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Kissing with mask, but more hygienic to have mask to lick ass, not easy for BJ with mask...........Some ingenious entrepreneur probably from China or India is going to come up with a mask with a dam in the mouth area for kissing, blow job and DATY. Hey, I probably should work on that myself, make a ton of money and use that money to pay the girls extra not to use it.
Everyone seems to have their own idea of what will happen but there's little in the way of facts. All I see is that the federal plan is that the lockdown will end and allow mass gatherings on August 31. The states then implement that plan as they see fit.
The only thing that is being said by the states (that I looked at) so far is that brothels in NRW and Hesse are not allowed to open at this time. There's nothing announced on what requirements will be set when they do open.
Right now I know that there are independent girls still working and that after a court case in NRW that Tantric massages are allowed so there are some studios in the state that have reopened.
https://www.thelocal.de/20200525/germany-plans-to-extend-social-distancing-rules-until-july-5th
What will happen after July 5?
Germany has extended the social distancing requirement until June 29 after several eastern states rebelled at it being July 5.
https://www.thelocal.de/20200525/germany-plans-to-extend-social-distancing-rules-until-july-5th
What will happen after July 5?FKKs open for business, no social distancing required.
I thought Austria was ahead for opening in July, but Switzerland may open in June. Maybe NL and Spain on September. We already have street WGs with no mask since 12 May and escorts with no mask never stopped in Paris.
Some ingenious entrepreneur probably from China or India is going to come up with a mask with a dam in the mouth area for kissing, blow job and DATY. Hey, I probably should work on that myself, make a ton of money and use that money to pay the girls extra not to use it.You're late to the party!
https://www.businessinsider.com/remote-controlled-face-mask-worn-while-eating-2020-5?r=US&IR=T
.... we already have street WGs with no mask since 12 May and escorts with no mask never stopped in Paris.La Grande Nation est always ahead the curve not only in fashion but also in passion.
You're late to the party!
https://www.businessinsider.com/remote-controlled-face-mask-worn-while-eating-2020-5?r=US&IR=TWhen you open the mask to eat more than just food can get in. Defeats the purpose for wearing a mask.
The mask I'm working on has a dental dam in the mouth area for kissing, DATY and what not.
La Grande Nation est always ahead the curve not only in fashion but also in passion.When already Summer in Paris, some street WGs have sexy short dress, under sun. I don't go close enough to see face, but sexy body, but I don't know how they work? In car? In the wood? When I refuse some bad rooms in clubs. I think this is very difficult job.
After Paris with street WGs with no mask on 12 May, I thought Austria was ahead, but Switzerland won the race to explode R0 , with some clubs opening on 6 June. Just have to see about casting when business is also Romania in Switzerland, and level of services of course, kissing with mask?
Austria plan to open on July.
Kel Varnsen
06-04-20, 21:26
That detestable regulation which is currently keeping Hessen clubs closed is set to expire on July 5th (https://www.rv.hessenrecht.hessen.de/bshe/document/jlr-CoronaVKBBeschrVHEV3P2).
Of course it wouldn't come as a huge shock if this date prolonged. However, given the opening of clubs in both Austria and CH within the next month, I'm more optimistic than ever that German clubs can also open during this summer, especially if clubs in the other countries don't turn out to be virus hot spots when they reopen.
That being said, I read a notice on the Spiegel live feed today that a lawsuit by brothel owners in Saarland claiming that the closures are too onerus and hence unlawful, unfortunately had been unsuccessful.
Kel Varnsen
06-05-20, 02:53
Breaking news.
https://www.rheinpfalz.de/lokal/pfalz-ticker_artike,-neue-lockerungen-rheinland-pfalz-erlaubt-wieder-shisha-bars-und-bordelle-_arid,5072346.Html.
Clubs in Rehinland-Pfalz will be allowed to open again as soon as June 10th, provided they have the necessary hygiene concepts in place.
It almost seems too good to be true, especially when night clubs and discos still have to remain shut. And also, as far as I understand it, they will have to keep records of visitors for contact tracing purposes, which is not very appealing to many.
Rheinland-Pfalz isn't exactly an FKK paradise, with Finca being one of its better known clubs, but hopefully this is also a harbinger for things to come in the immediate neighbors to the north and east.
I would like to acknowledge that I just picked this information up on a German board and am not taking credit myself for breaking this news.
..........That being said, I read a notice on the Spiegel live feed today that a lawsuit by brothel owners in Saarland claiming that the closures are too onerus and hence unlawful, unfortunately had been unsuccessful.Not only onerous for the brothel owners, I'm carrying a heavy load in my balls.
I see that the turnover of contributors is as high as ever. As a welcome to some of these new names, I thought it might help if I cleared up a point which seems to be confusing some.
FKK Clubs are (in concept and to a lesser or greater degree) full of naked women. Saunaclubs are not to be confused with FKK. In these the women wear at least a bra and knickers (with a very few wearing no bra).
FKK means Freier Körper Kultur (forgive my German) and extends beyond FKK brothels. But that is another story.
It is clear that some of the new handles are from experienced attendee at clubs, so in this case, sorry to point out the obvious.
But for new attendees I hope this clarifies this one point.
Not many real FKK now. In NRW, sauna club Venus, Bab Elsdorf and Bernds. Not far from Koln and Koblenz, Finca. Hessen big clubs are losing FKK with more and more bra and fishnet. Many WGs seem to hide money they put in fake tits, maybe not silicon but gold, not to be proud to show their plastic balloons.
Kel Varnsen
06-08-20, 17:25
There will be no opening of brothels in Germany on June 10th. Looks like the government of Rheinland-Pfalz chickened out.
https://www.rheinpfalz.de/lokal/pfalz-ticker_artikel,-areckzieher-der-landesregierung-keine-ffnung-der-bordelle-_arid,5073541.Html.
ExpatLover
06-08-20, 18:37
Not many real FKK now. In NRW, sauna club Venus, Bab Elsdorf and Bernds. Not far from Koln and Koblenz, Finca. Hessen big clubs are losing FKK with more and more bra and fishnet. Many WGs seem to hide money they put in fake tits, maybe not silicon but gold, not to be proud to show their plastic balloons.
I propose a real FKK experience, man and woman fully naked, probably most of the guys will refuse, I many times walk nude in the FKK but for sure it will be hard for some guys even not able to shower naked to do the same, but when they go out the club they have big muscles, big car on credit. I am really not eager to see the new opening of the clubs, in the recent years too many changes occurred, less and less erotic around, too many 50 euros fuck guys around, very few beauties around.
Finca Erotica say for 12 June.
There will be no opening of brothels in Germany on June 10th. Looks like the government of Rheinland-Pfalz chickened out.
https://www.rheinpfalz.de/lokal/pfalz-ticker_artikel,-areckzieher-der-landesregierung-keine-ffnung-der-bordelle-_arid,5073541.Html.Thanks. No surprise I guess.
BigBuddy69
06-08-20, 20:47
I hope that the girls didn't buy their plane ticket.
I hope that the girls didn't buy their plane ticket.For sure some had arranged to be back at Finca. I feel really sorry for the ones stuck in Germany unable to work.
For sure some had arranged to be back at Finca. I feel really sorry for the ones stuck in Germany unable to work.When I gave more than 100 000 € in 7 years to Romania, but I worry so much more for many unemployed in France, or more than 40 millions unemployed or with no healthcare insurance in powerful US. Prostitution is way to make fast money, I don't say easy because I think very degrading, but this is not a real job, but kind of casino, you win, you lose. If you study at school, if You are able to learn and adapt during your life, then you should be able to have a real good job. Highest level Germans or Romanians don t work in brothels. What I really did appreciate, was who would become my best girl, told me she worked in a restaurant before, I was so happy when another girl told me she knew her before and confirmed me, and when she divorced, she couldn't live with so low salary, so she went to brothels, making in 1 month, more than what she would make in 3 years. A bit of interesting truth among so many boring lies and gossiping in couch. Reality is so much more interesting. With her first month earning, she could buy a car, not for her. WGs should understand this is not a normal job.
For those who are really in hurry with full painful balls, from 15 June inside Europe borders should open, before 19 June Globe may open, You can have some Globe girls for only 63 CHF = less than 60 €, at Swiss Dietikon west Zurich. Entry is 65 CHF with no foods but You can order from outside. Cheap Globe small brother, beautiful small club inside with jacuzzi, but I won t run for this casting even about 15 girls from Globe, but these looks are unfortunately what Globe became during 2019 , many plastic dolls, tits made of flesh are becoming like pandas, many GND, same like in Germany, no wow, no dream, so, no reason to pay for boring sex with no dream. Model type Hungarian Geraldine at Freubad North Bern already opened is much more interesting and little fire for a real woman in bed. But no hurry for me to return, I may start in NRW but out of brothels, for different experience, but I also enjoy so much to make my eyes smiling in wonderful France places. My eyes only love beauty.
............. Prostitution is way to make fast money, I don't say easy because I think very degrading,.............I don't think it is degrading for the girls all the time. If the girl goes with an old, ugly, fat, bald, bad smelling guy then it is degrading for the girl. I usually go with nicer girls when I am abroad but if at home sometimes due to limited choice I go with a fat, ugly girl I tend to feel degraded afterwards especially if I did some naughty things with her.
BigBuddy69
06-10-20, 16:28
It's not degrading as long as the customers respect them. They don't work in clubs to fuck male strippers. Of course if it's an arrogant jerk with a superiority complex who acts like a servile puppy when he's with them but talks shit about them as soon as it's over even though the lunatic spends his time with prostitutes because they are the only persons who show him a little bit of consideration, they must feel they're disrespected.
Kel Varnsen
06-10-20, 17:26
First RLP did a 180 on their plans to open the brothels again.
Then a legal case against the restrictions in Hessen was unsuccesful yesterday. More cases are pending but their chances are looking slim.
https://www.bild.de/regional/frankfurt/frankfurt-aktuell/verwaltungsgerichtshof-entscheidet-bordelle-bleiben-in-hessen-zu-71159410.bild.html
And then, as a final insult, the Hessen government today prolonged the closure of brothels until August 16th, see §§ 2 and 10:
https://www.hessen.de/sites/default/files/media/3cokobevstand15.06_0.pdf
Well, at least it saves me a lot of money.
MaxSquatter
06-10-20, 21:20
Hoping NRW has the good sense to open them up soon.
First RLP did a 180 on their plans to open the brothels again.
Then a legal case against the restrictions in Hessen was unsuccesful yesterday. More cases are pending but their chances are looking slim.
https://www.bild.de/regional/frankfurt/frankfurt-aktuell/verwaltungsgerichtshof-entscheidet-bordelle-bleiben-in-hessen-zu-71159410.bild.html
And then, as a final insult, the Hessen government today prolonged the closure of brothels until August 16th, see 2 and 10:
https://www.hessen.de/sites/default/files/media/3cokobevstand15.06_0.pdf
Well, at least it saves me a lot of money.
the Hessen government today prolonged the closure of brothels until August 16th, see 2 and 10:
.Now, what will happen to Hessen FKK Girl's, if Swiss FKK are open in June, Austria in July , othor german areas maybe July , I guess girls will not wait for Sharks and Oase to re-open, they will find somewhere else!!
Anyone knows? This will be a blow for Sharks.
Now, what will happen to Hessen FKK Girl's, if Swiss FKK are open in June, Austria in July , othor german areas maybe July , I guess girls will not wait for Sharks and Oase to re-open, they will find somewhere else!!
Anyone knows? This will be a blow for Sharks.Except for few at Globe, business is falling in Switzerland, even before virus, and will more now with less foreigners. When guys will have empty balls, not so many can afford Swiss rates and Swiss who have higher salary are not numerous enough. Not so many clubs in Austria and they may accept less girls than before. Girls should stay at home and enjoy with family, you don't need big money to live in Romania, if you don't go to hotels in Mamaia. Incredible, I was told by a Romanian guy who works for me, he knew when Ceaucescu, then he could go everywhere in cheap Romania, now cheapest Mamaia hotels would be 200 € per night, so he can't afford anymore and I never pay any hotel in France or Italy for 200 €, even on famous Azur cost in Nice on angels bay or english promenade, I paid only 66 € on last week end and 48 € in my mountains for good ACCOR hotels with big bed. Ski resort near Brasov seem also too expensive for me, when I paid hotel in Taesch Zermatt 80 CHF, but now, with Swiss robbers administration, I will go to Matterhorn from Breuil. It which is the most interesting side.
I don't think it is degrading for the girls all the time. If the girl goes with an old, ugly, fat, bald, bad smelling guy then it is degrading for the girl. I usually go with nicer girls when I am abroad but if at home sometimes due to limited choice I go with a fat, ugly girl I tend to feel degraded afterwards especially if I did some naughty things with her.When I think I can claim to be prettiest girls weekly repeating specialist and they return to me for real facts when others, even Germans or locals, have to wait, I remember reading some girls at LR, GT, Sharks, Globe, were impossible to catch, full busy, but they came to me as soon they saw me, as first choice, to start their day with relaxing and safe room, because I know how You treat me as told Hessen legend and Globe busy superstar Katalina, when I stopped room at LR to give her time to eat pizza because she had noisy belly and told me she didn't have time to eat, she looked at me and told: nobody behave like You, but I don t ask many questions to girls except where they come from and what they did before brothels, not much because I don t find them so interesting to talk, compare to normal women, but, when they feel safe, they really need to tell, even mostly lies, but they really need to speak, to ask what we think about them, if we find them pretty, what is our job, married, why not married, if we go with other girls, what we do, You do the same with others? Many ask me, and some saying: I don't want you go with other girls, when most of these are the busiest with many other clients waiting for them. But except few Germans who will never discover hot water, I don t remember any Romanian princess type, those who interest me, telling me she liked to be fucked by everybody, I heard much more often: at what time you want we repeat to organize for you. But I saw many degrading their look with tattoos, acid, Botox, silicon, taking cocaine to resist, becoming like kind of stolen car, and degrading behavior losing elegance and charm. Not really sure they are so proud when they look at what became their own image, when I'm proud about mine. Not sure, Romanian little girls wish for this when they are asked at school what they want to become. But of course, we see, notice and experience and girls behave with us from who we are, but same experience for me in any club, most difficult only being to find a attractive one, but easy to make beauties returning to me. Beauties like to feel woman and they feel how I love women. I let prostitutes to others, many are excited by such behavior, girls touching your dick or rubbing on you, when I just feel they dirty me, when even with my weekly regulars who run to me as soon they see me, I never touch their ass or tits or pussy in public. My respect for the woman.
It's not degrading as long as the customers respect them. They don't work in clubs to fuck male strippers. Of course if it's an arrogant jerk with a superiority complex who acts like a servile puppy when he's with them but talks shit about them as soon as it's over even though the lunatic spends his time with prostitutes because they are the only persons who show him a little bit of consideration, they must feel they're disrespected.One's feelings cannot and should not be hurt by someone who is a nobody to them. If I am walking past HbF and a crazy, homeless person starts to insult me, I just keep walking. If said disrespectful monger is someone she considers a loser, she will not be offended by his insults.
WGs, some of them, may have been among the prettiest girls in their village or city. If she went to school with a thousand people, all of them would recognize her, but she may not have any idea who some of them are. Compound this with the fact that these young girls grow up on social media, and this even adds to them experiencing life as a minor celebrities. So these WGs probably grew up with real "haters", not imagined ones. Her inbox is probably filled with thousands of messages. Many of which she will never have time to read. Ten percent may be messages of pure hate and jealousy. My point is her reality is different because her life experiences are different to that of the "disrespectful" mongers you speak of: (1) many persons show her consideration (2) she is a different generation, and (3) for every one hater, she has nine fans who worship her. If you are someone who has a completely opposite life experience, then every hateful message stings that much more.
Regardless of your political affiliation, we can probably all agree POTUS is a "winner" in life. Based on how quickly he retaliates on Twitter, we can also assume that he is a person who gets easily offended. That said, he only cares when other prominent people are taking shots at him. Somebody like me who is a nobody with zero social media following is NOT going to compel him to frantically reply to me and bang the keyboard in anger!
That said, he only cares when other prominent people are taking shots at him. Somebody like me who is a nobody with zero social media following is NOT going to compel him to frantically reply to me and bang the keyboard in anger!Don't be so sure. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-29406803.
Polyamorist
06-12-20, 00:52
That said, he only cares when other prominent people are taking shots at him. Somebody like me who is a nobody with zero social media following is NOT going to compel him to frantically reply to me and bang the keyboard in anger!
Don't be so sure. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-29406803.And just today: https://www.golfmagic.com/golf-news/donald-trump-offers-play-golf-fan-twitter-he-refuses.
Not a winner.
Polyamorist
06-12-20, 01:14
And then, as a final insult, the Hessen government today prolonged the closure of brothels until August 16th, see §§ 2 and 10:
https://www.hessen.de/sites/default/...and15.06_0.pdf
So maybe I was wrong about FKKs opening sooner rather than later. It's whenever I see those §§§§§§s, I know some snakes are gonna bite my balls.
Japanese girls vs Romanians? In term of service, and in general terms, Japanese are way ahead. You may have, rarely, "ordinary service" in a soapland, but far less often than in an FKK. Although, of course, exceptions make the rule true. Standard service in Japanese soapland, is hardly ever reached in an FKK. Maybe a few of my old experiences in Bernd's were not that far.
I don't know if I ever thanked you Mr Dreams for your answers to my questions about Japan. If anybody is tired of the German government pussyfooting around and playing dice with our hormones, if anybody is finding that their July FKK plans have been ruined, why not vote with your dollars and show the Bundestag they do not have a monopoly on sex in the world.
if anybody is finding that their July FKK plans have been ruined, why not vote with your dollars and show the Bundestag they do not have a monopoly on sex in the world.Everyone is going to have to wait until a preferred destination opens their doors and it becomes reachable. Germany is still my best bet as I expect the FKK's to open by August 31 at the latest, that being the first day when social distancing was planned to end. Then I will be looking at how Thailand is opening it's doors as I'd prefer Pattaya but the Thai government looks as if they will only be allowing Chinese and ASEAN nations this year.
Not only Germany. I don t know many beautiful clubs like Freubad, Wellcum and Andiamo, in Germany, which can compete for garden with swimming pool and foods. Only Vanila, Atmos, Sharks, Oase and World. Girls making strip tease tours on bar at Freubad, my eyes smiling in Wellcum garden watching wonderful Carinthian mountains. I also don t know many German towns which can compete with wonderful cultural Vienna, when Germany is I think risky brothels land attracting from all over the world, to manage R0 for German administration. Switzerland is opening, Austria on July, Summer already started for me.
One's feelings cannot and should not be hurt by someone who is a nobody to them.
If said disrespectful monger is someone she considers a loser, she will not be offended by his insults.
WGs, some of them, may have been among the prettiest girls in their village or city. If she went to school with a thousand people, all of them would recognize her, but she may not have any idea who some of them are. Compound this with the fact that these young girls grow up on social media, and this even adds to them experiencing life as a minor celebrities. So these WGs probably grew up with real "haters".We don't all have same experience with girls and for sure and can be easily seen in clubs, they don't behave the same with all of us. I know a very sweet girl since 2015, she is really quiet and sweet, I saw her being fucked in public at Globe, I was surprised because she always ask me for private, girls don't want to have public sex with me, but it was not a problem for me because she was not my target, I didn't tell her anything, but when she saw me after, she had a so violent reaction in front of many other girls, I didn't answer anything because I had nothing to answer, but I felt how she was hurt I saw her being fucked, she came 1 hour later, telling: I don't want problem with you because I know how you always treated me, really not her usual behavior, but a hurt woman, when I m nothing anymore in her Globe income. At LR, I was amazed desk still ask me if I was waiting for my ex when I stopped since 1 year and went only for Daniela, but of course like I didn't go to German Lisa in front of her on the Friday evening she arrived at LR, and had to wait about 3 hours to get Lisa, I would never have gone with Daniela if I knew before how Romania is so small, but Daniela was a really good surprise and I enjoyed when she prepared me sandwich before I drove whole night, is it girls business to cook for clients? But despite my critics about behaving in very different way compare to claiming, but no interest to hurt her with another girl, when she always told me she didn't want I go with other girls, when she had many clients waiting for her and some who couldn't catch her, when she always came to me. Of course I feel better with beauties than average looks and girls should feel this.
https://www.golfmagic.com/golf-news/donald-trump-offers-play-golf-fan-twitter-he-refuses
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-29406803.Thanks for the links. Rather amusing. I am forced to re-evaluate my original statement. Someone who is a "nobody" with zero social following would not compel the POTUS to respond with anger, unless the content was clever enough to go viral. The guy who duped POTUS into retweet serial killers was pure genius, and POTUS may have felt embarrassed because it would have been seen by millions on the platform. The other post is more inline with my original point. Golfer called POTUS a "despicable human being". POTUS simply blocked the nobody golfer, but POTUS did not bother to respond. Although, who knows, maybe POTUS will eventually fire back. The golfer screen shotted and shared the DM. Looks like number of likes, retweets, and comments have been growing!
