by no means in the minority in this game. in or out of london. Believe it I know sv.Majority of escorts were white British when I was in Manchester several years back. Some pretty hot ones too including a former flight attendant who looks like a younger Elizabeth Hurley who worked for Emirates.
British girls are by no means in the minority in this game. in or out of london. Believe it I know sv.Ok, I stand corrected. I never stayed in London more than 1-2 weeks at a time, so I am by no means an expert. So you can find model quality British girls with good service, OWO at under 200 GBP per hour?
Maybe I was just not looking in the right places. A few seconds ago, I just looked at an agency named Agency Barracuda. And the first eight girls I clicked on were all listed as "Eastern European", "Polish" or one of the old former Soviet countries. From memory, I'd say that one in five times the voice on the other line had an Eastern European accent, so perhaps I just picked agencies run by Eastern Europeans. I didn't really venture too far out and explore. The SoHo walkups didn't seem too appealing. I stuck with the incalls since it is a change of pace from the normal FKK scene that I've grown accustomed to. I browsed the websites of the agencies and the purple site--disqualifying any girls that were unreviewed on the punter forum. Perhaps I have an aversion to British girls and have the tendency to not click on their photos, LOL, because I don't recall coming across many British girls. I did an incall with one white ex-British porn star who was under 150 GBP for the hour. Fake breasts, tall, and thick (but not fat). Can't even remember her name anymore. Off the top of my head, I can only remember one other British girl who piqued my interest visually and had good reviews-She ended up cancelling, but had it went as scheduled, it would have burned a whole in my pocket!!
StarletVoyager
05-22-14, 02:23
Check manchester and milton keynes massage parlours plenty hot brit chick flicks. Nowhere near as good as oase and the like though.
Trans Atlantic
05-22-14, 03:43
Manchester is definitely cheaper than London and I think the hobby capital of UK.
Model quality white English roses were about £120-£130/ hr 2-3 years ago. Looks like current rate is £150-£160/ hr. I looked at http://www.mckescorts.co.uk and http://www.manchester-elite.co.uk. On the massage scene, Sandy's Superstar is pretty popular - http://www.sandyssuperstars.com/.
I found the escort scene higher quality than the massage scene. The girls at Sandy's are high volume. The white Brits I met on the escort scene were white collar professionals during their day jobs and moonlighting for spending cash at night.
Manchester is definitely cheaper than London and I think the hobby capital of UK.
Model quality white English roses were about 120-130/ hr 2-3 years ago. Looks like current rate is 150-160/ hr. I looked at http://www.mckescorts.co.uk and http://www.manchester-elite.co.uk. On the massage scene, Sandy's Superstar is pretty popular - http://www.sandyssuperstars.com/.If one can get to FKKs the British scene is overpriced, poor service, unpleasant environments, full of minor fraud, and I suspect more tainted with unpleasant working conditions for the girls. All the product of the legal problems surrounding the work.
TA correctly identifies two of the most reliable and decent outfits.
Hessen Bub
05-22-14, 07:59
Ehh. This is the General Info thread on German FKK and not British Escort or apartments.
HB.
Ehh. This is the General Info thread on German FKK and not British Escort or apartments.HB.That's what my post was trying to indicate but I suffer from a surfeit of diplomacy :D
Neurosynth
05-22-14, 17:57
Anyone know where Alexa went? She seems to not be at Oase any more. She's hard to miss...tiny girl with that "barely legal" look...doesn't look Asian per se, but if you know you can see it in the shape of her face and her eyes a bit. I posted a couple pictures of her in the Oase thread yesterday.
Anyone know where Alexa went? She seems to not be at Oase any more. She's hard to miss...tiny girl with that "barely legal" look...doesn't look Asian per se, but if you know you can see it in the shape of her face and her eyes a bit. I posted a couple pictures of her in the Oase thread yesterday.Yes it's like 90% Romanian, 10% Thai so hardly anyone would guess there is officially 50% Thai. Does not look Thai. Does not even speak Thai.
Nice girl but a bit too short for me.
Hessen Bub
05-23-14, 17:28
but I suffer from a surfeit of diplomacy :DI don't. LOL.
HB.
Neurosynth
05-23-14, 19:15
Yes it's like 90% Romanian, 10% Thai so hardly anyone would guess there is officially 50% Thai. Does not look Thai. Does not even speak Thai.
Nice girl but a bit too short for me.Yep that's her. I've been with her 3 or 4 times and she's always been great. She's especially good if paired with the right other girl for a 3-way. Remains very active and engaged even if you are banging the other girl.
I assume you don't know where she is at this point?
Hi guys,
I am contemplating a 3 day tour in August, please guide if I should go to NRW or Hessen area, and which clubs to go.
My preferences are for good looks as well as service. Don't mind girls approaching customers. I like foreplay in public before going to the room. Prefer to stay in one club for entire day or two at the most, as I like to relax and take it slowly.
Please inform as to which clubs are 50/25/25/25 or 50/25/50/25 or 50/50/50.
Is hiring a car a good option or public transport would do fine?
If hiring a car, are there any gas stations / rest places on the highways in Germany where one can sleep overnight, something very basic?
Thanks for the help.
Anybody have experience with Ltur.com? Frankfurt-Dusseldorf one-way is only 26 EUR. The catch is you must book 2-6 days in advance. No exchange / refund. Was wondering if there is another catch? Seems like 26 EUR price is standard. Stuttgart-Dusseldorf and Munich-Dusseldorf is also 26 EUR. Those cover the double the distance of Frankfurt-Dusseldorf.
Hi guys,
I am contemplating a 3 day tour in August, please guide if I should go to NRW or Hessen area, and which clubs to go.
My preferences are for good looks as well as service. Don't mind girls approaching customers. I like foreplay in public before going to the room. Prefer to stay in one club for entire day or two at the most, as I like to relax and take it slowly.
Please inform as to which clubs are 50/25/25/25 or 50/25/50/25 or 50/50/50.
Is hiring a car a good option or public transport would do fine?
If hiring a car, are there any gas stations / rest places on the highways in Germany where one can sleep overnight, something very basic?
Thanks for the help.I think I am the right person to answer this because I have already asked this questions and tested and saw the results.
If you like foreplay you should definitely choose Hessen because you have Oase in your hand. Samya in NRW is also a good option for a lot of foreplay but it will never give you the dark magic of Oase.
Hiring a car and drive it to the FKK clubs that you normally don't know is as much as pleasurefull to fck a ten in a FKK. You can prefer car2 go and reduce costs. Taking the car on the airport or leaving it there is a lot of expense depends on what type of car you hire.
For gas stations there is a very good one close to Cologne and most of them I guess very high quality. I drunk a coffee on the one who has a Mccafe and a very friendly lady served it to me on 6:00 in the morning. You can sleep there.
Regards.
BTW the question that I ask in Lounge and Chat area not replied so I ask here again.
I am in between Berlin or Fra.
I will have a 3 days visit to Germany for 13-15 June.
I will have two Fkk visits.
If I had a week I would definitely choose Fra but just for two visits maybe it's better to choose the best one.
Neutron Flux
05-26-14, 01:44
BTW the question that I ask in Lounge and Chat area not replied so I ask here again.
I am in between Berlin or Fra.
I will have a 3 days visit to Germany for 13-15 June.
I will have two Fkk visits.
If I had a week I would definitely choose Fra but just for two visits maybe it's better to choose the best one.This has been discussed many times and noone can give you a definite answer. Both areas have pros and cons and their fans. I am semi-frequently in both areas mostly for work and if it was just for the FKKs I would go FRA, for everything else Berlin, but that's just me, some guys love Artemis.
I will be visiting Munich for the first time and want to go to one of the FKK. Need a few ideas and suggestions. I plan on driving to northern Italy from Munich. Are there any places in northern Italy or southern Austria on route from Munich?
During my week long stay, I will be going to ingolstadt. I plan on going to Hawaii when I am there. I'm one of the previous days, I have about 6-8 hours to kill. Should I bother driving to Ausburg or repeat Hawaii?
I will have a car the entire time, so that should make things easier. However, this will be my first time driving in Germany. And my first time visiting a FKK club.
StarletVoyager
05-26-14, 20:50
Forget hawaii you should goto fkk colosseum augsburg very close to munich and much better.
Hessen Bub
05-26-14, 21:07
YMMV. I prefer Hawaii over ColA. And it is only about 10 km further away from Munich city center.
HB.
Maybe I can do both! I did plan on going to two of them, so these two should be set then.
Wondering if there's anything south of Munich that I could go to on my way to Merona, Italy.
I bought some "realfeel" Natural Feeling after Dina claimed to be allergic to latex and these state no latex. So they are my backup in case girl wants to push Londons as latex free (not sure I believe or was a bullshit story). I did not yet test but expect similar to the Gefhlsecht. Will update when actually tested.I tested the "real feel" Durex non latex condoms. They are in gold foil instead of Gefühlsecht red foil. Very similar shape and ease to get on or off. Feeling was indeed excellent. At times checked to make sure condom still on. Possibly may require slightly more lube. I use Ritex Aqua if girl has none. O k some girls need no lube. Cindy.
I will continue to get these "real feel " condoms. I really hate Londons. Too tight too thick.
Hessen Bub
05-28-14, 12:28
Wondering if there's anything south of Munich that I could go to on my way to Merona, Italy.Where is Merona? Verona?
In Munich there's FKK Sunshine. And in Kufstein (Austria) there's FKK Atlantis. In Innsbruck: Circolo Passion.
Never been to any of these.
HB.
Wondering if there's anything south of Munich that I could go to on my way to Merona, Italy. If you go through Vienna, then Goldentime is worth a visit. It is comparable in size and character to Mainhatten in Frankfurt, maybe a little smaller. I haven't been there in a few years, but it's a good club. There are also FKK clubs in Zurich. Admittedly though, neither city is on the way to Italy from Munich. But they might be worth a detour. On the other hand, maybe you should plan your trip to range further afield in Germany. The best FKK clubs are concentrated in the region between Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. You don't find them all over Germany, though you can find brothels in most parts of Germany.
TankTank123
06-01-14, 04:17
Wondering if there's anything south of Munich that I could go to on my way to Merona, Italy. If you mean Merano, then you will pass through Innsbruck. There is a good, new modern FKK there called Circolo something. I spent just 1 hour there last year as I was in transit. I found one decent girl for a quickie. It is not really worth a quickie as the entrance fee is very high. I can't recollect much though, as I had spent the 2 preceding days at FKK Colosseum and images of that visit has overwhelmed any memories I might have of the quickie at Circolo.
As far as I know, Italy has no FKKs, so you should get all the enjoyment you can in Munich and Austria. Nearest Austrian town to Munich is Salzburg. You can try Mystic or Casa Juvavum (see my post in Salzburg thread last year) there.
I am looking for some quick info if anyone could help. My trip is finally here and I will be in the Frankfurt area this week. Starting on wed through next Monday. For the experienced guys here what would you do with your time, and I am talking straight fkk the whole time. I have read back 50+ pages in most every sub forum here so I am not totally clueless looking for info. From research I have in order world, oase and sharks, maybe mainhatten. I have already read thurs for world is not that great because wed is a good day / night. Then on to Fri. / sat and what to do. I have read it shouldn't matter and I won't let it bother me but I am spending some serious cash and would like to get it right. World Fri. And Oase sat or should I stick sharks instead of oase? Then maybe some help for Sunday?
I will report back as I go to the clubs each night so maybe my info can help someone in their future. I have done more then my share of research and from the extensive info here I won't have a bad time no matter what but I would just like the best if possible. A few things that might help, I like tall (or short, LOL) slim girls with any size breast and I would def prefer dfk during my sessions. I usually stay away from extras and 30 min sessions are fine with me. I like to try a lot of girls. From research it seems like I like girls like Syz likes. I will have a car so anything is possible. I also will take public trans if possible so I can have a few beers.
Thanks in advance for anyone that helps.
Brazil Specialist
06-02-14, 15:08
Maybe I can do both! I did plan on going to two of them, so these two should be set then.
Wondering if there's anything south of Munich that I could go to on my way to Merona, Italy. Austria has lots of FKK and other providers, especially near the border to Italy, where prostitution became illegal.
There is Andiamo in Villach in Kärnten state, a bit off the route South from Munich. Check if it is on the way to YOUR Italian destination.
And there are Options in Innsbruck, straight on the way. Salzburg also is off the path.
Brazil Specialist
06-02-14, 15:18
FRA is a big *house. You go onto a city tour bus and pass various buildings with HUGE letterings several floors high "Eros Center" You can not miss them.
You can keep busy for days on end.
I stay long term in Berlin and find it worth to go to FRA. Artemis is only good if you like highly siliconized pros. I like young fresh natural next door types.
Near Munich also is no comparison to FRA.
Zuerich is the best, if you are willing to buy twice the price. By the way, to the other questioner, Zuerich is South of Munich and potentially on the way to Italy.
Can anyone tell me the quality differences between the different places? FRA vs. Cologne, Duesseldorf. Which is better? Equal?
An how do these compare to Austria, Vienna? For my taste, as described above?
BTW the question that I ask in Lounge and Chat area not replied so I ask here again.
I am in between Berlin or Fra.
I will have a 3 days visit to Germany for 13-15 June.
I will have two Fkk visits.
If I had a week I would definitely choose Fra but just for two visits maybe it's better to choose the best one.
FRA is a big *house. You go onto a city tour bus and pass various buildings with HUGE letterings several floors high "Eros Center" You can not miss them.
You can keep busy for days on end.
I stay long term in Berlin and find it worth to go to FRA. Artemis is only good if you like highly siliconized pros. I like young fresh natural next door types.
An how do these compare to Austria, Vienna? For my taste, as described above?Personally I don't want to extend this comparison to Zurich or Vienna.
If we focus the Berlin or FRA concept again I think another point of view is economics.
Artemis must still be the entrance fee of 80.
When I was there, (it was my first time in a FKK) I really didn't care about the entrance fee because I was staying next to a mongering paradise so I didn't even questionaire.
But after my 1 week NRW visit and after I have seen 50 and 30 entrance fees, I started to think about it. Also the session price was 60 and I don't remember the one hour price and it's 75 in most FRA or NRW clubs.
So a brief estimation gives;.
Artemis for two visits;.
80 x2 entrance fee=160.
60 x9=540.
Total:700.
Sharks or World or Oase for two visits;.
60 x2=120 (I have assumed an average entrance fee by considering discounts).
50 x9=450.
Total:570.
And the difference makes 170 and this is a considerable amount so the question here is Artemis worth the 170 extra cost.
I don't even include that extra price of Berlin flight and one hour session price increases.
Note: I know this issue is discussed many times here but is there anyone here to tell me what word to search for finding this discussions?
......... For the experienced guys here what would you do with your time, and I am talking straight fkk the whole time. I have read back 50+ pages in most every sub forum here so I am not totally clueless looking for info. From research I have in order world, oase and sharks, maybe mainhatten. I have already read thurs for world is not that great because wed is a good day / night. Then on to Fri. / sat and what to do. I have read it shouldn't matter and I won't let it bother me but I am spending some serious cash and would like to get it right. World Fri. And Oase sat or should I stick sharks instead of oase? Then maybe some help for Sunday?
I will report back as I go to the clubs each night so maybe my info can help someone in their future. I like tall (or short, LOL) slim girls with any size breast and I would def prefer dfk during my sessions. I usually stay away from extras and 30 min sessions are fine with me. I like to try a lot of girls. From research it seems like I like girls like Syz likes. I will have a car so anything is possible. I also will take public trans if possible so I can have a few beers.
Thanks in advance for anyone that helps. I see nobody has replied. I think it is because it is impossible to help very much as it all depends on who is where when, how you feel, and your own tastes. I would suggest that you start at World on Wednesday after 15.00 and then see how it goes (the sort of girls Syz and I like should be there in sufficient numbers as well as the larger sorts) It may be you love or hate it. If you want to go back Thursday (if you are there on Wednesday you can ask any girls you like if they are there Thursday). if there are girls you like on Thursday and you are repeating then they will be more relaxed about timing as they will not be very busy. However if you like a very party style night then go on Friday or Saturday instead and start with Sharks or Oase on Wednesday.
You say you will use public transport. The downside of that is that it makes it difficult to see two clubs in one day. For example Friday would be a good idea to do Sharks and Oase. Saturday Mainhatten and then whatever club you have grown to like.
All a matter of taste and luck. Hope that helps a little.
I like young fresh natural next door types.And which is the club you recommend for these types?
I'm always amazed at the guys with serious cash but don't bother spending $20 to get the PM function. Guys are more apt to provide guidance thru private messages than clogging threads over and over.
PussyLiccker
06-03-14, 13:34
FRA is a big *house. You go onto a city tour bus and pass various buildings with HUGE letterings several floors high "Eros Center" You can not miss them.
You can keep busy for days on end.
I stay long term in Berlin and find it worth to go to FRA. Artemis is only good if you like highly siliconized pros. I like young fresh natural next door types.
Near Munich also is no comparison to FRA.
Zuerich is the best, if you are willing to buy twice the price. By the way, to the other questioner, Zuerich is South of Munich and potentially on the way to Italy.
Can anyone tell me the quality differences between the different places? FRA vs. Cologne, Duesseldorf. Which is better? Equal?
An how do these compare to Austria, Vienna? For my taste, as described above?I personally think Zurich is not better. I don't think the more than twice the German rate is worth it. I'm talking about Globe. The club is small, and I've witnessed limited girls, and punters that show up most likely do not go to the room as often as in Germany since that rates are much higher. This probably means the girls do not make consistant income, and will opt for other clubs to work like Germany. I have read reports of girls that show up in Germany that has worked in Globe. I was curious why they would show up to Germany after working for a club where they can get paid more, and now I know. The day I was there, the line-up was smaller and could not match even Sharks. Ok, possibly there are good days, but would I want to take a gamble for a place that has high entry, and not many options in the are if I wanted to bounce? It's the last time I do Zurich.
Same for Vienna, there are not that many options compared to Germany. The two top clubs I visited in Vienna, were no different from German clubs as they were full of Romanians. Matter a fact, Germany has more variety with the Germans in the clubs, and other ethnicities. GT, entry is 90, and each session is 60. For that rate, I would have wider variety of girls to pick at Artemis. In terms of optics, you have number of clubs to hit at the NRW or Hessen, and statistically, you should run into more girls to your liking. GT isn't special, from what I saw, there is no, this club only has hot girl thing going, it's just full of inexperience young girls as most of them has worked in Vienna only. Same girls, less service than Germany. It was surprising to run into girls that tries to put a condom on for BJ, and I don't even know if DFK can be found. In Germany, you have much better odds. Romanians look for work, they will look for many places, whether it be Vienna, or Acapulco, or Sharks.
I personally prefer to punt at the NRW as I feel I have better luck with girls that I find attractive and provides the service I need. I like the entry pricing as some clubs you can enter as low as 30e, and the rates(75 per hour or 80, it's great for extended sessions, 25cim or 50 anal if you can find them). And most of the clubs at NRW have great food(GT and LR, and all you can drink varieties of beer). Clubs like GT and LR, you get in return lots for club entry. And for some, atmophere is preferable as some of them have a living room feel to the interior. I witnessed extended prezimmer seem more common with the exception of GT of course. I find less professional type atmosphere or interactions with the girls at the NRW, ignoring GT(although I find some girls I click with here from time to time, ignoring the professional types in this club). What is good about Hessen is the clubs and the line-up is bigger. This doesn't mean bigger equates to higher percentage of quality for us all. The turn-over is higher at the NRW, every time I visit, there are new girls or girls I've not seen before, and therefore keeps me interested. I like to switch it up more often, so NRW does it for me. There are a group of guys rent car and drives around NRW only looking for girls. And there are guys that sticks to Hessen for the most part. It's just preference. If you are fresh into German FKK, I would recommend Hessen, as clubs are easily accessible, and the line-up has quantity. If you get tired of Hessen, check NRW or Artemis. I don't check out Artemis much since, I don't have 2nd or 3rd options if Artemis is not good.
