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Hi all,
I'll be visiting Frankfurt for the first time and having my first FKK.
Experience. Quick question as a visitor from outside Germany and Europe, it seems like BBBJ is quite pervasive and is offered commonly. How safe is this in terms of STD? Where I come from, prostitution is legal but BBBJ is illegal. It's deemed to be risky and as such not something we find here at all.
Are the girls pretty regularly tested but it's a case of at your own risk or is it not as common as I've been led to think from reading the review on this board?
Thanks!
Steve 9696
10-01-19, 17:50
I make a point of sampling different mongering destinations to broaden my horizons and see if I like any new places as much as or more than ones that I already know. My overseas mongering up to this point had been mostly in Latin America, with a bit in Southeast Asia and one trip to Amsterdam. German FKKs remained a major gap in my experience that I decided to fill. I am glad that I did so, as this Frankfurt-based FKK tour was one of my best overseas mongering experiences thus far, despite significant downsides. I will be adding FKKs to my regular rotation for future trips. This post is an overview of my FKK tour; I will also be posting reviews of the FKKs that I visited.
Why I went there.
I had read mixed reviews about German FKKs and identified strong pros and cons. Selling points included: the Eastern European talent pool, for which Eastern Europeans in my native New York had whetted my appetite; the visual quality of the lineups; the female nudity; reports of strong oral skills; and the chance to monger in the safety and comfort of a highly developed country with more culture and sightseeing. The last point was key for me, as I prefer multifaceted travel experiences and need downtime to rest my dick and recharge my libido. I had visited Berlin and Munich before I discovered overseas mongering. I took more of a liking to Germany than other European countries, and I hoped to return someday to explore western parts of Germany, which fit very well with my <snip>?So first of all kudos. This is the single best piece of reporting I've seen on ISG and I am a prolific detailed reporter myself. A few thoughts.
1. The CIM being 50 is not new. This has been true for ten years or more. What is new is the upsell 50 for BBBJ and kissing. But as you say avoidable.
2. It sounds like you are an experienced guy but have been to Rio not SP. Strongly recommend an SP visit. Wide consensus that it's way better than Rio. Scandallo remains my choice for a buffet unmatched worldwide. Easily 150 hot girls AVAILABLE on a Thursday night. As a connaiseur you should go!
3. I do think FKK girls are less likely to get wet downstairs than Brazilian girls (Claudia was a notable exception a sloppy mess) but this isn't so much an indictment of Romanians so much as a plus of the Brasileira. Brasileiras are unique worldwide in my opinion for being able to be totally present. Completely into being your girlfriend for a couple hours. I have not experienced that so strongly and consistently from any other nationality.
Hi all,
I'll be visiting Frankfurt for the first time and having my first FKK.
Experience. Quick question as a visitor from outside Germany and Europe, it seems like BBBJ is quite pervasive and is offered commonly. How safe is this in terms of STD? Where I come from, prostitution is legal but BBBJ is illegal. It's deemed to be risky and as such not something we find here at all.
Are the girls pretty regularly tested but it's a case of at your own risk or is it not as common as I've been led to think from reading the review on this board?
Thanks!You can ask for CBJ if you feel more safe. Maybe you can have cum in condom in mouth for free, if you are not Asian.
1. The CIM being 50 is not new. This has been true for ten years or more. What is new is the upsell 50 for BBBJ and kissing. But as you say avoidable.So, would a half hour with BBBJ CIM be 100, or 150? Are they asking for 50 for BBBJ plus 50 for CIM, or is that negotiated together?
Also, are two shots typical in an hour session, or is that an extra upsell also?
.... half hour with BBBJ CIM be 100, or 150? Are they asking for 50 for BBBJ plus 50 for CIM, or is that negotiated together? .... two shots typical in an hour session, or is that an extra upsell also?Two shots in one hour is possible, but I suppose that most of the girls don't expect that kind of stamina. Upsell for That? Ask your lady in advance. In case she resigns you still can avoid to go with her on the room. Half an hour with CIM is usually 100 Euro (50+50) in Sharks. You know that since July 2017 BBBJ isn't anymore allowed by law. On German and French boards therefore the keyword won't be used anymore. As far as I know girls in several clubs (e. G. Samya) ask for certain upgrades in case of certain features being asked by the customer.
Two shots in one hour is possible, but I suppose that most of the girls don't expect that kind of stamina. Upsell for That? Ask your lady in advance. In case she resigns you still can avoid to go with her on the room. Half an hour with CIM is usually 100 Euro (50+50) in Sharks. You know that since July 2017 BBBJ isn't anymore allowed by law. On German and French boards therefore the keyword won't be used anymore. As far as I know girls in several clubs (e. G. Samya) ask for certain upgrades in case of certain features being asked by the customer.At Samya, at World, when you are able to take care of your girl, then she says: now your turn to have pleasure and BBBJ is standard. Despite new law with BBBJ and AO forbidden, what is reality?
At Samya, at World, when you are able to take care of your girl, then she says: now your turn to have pleasure and BBBJ is standard. Despite new law with BBBJ and AO forbidden, what is reality?Like in any clubs I visit.
Been to plenty of FKKs, but only now getting more adventurous with things I'm looking for.
Is DATY usually extra, or standard? I prefer having a condom on my tongue when going down on a girl. Will she mind me asking her for an extra condom so I can use it while going down on her?
Are two shots standard in a 100 Euro hour session, or is that an extra 50?
Are rim jobs available? I'm sure it depends on the girl, but don't want to disgust any of them by asking if that's not a popular activity here.
Thank you.
Been to plenty of FKKs, but only now getting more adventurous with things I'm looking for.
Is DATY usually extra, or standard? I prefer having a condom on my tongue when going down on a girl. Will she mind me asking her for an extra condom so I can use it while going down on her?
Are two shots standard in a 100 Euro hour session, or is that an extra 50?
Are rim jobs available? I'm sure it depends on the girl, but don't want to disgust any of them by asking if that's not a popular activity here.
Thank you.No problem if you want BJ with condom, but I think the girl will be surprised if you put condom on your tongue, to DATY or kiss her. Maybe better not to DATY her. Some girls are tasty for liquid, and energetic like sperm.
Hi everyone! Posting after a really long time. I found this informative bit of writing in a March, 2019 article and thought to share the link so that other members can benefit from it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/prostitution-is-legal-in-countries-across-europe-photos-2019-3
Since, this thread gets quite a bit of footfall, I thought it appropriate to leave the link here. Also, in case somebody has already posted it, I apologize in advance for the repetition. Thanks.
P.S. - Started a new thread for this post by mistake. That was never the intention. A bit rusty I think! Also, any pointers on how to delete a thread that has been started by mistake? I can not find the option to delete the thread anywhere. Thanks once again.
Been to plenty of FKKs, but only now getting more adventurous with things I'm looking for.
Is DATY usually extra, or standard? I prefer having a condom on my tongue when going down on a girl. Will she mind me asking her for an extra condom so I can use it while going down on her?
Are two shots standard in a 100 Euro hour session, or is that an extra 50?
Are rim jobs available? I'm sure it depends on the girl, but don't want to disgust any of them by asking if that's not a popular activity here.
Thank you.Nothing is standard anymore it seems other than some covered oral and sex in different positions. It also depends on whether you book an hour or 30 min. Assuming you want an hour, you can often get more than the "basics", but negotiate before you go up. In almost every escort post on the advertising boards, kissing is YMMV, as to DATY, and DATO, it's really hit or miss who asks for extra money but I think you will often have to pay. If you want them to rim you, it's just a question of asking, they won't think you any worse than the guy who asks if he can CIM, or do anal. It's just a business. You are NOT even close to disgusting "yet". And how they respond can also tell you something. If they say NO and turn away, then you probably don't want them anyway, if they say 'Sorry, but I can make you happy anyway' , then you have a winner.
If it's a must have, just ask and move on if the answer is no. I had to ask 7 or 8 girls the last time I was in a FKK to find one who offered anal, but none of them seemed bothered that I asked. And later I went back for my second try with a girl who offered COB included if I went for an hour, not 30.
P.S. - Started a new thread for this post by mistake. That was never the intention. A bit rusty I think! Also, any pointers on how to delete a thread that has been started by mistake? I can not find the option to delete the thread anywhere. Thanks once again.There's an option Report a post, if you are the original author you can request that it be deleted.
Hi everyone! Posting after a really long time. I found this informative bit of writing in a March, 2019 article and thought to share the link so that other members can benefit from it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/prostitution-is-legal-in-countries-across-europe-photos-2019-3
Since, this thread gets quite a bit of footfall, I thought it appropriate to leave the link here. Also, in case somebody has already posted it, I apologize in advance for the repetition. Thanks.
P.S. - Started a new thread for this post by mistake. That was never the intention. A bit rusty I think! Also, any pointers on how to delete a thread that has been started by mistake? I can not find the option to delete the thread anywhere. Thanks once again.Didn't read all of this, but parts of it gives me a sour taste:
- Entry fees for the girls at Pasha in Cologne. 195 usd. Sick!
- Price for sex in Greece fell from 41 to 20 usd between 2012 and 2017.
- Price elasticity is very high in this business it seems, as prostitutes are probably seen as one of the first things people cut out when their own income falls. Such as right after the last financial crisis.
Some clubs should definitely lower the entry rates for the girls. Otherwise this coming new financial crisis we are about to enter nowadays will hit this industry very heavily.
Triplestudrazz
10-12-19, 08:18
Making my second annual world series of poker Europe (my cover) and FKK rounds. Last year had a great time. Hit Sharks, Oase, paradise and a nostalgic trip to Colosseum. Colosseum was my first visit to an FKK, about 8 years ago. For an american it was surreal and mind blowing. As my cab arrived to depart I saw a blonde goddess at the ladies lockers and although she was turned to where I could only see her posterior. And what a sight it was. Gave the cabbie a 20 euro note and send him on his way. Spent a fantastic last hour there with the one and only Marie. What a German doll. I digress.
Going to start and finish at Club Globe with sandwiched visits to most of the clubs I went to last year. Any recommendations on ladies with Elsa Jean sized pussy lips or at least nice and big? I promise to be gentle. PM is ok as well. We all have our quirks, don't we?
Member #4632
10-15-19, 23:46
I have 3 days in Germany, and I was at Sharks last time I visited.
This time around. I plan to go back to Sharks because of the good quality. But do you guys it's worth spending time traveling to other FKKs too? Or is it better to just stay at Sharks for all 3 days? Do the line-ups usually change from day-to-day? I don't really care about the club, I just want top girls and I hear Sharks has the best Lineup.
Making my second annual world series of poker Europe (my cover) and FKK rounds. Last year had a great time. Hit Sharks, Oase, paradise and a nostalgic trip to Colosseum. Colosseum was my first visit to an FKK, about 8 years ago. For an american it was surreal and mind blowing. As my cab arrived to depart I saw a blonde goddess at the ladies lockers and although she was turned to where I could only see her posterior. And what a sight it was. Gave the cabbie a 20 euro note and send him on his way. Spent a fantastic last hour there with the one and only Marie. What a German doll. I digress.
Going to start and finish at Club Globe with sandwiched visits to most of the clubs I went to last year. Any recommendations on ladies with Elsa Jean sized pussy lips or at least nice and big? I promise to be gentle. PM is ok as well. We all have our quirks, don't we?Ever get any response on this? Into the same thing.
Going to start and finish at Club Globe with sandwiched visits to most of the clubs I went to last year. Any recommendations on ladies with Elsa Jean sized pussy lips or at least nice and big? I promise to be gentle. PM is ok as well. We all have our quirks, don't we?Can't recall the pussy lips (as I only play chess in the rooms), but Wellcum in Austria (border to Italy) has a girl named Barbie. Very reminiscent of the infamous Elsa Jean. Seemingly on vacation for the next week at least, but Veniamo dot it has updates on schedules.
Can't recall the pussy lips (as I only play chess in the rooms), but Wellcum in Austria (border to Italy) has a girl named Barbie. Very reminiscent of the infamous Elsa Jean. Seemingly on vacation for the next week at least, but Veniamo dot it has updates on schedules.And before silicon, she was fire in bed.
And before silicon, she was fire in bed.Don't think the sillies changed that. She was pretty crazy. More so than ever with me last time. After silly inject.
Don't think the sillies changed that. She was pretty crazy. More so than ever with me last time. After silly inject.She smiled to me on August, but I think she understood from what she saw in my eyes, not anymore a woman, but plastic doll. I m sad for her, what this business can make to some girls. I also remember Sofia at Globe, who put silicon after reading about her when she was escorting in Paris. Just sad. On this night, at Bosphore, I repeated with a supermodel, 1,80 , impressive look, but full sweetness when You take care of her. She has problem and pain from her silicon and has to change silicon.
The flavor is like the ass, divided. And also, not every doctor is equally good. Everyone knows it can hurt. But I see she is gone from the list of girls now alongside a big clear of girls today. I think hey removed maybe 30 names. Not sure what that means, but Natali also left shortly after she had her boobs done. Hope its not a trend:
For me, I don't think it matters too much. Silly or not silly.
Polyamorist
10-19-19, 16:46
Can't recall the pussy lips (as I only play chess in the rooms), You too? Typical FKK experience for me:
The flavor is like the ass, divided. And also, not every doctor is equally good. Everyone knows it can hurt. But I see she is gone from the list of girls now alongside a big clear of girls today. I think hey removed maybe 30 names. Not sure what that means, but Natali also left shortly after she had her boobs done. Hope its not a trend:
For me, I don't think it matters too much. Silly or not silly.Roxana Sharks lost business after silicon when she was a superstar on 2014 . She was at Wellcum for Ferragosto 2017, silicon but not busy. Flesh taste better than plastic.
So first of all kudos. This is the single best piece of reporting I've seen on ISG and I am a prolific detailed reporter myself. A few thoughts.
2. It sounds like you are an experienced guy but have been to Rio not SP. Strongly recommend an SP visit. Wide consensus that it's way better than Rio. Scandallo remains my choice for a buffet unmatched worldwide. Easily 150 hot girls AVAILABLE on a Thursday night. As a connaiseur you should go!
3. I do think FKK girls are less likely to get wet downstairs than Brazilian girls (Claudia was a notable exception a sloppy mess) but this isn't so much an indictment of Romanians so much as a plus of the Brasileira. Brasileiras are unique worldwide in my opinion for being able to be totally present. Completely into being your girlfriend for a couple hours. I have not experienced that so strongly and consistently from any other nationality.Are any FKKs that compare to Scandallo in terms of girl quality (8+)? I know everyone has different tastes but in general most of us agree on a very aesthetically pleasing girl. I've tried to do some research on the forums on FKKs but I get a bit lost as I don't know the clubs. From what I've read, seems Sharks would be on par, though I have not really been able to get a good sense on quality of the girls there. For context, I tend to like girls with a fit body type, preferably with natural breasts (most have fake hard breasts which are not as enjoyable).
Roxana Sharks lost business after silicon when she was a superstar on 2014 . She was at Wellcum for Ferragosto 2017, silicon but not busy. Flesh taste better than plastic.Roxana was at Wellcum probably for about a year.
Poly: oh the memories! That is exactly how I do it too!
For her fans, German Mio ex GT is at History Basel Liestal on border, for about 80 € /30 mn. Maybe she will be at Globe for party on Friday. My party will be Mont Ventoux, wish for 2 sides with no wind on south side, not to fall again and no black ass.
Roxana was at Wellcum probably for about a year.
Poly: oh the memories! That is exactly how I do it too!I meant Roxana ex Sharks, she arrived on Friday just before Ferragosto party 2017. Didn't see her on 2018.
For her fans, German Mio ex GT is at History Basel Liestal on border, for about 80 /30 mn. Maybe she will be at Globe for party on Friday. My party will be Mont Ventoux, wish for 2 sides with no wind on south side, not to fall again and no black ass.90 € / 30 mn.
MaxSquatter
10-23-19, 19:10
Which club (s) have the biggest percentages of German girls because they're getting harder to find it seems.
Which club (s) have the biggest percentages of German girls because they're getting harder to find it seems.Some at GT, but not the most chic, no more Sam level. Some at Globe.
Some short observations from my recent trip to Sharks and Palace.
As a 7 year visitor on both clubs, I can see the changes that they're going through in those years, Sharks has some new faces but I still cannot get used to the rude service of the staff, not the WG's, and the club is sooo dirty in the busy days, like there's no cleaning at all, I mean the toilets and the showers are really dirty.
And Palace you feel that the management cares more about the place and cleanliness, although the girls are more and more cash junkies, unbelievable how creative they become in taking out my cash. Had a nice 2 sessions with a Rom and a greedy Venezuelan girl.
From 2014/2015, now not same clients and business at Sharks at night. World changed on spring 2015 for night clients. Oase also changed lately. Problem is high level girls don t stay for such business, they are not interested to be fucked hard, or everything for only 50 €. Only GND have no choice, but I m not interested by GND even they can be top performer, and my 2 really wow Oase girls seemed to have left, unfortunately. Only Palace can attract high level beauties.
ExpatLover
10-25-19, 16:45
From 2014/2015, now not same clients and business at Sharks at night. World changed on spring 2015 for night clients. Oase also changed lately. Problem is high level girls don t stay for such business, they are not interested to be fucked hard, or everything for only 50 . Only GND have no choice, but I m not interested by GND even they can be top performer, and my 2 really wow Oase girls seemed to have left, unfortunately. Only Palace can attract high level beauties.I think you need to be more precise, what are the new customers, where are they coming from. I know it is difficult to name clearly the thing. All this is the past for me, so happy with my life out of the P6 scene.
GringoItaliano
11-06-19, 00:25
I did my first Frankfurt-based FKK tour earlier this year (see my previous reporting), and I am eager to return. I have a window of opportunity starting that weekend after Western Christmas and into that following week of New Year's.
FKK regulars. How slow or busy are the Frankfurt-area FKKs at that time of year, in your experience? Are they more or less active than usual, or at about the same levels of activity?
The conventional wisdom in my usual Latin American stomping grounds is that it is very slow because the girls are spending time with their families. I was wondering if it is any different for the FKKs, since so many of the girls are Orthodox, and Orthodox Christmas is later in January. I remember reading that Orthodox Easter is slow because so many of the girls are gone for that Orthodox holiday.
Recently visited Palace after a long absence. Was a regular at Palace and what was the FKK Haus in Fellbach from 2003-2006, but stopped traveling regularly to Germany for business. A buddy and I decided we needed a trip, so we made the pilgrimage. A Greek gal declared we were on a "fucking holiday," and she was absolutely correct. Stayed at Fleming's next door, and had a decent time.
However, Palace has changed. Yes, the girls have changed. Most there now were pre-teens during my former FKK tenure, and have aged beautifully. Obviously all my old favorites are long gone. But the club itself has changed. Way back when, Palace was largely non-smoking, with a lounge dedicated to tobacco use. Now, anyone can smoke anywhere. I don't object to smoking per se, but the ambient smoke was so heavy it detracted from our enjoyment. Eyes burning and such.
Is unrestricted smoking typical in FKKs now? Or are there clubs of size comparable to Palace still controlling smoking and utilizing a smoking lounge? Preferably near Frankfurt to facilitate convenient air travel from North America. Next time we embark on another quick fucking holiday, we'the prefer to breathe easy and see with unaffiliated eyes.
Kind regards.
ExpatLover
11-06-19, 06:20
I did my first Frankfurt-based FKK tour earlier this year (see my previous reporting), and I am eager to return. I have a window of opportunity starting that weekend after Western Christmas and into that following week of New Year's.
