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You can also find some East-Germans complaining about the good old days. There was food and housing for everyone. Problem, the country had a tremendous and continuously growing debt towards the West-Germany and basically it was not sustainable. And although the regime was not as authoritarian as in the neighbor countries, the lack of freedom was really getting on the nerves of the younger generation.Okay, appears I was wrong, per 2009 poll, depending on how you want to interpret. 49 percent say GDR had some good and some bad sides, but life was good. 8 percent say GDR was mostly good and better than reunified Germany.
Today, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, 57 percent, or an absolute majority, of eastern Germans defend the former East Germany. "The GDR had more good sides than bad sides. There were some problems, but life was good there," say 49 percent of those polled. Eight percent of eastern Germans flatly oppose all criticism of their former home and agree with the statement: "The GDR had, for the most part, good sides. Life there was happier and better than in reunified Germany today."
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html..
ExpatLover
04-05-21, 12:00
I don't know that there wouldn't have been any FKKs. But, there certainly wouldn't have been as many successful ones without the huge influx of Romanian talent. I've boinked so many Romanian girls that I feel like I should go to Romania just to pay a visit and show my appreciation.I am often in Romania and other eastern Europe countries, you will be surprised to see how the life is normal there, prostitution is just a very small part of the life like in all the countries. Due to salary increase in China and the wish of many companies to shorten their supply chain you will also see huge number of trucks around Vienna driving to Romania or Hungary or Croatia. Real estate prices double in the last 12 months due to the return home of many Hungarians from England, Germany. Most of the people are happy there, open society, very safe and the police doing their job compare to France or Italy.
... The only exception is the puritan US ...I do not believe religion is the cause of the sexual repression in the US. Sexual repression is a tool used to keep the people angry, spiteful and divided. That way the wealthy can better subdue the population. People who are sexually active have clearer minds and can easier understand what is really taking place in their country. Sexually frustrated people focus on small things and attacking each other and do not contemplate the big picture.
ExpatLover
04-05-21, 16:44
I do not believe religion is the cause of the sexual repression in the US. Sexual repression is a tool used to keep the people angry, spiteful and divided. That way the wealthy can better subdue the population. People who are sexually active have clearer minds and can easier understand what is really taking place in their country. Sexually frustrated people focus on small things and attacking each other and do not contemplate the big picture.Maybe we should think about the % of married man or living a stable relationship visiting prostitutes, for me it is more than 70%. Will it not be better for them to invest in their relation and being sexually satisfy than to fuck prostitutes which will obviously bring no solution to their problems.
I am often in Romania and other eastern Europe countries, you will be surprised to see how the life is normal there, prostitution is just a very small part of the life like in all the countries. Due to salary increase in China and the wish of many companies to shorten their supply chain you will also see huge number of trucks around Vienna driving to Romania or Hungary or Croatia. Real estate prices double in the last 12 months due to the return home of many Hungarians from England, Germany. Most of the people are happy there, open society, very safe and the police doing their job compare to France or Italy.You mean to tell us Romanians have good level of life at home? No corruption? Are you serious? So maybe Romanian girls come to Western because they have pleasure to be fucked by mostly old fat treating them like pieces of meat? Do you know not even minimum salary in Hungary? And some Hungarian girls prostitute or are in porn. To really know difference between mostly misery now and before the wall, have to speak with people who are more than 50, then they knew how was life behind the wall, they got freedom but also misery, out of Bucharest city, Cluj and Constanza.
Maybe we should think about the % of married man or living a stable relationship visiting prostitutes, for me it is more than 70%. Will it not be better for them to invest in their relation and being sexually satisfy than to fuck prostitutes which will obviously bring no solution to their problems.For sure, according to girls, many married, they don't believe me when I say I m not, they take my hands to look if mark on fingers. Many married go to brothels because mum doesn't want because they are not able to give her pleasure, when women ask for when you give them, or because mum would not accept some ways for sex.
Maybe we should think about the % of married man or living a stable relationship visiting prostitutes, for me it is more than 70%. Will it not be better for them to invest in their relation and being sexually satisfy than to fuck prostitutes which will obviously bring no solution to their problems.How do you know the married men who visit SD's need a "solution to their problems"?
For all you know it may not be a problem for some of them at all.
Many men do departmentalise the lives and in this instance they may be happy with their lives, whoever they are with.
Worthy of pointing out that the reverse is not true as there is plenty of P6 in South America and Southeast Asia, areas lacking in prosperity. Likewise, the counter arguments of America, Sweden, Norway, and France show that liberty and prosperity does not mean prevalent P6..Alternatively it means people in USA, France, Norway and Sweden are more religious.
Just look at Germany and where the liberal and non-liberal areas are regarding sex. The line is as clear as the Catholic / Lutheran divide. And as we all know, Lutherans tend to easier loose interest in religion because they actually understand the translated crap.
USA is a brainwashed cesspool full of religious snowflakes. All of France along with Italy is catholic and pope has brainwashed them. Scandinavia has currently this whole feminism thing ongoing, but as far as I can tell, that is just temporary. Something you would perhaps understand more if you lived in Scandinavia, watched reality TV here etc, or maybe even party with local girls. Lapdances are as normal as the sunrise at most parties at the right age. Same with Britain, Australia. Much closer to Scandinavia in this regard than France or even Germany. As a matter of fact Britain and Australia are a few years ahead of Scandinavia and currently trendsetters in some liberal areas. The recent ban of some internet porn in Britain is just a last ditch effort, so I wouldn't look too much into that.
Women will soon understand that liberty for women actually means they are allowed to have more sex. Not less. And be more slutty. Not less. Who says **** is a negative word anyway?
BigBuddy69
04-05-21, 23:41
France has not been a catholic country for maybe a century but well, suit yourself.
I do not believe religion is the cause of the sexual repression in the US. Sexual repression is a tool used to keep the people angry, spiteful and divided. That way the wealthy can better subdue the population. People who are sexually active have clearer minds and can easier understand what is really taking place in their country. Sexually frustrated people focus on small things and attacking each other and do not contemplate the big picture.Religion does not directly cause sexual repression in the USA. Religion's effect on cultural moral values extends to America's ethical views of sexual promiscuity and, even more so, ethical views of paid sex.
ExpatLover
04-06-21, 03:38
How do you know the married men who visit SD's need a "solution to their problems"?
For all you know it may not be a problem for some of them at all.
Many men do departmentalise the lives and in this instance they may be happy with their lives, whoever they are with.If you are happy in your relation why should you visit prostitutes, is it not better to have sex with your spouse or GF? I think if you need sex with prostitute you have a problem in your relation and to solve it, fucking prostitutes is not bringing any improvement. Let us make it the other way, if your spouse or GF will tell you that she has sex with other man and that she is paying for it I am not sure you will agree about it. I heard so many times the excuse of departmentalize which is only a absolutely necessary to preserve your relation. Are you able to tell your wife or GF that you fuck prostitutes, of course not therefore the only solution is to departmentise.
Alternatively it means people in USA, France, Norway and Sweden are more religious.
Just look at Germany and where the liberal and non-liberal areas are regarding sex. The line is as clear as the Catholic / Lutheran divide. And as we all know, Lutherans tend to easier loose interest in religion because they actually understand the translated crap.
USA is a brainwashed cesspool full of religious snowflakes. All of France along with Italy is catholic and pope has brainwashed them. Scandinavia has currently this whole feminism thing ongoing, but as far as I can tell, that is just temporary. Something you would perhaps understand more if you lived in Scandinavia, watched reality TV here etc, or maybe even party with local girls. Lapdances are as normal as the sunrise at most parties at the right age. Same with Britain, Australia. Much closer to Scandinavia in this regard than France or even Germany. As a matter of fact Britain and Australia are a few years ahead of Scandinavia and currently trendsetters in some liberal areas. The recent ban of some internet porn in Britain is just a last ditch effort, so I wouldn't look too much into that.
Women will soon understand that liberty for women actually means they are allowed to have more sex. Not less. And be more slutty. Not less. Who says **** is a negative word anyway?About women, sex is not prostitution. Most of WGs don/t know much about sexuality, from their pimp level for sex.
France has not been a catholic country for maybe a century but well, suit yourself.I think most people share your view. I know the French Constitution explicitly strives for that. Quite early on in your Constitution too, as in, Article I, Line 1:
"France is an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic, guaranteeing that all citizens regardless of their origin, race or religion are treated as equals before the law and respecting all religious beliefs."
Have not met many very religious French. Not many religious Brits either.
France has not been a catholic country for maybe a century but well, suit yourself.Here you go:
https://sites.google.com/site/crossculturemnp/religion-1
If you are happy in your relation why should you visit prostitutes, is it not better to have sex with your spouse or GF? I think if you need sex with prostitute you have a problem in your relation and to solve it, fucking prostitutes is not bringing any improvement. Let us make it the other way, if your spouse or GF will tell you that she has sex with other man and that she is paying for it I am not sure you will agree about it. I heard so many times the excuse of departmentalize which is only a absolutely necessary to preserve your relation. Are you able to tell your wife or GF that you fuck prostitutes, of course not therefore the only solution is to departmentise.You can be happy in a relationship and still want fuck another woman. Happiness does not somehow remove desire and feelings of "want".
Departmentalize (sic) - Compartmentalizing love and happiness with sexual desire has been happening for thousands of years. Life is not a Disney movie where you just love one person and all other emotions and feelings are muted by the "power of true love."
BigBuddy69
04-06-21, 17:54
Here you go:
https://sites.google.com/site/crossculturemnp/religion-1I'd really like to know who is the amateur who designed this site and where did he find the figures. And how he defines being a catholic (little reminder in France official statistics about religion and race are forbidden).
According to the Vatican, in 2005,77% of the French where baptized. 15 years ago.
https://www.cairn.info/revue-population-et-avenir-2007-4-page-14.htm
As you can see in the first graph this ratio has been constantly declining.
Unless I missed a recent surge of faith recently, I don't think that those last years everyone found his way in the catholic religion.
On the second graph you find the share of people describing themselves as Catholics in France. Same think, it has been constantly declining. And it's around 2/3 of the number of baptized people.
Even better, more recent source and in English:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/459982/population-distribution-religion-france/
38 M of self described Catholics, not exactly 83 to 88 %.
I suggest you double check the information before you post it next time. They didn't teach you this in your communication school?
Churches in France are getting more and more empty, they're decaying because they're running short of money, more and more children born out of a wedding, gay marriage is authorized, no real problem for abortion, doesn't sound like a catholic country to me. Unfortunately we're turning in some kind of Islamic state in some neighborhoods, but the Catholics nowadays you only hear them when they demonstrate against the gay marriage or against adoption for LGBT.
PaulInZurich
04-06-21, 18:12
Here you go:
https://sites.google.com/site/crossculturemnp/religion-1Interesting quote from that document: "France has one of the lowest number of church attendance in the world, which accounts for less than 5 percent of the population". And another interesting quote: "there are higher number of practicing Muslims than the number of practicing Catholics".
So, they check the box "Catholic" on whatever form, but don't go to church, maybe for a wedding. I bet many would quickly uncheck that box on a form if there would be a church tax like in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and a few other countries. I think order of magnitude it's 8 - 12 % of your income tax.
When I moved to Switzerland I made damn sure that I declared myself atheist. From the money I saved on my income tax I can pay for a hell of a lot of WGs.
When they bury me, there will be no priest present, I can live with that.
I think most people share your view. I know the French Constitution explicitly strives for that. Quite early on in your Constitution too, as in, Article I, Line 1:
"France is an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic, guaranteeing that all citizens regardless of their origin, race or religion are treated as equals before the law and respecting all religious beliefs."
Have not met many very religious French. Not many religious Brits either.For sure, you should not meet many in brothels, but still in France, going weekly to church. Funny, some Romanian WGs go to church for Easter.
I'd really like to know who is the amateur who designed this site and where did he find the figures. And how he defines being a catholic (little reminder in France official statistics about religion and race are forbidden).
I suggest you double check the information before you post it next time. They didn't teach you this in your communication school?.Here's a Gallop poll that puts France in the top 10 most atheist and non-religious populations. In fact, it has France listed as the 4th most atheist and 8th least religious nation in the world. It breaks down the population to 34% not religious, 29% atheist, and only 37% religious. Combine that with the Constitutional decree that France shall be secular, it seems that claiming that France is a Catholic country is a load of horse shit motivated by pure contrarianism, very consistent with the typical conspiracy theorist character. It's opposition just for the sake of opposition, facts not needed.
https://sidmennt.is/wp-content/uploads/Gallup-International-um-tr%C3%BA-og-tr%C3%BAleysi-2012.pdf
I do find it funny that Romania is 89% religious, putting it in the top 10 religious countries, LOL.
Interesting quote from that document: "France has one of the lowest number of church attendance in the world, which accounts for less than 5 percent of the population". And another interesting quote: "there are higher number of practicing Muslims than the number of practicing Catholics".
So, they check the box "Catholic" on whatever form, but don't go to church, maybe for a wedding. I bet many would quickly uncheck that box on a form if there would be a church tax like in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and a few other countries. I think order of magnitude it's 8 - 12 % of your income tax.
When I moved to Switzerland I made damn sure that I declared myself atheist. From the money I saved on my income tax I can pay for a hell of a lot of WGs.
When they bury me, there will be no priest present, I can live with that.Clearly you have zero knowledge on how religious brainwashing works!
Ok, here is a clue: It gives people a sense of upbringing and localization. It doesn't matter if they never go to church, their parent were Catholics. And that's enough. Or even their grandparents. The non sexual sentiments lingers for generations.
But sure, the entire idea on bringing in Muslims is just that: to uproot the brainwashing and get a new start. It won't be a Muslim start though.
For sure, you should not meet many in brothels, but still in France, going weekly to church. Funny, some Romanian WGs go to church for Easter.You realize that I lived in Metz, France in 2002? I've met many more Frenchmen that do not go to brothels. Even in a small city, on Sunday mornings, most people were not at Church.
Mr. Bovenschulte, Peter Tschentscher, Daniel Guenther, Manuela Schwesig, Dietmar Woidke, Michael Mueller, Rainer Haseloff, Stephan Weil, Armin Laschet, Marie Luise Dreyer, Tobias Hans, Volker Bouffier, Winfried Kretschmann, Markus Soeder, Bodo Ramelow, Michael Kretschmer and Angela Merkel.
These people are responsible for restricted basic rights of the German citizens. Restrictions since over a year.
These people are responsible for a stricter night life shutdown (bars, restaurants and clubs, who were never really open again) in November 2020. Result, rising numbers.
These people are responsible for a more strict shutdown (plus the schools, small shops, amateur sport clubs and so) in December 2020. Result, rising numbers.
These people are responsible for the same shutdown in January 2021. No effect, the original sars cov2 just was getting tired.
These people are responsible for the same shutdown in February 2021. The result at the end of the month, rising numbers. Because the "mutants" stepped on the stage.
These people are responsible for continuing the shutdown politic in March 2021. Result, rising numbers.
Closing parts of life has no or only a very very tiny effect.
But guess what they are still doing? Yeah, planning more measures till "enough" people are vaccinated.
We people were just to slow in March 2020 as the whole German Bundestag misused the infection protection law. The whole Bundestag, every political party, no opposition during these days.
The damage is done.
From next week on, only children are allowed to go into the school if they have a negative test result. No negative test result, no school together with other children. That means, children who have no negative test result are treated like children who are corona positive (infectious, ill). Hopefully two weeks later these kids are not dead. Or recovered?
German government is still ignoring the possibility that many people are "hidden" recovered.
Germany, 83.2 million citizens.
0.27% of the people counted currently as "active cases".
Believe it or not. Some Germans, random people, want stricter corona rules. I have a nice idea for them. Quit your job, you know, 10 hours home office (including 6 hours show sitting) is boring, be honest. Start instead working in a hospital, home for older people, test station or vaccine center.
First, you can show solidarity with your beloved system.
Second, you can get your needle so much quicker! Great or what?
Do it, support your tyrannical system!
PaulInZurich
04-07-21, 07:59
Churches in France are getting more and more empty, they're decaying because they're running short of money..It's an overall phenomenon in Western Europe. Church attendance continuously dropping. Things like the Catholic church protecting pedophile priests don't help them.
Interesting quote from that document: "France has one of the lowest number of church attendance in the world, which accounts for less than 5 percent of the population". And another interesting quote: "there are higher number of practicing Muslims than the number of practicing Catholics".
So, they check the box "Catholic" on whatever form, but don't go to church, maybe for a wedding. I bet many would quickly uncheck that box on a form if there would be a church tax like in Germany, Switzerland, Austria and a few other countries. I think order of magnitude it's 8 - 12 % of your income tax.
When I moved to Switzerland I made damn sure that I declared myself atheist. From the money I saved on my income tax I can pay for a hell of a lot of WGs.
When they bury me, there will be no priest present, I can live with that.LOL, Pistons usually read only the title of things!
PaulInZurich
04-07-21, 16:36
Clearly you have zero knowledge on how religious brainwashing works!
Ok, here is a clue: It gives people a sense of upbringing and localization. It doesn't matter if they never go to church, their parent were Catholics. And that's enough. Or even their grandparents. The non sexual sentiments lingers for generations.
But sure, the entire idea on bringing in Muslims is just that: to uproot the brainwashing and get a new start. It won't be a Muslim start though.I was told that Catholics have less problems with sex than others. Confess, say your 3 hail marys and you still end up in paradise.
Anyway, it's simplistic to say Catholics are like this or that. Compare Brasil and Poland with regards attitude around sex.
You realize that I lived in Metz, France in 2002? I've met many more Frenchmen that do not go to brothels. Even in a small city, on Sunday mornings, most people were not at Church.Maybe for US, but if you were able to think European, you would know Metz is not a small town in Europe, not London nor Paris, but not small. For Easter, when had scandal in France with a quite full church with people not having mask inside. Some people still go to church in France and more numerous in villages. In Paris, other entertainments like Euro Disney.
Maybe because of lack of vaccine, or because many refuse AZ, or because some are positive after vaccine, but some French medicals start to say to vaccine only when at risk, then no need if you think you are not at risk, better to be sure about own health of course, when even young but obese or diabetic are at risk.
I was told that Catholics have less problems with sex than others. Confess, say your 3 hail marys and you still end up in paradise.
Anyway, it's simplistic to say Catholics are like this or that. Compare Brasil and Poland with regards attitude around sex.And you still believe what you hear. That is the only thing worth extrapolating from your comments.
Maybe for US, but if you were able to think European, you would know Metz is not a small town in Europe, not London nor Paris, but not small. For Easter, when had scandal in France with a quite full church with people not having mask inside. Some people still go to church in France and more numerous in villages. In Paris, other entertainments like Euro Disney.
Maybe because of lack of vaccine, or because many refuse AZ, or because some are positive after vaccine, but some French medicals start to say to vaccine only when at risk, then no need if you think you are not at risk, better to be sure about own health of course, when even young but obese or diabetic are at risk.Mets population m: 116 K.
Definition of a small city: "Typical working definitions for small-city populations start at around 100,000 people."
https://www.google.com/search?q=small+city+population&rlz=1 CDGOYI_enUS769 US769&oq=small+city+popula&aqs=chrome. 0. 0 i20 i263 j69 i57 j0 i20 i263 j0 j0 i22 i30 l2. 3752 j0 j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Those specific of "French Medicals" (what ever that specifically means) are giving you information from an individual's perspective. The public health perspective is, "if we all took this pretty amazing product of modern science, we would be able to open things up a lot quicker."
LOL, Pistons usually read only the title of things!I've noticed that too.
PaulInZurich
04-08-21, 03:08
LOL, Pistons usually read only the title of things!And he has super secret sources of information available only to communications experts like him. Then he quotes websites designed by 4 year olds.
