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Chongmal
12-20-18, 05:16
Most customers just wear a towel wrapped around the waist. Few wear robes. At Bab if you want to wear a robe you have to bring your own. Most men stick to the towel so a robe makes you stand our from the locals. Well, there is at least one regular that wears a robe but he usually walks around with it open.

If you follow the GPS to the address of the club you find three or four parking spaces. Use satellite view to see the parking spaces behind the club and how to navigate to them.

There is an a la cartel menu offered in the afternoon. Maybe ask a lady in the club if she can explain it. You may also be able to ask the guy sitting at the table with the giant pork steak or grilled chicken with white sauce and mushrooms. He knows.

One of the nice things about this club is the plan for the ladies is published with photos so you know if she is supposed to be there, a description and a photo of most ladies before you visit. Some ladies are very popular. Some staying booked from 12 pm to 10 pm when you decide you only have two hours left to find another option.

Pgtfg
01-10-19, 22:14
Most customers just wear a towel wrapped around the waist. Few wear robes. Women mostly totally nude; unlike those at Oase who wear adornments.

No time limit. On Thursdays to Saturdays there are many girls to try out up till closing time which is around midnight. Sundays to Wednesdays could have poor lineups. Avoid Mondays at all cost.

Mainly young women between 20-30. Some older ones, and often 2 very very old ones.

Customers mainly Germans, Dutch, French and Belgians. So, common language is NOT English. I normally hear French and German. But most girls speak English, while the Dutch customers will speak English with you.I can only go there maybe this Sunday or Monday, so if I only have Monday I should try somewhere else?

TankTank123
01-12-19, 00:09
I can only go there maybe this Sunday or Monday, so if I only have Monday I should try somewhere else?Google "saunaclub babylon" and choose the item with the word Anwesenheit. This gives you the roster. If you look at the roster for Monday 14th January, it shows that only 7 girls indicated that they would be present, and one of them is the masseuse. I would not take any of the other 6!

Better on Sunday. For example, the roster shows 23 girls to be present tomorrow, at least 2 of whom I would certainly have wanted to session with.

SpermBirds
01-12-19, 08:11
At Pgtfg: Mondays a complete waste, Sundays eventually but surely not a great idea.

The club is rather dead on Sundays and almost completely dead om Mondays. A waste of time and money! The girls which show up on those quiet days are girls which work 7 days a week (sleepovers) or have another "reason" to show up on days where there are almost zero clients and zero atmosphere, most of them are "bad" service providers. Better and smarter to focus on other clubs which are worth it. In Babylon it has been simple for ages: Sunday till Wednesday: poor line-up in numbers, not a lot of clients. Not worthy of 60 Euro entry fur sure, a rip-off almost. Thursday till Saturday: more girls, more clients (especially when there are birthday parties of guests, which is the case almost every week-end or sometimes even more than 1 pro day), the few pretty girls are busy then and unavailable mostly, sausage fest mostly.

Pgtfg
01-12-19, 08:16
Google "saunaclub babylon" and choose the item with the word Anwesenheit. This gives you the roster. If you look at the roster for Monday 14th January, it shows that only 7 girls indicated that they would be present, and one of them is the masseuse. I would not take any of the other 6!

Better on Sunday. For example, the roster shows 23 girls to be present tomorrow, at least 2 of whom I would certainly have wanted to session with.Thanks, for the site, the lineup is effectively non existing as you said it. So I will most likely avoid Babylon Monday, was planning to hit samya Sunday but the site doesn't seem to show such a line up for Samya.

Shame I can't go to Babylon today the line up seems rich, but already have sth private lined up.

Sirioja
01-12-19, 09:43
At Pgtfg: Mondays a complete waste, Sundays eventually but surely not a great idea.

The club is rather dead on Sundays and almost completely dead om Mondays. A waste of time and money! The girls which show up on those quiet days are girls which work 7 days a week (sleepovers) or have another "reason" to show up on days where there are almost zero clients and zero atmosphere, most of them are "bad" service providers. Better and smarter to focus on other clubs which are worth it. In Babylon it has been simple for ages: Sunday till Wednesday: poor line-up in numbers, not a lot of clients. Not worthy of 60 Euro entry fur sure, a rip-off almost. Thursday till Saturday: more girls, more clients (especially when there are birthday parties of guests, which is the case almost every week-end or sometimes even more than 1 pro day), the few pretty girls are busy then and unavailable mostly, sausage fest mostly.Sometimes, some of the German team are working on Monday, with less than 15 girls. German team work on Wednesday.

Latu123
01-29-19, 17:19
Fri 26th Oct arrived by hire car (side note: the main car park is at the back of the building which is accessed from the road behind the club, once parked follow the signs from there to walk around to the entrance at the front), upon entry a bell is rung and some free girls line up at reception, one of the girls is selected to guide you around the club facilities. For my case, Laura. First of all, time to get changed as no clothed mongers allowed past this point, shower (the girls appreciate this regardless if you've already done so before arriving), and wear the towel provided. Note that robes are not given in this club (and no option to hire) but you can bring your own as some fellow mongers had done.

During the tour, I couldn't help noticing there was a fair amount of public action going on. Both outside by the pool (a guy getting a BBJ on one of the outdoor sun loungers in the unusually hot weather for Oct) and in the Kino (full sex). There was more public action later on as well I saw this in the wellness, outside in the garden and in the Kino, but never in the main lounge (but I expect it has happened on other nights). So, if you're into that thing, then I would recommend this club.How much did you pay per girl?

TankTank123
03-24-19, 15:30
Hi guys,

Can anyone verify whether Alexa is indeed back?

I saw just a single entry in this week's roster. Unfortunately I had not been checking the roster for some time as I was not visiting Babylon in my recent trip, and so might have missed noticing her return. (She was my all time favorite in Babylon before she left.).

Thank you for any response!

SpermBirds
03-24-19, 15:39
At TankTank123:

Yes, Alexa was back for a short while but she's taking a break again. She'll be back in a while most probably!

Mechelen
03-24-19, 17:24
Alexa was in Babylon last 2 weeks, but now she's back at home. She told me she will come back within a few weeks.

TankTank123
03-25-19, 00:35
Alexa was in Babylon last 2 weeks, but now she's back at home. She told me she will come back within a few weeks.Thank you! Will plan to go to Babylon in my next trip then.

I hope she has not grown even more during her lay-off. Used to look like a very slim and cute teenager when she first started, but became more mature-looking in the last 2 years before she left.

Mechelen
03-25-19, 01:08
I hope she has not grown even more during her lay-off. Used to look like a very slim and cute teenager when she first started, but became more mature-looking in the last 2 years before she left.She lost some weight, buts still she looks great.

TheRugdr
03-25-19, 08:38
Hey guys,

Anyone know where Mara (ex Christina. LR) is working these days? She still has a profile up at saunaclubs. Org, but hasn't been on the schedule for weeks. Someone on the German forum posted she went to Hamburg (no mention of which club) but then returned to Babylon for a day and no mention of her since January. Cheers.

Pharisaer
03-26-19, 06:25
Hey guys,

Anyone know where Mara (ex Christina. LR) is working these days? She still has a profile up at saunaclubs. Org, but hasn't been on the schedule for weeks. Someone on the German forum posted she went to Hamburg (no mention of which club)She's left heading to Hamburg indeed. Not working in a Sauna or FKK there.

FuckedUpSwede
03-26-19, 22:50
Home after a fantastic weekend in FKK land!

Direct flight from Stockholm to Dusseldorf. I can stand 2 hours in a beercan for this. No problem.

Landed about 11 PM and went directly by rental car to Babylon.

Good first impression of the club and boy, did it last.

The desk told me it was around 40 girls in the club. Got a tour around the club by a Latina who appeared a bit bored but relaxed. Got the usual question if I want a room but I refused and took a stroll around the club to see the options. There was a older Romanian girl that approached me, do not remember her name but she was quite fun and I recognized her as the Romanian alfa of this club, am I right?

Anyway, I had some food and went up to the kino to relax and maybe get in the mood.

Nr 1: Looked at some porn and got approached by a skinny Bulgarian who offered me some fun. She was not cute but I had this fantastic experience in the kino in Mainhattan my last trip so I agreed. A good blowjob followed and I finished after about 40 min. Paid 100 Euro, a ok session, no more no less.

Went down to the sauna / whirlpool section to relax a bit and then headed out to the garden. Here I found a real nice Belgian guy who I spent a lot of time chatting with. He are a regular and gave me some advise for girls.

Now things started to reach another level, the German schlager went on and the mood rose.

The clientele is mostly German and Belgian I suppose. There was mongers dancing with the girls and the beer was flowing!

Nr. 2 I asked my newfound friend about a black girl sitting in the bar. She had not approached me and she had a amazing butt. He knew her well and introduced us. It turn out to be a really nice girl with a lot of joking and chatting. We went for a room of course, and what a session! This women blowjob skills are amazing, wet and hard, and at the same time looking at her fantastic ass sent me over the top! I think her name was Cheyenne or something.

Went for another go with the sauna and whirlpool and settled down in the main room trying to read a book. Then the alfa Romanian took the chair in front of me spreading her legs and rubbing her pussy giving me some shit about that I promised her a room. How could any sane male ignore that?? Anyway it apparently worked and I took her for a ride. It was good, she knows what she are doing, but "Cheyenne" was better. Hard to beat I guess.

20:30, time to leave. My hotel in cologne was supposed to close the check in at 22 so I had to go. Drove there and decided to give Samya a try. Bad experience of the club but 1 good session I give more details in Samya thread.

Insane party at techno club until 8 AM, woke up by the cleaning lady at 11 AM. New day, new adventures!

Went straight to Babylon again but decided that I must control myself, sessioned with 4 girls the day before. Must settle with max 3 for a full day or run out of juice "the white kind, not the green" heavy hangover so I relaxed for some hours before my first hit of the day.

Nr 5. Sat in the main room and this insanely beautiful girl start to touch me, former globe girl it turns out. She acts really bored but I ask her if she wants a session in the kino, nope, won't happen unless we have a threesome with her friend she replies. I argue that I only have one dick, how could I handle two girls? The argument do not stick so I move on to this cute, young looking girl with a nice natural chubby body that turn me on. She have no problem with the kino and I have a nice session while she sucks me and I have full access to her beautiful body.

Really lovely girl. She told me when 30 min had passed and I said I buy a hour. I came after 10 min and started packing up. She looked at me with her innocent eyes and said that there is still 20 min left? I said I really liked it but I was done. I'm that kind of guy. When I have cummed I just want be alone for a while. Love her attitude!

Rested for a couple of hours more while the party intensed in the bar. Really happy place!

I sat in the sauna with 3 other Belgian / German guests. No one spoke, the heat was intense, the only sound was the owen giving small clics and steaming. Now this small, cute, completely nude Romanian appears outside the glass wall of the sauna. She starts to perform a erotic dance while she mimics a blowjob and fucking. I have a hard time thinking of my former wife to keep my dick from going full bananas. The veterans did not bulge an inch. The time passes and she moves on.

Now one of the veterans break the silence. "this pinapple essence really improves the quality of the air in here". At this point I took a decision, I need to hold down my visits so I do not get that jaded.

Nr 6. Tried to get another bored young girl to the kino with no luck and could not find the sauna dancer so I went by myself to the Kino and found Cassandra there all alone. Had a nice session with a lot of DFK. Tried to fuck her without good result but now I took another decision, I really like good blowjobs, fuck I can do at home, lots of willing, divorced 30-40 year old women in Sweden. The problem is they cannot perform a good blowjob since they have been fed from birth that satisfying a man would downgrade them as women. When you have sex with a Swedish women it is always totally on her terms with her pleasure in focus. If you enjoy it is only a bonus. This is the reason they are divorced, Swedish men normally has to masturbate to have pleasure and sooner or later we discover that and divorce so we at least can save some money.

OK enough shit on Swedish women, when I left Cassandra and went for some finishing sauna / whirlpool I passed this girl with a outstanding hair color and haircut compared to the other. She had not approached me anything, just smiled at me a couple of times. This time she spread her legs when I passed and really had a pose that turned me on. However I stood firm I had my last session for the day, quit at 11:30, drove to Cologne, party at another techno club until 06:00, slept to 08:30 and could not fall asleep again, just thinking of those two girls I missed yesterday.

Left hotel at 10:30, drove to Babylon. Eat, sauna, whirlpool, even tougher hangover than previous day. Sex was not on my mind until approx. 2 PM.

Nr 7. She was there, the one with the haircut, happy happy joy joy!

I sat down in the chair beside her and made my request "you and me in the kino?

Answer "no" For phuk sake! She want to know why I want to do it in the kino. I say I like the thrill of looking at porn at the same time I have sex with pornstar material. I prepare to leave and she say "OK, lets go then?" me: "uh? To the kino?" she: "yes, of course".

I tell her I'm in no hurry and she replies "meetoo" then the most amazing blowjob follows. This was truly incredible, it was so perfect, she stretched it out for a whole hour and really loaded that cannon up! I told her that I think you have to take cover since this is going to be nasty. She finished with her hand and I cummed as I never have done before, the load would have made Peter North proud. When I came to my senses I saw her holding my dick and focus her sight on something behind my back. I asked her what it was and I will never forget her answer. "it was the cleaning lady, she just stood there in the door opening, like in chock, with her mouth open and her tongue out. Like. Like. Like. A dog!" She also told me that when we arrived there was a Asian sleeping there and a monger with girl making out but they had enough and left.

I first could not understand the scene but when I did I just burst out in laughter and could not stop!

Shall I be worried? Am I so perverted that I chock a cleaner in a German bordell I suppose I must be on another level of pervertness?

Her name is Bella and I will never forget her!

Now I was empty, totally and completely empty. Back to Sweden.

Kalle Kula
03-27-19, 15:52
Home after a fantastic weekend in FKK land!

Direct flight from Stockholm to Dusseldorf. I can stand 2 hours in a beercan for this. No problem.

Landed about 11 PM and went directly by rental car to Babylon.

Good first impression of the club and boy, did it last.

The desk told me it was around 40 girls in the club. Got a tour around the club by a Latina who appeared a bit bored but relaxed. Got the usual question if I want a room but I refused and took a stroll around the club to see the options. There was a older Romanian girl that approached me, do not remember her name but she was quite fun and I recognized her as the Romanian alfa of this club, am I right?

Anyway, I had some food and went up to the kino to relax and maybe get in the mood..Thank you for a great report. The thought of going at it in the Kino turns me on, but BBBJ is too important for me so I think I have to settle for the rooms.

ExpatLover
03-27-19, 20:18
Home after a fantastic weekend in FKK land!

Direct flight from Stockholm to Dusseldorf. I can stand 2 hours in a beercan for this. No problem.

Landed about 11 PM and went directly by rental car to Babylon.

Good first impression of the club and boy, did it last.

The desk told me it was around 40 girls in the club. Got a tour around the club by a Latina who appeared a bit bored but relaxed. Got the usual question if I want a room but I refused and took a stroll around the club to see the options. There was a older Romanian girl that approached me, do not remember her name but she was quite fun and I recognized her as the Romanian alfa of this club, am I right?

Anyway, I had some food and went up to the kino to relax and maybe get in the mood.

Nr 1: Looked at some porn and got approached by a skinny Bulgarian who offered me some fun. She was not cute but I had this fantastic experience in the kino in Mainhattan my last trip so I agreed. A good blowjob followed and I finished after about 40 min. Paid 100 Euro, a ok session, no more no less.

Went down to the sauna / whirlpool section to relax a bit and then headed out to the garden. Here I found a real nice Belgian guy who I spent a lot of time chatting with. He are a regular and gave me some advise for girls.

Now things started to reach another level, the German schlager went on and the mood rose.

The clientele is mostly German and Belgian I suppose. There was mongers dancing with the girls and the beer was flowing!..In sauna the rule is to keep quite and not to speak I hate being with guys in the sauna chatting about girls and disturbing the others people.

Sirioja
03-27-19, 21:43
Thank you for a great report. The thought of going at it in the Kino turns me on, but BBBJ is too important for me so I think I have to settle for the rooms.At Bab Elsdorf, even in lounge in public, condoms are rare.

Kalle Kula
03-28-19, 16:12
At Bab Elsdorf, even in lounge in public, condoms are rare.Thank you.

I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS?

Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.

I'm starting to save money now. This may be an expensive trip!

The only thing that worries me is that I never see more than 2 black girls on the roster, it used to be at least 4-5.

Maxime
03-28-19, 17:38
Alexa was in Babylon last 2 weeks, but now she's back at home. She told me she will come back within a few weeks.Was away for 10 days, but now back in town this beautiful young MILF!

Christian G
03-28-19, 18:07
I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS? Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.I been there once last year and I saw a couple of girls who did BBBJ in public.

Sirioja
03-28-19, 18:08
Thank you.

I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS?

Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.

I'm starting to save money now. This may be an expensive trip!

The only thing that worries me is that I never see more than 2 black girls on the roster, it used to be at least 4-5.If You are excited about, really no problem to have public sex and not only in kino, but in lounge, at the bar, at Bab. For black girls, You have also at GT in dark kino for natural BJ with no problem. No upselling at Bab or GT, staff ask girls to please clients. CIM at GT is 25.

FuckedUpSwede
03-28-19, 19:35
Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.Yep, I noticed public affection in the kino and in the relax. I like it so I try to do my part. I cannot say I get horny by looking but I feel it contributes to the atmosphere.

Some girls do not like it since they feel that the viewing / wanking bystanders are getting it for free. I'm not sure how to react on that. Is it a part of the game or are they in their right?

There was only 2 "black" girls there if you are referring to Belgian girls with Congolesian heritage? There was as well some south american girls I think. Anyway, the girl I sessioned with was totally fantastic so I think she are enough for your perversions! When do you plan to travel?

