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05-21-02, 01:24
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T-Rex
07-31-02, 22:23
Hi All, does anybody know if you take the train from koln to bergheim to go to babylon is the station bergheim (erft)bahnhof or something else,on bahn.de they gave many stations for bergheim.. thanks if anyone can help with info..

Kaleu
08-01-02, 08:52
Bergheim (Erft) is correct. From there you can either take a taxi or a bus to Elsdorf, where Babylon is located.

Be carefull, the last train to Cologne from Bergheim is leaving around 9pm (not 100% sure maybe it's even already around 8pm, so check the timetable) or you'll have to go to Horrem by taxi, which is going to be expansive.

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kaleu

Maciorus
08-09-02, 15:56
Guys whats the word on Babylon? Is it worth visiting right now or are clubs like Parksauna Wildenrath or Planet Happy Garden a better choice?

thanks for the info, keep up the good job!

EFrog
11-17-02, 22:10
too bad,
Babylon during long time was a "must" place and it is no longer.
Best advice : avoid the place.
They start now woth over prices compared to most places in the area and maybe a consequence to less attendance due to this, the quality of the girls has dropped dramatically.
I didn't visit the "sister-club" Wiago and maybe somebody can say here if it is the same problem there.
But for Babylon, sure (2 visits to make no mistike) good times are over.
Maybe they one day realize that earlier all was better.

Moonlight Bob
02-24-04, 05:33
I visited Babylon at the end of September last year on a Monday afternoon. I had already enjoyed Oasis (my favorite), FKK World and Atlantis.

Babylon was stiffer (more formal perhaps) than the Frankfurt clubs. The old center stool in the U-shaped couch is gone, as is the dance stage. The layout seemed to encourage the quieter atmosphere. There is no hustle in Babylon. You have to take the first approach move. There is nothing like the light hustle at Frankfurt.

The girls were attractive and much better than I had expected after reading posts on other boards. It wasn't up to the standards of Babylon circa 1999 or 2001, but on an absolute basis it was good. I spent some time with a Dutch girl named Monica (my fourth Babylon Monica over the years) and enjoyed her as much as I have enjoyed any Dutch girl.

FWIW, I went on to Wildenrath later in the afternoon, and didn't like it at all. May have something to do with a guy who took four (!) girls upstairs together. They likely were the best of the lot.

Rudi Bumzer
03-04-04, 21:20
Babylon is not that bad anymore. Indeed, a couple of years it was not so attractive, most of the girls left, but recently I have visited it and must say, the girls have improved again, and the atmosphere is good.

Especially my dear lovie Verona is really a genius in offering a fantastic blowjob till the end, till the last drop.

I will continue going there!

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CBGBConnisur
03-23-04, 06:45
Rudi, did you have pay extra for blowjob to completion? What are the prices right now at the club?

Jackyo
04-24-06, 20:48
I've read recently on the German forum that the management and the pricing of services at this club has changed for the better.

One of the first FKK clubs I ever visited and one which I thought I absolutely had to visit whenever I was there. I stopped going because I was ripped off the last time.

We hung out in the room for a bit longer and she took it to mean that I wanted a double session with her.. so be warned!

I paid and didn't make a scene but I would advise caution (and its not because of a misunderstanding of any sort - I speak fluent German).

My kind of club though: all nude, small, nice edited selection of women, quiet. I've had many a good session here with outstanding women I've never forgotten.

Not sure the changes mean this club rises in priority though unless I am again in the neighborhood.

Peter
04-25-06, 07:52
I called there on Friday, because I wanted to go there again, but they said they had 5 girls, and that just isn't enough for me to risk the entry fee and a whole afternoon and the dirve to the middle of nowhere.

I went to Bernds instead, which was OK, especially the food. Sessions were OK, but the selection among the 18 girls was not that great. Had a Greek girl who had a baby at 14, and started the job on her 18th birthday, and who looked better bouncing around like Stella used to than she was in the room. Then there was a black girl named Princess from France and Cameroon. Ass to drop dead for, and the service was good, although I am always paranoid in that club about girls trying to fuck without condoms, so I get all nervous there.

Fkk Lover
04-25-06, 08:13
yeah the girl count is small but it's always been fun for me if frickin elsdorf wasn't so far away from everything. haven't been there in awhile tho.

they could have 5 girls but if 1 of them was laura... is she still there? i've heard elsewhere that she had left and came back. if she is, i'm rubba dub dub-ing her straight to the room with the adjacent jacuzzi bathtub and booking an hour session with her. after that, it's more than likely that at least one of the remaining girls would be more than suitable for me. last time i was there there was a russian newcomer (i think her name was svetlana), slim [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) with smooth milky white skin natural blond who was coming out of the room just as i came from the locker room fully dressed and ready to leave. drats!

babylon as well as colosseum has always suited my eyes as far as their girl selection goes, but i understand that some people like a little more variety and for that you always need a higher body count.

Jackyo
04-26-06, 12:05
I've been with Laura. Blonde, thin, tall, small tits. The most amazing pussy lips: big and full. Very wet.

I believe Verona is also still there. Blonde, petite, very large tits, Italian. Also, very wet down there.

I understand that Shirina has retired and is now the Thekenfrau.

I've seen her many times, never actually had the pleasure. A friend of mine swears by her though as providing the ultimate in service.

I used to go to see Suzi (blonde, from Bonn, nice large tits) and Michelle (brunette, Hungarian). Also still dream of Chanel (blonde, half German and Turkish, nice figure and very uninhibited).

And there was the legendary Nina (the most perfect body and face - a 10+) who the guys on the Roemerforum still talk about.

Hoping that the new management means a return to the good old days.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 21:01
Susanna (again), and
Yvette (again)

This was my last day, and I was going to make the most of it. I repeated with Susanna and Yvette. It was just like the first time except that I had them do more with each other than with me. It was fantastic watching them kiss and lick each other. How much time and money had I wasted in Amsterdam trying to find girls who would do threeways and if I were lucky it would only be a partial rip off, and now I had a roomful of three way all star beauties.

Maria, Turkey, 25?, looks 7, attitude 9

There were several other nice girls that I still hadn’t gotten to and wanted to see before I left. Maria was a nice Turkish girl with long black hair covering her shoulders and big natural tits. She agreed to do it right in the main room in the corner with the wide sofa area.

Maria, Germany/Thailand, 25?, looks 8, attitude 9

Next up was Miriam, a pretty half-German half Thai girl. We went to a private room and she did a fantastic cim for me, letting it drip out of her mouth and all over her chin like a porno movie. I think she had changed the subject when she said she thought the food was better in Germany than in Thailand, but I’m not sure.

Margueretta, German, 25?, looks 7, attitude 9

The last one that I really had to do was Margueretta. She was a nice German girl with wavy dry red hair to her shoulders. I saw her return with a customer and I asked her if she was free. She said she wasn’t ready quite yet, so I told her to come get me when she was. She found me in the main room and we had sex there in front of everyone.

Yvette (again)

When we were done it was still early to leave. I figured I could squeeze in one more round, so I went with Yvette, who had grown on me. If this wasn’t my first FKK trip ever I would have said this was a mistake. I was by this time completely exhausted sexually from the past week and that afternoon had been particularly intensive. There was a lot of blowing of my half limp dick and finally a long jerkoff session to try to cum in her mouth, which eventually succeeded and was really nice, with cum dripping out of her mouth and spread all over her lower face, but she gave me a look (a friendly look) and said that she thought I was done for the day. I agreed. I also tipped her 30 DM extra for the long and patient session.

When I left several of the girls came over to say goodbye. The manager said that she thought I had been with every girl, though that wasn’t quite true since there were one or two who were heavy and I wasn’t interested in. Also I regretted never having been with the frizzy red haired girl who I had seen giving a blowjob on the first day. She had only been there once or twice after that and I hadn’t gotten to her.

Unfortunately there was a bit of a disagreement before I left. I was low on DM so I had asked if I could pay with Dutch Guilders if I ran out and the manager had said yes. I had asked what the rate was, was one Dutch guilder equal to one DM, and she had said yes. Well, when I went to pay one DM was not equal to 1 guilder, it was equal to 1.2 guilders, so the price had gone up and I made a fuss, but I paid anyway. I thought she had played a game with me, but I had enjoyed the club so much I didn’t want to make much out of it. Later, however, I looked at the currency rates in the paper and realized that she was quoting a very fair rate. She probably hadn’t understood me when I asked if the rate was 1 to 1 and I felt badly for unnecessarily creating a bit of hard feeling after such a wonderful week.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 21:03
Susanna (again), and
Yvette (again)

A couple of days later I was back in Babylon and this time I was going to do a threeway and make the most of my experience to get it right. This time I picked both girls myself, Susanna and Yvette, and they were both young and beautiful. We warmed up on the sofa and went to a large and luxurious room. And it was hot. We did double blow jobs, double daty, oral triangle ... One image fixed in my mind is both of them on their knees, facing each other, holding each other tight and making out like two horny teenagers, which is what they were, or almost. I finished with a double cim. Susanna whined because I got some of it in her eye, but overall it was one of my great all time experiences.

Anya (again)

After that I went back to Anya. She seemed very pleased and even surprised. She was warmer and friendlier than before. She absolutely refused do sex in the room, but she didn’t seem to mind doing a very long 69 on the sofa in front of everyone. Anya’s skin was really soft and youthful. In the room she kissed like my girlfriend that I hadn’t seen for a month. I banged her brains out and then we went back to 69 so I could cum in her mouth. She didn't swallow, which was the way I wanted it, so I lied for her and paid the extra 50. When we were done I wanted to take her downtown and buy her presents.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 21:04
Name?, German, 24?, looks , attitude 4

But first I needed a break. I went to some interesting towns to sightsee. I also tried a couple of other clubs, but with bad results. I went to Berndt’s, which took forever to find, including asking people with their kids how to find the street, and when I got there it was closed because it was the weekend. I also visited a club somewhere north of Koln and it was closed too. It was right next to a bar and I embarrassed myself by going into the bar and asking where the club was. They told me they had no idea what I was talking about, but I’m sure they knew exactly. On my way through Frankfurt I decided to visit a no name club. At least if it had a name I didn’t remember what it was. It had a strange price structure, where 170 DM got me two tickets that were good for sex. There were only a handful of girls and I only saw one that looked interesting. I approached her and she had a lukewarm attitude. When we got to the room she wanted to do covered bj, but I could do bb if I spent both tickets. There wasn’t anyone else worth doing, so I figured why not. When the mediocre session ended I checked quickly to verify that there was no one else interesting and left.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 21:04
I still hadn’t tried Wiago, but if it was half as good as it’s sister club, Babylon, it was certainly worth going on another Yahoo maps expedition to find it. I went there in the afternoon so that if it weren’t good I would still have time to go to Babylon. It is in a semi-industrial area of town and was hard to find even with maps. They have the same formula of greeting you with naked women, only neither of the two who greeted me were hot. I thought for a moment of walking out, though that would be awkward and it would mean never coming back, at least not on this trip. Also as I walked to the reception desk I passed some photos of the alleged lineup, and they looked impressive. It was early in the day, so it was hard to know if the good girls were there yet or not.

Name?, France, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7

I paid and entered the main area, and I was not impressed. There was one girl who had a great figure, but not a great face. I waited a while to see if the selection would get any better and it didn’t. I wondered how there could be such a difference between two sister clubs. I decided to go for the girl with the nice body. I never got her name. She had long frizzy black hair down over her shoulders. She was athletic looking and had huge perfect tits. Her face had a lot of freckles. I sat with her and told her that I hardly spoke German and she got flustered and wanted to know how we were supposed to do anything in that case. I had a hard time understanding why this might matter much. She was from Strasbourg, though, so she spoke French, which I am better at, but I was still put off by her reaction to me not speaking German.

Wiago had a nice round red velvet bed in front of a fireplace in the secondary living room. I asked her if we could have sex there and she said yes. It was a great setting, out in the open on a luxurious erotic bed with a crackling fire next to us. Her performance was just so so. There was little kissing, and she wouldn’t do cim or even let me cum on her tits. When I was done using her there clearly was nothing else that interested me at this club, and I didn’t want to see her again. I hated to get only one session for my admission fee, and it was possible that more girls would show up later, but I still had time to get in a full evening at Babylon if I left right away and I wasn’t going to risk a night in Germany on the possibility that this weak spectacle might improve. Even if some nice girls might show up sitting around waiting for them would have been unbearably boring.

Babylon

On top of all that I had a date. When I showed up at Babylon Zabina was there and she came over and asked me if I still wanted to have sex with two girls in the middle of the main room. Of course I did. She suggested that we wait until there were more people so it would be more fun. (Now I didn’t have to feel bad about wasting time in Wiago.) Meanwhile she asked me which girl I would like her to pick as our third. The red haired girl who I had first seen give a bbbj on the first day was there and I asked if she looked good to Zabina. Zabina smiled and said yes, and went to ask her. She came back with a disappointed expression saying that the girl had said she would do a threeway, but not in the main room. We tried several others, including Susanna and Yvette. Finally Pia agreed. Pia had a great body, slim with perfect tits, but not a great face. We sat together while we waited for people to show up and she said one thing that was off putting. She asked me a favor; that the next time I not take SO LONG so finish when I am inside her! It hadn’t occurred to me that I had taken a long time with her the day before. At one point when we were waiting together a girl started giving a guy a blow job and I asked her what she thought of it, whether it got her excited. She and Pia laughed and Zabina said no, they had all seen SO many blow jobs that seeing one more had no effect on them. This also put a slight damper on my fantasy of a room full of beautiful girls waiting just for me to come have sex with them because they were so horny. I hadn’t really thought about what it would be like to spend all day every day there in that room, staring at the same walls and the same girls giving the same blowjobs, only the dicks changing.

Zabina (again), and
Pia, Germany, 21?, looks 6, attitude 9

The room filled up and Zabina suggested we get started. We went straight to the circular bed in the middle of the main room with no couch warm up. I got a little nervous when the TV showing porn was turned off, people took seats around us, and the manager came out to watch, but it was also exciting to be the star of a group sex show. I was going to bang two girls, have them do lesbian action, and cum in one of the girl’s mouths. That never happened in any of the crap sex shows that I had seen in various red light districts around the world.

It got off to a great start. Lots of deep French kissing with both girls and they with each other. Making out with one and getting blown by the other. A double blow job including 69 with both girls licking my dick. An oral triangle. One of the girls and I going down on the other girl. Then fucking. First Pia, then Zabina, and meanwhile they kissed each other, or one went down on the other.

But it got less good when I realized how many times I had popped over the past several days, including that day. I began regretting my visit to Wiago. As I should have felt myself getting closer to a climax I instead seemed to be getting numb. The effect of two hot girls kissing was wearing off. I also thought of Zabina’s complaint that I had taken too long the day before. So I decided to finish things off. As I was on top of Zabina I asked her if I could cum in her mouth. She said “No!” But Pia said it was ok, so I started to jerk off into her mouth. But even that was difficult. Zabina went down on her, but by then that didn’t stimulate me much more than if she had done her taxes in front of me. I worried that people were starting to get bored. Finally I was able to finish in her mouth, but what had gotten off to a great start had a slightly embarrassing end. Still, it was fun. Afterwards I realized that I should have just called it quits without finishing once it had started to go on too long.

Feeling guilty for taking so long I later tipped each of them 50 DM on top of all the other charges, so it ended up being expensive at 550 DM, but still fun and unlike anything I had ever done before. I didn’t regret it at all. I thought how it would have been better if I had blown the big load that I shot at Wiago in Pia’s mouth instead of inside that Strasbourg girl l, but I was happy to have seen Wiago and that session in front of the fire was memorable in a way. I tipped them extra partly because I had later asked Susanna if it is a good idea to give a little extra if I take a long time. She pointed at her head and said “now you’re thinking!” It was a crass response, I thought, but it was a yes and I was probably going to tip anyway.

Susana had watched the whole thing and I sat with her and asked if she thought I was crazy. She said no. I said that she probably doesn’t like having sex with another girl and she smiled and said “why not?” I lit up. I never thought someone as beautiful as her would be interested. I just didn’t think I could be that lucky. But now I was that lucky and it was time to enjoy my good luck. I waited a while to recharge the batteries, then asked her to pick another girl.

Susanna (again), and
Mandy, Germany, 28?, looks 6, attitude 8

She picked Mandy. This was disappointing. Mandy wasn’t bad, but she was older and not as hot as some of the other girls. She was at least in her late 20s and was German. She was in pretty good shape, but her tits weren’t firm and she just didn’t have that youthful firmness. I had thought that such a young and beautiful girl like Susana would pick another similarly beautiful girl. Performance-wise everything was fine. They kissed each other and went down on each other. But Mandy wasn’t a top girl and I couldn’t stop thinking about how good it would be if I had Susanna together with another young girl.

Afterwards we talked about some of the girls I had been with and I said I liked them all. For some reason they didn’t like Angela, the first girl I had gone with. I had noticed that Angela was more often by herself, and she sometimes smiled at me or tried to get my attention, which I think was not allowed, so maybe that bothered them. But Angela had been good to me and I said so. The conversation made me uncomfortable since the girl I had been least happy with, and only because of her appearance, not because of anything she could control, was Mandy. Anyway, it had been a great day, with two lesbian sessions, but each one had room for improvement. I was determined to come back and get it right.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 21:06
Susanna, Poland, 23?, looks 10, attitude 8

The next day I arrived in the early evening and was excited to see that Susanna had told the truth; she was back. She was from Poland. She was short and had a perfect figure with beautiful firm natural medium sized tits. Her hair was reddish blonde and shoulder length. I asked if she was still interested in me and she said yes. I started to notice that there was a script, with a little talking before the kissing started and then gradually building up to sex. When she began kissing it was nice, but she preferred to sword fight with her tongue rather than to kiss with her lips, and I didn’t like this as much. She blew me for a couple of minutes and then suggested we go to a room. I asked for a couple more minutes of blow job and she said ok. In the room she was nice. The kissing was always the sword fighting, but everything else was great.

After than I decided to try for a two girl session. I would have liked to get Susanna to do one, but I didn’t know if she was into it and she was the best looking girl in the place, so I didn’t want to risk putting her off by asking her to do something she might not like. So I asked Zabina. Zabina wasn’t really any less hot than Susanna, she had a classic German blonde look with long hair down to her shoulders and a nice figure. She seemed a little friendlier and maybe more open to unusual experiences than Susanna. I never really clicked with Susanna, even though I liked her and picked her several times. There was something about her personality that I just didn’t get.

Zabina, Germany, 25?, looks 8, attitude 9
Yvette, Slovakia, 19?, looks 8, attitude 9

When I suggested a threeway to Zabina she thought it was a great idea. I asked her to pick another girl and she picked Yvette. Yvette looked nice, but I had passed on her because she had a stiff manner and short boyish hair that I wasn’t crazy about. Other than that she had a perfect figure and a nice face, and I later wondered why I cared so much about those other little things.

The couch time was a double thrill, with two girls servicing me in front of everyone. In the room I splurged for a lesbian session, which was quite genuine. It included kissing, pussy licking, and even p2m from Yvette's pussy to Zabina’s mouth. I finished inside Zabina while she was kissing Yvette. I had never done anything like this before with European girls. I couldn’t understand why every guy in this place wasn’t doing exclusively threeway sessions. I even asked Zabina afterwards why everyone did mostly one on one sessions and she said that the threeway sessions were expensive. Maybe, but they were new to me, so I was willing to pay anything, and I couldn’t understand why everyone else didn’t feel the same way. I asked Zabina if anyone ever had sex on the circular bed in the middle of the main room and she said yes. I asked her if she did it and she said yes. I asked her if she would do it with me and she said yes. I asked her if she would be there tomorrow (I was too tired that night) and she said yes. But it didn’t end there. She asked me if I didn’t want to do two girls on the circular bed in front of everyone and I said sure. So we made a date for the next day.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 21:06
Six years ago I knew nothing about FKKs. I had seen internet reports, but didn’t know whether to believe them or not because they were so glowing. I had been to Amsterdam many times, to Patpong in Thailand, and Rio, so I had some idea of what good and bad experiences were. I had a rough sense that quality dropped fast when one got away from the developing world, so I was skeptical that one of the worlds most developed countries would offer good value for sex. I got a hotel in Koln and drove to Babylon using maps I had printed out on Yahoo. I had no GPS and found the highways and feeder roads out of Koln to be maddening.