For example, there is no reliable data for India, their statistics are far behind.
Mumbai (which of course is not entire India) reported 25% excess mortality. Far from max 10% of covid deaths are reported.
PaulInZurich
04-08-21, 04:25
And you still believe what you hear. That is the only thing worth extrapolating from your comments.I believe what credible people say. [Deleted by Admin]
BigBuddy69
04-08-21, 06:10
You realize that I lived in Metz, France in 2002? I've met many more Frenchmen that do not go to brothels. Even in a small city, on Sunday mornings, most people were not at Church.Naughty boy! I'm sure you visited Paradise Saarbrucken back in those days.
Relatively speaking, in France Metz is a metropol. Small cities are more under 20 k inhabitants.
Mets population m: 116 K.
Definition of a small city: "Typical working definitions for small-city populations start at around 100,000 people."
https://www.google.com/search?q=small+city+population&rlz=1 CDGOYI_enUS769 US769&oq=small+city+popula&aqs=chrome. 0. 0 i20 i263 j69 i57 j0 i20 i263 j0 j0 i22 i30 l2. 3752 j0 j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Those specific of "French Medicals" (what ever that specifically means) are giving you information from an individual's perspective. The public health perspective is, "if we all took this pretty amazing product of modern science, we would be able to open things up a lot quicker."Your data's seem to think for you, when I'm a free bird, not a sheep, even I put on mask for others, but thinking by myself and I wish all those who need or want to get protection versus killer. In EU, whatever can say Google or Wikipedia, but Metz is not a small town, would even be a quite big city in Switzerland. EU have different standards than China or US, when Google think US, but I prefer to know from the real field, not just average data's, a bit like before elections. Are always data reality? Of course, I won t even say about Chinese or north Korean or Russian datas, when 60% Russians don t want to vaccine with their sputnik, when they don t trust Putin. About AZ with more and more restrictions and people refusing, even data say gain is better than risk, but if a woman or daughter I loved, had big health problems or died, I would just don t care about data, even I know medical is not exact science and only small knowledge about this virus. What I call medicals are doctors, nurses, hospitals. At least, I trust them in France, but if I was asked to vaccine for public safety, I would answer: not with AZ, I don t want to be a risk, when I choose my own risks.
Some guys, even on this board, extol the virtues of a happy married life against the happy monger. Consequently, I have a question for you guys: Who was the happiest man who ever lived?
Your data's seem to think for you, when I'm a free bird, not a sheep, even I put on mask for others, but thinking by myself and I wish all those who need or want to get protection versus killer. In EU, whatever can say Google or Wikipedia, but Metz is not a small town, would even be a quite big city in Switzerland. EU have different standards than China or US, when Google think US, but I prefer to know from the real field, not just average data's, a bit like before elections. Are always data reality? Of course, I won t even say about Chinese or north Korean or Russian datas, when 60% Russians don t want to vaccine with their sputnik, when they don t trust Putin. About AZ with more and more restrictions and people refusing, even data say gain is better than risk, but if a woman or daughter I loved, had big health problems or died, I would just don t care about data, even I know medical is not exact science and only small knowledge about this virus. What I call medicals are doctors, nurses, hospitals. At least, I trust them in France, but if I was asked to vaccine for public safety, I would answer: not with AZ, I don t want to be a risk, when I choose my own risks.Who said Metz was a small town. I'm pretty sure I called it a "small city. " Pretty big difference. Details matter. Read better if trying to be contrarian.
Building beliefs based around reliable data rather than selecting data based on naked personal beliefs seems like a pretty solid approach for the 21st century man. Only old dinosaurs don't value data. Don't be like the political posters / conspiracy theorists. In some ways, you're better than them.
Naughty boy! I'm sure you visited Paradise Saarbrucken back in those days.
Relatively speaking, in France Metz is a metropol. Small cities are more under 20 k inhabitants.Small cities versus small town. For the English delineation of the terms, 20 K is a small town but certainly not a city. The word city in itself implies a minimum population.
When using English terminology, Metz is a small city. 116 K inhabitants. Small town, not so much.
Some guys, even on this board, extol the virtues of a happy married life against the happy monger. Consequently, I have a question for you guys: Who was the happiest man who ever lived?The laws of the universe do not dictate that companionship (married life) and mongering (lustful desire) be mutually exclusive. Furthermore, marital infidelity and love for your companion (s) are not mutually exclusive. The emotional effects of infidelity and / or secrecy / deception on your companionship is a separately distinguishable matter.
My guess is that the happiest men on earth were people like King Solomon or the Kings of Siam. Men who had wealth, power, and the companionship of multiple "wives. " They obviously had the power to rid himself of any single wife if she acted "out of line."
As such, many married men who also have numerous hooker / FKK wives are probably quite happy.
Some guys, even on this board, extol the virtues of a happy married life against the happy monger. Consequently, I have a question for you guys: Who was the happiest man who ever lived?In my opinion, the happiest guy is the one who has no need, when rich want to be richer, WGs think money is happiness. In my beloved mountains, I see people, everybody here would say they are poor with difficult life, waking up early, but they would not leave their life. A guy whose wife look at him with eyes full of love, should also be happy. Paid sex is just a failure, even can have pleasure.
Who said Metz was a small town. I'm pretty sure I called it a "small city. " Pretty big difference. Details matter. Read better if trying to be contrarian.
Building beliefs based around reliable data rather than selecting data based on naked personal beliefs seems like a pretty solid approach for the 21st century man. Only old dinosaurs don't value data. Don't be like the political posters / conspiracy theorists. In some ways, you're better than them.According to EU standards, Metz is not a small city, being a French district capital and could be a kanton capital in Switzerland, bigger than Solothurn or pretty sure Fribourg. Paradise Sarrebrucken, nor Prestige Neunkirchen didn't exist on early 2000's, maybe club 214 in Sarrebrucken, where worked french girls. As I m not a follower, I try to think by myself, I feel more free like this, but I think vaccine is useful for who need, or feel more safe with, because I see in France, people who are afraid about virus, so this is better they can get vaccine, I just wish for no passport in EU.
According to EU standards, Metz is not a small city, being a French district capital and could be a kanton capital in Switzerland, bigger than Solothurn or pretty sure Fribourg. Paradise Sarrebrucken, nor Prestige Neunkirchen didn't exist on early 2000's, maybe club 214 in Sarrebrucken, where worked french girls. As I m not a follower, I try to think by myself, I feel more free like this, but I think vaccine is useful for who need, or feel more safe with, because I see in France, people who are afraid about virus, so this is better they can get vaccine, I just wish for no passport in EU.Jesus. It's an English word. The English word "city" implies a certain minimum size. Generally under 100,000, people will not use the word "city" but rather the word "town. " You want to call it big, call it a big town. It's not a big city. Find whatever the French equivalent of the word "town". Of the 500 biggest metropolis's, cities, and towns in all of Europe, Met's ain't on the list.
http://www.citymayors.com/features/euro_cities5.html
This is a dumb debate fueled by a lack of knowledge of the English word "city". Furthermore, that wasn't even the point of the original post.
Point is I lived in Metz.
Call it whatever the hell you want. But for the English use of the English word "city," Metz is on the smaller end of the spectrum. Big town, small city. English.
PaulInZurich
04-09-21, 04:10
Call it whatever the hell you want. But for the English use of the English word "city," Metz is on the smaller end of the spectrum. Big town, small city. English.Ah see, but you wrote in Englisch, meaning of words (not to mention grammar) l is different in siriojish.
BigBuddy69
04-09-21, 05:54
So, what did you think of the train station? Majestic no?
Jesus. It's an English word. The English word "city" implies a certain minimum size. Generally under 100,000, people will not use the word "city" but rather the word "town. " You want to call it big, call it a big town. It's not a big city. Find whatever the French equivalent of the word "town". Of the 500 biggest metropolis's, cities, and towns in all of Europe, Met's ain't on the list.
http://www.citymayors.com/features/euro_cities5.html
This is a dumb debate fueled by a lack of knowledge of the English word "city". Furthermore, that wasn't even the point of the original post.
Point is I lived in Metz.
Call it whatever the hell you want. But for the English use of the English word "city," Metz is on the smaller end of the spectrum. Big town, small city. English.OK. Town of London it is then.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London
Population: 9.401 (2016).
In my opinion, the happiest guy is the one who has no need, when rich want to be richer, WGs think money is happiness. In my beloved mountains, I see people, everybody here would say they are poor with difficult life, waking up early, but they would not leave their life. A guy whose wife look at him with eyes full of love, should also be happy. Paid sex is just a failure, even can have pleasure.I've studied the lives of many people past and present and believe that the happiest man who ever lived was Hugh Hefner. He got to bang thousands of stunner girls each one hotter than the hottest FKK stunner.
ExpatLover
04-09-21, 15:22
I've studied the lives of many people past and present and believe that the happiest man who ever lived was Hugh Hefner. He got to bang thousands of stunner girls each one hotter than the hottest FKK stunner.Sorry but I am very happy too. I take the life like it is coming and just put my energy in things I can change. I always try to adapt to the today situation, not dreaming about the past when the FKK were open for example, now they are closed I have already adapted to it, if they don t open again it will have 0 impact on my life. In the last years I invested in shares and real estate and both are sky rocketing despite the covid or due to the covid all assets have double their value. Never live in the past, never live in the future live now and take action today. As simple as that.
BigBuddy69
04-09-21, 16:34
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/city-town-village-difference/
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/city-town-village-difference/A win on technical knockout by BigBuddy. Congratulations!
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/city-town-village-difference/"A city is a large or important town".
Hence Small City, Large town.
Would be ridiculous to call Metz a large city if also calling Paris, Berlin, Rome, London, etc large cities.
So, what did you think of the train station? Majestic no?One of the more artsy ones in Europe for sure. Too bad I was a drunken American college student for most of my time there. Too dumb to care.
BigBuddy69
04-09-21, 18:05
A win on technical knockout by BigBuddy. Congratulations!Unfortunately some guys are totally adverse to truth and will repeat the same loop again and again.
A win on technical knockout by BigBuddy. Congratulations!I demand a comedy point.
Jesus. It's an English word. The English word "city" implies a certain minimum size. Generally under 100,000, people will not use the word "city" but rather the word "town. " You want to call it big, call it a big town. It's not a big city. Find whatever the French equivalent of the word "town". Of the 500 biggest metropolis's, cities, and towns in all of Europe, Met's ain't on the list.
http://www.citymayors.com/features/euro_cities5.html
This is a dumb debate fueled by a lack of knowledge of the English word "city". Furthermore, that wasn't even the point of the original post.
Point is I lived in Metz.
Call it whatever the hell you want. But for the English use of the English word "city," Metz is on the smaller end of the spectrum. Big town, small city. English.For French, very famous all over the world Saint Tropez is small, but even for a Parisian like me, Metz is quite big. Zurich city, not suburb, should be not more than 500 000, small in China. Just matter of standards.
Pick the one that seems to be the best fit according to population size:
A_Mega city.
B_Large city.
C_Medium city.
D_Small City.
Cities and population in millions (city proper / metro area):
Mega?
London (8.9 - 14.2).
Paris (2.1 - 13).
Large? Mega?
Berlin (3.7 - 6.1).
Rome (2.8 -4.3).
Frankfurt (0.76 - 5.6).
Madrid (3.2 - 6.7).
Medium? Large?
Prague (1.3 - 2.6).
Amsterdam (0.8 - 2.5).
Lisbon (0.50 - 3.0).
Medium?
Lyon (0.51 - 1.6).
Antwerp (0.49 - 1.2).
Toulouse (0.48 - 1.3).
Zurich (0.415 - 1.0).
Nice (0.342 - 1.0).
Medium? Small?
Strasbourg (0.227 - 0.790).
Saarbruken (0.18 - 0.70).
Small?
Aachen (0.25 - ?
Sibiu (0.15 - 0.27).
Metz (0.116/0.339)
Kaiserslautern (0. 100 - ?
Venlo (0. 10 - ?
Roermond (0. 58 - ?
Given the population distribution across multiple European cities, it baffles how anyone could consider Metz anything but a small city regardless of subjective "European standard" for small. It's even half the size of Saarbruken and Steasbourg, not so large cities themselves.
Like I said, it doesn't even make Europe's top 500 metro areas.
http://www.citymayors.com/features/euro_cities4.html
Some guys, even on this board, extol the virtues of a happy married life against the happy monger.On the German FKK threads? Most ISGers seem to have either neutral or negative views towards marriage IMO.
No one is more mentally mixed up than a religious, inexperienced newbie who has a hard raging penis, is unable to shoot his hot seminal load into a warm vagina, thinks that fornication is wrong and the ladies who can satisfy his urges are bad. If he won't shoot a load one way he'd do it another.Like anything else, people attach different levels of importance to sex. If sex was the primary motivation for all men, I do not think many morbidly obese men would exist in this world. How is being obese conducive to a good sex life, when one can no longer physically penetrate? Surely these obese men are not getting loads of civilian pussy for free. Obesity also carries the stigma of being lazy and undisciplined, making it more difficult to get hired or promoted (mongering becomes less affordable as a result). Yet some of these guys make little effort to change their lifestyle. I wonder if there is an International Obese Guide, where these men go around believing that everybody loves food as much as they do? Do the IOGers believe that thin people deny their primal desires to eat fatty, greasy, delicious, sugar-laden food because they are brainwashed by mainstream Hollywood and doctors?
Many men are able lead happy lives having much less sex than we do. You said yourself your older brother introduced you to WGs, but now he prefers drinking beer and hanging out with friends. Did he find religion? Did he get married? Or just got old and lost interest in fornicating? In either case, I suspect your mongering career and thirst for the hobby surpassed his a long time ago, perhaps even when both of you were in your physical prime.
I've studied the lives of many people past and present and believe that the happiest man who ever lived was Hugh Hefner. He got to bang thousands of stunner girls each one hotter than the hottest FKK stunner.According to these ex-playmates, Hefner did not seem like he was into the sex with them. In all fairness, Hefner would have been mid-to-late 70's when this all went down.
Holly Madison:
She also claimed Hefner who died aged 91 in 2017 would watch porn, smoke weed, and masturbate while his girlfriends would cavort in front of him after being ordered to dress in identical nightwear.
Holly also revealed romps with the Playboy king were certainly not something to write home about, reports The Mirror.
She said: "There was zero intimacy involved. No kissing, nothing.
"It was so brief that I can't even recall what it felt like beyond having a heavy body on top of mine."
Kendra Wilkinson:
"At about the minute mark, I pulled away and it was done. It was like a job. Clock in, clock out. It's not like I enjoyed having sex with him."https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/playboy-mansion-bunnies-reveal-hugh-hefners-bizarre-and-degrading-sex-rituals/NWLCARSQGW3M4L7IFEREG7RE64/
Pick the one that seems to be the best fit according to population size:
A_Mega city.
B_Large city.
C_Medium city.
D_Small City.
Cities and population in millions (city proper / metro area):
Mega?
London (8.9 - 14.2).
Paris (2.1 - 13).
Large? Mega?
Berlin (3.7 - 6.1).
Rome (2.8 -4.3)..You only think from your data, you don't think like a European. Metz is capital of a district in France, important town in France, even maybe not famous. I doubt 580000 people in Roermond, maybe better to check reliability of your data. In Formula 1 full of data, some pilots say ingeneer: keep your data, let me drive.
Pick the one that seems to be the best fit according to population size:
A_Mega city.
B_Large city.
C_Medium city.
D_Small City.
Cities and population in millions (city proper / metro area):
Mega?
London (8.9 - 14.2).
Paris (2.1 - 13).
Large? Mega?
Berlin (3.7 - 6.1).
Rome (2.8 -4.3).
Frankfurt (0.76 - 5.6).Fluid definitions. Still not as interesting as cock size from a women point of view.
On the German FKK threads? Most ISGers seem to have either neutral or negative views towards marriage IMO.
Like anything else, people attach different levels of importance to sex. If sex was the primary motivation for all men, I do not think many morbidly obese men would exist in this world. How is being obese conducive to a good sex life, when one can no longer physically penetrate? Surely these obese men are not getting loads of civilian pussy for free. Obesity also carries the stigma of being lazy and undisciplined, making it more difficult to get hired or promoted (mongering becomes less affordable as a result). Yet some of these guys make little effort to change their lifestyle. I wonder if there is an International Obese Guide, where these men go around believing that everybody loves food as much as they do? Do the IOGers believe that thin people deny their primal desires to eat fatty, greasy, delicious, sugar-laden food because they are brainwashed by mainstream Hollywood and doctors?
Many men are able lead happy lives having much less sex than we do. When I could be in brothels nearly every day if I wanted, when I got the prettiest stars for regulars, but biggest success for me, if arithmetic's didn't exist, would have been to meet my last girlfriend when I was 18, even I was not ready at this time, and to make all my life only with her, would have been great achievement to be proud of, like did our parents, but for a life of love together. When some of my regulars who understand how brothels can be complicated for me, some proposing me to meet on appointments, tell me: why you don't find a new girlfriend? I answer: then you won't see me anymore, so, they look at me and stop to tell.
In China, Chongqing is the biggest city by definition. Especially by land area. It has the same size as the entire country of Switzerland. And no other city in the world has more green space. Undeniable fact in China.
Again, 100% subjective.
On the German FKK threads? Most ISGers seem to have either neutral or negative views towards marriage IMO.
Like anything else, people attach different levels of importance to sex. If sex was the primary motivation for all men, I do not think many morbidly obese men would exist in this world. How is being obese conducive to a good sex life, when one can no longer physically penetrate? Surely these obese men are not getting loads of civilian pussy for free. Obesity also carries the stigma of being lazy and undisciplined, making it more difficult to get hired or promoted (mongering becomes less affordable as a result). Yet some of these guys make little effort to change their lifestyle. I wonder if there is an International Obese Guide, where these men go around believing that everybody loves food as much as they do? Do the IOGers believe that thin people deny their primal desires to eat fatty, greasy, delicious, sugar-laden food because they are brainwashed by mainstream Hollywood and doctors?
Many men are able lead happy lives having much less sex than we do. You said yourself your older brother introduced you to WGs, but now he prefers drinking beer and hanging out with friends. Did he find religion? Did he get married? Or just got old and lost interest in fornicating? In either case, I suspect your mongering career and thirst for the hobby surpassed his a long time ago, perhaps even when both of you were in your physical prime.Most hardcore mongers I know have both the lustful desire for sex with many women yet they also have desire for companionship. The monogamy part is obviously inconvenient when trying to have the best of both worlds.
Anyway, I agree with you, introducing various friends to the FKK world has also led me to believe that there are varying degrees of sexual desire. If all men prioritized sex as the most important thing above all else, one would think that if religious / moral restraints and financial constraints were accounted for, all men who have visited FKKs would make it a priority to visit these clubs or a similar establishment barring that they are able to get free premium pussy otherwise.
In my lifetime, I've introduce about a half dozen friends / colleagues to the FKK world and not one developed the habit to the degree that many of us have on this board. One immediately felt uneasy in the clubs. One would probably visit often if finances did not hold him back. Two are now married. Two others who are not very religious and have plenty of financial resources had a great time yet they do not make it a point to return often. They do visit strip clubs and have paid for sex in Vegas or Central America but do make sex vacations the norm.
As for the extremely obese men, well, I don't entirely agree. Having sex with a hot woman may indeed be their greatest wish in life but sometimes their laziness, habits, and or depression may limit their actions. Most smokers know that cigarettes smoking will likely lead to lung cancer, but they continue to smoke a pack a day for 10,20, or 30+ years. I'm sure that living is on the top of their list of motivating factors but they are too addicted to their habit to do anything about it.