I personally think Zurich is not better. I don't think the more than twice the German rate is worth it. I'm talking about Globe. The club is small, and I've witnessed limited girls, and punters that show up most likely do not go to the room as often as in Germany since that rates are much higher. This probably means the girls do not make consistant income, and will opt for other clubs to work like Germany. I have read reports of girls that show up in Germany that has worked in Globe. I was curious why they would show up to Germany after working for a club where they can get paid more, and now I know. The day I was there, the line-up was smaller and could not match even Sharks. Ok, possibly there are good days, but would I want to take a gamble for a place that has high entry, and not many options in the are if I wanted to bounce? It's the last time I do Zurich. I have talked to quite a few girls working in Germany who have also worked in Switzerland. They too have confirmed that they do not necessarily make more money there, despite the higher prices. Less sessions, so it balances out. I guess it is the same for girls working in Acapulco, Club Penelope, FKK Dietzenback, Venus Villa etc, who fuck for €40, €30 or even (Club Penelope) €25 for a session. Even though many of these girls have experience working in the more usual €50 per session places, and yet still seem to earn similar amount in the cheaper clubs.
One major advantage (too me) for the Hessen clubs compared with the bigger NRW clubs is that the girls are naked. Not important for all guys, but for me it is major part of the enjoyment. When I am at Acapulco I still find myself staring at those girls who wander across the floor totally naked straight after a session, before cleaning up and getting their bikini / underwear back on. Naked girls just provide (IMO) a much better atmosphere and visuals between sessions.
I have talked to quite a few girls working in Germany who have also worked in Switzerland. They too have confirmed that they do not necessarily make more money there, despite the higher prices. Less sessions, so it balances out. I guess it is the same for girls working in Acapulco, Club Penelope, FKK Dietzenback, Venus Villa etc, who fuck for 40, 30 or even (Club Penelope) 25 for a session. Even though many of these girls have experience working in the more usual 50 per session places, and yet still seem to earn similar amount in the cheaper clubs.
It doesn't cancel out for the top earners. There are girls in Globe making CHF40 k + per month, but it depends on the girl. The working conditions are harsher / stricter than in Germany, and they only accept that in the hopes of making serious coin.
I know of one Romanian girl that has worked at both Golden Time clubs, Globe, and Living room. She admitted that she made more at Globe, but the earnings gap wasn't so singnifcant that she would go back to Globe. She seemed to imply that there was more bullshit to deal with beyond just height / weight requirements. She mentioned that she didn't like the management at the other clubs, but insisted that she left on each club on her own terms. Hearing from others, it seems like more girls go towards Switzerland than in the reverse direction. Even if a girl makes slightly less after moving to an expensive Swiss club like FKK Globe or Bumsalp, many are fine with it, because their muschis take less of a pounding.
You say you will use public transport. The downside of that is that it makes it difficult to see two clubs in one day. For example Friday would be a good idea to do Sharks and Oase. Saturday Mainhatten and then whatever club you have grown to like.
All a matter of taste and luck. Hope that helps a little. I don't understand why you would need to do two clubs in one day. Its a waist of entry fees. Friday should have enough good girls at either Oase or Sharks. I fail to see why its necessary to do both. Maybe some guys want a lot more fucks per day than I can manage.
Last Saturday World had probably a 100 girls and I could find 10 or more doable and far less I could actually do. Its too much effort to go to two clubs in one day, in addition to loss of extra entry fee. I also don't think it is necessary to try every club. There are so many clubs in Germany and so many girls in each club (at least the big Hessen clubs have lots). Its not possible to do them all.
If you don't like a club and the girls, fine. Move on. If you already are having a fabulous time, why change too much? "The grass is always greener on the other side" Maybe not. There are certain patterns in clubs to be aware of though. E. g. Palace has a high percentage of siliconised girls, which is not so interesting to me, and more upsell from the girls, I. E. "You want to pay for kissing? Maybe World (particularly) and Sharks have highest percentage of slim girls (despite many big girls too) and of small tits.
I don't understand why you would need to do two clubs in one day. Its a waist of entry fees. Friday should have enough good girls at either Oase or Sharks. I fail to see why its necessary to do both. Maybe some guys want a lot more fucks per day than I can manage.
Last Saturday World had probably a 100 girls and I could find 10 or more doable and far less I could actually do. Its too much effort to go to two clubs in one day, in addition to loss of extra entry fee. I also don't think it is necessary to try every club. There are so many clubs in Germany and so many girls in each club (at least the big Hessen clubs have lots). Its not possible to do them all.
If you don't like a club and the girls, fine. Move on. If you already are having a fabulous time, why change too much? "The grass is always greener on the other side" Maybe not. There are certain patterns in clubs to be aware of though. E. g. Palace has a high percentage of siliconised girls, which is not so interesting to me, and more upsell from the girls, I. E. "You want to pay for kissing? Maybe World (particularly) and Sharks have highest percentage of slim girls (despite many big girls too) and of small tits.I agree. The only reason to do two clubs is if the first of them is no good, or maybe, if a person is a newcomer to an area (this is why I mentioned it to SevenIron), it is good to check out a few clubs quickly. Personally I normally stay in one club (World usually) because I like the better service one gets if the girls know you are not a fly by night.
Can someone throw in some input to what clubs I should visit this Fri.-sat? I was thinking Sharks Fri. And maybe oase or world on sat. Should I switch that up and go oase tonight on Friday and world or sharks tomorrow? I am mainly looking for the club with the most optics and I like quantity also, can anyone inform me if sharks on a Friday night has anywhere near 100 girls?
Thanks for anyone that helps.
Neutron Flux
06-06-14, 18:50
Can someone throw in some input to what clubs I should visit this Fri.-sat? I was thinking Sharks Fri. And maybe oase or world on sat. Should I switch that up and go oase tonight on Friday and world or sharks tomorrow? I am mainly looking for the club with the most optics and I like quantity also, can anyone inform me if sharks on a Friday night has anywhere near 100 girls?
Thanks for anyone that helps.Yes, that's fine. Numbers and quality on Fri and Sat night won't differ much at either Oase or Sharks. Maybe Sat night is slightly more popular at Oase with mongers and girls since it s more remote than Sharks and beause of the cocktail night special. Yes, somwehere near 100, at least closer to 100 than to 0.
Hi Seniors.
Need expert advise here as am totally confused.
I am contemplating a 3 day trip in August, need advise as to if NRW would be a better option or Hessen area.
I like public action, foreplay before entering the room. A difficult to obtain combo of great Optics and service, if possible. Don't prefer too skinny type girls.
My choices seem to be the following because of public transport option, please advise if other clubs can be a good option.
NRW.
Samya Acapulco Mondial HausPanthera Dolce Vita.
Hessen.
World Sharks Oase, one day each. Mainhattan.
Is it possible to arrive at these clubs at earlier times, say 8/9 am, and rest in the waiting area or something like that?
Precise help and info would be highly appreciated.
Thanks a lot!
Indimann
Banana Boi
06-07-14, 17:21
I like public action, foreplay before entering the room. A difficult to obtain combo of great Optics and service, if possible. Don't prefer too skinny type girls.
My choices seem to be the following because of public transport option, Based on your criteria, Frankfurt is your better option.
Maybe Sat night is slightly more popular at Oase with mongers and girls since it s more remote than Sharks and beause of the cocktail night special. Oase is more remote than Sharks? That is a confusing thing to say. Okay Its more out in the countryside than Sharks, but I hardly see how that is relevant to the choice.
Oase is closer to Frankfurt city in distance than Sharks which makes it a cheaper taxi ride. Just in case any one is confused. From the airport, the distances have a bit less difference.
Is there anyone here can tell me about how many girls will be in the clubs for a typical Sunday, Monday and Tuesday day and night in clubs Oase, Sharks and World and Palace?
BR.
Hessen Bub
06-08-14, 15:23
More than you can fuck. LOL.
HB.
More than you can fuck. LOL.
HB.LOL.
With this answer you can work at Oase reception. I once called this club for information how many girls are there and received a similar answer: enough for you. LOL.
Is it worth visiting the clubs during World Cup?
Will most girls avoid World Cup and take early holiday or wait till July when the World Cup is over?
Thanks
Based on your criteria, Frankfurt is your better option.Thanks Banan Boi to suggest Frankfurt instead of NRW for overall optics and service levels, considering I like to have some time outisde room for foreplay and some fun.
Please suggest 3 top places to be in Hessen to spend entire day in one place, I have read some negative reports about Oase, have never been there although.
And which would be the top 3 places to be in NRW, just in case.
Thanks once again.
Is it worth visiting the clubs during world cup? Will most girls avoid world cup and take early holiday or wait till July when the world cup is over?
ThanksIt's always worth visiting the clubs. The world cup period is not normally a peak holiday period. Girls tend to start holidays in mid July, but some don't go until end of August. There are enough workers in Germany to exhaust me at at any time of year. One has to go with the flow.
It's always worth visiting the clubs. The world cup period is not normally a peak holiday period. Girls tend to start holidays in mid July, but some don't go until end of August. There are enough workers in Germany to exhaust me at at any time of year. One has to go with the flow.Any idea on how is the scene generally or going to be like in September. I am planning a trip in 2nd-3rd week of September? Even then all the girls would be on a Holiday?
Is it worth visiting the clubs during world cup? Will most girls avoid world cup and take early holiday or wait till July when the world cup is over?
ThanksThe suspect days, may be when Germany is playing, as The German customers may be very glued to the TV, however its only for a period (not the whole day). Perhaps attendance can be down.
I attended FKK during the recent Real Madrid and Athletico Madrid Champions League final. Had no problems with girl lineup. A few guys were watching the game on TV (me too) but very few of them were German. German guys become disinterested when German teams are out of it. Just my impression. Far more German TV watchers during the normal Bundesliga football season.
Is there anyone here can tell me about how many girls will be in the clubs for a typical Sunday, Monday and Tuesday day and night in clubs Oase, Sharks and World and Palace?
BR.Question is too tough for anyone to answer all of it. However you should know by now that Sharks is getting very popular for Sundays with cheap entry before 2 PM. I was doing it regularly, and no problems with having enough girls. If I attend Tuesday, I will report.
Thanks Banan Boi to suggest Frankfurt instead of NRW for overall optics and service levels, considering I like to have some time outisde room for foreplay and some fun.
Please suggest 3 top places to be in Hessen to spend entire day in one place, I have read some negative reports about Oase, have never been there although.
And which would be the top 3 places to be in NRW, just in case.
Thanks once again.You are too new to the FKK scene to be concerned about the negative reports on Oase. If you honestly get bored at Oase, PM me and I will comp your next year ISG membership. :-)
Top three by post count, and number of girls are Oase, Palace and World. Sharks is close 4th and Mainhatten 5th.
NRW top three using the same criteria are GT, Acapulco and Magnum.
You are too new to the FKK scene to be concerned about the negative reports on Oase. If you honestly get bored at Oase, PM me and I will comp your next year ISG membership. :-)
Top three by post count, and number of girls are Oase, Palace and World. Sharks is close 4th and Mainhatten 5th.
NRW top three using the same criteria are GT, Acapulco and Magnum.I am surprised you don't suggest Samya to someone who likes foreplay.
Samya offers free beer and dancing with girls. And the number of girls are enough.
BR.
Trans Atlantic
06-10-14, 17:27
Thanks Banan Boi to suggest Frankfurt instead of NRW for overall optics and service levels, considering I like to have some time outisde room for foreplay and some fun.
Please suggest 3 top places to be in Hessen to spend entire day in one place, I have read some negative reports about Oase, have never been there although.
And which would be the top 3 places to be in NRW, just in case.
Thanks once again.Public action definitely Hessen. As for optics and service levels, that's debatable between Hessen and NRW (service. Especially if you consider the smaller NRW clubs). Price-wise NRW especially if you opt for extras.
While I'm not a fan of Oase, you should take a look if you haven't been.
As Vitrea suggested, NRW top three would be GoldenTime, Acapulco, Magnum. A note about Magnum, go in the evenings (19 h and onward). It's dead during the day whereas GoldenTime is the other way around, go during the afternoon. Evenings tend to be GayTime.
Has anyone ever written a summary of the FKK scene? What the best clubs are and where? How do they rank? Which ones are easy shots from major cities, and which ones are really far out in the burbs? The FAQ section doesn't seem very helpful.
I know what Oase and Mainhatten are like. But they are so many FKK's and they are listed by town, which if you are not familiar with Germany, makes it hard to do your research. I always try to read the forum and do my research, but the FKK pages are a numerous and a little too complex.
I was planning to visit Germany in Sept during Oktoberfeste. An FKK overview to help guide research would help a lot, even if its a year or two old.
Has anyone ever written a summary of the FKK scene? What the best clubs are and where? How do they rank? Which ones are easy shots from major cities, and which ones are really far out in the burbs? The FAQ section doesn't seem very helpful.
I know what Oase and Mainhatten are like. But they are so many FKK's and they are listed by town, which if you are not familiar with Germany, makes it hard to do your research. I always try to read the forum and do my research, but the FKK pages are a numerous and a little too complex.
I was planning to visit Germany in Sept during Oktoberfeste. An FKK overview to help guide research would help a lot, even if its a year or two old.Routard's following report Fkk Faq Part 1 &2 is the thing you are looking for.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2601-FKK-FAQ&p=498957&viewfull=1#post498957.
It s a bit old but still very usefull.
If the link not working you can find it in the thread's last page.
Regards.
Routard's following report Fkk Faq Part 1 &2 is the thing you are looking for.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2601-FKK-FAQ&p=498957&viewfull=1#post498957.
It s a bit old but still very usefull.
If the link not working you can find it in the thread's last page.
Regards.Thanks for the link! It's a little old, but a great start.
I am surprised you don't suggest Samya to someone who likes foreplay.
Samya offers free beer and dancing with girls. And the number of girls are enough.
BR.Good point about Samya and which male does not like free foreplay? Ha ha.
The reason I did not mention is that the question is a generic "top three". Samya had its serious fans and it also has folks that don't go there the second time. Well, that is we have so many clubs for everyone's tastes and desires and enough folks willing to discuss them on forums. Life is good.
Solo Traveler
06-11-14, 04:52
I'm going to have another sex vacation in Frankfurt in early July.
I am now a sophomore, I guess, not a rookie / newbie anymore.
I only want to have standard 50€/30 minutes sessions (DFK+BBBJ+covered sex; I don't do DATY).
So, my plan is to stick with only World, Sharks, and Mainhattan, which still have good reputation in terms of girls' service and attitude.
I am on a vacation, so my time & money are extremely precious, and that's why I decide to kick Oase and Palace out my list completely. No extra time & extra money to try the two unreliable clubs.
Almost everything is set, but I still have three little dumb questions.
Q1 (Very Important!
Is the "re-entry" policy always valid? Or it actually depends on the mood of the front desk lady / club manager?
My plan is to stay in a hotel near the FKK clubs (within 5-minute walking distance).
Pay the entrance fee 65€-70€. Enter the club at 13:00, have 1-2 session.
Leave the club and go back to my hotel room at 17:00, and sleep until 22:00.
Re-enter the club again at 23:00 without paying again, have another 1-2 sessions until the club close at 04:00.
Can I do this kind of routine every day (for 3-5 days consecutively) in a certain club?
Will the front desk lady / club manager think that my behavior is wasting their money / club resources, and refuse to let me in at 23:00/ try to charge me another 65€-70€ entrance fee for re-entering the club at 23:00?
Q2 (Dumb Question).
For foreign tourists who are not able to speak German, if they want to ask something / start a conversation in English, do they have to ask "Entschuldigen Sie, sprichen Sie English? Excuse me, do you speak English?) before starting to say something in English?
Will it be considered extremely rude and ignorant by local people (German people around Frankfurt / Main area) without asking "Entschuldigen Sie, sprichen Sie Englisch?" first?
Q3 (Very Dumb Question, sorry.).
I already know that I have to wear a towel to cover my ass when I go into the sauna room / steam room.
How about going into the swimming pool?
Do I have to wear something like a swim cap or swim goggles if I want to swim in the pool?
Thanks!
I'm going to have another sex vacation in Frankfurt in early July.
I am now a sophomore, I guess, not a rookie / newbie anymore.
I only want to have standard 50/30 minutes sessions (DFK+BBBJ+covered sex; I don't do DATY).
So, my plan is to stick with only World, Sharks, and Mainhattan, which still have good reputation in terms of girls' service and attitude.
I am on a vacation, so my time & money are extremely precious, and that's why I decide to kick Oase and Palace out my list completely. No extra time & extra money to try the two unreliable clubs.
Thanks!Of your questions, the only one I know the answer to is that most women speak enough english to get things done.
Are you really kicking Oase off your list as the unreliable one? If you are keeping Mainhatten, but dumping Oase, it makes me question whether you have even been to these places before. Oase is vastly superior. Mainhatten is only convenient because it is so conveniently located in the city.
GuyFromParis
06-11-14, 16:14
Of your questions, the only one I know the answer to is that most women speak enough english to get things done.
Are you really kicking Oase off your list as the unreliable one? If you are keeping Mainhatten, but dumping Oase, it makes me question whether you have even been to these places before. Oase is vastly superior. Mainhatten is only convenient because it is so conveniently located in the city.+1.
From my experiences, girls at Oase offer good services. Maybe more unequal than at World or Sharks (in fact, always question of luck), but there are more choices.
In Mainhattan, some girls like to upsell (daty for example), especially if you are not a regular of the club.
I'm looking for suggestions for a second visit this week. I went to Hawaii yesterday and was now impressed by the quality or the way the girls worked. Maybe I went early in the evening? Around 7 pm. I did not like the Romanians at all (sorry!) too pushy and want to go immediately to the room for extras.
I have 3 days more in Munich before I head back to the us and want to try one more. Either on Friday or Thursday.
I do not have a car, so have to find something that can be gotten to from a train station and probably has a late train back to Munich.
Thinking if I should go Coliseum or do the long train to paradise. Or maybe a second trip to Hawaii?
TankTank123
06-12-14, 01:43
+1.
From my experiences, girls at Oase offer good services. Maybe more unequal than at World or Sharks (in fact, always question of luck), but there are more choices.
In Mainhattan, some girls like to upsell (daty for example), especially if you are not a regular of the club.+ 1.
Mainhatten has far less girls than Oase and they are even more unreliable.
Over the last weekend when I went to World, Sharks, and Oase, Oase had the most girls; while World had the most exposed scrotums, followed by Sharks.
Q1 (Very Important! Is the "re-entry" policy always valid? Or it actually depends on the mood of the front desk lady / club manager? Can I do this kind of routine every day (for 3-5 days consecutively) in a certain club? Will the front desk lady / club manager think that my behavior is wasting their money / club resources, and refuse to let me in at 23:00/ try to charge me another 65-70 entrance fee for re-entering the club at 23:00?
Q2 (Dumb Question). For foreign tourists who are not able to speak German, if they want to ask something / start a conversation in English, do they have to ask "Entschuldigen Sie, sprichen Sie English? Excuse me, do you speak English?) before starting to say something in English?
Will it be considered extremely rude and ignorant by local people (German people around Frankfurt / Main area) without asking "Entschuldigen Sie, sprichen Sie Englisch?" first?
Q3 (Very Dumb Question, sorry.) How about going into the swimming pool? Do I have to wear something like a swim cap or swim goggles if I want to swim in the pool?Q1.
Yes.
Sometimes at Sharks on Fridays and Saturdays.
No.
Q2.
No.
Q3.
No.
+1.
From my experiences, girls at Oase offer good services. Maybe more unequal than at World or Sharks (in fact, always question of luck), but there are more choices.
In Mainhattan, some girls like to upsell (daty for example), especially if you are not a regular of the club.At Mainhattan, especially from experienced senior member Jymonder, there are girls, three out of three, that insisted on 50 euro extra for putting his fingers in their vagina. Mainhattan has girls that ask for 50 euro extra for ball licking like Sara does.
In my last two visits to Oase, I found the line up at Oase, deplorable. In fact on visit before a national holiday the club was a ghost town and local German friends even said not to even visit, save your money and go to another club while as I was travelling to Oase to visit since the Germans were already there and saw how bad it was. The girls picked at Oase all were not memorable and gave awful service. I even got upset at one who said yes to all my questions like kissing, DATY, ball licking, etc. Then proceeded to not do any of the requested acts except perform a 10 second blowjob which consisted primarily of her hand and then put a condom on to begin sex. This is sub standard service level is Oase for the girls picked by me.
World and to a lesser extent Sharks are where I find girls more consistent in their service level being standard at least.
Of your questions, the only one I know the answer to is that most women speak enough english to get things done.
Are you really kicking Oase off your list as the unreliable one? If you are keeping Mainhatten, but dumping Oase, it makes me question whether you have even been to these places before. Oase is vastly superior. Mainhatten is only convenient because it is so conveniently located in the city.+ 2.
