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Syzgies,
I guess he means there are more blondes in these clubs...
What is your suggestion for me?My past posted girls list for Oase will give the blonde tallies. For other clubs I don't know. Oase has quite a lot of girls with redish dyed hair too. Hair colour is not a big deal for me. Its mostly dyed anyway.
There are several pretty blondes at Oase. I do more Romanian blondes than I did years ago.
PussyLiccker
10-21-14, 20:02
I'm thinking about checking out clubs in the Beyern areas. Anybody experienced there tell me which clubs are worth checking out? What is the avg. Girl count for each club, and which has the most young girls. Which has the most diversity of girls looks and types. Also, is covered BJ normal there? I've met a girl that came up to GT from a Collesium and she tried to give me a covered BJ.
What is the rates there? Half hour, additional half, CIM, Anal.
Hessen Bub
10-22-14, 03:49
Bayern.
Sunshine in Munich. Never been there.
Colosseum. Hawaii. Rates are the same as in Hessen. Between 30 and 60 girls depending on time of day and day.
Heaven. Nuremberg. About 20-40 girls.
HB.
Banana Boi
10-22-14, 04:51
My lineup rankings for my recent 10 night trip. Didn't get to a lot of different clubs this time since I spent most of my time at ACA and GT.
(1) GT - 2 of my 5 visits weren't the greatest but overall I still like the GT girls. Met the coolest girl ever here. Too bad she's an Artemis girl.
(2) ACA. Easily the youngest lineup of any club. Younger ones start after 5 pm. Inconsistent service.
(3) LR. Surprisingly good. On average may be better than ACA but not nearly as many girls.
(4) Sixsens. Really solely based on 3 stunners which unfortunately is more than the clubs lower on the list had. The rest are AAB.
(5) Magnum.
(6) Samya. Very disappointing on a Saturday night.
(7) Mondial.
(8) DV. To be fair it was a Monday.
As mentioned by others, the NRW lineup definitely isn't at its highest point now. By far the cheapest trip I have had session wise. I did meet 2 great girls at ACA and GT who I look forward to seeing again and again. I will definitely be visiting Hessen and Artemis next trip.
PussyLiccker
10-22-14, 05:19
My ranking based on last two trips, and my score board.
1. Oase. 5/8 good sessions
2. Sharks. 3/6
3. ACA. 3/4
4. World. 3/3
5. GT. 0/0
6. Magnum. 3/3
7. YY. 1/2
8. Mainhattan 1/1
9. Samya. 2/4
10. Mondial. 1/2
11. Palace 1/1
12. DV. 0/1
13. LR. 0/0
14. Panthera. 1/1
15. Rayna 0/0
16. Panelope. 0/0
PL, I liked the way you summarised as it was so easy to get an idea of your trip. I might do it myself in future. The only thing which would make itbetter would be a third score for the optik factor in each club.
BB. Thanks for info on ACA. I think I will try it on my next trip.
Banana Boi
10-22-14, 11:33
would be a third score for the optik factor in each club.
My rankings were based on pure optiks.
Dear FKK experts,
I am entirely new to the FKK scene. (I'll be visiting Artemis this fall as I live in Berlin).
I have what would be a very basic question. Do the girls allow you touch their pussies with your hands? Clit rubbing ok? Is finger insertion off limits? How about asshole touching (not fingering). All this is big part of my sexual enjoyment.
I ask only as in some of my past experiences in another country (a very different situation to FKK's) hands weren't allowed anywhere around there.
Thanks!
I'm thinking about checking out clubs in the Beyern areas. Anybody experienced there tell me which clubs are worth checking out? What is the avg. Girl count for each club, and which has the most young girls. Which has the most diversity of girls looks and types. Also, is covered BJ normal there? I've met a girl that came up to GT from a Collesium and she tried to give me a covered BJ.Visited Colosseum a long time ago. Somebody told me that in that area BJ was always covered, but it wasn't the case. At least none of the 3/4 girls I went with forced me to wear a condom for BJ and no extra was asked. The only strict rule was that girls were not allowed to come up to you, it was the customers who had to make the first move and go talk with the girls. Not a big deal (actually even better if it's your first time in the club) unless someone is shy.
Cheers.
Kimino.
Mrknowitall
10-22-14, 15:21
I'm thinking about checking out clubs in the Beyern areas. Anybody experienced there tell me which clubs are worth checking out? What is the avg. Girl count for each club, and which has the most young girls. Which has the most diversity of girls looks and types. Also, is covered BJ normal there? It is the law there in Bayern that all sex is protected, even BJs. Rumor has it that this law will be coming to the rest of Germany in the cuming years.
SwingerLover
10-22-14, 16:26
It is the law there in Bayern that all sex is protected, even BJs. Rumor has it that this law will be coming to the rest of Germany in the cuming years.That's not true. First of all, the Bavarian "Hygieneverordnung" is not a law, but a by-law (decree, edict, or however else you want to translate "Verordnung"). A violation of it's § 6 is therefore only a misdemeanor. It is also not true that "all sex is protected", because § 6 of the hygiene by-law applies to prostitution only. Movie shootings, private partys and private women in porn theatres and Swingerclubs are not affected, as long as it's not "prostitution" what they are doing. http://www.gesetze-bayern.de/jportal/portal/page/bsbayprod.psml?showdoccase=1&st=lr&doc.id=jlr-HygVBYrahmen&doc.part=X&doc.origin=bs.
And no, this "law" will not be coming to the rest of Germany. Here's what's "planned": https://researchprojectgermany.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/eckpunkte-prostituiertenschutzgesetz.pdf.
I've already written about all that in the "German AO Lounge and Chat Area!" thread of the AO Clubs forum: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3563-German-AO-Lounge-and-Chat-Area!&p=1633739&viewfull=1#post1633739.
Do the girls allow you touch their pussies with your hands? Clit rubbing ok? Is finger insertion off limits? How about asshole touching (not fingering). All this is big part of my sexual enjoyment.It all depends on the girl. The range goes from blocking your hand as soon as you even think about it to allow everything. Normally girls will allow rubbing or such, but not finger insertion. Chemistry between you and the girl is also a big factor.
Regarding anal, watch out because it does happen that girls allow finger insertion and then charge you the extra. Rare, but could happen.
If this is your thing, talk about it with the girl before you go to the room, so that everything is clear. Enjoy and report back.
Kimino.
DethManRulz
10-22-14, 19:46
It all depends on the girl. The range goes from blocking your hand as soon as you even think about it to allow everything. Normally girls will allow rubbing or such, but not finger insertion. Chemistry between you and the girl is also a big factor.
Regarding anal, watch out because it does happen that girls allow finger insertion and then charge you the extra. Rare, but could happen.
If this is your thing, talk about it with the girl before you go to the room, so that everything is clear. Enjoy and report back.
Kimino.Great, thanks Kimono. Hopefully I'll get all the info I need beforehand and won't screw up!
Cheers
PussyLiccker
10-23-14, 02:18
PL, I liked the way you summarised as it was so easy to get an idea of your trip. I might do it myself in future. The only thing which would make itbetter would be a third score for the optik factor in each club.
BB. Thanks for info on ACA. I think I will try it on my next trip.If you haven't been to ACA, you need to try to ignore the atmosphere and focus on the girls. It's the club rules. I recall my first visits there that girls don't make eye contact, and it was hard to tell which would have the best chance of good session. After several visits, girls seem to make eye contact if they are eager to do business. Maybe rules have become more lax. If you find a gem there, you will be pleasantly rewarded. I consider my self an optifik like others here although we all have our differences in taste. GT or ACA girls are more of my type. I find my urges tend to be stronger there if I find the right girls there. Just my recent visits hasn't been so great as ones in the past that kept me coming back. My ranking is weighted on optics and if there are new girls I haven't tried. Purely in terms of optiks, it's Oase, GT, and ACA based on my recent visits.
Vito Corleone
10-23-14, 10:53
My ranking based on last two trips, and my score board.
16. Panelope. 0/0You didn't like Penelope? Maybe you received the wrong info!
I'm thinking about checking out clubs in the Beyern areas. Anybody experienced there tell me which clubs are worth checking out? What is the avg. Girl count for each club, and which has the most young girls. Which has the most diversity of girls looks and types. Also, is covered BJ normal there? I've met a girl that came up to GT from a Collesium and she tried to give me a covered BJ.
What is the rates there? Half hour, additional half, CIM, Anal.The girl rates in Bayern are the same as in Hessen.
Munich clubs (sunshine, relax, ecc) never been but always heard they are scam / tourist traps.
Colosseum Augsburg, 20-30 girls, entry 65 or 70 girls lineup medium-high for optics, ok service level.
Cleopatra Augsburg ,10-15 girls, entry 50, lineup low for optics, ok service level.
Hawaii Ingolstadt, 30-50, entry 70, girls lineup medium optics, ok service level.
Nurnberg clubs (Heaven, Palmas, Syls, Oasis) entry 20-25, girls lineup low, service medium-low.
Everywhere romanians 70-90%, except maybe ColA where you can axpect more variety (50% rom?
About BBJ, I quote myself from another thread: Never had one single attempt of covered BJ in my Bayern experience, neither in ColA nor in Hawaii nor in Cleopatra nor in Nuremberg, but I keep hearing now and then about this so called anti-BBJ rule in bavarian clubs. Must be my cock tasting like caramel fudge.
Hessen Bub
10-23-14, 21:41
Never been to Sunshine in Munich but read one or two not so bad reports from trusted members on German boards. I think you could give it a try. AFAIK BBBJ is extra.
HB.
PussyLiccker
10-25-14, 00:54
Thanks for all the helpful responses. To me, it doesn't sound worth it, but I tend to check out some clubs anyway since everybody's idea of optifik is different. Paradise sounds like a worthy visit, and might as well visit Sakura while I'm there. I did like the Laufhouses around the Stuttgart area. Some nice girls there. This was long ago, so maybe it may not be so great. I may try Hamburg. Anybody have any recent updates on Hamburg clubs like Harmony and Atmos? When I visited Atmos the covered BJ was extra. One Laufhouse in HamburgI tried, I've noticed some Germans. This was long ago. Is there still German girls in Laufhouses there? One German girl I met was young and not bad of a session although covered.
Colosseum Augsburg, 20-30 girls, entry 65 or 70 girls lineup medium-high for optics, ok service level.
Everywhere romanians 70-90%, except maybe ColA where you can axpect more variety (50% rom?
My favorite GT girl of all time, Arielle, young Russian Grew up in Germany came from ColA, and former Oase German Mary was reported to have moved there.
Dear ss,
I donot know about pussies, I can only help you with assh touching. Most girls I would say 8/10 in any FKK would allow you to touch their assh and in some cases would even allow you to finger.
Its best to ask them in advance while you are asking them for a session. Don't think they will say no, they'll just ask you to be gentle with it.
Dear FKK experts,
I am entirely new to the FKK scene. (I'll be visiting Artemis this fall as I live in Berlin).
I have what would be a very basic question. Do the girls allow you touch their pussies with your hands? Clit rubbing ok? Is finger insertion off limits? How about asshole touching (not fingering). All this is big part of my sexual enjoyment.
I ask only as in some of my past experiences in another country (a very different situation to FKK's) hands weren't allowed anywhere around there.
Thanks!
Dear ss,
I donot know about pussies, I can only help you with assh touching. Most girls I would say 8/10 in any FKK would allow you to touch their assh and in some cases would even allow you to finger.
Its best to ask them in advance while you are asking them for a session. Don't think they will say no, they'll just ask you to be gentle with it.Thanks for the info!
I'm a bit surprised, as I thought it would be a little off limits (or they would try to charge me for it), but that's great if it isn't.
How do the FKK's in the Cologne area compare to the ones in Frankfurt?
My last trip I went to Oase, Palace, and Mainhatten.
What are the pros and cons? I am thinking about either returning to Frankfurt or trying something new.
Banana Boi
10-28-14, 20:14
Stick with oase and Sharks over the cologne clubs right now. The cologne clubs are not the best nrw clubs at this time. Goldentime, Acapulco, and living room are more comparable Optically.
UShobbyist
10-28-14, 20:23
How do the FKK's in the Cologne area compare to the ones in Frankfurt?
My last trip I went to Oase, Palace, and Mainhatten.
What are the pros and cons? I am thinking about either returning to Frankfurt or trying something new.I believe that FKK Samya is the biggest FKK club in Cologne. You can not compare FKK Samya with those FKK clubs of Hessen area because the girls of FKK Samya are not nude. I just don't understand why Samya is called FKK.
Samya is the most fun you'll have in an FKK though, a far nicer atmosphere in the evenings than any of the Hessen clubs (let alone a place as Acapulco). If you go multiple days it definitely isn't a waste to spend an evening in Samya. You'll always find some nice girls there as well, even if it's not in the amounts you have in Oase and Sharks.
Member #4361
10-29-14, 12:07
Gents,
I'll be lucky enough to spend two days in Frankfurt in about a month but I continue to waver on which FKK to hang my hat. I went to Mainhatten a few years ago and there was a pretty good selection of girls and relaxed atmosphere. I've got nothing against Romanian birds, but a bit more diversity in nationality would be nice.
At the moment I've booked myself at a hotel near Sharks. However, I'm starting to wonder if Oase or World might be a better choice. I know very well that all of these places are 50% or higher Romanian but I would appreciate feedback from experts on the following:
1) Which Hessen club has the most diverse nationality mix? African, Latina, Asian, etc. Nothing against the Romanian / Bulgarian hoards but variety is golden.
2) Are there any Asian girls at FKK? I tried the Thai (maybe half German) girl at Mainhatten a few years ago and she was pretty good.
3) Best selection of Latinas? Not to be overly specific but are there any Columbian chicas?
4) Largest selection of German girls? I selected Sharks because I want to take a run at this Janine people keep reporting on. Unfortunately that appears to be challenging since she is in such high demand from local mongers.
5) Finally, I plan on spending the full day and night at the club so was wondering which club has the best area to take a nap? I'll need to snooze a bit to max my ability for continuous hard pounding.
Obviously going to a FKK is a win / win but I want to be sure to maximize my two days. I'm sure most of this has been asked in one form or another before so I apologize in advance. Anyway, I appreciate the feedback.
Scorcher.
New clubs: FKK Oceans http://www.fkk-oceans.de.
Und Great Palace (in the past this was FKK Amneisa, but they did a big renovation) http://www.great-palace.com.
Both soon to be open.
Ok thanks so maybe I'll give Cologne / Dusseldorf a try. Are the girls primarily Romanian like down in Frankfurt or is it mixed? How available are extras? I know it's cheaper hence some girls might not do them at all.
Ok thanks so maybe I'll give Cologne / Dusseldorf a try. Are the girls primarily Romanian like down in Frankfurt or is it mixed? How available are extras? I know it's cheaper hence some girls might not do them at all.Also in NRW there is huge amount of Rumanian girls. Not a problem if you go to the right club where good service is offered. Only club with more alternative nationalities is Magnum and sometimes Golden Time.
Extra's are indeed cheaper (+25 for CIM / CIF, +50 for A-level) and it depends on the club if some, many or all girls offer these, but in most good clubs 80% of the girls offer CIM / CIF, always fewer (20% A-level.
PussyLiccker
10-30-14, 01:32
Ok thanks so maybe I'll give Cologne / Dusseldorf a try. Are the girls primarily Romanian like down in Frankfurt or is it mixed? How available are extras? I know it's cheaper hence some girls might not do them at all.For variety, try GT that has nice optics with tight bodies. For low priced (40 every half, 10 lower than standard rate, and only 30 entry after 9 during the week) to optics and younger aged girls, try ACA. Both best of NRW in terms of optics. My last visit to Samya, I didn't think the line-up was that great compared to visits in the past. Definitely check out Frankfurt, large number of girls with higher upsells since the rate is higher for extras and also the additional half hour, which clubs in NRW are typically 75 or 80 an hour.
Anyone knows what happened with the new club that was supposed to open in Berlin?
Anyone knows what happened with the new club that was supposed to open in Berlin?I wondered about this myself. Couldn't find much, other than it will be called Grand Plaza, and will open in 2015. I remember reading last year that it will open in 2014, so who knows.
Anyone knows what happened with the new club that was supposed to open in Berlin?https://www.facebook.com/grandpalaisclub/photos_stream
Hi,
I will be in Frankfurt soon for a long weekend. I am looking for current recommendations on the FKK clubs. I will have a car.
Initial intentions are Palace, Oase and Mainhatten. But now I have been reading about Sharks which is meant to be very good? I have 3 days and want to visit 3 clubs. Your advice will be gratefully appreciated.
Hello!
I've been planning visits to FKKs during my business trip to Munich.
It appears that during the work week, I'm pretty much left with FKK Sunshine due to distance and travel time. I am building a list of FKKs to visit during the weekend. I think I can afford 2-3 hours of travel time (prefer train). So far candidates are FKK Colosseum, Hawaii for Bavaria, and Paradise and Sakura, which is a bit further away but might be worth the trip for better selection and not having the pesky condom law (for BBBJ).
The problem is that I will not have more than 2 days free, and they are quite far apart, so looks like I can hit 2 at the most. What would you recommend? I've been hearing pretty good things about FKK Sakura lately. I'm also open to other suggestions. I am looking to meet beautiful ladies in early 20's, and I have a weak spot for blonds, although brunettes would do as well.
Thanks!
UShobbyist
11-01-14, 17:08
Hi,
I will be in Frankfurt soon for a long weekend. I am looking for current recommendations on the FKK clubs. I will have a car.
Initial intentions are Palace, Oase and Mainhatten. But now I have been reading about Sharks which is meant to be very good? I have 3 days and want to visit 3 clubs. Your advice will be gratefully appreciated.Because you drive a car, my answer is very clear and easy. You should drive to FKK Oase, FKK World, and FKK Sharks. Have fun!
Because you drive a car, my answer is very clear and easy. You should drive to FKK Oase, FKK World, and FKK Sharks. Have fun!For Sunday clearly recommend Shark!
Travelover
11-02-14, 06:54
Hi,
I have been going through the forums and it is very helpful information. Thank you guys. I am planning a visit to Germany next month and it will be my first time to FKK clubs. I was reading online and came across a website that Asian / South Asian men are not welcome in some of the clubs. Is it true? I am planning to visit Mainhattan, Oase and Palace.