I arrived at about 3 in the afternoon and my spirits were lifted when a couple of beautiful naked blonde girls answered the door. Inside the place looked far cleaner and more luxurious than I had ever seen in this industry, and there were several pretty girls in addition to the nice ones who had answered the door. The manager told me the pricing system and recited a list of what they offered. I wondered what each of these individual services cost and how they were negotiated. When she mentioned condoms I erroneously understood that contrary to what I had read on the internet bbbj was not offered at this FKK, so already I had reason to doubt the reports I had read.

I took a seat and observed. A girl came and asked me what I wanted to drink, putting me on my guard for extra charges. I took a chance and accepted it since I had come a long way and unless the reports were dead wrong I was going to spend some considerable time there. The drink was of course free.

It was still early. There were only a couple of other clients and they weren’t going to the rooms with girls. I must have looked bored and the girls must have been puzzled because I sat still in the same spot for about 2 hours. But inside my head my mind was racing, looking for any sign that might help me calculate which girls would be nicer, which ones would be ripoffs, and which ones might be convinced to offer the magical bbbj or cim that I had read about (though it seemed from my introductory talk that these services weren’t available here). Now when I go to clubs I can be relaxed about how my visit will go because I have already gotten scores if not hundreds of bbbjs from beautiful girls all over the world. I have had hot 18 year olds suck me to completion and let me cum all over their tongues. I have had them make love to each other and then to me. I have done gangbangs. But back then I had been almost entirely unsuccessful in living out porn star fantasies (other than with girlfriends, where the wildness is usually limited) and I was skeptical that they could be found anywhere in Europe with any regularity. I had found cim a couple of times in Amsterdam, but it was never offered up front. I was hungry for experiences.

Then my life changed. In front of me a guy began talking with a nice tall girl with long frizzy reddish brown hair. She had a great chest and was one of the better looking girls in the room, though certainly not the best. Finally I was going to get to observe a negotiation. If only I could hear and understand what they were saying so I could know how it was done. The prettier girls are sometimes the more difficult ones, so I wondered how well he would do with this hot girl. She began kissing him, and I quickly sprang to attention to see how this would progress. She wrapped her arms around him and they started deep French kissing. They hadn’t even gotten to the room yet. She was reaching under his towel and stroking his dick, which was rock hard. Even in Rio I had never seen action like this. The towel fell away as she started climbing over to embrace him fully and kiss him more deeply. Then she knelt on the sofa and went down on him in front of everyone! They were doing it in front of the entire room! And most exciting of all, he wasn’t wearing a condom! I was holding onto my towel tight to try to keep my own hard on from being too obvious. It was pretty clear which girl I wanted to go with. I wondered now how long it would be before she returned. A wild gem like this might get taken for the rest of the night.

She left with her client and the waiting game began again. Now there were a few more men in the club and one of them sat next to the prettiest girl there. To my amazement the same drama unfolded. She talked with him, then began making out, and then went down on him without a condom. Still, these girls could be two exceptions, but when a third girl did the same I caught on that maybe this was the norm. Suddenly I realized that all the time I had just spent watching and calculating had been wasted. The entire lineup bad been wide open for hours and I had missed the opportunity. Now I wanted to be part of this. There were still several beautiful girls around who I was definitely interested in, but now it was after 6 PM, the club had filled up with guys, and the best girls all had someone sitting next to them. Now, after all that waiting with all the girls completely available, everyone was busy.

Angela, Hungary, 26?, looks 7, attitude 9

Well, not quite everyone. Angela was not one of the very top beauties, but she was definitely pretty. She was from Hungary. She had dark hair and a full chest and a nice face. She wasn’t completely thin, but still had a nice figure. I was disappointed not to be starting out with one of the knockouts, but I was definitely excited. I nervously sat next to her and she started to talk with me in a relaxed and friendly way that immediately put me at ease. Talking led to kissing and, like the other girls, she went down on me without a condom, and in front of everyone. I had never done sex like this in public before and I thought it was great. She asked if I wanted to go to the room and I suggested doing it right there, but she said no. So we went to the room.

In the room there seemed to be no restrictions. She kissed me like she was my girlfriend and did any position I wanted. I asked her if I could cum in her mouth and she said yes, but that it would be 100 DM extra. That was fine with me, and not only did she suck me off to completion, but she swallowed it. Afterwards I expected that she would want to finish up right away and get back to the room where she could make more money, but she stayed and talked with me for a long time. When we were done talking I showered, went back to the main room, and a couple of minutes later she came up to me with a concerned look on her face and said it wasn’t 100 DM for cim, it was only 50 DM, and she was sorry for the mistake. The price had actually declined after I had agreed to give the money! I had never heard of this happening in Europe.

Anya, Poland, 19?, looks 8, attitude 9

Now that my eyes had been opened I was eager to continue. But still the very best girls were all occupied. I picked Anya, a Polish girl with golden blonde hair who wasn’t too far from being one of the top girls. Once the session started I realized how young she was and how smooth and youthful her skin was. Same formula; kissing and bbbj in the main room, and then we went off to a private room for hot sex. I came in her mouth when we were doing 69 and I expected to pay extra, but afterwards I was told that I didn’t have to pay extra just for cumming in her mouth. Only if she swallowed it was there a surcharge! When we were done it was getting late. I saw one of the beautiful girls available and went over to her, but she was about to leave. I asked if she would be returning the next day, however, and she said yes.

Catalyst
06-20-06, 21:08
Gentlemen. I have written up some of my past experiences from several years ago. Here is a report on my first ever visit to an FKK club back when Babylon was possibly the best club in Germany. It might not be helpful to mongers who want to know the current conditions on the ground, but it might give some interesting perspective on what has changed and what has stayed the same, or it might just have some entertaining stories in it.

If you like it let me know. I have several old reports on Germany that I can post on various branches if you are interested in the past.

Writing this stuff up is fun. It brings back memories. In addition to racking my brains I looked up credit card receipts, ATM withdrawals on bank statements, and boarding passes to piece together this narrative. I’ve recaptured a lot of memories that had been lost, and each time a memory of a girl returns it is almost like scoring her all over again. I’ve also learned from past mistakes and successes. I did this as much for myself as for my readers and I recommend to others to do this. I hope you like it.

Vicifranck
06-20-06, 21:46
Yes, Babylon used to be a great spot. My first FKK visited in 2000.

I understand your nostalgia but I don't thing that old reports on Germany
interest a lot of people (sorry for my frankness). IMHO, readers on this board look in priority for fresh information and precise details on the actual girl to identify them when they visit the club.

Vicifranck

Dedalus
06-20-06, 22:23
Hey Catalyst,

Many, many, many thanks for that stroll down memory lane!!! Babylon was the first real FKK that I visited way back in the day. I somehow never count Dolce Vita.

These names like Yvette, Suzi, Tanya, Sabrina, Mandy, Anita, Shirina, Anja, NINA!!!, and Pia make me nostalgic for the old days when this was THE PLACE in Germany for horizontal refreshments of the best quality. I was thinking of Babylon during my last visit to Palace. There was a girl working there who I was trying to place as I am certain that I had seen her before. She was a little heavy-set and looked as though she had some years in her face. Not old, but no longer in her early twenties. I finally realized that this was an older and heavier version of Pia that I was looking at. Gone is that girlish figure and that teenie face, but those sad yet mischievous eyes were still there. I almost approached her just to confirm my suspicions, but I let it pass. I am sure that it was her though. She was hanging out with a bunch of girls who usually work the Köln/Düsseldorf club scene.

Mandy was working at Oase for a time. I would often see her there on Tuesday nights. Nina, who was one of my all-time favorites just stopped after about a year and a half of working. Yvette stopped working there shortly after that big raid that nearly closed the place down. I never heard the whole story, but she was not welcome there anymore. Neither the management nor the other girls had anything nice to say about her. Sabrina got a straight gig. I even saw her once at her "real" profession. We had a slightly uncomfortable moment at first, then later just started smiling and laughing to the bewilderment of some other who were around. We were both pretty certain that our other "encounters" need not be shared in THAT company. She was my second session at Babylon and the one who showed me around the place. I will never forget the sight of her and Tanya, wearing nothing but high-heels and a smile, meeting me at the entrance that afternoon.

One of the oddest session that I ever had was in the downstairs area one night with Pia. I had been a somewhat regular at Babylon for nearly 2 years by then and Pia and I had never had a session together. I was chilling out after a sauna and she was relaxing by the fireplace. All of a sudden some older gent collapsed on the stairs and the paramedics were called. Pia and I were the only ones downstairs and we were sort of trapped down there until the paramedics could move this guy. He was large and this was going to take a while.

We started talking and I remember making some harmless jokes about the poor slob having to explain this to his wife. That got a laugh out of her and I made an offhand comment about what a waste of time this was for both of us. She looked at me with those mischievous eyes and before I knew it we were practicing the art of 69 in front of a "his and her" paramedic team and a barely conscious, overweight, German senior-citizen. At one point while I was on top of her and the female paramedic made some wise-assed comment, Pia looked over in her direction and told her something along the lines of What do you expect from me? The old bones is beyond the type of help that I can provide."
I actually had to stop the humping because of the laughing attack that I had.

We did finish the session and I think that the old man was actually OK, so there was no harm done by our "irreverent sexual escapades." Never had another session with Pia. That one was just too hard to top.

Thanks again, Catalyst! If Babylon ever again becomes what it once was, then lets go there together and relive some fine, old memories. Nostalgia ain't what it use to be.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Jackyo
06-21-06, 11:28
Babylon was once upon a time the place to visit.

It was so good I used to book a hotel nearby and make it a point to visit it several times during each trip.

I also have a collection of reports written about Babylon from the good old days.

Funny you mentioned Pia's name. She is still active at Samya. She's just as irreverent as before, still funny, put on a few pounds, still "ungeschminkt" as the Germans say.

She's very much an acquired taste.

I traveled with Mark from Toronto once and he told me of an encounter he had with her at Wiago late one evening when nothing was going on.

It was close to closing time and she asked him to go down on her as she hadn't had an orgasm all day. No charge at all. And so he did.

The one woman at Babylon who I can still picture clearly is Nina. She was just amazing: nice face, nice figure and a nice person.

When she quit there was an all points bulletin put out on the Roemerforum. Rumor was that she hooked up with Arabian princes living in the south of France and they take care of her now.

There are guys out there who like me still think of her from time to time.

Dedalus
06-21-06, 12:50
Hey Jacko,

When I finally recognized that it was Pia I was seeing at Palace, I was wondering to myself if I too had changed so much. She was there with a few others from Samya (Laura with the "Joker" Tattoo and a few other faces). I will never forget her running around Babylon one warm, summer day with a large water-pistol, attacking unsuspecting dudes.


Nina: That was a special one!!!

Nina told me often what she wanted to be doing when she finished her FKK experiment. I am not sure if she ended up realizing her dream but I am pretty sure that it did not involve being a kept women by a member of the Saudi Royal family. Who knows though. She was indeed charmed by swarthy middle-eastern types. Of course this was when she was not being swept of her lovely feet by a dashing young American ;-))))

I remember being part of that all-point bulletin when she stopped and that was also about the time that I switched my loyalties to Oase and PHG. It was hard to venture through Babylon's door's knowing that Nina would not be there. Plus Oase is just closer for me to get to and I was eventually able to find solace in beauties like Maria, Melanie, and Mirijam (not all at once, though.)

Still, Nina was in a league of her own.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Dedalus
06-21-06, 12:58
I understand your nostalgia but I don't thing that old reports on Germany
interest a lot of people (sorry for my frankness). IMHO, readers on this board look in priority for fresh information and precise details on the actual girl to identify them when they visit the club.

Vicifranck

Dear Vici,

If and when Babylon restores itself to her former glory, then you will get bucket-loads of new info from nostalgic old fools like Catalyst, Jacko and myself.

Until that days arrives, please allow some of us veterans a bit of harmless reflection.

Cheers to the good ole' days,

Dedalus, who more than lives in the present tense on the Palace, World and Oase threads

Vicifranck
06-21-06, 19:34
Dear Dedalus,

Catalyst ask if, us, readers are interested in the past.

Yes, for nostalgic reflections like Jackyo wrote (rumor on the old stars....yes its interesting.)

No, for the reload of old reports

But you can do what you want, I m not the boss :)

Cheers

Vicifranck

Euro100
06-22-06, 02:18
dude, come on. you have not posted at all, and then the first thing you do is you lean into a senior member for producing a write-up :(

there is no harm in the reflections of catalyst. in the rio section he posted a string of them that was so good that i made them reports of distinction. many of us have similar old memories. it may be therapeutic for catalyst to write this all down (it is for many of us when we write our reports :)), but it is also interesting to read for many of us and reminds us of similar feelings/fears/trepidations/elations/... we had. plus, the insight into the human condition that catalyst mentions are often timeless and shoudl be of great help to the novice.

soooo ... let's just relax and enjoy the read.
euro

Catalyst
06-22-06, 04:43
Thanks for the support guys. I love hearing the updates on the girls. Check for more of my reports on other branches in the coming days. I'll spread them out over time so you don't get bombarded with everything at once.

Jakyo, I'll bet I'm not the only one who would love to see those old reports of yours.

Vici, don't worry; I don't think you meant it in a bad way. Some people seem to like these old reports, so maybe those who aren't interested can just skip over them. I'll be sure to mark them as "classic".

Jackyo
06-23-06, 00:01
Jackyo, I'll bet I'm not the only one who would love to see those old reports of yours.



I used to have my own website until my Internet service provider pulled the plug on me (something about indecency). Thats where I used to post.

Since then I've posted on the Roemerforum as I've gotten the most value from reading their content while researching trips.

Catalyst
06-23-06, 02:22
DAY 1 - Babylon (Days 2 and 3 are on the Berndt's and Oase branches)

After a moderately successful visit to Oase on my last FKK trip I decided to return to Babylon. The selection was good when I arrived and there was one particularly beautiful girl who stood out. I asked a couple of other girls if they wanted to have sex on the round bed in the middle of the main room and they both said no. I didn’t ask the beautiful girl because I wanted to see what the other girls’ reaction was first. Pia, who I had seen on a previous visit was there. She remembered our session from a while back, smiled, and said “he likes doing it in the main room. Are you sure you want just one girl?” She also said she could tell me which girls would do this, and when I asked about the beautiful one she said yes.

Jasmin, Germany, 23?, looks 9, attitude 9

Her name was Jasmin. She was German, with wavy golden blonde hair to her shoulders and a great figure. We had a nice session right there on center stage. I was nervous, not with stage fright, but wondering if everything would go the way I wanted. Other than the nervousness it did. If I wanted to nitpick I could complain that when I spooned her she didn’t turn around and kiss or even keep her back against my chest, but she kissed and had a good attitude. The prettiest ones aren’t necessarily the difficult ones.

Verona, Germany, 25?, looks 8, attitude 10

Next I did Verona. She is a nice German girl with long straight blonde hair down well over her shoulders. I don’t think she had been working long at that point, though she stayed on for years afterwards (and put on a few pounds). We also did it on the center bed in the main room, and it was a nice long session with lots of DFK.

Janine, Poland/Pakistan, 25?, looks 8, attitude 8

I couldn’t get any more girls to do it in the main room with me after that. There were three more good looking ones that I had to get to before I left. Janine was a tall skinny slinky girl with long straight black hair. One of her parents was Polish and the other was from Pakistan. I think I remember her saying she was 25, which was older than she looked. We went downstairs to the big mattress in front of the fireplace and had a nice session with lots of kissing, but I couldn’t finish.

Lucy, German, 19?, looks 7, attitude 6.

Next up was Lucy, a beautiful young German girl, who was 18 or 19. She had soft wavy brown hair and a little baby fat. She was the most reluctant kisser and by far the least engaging of the girls I saw. We also did it in front of the fireplace downstairs.

Nina, German, 24?, looks 8, attitude 8

Nina, a German girl, tall with short wavy blonde hair and nice big tits, wouldn’t do it in the main room or even in front of the fireplace. She insisted on going to a room, though oddly in spite of her shyness we went to one of the multiple bed rooms and she left the door open. It was a perfectly nice experience and it was great to have my fifth girl in one day.

At some point during this visit I had a revelation. When I was not having sex I was sitting still in a large room staring at the same naked girls and some chubby strangers. I had nothing to do, read, or watch, and no one to talk to beyond some brief chitchat with a girl who wouldn’t want to waste much time with me if I wasn’t going to do a session with her. For the first time ever I realized that this could actually get boring. On my first visits this never occurred to me because my mind was always racing, thinking about how to act, who to pick, how to negotiate, ... But now I had the system mostly figured out. There was nothing to keep my mind busy during the dead time between sessions. It occurred to me that some the girls might be bored out of their minds.

When I left four of the five girls were called over to say goodbye to me. (Janine was busy.) It was wild to have so many girls who I had just banged hugging me and telling me how much they wanted to see me again. Most of them gave me a small kiss, but Lucy made a bit of a show of kissing me like a real girlfriend like she had never come close to doing in our session together. I didn’t push her away or anything, but I could see what she was up to and I tried to have a what the hell is this all of a sudden reaction for the manager to see.

Catalyst
07-06-06, 06:07
Oase

This was the first time I had seen Oase since they expanded the club by adding the second room with the dancing pole. I was eager to have sex in one of the main rooms and I asked a nice blonde girl if she would do it.

Heidi, Hungary, looks 8, attitude 8

Heidi is beautiful with wavy blonde hair to her shoulders, a thick frame with a flat stomach, and a full chest. As soon as I picked her and was committed I realized that she was the grumpy girl that I had been with a year before and had been unhappy with. But this time she was nice. We did everything on one of the big sofas by the large passageway between the two main rooms. It was nice enough that I decided that she was worth spending extra on and doing cim, so I asked and she said it was ok, but she wanted to go to a private room for that. It actually worked out well since we got restarted again so it was almost like having another mini session. After a year of practice she had learned how to make guys happy. It’s exciting to see someone improve their skills so dramatically.

Maria, Russian, looks 8, attitude 7

I had also seen Maria before once. She was beautiful with a Russian face and Russian style fluffy wavy blonde hair. She had a wide frame, a flat stomach, and a great chest. She came up to me while I was on the sofa closest to the bar and I asked if we could do it there, to which she said yes.

It was pretty nice, though she hammed it up a bit too much. I started to take a while and I can’t remember if she said anything or not, but I eventually called it quits because I thought I might want to go back to her later so I didn’t want to take a long time. (Afterwards I thought about it and decided that I hadn’t really taken long at all, but she had made me feel like I had, so I decided not to go with her again after all.) But it was really sexy doing it right by the entryway with everyone passing by.

There was another nice girl with black hair who came by right afterwards as I was sitting in the same spot and asked me if I wanted company, but I told her I needed some time to rest. She came by again a little later and said something I didn’t understand, but it sounded insistent and I was slightly put off. I still wanted her, though, and just when I decided I was ready for her I couldn’t find her and I realized she had been telling me that she was about to leave. I later regretted not going with her right away. It could have been great to do two girls one after the other in rapid fire succession on the same sofa.

Name?, German, 28?, looks 5, attitude 5

So I looked around for someone else and didn’t see anyone nice. I started to panic, wondering if the good girls were all leaving early, like on my last visit to St. Augustine, and if I needed to grab what I could before it was too late. In my hurry I picked a bony girl with long stringy blonde hair that I wasn’t crazy about. I got her to do it in on the sofa in the main room, but she was unhappy about it. She was quiet and shy and it wasn’t her thing. She didn’t kiss and was a zombie. We mostly did spoon since I didn’t want to face someone who was going to turn her head away from me and not kiss. I regretted picking her. Doing it in public is no fun if the girl acts like she is ashamed of what you are doing. I didn’t waste a pop on her either.