It would be silly to strike Oase off the list for the stated reason. I do go to Mianhatten only because I want variety. For a second FKK trip to FRA, Oase would be on the top of my list. Finding hotels in 5 min walking distance is hard but you can with a 10 euro cab ride.
Solo Traveler
06-12-14, 09:24
Actually, my previous post doesn't mean to provoke a dispute here.
I just want to know the answer to my three little questions.
When I said that I decide to go to certain clubs, and not to go to certain clubs, it's just based on my personal experience and other senior members' recommendation.
I had so-so / bad experience in Oase / Palace before, so I kick them out my list.
I had not bad / good experience in World / Sharks / Mainhattan, so I keep them in my list.
That's it. Very simple logic.
Of course, as everyone knows, one can always get lucky or unlucky in every club / with every girl. It's just like one man's favorite girl may be another man's worst nightmare, and vise versa.
Good point about Samya and which male does not like free foreplay? Ha ha.
The reason I did not mention is that the question is a generic "top three". Samya had its serious fans and it also has folks that don't go there the second time. Well, that is we have so many clubs for everyone's tastes and desires and enough folks willing to discuss them on forums. Life is good.Manny,
Enjoy it! I had even found a gps locations list in somewhere in thread. But anyway do not make a PH. The on ISG like I do last month.
I will hit Artemis tomorrow. Hope to get better than the next time.
And Vitrea,
I can easily say I prefer to be in Oase or Artemis despite the club atmosphere in Samya.
Because I have already discovered that I like to be impressed of the facilities. I like the magic. Sharks are always in everywhere.
And many people told me not to go Oase because of Sharks.
Just sharing my opinions for others benefit. You are right. Agree with you.
There are many clubs to discuss for and it's another pleasure to talk about them.
Enjoy yourself,
Ciao
Solo Traveller.
1. Re-entry to club. Normally there should be no problem. You need to be clear in advance (before you leave your visit earlier in the day), get a receipt and / or keep your armband. Politeness dictates that on your return you wait for any other men who are arriving.
They may even keep the same locker for you, in which case you can leave your flipflops etc in there. Ok, after five days they might get a little tired of you but the reception staff will probably change a bit. Give it a try if you want and be guided by their reaction. Returning to a club at 23.00 should make you popular with the girls as the small hours are low on men but as Dufey says, returning at 23.00 on Friday and Saturday is a little more delicate, and you need to check in advance on the day.
2. Speaking English. As Dufey says you can launch straight into English, but a few words of German (and a smile) to start always go a long way, even if it is "es tut mir leid, aber ich kann keine Deutsch sprechen" or something similar.
while World had the most exposed scrotums, followed by Sharks.Ha ha! You must be American. ! Normally we don't attention to that sort of thing. Nudity is normal.
How can I pick a girl when her ass is wrapped in a towel. How can a girl decide if a man is safe if she can't see his dick. Saw one guy at Oase who had to unwrap the goods before every session to see if the girl would run away squealing or was willing to try it. It really was enormous. Most girls ran away.
TankTank123
06-13-14, 14:56
Ha ha! You must be American. ! ... and you must be Australian !
... and you must be Australian !Be careful, girls read the forum too. There maybe only one.
London Traveller
06-15-14, 15:52
Hey, I will be in Frankfurt area on Thursday and want to watch the football in the best place. Which club do people think? I thought World but maybe there are better places?
PussyLiccker
06-15-14, 16:01
Oase? If they show it in the cinema. Every so often you can tilt your head right and look at the girls, since the cinema wall is not there anymore. Also, you can get a BJ during the game in the cinema I would think. Maybe the BJ for the whole game. It makes the game more pleasurable.
Hey, I will be in Frankfurt area on Thursday and want to watch the football in the best place. Which club do people think? I thought World but maybe there are better places?What do you mean by "better"?
Sharks has now 4 large screens showing the World cup, including sound. It is funny to see the girls cheer when Spain makes a goal (they remembered they were from Spain, even if they are 100% Rumanian))))))).
Hey, I will be in Frankfurt area on Thursday and want to watch the football in the best place. Which club do people think?Go to O'Reilly's Pub opposite the Main Train Station. Free entry and the beer is normal pub prices.
SharkEater
06-15-14, 21:53
Go to O'Reilly's Pub opposite the Main Train Station. Free entry and the beer is normal pub prices.They also offer free Wifi, LOL.
Despite some searching the forums and elsewhere, I haven't uncovered an FKK / Saunaclub with an outdoor pool and the potential for open outdoor sex. Are there any, similar to Oase in the NRW?
Unlike my last middle-of-winter FKK vacation some time ago, this time I get to visit during the second week of August and want to make the most of summer opportunity. I am on the fence about Oase due to the 2+ hour drive from the DUS area that I will focus my activities. Plus, the talent at Oase has apparently declined, too. I will have a car, being experienced with stick shift and some careful experience with the Autobahn.
I know about GT, which has outdoor grounds and is on my TDL this trip, but GT has no pool and little chance of outdoor action, fwict. I think PHG has an outdoor pool, but the talent there is apparently weak and there is also little outdoor fun there. During my last visit, I was at Samya, Babylon, and Bernds, all of which have little or no outdoor grounds.
I am aware of the abundance of RO and BU ladies, but as many do, I tend to gravitate toward tall blondes from EE countries, and spanish and german ladies when they are present.
P.S. I will be in the DUS area 9. 8. 14 to 13.8. 14 and I am looking for a tag along wingman, who can be FKK inexperienced but must be fearless. He can share travel expenses, but my real reason is to find someone to chat with in between sessions, during recovery if there is no lady at hand that will spend similar time. PM me if you have interest and a similar schedule.
Not that many outdoor pools in NRW. I doubt you'll find girls willing to fuck outdoors in Villa Vertigo and Planet Happy Garden, but maybe in Planet Eden. There is often some outdoor fucking in GT, but no pool (there is a pond though!
Finnish Fucker
06-16-14, 18:55
What do you mean by "better"?
Sharks has now 4 large screens showing the World cup, including sound. It is funny to see the girls cheer when Spain makes a goal (they remembered they were from Spain, even if they are 100% Rumanian))))))).Now I understand why the atmosphere in Oase past Friday was like in graveyard when Holland kicked the spanish ass 5-1. The roof at GT must have blown off, lol.
I'm planning a mega FKK visit in Frankfurt from Sat 21 to Thursday 26 June. I have visited Oase on 4 occasions previously and have always been happy with my experiences and have never got through all the girls I really wanted to fuck but given that I have 6 days (and nothing else to do) am planning to expand my horizons this time.
Provisional plan is below.
Sat 21 - Palace. Arrive in the evening. Planning to visit Palace and staying at the nearby Ibis. I know Palace seems to have a bad reputation on this forum but I should have enough experience to charter shark infested waters.
Sun 22 - Oase. I will be staying at Mercure which I have stayed at before and as far as I am concerned it does the job for me (clean and comfortable which is all I need as I will be spending all my waking time at Oase). I assume that the easiest / cost effective way is to get the S5 from Frankfurt (Main) Hauptbahnhof to Friedrichsdorf?
Mon 23 - Oase.
Tues 24 - World. My research suggests the easiest way to get there is to get a train from Friedrichsdorf to Giessen which involves a change at Friedberg (Hess). Can anyone recommend a hotel which meets my parameters (free wifi a bonus) and will not cost much getting a cab back to from World?
Wed 25 - World.
Thurs - Oase (unless World surpasses Oase).
I know Tues at World and Thurs at Oase are dessous days but I'm a sucker for lingerie so its actually more of an attraction than a drawback.
I discounted Mainhatten and Sharks as it seems they have a smaller line-up and chose Palace as it seems they have a big line-up and variety (am a bit of a flag-collector). Not planning to spend daytime at Palace as coming from sweltering Dubai fancy having an outdoor area to lounge around in during the day.
Would welcome alternative suggestions is a detour to the RLD worthwhile? Wouldn't mind a BDSM session with a submissive girl if that is easily available (something similar to the set-up at London Submissive Girls for those who are familiar with it) though FKKs are very much my focus.
Also, does anyone know if the following girls are still at Oase? They were my favourites from last year and am in whetting the appetite mode now:
Fidan. Turkish / Crimean.
Cassandra. Petite, young, blonde from Romania (heavily tattoed).
Jessica. Sultry tanned Romanian from "Spain" with very prominent lips.
Marielle. Tall, slim, German. Porecelain skin and one of her nipples was pierced as well as downstairs. Normally works Mondays and Wednesdays (or that's what she told me).
Thanks in advance and will post reports.
Hessen Bub
06-16-14, 19:42
I'd swap one of your Oase visits for Sharks. You will find Shark's lineup better than World's and maybe even better than Oase.
HB.
Banana Boi
06-16-14, 20:39
I discounted Mainhatten and Sharks as it seems they have a smaller line-up Small lineup at Sharks?
London Traveller
06-16-14, 21:04
What do you mean by "better"?
Sharks has now 4 large screens showing the World cup, including sound. It is funny to see the girls cheer when Spain makes a goal (they remembered they were from Spain, even if they are 100% Rumanian))))))).Thanks for the helpful reply. 'Better' can be bigger screens, less girls hassling, more peaceful environment to watch the match. At World the screens are downstairs and girls don't hassle much. Where are the screens in Sharks?
Thanks for the helpful reply. 'Better' can be bigger screens, less girls hassling, more peaceful environment to watch the match. At World the screens are downstairs and girls don't hassle much. Where are the screens in Sharks?The screens at Sharks are outside, just in the place where you go outside. The are enough places to sit (or stand) watching, girls are not hassling, but beware when Spain is playing, then the girls do want to express they are fans also! : smile:)).
(still strange that smileys are not possible on this board, but sometimes, if you try hard enough, they might show themselves mysteriously. ;-) ;) ;-)) ;)) ).
Hessen Bub
06-16-14, 21:42
If you save a post all smileys disappear. If you edit your post and save it. They stay. :) ;) :( :D
HB.
Thanks for the helpful reply. 'Better' can be bigger screens, less girls hassling, more peaceful environment to watch the match. At World the screens are downstairs and girls don't hassle much. Where are the screens in Sharks?One day at World, the pornstar type girl perched herself in front of the big screen showing the Budesliga football and spread her lifted straight legs very wide saying: "Here you should be looking at better things than football".
Do the girls often go out to sun and play in the VV pool? I don't have the Villa Vertigo on my tour list because it doesn't seem to get many favorable reviews and appears more expensive than the alternatives. I'll check out Planet Eden, thanks.
Not that many outdoor pools in NRW. I doubt you'll find girls willing to fuck outdoors in Villa Vertigo and Planet Happy Garden, but maybe in Planet Eden. There is often some outdoor fucking in GT, but no pool (there is a pond though!
Hi seniors,
After going through various reports, I have made my possible plans as follows and seek advise as to what seems to be the best combination of good looks and good service, as I like to have action in Public / garden before going to the room, looks are of course important, don't want great service from ugly girls.
Actually, I am quite confused as I am new to FKK, using only public transport and a bit of cab.
Sat GT.
Sun ACA.
Mon Oase.
OR.
Sat Sharks.
Sun Oase.
Mon Palace.
OR.
Sat GT.
Sun ACA.
Mon SAMYA.
OR.
Any other combinations please suggest.
Please help.
Thanks team ISG.
Hi seniors,
After going through various reports, I have made my possible plans as follows and seek advise as to what seems to be the best combination of good looks and good service, as I like to have action in Public / garden before going to the room, looks are of course important, don't want great service from ugly girls.PUBLIC TRANSPORT. The following places are to reach by train / public transport within reasonable timeframe.
SAMYA (COLOGNE) - from KÖLN HBF (central station) take you 16 in direction MICHAELSHOVEN - 24 minutes ride + another 5 minutes walking distance.
OASE. From FRANKFURT HBF (central station) take S 6 in direction FRIEDRICHSDORF. Here you get a taxi which drives you to the club (fare around 12 Euro, by the way, don't be astonished the driver following you to the reception desk, as he gets a 10 Euro in cash from the club bringing a customer).
SHARKS. From FRANKFURT HBF take the train (S-Bahn, regional trains) to DARMSTADT HBF. Taxi to the club about 10 Euro (same procedure as in Oase).
PALACE. FRANKFURT downtown. From HAUPTWACHE (city centre) you can take U6 and U7 to stop INDUSTRIEHOF (10 minutes) - when 200 metres walking distance.
The other locations I never visited and therefore I am not able to give you good advice. But I am also a regular user of public transport and therefore at least I can say, that GT and Acapulco aren't easy to reach this way.
If you save a post all smileys disappear. If you edit your post and save it. They stay. :) ;) :( :D
HB.Thx, I think I know how it works now :) ;) :D :P
I could use a little help locating hotels in the NRW for my upcoming FKK tour during the second week in August. I could search the thread all day and not come up with some good selections, many of them potentially outdated, so I ask your help.
I am flying into DUS on Sat, Aug 9th and going to visit Samya for the party atmosphere, then go up to Goldentime on Sunday, possibly visiting Club Angelique or Living Room on Sunday night. I am think of driving out to Oase on Monday or Tuesday, depending on weather, then coming back to the NRW area for FKK Babylon and Bernds, or PC Bochum, possibly some others in the NRW area.
I should probably stay a short distance from Samya on Sat night (actually Sun morning), since I will have just arrived with tail potentially dragging. After that, maybe stay around Krefeld or Kaarst? I'll probably stay at the Hotel Mercure in Freidricksdorf during one night after Oase.
I've stayed at Hotel Jontule in Hennef before and found that to be satisfactory. A clean hotel with reasonable cost is what I am seeking.
Also, since I will be driving (done it in Germany before), a hotel with available parking would be best. I do not need to stay in a downtown location.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Mambomike. Try hrs.com for the best choice :) I often use Wyndham at Mettmann provided the price is cheap enough, as it has excellent parking and is very near the autobahn and has 24 hour reception. Next time I am trying Sporthotel Tespo in Kaarst, which looks ok, but I will see. There are loads of hotels to choose from, but I personally avoid ones very near the airport (including Ratingen) as they tend to have limited or charged parking :( or be overpriced :mad:
I could use a little help locating hotels in the NRW for my upcoming FKK tour during the second week in August. I could search the thread all day and not come up with some good selections, many of them potentially outdated, so I ask your help.
I am flying into DUS on Sat, Aug 9th and going to visit Samya for the party atmosphere, then go up to Goldentime on Sunday, possibly visiting Club Angelique or Living Room on Sunday night. I am think of driving out to Oase on Monday or Tuesday, depending on weather, then coming back to the NRW area for FKK Babylon and Bernds, or PC Bochum, possibly some others in the NRW area.
I should probably stay a short distance from Samya on Sat night (actually Sun morning), since I will have just arrived with tail potentially dragging. After that, maybe stay around Krefeld or Kaarst? I'll probably stay at the Hotel Mercure in Freidricksdorf during one night after Oase.
I've stayed at Hotel Jontule in Hennef before and found that to be satisfactory. A clean hotel with reasonable cost is what I am seeking.
Also, since I will be driving (done it in Germany before), a hotel with available parking would be best. I do not need to stay in a downtown location.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.I have a different take on it. I stopped booking hotels or even looking for them ahead of time, when I am on an FKK tour (which clearly sounds like you are on). Once I pick an FKK where I am finishing my evening, around 6 PM I ask the front manager about a hotel. I have had good luck finding hotels this way for around 50 Euro including breakfast. The hotels are generally small and in small towns close to FKK so parking is not an issue. GT evens sends a taxi to bring the key for 10 euro, if you are staying past 10 or 11 PM. Which is when the reception at most small hotels close.
Good luck and have fun.
Golda Meir
06-22-14, 15:38
Mambomike. Try hrs.com for the best choice :) I often use Wyndham at Mettmann provided the price is cheap enough, as it has excellent parking and is very near the autobahn and has 24 hour reception. Next time I am trying Sporthotel Tespo in Kaarst, which looks ok, but I will see. There are loads of hotels to choose from, but I personally avoid ones very near the airport (including Ratingen) as they tend to have limited or charged parking :( or be overpriced :mad:I agree that hrs is a good site for German hotels, but try also kayak.com and hotelscombined.com. Kayak has a great interface, including a map-based one. Hotelscombined sometimes refers to sites with excellent rates. Both consolidate several search engines.
Hi seniors,
After going through various reports, I have made my possible plans as follows and seek advise as to what seems to be the best combination of good looks and good service, as I like to have action in Public / garden before going to the room, looks are of course important, don't want great service from ugly girls.
Actually, I am quite confused as I am new to FKK, using only public transport and a bit of cab.
Sat GT.
Sun ACA.
Mon Oase.
OR.
Sat Sharks.
Sun Oase.
Mon Palace.
OR.
Sat GT.
Sun ACA.
Mon SAMYA.
OR.
Any other combinations please suggest.
Please help.
Thanks team ISG.I think a true plan would be;.
Saturday Oase or Sharks (if foreplay is important definitely Oase).
Sunday GT or Samya (If you don't have a rental car and based in Cologne definitely Samya. Also from foreplay point of view definitely Samya. GT is 80 km from Cologne city center and Samya 10-15 km if I am not wrong).
Monday GT or Mondial (I am not sure GT deserves a visit and I want to remind they have a strict door policy so if you are indian wear some suites or betterly drop it from the list.).
Citizen Kane
06-22-14, 20:18
Could someone please confirm if Thursday is still Dessous tag at Finca Erotica? The only info I found on google was from about 5 years ago.
Also, is Das 5 Element basically a sauna club I. E. Not FKK at all?
Thanks in advance.
CK.
This sounds like a good plan, but I am a little concern about hotel room availability in August. Is that often a problem? Also, are the hotels now shunning US credit cards due to their inferior security and incompatibility with Euro credit cards?
I don't need a luxurious hotel room, but one with a half decent bed and AC would be nice. I don't spend much time in a hotel room during an FKK self-guided tour anyway. One night I drove directly from Oase at closing time to my FRA flight, no hotel needed.
Last time I was in NRW, I had a couple of hotels on my list but made no reservations. Having no reservations wasn't much of a problem, but it was the middle of February. I do remember that some places were pretty stingy on heat and I laid shivering under insufficient cover, but the opposite may be the problem in August. One place recommended 'near' Elsdorf turned out to be a long tiring drive after the club closed.
I also want to check in early Saturday afternoon near Samya and try to get some time adjustment sleep before hitting the club for a party-type night. I've been to Samya once before and know it isn't the type of place to find a quiet place for a nap, especially on a Sat night. And I am not paying 75 E for a zimmer and a girl to watch me sleep!
Good to know about the key option at GT. That might come in handy on Sunday.
I have a different take on it. I stopped booking hotels or even looking for them ahead of time, when I am on an FKK tour (which clearly sounds like you are on). Once I pick an FKK where I am finishing my evening, around 6 PM I ask the front manager about a hotel. I have had good luck finding hotels this way for around 50 Euro including breakfast. The hotels are generally small and in small towns close to FKK so parking is not an issue. GT evens sends a taxi to bring the key for 10 euro, if you are staying past 10 or 11 PM. Which is when the reception at most small hotels close.
Good luck and have fun.
UltraHappy
06-23-14, 23:54
This sounds like a good plan, but I am a little concern about hotel room availability in August. Is that often a problem? Also, are the hotels now shunning US credit cards due to their inferior security and incompatibility with Euro credit cards?
I don't need a luxurious hotel room, but one with a half decent bed and AC would be nice. I don't spend much time in a hotel room during an FKK self-guided tour anyway. One night I drove directly from Oase at closing time to my FRA flight, no hotel needed.
Your US credit and ATM cards will work all over Germany no problem. I go there all the time and have never had a problem with either. I haven't yet upgraded to the fancier chip card yet (one of my banks offers this option for frequent travelers but I have yet to avail myself of this feature).
Yes, you need AC in August in Germany. This is a must, especially since you'll be sleeping during the day.
I personally use tripadvisor and hotels.com, although I am inclined to try some of the other web sites noted below as well.
Your US credit and ATM cards will work all over Germany no problem. I go there all the time and have never had a problem with either. I haven't yet upgraded to the fancier chip card yet (one of my banks offers this option for frequent travelers but I have yet to avail myself of this feature).
Yes, you need AC in August in Germany. This is a must, especially since you'll be sleeping during the day.
