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PussyLiccker
01-02-17, 01:40
Things are getting philisophical here. One of my fav philosopher once said.
"Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. ".
I've personally visited quite a number of cities in Romania, all positive experiences. I found everyone to be quite friendly. Food is cheap there, even at nice restaurants. I was surprised at how low my food bills were, even when ordering lots of food.
After flying into Bucharest, I recommend driving out to Constanta, by the Black Sea. The neighboring resort town, Mamaia, is worth a visit if beach vacations are your thing. Another good option I would recommend is a visit to the mountains, especially in the winter. For example, from Bucharest, it is an easy drive to Brasov, where you can visit Dracula's castle (that is, the Bran castle, among other castles). Also good for snow skiing or snowboarding if that is your thing. The saunas there are also nice (at least the ones outside the city; the one in the center of the city can be full of kids, which can be annoying). And no, I am not talking about sauna clubs like in NRW, just regular saunas with nice swimming pools and regular massage (sorry, not the naughty kind). Anyways, lots to see and do there. In Bucharest, I recommend visiting the old town, especially in the evening -- so many nicely dressed young ladies bustling about!
Getting around Romania is easy. I would recommend renting a car for convenience, although just be aware that renting a car is unusually expensive in Romania (when factoring in the car rental insurance that all guidebooks recommend taking when in Romania for various reasons).
Of course, visiting Romania is even nicer if you take one of your little Romanian sweethearts with you as a local guide, highly recommended!UH,
You are the guy that I was looking for. Someone visited Costanza. Every year I go to Odesa. And I am very curious how is Costanza compared to Odesa. I mean m / f ratio. Girls attitude. Overall.
Solo Traveler
01-02-17, 12:20
Any similar story you can share to warn him that it's an old trick?EnderW,
I had a similar encounter like your friend.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1617862#post1617862.
When the woman start asking for extra money with strange reasons, I stop our relationship right away.
In recent years, I come up with a fast way to test whether a woman is approaching me for true love or for money.
I will tell the woman I am bankrupted due to a business failure, so there is no savings in the bank anymore.
Plus, tell her the only thing I have is a house, a car, and a middle-classed job (E. G, a high school math teacher or whatever job that is not considered high-paid).
See the woman's reaction.
If she starts losing interests in me. Then, she is just for money, which is always the case. It is better to cut off the relationship with her anyway.
If she remains the same enthusiasm and keeps approaching me. Then, probably she is for true love, but this never happens.
Horny Harry
01-02-17, 18:29
In recent years, I come up with a fast way to test whether a woman is approaching me for true love or for money.
I will tell the woman I am bankrupted due to a business failure, so there is no savings in the bank anymore.
Plus, tell her the only thing I have is a house, a car, and a middle-classed job (E. G, a high school math teacher or whatever job that is not considered high-paid).
See the woman's reaction.
"A house, a car and a middle-class job" is already more than enough for any gold digger from Eastern Europe, duh! 🙄.
Do you really think working (girls are that dumb? They have a built in radar for MONEY and they'll quickly figure out that someone with a "business failure" and "no savings in the bank anymore" or someone with " a middle-class job" is not really telling the complete truth if he is paying hundreds if not thousands of Euros for pussy.
Besides, please define"true love?" WTF?! In an FKK club? "True love?!" 🙄 😂 Are you kidding us, and/or yourself?
Well, when my wife of 20+ years, then girlfriend, got pregnant when we were dating, I did not think I was scammed but if you look at it with a club context, you can say that I got scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars with a well planned long con that is still ongoing with increasingly diminishing return for me. Am I not a victim of a crime only because it happened in a socially accepted context of the "real" world?It takes two to tango. She didn't just "get pregnant"; she got pregnant because someone fucked her. Probably you. You make it sound like she intentionally got pregnant against your will in order to scam you. Yes, this does happen, but if you didn't want a child, why were no precautions taken? Or did she take your load in her mouth and surreptitiously stuff it in her pussy?
I am going to be in Frankfurt in two weeks. I have 2 simple questions.
1) are BBBJs still standard in all FKKs?
2) which FKKs are best for public sex?
I am looking to visit Oase, Sharks and maybe World.
Thanks.
Reading last few pages regarding the discussion of a punter thinking that they have something "special with a girl".
May I suggest googling for SAAFE forum (British prostitutes forum) and reading the thread "Sugar Daddies and related arrangements". The subject of that thread is very different than what was discussed in the last pages of this thread but it reveals the mindset of the average prostitute. I recommend reading that thread whenever you feel you have become friend or something more with a prostitute.
Let me quote two examples from that thread:
1:"No complaints here. The more money thrown my way for doing basically nothing, the better;
I had one follower on facebook who (I assume) didn't know I was stripping / escorting who would deposit £40-60 into my bank account whenever I asked him for some, all because he fancied me more than anything it was his way of trying to pull me. I got minimum £1 k off him before I met him, I made him the happiest man in the world just for a 5 minute shag after he progressively gave me over £1 k. Yep, more men like that please, roll up roll up!
2:Years ago I agreed to spend a whole weekend with a client. He paid me £1000 and took me shopping spent about £500 on presents trying to woo me into 'falling in love' with him. And he was there pretending 'its not about the sex'. So we only shagged twice: it was the longest weekend of my life and I couldn't wait to get back to my real boyfriend, I still had the receipts so took most of the stuff back LOL".
Now I am not saying all working girls are scammers (in examples from above the customer / man, could be hardly called blameless) but fundamentally their profession is about selling men fantasies. And many of them become very, very good at it.
And large portion of those "nice, service minded" girls as someone already mentioned here are masters of getting "gifts". I had sessions with girls bragging of customers getting them new Iphones and even one of them got new car from one of her customers.
And they are experts of finding ways to make you feel special. "Damsel in distress" (that needs money) is regular routine for some of those girls.
Just ask yourself. Why the hell would average FKK girl having Louis vuitton designer bag need money from you?
It takes two to tango. She didn't just "get pregnant"; she got pregnant because someone fucked her. Probably you. You make it sound like she intentionally got pregnant against your will in order to scam you. Yes, this does happen, but if you didn't want a child, why were no precautions taken? Or did she take your load in her mouth and surreptitiously stuff it in her pussy?I agree with your sentiment in general.
However there are still sizable minority of men who end up with a kid due to girl "forgetting" p-pill or p-pill "not working".
Sometimes it is OK (kid would come in anyway down the road) but I know personally of two cases where pregnancy was used as tool from the girl to cement the relationship. Not surprisingly in both cases they did not "live happily ever after".
I am not saying this happens all the time but unfortunately it happens now and then but it is not condemned by the society.
Or just go to any bar frequented by the singles and you will see plenty of girls flirting with men so that the men will buy drinks for them. Again. Totally accepted by the society (bragging about it in both cases is not socially accepted though). Heck. I got pretty blond on my work that is all smiles (and even use different, more sexy tone) whenever she wants something from me (or other men).
I am not saying women scam man whenever they can. But certainly women using looks to get benefits from men is tacitly accepted by society.
Yeah, I think it comes down to me thinking this is a wrong place to look for real love and he believes finding a true love in a place like this makes it more special- a some kind of destiny. I believe he is destined to be screwed in more ways than he bargained for but he thinks that's the risk he is willing to take for something "precious".
Well, when my wife of 20+ years, then girlfriend, got pregnant when we were dating, I did not think I was scammed but if you look at it with a club context, you can say that I got scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars with a well planned long con that is still ongoing with increasingly diminishing return for me. Am I not a victim of a crime only because it happened in a socially accepted context of the "real" world?I'm surprised when reading guys who compare wife, mother of children, with WGs who go with guys for money. We may not have same life experiences, but even I look for GF illusion, I can't understand guys who look for love with prostitutes fucked all day for money. I thought it was only for Romanian guys or Turkish pimps with German WGs, because they have money interest, it's not what I call real love, these girls prefer money.
Horny Harry
01-02-17, 23:44
It takes two to tango. She didn't just "get pregnant"; she got pregnant because someone fucked her. Probably you. You make it sound like she intentionally got pregnant against your will in order to scam you. Yes, this does happen, but if you didn't want a child, why were no precautions taken? Or did she take your load in her mouth and surreptitiously stuff it in her pussy?Mind you there are plenty of women deliberately 'forget' the pill and I even heard of a (Polish) girl in the office where I was working, that she used a small needle to poke tiny holes in condoms. I had one night stand and a narrow escape with her, and found this out later about her. What probably saved me is that I always use my own condoms when on a normal date, because she managed to 'hit the jackpot' not too long after our little fling.
These women are shrewd enough to get deliberately knocked up in order to clinch the deal and have the steady income from either marriage or alimony and the guy is screwed for life. But hey, in our politically correct world women always are "the poor victims" and men always are the "sexist pigs. " 😡.
UltraHappy
01-03-17, 01:31
UH,
You are the guy that I was looking for. Someone visited Costanza. Every year I go to Odesa. And I am very curious how is Costanza compared to Odesa. I mean m / f ratio. Girls attitude. Overall.I always brought my own Romanian with me during my Romania trips, so we just did touristy stuff in all the cities she took me to. Since I had my own sweet little Romanian with me all day, every day, I didn't explore any of the P4 P options in Romania (no reason to since I had such a nice one with me, taking care of me every night). From the nightclubs we visited in Constanza, I do remember plenty of groups of young ladies hanging around. I never tried approaching any of them since I already had my own Romanian with me.
From my limited research, it seems that I'm better off sticking to Germany when it comes to P4 P. I don't speak Ukrainian, so I've been reluctant to venture into Ukraine. So, I would only recommend Romania for touristy stuff, unless you happen to be living there and have the time to really explore the P4 P options there.
Member #4581
01-03-17, 01:55
What's the need for all these stories, obfuscations and fabrications about being middle class, losing job, or business broke? Just cut ties, walk away. You don't owe any explanation to any girl in the club. If you think she is scamming you, stop taking her to the room, stop answering her texts, but a block on her calls and texts and if she pesters you in the club then report to the front desk.
Well, when my wife of 20+ years, then girlfriend, got pregnant when we were dating, I did not think I was scammed but if you look at it with a club context, you can say that I got scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars with a well planned long con that is still ongoing with increasingly diminishing return for me. Am I not a victim of a crime only because it happened in a socially accepted context of the "real" world?Your pregnant GF "scamming" you into marriage is similar but not comparable. I am referring to professional criminals. So your situation sounds more like a mild cough, whereas I am talking about stage 4 lung cancer.
In other words, your pregnant GF (now wife) might be characterized as a gold-digger. Your money attracted her, but she envisioned an improved financial future that INCLUDED you. The scenario I am talking about would be a Romanian husband and wife being partners in crime. She would lure you into a false marriage. Essentially, she would be tricking you into financially supporting her real lover.
Wiki:
"Unlike a gold digger, who marries for money, a pro-dater is not necessarily single or available in real life. ".
Found this thread on Romanian dating scams. Only skimmed a page or so of posts. Not surprisingly the words "Western Union" seem to appear everywhere. It will make you think twice about how sweet and innocent RO girls are.
A post from Apr 01,2011 11:40 am seemed horrific. Synopsis:
Boy meets RO girl in USA. They marry. Her visa conveniently expires the day after they marry. She returns to RO. He wires funds so they can setup their life together. Eventually he gets suspicious. Hires personal investigator. Discovers that his wife was already married and had taken out loans under his name!!
http://scamvictimsunited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1706&start=75
Just ask yourself. Why the hell would average FKK girl having Louis vuitton designer bag need money from you?+1.
In the end, the situation at home manifested itself and the many lies began to unravel.
In any case, your courage to share the your story is admirable. Hopefully, it saves some hopeless romantics from falling for similar traps. The web of lies and betrayal probably stings as much as the financial loss. Often times when people are betrayed, they replay the lies over and over again, and beat themselves up over how they could have fallen for them. Hopefully that is not the case with you.
Hey fellow mongers
Have any of you seen any natural red heads at any of the clubs lately? I have a thing for them (but not the dyed red ones), and the last natural red head I sessioned with was a cute, pale one with light freckles at Sharks a couple years ago. She must have been about 22 and totally reminded of me of Lindsay Lohan when she was that same age, and it was one of my favorite sessions ever.
I'll be in Germany and Austria on and off for most of 2017, and if anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks in advance for any tips.
There is one at Artemis that may or may not be a natural ginger. At least it is allways red as far as I remember. (but may be she is natural brunette). She does actually remind me a bit of Lindsay Lohan too... never tried her as she is not my type, but I've talked to others who has. And they were satisfied it seemed...
Sirioja also keeps mentioning this russian Katea girl at Samya who apparently is a red head too...
Hey fellow mongers
Have any of you seen any natural red heads at any of the clubs lately? I have a thing for them (but not the dyed red ones), and the last natural red head I sessioned with was a cute, pale one with light freckles at Sharks a couple years ago. She must have been about 22 and totally reminded of me of Lindsay Lohan when she was that same age, and it was one of my favorite sessions ever.
I'll be in Germany and Austria on and off for most of 2017, and if anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks in advance for any tips.Maybe Madalina at Sharks with cat eyes and little vampire teeth? Always smiling friendly girl. Still at Sharks on end of 2016.
Katea. Ru Samya is red hair and very white skin, but should return home on January for Russian new year.
Have any of you seen any natural red heads at any of the clubs lately? I have a thing for them (but not the dyed red ones), and the last natural red head I sessioned with was a cute, pale one with light freckles at Sharks a couple years ago. She must have been about 22 and totally reminded of me of Lindsay Lohan when she was that same age, and it was one of my favorite sessions ever.
Redheads are not common in Bulgaria, Romania, etc. I have met several at clubs where only German women work, such as the sadly defunct Mettmann.
PussyLiccker
01-05-17, 03:40
Isn't Esther at Sharks have red in her hair? Red color fits well with her. Unless it's noticeably red, I just see either brunette or light brunette(dark blond).
Member #4581
01-05-17, 03:45
Redheads are not common in Bulgaria, Romania, etc. I have met several at clubs where only German women work, such as the sadly defunct Mettmann.Many of the Romanian or Bulgarian blonds working at these clubs are not naturally blond either, I would think. Perhaps someone should tell some of these girls to splash on the red pigment instead, given the scarcity value of redheads.
Many of the Romanian or Bulgarian blonds working at these clubs are not naturally blond either, I would think. Perhaps someone should tell some of these girls to splash on the red pigment instead, given the scarcity value of redheads.I know some girls are trying hard to find out which hair color brings in the most money for them. But as far as I know, most girls are as confused about it as we are. It is probably a personal thing with some. A few could probably experiment more with it for sure. Must say I like the spiced up stripes Alexia at Sharks puts on. But not a big fan of the mohawk reddish hair used by that other girl (but perhaps punk hair is more popular in germany?). She was deffinately better with long blonde hair. Vera at Oase were also better looking with blonde than as a brunette. But a few of those I have seen with red hair, like Brianna at Artemis is better looking when her hair is all black, unless her lingerie makes her look a bit black and white. So she has to mix up more colors in her lingerie then... Then there are those girls where it doesn't matter, like Carrie at Artemis, Eleny at Oceans or Maggie at Palace. Where all have very stand out facial features and a certain type of skin. And finally there are those girls who refuse to change because they have a favourite color and don't want or feel like trying out something new...
PussyLiccker
01-05-17, 06:08
I can't say I have preference for hair color myself. Looking back, most of the real top looking(stunning type looks) girls for me were brunettes or mix of red and brunette. That's not to say I prefer brunettes, they just happen to be brunettes. Not saying I don't see good looking blondes. Only certain looks can pull off blonde well IMO.
Yeah, I'm not not into shaved hair(punky hair-do, one side shaved or another) or short hair(which looks masculine). Some emo hair styles looks nice though. Short up to a certain extent is fine, like Adele-Diaz(Oase) or Julia blond(Oase), who can pull it off.
For me, eyes is the biggest draw.
Isn't Esther at Sharks have red in her hair? Red color fits well with her. Unless it's noticeably red, I just see either brunette or light brunette(dark blond).Yes, smiling friendly Ester. Ro at Sharks is reddish hair. Smiling Madalina also.
For those who really knew top Polish Karolina on September 2015 at Sharks, she is blond and made her hair black, when most of girls like Cosmina are brunette becoming fake blond.
According to Romanian girls, fashion is black hair, but I say to Kate Aca or Megan they have more lightning face with natural chestnut hair rather than Gothic look even I loved Evanescence singer voice.
When I started a bit more than 4 years ago, I looked for blond like Aida GT / Louana. Ro PHG, then Rachel. De when she became blond, Liz. De, Cora. De, Maria Platinium Oase, Ina. Lat, so I couldn't find many girls in FKK, but a classy brunette beauty did teach me to learn to love Romanian brunettes beauty with pretty face and straight long hair. When I returned to Aca on end of September 2015 , I found Kate of course, but not only her, at this time it was Romanian slim brunette beauties paradise. Same at History now. Too many Romanian brunette beauties all over FKK land, not only in Germany. She really did teach me in bad way but I can only thank her for my new attraction and pleasure.
Heading to Frankfurt today, and will probably visit Mainhattan, Oase and Sharks. Got no set plans, so if anyone is also visiting and wants to join me for a beer, feel free to drop me a PM.
EruditeGent
01-05-17, 15:42
I plan on visiting Germany from the US in Mid March and have not made any firm plans yet about cities to visit but see that the largest amount of FKK clubs are near Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. I would like to go to one FKK per day over 5 days or so and would prefer younger, girl next door, smaller natural breasts rather than silicone. I think I'd rather have 30 minute sessions and not upselling to content with. Reading each of the forums for each club it's hard to get a feel for the big picture. So I'd appreciate any input on planning my trip.
Thanks!
PussyLiccker
01-05-17, 18:29
Yes, smiling friendly Ester. Ro at Sharks is reddish hair. Smiling Madalina also.
For those who really knew top Polish Karolina on September 2015 at Sharks, she is blond and made her hair black, when most of girls like Cosmina are brunette becoming fake blond.
According to Romanian girls, fashion is black hair, but I say to Kate Aca or Megan they have more lightning face with natural chestnut hair rather than Gothic look even I loved Evanescence singer voice.
When I started a bit more than 4 years ago, I looked for blond like Aida GT / Louana. Ro PHG, then Rachel. De when she became blond, Liz. De, Cora. De, Maria Platinium Oase, Ina. Lat, so I couldn't find many girls in FKK, but a classy brunette beauty did teach me to learn to love Romanian brunettes beauty with pretty face and straight long hair. When I returned to Aca on end of September 2015 , I found Kate of course, but not only her, at this time it was Romanian slim brunette beauties paradise. Same at History now. Too many Romanian brunette beauties all over FKK land, not only in Germany. She really did teach me in bad way but I can only thank her for my new attraction and pleasure.Karolina was an easy pick for me. Was my type. Nice gal. Too bad she dstopped showing soon after. I would have liked to see her on further visits, but whatever.
Cora was a top looker when younger. My was she good looking back then. I find Cleo to look youthful despite her age late 20's. Was my type as well. She was French Italian or something.
Yeah, I do like chestnut color, but black on Karolina or Megan looks good black.
Black hair Romies has been most common at Aca, and in the past Samya (but less now). Similarly Mondial, but less as well. I aways thought there were more Turkish that likes black hair. I have heard from a girl lots of Ro men like black, so maybe the popularity. At Oase, you got Asians, and probably higher percentage are looking for something opposite of black, probably for newbies directly from Asia.
At GT, Romies are mostly chestnut or blond. So I guess maybe there is something to it with which the club.