We don't all have same experience with girls and for sure and can be easily seen in clubs, they don't behave the same with all of us. I know a very sweet girl since 2015, she is really quiet and sweet, I saw her being fucked in public at Globe, I was surprised because she always ask me for private, girls don't want to have public sex with me, but it was not a problem for me because she was not my target, I didn't tell her anything, but when she saw me after, she had a so violent reaction in front of many other girls, I didn't answer anything because I had nothing to answer, but I felt how she was hurt I saw her being fucked, she came 1 hour later, telling: I don't want problem with you because I know how you always treated me, really not her usual behavior, but a hurt woman, when I m nothing anymore in her Globe income. At LR, I was amazed desk still ask me if I was waiting for my ex when I stopped since 1 year and went only for Daniela, but of course like I didn't go to German Lisa in front of her on the Friday evening she arrived at LR, and had to wait about 3 hours to get Lisa, I would never have gone with Daniela if I knew before how Romania is so small, but Daniela was a really good surprise and I enjoyed when she prepared me sandwich before I drove whole night, is it girls business to cook for clients? But despite my critics about behaving in very different way compare to claiming, but no interest to hurt her with another girl, when she always told me she didn't want I go with other girls, when she had many clients waiting for her and some who couldn't catch her, when she always came to me. Of course I feel better with beauties than average looks and girls should feel this.I could add Katalina who was for long time in business, a Hessen and Globe superstar, I had to wait for 6 hours to get her free for our discovery on a Monday evening at Sharks, when I first saw her at 2.15 pm, but crying on our discovery room when I told her something about her private life, her inside pressure went out when she felt safe. Maybe why she told me when she saw me at Globe 3 months later: because I remember how You treated me, a bad French guy making crying her, but I think it was good crying for her mind when she missed her little life gift. Another one cried but she was angry I told about too much pressure in this business, too stressing for her. Also funny some girls run after You like Lucifer. De on a Saturday evening on January 2018 at GT, when so many guys waited for her, and I was not interested to return after Palace when I left, but she didn't forget Palace. Just funny to see girls behaving from what are guys. Usually guys have to go to choose girls, but some girls choose you, even at GT or Velbert. I remember one becoming mad on April 2017 at Velbert, but only because we didn't understand each other on that evening when she was busy as always, of course, I would have chosen her for first choice for my best pleasure, to enjoy her with no rush, for 1 hour as always, never been finished like a rabbit. Different experiences, I'm happy to be different.
Poly: Wellcum opens on July 1st.
Schengen area open tomorrow, but Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Turkey, Ukraine, UK, Ireland, are not in Schengen.
We were just told in France, we will be allowed to move out of Schengen on 1 July, so maybe people from outside can enter? Wait and see.
Business have to wake up, I don't mean for brothels I don't care about, but for employment.
Some vaccine may be produced for October, by UK AstraZeneca competing with US Moderna, but I won't run for vaccine, maybe more risky than virus.
And just today: https://www.golfmagic.com/golf-news/donald-trump-offers-play-golf-fan-twitter-he-refuses.
Not a winner.Damn, what I've learned is that Donald Trump is actually a great guy.
ExpatLover
06-15-20, 08:28
Schengen area open tomorrow, but Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Turkey, Ukraine, UK, Ireland, are not in Schengen.
We were just told in France, we will be allowed to move out of Schengen on 1 July, so maybe people from outside can enter? Wait and see.
Business have to wake up, I don't mean for brothels I don't care about, but for employment.
Some vaccine may be produced for October, by UK AstraZeneca competing with US Moderna, but I won't run for vaccine, maybe more risky than virus.
DK, NL, Hungary, . Are in Shengen but still don t open, same for Spain. I am more and more thinking that before September nothing will come back to normal.
Switzerland already opened, Austria on July, and most important and attractive for me: Tignes, to run to ski.
An ISGer in Vienna thread reports that GT Vienna is considering the implementation of a 4-5 hour time limit on the entry. If the clubs are force to operate under capacity, implementing a time limit would allow them to process a queue of clients who might be waiting outside the door. It would allow the club to make more money off of entries. And give WGs more fresh horny clients. It could also reduce blue balls for the clients who aren't the type to show up as soon as the club opens.
I know some mongers like to stay in the club 12 to 18 hours. Not sure if this idea would spread to German or Swiss clubs.
Switzerland already opened, Austria on July, and most important and attractive for me: Tignes, to run to ski.After emptying balls rush, small Swiss clubs and not many are opened yet, are already less crowded, so when 2 big, Globe which is number 1 and Amesia will open on Friday, when Swiss are not enough for business, Germans don't move from their garden, no Asians, should not be so crowded, I think Italians will be very welcome. Will be kind of same in Austria after first days rush. Should be less girls in clubs because of limitation of people, but I don t think clubs will be so crowded on this Summer, except maybe Wellcum with Italians. Girls may be fresh after 3 months holidays and quite free, but I want same love in bed than before. Look forward finding a new beauty, introducing always with same manners, then adapting to her, to experience what I can receive in this new business. New game.
LeyenLouvain
06-18-20, 12:17
An ISGer in Vienna thread reports that GT Vienna is considering the implementation of a 4-5 hour time limit on the entry. Interesting. I hope they would be reducing it from 90 euro! Which doesn't even include Red Bull or the solarium :(
Interesting. I hope they would be reducing it from 90 euro! Which doesn't even include Red Bull or the solarium.I won t pay 90 for 4/5 hours when I often need a lot of time to choose a girl, when I don t like to rush, why I prefer my regulars to come to me, better for me. When GT Vienna business model should change with less tourists and Asians, when Austrians are not enough, when Germans don t go out of their garden, when Vienna is quite far from Italy when Carinthia with number 1 Wellcum is closer, not so sure GT will be so crowded after first few days rush to empty balls. On last evening, some girls were hunting, coming at small Swiss Dietikon, but even after 3 months and only 6 escorts meetings, I was not attracted. I think this break will make it much more difficult for me, I will really need a wow princess beauty to be able.
Interesting. I hope they would be reducing it from 90 euro! Which doesn't even include Red Bull or the solarium :(For NRW or Hessen, a price reduction combined with a 5 hour time limit wouldn't be so bad. But the price would have to be dropped to 30 euro or so for it to be a good deal, and I am not sure they would be willing to do that.
For Vienna not so much, as the options there are less interesting. And the prices are higher. GT Vienna is already stretching it far enough as it is with their 90 euro entrance fee. At a point where I'd only go there if I flew into Vienna on the way elsewhere. Or if this one petite brunette would be working. And I believe she may have quit now.
If 6 ens really open on 1 July, will become capital of Germany. Club is OK, foods are OK, but casting is usually low level for looks, but maybe some NRW WGs will move for business. Let's see. Entry 50 before 2 pm, 50/30 .
For NRW or Hessen, a price reduction combined with a 5 hour time limit wouldn't be so bad. But the price would have to be dropped to 30 euro or so for it to be a good deal, and I am not sure they would be willing to do that.
For Vienna not so much, as the options there are less interesting. And the prices are higher. GT Vienna is already stretching it far enough as it is with their 90 euro entrance fee. At a point where I'd only go there if I flew into Vienna on the way elsewhere. Or if this one petite brunette would be working. And I believe she may have quit now.The 5 hour time limit should only be on the busiest days, perhaps Saturday and Sunday.
For her fans who miss her, German with tattooed left arm Alexi GT, is at Amesia ex Bumsalp, as Kira. She is nice when You take her out of other girls.
Girls will move on this Summer which should be good. Good start for climbing and already some really good girls enjoyed.
For fans, German tattooed Mio is on tour at Globe. About 5 German at Globe.
ExpatLover
06-27-20, 06:53
Reply from EL: as I wrote it last week, the highway around Vienna is full of Mercedes, Audi, Porsche. With Romanian plates packed with for sure P6 girls coming back to Italy, Germany, France, Spain, always in company of guys.
Many WGs from Germany are trying in Switzerland at the moment like ex Ariana Sharks for who remember her on 2016, but business is so low now, because many guys don t want to have to write ID and phone to enter clubs. No problem for me, I can even show, same like for free entry on birthday in Germany.
For fans, tall model type even silicon but a bit of chic, at least when she is with me, Anita returned to GT, but Vienna, where she came from. She came straight to me, saying: You don t recognize me? New way for hair, but still lovely and in bed, she remember very well my way for sex. Some here just make me laugh when real facts talk, and same everywhere, versus jealous bullshit. I wonder how will be if I found my LR ex elsewhere, I think should be a good cat dog game on pillow.
Many WGs from Germany are trying in Switzerland at the momentAnd not just in Switzerland or Austria. I was in E92 in Spain on Friday night and saw 2 girls I have previously seen in FKK Oase. I spoke to them both and they said they had only moved to Spain to work but much preferred it. Late breakfast, sunbathing on the beach most of the afternoon, using the gym in the club early evenings, dinner then working in the night. Healthier, sunny, and work available. If the authorities in Germany keep their FKKs closed for much longer I fear the girls will all find other countries more to their liking. The two girls said they had called friends from Oase and several were headed to Spain next week from their home countries to try it out. Germany's losses are Spanish / Swiss / Austrian gains. As prostitution is legal in Germany and therefore generates income for its economy, the German insistence on compliance with every rule might just very much weaken the stream of income from this profession. I know that might be a political move (to embrace the Nordic model in Germany) but it is actually working. The two girls I spoke to from Oase (I actually recognised one more than the other from a tattoo I remembered) made it clear to me that they would not now return to Germany even if Oase opened. They preferred the lifestyle, the sun, and much better to have to fuck fewer guys for €150/ hour or €220 in Scandalos (another club in Spain) than have to go to many room, suck and fuck many dicks all day and night for €50 per time.
I genuinely am starting to fear that the social desire in Germany to play this safely (or political desire to keep FKKs closed) will very seriously see the decline or closure of many FKKs. Which would be a terrible shame. I love Spain and its way of life but I also really enjoy the FKK environment. I hope they survive. But the longer they stay closed, the more the girls will find other ways, and locations to work. And may not return.
HammerTime96
07-12-20, 08:53
I genuinely am starting to fear that the social desire in Germany to play this safely (or political desire to keep FKKs closed) will very seriously see the decline or closure of many FKKs. Which would be a terrible shame. I love Spain and its way of life but I also really enjoy the FKK environment. I hope they survive. But the longer they stay closed, the more the girls will find other ways, and locations to work. And may not return.That perfectly sums up your post and I agree for the most part with your post. As the saying goes: "never let a crisis go to waste," and I think that besides health concerns, there are also many political motives to keeping prostitution forbidden. One part could be the radical feminists who have been wanting to outlaw prostitution for years and now have an opportunity for "health reasons," and who want to push German clubs into bankruptcy. Another part could be that many politicians typically don't want to admit that they were wrong in March, and that the disastrous lockdowns barely had an effect, except for completely destroying the economy. As temperatures rise, windows open, fresh air enters, people are more outside, and the virus barely has a chance. However, real proof that the "Swedish model" works will be in autumn and winter 2020-2021.
Some girls will find work in Spain, Austria and Switzerland and will stay for money and lifestyle, but I doubt that all those clubs will be able to absorb the many thousands of women who work in the P6 scene in Germany unless these countries rapidly build 10-15 FKK clubs the size of Sharks. Perhaps some giant version of "Musical Chairs" will happen, as the more attractive girls will settle in Spain, Austria, Switzerland, and the more ugly ones are pushed out of work in these countries and will move to Germany IF (everything opens again there.
I agree though that time is running out for Germany, and they seem to have missed the time window for opening clubs during the summer and keeping girls committed to working in Germany. How long can clubs survive without revenue? Girls with their "boyfriends" are more flexible and only need a airplane ticket and a suitcase, but you can't just move an entire building + garden like Sharks or GT to Spain, Austria or Switzerland.
TeaInTheSun
07-12-20, 12:19
And not just in Switzerland or Austria. I was in E92 in Spain on Friday night and saw 2 girls I have previously seen in FKK Oase. I spoke to them both and they said they had only moved to Spain to work but much preferred it. Late breakfast, sunbathing on the beach most of the afternoon, using the gym in the club early evenings, dinner then working in the night. Healthier, sunny, and work available. If the authorities in Germany keep their FKKs closed for much longer I fear the girls will all find other countries more to their liking. The two girls said they had called friends from Oase and several were headed to Spain next week from their home countries to try it out. Germany's losses are Spanish / Swiss / Austrian gains. As prostitution is legal in Germany and therefore generates income for its economy, the German insistence on compliance with every rule might just very much weaken the stream of income from this profession. I know that might be a political move (to embrace the Nordic model in Germany) but it is actually working. The two girls I spoke to from Oase (I actually recognised one more than the other from a tattoo I remembered) made it clear to me that they would not now return to Germany even if Oase opened. They preferred the lifestyle, the sun, and much better to have to fuck fewer guys for 150/ hour or 220 in Scandalos (another club in Spain) than have to go to many room, suck and fuck many dicks all day and night for 50 per time.
I genuinely am starting to fear that the social desire in Germany to play this safely (or political desire to keep FKKs closed) will very seriously see the decline or closure of many FKKs. Which would be a terrible shame. I love Spain and its way of life but I also really enjoy the FKK environment. I hope they survive. But the longer they stay closed, the more the girls will find other ways, and locations to work. And may not return.This pandemic is probably changing everything but Romania and other "similar" countries, they are still in Europe and will continue providing us new beauties. Maybe we are going to miss some familiar faces, but nothing lasts forever, especially for mongers who think in a "smart" way, although thinking deeply I will miss a bit just one girl from Oase. Adina / Marina aka for everyone. We leave pending things to do.
TeaInTheSun
07-12-20, 12:24
For fans, tall model type even silicon but a bit of chic, at least when she is with me, Anita returned to GT, but Vienna, where she came from. She came straight to me, saying: You don t recognize me? New way for hair, but still lovely and in bed, she remember very well my way for sex. Some here just make me laugh when real facts talk, and same everywhere, versus jealous bullshit. I wonder how will be if I found my LR ex elsewhere, I think should be a good cat dog game on pillow.I think I don't envy you for being there, but take good care Sir! There are many other things to do. Stay healthy!
BigBuddy69
07-12-20, 14:36
Addicts usually have very restricted interests.
I think I don't envy you for being there, but take good care Sir! There are many other things to do. Stay healthy!You are right to take care of your health, but life learned me maybe tomorrow I will be detected incurable cancer or die, when after leaving Globe and even in Switzerland for snails, lost 3 times grip on autobahn with prepared around quattro to improve car balance and grip, but did really worth the run to GT Vienna, despite real wall of rain all along, autobahns in Germany which are real nightmare, but so happy to see again Anita I like for her fragile woman type and what a welcome, after she explained me about GT, had a GT and Vienna by night wow time with 3 beauties. Better casting for me who love woman types than porn Globe and when management is unfortunately killing Amesia casting. Iranian wow look and aura told me after our magic bloody fire discovery, don t spend all your money, I think meaning once more: don t go with others. Really did worth to experience this great time, for sex like at home, only thing I told girls before room and then making the job for this. Real enjoyment they followed my way.
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It is likely that some women who work in Europe will go to Spain to work because it is already working normally, but that situation will only last in the summer, from September they will have to return to Europe if they want to earn money, Spain is very bad economically while in Germany or the Netherlands there is more money to spend on women.
Some women are likely to go to Spain to work, but that situation will not last long, only the summer season. Now in Spain there are many tourists and they spend money but from September the situation will change. Spain is very bad economically. Women will have to go back to Europe to work, in central Europe there is much more money to spend on women.
ExpatLover
07-14-20, 04:34
Do you really believe that the prostitutes and club owner are the priority for the German government? Covid will completely change the P6 scene in Europe, probably a huge decrease in the offer and a drastic reduction of the number of mongers, so many can t enter Europe, and the European guys are very careful and don t want to take risk for a little bit sex. Switzerland opened the brothels and FKK, but the business is not good, that is the reality.
ExpatLover
07-14-20, 04:42
Yes sunbathing from October to April in Spain: let us be a bit serious so many girls already worked in Spain, they have to face a lot of mafia there, the girls don t feel as safe as in Germany specially if you don t have strong BF or pimps with you. In Spain, the police will do nothing to protect the girls, also a lot of drugs around. Sorry but that is the reality.
Do you really believe that the prostitutes and club owner are the priority for the German government? Covid will completely change the P6 scene in Europe, probably a huge decrease in the offer and a drastic reduction of the number of mongers, so many can t enter Europe, and the European guys are very careful and don t want to take risk for a little bit sex. Switzerland opened the brothels and FKK, but the business is not good, that is the reality.They are not the priority, but politicians also like working girls, I want to be positive, HIV did not end with sex in the 80's, the Covid-19 will not do it now, it is true that this year and the next they will be very bad for this business and there will not be many women from Asia or America but we still have European women.
ExpatLover
07-14-20, 19:16
HIV was not the same problem, it was easily possible to be 100% safe and go home the head quiet, not the same for the COVID, it is always the story of the traceability, movies from the parking slot, if any cluster pop up it will be very difficult for the married guys or the one in a long term relation to explain what they were doing in a FKK.
Some women are likely to go to Spain to work, but that situation will not last long, only the summer season. Now in Spain there are many tourists and they spend money but from September the situation will change. Spain is very bad economically. Women will have to go back to Europe to work, in central Europe there is much more money to spend on women.As far I know, Spain is in EU, number 3 for tourism in the world when France is number 1. Germans, NL, love Spain, but I agree this business is not anymore good in most Spain parts, but at least, Spain is better for holidays, quality of life and a bit of business, than closed Germany. When Germany will open, most girls will return to home brothels.
ItsMyHobby91
07-15-20, 13:49
Was there last fall, did the 99 euro for 21 tickets at both locations. It was amazing. Fucked 2 at the first, ans two at the second. 4 shots in 3 hours. I don't speak German, so the girls just came around and asked if I wanted to fuck. One asked if I wanted to go to a room, or fuck in the open. Next time, the open!
In Germany dying on average about 2500 people every day. 2500 Every day and some of them go to hell. Via RKI gang with their pet doctor president, 4 people died yesterday (31.8.2020) who had a positive PCR Test. These 4 dead people were on average 80 years of age and usually had multiple other diseases. Nobody knows if they died because of the killer sars-cov2 virus. Dying in the age of 80 is just normal in Germany. With or without the little * Corona.
I don't deny exceptions. Very rare exceptions. The best die young, only bots living till someone turns of the electricity.
This world wide used PCR Test, made in Germany (does not mean quality), has a false positive rate of about 1 (some non mainstream doctors say up to 1.4) percent. As a comparison, if you let 1000 men pee on a pregnancy test, you have about 3 to 4 positive results. Men who are pregnant? Not possible, means tests are false positive.
Since about June 2020 Germany increased the number of the PCR Tests massively to "fight" the virus. Last week they testet more than 900.000 people, mainly healthy people coming from vacation, had a wedding party or nurses who have not much to do in empty hospitals.