FKK regulars. How slow or busy are the Frankfurt-area FKKs at that time of year, in your experience? Are they more or less active than usual, or at about the same levels of activity?
The conventional wisdom in my usual Latin American stomping grounds is that it is very slow because the girls are spending time with their families. I was wondering if it is any different for the FKKs, since so many of the girls are Orthodox, and Orthodox Christmas is later in January. I remember reading that Orthodox Easter is slow because so many of the girls are gone for that Orthodox holiday.The worse time to visit the clubs is from 15 December to 15 of January, already some girls what's app me that they will take long holidays this year due to low business in the recent months. Better to postpone to beginning of February.
I did my first Frankfurt-based FKK tour earlier this year (see my previous reporting), and I am eager to return. I have a window of opportunity starting that weekend after Western Christmas and into that following week of New Year's.
FKK regulars. How slow or busy are the Frankfurt-area FKKs at that time of year, in your experience? Are they more or less active than usual, or at about the same levels of activity?
The conventional wisdom in my usual Latin American stomping grounds is that it is very slow because the girls are spending time with their families. I was wondering if it is any different for the FKKs, since so many of the girls are Orthodox, and Orthodox Christmas is later in January. I remember reading that Orthodox Easter is slow because so many of the girls are gone for that Orthodox holiday.Sylvester party at Oase and Sharks.
GringoItaliano
11-06-19, 21:32
Sylvester party at Oase and Sharks.Would that be on December 31st (the Western St. Sylvester Day) or January 2nd (the Orthodox St. Sylvester Day)?
Would you expect the number of girls to be low, high, or average for that party? Would you agree with the poster below who said that numbers should be down for that time of year?
I think you need to be more precise, what are the new customers, where are they coming from. I know it is difficult to name clearly the thing. All this is the past for me, so happy with my life out of the P6 scene.He's referring to Turks. Until proven differently.
Would that be on December 31st (the Western St. Sylvester Day) or January 2nd (the Orthodox St. Sylvester Day)?
Would you expect the number of girls to be low, high, or average for that party? Would you agree with the poster below who said that numbers should be down for that time of year?Many girls return home for Christmas and new year, coming back on second part of January, but some Sylvester party on 31 . But not the best casting time, even quantity don t mean quality. Better for me to find only one but attractive beauty, rather than many GND.
He's referring to Turks. Until proven differently.Turkish management and staff is great welcoming at Samya. Turkish management made the most improvements in the club at Sharks, no other club was improved like Sharks. In some clubs, you have now clients who spend more money to buy bottles rather than going with girls, and they usually look for girls on late night when they are drunk.
Is unrestricted smoking typical in FKKs now? Or are there clubs of size comparable to Palace still controlling smoking and utilizing a smoking lounge? Yes, some FKK have better smoke situation. Problem of Palace has bad smoke ventilation (and increasing number of girl demand 150+ for 1 HR). However breathing is OK if you spending most your Palace time in room with lovely girl away from smoke bar area. Also you can relax in Palace "restaurant" smoke free around dinner time to see which girls working that night instead of asthma at bar. Restaurant have self-service coffee and good fruit snack, so you can lounge in restaurant and watch all girls come for dinner. Girl usually notice you there to say Hello, if you smile them.
Mainhattan has dedicated Raucherraum for smoker, so bar area is free to breathing as is dining room.
Shark no smoke problem, very high warehouse ceiling with vent and nice outdoor area.
Oase no smoke problem, very large outdoor area, no smoke in dining room.
So I'll be in Berlin in January for business for a couple days and was thinking of a side trip. Obviously everything is possible / reachable with the train but was seeking some recommendations from those that might have made the same choice. Have a short list of "indie" girls from Lusthaus and Berlin intim just in case, but a room filled with naked ladies is a hard offer to pass.
Thanks all.
ManchesterCat
11-24-19, 11:55
Planning a first trip to Germany, and considering coming around the end of the year (before Christmas and leave after near years) taking advantage of the forced leave they're making us take.
Issue is, I know this is a pretty bad time to visit, and wanted to see what the potential lineups would be like. Is it 'it won't be the best, but it'll be fine, and still up there' or a 'don't bother, come back another time'. Pretty flexible with location (so if Frankfurt etc is better than Berlin etc.) then happy to go with that. Would appreciate any advice. TIA.
Planning a first trip to Germany, and considering coming around the end of the year (before Christmas and leave after near years) taking advantage of the forced leave they're making us take.
Issue is, I know this is a pretty bad time to visit, and wanted to see what the potential lineups would be like. Is it 'it won't be the best, but it'll be fine, and still up there' or a 'don't bother, come back another time'. Pretty flexible with location (so if Frankfurt etc is better than Berlin etc.) then happy to go with that. Would appreciate any advice. TIA.Sharks in Darmstadt is your best option during this time period in my opinion. Lineup might be a little smaller than usual but there will be enough girls for you. If it's your first time you will be blown away anyway. Often when posters are a little negative about this period of time it is both a little smaller lineup and there favourite girls may not be around. I have gone a few times between Christmas and New Years and never been disappointed. I'm going this year as well.
SpermBirds
11-26-19, 15:32
At ManchesterCat regarding your trip around NYE.
Scratch Berlin off the eventual list, only Artemis there anyway worth visiting and even there it has become sooo problematic it's no use.
Frankfurt area has a few more options with some large clubs including Sharks. Palace / Mainhattan are not great to say the least. Oase a upsell club in a downward spiral. Sharks is OK but probably pretty bad ratio because most men will attend there because most girls around Frankfurt know about the "free-entry for the girls" benefits. Bare in mind that this attracts several "gold diggers" and don't be amazed by massive upselling that period of the year.
Dusseldorf area has a lot of clubs with reduced line-up off course like everywhere else during that period of the year. Big + for that area is the almost upsell-free clubbing environment and mostly better average service compared with the Frankfurt area. Most decent clubs do close on NYEve and 24th of December but the other days they're open. Minus point might be the non-naked state of the clubs mostly if you are attracted to watching naked chicks during the day like in FKK-Frankfurt area.
Palace is a interesting club for me, because I will always prefer beauties, even if I have to work hard to get what I want, but always much more enjoyable from a beauty than a GND.
Christmas party and Sylvester party at both Sharks and Oase. Christmas party at World.
Hello gents,
Would be very grateful for information on any Arab girls Moroccan, Lebanese or other Arab or Iranian?
Hello gents,
Would be very grateful for information on any Arab girls Moroccan, Lebanese or other Arab or Iranian?Lovely Lebanese Sofia at Oase, not a model but my lovely friend speaking French, normal in Lebanon. She is said to be exceptional BJ. Better to call Oase because not always there. Very different at Oase, among small Romanians.
Palace is a interesting club for me, because I will always prefer beauties, even if I have to work hard to get what I want, but always much more enjoyable from a beauty than a GND.Pardon such a general question. But mostly we debate which clubs in a city". But if travel inside Germany is no object, what would your top 3 clubs be? I do want to try a couple new ones. Do you aim for the largest =biggest selection. Or do you go to somewhere where the mood and facilities are just unique.
Thanks.
Smoke Light
11-27-19, 17:10
Pardon such a general question. But mostly we debate which clubs in a city". But if travel inside Germany is no object, what would your top 3 clubs be? I do want to try a couple new ones. Do you aim for the largest =biggest selection. Or do you go to somewhere where the mood and facilities are just unique.
Thanks.Currently in Samya conditions are extremely monger-favorable: easily 1:4 or 1:5 men: girls ratio. On average after 8 pm likely 70-80 girls or more, and that's a weekday! Optifuck paradise, lots young and slim girls. Service quality of course not guaranteed, if you care about service, must negotiate everything before the room. And it's hard to recommend girls who where top performers 1-2 years ago. Most no longer kiss, etc. But such is condition in many clubs. Sex work landscape eroding because clients overpay and operators have no control over the workers performance. Anyway, some good performers are still in Samya, like Kiara (Chiara), Samanta, Flori. And I am lucky I still get top rooms with Carla, my beloved friend and sex joy. Good luck.
Lovely Lebanese Sofia at Oase, not a model but my lovely friend speaking French, normal in Lebanon. She is said to be exceptional BJ. Better to call Oase because not always there. Very different at Oase, among small Romanians.Thank you for Sofia. Mersi beaucoup!
Currently in Samya conditions are extremely monger-favorable: easily 1:4 or 1:5 men: girls ratio. On average after 8 pm likely 70-80 girls or more, and that's a weekday! Optifuck paradise, lots young and slim girls. Service quality of course not guaranteed, if you care about service, must negotiate everything before the room. And it's hard to recommend girls who where top performers 1-2 years ago. Most no longer kiss, etc. But such is condition in many clubs. Sex work landscape eroding because clients overpay and operators have no control over the workers performance. Anyway, some good performers are still in Samya, like Kiara (Chiara), Samanta, Flori. And I am lucky I still get top rooms with Carla, my beloved friend and sex joy. Good luck.Yes, some fresh looks, not silicon land, and when you treat them in different way than usual clients, some really high level potentials, higher levels for me on this year than at GT or LR. Also better foods with many fruits, and great staff. 200 € for entry for 5 visits.
There's definitely a lot of English-speaking non-German-speaking guys on this forum who seem to do well communicating their want to girls before going to the room. I'm sure many of the girls also speak some English. But just wanted to know, in general, are you able to communicate what you want in English or do you have a list of the basics in German and you communicate that way? I'll be going to an FKK for the first time in mid-December and want to know if I need to learn the german for DFK, BBBJ etc?
Smoke Light
11-28-19, 06:12
There's definitely a lot of English-speaking non-German-speaking guys on this forum who seem to do well communicating their want to girls before going to the room. I'm sure many of the girls also speak some English. But just wanted to know, in general, are you able to communicate what you want in English or do you have a list of the basics in German and you communicate that way? I'll be going to an FKK for the first time in mid-December and want to know if I need to learn the german for DFK, BBBJ etc?No worries, 95% of FKK girls speak decent English, or a girlfriend sitting next will communicate for you in plain English. Same goes for the reception. Quite a few girls can also handle Spanish, french, italian, or dutch, or even a few words in chinese! Relax and expect a good time. Protect yourself against the scammers: whoever approaches you in the first half hour is a not your friend! Resist and keep them away. Take my word for it. Just say: sorry, thank you, but I am not ready for a room yet. Enjoy!
There's definitely a lot of English-speaking non-German-speaking guys on this forum who seem to do well communicating their want to girls before going to the room. I'm sure many of the girls also speak some English. But just wanted to know, in general, are you able to communicate what you want in English or do you have a list of the basics in German and you communicate that way? I'll be going to an FKK for the first time in mid-December and want to know if I need to learn the german for DFK, BBBJ etc?I first went to Germany this time last year and as someone who doesn't speak a word of German I had zero problems communicating in English. I went to Shark, Oase, Samya & Living Room FKKs. No problems whatsoever in my experience.
Thanks Smoke and Skepti for the responses on language.
I have one more question. What are the best Frankfurt-area FKKs for South-American and African women? Are these any such women in FkKs around Frankfurt? I'm really looking forward to east-european women, but would also love to room with a brazilian / columbian and african lady.
Thanks in advance. I will post a detailed trip report in exchange.
BlackThought
11-28-19, 23:56
Oxygen in blood from real sports is more efficient, why Kenyans and Ethiopians are the best long runners.Not true. Scientists studied their anatomy and found they have difference in the ratio of fast twitch vs slow twitch muscles.
http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.php?topic=7443.0;wap2
Not true. Scientists studied their anatomy and found they have difference in the ratio of fast twitch vs slow twitch muscles.
http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.php?topic=7443.0;wap2Athlets prepare in high altitude to make more oxygen in blood to perform better.
Can still find fresh natural, real beauties in Germany. On this night, 21 yo Amira. Ro ex Great Palace on her first day, what a natural beauty, low level in bed but she is miss multi orgasmus. I think she never thought daddy could fuck her like this for more than 30 mn, cumming and cumming. Another natural beauty, but I just looked at her for more than 1 hour and would never go to her if she doesn't smile. When her friend left, a small smile, so I went to her, very close chat, in room so enjoyable to see a girl wide opening her legs for You, participating for her pleasure, putting her nails in my arms and in my hair, what woman reactions, what a amazing natural BJ when most girls perform like robots, great sex with a woman, really felt like intimacy at Oase. Great surprise. As I told her: with more smiles, I would have run before, thanks for this moment of grace, with reactions seeming real. Hope to see You again she said. Rare high level enjoyed.
Not true. Scientists studied their anatomy and found they have difference in the ratio of fast twitch vs slow twitch muscles.
http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.php?topic=7443.0;wap2Not disagreeing with anything you are saying or agreeing with the statements about athletes from certain countries. What I will say that Sirioja's claim that fitness reduces the need for ED drugs can be backed by medical studies. My doctor told me, exchanging five pounds of body fat for muscle mass would naturally significantly increase testosterone levels.
"Moderate obesity predominantly decreases total testosterone due to insulin resistance-associated reductions in sex hormone binding globulin. ".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3955331/#idm140240877291616 title.
Yes, some FKK have better smoke situation. Problem of Palace has bad smoke ventilation (and increasing number of girl demand 150+ for 1 HR). However breathing is OK if you spending most your Palace time in room with lovely girl away from smoke bar area. Also you can relax in Palace "restaurant" smoke free around dinner time to see which girls working that night instead of asthma at bar. Restaurant have self-service coffee and good fruit snack, so you can lounge in restaurant and watch all girls come for dinner. Girl usually notice you there to say Hello, if you smile them.
Mainhattan has dedicated Raucherraum for smoker, so bar area is free to breathing as is dining room.
Shark no smoke problem, very high warehouse ceiling with vent and nice outdoor area.
Oase no smoke problem, very large outdoor area, no smoke in dining room.Thanks. I'll be back in FRA 14-15 Dec. Good to know, both for my own eyes and lungs as well as to do recon for my typical wingman.
I first went to Germany this time last year and as someone who doesn't speak a word of German I had zero problems communicating in English. I went to Shark, Oase, Samya & Living Room FKKs. No problems whatsoever in my experience.Honestly most of the Romanians I met preferred English. A few were comfortable in German. None in French. The One Brazilian I met was happy in any of the three.
English will get you through almost all appts.
Can still find fresh natural, real beauties in Germany. On this night, 21 yo Amira. Ro ex Great Palace on her first day, what a natural beauty, low level in bed but she is miss multi orgasmus. I think she never thought daddy could fuck her like this for more than 30 mn, cumming and cumming. Another natural beauty, but I just looked at her for more than 1 hour and would never go to her if she doesn't smile. When her friend left, a small smile, so I went to her, very close chat, in room so enjoyable to see a girl wide opening her legs for You, participating for her pleasure, putting her nails in my arms and in my hair, what woman reactions, what a amazing natural BJ when most girls perform like robots, great sex with a woman, really felt like intimacy at Oase. Great surprise. As I told her: with more smiles, I would have run before, thanks for this moment of grace, with reactions seeming real. Hope to see You again she said. Rare high level enjoyed.Nothing about Oase, but feeling with her like intimacy at home, in bed with your girlfriend, she really wanted to give me pleasure after her orgasmus. Great discovery of this Romanian beauty who became wild for sex. Rare pleasure, will see if confirmed on next week.
Lucky Nuts
11-30-19, 05:40
Thanks Smoke and Skepti for the responses on language.
I have one more question. What are the best Frankfurt-area FKKs for South-American and African women? Are these any such women in FkKs around Frankfurt? I'm really looking forward to east-european women, but would also love to room with a brazilian / columbian and african lady.
Thanks in advance. I will post a detailed trip report in exchange.Last month I made several visits to Sharks and Oase. Every day at Sharks a chica from Brazil talked with me a few minutes. She's very friendly and of African descent. I don't recall meeting any South Americans at Oase.
I make a point of sampling different mongering destinations to broaden my horizons and see if I like any new places as much as or more than ones that I already know. My overseas mongering up to this point had been mostly in Latin America, with a bit in Southeast Asia and one trip to Amsterdam. German FKKs remained a major gap in my experience that I decided to fill. I am glad that I did so, as this Frankfurt-based FKK tour was one of my best overseas mongering experiences thus far, despite significant downsides. I will be adding FKKs to my regular rotation for future trips. This post is an overview of my FKK tour; I will also be posting reviews of the FKKs that I visited.
Why I went there.
I had read mixed reviews about German FKKs and identified strong pros and cons. Selling points included: the Eastern European talent pool, for which Eastern Europeans in my native New York had whetted my appetite; the visual quality of the lineups; the female nudity; reports of strong oral skills; and the chance to monger in the safety and comfort of a highly developed country with more culture and sightseeing. The last point was key for me, as I prefer multifaceted travel experiences and need downtime to rest my dick and recharge my libido. I had visited Berlin and Munich before I discovered overseas mongering. I took more of a liking to Germany than other European countries, and I hoped to return someday to explore western parts of Germany, which fit very well with my FKK itinerary.
There are nonetheless significant downsides to German FKKs, which were almost enough to deter me. Jet lag is a non-trivial factor for North American mongers used to similar time zones in Latin America. Many FKKs are in remote locations (from the perspective of an urbanite like me) and can be time-consuming, inconvenient, or expensive to reach via public transportation. Total costs are higher than in Third World destinations (except maybe Brazil), and high FKK cover charges impose significant costs before one even pays for a session. More importantly, much of what I had read about the aggressive behavior of the girls, particularly unsolicited approaches and frequent upsell, led me to wonder if it was worth the cost and hassle. Germany's 2017 law requiring the use of condoms even for blowjobs had initially led me to rule out FKKs altogether, as CBJ is generally a deal breaker for me. I put FKKs back on my agenda when I learned that BBBJ is still widely available, as enforcement of the law is weak.
Planning.
I decided to do my first FKK tour from a hotel base in Frankfurt for both mongering and non-mongering reasons. Frankfurt is a major transportation hub internationally and within Germany. I found a reasonably priced overnight Delta flight from JFK into Frankfurt. I stayed at Hamburger Hof, one of a few reasonably priced hotels right across the street from the main Frankfurt train station. Frankfurt was in the middle of other places that I wanted to visit for non-mongering reasons (Heidelberg, Wurzburg, Cologne, and Worms) via train rides of an hour or so. I bought a Deutsche Bahn rail pass for non-Europeans, which was a great investment, as buying individual tickets would have cost a lot more.
The Frankfurt area FKKs seemed to be the most popular and highly regarded among foreigners. Sharks and Oase seemed to be the most highly regarded of those Frankfurt area FKKs and were thus top priorities. Palace and Mainhattan made it onto my list due to their greater accessibility within Frankfurt. I considered World but decided against it due to mixed reviews and its inconvenient location. I considered Rom and Atlanta but decided against them due to limited and lukewarm reporting. Dietzenbach had originally been on my agenda for its BBFS. I later decided against it once I was on the ground due to the combination of lower visual quality in its lineup and because the service in the other FKKs worked out so well for me that BBFS was no longer a priority (I will explain below). I also went to FKK Samya in Cologne because I visited that city for non-mongering reasons, and I wanted to try an FKK outside the heavier foreign influence in the Frankfurt area. Samya seemed to be the most highly regarded FKK in or around Cologne, rivaling the Frankfurt area FKKs in popularity among foreigners.
The Talent Pool.