Name?, Russia, looks 6, attitude 4

I wondered if I was done for the evening. But I at least wanted to hang around and watch the life in the club. After a while I saw a tall thick girl with long black hair who looked alright. She agreed to do it on the sofa in the main room without the dancing pole. She blew me for a long time and I think she was trying to make an extra 50 by getting me to finish early in her mouth. I thought it was a trick and I was glad that I had had so much sex during the past three days that finishing was going to be difficult. I enjoyed an extra long and enthusiastic blow job and turned her trick around to my benefit.

When we started having sex things went downhill. She wouldn’t kiss and was crabby. She started asking me how much longer I was going to take. I responded by trying to drag it out. After I had been banging her for a while I started to perspire and she acted disgusted when a drop of sweat fell on her. I ignored her and banged away a while longer before finally letting her off the hook. Whenever I passed by her after that we ignored each other.

Melanie, German, 26, looks 10, attitude 10

The two bad sessions in a row got me down, but most of the girls had not left early as I had feared. Then I saw a gorgeous girl who I hadn’t noticed before the entire day. I have since seen Melanie mentioned on this board, so she is known. She is a classic thin sexy blonde with an hourglass figure. We had sex in the main room on the sofa against the wall separating the main room from the bar. It was great, with lots of passionate kissing, 69, different positions, and finishing with missionary and cim, all in front of everyone. When I finished I asked “why haven’t we been doing this all night?” and that made her smile.

Alex, Bulgaria, 23?, looks 7, attitude 9

Alex is tall and not super thin, but she has a nice face and a sweet personality. Her long jet black hair gives her a southern European look. We did it on the sofa in the middle of the main room near the bar. I wasn’t able to finish, but she never complained or made me feel rushed. The whole time she was friendly and relaxed. She was always smiling. I liked her a lot.

Melanie (again)

I was pretty spent after that. But it was my last night and I wanted to try to cram in one more session. The club didn’t close until 5 AM, and it was about 4 AM, so most people had left and the girls were lined up against the wall by the entrance in front of where I was sitting. Now that I could see all the girls that were available until the very end I realized that I should have been more patient earlier when I picked the bony girl. I signaled to Melanie and we did another round on the sofa with all the girls watching in a row like audience members. I remember having Melanie in reverse cowgirl, looking Alex right in the eye over Melanie’s shoulder as we were doing it, and Alex turning red from embarrassment.

I was completely worn out and couldn’t pop, so I thought maybe I should try cim since that would be easier. I was out of euros and asked Melanie if I could pay in dollars and she said ok, but then after pulling off the condom and jerking for a while I could see that even if I succeeded I wasn’t going to be enjoyable, so I gave up. At least I knew I had pushed myself to the max. I had seen six girls, had convinced every one to have sex with me in one of the main rooms, and didn’t have a drop of sperm left by the end.

Catalyst
07-06-06, 06:07
Babylon

Babylon was my introduction to FKKs so I’ve always been sympathetic to it. I arrived for the first time in over a year and what I saw did not make me happy. Weren’t FKKs supposed to have girls? I saw a room with several guys sitting around the perimeter and no girls (or there might have been some unattractive ones that did not show up on the radar).

Yvette, Slovakia, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7

After a good wait Yvette, who I had seen there a couple of years before, walked in. She was still very young, but the intervening two years showed. She wasn’t overweight, but she had lost her teenage slenderness. She was still very friendly, but I thought I noticed a more businesslike or mechanical attitude, probably reflecting two years of this work. We went upstairs to a room and it was fine. We did cim, but I didn’t really get off on it since she closed her mouth around me completely and I never saw any of it. She spat it out into a paper towel and said “that was a lot”, which made me regret not having spilled it all over her mouth and chin (as I remembered doing a couple of years earlier). Babylon still had its premium price structure then, but the session wasn’t any better than at one of the big clubs with the normal price structure.

Verona, Italy, 25?, looks 7, attitude 10

The wait after that was unbearable. There was only one other girl there who was doable, and whenever she returned from the room she went directly to her next customer. There was a line for her and I had no idea how many people were in it. She wasn’t even super hot. It was Verona, who I had seen a year earlier. She was nice, but not spectacular, not quite what she was the last time I saw her. On the positive side, she wasn’t just processing guys to get through as many as possible. I could see that she was taking very good care of them to keep them as repeat customers. It was good to watch, but it was frustrating that she spent so long with each one while everyone was waiting. When she disappeared she left a room full of bored and frustrated guys staring at each other, and when she came back there were a few moments of soon to be dashed hope before she joined her next regular. I probably waited for her for more than two hours.

When it finally was my turn, though, she treated me like a regular. She came and put her head against my shoulder like she was lonely and wanted me to comfort her. I didn’t know if she remembered me from a year earlier. She didn’t say anything. I asked her if we could do it on the circular ottoman in the center of the room and she said yes. At this point there were a couple of other girls there, including Yvette, so I got to perform for a mixed audience. When we started spreading out our towels one of the girls asked in German something that must have meant “what are you doing there?” and she responded loudly with a big smile “sex!”

She had a nice figure, but she had put on some weight since the last time I had seen her and I wondered if she wasn’t near the end of her FKK career. She was still shapely and she still had her nice long blonde hair. Once we got started I forgot about the wait and everything was good. We kissed passionately and had a long session with lots of different positions, ending with cim. After we showered she cuddled with me for a while. Then she moved on to the next guy and I could see that the public sex idea had caught on because he got her to do it with him too. I watched them, and then for me there was nothing left, so it was time to return to Sudbad.

Sudbad

When I arrived I was a bit taken aback. All of the girls were sitting at the bar and there wasn’t a single guy in the place. It seemed unnatural. I got a drink and went to sit by myself. It might have been fun to talk to the girls, but my German is not great and I thought that they might not want to struggle through it if I wasn’t about to go to the room with someone. Also I like to hang out and warm up by watching the action in the main room first. An hour or so later guys began showing up and the club quickly got crowded. I was told that there had been a big football match going on that had just ended.

Anita was there again, and I also recognized Sammy who I had seen months earlier at St. Augustine and had had a pretty good session with. So I decided to do a threeway with lesbian action. But they told me that lesbian was double the price, which I knew it wasn’t (it was extra, but not double), and rather than argue and maybe get the management to force them to do lesbian action for less than they thought they should be able to overcharge me for and then have them be cranky about it I decided to just do a plain two girl session.

Anita (again) and
Sammy, German, 26?, looks 5, attitude 5

We went to the bed in the main room next to the bar. It was mechanical. It lasted for a long time because I wasn’t going to be able to finish quickly. At one point I asked to change positions, saw them look at each other, and I could see they were wondering how much longer is this going to go on. Sammy really wasn’t nearly as cute as Anita and on top of that was much more impatient, maybe because she could tell that I didn’t like her as much. After a while she wouldn’t kiss anymore. So I devoted most of my attention to Anita and finished inside her. It actually got easier to finish once I started ignoring Sammy.

I hung out for a long time after that. I wanted to do another session, but never managed to adequately recharge my batteries. There was a nice girl from St. Augustine who I talked to. I tried unsuccessfully to convince her to have sex with me on the sofa in the main room, but she would only go to a private room and I wasn’t interested in that. Anyway she had been drinking a lot – some guy had been buying champagne and drinking it with her – and she didn’t feel well. I also talked for a while to a Romanian girl who didn’t meet the aesthetic requirements for a session, but who was friendly. When I left the woman at the desk said something like “oh, you only did one session” (even though I had been there for a long time). She wasn’t unfriendly about it, but it annoyed me since she had seen me several times at St. Augustine and knew that I was a good customer who usually took many girls.

Catalyst
07-06-06, 06:08
Berndt’s

I hadn’t been in Bernd’s for a long time and after seeing several other clubs I had forgotten how small the main room was. I was worried at first about the selection. There was one super gorgeous girl who I asked to have sex with me in the main room and she said no, so I passed on her since I wanted to do that first. There didn’t seem to be much else, however, and I was wondering if I would be leaving early for Sudbad, which I knew I could get a free pass to since it was under the same management.

Sarah, Tunisia, 26?, looks 7, attitude 6

Sarah had long frizzy black hair and a sexy figure with a face that was nice but not quite as good as her body. She said we could have sex on the sofa. I also asked if we could do cim and she said it was an extra 50 euros. This didn’t make me happy since I knew that it was 25 euros extra here (sessions were already 80 euros, more than in most other clubs) and sometimes it was free. So I said no way and she said ok how much. I said 25 and she said no, so I said forget it then and then she changed her mind right away and said ok. So it was fun, but she was professional about it. She kissed just enough I think so that I couldn’t say she didn’t do it.

Maria, Cz, 19?, looks 10, attitude 8

Maria was the gorgeous one. She was tall with long straight fluffy silky brown hair. She had a perfect athletic figure. She looked like a supermodel. She is one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen in a club in Germany. We went to the room and had straightforward sex, but she was so sexy it couldn’t have been better. She kissed, but not passionately. It didn’t matter. I was surprised how much of a difference it made to be with a girl like that hot.

I relaxed for a while, exploring the club (which doesn’t take long) and having a few drinks. I struck up a few conversations with other guys. One asked me where I worked an I said I didn’t want to say because my employer would be unhappy if he knew I was there. He pointed across the room and said “I don’t have that problem; that’s my boss over there.”

Gina, Thailand, 24?, looks 7, attitude 10

Gina was probably the only girl left that I was interested in. She was a tiny skinny Thai girl with typical straight black hair down to her shoulders and a flat chest. We started kissing and decided to stay in the main room where we went at it for quite a while. I didn’t finish, but still it was nice. She was totally friendly and passionate and did everything I wanted. I liked her, but when it was over I thought I had done the club for that night, so I went to Sudbad in Koln.

Sudbad

St. Augustine had just closed and it was on the way to Sudbad, so I drove past just to take a look and verify with my own eyes that it was indeed gone forever. When I arrived at Sudbad, I recognized the woman at the desk who had worked at St. Augustine and we smiled at each other. I wondered if maybe I had found it again at a new location. The club was small, but opulent, with red velvet everywhere including on the bar and on the big plush sofas, and with roman columns and statues. There was a bed right in the main room next to the bar.

Anita, Hungary, 22?, looks 8, attitude 6

I even recognized some of the girls from SA. (I had also noticed a couple at Berndt’s too.) There was also a nice new Hungarian girl named Anita, who had straight shiny reddish brown shoulder length hair. We did it on one of the big red sofas in front of the public bed. It was fine, with some kissing, but after all the sex I had had at Berndt’s I couldn’t finish, and she seemed impatient to get rid of me.

There was another nice girl with frizzy black hair that covered her shoulders. She told me before we started that normally she would do bbbj and kiss me, but she couldn’t then because she had some infection or other problem with her mouth. I thanked her for being honest and said that I would see her another day when she could give me 100 percent.

Catalyst
07-06-06, 06:10
Gentlemen,

Here is another historical report on several clubs, including Babylon. I have two more historical reports on Germany, which I will post here since this branch is not very active. This will minimize the distractions from current reporting on other branches.

Jackyo
07-06-06, 11:54
.. but she grew up in the Ruhr somewhere so her German is very good. She is blonde, petite, with large real tits. She has a beautiful pussy with large lips. Very wet.

She was there the last time I was there (the time I was double billed and swore I'd never go back).

There is another blonde, Laura. She is German, tall, thin, small tits. She is a Rheinlander who used to work as a hairdresser until she became allergic to the chemicals and decided to change professions. She also has very large pussy lips. Very wet too.

The last time I was there, they were part of their first team.

The other women were kind of recognizable but obviously didn't make enough of an impression on me.

Shirina, unfortunately, has retired and now works as a Thenkenfrau.

I've had good times at this club but unless I read reports about it changing, I'm staying away. That double billing episode left a very sour taste in my mouth.

Catalyst
07-07-06, 00:08
This was a one day only trip to Babylon and Beverly. This is mostly a blow by blow account without so many jokes or stories, but I might as well post the full set of reports:
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Babylon

I only had one day in Germany on this trip and I wanted to try Beverly. So I thought I would get started early with a visit to Babylon, which is nearby and is more of a daytime club, so the two visits would complement each other nicely. When I arrived the selection was not great, particularly compared with the larger clubs that I had gotten used to. Feeling tired and jet lagged I sat around for a couple of hours.

There was a gorgeous blonde girl and a nice girl with short wavy brown hair. I asked the beautiful blonde if we could do it on the circular bed in the center of the room and she said no. I waited and then went over to the nice brown haired girl. She was lying on a sofa segment that jutted into the center of the room and I asked her if we could do it there. She said yes.

Stella, Croatian, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7

We had a nice round right there in the main room. There weren’t many people around, though, since they had mostly gone to rooms together. That was fine because after a long time going at it we did a nice cim that maybe she wouldn’t have wanted to do if the room was full. She said she was going to shower and would come talk with me afterwards, but I didn’t see her after that.

Laura, German, 20? looks 9, attitude 8

After having done it in the main room I was willing to compromise with the gorgeous blonde. She had very long straight soft silky hair and was tall and slinky. We went downstairs by the fireplace. She was warm and friendly and she was so hot that I came in about two minutes. I joked with her about how long I took with poor Stella.

Li, Philippines, 25?, looks 6, attitude 8

I wanted to do one more round before going. There was a thin girl with frizzy black hair who wasn’t bad, but she was with a guy just hanging out, not even going to the room, so I gave up. I picked a nice Philippine girl who was not bad and would have been great except that she was a little heavy. We did it on the circular sofa in the middle of the room. Once we got going I looked up and the guy and the frizzy black haired girl were doing it on the sofa right in front of us, and right next to them Stella was going at it with another guy. Li looked up at me with a smile and said “it’s nice, isn’t it?” After a long round with her I finished in her mouth and then hurried up to go to Beverly.

Beverly

The club is in the middle of nowhere, but it is at the end of a long winding road and there aren’t many wrong turns you can make. I had to buy a pair of their black underwear since I didn’t have anything appropriate of my own to wear. I wandered around and after a long while I saw a nice black haired girl and an ok blonde doing a couple of guys. I was envying the guy with the black haired girl when the blonde invited me over and started blowing me. But I wasn’t really into her and when the black haired girl finished with her guy she looked at me and at the risk of being rude I switched to her. At first I thought these were regular girls, but now it think it is more likely they were being paid, so I don’t feel bad about dumping the blonde.

After that I was pretty worn out. I went to the dance floor and got into a suggestive dance with a tall girl with long frizzy black hair who didn’t look bad, but I didn’t pursue her. If I were feeling more energetic I would have, but I didn’t want to get started and then have to lamely explain in broken German that I’m sorry, but you are my fifth girl tonight, so it’s not your fault, but etc ... So I hung out a little longer and then left.

Catalyst
07-07-06, 00:21
Janaka

This day I knew what I wanted. I went straight to Janaka and had another great time with her. I thought of taking her up on her offer of inviting another girl, but there weren’t any girls I had been with that were good enough to pair up with her, and I had run into some duds and didn’t want to risk a 200 euro or more session on an untested girl. I was feeling worn out after three days and I knew I could take my time with Janaka, but another girl might start whining that I was taking too long. Plus I could do it with Janaka in the main room.

We did it on the sofa against the back wall of the main room by the entrance to the kino. I especially remember doing reverse cowgirl with her while she twisted around to kiss me. Afterwards we went back to the kino for cim and more conversation. It was another great session which might or might not have been more than a half hour. I’m sure she wouldn’t have said anything if I had only paid her for a half hour plus cim but I gave her 150 again anyway.

Ileana, 27, German , looks 7, attitude 4

I probably should have done Janaka again, but I was feeling limp and I didn’t want to be struggling to finish with her. I knew that she would put in a huge effort and probably make me cum in her mouth. Then I’d end up spending another 150 euros, and my costs were already out of control for these three days. There were still some cute girls that I hadn’t yet gotten to even if they weren’t as cute as her.

Ileana said she’d do it in the main room near the reception, but then was argumentative about it after we started. We went to the sofa which was hidden by the plants in the back and after a short bj she sat on me facing me. But she kept demanding to know why I wanted to do it there; meanwhile she wouldn’t kiss, so it wasn’t that great anyway. She wasn’t enjoying it, no one could see us anyway, and even if they could they would see only the lukewarm spectacle of a poor punter being given a difficult time by a whiny girl. I thought maybe she would warm up in the private room, so I gave in.

Well, it didn’t get any better. We went to one of the rooms by the pool and she was very thorough about making sure the entryway was sealed off tight so no one could catch the smallest glimpse inside no matter how hard they tried. There wasn’t anything exciting happening that anyone would care to see anyway, but she knew I liked doing it in public, so I think she needed to eliminate any possibility of anyone catching a passing glance at two heads or a bobbing back because her goal was to prevent me from deriving any enjoyment at all from the session. She still wouldn’t kiss, and we were in more of a hurry than before. I thought getting started again would make it last longer, but it didn’t. Even though it was lousy I popped since this was my last session. I regretted not having seen Janaka.

Maybe I should have saved that pop and gone one more time with Janaka, but money was getting to be a concern. After finishing with Ileana I even considered doing a 50 euro session with Janaka just cuddling, not having sex. I left on the early side, in time for dinner. I was worn out and wanted to try relaxing at the end of my last day and reflecting on the good times I had had instead of cramming the maximum amount of sex into every single day. It was a nice way to end my trip for a change, but I think I prefer the usual strategy.

