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Faceless78
01-20-15, 17:32
Because everyone knows website photos are a reflection of reality.I bet pictures on escort websites have far more P.S. Than those on FKK websites. I've many "exciting" experiences when opening the door or entering the door.
I am sorry but I am 37 and most of the girls in Villa Venus are more than fuckable, unless you are looking for the supermodel look.As I said, I respect everybody's opinions and tastes. In my opinion, the only girl you can define effortlessly fuckable in VV is Jasmine, great body, not great face, a bit of crooked teeth and a bit cold, mechanical. I re-fucked her last week.
Of course, if one loves fleshy (to say the least) girls, you will feel in paradise. Apart from the twins, slim but with gipsy male faces and haircomb (and attitude, too, specially when dressed up) I can remember a few girls I could lift when I was there, in last one year and a half: Larissa, Mara, ?
BTW, if you like ugly men, I'm very fuckable too, LOL!
How many FKK do you visit? Or you are really unlucky where and when you go.As I said, I spoke for RTCs. But last week I visited Rayna, normal club, I said it would have been tough for me even if I could AO over there.
Anyway, I didn't mean to cause arguments, I just meant to express an opinion / advice.
Citizen Kane
01-20-15, 20:04
I live in Paris where there are more than 300 escorts every day and mostly Russian girls and you can look on Amour Russe Agency site with real photos and videos.
What's the latest news on the French prostitution ban / Nordic model thing? Seems to have gone very quiet.
CK.
Hessen Bub
01-20-15, 20:16
Because everyone knows website photos are a reflection of reality.Look at Globe's website: You can't recognize the girls, all tattoos photoshopped, girls look much better than in reality.
Look at Paradise's website: Girls look in reality.
HB.
What's the latest news on the French prostitution ban / Nordic model thing? Seems to have gone very quiet.
CK.What do you mean?
Of course, I m waiting for attractive AMR girls soon for my after work during the week, and FKK girls for my relaxing in week end.
Citizen Kane
01-21-15, 07:53
What do you mean?
Of course, I m waiting for attractive AMR girls soon for my after work during the week, and FKK girls for my relaxing in week end.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25217185
I believe FKK Paradise in Saarbrucken was built, in part, to take advantage of it's closeness to the French border.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25217185
I believe FKK Paradise in Saarbrucken was built, in part, to take advantage of it's closeness to the French border.FKK Paradise Saarbrücken anticipated the application of the French law, but even law was voted, right now not yet in force, prostitution without soliciting outside is not forbidden and also no problems for escorts clients and I don t think this law can really be applicated in France.
And Paradise should improve his casting if wants to work a much as Prestige Neunkirchen close, 2 clubs may be too much around Saarbrücken which is not Stuttgart, with mostly French border.
Concerning Sweden, shame on them with Swedish who take boats to fuck and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) when they are drunk Estonian girls outside Sweden territorial waters, they just move the problem outside, among poor Estonian girls without protection.
As I said, I respect everybody's opinions and tastes. In my opinion, the only girl you can define effortlessly fuckable in VV is Jasmine, great body, not great face, a bit of crooked teeth and a bit cold, mechanical. I re-fucked her last week.
Of course, if one loves fleshy (to say the least) girls, you will feel in paradise. Apart from the twins, slim but with gipsy male faces and haircomb (and attitude, too, specially when dressed up) I can remember a few girls I could lift when I was there, in last one year and a half: Larissa, Mara?
BTW, if you like ugly men, I'm very fuckable too, LOL!
As I said, I spoke for RTCs. But last week I visited Rayna, normal club, I said it would have been tough for me even if I could AO over there.
Anyway, I didn't mean to cause arguments, I just meant to express an opinion / advice.Why do you want pretty girls play with their life having sex without condom?
Only girls who are not pretty enough accept to have sex without condom to make money, or maybe you believe they take so much risk for the pleasure to receive your cum in belly?
Even everybody will die, not like this for me.
Dasisextra
01-22-15, 08:02
Why do you want pretty girls play with their life having sex without condom?
Only girls who are not pretty enough accept to have sex without condom to make money, or maybe you believe they take so much risk for the pleasure to receive your cum in belly?
Even everybody will die, not like this for me.I was not aware that the forum had become a place to preach. Every once in awhile someone pips in with there opinion on unprotected sex, it is the choice of everyone of us who visit clubs to decide if we will go to an FKK an RTC or something in between, or a mix and match, but I for one do NOT want to be preached at by someone who partakes in the same hobby as the rest of us.
Was reading about this today. Has anyone used it? Any thoughts? I downloaded it but it doesn't seem to want to work.
If it does what it says on the tin it looks like it could be a useful thing to have.
Hessen Bub
01-22-15, 15:20
Was reading about this today. Has anyone used it? Any thoughts? I downloaded it but it doesn't seem to want to work.
If it does what it says on the tin it looks like it could be a useful thing to have.Just downloaded it. It get's stuck after entering a name and selecting "Gentleman".
Checked the website and selected Palace in FFM. It states that food and non-alcoholic beverages are not included, that entry is 60 EUR. Who needs that?!
HB.
Just downloaded it. It get's stuck after entering a name and selecting "Gentleman".
Checked the website and selected Palace in FFM. It states that food and non-alcoholic beverages are not included, that entry is 60 EUR. Who needs that?!
HB.Yes same thing happened with me. They seem to be pushing it so maybe there system can't meet the demand. The app might have more info on it than the website, so I might leave it for a day or two and try again.
Citizen Kane
01-22-15, 18:03
Checked the website and selected Palace in FFM. It states that food and non-alcoholic beverages are not included, that entry is 60 EUR. Who needs that?!
Does it also say, ' best service club in Germany' ?
Sirioja,
Risking AO has nothing to do with being ugly or beautiful. You are worried for the pretty ones but you don't care about the less pretty. A sort of discrimination.
Anyway, I'm often remarking how the look of the girls is generally low, and it is surely true that some of them can work only in AO clubs, some are unpresentable even there, but there are fuckable girls and sometimes out-of-place ones who are a gift, specially considering what you get and, most of all, for how much. They go in those clubs because they can make much more money, so it is intentional, not out of desperation or out of realizing that they are not models.
I have described a sad visit to a "normal" club, last week, ugly girls can be found everywhere.
With all the respect, I think your point is quite disagreeable.
P.S. Don't tell me you are not aware of girls doing AO in non-AO clubs. Also, beautiful ones!
Hessen Bub
01-22-15, 18:58
P.S. Don't tell me you are not aware of girls doing AO in non-AO clubs. Also, beautiful ones!Which by the way is true. Was always true. Will always be true. ;)
HB.
Was reading about this today. Has anyone used it? Any thoughts? I downloaded it but it doesn't seem to want to work.
If it does what it says on the tin it looks like it could be a useful thing to have.Be careful, this app request access to Identity, CallerID, Call information, etc. Totally NOT needed for the offered functionality (only maybe GPS location seems fair) and normally this means an APP you should avoid, because it has other intentions then offer you something! (interesting way to collect information of mongers and blackmail them.).
Which by the way is true. Was always true. Will always be true. ;).OMG Really things like that do beautiful girls in non AO Clubs. Can't believe this. LOL.
Serious, true is on the other side you'll almost never find a beautiful young girl in a AO club. Saw only one two years ago Yana at DVR. The complete Aldi Dietzenbach crew is for me No Go and that includes Alice and Michaela and other "optic highlights" LOL in your german board.
Hessen Bub
01-22-15, 20:23
The complete Aldi Dietzenbach crew is for me No Go and that includes Alice and Michaela and other "optic highlights" LOL in your german board.Who cares? To each his own. Don't visit. Stay at Oase or Mainhattan. Pay 200 EUR for what costs 30 at Dietzenbach. Tastes may vary, ever heard about that? I don't think I ever found one of YOUR favorites attractive. But do I tell the world they are ugly?
Michaela and Alice would be able to male money at a bigger club as well. Most of the other girls probably won't. Different offer. Different clientele.
HB.
Craiova,
I've posted a couple of days ago about some exaggerations from posters on Freiercafe. I don't know or I don't remember about Alice and Michaela in Dietzenbach. But what HB says is fair and correct.
Rosa, who worked in AO clubs Venus, Verena, Arabella and maybe Alina, would have been the best looking girl or among the best ones in ANY FKK. The same works for Arabella's Elena of about 1 year ago. Many other ones could work or could have worked somewhere else, but in AO clubs they made more money because they were prittier than other ones. Some have worked in major normal FKKs and moved to AO ones because they passed from 4-5 rooms per day to some 20.
I've been to major clubs, I've seen also unfuckable or ugly women, whom I wouldn't have chosen in Venus.
Please, tell me how would you rank about 60 years old siliconed italian Silvana in World, I don't know if she's still there, but you can't help knowing her.
With the money you invest for an AO session with a piece of wood in World or Oase, surely better looking but not necessary always, I have a couple of hot days with a few girls pleasing me much more. If I'm unsatisfied, I will have to cry on 30 euros and quickly get other girls who will cater for my needs and make me forget the unlucky choice. If you are unsatisfied, you will cry on some 200 euros (I only count 70 entrance, 50 for 30 minutes + 50-100 for AO, I don't count extras for CIM, CIP, maybe DFK, etc.) and risk every time the same shit. I know that in the end of the day I will go out satisfied, if not happy, and that the following day will likely please me too, and normally I don't spend more than 150-180 a day, often even less, usually 120, all included. You may never come out happy and you may spend fortunes hunting satisfaction.
Probably a girl alone from Oase is better looking than all the girls at Arabella put together, but one girl alone from Arabella will probably give you a better service than all Oase girls put together. For much less!
Probably a girl alone from Oase is better looking than all the girls at Arabella put together, but one girl alone from Arabella will probably give you a better service than all Oase girls put together. For much less!I don't think so. The point is that Arabella is cheaper any you will not get any service for 30€ at Oase.
If you are willing to pay the standard price for all the service, which is included in Arabella, you will have a good chance to receive the same service quality in any club.
BTW. : In my opinion 30€ for all inclusive service is not a fair price (but why should we care the people building our iPhone and sewing our clothes make even less money). I don't understand why cute girls should work there.
Plenty of RTC girls have made the switch from RTC to normal (and back). Saw two ex rtc girls in normal clubs, just last week. Raissa of Arabella for instance is now in a regular place (no, I won't tell you where). Not doing AO, but still being one of the better lookers and earners. Although I wonder if she's left with as much as she was in Freude or Arabella.
Banana Boi
01-22-15, 23:41
tell me how would you rank about 60 years old siliconed italian Silvana in World, I don't know if she's still there, but you can't help knowing her.OMG she's still there? My buddy is over 50 and was disgusted she asked him. He turns to me and says "Just because I'm old doesn't mean I want an old hag!"
I've seen buffed guys less than half her age with her. One can only assume she has sex with them for free.
Hello friends,
I arrived on the 2nd of Jan not expecting glorified line-ups at the FKKs. I planned on an 8 day fest but johnny boy was somewhat upset with the quality compared to what he's used to. Rented a car and stayed at various hotels along the way. Have been to FKKs for 5 years on and off so not really a newbie but wanted to check out more than a couple places. Plan took me from Fra to Duss to Koln and back to Fra. My ratings are out of 10. Withdrew from the ATM and got it going:
Jan 2 (Friday).
Sharks.
My first time here. I though the layout was ok but nothing special. The bar in the middle is a little uncomfortable for me with all the bright lights. Got here same day I arrived at around 7 PM. There were 15 girls. Later it was maybe 25-30.
Aphrodite, greek / rom, tall thin with beautiful solid prominent ass (that caught my attention), tan smooth skin, so-so face, BBBJ, 69, DATO and DATY in 69 for at least 10 min, she said DFK in 1 hour so I just went for the half, had fun in diff positions but loved the ASS. 8 service, 7. 5 body.
Gratzalia (or similar), rom, early 20's, colored eyes, dark hair, very bright red lipstick on, fucked her soft but she got real horny during DATY and started fingering herself while I fucked her, no DFK, 7 body, 7 service.
Left at 12:30, not busy and not many options, not very impressed with the lineup in terms of quality so my cock was not up for more.
Jan 3 (Sat)
Oase
I have been here 2 years ago so the place and restaurant looked better to me, food still sucks though which is a shame. Well first of all gentlemen, let me say that the lineup blew Sharks. Oase girls were simply much hotter (no ifs and buts).
Simona, rom, early 20s, pierced under the lower lip on the side, daty, bbbj, lfk, nice thin body, her friend Tina said she didn't kiss so i left her. Simona told me that the guy was taking Tina to the room and saw her and changed his mind before going to the room. The guy just left because Tina got into an argument with him. I wonder if he talked to management or not. Anyways, she was 8 looks, 7 service.
Victoria, polish, milf blonde but firm body, great bbbj but i was too tired (dont know why) and my cock got soft so i couldnt fuck. She did a sloppy bbbj which was a little toothy but to no avail so we stopped.
Veronica after 2 hours, now i was hard, russian blonde, nice firm body, licked her pussy with nice bbbj and dfk so I came in her wet pussy, 6 body, 8 service
Jan 4
Was supposed to go to World but was too tired so skipped it.
Jan 5
ACA
Reached at 2 PM. The lineup looked nice with a variety (not all seemed rom)
Martha, brazilian milf with fake tits, 6 looks, service 6 which is just ok, i just wanted to try a brazilian but nothing great.
Sandra, innocent looking polish, 5 looks, 7 service, dock got weak again. At that point I was annoyed even though I had a break the night before. I don't know what it was and I was not drinking either. Maybe jet lag.
Jan 6
Did nothing, stayed at hotel.
Jan 7
ACA again.
Emma, tall rom upstairs, nice dt bbbj, 6 looks, 7 service, she was trying to sell me a 3sum with her macedonian milf friend that is upstairs at ACA too but i rejected. By the way, how is that macedonian (milf, chubby)?
Paris, all I have to say is that this was the best fuck of the whole trip, she is very thin with broad shoulders like a model, romanian, has the nicest pair of upright natural tits, 9 looks for me, 9 service, very passionate with dfk, bbbj, and tight pussy. Only negative is teeth. Other than that, she is great.
There were other girls at ACA that looked hot but I keep on fucking it up since i dont feel comfortable going up to them in the middle and walk up to them to the sofa. I just dont do it. It sucks because i would like to fuck more but the no approach policy is fucking it up for me. There was the rom girl with tatoos behind her tighs who is hot (she striipped on that soft song for the 2 times i was there, whats her name?, she comes in early evening with her friend who is also hot. How is their service?) Also the fake titted girl who sits next to the bar where the rooms are who looks german, she looks hot, whats her name and hows her service?
So finally i left at 2 am.
Jan 8
Finca Erotica
Got in around 7 pm feeling tired. Don't really understand why i didn't have much energy during this trip even though i was looking forward to it.
Was really disappointed with the line-up. I banged 1 girl up, dick went down, was not really into it and left after 3 hours.
My trip was probably during a bad time but i have work so I am stuck. I will try coming back. I really didn't see the silicone babes i was hoping to bang. Maybe next time.
I really didn't see the silicone babes i was hoping to bang. Maybe next time.Hello Luv Fake.
Thank you for the report. Good work with that.
For silicone babes, the suggestion would be to go to FKK Palace in Frankfurt which has a preponderance of ladies with silicone tits and in some cases quite outlandish in size.
OMG she's still there? My buddy is over 50 and was disgusted she asked him. He turns to me and says "Just because I'm old doesn't mean I want an old hag!"
I've seen buffed guys less than half her age with her. One can only assume she has sex with them for free.She was in Sharks yesterday. Must be her.
Kimino.
Christian G
01-23-15, 10:44
Please, tell me how would you rank about 60 years old siliconed italian Silvana in World, I don't know if she's still there, but you can't help knowing her.
I think she work in FKK Sharks now.
Plenty of RTC girls have made the switch from RTC to normal (and back). Saw two ex rtc girls in normal clubs, just last week. Raissa of Arabella for instance is now in a regular place (no, I won't tell you where). Not doing AO, but still being one of the better lookers and earners. Although I wonder if she's left with as much as she was in Freude or Arabella.I have, also recently, come across girls who didn't want to be known where they were after they had left their previous clubs. One escaped "boyfriend", one said to her club she would go home, etc. In fact, even when I posted line ups, I didn't specify X ex Y in Z. Anyway I told them that their secret couldn't last long, since customers may write in forums, not knowing that the girls didn't want to be found. One disappeared shortly after, one I didn't see on my following visit, etc. I don't know if that works also for Raissa. Anyway somebody somewhere has posted where she is.
Brainfuck,
I wrote why, because they make more money. There are less competitors, in quantity and specially in quality. There have been girls to whom any customer ringing the bell would go. Also, I think that the service is better because small clubs are more "familiar". Big clubs are assembly lines, girls won't waste time on the couch having so many customers around, 2 quick words, zimmer or not. When they see you are a cheap guy asking for just 30 minutes without extras, not interested in upselling and stuff like that, they will give you shit in the room.
Even if I'm not experienced in regular FKKs, I see I have hit the target mentioning Silvana, LOL! May I ask those who saw her at Shark whether she walks or she goes around with a stick? Ahahah
OldAsiaHand
01-23-15, 18:08
I have been to the Frankfurt clubs several times but never in Dusseldorf. My favorite clubs in Frankfurt are OASE; Mainhatten and Sharks in that order.
I will be in Dusseldorf for a trade show. I have read the DV thread and the reports are not so great. The Oceans link does not work. I am not familiar with the area so I cannot tell if any of the other clubs are nearby. I am staying near the fair.
Can anyone give me some advice? Thanks.
OAH.
Banana Boi
01-23-15, 18:16
If it's a Friday or Saturday night and you're restricting yourself only to Dusseldorf clubs, go to Magnum (for some reason the Magnum thread is in User Blog). If you don't mind paying a little for taxi, Living Room would be the best lineup fairly close to Dusseldorf.
If you have a car, check out the threads for Acapulco, Goldentime, Samya, Living Room. YinYang and Sixsens are good too but unfortunately they don't have threads on this board.
FKK Oceans is very close to the fair, max 5 minutes by car.
I visited Oceans on a Sunday in the beginning of January (I even wrote a report about, but it's a German edition). The place itself is great concerning facilities e. G. - nothing to complain.