Some of these people are forced to get tested. They are forced.
With other words, Germany is running out of infections and their are testing and testing to keep the "panicdemic" going with false positive tests to back up their dictatorship measures and of course to make test industry rich. Even system journalist and their writing teams say, the dictatorship in Germany is not as bad as those in Belarus or China. These are the Germans, taking down others to lift them self up. Germany has the best dictatorship of them all.
Look, I had rice yesterday and the name of my toilette is Horst.
Right now less than 300 (three hundred!) people are laying in German hospitals who had a positive PCR test and other diseases.
All in all not much to worry about. But what are traditional quality media are doing? They are running a mass media thunder and lightning war. Dangerous danger everywhere, you have to be scared, you have to follow them, all together, if not you are crazy and violating the system. Logic.
Even monger boards pushing corona, masks, tracing apps, vaccine and bringing discredit to people who have a different pov.
But they don't get paid for. Really, they are getting paid by closed clubs. Quite tough these days not to loose a LOL.
Superfluous or something deep in your throat, choose wisely.
Yes, much less deaths now almost everywhere and in my France, about 10 daily deaths now, not more than for any infection, when we had few days in April with around 800 deaths, even 90% were older than 65. More cases because more tests now, also 900 000 per week in France, virus is losing strength, but people at risk are still at risk, when Sweden didn't protect their old people and many died. If we don t protect for weak people, they will keep on dying. On the other hand, pharma labos which are spending a lot of money and also some governments aim to make money selling future vaccines. If virus is over, no need for vaccine for many healthy, but only weak, and not enough money back for pharma labos. Pharma is business, but no rushing vaccine for me, more risky than covid for me. But brothels, with old or fat or diabetic visiting, can kill and also relatives at home.
HammerTime96
09-02-20, 08:07
Even monger boards pushing corona, masks, tracing apps, vaccine and bringing discredit to people who have a different pov.
But they don't get paid for. Really, they are getting paid by closed clubs. Quite tough these days not to loose a LOL.
Superfluous or something deep in your throat, choose wisely.Amen!
These Covidiots are pushing for masks, tracking apps and vaccines, but funny enough they don't seem to mind rimming or DFK-ing a girl who just received a CIM or gave rim-job to another customer! Oh the irony, LOL!
Think about the madness: people pleading for masks and social distancing, with hookers, on a monger board! Hahahaha! They have really shown their cards, and if they are so afraid of catching a disease, I really wonder why they visit FKKs or visit prostitutes. Wrap yourselves in plastic and face masks and get married, it's MUCH safer, LOL!
But you're probably right, many of those people pushing this have thousands of posts here, so they get some free entrance deals to preach their "vaccine" gospel? I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps the German Intelligence Agency or another intelligence agency is involved, similar to the way Epstein ran his operation: what a blackmail goldmine this would provide for spies and all sorts of rich and shady characters when they can track anyone's FKK visit with a hacked Covid19 tracking app!
..............Think about the madness: people pleading for masks and social distancing, with hookers, on a monger board! Hahahaha! They have really shown their cards, and if they are so afraid of catching a disease, I really wonder why they visit FKKs or visit prostitutes. .....................When one has an erection all ones beliefs go out the window.
The thing about this corona is that it will always mutate. So it will be like the seasonal flu. Some years will be worse than other years. And vaccines will be good or great only for the closest mutated versions.
So yeah, good luck if you like that flu shot every year, but I will skip it myself. Enjoy the guillian barre syndromes if the vaccine got rushed out as well. Or ME / CFS.
Then again, it is just the beginning of a decade that will bring many news headlines with it. Economy will be strained, and a capitalistic system will always lag behind. Because the central banks either have poor judgement, or have ulterior agendas. Personally I believe they just have too many old senile people not able to follow the new world we are living in.
The thing about this corona is that it will always mutate. So it will be like the seasonal flu. Some years will be worse than other years. And vaccines will be good or great only for the closest mutated versions.Not necessarily. The past coronavirus, SARS, became extinct.
LaBambaBoy
09-03-20, 14:12
The thing about this corona is that it will always mutate. So it will be like the seasonal flu. Some years will be worse than other years. And vaccines will be good or great only for the closest mutated versions.This appears to be not true. Covid mutates exceeding slowly, and the mutations seem to be non-impactful. It behaves more like Mumps, Rubella, Measles, which also mutate slowly (compared to a fast mover like the flu). We've had vaccinations for these for 40+ years and only need them infrequently.
Not necessarily. The past coronavirus, SARS, became extinct.Sars and mers did not have petri dish gain of function tweaks to the Ace 2 receptor nor a furin cleavage.
Paradise Sarrebrucken may open on 7 September, for sex with mask? Like in Venezia? How does it work at Artemis? Also mask in bed, with a hole to kiss?
Not many clubs are open in Germany, so it may be more a problem in Austria and Switzerland when they are also Romania land, but my guys were blocked on Hungarian border when coming back from holidays at home in Romania. Not only pimps in Romania, there are also courageous guys, even a bit difficult to communicate and about french laws. I like when one tells me what was his better life at home under Ceacescu than so expensive now like 200 per night at Mamaia. Also not only pimps for German girls for Turkish, but courageous guys and also for Turkish Kurds.
Not many clubs are open in Germany, so it may be more a problem in Austria and Switzerland when they are also Romania land, but my guys were blocked on Hungarian border when coming back from holidays at home in Romania. Not only pimps in Romania, there are also courageous guys, even a bit difficult to communicate and about french laws. I like when one tells me what was his better life at home under Ceacescu than so expensive now like 200 per night at Mamaia. Also not only pimps for German girls for Turkish, but courageous guys and also for Turkish Kurds.Even have now a 20's Romanian woman just arrived from Romania working quite difficult job. First time I ever see a woman doing this job. Good, not all Romanian women are in brothels.
Bertie Wooster
09-27-20, 17:23
Looks like my business trip to Stuttgart next week won't be as fun, was hoping the clubs in Baden-Wrttemberg were going to open;.
https://www.stimme.de/suedwesten/nachrichten/pl/oeffnung-der-bordelle-nicht-in-sicht;art19070,4398592
I really do not hope Hessen follows this ruling with their current case in the court. Since I will also be in the NRW I will try in a club there. I promise to write a review.
Bertie Wooster
09-27-20, 23:56
Posted. Looks like my business trip to Stuttgart next week won't be as fun, was hoping the clubs in Baden-Wurttemberg were going to open.
https://www.stimme.de/suedwesten/nachrichten/pl/oeffnung-der-bordelle-nicht-in-sicht;art19070,4398592
I really do not hope Hessen follows this ruling with their current case in the court. Since I will also be in the NRW I will try in a club there. I promise to write a review.
Merkel telling very bad situation about covid, arriving in Germany, could go up to 19000 cases per day. Surprising, they opened risky brothels.
Merkel telling very bad situation about covid, arriving in Germany, could go up to 19000 cases per day. Surprising, they opened risky brothels.The worse thing that could happen is for those brothels to be closed again. It will be very long until they would be opened again.
Merkel telling very bad situation about covid, arriving in Germany, could go up to 19000 cases per day. Surprising, they opened risky brothels.The court overruled. Seems heavy breathing in a gym while exercising is the same as what happens in the room.
German sauna clubs with face masks, social distancing, and sanitising, are a lot less risky than most public settings in my home country. The risky part of a trip is the part in my home country.
ExpatLover
09-30-20, 06:44
Let us be a little bit pragmatic, with a prostitute you have very close contacts, probably you are aware that the virus can enter from your eyes, imagine she has the virus on her hair. (more than possible), what about all the furniture in a FKK, what about the virus in the air specially in the toilet but not only. Wearing a mask is not enough from far. Now if you prefer to visit prostitutes, please do it but don t try to find excuses like wearing a mask, washing your hands we all know that is from far not enough, life is at risk and going to FKK is at high risk, but why not, personally I will not go. I consider my social responsibility is higher than my personal pleasure, I don't want to get sick or / and be a spreader of the virus.
I am at ACA.
Rules for rooms in NRW:
1. Masks must be weared.
2. Only doggy style allowed, due to distance.
3. Neither blowjob nor kissing allowed.
4. No drinks or food in the room.
If you do something else in the room, do NOT write it here in the forum!
Authorities read reports here in the forum and can close clubs any day.
I am at ACA.
Rules for rooms in NRW:
1. Masks must be weared.
2. Only doggy style allowed, due to distance.
3. Neither blowjob nor kissing allowed.
4. No drinks or food in the room.
If you do something else in the room, do NOT write it here in the forum!
Authorities read reports here in the forum and can close clubs any day.That sounds awful and a massive passion-killer, but I guess this is the new normal for the next months.
I am at ACA.
Rules for rooms in NRW:
1. Masks must be weared.
2. Only doggy style allowed, due to distance.
3. Neither blowjob nor kissing allowed.
4. No drinks or food in the room.
If you do something else in the room, do NOT write it here in the forum!
Authorities read reports here in the forum and can close clubs any day.That is hilarious! Your face is a couple of feet from her face in a doggie; that is deemed safer than other positions? How about reverse cowgirl? LOL.
Thanks for sharing though!
Do they ask you to wear mask during sex?
I hope this does not make the girls charge extra for other positions like mish and normal cowgirl. These price hikes, once set, tend to stay permanent.
That is hilarious! Your face is a couple of feet from her face in a doggie; that is deemed safer than other positions? How about reverse cowgirl? LOL.
Thanks for sharing though!
Do they ask you to wear mask during sex?
I hope this does not make the girls charge extra for other positions like mish and normal cowgirl. These price hikes, once set, tend to stay permanent.I am satisfied with my sessions today, but I will not write about them. I did not pay any extra.
I only want to tell mongers to be careful with what they write about their sessions in the forum.
Rules are decided by authorities / police. Then the clubs must apply them.
I am at ACA.
Rules for rooms in NRW:
1. Masks must be weared.
2. Only doggy style allowed, due to distance.
3. Neither blowjob nor kissing allowed.
4. No drinks or food in the room.
If you do something else in the room, do NOT write it here in the forum!
Authorities read reports here in the forum and can close clubs any day.Many WGs read us, but who told you German administration read us writing in English? Really funny to have these followers.
I am satisfied with my sessions today, but I will not write about them. I did not pay any extra.
I only want to tell mongers to be careful with what they write about their sessions in the forum.
Rules are decided by authorities / police. Then the clubs must apply them.LOL you really think the authorities are that stupid? I'm sure they're aware anything is possible for the right price.
I am at ACA.
Rules for rooms in NRW:
1. Masks must be weared.
2. Only doggy style allowed, due to distance.
3. Neither blowjob nor kissing allowed.
4. No drinks or food in the room.
If you do something else in the room, do NOT write it here in the forum!
Authorities read reports here in the forum and can close clubs any day.Only doggy style allowed is truly hilarious. There are many positions in which the faces are as far or futher away than in doggy. Reverse cowgirl to name one. No blowjob (even CBJ), no kissing of the back and other parts of the body. I would really like to see those rules in legislation.
Only doggy style allowed is truly hilarious. There are many positions in which the faces are as far or futher away than in doggy. Reverse cowgirl to name one. No blowjob (even CBJ), no kissing of the back and other parts of the body. I would really like to see those rules in legislation.I do not think people follow these rules.
Girls - Who know I write here - told me: Do not write in forums about actions in the room that break the rules.
Only doggy style allowed is truly hilarious. There are many positions in which the faces are as far or futher away than in doggy. Reverse cowgirl to name one. No blowjob (even CBJ), no kissing of the back and other parts of the body. I would really like to see those rules in legislation.RCG is basically doggy with the man on his back. Spin doggie 90 degrees and you basically have RCG.
I do not think people follow these rules.
Girls - Who know I write here - told me: Do not write in forums about actions in the room that break the rules.FKK WGs are writing here? Wow. I did not know.
For the record, I am a guy seeking to fuck girls. LOL.
Banana Boi
10-02-20, 05:16
Girls - Who know I write here - told meWhy would anyone ever tell a FKK girl they write in sex forums?
BigBuddy69
10-02-20, 05:22
Why would anyone ever tell a FKK girl they write in sex forums?To show that he is the ultimate tourist.
Why would anyone ever tell a FKK girl they write in sex forums?Don't you know some guys, some here, show or send with whatsapp, what we write to girls, sending even to clubs. Many girls also read us. At Globe, Romanian girls or Linda are not happy about my writings, when some girls always did trust me as a writer and they were the busiest stars.
RCG is basically doggy with the man on his back. Spin doggie 90 degrees and you basically have RCG.And when you were a kid in school, you thought to yourself: "The Geometry stuff will never be useful, why should I learn it?
Why would anyone ever tell a FKK girl they write in sex forums?Oh most smart girls read this forum. One even the day after I wrote about her, called me at the Sharks bar by my screen name, jokingly. I asked her how did she guess, she's like I can tell LOL. But yeah I think some guys try to score extra points with the girls by telling them that he wrote good reviews about her. Some girls also ask guys to write reviews about them, obviously to boost business.
FKK WGs are writing here? Wow. I did not know.
For the record, I am a guy seeking to fuck girls. LOL.Oops, I misread your comment Arnold15. My apologies to you.
Oh most smart girls read this forum. One even the day after I wrote about her, called me at the Sharks bar by my screen name, jokingly. I asked her how did she guess, she's like I can tell LOL. But yeah I think some guys try to score extra points with the girls by telling them that he wrote good reviews about her. Some girls also ask guys to write reviews about them, obviously to boost business.What about the guy who posted a Sharks WG's fb page on this forum. She immediately gave an angry response in the Sharks thread.
Citizen Kane
10-03-20, 21:34
I like my women like I like my coffee - from a third world country and traded at a reasonable price.
What about the guy who posted a Sharks WG's fb page on this forum. She immediately gave an angry response in the Sharks thread.I missed that very important link. Damn!
Ok with all seriousness, that's a very douche move from the guy, and infringing on her privacy. WTF was he thinking?
And yes, shows that many, if not most, WGs read forums about their work. Kinda similar like most of us keep a tab on what (if any) people are writing about us in LinkedIn. Some WGs who aren't proficient in English, simply use Google Chrome to auto-translate.
To show that he is the ultimate tourist.Winner.
Why would anyone ever tell a FKK girl they write in sex forums?To try and get better service perhaps? Like going to a restaurant and saying that you write reviews on yelp / tripadvisor.
HammerTime96
10-04-20, 16:21
What about the guy who posted a Sharks WG's fb page on this forum. She immediately gave an angry response in the Sharks thread.Rightfully so that she was angry! Writing a review (positive of negative) is quite a bit different than doxxing a girl for the whole world to see and exposing contact details that she gave confidentially to a single customer.
What about the guy who posted a Sharks WG's fb page on this forum. She immediately gave an angry response in the Sharks thread.Who was the Sharks WG? I think I may have seen it but I'm wondering if I missed anything.
Alessandro527
10-05-20, 08:38
Why would anyone ever tell a FKK girl they write in sex forums?Girls don't like visitors to write in forums. They will tell you that those who write in forums are weak persons, people that cannot find a real woman and that what they say there is all lies because they want to show to other mongers that they are super duper fuckers.
At least this is what they tell to me when I tell them I write sometimes.
They don't read forums I think but they have someone else (pimps) to do this for them.
Who was the Sharks WG? I think I may have seen it but I'm wondering if I missed anything.I'm beginning to forget names now, it was the ample Latvian who sits at the bar near the entrance to the restaurant. She stated she was going to contact the police on the guy who posted it. The post had lots of personal information about her.
I'm beginning to forget names now, it was the ample Latvian who sits at the bar near the entrance to the restaurant. She stated she was going to contact the police on the guy who posted it. The post had lots of personal information about her.Yep, that's the one I was thinking about, thanks!
Rightfully so that she was angry! Writing a review (positive of negative) is quite a bit different than doxxing a girl for the whole world to see and exposing contact details that she gave confidentially to a single customer.Most of girls are very angry when you write negative about them, and become mad when falling from princess to prostitute like all others treat them, not anymore valuated, but I think for Angelika. Lat, it was very private information, but was fortunately for her deleted here.
Girls don't like visitors to write in forums. They will tell you that those who write in forums are weak persons, people that cannot find a real woman and that what they say there is all lies because they want to show to other mongers that they are super duper fuckers.
At least this is what they tell to me when I tell them I write sometimes.
They don't read forums I think but they have someone else (pimps) to do this for them.Girls read and some guys here tell them.
ExpatLover
10-06-20, 08:37
Sorry they are prostitutes at the beginning never princesses, imagine you prostitute yourself, are you a king at the beginning?. Since ages prostitutes are at the lowest level of the society, today all this remains, a escort is not more than a prostitute. In general prostitutes are aging very fast, just look at the face of the girls after only 6 months in a FKK. I met a lot of prostitutes. Escorts, spent hours with them, went on holidays, visited their family in Romania, my modest conclusion is that 99% of those girls have problems somewhere: no father, no family, no power or energy, no willing, some psychiatric diseases like bipolarity, addictions. Only very few are coming from a normal family mother+father working without alcohol addiction. Most of them will try to leave the prostitution but without success just because the problems remain.
Most of girls are very angry when you write negative about them, and become mad when falling from princess to prostitute like all others treat them, not anymore valuated, but I think for Angelika. Lat, it was very private information, but was fortunately for her deleted here.You have a good memory Siri, Angelika, that was her name. I went with her once, she gives very good service but you won't know, you only go with the slim very hot girls.
That being said I have got only very good service from women from that region, Latvia and Lithuania.
Girls don't like visitors to write in forums. They will tell you that those who write in forums are weak persons, people that cannot find a real woman and that what they say there is all lies because they want to show to other mongers that they are super duper fuckers.
At least this is what they tell to me when I tell them I write sometimes.
They don't read forums I think but they have someone else (pimps) to do this for them.Most smart girls read the forums themselves. Ask Scarlet RO Sharks next time you see her.
You have a good memory Siri, Angelika, that was her name. I went with her once, she gives very good service but you won't know, you only go with the slim very hot girls.
That being said I have got only very good service from women from that region, Latvia and Lithuania.Of course, I never went with her look, but as I look at all girls like women, even when not going with them, I remember most of them name even only business name, just because they are not holes in piece of meat for my eyes which just select rare elegant beauties among many average looks. Had some great Latvians in FKK land like Lena at PSR, 2 Ina at Oase and at GT who became escort in Paris, Marina at Sharks. Latvians are great for love sex, I call them sweet Russian.
Of course, I never went with her look, but as I look at all girls like women, even when not going with them, I remember most of them name even only business name, just because they are not holes in piece of meat for my eyes which just select rare elegant beauties among many average looks. Had some great Latvians in FKK land like Lena at PSR, 2 Ina at Oase and at GT who became escort in Paris, Marina at Sharks. Latvians are great for love sex, I call them sweet Russian.One of the best sessions I ever had at an FKK was blonde amazing body Greta from Latvia who I met at Sharks. I repeated with her every time I saw her which was quite infrequent. She works as a wg very seldom.
Sorry they are prostitutes at the beginning never princesses, imagine you prostitute yourself, are you a king at the beginning?. Since ages prostitutes are at the lowest level of the society, today all this remains, a escort is not more than a prostitute. In general prostitutes are aging very fast, just look at the face of the girls after only 6 months in a FKK. I met a lot of prostitutes. Escorts, spent hours with them, went on holidays, visited their family in Romania, my modest conclusion is that 99% of those girls have problems somewhere: no father, no family, no power or energy, no willing, some psychiatric diseases like bipolarity, addictions. Only very few are coming from a normal family mother+father working without alcohol addiction. Most of them will try to leave the prostitution but without success just because the problems remain.You are 1000% correct, except for the girls who actually enjoy this job, very very few less than 1% maybe. I was lucky to meet few of them, and they look like 18-20 at the ages of 28-30 LOL. I think mainly because happiness from so much sex with so many guys that they actually love, plus they kept themselves in shape. Happiness trumps every other drawbacks of any job.