The visual quality of the talent in these FKKs was among the highest that I have seen anywhere in my view, only Brazil and Colombia can compete with them. The female nudity is another advantage; it enables thorough inspection of the merchandise before deciding and provides visual stimulation between sessions. The talent pool was remarkable not only for the stunners but also for its overall average quality; mediocre girls were few in number. These FKKs clearly have good quality control.
With that said, the prevailing tastes among whoever is responsible for the lineups at these FKKs clearly differ from mine and run quite a bit skinnier than I would have liked. A good set of tits & ass was harder to come by, compared to my usual haunts in Latin America. I presume that this selection of body types reflects both the genetic heritage of the largely Eastern European lineups and the preferences of the largely European and East Asian clientele. The high quality of the lineups nonetheless made it easier to venture outside my comfort zone, and I adjusted to what appears to be the prevailing aesthetic.
What these FKKs lacked in diversity of body types they made up for in ethnic diversity, including facial features and skin, hair, and eye colors. Romanians were clearly the largest group. Most of them were on the darker end of the color spectrum, but I encountered a few lighter blondes too. One of my preferred nationalities turned out to be Hungarians, many of whom appeared to be lighter blondes, and Moldovans, who seemed to be a mix of the lighter and darker types. There were also more than a few Ukrainians and even a few Russians, which I did not expect to find; they were mostly on the lighter and more Nordic end of the spectrum. Curiously, I encountered only one Czech and one Bulgarian; I had expected them to be more common. Other outliers included a few Serbians, Greeks, and Africans, and even one Iranian. I did not encounter a single native / ethnic German girl. I had hoped for more of the lighter blonde types and fewer of the darker Romanians. I have had so many Latinas over the years and wanted a change from the darker types with more of the lighter blondes, of which I would have expected to find more in Germany, of all places. Also, some of the darker Romanians had almost South Asian-looking facial features, perhaps due to Gypsy genetic heritage, which I found rather unappealing.
The Service.
FKK girls can definitely be aggressive, but on average I did not find them more aggressive than their counterparts in Latin America, which was what I expected based on what I had read online. I would argue instead that their aggressiveness merely manifested itself in different ways. A greater proportion of the total aggressiveness seemed to be concentrated in a smaller number of girls. One lesson that I learned in my previous experience is to avoid the first girl (or a pair of girls, often proposing a threesome) that approaches me immediately after entering a mongering venue, especially when I am new to that venue. Such girls are usually sharks hungry for fresh meat and low-hanging fruit. In a typical Latin American venue, one or two such girls might approach immediately upon one's arrival, and others will approach intermittently over the course of an evening. In these FKKs, most of the girls that approached me at all over the course of the evening did so within the first half hour or hour of my arrival, often in quick succession, one right after the other. My record was 12 girls in the first 30 minutes (although some of them were in pairs). Most of those girls left me alone after I expressed my lack of interest, although one or two of the most aggressive circled back for another shot. Having thus filtered out the sharks, I could eventually focus my efforts on the remaining girls, whom I did not find to be aggressive at all. The levels of aggressiveness also varied considerably from one FKK to another.
The FKK girls were usually quick to deliver their pitches after they approached and generally kept the "getting to know you" verbal foreplay to a minimum, compared to the lengthier "interviews" that one can often do in many Third World venues. While some guys may interpret this directness as aggression, one should also remember that Germans and Eastern Europeans in general often have more direct and abrupt communication styles than many North Americans and Western Europeans. I would still shoot down any girl that cut to the chase too quickly. One such girl's first words to me, before greeting me, introducing herself, or any other pleasantries, were "do you want to have sex with me?
The use of English was pervasive at these FKKs and appeared to be the norm. Language barriers were rarely an issue, except at Sharks, which came as a surprise to me, as it appears to be the most popular and highly regarded among foreigners. I had a session there with a Hungarian who spoke no English; I managed to explain what I wanted with a few key phrases in German that I had memorized. Linguistic accessibility is a key advantage for those mongers that do not speak German or other relevant languages, such as myself. In other destinations, one can transcend language barriers with translation apps on smart phones, which would not be feasible in FKKs with policies against phone usage.
The pervasive upsell in the room that others described turned out to be far less of an issue than I expected. I had only one egregious case, in which a girl that I had taken to the room invited a second girl to join us in the room for a threesome without consulting me. I had to say "no" twice, raising my voice the second time, before they gave up. Aside from that incident, I encountered only a few mild instances of upsell in the room, which I deflected easily enough with a simple "no. " I may have preempted much of the upsell in the room by being clear in pre-session negotiations in the social areas about both what I did want (kissing, BBBJ, and the option for CIM) and what I did not want (threesomes and anal). Curiously, I received more unsolicited offers of anal than in Brazil, which I thought was the world capital of anal. Anal enthusiasts may want to add FKKs to their agenda.
I am comfortable paying more for higher levels of service, particularly for BBBJ, which is critical for me, and the option to CIM, which I value. I do, however, have a few critiques of the way that the FKK girls structure fees. The first is that they only negotiate in 50 euro increments, as if 5, 10, and 20 euro bills did not exist. This approach can double the cost of a session, from the basic 50 euros to 100 euros for whatever premium services one negotiates. I tried negotiating in increments smaller than 50 euros early on and got such hostile responses that I stopped. The second is that some of them seem to itemize excessively, such as the girl that suggested an extra 50 euros just to lick my balls (which I of course refused). I think that service should come in broad tiers (basic / minimal, GFE, and PSE / extreme), rather than charging an extra 50 euros (no smaller increments, of course) for each individual item, as some do. The third is that they seem to have a fixation with charging more for wherever or whenever one shoots one's load outside the condom, such as in their mouths or anywhere on their bodies, more so than with the service that actually gets one to the point of shooting one's load anywhere in the first place.
The aggressiveness and upsell are manifestations of another point that may also have advantages. The girls clearly demonstrated strong motivations and were definitely not lazy, which contrasts favorably with the weak work ethic and often poor performances and general flakiness of many girls in the Third World economies of Latin America and Southeast Asia. I imagine that Germans would have less tolerance for such behavior; perhaps the girls have absorbed some of the famous German work ethic.
Most remarkable for me was that, out of 16 sessions in five FKKs in seven days, all but one of my sessions were at least satisfactory, and that one dud of a session was probably attributable to a lapse in judgment on my part. I also had a record-high proportion of strong performers; out of 16 girls, a slight majority of them (nine) would have been worth a repeat if I had more time on the ground. Even in Rio de Janeiro and Medellin, I have never had such a high success rate and consistently good performance.
Blowjobs were the one area in which these FKK girls quite consistently distinguished themselves head and shoulders (pardon the pun) above the rest. No other destination or venues that I have visited anywhere else in the world has had so many girls with such consistently good head game. It was almost as if they went to the same cocksucking school and had to pass an oral exam (pardon the pun) to work at the FKKs. The girls with the best head game in Brazil or Colombia would be just average by FKK standards, and Colombians are notorious for their often half-assed or reluctant head game.
I am curious as to why the FKK girls in particular would have such exceptional oral skills. Perhaps there are cultural factors, as I have found some great Eastern European head game here in New York, but nothing that prepared me for what to expect in Germany. Ironically, I wonder if the 2017 condom law, which makes BBBJ illegal if the authorities ever enforce it, actually motivates the girls to excel at BBBJ by giving them an excuse for oral upsell, specifically for CIM. I sensed that a lot of girls wanted me to cum in their mouths so that they could justify the now-typical 50 euro CIM surcharge, which (from what I have read) seems to have proliferated in the wake of the 2017 law. I often had to tell the girls to stop sucking my cock so that I could put on a condom and proceed with CFS before I nutted.
This tendency was a welcome contrast to Colombians and other Latinas, some of whom give just a token blowjob before they decide that it is time to proceed to CFS, and they are often reluctant to provide a BBBJ finish if necessary, let alone CIM. I often have difficulty busting a nut via CFS by the end of a week-long Latin American mongering trip from fucking too much for so long, particularly if a girl's head game is weak or half-assed. I encountered no such issues in the FKKs, except for one dud that might have been a poor choice on my part. Aside from that one session at the very end of the week, the FKK girls' head game prepared me well for CFS, and I nutted in the condom each and every time. I had agreed during pre-session negotiations that I would pay the 50 euro CIM fee as a contingency if and when CIM happened, but it never happened, as I had enough discipline and self-control to switch to CFS when I was ready, and I never needed CIM for them to finish me off either. This achievement was unprecedented in my entire mongering experience. I had originally planned to go to Dietzenbach for BBFS toward the end of the week, as I had thought that I might have trouble finishing in a condom by that point. That concern did not come true, so I stuck to the FKKs with the more attractive girls.
Another factor that probably motivates strong performance in the FKKs is the standard practice of paying the girls after the session, not upfront. Paying up front is typical in the controlled environments of many strip clubs and brothels in Latin America where girls work for "the house" and robs the girls of much of their motivation to excel (if they have any at all). They have your money already, so why bother? Withholding payment until after the session is much more likely to yield satisfying results. In most FKKs, there are special lockers near the front desk to secure phones and wallets, separate from the lockers for clothes in the changing areas. Paying the girls in sight of the front desk is probably a good idea, so as to facilitate resolution in the event of any payment disputes (I did not have any). By the same token, the security at FKKs probably makes the girls more comfortable receiving payment after the session, as they know that guys are unlikely to get away with ripping them off and not paying them (which is a risk for independent girls in Latin America). I did appreciate this "circle of trust" that the FKKs can create, despite some inappropriate behavior here and there.
Some FKKs have signs prohibiting cell phones and photography. A benefit of this policy is that the girls will not have phones on them to distract them, which is a pervasive problem in many Third World venues. The downside is that this policy makes it harder to exchange contact information for further communication outside the FKK, which I imagine (correct me if I am wrong) that management would discourage and one should probably not do in sight of the front desk at the phone & wallet lockers. I suppose that one could discreetly write down phone numbers on paper and enter them into phones later, if one were sufficiently motivated. Aside from the opportunity to arrange often cheaper sessions outside the venue in which we originally met, I enjoy maintaining contact with girls that I particularly liked. If nothing else, such contact often enables them to send photos, which would be great in the case of the FKKs, given the typical policies against photography on-site. Taking photos of the girls that one just fucked are great souvenirs from Third World destinations and are a priceless addition to trip reports. This area is one in which FKKs fell short in comparison with Third World destinations.
More broadly, even if it were easier to maintain contact with the girls outside the FKKs, I sensed that they might be less open to it. They seemed to have more of a psychological and emotional barrier between their professional personas and their true selves, compared to their Third World counterparts, whom I believe put more of their genuine selves into their work. Some of these FKK girls delivered solid GFE for the time that we spent together in the rooms, but I think it would be much harder to develop deeper connections with them, as I have often done with girls in Latin America. Tellingly, I noticed that most of the FKK girls used artificial lube in their pussies in our sessions, which I have rarely encountered in Latin America or Southeast Asia; most of the girls lubricated themselves naturally there. I looked and acted the same as I have in those Third World destinations. Unless there is something about me that is uniquely unappealing to Eastern Europeans in particular, I would wager that many of the FKK girls do not, or do not allow themselves to, become genuinely aroused, whereas many of the Latinas do. This greater disconnect is probably the downside of their greater professionalism.
The Facilities.
The hefty FKK cover charges, as high as 75 euros, are a significant downside. They not only increase total costs but require spending a significant chunk of change on an "overhead" expense before even getting laid. Combined with the inconvenient locations of many FKKs, the "sunk costs" of FKK entry fees discourage one from moving from one FKK to another during the same day / evening if the talent pool is not working out, so one must choose one's FKKs carefully. In order to get the most out of FKK entry fees, one should do at least two sessions per visit; it would be hard to justify the high cost of entry for only one session. Three sessions would be ideal, if one's stamina is up to the challenge, but it is also important to pace oneself, especially on a longer trip. I think that the price structure of the Brazilian termas, which have a business model similar to that of the FKKs, is better, as more of one's total spending goes to the girls and less of it goes to "the house" in the form of cover charges.
Aside from access to the talent pool and session rooms and the female nudity, I did not find much else on the premises of the FKKs to justify the steep entry fees. The strongest selling point, aside from the above, is the all-you-can-eat food, but the quality of the food varied considerably from one FKK to another, from excellent to nearly inedible. Another problem is the pervasive cigarette smoke in the social areas of some FKKs, but not those with designated smoking areas (Samya and Mainhattan). The problem with both the food and the smoking is that many of the girls did not brush their teeth or otherwise freshen up after eating and / or smoking. I rejected more than a few girls for bad breath; I cannot recall having encountered this problem nearly as often in any Third World destinations. Some of the Brazilian termas provide toothbrushes, deodorant, and even disposable razors with their lower entry fees, but only Sharks provided just some spray-on deodorant. I brought my own hygiene supplies.
Comparisons of the FKKs.
Out of the four FKKs in the Frankfurt area that I visited, I would break them down into two pairs: Sharks and Oase on one hand and Palace and Mainhattan on the other hand. The obvious difference is geographic: Palace and Mainhattan are conveniently located within the city limits of Frankfurt, whereas Sharks and Oase are in distant exurbs / suburbs of the greater Frankfurt metropolitan area. There were nonetheless significant differences in the appearances and behaviors of the girls in these two pairs of FKKs that parallel the geographic division and may well have resulted from it. The conventional wisdom seems to hold that the FKKs in and around Frankfurt differ from those elsewhere in Germany because of their higher proportions of foreign visitors. If that difference is true, then it stands to reason that those differences would be even more true of Palace and Mainhattan than Sharks and Oase, as the former's locations within Frankfurt make them more easily accessible to foreign visitors.
In my opinion, the visual quality of the talent pool in Palace and Mainhattan was significantly higher than that of Sharks and Oase, which I had not expected based on what I had read online. I did try to factor out my personal tastes when making this judgment, but I cannot exclude the possibility that whoever was responsible for determining the lineups at both Palace and Mainhattan simply had tastes much closer to mine. Curiously, some Latin American destinations have similar divisions between markets for mostly North American foreign visitors and local Latino guys. The foreigners pay better, so their venues attract the hottest girls of any body type, and their taste in body types run thinner than those of local Latino guys, so they attract more of the thinner girls. In this case, however, Palace and Mainhattan had some slightly more voluptuous types that better suited my personal tastes.
By the same token, perhaps the more lucrative foreigner market can corrupt the girls' attitudes and behaviors, which may be why the girls at the more remote Sharks and Oase behaved differently and in more consistently good ways. Ironically, given its name, the girls at Sharks had the least aggressive behavior of these four FKKs and were the least likely to upsell. The girls at Oase were not aggressive but were more likely to engage in upsell than those at Sharks. The girls at Palace were the most aggressive of all and were also the most likely to engage in upsell. The girls at Mainhattan were not so much aggressive but proactive, and their attempts at upsell were usually mild and easy to deflect. The service was also more consistently good at Sharks and Oase than Palace and Mainhattan.
I assume that it is these behavioral differences that accounts for much of what appears to be the greater popularity of Sharks and Oase, from what I have read online. If that is the case, I cannot dispute the reasoning behind it, but I also could not justify going back to Sharks or Oase during this trip because the talent pool simply did not appeal to me as much as that of Palace or Mainhattan. I saw many more girls on my first visits to Palace and Mainhattan that I still wanted to fuck, which was why I returned to them for second visits during this trip. Between Palace and Mainhattan, the latter was clearly the better of the two. The girls at Mainhattan behaved better and provided my single best session on the trip, the hottest girl on the trip (and one of my Top 5 of all time), and a personal bucket list item. I also had my only dud of a session there, which I attribute to my overconfidence in the quality of experiences there, leading to a lapse in judgment. Lesson learned: never let your guard down, even in the best places.
My visit to Samya in Cologne got me out of the more heavily foreign-influenced FKKs in and around Frankfurt. The quality of the talent was lower, but also a closer fit for my personal tastes, e. G. They were not so skinny and had more tits & ass. I wonder if these voluptuous body types that I prefer are what Germans would consider lower-quality, or if this composition of the talent pool reflects the tastes of the heavily Turkish clientele there. The quality of the service was within the same range as that of the Frankfurt FKKs, as it yielded one of the better sessions of the trip and another that was just satisfactory.
For Further Discussion.
I have some questions, the answers to which may help me and others plan future trips.
Based on my above feedback, what if any other region (s) of Germany would you recommend for my future FKK tours, besides the obvious choice of North-Rhine Westphalia? Bavaria? Hamburg? Stuttgart? Saxony?
What if any differences in appearance, service, behavior, and facilities should I expect as I explore more FKKs further from the heavier foreign influence in and around Frankfurt?
How frequently (if at all) do you session with girls that approach you? Have you found that the results are any better or worse than the results with those that you choose yourself?
Have you found that the FKK girls have exceptionally strong oral skills, as I did? If so, do you have any ideas as to why that might be the case? Have you found any other destinations where the girls have equally good or better oral skills?
Have you maintained contact with any of the girls outside the FKKs, and what if any results did such contacts yield?I love this detail report, I am visiting soon so I will be checking out these places.
I love this detail report, I am visiting soon so I will be checking out these places.Please don't quote all of a long post, there is no need.
BartthePimpSon
12-04-19, 10:42
Which FKK tends to have the biggest lineup? My trip to Europe ends next week and I want to spend my last full day in an FKK.
I've been to Artemis, Sharks, and Oase.
Which FKK tends to have the biggest lineup? My trip to Europe ends next week and I want to spend my last full day in an FKK.
I've been to Artemis, Sharks, and Oase.For number of girls, Sharks but don t mean quality for looks. Prettier girls for me at Oase or Samya or maybe even few at GT.
GuyBrusg1957
12-05-19, 02:10
How do the girls at the clubs compare to the girls on http://pornescort.xxx/escorts.
And will the clubs be busy during New Years and after or completely dead?
ExpatLover
12-05-19, 07:47
Which FKK tends to have the biggest lineup? My trip to Europe ends next week and I want to spend my last full day in an FKK.
I've been to Artemis, Sharks, and Oase.
Shark, but if prettiest means for you fresh, natural, a little bit of education, probably very hard to find in any club, just veteran prostitutes around switching from one club to another, or from escort in London or Madrid to FKK again, you can be luckier with escorts. Artemis was always a nightmare for me gave a very last try this summer but left after several saunas without any room, just not one girls sexy enough for me to spend my money for, when I saw some of them outside around the pool their skin was terrible, body passable, in conclusion if you see most of the girls from FKK in daylight without makeup, extensions, Botox. I think we will never spend 1 euro for them.
I see that Salome & Acapulco both have a party on Christmas Day 25th. Are there many clubs open that day?
I have an upcoming business trip to Germany with enough time for a Artemis and Sharks visits. Never been to a FKK but I've had my share of experiences elsewhere around the world, most of them in the Tijuana clubs.
A few questions: I'm a simple man, who's always wanted a 2-girl BJ. Where both of them are working on me at once, not just taking turns. Ffm experiences are always hard to set up well. Any thoughts on how I might get good service in a relatively unfamiliar club? I don't have the highest hopes but kinda want to try anyways. My mongering opportunities are limited these days and it's a bucket list item.
Cost- wise what would that run me? Would not need full service, just BBBJ. Any discounts available for sessions where you just want oral pleasuring in general?
Thanks all, these forums are great for a Germany newbie.
I have an upcoming business trip to Germany with enough time for a Artemis and Sharks visits. Never been to a FKK but I've had my share of experiences elsewhere around the world, most of them in the Tijuana clubs.