Catalyst
07-07-06, 00:23
i arrived around lunch time, before many of the girls had showed up. i remember first noticing janaka in the warm sunshine when they served the barbecue outside in the garden. she is a cross between a california girl and the girl next door. she is small with sandy blonde hair, a few freckles, a shy smile, and an absolutely perfect athletic killer body. i got something to eat and made a mental note to give her something to put in her mouth after she was done eating and there was more room in it.

janaka, 22, poland, looks 10, attitude 10

after a snack and some wandering around i went inside to look for action. she showed a half hour later and sat on one of the sofas in the main room near the bar. i was nervous that i would freak her out, but i asked if we could do it right there on the couch. she asked if we could go to the couch against the far wall in the back of the room and i said fine. we were hidden by the ferns that divided the room, but we were still visible to anyone who came back there or who sat by the wall in the main area.

she was wonderful and sweet. she kissed nicely, and everything was hot and real. as i started building to a climax i asked if i could finish in her mouth and she said sure. she was so beautiful and this was so perfect. i wanted it to be just right. i was like a nervous bride on her wedding night. i pulled out and made a mess all over her mouth and tits and she did nice cleanup afterwards. it was amazing.

looking back, i’m not sure why i went with anyone else after that. i wanted variety and wondered what other fantastic women i might meet if my luck could be this good, or maybe i didn’t think i had another big pop in me and i didn’t want to struggle to finish with this supermodel; i wanted to save her for when i was fully charged.

leticia, 23, german, looks 7, attitude 5

so i tried leticia. she had a voluptuous slutty busty anna nicole smith look. she had thick wavy black hair and a bit of extra fat, though it was all in the right places. i was wary when she told me she was german. she didn’t want to do it in public and the rooms inside were all too hot because of the weather, so we went to one of the cabins outside.

she started with a powerpoint presentation. she explained to me that sex costs 50 euros, but it is possible to upgrade with additional services, including cumming in her mouth. cumming in her mouth costs an additional 50 euros. if i want to cum in her mouth i have to decide now. did i want to cum in her mouth?

i said no and got ready for the mechanized experience that i knew was about to take place. the sex was as commercial as her presentation. there was no kissing and it was unemotional. i could tell that i wasn’t going to finish quickly and after a short while i decided to stretch it out and get my money’s worth. also, since i am no longer 18 years old, i decided not to waste any valuable cum inside her that i could instead deposit all over the mouth of some more willing and beautiful girl.

when it was over i didn’t complain, but i was cool. she asked me if i was dissatisfied and i said no. she looked at me nervously and said that she had the feeling that i didn’t enjoy it. maybe she was just worried that i was going to complain to the manager or trash her on the internet, but i was hopeful that she was genuinely surprised and disappointed that i didn’t like it.

so i told her i had a suggestion for her. i told her that if you tell a guy “here’s how it works. sex costs 50 euros, but it is possible to upgrade with additional services, including cumming in my mouth. cumming in my mouth costs an additional 50 euros. if you want to cum in my mouth you have to decide now. do you want to cum in my mouth?” he will say “no” ... if you tell a guy [spoken softly, touching her arm] “ ... i love you ...” he’ll say “can i cum in your mouth? i’ll give you an extra 50 euros!”

so i rested for a while, had a bit to eat, and got back to business.

janaka (again)

after a bad session i wanted a sure thing, so i went back to janaka. she was happy to do it in public again, but she wanted to go into the second main room with the dancing pole since there weren’t as many people there. we sat on the sofa in the center of the room, directly in front of the dancing pole. we chatted, kissed, fondled, and did oral sex on each other. she put a condom on me and just as she sat on me in cowgirl the show started. the room went dark, the music suddenly blared, the strobe light came on, and a girl came out and started dancing right in front of us as people streamed into the room. the dancing girl wasn’t very cute, but we were right in front of her and everyone was watching us; we were the real show (or at least janaka was). so moving to a more secluded area to have more privacy didn't work out so well for janaka, but i thought it was great.

we had a great time in different positions and again i wanted to finish in her mouth. but blasting all over her tongue in front of a room full of people seemed like it might be pushing it. if you have hot sex with a girl in front of everyone that is great publicity for her, but some guys get turned off if they see you finish in her mouth because they don’t want to kiss it after that. so i suggested we finish in the kino and she agreed. in the kino she went wild on me. i was still worn out so i was having trouble finishing and even suggested giving up, but she would have none of it. she blew me and blew me and finally i came all over her mouth. we talked a bit without her cleaning up, and then she blew me some more.

we stayed and talked. she thought being at the club was just work most of the time, though once in a while it was fun. she said it was a problem between her and her boyfriend. i asked her if it was hard for her when she went home to her boyfriend and had been having sex all day and now he wanted sex too and she said no, more sex was always good. we both agreed that the porno videos that the club showed – blurry bargain basement films with ugly ageing women swinging droopy grapefruit-sized blobs of silicone at fat middle-aged men grunting and sweating while having awkward and crass anal sex – were distasteful and it was incomprehensible that a club that spent so much on its facilities would show such disregard for everyone’s sensibilities to save a few euros on dvds. i asked her if she liked having sex with two girls and she said yes, then smiled and stuck out her tongue and wiggled it. when she said it was time to go we had probably been together for more than an hour, though she never mentioned extra time or extra money. i gave her 150 and she seemed quite happy.

stephania (again)

i had experimented with leticia and regretted it, and not many girls would do it in the main room, so i went back to stephania who had been pretty good the first time. but this time it was close to a rip off. maybe it was more crowded, so she had more to gain by rushing me, or maybe she thought she could take advantage of me because i stopped the previous session without finishing. the bj lasted about thirty seconds and after about 5 minutes she was complaining that i was taking too long. i ended it pretty quickly without finishing. i regret not complaining that i wanted a full session. after that i was pissed off and had no intention of ever going back to her.

katya, 23, russia, looks 7, attitude 7

it was late and i was looking for one last round. katya had the usual russian look with very fluffy blow dried blonde hair. she didn’t have an hourglass figure, but she looked athletic and sexy. we did it on the sofa in the main room next to the entrance to the kino. she acted distracted and not really into it, but it was fine. afterwards we chatted and she told me that she was there by herself with no friends or family. her parents were divorced and it sounded like she was alone and had nowhere to go. it all sounded very sad, and i didn’t think she was playing it up to get sympathy. on the contrary she seemed reluctant to talk about it and i had to draw it out of her.

Catalyst
07-07-06, 00:26
i arrived at oase early on a warm sunny afternoon eager to have sex in the main room in front of everyone, but wary about how the girls would react to the request. pretty quickly girls started approaching me with come-ons, including a nice looking estonian girl with black hair, but i turned her and a couple of other nice ones away. i wanted to start with public sex and i was going to turn down a girl who said no to the request. i figured the girl wouldn’t like this, would argue that i should take her to the room, and it might be hard to go back to her if i didn’t. so i didn’t start by asking the best girls. i started by asking girls that i could afford to turn down and risk offending if they said they would only go to the room.

isabelle, 27?, poland, looks 6, attitude 4

isabelle fit that description. she was not bad looking, with wavy light brown hair and decent c cups. she came on with an aggressive sales pitch and agreed right away to the request. we got right down to rushed business. she kissed some, but wasn’t very warm. it was hot sex in front of everyone, though. at one point when we were going at it in reverse cowgirl the estonian girl passed by and made some remark that i didn’t catch, but she was angry that i had picked someone else, someone who wasn’t even as good looking as her no less. soon isabelle started to complain about how long i was taking. it wasn’t superb so i decided that it would be better to save my load for someone better and i agreed to stop. afterwards we were total strangers.

now that i was warmed up my next target was a tall girl with short dark hair. i went and sat next to her and asked if she wanted to do it right there. she got excited and told me i was crazy, so i smiled and got up. but then she came over to me a minute later and told me that her friend would do it. her friend was better looking than her anyway, so that was great.

stephania, 20, germany, looks 7, attitude 6

stephania had a pretty face with long wavy dark blonde hair but a flat chest. we sat together on the sofa in the corner opposite the kino and the bar. she was very friendly and open, with good kissing. we started in cowgirl and then i put her down on the large red sofa and banged away. after going at it for a long time i told her that i didn’t know how long i was going to take and i wanted to see her again later, so i didn’t want to take too long and make her want to avoid me. so we stopped. she asked me to come to her before i saw other girls next time so i would finish with her and she would enjoy it more.

i went out to the garden and passed the estonian girl sitting on one of the benches by the exit from the pool. she said she’d do me right there if i wanted. it actually sounded like a pretty good offer, but i wasn’t sure i wanted to try again right away after not finishing with stephania, and maybe i was also put off by her tone, which was harsh, even angry.

a while later i saw her on the sofa in the main room near the bar. she was with an older guy and she got down in front of him to blow him. i sat on a sofa facing them and watched. it was slow and nice, with pauses to move up and dfk him. she periodically looked over at me and smiled, though i wasn’t sure if this was meant as a friendly sales pitch or a taunt. the guy had a huge idiotic smile on his face like he couldn’t believe what was happening. after 20 or 30 minutes i was sitting in the pole dance room when she peeked in. i got up to go ask her if she wanted to go with me, but she had already walked out. i followed her past the bar, past the pool, and into the garden. when i asked her if she was free she said sorry she was busy though she clearly wasn’t. she needed an attitude adjustment. in spite of being beautiful she didn't seem to be spending a lot of time in the rooms. i wonder what it was like with that older guy once he got to the room with her; did she turn to ice when i was no longer watching?

sammy, 27, german-hungarian, looks 7, attitude 6

i asked a few more girls to do it with me in the main room and didn’t have great luck. sammy smiled with embarrassment when i asked but agreed. she had a thick but fit figure with neck length black hair and freckles. we sat together on a sofa against the wall dividing the room from the kino. it was disappointing that she wouldn’t kiss, but other than that major drawback she had a pretty good attitude. we did it for a long time before i decided that i couldn’t finish. afterwards she would give me a big mischievous smile whenever we passed each other.

jasmine, 22, german, looks 8, attitude 9

jasmine was slightly overweight, but otherwise looked super sexy. she had a beautiful face with short straight golden hair. i sat with her and asked her if we could do it right there on the sofa and she said yes. she was great. after a long bj she sat on me and we went at it for a while in cowgirl before i laid her down on the big red sofa and got on top of her. the deep kissing was great. unfortunately i still couldn’t finish and after a good while i called it quits.

sunny, 20, german/brazilian, looks 7, attitude 9

sunny was small and thin with small but nice breasts. she had frizzy red hair that looked unnatural, particularly in combination with her olive toned skin. she wouldn’t do it in the main room with me, but she was fine with doing it in the kino. we sat on the sofa by the door where everyone could see us anyway except that it was darker than in the main room. we had nice sex with lots of kissing and different positions. we ended up with me on top of her and after several sessions without finishing i pulled out and exploded a whole day’s buildup all over her mouth, making a total porno mess all over her face and tits. it was great.

Catalyst
07-07-06, 00:28
The debate is now moot. Everything I've got on Germany has now been posted. The next report will be a current one. Hopefully it will be soon.

Just another reminder - these are not reposts of old reports. These are reports of old experiences, but I only wrote them up recently and this is the only time they have ever been posted.

I hope on balance people appreciated seeing them, that there weren't too many of them, and that the past has some lessons for the present. If I had it to do over I would post them all on one inactive thread for those who are interested without spreading them out and creating distractions on other threads.

Jackyo
11-26-06, 13:22
Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.

When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.

A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.

Pre-session couch time and the session in the room don't need to be described. At clubs these days the pre-session is just about disappearing but that is another topic.

After you had your session with your partner at Babylon, you both would leave the room to shower. When you made your way back into the Kontaktzimmer she would find you, ask you if you wanted something to drink, would bring it to you and with sit with you.

Depending on how well you got along with her in the room, she would either just sit and make chitchat and then eventually move or if your chemistry with her was really good, you could have fairly intensive contact with her.

If she found you entertaining and vice versa, and there was nothing going on in the club, these sessions extended your overall session.

I've given massages at post-coital sessions.

Sandra brought me chips once after a session and as we munched I redid her pubic hair coiffure and displayed the results to the rest of the room.

Some guys were real masters at making this post-coital session last and last. Sometimes guys forget that they are women and they like to be charmed and entertained too.

The post-coital session has totally disappeared. There are no clubs which offer it. Not even Bernds offers a post-coital session which is an equivalent.

I used to think it was a nice touch and it is what had me returning to Babylona and Wiago despite the highest prices per session in the country: 80 Euros for the first thirty minutes, 65 for the second thirty minutes.

These two clubs were required stops for every visit I ever made. But no longer.

Dedalus
11-26-06, 15:06
Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.

When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.

A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.

These two clubs were required stops for every visit I ever made. But no longer.



Ah, Nostalgia ain't what it use to be ;-)))

Cheers,

Dedalus

Jackyo
11-26-06, 15:26
Ah, Nostalgia ain't what it use to be ;-)))

Cheers,

Dedalus

Before all of the buzz about clubs down in Hessen, the buzz used to be about the Red Carpets.. then it moved to Babylon and Wiago... then PHG was the rage... and then Atlantis (now defunct) and Oase were the place the be.. and there was even a time when Fantasyland (now defunct) was probably the best club in all of Germany.. then World opened up.

Clubs have their day and then something either better comes along or they have their missteps.

The only club which has been consistent through all of this whole time has been Bernds. And if anyone were to make a prediction, in thirty years Bernds will still be there.

James 006
11-26-06, 16:26
Hey,

I will be around Frankfurt for Christmas (23.12-01.01)

Someone around?

I wonder if the FKK is open or if there is action in some sexy places.

Drop me a pm and we catch up.

Akibono
11-26-06, 21:12
[QUOTE=Jackyo]Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.

When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.

A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.

Pre-session couch time and the session in the room don't need to be described. At clubs these days the pre-session is just about disappearing but that is another topic.

After you had your session with your partner at Babylon, you both would leave the room to shower. When you made your way back into the Kontaktzimmer she would find you, ask you if you wanted something to drink, would bring it to you and with sit with you.

Depending on how well you got along with her in the room, she would either just sit and make chitchat and then eventually move or if your chemistry with her was really good, you could have fairly intensive contact with her.
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The reason PC time existed in the past was because many customers would use that time to relax and then start another session with the girl. It was in the girls interest to spend some time with you instead of hunt for another customer. I remember at Atlantis some guys would have multiple sessions with the same girls. There was a girl named Sia who had a boyfriend who would spend the entire evening with her. He would spend at least 400E each session. With that enducement, you can see why PC time exists. Now, it is more of a churn and burn atmosphere.

Jackyo
11-27-06, 13:14
Hey,

I will be around Frankfurt for Christmas (23.12-01.01)

Someone around?

I wonder if the FKK is open or if there is action in some sexy places.


In answer to your question, this is what Devilinside had to say about Christmas and early January at the beginning of this year in answer to a similar question posted on the RF.


also in der weihnachtszeit, sowie zwischen den jahren, neujahr und meist auch noch in der ersten januarwoche ist doch wohl von jedem mit gesundem menschenverstand denkendem mann, zu erwarten dass er weiss dass auch in den grossclubs erheblich weniger frauen am arbeiten sind.
auch wenn es manche nicht glauben wollen, auch die meisten unserer mädels haben familie und wollen + sollen diese tage auch ausserhalb der so von uns geliebten clubs geniessen dürfen.
das wird sich auch die nächsten jahre nicht ändern.
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Summary: It is to be expected that at Christmas, between the years and the first week in January that there be fewer women working. Some of you might not believe it but most of these women have families and would prefer to spend that time outside of our beloved clubs.

Reports written on World at the end of last December also talked about how there were fewer women there than normally.

Jackyo
11-27-06, 13:52
There are two Ex-Babylon girls who I have run into at other clubs:

Samya: Pia, German, blonde, large tits, mollig. I remember her from back in 99 during my first visit there. I've also spotted her at Wiago. Very communicative. She has an attitude, can be extremely funny. An acquired taste though and probably too much for a newbie or non-German speaker. Typically ungeschminkt.

Bernds: Monika, Hungarian, dark hair, beauty spot near her lips (on her face! - forget which side), petite. The first time I saw her I thought she might have been Brazilian but she isn't. First seen at Wiago. Great service and attitude. Fitting into her is like finding the right glove size: nice, warm and cozy.

Jackyo
02-04-07, 23:09
This was my favorite club for the longest time.

I don't know whether this RF report is indicative of an upswing hence I put it in quotes from its author, 2sepp.




[Bericht] Babylon Elsdorf Positive Überraschung

Da es am Freitag im GT absolut zu voll war (nicht mehr lustig, unerträgliche Wartezeiten), bin ich mißmutig nach Köln zurück.
Also auf die A61 und nach langer Zeit nochmal im Babylon in Elsdorf vorbeigeschaut.
Erste Überraschung schon am Eintritt. JAQUELINE + Claudia, die Besten und lustigsten Thekenfrauen der Welt sind wieder da. Scheinbar ist auch Maggi, die den Club in seinen besten Zeiten geführt hat, wieder da.
Zweite Überraschung beim Eintritt in den Club: nachdem in letzter Zeit das Niveau des ehedem Besten Clubs im Großraum Köln doch etwas angegraut und abgesunken war, erblicken meine Äuglein nun eine auf mindestens 10-12 geschätzte Zahl wunderschöner Mädels, darunter einige ganz besondere Schüsse... Es muß wohl vor kurzer Zeit einen Besitzerwechsel gegeben haben...Superstimmung, gutes Essen. Superservice meiner beiden Mädels (50 €). Preis ok. Die sind auf dem richtigen Weg zu alter Pracht. Mein Abend war mehr als gerettet!! EMPFEHLENSWERT!!!!

Fazit: Jacqueline and Claudia (I know exactly who these two are) are back and apparently, Maggi, the former owner is back. There were from ten to twelve stunners there. He speculates that it has to do with the change in ownership. The Stimmung was great, so was the food. Pricing was 50 Euros per session. He highly recommends this.

(I should note that this dude doesn't have many posts under his belt - don't know if this means anything but credibility is everything.)

Chicafan
02-19-07, 17:07
This was my favorite club for the longest time.

I don't know whether this RF report is indicative of an upswing hence I put it in quotes from its author, 2sepp.

(I should note that this dude doesn't have many posts under his belt - don't know if this means anything but credibility is everything.)I'm still trying to figure out exactly where to go on my next trip and just read this review. I wish it were closer to the Frankfurt area because it fits with my plans but I could easily spend some extra time up by Koln if this club was really outstanding. You posted this on 2/4 and I guess it came from a German board? If this club was that good wouldn't there be some other posts since then confirming? If you happen to see anything else on it please post it.

Thanks.

Jackyo
02-20-07, 10:59
i'm still trying to figure out exactly where to go on my next trip and just read this review. i wish it were closer to the frankfurt area because it fits with my plans but i could easily spend some extra time up by koln if this club was really outstanding. you posted this on 2/4 and i guess it came from a german board? if this club was that good wouldn't there be some other posts since then confirming? if you happen to see anything else on it please post it.

thanks.
... are, however, not to be found.

this club was the club, imho, for a while as it had a very well edited selection of women.

i'll just mention one name here: nina. i've not met a woman since who has even come close in both physical beauty and in attitude.

it has had its problems: allegations of drug use amongst the women. an **** minor was found working there and it was closed for a while. its ownership situation has been murky.

i always made it a point to go even despite the fact that it charged the highest per session rates around (85 euros for the first session) because i always left satistifed. service was very, very good - comparable to bernds - and the women were always very attractive.

what changed things for me was being double billed once. i paid but i don't put these things aside and i am taking my revenge by not returning.

Dedalus
02-20-07, 12:21
I'll just mention one name here: Nina. I've not met a woman since who has even come close in both physical beauty and in attitude.



Yep, Those were the days. That young lady caused me to put many extra Kilometers on my vehicle and drain a number of D-Mark from my bank account.
Truly one that is missed. Many have come close and a few have even equaled her at times. But with all due respect to Cindy, Marina, Maria, Inna and Daniela, none have surpassed her.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hamboner
02-20-07, 18:33
After driving to Monchengladbach in the early AM, I tried unsuccessfully to find FKK Babylon in Elsdorf. I ended up getting lost and with no GPS I was losing valuable time. So I headed towards Dusseldorf with no address hoping to find either La Bedo or Sauna Blue Note. After getting lost in the city, I ended up paying a taxi driver to drive towards Blue Note since he didn't know where La Bedo was. See my report on Blue Note.

Anyways, if someone gets a chance please do report on FKK Bablylon since I couldn't find the target. Website is at babylon-fkk.de

Jackyo
02-21-07, 10:27
Anyways, if someone gets a chance please do report on FKK Bablylon since I couldn't find the target. Website is at babylon-fkk.de
... to get an update too though it will take a lot to convince me that its worth returning.

This club is quite easy to find.

You come off the highway, pass under it and up on the left is a sign "Gewerbegebiet". Make a left and at the traffic circle take the first right. At the next traffic circle make a left and you will be on their street, Ost Strasse. Its a house on the left towards the end of the street.

Jackyo
03-26-07, 11:29
I was reading somewhere that there has been a(nother?) change in management.

http://www.privatclub-babylon.de/

They've renovated the site and have photos of some of the girls.

The only one I have been with is Laura: blonde, German from Olpe (if I remember correctly).

She is tall, has hardly any curves and small tits.

She has very large Schamlippen. I also remember her being very wet and creamy.

Travelforfun
03-26-07, 17:12
Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote and Wiago?

Travelforfun
03-26-07, 17:15
Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?

Jackyo
03-27-07, 02:44
Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?
.. I was asking myself too when I saw her photo.

I would like to know myself!

Travelforfun
04-02-07, 15:28
Can anyone give the price structure for the place and also guide how to reach the place by public transport from Koln or Dusseldorf.

Marlow
04-02-07, 22:08
It's not easy to get too by public transport. When you do you will find a whole new set up. For example this Wednesday they have a GB party for 50 euros, that's after you've paid the 50 euro entry. Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?). New or rather revitalised management makes the place worth thinking about again. They have a totally new website as Jackyo points out. Normal price is entrance 50euro, standard once around the block 50euros. the site tells you what the girls will do as extras. My advice is to ring the number on the site, as the lady who runs it probably speaks English.