I met a guy with whom to talk about the place and a German girl joining us. Attention: breakfast is available for free (you can't compare it with what you get in Samya e. G, where you have a nice selection and also fresh prepaired dishes on eggs' base) until 2-3 pm.
For all other dishes prepared in the kitchen you've to pay extra (10-25 Euro). The guy blamed all over the day the fact that in other places of the theüsseldor / Cologne region food doesn't have to be paid extra. Nevertheless he tried the steak with potato wedges and some vegetables. Great smell, excellent preparation, excellent quality and also good volume. 25 Euro.
All over the afternoon hours until 7 pm, when I left the club, the number of girls was rather decent (20 at 7 pm). I met a Filipina living since years in Germany and working sometimes in Oceans in order to combine family and additional revenues. Great PST without end, superbe one hour session on the room (I normally never do an hour when not knowing a girl / ok, she's a woman of 31 years).
A really nice place, but not a must.
For all other dishes prepared in the kitchen you've to pay extra (10-25 Euro).Meanwhile one lunch is included in the entry fee.
PussyLiccker
01-24-15, 03:14
If it's a Friday or Saturday night and you're restricting yourself only to Dusseldorf clubs, go to Magnum (for some reason the Magnum thread is in User Blog). If you don't mind paying a little for taxi, Living Room would be the best lineup fairly close to Dusseldorf.
S-bahn from hbf is available to the Ikea stop near LR.
There were other girls at ACA that looked hot but I keep on fucking it up since i dont feel comfortable going up to them in the middle and walk up to them to the sofa. I just dont do it. It sucks because i would like to fuck more but the no approach policy is fucking it up for me. There was the rom girl with tatoos behind her tighs who is hot (she striipped on that soft song for the 2 times i was there, whats her name?, she comes in early evening with her friend who is also hot. How is their service?) Also the fake titted girl who sits next to the bar where the rooms are who looks german, she looks hot, whats her name and hows her service? The non-approach is just the rules. Possibly a bit overwhelming for some, no need to think so much of it. Just working girls, and not like they are going to reject taking your Euros. LOL. I personally like the setup there as I can see all the girls, and they are usually freed up, and I'm not fending off girls I don't intent to take. Once you come up to them, they change.
Who cares? To each his own. Don't visit. Stay at Oase or Mainhattan. Pay 200 EUR for what costs 30 at Dietzenbach. Tastes may vary, ever heard about that? I don't think I ever found one of YOUR favorites attractive. But do I tell the world they are ugly?
Michaela and Alice would be able to male money at a bigger club as well. Most of the other girls probably won't. Different offer. Different clientele.
Keep cool. And right I don't go anymore to Dietzenbach, was last time there 2013. Have I said Alice or Michaela are ugly? No Michaela is a nice thing but sorry her (room) behaviour is shit. Alice I've never tried she's not ugly but not my type.
When you found my favs aren't attractive no problem your taste. Means nothing to me. And everybody can enjoy this club in Dietzenbach I have no problem with this. Everybody should get what he like and also important what he can afford.
But what really bothers me is this bullshit "pay 200 euro what you get in Dietzenbach for 30 euro". This is total bullshit. You should accept that also in pay sex "money rules the world". But what you believe is saying at Dietzenbach you get a gourmet meal for the price at McD or BK. Or other example your opinion says at Dietzenbach you can buy an Audi A6 or a BMW 5 er or a Mercedes E class for the price of a VW Polo or Opel Corsa.
You really think pay sex world is in this way?
Seva Lurker
01-24-15, 15:30
I will be in Germany for a couple of weeks sometime in mid-summer. I have spent several hours searching for places to visit and the FKK clubs seem to offer the best return on investment.
I can figure out where to visit pretty much on my own, though any recommendations would be appreciated. I'll be in the Frankfurt area for two days, probably staying near the airport, and then near Ulm for the remainder of the trip. I do not believe there is much going on around Ulm, but I'd like to use my Frankfurt time well.
So now for the simple question. I have seen the letters AO and RO used routinely. I think I have found the 'AO' meaning (alles ohne). My searching so far has given me nothing that would help me understand "RO". In some uses I think it is possibly the letter designation for Romania (as in a girls country of origin). Is there another meaning that I haven't found?
Please do not let my relatively low post count reflect. I do not travel outside the US much anymore. I have over 1,100 posts in the USASG. I have mongered on both the USASG and ISG long enough that many of my posts are 'grandfathered' from before Jackson stopped counting posts from the two boards together.
Hessen Bub
01-24-15, 15:36
But what really bothers me is this bullshit "pay 200 euro what you get in Dietzenbach for 30 euro". This is total bullshit. You should accept that also in pay sex "money rules the world". But what you believe is saying at Dietzenbach you get a gourmet meal for the price at McD or BK. Or other example your opinion says at Dietzenbach you can buy an Audi A6 or a BMW 5 er or a Mercedes E class for the price of a VW Polo or Opel Corsa.
You really think pay sex world is in this way?You really never experienced that it does? That money can't buy everything? It is not BS that sometimes you get more for 50 EUR (or 30 EUR at Dietzenbach) than a 200 or more EUR session can buy. I don't THINK it is that way, I KNOW it is. If you don't, you are missing something. ;)
BTW: Michaela's room behavior can be great, if you click with her. A lot of guys do not.
HB.
To echo HB's comments, money really isn't everything. I've had some of my "greatest" days in the 30 euro RTC clubs. I've had great fun with Michaella in Dietzenbach, nit just in the room, but also for hours afterwards just being crazy in the couch. Also saw her in a regular club once and accordingly spent most of the day with her 9 and more patient service in the room). Besides her I had similar experiences in Venus with Michaela, Elena and Sara (now Andrea in Freude), Kitty in Grimberg, Ana and Narcisa in Verena and so on. That's not to say you don't have crap sessions as well, but a lot is possible for 30 euros as well.
Last week I was in a bunch of clubs that still charge 75/80 for an hour and on average it was a lot better than the many 100 an hour clubs there are nowadays. To be specific: everyone offered DFK and fingering, two of them also in the back door. Money isn't everything and sometimes too much spending in a club just decreases the general standards (see GT, Oase, Palace).
PussyLiccker
01-24-15, 16:49
I attend some clubs that wouldn't be a top choice for most here, and at times I find some great sessions for less. I've also had sessions with girls less than the asking price, which puts icing on the cake. Yes, some girls scales in services with money, and some just provide without such incentives which I prefer. A happy lesson from PHG from while ago. I've heard of demanding punters, but girls can be demanding too. In this case money wise. Some girls, probably keep pushing it if they see your wallet opening up a bit more.
Of course money isn't everything but not unimportant to get really good pay sex. LOL Of course respectful behaviour with the girls is also important. Its helps when chemestry fit and you have a connection to the girl.
And you still can found a hidden diamond in almost every club. And of course you can waste a lot of money for getting allways nothing and on the other hand you get somewhere for 50 euro a honeymoon night.
But guys be realistic don't declare the exception to the standard. No top class girl will work at Dietzenbach or in a other cheap AO club. In general the girls, her boyfriend, pimp, manager. Take care that the girl makes the most money that possible. And don't come on with the opinion oh at this cheap club they makes 20 rooms every day. Fine great means max. 600 euro. Don't know what ghe club get. And for sure a pussy that hurts every second day.
No guys No top class girl will do that. And also the higher health risk when having AO with almost every client.
Top class girls (looking / behaviour / charm / excellent service.) get still more money with less effort and risk. Top class FKK club girls still have sometimes easy money 1. 500 or 2. 000 euro overnights.
Of course most guys enjoys Dietzenbach. In your german board almost about every girl there is a report and two times every week you get a complete line up list for Dietzenbach. That is almost more reporting than for other clubs. So far ok on streets you find also more high volumue cars than premium cars. But no one would insist you have the same features or they know a car dealer selling this premium car in the price range of high volume cars.
So be realistic guys enjoy your reliable car with gives you a good service at Dietzenbach but don't dream you are driving a Porsche there. LOL.
The pay sex follows in general simple business rules same like almost all other business areas. So you will never get a Porsche for a Dietzenbach price.
Sirioja,
Risking AO has nothing to do with being ugly or beautiful. You are worried for the pretty ones but you don't care about the less pretty. A sort of discrimination.
Anyway, I'm often remarking how the look of the girls is generally low, and it is surely true that some of them can work only in AO clubs, some are unpresentable even there, but there are fuckable girls and sometimes out-of-place ones who are a gift, specially considering what you get and, most of all, for how much. They go in those clubs because they can make much more money, so it is intentional, not out of desperation or out of realizing that they are not models.
I have described a sad visit to a "normal" club, last week, ugly girls can be found everywhere.
With all the respect, I think your point is quite disagreeable.
P.S. Don't tell me you are not aware of girls doing AO in non-AO clubs. Also, beautiful ones!Sorry if my English not so good, I wanted to mean no girls, top model or not very pretty, should have to accept sex without condom to make money.
But stars in FKK clubs make 10/15 meetings and 1000€ each day, on the other hand some girls have to accept to work without condom to make money.
Stars are often pretty girls.
What about girls in cheap club or AO? But I m sure if they could make money with condom, they won't take so much risks.
I never ask for without condom to a prostitute, people who know me say I m crazy but not like this.
Hessen Bub
01-24-15, 17:38
I'm out. The discussion doesn't lead anywhere.
I'm sure you can have better sex for 50 than for 500 Euro. Depending on the individual definition of great good sex. Top girl and top Euros doesn't mean top Service. If you want more than just technically good sex.
HB.
I'm out. The discussion doesn't lead anywhere.When I first started posting on these boards 9 years ago, there is one rule I made for myself that I have not broken in all of that time. Unless I'm talking about someplace that has set prices for services rendered (or some very well-established prices based on "past practice" you might say), I do not get into discussions or debates about prices or what somebody else should be paying in order to get a quality fuck. It's just a lose-lose proposition all the way around. In the end, a guy is going to pay what a guy wants to pay, and there's nothing that anybody else can do about it. Except spending time arguing and complaining about it, which is something I don't wish to spend my time doing.
Makes no sense when guys think FKK club girls are not working for money there. No they are in club waiting for a guy giving them a nice time and good sex and money doesn't care. LOL LOL LOL.
And I wasn't talking about technically good sex I'm talking about sex like with a girlfriend with no limits that the club girl really wants to please you and you can do with her whatever you want. And this under the condition that your Club girl is more than 30 years younger and according your taste very beautiful and smart.
So a smart girl will do this only for (more) money otherwise we don't talk about pay sex. And just look at the motto at ISG. "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac. " and I'm sorry to say not your charme. LOL.
Hessen Bub
01-24-15, 18:21
Deleted. Thanks. HB
Craiova,
I can agree with you that it is very difficult to find a "porsche" in Grimberg, if by that we mean a very beautiful girl. If by "porsche" we mean great service, for a (let's say it) shameful price, without even counting AO, then you may find many, and many mercedes and bmw. Opel will be really a few. I still think, out of my little experience in major clubs but also out of logic, that beauty and treatment are inversely proportional, fact worsened by the money. If a girl doesn't click with you, it will not be 100 or 1000 euros to make her do it, and money will not cover the gap.
In these days there is a friend of mine in World and Oase, barebacking without surcharge girls he's been taking since a couple of years (= gave them lots of money). Those 2-3 girls are doing it because he goes always and only with them, not because they clicked. Since he takes them for hours, they don't mind the 50-100 they would ask someone else. I remember one of them, over average RTC level, but nothing special. Still, I find disagreeable the point about barebacking if a girl is more or less beautiful: even stunners take risks, since, as you say, they work for money. Extras mean money, so they will take them, it's just a matter of price.
Without making names, I once, recently, was quoted in Freude39 (AO club!) 150 extra for making AO by a non-AO girl! And she wasn't what you would call a stunner.
Talking about principles, I agree that a 18 year old girl shouldn't click too much for a man 3 times her age but it can happen, I don't think it will be the money that will make her put more passion. For more money she may allow anal, CIM, fingering, etc. , but money can't buy everything. I'm not declaring the exception to the standard, I'm talking of the possibility, which does exist.
Top class girls shouldn't work in any FKK either, just on internet for 1-2-3 thousands euros a meeting, a day, since, if you make such a difference, it will not be a matter of 30 euros against 50 for 30 minutes plus the extras. It's true that the more AO you practice the more you risk, but a rich guy could still pass out some diseases, his banknotes will not work as a protection against them. It's either you do it or you don't.
Talking about RTCs, every token a girl gets is 30 euros, even if you buy one room only in F39 40 euros, she will still get 30 and 10 will be kept by the club. If you pay 60 to repeat a girl in another RTC club, it will be 30 each. You must deduct 50 a day, 30 for entrance and 20 for taxes.
Anyway, anybody is entitled to their own opinion, so let's all keep our own.
Seva Lurker,
as far as I know RO stands for Romania(n)
Seva Lurker
01-24-15, 21:52
Seva Lurker,
as far as I know RO stands for Romania(n)EG, thank you. That is sort of what I had figured, but one post about a specific FKK listed nearly every girl working that day as "(RO)" and I really couldn't believe all the girls were one nationality. So made me wonder if there might have been another meaning as well.
Hessen Bub
01-24-15, 22:18
EG, thank you. That is sort of what I had figured, but one post about a specific FKK listed nearly every girl working that day as "(RO)" and I really couldn't believe all the girls were one nationality. So made me wonder if there might have been another meaning as well.There are clubs with above 90% Romanians. So depending on the guy posting the line-up this may result in RO girls only.
HB.
EG, thank you. That is sort of what I had figured, but one post about a specific FKK listed nearly every girl working that day as "(RO)" and I really couldn't believe all the girls were one nationality. So made me wonder if there might have been another meaning as well.Some reports may use RO to denote Reverse Oral or DATY as it is known here.
Hessen Bub
01-24-15, 23:53
Some reports may use RO to denote Reverse Oral or DATY as it is known here.Not in a lineup post behind every girl's name.
HB.
Seva Lurker
01-25-15, 15:05
Hey guys, thanks for the help. Both usages make sense and I recall seeing "RO" used both ways, as a country and a sexual alternative.
Citizen Kane
01-25-15, 15:34
Hey guys, thanks for the help. Both usages make sense and I recall seeing "RO" used both ways, as a country and a sexual alternative.And you're definitely sure that 'Reverse Oral' doesn't mean Anal?
Hey guys, thanks for the help. Both usages make sense and I recall seeing "RO" used both ways, as a country and a sexual alternative.There are the odd abbreviations with two accepted meanings and context should make it more obvious. GF can be either girlfriend or "girl friendly" for a Hotel in Thailand for example. The 2nd meaning is probably not relevant in an FKK forum.
In this forum RO or Ro is the common abbrev for Romania. Its not wise to use it for other obscure purposes. DATY is the well known accepted abbreviation for "pussy licking". "Reverse Oral" is a stupid term for me, since its not at all obvious what it should mean, and not on the official list. We should use abbreviations that will be generally understood, or follow the rule that first usage in a report should be accompanied by and explanation of the meaning. I don't recall seeing it (Reverse Oral), or forget. Its not a great idea to use country specific words in a German FKK forum either, if you want to be understood. E. g. American word "poontang" is meaningless for many non-americans. I don't believe it even appears on American TV. Some guys used the abbreviation PIs to mean the Philippine Islands. This was completely unknown to me, someone who had never been there. I don't use any slang from my country consciously.
Abbreviations used should be, on the ISGs official Abbrev list, be standard international abbreviations, e.g. 2 and 3 character Country designations, or be at least internationally well known, like WHO and UNICEF.
Otherwise posters can use strange terms to make their posts much harder to understand if they wish to obfuscate. Like those who want to refer to FKK World as the "House of the Kaunzbergs" (if I spelled it right - possibly not) just to be "smart".
I am not the official police. I just give my thoughts on what makes posts clear and easy to understand. I also am not keen on simple sarcasm where poster replies with exact opposite of true answer to an innocent question, just to put some poor newbie on the wrong path. You can't trust any of the posts of guys that do that, to have any basis in reality at all.
Hessen Bub
01-25-15, 16:53
DATY is the most common expression here for licking a girl's pussy.
http://de.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Reverse+Oral+.
HB.
Will arrive to Amsterdam on a Saturday for meetings that will start on Monday.
I will have access to a car and so. Can look for something within a few hours distance.
In the past I visited a few nice establishment in Frankfurt areas (Palace, Mainhaten, Oase etc.).
But never been to a northern FKK.
What would you recommend?
- Saving time and driving to one of the places in the Dusseldorf area or...
- To invest an additional 60-90 minutes drive to the Frankfurt area?
Thanks,
WG
Banana Boi
01-30-15, 21:19
For the most part, NRW clubs are not full nude so if that's important to you drive to FRA.
Coming from Amsterdam, GoldenTime (GT) would be the no brainer near the Netherlands border. About 100 km east or SE of GT are Acapulco and Samya, respectively. Those would be my 3 main NRW club recommendations to a first timer in NRW. In general, the NRW clubs are less sharky and imo prettier girls but we all have different taste in women.
I'm not sure how fast you drive or care about all the speed limit signs but DUSS to FRA is definitely more than a 60-90 minute drive. Even the 2 closest main clubs in each area, Samya and World, are 180 km apart, and both are about 25 minutes to the main city.
Hi,
Apologies for a duplicate post, but this seems like a general question. I am thinking of visiting Germany in August, and August is supposed to be a vacation month in Germany all Europe actually) - most Germans will be away. Is it a slow month at FKK clubs? Are most girls gone as well? Is the selection worse than usual?
Thanks
PussyLiccker
01-31-15, 19:55
For the most part, NRW clubs are not full nude so if that's important to you drive to FRA.
Coming from Amsterdam, GoldenTime (GT) would be the no brainer near the Netherlands border. About 100 km east or SE of GT are Acapulco and Samya, respectively. Those would be my 3 main NRW club recommendations to a first timer in NRW. In general, the NRW clubs are less sharky and imo prettier girls but we all have different taste in women.
I'm not sure how fast you drive or care about all the speed limit signs but DUSS to FRA is definitely more than a 60-90 minute drive. Even the 2 closest main clubs in each area, Samya and World, are 180 km apart, and both are about 25 minutes to the main city.I say Ying Yang is a good option also.
I say Ying Yang is a good option also.The name is YinYang: http://www.yinyang.nl.
And yes, it's a good option.
Guys,
Me and a friend are going to a FKK tomorrow for the first time. Probably in Germany even though we are open about Holland.