Sirioja
03-29-19, 04:20
Who was your claiming to be ex Globe, girl at Bab?

Gino02
03-30-19, 00:19
Thank you.

I suppose you are talking about BBBJ and not BBFS?

Is "public affection" common at Babylon? I imagined that to be a thing of the past.

I'm starting to save money now. This may be an expensive trip!

The only thing that worries me is that I never see more than 2 black girls on the roster, it used to be at least 4-5.Public sex (in lounge, bar, kino etc literally anywhere in the club) is very common in Babylon in the past as well as now. In fact their management boasts about public action to be special attraction of Babylon compared to it's competition clubs. It's also one of the very few real FKKs in NRW where girls are always fully naked wearing only high heel shoes.

It's between you and the WG if your public sex includes BBBJ and / or AO (BBFS) in Babylon. Very few other low business girls may not like if you two are doing BBFS in public, but most of the girls, customers and the management will not care. Management just tells the WGs to make the customers happy, that's all.

If you are looking for many black girls, Germany doesn't really have much options. Since you are saving money for this trip, if black girls are your main targets, maybe you should look into traveling to Brazil. Consider Rio (Termas which are similar to German FKK format) or Sao Paolo (Clinicas which are small brothels with madams managing them). Also, Brazil tend to be cheaper than Germany, on a per fuck or per extra basis.

Good luck.

FuckedUpSwede
03-30-19, 10:13
Who was your claiming to be ex Globe, girl at Bab?I tried to find her on the pictures, since I fail to remember her name, but with no success. I think she has a zigzag tattoo around her neck but not so many other tattoos and she are a real beauty. Too beautiful for my perversions apparently! She seems to be a regular since she was there Friday, Saturday and Sunday the whole time.

Free Dude
03-30-19, 18:46
Current Babylon girls who worked in Switzerland are Claire and Kellie. I would think we are talking about Claire at the moment.

Sirioja
03-31-19, 18:52
I tried to find her on the pictures, since I fail to remember her name, but with no success. I think she has a zigzag tattoo around her neck but not so many other tattoos and she are a real beauty. Too beautiful for my perversions apparently! She seems to be a regular since she was there Friday, Saturday and Sunday the whole time.If she really comes from Globe. Ch, she should be used to public sex, so many guys, not the best looking, at Globe need to show they fuck pretty girls. Kelli doesn't seem to be a public sex girl, even tells to come from Bumsalp. Ch.

Llike
03-31-19, 21:53
Arrived at this club around 5 pm. I liked the layout and couch sections. Food was OK and facilities were new.

However casting in my opinion was terrible. Even lower quality than Happy Garden. Cannot compare to Goldentime casting IMO.

Maybe I arrived on a bad day.

I did see public BBBJ going on in the kino. They were even playing porn in the bar area. Clientele seems better than Turkish club.

ExpatLover
04-01-19, 04:42
I tried to find her on the pictures, since I fail to remember her name, but with no success. I think she has a zigzag tattoo around her neck but not so many other tattoos and she are a real beauty. Too beautiful for my perversions apparently! She seems to be a regular since she was there Friday, Saturday and Sunday the whole time.Most of the girls are regular, I don't believe this story I am student, or I need money I just do it 2 days per week, in fact the girls work every day but in different places, the girls are creating stories to attract more mongers. Students will not work in a FKK but will do escort or better find a sugar daddy who will support her.

Sirioja
04-01-19, 06:28
I don t know when You visit but there are some girls at Bab who are prettier than 90% of GT girls at the moment, and much more fresh natural.

Bab bad point would be to increase entry to 70, when Palace make discount to 50 € , like Oase or Sharks.

ExpatLover
04-01-19, 18:48
I don t know when You visit but there are some girls at Bab who are prettier than 90% of GT girls at the moment, and much more fresh natural.

Bab bad point would be to increase entry to 70, when Palace make discount to 50 , like Oase or Sharks.You are right but GT and Babylon girls are for me all overfucked. So no go place for me.

Ky Daddy
04-02-19, 04:25
Hello,

As can be seen from the timeline of my previous posts, it has been sometime since I have been a contributor. I have been away from Europe but now I am back. This time with my girl friend. We are both open minded and she is intrigued by the idea of visiting a FKK / Sauna Club with me. I posted earlier in the week in the lounge asking about which club would be the best for a first time couple. Babylon was recommended. I think that we will plan a trip from Frankfurt (where we now live) up to Koln because I want her first experience to be good. Not really looking for a swingers club as she wants to have the FKK experience. I have never been to Babylon (more of a GT, LR or ACA guy when in the NRW area), so I know nothing about the place. She is interested in exhibitionism (walking around naked), 3 some with ladies (lady dependent I understand) and maybe even a 3 some with another male guest and myself (no financial exchange). I have read Babylon's website and it seems that the club is accepting of this. Did I get good advice? Do many couples visit? Is there one day that may be better than others for a visit? Any other general tips about Babylon for a couple would be most welcome. Going to a FKK as a couple will be a new experience for me and I don't think I have seen a couple in a FKK but once before and I really didn't pay much attention to them.

Thanks,

KY.

Sirioja
04-02-19, 16:55
Hello,

As can be seen from the timeline of my previous posts, it has been sometime since I have been a contributor. I have been away from Europe but now I am back. This time with my girl friend. We are both open minded and she is intrigued by the idea of visiting a FKK / Sauna Club with me. I posted earlier in the week in the lounge asking about which club would be the best for a first time couple. Babylon was recommended. I think that we will plan a trip from Frankfurt (where we now live) up to Koln because I want her first experience to be good. Not really looking for a swingers club as she wants to have the FKK experience. I have never been to Babylon (more of a GT, LR or ACA guy when in the NRW area), so I know nothing about the place. She is interested in exhibitionism (walking around naked), 3 some with ladies (lady dependent I understand) and maybe even a 3 some with another male guest and myself (no financial exchange). I have read Babylon's website and it seems that the club is accepting of this..I saw woman guests at Sharks, World, LR, but I don't remember at Bab.

Pharisaer
04-02-19, 21:02
She is interested in exhibitionism (walking around naked), 3 some with ladies (lady dependent I understand) and maybe even a 3 some with another male guest and myself (no financial exchange). ... Do many couples visit? Is there one day that may be better than others for a visit?Sometimes do couples visit. Sometimes, but many couples? I don't know. Threesome MFF is possible, just ask the girls. Threesome MMF will not be tolerated, either paid nor not-paid. Avoid Mondays, it's usually a very calm day. Sometimes Friday and Saturday evenings / nights are a little bit busy.

BigBuddy69
04-02-19, 21:42
I think she'll have to wear a towel or something. Only the working girls are nude.

TankTank123
04-02-19, 22:55
Hello,
Hi, see my response to you in the Lounge thread.

Ky Daddy
04-03-19, 04:39
...Threesome MMF will not be tolerated, either paid nor not-paid...Good to know, thank you. Their website implies something else: "Open minded women who like to have fun without payment. And men too. Are welcome to find partners in the FKK-club, if that turns you on. Some couples prefer to mix business with pleasure, in which case the general rules for our female guests apply. " Glad I asked. Thanks.

KY.

Ky Daddy
04-03-19, 04:40
I saw woman guests at Sharks, World, LR, but I don't remember at Bab.I have been told clearly that Sharks does not allow female guests any longer.

Gino02
04-03-19, 19:29
I have been told clearly that Sharks does not allow female guests any longer.Correct. Sharks didn't allow my "girlfriend" to enter last summer. Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and World nicely welcomed us but she had to wear robe except for kino or obviously in the room with me, and no public sex allowed with her except for in the kino. Babylon allowed her to be naked everywhere and we could also do public actions ourselves anywhere we wanted. We didn't look for any FFM or MMF actions, so can't tell how that goes in Babylon.

BigBuddy69
04-03-19, 20:36
How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?

Sirioja
04-04-19, 04:09
I have been told clearly that Sharks does not allow female guests any longer.Times changed at Sharks, like for beauties. Woman guests on Summer 2016, Dina going for FFM.

Ky Daddy
04-04-19, 04:17
How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?Good question, this is why I came here to ask about Babylon, its couples policy and the general vibe for couples.

TankTank123
04-04-19, 04:19
How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?GF wears that key hung with a lanyard round her neck. That was how I once stopped myself at the last minute from approaching someone's pretty girlfriend.

Ky Daddy
04-04-19, 04:33
Correct. Sharks didn't allow my "girlfriend" to enter last summer. Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and World nicely welcomed us but she had to wear robe except for kino or obviously in the room with me, and no public sex allowed with her except for in the kino. Babylon allowed her to be naked everywhere and we could also do public actions ourselves anywhere we wanted. We didn't look for any FFM or MMF actions, so can't tell how that goes in Babylon.Thanks for the answer Gino. Greatly appreciate the information. I assume your GF used the same changing room and shower as you and the other male guests at all the places you went? How did getting a room to have sex with your "GF" go at the places other than Babylon? It has been a while since I have been to World, Palace and Oase and I don't remember if ladies had to go fetch keys after agreeing to room time or if it was simply a matter of finding an empty room. I also seem to recall some sort of situation of having to get sheets from the management. The business of the ladies that I never paid attention to in the past that is now something that is good to know. If you never pursued FFM while in the clubs, did you go simply to give her the experience of seeing these places first hand?

KY.

Ky Daddy
04-04-19, 04:34
How do the other guest differentiate your GF from the WGs?Sorry if my previous reply seemed flippant- not meant to be.

KY.

Downandup
04-07-19, 11:34
I read on ijsberenforum "Entrance to Babylon will go from € 60 to € 70 from 1 May. ".

Sirioja
04-07-19, 16:14
I read on ijsberenforum "Entrance to Babylon will go from 60 to 70 from 1 May.".Even good foods with great breakfast, good drinks, great jacuzzi for balls massage, new spa, good room number 1 , new outside swimming pool, Alexa now blond BJ to CIM in public, pretty girls like Barbie, Kity, Mikaela. De, Tamara. De, Kelli, Claire, both ex Bumsalp which is killed by Globe, friendly staff, Eddy giving me remote to watch ski Worldcup, but Oase and Palace have entry for 50, that s crisis in FKK land, less and less crowded, we are poor, 70 is too expensive, girls will cry more and more for lack of business.

Gino02
04-07-19, 19:23
Thanks for the answer Gino. Greatly appreciate the information. I assume your GF used the same changing room and shower as you and the other male guests at all the places you went? How did getting a room to have sex with your "GF" go at the places other than Babylon? It has been a while since I have been to World, Palace and Oase and I don't remember if ladies had to go fetch keys after agreeing to room time or if it was simply a matter of finding an empty room. I also seem to recall some sort of situation of having to get sheets from the management. The business of the ladies that I never paid attention to in the past that is now something that is good to know. If you never pursued FFM while in the clubs, did you go simply to give her the experience of seeing these places first hand?

KY.Changing rooms and showers: Same for all customers, male or female in all clubs.

World and Mainhattan: Get towels from reception area and find an empty room.

Oase: Get room keys and towels from front bar.

Palace: Get room keys and bed sheets from the wall of room keys (sometimes they will have a lady there managing the keys).

Babylon: We didn't go to any room, so no idea how that works.

We went to these clubs for her to experience how an FKK is inside. Not worth it as it costs a lot for the couples entries with too many restrictions for the woman, except for in Babylon where you can have public sex.

Hopefully you are asking all these (too many) questions to actually go there with your girl, not just to build a story in your head. If you are into writing field reports, please share one after you and your girl experience it in reality.

SpermBirds
04-07-19, 19:26
The raise of the entry price will be either May or June according to regular guests. A ridiculous pricing off course but that's one of the main reasons most regular guests all invite each other every other week-end to the numerous birthday-parties where "friends" get a reduction on the entry fee. Simply ridiculous! The entry fee for the girls was raised last year and they want to raise it again. May end up to become a nasty boomerang hitting the club with a vengeance, who knows?

TankTank123
04-07-19, 23:22
Babylon: We didn't go to any room, so no idea how that works.Girl takes key and signs her name on the room booking sheet.

Like the roster on their website, this is another great thing I find about Babylon: by studying the room booking form, I can find out whether a favorite girl I have not caught sight of is already in a room, and also when she went in!

Ky Daddy
04-08-19, 04:59
... Hopefully you are asking all these (too many) questions to actually go there with your girl, not just to build a story in your head. If you are into writing field reports, please share one after you and your girl experience it in reality.Gino,

Again, thank you for sharing your experience with me. You have experience (as do other members) that I do not have in regard to taking a GF to a FKK. That is why I am asking questions. However, I am a little put off by your last statement and I am sure that you did not mean it the way that you stated it. You and I are both Senior Members with some experience but not as much as others. You have roughly 30 more posts than me. As I look through your posts, it appears that you answer a lot of questions from those who need advice and assistance. That is a good thing as this is part of the reason why we are here, to learn from each other. I appreciate that you take the time to answer people's questions. However, as I compare my posts to your posts, it appears that I have posted far more reports that fit what most consider to be "field reports" than you. That's OK. You provide to the community in your way, answering (and sometimes asking) questions- its all good. But please, there is no need for the high horse attitude towards me (or anyone else) for asking legitimate questions. Best wishes, KY.

Carpaccio18
04-09-19, 20:52
Had a couple of hours to kill close to Cologne, so decided to try out short visit to Babylon as I was in the neigbourhood anyway. Found the rear parking lot without too much driving around, and entered the place around 3 pm. Lady at reception was nice and I got the 1 hour entrance at 30 euro. After asking me if it was the first (indeed), she called over a girl to show me around. Not much of a looker, but she showed me to the lockers and said she would wait for me outside. Showered and wrapped in a towel, I went back to recption, and the girl supposed to give me the tour was no longer there. Didn't really care much for a tour but, reception lady insisted and called over Karla to show me around. Nice girl with a slim frame and a friendly smile. Karla gave me the tour of the place, although I must admit that I was mostly looking at her small, but greatly shaped ass. Even though small, it had the slight pear shape to it that I find very sexy.

There were not many guests, perhaps 10-12 or so, but possibly about 25-30 girls. Some did look a bit bored (and said as much laterj. In general the LU was not bad. Surprisingly little silly cone and not too many tattos, mostly natural slim girls. Really not bad. Many other FKK look like the anteroom of a plastic surgery clinic running a tattoo sideline. In the upstairs cinema a guy was having DATY and a plumb girl was looking bored in the opposite corner. So much for the advertized porne Tuesday, but maybe that's later in the day.

After the tour I was left to myself, and had a coffe and a cigarette in the smoking lounge. I then walked out in pool area and enjoyed the sun a bit. Nice weather. Anyhow, as I didn't come to sunbathe for an hour, so I decided that maybe I should just go for Karla and her lovely ass. And just as that thought struck, out comes Karla so I smiled at her and she came over and sat on my lap. She is really a very sweet girl, so we quickly agreed to go to a room.

In the room she was very much giving the GFE, light and sensually kissing, which is something I otherwise rarely do. From kissing she went to a very well performed BBBJ. Not asking nor upselling it. She reacted promptly to my hints and put her lovely ass in my face, while keeping up the BBBJ. I almost finished right away so had to stop her, and she almost jumped off and nearly apologized. Then followed a bit of DATY, then doggy and several other positions, including standing up in front of the mirror. I even asked her to walk around a little to watch that ass of hers, then taking her right there. Not the least bit of complaint, just genuinly good service and doing everything I asked of her without hesitation. When my 30 min was almost up, I asked her to finish CIM, which she did as a champ and with eye contact.

Very good service, I would definately repeat given the chance. Damage 100 incl the CIM.

After the seesion, my time was up and I had to make a move for an appointment. But left with a smile on my face.

Gino02
04-10-19, 19:47
Gino,

Again, thank you for sharing your experience with me. You have experience (as do other members) that I do not have in regard to taking a GF to a FKK. That is why I am asking questions. However, I am a little put off by your last statement and I am sure that you did not mean it the way that you stated it. You and I are both Senior Members with some experience but not as much as others. You have roughly 30 more posts than me. As I look through your posts, it appears that you answer a lot of questions from those who need advice and assistance. That is a good thing as this is part of the reason why we are here, to learn from each other. I appreciate that you take the time to answer people's questions. However, as I compare my posts to your posts, it appears that I have posted far more reports that fit what most consider to be "field reports" than you. That's OK. You provide to the community in your way, answering (and sometimes asking) questions- its all good. But please, there is no need for the high horse attitude towards me (or anyone else) for asking legitimate questions. Best wishes, KY.You probably didn't realize how many questions you asked on the same general topic on several threads. Enjoying an FKK with your girl is an experience you need to plunge into without getting hung up on too many little nuances of each of the clubs, as long as the club openly welcomes you two. Now that you have that information, hopefully you will enjoy the real experience with your girl.

It doesn't matter who's more senior to whom on these forums. It does matter though who helps others on the board, like we had Kosher Kowboy who from the very first post was helpful and entertaining. I suck at writing trip reports, so I don't even try.

Looking forward to your report on couples FKK trip.

Downandup
04-14-19, 19:47
Babylon is as good as ever, today was quiet with not too many customers nor girls. Most of the girls were really good looking if a little too thin. It was nice not to see any silicone.

Sirioja
04-14-19, 19:55
Babylon is as good as ever, today was quiet with not too many customers nor girls. Most of the girls were really good looking if a little too thin. It was nice not to see any silicone.Sunday is usually not the best casting day, compare to Wednesday to Saturday. Good foods, but 70 for entry will be too expensive compare to some 50 € entry clubs with better casting.

ZimmerBaby
04-15-19, 14:20
Times changed at Sharks, like for beauties. Woman guests on Summer 2016, Dina going for FFM.What is FFM?

