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RE: Foreigners from USA.
Once you factor is cost of Airfare / Hotel / Food for 3-5 days. Its costs exactly the same per Hour in USA as FKK.
Only benefit is legal liability and confidentiality.
In NYC / LA you can have 1 HR in your own home for $350-500 from Eros or any major escort service for same quality Gal as FKK.
Being in FKK club and seeing all nude 25-100 Gals is only novelty.Three days is probably too short of a stay for an American. Most seem to stay a minimum of five days thus giving them the opportunity to amortize the costs. And some men eat nothing except club food. In addition to legal liability and confidentiality, FKK provides a controlled environment (WG won't run off with your wallet wtc). Having a choice of 25-100 girls in one location also reduces the chances that you will succumb to bait and switch, because there are always backup options.
PussyLiccker
11-27-15, 11:34
I like the insurance of several clubs around me. That's the charm of NRW. To extent Hessen.
De lots of assurance for sure. What I get for my money, reduction of scams(no really scams). Its controoled, yes. Heaps of clubs, European girl choices. It's nice.
Banana Boi
11-27-15, 22:38
RE: Foreigners from USA.
Once you factor is cost of Airfare / Hotel / Food for 3-5 days. Its costs exactly the same per Hour in USA as FKK.
In NYC / LA you can have 1 HR in your own home for $350-500 from Eros or any major escort service for same quality Gal as FKK.Depends how many hours you spend in rooms per day. On average I spend 3-4 hours per day in rooms which make FKK much cheaper. The bigger factor to me is you don't get to meet an escort before committing and, on most occasions, you don't get to hang out with the escort when your time is up like you would with a FKK girl.
RE: Foreigners from USA.
Once you factor is cost of Airfare / Hotel / Food for 3-5 days. Its costs exactly the same per Hour in USA as FKK.
Only benefit is legal liability and confidentiality.
In NYC / LA you can have 1 HR in your own home for $350-500 from Eros or any major escort service for same quality Gal as FKK.
Being in FKK club and seeing all nude 25-100 Gals is only novelty.Do these escort girls normally also offer DFK and BBBJ for this price?
Member #4581
11-28-15, 19:44
US is fraught with several negatives. First, the legal issue can't be given short shrift. Spitzer lost his NY governor job, even though he was using very high end escorts and used very elaborate schemes to avoid detection. Last week senator Vitter lost his race in Louisiana. Happened on opposite sides of political spectrum, one in the north and the other in deep South. If caught, even if let off with a slap on the wrist, can stay on your record, and if employer finds out, could be fired. Not to mention severe social stigma, friends and family etc. Legal in Nevada, may be a few other places? Otherwise, you are taking a very big, and in my view unnecessary risk, especially when you can spend a few hundred dollars and fly to Germany or elsewhere.
Even if somehow get past the legal issue, you don't get to see the girl until after paying, and they are heavily photoshopped. Around here, people complain dessous day is a minefield because you don't get to check out the goods before consumption - imagine how it is to take a girl off a photo which could be from 15 years ago.
And finally the pricing is not even in the same ball park. For 50 euros, which is less than $60 now, you know what you get at Sharks, and you get officially 2 lap dances at an average strip club, lasting less than 8 minutes. A girl comparable to Janine or Aurelia, just by virtue of looks, can charge several hundreds an hour, and there is no guarantee that the escort is any less of a starfish.
The best thing about FKK is the ambience. Even after a session is finished, you take a shower and the mood comes back with a hundred naked chicks. I would not call it a one time novelty. Guys get up for a second, third and even fourth time because of the ambience. With an escort, that's not possible. In fact, very few people engage two separate escorts, in a span of a couple of hours, especially if they have to come to your room.
If you have money in the US, can have sex legally by making your own porn. Used to be, you got paid by the producer. Now, several guys making their own pov porn. Perfectly legal, and very hot chicks. Can get every type of service - rimming, extreme BLS, multiple chicks, rough sex; indulge in your every fantasy. Obviously, public sex, LOL. I guess our courts view that paid sex is fine if it is a job for the guy, but not legal if it is for personal pleasure. Never let it be said we are not hypocritical.
Wolvenvacht
11-29-15, 09:12
If you have money in the US, can have sex legally by making your own porn. Used to be, you got paid by the producer. Now, several guys making their own pov porn. Perfectly legal, and very hot chicks. Can get every type of service - rimming, extreme BLS, multiple chicks, rough sex; indulge in your every fantasy. Obviously, public sex, LOL. I guess our courts view that paid sex is fine if it is a job for the guy, but not legal if it is for personal pleasure. Never let it be said we are not hypocritical.I remember that in Las Vegas (where prostitution is illegal), the girls would come to your hotel room and carried a copy of a Supreme Court decicion which held that "nude dancing" was a form of "free speech".
So making your own porn movie is nothing more than using your constitutional right of free speech.
If you have money in the US, can have sex legally by making your own porn.
I've never thought of this. How big does the distribution have to be? Of course, it is absurd that one is legal and one is not, but pressing the point might make the production of porn illegal as well. Still, strange: Paying for sex is illegal, for both parties, but porn is legal, where (presumably) both parties are paid by the producer. But if one is the producer oneself, and also acts, then one pays just the other party, which is essentially prostitution, but distribution makes it legal. Strange.
About 35 years ago, I remember an interview with an entrepreneur, essentially a pimp, on the Phil Donahue show. He ran an escort service. Price: $69, of which he collected $!9 for his fee and the girl kept $50. He did this quite openly and was asked why he had no legal problems. His explanation: technically he organizes nude models, and technically the model is raped by the client. Since there is no law saying that [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) has to be reported, he had no legal issues.
And finally the pricing is not even in the same ball park. For 50 euros, which is less than $60 now, you know what you get at Sharks, and you get officially 2 lap dances at an average strip club, lasting less than 8 minutes. A girl comparable to Janine or Aurelia, just by virtue of looks, can charge several hundreds an hour, and there is no guarantee that the escort is any less of a starfish.
The best thing about FKK is the ambience. Even after a session is finished, you take a shower and the mood comes back with a hundred naked chicks. I would not call it a one time novelty. Guys get up for a second, third and even fourth time because of the ambience. With an escort, that's not possible. In fact, very few people engage two separate escorts, in a span of a couple of hours, especially if they have to come to your room.Long time ago, I visited clubs in Miami, Vegas, San Francisco where you can have sex, even illegal, with girls. I also visited clubs in Spain or in Prague, Moscow, St Petersburg. Never met pretty girls like in FKK, Aurelia, Francesca, in US and it was more expensive = more than 200 dollars for 1 hour. Can meet pretty girls in Prague, Russia or Spain, but lower services, not often BBBJ, nor really kissing, and more expensive. Only 1 night = 9 hours, with blond Siberian Olga for 400 dollars was unforgettable in St Petersburg, with kissing all night and much more. Unfortunately, she could stay all day, but not next night, before I left.
Pretty escorts in western Europe are about 200/300 €/ hour. At Samya, you can have Valentina for 75/ h, at Aca, you can have real beauties for 80/ h. Usually rate is 50/30 mn in big clubs with BBBJ, kissing and DATY should be included and sex. We are lucky to have so many pretty Romanian girls in FKK to get low rate.
FKK are German quality like Porsche 911 turbo 4's improved, to beat Porsche pilots for speed.
Member #4581
11-29-15, 16:19
I am no lawyer, and if one is seriously thinking about this, they should definitely get some legal counsel. But I think production is the one which is local, legally bound, and needs caution. So, most of the production is done in safe locales like San Fernando valley. This is true for big production houses anyway. For mom and pop production, doing from basement, who knows. Good to know the local law. And it depends on if the local authorities decide to prosecute based on any local rules; most local prospectors are too busy with other things to care about this, but every once in a while some overzealous bible thumper decides to do something and you could be in his cross hairs.
I think distribution hardly matters. Packaged dvd is almost passe' now. If your production and video quality sucks, server and connection sucks, and no one can or want to watch, can the courts dictate you should do something about it? Big houses have subscribers, and large free sites show up high on google search. If have neither, in fact if you never even host it on a public server, can there be rules about it?
Producer / star is quite common now. Years ago, dried up stars like John Leslie, Stagliano or Paul Thomas got into production. But since online became dominant, so many producers are also exclusive stars I. E. Don't employ others. Too many to list. Even girls are getting into it. Annika Arbite won some new starlet award just a year ago, and on evil angel I see her listed as a director. Almost all male stars now are directors, and many or most have own sites where they host exclusive content of themselves.
I've never thought of this. How big does the distribution have to be? Of course, it is absurd that one is legal and one is not, but pressing the point might make the production of porn illegal as well. Still, strange: Paying for sex is illegal, for both parties, but porn is legal, where (presumably) both parties are paid by the producer. But if one is the producer oneself, and also acts, then one pays just the other party, which is essentially prostitution, but distribution makes it legal. Strange.
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And finally the pricing is not even in the same ball park. For 50 euros, which is less than $60 now, you know what you get at Sharks, and you get officially 2 lap dances at an average strip club, lasting less than 8 minutes. A girl comparable to Janine or Aurelia, just by virtue of looks, can charge several hundreds an hour, and there is no guarantee that the escort is any less of a starfish.
The best thing about FKK is the ambience. Even after a session is finished, you take a shower and the mood comes back with a hundred naked chicks. I would not call it a one time novelty. Guys get up for a second, third and even fourth time because of the ambience. With an escort, that's not possible. In fact, very few people engage two separate escorts, in a span of a couple of hours, especially if they have to come to your room.
Cost is the factor, add in what it costs to get from the US to Europe, transportation and hotels etc. All that adds up on the hourly rate when you've just spent $2000 to get there and back. What's 'the average' travel expenses involved in the hobby? Question is for everyone.
I can drive to Montreal and an hour with an escort will run me anywhere from $135 to $160 usd, extra's are usually included in that price. An hour with a FKK girl will run me $106 usd but if I take CIM that puts it on par with the Montreal rate. Germany rules though when it comes to half hour rates, you can do 3 girls vs 1 in Montreal. And the one fee club entrance is lower than having to go out to eat and drink and party it up in Montreal. You don't need to visit a stripclub after sex in Germany because your basically in a stripclub already.
I know Russian escorts who work in Boston and sometimes NYC with regulars.
Cost is the factor, add in what it costs to get from the US to Europe, transportation and hotels etc. All that adds up on the hourly rate when you've just spent $2000 to get there and back. What's 'the average' travel expenses involved in the hobby? Question is for everyone.
I can drive to Montreal and an hour with an escort will run me anywhere from $135 to $160 usd, extra's are usually included in that price. An hour with a FKK girl will run me $106 usd but if I take CIM that puts it on par with the Montreal rate. Germany rules though when it comes to half hour rates, you can do 3 girls vs 1 in Montreal. And the one fee club entrance is lower than having to go out to eat and drink and party it up in Montreal. You don't need to visit a stripclub after sex in Germany because your basically in a stripclub already.Being in the UK suits me perfectly. FKK land is close enough that my round trip including hotels is only see. 200 GBP and a few hours, but it's far enough away that I don't get hooked. If I was in the US, I am not sure that I could justify the time and expense of visiting more than once or twice a year. Of course that is based on my own conscience, financial and family circumstances.
I want to try Asia next year, so that might be more comparable, but I guess that I will always have the option of Germany.
Prior to FKK, I used to regularly use escorts. UK is now a no-P4 P zone for me, so life seems less complicated.
Member #4581
11-29-15, 20:53
keep in mind, even in the US you may incur travel expenses unless you live in a place where high quality escorts will come to your house, and you don't have a problem hosting them at your house. Otherwise, you still need to spend on travel and hotel inside the US too. But say, the net additional cost (travel, hotel, whatever else) is 2 grand. Depends on how many sessions it is amortized, and what is the cost differential. If it is 100 a hour in the FKK and 300 for a comparable escort, it takes 10 sessions to break even. But then again, how does a break even analysis account for the off chance you could be caught and face legal and work problems in the US?
For those going to Europe on business, if can take a few days off, flight is paid for. If not, add an extra 1000 to 1400, depending on when / where. For many married men, more than cost, it is the inability to discretely take off and be gone for days, which is a big problem. For single men, no such issues, and they also can spend freely w / o having to explain how a few thousand dollars disappeared from the savings account, LOL.
Cost is the factor, add in what it costs to get from the US to Europe, transportation and hotels etc. All that adds up on the hourly rate when you've just spent $2000 to get there and back. What's 'the average' travel expenses involved in the hobby? Question is for everyone.
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I've never thought of this. How big does the distribution have to be? Of course, it is absurd that one is legal and one is not, but pressing the point might make the production of porn illegal as well. Still, strange: Paying for sex is illegal, for both parties, but porn is legal, where (presumably) both parties are paid by the producer.If I were a vicious judge I would argue that if your cock is not a porn actor's cock, you're cheating and you're not doing porn. If your cock is too small you go to jail, how's that for social justice?
Then again, maybe to really pass as porn you need to market the product or be registered as a porn producer (and pay taxes as a porn producer) or you must have at least a male actor (yourself) plus a producer who must be present. I'm sure it's not as easy as calling a couple of girls and having a camera running on a tripod while you're fucking them. It cannot be that simple otherwise everybody would do it. On the other hand, the glut of cheap porn in the US may be caused by the prostitution ban. Talk of unexpected consequences.
I have FKK trip, will Visit Aca, Sharks and Oase.
I might have the chance to do 6 days at FKK "maybe".
2 days at Dusseldorf- 4 days at Frankfurt.
I like the clubs mentioned above so I might repeat them, I need some opinion here: is it better to see other clubs or repeat the best club!! What do you think.
What other clubs should I try?
keep in mind, even in the US you may incur travel expenses unless you live in a place where high quality escorts will come to your house, and you don't have a problem hosting them at your house. Otherwise, you still need to spend on travel and hotel inside the US too. But say, the net additional cost (travel, hotel, whatever else) is 2 grand. Depends on how many sessions it is amortized, and what is the cost differential. If it is 100 a hour in the FKK and 300 for a comparable escort, it takes 10 sessions to break even. But then again, how does a break even analysis account for the off chance you could be caught and face legal and work problems in the US?
For those going to Europe on business, if can take a few days off, flight is paid for. If not, add an extra 1000 to 1400, depending on when / where. For many married men, more than cost, it is the inability to discretely take off and be gone for days, which is a big problem. For single men, no such issues, and they also can spend freely w / o having to explain how a few thousand dollars disappeared from the savings account, LOL.Moving this discussion over to the Lounge.
Wolvenvacht
11-29-15, 22:05
I've never thought of this. How big does the distribution have to be? Of course, it is absurd that one is legal and one is not, but pressing the point might make the production of porn illegal as well. Still, strange: Paying for sex is illegal, for both parties, but porn is legal, where (presumably) both parties are paid by the producer. But if one is the producer oneself, and also acts, then one pays just the other party, which is essentially prostitution, but distribution makes it legal. Strange.
As far as I know, distribution is not part of the equation. You are exercising your right to free speech, whether you actually publish your work of art is not relevant.
Trans Atlantic
12-07-15, 03:34
Cost is the factor, add in what it costs to get from the US to Europe, transportation and hotels etc. All that adds up on the hourly rate when you've just spent $2000 to get there and back. What's 'the average' travel expenses involved in the hobby? Question is for everyone.
I can drive to Montreal and an hour with an escort will run me anywhere from $135 to $160 usd, extra's are usually included in that price. An hour with a FKK girl will run me $106 usd but if I take CIM that puts it on par with the Montreal rate. Germany rules though when it comes to half hour rates, you can do 3 girls vs 1 in Montreal. And the one fee club entrance is lower than having to go out to eat and drink and party it up in Montreal. You don't need to visit a stripclub after sex in Germany because your basically in a stripclub already.Isn't this illegal in Canada? That's also a factor for some of us that may have to cross the border for business.
Banana Boi
12-07-15, 04:18
Isn't this illegal in Canada? That's also a factor for some of us that may have to cross the border for business.It's a Federal law but I believe they've let the provinces uphold the law as they wish. I may be wrong but I don't believe a regular john has been charged in Ontario or Quebec since C-36. It hasn't affected how anyone hobbies in Ontario and Quebec. I think if it were up to Justin Trudeau he'd abolish the Bill but right now he's too busy trying to legalize marijuana first.
To be safe, I'd stick with the main agencies and MP's with good reputations (ie. no minors or traficking, etc.). Backpage girls are more high risk for obvious reasons.
Smoky Jack
12-07-15, 19:52
Depends how many hours you spend in rooms per day. On average I spend 3-4 hours per day in rooms which make FKK much cheaper. The bigger factor to me is you don't get to meet an escort before committing and, on most occasions, you don't get to hang out with the escort when your time is up like you would with a FKK girl.The ability to scope out girls in their "habitat" is important for me. I was reminded of this when I visited a brothel in Frankfurt and they only had a few girls available. So either you pick or walk. But I was already there so I went with it. It is very important to have time to choose a girl, at least for me. HK club in Tijuana is great for this also. I will have to get back down there one of these days.
I consistently heard from ACA girls that they undergo twice a month club mandated health checks. But I had conflicting info from girls from other clubs.
Could any of the forum experts list the clubs with club mandated health checks?
ClydeTheGlide
12-19-15, 05:00
I know the timing is not ideal, but I'm looking at a 11 hour layover in FRA on 3 January. Yes, I know it's a Sunday afternoon. And yes, I know the lineups are likely to be depleted around the holidays.
That said, anyone have a suggestion on my best option? I'm OK renting a car (Oase), or taking the train (Palace, Mainhattan), or taking the bus to Darmstadt (Sharks). Any ideas on which would have a semi-decent lineup on that date?
I consistently heard from ACA girls that they undergo twice a month club mandated health checks. But I had conflicting info from girls from other clubs.
Could any of the forum experts list the clubs with club mandated health checks?You never know what is true, but Globe (CH), FKK van Goch (D) and LaLuna (D) claim to do regular STD tests and have the results "on file". Probably (hopefully) more clubs do this, and it should be strongly recommended mongers do this as well regularly!
I consistently heard from ACA girls that they undergo twice a month club mandated health checks. But I had conflicting info from girls from other clubs.
Could any of the forum experts list the clubs with club mandated health checks?I was in Finca Erotica on Thursday. First room I was in had what looked like a large dentists chair covered in a large cloth. I made a joke about the chair & asked if it was for some deviant sexual games but the girl said it is the chair the doctor uses every three weeks when he comes in to do checks on the girls.
Vito Corleone
12-19-15, 14:17
I consistently heard from ACA girls that they undergo twice a month club mandated health checks. But I had conflicting info from girls from other clubs.
Could any of the forum experts list the clubs with club mandated health checks?The RTC clubs also have regular check ups. This info not from pillow talk but actually been in the clubs when the doctor arrives.
Hello all,
I have a 36 hour stopover at Paris on Tuesday. A city I have visited many times and so have no need to see again. Rather than hole myself up in a Paris hotel and given the dismal mongering scene in Paris, I am toying with the idea of taking a flight to Frankfurt, hit a club, stay there until closing time and go to Frankfurt Airport for the first flight back to Paris. With this plan, I wouldn't need a hotel in Frankfurt. Question, do any of the clubs allow you to leave your suitcase at reception? My order of preference would be Oase, Palace and Sharks but suitcase holding facilities might get the nod!
Thanks in advance.
Hessen Bub
12-20-15, 00:26
All three clubs will store you suitcase. You could also store it at the airport.
HB.
Banana Boi
12-20-15, 01:21
I have a 36 hour stopover at Paris on Tuesday.
Luggage storage at Paris airport. http://easycdg.com/airport-guide/baggage-storage/
Renting a car in Frankfurt also eliminates luggage issue.
Not implying FKK Paradise is better than The Hessen clubs but another option from Paris is a 2 hour ICE trip to Saarbrucken. Paradise is about 5 km away from Saarbrucken hbf.
http://www.fkkparadise.com/
Anyone been here lately?
How busy do you guys think these clubs will be around New Years? I'm assuming a lot of girls will be gone, but will they be worth a visit anyway?
UltraHappy
12-20-15, 19:38
How busy do you guys think these clubs will be around New Years? I'm assuming a lot of girls will be gone, but will they be worth a visit anyway?If you are there to bang girls, it's a pretty bad night, unless you happen to get there early enough before the crowds of men arrive. Once all the crowds of men arrive, the room prices will double for most of the night because there are so many men per girl that night and unless you've pre-booked your girl for midnight, you'll likely be left with no one except the other men to kiss when the ball drops at midnight.