But yeah, loads and variety of pussy does not motivate all men to the same degree. Some actually value stability and companionship more. Some may even prefer porn to the real thing.
On the German FKK threads? Most ISGers seem to have either neutral or negative views towards marriage IMO.Could be, but I know for a fact that many mongers are in fact married, but they won't openly admit it, not even in a place like this. It's due to the added stigma of seeing prostitutes behind the wife's back. That said, I also have one friend whose wife encouraged him to see tutes after she lost her sex drive. She understood that he still had needs. She just had two rules. Number 1, don't spend too much money. And number 2, never bring one of those tutes to her house ever! Now, imagine that!
You only think from your data, you don't think like a European. Metz is capital of a district in France, important town in France, even maybe not famous. I doubt 580000 people in Roermond, maybe better to check reliability of your data. In Formula 1 full of data, some pilots say ingeneer: keep your data, let me drive.Yes, typo. Of all things, Roermond: 58 K.
Synonym for data is facts.
What does capital matter in size of city? Vaduz is the capital of the nation of Liechtenstein. The population of Vaduz is 5,600.
London 9 Million: Mega.
Madrid 3.2 Million: Big.
Lyon 500 K - 1.6 million Metro: Larger Medium.
Saarbruken - 180 K - 700 K Metro: Smaller Medium.
Metz - 116 K - 300 K Metro: Small.
Roermond - 58 K: Tiny / Petit.
ExpatLover
04-10-21, 05:12
Could be, but I know for a fact that many mongers are in fact married, but they won't openly admit it, not even in a place like this. It's due to the added stigma of seeing prostitutes behind the wife's back. That said, I also have one friend whose wife encouraged him to see tutes after she lost her sex drive. She understood that he still had needs. She just had two rules. Number 1, don't spend too much money. And number 2, never bring one of those tutes to her house ever! Now, imagine that!Following the 2 rules looks like a big challenge, how to visit a prostitute and having 0 risk to get a MST seems impossible for me, just because the girls have so many customers every day coming from everywhere without any control of their health status, second also very difficult to keep the head cold with the money when I see even here some mongers are speaking about passion, love. With a prostitute.
PaulInZurich
04-10-21, 08:23
But yeah, loads and variety of pussy does not motivate all men to the same degree.Habit and availability are important too.
Before 2020 it was normal to decide last moment on my way home from work that I'll get off public transit at a different stop and end up in Globe for a couple of hours.
I get pinged by WGs when they show up in Switzerland but stopped going to clubs after they were forced to have ID checks. I boinked a few of them working in apartments now, heck I boinked one on Thursday, but it's not the same as being in the temple of debauchery. It's too planned ahead. Part of the fun was not knowing who will tickle my fancy that evening.
According to these ex-playmates, Hefner did not seem like he was into the sex with them. In all fairness, Hefner would have been mid-to-late 70's when this all went down.
Holly Madison:
Kendra Wilkinson:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/playboy-mansion-bunnies-reveal-hugh-hefners-bizarre-and-degrading-sex-rituals/NWLCARSQGW3M4L7IFEREG7RE64/I think many WGs would say same from many guys, when many don t fuck. Except few rooms when I gave up not to waste my time, never had a room going to the end, without fucking and of course kissing.
Could be, but I know for a fact that many mongers are in fact married, but they won't openly admit it, not even in a place like this. It's due to the added stigma of seeing prostitutes behind the wife's back. That said, I also have one friend whose wife encouraged him to see tutes after she lost her sex drive. She understood that he still had needs. She just had two rules. Number 1, don't spend too much money. And number 2, never bring one of those tutes to her house ever! Now, imagine that!Just ask girls, so many married, they don't believe you are not married, asking: why? Looking at your fingers to check if no mark.
As for the extremely obese men, well, I don't entirely agree. Having sex with a hot woman may indeed be their greatest wish in life but sometimes their laziness, habits, and or depression may limit their actions. Most smokers know that cigarettes smoking will likely lead to lung cancer, but they continue to smoke a pack a day for 10,20, or 30+ years. I'm sure that living is on the top of their list of motivating factors but they are too addicted to their habit to do anything about it..Smoking does not hamper one's ability to have sex to the degree of extreme obesity. Most people start smoking in their teens or early 20's when they believe themselves to be invincible. And if used in moderation, I would argue that smoking, drinking, and drugs increases your opportunities to socialize with your peers, and thus ability to get laid. Also average age of death from lung cancer is 70, well beyond the horniest years for the male species. We see many men (aged 40-60) in the clubs smoking like chimneys but still walking up that steep Sharks staircase multiple times a day to swim in warm pussy, whereas extreme obesity would probably lead to death by age 40, and maybe be bedridden a few years before that.
But yeah, loads and variety of pussy does not motivate all men to the same degree. Some actually value stability and companionship more. Some may even prefer porn to the real thing.Agreed. See post #14056 about Hefner's alleged porn and masturbation while his playmates cavorted. Warm pussies in the same room, but preferred his own hand.
Could be, but I know for a fact that many mongers are in fact married, but they won't openly admit it, not even in a place like this. It's due to the added stigma of seeing prostitutes behind the wife's back.Many married monger monger, but I would say these men would be casual mongers. Your average ISGer is at the extreme 1 percent of this hobby, and will dedicate significantly more time to this hobby (travelling, posting, brothel visits). Just making an educated guess but most of us are unmarried, no GF, and probably not many social obligations (visiting friends and family).
.....Many men are able lead happy lives having much less sex than we do. You said yourself your older brother introduced you to WGs, but now he prefers drinking beer and hanging out with friends. Did he find religion? Did he get married? Or just got old and lost interest in fornicating? In either case, I suspect your mongering career and thirst for the hobby surpassed his a long time ago, perhaps even when both of you were in your physical prime.My brother is not religious and like me not married. He took me to my first visit to a brothel several decades ago; at that time he was already a seasoned monger. He showed me the ropes. However, he has always been a heavy drinker, smoker and gambler. Those activities took precedence over his mongering and indeed sex in general. In my case sex takes second place only to work. Everything else comes after. Is my brother happy? Yes he is. Is he happier than me? He looks so when I see him hanging out with his buddies, but outside of that I don't think he is.
According to these ex-playmates, Hefner did not seem like he was into the sex with them. In all fairness, Hefner would have been mid-to-late 70's when this all went down....Well you said it, he was in his mid to late seventies when he could cavort with the playmates and not much more but think of all those decades of debauchery with the world's hottest babes. Pure ecstasy.
Continuing along the question: does the lack of warm vaginas lead to men to violence. A good case study might be Tobias Rathjen, 43 year old. This February 2020 mass shooting seemed to fall under the radar, but the shooter had both financial resources (photo of his newish BMW in the article linked below) and proximity to cheap commercial sex. Hanau is a short drive to many FKKs: 7 minutes to Atlanta, 17 min to Mainhattan, 36 min to Sharks. To my knowledge, Rathjen was not religious.
This article offers some commentary on the manifesto Rathjen posted, and makes me wonder if Rathjen was an ISGer himself. Below themes seem present: paranoia, narcissism, superiority of his own race, blaming others for inability to get a wife, delusional about his own significance in the world (elite football player, monitored by secret services), conspiracy theories, hatred for "inferior" races and cultures, called for citizens to wake up and fight now against the cabal of elite who hold secret knowledge.
Paranoia meets megalomania. A dangerous combination, enriched by the narcissistic insults of the perpetrator.
Rathjen was dissatisfied; he believed that he was being monitored by a secret service and that he was waging war against migrants.
The 43-year-old was apparently a loner. In his manifesto it says that he has "had no wife / girlfriend in his life". In October 2000, he began studying business administration in Bayreuth, also with the hope of finally meeting an attractive woman there. But he did not find his "love happiness".
In his manifesto he expresses himself on more than one side of football: He claims to have been a good player and gives the German Football Association (DFB) strategy tips for the national team.
If you believe the manifesto, Rathjen felt that he was being watched by other people even as a child. Rathjen explained that he could not find a wife because of the influence of the secret services.
My brother is not religious and like me not married. He took me to my first visit to a brothel several decades ago; at that time he was already a seasoned monger. He showed me the ropes. However, he has always been a heavy drinker, smoker and gambler. Those activities took precedence over his mongering and indeed sex in general. In my case sex takes second place only to work. Everything else comes after. Is my brother happy? Yes he is. Is he happier than me? He looks so when I see him hanging out with his buddies, but outside of that I don't think he is.Thanks for additional insight. Seems consistent with what we see in Germany, in that many clubs are adjacent to casinos. Although there is probably significant overlap between the two, some men drive past an FKK and go directly to the casino. A t some point, mongering just fell off the list of priorities completely for your brother. Can you point to a life event that triggered that or just old age? I suspect many older mongers just shift their behaviors from purely sexual acts to acts more associated with intimacy. You seem to imply that you are retired now and over the pandemic that you were stuck in sex prison (maybe NYC). This means sex has now shifted to your highest priority. Why not change your homebase to a different place where you can stretch your money farther and place you in closer proximity to mongering?
Could be, but I know for a fact that many mongers are in fact married, but they won't openly admit it, not even in a place like this. It's due to the added stigma of seeing prostitutes behind the wife's back. That said, I also have one friend whose wife encouraged him to see tutes after she lost her sex drive. She understood that he still had needs. She just had two rules. Number 1, don't spend too much money. And number 2, never bring one of those tutes to her house ever! Now, imagine that!I'll bet that guy was happy that he wifed her up. Could do a lot worse, for sure. As for WG's always asking the marriage question in the clubs, who the hell knows why they ask? Maybe it's a form of social proof to have a ring? Better they think you have better skills in das zimmer? Less chance of being a stalker? Like I said, I don't understand why they ask the question. Odd.
PaulInZurich
04-10-21, 19:06
I'll bet that guy was happy that he wifed her up. Could do a lot worse, for sure. As for WG's always asking the marriage question in the clubs, who the hell knows why they ask? Maybe it's a form of social proof to have a ring? Better they think you have better skills in das zimmer? Less chance of being a stalker? Like I said, I don't understand why they ask the question. Odd.It's the same reason they ask, what is your name, where are you from, what do you work, etc. No special meaning.
Yes, typo. Of all things, Roermond: 58 K.
Synonym for data is facts.
What does capital matter in size of city? Vaduz is the capital of the nation of Liechtenstein. The population of Vaduz is 5,600.
London 9 Million: Mega.
Madrid 3.2 Million: Big.
Lyon 500 K - 1.6 million Metro: Larger Medium.
Saarbruken - 180 K - 700 K Metro: Smaller Medium.
Metz - 116 K - 300 K Metro: Small.
Roermond - 58 K: Tiny / Petit.I didn't waste time to check all populations of your data, but at least 1 error. For sure, Metz is not NYC, but once again, not small on EU standards and important town in France. Evry 91 or Aurillac 15 are smaller but also important in France, a bit like Bismarck North Dakota in US.
In highest level Formula 1, data make mistakes on race, when pilots feel the real.
I'll bet that guy was happy that he wifed her up. Could do a lot worse, for sure. As for WG's always asking the marriage question in the clubs, who the hell knows why they ask? Maybe it's a form of social proof to have a ring? Better they think you have better skills in das zimmer? Less chance of being a stalker? Like I said, I don't understand why they ask the question. Odd.Yeah, I had one at Mainhattan ask me if I was married. Many girls have, but I remember her in particular because of the surprising answer she gave me when I asked her why she wanted to know that. She said because she would not go with any married men LOLOLOL! My first thought was what's to make her think that a monger just wouldn't lie about that? And my second thought was that she wouldn't last long in the business. She didn't. Glad I did her though, because she was a good fuck. And about the last I recall having at Mainhattan too haha!
I'll bet that guy was happy that he wifed her up. Could do a lot worse, for sure. As for WG's always asking the marriage question in the clubs, who the hell knows why they ask? Maybe it's a form of social proof to have a ring? Better they think you have better skills in das zimmer? Less chance of being a stalker? Like I said, I don't understand why they ask the question. Odd.Nearly all girls ask me and look at my fingers, also about my job. When I m bored, I sometimes answer I work as clown in circus, so they look at me with big eyes. I could also say I'm a criminal in Switzerland, which is not even a lie, to impress them. WGs telling most of guys claim to be businessman, I prefer to say I build for the world and I m proud about, keeping on taking risks outside under virus.
Smoking does not hamper one's ability to have sex to the degree of extreme obesity. Most people start smoking in their teens or early 20's when they believe themselves to be invincible. And if used in moderation, I would argue that smoking, drinking, and drugs increases your opportunities to socialize with your peers, and thus ability to get laid. Also average age of death from lung cancer is 70, well beyond the horniest years for the male species. We see many men (aged 40-60) in the clubs smoking like chimneys but still walking up that steep Sharks staircase multiple times a day to swim in warm pussy, whereas extreme obesity would probably lead to death by age 40, and maybe be bedridden a few years before that.
No disagreement there. The smoking bit was just an example of people making decisions that hinder their main motivation. Just as the obese man likely knows that his body habitus interferes with an active social and sexual life but chooses to eat the cake anyway. The smoker also knows that his habit substantially shortens his life but still smokes a whole pack anyway.
A person's main motivation may not be reflected by their actions, especially if the barrier of entry or activation energy requires substantial will power. Most people choose the easier path in life, despite any higher or deeper goals.
I didn't waste time to check all populations of your data, but at least 1 error. For sure, Metz is not NYC, but once again, not small on EU standards and important town in France. Evry 91 or Aurillac 15 are smaller but also important in France, a bit like Bismarck North Dakota in US.
In highest level Formula 1, data make mistakes on race, when pilots feel the real.The Vatican is another very important "city. " It has only 825 official residents.
I'll take my knowledge of my own primary language over a Frenchman's broken English when assessing what connotations are attached to an English word.
Yes, typo. Of all things, Roermond: 58 K.
Synonym for data is facts.
What does capital matter in size of city? Vaduz is the capital of the nation of Liechtenstein. The population of Vaduz is 5,600.
London 9 Million: Mega.
Madrid 3.2 Million: Big.
Lyon 500 K - 1.6 million Metro: Larger Medium.
Saarbruken - 180 K - 700 K Metro: Smaller Medium.
Metz - 116 K - 300 K Metro: Small.
Roermond - 58 K: Tiny / Petit.Weired, I am pretty sure wikipedia says Madrid has 6. 345 million people in 2019.
Nobody goes by lines on a map definition such as municipality borders etc. Thus I mentioned City of London and Chongqing and simply wrong definition outliers.
That was urban population. At least one can stick to the same definition globally.
Kate from Aca amd GT told me that she prefers to go with unmarried men, not because she has problems with fucking a married guy. It's because she thinks that most married men have smaller leisure budgets, limited personal free time, and thus, more safeguards to prevent spending too much time and money with hookers. Basically, she sees married men as having lower ceilings for profit.
She prefers single men because they are more impulsive, more addictive, have bigger budgets, and more likely to become loyal fans.
No disagreement there. The smoking bit was just an example of people making decisions that hinder their main motivation. Just as the obese man likely knows that his body habitus interferes with an active social and sexual life but chooses to eat the cake anyway. The smoker also knows that his habit substantially shortens his life but still smokes a whole pack anyway.
A person's main motivation may not be reflected by their actions, especially if the barrier of entry or activation energy requires substantial will power. Most people choose the easier path in life, despite any higher or deeper goals.Isn't being fit, sporty, not smoking nor drinking, more healthy and efficient to fight virus? Not being diabetics of course. Also better to perform in bed, then no need viagra.
Thanks for additional insight. Seems consistent with what we see in Germany, in that many clubs are adjacent to casinos. Although there is probably significant overlap between the two, some men drive past an FKK and go directly to the casino. A t some point, mongering just fell off the list of priorities completely for your brother. Can you point to a life event that triggered that or just old age? I suspect many older mongers just shift their behaviors from purely sexual acts to acts more associated with intimacy. You seem to imply that you are retired now and over the pandemic that you were stuck in sex prison (maybe NYC). This means sex has now shifted to your highest priority. Why not change your homebase to a different place where you can stretch your money farther and place you in closer proximity to mongering?The turning point for my brother was sometime in the late 1970's or early 80's (memory's getting a bit foggy now) he was badly beaten by some bouncers in a NYC brothel when he demanded his money back after he got very bad service from a hooker (I think it was more like no service). I had been to that brothel and their bouncers looked like body builders and wore cropped tank tops. After that experience he slowed down considerably on mongering and shacked up with a Puerto Rican for many years. She was a long suffering girlfriend who tried to get him to stop drinking and gambling but that was impossible.
Your advice to change my home base was on the cards but covid interrupted my plans. I cannot relocate to Germany, my favorite stomping ground, but have narrowed my options to Brazil, Colombia or Thailand.
ExpatLover
04-11-21, 17:21
The turning point for my brother was sometime in the late 1970's or early 80's (memory's getting a bit foggy now) he was badly beaten by some bouncers in a NYC brothel when he demanded his money back after he got very bad service from a hooker (I think it was more like no service). I had been to that brothel and their bouncers looked like body builders and wore cropped tank tops. After that experience he slowed down considerably on mongering and shacked up with a Puerto Rican for many years. She was a long suffering girlfriend who tried to get him to stop drinking and gambling but that was impossible.
Your advice to change my home base was on the cards but covid interrupted my plans. I cannot relocate to Germany, my favorite stomping ground, but have narrowed my options to Brazil, Colombia or Thailand.I hope your plan was not linked with the FKK, sex should not be the main driver for our decisions and specially not prostitutes.
Kate from Aca amd GT told me that she prefers to go with unmarried men, not because she has problems with fucking a married guy. It's because she thinks that most married men have smaller leisure budgets, limited personal free time, and thus, more safeguards to prevent spending too much time and money with hookers. Basically, she sees married men as having lower ceilings for profit.
She prefers single men because they are more impulsive, more addictive, have bigger budgets, and more likely to become loyal fans.When she was really not selective for clients, when had few rooms with her for 5 years, never heard this from her, she never talked about money with me and I saw her having so many 40 € rooms, before becoming booked for whole day in Bruggen.
Yeah, I had one at Mainhattan ask me if I was married. Many girls have, but I remember her in particular because of the surprising answer she gave me when I asked her why she wanted to know that. She said because she would not go with any married men LOLOLOL! My first thought was what's to make her think that a monger just wouldn't lie about that? And my second thought was that she wouldn't last long in the business. She didn't. Glad I did her though, because she was a good fuck. And about the last I recall having at Mainhattan too haha!For sure, if she refused married, she must have died from starvation. Some WGs are into telling to some guys it would be easier if he was single, to buy a house in Romania and live together, before her phone doesn't answer anymore.
Same here with one of my hot, blonde Romies. She's been home for more than a year now, and doesn't look the worse for wear. Always smiling and enjoying life and going with the flow. Good for her.All that money earned in the west isn't just stimulating the Romanian economy. I see now that one of my favorite blonde Romies is now enjoying a vacation in Egypt! She posted some photos of her beautiful self over there. WTF? How is she going to and vacationing in Egypt at this time?
PaulInZurich
04-11-21, 19:04
For sure, if she refused married, she must have died from starvation. Some WGs are into telling to some guys it would be easier if he was single, to buy a house in Romania and live together, before her phone doesn't answer anymore.Yes, some suckers give prostitutes EUR 15 000 to "save" them, before they realize she gave all that money to her pimp.
All that money earned in the west isn't just stimulating the Romanian economy. I see now that one of my favorite blonde Romies is now enjoying a vacation in Egypt! She posted some photos of her beautiful self over there. WTF? How is she going to and vacationing in Egypt at this time?Egypt and Turkey are in need of tourism, they welcome tourists, when Erdogan is killing Turkey economy, fortunately for him, Germany can't say anything.