Sirioja
04-15-19, 15:12
Babylon is as good as ever, today was quiet with not too many customers nor girls. Most of the girls were really good looking if a little too thin. It was nice not to see any silicone.Yes, You were lucky on this Sunday with pretty Kelli and Claire working. Not often on Sunday. Both ex Bumsalp. Ch.

Sirioja
04-15-19, 15:19
What is FFM?On Summer 2016, I saw Dina. Hu in the garden with a man who came with a woman, his woman was also full naked and they went for 3 some. I liked to look at Dina walking full naked on high heels, with sunglasses, in the garden, when I was having breakfast, best meal of the day. My breakfast with Tamara were delightful, when she smiled and with her blue eyes, what a wow girl on June 2018 at Sharks.

Maxime
04-15-19, 18:35
Current Babylon girls who worked in Switzerland are Claire and Kellie. I would think we are talking about Claire at the moment.Indeed both worked in CH. Kelly worked in other clubs in CH (she did not manage to get into Globe, if you session with her, you understand why), Claire did, but did not survive there. Both are nice looking girls (the best looking in Babylon) but on service level are not more than "ok", nothing special and certainly not at Globe level in that respect.

Sirioja
04-15-19, 19:13
Indeed both worked in CH. Kelly worked in other clubs in CH (she did not manage to get into Globe, if you session with her, you understand why), Claire did, but did not survive there. Both are nice looking girls (the best looking in Babylon) but on service level are not more than "ok", nothing special and certainly not at Globe level in that respect.One is great kisser with also real skill and looking at your reactions for BJ, other can be super GFE real woman asking for pleasure, not far from Globe level, when You treat her to give her will to please You. 2 lovely Romanians.

Downandup
04-15-19, 22:31
Sunday is usually not the best casting day, compare to Wednesday to Saturday. Good foods, but 70 for entry will be too expensive compare to some 50 entry clubs with better casting.What clubs have better casting? I've just left Samya and it does not compete.

Sirioja
04-15-19, 22:35
What clubs have better casting? I've just left Samya and it does not compete.For sure, if You go to Samya on Monday, then I can't do anything for you, but you were quite lucky about Bab casting for a Sunday.

Downandup
04-19-19, 06:31
I returned to Babylon yesterday and the lineup was fairly good, it did not seem very different to my last visit and it was a good day. The was some public sex in the lounge a couple of times and might have been more outside. If anyone is a fan of Jessie from Living Room, then she has started here.

I'm off to Franconia where the clubs are small, the reputation is poor but on the way I shall fortify myself with a stop at Dietzenbach. A few days rest will recharge myself for my final few days in Dusseldorf.

IndianInFkk
04-27-19, 20:09
Nice FKK but does not compare with Bernds of old. Tina the lady at the reception was a darling.

Chayna The African Belgian showed me around.

Sessioned with her to get things started.

Very nice BJ and fair enough overall skills.

Lively lady.

Next there was a Bulgarian lady. I do not remember her name but she is possibly the thinnest lady there with dark hair; possibly in her 40's. She is a disaster in every way. Left her in 15 minutes even without trying to cum.

The next was Merissa. Blonde, Romanian Beautiful, extremely pleasant and bed skills to match the very very best. Spent an hour with het.

It is a pity that, you have to go through all the mechanical muck at FKKs to come across such gems. Merissa is one such.

These women define what an FKK experience should be like.

Maxime
04-28-19, 10:01
Because of Easter (this weekend Orthodox) of course not so many girls now. And since management of the club made the unbelievable decision to increase the entrance fee next week (for men to 70 euro, for girls to even more!) it will be interesting to see how this affects the lineup. It is nice club, with nice gems with good service, but entrance should be equal to 40 euro (as it was 2 years ago) or 50 euro max.

And since a year the service levels are of newbees are not so critically monitored anymore, so the main USP of this club is getting less and less special. SC Venus becomes more attractive this way. Many people will vote with their wallet, so let's see!

Optimist
04-28-19, 10:50
I read elsewhere that during a raid a guy was seen to be getting a BBBJ and that an officer went to guys in rooms asking if they were using condoms.

Secondhand information so I can't verify. Nor do I interpret it in any particular way.

ExpatLover
04-28-19, 12:17
I read elsewhere that during a raid a guy was seen to be getting a BBBJ and that an officer went to guys in rooms asking if they were using condoms.

Secondhand information so I can't verify. Nor do I interpret it in any particular way.Can be true, but for sure it is the minimum the police officer has to do but I am sure without any consequences for the mongers, who cares about the health of Romanian prostitutes as long they are paying the taxes.

Sirioja
04-28-19, 14:07
Because of Easter (this weekend Orthodox) of course not so many girls now. And since management of the club made the unbelievable decision to increase the entrance fee next week (for men to 70 euro, for girls to even more!) it will be interesting to see how this affects the lineup. It is nice club, with nice gems with good service, but entrance should be equal to 40 euro (as it was 2 years ago) or 50 euro max.

And since a year the service levels are of newbees are not so critically monitored anymore, so the main USP of this club is getting less and less special. SC Venus becomes more attractive this way. Many people will vote with their wallet, so let's see!Yes, even good foods, good spa, outside swimming pool, few pretty and GFE girls, can watch ski, but 70 € entry is too expensive for a poor guy like me. Some big clubs have 50 € entry.

Tjohoo
04-28-19, 18:09
Next there was a Bulgarian lady. I do not remember her name but she is possibly the thinnest lady there with dark hair; possibly in her 40's. She is a disaster in every way. Left her in 15 minutes even without trying to cum.I guess you are talking about Mirella. 38 years old, shortish and slim. I've been visiting the club for years, and Mirella is one out of two really bad experiences I have had in the club. The other was a girls in summer 2017 who only stayed in the club some weeks.

T.

TankTank123
05-03-19, 09:40
Rather depleted line up yesterday. Usually, tyere would be about 30+ girls on a Thursday, but yesterday there were barely 20. Fits my estimate that in general there is a 30% reduction over Orthodox Easter in many of the clubs.

What is worse, it was well patronised by men. Many customers continually prowled the area near the room-booking form so as to be able to snap up any good ones coming out to sign out. As such, those few better girls left were continuously booked, leaving less than a handful of the less attractive one available on the couches. Fortunately, one of my favorites was present to make my visit reasonably but not entirely worthwhile.

BigBuddy69
05-03-19, 10:16
Can you confirm that the entrance is now 70 euros? I thought it would be depleted from men after the raise.

Ludacris775
05-03-19, 10:22
Nice FKK but does not compare with Bernds of old. Tina the lady at the reception was a darling.

Chayna The African Belgian showed me around.

Sessioned with her to get things started.

Very nice BJ and fair enough overall skills.

Lively lady.

Next there was a Bulgarian lady. I do not remember her name but she is possibly the thinnest lady there with dark hair; possibly in her 40's. She is a disaster in every way. Left her in 15 minutes even without trying to cum.

The next was Merissa. Blonde, Romanian Beautiful, extremely pleasant and bed skills to match the very very best. Spent an hour with het.

It is a pity that, you have to go through all the mechanical muck at FKKs to come across such gems. Merissa is one such.

These women define what an FKK experience should be like.Hopefully Marissa will be there this August! That's when I plan to be there.

Maxime
05-03-19, 11:20
I read elsewhere that during a raid a guy was seen to be getting a BBBJ and that an officer went to guys in rooms asking if they were using condoms.

Secondhand information so I can't verify. Nor do I interpret it in any particular way.That is correct, my source did mention there was a control action (that happens more often), but this time not only for correct registration / IDs of the girls, they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).

Chances for a quick follow up check / control action are high, since officially BBBJ is not allowed anymore in Germany

(good timing with the raise of the entrance price to 70 euro..............).

Sirioja
05-03-19, 11:43
That is correct, my source did mention there was a control action (that happens more often), but this time not only for correct registration / IDs of the girls, they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).

Chances for a quick follow up check / control action are high, since officially BBBJ is not allowed anymore in Germany

(good timing with the raise of the entrance price to 70 euro..............).Married guy receiving at home and wife taking in post box, surprise surprise.

SpermBirds
05-03-19, 13:55
The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned!

As mentioned before in my last post (page below): completely stupid to raise the entry-price for both clients and girls. The club ain't worth 60 E, 70 E is completely ridiculous and for the girls to start the day minus-100 at least (without transport or extra sleep-in-costs, 2nd raise for them in 18 months or so) is outrageous. On a few days the amount of girls outnumber the amount of clients, imagine how they make decent profit on those days? Maybe by offering extras as mentioned above to try to link the consumer to them "exclusively"? Ridiculous. And on the busy days they will have to stress and fuck like rabbits and start to upsell to recover from the "bad" weekdays. This place has been going downside since a lot of years. It seems they just want to cash and milk the cows.

Optimist
05-03-19, 17:55
Maxime. Good to get info from an experienced guy like yourself. I guess we just have to see if this was just part of a local authority's initiative or if it is a straw in the wind generally.

It maybe the condom control in occupied rooms was limited to the enthusiastic female officer.

Ggekko2009
05-04-19, 02:26
they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).
I wonder how they would send the fine to the men involved especially if they are not Germans with EU ID? I don't carry my passport along with me at all times when in Germany.

I remember getting a speeding ticket once from the Polizei, and they wanted me to pay the fine right on the spot. They would not even accept cash and insisted on payment with a credit card, least they are accused of soliciting bribes. I wonder they would do the same thing, got caught with a BBBJ, just pay the fine on the spot and be done with it. If they do that, then it will be no big deal I guess.

Jimmy Boy 99
05-04-19, 03:21
The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned! SnipA $2 door stop could have prevented a lot of trouble for those guys.

TankTank123
05-04-19, 04:13
Can you confirm that the entrance is now 70 euros? I thought it would be depleted from men after the raise.Yes, it is now 70 Euros. But men on Thursday was as plentiful as before.

Chongmal
05-04-19, 05:50
This place has been going downside since a lot of years. I can't agree with this statement. The club has had serious renovation with the wellness center and pool outside. The furniture is nice and the food is passable. It's not a cut above the rest and I won't support the €70 entrance price.

TheRugdr
05-04-19, 08:16
That is correct, my source did mention there was a control action (that happens more often), but this time not only for correct registration / IDs of the girls, they also entered some busy rooms (without knocking) and then noticed (illegal) BBBJ and then the men involved were registered also (don't know if they were fined yet, but they announced they will receive a fine shortly).

Chances for a quick follow up check / control action are high, since officially BBBJ is not allowed anymore in Germany.What time of the day / evening was this? I assume it was at night when busiest, and that's why they were able to catch so many guys breaking the law. I've only seen two inspections (both at LR), and they were earlier in the day and they didn't go into any of the rooms.

70 euros is of a rip-off for Babylon. They don't even provide robes and are stingy with the bigger towels.

Sirioja
05-04-19, 08:16
The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned!

As mentioned before in my last post (page below): completely stupid to raise the entry-price for both clients and girls. The club ain't worth 60 E, 70 E is completely ridiculous and for the girls to start the day minus-100 at least (without transport or extra sleep-in-costs, 2nd raise for them in 18 months or so) is outrageous. On a few days the amount of girls outnumber the amount of clients, imagine how they make decent profit on those days? Maybe by offering extras as mentioned above to try to link the consumer to them "exclusively"? Ridiculous. And on the busy days they will have to stress and fuck like rabbits and start to upsell to recover from the "bad" weekdays. This place has been going downside since a lot of years. It seems they just want to cash and milk the cows.I know you know clubs, so Eddy really improved his club with new spa, outside swimming pool. Foods are better than at GT and of course LR, on YY level for me. Sometimes can find some beauties like Barbie, Angel becoming Kity, Mikaela, Tamara, Kelli, Claire, so I had no problem to pay same entry rate than at GT, and Bab club services are higher level than at LR. Eddy gave me remote, even not a regular but he really wants to please clients, to watch my ski. But I agree 70 is now the most expensive when Palace or Oase lowered to 50 . Like at Bernds, we know what services are offered by some Bab girls to get business, they would not get much with safe sex. But to be honest, yesterday at GT, a new beauty asked me for BJ with or without? How do You think I got? But I free ride since 30 years without helmet and I m free, I don't return to my wife after. But I agree with you on 1 point, even I will always need beauty to enjoy, but GT is on average the best level for sex in Germany, higher than Bab and LR now when performers like Daria or Jeni. Ro left. But sometimes can find a great girl anywhere and I never thought I would on such level at fucking tourists Oase, but among many low level girls.

Maxime
05-04-19, 08:18
I wonder how they would send the fine to the men involved especially if they are not Germans with EU ID? I don't carry my passport along with me at all times when in Germany.I think it is obliged in Germany to carry an ID at any time (as it is in more EU countries). At least in your locker (when you are in a FKK that seems the most logical place :))

Sirioja
05-05-19, 11:32
What time of the day / evening was this? I assume it was at night when busiest, and that's why they were able to catch so many guys breaking the law. I've only seen two inspections (both at LR), and they were earlier in the day and they didn't go into any of the rooms.

70 euros is of a rip-off for Babylon. They don't even provide robes and are stingy with the bigger towels.I was for 2 registration controls at LR, it was funny because no more ashtray in lounge, I remember girls had to go to smoke outside on March, putting on towel. What was great was many guys left, so had my ex Eve full free only for me and yes, police who blocked all exists even to the garden, also entered rooms, 3 times during one of my rooms with her, she showed number they gave her and we kept on, maybe they thought I was too long to cum, but I was never controlled on any controls when I visited.

Ggekko2009
05-06-19, 00:21
The correct info is that during the raid some of the rooms were being visited and at least 1 client has been charged because of BBFucking and most probably he will be fined heavily. Some other clients were being "caught" during BBBJ and they were registered and will be fined most probably as well. Will be nice if the mail arrives at home and their missus / wife / girlfriend receives the letter. Other clients were left unnoticed as it should be. Play with fire and you'll get burned.Hopefully, these letters would be delivered in German rather than in English, and would most likely appear as gibberish to non German speakers.

Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.

Gino02
05-06-19, 02:29
Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.I doubt this direction will change until a pro-business true-Catholic anti-feminist male (or an ex-hooker or ex-madam female who was successful in prostitution) Chancellor comes to the office in Germany.

Sirioja
05-06-19, 06:02
Hopefully, these letters would be delivered in German rather than in English, and would most likely appear as gibberish to non German speakers.

Anyway, all these Polizeirazzia are really sucking the fun out of the FKK experience.Maybe guys involved were German, many go to AO.

Chongmal
05-06-19, 12:08
I doubt this direction will change until a pro-business true-Catholic anti-feminist male (or an ex-hooker or ex-madam female who was successful in prostitution) Chancellor comes to the office in Germany.Has anyone been to Bab during or since the control, or do we all just know somebody who said. I'm curious what such a control would do to service levels and the impact on upselling.

Pessimist
05-06-19, 18:20
Any guesses on what is the impact on your next entry into Schengen if you are caught red handed and (bare back dick) in one of these raids?

Universo Fkk
05-09-19, 11:35
I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from € 60 to € 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of € 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to € 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least € 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.

Chongmal
05-09-19, 20:25
I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.I think the club gambles and will likely win. If any other major club in NRW follows suit then the dominoes will fall and clubs in mass will increase to 70 e. Additionally, if the price increases for the ladies then the price per 30 and extras will also increase.

A discussion about this was held elsewhere. 3 meals, drinks all day, sauna, jacuzzi and a nap in the garden. This easily costs more at a non sex related business and here you get to play with beautiful ladies and have sex too, if you want to pay more.

ExpatLover
05-09-19, 23:00
I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.They are free to fix the price they want, we are free to go or not, I will not spend 70 there like the entry for Artemis or palace are far too high. The key of the business is the quality of the LU vs price, high price for average LU will not last long.

Maxime
05-10-19, 08:11
I am so sorry to have to express my total disappointment for the increase in the admission price from 60 to 70.

I think, like many other visitors, that the price of 60 was already too high compared to the facilities that the club offers compared to the facilities offered by other clubs in the area (Magnum, Samya, Golden Time) for a lower price.

The increase to 70 is completely unjustified and absurd. For this reason, I, like many other visitors, will no longer go to the club until the price has returned to at least 60.

I also see that since the beginning of May, due to this price increase, the number of visitors and, consequently, the number of guest girls has already decreased. First it was 46/48. Now it does not reach 30.

I find all this an absurd business decision.

Totally agree, and as said before, vote with your wallet!

Most regulars I speak plan to reduce their visits to Elsdorf with 25-50%, but also more than 20% of people will NOT come anymore, so do the math what the effect is of this 16% price increase. Then the girls: price increase more than 30%, and indeed what happens............Less girls, less men, etc, etc => 40 euro is a suitable price for this kind of club (as it was 2 years ago), but ok, 50 Euro can be justified, but more..............No.

Not only the number of girls dramatically reduced (and that is not only due to Orthodox Easter, that is already 2 weeks ago), but worse: especially the top of line girls do not appear on the schedule anymore. Real pity, because in essense this club had a good line up and "service level management".

Sirioja
05-10-19, 08:26
Due to real improvements for spa, outside swimming pool, quite good foods better than GT, nice staff trying to please clients even You are not known as a regular, but a bit average casting with not many beauties like Mikaela or Kelli or Claire face or Dolli, market rate worth for me like GT = 60 , when LR is too expensive for club services, average foods, only 10 rooms, only Bundesliga to watch, when I was given remote to watch ski at Bab, when they didn t know me. But not so many clients at Bab than GT, not same kind of clients, Belgium versus NL. Public sex in both, only in kino at GT.