A few questions: I'm a simple man, who's always wanted a 2-girl BJ. Where both of them are working on me at once, not just taking turns. Ffm experiences are always hard to set up well. Any thoughts on how I might get good service in a relatively unfamiliar club? I don't have the highest hopes but kinda want to try anyways. My mongering opportunities are limited these days and it's a bucket list item.
Cost- wise what would that run me? Would not need full service, just BBBJ. Any discounts available for sessions where you just want oral pleasuring in general?
Thanks all, these forums are great for a Germany newbie.Go to a RTC, take 2 girls for 20 mn, cost 2*30€ . You can even fuck them without condom if you want for this cheap rate. On happy hours, some entry are for only 10 or 15€.
Smoke Light
12-10-19, 10:40
I see that Salome & Acapulco both have a party on Christmas Day 25th. Are there many clubs open that day?Samya newsletter indicates they are open 24th 25th and 26th at regular hours. I am curious how the lineup is going to look like.
Smoke Light
12-10-19, 10:51
A few questions: I'm a simple man, who's always wanted a 2-girl BJ. Where both of them are working on me at once, not just taking turns. Ffm experiences are always hard to set up well. Any thoughts on how I might get good service in a relatively unfamiliar club? I don't have the highest hopes but kinda want to try anyways. My mongering opportunities are limited these days and it's a bucket list item.It takes a little bit of luck, but possible. My recommendation is to find a nice non-sharky girl and speak to her before the room. I would even take her for a test drive for 30 minutes. You are not obligated to finish during the test drive, it's up to you. Then she can help you find the second girl to go together in the next room.
FuckedUpSwede
12-10-19, 17:14
Any thoughts on how I might get good service in a relatively unfamiliar club?
Cost- wise what would that run me? Would not need full service, just BBBJ. Any discounts available for sessions where you just want oral pleasuring?.It is very common to be approached by women in a FKK offering a double so the setup should not be too hard to get.
I have tried it but as you say they want to take turns. I would approach a women I fancy and tell her exactly how I want it and let her choose the second girl. Two pros, 1 the girl gets good standing with the girl she choose, 2 you do not risk picking two girls who hate eachother.
Concerning price I think you would destroy a lot by trying to lower the price from the standard level. I would do this at a establishment where I know the price level and just pay up.
I normally reply "why would I need two girls when I only have one dick" when they ask me about a double and that normally ends the discussion.
Last time however I got the answer "but you have a tounge as well, don't you?" Interesting answer I must admit!
It is very common to be approached by women in a FKK offering a double so the setup should not be too hard to get.
A few questions: I'm a simple man, who's always wanted a 2-girl BJ. Where both of them are working on me at once, not just taking turns. I was in Sharks a couple weeks ago. There were two girls walking around hand in hand. I'm sure if you see them (and they would be hard to miss), you'd be up for a good time. BUT BUT BUT, be specific when you ask for the session. Ask how much and ask what is included. If it isn't what you want, you can ask how much for the BJ times 2. If you don't like that, find the girl you like and ask her if she's got a friend (as FUSwede says).
Bottom line a 2 girl experience is COMMON at these clubs. People post it all the time, you see guys going upstairs with 2 girls. I again agree with the Swede, you don't want to drive a hard bargain on price, it won't make the session better. You can alway say, wow that's a bit beyond my budget and see if she lowers the price but expect it will be no less than 2 x the normal price for one girl, right? Be specific about two at once, because I would also assume the girls might expect to only work half the time.
Thanks for the thoughts on FFM. Always a good idea to confirm they'll do what you want in advance, doubly so here. Figured it'the be 2 x the cost or so and the extra few euros isn't going to make a difference to me when it's a bucket list thing. Hope I can find a girl I click with and get her to pick a preferred doubles partner.
A few questions: I'm a simple man, who's always wanted a 2-girl BJ. Where both of them are working on me at once, not just taking turns. Problem is some FFM will wipe every time before take turn, which is very annoy especially if they intentional wipe meticulous and slowly to wasting your time. Better when they are sister they do not wipe and will give the service simultaneous without take turn. Pick room with mirror cover the entire ceiling, at Oase there is one right by front bar.
At Oase, double blondes sisters blue-eye Laura and slim Giusy / Juicy. It was a dreams come true.
At Oase, double brunette sisters young slender Christina and pretty sister Mickey. It was a dreams come true.
Typically just pay your honest 50 Euro 30 min per girl, normal rate, so it is 100 Euro 1 HR from your pocket. If you make happy mess on them, 50 Euro extra for every girl who need clean-up. I not sure what other have been able for negotiate however.
Hi friends,
I am not confident enough to drive in Germany as I am familiar with only right hand drive even though I have an international license. I am preparing for my fifth FKK visits in two years coming up in June. Since I enjoy more on day light and traveling alone I prefer my trips between June and September. This time I have to visit Acapulco staying in Klon and GT staying in Dusseldorf. I depend mainly on Train and buses using google and apps. Does it comfortable to travel by train to these places up and down? I have plenty of time for me so can reach saunas early and leave before the last bus and train. Hope senior members can help me with more suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Samya newsletter indicates they are open 24th 25th and 26th at regular hours. I am curious how the lineup is going to look like.One of the best casting in Germany for fresh looks. Like anywhere, can make some becoming great and high level for us, quite easy when You are different from usual clients, but I will prefer ski for Christmas and when Winter, will try to discover Ukrainian and really from Republic of Moldavia, gold mine under sun, wish they will be pretty enough to make me dream to motivate me to do the job to give them will to please me. Always interesting to discover a new place and new girls.
BigBuddy69
12-11-19, 10:03
Acapulco from Koln could be a very a long trip I think, maybe 2 hours. From Dusseldorf it's shorter. As for GT I never tried but I don't think it's very easy.
Hi friends,
I am not confident enough to drive in Germany as I am familiar with only right hand drive even though I have an international license. I am preparing for my fifth FKK visits in two years coming up in June. Since I enjoy more on day light and traveling alone I prefer my trips between June and September. This time I have to visit Acapulco staying in Klon and GT staying in Dusseldorf. I depend mainly on Train and buses using google and apps. Does it comfortable to travel by train to these places up and down? I have plenty of time for me so can reach saunas early and leave before the last bus and train. Hope senior members can help me with more suggestions.
Thanks in advance.Not really easy without car. Even used to drive on left side, but Germany is really easy and safe to drive if You don t drink. To test car performances, balance and grip. Even don't work yet as I want, but working to improve performances even complicated to make work in different way but together engine and sequential gear box electronics. Was much easier with manual gear box without electronics. But working hard on this and Germany is good place when leaving works zone with kick down maximum acceleration, gear falling from 6 to 3, then just amazing violent acceleration, great feeling.
Problem is some FFM will wipe every time before take turn, which is very annoy especially if they intentional wipe meticulous and slowly to wasting your time.Worth saying again. You just need to specifically ask them BEFORE you go to the room. I want both of you at the same time giving me oral. If they look hesitant but say yes, I'd stay away. It's not a complicated question and you will NOT BE THE FIRST or LAST who wants this. Really, in the realm of requests, this is almost like asking for Ketchup on French Fries. Mainstream.
Have you found that the FKK girls have exceptionally strong oral skills, as I did? If so, do you have any ideas as to why that might be the case? Have you found any other destinations where the girls have equally good or better oral skills?
Have you maintained contact with any of the girls outside the FKKs, and what if any results did such contacts yield?I used to go to Tijuana a lot in the late 1990 to early 2000. Most of the Latina girls would do BBJ however they seem to consider it Dirty or Sinful. I had one girl make the sign of the cross over my dick before she started her BBJ. I think it's more of a cultural thing.
FKK, with the ability to make an extra 50 Euro, the girls either to use the 2017 law or to have you Cum in their mouth, becomes a money motive. The better the oral skill, the more opportunity for her.
As for getting contact info, I have gotten some numbers from girls I like on WhatsApp. However, because I go to Germany once a year, most drop out of the business and delete their account. I have only 2 or 3, I let know when I will be visiting the club.
Hi friends,
I am not confident enough to drive in Germany as I am familiar with only right hand drive even though I have an international license.I drive on the right side too and I took my car to Germany, I have also driven left hand drive cars as well. You should not have too much of a problem driving on the other side of the road, I do recommend that you rent an automatic as a manual will be too much to handle, then you will be able to deal with German roads. I also suggest that you have a good GPS on your phone and use it! You don't want to get stressed out and get lost. But ordinary driving will be easy enough, there are only two things to keep an eye on - 1) your position in the lane and 2) to turn right when you enter a roundabout not left. All the rest is the same.
Hi friends,
I am not confident enough to drive in Germany as I am familiar with only right hand drive even though I have an international license. I am preparing for my fifth FKK visits in two years coming up in June. Since I enjoy more on day light and traveling alone I prefer my trips between June and September. This time I have to visit Acapulco staying in Klon and GT staying in Dusseldorf. I depend mainly on Train and buses using google and apps. Does it comfortable to travel by train to these places up and down? I have plenty of time for me so can reach saunas early and leave before the last bus and train. Hope senior members can help me with more suggestions.
Thanks in advance.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ggen&p=2351704#post2351704.
Hey,
Click on my link above to See my detailed post from July 26, 2019, "Dusseldorf to Golden Time," via train and bus, 30 Euros round trip. Travel time is about 1 hour.
FuckedUpSwede
12-11-19, 22:43
there are only two things to keep an eye on - 1) your position in the lane and 2) to turn right when you enter a roundabout not left. All the rest is the same.I would add one thing. Always check your rear mirrors before you change lane on the autobahn since regardless how fast you drive there will be one driving faster than you. Always.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ggen&p=2351704#post2351704.
Hey,
Click on my link above to See my detailed post from July 26, 2019, "Dusseldorf to Golden Time," via train and bus, 30 Euros round trip. Travel time is about 1 hour.Can't access the report. Can you clarify it? You mean RE13 to Nettetal Kaldenkirchen and then bus 74 to Bruggen Tierpark. ?
Regards.
Stay safe.
I would add one thing. Always check your rear mirrors before you change lane on the autobahn since regardless how fast you drive there will be one driving faster than you. Always.Yes, you are very right about this. NL going on holidays changing line with caravan are real danger, they have no idea about speed when You arrive behind more than 100 km / h faster, then You arrive so fast in their back and better to know how to really kick in brakes like in race, your only luck not to crash. Same with some trucks, sometimes You need to return on right line to get a little longer braking distance when they need from Basel to Hamburg to overcome the other truck. Be careful about radars in works zones, much more expensive fees than in normal parts. But on some parts, great enjoyment to speed, amazing new curve arriving to Neuss, to try now full speed with quattro.
Can't access the report. Can you clarify it? You mean RE13 to Nettetal Kaldenkirchen and then bus 74 to Bruggen Tierpark.
Regards.
Stay safe.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2589-Sauna-Club-Golden-Time-Bruggen&p=2351704
Dated 7/26/2019.
Yes, take the RE 13 to Kaldenkirchen bhf, walk 10 minutes and then take bus 74 to Tierpark, Bruggen, then walk 5 minutes to Golden Time.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2589-Sauna-Club-Golden-Time-Bruggen&p=2351704
Dated 7/26/2019.
Yes, take the RE 13 to Kaldenkirchen bhf, walk 10 minutes and then take bus 74 to Tierpark, Bruggen, then walk 5 minutes to Golden Time.Thank you very much.
I'm going to be in Frankfurt for 3-4 days in early March. I've been in Thailand for the past 7 months and am a bit f* out being an old man, so I would like more of a relaxing experience. I just ask this in general of the Frankfurt area places, not having been to an FKK for 8 years, which one has the best facilities and food these days. I recall Oase being nice with a nice whirlpool and pool and grill but that was 8 years ago. Any of them rent rooms for the night?
Not for me, better to do for Christmas and Sylvester new year, but Sylvester party at Globe, I think also Freubad North Bern, Aca Gold, Aca Velbert also used to, Sharks, Oase, but not best time to get best girls, except maybe early in afternoon at Globe. Wish for great girls, only 1 would even be enough and even best for me, on next year.
LaBambaBoy
01-18-20, 03:37
Really good trip. As always I was left with some regrets, mostly girls I had missed connections with. It's an FKK thing.
Some truly amazing high points, especially Tanya (Oase), Daniella (Oase), Elise (Sharks), Monica (Sharks), and the duo of Corrine and Enya (Sharks). I feel I am definitely far better at maneuvering than I used to be. Not a single bad session, which is always nice.
Oase really conflicts me, with amazing sessions, good food and the great relax room, but the main room is a smoky mess with uncomfortable couches and music that is far too loud. I can't imagine a Friday / Saturday night there.
Sharks remains a sentimental favorite, with the worst session still very good, and some amazing one night runs. But why must it always be so hot in Sharks? Those rooms upstairs were ovens. And could we get a change in the food, like, sometime? Any change at all?
Rom was worth the visit, though the language barrier was real (same as Bahama last year). Small clubs are best for tourists in short doses I think. I do like that the smaller clubs have a lot more variety in ethnicity, body style, etc.
I did not make it to Finca, work did not permit the travel time. This was sad because Finca was so good last year. Oh well.
Memories, I made many of them. The view of Sorina as I ate her out for 45 minutes. Lusty, earthy, bold Eira. Marissa chasing me across the bed by tickling me, then slowly putting my cock in her mouth. Tanya's incredible smile and ridiculous body, and her earth shattering orgasm. Daniella's beautiful eyes, inches from mine, as we kissed and I came inside her. Elise's raw sexuality, and the line of her back as she looked back in reverse cowgirl and her hips drained me dry. Amazing Monica, her beautiful face looking back at me as we finished a long lovely session in doggie. And the sensory overload of beautiful Corrine grinding on my face while sexy Enya gave me an amazing blowjob. Treasured life experiences all, and I will always wish those ladies well.
So it's goodbye and thank you to FKK land, god's play land for guys. I still love Romanian girls unreservedly. I hope I get to go again sometime!
Thanks to all the many posters who gave advice along the way. Lanthano, Sirioja, KK, too many to mention. Thanks so much!
See posts in Sharks, Rom and Oase threads for more info.
No, they don't rent rooms. But hotels are never far away in the Frankfurt area. Check out Palace, Mainhattan and Sharks.
I'm going to be in Frankfurt for 3-4 days in early March. I've been in Thailand for the past 7 months and am a bit f* out being an old man, so I would like more of a relaxing experience. I just ask this in general of the Frankfurt area places, not having been to an FKK for 8 years, which one has the best facilities and food these days. I recall Oase being nice with a nice whirlpool and pool and grill but that was 8 years ago. Any of them rent rooms for the night?
I'm going to be in Frankfurt for 3-4 days in early March. I've been in Thailand for the past 7 months and am a bit f* out being an old man, so I would like more of a relaxing experience. I just ask this in general of the Frankfurt area places, not having been to an FKK for 8 years, which one has the best facilities and food these days. I recall Oase being nice with a nice whirlpool and pool and grill but that was 8 years ago. Any of them rent rooms for the night?You can sleep at World for 100, or in relax room at Oase.
Really good trip.
See posts in Sharks, Rom and Oase threads for more info.Thank you for your detailed posts. I am going in a couple weeks and this is so helpful in planning my trip and FKK choices.
Dow is down 400 points due to it. CDC suggested today to stop or postpone trips to China. Are the FKK girls now avoiding customers from China / Asia due to fear of Coronavirus? Are the clubs stopping customers from China / Asia to enter?I believe most people overreact to the new coronavirus. It is still very safe in Europe, especially in Germany. So far there is only 1 case in Germany closed to border to France. No case around Frankfurt area.
On the other hand, especially in Sharks, since there are large number of customers coming from Asian or France, if unfortunately a coronavirus carrier happens to visit Sharks, then all girls would be infected within a few days. I believe the management of club should take some safety precautions to prevent such potential catastrophe.
DiverOyster
01-29-20, 04:26
I believe most people overreact to the new coronavirus. It is still very safe in Europe, especially in Germany. So far there is only 1 case in Germany closed to border to France. No case around Frankfurt area.
On the other hand, especially in Sharks, since there are large number of customers coming from Asian or France, if unfortunately a coronavirus carrier happens to visit Sharks, then all girls would be infected within a few days. I believe the management of club should take some safety precautions to prevent such potential catastrophe.The fear of the Corona virus has been overblown. So far it only has affected about 5,000 people and killed about 100.
To put things in perspectives, the seasonal flu, also an airborne contagious disease, affects and kills a much bigger population worldwide, including the population in the 4 FKK host countries (DE, CH, Austria, and NL) during the flu season of 2019-2020. About 1/2 million people world-wide die annually from the seasonal flu.
In the USA alone, according to the estimates of the US Government agency Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), from October 1, 2019, through January 18,2020, there have been:
15,000,000 - 21,000,000 flu illnesses;.
7,000,000 - 10,000,000 flu medical visits;.
140,000 - 250,000 flu hospitalizations;.
8,200 - 20,000 flu deaths.
Please see the statistics in the link below.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm?fbclid=IwAR2afHGHKQ1xh8Zs0GEqjLfCQsYgWJHCPW3cfaV2Y5rlug_rsG_Zrw7GR3c
I have been visiting fkks for years during the flu season (generally from about October through about April). Even with the widespread prevalence of the contagious flu virus during the flu season, I have never become sick from DFK the FKK girls, and DFK and DATY are my usual modus operandi. I understand that there is a risk of catching the flu virus from DFK the girls, but this is a risk I am willing to take to enjoy my pleasure.
To me, the real health risk of visiting fkks is the second-hand smoke. I wish all fkks would have the non-smoking policy like Babylon Ellsdorf.
Will certain Asian hunters change their business model? ;-)Will they ask ID to Asians? For Chinese, compare to Koreans or Japanese or born in other countries. If one with virus goes with a girl and this girl goes with other guys and some go in other clubs. FKK land is great playfield to spread very fast a virus. GT even made Chinese new year party, real virus meeting. Better to be in good health to be able to resist.
The fear of the Corona virus has been overblown. So far it only has affected about 5,000 people and killed about 100.
To put things in perspectives, the seasonal flu, also an airborne contagious disease, affects and kills a much bigger population worldwide, including the population in the 4 FKK host countries (DE, CH, Austria, and NL) during the flu season of 2019-2020. About 1/2 million people world-wide die annually from the seasonal flu.
In the USA alone, according to the estimates of the US Government agency Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), from October 1, 2019, through January 18,2020, there have been:
15,000,000 - 21,000,000 flu illnesses;.
7,000,000 - 10,000,000 flu medical visits;.
140,000 - 250,000 flu hospitalizations;..You didn't mention that most of the deaths from common flu are due to either not taking flu shots or not receiving treatment even when there's lots of vaccines and good treatment is available. Those are simply the cases of ignorance or access to treatment. On the other hand, this Coronavirus doesn't have any vaccine or real treatment, yet; and researchers and scientists are saying it could take years to develop a vaccine or an effective treatment besides quarantines. CDC or who are no joking when they are advising against all non-essential travels to China now. Even Chinease government has quarantined 50 Million of their own people. 50 million people quarantined! Imagine that when the whole of Germany has only 80 million population! Asian customers may not like themselves banned from FKKs temporarily, but that probably is the safest approach for everyone including WGs, customers and club employees, and even the surrounding neighborhoods. Maybe the local or German government need to step in, like they did with the 2017 law, if clubs don't do self regulations for it's workers' and customers' safety.