Thank you again.
TL
Because you drive a car, my answer is very clear and easy. You should drive to FKK Oase, FKK World, and FKK Sharks. Have fun!Thanks for the replies. I will report back here on how I get on, and schedule Sharks for the Sunday. Although JrSimon gave no particular reason why that was best on a Sunday. I look forward to finding out for myself!
Thanks again guys.
Hi seniors,
I want to go to two clubs in two days.
Which is a better option? NRW or Hessen.
Which clubs still have 50/25/25/25 pricing?
I like foreplay in public, even entire session in public.
Please guide,
Thanks
PussyLiccker
11-02-14, 11:45
For Sunday clearly recommend Shark!Is Sunday line-up pretty much the same as the other days?
Is Sunday line-up pretty much the same as the other days?You pay only 45€ entrance if you arrive before 14:00 , for that reason there are more guys and potential clients for girls which are coming very much on Sunday at Shark 😉.
Hi seniors,
I want to go to two clubs in two days.
Which is a better option? NRW or Hessen.
Which clubs still have 50/25/25/25 pricing?
I like foreplay in public, even entire session in public.
Please guide,
ThanksPublic foreplay clubs are getting scarse, in Hessen very exceptional, but in NRW also getting rare. If you don't mind optick, Bernds Schieferhof is still a good place for this (near Bonn). Standard DFK and OWO on the couch, and more if you want. If you like younger / nicer looking girls, your best choices are Luder Lounge (near Dortmund) or Babylon (Elsdorf, near Koln). Even the "new old" Freude 39 in Bochum could be ok for you, since this re-opened, and public OWO seems to be the norm again.
Look on the forum or the web for exact prices, but most are 50 euro per half hour (and LL 80 euro per hour).
Alternatively you can go for one of the many RTCs in NRW (and one in Hessen). As much action as you want, 30 euro per session per half hour, includes (D) FK, OWO, CIM and even AO if you dare / want......... But not alays recommended to put on the light!
Good luck!
PS: the best club with top girls and public foreplay/action if Globe, bu it is in Zurich and every half hour will cost you Euro 120!
PussyLiccker
11-02-14, 18:14
If you like younger / nicer looking girls, your best choices are Luder Lounge (near Dortmund) or Babylon (Elsdorf, near Koln).What percentage of them are younger? What would be the number of girls I would expect on a typical day? Are they "day clubs" like F39? After some visits to "service clubs" I have an idea what that means. I notice commonality with the clubs that is listed for them. They have couches, girls spend some time with the client on the couch for awhile, sometimes BJ is done on the couch for a period of time. They tend to be like F39 atmosphere or the liike.
BigBuddy69
11-02-14, 18:59
In Haus Panthera you can have a lot of couch time, some public action if the girl is willing and there is a few young and very good looking girls.
Hi,
I have been going through the forums and it is very helpful information. Thank you guys. I am planning a visit to Germany next month and it will be my first time to FKK clubs. I was reading online and came across a website that Asian / South Asian men are not welcome in some of the clubs. Is it true? I am planning to visit Mainhattan, Oase and Palace.
Thank you again.
TLYou will have no problem gaining entry to these three clubs- they are very welcoming and inclusive as long as you have euros. Golden Time is well known for denying entry to to Turkish, Arabic, and South Asians but it is hit and miss, one such guy can get in and then another arriving soon after will be denied. But don't worry about Oase, Palace, or Mainhattan.
Who was in the room with Paloma blonde girl, who works at Penelope in Essen? I ask because I heard it's very good. Can you say a few words about Paloma?
What percentage of them are younger? What would be the number of girls I would expect on a typical day? Are they "day clubs" like F39? After some visits to "service clubs" I have an idea what that means. I notice commonality with the clubs that is listed for them. They have couches, girls spend some time with the client on the couch for awhile, sometimes BJ is done on the couch for a period of time. They tend to be like F39 atmosphere or the liike.I was comparing to Bernds Schieferhof, so then ALL gitls in LuLo are younger (because in BSC they tend to be old.). They have 10-20 girls on a day, and indeed LuLo is a typical day club like F39.
NOT a club to go to if you want huge wellness, large gardens, 60+ girls, only optick ficks, etc, but only good for mongers who come for (good) sex!
You will have no problem gaining entry to these three clubs- they are very welcoming and inclusive as long as you have euros. Golden Time is well known for denying entry to to Turkish, Arabic, and South Asians but it is hit and miss, one such guy can get in and then another arriving soon after will be denied. But don't worry about Oase, Palace, or Mainhattan.I would add that in large international cities like Frankfurt for your 3 targets, you will have most places very open as far as they make good money with the international fairs visitors or exhibitors. Now when you get in a small club in a town in the middle of nowhere. Then you may face a less open attitude. It will rank from no Turkish in, no Arabic in and final no black in.
Globally Germany is very open but Turkish and Arabic when not high end guys have reputation to be rude and not very clean for their body. I don't judge I only report what the girls are telling.
StarletVoyager
11-04-14, 07:16
Alot of girls told me in different clubs their pimp or control were of eastern descent. Alot of girls especially those I saw at artemis have the names of these men tatooed on their bodies also seen this at samya. The girls seem to be locked into some kind of stockholm syndrome type psychological bond with their 'daddies'. I have seen alot of these guys at oase they are easily recognisable and to be honest I have never bothered them and they have bothered me. I am aware however that even though prostitution is legal in Germany without these middlemen that 'coordinate' some but by no means all of FKK girls our clubs would not likely be full of the younger eastern european types. My reckoning here is that german girls would tend to be more independent, but again this may not prove at all true as german girls in artemis also have these tatoos. Personally I am aware of the shades of grey that occur in this game as I am not breaking a law and as the conditions for the girls are top notch better than anywhere in the world and on top of this there is a large percentage of independent girls for me the set up is fine. my theory is that a lot of the girls don't like to sometimes go with guys that are of the same ethnicity as their controls in case of potential clashes, and that this is probably the reason why some clubs refuse entry to certain groups, rather than any silly hygiene or misbehaviour issues. very very rarely have i seen males of any race being rude or bothering other punters in any club i've been to in germany. this is a result of strict in club security which is rarely seen, and the overall high standards you would expect to find in a regulated industry in one of the most developed nations in the world. just my two cents.
ActionOriented
11-04-14, 08:19
my theory is that a lot of the girls don't like to sometimes go with guys that are of the same ethnicity as their controls in case of potential clashes, and that this is probably the reason why some clubs refuse entry to certain groups, rather than any silly hygiene or misbehaviour issues. Since there aren't too many reports on entry being denied based purely on ethnicity (apart from inputs below), would any one happen to know clubs which are notorious for denying entry to Asians (and in particular Indians)? I understand that it can be arbitrary, while one punter of the same ethnicity could be allowed in, another might be denied entry. Also, the general sense I get after RTFF is that most clubs would allow entry but there could be a club or two where several girls may refuse to service punters based on a variety of reasons - mostly ethnic reasons (any clubs where such girls are on the higher side)?
If anyone has this information handy it would really help me in planning a trip excluding those particular clubs. Thanks and apologies for the newbie question, I have only past reports to fall back on for further information. (Not sure if this needs to be moved to FAQ section)
Since there aren't too many reports on entry being denied based purely on ethnicity (apart from inputs below), would any one happen to know clubs which are notorious for denying entry to Asians (and in particular Indians)? I understand that it can be arbitrary, while one punter of the same ethnicity could be allowed in, another might be denied entry. Also, the general sense I get after RTFF is that most clubs would allow entry but there could be a club or two where several girls may refuse to service punters based on a variety of reasons - mostly ethnic reasons (any clubs where such girls are on the higher side)?
If anyone has this information handy it would really help me in planning a trip excluding those particular clubs. Thanks and apologies for the newbie question, I have only past reports to fall back on for further information. (Not sure if this needs to be moved to FAQ section)Golden Time in Bruggen has a habit of denying entry to Arabic, middle eastern, south Asian and black men. This is sad as Golden Time has one of the better reputations for good looking girls and party atmosphere and good hospitality by the staff. For me, it is the "go to" club in NRW area of Germany over all others.
There was one of the Freude clubs in Bochum that had a reputation of "Germans only" meaning you had to be white but that club is gone now. Girls there are pretty good service and looks wise.
There was a smaller local club that has proudly emblazoned on its website the German flag once again implying "German only" but no one mentions that club any more to even be on the forum's radar. I cannot even remember it and I would not recommend going to it anyway unless you like fat grandmothers to fuck. They are welcome to them in that regard.
to be honest I have never bothered them and they have bothered me.How have the pimp characters in the clubs bothered you? Is it because they can be intimidating? Act like they own the club and have power over life and death?
StarletVoyager
11-04-14, 09:02
Sorry that was meant to read they have not bothered me.
Sorry that was meant to read they have not bothered me.That makes more sense now.
At sharks, I know of this german good looking girl who had her pimps name tattooed on her waist. I did not about this fact and when I asked her it she cooked up a story and I believed her so.
Came to know about this later when a fellow monger told me about it. I have also seen a lot of men (probably pimps), tattooed all over their body, heavily bulked up relaxing in the lounge area and looking at girls to see who all are more busy and whether their girls do enough hard work to get business. Would buy a bottle of scotch or JD and just enjoy the entire evening, they'll make eye contact with their girls and instruct what to do and what not to do. In fact one such pimp actually came up to me and asked me about my session with her girl and I said good, didn't know he controlled her. Saw him again on another day and realised hewas her pimp. These girls would go the extra mile to keep you happy. Found it rather strange.
Alot of girls told me in different clubs their pimp or control were of eastern descent. Alot of girls especially those I saw at artemis have the names of these men tatooed on their bodies also seen this at samya. The girls seem to be locked into some kind of stockholm syndrome type psychological bond with their 'daddies'. I have seen alot of these guys at oase they are easily recognisable and to be honest I have never bothered them and they have bothered me. I am aware however that even though prostitution is legal in Germany without these middlemen that 'coordinate' some but by no means all of FKK girls our clubs would not likely be full of the younger eastern european types. My reckoning here is that german girls would tend to be more independent, but again this may not prove at all true as german girls in artemis also have these tatoos. Personally I am aware of the shades of grey that occur in this game as I am not breaking a law and as the conditions for the girls are top notch better than anywhere in the world and on top of this there is a large percentage of independent girls for me the set up is fine. my theory is that a lot of the girls don't like to sometimes go with guys that are of the same ethnicity as their controls in case of potential clashes, and that this is probably the reason why some clubs refuse entry to certain groups, rather than any silly hygiene or misbehaviour issues. very very rarely have i seen males of any race being rude or bothering other punters in any club i've been to in germany. this is a result of strict in club security which is rarely seen, and the overall high standards you would expect to find in a regulated industry in one of the most developed nations in the world. just my two cents.
Public foreplay clubs are getting scarse, in Hessen very exceptional, but in NRW also getting rare. If you don't mind optick, Bernds Schieferhof is still a good place for this (near Bonn). Standard DFK and OWO on the couch, and more if you want. If you like younger / nicer looking girls, your best choices are Luder Lounge (near Dortmund) or Babylon (Elsdorf, near Koln). Even the "new old" Freude 39 in Bochum could be ok for you, since this re-opened, and public OWO seems to be the norm again.
Look on the forum or the web for exact prices, but most are 50 euro per half hour (and LL 80 euro per hour).
Alternatively you can go for one of the many RTCs in NRW (and one in Hessen). As much action as you want, 30 euro per session per half hour, includes (D) FK, OWO, CIM and even AO if you dare / want......... But not alays recommended to put on the light!..Hi Maxime,
Thanks for the help, Globe is too expensive, beyond reach. Bernds not for me if optics are average.
Just want to get some info.
- How would clubs like Luder Lounge, Babylon, F39, Arabella compare with GT, ACA, Magnum, LR,Dolce Vita etc of NRW region, purely in terms of good looking girls and number of girls, good couch time, and approach policy (I have read that ACA has no approach policy).
- What is the difference between RTC and FKK? I have been to FKK Oase (too much upsell) , but have read that service levels are better in NRW, although I don't want to compromise on the looks of the girls.
Thanks again.
ActionOriented
11-04-14, 17:59
Golden Time in Bruggen has a habit of denying entry to Arabic, middle eastern, south Asian and black men. Thanks for the info, I will see if there isn't any other club in the general vicinity of GT to which I can hop onto if denied, I will exclude it from the itinerary completely.
Thanks for the info, I will see if there isn't any other club in the general vicinity of GT to which I can hop onto if denied, I will exclude it from the itinerary completely.Villa Vertigo, Happy Garden, Heaven 7, Ying Yang and Living room are all fairly close to GT. If you have a car it is very easy to go to one of these if you're denied entry. I think that's what most people do when they're denied: go to Happy Garden or the Villa.
Taking a short trip later this month.
Flying into Cologne evening of 20th November and home late evening on 21st. After studying the forum for where I'm likely to get what I'm after I'm looking at an evening visit to Samya on 20th and afternoon / early evening at Babylon on 21st.
My plans for my last trip changed following recommendations from Hessen Bub so I'm open to any suggestions as his advice paid dividends!
When assessing FKK girls from an optik's standpoint, I base 90% of my decision on how attracted I am to the girl's body.
Just looking for some perspective, I found this article about a Russian make-up artist that claims he can make any girl beautiful:
http://lolery.com/this-is-a-shocking-wake-up-call-to-all-girls-out-there-trying-to-look-beautiful/
I find the "before" photos all hideous. But there are two "after" photos where I think the girl has a beautiful face: (1) first girl and (2) the girl with the reddest lipstick. Would you face guys agree? Or am I as usual the dissenting opinion? LOL.
PussyLiccker
11-09-14, 19:40
When assessing FKK girls from an optik's standpoint, I base 90% of my decision on how attracted I am to the girl's body.
Just looking for some perspective, I found this article about a Russian make-up artist that claims he can make any girl beautiful:
http://lolery.com/this-is-a-shocking-wake-up-call-to-all-girls-out-there-trying-to-look-beautiful/
I find the "before" photos all hideous. But there are two "after" photos where I think the girl has a beautiful face: (1) first girl and (2) the girl with the reddest lipstick. Would you face guys agree? Or am I as usual the dissenting opinion? LOL.Nice transformations. If makeup can hide a girl's imperfections, I'm all for it and hope to see that with some of the lesser opti's at the clubs. The opti's that I go for do not have heavy makeup, they have natural beauty. I've seen girls with heavy makeup and they can fool you into approaching them when the club is dim. I've experienced, once I got close to the ones with heavy makup, I notice that that makeup can't cover things, and notice more in detail her facial features. Luckly, I go for younger girls and generally FKK girls I don't see heavy makeup unless they are alot older.
Neurosynth
11-09-14, 22:41
Nice transformations. If makeup can hide a girl's imperfections, I'm all for it and hope to see that with some of the lesser opti's at the clubs. The opti's that I go for do not have heavy makeup, they have natural beauty. I've seen girls with heavy makeup and they can fool you into approaching them when the club is dim. I've experienced, once I got close to the ones with heavy makup, I notice that that makeup can't cover things, and notice more in detail her facial features. Luckly, I go for younger girls and generally FKK girls I don't see heavy makeup unless they are alot older.Knowing a bit about photography I will say this. He skews the demonstration by taking really bad "before" pictures.
PussyLiccker
11-10-14, 00:57
Anybody been here? Same ownership as Club Globe. Looks like it's 2 hours from Stuttgart, and I can see why this club doesn't get reported much. Any intel on the quality and quantity of the line-up? Translating the price section, it says.
1/2 hour service 60. - Euro *.
The Girls demand according to experience 60. - Euro per half hour.
And provide for uninhibited full service with intercourse.
Passionate French nature and kisses.
So, kissing is included? French nature type? Anybody know?
Translating the price section, it says.
1/2 hour service 60. - Euro *.
The Girls demand according to experience 60. - Euro per half hour.
And provide for uninhibited full service with intercourse.
Passionate French nature and kisses.
So, kissing is included? French nature type? Anybody know?There is a human translated version available.
http://www.fkk-palast.com/preise-en.php
PussyLiccker
11-10-14, 02:36
There is a human translated version available.
http://www.fkk-palast.com/preise-en.phpThanks, human translation says french kisses is included. I like how it's explicitly stated as "french kisses. " Also, there is a forum section on the website, and has same photoshopped pictures of girls as Club Globe has. Of course the pricing is much more reasonable than Club Globe which has Swiss pricing that comes along with other expenses.
Have you been there recently? What is the number of girls, ages of girls, variety of girls? Is the service level like how Club Globe is talked about? Girls doing everything in the room? Maxime always talks about how good the service level is at Globe so with same ownership, would you expect the same for Palast?
Have you been there recently? What is the number of girls, ages of girls, variety of girls? Is the service level like how Club Globe is talked about? Girls doing everything in the room? Maxime always talks about how good the service level is at Globe so with same ownership, would you expect the same for Palast?I've never been there. No idea about the SLA management for the girls but you can get some idea of the line up from this page.
http://www.fkk-palast.com/superstars-en.php
Hi all,
I saw that Samya and Haus Panthera both have a St. Martins party or event of sorts. Which should I go to say mid-afternoon to 10/11 ish? I have been wanting to see Denisa at HP and had a good time with Luciana there as well, but have not been to Samya in quite a while. Thoughts?
So is the train strike in Germany finished now? Are the trains (esp. S-bahns) running as normal (I hope)? And lastly: Is there any prospect that this strike / disruption of normal services will re-occur in the near future?
Thanks,
O.
TankTank123
11-11-14, 08:19
So is the train strike in Germany finished now? Are the trains (esp. S-bahns) running as normal (I hope)? And lastly: Is there any prospect that this strike / disruption of normal services will re-occur in the near future?
Thanks,
O.The strike ended on Saturday night; but few S5's were running that night so I still had to take a taxi back to Frankfurt from Oase; although I note that Syzygies had found a cheaper way back through the U-Bahn.
S-bahns were all functioning normally on Sunday, but the ICs and ICEs were only partially functioning in the morning. The DB staff told me that it was because many trains were wrongly positioned in various towns and cities, so it would take a day to sort out the mess.
Yesterday (Monday) everything was back to normal, and I was able to get to Bonn by train on schedule.