I personally use tripadvisor and hotels.com, although I am inclined to try some of the other web sites noted below as well.A couple of other tips:
1. Call your banks and credit unions and tell them the dates you will be in Germany. They will note this in your file. If you don't do this, there's a chance that one or more of them might think somebody has got your card or identity and block the card. Some companies will put a travel note in your file and some won't care, but, it's good to make the effort. Some cards even waive the 1% international transaction fee. It's good to check that out as well. Make sure you know the daily limits on withdrawals and ask the limit to be increased if necessary.
2. In case your cards get lost or stolen, make sure you have the non-800# written down. All companies will take a collect call to report a lost or stolen card.
3. Make sure your ATM and debit card PINs are only four digits. Virtually all machines in Europe can't handle more than four digits.
4. When you make a withdrawal, some banks give you the option of taking the withdrawal in Euros of immediately in dollars. You still get Euros out of the machine. It's a matter of whether you want the immediate exchange rate or one later on when the transaction is posted. NEVER take the "dollars" rate. They generally are rip-offs. The best exchange rates out there are from your debit cards if you take the withdrawal in Euros.
Get lots of sleep and don't drink at all or very little. You will need every ounce of stamina you can muster!
Planning to visit FKK club!!
What happens and how?
I imaginne it being a big place with plenty of naked girls about. I am hoping its not naked men sitting around but in their clothes or robes.
I assume you pay a entrance fee, what does it cost, do you stay in for the day have sex with as many as you can. Everytime you have sex with a girl I hope its in private not into sharing!! And what would they charge.
What does drinks cost and do the girls get pushy for drinks!(hate It).
How does it compare to a parlour or estark in costa. I assume its a different experience.
Neutron Flux
06-25-14, 20:22
What happens in FKKs is mostly that you go and try to have fun with the ladies, however, it can be hard at times, since you're disturbed all time time by newbie mongers who come naked (sometimes also in clothes or robes) asking the most basic and silly questions that could simply be answered by reading certain f. Ing forums, their reports and particularly the FAQs and RODs! That leaves you wondering and frustrated and often you push the girls for ridiculously overpriced drinks (they hate it! Sad life, really.
Burma Jones
06-25-14, 22:46
One of the biggest things to remember as a first timer is do not think that everything needs to be perfect. So what if you make a mistake and overspend on a taxi ride or stay at a less than desirable hotel. What will happen more than likely is that you will become addicted to the FKK lifestyle and will return many more times. Thus learning from your mistakes and then providing information to the next round of newbies. Trust me, every man on this site who is giving advice also walked into a club for the very first time and has made plenty of mistakes. If you try to make it all perfect, this results in unnecessary anxiety and even sexual performance problems. Just go with the flow, take lots of notes, and enjoy yourself.
ScottyDog23
06-26-14, 00:34
Hey team,
I am in Berlin one day,11 AM-4 PM. I don't think I have time for the whole Artemis program.
Is there any central Berlin brothel with quality girls and forget the saunas and pools?
Thanks,
Scottydog23
Neutron Flux
06-26-14, 01:16
Hey team,
I am in Berlin one day,11 AM-4 PM. I don't think I have time for the whole Artemis program.
Is there any central Berlin brothel with quality girls and forget the saunas and pools?
Thanks,
Scottydog23Ok, I'm going to be nice one time and not give you an answer like to the guy below that you would also deserve. Google Kamilla Dee, Royal or Liberty in Berlin or go to berlin-intim dot de. Rumors are you might even find a lot of info about these on this very forum. Good night.
A couple of other tips:
3. Make sure your ATM and debit card PINs are only four digits. Virtually all machines in Europe can't handle more than four digits.
Not true. Never had a problem anywhere in Europe with longer numbers.
Banana Boi
06-26-14, 05:17
What happens and how?
I am hoping its not naked men sitting around but in their clothes or robes. I assume you pay a entrance fee, what does it cost, do you stay in for the day have sex with as many as you can. Everytime you have sex with a girl I hope its in private not into sharing!! And what would they charge. What does drinks cost and do the girls get pushy for drinks!(hate It).Man sees girl. Man asks girl to room. Girl says ok. Man fucks girl. Man showers. Man looks for next girl.
Robes and towels. Some men are naked. Entry anywhere from 30 to 90 euro depending on which club. Stay for the entire day. Most clubs have free food and alcohol. Can have sex in public or private room. Sex is anywhere from 25 euro to 60 euro for half hour depending on the club. Most clubs are 50 euro for half hour.
Girls do not ask for drinks. Only club I am aware of that girls ask you to buy them drinks is Dolce Vita. Don't act like a newbie and this will never happen.
Man sees girl. Man asks girl to room. Girl says ok. Man fucks girl. Man showers. Man looks for next girl..In between "fuck"and "showers": "Man pays girl" !
Thank you Max and others that replied. I had no trouble in Germany several years ago, but did not know if the situation had changed due to recent security issues. And thanks for the reminder about calling the card company about travel plans and writing down a list of 800 numbers. Sometimes I forget about that when travelling much shorter distances and have my card put on hold until I call them.
Maybe one day the USA card issuers will switch to the European chip standard instead of the mag strip, so everything is compatible everywhere.
A couple of other tips:
1. Call your banks and credit unions and tell them the dates you will be in Germany. They will note this in your file. If you don't do this, there's a chance that one or more of them might think somebody has got your card or identity and block the card. Some companies will put a travel note in your file and some won't care, but, it's good to make the effort. Some cards even waive the 1% international transaction fee. It's good to check that out as well. Make sure you know the daily limits on withdrawals and ask the limit to be increased if necessary.
2. In case your cards get lost or stolen, make sure you have the non-800# written down. All companies will take a collect call to report a lost or stolen card.
3. Make sure your ATM and debit card PINs are only four digits. Virtually all machines in Europe can't handle more than four digits.
4. When you make a withdrawal, some banks give you the option of taking the withdrawal in Euros of immediately in dollars. You still get Euros out of the machine. It's a matter of whether you want the immediate exchange rate or one later on when the transaction is posted. NEVER take the "dollars" rate. They generally are rip-offs. The best exchange rates out there are from your debit cards if you take the withdrawal in Euros.
Get lots of sleep and don't drink at all or very little. You will need every ounce of stamina you can muster!
As an experienced first timer, I think it would be important to note the distinction between Hessen and NRW clubs, generally.
Many clubs, especially around FRA, allow girls to approach the men to ask if they are interested, much like the US stripper club 'want to dances'. The difference here is that the girl may initiate some intimate touching. But once you take her into the theater (kino) or allow her to begin sucking your cock, you are assumed to be obligated to take her to the room (zimmer). Some girls are pushier about their approach (I. E. Sharks) than others, sometimes asking multiple times throughout the day. The pushier they are, the more likely you should avoid taking them to a zimmer.
This being said, my initiation was at Oase. I intended to take my time, get comfortable, and eat a little before taking my first session. My plan went out the window withing 10 minutes of showering and donning my Hessen dress, when legendary (based on reviews I read) Swiss Michelle approached me and introduced herself. Wang. Straight to the zimmer, LOL.
In contrast, many Saunaclubs in the NRW have a no approach policy, I. E. The girls will most often sit and wait for you to initiate a conversation.
In both cases, the best policy is to spend a little while sitting and talking (with some light kissing, etc) with the girl BEFORE taking her to the zimmer. Thusly, you can gauge her comfort with intimacy and propensity to deliver GF6.
Lastly, before stepping foot into the club, spend a little time reading through the reports here for that club to get a feel for the environment and tips about best approaches there.
And if YOU want to buy her a drink, it is an option in many clubs, but do it AFTER the session, maybe as a way to retain her interest for a second session after a period of recovery, if she is really that good that you want that. Else she will hook up with another guy and you may or may not get that opportunity again. But there are lots of other ladies to try instead, so no worries.
Man sees girl. Man asks girl to room. Girl says ok. Man fucks girl. Man showers. Man looks for next girl.
Robes and towels. Some men are naked. Entry anywhere from 30 to 90 euro depending on which club. Stay for the entire day. Most clubs have free food and alcohol. Can have sex in public or private room. Sex is anywhere from 25 euro to 60 euro for half hour depending on the club. Most clubs are 50 euro for half hour.
Girls do not ask for drinks. Only club I am aware of that girls ask you to buy them drinks is Dolce Vita. Don't act like a newbie and this will never happen.
Member #4581
06-27-14, 03:07
I think mistakes are made by every one, newbie or not.
In any case, fucking a beautiful 21 year old for 50 Euros, an amount that does not even cover dinner for two in most places in Europe, can never be a mistake.
To that guy's question - you will get a robe or a towel. Unless you choose to walk around butt naked, I assume no one will stop you. I have seen plenty of men walking around naked or sun bathing nude in the outer gardens in the summer, but inside the club they mostly wear a towel. I actually do not mind walking around stark naked in the club area, if every one did so, but that is not the case unfortunately.
One advice I can US visitors. Try to get an ATM that gives a competent rate when withdrawing euros over there. I have a Schwab card which charges less than 1% above the official rate. Never ever exchange at the airport FX counters, they are a ripoff.
And ignore the snarky comments from the a $$holes around here, who act like they are holier than thou when they see newbie questions. Mr? jones is nice, but I see some guys always putting down newbie questions. If newbie questions are annoying, there is even less value add from a senior member posting nothing more than rtff.
One of the biggest things to remember as a first timer is do not think that everything needs to be perfect. So what if you make a mistake and overspend on a taxi ride or stay at a less than desirable hotel. What will happen more than likely is that you will become addicted to the FKK lifestyle and will return many more times. Thus learning from your mistakes and then providing information to the next round of newbies. Trust me, every man on this site who is giving advice also walked into a club for the very first time and has made plenty of mistakes. If you try to make it all perfect, this results in unnecessary anxiety and even sexual performance problems. Just go with the flow, take lots of notes, and enjoy yourself.
Member #4581
06-27-14, 03:22
I ran into a guy who was on one of these fkk tours. He had rented a car, and was simply sleeping in his car for a few hours. Generally, it is pretty safe around those places, so he was not afraid of getting mugged etc. Also, this was summer, so he won't freeze in the car. He was in the club till 4 AM anyway, on most days. He would sleep in the car till 9 or 10 AM, wake up, and drive to his next club. And then he was sleeping off for a few hours in a quiet area in the club, and then get on the prowl. Over a week, he saved nearly 400 bucks, per his claim.
I have a different take on it. I stopped booking hotels or even looking for them ahead of time, when I am on an FKK tour (which clearly sounds like you are on). Once I pick an FKK where I am finishing my evening, around 6 PM I ask the front manager about a hotel. I have had good luck finding hotels this way for around 50 Euro including breakfast. The hotels are generally small and in small towns close to FKK so parking is not an issue. GT evens sends a taxi to bring the key for 10 euro, if you are staying past 10 or 11 PM. Which is when the reception at most small hotels close.
Good luck and have fun.
I imaginne it being a big place with plenty of naked girls about. I am hoping its not naked men sitting around but in their clothes or robes.
Its like on the beach but women may be wearing nothing but high heels and other decorations if its a real FKK. Men may be wearing robes or just towels. You will see some men totally naked at some point even if it is in the showers or in the garden. You could see a girl sucking some guy's dick. You just got to get used to it. Things that don't appeal to me, I hardly notice, so they become effectively invisible. That includes half of the women (the fatties and the uglies). Its like switching off when an ad comes on the TV. Concentrate on just the super hot girls that really are worth looking at. This is not a prudish country.
Neutron Flux
06-27-14, 08:52
And ignore the snarky comments from the a $$holes around here, who act like they are holier than thou when they see newbie questions. Mr? jones is nice, but I see some guys always putting down newbie questions. If newbie questions are annoying, there is even less value add from a senior member posting nothing more than rtff.Its not about being an Ahole, its about people who come here, do not make any effort and ask questions that have been answered a myriad times before and would not need to be answered again if the original poster would take a few minutes of his time, read through some threads and does some searches.
Incidentally these are often the same people who only ever post questions or maybe sometimes useless trip advisor type reports, and never post actual girls reports.
I ran into a guy who was on one of these fkk tours. He had rented a car, and was simply sleeping in his car for a few hours. Generally, it is pretty safe around those places, so he was not afraid of getting mugged etc. Also, this was summer, so he won't freeze in the car. He was in the club till 4 AM anyway, on most days. He would sleep in the car till 9 or 10 AM, wake up, and drive to his next club. And then he was sleeping off for a few hours in a quiet area in the club, and then get on the prowl. Over a week, he saved nearly 400 bucks, per his claim.I do this on occasion but mainly when I'm driving from Frankfurt to Dusseldorf (or heading to a friends house halfway between the two). I'd rather do my driving at night when there's little traffic than be stuck somewhere with rush hour traffic. On my next trip I've found several hotels close to the clubs I want to visit for 25 euro's a night. But I do like to be flexible, I don't want to be locked into a hotel if I find a certain club has many girls that I need to see again. Or its raining nonstop up north but the sun is shinning in Frankfurt. So I'll book multiple hotels for single nights and cancel them depending on my location.
And ignore the snarky comments from the a $$holes around here, who act like they are holier than thou when they see newbie questions. Mr? jones is nice, but I see some guys always putting down newbie questions. If newbie questions are annoying, there is even less value add from a senior member posting nothing more than rtff.I like the snarky comments when its done against those who ask 'those' questions like: I have alot of money to spend but don't want any bad sessions, who should I see? Or the question about the towels and guys being naked. What really gets me though are the guys who ask the questions to save themselves money but can't support the forum with a measly $20. I've helped many newbies who had the pm function, I hardly go out of my way if I've got to post everything on the board. Before my first trip to Thailand I pm'd half a dozen people, got help from the few that replied. Another great research tool is youtube and google, spend time well before your trip to find out about where your going and then ask specific questions that have a better chance of getting answered.
I've helped many newbies who had the pm function, I hardly go out of my way if I've got to post everything on the board. I can't really agree with anything in your post. You want a help a newbie but don't want the info to be available to the whole forum. Sounds like you are trying to discriminate against any forum dick-wits, but actually reducing the value of the information dramatically by targeting just one person who may be a good guy or not. Or are you worried about how others will react to a candid post? I don't really get it.
You want a help a newbie but don't want the info to be available to the whole forum. Sounds like you are trying to discriminate against any forum dick-wits, but actually reducing the value of the information dramatically by targeting just one person who may be a good guy or not. I don't really get itFar too many times, the info that newbies seek already is available to them and everybody else right here on the open forum. I think that's the central point Mr. Breadman is trying to make. It's already here and elsewhere in other places on the internet that Breadman mentioned like YouTube and Google (and many more). Therefore, there is no "reduction" in the value of information here by not answering newbie inquiries that have already been addressed ad nauseam. It's all here and there and everywhere! So as Breadman said, a newbie will stand a better chance of having somebody respond to their questions if, by the very nature of their questions themselves, the veterans can see that they've already been doing some homework. Otherwise, the seasoned vets are not likely to respond.
Or if a kind, tolerant, and patient soul does choose to respond, then perhaps he might choose to spare everybody else from hearing the same old stuff again by sending the newbie a helpful PM. I think this is where Breadman is coming from, and generally speaking I agree with it. The problem is that there is a lot of info here, and it can be difficult to weed through it all. But still, it can be done. My suggestion to any newbie is to go to the the Reports of Distinction thread for any destination they are interested in, and start reading / skimming from approximately one year back. Then once you've done that, if you still have questions, then at least you will be able to ask informed questions that seasoned vets are more likely to respond to. And then go on that trip and give back to the forum with your own trip reports! That's how to become a valued member of the forum. Oh, and posting nice pics when you have them always helps! Monger on!
I can't really agree with anything in your post. You want a help a newbie but don't want the info to be available to the whole forum. Sounds like you are trying to discriminate against any forum dick-wits, but actually reducing the value of the information dramatically by targeting just one person who may be a good guy or not. Or are you worried about how others will react to a candid post? I don't really get it.This from a guy who 'can't be bothered by everybody sending him private messages'? What a crock of shit. Pm's work both ways, its mainly guys sending ME a pm and asking a question to which I respond. You might recall how that used to work until you disabled your pm function. I won't bother to find your quote but it was something like "I don't like to be bothered by all these private messages by people asking me questions so I don't accept them anymore'. Is that close enough or should I go find your post? I've got no problem at all when someone sends me a private message, it works both ways. But you wouldn't know that.
P.S. (not pm to you) the good stuff is mostly shared via pm function, like it or not.
Kiev Freak
06-29-14, 11:08
Man sees girl. Man asks girl to room. Girl says ok. Man fucks girl. Man showers. Man looks for next girl.
Robes and towels. Some men are naked. Entry anywhere from 30 to 90 euro depending on which club. Stay for the entire day. Most clubs have free food and alcohol. Can have sex in public or private room. Sex is anywhere from 25 euro to 60 euro for half hour depending on the club. Most clubs are 50 euro for half hour.
Girls do not ask for drinks. Only club I am aware of that girls ask you to buy them drinks is Dolce Vita. Don't act like a newbie and this will never happen.Summary of all. Thanks. I have never been in there due to visa problems against turkey, hope to come there soon!
I agree with The Cane, Breadman and Neutron Flux. In my 1000 + posts and reports you won't find snarky comments but I do get annoyed by the newbie posts that purely waste bandwidth (examples given by these three). German FKK thread has excellent info and one only needs to spend 15 minutes reading ROD section (well maintained and updated by the captain) and come up with specific questions.
P.S. Breadman is one of the most helpful posters on this thread, especially to newbies. IMHO any hint of criticism against him and people like him is undeserved. The fact that he sends unsolicited PMs full of useful information shows that he is one of those that care more about helping fellow mongers than his total "post count".
I ran into a guy who was on one of these fkk tours. He had rented a car, and was simply sleeping in his car for a few hours. Generally, it is pretty safe around those places, so he was not afraid of getting mugged etc. Also, this was summer, so he won't freeze in the car. He was in the club till 4 AM anyway, on most days. He would sleep in the car till 9 or 10 AM, wake up, and drive to his next club. And then he was sleeping off for a few hours in a quiet area in the club, and then get on the prowl. Over a week, he saved nearly 400 bucks, per his claim.So funny you posted this. I found myself in the same situation after a long night at Yin Yang. My problem was that I was buzzed and stoned and it was closing time. I had GPS which showed several hotels in 2 KM distance but who knows which ones have an open reception at 2 AM. I drove 1 km from YY and pulled into the parking lot of a small office complex and slept in the car till 6 AM. Renting a station wagon where seats can go flat came in handy.
CheekyDancer
07-01-14, 19:32
Hello All,
Just thinking about my next FKK adventure. Being summer soon I wondered what your thoughts were on clubs with garden areas, pools etc?.
I would like to get into the true FKK spirit of things and go for some good old balls out fucking in the summer sun.
Cheeky Dancer
London Traveller
07-01-14, 22:10
Oase is still the club with the best garden and pool. Also beds at a discreet distance for fucking as well as outdoor tents for shyer folk.
Hello All,
Just thinking about my next FKK adventure. Being summer soon I wondered what your thoughts were on clubs with garden areas, pools etc?.
I would like to get into the true FKK spirit of things and go for some good old balls out fucking in the summer sun.
Cheeky Dancer
London Traveller
07-01-14, 22:12
I prefer Golden Time as a club but this isn't really the best place for TV viewing as the kino is pretty crap (I'm not even sure that they will project the match there). Does anyone have other suggestions?
I prefer Golden Time as a club but this isn't really the best place for TV viewing as the kino is pretty crap (I'm not even sure that they will project the match there). Does anyone have other suggestions?I would think GT and LR would be kind of perfect, with the football outside in the tents and the inside for normal business. I know Samya has the whole Kino (top floor) for football, but that'll probably mean it's only guys there. PHG has a beamer in the nighcafe, Panthera will proabably have a beamer. I'm pretty sure you can watch it anywhere, but in different clubs there might be different amounts of 'taking over the club'.
I prefer Golden Time as a club but this isn't really the best place for TV viewing as the kino is pretty crap (I'm not even sure that they will project the match there). Does anyone have other suggestions?My friend, at GT the football matches are projected in the dining area tent and not in the "kino", which they are saving for porno.
At Samya, it is shown on the TV in the outdoor grill area, which is also covered.
At Magnum they show it in the penthouse level.
My top choice is GT because the white leather sofas are comfortable and it never gets stuffy. Also the seating is length wise as opposed to Samya where it is hard to get good viewing angle unless you are in front of it.