Last year, I attended Oase right after New Year's and while the line-up was down, I can report that I was still quite happy with the line-up and I had plenty of acceptable options for the days immediately following New Year's.
How busy do you guys think these clubs will be around New Years? I'm assuming a lot of girls will be gone, but will they be worth a visit anyway?I was at Sharks the day before the Sylvester party last year. A lot of Sharks girls stay for that. The lineup just kept on improving all night and it was my best night at a FKK as there wasn't that many guys so I could pick quite freely.
Luggage storage at Paris airport. http://easycdg.com/airport-guide/baggage-storage/
Renting a car in Frankfurt also eliminates luggage issue.
Not implying FKK Paradise is better than The Hessen clubs but another option from Paris is a 2 hour ICE trip to Saarbrucken. Paradise is about 5 km away from Saarbrucken hbf.
http://www.fkkparadise.com/
Anyone been here lately?Thanks (and to HB). Now that is an interesting option. I was paranoid about missing my onward flight from CDG on Wednesday in case there was a delay in FRA but will look into this possibility.
Hi guys,
I left Europe / Germany in early September right before the wave of migrants / refugees started pouring in.
Just wondering if any of it has affected the FKKs in Germany or is it pretty much business as usual?
Vito Corleone
12-30-15, 03:06
Hi guys,
I left Europe / Germany in early September right before the wave of migrants / refugees started pouring in.
Just wondering if any of it has affected the FKKs in Germany or is it pretty much business as usual?Yes it has. It's turned forum members into thin skinned wuss' that want to talk about their feelings & hold each other's hand.
From my experience, Oase last year with entry 100 , Harmony Hamburg this year 65 , can ask how was Samya for 99 = just a gay club yesterday, better to avoid FKK Sylvester and also 1 January. Only a few girls who had not work enough during year, only worth to eat and for free alcohols, not for good rooms. Last good Sylvester was on end of 2012 at Aca, but other time, so low casting today.
Really need snow in mountains to have real fun for Christmas and Sylvester. Better to go in FKK out of party, on empty times, when good girls are free and fresh.
PussyLiccker
01-02-16, 08:26
From my experience, Oase last year with entry 100 , Harmony Hamburg this year 65 , can ask how was Samya for 99 = just a gay club yesterday, better to avoid FKK Sylvester and also 1 January. Only a few girls who had not work enough during year, only worth to eat and for free alcohols, not for good rooms. Last good Sylvester was on end of 2012 at Aca, but other time, so low casting today.LOL. Silvester should be pretty gay everywhere. Not a good time to visit. You can get lucky with some girls that show up from other places or start around the time.
My first series of visits to Aca was 2012 winter, and was there for the Sylvester, was pretty impressed with the LU. Do you recall a pretty Ro blond, blue eyes that sat in the corner where the Hungarians presently sit? Hard to describe, but she had sort springy curls to her hair. Probably the most memorable girl at Aca. Very pretty. Forget her name. I recall there were so many men divided like the red sea on the path where girls would walk toward the bar to return the key. This girl would go in and out all night. Lots of girls would since the place was packed full of guys.
I remember small, German blond Anjelina, now at GT, was there on 31 December 2012 , sitting at the bar. More tattoos now on her.
Wolvenvacht
01-02-16, 09:18
Hi guys,
I left Europe / Germany in early September right before the wave of migrants / refugees started pouring in.
Just wondering if any of it has affected the FKKs in Germany or is it pretty much business as usual?Sure, the majority of the Syrian refuges have fled their home country to start a career in FKK and return home rich.
Hi guys,
I left Europe / Germany in early September right before the wave of migrants / refugees started pouring in.
Just wondering if any of it has affected the FKKs in Germany or is it pretty much business as usual?Pain in the ass trying to check out the girls bodies when they are wearing burka's.
Pain in the ass trying to check out the girls bodies when they are wearing burka's.😆.
Reminds me of the man from Saudi Arabia who claimed that women shouldn't be seen in public as he could imagine what was underneath the burka. He was not joking.
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Reminds me of the man from Saudi Arabia who claimed that women shouldn't be seen in public as he could imagine what was underneath the burka. He was not joking.Even Arabian not really my type, too far from Siberian, but sometimes very sexy with very hot behavior and great skill for sensuality, Sheherazade hidden, maybe my best BBBJ / swallowing without asking for, but she knew sex would be too dangerous for her life, so only fingers, but so wet and sensitive, bed can t forget. Pleasure may have been increased because forbidden, because of danger. Also different sexuality than with a family chosen husband.
Wolvenvacht
01-03-16, 14:20
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Reminds me of the man from Saudi Arabia who claimed that women shouldn't be seen in public as he could imagine what was underneath the burka. He was not joking.Well, he'd know what they are wearing underneath. Maybe they *only* wear he burka and nothing else.
Last Saturday at LR, I noticed a very pretty brunette Natali. De. Like on the day when Mio. De arrived at GT on end of May, regulars didn't dare to try, so who had balls to jump in the void once more, but Natali said me she wanted we go to room with her blond, but not pretty friend who speaks English, but I never go with 2 girls because I have only 1 dick. I felt she was not comfortable, because her first day and she couldn't speak with me, so I let her, like I did with Janine when she arrived at Sharks on summer 2014 . I m surprised some German girls are not able to speak foreign languages and feel uncomfortable when not able to chat. I met Romanian girls who didn't speak English, but we had no problem to speak "sexuality" . Romanian girls seem more open mind, not only more sensual.
Hessen Bub
01-07-16, 08:35
I m surprised some German girls are not able to speak foreign languages Well, we have French members not speaking English.
HB.
Well, we have French members not speaking English.
HB.Those who are not afraid to meet me, know I can manage to speak English. Some German girls like Sandra speak English and even a few French words for me, but some don t seem to learn foreign languages at school and don t seem to be able to play "sexual" language. Maybe because it was her first day, so will see next week end for Natali, but I never force, there are too many other exceptional girls to discover in FKK and at LR, like Arina, or repeat as promised Larissa. Ro who knows all sexual language.
I'm surprised some German girls are not able to speak foreign languages and feel uncomfortable when not able to chat.Why? It is their own country. English is still far from a universal language (although it almost is in FKK) A good chance to practice some German. If a girl wants to talk I always take it as a good sign.
PussyLiccker
01-07-16, 15:34
Some Germans will tell me, "my English is not so good. " I hear this from Germans in general (WG or not), and English is on a good communicative level. Better than they think. Oh yes, like Optimist says, they are in Germany. Haha. I feel lucky that lots of them speak English, and well at that. There are a the odd ones that speak very little, or none at all. Supposedly, not so common with the younger generation, but apparently happens on rare occasions.
Why? It is their own country. English is still far from a universal language (although it almost is in FKK) A good chance to practice some German. If a girl wants to talk I always take it as a good sign.Optimist, I remember growing up and me and my classmates being generally chastised by teachers because most of us didn't speak a second language. Well now I can travel to Europe and I realize that France and Germany are akin to Georgia and Alabama (wouldn't it be cool if they spoke french in Alabama? At any rate I can drive in most any direction for several days and everybody is going to speak English. So it is totally different here than in Europe.
But moreover, if you want to fly airplanes, you must speak English.
If you want to professionally drive boats, you must speak English.
If you want to conduct big business, you must speak English.
If you are from Norway and want to talk about girls with a German, or a Frenchman, you are going to speak English.
It is hard to argue that English is not the Earth's language.
I don't know whether I am just behind the times, but I recently ran across chaturbate. This morning, I was watching a young Dutch girl doing an entertaining little show, and I got to wondering if she might be a wondow girl, and that made me further wonder if any FKK girls do Chaturbate. Seems like an appropriate part time endeavor for an FKK girl.
Katinka. Of course as you say English is the world language. I simply said it was not universal. Go into the back country or poorer areas in most countries (excepting the Northeast European ones) and English is not much use. On a recent trip in Spain more people spoke German than English (I guess they had worked in Germany).
Katinka. Of course as you say English is the world language. I simply said it was not universal. Go into the back country or poorer areas in most countries (excepting the Northeast European ones) and English is not much use. On a recent trip in Spain more people spoke German than English (I guess they had worked in Germany).You know, that is one reason that I am impressed with the girls from Romania who speak english. I wouldn't have thought that such a poor country would focus on english.
I find the further south you go the less English is spoken. Berlin, everybody speaks english (oh there might be an older cabbie who can't carry conversation, but you know what I mean). You get down to Munich and you get much less English (and I dare say a tinge of hostility). You get down to Vienna, and there is palpable english hostility (or is it my imagination?
Citizen Kane
01-07-16, 20:43
You get down to Munich and you get much less EnglishIt's barely even German.
Berlin, everybody speaks english (oh there might be an older cabbie who can't carry conversation, but you know what I mean). I wouldn't agree with this. I have a number of German colleagues that do not speak English. I am talking about people in their thirties with post-secondary education.
I wouldn't agree with this. I have a number of German colleagues that do not speak English. I am talking about people in their thirties with post-secondary education.Well that is very surprising, but, of course, most people that I am interacting with, are in the hospitality industry in one capacity or another. I guess that makes a big difference.
SwingerLover
01-07-16, 21:37
I m surprised some German girls are not able to speak foreign languages
I wouldn't agree with this. I have a number of German colleagues that do not speak English. I am talking about people in their thirties with post-secondary education.Let's keep one thing in mind here: Until the early 90's, English was not the primary foreign language that was taught at school in the region formerly referred to as "German Democratic Republic". The kids there were taught Russian, and English was a voluntary option (if available at all).
From then on, the youth was taught English, like their counterparts in the west had been for decades. But that doesn't automatically give both sides enough practice to actually speak English fluently. And I also don't think that you will find that many brainiacs among the working girls, some might not even have a decent school graduation. So I think it's pretty snobbish to expect every girl to speak English.
You know, that is one reason that I am impressed with the girls from Romania who speak english. I wouldn't have thought that such a poor country would focus on english.I have had enough parties with ROMs and BULGs to find out one thing: Romanians tend to speak English, whereas Bulgarians rather speak Turkish as a second language.
Why? It is their own country. English is still far from a universal language (although it almost is in FKK) A good chance to practice some German. If a girl wants to talk I always take it as a good sign.Of course Natali is in her country and I'm a foreigner for her, but she didn't work because only wanted to go to room with her friend who speaks English. She smiled to me before I went to her, she smiled to me when I went to her, until she understood I don't speak German and then answered me she wanted to go in room with her friend. So pretty face, so beautiful smile, I would have been proud to be her first man of the day, bad luck, but 2 top GFE Romanian girls made my night. Wait and see this week end, just surprised some German girls don't learn English at school when most of Romanian girls manage to speak English. I experienced the same with Janine at Sharks on September 2014.
Let's keep one thing in mind here: Until the early 90's, English was not the primary foreign language that was taught at school in the region formerly referred to as "German Democratic Republic". The kids there were taught Russian, and English was a voluntary option (if available at all).
From then on, the youth was taught English, like their counterparts in the west had been for decades. But that doesn't automatically give both sides enough practice to actually speak English fluently. And I also don't think that you will find that many brainiacs among the working girls, some might not even have a decent school graduation. So I think it's pretty snobbish to expect every girl to speak English.
I have had enough parties with ROMs and BULGs to find out one thing: Romanians tend to speak English, whereas Bulgarians rather speak Turkish as a second language.DDR, CCCP died 25 years ago, then no more game with brown bears in Kamtchatka, was funnier than to watch US. Natali or Janine were not born on this other time, other world, I don't think they learned Russian at school. Most of Germans, not only young, speak English, better than Russian or French people. In FKK, girls say me I speak good English for a French. Romanian girls who don't speak English are able to speak sexual language, Germans girls don't seem to be able, maybe not woman enough, just robot speaking native language. Just why, out of a few like Rachel, Liz, Anna, Jacqueline and Sandra, I prefer Romanian girls, more sensual, more sexy.
Vito Corleone
01-08-16, 11:53
Germans girls don't seem to be able, maybe not woman enough, just robot speaking native language. Just why, out of a few like Rachel, Liz, Anna, Jacqueline and Sandra, I prefer Romanian girls, more sensual, more sexy.Maybe they do not understand your special ed English skills. I've met many German girls that spoke very good English very sensual & very sexy!
Hessen Bub
01-08-16, 13:59
Go to France and Italy and you will be surprised how little English they speak or are willing to speak. I've seen plenty of Italians, French, Japanese, Chinese, Korean guys at the clubs barely speaking any English word. Or understanding English. Italians just start talking and assume the German bar girl will understand. She doesn't. You will find a lot of Eastern German people in their 40's and 50's not speaking English as they grew up learning Russian. Different world.
HB.
Go to France
little English they speak or are willing to speak
Different world.
HB.Why do you want I go to France, no more attractive Russian escorts in Paris, no FKK. I go to FKK to practice my English with German girls, but they are as bad as French. Out of FKK, Germans speak quite well English.
Hessen Bub
01-08-16, 15:20
Why do you want I go to France, no more attractive Russian escorts in Paris, no FKK. There's a whole world outside FKK clubs and PaySex.
HB.
There's a whole world outside FKK clubs and PaySex.
HB.But in Paris, only museums or classical theaters, no bullshit or actor studio theaters like FKK.
DDR, CCCP died 25 years ago, then no more game with brown bears in Kamtchatka, was funnier than to watch US.Yep preferring brown bear watching at Kamtchatka instead of Brooks Falls, McNeil River or Kodiak (all Alaska) is same like preferring clubbing at Acapulco instead of Sharks, Mainhattan or Oase. LOL.
Member #4581
01-08-16, 20:52
I have no idea how they get by. Not in the club per se, but outside, in Frankfurt, in the airports, shops, restaurants, tourist spots, etc etc.
Personally, I would be pretty apprehensive traveling to anyplace where the general population spoke little or no English. Even in some developed Asian countries like Japan or Taiwan, travel is a bi&h once you go away from the beaten path and having to converse with anyone not speaking a word of English.
Go to France and Italy and you will be surprised how little English they speak or are willing to speak. I've seen plenty of Italians, French, Japanese, Chinese, Korean guys at the clubs barely speaking any English word. Or understanding English. Italians just start talking and assume the German bar girl will understand. She doesn't. You will find a lot of Eastern German people in their 40's and 50's not speaking English as they grew up learning Russian. Different world.
HB.
Yep preferring brown bear watching at Kamtchatka instead of Brooks Falls, McNeil River or Kodiak (all Alaska) is same like preferring clubbing at Acapulco instead of Sharks, Mainhattan or Oase. LOL.Have you really seen Kate, Lora, Emily, Barbara, Jaylon, Misha, Nicoletta? Find me same beauties at Oase or Mainhattan or GT or Samya or World or even Sharks. Same for brown little bears, try to stay alive as long as possible playing fighting with Kodiak or Grizzly, brown bears are playful like some WG.
Silverado27
01-08-16, 22:06
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt and Dusseldorf in a couple of weeks and I understand that Uber is currently banned in these cities. I generally prefer using Uber to cabs and was wondering if this is actually the present situation? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Banana Boi
01-08-16, 22:47
There's a whole world outside FKK clubs and PaySex.
Siri would have to be dateable first!
Vito Corleone
01-09-16, 03:19
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt and Dusseldorf in a couple of weeks and I understand that Uber is currently banned in these cities. I generally prefer using Uber to cabs and was wondering if this is actually the present situation? Any info would be appreciated.
ThanksRickshaw is a good option. Great way to see the city.
PussyLiccker
01-09-16, 04:43
Personally, I would be pretty apprehensive traveling to anyplace where the general population spoke little or no English. Even in some developed Asian countries like Japan or Taiwan, travel is a bi&h once you go away from the beaten path and having to converse with anyone not speaking a word of English.I reported about my experiences in Madrid, Spain. I've met WGs speak no English. I got lost even with GPS, and I didn't run into English speaking folks. The hotel I was staying at, the receptionist could speak barely.
From the start when I first visited DE, there will be somebody around that will speak English that would help me. It seems so common in DE.
DE is tourist friendly. A cute DE girl offering me change when the machine doesn't accept change. Another cute DE girl wanting to help me out how to get around places as a first timer. I appreciate the cute DE girls. Haha. People willing to help out, and English skills are good. When in Berlin, English speaking folks help me out when Going from Tegal to train stops. Lots of happy DE folks in clubs too (who isn't happy in the club), lots of older folks speak English well too.
One time I lodged in a small town middle of nowhere. I arrived early, and the door was close. A little boy on a bike came to help, it was cute. Haha.
I've met some down to earth DE girls at clubs, and tend to hold up conversations well. It was difficult to commonicate with Janine since she didn't speak English well, and perhaps not so talkative either. She's like 1 of 2 girls that I've been with that speaks minimal. Meike DE ex-DV, now GT, very down to earth when talkin. Same for Sophie DE, a part timer at DV, and many others. There are many types of DE girls out there. Lots of them seem to be immigrants like Turkish, half Turkish, Balkan(Serbian, Bosnian), Morrocan, Polish, Russian, and etc.
Maybe they do not understand your special ed English skills. I've met many German girls that spoke very good English very sensual & very sexy!Out of one, girls in FKK say me I speak a good English for a french. Of course, many German WG speak English and Jaqueline Aca / Alexandra DV liked to speak in French, Sandra at Sharks seduced me with her smile and French words with her little voice, before seducing me with her freshness in room and I repeated many times. I just wrote I was disappointed to feel Natali was afraid to go alone, not only with me, even I was the first to dare, because she couldn't chat with me, I could have managed without chatting about economy and politic, only speaking with eyes, hands and Godzilla.
Very good thing at LR, Romanian girls, small Claudia, Larissa, small Sofia, don t know words: too big, no restriction for sex. Godzilla free and happy.
Fellow ISGers,
New year greetings. I can't thank enough about the longtime active posters who share a wealth of information.
I have been to Germany. I have found Germany to be a beautiful and friendly country.
How is the mood in Germany post refugee crisis? And more so following the despicable new-year acts in Cologne?
Do non-white, Asian (non-oriental) tourists like me with very poor German need to take precautions?
Thanks in advance.
SwingerLover
01-09-16, 22:36
How is the mood in Germany post refugee crisis? And more so following the despicable new-year acts in Cologne?Post? This crisis hasn't even begun yet and Cologne was the first step of a prelude. The most despicable thing about the Cologne incident was of course the conduct of the company known as "POLIZEI". They were propably too busy harassing car drivers with sobriety checks and speed control to take care of molested women.
And please don't refer to those illegal imigrants as "refugees". Neither of those Syrians is up for political asylum, because none of them are persecuted by their governement. They claim to be fleeing from ISIS. Being threatened by a bunch of criminal terrorists is not 'political persecution' and therefore no base for political asylum. Not to speak of those from the Balkans, who are not threatened by anybody at all and come over with the one and only intend to collect social welfare.
Do non-white, Asian (non-oriental) tourists like me with very poor German need to take precautions?I don't think so. For you, everything should be business as usual.
Out of all the Sauna clubs and FKK in West Germany, which one would you go to on a Sunday, Monday or Tuesday? (Day and night).
LR (Living Room) was a disaster the last time I was there on a Sunday. I've had good luck at Sharks on a Monday a few times but I think I got lucky. Tuesdays at Sharks has been the worst for me at Sharks. Oase has been ok considering the non-prime time. I'm thinking GT might be best but schedule wise I will probably hit GT and LR over the weekend. Is Samya any good on the non prime time days / nights.
My preference: GFE, thin, young. Don't like silicone.
Cheers!
Hi,
Can anyone advise me what the attitude to poppers is in FKK clubs? I know they're legal in Germany (just got some in a gay bookshop. Interesting experience! But I don't want to cause offense. I use them all the time with girls in London (and the missus, who loves them! But I don't know the score in NRW. I'm heading to either ACA or GT tonight, if that makes any difference.
Thanks gents.
Hi,
Can anyone advise me what the attitude to poppers is in FKK clubs? I know they're legal in Germany (just got some in a gay bookshop. Interesting experience! But I don't want to cause offense. I use them all the time with girls in London (and the missus, who loves them! But I don't know the score in NRW. I'm heading to either ACA or GT tonight, if that makes any difference.
Thanks gents.I'm not sure they're legal any more thoug I've not heard of people getting prosecuted for use or possession of poppers. It's a short-acting and relatively harmful drug so the law doesn't bother to suppress it.
They're not available in straight sex-shops any more but I was told they're still sold "under the counter" in gay sex-shops. I ordered some from Austria some two years ago. Most girls will have them though, just ask. They will charge an extra.
And remember poppers are really dangerous when used with Vigra & co.
Hessen Bub
01-16-16, 20:19
Selling poppers in Germany is illegal. Posession is not.