From reading here, it seems that the thing which seems to upset these girls more than any other is writing details about the sessions. Such as "Betty gave tons of DFK, slurpy slow BBBJ, and copious amounts of Ball sucking and licking as part of my one hour 100 Euro session". That would ruin it for her. You may be a regular but she would get bombarded with every Tom Dick and Donald to receive the same stuff at the same price and that would piss her off no end.
HammerTime96
10-07-20, 17:49
One of the best sessions I ever had at an FKK was blonde amazing body Greta from Latvia who I met at Sharks. I repeated with her every time I saw her which was quite infrequent. She works as a wg very seldom.With a name like that, she'd better be real good looking for me to fuck her! LOL!
One of the best sessions I ever had at an FKK was blonde amazing body Greta from Latvia who I met at Sharks. I repeated with her every time I saw her which was quite infrequent. She works as a wg very seldom.Never noticed her, where did she work at Sharks? Had amazing rooms with multi orgasmic Marina on 2014, so lovely with her shy smile.
Most smart girls read the forums themselves. Ask Scarlet RO Sharks next time you see her.The girls know all about this forum based on what they told me but they don't seem the read the German forums. I hope I'll get a chance to see Scarlett in Sharks soon.
Never noticed her, where did she work at Sharks? Had amazing rooms with multi orgasmic Marina on 2014, so lovely with her shy smile.My apologies to all I'm mixing up the girls. Greta is Latvian but is MILF and sat close to Angelika at the bar near to the entrance to the restaurant. Greta gave me very good service. She is in her thirties, is about 5' 9". The girl I was thinking of in my earlier post was Pristina who was born in Latvia but has German citizenship. Pristina is about 5' 8", mid to late twenties blonde and has a very athletic body. She works out regularly in the gym and told me she used to be an athlete. She was in the club for two days at the beginning of February and sat at the bar close to the stairs leading to the jacuzzi. I sessioned with her both days. Before that I had last seen her in 2016. She has a regular job but sometimes visits the club. Her service is exceptional, it was the best I had during my visits earlier this year.
ExpatLover
10-08-20, 06:18
I never trust one world from any forum or from a prostitute. I never read any report about a girl, it is waste of time, go with the girl in the room and make your own opinion. Girls are not machines, they do things with one and not with others, but so many guys feel safe when they read the reports, just because they are afraid to go their own road, to explore the things, they like to be a follower, like the guys always visiting FKK in groups, or siting around with other mongers chatting for hours, about that girl or what they have done in the room. I know very well some girls even I can say we are friends (spending holidays or Christmas together in Rumania) and they are telling me what is the reality even with some mongers who are not discrete enough to keep their privacy.
The girls know all about this forum based on what they told me but they don't seem the read the German forums. I hope I'll get a chance to see Scarlett in Sharks soon.High level or class girls don t read and they are right not to read us, because they don t care and they are right, they know they have to make regulars to make good business, and regulars who return to repeat won t write bad things and mostly regulars worth for them. At Sharks, many Romanians read us.
High level or class girls don t read and they are right not to read us, because they don t care and they are right, they know they have to make regulars to make good business, and regulars who return to repeat won t write bad things and mostly regulars worth for them. At Sharks, many Romanians read us.The girls are quite clever and know who writes about them even if not related to a session. I once wrote about Esther's boob job and the next time I went to Sharks she walked in my direction and shook her boobs in front of me.
The girls are quite clever and know who writes about them even if not related to a session. I once wrote about Esther's boob job and the next time I went to Sharks she walked in my direction and shook her boobs in front of me.Might not necessarily because she recognized you from your writing. Could be that she was being playful that day, or wanted to attract your attention, or felt that you haven't been with her in a while and was remind you "hey, here I invested in these just for you and you haven't given them a try yet".
It is possible for a girl to recognize a guy from his comments here if you describe something that uniquely happened in your room and which she does not do with others. Of course you have no way of knowing what she is doing with others. Or you give a time and place and description such as "I fucked Esther at 6 PM yesterday in the room next to kino and took a RIM job". If you write such a report month later, the chances she can remember you from that report are less unless she does not do any RIM with others. I don't know what you wrote specifically about her boob job that enabled her to pick you out. Did you use any descriptive words in your comment here that you also used with her? Or did she already know who you were, prior to you writing that comment?
Many of these girls do not speak good English. I think complicated English vocab confuses them and I doubt that they are using Google translate on every message.
Might not necessarily because she recognized you from your writing. Could be that she was being playful that day, or wanted to attract your attention, or felt that you haven't been with her in a while and was remind you "hey, here I invested in these just for you and you haven't given them a try yet".
It is possible for a girl to recognize a guy from his comments here if you describe something that uniquely happened in your room and which she does not do with others. Of course you have no way of knowing what she is doing with others. Or you give a time and place and description such as "I fucked Esther at 6 PM yesterday in the room next to kino and took a RIM job". If you write such a report month later, the chances she can remember you from that report are less unless she does not do any RIM with others. I don't know what you wrote specifically about her boob job that enabled her to pick you out. Did you use any descriptive words in your comment here that you also used with her? Or did she already know who you were, prior to you writing that comment?
Many of these girls do not speak good English. I think complicated English vocab confuses them and I doubt that they are using Google translate on every message.I know that one girl at Palace recognized me from my writing, but it wasn't from her having actually read anything from here. She said that another monger told her about what I had written (it happened to describe a good session in detail). I denied that it was me, and acted like I had no idea what she was talking about, or that I visited any such sites as this one. So, there definitely are mongers who go and "tell on" other mongers to the girls and spill the beans about what is written here. I wish they would not.
The girls are quite clever and know who writes about them even if not related to a session. I once wrote about Esther's boob job and the next time I went to Sharks she walked in my direction and shook her boobs in front of me.I meant high level girls don't need to read and don't care, when average girls are afraid of what we can write. Average girls gossip between them. Evita sent me guys about my writings telling she was in Asian business. Was I wrong?
Don't follow the little will-o'-the-wisps in the dark, rather follow the big, glaring headlights. These will guide you and if you are too blinded, please wear an eye mask.
Just swim with the crush. But remember to keep your distance while swimming. And be sure, the swarm offers you protection, protection from the virus, protection from everything.
There is no factual criticism of the government, Corona shows us that like in a magnifying glass. The problems become more visible. There are too many enemies of this democracy.
Why are people allowed to leave the house without a negative test result? How should all the contacts be followed up?
You will find protection in the swarm, but only if it stays clean.
Please think about your health and that of your family, just a little more patience. Just follow the crush and stay away from forbidden thoughts.
Don't mind to put your own health over the freedom of the little rest. Be a swarm swimmer, be a war winner.
Digital agents will guide you. And don't be afraid of them, their are wearing masks, even in Hessen chats rooms.
Highest numbers since mask rule. Time to wear two masks.
11 death today.
Might not necessarily because she recognized you from your writing. Could be that she was being playful that day, or wanted to attract your attention, or felt that you haven't been with her in a while and was remind you "hey, here I invested in these just for you and you haven't given them a try yet".
It is possible for a girl to recognize a guy from his comments here if you describe something that uniquely happened in your room and which she does not do with others. Of course you have no way of knowing what she is doing with others. Or you give a time and place and description such as "I fucked Esther at 6 PM yesterday in the room next to kino and took a RIM job". If you write such a report month later, the chances she can remember you from that report are less unless she does not do any RIM with others. I don't know what you wrote specifically about her boob job that enabled her to pick you out. Did you use any descriptive words in your comment here that you also used with her? Or did she already know who you were, prior to you writing that comment?
Many of these girls do not speak good English. I think complicated English vocab confuses them and I doubt that they are using Google translate on every message.You are right I cannot be 100% certain that her frolicsomeness was related to my post but the timing was uncanny. She could not have been trying to encourage me into a session as I had not done so in years and she had long since given up on that.
Over 1421 new proofed heavy sars cov2 infections alone in NRW today. Double as more as whole Germany had a few weeks ago in summer. Explosion.
Reason is because the NRW Locals are giving false Data at club doors. This happens when people don't have to show ID. Politics need to act here. It is clearly a mistake, making the ID not a must.
These liars, mongers don't want to protect my health and politics is helping them with such loose laws. Consequence should be shut down NRW. Or go only there if you are immune, hidden Hotspots.
Nobody know if your negative test isn't a false or fake one, but stay healthy people!
(I know this is not a nice speech for some people, humans who are born sick, with chronicle disease, people who have problems forever after surgeries, you know, no hard one, no hands. Whatever. "All good" if I would be a dictator).
16 death today. (whole Deutschland).
Reason is because the NRW Locals are giving false Data at club doors. This happens when people don't have to show ID. Politics need to act here. It is clearly a mistake, making the ID not a must.
These liars, mongers.What evidence or proof do you have that links the increase of cases in NRW to the sauna clubs? NRW also has an active nightclub, dining and shopping scene. Perhaps that has something to do with it. I can't imagine that so many visitors in the sauna clubs are super spreaders of the disease to drastically impact the overall numbers across millions of people. Sounds to me like you would prefer all P6 activity to be closed. You aren't secretly the mayor of Kaarst are you, or perhaps the mayor of Roermond?
According to EU law, can transit for less than 24 hours at least in NRW, like in Switzerland, without negative test. As I'm not a Donald, gave my real informations to be contacted, but down casting at Gold and I knew far higher at Samya. 0 room. Prettiest at Gold was blond on desk in the afternoon.
HammerTime96
10-11-20, 17:35
Over 1421 new proofed heavy sars cov2 infections alone in NRW today. Double as more as whole Germany had a few weeks ago in summer. Explosion.
Reason is because the NRW Locals are giving false Data at club doors. This happens when people don't have to show ID. Politics need to act here. It is clearly a mistake, making the ID not a must.
These liars, mongers don't want to protect my health and politics is helping them with such loose laws. Consequence should be shut down NRW. Or go only there if you are immune, hidden Hotspots.
Nobody know if your negative test isn't a false or fake one, but stay healthy people!
(I know this is not a nice speech for some people, humans who are born sick, with chronicle disease, people who have problems forever after surgeries, you know, no hard one, no hands. Whatever. "All good" if I would be a dictator).
16 death today. (whole Deutschland)."Heavy SARC CoV2 infections?" Is "heavy" your own definition, or can you back that up with hard data?
While the slow learners in the class are still in full "Panic Mode," the official German State media is now back-peddling about the seriousness of the number of "cases" versus the actual hospitalisation rate. (in the video, the blue line = "cases" and the red line = hospitalisation).
For the German speakers (this is the German subforum) here is a video from ARD Extra: https://youtu.be/NV7BWpvpK7o.
Gravediggers can't work 24/7, they need breaks and a off day to protect my health. No matter what, 11 death today. I am like master Chrissy "Dr." Dee. And like everybody, we can feel that the virus is still making enormous trouble.
And if you can't feel it, something must be wrong with your feelings.
Personally I think government is calling way too late for help. Only the army is able to trace infection chains. The amateur tracing scouts are too slow, just not well prepared enough in this war. You can't win, when it is about life and death, with overpaid people who didn't finished college.
On the other side, if we had no virus, we had more unemployed tracing scouts. Viva la German economy.
I also totally agree with bavarian King "Markiss of course First Koeder".
(Don't confuse him with Markus Flower. Isn't Markus Flower an attractive man? How old is he? 50? He looks like he is 40. I like those advanced people, born in the gutter, worked hard their whole life, climbing stairs and then they become, the second best. But isn't he attractive?
The best to fight the virus are, right, masks. You can see it for example in France. France was one of the first countries who had a mask rule, even under open sky. Check Tour de France. And look at them now, they have many viruses nearly under control. Relative low numbers, no demonstrations, educated, thankful and happy citizens.
The masks are the key. Everybody could try it for himself. Pull one, two times like a man on a electric cigarette, put on the mask and then breathe out slowly. Tell me what you see? Exactly, nothing.
If you see smoke you did something wrong. Smoke is also way much tiny than virus, close to invisible.
If you are healthy, stay healthy.
If you are ill, bad luck, but at least you're a good customer.
I try to answer later guys, until then, keep protecting my life!
BigBuddy69
10-12-20, 06:48
GThe masks are the key. Everybody could try it for himself. Pull one, two times like a man on a electric cigarette, put on the mask and then breathe out slowly. Tell me what you see? Exactly, nothing.
If you see smoke you did something wrong. Smoke is also way much tiny than virus, close to invisible.
Yes, one of the dumbass "gilet jaune" did the same experiment in France. You know, the morons who complain because the gas is too pricey right now and they can't drive their SUV, or who think that Bill Gates, the Big Pharma and Isreal are plotting against them.
Let me explain you something, the virus doesn't float around alone in the air, it comes with the little droplets of saliva that you exhale. So make a new experiment, try to sneeze with a mask and without a mask and put your hand in front of your mouth. I think that your hand will be less wet with the mask.
ExpatLover
10-12-20, 07:17
No France was not the first country to wear mask, even the stupid Macron needed months to wear one. In France, many people don t wear masks, never forget France is a extreme split society like the US, the people don t live together only around Paris you have many suburbs were most of the people don t were masks, they all gather without any restrictions, they don t follow the rules.
BrahmaPoutre
10-12-20, 18:33
This guy PumDiPum doesn't not know anything, so far!
German were among the first ones to wear masks everywhere in public areas, supermarket and hotels etc.
UnfaithfulLord
10-13-20, 06:52
Hi everyone!
Does anyone know what the current status is in Hamburg?
I have read that the Dusseldorf clubs are open but would be grateful if I got information about the situation in Hamburg.
Of course I pay back with one good report.
Regards,
UL.
Hi everyone!
Does anyone know what the current status is in Hamburg?
I have read that the Dusseldorf clubs are open but would be grateful if I got information about the situation in Hamburg.
Of course I pay back with one good report.
Regards,
UL.Harmony south Hamburg is open, with mask.
First of all, thanks to everybody for protecting my life, it worked out well for another day. (knock knock the wood).
How are you Hammer? Everything fine?
If an infection with sars cov2 wouldn't be heavy in general, all the people wouldn't have to wear masks, wouldn't have to keep distance and wouldn't have to wash feet with soap. If an infection with sars cov2 would be harmless, governments wouldn't put restrictions on people's basic rights.
You know, just for those who learn slow. (BTW, your body called me "the bottom end of the algorithm" LOL).
Without looking at your posted link (because mami said: "don't click at links who are posted on a board that supports censorship) I can tell you that even the slowest learners waiting since May, that government starts to learn.
ARD is not government.
Nobody cares where ARD is paddling around, ARD is a falling star, from the old world. All good, call me Aladdin's mother.
Chongmal, how are you? Everything okay. Thanks to you too, for protecting my life.
I am able to tolerate people who are denying hidden Hotspots, denying hidden infection chains and still have a heart for underpaid experts.
Basically I don't need to proof here anything. It's more like that Armin "loose" Laschet has to proof you every day, that a mask, distance and a contact form are the right instruments to protect my life.
I don't know if people who go to bars, to restaurants or shopping are so much different from mongers.
But I know that mongers believe in Santa Claus. Hopefully he is wearing a mask this year.
But you could be right, the people who go shopping don't want to protect my life. Shut down! Shut down! Whole NRW is a hidden Hotspot, just too small for so many people.
I am the manager of the manger of Roemond club. He is a sensible man and I have strong arms, we had a few romantic days together. He told me about this guy from China, Qu Peng Peng, he is the one who is manipulating the numbers. Secret.
6 death yesterday, 13 death today.
HammerTime96
10-14-20, 13:01
6 death yesterday, 13 death today.Statistically speaking, between 16000 and 20000 people die every week in Germany, so what are you talking about?
I am the manager of the manger of Roemond club. He is a sensible man and I have strong arms, we had a few romantic days together. He told me about this guy from China, Qu Peng Peng, he is the one who is manipulating the numbers. Secret.You are the manager? Or you know the manager?
"Qu Peng Peng" is manipulating numbers? Show us a link to a news story.
Now even Globe put mask and control on entry, when Samya have to close much earlier.
Basically I don't need to proof here anything. It's more like that Armin "loose" Laschet has to proof you every day, that a mask, distance and a contact form are the right instruments to protect my life.Interesting choice of words. Honestly, protect yourself, don't try to burden me with that because you will most likely be disappointed, aka dead. Your choice is to live in a manner you see appropriate for you, but not to force your twisted version of reality onto others. You live and let live. We all die, some of us are just going to die faster than others, and I accept that I'm on a shorter course. You talk of death has no impact on me, and I have to withhold the rest of my comments on this to avoid being confrontational, but you can read between the lines right.
To be a member of this forum you only have to prove you or someone else can answer an e-mail at the e-mail address you provide. You IQ is not validated, your mental health is not validated, your ability to read and write comprehensible sentences and paragraphs is not validated. The good news is, there will be another asteroid in a near pass in the near future and those that choose can jump off earth and hitch a ride.
See you Later Tada.
For fans, from a good guy sharing information's, friendly Turkish Nelly and Reina who has more woman manners, both ex LR, are at Zeus SZ. Had good diner and my eyes were happy. To return for one. Adapting to situation.
ExpatLover
12-12-20, 08:52
For fans, from a good guy sharing information's, friendly Turkish Nelly and Reina who has more woman manners, both ex LR, are at Zeus SZ. Had good diner and my eyes were happy. To return for one. Adapting to situation.Thanks, confirms what (with others) I am telling for years, always the same veteran girls around, from LR, to Zeus, and than or before escort in London, Paris. Sorry I don't session those kind of girls, probably got fucked 1000 to 10000 times if not more.
Thanks, confirms what (with others) I am telling for years, always the same veteran girls around, from LR, to Zeus, and than or before escort in London, Paris. Sorry I don't session those kind of girls, probably got fucked 1000 to 10000 times if not more.I just wish you had many looks like Reina ex LR, more sophisticated at Zeus and smiling welcoming. Never had room with her at LR because she told me not kissing, but if she changes in Switzerland, maybe we could try, even I found a new target, Romanian brunette beauty. When still fresh look and good manners, I like to go with some long time in business, like Alyssa at LR, to surprise them, when they had so many sex, but I like to see their round surprised eyes, interesting when they still look like a woman, of course not with stolen cars tattooed silicon.
I just wish you had many looks like Reina ex LR, more sophisticated at Zeus and smiling welcoming. Never had room with her at LR because she told me not kissing, but if she changes in Switzerland, maybe we could try, even I found a new target, Romanian brunette beauty. When still fresh look and good manners, I like to go with some long time in business, like Alyssa at LR, to surprise them, when they had so many sex, but I like to see their round surprised eyes, interesting when they still look like a woman, of course not with stolen cars tattooed silicon.Even moving from Deüsseldorf to Switzerland, but still a fresh look, not even woman type enough yet for me, but I discovered a beautiful shy smile and no tattoo, no silicon, no botox, no acid, she really doesn't need. I wonder if she would be able to play girlfriend for love sex now in Switzerland? Maybe to try when returning soon. I adapt to business market when disappointed once more yesterday by Ukrainian, even very fresh escort with really enjoyable will to please me, but not on my standard for care for her body and face to make me dream. Most of Ukrainians are not on my standards for women, Romanians have better care for themselves and more sophisticated, when I had to let car and walk 3 kilometers through Paris to her place, like a warrior when Police everywhere yesterday around Halles, Republique and Bastille, after driving from Luzern. Ch at night to watch Val the Isere and Courchevel ski Worldcup. Few Romanians at Zeus were prettier.
Even in Switzerland where administration there is ready for anything for money like the worst WGs, last brothels are now closing, administration will lose money, but ski still open there, but not safe time and nothing about covid, for fee ride my fall then die Verbier extreme spots, big avalanche risk with fresh snow and not cold enough. So, no worthy present for Christmas. Wish can ski later in Winter, and I wish for many great people working in this business.