I plan on visiting Germany from the US in Mid March and have not made any firm plans yet about cities to visit but see that the largest amount of FKK clubs are near Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. I would like to go to one FKK per day over 5 days or so and would prefer younger, girl next door, smaller natural breasts rather than silicone. I think I'd rather have 30 minute sessions and not upselling to content with. Reading each of the forums for each club it's hard to get a feel for the big picture. So I'd appreciate any input on planning my trip.
Thanks!For 50€/30 mn rooms with DFK and BBBJ with no upselling from smiling friendly GFE girls, I advice LR West Düsseldorf.
For 40€/30 mn rooms, Aca and H7 around Düsseldorf. H7 is free entry before 2 pm. Aca is entry 30 before 1 pm.
Can visit also Mondial around Koln. 30/20 mn.
Around Frankfurt, to get 30 mn rooms without upselling, World on North Frankfurt. 50/30 mn. Entry 47 before 1 pm.
Also Mainhattan and Sharks, but more risky upselling about 50€/30 mn rooms.
I plan on visiting Germany from the US in Mid March and have not made any firm plans yet about cities to visit but see that the largest amount of FKK clubs are near Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. I would like to go to one FKK per day over 5 days or so and would prefer younger, girl next door, smaller natural breasts rather than silicone. I think I'd rather have 30 minute sessions and not upselling to content with. Reading each of the forums for each club it's hard to get a feel for the big picture. So I'd appreciate any input on planning my trip.
Thanks!Definitely Frankfurt and definitely Sharks for a first visit. Trust me. I thought and discussed about that issue too much.
Karolina was an easy pick for me. Was my type. Nice gal. Too bad she dstopped showing soon after. I would have liked to see her on further visits, but whatever.
Cora was a top looker when younger. My was she good looking back then. I find Cleo to look youthful despite her age late 20's. Was my type as well. She was French Italian or something.
Yeah, I do like chestnut color, but black on Karolina or Megan looks good black.
Black hair Romies has been most common at Aca, and in the past Samya (but less now). Similarly Mondial, but less as well. I aways thought there were more Turkish that likes black hair. I have heard from a girl lots of Ro men like black, so maybe the popularity. At Oase, you got Asians, and probably higher percentage are looking for something opposite of black, probably for newbies directly from Asia.
At GT, Romies are mostly chestnut or blond. So I guess maybe there is something to it with which the club.I would be very happy if Karolina. Pol is far from her pimp. Unfortunately Cora is Turkish pimped, like was Sam. De.
When I discovered Sara at Mainhattan and Kate at Aca, they were chestnut. Nothing is prettier for me than natural beauty with sophisticated light make up.
Sena at Sharks is smiling and seems really friendly, but what a look: piercings and tattoos everywhere. Just impossible for me.
At GT, Romies are mostly chestnut or blond. So I guess maybe there is something to it with which the club.At artemis it is pretty much 50/50 black / blonde. But not many chestnut brown. Alot has natural chestnut, but they either darken it, or make it blonde. The same seems to be the case at Oceans. Although Oceans has a higher percentage of bul / tur girls compared to rom. And bul / tur has more the blacker natural hair also. So the black looks more natural to them whereas for a romanian the natural point zero is somewhere between which most opt away from.
While we're on the topic, how common is a full Bush these days? Or at least not completely shaven pussy?
What about hair on legs and / or underarms?
Up until about 20--25 years ago in Germany, practically no woman shaved anywhere. As such, sex workers were also unshaven: pussy, legs, underarms, all hairy. Those were the days.
Back then, shaven women were considered a fetish. Today, unshaven women are.
Sven. I haven't seen pubic hair for years except on asian workers outside FKK who nearly always are possessors of a hairy jungle.
Underarm hair very rare in FKK.
Hairy legs is more common, but still unusual. Andrea/Nina 2003 to 2014 (approx) never found her hairy legs and arms an impediment to her huge earning power :)
Twenty years ago smelly German women on public transport were regularly found: nowadays I guess they all shave underarms and use deodorant. There are still occasionally men in the clubs who smell.
PussyLiccker
01-06-17, 17:14
At artemis it is pretty much 50/50 black / blonde. But not many chestnut brown. Alot has natural chestnut, but they either darken it, or make it blonde. The same seems to be the case at Oceans. Although Oceans has a higher percentage of bul / tur girls compared to rom. And bul / tur has more the blacker natural hair also. So the black looks more natural to them whereas for a romanian the natural point zero is somewhere between which most opt away from.Based on all my visits to Art, can't recall noticible polarity (blond vs back / dark brunettes). Seemed varied, similarly Oceans despite high Turkish attendance. Oceans is no different when it comes to high percentage Romies like any other places, like Paradise Stuttgart now compared to the past. Other two similar category clubs that has distinguishing variations to the LU is Palace and Artemis which the high variety brings up the avg age of the LU.
Aca has had real polarity besides few blondes at times. Lucy and her friend (Another redheaded Ro) at Ocean were both black hair (with Lucy with light stripes on her hair, had more of a gypsy look back at Aca). Same girls, but at Oceans they changed looks, hairstyles, makeup, and attires (enhanced). Even 3 Hungarians I was into was black haired there (with additional brunettes). Different clubs have girls on the avg enhanced their looks to degree. Aca, Samya, and LR (there are others as well) are more simple in their appearance. Has more of a natural look to them due to this.
Bulgarians are varied, but mainly brunettes, and have met blondes as well. Turkish are mainly black, so pretty much the majority I've met was black if 100%. If not (mixed German), brunettes. Balkans (German nationals) are dark haired, and all that I've met kept that way.
But, amount of blonde Germans met for me has been the highest in terms of percentage, and within that domain most naturals probably.
Hessen Bub
01-06-17, 18:08
Up until about 20--25 years ago in Germany, practically no woman shaved anywhere. That is the case for most Western countries.
HB.
I have 10 hours in Frankfurt central from 1200-2200 hrs on a Friday and looking for the best FKK in terms of women. Looking for all types, all sizes, my style is fake pornstar look or tiny gymnast type. Getting to Sharks will be a hassle but Mainhattan is close. Is it worth the 2 hour round trip to Sharks?
Citizen Kane
01-06-17, 19:17
Up until about 20--25 years ago in Germany, practically no woman shaved anywhere. Off-putting to say the least.
FormulaOneFan
01-07-17, 03:12
There are a couple of girls at Sharks with a small landing strip. Not many (and one that is a body type I would never consider spending time with). My last trip to Samya I had a room with a girl who was had shaved pussy, legs, etc, but had armpit hair. Nothing gross or massive but it took me by surprise.
If you want Bush, go to Asia. Singapore, Thailand, Korea, China, etc. Even just 3 years ago ALL WL's were full Bush, last trip to Singapore / Thailand there were more trimmed / clean shaven options.
But, amount of blonde Germans met for me has been the highest in terms of percentage, and within that domain most naturals probably.Germans in general color their hair less than especially the romanians yes. Some romanians can go a bit far in terms of makeup for certain. Some of those taking it too far, especially at Artemis or Sharks, sometimes has blonde hair, curls and pinkish lipstick. Which makes it even more unnatural as blonde natural hair doesnt curl at all. Some germans actually stick with their natural chestnut brown hair also and it works for them. But also, some girls do in fact look better when they color it. Hard to be concluive on this I suppose.
Ggeorge: there are a few fake porstar/tiny gymnasts at Palace. May be a better pick than Mainhatten unless you are able to get to Oase or Sharks... Crina at Palace is one of the most gymnastic girls I have ever met in an fkk. And there are more than one fake pornstar at the place...
ExpatLover
01-07-17, 15:04
Sven. I haven't seen pubic hair for years except on asian workers outside FKK who nearly always are possessors of a hairy jungle.
Underarm hair very rare in FKK.
Hairy legs is more common, but still unusual. Andrea/Nina 2003 to 2014 (approx) never found her hairy legs and arms an impediment to her huge earning power :)
Twenty years ago smelly German women on public transport were regularly found: nowadays I guess they all shave underarms and use deodorant. There are still occasionally men in the clubs who smell.Sorry but can't understand the link between hairy and smelly, I am living many years in Asia and despite 90% of the girls are not shaved they don't smell but met several Escorts in Europe who were shaved and really not smelling good. If you don't wash your shaved dick I am convinced that you will smell.
That is the case for most Western countries.
True. It was essentially only the US and, to a lesser extent, the UK.
Sven. I haven't seen pubic hair for years except on asian workers outside FKK who nearly always are possessors of a hairy jungle.
I notice that in porn Asians often have a full Bush.
Hairy legs is more common, but still unusual. Andrea/Nina 2003 to 2014 (approx) never found her hairy legs and arms an impediment to her huge earning power :)
Where did (does?) she work?
Twenty years ago smelly German women on public transport were regularly found: nowadays I guess they all shave underarms and use deodorant. There are still occasionally men in the clubs who smell.Smell is not related to shaving. Well, if one never showers nor bathes, one will smell more with hair, but if one is shaven and doesn't shower one will still stink, and if one does shower regularly one doesn't stink even with hair.
Sorry if anyone thought I was making a causal link between hairiness and smelliness. My English was not as clear as it should have been. Mea culpa :) I was just noting that the decline in frequency of encounters with smelly women in public probably correlated with use of deodorant, and probably hair removal as part of new levels of self care, which included more frequent washing.
Washing of hair after licking pussy is advised otherwise one's partner will know where one has been and what one has been doing:D.
Sven. World, Finca, Artemis. Retired in Dec 2014 if I remember right. I loved her hairy legs and arms.
Sorry if anyone thought I was making a causal link between hairiness and smelliness. My English was not as clear as it should have been. Mea culpa :) I was just noting that the decline in frequency of encounters with smelly women in public probably correlated with use of deodorant, and probably hair removal as part of new levels of self care, which included more frequent washing.
Washing of hair after licking pussy is advised otherwise one's partner will know where one has been and what one has been doing:D.
Sven. World, Finca, Artemis. Retired in Dec 2014 if I remember right. I loved her hairy legs and arms.Women (and men) shave underarms, legs, and genitals more than they used to. They don't was any more than they used to. Maybe deodorant is a bit more common, but not that much. (If anything, one needs less deodorant when shaven.).
Back when women had hairy underarms, they didn't wash less frequently!
I have 10 hours in Frankfurt central from 1200-2200 hrs on a Friday and looking for the best FKK in terms of women. Looking for all types, all sizes, my style is fake pornstar look or tiny gymnast type. Getting to Sharks will be a hassle but Mainhattan is close. Is it worth the 2 hour round trip to Sharks?I would recommend Sharks. Mainhattan is closer and also pleasant, but I've found the girls at Sharks to be more plentiful and desirable, and the facility is larger (and more to my liking). If you drive or take a taxi, then the round-trip should be just a half-hour each way. I certainly think that's worth it. If you are taking public transport then it will be longer. I still think it would be worth it, but that's because I am not in Frankfurt often so I am willing to travel a little longer for the best club.
ExpatLover
01-07-17, 23:33
I have 10 hours in Frankfurt central from 1200-2200 hrs on a Friday and looking for the best FKK in terms of women. Looking for all types, all sizes, my style is fake pornstar look or tiny gymnast type. Getting to Sharks will be a hassle but Mainhattan is close. Is it worth the 2 hour round trip to Sharks?Strongly recommend you as others to go to Shark, you can't be disappointed by the LU on a Friday afternoon, if you choose to go to Oase and you are not happy about the LU it will be costly and time consuming to move to Shark so better to go directly to Shark.
Member #4581
01-08-17, 05:22
Shaving for women is something that razor companies had to promote. Just like they had to promote the concept of shaving for men in those countries where men didn't shave regularly, going back in history. First, with armpits, then may be legs, and then finally the Bush. Also, I suspect oral sex was much less practiced by the general public if you go back 30 years ago. I don't have any stats handy, but I bet it is more common in every day life today than it was a few decades ago. Shaving seems a natural consequence for those practicing oral sex.
If I see porn from the 80's, many female stars had a decent Bush, or at least a triangle and some. Now, almost all of them are completely shaved. Even almost all male talent is shaved in porn today, and that was absolutely not the case 25 years ago. And these porn guys DO need to be shaved, more than the casual FKK visitors let alone those regular married couples out in the boonies.
I am not into DATY in the clubs and I can't even imagine going down on a bushy woman that has been fucked 10 times already on that day by a bunch of mangers. Yuck.
Shaving for women is something that razor companies had to promote. Just like they had to promote the concept of shaving for men in those countries where men didn't shave regularly, going back in history. First, with armpits, then may be legs, and then finally the Bush.
Male shaving goes back at least to the Romans. As for female shaving, it is clearly documented that this resulted from an advertizing campaign by a razor company about 100 years ago.
Also, I suspect oral sex was much less practiced by the general public if you go back 30 years ago. I don't have any stats handy, but I bet it is more common in every day life today than it was a few decades ago. Shaving seems a natural consequence for those practicing oral sex.
I don't know about that.
A decent Bush? Jeb Bush? Maybe that is why they didn't vote for him. He was too old fashioned! And Rude Gillettani supported the guy with the wig. With the Iraq war, I believe the era of the Bushes are long gone. The weapons of mass destruction clearly didn't pack enough juice, and the Bushes were just all about hyping it.
UltraHappy
01-08-17, 13:16
https://www.amazon.de/Saunakilt-BIO-Baumwolle-Klettverschluss-Gummizug-aufgesetzte/dp/B00522NERM
I think 5 E, Pirates Park and ROM have them.
HB.Problem is that I can use something like 6-8 towels over the course of a full Saturday in the club. Not enough room in my suitcase for all those towels!
Curious. Do Pirates Park or Rom sell these towels also? (for example, Palace sells new club robes as souvenirs). It wouldn't make sense to pay for shipping from Amazon. De all the way back to the States. The shipping alone would cost way more than the towel itself.
Hessen Bub
01-08-17, 16:03
You wouldn't use 6-8 robes, would you? So you use the towels for shower and sauna, leaving the sauna kilt dry.
HB.
Strongly recommend you as others to go to Shark, you can't be disappointed by the LU on a Friday afternoon, if you choose to go to Oase and you are not happy about the LU it will be costly and time consuming to move to Shark so better to go directly to Shark.Well given sharks lineup is slightly better on dayshift while Oase lineup is better on nightshift (maybe just my personal opinnion?) I agree it might be best to check out Sharks first. But that is the only reason. I have been disappointed at Sharks a few times for sure. Maybe not on a Friday though, but still I could see that happen too if unlucky enough.
UltraHappy
01-08-17, 20:06
You wouldn't use 6-8 robes, would you? So you use the towels for shower and sauna, leaving the sauna kilt dry.
HB.Ah, you're brilliant! Didn't think of that.
Hessen Bub
01-08-17, 21:29
Ah, you're brilliant! Didn't think of that.Always happy to help. :)
HB.
Well given sharks lineup is slightly better on dayshift while Oase lineup is better on nightshift (maybe just my personal opinnion?) I agree it might be best to check out Sharks first. But that is the only reason. I have been disappointed at Sharks a few times for sure. Maybe not on a Friday though, but still I could see that happen too if unlucky enough.Good observation. Sharks doesn't require girls to come in for specific shifts, so the best girls get there in the afternoon and leave starting around 2100. The best girls are gone by midnight. Oase makes the girls stay for the entirety of a shift, so if a girl does not get there for first shift, then they come later and have to stay until midnight or close. Since many girls want to work the prime hours but cannot wake up early enough to get there for 1st or 2nd shift, you end up having a better late night casting at Oase.
Trans Atlantic
01-09-17, 14:54
Here's a business idea.
Arrange organized FKK tours for geriatrics. Drive up to GoldenTime with a motorcoach filled with 90 year olds. Send bill to German government.
http://time.com/4628414/germany-paid-sex-elderly-patients/
The Green Party lawmaker says she can imagine authorities "financing sexual assistance"
A German opposition lawmaker has been criticized for suggesting on Sunday that authorities could subsidize paid sex for patients requiring nursing care.
The Green Party's spokeswoman on care policy, Elisabeth Scharfenberg, told Welt am Sonntag newspaper that she could imagine authorities financing sexual assistance.
Prostitution has been legal in Germany since 2002 and the newspaper also wrote that Scharfenbergs suggestion has its roots in a system based in the Netherlands, where applicants have to prove a medical need and show that they are otherwise unable to pay for a sex worker themselves.
Governing Social Democrats lawmaker Karl Lauterbach told Bild daily on Monday that the country did not need paid prostitution in homes for the elderly, and certainly not on prescription, Associated Press reports.
Perhaps GoldenTime's look as a home for the elderly was ahead of its time after all.
http://time.com/4628414/germany-paid-sex-elderly-patients/This already exists in some countries. Really handicapped patients can get a couple of hours once a month or whatever with a sex provider.
There are sex providers (also in Germany, though the health insurance doesn't yet pay for it) which work for only such customers. There are also erotic-massage providers and prostitutes who advertise that they do this as well. Of course, a handicapped person could pay a prostitute like anyone else, but it's probably better to have someone who knows what she is getting into.
Do FKK clubs provide things like mouth wash, tooth brush, razor, and shaving creams? If not, I will bring them myself.
Thanks!
Citizen Kane
01-16-17, 21:00
Do FKK clubs provide things like mouth wash, tooth brush, razor, and shaving creams? If not, I will bring them myself.
Thanks!Some clubs have mouthwash (and even hair gel!) but you're basically on your own with the rest. You won't need your own shower gel.
Some clubs have mouthwash (and even hair gel!) but you're basically on your own with the rest. You won't need your own shower gel.Thanks Citizen Kane, do you know if Sharks has mouth wash?
Do FKK clubs provide things like mouth wash, tooth brush, razor, and shaving creams? If not, I will bring them myself.
Thanks!Mouth wash at Samya, Sharks, Aca Gold, Oceans, Globe, History. Ch, Wellcum. At. Sold at Oase.
Teeth brush at Oceans and Harmony Seevetal. Sold at Oase.
UltraHappy
01-17-17, 00:20
Do FKK clubs provide things like mouth wash, tooth brush, razor, and shaving creams? If not, I will bring them myself.
Thanks!To build on the reply below, Sharks has mouthwash. Oase does not (except little ones they make you buy for 5 Euros a piece). All other clubs, bring your own just to be on the safe side. No clubs have the other stuff you asked about.
Girls will supply condoms and lube, but if you have your own preferred condom brand, you can bring those too.
You will want to bring your own deodorant as well. Most guys just bring deodorant, mouthwash, and condoms (if they have their own preferred brand). Some guys bring body lotion too since taking many showers throughout the day in the winter will dry out your skin very quickly.
Most guys use the club-supplied shower slippers but you can bring your own if you prefer your own waterproof slippers for some reason.
Some guys bring some cash with them too just in case the "true love" thing doesn't work out for them in the club.
Some guys bring some cash with them too just in case the "true love" thing doesn't work out for them in the club.Haha. Cute! Palace has free mouthwash as well.
Solo Traveler
01-17-17, 01:06
Most guys use the club-supplied shower slippers but you can bring your own if you prefer your own waterproof slippers for some reason.The only thing a punter should prepare for himself when visiting an FKK club is a pair of water-proof sport sandals.
Google "Plantar wart" picture and the cause of it.
One should never walk in bare foot in the public places.
I have got of them years ago. It is not a serious disease but very annoying.
Because I do not drive in Germany, I always visit clubs by trains and buses.
When I visit a club, I will have my backpack with me.
In my backpack, I will bring my own sandals, valuables, and other digital gadgets.
Anything that you think you will use in the club, you can carry with you in your backpack.
These are great in lieu of mouthwash, much more convenient. Little strips that melt on your tongue and work really well. I always get the cinnamon ones.
Horny Harry
01-17-17, 11:03
These are great in lieu of mouthwash, much more convenient. Little strips that melt on your tongue and work really well. I always get the cinnamon ones.Are those also sold in Europe? So far I've only seen them in the US.