HB.
Out of all the Sauna clubs and FKK in West Germany, which one would you go to on a Sunday, Monday or Tuesday? (Day and night).
My preference: GFE, thin, young. Don't like silicone.
Cheers!Goldentime, Acapulco, Sharks, Living Room are your safest bet on slow days. Except GT (busy in daytime and slowing down after 8-9 pm) all others german major fkks are night clubs, picking up not before 5-6 pm.
In GT girls are bit older on average but much more ethnic variety, meaning the majority is non romanian.
Hi folks,
I'm in the the Dusseldorf region and I have a car, so I don't mind driving as far as, say, Koeln, but I don't want to drive to Frankfurt.
I like skinny, light skinned, natural looking girls with beautiful faces, I don't like tattoos or silicon.
Which FKK Club would you recommend? Which have the largest # of girls, which have the most beautiful girls?
My schedule is somewhat flexible, I can go Sunday, Monday or Tuesday. Which time of the day should I go to have the best selection and the least competition for talent?
I appreciate your inputs!
HornyBob
Around Dusseldorf, for slim, natural, pretty face, casting, Acapulco. Girls arrive about 3 pm on Sunday. Entry is 30 until 1 pm.
For services quality, LR, with many very GFE girls.
PussyLiccker
01-17-16, 07:44
Too much constraints you have there. You are looking for the time for the biggest lineup and also least competition? Those contradict, as girls like to show up when prospect of business is higher (more punters around). GT would have most girls on Sunday, but those days are not great generally anywhere, especially Mon and Tues. Aca would be ok.
Info about other clubs recommended http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2601-FKK-FAQ&p=1817048&viewfull=1#post1817048
With the info provided, pick your days for what club.
Sunday is slow almost everywhere, but in the Dusseldorf / Cologne area GT is not bad (but many men), better alternatives are Acapulco Gold (Ratingen, very close to the airport) or Parksauna Residenz (Lohmar, 15 minutes under Cologne). RTCs are also ok, but you must like this small clubs with young girls offering all (without condom).
Monday same story, but even worse in line up, only the RTCs do ha ve a serious lineup.
Tuesday most clubs et more busy again, for instance Babylon (Elsdorf, west from Cologne) is a good option.
For the other poster / when Hessen / Frankfurt is an option: Sharks is ok on Sunday, Monday is difficult, Tuesday Oase and Sharks.
XXL Thanks for advice about poppers and viagra. I have read up and they are a really dangerous combination. I don't use poppers but have sometimes had girls who have stuffed them under my nose without asking.
Maxime. All your points are right. I would add that optic wise the rtc clubs are several rungs below other clubs, so as HornyBob wants the largest number of beautiful girls they may disappoint him.
Banana Boi
01-17-16, 13:20
GT by a mile Sunday to Tuesday. You can go at 11 am there will be girls there. Sixsens is a good Tuesday option after 1 pm. Mondial on Tuesday night after 8 pm has girls.
Silverado27
01-18-16, 17:03
A quick question here. I'll be in Düsseldorf this coming week and have come across the website for the VIP Club. I'm curious about why there is no info on this forum about that club since it looks like a very nicely done up, major FKK right in the heart of Düsseldorf. Can anyone provide any info or experience he's had with this club?
Thanks.
I have been looking at the new Google popular times bar chart for various FKK clubs. Supposedly it is based on GPS phone data same as used to locate your position on Google maps. Anyway, the bar graphs appear to give an indication of busy and quiet days for various clubs, and peak hours etc. Most clubs of course busiest on Friday Saturday but some variation on other days it would seem. I wonder if it reflects the experience of club goers accurately. For example the graphs suggest gt on a Sunday is a big day like a Saturday.
On Saturday evening, around 8/10 pm, time to wait for room and Jane was busy and Coco quite busy, at GT. But on Sunday at 8 pm, no need to fight for girls and rooms. Enjoyable room 7 with Kim. Ro.
Hi, is it safe to carry couple of tablets of Viagra into Germany? Or is it available over the counter, so I can buy it without prescription? Any info would be appreciated.
In GT girls are bit older on average but much more ethnic variety, meaning the majority is non romanian.Which other ethnicity girls are there in GT if they are not Romanians? Never been there so curious :)
Hessen Bub
01-20-16, 17:42
Hi, is it safe to carry couple of tablets of Viagra into Germany? Or is it available over the counter, so I can buy it without prescription? Any info would be appreciated.It is only available with prescription, but it is safe to carry it, it's not an illegal drug. LOL.
HB.
Which other ethnicity girls are there in GT if they are not Romanians? Never been there so curious :)There are now 3 basket players girls, 1 blond German, 1 Romanian. Before there was a Nigerian basket player girl. But I didn't find where to play, just where to swim with frogs.
Small, blond, tattooed Anjelina. De and famous Samia. Ro silicon, very smiling and playful were at GT last week end.
Which other ethnicity girls are there in GT if they are not Romanians? Never been there so curious :)Prevalent group is germans and romanians, than some bulgarians hungarians poles russians, plus the random turk, baltics, dutch, brazilian, caribbean, africans, asians, czech.
Romanians are ime never more than 25/30 %.
A quick question here. I'll be in Dsseldorf this coming week and have come across the website for the VIP Club. I'm curious about why there is no info on this forum about that club since it looks like a very nicely done up, major FKK right in the heart of Dsseldorf. Can anyone provide any info or experience he's had with this club?
Thanks.Do you happen to be going to the Boat Show?
VonderJohn
01-24-16, 21:00
Hello all,
I've seen many discussions about FKK Clubs in Germany, mainly Artemis and Shark.
I've been to Artemis but not Shark yet.
Which of them is the most popular and most competitive in terms of services, girls and overall atmosphere and facilities? Or is it an FKK club in another city? Based on experience of course. I need to know so that I'll decide whether to spend more time in Berlin or Frankfurt. Many thanks!
Can anyone recommend FKK's in or near Munich? Thank you.
Showdown.
Hello all,
I've seen many discussions about FKK Clubs in Germany, mainly Artemis and Shark.
I've been to Artemis but not Shark yet.
Which of them is the most popular and most competitive in terms of services, girls and overall atmosphere and facilities? Or is it an FKK club in another city? Based on experience of course. I need to know so that I'll decide whether to spend more time in Berlin or Frankfurt. Many thanks!At Sharks on Friday or Saturday evening, you will find about 60/80 girls, many are GFE without upselling, slim, natural, beauties. I think different than Artemis for tourists, like Palace or even Oase.
Hello all,
I've seen many discussions about FKK Clubs in Germany, mainly Artemis and Shark.
I've been to Artemis but not Shark yet.
Which of them is the most popular and most competitive in terms of services, girls and overall atmosphere and facilities? Or is it an FKK club in another city? Based on experience of course. I need to know so that I'll decide whether to spend more time in Berlin or Frankfurt. Many thanks!Read the forum and you'll see reports on both. It's personal choice really. I've only been to Artemis once but overall Sharks is more appealing to me.
I like variety so I would recommend going to have a look at Sharks. The other thing about Frankfurt is there are lots of other options and not just on the FKK front. Berlin only has the one FKK facility although there are many other mongering options there as well.
VonderJohn
01-31-16, 12:18
Read the forum and you'll see reports on both. It's personal choice really. I've only been to Artemis once but overall Sharks is more appealing to me.
I like variety so I would recommend going to have a look at Sharks. The other thing about Frankfurt is there are lots of other options and not just on the FKK front. Berlin only has the one FKK facility although there are many other mongering options there as well.I did read through and I found favorable views of both places. As for Frankfurt, currently my choice of mongering is Berlin, for the following main reasons:
1) FKK Artemis.
2) EWB (the flat rate gang bang apartment. Which I haven't found anything like it in Germany yet. Correct me if I'm wrong).
3) High quality erotic massage parlors.
4) Relatively inexpensive compared to other cities.
If all of the above are present in Frankfurt in a more competitive level, I'd sure give it a try.
ound anything like it in Germany yet. Correct me if I'm wrong).
3) High quality erotic massage parlors.
Definitely present in Frankfurt as well.
Hessen Bub
01-31-16, 17:48
Try VIP Massage Frankfurt in Offenbach. Nell.
http://www.massage-erotik-frankfurt.de/
HB.
I have only been to FKK clubs in Germany, never tried a massage parlor or other menus. This VIP Massage place looks good, but I see the website is only in German (no English version). Is this place good for English speakers?
Try VIP Massage Frankfurt in Offenbach. Nell.
http://www.massage-erotik-frankfurt.de/
HB.
Hessen Bub
01-31-16, 18:52
Didn't try to speak English to the woman at the reception or any of the girls, but it shouldn't be an issue.
HB.
For who likes her, brunette with prominent nose, MonaL, ex Bab, ex Samya, is at YY now. A real angel for behavior. With a prettier face, I would have tried since long time.
YY entry is 50 before 2 pm. Good breakfast. Worst small lockers, don t take a coat with You. Casting was not my type on this Friday, I may be unlucky because didn't see pretty girls, I was said about. So, I left at 8 pm after 6 hours spent to eat and sleep, for my new FKK home, Aca.
I have only been to FKK clubs in Germany, never tried a massage parlor or other menus. This VIP Massage place looks good, but I see the website is only in German (no English version). Is this place good for English speakers?Remember in Germany what you call "massage parlor" will often be just that: a massage with happy ending. Some masseuses are very good though and the experience is worth it if you can get hold of them at all. The best masseuses are usually fully booked days in advance. In the German city where I live there are some masseuses with raving reviews I have never been able to get an appointment with. They're as busy as the most famous hip-surgeons. Unlike full-sex sessions whose duration is variable massages are for a set time (typically 40 minutes) so masseuses can run a strict schedule and the chances of you getting hold of them by just showing up is slim.
English is never problem in Germany for discussing the practicalities but if you have a fantasy which is a language-based one that's another thing.
Can anyone recommend FKK's in or near Munich? Thank you.
Showdown.FKK Colosseum in Augsburg or FKK Hawaii in Ingolsdadt. Colosseum these days with the best LU of the two.
FKK Sunshine in Munich proper is a joke IMO.
If you can't travel to Augsburg I recommend Laufhaus Vitalia (no BBBJ though but quite a few very good-looking girls).
Solo Traveler
02-07-16, 11:56
Okay, my plan is to have another sex vacation around Frankfurt this summer.
Back in 2013 and 2014, I remembered the veterans in this forum made a conclusion that Sharks World Mainhattan Oase Palace.
And what happened to me proved that the only club that I did not have any bad service or bad attitude is Sharks.
But, that was almost 2 years ago, so I wonder does anything change now?
I am going to have my FKK sex vacation around Frankfurt this August.
Besides Hessen big 5, I am also thinking of trying new places like FKK Rom (near Sharks) and Treff188 (in Frankfurt).
If FKK Dietzenbach has improved, then I may want to try it again.
So.
1. Sharks.
2. World.
3. Mainhattan.
4. Oase.
5. Palace.
6. Rom.
7. Treff188.
8. Dietzenbach.
Which club has the most girls that are willing to provide good service (DFK, BBBJ, Covered Sex with lots of positions) for 50 Euro without up-sell or cheating?
Any suggestions or recommendations are welcomed.
Thanks!
Hessen Bub
02-07-16, 18:15
Which club to choose? I want good service for only 50 Euro or less. For LESS than 50 EUR you will have to chose Dietzenbach and Treff188 from your list. For 50 EUR (incl. DFK) for me the ranking for the BIG 5 in Hessen has not yet changed from good to worse experiences:
World. Sharks. Oase. Mainhattan. Palace.
But that is just my opinion.
HB.
ExpatLover
02-07-16, 18:57
Okay, my plan is to have another sex vacation around Frankfurt this summer.
Back in 2013 and 2014, I remembered the veterans in this forum made a conclusion that Sharks World Mainhattan Oase Palace.
And what happened to me proved that the only club that I did not have any bad service or bad attitude is Sharks.
But, that was almost 2 years ago, so I wonder does anything change now?
I am going to have my FKK sex vacation around Frankfurt this August.
Besides Hessen big 5, I am also thinking of trying new places like FKK Rom (near Sharks) and Treff188 (in Frankfurt).
If FKK Dietzenbach has improved, then I may want to try it again.
So.I always repeat the same thing it is a kind of gambling or fishing you are not lucky every day, for 50 euros you can t expect too much except you get a lucky draw, would recommend Shark first after Oase be careful World is 60 km north of Frankfurt, good luck.
Member #4581
02-07-16, 20:21
In FKK FaQ #1984 your recommendation order was Sharks, Oase, World, MH.
That was less than a month ago.
Perhaps World improved a lot of late, (or is it the qualifier about DFK which you added below).
For LESS than 50 EUR you will have to chose Dietzenbach and Treff188 from your list. For 50 EUR (incl. DFK) for me the ranking for the BIG 5 in Hessen has not yet changed from good to worse experiences:
World. Sharks. Oase. Mainhattan. Palace.
But that is just my opinion.
HB.
Hessen Bub
02-07-16, 20:24
He didn't ask about my personal ranking. He asked where to get DFK for 50€. I'd prefer Sharks over World re line up quantity AND quality, haven't been to World for 2 or 3 months.
HB.
Remember in Germany what you call "massage parlor" will often be just that: a massage with happy ending.Which MPs are you talking about? What's your definition of "happy ending"? A few more details would be helpful I think.
I am far from being an expert on MPs in Germany, but my experiences have have been very different from yours:
- Many Thai MP's are strictly professional and non-erotic and you will not be offered anything erotic or a HE at all. Typically http://www.rama-day-spa.de/, but also many others. You really need to know where to go.
- In most MP's I have attended in Frankfurt you will get a lot more than a HE. First of all the masseuse will always be fully nude and services will most often include erotic massage, B2B (including pussyslides and tit massage), mutual touching, and HJ, and sometimes also kissing, prostate massage, COB and DATY without extra charge (and a few times at an extra cost). BBBJ and CFS sometimes available at an extra cost (Premium Massage, Kaskade, Pam's Lounge and a few others come to mind).
- At one time I was at a Thai MP that turned out to be a brothel with no massages on offer at all.
- And then I have attended a few "tantric massages" which can be a mix of anything and nothing.
So, IME we need to be more specific when talking about MPs in Germany. I find it very difficult to make generalisations.
Which MPs are you talking about? What's your definition of "happy ending"? A few more details would be helpful I think.
I am far from being an expert on MPs in Germany, but my experiences have have been very different from yours:
- Many Thai MP's are strictly professional and non-erotic and you will not be offered anything erotic or a HE at all. Typically http://www.rama-day-spa.de/, but also many others. You really need to know where to go.
- In most MP's I have attended in Frankfurt you will get a lot more than a HE. First of all the masseuse will always be fully nude and services will most often include erotic massage, B2B (including pussyslides and tit massage), mutual touching, and HJ, and sometimes also kissing, prostate massage, COB and DATY without extra charge (and a few times at an extra cost). BBBJ and CFS sometimes available at an extra cost (Premium Massage, Kaskade, Pam's Lounge and a few others come to mind).
- At one time I was at a Thai MP that turned out to be a brothel with no massages on offer at all.
- And then I have attended a few "tantric massages" which can be a mix of anything and nothing.
So, IME we need to be more specific when talking about MPs in Germany. I find it very difficult to make generalisations.
A brothel calling itself a massage parlor is rare in Germany. (One can get massage in a brothel, though.) There are basically 4 types of massage parlors:
1. Medical massage: paid for via a prescription from your physician. Chances are some big dude in a T-shirt will massage you on a table.
2. Wellness massage: generally similar to above, but more about relaxation and less about treating muscular injuries. Often offered at large indoor swimming pools / saunas. If in a sauna area, sometimes you can be nude during the massage, but the masseur / masseuse will not be and there is no erotic component.
3. Tantra massage: a lot of far-eastern bullshit, but usually of good quality. Usually includes a hand job (this is what most people mean by happy end) and perhaps prostate massage. Touching the masseuse is possible but not very much. There is a whole range here: people who have studied far-eastern woo for years and so on, and at the other extreme just a tacky statue of Buddha in the corner-and everything in-between.
4. Erotic massage: the description above is spot-on. Officially, only erotic massage (both nude, body-to-body, touching, handjob) is on offer and you can complain and get a refund if any of these are missing. DATY, COB, kissing: possible, but not guarantee. Some girls will offer it to some clients but not others. BBBJ and CFS: rather rare, but it is on offer, as is CBJ, but usually at an extra cost. (Consider: just around the corner you can have 20 minutes fuck and suck in the RLD for EUR 25, while massage-parlor extras start at EUR 30 or so but the time is included in the time you've already paid for.) Very occasionally such extras are offered at no extra cost, but practically never if you ask for them. In other words, the girls know that this is not officially offered, and are under no pressure to do so, but might occasionally offer it to a client (usually a regular) they genuinely like.
On the web, look for "erotische Massage". If the website has nude or seminude photos of the girls, it is not in category 1 or 2 above. Tantra places tend to charge more than the standard EUR 100 for one hour.
(Fees for less or more than one hour and/or for more than one girl at a time do vary, so if you want, say, 2 girls for 2 hours, it pays to shop around.)
I was just trying to decide for my next trip of Germany and this time since I hit the big most popular ones many times I want to try some different clubs.
Because of last Tuesday dress days I will definitely hit Palace. I neglect the negative comments about there because for me it is a tier 1 club like Oase-Sharks and Artemis.
I want to try big clubs. I am really getting bored in small clubs.
Since there are many good reports about Mainhattan I really thought it is waste of time and money for me.
This time I think Oceand and PHG but I am also suspicious about PHG because as far as I know it is a small club.
And I still don't know what will be the number of girls in Ocean. (lets say on a Saturday night).
World is also on my list because GFE effect.
And I need one more club name. I will probably make three visits.
Is there any more recommendations?
Regards.
PussyLiccker
02-13-16, 20:45
Well, Iceberg. Something need to break that Ice, or should I say stereotype. Haha.
If you have not explored NRW, put it on the agenda. Last trip, GT I had a good visit. Similarly, the go to places in the area are GT, LR, Samya, Aca, and YY. My personal favorites at the moment are GT, and Aca, which is predictably the case most often have been for me given all my experiences exploring NRW up to now. A new added fav of mine is actually in the NL called SixSens.
If you ever allot so many days in that region with a car rental. I highly recommend trying these places out for the first time. There are more in the area, various types like RTCs, service clubs, etc(depending on your flavor).
My motto is that, if you are flexable, check them out, and them scratch them off the list if not meeting your expectations.
For me a good club visit will bring forth such a strong impression that, it will linger for awhile until I get it my thick skull, that I should ditch the place.
The top recommended places are recommended places based on my touring over a long period of time of various clubs in the region, but not end of all. There are clubs I haven't been for a long time like PHG(which I realized exploring reaps benefits) and Oceans for example.
If you can do vast majority of them, I recommend you look into them. I hope no Titanic hits. Hehe.
There are ways to optimize your visits(raise the chance of getting the most out of them), which rides on experience. If you have questions, feel free to ask.
Well, Iceberg. Something need to break that Ice, or should I say stereotype. Haha.
If you have not explored NRW, put it on the agenda. Last trip, GT I had a good visit. Similarly, the go to places in the area are GT, LR, Samya, Aca, and YY. My personal favorites at the moment are GT, and Aca, which is predictably the case most often have been for me given all my experiences exploring NRW up to now. A new added fav of mine is actually in the NL called SixSens.
For me a good club visit will bring forth such a strong impression that, it will linger for awhile until I get it my thick skull, that I should ditch the place.
The top recommended places are recommended places based on my touring over a long period of time of various clubs in the region, but not end of all. There are clubs I haven't been for a long time like PHG(which I realized exploring reaps benefits) and Oceans for example.
If you can do vast majority of them, I recommend you look into them. I hope no Titanic hits. Hehe.
There are ways to optimize your visits(raise the chance of getting the most out of them), which rides on experience. If you have questions, feel free to ask.PL,
I will definitely rent a car.
I have been in GT and Samya and Magnum before.
So they are out of list.
It looks like I will base in Fra again and will visit nrw daily.
I have never visited Aca but I have heard it is a boring place.
What you say if you compare LR to Oase and Sharks?
PussyLiccker
02-14-16, 19:33
LR is smaller than Oase or Sharks. Check out the images on the website. I'd say about 50 girls on weekend night when the most girls show (could be half the number on the slower days), but the interior is fraction of what to expect at Sharks. 60 Euros entry, and 50 Euros per half hour. Extras are half the price of Hessen. The club is known for girls offering on the higher service level there, good attitude and pre-sales, light approaches (non-sharky, or aggressive in general). Worth visiting to see how it's like. High percentage of Ro like other venues.