CNBC: Coronavirus outbreak tops 6,000 cases in China, exceeding SARS epidemic (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-latest-updates.html).
Will they ask ID to Asians? For Chinese, compare to Koreans or Japanese or born in other countries. If one with virus goes with a girl and this girl goes with other guys and some go in other clubs. FKK land is great playfield to spread very fast a virus. GT even made Chinese new year party, real virus meeting. Better to be in good health to be able to resist.It is not wise to ban Asians tourists in Sharks. And majority Asian customers in Sharks actually come from United States.
Now there are more and more cases in France. Should clubs ban Frenchmen to go into club?
Any customers or girls, no matter the race, could be a coronavirus carrier.
So the safest way is to temporarily stop visiting FKK club in the next few weeks until the epidemic subsides.
Girls could go back to Romania now for their safety.
It is not wise to ban Asians tourists in Sharks. And majority Asian customers in Sharks actually come from United States.
Now there are more and more cases in France. Should clubs ban Frenchmen to go into club?
Any customers or girls, no matter the race, could be a coronavirus carrier.
So the safest way is to temporarily stop visiting FKK club in the next few weeks until the epidemic subsides.
Girls could go back to Romania now for their safety.There are only 5 reported cases and 0 deaths so far in France, as opposed to 7801 reported cases and 170 deaths in China. Majority of the reported cases are in Asia so far. France would have had zero cases if they had taken the precaution of banning people from China / Asia in time. Same goes for FKKs, before people in FKKs start getting infected. There are reasons that even the Chinease government has quarantined more than 50 million people (in perspective, the whole Germany populations 83 million). The Asian habit of eating anything that moves (snakes, bats, cockroaches, frogs. The list goes on) alive started this epidemic, and the utter denial and ignorance to instructions from health experts about quarantining those Asian people keeps spreading it. Unless FKKs can check for the virus (which is impossible), they should check ID / passports and temporarily ban people coming from Asia, for the safety of rest of the people and their business, until a vaccine or a real treatment is available.
Banning Asians customers would not solve the issue.
In reality, all coronavirus patients are Germans in Germany. If Sharks or other clubs ban innocent Asians customers, they choose wrong targets. Without Asians customers, most girls would lost 30%-80% income!! And they still have risk to get infection because locals would be virus carriers.
The best way to avoid virus is to stay at home, and all FKK clubs would temporarily shutdown for 2 weeks. Otherwise, if there is even one girl infected, the whole FKK industry would be ruined.
There are only 5 reported cases and 0 deaths so far in France, as opposed to 7801 reported cases and 170 deaths in China. Majority of the reported cases are in Asia so far. France would have had zero cases if they had taken the precaution of banning people from China / Asia in time. Same goes for FKKs, before people in FKKs start getting infected. There are reasons that even the Chinease government has quarantined more than 50 million people (in perspective, the whole Germany populations 83 million). The Asian habit of eating anything that moves (snakes, bats, cockroaches, frogs. The list goes on) alive started this epidemic, and the utter denial and ignorance to instructions from health experts about quarantining those Asian people keeps spreading it. Unless FKKs can check for the virus (which is impossible), they should check ID / passports and temporarily ban people coming from Asia, for the safety of rest of the people and their business, until a vaccine or a real treatment is available.
Banning Asians customers would not solve the issue.
In reality, all coronavirus patients are Germans in Germany. If Sharks or other clubs ban innocent Asians customers, they choose wrong targets. Without Asians customers, most girls would lost 30%-80% income!! And they still have risk to get infection because locals would be virus carriers.
The best way to avoid virus is to stay at home, and all FKK clubs would temporarily shutdown for 2 weeks. Otherwise, if there is even one girl infected, the whole FKK industry would be ruined.Banning Asians customers would not solve the issue, yes, but the chances of getting coronavirus will reduce for 99.99%.
And you said ((Without Asians customers, most girls would lost 30%-80% income)) and then you suggest ((everyone to stay home and FKK clubs would temporarily shutdown for 2 weeks)).
Didn't get it? You prefer everyone to stay home over only Asians! And you prefer girls to lose all income over losing 30% of their income? Dosent make sense to me.
The Critic
01-31-20, 06:46
The fear of the Corona virus has been overblown. So far it only has affected about 5,000 people and killed about 100.Who declares the new coronavirus outbreak a Public Health Emergency of International Concern.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51318246
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-01-31-20-intl-hnk/index.html
Overblown. You spoke too soon!
Banning Asians customers would not solve the issue, yes, but the chances of getting coronavirus will reduce for 99.99%.
And you said ((Without Asians customers, most girls would lost 30%-80% income)) and then you suggest ((everyone to stay home and FKK clubs would temporarily shutdown for 2 weeks)).
Didn't get it? You prefer everyone to stay home over only Asians! And you prefer girls to lose all income over losing 30% of their income? Dosent make sense to me.At the moment, problem is only about China which don't give truth, and only very few elsewhere, so Japan and Korea are not bigger risk than France or Germany. Of course if infected Chinese infected girls, then could become a problem.
First, I am not a Chinese citizen, and I have not been to China for many years.
But I would never like to hear any racism talk.
In fact, currently all cases in Europe are not Chinese.
If "infected Chinese infected girls could become a problem", then is it a problem if a infected Frenchman infected girls?
As we know, there are at least 5 cases in France now, no offense, they are all French.
At the moment, problem is only about China which don't give truth, and only very few elsewhere, so Japan and Korea are not bigger risk than France or Germany. Of course if infected Chinese infected girls, then could become a problem.
First, I am not a Chinese citizen, and I have not been to China for many years.
But I would never like to hear any racism talk.
In fact, currently all cases in Europe are not Chinese.
If "infected Chinese infected girls could become a problem", then is it a problem if a infected Frenchman infected girls?
As we know, there are at least 5 cases in France now, no offense, they are all French.I think some of us are getting too sensitive about racism, forgetting where it all started and more importantly how and why it started. If some groups of people have a generally risky or unhealthy behavior, pointing that out or trying to avoid those consequences is not racism, it's being progressive and intelligent. I doubt we can say all these Governments are all doing racism: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51338899.
First, I am not a Chinese citizen, and I have not been to China for many years.
But I would never like to hear any racism talk.
In fact, currently all cases in Europe are not Chinese.
If "infected Chinese infected girls could become a problem", then is it a problem if a infected Frenchman infected girls?
As we know, there are at least 5 cases in France now, no offense, they are all French.Nothing about racism, but we know China lie about this virus figures, like Western Europeans don't trust Trump or Putin or Chinese or North Korean information. But I m more afraid of HIV than of a virus even some virus can kill some organs. I m not the one to write to ban Asians and I don't think so, even I don't like those full of jealousy, bullshiting specialists with girls, but also some French, Germans and US for this.
Nothing about racism, but we know China lie about this virus figures, like Western Europeans don't trust Trump or Putin or Chinese or North Korean information. But I m more afraid of HIV than of a virus even some virus can kill some organs. I m not the one to write to ban Asians and I don't think so, even I don't like those full of jealousy, bullshiting specialists with girls, but also some French, Germans and US for this.There could be more than 75,000 cases of coronavirus in China, researchers say. Cases doubling every day. In some places in China, only one person is allowed to go out of home once every other day to grocery etc, to control spreading. Hope we don't talk about Racism anymore, rather do the right thing to contain this deadly virus that so far has no vaccine or treatment yet.
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-01-31-20-intl-hnk/index.html
First big thanks to all those members who took time to post reports to help me on my trips, and to those who answered my messages with helpful info.
Summary: I started by driving to Hawaii in Ingolstadt, the next night over to Coli in Augsburg, trained over to Frankfurt for 2 nights, then up to Cologne and finally finished in Berlin (finished is the right word). I spent two nights in Artemis because. Well there aren't any other FKKs in Berlin and this was an FKK to the Max trip.
I know I'll receive a lot of flack for my opinions on the clubs, but basically, Artemis had the most girls in one spot and the most diverse body types of any club I went to. Tiny Colloseum had the least choice. Sharks and Palace inbetween. As so many people say, don't go for the food, but still I managed to eat a few dinners, and had a couple real legit massages and one really nice night of Sauna in Samya.
I thought Samya needed a remodel the most! The rooms looked dingy like old ski lodge rooms, beaten up and badly lit. So I realize I don't have the experience that a lot of you have with the NRW clubs, but.
In spite of the fact that Artemis was the most expensive and the girls want to charge for every little thing (thank goodness I didn't fart, I'd have to pay an additional fart charge! It really was the easiest to reach, S bahn and then around the corner 4 minutes. Largest space, most diverse girls. The only club I went to with more than 1 African / Caribbean girl at a time working a shift. And a nice shift change right in the early evening where the two shifts overlap. Also best Cappucino! And a pretty damn good DJ.
OK. Forums will have my reports as I get them out. And as you guys can't stop talking about China, and the virus. Saw Chinese men in several of the clubs, no one seemed to care.
Hello,
I've been reading a lot in the forum regarding a planned trip to Germany in the spring. Being new to the German culture when it comes to open sex, it can be a bit overwhelming. Thanks to Steve and tintin (and others) for their info so far. Reading this forum has me like a kid in a candy shop, the more I see, the more I want-- LOL. Most of my research has been on FKKs, but I've started to stumble across terms like Partytreffs and AO CLubs. From what I gather, Partytreffs seem to come in 2 flavors. One is like a swingers club. The other is more like a step down from an FKK in that you pay one fee for as much fun as you can have but the girls tend to be of lesser quality. Can someone help me out with the difference? Also, what about AO Clubs? These seem to be brothels that allow BBFS. Is that still true? I heard that German laws changed, yet I've read some reports about Club Laluna which seem interesting. Again, thanks for any info. I'm looking to get the full experience. I'm interested in anything and everything related to a full satisfying sex vacation-- girls, orgies, gang-bangs, even being in a video.
Neurosynth
02-06-20, 01:18
... Also, what about AO Clubs? These seem to be brothels that allow BBFS. Is that still true? I heard that German laws changed, yet I've read some reports about Club Laluna which seem interesting. Again, thanks for any info. I'm looking to get the full experience. I'm interested in anything and everything related to a full satisfying sex vacation-- girls, orgies, gang-bangs, even being in a video.AO is, for the most part, still available where it was once available before the change in the law. It is now, however, seldom practiced outside of the private rooms, and there may be a small up-charge. And some posters on various boards will ridicule those who post about it on various boards. Thankfully there's been less of that here than on some other boards. The law doesn't penalize sex workers, just their customers. It's basically unenforcible, but it has caused some sex workers and clients to avoid BBFS.
AO sex with very average looks fucked AO 10 times per day by everybody is much riskier than Chinese virus for me. I prefer not to have to take 15 pills per day which will kill organs and strength, to try just to survive like a zombie. But better to ask doctors about risks. Also much more enjoyable with a more exclusive pretty girl who trust You. Despite sex with condom written everywhere, but I really wonder how well known AO clubs can keep on. Are laws not to be respected in Germany?
I don t know what polizei looked for at GT yesterday, where I think much more than 2 grammes, but some clients were also controlled. I was never controlled and even had great times with my very free at these times girl who was happy I stayed when others ran away, while controls at LR on 2017.
Hi all,
I'm visiting Dusseldorf area for business and it seems I have a full day off. What would be the ideal FKK for a first timer to spend a day, maybe do some paper work on the side and enjoy the atmosphere.
I'll have a car available.
Thanks!
Hi all,
I'm visiting Dusseldorf area for business and it seems I have a full day off. What would be the ideal FKK for a first timer to spend a day, maybe do some paper work on the side and enjoy the atmosphere.
I'll have a car available.
Thanks!For pornstars and plastic dolls look, GT 50 kms west Dusseldorf. For fresh natural beauties, from Thursday to Sunday after 7 pm, Samya Koln, about 45 mn from Dusseldorf. Also Acapulco Velbert for few pretty.
For pornstars and plastic dolls look, GT 50 kms west Dusseldorf. For fresh natural beauties, from Thursday to Sunday after 7 pm, Samya Koln, about 45 mn from Dusseldorf. Also Acapulco Velbert for few pretty.Thanks a lot! Will look into these.
Selection of the clubs is quite large and would hate to be disappointed!
Thanks a lot! Will look into these.
Selection of the clubs is quite large and would hate to be disappointed!We don't all have same tastes. I prefer natural beauties looking as close as possible to normal life women = with no silicon nor acid lips nor too many tattoos. Better illusion for me than prostitute written on face.
For fans, Jessika silicon World who became Niki Globe is now at sauna Venus Hamminkeln, I don't understand all. Small Bulgarian Mina moved from Samya to Finca.
We don't all have same tastes. I prefer natural beauties looking as close as possible to normal life women = with no silicon nor acid lips nor too many tattoos. Better illusion for me than prostitute written on face.
For fans, Jessika silicon World who became Niki Globe is now at sauna Venus Hamminkeln, I don't understand all. Small Bulgarian Mina moved from Samya to Finca.I prefer both depending the situation.
I'm looking for the cleanliness, condition and overall atmosphere of the club.
For fans, Jessika silicon World who became Niki Globe is now at sauna Venus Hamminkeln, I don't understand all.Is this person the same as Jessica silicone from sharks Sirioja?
I prefer both depending the situation.
I'm looking for the cleanliness, condition and overall atmosphere of the club.At GT Bruggen West Dusseldorf, poor girls don't even have shower to wash, only 1 bidet, so they do as they can, on bidet, in toilets, only very few use shower in men lockers or close to sauna at the other side from their lockers. Fortunately never had hygiene problem with my regular girls, but experienced some German pussies smelling and tasting more toilets than soap. At least, nature feeling. When they make juice, then more sweet, less bitter and smelly.
Is this person the same as Jessica silicone from sharks Sirioja?Chestnut with glasses, in her 30's. She was a star at World on 2014/2015. Jessika Sharks was blond?
SpermBirds
02-11-20, 18:41
Around Dusseldorf are quite a few options. If hygiene is important you can't go wrong in GT or LR because all the rooms are cleaned immediately after each session, bar area, dressing room, everywhere is cleaning staff. In Samya that's a bit different to say the least.
[Deleted by Admin]. Girls do have several bidets, can shower if they wish (but most girls don't shower often pro day like in every club for that matter, imagine what it does to their skin if they shower 10 times pro day). Didn't run into girls with hygiene problems myself but maybe there are some exceptions as Sirioja indicates, can be.
Overall atmosphere in most clubs is OK, Samya can become veryyyy loud from 21 h till the end, take earplugs.
Citizen Kane
02-11-20, 21:05
Is this person the same as Jessica silicone from sharks Sirioja?No. She was called Madi at Sharks.
No. She was called Madi at Sharks.I confirm, when she worked few time at Sharks, then moved to Globe as Miky, now at club Venus, quite incredible after several years at Globe.
Around Dusseldorf are quite a few options. If hygiene is important you can't go wrong in GT or LR because all the rooms are cleaned immediately after each session, bar area, dressing room, everywhere is cleaning staff. In Samya that's a bit different to say the least.
Girls do have several bidets, can shower if they wish (but most girls don't shower often pro day like in every club for that matter, imagine what it does to their skin if they shower 10 times pro day). Didn't run into girls with hygiene problems myself but maybe there are some exceptions as Sirioja indicates, can be.
Overall atmosphere in most clubs is OK, Samya can become veryyyy loud from 21 h till the end, take earplugs.Cleaning room is less important for me, and they just put in trash in room which are often full, than girls really cleaning themselves. But how could they do at GT with only 1 bidet close to girls lockers. When GT want to play high level, couldn't they build, like plastic cabins which are very hygienic and easy to build, 1 or 2 showers for respect for girls and clients. Only very few go to shower close to sauna or in guys lockers between rooms. If I don't agree for 95% silicon, but too many, but not far from 90% won't take any shower between rooms, only showering when they finish, only washing pussy but not more between rooms. At LR, shower upstairs, but many only use bidet behind the bar, faster. I agree they can't take 10 shower per day, but better to wash better with shower. Not what I call high level for hygiene, for my standard. German girls are not all on top for hygiene.
... German girls are not all on top for hygiene.German girls, Romanian, Bulgarian, US girls. I wouldn't advise any girl / man to wash genitals 10 or 15 times a day. Okay if you just use water.
Imagine rubbing in shower gel or soap each time.
Horrific!
German girls, Romanian, Bulgarian, US girls. I wouldn't advise any girl / man to wash genitals 10 or 15 times a day. Okay if you just use water.
Imagine rubbing in shower gel or soap each time.
Horrific!Just better, for taste and smell, to wash after going to toilets. Some girls don't. Of course, you can only experience if you DATY. Good point is when they make wet, then less toilets smell and taste, but can taste smoke in juice.
BrahmaPoutre
02-12-20, 21:07
Cleaning room is less important for me, and they just put in trash in room which are often full, than girls really cleaning themselves. But how could they do at GT with only 1 bidet close to girls lockers. When GT want to play high level, couldn't they build, like plastic cabins which are very hygienic and easy to build, 1 or 2 showers for respect for girls and clients. Only very few go to shower close to sauna or in guys lockers between rooms. If I don't agree for 95% silicon, but too many, but not far from 90% won't take any shower between rooms, only showering when they finish, only washing pussy but not more between rooms. At LR, shower upstairs, but many only use bidet behind the bar, faster. I agree they can't take 10 shower per day, but better to wash better with shower. Not what I call high level for hygiene, for my standard. German girls are not all on top for hygiene.It seems only 1 bidet for girls did not bother you very much after 300 visits in GT as you claimed.
It seems only 1 bidet for girls did not bother you very much after 300 visits in GT as you claimed.But this is not what I read, this is real fact, girls don t have shower in their lockers to wash between rooms, from their start to when they finish, most won t take any shower, only bidet washing or in toilets in front of room 9 close to desk, nobody can say I m a faker when many fakers around, too many guys and girls know me, not what I call high level for hygiene for GT. Fortunately, I m used to go with the highest level girls and they are usually quite clean, but experienced some very natural toilets taste and smell, but have to try DATY for this.
About silicon, I wrote I don t agree for 95% , but too many silicons and tattooed for me at GT, when I like girls who look like normal life women, not pornstars nor with written prostitute on face. I left so many times GT without going to room.
SpermBirds
02-13-20, 12:12
Oh man, once again to reply to the recurrent false info regarding the so called only 1 Bidet: there are several bidets in the ladies room in GT! Yes, there is no shower there but 6 showers if they wish to take one (and lots of girls do a few times pro day but not every time for obvious reasons) there but anyone who knows about hygiene or claims to love freedom sooooo much knows that one should not take 10 showers, or should not take pride in recommending girls to go to Globe because that club allows the least amount of freedom of any club I know in Europe! Dance like a monkey to their song whenever, not allowed to work on their preferred days sometimes because the "amount of girls" is what it is and I could go on with an enormous list of stuff. Just an indication of the so called freedom for Girls which work on 31/12 in some of the smaller "sister-clubs", they have to show up there and the little club closes at 8, they are driven to Globe to get the number of girls a bbit higher and have to work there, GREAT Freedom, just a joke! So anyone which uses his so called freedom propaganda in almost any post simply doesn't check reality. Just as the fact that he continuously mentioned that he was I don't know how many hundreds of times in GT and / or LR but somehow since a few weeks / months those clubs became terrible. Oh well, just ridiculous if you know what is going on.
Chestnut with glasses, in her 30's. She was a star at World on 2014/2015. Jessika Sharks was blond?Ah OK. I was thinking of the buxom Jessica from Moldova with black hair. Pity.