Magnum is not bad but it can get crowded.
I am planning a five-day NRW trip in early August and planning my club line up. This is my second trip, the first including stops in Samya, Babylon, Bernds, and Oase. During that trip, I found that I am actually more comfortable in larger clubs where attractive girls are allowed to approach and spend some couch time. In the NRW, most clubs seem to require you to pick out a girl and approach her, but if you decide not to take a zimmer with her after approaching her because you find that her personality is not to your liking, it seems very awkward.
Can you recommend an NRW club that has the following characteristics: 1) FKK quality girls, 2) FKK (nude) policy, 3) girls approach guys with a little pre-zimmer couch time, 4) NRW pricing for extras and extended time, 5) high probability of GF6?
Other than Oase (which is 2 hours away and quality has apparently deteriorated), Babylon seemed to be the best match, but it is a smaller club and you have to approach the girls.
and extended time, 5) high probability of GF6?
Other than Oase (which is 2 hours away and quality has apparently deteriorated), I don't why you seem to believe the quality at Oase has gone down. Your statement is certainly NOT based on direct experience or a recent visit, is it? Because I've just returned from a several days in Frankfurt and I found the quality of the line-ups at World and Sharks definitely displayed deterioration, but the line-ups at Oase (over several days and individual visits spanning about 3 weeks) blew away the competition from the other clubs. Couple that with the superior club atmosphere (compared to Sharks, for example) and one of the top outdoor areas, and the preferred "girls approach guys and engage in couch time" culture at Oase, I found it hard not to keep going back to this club vs the other options in / around town. You really should go and take a fresh look before you decide the line-up is deteriorated based on (sometimes unreliable and possibly biased) 2nd-hand information. I think you will be impressed with the place right now.
NRW clubs have many attractive aspects (like the favourable pricing for Entry, Sessions and Extras) vs Hessen clubs, but as far as the nudity factor, couch time element and the "approach policy" Hessen clubs are generally much better, at least in my experience. So it is a trade off really between certain advantages and disadvantages for either area. Other factors to consider are ease of access and size and variablility of the line-ups and the general service standards offered at these clubs.
Many of us can certainly relate to what you describe as an awkward situation in some "no approach" clubs where you sit on a girl's couch just to have a quick chat to gauge the chemistry or personality, and then you get red flags or something else that makes you loose interest in a girl, but it's tough to back out. I've found this "awkwardness" to be more accute at clubs like ACA and F39 (the old place on the fringe of Bochum). But at GT and LR, I found it less a factor, or in other words: I was able to chat and enjoy some "uncommitted" time with a girl at LR and GT more than at some of the other very strict "no approach" clubs.
But even in Hessen clubs like Sharks, it is tough to get much quality couch time with a girl unless you know eachother from previous sessions. In this particular aspect, Oase seems to work best for me. World second. Much more rare at NRW clubs in my experience.
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I don't why you seem to believe the quality at Oase has gone down. Your statement is certainly NOT based on direct experience or a recent visit, is it? Because I've just returned from a several days in Frankfurt and I found the quality of the line-ups at World and Sharks definitely displayed deterioration, but the line-ups at Oase (over several days and individual visits spanning about 3 weeks) blew away the competition from the other clubs. Couple that with the superior club atmosphere (compared to Sharks, for example) and one of the top outdoor areas, and the preferred "girls approach guys and engage in couch time" culture at Oase, I found it hard not to keep going back to this club vs the other options in / around town. You really should go and take a fresh look before you decide the line-up is deteriorated based on (sometimes unreliable and possibly biased) 2nd-hand information. I think you will be impressed with the place right now.
OMy problem with Oase was a significant lack of daytime talent, there were more girls in the evening but the daytime action was severely lacking. What use is the garden if there aren't any smoking hot naked girls to look at while your relaxing on your lounge chair? There are enough good lookers at Oase to keep one busy at night but not having much of a selection during the day throws off the game plan of guys who like to fuck throughout the entire day and not cram 5 girls into the evening. I do find it interesting that you compared Oase to World and Sharks but not to Mainhattan or Palace (not that I go to Palace anymore). Mainhattan and World might not have the best lineup compared to Oase but I found the talent to be evenly spread throughout the day.
My problem with Oase was a significant lack of daytime talent, there were more girls in the evening but the daytime action was severely lacking. What use is the garden if there aren't any smoking hot naked girls to look at while your relaxing on your lounge chair? As far as Hessen clubs go, the general rule nowadays is that the line-up will be significantly better during evenings / nights than daytime. This may have something to do with less men visiting these clubs before 17.00, whereas just a few years back Oase used to boast a pretty decent and strong (relative to other area clubs) daytime line-up.
Well, I don't know when you last visited Oase during daytime, but my impression from speaking to a number of pretty desirable girls at Oase who were packing up at around 22.00 (because they claimed they'd been working since the morning) was that over the month of June, the daytime line-up at Oase has improved markedly from where it was, say, a month or 6 weeks ago. Maybe your last visit to Oase fell withing the shadow Easter?
Anyway, my main point is that right now, Oase had the best and most extensive line-up or girls (with talent) between the three clubs I chose to visit, W and S being the other two. I've been twice to Mainhatten last year and really never liked the place. (There is an FKK axiom: Some clubs just don't work for certain guys, whilst the same club does work for others. Same with specific girls.) Palace I've pretty much given up on lately, unless I'm desparate, but I never give up on a place for ever, just for a while. I'll probably re-visit Palace some day in the distant future, but certainly not during the warmer months when an outside area is a facility to be used. BTW: To your comment "What's the use of an outside area when there are no smoking hot ladies around," etc: Well in June and July, it stays light outside til after 21.00, and the night shift arrives at 17-19.00. Plus there are other benefits to a club's garden area that don't involve sex or the ladies.
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CheekyDancer
07-02-14, 17:34
Can someone point me at the latest FKK map on google the search engine in here is a nightmare.
Can someone point me at the latest FKK map on google the search engine in here is a nightmare.Just type "monger map germany" into the google search box.
Anyway, my main point is that right now, Oase had the best and most extensive line-up or girls (with talent) between the three clubs I chose to visit
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I was there the first week of May and the last week of May, both saturday visits. The first week of May actually had the better lineup of the two visits. Again, you can't write off Oase but it is sad to see a club with such a huge garden not even bothering to open the outside bar in the spring.
Again, you can't write off Oase but it is sad to see a club with such a huge garden not even bothering to open the outside bar in the spring.I made several visits during June, from start of month through end. Each visit saw the outside bar up and running. In fact, there were three bars running: the main bar opposite reception; the "new bar" by the pizza oven; and the outside bar. Oase may well be considered a different club than it was in May: some changes took place. I saw many ex-Oase girls who had moved on to other clubs, suddenly were returning to Oase during June. They changed the food policy also. I must say, even though I entered with apprehensive expectations because of negative reports, what I actually saw in Oase was very satisfying: A bit like the good old days.
Oase still remains for me the best club in terms of line-up and other important factors (food being not one of those). It's also one of the best in FKKland (virtually the only big Hessen club) where one can get consistent couch time (and action!). And from what I observed on multiple visits to this club, I was not the only one enjoying this!
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Hessen Bub
07-02-14, 19:57
Oase lineup has improved. I found it superior to World and Sharks in the last weeks. Since they changed the food policy back to all-in the bar in the restaurant is only open from 6 pm.
HB.
I don't why you seem to believe the quality at Oase has gone down. Your statement is certainly NOT based on direct experience or a recent visit, is it? Because I've just returned from a several days in Frankfurt and I found the quality of the line-ups at World and Sharks definitely displayed deterioration, but the line-ups at Oase (over several days and individual visits spanning about 3 weeks) blew away the competition from the other clubs. I had not intended to spawn a debate about the best Hessen clubs. My impression of Oase was based on recent reports in this forum from the springtime. I know things come and go, so maybe the warmer weather and the now finished construction with more zimmers (less zimmer Stahls?) have attracted better talent back to Oase?
If so, I shall keep it as one of my options to enjoy the outdoor environment with a pretty girl of my choosing after a 2 hour ride from CGN, assuming that the weather is favorable during the time I have there. Last time I was there (two days) it was mid-February and enjoying the outdoor view was not in play, although I did take a quick walk in Hessen dress while there one afternoon. Unfortunately, no ladies joined me.
As for the monger that asked if the outdoors was only good for naked girls and fucking, what else would it be good for, LOL?
Since they changed the food policy back to all-in the bar in the restaurant is only open from 6 pm.
HB.So just what exactly is the food situation at Oase? Is there a free breakfast spread and a free dinner spread available? Or do you starve until 6 pm?
Can someone point me at the latest FKK map on google the search engine in here is a nightmare.In Goggle Maps I typed into the search field "FKK Clubs near Frankfurt".
This is what came up. Its pretty easy really.
https://goo.gl/maps/f1Eqm
Gustave1973
07-03-14, 15:12
Does anyone know if there has been an outbreak of STD's in FKK Clubs?
If yes, are we suppose to mention the name of the club here to warn our / other visitors?
Does anyone know if there has been an outbreak of STD's in FKK Clubs?
If yes, are we suppose to mention the name of the club here to warn our / other visitors?1. Don't take bareback full sex, as risk of catching Chlamydia or Gonnoreah is increased. Its very easy to catch. Fortunately its rarely if ever discussed, meaning FKK girls in general do not have it.
2. Herpes Types 1 (predominantly oral) and type 2 (predominantly genital) do get discussed from time to time. This would not be an outbreak. A reasonable percentage of girls at any club should be carriers of it, and then are often no signs when the virus is active ("shedding" So there is always a risk. Condoms can reduce the risk but not eliminate it.
Nothing I mention should be viewed as an outbreak. No one would know which girls or customers are Herpes carriers and when shedding virus.
Its very common to catch viruses like the flu and common cold from girls and visa versa. Some girls may not tongue kiss on the mistaken belief that it reduces their risks of getting sick. Inhaling near the other person's exhale is quite enough to catch these.
Finger in pussy can pick up germs and viruses, so be careful what you do with your fingers afterwards. I have caught some bacterial infection in the eye this year. Was cured by antibiotic drops and I don't know what it was or how was caught. Its possible I got it from a Frankfurt FKK girl. I would have more idea if I knew which bacteria it was. Doctor did not want to get it tested.
BboyCrok69
07-05-14, 01:23
What about the line-up in the first week of September in world or oase? Is it more or less strong? I know the most important girls in August are on vacation.
Can someone point me at the latest FKK map on google the search engine in here is a nightmare.Here is what you are looking for, Der Monger.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=210980961214256580520.00045d515d0f87adf527e&msa=0&dg=feature
What about the line-up in the first week of September in world or oase? Is it more or less strong? I know the most important girls in August are on vacation.Well even I am planning a trip to the Bigger FKK Clubs in the Hessen area in the first or second week of September. So it concerns me aswell, but what is it about most girls being on Holiday in August! Whats so special or peculiar about going on a Holiday only in August? And if they do go on Holiday in August, will most all girl be back by September 1st week or second week?
so i've been mongering for years in different countries but i'the never done a fkk club and i wanted to. encouraged by some great help from finnish fucker (thanks) i got myself to artemis in berlin. one of, if not the biggest fkk clubs in germany. i'the read several of the fkk forums before going, and some of the icebear forums (names for guys who go to fkk clubs) but i decided it might be useful for anyone using the fkk forums to get some first time tips on on "what happens" and "what's different" in a fkk club. so here goes:
1. i didn't get why in the forums lots of guys say they arrive at these clubs just after lunch and stay until after midnight. i now do. the beauty of these clubs is that there are facilities you really do use other than just taking in the sights of 80-100 naked women. honestly! you'll read about them here.
2. plucked up the courage, got myself in a taxi and arrived at artemis on a saturday around 4 pm. reception: walked in, greeted by clothed receptionist but immediately noticed two stunning naked women wondering through the reception area. both 9/10. neither approached or spoke to me. receptionist takes my €80 (i believe it is less than this in the clubs outside of berlin) which she says buys me food, soft drinks (hot or cold), access to all areas of the club but no sex. she calmly tells me its €60 for each 30 minutes with a girl in the room so €120 for an hour and so on. she hands me a long brown robe and puts on a wristband a bit like you get in a nightclub. this is so you can leave the club and re-enter later without paying the entrance fee again. finally, you get a locker key which you also wear on your wrist.
3. up to the lockers on the next floor – past another 4 fully naked beauties. clothes off and into locker. quick shower and into the robe. but dilemma – boxers on or off? i decide on off – what the hell.! splash of after shave and nervously out after collecting some silly but compulsory pink (yes pink) plastic wet shoes like pool shoes. do i put money in the robe pockets or not? i ask one guy getting ready and he says no – leave everything in the locker so i take his advice.
4. decide not to go straight to bar. go downstairs to check the place out. romanesque theécor. lots of naked girls at the top of the stairs and surrounding the indoor lovely pool – big enough to swim in properly. male professional masseur is giving a girl a massage on a massage table at the side of the pool. two saunas at poolside. one steam room and one (proper) turkish hammam – but scrub is extra €60 by same male masseur so i skip. bar at end of the pool area serves only soft drinks but has a huge tv screen with a number of guys (all in the same brown robes) at the bar watching the world cup – surrounded by lovely naked, or lingerie clad (but not covering tits or pussy) girls.
5. go to gym area – terrific fully equipped gym. next to it two sunbeds (euros to operate). then next to that the kino – cinema showing continual porn. i go in and immediately see three guys all leaning back, watching porn, naked, beers in hand, with three lovely blondes on their knees giving them blow jobs. amazing! i decide not to stay. i return to the gym, work out for 30 minutes (yes in the bloody brown robe! off to shower at poolside. whilst in shower a naked iranian stunner (10.10 if not better) called alina asks if i'the like her to join me and give me a rub. she is so stunning that i ask how much. free if you then take me to the room she says. as i am sweaty from the gym i politely decline but tell her i'll see her in the bar. she smiles, slaps my naked butt, winks and walks off – fully naked as all the girls are.
6. out of shower, new robe, and up to main bar. i go and ask for a beer and barmaid (dressed) asks for a plastic token. i tell her i don't understand. she explains that alcoholic drinks can only be paid for with these tokens which cost €10 each at reception. so back there to purchase a few, passing more and more naked beauties as i go.
7. back to bar, beer in hand and the lounge is a sight to behold. i've been to scandalo malaga, lady marmalade in london and vive in madrid but i've never seen a sight like this – literally 60+ lovely women, either fully naked or in lingerie which cannot cover breasts or fanny. whilst in most other types of clubs girls range in attractiveness i just could not get over the quality in this club. 7/10 meant the girl was below average. at least 50% of the girls were at least 9/10 and many complete miss world type stunners with incredible bodies. lots of silicone tits (but that doesn't bother me), lots of large breasted natural women, most slim, only one girl in the whole club i'the have rated lower than 5/10. amazing. as i'm at the bar several speak to me but it's not the heavy approached you get in other clubs. being surrounded by some many naked lovelies has a downside – i develop an involuntary boner at the bar, which is pushing against the robe and several girls notice, bawl laughing and seek to grab a hold! off to the locker room – boxers on!
8. decide not to partake straight away. off through the wonderful lounge where girls are splayed out on sofas (naked), some have butts in the air with pussy on show, guys lounging around in robes many with girls draped on them teasing. it was just amazing.
9. through lounge into food area. forums suggest the food is poor. i disagree. 4 really good choices, self-service, have as much as you want. i get a plate full and take it and my beer outside to the outdoor pool. it was a hot day. sun shining and there are about 15 naked lovely sunbathing around the pool and several in the hottub. i eat the food, back to bar, another beer and am joined by the stunning hungarian lorine. dark hair and body to die for. i confirm it's my first time. she asks if i want to take her to the room. i say i do but i want an hour not 30 minutes. great she says – in which case do i want to have some time together first? i ask how much, she laughs, tells me it's all included, but that if a blow job or hand job starts downstairs, or by the pool or in the cinema the hour time starts then. she tells me she is not a clock watcher – if i spend good money with her she won't be bothered about the clock. we go out to the outdoor pool. i buy her a vodka coke – same price for the girls drink as mine and we both get naked on the sun loungers. i cannot believe it. there are other guys about. and i'm no showoff normally but this just seems natural. i am not getting my kit off because i am well endowed – i'm not – i'm just normal – but i soon have a complete boner as she is rubbing suntan lotion everywhere. an hour later after swimming together, sunbathing, a couple of beers and a nice poolside massage she says it's time to go to the room.
10. we have an hour in the room, all services on offer but cim and anal are €50 extra. i decline both. bbbj is included in the going rate. same price for every girl in the club. they pay the same €80 to get into the club each day and they are then independent – they don't share their earnings at all with the club – so they will negotiate but cannot charge more than the standard rate. so negotiation is discounts for longer time – but she made no attempt to upsell – and indeed none of the 4 girls i had over 2 days did.
11. at the end of the hour i ask how much as i'm expecting to pay for the first hour by the pool etc. she says one hour is €120. i ask about the hour by the pool (fool but i felt bad and it was fabulous) she says if i want to give her a tip that is up to me but it is optional. she escorts me to the gents locker room, naked, where she is stood surrounded by about 8 guys all getting dressed or undressed, i go to my locker and get my cash and pay her. this is standard but if you want to take money in your robe it's up to you. i give her €50 tip and she is pleased, smiles, kisses the cheek and is gone.
12. into the pool bar area to recover. loads of guys watching the next footy match. i join them. on guy at the side interrupts the footy when the two girls wanking him off get him there and he lets out a moan. what was unreal is that nobody really stopped to watch them (the outer areas of the bar are darker), and though it was obvious this was happening people just carried on watching the game! a very attractive polish girl, pamela, sidles up to me, asks if i'the like the same as the guy who just popped, and i tell her that politely i'm watching the game for now.
13. several girls are at the bar in towels – covering up all. this means they are not available to work right now. they are really friendly, chat about the game, the club and one gives me a flash of her tits saying that they should be mine later! at half time, jump into sauna, 10 minutes, out, shower, robe back on and back to the game. a stunning brunette from moldova, ina, predicts the score. we disagree on it and she offers me a bet. if she is right, i go to the room after the game with her for one hour. if i get it right it's 30 minutes for only €30 (half price). great deal. i accept. we shake on it (hands! she spends the whole of the second half running her long nails up the inside of my thighs and onto the balls and i frankly don't care what the score is. neither of us has the score right. i am bursting so off we go. but she takes my into the kino. gets me in the seat, watching the porn, and gets on her knees and commences very slow but amazing bbbj. she is deliberately making it last. when i get close, she stops, takes me upstairs to the room, takes the tie of the robe, ties my hands to the bedpost and finishes the bbbj. which she makes last about another 20 minutes. down to the locker room, she says with the kino and the room it should be €60. i agree and tip her €20 for the brilliant service and we had much longer than 30 minutes. never come across a lack of upselling like this.
14. i'm not that young. 2 pops in a day is a minor miracle for me! but i just didn't want to leave! it's such a fantastic experience. i go to the bar, get another beer, lay down on one of the loungers in the main bar area and watch the professional (dressed at first) lap dancers (who are not available as wgs). several girls approach me but i explain i think i'm done for the day. two hotties from romania (both blonde – cannot remember second girls name but first was claudia) lie either side of me, naked and put their hands inside the robe and start playing. it's a quiet corner and nobody is really taking notice. i try to explain that i'm done. they ask me if they get another pop out of me if i will buy them both a drink at the bar – normal prices. i'm thinking they'll deserve that if they get an erection out of me! nearly half an hour later, with one of the dfk me for ages, and the other having got junior out and hammering him, i give way. third pop in the space of about 5 hours – last time i did that england did well in a world cup!
15. i decide i want some air. go to the food bar, small further dish of lovely grub, take it outside to pool area, watch the sun go down, get a coffee and vow that this will not be my last visit to a fkk club. it was just incredible.
16. returned the next day. fewer girls on a sunday but still a great selection. had more food, sauna, steam, no workout!, drinks, sport, even treated myself to the massage (which was great) and one pop only with a german stunner called ingrid who in heels must have been 6' 6". she was great, bit mechanical but had a great hour. hung around again for a bit, couple of beers, watched some action and then left.
fkk clubs are, imho, the best way to have fun with stunning young girls that i've come across anywhere in the world. if you've never done it – try it. it's not a mass orgy. they guys are all normal. i didn't see one arnie lookalike. there were fat and thin guys, black and white, asian and eastern europeans. they are from 20 years old (yes) to 80. the girls are top drawer. the facilities and the chance to mingle, chill, relax, sunbathe and watch porn with some gorgeous women will not be forgotten easily. i shall definitely be back at artemis – and will now certainly sample other fkk clubs in germany.