In the end it's all about what girl you run into at clubs. Is Sharks or Oase better, it's complex. Is Artemis great because it's large? Visiting various places, and the experiences will answer what is most preferred. For me it's about the visit, I can have a Sharks visit, I don't run into many girls of my taste(or stand-out girls) on a busy Friday night (which was the case my last visit by the way). So, explore around, and have fun. All this rides on your experience, and individual taste.
Banana Boi
02-14-16, 20:21
I have never visited Aca but I have heard it is a boring place.Boring yes but at various times can be the hottest lineup in Germany. Not to be missed.
Boring yes but at various times can be the hottest lineup in Germany. Not to be missed.I was only threetimes at Aca and last time was two years ago. Yep this club was very boring for me and on all my three visits was the line up there far behind the large Hessen clubs. Now I find here a lot of very positive reports about the line up. So ok maybe it so but one thing keeps very strange for me and this is the peanuts "money". The girls follow the money. I lost some favs of me from Frankfurt to Switzerland or Munich because they make there more money.
So and at Aca the girls get only 40 euro for a 30 minutes session. Also the extras CIM and anal AFAIK much cheaper compared to other clubs. So I have some doubts that real stunner with top room performance would do this.
I share your concerns. I am going next week only because so many senior and established members wax lyrical about this place. If it was down to the pics on site of the girls then I'd pass.
I was only threetimes at Aca and last time was two years ago. Yep this club was very boring for me and on all my three visits was the line up there far behind the large Hessen clubs. Now I find here a lot of very positive reports about the line up. So ok maybe it so but one thing keeps very strange for me and this is the peanuts "money". The girls follow the money. I lost some favs of me from Frankfurt to Switzerland or Munich because they make there more money.
So and at Aca the girls get only 40 euro for a 30 minutes session. Also the extras CIM and anal AFAIK much cheaper compared to other clubs. So I have some doubts that real stunner with top room performance would do this.
Banana Boi
02-15-16, 16:56
This time I think Oceand and PHG but I am also suspicious about PHG because as far as I know it is a small club.Hey Iceberg. Nice to hear you're heading back to Germany. Not that I have been to PHG in an eternity but from what I read it has not been a top FKK since the ownership change. If you decide to go an update would be great. As for Oceans, other than some obvious shilling I don't recall many good reviews suggesting hot girls. If you go, take FD's (?) advice and get some coupons that get you in for free (I'm not sure where to find these exactly).
After eliminating the clubs you have previously gone to, can I suggest Sixsens, LR, ACA, or even PSR, Mondial, and DV. Someone can correct me if I'm out of date but I'm confident any of these places will be better than Oceans or PHG.
I was only threetimes at Aca and last time was two years ago. Yep this club was very boring for me and on all my three visits was the line up there far behind the large Hessen clubs. Now I find here a lot of very positive reports about the line up. I'll report back after running through the top 5 Hessen clubs as well as ACA next month. I agree that Sharks' lineup was truly amazing in November and one of the best I've ever seen. ACA lineup goes up and down like any other club but 2 years ago it boasted Romanians like Madalina and her crew including Valentina, and Dea as well as Germans like Saskia and Kitty, not to mention the 'vette's and the rest of the Hungarian crew.
I was only threetimes at Aca and last time was two years ago. Yep this club was very boring for me and on all my three visits was the line up there far behind the large Hessen clubs. Now I find here a lot of very positive reports about the line up. So ok maybe it so but one thing keeps very strange for me and this is the peanuts "money". The girls follow the money. I lost some favs of me from Frankfurt to Switzerland or Munich because they make there more money.
So and at Aca the girls get only 40 euro for a 30 minutes session. Also the extras CIM and anal AFAIK much cheaper compared to other clubs. So I have some doubts that real stunner with top room performance would do this.I think you know my tastes for girls look in FRA, Marina Mainhattan even not top performer, Sara / Francesca, Sabina Scarlet Johansson.
Last Friday, my very regular was not working, but I didn't send her a message to ask if she will come, when I saw Selma. Mo, a real Sherazade, Christiana. Ro, 28 yo, the charm of Romanian brunette women and natural, pretty Louisa. De. These 3 girls provide high level for services and I also met many others, like Deria. Tu, Jaylon. Tu or Lora. Ro who was there on Friday. Aca is just a paradise for eyes and some girls are really friendly and provide really good services.
Aca superstar get more than 15 rooms on Friday and Saturday and should make about 2500 € from Friday to Sunday without any upsell for extra. I don't think many FKK WGs make so much money, even in GT or Oase or Sharks or Globe. Ch or even Aphrodisia. Ch. Besides, expensive don't mean quality, girls who try to upsell are not the best.
Banana Boi
02-15-16, 18:59
If it was down to the pics on site of the girls then I'd pass.What pics on the site? The only public pics of ACA girls I know are about 5 years old. Am I missing something new?
What pics on the site? The only public pics of ACA girls I know are about 5 years old. Am I missing something new?The ones I found in the online gallery. I am pleased if they are so old and maybe not representative of the quality.
I was only threetimes at Aca and last time was two years ago. Yep this club was very boring for me and on all my three visits was the line up there far behind the large Hessen clubs. Now I find here a lot of very positive reports about the line up. So ok maybe it so but one thing keeps very strange for me and this is the peanuts "money". The girls follow the money. I lost some favs of me from Frankfurt to Switzerland or Munich because they make there more money.
So and at Aca the girls get only 40 euro for a 30 minutes session. Also the extras CIM and anal AFAIK much cheaper compared to other clubs. So I have some doubts that real stunner with top room performance would do this.40 entrance and 40 per session really makes sense when it compared to let s say Artemis. It is 80 entrance and 60 per session and for one visit I calculate as you will save 120 and this is about 400 TL and it is about 7,5 % of my monthly sallary.
Of course I wouldn't care about money if I will really have fun.
Hey Iceberg. Nice to hear you're heading back to Germany. Not that I have been to PHG in an eternity but from what I read it has not been a top FKK since the ownership change. If you decide to go an update would be great. As for Oceans, other than some obvious shilling I don't recall many good reviews suggesting hot girls. If you go, take FD's (?) advice and get some coupons that get you in for free (I'm not sure where to find these exactly).
After eliminating the clubs you have previously gone to, can I suggest Sixsens, LR, ACA, or even PSR, Mondial, and DV. Someone can correct me if I'm out of date but I'm confident any of these places will be better than Oceans or PHG.
I'll report back after running through the top 5 Hessen clubs as well as ACA next month. I agree that Sharks' lineup was truly amazing in November and one of the best I've ever seen. ACA lineup goes up and down like any other club but 2 years ago it boasted Romanians like Madalina and her crew including Valentina, and Dea as well as Germans like Saskia and Kitty, not to mention the 'vette's and the rest of the Hungarian crew.Dear Banana,
I really trust your advices so I want to tell a bit more about my preferences.
I like Artemis because there are two kinos there and it is usual for girls come to Kino offer you a blowjob and switch to a room with you. This is really captivating me. In sharks there is Jacuzzi and a large saloon (also one kino but not as active as Artemis kino) so you can really spend time with girls.
Oase is somewhere with an integrated Kino so it is always part of life there.
I don't know they have a Kino there in Aca and how active it is.
For example in Mainhattan, kino is just dead.
In GT Brugge it is active and visited by girls and customers and it is always possible to find some nice girls in Kino. GT kino is the one that you can find the largest seats. (I can't even call them a seat it is clearly a very big bed so you must jump and slither on this bed to find your place.
If it is designed far from big saloon then it is being dead usually.
Artemis has an outdoor pool and sometimes I see guys get girls there. Unfortunately I guess in March there wouldn't be an outdoor option. But I hope I can come again in May.
Artemis has an inside pool but I have never seen a girl in it. Usually used by males.
So briefly that kind of facilities are important for me.
I hope my preferences are being understood.
Regards.
Banana Boi
02-16-16, 00:17
I like Artemis because there are two kinos there and it is usual for girls come to Kino offer you a blowjob and switch to a room with you. This is really captivating me. If this is your preference, Sixsens is a no brainer. The lounge and cinema are active. I've received action just sitting around minding my own business. I've seen a guy asleep being woken up by a hot girl giving him a BJ.
http://www.sixsens.eu/lounge/#.
http://www.sixsens.eu/sixsens-cinema/
Please don't misinterpret the above as me saying the talent at Sixsens is going to be better or as consistent than GT, LR, ACA, or even Samya. It is a nice relaxing club where you can discover a gem from time to time. It's a long drive to Sixsens so if you go you may want to book a hotel that night in Aachen. Also, 40 euro entry before 2 pm and there will be a good number of girls there before 2 pm since they also get the same entry disount.
ACA has a kino with one very large bed but more used for the girls to nap than anything else. I slept with my ACA girl for 2-3 hours in the kino once. She asked me to join her who am I to say no.
I was only threetimes at Aca and last time was two years ago. Yep this club was very boring for me and on all my three visits was the line up there far behind the large Hessen clubs. Now I find here a lot of very positive reports about the line up. So ok maybe it so but one thing keeps very strange for me and this is the peanuts "money". The girls follow the money. I lost some favs of me from Frankfurt to Switzerland or Munich because they make there more money.
So and at Aca the girls get only 40 euro for a 30 minutes session. Also the extras CIM and anal AFAIK much cheaper compared to other clubs. So I have some doubts that real stunner with top room performance would do this.You are right about girls following the money. It is more common to see girls flowing from ACA to higher-rate clubs than the reverse direction. ACA does have a lot of young girls, so part of the appeal is finding the "next superstar" before she has been discovered. You hear about porn stars who charge $2000 an hour, who used to charge $200 an hour when they were unknown.
One of the top-earners at ACA currently is Barbara. She used to work at Magnum which is 50 EUR per hour club. Didn't ask her why she prefers ACA more though.
PussyLiccker
02-16-16, 01:31
If people has seen names around. Notice some girls coming from other clubs to Hessen clubs. For the girls I noticed mostly had been Samya and GT that come to Hessen. Some of the top girls I've met were before they moved on to other pastures. Aca LU changes, due to girls moving in/out(includes passerbys like Samya). In general, girls move around at the NRW, checking out different clubs. End up settling at a club. How many times do some of the popular girls names get brought up come from a smaller club? Even the girls that come to Aca, some come from other clubs and smaller clubs. Typically fresh girls as been mentioned. People will often see girls move clubs. These fresh Romies at these clubs hasn't been motivate enough to do extras in high percentage to due the rate of the extras, and being new to the scene. Clubs like GT is a good club for girls to settle, but there is limitations on percentage of Romies allowed. So, in the end, change over rate at the NRW is higher.
Girls can make good money in bulk, and also less risk in clubs with lower entry fees. Girls like Kate at Aca makes good amount in bulk due to her popularity.
If this is your preference, Sixsens is a no brainer. The lounge and cinema are active. I've received action just sitting around minding my own business. I've seen a guy asleep being woken up by a hot girl giving him a BJ.
http://www.sixsens.eu/lounge/#.
http://www.sixsens.eu/sixsens-cinema/
Please don't misinterpret the above as me saying the talent at Sixsens is going to be better or as consistent than GT, LR, ACA, or even Samya. It is a nice relaxing club where you can discover a gem from time to time. It's a long drive to Sixsens so if you go you may want to book a hotel that night in Aachen. Also, 40 euro entry before 2 pm and there will be a good number of girls there before 2 pm since they also get the same entry disount.
ACA has a kino with one very large bed but more used for the girls to nap than anything else. I slept with my ACA girl for 2-3 hours in the kino once. She asked me to join her who am I to say no.I never heard that Sixsens. I will think about it. But what about this striptease and table dance story in ACA? Does it really happen there?
And a question. Which one you think is the most joyfull FKK in your opinion?
I never heard that Sixsens. I will think about it. But what about this striptease and table dance story in ACA? Does it really happen there?
And a question. Which one you think is the most joyfull FKK in your opinion?Don't follow men tastes like me because I'm too different for what I'm looking for, so best clubs for tourists are GT, YY NL, Oase, Palace, Sharks, Paradise Stuttgart and even I don t know, but probably Artemis. Also Globe. Ch, Bumsalp. Ch and Aphrodisia. Ch. Girls are used to fuck tourists in these clubs.
Aca, LR, Prestige, Mainhattan are more for regulars.
I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt this summer and have read through lots and lots of the threads. Thank you guys for all the information and great reports. I have a few really dumb questions.
1) Alcoholic drinks: Are they actually 10 euro at the clubs as one poster said?
2) The process of chatting up a girl. How much contact generally goes down? I'm all about touching a little, maybe kissing, but too shy about getting a BJ in public. Plus would that start your 30 minutes time? I'm also wondering if, after you've touched a girl and chatted her up, she would get mad if you say no to taking her to a room?
3) Once you get a girl, if you have to wait for a room: this isn't counted in your 30 minutes time I assume, right? When you're waiting, what do you do exactly? I hope it's not just standing awkwardly.
4) I'm in my mid 20's. Am I going to stick out like a sore thumb?
Thanks in advance.
Does somebody know bimbos with silicone tits offering AO sex? In any FKK.
Thanks
Member #4398
02-16-16, 22:43
What city in Germany is recommended to a monger newbie in Germany to be introduced to the FKK scene? I don't speak any German, only English and Spanish, and live in the USA. Only been doing the Latino Chicas at the DR, CR, and Colombia, and need to expand my mongering portfolio. I am also craving white European blue / green eye real blondies. The blondes are rare species in Latin America. Considering a trip to Germany after Brazil. Any advise for Cerebro?
What city in Germany is recommended to a monger newbie in Germany to be introduced to the FKK scene? I don't speak any German, only English and Spanish, and live in the USA. Only been doing the Latino Chicas at the DR, CR, and Colombia, and need to expand my mongering portfolio. I am also craving white European blue / green eye real blondies. The blondes are rare species in Latin America. Considering a trip to Germany after Brazil. Any advise for Cerebro?I'd suggest Frankfurt for a combination of the highest rated clubs and number of clubs within a reasonable distance of the city center.
English speaking is enough in FKK land, but 90% of girls are Romanian, they are the best for my tastes. To find real blond with blue eyes, go to Atmos Hamburg or GT Bruggen, west Düsseldorf, for Olivia, Anjelina, Jane, Lilia, Coco even not really pretty face for me.
At Sharks, south Frankfurt, you have Dina. Hu, Liza. De when she works, Latvian Marina.
Many girls are Romanian brunettes in FKK, some are so sexy sensual.
Member #4398
02-18-16, 03:54
Thanks Sirioja for the info. From reading the FKK forums, most FKK are located outside the cities and a having rented car or taxi is essential to get to the places. Well, I won't be renting a car spin Germany specially me not speaking any German and II will rely on public transportation as I do in every country I go. Which FKK are easy to reach by train or bus? I see one FKK (the Palace) in Frankfurt located near a train terminal (Main Central Station taking the U6 or 7 to Industrehaf and then a short walk from there). Are there any others located in cities or easy to reach by public transport if outside the cities?
English speaking is enough in FKK land, but 90% of girls are Romanian, they are the best for my tastes. To find real blond with blue eyes, go to Atmos Hamburg or GT Bruggen, west Dsseldorf, for Olivia, Anjelina, Jane, Lilia, Coco even not really pretty face for me.
At Sharks, south Frankfurt, you have Dina. Hu, Liza. De when she works, Latvian Marina.
Many girls are Romanian brunettes in FKK, some are so sexy sensual.
Not sure Valentine day is a good day for FKK, most of WGs have BF / fish / pimp / Mercedes driver.
Around 1st May, orthodox easter, casting may be lower, from Romanian.
Thanks Sirioja for the info. From reading the FKK forums, most FKK are located outside the cities and a having rented car or taxi is essential to get to the places. Well, I won't be renting a car spin Germany specially me not speaking any German and II will rely on public transportation as I do in every country I go. Which FKK are easy to reach by train or bus? I see one FKK (the Palace) in Frankfurt located near a train terminal (Main Central Station taking the U6 or 7 to Industrehaf and then a short walk from there). Are there any others located in cities or easy to reach by public transport if outside the cities?Sharks in Darmstadt north, by bus from Frankfurt airport.
Atmos in Hamburg Harbor.
Palace is a club to fuck tourists.
For those who want to discover a club, don t go from Monday till Wednesday, on lowest day, go when casting is high. I remember somebody saying me World was not good on a Monday, on June 2014, when casting was on top, but Monday was day off for stars.
Wolvenvacht
02-18-16, 21:09
Thanks Sirioja for the info. From reading the FKK forums, most FKK are located outside the cities and a having rented car or taxi is essential to get to the places. Well, I won't be renting a car spin Germany specially me not speaking any German and II will rely on public transportation as I do in every country I go. Which FKK are easy to reach by train or bus? I see one FKK (the Palace) in Frankfurt located near a train terminal (Main Central Station taking the U6 or 7 to Industrehaf and then a short walk from there). Are there any others located in cities or easy to reach by public transport if outside the cities?Samya in Köln is easy to reach by public transport, about 10 minutes walking from the light railway station.
Artemis in Berlin is even closer to an S-Bahn station.
No need for car rentals to reach these FKKs.
ExpatLover
02-19-16, 04:51
Thanks Sirioja for the info. From reading the FKK forums, most FKK are located outside the cities and a having rented car or taxi is essential to get to the places. Well, I won't be renting a car spin Germany specially me not speaking any German and II will rely on public transportation as I do in every country I go. Which FKK are easy to reach by train or bus? I see one FKK (the Palace) in Frankfurt located near a train terminal (Main Central Station taking the U6 or 7 to Industrehaf and then a short walk from there). Are there any others located in cities or easy to reach by public transport if outside the cities?You can reach Oase, world, shark by public transportation means, just use google map quite easy, for example to Oase from the lasts bahn station you can walk 45 minute s or take a taxi 6 euros.
Member #4398
02-19-16, 19:44
You can reach Oase, world, shark by public transportation means, just use google map quite easy, for example to Oase from the lasts bahn station you can walk 45 minute s or take a taxi 6 euros.I found this site with some address listing of Sauna FKK and other places in the Frankfurt area. I improved the list by adding their FKK website and other information from the same website. I just copy and pasted information, Description, hours of operation, entrance fee, direction, and other info that I found etc.
http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/.
FKK Mainhattan http://www.fkk-mainhattan.de/. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-mainhattan/..
Schielestraße 45 60327 Frankfurt am Main Main Phone: +49 (0) 69-408 976 18.
How it works: When you arrive, you first will have to pay the entrance fee, than you will get a sealed ribbon, so that the stuff know "which kind of customer" you are. You also will get a key for a locker and a big and a small towel. Girls in the club will be nude (only on Wednesday they will wear dessous), the male guest will wear a towel around the hip or if you prefer to wear a bathrobe, you can bring your own or rent one for € 5, If you like to spend money for drinks that are not included in the entry fee (check the menu for that), you can buy a voucher at the entry (overpaid money you will get back when you leave the club). In the club you can get drinks, food and enjoy relaxing in the Sauna or at the pool or spend time at the bar, in the cinema and so on. It is up to you, how long you stay there, but because of the entry fee, it is better to stay there for a whole relaxing day. Whenever you like to enjoy one of the working girls there, you can go with her to some private rooms (they provide around 25 of them). This kind of service is not provided by the club. All the girls are independent, so better clear the rate in advanced, but most girls will follow the "price list" you find here. You also can get a professional massage there (provided by specialists, not by the girls for an extra fee (€ 30 for 30 Minute). FEE: Tuesday to Saturday 10 am to 5 am Fee: Entry € 60,- (not included special service) Monday: 11 am to 5 pm only € 45.
Tuesday to Sunday from 11 am to 1 pm only € 45,- Including: different kind of drinks like beer and soft drinks (but not every drink, so better check the menu, also if you take the speci.
Including: different kind of drinks like beer and soft drinks (but not every drink, so better check the menu, also if you take the special rate, the beer will be charged! Also including food (breakfast, lunch buffet, sometimes outside barbeque, dinner buffet, midnight buffet). Special Service Fee: 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing you will have to spend € 50, if you like CIM, you have to pay another € 50,- and for the lover of the back door experience, the girls will charge additional € 100.
Schielestraße 45 60327 Frankfurt am Main Phone: +49 (0) 69-408 976 18 E-Mail: info@fkk-mainhattan.de Public transport (tram 11, direct from the main station in Frankfurt coming, stop Daimler Street, from here there are only 250 m walk) . Access via Daimlerstr. 22nd.