ExpatLover
02-14-20, 20:10
Just better, for taste and smell, to wash after going to toilets. Some girls don't. Of course, you can only experience if you DATY. Good point is when they make wet, then less toilets smell and taste, but can taste smoke in juice.You are a real poet.
Ah OK. I was thinking of the buxom Jessica from Moldova with black hair. Pity.As one wrote, Jessika World became Madi Sharks and so many on German forums thought Madi World moved to Sharks when she didn't want to drive more than 10 kms, even to get better business at this time at Sharks compare to World. After Sharks, this Jessika worked for years at Globe as Miky and now at Venus, not the AO.
It seems only 1 bidet for girls did not bother you very much after 300 visits in GT as you claimed.Is that what is called Eau De Toilette?
Oh man, once again to reply to the recurrent false info regarding the so called only 1 Bidet: there are several bidets in the ladies room in GT! Yes, there is no shower there but 6 showers if they wish to take one (and lots of girls do a few times pro day but not every time for obvious reasons) there but anyone who knows about hygiene or claims to love freedom sooooo much knows that one should not take 10 showers, or should not take pride in recommending girls to go to Globe because that club allows the least amount of freedom of any club I know in Europe! Dance like a monkey to their song whenever, not allowed to work on their preferred days sometimes because the "amount of girls" is what it is and I could go on with an enormous list of stuff. Just an indication of the so called freedom for Girls which work on 31/12 in some of the smaller "sister-clubs", they have to show up there and the little club closes at 8, they are driven to Globe to get the number of girls a bbit higher and have to work there, GREAT Freedom, just a joke! So anyone which uses his so called freedom propaganda in almost any post simply doesn't check reality. Just as the fact that he continuously mentioned that he was I don't know how many hundreds of times in GT and / or LR but somehow since a few weeks / months those clubs became terrible. Oh well, just ridiculous if you know what is going on.GT girls don't have private showers in their lockers, they must be very flexible to wash tits in bidets, even several. Everybody can see some going to make cat washing in toilets close to desk in front of room 9 . I m pretty sure at least 3 girls on 4 don't take any shower between rooms, they arrived washed and take shower close to sauna when they finish. Everybody can see this, when they come back in lounge 5 mn after being paid by previous client. High level club. Fortunately, GT regulars are not demanding for looks and else, free beer are more important.
Hi all,
I'm going to be traveling in Germany later this month for business, between Frankfurt and Stuttgart. My time is limited so I can try a max of one or two FKKs so I'm trying to make sure I hit up the right place (s) for me. Two questions I'd love input on:
1. Where in the Hesse and Baden-Wrttemberg FKKs nowadays do you find girls with the prettiest faces? Looks from the forums like the answer has shifted over time, although the reviews of Oase and Sharks seem to stand out. I have a bit of a thing for pale girls with gorgeous faces. Makeup, even lots of makeup, is great but not the bronzed / contoured look. I don't care as much about body type.
2. I have a serious fetish for pigtails (bunches for you UK gents) and hair buns and want to spend some time indulging this. Would a typical girl at an FKK be willing to put her hair into pigtails or a bun if we go into a room together? Just not sure of the logistics or etiquette here as presumably she's naked and would have to retrieve some hair ties and a brush. Do I need to bring a pack of hair ties to hand out if I'm going to request this? Am I better off going to a bordell like Paradise or an eros center for this?
Apologies if these have been answered already. Have learned a lot from the forums here but nothing that speaks directly to these. Thanks in advance for any tips!
Banana Boi
03-02-20, 00:18
Have any new FKK clubs opened up in Frankfurt or NRW in the past year and a bit? I'm not talking about rebranding an old club like Penelope moving to Castrop-Rauxel. Looking for new clubs I may have never visited.
Have any new FKK clubs opened up in Frankfurt or NRW in the past year and a bit? I'm not talking about rebranding an old club like Penelope moving to Castrop-Rauxel. Looking for new clubs I may have never visited.Maybe one soon close to World which is still the most beautiful club, great with snow. Maybe one day, YY again. Wish for.
If married or with pregnant girlfriend or with a small baby, or with a old mother, better to avoid risk for them. Virus is in Germany like in whole Western Europe, not only in north Italia.
GuyBrusg1957
03-10-20, 23:26
I found this once but I can't find it. There was a German site with either a pink or purple color scheme that published a adult oriented magazine with interviews and ads from high end escorts.
Does anyone know what I'm referring too? I'the like to find it again.
GuyBrusg1957
03-10-20, 23:40
Are there just not many escort or private houses in Germany? I'm kind of confused why the escort options from searching online are so limited.
Delta Indigo
03-11-20, 00:26
Maybe one soon close to World which is still the most beautiful club, great with snow. Maybe one day, YY again. Wish for.Will there be a new club near world?
Hi all,
I'm going to be traveling in Germany later this month for business, between Frankfurt and Stuttgart. My time is limited so I can try a max of one or two FKKs so I'm trying to make sure I hit up the right place (s) for me. Two questions I'd love input on:
1. Where in the Hesse and Baden-Wrttemberg FKKs nowadays do you find girls with the prettiest faces? Looks from the forums like the answer has shifted over time, although the reviews of Oase and Sharks seem to stand out. I have a bit of a thing for pale girls with gorgeous faces. Makeup, even lots of makeup, is great but not the bronzed / contoured look. I don't care as much about body type.
2. I have a serious fetish for pigtails (bunches for you UK gents) and hair buns and want to spend some time indulging this. Would a typical girl at an FKK be willing to put her hair into pigtails or a bun if we go into a room together? Just not sure of the logistics or etiquette here as presumably she's naked and would have to retrieve some hair ties and a brush. Do I need to bring a pack of hair ties to hand out if I'm going to request this? Am I better off going to a bordell like Paradise or an eros center for this?
Apologies if these have been answered already. Have learned a lot from the forums here but nothing that speaks directly to these. Thanks in advance for any tips!There is a seriously amazing girl in the Ingolstadt area (between Nurenburg and Munich) that had her hair in Heidi like braids? Does that qualify. Otherwise. Put her hair in pigtails? Takes what? 60 seconds unless you mean a fancy as arrangement. I think if you ask, at worst she'll want 10 Euros extra haha. I am assuming you mean just to look at, not to use in any sexual act? (Not judging, just asking).
Will there be a new club near world?One is preparing since long time.
As one wrote, Jessika World became Madi Sharks and so many on German forums thought Madi World moved to Sharks when she didn't want to drive more than 10 kms, even to get better business at this time at Sharks compare to World. After Sharks, this Jessika worked for years at Globe as Miky and now at Venus, not the AO.Is she still at Venus in Hamminkeln?
PunterWanderer
03-11-20, 23:23
Are there just not many escort or private houses in Germany? I'm kind of confused why the escort options from searching online are so limited.Well, actually the incall scene is pretty much active in Germany. It's overshadowed - maybe - by the FKKs but you have plenty of choice. Also, I personally find that Germany has competitive rates in comparison with France, UK and basically all the neighborough countries.
If you take a look at the general info forums and in the other threads of Germany you will find a lot of tips.
Is she still at Venus in Hamminkeln?I didn't return because no look seen for me.
ExpatLover
03-12-20, 08:41
Are there just not many escort or private houses in Germany? I'm kind of confused why the escort options from searching online are so limited.I have a long escort experience of escort in Germany, if you are not so familiar it is better to start with agencies, if you are experienced go on Kaufmich but small advice make first a appointment in the lobby of the hotel, if they have a apartment they are pro and obviously overfucked like the FKK girls, a no go for me.
Situation is too dynamic to speculate. Italians were walking around relatively carefree two weeks ago and now complete lockdown. I have a friend in one of the most infected towns in Italy, and I was told that hardly anyone is in the streets. Only supermarkets and pharmacies remain open. To ensure people do not come into close contact, only ten people are allowed in the supermarket at any given time, which creates a backlog of people waiting in the streets.
Nightclubs are closing in Germany:
https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/thema/2020/coronavirus/beitraege/corona-coronavirus-berghain-berlin-covid-19.html
It would be a nightmare to come to Germany, and find that everything is closed: FKKs, restaurants, tourist spots.
Situation is too dynamic to speculate. Italians were walking around relatively carefree two weeks ago and now complete lockdown. I have a friend in one of the most infected towns in Italy, and I was told that hardly anyone is in the streets. Only supermarkets and pharmacies remain open. To ensure people do not come into close contact, only ten people are allowed in the supermarket at any given time, which creates a backlog of people waiting in the streets.
Nightclubs are closing in Germany:
https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/thema/2020/coronavirus/beitraege/corona-coronavirus-berghain-berlin-covid-19.html
It would be a nightmare to come to Germany, and find that everything is closed: FKKs, restaurants, tourist spots.Even the US is rapidly shutting down. Disney parks, cruises, flights, colleges and universities, movies, sporting events.
Traffic is rapidly dwindling to nothing in most places. My friends in NYC said buses and trains were ghost like.
It would be a nightmare to come to Germany, and find that everything is closed: FKKs, restaurants, tourist spots.This is the fear. I'm due to land April for almost 3 weeks. Work leave has been organised, flights, everything. I'm not concerned about Corona in the least, healthy and virile in peak physical condition. And if the ratios are so overwhelmingly female over male even better.
But if it tips over to the point where they close them down. The horror.
Even the US is rapidly shutting down. Disney parks, cruises, flights, colleges and universities, movies, sporting events.
Traffic is rapidly dwindling to nothing in most places. My friends in NYC said buses and trains were ghost like.I live in NYC. Took the Subway yesterday 6 times including during rush hour and today 4 times starting around 1 pm. It's a bit less crowded but not even close to ghost like. Plenty of people on the streets and in bars etc. Going for walk tonight to a Gay / lesbian bar in the heart of Manhattan a couple miles away with a good Bi lady friend. I expect to pass plenty of nightlife people. I think your friend is not giving you very accurate info about NYC.
Along with schools, concerts, etc. , at least in some areas all brothels, etc. Are closing.
Citizen Kane
03-14-20, 10:39
Along with schools, concerts, etc. , at least in some areas all brothels, etc. Are closing.You know it's bad when the brothels close.
You know it's bad when the brothels close.Most unfortunate thing has happened. The deaths from the virus will not be the most scariest thing but the poverty and lack of earning power to the masses the virus brings. But where there is uncertainty, there will be opportunity also.
I live in NYC. Took the Subway yesterday 6 times including during rush hour and today 4 times starting around 1 pm. It's a bit less crowded but not even close to ghost like. Plenty of people on the streets and in bars etc. Going for walk tonight to a Gay / lesbian bar in the heart of Manhattan a couple miles away with a good Bi lady friend. I expect to pass plenty of nightlife people. I think your friend is not giving you very accurate info about NYC.Exactly! Unfortunately, this is how some people start the rumor mills and mass hysteria, based on their personal bias and chances of benefiting. Kinda like main stream media these days.
I live in NYC. Took the Subway yesterday 6 times including during rush hour and today 4 times starting around 1 pm. It's a bit less crowded but not even close to ghost like. Plenty of people on the streets and in bars etc. Going for walk tonight to a Gay / lesbian bar in the heart of Manhattan a couple miles away with a good Bi lady friend. I expect to pass plenty of nightlife people. I think your friend is not giving you very accurate info about NYC.If everything is still the same, this is a sign of utter stupidity and definitely nothing to brag about. Even the mentally retarded current POTUS has recognized the situation as serious by calling a national emergency.
We have an office in NYC and I heard what I heard from my co workers who take a bus into the city Weewauken. Those buses were empty as they told me. In our office, less than 5% showed up, rest worked from home. Notaworry reported what he saw, there are plenty of other reports from NYC, the most populated city in the nation. My condolences to the Italians so sick from this disease with the highest active infection rate and blocked from everywhere in EU.
I live in NYC. Took the Subway yesterday 6 times including during rush hour and today 4 times starting around 1 pm. It's a bit less crowded but not even close to ghost like. Plenty of people on the streets and in bars etc. Going for walk tonight to a Gay / lesbian bar in the heart of Manhattan a couple miles away with a good Bi lady friend. I expect to pass plenty of nightlife people. I think your friend is not giving you very accurate info about NYC.I appreciate that your observations are your observations but other people have slightly different take on this. My co worker takes a bus from Weewauken to mid town and another comes from Scarsdale. In our NYC office, less than 10% showed up even on Wednesday. Since then we went totally wFH.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/restaurants-starving-as-diners-disappear-during-coronavirus-crisis/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mta-says-reduced-subway-service-is-possible-under-coronavirus-11584033258
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/ghost-town-nyc-empties-out-in-face-of-coronavirus/2324986/
ExpatLover
03-15-20, 04:31
Most unfortunate thing has happened. The deaths from the virus will not be the most scariest thing but the poverty and lack of earning power to the masses the virus brings. But where there is uncertainty, there will be opportunity also.Right, many families worldwide will see a decrease in their incomes, even some states will support them but at the end there will be a decrease, also the terrible crash of the stock markets will hit the real economy soon with a decrease of real estates prices, difficulties for a lot of families to pay back their loans, it is always the same stories. Probably the things will never come back to what they were 2 months back, in China a lot of people are suffering from depression now, or other psychiatric deceases, a lot are also changing the life habits, reconsidering what is important or not in life, great times for psychologist. But at the end of the end it will lead in decrease of revenues for a lot of companies, may be for the good: pollution decrease.
Artemis closed to 19/4. GoldenTime in Vienna closed from tomorrow. Expect more clubs to follow. Stay safe.
Does anyone have news of Golden Time of Bruggen? Someone has been lately them if it's still open? If you can make the name of the top girls present please? Thank you.
Right, many families worldwide will see a decrease in their incomes, even some states will support them but at the end there will be a decrease, also the terrible crash of the stock markets will hit the real economy soon with a decrease of real estates prices, difficulties for a lot of families to pay back their loans, it is always the same stories. Probably the things will never come back to what they were 2 months back, in China a lot of people are suffering from depression now, or other psychiatric deceases, a lot are also changing the life habits, reconsidering what is important or not in life, great times for psychologist. But at the end of the end it will lead in decrease of revenues for a lot of companies, may be for the good: pollution decrease.I've been asked by my foreign friends what did Singapore do to contain the spread of COVID19. The credit goes to healthcare professionals, front line staff and investigation officers.
Here is a summary of my perspective, for the benefit of my international friends.
In the early stages of the global outbreak, Singapore looked badly hit with 58 cases, the highest number outside of China. Till date, Singapore had zero deaths.
Here is what worked for Singapore:
1) Free Testing and Treatment.
In healthcare systems, there are 2 known barriers which prevents people from coming forward to be treated, "poverty penalty" and understanding how to navigate the healthcare system (and insurance pay outs). Singapore removed both barriers by allowing COVID19 tests and treatment to be free for Singaporeans and foreigners. Additionally, test results are received in 3 - 6 hours. (Kudos to Singapore's Veredus Laboratories for making portable COVID19 tests available since 01 Feb).
Currently, all COVID19 tests will continue to be paid by the Singapore government. Foreigners will have to bear the cost of COVID19 treatment in Singapore from 7 March onwards.
2) Serology Testings.
Current tests for COVID19 test looks for genetic materials of the virus in saliva, nasal, oral swabs using the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR). However, these tests couldn't identify people who went through an infection, recovered and cleared the virus from their bodies.
Serology testing, on the other hand, looks for previous infection by detecting antibodies to the virus. This type of testing is invaluable for surveillance purpose.
Singapore adopted the Serology testing early in the fight. Together with the test results and contact tracing, it created an invaluable time-motion map to identify breakout clusters and implement community containment measures effectively.
3) GovTech used Whatsapp Chat to disseminate information to the population It also uses AI to translate information into our 4 national languages.
4) Collaboration between the Ministry of Health and the Police's Criminal Investigation Unit to do effective contact tracing.
(And other pointers raised by WEF, which you can read here https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/singapore-response-contained-coronavirus-covid19-outbreak/).
The common refrain is "Singapore is a small country so it is easy to manage", but there were odds against Singapore:
A) High Human Traffic.
Singapore have a population of 6 million, but we have 65.6 million people transiting through our airport annually. In pre-COVID19 days, there was 180 K people passing through Singapore daily. The fact that Singapore had the highest number of cases outside of China during the early days of the outbreak, shows how vulnerable Singapore is to external factors.
B) Little Response Time.
Unlike the US and EU which are fighting the mass breakouts 2 months after COVID19 was first reported on 31 December 2019, Singapore had a shorter response time to roll out screening measures. The WHO declared COVID19 as a Public Health Emergency on 23 January. That same day, Singapore had her first confirmed case from a Chinese national who left Wuhan 1 day before the city's lockdown.
C) Densely Packed Population.
Singapore's densely packed housing estates meant human-to-human transmission could spread quickly through the community. Based on The World Bank's data, Singapore's population density is 7,796 people per km2. In comparison, Italy have 200 people per km2, South Korea have 515 people per km2 and Taiwan have 652 people per km2.
This is why effective contact tracing and fast quarantine was so critical to Singapore.
Travel restrictions and cities' lockdown are just one of many steps. Besides citizenry efforts (hand washing, self-imposed isolation), Singapore made wise decisions early in the fight to contain COVID19 spread. I'm sure the other Asian cities (Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau) made great steps too. Let's hope the world can pull through this, together.
Links:
1) COVID19 Tests within 3-6 hour.
(link: https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/new-covid-19-test-kit-takes-just-3-hours-determine-if-person-infected).
2) https://www.gov.sg/article/how-a-breakthrough-lab-test-expert-contact-tracing-solved-mystery-behind-largest-covid-19-cluster.
3) https://govinsider.asia/innovation/singapore-coronavirus-whatsapp-covid19-open-government-products-govtech/.
4) https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/police-missing-link-church-clusters-covid19-coronavirus-12509492.
Artemis closed to 19/4. GoldenTime in Vienna closed from tomorrow. Expect more clubs to follow. Stay safe.Didn't hear about at Sharks nor Oase. Great behavior from 2 staffs.
Didn't hear about at Sharks nor Oase. Great behavior from 2 staffs.Is that English? What do you mean?
I've been asked by my foreign friends what did Singapore do to contain the spread of COVID19. The credit goes to healthcare professionals, front line staff and investigation officers....Great post, thanks for sharing.
Is that English? What do you mean?I didn't hear when visiting on this week end Sharks twice and Oase, they would close. For sure, less than 100 people at Oase, not sure more at Sharks where they reduced number of girls. NRW is much worse than Hessen.
It's official since 15.03 18 h03. Some frontlines are closed for tourism. France in particular.
It's official since 15.03 18 h03. Some frontlines are closed for tourism. France in particular.Nationwide? Source? Especially regarding the date. Asking because 10. April was the original date for many clubs.
It's official since 15.03 18 h03. Some frontlines are closed for tourism. France in particular.Controls on A4 , Strasburg and Switzerland, but not with Belgium, NL or Luxemburg. As told me a girl about GT: not the end of the world. Still escorts in Paris. Much worse for me is no ski, really sad time. Never had a winter with no ski since I was 2 yo.
When fat or with diabetes or heart or breathing problems or with old parents, better to be careful about this virus.
Only the income of a person determines its value. Hospitals should only treat valuable people. This is the life.
I am not a cop or a doc or a fireman in the actual sense. I am just a jester with the skills to let a whole club jump around. But now I am demoted to be only a irrelevant human.
Time to grab guns, grenades and bazookas. War of the classes, now!