Mouth wash at Samya, Sharks, Aca Gold, Oceans, Globe, History. Ch, Wellcum. At. Sold at Oase.
Teeth brush at Oceans and Harmony Seevetal. Sold at Oase.Good list. (Plus mentioned Palace with mouth wash). Toothbrushes are sold at Artemis for 5euro too.
I guess more and more fkks are learning. In Macau all the sauans have free mouthwash, toothbrushes, free barber blades, q tips etc etc.
UltraHappy
01-17-17, 13:49
These are great in lieu of mouthwash, much more convenient. Little strips that melt on your tongue and work really well. I always get the cinnamon ones.These are great for giving one a fresh pleasant-smelling breath but they lack the cleaning / disinfectant action that an alcohol mouthwash provides.
Although I have not seen this Listerine brand of strips available in Europe, I have seen a number of these strips sold under different brands. I even found these breath strips in Romania once, but they weren't as strong as the Listerine brand.
It is a surprise for visitors from some countries that it is etiquette never to walk in communal showers with bare feet. So, good point everybody. Germany is a good example to us.
Maybe there should be a law forbidding barefoot bathing: it could be added to an existing law :(
I guess touching door handles could also be banned.
Hessen Bub
01-17-17, 16:54
it is etiquette never to walk in communal showers with bare feet. It is? Since when?
HB.
Horny Harry
01-17-17, 17:22
It is? Since when?
HB.Most gyms have a sign in the shower / sauna area saying that you can't go barefoot.
Perhaps try visiting a gym a bit more often in 2017? 😉.
Most gyms have a sign in the shower / sauna area saying that you can't go barefoot.
Perhaps try visiting a gym a bit more often in 2017? 😉.I have been to 3 different gyms the last week. And no signs like that here where I live (not Germany though). However these FKK shower floors tend to be much much more slippery than the shower floors at the 2 gyms I normally go to. So in an fkk I wouldnt dream about not wearing slippers. But it is not the same everywhere.
it is etiquette never to walk in communal showers with bare feet. Most seem to go barefoot in my experience, maybe 30% don't.
It is a surprise for visitors from some countries that it is etiquette never to walk in communal showers with bare feet. So, good point everybody. Germany is a good example to us.
Maybe there should be a law forbidding barefoot bathing: it could be added to an existing law :(
I guess touching door handles could also be banned.There's a thing called Athlete's foot which I believe is the reason one should always wear your sandals. Anyone who goes to the clubs enough comes to the conclusion to buy your own. I used to step out of my sandals into the showers to keep my sandals from being water logged but soon found out what Athlete's foot is. Plus the fact that some people [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the showers. Thus it makes sense to wear sandals all the time. If you're going to use the club provided sandals make sure you give them a good spray of the disinfectant spray usually found near the sandals. Some clubs don't take the time to disinfect them before putting them back in the racks. Just my humble opinion.
Are those also sold in Europe? So far I've only seen them in the US.I have always brought mine from USA so I don't know, but you can get pretty much everything online, right? All different flavors with shipping worldwide on ebay as I write this.
Ironically some of the toxins in the disinfect spray or wash are much worse health hazards than some harmless yet smelly [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). But not many think about this. Water is the key. And lots of it.
Solo Traveler
01-18-17, 13:09
There's a thing called Athlete's foot which I believe is the reason one should always wear your sandals.And plantar warts, too.
Both of them are common skin disease caused by using barefoot to walk in a wet environment.
I got plantar warts before. From then on, I have learned never walk barefoot or share unclean shoes with other people in public places.
This also makes me think about BBFS.
If a punter can easily get plantar warts or athlete's foot by walking barefoot in a brothel, what will a punter get by having BBFS with the prostitutes.
So, I will never try AO in my life.
ExpatLover
01-18-17, 20:41
And plantar warts, too.
Both of them are common skin disease caused by using barefoot to walk in a wet environment.
I got plantar warts before. From then on, I have learned never walk barefoot or share unclean shoes with other people in public places.
This also makes me think about BBFS.
If a punter can easily get plantar warts or athlete's foot by walking barefoot in a brothel, what will a punter get by having BBFS with the prostitutes.
So, I will never try AO in my life.What a clever report, sometimes I try to explain to others that is crazy to have sex without condom in a German FKK but the guys are thinking that I am psycho rigid or a moralist but they just are not aware about how risky it is.
ExpatLover
01-18-17, 20:47
I have always brought mine from USA so I don't know, but you can get pretty much everything online, right? All different flavors with shipping worldwide on ebay as I write this.If you afraid to get some disease from the floor or in the showers I am really wondering which kind of things you are doing with the girls knowing that even just kissing is 100 times riskier and I don t speak about oral sex.
If you afraid to get some disease from the floor or in the showers I am really wondering which kind of things you are doing with the girls knowing that even just kissing is 100 times riskier and I don t speak about oral sex.I don't know WTF you are talking about, I'm not afraid of any of those things. I just don't like having bad breath!
Horny Harry
01-19-17, 09:17
Has anyone more than me seen the review written by pseudonym Gregory Chandler when searching FKK Artemis at Google?
Wow, this man must be really pissed off at the Artemis or maybe he is suffering by a mental illness? His review has been picked away from Google several times but he keep writing the same word over and over again.
Is it really that bad at the Artemis, I have visited the club about 40 times in the past years. I have never seen this criminality he speaks about.
I hope it's okay to put his review out here.
WARNING!! ARTEMIS AND ARTEMIS' CUSTOMERS ARE TARGETED FOR MURDEROUS BOMBINGS BY ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.
My research shows that Artemis is a dangerous place with lots of criminal activity. The Berlin, Germany police raided Artemis in April 2016. The news reports are that the massive April 2016 raid had about 1,000 police officers. (Internet search: Artemis-Berlin April 2016 police raid) If you want to avoid run-ins with the police, stay away. People have been robbed at Artemis. Shootings and stabbings have taken place at Artemis. The Artemis staff and women are rude. I am told that the staff and women at Artemis are intentionally rude. I am told that a customer, with good manners, should still expect rude conduct from the Artemis staff and women. The comments below also inform about rude service or no service at Artemis. If you are a tourist, rude service should be expected at Artemis. There is the illegal sex trafficking of women at Artemis. The sex trafficking aspect of the business may explain the rudeness of the women. The women are, perhaps, rude because they are forced to work at a horrible place against their will. The reports are that many women have quit working at Artemis because the managers have forced women to have unpaid and unprotected sex with the owners and managers. The Berlin Hell's Angels motorcycle gang is active in the criminal affairs of Artemis. Among other matters, the police were investigating a murder with an alleged Artemis and Hell Angels connection. The women working at Artemis cheat men out of money. The managers are lazy, stupid, incompetent, and have no control over the staff and women. Some of these managers were jailed by the Berlin police in April 2016. I note the comment below by Remy Martin: "I hope this club shuts down and the owner gets cancer. " WOW! That must be the world's worst review of a bad business. I must agree with the comment below by Abdullah Alharthi that Artemis is a bad and dangerous place. The business should be given less than ZERO STARS. STAY AWAY.
UPDATE TO ORIGINAL REVIEW.
Earlier, a fake posting was done, on behalf of Artemis, about my review. The fake posting was removed recently.
I, however, continue to research Artemis. On January 12,2017, a poster named Mr. Ho stated, on the International Sex Guide, that: Artemis now is like any low end brothel and is full of older fat girls.
Based on Mr. Ho's comments, Artemis continues to fall in quality after the April 2016 raid by the Berlin police. In addition, Artemis is negligent about the number of prostitutes working at Artemis with AIDS / HIV. Given the number of ugly and diseased prostitutes working at Artemis, the business will continue to suffer.
My extensive research shows that the Berlin police have carried protesters away from the Artemis premises. People have protested Artemis' sexual abuse of women. (Internet search: Artemis-Berlin-Femen) Police have also carried drug dealers and other criminals away from Artemis. During the April 2016 raid, the police carried Artemis' managers away from the business.
Artemis is a dangerous place. If one decides to visit Artemis, one should travel there with weapons to defend oneself against unprovoked attacks and stealth assaults.
My interviews also inform that Islamic terror groups have targeted Artemis for bombings that will result in the destruction of Artemis and the murder of persons at Artemis. Many Muslims in Germany have suffered unprovoked attacks by motorcycle gangs. (Internet search: German motorcycle gangs attack Muslims) These Muslims are angry that Artemis engages in criminal activity with motorcycle gangs.
I will report my findings to the USA government. I will recommend that the US government issue a travel advisory informing US citizens to stay away from Artemis because of criminal activity, and Islamic terrorism. I will also recommend that the US government ban US military personnel and federal government employees from going to Artemis.
Wow!
In his next review I guess he will write that all the girls are aliens from an other planet who will eat your blood. I saw this in the Artemis thread, but I think it applies to all FKK clubs, so I moved it here.
Well, I guess everybody can call me paranoid, but actually I've sometimes been wondering the very same thing: to what extent are FKK clubs a target for IS?
Think about it, how difficult would it be for a few guys armed with AK47's and a couple of hand grenades and explosives to cause havoc and carnage inside any FKK club, similar to Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan or Pulse (Orlando)? Basically these people HATE the way we live and they HATE our freedoms, and IMHO the sex industry would be a prime target to illustrate the 'decadence' of the Western world.
Think about it, how difficult would it be for a few guys armed with AK47's and a couple of hand grenades and explosives to cause havoc and carnage inside any FKK club, similar to Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan or Pulse (Orlando)? Basically these people HATE the way we live and they HATE our freedoms, and IMHO the sex industry would be a prime target to illustrate the 'decadence' of the Western world.There are several sides of this. The one you point out is one. I personally don't buy it. A smart terrorist would be 100% political and never attack civilians unless in case of collateral damage. The whole attack on civilians paradigm is orchestrated and fake. It makes absolutely zero sense and is the dumbest thing to do ever. A smart terrorist with the 'fake Muslim plot in the back of his head' would without a doubt go for the banks and central banks leaders especially. Any other agenda is like saying Muslim terrorists are the dumbest fucks in the entire world.
And lastly, there are lots of Muslims benefiting from the FKK scene economically. Plus these biker gangs aren't the best ones to get on your neck. And they are not the normal victim of fear (if you still buy the msm fake paradigm take on how it works).
(Plus Amnesty wants prostitution legalized globally, and there is a reason for that (overpopulation). so brothels won't be targeted, just find the thin red line.)
I saw this in the Artemis thread, but I think it applies to all FKK clubs, so I moved it here.
Well, I guess everybody can call me paranoid, but actually I've sometimes been wondering the very same thing: to what extent are FKK clubs a target for IS?
Think about it, how difficult would it be for a few guys armed with AK47's and a couple of hand grenades and explosives to cause havoc and carnage inside any FKK club, similar to Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan or Pulse (Orlando)? Basically these people HATE the way we live and they HATE our freedoms, and IMHO the sex industry would be a prime target to illustrate the 'decadence' of the Western world.I'm going to take a wild guess. American? American. Hate our freedoms? What does that even mean?
Listen mate, the risk is practically nonexistent. I'm not some Islamic apologist claiming attacks don't happen, I'm a guy telling you to look at the probabilities of this occurring and involving you. Never fails to baffle me how people worry about things like terrorism and then get in to drive their car. You face much likelier threats to your safety but because they don't grab the headlines you all but ignore them. If you want to do something serious towards minimizing threats to yourself I'd monitor my cholesterol instead. Thank God for this intrinsic paranoia that keeps the intelligence services afloat; billions all for the purpose of minimizing an already minimal threat that would involve minimal numbers.
The risk of being killed by an ISIS fanatic in Germany is minimal when compared to the fact that there are over 30,000 deaths each year from guns in the US.
I'm more worried about the unavoidable passive smoking I do when I visit FKKs.
UltraHappy
01-19-17, 17:08
I'm going to take a wild guess. American? American. Hate our freedoms? What does that even mean?
Listen mate, the risk is practically nonexistent. Never fails to baffle me how people worry about things like terrorism and then get in to drive their car. You face much likelier threats to your safety but because they don't grab the headlines you all but ignore them. If you want to do something serious towards minimizing threats to yourself I'd monitor my cholesterol instead.
And lastly, there are lots of muslims benefitting from the FKK scene economically. Plus these biker gangs arent the best ones to get on your neck. And they are not the normal victim of fear
History shows that Christians & Muslims can, even in toughest of times, at least agree on one thing.
All this talk reminds me of the 1998 Film "West Beirut" that depicts the events of the 1975 brutal civil war waged between the Christians and Muslims. In this civil war, Beirut is partitioned along a Muslim-Christian line and is divided into East and West Beirut. A sort of no-mans land is created at the dividing line between East and West Beirut that is extremely dangerous to cross because snipers are stationed on either side of the dividing line and will shoot anyone attempting to cross the Muslim-Christian line.
As it turns out, the one big brothel in the city is located in the Olive Quarter, which happens to be smack in the middle of the no-mans land between East and West Beirut.
While neither side could agree on much of anything, they did all come to a sacred agreement that was honored by both sides. Regardless of which side you were on, if you were traveling to the brothel, the protocol was that you would conspicuously hold up a bra while entering no-mans land on your way to the brothel (sort of like a white surrender flag). That way, the fighters all knew where you were going and so you would be assured safe passage and no one would shoot you. No fighter could shoot anyone on the way to the brothel of course, because then how would that fighter then be assured safe passage to the brothel when he had to go there?
Indeed, all of the important peace negotiations between the prominent politicians of the time occurred at the brothel because this was the only safe neutral ground where politicians from both sides could safely travel to and meet at.
Apparently, it is also said that the prominent madam of the brothel at the time was instrumental in brokering meetings between both sides and prevailing on the stubborn men to, well, not be so stubborn.
It's nice to know that even in the starkest of conflicts, men can still come together and agree on the most important necessities in life!
Horny Harry
01-19-17, 17:54
There are several sides of this. The one you point out is one. I personally don't buy it. A smart terrorist would be 100% political and never attack civillians unless in case of collateral damage. The whole attack on civillians paradigm is orchestrated and fake. It makes absolutely zero sense and is the dumbest thing to do ever. A smart terrorist with the 'fake muslim plot in the back of his head' would without a doubt go for the banks and central banks leaders especially. Any other agenda is like saying muslim terrorists are the dumbest fucks in the entire world...
And lastly, there are lots of muslims benefitting from the FKK scene economically. Pluss these biker gangs arent the best ones to get on your neck. And they are not the normal victim of fear (if you still buy the msm fake paradim take on how it works).
(Pluss Amnesty wants prostitution legallized globally, and there is a reason for that (overpopulation). so brothels won't be targetted... just find the thin red line...)Well, I don't even know where to begin.
1) "A smart terrorist would be 100% political and never attack civillians unless in case of collateral damage. " To the contrary, remember the people who died in that Berlin Christmas Market exactly 1 month ago, or the visitors of Bataclan, or the passengers in that rain in Madrid, or the people in the Twin Towers, or the folks in that bus in London, or the visitors of that concert in Bataclan? Were they "collateral damage" or perhaps the prime targets? Read a newspaper or alternative media once in a while, civilians are usually the PRIME target in terrorist attacks.
2) "And lastly, there are lots of muslims benefitting from the FKK scene economically. Pluss these biker gangs arent the best ones to get on your neck. " You honestly think a couple of tough bikers will protect you from guys with AK47's, hand grenades and high grade explosives? By the way, I haven't seen too many bikers wearing skull caps and praying 5 x per day to Mecca. Besides, these things are considered "haram" from a conservative muslim viewpoint, so they won't hesitate to try to hurt that business.
3) "Pluss Amnesty wants prostitution legallized globally" Errrr, yes. And? What on EARTH does Amnesty have to do with particular terrorism treats? You honestly think that the bad guys will say: "oh wait, let's not attack the sex industry, because Amnesty wouldn't like that." 😂
4) "Pluss" should be with one "s. ".
I'm going to take a wild guess. American? American. Hate our freedoms? What does that even mean?
Listen mate, the risk is practically nonexistent. I'm not some Islamic apologist claiming attacks don't happen, I'm a guy telling you to look at the probabilities of this occurring and involving you. Never fails to baffle me how people worry about things like terrorism and then get in to drive their car. You face much likelier threats to your safety but because they don't grab the headlines you all but ignore them. If you want to do something serious towards minimizing threats to yourself I'd monitor my cholesterol instead. Thank God for this intrinsic paranoia that keeps the intelligence services afloat; billions all for the purpose of minimizing an already minimal threat that would involve minimal numbers.Errr, nope, not American. I'm European. You're American by any chance?
1) "Hate our freedoms? What does that even mean?" You're obviously not living in Europe, or perhaps not following any (alternative) media because otherwise you'd know what it means. Plenty of salafists out there who want to introduce Sharia Law in Europe, plenty of fundamental nut cases who want to outlaw public nudity, plenty of fundamentalists who even get upset about a girl wearing a bra in a Hunkemller advert at a busstop. Just imagine what these guys think of an FKK club?! If you believe that those people are an extremely small minority invented by the intelligence services then you are very effectively brainwashed by the politically correct mainstream media. The same mainstream media by the way who keep on painting a rosy picture and brushing all warnings and criticism aside under the pretence that everyone who doesn't agree with the politically correct narrative is a racist, a neo-nazi or a xenophobe.
2) "I'm a guy telling you to look at the probabilities of this occurring and involving you. " There are only a handful of top FKK clubs in Germany, that raises the probabilities quite a bit I would say.
When you carefully read and listen to the media (even the politically correct mainstream & government funded media) in Germany and Western-Europe, you'll find that the police and intelligence services are completely overwhelmed and are desperately trying to stay one step ahead of these wackos. A very good example is the guy who ploughed into that Christmas Market in Berlin last month, who was frequently on the radar of the police and intelligence services but eventually they do not have to manpower to monitor every nutcase 24/7.
Hessen Bub
01-19-17, 18:16
Don't forget to take off your shoes when going into the sauna or steambath. And if you can't live with the deadly risk of going barefoot, stay outside.
HB.
Citizen Kane
01-19-17, 18:37
2) "And lastly, there are lots of muslims benefitting from the FKK scene economically. Pluss these biker gangs arent the best ones to get on your neck. " You honestly think a couple of tough bikers will protect you from guys with AK47's, hand grenades and high grade explosives? By the way, I haven't seen too many bikers wearing skull caps and praying 5 x per day to Mecca. Besides, these things are considered "haram" from a conservative muslim viewpoint, so they won't hesitate to try to hurt that business.
Muslims have killed far more of their own kind than non-muslims over the years but maybe that's due more to population distribution than anything else.
Horny Harry, I think you need to read my post in a different way. I won't go into all the details here, but you missed every single little subtle point I was trying to project.
Solo Traveler
01-20-17, 04:31
If you think about it logically.
FKK clubs have more than 72 women.
As a result, why would you want to sacrifice your life to gain only 72 women?
You can fuck hundreds or even thousands of women in FKK clubs, and pay them only 50 Euro, 40 Euro, or even 30 Euro per session.
That's why FKK clubs will never be the last venue to be under attack. LOL.
FKK clubs have more than 72 women.
But the problem is you don't find a virgin at a FKK club and these guys need virgins bc they don't like criticism. LOL.
Up until recently I've only managed an annual mongering trip to various locations around Europe, some more successful than others!! I will happily offer my findings and reviews of such trips at some point but I'd thought I'd start with my must recent.
Firstly, I've long come to the conclusion that it does not matter which airport you fly to in Europe, because a 6-8 HR European train Journey is far better than getting stressed out on UK roads trying to get into a London Airport for the sake of a £10 Ryan air flight. As I live 5 hrs from London, I decided on this occasion to fly to Bristol to Basel, Easyjet quid20 or close too.