Ortos
05-10-19, 08:28
I think the club gambles and will likely win. If any other major club in NRW follows suit then the dominoes will fall and clubs in mass will increase to 70 e. You really think so? But on the other hand: The tail does not wag the dog.

Chongmal
05-10-19, 09:00
You really think so? But on the other hand: The tail does not wag the dog.If the club had a run of 5 days with less than 10 Male guests they might return to the prior pricing. As long as they cover operating costs they can let it roll and see what happens. Larger clubs are watching.

Remember a few years back, Oceans allowed the ladies to set the second 30 minutes to 50 instead of 25. Some ladies had tried this before at other clubs but customers and management had pushed back. When word spread about Oceans, other clubs raised entry and allowed the increase on the second 30 to become official.

McAdonis
05-11-19, 01:36
If the club had a run of 5 days with less than 10 Male guests they might return to the prior pricing. As long as they cover operating costs they can let it roll and see what happens. Larger clubs are watching.I agree, boycott. My understanding is Bernds is the only NRW club that charges 70. But Bernds doesn't need a lot of customers to stay afloat.

Sirioja
05-11-19, 12:56
Clubs didn't increase entry rate at Oceans opening. Oceans is really nothing in NRW market. GT don t plan to increase from 60, in close future, girls stay for 50 for each 30 mn and when a girl likes You, You can have sometimes over 1 hour for only 100 , with kisses and smiles. Before Oceans opening, prettiest girls at GT, Aida. Ro coming from PHG in April 2013 who was my first weekly regular at PHG then GT, Liz. De on Summer 2013, Rachel. De who increased in September 2013 , Sam. De, asked for 100 for 1 hour, but You could go for 30 fast minutes for only 50, or with GND or oldies for 75/ h and even 25 € per other 30 mn, but GND always been too expensive for me.

Sirioja
05-11-19, 21:33
I agree, boycott. My understanding is Bernds is the only NRW club that charges 70. But Bernds doesn't need a lot of customers to stay afloat.I'm not a regular, but I m pretty sure Bab real regulars will keep on going to Bab, even increased entry, because real FKK, different atmosphere than Samya or GT or LR, maybe few could move to PSR. Other clubs around are nothing. I wish good luck to Eddy who is very welcoming.

Sirioja
05-14-19, 20:52
Despite increased entry to 70, some pretty girls for a Tuesday, and more on tomorrow tagesplan, maybe more expensive will make less clients, so girls will be more fresh and free, so more enjoyable to taste few beauties.

Piggsy
05-17-19, 02:53
Can anyone tell me the birthday experience here?

Its free entry. But does anything else happen. I prefer a low key event.

Will be on my own. (Coming from Australia via Greece). So I can be there on my birthday in Oct.

Did this once before (at living room. Kaast) and could not think of a better way to spend it. !

Of course I hear it's cheap entry for birthday friends. So you're all invited.

Chongmal
05-17-19, 09:16
Despite increased entry to 70, some pretty girls for a Tuesday, and more on tomorrow tagesplan, maybe more expensive will make less clients, so girls will be more fresh and free, so more enjoyable to taste few beauties.We see how the "Less Clients" theory is working at my home club. High rotation, the ones with regulars stay, you're left with little choices. Nice ladies move on before you catch them unless you're there every day. Bab would normally be on my list for this trip but I can't support 70 e for good but not excellent clubs. They already take a lot and invest the minimum to keep the clubs open.

As for the Birthday Boy, Happy Days. Should be free entry, maybe a nice greeting at the desk. Enjoy the day and safe travels.

BigFoot69
05-17-19, 19:53
Hello Piggsy,

Your entrance at Babylon is definitely free on your birthday as I have experienced it myself. After you are in you could can do your own thing. You are just like any other visitor unless you draw attention yourself.

I found the old entrance fee already quite stiff as I'm more a short time person which is also not interested in the wellness bit when I go to the club. In my eyes the raise is also not justified. I had used the shorttime tariff of 1 HR which was 30 EUR but is now also raised to 40 EUR. The 1 hrs is cutting it fine when you want to see who is there and do not want to be hurried. A 2 hrs tariff at 40 EUR would may be make me come back but at the moment I'm quite happy to test other clubs that are out there. Here are one some of the alternatives that I have tried:

7 Heaven 25 EUR entrance, to be forgotten, very dark atmosphere, buffet not existing and on a Wednesday few girls max 6 on a scale 1 to 10. (my personal judgement).

Acapulco Gold Ratingen 35 EUR entrance, real alternative, currently the sisterclub is under renovation so double the girls, almost too full for the location, no garden, club also a little aged, had my best room ever there 40430. Most girls wear lingerie rather than being fully nude.

Another alternative is FKK Oase close to Frankfurt, 30 EUR entrance for 2 hrs, much bigger club and selection, but I realize its a bit far from the Cologne area.

Sirioja
05-18-19, 08:33
We see how the "Less Clients" theory is working at my home club. High rotation, the ones with regulars stay, you're left with little choices. Nice ladies move on before you catch them unless you're there every day. Bab would normally be on my list for this trip but I can't support 70 e for good but not excellent clubs. They already take a lot and invest the minimum to keep the clubs open.

As for the Birthday Boy, Happy Days. Should be free entry, maybe a nice greeting at the desk. Enjoy the day and safe travels.Don't know for LR but for sure new girls seen on Easter time won't attract much and Ramadan can be a problem, but Bab was so empty on my visit, even many usual girls, Alexa now blond, but unfortunately 2 ex Bumsalp lost freshness for look compare to when they arrived, not attractive now, sad.

John Traveller
05-25-19, 06:09
(report is from early 2018).

From Cologne I caught the train to Zieverich. I had planned to go by taxi the last part to Elsdorf but there were none around. I knew there was a bus route, and to my luck one passed by just after a few minutes. Babylon Elsdorf is a medium sized club, with the usual facilities. It's in the countryside and has few tourist. Most guests are regulars who all know each other it seemed. Public action can be seen at times. I was a bit disaponted with the lineup, the very few women that I found interesting were constantly busy. It was Saturday.

First I roomed with Mara (Ro 21), then Andrea (Ro / It 23). Both offered acceptable service, but nothing memorable. This place is for the specially interested, I think. Like a "stamkneipe". So it got boring for my part. I returned to Zieverich station by taxi and enjoyed a cold wait for the train.

BalticCouple
05-25-19, 22:56
We are a swinger couple 42/53 yo.

Question to friendly regular customers of the Bab: how normal would such a couple look in the club? How often this sort of visitors do show up in there? And what sort of attitude these couples receive from professional ladies of Babylon?

Thanks in advance.

Maxime
05-26-19, 07:40
We are a swinger couple 42/53 yo.

Question to friendly regular customers of the Bab: how normal would such a couple look in the club? How often this sort of visitors do show up in there? And what sort of attitude these couples receive from professional ladies of Babylon?

Thanks in advance.Couples are welcome in Babylon, I did see it many times, and not a problem Man and woman both pay entrance and both are considered not to go FKK (that is for the Babylon girls only, also because then it s directly clear who are working girls and who are "guests"). Many girls are open for threesomes, you can see that in their service profile when it says "Damen und Paaren", see https://www.saunaclubs.org/saunaclub-forum/awl. If you want more specific suggestions for girls who like this, send me a PM.

Enjoy!

Universo Fkk
05-29-19, 01:46
In this club is it possible / fairly easy, asking politely, having sex without a condom or is it almost impossible?

Thanks in advance.

I don't know if in this forum it is possible to exchange private messages. If so, I would like to thank those who will be able to indicate the girls who offer this type of service.

Have fun!

Gino02
05-29-19, 22:18
In this club is it possible / fairly easy, asking politely, having sex without a condom or is it almost impossible?

Thanks in advance.

I don't know if in this forum it is possible to exchange private messages. If so, I would like to thank those who will be able to indicate the girls who offer this type of service.

Have fun!Possible in every single FKK or brothel, almost from all girls, but not by asking them. Rather when they see you are clean, nice, respectful, fun and feel a human connection, not just a customer who considers the girl as a piece of meat for his payment. In fact the moment you ask, chances of getting AO (Cathoilic service) becomes zero in 99% cases. Also, girls who had AO sex with one guy may not want that with another guy. So asking other customers which girls in a regular FKK or saunaclub provide AO, is useless.

Alternatively you can try some RTCs or RTC type clubs for near guaranteed AO.

ExpatLover
05-30-19, 03:26
In this club is it possible / fairly easy, asking politely, having sex without a condom or is it almost impossible?

Thanks in advance.

I don't know if in this forum it is possible to exchange private messages. If so, I would like to thank those who will be able to indicate the girls who offer this type of service.

Have fun!If the girls is okay and you have cash everything is possible in a FKK like with all the prostitutes but a small advice from a long term monger, don t do that, it is at high risk most of those girls have 5 to 15+ clients per day coming from everywhere in the world without any medical check for the girls or the guys.

FuckedUpSwede
07-22-19, 22:54
Visited my favourite club in NRW today.

It was really slow, I hope it was because of the Monday and holiday times and not the price increase.

It anyway had good food, good staff as well as good relax facilities as always and I had one good session with a nice girl.

It also had some public fun in the garden and I of course contributed in the Kino. You must keep traditions alive!

PayForIt
07-22-19, 23:03
Visited my favourite club in NRW today.

Enjoying keeping up with your tour. And am very jealous!

Why is this your favourite NRW club?

What has the price increase gone to?

Thanks.

Gino02
07-22-19, 23:04
Visited my favourite club in NRW today.

It was really slow, I hope it was because of the Monday and holiday times and not the price increase.

It anyway had good food, good staff as well as good relax facilities as always and I had one good session with a nice girl.

It also had some public fun in the garden and I of course contributed in the Kino. You must keep traditions alive!Glad you enjoyed. Babylon was slow couple of weeks ago on a Friday evening too, the 70e entry might be too high for that area with few tourists, whereas Finca is only 35e entry before 2pm (50e otherwise) not too far away although facilities not as modern and food not as good.

TankTank123
07-23-19, 00:02
What has the price increase gone to?For the new additions (like the sauna) at the rear probably. Someone's got to PayForIt you know!

FuckedUpSwede
07-23-19, 00:06
Enjoying keeping up with your tour. And am very jealous!

Why is this your favourite NRW club?

What has the price increase gone to?

Thanks.Glad you enjoy!

To be honest I have only tried a fraction of the available clubs in NRW (I have tried Aca gold, Dolce vita, LV, GT, Samya and Babylon). I do not like party clubs, party is something totally different for me and probably a lot more hardcore than for the normal monger. Because of this I seek a relaxed club where I can regain strenght by having a sauna, float in a jacuzzi, eat good food and fuck girls that do not give me an headache by harassing me for a room and upsell things I normally take for granted.

For me it is a bonus if the place is hard to reach by public transport because I always have a rental car and then there will be mostly local mongers that require girls that give good service.

Babylon checks all the boxes sort of speak. Entry is 70, I think it was 60 before.

I will take a brake in my tour since I am sexually exhausted to a point where I today abandonded a venue with naked girls laying in the sun inviting me to fuck them in favour of a venue containing garden gnomes. I only returned because of hunger, for food, not pussy. After my first and only session I also tried to extract information from the Romanian beauty where to find those gnomes. She could not help me with this problem.

Karlo7
07-23-19, 13:23
Visited my favourite club in NRW today.

It was really slow, I hope it was because of the Monday and holiday times and not the price increase.

It anyway had good food, good staff as well as good relax facilities as always and I had one good session with a nice girl.

It also had some public fun in the garden and I of course contributed in the Kino. You must keep traditions alive!Hi FUS,

How many women were there at the peak?

And at what time of day was this peak?

It would really help the reader if people automatically provided the answer to these 2 above questions in their reports.

Also, where do you find it best to rent a car from?

Thanks bud.

FuckedUpSwede
07-23-19, 15:49
Hi FUS,

How many women were there at the peak?

And at what time of day was this peak?

It would really help the reader if people automatically provided the answer to these 2 above questions in their reports.

Also, where do you find it best to rent a car from?

Thanks bud.Hi, I do not really see the point in telling how many women there are? Is turnover interesting in a company or is it profit and / or marketshare.

I suppose the monger / girl ratio is relevant to calculate the risk of wait time for girls. The ratio fuckrooms / mongers are relevant for waiting time for rooms, the ratio mongers / squaremeter is relevant for space.

I can assume that you think that many girls in a club equals big spread in origin / bodyshapes / personality / face. This is not really the case according to my experience. Big clubs, with many girls, tend to consist of mostly Romanian 25 year old slim girls.

Anyway, there was about 10 girls at peak time and that is 1 pm to 11 pm in this club.

I always rent a car at the airport I arrive at and I rent from Avis or Hertz. I cannot give you a neutral opinion since my company has a agreement with them so I never pay for rental cars since I travel all the time within Sweden and sometimes around europe and get "points".

Gino02
07-23-19, 16:02
I always rent a car at the airport I arrive at and I rent from Avis or Hertz. I cannot give you a neutral opinion since my company has a agreement with them so I never pay for rental cars since I travel all the time within Sweden and sometimes around europe and get "points".I always book a rental car thru Expedia app, without buying their insurance, and using my Gold or Platinum credit cards to pay at the car rental company's airport counter which automatically covers full insurance for the car. I'm yet to find any better deal than thru the Expedia app, usually between 20 and 30 euros per day, sometimes cheaper weekly rates for a compact car, with occasional free upgrades. Sometimes I book really late, as late as just after landing in Germany, literally 20 minutes before showing up at the car rental counter.

Tintin1
07-23-19, 16:25
Glad you enjoy!

For me it is a bonus if the place is hard to reach by public transport because I always have a rental car and then there will be mostly local mongers that require girls that give good service.

Babylon checks all the boxes sort of speak. .Thank you to F-you Swede and Gino for the insights, I've put this on my "Winter 2020" tour list. I'm hoping to visit 6 FKKS on a 8 day tour unless I get so exhausted I have to just stay in my hotel and order Outcall with a naked massage therapist. 😀.
Going to hit: Coliseum (Augs), Sunshine (Munich - recently remodeled); over to Sharks, then up to Babylon and ending in Artemis. ONE MORE to go..... Probably in the NWR area, and not the club in central Frankfurt.

Karlo7
07-23-19, 22:34
Hi, I do not really see the point in telling how many women there are? Is turnover interesting in a company or is it profit and / or marketshare.

I suppose the monger / girl ratio is relevant to calculate the risk of wait time for girls. The ratio fuckrooms / mongers are relevant for waiting time for rooms, the ratio mongers / squaremeter is relevant for space.

I can assume that you think that many girls in a club equals big spread in origin / bodyshapes / personality / face. This is not really the case according to my experience. Big clubs, with many girls, tend to consist of mostly Romanian 25 year old slim girls.

Anyway, there was about 10 girls at peak time and that is 1 pm to 11 pm in this club.

I always rent a car at the airport I arrive at and I rent from Avis or Hertz. I cannot give you a neutral opinion since my company has a agreement with them so I never pay for rental cars since I travel all the time within Sweden and sometimes around europe and get "points".Thanks FUS, I appreciate your thoughts on this and for answering my questions.

I think for a lot of men wanting to visit these clubs a big part of the appeal will be to see an attractive view of lots of attractive naked women. Lets say 50 is preferable and more interesting to 10 for many men. Especially if they want to stay for several or more hours and enjoy the venue and its facilities. So its helpful to have an idea of the numbers. Though It is logical that the Wednesday Thursday and especially Friday and Saturday evenings and nights may be the busiest for women and men in most FKK clubs.

Just like a strip club or night club with 50 women in will be more interesting and vibrant than with 10.

TankTank123
07-24-19, 05:59
... Lets say 50 is preferable and more interesting to 10 for many men. Especially if they want to stay for several or more hours and enjoy the venue and its facilities. So its helpful to have an idea of the numbers. Though It is logical that the Wednesday Thursday and especially Friday and Saturday evenings and nights may be the busiest for women and men in most FKK clubs.FUS visited Babylon on a Monday, which is invariably the day with the lowest attendance in Babylon. Furthermore, it is mainly the unattractive ones who turn up on Mondays in the hope of ensnaring visitors when there is no competition. I normally visit Babylon on Thursdays when the attendance of girls is usually full, and I avoid Fridays when it is usually flooded with men.

Babylon is the only major FKK I know of that publishes its expected attendance list online. I have just checked this week's list. Starting from Monday 22/7 to Sunday 28/7 the expected numbers are: 10, 21, 36, 35, 37, 34, 23.

Monday and Tuesday are past, so the 10 and 21 are confirmed numbers. The rest are subject to change.

In Babylon, most girls would have arrived by 2 pm, so the 'peak' starts then.

Sirioja
07-24-19, 08:36
Seem less girls, less clients since increased entry for both and less reliable tagesplan. Claire moved to 6 ens. Best castings from Thursday to Saturday.

FuckedUpSwede
08-25-19, 22:29
I ended this trip with Babylon. Arrived at approx. 11:30 AM and left approx. 5:30 PM.

I think it was around 20 girls present, I have met most of them before, my long term goal is to fuck every single girl in this place. Or "fuck" may not be entirely correct, I mostly go for a blowjob since I consider the "fucking" part boring.

I know this place have high entrance and I know the line-up is not fabulous, but I just feel so relaxed in this place. I lay in a sun chair and watch the naked girls play in the pool while I sip on my cold Apfelschorle and think of who will be my next encounter.

I do not need more than that to be a happy man really!

All problems drift away in a cozy bliss filled with cute girls and happy mongers playing and flashing their junk. I don't know, maybe they put tranqulizer in the apfelschorle or something but it works for me.

Two things did in fact cloud my mind this time.

1. Why do most of the girls get busy at approx. 5:30 PM? I have experienced the same thing before at this place 1 hour before closing but why 5:30 PM?