The Palace http://www.the-palace.de/. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/the-palace-frankfurt/.
Königsberger Straße 23 60487 Frankfurt-Hausen Englisch Hotline: +49 (0) 69-7103 452 E-Mail: info@the-palace.de.
The palace is another very elegant and posh location to have fun with sexy ladies. For the entrance fee, you have access to the Club with a lot of different areas and rooms. They even provide a very interesting porn cinema with places to sit or lie down together with your girl. The girls in the Club are independent, so not on the payroll of the club. You can clear all kind of service you like with the girls. There are some basic rates and services that also this club agree, but to be sure, better clear with the girl before you start a session.
Entrance Fee: € 75,- (not including special service) Including food and different kind of drinks.
Special Service Fee: 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend € 50, if you like CIM, you have to pay another € 50,- and for the lover of the back door experience, the girls will charge additional € 100,- Opening time: Daily from 10 am to 4 am Tram stop Industriehof / Neue Borse. There are plenty of parking spaces right outside the Palace and in the side of the street immediately around it. The Frankfurt exhibition center is only 5 minutes away. The main railroad station / city center can be reach in 7 minutes by car / taxis.
The Bahama Club http://www.bahama-club.de/. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/bahama-club-maintal/..
Marie Curie Ring 30 63477 Maintal theöringheim Phone: +49 (0) 6181/9458333.
The Bahama Club is smaller and different to the other Sauna Clubs around Frankfurt like Mainhattan or the Palace. First the ladies will not walk around totally naked like in other Sauna and FFK clubs in Frankfurt. In the Bahama Club they will wear sexy clothes like for example lingerie, second the girls there will not push you so much to book a special session (but if you like to enjoy some fun with them, it will be no problem to get in touch). The Bahama Club also offer a Sauna, Bar and different private Rooms. In summertime you also can get a free barbecue outside. Every day there will be around 10 to 15 girls there, so you should find one you like. Most of the girls will be from east Europe, some also from the south.
Entry Fee: € 35,- (not included special service) Including: different kind of soft drinks and snacks. Friday & Saturday free Cocktails Monday and Wednesday € 20.
Other days 6 pm to 8 pm: Entry € 25,- Special Service Fee: 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend € 50, if you like CIM, you have to pay another € 50,- and for the lover of the back door experience, the girls will charge additional € 100,-Opening times: Sunday to Wednesday: 12 am to 4 am Thursday to Saturday: 12 am to 5 am Location: The Bahama Club is around 15 minutes to drive from the Center of Frankfurt: Marie Curie Ring 3063477 Maintal theöringheim.
FKK-Royal Sauna Club http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-royal-maintal/..
Bruno-Dreßler-Str. 4 63477 Maintal-Bischofsheim Phone: +49 (0) 6109-504300 E-Mail: fkkroyalffm@gmail.com.
FKK Royal sounds very big, but compared with Mainhattan or Palace it is only a small club. Because of the low entry fee, it is a good choice, if you can only spend a short time in the Sauna. Most days there will be 4 to 20 girls available. They have around 8 small rooms for a private service session.
Entry € 15- (not included special service) not including drinks, but you have to take at least one drink (that will be charged additional when you leave the club). They also will serve small snacks like Pizza, but not included in the entry fee. Special Service Fee: 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend € 50, if you like CIM, you have to pay another € 50,- and for the lover of the backdoor experience, the girls will charge additional € 100,- Location: The club is around 15 minutes with taxi from the city center or the airport: FKK-Royal Bruno-Dreßler-Str. 4 63477 Maintal-Bischofsheim.
FKK Dietzenbach http://www.fkk-63128dietzenbach.com/. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-40-dietzenbach/..
The FKK 40 Club is known as the "discount club" in the Frankfurt area. The girls there only charge € 30,- for 30 minutes special service (if you can stand 3 times in one relaxing day), so much cheaper than the normal rate of € 50, The club will provide 10 to 20 working girls, so you should find one you like. The club is small and the decoration not on a high level, but a lot of people say the service is much better than the environment. In this club the girls will start to blow on the sofa in the public area, even before you go to the private rooms, so don't be surprised! Entrance Fee: € 30- (not including any special service) Including soft drinks, some snacks and use of the towels Free entry, if you enter before 12 am Special Service Fee: 1 x 30 minutes will be charged with 40 Euros, if you book 2 x 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend € 70 together, for 3 x 30 minutes you have to pay € 90, If you like CIM, you have to pay another € 25- and for the lover of the back door experience, the girls will charge additional € 50, The price list for the extras of the girls you will find in the entry area. There are profiles of all the girls with their extra service and what they charge additional.
How to find: The location is around 16 km away from the Frankfurt Center. FKK Dietzenbach Sauna ClubVoltastr. 4 63128 Dietzenbach.
Contact Phone: +49 (0) 6074-47360 Web: FKK DietzenbachE-Mail: info@fkk-63128dietzenbach.com Opening time: 11 am to 12 pm.
FKK OASE http://www.fkk-oase.de/en/home/. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-oase-burgholz/..
FKK-OASE Ober-Erlenbacher-Straße 109 61381 Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen (around 25 km from Frankfurt Center Information: +49 (0) 6007 93 05 51.
The Oase is one of the most popular FKK Saunas in Frankfurt. And complete redecorated in December 2012. They offer around 20 to 40 girls every day, also provide a hot porn cinema with bed and sofa lounges, where you also can enjoy special service with the girls. In the Oase, you will first but your valuables in a safe near the bar, than you will go downstairs to the locker room to take of your clothes. In summertime it is nice to enjoy the outside area with barbecue and girls entertainment. Starting from around 6 pm, the girls will perform some live show on a small stage in the public area. Specials: Thursday: Lingerie Party (all girls in sexy lingerie) Saturday: Cocktail night with live DJ start from 6 pm.
Entrance Fee: Day ticket € 75,- (not including any special service) Included in the price are refreshments (not alcoholic) and buffet. Special Service Fee: 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend € 50, if you like CIM, you have to pay another € 50. And for the lover of the back door experience, the girls will charge additional € 100. E-Mail info@fkk-oase.deWeb. FKK Oase Burholzhausen Information: +49 (0) 6007 93 05 51 FKK-OASE Ober-Erlenbacher-Straße 109 61381 Friedrichsdorf-Burgholzhausen (around 25 km from Frankfurt Center) Cheapest way to go there: Take the commuter train Nr. S5 from the central train station to Friedrichsdorf (around 20 minutes), than around 5 minutes with the taxi (should be around 7 to 10 Euros). About minutes walk on foot from bahn station. Opening time: from 10 am up to 5 am.
SHARKS FKK http://www.fkk-sharks.de/fkk-saunaclub. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-sharks-darmstadt/..
FKK Club Sharks. Sauna club bei Frankfurt -areöHM-Straße 72,64293 Darmstadt, Germany Phone: +49 (0) 6151-957970.
The Shark is one of the biggest Sauna Clubs in the Frankfurt Area and was opened in 2010. The Club is located in Darmstadt (around 40 km from the Frankfurt City Center) and around 25 km from the Frankfurt airport). Every day you will find around 30 to 40 Girls there. Special Service Fee: 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend € 50, if you like CIM, you have to pay another € 50,- and for the lover of the back door experience, the girls will charge additional € 100.
Day Ticket € 65 (not including any special service) Including soft drinks and buffet. They also provide a free WLAN! Also including rental of the bath robe.
Specials: Tuesday: Lingerie Day Contact: Phone: +49 (0) 6151-957970 Web FKK Shark Location: -areöHM-Straße 4264293 Darmstadt Opening time. 7 days a week from 11 am up to 4 am, Can be reach by bus from Frankfurt airport or train from Frankfurt.
M HauptwacheCommuter trainS3 towards Darmstadt Hbf 34 min (15 stops).
Darmstadt Hbf RBRB 15727 towards Aschaffenburg Hbf 3 min (non-stop).
From Darmstadt Nord Walk About 14 min, 1. 2 km to Sharks.
FKK WORLD. http://www.fkk-world.de/..
Address: Grüninger Weg, 35415 Pohlheim Garbenteich, Germany Phone:+49 6404 659388 Hours: Open today • 11 AM–5 AM.
It is about 62 KM from Frankfurt or train From Frankfurt to FKK-World in Pohlheim-Garbenteich by train (Regional express, RE) from Frankfurt central station via Friedberg and Gießen to Pohlheim-Garbenteich. Trains from Frankfurt to Gießen leave at least every hour, 22 minutes past the hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg3knTYgR6w.
LIVING ROOM. FKK http://www.fkk-livingroom.de/..
Address. August-Thyssen-Straße 4, 41564 Kaarst, Germany Phone:+49 2131 1513242 Hours: Open today • 11 AM–4 AM.
239 KM From Frankfurt via car. Duesseldorf Hbf take S bahn 28 towards Kaarster See and get off at Ikea Kaarst: 10 min walk.
Frankfurt Red light district. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/red-light-district/..
The red light area is located near the central railway station in Frankfurt. The center is the Taunusstraße and you also can find red light activities in some crossroads like for example Moselstraße, Elbstraße and Weserstraße. Most popular activities here are the *****houses, where you can have fun starting with € 25, than there are also a lot of street prostitutes around (we don't recommend it, because it is illegal and a lot of this girls are using drugs and not easy to avoid trouble), Than you will also find Strip bars here, but they will try to push you to order very expensive drinks, so if you don't want to spend too much money, better don't go there. But you also can enjoy food everywhere on the street, you can go shopping in the sex shops or watch a movie in a porn cinema (even these locations are normally used to spend time with one of the girls from the street). At least the red light district is a "must have seen" in Frankfurt, but be careful and better check out our warnings, before you go there.
Frankfurt Brothel Address list.
Angelas Penthouse Frankfurt.
Hessestr. 1 60439 Frankfurt (Doorbell of Engel, 5th Floor).
Phone: +49 (0) 69-95200975 E-Mail: info@penthouse-frankfurt.com.
Japan Miss.
Adalbertstr. 7 a 1. Floor, ring at doorbell "Asia" 60486 Frankfurt am Main.
Viola's Oase.
Albert-Einstein-Straße Nr. 763322 areödermark Phone: +49 (0) 179/3619685.
Rue 52 Schwalbacher Str. 52 65760 Eschborn.
Phone: +49 (0) 8196 5929534.
E-Mail: info@rue52.de.
Treff 188 Düsseldorf Str. 1.
65760 Eschborn Phone: +49 (0) 69 341662.
Mobile Phone: +49 (0) 170 7656978 E-Mail: info@treff.188.de.
Frankfurt Strip Clubs Address List.
Platinum Frankfurt.
Taunusstrasse 34 Entry Elbestraße.
Golden Gate Diamond.
Karlstraße 17 60329 Frankfurt.
Rough Diamond.
Moselstraße 46-48 60329 Frankfurt.
Pure Platinum Frankfurt Plan be.
Elbestraße 33 60329 Frankfurt.
Stardust Frankfurt.
Moselstraße 30 60329 Frankfurt.
Blue Movie / Porn Cinemas in Frankfurt.
Josefines Erotic store Platz der Deutschen Einheit 363065 Offenbach.
Beate Uhse Fun Center.
Stiftstraße 4 60313 Frankfurt am Main.
Dr. Müller Blue Movie Center.
Kaiserstraße 66 60329 Frankfurt am Main.
Street Prostitution Areas in Frankfurt.
Taunus Straße between Moselstraße and Weserstraße.
Theodor-Heuss-Allee between Emser Bridge and Opelrondell.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-20-16, 03:58
Snip
FKK-Royal Sauna Club http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-royal-maintal/..
Bruno-Dreler-Str. 4 63477 Maintal-Bischofsheim Phone: +49 (0) 6109-504300 E-Mail: fkkroyalffm@gmail.com.
FKK Royal sounds very big, but compared with Mainhattan or Palace it is only a small club. Because of the low entry fee, it is a good choice, if you can only spend a short time in the Sauna. Most days there will be 4 to 20 girls available. They have around 8 small rooms for a private service session.
Entry 15- (not included special service) not including drinks, but you have to take at least one drink (that will be charged additional when you leave the club). They also will serve small snacks like Pizza, but not included in the entry fee. Special Service Fee: 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend 50, if you like CIM, you have to pay another 50,- and for the lover of the backdoor experience, the girls will charge additional 100,- Location: The club is around 15 minutes with taxi from the city center or the airport: FKK-Royal Bruno-Dreler-Str. 4 63477 Maintal-Bischofsheim.FKK Royal is closed per the following:
Snip Atlanta took advantage from closure of the nearby club FKK Royal in fall last year. So some girls and guys have changed from Royal to Atlanta. And with Mia they have since almost two years for me a real highlight concerning service, optik and smartness. Further good locking top class performer are Danny and Emma. And general service level higher than in Frankfurt big 5 and usually no discussion "cost extra" for standard things. Snip
FKK Dietzenbach http://www.fkk-63128dietzenbach.com/. http://www.frankfurt-nightlife-guide.com/sauna-clubs-fkk/fkk-40-dietzenbach/..
The FKK 40 Club is known as the "discount club" in the Frankfurt area. The girls there only charge 30,- for 30 minutes special service (if you can stand 3 times in one relaxing day), so much cheaper than the normal rate of 50, The club will provide 10 to 20 working girls, so you should find one you like. The club is small and the decoration not on a high level, but a lot of people say the service is much better than the environment. In this club the girls will start to blow on the sofa in the public area, even before you go to the private rooms, so don't be surprised! Entrance Fee: 30- (not including any special service) Including soft drinks, some snacks and use of the towels Free entry, if you enter before 12 am Special Service Fee: 1 x 30 minutes will be charged with 40 Euros, if you book 2 x 30 minutes Session (including full service, BBBJ, kissing) you will have to spend 70 together, for 3 x 30 minutes you have to pay 90, If you like CIM, you have to pay another 25- and for the lover of the back door experience, the girls will charge additional 50, The price list for the extras of the girls you will find in the entry area. There are profiles of all the girls with their extra service and what they charge additional.
How to find: The location is around 16 km away from the Frankfurt Center. FKK Dietzenbach Sauna ClubVoltastr. 4 63128 Dietzenbach.
Contact Phone: +49 (0) 6074-47360 Web: FKK DietzenbachE-Mail: info@fkk-63128dietzenbach.com Opening time: 11 am to 12 pm. SnipThey missed the main difference between Dietzenbach and the other clubs: it's an AO club, with most of the girls doing AO. Also the pricing is outdated and also wrong about extras. The last time I went in late 2015, entry was Euro 40 and each session is 30 Euro (no more deciding upfront and paying for how many sessions you want) and there is no extra charge for CIM and anal.
I just realised that when one does a Google search for a particular FKK, a graph comes up showing how many visitors there are day by day hour by hour. This helps see when a club is busy, for example, Sharks on Sunday before the night. I guess the info comes from mobile phones with GPS location turned on, so that each phone registers back to Google when it is at the FKK.
Hessen Bub
02-22-16, 00:09
I just realised that when one does a Google search for a particular FKK, a graph comes up showing how many visitors there are day by day hour by hour. This helps see when a club is busy, for example, Sharks on Sunday before the night. I guess the info comes from mobile phones with GPS location turned on, so that each phone registers back to Google when it is at the FKK.LOL. You must have access to "Google. Next Generation".
HB.
I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt this summer and have read through lots and lots of the threads. Thank you guys for all the information and great reports. I have a few really dumb questions.
1) Alcoholic drinks: Are they actually 10 euro at the clubs as one poster said?.At Mainhattan beer and maybe wine is included. At Sharks alcohol isn't included. Don't know about others (yet).
2) The process of chatting up a girl. How much contact generally goes down? I'm all about touching a little, maybe kissing, but too shy about getting a BJ in public. Plus would that start your 30 minutes time? I'm also wondering if, after you've touched a girl and chatted her up, she would get mad if you say no to taking her to a room?There is a fair amount of touching, but it depends on the girl. I would say kissing is rare. You can definitely get a feel for things. I always try to be respectful and just lightly touch ass and subtly touch tits. But holding, cuddling, etc is normal. I chatted with a bunch of girls and didn't take them up and see others doing so as well. I try to tell them up front that I'm "resting" or "taking a break". Wasn't a problem for me.
3) Once you get a girl, if you have to wait for a room: this isn't counted in your 30 minutes time I assume, right? When you're waiting, what do you do exactly? I hope it's not just standing awkwardly..I never had to wait for a room but I did wait for a girl's doubles partner to become available and we just sit and cuddled and chatted. It was nice. I had plenty of time to tell her very specifically what I wanted so when we got into the room we dove right in. She explained it all in Romanian to her friend on the way up.
4) I'm in my mid 20's. Am I going to stick out like a sore thumb?
Thanks in advance.You'll be one of the younger guys there, but I wouldn't worry about it.
At Mainhattan beer and maybe wine is included. At Sharks alcohol isn't included. Don't know about others (yet).Among the Hessen big5 FKK clubs only at World and Manhattan (tap) beer is free of charge. At Sharks, Oase and Palace you pay between 6 and 10 euro per beer. Wine isn't included at any club in Hessen.
Choice of free (bottle) beer at many NRW clubs better but line up at Hessen FKKs better. LOL
Jimmy Boy 99
02-22-16, 14:39
LOL. You must have access to "Google. Next Generation".
HB.I must have it too: https://www.google.com/search?q=fkk+sharks&rlz=1 C1 CHFX_enUS656 US656&oq=FKK+sharks&aqs=chrome. 69 i57 j69 i60.6467 j0 j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8.
Among the Hessen big5 FKK clubs only at World and Manhattan (tap) beer is free of charge. At Sharks, Oase and Palace you pay between 6 and 10 euro per beer. Wine isn't included at any club in Hessen.
Choice of free (bottle) beer at many NRW clubs better but line up at Hessen FKKs better. LOLAt World, many men go now for free beer, not for many GND. Out of Sharks and a few girls at Atlanta, not sure FRA is higher than Aca, LR or GT.
Jimmyboy, most of your link was disabled by one of the forum program oddities.
It did the same when I tried.
Searching for FKK Sharks brings up the attendance numbers near the top of the search results page
Searching for FKK Sharks brings up the attendance numbers near the top of the search results pageName of the attendees as well? LOL.
Rmb to turn off the "position" function.
Wolvenvacht
02-22-16, 19:38
I just realised that when one does a Google search for a particular FKK, a graph comes up showing how many visitors there are day by day hour by hour. This helps see when a club is busy, for example, Sharks on Sunday before the night. I guess the info comes from mobile phones with GPS location turned on, so that each phone registers back to Google when it is at the FKK.Those are the number of visitors to their web-site! Not the visitors to the FKK.
Choice of free (bottle) beer at many NRW clubs better but line up at Hessen FKKs better. LOLI will take the bait. Haha. Of the clubs I've visited last month or so, based on optiks only:
(1) Sharks.
(2) YY.
(3) Samya.
(4) Aca.
(5) GT.
(6) Mondial.
(7) Atlanta.
(8) Mainhattan or Living Room.
Mainhattan, I attended on a Tuesday. YY and Samya are unusually high for me. Its hard to rate clubs. Like for me Atlanta had one really attractive girl (Daria), but the rest were very average. ACA, GT, and Mondial might have between 3-6 attractive girls, but no superstars.
Those are the number of visitors to their web-site! Not the visitors to the FKK.I don't think the graphs represent web hits. Notice the graphs go to zero during the times the clubs are closed.
I have no idea how the trends are formulated but they don't look like web hits to me.
Is based on GPS data collected (anonymously, they say) from smart phones.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11769815/Googles-new-popular-times-feature-could-kill-the-queue.html
Banana Boi
02-23-16, 01:41
(1) Sharks.
(2) YY.
(3) Samya.
(4) Aca.
(5) GT.
(6) Mondial.
(7) Atlanta.
(8) Mainhattan or Living Room.Thanks McA. Our criteria vary (big boobs vs. Face) but I trust your opinion on clubs. YY at #2 is a bit of a shocker though. Looking forward to my Spring return in a few weeks. I have no doubt Sharks will top my list as well.
BTW, is my crazy friend still at GT?
PussyLiccker
02-23-16, 02:31
Same here, I thought it seemed a bit off from what I'd expect, but then again it really rides on how many girls one finds attractive (which can vary depending on the punter). I weigh service for impression of the club as well, but if optiks is not up to par I probably won't session enough to find the about the service anyhow.
In general, people's rankings are going to vary due to people idea of girl types that are attractive. Some like petites, talls, thins, slims, hour glasses, penthouse model types, more mature, youngins, small tits, bigs, silicones, etc. So, I tend to pay more attention to those that report on the same girls I go with. Their opinion I would closely look into, but there are some variance still there with those folks as well.