RabbitFarm
12-21-20, 15:18
Hi everyone,
Stumbled upon this article, in German:
https://www.fr.de/frankfurt/kurz-vor-dem-kollaps-90147415.html
Although the restrictions are set to expire on January 31st, they're probably to be extended.
Hi everyone,
Stumbled upon this article, in German:
https://www.fr.de/frankfurt/kurz-vor-dem-kollaps-90147415.html
Although the restrictions are set to expire on January 31st, they're probably to be extended.Hessen is closed since mid March and never reopened when Sarland, Berlin and NRW did. I doubt for Germany on end of January. Maybe for Switzerland and Austria.
Hi everyone,
Stumbled upon this article, in German:
https://www.fr.de/frankfurt/kurz-vor-dem-kollaps-90147415.html
Although the restrictions are set to expire on January 31st, they're probably to be extended.I don't see anywhere opening before April at the earliest now. And that's only if there is a widespread vaccination program across Germany where anyone over 50, critical care workers and vulnerable people have been innoculated. That also depends very much on the vaccine being effective which has yet to be proven, so far it's efficacy has been demonstrated but the results of widespread coverage has not. This new covid varient that has been observed could change everything but it will take time to understand the ramifications, it's being suggested that it spreads through children who were not believed to be carriers until now.
ExpatLover
12-22-20, 12:41
I don't see anywhere opening before April at the earliest now. And that's only if there is a widespread vaccination program across Germany where anyone over 50, critical care workers and vulnerable people have been innoculated. That also depends very much on the vaccine being effective which has yet to be proven, so far it's efficacy has been demonstrated but the results of widespread coverage has not. This new covid varient that has been observed could change everything but it will take time to understand the ramifications, it's being suggested that it spreads through children who were not believed to be carriers until now.Fully online with you, this RNA vaccine had to be efficient even it is just water, a lot of political pressure around. Today the Pr Raoult one of the best epidemiologist was just sharing his doubts about the efficiency of the vaccine because of the perpetual mutation of the virus. Probably the FKK will reopen mid of 2021 but as long the covid is around I will not goas I don t go in any restaurant, bar, fitness. I don't care about all those business my life is far more important.
Fully online with you, this RNA vaccine had to be efficient even it is just water, a lot of political pressure around. Today the Pr Raoult one of the best epidemiologist was just sharing his doubts about the efficiency of the vaccine because of the perpetual mutation of the virus. Probably the FKK will reopen mid of 2021 but as long the covid is around I will not goas I don t go in any restaurant, bar, fitness. I don't care about all those business my life is far more important.If you mean French doctor Raoult, he is not at all a reference in France with chloroquine problem. Wish vaccines will protect old, weak and medical people, but what about spreading? When young don t care as long they are not in hospital. But I didn't and won't stop to live, because You can die fast from other than covid. L made my Summer great from end of May to end of October and look forward my Winter.
ExpatLover
12-22-20, 18:13
If you mean French doctor Raoult, he is not at all a reference in France with chloroquine problem. Wish vaccines will protect old, weak and medical people, but what about spreading? When young don t care as long they are not in hospital. But I didn't and won't stop to live, because You can die fast from other than covid. L made my Summer great from end of May to end of October and look forward my Winter.At least for me he is a reference, there is absolutely no problem with chloroquine, this medicine is efficient or please explain to me why in India, and Africa despite poor health system, promiscuity they have so low death rate, just because they are taking chloroquine against malaria. Europe bought for 1 billion Remdesivir which is a terrible medicine and now they can put it in the dust been. Within 5 year Pr Raoult will be celebrate as a hero, he published more than 180 full report about covid, number 1 in Europe, made 0. 3 of PCR testing, treated 20000 sick people from covid and has 0. 2 for 1000 of deaths, what do you want more?
At least for me he is a reference, there is absolutely no problem with chloroquine, this medicine is efficient or please explain to me why in India, and Africa despite poor health system, promiscuity they have so low death rate, just because they are taking chloroquine against malaria. Europe bought for 1 billion Remdesivir which is a terrible medicine and now they can put it in the dust been. Within 5 year Pr Raoult will be celebrate as a hero, he published more than 180 full report about covid, number 1 in Europe, made 0. 3 of PCR testing, treated 20000 sick people from covid and has 0. 2 for 1000 of deaths, what do you want more?I'm sure it's all hydroxychloroquine and has nothing to do with Africa's median age being under 20 years old and India's being under 30. Eye roll. Actually, Super eye roll.
We've already proven hcq to be ineffective back in June. Either do better or stop posting about things in which you do not know. It's a disservice to public health.
At least for me he is a reference, there is absolutely no problem with chloroquine, this medicine is efficient or please explain to me why in India, and Africa despite poor health system, promiscuity they have so low death rate, just because they are taking chloroquine against malaria. Europe bought for 1 billion Remdesivir which is a terrible medicine and now they can put it in the dust been. Within 5 year Pr Raoult will be celebrate as a hero, he published more than 180 full report about covid, number 1 in Europe, made 0. 3 of PCR testing, treated 20000 sick people from covid and has 0. 2 for 1000 of deaths, what do you want more?I trust medical in France and chloroquine is forbidden to treat covid in France and Raoult stopped with this. Africa have younger population, less fat, less diabetics and less cardiovascular problems, fortunately for them, it helped them and I m happy for them, but do you have medical graduation?
BigBuddy69
12-23-20, 08:07
Either do better or stop posting about things in which you do not know.So he won't post a lot. Or he won't post anymore.
... in India, and Africa despite poor health system, promiscuity they have so low death rate...There goes that word again.... promiscuity. You mean people doing what nature intended?
ExpatLover
12-23-20, 15:05
I trust medical in France and chloroquine is forbidden to treat covid in France and Raoult stopped with this. Africa have younger population, less fat, less diabetics and less cardiovascular problems, fortunately for them, it helped them and I m happy for them, but do you have medical graduation?Of course he doesn't stop in MAseilles you still get it, and I took it many year when I travelled in Africa against malaria and never got any side effects, just this medicine is too cheap.
Of course he doesn't stop in MAseilles you still get it, and I took it many year when I travelled in Africa against malaria and never got any side effects, just this medicine is too cheap.Famous magician Raoult had to stop with miraculous chloroquine and I don't think he gets high credit among French medical, but complaints. We don t need David Coperfield twin in France.
If one contributor has 4 k posts in 2 years is it a blog or forum. I personally miss the clubs as well as posts that provide information about women in a specific club. I remember one time reading a post about an amazing sounding woman at a club just to later find out it was a report on a different lady at a different club in a different country. I asked a girl about Climbing Zoncolan one time. She talked to me about Champaign and Caviar but said she couldn't offer Zoncolan. A colan massage was also an option. All these code words are such a puzzle to me. BTW, that massage was curious of the end of her tongue which really surprised me.
Pheasantplucker
12-28-20, 16:12
Greetings fellow mongers!
I'm afraid I'm a little out of touch with the scene in Germany but am planning a trip to Munich / Frankfurt middle of next year (2021) assuming the Covid situation has been resolved and would appreciate your views on which FKK club (s) to visit.
I will be travelling with a wingman who has no experience at all of mongering in Germany and we will only have a couple of days free so would be good to show him the best available.
In the past, I was a regular visitor to the NRW clubs and loved Goldentime in particular.
Many thanks in advance for your comments and all the best for the New Year!
ExpatLover
12-28-20, 16:27
Greetings fellow mongers!
I'm afraid I'm a little out of touch with the scene in Germany but am planning a trip to Munich / Frankfurt middle of next year (2021) assuming the Covid situation has been resolved and would appreciate your views on which FKK club (s) to visit.
I will be travelling with a wingman who has no experience at all of mongering in Germany and we will only have a couple of days free so would be good to show him the best available.
In the past, I was a regular visitor to the NRW clubs and loved Goldentime in particular.
Many thanks in advance for your comments and all the best for the New Year!I don't believe it is possible to guess what will be the LU of the FKK mid of 2021. Even for 2020 when some FKK reopened we were not getting trustful info's about the LU. I am a bit afraid that the LU will be worse than in 18 or 19 which were already not at a good level, just because I am looking for young, fresh natural beauties and I hate porn looking girls. Fortunately I have some reliable German friends who will inform me when it will be the right time for me to visit again FKK.
Maybe good news.
Packed stadiums, huge concerts and little dirty dance clubs are not responsible for the autumn / winter 2020/21 corona "wave" in Germany. All this is closed since March 2020.
Simple logic, open the disco! And if you open the disco, you can also open the sex clubs.
But politics are addicted to the shutdown shit. Personally I think they should rotate a bit. Shut down the night life one week, next week shot down the police (I don't know any criminals, police is superfluous) and the following week you shut down something else, maybe the cheating car industry. You know, fairness, solidarity.
Since mid October 20 propaganda TV is telling that the holy hospitals are "close" to collapse. Right now Germany has less heavy covid sick people on intensive beds than in spring 2020, but the shutdown continues.
Politics is always backing up their decisions with "science". But they don't even know if people are dying with or because of the virus.
Until 17th of January 2021 94.3 % of all corona tests (37.45 Mio) so far were negative. It's pretty obvious that the virus is everything but aggressive or German government don't have a test strategy. It's a test tragedy. But they refuse to learn and prefer to burn money to "protect" people. Let some heads roll.
Government is telling that the holy health care system is close to collapse because they don't have enough doctors, nurses and professional medical staff.
But they have enough professional medical staff to test 1. 5 million people every week? (right now they do only about 1 million tests, but wait a bit, when spring is coming, the virus starts to hide, then they start to test more again to continue the shutdown).
In some regions they have more vaccine centers than hospitals. Who is working in vaccine centers? Right, professional medical staff and doctors. (Only uncle doctor is allowed to stick the needle into the arm) The funny thing is, Germany don't have enough vaccine at the moment, so what is the staff doing there all day long, keeping empty chairs hygienically clean?
The people who are dying with or because of the virus are on average (about 83 years) older than the normal lucky none covid people (about 81). In Germany it's all about to rescue the last Germans. LOL.
Unfortunately not enough people are really suffering from the measures. They keep on following the Nazis (call them however you want, dictators, kommunists, tyranns). But they have a controlled opposition, organising demonstrations, the demonstrations are more like street party with a stage and music. Very nice.
Time to do it like the Dutch. More fire to the liar sitting with nice hair (hairdressers are closed since over a month) in propaganda TV telling random people not to have a social life. A life.
Sorry sorry, wait, bee one one seven has arrived. Pandemic show part two.
Today I heard in German propaganda radio (RTL) that 4 out of 5 Germans believe that corona is a big dangerous threat. This could mean that over 16 million Germans are dumb, crazy, egoistic, denying corona and believe in fantastic theories.
I am sure among these people are a lot of fuckable single women. It's a pity that they are wearing masks.
Last year in spring I often heard from virus experts, that the number of dark figures could be 10 times higher than the actual number of positive PCR test results (infected people). Today Germany has over 1.8 million officially cured people. If the dark figure is still 10 times higher, Germany has over 18 million cured people. Very good news, they don't need vaccine. More for me and for everyone who want this good stuff.
Since it is about death and life, I can't recommend to think about the corona victims every day. Better do something else, like practicing with snowballs. Do it like police, built small troops, 10 to 15 guys, fast feet, move quick, be aggressive.
Good luck, General Info.
Today I heard in German propaganda radio (RTL) that 4 out of 5 Germans believe that corona is a big dangerous threat. This could mean that over 16 million Germans are dumb, crazy, egoistic, denying corona and believe in fantastic theories.
I am sure among these people are a lot of fuckable single women. It's a pity that they are wearing masks.
Last year in spring I often heard from virus experts, that the number of dark figures could be 10 times higher than the actual number of positive PCR test results (infected people). Today Germany has over 1.8 million officially cured people. If the dark figure is still 10 times higher, Germany has over 18 million cured people. Very good news, they don't need vaccine. More for me and for everyone who want this good stuff.
Since it is about death and life, I can't recommend to think about the corona victims every day. Better do something else, like practicing with snowballs. Do it like police, built small troops, 10 to 15 guys, fast feet, move quick, be aggressive.
Good luck, General Info.What mean 1,8 million German cured? Vaccined? Then protected for how long? Really protected versus mutants? I think Germany is clever to try to protect their citizens health. Much more important than brothels.
GuyBrusg1957
01-31-21, 05:54
Has anyone used kaufmich, ladies de or registered for freiclub? Is it worth it?
ExpatLover
01-31-21, 06:58
Has anyone used kaufmich, ladies de or registered for freiclub? Is it worth it?I used a lot Kaufmich, contrary to a serious escort agency you have to make the selection, all kind of girls are there but mostly veteran prostitutes, only very few real natural beauties but I was lucky enough to met 2. To find what you are looking for you need to be very active and to be ready to get insulted. I always made a appointment in the lobby of my hotel with a clear contract if the girl is not what I was looking for we don t go to my room and I just pay the taxi, a lot of girls will refuse it but even for those who were coming I only went to the room with 30 percent.
Has anyone used kaufmich, ladies de or registered for freiclub? Is it worth it?I've tried 6 today and sexdo, there won't be much difference. What I have found is that you need to make a lot of calls to find someone and that daytime workers are very hard to find. I would not pay to join freiclub.
Many German girls, many at Bruggen, told to also work escorting, on kaufmich or else, but I only paid 100/60 for few of them in clubs, when most of these claimed escorts were not even the prettiest girls in clubs for me. Found only one really wow, being informed by guy who paid me to see my performance at Bruggen, 1,77 real model type who was really exceptional for love sex, weekly from end of November 2017 to March 2018 , asking to make Sylvester together, but had to return to family.
JoeyFeliney
02-01-21, 02:30
In which FKK clubs (Before COVID and Lockdowns etc) do / did the girls have to share the locker / changing room with the guys or have their changing room visible so us guys can watch them come in and have to take all their clothes off whilst we enjoy the unwrapping?
Yes I know they will all be walking around naked but like Christmas and birthdays the unwrapping is part of the fun and seeing the girls go from civilians to naked and available would be a real turn on, like the opening scene in Debbie Dallas or the fantasy of getting to be in the cheerleaders changing room.
Also did they have a shift change time when the come in as a group or queue outside? As oppose to having to wait around for one at a time.
ExpatLover
02-01-21, 07:21
Many German girls, many at Bruggen, told to also work escorting, on kaufmich or else, but I only paid 100/60 for few of them in clubs, when most of these claimed escorts were not even the prettiest girls in clubs for me. Found only one really wow, being informed by guy who paid me to see my performance at Bruggen, 1,77 real model type who was really exceptional for love sex, weekly from end of November 2017 to March 2018, asking to make Sylvester together, but had to return to family.Before meeting any escort in Germany I want to speak with her on the phone so I can check if she is German or not. On KM the girls always asked me to send a picture which was also fine for me. I am looking younger.
HammerTime96
02-01-21, 12:50
Today I heard in German propaganda radio (RTL) that 4 out of 5 Germans believe that corona is a big dangerous threat. This could mean that over 16 million Germans are dumb, crazy, egoistic, denying corona and believe in fantastic theories.Indeed, so good luck restarting FKK clubs, even after the "vaccine. "
Many people have been psychologically traumatized by the non-stop propaganda and fear mongering by the media and politicians, just look at the crap that some members here post which is almost always without any facts or links.
They have been so scared to death, that they are afraid of living.
Both working girls and customers will not be coming back to FKK clubs any time soon, so expect a lot of bankruptcies in FKK clubs, because they will need a large volume of customers and girls to pay for their monthly overhead like rent, staff, food, cleaning, and heating. This will take years to recover, and I seriously doubt that most FKK clubs have the financial endurance to last this long.
Thank you to all fear mongers here, your "mission" to destroy P6 has been accomplished!
Now the large majority of member here can ignore my posts again, and go back to talking about anal rimming and DFK-ing a prostitute who rimmed another customer 10 minutes before, because apparently that is "safe" and you won't catch any (new or mutated) Corona viruses from that! LOL!
Before meeting any escort in Germany I want to speak with her on the phone so I can check if she is German or not. On KM the girls always asked me to send a picture which was also fine for me. I am looking younger.Most of WGs prefer to go with quite old than young guys. New German Globe superstar refuses to go with young and run to geriatric. I meant some really German, no doubt about, tell to also work as escort, but most of them are not pretty enough for me to pay for. German don't mean beauty for me in brothels, German girls in streets are usually prettier on average than many silicon, tattooed, porn looks in brothels, even had few German beauties in brothels for 100/60. I also paid my German escort I discovered, being informed, in a club, always 50 per 30 mn and we never spoke about money since discovery, but usually for 2 h30 or 3 hours for sex marathon with many rounds without viagra, but with strength and stamina from sport. I spent more than 4 hours for full sex marathon with Russian Katea at Samya for 350 €. Not many WGs could resist, like Katea or my German escorts with great vagina potential and stamina for both, impressive.
When clubs open or about escorts, nothing changed for me about covid, even being over 50, but kissing girls. My only question is: where are beauties, where is quality, because I hate to waste my money for average. Had many pretty girls on 2020 which was not so bad, even not many pretty escorts now in Paris, unfortunately, but I was happy with my last, really charming Ukrainian who seduced me with her behavior, and after more complicated now about safety job when I have to work in the cold on the field, I would lose too much money waiting to be paid by french government and would lose my activity, ski Worldcup and a discount shopping week end, I should return to enjoy her, but Garmisch Partenkirchen famous Kandahar men downhill on next Saturday, before wonderful Cortina Ampezzo with Tofane, majectic Dolomiti for world championships, when looking forward my own ski, most important for me on this Winter, I need to ski.
TonyMontanaaO7
02-02-21, 14:18
The German FKK sex clubs have been closed down because of health reasons. In addition to the corona virus, some FKK clubs, such as FKK Artemis, have issues with matters of trafficking of women, tax evasion, and an association with organized crime.
Tomorrow, wish for Garmisch Partenkirchen legendary Kandahar, to dream a bit, before wonderful Cortina Ampezzo with Tofane for world championships.
Tomorrow, wish for Garmisch Partenkirchen legendary Kandahar, to dream a bit, before wonderful Cortina Ampezzo with Tofane for world championships.Apparently the Cortina run is a disaster. Like one natural turn with the environment. The rest is would be giant slalom down a straight run. I don't know, but it didn't sound so promising. Maybe the cameramen manage to make it look somewhat fun still.
Apparently the Cortina run is a disaster. Like one natural turn with the environment. The rest is would be giant slalom down a straight run. I don't know, but it didn't sound so promising. Maybe the cameramen manage to make it look somewhat fun still.When Wengen. Ch legendary Lauberhorn where racers go for more than 160 km / h, was cancelled because cluster in Wengen after Christmas and Sylvester, when only short Kandahar, not real one, in Garmisch. De, only Kitzbühel. At with amazing last vault on first race, really wish Swiss Urs Krienbuhl will be fine after such scary fall, when Kvitfjell should be cancelled when Norway forbid foreigners even with negative test, but when Cortina is really wonderful with Tofane all around and what a great super giant race on Thursday with amazing vault after 20 seconds, first, Walder. At jumped 55 meters long, then giant specialist Loïsee Meillard couldn't turn after vault, 3 first racers were out, couldn't turn right, when they are best skiers in the world, I just laugh when I hear about sport in gym, when these guys jump 50 meters and as soon they land, they have to turn sharp, but the best specialist, Krichmayer. At won the race, so, kind of logical, even on a extreme race and despite under covid, when Inerhoffer. It was disappointing. Today should be great women downhill with amazing Tofane vault, and tomorrow for men on same slope than super giant. Great slopes and point of view all around for Cortina for world championships. Also today, race climbing through forest to chalet Raynard Mont Ventoux, nice, will make stars in my eyes, looking forward going again, like every Summer since 2004. If can t ski in France on this Winter, but wish when Summer season will start, maybe for Tignes grande motte and 2 Alps, then I could cross Girose glacier, needing to push for more than 1 hour at 3500 meters high, to open and clean my lungs and warm my legs which burn, for next climbing, and want to try for Klein Matterhorn Zermatt. Ch but from Breuil Cervinia. It, dreaming about the extreme run through forbidden lines in Switzerland, slaloming between crevaces and below the big rock. When You feel alive, full of adrenaline, when at the bottom, looking at your line marked in snow, then You made your day happy. I like to make my days being enjoyment.