2. I had my mind set to session a small Bulgarian that was playing in the pool so when she came up I asked her for a room. She asked if I could wait while she had a cigarette and I agreed and entered a sun chair. But my wait was in vain, when she finished her cigarette she went with another monger. What did I do wrong?? That kind of shit really haunts me!

I only had one session, in the kino, with bystanders. The girl was Daniela 24 years from Macedonia. Claims to be former Globe, I do not know if that is correct. Anyway she is a nice girl and did a great job to make me happy.

Over and out for this time from the flower power man!

Ludacris775
09-07-19, 14:58
I am going to write about what was the highlight of my trip. Kelly at Babylon is my new ATF, and I returned to Babylon several times during the course of this trip to session with her!

After the first Pascha visit (around noon), my buddy and I decided to visit Babylon in the evening. Club was overall nicer looking than Arabella. It was a nice relaxing place with friendly staff. As far as club atmosphere, the only downside was the flies moving around and landing on some of the food items. That was gross. *.

There were a few girls that caught my eye, Tanya being the first one. I originally wanted to session with her, but she was not available. My buddy pointed her out to me when I got to the club, but she went off to a room. She is a cute, young, brunette, Romanian spinner. I had an hour session with Katyrina (brunette, kind of short, curvaceous, has tattoos, ID say average looking) as my first session instead of Tanya. My session with Katyrina was just alright, but way better than the fiasco that was Cindy at Arabella. At least she got me to bust a nut with a decent CBJ. * I originally planned to wait just 20 more minutes after sessioning with Katyrina to see if Tanya is available before returning to Pascha for a second time. During that time, I noticed another girl that appealed to me. I noticed a blond, 25 yr old, attractive, olive skinned, Romanian girl talking to one of the German guys there on the couch. She was wearing heels. I was like "wow" from the start. She was wearing a towel, so I thought she was busy.

From my experience, wearing the towel usually indicates that a girl is taken. I was initially hesitant to approach her for that reason. It turned out she was not reserved at the moment. I asked her what her name is and if she wanted to go to the room. Her name is Kelly (Nelly? She looked and smelled great LOL. Immediately, she started kissing me and we started making out as soon as we entered the room. The whole experience had a very spontaneous feel to it. It was not mechanical at all! She was very passionate and wild in bed and we tried all kinds of different things. A very fun girl to be around. It was thirty minutes of pure bliss and excitement. My buddy sessioned with Tanya (she was finally available) while I sessioned with Kelly. We both wished we stayed at Babylon that night instead of returning to Pascha. From then on I was contemplating coming back to Babylon to see her.

The next day, I went to Living Room. When I was at Living Room, I had a good (vanilla) sessions with Raina and Samara.

The day after that I traveled back to Amsterdam. I had one bad session in De Wallen the day after I got back to Amsterdam from Germany. It was with a Greek lady "Maria". It was at night, so the optics were overall better than during the day at De Wallen. On the flip side, there were lots, of lots, of tourists watching, which really ruined the mood. The tourists gawking as I entered the window is probably half the reason why the session wasn't good. It gets me out of the frame of mind I need in order to have a good session. Her attitude was not great either and it was all very mechanical. Her back was almost completely covered in tattoos. I just walked out of the window 45 minutes early only for more annoying tourists to stare at me. I just chalked it up to a loss and moved on.

*From that point on, I knew what I needed to do. I spent the rest of my trip near Elsdorf in Germany, and went back to Kelly at Babylon several times. I had five more amazing sessions with her! When I got back to Babylon, there was a group of 6 girls that approached me without being prompted and offered to give me a six girl orgy LOL. Six girls is a bit too much now, maybe next time. I did have a 2 girl session though which I enjoyed, along with other new experiences. Never got to session with Tanya unfortunately.

Total Damage: Around 800-900 euros total for Babylon including sessions, tips, and entry fees. Recieved a discounted entry fee one night (40 euros) because I arrived an hour before the club closed.

Kelly: 415 euros total for all sessions.

Other notes: I have also observed that Thursday is the best day. On the Fridays and Saturdays I went there were lots of guys. On Thursday, there was the full lineup of girls but not so many guys.

HungryStud101
09-07-19, 19:16
She was wearing a towel, so I thought she was busy.

From my experience, wearing the towel usually indicates that a girl is taken. I was initially hesitant to approach her for that reason. It turned out she was not reserved at the moment. I asked her what her name is and if she wanted to go to the room. Her name is Kelly (Nelly? She looked and smelled great LOL. Immediately, she started kissing .Thanks for the report and the tip on Kelly. I am curious about your comment about the towel. I have been to the FKK several times and I had no idea that this was a thing.

Sirioja
09-07-19, 21:04
Bab Elsdorf is normal club, one of the very rare real FKK in NRW, girls are more naked than at Oase or Sharks, with good foods and wellness, outside swimming pool, when Arabella is low level AO club. Kelly is nice, unfortunately her face skin lost freshness compare to end of last year.

Akibono
09-08-19, 03:41
FUS visited Babylon on a Monday, which is invariably the day with the lowest attendance in Babylon. Furthermore, it is mainly the unattractive ones who turn up on Mondays in the hope of ensnaring visitors when there is no competition. I normally visit Babylon on Thursdays when the attendance of girls is usually full, and I avoid Fridays when it is usually flooded with men.

Babylon is the only major FKK I know of that publishes its expected attendance list online. I have just checked this week's list. Starting from Monday 22/7 to Sunday 28/7 the expected numbers are: 10, 21, 36, 35, 37, 34, 23.

Monday and Tuesday are past, so the 10 and 21 are confirmed numbers. The rest are subject to change.

In Babylon, most girls would have arrived by 2 pm, so the 'peak' starts then.Where do I find the list of girls? Thanks.

Optimist
09-08-19, 20:07
Akibono. I think the club has very recently stopped having the rota and pictures. If I am wrong, maybe somebody else will correct me.

BigBuddy69
09-08-19, 20:30
It's still at https://www.saunaclubs.org/saunaclub-forum/awl.

Sirioja
09-08-19, 20:41
Akibono. I think the club has very recently stopped having the rota and pictures. If I am wrong, maybe somebody else will correct me.No, still tagesplan for Bab, but not on their site, but on sauna. Org.

TankTank123
09-08-19, 23:28
Where do I find the list of girls? Thanks.As I had reported in the year the new law took effect, to distance it from Babylon management, the rota was shifted to another website purportedly to indicate where girls are working in various clubs; but actually covering only Babylon.

To find it, go to the official Babylon website, scroll to the absolute bottom where there is faint text over black background. There you will find a line listing 2 'German speaking forums'. Choose the first one on the left. After entering that website, at the top tab, press GPL to get the rota.

I have just checked and confirmed it is still there. It was 90% accurate when I visited Babylon last month. Some girls change plans and do not turn up.

Member #4654
09-17-19, 03:42
Is Babylon a daytime club like Goldentime? I am planning a trip there and was thinking of Babylon followed by Samya or Mondial.

Sirioja
09-17-19, 16:50
Is Babylon a daytime club like Goldentime? I am planning a trip there and was thinking of Babylon followed by Samya or Mondial.Yes, day club with full casting around 2/3 pm. Entry 70. Bab close at midnight /1 am.

Ctytek
09-20-19, 21:16
The May-1 entrance increase to 70 euros killed this club. The place was basically dead on what should have normally been a busy Friday afternoon. The lineup is very limited now. Basically just the same handful of old-timer girls who have worked there for several years. It seemed like number of men visiting had dropped off significantly also. The whole atmosphere was slow and almost depressing.

From talking to a few regulars. The club is in downward tailspin, as many girls have left and they can't seem to recruit new ones. With a number of other clubs in the area charging 30-50 euro entry. It seems like Babylon has priced themselves out of the market.

Maxime
09-25-19, 18:19
Most regulars (like me) have avoided the club the last few months. Not only the price increase, but mainly because of decreasing quality (and quantity) of the lineup. Mostly be material present nowadays (few exceptions aside), also the food is getting worse and worse. Real pity since line up and food where the only (but very important) USPs of this small club.

Even worse: the "jackstraw" is too stubern to take advice to improve seriously and in addition is largest consumer of the third USP of this club (Free Belgian Beer).

Maxime
09-28-19, 14:58
Most regulars (like me) have avoided the club the last few months. Not only the price increase, but mainly because of decreasing quality (and quantity) of the lineup. Mostly lower, B-material present nowadays (few exceptions aside), also the food is getting worse and worse. Real pity since line up and food where the only (but very important) USPs of this small club.

Even worse: the "jackstraw" is too stubern to take advice to improve seriously and in addition is largest consumer of the third USP of this club (Free Belgian Beer).In a desperate event to increase the number of paying customers, they now came up with this:

"Aktuell sieht es danach aus, dass es ab Montag eine neue Preisstruktur I'm Babylon geben wird. Demnach wird der Eintrittspreis an die Länge des Aufenthalts gekoppelt.

60 Minuten 40 Euro.

2 Stunden 50 Euro.

4 Stunden 60 Euro.

Tageskarte 70 Euro (11. Besuch Frei: 63 Euro).

So from Monday (October) onwards. In fact nothing changes, only two additional price options depending on the length of your stay: 2 hours for 50 euro, 4 hours for 60 euro (the other options did already exist).

Can not imagine this will change anything, better have more and better girls present, and have strict service rules again (like eg in Globe) than the men will come and will pay whatever to come in!

BigBuddy69
09-28-19, 16:07
No one is going to stay 60 minutes that's ridiculous. It means that you have to make only a 30 min session, with one of the first girls you find, you don't eat and you have to shower quickly.

Pistons
09-28-19, 19:19
In a desperate event to increase the number of paying customers, they now came up with this:

"Aktuell sieht es danach aus, dass es ab Montag eine neue Preisstruktur I'm Babylon geben wird. Demnach wird der Eintrittspreis an die Lnge des Aufenthalts gekoppelt.

60 Minuten 40 Euro.

2 Stunden 50 Euro.

4 Stunden 60 Euro.

Tageskarte 70 Euro (11. Besuch Frei: 63 Euro).

So from Monday (October) onwards. In fact nothing changes, only two additional price options depending on the length of your stay: 2 hours for 50 euro, 4 hours for 60 euro (the other options did already exist).

Can not imagine this will change anything, better have more and better girls present, and have strict service rules again (like eg in Globe) than the men will come and will pay whatever to come in!Girls are going to hate this pricing structure, as it incentives short stays where guys leave after 1 or 2 rooms. Not the 3 or 4 room dudes like myself. Now I do assume that we pay afterwards, and not in advance with this pricing. Otherwise they may be shooting themselves in the foot here.

70 e all day is taxing, and in my mind would require a pretty impressive lineup. Now I have never been to Babylon myself. Only know a few girls from other clubs who has moved there, or came from there. But to the lot of you who has been there, how impressive is the lineup? And which other club would you say has the most comparable lineup?

Sirioja
09-28-19, 19:50
Sad because club was really improved with new jacuzzi and swimming pool. Eddy is really welcoming, playing ski for me when I m not a regular. Claire moved to 6.

ThatGuy23
09-29-19, 00:55
Girls are going to hate this pricing structure, as it incentives short stays where guys leave after 1 or 2 rooms. Not the 3 or 4 room dudes like myself. Now I do assume that we pay afterwards, and not in advance with this pricing. Otherwise they may be shooting themselves in the foot here.

70 e all day is taxing, and in my mind would require a pretty impressive lineup. Now I have never been to Babylon myself. Only know a few girls from other clubs who has moved there, or came from there. But to the lot of you who has been there, how impressive is the lineup? And which other club would you say has the most comparable lineup?Only been once. Honestly, not that impressive, but was still able to find a couple girls worth spending time with. But one of those two girls I saw the very next week at Sharks.

Babylon also had the oldest FKK "girl" I had ever seen.

Sirioja
09-29-19, 11:06
Girls are going to hate this pricing structure, as it incentives short stays where guys leave after 1 or 2 rooms. Not the 3 or 4 room dudes like myself. Now I do assume that we pay afterwards, and not in advance with this pricing. Otherwise they may be shooting themselves in the foot here.

70 e all day is taxing, and in my mind would require a pretty impressive lineup. Now I have never been to Babylon myself. Only know a few girls from other clubs who has moved there, or came from there. But to the lot of you who has been there, how impressive is the lineup? And which other club would you say has the most comparable lineup?Some high level girls like Barbi and Kity who are friends worked at Bab, before becoming FKK land superstars. Kelli was fresh GFE when she started. There was also a German team with Mikaela, maybe now at GT? Daisy and a small blond.

Sirioja
09-29-19, 17:03
Only been once. Honestly, not that impressive, but was still able to find a couple girls worth spending time with. But one of those two girls I saw the very next week at Sharks.

Babylon also had the oldest FKK "girl" I had ever seen.Older than Sylvana at Sharks, still hunting since 11 am to 4 am, marathon super woman seen on this Friday.

Sirioja
09-29-19, 20:56
Some high level girls like Barbi and Kity who are friends worked at Bab, before becoming FKK land superstars. Kelli was fresh GFE when she started. There was also a German team with Mikaela, maybe now at GT? Daisy and a small blond.Mikaela still at Bab with small blond Tamara.

Maxime
10-01-19, 14:18
The last year price went up and quality (of the girls AND the food) went down dramatically. Not worth the money anymore I am afraid. Few gems still there, but not enough to have 3-5 sessions on a visit (that was very easy few years ago there). Pity but true.

FuckedUpSwede
12-07-19, 23:36
Went to Babylon with my friend today with fear of meeting a empty run down facility and the owner crying behind the counter.

But no, it was as good as the first time I went there. German schlager on high volume from the sound system, owner standing behind the bar hugging a bottle of wine with a grin on his face, happy mongers eating and drinking, girls on the couches spreading their legs for good view when you eat your tasty schnitzel. Made me burst out in laughter and could not stop! Sehr gut!

Had first session with Angela.

I have planned a session with her for a long time but she was always busy. A bit dissapointing, probably because she had a flu. I will probably get a flu in my schnabel, has happened before.

Had some food, steam sauna (not as hot as Samya) and jacuzzi. Relaxed a bit in the outside cold and looked at the cloudy sky.

Session 2, Ella.

Only girl I have had 2 sessions with at Babylon. She really checks all the boxes for me, god damn how she makes me horny! Only blowjob, in the kino as usual.

My friend had a session with the moldavian girl with the gun tatoo on her leg, do not remember her name. Fucked her this summer. She really knows how to use her body, my friend was impessed and happy!

Some more food, a beer and a coke and off we go to party town no 1 Cologne! Over and out.

Chongmal
12-08-19, 00:44
Went to Babylon with my friend today with fear of meeting a empty run down facility and the owner crying behind the counter.Did you think that the entry price is worth it? To me, the loungers are nice, rooms are so so, ladies nothing special and the better ones are nearly impossible to catch and I hate the food area between the lockers and bar. I don't see the value in the cost increase unless every 7th entry is free.

Ludacris775
12-08-19, 02:27
Did you think that the entry price is worth it? To me, the loungers are nice, rooms are so so, ladies nothing special and the better ones are nearly mpossible to catch and I hate the food area between the lockers and bar. I don't see the value in the cost increase unless every 7th entry is free.I may not have returned to Babylon if it wasn't for Kelly. Had a real good time with that girl. Otherwise, I would say the club wasn't that special and the high entry fee isn't justified.

FuckedUpSwede
12-08-19, 02:52
Did you think that the entry price is worth it.Short answer: yes.

Motivation: I love the NRW area for different reasons, it is the most liberal area in Germany. Babylon is the only club in this area, to my knowledge, where the girls are totally nude. I like nude girls. The service level from the girls are high, the mongers are mainly from Holland, Belgium and Germany, the facilities are clean and nice, the food is german, the music sets me in a good mode, there is a good porn kino and the films are of good quality, the tap beer is free. Small things but I just plainly love the athmosphere of this place. I do not really care about 20 euro more or less for entrance.

If you plan only to fuck and not care about food and facilities of course there are cheaper alternatives. I do not go here when I just have a couple of hours to spend.

By the way, something seriously bad has happened to the door of this place. Anyone know the story?

TheRugdr
12-08-19, 03:39
Did you think that the entry price is worth it? To me, the loungers are nice, rooms are so so, ladies nothing special and the better ones are nearly impossible to catch and I hate the food area between the lockers and bar. I don't see the value in the cost increase unless every 7th entry is free.I agree. Oftentimes the best girls are booked. I roomed with Kellie twice on her first day working there, and was unable to get a room with her during future visits. I don't like the food location either. I don't like that they are super stingy with towels and don't have a robe option.

MD0344
12-08-19, 04:01
By the way, something seriously bad has happened to the door of this place. Anyone know the story?They had a fire in the basement during the night a few days ago. The door has been forced by the fire brigade to enter quickly.

MD0344
12-08-19, 04:07
Went to Babylon.. had a session with the moldavian girl with the gun tatoo on her leg, do not remember her name.He wants to the room with Antonia. She is half Romanian, half Russian and she lived in Moldavia in her young age.

Kuni042
12-08-19, 18:32
I am wondering if this club deserves a visit. For my german lady preference, I have GT. For my big boob fetish I have Club Penelope (Castrop-Rauxel), but still hunting for alternatives.

FuckedUpSwede
12-09-19, 19:11
They had a fire in the basement during the night a few days ago. The door has been forced by the fire brigade to enter quickly.Aha, I did not see any fire damage in the basement? I had to use the lockers there since the place was packed.

There was a really angry monger at Babylon this summer when I slept over in the "hotel". He went berserk and started hitting cars outside. I was a bit worried he had returned!

"Return of the angry monger" sounds like a cheap horror movie.