All that money earned in the west isn't just stimulating the Romanian economy. I see now that one of my favorite blonde Romies is now enjoying a vacation in Egypt! She posted some photos of her beautiful self over there. WTF? How is she going to and vacationing in Egypt at this time?Old pictures?
When she was really not selective for clients, when had few rooms with her for 5 years, never heard this from her, she never talked about money with me and I saw her having so many 40 rooms, before becoming booked for whole day in Bruggen.You are right that she was a machine, going with anyone and making many Turks at Aca finish in 10 minutes. Even at GT, she was not so selective but very busy. If she had time for a room, she would always go. She was a consummate professional.
It should not be surprising that our conversations are very different. She and I are in the same Millennial generation. We speak as if we were both Uni students. The conversation between a Millennial and a Boomer / GenXer would expectedly be much different.
Or perhaps the conversations differ because, as you say, you are not interested in the girls outside of the club. She knows that I am open to seeing prostitutes in my personal life. Knowing my history, she asks for my opinion regarding having personal relationships with prostitutes, as she was struggling to incorporate her personal love interest and her occupation.
You said it yourself, you prefer to not have a relationship with a prostitute outside of the club. As such, why would you two discuss how having a boyfriend makes her job much harder. For you, talking about money and business kills your mood. As you say, you prefer for girls to be elegant. It wouldn't make sense for her to talk business with you if she felt that you are attracted to her elegance.
ExpatLover
04-12-21, 16:12
Egypt and Turkey are in need of tourism, they welcome tourists, when Erdogan is killing Turkey economy, fortunately for him, Germany can't say anything.Yes when you have 10 millions Turkish you are no more able to speak the reality, like in France with 10 millions Muslim very difficult to say there is a problem with the Islam, with the place of the women in the Muslim countries or Muslim families, with the democracy in Muslim country as so on, it is the price to pay, obviously in Poland, Hungary, Slovenia. They are not facing the same problems.
Isn't being fit, sporty, not smoking nor drinking, more healthy and efficient to fight virus? Not being diabetics of course. Also better to perform in bed, then no need viagra.Not sure what you are you trying to say when responding to a post that just makes the basic claim that people often do not have habits that reflect their primary life motivations.
You are right that she was a machine, going with anyone and making many Turks at Aca finish in 10 minutes. Even at GT, she was not so selective but very busy. If she had time for a room, she would always go. She was a consummate professional.
It should not be surprising that our conversations are very different. She and I are in the same Millennial generation. We speak as if we were both Uni students. The conversation between a Millennial and a Boomer / GenXer would expectedly be much different.
Or perhaps the conversations differ because, as you say, you are not interested in the girls outside of the club. She knows that I am open to seeing prostitutes in my personal life. Knowing my history, she asks for my opinion regarding having personal relationships with prostitutes, as she was struggling to incorporate her personal love interest and her occupation.
You said it yourself, you prefer to not have a relationship with a prostitute outside of the club. As such, why would you two discuss how having a boyfriend makes her job much harder. For you, talking about money and business kills your mood. As you say, you prefer for girls to be elegant. It wouldn't make sense for her to talk business with you if she felt that you are attracted to her elegance.I m sure she would not like if I told about our conversations, my respect for her, but what I liked is she never spoke about money when we were together and I m pretty sure I was with her at least 10 times more often than you. I think many proposed her for more than club, not me of course, just super sexy and more interesting than average for me, just enough. I wish her to feel fine with her self image when she really didn't need to change anything, then maybe, she will think for more for her life.
Yes, some suckers give prostitutes EUR 15 000 to "save" them, before they realize she gave all that money to her pimp.Keep on repeating from guys you don't even know and who don't know anything, just obsessed followers since 8 years, but for sure not for climbing, matter of look.
I m sure she would not like if I told about our conversations, my respect for her, but what I liked is she never spoke about money when we were together and I m pretty sure I was with her at least 10 times more often than you. I think many proposed her for more than club, not me of course, just super sexy and more interesting than average for me, just enough. I wish her to feel fine with her self image when she really didn't need to change anything, then maybe, she will think for more for her life.You're probably right. She might not like it and you have been with her 10 x more than me.
But that doesn't change the fact that she said it, does it?
PaulInZurich
04-13-21, 03:39
It must have been somebody else with the same nick, similar delusions and the same writing "style" even if supposedly in his native language, he is a used condom counter too, although seemed to spend more per session in those days. I guess if the Romies rip you off 15.000 you are left with less and less.
BigBuddy69
04-13-21, 07:57
You're probably right. She might not like it and you have been with her 10 x more than me.I think she would like even less to read on internet that prostitutes are not clever, have no self esteem, are ready to do anything for money, that no normal men would date an ex prostitute, especially if it's written by a prostitute addict who acts like some servile slave in their presence.
BigBuddy69
04-13-21, 07:58
Yes, some suckers give prostitutes EUR 15 000 to "save" them, before they realize she gave all that money to her pimp.They even pay limo rides and champagne to some dancer in a puti club in Spain, 1000 € wasted in a night to have the illusion that no, she's not a prostitute. And they are so dumb that they document in on the Internet!
I think she would like even less to read on internet that prostitutes are not clever, have no self esteem, are ready to do anything for money, that no normal men would date an ex prostitute, especially if it's written by a prostitute addict who acts like some servile slave in their presence.Well, we all know saying those things are just a defense mechanism after being swindled out of 15.000 euro.
You're probably right. She might not like it and you have been with her 10 x more than me.
But that doesn't change the fact that she said it, does it?I remember many times she told me not to believe what was said in this business. I found her interesting about her woman, but not only about sex, reactions, how her image could be important for her, how she could be upset, often from misunderstanding, and funny about her woman intimacy when we chatted about. I wish her to be able for a new life, and will be happy to find new ones like her, when more interesting than many of the prettiest I got, probably why she became GT busy superstar with some BF booking her for days, so I told her I had no desire to wait, she proposed me: take appointment and I will be free for you, like did her BF, but I never did, more enjoyable for me when she was free and smiling welcoming like on our last time in mirrors, after I received dark eyes at LR, and she knew I preferred at Velbert, nothing about 80 or 100.
I remember many times she told me not to believe what was said in this business. I found her interesting about her woman, but not only about sex, reactions, how her image could be important for her, how she could be upset, often from misunderstanding, and funny about her woman intimacy when we chatted about. I wish her to be able for a new life, and will be happy to find new ones like her, when more interesting than many of the prettiest I got, probably why she became GT busy superstar with some BF booking her for days, so I told her I had no desire to wait, she proposed me: take appointment and I will be free for you, like did her BF, but I never did, more enjoyable for me when she was free and smiling welcoming like on our last time in mirrors, after I received dark eyes at LR, and she knew I preferred at Velbert, nothing about 80 or 100.Kate was surely one of the best. Apparently also very good at grooming her regulars too.
RedBull691
04-14-21, 10:19
Might be a while before us UK guys can travel out to Germany again for some fun. Here's hoping we can get out at end of summer.
Kate was surely one of the best. Apparently also very good at grooming her regulars too.I would say more interesting than average, but she knew I preferred at Velbert, I m not good to take my ticket to wait, no desire for me. I m not interested to take appointment, I prefer when girls make free for me, more exciting for me.
Might be a while before us UK guys can travel out to Germany again for some fun. Here's hoping we can get out at end of summer.When Denmark decided to stop, not just delay, AZ, when many Europeans refuse AZ, when Johnson will be delayed, so Bavarian who is thinking for after beloved Angela, bought sputnik, even not allowed in EU, after he closed border with cousin Tirol. At, so I doubt he will support risky playfield brothels, when after UK mutant, south African and Brazilian already arrived in EU. Brothels were open for about 5 months in Germany in 2020, I doubt for this year and before elections.
ExpatLover
04-15-21, 05:55
Might be a while before us UK guys can travel out to Germany again for some fun. Here's hoping we can get out at end of summer.You should look about what is happening now in India, second largest population in the world, they use a lot of Remdisivir which is a terrible medicine creating a lot of variants. I don t believe this will not impact negatively the covid situation in the world.
Might be a while before us UK guys can travel out to Germany again for some fun. Here's hoping we can get out at end of summer.I don't expect to get back until very late this year or even this time next year. The vaccination fiasco only continues as the EU is falling even further behind as cases climb. I have three weeks booked off work for the end of the year intending to go to Thailand but they are now experiencing a surge in cases, Germany was my second choice but that's looking less likely. I can only wait and see if countries that I would want to go to will open up.
ExpatLover
04-15-21, 09:58
I don't expect to get back until very late this year or even this time next year. The vaccination fiasco only continues as the EU is falling even further behind as cases climb. I have three weeks booked off work for the end of the year intending to go to Thailand but they are now experiencing a surge in cases, Germany was my second choice but that's looking less likely. I can only wait and see if countries that I would want to go to will open up.For me the logic to say that the vaccination is the solution of all the problems and when 80% of the population will be vaccinated, life will come back to what it was end of 2019, needs at least to be challenged. Vaccines are a tool like masks, social distancing,. But I don t believe they can be a 100% game changer, just because new variants are popping up even boosted by the remdesivir which is a dangerous medicine which should be prohibited. India is using it intensively remdesivir therefor the risk of new mutants looks very high for me. Is the situation getting better in the last 6 months, sorry I don t believe. You are speaking about the fiasco in Europe but if in 5 years a new medical scandal emerge link with the use of ARN vaccines may be we will be happy of being slow, the overall situation is a big concern for me, what will happen in the coming months with Brazil and India will be very important because both have big population very interconnected with other countries world wide so more able to widely spread the new variants.
For me the logic to say that the vaccination is the solution of all the problems and when 80% of the population will be vaccinated, life will come back to what it was end of 2019, needs at least to be challenged. Vaccines are a tool like masks, social distancing,. But I don t believe they can be a 100% game changer, just because new variants are popping up even boosted by the remdesivir which is a dangerous medicine which should be prohibited. India is using it intensively remdesivir therefor the risk of new mutants looks very high for me. Is the situation getting better in the last 6 months, sorry I don t believe. You are speaking about the fiasco in Europe but if in 5 years a new medical scandal emerge link with the use of ARN vaccines may be we will be happy of being slow, the overall situation is a big concern for me, what will happen in the coming months with Brazil and India will be very important because both have big population very interconnected with other countries world wide so more able to widely spread the new variants.Is the situation better than 6 months ago? No, not better.
But since the date of the first vaccine given, yes, it's gotten better.
In European Union:
7.8 deaths per million on first vaccination (21-Dec-2020) and 6.26 deaths per million this past week.
Compare to vaccinated UK:
6.28 deaths per million on first vaccination (08-Dec-2020) and 0.5 deaths per million this past week.
Or Israel.
2 deaths per million on first vaccination (24-Dec-2020) and 0.76 deaths per million this past week.
It is better in both UK and Europe, even better in heavily vaccinated UK and Israel. Vaccines can't be the only solution, but they sure seem to be pretty effective so far. Even if boosters are needed, at lease there's a way out of this mess.
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-12-08..latest&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=GBR~European+Union~ISR
For me the logic to say that the vaccination is the solution of all the problems and when 80% of the population will be vaccinated, life will come back to what it was end of 2019, needs at least to be challenged.When you listen to the experts they repeatedly say that vaccines are not the complete answer. They are very effective in reducing transmission and severity in the general population, enough to reduce the restrictions as the most vulnerable are immunised. The EU is overreacting to the incredibly few incidents of CVST in the 100 millions vaccinated and are ignoring the fact that there are 8 - 10 times as many incidents of CVST amongst those infected with Covid. Rare reactions like these happen with any vaccine but this time it is being subject to worldwide scruitiny where perfection is demanded.
When you listen to the experts they repeatedly say that vaccines are not the complete answer. They are very effective in reducing transmission and severity in the general population, enough to reduce the restrictions as the most vulnerable are immunised. The EU is overreacting to the incredibly few incidents of CVST in the 100 millions vaccinated and are ignoring the fact that there are 8 - 10 times as many incidents of CVST amongst those infected with Covid. Rare reactions like these happen with any vaccine but this time it is being subject to worldwide scruitiny where perfection is demanded.Vaccine should help not to be heavily sick, but not even sure for South African and Brazilian which are now in EU. But our doctors advice to keep on mask, even after vaccine which can't help spreading. Italy opened and closed, same for Ontario, Japan tried and under restrictions again, and without needing our new more killer mutants.
PaulInZurich
04-16-21, 10:06
When you listen to the experts they repeatedly say that vaccines are not the complete answer. They are very effective in reducing transmission and severity in the general population, enough to reduce the restrictions as the most vulnerable are immunised. The EU is overreacting to the incredibly few incidents of CVST in the 100 millions vaccinated and are ignoring the fact that there are 8 - 10 times as many incidents of CVST amongst those infected with Covid. Rare reactions like these happen with any vaccine but this time it is being subject to worldwide scruitiny where perfection is demanded.Similar opinion here. I hope that once most vulnerable population (let's say over 65, plus people with chronic diseases) are vaccinated, that should reflect in number of people in hospitals + number of deaths. Then lifting of restrictions could follow. I would expect travel restrictions to stay in place for countries with high numbers.
The reaction to AZ and J&J is in the area damned if you, damned if you don't. The headlines would be "They are hiding things from us. Why are they not taking this seriously?" I don't know what would be more damaging.
ExpatLover
04-16-21, 12:02
When you listen to the experts they repeatedly say that vaccines are not the complete answer. They are very effective in reducing transmission and severity in the general population, enough to reduce the restrictions as the most vulnerable are immunised. The EU is overreacting to the incredibly few incidents of CVST in the 100 millions vaccinated and are ignoring the fact that there are 8 - 10 times as many incidents of CVST amongst those infected with Covid. Rare reactions like these happen with any vaccine but this time it is being subject to worldwide scruitiny where perfection is demanded.Europe faced several medical scandals in the last 40 years, and trust is something that the people in responsibility have to win, it is not granted. Most of the people just want to get back the life from before, and the politicians make them thing that this will be possible if they get vaccinated and follow strictly the stupid rules of the different useless lockdown. And what if the vaccine are not efficient enough, if we need to get revaccinated every 6 months (hypothesis on the table in Israel), today he situation is worse that I ever expected, just check what was promised by the leaders 6 months back, and where we are today. There is a possibility that the life from 2019 will not come back before 10 or 20 years may be never. The situation is critical in 2 big countries Brazil and India what will happen there in the coming months will be very important for the rest of the world, many new variants can pop up and the vaccines could also face big efficiency issues to fight those variants.
When you listen to the experts they repeatedly say that vaccines are not the complete answer. They are very effective in reducing transmission and severity in the general population, enough to reduce the restrictions as the most vulnerable are immunised. The EU is overreacting to the incredibly few incidents of CVST in the 100 millions vaccinated and are ignoring the fact that there are 8 - 10 times as many incidents of CVST amongst those infected with Covid. Rare reactions like these happen with any vaccine but this time it is being subject to worldwide scruitiny where perfection is demanded.Problem is that even if deaths so far have been few, far more have shown dangerously extreme amounts of white blood cells following the vaccines. 2.8% are showing these extreme numbers. While 8%+ are showing less increases, but still some increase. Which may cause problems long term.
That is from the AZ vaccine. Not from covid.
BigBuddy69
04-16-21, 22:37
Problem is that even if deaths so far have been few, far more have shown dangerously extreme amounts of white blood cells following the vaccines. 2.8% are showing these extreme numbers. While 8%+ are showing less increases, but still some increase. Which may cause problems long term.Once again you're making up the figures.
Vaccine should help not to be heavily sick, but not even sure for South African and Brazilian which are now in EU. But our doctors advice to keep on mask, even after vaccine which can't help spreading. Italy opened and closed, same for Ontario, Japan tried and under restrictions again, and without needing our new more killer mutants.Time to incorporate new data. Form new opinions.
Offers protection against British, South African, and Brazilian variants and greater Antibody levels to them than with natural immunity.
Preliminary evidence suggests that the currently authorized COVID-19 vaccines may provide some protection against a variety of strains, including B.1.1.7 (originally identified in the United Kingdom). Reduced antibody neutralization and efficacy have been observed for the B.1.351 strain (originally identified in South Africa). However, across studies, antibody neutralizing activity of sera from vaccinated people was still generally higher than that observed for convalescent sera from people who have recovered from COVID-19.
A growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection and potentially less likely to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. However, further investigation is ongoin
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html
Many of the vaccine efficacy studies were carried out before the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 VOCs. In studies that address the variants, there is limited preliminary evidence of reduced vaccine efficacy, in particular for B.1.351 and possibly also for P.1.
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/sars-cov-2-transmission-newly-infected-individuals-previous-infectionReduces spread:
The new study, by researchers at the C.D.C., suggested that since infections were so rare, transmission was likely rare, too.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/29/world/pfizer-moderna-covid-vaccines-infection.html
If you cant get infected, you cant infect anyone else, which means the vaccines can reduce transmission as well as the disease, says Marm Kilpatrick, an infectious diseases researcher at the University of California, Santa Cruz, who was not involved in the study.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-vaccine-moderna-pfizer-transmission-disease
Recent results from real-world studies show the COVID-19 vaccines protect against asymptomatic infection, suggesting they also drastically reduce virus transmission
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/04/03/covid-vaccines-reduce-transmission-but-still-wear-mask-experts-say/4833945001/Good one dose efficacy and reduced spread. Needs peer review:
Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine reduces transmission after one dose - UK study
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-tra-idUSKBN2AQ1A7
Once again you're making up the figures.Well, not to mention that elevated WBCs / leukocytes itself doesn't actually directly cause many problems. It's just the result of either inflammation or leukemia if cells are immature, and used as an indicator of other processes, but rarely ever the cause.
All it means is that you have a high number of granulocytes, monocytes, and to a lesser degree, a corresponding increase in B_and_T lymphocytes.
Basically, if WBCs are elevated, we already know what we need to know. How much it's elevated is not all that useful. In conditions such leukemia, when immature cells are massively released into the bloodstream, then it may lead to a hyper-viscosity syndrome. But the clinical picture in that scenario is not consistent with vaccine side effects.
You should look about what is happening now in India, second largest population in the world, they use a lot of Remdisivir which is a terrible medicine creating a lot of variants. I don t believe this will not impact negatively the covid situation in the world.I don't think that Remdisivir can cause resisist covid because it stops replication and therefore would lessen the chance of resistance.
. But the clinical picture in that scenario is not consistent with vaccine side effects.Do you wannabe?
Time to incorporate new data. Form new opinions.
Offers protection against British, South African, and Brazilian variants and greater Antibody levels to them than with natural immunity.
Reduces spread:Good one dose efficacy and reduced spread. Needs peer review:Pfizer now say for third dose and yearly dose for mutants, they will make good business. I m afraid sad times to come, when UK mutant killed a lot since beginning of the year, but I m afraid south African and Brazilian may also kill a lot in EU, when killed in Summer in Brazil. High vaccine rate in UK, but still restrictions and also for so important today.
Pfizer now say for third dose and yearly dose for mutants, they will make good business. I m afraid sad times to come, when UK mutant killed a lot since beginning of the year, but I m afraid south African and Brazilian may also kill a lot in EU, when killed in Summer in Brazil. High vaccine rate in UK, but still restrictions and also for so important today.Good thing I'm not scared of the vaccine-induced third testicle. Give me that 3rd shot baby. And 4th. And 5th!