Also, how many favs one has in the club has high weight.
For me, a hottie or a stunner will have a lot of weight on a visit, will be difficult for me to rate the LU objectively. Also, I may session a lot given my mood, and if majority are good services, my impressions will be good.
What I do agree with is that NRW or Hessen, ratings will vary, which I think is his point.
I personally would rate GT and Aca higher with YY down more, but that's just my impression based on my trip awhile back. Samya is about neck and neck with Aca. Samya could weigh more at times, or the other. And include SixSens as well as I enjoyed the visit, and found a highly repeatable girl, and service in general was good with attractive picks.
Since so many factors goes into a good time at a club, I now say good visit.
I realize that there is a priority in how I rate the optiks of girls. First is face and then body with tits with least weight (but, I have preference for larger tits, don't have to be perfect, no nasty sag though, but a good silhouette will have more weight). Charm, attitude, character, personality, good communication has weight too(will count when the optiks quite arn't hottie, stunning, or pretty level as I will find something that's attractive about the girl if it's there). I realized this since I've been with varieties of body types, but what is common is the faces standing out from the pack in general.
Best club visit for me is the best optiks in the club providing great services most important in addition to attitudes of the girls(Sharks, upselling, professional types, etc..). That's the club for me.
Good honest services are most preferred, and like-able types for me. Don't have to be what we refer to as "high performers," or do I look at girls in that manner.
One thing we can all agree up on is a highly repeatable girl or gem can't be beaten when found no matter which club they are hidden. Hehe.
Member #4581
02-23-16, 04:21
Wow McA, 9 clubs in just the last month. You are my hero, LOL. Seriously, you were in the club every fourth (almost every third) day, and if you had visited some of those clubs multiple times, your visit rate per month is even higher. I would consider myself to be lucky if I get to spend 10 to 15 days a YEAR in the clubs, LOL, whereas that number could be north of a hundred for serious regulars like you.
Vito Corleone
02-23-16, 07:52
Wow McA, 9 clubs in just the last month. You are my hero, LOL. Seriously, you were in the club every fourth (almost every third) day, and if you had visited some of those clubs multiple times, your visit rate per month is even higher. I would consider myself to be lucky if I get to spend 10 to 15 days a YEAR in the clubs, LOL, whereas that number could be north of a hundred for serious regulars like you.I know a crazy weirdo who visits 5-6 times a year & stays 10-14 days each trip.
Hessen Bub
02-23-16, 09:32
Is based on GPS data collected (anonymously, they say) from smart phones.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11769815/Googles-new-popular-times-feature-could-kill-the-queue.htmlWow, it really is. You can actually see that Sunday at 14 there's a high number of visitors due to the Happy Hour.
HB.
Nille Copenhagen
02-23-16, 10:14
Wow, it really is. You can actually see that Sunday at 14 there's a high number of visitors due to the Happy Hour.
HB.This could be convenient to avoid Sunday queue at Sharks LOL.
Those are the number of visitors to their web-site! Not the visitors to the FKK.No, it's visitors to the address (which given the methodology) would include staff, female guests, taxi drivers, and delivery drivers. LaLabo kindly found an explanation which confirmed my expectation that it was from Handy and tablet location trackers being turned on.
I know a crazy weirdo who visits 5-6 times a year & stays 10-14 days each trip.You? Sounds like sensible behaviour to me. My role model
Banana Boi
02-23-16, 16:35
This could be convenient to avoid Sunday queue at Sharks LOL.No because we can't differentiate if 200 users are 150 men or 50 men?
I know a crazy weirdo who visits 5-6 times a year & stays 10-14 days each trip.
Why is this an issue? This is more or less what I did from Fall, 2011 to Spring, 2014. PL is likely still close to this pace.
Wow McA, 9 clubs in just the last month. You are my hero, LOL.
Not to take anything away from McA but PL can do 9 clubs in 2 days!
McAdonis. Thanks for your list. I know it's all subjective but it's good to get such lists from those who visit many clubs.
Vito Corleone
02-23-16, 17:28
Why is this an issue? This is more or less what I did from Fall, 2011 to Spring, 2014.This guy has some serious issues! I wish I could keep up this pace!
Vito Corleone
02-23-16, 17:34
You? Sounds like sensible behaviour to me. My role modelDamn, you busted me out. I didn't notice your post before I replied to Banana. Since I'm still moderated not able to edit. I would visit more often & longer if I had the time.
BTW, is my crazy friend still at GT?Tracy (Kosovo) I haven't seen her this year.
Wow McA, 9 clubs in just the last month. You are my hero, LOL. Seriously, you were in the club every fourth (almost every third) day, and if you had visited some of those clubs multiple times, your visit rate per month is even higher. I would consider myself to be lucky if I get to spend 10 to 15 days a YEAR in the clubs, LOL, whereas that number could be north of a hundred for serious regulars like you.Actually, I forgot about Oceans, so that would bring my total to ten clubs. Some clubs have been multiple times GT, Samya, ACA, Mondial.
McAdonis. Thanks for your list. I know it's all subjective but it's good to get such lists from those who visit many clubs.Yes, definitely subjective. Most have indicated my biases or preferences. When evaluating based on optics, I imagine that I have amnesia and am seeing everyone in the LU for the first time. For instance on recent visits to LR and Oceans, the hottest girls at each club were Joelle and Lucy respectively. There was more excitement and curiosity when I saw Joelle because it was my first time seeing her. With Lucy, I've seen her 10-20 times and even had some mediocre sessions with her, so Lucy is almost invisible and I tend to forget her. But if I recall back to when I saw Lucy for the first time 2. 5 years ago at ACA, she made my jaw drop. Joelle didn't elicit that response from me.
I will take the bait. Haha. Of the clubs I've visited last month or so, based on optiks only:
(1) Sharks.
(2) YY.
(3) Samya.
(4) Aca.
(5) GT.
(6) Mondial.
(7) Atlanta.
(8) Mainhattan or Living Room.
Mainhattan, I attended on a Tuesday. YY and Samya are unusually high for me. Its hard to rate clubs. Like for me Atlanta had one really attractive girl (Daria), but the rest were very average. ACA, GT, and Mondial might have between 3-6 attractive girls, but no superstars.I know we don't have same tastes for look, angel faces vs tits and stockings, but can't believe for Samya and YY. I visited YY on a Saturday and had to finish me, driving on autobahn, when leaving, no girl for me. Samya would have better casting than Aca? Or Kim or Olivia at GT? When I see Danny, Raîssa / ex Georgina World, Ingrid, Delia and Darla, at Atlanta, can compete with Oase, Mainhattan, LR, even nearly with GT and not so far compare to Sharks at the moment.
Thanks McA. Our criteria vary (big boobs vs. Face) but I trust your opinion on clubs. YY at #2 is a bit of a shocker though. Looking forward to my Spring return in a few weeks. I have no doubt Sharks will top my list as well.
BTW, is my crazy friend still at GT?I have some good news! I have been granted by 1 year mult schengen visa by Istanbul German Consulate.
I am planning to come in beginning of March and I am working on my FKK list.
I really don't understand what is with this YY?
As far as I know it is a small club and far away from big cities like Fra or Cologne.
Is there a perfect lineup? Or better prices? Hospitality?
Someone explain please.
Banana Boi
02-23-16, 22:16
I can't comment on the lineup since I haven't been in a long time but I can say YY is a very nice club. It is not a small club so not sure what gave you that impression. Easily the most impressive Wellness area of any club I've been to but I don't give a crap about Wellness. It's not in the middle of nowhere given it's about 10-15 minutes from GT. If Sixsens is on your list, YY is the nearest decent club to Sixsens. If shopping is on your list, the Roermond Outlet Mall is a decent place.
I know a lot of girls I like who have also worked at YY so the lineup can't be that bad. A couple Summers ago there were reports of over 100 girls at YY. Not sure what the current numbers are. If McA says the lineup is good somewhere I would take his word on it.
YY is not popular on this tourist board suffering the same fate as Sixsens both located just outside Germany. If you look at the Dutch board, YY and Sixsens compile just as many reviews as the popular ISG club, GT.
Congrats on the VISA.
I know you take public transit so this may be an option to get to YY fairly cheap. From the Roermond Outlet Mall site "Travelling by Shuttle Bus - Take advantage of the Shuttle Bus service, departing Friday*, Saturday and Sunday from the central railway stations of Dusseldorf and Cologne. The return journey costs 15 euro." From the mall it would be a short cab ride to YY. Take the bus Friday, get a hotel near the mall/club, then shuttle back Saturday morning.
http://www.mcarthurglen.com/nl/designer-outlet-roermond/en/plan-your-visit/shuttle-bus-booking/
I can't comment on the lineup since I haven't been in a long time but I can say YY is a very nice club. It is not a small club so not sure what gave you that impression. Easily the most impressive Wellness area of any club I'v
YY is not popular on this tourist board suffering the same fate as Sixsens both located just outside Germany. If you look at the Dutch board, YY and Sixsens compile just as many reviews as the popular ISG club, GT.
Congrats on the VISA.
http://www.mcarthurglen.com/nl/designer-outlet-roermond/en/plan-your-visit/shuttle-bus-booking/Banana thanks for the advices. I will keep this in mind. If I am located in Cologne I will definitely hit this club.
Looks attractive.
Probably i will have wheels.I like to drive german autobahn.
Also there are many words on Easter. When is Easter effect start to be feeling? What is the date of Easter? This issue is always confusing for a non-christian...21 -March?
Orthodox Easter, very important for Romanian girls, is 1st of May. FKK would be quiet at this moment.
PussyLiccker
02-24-16, 13:55
Just a warning, YY gets busy later at night on Fri or Sat, typically 7-8 pmish onwards. Wait for rooms with the queue is very visible, and number of punters to girls will be very high. This means, it gets much more difficult to grab the best girl, or chances of her freeing up. I pretty much gave up on my last visit. Based on my weekend experiences(and also Wednesday visit), I'd visit Wednesday or Thursdays when it's more relaxed, and better overall experience for me. High percentage Ro, so likely LU doesn't change all that much from the weekend unless there is crap load of girls decided to gather up there like BB says. Doesn't seem like there is that many rooms at this club. There were few high level picks(Ro of course, not many though) there over visits, but unfortunately, didn't meet again. I would describe as cute young Romies, and they tend to be slim to thin types.
Weekend crowd is mainly young Turks, similar feel to Magnum on weekend with the obscenely loud thumping music in the lounge. Different from say Samya and Mondial ambiance with Manele, etc.. In general, not a worthwhile visit on a weekend, you get a smaller window toward the evening when the girls build up, but given how busy it gets as time goes on, not worth it. I probably won't do multiple sessions there on a weekend day, unless I spot some interesting girls earlier on which the chances seem low for me. YEMV.
My overall impression is mixed at best, but I will try out weekday visits from now on to see if it steers toward good. One session, but one girl I like the session with made my last visit worth it(on Wednesday), but the weekend visit, I arrived in the evening, and gave up(too many punters, etc..).
It's really difficult to which days I allot days for what clubs in Hessen and NRW, but if you have some experience under your belt some clubs you have a better idea over others which rides on several visits on various days. But, given my experience, I always ponder who will be at what club. I get curious due to random experiences in the past.
It's not in the middle of nowhere given it's about 10-15 minutes from GTSince GT is in the middle of nothing, YY is 15 min away from the middle of nothing.
Lineup YY on my (few) visits in 2015 was disaster, 95% romies and of the worst category. Used to be much better up to 2013-14 before the remodelling.
Too bad since YY is one of the best facilities, indoor and outdoor, probably best of all NRW.
They have lots of rooms now, more than 30, but yes it can get crowded with room waits on weekends.
Lineup YY on my (few) visits in 2015 was disaster, 95% romies and of the worst category. Used to be much better up to 2013-14 before the remodelling.
There were a few YY visits in 2015 that I left disappointed as well. The top optik for me at YY is Jessica. I'd say she is a top 5 optik for me amongst actively working FKK girls. Then there are two other girls that I find attractive and repeat. All three work regularly, so on any given visit two of the three girls will be working. So straight away there are two girls that I have a strong attraction for. That is already half-way to what I consider a very strong LU.
Lately, I've seen a few ethnic German part-timers. Perhaps working across the border gives them some anonymity and reduces the chance that they might run into someone they know. Also I'd guess that the German and Dutch tax authorities do not coordinate, so perhaps it makes it easier to dodge taxes. On most weekends there will be between 3-5 girls that I hear communicating to each other in fluent, native-level German. In FKKs, I generally do not find German girls attractive. If compiling a list of top 50 optiks ever, the previously mentioned Jessica is the only one that makes the cut.
PussyLiccker
02-25-16, 05:58
Lineup YY on my (few) visits in 2015 was disaster, 95% romies and of the worst category. Used to be much better up to 2013-14 before the remodelling.
Indeed I liked it before the remodeling to a disco type atmosphere, but that's just in terms of atmosphere. I liked the more relaxed atmosphere with the couches. I personally do not like the raised seats along the wall, not the same as couches they had in the past. I personally like to get to know the girls on the couch. So, I generally like the couch time type of interaction. It's something I got used to when I attended Oase mainly as a newbie.
Can't say the LU was better before, but it is different now lacking the diversity. Even before the renovations, my visits weren't that much better either.
I think the LU is fine, it's certainly not bad compared to some others out there. It's high percentage Ro LU like any other.
Jessica is one of the more attractive girls at YY. My tops where two pretty(one very pretty) Ro girls (stats still isn't good though, but well worth finding as they were tops), and provided good GFE services, but unfortunately, they left. This is often the case for me at the NRW. I've had so many top girls just disappear on me my next trip.
For peeps, highly repeatable girl at a club has a good weight. Any girl that would change my plans to turn my car, and drive back to the club where I met her are those types. I hope to run into those types on every trip.
If compiling a list of top 50 optiks ever, the previously mentioned Jessica is the only one that makes the cut.Really? 50? And she's the one that makes it to the 50? Given your stringent criteria, it seems like it's a rarity to find any top girls, seems more than expected.
Similar for me, but differently. I divide the optiks into levels. At the top of the pyramid, only a few stunners for me (5 or less). Those girls are the most memorable.
Memorable girls splits up into optiks and service (with some that overlap). I got those that are bombastic service, doesn't have to be high lookers. Generally, peak service providers. It's like service version of stunners. Those are the types that will motivate me enough to head back to see them again. Repeaters.
No matter how great they look, if service is not up to par, no repeat.
Anyway majority of the top girls, I've never seen again on my next trip. Really sucks.
Indulgent W
02-26-16, 15:44
I just found out that a planned 4 hour layover in Frankfurt will be extended to 10 hours, which finally gives me a window to visit either Sharks or Oase. The issue at hand is that it's going to be on a Sunday morning, with an afternoon departure.
Which of the two would be better for a first time visitor? I'd be thrilled to see some black or Asian women in the LU and would prefer a club that is not overrun by other men, but, having no experience, I'm open to suggestions.
Hessen Bub
02-26-16, 20:35
Sharks. Definitely.
HB.
Christian G
02-26-16, 21:16
I just found out that a planned 4 hour layover in Frankfurt will be extended to 10 hours, which finally gives me a window to visit either Sharks or Oase. The issue at hand is that it's going to be on a Sunday morning, with an afternoon departure.
Which of the two would be better for a first time visitor? I'd be thrilled to see some black or Asian women in the LU and would prefer a club that is not overrun by other men, but, having no experience, I'm open to suggestions.Sharks! They have a discount fee entry on Sunday before 2 pm.
TankTank123
02-27-16, 00:41
Indulgent,
At Sharks on Sunday morning, you will see only men (due to the discount) and Sylvanna. At Oase, there will be only a few girls, but as there will be no men to compete with on Sunday morning, you can take your pick from the 5-10 girls present.
Also, Oase opens at 10 am and the girls who stay in at the dorms there will be available early as they will not consume their single meal entitlement on breakfast. Sharks opens at 11 am and girls do not start to stream in from outside till 1.30 pm and they then proceed to have brunch for another 30 minutes.
I have tried both quite a few times during short layovers, and Oase, to me, is very clearly a better option if your window is from 10am to 2pm. But from 2pm onwards, some prettier ones will start becoming available at Sharks.
No black or Asians working in either clubs on Sunday morning, but sometimes Thai Kim (not pretty, but gives good very erotic Thai body massage culminating in sex) comes to Oase on Sunday mornings.
At Sharks at 11 am, you can have 2 stars: Dina. Hu and Agnes. Pol, who start going to room since the opening, like Sandra. De before. Can have also small Anita. De.
At Oase, if You are a lucky man, you can have 2 angels: Ina. Lat and Tatiana. Ru, who start about 11 am, when they are at Oase. Can have breakfast before, jacuzzi, kicking holes in the garden.
Carpe Viam
02-27-16, 10:12
Three of the four girls listed, have to be absent tomorrow.
In such case, Oase is better.
Planning a trip to NRW this summer and as they talked about approach or no-approach in another thread I thought I ask about some other clubs.
GT. Approach.
Aca. No approach but thin lines to approach.
Living Room - ?
Dolce Vita - ?
Samya - ?
Yin Yang - ?
PHG - ?
Mondial - ?
Some of the clubs I'm considering to visit.
PussyLiccker
02-27-16, 12:17
Living Room. Approach.
Dolce Vita. Approach.
Samya. Approach.
Yin Yang. Approach.
PHG. Approach.
Mondial. Approach.
SixSens. Approach.
You're a tourist or newbie to the club, you will be approached more than a regular since you are new to the girls. That's typically a given.
I could explain, but it's a bit complex, the environment, the degree of approach, the way, bla bla bla. Something you'd have to experience, and witness yourself. One thing for sure, Aca would be considered no-approach for sure to be distinguished from the other clubs.
Like for example, you will see some girls approach at GT, and others you will notice sitting on the stools that would rather wait for the punter to make the initiative. Saying approach or non-approach is too binary to put it.
Banana Boi
02-27-16, 12:24
GT. Approach but lots of girls sit on their asses waiting for you. Once you start the conversation they are friendly.
Aca. Strict no approach in the main room, unless they know you. Can be awkward for guys who are shy or not used to the environment.
Living Room. Friendly girls.
Dolce Vita. Approach. Can be the odd aggressive girl here.
Samya. Technically no approach but not really at night. Still hating the new layout.
Mondial. VERY approach. After 9 pm, the friendliest bunch of party girls anywhere.
I'm assuming you're looking for approach clubs. DO NOT let the no approach main room at ACA deter you.
Indulgent,
At Sharks on Sunday morning, you will see only men (due to the discount) and Sylvanna. At Oase, there will be only a few girls, but as there will be no men to compete with on Sunday morning, you can take your pick from the 5-10 girls present.
Also, Oase opens at 10 am and the girls who stay in at the dorms there will be available early as they will not consume their single meal entitlement on breakfast. Sharks opens at 11 am and girls do not start to stream in from outside till 1.30 pm and they then proceed to have brunch for another 30 minutes.
I have tried both quite a few times during short layovers, and Oase, to me, is very clearly a better option if your window is from 10am to 2pm. But from 2pm onwards, some prettier ones will start becoming available at Sharks.
No black or Asians working in either clubs on Sunday morning, but sometimes Thai Kim (not pretty, but gives good very erotic Thai body massage culminating in sex) comes to Oase on Sunday mornings.+1.
Definitely Oase over Sharks if your window is 10-15 and you want to have a couple of sex sessions.
Sharks over Oase if you want to have a couple of pancakes / breakfast sessions.
On a recent Sunday oase visit there were 2 asians available in the early hours, the tiny philipina May and the new (pretty face) thai girl.
I'm assuming you're looking for approach clubs. DO NOT let the no approach main room at ACA deter you.Thanks. I am used to approach from the Hessen clubs. The no-approach feels a little bit off for me but I guess you have to try yourself before final judgement. A bit like visiting clubs that get bad reviews on here. My thinking is that I would like to visit the club at least once myself to form my own opinion.
PussyLiccker
02-27-16, 14:35
When I first visit Aca, it was a bit of shocker to be honest (I mainly punted at Oase where most girls would rotate approaching you with the quick sales pitch), but realized that it's just the way it is, doesn't change from the fact that it's P6 approach or not.
Girls will give you a smile or make eye contact, will give you clues as to showing eagerness for business. My experience is that approach or not, don't make no difference in the outcome. My best sessions were girls that weren't even in the line of sight to make eye contact or show interest from a distance. Just random spots in the club. One memorable girl was sitting on the way back corner hard to even notice until I walked around a bit.