HammerTime96
02-13-21, 19:12
The German FKK sex clubs have been closed down because of health reasons. In addition to the corona virus, some FKK clubs, such as FKK Artemis, have issues with matters of trafficking of women, tax evasion, and an association with organized crime.How many FKK clubs have already declared insolvency after the harassment by police and now the Corona GeStaPo is anyone's guess, and this will only be visible when (or if) the sex clubs reopen again. People here prefer to stick their heads in the sand.
So far, the standard that Germany uses to decide on lockdowns has been the number of infections per 100 k inhabitants over the last 7 days, the so-called "Inzidenzwert. " ('incident value') Is this number above 50 per 100000 then Germany continues to be in a lockdown, event hough locally, this value might be way below 50.
Recent political moves indicate that Merkel (in a very controversial move) now wants to lower this 'Incident Value' to 35, and there are even voices in the media (quoting "scientists" that are on the government's payroll) that are speculating that the number should be reduced to as low as 10.
In German, try running this through Google Translate for those that can't read German: https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/politik/inland/ziel-inzidenzwert-lockerungen-lockdown-100.html.
In English: https://www.thelocal.de/20210212/merkel-proposes-plan-to-gradually-relax-covid-19-restrictions-february (notice how the State Media is giving this a positive spin).
https://www.thelocal.de/20210128/germanys-coronavirus-infection-rate-falls-below-100-for-first-time-since-october
In other words: the bar that is used to justify lockdowns is continually being lowered, leading to permanent lockdowns. In addition you can add to this the enormously slow and bureaucratic manner with which Germany is vaccinating people, then another lockdown from autumn of 2021 until spring 2022 is almost guaranteed. Merkel already publicly stated that "there will be no new freedoms until enough people have been vaccinated, and it is clear that the virus can not be spread through people who have already been vaccinated. " https://youtu.be/SNqW1t9C18Q (make sure to activate auto-generated translation in the subtitles).
By the way, the irony is that this value of "50 per 100 k" dates back to March 2020, because "50" was the supposedly the maximum number where authorities could still manage to conduct contact tracing. Why haven't more people been recruited to trace contacts in case of an infection, so that the economy can be reopened sooner!? Why does this number now suddenly have to be reduced to 35? Isn't the economy bankrupt enough already?
Want to go mongering in Germany in 2021? Forget about it, and probably forget about 2022 as well! Don't forget to thank the usual suspects (working for Big Pharma!) & scaremongers on this forum!
Scroll all the way to the bottom: https://www.thelocal.de/20210127/german-state-proposes-plan-for-coming-out-of-covid-19-lockdown.
Stage 1: Incidence is stable below 25 for seven days.
Contact restrictions: Up to 10 people from several households are to be allowed to meet again.
Schools: There shall be unrestricted regular activities there again.
Universities: Face-to-face lectures for first-year students in groups are to be allowed. Classroom exams are to take place under hygiene regulations, but without a limit on the number of participants.
Hospitality: Bars and pubs should be allowed to reopen. However, guests must have fixed seats and provide their contact details. A hygiene concept is to be required. Should the incidence remain stable below 25 beyond the seven days, the 10pm curfew will be lifted.
Leisure: Theatres, concert halls and cinemas are to be allowed to open to the general public, albeit with limited numbers of people. Libraries can be used again under hygiene conditions, as well as amusement parks.Notice how under "hospitality" and "sport" it still has tons of restrictions, making FKK clubbing either impossible or undesirable.
When Wengen. Ch legendary Lauberhorn where racers go for more than 160 km / h, was cancelled because cluster in Wengen after Christmas and Sylvester, when only short Kandahar, not real one, in Garmisch. De, only Kitzbhel. At with amazing last vault on first race, really wish Swiss Urs Krienbuhl will be fine after such scary fall, when Kvitfjell should be cancelled when Norway forbid foreigners even with negative test, but when Cortina is really wonderful with Tofane all around and what a great super giant race on Thursday with amazing vault after 20 seconds, first, Walder. At jumped 55 meters long, then giant specialist Losee Meillard couldn't turn after vault, 3 first racers were out, couldn't turn right, when they are best skiers in the world, I just laugh when I hear about sport in gym, when these guys jump 50 meters and as soon they land, they have to turn sharp, but the best specialist, Krichmayer. At won the race, so, kind of logical, even on a extreme race and despite under covid, when Inerhoffer. It was disappointing. Today should be great women downhill with amazing Tofane vault, and tomorrow for men on same slope than super giant. Great slopes and point of view all around for Cortina for world championships. Also today, race climbing through forest to chalet Raynard Mont Ventoux, nice, will make stars in my eyes, looking forward going again, like every Summer since 2004. If can t ski in France on this Winter, but wish when Summer season will start, maybe for Tignes grande motte and 2 Alps, then I could cross Girose glacier, needing to push for more than 1 hour at 3500 meters high, to open and clean my lungs and warm my legs which burn, for next climbing, and want to try for Klein Matterhorn Zermatt. Ch but from Breuil Cervinia. It, dreaming about the extreme run through forbidden lines in Switzerland, slaloming between crevaces and below the big rock. When You feel alive, full of adrenaline, when at the bottom, looking at your line marked in snow, then You made your day happy. I like to make my days being enjoyment.After 3 first guys were out after 25 seconds, then other guys heard from trainers: slow down before vault, some were lost when they always heard since they started to ski: push, faster, so didn't know how to slow, some becoming too slow not jumping at all, had to be able to adapt. Today, no jump on Tofane vault for girls, maybe because too many racers, girls and guys, were broken on this Winter, when more difficult to prepare under covid. But really beautiful Cortina. Wait for guys downhill tomorrow.
How many FKK clubs have already declared insolvency after the harassment by police and now the Corona GeStaPo is anyone's guess, and this will only be visible when (or if) the sex clubs reopen again. People here prefer to stick their heads in the sand.
So far, the standard that Germany uses to decide on lockdowns has been the number of infections per 100 k inhabitants over the last 7 days, the so-called "Inzidenzwert. " ('incident value') Is this number above 50 per 100000 then Germany continues to be in a lockdown, event hough locally, this value might be way below 50.
Recent political moves indicate that Merkel (in a very controversial move) now wants to lower this 'Incident Value' to 35, and there are even voices in the media (quoting "scientists" that are on the government's payroll) that are speculating that the number should be reduced to as low as 10.
In German, try running this through Google Translate for those that can't read German: https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/politik/inland/ziel-inzidenzwert-lockerungen-lockdown-100.html.
In English: https://www.thelocal.de/20210212/merkel-proposes-plan-to-gradually-relax-covid-19-restrictions-february (notice how the State Media is giving this a positive spin).
https://www.thelocal.de/20210128/germanys-coronavirus-infection-rate-falls-below-100-for-first-time-since-october.Even under very strict lockdown since Christmas, much more strict than in France or Italy or Spain, but Germany is much suffering under second wave than under first wave when they managed not bad at this past time, and I m pretty sure UK, south African and Brazilian variants are already in Germany which even thought to buy sputnik which is not allowed at the moment in France, to get more vaccine, but did Russians give all information's about sputnik? To get medical allowance. They didn't yet in France. I agree to try to save life rather than thinking about brothels which are risky places for virus spreading. Maybe warmer weather will help for a while, organisms making more vitamin Di under sun and warm, like on last Summer.
BigBuddy69
02-14-21, 17:56
Want to go mongering in Germany in 2021? Forget about it, and probably forget about 2022 as well! Don't forget to thank the usual suspects (working for Big Pharma!) & scaremongers on this forum!.If you really think that the mongers here have some leverage on the political decisions then you're totally paranoid. As for Big Pharma (and Georges Soros, the Deep State, Bill Gates, Israel and so on), their interest would be to have more people contaminated since they sell the vaccine. More sick people=more money. So they would advocate for a reopening of every public place. Where is the logic in all of this?
HammerTime96
02-15-21, 10:50
If you really think that the mongers here have some leverage on the political decisions then you're totally paranoid. As for Big Pharma (and Georges Soros, the Deep State, Bill Gates, Israel and so on), their interest would be to have more people contaminated since they sell the vaccine. More sick people=more money. So they would advocate for a reopening of every public place. Where is the logic in all of this?The big conglomerates are making a killing off Covid19 and are raking in the profits.
Just look at the list of billionaires that is growing every day. US billionaires have had a $1,1 trillion windfall from Covid19: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/26/us-billionaires-have-received-11tn-windfall-in-covid-pandemic.
It's mostly the small independent businesses (hint; FKK clubs + the girls working in these clubs) like restaurants, gyms, bars who do not have good political connections for a bail out, that are paying the heavy price.
The big conglomerates are making a killing off Covid19 and are raking in the profits.
Just look at the list of billionaires that is growing every day. US billionaires have had a $1,1 trillion windfall from Covid19: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/26/us-billionaires-have-received-11tn-windfall-in-covid-pandemic.
It's mostly the small independent businesses (hint; FKK clubs + the girls working in these clubs) like restaurants, gyms, bars who do not have good political connections for a bail out, that are paying the heavy price.Big conglomerates eh? I recall a series of posts here where a handful of people said that they saw their net worth grow substantially during COVID19. I certainly have seen a 100% increase in investment value myself. Anyone else here part of the big conglomerate elite conspiracy?
The big conglomerates are making a killing off Covid19 and are raking in the profits.
Just look at the list of billionaires that is growing every day. US billionaires have had a $1,1 trillion windfall from Covid19: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/26/us-billionaires-have-received-11tn-windfall-in-covid-pandemic.Even before CV19, tech companies like Amazon were predicted to be big winners due to automation and AI. CV19 only accelerated that trend. This is precisely the reason why the article you posted talks about how to tax and regulate these big tech companies. And if that happens, then your Jeff Bezos of the world will see a huge dent in their net worth. Zuckerberg had a phenomenal 2019 and 2020, but he also lost $18 billion in 2018. If these billionaires were conspiring together, then was that "2018 loss" just staged? During 2020, many billionaires (oil, retail, hotel magnates) saw huge decreases in their net worth, one being Carlos Slim who at one time was the richest man in the world. https://www.lovemoney.com/gallerylist/96277/the-biggest-billionaire-winners-and-losers-of-the-past-year.
Big conglomerates eh? I recall a series of posts here where a handful of people said that they saw their net worth grow substantially during COVID19. I certainly have seen a 100% increase in investment value myself. Anyone else here part of the big conglomerate elite conspiracy?With historically low interest rates and sharp increase of money printing since March 2020, the Fed seems committed to propping up the stock market. Can that go on indefinitely? The influx of novice millennial retail investors in 2020 could be fueling a bubble. Current marketing conditions makes everyone look like a genius, especially millennials who are willing to take more risks. The Cane says he benefited substantially by buying at the dip, but has since taken profit. For his situation, that makes sense. There is an opportunity cost to pulling out early, as he would have missed the large run up the last three months. But if he is close to retirement, he might as well cash out some of his positions while he is ahead, because if there is a crash and the market loses say 50 percent of its value, he has less time to wait out the recovery. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL.
The prevailing investment style of the predominantly Gen-Z and Millennials is to buy momentum stocks. This entails finding a fast-moving stock and jumping on the bandwagon. The key is to pop off before the stock falls. It's like picking up dollar bills in front of a moving steamroller. You can scoop up a lot of money, but if you make one misstep, you'll be run over and squished like a bug.
For the most part, the novice investors are fearless. Why shouldn't they be? From the March Covid-19 lows, the stock market has rebounded about 70%. All they know is that stocks always go up. Scores of newly minted, self-taught traders are buying stocks and quickly selling to lock in profits and collaborate with each other on sites, such as Reddit, TikTok and Discord.
There's also the question of whether the active traders are colluding together, in what used to be called a pump-and-dump scheme.
According to their self-reported results, it looks like the amateur traders are handily beating the pros and taking great delight in that fact. The investment strategy is simple and straightforward: "respect the pump" or "I see a stock going up and I buy it. Then, I watch it until it stops going up and I sell it." Old-fashioned concepts like studying balance sheets, profit and loss statements and researching price-to-earnings ratios are ignored.
It will be interesting to see how long this trend continues. In past bull markets, we've seen regular everyday people become day traders. It lasted until the market corrected or crashed.
On Reddit, a thread started with the question, Is the fact that there are now countless TikTok influencers giving stock advice a concern for anyone else? The Redditor added, As the saying goes, be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful."
He forewarns, TikTok now contains hundreds of accounts of kids giving advice on trading, really leaning toward getting out of the market for a while. This feels like the epitome of the shoeshine boy giving stock advice.
This refers to the story of Joe Kennedy, the father of President John F. Kennedy and shrewd Wall Street investor known for his questionable practices. He famously got out of the stock market just before the Great Depression and stock market crash when the kid who shined his shoes started giving the elder Kennedy stock tips. He figured if even a shoeshine boy was into the stock market, everyone else was too and there was nowhere for it go, but down.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2021/01/25/freewheeling-millennials-and-gen-zers-are-starting-a-new-side-hustle-career-aggressively-trading-stocks-online-minting-money-and-showing-up-the-wall-street-pros/?sh=70c0bdb27b9e
I do not know if we are quite at the point of a shoeshine boy being a stock-expert yet, but maybe close: https://www.statista.com/statistics/270034/percentage-of-us-adults-to-have-money-invested-in-the-stock-market/.
With historically low interest rates and sharp increase of money printing since March 2020, the Fed seems committed to propping up the stock market. Can that go on indefinitely? The influx of novice millennial retail investors in 2020 could be fueling a bubble. Current marketing conditions makes everyone look like a genius, especially millennials who are willing to take more risks. The Cane says he benefited substantially by buying at the dip, but has since taken profit. For his situation, that makes sense. There is an opportunity cost to pulling out early, as he would have missed the large run up the last three months. But if he is close to retirement, he might as well cash out some of his positions while he is ahead, because if there is a crash and the market loses say 50 percent of its value, he has less time to wait out the recovery. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL.I do not know if we are quite at the point of a shoeshine boy being a stock-expert yet, but maybe close: https://www.statista.com/statistics/270034/percentage-of-us-adults-to-have-money-invested-in-the-stock-market/.Right, a monkey could have made money in the stock market this past year and the young people who think it is perennially so easy will be in for a rude awakening. But the market is only a part of the picture that adds to the net worth jump.
1.) Despite all of the talks of people hitting hard times, the average citizens of developed nations have seen a rise in net worth and savings. In the US, the people who lost are the bottom 10-15%. The rest of the nation kept their jobs while many working from home, they saved money, and some invested wisely or were lucky. What's happening in developed nations is just a microcosm of the entire world as the same trend has been seen when comparing poor nations who will feel the economic impact much worse than developed nations.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-household-wealth-hits-record-despite-coronavirus-pandemic
Www.dw.com/en/un-covid-19-to-worsen-poverty-in-47-poorest-nations/a-55799928
2.) The continued rise in real estate prices pads the net worth of home owners (65% of households in the US and over 50% in most developed nations). There are some hold outs but it seems that more experts than not predict that home prices will continue to rise due to a lack of inventory in developed nations. With globally low interest rates, the demand will not see a drop in at least a few years where supply can catch up. Either boomers have to die or builders have to rev up production to increase inventory. Perhaps the number of senior citizen covid deaths will contribute to increase inventory?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brendarichardson/2020/12/16/experts-predict-what-the-housing-market-will-be-like-in-2021/?sh=3d0ada9f36dc
3.) It's becoming more and more evident that we will not have an immediate stock market crash the likes of 2008-2011. Rather, the K-shape split of the market seems to be the likely scenario with innovative companies continuing to soar and traditional companies that do not adapt remaining stagnant. So much money flooded into the market this year and with bonds being deemed to be in a definite bubble and interest rates set to stay low for another year or two or three, people have few other places to put their money.
4.) As for retail investors, I'm not sold on their effect on the total market. Institutions still own over 50% of the SP500. To put it in perspective, Robinhood (the most notable millennial retail investor platform) holds $20 billion in investor assets. For comparison, traditional brokers like TD Ameritrade and Charles Schwab hold assets in the trillions of dollars. Basically, these retail investors have the power to move stock prices but no where near enough assets to move entire markets alone.
https://www.businessofapps.com/data/robinhood-statistics/
For most of the people who visit this forum, unless they are small business owners in the wrong sector, they probably saw a jump in net worth whether or not they benefited from stock market gains. The reality is that most people are white collar wage earners that probably did not suffer much economically in 2020.
(I'm no financial guru. Most of what I wrote was just regurgitated from YouTube talking heads.).
3.) It's becoming more and more evident that we will not have an immediate stock market crash the likes of 2008-2011. Rather, the K-shape split of the market seems to be the likely scenario with innovative companies continuing to soar and traditional companies that do not adapt remaining stagnant. So much money flooded into the market this year and with bonds being deemed to be in a definite bubble and interest rates set to stay low for another year or two or three, people have few other places to put their money.
4.) As for retail investors, I'm not sold on their effect on the total market. Institutions still own over 50% of the SP500. To put it in perspective, Robinhood (the most notable millennial retail investor platform) holds $20 billion in investor assets. For comparison, traditional brokers like TD Ameritrade and Charles Schwab hold assets in the trillions of dollars. Basically, these retail investors have the power to move stock prices but no where near enough assets to move entire markets alone.Are the surging stock market and home prices seem the result of financial engineering by the Fed? All the financial and monetary stimulus and QE that has fueled this "artificial boom" has been going on for some time. The Obama administration doubled public debt. At the time he left office, it sat att $14 trillion. Four years later, the debt now sits at $27 trillion. Borrowing more money to service payments for existing debt is fine "for now". As long as investors are getting paid now, and continue to believe they will paid back in the future, they will keep buying more American debt. But nobody is able to predict if and when investors might lose confidence. American politicians will not commit political suicide by increasing taxes. If debt continues accumulating (which seems like the only likely scenario), and investors lose confidence, they will back off. Then the economy takes a hit, and then even more investors back off, potentially triggering the next global financial crisis.
Does the K-Shape recovery bode well for the politically stability in the future? If you are in your early 20's, you likely did not benefit from the surging stock market and home prices. Perhaps the whites from this younger cohort might benefit down the road if they get some inheritance from their boomer parents. But young Blacks, "Latinx", rustbelt Whites will have been left on the sidelines, and I suspect they may be the ones who will be the powder keg for civil unrest.
If political instability causes Treasury bonds to become riskier assets, it could undermine the entire banking system -- and by extension, every American company and the jobs of the people they employ.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-01-12/how-government-instability-undermines-the-u-s-economy.Apparently 43 percent of retail investors are trading with leverage. A lot of these retail investors will be the ones who will be hurt the most if the stock market crashes. It seems like Fed has shot all its bullets already, and so the next time there is a crisis, will they be able to come in and save the day? Will the sell-off trigger a domino-effect? If that's the case, the retail investors who joined the party late will be the ones left holding onto a worthless piece of paper, just like every other crash in history. If these retail investors went all-in, and lose their job, only having a few months of cash reserve, they will be the ones forced to sell off their portfolio at a loss. I suppose that only hurts the individual, but what if large swathes of population can't pay off their debts (credit card, car, home, student)? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/43-of-retail-investors-are-trading-with-leverage-survey-172744302.html.