What is your recommendation for the best club to go tomorrow with the best selection of girls and fine prices for a fuck (50 euros?) close to Belgium (lets say no further than 200 kms from our border).
Thanks!
Me and a friend are going to a FKK tomorrow for the first time. Probably in Germany even though we are open about Holland.If you do really mean "FKK" (=the girls are naked) then there is nearly no option. Otherwise I would recommend Golden Time.
Hi,
Apologies for a duplicate post, but this seems like a general question. I am thinking of visiting Germany in August, and August is supposed to be a vacation month in Germany all Europe actually) - most Germans will be away. Is it a slow month at FKK clubs? Are most girls gone as well? Is the selection worse than usual?
ThanksI did an August trip many years back, its not as bad as hitting the clubs on Orthodox Easter when many Romanians go home. Clubs are much warmer inside with the warmer weather, service can suffer if the rooms are sweltering. I'm considering a trip before Orthodox Easter next year which would put August as the next best option.
PussyLiccker
02-10-15, 02:29
Does anybody have details on topping up a T-mobile (says Deutsche Telecom) sim online outside of Germany? The sim lets you do small amount of data with it for several days.
UltraHappy
02-10-15, 03:22
Does anybody have details on topping up a T-mobile (say deutch Telecom) sim online outside of Germany? The sim lets you do small amount of data with it for several days.I asked about this in a Deutche Telekom store once. They told me that it was not possible outside of Germany. If anyone knows any differently, I would welcome any other feedback.
I'm passing through Frankfurt this coming Friday and I plan to spend the night in an FKK. I'll be sure to report on my experiences as always, but after reading recent reports I'm a bit unsure of which club to visit. My layover is just one night so I don't have time to hit more than one club.
I've always really liked Mainhatten, but the recent reports aren't so stellar. I've only been to Oase once and I liked the experience, and I'm also seriously considering Sharks.
I'm skipping a hotel altogether and I plan to be at the FKK from lunchtime until closing time the next morning. I'll probably go for 4-5 sessions so I need a bit of a selection to choose from, although if I find a really good girl I'm not against a repeat session.
My preferences lean towards the thin / model type / girl next door, but I also like tattooed and alternative girls.
I'm passing through Frankfurt this coming Friday and I plan to spend the night in an FKK. I'll be sure to report on my experiences as always, but after reading recent reports I'm a bit unsure of which club to visit. My layover is just one night so I don't have time to hit more than one club.On this Friday starts in Frankurt the Ambiente fair trade. This is so far good news for you because that mean in the Frankfurt clubs will be more girls than usual, this fair trade is one of the bigger ones. Maybe at Mainhattan around 70 girls, at Oase around 100 or even slightly more girls and at Sharks maybe almost 80 girls. Bad news is that means that in the evening between 8 pm and 2 am It will be also crowded with many guys at least at Oase and Mainhattan.
Hmm which club recommend? Every of my three favorite Frankfurt FKK clubs Oase, Mainhattan and Sharks has for me some advantage and some drawbacks. Line up during dayshift in all clubs till 5 pm for me weak. But in the evening line up should be in every of this clubs quite good. With one of this clubs you can't do nothing wrong next Friday, so it's your choice which one.
On this Friday starts in Frankurt the Ambiente fair trade.What is it and for how long time?
On this Friday starts in Frankurt the Ambiente fair trade. This is so far good news for you because that mean in the Frankfurt clubs will be more girls than usual, this fair trade is one of the bigger ones. Maybe at Mainhattan around 70 girls, at Oase around 100 or even slightly more girls and at Sharks maybe almost 80 girls. Bad news is that means that in the evening between 8 pm and 2 am It will be also crowded with many guys at least at Oase and Mainhattan.
Hmm which club recommend? Every of my three favorite Frankfurt FKK clubs Oase, Mainhattan and Sharks has for me some advantage and some drawbacks. Line up during dayshift in all clubs till 5 pm for me weak. But in the evening line up should be in every of this clubs quite good. With one of this clubs you can't do nothing wrong next Friday, so it's your choice which one.Sharks. As a Frankfurt FKK? No longer located in Darmstadt?
I am not sure that this will help him for a short stop FRA to advise about a club located in the industrial area Darmstadt. So hard to get there without an expensive cab ride. But these are only my two cents to the question.
Sharks. As a Frankfurt FKK? No longer located in Darmstadt?
I am not sure that this will help him for a short stop FRA to advise about a club located in the industrial area Darmstadt. So hard to get there without an expensive cab ride. But these are only my two cents to the question.Sorry from Frankfurt Airport you are in around 25 minutes at Sharks by taxi. Due to rush hour and traffic jams it takes sometimes more time going from Frankfurt airport to Mainhattan or even Oase. So a difference of few minutes reaching a club shouldn't really be an issue for chosing a club. And if you use from airport the Heag Airliner to Darmstadt or from the city the railway it isn't so much more expensive.
BTW I add even FKK World to the Frankfurt FKK clubs. Takes me around 15 minutes more going to World instead of Oase by car.
Just my two cents.
PussyLiccker
02-10-15, 22:48
I'm passing through Frankfurt this coming Friday and I plan to spend the night in an FKK. I'll be sure to report on my experiences as always, but after reading recent reports I'm a bit unsure of which club to visit. My layover is just one night so I don't have time to hit more than one club.
On this Friday starts in Frankurt the Ambiente fair trade. This is so far good news for you because that mean in the Frankfurt clubs will be more girls than usual, this fair trade is one of the bigger ones. Maybe at Mainhattan around 70 girls, at Oase around 100 or even slightly more girls and at Sharks maybe almost 80 girls. Bad news is that means that in the evening between 8 pm and 2 am It will be also crowded with many guys at least at Oase and Mainhattan.
Hmm which club recommend? Every of my three favorite Frankfurt FKK clubs Oase, Mainhattan and Sharks has for me some advantage and some drawbacks. Line up during dayshift in all clubs till 5 pm for me weak. But in the evening line up should be in every of this clubs quite good. With one of this clubs you can't do nothing wrong next Friday, so it's your choice which one.The reports are people talking about their favorites missing which has a bit of weight on visits. That doesn't mean it would be a bad visit for another punter.
@ Craiova. Has Ambiente drawn lots of girls in the past? It says, "consumer goods trade fair, which boasts a globally unrivalled range of products in the Dining, Giving and Living areas. " It's not a automotive fair that draws lots of men, and curious if this is a fair that girls consider. Well, it's not the sewing fair which draws the ladies.
I recall the FKK Palace during Auto fair, and quite a bit of crowd with 150 girls present. Looking at GMaps, Palace is 9 min by car from the Messe building. Mainhattan, Oase, and Sharks further out.
I'm curious which clubs would draw the most crowds and least.
Also Saturday is Valentine's day, and would that have affect on the clubs?
Forgive me, I should have said Frankfurt region. If I insulted anyone from Darmstadt I apologize. My layover is from Friday early morning through Saturday afternoon. So while I don't want to spend a fortune on a taxi, I have plenty of time to get to Darmstadt. If I go to Oase or Sharks I'll likely take a train or bus.
I also plan to spend the entire night in the club, so if it's busy during prime evening hours and I need to wait for a girl or a room, that's not a huge problem. Thanks for the tips so far. I actually forgot to check the messe schedule so maybe it's good news, I'd probably prefer a busy club to a dead one.
In the past, Mainhatten has really been my favorite, followed by Oase. Though admittedly I've only been to Oase once and so I became more familiar with Mainhatten. Of course Mainhatten is more convenient to get to on public transport. But.
I'm also doing another overnighter in a few weeks on a Thursday (not a messe day), so I'll have another shot. Still open to suggestions, but perhaps it would be a good idea to hit a smaller club on Friday during messe then Oase on the way home? But Thursday is dessous tag, which is a negative for me.
Sharks. As a Frankfurt FKK? No longer located in Darmstadt?
I am not sure that this will help him for a short stop FRA to advise about a club located in the industrial area Darmstadt. So hard to get there without an expensive cab ride. But these are only my two cents to the question.
Hessen Bub
02-10-15, 23:46
Ambiente does draw guys to the clubs. Automechanica and IAA also do. Buchmesse doesn't.
HB.
Forgive me, I should have said Frankfurt region. If I insulted anyone from Darmstadt I apologize. My layover is from Friday early morning through Saturday afternoon. So while I don't want to spend a fortune on a taxi, I have plenty of time to get to Darmstadt. If I go to Oase or Sharks I'll likely take a train or bus.Darmstadt is very quick from the Flughafen with taxe, much more quick than Oase I guess.
Ambiente does draw guys to the clubs. Automechanica and IAA also do. Buchmesse doesn't.
HB.The girls have told to me, Buchmesse last day they make much money.
PussyLiccker
02-11-15, 03:13
What is it and for how long time?It's a Messe that is being held in Frankfurt. Says over 4,700 exhibitors and around 144,000 trade visitors.
Opening times 2015.
13-16.2. 2015:9 am - 6 pm.
17.2. 2015: 9 am - 5 pm.
Looking back, there are posts of clubs being busy in those days.
From 2010 on the Oase thread:
Friday night, party at Oase plus Ambiente Messe - 130 - 140 girls.
Some girls talked about extending the upper floor across the area with the whirlpool and the massage. That could open up space for 20 additional room. We'll see.
HB
For the most part, NRW clubs are not full nude so if that's important to you drive to FRA.
Coming from Amsterdam, GoldenTime (GT) would be the no brainer near the Netherlands border. About 100 km east or SE of GT are Acapulco and Samya, respectively. Those would be my 3 main NRW club recommendations to a first timer in NRW. In general, the NRW clubs are less sharky and imo prettier girls but we all have different taste in women.
I'm not sure how fast you drive or care about all the speed limit signs but DUSS to FRA is definitely more than a 60-90 minute drive. Even the 2 closest main clubs in each area, Samya and World, are 180 km apart, and both are about 25 minutes to the main city.Thanks BB and PL.
Went to GT.
Report will be posted.
The only problem. Heavy smoke at the club! The main area smells like a cigarette factory.
By the way. Line up was very nice!
Any club that is better with regards to smoke free zones?
Cheers,
WG
Banana Boi
02-14-15, 00:01
Any club that is better with regards to smoke free zones?
Off the top of my head clubs in NRW are smoke free indoors except GT and Mondial.
Vito Corleone
02-14-15, 04:49
Off the top of my head clubs in NRW are smoke free indoors except GT and Mondial.Half of the main room in LR is smoke free.
BigBuddy69
02-14-15, 10:29
I think lr is not smoke free inside.
LR is some free around the bar, but the rest of the main area is the "designated smoking area". Samya is only smokefree untill 10 pm, none of the RTC clubs is smoke free and neither is Laluna.
Quite surprised nobody is mentioning or discussing the new german prostitution Law, which should be introduced within summer 2015, with possible major effects on mongering as it has been acknowledged in Germany for the last 13 years.
Even if the actual enforcement of the announced Kondomepflicht (which means only covered BJs will be allowed) is quite laughable, negative effects of this and other articles of the law (obligation of registration for club owners and working girls) are easily to be expected, with increase / confusion in pricing and decrease in quaility of the lineups as best case scenario.
Even if the actual enforcement of the announced Kondomepflicht (which means only covered BJs will be allowed) is quite laughable, negative effects of this and other articles of the law (obligation of registration for club owners and working girls) are easily to be expected, with increase / confusion in pricing and decrease in quaility of the lineups as best case scenario.Will this law apply to FKK's as well, or just other types of sex places.
Neurosynth
02-15-15, 01:46
There's some discussion in the more AO and Party Treff oriented German groups on this board.
There's some confusion whether the new law will require condoms for oral. Maybe it's limited to vaginal and anal. The thing about the law is that they can't prosecute the girl, just the guy. If that is the case then the only way they could catch guys would be to set up stings with fake (or real) prostitutes. That's not going to happen.
The result will be, IMHO, that just about everything available now will remain available, but it might cost a bit more, and the advertising will have to be subtle if present at all. The guys interested in AO will learn what to look for and share information.
Ultimately the law is posturing for the tongue clucking crowd, and won't help sex workers (the supposed goal) one bit.
Member #4319
02-16-15, 00:33
Hi guys,
Have been reading this forum with great interest. Have been once before to Munich where I went to an FKK club for a few hours (smaller one, can't remember the name. FKK smile I think. Not too far from the city centre). I'll be near Frankfurt next week and wanted to double check opinions on the top clubs I should check out? Probably have time for 2-3 clubs total. These are the ones that seem to be popular in the threads I've read:
1. FKK Mainhattan.
2. FKK Palace.
3. FKK Sharks.
4. FKK F35.
Does this sound about right? Is that the order that would be recommended for a first timer to Frankfurt? Have mongering experience mainly in the Far East.
Cheers,
JM
Kirk Lazarus
02-16-15, 06:20
Hi guys,
Have been reading this forum with great interest. Have been once before to Munich where I went to an FKK club for a few hours (smaller one, can't remember the name. FKK smile I think. Not too far from the city centre). I'll be near Frankfurt next week and wanted to double check opinions on the top clubs I should check out? Probably have time for 2-3 clubs total. These are the ones that seem to be popular in the threads I've read:
1. FKK Mainhattan.
2. FKK Palace.
3. FKK Sharks.
4. FKK F35.
Does this sound about right? Is that the order that would be recommended for a first timer to Frankfurt? Have mongering experience mainly in the Far East.
Cheers,
JMI would suggest starting at Sharks first. From recent reviews, it seems like the Sharks line-up is near the top. Most of the girls are not pushy either and most will not upsell.
If you are into slicone fake boobs, go to Palace. It's easiest to get to if you are staying in FRA. Be aware that at Palace, more girls will will try to upsell for kissing and other services. They are pretty aggressive here, but if you are firm and stand your ground, not a bad place to check out.
Mainhatten is the smallest of the between Sharks and Palace. Last autumn when I was at Mainhatten, the line up was not good. Because its a smaller club, it has a smaller line up.
I've never been to F35.
Banana Boi
02-16-15, 07:51
Jason, as an alternative you may want to try http://treff-188.de/ . FKK Oase is about 10 km closer to downtown Frankfurt than Sharks. Last review on F35 on this board was in 2005 so I assume your research info was on some other board.
As Kirk said, general consensus on this board is Oase and Sharks are better than Mainhattan and Palace. I realize you may be trying to save some cash on taxi or car rental but imo skip a few lunches and go to the better FKK. If not, over 100 posts on this board about how to take public transit to either club.
Hello everybody, this question comes up every year, but I don't get it.
Roman Catholic: Holy Saturday falls on April 4, 2015.
Orthodox Catholic: Holy Saturday falls on April 11,2015.
Reports earlier years say that around these dates there is a lack of girls in the clubs. Basically + a week in both directions. Is this true? Since most of the girls are Orthodox (could it be that the week April 12. To April 19. Is really slow? I have planned a trip that incude that week + some days, so it would help me plan my travel route if this is so. Nothing would be worse than getting into Sharks and Palace with a pocket full of money and with no girls in the clubs.
Hope someone can clearify this.
Citizen Kane
02-16-15, 21:41
Hello everybody, this question comes up every year, but I don't get it.
Roman Catholic: Holy Saturday falls on April 4, 2015.
Orthodox Catholic: Holy Saturday falls on April 11,2015.
Reports earlier years say that around these dates there is a lack of girls in the clubs. Basically + a week in both directions. Is this true? Since most of the girls are Orthodox (could it be that the week April 12. To April 19. Is really slow? I have planned a trip that incude that week + some days, so it would help me plan my travel route if this is so. Nothing would be worse than getting into Sharks and Palace with a pocket full of money and with no girls in the clubs.
Hope someone can clearify this.I would say a week in either direction at least. Easter is more important than Christmas in Romania and it is a bloody long drive from Germany so they can't really nip home for the weekend. Normally if they travel home it's for month or so and they normally do it in groups to split the driving up.
There will still be girls there and you will still have fun it's just the club won't be at full strength.
Banana Boi
02-17-15, 00:23
Easter is Sunday and Monday, April 12 and 13, which is earlier than normal. When Easter occurs closer to the end of April or early May (like 2016), the girls usually stay for May Day (national holiday) and possibly mother's and father's day as well. For this year I'm guessing a very few will come back as early as Wednesday, April 15, with many more by Wednesday, April 22, and a full club roster by Wednesday, May 6 until they start leaving home for Summer.
I always found it odd that many girls car pool for 20 hours to Bucaresti, Iași, Constanța, etc. when you can fly round trip for about 170 euro.
Faceless78
02-17-15, 01:46
Easter is Sunday and Monday, April 12 and 13, which is earlier than normal. When Easter occurs closer to the end of April or early May (like 2016), the girls usually stay for May Day (national holiday) and possibly mother's and father's day as well. For this year I'm guessing a very few will come back as early as Wednesday, April 15, with many more by Wednesday, April 22, and a full club roster by Wednesday, May 6 until they start leaving home for Summer.
I always found it odd that many girls car pool for 20 hours to Bucaresti, Iași, Constanța, etc. when you can fly round trip for about 170 euro.I also know girls from Amsterdam who drive even longer home. A good sleep after arrival will help.
As a matter of fact, when a girl can work 15-18 hours on a busy day, makes 5-20 sex a day, driving 20 hours is just nothing. If with friends from same town, it could even be fun.
As a matter of fact, when a girl can work 15-18 hours on a busy day, makes 5-20 sex a day, driving 20 hours is just nothing. If with friends from same town, it could even be fun.I estimate less than 5% of the girls going home by car doing this by driving themselves, the other 95% have a chauffeur. LOL.
Citizen Kane
02-17-15, 07:56
I always found it odd that many girls car pool for 20 hours to Bucaresti, Iași, Constanța, etc. when you can fly round trip for about 170 euro.I was told it's because most of the girls have a lot of stuff but because they are staying at the club they have nowhere to store it, hence they have to take it with them.
I always found it odd that many girls car pool for 20 hours to Bucaresti, Iași, Constanța, etc. when you can fly round trip for about 170 euro.
I was told it's because most of the girls have a lot of stuff but because they are staying at the club they have nowhere to store it, hence they have to take it with them.
I estimate less than 5% of the girls going home by car doing this by driving themselves, the other 95% have a chauffeur. LOL.
Citizen Kane is correct. It is logical and economical to drive.