Are you with me? If not, iron your suit one more time and call your investment advisor. Could be your last call before you look right into the barrel. Time is up homie.
BTW, somebody I know name the virus Carola. Nice idea I guess.
We just need to love her before we are all going to die!
Nationwide? Source? Especially regarding the date. Asking because 10. April was the original date for many clubs.https://www.thelocal.de/20200316/coronavirus-restrictions-whats-closed-and-whats-open-in-germany
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/covid-19-germany-shuts-down-malls-bars-sports-venues/1768195
Investors who put their money into the business model of German hospitals and thus put immense pressure on them are currently losing a lot of money. German hospitals are no longer allowed to perform unnecessary operations in order to keep capacities free. Unfortunately, unnecessary operations account for a large part of their profits, such as cosmetic surgery or back surgery, which could be avoided by physiotherapy.
I am so sorry for the investors.
Assuming a private clinic only has one ventilator available. Who gets the treatment? The millionaire or the guy with the 9 millimeter?
I don't want to be the millionaire in this situation!
Have politicians ever told the full truth or do they always just act like they do?
Reload, no need to aim accurate, then fire at will!
Doomsday!
(I usual sleep till afternoon, but I could partake a bit later. Promise.).
Solidarity!
For people who grew up under a communist dictatorship, this shouldn't be a problem. The rest will make it or die. Above all we have to think of the high risk groups. Old hat, the old and the pre-sick.
In Germany, for example, about a quarter (22 million people) of the population is over 60 years old. They deserve the solidarity of the rest of the population. Especially since it was this population group that rebuilt the German Reich after the 2nd World War. Of course also with the money of Marshall Plan. (ERP).
By comparison, the citizens of the former German Democratic Republic were lazy for 40 years, then they started a small peaceful revolution (without Facebook) and changed the world.
They are to blame for the virus!
In any case it is important to be in solidarity with the old people, to stay at home and to make erotic movies. Or to watch?
But.
(call me crazy, I assure not to visit a Shisha Bar).
Has anyone ever asked the elderly whether they would like to take advantage of the solidarity propagated? In other words, at least the pensioners who can still answer? The majority of these people lie half-dead in "residences" like battery cages and drool all day long.
Everyone who has worked with elderly people at some point in their lives knows that 50% of the nursing home residents would have no problem if someone came and finally switched off the lights.
You should be at least 18 years old to read here!
Solidarity, now! From the old for the young, for the future of humanity! Grab a rope, granny!
As he said, pardon, the perverted Macron.
This is war now, on your continent, in your state and in your city!
Stay at home and watch it from there.
At least until we have the certainty of witnessing the greatest show on earth.
Investors who put their money into the business model of German hospitals and thus put immense pressure on them are currently losing a lot of money. German hospitals are no longer allowed to perform unnecessary operations in order to keep capacities free. Unfortunately, unnecessary operations account for a large part of their profits, such as cosmetic surgery or back surgery, which could be avoided by physiotherapy.
I am so sorry for the investors.
Assuming a private clinic only has one ventilator available. Who gets the treatment? The millionaire or the guy with the 9 millimeter?
Though some hospitals in Germany are privately owned, few if any people pay directly. Payments are from insurance, which everyone has. It really doesn't matter if you are poor or rich, you get the same treatment, both because the hospital gets the same amount of money and because anything else would be morally wrong. And, no, you can't bribe for treatment if you are rich.
And, no, you can't bribe for treatment if you are rich.Maybe it would be difficult to bribe to get treatment, but the wealthy sure can use their money to gain access to testing, which helps to establish whether you do indeed require treatment in the first place. And this is exactly what has been happening at private labs in places like the United States and the United Kingdom. To stop this, governments ought to go ahead and buy up all the tests at the private labs so that they will be available to those who need them first. That would be the healthcare providers working on the front lines. If they get sick, then we won't have the people we need to take care of everybody else.
ExpatLover
03-20-20, 12:35
Maybe it would be difficult to bribe to get treatment, but the wealthy sure can use their money to gain access to testing, which helps to establish whether you do indeed require treatment in the first place. And this is exactly what has been happening at private labs in places like the United States and the United Kingdom. To stop this, governments ought to go ahead and buy up all the tests at the private labs so that they will be available to those who need them first. That would be the healthcare providers working on the front lines. If they get sick, then we won't have the people we need to take care of everybody else.
No need to be tested, if you are very sick you need a respirator for at least 2 weeks, in many hospital they are no more available, also the respirator without trained nurses and doctors is useless. Far better to keep safe and to copy paste what China have done because of the weaknesses of the European governments better you protect yourself like the Chinese and don t listen any European doctors. China has successfully succeed in the battle against the CV, no need to try new things.
Maybe it would be difficult to bribe to get treatment, but the wealthy sure can use their money to gain access to testing, which helps to establish whether you do indeed require treatment in the first place. And this is exactly what has been happening at private labs in places like the United States and the United Kingdom. To stop this, governments ought to go ahead and buy up all the tests at the private labs so that they will be available to those who need them first. That would be the healthcare providers working on the front lines. If they get sick, then we won't have the people we need to take care of everybody else.
No need to be tested, if you are very sick you need a respirator for at least 2 weeks, in many hospital they are no more available, also the respirator without trained nurses and doctors is useless. Far better to keep safe and to copy paste what China have done because of the weaknesses of the European governments better you protect yourself like the Chinese and don t listen any European doctors. China has successfully succeed in the battle against the CV, no need to try new things.Are you aware that when you respond with a quote your reply should be outside of the quote tags?
Thanks Buddha, the Internet is still open! Air time.
Made it, social contacts, with humans. Several.
Be aware, it's a front line report!
Good news! Police is taking over empty streets, keeping them clean. Not much to do for the virus!
Governments are doing a great job, flatten the curve.
I needed to help somebody that's why I crossed red line.
Otherwise stay at home!
I also wank a bit too much, that's why I needed more toilette paper.
Otherwise stay at home!
Don't forget to think about your fellow humans, don't by too much at the same time! It is way more better to go out every day and buy just a little bit!
Otherwise stay at home!
The remaining relevant system is working. All the people who make this happen are awesome. Hopefully they can last long, the others could be already ill.
I saw 8 police officers arresting one criminal. The police officers were nearly still kids and the "gangsta" screamed at them fully. But the officers weren't protected against the virus. Hopefully there are not infected now!
The number of positive people is going to be uncountable next week.
Plus all the dark figures.
Stay at home, stay negative, fever is coming!
Had eye contact with two nice ladies in supermarket, maybe symptomatic free unemployed hookers?
I will never knew.
We have to keep hygienically distance to fight the virus.
Personally I am still okay, just a small fluid, nothing spectacular. Home office.
Better not to loose your phone these days, otherwise someone could slip under the health care radar.
Central Europe, March 21nd, 2020.
No need to be tested, if you are very sick you need a respirator for at least 2 weeks, in many hospital they are no more available, also the respirator without trained nurses and doctors is useless. Far better to keep safe and to copy paste what China have done because of the weaknesses of the European governments better you protect yourself like the Chinese and don t listen any European doctors. China has successfully succeed in the battle against the CV, no need to try new things.There's no need to be tested if you're not showing any symptoms, or even if you are, the symptoms are very light. Therefore, people ought not be able to use their money to get tested just because they want to. Let people on the first line of response and people who are really sick have first access to the limited number of tests that are available. At least that's the situation in the United States (limited test availability). Access to testing is better than it was even a week ago, but still not where it needs to be. Let those who need testing the most have first access.
There's no need to be tested if you're not showing any symptoms, or even if you are, the symptoms are very light. Therefore, people ought not be able to use their money to get tested just because they want to. Let people on the first line of response and people who are really sick have first access to the limited number of tests that are available. At least that's the situation in the United States (limited test availability). Access to testing is better than it was even a week ago, but still not where it needs to be. Let those who need testing the most have first access.+1.
Great advice.
ExpatLover
03-22-20, 20:35
The Chinese and Korean strategy was following testing as many people as possible and segregate all the positive one, but to do this you need to have tests which is not the case in Europe or USA, when I am in NY or in Paris or London or Madrid or Milano. I just need to look outside my window to see where is the third world just under my eyes. China is the super power from today, able to solve the problem of coronavirus within 2 months, great respect to them and if our politicians were not too stupid they will just copy paste what the Chinese have done, but they are too stupid.
.............I also wank a bit too much, that's why I needed more toilette paper.
...................Had eye contact with two nice ladies in supermarket, maybe symptomatic free unemployed hookers?
I will never knew.
We have to keep hygienically distance to fight the virus................Since I first ejaculated about 51 years ago I have never gone without ejaculating for more than one month and that one month was only on one occasion. For obvious reasons I have decided to avoid physical relations. My last sexual encounter was eight days ago at Sharks FKK. This was also the last time I ejaculated. I am conducting a self experiment to see how long I can go without wanking / ejaculating. Hopefully, it would do me some good. To assist me I am avoiding looking at any porn or sexy movies / pictures. I am hunkered indoors and when I do go outdoors I will avoid looking at any good looking women. The most difficult part is to avoid thinking of sex especially my recent FKK encounters. I am serious.
ExpatLover
03-24-20, 19:10
If what you are writing is true, you should be over 60 YO, and not ejaculating for several days or weeks is really not a idea, will probably increase your risk to catch a cancer, but you like to play with your health) take it easy.
The Chinese and Korean strategy was following testing as many people as possible and segregate all the positive one, but to do this you need to have tests which is not the case in Europe or USA, when I am in NY or in Paris or London or Madrid or Milano. I just need to look outside my window to see where is the third world just under my eyes. China is the super power from today, able to solve the problem of coronavirus within 2 months, great respect to them and if our politicians were not too stupid they will just copy paste what the Chinese have done, but they are too stupid.Agree 100% with you. In addition I'm going to look for what China is doing to prevent starting another epidemic in few years or even months. If they really enforce permanently banning those wet markets, we definitely can give credit to Chinese government.
Since I first ejaculated about 51 years ago I have never gone without ejaculating for more than one month and that one month was only on one occasion. For obvious reasons I have decided to avoid physical relations. My last sexual encounter was eight days ago at Sharks FKK. This was also the last time I ejaculated. I am conducting a self experiment to see how long I can go without wanking / ejaculating. Hopefully, it would do me some good. To assist me I am avoiding looking at any porn or sexy movies / pictures. I am hunkered indoors and when I do go outdoors I will avoid looking at any good looking women. The most difficult part is to avoid thinking of sex especially my recent FKK encounters. I am serious.As long you don't have balls pain, you will enjoy more on next time: choose a really attractive girl and just enjoy. You will survive to this wait.
Engine Driver
03-25-20, 08:43
China is the super power from today, able to solve the problem of coronavirus within 2 months, great respect to them and if our politicians were not too stupid they will just copy paste what the Chinese have done, but they are too stupid.China is a communist dictatorship, so President Xi and his politburo can achieve quick results without seeking permission. The Chinese people will follow rules as they don't want to be punished or sent to "re-education camps". Our politicians in the West are not stupid as you say. They are doing the best they can within the confines of a democracy.
Here is an interesting clip, based on factual evidence, which runs counter to your claims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpHVrrIWe_o&app=desktop
As long you don't have balls pain, you will enjoy more on next time: choose a really attractive girl and just enjoy. You will survive to this wait.During puberty I had wet dreams to relieve pressure on the testicles. Fifty years later I doubt I will have wet dreams so although semen is produced there is not as much as when I was 16 so less pressure on the balls. I doubt I will have balls pain. The pain is in the mind.
During puberty I had wet dreams to relieve pressure on the testicles. Fifty years later I doubt I will have wet dreams so although semen is produced there is not as much as when I was 16 so less pressure on the balls. I doubt I will have balls pain. The pain is in the mind.I remember when I was about 12/13 and being woken up at night being wet from sperm. I also remember one of my exceptional girlfriend, just divorcing when we met and started, she told me she didn't like sex in her previous life, she never felt orgasmus, but she loved me so much, because she felt pretty in my eyes she said, when she discovered orgasmus she became crazy about sex, asking for when we woke up, to give her strength to go to work and stay whole day far from me when at the beginning we worked in same company but I preferred to change, to protect her because everybody bullshiting about us, and when I finished to work, sometimes at 10/11 pm, she waited for me, telling: eat your diner, I m waiting for You, sometimes I just made her cum on DATY, and couldn't finish for me, but not a problem, my biggest pleasure was how she looked at me, I think we both felt very pretty together, all guys looking at her, a woman for love and became fire for sex, unfortunately too many other problems with her, exhausting me and killing my mind, but nothing about money and she was perfect for love and sex. With a woman like her, from my mother and my last woman who was such a real angel, I can only love women, having no frustration about women nor about sex, because my women became to ask me for sex, no headache, no period, had bloody sex, Miss love was so hot on period, also my record with her having 7 times sex on a night, without taking shower, sleeping after and only showering on morning after breakfast, what we call passion, and she asked for more when I wanted to sleep after second time. When I left her, because she killed my mind, even could be a angel, from super trained with at least sex twice a day, after 2 days, I got so big pain with very hard balls. But we should know what is rare is better, so let s wait for better.
ExpatLover
03-26-20, 06:58
Probably you have a better understanding they me about China, I am fluent in Chinese, drove more than 200000 kilometers in China, have a apartment, live several months there every year since 2000. What is a democracy without the power to protect the population, China is a very safe country, where the children, the women can go out alone at any time without any risk, this is more or less impossible in most of the cities in the US, Mexico, France, Italy, Spain, UK, Germany.
Just have a look about what is happening in the recent weeks, how many Chinese living in the US, Canada, . Are doing anything to come back to China, just because they feel safer to deal with the Covid 19.
Engine Driver
03-26-20, 09:40
Probably you have a better understanding they me about China, I am fluent in Chinese, drove more than 200000 kilometers in China, have a apartment, live several months there every year since 2000. What is a democracy without the power to protect the population, China is a very safe country, where the children, the women can go out alone at any time without any risk, this is more or less impossible in most of the cities in the US, Mexico, France, Italy, Spain, UK, Germany.
Just have a look about what is happening in the recent weeks, how many Chinese living in the US, Canada, . Are doing anything to come back to China, just because they feel safer to deal with the Covid 19.Unfortunately, despite lifting people out of extreme poverty over the past 20 years, the Communist Party is unable to abolish the unsavoury and barbaric practice of eating exotic and wild creatures, amongst its people. The hygiene standards at those wet markets are truly revolting. The mythical belief that the eating a pangolin penis can improve your sex life is somehow worth destroying the world for. President Xi certainly rolled the dice on that one and did not learn any lessons from SARS.
Yes, Chinese are now fleeing back to Wuhan from Australia, US and Canada because they are scared and feel China is safer. I have seen pictures of these traitors wearing their full hazmat suits, googles, N95 masks AND surgical mask (for double filtration) on Air China. Good. The West needs migrants who are going to integrate with main stream society, and share common values and beliefs. The recent Chinese migrants have only been using the West for economic and educational advantage, without contributing to society in any meaningful way. They live in a parallel universe. We have seen the worst of their behaviour over the past three months.
Probably you have a better understanding they me about China, I am fluent in Chinese, drove more than 200000 kilometers in China, have a apartment, live several months there every year since 2000. What is a democracy without the power to protect the population, China is a very safe country, where the children, the women can go out alone at any time without any risk, this is more or less impossible in most of the cities in the US, Mexico, France, Italy, Spain, UK, Germany.
Just have a look about what is happening in the recent weeks, how many Chinese living in the US, Canada, . Are doing anything to come back to China, just because they feel safer to deal with the Covid 19.Be careful in your travels through China and do not endanger your health by risky behavior, a man who died in China Monday reportedly tested positive for a new hantavirus which comes from rats.
Be careful in your travels through China and do not endanger your health by risky behavior, a man who died in China Monday reportedly tested positive for a new hantavirus which comes from rats.Coronavirus is already now back in China, in other parts of country.
Orthodox Easter on 19 April, so no big regrets because lowest time of the year in FKK land. Wish girls are safe at home with family, this time is very important for Romanian girls. Big miss for me is almost no ski on this year, black year, even if would marry Miss Universe.
Italy extend confined until 3 May. France extend over 15 April. Spain think to keep borders closed on Summer, no tourism? Austria reopen small shops on 14 April. Who will reopen brothels first? Austria or Switzerland? I don't think for Germany.
Horror on Hart island in NYC.
Coronavirus is already now back in China, in other parts of country.It NEVER left China!
Do you really believe that a communist country with over a billion people are free of the virus?
It NEVER left China!
Do you really believe that a communist country with over a billion people are free of the virus?More than 1,3 billion and only 3250 deaths told, when this is not far from daily deaths rate in US.
Banana Boi
04-11-20, 10:19
Coronavirus is already now back in China, in other parts of country.Korea has just reported that the virus returns even after a person has been deemed recovered. If this is true China has just made a huge mistake reopening Wuhan.
Korea has just reported that the virus returns even after a person has been deemed recovered. If this is true China has just made a huge mistake reopening Wuhan.Who can believe only 3250 deaths, even I really wish them this is true and they are luckier than French.
It NEVER left China!
Yeah it's China, even when they were reporting 1000's of death, many people believed actual number were above 100 K in total.
And Japan, number of cases just exploded right after Olympics got cancelled.
Yeah it's China, even when they were reporting 1000's of death, many people believed actual number were above 100 K in total.
And Japan, number of cases just exploded right after Olympics got cancelled.Not cancelled, Olympics are just delayed, but for sure Japan didn't want. I just wish they will find a better time than Summer on 2021, because not good weather for performances and can even be dangerous for marathon, long walk races.
And yet another Covid-19 thread in Germany FKK? This Corona chat is certainly viral.
Engine Driver. Your post seems to be to be extremely racist, making sweeping generalisations about the Chinese and applying them to every individual.
What you say does not apply to my Chinese friends. As for the meat eating practices of the Chinese: the vast majority oppose the eating of dogs and the Government is beginning to circumscribe the wet markets.
I find many of the dietary habits of many Chinese to be disgusting, as you do. But I also find the carnivorous habits of many westerners to be also immoral and non sustainable.
Tomorrow, very important day for Romanian girls, wish them to be fine at home with family.
This would have been a very bad week in the clubs regardless. Ramadan is starting in the 23rd and the Orthodox Easter just passed, so the ladies would have still been gone. That is a recipe for a real Catastrophe.
Austrian which was first to reopen should not reopen brothels until at least 2 months. Maybe in July?
Germany which just reopen have already R0 increasing from 0,6/0,7 to 1 , when danger above 1 , they are preparing for a second wave when already more than 5500 deaths, much lower than in France with around 30 000 and UK which will be more around 40 000.
From my German friend, German brothels should not reopen until after Summer.
From my German friend, German brothels should not reopen until after Summer.Roger that. Thanks.
TeaInTheSun
05-03-20, 07:38
From my German friend, German brothels should not reopen until after Summer.When the Covid crisis started, I did my own research and I realized that this summer I would not travel to my beloved Fkkland. Later, continuing with my research, I thought that September or October could be an option, but when I hear the probable protocols that will be taken in a place that requires fluid contact, I say no. The "spirit" of a FKK is proximity, a gentle touch, sublime friction of completely naked bodies without masks or distances. Now I only think about next year when everything is as we knew it or better.