Hey all,
So I have an upcoming trip to Rotterdam scheduled for next week. The scene in Rotterdam seems to be abysmal compared to Germany, so I am thinking about taking a detour down to thesseldorf for a couple of days and then head back up to Holland for the productive part of my trip. (seems you can get a ticket for $40 and take less than 3 hours from Schipol) I don't want to rent a car. Using Google maps it appears that Dolce Vita and Magnum are about 20 minutes from Dusseldorf Central Station by public transportation. I was thinking of getting a hotel room near the station and make that my home base, since I'll have to take a train back up to Holland next Saturday in the morning.
What do you guys recommend. The only club I have been to in this area is Samya (which I thought was shit) and Living room which I liked (liked Maria at LR for great GFE and tightness). Since I am going to be traveling so much in such a short period I wold like to keep things simple. Which clubs do you recommend for ease to get to (via public) and for thin girls with great faces who provide GFE. Think Oceans is worth checking out or should I stick to the known FKK in the area? My favorite club ATM is Sharks, but that's too far from Rotterdam. Any clubs worth checking out that still have the 50/25 prices? Opinions and wisdom please.
Thanks guys and reports to follow. Feel free to PM as well.
And lastly: Is there any prospect that this strike / disruption of normal services will re-occur in the near future?The negotiations between "Deutsche Bahn" and trade unions are not successfully finished. Next negotiations will be on November 21. Until this date there will be no strikes.
The negotiations between "Deutsche Bahn" and trade unions are not successfully finished. Next negotiations will be on November 21. Until this date there will be no strikes.Thank you very much (and TankTank) for your answer. Let's hope they find a way to agree.
PussyLiccker
11-14-14, 02:50
Hey all,
So I have an upcoming trip to Rotterdam scheduled for next week. The scene in Rotterdam seems to be abysmal compared to Germany, so I am thinking about taking a detour down to thesseldorf for a couple of days and then head back up to Holland for the productive part of my trip. (seems you can get a ticket for $40 and take less than 3 hours from Schipol) I don't want to rent a car. Using Google maps it appears that Dolce Vita and Magnum are about 20 minutes from Dusseldorf Central Station by public transportation. I was thinking of getting a hotel room near the station and make that my home base, since I'll have to take a train back up to Holland next Saturday in the morning.
What do you guys recommend. The only club I have been to in this area is Samya (which I thought was shit) and Living room which I liked (liked Maria at LR for great GFE and tightness). Since I am going to be traveling so much in such a short period I wold like to keep things simple. Which clubs do you recommend for ease to get to (via public) and for thin girls with great faces who provide GFE. Think Oceans is worth checking out or should I stick to the known FKK in the area? My favorite club ATM is Sharks, but that's too far from Rotterdam. Any clubs worth checking out that still have the 50/25 prices? Opinions and wisdom please.
Thanks guys and reports to follow. Feel free to PM as well.Since nobody is answering, I'll take a shot. For DV or Magnum, depends on the day if you have been following the thread. I recommend Magnum on Friday and Saturday. DV, I'm not sure, my visits I didn't think the line-up was worth it. I'm sure it's worth checking other clubs than LR just to get a feel of how it's like. ACA on top of those two if you can handle the challenge of getting up there. FF has done it many times.
Although, you said you don't want to rent, getting a auto and hitting up GT should be high on the list for a first timer at the NRW if seeking optiks of variety than you find at Frankfurt. I would say it's worth experiencing to see if the line-up works for you. They have big daytime line-up, and with a car, you can head out to ACA which I usually do since it's only 40 E, but 30 E happy hour after 9 during the week. If that line-up doesn't work, other clubs in the area. Nice looking girls for only 40 E a session. It's nice having a car.
Hello,
I've never been to an FKK but will be in Germany (Frankfurt) on a business trip soon and I am hoping to experience an FKK.
Is it advisable for a newbie to go alone into an FKK?
Or is it better to book a tour or go with some other persons?
Thanks a lot.
FormulaOneFan
11-15-14, 07:14
Hello,
I've never been to an FKK but will be in Germany (Frankfurt) on a business trip soon and I am hoping to experience an FKK.
Is it advisable for a newbie to go alone into an FKK?
Or is it better to book a tour or go with some other persons?
Thanks a lot.My first trip to FKKs in Frankfurt was just a few weeks ago, and thanks to this forum it went smoothly. I wouldn't go on a 'tour', but that's me. I went solo to Palace and Mainhattan. Wanted to try Oase, Sharks, or World, but didn't have a car and didn't want to spend that much time on trains transiting as I was there for work.
I will be back in Frankfurt in early March and plan on renting a car and hitting Oase, Sharks, and World in addition to a return trip to Mainhattan probably.
Tips to a successful first FKK trip:
- at the desk, they will ask if you've been there before (as will girls later) - tell them 'no, but I've been to other clubs like this before' You want to get the lay of the club, but you want them to know that you know the rules. The key is to let the girls know that you're not an easy target and know that 50 euro is the base rate, and what it includes.
- Be proactive with the girls about talking activities and $$ before you go to the room, or at least before you engage in any real activities. You don't want to get sharked at the end and get overcharged (happened to me my very first session) and you want to make sure the girls will perform as expected when you get to the room.
- Don't be afraid to say "no" to a girl. They're used to it, and most girls will smile and move on. If they don't then they're likely not one you wanted to session with anyway.
- Don't be afraid to approach a girl and start conversation. And if the vibe isn't there, move on. This isn't dating, this is business.
I'm sure there are tons of other 'pro tips' out there, but from my recent experience.
I've never been to an FKK but will be in Germany (Frankfurt) on a business trip soon and I am hoping to experience an FKK.
Is it advisable for a newbie to go alone into an FKK?
Or is it better to book a tour or go with some other persons?Not easy to answer.
Just the girls in the Frankfurt area are "specialized" in fair tourists (make much money in a short time with bad service). To book a tour is not necessary.
My tip: ask in the Meeting Point of German Roemerforum for a scout. Although this forum covers all areas of Germany it's specialized in the clubs in Hesse.
http://www.roemerforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/12-Verabredungsecke-Postings
Although, you said you don't want to rent, getting a auto and hitting up GT should be high on the list for a first timer at the NRW if seeking optiks of variety than you find at Frankfurt. I would say it's worth experiencing to see if the line-up works for you. They have big daytime line-up, and with a car, you can head out to ACA which I usually do since it's only 40 E, but 30 E happy hour after 9 during the week. If that line-up doesn't work, other clubs in the area. Nice looking girls for only 40 E a session. It's nice having a car.Thanks Pussyliccker. Your post has made me rethink my travel plans. By renting a car and choosing less expensive hotels (which may be just as nice) which I now have access to with a car I'll end up paying about the same ammount for the trip I think. I'm renting a room 6 miles from GT. I'll make GT first hitup next Thursday afternoon. If I don't like it I can hit LR for reduced entry later in the day right?
Question for you and other Master-Mongers: Is ACA the best bang for the buck now that Oceans has drove the prices up at other clubs (theory)? I know it is a personal opinion so here is what I am into again, I am mostly into 1) GFE 2/3) Beautifull face / Thin 4) young. I'm pretty good at encouraging the GF experience from girls that are on the fence or work at clubs which have Sharks (Palace and Artemis) but would rather not have to work at it. (I'm going to post this question in the ACA forum as well as time is running out.).
Thanks for all the widsom and help. Cheers!
PussyLiccker
11-15-14, 18:22
Thanks Pussyliccker. Your post has made me rethink my travel plans. By renting a car and choosing less expensive hotels (which may be just as nice) which I now have access to with a car I'll end up paying about the same ammount for the trip I think. I'm renting a room 6 miles from GT. I'll make GT first hitup next Thursday afternoon. If I don't like it I can hit LR for reduced entry later in the day right?
Question for you and other Master-Mongers: Is ACA the best bang for the buck now that Oceans has drove the prices up at other clubs (theory)? I know it is a personal opinion so here is what I am into again, I am mostly into 1) GFE 2/3) Beautifull face / Thin 4) young. I'm pretty good at encouraging the GF experience from girls that are on the fence or work at clubs which have Sharks (Palace and Artemis) but would rather not have to work at it. (I'm going to post this question in the ACA forum as well as time is running out.).
Thanks for all the widsom and help. Cheers!I believe ACA is if you consider it's straight 40 every half, but Magnum is 80 per hour because the second half is 30. So 40 half is good in a way since it's 20% cheaper risk per every half. You only lose 40E if the session isn't the best you had, and look for another. Just the best value out there, since the line-up is typically large, and nice looking young girls with cheap entry and rate. You did good renting a car, now you have the freedom to get the fick out of the club if the line-up sucks and move on to another, and of course you have better access instead of paying transport fees and most importantly the time that add up. Keep in mind that ACA only gives you 2-3 hour window to leave and get back into the club if you choose to head out for whatever reason.
Some advice regarding GT. GT daytime line-up is better than any club I've been. Typically the better girls show up at night at most clubs, but at GT, you will see majority of the line-up during the day. So, you can show up early, and enjoy the nice quality breakfast there. They have chef in the tent that will custom make you eggs with ingrediants to make a tasty omlett. Check the tent for food throught the day, the chef makes some great quality food, and changes at times like mid-day, and evening. Food is always served.
LR later at night sounds a like a good idea with reduced entry. ACA is also reduced to 30 E after 9 on Thursday. Starting Friday it's 40 E at all times. So if you can make time, you can do a quick stop Thursday night reduced entry to see how it is. I don't go to ACA during the day, and it's a night time stop by club so, I cannot recommend it being an all day club as I don't know how the line-up shifts throughout the day, but definitely worth checking out. I like DFK, GFE, and general quality of service, and ACA is a must check out club every visit. I found lots of gems there in the past so that has me going back.
Nille Copenhagen
11-15-14, 18:32
- Be proactive with the girls about talking activities and $$ before you go to the room, or at least before you engage in any real activities. You don't want to get sharked at the end and get overcharged (happened to me my very first session) and you want to make sure the girls will perform as expected when you get to the room.I rarely discuss the activities and €€ with the girls before we go to the room. That's why we don't do anything in the room, just sleeping LOL.
Christian G
11-15-14, 19:29
Hello,
I've never been to an FKK but will be in Germany (Frankfurt) on a business trip soon and I am hoping to experience an FKK.
Is it advisable for a newbie to go alone into an FKK?
Or is it better to book a tour or go with some other persons?
Thanks a lot.FKK tour alone? Done it, in 2009. The Palace in Frankfurt, I was inside 11/12 hours, fuck 5 girls and spend alot of money for anal extra LOL.
It's no problem for newbie go alone into an FKK, just take it easy. Relax, food, drink, wellness, maybe take a book with you. And avoid the girls with bad attidudine, that ask you to go in the room after 1 minute.
Other important rule, for me, ask always in advance, what she do or not and specify to her what you want-like.
but Magnum is 80 per hour because the second half is 30.That's absolutely wrong! You have to have pay 50 € per 30 minutes without any discounts.
Furthermore during a big fair in Dusseldorf the entry fee is risen up to 80 €.
is it better to book a tour?
??? There are organized tours? Somebody strolls you around? And speak with girls for you? How does it work? How much do they cost? How do you find them? It could be interesting...
Florida Sun
11-15-14, 22:02
Is it advisable for a newbie to go alone into an FKK?
I did my first tour less than a year ago. I started my preparation by RTFF. Got advice on hotel, transportation, good girls to look for, bad girls to avoid, best time to go and best club to visit. If you are comfortable traveling alone to visit cultural sites, this should not be any different. The one thing you need to do is not to get over whelmed by abundance of choices and to pace your self and not fall for second choices just because they are good a pestering you. That is the one newbie disease that most of us caught on our first visit and eventually got immunity from it for life. Have fun and come back to tell us how it went.
Safe travels.
Hello,
I've never been to an FKK but will be in Germany (Frankfurt) on a business trip soon and I am hoping to experience an FKK.
Is it advisable for a newbie to go alone into an FKK?
Or is it better to book a tour or go with some other persons?
Thanks a lot.Don't know anything about the tours. I go to FKKs when I am in Frankfurt on business trips and I go alone. Read a little on the forum and take advise from the answers you already got. Two things to remember as a newbie. Learn how to say 'No thank you' in a respectful manner and talk to the girl about what you want to do before going to the room.
PussyLiccker
11-16-14, 04:14
That's absolutely wrong! You have to have pay 50 per 30 minutes without any discounts.
Furthermore during a big fair in Dusseldorf the entry fee is risen up to 80 .Is this as wrong as your beliefs about the GT post deletions? I have handed girls 80 for 1 hour sessions.
BigBuddy69
11-16-14, 08:01
PL is totally right, that's 50 for one half hour and 80 for one hour.
TankTank123
11-16-14, 08:04
??? There are organized tours? Somebody strolls you around? And speak with girls for you? How does it work? How much do they cost? How do you find them? It could be interesting...Yes, there is. Just google search and you will find the website of a company that has been advertising such tours for a long time.
However, I can't imagine why anyone would want to go on such tours when it is so easy to do-it-yourself. Maybe it is the convenience for having transport provided to a different FKK everyday, or maybe it gives you a group of pals to raid the FKKs together and exchange notes.
Hello,
I've never been to an FKK but will be in Germany (Frankfurt) on a business trip soon and I am hoping to experience an FKK.
Is it advisable for a newbie to go alone into an FKK?
Or is it better to book a tour or go with some other persons?
Thanks a lot.Many thanks to all those that replied back.
Very useful replies and tips.
I understand that finally going alone as a 1st timer is more than doable.
In terms of refusing up sells and saying no I don't think I have to worry a lot because I used to do so in Amsterdam RLD during my few visits a few years back.
In terms of FKK choice I want advised to avoid Palace because girls there are more "sharky" for a 1st timer.
I was told to try Mainhattan or Oase. I'll see I still have time to decide.
A last question if someone feels replying:
It seems that BJ without condoms is very common in FKKs. I prefer CBJs for obvious reasons of reducing unwanted STD risks.
Is asking for CBJ will make you look like a newbie or is it an acceptable request?
Many thanks guys.
StarletVoyager
11-16-14, 18:46
Will extract money from you with the added lack of freedom of movement is a big no no. Germany is very safe and so solo adventures are great. A tour may work for me somewhere like rio.
I rarely discuss the activities and with the girls before we go to the room. That's why we don't do anything in the room, just sleeping LOL.
To answer the original question, I always went to FKK alone. Not a problem, given you speak some English as must be the case to post on the forum. If you are very sociable type of guy you can end up getting some girl recommendations from other guys attending the club. Even after many years, I still listen to good advice.
Nille seems to be sarcastic, however I don't see the need to discuss activities with the girl before going to the room. I don't bother, generally. Maybe its a good idea for newbies. I never did when I was a newbie but that is 10 years ago. Actions speak louder than words.
My rules: Don't go with a girl as soon as she meets you. Take your time. Survey the total line up. Take time to choose. Do not let the girl choose you. Act nonchalant, with confidence, and don't admit you are a newbie. Know the prices, and act as though you have been to plenty of FKKs before. Its rare I would take any girl in the first 30 minutes unless she is my favourite.
If a girl tries to run through all the prices, I just say I know very well all the prices. If the girl wants to run through lots of rules, I prefer to run away. Good girls don't need to tell the man lots of rules in my experience. If she doesn't want to kiss, she can avoid my lips quite easily. She doesn't have to say anything. If the girl wants to charge 50 extra for kissing, I would normally think very hard before deciding its worth the risk. Usually it won't be. Plenty of girls kiss great for no extra charge. Don't blow your money with two girls at a time, or anal unless the girl is really good. Try to find very sweet girls instead of aggressive pushy girls. Even shy girls can be great, as long as they are not avoiding you. It may flatter you that girls could want you desperately, but its just a bullshit act.
Always remember, the very first girl chosen is likely to be a mistake, or at least well below what you could have got if you chose more carefully.
Don't let the girl molest you too far, or you will end up being expected to take a session. If the girl gets her mouth on your cock, you will have to pay. Its amazing to me how a guy will claim the girl was so quick, he couldn't stop her. That is just pathetic.
If you happen to be able to start with some highly recommended girls, that is probably going to start you on the right foot, as long as you are a nice guy type.
Make sure you are exceptionally clean in all areas at all times before a session or when approaching girls.
Who needs a tour? My first FKK was Tropicana in Duesseldorf. I did not know even what FKK was. I still managed to have a good time. My first year or 2 of FKK I did not know about any internet forums. We just managed with no advice, learning from experience. You can always find where the nearby clubs are with internet Google search. Go to some easy to get to, recommended clubs first.
PussyLiccker
11-16-14, 19:54
Nille seems to be sarcastic, however I don't see the need to discuss activities with the girl before going to the room. I don't bother, generally. Maybe its a good idea for newbies. I never did when I was a newbie but that is 10 years ago.
Syz, you are a regular at the club you attend. You repeat girls, and you tend to do 1 hour sessions at 50 per half clubs. Word gets around, and you have said that girls know you as the posting man. You are definitely not a new to the scene. When I was a newbie I didn't negotiate either, but I have my share of falling for unnecessary extras. I think it's important to recognize how the girl handles you most importantly and getting an idea of what a girl will agree to do is better than being surprised. Not saying, I didn't go with some girls blindly. I've had some good sessions blindly and some bad, but only do it with stunners. In terms of girls taking charge, odd encounters I've had was couple girls pulled me to the couch and DFK'd me. As for going by reports, it's not so absolute the session will be good or bad, but a good guide line. Reason why I say this is that I've had great sessions with girls that were reported to be bad. You sometimes run into this occurrence on forums. It's not so absolute.
Florida Sun
11-16-14, 21:58
My rules: Don't go with a girl as soon as she meets you. Take your time. Survey the total line up. Take time to choose. Do not let the girl choose you. Act nonchalant, with confidence, and don't admit you are a newbie. Know the prices, and act as though you have been to plenty of FKKs before. Its rare I would take any girl in the first 30 minutes unless she is my favourite.