Sirioja
12-09-19, 20:11
I am wondering if this club deserves a visit. For my german lady preference, I have GT. For my big boob fetish I have Club Penelope (Castrop-Rauxel), but still hunting for alternatives.Barbi with huge basket balls silicon balloons. There were some Germans: Mikaela, Tamara, Daisy, but small natural tits and I don t know why, but I think 2 former were fired, they did hide for drug.

For German with big silicon balloons, Nika at Oase.

I never saw Kelli being full busy.

Downandup
12-09-19, 20:56
Aha, I did not see any fire damage in the basement? I had to use the lockers there since the place was packed.It was a washing machine or dryer that caught fire so it may have been contained.

Maxime
12-15-19, 17:39
I am wondering if this club deserves a visit. For my german lady preference, I have GT. For my big boob fetish I have Club Penelope (Castrop-Rauxel), but still hunting for alternatives.Several German girls now here: Vivien (optics even below RTC level.), Sabrina (ex DV, looks good, but distant), Aurelie (ex Finca, porno looks and service, will fullfil both your fetishes), Mina (also ex Finca, funny) and maybe more? Tattoo girl Sena (also ex-Finca) was there for few days, but "could not get along with the Chef" and left already.

Sirioja
12-15-19, 18:41
Isn't Barbi with basketball balloons silicon German?

What happened with Germans Mikaela and Tamara? Even small tits.

Maxime
12-18-19, 20:35
Isn't Barbi with basketball balloons silicon German?

What happened with Germans Mikaela and Tamara? Even small tits.Barbi is German, but already long time gone. Also Michaela and Tamara are already gone for a while, for the same reason ("could not get along with the Chef"................you see the trend?

MD0344
12-29-19, 05:05
Babylon also had the oldest FKK "girl" I had ever seen.Who was it? Kashida?

Ludacris775
01-03-20, 20:27
Barbi with huge basket balls silicon balloons. There were some Germans: Mikaela, Tamara, Daisy, but small natural tits and I don t know why, but I think 2 former were fired, they did hide for drug.

For German with big silicon balloons, Nika at Oase.

I never saw Kelli being full busy.Hi TheRudger,

Like Sirioja I did not see Kelly being constantly unavailable when I was there, though it did seem like she was one of the most popular girls in Babylon. It was not difficult to have repeat sessions with her over multiple days. Maybe the time of year makes a difference.

Tjohoo
01-04-20, 10:33
Who was it? Kashida?"Thatguy23" wrote the report in September and if I remember correct the famous Sylviana worked in the club late summer / early fall.

T.

Kuni042
01-15-20, 22:10
LOL. So true. I guess they just want to make the 2 HR look like a bargain.


No one is going to stay 60 minutes that's ridiculous. It means that you have to make only a 30 min session, with one of the first girls you find, you don't eat and you have to shower quickly.

Fifino68
01-26-20, 08:02
I was there yesterday after having been to Samya the night before. The place is nicer, and cleaner, at least there is a proper pool and sauna etc, but the girls! It looked like a collection of the ugliest girls they could find, out of 15 girls or so there was a 7, a couple of 6, and the rest was a lot of 3 and 4 with a few 1's which made me wonder who in the world would ever fuck them. Also, there were quite a few guys, at one point the ratio was about 1:1 which made it even more ridiculous as the guys were sitting there not choosing any girls and the girls were desperate to be chosen. It's only the second time in my life that I leave without having done anything, I lost 60 euros but better than losing 110 for a lousy fuck. Only, I wish someone on this forum had told me about the terrible quality of girls in this place.

Sirioja
01-26-20, 21:47
I was there yesterday after having been to Samya the night before. The place is nicer, and cleaner, at least there is a proper pool and sauna etc, but the girls! It looked like a collection of the ugliest girls they could find, out of 15 girls or so there was a 7, a couple of 6, and the rest was a lot of 3 and 4 with a few 1's which made me wonder who in the world would ever fuck them. Also, there were quite a few guys, at one point the ratio was about 1:1 which made it even more ridiculous as the guys were sitting there not choosing any girls and the girls were desperate to be chosen. It's only the second time in my life that I leave without having done anything, I lost 60 euros but better than losing 110 for a lousy fuck. Only, I wish someone on this forum had told me about the terrible quality of girls in this place.Isn't entry 70? Some quite pretty girls.

Sirioja
01-27-20, 08:13
Isn't entry 70? Some quite pretty girls.Kelli when fresh, Dolli, Anna if still there, are quite pretty. Some pretty ones worked at Bab.

Kalle Kula
09-14-20, 08:55
I wonder if the lineup will be the same or if many girls are gone.

https://www.saunaclubs.org/threads/das-babylon-%C3%B6ffnet-seine-tore.6698/

Clodius1
09-14-20, 18:29
I wonder if the lineup will be the same or if many girls are gone.

https://www.saunaclubs.org/threads/das-babylon-%C3%B6ffnet-seine-tore.6698/That is good news. Glad Babs survived the China flu, one of my fav clubs. Small club, good wellness, good food, good ice bears, and plenty of eye candy. Prost!

ExpatLover
09-14-20, 18:58
EL: may be you have to change your glasses or I have to change, this FKK is really not at the level, everything looks old and the cleaning is not the best, the rooms are dark and also not so clean, the food is average, the sauna so so, yes sometimes some really nice and fresh natural girls there.

Clodius1
09-15-20, 02:22
EL: may be you have to change your glasses or I have to change, this FKK is really not at the level, everything looks old and the cleaning is not the best, the rooms are dark and also not so clean, the food is average, the sauna so so, yes sometimes some really nice and fresh natural girls there.Yes, Babs Elsdorf is def refreshing with good selection of PYTs compared to tired crew at GT. Clubs seems clean to me, but maybe my eyes were overwhelmed by the female optics LOL.

BigBuddy69
09-15-20, 06:38
The club is clean and freshly renovated, grumpy troll probably never visited it (or 15 years ago) and he's doing some copy-paste with the spam he's writing everywhere (no go for me, overfucked prostitutes, blah blah blah). It's a little bit pathetic to have a life that is so empty.

Sirioja
09-15-20, 18:36
EL: may be you have to change your glasses or I have to change, this FKK is really not at the level, everything looks old and the cleaning is not the best, the rooms are dark and also not so clean, the food is average, the sauna so so, yes sometimes some really nice and fresh natural girls there.When did you really visit Bab which was really improved for wellness with big jacuzzi, garden with swimming pool. Not dirty place, room 1 with heart above head of bed and window, is good for love. Friendly, welcoming boss. Just difficult for me to find attractive girls, even there were at Bab, like Romanian Barbi and her friend Romanian Angel who became Hungarian Kity at GT because of GT low level clients who don t like Romanians, but Barbi. Ro was busy at GT. Good luck for Eddy for reopening.

The Cane
09-15-20, 20:06
The club is clean and freshly renovated, grumpy troll probably never visited it (or 15 years ago) and he's doing some copy-paste with the spam he's writing everywhere (no go for me, overfucked prostitutes, blah blah blah). It's a little bit pathetic to have a life that is so empty.The facilities were in good condition when I went. Zero problems in this regard with respect to this club.

PayForIt
09-15-20, 23:24
The facilities were in good condition when I went. Zero problems in this regard with respect to this club.So I am likely to have one night only in Cologne next week. I was thinking to head back to Samya, but the reports on this club having been renovated etc have made me wonder.

From experienced members to these forums, I pray: tell: which club if you only had one good afternoon / evening? Mondial? Samya? Babylon? I tend to prefer the slightly larger clubs, love the professional massage in between sessions and pool if operational. But more important than all of course is the LU. Whilst I don't expect any (or many) to be able to compare current LUs given the clubs are only just opening, I'm interested to know from those who have attended in the past year which club they'the visit given the choice of any in Cologne for one night. Thanks in anticipation.

The Cane
09-16-20, 01:00
So I am likely to have one night only in Cologne next week. I was thinking to head back to Samya, but the reports on this club having been renovated etc have made me wonder.

From experienced members to these forums, I pray: tell: which club if you only had one good afternoon / evening? Mondial? Samya? Babylon? I tend to prefer the slightly larger clubs, love the professional massage in between sessions and pool if operational. But more important than all of course is the LU. Whilst I don't expect any (or many) to be able to compare current LUs given the clubs are only just opening, I'm interested to know from those who have attended in the past year which club they would visit given the choice of any in Cologne for one night. Thanks in anticipation.My order of preference would be:

1. Samya (met one of hottest Romanian girls I have ever been with here named Raissa).

2. Mondial (close second as there were some hot tutes at this place and I liked the vibe).

3. Babylon (facilities were good but I overwhelmingly preferred the talent at the other two clubs).

Smoke Light
09-16-20, 03:59
PayForIt,

I cannot compare other clubs, only hearsay from girls currently working in Samya. Sofas in the main bar area are marked for 1.5 meter distance. When sitted, you can take the mask off. Otherwise masks anytime when walking. No dj, no dancing on stage, music less loud. Rooms rules are the same (no masks), BBBJ could cost you extra. The girls already making ton of money starting last Friday, room after room, plenty of guys for them to pick, they all look happy when we speak. Club open till 5 in the morning like before the pandemic, LU greatly improves around 20:00. Some girls even say they let themselves have one or two orgasms in rooms with younger good looking guys. In general, male attendance in Samya shifted to younger age. Sunday was less guys, but same amount of girls. The girls want to make as much money as possible before compatriots return from lovely Romania. I didn't ask about the massus, but sauna operational. Plastic "walls" around tables in the restaurant, food is brought to the table. Hope others can write about other clubs for comparison. Best of luck!

Sirioja
09-16-20, 09:32
So I am likely to have one night only in Cologne next week. I was thinking to head back to Samya, but the reports on this club having been renovated etc have made me wonder.

From experienced members to these forums, I pray: tell: which club if you only had one good afternoon / evening? Mondial? Samya? Babylon? I tend to prefer the slightly larger clubs, love the professional massage in between sessions and pool if operational. But more important than all of course is the LU. Whilst I don't expect any (or many) to be able to compare current LUs given the clubs are only just opening, I'm interested to know from those who have attended in the past year which club they'the visit given the choice of any in Cologne for one night. Thanks in anticipation.Not only around Koln, but in NRW, Samya is the most interesting for looks if You love Romanian beauties, but You have to work more at Samya to get good from girls. Bab can t compete for looks, nor anymore LR and I think GT, when Samya have full casting, maybe why Katea moved to GT where she is above for look, when was not anymore at Samya after 4 years. Most of girls usually return to Samya, like Francesca, Clara. Just wish my woman types will return, when I made big mistake to go to a cute but little girl I already noticed when I arrived on parking. Full natural beauty, but with my behavior, after few caresses on her, she started asking: You like me? We can speak, relax together, when she speaks only few English, but starting to speak in Romanian when I told her I wanted sex. Natural BJ but no high skill, I stopped fucking because I didn't know if hurting her or not, so I put off condom and was on the edge of the room at 25 mn. Then she claimed we were for 40 mn. I didn't answer but took paper on desk, making read to Aida on desk and asking why little girl asked me for 40 mn when she was not able to do anything for sex. They took her, I told them I would pay her, it was my mistake to go with her, little girls are not able for me, I need women, but exceptional Samya staff gave me back with free entry. Then I decided to try again Tina after about 5 years, I was surprised by her great welcome, woman look except tattoo on arm, but not free in mind for love in bed. You find girls for this? She asked. Even at Samya where some really improved and Katea was high level in bed. But as I answered: I never asked any WG if she loves me, when they ask if you love them, then it s complicated, not to answer not to kill the room, or if she wants to live with me or marry me, not even to meet outside, because not my image of my woman in real life, I never answered about any invitation to go to Romania. Only had Russian nights with escorts in Paris. We just fit for fucking when I think she really felt me inside, I asked her if hurting? No. I asked to change for doggy, oh no she answered, but like most of girls, she trust me and we went for doggy with no hurting, just breathing loudly. Not for sex like at home together, but we can stay friends. But had 4/5 girls for sex like at home at Samya, just have to choose woman types who are also woman in mind, but for sure, not little girls even they can be pretty, but not woman enough in mind and little girl vagina. I remember I couldn't even full enter in Luana LR when she started at LR on 2016, never thought to repeat, even she was friendly and honest, but we didn't fit for size. Never had such problem in real life when women usually seem to prefer to feel something inside them.

PayForIt
09-17-20, 00:09
For the responses. I had figured on Samya but the unanimous confirmations make the decision easy.

Not sure I love the sound of the "young" male audience but we will give it a go and if poor by 9 pm will jump a cab to Mondial given Cane's comments. Many thanks and will report.

The Cane
09-17-20, 01:41
For the responses. I had figured on Samya but the unanimous confirmations make the decision easy.

Not sure I love the sound of the "young" male audience but we will give it a go and if poor by 9 pm will jump a cab to Mondial given Cane's comments. Many thanks and will report.The other thing is that it's a hell of a haul to get to Babylon from city center where I was. I think you have the right plan. Start at Samya. And if you're not feeling it, then head to Mondial. You lucky dog you! Us yanks are still blockaded out of Europe! Why? We helped save it. Twice! Let me in!

Sirioja
09-17-20, 07:10
For the responses. I had figured on Samya but the unanimous confirmations make the decision easy.

Not sure I love the sound of the "young" male audience but we will give it a go and if poor by 9 pm will jump a cab to Mondial given Cane's comments. Many thanks and will report.Samya is very quiet for reopening, no bad DJ, no loud manele, not many Turkish, and it was Saturday night, but not fever because staff take your temperature on entry.

JoeyFeliney
02-23-21, 15:22
Do the ladies have to share the locker / changing rooms so you can have the fantasy come true where yo get to walk into the girls changing rooms and they won't be able to kick you out and have to don't continue to undress and lower their panties as you watch or let your assist them and maybe continue to getting fingers oral and sex in the changing room, assist them in the shower. If so is there a shift change (when covid is over of course) when you can turn up as they queue up in their civilian clothes getting to mentally undress them before following them into the changing room for the unwrapping?

Yes everyone is going to get naked, but this would double the fun like unwrapping the pressies and the fantasy you had since being in teens etc.

Palcon
02-23-21, 18:17
Do the ladies have to share the locker / changing rooms so you can have the fantasy come true where yo get to walk into the girls changing rooms and they won't be able to kick you out and have to don't continue to undress and lower their panties as you watch or let your assist them and maybe continue to getting fingers oral and sex in the changing room, assist them in the shower. If so is there a shift change (when covid is over of course) when you can turn up as they queue up in their civilian clothes getting to mentally undress them before following them into the changing room for the unwrapping?

Yes everyone is going to get naked, but this would double the fun like unwrapping the pressies and the fantasy you had since being in teens etc.I've only encountered shared lockers at GT.

Sirioja
02-23-21, 21:50
At Bab, if you have a locker downstairs, you can be with girls, and you can also take shower downstairs with girls. Can also take shower with girls upstairs at Gold, at History Liestal, at Globe, at GT Vienna.

ExpatLover
02-23-21, 22:01
Do the ladies have to share the locker / changing rooms so you can have the fantasy come true where yo get to walk into the girls changing rooms and they won't be able to kick you out and have to don't continue to undress and lower their panties as you watch or let your assist them and maybe continue to getting fingers oral and sex in the changing room, assist them in the shower. If so is there a shift change (when covid is over of course) when you can turn up as they queue up in their civilian clothes getting to mentally undress them before following them into the changing room for the unwrapping?

Yes everyone is going to get naked, but this would double the fun like unwrapping the pressies and the fantasy you had since being in teens etc.When Oase was under renovation several years back, we were sharing the changing room with the girls, you could see them arriving, shaving, make up. Also in GT Vienna you share the showers with the girls. For me it is not really exciting to see the girls shaving, peeing.

BigBuddy69
02-23-21, 23:21
I've only encountered shared lockers at GT.And also in Park sauna residenz maybe, no?

Sirioja
02-24-21, 08:21
When Oase was under renovation several years back, we were sharing the changing room with the girls, you could see them arriving, shaving, make up. Also in GT Vienna you share the showers with the girls. For me it is not really exciting to see the girls shaving, peeing.I love looking at girls preparing, shaving, washing breasts and pussy, erotic to warm up desire, much more enjoyable than small dicks still up under Viagra. Not interested by make up when some girls need 1 hour to make their hair and make up, when a bad guy like me usually change their hair and even sometimes their eyes make up, and from my manners to touch them, they usually look me with round eyes but let me do, also touching and kissing their face, I usually start like this, to create a dream for my eyes, to motivate my desire to work to play my game, then listening to girls reactions and adapting, some girls showing their sensitive spots, some helping rubbing clit on tongue to finish. Erotism and sensuality are so much more enjoyable than porn.

ExpatLover
02-24-21, 19:06
I love looking at girls preparing, shaving, washing breasts and pussy, erotic to warm up desire, much more enjoyable than small dicks still up under Viagra. Not interested by make up when some girls need 1 hour to make their hair and make up, when a bad guy like me usually change their hair and even sometimes their eyes make up, and from my manners to touch them, they usually look me with round eyes but let me do, also touching and kissing their face, I usually start like this, to create a dream for my eyes, to motivate my desire to work to play my game, then listening to girls reactions and adapting, some girls showing their sensitive spots, some helping rubbing clit on tongue to finish. Erotism and sensuality are so much more enjoyable than porn.More and more guys are showering with pants, you know that kind of guy, big car, big muscles but can not be naked under the shower, 10 years back you could never see this but the world is changing, for better remains a question mark.