On a plane the girls must only take between maximum 20 to 23 kilograms luggage back home to Romania unless the girl is feeling flush with cash to pay for extra luggage on the plane. This luggage includes gifts for friends and family and all their belongings which can be winter and summer wardrobes too depending on how long they have been away working. If the girl has a car or can take the shuttle bus back to Romania then they can take a lot more back with them to Romania and less cost than flying.
Those shuttle vans and trucks take huge trailer loads of personal belongings back to Romania including cars on the flat beds. You see them loading up in the towns around Frankfurt or by the Bahnhof all these trucks, vans and buses with the Romanian licence plates that take people to and from Romania.
Then there is always the option and benefit that is prevalent of the manager or pimp or the helper or the hanger on who will do the driving for you back to Romania and ensures that the girl is also bought back to work in the clubs when her sojourn at home is completed.
Citizen Kane is correct. It is logical and economical to drive.
On a plane the girls must only take between maximum 20 to 23 kilograms luggage back home to Romania unless the girl is feeling flush with cash to pay for extra luggage on the plane. This luggage includes gifts for friends and family and all their belongings which can be winter and summer wardrobes too depending on how long they have been away working. If the girl has a car or can take the shuttle bus back to Romania then they can take a lot more back with them to Romania and less cost than flying.We've had this already last year here at ISG. In Frankfurt on south side of central railway station (Hauptbahnhof) is for instance a bus operator who takes unoccupied luggage to every city in Romania during four days. Cost per kg one euro. A lot of girls use this and later go home by plane.
Shuttle bus or shuttle-van services to Romania are common because probably 10-20% of the Romanians work outside of Romania doing seasonal work. Taking care of the elderly, housecleaning, construction, and of course sex-workers. Flying to Romanian may not be that much more convenient--especially if they live in a remote village. The roads aren't Western European quality. Driving faster than the posted speed limit in say Germany or Italy will just result in a paying a fine. Driving faster than 100 km in Romania will result in you hitting a pot hole, cracking your wheel, and on the side of the road.
I estimate less than 5% of the girls going home by car doing this by driving themselves, the other 95% have a chauffeur. LOL.Girl makes money and BF / pimp is chauffeur driving the Mercedes she pays.
Citizen Kane
02-17-15, 22:48
We've had this already last year here at ISG. In Frankfurt on south side of central railway station (Hauptbahnhof) is for instance a bus operator who takes unoccupied luggage to every city in Romania during four days. Cost per kg one euro. A lot of girls use this and later go home by plane.I don't know about you but I think I would rather have all my worldly possessions with me in a car rather than them going on an unaccompanied bus tour of Romania.
I don't know about you but I think I would rather have all my worldly possessions with me in a car rather than them going on an unaccompanied bus tour of Romania.I don't know how rich you are but for me average guy 20 kg are enough to bring my gold ingot in my free luggage home by plane. LOL.
I'd booked my trip to Dusseldorf and I was happy to find that when I could travel would avoid Easter, not even thinking about the Orthodox Calendar.
So how many girls go home at this time? I am planning on trying out a number of different options when I visit (FKK's, privats etc) so with a bit of luck, the impact of girls returning home may be minimal.
I found an app (Apple and Android versions available) which helps looking for FKK in your region of interest:
http://www.freierverkehr.com/
You can search by cities, and directly call the navigator to a selected club. The list of clubs seems updated and complete enough, and provides several usefull details. I like that entry prices are listed. Unfortunately it provides no link to the club webpage nor the phone number (unless I overlooked them). Worth a try if you try to get oriented in an area you don't know.
I looked at the reviews of the android version, it beats me why so many among the users rating it with 5 stars look like women?
I found an app (Apple and Android versions available) which helps looking for FKK in your region of interest:
http://www.freierverkehr.com/
You can search by cities, and directly call the navigator to a selected club. The list of clubs seems updated and complete enough, and provides several usefull details. I like that entry prices are listed. Unfortunately it provides no link to the club webpage nor the phone number (unless I overlooked them). Worth a try if you try to get oriented in an area you don't know.
I looked at the reviews of the android version, it beats me why so many among the users rating it with 5 stars look like women?This app was posted before, as was the WARNING that his apps needs access to DevideID, location, but also Call History, Photo library, etc, etc. Many discussion going on on German and Dutch fora about the legitimate use of this (unneeded!) data. Better avoid before you will be blackmailed with the collected data!
This app was posted before, as was the WARNING that his apps needs access to DevideID, location, but also Call History, Photo library, etc, etc. Many discussion going on on German and Dutch fora about the legitimate use of this (unneeded!) data. Better avoid before you will be blackmailed with the collected data!Thanks for the warning, I hadn't noticed that it had already been discussed, and I had undervalued the potential misuse of unneeded privileges.
I advice everybody to follow Maxime advice and not to install the FreierVerkehr App.
Better alternatives have already been posted anyway.
Hi there,
I am kinda new to this forum but I have been posting USG, I will be heading to Frankfurt this may 14, and will be staying at a hotel in the at the airport. I will be arriving in the morning and my next plane is 13 hours later. I have been researching the forum for quite some time and I decide I will go to sharks instead of Oase or palace. What I would like to know is the time I should be there, I'm planning to go at 2 pm then leave at 5 pm then go to the RLD at Beite Strasse, or book an escort to my hotel, as I'm not sure if I can find the kind of girl I want in FKK. To the forumers, are there many polish, Russian, Latinas in sharks? By 90% Romanian, what do you mean by that? Or I can only find them in the RLD? And on average how many of the girls will be there at sharks at opening time to 4 pm? I am also looking to book an escort with myescortgirls.com or svenjas-escort. De.
Lastly my type of girls whose looks and body are like Natalia Starr, Ariana Marie, Maria Vittori.
Thank you
To the forumers, are there many polish, Russian, Latinas in sharks? By 90% Romanian, what do you mean by that?
I will answer your second question first. By 90 per cent Romanian it means if there were 100 girls in the club working as prostitutes then of that 100 girls there would be 90 Romanian girls.
The answer to that second question will help answer your first question by deduction that whatever other nationalities there could be including those that you name and any others make up the other 10 per cent of the working girl population.
Lastly my type of girls whose looks and body are like Natalia Starr, Ariana Marie, Maria Vittori.
Thank youYou'll find a better mix in the clubs than at the RLD. If the RLD is on your list, hit that first and then go to the club.
Banana Boi
03-01-15, 01:46
Nuupter, many if not most of the nicer girls at Sharks start after 5 pm so get your escort first, then go to Sharks. I've looked through the escort sites you posted available in Frankfurt and you're going to find girls as nice, if not nicer, at Sharks. I will tell all the Romanians to say they're Russian on May 14 and you won't know the difference.
Nuupter, many if not most of the nicer girls at Sharks start after 5 pm so get your escort first, then go to Sharks. I've looked through the escort sites you posted available in Frankfurt and you're going to find girls as nice, if not nicer, at SharksLOL, I would go at 5 pm but I have a plane to catch at 10 pm, so I have to make do, and choose either one of them, but it will most definitely be FKK since its more cost saving, and stay there for 3 hours from 3 to 6, I also have a few others FKK in my mind, palace Mainhattan and Oase, but all I'm looking for is my preference of looks, and everyone here has their own taste. I would explore the city and have a good German cuisine before going to either one of the FKK, I will post my FR after that. I visit escorts more in Asia and this is my first in Europe. I just hope I can find my type like those names listed in my first post.
Thank you all for replying.
You'll find a better mix in the clubs than at the RLD. If the RLD is on your list, hit that first and then go to the club.Correct. The only drawback is that many RLD girls start after 16.00 so you need to be able to do a late night if you follow it with a FKK. RLD in the mornings is not the best choice.
Maybe best is FKK for lunch, RLD late afternoon, then return to the same FKK (no extra cost) for dinner and the late shift.
PussyLiccker
03-01-15, 17:31
I have done Frankfurt RLD long ago. I had a good number of days to FKK and check out the RLD to see how it was like. My experiences, while long ago, is that earlier on, more closed doors, but I found younger prettier types on TaunusstraBe 36 near the corner of WesserstraBe. This was in the afternoon. Lots of walking up and down the stairs, but was ok to check out to see how was like. I found these younger pretty types earlier in the day than when I checked it out much later at night.
I personally would skip RLD, and spend my time at Sharks. But yeah, I agree with checking out Sharks later. FKK is great with 80+ naked girls present there to really know how they look and interact with you.
Vito Corleone
03-02-15, 01:36
I have done Frankfurt RLD long ago. I had a good number of days to FKK and check out the RLD to see how it was like. My experiences, while long ago, is that earlier on, more closed doors, but I found younger prettier types on TaunusstraBe 36 near the corner of WesserstraBe. This was in the afternoon. Lots of walking up and down the stairs, but was ok to check out to see how was like. I found these younger pretty types earlier in the day than when I checked it out much later at night.
I personally would skip RLD, and spend my time at Sharks. But yeah, I agree with checking out Sharks later. FKK is great with 80+ naked girls present there to really know how they look and interact with you.I also experienced the same long ago & recently.
Trans Atlantic
03-03-15, 05:58
Going to be in NRW this Wednesday to Sunday but will have to be down in Frankfurt on Friday. Despite starting out the FKK scene in Oase two years ago, when I went back last year, I didn't think much of it. I much prefer the optics in NRW. So between World, Mainhattan, or Sharks, which clubs for optics? Been to all four Hessen clubs more than a year ago. Didn't notice any outstanding lineups.
For this NRW trip, the following warrant potential site visits:
Nylon Cafe.
TeenyLand.
ACA.
ACA Gold.
DV.
VV.
LR / GT.
Maybe YY / PHG.
Thanks.
Banana Boi
03-03-15, 06:27
Looking forward to Nylon Cafe, Teenyland, and ACA Gold reviews if you make it to those places.
From everything I read PHG still isn't good and YY seems to be pretty decent, if that helps any. I know we all hope and pray that the PHG of old returns but sadly it doesn't look like it will happen.
Interesting. No Samya.
PussyLiccker
03-03-15, 06:31
I'd recommend Sharks out of the three. Also YY. I had a good recent visit to LR because I found two likable girls there. Jane I really liked, she maybe back from vacation now. ACA, I visited too many times, and didn't find the lineup all the great last few visit as I didn't notice any outstanding looking girls recently. GT, it's been talked about on the thread, not much changes. Let us know how you like VV, PHG, and ACA Gold if you visit. I doubt that PHG is back to how it was couple years ago.
BoomBoomBoom
03-03-15, 08:38
Any one know if cialis is legal to bring into Germany?
Its legal here with no need for prescription so I can bring it with me, but will customs give me trouble if they find it?
Thank you
Going to be in NRW this Wednesday to Sunday but will have to be down in Frankfurt on Friday. Despite starting out the FKK scene in Oase two years ago, when I went back last year, I didn't think much of it. I much prefer the optics in NRW. So between World, Mainhattan, or Sharks, which clubs for optics? Been to all four Hessen clubs more than a year ago. Didn't notice any outstanding lineups.
For this NRW trip, the following warrant potential site visits:
Nylon Cafe.
TeenyLand.
ACA.
ACA Gold.
DV.
VV.
LR / GT.
Maybe YY / PHG.
Thanks.For optics in Hessen: Oase and Sharks.
In NRW: LR even Nelli is at home, maybe Oceans after 7 pm, maybe Aca, GT or Samya in Koln.
I found an app (Apple and Android versions available) which helps looking for FKK in your region of interest:
http://www.freierverkehr.com/
Unfortunately it provides no link to the club webpage nor the phone number (unless I overlooked them).The links to the clubs had to be removed as a request from Google (prudish USA). Removing the phone number was wrong. In the current version the phone number is included again.
I doubt that PHG is back to how it was couple years ago.Last Saturday was a real good day in Happy Garden, with many girls from Germany and Russia:
Alona (Germany/Russia), Anita (Romania), Antonia (Romania), Bianca II (Romania), Denisa (Romania), Diana (Romania), Emmi (Romania / Spain), Eva (Romania), Isabella (Romania, formerly known as Ingrid), Judith (Romania), Julia (Russia), Kim (Romania), Kira (Germany), Laura (Colombia), Lena (Russia), Madeleine (Romania), Mia (Germany), Nadia (Romania), Natascha (Russia), Oksana (Russia), Pia (Germany), Romina (Romania), Stella (Romania), Susan (Germany/ Turkey), Tiffany (Germany), Velia (Romania), four coloured girls and some girls from whom I don't know the names. In sum I estimate 50 - 55 girls.
According to the management on Friday before 78 girls were present in Happy Garden.
PussyLiccker
03-03-15, 15:26
Last Saturday was a real good day in Happy Garden, with many girls from Germany and Russia:
Alona (Germany/Russia), Anita (Romania), Antonia (Romania), Bianca II (Romania), Denisa (Romania), Diana (Romania), Emmi (Romania / Spain), Eva (Romania), Isabella (Romania, formerly known as Ingrid), Judith (Romania), Julia (Russia), Kim (Romania), Kira (Germany), Laura (Colombia), Lena (Russia), Madeleine (Romania), Mia (Germany), Nadia (Romania), Natascha (Russia), Oksana (Russia), Pia (Germany), Romina (Romania), Stella (Romania), Susan (Germany/ Turkey), Tiffany (Germany), Velia (Romania), four coloured girls and some girls from whom I don't know the names. In sum I estimate 50 - 55 girls.
According to the management on Friday before 78 girls were present in Happy Garden.Girl count certainly seems higher than my last visit which was on a Thursday. 78 girls in that small club is alot. I may take another shot at the place on a weekend night.
I used to frquent PHG from late 2012-2013. And was my favorite club at the time because of some of the girls I've met there and the atmosphere. My last visit back in September, found 3 appealing girls, and service was subpar compared to several visits in the past. 3 girls were Casey DE, Maria Ro, Linda Ro who appealed to me the most. Perhaps there were several Russians there as you did list out a few Russians right after my visit, and probably weren't the looks I go for. As far as Germans, Casey was the only German girl I've met that night, and didn't notice others. Casey is a very beautiful blond blue eyed girl, but again service was subpar. Lot more Germans on your list that what I recall. Are these German girls ex-GT, or worked at other clubs?
My visit was on a Thursday, so maybe Friday could be worth checking out, but have doubts that it's as good as my visit couple years back. Lot of great talent back then, and mostly Ro that I liked there. I do like Germans and Russians, but they still have to be somwhat attractive for my tastes. Just because the list has several Russian and Germans doesn't mean, guaranteed to find girls for my taste, but it does increase the chances if the numbers are high. Thanks for lineup list.
Are these German girls ex-GT, or worked at other clubs?Sorry, I don't know because I don't visit GT any longer (too crowded and a smoker club). Tiffany worked before at least in GT, PHG and YY: http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?28446-Tiffany-(Duitse)-ex-YY . Her girl friend Mia worked also before in YY.
but have doubts that it's as good as my visit couple years back.The real good times from 2000 - 2005 with many girls from Poland and Russia will never come back.
The real good times from 2000 - 2005 with many girls from Poland and Russia will never come back.No problem for me I have in 2015 (due to my experience) even better pay sex than 2005. And I'm now a real fan of romanian girls. Maybe it's a bit more difficult to find the right girl than 10 years before but also in 2005 I had some rip offs even from polish or russian girls.
For me the pay sex selection at german FKK clubs is still the best in world if I consider the price-performance ratio and the safety.
Last Saturday was a real good day in Happy Garden, with many girls from Germany and Russia:
Alona (Germany/Russia), Anita (Romania), Antonia (Romania), Bianca II (Romania), Denisa (Romania), Diana (Romania), Emmi (Romania / Spain), Eva (Romania), Isabella (Romania, formerly known as Ingrid), Judith (Romania), Julia (Russia), Kim (Romania), Kira (Germany), Laura (Colombia), Lena (Russia), Madeleine (Romania), Mia (Germany), Nadia (Romania), Natascha (Russia), Oksana (Russia), Pia (Germany), Romina (Romania), Stella (Romania), Susan (Germany/ Turkey), Tiffany (Germany), Velia (Romania), four coloured girls and some girls from whom I don't know the names. In sum I estimate 50 - 55 girls.
According to the management on Friday before 78 girls were present in Happy Garden.Same turkish management than Magnum who claims 100 girls never seen, nor in GT, nor in Oase, nor in World, if only can find in PHG now or Magnum a few pretty girls like Louana in PHG before.
Is Mia. De the blond pretty face ex GT?
Is Pia. De the blond with glasses ex GT?
No problem for me I have in 2015 (due to my experience) even better pay sex than 2005. And I'm now a real fan of romanian girls. Maybe it's a bit more difficult to find the right girl than 10 years before but also in 2005 I had some rip offs even from polish or russian girls.
For me the pay sex selection at german FKK clubs is still the best in world if I consider the price-performance ratio and the safety.I agree, some romanian girls are exceptionnal, sensual women, friendly and honest, I don't understand why some of them say they are from other countries, some could be top escort in Paris, even sexier and providing as good services as angel Anita, ukrainian from Amour russe Agency met today or Danna russian from same Agency, or many russian escorts met for 200/250/ h.
Some men say me they trust more german girls, I prefer my romanian fav, thanks Emma, Isabella, Madi, Nelli / Raissa.
Banana Boi
03-03-15, 22:28
According to the management on Friday before 78 girls were present in Happy Garden.78 girls at PHG on a recent Friday? Management numbers may be counting all girls who worked the entire day but even that is good. Don't think I've ever been to PHG with more than 60 girls, not counting the ones who used to work at ByNight.
Hessen Bub
03-03-15, 23:05
Is it true that PHG is now under the same management as Magnum?
HB.
PussyLiccker
03-04-15, 01:55
Is it true that PHG is now under the same management as Magnum?
HB.Somebody mentioned this awhile back that management changed. And 78 girls is getting close to 100 girls everyday slogan. Website still says 100 girls everyday, still must be under the same management as Magnum.
Nille Copenhagen
03-04-15, 10:27
Somebody mentioned this awhile back that management changed. And 78 girls is getting close to 100 girls everyday slogan. Website still says 100 girls everyday, still must be under the same management as Magnum.Well the add you the Autobahn also say 100 girls at PHQ, but I've never seen 100 girls there, and Oceans ads said 200 girls haha! What a joke!
78 is a lot in such a small club, can anyone else confirm this number or close to this number? As I'm going to check it out in a few weeks.
78 girls at PHG on a recent Friday? Management numbers may be counting all girls who worked the entire day but even that is good.The manager spoke about 78 girls only at Friday evening. May be, may be not.