If a girl tries to run through all the prices, I just say I know very well all the prices. If the girl wants to run through lots of rules, I prefer to run away. Good girls don't need to tell the man lots of rules in my experience. If she doesn't want to kiss, she can avoid my lips quite easily. She doesn't have to say anything. If the girl wants to charge 50 extra for kissing, I would normally think very hard before deciding its worth the risk. Usually it won't be. Plenty of girls kiss great for no extra charge. Don't blow your money with two girls at a time, or anal unless the girl is really good. Try to find very sweet girls instead of aggressive pushy girls. Even shy girls can be great, as long as they are not avoiding you. It may flatter you that girls could want you desperately, but its just a bullshit act.
Always remember, the very first girl chosen is likely to be a mistake, or at least well below what you could have got if you chose more carefully.
Don't let the girl molest you too far, or you will end up being expected to take a session. If the girl gets her mouth on your cock, you will have to pay. Its amazing to me how a guy will claim the girl was so quick, he couldn't stop her. That is just pathetic.
If you happen to be able to start with some highly recommended girls, that is probably going to start you on the right foot, as long as you are a nice guy type.
Make sure you are exceptionally clean in all areas at all times before a session or when approaching girls.
Who needs a tour? My first FKK was Tropicana in Duesseldorf. I did not know even what FKK was. I still managed to have a good time. My first year or 2 of FKK I did not know about any internet forums. We just managed with no advice, learning from experience. You can always find where the nearby clubs are with internet Google search. Go to some easy to get to, recommended clubs first.Every rule listed is proven successful and most guys will agree that it will work for most situations. I recommend this post for reports of distinction as it cover most scenarios in a straightforward and easy way.
Great job and valid advice.
Neurosynth
11-17-14, 00:04
I have a rule to turn away cold any girl who quickly approaches me in the first 15-20 minutes. I do this no matter how attractive she is. I suppose I give away a few winners, but by and large the ones desperate to get you first are the ones who don't have regulars. And there's a reason for that.
I've also found that the best way to turn away an aggressive seller is to tell her you just had a session with someone else. They will typically say "OK, maybe later" and go away. I suspect they think it will be too much effort, and take too long, to revive and satisfy a recently spent guy.
I have a rule to turn away cold any girl who quickly approaches me in the first 15-20 minutes. I do this no matter how attractive she is. I suppose I give away a few winners, but by and large the ones desperate to get you first are the ones who don't have regulars. And there's a reason for that.
I would say that for 95% of the good girls I ever had, I had to approach the girl. In rare cases the girl approached me first, I wasn't ready for her, and I later decided to approach her again. Great girls that came straight to me when I first arrived? Its possible but I can't remember any. Great girls should know that we don't like aggressive girls, and the aggressive moves will focus on newbies. Wasn't long since I was a "newbie" at MH and had girls coming at me from all angles in a cramped space. This did not appeal to me. I also prefer to ignore girls that sneak up from behind, like so its more difficult to dodge them, when not interested. If a girl tries to sit on me without any signs of interest from me whatsoever, I regard that as pushy behaviour also. If we already know each other well, that is different.
Many girls try to catch my eye, but I discourage them easily (the non aggressive ones) by not really being willing to pay any attention to them. Once the girl sees you eyeing her, they will feel that is an invitation.
I would say that for 95% of the good girls I ever had, I had to approach the girl. In rare cases the girl approached me first, I wasn't ready for her, and I later decided to approach her again. Great girls that came straight to me when I first arrived? Its possible but I can't remember any. Great girls should know that we don't like aggressive girls, and the aggressive moves will focus on newbies. Wasn't long since I was a "newbie" at MH and had girls coming at me from all angles in a cramped space. This did not appeal to me. I also prefer to ignore girls that sneak up from behind, like so its more difficult to dodge them, when not interested. If a girl tries to sit on me without any signs of interest from me whatsoever, I regard that as pushy behaviour also. If we already know each other well, that is different.
Many girls try to catch my eye, but I discourage them easily (the non aggressive ones) by not really being willing to pay any attention to them. Once the girl sees you eyeing her, they will feel that is an invitation.Hello Syzygies.
The one thing I don't like about Mainhatten is the location of the change rooms. The girls have to pass through that area in order to reach the other side of the building, containing the kino and dining area. When a person is changing, they should not be ambushing the clients. This not professional and should be off limits. I always ignore any and all advances while in this area. The seating and bar area is not as small as you might think, but it is well lit. The girls do approach the men on the sofas and around the bar area. You are fair game in that area. Last week at Oase, I was just sitting down on one of the couches and relaxing, when a girl just flopped herself onto my lap. I gave her a quick lecture on manners and shooed her away. One time in Sharks, I was sleeping on one of the upstairs sofa beds when a girl just plopped her ass down by my pillow and asked for a session. These advances are far worse than what you would ever experience at MH. I usually just give the girls a couple of minutes and chat with them, but I usually just tell them that I will find them when I am ready. The girls are OK with that. MH is generally more relaxing than some of the other places I have visited. You can usually find a hiding place in the kino and the beds near the sauna area. Overall, I find the girls give nice GF service without withholding services or upselling. Since you are a 1 hour session guy, the girls will give you good service.
Best of luck!
FiddyCent.
Hello Syzygies.
The one thing I don't like about Mainhatten is the location of the change rooms. The girls have to pass through that area in order to reach the other side of the building, containing the kino and dining area. When a person is changing, they should not be ambushing the clients. This not professional and should be off limits. I always ignore any and all advances while in this area. The seating and bar area is not as small as you might think, but it is well lit. The girls do approach the men on the sofas and around the bar area. You are fair game in that area. Last week at Oase, I was just sitting down on one of the couches and relaxing, when a girl just flopped herself onto my lap. I gave her a quick lecture on manners and shooed her away. One time in Sharks, I was sleeping on one of the upstairs sofa beds when a girl just plopped her ass down by my pillow and asked for a session. These advances are far worse than what you would ever experience at MH. I usually just give the girls a couple of minutes and chat with them, but I usually just tell them that I will find them when I am ready. The girls are OK with that. MH is generally more relaxing than some of the other places I have visited. You can usually find a hiding place in the kino and the beds near the sauna area. Overall, I find the girls give nice GF service without withholding services or upselling. Since you are a 1 hour session guy, the girls will give you good service.
Best of luck!
FiddyCent.I've only been to MH once. So maybe that is just far too little experience to chip in here. But as a regular reader of the Oase and Sharks forums, I think I have a good idea of the type of girl Syzygies likes (discussion on Oase yesterday about it). I would be amazed if you find the pretty, A cup stunner you are looking for in MH. I stayed there 3 hours before getting a cab to Palace (which despite v negative reports I much preferred). If you are a smoker MH is good as there is a dedicated smoking room behind glass on the left from the reception. The rooms are also very impressive, large and good temperature. The food was good. But I'm afraid the LU was just awful and I really struggled in 3 hours to find a girl I wanted to session with. When I did, despite making it clear that if the service was good I'd want an hour (I'm with you on preferences Syzygies) the service (think is was Raisa or something similar. Said she was half Turkish and looked it) was really poor and I departed after less than 30 minutes. Then spent an hour hoping some other girls would appear to improve the selection. No joy. Of the 5 FKK clubs I've tried in Germany - 4 in Frankfurt and Artemis in Berlin. MH was by far the worst on line up.
I'm off to make it number 6 in a few weeks in Dusseldorf. So. I've heard good things about Living Room / Kaarst though the forum there is very quiet. Other local clubs in Dusseldorf appear to be Dolce Vita (recent posts say LU is very weak with lots of heavy girls) or Acapulco. It's website makes it look very small indeed. My preferences are for very facially pretty girls (similar to Elizabeth (Hun) at Oase who are slim with large natural boobs though I'm not against sillies if they don't look silly! Is LR the obvious choice (for a Wednesday) or has anyone got a better suggestion? All help most appreciated. Finally. Does anyone know Dessous day at LR? Thanks.
Banana Boi
11-17-14, 03:35
I'm off to make it number 6 in a few weeks in Dusseldorf. So. I've heard good things about Living Room / Kaarst though the forum there is very quiet. Other local clubs in Dusseldorf appear to be Dolce Vita (recent posts say LU is very weak with lots of heavy girls) or Acapulco. It's website makes it look very small indeed. My preferences are for very facially pretty girls (similar to Elizabeth (Hun) at Oase who are slim with large natural boobs though I'm not against sillies if they don't look silly! Is LR the obvious choice (for a Wednesday) or has anyone got a better suggestion? All help most appreciated. Finally. Does anyone know Dessous day at LR? Thanks.It's NRW so it's Dessous at LR and ACA every day and DV every day except Mondays and Tuesdays til 8 pm.
ACA is small? ACA is as large as both DV and LR combined. ACA is your best bet for a Wednesday night after 7 pm. If you are taking public transit you may want to opt for LR for convenience. DV will have fewer and not as pretty girls as either ACA or LR.
If you're there all day Wednesday and have a car then a GT / LR combo for 95 euro is your best bet.
Is it dessous in all the NRW clubs except DV (during the day on Mon and Tue)? Is GT DESSOUS all the time? Why is NRW dessous heavy?
It's NRW so it's Dessous at LR and ACA every day and DV every day except Mondays and Tuesdays til 8 pm.
ACA is small? ACA is as large as both DV and LR combined. ACA is your best bet for a Wednesday night after 7 pm. If you are taking public transit you may want to opt for LR for convenience. DV will have fewer and not as pretty girls as either ACA or LR.
If you're there all day Wednesday and have a car then a GT / LR combo for 95 euro is your best bet.
Vito Corleone
11-17-14, 07:51
Is it dessous in all the NRW clubs except DV (during the day on Mon and Tue)? Is GT DESSOUS all the time? Why is NRW dessous heavy?Yes, all the big clubs in the NRW is lingerie day. Only the small rtc clubs are all nude.
Hessen Bub
11-17-14, 09:46
My rules: Don't go with a girl as soon as she meets you. Take your time. Survey the total line up. Take time to choose. Do not let the girl choose you. Act nonchalant, with confidence, and don't admit you are a newbie. Know the prices, and act as though you have been to plenty of FKKs before. Its rare I would take any girl in the first 30 minutes unless she is my favourite.Depends if you are a first timer or not. Having a little experience with FKKs I often take a girl to the room after seeing her the first time and talking to her for 2 or 3 minutes. If I want her, I want her. I don't care if there is a "risk" of a bad session. The "risk" is 50 EUR, nothing more. You don't have to marry her to fuck her, you don't have to get divorced to get rid of her.
HB.
It's NRW so it's Dessous at LR and ACA every day and DV every day except Mondays and Tuesdays til 8 pm.
ACA is small? ACA is as large as both DV and LR combined. ACA is your best bet for a Wednesday night after 7 pm. If you are taking public transit you may want to opt for LR for convenience. DV will have fewer and not as pretty girls as either ACA or LR.
If you're there all day Wednesday and have a car then a GT / LR combo for 95 euro is your best bet.Thanks for the information. Very useful. I didn't realise dessous was so popular in NRW. I only arrive in Dusseldorf at 18.30 so by the time I have checked in the hotel and get going it will be 7. 30 pm before I start travelling to the FKK club by public transport or taxi. I know taxis are expensive but given the likely spend in the club and how seldom I get to visit these clubs I don't deprive myself of the best option by refusing a taxi.
I have no knowledge of ACA other than looking at the website where it just looks a bit small other than the pool. Several guys I met in the FRA clubs say LR has a great line up. I tend to prefer the bigger clubs so if ACA is a lot bigger than LR or DV and has a good line up I'd be likely to go for that. How much would a taxi be? Website says its 20 km from Dusseldorf so shouldn't be too much? I was planning on getting a taxi to LR before reading your suggestion. You suggested ACA is best for a Wednesday though mentioned LR better for public transport. If you think the line up is likely to be much better at ACA I'll go there instead. Some info on the general numbers there compared to LR would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Banana Boi
11-17-14, 12:47
ACA is 40 km from downtown Dusseldorf and about the same from the airport if you take the highway. It will not be cheap to get there by taxi. I'm guessing 50-60 euro each way. Much cheaper to rent a car for the day. PM FinnishFucker for public transit to ACA. I think he says it takes an hour.
On a weekday I would choose ACA for girls over LR for selection. On a weekend night it would be more even. At either time ACA will have more girls. LR is really small. A room, an eating tent, and a hallway / bar area. Read the ACA thread for more details. Definitely not a party club being it's a no-ask club so it's basically girls sitting around and guys standing. LR is 60 entry, ACA is 40 entry (30 after 9 pm) so that may offset some of your taxi price. ACA is 40 for half hour, LR is 50. Either way you will have fun.
Not recommending over the 2 aforementioned clubs but isn't the new Oceans a large club that may be what you're looking for.
Depends if you are a first timer or not. Having a little experience with FKKs I often take a girl to the room after seeing her the first time and talking to her for 2 or 3 minutes. If I want her, I want her. I don't care if there is a "risk" of a bad session. The "risk" is 50 EUR, nothing more.
Agree 100%.
Depends if you are a first timer or not. Having a little experience with FKKs I often take a girl to the room after seeing her the first time and talking to her for 2 or 3 minutes. If I want her, I want her. I don't care if there is a "risk" of a bad session. The "risk" is 50 EUR, nothing more. You don't have to marry her to fuck her, you don't have to get divorced to get rid of her.
HB.I agree + You don't even have to cum with / on / in her! I save myself for better choices sometimes. Sometimes the girls seem upset. I tell them that the experience is more important than the actual finish. If you end up sessioning with 3-4+ girls everyday for a few days maybe it's better that you don't finish with all of them saving your energy for more fun, if you contain yourself sometimes. 50 eur (max) to bang a hottie. Really nothing to loose if you think about it.
TankTank123
11-17-14, 16:10
I give up once the girl does not give me proper kissing, as I know that I would not be able to finish when there is no GFE feeling. Better to save my energy for others and just write off the 50 Euros. I had 2 such encounters last week where I initiated early termination because the girls gave me perfunctory or no kissing: Marina, a short cute dancer in World; and Nicole, a tall newly-arrived blonde in Oase, even though they might well have given good service subsequently.
In terms of FKK choice I want advised to avoid Palace because girls there are more "sharky" for a 1st timer
I was told to try Mainhattan or Oase. I'll see I still have time to decide.
A last question if someone feels replying:
It seems that BJ without condoms is very common in FKKs. I prefer CBJs for obvious reasons of reducing unwanted STD risks.
Is asking for CBJ will make you look like a newbie or is it an acceptable request?
Many thanks guys.If you are a newbee, and want to avoid sharks, the best place (around Frankfurt) is. Sharks (no pun intended). Oase has many upsellrs (but not as bad as Palace).
Indeed is BBBJ the norm. Asking for CBJ is both acceptable AND gives you away as newbee.
You can read many about the (very low) chances as a man to receive STD from BBBJ, but ok, it is your call. Enjoy!
UShobbyist
11-17-14, 22:34
Many thanks to all those that replied back.
Very useful replies and tips.
I understand that finally going alone as a 1st timer is more than doable.
In terms of refusing up sells and saying no I don't think I have to worry a lot because I used to do so in Amsterdam RLD during my few visits a few years back.
In terms of FKK choice I want advised to avoid Palace because girls there are more "sharky" for a 1st timer.
I was told to try Mainhattan or Oase. I'll see I still have time to decide.
A last question if someone feels replying:
It seems that BJ without condoms is very common in FKKs. I prefer CBJs for obvious reasons of reducing unwanted STD risks.
Is asking for CBJ will make you look like a newbie or is it an acceptable request?
Many thanks guys.IMHO, If you only want CBJ, you probably should visit RLD of Frankfurt. You don't need to pay any entrance fee and you can get CBJ for only 25 euros to 30 euros from pretty girls. There are quite a few pretty girls in E44 and E47.
Many thanks to all those that replied back.
Very useful replies and tips.
I understand that finally going alone as a 1st timer is more than doable.
In terms of refusing up sells and saying no I don't think I have to worry a lot because I used to do so in Amsterdam RLD during my few visits a few years back.
In terms of FKK choice I want advised to avoid Palace because girls there are more "sharky" for a 1st timer.
I was told to try Mainhattan or Oase. I'll see I still have time to decide.
A last question if someone feels replying:
It seems that BJ without condoms is very common in FKKs. I prefer CBJs for obvious reasons of reducing unwanted STD risks.
Is asking for CBJ will make you look like a newbie or is it an acceptable request?
Many thanks guys.See my newbie guide. Written after my first trip to a FKK club earlier this year. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1591295&viewfull=1#post1591295 Hopefully will be of use. Don't worry about asking for CBJ. I do it all the time and I'm no longer a newbie (though still only done 5 FKK clubs but about to make that 8! It's true that the girl will think you are a newbie. But having never seen you in the club she might think that anyway and so long as you take no nonsense on upselling it matters not. As for where to go. Trust me. Read my comparisons of the 4 big clubs in FRA. Sharks and Oase are best. Mainhattan and Palace were not really for me but Palace is better of the two IMHO. You won't believe the choice of girls at Oase. I like Sharks better as a club but if its your first time I suggest you go to Oase as the line up is so impressive. Don't worry about getting there. Both Sharks and Oase are very easy via direct train from FRA hbf and then a cabride (both are longer than you might think and a very old post was of great value to me if you go to Oase. Don't get off at Friedrichsdorf (nearest station) as there are seldom cabs there and you need to call the club to send one. Get off at Bad Homburg (stop before) where there are always cabs and the difference in price to get there is only about €5 - worth paying to avoid the hassle!
Have a great time. Remember to take note of the girls names you session with. The best return on the advice the seniors in here have given you (I don't include myself in that group) is to feedback on experiences in the rooms with particular girls. Which enables choices to be made by others in future. Enjoy! I'm jealous. Because despite having mongered for many many years I shall never forget my first time in a proper FKK club surrounded by nearly 100 naked women. It is fantastic!
Banana Boi
11-19-14, 01:17
Payforit, a little advise from my LR visit last month. The young ones go to bed before 1 am on a Saturday night so may be even earlier on a weeknight. Translation - if you see a nice young one don't wait!
Payforit, a little advise from my LR visit last month. The young ones go to bed before 1 am on a Saturday night so may be even earlier on a weeknight. Translation - if you see a nice young one don't wait!Ok thanks. Shame as I quite like to take the evening slow and build up to a good finish. But point taken. So I'll be sure to get in there early!