Jackyo
04-02-07, 23:48
It's not easy to get too by public transport. When you do you will find a whole new set up. For example this Wednesday they have a GB party for 50 euros, that's after you've paid the 50 euro entry. Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?). New or rather revitalised management makes the place worth thinking about again. They have a totally new website as Jackyo points out. Normal price is entrance 50euro, standard once around the block 50euros. the site tells you what the girls will do as extras. My advice is to ring the number on the site, as the lady who runs it probably speaks English.
.... and then let us know how it is these days.

Jacqueline is normally the woman who takes your entrance fee at the door.

If not, Shirina does. She used to work the other side of the counter, now has changed sides.

I have a friend who gets very weak in the knees when you mention Shirina's name.

She was (and still probably is) very, very good though it may take some doing to convince her to change her job description. She has officially retired.

Toscana
04-03-07, 09:19
Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?).
Those ISG pink bunny slippers should come in just fine once more.

Jackyo
04-03-07, 11:25
Can anyone give the price structure for the place and also guide how to reach the place by public transport from Koln or Dusseldorf.
.. from Koeln or Duesseldorf is rather difficult.

I looked into it since I used to visit very often.

Details on transport are available on the Verkehrsverband Rhein-Ruhr website:

www.vrr.de

There is a bus which takes you to Elsdorf but I've never figured out which bus stop to get off at. Worse comes to worse, get off at the Stadtmitte and take a cab.

Travelforfun
04-03-07, 12:59
Thanks guys.. hopefully will get time to visit the place later this month.

Prices seem a little higher as compared to my fav BN and Labedo but then again everything has a price and i hope the place justifies its price structure.

Jackyo
04-06-07, 11:03
This comes from Youppie and was written by Bou just yesterday.


suite à l'EV positive et les belles photos j'y suis passé vendredi dernier vers 19 h 30 - 20 H

Le club en soit est bien sans plus mais alors au niveau présence féminine collosal catastrophe : à l'arrivée 3 filles - à 20 h : plus que deux

J'ai attendu +/- 1 heure, le temps d'un sauna et d'un petit repas et ne voyant rien sortir de chambre ou arriver : j'ai demandé à la barmaid combien de filles fréquentait l'établissement

Elle m'a répondu un peu génée : ben pour le moment deux -il est un peu tard
normal vendredi 20 h alors que le club affiche une fermeture à 1 h du mat

Normallement en journée entre 6 - 10 filles

Fallait le savoir

Merci un coca svp et départ pour d'autres cieux

Sommaire: He was there last Friday between 19:30 and 20:00. There weren't enough women. He waited more or less an hour, did the sauna, had something to eat. He asked the Thekenfrau how many women there were and she said only two. The club closes at 1 AM on Friday evenings. Normally there are between six to ten women. He left for greener pastures.

Jackyo
04-07-07, 11:23
Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?
.. works here.

This is from Teddybaer on the RF.


Ansonsten kann ich aus eigener Erfahrung nur Lilijane und Melanie empfehlen.Mit beiden hatte ich im Wiago das Vergnügen.
Lilijane ist Ukrainerin ? mit aufgepeppter OW und geht sehr gut mit.
He also recommends Melanie.

Coxswain
05-05-07, 06:03
This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.

Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)

When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.

Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.

NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.

On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.

Coxswain

Jackyo
05-06-07, 19:29
This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.

Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)

When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.

Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.

NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.

On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.

Coxswain
Thanks CS!

I've pondered this topic for a while. I know there is a bus which goes to Elsdorf. What I've not figured out is which bus stop is the closest to Oststrasse.

I even went for a drive in the town once to try to figure this out but didn't conclude anything.

There is a Busbahnhof there. There is also an Arnoldusstrasse (or Schule) bus stop.

As this was my Stammclub for the longest time (and where I came across Nina), this club will always be on my watchlist.

Marlow
05-07-07, 12:21
Hope this is of some help to folks making the journey to Babylon in the hope of finding a cornucopia of delights, then go to their German page via freiermagazin.de. click on PLZ5 (postal district) and then on the club, and then the webpage in small type. Some great pictures taken by one Tom and the current dates of when which girls will be in the club and also what they do. Whether the club under the newly inspired management actually lives up to the promise of the webpage - let us all know, please.

Jackyo
05-07-07, 12:30
Hope this is of some help to folks making the journey to Babylon in the hope of finding a cornucopia of delights, then go to their German page via freiermagazin.de. click on PLZ5 (postal district) and then on the club, and then the webpage in small type. Some great pictures taken by one Tom and the current dates of when which girls will be in the club and also what they do. Whether the club under the newly inspired management actually lives up to the promise of the webpage - let us all know, please.
Thanks, Marlow.

Those two photos are of Liliane.

Their website, by the way, is http://www.privatclub-babylon.de/

Laura and Verona are still there, I noted. Photos of Laura are available, none for Verona though.

And if anyone is interested in just how good Liliane is, here is a report from the RF by Ford Fairlane.


Hallo,

durch zufall habe ich erfahren das Liliane nun im Babylon zu finden st, das liegt zwar nicht wirklich in miner Nähe aber Liliane war schon immer eine Reise wert.
Nun der Club selber ist nicht der schönste was die Einirichtung und aufteilung angeht....
Die an diesem Tag anzutreffendne Damen Mitte dieser Woche) waren zuerst nicht (für) mein Ding, ca 4 Damen im Hause.
Kann nicht sagen wer das war da ich nu wirklich keinerlei interesse an ihnen hatte...aber nach ca 30 min erschien Liliane auf der Bildfläche. Also nicht lange gefackelt sondern gleich zu ihr auf das Sofa... wir haben uns kurz unterhalten (2min) da setzte sie sich auf mich und dann gab es wunderbare feuchte ZK, sie zog ihr Oberteil aus und lies mich an ihren Titten saugen und stöhnte nett dabei, dann ging sie auf die Knie und fing an heftigst, tief und feucht im Clubraum an zu blasen...ich dacht oh-ha einfach so vor allen Leuten...aber was soll ich sagen es war einfach zu geil...nachdem sie meinen Kumpel mit dem Mund so richtig nett verwöhnt hatte gabe es noch eine feine spanisch einlage von ihr und war kurz vorm platzen...sie griff zu ihrer Tasche und ich dacht es geht aufs Zimmer, falsch, sie zog mir ein Gummi über und ritt mich mit allem was ging, sie stöhnte, sie verbog sich, streckte sich um nach 10 min laut stöhnend zu kommen (keine Ahnung ob das echt war, aber es war sehr geil)...als sie sah das ich noch nicht soweit war meinte sie nur was sei sie doch für eine Schlampe nahm mich mit und sorgte rittlings auf dem Zimmer für eine erste entspannung meinerseits.
Nach einer kurzen Pause fing sie wieder an zu blasen, wieder sehr tief und feucht, sie leckte alles was ihr vor die Zunge kam, sie massierte mich anal und blies dabei bis ich nochmal kam....wow...was für eine Stunde..

Fazit: Der Club gefällt nicht aber die performance von Liliane...wahnsinn. Laut der Homepage arbeiten dort noch mehr sehr nette Mädels, von denen war aber leider niemand vor Ort.
Fazit: There were about four other women there but Liliane was the reason why he had gone to the club. They talk for a couple of minutes and then they have couch action. She gives him a BJ on the couch and reaches for her bag. He thinks its because they are going to a room but no, she puts a rubber on his dick and rides him on the couch for ten minutes in front of everyone until she comes (he has no idea if it was for real but it was really sexy) and only after that did they go to a room to take care of his release. He isn't a fan of the club facilities or the way its set up (I think its perfectly fine. I first visited in 99 when they used to have a pool downstairs). The website shows some really nice women but apparently the selection on that day wasn't his thing.

In my experience, there aren't many clubs where the women will just ride you right there on the couch in full view of everyone else. I've seen (and experienced it) at Babylon, Bernds and a couple of Red Carpet clubs.

Marlow
05-08-07, 09:20
Jackyo
the sting is in the tail of Ford's report, namely that none of the girls listed on the website (outside the one he had) were there. With some searching through the Freiermagazin site I did come across photos of Verona at another club. I suspect there's a link up between Freiermagazin and Babylon in terms of ownership or partnership.

Jackyo
05-08-07, 20:21
Jackyo
the sting is in the tail of Ford's report, namely that none of the girls listed on the website (outside the one he had) were there. With some searching through the Freiermagazin site I did come across photos of Verona at another club. I suspect there's a link up between Freiermagazin and Babylon in terms of ownership or partnership.
Sounds like they play "bait and switch" here.

I'll keep a look out for further reports on how things are.

I spent many whole days here observing female flesh, learning about female anatomy and the niceties of FKK club etiquette (yes, there is such a thing).

Would be nice if this club would make a comeback.

Jackyo
05-11-07, 08:01
This is from Flahute on the RF.

He was there on Wednesday and then again on Thursday.

So many of these reports to read, so little time particularly to do translations.


[Bericht] Meine Premiere im Babylon, Mi. + Do.

Liliana, Sie ist oder war der Grund für meinen Erstbesuch im Babylon.

Letzte Woche schaute ich mir die Homepage an und sehe Ihre Fotos.
Die Frau hat ein bildhübsches Gesicht, ich suche ob ich Berichte über Sie finde und werde auch sehr schnell fündig.
Sie hat schon einige Stationen hinter sich und stets wurde Ihr Service gelobt.

Okay, dann erweitere ich mal meinen Horizont und plane in bälde einen
Ausflug nach Elsdorf. Das sind von mir leider 125 km.

Diese Woche Dienstag schaue ich noch mal auch die HP des Clubs und sehe die Neuzugänge Estefania und Domenica.
Bildhübsche Frauen die das Herz eines Optikfixierten Paysex Konsumenten
wie ich es nun mal einer bin höher schlagen lassen.

Mittwoch habe ich Zeit, Liliana und Domenica sollen anwesend sein.

Die Homepage ist im übrigen sehr schön gestaltet, Informativ und mit einer tagesaktuellen Anwesenheitsliste ausgestattet.
Die Mädchen sind zum aller größten teil mit Fotos
vertreten und Ihr Servicespektrum wird ebenfalls gelistet.
Am Mittwoch vergewissere ich mich um 13.30 Uhr telefonisch ob Liliana und Domenica auch tatsächlich anwesend sind.
Yes Sir, Sie sind da. Schön, dann kann’s ja losgehen.

Im Hinterhof geparkt und dann um Einlass gebeten. Mir wurde geöffnet und ich outete mich als Erstbesucher. Nachdem ich das Startgeld, man nennt es auch Eintritt, in Höhe von € 50,- abgedrückt hatte wurde mir von einem Mädchen der Club gezeigt.
Vorher entledigte ich mich allerdings in der Umkleide meiner Alltagsklamotten, sperrte diese in den Spind und band mir ein Handtuch um meine Hüften.

Unten, wo die Umkleide ist, sind auch 2 Saunen, eine Dusche mehre Sofas und Couchen und es geht zur Terrasse die bei gutem Wetter genutzt werden kann. Zu diesem Zeitpunkt war unten allerdings nur leere. Wie ich spä*** feststellen konnte spielte sich, zumindest an diesem Tag, fast alles eine Etage höher ab.

Dort hin ging es dann. Ein großer Tisch mit mehreren Stühlen, demgegenüber das Essen, eine Bar und eine große Sitzlandlandschaft in U Form und inmitten eine Liegestätte wo ich auch sogleich die erste öffentliche Action in Augenschein nehmen konnte. Ganz oben sind die Zimmer und auch noch Duschgelegenheiten.

So, nachdem ich nun die Räumlichkeiten kennen gelernt habe bestelle ich erstmal ein Wasser.Alkoholfreie Getränke sind im Eintrittspreis inkludiert, Bier kostet € 3,- extra.
Ich suche mir einen Platz in der großen Sitzgruppe und erkenne auch sogleich Liliana. Die Frau stahlt eine Erotik aus, klasse. Leider ist Sie bereits mit einem Handtuchträger beschäftigt. Ich schaue mir das mal an, aber dieser Gast bevorzugt die Abgeschiedenheit eines Zimmers und so entschwinden die beiden. Mir ist allerdings bereits vorher ein anderes Mädchen aufgefallen. Blonde, schulterlange Haare, blaue Augen und ein sehr hübsches, natürliches, unverbrauchtes Gesicht. Ich setze mich zu mir, Sie heißt Nora.

Ein bisschen Small Talk, Sie lacht sehr gerne und hat schöne weiße Zähne.
Wir kommen uns näher, erste Küsse. Ich streichle über Ihren Körper.
Nora ist nicht gertenschlank, aber alles fest. Ihre Ausstrahlung und Ihr Gesicht
haben es mir angetan. Ihre Hand wandert unter mein Handtuch und es dauert nicht lang da kniet Sie vor mir und verwöhnt mich mit ihrem Mund.
Das macht Sie richtig gut, Sie fährt mit Ihrer Zunge meinem Schwanz entlang und schaut mich dabei mit Ihren blauen Augen an. Ich finde es mal geil mich so auf der Couch verwöhnen zu lassen, zumal Nora wirklich weiß was Mann gut tut.

Irgendwann ist aber der Punkt erreicht wo ich Ihr sage das ich gerne mit Ihr auf’s Zimmer gehen möchte.

Nora sagte mir vorher das Sie erst seit einigen Tagen im Paysex aktiv ist, wie mir schien hat Sie vorher aber schon Intensiv privat geübt.

Ich binde mir mein Handtuch um, was aber ziemlich ausgebeult ist. Wir gehen die Treppe hoch in eines der Zimmer. Das Zimmer ist durch eine Wand geteilt die an der Seite einen etwa 1 Meter breiten Durchgang hat. Neugierig wie ich nun mal bin schaue ich erstmal was auf der anderen Seite so los ist, da ist aber scheinbar gerade Halbzeit.

Wir beginnen da wo wir auch bereits unten begonnen haben.
Eine detailierte Schilderung erspare ich mir mal,
schließlich wisst Ihr ja alle selbst wie’s geht.
Nora hat sicht und hörbar Spaß am Sex und das kommt sehr authentisch rüber.Sie ist sehr fordernd, Küsst Intensiv und gut, lässt sich lecken und fingern.Beim Verkehr hält Nora sehr gut dagegen und ist wie bereits geschrieben fordernd und auch nicht die leiseste. Ich war hochzufrieden mit meiner Wahl.

Nach dem Duschen habe ich mich erstmal in die Sitzlandschaft begeben, was getrunken und mich ein bisschen umgeschaut. Mittlerweile waren ca. 7-10 Dreibeiner im Haus. Und es waren auch etwa 10 Mädchen da. Mir besonders gefallen hat neben Liliana und Nora auch Laura. Sie hat einen schönen Hardbody und ein Gesicht das mich ein wenig an eine ex Kollegin erinnert. Dann kam Domenica rein, so einen Body sieht man extrem selten. Sie setzt sich auf die mir gegenüberliegende Seite und schaut zu mir rüber. Wir halten die Blicke ein paar Sekunden, Sie lächelt – ich gehe zu Ihr.

Geschafft, gut das mir keiner der 3 anderen Gäste, die noch dort saßen, zuvor gekommen ist. Manchmal muss man halt warten, und manchmal schnell sein. Wir stellen uns vor, Sie kommt aus Polen und spricht außer Ihrer Heimatsprache noch Englisch aber kein Deutsch. Wir unterhalten uns und ich merke schnell dass die verhinderte Miss Polen ein sehr nettes, offenes Mädchen ist. Sie ist erst vor 2 Tagen aus Polen gekommen und dies ist Ihr erster Job im Paysex.

Wir suchen uns ein Zimmer. Und schon nach ein paar Minuten bin ich mir sicher das heute mein Glückstag ist. Mit Domenica habe ich GF6 at his best, mit dem Unterschied das ich leider noch nie eine Freundin mit einem solchen Body hatte. Langes küssen und streicheln, erkunden der Körper. Sie ist unprofessionell im allerbesten Sinne. Weitere Details erspare ich mir – Ihr wisst ja wie’s geht.

Domenica bleibt vorerst nur bis Samstag und geht dann zurück nach Polen.
Nach jetzigem Stand hat Sie allerdings vor dann zurück zu kommen.

Nach Domenica wollte ich nicht noch mal auf’s Zimmer und so sparte ich
mir Liliane für einen weiteren Besuch auf. Liliane ist übrigens, jedenfalls habe ich das am Mittwoch so erlebt, stark frequentiert.
Noch ein Saunagang absolviert, was gegessen und dann ging es auch wieder Richtung Heimat.

Am Donnerstag entschließe ich mich kurzfristig die am Vortag entfallene Session mit Liliane nachzuholen. Schließlich habe ich ansonsten in der Woche nicht oft die Gelegenheit dazu.

Okay, den Weg kenn ich ja jetzt.
Im Kontaktraum angetroffen sah ich zunächst weder Liliane, noch Domenica oder Nora.Dafür traf ich einen Gast den ich vom Gesicht her aus einem Kölner Club kenne. Ich setzte mich zu Ihm an die Bar und wir plauderten ein bisschen. Schnell stellte ich fest das er einen ähnlichen Geschmack wie ich hat. Er wartete auf Domenica, die wie die anderen beiden Ladys auf dem Zimmer war. Nun, ich hätte auch sehr gerne das gestrige Erlebiss mit Ihr aufgefrischt. Aber erstens war er schon länger da, zweitens hatte ich ja bereits das Vergnügen und dritten muss man auch gönne könne.
Dann kam Domenica rein und der Kollege war auch sofort bei Ihr.

Ich brauchte auch nicht mehr lange zu warten dann kam Liliane und nahm auf der großen Sitzlandschaft platz. Vom Vortag wusste ich noch das Sie stark frequentiert war und so zögerte ich nicht mich zu Ihr zu setzen. Ich schrieb bereits weiter oben das Sie eine Erotik ausstrahlt die einen Mann einfach faszinieren muss. Es dauerte nicht sehr lange bis zu ersten Berührungen und küssen. Zunächst zart dann Intensiver. Ihre Hand wandert zu meinem Schwanz und schenkt diesem die Freiheit. Doch nicht lange dann taucht er in Ihren Mund. Sie bläst herrlich und es ist eine Wonne Ihr dabei zuzusehen. Wir wechseln dann in ein Zimmer. Hier merke ich schnell das Liliane ein richtig geiles Luder ist (eigentlich wollte ich schreiben „richtig geile Sau“, aber das schreibt man doch nicht.)

Tiefe, feuchte ZK bis zu den Mandeln. Intensives Fingern und lecken.
Einen dermaßen nassen, variantenreichen und tiefen Blow Job wie Ihn auch Janice aus dem TP zelebriert. Bein ficken geht Liliane richtig mit, windet Ihren Körper. Es ist einfach geil mit Ihr.

Nach etwas relaxen gönne ich mir dann noch eine 2. Runde mit Nora.
Mit Ihr hat es mir gestern sehr gut gefallen und da Sie einen sehr fordernden Eindruck machte führte uns diesmal der Weg nicht in die obere Etage sondern nach unten.

Die Biosauna ist nicht besonders heiß aber es reicht,
die Sitzbänke sind mit rotem Kunstleder überzogen.

Wir ließen die Tür offen und breiten die Handtücher aus. Die Frau hat einfach Spaß am Sex, was ich gestern schon festgestellt hatte bestätigte sich wieder. Intensive Zungenspiele und während Sie meinen Schwanz mit Ihrem Mund verwöhnt fingere ich Sie. Durch die Hitze ist Sie sehr schnell feucht, ich stimmuliere Ihre Mumu und ficke Sie dann mit 2 Fingern. Nora gefällt das, wird Ihr Stöhnen doch lauter. Dann will ich endlich mit dem ganz dicken Finger rein. Sie streift mir das Gummi über und ich knie mich hinter Sie. Der Schweiß fließt bereits und so ergibt sich ein flutschiges Gefühl Haut auf Haut. Nach ein paar langsameren Stößen ficke ich Sie härter und heftiger. Nora stöhnt nun extrem laut. Noch eine Weile halte ich das durch und merke dann wie die Säfte zu steigen beginnen – und Abschuss.