Most often, in general anywhere, the non-approachers would tell me they don't like to approach.
All this goes with perception. Valentina at Samya who provides good services never approached me ever. On a visit, she happen to be available sitting alone. She's always been occupied on visits, so hardly run into her on visits.
I think one of the more popular girl was Jacqueline De, it's because she has a good presence, smiles, comes off much approachable. She's just smarter when it comes to up marketing herself.
Hessen Bub
02-27-16, 15:15
Compared to Oase or Palace all NRW clubs are no approach.
HB.
Love Seeker
02-27-16, 16:36
Is it possible to meet a girl at an FKK club and take her out of the Club and back to your hotel room? How much would a overnight experience with an 18 -22 year old FKK girl cost?
Has anyone used the services of http://fkktours.com/? A banner sponsor of this site.
Thanks Love Seeker.
Hessen Bub
02-27-16, 18:47
The only club I know of where you can officially "barfine"a girl to take her out is Oase. Was something like 130-150€ AFAIR. Other clubs are not "allowing" girls to go private. If a girl does she may get into trouble.
Girls will charge anything between 500 and 1,000€ depending on the girl and the duration.
Can't tell you how many girls will be willing to go with a client if they don't know you as one of the reasons why they work at a club is the protected environment.
HB.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-27-16, 19:17
The only club I know of where you can officially "barfine"a girl to take her out is Oase. Was something like 130-150 AFAIR. Other clubs are not "allowing" girls to go private. If a girl does she may get into trouble.
Girls will charge anything between 500 and 1,000 depending on the girl and the duration.
Can't tell you how many girls will be willing to go with a client if they don't know you as one of the reasons why they work at a club is the protected environment.
HB.He's probably better off making an arrangement to see her outside the club the next day rather than take her out that same night, avoiding getting her in trouble or paying her "bar fine", as well entrance fees for both him and the girl the next day. Also, she will have had some experience with him so she may feel more comfortable going with him to a hotel.
Hessen Bub
02-27-16, 20:35
Depends if he visits the same club twice.
HB.
PussyLiccker
02-27-16, 22:37
Other clubs are not "allowing" girls to go private. If a girl does she may get into trouble.I don't understand. How does these other clubs have issue with girls going private? If she works few days a week, and she chooses to see a client outside, how does that get girls in trouble? I could understand if there is some contractual agreement.
With some GT girls I have seen escort pages, so they pull in business alternative to club visits. Those are the types that work few days out of the week.
I have been offered 500 after 10 pm from a known girl, I think she mentioned the barfine. I have also seen sombody offer half of that for the night, and he probably knew her well, if her business prospects weren't that great, she may have taken the offer.
Hessen Bub
02-27-16, 23:10
I don't understand. How does these other clubs have issue with girls going private? If she works few days a week, and she chooses to see a client outside, how does that get girls in trouble? I could understand if there is some contractual agreement.
There is no contractual agreement. Still: If a girl goes private the club looses her entry, his entry plus maybe what he is consuming (beverages that have to be paid) in the club. Some (most?) clubs will kick the girl out. I heard Artemis in Berlin is very strict about this.
Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just be careful the club, other guys and girls don't notice.
HB.
PussyLiccker
02-27-16, 23:31
That's true. If the club loses out on girls attendance, she's part of the LU that is missing on a client's visit. So, that will take a toll negatively. But, also at the same time, girls have the option to freely work the hours at the club on their own schedule, no? So, what she does outside the club, would be her choice, so not so clear on the issue at hand. Like what is she required, like is she required to work so many days at the club per week, etc. I'm sure some girls opt to work in clubs if the income is more guaranteed or steady flow with enough demand. But, the question is if there is an obligation what they can or cannot do that the club would control. Taking a girl out during her shift is a different issue all together.
There were club visitors that had taken girls out after the club closes at Sharks walking out together.
ExpatLover
02-28-16, 11:26
Is it possible to meet a girl at an FKK club and take her out of the Club and back to your hotel room? How much would a overnight experience with an 18 -22 year old FKK girl cost?
Has anyone used the services of http://fkktours.com/? A banner sponsor of this site.
Thanks Love Seeker.Most of the girls will refuse to meet you outside the club except they know you very well and have a high level of trust in you. Nevertheless she will finish her time in the FKK and give you a appointment for next day or after her work, she will ask to keep everything secret.
Just came across some interesting data that I wanted to share:
These are the net monthly incomes in Germany from 2012 and the percentile that it would place you in:
90th percentile is EUR 2,400.
95th percentile is EUR 2,900.
99th percentile is EUR 4,500.
In the USA, where I earn most of my money, I am much closer to the 1% than I am in Germany.
That makes a lot of sense that, when I'm going to an FKK, I'm probably having the equivalent of a much more expensive USA Experience.
I just thought this was interesting and explains a lot about the economics of it all.
Because pay is less in Europe, the girls are getting more purchasing power than I assume.
If an FKK happened to be set up in the USA, the girls would be a lot more expensive than in Europe.
FormulaOneFan
03-02-16, 07:44
Reality check from sex prison north america. I'm in Vancouver BC at a strip club. Dances are $50 cdn (35-40 usd). That gets you ONE song of a top less dancer who is mod tier FKK quality and if you're lucky you can touch her boobs.
Stage show is free (plus drink cost) and only 1 out of 5 are the girls nude.
There are escorts and massage parlors but they run $200-400 for a single session.
I have no regrets travelling to Germany to maximizeingesting dollars.
Hessen Bub
03-02-16, 07:58
I'm not a specialist for table dance, but there's table dance bars in Germany as well. Private dance at Pure Platinum in FFM is 35 EUR. Same rules as in NA, not touching, no sex.
PaySex in the US would be a lot cheaper if it were legal.
HB.
FormulaOneFan
03-02-16, 08:17
True. Since it's only legal in a very small area (rural Nevada) it's silly expensive.
Solo Traveler
03-02-16, 09:17
Since the 2016 presidential election is around the corner, can anyone suggest the two parties to legalize prostitution in the US?
LOL.
Banana Boi
03-02-16, 11:35
Same rules as in NA, not touching, no sex.US rule only but certain clubs in Vegas, Tampa, Miami, New York, etc. allow touching. In Toronto and Montreal ALL strip clubs are full contact touching and there are more than a few where you can have sex.
I'm in Vancouver BC at a strip club. Dances are $50 cdn (35-40 usd). That gets you ONE song of a top less dancer who is mod tier FKK quality and if you're lucky you can touch her boobs.
Not sure when you were last in Vancouver but I was there in December and the line up at No. 5 Orange was surprisingly good. At least 10 I would session with if they were in a FKK. Of course you still can't get a dance there since it's a rip off. Granville Strip had a couple of very nice girls as well but too few girls. I thought dances were $40 a song?
I remember a club in San Francisco, at the bottom of a very climb short street, not the one turning a lot, nor California "Bullit" street. There were rooms and had sex with a girl for 1 h for 200 USD.
I remember a club in San Francisco, at the bottom of a very climb short street, not the one turning a lot, nor California "Bullit" street. There were rooms and had sex with a girl for 1 h for 200 USD.Also possible with escort in Vegas Circus huge hotel for 300 USD, and in a club downtown at the end of the strip.
Hermann666
03-03-16, 14:04
Most of the girls will refuse to meet you outside the club except they know you very well and have a high level of trust in you. Nevertheless she will finish her time in the FKK and give you a appointment for next day or after her work, she will ask to keep everything secret.Girls that don't sleep at the club and have a long travel home in the morning may be interested in staying in the hotel room of a client for a smaller fee that involves sex. I've personally heard about at least a couple of instances where this has happened.
Member #4581
03-03-16, 18:55
Not sure about the last sentence.
Strip clubs and lap dances are quite legal, but still cost $30 a song or 3 for $60 at some of the good clubs. Each song being approx 4 min. Not exactly cheap. And minimal touching, no sex.
Also, brothels are legal in Nevada except Vegas, and prices are not cheap (relative to German FKK) and girls nowhere as pretty or young.
Clearly paid sex is illegal in most of the US, but we don't hear about cops raiding street hookers to high end escorts that aggressively. Cop attention is more focused on drugs, gangs, etc etc.
I think what helps EU and especially Germany is being part of the EU and the continuous access to eastern Eu girls. US has borders with Canada another rich country, and Mexico, which is technically a closed border.
I'm not a specialist for table dance, but there's table dance bars in Germany as well. Private dance at Pure Platinum in FFM is 35 EUR. Same rules as in NA, not touching, no sex.
PaySex in the US would be a lot cheaper if it were legal.
HB.
Member #4581
03-03-16, 18:57
That is high up on Trump's priority list right after building the Mexican wall paid for by the Mexicans, and making sure Apple build all iPhones in the US.
Since the 2016 presidential election is around the corner, can anyone suggest the two parties to legalize prostitution in the US?
LOL.
Hessen Bub
03-03-16, 19:18
Lapdance is 40€ here as well. But don't worry, prostitution will never become legal in the states.
HB.
If paysex were legalized in USA, prices would definitely come down. Maybe not to 50 EUR per half-hour levels, but I'd imagine close to that.
First, I think more freelancers and part-timers would flood the market. I'd assume there are girls that are tempted to hook, but choose not to because they fear the black mark of having a criminal record.
Two, the current rates are probably inflated due the fact that WGs must bake "risks" into their hourly rate. Legal fees, bail, security (because obviously WGs can't go to the cops if some john decides to rob her).
Three, while the US doesn't share an open border with a poor country, there are significant income disparities between the richest and poorest regions. Average income is $68 K in DC, $28 K in Mississippi. Average wage in RO is about a third of average wage in DE.
Four, we may not be making an apples-to-apples comparison here, because America does not have a FKK-equivalent. Therefore we should probably make a comparison between apartments or escort agency girls, where in DE, the prices probably start at 150-200 EUR per hour. One GT girl that goes through an agency is 400 EUR per hour.
FormulaOneFan
03-04-16, 07:53
Not sure when you were last in Vancouver but I was there in December and the line up at No. 5 Orange was surprisingly good. At least 10 I would session with if they were in a FKK. Of course you still can't get a dance there since it's a rip off. Granville Strip had a couple of very nice girls as well but too few girls. I thought dances were $40 a song?I went to No. 5 Orange in early December. Here's the thing that got me. The STAGE girls were hot, and would be sessionable in an FKK. The girls actually available for a dance, not so much. I never once saw a girl that went onstage come around and offer dances. And I never once saw a girl offering dances get on stage.
My clearly somewhat drunk posting was from Brandi's Exotic. Same sort of deal. Different girls onstage vs offering lapdances. At Brandi's and last trip to Orange, the dances are $50 CDN per song.
Main theme from the post was that in 'sex jail' a lapdance for 3 mins with a somewhat attractive not quite naked girl is almost the equivalent cost of 30 mins with BBBJ and FS with a hottie at an FKK.
TorrentChief
03-05-16, 06:29
Also, brothels are legal in Nevada except Vegas, and prices are not cheap (relative to German FKK) and girls nowhere as pretty or young.
Clearly paid sex is illegal in most of the US, but we don't hear about cops raiding street hookers to high end escorts that aggressively. Cop attention is more focused on drugs, gangs, etc etc.Nevada law is a bit odd actually. Counties with a population of under 700,000 can have brothels if they choose too. Right now about half the counties have legal brothels.
Messe in Frankfurt on next week end, so maybe more business for girls, because very quiet last weeks. Oase may be quite crowded on evening, maybe Sharks also. Maybe new girls at Mainhattan like for each messe.
Maybe new girls at Mainhattan like for each messe.Usually new girls for Messe time you can forget at all Frankfurt clubs. They aren't fresh from the bus most of them only fast and easy money maker. Good girls don't change the club for Messe.
Sometimes at World, some girls get. Also at Sharks and in outside swimming pool on summer.
TorrentChief
03-13-16, 10:22
Looking a for a bit of advice on which FKK's to visit on a three day trip. This is my first trip to see FKK's. I'll be in Dusseldorf, but I'll have a car, so driving is not an issue though I would prefer to keep trips under 90 min.
Here's what I would like to see while I'm there.
One night club style club with a good party.
A club for a nice long day of relaxing with good food, a sauna, and a massage.
A massive club. (I just want to see this on a large scale).
Of course if there is a way to combine those wishes into one club even better.
Talent level doesn't have to be top notch, coming from the USA quite honestly I'll be thrilled with good looking girls with fit bodies but avoiding annoying upselling and grumpy service is obviously a plus.
TIA.
Will the state elections in German which have seen losses for Merkel and also The Socialists and Gains for anti-immigration parties have any effect on the proposed new laws wrt our hobby?
A quick update on those State Elections, The Greens seem to have done well so may still be in position to stop the insanity!
BahramThereD
03-15-16, 10:25
Hi,
Just looking for a little advice. I plan on visiting sometime this fall. Does anyone know a hotel that's within walking distance of three or four FKK? I'm going to spend a week in town and would like to keep things simple, as in not needing transportation.
My entire plan is just a week of sex. I'm planning to visit two or three flat rate brothels. My plan is just to hang out with a lot of naked girls and screw a couple, because that doesn't happen stateside.
Hi,
Just looking for a little advice. I plan on visiting sometime this fall. Does anyone know a hotel that's within walking distance of three or four FKK? I'm going to spend a week in town and would like to keep things simple, as in not needing transportation.
My entire plan is just a week of sex. I'm planning to visit two or three flat rate brothels. My plan is just to hang out with a lot of naked girls and screw a couple, because that doesn't happen stateside.Hotel Contel, 5 mn walking to Sharks in Darmstadt. You can leave Sharks and return later on same day. Train to Frankfurt for Mainhattan with happy hours before 1 pm.
Looking a for a bit of advice on which FKK's to visit on a three day trip. This is my first trip to see FKK's. I'll be in Dusseldorf, but I'll have a car, so driving is not an issue though I would prefer to keep trips under 90 min.
Here's what I would like to see while I'm there.
One night club style club with a good party.
A club for a nice long day of relaxing with good food, a sauna, and a massage.
A massive club. (I just want to see this on a large scale).
Of course if there is a way to combine those wishes into one club even better.
Talent level doesn't have to be top notch, coming from the USA quite honestly I'll be thrilled with good looking girls with fit bodies but avoiding annoying upselling and grumpy service is obviously a plus.
TIA.For Romanian beauties, Acapulco.
For afternoon and early evening, if not dark skin, GT. For night, LR, if on same day, ask for discount when you leave GT, to pay only 35 at LR.
I may have a window in my calendar for a few days fun next week so considering a trip to Germany arriving Weds and leaving Sunday. I assume Easter has little impact on the number of girls and was just going to go with the following schedule:
Wed: Sharks (I was there last on a Thurs in Sept but was very quiet. I was told Weds are much busier due to reduced entry fee which in turn attracts more girls).
Thu: Palace (despite the bad press it gets here I really enjoyed my visit last time due to the variety and quality of line up).
Fri: Oase (my old favorite).
Sat: Return to the club where I have most unfinished business or possibly even Mainhatten.
Despite having visited Frankfurt perhaps 5-6 times now, I am not tired of the scene in the slightest and it is more convenient / cheaper for me to fly into Frankfurt but I always wonder whether it is worth venturing into NRW especially given some posters' views that the quality / service is slightly better and of course the extras are cheaper. The downside is that I understand some clubs do not allow entry to non-whites so I would avoid these clubs out of principle and it is not as easy to get around by train / taxi (I could rent a car but would rather not have the hassle but in any event I assume all are 1 hour away by train from Dusseldorf). I am always attracted by the clubs with the larger line ups and on that basis if I was to do the same as above (I. E. Visit 3 clubs on the first three days and then return to my favorite) and in geographical order (I. E. My Frankfurt list is South to North), my provisional list from North to South is:
Wed: Golden Time, Bruggen (NW of Dusseldorf).
Thu: Acapulco, Velbert (NE of Dusseldorf).
Fri: Samya. Cologne (South of Dusseldorf).
Sat: return to favorite.
As stated unless a club has really high class girls, my preference would be in order of size of line-up and I assume all these clubs would have 80+ girls over the course of both the day and night shifts. Are my assumptions correct or am I missing an obvious club. Should Babylon (Elsdorf), Magnum (Dusseldorf), Living Room (Dusseldorf) appear on the list instead?
Many thanks as ever in advance.
I may have a window in my calendar for a few days fun next week so considering a trip to Germany arriving Weds and leaving Sunday. I assume Easter has little impact on the number of girls and was just going to go with the following schedule:
Wed: Sharks (I was there last on a Thurs in Sept but was very quiet. I was told Weds are much busier due to reduced entry fee which in turn attracts more girls).
Thu: Palace (despite the bad press it gets here I really enjoyed my visit last time due to the variety and quality of line up).
Fri: Oase (my old favorite).
Sat: Return to the club where I have most unfinished business or possibly even Mainhatten.
Despite having visited Frankfurt perhaps 5-6 times now, I am not tired of the scene in the slightest and it is more convenient / cheaper for me to fly into Frankfurt but I always wonder whether it is worth venturing into NRW especially given some posters' views that the quality / service is slightly better and of course the extras are cheaper. The downside is that I understand some clubs do not allow entry to non-whites so I would avoid these clubs out of principle and it is not as easy to get around by train / taxi (I could rent a car but would rather not have the hassle but in any event I assume all are 1 hour away by train from Dusseldorf). I am always attracted by the clubs with the larger line ups and on that basis if I was to do the same as above (I. E. Visit 3 clubs on the first three days and then return to my favorite) and in geographical order (I. E. My Frankfurt list is South to North), my provisional list from North to South is:
Wed: Golden Time, Bruggen (NW of Dusseldorf).
Thu: Acapulco, Velbert (NE of Dusseldorf).
Fri: Samya. Cologne (South of Dusseldorf).
Sat: return to favorite.
As stated unless a club has really high class girls, my preference would be in order of size of line-up and I assume all these clubs would have 80+ girls over the course of both the day and night shifts. Are my assumptions correct or am I missing an obvious club. Should Babylon (Elsdorf), Magnum (Dusseldorf), Living Room (Dusseldorf) appear on the list instead?
Many thanks as ever in advance.Hi Be Wilder. First I should make clear that like you I'm a tourist. So my 5 cents here is very much my own views from personal experience but you should be far more guided by the really experienced regulars at all of these clubs like PussyLicker, Sirioja, Hessen Bub and others. I've done World, Palace, Mainhattan, Sharks and Oase in Frankfurt. I've also done Artemis many times in Berlin, and in NRW I've attended Samya and LR. I've not been to GT or ACA or the others you list. In terms of destination as a place to visit though you don't list it Berlin for me knocks spots off Frankfurt or Dusseldorf. Cologne is a nice city to visit for a day (and go to LR at night! Samya and LR are both a lot smaller than say Sharks or Oase. The service and friendliness in NRW appears to me to be better than FRA where the clubs are more sex factories! They are too in NRW but it feels more welcoming. But the LUs are not as strong in NRW on the occasions I've visited. The LU at Berlin / Artemis is always strong. People comment on the large number of silicones and tattoos there but trust me there are lots of other young lovelies and the clubs are good. There are other options to have sex in Berlin but I've not tried anything other than tantra massage places (Paris 5 was superb). So I wouldn't rule out Berlin if I were you and I would guess it's easy to fly there for you. If you do one night in Artemis you could get a train to FRA or NRW very easily. So I'd add Artemis in if I were you.
You will get more choice in FRA. But here's the great thing. The trains in between Dusseldorf, Cologne and FRA are frequent, direct and cheap. For that reason if you have 4 days I'd do one in Berlin, get the train to Dusseldorf, do LR, go to Cologne the next night, do Samya, and then have your final night in Oase or Sharks (for me the latter is miles ahead of Oase). I know this means some travel but you'd get a taste for all of the cities and clubs! I'm off to NRW in April and I'm going to try GT and ACA. But I hate having to get a car to do it. I like a few beers in the club but that's not possible if you drive. Everyone told me public transport to these clubs is a nightmare. It's for that reason I didn't include them (and that I ain't been to them!) from my suggested list.
Have a blast and take views from the regulars. It helps.
TankTank123
03-16-16, 15:59
I may have a window in my calendar for a few days fun next week so considering a trip to Germany arriving Weds and leaving Sunday. I assume Easter has little impact on the number of girls ..Many Romanian girls go home for Easter. Last week, many of my favorites reminded me that they planned to do so. But since Easter this year is on 1st May, you will be fine next week.
Thanks for the tips guys.