See my newbie guide. Written after my first trip to a FKK club earlier this year. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1591295&viewfull=1#post1591295 Hopefully will be of use. Don't worry about asking for CBJ. I do it all the time and I'm no longer a newbie (though still only done 5 FKK clubs but about to make that 8! It's true that the girl will think you are a newbie. But having never seen you in the club she might think that anyway and so long as you take no nonsense on upselling it matters not. As for where to go. Trust me. Read my comparisons of the 4 big clubs in FRA. Sharks and Oase are best. Mainhattan and Palace were not really for me but Palace is better of the two IMHO. You won't believe the choice of girls at Oase. I like Sharks better as a club but if its your first time I suggest you go to Oase as the line up is so impressive. Don't worry about getting there. Both Sharks and Oase are very easy via direct train from FRA hbf and then a cabride (both are longer than you might think and a very old post was of great value to me if you go to Oase. Don't get off at Friedrichsdorf (nearest station) as there are seldom cabs there and you need to call the club to send one. Get off at Bad Homburg (stop before) where there are always cabs and the difference in price to get there is only about 5 - worth paying to avoid the hassle!
Have a great time. Remember to take note of the girls names you session with. The best return on the advice the seniors in here have given you (I don't include myself in that group) is to feedback on experiences in the rooms with particular girls. Which enables choices to be made by others in future. Enjoy! I'm jealous. Because despite having mongered for many many years I shall never forget my first time in a proper FKK club surrounded by nearly 100 naked women. It is fantastic!I will reading all the guides and tips before deciding on the best FKK and then visiting it.
I am note sure when exactly I will be there (depends on my business trip schedule) but I will report back for sure.
Cheers
StarletVoyager
11-24-14, 23:52
Trust me oase has to be your first club adventure, you will never forget it even if getting there takes a touch longer.
Just a note for those with all the questions around trains, schedules and cost of taking a taxi everywhere.
Unless it is some weird situation, I will always rent a car going forward. Germany has some of the best roads and directions and signage are pretty straight forward and compared to driving in other countries it is a breeze.
- Total cost for a rental: 44 E for 4 days.
- If I took a taxi everywhere. It would have easily cost me 200 E.
- If I took the train everywhere, sure it may be cheaper but I would have lost loads of precious time just getting around. Not worth the opportunity cost. If you weigh the time spent on trains and the short time you are there in Germany that burns up literally "hours" on the train it is not worth it.
Travelover
11-26-14, 01:53
- Total cost for a rental: 44 E for 4 days.Wow that's pretty cheap, I looked up the car rates just now and see around 30 E / day. Which car rental are you talking about?
Trans Atlantic
11-26-14, 04:28
Many thanks to all those that replied back.
Very useful replies and tips.
I understand that finally going alone as a 1st timer is more than doable.
In terms of refusing up sells and saying no I don't think I have to worry a lot because I used to do so in Amsterdam RLD during my few visits a few years back.
In terms of FKK choice I want advised to avoid Palace because girls there are more "sharky" for a 1st timer.
I was told to try Mainhattan or Oase. I'll see I still have time to decide.
A last question if someone feels replying:
It seems that BJ without condoms is very common in FKKs. I prefer CBJs for obvious reasons of reducing unwanted STD risks.
Is asking for CBJ will make you look like a newbie or is it an acceptable request?
Many thanks guys.I'll have to buck the trend. CBJ doesn't equate to newbie. How you act and how confident you appear will give you away as a newbie.
Wow that's pretty cheap, I looked up the car rates just now and see around 30 E / day. Which car rental are you talking about?50 for 3/4 days usually involves picking up Thursday afternoon or later and keeping it at least until Sunday (weekend rate).
I've now been to an FKK 5 times, just now reported on visits to Artemis and Manhattan. Reading reports here makes a newbie fearful of sharks and aggressive marketing. I've found it much more mellow than feared, really enjoyable.
First off, the possibility of having this kind of experience in a legal, safe and clean setting is so amazing. I never went to a working girl on the streets, or anywhere where it was illegal, not worth the risk. The FKKs are great. Also the blow job without condom is fantastic. Being in the space with so many naked beautiful women, each wanting to suck and fuck you, really wanting you to cum in their mouth, wow, its a fantasy come true.
As for the sharks, and all the worries about aggressive women, or not wanting to be approached, I don't know what the fuss is about. I love sitting on a couch watching the action. When the girls walk by, if its someone I obviously don't like, I simply break eye contact and she usually gets the message and walks by. If I find her attractive, I let her come over, sit on my lap, caress me, letting me touch her thigh or back, talking flirting. If I'm not convinced or ready, I give a complement, "you're really sweet and pretty, but I'm not ready. You're on my list as a big maybe for later" I've never had a problem after saying this, the girls smile, give me a kiss on the cheek, say, "OK see you later". Having all this flirting, having beautiful naked women get close and say how they really want to suck my cock, this is not shakiness, it is the best of all possible worlds.
As I said on my post in Manhattan thread, a recent threesome, for an hour, even a double CIM, was well worth it, the best sex of my life. Well worth 300 Euro.
If a woman treats me well, doesn't watch the clock, makes an effort to please me, I give a 10 E tip. Its for extra service and I think it should be rewarded and encouraged. I know a lot of the posters here have a different idea. I don't see why we can't be respectful of these girls who offer us a service which we enjoy. Why should we treat a working girl different that a waiter? Can't we be mongers and still treat the girls with respect? I have been surprised how sweet and nice many of them are. Not to take home to mother maybe, but often as sweet as can be given the circumstances.
In closing, my advice to newbies is to take it slow, don't by afraid to talk to many girls, but don't be pressured into one if you're not ready. It probably doesn't matter which FKK you choose. Any one is great compared to their absence elsewhere.
Detailed Zurich review.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=1650994#post1650994.
Apologies to the admins if this is the wrong place for this post- first timer here.
My friend and I will be cutting across Germany in a few weeks and would like to visit a FKK. We've narrowed it down to three cities: Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, or Cologne. Neither of us have done this before so we're ot too picky, just looking to relax and enjoy some companionship in a clean, hospitable environment. We'll be traveling via train so the preference is to stay near the central station and visit a club that is easily (and quickly) accessible by public transit. We will be arriving on a Monday around noon, checking in to hotel, heading to the club for the day, then leaving the next day so the emphasis here is on a logistically simple outing. Based on my research (thanks to all who contribute, the amount of info on this site is amazing) the current favorite is to visit Frankfurt and go to Mainhattan. Any advice or comments are eagerly awaited.
Trans Atlantic
12-02-14, 06:03
Detailed Zurich review.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?806-Zurich&p=1650994#post1650994.Thanks for the review and confirming the difference between Globe and German FKKs is the monger is paying for the higher cost of living.
Yes, I would recommend going to Frankfurt and visiting Mainhattan. Great facilities, pretty girls, cheaper beer (15 EUR unlimited), and convenient location. Another option if you're willing to travel outside the main city by public transport and a short taxi ride, is to visit Oase. It usually has a larger lineup and more expansive grounds, but it takes 30-45 minutes to get there from the main train station.
If convenience is a big factor, you'll be fine with Mainhattan.
Apologies to the admins if this is the wrong place for this post- first timer here.
My friend and I will be cutting across Germany in a few weeks and would like to visit a FKK. We've narrowed it down to three cities: Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, or Cologne. Neither of us have done this before so we're ot too picky, just looking to relax and enjoy some companionship in a clean, hospitable environment. We'll be traveling via train so the preference is to stay near the central station and visit a club that is easily (and quickly) accessible by public transit. We will be arriving on a Monday around noon, checking in to hotel, heading to the club for the day, then leaving the next day so the emphasis here is on a logistically simple outing. Based on my research (thanks to all who contribute, the amount of info on this site is amazing) the current favorite is to visit Frankfurt and go to Mainhattan. Any advice or comments are eagerly awaited.
Thanks for the review and confirming the difference between Globe and German FKKs is the monger is paying for the higher cost of living.Curious interpretation.
My sense is there are few 10-11 level supermodel quality gals in German FKKs and 2 at Aphrodisia in Zurich.
You get what you pay for. The value of female beauty increases exponentially from 8-11 level.
Apologies to the admins if this is the wrong place for this post- first timer here.
My friend and I will be cutting across Germany in a few weeks and would like to visit a FKK. We've narrowed it down to three cities: Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, or Cologne. Neither of us have done this before so we're ot too picky, just looking to relax and enjoy some companionship in a clean, hospitable environment. We'll be traveling via train so the preference is to stay near the central station and visit a club that is easily (and quickly) accessible by public transit. We will be arriving on a Monday around noon, checking in to hotel, heading to the club for the day, then leaving the next day so the emphasis here is on a logistically simple outing. Based on my research (thanks to all who contribute, the amount of info on this site is amazing) the current favorite is to visit Frankfurt and go to Mainhattan. Any advice or comments are eagerly awaited.The advice you've had here about accessibility of Mainhattan is true. It is probably the closest club to the centre of Frankfurt. But in my view only it is far from the best and if you have only one day, you want it to be special. I would not go to Dusseldorf or Cologne (for girls / clubs) as you will be far more impressed with the line up of girls in frankfurt clubs. I'd go to Oase or Sharks if I were you. Stay near to Frankfurt Main Station HBF and get the S bahn line to Bad Homburg if going to Oase (fredrichsdorf is closer but there are seldom taxis outside and you'll need one from either station). €20 in cab from Bad Homburg to Oase. Between two of you only €10 each and well worth it, or go to Sharks. Train from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt and again a taxi about €15. Both clubs have great facilities and very good selections of girls. I think you'd be disappointed with Dusseldorf (Living room is small. Was there last week) and Acapulco is a long way out for public transport. New club Oceans there is close to the centre but is not getting good reviews and is very expensive. You've not mentioned Berlin. Artemis is a very big club with great facilities and a great selection of ladies and is very easy to get to using public transport. And if I only had one day at an FKK club in Germany it would be my no. 1 choice. Enjoy.
Stay near to Frankfurt Main Station HBF and get the S bahn line to Bad Homburg if going to Oase Oase seems to be the crowd favorite but I had ruled it out due to logistics. Taking a closer look, seems doable even for a first time S-Bahner. Two questions-.
1) Bad Homburg appears to have a number of stops, which one should we get off at?
2) Getting home- assuming we leave early enough to catch the train, would we take a cab to Fredrichsdorf station (s) for the return trip? If after hours, what's the damage if we had to cab it all the way back to FKT HBF?
Thanks again.
UltraHappy
12-05-14, 16:03
Oase seems to be the crowd favorite but I had ruled it out due to logistics. Taking a closer look, seems doable even for a first time S-Bahner. Two questions-.
1) Bad Homburg appears to have a number of stops, which one should we get off at?
2) Getting home- assuming we leave early enough to catch the train, would we take a cab to Fredrichsdorf station (s) for the return trip? If after hours, what's the damage if we had to cab it all the way back to FKT HBF?
Thanks again.Typically good idea to get off at the Bad Homburg stop. The Friedrichsdorf stop is a tiny bit closer to Oase but you may not find a taxi there. Therefore, better idea to play it safe and get off at the Bad Homburg stop (unless you have a Bad Homburg taxi phone number already and don't mind waiting).
Yes, on the return trip, have the taxi take you to the Friedrichsdorf stop. It's closer to Oase, so you will save a couple of Euros in taxi fare.
For taxi fare back to the city, at night rates, you should not pay any more than 50-55 Euros. If you use the search function and search for "taxi" and my name, you will find several posts that give a taxi service phone number that offers a 35 Euro fixed rate when traveling from Bad Homburg to Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof (but only if you tell the cab driver that you are electing this special fare when you get in the cab before he turns the taxi meter on).
Make sure you know the S5 schedule well. When you try to get the taxi driver to take you to the station at night, the taxi driver will try to convince you that (1) you missed the last train, (2) the station is closed for repairs, (3) the trains are not running, etc. I just always tell the taxi driver, yes, yes, I know that already. I don't take train. I meet friend at station.
Member #4581
12-05-14, 23:40
I don't know what is the latest status of uber in Germany and Frankfurt in particular, and I never used it there, but I wonder if uberx is cheaper than a regular taxi, especially at night, going from Oase to Frankfurt Hbf. Normally I stay near the club, to avoid late night taxis, but if reasonably priced taxis or uberx can work, I might stay near the city center, as it is rather boring to be holed up in a hotel in Freidrichsdorf with nothing to do, other than clubbing.
Florida Sun
12-11-14, 10:53
Here is a question for regular and infrequent FKK visitors. Since all of us are annoyed by girls pushiness, how do you want to be approached? I know club layout, and particular situations such as time of day, busyness, and guy / girl mix and line up quality affect our mood. Nonetheless, do you have a preference?
I like seductive non sexual approach with light touching. I would love for a girl With whom I exchanged eye contact to come over and kiss on the cheek which I find very GFE and a great gauge of chemistry as you experience touch smell and vibe. All this can be done with or without words.
Now for first spoken words, I will take anything other than, where are you from, is this your first time, how long are you staying in Germany, and for those with audacity. You want. Go. Room.
I would think something cleaver like I want to go from your fantasy to your reality, are you comfortable here, can I show you around the club. Any generic social talk about the club them-self or you and if they are walking as a pair each other. All of this can be seductive but non sexual as the next can be the sexual move if you are still around.
Any thoughts?
Faceless78
12-11-14, 15:41
Here is a question for regular and infrequent FKK visitors. Since all of us are annoyed by girls pushiness, how do you want to be approached? I know club layout, and particular situations such as time of day, busyness, and guy / girl mix and line up quality affect our mood. Nonetheless, do you have a preference?
I like seductive non sexual approach with light touching. I would love for a girl With whom I exchanged eye contact to come over and kiss on the cheek which I find very GFE and a great gauge of chemistry as you experience touch smell and vibe. All this can be done with or without words.
Now for first spoken words, I will take anything other than, where are you from, is this your first time, how long are you staying in Germany, and for those with audacity. You want. Go. Room.
I would think something cleaver like I want to go from your fantasy to your reality, are you comfortable here, can I show you around the club. Any generic social talk about the club them-self or you and if they are walking as a pair each other. All of this can be seductive but non sexual as the next can be the sexual move if you are still around.
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Any thoughts?I can't recall a special way to be approached, I guess every girl has her own technique. But overall, I just don't like those who push too hard, and keep asking "why when what" even if I refuse her politely.
But most importantly, for me, is not the way she approaches me, but whether she's my type. If I like this girl, I don't really care she comes to me LOL.
Strikesfun
12-11-14, 16:05
Hello All, Few post back there was a brief discussion that car rental in Germany is about 20-30 euros per day. My search agrees with this for the car rental daily rate, however, how does one handle the insurance coverage. The insurance coverage if not waived was twice the rate of the car rental? Total coverage was estimated for two days 138 euros. Insurance for collision and covering the deductible. I check with credit card company and it was noted that I would be required to make any payment claims and then file police report and request for reimbursement. All help appreciated.
Friedberger
12-11-14, 19:32
Apologies to the admins if this is the wrong place for this post- first timer here.
My friend and I will be cutting across Germany in a few weeks and would like to visit a FKK. We've narrowed it down to three cities: Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, or Cologne. Neither of us have done this before so we're ot too picky, just looking to relax and enjoy some companionship in a clean, hospitable environment. We'll be traveling via train so the preference is to stay near the central station and visit a club that is easily (and quickly) accessible by public transit. We will be arriving on a Monday around noon, checking in to hotel, heading to the club for the day, then leaving the next day so the emphasis here is on a logistically simple outing. Based on my research (thanks to all who contribute, the amount of info on this site is amazing) the current favorite is to visit Frankfurt and go to Mainhattan. Any advice or comments are eagerly awaited.I'd go to Palace in Frankfurt--just take your time scoping the scene and you'll be fine, or consider Artemis in Berlin which meets all your criteria.
Solid State
12-11-14, 19:37
Hello All, Few post back there was a brief discussion that car rental in Germany is about 20-30 euros per day. My search agrees with this for the car rental daily rate, however, how does one handle the insurance coverage. The insurance coverage if not waived was twice the rate of the car rental? Total coverage was estimated for two days 138 euros. Insurance for collision and covering the deductible. I check with credit card company and it was noted that I would be required to make any payment claims and then file police report and request for reimbursement. All help appreciated.I rent cars about 3 times a year and all with the full insurance (which means if anything happens to the car you pay nothing). On the last occasion I tried to save some money and only have the basic insurance which was far far cheaper. And I believe I dodged a bullet. I made a point of checking the car in the day light before taking it and during my time never parked beside anyone. Upon return the attendant pointed out something that could only be seen from a particular angle and would have needed to have known it was there previously I'm sure. Luckily for me I had a decent rapor with the attendant and he agreed to put the indent damage down to the previous driver. Something tells me he was going against his pay masters by doing this. It is not a fiction that car hire companies pass off some minor damages on unsuspecting customers who only have basic insurance and are therefore liable!!
For peace of mind pay the extra or take your chances!
I have been planning to visit the FKK clubs around Frankfurt for a while.
I will be in Frankfurt next Sunday. First time to a German FKK. Being a Sunday which club would be best. I will have a rental car so driving not a problem.
Thanks
Hello All, Few post back there was a brief discussion that car rental in Germany is about 20-30 euros per day. My search agrees with this for the car rental daily rate, however, how does one handle the insurance coverage. The insurance coverage if not waived was twice the rate of the car rental? Total coverage was estimated for two days 138 euros. Insurance for collision and covering the deductible. I check with credit card company and it was noted that I would be required to make any payment claims and then file police report and request for reimbursement. All help appreciated.I checked Expedia. It's only $11 per day extra for insurance. Did I miss something?
PacificRim
12-11-14, 20:32
If you are paying from a US account you can't go wrong by renting through kemwel. Com. I've used them multiple times and they give great service. I have received the cars from Hertz, Avis and Eurocar through kemwel. The liability insurance is covered by the rental agency, and as you have noted your credit card company will cover collision under the terms of your agreement with them. Unfortunately for me I have had the occasion to use the credit card for collision coverage. I did have to pay up front for the damage and I did need a police report. It was a hassle as all accidents are, but overall it wasn't that bad. I've done it again since then.
As a side note, when renting in Italy you are required to get full coverage. I have recently rented for 3 days in Italy for $100 or so full coverage. Not that that would help much in Germany, but I'm guessing that the rates would be similar through kemwel. Worth a check.