Don't get mugged though, a taxi transfer to Basel itself will cost you €35 on a bad day, take a local bus. I didn't have any plans to holiday in Basel itself because it looked a bit of a shithole, but as it was a late flight and no onward trains till morning, I thought I might as well check out the mongering scene. I checked myself into an Easy hotel (it was easy), and my research told me that there were 'Sex Bars", known as Kontaktbars, basically you walk in, get a beer and there will be girls hanging out at the bar in civies. This is important because a few of the pubs were just rooms on the side of family restaurants. I hadn't heard of this before, so thought I'd check them out. Unfortunately they opened later in the evening so my plan be was to check out FKK Basel, Amerbachstrasse 45, easy to find but it is reasonably unmarked and set back a bit from the street. It's 69 CHf entrance and everything else incl beer is free. (Says 3 on the website but I didn't pay for any).
The club is small, like a quaint FKK. Just not much more than a town house, there is a hot tub downstairs that seats 6-8 max a small sauna type affair and upstairs is a bar / lounge area with a porn cinema on the side, like a large living room. On the approach to the bar area there are a few doors which lead off to average size bedrooms.
The night I was there which was a Friday, there was about 40 blokes and 15-20 women. I grabbed a beer, had a wander around and sat on a leather couch opposite a Topless girl who turned out to be local!! Blimey. She was 26, nice bod 7/10 looks but she had glasses on. I'm a sucker for a woman in glasses. Anyway we ended up chatting, I bought her a couple of lady drinks which were reasonably priced and I stayed with her for 4 hours. We fucked once in a room, no upsell just full on GFE, then carried on drinking on the couch, she was sat close to me naked all the time with the occasional kiss and rub. We went into the Kino, there were other 'couples' in there. Discreetly another girl stands by the curtain to kind of discourage single men from a free live sex show. We fucked in there with another 3 or 4 punters, nice.
If you fuck in a room, it's 10 CHF extra room charge, The cinema is whatever the girl charges.
I actually liked this club, it's not an FKK really, more like having a sex party in your mates house and as its so cheap to get to from the UK I'd probably use this little stop by again, I had a great time with Anya from Switzerland. The free sausages and bread kept me going.
On the way back to the Hotel I decided to check out the KontactBars, more out of curiosity than the need for anymore sex, I went to Klingeli Bar, but there are lots of others on the Webergasse area of the town. I walked in, had a beer and just stood drinking it, a lovely African BBW snuggled up to me. Anyway, go to Basel and check it out!!
Next morning I took the train to Freiburg which will be my next post.
After a rather chilled out night of Pilsner and shagging in FKK Basel I took the train next day to Freiburg, it's like a small, quaint, Bavarian type town which promises a warm welcome and plenty of Haus Braus. I checked into the hotel Schiller which was alright, 68 a room. It's well located to the old town. A short 15 taxi fare gets you to FKK Palast, I was feeling wary of this place, not many reviews and the ones that were available were a bit up and down. The club itself is pleasant, one floor design. Hot tub outside which even in February was actually quite pleasant. The beers are extra, coke is free, I didn't eat any food here but it's included in the 60 euro entrance fee. I'm happy in general to spend 4-6 hrs in a FKK club, but Palast was a bit boring. I got hassled as soon as I sat down by 2 blond girls who took a bit of offense when I said I wanted to chill for a bit. The third chunkier blond Offered to go to the bar and we both had beer on my wristband. We chatted for a bit and she was non pushy, gave me a bit of a run down of the place. I didn't really fancy her, so said I'd see her later. Palast was a bit thin on the ground for girls, and although I just enjoyed the resting, I did rack up a beer tab, there is a largish indoor swimming pool which is good and a small kino opposite. After 3 hrs and not really being approached I was thinking I might shower and bugger off, but at the last minute in the Kino a punky type girl (think, girl with the dragon tattoo) came and sat by me. She was not my normal type, small tits, short hair, piercings, tats and lippy. Asked if I'd by her a drink and slightly out of character I said no drink, let's just go to a room and fuck.
I've clocked 18-20 FKKs now and she was the best shag I've had so far. It's changed my outlook on working girls, up until that point I've been looking for this 'ideal' in my head and it's not about that. Many have said before, the FKK club experience is all about the girl. So I'd happily head to FKK Palast again, Freiburg is a cool little town, check out the Keidel Mineral-Thermalbad whilst your there (like a none sex FKK) just lots of naked people chilling out and also the Hausbrauerei. God I love Germany. I had a bit of hassle outside Palast involving a shitty rover driven by some Turkish heroes, fuck them. I'll wait for the cab inside the club next time, get another beer. Palast is a bit remote. Just to warn you. It is perfect if you are going by car.
ShovelKing
01-21-17, 03:46
Hi,
I am visiting Germany to experience FKK for the 1st time. My main goal is have as much sex in public or in kino. Which FKKs are best for that type of action? Have any one seen guys doing anal or blowing their loads publicly? Are there enough spinner willing to engage in this type of action or do they tend to prefer sex in rooms?
Hi,
I am visiting Germany to experience FKK for the 1st time. My main goal is have as much sex in public or in kino. Which FKKs are best for that type of action? Have any one seen guys doing anal or blowing their loads publicly? Are there enough spinner willing to engage in this type of action or do they tend to prefer sex in rooms?I have experienced sex in the kinos in most of the FKK clubs I have been too. The best sex I had and saw happening was in FKK Golden Time in Vienna. It definitely starts with the right girl though, some like a bit of exhibitionism and some are real room junkies. If public sex is your thing, ask the girls in any FKK you'll soon know if they are into it or not.
Have fun.
Vito Corleone
01-22-17, 04:46
Hi,
I am visiting Germany to experience FKK for the 1st time. My main goal is have as much sex in public or in kino. Which FKKs are best for that type of action? Have any one seen guys doing anal or blowing their loads publicly? Are there enough spinner willing to engage in this type of action or do they tend to prefer sex in rooms?Bernds or attend a party at one of the big clubs with a porn room. During peak times, people do not want to wait 2-3 hours for a room so they do their thing in the kino.
Hi,
I am visiting Germany to experience FKK for the 1st time. My main goal is have as much sex in public or in kino. Which FKKs are best for that type of action? Have any one seen guys doing anal or blowing their loads publicly? Are there enough spinner willing to engage in this type of action or do they tend to prefer sex in rooms?If you want public action then a gangbang party is better than an FKK where public action is nowadays not very common.
ShovelKing
01-22-17, 17:22
If you want public action then a gangbang party is better than an FKK where public action is nowadays not very common.
Bernds or attend a party at one of the big clubs with a porn room. During peak times, people do not want to wait 2-3 hours for a room so they do their thing in the kino.
I have experienced sex in the kinos in most of the FKK clubs I have been too. The best sex I had and saw happening was in FKK Golden Time in Vienna. It definitely starts with the right girl though, some like a bit of exhibitionism and some are real room junkies. If public sex is your thing, ask the girls in any FKK you'll soon know if they are into it or not.
Have fun.Thanks for the Info. I will only be staying Friday, Saturday and Sunday and planning on visiting Oase, Sharks and World. Which day should I visit each one?
Member #4581
01-22-17, 17:34
Everyone wants to see public action but not many guys want to show and be seen. How will you get public action if every guy is like you? The best way to get public action is if you take the initiative, not be shy, and demand it from as many girls as possible. A substantial, if not majority or even most of the girls, are willing to fuck anywhere for those euro notes. I had several girls (who claimed they had never fucked in public) wiling to do the nasty in the open in the Oase kino or sharks red couches with very little prodding. It can be done. Just try it. Best of all, unlike kissing or BLS or other things for which some girls demand extra payments, no one had ever asked me extra money for fucking or blowing in the open. Ice princess Janine who notoriously does not kiss etc suffered from zero shyness and was actually more animated than normal as she rode me enthusiastically on the red couches. More than once. One time, she seemed to like it so much, she took her German regular upstairs and fucked him on the same couches, right after my session with her (I know it because I took up Nina and was doing same to her, while we watched the live porn on the next couch).
BigBuddy69
01-22-17, 19:00
I'm curious, where are the red couches you're speaking about? I had sex in the garden of World, in the former kino of LR (downstairs) and in the main room of Babylon Elsdorf.
ExpatLover
01-22-17, 19:32
Everyone wants to see public action but not many guys want to show and be seen. How will you get public action if every guy is like you? The best way to get public action is if you take the initiative, not be shy, and demand it from as many girls as possible. A substantial, if not majority or even most of the girls, are willing to fuck anywhere for those euro notes. I had several girls (who claimed they had never fucked in public) wiling to do the nasty in the open in the Oase kino or sharks red couches with very little prodding. It can be done. Just try it. Best of all, unlike kissing or BLS or other things for which some girls demand extra payments, no one had ever asked me extra money for fucking or blowing in the open. Ice princess Janine who notoriously does not kiss etc suffered from zero shyness and was actually more animated than normal as she rode me enthusiastically on the red couches. More than once. One time, she seemed to like it so much, she took her German regular upstairs and fucked him on the same couches, right after my session with her (I know it because I took up Nina and was doing same to her, while we watched the live porn on the next couch).Sorry I have 0 interest to see public action, even I don't find it sexy or nice. Most of the time the guy is overweight or old and girls will do many things to earn money. Some fantasy should remain fantasy, and I think I get far better sex by choosing a girl for 2 or 3 hours make her feel relax asking her what she likes and listening to her and her body.
ExpatLover
01-22-17, 19:40
Hi,
I am visiting Germany to experience FKK for the 1st time. My main goal is have as much sex in public or in kino. Which FKKs are best for that type of action? Have any one seen guys doing anal or blowing their loads publicly? Are there enough spinner willing to engage in this type of action or do they tend to prefer sex in rooms?In 15 years of FKK visits, 100 times and more in all the big FKK never saw what you are dreaming about, now if you pay enough may be you can get it but I am quite sure that even you will pay a lot some girls will refuse to do anal in public etc. Like even you give 1000 euros they will not do AO, and like always those girls are the most beautiful, young etc. They are aware of their qualities and they don t need to do everything. I know girls who will not do anal or CIM even for a lot of money.
Member #4581
01-22-17, 20:25
Sorry I have 0 interest to see public action, even I don't find it sexy or nice. Most of the time the guy is overweight or old and girls will do many things to earn money. Some fantasy should remain fantasy, and I think I get far better sex by choosing a girl for 2 or 3 hours make her feel relax asking her what she likes and listening to her and her body.Not a problem, but some men do have interest in seeing public action. My comment was directed to the person who was interested and asked about it.
I have the option on an upcoming trip to stay a night or two in Munich / Salzburg. Have looked at the Munich thread but looks like only Sunshine is of any real note and it's close to city centre. I will not be driving.
The Munich thread appears largely unused. Can any senior members offer any advice please on good FKK clubs or Sauna clubs to attend in the area. Augsburg looks quite a distance without a car. Many thanks in anticipation.
In Munich FKK Sunshine is still the best option. On HP you find pictures of some girls also from Misha. She was some years ago a top fav of me at FKK Atlanta and optic was a 9,75! Top class service, perfect english and now around 26 yo. On pictures cups looks now a bit like silicone but it could be still natural bc she had fantastic see+ natural cups.
In Munich FKK Sunshine is still the best option. On HP you find pictures of some girls also from Misha. She was some years ago a top fav of me at FKK Atlanta and optic was a 9,75! Top class service, perfect english and now around 26 yo. On pictures cups looks now a bit like silicone but it could be still natural bc she had fantastic see+ natural cups.Thanks for that. Much appreciated. I'll confess I don't know what HP is? Are you able to tell me please? Misha sounds terrific - I've been onto the FKK Sunshine website and she is there. That makes my decision easy! Thanks again
I've meant Home Page/website of Sunshine but you've found already. Yes Misha is listed on the HP of Sunshine but that doesn't mean she works all the time there. Usually she works some weeks at Sunshine and than makes some weeks break at home. But she is all the time listed on the Sunshine pictures even if she is on vacation.
Hi,
I am visiting Germany to experience FKK for the 1st time. My main goal is have as much sex in public or in kino. Which FKKs are best for that type of action? Have any one seen guys doing anal or blowing their loads publicly? Are there enough spinner willing to engage in this type of action or do they tend to prefer sex in rooms?In Bernds Schieferhof and Babylon this is still very common. Also in most RTCs (like Verena, Grimberg, Dietzenbach, etc).
In larger clubs like Oase and Golden Time public action disappeared almost completely several years ago.
In CH, Globe still is a large club where you can experience this.
In Bernds Schieferhof and Babylon this is still very common. Also in most RTCs (like Verena, Grimberg, Dietzenbach, etc).
In larger clubs like Oase and Golden Time public action disappeared almost completely several years ago.
In CH, Globe still is a large club where you can experience this.Yes for Globe or Jn kino at History. Ch. Also in kino at GT, PHG. Also in now small kino at World. Upstairs at Finca. In kino at YY NL.
How are zurich clubs like.
http://www.club-globe.ch/
http://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/
In comparison to sharks, oase, world etc. I was planning a day trip from frankfurt to zurich to see the worth available there. I have been always curious about how are the girls different from frankfurt in this beautiful city.
Horny Harry
01-24-17, 14:19
How are zurich clubs like.
http://www.club-globe.ch/
http://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/
In comparison to sharks, oase, world etc. I was planning a day trip from frankfurt to zurich to see the worth available there. I have been always curious about how are the girls different from frankfurt in this beautiful city.Wow! I just had a look on Globe's website. Although heavily airbrushed, I have to say that most girls look absolutely stunning.
Banana Boi
01-24-17, 14:27
Wow! I just had a look on Globe's website. Although heavily airbrushed, I have to say that most girls look absolutely stunning.But worth 90 euro entry and 130 euro per half hour?
Not sure how old the other photos are but the photos of Kate are from 2013. Kate is still beautiful but who knows how others may have aged over 4 years.
I have to say that most girls look absolutely stunning.Yep on their website, reality looks different, I know some Globe girls wouldn't recognize her on pictures without knowing the nick. LOL.
Horny Harry
01-24-17, 14:59
But worth 90 euro entry and 130 euro per half hour?
Not sure how old the other photos are but the photos of Kate are from 2013. Kate is still beautiful but who knows how others may have aged over 4 years.Nope, those prices are insane, but unfortunately quite in line with the general level of prices of Switzerland.
Yep on their website, reality looks different, I know some Globe girls wouldn't recognize her on pictures without knowing the nick. LOL.Haha, yes off course. I was already afraid of that, hence I used to word "airbrushed. ".
Hessen Bub
01-24-17, 16:45
How are zurich clubs like.
In comparison to sharks, oase, world etc. Expensive.
HB.
But worth 90 euro entry and 130 euro per half hour?
Not sure how old the other photos are but the photos of Kate are from 2013. Kate is still beautiful but who knows how others may have aged over 4 years.When I discovered Alice / Kate at Sharks on a April Monday at Sharks, I think it was on 18, she was more beautiful and classier look, than on past photos, even maybe not so slim. She knows how I loved her new body. Even Moldovan Romanian, but one of the most classy, with Madi World, met in FKK. Both are 2 beautiful women. Sometimes I regret to pay 50 for some girls, last Saturday I did regret my 40 with Ionella at Aca, but I never regret my 1 h30 for 420 with Kate, because she has always been so lovely, since first smile.
How are zurich clubs like.
In comparison to sharks, oase, world etc.If you factor in the price of flights to Zurick (or Geneva) and the price of hotels you will spend at least twice the amount compared to Germany.
ExpatLover
01-24-17, 18:10
Yes for Globe or Jn kino at History. Ch. Also in kino at GT, PHG. Also in now small kino at World. Upstairs at Finca. In kino at YY NL.You are right but small kino at world can t be consider as public space after more than 100 visits in this club I never saw any public action in the bar space.
Wow! I just had a look on Globe's website. Although heavily airbrushed, I have to say that most girls look absolutely stunning.They have even slimmed the photos after they were taken, for extra fakiness effect. But I have to admit some of the girls there seems to have potential if I wrap my mind around how they would look on a non-faked picture. Like Anka, Andreea Palace, Angela, Aylin, Bianca, Electra, Evelyn, Francesca, Giannina, Helen, Kitty, Maya, Nadine, Roberta, Stefie etc. But most hide their faces. So its hard to tell.. and I am certain I would change half my list once I saw all those girls in real life. That lineup looks extremely long though... and so many names starting with A (lol). Its like 200++ girls there. I thought Globe just had 60-70 girls at most on any particular weekend night. If even that much...
ExpatLover
01-24-17, 20:08
They have even slimmed the photos after they were taken, for extra fakiness effect. But I have to admit some of the girls there seems to have potential if I wrap my mind around how they would look on a non-faked picture. Like Anka, Andreea Palace, Angela, Aylin, Bianca, Electra, Evelyn, Francesca, Giannina, Helen, Kitty, Maya, Nadine, Roberta, Stefie etc. But most hide their faces. So its hard to tell.. and I am certain I would change half my list once I saw all those girls in real life. That lineup looks extremely long though... and so many names starting with A (lol). Its like 200++ girls there. I thought Globe just had 60-70 girls at most on any particular weekend night. If even that much...Hi Pistons,
It doesn't matter, let all the guys go to Switzerland if they believe they will get more and better service there, so we will have less monger in Germany. Good for us.
Hessen Bub
01-24-17, 20:24
About 90% of the girls you wouldn't recognize if you compare the photoshopped pictures with reality. That's my experience when I was there. And if you scroll down the list, for plenty of girls you could even put a different name on the photo and nobody would notice.
HB.
They have even slimmed the photos after they were taken, for extra fakiness effect. But I have to admit some of the girls there seems to have potential if I wrap my mind around how they would look on a non-faked picture. Like Anka, Andreea Palace, Angela, Aylin, Bianca, Electra, Evelyn, Francesca, Giannina, Helen, Kitty, Maya, Nadine, Roberta, Stefie etc. But most hide their faces. So its hard to tell.. and I am certain I would change half my list once I saw all those girls in real life. That lineup looks extremely long though... and so many names starting with A (lol). Its like 200++ girls there. I thought Globe just had 60-70 girls at most on any particular weekend night. If even that much...Girls working are girls on tagesplan.
Top dancer, small blond Stefie. Ro was my first girl at Globe on mid June, because Kate was off and I didn't know yet Isabella was now working at Globe. Stefie was a great GF for 1 hour for 280 in room, and I was sorry not to repeat with her when she came again to me. She really deserves a second room, but on end of June, I had Kate and Isabella for many rooms until 24 December. Now, maybe I will meet there soon a Sharks model, the prettiest for me.
My girls services were all high GFE level at Globe. History is also very high level. Expensive, but high quality.
You are right but small kino at world can t be consider as public space after more than 100 visits in this club I never saw any public action in the bar space.Before, when kino was at Shisha place, I saw at Globe. Also in the garden on Summer.
My girls services were all high GFE level at Globe. History is also very high level. Expensive, but high quality.Indeed, I have the same experience. But it is only appreciated by mongers who are keen on consistent service levels, including DFK, BBBJ, etc (which is always a big challenge in Sharks, Oase, etc, where most girls require 100 Euro session to perform decently.
BTW, maybe better to continu this discussion in the Swiss thread and not bore others with this.
Starting point was the question about public pre-sales/sex, which in smaller NRW clubs as well as in CH still can be found.
But it is only appreciated by mongers who are keen on consistent service levels, including DFK, BBBJ, etc (which is always a big challenge in Sharks, Oase, etc, where most girls require 100 Euro session to perform decently.But even with 100 euro sessions (either for 30 or 60 minutes) German FKK clubs still cheaper than most Swiss clubs.