The Cane says he benefited substantially by buying at the dip, but has since taken profit. For his situation, that makes sense. There is an opportunity cost to pulling out early, as he would have missed the large run up the last three months. But if he is close to retirement, he might as well cash out some of his positions while he is ahead, because if there is a crash and the market loses say 50 percent of its value, he has less time to wait out the recovery.You got that right! I can't afford to be taking any massive losses at this time. I did do well by buying at the dip, and got out early. I missed a big run up, but it's OK. Actually, I jumped back in for just a short bit a couple of months ago and rode a nice wave in the DOW up to about 31,458, then I jumped right back out again, taking the profits and no losses. That's what I'm doing. Looking to get in when I see a chance to ride a wave in, then get back out before that wave rolls back out to sea again. A crash is coming, and it's going to be very, very, very ugly. But, I think we still have some time. There's going to be an explosion of economic activity once we get on the other side of this virus. That's a wave I definitely don't want to miss! And I think it will happen in 2022. But after that, look out!
Are the surging stock market and home prices seem the result of financial engineering by the Fed? All the financial and monetary stimulus and QE that has fueled this "artificial boom" has been going on for some time. The Obama administration doubled public debt. At the time he left office, it sat att $14 trillion. Four years later, the debt now sits at $27 trillion. Borrowing more money to service payments for existing debt is fine "for now". As long as investors are getting paid now, and continue to believe they will paid back in the future, they will keep buying more American debt. But nobody is able to predict if and when investors might lose confidence. American politicians will not commit political suicide by increasing taxes. If debt continues accumulating (which seems like the only likely scenario), and investors lose confidence, they will back off. Then the economy takes a hit, and then even more investors back off, potentially triggering the next global financial crisis.
Does the K-Shape recovery bode well for the politically stability in the future? If you are in your early 20's, you likely did not benefit from the surging stock market and home prices. Perhaps the whites from this younger cohort might benefit down the road if they get some inheritance from their boomer parents. But young Blacks, "Latinx", rustbelt Whites will have been left on the sidelines, and I suspect they may be the ones who will be the powder keg for civil unrest..To be fair to Trump, your $27 T number included intergovernmental holdings while the number you quoted for Obama did not. The true debt after Obama was nearly $20 T. And Trump's number would have been under $25 T if it were not for over $3 T in COVID relief spending. That number play was how Clinton was able to say that he created a surplus. In actuality there was no real surplus during the Clinton years; he just "borrowed" from intergovernmental holds (money owed to social security and Medicaid).
Besides, I think debt is a little overplayed. American debt in itself does not paint the entire economic investment potential. One has to consider assets and GDP in relation to debt. As long as we carry our assets (military, government patents, territories, etc) and maintain an annual deficit to GDP ratio under 100%, we remain a viable "investment", so long as America remains the center for innovation. And current business trends in the US still makes us the strongest nation in the world for that. Perhaps largely due to our size, we still lead the world in most major disruptive innovation industries: genomics, robotics, energy, AI, and blockchain / FinancialTech.
In short, remember, investors are in it to make money and getting the principal back is not the motive. As long as we are solvent enough to pay interest by increasing GDP through innovation, America remains an attractive investment. Related to this is my skepticism of a market bubble as current generations (GenX and Millenials) pumps money into innovation rather than Boomers putting it into service and manufacturing. A pull back is inevitable as investors take profits but they will just turn around and put it back in to catch the next innovation wave.
However your point regarding social unrest may weigh in. The K recovery will surely make the sentiments worst. Risks is even greater these days as witnessed by the ease of organizing antiestablishment mobs. Wealth gaps and effects on civil unrest is a real danger. Therefore I believe the biggest threat will be the effects of increasing inflation in the coming years. That fuels my skepticism of ideas such as universal basic income and minimum wage increases.
That number of 43% leveraged is surprising although it shouldn't be. The ease and absorbent amount in which brokerages give me margin is plain ridiculous and irresponsible. Without knowledge of current income or credit history, I can instantly access nearly 100% of my equities value on margin. Some brokerages even offer rates as low as 2.5%!
For perspective, I was instantly given enough margin to buy a modest home for just 2. 5% interest! To make matters more dangerous, retail brokerage Robinhood allows you to make debit card purchases using the same margin allotment at the same interest rate! Compare that to 18-22% interest on most major credit cards or the 2. 5 to 3% mortgage rates given only after a very thorough credit and income verification process!
I think we have a lot of brainiacs on ISG given that 80% to 95% of investors lose on the stock market.
I think we have a lot of brainiacs on ISG given that 80% to 95% of investors lose on the stock market.I recently gained another $20,000 to my overall portfolio, then got back out again hehehe! I don't know that it's much about being a "braniac". You just have to start investing early and keep putting money in over a long horizon. And as time goes by, start getting more and more conservative. But, you can't go 100% conservative and stay there forever either. You're going to always need some growth just to account for inflation. I hope I can retire one day. Then, I'm just going to butt fuck my life away LOLOLOL!
I think we have a lot of brainiacs on ISG given that 80% to 95% of investors lose on the stock market.Is that true? Do 85% of investors actually lose on the stock market? If so, why are there so many people regularly putting money in long term retirement plans that mostly invest in stocks and bonds. Perhaps you're talking about traders underperforming when compared to the growth of the entire market. But 85% lose money, as in net negative? I'm highly skeptical.
In this time when I really impress myself and not even able to find a wow escort among so many in Paris, met only twice a really charming Ukrainian on this year, but each time I hear Lili Wood singing: You want my money, I can t help smiling thinking WGs should sing this to their peste fish pimp. When I asked some if they don't have a so in love BF at home, most answered: what for? I have enough sex here and he would be more interested by my money. In France, we don t speak about money when meeting, I never did, not a criteria for choice.
BigBuddy69
03-08-21, 06:02
Germany forbids their citizens to go to Switzerland just as much as they forbid their citizens to go to France.
https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/aussenpolitik/laender/frankreich-node/frankreichsicherheit/209524
Maybe Germans don't like French either.Only the ones who misbehave and act like public enemies.
Germany forbids their citizens to go to Switzerland just as much as they forbid their citizens to go to France.
https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/aussenpolitik/laender/frankreich-node/frankreichsicherheit/209524
Maybe Germans don't like French either.When I m not France, but just one citizen, so many Germans love France, coming to spend holidays or to live for our quality of life, same like many UK. Among older Germans, some seem like feeling guilty about history. Be sure, if I think Swiss administration are robbers, when they robbed me, but I don t forget all my time spent in Switzerland, mostly in Wallis, or my girlfriend for 1 year in Neuchâtel and met her family, I like Swiss people, I don t find them arrogant as I often heard in Germany. But all is not green in Switzerland. I was surprised cocaine was for free for girls in some ZH clubs. Good, girls don't pay entry at Amesia when they didn't make business.
PaulInZurich
03-08-21, 16:38
When I m not France, but just one citizen, so many Germans love France, coming to spend holidays or to live for our quality of life, same like many UK. Among older Germans, some seem like feeling guilty about history. Be sure, if I think Swiss administration are robbers, when they robbed me, but I don t forget all my time spent in Switzerland, mostly in Wallis, or my girlfriend for 1 year in Neuchtel and met her family, I like Swiss people, I don t find them arrogant as I often heard in Germany. But all is not green in Switzerland. I was surprised cocaine was for free for girls in some ZH clubs. Good, girls don't pay entry at Amesia when they didn't make business.My point was that German authorities were saying the same thing for both France and Switzerland.
They warned against unnecessary tourist trips to France due to the high number of infections, same like for Switzerland. Which is kinda different from "Germany forbid their citizens to go to Switzerland."
My point was that German authorities were saying the same thing for both France and Switzerland.
They warned against unnecessary tourist trips to France due to the high number of infections, same like for Switzerland. Which is kinda different from "Germany forbid their citizens to go to Switzerland."Angela was the first to ask EU to keep ski resorts closed, not to make clusters, France and Italy followed, and all 3 didn't like Switzerland behavior attracting tourists and UK with mutant, all for money. I was surprised about more than 9300 deaths for 8,5 millions citizens, in a rich country, when virus kill more poor than rich.
PaulInZurich
03-09-21, 03:40
Angela was the first to ask EU to keep ski resorts closed, not to make clusters, France and Italy followed, and all 3 didn't like Switzerland behavior attracting tourists and UK with mutant, all for money. I was surprised about more than 9300 deaths for 8,5 millions citizens, in a rich country, when virus kill more poor than rich.I agree that Angela Merkel has the final word in the EU, that Germany is driving policy. Every other country in the EU is playing second fiddle.
I agree that Angela Merkel has the final word in the EU, that Germany is driving policy. Every other country in the EU is playing second fiddle.You just see from your small Switzerland ready for anything for money, when we can't disagree when she just tries to protect her citizens, after 72 000 deaths, when Germans like safety, and until elections for after her, who will take risk for virus playfield?
HammerTime96
03-10-21, 20:27
I agree that Angela Merkel has the final word in the EU, that Germany is driving policy. Every other country in the EU is playing second fiddle.Yes, the EU-SSR is dominated by Merkel and Angela has all 'her' people throughout the EU bureaucracy, including Ursula von der Leyen who cheated on her doctorate scripture, yet Merkel is just the 'sock puppet' for the globalists that control her.
Merkel is most likely blackmailed by the globalists and the big-industry pharma lobbyist like who probably have her Stasi file, because isn't it strange that the Stasi file of Merkel has 'disappeared' and that nobody is allowed to ask questions about this? It's an open secret that both Angela (born Kasner) Merkel and her father Horst Kasner (nicknamed "Red Kasner") have worked for the Stasi, as was well explained by German opposition member Oskar Lafontaine in a popular German talkshow Anne Will in 2008: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrgd8B5fhNw.
Translation: ". You have elected a glowing young communist, a (ideologically) convinced glowing young communist as Chancellor. Do you even understand that? Because Frau Merkel was, *applause* yes, Frau Merkel was FDJ functionary for propaganda and agitation, that could only be done by (ideologically) convinced young communists, and she was allowed to study in Moscow, something only allowed for people following the party lines..[/QUOTE]Just imagine that, millions flee communist East Germany, looking for freedom, but Merkel's father moves in the opposite direction towards a communist dictatorship? And they want people to believe that Merkel is not a hard-core dictatorial communist? / sarc.
"Merkel's challenger publishes his Stasi files" https://www.thelocal.de/20130823/51551/ as an obvious troll to provoke Merkel to release her own Stasi file. LOL!
As always, most problems in Europe stem from Germany and their social-economic engineering fetish and their lust to control the world, be it through Marxism or through naziism. Germans should just build cars and for the rest their country needs to be broken up like the French occupied parts of NRW and Saarland after WW1, and the way the Allies carved up Germany after WW2. For the rest, Germans need to shut the fuck up! Oh yes, and open up those damn FKK clubs! LOL!
BigBuddy69
03-11-21, 07:07
It is absolutely not well known that she worked for the stasi since it's very probably one of your usual fake news:
https://m.dw.com/en/east-german-stasi-tried-to-recruit-merkel-as-a-spy/a-4265402
But once again you're twisting the truth like you always do. So many guys here are living in a fantasy world, it must be a terrible burden to maintain it day by day.
For those who can't control, Zeus, Cleo and Aphrodite are open for club services, History and Westside for direkt zimmer, History with many Globe girls with many silicon, but I find really easy to control claimed addiction, I just miss ski but after real cat Kathrin Zettel who stopped, thanks to Katarina Linsberger, my little sunshine on this Winter, making me dream. I also enjoy free ride tour of course. About bicycle, now we know about UK sky team way to win.
PaulInZurich
03-14-21, 05:18
About bicycle, now we know about UK sky team way to win.Only brits could have believed that they don't dope at Sky, just like Americans in the Armstrong years. For anybody with a passing interest in cycling it was clear from the beginning.
........I find really easy to control claimed addiction....I have more sex when I'm surrounded by hot stunners than when I'm not.
BigBuddy69
03-14-21, 16:32
Only brits could have believed that they don't dope at Sky, just like Americans in the Armstrong years. For anybody with a passing interest in cycling it was clear from the beginning.Or French during the Virenque and Jalabert years.
Or Spaniards during the contador years.
Germans during the Telekom years? Fuck nearly everyone actually!
Only brits could have believed that they don't dope at Sky, just like Americans in the Armstrong years. For anybody with a passing interest in cycling it was clear from the beginning.In this sport and some others like Juventus Torino years ago, we say You are innocent as long You are not caught, but no proof yet versus motorbike Froome, nor Thomas. Despite doping making him addicted to drugs killing him, but Pantani is still a heroe in Italy. Maybe why nowadays they didn't want to go to Zoncolan, but Giro needed, to compete with tour de France fame. Cancellara was also not bad on his electric motorbike, compare to my crappy but very technique prepared 34/36 French Lapierre, everybody looking at rear wheel, You won t find when You buy a more than 5000 € bicycle.
I have more sex when I'm surrounded by hot stunners than when I'm not.My meaning was about some here claiming about others addiction, when they just know nothing. On this Friday at 3 pm, I was at 3 hours driving from Cleo. Be where have a Romanian beauty target, so easy to go and could even test new engine in Germany, but I only thought I wanted to watch ski and again on Saturday for second slalom when she was just exceptional on both, the shy girl becoming fire on the run. But of course, after Leinzerheide finals on next week and week end, when I will find a beauty, image and behavior on my standard, I will be pleased to enjoy her as long it will be win win for both. This is the only game to spend my money, I don t need more and only one should be even better for me, when I don t find so many anyway, often leaving with full balls. As told me number 2 at Globe, when they used to tell about wow experience before, I prefer when You find a good girl for You, full smiling when hearing I enjoyed a girl, when he often saw me leaving with no room. No big problem for me when I hate to waste my money and I m often very frustrated killing my mood by average. No hurry, all is under control, like with WGs who think I m in love, from my way to treat them they never experienced and proud I drive so many kilometers for them, when working while speeding.
In this sport and some others like Juventus Torino years ago, we say You are innocent as long You are not caught, but no proof yet versus motorbike Froome, nor Thomas. Despite doping making him addicted to drugs killing him, but Pantani is still a heroe in Italy. Maybe why nowadays they didn't want to go to Zoncolan, but Giro needed, to compete with tour de France fame. Cancellara was also not bad on his electric motorbike, compare to my crappy but very technique prepared 34/36 French Lapierre, everybody looking at rear wheel, You won t find when You buy a more than 5000 bicycle.You nailed this one pretty well. Although there are even more links regarding Sky that you also could have mentioned. So my respect for that team is close to zero. Same as with Festina, Lampre or Astana.
I always used to like Mapei. But surely there were doping in Mapei at one point also. Yet I never cared since I always supported them.
This is one reason why not to watch stamina sports. Even in Formula 1 there is doping.
Maybe the sports with the least doping in is diving or snowboarding competitions like half-pipe or slopestyle. River kayaking also probably doesn't have doping.
So I get mainly impressed by stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA1JBiy6G20.
You nailed this one pretty well. Although there are even more links regarding Sky that you also could have mentioned. So my respect for that team is close to zero. Same as with Festina, Lampre or Astana.Why I'm stronger than professional racers, they need doping, I only need my passion, they are paid, I do just for my pleasure, really moving my flesh inside me. Many not professional racers use doping, when I love mountains fresh water, I feel it cleans inside me, like Trump about covid. Froome was funny when climbing like a motorbike, turning so fast legs. When Toledo eagle, Federico Bahamontes, legendary climber who has his picture on km 4 in Zoncolan 1 hour driving from Wellcum, started, he stopped on top and waited for others, drinking wine which was doping in the past. Doping even came to change part of blood or with horse female plasma. Doping is quite cultural in Italy, Spain, Russia. Look forward starting my Summer, climbing col Iseran 2765 high to warm up, I like funny donkeys under the tunnel before Tignes waterfront.
PaulInZurich
04-01-21, 02:06
This is one reason why not to watch stamina sports. Even in Formula 1 there is doping.
Maybe the sports with the least doping in is diving or snowboarding competitions like half-pipe or slopestyle. River kayaking also probably doesn't have doping.
So I get mainly impressed by stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA1JBiy6G20.No sport is pure. Sure, the most skill is involved in a sport, the relative importance of doping decreases, but it's still there.
Diving: Ilya Zakharov.
Snowboarding: Matt Hamilton, Nikita Avtaneeve.
Kayaking: Andras Redl, the strange case of Yasuhiro Suzuki and Seiji Komatsu maybe a different type of cheating.
Heck how weird is what is done in paralympics? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-paralympics-boosting-idUSKCN0T61VS20151117.
It's not done for money only.
PaulInZurich
04-01-21, 02:18
You nailed this one pretty well. Although there are even more links regarding Sky that you also could have mentioned. So my respect for that team is close to zero. Same as with Festina, Lampre or Astana.Sky team (and British Cycling) are a bit special because they were selling the marginal gains BS so hard. Astana was keeping quiet while Sky was hypocrisy to the max.
This is one reason why not to watch stamina sports. Even in Formula 1 there is doping.
Maybe the sports with the least doping in is diving or snowboarding competitions like half-pipe or slopestyle. River kayaking also probably doesn't have doping.
So I get mainly impressed by stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA1JBiy6G20.Some not professional, not even earning money, use doping just to improve performances or just to make more muscles. I love performances, I usually give up my climbing's when I feel I'm not good enough and return on next day to try again, but I hate medicines, I prefer fresh milk and mountains water. My passion is my doping, why I'm able to make incredible violent efforts and ignoring pain, not sure so many professionals would do even for money. And now professional bicycle racers just do what their ear tell them, not interesting, when I like when formula 1 pilots say to their engineer: let me do, I feel the car.
ExpatLover
04-01-21, 11:23
My meaning was about some here claiming about others addiction, when they just know nothing. On this Friday at 3 pm, I was at 3 hours driving from Cleo. Be where have a Romanian beauty target, so easy to go and could even test new engine in Germany, but I only thought I wanted to watch ski and again on Saturday for second slalom when she was just exceptional on both, the shy girl becoming fire on the run. But of course, after Leinzerheide finals on next week and week end, when I will find a beauty, image and behavior on my standard, I will be pleased to enjoy her as long it will be win win for both. This is the only game to spend my money, I don t need more and only one should be even better for me, when I don t find so many anyway, often leaving with full balls. As told me number 2 at Globe, when they used to tell about wow experience before, I prefer when You find a good girl for You, full smiling when hearing I enjoyed a girl, when he often saw me leaving with no room. No big problem for me when I hate to waste my money and I m often very frustrated killing my mood by average. No hurry, all is under control, like with WGs who think I m in love, from my way to treat them they never experienced and proud I drive so many kilometers for them, when working while speeding.I will never understand what is the reason to test a engine on a open road, today all the cars have enough power to bring you in safety from point A to point be. Strong men don t need strong cars and engines, they are strong. Why not going on circuits like Nurburgring, or participating on car races, why do you think having the right to put other lives on risk?
Why I'm stronger than professional racers, they need doping, I only need my passion, they are paid, I do just for my pleasure, really moving my flesh inside me. Many not professional racers use doping, when I love mountains fresh water, I feel it cleans inside me, like Trump about covid. Froome was funny when climbing like a motorbike, turning so fast legs. When Toledo eagle, Federico Bahamontes, legendary climber who has his picture on km 4 in Zoncolan 1 hour driving from Wellcum, started, he stopped on top and waited for others, drinking wine which was doping in the past. Doping even came to change part of blood or with horse female plasma. Doping is quite cultural in Italy, Spain, Russia. Look forward starting my Summer, climbing col Iseran 2765 high to warm up, I like funny donkeys under the tunnel before Tignes waterfront.What is wrong with you man? Do you even understand how dumb this is?
Last year an estimated 1. 3 m Romanians went back to Romania—equivalent to three times the population of its second-biggest city.
https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/01/28/how-the-pandemic-reversed-old-migration-patterns-in-europe?utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_medium=social-organic&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Rubh48G2ZPHuORYcSusfXYlUAkqcnMOi9Vdpzo-8kRpk0kkQOEjAGoEg
Last year an estimated 1. 3 m Romanians went back to Romaniaequivalent to three times the population of its second-biggest city.
https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/01/28/how-the-pandemic-reversed-old-migration-patterns-in-europe?utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_medium=social-organic&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Rubh48G2ZPHuORYcSusfXYlUAkqcnMOi9Vdpzo-8kRpk0kkQOEjAGoEgWhen I learned at school in 80's, Romania had 35 millions citizens, but fell to 15 millions in 2000's.