PacificRim
12-11-14, 20:37
I just checked on kemwel and a 3-day rental of a VW Polo from Frankfurt Hahn with complete coverage is $145, with just liability it's $87. Dates I chose were Jan 10-13.
PussyLiccker
12-12-14, 03:36
In regards to car rental, make sure to check for unlimited mileage on the agreement if doing lots of miles. If not unlimited miles, some will charge additional per mile / or km beyond allotted daily mileage. I club at the NRW and Hessen so at times I could go over daily allowed mileage if I had a limited mileage contract. Also, be aware some car companies will require you to drop high deposit like Dollar, Enterprise, or thrifty (pull this on you at the time of pickup) if you don't have documentation from your credit car provider, and they will give you an alternative with lower deposit with much higher rental rate. Didn't have this problem with Sixt, Europcar, or Hertz. Make sure you have a credit card, not a debit card. You should check with your credit card provider if they provide insurance.
PussyLiccker
12-12-14, 03:47
I can't recall a sepcial way to be approached, I guess every girl has her own technique. But overall, I just don't like those who push too hard, and keep asking "why when what" even if I refuse her politely.
But most importantly, for me, is not the way she approaches me, but whether she's my type. If I like this girl, I don't really care she comes to me LOL.The problem I face most of the time is the ones approach are the ones I'm not interested in. If a stunner approaches me, of course I would take her right away. I have not run into a stunner that approaches, they wait for the man to approach.
As far as running into a girl that had great chemistry in the room, for me it's half/half interms of approach and no approach. I've had girls that approach, but not in an aggressive way, come sit next to me, and strike up a convo. Those were the ones that turned out to be the wild ones in the room. I've also had the ones that I approached, and turned out to be wild as well. Based on this, I believe some approach out of interest, and you will find out in the room. I like the ones you know are interested when you make eye contact, and they are open for approach, and the chemistry turns out the way you expected.
I've also had outliers that gives off bad vibes, but turned out to be very good sessions, but rare. Those are the ones I take risks if they are very attractive.
Faceless78
12-12-14, 11:40
The problem I face most of the time is the ones approach are the ones I'm not interested in. If a stunner approaches me, of course I would take her right away. I have not run into a stunner that approaches, they wait for the man to approach.
As far as running into a girl that had great chemistry in the room, for me it's half/half interms of approach and no approach. I've had girls that approach, but not in an aggressive way, come sit next to me, and strike up a convo. Those were the ones that turned out to be the wild ones in the room. I've also had the ones that I approached, and turned out to be wild as well. Based on this, I believe some approach out of interest, and you will find out in the room. I like the ones you know are interested when you make eye contact, and they are open for approach, and the chemistry turns out the way you expected.
I've also had outliers that gives off bad vibes, but turned out to be very good sessions, but rare. Those are the ones I take risks if they are very attractive.True, I don't have too much experiences, but from what I learnt from the several club I've been to, my favorite girls after some visit are always those who sit back (almost). I think one big reason is that those popular girls don't need to chaise for clients, their face, body, service, personality or whatever men find attractive will lead you to her.
On the other hand, when those pushing girls come around, usually are those who needs find business to do, but we don't buy it and refuse. When they are out of clients for hours, their mind go nervous or crazy and they could become even more aggressive.
I seem to remember reading about this somewhere on the forum, but I can't find it. Do any of the FKKs in Frankfurt have space to store luggage? I have an upcoming business trip to a non-monger destination, so I plan to fit in layovers in Frankfurt before and after my trip. On the way out, I only have one day (mid-day until early next morning) so I was thinking of spending the entire time in an FKK instead of getting a hotel. Are any of the clubs willing to hold my baggage? I can fit my small carry-on in my locker, but I'll have a checked bag, a medium-sized locking aluminum suitcase, as well and there's no way that one will fit.
I was thinking I'd go for Oase and I emailed them but they have not responded to my question. Mainhatten is also an option, but since I'll be there for a long time and plan to do 5-6 sessions perhaps the larger staff at Oase would be better.
Hessen Bub
12-12-14, 17:20
If a stunner approaches me, of course I would take her right away. I have not run into a stunner that approaches, they wait for the man to approach.
That is not true. I've been approached by many stunners. Why shouldn't they approach the men? The good times in which a girl would just sit around and wait and money / guys just fall off the trees are long gone.
HB.
Hessen Bub
12-12-14, 17:22
I seem to remember reading about this somewhere on the forum, but I can't find it. Do any of the FKKs in Frankfurt have space to store luggage? I have an upcoming business trip to a non-monger destination, so I plan to fit in layovers in Frankfurt before and after my trip. On the way out, I only have one day (mid-day until early next morning) so I was thinking of spending the entire time in an FKK instead of getting a hotel. Are any of the clubs willing to hold my baggage? I can fit my small carry-on in my locker, but I'll have a checked bag, a medium-sized locking aluminum suitcase, as well and there's no way that one will fit.
I was thinking I'd go for Oase and I emailed them but they have not responded to my question. Mainhatten is also an option, but since I'll be there for a long time and plan to do 5-6 sessions perhaps the larger staff at Oase would be better.I've seen many guys store luggage at Oase, Mainhattan, Sharks, Palace. Shouldn't be an issue.
HB.
Florida Sun
12-12-14, 19:21
That is not true. I've been approached by many stunners. Why shouldn't they approach the men? We all agree aggressive does not work on men and negative approach is fatal. The only thing remaining is, does feeling comfortable with the initial contact contribute to the session success. I believe it does and can build anticipation that will last in the room if not ruined by bad service. This friendliness will also contribute to the likelihood of repeat session. I find girls who are not after a quick conquest are more pleasant as you repeat and the opposite to be true.
Hessen Bub
12-12-14, 19:23
+1. But that doesn't relate to looks.
HB.
Faceless78
12-12-14, 23:00
We all agree aggressive does not work on men and negative approach is fatal. The only thing remaining is, does feeling comfortable with the initial contact contribute to the session success. I believe it does and can build anticipation that will last in the room if not ruined by bad service. This friendliness will also contribute to the likelihood of repeat session. I find girls who are not after a quick conquest are more pleasant as you repeat and the opposite to be true.G.
Yet the question remains: will you take a friendly girl, when she's not your type, or simply not good looking?
I've met some really kind girls, which could be my good friends in real life, I mean, the friends we can have dinner, party, trip together, but not in the club. We chat, talk about life, jokes, eating together but no rooms. Some times, I tell them honestly, we are friends and I won; t take you into rooms, but I can propose some free cash. Yet, none of them take that, which makes me believe more in my decision.
Friendship in clubs? I try not to think about that.
Banana Boi
12-12-14, 23:11
will you take a friendly girl, when she's not your type, or simply not good looking?Nope.
I'm not saying I don't sometimes choose a girl who isn't the hottest in the club because I click with her or think she's cool but she still has to be decent looking. I don't encourage ugly girls to work at FKK's.
Faceless78
12-13-14, 00:13
Nope.
I'm not saying I don't sometimes choose a girl who isn't the hottest in the club because I click with her or think she's cool but she still has to be decent looking. I don't encourage ugly girls to work at FKK's.May not be ugly, but in FKK, where hot girls are everywhere, even a normal-up looking girl will treat as "not good looking". But I have a very narrow taste of girls, so 90% of girls are not do-able for me, including some of the most hot ones.
PussyLiccker
12-13-14, 01:10
The problem I face most of the time is the ones approach are the ones I'm not interested in. If a stunner approaches me, of course I would take her right away. I have not run into a stunner that approaches, they wait for the man to approach.
That is not true. I've been approached by many stunners. Why shouldn't they approach the men? The good times in which a girl would just sit around and wait and money / guys just fall off the trees are long gone.
HB.You're misinterpreting. If you think some girls that approached you are stunners that true for you. LOL. I have not run into a girl that approached me that I would call a stunner. Usually the ones I wouldn't go for approaches.
Florida Sun
12-13-14, 01:38
Yet the question remains: will you take a friendly girl, when she's not your type, or simply not good looking?Definitely not, you never do anything that does not feel right. Personally I would rather do a non stunner who is friendly rather than a stunner who is rude. I value service over looks and I might be in the minority there, but I had done girls based on attitude and body type and was more satisfied than when attitude was negative and body and face were hot.
I recall walking into world last September and was offered a professional massage by a lesser attractive girl, who was licensed masseuse. I said just massage sound great as I was still recovering from the night before, I ended up staying for two hours and it was a great start of the day session for both of us as I also opted for some extras. The same girl was crying abut not making money later in the day which was a huge turnoff for me. Although she was not asking me for room time, but her mood was a buzz kill.
In summery it is all about the moment.
Faceless78
12-13-14, 01:40
You're misinterpreting. If you think some girls that approached you are stunners that true for you. LOL. I have not run into a girl that approached me that I would call a stunner. Usually the ones I wouldn't go for approaches.The mighty "don't-ever-take-those-who-approach-you rule" !
Hessen Bub
12-13-14, 10:19
You're misinterpreting. If you think some girls that approached you are stunners that true for you. LOL. I have not run into a girl that approached me that I would call a stunner. Usually the ones I wouldn't go for approaches.No, I am not. These are girls commonly known as stunners. Of course, if stunners for you are the fat old chubby ones. They never approach me. LOL.
HB.
Hessen Bub
12-13-14, 12:48
The mighty "don't-ever-take-those-who-approach-you rule" !!Following that rule I would have missed probably 5 out of the 10 best sessions ever in my mongering career.
HB.
TankTank123
12-13-14, 14:27
I seem to remember reading about this somewhere on the forum, but I can't find it. Do any of the FKKs in Frankfurt have space to store luggage?If you are taking a train, you can consider using the left luggage facility at the Frankfurt Hbf. It is located on the ground floor of the main building in-between the two entrances to the S-bahn. I find using this more convenient then lugging my luggage to the clubs.
I would stay at the clubs till closing time, take a train to the Frankfurt Hbf, collect my luggage, then go back down to take the first S8/S9 to the airport.
Bear in mind though that if your flight is on Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday morning, there would be a one hour gap between Oase closing time and the first train out of Friedrichsdorf at 0508. In Winter, it would be too freezing cold to wait at the platform as there is no enclosed space there. When my outgoing flight is on those days, I would go to World, where there is hardly any gap till the first train at 0430, and the interior of the station building is reasonably warm with chairs to sit on.
Faceless78
12-13-14, 14:42
Following that rule I would have missed probably 5 out of the 10 best sessions ever in my mongering career.
HB.Sure, I understand your point. But even if I take this very girl at last, I won't take her at the moment when she approaches me, but at the moment I go to her after.
Actually my all- time best girl was the one who approaches me when I entered OASE, so I guess I have to agree with you in some way.
Following that rule I would have missed probably 5 out of the 10 best sessions ever in my mongering career.
HB.Also consider this is a newbie rule, maybe for you it's different, being a regular the girls already know it's useless trying to shark you since you already know how to play the game or at least there will be less trying. But for a newbie? I think that really is a great rule, the more you get used to these kind of places the more you are experienced and don't need these kind of rules of course I agree with that.
BTW people do you think the 2nd week of January is going to be still too close to holidays to fully appreciate hessen's clubs lineup? (World, Oase, Sharks). Thanks.
Hessen Bub
12-13-14, 16:03
2nd week of January you can certainly fully appreciate Hessenclubs's line ups. Question is if you can appreciate the full line up at Hessenclubs. Many girls will be on holiday.
HB.
The mighty "don't-ever-take-those-who-approach-you rule" !!That rule would not be any helpful to me. A girl who approaches you may simply be more motivated at that time and you will be missing out on some good opportunities. And there will be sharks among them too, so you really need to separate the two.
Now, considering the FIRST girls that approach you in a club, things may be a bit different.
Faceless78
12-13-14, 16:39
That rule would not be any helpful to me. A girl who approaches you may simply be more motivated at that time and you will be missing out on some good opportunities. And there will be sharks among them too, so you really need to separate the two.
Now, considering the FIRST girls that approach you in a club, things may be a bit different.Yes the motivation. Sometimes it's the motivation for upsell or quick money. I'm at late 20's, but my face looks like 18, so I've met some girls treat me as a newbie who hardly visit FKKs and don't know the rules, then try to make money and tips with doing nothing. That's why I usually sit back and look for a while before I take my action.
And M. Mangga is right, usually after my 4th or 5th time visit, I get much less approaches, which is a release.
And the FIRST girl came to me in Oase? She is really special for me, so I don't think any rule fits for her.
Yes, I sit back and look for a while too, but that was not the point here, was it?
And no, I was not talking about your first girl ever in Oase, but I think you know that already.
2nd week of January you can certainly fully appreciate Hessenclubs's line ups. Question is if you can appreciate the full line up at Hessenclubs. Many girls will be on holiday.
HB.
so when do you think it would be a better time to visit? End of January? February?
Hessen Bub
12-13-14, 18:42
Yes. Like every year. Although in the last years due to business slowing down quite a few girls are taking just 2 or 3 weeks off. Sharks is again paying the girls to stay until beginning of January. Other clubs don't.
HB.
Sharks is again paying the girls to stay until beginning of January.The club girls I know, most of them romanians, like really much to spend Christmas with her family at home. So the Sharks offer is only an incentive for second and third class girls. Top class girls still make their money and a free entrance per day isn't worth to miss family at home and work on Christmas. So almost all top class girls I know go home at Christmas / New Year's Eve with only few exceptions.
Faceless78
12-13-14, 19:45
Yes, I sit back and look for a while too, but that was not the point here, was it?
And no, I was not talking about your first girl ever in Oase, but I think you know that already.Yeah, I miss the point there, some thought came cross.
I understand what you were, keep in girl motivated is always important. And I think we could end the discussion here, it's just some personal choice, everyone has its own tricks or rules.
Finnish Fucker
12-13-14, 19:56
You're misinterpreting. If you think some girls that approached you are stunners that true for you. LOL. I have not run into a girl that approached me that I would call a stunner. Usually the ones I wouldn't go for approaches.I would say there are no rules which kind of girls approaches the guys. Usually the bad looking ones are more active since they do not get so much business. But if the club is quiet then also the better ones are hunting for customers. Unless they are fully booked by regulars.
The club girls I know, most of them romanians, like really much to spend Christmas with her family at home. So the Sharks offer is only an incentive for second and third class girls. Top class girls still make their money and a free entrance per day isn't worth to miss family at home and work on Christmas. So almost all top class girls I know go home at Christmas / New Year's Eve with only few exceptions.I have slightly different intel; 7 out of my 10 favourites are working between Christmas and New Year. Surprising enough. Most of them also Romanian. Business has not been good lately.
PH
PussyLiccker
12-13-14, 20:06
I would say there are no rules which kind of girls approaches the guys. Usually the bad looking ones are more active since they do not get so much business. But if the club is quiet then also the better ones are hunting for customers. Unless they are fully booked by regulars.That's true, but I was referring to stunners, and there are only a few girls that I would call real stunners run into and I haven't seen them approach.
Finnish Fucker
12-13-14, 20:09
I'm at late 20's, but my face looks like 18, so I've met some girls treat me as a newbi who hardly visit fkks and don't know the rules, then try to make money and tips with doing nothing. That's why I usually sit back and look for a while before I take my action.
Late 20's with a face like 18. Man, what the hell are you doing in FKK clubs? That combination of yours is lethal in bars and nightclubs giving you tool for ultimate freebie pickups. I would gladly give my left testicle now to be again in my late 20's.
Finnish Fucker
12-13-14, 20:11
That's true, but I was referring to stunners, and there are only a few girls that I would call real stunners run into and I haven't seen them approach.True. The real stunners are not in FKK clubs, they work in other venues.
The real stunners are not in FKK clubs, they work in other venues.Where? I'm curious to find them. LOL.
But you're right. Real stunners combined with brightness, youth and top act service are very very very very rare. In all Hessen clubs together at the same time never more than five.
Hessen Bub
12-13-14, 20:31
there are only a few girls that I would call real stunners run into and I haven't seen them approach.Any names?
HB.
PussyLiccker
12-13-14, 20:39
Where? I'm curious to find them. LOL.
But you're right. Real stunners combined with brightness, youth and top act service are very very very very rare. In all Hessen clubs together at the same time never more than five.For me that's about the number on my trips combined, includes Berlin, Hessen, and NRW. I'd like to know which places FF is referring to.
Faceless78
12-13-14, 22:32
Late 20's with a face like 18. Man, what the hell are you doing in FKK clubs? That combination of yours is lethal in bars and nightclubs giving you tool for ultimate freebie pickups. I would gladly give my left testicle now to be again in my late 20's.Hahah, you are damn right! I do go to those places from time to time, but visiting club is another thing.
The big issue for me, is I can't really drink, which prevent me from going to nightclubs or bars too much; and I usually have an "official" girlfriend by my side, ultimate pickup could be a challenge for me. What's more, FKK is a total different experience than outside.
I'm not a regular to FKKs, a 3-5 days trip every month is as much as I can get. Actually last time I in Germany was in Sept, too much work going on lately.
I don't have too much living expenses, the only thing I spend money on is food and girl, so, Michelins and FKKs, here I come!
Faceless78
12-13-14, 22:35
For me that's about the number on my trips combined, includes Berlin, Hessen, and NRW. I'd like to know which places FF is referring to.I would like to know those places as well.
But I assume some high-end private membership secret clubs could be a possible answer. Or some independent ones, I've heard some really expense ones, but never have the gut to try
UShobbyist
12-13-14, 22:44
Where? I'm curious to find them. LOL.
But you're right. Real stunners combined with brightness, youth and top act service are very very very very rare. In all Hessen clubs together at the same time never more than five.Based on my personal experience, the beautiful girls usually give below average services while the average looking girls may give good services.
Interesting discussion. Roxana at Sharks who everybody seems to be something very special. She is definitely not a stunner and she approached me.
Finnish Fucker
12-14-14, 13:30
Where? I'm curious to find them. LOL.
But you're right. Real stunners combined with brightness, youth and top act service are very very very very rare. In all Hessen clubs together at the same time never more than five.Actually I don't know, LOL. I guess some of the elite escort agencies in major capital cities have some of these stunners. I have not used these services. Or some high-end private membership secret clubs as Mr. Faceless mentioned.