Top dancer, small blond Stefie. Ro was my first girl at Globe on mid JuneShe looks a bit cartoony with that neat pose and the airbrush effects. Like a marvel superheroine, or a bit like that Ronaldo jump pose... Short though? Like 1. 55? One of the few you can actually see the face of too, so i believe she is a top girl there...
But I do wonder if Aylin is Crina at Palace... she was a find there... anybody that can confirm?
RubMeister100
01-25-17, 03:49
I spent 3 days in Frankfurt and went to 4 clubs:
I rented a car for 3 days for 60 euros. Well worth the cost. No hassle's no problems. I have done the train, the taxis etc and rental car is THE way to go. Pre-load the Frankfurt area on Google Maps onto your phone and you will get anywhere you want. Easy parking and you can go as fast as you want on the A5 Autobahn!
I stayed at (and recommend) the Hotel Contel which is a 7 minute walk from Sharks. Nice room, kind of dated but clean, comfortable and 60 euros a night. Breakfast was good.
Sharks was #1 for me this weekend because it had the most uber-hot girls and the highest median in terms of good looking women. Food was second only to Oase. Facilities are first class. Didn't like the smoking everywhere but got used to it. The Romanians have taken over and the behavior is getting -well- sharky. I found the Romanian girls tend to demand more and want to give less.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt
Number 2 in my personal rating for this weekend was Palace.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1867-FKK-Palace-Frankfurt
Plenty of good looking girls, but fewer stunning women than Sharks. Less ethnic variety than I liked here but the sharky behavior that Palace was known for has been dramatically reduced, if not eliminated. The black bands work and the girls are less demanding and upsell than other clubs.
Number 3 was Mainhatten. My first time there and I suppose I liked it overall. No stunning beauties, enough good looking girls to find someone you like, but some not to attractive ones too. Spa / Sauna lounge area is really nice to take a nap or relax. Food was not good. I'd try it again if I hear there are really hot girls but if on a Saturday night there were none, then I think the other clubs are more attractive for the uber hot women.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3172-FKK-Mainhattan-Frankfurt
Last on my list was my almost 30 year favorite. Oase.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1990199#post1990199.
My first FKK experience was in the late 1980's at the original Sudfass in Frankfurt. I soon learned of Oase and the nearby Taunus Therme (sauna park-not sexual) and would make it a point to stop by for a few days.
However, this trip was disappointing. Maybe it was because it was a Sunday afternoon, but there was not one single uber-hot woman there. And I would say it was half ok girls and half no-way girls. Food was great though.
If anyone can recommend their personal favorite places for uber-hot women please let me know! I am thinking next for Medellin or Switzerland FKK or maybe NRW FKK.
Thanks for all the previous advice. I hope my reports are helpful to new first time FKK'ers.
ExpatLover
01-25-17, 05:22
I spent 3 days in Frankfurt and went to 4 clubs:
I rented a car for 3 days for 60 euros. Well worth the cost. No hassle's no problems. I have done the train, the taxis etc and rental car is THE way to go. Pre-load the Frankfurt area on Google Maps onto your phone and you will get anywhere you want. Easy parking and you can go as fast as you want on the A5 Autobahn!
I stayed at (and recommend) the Hotel Contel which is a 7 minute walk from Sharks. Nice room, kind of dated but clean, comfortable and 60 euros a night. Breakfast was good.
Sharks was #1 for me this weekend because it had the most uber-hot girls and the highest median in terms of good looking women. Food was second only to Oase. Facilities are first class. Didn't like the smoking everywhere but got used to it. The Romanians have taken over and the behavior is getting -well- sharky. I found the Romanian girls tend to demand more and want to give less.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt
Number 2 in my personal rating for this weekend was Palace..Thanks for the report, for me Romanian girls are sweet and very clean and that is far enough for me, I am not looking for porn stars, and GFE is what I like the most. Yes Shark has the best LU, Mainhattan food is also quite correct for me but that is a matter of taste.
She looks a bit cartoony with that neat pose and the airbrush effects. Like a marvel superheroine, or a bit like that Ronaldo jump pose... Short though? Like 1. 55? One of the few you can actually see the face of too, so i believe she is a top girl there...
But I do wonder if Aylin is Crina at Palace... she was a find there... anybody that can confirm?Yes, Stefie is a short Romanian blond with hair extensions, super sexy dancer. For me, the best dancer seen at Globe. Always smiling, sweet, a real GFE becoming a little tornado in room. Not the busiest, but when girls work for 4 hours in room in a day, they make more than 1000. One was often busy from 4/5 pm to midnight. I didn't notice Aylin when I visited.
PL, I only had 1 room with Aurelia for 1 hour, on first day I saw her at Samya. She was so pretty with her ponytail. Nice behavior but not really kissing and not sensual enough, what I call woman type, for me. At Sharks, she used to turn around and was often not busy. At Globe, she is smiling and seems to get business. She had many tour now at Globe, after a short try at Bumsalp.
Maxime, I met great GFE at Sharks, World, Ina or Tatiana at Oase, Sofi at Mainhattan, for 100 for 1 hour, without the faintest upselling. My problem for my last visits in Frankfurt was no dreamed beauty for me, and I need beauty to really enjoy. Even casting was lower in December, but I had beauties at Globe and now at History, before maybe returning to Globe very soon for a model. Only those who experience Globe or History girls services can know about GFE level there. Only LR can compete for me for GFE level.
Gentleman,
I will be renting a car to hit Frankfurt big 5 FKK in early April. This is my first time driving outside the States and Canada. I have done some home works. I bought myself a TomTom World GPS with Europe map in it. This one has a mounting so it will suck it to the windshield. I have input my hotel's address and all those FKK address in the favorite and ready to roll.
Hera are some questions:
1) Can I just mount this one on my rent car windshield without violation of traffic law in Germany? (of course, I will take it out when I park. In California, you cannot mount it directly on your windshield).
2) If parking lot for FKK (Sharks, Oase etc) are full, where can I park so It will not be towed away? Any street sign in German I need to know?
3) I am going to visit Rothenburg and Heidelberg. Any FKK around that part of country?
Thanks in advance.
Dave.
RubMeister100
01-27-17, 06:29
Rental car is a great idea. Plenty of parking at Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and Palace.
No idea about windshield mounting laws.
Most traffic signs in Germany are international symbols. You are not likely going to get into trouble parking where you are not supposed to. It is not like Italy where the fucking mafia government uses sneaky traffic systems and signs to trap you into paying huge fines. After my last trip to Italy, I got over 600 euros of tickets trickling in over the next year. Bullshit tickets that have no practical way to dispute. Mostly in the Firenze municipality. Never again will I set foot in that part of Italy and I will never drive there again.
Rental car is a great idea. Plenty of parking at Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and Palace.
No idea about windshield mounting laws.
Most traffic signs in Germany are international symbols. You are not likely going to get into trouble parking where you are not supposed to. It is not like Italy where the fucking mafia government uses sneaky traffic systems and signs to trap you into paying huge fines. After my last trip to Italy, I got over 600 euros of tickets trickling in over the next year. Bullshit tickets that have no practical way to dispute. Mostly in the Firenze municipality. Never again will I set foot in that part of Italy and I will never drive there again.Firenza center is just a small town but a real museum everywhere, so park just around and walk in center which is not more than 2 kms on 2 kms. Then no problem and You can enjoy wonderful architecture. Sienna is also wonderful. And some Italian women are so sexy.
PussyLiccker
01-27-17, 18:18
Never had trouble finding parking at Oase, but Mainhattan and Sharks. If you arrive early, no trouble. Busy hrs and later hrs parking will likely be filled.
If I can't find parking at Sharks, I just drive out to the main street and look for parking along the road further down. After business hrs, it should be fine.
What you will commonly see is, any entrance way, nobody will park confront of.
De warns you of things, lots of signs. I like that. Lots if visual signs. Google De traffic signs.
For the most part, you probably won't run into street parking issues around those places, but like anywhere, look around for signs of any kind. I've seen signs with images of towing truck, that should be obvious. Also, circle with X. Use Google translate for signs in German.
Don't see why window mounting will be a problem, see others in De with mounted devices.
Gentleman,
3) I am going to visit Rothenburg and Heidelberg. Any FKK around that part of country?
Thanks in advance.
Dave.Dave, This map may help you, and it has been recently updated, so listed establishments should all be open for business.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cdUhaudpMLfwNesXihonhSL6AzU&usp=sharing
Gentleman,
I will be renting a car to hit Frankfurt big 5 FKK in early April. This is my first time driving outside the States and Canada. I have done some home works. I bought myself a TomTom World GPS with Europe map in it. This one has a mounting so it will suck it to the windshield. I have input my hotel's address and all those FKK address in the favorite and ready to roll.
Hera are some questions:
1) Can I just mount this one on my rent car windshield without violation of traffic law in Germany? (of course, I will take it out when I park. In California, you cannot mount it directly on your windshield).
2) If parking lot for FKK (Sharks, Oase etc) are full, where can I park so It will not be towed away? Any street sign in German I need to know?
3) I am going to visit Rothenburg and Heidelberg. Any FKK around that part of country?
Thanks in advance.
Dave.First, relax, GPS and coyote are allowed when You drive. Speed is in km / h and not miles in Germany. Germans may be the best drivers, at least in Western Europe. Really no problem to park on Oase parking, never full. For Sharks, easy to park around if parking is full.
Relax and enjoy your visit. Closer to Heidelberg, You can visit FKK First, less tourists there, FKK Atlanta brother, with free foods.
2) If parking lot for FKK (Sharks, Oase etc) are full, where can I park so It will not be towed away? Any street sign in German I need to know?
Besides the obvious (self-explanatory) signs, you should be aware of the one below. The arrow points to where you're not allowed to park. Also, look around if you see parking ticket dispensers (alternatively, look if other parked cars have a ticket below the windshield). Note that often you only need to buy a ticket during normal opening hours but this is not consistent from place to place. Don't feel dumb if you can't make out whether parking is allowed or not at a particular spot because people who've been living here for decades still scratch their heads about this quite often. Luckily, FKKs are in industrial areas that empty themselves of people and cars after business hours. You will have more parking issues when you drive back to your hotel so one advice is to pick your hotel wisely. In Booking.com you can send the hotel a message like "Parking needed" ("Parkplatz benoetigt") when you clinch your booking. The nearest FKK of sorts I can think of not too far from Heidelberg is FKK First (Sinsheim), but it's still 35km away and it's a third-tier FKK. Sharks in Darmstadt is further away (64km) but may take about the same time as FKK First. Nothing really close but very doable if you avoid peak traffic hours.
Horny Harry
01-27-17, 19:28
1) Can I just mount this one on my rent car windshield without violation of traffic law in Germany? (of course, I will take it out when I park. In California, you cannot mount it directly on your windshield).
Never heard of a law in Europe / Germany forbidding to mount a navigation thingie on the windshield and I'm 99,9% sure it's no problem, but perhaps you beter quickly check with the rental company when you pick up your car. As far as driving is concerned, use your common sense and just be on the cautious side if you're unsure. Remember,
millions of non-European tourists and business people drive rental cars every year around in Europe, so it can't be rocket science.
As XXL already posted, the signs for No Parking used in Europe are probably a bit different than those used in the US.
I did a quick search and found this excellent (although it's perhaps a bit too elaborate) website with lots of explanations:
http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/zeichen2.shtml and here: http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/zeichen.shtml
Maybe it's an idea to print it out and keep it inside your rental car if you're not sure about the parking signs.
The things that are probably most different form the US/Canada are;
1) Priority roads and yield signs (see here: http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/zeichen.shtml)
2) If there are no traffic lights (or out of order) AND no signs, then it means that "right has the right of way." You have to yield to all cars coming from the right. (sometimes you have this situation on big industrial estates)
3) Speed limits (just stick to a speed that you're comfortable with, don't go racing if you're not used to the higher speeds in Germany)
4) Be aware of pedestrians and bicycle riders. Pedestrians at a pedestrian crossing (like the one on the album cover of Abbey Road from The Beatles) ALWAYS have the right of way, and you are required to stop/yield when you see someone who wants to cross the road.
I've never heard of any problem with screen mounted satnavs: I use one all the time. Obviously placed in a low position where it doesn't obscure the visibility.
Horny Harry identifies one occasional issue: where there are no road markings traffic from the right has priority. If in doubt just go slowly and see what the other driver does
On entering a built up area go at 50kph if there are no other signs. Speed cameras are quite often set up within 50 metres or so of the beginning of the limit
As Rub says, unlike Italy, there are no rules set out in such a way as to trick strangers. On Germany everything is normally clear.
Generally driving in Germany is easy. Enjoy.
On autobahns keep a very close eye on the rear view for cars coming at anything up to 250kph.Also if a vehicle indicates to change lane it will usually assume you will get out of its way
. Luckily, FKKs are in industrial areas that empty themselves of people and cars after business hours. You will have more parking issues when you drive back to your hotel so one advice is to pick your hotel wisely. In Booking.com you can send the hotel a message like "Parking needed" ("Parkplatz benoetigt") when you clinch your booking. The nearest FKK of sorts I can think of not too far from Heidelberg is FKK First (Sinsheim), but it's still 35km away and it's a third-tier FKK. Sharks in Darmstadt is further away (64km) but may take about the same time as FKK First. Nothing really close but very doable if you avoid peak traffic hours.But if you got a rental car, driving 64 km in that area, or even 110 km up to palace / mainhatten is done in just 35 or 55 minutes on those roads. The A5 in that area is the best road in europe probably.
The A5 in that area is the best road in europe probably.But in no case on weekdays between 7 till 9 am and 5 till 7 pm if you don't like an average speed of 10 miles per hour.
But in no case on weekdays between 7 till 9 am and 5 till 7 pm if you don't like an average speed of 10 miles per hour.Probably like in most places. Personally I've yet to hit a jam on the 8-lane stretch south of frankfurt. But the 6-lane stretch north of frankfurt it seems to be traffic jams all the time. Then again, I allways try to avoid those hours mentionned there too. The google maps traffic advisor thingy is really handy too... but heidelberg-darmstadt, is A5 or A67 best?
Guys,
Thank a lot! All those info are very useful, I will for sure use them as guide. I have been to Europe many times for business and family vacation plus monger trip. Never had I rented a car. It was always.
Flight -train-cab-walk. I think having a rental car will enable me to have much better mobility and have a chance to explore more places.
Thanks again.
Visited Artemis today and found myself a red head (Avril from Romania). Not a natural one, but still had the milky pale skin I love, and was my favorite girl there. Will write a few more details of my visit on the Artemis page. Thanks for the advice, fellow mongers.
First of all, I have to agree with those who have been writing that the quality of the looks is down at the Big 5 in the Frankfurt area. I just found it incredibly difficult to find many stunners at any of the tier one FKK clubs in Hessen. On past trips, I would always see at least one or two I just had to have. But not this time! So, you either settle on somebody (like Beatrice my friend Craiova), or you just pass and go without sessioning.
Second, it just tickles me to death to see how the girls work the Asian guys that come in. I mean so many of those guys don't "session". They get "managed". They get "processed"! They come in and the tutes are all over them, and the Asian guys go for the first girls to come at them. Then several minutes later they're out of the room! Quick and easy money! And the stories the girls tell me about their Asian clients' dicks! Geez!
Third, I recall a discussion here once where the issue of gypsy girls came up. I was reminded of that because one of the girls at Oase (Romanian) was telling me how shocked she was to see two gypsy girls in the club using their vulgar, low-class language all loud and in the open. She said she thought Oase was supposed to be a nice gentleman's club that would not allow such low class gypsies to work there.
And lastly, damn that Syzgies man! Every time now when I see a tute with a down-turned nose, I think "witch" after Syzgies said that shit! I never used to think that, but now I do thanks to Syzgies, and it makes it harder for me to choose a girl with a down-turned nose even though everything else might be OK about her. Now, because of Syzgies, any girl I choose must have an upturned nose, or at least a straight nose. No down-turned "witch" noses!
I have spoken to a few of the girls about the upcoming change in the law effective July 1st. Some don't even seem to know about it LOL! And then for those who do, they all came across as very nonchalant and unconcerned, with several saying that they didn't think it would work. It was interesting to compare their relaxed attitudes and demeanor about it all compared to all of the angst you see here on the board. One girl said, "Let's just wait and see what happens. "Sounds like some good advice to me, but still I'm glad I was able to get a trip in prior to the new legislation going into effect. I'm partaking in BBBJ / CIM more than I normally do because if it, which drives my overall costs up of course LOL! But, I want to get it and enjoy while it's not complicated hehehe!
Recommendation for a Favorite club on a Monday afternoon?
Recommendation for a Favorite club on a Monday afternoon?Probably thinking NRW club.
Hessen Bub
02-05-17, 17:48
Second, it just tickles me to death to see how the girls work the Asian guys that come in. I mean so many of those guys don't "session". They get "managed". They get "processed"! They come in and the tutes are all over them, and the Asian guys go for the first girls to come at them. Then several minutes later they're out of the room! Quick and easy money! And the stories the girls tell me about their Asian clients' dicks! Geez!It's been like that for the last 10 years.
HB.
Member #4581
02-05-17, 20:03
I have spoken to a few of the girls about the upcoming change in the law effective July 1st. Some don't even seem to know about it LOL! And then for those who do, they all came across as very nonchalant and unconcerned, with several saying that they didn't think it would work. It was interesting to compare their relaxed attitudes and demeanor about it all compared to all of the angst you see here on the board. One girl said, "Let's just wait and see what happens. "Sounds like some good advice to me, but still I'm glad I was able to get a trip in prior to the new legislation going into effect. I'm partaking in BBBJ / CIM more than I normally do because if it, which drives my overall costs up of course LOL! But, I want to get it and enjoy while it's not complicated hehehe!It makes sense that mongers are preoccupied with BBBJ ban and girls are not. Mongers, especially those who comment here frequently, are hard core and BBBJ is very important for them. Many of them are flying to Germany from far away lands and they need to know what they get in return for so much money and effort. On the other hand, girls not the long term thinker types. We discussed it several times. Many don't have the concept of long term service for example to retain and grow specific customer relationships, it is all about here and now for them. They are also not well informed types and most don't seem to read any news and be informed about current affairs. And from their pov, this ban might or might not happen, and they are already giving a blow job and probably don't care if it is covered or not. So, I am not surprised they have a wait and see attitude.
Recommendation for a Favorite club on a Monday afternoon?Sharks or GT.
It makes sense that mongers are preoccupied with BBBJ ban and girls are not. Mongers, especially those who comment here frequently, are hard core and BBBJ is very important for them. Many of them are flying to Germany from far away lands and they need to know what they get in return for so much money and effort. On the other hand, girls not the long term thinker types. We discussed it several times. Many don't have the concept of long term service for example to retain and grow specific customer relationships, it is all about here and now for them. They are also not well informed types and most don't seem to read any news and be informed about current affairs. And from their pov, this ban might or might not happen, and they are already giving a blow job and probably don't care if it is covered or not. So, I am not surprised they have a wait and see attitude.Yes, well their attitude would change something quick if all of a sudden their clientele starts to go to Austria or Switzerland instead. But, I don't think that will happen on a level that will have a real impact on the business. The hardcore guys on this site (and others) make up only a small subset of the entire monger population. Build and maintain a pussy palace, and mongers will come!
Solo Traveler
02-07-17, 01:38
Second, it just tickles me to death to see how the girls work the Asian guys that come in. I mean so many of those guys don't "session". They get "managed". They get "processed"! They come in and the tutes are all over them, and the Asian guys go for the first girls to come at them. Then several minutes later they're out of the room! Quick and easy money! And the stories the girls tell me about their Asian clients' dicks! Geez!True.
It's common to see many East Asian punters manipulated by the working women.