TT123 - I guess Orthodox Easter is the one that results in an exodus for Romanians. Guess next week is catholic / protestant easter so won't have an impact this time though my next visit was considering 3-7 May?
Pay for it. I have actually been to Berlin a couple of times for work and a stag. 2nd time went to Artemis which was great and of course Berlin is the best city tourism wise. For a combo of tourism and whoring your schedule sounds fantastic (I prefer Oase to Sharks myself). See the point re driving but I drive everyday so on holiday prefer trains especially when they're efficient as in Germany. I tend to stay in the hotel nearest to the club I'm visiting rather than in Frankfurt so don't mind being on the move. If I'm making it a NRW only sojourn sounds like I should add Living Room to the list!
Will of course post my adventures if I make it.
Should add is Dolce Vita were throwing in the mix so itinerary could be:
Wed: Golden Time, Bruggen (NW of Dusseldorf).
Thu: Living Room (W of Dusseldorf).
Fri: Acapulco, Velbert (NE of Dusseldorf) or Dolce Vita (in Dusseldorf).
Sat: Samya. Cologne (South of Dusseldorf).
If Dolce Vita was o make the cut think it would be at the expense of Golden Time or Acapulco as they seem more out of the way or are they absolute musts that trump Dolce Vita? Also does one of these clubs have a colour bar (ie not allowing entry to brown / black people) in which case the decision is easy if I choose NRW over Hessen?
TankTank123
03-17-16, 03:17
my next visit was considering 3-7 May?There would certainly be an impact on those days. Most of my favorites told me that they will be departing in the last week of April. The dates of their return ranges from 6 May to 15 May. I had taken note of their dates as I too am planning for another visit sometime in May.
That said, there would still be many Romanian girls left in the large FKKs during that period based on my experience in past years. However, in general, these tend to be the less popular, less pretty ones who stay behind, because they have less spending power, but also to take advantage of the absence of strong competition. The good ones will go home to enjoy their takings and get themselves refreshed for the early summer boom before they go back for holiday again in late summer.
Will these FKK Clubs (like FKK Dietzenbach) be open on Easter? What about the week after as that will go into Orthodox Easter and most of the girls will go home?
Hi guys,
I will have 2 days on the tail end of a business trip, and I can fly out of either Hamburg or Frankfurt. If Frankfurt, my plan was to fly into Cologne, quickly visit the FKKs in the area, and train it to Frankfurt to fly out.
I wasn't sure whether that was practical. It might be easier to just park in Hamburg for two days.
I have been to the FKK's in the southern part of Germany, but not the north, and never to the NRW. I have been reading the individual pages for Acapulco, Living Room, etc. But I can' get a feel for the lay of the land.
Can someone with experience post a short descriptive lay of the land in NRW, and how they compare both to each other, and to Hamburg. In Hamburg, I would probably spend one night in the RLD, and one night at Atmos.
Thanks in advance!
Nille Copenhagen
03-18-16, 16:04
Hi guys,
I will have 2 days on the tail end of a business trip, and I can fly out of either Hamburg or Frankfurt. If Frankfurt, my plan was to fly into Cologne, quickly visit the FKKs in the area, and train it to Frankfurt to fly out.
I wasn't sure whether that was practical. It might be easier to just park in Hamburg for two days.
I have been to the FKK's in the southern part of Germany, but not the north, and never to the NRW. I have been reading the individual pages for Acapulco, Living Room, etc. But I can' get a feel for the lay of the land.
Can someone with experience post a short descriptive lay of the land in NRW, and how they compare both to each other, and to Hamburg. In Hamburg, I would probably spend one night in the RLD, and one night at Atmos.
Thanks in advance!Go to NRW, RLD in Hamborg sucks, Atmos is so so, Harmony is good.
Faceless78
03-18-16, 17:52
Hi guys,
I will have 2 days on the tail end of a business trip, and I can fly out of either Hamburg or Frankfurt. If Frankfurt, my plan was to fly into Cologne, quickly visit the FKKs in the area, and train it to Frankfurt to fly out.
I wasn't sure whether that was practical. It might be easier to just park in Hamburg for two days.
I have been to the FKK's in the southern part of Germany, but not the north, and never to the NRW. I have been reading the individual pages for Acapulco, Living Room, etc. But I can' get a feel for the lay of the land.
Can someone with experience post a short descriptive lay of the land in NRW, and how they compare both to each other, and to Hamburg. In Hamburg, I would probably spend one night in the RLD, and one night at Atmos.
Thanks in advance!Homburg? It's never on the list for real FKKers.
At Hamburg, Atmos in harbor district and Harmony with Nicole. Ro, 30 kms south. Also Babylon.
Hi guys,
I will have 2 days on the tail end of a business trip, and I can fly out of either Hamburg or Frankfurt. If Frankfurt, my plan was to fly into Cologne, quickly visit the FKKs in the area, and train it to Frankfurt to fly out.
I wasn't sure whether that was practical. It might be easier to just park in Hamburg for two days.
I have been to the FKK's in the southern part of Germany, but not the north, and never to the NRW. I have been reading the individual pages for Acapulco, Living Room, etc. But I can' get a feel for the lay of the land.
Can someone with experience post a short descriptive lay of the land in NRW, and how they compare both to each other, and to Hamburg. In Hamburg, I would probably spend one night in the RLD, and one night at Atmos.
Thanks in advance!Not been to NRW or Hamburg but my understanding is that the best two places are Frankfurt (which I can vouch for) or NRW and Hamburg doesn't come into the equation. If flying in or out of Frankfurt why not do the FKKs there? But if NRW is more appealing I think the trains take 1 to 1. 5 hours to Cologne. If I did just have 2 days in Frankfurt I would definitely visit Oase and my other day would be a toss up between Sharks and Palace. The latter does get a lot of stick on this board (and why I avoided it for so long) but on my last visit I had a great time there and in fact went for a second day whereas Oase and Sharks only got a day apiece on a 4 day trip.
Manny, I tried the rld in Hamburg a few times. I really hated it, unlike say the Frankfurt RLD. Too many hard nosed people looking for a quick buck, and lots of scams. It's sometimes said that this Hanseatic port and its ties with England are somewhat English in character, and to my mind the sex scene is much like the skanky sex scene in England, unlike Germany.
I appreciate I draw an exaggerated picture but it's just my impressions.
Go for NRW or Hessen.
Manny,
Just to follow up on what the other folks are saying (all true BTW), NRW and Hessen (Frankfurt) are the FKK places to go. Funny enough the main issue has not been mentioned: The "holy" standard services. In a FKK standard services include BBBJ, DATY and kissing together with MPOS CFS. Girls are not permitted to ask extra payment for these services (though you have probably heard that genuine DFK can to a certain agree be a challenge in a 50 E session, but far from impossible).
In the FKKs of Hamburg you are often (always?) asked 20 E extra for BBBJ and another 20 E for DFK. So it's 90 E /140 E for 30/60 for something you quite easily can get for 50 E /100 E in NRW / Frankfurt. In some FKK clubs even cheaper (like Dietzenbach/Acapulco).
Mind you, it's been a decade since I visited the FKKs of Hamburg, but based en reports I still will suggest that the Hamburg FKK's are fewer, smaller, with less impressive facilities, but more importantly, with less impressive line-ups. I am yet to hear a trustworthy monger say we should drop NRW / Frankfurt for Hamburg.
When I was new to the FKK scene it was really hard to decide which city to visit and which clubs to visit.
I always wished to have seen these clubs so I could decide easily.
Now I understand how wrong I was. At the moment I have visited maybe 8 of them and still having hard time which one to visit.
Berlin, FRA or NRW.
In my first I had picked up Berlin. I think this is definitely the worst city choice because you only have one choice as Artemis.
I say this despite Artemis has a special place in my hearth also Berlin has (I love Berlin. LOL).
My reasons for that;.
1) Yes the city has a lot of attractions but let s say for a Saturday night will you prefer to go to Artemis or to a normal night club?
For weekdays all german normal disco and night clubs are not so much attractive because vast of majority of the population working on weekdays.
2) Since Artemis has a great atmosphere and line up there is a very high percentage of Sharks. In my second visit I was so angry at first because I crashed on two of them.
3) It is not as close as FRA-COLOGNE-DUSSELDORF if you land in Berlin you have to stay Berlin because like most of people you will also have a journey of 3-5 days. Only americans prefer to come Germany for a week or longer. Berlin is far away the other FKK cities. You can easily pass to Cologne from FRA in 2 hours.
Why FRA is better than NRW.
1) Clubs are bigger. Girls are more stylish. Tanned bodies, tattoos, better for my taste.
2) City is less boring. I accept Cologne has nice river and green areas but I have to say it is very boring. FRA is a much more cosmopolit and international city.
Just my humble opinion.
No extra for DFK and BBBJ at Harmony Seevetal, 60/30 mn with super GFE, pretty brunette Nicole. Ro, unfortunately Hamburg is not on my way to my sports, 1300 kms today for Alyana, staying only 4 hours at Sharks. I have to buy Oceans helicopter to return to Nicole.
At Atmos, some German tall blond.
When I was new to the FKK scene it was really hard to decide which city to visit and which clubs to visit.
I always wished to have seen these clubs so I could decide easily.
Now I understand how wrong I was. At the moment I have visited maybe 8 of them and still having hard time which one to visit.
Berlin, FRA or NRW.
In my first I had picked up Berlin. I think this is definitely the worst city choice because you only have one choice as Artemis.
I say this despite Artemis has a special place in my hearth also Berlin has (I love Berlin. LOL).
My reasons for that;.
1) Yes the city has a lot of attractions but let s say for a Saturday night will you prefer to go to Artemis or to a normal night club?
For weekdays all german normal disco and night clubs are not so much attractive because vast of majority of the population working on weekdays.
2) Since Artemis has a great atmosphere and line up there is a very high percentage of Sharks. In my second visit I was so angry at first because I crashed on two of them.
3) It is not as close as FRA-COLOGNE-DUSSELDORF if you land in Berlin you have to stay Berlin because like most of people you will also have a journey of 3-5 days. Only americans prefer to come Germany for a week or longer. Berlin is far away the other FKK cities. You can easily pass to Cologne from FRA in 2 hours.
Why FRA is better than NRW.
1) Clubs are bigger. Girls are more stylish. Tanned bodies, tattoos, better for my taste.
2) City is less boring. I accept Cologne has nice river and green areas but I have to say it is very boring. FRA is a much more cosmopolit and international city.
Just my humble opinion.Thanks for the replies everyone!
So far in Germany, I have been Stuttgart, Berlin, and most of Bavaria. I have been through Frankfurt, and checked out Oase and Mainhatten of the clubs there so far.
I echo your sentiments about Artemis exactly. I said as much in a prior posting.
My goal this time around was to pass through an area of Germany that I hadn't been yet. I had been reading about the Hamburg RLD, and I know that there is one FKK there.
Also, I have always followed the FKK board, and I know that NRW is generally considered the best overall, but given that there is nothing else of tourist interest in the area, its hard for me to get a lay of the land of all these places that seem basically in the suburbs.
Given that Hamburg has gotten such a negative response as a whole, I'll probably fly into Cologne, enjoy the city in the day, and visit Samya at night. Or if its possible, I'll train it to Living Room (which seems to be the most highly regarded of the NRW clubs from what I can tell.) The next day, I'll transfer to Frankfurt, and visit either World or Palace at night. Then fly out the next day.. That is unless, people think that they generally suck. If so, I'll just go to Oase.
Is Living Room generally the best in NRW? Is visiting there from Cologne practical? Palace or World worth it? Or should I just go to Oase?
And FYI, I value non-sharkiness over absolute hotness.
Thoughts?
I had been reading about the Hamburg RLD, and I know that there is one FKK there.My research turned up at least 3 FKK clubs in the Hamburg area that might be worth visiting:
http://atmos-fkk.de/en/home-page/
http://www.saunaclub-harmony.com/en/
http://www.fkk-125-hh.de/
As an American, I wonder if I can get a good hamburger in Hamburg? Hehehe!
Is Living Room generally the best in NRW? Is visiting there from Cologne practical?Yes it is practical, it is also quicker / cheaper to take a RE (express train) to Neuss via Dormagen (to connect with the S28 to the Kaarst Ikea stop) than travel via Dusseldorf.
Yes it is practical, it is also quicker / cheaper to take a RE (express train) to Neuss via Dormagen (to connect with the S28 to the Kaarst Ikea stop) than travel via Dusseldorf.Wow, thanks! Would you say that Living Room is the best in the Dusseldorf area? From reading a few months back on each of the Dusseldorf FKK's, LR seems to get the best overall reviews.
Would you say that commuting to LR is worth it over just visiting Samya in Cologne itself? I would add that I will probably pick a hotel in Cologne that night. Of all the cities I still yet want to see in Germany, Cologne was at the top. Hamburg wasn't even on the list until I heard that they have a famous RLD.
My research turned up at least 3 FKK clubs in the Hamburg area that might be worth visiting:
http://atmos-fkk.de/en/home-page/
http://www.saunaclub-harmony.com/en/
http://www.fkk-125-hh.de/
As an American, I wonder if I can get a good hamburger in Hamburg? Hehehe!Yeah, I saw those FKKs. Only Atmos had a sufficient volume of reports for me to get an idea. Harmony has just 2 pages.
And yeah, I wonder if hamburgers are good in Hamburg!
Hamburg wasn't even on the list until I heard that they have a famous RLD.Hamburg RLD is not famous but infamous. It's the very home of p4 p scams. If you want to avoid sharkiness / scams, then the easy answer is avoid Hamburg RLD.
NRW: I will let the NRW vets respond.
Frankfurt: You seems to prefer Oase over Mainhattan, but would prefer trying something new? Then Sharks should be the answer. You need to know what the hype is all about. Alternatively Oase or World. Palace should be the very last club on your list of clubs to visit.
Looking for a little help what would be the best way to get from Frankfurt Main to Sharks. Does Uber operate at the airport?
Hamburg RLD is not famous but infamous. It's the very home of p4 p scams. If you want to avoid sharkiness / scams, then the easy answer is avoid Hamburg RLD.
NRW: I will let the NRW vets respond.
Frankfurt: You seems to prefer Oase over Mainhattan, but would prefer trying something new? Then Sharks should be the answer. You need to know what the hype is all about. Alternatively Oase or World. Palace should be the very last club on your list of clubs to visit.Thanks for the input.
Ok, so Hamburg is out. In Frankfurt, people were enthusiastic about Sharks in the past, but if you read through jsut the last few months, it's been all very negative. Change in ownership? That is, unless, you know the deal with recent happenings, and I am mislead.
If so, then I guess its World. It has some proponents, some antagonists, but the chatter and reviews have at least been consistent over time.
Nille Copenhagen
03-19-16, 09:25
Looking for a little help what would be the best way to get from Frankfurt Main to Sharks. Does Uber operate at the airport?Take a taxi or bus (if you are on a budget).
Should add is Dolce Vita were throwing in the mix so itinerary could be:
Wed: Golden Time, Bruggen (NW of Dusseldorf).
Thu: Living Room (W of Dusseldorf).
Fri: Acapulco, Velbert (NE of Dusseldorf) or Dolce Vita (in Dusseldorf).
Sat: Samya. Cologne (South of Dusseldorf).
If Dolce Vita was o make the cut think it would be at the expense of Golden Time or Acapulco as they seem more out of the way or are they absolute musts that trump Dolce Vita? Also does one of these clubs have a colour bar (ie not allowing entry to brown / black people) in which case the decision is easy if I choose NRW over Hessen?My research shows that it is Golden Time that has the racist door policy so on that basis if I choose NRW over Hessen (and I really need to decide in the next day or two), it will be:
Wed: Dolce Vita (in Dusseldorf).
Thu: Living Room (W of Dusseldorf).
Fri: Acapulco, Velbert (NE of Dusseldorf).
Sat: Samya. Cologne (South of Dusseldorf).
Is DV worth adding to the list (my criteria includes at least 50-60 girls to choose from during the course of the day and night) or will I be better served doing the other 3 clubs and on my 4th day returning to the one I enjoyed most. If I opt for Frankfurt, it will be:
Wed: Sharks in Darmstadt which is south of Frankfurt (cheaper entry on a Wed; last time I went it was on a Thurs and was very quiet with the girls telling me there are more girls and customers on Weds).
Thu: Palace in Frankfurt.
Fri: Oase in Burgholzhausen which is north of Frankfurt.
Sat: will return to the club I've enjoyed the most or where I have most unfinished business. If I don't "fall in love" with a girl in the previous 3 days will go to Mainhatten for the first time which is in Frankfurt.
Nille Copenhagen
03-19-16, 09:27
Thanks for the input.
Ok, so Hamburg is out. In Frankfurt, people were enthusiastic about Sharks in the past, but if you read through jsut the last few months, it's been all very negative. Change in ownership? That is, unless, you know the deal with recent happenings, and I am mislead.
If so, then I guess its World. It has some proponents, some antagonists, but the chatter and reviews have at least been consistent over time.Sharks is not bad, the only bad / negative thing about Sharks is Siri.
Nille Copenhagen
03-19-16, 09:29
My research shows that it is Golden Time that has the racist door policy so on that basis if I choose NRW over Hessen (and I really need to decide in the next day or two), it will be:
Wed: Dolce Vita (in Dusseldorf).
Thu: Living Room (W of Dusseldorf).
Fri: Acapulco, Velbert (NE of Dusseldorf).
Sat: Samya. Cologne (South of Dusseldorf).
Is DV worth adding to the list (my criteria includes at least 50-60 girls to choose from during the course of the day and night) or will I be better served doing the other 3 clubs and on my 4th day returning to the one I enjoyed most. If I opt for Frankfurt, it will be:
Wed: Sharks in Darmstadt which is south of Frankfurt (cheaper entry on a Wed; last time I went it was on a Thurs and was very quiet with the girls telling me there are more girls and customers on Weds).
Thu: Palace in Frankfurt.
Fri: Oase in Burgholzhausen which is north of Frankfurt.
Sat: will return to the club I've enjoyed the most or where I have most unfinished business. If I don't "fall in love" with a girl in the previous 3 days will go to Mainhatten for the first time which is in Frankfurt.Why don't you try Magnum and Oceans.
Wow, thanks! Would you say that Living Room is the best in the Dusseldorf area? Yes, for the one off visit to Dusseldorf you're intending.
For me and this isn't a recommendation for your visit the best club in Dusseldorf (accessible by public transport) at the moment is Acapulco Gold based on entry cost, lack of overcrowding, lack of smoke, and service levels of the girls.
Would you say that commuting to LR is worth it over just visiting Samya in Cologne itself? Yes if the timings work out then it doesn't take that much longer to reach Living Room from Cologne Hauptbahnhof than the tram ride to Samya.
Looking for a little help what would be the best way to get from Frankfurt Main to Sharks.Airliner bus to Darmstadt Hauptbahnhof then take either a taxi to Sharks or use your Airliner Bus ticket to take Bus R in direction Darmstadt Nord to the Daimlerweg stop.
My research shows that it is Golden Time that has the racist door policy so on that basis if I choose NRW over Hessen (and I really need to decide in the next day or two), it will be:
Wed: Dolce Vita (in Dusseldorf).
Thu: Living Room (W of Dusseldorf).
Fri: Acapulco, Velbert (NE of Dusseldorf).
Sat: Samya. Cologne (South of Dusseldorf).
Is DV worth adding to the list (my criteria includes at least 50-60 girls to choose from during the course of the day and night) or will I be better served doing the other 3 clubs and on my 4th day returning to the one I enjoyed most. If I opt for Frankfurt, it will be:
Wed: Sharks in Darmstadt which is south of Frankfurt (cheaper entry on a Wed; last time I went it was on a Thurs and was very quiet with the girls telling me there are more girls and customers on Weds).
Thu: Palace in Frankfurt.
Fri: Oase in Burgholzhausen which is north of Frankfurt.
Sat: will return to the club I've enjoyed the most or where I have most unfinished business. If I don't "fall in love" with a girl in the previous 3 days will go to Mainhatten for the first time which is in Frankfurt.Thanks for the input!
Is the itinerary that you put together for transportation convenience? I understand that at any club, Sun-Tues will be relatively slower, and Wed-Sat generally busier. And I know that night is better than day. But beyond that, does the exact day matter to that degree?
My original plan was for Friday night in NWR, and Sat night in Frankfurt. Because my NWR night is a Friday, should I go to Acapulco instead? Is there something about Acapulco on a Friday that is especially good, or LR on a Friday that is particularly bad?
If so, then despite my plans to go to World, is there a club that is particularly "best" in Frankfurt on a Saturday?
Thanks!
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