Member #4581
07-07-14, 03:22
Very good report and glad you had a good time. I had my first visit to fkk about a year ago and felt exactly like you and now am hooked and constantly look forward to, when I can be in ine of these clubs next.
You should visit the Hessen clubs. I liked Artemis but really love the Frankfurt clubs more, although Artemis can't be beat for public sex, even better than Oase I think, from the few clubs I have been to.
16. Returned the next day. Fewer girls on a Sunday but still a great selection. Had more food, sauna, steam, no workout!, drinks, sport, even treated myself to the massage (which was great) and one pop only with a German stunner called Ingrid who in heels must have been 6' 6". She was great, bit mechanical but had a great hour. Hung around again for a bit, couple of beers, watched some action and then left.
Yes you are quickly learning. Its better to have your first sex of the day than go for a Gym workout. You can get a gym workout in any city of the world. Why bother in an FKK, if you are not a regular. Perhaps some guys will work out to pose for girls I don't know.
Wearing shorts under robe is seen as being a prudish American or for a muslim maybe. Not really the done thing in Germany. You can shower naked in public, swim naked in public, have sex in public, etc. A robe or towel protects the furniture from your sweaty body. Shorts are seriously frowned on. Female cleaners always pass by where men are naked changing. They don't care if your dick is exposed. Doesn't interest them. There is nothing wrong with an exposed dick. Its just another part of the body. A bit different to the titillation value of nude girls.
Wearing shorts under robe is seen as being a prudish American or for a muslim maybe.Shorts are seriously frowned on.How about wearing undies under the Robe? Is that also Frowned upon? I was once wearing it! When while in the room (the girl claimed she was Czech) said, that can you first get off of your undies please. Because I am Naked you see. Amused me LOL!
Thanks Jnpr30. Berlin was easy to get to for me but Frankfurt is not. For my benefit and for all in the forum, can you tell us why you prefer the frankfurt clubs more? I want to know if its worth the trip there. Also, could you rank them giving your opinion of the top 5 (there seem a lot in frankfurt) and explain your reasons. That would be really helpful. Thanks
Very good report and glad you had a good time. I had my first visit to fkk about a year ago and felt exactly like you and now am hooked and constantly look forward to, when I can be in ine of these clubs next.
You should visit the Hessen clubs. I liked Artemis but really love the Frankfurt clubs more, although Artemis can't be beat for public sex, even better than Oase I think, from the few clubs I have been to..
Hi Syzygies. All noted. I only put mine back on when the boner I'd got at the surprise of seeing and being amongst so many naked lovelies was hard enough to knock nails in. And was clear to see against the robe! I think as you say, its necessary to get into the spirit of these clubs. Nakedness is very much the norm, so the wearing of shorts isn't necessary. I ended up loosening the robe so that it wasn't so obvious. I'm neither American or Muslim -- but I was being prudish. Hadn't been before and was a bit awkward about walking around with a boner on which was so obvious!! As for the workout. I loved that being part of the day. Just made it another activity. I really liked the fact that the whole time in a FKK club isn't just about the sex. To have a good workout, sauna, steam, then massage, then some food BEFORE the action made it great for me. I'm not sure the girls are bothered about anybody (let alone me!) posing. I got the impression that all guys are (rightly) treated the same. Would welcome any other words of wisdom you have about a thread I've started Artemis v Frankurt. Have you been to the clubs in the latter. Are they better / different than Artemis? If yes, why and how? Which do you prefer and why. Cheers.
Yes you are quickly learning. Its better to have your first sex of the day than go for a Gym workout. You can get a gym workout in any city of the world. Why bother in an FKK, if you are not a regular. Perhaps some guys will work out to pose for girls I don't know.
Wearing shorts under robe is seen as being a prudish American or for a muslim maybe. Not really the done thing in Germany. You can shower naked in public, swim naked in public, have sex in public, etc. A robe or towel protects the furniture from your sweaty body. Shorts are seriously frowned on. Female cleaners always pass by where men are naked changing. They don't care if your dick is exposed. Doesn't interest them. There is nothing wrong with an exposed dick. Its just another part of the body. A bit different to the titillation value of nude girls.
as for the workout. i loved that being part of the day. just made it another activity. i really liked the fact that the whole time in a fkk club isn't just about the sex. to have a good workout, sauna, steam, then massage, then some food before the action made it great for me.well each to their own. i am not attending fkk for wellness, food, or anything else much. for me the important thing is how great the naked girls look and the sex. maybe a bit of relaxation and chat to some fkk buddies when bored. i am not keen on when the girls are covering up partially as in dessous (underwear) days. i like girls to be completely naked as much as possible. its far more visually appealing to me, plus the benefit of knowing what you will get before buying.
sometimes (not often) girls want to have a peek at my dick or touch it in the lounge. it doesn't bother me. i think they are only pretending to be interested in it. maybe a sales technique. occasionally you see guys so comfortable being nude they will walk around with no robe or towel. having been a nudist in a past life, i could do that too, however, i wear a towel merely to conform to the norm to some extent. i refuse to wear a robe though. that feels over dressed to me. i have had sex outside and in the kino with others watching. i managed to ignore them. so after regular attendance at fkk, most prudish feelings disappear.
after a girl got me going, i did feel slightly embarrassed walking through the lounge with a tent erected under the towel, on the way to a session room. only slightly. at oase, i always use the showers that have girls walking past and able to see everything. there have been guys with boners on display in these showers. two buddies, both with boners one day. no big deal really. we assumed they overdosed on viagra most likely.
Member #4581
07-08-14, 03:08
Well, I am not much more experienced than you in FKKs. I have been to Artemis and about 4,5 times each to Oase and Sharks in Frankfurt. Thought about World but since I get just a few days to attend, I went back to the ones I know, as I do like both Oase and Sharks and unsure if world was going to be much better.
Why did I like Frankfurt? I think the girls were a bit more pretty and also the service was slightly better. I did like Artemis, but found that Oase and especially sharks had more of the girls I like (slim, young, natural tits, pretty face). I had sex in the kino in Artemis with all the girls (BBBJ from most of them, and fucked one girl right there in the kino, with another guy having fun with his girl in the couch in front of me), and I liked that part of Artemis, but you could also fuck in the kino at Oase. Frankfurt clubs are slightly cheaper, on the entry price and session price. Food was approximately equal at all places, although Oase used to be limited to once a day for free (apparently it is better now). I like the outside garden at Oase, so nice, and absolutely unbeatable in the summer day time. Sharks is also decent in the Sumer outdoors. But overall, I just like Sharks for the girls, so it is a personal taste, I guess. I did think the Artemis girls, some if them anyway, seemed to be hurried and gave perfunctory blow job while some girls at sharks seem to give blow job for 30,40 min non stop, no problem.
Thanks Jnpr30. Berlin was easy to get to for me but Frankfurt is not. For my benefit and for all in the forum, can you tell us why you prefer the frankfurt clubs more? I want to know if its worth the trip there. Also, could you rank them giving your opinion of the top 5 (there seem a lot in frankfurt) and explain your reasons. That would be really helpful. Thanks
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UltraHappy
07-08-14, 12:30
So just what exactly is the food situation at Oase? Is there a free breakfast spread and a free dinner spread available? Or do you starve until 6 pm?Breakfast buffet spread available all day until 4:30 - 5:30 pm. Technically, it's supposed to be available until 5:30 pm but I've seen it disappear earlier. Includes fried eggs, scrambled eggs, bread, and bacon in addition to other stuff that I wasn't interested in (German sausages, cheese, vegetables). The eggs were quite tasty. I was personally pleased with the breakfast.
From 6 pm until near closing, the traditional grilled buffet is available. Grilled meats, salad, some type of pasta that changes throughout the evening, bread and some other unknown thing. The pasta is usually worth avoiding. When the pasta is lasagna, it's not so bad -- otherwise avoid. You serve yourself so you no longer have to line-up like a mendicant in the old days. After a few days eating the same thing over and over again, you will be tempted to fork over the 10 Euros for the made-to-order food occasionally.
Restaurant is always available for ordering food for 10 Euros or more as before.
Many of us would think that having a boner under our robe or towel would be a good sign of advertising, just like hard nipples on a girl or a prominent set of (lower) lips. Heck, I'm even thinking of wearing some cock jewelry!
Hi Syzygies. All noted. I only put mine back on when the boner I'd got at the surprise of seeing and being amongst so many naked lovelies was hard enough to knock nails in. And was clear to see against the robe! I think as you say, its necessary to get into the spirit of these clubs. Nakedness is very much the norm, so the wearing of shorts isn't necessary. I ended up loosening the robe so that it wasn't so obvious. I'm neither American or Muslim -- but I was being prudish. Hadn't been before and was a bit awkward about walking around with a boner on which was so obvious!!
Hey guys, I'm back in Europe and will have a day in Frankfurt. Intend to go to Oase arriving at about 8:30 pm. Anyone want to meet up? I'm Canadian, but last time I was there I had a nice chat with a fellow ISGer from the US. Looking forward to seeing the girls at Oase again, I see from the forum chatter that the lineup seems to be rebounding back to good quality again. That's good, even though I don't like desous tag Thursday. Unfortunately the only the day I had. Anyway, let me know, either by replying here or PM.
Are.
Hello,
I'm a rookie monger (actually heavy monger in USA via online dating sites. 60+ scores (7-9's <29, in 2 yrs! But new to the FKK scene.
I just read the glowing review of FKK Artemis from Payforit.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin
How realistic is it to expect 8-10's at Artemis or the best Frankfurt FKKs? I like the FKKs that require women to be nude always and approach Men.
I realize its luck of the day / week / month (his was Sat. July 5, 4 pm).
What would you advise as a 5 day FKK trip: Frankfurt for 2 Days; Berlin for Fri-Sun?
I was actually planning on going to Moscow. But, this FKK scene sounds hotter for EU80 + 120 v. EU 500-1000 for 8-10's in Moscow Salons or escort sites.
Member #4581
07-09-14, 03:31
I am an American as well. I second what payforit said about FKKs. My first review written late 2013 reads very similar to his, you can look it up. I do not monger in thE US, but I can tell you that the majority of girls at FKKs (Oase and Sharks in Frankfurt, for example) are better than the top 25% of dancers at Mons Venus in Tampa or Mitchell Bros in San Fran or some if the top NYC strip clubs, no kidding. All of them stark naked, and begging you to fuck them right there and then if you want.
Hello,
I'm a rookie monger (actually heavy monger in USA via online dating sites. 60+ scores (7-9's <29, in 2 yrs! But new to the FKK scene.
I just read the glowing review of FKK Artemis from Payforit.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin
How realistic is it to expect 8-10's at Artemis or the best Frankfurt FKKs? I like the FKKs that require women to be nude always and approach Men.
I realize its luck of the day / week / month (his was Sat. July 5, 4 pm).
What would you advise as a 5 day FKK trip: Frankfurt for 2 Days; Berlin for Fri-Sun?
I was actually planning on going to Moscow. But, this FKK scene sounds hotter for EU80 + 120 v. EU 500-1000 for 8-10's in Moscow Salons or escort sites.
Jnpr,
I read your 11/13 review. Absolutely stunning.
I love the under 25, slim thin, model types; further this nude female parading all over sounds amazing and makes me think this is the Roman orgy I always wanted!
If they have that classic Slavic figure with wide pussy gap and swollen pink labia, I might be a goner!
I spent many years at Scores, and Ricks in Dallas. If these chicks are better than standard US strippers, I may be moving to Germany!
So. Do you advise a dual Frankfurt / Berlin trip or will I need a full Fri-Sun weeknd to fully experience each cities FKK in peak of week?
Thanks
has anyone sampled both moscow and german fkks recently.
i keep hearing from the moscow thread that the golden age of moscow mongering is over.
that now most clubs (nightflight, aurora) have 3rd world 5-7's and rest is fake pics salon / brothels or independents rep001tered in apt blocs.
seems like cost, random nature, safety? and high costs are making moscow not an efficient location.
i find russian women stunning. but, compared to fkk posts of spending 6-9 hours surrounded by pussies swanning by seems epic.
i have been to dusseldorf (worked for a bank there!) and oddly the colleagues never recommended a fkk. just the biergartens on river!
I have been to Dusseldorf (worked for a Bank there!) and oddly the colleagues never recommended a FKK. Just the Biergartens on river!And why did, your colleagues didn't recommend a FKK ever?
has anyone sampled both moscow and german fkks recently.
i keep hearing from the moscow thread that the golden age of moscow mongering is over.
that now most clubs (nightflight, aurora) have 3rd world 5-7's and rest is fake pics salon / brothels or independents rep001tered in apt blocs.
seems like cost, random nature, safety? and high costs are making moscow not an efficient location.
i find russian women stunning. but, compared to fkk posts of spending 6-9 hours surrounded by pussies swanning by seems epic.
i have been to dusseldorf (worked for a bank there!) and oddly the colleagues never recommended a fkk. just the biergartens on river!i've never been to russia km but i agree they are v attractive women. however, as a veteran monger, who only tried fkk for the first time 2 weeks ago, trust me. you should do it at least once in your life. go on a saturday. you will be surrounded by many beautiful women. several will indeed be russian (all naked, all eager, many stunning, at reasonable cost, and with great facilities. there is only one danger in selecting this option. you will want to do it far more often!
Jimmy Boy 99
07-10-14, 01:01
I will be in Frankfurt next Wednesday through Monday (possibly Tuesday). My current plan is World on Wednesday, Mainhattan on Thursday, World on Friday, Oase on Saturday, Sharks on Sunday, Oase on Monday. For those who are familiar with the current lineups at these clubs, is this a good plan? Is it better to go to Sharks on Saturday and Oase on Sunday? Is Oase the best club to go to on a Monday? Should I go to Sharks on Wednesday instead of World? Thanks.
PussyLiccker
07-10-14, 01:11
Question for those have FKK'd for the longest time When is the best time of the year to head to FKKs in the fall? I guess I'm asking when will the number of Romanians peak? I keep hearing they go on vacation during the summer. I'm sure they will start coming back. I'm curious around what part of fall, it's been peaking with girls consistently.
Banana Boi
07-10-14, 01:47
The girls will start returning when the Messe begins. You can check the specific city for when those dates are.
PussyLiccker
07-10-14, 02:01
The girls will start returning when the Messe begins. You can check the specific city for when those dates are.But, there is always Messe, it doesn't stop. What do you mean by Messe begins?
Banana Boi
07-10-14, 02:11
LOL I was looking up the dates and you already replied.
Automechanika starts in FRA Sep 16, ending Sep 20. The majority of NRW Messe start Sep 20. Pretty sure none are as big as Automechanika. In general, the girls will start returning a few days before those dates.
PussyLiccker
07-10-14, 02:13
LOL I was looking up the dates and you already replied.
Automechanika starts in FRA Sep 16. The NRW ones start Sep 20. In general, the girls will start returning a few days before those dates.Sounds like a good dates to do both Hesse and NRW. :o
Hello,
I'm a rookie monger (actually heavy monger in USA via online dating sites. 60+ scores (7-9's <29, in 2 yrs! But new to the FKK scene.
I just read the glowing review of FKK Artemis from Payforit.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin
How realistic is it to expect 8-10's at Artemis or the best Frankfurt FKKs? I like the FKKs that require women to be nude always and approach Men.
I realize its luck of the day / week / month (his was Sat. July 5, 4 pm).
What would you advise as a 5 day FKK trip: Frankfurt for 2 Days; Berlin for Fri-Sun?
I was actually planning on going to Moscow. But, this FKK scene sounds hotter for EU80 + 120 v. EU 500-1000 for 8-10's in Moscow Salons or escort sites.For a first time 5 day trip, I would split them between FRA and DUS. Skip Berlin. Rent a car.
Member #4581
07-10-14, 03:40
I did not visit the Dallas strip clubs ever, and I I was in Vegas clubs a long time ago (spearmint rhino I think) but used to visit LA strip clubs like Bobs classy lady or San Fran clubs and also the Tampa clubs as mentioned. I see that Mons is generally rated among the top 10 in the nation, and 20 years ago, even Bobs classy last in LA had beautiful girls. There was a girl at Bobs 20 years ago who I fell in love with and would have married her if she would let me, but alas no. LOL.
Anyway, I think the girls at the FKKs I visited, like Sharks and Oase were pretty good and as I said on par or better than many at the US strip clubs. Many or most of them have good to great figures. Ok, some regulars here have very high standards, but in my view, by most people's standards, the fkk girls have great figures. Most girls are below 30, many are less than 25. I think many girls have cute faces too, although face is more subjective than other body parts. But at each club, you will fund enough cute faces with great bodies.
Other than sharks and Oase, I have been to just Artemis in Berlin but I had a slight preference for the Frankfurt clubs, but Artemis is also pretty decent. If you have just 3,4 days, I would spend it in Frankfurt alone. There are enough clubs, including World which I never visited but is supposed to be good. Not to mention Palace and a few smaller ones. Why shuttle between cities, unless you want to do sight seeing in Berlin (it is a beautiful city though). Also, the NrW clubs are somewhat close to frankfurt if you have even more time but I have never been to them either. Perhaps one day.
Jnpr,
I read your 11/13 review. Absolutely stunning.
I love the under 25, slim thin, model types; further this nude female parading all over sounds amazing and makes me think this is the Roman orgy I always wanted!
If they have that classic Slavic figure with wide pussy gap and swollen pink labia, I might be a goner!
I spent many years at Scores, and Ricks in Dallas. If these chicks are better than standard US strippers, I may be moving to Germany!
So. Do you advise a dual Frankfurt / Berlin trip or will I need a full Fri-Sun weeknd to fully experience each cities FKK in peak of week?
Thanks
LOL I was looking up the dates and you already replied.
Automechanika starts in FRA Sep 16, ending Sep 20. The majority of NRW Messe start Sep 20. Pretty sure none are as big as Automechanika. In general, the girls will start returning a few days before those dates.Which means, 1st or 2nd week of September the girls will return so indeed starting September 15th would be a good time and season to visit the FKK's in the Hessen Area? Is it?
You know when you are trouble when, a few weeks before your pending NRW trip, you look at every attractive girl and peg whether she would be better suited to an FKK (I. E. Naked in heels), a Saunaclub, a Partytreff, or Gangbang party, LOL.
I have to say, as a well traveled international executive. I have never seen anything like these FKKs websites (World, Oases, Artemis & Sharks).
In NYC, London, Paris, LA the equivalent brothel, libertine, swingers, sex clubs, etc look like motels or dungeons out of the movie Hostel!
I imagine the reality is there is some wear & tear to these facilities, overall, sill the scale of it all is mine boggling.
Is the free food buffet at Oases, World, Sharks. Available always, form 17 h-20 h or does it vary daily?
Which means, 1st or 2nd week of September the girls will return so indeed starting September 15th would be a good time and season to visit the FKK's in the Hessen Area? Is it?Don't forget to check the hotel prices for this date before booking your flight ;).
Don't forget to check the hotel prices for this date before booking your flight ;).Just noticed the hotels I booked for my trip around this time have almost doubled from a few weeks ago. Might be too late to find any decent deals.
Just noticed the hotels I booked for my trip around this time have almost doubled from a few weeks ago. Might be too late to find any decent deals.Thanks for the update. I may need to look into airbnb since I plan to be in FKKs in September.
If they have that classic Slavic figure with wide pussy gap and swollen pink labia, I might be a goner!
I spent many years at Scores, and Ricks in Dallas. If these chicks are better than standard US strippers, I may be moving to Germany!
I'm a "gap" man myself and like slim but with a good thigh to waist ratio, and I call these girls the "gazelles" although I copied the term from maybe Basketcase.
I used to go to tabletops and wasted a lot of money in my home country. However very rarely got to fuck a tabletop girl. Once I tried FKK (with the full sex), I did not see the need to attend tabletop or strip clubs ever again. Cured me quickly. I still like to watch naked girls dancing in Bangkok go-go but doesn't cost that much, and you can take the girls away for reasonable priced sex when desired.
So. Thank you all for the education on FKKs.
One clarification; I am less interested in GFE and more interested in women who enjoy an extended vigorous fucking. Somewhat rough sex.