Last year an estimated 1. 3 m Romanians went back to Romaniaequivalent to three times the population of its second-biggest city.
https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/01/28/how-the-pandemic-reversed-old-migration-patterns-in-europe?utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_medium=social-organic&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1Rubh48G2ZPHuORYcSusfXYlUAkqcnMOi9Vdpzo-8kRpk0kkQOEjAGoEgWith their return, I wonder if all of that money earned in the West is now actually being spent in Romania. I keep up with one Romanian WG who seems to have saved up a decent bit of cash from her five years working. She's been home for over a year now and has been living her best life shopping and going out all of the time. If all of the non-WGs who have been abroad for so many years are doing the same, I can see all of that Western money stimulating Romania's retail sector.
BigBuddy69
04-02-21, 05:30
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.TOTL?locations=RO
Max: 23,2 M.
Now: 19,3 M.
Strange, ceaucescu made them fuck like rabbits.
PaulInZurich
04-02-21, 06:40
When I learned at school in 80's, Romania had 35 millions citizens, but fell to 15 millions in 2000's.It must have been a pretty weak school, but I am not surprised in this case. Max Romania population was 23 millions.
With their return, I wonder if all of that money earned in the West is now actually being spent in Romania. I keep up with one Romanian WG who seems to have saved up a decent bit of cash from her five years working. She's been home for over a year now and has been living her best life shopping and going out all of the time. If all of the non-WGs who have been abroad for so many years are doing the same, I can see all of that Western money stimulating Romania's retail sector.Same here with one of my hot, blonde Romies. She's been home for more than a year now, and doesn't look the worse for wear. Always smiling and enjoying life and going with the flow. Good for her.
Saw a video on YouTube a week or two ago from Bucharest regarding the boom in girls on the street trying to make money there. Police and even the minister of labor was defending sex sales even if by law it is illegal.
Don't know what to say to that, but it is what it is.
No sport is pure. Sure, the most skill is involved in a sport, the relative importance of doping decreases, but it's still there.
Diving: Ilya Zakharov.
Snowboarding: Matt Hamilton, Nikita Avtaneeve.
Kayaking: Andras Redl, the strange case of Yasuhiro Suzuki and Seiji Komatsu maybe a different type of cheating.
Heck how weird is what is done in paralympics? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-paralympics-boosting-idUSKCN0T61VS20151117.
It's not done for money only.Fine, though your Canadian snowboarder is a Paralympian slalom expert. And the Russian is just a part of a national doping program. I don't feel like those two examples are that great. But there have been rumors of some doping in order to get higher up in the quarter pipe. Then again, maybe that's why quarter pipe is not an Olympic discipline yet.
When I learned at school in 80's, Romania had 35 millions citizens, but fell to 15 millions in 2000's.The population was at its peak under the leadership of Nicolae Ceausescu but declined after he was deposed?
PaulInZurich
04-02-21, 17:58
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.TOTL?locations=RO
Max: 23,2 M.
Now: 19,3 M.
Strange, ceaucescu made them fuck like rabbits.Ceausescu banned abortions in the late 60's, that brought a bump in the number of births until mid to late 70's. After 1990 and the post communism economy crash many people were leaving. That was made easy when Romania joined the EU. https://www.oecd.org/countries/romania/talent-abroad-a-review-of-romanian-emigrants-bac53150-en.htm.
1. 1 million Romanians living in Italy, 700 k in Germany, more than 600 k in Spain 450 k in UK etc.
Most of the population decline is due to emigration.
The population was at its peak under the leadership of Nicolae Ceausescu but declined after he was deposed?When the wall fell, when people were not paid anymore by government, all ex CCCP countries fell in misery, millions of Romanians left to go to Italy, Spain, France where I work with some. DDR was included by Germany. Romanians I work with tell me they had a better level of life under communism, when life is much more expensive now. Hotel room in Mamaia on black sea is 150/200 € , when my best FKK girl, and she was interesting to chat with at this time, told me on end of 2016 , she made 200/300/ month, working in the biggest restaurant of an average town, not so far from Bucharest, not in far deep Moldavian part. Fortunately, she got tips to get a bit more, but she told: I can t live with only this, and she was I think advised to go to brothels and she could buy a new car with her first month earning, but not for her, and when she told me she returned to family for 1 month and I was happy for her, even we just started, meeting only on 2 visits but already 4 rooms, but she was back after only 10 days, angry to have to return so fast she said, she could become angry quite fast, so I answered: why didn't you stay with your family? Because I need money, when she spent her money to buy a car for somebody, also planning to buy kind of business really not for a princess type. They got freedom, and misery, when they had house for free under communism. Different times, different life, but less than half population 30 years after. Also heard from some girls, they lost money trying business, maybe from peste advices.
PaulInZurich
04-03-21, 13:18
Romanians I work with tell me they had a better level of life under communism, when life is much more expensive now. I find it very hard to believe that somebody who really lived under communism says that life was better then.
This was life under communism in Romania in the 80's. Food rationed (cooking oil, eggs, flower, sugar, meat, etc) and on top of the rationing people had to stand in line for hours to actually get them. Shops with rows and rows of empty shelves. Electricity and heat rationed in the winter for the public. Political dissidents either in jail or in mental health institutions. Women sent to jail for abortions.
I find it very hard to believe that somebody who really lived under communism says that life was better then.
This was life under communism in Romania in the 80's. Food rationed (cooking oil, eggs, flower, sugar, meat, etc) and on top of the rationing people had to stand in line for hours to actually get them. Shops with rows and rows of empty shelves. Electricity and heat rationed in the winter for the public. Political dissidents either in jail or in mental health institutions. Women sent to jail for abortions.You are such a follower who doesn't even try to understand the meaning. Can't you understand difference between level of life when they had house for free and cheap price foods, when life is expensive now in many places in Romania and they have low salary, when I didn't write they got better life under crazy Ceacescu. Why do you think, when they got freedom after the wall, so many left their country? Because they had a good life? Because they don't like their country? When all WGs tell me Romania is beautiful and Romanians who work with me are so happy to return home for holidays, they even took 5 weeks on last Summer, even they told they didn't make enough money because of covid. A bit like I love to go to climb Zoncolan or Mortirolo or many others, every year for my holidays, motivated by my passion, when most of professionnal racers, even they are under doping, find my spots very difficult and would prefer races avoid Zoncolan and I doubt they will love new Loze. FR. Same like being innocent as long you are not judged guilty, from proves against you.
You are such a follower who doesn't even try to understand the meaning. Can't you understand difference between level of life when they had house for free and cheap price foods, when life is expensive now in many places in Romania and they have low salary, when I didn't write they got better life under crazy Ceacescu. Why do you think, when they got freedom after the wall, so many left their country? Because they had a good life? Because they don't like their country? When all WGs tell me Romania is beautiful and Romanians who work with me are so happy to return home for holidays, they even took 5 weeks on last Summer, even they told they didn't make enough money because of covid. A bit like I love to go to climb Zoncolan or Mortirolo or many others, every year for my holidays, motivated by my passion, when most of professionnal racers, even they are under doping, find my spots very difficult and would prefer races avoid Zoncolan and I doubt they will love new Loze. FR. Same like being innocent as long you are not judged guilty, from proves against you.I think we are all confused about your point. What is it exactly? Succinct without digression to other topics would help clarify.
In summary, responses to what I've read:
No, Romania has never reached 30 million people and has not been anywhere near 15 million since the fall of communism.
Using 200-300 e hotels in a resort area full of western holiday goers to demonstrate high cost of living is misleading and is a poor and inaccurate representation of Romania's cost of living and thus quality of life. I stayed at a modest but comfortable hotel in Central-Sibiu for less than 20 E per night. The Hilton hotel in my city costs over 200 euro tonight, it's 70 e in Sibiu tonight. Even dining out Sibiu costs about half of German prices. It's even much less if you visit local establishments outside of city centers. I had a soup, pork, Pommes, and a beer at a restaurant near Transfagarasan for less than 25 lei, that's like 5 euro.
Of course people left Romania after communism as there would be transition pains. Communist societies do not have the infrastructure to suddenly switch to capitalistic economies at the turn of a dime so of course people left in search of western income.
I don't think food and housing is the metric to consider when looking at Romania's quality of life. Sure they had housing back then and rationed food. But is that any worse now? Sure, communism provided the bare necessities, but in 2021 those basic necessities are not an average Romanian's concerns. They go west to pursue a more extravagant life, not to just barely make enough to pay for food and housing. In short, they are only poor in comparison to their new western expectations but not in comparison to the life communist society previously provided.
The only people I have ever heard support 20th century communist life are the young ones who have never actually lived through it. 21st century communism in China is a whole other story. It's not a true communist society as the economy and culture is very capitalistic so the people there actually enjoy a fair degree of luxury and upward social mobility.
I find it very hard to believe that somebody who really lived under communism says that life was better then.
This was life under communism in Romania in the 80's. Food rationed (cooking oil, eggs, flower, sugar, meat, etc) and on top of the rationing people had to stand in line for hours to actually get them. Shops with rows and rows of empty shelves. Electricity and heat rationed in the winter for the public. Political dissidents either in jail or in mental health institutions. Women sent to jail for abortions.I have heard this sentiment before as well from older Romanians, or younger Romanians telling me about what their parents and grandparents sometimes say in passing. It surprised me at first, but it happened too many times to be a one-off. Sometimes people just look back at their youth with nostalgia. Other possible explanation is that not everybody was persecuted to the same degree, at least not at the same time. I believe many of those dictatorships delivered on their promise to improve the quality of life for the average citizen, it was just not sustainable. Severe food shortages and not having heat in the winter happened towards the last years of the regime. Did not read these, maybe will later, but just skimmed, but one seems to suggest the downward spiral started in 1982 and lasted until the fall of regime in 1990:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/can-europe-make-it/communist-nostalgia-in-romania/
http://www.balkanalysis.com/romania/2011/12/27/in-romania-opinion-polls-show-nostalgia-for-communism/
And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.
PaulInZurich
04-04-21, 07:31
I have heard this sentiment before as well from older Romanians, or younger Romanians telling me about what their parents and grandparents sometimes say in passing. It surprised me at first, but it happened too many times to be a one-off. Sometimes people just look back at their youth with nostalgia. Other possible explanation is that not everybody was persecuted to the same degree, at least not at the same time. I believe many of those dictatorships delivered on their promise to improve the quality of life for the average citizen, it was just not sustainable. Severe food shortages and not having heat in the winter happened towards the last years of the regime. Did not read these, maybe will later, but just skimmed, but one seems to suggest the downward spiral started in 1982 and lasted until the fall of regime in 1990:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/can-europe-make-it/communist-nostalgia-in-romania/
http://www.balkanalysis.com/romania/2011/12/27/in-romania-opinion-polls-show-nostalgia-for-communism/Good post, you are elevating the discussion level here.
Ceausescu was initially seen as relatively progressive, he got in power in 1965 after Gheorghiu-Dej who was Romania's leader during Stalinist times. He publicly objected to the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968 which made him quite popular at the time. As well, economically situation was improving even if from a low starting point, but seeing some progress people were optimistic. He got some support from Western countries, loans, visits from Nixon and de Gaulle, de Gaulle gave him the Légion d'honneur (Romania started manufacturing Renault licensed cars), got a horse carriage ride through London with Queen Elizabeth (Romania was supposed to build licensed BAC 1-11 jets). Unfortunately for Romania a visit to North Korea and China gave him lots of bad ideas so any progress started to be reversed. The decision to pay off foreign debt in a few years brought the economic suffering of the 80's.
My contact with Romanians (excluding WGs) is with people in their 30's or 40's with a university degree. It's a different perspective than one would get from construction workers or lettuce pickers.
I think we are all confused about your point. What is it exactly? Succinct without digression to other topics would help clarify.
In summary, responses to what I've read:
No, Romania has never reached 30 million people and has not been anywhere near 15 million since the fall of communism.
Using 200-300 e hotels in a resort area full of western holiday goers to demonstrate high cost of living is misleading and is a poor and inaccurate representation of Romania's cost of living and thus quality of life. I stayed at a modest but comfortable hotel in Central-Sibiu for less than 20 E per night. The Hilton hotel in my city costs over 200 euro tonight, it's 70 e in Sibiu tonight. Even dining out Sibiu costs about half of German prices. It's even much less if you visit local establishments outside of city centers. I had a soup, pork, Pommes, and a beer at a restaurant near Transfagarasan for less than 25 lei, that's like 5 euro.
Of course people left Romania after communism as there would be transition pains. Communist societies do not have the infrastructure to suddenly switch to capitalistic economies at the turn of a dime so of course people left in search of western income..Do you know Romanians who knew before the wall? When WGs don't know. Most of Romanians are poorer now compare to increasing prices there than they were before the wall, and same in Bulgaria, Moldavia, Ukraine and big part of Russia, when not even minimum salary in Hungary. Do you think most attractive places now in Romania are Sibiu? Ask WGs with their 15000/20000 monthly earning when average for Romanians will be below 500, about around Brasov resort for ski, or black sea and they will tell you: very expensive there, for them, so what about so many Romanians now living in misery which was not so important before the wall. DDR was lucky to return to Germany, Czech Republic managed not so bad, but most of behind the past wall, fell in misery after the wall fall, why so many and many others than WGs left their country, even they love their country and send or bring back money to their family, when I don't plan to leave France, to go to work abroad, despite we have the highest tax. I didn't write they had better life, even those I work with didn't seem to suffer so much before the wall when Romania was different for culture than others behind the wall, despite crazy Ceacescu, but they were less poor than now when became expensive to buy a roof to live when for almost free before, when foods became expensive according to low salaries there, must be a reason so many left to find work abroad and I don t see most of them living in luxury but mostly working low level jobs but better paid than at home. New freedom, but can you really enjoy when You are in misery? When Romanian women make FKK land to be fucked by richer guys, when most will choose a Romanian to marry and make baby.
How many percent of Chinese can access to new luxury?
BigBuddy69
04-04-21, 09:03
I have heard this sentiment before as well from older Romanians, or younger Romanians telling me about what their parents and grandparents sometimes say in passing. You can also find some East-Germans complaining about the good old days. There was food and housing for everyone. Problem, the country had a tremendous and continuously growing debt towards the West-Germany and basically it was not sustainable. And although the regime was not as authoritarian as in the neighbor countries, the lack of freedom was really getting on the nerves of the younger generation.
Mongers should be happy that there is no longer communism in Romania. If Romania was still a communist country there would have been no FKKs and none of us would have gone to Europe particularly Germany but to Latin America and Asia instead.
Mongers should be happy that there is no longer communism in Romania. If Romania was still a communist country there would have been no FKKs and none of us would have gone to Europe particularly Germany but to Latin America and Asia instead.Maybe. Maybe it is also very random how the founders of communism decided prostitution should be illegal also. But they needed the support of the local church. So that is the only reason. In reality it was nothing more than Russian politics to begin with.
HammerTime96
04-04-21, 16:49
Mongers should be happy that there is no longer communism in Romania. If Romania was still a communist country there would have been no FKKs and none of us would have gone to Europe particularly Germany but to Latin America and Asia instead.So true, but as a 'return favour' we get communism in the rest of Europe now: central economic planning and a Covid1984 police state.
Want to see the future of German FKKs? Look at Sweden where ultra radical leftwing feminist and a bunch of soy-boy-feminised 'men' are running the show.
Traditionally, P6 has prospered in a conservative and business-minded climate just look at Hong Kong, West-Germany, Holland, Belgium. Wherever there is liberty, there is prosperity, and where there is prosperity, there are WGs. The only exception is the puritan US and the Victorian UK. The more leftwing and religious a country gets, the worse and more over-regulated the situation becomes with P6. Communism is a religion, or better yet, a cult, just remember that Marx said about religion: "the opium of the people."
Just compare today's Amsterdam RLD to what it was in the 1980's and 1990's, look at how Yin Yang in Roermond has been closed by a feminist mayor, and LR in Kaarst is awaiting the same fate by yet another feminist mayor.
P.S. Talking about cults: isn't it peculiar that almost all lefties are fanatical mask-wearing Covidiots and Coranazis? LOL! Sitting alone in their car, wearing a mask? LOL! Walking alone in the street or in a park, wearing a mask? LOL!
Mongers should be happy that there is no longer communism in Romania. If Romania was still a communist country there would have been no FKKs and none of us would have gone to Europe particularly Germany but to Latin America and Asia instead.I don't know that there wouldn't have been any FKKs. But, there certainly wouldn't have been as many successful ones without the huge influx of Romanian talent. I've boinked so many Romanian girls that I feel like I should go to Romania just to pay a visit and show my appreciation.
Mongers should be happy that there is no longer communism in Romania. If Romania was still a communist country there would have been no FKKs and none of us would have gone to Europe particularly Germany but to Latin America and Asia instead.Yes, we are lucky Romania, Bulgaria, Moldavia, part of Hungary, most of Russia, also with Putin killing Ukraine, fell in misery after the wall, so we can have many of their girls. I doubt they would come to be fucked if they could have a good level of life from working in their country. We can thank Romanian girls for cheap rates in Germany and NL, because if they didn't make the big part of business, German girls would not accept such cheap rate. I remember German girls moving from GT to Globe on last Summer, telling: You think we kiss them for only 50? I wonder if they will return for German rate?
So true, but as a 'return favour' we get communism in the rest of Europe now: central economic planning and a Covid1984 police state.
Want to see the future of German FKKs? Look at Sweden where ultra radical leftwing feminist and a bunch of soy-boy-feminised 'men' are running the show.
Traditionally, P6 has prospered in a conservative and business-minded climate just look at Hong Kong, West-Germany, Holland, Belgium. Wherever there is liberty, there is prosperity, and where there is prosperity, there are WGs. The only exception is the puritan US and the Victorian UK. The more leftwing and religious a country gets, the worse and more over-regulated the situation becomes with P6. Communism is a religion, or better yet, a cult, just remember that Marx said about religion: "the opium of the people."Worthy of pointing out that the reverse is not true as there is plenty of P6 in South America and Southeast Asia, areas lacking in prosperity. Likewise, the counter arguments of America, Sweden, Norway, and France show that liberty and prosperity does not mean prevalent P6.
You can also find some East-Germans complaining about the good old days.When you write "some", I am assuming you mean like 10 percent of East Germans yearn for the good old days? In Romania, that figure is 63 percent, which would be a majority. East Germany had West Germany to smooth its transition. Romania was not nearly as fortunate. Romanians have more freedom than they did under communism, but less economic security and probably more corruption. So what worked for East Germany did not work for Romania. Maybe someone who is more well-versed in political science or economics can explain why.
Ceausescu was initially seen as relatively progressive, he got in power in 1965 after Gheorghiu-Dej who was Romania's leader during Stalinist times. He publicly objected to the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968 which made him quite popular at the time. As well, economically situation was improving even if from a low starting point, but seeing some progress people were optimistic. He got some support from Western countries, loans, visits from Nixon and de Gaulle, de Gaulle gave him the Lgion d'honneur (Romania started manufacturing Renault licensed cars), got a horse carriage ride through London with Queen Elizabeth (Romania was supposed to build licensed BAC 1-11 jets). Unfortunately for Romania a visit to North Korea and China gave him lots of bad ideas so any progress started to be reversed. The decision to pay off foreign debt in a few years brought the economic suffering of the 80's.Good historical context.
My contact with Romanians (excluding WGs) is with people in their 30's or 40's with a university degree. It's a different perspective than one would get from construction workers or lettuce pickers.Google search reveals that 15 percent of Romanians aged 15-64 hold a university degree. Not sure if that includes for instance the Romanians who graduate from medical school and immigrate to Western Europe for better opportunities. In either case, I would say that most of these university graduates are "elites" as opposed to average. From what I have heard, more so than most other countries, if your family has money in Romania, you can get a degree without even studying!
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