Regardless, newest research still suggests that your fears of efficacy can be put on hold.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=2551957#post2551957
ExpatLover
04-18-21, 03:57
I don't think that Remdisivir can cause resisist covid because it stops replication and therefore would lessen the chance of resistance.It is not what some top medical teams are saying, just have for example a look on the publications of the IHU.
PaulInZurich
04-18-21, 07:01
Europe faced several medical scandals in the last 40 years, and trust is something that the people in responsibility have to win, it is not granted. Most of the people just want to get back the life from before, and the politicians make them thing that this will be possible if they get vaccinated and follow strictly the stupid rules of the different useless lockdown. And what if the vaccine are not efficient enough, if we need to get revaccinated every 6 months (hypothesis on the table in Israel), today he situation is worse that I ever expected, just check what was promised by the leaders 6 months back, and where we are today. There is a possibility that the life from 2019 will not come back before 10 or 20 years may be never. The situation is critical in 2 big countries Brazil and India what will happen there in the coming months will be very important for the rest of the world, many new variants can pop up and the vaccines could also face big efficiency issues to fight those variants.I actually agree with a lot of this although I am less pessimist about vaccines. Lockdown efficiency, well that can buy some time in certain locations (AUS, NZ), but globally that ship has sailed. How is it that we don't hear of outbreaks in China?
Man you paint a dark future here.
Problem is that even if deaths so far have been few, far more have shown dangerously extreme amounts of white blood cells following the vaccines. 2.8% are showing these extreme numbers. While 8%+ are showing less increases, but still some increase. Which may cause problems long term.I have not heard anything about this, the closest I've come to is that there is an elevated wbc count when fighting covid, the same as any other infection. Can you provide some credible citations for this?
ExpatLover
04-18-21, 15:57
I actually agree with a lot of this although I am less pessimist about vaccines. Lockdown efficiency, well that can buy some time in certain locations (AUS, NZ), but globally that ship has sailed. How is it that we don't hear of outbreaks in China?
Man you paint a dark future here.In China, life is back to normal since June. Everything is under control, here the vaccination is not possible if you are above 59, the contrary from the rest of the world. Free vaccination everywhere but not enough candidats, but there is no stress on it. I wrote it many times the super power today is not the US but China and they are clever enough to keep very modest.
In China, life is back to normal since June. Everything is under control, here the vaccination is not possible if you are above 59, the contrary from the rest of the world. Free vaccination everywhere but not enough candidats, but there is no stress on it. I wrote it many times the super power today is not the US but China and they are clever enough to keep very modest.China threaten to blacklist citizens and companies when not vaccined, with their low level vaccine. Is it your freedom, so many Chinese telling they are afraid of their government, like Russians about Putin. I don t always agree with Macron and previous, but when I m a real free mind, but was never scared of any president, even they were not all good. Wish for never LE Pen of course.
Good thing I'm not scared of the vaccine-induced third testicle. Give me that 3rd shot baby. And 4th. And 5th!
Regardless, newest research still suggests that your fears of efficacy can be put on hold.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=2551957#post2551957What would you think if one of your relative died after vaccine, when we have now in France, some more than 50 and also men, from after AZ. I don t like much to play probability for my life and my relatives, but I was happy for them some of my relatives who were scared of virus, not anymore going out, could get Pfizer, if can help them for a normal life again. From my 2020 way of life, I think I can live with virus, even don t know versus south African or Brazilian now in EU.
What would you think if one of your relative died after vaccine, when we have now in France, some more than 50 and also men, from after AZ. I don t like much to play probability for my life and my relatives, but I was happy for them some of my relatives who were scared of virus, not anymore going out, could get Pfizer, if can help them for a normal life again. From my 2020 way of life, I think I can live with virus, even don t know versus south African or Brazilian now in EU.I would say that I would need to see the medical history of all 50 patients, stratify them into their background mortality, and analyze the results.
Is France a Catholic country? Considering 34% not religious and 29% atheist, it seems like at least 63% of the country are not Catholic. Wonder of the 37% religious, how many are protestants, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Witchens, etc. Looks like Atheism may be the largest religion in France.
Here's a Gallop poll that puts France in the top 10 most atheist and non-religious populations. In fact, it has France listed as the 4th most atheist and 8th least religious nation in the world. It breaks down the population to 34% not religious, 29% atheist, and only 37% religious. Combine that with the Constitutional decree that France shall be secular, it seems that claiming that France is a Catholic country is a load of horse shit motivated by pure contrarianism, very consistent with the typical conspiracy theorist character. It's opposition just for the sake of opposition, facts not needed.
https://sidmennt.is/wp-content/uploads/Gallup-International-um-tr%C3%BA-og-tr%C3%BAleysi-2012.pdf
I do find it funny that Romania is 89% religious, putting it in the top 10 religious countries, LOL.
I would say that I would need to see the medical history of all 50 patients, stratify them into their background mortality, and analyze the results.For sure, if your daughter or wife died, you would for sure think with your data, about exact science for medical? With so high knowledge about this virus, when even older than 50 yo men also die now after vaccine, so I won't take risk, I feel more safe free riding or full speed in Germany, when I feel more safe in Germany than playing snail falling asleep in Switzerland.
German government is starting to treat people who don't have a negative test result like they are infectious, sick, a danger for the health care system, like they want to murder other people.
Believing everybody could be infected, but ignoring everybody could survived the infection without informing the government?
Quick look at the boring numbers. Yesterday, Germany had overall 286.500 active cases. A tiny minority of nearly 5000 are very very ill, unfortunately. Around half of these 5000 need a oxygen machine. Between 30% and 50% of the people who need a oxygen machine dying anyway. But don't tell that the God in white are trying to ride dead horses here. Artificial breathing is not the same like keeping people artificial alive. Hospitals who are working at the capacity limit, getting paid extra money by government. German hospitals are 'just in time' companies, they have no interest in building up more capacity. They are just interested in profit.
Show more solidarity with the overworked nurses, don't go to doctors!
Home office, home schooling, home prison. Where is the home hospital?
Since over a year pandemic, but German doctors are not able to optimize the treatment. 10 month for a vaccine, but still no coughing juice or pills to make the symptoms less dangerous?
The mutants are officially in Germany since two month now. Mutants don't make friends, from baby to granny. Where are the dead children? Not existing?
10 people doing 10 pcr tests, in the end one positive result, so the positive rate is 10%. Other 10 people doing 10 self or quick tests, in the end one positive result too, so here is the positive rate also 10%. All in together you have 20 tests (pcr, quick and self test) and two positive results, the positive rate is still 10%. But in Germany it's like this, everybody who has a positive self or quick test result, has to do a pcr test too, just to be sure that it is really corona. The possibility that the pcr test is also positive after the quick or self test was positive is very high. RKI is only counting the pcr tests and results, suddenly you have 11 pcr tests and two positive results, now is the positive rate is nearly 20%. The so much more infectious mutants.
Government is doing a lot to make sure that the doctors don't have to do the triage decision, they prefer to do it by themselves. Killing clubs, but letting the church open. No one who believes in God need a open church. A bit over 50% of the Germans are paying church taxes. How many of the Germans paying club taxes?
Government closes small restaurants at the corner because they are a danger for the health. But big American fast food chains are still open, because they are giving more people jobs (government need the taxes of them to offer all citizens "free tests" The tyrannic government decides all by themselves which life is more worth. Fast food chain thumbs up, restaurant thumbs down.
Good that the vaccine protects from getting very sick. But it doesn't protects from catching the virus, from getting the infection. Vaccinated people still can be infected and still can spread the virus, or don't they exhale aerosol?
In a few weeks Germany is running out of people who really want the vaccine, who really want freedom. So it was very wise of government to ban hate lines from the Internet.
But here is the good news. In Germany are enough people who want "Germany, but normal". Maybe they start to organise huge demonstrations in Duisburg Marxloh, protesting for opening the Shisha bars and redlight district. Bernie Hocke and Curio in the front row and in their back 1000 Arabien gang members.
Stay roots.
For sure, if your daughter or wife died, you would for sure think with your data, about exact science for medical?Yes, always start with population level data. Then consider individualized details, and add more relevant data. Avoid emotions when making decisions whenever possible.
In China, life is back to normal since June. Everything is under control, here the vaccination is not possible if you are above 59, the contrary from the rest of the world. Free vaccination everywhere but not enough candidats, but there is no stress on it. I wrote it many times the super power today is not the US but China and they are clever enough to keep very modest.Either China is under-reporting their infection rate, or they did a helluva good job with the bio-engineering of the virus. Not buying the efficient lockdown argument keinerlei.
Either China is under-reporting their infection rate, or they did a helluva good job with the bio-engineering of the virus. Not buying the efficient lockdown argument keinerlei.It's China. Which means they are lying again LOL!
HammerTime96
04-21-21, 13:33
Either China is under-reporting their infection rate, or they did a helluva good job with the bio-engineering of the virus. Not buying the efficient lockdown argument keinerlei.Exactly, the numbers are a total joke, just like the Chinese GDP numbers. What else can you expect from ChiCom central planners?
Either China is under-reporting their infection rate, or they did a helluva good job with the bio-engineering of the virus. Not buying the efficient lockdown argument keinerlei.People are walking around and congregating without masks all over China. Surely there must be hundreds of millions of infections and millions of deaths by now.
HammerTime96
04-21-21, 16:46
People are walking around and congregating without masks all over China. Surely there must be hundreds of millions of infections and millions of deaths by now.The same can be said about Sweden, Nicaragua, Belarus, Russia, Texas, Florida and a couple of other US states: no mass mortalities.
Gee, perhaps the "virus" isn't so deadly after all? / sarc.
From the W. H. O. (World Health Organisation) website: https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf.
On page 7:
For people < 70 years old, the infection fatality rate of COVId-19 across 40 locations with
available data ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% (median 0.05%); the corrected values were similar.This has been known for almost one year already, yet the media and politicians continue the propaganda and the fear mongering.
ExpatLover
04-21-21, 18:57
The same can be said about Sweden, Nicaragua, Belarus, Russia, Texas, Florida and a couple of other US states: no mass mortalities.
Gee, perhaps the "virus" isn't so deadly after all? / sarc.
From the W. H. O. (World Health Organisation) website: https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf.
On page 7:
This has been known for almost one year already, yet the media and politicians continue the propaganda and the fear mongering.May be you watch India Today live, to see that behind the figures, and numbers there are people who a suffering seriously in their body and others are dying. When you are saying no mass mortalities in the US, I don't know what you need.
HammerTime96
04-21-21, 19:59
May be you watch India Today live, to see that behind the figures, and numbers there are people who a suffering seriously in their body and others are dying. When you are saying no mass mortalities in the US, I don't know what you need.The absolute numbers from India sure are impressive, but let's see things in perspective;.
1) Huge poverty in India.
2) Abysmal hygiene standards in India.
3) almost 1,4 billion people live in India.
BigBuddy69
04-21-21, 21:36
Exactly, the numbers are a total joke, just like the Chinese GDP numbers. What else can you expect from ChiCom central planners?
The same can be said about Sweden, Nicaragua, Belarus, Russia, Texas, Florida and a couple of other US states: no mass mortalities.
Gee, perhaps the "virus" isn't so deadly after all? / sarc..Pure logic. First quote, you say that Chinese numbers are wrong.
Second quote, suddenly they are right and match with the numbers of Sweden, Nicaragua, Belarus, Russia, Texas, Florida.
By the way, I wouldn't trust too much Russian numbers, especially for a maccarthyst like you.
And Sweden had a +30% increase in mortality during the last weeks of December. Norway: about 0.
Watch Brazilian and Indian figures, to see how there is no mass mortality. The Brazilian weirdo in chief has some common features with you: living in denial, adverse to logic. And he hates evil commies.
ExpatLover
04-22-21, 04:11
The absolute numbers from India sure are impressive, but let's see things in perspective;.
1) Huge poverty in India.
2) Abysmal hygiene standards in India.
3) almost 1,4 billion people live in India.You are right but they were quite successful during the first wave, 65% of the population under 35, as I wrote it 2 weeks back I still believe what is happening in India and Brazil could be essential for the future of this pandemy, it seems that a double mutations has pop up in India which is challenging the efficiency of the vaccines.
Prostitutes are to no longer be arrested in Manhatten. However those who patronize prostitutes and pimps can be arrested. I suspect that the guy in charge of my escort agency and myself are still in their sights, however the girls are Scot-free. Perhaps that might result in him recruiting more girls. My main interest is the massage parlors. Can girls get together and operate a massage parlor unhindered? I would think so. Then I could start returning to them. Perhaps the fools may continue with the massage parlor sting operations. Will have to wait and see. Are the golden days of the 70's and 80's going to return? Then its bye bye FKKs.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.html
Prostitutes are to no longer be arrested in Manhatten. However those who patronize prostitutes and pimps can be arrested. I suspect that the guy in charge of my escort agency and myself are still in their sights, however the girls are Scot-free. Perhaps that might result in him recruiting more girls. My main interest is the massage parlors. Can girls get together and operate a massage parlor unhindered? I would think so. Then I could start returning to them. Perhaps the fools may continue with the massage parlor sting operations. Will have to wait and see. Are the golden days of the 70's and 80's going to return? Then its bye bye FKKs.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.htmlReturn to the 70's?
Prostitutes are to no longer be arrested in Manhatten. However those who patronize prostitutes and pimps can be arrested. I suspect that the guy in charge of my escort agency and myself are still in their sights, however the girls are Scot-free. Perhaps that might result in him recruiting more girls. My main interest is the massage parlors. Can girls get together and operate a massage parlor unhindered? I would think so. Then I could start returning to them. Perhaps the fools may continue with the massage parlor sting operations. Will have to wait and see. Are the golden days of the 70's and 80's going to return? Then its bye bye FKKs.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.htmlYou beat me to the punch! I was just about to post a message on this. The good old 70's and 80's, like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixd8Tj9a25k
Mongerer88
04-22-21, 18:59
A problem is that it has been the damn federal government that has been out to destroy escort agencies, and there is no amnesty from them. And it is also the federal government that has closed most advertising venues. The system that exists now in NYC is primarily expensive independent escorts who have their own websites with a. Ch suffix and a Twitter network. Some of them are fantastic, but they are very expensive, thanks in no small part to the barriers to entering the market established by heavy-handed federal interference in state / local jurisdictions. Manhattan wasn't prosecuting (and police weren't arresting) those independent escorts anyway. So this may be no big deal, but it will be interesting to see if it does provide an entryway for ladies into the lower price market. I doubt that the street scene will be allowed by the police or neighborhood groups, after decades of turning Times Square into Disneyworld. The possibility of more shared apartment brothels and illicit massage parlor places is indeed an interesting possibility, but the issue is where they will advertise after Fosta / Sesta (a federal law of course). With so much more restrictive zoning and nosy neighbors and #metoo feminists, I doubt we will see a return to the 1970's. But I hope I am wrong.
Prostitutes are to no longer be arrested in Manhatten. However those who patronize prostitutes and pimps can be arrested. I suspect that the guy in charge of my escort agency and myself are still in their sights, however the girls are Scot-free. Perhaps that might result in him recruiting more girls. My main interest is the massage parlors. Can girls get together and operate a massage parlor unhindered? I would think so. Then I could start returning to them. Perhaps the fools may continue with the massage parlor sting operations. Will have to wait and see. Are the golden days of the 70's and 80's going to return? Then its bye bye FKKs.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.html
Pure logic. First quote, you say that Chinese numbers are wrong.
Second quote, suddenly they are right and match with the numbers of Sweden, Nicaragua, Belarus, Russia, Texas, Florida.
By the way, I wouldn't trust too much Russian numbers, especially for a maccarthyst like you.
And Sweden had a +30% increase in mortality during the last weeks of December. Norway: about 0.
Watch Brazilian and Indian figures, to see how there is no mass mortality. The Brazilian weirdo in chief has some common features with you: living in denial, adverse to logic. And he hates evil commies.I agree that Chinese data has to be questioned. But if is he putting Russian and Nicaraguan numbers in the "trustable" category? Laughable. I believe Russian excess deaths are 4 x higher than their covid deaths. That's probably the most undercounted number in the world outside of China.
He said no mass casualties in Texas? You kidding me? Houston and El Paso had the worst numbers outside of NYC. As bad as Texas got hit, the only reason their numbers were not even worse was because outside of the 4 or 5 large cities, most of Texas is still socially spread out rural communities. Even Texas's cities are not the most densely populated. At least not compared to New England and European cities. It takes 12 hours to drive across that damn state.
Prostitutes are to no longer be arrested in Manhatten. However those who patronize prostitutes and pimps can be arrested. I suspect that the guy in charge of my escort agency and myself are still in their sights, however the girls are Scot-free. Perhaps that might result in him recruiting more girls. My main interest is the massage parlors. Can girls get together and operate a massage parlor unhindered? I would think so. Then I could start returning to them. Perhaps the fools may continue with the massage parlor sting operations. Will have to wait and see. Are the golden days of the 70's and 80's going to return? Then its bye bye FKKs.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.htmlThis sounds like the Scandinavian or Nordic model. Arrest and buyers but not the sellers. The jury is still out about whether or not it "works". If you're a politician "works" means you can tell the world you've ended prostitution in your country. But, there are differing view on it (hope the links work):
https://decriminalizesex.work/wp-content/uploads/Debunking-the-Entrapment-Model-a.k.a.-the-End-Demand-Model.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model_approach_to_prostitution
The easy answer in Manhattan to escape the Nordic model is to simply go to another borough in New York City, drive to one of the neighboring counties, or cross the river into New Jersey.
HammerTime96
04-22-21, 20:55
This sounds like the Scandinavian or Nordic model. Arrest and buyers but not the sellers.Exactly, but some of the more dumb forum contributors here can't even find Scandinavia on a map, let alone that they have any awareness of what they are getting themselves in to!
Lots of prostitutes come from ex-communist countries, so those same dumb forum contributors think that "communism= prostitutes" so they hope for communism. What they don't understand is that those girls ESCAPE those ex-communist countries to work in capitalist, rich, Western countries.
Reality is: "communism = everybody poor = no money for P6."
I've repeatedly warned that a strangling of the middle class with 'Covid1984' lockdowns will lead to communism and an EXTINCTION of the P6 scene in Germany. It's the capitalist model and a healthy dose of European liberty that made P6 and FKK clubs possible, not the "Green," "woke," socialists, and communists-in-sheeps-clothes!
Where have the biggest RLDs in Europe been located for CENTURIES? Hamburg, Antwerpen and Amsterdam! What do all those cities have in common? Big sea ports, TRADE, CAPITALISM, and NO prudish inbred Brits or hypocritical Americans! What's closing down RLDs all over Europe? "Woke" Anglo-American Cultural Marxism, American #MeToo bullshit, Anglo-American Globalism (I. E. Crony-capitalism, kleptocracy, and corporatism), and hardcore feminazis!
PaulInZurich
04-23-21, 00:27
I agree that Chinese data has to be questioned. But if is he putting Russian and Nicaraguan numbers in the "trustable" category? Laughable. I believe Russian excess deaths are 4 x higher than their covid deaths. That's probably the most undercounted number in the world outside of China.I wouldn't trust any number out of Belarus either.
ExpatLover
04-23-21, 05:16
Exactly, but some of the more dumb forum contributors here can't even find Scandinavia on a map, let alone that they have any awareness of what they are getting themselves in to!
Lots of prostitutes come from ex-communist countries, so those same dumb forum contributors think that "communism= prostitutes" so they hope for communism. What they don't understand is that those girls ESCAPE those ex-communist countries to work in capitalist, rich, Western countries.
Reality is: "communism = everybody poor = no money for P6."
I've repeatedly warned that a strangling of the middle class with 'Covid1984' lockdowns will lead to communism and an EXTINCTION of the P6 scene in Germany. It's the capitalist model and a healthy dose of European liberty that made P6 and FKK clubs possible, not the "Green," "woke," socialists, and communists-in-sheeps-clothes!