The best looking girls I have seen were in a Moscow nightclub. Endless array of stunners, normal girls. But they will not fuck for a 50 Euro. Maybe with 5000 Euro they would open their legs to an ordinary mortal like me, lol.
Finnish Fucker
12-14-14, 13:31
Based on my personal experience, the beautiful girls usually give below average services while the average looking girls may give good services.This is often true but there are exceptions, as always in life.
Hessen Bub
12-14-14, 13:55
This is often true but there are exceptions, as always in life.Oh yes. There are exceptions. And you just have to find them.
HB.
I am a newbie, I have visited LR for three days last year, I had a great time, I have tried to open thread for FKK Sauna Club Oceans to receive info and was unable, if anyone has had any experience at Oceans please let me know what you think as I am visiting Dusseldorf the 3rd week in January.
Faceless78
12-14-14, 16:37
Actually I don't know, LOL. I guess some of the elite escort agencies in major capital cities have some of these stunners. I have not used these services. Or some high-end private membership secret clubs as Mr. Faceless mentioned.
The best looking girls I have seen were in a Moscow nightclub. Endless array of stunners, normal girls. But they will not fuck for a 50 Euro. Maybe with 5000 Euro they would open their legs to an ordinary mortal like me, lol.I know some rich bastards in London, they pay for 1000-3000 pounds for one fuck, plus 15-20% tips. Collage students, models what what what.
And if you want go further, I used to know a guy, whose father running gold mines in Africa, he only fucks those on TV, singers, actress, hostess, reality show stars and what what. But not the famous ones of course, those are for his dad, as he mentioned.
Unfortunately, now, at age of early 30's, he has lost the "ability" to fuck a real woman, or maybe "passion" is the more accurate word. Since he can still masturbate himself, but can't get any erection in front of a naked woman. Since he hasn't develop any interest in men, he began to use drugs. Funny thing is that himself has Phd in chemistry, so he claims to know the balance BTW mental pleasure and physical health.
But now he looks like a drug user even 500 meters away.
True. The real stunners are not in FKK clubs, they work in other venues.Real stunners 10-11's are not in FKKs.
They are elite $1000/ HR call-girls NYC, Paris, LA, Moscow.
Most of these "stunners" are just thin and to the average monger who is 50+ or even 65+ years they consider this "model" quality because she's under 35. Trust me if you could bang a model for 50 euros, the world economy has collapsed.
Vast majority of FKK gals most 20's-30's guys would consider curvy, chunky, muffin-tops with very, very avg. / gypsy faces.
Check out my review of Globe in Zurich; the home of 10's / models / stunners-- I found zero.
Privat clubs / studios like Aphrodisia have some 9+. See Mara in girls page; 180 cm with true proportions of model.
I think there is a lot of "lost in translation" in these claims of stunners / models.
65+ and 30 year old men have very, very different standards!
I know some rich bastards in london, they pay for 1000-3000 pounds for one fuck, plus 15-20% tips. Collage students, models what what what.Yes, that's the price in New York City and LA / Beverly Hills.
At Playboy mansion parties, you can pay $1500 to get in (Karma Society) and like 200 escorts are like this.
Painted nude; and will be happy to meet at after party or VIP areas of mansion for $1-3 K.
In Zurich forums they were going on and on that no where in world are stunners more than $500.
Elite pussy is "you get what you pay for". Period.
And if you want go further, I used to know a guy, whose father running gold mines in afrique, he only fucks those on TV, singers, actress, hostess, reality show stars and what what. But not the famous ones of course.That's not that hard.
I live in Hollywood and bang those; as long as you have house in Hollywood Hills and nice wheels, there are many.
I find them on dating sites actually.
Hessen Bub
12-14-14, 18:25
I am a newbie, I have visited LR for three days last year, I had a great time, I have tried to open thread for FKK Sauna Club Oceans to receive info and was unable, if anyone has had any experience at Oceans please let me know what you think as I am visiting Dusseldorf the 3rd week in January.There's a separate thread for Oceans.
HB.
Serenda Lover
12-22-14, 09:42
Is there any FKK located at or around Bremen? If yes; can you share with me any info, I plan to make a visit to Bremen in January and would like to go to an FKK if possible.
Is there any FKK located at or around Bremen?One club:
http://www.fkk-5a.de
Some more info:
http://www.fkk24.de/Club/FKK+5A
And one Partytreff:
http://www.partytreff-bremen.de
MikeDundas2403
12-23-14, 10:48
Does anyone know if its just a normal day today at Artemis? If so, what's the line up normally like this close to Christmas? I just don't want to go if its normally pretty quiet.
Thanks
PussyLiccker
12-24-14, 12:19
For those that has been attending clubs up to now, how much has the girls numbers has dropped in the clubs with the holidays getting close? What percentage has dropped since the peak times when there were the most number of girls? Which clubs in Hessen or NRW are most affected, and less? By what percentage?
Thanks,
PL.
For those that has been attending clubs up to now, how much has the girls numbers has dropped in the clubs with the holidays getting close? What percentage has dropped since the peak times when there were the most number of girls? Which clubs in Hessen or NRW are most affected, and less? By what percentage?
Yes of course the number of girls is now during Christmas / new years eve break smaller than at peak times. What percentage difficult. But the number of girls is in the last years from year to year larger during this period. Look at the incredible number of clubs in Hessen and NRW opening at Christmas days and / or celebrate new years eves parties. So a lot of girls stay in Germany and work in the clubs. Some years ago a lot of clubs closed at these days.
But now comes the point. The girls really enjoy Christmas at home with her family. That mean girls have made enough money will almost in any case go home (to Romania or.) and celebrate at home with family. Only the girls haven't made enough money see their chance with less competition and will work at clubs during this time.
So all my favs are at Romania right now. I was the last days at Oase. Oase has for me in the last month the best line up of all Hessen clubs but now only few beauties are left at Burgholzhausen and none of them is a top act performer for me. So the next two weeks I'll reduce number of club visits.
So guys will find enough girls at the clubs during the next two weeks but most of the really good girls (meaning optic and performance) aren't there. Of course you can find some exceptions.
I am coming down to Germany from Jan 2 - 10 for a good FKK tour. I really like Germany. I like the food and shopping as well.
I will be starting in Fra and going through Koln finishing in Dusseldorf. I haven't figured out the specific sites yet. I know the number of girls is going to be down.
What I really like are silicone tits and BBBJ, DFK and DATY. I had a few Qs:
1. Which places are the best for fake tits?
2. Who are the girls I should ask for that do the deepthroat BBBJ?
3. If there are privates or girls you know outside of FKK, please PM me.
Greatly appreciated!
Banana Boi
12-25-14, 04:46
Definitely GT in NRW for fakes. Magnum maybe?
Not really sure about the service of all the girls since I don't find many reviews but you may want to consider the Termin Girls in Ratingen for a non-FKK consideration.
PussyLiccker
12-25-14, 05:01
I just realized the meaning of Luv Fake's nick. LOL.
My favorite German girl at Magnum has nice fake tig o betties! She's cute though. Fakes don't annoy me too much.
Artemis is the like the home field for fakes along with Palace. The big money clubs. I'd look around Hessen or Artemis. I've seen some at Sharks. Artemis probably has the crown on enhanced girls.
GT has Megan with fakes that don't look terrible. Samia has perfectly shaped fakes. I believe Vera's biggs are fakes also. Make sure to check out GT.
Also the working girl retirement home we call Palace in Frankfurt has good amount of older blond enhanced girls.
For those that has been attending clubs up to now, how much has the girls numbers has dropped in the clubs with the holidays getting close? What percentage has dropped since the peak times when there were the most number of girls? Which clubs in Hessen or NRW are most affected, and less? By what percentage?
Thanks,
PL.These weeks starting the week before Christmas are generally the poorest in terms of line up for the year. From now until the Eastern Orthodox Christmas on Jan 6 I'd expect numbers to be down but by MLK holiday weekend most should be back- that's nine days post epiphany.
T is every year the same: from around December 20 to January 20 many of the girls are back home, so the line up is not so strong, just in a period where many men have holiday and want to visit a club. Result: clubs are dominated by men, and you are challenged to get the girl you want. Only Sharks seems ok (it they still have the 1000 euro bonus for the girls to stay! Or the smaller clubs where not so many men go to.
PussyLiccker
01-03-15, 02:09
T is every year the same: from around December 20 to January 20 many of the girls are back home, so the line up is not so strong, just in a period where many men have holiday and want to visit a club. Result: clubs are dominated by men, and you are challenged to get the girl you want. Only Sharks seems ok (it they still have the 1000 euro bonus for the girls to stay! Or the smaller clubs where not so many men go to.I was at Sharks, and indeed the LU was bigger and better than other clubs around NRW and Hessen. Clubs I've tried are YY, GT, ACA, Samya, DV, Magnum, World, Sharks, and unfortunately, Oceans. The new increase in price deters me from checking it out even more (not that I have any interest in coming back). Only days I've tried so far at Oceans were a Tuesday and a Sunday. Did the 2 for 1 entry before the recent price hike. Both days, the LU was slim are wasn't worth it. My experience is 1 bad session, and I walked out on a girl with a bad attitude on the other day.
My holiday FKK / SC visit ranking with ratio of good sessions per number of sessions. Not too many girls tried since girls are scarce that time of the year. Sharks had the greater LU. I prefered Samya because of the girl I met that was extremely high on the repeat factor. 1 girl repeated from last trip at ACA. GT's LU was pretty much the same as other visits this year. Was about to check out Oase too, but a source deterred me from checking it out.
1. Sharks (4/5). Could be 5/5, but -1 for a girl upselling heavily in the room.
2. YY (2/3).
3. Samya (1/1). High on the list because of a running into most repeated gem.
4. GT (1/1) repeat.
5. ACA (2/2) 1 repeat.
6. DV (0/1).
5. Magnum (1/1).
7. World (1/1).
8. Mondial (0/0)
9. Oceans (0/0)
Faceless78
01-03-15, 02:53
I was at Sharks, and indeed the LU was bigger and better than other clubs around NRW and Hessen. Clubs I've tried are YY, GT, ACA, Samya, DV, Magnum, World, Sharks, and unfortunately, Oceans. The new increase in price deters me from checking it out even more (not that I have any interest in coming back). Only days I've tried so far at Oceans were a Tuesday and a Sunday. Did the 2 for 1 entry before the recent price hike. Both days, the LU was slim are wasn't worth it. My experience is 1 bad session, and I walked out on a girl with a bad attitude on the other day.
My holiday FKK / SC visit ranking with ratio of good sessions per number of sessions. Not too many girls tried since girls are scarce that time of the year. Sharks had the greater LU. I prefered Samya because of the girl I met that was extremely high on the repeat factor. 1 girl repeated from last trip at ACA. GT's LU was pretty much the same as other visits this year. Was about to check out Oase too, but a source deterred me from checking it out.
1. Sharks (4/5). Could be 5/5, but -1 for a girl upselling heavily in the room.
2. YY (2/3).
3. Samya (1/1). High on the list because of a running into most repeated gem.
4. GT (1/1) repeat.
5. ACA (2/2) 1 repeat.
6. DV (0/1).
5. Magnum (1/1).
7. World (1/1).
8. Mondial (0/0)
9. Oceans (0/0)I don't know why, but when I'm in Samya, I always feel this one is slightly different with others.
Banana Boi
01-03-15, 03:12
2. YY (2/3).
4. GT (1/1) repeat.
5. ACA (2/2) 1 repeat.
YY had overall prettier girls than GT and ACA? Which day were you at YY?
PussyLiccker
01-03-15, 03:24
YY had overall prettier girls than GT and ACA? Which day were you at YY?I find the LU to be better on a visit before the holidays. There were girls I haven't seen before at other clubs made it better. I find there to have different girls on my visits. GT LU hasn't changed so I was looking for other girls, and YY has girls I've haven't seen before. My first visit there I've seen good number of girls from other NRW clubs, and later visit I didn't seem them. Pretty much all Romanians, and mostly young girls, and you find some pretty Romanians there. The bad part is that it can get to be a major sausage fest starting around 8 pm on Saturday as I've only visited on Saturdays. You need to decide quick before it gets busy.
PussyLiccker
01-03-15, 03:39
I don't know why, but when I'm in Samya, I always feel this one is slightly different with others.I agree that Samya is a different club. It has it's regulars like other clubs, but I've noticed girls being attached to regulars more recently than my visits in the past. On a slow day of course more girls available not tied up with their regulars.
My best visits were back in 2013 with Romanians with looks I preferred more coming out of Hessen at the time. I was quite surprised to see some of optiks there that I've not run into much in Hessen. Of course my taste is in facials, but lots of them were slim although I like a bit of hips and non-flat ass. LOL. Angie of Oase came from there, and I was looking at other girls too since there were several young attractive Romanians there. It's a bit of contrast from Oase where it's more business like as we know reports of Angie in that thread of her upselling. Young pretty girls spending a bit of time on the couch is a big plus. Veronica or my Lori with a pretty face and very nice body came from there who is working at Magnum now. Adele with pretty face came from there also. It was one of the clubs I was thinking Romanian girls were super hot!! With DJ and girls in party mood on the weekend really helps, but the current LU can be better.
When you run into the right girl there, it can be a great night.
Faceless78
01-03-15, 04:28
I agree that Samya is a different club. It has it's regulars like other clubs, but I've noticed girls being attached to regulars more recently than my visits in the past. On a slow day of course more girls available not tied up with their regulars.
My best visits were back in 2013 with Romanians with looks I preferred more coming out of Hessen at the time. I was quite surprised to see some of optiks there that I've not run into much in Hessen. Of course my taste is in facials, but lots of them were slim although I like a bit of hips and non-flat ass. LOL. Angie of Oase came from there, and I was looking at other girls too since there were several young attractive Romanians there. It's a bit of contrast from Oase where it's more business like as we know reports of Angie in that thread of her upselling. Young pretty girls spending a bit of time on the couch is a big plus. Veronica or my Lori with a pretty face and very nice body came from there who is working at Magnum now. Adele with pretty face came from there also. It was one of the clubs I was thinking Romanian girls were super hot!! With DJ and girls in party mood on the weekend really helps, but the current LU can be better.
When you run into the right girl there, it can be a great night.Yeah. The lu was quite disappointed in December, talents move out since they can make much more in other clubs. But I always visit certain club for one or two girls, and I usually check before I move, so in most of the nights I have a great night .
I will be in FRA from 14 to 18 Jan.
I will have three visits; Do you think World worth a visit over Sharks and Oase?
Is there anyone can comment on the LU of Oase, Sharks and World and maybe Samya at that period?
Do you think it will recover from Christmas or should I still be feeling it's effect?
Regards.
I will be in FRA from 14 to 18 Jan.
I will have three visits; Do you think World worth a visit over Sharks and Oase?
Is there anyone can comment on the LU of Oase, Sharks and World and maybe Samya at that period?
Do you think it will recover from Christmas or should I still be feeling it's effect?
Regards.Ciao Iceberg27, we will miss just for a few days. I should be up in Frankfurt shortly after your visit. No Palace this time, I'll be visiting Sharks for the first time and then back to Oase after at least 2 years. It's going to be fun visiting other fkks after 2 years of Artemis non stop. Have fun!
Kimino.
Any body know why edit option disappears? Sometimes I can't edit my posts. Thanks.
Any body know why edit option disappears? Sometimes I can't edit my posts. Thanks.You are only given a short time in which to edit your posts.
Any body know why edit option disappears? Sometimes I can't edit my posts. Thanks.In my experience, I was able to edit my posts as long as it stayed at the top of the thread. Edit option disappears as soon as the thread is updated by someone else.
Neurosynth
01-04-15, 03:38
Did I miss a memo or something? What does "LU" stand for?
Did I miss a memo or something? What does "LU" stand for?I don't like abbreviations either Neurosynth.
FiddyCent.
PussyLiccker
01-04-15, 04:13
In my experience, I was able to edit my posts as long as it stayed at the top of the thread. Edit option disappears as soon as the thread is updated by someone else.You have an hour period to edit.
Did I miss a memo or something? What does "LU" stand for?I believe it means "line up".
Ciao Iceberg27, we will miss just for a few days. I should be up in Frankfurt shortly after your visit. No Palace this time, I'll be visiting Sharks for the first time and then back to Oase after at least 2 years. It's going to be fun visiting other fkks after 2 years of Artemis non stop. Have fun!
Kimino.Ciao Kimino,
For me Artemis is still the place that I had most fun because it has two kinos. I am sure you will like Sharks. Try Jacuzzi there with a girl.
Thanks.
Regards.
PussyLiccker
01-04-15, 18:00
Ciao Kimino,
For me Artemis is still the place that I had most fun because it has two kinos. I am sure you will like Sharks. Try Jacuzzi there with a girl.
Thanks.
Regards.I have taken a girl up to the jacuzzi on one of my visits, and it's a great spot to relax and make-out with a girl. Never really thought about going up there until one of the girl I was talking to wanted to try it out, and had a great time.
During Silvester's there were lots of action in the kino at Sharks. I prefer to take a girl up a room where is brighter so I can view her better. LOL.
Neurosynth
01-05-15, 01:35
I believe it means "line up".Thanks! It's apparently a big hassle to type those 5 extra keystrokes.
I have taken a girl up to the jacuzzi on one of my visits, and it's a great spot to relax and make-out with a girl. Never really thought about going up there until one of the girl I was talking to wanted to try it out, and had a great time.
During Silvester's there were lots of action in the kino at Sharks. I prefer to take a girl up a room where is brighter so I can view her better. LOL.Dear PL (That means Pussylicker!! LOL),
It is also possible to take girl to the outside little pool in Artemis and I missed this opportunity in my last visit.
Any other different fucking experience in another FKK outside of Zimmer?
Please all others feel free to contribute. I really want to try smt different this time.
I know;.
Kino action in Artemis.
Couch action in Oase.
Jacuzzi action in Sharks.
Outside roof action in Artemis.
Wooden forest room action in GT (Brugge).
Regards.
TankTank123
01-05-15, 11:45
Please all others feel free to contribute. I really want to try smt different this.I have made out on:
Hammock at one of the ends of the small garden of GT Vienna in summer. But that was 3 years ago. As my last few visits were during the cold season, I did not venture to the garden and thus do not know whether the hammock is still there. I also made an attempt at doing it on the hammock in the garden in World last summer, but it was too narrow and unstable.