Is it true that PHG is now under the same management as Magnum?Yes, since April last year.
not counting the ones who used to work at ByNight.
ByNight and PHG are meanwhile two totally different clubs with own girls in each club.
Trans Atlantic
03-04-15, 23:21
Looking forward to Nylon Cafe, Teenyland, and ACA Gold reviews if you make it to those places.
From everything I read PHG still isn't good and YY seems to be pretty decent, if that helps any. I know we all hope and pray that the PHG of old returns but sadly it doesn't look like it will happen.
Interesting. No Samya.Just posted my report on Aca Gold. As for Nylon Cafe (NC), made an "initial" site visit today but did not session.
Their site does give good direction on where to park. Front door is on the backside of the building. From the street, there are no signs to NC. NC is on the second floor (properly signed). For those of us dumb Americans, 2nd floor in Germany is 3rd floor to US. Rang the doorbell and was greeted by reception. It is really a café/ living room. You sit down, chat with the girls and proceed from there. Was offered complimentary no-obligation refreshments and a review of the pricing (same as web site). Sat down on a couch and chatted with several ladies. All of them were in elegant dresses as if they are going on a "date. " Majority of them are definitely doable if you got a freebie as a civilian. Rota on website is accurate. Good handful were Germans. The ones who aren't, grew up in Germany. The really good looking ones in my opinion were Olivia, Emily, and Janice.
As I suspected, the good looking ones have been pre-booked (Olivia and Emily along with two others whom I didn't have an opportunity to get their names). Sat for about 90 minutes to check out the lineup and decided to leave but not before I made an appointment for Olivia for later this week. Might call to make appt for Emily as well for Thursday.
Banana Boi
03-05-15, 00:03
As I suspected, the good looking ones have been pre-booked (Olivia and Emily along with two others whom I didn't have an opportunity to get their names). Sat for about 90 minutes to check out the lineup and decided to leave but not before I made an appointment for Olivia for later this week. Might call to make appt for Emily as well for Thursday.Didn't know you could just hang out talking to girls for 90 minutes. I like your method. Don't pre-book, go there and see and talk to all the girls, then book for later in the week.
Are Olivia, Emily, and Janice all German?
Vito Corleone
03-05-15, 01:16
Are Olivia, Emily, and Janice all German?Olivia is Romanian.
Trans Atlantic
03-05-15, 01:53
Didn't know you could just hang out talking to girls for 90 minutes. I like your method. Don't pre-book, go there and see and talk to all the girls, then book for later in the week.
Are Olivia, Emily, and Janice all German?Emily and Janice yes. Olivia, I didn't even get a chance to talk to. For the popular ones, you either luck out and get them during a free slot. Otherwise you are going to have to pre-book.
HealthNutz
03-05-15, 04:10
Hello all,
I'm a frequent visitor to NRW. My favorite clubs are Goldentime and Living Room but recently, I've fell in love with Freude39. While it's a bit of a drive, I'm also a huge fan of Bernds Saunaclub.
Due to my schedule I'm only able to visit Frankfurt on an upcoming trip. Now, I've visited Oase and World and Manhattan. And I like them all. I'm not a fan of Palace.
My question to the members is: Are there any clubs in the Frankfurt area (within 1 hour drive) that have a vibe more similar to Bernds or Freude39? In other words, clubs that focus on service with great looking women but without the sharks you may find at Oase?
Thanks in advance and see you out there!
H
Emily and Janice yes. Olivia, I didn't even get a chance to talk to. For the popular ones, you either luck out and get them during a free slot. Otherwise you are going to have to pre-book.Yes Olivia is also German. I'm very glad I had pre booked her as I would have been extremely frustrated otherwise as the available non booked ladies would not have been to my taste.
Trans Atlantic
03-05-15, 18:01
Yes Olivia is also German. I'm very glad I had pre booked her as I would have been extremely frustrated otherwise as the available non booked ladies would not have been to my taste.Well I guess Olivia just doesn't like me. Drove from DUS and arrived 5 minutes early for a 1330 appt, rang the bell by the stairs, reception opened and summon Olivia. Olivia turned me down immediately. Never spoke with her before this. She's a bit more tan than the pictures.
Banana Boi. Definitely pre-screen before you book them to save yourself the hassle if you are not staying in Koln.
In addition to that, really bad luck today. Couldn't sleep that well in the hotel previous evening. While driving down from Dusseldorf, fatigue caused me to missed exits two separate times, added 25 minutes to the trip to Frechen. Also bumped front of rental car against wall (noticeable scratch) at Nylon. Drove to LR after Olivia turned me down. Parked across the street at LR. After I left LR, found a parking ticket. Something about "disability. " Was parked on sidewalk so I guess something about being sidewalk being blocked? Violated 112403. 30EUR. Went to Sparkasse across from my hotel and paid it in cash (plus 5EUR processing fee).
Well I guess Olivia just doesn't like me. Drove from DUS and arrived 5 minutes early for a 1330 appt, rang the bell by the stairs, reception opened and summon Olivia. Olivia turned me down immediately. Never spoke with her before this. She's a bit more tan than the pictures.
Banana Boi. Definitely pre-screen before you book them to save yourself the hassle if you are not staying in Koln.
In addition to that, really bad luck today. Couldn't sleep that well in the hotel previous evening. While driving down from Dusseldorf, fatigue caused me to missed exits two separate times, added 25 minutes to the trip to Frechen. Also bumped front of rental car against wall (noticeable scratch) at Nylon. Drove to LR after Olivia turned me down. Parked across the street at LR. After I left LR, found a parking ticket. Something about "disability. " Was parked on sidewalk so I guess something about being sidewalk being blocked? Violated 112403. 30EUR. Went to Sparkasse across from my hotel and paid it in cash (plus 5EUR processing fee).I did not know it is possible to pre-book a girl by phone on particular time. Is it common practice in NRW? Which clubs provide this service?
I did not know it is possible to pre-book a girl by phone on particular time. Is it common practice in NRW? Which clubs provide this service?I've made phone appointments at Teenyland, TraumParadies, Cat Exclusiv, TerminGirls and Nylon Cafe. I've made 'dates' in person at Bernds and Samya for follow on days.
Faceless78
03-06-15, 01:31
I did not know it is possible to pre-book a girl by phone on particular time. Is it common practice in NRW? Which clubs provide this service?I usually have contact info of my favorite girls, so before I visit, I will ask first, then she will wait for me at a particular time. I'm not sure if it's called pre-book.
Trans Atlantic
03-06-15, 02:12
I did not know it is possible to pre-book a girl by phone on particular time. Is it common practice in NRW? Which clubs provide this service?Nylon Cafe is not a sauna club. It is a brothel.
Well I guess Olivia just doesn't like me. Drove from DUS and arrived 5 minutes early for a 1330 appt, rang the bell by the stairs, reception opened and summon Olivia. Olivia turned me down immediately. Never spoke with her before this. She's a bit more tan than the pictures.
Banana Boi. Definitely pre-screen before you book them to save yourself the hassle if you are not staying in Koln.
In addition to that, really bad luck today. Couldn't sleep that well in the hotel previous evening. While driving down from Dusseldorf, fatigue caused me to missed exits two separate times, added 25 minutes to the trip to Frechen. Also bumped front of rental car against wall (noticeable scratch) at Nylon. Drove to LR after Olivia turned me down. Parked across the street at LR. After I left LR, found a parking ticket. Something about "disability. " Was parked on sidewalk so I guess something about being sidewalk being blocked? Violated 112403. 30EUR. Went to Sparkasse across from my hotel and paid it in cash (plus 5EUR processing fee).Very sorry to hear this. Do you know why she turned you down? Something you said or your appearance maybe? I fully respect the right of the girls to say no, but if this had been me I would have been extremely frustrated. Maybe you were just fated to have a bad day. My experience at Nylon Cafe & the service I got from Olivia was terrific.
Banana Boi
03-06-15, 10:24
Wow TA that sucks. Not a good day at all. Better to be turned down than Olivia go with you and have a shit session.
Jim57, I'm sure TA was frustrated as well but he's a pretty laid back dude. Someone like me would be screaming on here if I drove to Koln only to be turned down.
You can pay tickets at a Sparkasse? Can we do that for speeding tickets too?
Wow TA that sucks. Not a good day at all. Better to be turned down than Olivia go with you and have a shit session.
Jim57, I'm sure TA was frustrated as well but he's a pretty laid back dude. Someone like me would be screaming on here if I drove to Koln only to be turned down.
You can pay tickets at a Sparkasse? Can we do that for speeding tickets too?Screaming on here wouldn't have done him any good! Yes if was me I would have been very angry as well as frustrated! I regard myself as being pretty laid back too. As there are plenty of mongering options close by hopefully he got to relieve his frustration nearby. If this had happened in another not so civilised country with more limited options it would have been worse.
Trans Atlantic
03-07-15, 00:02
Very sorry to hear this. Do you know why she turned you down? Something you said or your appearance maybe? I fully respect the right of the girls to say no, but if this had been me I would have been extremely frustrated. Maybe you were just fated to have a bad day. My experience at Nylon Cafe & the service I got from Olivia was terrific.I didn't even get the opportunity to say anything. She walked by with a apologetic look and said she can't see me and mentioned her English not so good (as an excuse). Maybe she had a regular coming in? Maybe she doesn't like non-Germans or other races etc? Disappointed yes, but nothing to be angry about; part of the hobby. We reject girls all the time at clubs; it goes both ways. Had I had the opportunity to pre-screen her on Wednesday's "initial" site visit, it would have avoided the whole thing. With an appointment, you have to commit to an hour. Wasn't too fond of that to begin with anyway as I always do 30 min with a new girl. Considered raising hell to get a discount on another girl but Emily wasn't available for another 5-6 hours.
Lesson learned. When going to a brothel, don't make appointments blind. With Emma, at least I chatted with her. I had an appointment with her around 22 that evening but decided to cancel. Didn't want to bother making the round-trip drive down to Koln again the same day. Waste of gas and time. Next time I'll just stay in Koln. There is a ibis next to NC and B&B Hotel Frechen is a stone's throw away.
Wow TA that sucks. Not a good day at all. Better to be turned down than Olivia go with you and have a shit session.
Jim57, I'm sure TA was frustrated as well but he's a pretty laid back dude. Someone like me would be screaming on here if I drove to Koln only to be turned down.
You can pay tickets at a Sparkasse? Can we do that for speeding tickets too?If there is an IBAN number on the ticket, you should be able to pay it from your home country or if in Germany, any bank or post office (subject to a handling charge).
The 5er GT I got this time is cursed. Not only did a put a scratch on it at Nylon Cafe, got rejected by Olivia, and got a parking violation at LR all on Wednesday. I manage to clip a parked car while parking at real SB on Thursday (all damage from Wednesday and Thursday on the passenger front corner). Got a police report, exchange information. Let's see what Sixt charges me. Hope the $100K USD MasterCard insurance covers this in full. 75-80 rentals in the past ten years in US / UK / Germany. Never had a problem.
Banana Boi
03-07-15, 02:07
I think it's time to come home, TA. LOL. Sounding like a trip from hell. Go to ACA to turn your fortunes around.
When I first read about Olivia I thought maybe she had a regular coming in for a long session so your prebooking was bumped.
I had the backup cam obviously torn from my car while parked at magnum. SixT did not charge me.
PussyLiccker
03-07-15, 02:21
I didn't even get the opportunity to say anything. She walked by with a apologetic look and said she can't see me and mentioned her English not so good (as an excuse). Maybe she had a regular coming in? Maybe she doesn't like non-Germans or other races etc? Disappointed yes, but nothing to be angry about; part of the hobby. We reject girls all the time at clubs; it goes both ways. Had I had the opportunity to pre-screen her on Wednesday's "initial" site visit, it would have avoided the whole thing. With an appointment, you have to commit to an hour. Wasn't too fond of that to begin with anyway as I always do 30 min with a new girl. Considered raising hell to get a discount on another girl but Emily wasn't available for another 5-6 hours.
Lesson learned. When going to a brothel, don't make appointments blind. With Emma, at least I chatted with her. I had an appointment with her around 22 that evening but decided to cancel. Didn't want to bother making the round-trip drive down to Koln again the same day. Waste of gas and time. Next time I'll just stay in Koln. There is a ibis next to NC and B&B Hotel Frechen is a stone's throw away.
That sounds reasonable. Working girl turning you down at the door is not related whether she likes you or not as you didn't even get any time with her. It's not your appearance or any of that crap. She probably had some issues at the time. Don't fret, and keep reporting on your visits. Your posts about NC is informative.
For tomorrow noon to early evening, which FKK is better Oase, Sharks or Palace?
UShobbyist
03-08-15, 22:18
For tomorrow noon to early evening, which FKK is better Oase, Sharks or Palace?There are more girls who will do DFK without extra charges in FKK Sharks. FKK Oase is your second choice.
Michaela and Alice would be able to male money at a bigger club as well.Michaela must now work in an other / bigger club. She's now again at FKK Royal in Maintal.
Well I guess Olivia just doesn't like me. Drove from DUS and arrived 5 minutes early for a 1330 appt, rang the bell by the stairs, reception opened and summon Olivia. Olivia turned me down immediately. Never spoke with her before this. She's a bit more tan than the pictures.
Hey Trans Atlantic,
Too bad your initial visits to Nylon Cafe had not gone down well. Its been a while since I last paid a visit there (almost two years) but if you do plan to return, I can suggest two other great girls there that you should try out. Both are German.
The first one is Carmen. Brunette with gorgeous face and figure. I rate her as one of the 'most see' girls for anyone that is staying in or near Cologne. Her service is off the charts and she is one of my top ten P4P sessions ever. If you are a recent Sharks regular, then the best description of her would be a slimmer version of cute Romanian Helli but with service quality that is a lot better. Only caveat with Carmen is that she is very popular and only work two days a week and infrequently. You also have to book her way in advance. In some cases may be as far as two weeks in advance!!
The other girl is Cindy. Blond tanned cheerleader type. Not as stellar as Carmen but pretty good nonetheless. Below are there links.
http://www.nyloncafe.de/nylon-girls-koeln/132.php
http://www.nyloncafe.de/nylon-girls-koeln/54.php
Howie.
There are more girls who will do DFK without extra charges in FKK Sharks. FKK Oase is your second choice.There are many girls who will provide DFK without extra charge at virtually all clubs, you just have to find them or conduct yourself in a manner to induce this. However, as has been discussed again and again, there are so many variables involved. Plus a certain girl will DFK Guy A, Cand D, but not Guy B or E.
Certain posters here might find in their own experience that DFK without extra charge is easier to come by (for them) at, say, Sharks vs Oase, but then another poster might find the exact opposite. Another factor to bear in mind: At some clubs, the management will enforce or be more proactive in ensuring DFK is delivered across the board as part of the standard 50 e service package, whilst in other clubs this is not the case.
At the end of the day: just because you read here that Sharks has a high DFK-for-standard-session factor, that in no way ensures you will find the same thing. For me the most important factor is how I conduct myself during my interactions with girls both in and out of Zimmer and most importantly: who is the girl I choose to session with.
Trans Atlantic
03-13-15, 19:03
Hey Trans Atlantic,
Too bad your initial visits to Nylon Cafe had not gone down well. Its been a while since I last paid a visit there (almost two years) but if you do plan to return, I can suggest two other great girls there that you should try out. Both are German.
The first one is Carmen. Brunette with gorgeous face and figure. I rate her as one of the 'most see' girls for anyone that is staying in or near Cologne. Her service is off the charts and she is one of my top ten P4P sessions ever. If you are a recent Sharks regular, then the best description of her would be a slimmer version of cute Romanian Helli but with service quality that is a lot better. Only caveat with Carmen is that she is very popular and only work two days a week and infrequently. You also have to book her way in advance. In some cases may be as far as two weeks in advance!!
The other girl is Cindy. Blond tanned cheerleader type. Not as stellar as Carmen but pretty good nonetheless. Below are there links.
http://www.nyloncafe.de/nylon-girls-koeln/132.php
http://www.nyloncafe.de/nylon-girls-koeln/54.php
Howie.I did see Carmen's profile but she was not on the rota. Someone mentioned she retired / semi-retired?
Hessen Bub
03-13-15, 19:05
Why is Nylon Cafe disciussed in the FKK section? It's not a FKK club.
HB.
Article says in ten months, went from trading at 1. 40 to 1. 07--with potential to go lower.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102494917#.
Why is Nylon Cafe disciussed in the FKK section? It's not a FKK club.Nylon café is discussed in the FKK section because:
1.) there is more forum traffic and views / hits in the FKK section than in the normal Germany section. So the topic will be in general be discussed more often and at length and more chance of a response.
2.) there are some FKK visitors who also attend brothels / Laufhaus so they will invariable discuss both topics in the same post generating responses on the same topics.
3.) there are some following rules and being free form in their choice of where a topic is being discussed.
4.) Some think Nylon café is a FKK club.
UShobbyist
03-13-15, 21:42
Article says in ten months, went from trading at 1. 40 to 1. 07--with potential to go lower.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102494917#.The exchange rate is 1 USD = 0. 95 Euros today. This is the best exchange rate for USD in the past 5 years.
Member #4581
03-13-15, 21:48
A few months ago, I was at a couple of Miami strip clubs, called Tootsies and Scarlets. One of them calls itself the biggest and best strip club in the US, and is indeed the size of Sharks in size and the number of dancers was FKK like around 60 to 80. However, less than a dozen had the kind of figures that one might find in Oase, and just 3 or 4 were comparable to the average Oase or Sharks girl both body and face. I had a few "lap dances" which cost me about $150 for less than 20 minutes of light grinding, no touching pussy of course.
So yeah, the dollar euro parity, or even the current 95 cents to the Euro, are just great for US visitors. Although, I would need more than a stronger dollar to last hours and hours, and fuck like a superman.
Article says in ten months, went from trading at 1. 40 to 1. 07--with potential to go lower.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102494917#.
Trans Atlantic
03-15-15, 02:45
The exchange rate is 1 USD = 0. 95 Euros today. This is the best exchange rate for USD in the past 5 years.
This is the best rate since end of 2002
At this rate I'm going to have to plan for a fourth trip this year. I don't even hobby in the States anymore.
StarletVoyager
03-17-15, 08:53
10 day frankfurt / darmstadt girl overdose June trip booked!! Sv is back in full effect details soon LOL.