Would the following be allowed OR get me thrown out, banned or deported?
-Deep throat blow-job gagging.
-Very hard pounding / jack hammering.
-Deep drilling from behind with cervix pounding.
-Hair pulling.
-Light slapping on face.
-Very hard slapping on ass. Leave five finger print.
-Stuffing fingers in mouth.
-Folding arms square from behind; holding forearms and deep doggie.
-Using bathrobe belt to tie wrists and giving hard doggie.
-Spreading legs 180 degree apart and pounding very hard.
-Cumming in face.
-Fingering inside pussy G-spot till squirting or pissing.
-Wips, crops, and S&M equipment in S&M area of club (extra EU# charge?
I have done above with about 60 women off USA dating sites in last 4 years it appears to now be common or expected!
Kave Man. I think you need to be cautious. You would need to negotiate with the girl for soem of your items (tying up, marks etc and probably pay extra). Most of the girls are surprisingly prim and proper although occasionally there are girls whose natural preference is for rough sex. Some of your items (fingers in mouth, hair pulling, light slapping, cervix pounding) can be included in a session without extra charge if the girl enjoys it: if you have to negotiate for these in advance then it is likely to be a bit of a disappointment (in my opinion) as the girl will be doing it only for money with no element of enjoyment. Girls are used to customers who are quite rough and pound for the whole session: however very few girls enjoy this. Getting girls to do what you want in FKK will be a bit of hit and miss affair, but when it works it will be very special.
Soem of your items are not exceptional. Coming in face is a standard extra, and folding arms from behind for doggie, or spreading legs is quite normal and never incurs any extra charges.
Given your wishes for leaving marks and tying up, I think you might consider also trying for a specialised provider outside an FKK.
So, although the sex you want may be rough, provided you approach the issue with sensitivity and are prepared to go with the flow, I think you should have a good deal of success.
The only thing that will get you thrown out is non-consensual activity.
So. Thank you all for the education on FKKs.
One clarification; I am less interested in GFE and more interested in women who enjoy an extended vigorous fucking. Somewhat rough sex.
-Deep throat blow-job gagging.
-Very hard pounding / jack hammering.
-Deep drilling from behind with cervix pounding.
-Hair pulling.
-Light slapping on face.
-Very hard slapping on ass. Leave five finger print.
-Stuffing fingers in mouth.
-Folding arms square from behind; holding forearms and deep doggie.
-Using bathrobe belt to tie wrists and giving hard doggie.
-Spreading legs 180 degree apart and pounding very hard.
-Cumming in face.
-Fingering inside pussy G-spot till squirting or pissing.
Although I have never been with her, I am sure blonde Italian Sylvana with a stripper's body physique and swollen pink labia (who is currently at FKK Sharks though has been known to work also at FKK Paradise and FKK World) should be able to accommodate all of your needs as described above.
On the contrary, she may end up ravaging you rather than you on her, LOL.
Enjoy your time in Frankfurt and/or Berlin and report back on your adventures. It will be an eye opening experience for you for sure :)
Howie
Hessen Bub
07-11-14, 20:45
Claudia (Ex-Jenny at Oase, Paradise) at Globe will do all this with pleasure.
http://www.club-globe.ch/main/superstars/detail.php?id=1519
HB.
Although I have never been with her, I am sure blonde Italian Sylvana with a stripper's body physique and swollen pink labia (who is currently at FKK Sharks though has been known to work also at FKK Paradise and FKK World) should be able to accommodate all of your needs as described above.
On the contrary, she may end up ravaging you rather than you on her, LOL.
Kave Man may have some liking for strange or strong stuff, but telling him to look for Silvana seems to me quite teasing: he wants girls under 25, slim with good bodies. The Silvana who used to work in World, at least the one I know, is more than 25... per leg, an old lady kept together by plastic surgeons.
Even if I had no clue about her skills, I was trying to figure out how could a customer choose her among so many young girls who could well be at least her daughters... actually, mostly, her grand-daughters
Perfectionist
07-12-14, 05:32
Hi all,
This is my first post on this site having accidentally stumbled upon Goldentime in Vienna. I am now a fully fledged lover of FKK!
My quest quite simply is to appreciate the beautiful eastern european ladies who have been blessed with the perfect ass!
Having first come acrosss Goldentime in April 13 I can happily say I have made 14 trips to a variety of FKK clubs. I'm hooked!
I have frequented Goldentime, Oase, The World, Palace and Artemis.
For those of you of have heard of the FKK clubs and are looking to visit for the first time then here is my verdict of my visits so far!
Palace. I was really disappointed with this place. It is dark and seedy and the girls are very pushy. The standard of ladies in July 13 was not so great if you are looking for stunners. In here it appears the 50 euro price is the minimum with most girls looking to upsell. This place is an indoor establishment only. I appreciate girls change regularly but for those of you looking to visit an FKK for the first time, this is not the one for you.
Artemis. Again, like Palace I was left disappointed. I was led to believe this was the cream of FKK clubs. Sadly most of the girls upsell and the entrance to the main area is like walking into a goldfish bowl and then walking the gauntlet. I had planned on doing a 2 nighter here but instead took a very very long drive from Berlin to Frankfurt to visit Oase. The standard of ladies at Artemis was good but not great although the numbers were good and the building had beautiful decor aswell as an outdoor area for sunbathing, relaxing or swimming.
The World. I arrived on a sunny day and was impressed right from the location venue. The layout of the World is first class. For those who enjoy outdoor sex and voyeurism this is the place to be! The eating area is the best of all the FKK clubs. There is a canteen where you can eat as much as you want and the food is great. For those who like their beer it is included in the entrance fee. Unlike the others that only include soft drinks. The only negative for me is that there were not enough stunners for my taste. I am a perfectionist who as previously mentioned adores the stunners who are blessed with an amazing ass. Think J Lo or Rihanna!!
Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place. This is largely down to several ladies (one in particular) who are absolute stunners with the most amazing butts!! I just love taking one or two at a time to the cinema room where they will pleasure you (BBBJ) at no extra charge and then take you to one of the rooms. Inside or outside. A big plus for me is that there is a 24 hr card casino adjoining the club and you are allowed to enter and exit at your will. There is a buffett bar which does not disappoint. The club is not big but the ladies are plentiful. There is a small outside area but no lawn area. Entrance fee is 90 euros and the ladies 60 euros which is 20 euros more than entrance to the others and 10 euros more for the girls. I have not experienced any upsell here in the 7 visits made so far!
Oase (Frankfurt) - This is my favourite place with Goldentime running a close second. The standard of ladies is excellent with several stunners who know how to please! Again a visit to the cinema to get acquainted and then a visit to one of the wall to wall mirrored Egyptian themed rooms. My last visit I came across a Shakira lookalike who had what I can only describe as the best ass I have ever had the pleasure of pounding again and again! The outdoor area is large and has a great relaxation area whilst needing that downtime before the next conquest.
I am shortly to return and have found an ideal way to appreciate my 2 favourites. Goldentime in Vienna and Oase in Frankfurt. For those on a budget this is an ideal way to maximise a 2 day trip if time is of the essence. Get a flight to Frankfurt Main and then a train to Friedrichsdorf. For those who really want to be smart detrain at Friedrichsdorf and take a local train first stop to Burgholzhausen. From there turn on your mapping if you having this on your phone and type in OASE address and it is a beautiful 15 minute walk through along the country road to the gates of paradise!! In other words 4 euros gets you from the airport to OASE or for those who have deep pockets get a taxi!! Having spent the full day at Oase into the early hours take a 10 euro taxi to Friedrichsdorf at 4. 30 am and then take the train to Frankfurt Main where you can then board the 6. 16 am Ice Train direct from Frankfurt to Vienna. A 6 hour journey. The seats are very comfortable and saves you having to book a hotel! On arrival in Vienna take a 4 euro train journey to Wien where it is then a 5-10 minute walk to Goldentime.
I hope this helps those who are intrigued! For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!
UltraHappy
07-12-14, 17:50
Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place.
Oase (Frankfurt) - This is my favourite place with Goldentime running a close second. The standard of ladies is excellent with several stunners who know how to please!
Having spent the full day at Oase into the early hours take a 10 euro taxi to Friedrichsdorf at 4. 30 am and then take the train to Frankfurt Main where you can then board the 6. 16 am Ice Train direct from Frankfurt to Vienna. A 6 hour journey. The seats are very comfortable and saves you having to book a hotel! On arrival in Vienna take a 4 euro train journey to Wien where it is then a 5-10 minute walk to Goldentime.
I hope this helps those who are intrigued! For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!Thank you for your report on Goldentimes in Vienna. I am indeed intrigued by your idea of spending all night at Oase and then boarding the morning 6:16 am train to Vienna. I've never taken one of the regional trains. Can you lay down and take a nap on these trains? Are the seats conducive to sleeping? Or are they like airplane seating? How far do the seats recline for example? Does the morning 6:16 am train have lots of extra seats, allowing you to lay down?
Probably a silly question, but what prevents someone from walking off the train with your luggage at the next stop?
Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place.
For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!Hey Perfectionist,
Good first post. Hopefully a first of many to come.
I too am one of the few here who likes GT Vienna and rate it as one of my top go to places. As a side note, they will be opening a second location in Linz later this year.
It's unfortunate that you do not have PM functionality as it would be good to share some war stories with you and the girls that you have seen there.
With respect to other clubs and stunners, I suggest you try Globe in Zurich. It's not everyone's cup of tea but for me I consider it having a higher quality line up average and service over most of the higher top end German FKK clubs but it comes at a price. You will pay at least twice as much.
Howie
Thank you for your report on Goldentimes in Vienna. I am indeed intrigued by your idea of spending all night at Oase and then boarding the morning 6:16 am train to Vienna. I've never taken one of the regional trains. Can you lay down and take a nap on these trains? Are the seats conducive to sleeping? Or are they like airplane seating? How far do the seats recline for example? Does the morning 6:16 am train have lots of extra seats, allowing you to lay down?
Probably a silly question, but what prevents someone from walking off the train with your luggage at the next stop?I am a big fan of Golden time Vienna as well but I don't think I would leave FRA to go to VIE just for Golden Time. My humble opinion.
TankTank123
07-13-14, 01:42
Thank you for your report on Goldentimes in Vienna. I am indeed intrigued by your idea of spending all night at Oase and then boarding the morning 6:16 am train to Vienna. I've never taken one of the regional trains. Can you lay down and take a nap on these trains? Are the seats conducive to sleeping? Or are they like airplane seating? How far do the seats recline for example? Does the morning 6:16 am train have lots of extra seats, allowing you to lay down?
Probably a silly question, but what prevents someone from walking off the train with your luggage at the next stop?I have taken this 6 am train to Vienna last year. It is not a regional train, but an ICE. The seats recline less than an economy class plane seat, so you can't lie down unless the neighbouring seat is empty. Seats have to be reserved, and it was full the day I took it. The luggage rack area could be far from your seat, so there is nothing preventing someone from taking your luggage if you are asleep. If it is not too large, you can put it overhead, which would be safer. My train started 1 hour late even though Frankfurt was the start point of the journey, as the locomotive did not arrive in a Frankfurt on time. Because it started late, the delays accumulated as it had to stop before entering some other stations to wait for a slot. I did not reach Vienna till almost 4 pm. To get to Goldentime from Westbahnhof, take tram 6 to Geiereckstrasse, which is then just a 2-3 minute walk to Goldentime.
I also took the 8.xx am train earlier this year. The journey was just as bad, as the train halted in Nuremberg for a good 3 hours due to some signaling problem. I reached Vienna later than 6 pm and body was so tired I had to go straight to my hotel to sleep.
I am therefore rather unlucky compared to Perfectionist, and will probably fly the next time.
Brazil Specialist
07-13-14, 06:28
I will repost this on the FKK General Info board, as this is a bit off topic here. I suggest you reply there and we continue discussion there.
Can someone tell me how to get in contact with the site admin? An admin that can not increase his own message quote is really problematic. Maybe some admin can contact me from a a nick that actually can receive messages?
Admin has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.
Good news! Thanks for this info.
Better that the girls have some clothing, like underwear, dress or bikini. This is far more sexy and teasing.
I will visit thesseldorf next week.That is good for you, if you enjoy girls in lingerie. I personally hate the experience of taking a girl to a room to find out she has droopy small tits with stretch marks.
I want to be able to check out all girls and then decide what I want. So a FKK with topless girls is strongly preferred and saves me a lot of checking, guessing, and uncertainty.
Often I would pick a girl, had I seen her topless. I don't pick her, because I have no clue what a great set of boobs she has. A loss for everyone: the girl, me, and the club because I don't come back.
It is also strange, in Sauna Clubs some girls go topless. It actually seems the main dress code difference is that absolutely no men walk around with just towels.
Many don't realize there is a difference, some just assume the "FKK" was left off the name by accident. Or the club changed the way they operate. But you can see the heading of this thread is indeed 'sauna club'.
Fkk Mondial? Are the girls nude? If not, that headline should be changed. Same with Acapulco, who'ever started the thread incorrectly listed it as an Fkk club.Maybe they started as FKK and later changed? Is there any tendency towards more dress? Note also that the main topic here is.
Home.
Forum.
Europe.
Germany. FKK Clubs.
I was unaware, because until now I have never seen a single club that was not nude: Globe, Mainhattan, Oase, Sudfass, .
Also, I think most people don't know the fine details, FKK vs. Sauna Club. Also, even the club's web site often uses the term FKK and Sauna Club interchangeably. Often it says "Sauna Club" but in the title tag it says FKK. Also, German saunas, even for families, are all nude.
Some are called FKK Sauna Club.
I am quite disappointed to find out that girls at Living Room, and at Magnum, are not nude, rather wear bikinis or other skimpy outfit.
When I asked, they said they are not a FKK but a Sauna Club.
Where are the clubs with real nudes, like Oase, Mainhattan in Frankfurt, and Globe in Zurich, etc. ?Ok, to correct, topless would be good enough for me.
This is a bit off topic here, but anyone can give a list of true FKK clubs, and which ones are NOT? At least the ones that were FKK last year still are? Also, FKK clubs seem to have one lingerie day, and rumors are that some Sauna Clubs have at least 1-2 FKK days (which I could make an effort to pick).
I will repost this on the FKK General Info board, as this is a bit off topic here. I suggest you reply there and we continue discussion there.
Brazil Specialist
07-13-14, 06:38
Hey Perfectionist,
Good first post. Hopefully a first of many to come.
I too am one of the few here who likes GT Vienna and rate it as one of my top go to places. As a side note, they will be opening a second location in Linz later this year.
It's unfortunate that you do not have PM functionality as it would be good to share some war stories with you and the girls that you have seen there.
With respect to other clubs and stunners, I suggest you try Globe in Zurich. It's not everyone's cup of tea but for me I consider it having a higher quality line up average and service over most of the higher top end German FKK clubs but it comes at a price. You will pay at least twice as much.
HowieGood description of Globe. For those with more money then time, it is the place to go. The Swiss just do everything right. Also, I suppose, they get their pick of the girls, as the girls can make more money with less work (but with good discipline and behavior).
Hi all,
This is my first post on this site having accidentally stumbled upon Goldentime in Vienna. I am now a fully fledged lover of FKK!
My quest quite simply is to appreciate the beautiful eastern european ladies who have been blessed with the perfect ass!
Having first come acrosss Goldentime in April 13 I can happily say I have made 14 trips to a variety of FKK clubs. I'm hooked!
I have frequented Goldentime, Oase, The World, Palace and Artemis.
For those of you of have heard of the FKK clubs and are looking to visit for the first time then here is my verdict of my visits so far!
Palace. I was really disappointed with this place. It is dark and seedy and the girls are very pushy. The standard of ladies in July 13 was not so great if you are looking for stunners. In here it appears the 50 euro price is the minimum with most girls looking to upsell. This place is an indoor establishment only. I appreciate girls change regularly but for those of you looking to visit an FKK for the first time, this is not the one for you.
Artemis. Again, like Palace I was left disappointed. I was led to believe this was the cream of FKK clubs. Sadly most of the girls upsell and the entrance to the main area is like walking into a goldfish bowl and then walking the gauntlet. I had planned on doing a 2 nighter here but instead took a very very long drive from Berlin to Frankfurt to visit Oase. The standard of ladies at Artemis was good but not great although the numbers were good and the building had beautiful decor aswell as an outdoor area for sunbathing, relaxing or swimming.
The World. I arrived on a sunny day and was impressed right from the location venue. The layout of the World is first class. For those who enjoy outdoor sex and voyeurism this is the place to be! The eating area is the best of all the FKK clubs. There is a canteen where you can eat as much as you want and the food is great. For those who like their beer it is included in the entrance fee. Unlike the others that only include soft drinks. The only negative for me is that there were not enough stunners for my taste. I am a perfectionist who as previously mentioned adores the stunners who are blessed with an amazing ass. Think J Lo or Rihanna!!
Goldentime (Vienna) - I love this place. This is largely down to several ladies (one in particular) who are absolute stunners with the most amazing butts!! I just love taking one or two at a time to the cinema room where they will pleasure you (BBBJ) at no extra charge and then take you to one of the rooms. Inside or outside. A big plus for me is that there is a 24 hr card casino adjoining the club and you are allowed to enter and exit at your will. There is a buffett bar which does not disappoint. The club is not big but the ladies are plentiful. There is a small outside area but no lawn area. Entrance fee is 90 euros and the ladies 60 euros which is 20 euros more than entrance to the others and 10 euros more for the girls. I have not experienced any upsell here in the 7 visits made so far!
Oase (Frankfurt) - This is my favourite place with Goldentime running a close second. The standard of ladies is excellent with several stunners who know how to please! Again a visit to the cinema to get acquainted and then a visit to one of the wall to wall mirrored Egyptian themed rooms. My last visit I came across a Shakira lookalike who had what I can only describe as the best ass I have ever had the pleasure of pounding again and again! The outdoor area is large and has a great relaxation area whilst needing that downtime before the next conquest.
I am shortly to return and have found an ideal way to appreciate my 2 favourites. Goldentime in Vienna and Oase in Frankfurt. For those on a budget this is an ideal way to maximise a 2 day trip if time is of the essence. Get a flight to Frankfurt Main and then a train to Friedrichsdorf. For those who really want to be smart detrain at Friedrichsdorf and take a local train first stop to Burgholzhausen. From there turn on your mapping if you having this on your phone and type in OASE address and it is a beautiful 15 minute walk through along the country road to the gates of paradise!! In other words 4 euros gets you from the airport to OASE or for those who have deep pockets get a taxi!! Having spent the full day at Oase into the early hours take a 10 euro taxi to Friedrichsdorf at 4. 30 am and then take the train to Frankfurt Main where you can then board the 6. 16 am Ice Train direct from Frankfurt to Vienna. A 6 hour journey. The seats are very comfortable and saves you having to book a hotel! On arrival in Vienna take a 4 euro train journey to Wien where it is then a 5-10 minute walk to Goldentime.
I hope this helps those who are intrigued! For those of you who have frequented other FKK clubs and can recommend any stunners with amazing butts then I would be happy to hear from you!Great survey. Which of these are "Sauna Clubs" and NOT nude FKK? How to avoid the "Dessous Days" where even the FKK club girls wear lingerie and bathing suits?
It is also strange, in Sauna Clubs some girls go topless. It actually seems the main dress code difference is that absolutely no men walk around with just towels.
Ha Ha! Would I get spoken to if I had just a towel? I never wear a robe (its generally too hot for one thing). However, I am also not attending a "Sauna Club" so I don't understand the difference. Sauna doesn't interest me, and I prefer girls to be naked.
For those interested in Frankfurt club Dessous days (to avoid them), HB listed the days in a very recent post. Having accidentally attended Oase, on a Thursday Dessous once or twice, I now make every effort to avoid it. Sharks is good on a Thursday for me.
Perfectionist
07-14-14, 13:37
I have taken this 6 am train to Vienna last year. It is not a regional train, but an ICE. The seats recline less than an economy class plane seat, so you can't lie down unless the neighbouring seat is empty. Seats have to be reserved, and it was full the day I took it. The luggage rack area could be far from your seat, so there is nothing preventing someone from taking your luggage if you are asleep. If it is not too large, you can put it overhead, which would be safer. My train started 1 hour late even though Frankfurt was the start point of the journey, as the locomotive did not arrive in a Frankfurt on time. Because it started late, the delays accumulated as it had to stop before entering some other stations to wait for a slot. I did not reach Vienna till almost 4 pm. To get to Goldentime from Westbahnhof, take tram 6 to Geiereckstrasse, which is then just a 2-3 minute walk to Goldentime.