Rubber pool on rooftop of Swiss FKK in Zurich 2 years ago. I do not know whether it is still there.
Large stone massage bed in Hammam in Bumsalp.
Plenty of large couches, with sun shades, in the garden of Oase, including the elevated pavilion with large mirror.
Wooden huts in World.
I believe it means "line up".No, I think "line-up", the substantive, as opposed to "line up"; the verb, because people are generally talking about the LU status, not the action of lining up for something. It is quite a big difference.
No, I think "line-up", the substantive, as opposed to "line up"; the verb, because people are generally talking about the LU status, not the action of lining up for something. It is quite a big difference.I guess you've never been to a Nevada. The first thing you hear when to enter one of the houses is, "Line up ladies. " And the only difference is in your mind.
From Wikipedia:
Lineup, line up or line-up may refer to:
A queue area of waiting people.
A police lineup, or identity parade, of suspects.
The roster of a sports team at a given time.
And Websters doesn't list "line-up" at all.
What a silly argument in linguistics.
Its very clear that at FKK we talk about "line up" or line-up and sometimes use LU for short. Okay Its not a verb. Perhaps a sort of Euphemism.
Clearly the meaning is: that set of girls working at the club on that day and generally available for sex. This LU could be approximately detailed in the form of a list of girls, as I sometimes try to do as a service to some readers. It may not be in the official list of abbreviations. Its wise not to use abbreviations unless meaning should be obvious to nearly all readers.
ShoesAndSocks
01-06-15, 14:18
Any other different fucking experience in another FKK outside of Zimmer?
Please all others feel free to contribute.Globe in Zurich is the club where it is commonplace for "public" sessions within the club itself.
On a number of couches / sofas with varying degrees of privacy (including none!), kino, rooftop terrace, at the back bar, pretty much wherever you like as long as the lady is comfortable with it (and many are).
Applies also to Globe sister clubs like Swiss FKK, Westside, Club Palace, History.
TankTank123
01-06-15, 15:22
Globe in Zurich is the club where it is commonplace for "public" sessions within the club itself.
On a number of couches / sofas with varying degrees of privacy (including none!), kino, rooftop terrace, at the back bar, pretty much wherever you like as long as the lady is comfortable with it (and many are).Yes, I enjoyed trying out all the partially-enclosed themed spaces. My favorite spot is that tropical-looking hut that you climb up to, overlooking the main area. Strangely, it seems that few others like it as I was always able to find it empty.
I have not seen any public action on the main floor of Swiss FKK though in earlier years when I visited it regularly. Only witnessed it, and did it, at the rooftop pool and deck chairs. I visited History for a short while when I was in Basel last year, but did not see any public action there either.
ShoesAndSocks
01-06-15, 16:34
I have not seen any public action on the main floor of Swiss FKK though in earlier years when I visited it regularly. Only witnessed it, and did it, at the rooftop pool and deck chairs. I visited History for a short while when I was in Basel last year, but did not see any public action there either.Fair comment, I was mainly pointing out that the same rules apply across the Globe chain of clubs. I have not yet tried History or Westside.
At Swiss FKK, I have sessioned on a couch in the main lounge, but was very much the only one doing so that visit. Couches are a bit narrow for one thing. Got the impression it was more reserved than Globe, probably due to the much smaller (but much nicer) lounge.
Over half a dozen visits to Club Palace, I've seen (and done) quite a bit of action there. The upstairs lounge is very cool and relaxing option, and even down in the main bar, plus the outside lounges in summer.
I always find it takes someone to get things started, and then there can be a bit of follow-the-leader as others lose their inhibitions.
For anyone being a bit nervous about trying this for the first time, Globe would be the best option as every time I've visited there has been some degree of action, and many ladies seem quite keen on it.
TankTank123
01-06-15, 16:53
At Swiss FKK, I have sessioned on a couch in the main lounge, but was very much the only one doing so that visit. Couches are a bit narrow for one thing.
Over half a dozen visits to Club Palace, I've seen (and done) quite a bit of action there. The upstairs lounge is very cool and relaxing option, and even down in the main bar, plus the outside lounges in summer.The deck chairs are equally narrow!
I have been tempted to try out Club Palace many times when I was in Lucerne, but not having a car, I have not worked out whether it was accessible cheaply by train and taxi, and therefore always ended up in the erotik massage joints in Lucerne. Do you happen to know of a cheap and convenient way to get there?
ShoesAndSocks
01-06-15, 17:17
I have been tempted to try out Club Palace many times when I was in Lucerne. Do you happen to know of a cheap and convenient way to get there?From Lucerne, catch the S1 train to Gisikon-Root (about 15 minutes). Turn right out of the station, and walk for about 250 m until you get to a yellow three-storey building between the road & the tracks. Should see the sign telling you the entry is around the back. Entry CHF 100, and they will order take-away for you if you get hungry.
Yes, I enjoyed trying out all the partially-enclosed themed spaces. My favorite spot is that tropical-looking hut that you climb up to, overlooking the main area. Strangely, it seems that few others like it as I was always able to find it empty.
I have not seen any public action on the main floor of Swiss FKK though in earlier years when I visited it regularly. Only witnessed it, and did it, at the rooftop pool and deck chairs. I visited History for a short while when I was in Basel last year, but did not see any public action there either.
I have made out on:
Hammock at one of the ends of the small garden of GT Vienna in summer. But that was 3 years ago. As my last few visits were during the cold season, I did not venture to the garden and thus do not know whether the hammock is still there. I also made an attempt at doing it on the hammock in the garden in World last summer, but it was too narrow and unstable.
Rubber pool on rooftop of Swiss FKK in Zurich 2 years ago. I do not know whether it is still there.
Large stone massage bed in Hammam in Bumsalp.
Plenty of large couches, with sun shades, in the garden of Oase, including the elevated pavilion with large mirror.
Wooden huts in World.Still couldn't find smt worth to try.
Maybe I figure out myself this time.
Regards.
TankTank123
01-06-15, 23:16
From Lucerne, catch the S1 train to Gisikon-Root (about 15 minutes). Turn right out of the station, and walk for about 250 m until you get to a yellow three-storey building between the road & the tracks. Thanks! Sounds easy. I will try it out this month.
What a silly argument in linguistics.
Its very clear that at FKK we talk about "line up" or line-up and sometimes use LU for short. Okay Its not a verb. Perhaps a sort of Euphemism.
Clearly the meaning is: that set of girls working at the club on that day and generally available for sex. This LU could be approximately detailed in the form of a list of girls, as I sometimes try to do as a service to some readers. It may not be in the official list of abbreviations. Its wise not to use abbreviations unless meaning should be obvious to nearly all readers.I apologize. This is not a forum for grammatical discussions.
PussyLiccker
01-08-15, 02:21
I've taken girls to Jaccuzi at Mainhattan, but don't know how the great the LU at Mainhattan is now. It used to be my go to club for young pretty girls in Hessen.
Vito Corleone
01-11-15, 09:24
Probably not a big deal for locals in Germany visiting clubs, but who knows how this will effect travelers visiting. Long lines. & scrutiny at airport security checks & etc.
Are there FKK's or any other place that has group sex?
I'm looking for a Place in NRW that can offer me to stay the night after closing time. This would be a very practical. I have only found this possibility in Partytreff Xantener. Hotel option describe at at their web page? Do anyone know any other Place (FKK or other) that offers this?
Hessen Bub
01-11-15, 22:01
Probably not a big deal for locals in Germany visiting clubs, but who knows how this will effect travelers visiting. Long lines. & scrutiny at airport security checks & etc.Don't think it'll effect security at airports.
HB.
DavidSmith3
01-12-15, 00:29
Hi There,
I have been to Arthemis a few times and going to be in Dusseldorf for a couple of days. I read that in at least some of the places there the women are not naked or at least topless. Can anyone please give a quick review of in which clubs they are at least topless vs not.
Thanks,
B
Vito Corleone
01-12-15, 02:50
Don't think it'll effect security at airports.
HB.If the customs agent ask if I'm interested in 72 virgins I will respond "no, I am on my way to bang 72 non virgins!
Vito Corleone
01-12-15, 03:18
Hi There,
I have been to Arthemis a few times and going to be in Dusseldorf for a couple of days. I read that in at least some of the places there the women are not naked or at least topless. Can anyone please give a quick review of in which clubs they are at least topless vs not.
Thanks,
BVilla Venus in Duisburg.
Naked in Arabella and Grimberg (but these are a bit further from Dusseldorf, being in Gelsenkirchen/Bochum) I think also in Freude 39 (Bochum) and La Luna (Moers),(but haven't been recently). As far as I know nearly all other clubs are not naked.
Villa Venus in Duisburg.I was there today. It would be better if they were dressed up! LOL! LU in the dedicated thread.
Girls are totally naked in all AO clubs. You may happen to meet really few ones trying to keep a towel around their waists or around all the body. Normally, you will not want to verify what lies underneath.
Coming from a non AO club, even worse from Artemis, you will risk a shock
PussyLiccker
01-13-15, 04:22
Are there FKK's or any other place that has group sex?http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?762-Germany-Partytreff-Clubs
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3500-What-defines-a-quot-Gangbang-Club-quot-in-Germany
Trans Atlantic
01-14-15, 06:48
For those carrying US or HKSAR passports, you may now enroll in EasyPASS in FRA or MUC. This will allow you to use your biometric passport to enter / exit Germany at FRA / DUS / HAM / MUC using the automated gates that EU citizens (as well as UK and Swiss) use. The one difference is that once your passport is scanned and identity confirmed, a border guard monitoring the gates will have to stamp your passport.
http://easypass.eu
My last entry via DUS took over 20 minutes in the non-EU lane as I came in after another flight while the automated gates were empty. I will definitely enroll in this on my next trip.
Expect lots of hot new faces form Moscow and other babes suppliers.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-15/polish-banks-zloty-slump-as-swiss-franc-mortgages-get-expensive.html
Are there any lists or spreadsheets floating around?
It's hard to keep up--so many websites to visit. Since the start of the new year, I've heard about Villa Vertigo, Oceans, Sharks, World changing their happy hour promotions. Other clubs I know about are Acapulco, Sixsens (never been), FKK Salome / Herne. , Dolce Vita, Heaven7. I remember when World had a 50 EUR winter special all day Sunday. That was easier for me to remember, since most clubs have much more complex formulas where it is only specific days during certain hours.
More interested in the happy hour-based promotions, since an infrequent visitor can opt-in to review the line-up. The loyalty-based promotions (pay ten entries, get one free) only interest me if I run into a girl I like who happens to work consistently and predictably.
Trans Atlantic
01-16-15, 04:42
Expect lots of hot new faces form Moscow and other babes suppliers.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-15/polish-banks-zloty-slump-as-swiss-franc-mortgages-get-expensive.htmlNeed to book a couple of more trips this year esp with the USD gains over EUR. LOL.
Hi seniors,
I can see that most of the flat rate clubs and partytreff clubs are in NRW.
Are there any options other than treff188 or FKK Dietzenbach in Frankfurt area?
I have never been to such a place where there is unlimited sex, public sex.
I don't like ugly, fat girls. Who likes anyways? LOL. But I would like to try a combo of pleasant girls and great service.
Which ones would you recommend? Treff188 or Dietzenbach OR any other?
Thanks for your help.
Indimann
Indimann,
You have 12 "posts" where you only ask info, extensively available in this forum, you just need to read it.
Also, since you have been at least a couple of times in Germany last year, where are your field reports?
Hi guys,
Following some PMs and discussions had with a few mongers in clubs, specially in last 2-3 months, I would like to say something to those who read Freiercafe.
I specify that I speak about RTC clubs and that I'm aware that everyone has their own tastes.
First of all, the reviews are mostly written by old lads (I know that also here the very most of members are not youngsters) who are happy with very little. I'm sure about this also because I often read their posts about a day when the poster and I were in the same club.
Most important: while service (and tastes) may be different, a minimum of scale of beauty should be adopted. I mean that the very most of girls described as very or quite beautiful, WTF, they are not: the very most of girls are unfuckable even with a transfusion of viagra, some are hardly or reasonably fuckable. Often you have to use some imagination, close your eyes, look for a particular detail you may like and be happy with the service they give you.
The service can be better than what your best girlfriend ever gave you, surely better than that of your wife, on average you can be happy with that, specially considering what you pay. Even there, anyway, I don't know how much passion can an 18 year old girl put with an at least 55 year old man, but it is good to feel good and be happy, even using imagination or illusions.
So, I would say that enthusiastic comments about services are more likely to be credible than those about beauty.
BigBuddy69
01-19-15, 16:24
I am sorry but I am 37 and most of the girls in Villa Venus are more than fuckable, unless you are looking for the supermodel look.
Faceless78
01-19-15, 17:37
I am sorry but I am 37 and most of the girls in Villa Venus are more than fuckable, unless you are looking for the supermodel look.From my aspect, most of the men in Fkks are about your age range, 30's-40's. I don't see too many guys BTW 55-65 though, or at least don't look that age. And most of the girls are fuckable.
Once I saw a really old man in the lounge, he can't barely sit on his own (due to the sex or age I assume) so his girl was bit worried and had to helped him to dress up, but he had a handbag full of cash by the side which I took a second look to confirm LOL.
From my aspect, most of the men in Fkks are about your age range, 30's-40's. I don't see too many guys BTW 55-65 though, or at least don't look that age. And most of the girls are fuckable.
Once I saw a really old man in the lounge, he can't barely sit on his own (due to the sex or age I assume) so his girl was bit worried and had to helped him to dress up, but he had a handbag full of cash by the side which I took a second look to confirm LOL.I see many men who are more than 50 and fat in FKK and girls say me most of clients even when 30 take products to help them.
For me FKK are for dreams and like a sport = pleasure.
Hi guys,
Following some PMs and discussions had with a few mongers in clubs, specially in last 2-3 months, I would like to say something to those who read Freiercafe.
First of all, the reviews are mostly written by old lads (I know that also here the very most of members are not youngsters) who are happy with very little.
Most important: while service (and tastes) may be different, a minimum of scale of beauty should be adopted. I mean that the very most of girls described as very or quite beautiful, WTF, they are not: the very most of girls are unfuckable....some are hardly or reasonably fuckable. You will see posts like this once a month and the top posters will refuse to acknowledge this rather obvious issue.
Most mongers go because they are not able to get even avg. Hookers at home OR don't want to risk going to hotels, or brothels locally and being found out.
FKK gals are no better than your local hookers.
I don't believe any stunners (10's) exist in FKKs.
You will see posts like this once a month and the top posters will refuse to acknowledge this rather obvious issue.
I don't believe any stunners (10's) exist in FKKs.How many FKK club visits do you draw your opinions from? BTW the original poster wasn't talking about FKK clubs.
I specify that I speak about RTC clubs and that I'm aware that everyone has their own tastes.
FKK gals are no better than your local hookers.Depends who your local hookers are. In most cases eastern European women are going to compare very favourably to Americans.
Hi guys,
Following some PMs and discussions had with a few mongers in clubs, specially in last 2-3 months, I would like to say something to those who read Freiercafe.
I specify that I speak about RTC clubs and that I'm aware that everyone has their own tastes.
First of all, the reviews are mostly written by old lads (I know that also here the very most of members are not youngsters) who are happy with very little. I'm sure about this also because I often read their posts about a day when the poster and I were in the same club.
Most important: while service (and tastes) may be different, a minimum of scale of beauty should be adopted. I mean that the very most of girls described as very or quite beautiful, WTF, they are not: the very most of girls are unfuckable even with a transfusion of viagra, some are hardly or reasonably fuckable. Often you have to use some imagination, close your eyes, look for a particular detail you may like and be happy with the service they give you..How many FKK do you visit? Or you are really unlucky where and when you go.
I live in Paris where there are more than 300 escorts every day and mostly Russian girls and you can look on Amour Russe Agency site with real photos and videos.
Today 15 girls in this Agency which is number 1 in Paris and no of their girl interests me, because I know prettier girls in FKK for 100/ h instead of 200/250/ h.
Maybe I am the luckiest man to find in Sharks or Oase or only 1 but my best in World as pretty girls as the prettiest Russian escorts in Paris, but I can confirm you pretty girls exists in FKK.
Andrea. Bu brunette, Dina. Hu blond, Lis. Ro brunette, Evita. Ro brunette, Patricia. Mold at Sharks, but not necessarily GFE except Patricia and not my favorite.
Roxana. Ro, Cristina. Ro at Oase.
And I m sure for other who will return from holidays, that's why l drive Paris / FKK, FKK from Sakura in South to Babylon and Atmos in Hamburg, every week, only to meet prettier girls than escorts in Paris and also some with better services, because with car, gas and french motorway, it's not less expensive than meeting 2 Russian escorts in Paris.
UltraHappy
01-20-15, 13:30
You will see posts like this once a month and the top posters will refuse to acknowledge this rather obvious issue.
Most mongers go because they are not able to get even avg. Hookers at home OR don't want to risk going to hotels, or brothels locally and being found out.
FKK gals are no better than your local hookers.
I don't believe any stunners (10's) exist in FKKs.You see to be on a mission to convince the masses that FKK girls are not so great looking.
Sure, everyone has different tastes. Me, I go for the the girls who look like the young University cheerleaders type. If that is one's definition of a 10, then I find plenty of these around in the FKKs. As others have observed, I don't really care what the bottom 50% of a club looks like, I only care about what the top 10% in a club looks like.
Regarding local hookers, I find the FKK girls to look way better than the average hooker here in the States. The hookers in the States are on average terrible looking compared to the average FKK girl. And, we're not even talking about service, just looks. Of course, the FKK girls would blow away any American girl on a service level.
Hessen Bub
01-20-15, 14:08
Who cares about a Kaveman's opinion? Just take a look at the websites of the various FKK clubs in Germany which do have girl's photos. And judge for yourself. Tastes vary. I'm surprised how much money girls I'd rate as a 5 or below are making when lots of 8-10's are around. As long as I find girls to my taste providing good service, everything's fine.
HB.
Vito Corleone
01-20-15, 15:24
Who cares about a Kaveman's opinion?
HB.I'll second that!
Hessen Bub
01-20-15, 16:52
Because everyone knows website photos are a reflection of reality.If you can't tell what is photoshopped and what is real. Not my problem.
HB.
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