Nille Copenhagen
03-17-15, 09:10
10 day frankfurt / darmstadt girl overdose June trip booked!! Sv is back in full effect details soon LOL.Good for you, we hope you don't have tons of questions before travelling, you must know your ways by now LOL.
FormulaOneFan
03-20-15, 06:48
Well, decided to combine my love of beautiful women and F1 for a trip in July. Of course this week it comes out that the German F1 race is essentially dead. Oh well, more time for FKK!
Septimus1974
03-22-15, 20:34
Is there any FKK located at or around Bremen? If yes; can you share with me any info, I plan to make a visit to Bremen in January and would like to go to an FKK if possible.In Bremen Partytreffen is the best, it is located close to the railwaystation. Also there are Three Nightclubs With very Nice Girls, but of course to another price, Close to, in Philopsweg. And Night Club Searail is the best. Do not try to visit the Redlight District og Girls in the street if you want to stay helty. About twenty minuts With Train and ten minuts With taxi you can visit Partytreffen in Wagenfelt which were a good palce some years ago, I have not been there for Three years and as we know; matters changes.
I am going over the weekend to my yearly DD trip. Just found something new and interesting: http://fkk-oceans.de/.
The website looks very good, I don't find any info here, has anyone tried it?
My report will follow.
Vompat
I am going over the weekend to my yearly DD trip. Just found something new and interesting: http://fkk-oceans.de/.
The website looks very good, I don't find any info here, has anyone tried it?
My report will follow.
VompatThere's a thread for it, just a few slots below this one at the moment, named FKK Oceans Duesseldorf. (The original has an umlaut, but apparently the software doesn't like when I type one.)
Long before I ever visited my first FKK in the Frankfurt area, I studied weeks of posts for the various clubs on this site, and ultimately settled on Oase and Sharks as the clubs to try. Having visited each a couple of times, as well as Artemis in Berlin, Oceans in Duesseldorf, and a couple of small unremarkable places in Nuernberg, I feel like I have a fairly good grasp of what to expect at each.
For my next visit to Frankfurt, I'm interested in checking out either Mainhattan, Palace, or World. Not that I expect any of them to be on par with Oase and Sharks based on reports, but just to have a better appreciation for the layout and atmosphere when I read what people write. It has been said that lineups almost don't matter so long as there are at least a few girls one might like to go with, and I think I generally agree with the sentiment. Particularly after my visit to Oceans, which doesn't have the largest lineup yet, but acceptable. Even if the more popular clubs may have a more enjoyable and larger variety overall.
Based on what I've read at each thread in the past, these 3 clubs come across as largely a wash to me with their pros and cons. And maybe it really does come down to a coin toss. Transportation isn't an issue because I will have a car.
So for those of you with experience at one or more of these clubs, what are your personal pros and cons, and would there ordinarily be at least one or two ladies at each for almost any person's interests, assuming one isn't dead set upon girls from far flung places and ethnicities?
For my next visit to Frankfurt, I'm interested in checking out either Mainhattan, Palace, or World. Not that I expect any of them to be on par with Oase and Sharks based on reports, but just to have a better appreciation for the layout and atmosphere when I read what people write.
It's not clear how long is your next visit but if you're staying for 3 days, why not try each one.
That way, you can scratch your itch for each of these places else you will be wondering 'what if'.
I've not been back to Palace for awhile (almost a year) but it will be very much like Artemis for line up quality and ambiance.
I last visited World and Mainhattan in December. Madi and Neya are worth seeing if you stop by World. I don't have much updated intel on Mainhattan but I'm sure you will find one or two girls there that would be worth your while.
If staying longer than 3 days you can then revisit the ones you enjoyed the most from these three or alternatively make return visits back to Sharks or Oase.
Howie.
Hessen Bub
03-27-15, 22:25
Neya's ass is getting bigger and bigger. Is the food at World getting better or does she have to many breaks with mom's cooking? LOL.
HB.
TankTank123
03-28-15, 02:17
Neya's ass is getting bigger and bigger. Is the food at World getting better or does she have to many breaks with mom's cooking?Very true! The food in World has not gone better, and I believe she has spent quite some time at home over the last 6 months. So it is either mom's cooking, or the huge bowls of creamy dessert in World that I find impossible to finish.
But she is as sweet as ever. She said that she might call it quits at World if business does not improve, so fans of her had better hurry up.
Long before I ever visited my first FKK in the Frankfurt area, I studied weeks of posts for the various clubs on this site, and ultimately settled on Oase and Sharks as the clubs to try. Having visited each a couple of times, as well as Artemis in Berlin, Oceans in Duesseldorf, and a couple of small unremarkable places in Nuernberg, I feel like I have a fairly good grasp of what to expect at each.
For my next visit to Frankfurt, I'm interested in checking out either Mainhattan, Palace, or World. Not that I expect any of them to be on par with Oase and Sharks based on reports, but just to have a better appreciation for the layout and atmosphere when I read what people write. I find myself in a similar predicament. For my next visit Fri 1 May to Sun 3 May, I've decided on Sharks for Fri and Oase on Sunday but not sure where to spend my Saturday. Last year I spent 10 days in Frankfurt over 2 visits and had 5 days Oase, 3 days Sharks and 2 days World. Loved Oase and Sharks but wasn't that impressed with World. The quality of the girls was fine (no different to the other two), service and attitude was also good as were the facilities but was only a small line-up whereas I like to be spoiled for choice. To be fair to World my 2 days were a Mon and Tues. Is the size of the line-up as extensive as Oase and Sharks on a Saturday? If not, I wouldn't bother especially given the distance which for me on public transport is a factor.
So on this visit, rather than sat and sun at Oase, I am considering Palace over Mainhatten. I may be wrong but given my preference for a large line-up Mainhatten isn't going to fit the bill. The impression I have off Palace (and this is only from reading these boards) is that the line-up is slightly older (typically late 20's / early 30's as opposed to early / mid 20's at OASE and Sharks), comparable in no of girls but there is more ethnic and nationality diversity. The downside is the attitude, poor service unless you're shelling out big bucks and constant attempts to upsell (mind you a lot of Oase girls are constantly badgering for a upsell though I've never got that at Sharks or World). That seems to be the prevailing consensus on the board but I'm still tempted to find out first hand. Weather may also be a factor. I understand there is no outdoor area at Palace and I like to enjoy fresh air and lounging in the sun between sessions. Perhaps if the service is really that bad, try a couple of sessions and if worst fears are confirmed head to Mainhatten? Unfortunately, based on last year I can only manage 3 shots a day now whereas that would only work with a 2 + 2.
Still in 2 minds especially as there are a few girls I'd like to repeat at Oase if they're working when I go (Fidan, Ramona, Jennifer and Ella) and with my waning powers that wouln't leave me with any juice for newcomers unless I double up every session and so 2 days at Oase makes sense from that perspective. I will see but would welcome input from regulars / locals as to whether my perceptions are correct.
I find myself in a similar predicament. For my next visit Fri 1 May to Sun 3 May, I'm in the same predicament and for the same weekend as you. I love Sharks but I feel I can't go there every time I'm in Frankfurt. I think I'm going to Mainhattan on the Friday and if I have good time I go Oase on the Saturday. If I have a bad time I go Sharks on Saturday to meet some favourites of mine.
Sorry, didn't mean multiple posts
Sorry I hit the post button twice: too many espressos!, so I deleted this to avoid double posting and reduce clutter on the board.
I find myself in a similar predicament. For my next visit Fri 1 May to Sun 3 May, I've decided on Sharks for Fri and Oase on Sunday but not sure where to spend my Saturday.
Still in 2 minds especially as there are a few girls I'd like to repeat at Oase if they're working when I go (Fidan, Ramona, Jennifer and Ella) and with my waning powers that wouln't leave me with any juice for newcomers unless I double up every session and so 2 days at Oase makes sense from that perspective. I will see but would welcome input from regulars / locals as to whether my perceptions are correct.From time to time, many of us have similar decisions to make: which club to visit when you've only got limited time and resources to invest. My most successful solution is the "less-is-more" philosophy:
If I have only three days, I normally choose my two top-choice clubs, visiting one on a Friday, the other on a Saturday (when theoretically the line-ups at each club is are at their best and most extensive selection prevails). So I would go to Oase on Friday and Sharks on Saturday (or vica-versa). Then on the Sunday, I go back to the club where my urge to re-visit is strongest. Usuallay this means the club where there are girls whose sessions just stick in my mind and I just have to have them again.
Basically I find that both Sharks and Oase have such vast line-ups during peak days (like 70+ girls) that it is better (for me) to navigate within two big line-ups over a weekend rather than add a new club (new line-up, that might be sub-standard compared to the first two clubs) to the mix. I hate to say it, but now that World seems to be so hit-or-miss, it's made my decisions of selecting clubs to visit that much easier. For me, Mainhattan has been disappointing the few times I ventured there, and Palace: well, it is what it is.
Hi gentlemen,
I am visiting this week.
Any recommended girls with large labia (pussy lips)? FKK girls or otherwise such as brothels?
Thanks so much!
Hessen Bub
03-31-15, 10:46
Hi gentlemen,
I am visiting this week.
Any recommended girls with large labia (pussy lips)? FKK girls or otherwise such as brothels?
Thanks so much!In how many more threads are you going to xpost?
HB.
Neya's ass is getting bigger and bigger. Is the food at World getting better or does she have to many breaks with mom's cooking? LOL.
HB.Smiling friendly Nea with pretty face and curves, if I could I would try her again, I like her white skin and her ass should be a pleasure for doggy, with new girls Georgiana, Raïssa, the small slim blond and Regular girls, World casting is not so bad compare to Sharks where not many top models for me except Aurelia, but I don t know for Easter time which starts.
And in World, many real GFE girls.
Due to many questions about that here is a comparison about official taxi costs from Frankfurt Airport Terminal 1 to the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs. This estimation is based on an average trip without traffic jams and is a rough estimation.
1. Palace: 12 minutes, 16 km, day price 31 euro, night price 33 euro.
2. Sharks: 17 minutes, 24 km, day price 45 euro, night price 48 euro.
3. Mainhattan: 18 minutes, 21 km, day price 40 euro, night price 43 euro.
4. Oase. : 24 minutes, 30 km, day price 55 euro, night price 59 euro.
5. World: 39 minutes, 68 km, day price 116 euro, night price 125 euro.
A "youppie" member I know and met at Sharks on Friday and World on Saturday, said me it's easy to go to World from Francfort: train to Giessen and after other to Garbenbach? Then bus or taxi.
A "youppie" member I know and met at Sharks on Friday and World on Saturday, said me it's easy to go to World from Francfort: train to Giessen and after other to Garbenbach? Then bus or taxi.Garbenteich, not many taxis there though, you could walk down and wait for a bus, but its probably quicker to continue on to World.
There is a video on you tube showing this route from Frankfurt.
Due to many questions about that here is a comparison about official taxi costs from Frankfurt Airport Terminal 1 to the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs. This estimation is based on an average trip without traffic jams and is a rough estimation.
1. Palace: 12 minutes, 16 km, day price 31 euro, night price 33 euro.
2. Sharks: 17 minutes, 24 km, day price 45 euro, night price 48 euro.
3. Mainhattan: 18 minutes, 21 km, day price 40 euro, night price 43 euro.
4. Oase. : 24 minutes, 30 km, day price 55 euro, night price 59 euro.
5. World: 39 minutes, 68 km, day price 116 euro, night price 125 euro.At those prices, you may want to compare the cost of renting a car if you're going to be in Frankfurt a couple of days.
Trans Atlantic
04-01-15, 04:28
Due to many questions about that here is a comparison about official taxi costs from Frankfurt Airport Terminal 1 to the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs. This estimation is based on an average trip without traffic jams and is a rough estimation.
1. Palace: 12 minutes, 16 km, day price 31 euro, night price 33 euro.
2. Sharks: 17 minutes, 24 km, day price 45 euro, night price 48 euro.
3. Mainhattan: 18 minutes, 21 km, day price 40 euro, night price 43 euro.
4. Oase. : 24 minutes, 30 km, day price 55 euro, night price 59 euro.
5. World: 39 minutes, 68 km, day price 116 euro, night price 125 euro.These are one-way? A rental car for 24 hours cost 50 to 75 euro plus petrol.
These are one-way? A rental car for 24 hours cost 50 to 75 euro plus petrol.Not everyone wants to rent a motor vehicle or like to drive (in a foreign country) or some people like the convenience or like mostly because they want to drink alcohol.
Not everyone wants to rent a motor vehicle or like to drive (in a foreign country) or some people like the convenience or like mostly because they want to drink alcohol.You are right, many prefer drinking than driving and even than going to room said girls.
In Germany, can drive very fast and German drivers are the best and the most courteous I know, when I drive between Basel and Hamburg, so we have to be safe and respectful when driving especially when faster than them.
Vito Corleone
04-01-15, 07:53
Garbenteich, not many taxis there though, you could walk down and wait for a bus, but its probably quicker to continue on to World.
There is a video on you tube showing this route from Frankfurt.Zero taxis & I wouldn't even call it a station. Felt like some remote village in Alaska. About 25 min walk to World.
UShobbyist
04-01-15, 21:49
A "youppie" member I know and met at Sharks on Friday and World on Saturday, said me it's easy to go to World from Francfort: train to Giessen and after other to Garbenbach? Then bus or taxi.There are many taxis at Giessen Hbf. You always take taxi from Giessen Hbf to FKK World. You should never go to Garbenbach to waste your time. There is no taxi at Garbenbach and you may get stuck at the middle of nowhere.
Not everyone wants to rent a motor vehicle or like to drive (in a foreign country) or some people like the convenience or like mostly because they want to drink alcohol.Plus, World is not the easiest place to find if you are unfamiliar. Even with GPS.
Are all the girls shaved in all of the FKKs?
Or where can you find one, natural looking with pubic hair?
I love a triangle of trimmed pubic hair.
Are all the girls shaved in all of the FKKs?
Or where can you find one, natural looking with pubic hair?
I love a triangle of trimmed pubic hair.99% shaved, in my experience. The only variation that I have seen is the occasional landing strip.
Zero taxis & I wouldn't even call it a station. Felt like some remote village in Alaska. About 25 min walk to World.Walking in Alaska, my dreamed land for free ride, good for health to warm heart before intensive sport at World, or carrying the bar.
You should never go to Garbenbach to waste your time. There is no taxi at Garbenbach and you may get stuck at the middle of nowhere.It's better to go to Polheim-Garben teich.
UShobbyist
04-02-15, 21:03
It's better to go to Polheim-Garben teich.Can you catch a taxi there?
Can you catch a taxi there?Taxi situation is no different to the situation at the Garbenbach station that you mentioned.
Somebody asked why Romanian girls continue to work in FKK if they are only netting 90 EUR a day after paying their entry fee, taxes, and lodging. If a girl works 25 days a month, that comes out to 2250 EUR a month net. This is probably quadruple the salary of the average Romanian! These girls are NOT spending their hard-earned EUR in Germany. When these girls are not working in the FKK, they are at home in Romania. If they really wanted, they could work in FKK four months out of the year and live comfortably in Romania for the remaining eight months. Cost of living is much cheaper in Romania. Looking up the figures in Numbeo we can get a comparison:
Munich:
1762 EUR per month for 3 bedroom apartment city center.
20000 EUR for VW Golf.
Bucharest:
545 EUR per month for 3 bedroom apartment city center.
15852 EUR for VW Golf.
Cluj Napoca (second biggest Romanian city):
408 EUR per month for 3 bedroom apartment city center.
15845 EUR for VW Golf.
Luxury items are the same price, whether you buy them in Bucharest or Munich. But the cost of everyday goods and service is much cheaper Bucharest. The other thing to consider is that many Romanian WGs live in places much smaller than Bucharest and Cluj-Napoca, so the cost of the rents would be significantly lower than the figures quoted above.
Member #4581
04-03-15, 04:07
I think the busy and popular ones do pretty ok. Roxana said she was buying or building a house in Romania and also seems like has a car in Darmstadt I think. I think Sandra or a few other popular girls also seem to do fairly good. On the other hand, the majority are clearing just a couple of hundred after their cover charges I reckon, and some much less. Neya, my buddy, seems like she is generally not busy and she is not very aggressive at all, which works against her. Even Karina, who hangs with the Romanian crowd across from the stairs at sharks and is ok pretty in my view (never sessioned with her though) is just walking around most of the time and not all that busy.
Yes, a couple of thousand a month after cover charges is probably an ok income but for that you still have to fuck hundreds of stranger some of who are not so good to fuck. Also, their working life is short.
Seems like a lot to put up with. In the US, a semi decent waitress at a slightly upscale restaurant could make more in a month from tips, and she does not have to fuck anyone, and work far fewer hours.
Seems like a lot to put up with. In the US, a semi decent waitress at a slightly upscale restaurant could make more in a month from tips, and she does not have to fuck anyone, and work far fewer hours.It's a function of the options available to a Romanian.
If you're poor and don't possess valued qualifications or good connections, then it's a choice of working in some dead end job for a few hundred euro a month versus the possibility of making much more than that.
Seems like a lot to put up with. In the US, a semi decent waitress at a slightly upscale restaurant could make more in a month from tips, and she does not have to fuck anyone, and work far fewer hours.My post mentioned the girls at the lower end of the FKK payscale (estimated 90 EUR net per day). But you are comparing American waitresses at the mid-to-upper end of the payscale. Given the tipping culture in the USA, I am sure there are waitresses at upscale restaurants that can pull down $100 K untaxed. But these waitresses probably have 10+ years experience in the food and beverage industry. What are the chances that a 21 year old girl from a trailer park in West Virginia could get a job at a Michellin-star restaurant in NYC with zero experience? I don't think that scenario is likely. But a hot 21-year old from a gypsy camp in Romania can work in a Hessen FKK with zero experience and sometimes zero English or German.
Here is another article from 2013 stating that average Romanian house is 45000 EUR and 80000 EUR in the center of the Romanian capital, Bucharest:
http://ee24.com/news/romania/average-property-prices-romania-rose-45000/
Just estimates, but let's say WG's in Hessen FKK make between 20000-200000 EUR per year TAX FREE. This means the Romanian WG could conceivably purchase two homes in her home city on one year's salary without taking out a loan. Would an American waitress be able to do the same? No--not unless she lives in a small town in Mexico but holds a waitress job at a slightly upscale restaurant in NYC.