I see lots of related reports in some Chinese and Japanese punting forums.
For the most part, East Asian men over-paid, got less service, but still very satisfied with what they got (e. G. , pay extra 50 for BBBJ or kissing.).
This is not good.
I am East Asian myself, but I always play the local card, which means I always insist on getting BBBJ+DFK+Covered FS with lots of positions with the minimum basic rate.
I remember there's another member here who used to hold the same idea like I do, but I think he is from Canada or the US, so he's more North American than East Asian.
Maybe I am the only East Asian from East Asia that is fighting against the dishonest working women in FKK Sauna clubs. LOL. Call me Captain East Asian.
Maybe I am the only East Asian from East Asia that is fighting against the dishonest working women in FKK Sauna clubs. LOL. Call me Captain East Asian.Most East Asian people are shy and do not have good oral English (though their reading is much better).
1) They don't know the rules well. 2) extra E50 or E100 is still cheaper than what they could had in East Asia. Girls just take advantage of that. Kind of bully them as much as they can.
Most East Asian people are shy and do not have good oral English (though their reading is much better).
1) They don't know the rules well. 2) extra E50 or E100 is still cheaper than what they could had in East Asia. Girls just take advantage of that. Kind of bully them as much as they can.Some Asians think they can buy girls only for themselves, paying more than club rate, but when girl is bored, she prefers to stop, even she could make more money.
Which FKK club has the most German girls working?
Which FKK club has the most German girls working?Atmos Hamburg, GT Bruggen, Palace Frankfurt, but they are not the best GF.
Which FKK club has the most German girls working?Golden Times and Sharks have a few. Generally you would not have more than 2 to 5% German girls working in prostitution these days in Germany.
Golden Times and Sharks have a few. Generally you would not have more than 2 to 5% German girls working in prostitution these days in Germany.Is the 2-5% figure accurate? From my research it seems you find more German girls working as escorts, massage parlors, and the more high end brothels than FKK Clubs. I'm sure it's more than that.
Which FKK club has the most German girls working?If you want a shot at German girls, then you can also try FKK Babylon Hamburg and FKK Harmony in the Hamburg area as well (many German girls there the night I went). Report on FKK Harmony coming later.
Has anyone been to Tantra FKK in Kaiserslautern, Germany?
I'm possibly visiting a friend who is stationed at Ramstein Airforce Base and the only FKK near that is this Tantra FKK.
The entrance price is only 25 EU seems super cheap but is this worth a stop?
Thanks for the info.
Hessen Bub
02-11-17, 09:44
It's a small club. 5-8 girls max. You just missed Kretta, great girl, she left the club. They do have a list of girls present on their homepage, it's up to date. Club itself is small and a little worn down, it's good for a two or three hour visit but not more. Robe is 5€ extra. Adrianna is good looking, service may vary.
HB.
Tonight I will take a break from the FFK world and spend some time in Hamburg's infamous red light district. Will I take a tute? Probably not. But, I want to check out this scene while I'm here. I understand that even in cold weather there are German tutes standing out on the streets! Damn I'll have to come back when it's warmer as the action just has to be better on the streets with warmer weather. I'm typically not into the street scene, but damn it if I see any pretty, blonde German girl arsch standing on the streets for sale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeUQ_exryL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KyTwTiqabg
Thanks for the info guys. I hope I get to experience Germany this year. BTW, am I the only one who is not paranoid about the new prostitution law like some people here are?
It's a small club. 5-8 girls max. You just missed Kretta, great girl, she left the club. They do have a list of girls present on their homepage, it's up to date. Club itself is small and a little worn down, it's good for a two or three hour visit but not more. Robe is 5 extra. Adrianna is good looking, service may vary.
HB.Was hoping it was a service club since it's small. Might check it out for a couple hours anyways. Thanks for the info!
Hey,
Here's a doozy for yall.
Which 3-5 FKK in all of Germany (thinking Frankfurt-Cologne-Hamburg corridor) would you say is the best? I'm looking for variety, from small intimate spaces to large palaces of fucking. I'm into black Hispanic Turkish women in particulars but my dick knows no race. I've been to sharks and loved it (although only 1/10 women I found attractive, and quite a bit of a ratchet attitude from many). Hot tub and steam room are my sorta thing and essential.
I'm thinking oase then samya then?
Tonight I will take a break from the FFK world and spend some time in Hamburg's infamous red light district. Will I take a tute? Probably not. But, I want to check out this scene while I'm here. I understand that even in cold weather there are German tutes standing out on the streets! Damn I'll have to come back when it's warmer as the action just has to be better on the streets with warmer weather. I'm typically not into the street scene, but damn it if I see any pretty, blonde German girl arsch standing on the streets for sale!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeUQ_exryL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KyTwTiqabgChecked out Herbertstrasse last night and was totally underwhelmed. Definitely a tourist trap, and not even as good as Amsterdam's! Don't get me wrong. There were actually some beautiful women standing / sitting in the windows. But, as an experienced monger you know their service is just going to be rushed and sub-par. Better to save your money for an FKK, or even a good escort to come to your hotel room. I also saw plenty of street tutes standing around. Several appeared to have cute faces, but it was difficult to check them out fully since they were all bundled up. Better to have a look when the weather is not so cold, allowing the tutes to show of more of their wares!
ExpatLover
02-13-17, 21:07
Any information about Karlsruhe area?
Like FKK pirate, point, flamingo island.
How do they compare with each other, how many girls are there on a weekend.I am also looking for any info about FKK Pirate or Point.
BadinSweet
02-14-17, 01:04
Not sure if this is the correct place to ask. Which SIM card or company do you suggest for a not-so-frequent visitor? I'd like to have something that will give me fast internet access for work (LTE) with occasional call and txt. Also, something that will not be deactivated after a non-usage of the number for many months. Would also be nice if I can use this SIM in other EU countries, but not a must. I know most girls use Lebara and have filled up (top up) the card for them before. It seems pretty easy but Lebara doesn't use LTE. I asked someone to do speedtest on Lebara and she was only getting around 3-6 Mb speed on their 4 G network. Thank you for any advices. The attached picture is the available SIMs from the Jet gas station near Rewe market by Sharks.
PussyLiccker
02-14-17, 02:28
I'd like to know as well. Labara at max hspa+ and I get edge in a lot of places, which sucks. Aldi or Lidl sims are the same, they get throttled I believe. The only real LTE with good coverage I've tried is T-mobile. Limited data. At the T-mobile store got 250 megs and got used up quickly. You have credit left over on your sim account, 99 cents for 25 megs LTE, and Edge speeds after for 24 hrs. Top-up at gas stations to have credit to be able to activate 24 HR 25 megs LTE data. I've had extended period of non-use for T-mobile and it was fine. Past 6 months.
So, data is more expensive, but T-mobile is fast and coverage is greater than others I've tried.
I am also looking for any info about FKK Pirate or Point.2 small clubs in Bruchsal, 20 meters between 2 clubs. Point have outside swimming pool. About 15 girls, I had 2 quite pretty Romanians. Cheap entry. Visited on August 2015.
Hermann666
02-14-17, 23:13
Checked out Herbertstrasse last night and was totally underwhelmed. Definitely a tourist trap, and not even as good as Amsterdam's! Don't get me wrong. There were actually some beautiful women standing / sitting in the windows. But, as an experienced monger you know their service is just going to be rushed and sub-par. Better to save your money for an FKK, or even a good escort to come to your hotel room. I also saw plenty of street tutes standing around. Several appeared to have cute faces, but it was difficult to check them out fully since they were all bundled up. Better to have a look when the weather is not so cold, allowing the tutes to show of more of their wares!You should inform yourself about local laws in Hamburg. Picking up pros on the street is illegal and heavily fined in Hamburg except for a few places. Just talking to the girls can have you fined.
You should inform yourself about local laws in Hamburg. Picking up pros on the street is illegal and heavily fined in Hamburg except for a few places. Just talking to the girls can have you fined.I always inform myself very well about these things. Believe me, I know what I'm doing as I don't need any legal troubles. Now, I went on a guided tour before I went around on my own, and the tour guide told us that it is absolutely legal in certain areas of Hamburg at certain times of day. Also saw the same thing on TV with a policeman talking about it! As a matter of fact, where a lot of the girls stand is right across the street from one of the most famous police stations in all of Germany! Doesn't matter anyway since when you break it all down, I'm not nearly as interested in street prostitutes as I am the FKK girls. But as always, like I said I have informed myself extremely well about it all. Now let me educate everybody with a little supplemental info I researched on the net:
A famous landmark is the Davidwache, a police station located on the South side of the Reeperbahn at the cross street Davidstrae. Street prostitution is legal during certain times of the day on Davidstrae. The Herbertstrae, a short side street off the Davidstrae, has prostitutes behind windows waiting for customers. Since 1933, large screens block the view into Herbertstrae from the adjacent streets. Since the 1970's, there have been signs saying that entrance to the street is prohibited for women and juveniles; however, it is a public road which anyone may enter. Many pubs, but also prostitution, can be found on the square of Hans-Albers-Platz south of the Reeperbahn.
Not sure if this is the correct place to ask. Which SIM card or company do you suggest for a not-so-frequent visitor? I'd like to have something that will give me fast internet access for work (LTE) with occasional call and txt. Also, something that will not be deactivated after a non-usage of the number for many months. Would also be nice if I can use this SIM in other EU countries, but not a must. I know most girls use Lebara and have filled up (top up) the card for them before. It seems pretty easy but Lebara doesn't use LTE. I asked someone to do speedtest on Lebara and she was only getting around 3-6 Mb speed on their 4 G network. Thank you for any advices. The attached picture is the available SIMs from the Jet gas station near Rewe market by Sharks.I would like to fly in (either Fra or Dus) and get a car rental and pickup a prepaid sim.
1) I can install and active myself with English instruction.
2) The sim need to nano as I have Iphone 5-6.
3) It can be top up pretty easily with all those 7-11 type of stores or gas station with English instruction.
4) Will last at least 6-8 months if it has not been used for.
The one I have now was purchased from one of phone shop near Frankfurt main train station. It only come in German so I have no idea what those text means. I end it up going to there to top up ever time I am in Germany. It has been that way for more than 2 years.
UltraHappy
02-21-17, 00:33
Just tell the guy at one of the independent phone shops these requirements and they will sell you one. Make sure the guy changes the menu language to English for you at the store. Almost all SIMs support English as an option (not all but it must be changed through the phone tree menu).
I recommend going to an independent shop if you require the SIM to stay active for 6-8 months as most of the name brand cell service stores have shorter validity periods associated with their SIMs (for example, 3-4 months).
Any of the cell phone stores around the Hauptbahnhof can sell you SIMs as described below, for example, any of the shops on Munchner Strasse. Almost all SIMs allow top ups via gas stations. You can even buy the top up cards now but not use them until your later return trip (top ups usually good for 12 months, it will usually state this on your top up card).
I would like to fly in (either Fra or Dus) and get a car rental and pickup a prepaid sim.
1) I can install and active myself with English instruction.
2) The sim need to nano as I have Iphone 5-6.
3) It can be top up pretty easily with all those 7-11 type of stores or gas station with English instruction.
4) Will last at least 6-8 months if it has not been used for.
The one I have now was purchased from one of phone shop near Frankfurt main train station. It only come in German so I have no idea what those text means. I end it up going to there to top up ever time I am in Germany. It has been that way for more than 2 years.
PussyLiccker
02-21-17, 14:23
Dawong, Lebara sims are based off of UK. Once you pop it in and look in the instruction, there is a number to call on inactive state, and option to speak to English rep. Like UH says, pick them up at airport. It expires early unlike T-mobile ones.
After expiration of funds, top it up at the airport telekom shop or gas stations. Or can pick them up at Eletronik market, Real, Lidl, Aldi as well, but Telekom shop will likely activate for ya. Not all gas stations can top it up, but most I think.
If you are in a congested area, the hspa+ connection is enougb speed. I was downloading less than 2 megs rate. Unfortunately, some clubs I attend are remote and get Edge speeds depending on location.
These cheap cards are throttled.
If you'd rather pick up at gas stations, Shell and Aral have sim starter kits. Those kits sizes are nano with micro adapters.
Once I stopped my Lidl in Bruggen, and manager actuallt called and activated my Lidl sim. Very helpful. Telekom shops they will activate it for ya. Give them any address, it gets registered.
Just trying to plan ahead. I have only been to the NRW area and while a like it a lot the travelling can be a little expensive I spent around 250 on taxis and trains in the 4 days. Does such a club exist that has quality girls in the day in terms of looks and service maybe like Acca Velbert but with newer modern facilities like oceans but with lights that work and a good heated pool. Then the club gets bouncing with good music and dancing girls like Samya from around 7 pm?
I think I know the answer but just checking.
Dawong, Lebara sims are based off of UK. Once you pop it in and look in the instruction, there is a number to call on inactive state, and option to speak to English rep. Like UH says, pick them up at airport. It expires early unlike T-mobile ones.
After expiration of funds, top it up at the airport telekom shop or gas stations. Or can pick them up at Eletronik market, Real, Lidl, Aldi as well, but Telekom shop will likely activate for ya. Not all gas stations can top it up, but most I think.
If you are in a congested area, the hspa+ connection is enougb speed. I was downloading less than 2 megs rate. Unfortunately, some clubs I attend are remote and get Edge speeds depending on location.
These cheap cards are throttled.
If you'd rather pick up at gas stations, Shell and Aral have sim starter kits. Those kits sizes are nano with micro adapters.
Once I stopped my Lidl in Bruggen, and manager actually called and activated my Lidl sim. Very helpful. Telekom shops they will activate it for ya. Give them any address, it gets registered.Thanks PL and UH.
The one I got is Ortel. I tried to email support with with no avil. It works good. Everything is setup in English in term of phone itself. It just when I receive text from ortel (like when I top up or when it need more money), the text come in is in German. I tried to ask the guy where I bought from to switch it to English, he said no way to do that. I like the sim and would like to keep that number if I can (I do not want to get new sim every time I land). With that ortel sim, where can I top it up besides those shop around main train station?
Thank a lot.
Dave.
Just trying to plan ahead. I have only been to the NRW area and while a like it a lot the travelling can be a little expensive I spent around 250 on taxis and trains in the 4 days. Does such a club exist that has quality girls in the day in terms of looks and service maybe like Acca Velbert but with newer modern facilities like oceans but with lights that work and a good heated pool. Then the club gets bouncing with good music and dancing girls like Samya from around 7 pm?
I think I know the answer but just checking.250 Eur is a lot for 4 days, you could have rented a car for about 110 Eur for that time, assuming of course that you drive.
Your search for the perfect club will not work, ACA, ACA G, GT are some of the best around, sorry.
ExpatLover
02-21-17, 22:06
Thanks PL and UH.
The one I got is Ortel. I tried to email support with with no avil. It works good. Everything is setup in English in term of phone itself. It just when I receive text from ortel (like when I top up or when it need more money), the text come in is in German. I tried to ask the guy where I bought from to switch it to English, he said no way to do that. I like the sim and would like to keep that number if I can (I do not want to get new sim every time I land). With that ortel sim, where can I top it up besides those shop around main train station?
Thank a lot.
Dave.Ortel or O2 is the same company so you just need to buy a voucher and follow the instructions. Very easy. The SIM is valid at least 1 year.
250 Eur is a lot for 4 days, you could have rented a car for about 110 Eur for that time, assuming of course that you drive.
Your search for the perfect club will not work, ACA, ACA G, GT are some of the best around, sorry.Thanks for the reply appreciate it. I go on holiday for a few days so I like a drink. In any case I can't imagine going to Mondial or Samya and not drinking. Taxi's in NRW are just expensive and don't the German's just love a traffic light.
PussyLiccker
02-21-17, 22:22
Thanks PL and UH.
The one I got is Ortel. I tried to email support with with no avil. It works good. Everything is setup in English in term of phone itself. It just when I receive text from ortel (like when I top up or when it need more money), the text come in is in German. I tried to ask the guy where I bought from to switch it to English, he said no way to do that. I like the sim and would like to keep that number if I can (I do not want to get new sim every time I land). With that ortel sim, where can I top it up besides those shop around main train station?
Thank a lot.
Dave.If that is the case, get ones that are common. Forget about Lidl or Aldi (names of the grocery stores). Lebara and T-mobile are very common.
Getting the ones that are available at most stores / shops makes it easier for ya whenever you are looking to top up. Easy access.
Perhaps there are others that know which other brands are also commonly sold at most locations like gas stations / Real / Electronic shops / airports.
Personally I think Lebara is the most verstile and the cheapest.
250 Eur is a lot for 4 days, you could have rented a car for about 110 Eur for that time, assuming of course that you drive.
Your search for the perfect club will not work, ACA, ACA G, GT are some of the best around, sorry.If anyone is interested these are some taxi prices.
Airport to Acca Gold 17 euro each way.
LR to Dusseldorf centre 33 euro. This was the one I thought was decent value.
Hennef to Bernd's 18 euro each way.
Koln centre to Samya 20 euro each way.
Koln centre to Mondial 22 euro each way.
Plus trains so it was around 250 euro it needs factoring in if you are not planning to hire a car.
Well, my epic journey throughout the Fatherland is done! And what a memorable trip it was too. From the north (Hamburg) to the south (Munich) to the east (Berlin) to the west (Frankfurt), I was set on expanding my knowledge of the German FKK scene. And still, the whole NRW region remains largely unexplored territory for The Cane. And in the end, I could not have dreamed up a more powerful and dramatic way for this chapter in my Book of Monger to end!
One thing I can conclude is that this was my most successful anal expedition to Germany ever! I've totaled everything up, and approximately 60% of my sessions involved butt sex. That's significantly up from my traditional Germany LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) of 40%. And it all could have been even higher if I had butt fucked all of the girls who were offering up their pooty holes to me, but with whom I didn't consummate the act for one reason or another. I was asking myself what in the hell was going on? Not in a bad way of course LOL! But for whatever reason, it seemed like almost everybody was ready to get butt fucked this trip. Even Gina! Damn!
I have to agree with those who have been saying for sometime that the quality of line-ups is down, and that's across virtually all clubs. Of course, there is a pretty girl to be found everywhere, but it just seemed to be harder to spot a stunner anywhere. Although, I cannot agree with Mr. Ho that things are as bad at Artemis as he says. Well, maybe he was there at a particularly bad time. I mean, I found my superstar of the trip at Artemis in Lilia! All I need is one or two a club per visit, and Lilia most definitely checked all the boxes for me! The two other girls I fucked who I would classify as "fine" up there with German Lilia in the looks department are Armenian Bella at FKK Atmos in Hamburg, and then Iranian Bella at FKK Babylon Hamburg. These three get the TC seal of approval as being "fine" as hell. Lilia and the Two Bellas! Sounds like some singing group or some shit LOL! And, their service was quality too.
Now without a doubt, Sharks had the absolute largest line-up of tutes. At the same time, I didn't pick anybody there upon two visits! And it's not that there weren't any pretty girls there. For whatever reason, as I've written before, Sharks just didn't "work" for me. Then I started to think about those all-you-can eat buffet restaurants with lots of food, but maybe you just don't want any of it. Quantity, but quality? Where's the beef? My favorite line-up of all was at FKK Babylon Hamburg. It's a much smaller line-up there, but there were girls there from all over the place, and not just Romania. From Germany to Iran to points in between! This is what I like.
And that brings me to another observation regarding this trip. I fucked a lot more non-Romanian girls (including more German girls) this trip, and that was a welcomed break from the past. Again, I love me some Romies, but it was nice to have a break and an opportunity to "capture different flags" if you will. Going to Hamburg and Berlin provided me with a nice little break from "Bucharest am Main" hehehe! Note that I found the clubs I visited in the Munich area to be dominated by the Romanians. If you want less Romanian and more international / German pussy, try visiting Hamburg and Berlin. NRW is supposed to be good too, but except for GT, I cannot speak on that. GT did have German girls there when I went, and both Artemis German Lilia and World German Mariam told me they had worked at GT in the past. There were other former GT girls at Artemis when I was there.