Puuh, nach dem Duschen noch was gegessen und getrunken und dann vollends befriedigt auf den Heimweg gemacht.

Ist jetzt ein bisschen sehr lang geworden,
ich hoffe das niemand beim Lesen eingeschlafen ist.

Fazit: to follow.

Marlow
05-13-07, 16:00
Briefly Flahute was a very busy boy. He had every wish fulfilled. Went there for Liliana and Domenica but first ended up with Nora. She admitted to him this was her first time in the pay sex industry but had been practicing a lot in private before coming to Babylon (Good girl that's what I like to hear - Marlow). He was blissfully happy with Nora and her noisy performance. Then came Domenica who is from Poland and spoke only English (polish of course), she too was a newbie in the pay sex game. She too was wonderful.
He decided to return on another day. Finally he made it with Lilana who rivalled anything he has had at Traumparadies (well boys, that is a recommendation of Michelin quality believe me - Marlow). Indeed he made a thorough pig of himself with this sex goddess. After drawing breath he gave Nora another right energetic going over in the bio sauna, before helping himself to a meal and trotting off home. There were ten women there and between seven and ten men.
Me thinks this man struck gold.....

Jackyo
05-14-07, 11:06
.. with the translation, Marlow!

There is so much stuff out there to read in German on this topic and I only have just so much time to do translations.

CBGBConnisur
05-20-07, 10:38
This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.

Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)

When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.

Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.

NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.

On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.

Coxswain

It is also possible to take a train to Bergheim and then a taxi, that is slightly cheaper than taking one from Horrem. I visited this place in 05, has this club improved, it was top notch in 2001, I particularly remember this club because I met a beautiful Arab girl here and strangely enough we had sex on the 10th of September 2001.

Jackyo
05-20-07, 11:04
Her name was Chanel, she is German Turkish, she also had an Arab friend named Shirina. I am not kidding that I would give a lot of money just to say hello to her again.
She was amazing and I would definitely do her again if someone can figure out where she now works (if she is still working). She had an amazing all-over tan, nice figure, tits and legs.

She was one of those girls who had absolutely no inhibitions, would impale herself on you right there on the couch in full view of everyone else.

I associate certain women with certain songs. I don't know about the rest of you but I pay attention to the German pop songs playing in the background at these clubs (you spend so much time just hanging out and listening to the music, so why not?).

I associate Shaggy's It wasn't me with her. I can picture her dancing in the hallway of this club very clearly in my mind.

This was probably back in 2001.

Shirina was Turkish and she was very, very good. A dude I traveled with in that time frame swears by her. He was shaking like a leaf after a session with her. She had drained him of all essential body fluids.

Last I heard she had switched jobs and was now working the reception desk at Babylon. I understand that Jacqueline is still the Thekenfrau there too.

Freesoul
05-20-07, 11:38
. With the translation, Marlow!

There is so much stuff out there to read in German on this topic and I only have just so much time to do translations. There are many free translation tools available on the web, so language is no longer a barrier. Here is a machine translation of your last quote from RF:

Originally Posted by Flahute

[Report] my premiere in the Babylon, Mi. + DO.

Liliana, you are the reason for my Erstbesuch in the Babylon.

Last week looked at I the homepage and sees myself your photos.

The Mrs. Has a picture-pretty face, I looks for whether I reports over you finds and become also very fast found.

It has already some stations behind itself and your service was always praised.

Then I extend Okay times mean horizon and plan in bälde one

Trip after Elsdorf. Those are of me unfortunately 125 km.

This week Tuesday look I once again also the HP of the club and see the new acquisitions Estefania and Domenica.

Picture-pretty Mrs. Those the heart of a optics-fixed Paysex consumer as I it now times one am more highly to strike leave.

Wednesday has I time, Liliana and Domenica should be present.

The homepage is in all other respects arranged very beautiful, informative and equipped with a up to date presence list.

The girls are to the all largest part with photos represented and your service spectrum is listed likewise.

On Wednesday I make sure at 13. 30 o'clock by telephone whether Liliana and Domenica are also actually present.

There Yes sir, you are. Beautifully, then' s can loose-go.

Parked in the backyard and then for inlet asked. Was opened for me and I outete myself as Erstbesucher. After I, one calls the starting money it also entrance, at a value of € 50,. Had forced away me by a girl the club was shown.

I got rid of before however in cover myself my Alltagsklamotten, closed these into the locker and committed myself a towel around my hips.

Down, where cover is, also 2 Saunen are, a shower increase sofas and Couchen and it go to the terrace in good weather being used can. At this time was down however only empties. As I spä *** to determine could do took place, at least on this day, nearly everything a floor more highly.

There it went then. A large table with several chairs, in contrast to this the meal, a bar and a large seat land landscape in you form and in the midst of a couch place where I also immediately the first public Action in inspection to take could. Right at the top the rooms are and also still showering opportunities.

Thus, after I now the premises know learned order I first times which-he-alcohol-free beverages are in the admission fee inkludiert, beer costs € 3,. Specially. I look for myself a place in the large group of seats and recognize also immediately Liliana. The woman stole an erotism out, from class. Unfortunately is already busy with a towel carrier you. I look at myself times, but this guest prefers the separationness of a room and in such a way disappears the two. Another girl was noticeable to me however already before. Blond one, shoulder for a long time hair, blue eyes and a very pretty, natural, unspent face. I sit down to me, you am called Nora.

A little Small talc, you laughs very gladly and has beautiful white teeth. We approach ourselves, first kisses. I stroke over your body.

Nora is not switch slim, but everything firm. Their radiant emittance and your face it did to me. Their hand does not walk under my towel and it lasts kneels long there you before me and spoils me with their mouth.

That makes you correctly good, you drives with your tongue to my tail along and looks at me thereby with your blue eyes. I find it times geil me on the couch spoil in such a way to let, particularly since Nora really white which man well does.

Sometime however the point is reached where I it says which I gladly with it on' s room to go would like.

Nora said to me you only for some days in the Paysex before is active, how to me has you before however already intensive seemed privately geübt.

I put on myself my towel, which is however quite bumped out. We go the stairs highly into one of the rooms. The room is divided by a wall broad at the side one about the passage 1 meter has. Curious as I now times am look I first times which on the other side am so the matter, there am however apparently straight half time.

We begin where we also already down began.

A detailierte description I save times,

Finally know you all like' s goes.

Nora has view and audibly fun at the Sex and comes very authentically more rüber. It is much demanding, kisses intensive and well, can be licked and fumbled. With traffic Nora keeps against it and is as already written demanding and the quietest very also not good. I was to high-content with my choice.

After showering I went first times into the seat landscape, what umgeschaut drunk and me a little. Meanwhile approx. 7-10 Dreibeiner were in the house. And there were also about 10 girls. Beside Liliana and Nora also Laura particularly pleased me. It reminded a beautiful Hardbody and a face me a little of an ex colleague. Then Domenica came purely, so a Body sees one extremely rarely. It sits down on me facing the side and looks to me more rüber. We hold views a few seconds, you smile. I go to it.

Production, well me none of the 3 of other guests, who sat still there, before came. Sometimes one must wait stop, and be fast sometimes. We think of, you come from Poland and speak except your homeland language still English however no German. We converse and I notice fast that the prevented let us measure Poland a very nice, open girl are. She came only 2 days ago from Poland and this is your first job in the Paysex.

We look for each other a room. And after a few minutes I am already that today my luck day am safe. With Domenica I best GF6 RK his, with the difference which I unfortunately never a friend with such Body had. Long kiss and stroke, explore the body. It is unprofessional in the very best sense. Further details I save. You know like' s goes.

Domenica remains for the time being only until Saturday and goes then back to Poland.

To current conditions has to come you however forwards then back.

After Domenica I did not want once again on' s room and saved in such a way I me Liliane for a further visit up. Liliane is by the way, anyhow I on Wednesday experienced in such a way, strongly frequented.

Still another Saunagang completes, which went eaten and then it also again to direction homeland.

On Thursday I decide to retrieve itself at short notice the session with Liliane, the day before which was void. Finally I do not have the opportunity otherwise in the week often in addition.

Okay, the way now know I.

In the contact area I saw first neither Liliane found, nor Domenica or Nora. Dafür met I a guest who I from the face from Cologne club know. I sat down to him to the bar and we chatted a little. Fast I placed firmly which it a similar taste as I have. It waited for Domenica, which was like the other two Ladys on the room. Now, I would have also very gladly the of yesterday experience-eat with it refurbished. But first of all it was had I the pleasure and third must one already also grants already longer there, secondly can.

Then Domenica came clean and the colleague was also immediately with it.

I needed to wait also not more for a long time then came Liliane and took on the large seat landscape place. From the day before I knew you was strongly still frequented and did not hesitate in such a way I not me to it to set. I wrote to already far you an erotism radiate the one man above simply to fascinate must. It lasted not for a very long time up to first contacts and kisses. First tenderly then intensive. Their hand walks to my tail and gives to this the freedom. But not for a long time then it dips into your mouth. It blows wonderful and it is a Wonne it thereby to be watched. We change then into a room. Here I notice the Liliane a correctly geiles Luder am fast (actually I wanted to write „correctly geile sow ", but one does not write nevertheless.)

Deep, damp ZK up to the almonds. Intensive fumbling and lick.

A so wet, variant-rich and deep Blow job like it also Janice from the TP celebrates.

Leg ficken goes along Liliane correctly, winds your body. It is simple geil with it.

After something relaxen grant myself I then still another 2nd round with Nora.

With their it has me fallen and there you very good yesterday a very much demanding impression made led us this time the way not into the upper floor to separate downward.

The Biosauna is not particularly hot however it is enough, the seats are covered with red imitation leather.

We left the door open and spread the towels. The woman has simply fun at the Sex, which I had yesterday already determined was confirmed again. Intensive tongue plays and during you mean tail delicately with your mouth fumble I you. By the heat is you very fast damp, I stimmuliere your Mumu and ficke you then with 2 fingers. Nora pleases that, becomes your groaning nevertheless louder. Then I want finally with the completely thick finger purely. It touches me the rubber over and I kneels itself behind you. The sweat flows already and in such a way arises a flutschiges feeling skin on skin. After a few slower impacts ficke I it harder and more violently. Nora groans now extremely loud. Still another one while hold on I and notice like the juices to then rise begin. And firing.

Puuh, after showering still which eaten and drunk and then satisfies completely on the way home made.

Became now a little very long

I do not hope that anybody during the reading fell asleep.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jackyo
05-20-07, 21:55
.. can only take you just so far.

You might be able to guess at what he is trying to say but nothing beats a live person doing it.

Marlow
05-30-07, 09:30
...was Jonathan Saffron Foer's book 'Everything is Illuminated' which came out a few years ago. It's about his trip to the Ukraine to search for his forebearers (something a great number of Yanks do). part written by Jonathan and the best parts written by a Ukrainian called Alex who is his tour guide. Alex's grasp of English and his typical Ukranian post communist attitude to life is one of the best pieces of comedy writing I have ever read.

Travelforfun
05-31-07, 16:46
The famous Liliana is missing from the website ...looks like she moved again.

Any updates where she might be working now?

Xavier Yves
06-03-07, 18:56
what's pricing structure in babylon for the moment? Thanks

CBGBConnisur
07-04-07, 13:02
50€ Entry and 50 € for half an hour of sex with the girl. The club has improved a bit from its fall a few years ago but it still not as good as it was when I first visited in 2001. This club used to have the best eye candy of any club in Germany.

Jackyo
08-21-07, 12:20
Their new website has very attractive photos:

www.privatclub-babylon.de

There is even one chick they identify as Afro-American, La Toya.

Euro100
08-22-07, 01:50
Their new website has very attractive photos:

www.privatclub-babylon.de

There is even one chick they identify as Afro-American, La Toya.

Thanks for posting the url. I checked it out. Most interesting detail: all of the girls are listed by name, and their degree of pubic shaving is listed :D You can also see the faces of most girls. Quite a nice-looking lineup. I'll have to pay this club a visit on Sept. 23 (when I am in Düsseldorf again).

Jackyo
08-23-07, 02:37
Thanks for posting the url. I checked it out. Most interesting detail: all of the girls are listed by name, and their degree of pubic shaving is listed :D You can also see the faces of most girls. Quite a nice-looking lineup. I'll have to pay this club a visit on Sept. 23 (when I am in Düsseldorf again).
.. is, indeed, the interesting thing about their website.

There are two women in their lineup who've been there for a while: Laura and Verona, both of whom I've met.

I believe I've met Melanie too, when she was at Wiago.

I visited Wiago years ago with this Canadian dude from Toronto and he was hopelessly obsessed with her. He insisted on returning to this club several days in a row and did multiple sessions with her including the champagne plus whirlpool thing.

It was pretty bad. But then again, I went through the same thing also once with a chick, Jessica, at the same club.

Now if this club and Wiago would only get their acts together. Its been years since their glory days.

There are nude clubs and there are "exhibitionistic nude" clubs. They once offered the best eye candy in Germany.

Jackyo
10-01-07, 10:59
I have a thing for this club based on good experiences I've had there. Unfortunately, over the past couple of years its been nothing like it used to be.

In fact, a bad experience I had with a chick here two years ago has kept me away.

They post on Youppie and according to them the ownership situation has changed and they, as well, have no more connection to Wiago.

Here is what they wrote (in French) announcing a party on the 12th of October (Schade but I won't be able to make it to this!).

Note the new website address. Note also the large-titted Liliane is also named below (some of you out there follow her migrations).


10 ans Babylon à Elsdorf "Party" le 12.10

Chers amis du Babylon et amis à venir,

depuis le 8 janvier 2007 le Babylon a été repris par de nouveaux propriétaires.

Jusqu'il y a 5 à 6 années ce club était, et beaucoup vont s'en souvenir, l'un des meilleurs si pas LE meilleur des FKK-Clubs de tout le "Grossraum Köln".

Hélas à l'époque, par un changement de proprios et par une mauvaise gérance le Club a périclité...

Nous, nouveaux propriétaires, avons la prétention de reconduire ce Club à moyenne échéance dans le rang des meilleurs FKK-Clubs de Rhénanie-Westphalie.

Ainsi nous avons pu reconstruire une équipe de dames que beaucup ont déjà eu l'occasion de contempler sur le nouveau website

www.privatclub-babylon.de

créé en mars 07.

A côté de l'équipe souche avec Laura, Leyla, Verona, Melanie, Sabrina, Nora, et d'autres, nous réussissons aussi à vous présenter des femmes exceptionnelles telles Liliane, Domenica, Arrancciatta, Kamila, ... Liliane sera d'ailleurs présente à partir du 10. octobre.

Et nous allons persévérer.

Dans peu de temps nous allons rénover tout le bâtiment.

Pour fê*** tout celà nous vous invitons nombreux à notre "Oktoberfest-Party" le 12 octobre à Elsdorf.

Nos filles vous recoivent (pas de cédille sur mon clavier allemand) dans un "Oktoberfest-Outfit" sexy.

Nous fêtons avec:

Freibier (bière à volonté)
Buffet spécial
Danses
Musique du DJ

Début 12.00 heures, open end

Soyez nombreux et les bienvenus!
Fazit: They are celebrating their tenth anniversary on the 12th of October with an Oktoberfest party. Party starts at 12:00 and is open ended.The women will be wearing Oktoberfest-wear (whatever that is). The ownership situation changed in January of this year (in another post on the Youppie thread they say the current ownership has nothing to do with Milieu) and they hope to bring the club back to what it used to be; the top club in this part of the country (which is was at one point in time). It then lists the women who are there and says specifically that Liliane will be there after the 10th of October. They have plans to renovate the building.

As to what is going on currently at Wiago, ca, je n'en sais rien.

Whoever is running this club now actually has someone on board who is a Francophone, apparently.

Travelforfun
10-01-07, 15:45
Can anyone point out how if i catch a taxi how much roughly should it cost to get there?

Jackyo
10-01-07, 17:01
Can anyone point out how if i catch a taxi how much roughly should it cost to get there?
... and I've not come to a clear answer on how much a cab would cost (at least from Koeln).

I know that there are trains to Bergheim (on the Erft) as I have taken trains to and from Koeln.

Elsdorf is one town over and so I suppose the cab ride would be cheapest this way.

I do believe there is a bus from the Bergheim station but I've not figured out which stop in Elsdorf is the closest to it.

I even went on a drive once in the town to try and figure out where things were. Its been a while since I've been back though.

Marlow
10-03-07, 09:11
The club has had recently some poor revues on the German boards. Stuck between PHG and Samya to name but two Babylon has some serious competition in the neighbourhood. Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro, the price comes out 10euro more than Samya. German board commentators are pissed (to put it politely) that the advertised times of the girls do not correspond to reality - the girl(s) ain't there. Babylon's response was that it had no control over the girls, and if they cried off on the day there was not a lot they could do about it. Consequently the webpage no longer says who's in. So it is a long trip for perhaps not very much.
Samya has been quick to capitalise on this by posting real-time updates of which girls are in the club, making it very tough for Babylon to attract customers into the wilds of the flat lands west of Cologne.

Jackyo
10-03-07, 11:34
The club has had recently some poor revues on the German boards. Stuck between PHG and Samya to name but two Babylon has some serious competition in the neighbourhood. Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro, the price comes out 10euro more than Samya. German board commentators are pissed (to put it politely) that the advertised times of the girls do not correspond to reality - the girl(s) ain't there. Babylon's response was that it had no control over the girls, and if they cried off on the day there was not a lot they could do about it. Consequently the webpage no longer says who's in. So it is a long trip for perhaps not very much.
Samya has been quick to capitalise on this by posting real-time updates of which girls are in the club, making it very tough for Babylon to attract customers into the wilds of the flat lands west of Cologne.
.. has, indeed, been an issue. It has always been a premium pricing club (at least since they went from the DMark to the Euro).

And yes, Samya has, indeed, set the pace as far as real-time data on who is present and working.

I've always kept an eye on this club because it is a sentimental favorite but it needs to make some real changes and I need to read more positive reviews before I return to check it out.

Breadman
10-03-07, 14:26
Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro

I know that Fkk Zeus takes a cut from the girls to offset the low entry fee...wonder if Babylon does the same? You'd think new management would try to price themselves with their competition if they wanted to draw customers back to their club.

Jackyo
10-04-07, 04:12
I know that Fkk Zeus takes a cut from the girls to offset the low entry fee...wonder if Babylon does the same? You'd think new management would try to price themselves with their competition if they wanted to draw customers back to their club.
When this club was good, it was very good. It never wavered in its pricing philosophy and has always been premium priced. It justified this pricing based on high service standards and lots of exhibitionistic nudism.

There was a time when Bernds per session pricing was high too (I can't recall exactly but it was something like 80 Euros per session) but its entrance fee was low (wasn't it something like 30 Euros?).

Then they raised the entrance fee to the current rate of 75 Euros (I can't recall exactly) and at the same time dropped the per session charge to 50 Euros.