Hessen Bub
04-03-15, 17:43
IF the girls were well educated and IF they had the chance to make similar money in a "normal" job. They wouldn't be working as a prostitute. But they don't. So they are fucked. Literally every day.
HB.
All the Romanian FKK club girls in Germany don't really work as a prostitue. Of course they all work here in other jobs and most of them as a waitress or a similar job. And these jobs for young Romanian girls at least paid in the same range or even better than as in the US for a "semi decent waitress". That's what all the parents, relatives and friends in Romania believe because there is no question about how a waitress in Germany earns so much. LOL.
Hessen Bub
04-03-15, 18:22
there is no question about how a waitress in Germany earns so much. LOL.Must be the generous tipping in Germany. :D
HB.
Must be the generous tipping in Germany. :D Yep that generous tipping is more a powder-room change; so called Holly Golightly this.
Faceless78
04-03-15, 19:32
All the Romanian FKK club girls in Germany don't really work as a prostitue. Of course they all work here in other jobs and most of them as a waitress or a similar job. And these jobs for young Romanian girls at least paid in the same range or even better than as in the US for a "semi decent waitress". That's what all the parents, relatives and friends in Romania believe because there is no question about how a waitress in Germany earns so much. LOL.Once I was in the room, the girl received a phone call, she answered, it was her mother. After 5 mins chat, she explained to me she had to call her mother around this clock, since it's the time she supposed to leave work from a "restaurant". And if sometimes music's too loud, mother would ask her to drink less, leave the club and go home early, blabla. I don't know how the girl could keep a secret for more than one year, or the mother just pretend not to know anything.
Meanwhile, for those who work for years, the secret becomes a public one. A girl who has stayed in Germany for 3 years, complains about her unpleasant holidays back home: family ask for all kinds of gifts, friends approach her for "borrowing" money, almost all diners or meetings are paid by her, etc. So she basically sleeps at home all day long.
UShobbyist
04-03-15, 20:34
Taxi situation is no different to the situation at the Garbenbach station that you mentioned.Thank you for the info. It looks like that the best way to reach FKK World is still taking a taxi at Giessen Hbf.
TankTank123
04-04-15, 01:11
she had to call her mother around this clock, since it's the time she supposed to leave work from a "restaurant". And if sometimes music's too loud, mother would ask her to drink less, leave the club and go home early, blabla. I don't know how the girl could keep a secret for more than one year, or the mother just pretend not to know anything.Some have to go to extremes to keep the secret. Two weeks ago, a girl from Sharks who had already been working there for some time, told me that she was taking the following weeks off to work in a restaurant in Frankfurt. The restaurant owner had agreed to engage her for 2 weeks at no pay, but she gets to keep tips, in exchange for telling her parents when they visit her this week what a good waitress she had been over the last one and a half years.
She told me this as she wanted me to go to that restaurant on a specific night when her parents would be dining there, show recognition of her, and ask her whether she remembered what I used to order when I frequented the restaurant last year. In exchange, she promised me a free session when I next visit Sharks after Easter. She will be following her family back to Romania for Orthodox Easter celebrations.
I teased her by asking how many additional free sessions I could get in exchange for not turning up that night asking her why she had moved from Sharks to that restaurant!
Member #4581
04-04-15, 04:20
Ok, I was not trying to compare Michelin star restaurant waitresses to the FKK girls, but even at casual dining places like cheese cake factory, or macaroni grill, or pf changs, etc, glassdoor numbers or other data show they make 30 to 35 k or more on average. To get to $30 k which would be low 20 ks in euro, depending on the exchange rate at the time, an FKK girl has to make about 100 euro a day whle working 5 days a week, 52 days a year, net of her entry fee. I guess that's doable and of course the popular girls do a lot more. But it just seemed to me that there are also a lot of girls who don't get even a couple of sessions a day, which just goes to paying for their own entry fee.
Of course, I don't deny their costs are low if they lived in Romania, but then again, if they lived in Romania for six months and in Germany for six months, they need to make 200 a day net of entry fee, to get to the same income.
My point is just that the rates are pretty cheap in Germany. For example, in San Fran strip clubs like Mitchell Brothers, while prostituon is not officially legal, most dancers are willing to give a quick blow job, but they rush through it so much, less than 10 minutes really, and for that you have to fork over 250 to 350 dollars, depending in how hot is the girl. Even a simple lap dance costs 50 bucks or more in there, and a hand job is nearly 150.
Trans Atlantic
04-04-15, 05:15
Not everyone wants to rent a motor vehicle or like to drive (in a foreign country) or some people like the convenience or like mostly because they want to drink alcohol.Having driven only manual transmission two times in the past 10 years, the foreign experience in the last three years has increase my proficiency. That's an expensive 30-60 EUR beer. To each his own.
Plus, World is not the easiest place to find if you are unfamiliar. Even with GPS.First time is always unfamiliar but with planning that first time does not mean having to get lost.
Faceless78
04-04-15, 06:09
Some have to go to extremes to keep the secret. Two weeks ago, a girl from Sharks who had already been working there for some time, told me that she was taking the following weeks off to work in a restaurant in Frankfurt. The restaurant owner had agreed to engage her for 2 weeks at no pay, but she gets to keep tips, in exchange for telling her parents when they visit her this week what a good waitress she had been over the last one and a half years.
She told me this as she wanted me to go to that restaurant on a specific night when her parents would be dining there, show recognition of her, and ask her whether she remembered what I used to order when I frequented the restaurant last year. In exchange, she promised me a free session when I next visit Sharks after Easter. She will be following her family back to Romania for Orthodox Easter celebrations.
I teased her by asking how many additional free sessions I could get in exchange for not turning up that night asking her why she had moved from Sharks to that restaurant!People just have to make bigger and more lies to cover another one, which is sad, yet we all do.
So you agree on this deal? Sounds quite interesting though. I would pass on that night for the girl if we are friends, it should be a very unique experience. But since she asked you for this special favor, I assume you know each other well and she trusts you.
What I did the girl I mentioned, was just remain silence and let her finish the call, and in return I got some really warm and wet kisses LOL.
TankTank123
04-04-15, 06:27
I would have helped her even for no return favours just to see what she looked like and behaved in a normal situation, but could not oblige as I am stuck in Switzerland for the whole of April.
She might well have persuaded another of her regular customers to help out, as she does have quite a few. I read a post listing her as not present at Sharks recently, so she is probably already working at the restaurant.
Ok, I was not trying to compare Michelin star restaurant waitresses to the FKK girls, but even at casual dining places like cheese cake factory, or macaroni grill, or pf changs, etc, glassdoor numbers or other data show they make 30 to 35 k or more on average. To get to $30 k which would be low 20 ks in euro, depending on the exchange rate at the time, an FKK girl has to make about 100 euro a day whle working 5 days a week, 52 days a year, net of her entry fee. The restaurants that you mention are busy chains, so I imagine these waitresses would be on their feet all day. Comparatively, sex workers get to sit a lot more and are on perpetual "smoke break". Don't get me wrong. I am not saying sex work is easy. But I believe that once the WG overcomes her inhibitions, she loses her emotional attachment to the act of sex. Things she once considered nasty are now mundane. In some clubs, I have to hold my breath while walking through the locker room. But guess what? These men still all get laid!! Customers all have different demands. Some may just want to kiss the entire thirty minutes. Some may want thirty minutes of non-stop BBBJ or fucking. Some come after 5 minutes. Some men like to stay multiple hours in the room, but spend a good portion of the time talking. I fall in category three if it is my first or second pop of the day. And category two if it is my third pop of the day. So only about 33% of the time am I physically demanding for a girl.
Also I think you and I would both agree that 20 K EUR per year is the absolute low range. Any WGs who are making less than that should have the common sense to quit FKK work and return to Romania or improve their German and get a job as hotel receptionist in downtown Frankfurt..
Of course, I don't deny their costs are low if they lived in Romania, but then again, if they lived in Romania for six months and in Germany for six months, they need to make 200 a day net of entry fee, to get to the same income.
The cost of living in Germany is negligible because they are migrant workers. They work long shifts and six days a week, so they don't have time to spend any money while in Germany. Sleeping overnight in Germany costs them between 0 EUR and 20 EUR per night if they choose to sleep in the club. Some girls never leave the club while they are in Germany. For one to three months at a time, that is probably manageable. Any longer and the FKK club would probably feel like a prison. Or their handler rents a small flat for 500 EUR a month and multiple girls sleep there (distributing the costs). Under that scenario, they only travel between that flat and the FKK club.
My point is just that the rates are pretty cheap in Germany. For example, in San Fran strip clubs like Mitchell Brothers, while prostituon is not officially legal, most dancers are willing to give a quick blow job, but they rush through it so much, less than 10 minutes really, and for that you have to fork over 250 to 350 dollars, depending in how hot is the girl. Even a simple lap dance costs 50 bucks or more in there, and a hand job is nearly 150.Not officially legal = illegal and American prices reflect that risk. Note how much more expensive American porno queens are to rent compared to the equivalent in Europe.
PussyLiccker
04-04-15, 19:04
Once I was in the room, the girl received a phone call, she answered, it was her mother. After 5 mins chat, she explained to me she had to call her mother around this clock, since it's the time she supposed to leave work from a "restaurant". And if sometimes music's too loud, mother would ask her to drink less, leave the club and go home early, blabla. I don't know how the girl could keep a secret for more than one year, or the mother just pretend not to know anything.
I've seen few times they crying at the corner of garden or in the toilet or while making phone calls. I feel sorry too.
I've seen girls crying at Oase. I remember a Ro girl I repeated many times at Oase long ago. She was young, 20 yrs old, and I believe new to the business (Usually these types of girls used to approach me for some reason). I remember her approach was a bit shy and seemed a bit nervous about approaching strangers for sex (which I can imagine). I was quite fond of her, as in the room, she was a sweetheart. She had her mother's picture on the phone, told me she misses her family and etc. Get all sad. She said she has to call her mother often. Another girl at GT had a picture of her BF on her cell, and got call from her friend, and her girl friend (who also works at GT) was crying that she got hit by her BF. I could hear this girl crying real loud. Another time, a girl at Oase I've seen crying outside talking to somebody on the phone, and supposedly a client tried to finger her even though she told him not to, and wouldn't pay up. I went with her prior to this incident and she was a sweetheart. And of course the girl that was crying at Oase because her BF fucked her, and took her money.
Just some random stuff I've run into.
Faceless78
04-04-15, 19:52
Another girl at GT had a picture of her BF on her cell, and got call from her friend, and her girl friend (who also works at GT) was crying that she got hit by her BF. I could hear this girl crying real loud. Another time, a girl at Oase I've seen crying outside talking to somebody on the phone, and supposedly a client tried to finger her even though she told him not to, and wouldn't pay up. I went with her prior to this incident and she was a sweetheart.
Just some random stuff I've run into.Talking about BF thing, I don't really like to take girls with BFs outside, no matter it's true love or a kind of fish thing. I just feel uncomfortable and I give up several for this reason; and I also know a girl in samya beaten up by her boy, yet I didn't see her crying, she didn't come to work for nearly 2 weeks, when she came back I closely checked if there are any scars left; another time in the room, the girl asked me if she can pick up a call from home, I said of course. It started normal, though I didn't understand any romanian. Yet later it turned serious, I can feel the anger and upset though I still didn't understand anything. She suddenly began to yell out very loud and scared me to shit. If someone happened to pass by I bet he will break in to check if anyone is killed. It lasted for more than 15 minutes, and after that girl began to cry but refused to tell the reason. So all I could do was hug her and say some meaningless words to comfort her.
Also some random stuff I've run into.
Talking about BF thing, I don't really like to take girls with BFs outside, no matter it's true love or a kind of fish thing. I just feel uncomfortable and I give up several for this reason; and I also know a girl in samya beaten up by her boy, yet I didn't see her crying, she didn't come to work for nearly 2 weeks, when she came back I closely checked if there are any scars left; another time in the room, the girl asked me if she can pick up a call from home, I said of course. It started normal, though I didn't understand any romanian. Yet later it turned serious, I can feel the anger and upset though I still didn't understand anything. She suddenly began to yell out very loud and scared me to shit. If someone happened to pass by I bet he will break in to check if anyone is killed. It lasted for more than 15 minutes, and after that girl began to cry but refused to tell the reason. So all I could do was hug her and say some meaningless words to comfort her.
Also some random stuff I've run into.How to know the girls have BFs before going to the room? Do you mean you don't repeat the girl with BF? If a girl has BF, is it affect her performance in the room?
Member #4581
04-05-15, 02:47
Speaking of boyfriends, I asked this one girl at Oase (who was at Sharks a year ago) why she left and moved to Oase, and she said something about liking it at Oase better yadda yadda. I followed up with, are you still friends with xxx, a girl at sharks that she used to hang out with. She said "no, she was not that nice to me, I was friends with her only because my boyfriend was friends with her boyfriend, and of course I had to be nice to her". I knew what she meant, but I asked "so you do have a boyfriend, huh". (In the past, she had told me she did not have any boyfriend). I guess she realised she said a little too much, and promptly clammed up, and pretended like she did not understand me anymore.
Faceless78
04-05-15, 07:33
How to know the girls have BFs before going to the room? Do you mean you don't repeat the girl with BF? If a girl has BF, is it affect her performance in the room?Hah, of course I won't bring such an inappropriate question during the first meeting. So the info comes from the chat later on or other familiar girls in the club, usually by accident, since it's not a popular topic in clubs. So you are right, I don't repeat. And it's nothing about performance, I just don't have too much interests in girls who are others' GF or wife, both in real life or in FKKs. If I have to find a certain BF is nothing more than a fish, this negative feeling grows even fast. One girl I know for 2 years has no personal savings, everything goes to her dear man in the city.
Speaking of boyfriends, I asked this one girl at Oase (who was at Sharks a year ago) why she left and moved to Oase, and she said something about liking it at Oase better yadda yadda. I followed up with, are you still friends with xxx, a girl at sharks that she used to hang out with. She said "no, she was not that nice to me, I was friends with her only because my boyfriend was friends with her boyfriend, and of course I had to be nice to her". I knew what she meant, but I asked "so you do have a boyfriend, huh". (In the past, she had told me she did not have any boyfriend). I guess she realised she said a little too much, and promptly clammed up, and pretended like she did not understand me anymore.That's usually the case, most girls will bring up the topic and tell you she has a man outside there, it cuts customers' interests. As a result, sometimes girls will even lie when you ask for another girl's info, like mentions by accident your favor girl has a 5-years BF waiting, she was really sick last week, or she doesn't wash after session sth etc.
Hessen Bub
04-05-15, 08:23
How to know the girls have BFs before going to the room? Do you mean you don't repeat the girl with BF? If a girl has BF, is it affect her performance in the room?Could have seen photos with her BF on facebook. Some girls talk quite openly about having a BF or being married. There was a girl at Oase years ago, when she had a BF she wouldn't kiss. So whenever she was single she new I'd take her to the room because she kissed.
Girls in a happy relationship often give less than girls who are single. But that's not a rule, I've had great session with married girls, even outside the club.
HB.
Faceless78
04-05-15, 08:53
Could have seen photos with her BF on facebook. Some girls talk quite openly about having a BF or being married. There was a girl at Oase years ago, when she had a BF she wouldn't kiss. So whenever she was single she new I'd take her to the room because she kissed.
Girls in a happy relationship often give less than girls who are single. But that's not a rule, I've had great session with married girls, even outside the club.
HB.Perhaps I get some personal issues with married girls, just lose all the interests all in a sudden. Once knew a young one in the bar, chatted, drunk and went to her house. When I noticed the pic of she and a man in wedding dress on the wall, I woke up and left, though she's quite my type.
Are there any airport ATMs that give decent exchange rates? I usually go to a bank to get my Euros but I am arriving late next month. Dus Airport.
Dad Fun 555
04-07-15, 02:35
Would it be OK in general to arrive at an FKK running / jogging? Meaning arriving a hot and sweaty mess in skimpy florouscent clothes. They have showers and clean change of clothes when you arrive. Seems like a great way to get in a run while on vacation. Just want to make sure I wouldn't be violating dress code or something and get turned away at the door. Does anybody ever do this?
Would it be OK in general to arrive at an FKK running / jogging? Meaning arriving a hot and sweaty mess in skimpy florouscent clothes. They have showers and clean change of clothes when you arrive. Seems like a great way to get in a run while on vacation. Just want to make sure I wouldn't be violating dress code or something and get turned away at the door. Does anybody ever do this?If you pay the entry fee, you can just take a good shower and proceed as you wish. Nobody will pay you much mind until you are in your towel.
Vito Corleone
04-07-15, 02:52
Would it be OK in general to arrive at an FKK running / jogging? Meaning arriving a hot and sweaty mess in skimpy florouscent clothes. They have showers and clean change of clothes when you arrive. Seems like a great way to get in a run while on vacation. Just want to make sure I wouldn't be violating dress code or something and get turned away at the door. Does anybody ever do this?I do it all the time when it rains. I run from the car to the entrance.
Speaking of boyfriends, I asked this one girl at Oase (who was at Sharks a year ago) why she left and moved to Oase, and she said something about liking it at Oase better yadda yadda. I followed up with, are you still friends with xxx, a girl at sharks that she used to hang out with. She said "no, she was not that nice to me, I was friends with her only because my boyfriend was friends with her boyfriend, and of course I had to be nice to her". I knew what she meant, but I asked "so you do have a boyfriend, huh". (In the past, she had told me she did not have any boyfriend). I guess she realised she said a little too much, and promptly clammed up, and pretended like she did not understand me anymore.Does this girl's names (at sharks and oase) start with a letter in the beginning of the alphabet?
Would it be OK in general to arrive at an FKK running / jogging? Meaning arriving a hot and sweaty mess in skimpy florouscent clothes. They have showers and clean change of clothes when you arrive. Seems like a great way to get in a run while on vacation. Just want to make sure I wouldn't be violating dress code or something and get turned away at the door. Does anybody ever do this?I don't think it would be an issue. I've done yoga in the darker areas of some FKK during the slow parts of the day. So I can see where you are coming from.
Member #4581
04-07-15, 04:05
Not sure where you are from, and I can only speak for myself. There are some or perhaps several American banks and broker accounts, where if you have premium status I. E maintain a certain amount of assets with them etc, give a great break on the ATM fee.