Sirioja
02-24-21, 23:17
More and more guys are showering with pants, you know that kind of guy, big car, big muscles but can not be naked under the shower, 10 years back you could never see this but the world is changing, for better remains a question mark.With my compact car cleaning German autobahns, because better for dynamic, I m proud of my tool under shower, even without being still up, when don't need viagra after 50, and I'm also proud of my tool, fit firm body, face and hair in front of girls, full self confidence. I wonder how they wash with pants, some having socks, or casquet, or sunglasses in a dark brothel, when I most often don't put sunglasses when skiing above 3000 meters high.

Rocky V
05-28-21, 18:17
This club has announced it may reopen from 7 June: https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/.

Sirioja
05-29-21, 06:05
This club has announced it may reopen from 7 June: https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/.Brothels will need to wait for allowance. Information to confirm but French may not even need to test to go for 1 day, when UK have to quarantine 15 days for Germany and France.

Maxime
05-29-21, 07:23
This club has announced it may reopen from 7 June: https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/.Good to know! The "number" in the regio is now at 44,4/100 K citizens, and should be below 35/100 K, probably next week it falls below this threshold!

Downandup
05-29-21, 09:49
Good to know! The "number" in the regio is now at 44,4/100 K citizens, and should be below 35/100 K, probably next week it falls below this threshold!The latest RKI dashboard shows 37.5 for the country and 41.6 for NRW so now it has to drop below 35 and stay that way for a week. That means that it could happen if the state allows brothels and such to open at the same time as other places.

I thought that September was going to be unlikely after so many false starts around Europe, I am happy if this turns out to be true, by September it's very likely that I will be able to head over.

Maxime
05-29-21, 10:41
The latest RKI dashboard shows 37.5 for the country and 41.6 for NRW so now it has to drop below 35 and stay that way for a week. That means that it could happen if the state allows brothels and such to open at the same time as other places.

I thought that September was going to be unlikely after so many false starts around Europe, I am happy if this turns out to be true, by September it's very likely that I will be able to head over.I thought they look at this number per Kreis (region), therefore several clubs will re-open next week (in Kreis Wesel, etc).

But anyway good that it slowly will happen now!

Downandup
05-29-21, 11:05
I thought they look at this number per Kreis (region), therefore several clubs will re-open next week (in Kreis Wesel, etc).

But anyway good that it slowly will happen now!You are correct, I was not aware of this until today. https://www.land.nrw/de/pressemitteilung/mit-neuen-regelungen-der-coronaschutzverordnung-zeigt-die-landesregierung-klare Brothels in regions are allowed to open with testing when the rate drops below 35.

Maxime
06-01-21, 11:32
I thought they look at this number per Kreis (region), therefore several clubs will re-open next week (in Kreis Wesel, etc).

But anyway good that it slowly will happen now!Beware however that the owner again thinks it is a good idea to increase entrance prices (+5 euro, and +40 euro for men who have their birthday!

See: https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/.

Also strong rumour is the prices of the girls will be increased. Interesting to see if number of visitors will decrease again significantly like last year...........

BigBuddy69
06-01-21, 13:18
It would be totally suicidal to increase the price of the half-hour considering the economic crisis coming.

But well, some people are not always reasonable.

Mursenary
06-01-21, 18:43
It would be totally suicidal to increase the price of the half-hour considering the economic crisis coming.

But well, some people are not always reasonable.I wonder how it is in Europe compared to the US. Here, the average middle class has more money in their bank accounts prior to 2020 (I guess due to the stimulus money and lack of places to spend money). Average savings rates nearly doubled in 2020. But purchasing power has declined. Prices here have generally gone up in most sectors. What's it like in Europe?

Sirioja
06-01-21, 22:14
Beware however that the owner again thinks it is a good idea to increase entrance prices (+5 euro, and +40 euro for men who have their birthday!

See: https://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/.

Also strong rumour is the prices of the girls will be increased. Interesting to see if number of visitors will decrease again significantly like last year...........Eddy should increase for painful balls rush, but Swiss clubs offer discount.

Mechelen
06-02-21, 00:18
I wonder how it is in Europe compared to the US. Here, the average middle class has more money in their bank accounts prior to 2020 (I guess due to the stimulus money and lack of places to spend money). Average savings rates nearly doubled in 2020. But purchasing power has declined. Prices here have generally gone up in most sectors. What's it like in Europe?Individual people did not get any stimulus money in Europe. Most employees still have their job but many small businesses like cafés, restaurants and event-companies are about to go bankrupt.

And yes, prices will go up.

Sirioja
06-02-21, 05:33
Individual people did not get any stimulus money in Europe. Most employees still have their job but many small businesses like cafs, restaurants and event-companies are about to go bankrupt.

And yes, prices will go up.Many people lost job in Europe, when France paid many people who couldn't work because their work was closed. In rich small Switzerland, at least 5 clubs propose discount offers, even when they were the only open. After painful balls rush, I don t think brothels will be so crowded, because many guys don't like to have to give data, so, less Balkanians who became quite big part of business. QR code will also not help for business and would be funny to see brothels controlling QR code.

ExpatLover
06-02-21, 06:13
I wonder how it is in Europe compared to the US. Here, the average middle class has more money in their bank accounts prior to 2020 (I guess due to the stimulus money and lack of places to spend money). Average savings rates nearly doubled in 2020. But purchasing power has declined. Prices here have generally gone up in most sectors. What's it like in Europe?I think also in the US the situation is quite different between a highly paid software engineer living on the west coast or a retired guy in Florida or a farmer from Arizona or a single mum with 2 children in NY, so it is the same in Europe. In none competitive economies like France, Italy, Spain the prices are facing strong inflation but this is not true in Germany or eastern Europe. The crisis is bringing big changes like people selling the apartments in the city centres to buy a house outside the cities, home working means also less travel. In March 20 I invested strongly on the stock market with very good results 1 year later, crisis always are bringing opportunities. My real-estate investment from 2018 has triple the value, I am not desperately waiting the reopening of the FKK to fuck, sex is not forbidden and I would say for those who are not so stupid, a bit attractive and flexible the opportunities are like on the stock market or real-estate very important at least for me.

Maxime
06-16-21, 06:11
Did re-open yesterday with higher entrance price (75 Euro for full day) and higher room rates (60430), not much going on (approx 10-14 girls), but ok, it was first day. Let's see what happens, but I hear from many regulars they will avoid since better AND cheaper alternatives are around.

SpermBirds
06-21-21, 13:33
According to reports in several for a the extra-pricing has been moved up as well. 35 Euro instead of 25, no idea is the price for anal has doubled as well. This club is becoming more and more overpriced in the NRW-area. Line-up of 15 girls approximately during the first week, all Rumanians. Ridiculous pricing for what's being offered.

Sirioja
06-22-21, 20:37
Kity ex Angel. Ro and her big friend before her, Barbie came from, before moving and finishing at GT, Kity running away to YY.

TeFab456
06-22-21, 22:12
According to reports in several for a the extra-pricing has been moved up as well. 35 Euro instead of 25, no idea is the price for anal has doubled as well. This club is becoming more and more overpriced in the NRW-area. Line-up of 15 girls approximately during the first week, all Rumanians. Ridiculous pricing for what's being offered.35 for CIM?

Lanthano
06-22-21, 23:52
Did re-open yesterday with higher entrance price (75 Euro for full day) and higher room rates (60430), not much going on (approx 10-14 girls), but ok, it was first day. Let's see what happens, but I hear from many regulars they will avoid since better AND cheaper alternatives are around.Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases. Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.

I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.

McAdonis
06-23-21, 03:21
Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases.Unofficially I can definitely see the WGs in Hessen demanding more. Changing official rates, I am not sure that would be wise. From my standpoint, there is a lot of uncertainty regarding reopening, inflation, economy, whether customers will be scared off by tracking. Hessen is also more dependent on overseas mongers.


Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.The mongers should also be aware that many of the WGs need money and exercise some willpower. But that is probably asking too much.


I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.Hessen clientele will probably let the WGs get away with it.

BigBuddy69
06-23-21, 05:39
Don't forget that the girls need more our money than we need them. For most of them, their alternative is to go flip some burgers in Mac Donald's or stack the shelves in Lidl. It's rather obvious that if mongers keep on going to Babylon, the price increase will spread everywhere. Men were able to survive during the pandemic no, their balls didn't explode?

And for tefab, yes it's 35 euros now.

Sirioja
06-23-21, 06:53
Thank you for reporting. Curious whether the Hessen clubs when they reopen will have similar increases. Hope not, but the girls are aware plenty of guys have been saving up for the past year and can afford to spend more. Even I am tempted to budge a little after a year and an increase in means.

I know however that the increased competition as more girls arrive will keep some of the price increases in check as the months go by.With test asked, ID control and data to write, clubs are not so crowded, girls being hungry for business. At Samya Koln, entry still 50 with fifth for free, meaning entry 40 on average, and girls rate still 50. Got higher potential for sex than at GT or Globe, for this rate. High level girls usually don t speak about money and prefer to make regulars, a way to select girls. I usually don't repeat with upselling, even when they are good.

Mursenary
06-23-21, 20:08
Unofficially I can definitely see the WGs in Hessen demanding more. Changing official rates, I am not sure that would be wise. From my standpoint, there is a lot of uncertainty regarding reopening, inflation, economy, whether customers will be scared off by tracking. Hessen is also more dependent on overseas mongers.

The mongers should also be aware that many of the WGs need money and exercise some willpower. But that is probably asking too much.

Hessen clientele will probably let the WGs get away with it.I think your battle is going to be between maintaining smart / thrifty spending habits versus supply and demand. Maybe in NRW, where there many more blue collar workers, you may see that the basic economics is the same or maybe clients are in even worse financial situations. In an area like Hessen that has a lot of out of town money, you will see more white collar clients. From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.

Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.

Clodius1
06-24-21, 01:22
I think your battle is going to be between maintaining smart / thrifty spending habits versus supply and demand. Maybe in NRW, where there many more blue collar workers, you may see that the basic economics is the same or maybe clients are in even worse financial situations. In an area like Hessen that has a lot of out of town money, you will see more white collar clients. From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.

Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.What happens if the inflation rate in the US goes BSC but remains under control in the EU? How will this affect the exchange rate? If girls raise their rates, will it be a double whammy fur die Amerikaner?

McAdonis
06-24-21, 01:51
From my impression, white collar workers have been much less affected financially. With that, the fair market value of a session would naturally increase.Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.

When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?

When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.


Combine that with the fact that the girls will compare the 50 e session against this past year's 150 e per session regardless money made based on volume, I'm interested to see how this will play out.Yah that is why I believe the WGs will make attempts to increase prices over the next 90-180 days. If they are successful, then the prices will remain high. ACA Velbert tried the same from July 2017 to maybe November 2017, before returning back to normal prices. But like you said, that is a more remote, working class club.

Mursenary
06-24-21, 02:29
What happens if the inflation rate in the US goes BSC but remains under control in the EU? How will this affect the exchange rate? If girls raise their rates, will it be a double whammy fur die Amerikaner?That certainly would be a possible and unfortunate outcome for us Americans. Good thing I keep 9,999 euro in my TransferWise account. #ProTip.

Mursenary
06-24-21, 04:24
Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.

When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?

When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.
I think the point I'm making is that the Hessen clubs will have an elevated fair market value because fair market value is heavily influenced by the wealth of the region. With Hessen clubs being filled with more white collar international mongers who have largely acquired more wealth during the pandemic, the acceptable cost of Hessen mongering is in more danger of rising than NRW. Much like a Big Mac Meal in Zurich costing over 10 euro since that is the fair market value determined by the residence there, the price inflation in Hessen might dictate a higher fair market value due to the fatter wallets of the international mongers which may not be the case in NRW clubs often filled with local Blue collar and younger Turkish clientele.

Babylon specifically is not a young Turkish club. I believe many pensioners go there. Surely they have fatter wallets, having no place to spend it this past year. Perhaps they locals in that area will prop up those price hikes.

Sirioja
06-24-21, 07:27
Seeing a WG is a discretionary expense. Most of us on ISG see P6 as a necessity because we have our hardcore monger goggles on.

When the cost of cigarettes goes up, social smokers can use that as a convenient reason to quit or cut back significantly. But a chain smoker, who is chemically addicted, will consume at the same rate, despite prices increasing. Or let's say from age 25-35 your income tripled. Being a hardcore monger, we can assume that your mongering spend probably tripled (or at least doubled). But can the same be said about other hobbies that you are less passionate and enthusiastic about?

When the price of something goes up significantly, sometimes consumers respond by buying less. Back in 2016 at Sharks, there was the young Turkish guy who was there almost everyday. There was the guy Siri used to call "hermaphrodyte", and his Balkan-German best friend. Those three were always sitting near the Sharks money locker. By 2019, none of them were around. They didn't quit cold turkey, but it was gradual. I bumped into the Balkan maybe 2018. He told me he stopped attending because the WGs' attitudes got worse. I couldn't disagree with him. I asked him if he found another "favorite" club. He flatly said he didn't monger that much any more.

Yah that is why I believe the WGs will make attempts to increase prices over the next 90-180 days. If they are successful, then the prices will remain high. ACA Velbert tried the same from July 2017 to maybe November 2017, before returning back to normal prices. But like you said, that is a more remote, working class club.From my first experience, in the NRW biggest opened club with about 30/40 girls, even not on top for casting compare to what I knew, but no increasing for entry nor girls, girls being hungry for business, not crowded on a Friday night, many guys don t like to have to give their data. On 2020 reopening, when we were asked our data, Globe was not so crowded. Wish long time Oase girls won t return, when they fuck business there, when fresh Romanian blood need money from misery at home.

Maxime
06-24-21, 08:03
Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.

ExpatLover
06-24-21, 10:22
Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.I don't believe they will decrease the entry ticket price, they know they have a poor LU so better to take the money even the guy will not return. Summer was never the best time for the LU I don t believe it will be different this year, I guess even worse. As long there will be no big fairs in Germany we will not see some semi pro working girls entering the business. Those girls were always great opportunities for guys like me looking for fresh and natural beauties.

Mursenary
06-24-21, 13:56
Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.Maybe he's thinking the higher rare will attract more girls which will attract more clients. Hiking up the entry price without ensuring a better product first is an odd move though.

But in real estate, sometimes you charge higher rent in order to deter some tenets. This might be one way the owner is keeping the club filled with German clientele rather than the crowds seen in Samya and Mondial without having to implement GT's selective door policies.

Mursenary
06-24-21, 17:37
Since the re-opening and the low number of men (and girls) visiting, a small change has already been made: only first half hour will cost 60 euro, for 1 hour it will be 110 euro, etc (so +50 for every additional hour in the room). Only the guys who make (Very) long sessions will appreciate this a bit, but let's hope the owner also will lower the first half hour AND of course the crazy entrance fee of Euro 75.Just to clarify, guessing you mean +50 for every half hour after the first. If you mean 50/ HR after, then that would be surprisingly great news if true.

McAdonis
06-25-21, 01:16
I think the point I'm making is that the Hessen clubs will have an elevated fair market value because fair market value is heavily influenced by the wealth of the region. With Hessen clubs being filled with more white collar international mongers who have largely acquired more wealth during the pandemic, the acceptable cost of Hessen mongering is in more danger of rising than NRW. Much like a Big Mac Meal in Zurich costing over 10 euro since that is the fair market value determined by the residence there, the price inflation in Hessen might dictate a higher fair market value due to the fatter wallets of the international mongers which may not be the case in NRW clubs often filled with local Blue collar and younger Turkish clientele.Fair point about wealth of the region affecting prices. But the difference between Switzerland and German salaries is substantial $6261 versus $2957 (after tax per month). Whereas Hesse and NRW salaries are roughly the same €23943 and €22294 (per year).

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_states_by_household_income

I would liken it to the cost of alcohol. Overall consumption is probably roughly the same or slightly lower compared to twenty years ago, but my guess is a larger percentage of that consumption occurs inside homes. Mid-20's white collar professionals go out as frequently as their parents did back in the 1990's, but my guess is that they are buying 1-2 drinks per night out, rather than the 3-6 drinks that their parents bought.

If the WGs introduce price hikes, the hardcore mongers will still continue to session at the same rate, but the casual mongers will cut back. If that happens, it would be similar to what happens when alcohol taxes are increased. Compared to the general population, heavier drinkers are less price responsive.


The empirical literature has consistently found that increasing the price of alcohol leads to a reduction in consumption. The magnitude of reduction is captured by price elasticity of demand: the change in consumption of alcohol as a result of a unit change in its price, keeping all other factors (e.g. income, prices of other products) constant. Accurate estimates of price elasticities represent a critical input for the design of alcohol taxation and pricing policies, because they indicate how much prices must increase in order to achieve the intended reduction in consumption.4Meta-analyses and reviews of estimates from a large body of international empirical research show that a one per cent increase in the price of alcohol will, on average, reduce demand for alcohol by around half of one per cent (see Table 1). The magnitude of elasticity differs for different population groups, but its sign is always negative. Meta-analyses show that price increases are slightly less effective at reducing drinking among young people compared with the general population, and male drinkers are slightly less responsive than female drinkers to price increases. Despite a perception that the heaviest drinkers may not be affected by tax and price increases, Wagenaar's meta analysis of estimates from 10 studies found that, overall, heavy drinkers are price responsive, albeit less than the general population, with a mean price elasticity of demand of −0.28.21 However, other reviews of research findings in this area obtain mixed results, with Nelson's recent review finding that only two of the 19 studies he includes show heavy-drinking adults to be significantly and substantially responsive to prices.

https://academic.oup.com/bmb/article/123/1/149/3958774..

Mursenary
06-25-21, 02:22
Fair point about wealth of the region affecting prices. But the difference between Switzerland and German salaries is substantial $6261 versus $2957 (after tax per month). Whereas Hesse and NRW salaries are roughly the same 23943 and 22294 (per year).