Where have the biggest RLDs in Europe been located for CENTURIES? Hamburg, Antwerpen and Amsterdam! What do all those cities have in common? Big sea ports, TRADE, CAPITALISM, and NO prudish inbred Brits or hypocritical Americans! What's closing down RLDs all over Europe? "Woke" Anglo-American Cultural Marxism, American #MeToo bullshit, Anglo-American Globalism (I. E. Crony-capitalism, kleptocracy, and corporatism), and hardcore feminazis!And than even they close all the FKK and brothels in europe it doesn't mean that there is no sex. So many women available everywhere, today we have apps to help us to meet. I don t understand where is the catastrophe.
And than even they close all the FKK and brothels in europe it doesn't mean that there is no sex. So many women available everywhere, today we have apps to help us to meet. I don t understand where is the catastrophe.I can easily understand and won't blame Germany to keep brothels closed, when they closed schools for months, when they have so many deaths, and I wonder what will do Bavarian who bought not allowed in EU sputnik and I doubt EU will allow when Navalny, and also closed some borders, so will he open risky playfield brothels attracting guys from all over the world, bringing their diseases. Patience versus real meaning of addiction which is suffering.
And than even they close all the FKK and brothels in europe it doesn't mean that there is no sex. So many women available everywhere, today we have apps to help us to meet. I don t understand where is the catastrophe.It's not just the availability of girls for many of us. It's the environment. The "scene". If I hadn't discovered places like German sauna clubs and Brazilian termas, I doubt I ever would have become a monger. The escort and street scenes would be the prime alternatives, and neither of those have ever strongly appealed to me.
It's not just the availability of girls for many of us. It's the environment. The "scene". If I hadn't discovered places like German sauna clubs and Brazilian termas, I doubt I ever would have become a monger. The escort and street scenes would be the prime alternatives, and neither of those have ever strongly appealed to me.Same. The interactive atmosphere with easy logistics is what keeps me coming back.
ExpatLover
04-23-21, 19:11
It's not just the availability of girls for many of us. It's the environment. The "scene". If I hadn't discovered places like German sauna clubs and Brazilian termas, I doubt I ever would have become a monger. The escort and street scenes would be the prime alternatives, and neither of those have ever strongly appealed to me.Why not dating a normal girl, the women like the men want to have sex.
Why not dating a normal girl, the women like the men want to have sex.A man like me enjoys asking how much, and operating in a transparent, "cash and carry" way. That's why.
Why not dating a normal girl, the women like the men want to have sex.Ahhhhh die Freude of pissing away your time chasing American civies. Brother, it would take far too long to explain why we RP guys rarely bother with that anymore. Maybe it's better if you just experience it yourself; come on over and enjoy all the pleasures still left to be had in WOKE America. And don't bother to book a round trip ticket because it's wide open borders here now and you'll never get deported. Come on Man!
ExpatLover
04-24-21, 04:27
Ahhhhh die Freude of pissing away your time chasing American civies. Brother, it would take far too long to explain why we RP guys rarely bother with that anymore. Maybe it's better if you just experience it yourself; come on over and enjoy all the pleasures still left to be had in WOKE America. And don't bother to book a round trip ticket because it's wide open borders here now and you'll never get deported. Come on Man!I spent 2 years in Syracuse 20 years back, at that time the things were not so terrible. May be the things have drastically changed, may be also mongers are used to get everything without any efforts which could lead them to be less successful in the normal life. I am in my early 60, looking younger, over 180,81 kilos, no fat, no smoking, no drinking, taking care of my appearance not so stupid, and it is still possible for me to meet women obviously not 20 YO like in the FKK, but for me at least the sex with a no pro is always far better than with a pro.
If You are not afraid to finish in jail, you can go to wellness at Zeus or enjoy beautiful garden at Freubad or pay less expensive than in Germany, only around 95 € for entry and 30 mn in bed at Cleo. Also direkt zimmer with Globe girls at History or Westside. Zeus telling girls are tested about covid. For those in hurry, I m not yet enough.
It's not just the availability of girls for many of us. It's the environment. The "scene". If I hadn't discovered places like German sauna clubs and Brazilian termas, I doubt I ever would have become a monger. The escort and street scenes would be the prime alternatives, and neither of those have ever strongly appealed to me.I don't miss most of brothels atmosphere and guys there, when I only enjoy beautiful garden they made at Sharks with beautiful trees, or Oase garden to play football, World still being the best garden, when best point of view is at Wellcum on superb Carinthian mountains, Freubad being the only beautiful garden in Switzerland. Harmony South Hamburg on the little river is also very beautiful. I must have been made for beauty and only reason for me to go is hope to find a beauty to enjoy, nothing else worthing for me there and if she moved to escorting, then I would follow her and wouldn't care about brothels where I mostly see so low level. Some of my regulars understood I m not in my place in brothels, when I look and pay for dream. When I don't dream anymore, I don t pay just for sex which is not enough for my pleasure. I'm always disappointed when I don t dream.
It's not just the availability of girls for many of us. It's the environment. The "scene". If I hadn't discovered places like German sauna clubs and Brazilian termas, I doubt I ever would have become a monger. The escort and street scenes would be the prime alternatives, and neither of those have ever strongly appealed to me.I must admit I am the same regards Germany, it's the whole scene and atmosphere that attracts me to the German clubs. If it wasn't I wouldn't bother flying over from the UK albeit it's only an hours flight.
My punting in my own country is rare so the closure of these clubs has affected me a lot as I usually make 6-8 visits a year.
Unfortunately my wait continues and at best it's not going to be until the autumn until things are more stable for a reopening consideration. Unless of course Germany's vaccination programme is considerably ramped up in numbers.
Also note that they kinda stop counting these side effects after just a few weeks. But for all we know, they may also pop up at a later date. So these are minimum numbers of side effects. Quite extreme if you ask me!
ExpatLover
04-24-21, 12:17
I don't miss most of brothels atmosphere and guys there, when I only enjoy beautiful garden they made at Sharks with beautiful trees, or Oase garden to play football, World still being the best garden, when best point of view is at Wellcum on superb Carinthian mountains, Freubad being the only beautiful garden in Switzerland. Harmony South Hamburg on the little river is also very beautiful. I must have been made for beauty and only reason for me to go is hope to find a beauty to enjoy, nothing else worthing for me there and if she moved to escorting, then I would follow her and wouldn't care about brothels where I mostly see so low level. Some of my regulars understood I m not in my place in brothels, when I look and pay for dream. When I don't dream anymore, I don t pay just for sex which is not enough for my pleasure. I'm always disappointed when I don t dream.I know nothing about Switzerland, but I agree with you World is the best outdoor FKK in Germany, but in the last years so hard to find young and fresh natural beauties there, also under the sunshine the girls are looking far less attractive, so many skin problems.
PaulInZurich
04-24-21, 13:40
It's not just the availability of girls for many of us. It's the environment. The "scene". If I hadn't discovered places like German sauna clubs and Brazilian termas, I doubt I ever would have become a monger. The escort and street scenes would be the prime alternatives, and neither of those have ever strongly appealed to me.Same for me. I don't think I would have started mongering without FKKs. When I went the first time it took me a long time to decide to go, a buddy planted the idea in my head. Luckily the girls were not aggressive at all, because it took me a long time to be ready.
I don't miss most of brothels atmosphere and guys there, when I only enjoy beautiful garden they made at Sharks with beautiful trees, or Oase garden to play football, World still being the best garden, when best point of view is at Wellcum on superb Carinthian mountains, Freubad being the only beautiful garden in Switzerland. Harmony South Hamburg on the little river is also very beautiful. I must have been made for beauty and only reason for me to go is hope to find a beauty to enjoy, nothing else worthing for me there and if she moved to escorting, then I would follow her and wouldn't care about brothels where I mostly see so low level. Some of my regulars understood I m not in my place in brothels, when I look and pay for dream. When I don't dream anymore, I don t pay just for sex which is not enough for my pleasure. I'm always disappointed when I don t dream.We know. You don't just pay for sex. You pay for dreams and beauty. Well dream on buddy. I don't pay just for the sex either. I like the extra trappings that come with FKK club admission as well. I don't consider the clubs to be "mere brothels". No, that's where they parade a line-up out, and you're just supposed to pick. I really don't like those either. German FKKs and Brazilian termas and clubs (like Scandallo which is the baddest puta palace on the planet!) are a better experience than that. Much, much better!
I don't miss most of brothels atmosphere and guys there, when I only enjoy beautiful garden they made at Sharks with beautiful trees, or Oase garden to play football, World still being the best garden, when best point of view is at Wellcum on superb Carinthian mountains, Freubad being the only beautiful garden in Switzerland. Harmony South Hamburg on the little river is also very beautiful. I must have been made for beauty and only reason for me to go is hope to find a beauty to enjoy, nothing else worthing for me there and if she moved to escorting, then I would follow her and wouldn't care about brothels where I mostly see so low level. Some of my regulars understood I m not in my place in brothels, when I look and pay for dream. When I don't dream anymore, I don t pay just for sex which is not enough for my pleasure. I'm always disappointed when I don t dream.Those are not real gardens, I would call them large backyards. If your ideal is fucking beautiful girls in nice gardens, you could take GF or rent a WG to a nice, secluded and wooded area and fuck. Yes, fucking in FKKs with a nice garden with some lawns and plants and a pool with breeze feels nice but you are not still getting away from the brothel atmosphere and milieu. You know where you picked her up, you know there is a payment, you know she goes back into the smoky lounge and will be fucking another dude in an hour.
Reality is: "communism = everybody poor = no money for P6."
True as long as AI and the automation variable in the economy is low. But probably not so once AI and automation takes off.
, may be also mongers are used to get everything without any efforts which could lead them to be less successful in the normal life. I am in my early 60, looking younger, over 180,81 kilos, no fat, no smoking, no drinking, taking care of my appearance not so stupid, and it is still possible for me to meet women obviously not 20 YO like in the FKK, but for me at least the sex with a no pro is always far better than with a pro.Hell my game got way better after visiting FKKs. In my mind, talking to hot women became just like talking to any average girl. The nervousness was gone and now I just joke with them like I would a 5. Same lame jokes, just delivered with more confidence. Women can smell it.
Right now we are at perhaps slightly over 30% automated (us figures last year) according to wef. Due to covid, this is expected to increase to 50% by 2025. And probably to 65-70% by the end of the decade. At least double the rate compared to no covid.
Now the same wef report suggested even more new jobs will be created, than jobs lost. But this is counter to a report made by pwc, suggesting jobs monitoring the AI and the robots are among the first ones to go away at around 2025.
Maybe 10-20% new jobs will be created compared to jobs lost. So to avoid unemployment en masse, work hours must be cut in half by the end of the decade. That way, two people will share the job one had in the past. And ubi will make up for the income loss due to fewer working hours.
It is not communism. It's a hybrid I suppose.
But throughout the 2030's, it might turn into some form of Marxism.
Those are not real gardens, I would call them large backyards. If your ideal is fucking beautiful girls in nice gardens, you could take GF or rent a WG to a nice, secluded and wooded area and fuck. Yes, fucking in FKKs with a nice garden with some lawns and plants and a pool with breeze feels nice but you are not still getting away from the brothel atmosphere and milieu. You know where you picked her up, you know there is a payment, you know she goes back into the smoky lounge and will be fucking another dude in an hour.Oase is certainly a mere large backyard although they have space if they built it up a little.
Sharks suffers from being surrounded by an industrial area so that makes it hard to feel truly outdoors.
World and Yin Yang however have large estates with wooded walking areas and outdoor cabanas that are spread apart.
GoldenTime makes a case. The lawn is huge and there are walking paths with trees and some running water features.
BigBuddy69
04-25-21, 06:13
Also note that they kinda stop counting these side effects after just a few weeks. But for all we know, they may also pop up at a later date. So these are minimum numbers of side effects. Quite extreme if you ask me!Once again this is false.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/post-authorisation/pharmacovigilance/medicines-under-additional-monitoring/list-medicines-under-additional-monitoring
Where are my screenshots? One month.
No 'screenshot chapter' in your IT course?
I know nothing about Switzerland, but I agree with you World is the best outdoor FKK in Germany, but in the last years so hard to find young and fresh natural beauties there, also under the sunshine the girls are looking far less attractive, so many skin problems.At Freubad between Bern and Solothurn, garden with quite large swimming pool, also inside swimming pool and jacuzzi, small waterfall with few fishes, can eat in the garden, just relaxing, what I look for when visiting a club: to find a beauty to make me dream and to relax, when inside of brothels showing fuck factory and usually playing bad music don t relax me at all.
World is still the most beautiful garden I know in FKK land, better view at Wellcum but garden can t compete. Unfortunately World casting really fell when slow business there in the middle of nowhere, when Sharks grew up and became number 1 in Frankfurt and around.
For sure, when You look at most of girls skin quality under sunlight, this don t help them, and same when they walk bare feet like little duck in garden, but on so many weeks for many months, I enjoyed to contemplate Megan real skin quality and her blond body hair in sunlight, she was a real beauty before turning blond at Sharks. Not same fresh beauty now at Globe.
Those are not real gardens, I would call them large backyards. If your ideal is fucking beautiful girls in nice gardens, you could take GF or rent a WG to a nice, secluded and wooded area and fuck. Yes, fucking in FKKs with a nice garden with some lawns and plants and a pool with breeze feels nice but you are not still getting away from the brothel atmosphere and milieu. You know where you picked her up, you know there is a payment, you know she goes back into the smoky lounge and will be fucking another dude in an hour.For sure they are not Versailles, but if you ever visited, World have a natural garden with big trees, Vertigo also. Maybe from my job, but I appreciate good job they made at Sharks with beautiful trees and I don t know any other club which was so much improved than Sharks. Unfortunately, when they really improved the club, but casting fell since end of 2016/2017. I relax more outside, even more difficult for girls looks under sun than in the dark, than in fuck factory inside and most often bad music hurting my ears. Sometimes, I could think to try some girls, but when seeing them working for fuck factory, I have no desire for such images and prefer to leave with heavy full balls. I feel better in more chic like Amesia where girls look more like normal women, than mostly prostitutes at job in most of brothels. Bad, Amesia increased rates for girls, but fortunately when working fine, girls and desk are quite flexible for time and I like this, even I miss good foods before.
We know. You don't just pay for sex. You pay for dreams and beauty. Well dream on buddy. I don't pay just for the sex either. I like the extra trappings that come with FKK club admission as well. I don't consider the clubs to be "mere brothels". No, that's where they parade a line-up out, and you're just supposed to pick. I really don't like those either. German FKKs and Brazilian termas and clubs (like Scandallo which is the baddest puta palace on the planet!) are a better experience than that. Much, much better!Yes, you can eat, drink, go to wellness, take sun or look at clouds in the sky in some gardens, but most are real fuck factory brothels in the lounge. Have You ever visited Bruggen? Just amazing. When some write about me here, but many there jumping on girls just returning from sex, not even waiting they were paid by previous client, not washed yet, just like animals. I missed few there, because I would have never dare to behave with such lack of respect. I left so many times Globe, desk asking me why? Maybe I m the record guy there, or Sharks with more than 200 girls, or famous GT Bruggen, with full heavy balls, when I have no pleasure to pay just to empty balls and I hate girls I don t find attractive, touching me, when many try to touch my hair or face in lounge. Only girls who make me dream worth to pay for me and when no more dream, then I stopped with my best ever girl in brothels. On end of July 2014, I visited World, then Oase, then Sharks on a Saturday, castings were higher level at that time, but unlucky day for me and could find any girl for my dreams. Fortunately, enjoyed Barbie Ingrid discovery on Sunday at Sharks. I won't go to Brazil for Latinas and don t know when Germany will reopen, when I don t even rush to Switzerland where 7 clubs are now open and 2 targets at Zeus and Cleo, but no hurry, only looking forward my real sports, Swiss jails can wait when I won t pay.
ExpatLover
04-25-21, 17:19
Yes, you can eat, drink, go to wellness, take sun or look at clouds in the sky in some gardens, but most are real fuck factory brothels in the lounge. Have You ever visited Bruggen? Just amazing. When some write about me here, but many there jumping on girls just returning from sex, not even waiting they were paid by previous client, not washed yet, just like animals. I missed few there, because I would have never dare to behave with such lack of respect. I left so many times Globe, desk asking me why? Maybe I m the record guy there, or Sharks with more than 200 girls, or famous GT Bruggen, with full heavy balls, when I have no pleasure to pay just to empty balls and I hate girls I don t find attractive, touching me, when many try to touch my hair or face in lounge. Only girls who make me dream worth to pay for me and when no more dream, then I stopped with my best ever girl in brothels. On end of July 2014, I visited World, then Oase, then Sharks on a Saturday, castings were higher level at that time, but unlucky day for me and could find any girl for my dreams. Fortunately, enjoyed Barbie Ingrid discovery on Sunday at Sharks. I won't go to Brazil for Latinas and don t know when Germany will reopen, when I don t even rush to Switzerland where 7 clubs are now open and 2 targets at Zeus and Cleo, but no hurry, only looking forward my real sports, Swiss jails can wait when I won t pay.Sorry I went 5 times to GT, 1 room and that is all, never returned since mid 2017. Shark and Oase are also a fuck factory specially on week end. I am not waiting the reopening of the FKK, I found very good alternatives and probably will not return before end of 2022 or may be never and you know what " I miss nothing, much more happier without."
Sorry I went 5 times to GT, 1 room and that is all, never returned since mid 2017. Shark and Oase are also a fuck factory specially on week end. I am not waiting the reopening of the FKK, I found very good alternatives and probably will not return before end of 2022 or may be never and you know what " I miss nothing, much more happier without."Bad luck you missed Kate arriving from Velbert. You should read those here from other continents, who seem to really miss, when I m surprised they don't find in much closer Canada or Mexico or Puerto Rico. Also escorts in UK. Unfortunately, escorts level really fell now in Paris where so many fake photos and no more good agencies we had few years ago like legendary Amour Russe. I remember my 14 bookings for their Russian beauties on July 2014, only on week days, when I spent my week ends at World or Oase or Sharks. Now, I'm just patient, like when wishing to succeed to find a beauty for my standards, because can t do more about reopening, and nothing compare to ski I miss so much, even planning to go for Summer ski as soon they will open, to clean and prepare my lungs, like I did on last Summer on my numerous climbings.
If You are not afraid to finish in jail, you can go to wellness at Zeus or enjoy beautiful garden at Freubad or pay less expensive than in Germany, only around 95 for entry and 30 mn in bed at Cleo. Also direkt zimmer with Globe girls at History or Westside. Zeus telling girls are tested about covid. For those in hurry, I'm not yet enough.I found the Cleo website and it seems like a really good deal of 99 euros for 30 minute service plus free entry. But it indicates that one must enter from 11 am through 1 pm But then how much is it for additional 30 minute zimmers?
I found the Cleo website and it seems like a really good deal of 99 euros for 30 minute service plus free entry. But it indicates that one must enter from 11 am through 1 pm But then how much is it for additional 30 minute zimmers?99 is for entry, drinks, foods, wellness and 30 mn in bed, when entering before 1 pm. 120/30 for more. 129 at Zeus before 11 am, same than brother Cleo for after. Some girls who worked in Germany.