When the Covid crisis started, I did my own research and I realized that this summer I would not travel to my beloved Fkkland. Later, continuing with my research, I thought that September or October could be an option, but when I hear the probable protocols that will be taken in a place that requires fluid contact, I say no. The "spirit" of a FKK is proximity, a gentle touch, sublime friction of completely naked bodies without masks or distances. Now I only think about next year when everything is as we knew it or better.For sure I will not go if have to put on mask, like I never accepted CBJ, I prefer no BJ. I also refuse HJ, I prefer not to finish, and next one.
TeaInTheSun
05-04-20, 09:14
For sure I will not go if have to put on mask, like I never accepted CBJ, I prefer no BJ. I also refuse HJ, I prefer not to finish, and next one.I think I have around six years ridding FKK's and I just got twice CBJ, once at GT in Vienna and other was at Palace. Rest were always BBJ without requesting. Last summer I tried to refuse a couple of HJ but my adorable partners had a good technique. I would like to restart my running sessions but I still have lower back pain concerns. Stamina come back to me!
From my German friend, German brothels should not reopen until after Summer.Trying to control R0 after confined, Germany even think about maybe cancelling legendary cultural Oktoberfest. Germany succeed because being very careful about virus. I manage to live without brothels, quite easy, but when harder for job under virus, really wish for my Summer climbing tour holidays, looking forward going to magic Dolomiti.
Later, continuing with my research, I thought that September or October could be an option, but when I hear the probable protocols that will be taken in a place that requires fluid contact, I say no.Could you elaborate on this? What sort of protocols do you expect will be taken in FKKs and similar establishments?
Could you elaborate on this? What sort of protocols do you expect will be taken in FKKs and similar establishments?There may be many and one of that could be test results, I am just guessing.
TeaInTheSun
05-05-20, 08:34
Could you elaborate on this? What sort of protocols do you expect will be taken in FKKs and similar establishments?During uncertain times, you will hear just speculations. Related to new actions at FKK, we have to wait for something official that it will applied for few time I think. We are social beings who need contact, no matter if there is a monetary transaction or if we want to seduce girls at the real bar while we watch a soccer game on a TV and suddenly we all hug because our team scored a goal. Masks, social distance, fear and other measures in a place of pleasure is not life. I prefer to wait for the life, someday next year.
Trying to control R0 after confined, Germany even think about maybe cancelling legendary cultural Oktoberfest. Germany succeed because being very careful about virus. I manage to live without brothels, quite easy, but when harder for job under virus, really wish for my Summer climbing tour holidays, looking forward going to magic Dolomiti.Austria may reopen on 1 July, to discover wonderful Vienna, maybe Anita and Sissi will be back at GT Vienna, it would be pleasure. Welcum and Andiamo are depending on Italian business. Wait and see, but I would like so much to start climbing on 10 July, to forget my so bad Winter with no ski.
I recently watched an episode of Rick Steeves' Europe, and he was in Frankfurt. I remember when he used to call his travel series Europe Through the Backdoor. Son if you only knew LOL! In the recent episode I watched, he showcased the Frankfurt Hauptbanhof, the busiest one in all of Germany I understand. My heart raced with excited warmth as I reminisced about many an afternoon jaunt to Oase, Sharks, or World that began from that very station! He also showed the nearby red light district, which I have never patronized. Well if I can't get to it, then I can at least look at it on TV!
I recently watched an episode of Rick Steeves' Europe, and he was in Frankfurt. I remember when he used to call his travel series Europe Through the Backdoor. Son if you only knew LOL! In the recent episode I watched, he showcased the Frankfurt Hauptbanhof, the busiest one in all of Germany I understand. My heart raced with excited warmth as I reminisced about many an afternoon jaunt to Oase, Sharks, or World that began from that very station! He also showed the nearby red light district, which I have never patronized. Well if I can't get to it, then I can at least look at it on TV!I have seen some of Rick's travel documentaries and highly recommend them, a lot of them are on YouTube.
I actually find these days that when I look at travel documentaries and porn that my senses are hugely intensified compared to pre lockdown times, it's much more like being there than in normal times.
I reckon it's a mixture on sensory deprivation and the realization that for the time being it's as good as it gets!
I recently watched an episode of Rick Steeves' Europe, and he was in Frankfurt. I remember when he used to call his travel series Europe Through the Backdoor. Son if you only knew LOL! In the recent episode I watched, he showcased the Frankfurt Hauptbanhof, the busiest one in all of Germany I understand. My heart raced with excited warmth as I reminisced about many an afternoon jaunt to Oase, Sharks, or World that began from that very station! He also showed the nearby red light district, which I have never patronized. Well if I can't get to it, then I can at least look at it on TV!I sense a little nostalgia in it! Do not worry, we will soon be back at that station on our way to the clubs and the girls will, once again, tell us what they "make" in the room! LOL.
I recently watched an episode of Rick Steeves' Europe, and he was in Frankfurt. I remember when he used to call his travel series Europe Through the Backdoor. Son if you only knew LOL! In the recent episode I watched, he showcased the Frankfurt Hauptbanhof, the busiest one in all of Germany I understand. My heart raced with excited warmth as I reminisced about many an afternoon jaunt to Oase, Sharks, or World that began from that very station! He also showed the nearby red light district, which I have never patronized. Well if I can't get to it, then I can at least look at it on TV!I remember my last view of the Frankfurt Hauptbanhof on the night of Monday 16 March after leaving Sharks, I had never seen it so empty, it was eerie. I knew then and there that I needed to cut short my trip and head back home and tears almost came to my eyes. I decided to walk back to my hotel, the Marriott, Messe. The stroll was frightfully dreary. I dipped into the Red Light district and checked out a few providers with no intention of partaking, most rooms were empty with the available fare not the least bit appetizing. When I got to my hotel headed straight to Expedia.
Reopening bois de Boulogne and Vincennes on Monday, Paris will be first for paid sex, with Nigerians, Brazilians and Romanians or Bulgarians, for cheap rate, but I will stay with prettier escorts even more expensive. French borders will stay closed until 15 June. I won't criticize them about virus, but our politics really don't know the field. When I m often asked why I don't train turning around in bois de Boulogne like so many, but no motivation, even prostitutes there, compare to Dolomiti.
OK, the last time I watched Rick Steeves he was in Frankfurt. Then the next time? Romania! Is he trying to tell us something that we already know LOLOLOL! I've been thinking about going to Romania just for the sake of it, and to learn more first-hand about this land that has produced so many lovelies to the benefit of the European mongering scene. One thing that I learned was that the first Romanian monarch was a German who was recruited by the Romanians to be their ruler. So, I see that the connection between Romania and Germany is much deeper than I ever realized. I can't wait for the doors to international travel swing wide open again so that we can board those gleaming wings to paradise!
I sense a little nostalgia in it! Do not worry, we will soon be back at that station on our way to the clubs and the girls will, once again, tell us what they "make" in the room! LOL.And how much they like "fucking with us" LOL!
If your balls are full empty, in hurry, go to Paris where confined stopped on Monday and I saw street girls on day on Tuesday, Romanians or Bulgarians or Albanians? No mask. I didn't cross bois de Boulogne where I'm pretty sure Nigerians and Brazilians. Nowhere can compete with Paris, and this is for cheap rate, but you get level according to what you pay, you won't get elegance and charm. For this, Russian escorts, I'm happy I found Olga who is between modeling and part timer escorting, so, really not professional behavior, but very fresh reactions and tight like a virgin.
When borders will open between Western EU, maybe around mid June? Meaning France, Germany, NL, Austria, probably Switzerland because they need, and I really wish for Italy on August, maybe also Belgium, Spain won t open before after Summer, then it will be time to discover wonderful Vienna and maybe GT, maybe with Anita and Sissi back there, and also, if opened, I will go to train in Neuss ski dome, very close to LR, no need to take ski for baby slope, can run bare feet and topless like for my climbing, when going to NRW girls. When street girls already working with no mask in Paris, really incredible, I want my dreamed Summer in my mountains, after working hard on field under crisis, but we succeeded to achieve aims, saving job and clients trust me.
And how much they like "fucking with us" LOL!Funny ridiculous when a girl who doesn't know you, come and say: I want you, I want fuck You. On the other hand, I remember fire Domenika ex Sharks, at GT, she had a BF, but told: sex is better with orgasm, and asking for again. Kity was upset when I didn't succeed to give her, but she moved too much her body.
ExpatLover
05-15-20, 19:45
I remember my last view of the Frankfurt Hauptbanhof on the night of Monday 16 March after leaving Sharks, I had never seen it so empty, it was eerie. I knew then and there that I needed to cut short my trip and head back home and tears almost came to my eyes. I decided to walk back to my hotel, the Marriott, Messe. The stroll was frightfully dreary. I dipped into the Red Light district and checked out a few providers with no intention of partaking, most rooms were empty with the available fare not the least bit appetizing. When I got to my hotel headed straight to Expedia.Answer: I am often in Frankfurt bahnhof but never to have sex, it is just looking so cheap sex, with a lot of. Guys around, a real no go for me, I have no pleasure, no illusion and even I don't understand the interest to go there.
Iceland will be allowing international tourists from June 15 and will be testing each visitor at the airport. Therefore, there will be no quarantine on arrival. I think that's the way forward for things getting back on track. If only Germany will reopen FKKs and test each international arrival at the airport!
Iceland will be allowing international tourists from June 15 and will be testing each visitor at the airport. Therefore, there will be no quarantine on arrival. I think that's the way forward for things getting back on track. If only Germany will reopen FKKs and test each international arrival at the airport!I would be prepared to pay all costs associated with the test too so long as they let me in with a negative test result with no restrictions on my movement, like a 14-day quarantine.
Iceland will be allowing international tourists from June 15 and will be testing each visitor at the airport. Therefore, there will be no quarantine on arrival. I think that's the way forward for things getting back on track. If only Germany will reopen FKKs and test each international arrival at the airport!Earlier this month, Vienna airport began offering optional paid tests as a means of avoiding a quarantine period.
https://www.viennaairport.com/pcrtest
Does Germany have any proposed dates on reopening? I would think they should have it done by now.
Iceland will be allowing international tourists from June 15 and will be testing each visitor at the airport. Therefore, there will be no quarantine on arrival. I think that's the way forward for things getting back on track. If only Germany will reopen FKKs and test each international arrival at the airport!
Earlier this month, Vienna airport began offering optional paid tests as a means of avoiding a quarantine period.
https://www.viennaairport.com/pcrtestIf you're not Austrian quarantine is mandatory.
ATTENTION: Arriving passengers who do not have a health certificate can only be tested if they have a residence in Austria and a valid residence permit.
All other arriving passengers who do not have a health certificate will be immediately taken to quarantine by the authorities. They must arrange for themselves to be tested by a laboratory at the quarantine location, which may involve longer waiting times.
The tests results are available within a period of about three to six hours* and will be sent to the tested persons.
The price for the test is EUR 190,- (price incl. VAT) and has to be paid exclusively by bank card on site.190 and still wait 3-6 h! Shiiiiiiit.
If you're not Austrian quarantine is mandatory.
190 and still wait 3-6 h! Shiiiiiiit.What if someone refuses or does not authorize the charge. That 190 would cover about two sessions at least.
I would rather be put in Austrian jail at least can practice German for free and not have to pay a hotel or food costs.
What if someone refuses or does not authorize the charge. That 190 would cover about two sessions at least.
I would rather be put in Austrian jail at least can practice German for free and not have to pay a hotel or food costs.I heard on the news today that some countries are imposing fines of 5,000 euros for people who are caught not following the rules. I for one don't want to mess with that. Easily a budget buster!
What if someone refuses or does not authorize the charge. That 190 would cover about two sessions at least.
I would rather be put in Austrian jail at least can practice German for free and not have to pay a hotel or food costs.If you want to taste very fast jail, go to drive in Switzerland, as tell top gear: driving in Switzerland lead to jail. In Argau jail, You have 4 beds rooms with TV, I could watch Cortina Tofane women downhill, room mates were as surprised as when I watched at GT. In Zurich police jail, when You insult kantonal polizei and administration, as they couldn't behave with me like a Albanian, so You can have very small underground with no window room only for you. Can t say for Meylin south Zurich, they told me high standard, but I refused to be controlled for 4th time, to eat, only many insults. 3 prisons from Thursday to Tuesday, with no proof, this is Switzerland. Don t know for Austria. Both very beautiful country, even Wallis is much more beautiful than Zurich.
When the Covid crisis started, I did my own research and I realized that this summer I would not travel to my beloved Fkkland. Later, continuing with my research, I thought that September or October could be an option, but when I hear the probable protocols that will be taken in a place that requires fluid contact, I say no. The "spirit" of a FKK is proximity, a gentle touch, sublime friction of completely naked bodies without masks or distances. Now I only think about next year when everything is as we knew it or better.I'the like to be more optimistic but it's a giant leap of faith to envisage FKK's reopening this calendar year.
Looking further ahead is clearly much conjecture but the doors opening again in 2021 (for business as usual) surely shall depend on a successfully proven and individually certified vaccination or this virus mysteriously fading away.
In the absence of both and social distancing still in force, it's impossible to see licensed brothels given the green light.
Rogue Nation
05-23-20, 08:35
Does Germany have any proposed dates on reopening? I would think they should have it done by now.Prostitution is still illegal due to COVID-19. The clubs will be the last P6 locations to open again. This will not happen in 2020.
I'the like to be more optimistic but it's a giant leap of faith to envisage FKK's reopening this calendar year.
Looking further ahead is clearly much conjecture but the doors opening again in 2021 (for business as usual) surely shall depend on a successfully proven and individually certified vaccination or this virus mysteriously fading away.
In the absence of both and social distancing still in force, it's impossible to see licensed brothels given the green light.FKK land is not only Germany if You are a free bird. Beautiful Austria with wonderful Vienna Salzburg should open on 1 July, NL maybe on 1 September and really wish for high level YY which could attract some NRW girls from Dusseldorf Dortmund Rhur Aachen and Koln like before. I don t know when, but Spain and Switzerland should also reopen. I agree I think most complicated is Germany when new law was a total failure except for registration and big risk for R0 to explode when they managed quite well to control virus, but too many brothels, some too risky, some with low hygiene even for some famous, but girls will move for new business. I don t worry too much, I already found Catalunya for new Slavians playfield before virus and I m sure they will come back, when misery in Ukraine, Belarussia, Lithuania, deep Russia, like in Romania. Sun is still shining, I just miss snow to make my own lines, looking at my runs.
Prostitution is still illegal due to COVID-19. The clubs will be the last P6 locations to open again. This will not happen in 2020.The last time I visited FKK they were preventing certain people from entering. After they reopen will that continue? Lets say people from countries with high level of coronavirus.
ExpatLover
05-23-20, 15:47
FKK land is not only Germany if You are a free bird. Beautiful Austria with wonderful Vienna Salzburg should open on 1 July, NL maybe on 1 September and really wish for high level YY which could attract some NRW girls from Dusseldorf Dortmund Rhur Aachen and Koln like before. I don t know when, but Spain and Switzerland should also reopen. I agree I think most complicated is Germany when new law was a total failure except for registration and big risk for R0 to explode when they managed quite well to control virus, but too many brothels, some too risky, some with low hygiene even for some famous, but girls will move for new business. I don t worry too much, I already found Catalunya for new Slavians playfield before virus and I m sure they will come back, when misery in Ukraine, Belarussia, Lithuania, deep Russia, like in Romania. Sun is still shining, I just miss snow to make my own lines, looking at my runs.
My problem is not when the FKK will open but what will be the LU and what could be my risk to get sick. I am afraid that the LU will be bad, only the desperate girls will come back, the most beautiful and clever one have already find a solution to make their living. Second, knowing the extreme proximity you have in a FKK, the high risk to touch infected things, doors, classes, desks. Without speaking having sex with girls having multiple risky contacts every day, my conclusion for sure: I will not enter a FKK before long long time.
Rogue Nation
05-23-20, 19:29
FKK land is not only Germany if You are a free bird. Beautiful Austria with wonderful Vienna Salzburg should open on 1 July, NL maybe on 1 September and really wish for high level YY which could attract some NRW girls from Dusseldorf Dortmund Rhur Aachen and Koln like before. I don t know when, but Spain and Switzerland should also reopen.Where are you getting those dates from? Did you roll the dice? That's what you wish for? No FKK club in Austria will re-open in July. The only valid information is in your last sentence: You don't know. Even politicians in most EU countries don't know. They are extending the lock down for indoor events, discotheques, concerts further and further. And FKK clubs are the last venues on their list to re-open. Face reality.
Where are you getting those dates from? Did you roll the dice? That's what you wish for? No FKK club in Austria will re-open in July. The only valid information is in your last sentence: You don't know. Even politicians in most EU countries don't know. They are extending the lock down for indoor events, discotheques, concerts further and further. And FKK clubs are the last venues on their list to re-open. Face reality.I wrote about Austria and you can read on thread: Austria is ahead compare to Germany, I agree it will be complicated in Germany where too many risky brothels.
I wrote about Austria and you can read on thread: Austria is ahead compare to Germany, I agree it will be complicated in Germany where too many risky brothels.Great news, I think I can go to Dolomiti for Stelvio so beautiful from Prato, Gavia, extreme Mortirolo and Frioul for extreme Zoncolan from Ovaro and my new friend 28% Gentile, thanks to carabinieri for advice when they saw me in Zoncolan. Wellcum and Andiamo are 1 hour speeding from Ovaro.
Spain should also open on July, so Catalunya should be on business for girls. Not only Germany for brothels land.
TeaInTheSun
05-24-20, 13:03
Where are you getting those dates from? Did you roll the dice? That's what you wish for? No FKK club in Austria will re-open in July. The only valid information is in your last sentence: You don't know. Even politicians in most EU countries don't know. They are extending the lock down for indoor events, discotheques, concerts further and further. And FKK clubs are the last venues on their list to re-open. Face reality.Yes. What is the use of having FKK opened in Europe if we don't have the normal service as we knew it before. Eye contact from trantric sex?
Yes. What is the use of having FKK opened in Europe if we don't have the normal service as we knew it before. Eye contact from trantric sex?Kissing with mask, but more hygienic to have mask to lick ass, not easy for BJ with mask, gloves and condom, and only those with long length can have sex and stay 1 meter away. No worth if can't have sex close to like at home, no problem for this with my escorts in Paris, even a Russian elegant very woman type, after great foreplay, making her cum on DATY, my way from how I learned in real life, told me yesterday, after meeting and leaving 4 escorts before her because of fake photos, after orgasm, she can't have sex because painful for her, she wanted to finish me with mouth or hand, but not my way, disappointing exhausting when I booked first one at 2 pm, she was my fifth booking starting at 8.30 pm. Only good point was I stayed nearly 1 hour for 30 mn booking, she saw for time, but as I told her I was not interested to finish like this, she didn't ask for more. Of course, I will never return, when no Romanian never behave like this with me, even small pussies, but always trying to please me, when most say thank You after taking care of them.
I wrote about Austria and you can read on thread: Austria is ahead compare to Germany, I agree it will be complicated in Germany where too many risky brothels.Austria really seem ahead, if they really organize first of season formula 1 race on 5 July, even without public, but many people from all over the world working for this. Usually, Hockenheim. De race around 20 July, let's see for Germany, when 2 races on 5 and 12 are planned on Red Bull Zeldweg. At ring.
About what was written by one of fakers here, of course Sharks and Oase are still closed, when prostitution seem to be illegal in Germany at the moment, and same in Switzerland. Not illegal in France with girls in streets and escorts. Don t mean can t find hidden escorting in Germany at the moment, even illegal. But no brothel can open in Germany. Until when?
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