I have one such account, and not only does it not charge any ATM fee abroad, it gives an exchange rate very close to the actual official rate you might see on google finance or Bloomberg. Previously, I would exchange at the local banks or worse yet in the airports, and they would be ripping off several points. With this one, the rate I get is less than 1% from official rate. And to me, that is a much bigger deal than ATM fee.
Are there any airport ATMs that give decent exchange rates? I usually go to a bank to get my Euros but I am arriving late next month. Dus Airport.
Hessen Bub
04-07-15, 12:15
Perhaps I get some personal issues with married girls, just lose all the interests all in a sudden. Once knew a young one in the bar, chatted, drunk and went to her house. When I noticed the pic of she and a man in wedding dress on the wall, I woke up and left, though she's quite my type.I fucked a Romanian girl, she was married with a small child. Her husband didn't know what she is doing, he was away for work for periods of three to four months. Didn't keep me from taking her to a hotel and fuck her all night long. LOL.
HB.
Nille Copenhagen
04-07-15, 12:40
Perhaps I get some personal issues with married girls, just lose all the interests all in a sudden. Once knew a young one in the bar, chatted, drunk and went to her house. When I noticed the pic of she and a man in wedding dress on the wall, I woke up and left, though she's quite my type.I've been with many married girls, I have no issues they are often quite horny hehe.
Faceless78
04-07-15, 15:36
I've been with many married girls, I have no issues they are often quite horny hehe.
I fucked a Romanian girl, she was married with a small child. Her husband didn't know what she is doing, he was away for work for periods of three to four months. Didn't keep me from taking her to a hotel and fuck her all night long. LOL.
HB.It's more like my taste for the girls / women. Since the first day I grew interests in female creatures, I find myself more into young ones, I prefer lovely more than sexy, tiny small body more than mature sized-up, teenage type more than MILF. My friends sometimes say I'm a big fan of loli, which I don't deny, more or less. And for me, marriage is the line BTW girl and woman. I must have fucked, if not many, some married ones, but I won't go for them on purpose.
I have a friend who only take girlfriends between age of 28-29, for which he explains the "best time of them". This of course adds up extra work for him, but he takes it as a challenge and is quite proud of himself every time "mission accomplished".
Hessen Bub
04-07-15, 17:12
The girl I was writing about was married but young, petite, slim. And a good fuck. I'm also into young petite slim girls with firm body and boobs, natural though.
You'd be surprised how many girls age 21 and under are married with kids.
HB.
Faceless78
04-07-15, 17:46
The girl I was writing about was married but young, petite, slim. And a good fuck. I'm also into young petite slim girls with firm body and boobs, natural though.
You'd be surprised how many girls age 21 and under are married with kids.
HB.Yes I know. That's why I say I must have fucked some married girls. Ok I'll make it clear, I like young slim petite unmarried girls LOL my married or BF issue is more mentally than physically. It may be like some men will have extra interests when a girl introduce herself as a college student or just into the business for a few weeks.
Would it be OK in general to arrive at an FKK running / jogging? Meaning arriving a hot and sweaty mess in skimpy florouscent clothes. They have showers and clean change of clothes when you arrive. Seems like a great way to get in a run while on vacation. Just want to make sure I wouldn't be violating dress code or something and get turned away at the door. Does anybody ever do this?You see this all the time.
Many Germans are into cycling in the countryside. You see a lot of them near the FKKs in the country lanes, then turn into the clubs for a pit stop to fuck a girl or four before travelling on again. It is a good excuse to get out of the house and excuse for the wife or girlfriend as their whereabouts.
In the NRW clubs you have sometimes on the flat lands of that area Dutch and Germans cycling to the sauna clubs like Golden Time, Happy Garden and Villa Vertigo since they are close to the Netherlands border and can be cycled between clubs.
PussyLiccker
04-08-15, 02:15
Anybody have good insight into this? Obviously, Orthodox holidays would take a dip like recent estimations of Oase few days before Orthodox Easter to be about 50 girls compared to what 80 girls during non-holiday week there?
When do most girls take off during the summer?
When in the fall would you expect most girls?
Mid April this year would be Orthodox Easter Holiday. Fully recovered by May? Increase in June? I guess Oase would be pretty consistent until a big Messe comes up which would draw girls from other clubs. That would definately be a peak times, but curious what other times would be peak. Likely other Messe times that draws men to clubs(perhaps not since I've been to one that draws more men, but not more girls). This is just peak number of girls in select clubs during messe in that region, what I'm interested in is overall number of Romanian working girls peaking in Germany in general.
If Syz's LU list didn't exclude holidays and we had data all year around, we could have a telling line graph. :D
Would it be OK in general to arrive at an FKK running / jogging? Meaning arriving a hot and sweaty mess in skimpy florouscent clothes. They have showers and clean change of clothes when you arrive. Seems like a great way to get in a run while on vacation. Just want to make sure I wouldn't be violating dress code or something and get turned away at the door. Does anybody ever do this?Forgot to mention. FKK Artemis has a gym in the facility, if I remember correctly. Is this the only club with a fitness section?
UShobbyist
04-09-15, 20:52
Forgot to mention. FKK Artemis has a gym in the facility, if I remember correctly. Is this the only club with a fitness section?AFAIK, FKK Artemis is the only FKK club which has a gym.
I fucked a Romanian girl, she was married with a small child. Her husband didn't know what she is doing, he was away for work for periods of three to four months. Didn't keep me from taking her to a hotel and fuck her all night long. LOL.
HB.Correct, for these woman, to fuck some guy is so easy like to scratch the arse. But, not every woman can make this work, in Pal some girls must first have drinking or drugs to start, for example. Before, 2010, many woman made 250000 or more in year easy, no tax. No more is easy like before. This is bad for some men, because the woman are lying very much, but also good, because the woman make more for less (some).
Trans Atlantic
04-10-15, 03:35
Are there any airport ATMs that give decent exchange rates? I usually go to a bank to get my Euros but I am arriving late next month. Dus Airport.The ATM does not dictate the exchange rate; VISA / Mastercard does and your own bank may add on an additional fee on top of that. What the ATM may also impose is an additional transaction fee.
At DUS, go with Euronet ATM by the Rewe on the arrivals level. I've found the Sparkasse ATM started tackling on an additional transaction fee in the past year. Euronet ATM may give you an option for the transaction to post in your native currency (usually at a horrible rate) or post in euro and let your own bank convert. Letting your own bank convert is usually the better option.
Here's a link to the 2015 Trade Fairs in Frankfurt. This calendar may help you when to decide to make hotel reservations (hotels are usually more expensive during the Frankfurt Messe) and visit FKKs in the area.
https://www.messefrankfurt.com/content/dam/corporate/messe/publikationen/MF-Kal_web_FFM_2015_E.pdf
UShobbyist
04-11-15, 22:33
Here's a link to the 2015 Trade Fairs in Frankfurt. This calendar may help you when to decide to make hotel reservations (hotels are usually more expensive during the Frankfurt Messe) and visit FKKs in the area.
https://www.messefrankfurt.com/content/dam/corporate/messe/publikationen/MF-Kal_web_FFM_2015_E.pdfThis Messe schedule is very helpful. Do you have the schedule for July and August of 2015 ?
This Messe schedule is very helpful. Do you have the schedule for July and August of 2015 ?The PDF document has three pages, July and August are on the second page.
Hi guys,
Which of the German cities is recommended for a FKK newbie?
Thanks
The ATM does not dictate the exchange rate; VISA / Mastercard does and your own bank may add on an additional fee on top of that. What the ATM may also impose is an additional transaction fee.
At DUS, go with Euronet ATM by the Rewe on the arrivals level. I've found the Sparkasse ATM started tackling on an additional transaction fee in the past year. Euronet ATM may give you an option for the transaction to post in your native currency (usually at a horrible rate) or post in euro and let your own bank convert. Letting your own bank convert is usually the better option.Trans Atlantic,
Thanks for the accurate reply. I always thought what ever ATM I used would dictate the exchange rate, Dumb me. Re Transaction Fees, I use Schwab and they pay all transaction fees.
UShobbyist
04-16-15, 21:30
Hi guys,
Which of the German cities is recommended for a FKK newbie?
ThanksI recommend Frankfurt where you can reach Hessen big five easily without a rental car. Among Hessen big five, I recommend FKK Sharks and FKK World because you are less likely to get ripped off in these two FKK clubs.
Burma Jones
04-17-15, 16:12
Whenever I travel to Germany, I try and make it a point to stop in one of the local breweries that brew their own stuff. Most of the times the beers all taste the same due to reinheitsgebot dedication or due to regional tastes. When in Baden Baden in January, I stopped by Amadeus Hausbrau. They had several orders for 1/2 Coke 1/2 Fanta over ice. They must have made 7 or 8 of them for a couple of girls sitting over in the corner. By that time, I had ordered my food so didn't have a menu to see what the name of this drink was. Does anyone here know? Just curious as it seemed really unique and something I had never seen. I also believe to mix these in the US would not be tasty as too much high fructose would make this drink syrupy.
SwingerLover
04-17-15, 16:27
They had several orders for 1/2 Coke 1/2 Fanta over ice. In Baden-Baden, they propably call that a "Spezi" (pronounced "shpe-tsi" It's a very commen mixture in Germany, which is available under different names in different regions and is also available already mixed in supermarkets. The Coca-Cola version is called "Mezzo Mix", which name could also appear on restaurant menues. The Pepsi version is called "Schwip Schwap". Sinalco simply calles it "Sinalco Cola Mix"; others have different names for it. In my region, it's called "Kalter Kaffee" (= cold coffee), propably because it's cold (haha) and the colouring resembles white coffee (coffee with milk).
Frankie1987
04-19-15, 17:44
Looking for some advice. Which of the usual Frankfurt area FKKs is best to find the most curvy girls? Looking for large natural breasts with very curvy bum and figure. The issue is reading many of the reports many of the girls are all the same. Tall, skinny with small breasts or fake. Age isn't so important say in 20's and 30's but my preference is at least a UK size 14. Any suggestions welcome for particular clubs with more natural girls.
Thanks
PussyLiccker
04-19-15, 19:11
In Baden-Baden, they propably call that a "Spezi" (pronounced "shpe-tsi" It's a very commen mixture in Germany, which is available under different names in different regions and is also available already mixed in supermarkets. The Coca-Cola version is called "Mezzo Mix", which name could also appear on restaurant menues. The Pepsi version is called "Schwip Schwap". Sinalco simply calles it "Sinalco Cola Mix"; others have different names for it. In my region, it's called "Kalter Kaffee" (= cold coffee), propably because it's cold (haha) and the colouring resembles white coffee (coffee with milk).I like Mezzo mix, it's pretty good. Dunno if any guys tried cola beer, thought it was unique one. I found it in the fridge at PHG with many other types of beer. I think there were some other exotic beer there, don't recall. GT had some other types of bottled beverage, don't recall the name. V+?
Hessen Bub
04-19-15, 19:20
http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biermischgetränk.
Beer is actually mixed with almost everything. Most common with lemonade (Radler or Alsterwasser), Coke, Grapefruit, apple juice (Tiroler Radler), banana juice or other juices. Quite a few of these ready mixed beer beverages are available in NRW clubs.
HB.
Looking for some advice. Which of the usual Frankfurt area FKKs is best to find the most curvy girls? Looking for large natural breasts with very curvy bum and figure. The issue is reading many of the reports many of the girls are all the same. Tall, skinny with small breasts or fake. Age isn't so important say in 20's and 30's but my preference is at least a UK size 14. Any suggestions welcome for particular clubs with more natural girls.
ThanksI don't understand uk sizing. I am guessing you want big. Sharks has skinny girls, medium girls, and a few very large girls.
Leya is slim but with very large natural tits. Angelika has big tits and a large ass to go with it. Winnie Jamaica has a big caboose and I guess big tits. Dalma is big. Pamela is beautiful maybe not big enough for you. Oase has a few plus sized asses.
Going to NRW this week and going to visit clubs on Wednesday and Saturday. I have some questions:
1) I read that GT may be crowded on Sat. So it is better to visit GT on Wed?
2) What club will be better for Sat? Aca or Oceans?
3) Is there any asian girls in NRW?
Many thanks!
PussyLiccker
04-21-15, 00:40
Going to NRW this week and going to visit clubs on Wednesday and Saturday. I have some questions:
1) I read that GT may be crowded on Sat. So it is better to visit GT on Wed?
2) What club will be better for Sat? Aca or Oceans?
3) Is there any asian girls in NRW?
Many thanks!GT has Thais. Magnum has couple not so attractive Asians from my perspective, but you may be wearing different glasses. Sat should have most girls, typically a crowded day. Wednesday should be less crowded. Can't predict the future all the time! Your choice.
Go to ACA.
Enjoy and report back. GT doesn't get much reports. It's out in the boondocks.
Banana Boi
04-21-15, 03:58
1) I read that GT may be crowded on Sat. So it is better to visit GT on Wed?
2) What club will be better for Sat? Aca or Oceans?
1, GT gets very crowded most Saturday nights. Option is to pop over to LR when GT gets busy for 35 euro entry (ask GT receptionist for discount card when you leave GT). LR will feel crowded too since it's such a small club. Wednesday is a much better option for GT if you want to spend the entire day there. GT is the best day time club. Only one in NRW that would give GT a run for it's money in the day would be Sixsens since girls come before 2 pm to get discounted entry just like the guys (40 euro entry before 2 pm make it a good afternoon club. Being in the middle of nowhere is a pain though).
2. ACA will have more girls but it will be very slow until 5-6 pm. Club open til 5 am so girls start later. Magnum and Samya would be other options for you for a Saturday night visit.
Faceless78
04-21-15, 04:39
1, GT gets very crowded most Saturday nights. Option is to pop over to LR when GT gets busy for 35 euro entry (ask GT receptionist for discount card when you leave GT). LR will feel crowded too since it's such a small club. Wednesday is a much better option for GT if you want to spend the entire day there. GT is the best day time club. Only one in NRW that would give GT a run for it's money in the day would be Sixsens since girls come before 2 pm to get discounted entry just like the guys (40 euro entry before 2 pm make it a good afternoon club. Being in the middle of nowhere is a pain though).
2. ACA will have more girls but it will be very slow until 5-6 pm. Club open til 5 am so girls start later. Magnum and Samya would be other options for you for a Saturday night visit.If it's on a slow day like Tuesday or Wednesday, is it worth to pay a visit to LR? Or better stay home?
My last visit to LR was 2 years ago, thinking of going back for a try but I only get this two possible free days.
PussyLiccker
04-21-15, 04:57
I haven't visited Six Sens recently so can't comment how much the place has improved over my last visit which was a while ago. Pros are nice facilities quality meals, and relaxing atmosphere. Cons were smaller lineup, half the ladies were a bit mature types, and far off from other clubs. That was Friday visit staying til evening until I bailed out. Found two girls attractive. A girl I was most interested in was fairly young and new, and didn't kiss. Other girl I took wasn't a great session. If it was closer to other club, I'd take give it more chances.
YY can compete with GT. Contrast to GT, much greater percentage of Romanians with few Germans, Hugarians, and Bugarians seen. I've run into girls of above average looks that provides good sessions every visit. Also former Magnum, GT, PHG, and ACA girls were seen. Lots of girls, but weekend night can be a huge sausage fest starting around 8. Better to get there around 4 before girls get busy. Wellness is one of the best, and buffet food quality is pretty good with variety. Tap beer included in the entry. Don't like how the club area is setup, not my type of ambiance. About half hour from GT in NL. Recently found out there is another area girls go. Down the stairs by the slot machine in the lounge where there is a Kino.
Banana Boi
04-21-15, 06:04
If it's on a slow day like Tuesday or Wednesday, is it worth to pay a visit to LR? Or better stay home?It's NEVER better to stay home!
I'm not the most experienced LR person on here by any means but I've been on both Tuesdays and Wednesdays and both nights can have 30-40 girls. Someone correct me if I'm way off here. I've never been in the day since I would spend the day at GT or Sixsens, LR at night.
I always find someone at LR. LR girls are pretty laid back. They will spend time with you before and after rooms, especially on a non-weekend night. Actually, they spend 1-2 hours with you pre-zimmer on a busy Saturday waiting for a room!
Cons were smaller lineup, half the ladies were a bit mature types, and far off from other clubs. That was Friday visit staying til evening until I bailed out. Found two girls attractive. A girl I was most interested in was fairly young and new, and didn't kiss. Other girl I took wasn't a great session. If it was closer to other club, I'd take give it more chances.
Sixsens does have a few older MILFs but on the other side of the coin they have a handful of very attractive young slim girls. In November, there were Ella, Erica, and the thin redhead one who hated me. lol. Then there's spinner Hungarian Nora. Supposedly my buddy Angie (PHG / YY) / Cora (LR) is there now as well. All these girls are solid 8's in my book. Girls are very laid back here. I've seen a few Oase girls here.
Last time I was there I fell asleep in one of the small rooms and was woken up by a girl given me a free BJ. Pretty sure stuff like that doesn't happen in most clubs. Most of the time they only give you a HJ to wake you up. She was decent looking too. She took the rejection well and slept beside me for 15 minutes before she decided she needed to make some money.
I wish Sixsens were closer as well. The food, layout, good sessions, rest rooms, etc. could easily make it my favorite club. Planet Eden would be the closest club 36 minutes away (YY 44 min, GT/LR/Samya all just under 1 hour).
I recommend reading another board where Sixsens and YY are VERY popular to decide if they're the right club choice. ISG reviews in the Netherlands section are limited.
Faceless78
04-21-15, 06:25
It's NEVER better to stay home!
I'm not the most experienced LR person on here by any means but I've been on both Tuesdays and Wednesdays and both nights can have 30-40 girls. Someone correct me if I'm way off here. I've never been in the day since I would spend the day at GT or Sixsens, LR at night.
I always find someone at LR. LR girls are pretty laid back. They will spend time with you before and after rooms, especially on a non-weekend night. Actually, they spend 1-2 hours with you pre-zimmer on a busy Saturday waiting for a room!.Thanks for answering my question at such a, eh, special time, 7 in the morning I mean.
Now I'm looking for train to Dus and hotel as well, and I'll look up few girls' names from LR's threads on the way there. If I make it work, report back tomorrow.
Was not able to find any live reports about new FKK Great Palace in Castrop-Rauxel. Can somebody provide input in addition to their official website info.
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