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_states_by_household_income

I would liken it to the cost of alcohol. Overall consumption is probably roughly the same or slightly lower compared to twenty years ago, but my guess is a larger percentage of that consumption occurs inside homes. Mid-20's white collar professionals go out as frequently as their parents did back in the 1990's, but my guess is that they are buying 1-2 drinks per night out, rather than the 3-6 drinks that their parents bought.

If the WGs introduce price hikes, the hardcore mongers will still continue to session at the same rate, but the casual mongers will cut back. If that happens, it would be similar to what happens when alcohol taxes are increased. Compared to the general population, heavier drinkers are less price responsive.What happens in Sharks / Oase / Palace will give insight into how much these clubs actually rely on international mongers. I'm assuming that the wealth in the region is not perfectly correlated within the Swiss / German or Hessen / NRW wealth differences because the Hessen clubs specifically benefit from international mongers more so than locals (compared to NRW especially now that Dutch / Belgian attracting GT is gone).

If the Hessen WGs hike the prices, it would surely send Hessen clubs further into International mongers territory. I don't like that as I appreciate the local German's effect in keeping prices low and service levels high.

Anyway, my point is I do think that we will see pricing gouging from Hessen girls in the near future. Whether that is permanent will depend on how much local business versus international business supports the clubs (and girls).

Also, I made another post speculating how the Babylon entry hike may be used as a way to filter out specific clientele. I'm interested in seeing what will become of this especially since Babylon is the closest thing there is to former GT / LR environments and service levels.

Maxime
06-25-21, 06:44
Just to clarify, guessing you mean +50 for every half hour after the first. If you mean 50/ HR after, then that would be surprisingly great news if true.

Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......

And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around ;)).

ExpatLover
06-25-21, 07:02
Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......

And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around.Summer was never the best time for LU, this year I think it will be worse. On top of that the Indian variant is around. I don t believe that the FKK experience can be the same than before therefor I am waiting at least 2022 to give another try.

ExpatLover
06-25-21, 07:17
What happens in Sharks / Oase / Palace will give insight into how much these clubs actually rely on international mongers. I'm assuming that the wealth in the region is not perfectly correlated within the Swiss / German or Hessen / NRW wealth differences because the Hessen clubs specifically benefit from international mongers more so than locals (compared to NRW especially now that Dutch / Belgian attracting GT is gone).

If the Hessen WGs hike the prices, it would surely send Hessen clubs further into International mongers territory. I don't like that as I appreciate the local German's effect in keeping prices low and service levels high.

Anyway, my point is I do think that we will see pricing gouging from Hessen girls in the near future. Whether that is permanent will depend on how much local business versus international business supports the clubs (and girls).

Also, I made another post speculating how the Babylon entry hike may be used as a way to filter out specific clientele. I'm interested in seeing what will become of this especially since Babylon is the closest thing there is to former GT / LR environments and service levels.In the recent years, less and less German senior mongers are visiting FKK, they are replaced by younger guys with migration background, mostly married and just able to spend 1 or 2 hours in the FKK. The girls are saying that this clients are far less demanding than the German one, no licking, no kissing may be sometimes CIM or anal that is all.

Sirioja
06-25-21, 07:19
Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......

And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around .Didn't see Samya crowded on last Friday and even at night. Seem new attractive German at Bab, don't know for her look.

Maxime
06-26-21, 09:36
Didn't see Samya crowded on last Friday and even at night. Seem new attractive German at Bab, don't know for her look.New, blond german girl there is Annabelle. Nice face, but look at the pics on website for more............... And don't expect many romance and intimacy as you had before from Romanian princesses ;)

Maxime
06-26-21, 09:41
Yesterday lineup had about 25 girls. At any given time there were even less men. So the new pricing does its job: be.

Some "new" girls, that worked for ages in GT (Lulu, Andrea), and the rest of the LU also not very impressive. Happily some of the well-known gems where there, so had a good time, but not something you would return for every week. A la carte and BBQ where available, so food (and drinks) were fine.


Oops, sorry for the confusion, it is indeed +50 euro for every additional half hour! So in effect every session is +10 euro compared to before, which looks like the famous "+10 euro room charge" that was on the table a while ago......

And indeed, no expectations about lowering the entrance fee, and no reason better / more girls will come to Elsdorf because of the +10 euro (since the girls have to pay more also......). Already a fact is that much less men go there now because of the idiotic price increase in combination with the mediocre line up (other clubs that just re-opened are stacked with men, so see it s a premium to pay to have not so many other men around ;)).Additional news is that price for extra's is back to "normal" now (+25 euro). So now only the entrance fee and first half hour rate are off-market.

McAdonis
06-26-21, 11:08
Anyway, my point is I do think that we will see pricing gouging from Hessen girls in the near future. Whether that is permanent will depend on how much local business versus international business supports the clubs (and girls).In Velbert, when the WGs tried to introduce a price increase, the mongers voted with their wallets. And it took 90-120 days for the WGs to return to market reality. That scenario is more likely in secluded Babylon than it is in Sharks. If Sharks WGs raised prices, I could see locals boycotting (after the initial euphoria). But the decreased attendance and patronage may prove fruitless, because the international mongers will rush in. Thus, that 90 consecutive days of decreased attendance and economic starvation that happened in ACA might never occur in Sharks. The fly-in, international monger demand is a little harder to forecast. I could be too easily influenced by what I read on ISG. Based on what I read here, the vast majority of ISGers are anxious and will return ASAP (or have booked their trip already). Is that reflective of the wider international monger market? Until tourism and business travel rebound, many non-hardcore mongers will not have an "excuse" to return to FKK land.

Sirioja
06-26-21, 14:04
New, blond german girl there is Annabelle. Nice face, but look at the pics on website for more............... And don't expect many romance and intimacy as you had before from Romanian princesses ;)Body is not wow? Yesterday at Cleo. Ch, met exotic Kurd Syrian / German Sara with pretty face and slim, but too prostitute for me, when I still wish to find a Romanian elegant princess. I don t change my way.

Gfefan
08-08-21, 12:43
I intend to be in the Cologne area on Aug 14th. Debating between Samya vs. Babylon? Or Both?

I like to hang around, get some beer, being able to fuck in the outdoor will be a plus. Oh, yeah. Swimming pool (heated?) will be great.

BTW, any recommendations to stay nearby for the night?

Sirioja
08-08-21, 19:21
I intend to be in the Cologne area on Aug 14th. Debating between Samya vs. Babylon? Or Both?

I like to hang around, get some beer, being able to fuck in the outdoor will be a plus. Oh, yeah. Swimming pool (heated?) will be great.

BTW, any recommendations to stay nearby for the night?Go to Bab early, enjoy swimming pool in garden, some girls can go with You, or inside jacuzzi and free beer on bar. If not good day, then move to Samya which is not far and wake up on evening. Enjoy as long open. Alexa. Ro at Bab is queen for sweet BBBJ, just delightful.

LionMan966
08-08-21, 20:31
I recommend Samya, but yet to return since Covid. I read here that there's no party there because of restrictions but many girls have returned. I've never been to Babylon. Be careful tho, clubs might be closing soon because of rising cases.


I intend to be in the Cologne area on Aug 14th. Debating between Samya vs. Babylon? Or Both?

I like to hang around, get some beer, being able to fuck in the outdoor will be a plus. Oh, yeah. Swimming pool (heated?) will be great.

BTW, any recommendations to stay nearby for the night?

Maxime
08-09-21, 07:22
Samya is dead BEFORE 20:00 and Babylon is dead AFTER 20:00, so best is to combine the both on 1 day. And have good sex in Babylon (in Samya that might be a challenge, many non performers there!) and after that relax in Samya 😉.

BTW, here you can see that the area of Babylon will go to level 2 incident rate as of tomorrow (August 10th): https://www.mags.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/210806_matrix.pdf.

So beware it can be closed (like the clubs in Dusseldorf had to close). But nobody really knows.

Sirioja
08-09-21, 09:27
Samya is dead BEFORE 20:00 and Babylon is dead AFTER 20:00, so best is to combine the both on 1 day. And have good sex in Babylon (in Samya that might be a challenge, many non performers there!) and after that relax in Samya 😉.

BTW, here you can see that the area of Babylon will go to level 2 incident rate as of tomorrow (August 10th): https://www.mags.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/210806_matrix.pdf.

So beware it can be closed (like the clubs in Dusseldorf had to close). But nobody really knows.I agree for Bab for the afternoon, but not dead at 8 pm. Nevertheless, I prefer Samya with more beauties if You like Romanians. Best days being from Thursday to Saturday, and sometimes Sunday at Samya.

Maxime
08-11-21, 07:39
Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.

Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).

Sirioja
08-11-21, 08:55
Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.

Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).Bad evolution under delta and what will be when Germans will come back from holidays, bringing back delta at home, when highest rates are in touristic places. I didn't see any covid or delta climbing with me in Iseran, maybe can t breathe in high altitude, but I was happy to see my friends little donkeys back. When I saw long time shops which are now closed, sad, but little donkeys are still alive. Fuck covid in mountains.

Gfefan
08-11-21, 12:45
Oh damn. I was going to go there and then, Samya per previous suggestions. My plan is on Aug 14th.

Is this for all clubs in the region? If yes, I might postpone my trip.


Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.

Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).

Gfefan
08-11-21, 13:55
Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.

Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).I called them up and they said "Yes, massage only. But, what the girls do in the room is up to them."

Does that seem true? I'm now wondering if I should scratch my planned trip on Aug 14th. Any tips / guidance welcome.

Sirioja
08-11-21, 22:45
I called them up and they said "Yes, massage only. But, what the girls do in the room is up to them."

Does that seem true? I'm now wondering if I should scratch my planned trip on Aug 14th. Any tips / guidance welcome.If you go, ask girls before going to room, when club have to follow administration rules.

Maxime
08-12-21, 06:51
Because of high incident rate, as of today "massage only" in Babylon, no sexual services offered.

Depending on the incident numbers, this can last for several days or more. (at least 5 days as I understood).Incident rate up again (to 39,1), so let's see how long this will last.

It is depening on the regio (Kreis), so now Elsdorf (Babylon), Dusseldrof (e. G. Dolce Vita) and Koln (Samya) can not be open as a sex club for the moment.

DrPoon
08-12-21, 11:08
Incident rate up again (to 39,1), so let's see how long this will last.

It is depening on the regio (Kreis), so now Elsdorf (Babylon), Dusseldrof (e. G. Dolce Vita) and Koln (Samya) can not be open as a sex club for the moment.It won't go down to under 35 for months. Even if people are vaccinated the delta variant will still be spreading.

Maxime
08-13-21, 06:15
It won't go down to under 35 for months. Even if people are vaccinated the delta variant will still be spreading.Today 42,1 so. A system change is needed, might be next Monday for NRW (like Baden Würtemmberg and Niedersachsen, they don't consider incident rate as the main KPI to open / close venues anymore).

Rocky V
08-13-21, 11:09
It won't go down to under 35 for months. Even if people are vaccinated the delta variant will still be spreading.I may be wrong here, but I think the criteria will change on the 23rd August, when the number of hospitalizations and vaccinations will also be taken into account before deciding business closures. So, I guess things may re-open in 10 days or so.

HammerTime96
08-13-21, 21:44
I may be wrong here, but I think the criteria will change on the 23rd August, when the number of hospitalizations and vaccinations will also be taken into account before deciding business closures. So, I guess things may re-open in 10 days or so.Yes you're wrong: in Germany everything that can be used to DELAY opening and to ADVANCE more lockdowns is pushed by the government.

The closer we get to autumn, the more bullshit 'science' will be pushed by MerKill & Co to make sure that things lock down again and the middle class can be further destroyed.

Oh, about those so-called 'hospitalisations' that people cry about:

German hospitals have been caught redhanded by a federal accounting office in deliberately understating the number of free ICU beds in order to get more money:

https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/wdr/intensivbetten-daten-101.html

https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/themen/coronavirus/spahn-bundesrechnungshof-ausgaben-corona-100.html

And then the UK, show up at the hospital with a broken leg, but end up in the statistic as "being hospitalised with CONvid19" when your test comes up as 'positive' AFTER being admitted:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/26/exclusive-half-covid-hospitalisations-tested-positive-admission/


Exclusive: Over half of Covid hospitalisations tested positive after admission

Leaked data suggest vast numbers classed as being hospitalised by the virus when they were admitted with other ailments.

Maxime
08-14-21, 07:35
Today 42,1 so. A system change is needed, might be next Monday for NRW (like Baden Wrtemmberg and Niedersachsen, they don't consider incident rate as the main KPI to open / close venues anymore).And today 51,8, so not going down at all.

Even the staff now thinks (temporarely) closing (of the current Massage salon) might be ahead soon.

HammerTime96
08-14-21, 10:20
And today 51,8, so not going down at all.

Even the staff now thinks (temporarely) closing (of the current Massage salon) might be ahead soon.This is how 'well' all those vaccines work. Most Europeans (vaxxed and unvaxxed) strongly believe that another horror winter with more national lockdowns and forced closures is just a matter of time.

Most people here on this forum have been seriously deceived by the CCP propaganda and scaremongering ("lockdowns, vaccines, apps, are the only way out") of people like Mursenary, PaulInZurich, Rocky V etcetera and all the lies from the politicians propagated and the mainstream media.

SpermBirds
09-03-21, 07:05
Joke of the day in the German Clubscene:

Official statement on the Babylonwebsite: due to the closing of a part of the highway after the exceptional rain and stormdisaster it has become rather inconvenient to reach Babylon and our clients have to make a slightly longer route to visit our club. Also more traffic and roadblocks which cause inconvenience. Therefore Babylon reduces it's entryprice back to 65 E for a day-card and the other options with 10 Euro as well to make a gesture to our clients from now on. Never heard such a load of bollocks to kind of admit what's been going on there since they decided to raise their entry prices after the re-opening. The disastrous weather was a month and a half ago by the way (great that the club responded almost immediately (irony modus on) and the road situation didn't change yesterday unfortunately for those which have still some mental ability. Babylon is becoming more and more the laughingstock of the club scene and with this statement they take their (decreasing number of) clients for complete fools even more than before.

The "unofficial" reasons for this "gesture" are actually:

* heavily decreasing number of girls working in the club.

*decreasing number of clients attending the club, who wants to pay 75 E for that kind of line-up anyway?? Or finds it remotely worth the price?

* a group of regular Babylongirls are working together in a close by location of Elsdorf in a private setting where numerous regulars visit them and that sinks the numbers on both male- and female side.

* more and more clients seem to fed up with the semi-boring situation in the club with girls in a bad mood, the usual bad mood of the owner's wife and so on.

Bot oh well, from now on (maybe until the roadblocks disappear, who knows 'cause that's the official reason, euuheuum euuheumm cough cough) guest get a reduced entry of "only" 65 Euro instead of 75 and the famous birthdaypartylists of let's say every other week-end day are back to 40 Euro instead of 50. Great! Yeah right. What a joke!

Sirioja
09-03-21, 17:22
Joke of the day in the German Clubscene:

Official statement on the Babylonwebsite: due to the closing of a part of the highway after the exceptional rain and stormdisaster it has become rather inconvenient to reach Babylon and our clients have to make a slightly longer route to visit our club. Also more traffic and roadblocks which cause inconvenience. Therefore Babylon reduces it's entryprice back to 65 E for a day-card and the other options with 10 Euro as well to make a gesture to our clients from now on. Never heard such a load of bollocks to kind of admit what's been going on there since they decided to raise their entry prices after the re-opening. The disastrous weather was a month and a half ago by the way (great that the club responded almost immediately (irony modus on) and the road situation didn't change yesterday unfortunately for those which have still some mental ability. Babylon is becoming more and more the laughingstock of the club scene and with this statement they take their (decreasing number of) clients for complete fools even more than before.Eddy made a lot of improvement works in his club and covid closed for months with less clients since then. Not so easy, but queen of BJ, superstar Alexa is still there. I just wish him to survive when Bab is in FKK legend and real FKK.

FuckedUpSwede
09-19-21, 10:42
I have met a woman that is quite open for sexual adventures, we have been a couple for 18 month. I have told her about the FKK scene and my experiences in FKK: s. She has now opened up to visit some kind of establishment where she can get fucked by me and another male at the same time. I read on the homepage of Babylon that they accept couples but I cannot remember ever seeing a couple in there, only a female I recognized as a single guest prefering woman. I really like Babylon so I would like to introduce her to it but have anyone here a experience from this at club Babylon? I have no previous experience from going to anything like this as a couple.

Smoke Light
09-19-21, 14:26
I have met a woman that is quite open for sexual adventures, we have been a couple for 18 month. I have told her about the FKK scene and my experiences in FKK: s. She has now opened up to visit some kind of establishment where she can get fucked by me and another male at the same time. I read on the homepage of Babylon that they accept couples but I cannot remember ever seeing a couple in there, only a female I recognized as a single guest prefering woman. I really like Babylon so I would like to introduce her to it but have anyone here a experience from this at club Babylon? I have no previous experience from going to anything like this as a couple.I think I have seen a couple at Bab back in 2017. I suggest you call the club and discuss your options. Getting another male into the room is against the rules. Your only option will be that another man has to take one of the girls and you go into the room as two couples, then it should be ok. FKK Bernds Schieferhof is definitely very friendly for couples but the choices for girls and men may be limited. And you may consider gangbang parties as an alternative where all women get a wrist band of different color, meaning available for any sex with anybody, sex by invite only, or "just looking" meaning your girl is there only to watch others fuck. Good luck, sounds like you have a wonderful woman by your side. I am in DEU until the end of Sept and have an apartment near Koln. We can meet in club or in private if you want and I can help out with your needs, if your lady would consider taking a closer look at my glorious tool LOL. I am serious. Cheers.