One of the things I value at a club is good food. I mean, if you're going to go to a club and stay there for hours on end, it's nice to have some decent food to eat. What I can say is that at the clubs where I did eat, the food was pretty decent and kind of standard across the clubs (like the airlines who all seem to be doing the same thing service-wise). Meat, potatoes, salads, soup, bread, pasta, desserts. FKK Atmos had some really tasty pizza, and you can also order up a pizza at Oase (most improved on the food tip) if you want. The only time I was really annoyed at the quality of the food was one night at Artemis. My two other nights there were fine. I think the best food I had on any one particular night was at Sharks when they had some tasty roasted chicken!
Speaking of Artemis, I need to forewarn regarding the cigarette smoke problem there. I had forgotten how smoky the main bar area can get there! I mean, if you're not a smoker it can get to be really, really bad. I noticed Lilia coughing some, and I wondered if she had a cold, and therefore whether or not I really should be kissing her. Well, she explained that it was the cigarette smoke. That it had irritated her throat and was making her sick. This is one reason why she decided to take a little break. To try to get herself well again.
Well guess what? After one night there, I was experiencing the same thing! And by night two I was sick with the same irritated throat and cough she had! It's really, really bad in there the cigarette smoke! They opened the windows on one night, but then the girls (almost all of whom smoke) started to complain that they were cold. In order to cope, I would sit mostly in the back area near the cafeteria. Or, I would sit just outside the main door near the two game machines, but even that offered little relief if girls were standing right on the inside of the door smoking. You can stand more towards the stairs, or even go downstairs to areas where smoking is not allowed. But the real pick-up action is taking place upstairs at the bar! The management really, really should address this smoke issue. I just about don't want to go to Artemis again because of it. How about put up a wall that separates the bar from most of the couches in the back area closer to the cafeteria? Do something!
Anyway, I hope you horny mongers have enjoyed my series of reports from the field as things were happening! If anybody has any questions, just PM me, and I will answer the best that I can. In the meantime, monger on!
PussyLiccker
02-25-17, 19:47
Thanks for the musings TC. Your reports were a fun read, you have a sense of humor about all this. Haha. Dunno if intentional or not, but many laughters reading your reports. Nice to have something so light hearted.
Old country buffet, classic. Haha.
I will be doing some homework on Brazil. Brazil, here I cum!!!
HungryStud101
02-28-17, 01:01
I will be back at my favorite Club Oase in less than a week. I try to travel with US dollars and then exchange them for the local currency. This has not been an issue in the other mongering stops I typically make (Canada, Brazil, Mexico). However, it has not been easy to find a place to exchange US currency that provides a good rate in Germany or Belgium. Any ideas?
I will be at Oase and maybe try Sharks the weekend of the 4th and the 5th. I will return to the Hesse area on the 8th to meet up with a friend of mine. Both of us are carrying cash to cover our tracks. Anyone else find a place to exchange US currency for Euros and obtain a favorable rate in the area of Oase or Sharks? Airports are notoriously bad. How about outside Frankfurt airport?
I will take a few advances on my Credit Cards but I do not want to draw too much attention.
My local see you just offered me 1. 13 and a 12 $ fee to exchange 505 USD and get back 445 Euro and charge a 12 $ fee. There has to be better than this? What about travelers checks?
Great review Cane!
I will be back at my favorite Club Oase in less than a week. I try to travel with US dollars and then exchange them for the local currency. This has not been an issue in the other mongering stops I typically make (Canada, Brazil, Mexico). However, it has not been easy to find a place to exchange US currency that provides a good rate in Germany or Belgium. Any ideas?
I will be at Oase and maybe try Sharks the weekend of the 4th and the 5th. I will return to the Hesse area on the 8th to meet up with a friend of mine. Both of us are carrying cash to cover our tracks. Anyone else find a place to exchange US currency for Euros and obtain a favorable rate in the area of Oase or Sharks? Airports are notoriously bad. How about outside Frankfurt airport?
I will take a few advances on my Credit Cards but I do not want to draw too much attention.
My local see you just offered me 1. 13 and a 12 $ fee to exchange 505 USD and get back 445 Euro and charge a 12 $ fee. There has to be better than this? What about travelers checks?
Great review Cane!I normally get it exchange (either way) at main train station. I think it is called reise bank. I don't remember the rate but it is better than airport for sure. The best way to get cash in Europe is ATM.
There are a lot sparkasse ATM in Friedrichsdolf area.
I normally get it exchange (either way) at main train station. I think it is called reise bank. I don't remember the rate but it is better than airport for sure. The best way to get cash in Europe is ATM.
There are a lot sparkasse ATM in Friedrichsdolf area.Yea Reise bank is great. I usually get my credit advance from them 3 k at a time. They are friendly and helpful. Also ATM is the second best for rates, but for some reason ATM usually limits me at 1 k per withdrawal which is really annoying.
Taunus Sparkasse is near Oase. They have an ok rate. I have no idea why so many americans that I meet in FKK's or in asia keeps bringing so much cash with them. Are you onto some whitewashing? Or does the US banks charge large amounts from taking out money from ATM's? If so, I'd get an account in a european bank if I was you. As there usually are no fees for that here.
I have no idea why so many americans that I meet in FKK's or in asia keeps bringing so much cash with them. Are you onto some whitewashing? Or does the US banks charge large amounts from taking out money from ATM's? If so, I'd get an account in a european bank if I was you. As there usually are no fees for that here.Americans and Asians typically spend more, so the daily ATM limits can be a hindrance.
I've run into married European mongers who withdraw 300 EUR (but immediately stash away 100 EUR for their mongering fund). Do this a once a month for 5-6 months and they have a decent night of FKK debauchery.
Americans and Asians typically spend more, so the daily ATM limits can be a hindrance.
I've run into married European mongers who withdraw 300 EUR (but immediately stash away 100 EUR for their mongering fund). Do this a once a month for 5-6 months and they have a decent night of FKK debauchery.So basically they are whitewashing. No taxes paid to wife... lol
HungryStud101
02-28-17, 04:07
Because we are married and we stuff away money so that we can hobby. In America and Canada and Brazil this works great. In Mexico you don't even have to exchange the USD for local currency. If I go to Europe exchanging USD for Euros is a problem. Withdrawing large amounts of cash is a problem. When I am in Europe on business large cash withdraws from an ATM look suspicious. I need about 300 Euro a day. I can take a small advance on my personal and business credit card but not enough to cover my habit. So I need a place to buy Euro that is not a rip off. Thanks in advance.
Taunus Sparkasse is near Oase. They have an ok rate. I have no idea why so many americans that I meet in FKK's or in asia keeps bringing so much cash with them. Are you onto some whitewashing? Or does the US banks charge large amounts from taking out money from ATM's? If so, I'd get an account in a european bank if I was you. As there usually are no fees for that here.
Trans Atlantic
02-28-17, 15:28
Taunus Sparkasse is near Oase. They have an ok rate. I have no idea why so many americans that I meet in FKK's or in asia keeps bringing so much cash with them. Are you onto some whitewashing? Or does the US banks charge large amounts from taking out money from ATM's? If so, I'd get an account in a european bank if I was you. As there usually are no fees for that here.Americans carrying cash with them are either ignorant that the US marketplace have several no monthly fee no-fx fee ATM accounts available or they are hiding from GF / wife.
Because we are married and we stuff away money so that we can hobby. In America and Canada and Brazil this works great. In Mexico you don't even have to exchange the USD for local currency. If I go to Europe exchanging USD for Euros is a problem. Withdrawing large amounts of cash is a problem. When I am in Europe on business large cash withdraws from an ATM look suspicious. I need about 300 Euro a day. I can take a small advance on my personal and business credit card but not enough to cover my habit. So I need a place to buy Euro that is not a rip off. Thanks in advance.Taking out a cash advance from credit card is already a rip-off. Cash advance fee will already eat up 3-5% the moment the cash comes out.
Does spouse control all finances? Can't you claim the cash withdrawal in Europe is to pay for hotel?
HungryStud101
02-28-17, 16:01
Americans carrying cash with them are either ignorant that the US marketplace have several no monthly fee no-fx fee ATM accounts available or they are hiding from GF / wife.
Taking out a cash advance from credit card is already a rip-off. Cash advance fee will already eat up 3-5% the moment the cash comes out.
Does spouse control all finances? Can't you claim the cash withdrawal in Europe is to pay for hotel?The hotel won't work. My friend and I are going on tours and dining out for Tapas and hitting street bars etc. We will need cash for these I can say. But I can envision going through a minimum of 150Euros for hobby day in Spain and for the days in Germany in the FKKS I would say a minimum of 170 Euros to 350 Euros.
3 days in Spain = 450 Euros
3 days Germany = 900 Euros.
This is a lot of cash advances.
Taking out a cash advance from credit card is already a rip-off. Cash advance fee will already eat up 3-5% the moment the cash comes out.Optionally you just need a better credit card. I only use cash advance on my credit card when I travel. It even gives me bonuses, and zero extra charge. The bet by the bank is that I won't cover it within 45 days.
But using atm's like euronet etc will cost you your mom... and most if not all the fkk's with atm's in the club has these fradulent atm's...
Optionally you just need a better credit card. I only use cash advance on my credit card when I travel. It even gives me bonuses, and zero extra charge. The bet by the bank is that I won't cover it within 45 days.Agreed. My credit card doesn't charge me anything extra as long as I pay it right away. Have better credit or get a better card.
Trans Atlantic
03-01-17, 00:08
Optionally you just need a better credit card. I only use cash advance on my credit card when I travel. It even gives me bonuses, and zero extra charge. The bet by the bank is that I won't cover it within 45 days.
But using atm's like euronet etc will cost you your mom... and most if not all the fkk's with atm's in the club has these fradulent atm's...Not sure I follow. I don't think there is a credit card on the market with zero cash advance fees and / or interest not accruing the day the cash comes out of the machine.
I have no problems with euronet ATMs. Doesn't cost anything extra than any other ATMs when using Schwab or Capital One debit cards.
The hotel won't work. My friend and I are going on tours and dining out for Tapas and hitting street bars etc. We will need cash for these I can say. But I can envision going through a minimum of 150Euros for hobby day in Spain and for the days in Germany in the FKKS I would say a minimum of 170 Euros to 350 Euros.
3 days in Spain = 450 Euros
3 days Germany = 900 Euros.
This is a lot of cash advances.
Assuming you are American and live near a Capital One branch, convince spouse to open joint account at Capital One. You then open one covertly as well but don't link it with the joint account and do electronic statements/notices. As a result, her ever finding out the debit card from the covert account may not raise suspicion as she would think it is for the joint account. Load the covert account up with your hidden cash stash only when you go on trip and withdraw as soon as possible when in Europe so you minimize interest reported to IRS. If under $10 in interest, bank does not report to IRS.
Not sure I follow. I don't think there is a credit card on the market with zero cash advance fees and / or interest not accruing the day the cash comes out of the machine.
I have no problems with euronet ATMs. Doesn't cost anything extra than any other ATMs when using Schwab or Capital One debit cards.Where I live there are a few. Bank Norwegian (same as the airline) has the best one as you also aquire these bonus points from it. Bank Santander is another one, but I avoid using that as the interest rate can go stellar if you forget to pay back one month. Then there is one or two other ones where I live as well. But no need to have too many... but at least one of them also have this other bonus point program. A bit complicated though, so I just stick to that airline bank. I guess it helps fund their airplanes too... as an intermediate from the higher interest rate on bonds etc...
Euronet, Cashzone etc etc doesn't charge direct fees. But they give you a worse excange rate. Much worse sometimes.
Trans Atlantic
03-01-17, 00:22
Where I live there are a few. Bank Norwegian (same as the airline) has the best one as you also aquire these bonus points from it. Bank Santander is another one, but I avoid using that as the interest rate can go stellar if you forget to pay back one month. Then there is one or two other ones where I live as well. But no need to have too many...
Euronet, Cashzone etc etc doesn't charge direct fees. But they give you a worse excange rate. Much worse sometimes.I guess it's a European thing. I don't think any US banks offers a no cash advance fee card.
Euronet may offer to convert the transaction to your home currency and if you accept, yes it's most likely a very bad conversion rate. However, the ATM has always provided me with the option of accepting Euronet's rate or VISA / Mastercard's rate. I always pick the later.
I know at least bank Santander has us branches. Not sure if bank norwegian has that yet. But they might.
Maybe you are right about euronet. I just allways avoid them. But you might want to check if it still is more expensive than using a local banks atm..
Trans Atlantic
03-01-17, 04:05
I know at least bank Santander has us branches. Not sure if bank norwegian has that yet. But they might.
Maybe you are right about euronet. I just allways avoid them. But you might want to check if it still is more expensive than using a local banks atm..Santander US credit cards have US industry standard fee for cash advances is $10 or 5%, whichever is greater. The moment you take $100 out, you already owe $110.
Not sure I follow. I don't think there is a credit card on the market with zero cash advance fees and / or interest not accruing the day the cash comes out of the machine..Chase Saphire. There is an annual fee of $99 for the Preferred version but I spend enough to get more than that back in points. No other fees. Also I pay back on the same day since I have a Chase bank account so no interest. My debit card daily limit is $500 vs my credit card have $3500 daily limit. There is no daily transfer limit between the bank to my credit card. Also I don't want to increase my debit card daily limit for security reasons.
HungryStud101
03-01-17, 06:19
Santander US credit cards have US industry standard fee for cash advances is $10 or 5%, whichever is greater. The moment you take $100 out, you already owe $110.I just checked my Visa and that was exactly correct. And the interests accrues the next day and it is 25.77%.
Trans Atlantic
03-01-17, 15:11
Chase Saphire. There is an annual fee of $99 for the Preferred version but I spend enough to get more than that back in points. No other fees. Also I pay back on the same day since I have a Chase bank account so no interest. My debit card daily limit is $500 vs my credit card have $3500 daily limit. There is no daily transfer limit between the bank to my credit card. Also I don't want to increase my debit card daily limit for security reasons.I looked at the offer page for the Sapphire Preferred. There is a cash advance fee of "$10 or 5% of the amount of each transaction, whichever is greater. " Are you saying you avoid that if you transfer from your Chase checking immediately? I understand you can avoid the interest by doing that but my understanding the cash advance fee is is charged regardless.
'US Standard'. Boy you americans are getting cornholed by your banks. No wonder TC wants to redeliver the favor somewhere else. Does every industry in usa have systemic mafia like cartel policies?
'US Standard'. Boy you americans are getting cornholed by your banks. No wonder TC wants to redeliver the favor somewhere else. Does every industry in usa have systemic mafia like cartel policies?Anybody want to know of the absolute best American company you can bank with that does not charge any ATM fees ever anywhere in the world? And that will refund any fees charged to you by an overseas bank's ATM system? Contact me by PM.
I looked at the offer page for the Sapphire Preferred. There is a cash advance fee of "$10 or 5% of the amount of each transaction, whichever is greater. " Are you saying you avoid that if you transfer from your Chase checking immediately? I understand you can avoid the interest by doing that but my understanding the cash advance fee is is charged regardless.Oh yea that's was my mistake. Yea there is a 5% fee for the advance but no fee for the conversion. I think that's still pretty good factoring in the points and stuff.
This might be an odd request but what the hell. Do any of the 4 major Frankfurt clubs have a room where one can accomplish this? A table or anything similar that's kinda a raised and you can fuck a girl standing up.
TIA.
Gentleman,
I am finalizing my early April trip now. Here is one question I have:
Can any of your NRW pros let me know which FKK club at which day give discount entrance? My time is limited so I am trying to hit maybe two clubs a day if they have combo deal.
I know that GT and LR are sister club that I can get a discount voucher from GT if I go to LR in same day. Are there early bird discount from other clubs? I am early person so if there are some clubs offer early bird discount, that will be good for me.
Dave.
This might be an odd request but what the hell. Do any of the 4 major Frankfurt clubs have a room where one can accomplish this? A table or anything similar that's kinda a raised and you can fuck a girl standing up.
The tabels in the rooms are usually to low for this. Best thing is to put your girl on a wide sofa-armrest, this has the perfect height for this. Mainhattan has one room with a sofa perfect for this position. That's my favorite room and I've fucked there many girls on the sofa-armrest in this position usually in her ass, that's best fun for me.
This might be an odd request but what the hell. Do any of the 4 major Frankfurt clubs have a room where one can accomplish this? A table or anything similar that's kinda a raised and you can fuck a girl standing up.
TIA.That kind of action I can only get when I bring them back to my hotel LOL. Let me know if you have any luck!
Jimmy Boy 99
03-04-17, 04:59
Gentleman,
I am finalizing my early April trip now. Here is one question I have:
Can any of your NRW pros let me know which FKK club at which day give discount entrance? My time is limited so I am trying to hit maybe two clubs a day if they have combo deal.
I know that GT and LR are sister club that I can get a discount voucher from GT if I go to LR in same day. Are there early bird discount from other clubs? I am early person so if there are some clubs offer early bird discount, that will be good for me.
Dave.Yin Yang, Sixsens, Heaven 7, Oceans, Acapulco, Acapulco Gold, Fredue 39 (AO club), maybe also Marisol, Villa Vertigo, and Dolce Vita. Do a search here or check their websites for days and amount of discount.
Banana Boi
03-04-17, 05:29
DaWong,
At 80 euro for Samya and Mondial, it makes a great combo for club hopping. However, if you want to spend a full day from noon then GT and LR 95 euro is a better choice. No club in NRW or Hessen can still touch the GT lineup in the day time. Neither Samya or Mondial are very busy before 5 pm.
I assume Magnum is still free if you pay 60 euro for Villa Vertigo. Both clubs are a bit slow but you will enjoy a lot of good food for the day.
Gentleman,
I am finalizing my early April trip now. Here is one question I have:
Can any of your NRW pros let me know which FKK club at which day give discount entrance? My time is limited so I am trying to hit maybe two clubs a day if they have combo deal.
I know that GT and LR are sister club that I can get a discount voucher from GT if I go to LR in same day. Are there early bird discount from other clubs? I am early person so if there are some clubs offer early bird discount, that will be good for me.
Dave.Oceans is written 25 with foods and drinks, before 3 pm. Have to manage with desk. Unfortunately no superb Emma. De on Thursday night, so many risks to push hard for nothing.
Aca is 30 before 1 pm every day or after 9 pm from Sunday to Thursday.
I think Aca Gold is 20 on early happy hour.
YY NL is 50 before 2 pm.
95 for GT and LR.
H7 is free on early happy hour.
Enjoy.
This might be an odd request but what the hell. Do any of the 4 major Frankfurt clubs have a room where one can accomplish this? A table or anything similar that's kinda a raised and you can fuck a girl standing up.
TIA.You and her standing up. From in front of her, usually very sensitive position for the girl.
DaWong,
At 80 euro for Samya and Mondial, it makes a great combo for club hopping. However, if you want to spend a full day from noon then GT and LR 95 euro is a better choice. No club in NRW or Hessen can still touch the GT lineup in the day time.I agree for taking breakfast at GT at 11 am, but I wouldn t say GT is the best casting in the afternoon, compare to Luana. Ro, Linda. Ro, Antonella. Ro, Amira. Ro, Lavinia. Ro, Roxy, and even much sexier for me. Less girls at LR, but some real woman type on early afternoon, with GFE quality.