I also took the 8.xx am train earlier this year. The journey was just as bad, as the train halted in Nuremberg for a good 3 hours due to some signaling problem. I reached Vienna later than 6 pm and body was so tired I had to go straight to my hotel to sleep.
I am therefore rather unlucky compared to Perfectionist, and will probably fly the next time.Hi TankTank,
Sounds like you have just been unlucky as you said!
My train left on time and arrived as scheduled. My only disappointment was that I was unaware at the time that I need not have paid 134 euro for the one way ticket had I done more homework! This time however I have puchased an internet ticket in advance and paid only 34 euros for the ticket. Yes that is not a typo! 100 euro saved! As for luggage. What do you really need?? A towel or a robe was all I needed and I got those as part of the entrance fee!
So. I will ask a philosophical question of the more senior Mongers and the older gentlemen on looking back on money well spent or regrets?
My 5 day trip to Globe from USA will cost about $5000 ($2000 on Ladies / $3000 air / land / etc); might be $3500-4000 in future with better planning / travel rates.
At age 46. When I look back on the money spent in life and what pure enjoyment I have received; below activities have ranged from $5000-100,000 over last 20 years.
-Collecting (vintage watches, classic cars, Art, etc).
-Traveling (in search of pussy) not finding mostly.
-Girlfriends (travel, dating, presents, issues).
-Restaurants / Bars / Clubs in USA.
-Shopping (gadgets, clothes, gear, liquor, etc.).
-Escorts ($2500/4 gals).
My conclusion, by a very long % is money spent on pussy is 100% well enjoyed.
I assume most of you budget $5000-10,000 per year and make this part of your life relaxation / enjoyment and may have over time cut budgets of other activities will less "benefit".
When looking back I am assuming most have concluded that spending $$$ to enjoy sex with about 10 Women in 20's is never money mis-spent.
Trans Atlantic
07-15-14, 15:05
Hi TankTank,
Sounds like you have just been unlucky as you said!
My train left on time and arrived as scheduled. My only disappointment was that I was unaware at the time that I need not have paid 134 euro for the one way ticket had I done more homework! This time however I have puchased an internet ticket in advance and paid only 34 euros for the ticket. Yes that is not a typo! 100 euro saved! As for luggage. What do you really need?? A towel or a robe was all I needed and I got those as part of the entrance fee!Long distance trains in Germany are priced similar to airline pricing (advanced purchase tickets will be a lot cheaper than last minute purchase).
My 5 day trip to Globe from USA will cost about $5000 ($2000 on Ladies / $3000 air / land / etc); might be $3500-4000 in future with better planning / travel rates.
I'm confused why you are picking Globe. Frankfurt and Dusseldorf would offer better selection and lower costs.
Trans Atlantic,
I've read in multiple threads that the quality of girls at Globe.
Is superior to FKKs?
My type is 18-25, slim, thin, blond, spinners.
Keep reading model types are at Globe.
Mango Head
07-15-14, 16:11
So. I will ask a philosophical question of the more senior Mongers and the older gentlemen on looking back on money well spent or regrets?
I'm about your age, KaveMan, and have spent the better part of the last five years making bi-annual trips to the Germany specifically for FKKs or Berlin brothels. I supplement this with an occasional swing up to Canada. Given medical issues with my spouse, sex at home is not possible and has not been for nearly ten years.
I probably drop 15-20 K per year with escorts. This is not a minor piece of my annual income, but I set my limits, and it does not impact my broader financial goals. And like you, I count most of these dollars as extremely well spent (except when the services purchased are poor).
I struggled with enforced celibacy for the first five years after my marriage became sexless, but ultimately the stress became overwhelming. I won't generalize about all men, but my own biology simply cannot deal with the lack of intimacy, and I decided on escorts as the only viable way to lead a sane life. It's by no means a perfect situation, and I know that I am buying a fantasy, but my mental health has been far better since I started.
I'm sure we all ponder on the moral issues involved in our participation in this trade. For me, sex is a basic need, and every dollar I have spent with a woman in a mutually beneficial economic / emotional transaction has been a dollar well spent.
Perfectionist
07-15-14, 16:32
Thank you for your report on Goldentimes in Vienna. I am indeed intrigued by your idea of spending all night at Oase and then boarding the morning 6:16 am train to Vienna. I've never taken one of the regional trains. Can you lay down and take a nap on these trains? Are the seats conducive to sleeping? Or are they like airplane seating? How far do the seats recline for example? Does the morning 6:16 am train have lots of extra seats, allowing you to lay down?
Probably a silly question, but what prevents someone from walking off the train with your luggage at the next stop?Hi Ultrahappy,
I found it easy to sleep on these seats especially having had 6 good sessions at Oase before my journey! The ICE train leaves rather empty from Frankfurt and steadily fills up along the way although certainly nowhere near capacity. Some may consider a long journey to find another club but I see it as an adventure and a 34 euro mobile hotel!
Perfectionist
07-15-14, 16:40
Hi TankTank,
Sounds like you have just been unlucky as you said!
My train left on time and arrived as scheduled. My only disappointment was that I was unaware at the time that I need not have paid 134 euro for the one way ticket had I done more homework! This time however I have puchased an internet ticket in advance and paid only 34 euros for the ticket. Yes that is not a typo! 100 euro saved! As for luggage. What do you really need?? A towel or a robe was all I needed and I got those as part of the entrance fee!P.S. The nearest train station to Goldentime is actually Geiselbergstrabe! 2-3 minute walk.
I'm about your age, KaveMan, and have spent the better part of the last five years making bi-annual trips to the Germany specifically for FKKs or Berlin brothels. I supplement this with an occasional swing up to Canada. Given medical issues with my spouse, sex at home is not possible and has not been for nearly ten years.
I probably drop 15-20 K per year with escorts. This is not a minor piece of my annual income, but I set my limits, and it does not impact my broader financial goals. And like you, I count most of these dollars as extremely well spent (except when the services purchased are poor).
I struggled with enforced celibacy for the first five years after my marriage became sexless, but ultimately the stress became overwhelming. I won't generalize about all men, but my own biology simply cannot deal with the lack of intimacy, and I decided on escorts as the only viable way to lead a sane life. It's by no means a perfect situation, and I know that I am buying a fantasy, but my mental health has been far better since I started.
I'm sure we all ponder on the moral issues involved in our participation in this trade. For me, sex is a basic need, and every dollar I have spent with a woman in a mutually beneficial economic / emotional transaction has been a dollar well spent.Mango,
Thanks for response.
In my introductory posts on the Russia / Moscow forum I highlighted my "free mongering" strategy in the USA; essentially, using a numbers game strategy (50 emails / day, 18,000 yr, less than 0. 25% success) most men with jobs, income, homes can bang dozens of young Women on USA internet dating sites. I banged 60 in the 6-9 , 30 range in 4 yrs. Many were 9's (models, actresses, dancers, students) and I spent max $25,1 drink, back to home nearby.
Its a good alternative, if budget or travel or lifestyle is an issue between trips.
Like all addictions, you have to AMP it up, and now I need 9-10 spinner models or I just shut down.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow/page4
So. I will ask a philosophical question of the more senior Mongers and the older gentlemen on looking back on money well spent or regrets?
My 5 day trip to Globe from USA will cost about $5000 ($2000 on Ladies / $3000 air / land / etc); might be $3500-4000 in future with better planning / travel rates.
At age 46. When I look back on the money spent in life and what pure enjoyment I have received; below activities have ranged from $5000-100,000 over last 20 years.
-Collecting (vintage watches, classic cars, Art, etc).
-Traveling (in search of pussy) not finding mostly.
-Girlfriends (travel, dating, presents, issues).
-Restaurants / Bars / Clubs in USA.
-Shopping (gadgets, clothes, gear, liquor, etc.).
-Escorts ($2500/4 gals).
My conclusion, by a very long % is money spent on pussy is 100% well enjoyed.
I assume most of you budget $5000-10,000 per year and make this part of your life relaxation / enjoyment and may have over time cut budgets of other activities will less "benefit".
When looking back I am assuming most have concluded that spending $$$ to enjoy sex with about 10 Women in 20's is never money mis-spent.Completely agree with the philosophy. My spending habits and tastes are similar to yours and I think every dollar is worth it. We all run into a rare ripoff but I chalk that to cost of doing business. My experiences in Europe alone range from fantastic 40 euro 30 minute romp in an FKK to 1000 euro escorts and all are worth it.
I can see the allure in escorting as opposed to 30 minute encounters but as I get older, I am more getting more into 1 or 2 hours of room time at FKKs. When in South america, Central america or in Caribbean I almost always do overnights with the girls. It is more affordable and the latinas' passion is hard to beat.
Trans Atlantic
07-16-14, 02:49
Trans Atlantic,
I've read in multiple threads that the quality of girls at Globe.
Is superior to FKKs?
My type is 18-25, slim, thin, blond, spinners.
Keep reading model types are at Globe.I think you will find the same in German FKKs. Majority are Romanian. From some of the reviews from members who been to both Zurich and Germany, it seems like the only difference is that you are paying for the higher cost of living in Zurich for the same type of girl. If you do make it to Globe and Germany, I'll be interests to hear comparisons.
Hessen Bub
07-16-14, 17:43
Depends on your personal taste. I have sessions with one or two dozen girls in German clubs that before are after have been working at Globe. I don't like silly cones or tattoos, I am into slim young natural girls. So I stay in Germany and fuck more girls at half the price. Been to Globe twice. Service level is high but uniform and standardized. No surprises. Both ways. YMMV.
HB.
StarletVoyager
07-16-14, 18:19
I did the vienna frankurt trip in June and I would advise 1st class for comfort. On board restaurant etc all very good. Again I like travelling to experience new clubs. Book online at obb.
PussyLiccker
07-17-14, 02:09
I wuz at Globe, and did not session because I'm a budgeted monger. I would think without being budget concious, the experience would be a whole lot better. I had Germany on top of my mind when I was looking at the line-up, and it wasn't worth it to me. I was there at the begining of the week so possibly the stunners weren't there. It was quite opposite of what I imagined as I was expecting only stunners for the going rate, and to my eyes, same girls, but much smaller in quantity, and way higher in price. I was also quite surprised how many older ladies were working there. I went there to see for myself, and I ruled it for my future plans. Even with some stunners showing up, it not worth it for me to go there any pay more than double, and other high expenses that is added for being in Switzerland. Germany has loads of clubs, bigger clubs, more girls, more chances of stunners. Don't see much reason to go back there.
Its somewhat bizzare and baffling that there can such wide array of conflicting reports on Globe.
I realize some reports were random-lineup (Monday or Sunday) and others are particular in their tastes or difficult (expensive late night taxis!
But, it seems like the definition of "stunner" / 9-10 is known worldwide; ie, Met-Art girls are stunners / 10's (see link).
http://guests.met-art.com/archive/2014/07/
In addition, the pics on Globes website are of girls no older than 25; I realize some took these pics in 2010 and 5 yrs of banging 10-15 guys a day adds up!
So. (taking out the line-up risk, and and envy / angst of paying double v. FKK):
"Are the majority of girls at Globe Stunners / 9-10 on peak Thur-Sat shifts?
Trans Atlantic
07-17-14, 22:51
Its somewhat bizzare and baffling that there can such wide array of conflicting reports on Globe.
I realize some reports were random-lineup (Monday or Sunday) and others are particular in their tastes or difficult (expensive late night taxis!
But, it seems like the definition of "stunner" / 9-10 is known worldwide; ie, Met-Art girls are stunners / 10's (see link).
http://guests.met-art.com/archive/2014/07/
In addition, the pics on Globes website are of girls no older than 25; I realize some took these pics in 2010 and 5 yrs of banging 10-15 guys a day adds up!
So. (taking out the line-up risk, and and envy / angst of paying double v. FKK):
"Are the majority of girls at Globe Stunners / 9-10 on peak Thur-Sat shifts?
Your first sentence betrays your belief that Globe is a mystical harem where Met-Art models hang out. You may very well find that belief severely challenged once you arrive at the club. As you have never been to a FKK / sauna club. I think you would be better off spending the five days in Frankfurt and/or Dusseldorf so that you can experience a number of different clubs and save Globe and Bumsalp for a future trip.
One factor you may want to consider is that the reason there is a wide range of reports is because, chances are that, Globe is just like any other German club. Don't let the higher price mislead you into thinking that they attract more stunners. You're merely paying for the higher cost of doing business in Switzerland. I've been told by a girl who worked in Switzerland and Germany that at the end of the day, they make about the same due to the higher cost of living. In other words, from the girl's perspective, Globe is not necessarily more attractive than a German club.
By investing the five days in just two clubs Globe and Bumsalp (ones you have never been to before), you run a high risk of a dismal trip whereas you would get more selections and higher chances of meeting stunners by club hopping in Frankfurt and/or Dusseldorf. The lower costs in Germany is just icing.
One factor you may want to consider is that the reason there is a wide range of reports is because, chances are that, Globe is just like any other German club. Don't let the higher price mislead you into thinking that they attract more stunners. You're merely paying for the higher cost of doing business in Switzerland. I've been told by a girl who worked in Switzerland and Germany that at the end of the day, they make about the same due to the higher cost of living. In other words, from the girl's perspective, Globe is not necessarily more attractive than a German club.
Depends on the girl. Why do you think they put with higher costs of living, stricter working conditions, the need for (and cost of) short term permits? So that they can make net the same money as they do in Germany?
The top performers earn more in any club, but in Switzerland they earn much more than they do in Germany.
If a working girl can't net significantly more in Zurich than in Frankfurt / Dusseldorf, then she shouldn't be there.
Girls like these two are making much more than they would in Germany.
http://www.club-globe.ch/main/superstars/detail.php?id=1774
http://www.club-globe.ch/main/superstars/detail.php?id=1486
Hessen Bub
07-18-14, 06:53
Sure the TOP Acts are making more money at Globe than they are st German clubs. Price per half hour is more than double what it is in Germany. So if they make the same number of rooms they automatically make more money. Even with the higher cost they have to take.
For me it is just paying more than double and getting to fuck the same girls as in Germany. Only advantage. If it is one. Is the lower risk of getting bad service or getting sharked. The standardization of service at Globe also levels out room experiences, for me it does make the whole thing boring.
HB.
First time visit to Frankfurt.
First time visiting / posting on this site. Hope you guys are all going well!
I am sitting on a plane waiting to take off from London to Frankfurt on a spur of the moment, relaxing getaway!
Very inexperienced in this area but started surfing the web on what to do in Frankfurt to unwind and became aware of the FKK clubs and was intrigued!
Basically, what I think I am looking for is a a chilled out place to relax during the day. Which means nice surroundings, sauna, pool, food. In an erotic environment. So good looking girls, all shapes and sizes, not top pushy but willing to engage.
Sex is obviously on my agenda but am more interested in erotic entertainment. Lots of playing around and having fun!
Also want a place that is quite lively in the evening. Almost like a club atmosphere.
Have reading through pages and pages of reviews on this wonderful and informative site. All the main places (palace, Oase, Mainhatten) but feel as if I'm picking a name out of a hat!
Any advice would be much appreciated!
Also, if anyone happens to be in Frankfurt his weekend, would be more than happy to buy you a few drinks to tap your knowledge.
All the best.
Roy
Trans Atlantic
07-18-14, 16:09
Depends on the girl. Why do you think they put with higher costs of living, stricter working conditions, the need for (and cost of) short term permits? So that they can make net the same money as they do in Germany?
The top performers earn more in any club, but in Switzerland they earn much more than they do in Germany.
If a working girl can't net significantly more in Zurich than in Frankfurt / Dusseldorf, then she shouldn't be there.
Girls like these two are making much more than they would in Germany.
http://www.club-globe.ch/main/superstars/detail.php?id=1774
http://www.club-globe.ch/main/superstars/detail.php?id=1486Bolded the text in your response that illustrates my point that Kave Man should not think Globe is filled with met-art models. I'm sure the top earners in Globe would be stunners and/or provide off the charts service (and make more than the German top earners). But then you can say the same for the top earners in the top Germany clubs as well in terms of looks and service..
Let's say Kave Man does 15 girls over 5 days. I think he has more chances of success at finding 15 stunners distributed over several clubs in Germany vs. finding 15 stunners in a single club. And this being his first time in a FKK/sauna club and spending several days devoted to quenching his thirst for pussy, in my opinion, Germany is a better option.
Its somewhat bizzare and baffling that there can such wide array of conflicting reports on Globe.Well there you have it Mr KaveMan. Some solid feedback from some of the seniors from this forum.
All down to personal taste and associated budget.
Maybe one of the German FKK veteran's Maxime can chime in based on his most recent trip to Zurich and provide an updated comparison and details of the Zurich club girls that he went with.
Ok, did answer all questions by myself by visiting both clubs. Will write more detailed report later, where both have plusses and minusses (on looks, performance and facilities department). Howie.
Thanks to all the gentleman here!
Its obvious that you are all thoughtful, measured and deliberate in your advice, expertise and style.
Good to know mutual respect on "hot" topics is practiced here and leads to good strategic advice.
That is certainly not the case on watch, cars, and hobby boards. But then again those guys are obsessed with inanimate objects!
I will certainly visit both German FKK and Globe. I particularly like the descriptions of German FKKs with their festive atmosphere and those Buffets! And blitzkreig of pussy waves coming at you!
GuyFromParis
07-19-14, 12:08
Hi,
Just a little question. For my next trip at Oase, I will stay in Hotel Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. I would like to know if it easy to go there by foot from the Friedrichsdorf train station.
Hi,
Just a little question. For my next trip at Oase, I will stay in Hotel Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. I would like to know if it easy to go there by foot from the Friedrichsdorf train station.Yes, it is.
Hessen Bub
07-19-14, 13:27
Basically, what I think I am looking for is a a chilled out place to relax during the day. Which means nice surroundings, sauna, pool, food. In an erotic environment. So good looking girls, all shapes and sizes, not top pushy but willing to engage.
Sex is obviously on my agenda but am more interested in erotic entertainment. Lots of playing around and having fun!
Oase or Sharks. Better line-up currently than World. Mainhattan I haven't been for a while, also an alternative.
HB.
Am a regular visitor of German FKK and Saunaclubs (both in NRW and Hessen) and there is some difference, but not that much. It all depends on your experience and your taste.
In Globe about max 60 girls present at a time. Optically 50 of them are on Sharks / Oase level, so very nice (stunning for newbees). 10 of them are literally one level higher (ie taller than 1 m75, X-art models). Real pity is that 50% of both groups is a no-go (for me) because of too much Silicone and Tattoo's (a bit like Artemis Berlin lineup).
Remains 25+5 girls, of which some also have "an attitude", but for me there is enough choice in the remaining 15+2 girls. Service of the girls is very high, including pre-sales and public action if wanted (comparable with the service clubs Babylon, Panthera, Luder Lounge, etc), so you can have a great day with beautiful girls (and even some models). You will not find an unexperienced, pure and natural GFE in Globe however.
In Bumsalp the lineup is even more "normal" (optically a mix of Babylon and Psnthera girls), no exensive pre-sales or public action, service of the girls on Hessen level (so not so good as in Globe or in the before mentioned service clubs). The good news is you can meet a natural newbee if you are lucky (Nicole, 18 from Rumania is a good example!
So given the much higher price in CH, it is nice to visit it few times a year, but then only for the very few X-art models when they don't have silicones, tattoos or an attitude.
StarletVoyager
07-19-14, 22:25
Visiting frankfurt in 2 weeks as a window of opportunity arose timewise and financially. Very simply I will be focusing on oase and sharks and was wondering what the numbers of girls present is like during August as we are during the summer months. Any info greatly received. Sv.
LondonVisitor
07-19-14, 22:56
Hi fellows,
Please excuse the newbie questions here.
A few years back I visited Germany and had my first FKK experience. The deal was an "All you can eat" deal at a smallish place near Dusseldorf.
I am now travelling again to Dusseldorf and Frankfurt and was browsing through this forum trying to find the latest info.
It appears to me (and I hope to be wrong) that "all you can fuck" clubs are gone? All the clubs listed here appear to be places where you pay by the shag after the entrance fee. Am I wrong? Any recommendations for the type of place I am looking for?
Thanks!
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