HammerTime96
05-03-21, 08:42
Hell my game got way better after visiting FKKs. In my mind, talking to hot women became just like talking to any average girl. The nervousness was gone and now I just joke with them like I would a 5. Same lame jokes, just delivered with more confidence. Women can smell it.Sure, bursting with "confidence. " Hahahaha! That's why you spend the whole day F5-ing and writing 5-10 posts every day on a hooker platform, advocating the CCP Fascist Agenda of lockdowns, face masks and vaccines, pretending to be a mix of George Clooney and a 'millionaire' Chinese migrant who has a PhD in virology. LOL!
I think the rest of us can smell the same delusion and desperation on you as with the dyslectic mountain-climbing Frenchman. It's called 'little-dick-syndrome. '
P.S. Pro-tip: try funny jokes instead of lame jokes!
PinballMachine
05-03-21, 15:04
Switzerland where 7 clubs are now open and 2 targets at Zeus and Cleo, but no hurry, only looking forward my real sports, Swiss jails can wait when I won t pay.What 7 clubs?
What 7 clubs?Globe brothers: History and Westside with some Globe girls, but more expensive rate now than usual. BTICI clubs: under discount Cleo and Zeus, I think also Aphrodite close to Montreux and Olymp. Sexpark Argau. Maybe other clubs in Basel and most beautiful Swiss club Freubad. I would say around 10 clubs, Cleo being less expensive than Germany. Not so bad to empty balls. I m pretty sure Austria should open for beginning of July, like on last Summer. Maybe 6 ens NL when less restrictions now in NL.
Globe brothers: History and Westside with some Globe girls, but more expensive rate now than usual. BTICI clubs: under discount Cleo and Zeus, I think also Aphrodite close to Montreux and Olymp. Sexpark Argau. Maybe other clubs in Basel and most beautiful Swiss club Freubad. I would say around 10 clubs, Cleo being less expensive than Germany. Not so bad to empty balls. I m pretty sure Austria should open for beginning of July, like on last Summer. Maybe 6 ens NL when less restrictions now in NL.I guess I'm being optimistic here, but has there been any updates at all regarding YinYang the past year?
I guess I'm being optimistic here, but has there been any updates at all regarding YinYang the past year?YY is closed because of Roermond female mayor, nothing about covid. 6 ens reopened on last Summer. I m afraid it will be complicated for high level YY, real miss. I m more optimistic for Wellcum on this Summer, like on previous, when Andiamo didn't reopen. Marina is also missing.
YY is closed because of Roermond female mayor, nothing about covid. 6 ens reopened on last Summer. I m afraid it will be complicated for high level YY, real miss. I m more optimistic for Wellcum on this Summer, like on previous, when Andiamo didn't reopen. Marina is also missing.I know it is about the Christian partys jealous fat old woman in Roermond. But I read something about a court case in relation to that. Also Marina made a court case in regards to the police using illegal methods. And the Marina owner had ties to government ministers it was claimed. But I don't know the progress of any of them.
Also, how is the stance of the German green party in relation to p6 now ahead of the election?
I know it is about the Christian partys jealous fat old woman in Roermond. But I read something about a court case in relation to that. Also Marina made a court case in regards to the police using illegal methods. And the Marina owner had ties to government ministers it was claimed. But I don't know the progress of any of them.
Also, how is the stance of the German green party in relation to p6 now ahead of the election?I didn't know Roermond female mayor was fat and old but she doesn't like YY. German administration also don t like LR. I wonder if Bavaria chief would much support brothels?
Also, how is the stance of the German green party in relation to p6 now ahead of the election?I may be wrong here and I ask the Germany-based mongers to correct me, but I believe the German Green Party are in favour of legal prostitution. A few years ago they even proposed that people with certain health issues should be able to claim sex with prostitutes as a medical expense: https://www.dw.com/en/german-greens-pitch-prescriptions-for-sex/a-37054489.
I may be wrong here and I ask the Germany-based mongers to correct me, but I believe the German Green Party are in favour of legal prostitution. A few years ago they even proposed that people with certain health issues should be able to claim sex with prostitutes as a medical expense: https://www.dw.com/en/german-greens-pitch-prescriptions-for-sex/a-37054489.Now that is my kind of party. There is a Green party in the US from my recollection. I must check them out.
I may be wrong here and I ask the Germany-based mongers to correct me, but I believe the German Green Party are in favour of legal prostitution. A few years ago they even proposed that people with certain health issues should be able to claim sex with prostitutes as a medical expense: https://www.dw.com/en/german-greens-pitch-prescriptions-for-sex/a-37054489.That is correct. I think the leader of biggest sex workers union or lobbyist group in Germany is a member of the Greens IIRC. No mention of prostitution ban in Greens agenda. Prostitution isn't an important topic for the next government anyways.
That is correct. I think the leader of biggest sex workers union or lobbyist group in Germany is a member of the Greens IIRC. No mention of prostitution ban in Greens agenda. Prostitution isn't an important topic for the next government anyways.Homie, reality check is needed.
Neon green Nazis mention nothing concrete in their agenda. Just power addicted, say nothing to say nothing wrong. This is also the clique who want strictest corona laws, that means as long as the numbers are too high, it is unfortunately not possible to open clubs, just to dangerous for the health care system, you know. They are also pushing over and over again the digital tracing, just for the protection! Too high numbers, means for them everything over zero and zero infections are not possible as long as you have your thung deep in the ass of the Testindustry.
Neon green politicians and their voters are usually rich people, eating this biological clean food, wearing fair trade clothes, washing hands 24/7 and driving electric cars, but still blowing the most cee ohh two into the atmosphere. All this green deal sh*t is just another capitalistic business model.
Just take five minutes, research for Luise Neubauer and Carla Reemtsma. But don't hate too much. These are rich Nazi children, neon green terrorist, with too much time, want to dictate the life of ordinary people. But they have very honourable reasons, they just want to rescue the whole planet. Awesome.
It doesn't matter what you vote in Germany, in the end you vote a capitalistic Fascho System. These Neon green Nazis are advertising sluts for the pharmaceutical industry, nothing else.
In 2018 I was in Artemis for the birthday party. During the night I often saw these weird guests, men and women in normal street wear. Later I found out that at least one of them was a local Berlin green politician ("Baustadtrat" or something). These motherfuckers made evil evil comments about all the other guests. Real line.
Why should anybody aloud legal mass prostitution, without having the total control? The most important thing nowadays is protection of the health. The german folk body need to stay healthy! Thats why "normal thinking brains" have to put health over freedom. In Germany it's also not possible to win elections without the votes of the older generation. Thanks to German propaganda TV, the majority of the older people suffering from irrational fears of a little virus. These people want a maximum of protection, you can't open these dark, dirty clubs where people letting the sow out, sharing all sorts of viruses. It's just too DANGEROUS for the Wohnmichel!
I am not able to see the eyes of Annalena Bitchbock while she smiles, alert! Just take your media consultant husband, your capitalistic children and your bubble butt back to Hannover, whole PDM city is not in love. Expect the buttlickers.
But here is the good news, if you criticize the pimps, they burn your post, if you criticize the government, they burn your post. So guess who is the biggest pimp in Germany? Jajajajaja (how my friends from China would say) it is the motherfucking government. So just say 'yes' to the next GROKO, black and green, and we will teach you what it means to be clean!
So everyone should look forward to visit these hygienically clean, totally controlled state clubs. WTF!
15 months of pandemic show in Germany. Over 83,1 million people survived, easily. Never more than 0. 3 % of the citizens counted as active cases. Only 86.160 people died so far, with or because of the virus, on average old enough to die. In the last seven days Germany had only 0. 08 positive PCR tests per 100 citizens. So you need to meet over 1000 people to find someone who is maybe infectious, statistically.
Infected people usually have no or mild symptoms, they are sitting in Homequarantine, only a tiny minority is very sick. But why happen every day "new infections" if the infected people are isolated? Because there's every day a dark figure out there, like there is every day a dark figure of recovered persons.
Just go to a doctor and tell him you have a headache, pain in the back and you lost the ability to taste the difference between tea and tea with sugar. Diagnosis, Long Covid! All these people have luxury problems.
Imagine Germany with only one new infection per day. How are the health care authorities able to guarantee that this one person is telling the truth about all their contacts? It is not possible. Expect you observe every citizens 24/7. Welcome police state.
All the corona laws, rules and measures are political decisions, not much to do with health. That's why vaccine or no vaccine is a political decision. Everybody who is doing the vaccine without having a high risk, is just another cowardly fascist.
Everyone should ask himself why the Fascho government isn't trusting their own "independent" scientists. Vaccinated people are the only people in the world who are not a danger for other people. Really, you will never ever find a vaccinated person in a criminal statistic.
Or is here anybody who believes that the Hamas is vaccinated? Is here anybody who believes that the Israeli soldiers who are murdering children in Gaza are vaccinated? However.
Vaccinate the club operators and the staff and then open the sex clubs, now! Of course only for the vaccinated guests.
Tested, vaccinated or dangerously sick. Your choice.
I am an Egoist, I I I want to read reports of the vaccinated mongers. So happy about the new world clubs, everything so safe, only normal order vaccinated people, only healthy guests who don't smoke, meat free food, no more loud awful Roma music, falling prices for illegal BBBJ and every hooker is kissing the deepest.
Pfizer is making the happiest life! But don't use a petrol car driving every six months to vaccine centre!
War wasn't the choice of the people.
Homie, reality check is needed.
Neon green Nazis mention nothing concrete in their agenda. Just power addicted, say nothing to say nothing wrong. This is also the clique who want strictest corona laws, that means as long as the numbers are too high, it is unfortunately not possible to open clubs, just to dangerous for the health care system, you know. They are also pushing over and over again the digital tracing, just for the protection! Too high numbers, means for them everything over zero and zero infections are not possible as long as you have your thung deep in the ass of the Testindustry.
Neon green politicians and their voters are usually rich people, eating this biological clean food, wearing fair trade clothes, washing hands 24/7 and driving electric cars, but still blowing the most cee ohh two into the atmosphere. All this green deal sh*t is just another capitalistic business model.
Just take five minutes, research for Luise Neubauer and Carla Reemtsma. But don't hate too much. These are rich Nazi children, neon green terrorist, with too much time, want to dictate the life of ordinary people. But they have very honourable reasons, they just want to rescue the whole planet. Awesome...86 000 deaths are a lot for me, and would have been much more, without lockdown. Brothels are risky playfield for spreading and I don't see only healthy looks in brothels.
Berlin opens beer gardens.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/health-minister-urges-caution-berlin-095926068.html
Berlin opens beer gardens.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/health-minister-urges-caution-berlin-095926068.htmlAnd the March continues.
Tvataham274
05-22-21, 23:48
Hey, well it is like a few months I've been lurking and I only just realized I can reply to the posts without premium. Golf clap for me.
I'm planning on going to Germany when it opens (as soon as possibly, honestly). Aiming for Frankfurt, but I have a couple of questions regarding logistics.
Namely, how easy is it to get around via taxi? Is there a preferred phone app (like Uber or Lyft) to call a ride? Without a taxi I would only be able to get to Mainhatten and Palace. I'm not opposed to only visiting two clubs, but variety is the spice of life and whatnot.
I only have a very rudimentary understanding of German. Would this be fine to get around as a tourist?
How would cell phones and mobile data work? I visited the DR this year and despite the fact I bought roaming, I wasn't able to use my phone because my carrier was stupid. I had to buy a local sim.
Do the airports have a kiosk where I can buy a local sim for txt and data? Or would I need to elsewhere to buy a local sim?
I understand that in Germany, cash is king. Not counting the club and girl fees, about how much do you think you would spend on everything else?
Hey, well it is like a few months I've been lurking and I only just realized I can reply to the posts without premium. Golf clap for me.
I'm planning on going to Germany when it opens (as soon as possibly, honestly). Aiming for Frankfurt, but I have a couple of questions regarding logistics.
Namely, how easy is it to get around via taxi? Is there a preferred phone app (like Uber or Lyft) to call a ride? Without a taxi I would only be able to get to Mainhatten and Palace. I'm not opposed to only visiting two clubs, but variety is the spice of life and whatnot.
I only have a very rudimentary understanding of German. Would this be fine to get around as a tourist?
How would cell phones and mobile data work? I visited the DR this year and despite the fact I bought roaming, I wasn't able to use my phone because my carrier was stupid. I had to buy a local sim.
Do the airports have a kiosk where I can buy a local sim for txt and data? Or would I need to elsewhere to buy a local sim?
I understand that in Germany, cash is king. Not counting the club and girl fees, about how much do you think you would spend on everything else?Managing in English and with credit card, only cash for paid sex, is all what you need, when Germany will allow, when they just put under 15 days quarantine all UK, even vaccined or with negative test made on arrival, ranking UK as risky mutants area.
Namely, how easy is it to get around via taxi? Is there a preferred phone app (like Uber or Lyft) to call a ride? Without a taxi I would only be able to get to Mainhatten and Palace. I'm not opposed to only visiting two clubs, but variety is the spice of life and whatnot.
I think Uber is not allowed to operate in Germany, but you can use Freenow app https://free-now.com/.
I only have a very rudimentary understanding of German. Would this be fine to get around as a tourist?Not a problem, learn a few words and you will also find that a lot of Germans and working girls can speak English.
How would cell phones and mobile data work? I visited the DR this year and despite the fact I bought roaming, I wasn't able to use my phone because my carrier was stupid. I had to buy a local sim.It may be that you need to talk to your provider to enable international roaming.
Do the airports have a kiosk where I can buy a local sim for txt and data? Or would I need to elsewhere to buy a local sim?To get a local sim, you are required to show ID and proof of a German address, I discovered that they will not accept a hotel address.
HammerTime96
05-23-21, 17:01
Homie, reality check is needed.
Neon green Nazis mention nothing concrete in their agenda. Just power addicted, say nothing to say nothing wrong. This is also the clique who want strictest corona laws, that means as long as the numbers are too high, it is unfortunately not possible to open clubs, just to dangerous for the health care system, you know. They are also pushing over and over again the digital tracing, just for the protection! Too high numbers, means for them everything over zero and zero infections are not possible as long as you have your thung deep in the ass of the Testindustry.
Neon green politicians and their voters are usually rich people, eating this biological clean food, wearing fair trade clothes, washing hands 24/7 and driving electric cars, but still blowing the most cee ohh two into the atmosphere. All this green deal sh*t is just another capitalistic business model.
Just take five minutes, research for Luise Neubauer and Carla Reemtsma. But don't hate too much. These are rich Nazi children, neon green terrorist, with too much time, want to dictate the life of ordinary people. But they have very honourable reasons, they just want to rescue the whole planet. Awesome.
It doesn't matter what you vote in Germany, in the end you vote a capitalistic Fascho System. These Neon green Nazis are advertising sluts for the pharmaceutical industry, nothing else.
In 2018 I was in Artemis for the birthday party. During the night I often saw these weird guests, men and women in normal street wear. Later I found out that at least one of them was a local Berlin green politician ("Baustadtrat" or something). These motherfuckers made evil evil comments about all the other guests. Real line.
Why should anybody aloud legal mass prostitution, without having the total control? The most important thing nowadays is protection of the health. The german folk body need to stay healthy! Thats why "normal thinking brains" have to put health over freedom. In Germany it's also not possible to win elections without the votes of the older generation. Thanks to German propaganda TV, the majority of the older people suffering from irrational fears of a little virus. These people want a maximum of protection, you can't open these dark, dirty clubs where people letting the sow out, sharing all sorts of viruses. It's just too DANGEROUS for the Wohnmichel!
I am not able to see the eyes of Annalena Bitchbock while she smiles, alert! Just take your media consultant husband, your capitalistic children and your bubble butt back to Hannover, whole PDM city is not in love. Expect the buttlickers.
But here is the good news, if you criticize the pimps, they burn your post, if you criticize the government, they burn your post. So guess who is the biggest pimp in Germany? Jajajajaja (how my friends from China would say) it is the motherfucking government. So just say 'yes' to the next GROKO, black and green, and we will teach you what it means to be clean!
So everyone should look forward to visit these hygienically clean, totally controlled state clubs. WTF!
15 months of pandemic show in Germany. Over 83,1 million people survived, easily. Never more than 0. 3 % of the citizens counted as active cases. Only 86.160 people died so far, with or because of the virus, on average old enough to die. In the last seven days Germany had only 0. 08 positive PCR tests per 100 citizens. So you need to meet over 1000 people to find someone who is maybe infectious, statistically.
Infected people usually have no or mild symptoms, they are sitting in Homequarantine, only a tiny minority is very sick. But why happen every day "new infections" if the infected people are isolated? Because there's every day a dark figure out there, like there is every day a dark figure of recovered persons.
Just go to a doctor and tell him you have a headache, pain in the back and you lost the ability to taste the difference between tea and tea with sugar. Diagnosis, Long Covid! All these people have luxury problems.
Hahaha, funny post, and don't forget that American Windowzzz Fascist and Epstein's Pedo-Buga-Bunga-Party-Buddy, Bill Gates.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His PastThe ordinary Proletariate has to show "solidarity" ("we're all in this together") and get locked up into their houses, businesses driven into bankruptcy, and everybody vaccinated with an experimental mRNA vaccine, but the VaccineMafia themselves isn't so much into 'solidarity' when it comes to sharing the loot!
Imagine the VaccineMafia having to SHARE their patents and knowledge for free to "save" the planet of this "deadly" disease?
Krystal Ball Bill Gates is lying to you about vaccine patent protectionhttps://youtu.be/kZ5DavuOkcM
https://youtu.be/b02N2-DWKk0
Is it really about "saving" the planet of a "deadly" disease, or is it all about making a TON of money and removing all civil liberties? / sarc.
And NO, it won't end with this simple vaccination. Once the 'summer playtime' and the German election are over, get ready for more lockdowns "due to mutations," "booster vaccines" and covid tracking apps.
Even IF FKK clubs were open right now (they are not of course), then UK mongers would be out of luck, as Germany has closed it's borders for UK residents (vaccinated or not!) due to the "Indian strain:" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/22/germany-to-bar-visitors-from-uk-over-covid-variants-of-concern.
As of midnight on 23 May, people travelling to Germany from Great Britain and Northern Ireland may only enter the country if they are a German citizen or resident.
Tvataham274
05-23-21, 17:46
To get a local sim, you are required to show ID and proof of a German address, I discovered that they will not accept a hotel address.Well dang. I'm not opposed to paying for roaming, just that my carrier (mint) royally screwed me in DR. I had signal, text and voice, but no data. Kind of important when I was relying on google voice translation. Guess I'll give them a call before I go to Germany to make sure.
ExpatLover
05-23-21, 18:54
To get a local sim, you are required to show ID and proof of a German address, I discovered that they will not accept a hotel address.
In the fight against Islamic terror attacks in Europe to get in SIm card is more and more difficult, mostly impossible in countries like Poland, Hungary, Slovenia (without a resident permit). Sometimes possible in Germany by some under the desk pre registered SIM sold by shops in the Frankfurt bahnhof district.
To get a local sim, you are required to show ID and proof of a German address, I discovered that they will not accept a hotel address.
In the fight against Islamic terror attacks in Europe to get in SIm card is more and more difficult, mostly impossible in countries like Poland, Hungary, Slovenia (without a resident permit). Sometimes possible in Germany by some under the desk pre registered SIM sold by shops in the Frankfurt bahnhof district.I've been going to Germany for many years and have never been turned down from getting a sim card showing my passport and giving hotel address. I have bought sim cards in malls, HBF and elsewhere.
ExpatLover
05-24-21, 07:06
I've been going to Germany for many years and have never been turned down from getting a sim card showing my passport and giving hotel address. I have bought sim cards in malls, HBF and elsewhere.Have you done in 2019?
I've been going to Germany for many years and have never been turned down from getting a sim card showing my passport and giving hotel address. I have bought sim cards in malls, HBF and elsewhere.Got a 20 e sim card from Aldi myself before. No problems.