Even not on top, for me Sharks can also compete with Mersi. Hu and some others to discover, like 2 Romanian sisters. Can have about 50 girls at Sharks at 3 pm. Just have to find the beauties, but same at GT, blond Isa. De face is not a beauty for me, same for Coco, not pretty enough for me. Jane was nothing exceptional for me with too big face, compare to splendid blond Emma. De seen at Oceans, but not there on this Thursday night, when I was prepared in my mind to play my best game with a not kissing girl.
That kind of action I can only get when I bring them back to my hotel LOL. Let me know if you have any luck!LOL. There are many things regular GF and regular environment can provide that these girls can't. Unless maybe you are a regular and build a solid rapport with them.
ExpatLover
03-04-17, 21:16
LOL. There are many things regular GF and regular environment can provide that these girls can't. Unless maybe you are a regular and build a solid rapport with them.Except the girl knows you very much and appreciate you or she is desperate she will not go with you to the hotel.
LOL. There are many things regular GF and regular environment can provide that these girls can't. Unless maybe you are a regular and build a solid rapport with them.Money helps to save time to bring a club girl even on a higher level than your regular GF and there is nothing they can't provide.
Tommyseville
03-05-17, 01:31
H7 is free on early happy hour.
Looks like H7 is charging 15€ now for the morning entry per their website. No more free scrambled eggs!
10-12 Uhr. Täglich 15€.
Ab 12 Uhr Eintritt 30 €.
Still a bargain though, when you consider most hotels charge 10-15€ for continental breakfast.
Looks like H7 is charging 15 now for the morning entry per their website. No more free scrambled eggs!
10-12 Uhr. Tglich 15.
Ab 12 Uhr Eintritt 30 .
Still a bargain though, when you consider most hotels charge 10-15 for continental breakfast.How about casting level? How many girls?
What time of the year do outdoor spaces of the Frankfurt clubs open? In other words, would weather be still too cold in early May?
TIA.
ExpatLover
03-06-17, 05:12
What time of the year do outdoor spaces of the Frankfurt clubs open? In other words, would weather be still too cold in early May?
TIA.The outside spaces are always accessible, for example I was seating outside Saturday afternoon at Oase, but obviously there are no girls walking around. Beginning of may will be fine to seat outside and to enjoy the girls walking nude around and trying to convince you to go with them.
What time of the year do outdoor spaces of the Frankfurt clubs open? In other words, would weather be still too cold in early May?
Usually the outdoor areas of the Frankfurt clubs open all year around. It's up to you to use them in winter. And long term weather forecast impossible. Early May could be sunny and warm or rainy and cold.
Which Frankfurt clubs have an area where one can run away from girls and get some peace? TIA.
Which Frankfurt clubs have an area where one can run away from girls and get some peace? TIA.Oase has a relax room where girls don't (are not allowed to?) bother you.
What time of the year do outdoor spaces of the Frankfurt clubs open? In other words, would weather be still too cold in early May?Most clubs, like World and Oase, keep their outdoor area accessible regardless of the weather so that you can chill out after a spell in the sauna. The may Sun is most of the time not strong enough to generate many warm days in that month but there are surprises. German weather is unpredictable. I once shut myself out during winter at Paradise Saarbruecken iinto the outdoor area and had to climb over the fence into the parking lot to reappear with a towel around my waist at reception. Scary experience as the temperature was near freezing point and the fence was high.
PussyLiccker
03-12-17, 21:23
Mainhattan has a rest area as well(the sauna area), pass the auto sliding door.
World has the downstairs area, I guess depending on the times, you are fairly left alone.
Palace, the outside bar, and there is a spot when you go toward to rooms at the end, a quiet area.
Sharks, is open ended, just people sit all over the place. Some areas more secluded than others, especially the top floor where the jacuzzi are or the back corners. Also, you can go to the area past the dining area.
Mainhattan has a rest area as well(the sauna area), pass the auto sliding door.
World has the downstairs area, I guess depending on the times, you are fairly left alone.
Palace, the outside bar, and there is a spot when you go toward to rooms at the end, a quiet area.
Sharks, is open ended, just people sit all over the place. Some areas more secluded than others, especially the top floor where the jacuzzi are or the back corners.Thank you. That was a great summary. Can I take my phone to any of these areas?
Palace have rest place with good couches, close to massage room. Girls don t come, had good sleep there, before repeating with Lucy. De at the end of the night, I was her last, before dreams.
Good article in the Guardian, "Raped, beaten, exploited: the 21st-century slavery propping up Sicilian farming.
Thousands of female Romanian farm workers are suffering horrendous abuse."
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/mar/12/slavery-sicily-farming-raped-beaten-exploited-romanian-women
After reading this, you can understand why being a prostitute in Germany is one of the better options.
Thank you. That was a great summary. Can I take my phone to any of these areas?At Oase, yes.
More complicated at Sharks, or Palace, or World, or Mainhattan.
No problem at Aca, GT, LR, Samya.
Good article in the Guardian, "Raped, beaten, exploited: the 21st-century slavery propping up Sicilian farming.
Thousands of female Romanian farm workers are suffering horrendous abuse."
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/mar/12/slavery-sicily-farming-raped-beaten-exploited-romanian-women
After reading this, you can understand why being a prostitute in Germany is one of the better options.What is the most shameful for me is the husband saying to his wife she has to be fucked by the boss to be paid. Just the perfect example of Romanian or Bulgarian modern culture: women are just shit there, just a way to make money for lazy guys, just able to drink. I prefer Russian women condition who leave their guy if he is not able to take care of them and he stays with vodka.
With some Romanian girls I met: Madi, Katalina or my sexy lady at the moment, who all failed in their private life, even they are prostitutes, when I experience what they are able to give to a man, I sometimes think: how a normal guy is not able and doesn't have the will to take care of such woman? Of course, before they fell into prostitution and taste blood money.
Not sure money made in FKK land is for WGs, unfortunately for them. Who pay the Mercedes? Lazy guys who don't work.
JohnnyWorries
03-14-17, 01:36
Hello,
Long time lurker and hope that I can contribute more in the future.
I will be in Amsterdam for a week starting 03/15 for a bachelor party. 10 guys from America.
A small group of us want to take a day trip to Germany to visit an FKK and we are having a tough decision on where to go.
Previously we were set on going to Frankfurt for Sharks, but the train is 4.5 hours and we are trying to decide if we need to go all the way to Frankfurt.
Can anyone give a recommendation of some places that would be easy to get to and worth the trip from Amsterdam. Keep in mind the train, and accessibility from the train station we get off at. We want beautiful girls, and the FKK Spa setting. We would like there to be a bar, but don't want to get raped on drink prices. All the information is great, but I can't narrow down a place to visit. Please give a first time FKK visitor some recommendations.
Thanks in advance!
Solo Traveler
03-14-17, 02:35
Just the perfect example of Romanian or Bulgarian modern culture: women are just shit there, just a way to make money.
Not sure money made in FKK land is for WGs, unfortunately for them. Who pay the Mercedes? Lazy guys who don't work.Too bad we are not Romanian or Bulgarian men.
In my country, feminism prevails, so men are like humble slaves who have to deal with many obnoxious princesses and queens in real life, if you refuse to get taken advantages of, you will be accused of Male Chauvinist or sexism.
But still lots of losers men trying to take part in the extremely unfair game and trade.
I stopped approaching women in real life, realizing they're just a waste of time about 2 years ago.
Banana Boi
03-14-17, 06:05
Can anyone give a recommendation of some places that would be easy to get to and worth the trip from Amsterdam. Most guys from Amsterdam would likely go to Goldentime aka GT in Bruggen. Pretty sure some of the guys in your group aren't going to hop back on that train to Amsterdam the next day! Another alternative is Yin Yang in Roermond which has a better spa. Beer is included in almost every FKK / saunaclub. GT is not a FKK with full nudity. If you want full nudity for all girls you'll have to go to a FKK like Sharks or Oase. If you have 10 guys rent a van if you're only going to NRW. It's not far.
Too bad we are not Romanian or Bulgarian men.
In my country, feminism prevails, so men are like humble slaves who have to deal with many obnoxious princesses and queens in real life, if you refuse to get taken advantages of, you will be accused of Male Chauvinist or sexism.
But still lots of losers men trying to take part in the extremely unfair game and trade.
I stopped approaching women in real life, realizing they're just a waste of time about 2 years ago.I don't know where You come from, but I m proud to be what I am, I never forget I come from an exceptional woman belly and she was so generous and loved me so much. Without her, I would be nothing, she gave me all my confidence and strength. I had so many women around me who loved me, we sometimes have sisters, so, women just mean for me: love, tenderness, sweetness and kindness. No war, no frustration, for me about women. When I speak with a prostitute in brothels, she understand in few words, manners and time, my behavior with women, I never touch ass or tits out of room but I may be one of the very few who touch face without being said about make up, that's why I can have girls I want in any club, and when she experienced my behavior, I can even say to her I don't expect to be treated like her many other clients, and it also works most of the time, because they appreciate my different behavior. On this Sunday, my very regular at the moment was very surprised to see me back and told me again: Why didn't you send me you come? There were at least 3 of her regulars waiting for her, but who do you think she chose? A client or her French man as she says? And her other regulars didn't wait for 2 h30 , only for 150 and great time for me, with a see You on next week end. Manners make the job with women, even in brothels, even stronger than money, at Globe, I m not a big money client and not so regular, but busy superstar Kate comes to me, since first room I never ran after her, because I remember how You treat me, as she says. How? You treat me like a woman in this place.
Even life is sometimes so cruel, I have always been happy with women, I love them and they feel it.
JohnnyWorries
03-14-17, 16:38
Most guys from Amsterdam would likely go to Goldentime aka GT in Bruggen. Pretty sure some of the guys in your group aren't going to hop back on that train to Amsterdam the next day! Another alternative is Yin Yang in Roermond which has a better spa. Beer is included in almost every FKK / saunaclub. GT is not a FKK with full nudity. If you want full nudity for all girls you'll have to go to a FKK like Sharks or Oase. If you have 10 guys rent a van if you're only going to NRW. It's not far.So there are no true FKK (nudity) in the NRW area that is worth visiting? And if we go to NRW like GT or Yin Yang. Will it be a huge difference in the ladies if we go on a Monday? Thanks for the all the help, I will be making this trek by myself if nobody from the group wants to leave the Dam.
If we don't rent a vehicle is GT or Yin Yang convenient to travel to by train / taxi?
Thanks again, and Ill be sure to leave some reports on the Amsterdam and Germany sides of the trip. I know Germany will be worth the visit, so like I said. I'll be going by myself worst case scenario.
A small group of us want to take a day trip to Germany to visit an FKK and we are having a tough decision on where to go.If you can then better to rent a car / minivan and drive to Goldentime. It's proximity means a two hour drive, if you were to take a train it could take hours more each way and that would be to someplace like Living Room which is near to a station. A car will be faster and cheaper and you can choose from any FKK you like. If you stick to trains and public transport it will cost you a lot more money and take hours more each way. You may have to switch from bus, train, tram or taxi at any leg of the trip. As it's a bachelor party then maybe a van and driver hire? It may still be cheaper.
ExpatLover
03-15-17, 18:53
Too bad we are not Romanian or Bulgarian men.
In my country, feminism prevails, so men are like humble slaves who have to deal with many obnoxious princesses and queens in real life, if you refuse to get taken advantages of, you will be accused of Male Chauvinist or sexism.
But still lots of losers men trying to take part in the extremely unfair game and trade.
I stopped approaching women in real life, realizing they're just a waste of time about 2 years ago.Thank to all of the forum members not to forget that the FKK life is not the real life for the mongers and the girls. May be it is a mistake to try to put our logical answer to that. Women and men in a FKK are playing a rule.
Too bad we are not Romanian or Bulgarian men.
In my country, feminism prevails, so men are like humble slaves who have to deal with many obnoxious princesses and queens in real life, if you refuse to get taken advantages of, you will be accused of Male Chauvinist or sexism.
But still lots of losers men trying to take part in the extremely unfair game and trade.
I stopped approaching women in real life, realizing they're just a waste of time about 2 years ago.
I don't know where You come from, but I m proud to be what I am, I never forget I come from an exceptional woman belly and she was so generous and loved me so much. Without her, I would be nothing, she gave me all my confidence and strength. I had so many women around me who loved me, we sometimes have sisters, so, women just mean for me: love, tenderness, sweetness and kindness. No war, no frustration, for me about women. When I speak with a prostitute in brothels, she understand in few words, manners and time, my behavior with women, I never touch ass or tits out of room but I may be one of the very few who touch face without being said about make up, that's why I can have girls I want in any club, and when she experienced my behavior, I can even say to her I don't expect to be treated like her many other clients, and it also works most of the time, because they appreciate my different behavior. On this Sunday, my very regular at the moment was very surprised to see me back and told me again: Why didn't you send me you come? There were at least 3 of her regulars waiting for her, but who do you think she chose? A client or her French man as she says? And her other regulars didn't wait for 2 h30 , only for 150 and great time for me, with a see You on next week end. Manners make the job with women, even in brothels, even stronger than money, at Globe, I m not a big money client and not so regular, but busy superstar Kate comes to me, since first room I never ran after her, because I remember how You treat me, as she says. How? You treat me like a woman in this place.
Even life is sometimes so cruel, I have always been happy with women, I love them and they feel it.I also feel the same way that Solo Traveler do and after disappointment in relationships many men feel the same. If you are a women and saying bad words after men just after some divorcement society says oh honey you are right but if you are a man they think you are incompetent. People think even a man not attractive he must be able to get woman for himself by being smart, rich or kind etc etc. But if you are a woman they will think it is men's fault because they don't see how nice she is. In my own experience that Feminism and Playgirl trends moved man-woman relationship to a new level. Now men are suffering but yet they are not allowed to cry because they are men and they have to be strong and skilled. I also stopped approaching women in real life a few weeks ago. Better to save money and time for FKK travels. I don't believe that women just appreciate good behaviours. I believe they appreciate especially countries like Romania and Turkey (I am turkish) the bad behaviours. They think narcisstic men are strong and they go after them. They tolerate them and in the end they are raped, beaten or left. That is mostly what they choose and go after. Women like bad men.
I also feel the same way that Solo Traveler do and after disappointment in relationships many men feel the same. If you are a women and saying bad words after men just after some divorcement society says oh honey you are right but if you are a man they think you are incompetent. People think even a man not attractive he must be able to get woman for himself by being smart, rich or kind etc etc. But if you are a woman they will think it is men's fault because they don't see how nice she is. In my own experience that Feminism and Playgirl trends moved man-woman relationship to a new level. Now men are suffering but yet they are not allowed to cry because they are men and they have to be strong and skilled. I also stopped approaching women in real life a few weeks ago. Better to save money and time for FKK travels. I don't believe that women just appreciate good behaviours. I believe they appreciate especially countries like Romania and Turkey (I am turkish) the bad behaviours. They think narcisstic men are strong and they go after them. They tolerate them and in the end they are raped, beaten or left. That is mostly what they choose and go after. Women like bad men.I remember pretty Jaylon. Tu at Aca, talking to Turkish, just like shit, when she was so lovely with me. I know them only in brothels, but Romanian or Bulgarian or Turkish girls seem to appreciate manners, at least girls who attract me.
I understand very well women can think a guy who is not able to take care of them, not only about money, is useless. For me, WGs driven by taxi driver to be fucked, are not free in mind. They are stolen by loverboy / pimp.
I am in Toronto Canada and looking for a nude adult resort, the kind where sex is encouraged. So I am looking for a lifestyle naturist adult resort, where nudity is not just optional but basically the point, and sex is not frowned upon. I am single. My goal is not to get laid but of course I do want that, but really I want to spend a few days in an all nude environment, preferably some place warm. I don't know where to ask this question because the nude forums are all over the place. And this will be my first time at a nudist resort.
Wry Cooter
03-16-17, 06:17
I've read that Cap the'Agde in France has a large nudist / naturist where you can do everything naked. See also the Caliente Resort in Dominican Republic or the Temptation Resort in Cancun, Mexico.
I am in Toronto Canada and looking for a nude adult resort, the kind where sex is encouraged. So I am looking for a lifestyle naturist adult resort, where nudity is not just optional but basically the point, and sex is not frowned upon. I am single. My goal is not to get laid but of course I do want that, but really I want to spend a few days in an all nude environment, preferably some place warm. I don't know where to ask this question because the nude forums are all over the place. And this will be my first time at a nudist resort.
Thank to all of the forum members not to forget that the FKK life is not the real life for the mongers and the girls. May be it is a mistake to try to put our logical answer to that. Women and men in a FKK are playing a rule.I don't need to lie to FKK land WGs, but land of lies, bullshit, jealousy, but also sometimes pleasure.
I've read that Cap the'Agde in France has a large nudist / naturist where you can do everything naked. See also the Caliente Resort in Dominican Republic or the Temptation Resort in Cancun, Mexico.Yes, in Cap the Agde, South of France, on Mediterranean sea, can live full naked in the village and also quite free and easy to have sex there. Never been there.
I have noticed that some of small hotel I stayed in Germany do not have air condition. Will that be a problem if I come around early September?
I have noticed that some of small hotel I stayed in Germany do not have air condition. Will that be a problem if I come around early September?Nights are usually not so warm in Germany in September. Can be in end of June / July / August. If too warm, use a wet towel.
Horny Harry
03-17-17, 10:26
I have noticed that some of small hotel I stayed in Germany do not have air condition. Will that be a problem if I come around early September?No, just open a window.
So there are no true FKK (nudity) in the NRW area that is worth visiting? And if we go to NRW like GT or Yin Yang. Will it be a huge difference in the ladies if we go on a Monday? Thanks for the all the help, I will be making this trek by myself if nobody from the group wants to leave the Dam.
If we don't rent a vehicle is GT or Yin Yang convenient to travel to by train / taxi?
Thanks again, and Ill be sure to leave some reports on the Amsterdam and Germany sides of the trip. I know Germany will be worth the visit, so like I said. I'll be going by myself worst case scenario.If the most of you stay in Amsterdam, they don't know what they miss. RLD in Amsterdam is really a tourist ripp off, but most first timers (and people from countries where this is illegal) love it, because they see tits and pussy for free and can even have (lousy) sex for 50 Euro.
Since you are first timers, you probably don't need to go to a club with real good performers (like Babylon, Luder Lounge, etc) but prefer the more glamorous clubs with nice looking girls and great facilities. As mentioned before Golden Time is good for this purpose, and much better than the tourist traps in Amsterdam, but please consider that this is only the entry level on the service department. Same accounts for FKK Oceans in Dusseldorf, but this club is much better accessible with public transport.
Sixsens (near Vaals, the southern most part of Holland) is also a good option as a good club with very good wellness, and nice girls, but probably a disaster when travelling with public transport.
As suggested already: rent a car and drive to it from Amsterdam (all around 2-2,5 hours driving).
Another option is to go to Hessen, then FKK Sharks and Oase are good options (many many naked girls, but many sharks for first timers.), also these clubs outside the main public transport areas.
If you can spend more time, Sakura (near Stuttgart) might be a good option: very good facilities AND good lineup with good performance.
Back to your goal: rent a car and drive to Babylon in Elsdorf (approx 2,5 hours from Amsterdam),. Ring the door bell and see 20-30 maked girls welcome you at the door and realize you are almost in heaven. Drink free beer, eat free a la carte diner, get yourself sucked in the bar and forget about the lack of facilities in this small club! .
rent a car and drive to Babylon in Elsdorf (approx 2,5 hours from Amsterdam). Ring the door bell and see 20-30 maked girls welcome you at the door and realize you are almost in heaven. Drink free beer, eat free a la carte diner, get yourself sucked in the bar and forget about the lack of facilities in this small club! .Good advice! Service club with nude girls.
T.
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