Have you done in 2019?Definitely did. At Vodafone Zeil.
Christian G
05-30-21, 19:50
https://www.niedersachsen.de/download/169252
"The regulation regulates the entry into force and expiry of the regulation. The regulation enables the timely revision of a standard regulation for the period of validity of the Lower Saxony Corona Regulation, which is limited to May 30,2021. The ordinance comes into force on May 31,2021. The expiry is regulated for the end of June 24,2021.
The operation of prostitution facilities according to Section 2, Paragraph 3, No. 1 of the Prostitute Protection Act (ProstSchG) and prostitution vehicles according to Section 2, Section 3, No. 2 of the ProstSchG is prohibited. 2 In addition to sentence 1, the implementation and attendance of prostitution events according to Section 2 (3) number 3 ProstSchG, the provision and use of sexual services within the meaning of Section 2 (1) ProstSchG including the implementation of prostitution mediation according to Section 2 (3) No. 4 ProstSchG, performing erotic massages in a prostitution facility or a prostitution vehicle within the meaning of sentence 1 and street prostitution are prohibited ".
Christian G
05-30-21, 21:13
https://www.schleswig-holstein.de/DE/Schwerpunkte/Coronavirus/Erlasse/2021/210529_Corona-BekaempfungsVO.html#docfa368860-019 d-4291-b8 ae-5 fd60 dbf073 cbodyText15.
Google translate:
For the operation of a prostitution facility within the meaning of Section 2 Paragraph 3 Number 1 of the Prostitute Protection Act (ProstSchG) of October 21,2016 (Federal Law Gazette I p. 2372), last amended by Article 5 Paragraph 1 of the Act of March 9, 2021 (Federal Law Gazette. I p. 327), a prostitution agency within the meaning of Section 2 (3) number 4 ProstSchG and the provision of sexual services with physical contact within the meaning of Section 2 (1) ProstSchG, the following requirements and restrictions apply:
Operators or, if they are not available, prostitutes within the meaning of Section 2 (2) ProstSchG, must create a hygiene concept in accordance with Section 4 (1) that also takes into account the particular risk of infection of the service offered;.
Operators or, if they do not exist, prostitutes must collect the customer's contact details prior to rendering the sexual service in accordance with Section 4 (2);.
During their stay in prostitution facilities within the meaning of Section 2 (4) ProstSchG and during sexual service in accordance with Section 2 a (1 a), customers must wear a qualified mouth and nose cover;.
Sexual services may only be provided to persons who have been tested within the meaning of Section 2 Number 6 SchAusnahmV;.
Prostitutes must have a test certificate that is no more than 72 hours old in accordance with Section 2 Number 7 SchAusnahmV;.
Prostitutes have to wear a qualified mouth and nose cover during the provision of the service in accordance with § 2 a Paragraph 1 a;.
Sexual services may only be performed by one prostitute at a time for one person; no other people may be in the same room during this time;.
Staying in prostitution centers and providing and receiving sexual services is only permitted for asymptomatic persons within the meaning of Section 2 Number 1 SchAusnahmV who are not recognizably intoxicated;.
No alcohol may be served or consumed in prostitution centers and The provision of sexual services in prostitution vehicles within the meaning of Section 2 (5) ProstSchG, in other vehicles and outside of closed rooms is not permitted. Prostitution events within the meaning of Section 2 (6) ProstSchG and the provision of prostitution vehicles within the meaning of Section 2 (5) ProstSchG are not permitted.
According to the website here, the following clubs are reopening as of Friday: https://www.fkk24.de/fkk-saunaclubs/hessen..
FKK Sharks.
FKK-World.
FKK-Mainhattan.
FKK-Oase.
Bahama Club.
Still closed:
FKK Rom.
The Palace.
Dietzenbach.
FKK Rom will also reopen as of the 1st July, according to their website.
https://fkk-rom.de/
Bertie Wooster
06-25-21, 14:31
According to the website here, the following clubs are reopening as of Friday: https://www.fkk24.de/fkk-saunaclubs/hessen..
FKK Sharks.
FKK-World.
FKK-Mainhattan.
FKK-Oase.
Bahama Club.
Still closed:
FKK Rom.
The Palace.
Dietzenbach.Great information Sir Lanthano. Great to see you back. A guy we can certainly trust. A guy who is for real. Most refreshing to see a real player post the pertinent information that truly sells memberships and brings out the best of us. Keep up the good work and hopefully some of the other most genuine experienced members will soon also post again.
Aside from FKK Rom, FKK Atlanta will also reopen on 1st July.
https://www.fkk-atlanta.de/
Looks like the Palace is the only one yet to reopen formally (have my theories why).
ExpatLover
06-25-21, 18:49
Aside from FKK Rom, FKK Atlanta will also reopen on 1st July.
https://www.fkk-atlanta.de/
Looks like the Palace is the only one yet to reopen formally (have my theories why).Palace needs big fairs to make money.
Palace is reopening on the 2nd July, this Friday.
https://www.fkk24.de/the-palace/events/wiedereroeffnung
Some clubs require that you register your name, email and phone number using the Luca mobile app, when entering the club.
I wrote a guide on how to get a secondary phone number and email on the Hamburg thread, and how to use this contact information with Luca. May be useful to some.
See: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?681-Hamburg&p=2585401&viewfull=1#post2585401.
Tvataham274
08-01-21, 01:05
What's the best app or company for hailing a taxi? So far I've only found an app called sixt. If there is something more akin to uber could I have guidance please?
What's the best app or company for hailing a taxi? So far I've only found an app called sixt. If there is something more akin to uber could I have guidance please?It used be called my taxi. No it is called free now (don't ask me why it is called, it will never be free). You can download from apple store. Just search free now.
Hessen Bob
08-01-21, 01:45
What's the best app or company for hailing a taxi? So far I've only found an app called sixt. If there is something more akin to uber could I have guidance please?Taxi. De.
Mytaxi.
What's the best app or company for hailing a taxi? So far I've only found an app called sixt. If there is something more akin to uber could I have guidance please?I answered this for another member in a different thread: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area&p=2585934&viewfull=1#post2585934.
Best to Look at Free Now app, possibly Bolt.
Got a few questions about traveling within Europe, maybe someone can help. I'm planning to fly from US to Spain for a few days then to Italy for a few days and then finally to Germany.
I'm seeing on the embassy websites for Spain and Italy and they both require some online ID before entry. I'm not seeing one for Germany, is that correct? Is there control in German airports for flights within Europe?
If anyone have experience traveling in Europe in 2021 let me know.
Got a few questions about traveling within Europe, maybe someone can help. I'm planning to fly from US to Spain for a few days then to Italy for a few days and then finally to Germany.
I'm seeing on the embassy websites for Spain and Italy and they both require some online ID before entry. I'm not seeing one for Germany, is that correct? Is there control in German airports for flights within Europe?
If anyone have experience traveling in Europe in 2021 let me know.You have to register on site for Italy, not for Germany, when you are from EU, don't know from US, but for sure at least same.
You have to register on site for Italy, not for Germany, when you are from EU, don't know from US, but for sure at least same.Thanks for the help.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-designates-u-turkey-israel-103037269.html
Oh dear!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-designates-u-turkey-israel-103037269.html
Oh dear!This Israel news is troubling. FT had a good article on Israeli breakthrough cases yesterday. Economic activity is slowing down again. Travel sensitive stocks are rolling down for months and keep in mind that stock prices are forward looking indicators; not looking great in general.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-designates-u-turkey-israel-103037269.html
Oh dear!Along with discontinuing free tests, this is in line with Germany's push to promote vaccination:
“Vaccinated travellers or those who have recovered from covid don’t have to quarantine if they can show proof of vaccination or recovery.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-designates-u-turkey-israel-103037269.html
Oh dear!Breaking hearts (and canceling plans) from coast to coast.
HammerTime96
08-14-21, 21:48
https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-designates-u-turkey-israel-103037269.html
Oh dear!Really? More restrictions? In 'liberal' Germany?
Who would have possibly foreseen that?
HammerTime96
08-15-21, 05:50
Along with discontinuing free tests, this is in line with Germany's push to promote vaccination:Hahaha, the true fanatics still believe in the lockdown-vaccination and their ridiculous "zero Covid" strategy. Look at Israel: the vaccination strategy has failed miserably, but instead you have a Nazi system of apps-Green Passports, lockdowns, and more face diapers!
In the meantime, Indians have barely been vaccinated, so one would expect millions and millions of deaths in a country with 1,4 billion inhabitants, a lot of poverty and poor hygiene, and a mediocre healthcare system. Instead India has embarked on a strategy of treatment versus the insane Chinese-Western strategy of "Zero CoNvid. ".
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
Yes, exactly. Ask yourself why India’s success against the Delta variant with Ivermectin is such a closely guarded secret by the NIH and CDC. Second, ask yourself why no major media outlets reported this fact, but instead, tried to confuse you with false information by saying the deaths in India are 10 times greater than official reports.We've seen what happened with the so-called "British Mutation" in the European winter, which was a complete fiasco for all the scaremongers, so it quietly disappeared off the radar and was replaced with hype about "the Indian Variant. " And now the "Indian Variant" has been silently rebranded as the "Delta Plus Variant" because unfortunately for all the scaremongers, the dead bodies are NOT piling up in India so the Western-Chinese media never mention India anymore.
Oh, and what about herd immunity? Well here it is in India: https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-govt-survey-shows-two-thirds-have-coronavirus-antibodies-2021-07-20/.
One month ago, 67% of Indians had antibodies:
Two-thirds of Indians have coronavirus antibodies, survey showsBut of course the Reuters scaremongers and "fact checkers" desperately try to fan the flames of fear, but now one month after this Fake News Reuters bullshit was published, still NO millions of deaths in India for the remaining third of Indians:
"One out of three, wherever you are, ... is still vulnerable and therefore the pandemic is no way over," he said.The truth is that the remaining 33% of Indians probably also now have antibodies, and of course no mention of Ivermectin from the 'Reuters fact checkers. ' LOL!
This Israel news is troubling. FT had a good article on Israeli breakthrough cases yesterday. Economic activity is slowing down again. Travel sensitive stocks are rolling down for months and keep in mind that stock prices are forward looking indicators; not looking great in general.They had gambled with Pfizer and lost. The Pfizer vaccine is only 42% effective now. Even though they have the highest vaccination rate of any country.
Along with discontinuing free tests, this is in line with Germany's push to promote vaccination:How will this be enforced? What if someone says they will do a quarantine and instead goes to the FKK?
Also the vaccine card is just a 80 lb white cardstock which there are pdf's online. So what is to stop people from printing their own cards?
BigBuddy69
08-16-21, 21:25
Conspiracy time: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460.
Tvataham274
08-17-21, 01:26
Conspiracy time: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57888460.I'm not sure how much of a conspiracy this would be. But if you put an infectious disease in an area with the highest population density on the planet, which also has sub optimal medical infrastructure and it is going to be a melting pot for death. I'm honestly surprised that China wasn't hit harder, considering they were ground zero.
How will this be enforced? What if someone says they will do a quarantine and instead goes to the FKK?
Also the vaccine card is just a 80 lb white cardstock which there are pdf's online. So what is to stop people from printing their own cards?There are definitely cracks in the plan. But I don't think catching foreign travelers with fake documents or breaking quarantine is the main priority. That might amount to hundreds or even thousands of people when the mission is to push millions of their own citizens to go get vaccinated.
I'm not sure how much of a conspiracy this would be. But if you put an infectious disease in an area with the highest population density on the planet, which also has sub optimal medical infrastructure and it is going to be a melting pot for death. I'm honestly surprised that China wasn't hit harder, considering they were ground zero.Who know the truth about real Chinese figures? When some people disappear with no explanation. Who can trust China? Same like Putin.
Today the new C19 rules are announced as they will be valid as of Friday August 20th. Summary:
- clubs do not longer have to close when incient rate 35, but. Then the usual Vaccinated, Cured or (negative) Tested is again valid, but. Antigeen (fast) tests are no longer allower, only the (more expensive) PCR tests! Holds for both ladies and men!
- when indicent rate < 35, no specific C19 rules.
- no longer registration of personal details required (as it seems, not confirmed yet).
So it seems ok for most clients, but the girls now really need to get their vaccination, because bi-daily PCR testing will be an expensive job.
Today the new C19 rules are announced as they will be valid as of Friday August 20th. Summary:
- clubs do not longer have to close when incient rate 35, but. Then the usual Vaccinated, Cured or (negative) Tested is again valid, but. Antigeen (fast) tests are no longer allower, only the (more expensive) PCR tests! Holds for both ladies and men!
- when indicent rate < 35, no specific C19 rules.
- no longer registration of personal details required (as it seems, not confirmed yet).
So it seems ok for most clients, but the girls now really need to get their vaccination, because bi-daily PCR testing will be an expensive job.Nice to hear.
The pcr requirement is definitely in line with the push for vaccination. Developing theory is that pcr tests are not as precise in determining transmissibility. Antigen tests is more correlated with level of viral load / inoculum which would be a better measure of whether someone is infectious.
American friends,
Can I use CDC vaccine card in Germany (at the border, hotel, restaurants, clubs, etc) or do I need some kind of digital verification?
Nice to hear.
The pcr requirement is definitely in line with the push for vaccination. Developing theory is that pcr tests are not as precise in determining transmissibility. Antigen tests is more correlated with level of viral load / inoculum which would be a better measure of whether someone is infectious.I thought the same pharmacies that do the rapid tests for free also do the PCR tests for free?
So the results usually take 24 hours and then you need to return to the pharmacy to get the printed result to carry around?
Today the new C19 rules are announced as they will be valid as of Friday August 20th. Summary:
- clubs do not longer have to close when incient rate 35, but. Then the usual Vaccinated, Cured or (negative) Tested is again valid, but. Antigeen (fast) tests are no longer allower, only the (more expensive) PCR tests! Holds for both ladies and men!
- when indicent rate < 35, no specific C19 rules.
- no longer registration of personal details required (as it seems, not confirmed yet).
So it seems ok for most clients, but the girls now really need to get their vaccination, because bi-daily PCR testing will be an expensive job.I'm googling but I can't find when I'm counting as vaccintated. I took the 2nd dose 1 week ago but to enter Germany I needed to have been taking the dose 2 weeks ago to be counted as vaccinated (so I took a rapid test instead). Is it the same for entering clubs? This is so confusing. Germany. Gah.
I thought the same pharmacies that do the rapid tests for free also do the PCR tests for free?
So the results usually take 24 hours and then you need to return to the pharmacy to get the printed result to carry around?In De, the antigen test can be found for free for now. PCR can be done in various clinics and offices for around 70-100 euro. The pharmacy I checked did not do any tests. You get your test results back on an app on your phone which can take over 24 hrs for PCR.
American friends,
Can I use CDC vaccine card in Germany (at the border, hotel, restaurants, clubs, etc) or do I need some kind of digital verification?CDC vaccine card gets you into the clubs with no problem. No checks at the land border, hotel, and restaurants for me so far. Need to fill out contact tracing info at some restaurants.
CDC vaccine card gets you into the clubs with no problem. No checks at the land border, hotel, and restaurants for me so far. Need to fill out contact tracing info at some restaurants.This is completely terrible with these new tests costing 100 euros that is like wasting an hour session or two 30 minute sessions and then combined with the rental care rates, not good at all.
Smoke Light
08-18-21, 10:41
CDC vaccine card gets you into the clubs with no problem. No checks at the land border, hotel, and restaurants for me so far. Need to fill out contact tracing info at some restaurants.All 100% correct. Same experience last 3 weeks.
I'm googling but I can't find when I'm counting as vaccintated. I took the 2nd dose 1 week ago but to enter Germany I needed to have been taking the dose 2 weeks ago to be counted as vaccinated (so I took a rapid test instead). Is it the same for entering clubs? This is so confusing. Germany. Gah.Yes, you must wait 2 weeks after the second injection to be counted as "vaccinated".
Otherwise you must show a negative test.
This applies for both entering Germany and the clubs.
Most clubs will (re-) open as of today.
Most wil start with 3 G=GGG rules, but only PCR Test not antigeen test allowed anymore. Some clubs (like FKK Prime) already introduced 2 G, so only vaccinated or cured is valid to enter the club. Because PCR test is too expensive and complicated (last 24-49 hours to get result, etc). Expect 2 G to be the norm in a week or so for other clubs also.
Most clubs will (re-) open as of today.
Most wil start with 3 G=GGG rules, but only PCR Test not antigeen test allowed anymore. Some clubs (like FKK Prime) already introduced 2 G, so only vaccinated or cured is valid to enter the club. Because PCR test is too expensive and complicated (last 24-49 hours to get result, etc). Expect 2 G to be the norm in a week or so for other clubs also.If it takes 48 hours to get the result isn't that already too late? Or does one only get one visit per 100 euro test?
CDC vaccine card gets you into the clubs with no problem. No checks at the land border, hotel, and restaurants for me so far. Need to fill out contact tracing info at some restaurants.Thanks for that update Sportsman.
I'm planning going to Bochum for 5 days on 29th. I have both Vaccine Card and European covid digital passport on my phone. Hopefully one or both work.
If it takes 48 hours to get the result isn't that already too late? Or does one only get one visit per 100 euro test?Faster in France, about 12 hours, when PCR test is valid for only 48 hours.
Yes, you must wait 2 weeks after the second injection to be counted as "vaccinated".
Otherwise you must show a negative test.
This applies for both entering Germany and the clubs.I know I must wait 2 weeks to be able to cross the border so I took a test in Sweden before I left. But no Polizei at border of course but all the hotels wanted to have a look at the test at check-in. Very nice of Merkel to provide free rapid test :) Anyway I got into clubs with the EU vaccine passport (or whatever the name is) even if its 5 days left until I should be counted as fully vaccinated.
Most clubs will (re-) open as of today.
Most wil start with 3 G=GGG rules, but only PCR Test not antigeen test allowed anymore. Some clubs (like FKK Prime) already introduced 2 G, so only vaccinated or cured is valid to enter the club. Because PCR test is too expensive and complicated (last 24-49 hours to get result, etc). Expect 2 G to be the norm in a week or so for other clubs also.As expected, PCR seems to be too complicated. Line ups decreased rapidly since yesterday, especially in NRW (where incident 35), and even some clubs closed (like RTC Villa Venus). Interesting to see what happens next and if girls (finally) decide that vaccination is maybe not a bad idea.
As expected, PCR seems to be too complicated. Line ups decreased rapidly since yesterday, especially in NRW (where incident 35), and even some clubs closed (like RTC Villa Venus). Interesting to see what happens next and if girls (finally) decide that vaccination is maybe not a bad idea.Yes, the number of girls per club decreased.
But more clubs re-opened (like Oceans and Dolce Vita), so the girls were distributed on more clubs.
The girls that I met last weekend at ACA Gold were vaccinated.
I know I must wait 2 weeks to be able to cross the border so I took a test in Sweden before I left. But no Polizei at border of course but all the hotels wanted to have a look at the test at check-in. Very nice of Merkel to provide free rapid test :) Anyway I got into clubs with the EU vaccine passport (or whatever the name is) even if its 5 days left until I should be counted as fully vaccinated.It really is an outrage so if one is covid positive then not allowed in a hotel? They are just supposed to pitch a tent instead?
I know I must wait 2 weeks to be able to cross the border so I took a test in Sweden before I left. But no Polizei at border of course but all the hotels wanted to have a look at the test at check-in. Very nice of Merkel to provide free rapid test :) Anyway I got into clubs with the EU vaccine passport (or whatever the name is) even if its 5 days left until I should be counted as fully vaccinated.Some clubs are very strict and will not allow any tolerance.
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