Marlow
10-04-07, 14:39
Since the German's put prostitution on the level a couple of years ago (about) clubs have had to change their pricing structure to stay within the law. This was the case with Bernd's which if you noticed when it charged 80 euros kept 30euros for itself, handed the girl 50euros and made her sign for it. The law says you can't do that any longer as the girl is self-employed so taking a cut of her wages is tantamount to being an employer. No club can afford the costs of German employee laws! And no girl wants it anyway. Recently the govt started a withholding tax of I think around 25euros a day (but don't quote me on that) which each girl has to pay. The idea being to encourage girls to declare their earnings for tax in the proper manner. Raids are regularly carried out to check if the girls are registered for tax. FKK and sauna clubs seem by and large to stay within the law - the girl pays her daily 'rent' and her tax and the rest she keeps. In other 'establishments' I'm not sure how it works, only that I know the old system of keeping half the earnings remains in use. The owners of these houses argue that the 50% take is justified by the unreliability of the girls themselves. They say they'll stay for three months or more, but can disappear overnight, leaving the owner out of pocket for providing the rooms, laundry etc etc. Whereas FKK and sauna clubs charge the girls a flat rate rent, these other 'puffs' don't. So a girl in a 'puff' who has say a really good day with six clients at an hour each (really good!) earns 900euros of which she keeps half. To earn 450euros in a FKK club a girl must have nine clients and from that deduct her outgoings (rent and tax).
There you have, not that it matters a toss to us!

Jackyo
10-07-07, 10:23
Since the German's put prostitution on the level a couple of years ago (about) clubs have had to change their pricing structure to stay within the law. This was the case with Bernd's which if you noticed when it charged 80 euros kept 30euros for itself, handed the girl 50euros and made her sign for it. The law says you can't do that any longer as the girl is self-employed so taking a cut of her wages is tantamount to being an employer. No club can afford the costs of German employee laws! And no girl wants it anyway. Recently the govt started a withholding tax of I think around 25euros a day (but don't quote me on that) which each girl has to pay. The idea being to encourage girls to declare their earnings for tax in the proper manner. Raids are regularly carried out to check if the girls are registered for tax. FKK and sauna clubs seem by and large to stay within the law - the girl pays her daily 'rent' and her tax and the rest she keeps. In other 'establishments' I'm not sure how it works, only that I know the old system of keeping half the earnings remains in use. The owners of these houses argue that the 50% take is justified by the unreliability of the girls themselves. They say they'll stay for three months or more, but can disappear overnight, leaving the owner out of pocket for providing the rooms, laundry etc etc. Whereas FKK and sauna clubs charge the girls a flat rate rent, these other 'puffs' don't. So a girl in a 'puff' who has say a really good day with six clients at an hour each (really good!) earns 900euros of which she keeps half. To earn 450euros in a FKK club a girl must have nine clients and from that deduct her outgoings (rent and tax).
There you have, not that it matters a toss to us!
This would explain why they made these changes to pricing then.

Jackyo
11-07-07, 18:58
After not having been back since 2005, decided it was time to drop in on this club, my favorite club of all time until things started falling apart.

Its under new management and now is totally separate from Wiago, which has been renamed Extasia or something like that.

One of the owners, Eddy, is a former customer of this club and knows it well from its glory days.

But times have changed. Whereas back then probably only PHG was direct competition in this neck of the woods, there are now GT, Wildenrath, Residenz and Villa Vertigo to reckon with. Mal sehen was passieren wird.

He (Eddy) is ready to invest money in the club though and that means revising the shower fixtures upstairs, for one.

The set up is quite the same as before. Lighting is different and the Kunstleder couches are now in black (or was it deep blue?).

In front of the bar they have a pole and a stage for pole dancing. The women were complaining that the pole was of the wrong diameter though and it wasn't easy to turn on it.

They have plans of taking out the bar and doing something with it.

The former Umkleideraum is now a bedroom. I had instinctively headed for it with my towel and key but the lockers are now under the stairs (where I remember very clearly making out with this Polish blonde, Ramona).

Ah.. Every nook and cranny of this club holds memories for me. At this section of the couch, I admired Michelle's tight bod. At that other section, I had my first public BJ. It all came back to me in a rush of memories.

They have some photos of the former Besatzung hanging on the walls. Yvette, Pia, Suzi, Shirina, Nina, Chanel.. those names just roll right off my tongue.

Oh yes, where was I?

There weren't many customers when we got there and only five girls in total. All well selected and edited for one's viewing and sensual pleasures. Jessy was a darkhaired Russian or Polish chick. She had a friend who was equally darkhaired and equally Russian or Polish. There was one Turkish woman too with a nice figure.

For one, the legendary big-titted Liliane was very much present. One knows one is in the presence of greatness when one is within an arm's length of her. Her bikini top could barely contain her nipples.

Yes, they now wear bikinis there.

We stayed up until the wee hours of the morning talking about how great the club used to be and that if they were to get it back on track to greatness, the all nude rule had to be reintroduced.

Also, I made it a point to insist that the post-coital session afterwards had to be reinstituted as well (as some of you know, the PC session is long gone and it isn't offered anywhere these days).

Then there was Nadine who is a legend in her own right, the so-called independent Nadine from Bergheim. She greeted us at the door wearing nothing but thigh high boots, blonde, blue-eyed, totally shaved and I eventually found myself drawn to her side.

I did have the pleasure and was extremely pleased to make her acquaintance.

Will this club suceed in turning things around? I don't know.

For one thing, they do have premium pricing. Its 35 Euros to get in, 75 Euros for the first session, 55 Euros for the second session.

If you consider say typical pricing of 50 Euros to get in, 50 Euros for the first session, you are at 105 Euros at Babylon where you would be at 100 Euros elsewhere.

By the time you did your second session you'd be 165 Euros at Babylon and at 150 Euros anywhere else.

They had better be offering really, really good services at Babylon to make this up and with the additional competition, things are going to be tough.

One should note that this pricing scheme compares favorably with Bernds though when you consider that Bernds asks for 70 Euros to enter the front door.

If I were in the owners shoes, Bernds would be the club I'd most want to be like rather than the local competition. PHG and GT have huge selections of women, some of whom are outstanding, some of which are average and some of whom are unf'able.

Babylon being a small club would have to compete in terms of offering a small, edited selection where one can throw a dart to pick one's session partner and be guaranteed a good experience. The larger clubs are too much of a crap shoot from my experience.

Oh, yes. There was food but it wasn't anything to write home about.

Their Thekenstaff was great though. Claudia (or Claudine) is funny, easy to talk to and friendly. At the end of the evening, she and I were holding hands like we were old friends (this is a long story).

I wish this club well for nostalgic purposes but it will a lot of work to turn it around.

Of the women on the website who now work there, I only recognize two: Laura and Verona. Both are still there but not present when I visited. I also think I recognize Melanie who used to be Wiago.

Want to experience a Babylon girl without actually going to Babylon? Monika at Bernds used to work at both Wiago and Babylon. This goes back several years now (I'll have to read my notes to get the exact year). She may, in fact, be the oldest Babylon girl I have ever met who is still actively in the profession. The others have moved on (if anyone knows what Suzie is doing currently, I'd be interested in finding out, by the way).

Breadman
11-08-07, 03:04
But times have changed. Whereas back then probably only PHG was direct competition in this neck of the woods, there are now GT, Wildenrath, Residenz and Villa Vertigo to reckon with. Mal sehen was passieren wird.

For one thing, they do have premium pricing. Its 35 Euros to get in, 75 Euros for the first session, 60 Euros for the second session.

If you consider say typical pricing of 50 Euros to get in, 50 Euros for the first session, you are at 110 Euros at Babylon where you would be at 100 Euros elsewhere.

By the time you did your second session you'd be 170 Euros at Babylon and at 150 Euros anywhere else. There was food but it wasn't anything to write home about.


I know that for my 50 euro's I get decent food and all the beer I can handle (within reason) at GT and im going to assume the same for PHG and Vertigo (once it opens). Will my 35 entrance fee give me free beer?

Jackyo
11-08-07, 03:52
I know that for my 50 euro's I get decent food and all the beer I can handle (within reason) at GT and im going to assume the same for PHG and Vertigo (once it opens). Will my 35 entrance fee give me free beer?
No, there is no free beer.

They do have alcoholic beverages but you need to pay for them separately.

Their strategy is to offer an edited selection of women and guarantee total satisfaction from the services offered.

When this club was good, it was as good if not better than Bernds service-wise.

Jackyo
12-04-07, 10:13
This invitation is extended to anglophones also.


"Party" de Noel le 07.12.07 au Babylon

Chers amis du Babylon,

Le 07 décembre a lieu au Babylon notre annuel "Party" de Noel.
Nos filles porteront un outfit de Noel très sexy.

Il y a boissons et buffet.

Début 12.00 heures
A partir de 20.00 heures: live-music par un groupe folklorique bien connu du Carneval de Cologne.

Notez s'il-vous-plaît que depuis le début novembre dernier le Babylon est de nouveau comme dans le passé un Club FKK pur (toutes les filles sont entièrement nues).

Soyez les bien-venus.

FKK-Privat-Club Babylon
www.privatclub-babylon.de
Fazit: They are having their Christmas party on the 7th of December. The women will be dressed appropriately in Christmas outfits and they will have food and drink. Everything starts at 12:00 and at 20:00 they will have live music played by a folk music group which is well known at the Karneval in Koeln. They also announce that since the beginning of November, they are an entirely nude club now (Yes! They acted on my suggestion the last time. How cool is that?).

This club is accessible via a combination of train/bus/taxi as follows:


Je te joins pour amis belges, luxembourgeois et autres, qui veulent venir en train, un petit guide pour arriver au club sans problèmes:
Si tu viens de Belgique, le plus facile est de prendre le train vers Cologne. Avant Cologne descendre à la station de HORREM.
Là bas appeler Taxi Janitz Tel. 02274/1717 ou bien 02271/64555.
En donnant le mot de passe "FKK-Club-Babylon" le trajet de 10 à 15 minutes au Club est pour 17 Euros (pix convenu avec le patron).
Si tu viens de Cologne, train direction Aachen, descendre à la station de Horrem ... et même procédure. Tu peux venir aussi avec la Strassenbahn vers Köln-Weiden, en face du Rheincenter prendre le Bus 961 vers Bergheim, ici aussi prendre un taxi Tel.02271/64555.
Nous sommes en train de négocier des prix d'hôtel à proximité du club.
Fazit: If you are coming from Belgium, take the train in the direction of Koeln, get off at Horrem. Call Taxi Janitz (phone numbers above), give them the password "FKK Club Babylon" and within 10 to 15 minute you will be there for about 17 Euros. If you come from Koeln, take the train to Aachen, get off at Horrem and do the same thing. You can also take the streetcar in the direction of Koeln-Weiden and in front of the Rheincenter, take Bus 961 to Bergheim and then call a cab when you get there. They are in the process of negotiating with a hotel in the area so one can stay nearby.

I have also taken the train from Koeln Hbf to Bergheim Centreville.. sorry - Stadtmitte, and gotten off there.

gitan
01-04-08, 11:49
They will hold their annual "Carnaval" party on January 31st. On the same day, there will be a meeting for the members of the forum Youppie.

Normally between 20 and 25 girls will be present, they will also offer a nice buffet for this party.

Peter
04-10-08, 16:54
I swung by Babylon again last night. I used to like this club years and years ago, and I still rop by once a year to see whether there are any hidden treasures.

I have to say I was at Schieferhof and Traumparadies on the same day, where my results were very mixed.

So I get to Elsdorf, an once again they had changed the pricing scheme.

It is 35€ entrance fee

The first half hour is an additional 75€ and each half hour after that is 55€. They keep the prize for the club with the stupidest and most confusing pricing system.

They also have a list up for all the extras, with CIM at 25€, CIM with swallowing at 50€, Anal at 50€ and some other things. I have it on very good authority that posting such a list puts the club management in a dangerous legal situation, but that isn't my problem.

The girls keep 40€ for each half hour, and the club gets the rest, the girl also keeps all of her extras money.

So I go there, and there are about 4 girls there. 3 were nothing to write home about, and then there was Isabella.

She is about 5'3" and slim with smallish perky breasts and a nice sporty butt. She has dark blonde long hair and in every way looks "natural". She is 21 and Polish, no tattoos, no long fingernails - just a very natural good looking girl.

Her german is decent, she also speaks a bit of english.

So we talked for a while, and she was a smart and nice girl...so I decided to take it to the room.

There we talked some more, and she kissed me in a way that I could really call a GFE. The girl doesn't smoke, so her tongue and breath are really nice and fresh. I rarely use the term GFE, but tis kissing was really really a lot like when you were 19 and some girl was really into you. It was something I haven't really seen in a working girl for quite a while.

I then went down on her, which she enjoyed, then she went down on me, wich again was a whole new world for working girls, and even included a bit of rimming.....it is no surprise she says that she has quite a few repeat customers who ask for her or make appointments.

the actual sex was out of this world again. She really really got into it, wrapping her legs around me, going along with my rhythm, fluidly changing positions.

The girl has CIM in her program, and Anal, and I decided I wanted to try anal again. She was amazing.

I haven't been this impressed with a working girl in years, she is definitely in my all time top 3, and that after only one encounter.

Bablon all in all has not improved, but this girl is worth heading to a club just for a chance with her.

I spent an hour with her with anal, which was 180€, and I swear I still consider it a bargain.

Call ahead to see if she is there, because she is a reason to visit the club....if she isn't there don't even bother.

http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=20&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1

Jackyo
04-11-08, 10:57
The other highlight of this club used to be Lilijana.

Yes, it is the same large breasted Lilijana who worked at Blue Note and at La Bedo. Some of you know exactly who I am referring to.

She has a cult following like you wouldn't believe.

I say "used to be" because last I heard she had moved on. Destination unknown (maybe I'll try to find her on the RF).

Schade!

Willem2
04-11-08, 14:35
The other highlight of this club used to be Lilijana.

Yes, it is the same large breasted Lilijana who worked at Blue Note and at La Bedo. Some of you know exactly who I am referring to.

She has a cult following like you wouldn't believe.

I say "used to be" because last I heard she had moved on. Destination unknown (maybe I'll try to find her on the RF).

Schade!She isn't working at the moment (nowhere). If she starts again that will be probably again at Babylon ( info from herself)

CBGBConnisur
04-12-08, 05:39
Did Chanel, the half German half Turkish babe ever show up at this club again? She was amazing. I visit this club occasionally just because she was there.

Jackyo
04-12-08, 13:56
Did Chanel, the half German half Turkish babe ever show up at this club again? She was amazing. I visit this club occasionally just because she was there.
I had the pleasure myself something like five years ago.

I'll always remember her as she had an amazing olive complexion and a really exotic look. She was very uninhibited.

I watched her impale herself on this guy's dick in full view of everyone in the main Kontaktzimmer and milk him dry.

Those were the days when Babylon was a "must visit" club.

The new owners are hoping to bring it back to that status.

@Willem2: Thanks for the intel on Lilijana!

CBGBConnisur
04-19-08, 23:33
Are you kidding?? I did not see her at Babylon since August 2001. More like seven years. From what I saw in 2007, Babylon has a long way to go until its gets back to the status. I think that Chanel thing was more earthshaking since it happened a month before September 2001, we all know what a bad month that was for the world. During my visit to Partytreff Selm, I saw a woman who looked somewhat like Chanel, but was Latvian, not German Turkish. I have no idea why it is so easy to meet incredible women in Europe, when I go back to the English speaking world I am constantly let down, it is not even funny. Living in Sydney there are plenty of good looking women, but pretty much they are very predictable and all want the same shit.

Jackyo
04-20-08, 10:20
Are you kidding?? I did not see her at Babylon since August 2001. More like seven years. From what I saw in 2007, Babylon has a long way to go until its gets back to the status. I think that Chanel thing was more earthshaking since it happened a month before September 2001, we all know what a bad month that was for the world. During my visit to Partytreff Selm, I saw a woman who looked somewhat like Chanel, but was Latvian, not German Turkish. I have no idea why it is so easy to meet incredible women in Europe, when I go back to the English speaking world I am constantly let down, it is not even funny. Living in Sydney there are plenty of good looking women, but pretty much they are very predictable and all want the same shit.
Maybe it was seven years ago after all. I have to check my notes. Hard to believe 9.11 took place almost seven years ago.

I associate certain songs with certain time periods and certain women. I usually bring home a CD of the current German pop hit list (this background music plays at these clubs and it gets into your head). I play it in my car when I've driving around locally.

With Chanel the association is with Shaggy's "It wasn't me". Every now and then she would stand up and dance. Very erotic.

There are women who look good then there are "must have" women who you know when you see them you absolutely have to meet.

She was in the "must have" category.

CBGBConnisur
04-21-08, 15:04
Wonder what she looks like now? I got to see Margarita of DV at Living Room last year in 07 in Kaarst, the last time I saw her before that was in August 2001, still quite attractive but she did not seem to "Wow" like she did in the past.

I remember back then the guys at the Cfit tour, used to tout FKKs as good cheap sex, with the surging Euro it doesn't seem so cheap(I heard the Euro might buy as much as 3 to 4 US Dollars over the next several years, the Swiss Franc, Pound, Aussie and Canadian Dollar will also appreciate heavily against the Greenback), still rarely does a session go into triple figures even when translated into our devaluing US currency.

Breadman
04-21-08, 19:30
I remember back then the guys at the Cfit tour, used to tout FKKs as good cheap sex, with the surging Euro it doesn't seem so cheap(I heard the Euro might buy as much as 3 to 4 US Dollars over the next several years, the Swiss Franc, Pound, Aussie and Canadian Dollar will also appreciate heavily against the Greenback), still rarely does a session go into triple figures even when translated into our devaluing US currency.
Right now it costs about 75 us dollars for a half hour session...100 for an hour at Goldentime/PHG/VV. Its 250 per hour in Toronto and around 180 in Montreal. But you never get a full hours worth of action...take off 10 minutes at the beginning and sometimes 15 at the end...so you pay for 35~40 minutes tops. Plus you don't get to meet the girls beforehand...and these agency owners employ very good photoshop experts.

CBGBConnisur
04-22-08, 19:32
Half hour in Sydney is about 140 to 160AUD at local brothels, that is about 100 EUR. North America and the UK are both ridiculously expensive for P4P. Montreal has a lot of girls working out of apartments, thats better than escorts.

Ekliges Lauern
04-23-08, 00:25
Right now it costs about 75 us dollars for a half hour session...100 for an hour at Goldentime/PHG/VV. Its 250 per hour in Toronto and around 180 in Montreal. But you never get a full hours worth of action...take off 10 minutes at the beginning and sometimes 15 at the end...so you pay for 35~40 minutes tops. Plus you don't get to meet the girls beforehand...and these agency owners employ very good photoshop experts.

Agree P4P in North America is expensive. Toronto used to be a good deal when .75USD=1CAD. Now, not so good a deal. 140CAD half hour is available with the Chinese incalls. Montreal I rather like but for calling escorts for a good night fuck in my hotel room after an interesting day exploring the city. The FKK scene in Germany is a more full on, all day fuck fest experience. Apples and oranges.

Jackyo
05-03-08, 10:44
I found this announcement of their new Preispolitik which is a major simplification of their previously confusing price structure.

Note also the longer opening hours on Friday and Saturday.


Babylon Preise

Der Transparenz und der Übersichtlichkeit halber gelten im Babylon ab kommenden Montag folgende Preise:

Die Tageskarte - Preise

60-50-50

Die Tageskarte liegt bei 60 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 50 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 50 Euro.

Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.

Für Gruppen ab 5 Personen oder für besondere Events (Junggesellenparty, Privatparty, ...) gelten besondere Preise auf Anfrage.
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FKK Babylon
Time to return and check this club out!

Last time I was there, Eddy, one of the new owners, said they were working out an arrangment with a hotel nearby.

Its not easy to get to without a car. Its doable but it involves a sequence of transfers.

Travelerb69
05-03-08, 14:55
Jackyo, their prices seemed high to me, 60 to get in, no happy hour, 50 every 1/2 hour, so I have just checked at their web site, below, from what I understood entrance is 35, and first 1/2 hour 75, the following 55, the prices you copied will be the new ones? Anyway, both price structures are high, it has to be pretty good either in terms of line-up or services. They are in an area which the strongest competitor is Golden Time, not so far way...


Die Tageskarte - Preise

Die Tageskarte liegt bei 35 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 75 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 55 Euro.

Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.

Big30
05-03-08, 15:44
Die Tageskarte - Preise

Die Tageskarte liegt bei 35 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 75 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 55 Euro.

Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.

I was in Babylon Friday April 15. The price structure indeed now is (again) as quoted above. I counted about 10 girls. Food was OK.
There is public action in the barroom even sex in the basement!
Line-up could not impress me that much, only the girl from Polen Isabella but she was booked all evening.

The club really is not bad and the owner tries to make the best of it.
But they have strong competion with Gt, LR, PHG, VV not that far away!
O yeah you do not pay the girl after a room but you pay the club when you leave.

Regards,
Big30

Sexfan
05-03-08, 16:33
The prices jackyo copied were in use for a few days only. They came back to the old price structure (35 + 75 + 55 + 55 .....) after there were complaints about the new prices (60 + 50 + 50 + ....).

Jackyo
05-04-08, 02:39
The prices jackyo copied were in use for a few days only. They came back to the old price structure (35 + 75 + 55 + 55 .....) after there were complaints about the new prices (60 + 50 + 50 + ....).
I actually sent Eddy a note asking him to confirm.

This is what he wrote back:


Hallo Jackyo,
schön, von Dir zu hören.

Letztlich sind unsere Preise unverändert geblieben.
Wir hatten bekannt gegeben, daß wir, um uns anzupassen an andere Clubs, die
Preise auf 60-50-50 setzen würden. Aber man hat uns derart im Internet
angegriffen, daß wir alles unverändert lassen.
Liebe Grüße Eddy
In other words: they have reverted back to their old pricing structure.

I stand corrected.

Jackyo
06-06-08, 15:28
Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?

She is half Korean and half German.

A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.

Her tits though look to be, as they say, getuned.

Iseeu
06-06-08, 17:08
Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?

She is half Korean and half German.

A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.

Her tits though look to be, as they say, getuned.

...are ex- Bernd's and I had memorable sessions with both. see;

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614648&postcount=525( mahe)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730948&postcount=868 (saki)

I have to say that I am impressed by the lineup, and the website looks very professionally done. If mahe and saki, both very intelligent and also excellent performers are working there now, it warrants a visit to check it out.

When I spent time with Saki back in April, she told me that her plans were to return to Sudbad and help with the "berndsification" of that club. I'm disappointed that she's moved out of the Hof group. Does anyone know if they went ahead with the plan to change Sudbad?

BTW- they are "getuned" and they are fabulous, along with the rest of her assets.

Iseeu
06-06-08, 17:09
Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?

She is half Korean and half German.

A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.

Her tits though look to be, as they say, getuned.

...are ex- Bernd's and I had memorable sessions with both;

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614648&postcount=525 (Mahe)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730948&postcount=868 (Saki)

I have to say that I am impressed by the lineup, and the website looks very professionally done. If mahe and saki, both very intelligent, exotically beautiful and also excellent performers are working there now, it warrants a visit to check it out.

When I spent time with Saki back in April, she told me that her plans were to return to Sudbad and help with the "berndsification" of that club. I'm disappointed that she's moved out of the Hof group. Does anyone know if they went ahead with the plan to change Sudbad?

BTW- they are "getuned" and they are fabulous, along with the rest of her assets.

Breadman
06-06-08, 20:58
Website looks to be saying entrance is 35 euro's....not sure what the cost is for a half hour and an additional half hour though. Their extra charges seem to match PHG, GT and VV...25 cim, 50 anal....but I did notice a new charge that ive never run across myself...a 50 euro swallow charge. Not sure how they can add this on if all you wanted was a CIM?

Jackyo
06-08-08, 13:33
.. by the way, isn't posting much on this forum but if you follow the RF (the Rhein version) it seems he has been making this club his second home.

There was a time when this club offered an excellent selection and a service mentality which was pretty difficult to top.

I have always held out hope that it would rebound and maybe it will this time suceed with new management.

Breadman
06-08-08, 16:40
Can anyone figure out the rates?

Big30
06-09-08, 02:43
Can anyone figure out the rates?

Yes, just read this topic!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=738499&postcount=112

You pay after you leave the club. Not after you have had a session with a girl. Mahe and Saki are now working in Babylon! That is indeed correct.

Regards,
Big30

Jackyo
07-16-08, 20:22
If Chanel is back, I'm on the next flight to Dusseldorf/Koln.
The list of legendary women at Babylon is a long one.

Chanel was something else.

And then there was the incomparable Nina, who personified sex. Years after she quit there are still dudes on the RF trying to figure out what happened to her.

I was talking to Monika at Bernds when I was there two weeks ago. She is one of those women there whose career I've followed and we always have at least a short chat when I drop by.

I first met her at Wiago and then at Babylon. Then she made the switch to Babylon and she's been there at least two years now.

We did a walk on memory lane listing the women who worked at Babylon who she also knew.

When she mentioned Shirina, I let out an involuntary gasp. It caught the other women around us (and her) by surprise.

A friend of mine gets weak kneed just thinking about Shirina. She's now retired.

Peter
07-16-08, 22:33
I sort of fell for this one girl working there called isabele. She is 5'3" and ybe 100 pounds soaking wet. 22, no piercings and was a total nymho like I have never experienced in a club. Her cousin fro poland saw her pics on the site, drove 1200 km and scared the shit out of her and she is out of the game after onl 8 weeks in. She was booked day and night at babylon, and I was guilty of multi-hour bookings as well.

i will miss her from the game, and I ight even head to poland at some time to visit her...she was just that good...a damn natural...

this cousin bust thing happened 2 hours after I had a 3some with her and a female friend of mine I brought with me to the club to give a 3some a try.....it was really a fun day until then....

I have been with Saki too, and her service and peronality are great.

The club is doing OK, I think Carmen is also quite attrctive.

I mean the club has more girls who do anal than virtually any other club I know. It still isn't a guarantee for a good day, but it is improving.

The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....

the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.

Jackyo
07-17-08, 10:32
The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....

the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.
He is more than willing to listen to suggestions on how to improve the club and he follows through. He is, indeed, a former customer and knows what this club was like during its glory years.

Yes, areas for improvement include the food and the facilties which are about ten years old now.

The shower hardware needs to be replaced.

Every nook and cranny of this club brings back memories.

They once had an indoor pool in the basement. It was renovated maybe six or seven years ago and now has a seating area.

Peter
07-19-08, 08:29
what I sometimes like about tese small clubs like babylon or heavensgate, or wildenrath in the old days or bernd's is the non professional homey feel of the club. You see the girls go back inot the kitchen and sit around the table nd complain about little things like their car needing to get repaired or a broken faucet at home. They grab a cookie, or a piece of cake, say a couple fo words and walk out...no glamorous talk, it is all very matter of fact....it is all, I just got back from having soe guy cum in my face, let me grab a quick glass of fanta because there is a guy out there waitig for me to shove a 10 inch dildo up his ass, and after that soe guy wo wants to lick my ass and then do me anal......

it seems really surreal, and has so many disconnects I find it fascinating.....

I mean places like Moulin Rouge or top strip clubs in the states make this giant illusion of untuchability and glamour around the women...the DJ announces her before the dance, you are seperated, you only see the outfit, the stage the lights, and then the DJ maybe says tat she will deign to allow herself to be available for private dances....well none fo that in these small clubs....normal girls who will fuck you for money, because they need money to get through the normal everyday problems that we all face.....

If you go to one of these clubs more often, and you have the type of personality that lends to it, you will be surprised how you sort of become part of the family.....a bunch of old girls from wildenrath are working at Trumparadies, or Monic still works at GT, and when I see them, for both it is like seeing an old friend....

Jackyo
07-19-08, 11:53
what I sometimes like about tese small clubs like babylon or heavensgate, or wildenrath in the old days or bernd's is the non professional homey feel of the club. You see the girls go back inot the kitchen and sit around the table nd complain about little things like their car needing to get repaired or a broken faucet at home. They grab a cookie, or a piece of cake, say a couple fo words and walk out...no glamorous talk, it is all very matter of fact....it is all, I just got back from having soe guy cum in my face, let me grab a quick glass of fanta because there is a guy out there waitig for me to shove a 10 inch dildo up his ass, and after that soe guy wo wants to lick my ass and then do me anal......

it seems really surreal, and has so many disconnects I find it fascinating.....

I mean places like Moulin Rouge or top strip clubs in the states make this giant illusion of untuchability and glamour around the women...the DJ announces her before the dance, you are seperated, you only see the outfit, the stage the lights, and then the DJ maybe says tat she will deign to allow herself to be available for private dances....well none fo that in these small clubs....normal girls who will fuck you for money, because they need money to get through the normal everyday problems that we all face.....

If you go to one of these clubs more often, and you have the type of personality that lends to it, you will be surprised how you sort of become part of the family.....a bunch of old girls from wildenrath are working at Trumparadies, or Monic still works at GT, and when I see them, for both it is like seeing an old friend....
... of what these smaller clubs are all about, Peter!

I'd much rather invest my time and money in them because you do become part of the "family", so to speak. You get to know them and they get to know you. There is less churn and turnover. And you do get a slice of life experience chatting with the girls.

The larger clubs are way too cold and impersonal for my taste.

The smaller clubs have talented amateurs or semi-pros; local girls with a financial objective who will have sex anyway whether it be with you or with someone else so their thinking is: why not make some money at the same time? The transactional hardcore professionals who want to "flip as many burgers" as they can and are less interested in creating relationships and a Stammkunde just don't put as much into it as these girls do.

I saw Anna at Bernds two weeks ago. She is formerly from Wildenrath and chatting with her about the girls who used to work at Wildenrath is like taking a walk down memory lane.

If you do get to see Monika at GT, say hi for her. They've not been in touch and she seemed to be eager to find out how she and the other former Wildenrath girls have been (GT doesn't do it for me so it will be a while before I return. I'll visit Blue Note several times over before I return to GT ).

CBGBConnisur
08-04-08, 15:07
I sort of fell for this one girl working there called isabele. She is 5'3" and ybe 100 pounds soaking wet. 22, no piercings and was a total nymho like I have never experienced in a club. Her cousin fro poland saw her pics on the site, drove 1200 km and scared the shit out of her and she is out of the game after onl 8 weeks in. She was booked day and night at babylon, and I was guilty of multi-hour bookings as well.

i will miss her from the game, and I ight even head to poland at some time to visit her...she was just that good...a damn natural...

this cousin bust thing happened 2 hours after I had a 3some with her and a female friend of mine I brought with me to the club to give a 3some a try.....it was really a fun day until then....

I have been with Saki too, and her service and peronality are great.

The club is doing OK, I think Carmen is also quite attrctive.

I mean the club has more girls who do anal than virtually any other club I know. It still isn't a guarantee for a good day, but it is improving.

The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....

the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.

A Vet runs a Brothel??? LOL. I went to Babylon last year, the place is a total shadow of what it used to be in 2001, the last time I visited the club in 2004, the women had clothes on. There was a Tunisian girl named Laila I met in 2004 and another tall German lady who had lived in Nevada, there was another young blonde German woman who was quiet, I ran into her again in 2007, she did not even recognize me. The German woman from Vegas this time was fully clothed and she looked like she put on weight. The quiet German girl was also still there. Too bad I could not run into Chanel a few years later.

Jackyo
08-28-08, 13:12
Until September 14th, they have summer pricing. (After that, who knows?)

Entry fee is 50 Euros, a thirty minute session is 50 Euros and 30 minute extensions beyond that are 50 Euros.

They call it their 50-50-50 deal.

CBGBConnisur
08-31-08, 22:48
Babylon is still not up to the strength it once had as one of the best FKK clubs in Germany.

Jackyo
09-16-08, 15:48
According to an announcement on the Youppie forum, this pricing arrangement was rolled over after its expiration date which was September 14th.

There is, by the way, an Afro-American chick who works there these days, La Toya. Her photo is on their website.

Jackyo
12-06-08, 22:21
Babylon had a reduced entry fee yesterday for dudes who came to their Christmas party dressed in a Santa Claus suit: 1/2 price. A hat was not enough; full costume required.

If that dude did a strip tease dance, his entry was for free.

I'd attach a photo image but its too large to upload.

Jackyo
12-19-08, 13:01
The current staff includes a couple of Romanian women and a couple of Frenchwomen too. I'd never met Romanian women at this club and to have Frenchwomen is quite new as well.

I do ask myself if the Pia who is named on the website is the same Pia who worked there way way back in 99. If yes, she's been at this a while. I'd run into her at Wiago and then afterwards she moved to Samya. She doesn't have any photos so it can't be confirmed.

Iseki
12-19-08, 17:52
No not the same Pia. This one I believe is Turkish, short, heavy, seems nice. Not the Pia of Nina's era.

Jackyo
12-19-08, 22:34
No not the same Pia. This one I believe is Turkish, short, heavy, seems nice. Not the Pia of Nina's era.
Last I saw Pia she had been putting on quite a bit of weight.

She always was kind of sassy. Really funny once you got to know her.

Iseeu
03-11-09, 20:51
I’ve been looking for an opportunity to get back to Babylon after all of these years, after hearing that its new management is committed to bringing it back to its former glory as one of the best of the NRW clubs. On a Thurs. a couple of weeks ago, I had about 5 hours free in the afternoon after a series of business meetings in Cologne so I went for a drive out to Elsdorf after not having been there for almost 3 years. It was Weiberfassnacht that day, the first day of carnival in NRW, and according to their website, they were having an all day Weiberfassnacht party which sounded promising. Despite my extended absence, I was able to drive straight to Elsdorf without the need for any navigation aids. There are some things your mind just never forgets.

I actually would have had more time for the club if not for the mad scene in Cologne that day. Masses of people walking In the streets, many streets closed off by police, major thoroughfares turned into one way streets, loud music blaring everywhere, etc. My meetings started mid morning and already there were crowds of drunk people in the city center. To get to my meetings which were held in an hotel and office near the DOM, I had to dodge hordes of drunk revelers in ridiculous outfits, while stepping on shards from broken beer bottles which littered the sidewalks and streets. Lots of pretty ladies in outlandish garb, but the low temperatures and vicious winds, kept everything covered up.

I had some commitments arranged for that evening and night and would have to leave by 7:30. I pulled out of the parking lot under the DOM at 2 p.m. but due to the crazy traffic situation, I didn’t get to Babylon until just before 3. I parked on the street to complete a phone call through my closed windows, could already hear the loud silly music which is a mainstay of the Carnival. That music once inside, was ear-splitting, hitting supersonic decibel levels and made conversation virtually impossible.

The facility hasn’t changed much over the years. The men’s changing area is now under the stairs and no longer on the 1st landing near the entrance. What used to be the men’s changing room is now the women’s changing area. From the lockers downstairs, there’s a sad excuse for a shower room, so I constantly showered in the circular shower all the way up in the upstairs bathroom. Instead of the pool, which they got rid of a long time ago, there’s a sunken area with bench seating, which gets little use. What is new in the basement, near the door leading to the small yard, is a very nice relax area with a couch, some armchairs, fake fireplace and a plasma TV. On the main floor, they’ve replaced the couches both in the buffet area and in the main lounge. Great buffet spread out, which could have been exceptional due to the party day. Those great big bedrooms upstairs are still there, but newly remodeled, and I had all of my 3 sessions in those. Not many changes since my last visit.

But that’s where the similarity ends. No naked woman to welcome me into the club and show me to the locker, although I did see this service provided later on to a first time visitor. Those incredible service standards that we all remember which made it into the top 3 or 4 of NRW clubs? Not very visible. The Bernd’s like scenes of debauchery on the couches in the lounge? There were 2 such scenes during the almost 3 hours that I was in the lounge, in both of which I was somehow involved. Those blonde and brunette nubile naked beauties parading around the room, then plopping into the first available lap? Nowhere to be seen. With the very loud carnival music constantly pounding away, there was little conversation and no banter between the barman, SP and customers which I remember as being one of the unique features about this club.

Due to the announced party, the place was hopping with mongers, but sadly, there were only 8 SP (Anita, Cassie, Kim, Leyla, Mandy, Minou, Pia, and one nameless whose picture isn’t on their website) in the house during my visit and with 20 or more mongers at all times, there was lots of waiting around while looking forlornly at men in towels. A number of the guys looked to be regulars, were well known by the staff and SP, and received cheerful welcomes and premium attention from the ladies. There seemed to never be women relaxing in the lounge, since almost as soon as one made her way into the lounge she was swept off to a room. The 2 SP that I was in particular hoping to see that day, Sabrina and Mahe were not in the house.

Not the way to revive a club.

Now, I don’t know if many of the regular SP didn’t show due to the festivities, but there was an announced party on their website and I assume from the food spread that they expected a larger than normal crowd,so they should have had proper staffing. And, while I am a firm believer that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and given the right circumstances will dip my rod in almost any available pot, this was not a quality lineup in terms of looks. Certainly not reminiscent of the bevy of peroxide E. Europeans, and beautiful brunettes that this club used to be famous for. Fair not great. No ugly wenches but none that were spectacular either.

I was on a tight schedule and needed to plan well to fit 3 sessions in before my planned departure time. Saw a very beautiful dark haired spinner dressed as a Hawaiian dancer enter the lounge. Minou has a very pretty face, nice proportionate body, 32B, French/ German ancestry. She sat down not far away from me, so I called her over. Not the greatest conversationalist, but I sensed a spark beneath her reserved demeanor. No couch action at all. We went upstairs to one of those great big bedrooms with the great big bed. No DFK, no fingering, everything else OK. She gave a a fair BBBJ, slightly too long in the tooth, but OK, and pressed in for a quick closing. I demurred and went to town on her. As she began to get visibly excited she stopped the action and went back to working on me. At some point she rolled the condom on and climbed on top. She was hot and tight, but she had this reserved look on her face which was a turn off. I flipped her over, so I could look into her eyes and came at about the 35 minute mark and we laid there for another 5 minutes talking. So in total we were in the room for about 40 minutes, which she told me as we were leaving the room, and that she would charge a double session. She walked downstairs, without offering me a towel, so I went downstairs got myself a towel and went back upstairs to use the circular shower. Very unspectacular session and I thought to myself, certainly not up to the high standards that I would have expected at this club.

Luckily, that session was the low point of the day. Sat in the sauna, showered and ten enjoyed that great buffet and sat down in the main lounge. Not more than 10 inches away from me, and sharing the same small coffee table were Leyla and a German guy talking. Then they started kissing, then he she opened his towel and began jerking him off, then she climbed on to his head and he ate her out to her vocal delight, then she went down on all fours and sucked and sucked and sucked until he came in her mouth. When he was done, she motioned to me to hand her the tissues so she could empty her mouth. Instead I handed her one of those plastic party hats that were strewn around the room, and the entire room of people, who had been avidly watching the only show in town, cracked up as Leyla implored me with her eyes and hand motions to hand her the tissues, and I refused telling her to just spit it out in the hat.

Okay- that’s more like we had come to expect from this club in the past. I realized that if I didn’t take control of the situation, I would have to literally take matters into my own hand since there was no one in the lounge that even remotely seemed zimmer worthy. I had seen Mandy go off with a guy more than an hour earlier, but hadn’t come back yet. When I finally saw her enter the ladies changing room, I got up, waited and accosted her at the door to the girl's locker room to reserve a session. Nice person, very friendly, great attitude, Tall blonde, solidly built and with great smiling eyes. We sat on a couch in the buffet area, since this seemed to be her regular perch (I found out why- the 2 couches there are much more comfortable to sit on for long stretches than the couches in the lounge.), we talked and stroked each other’s arms for about 10 minutes, and then she said, I’d like to talk some more, but I’m booked for the rest of the day and if you want to go to a zimmer, now’s the time. So off we went again to the big master bedroom upstairs. She went right to her standard script, but I asked her to lie down and began to stroke down the length of her body. When I got to her feet, she sighed and really got into the massage/ toe sucking. I licked up her long legs to her honey pot and dove in. Very nice, but after a few minutes she asked me to stop, and began a similar treatment with me, stroking the length of my body then coming back to iseeu jr. I ended up spewing gobs onto her beautiful breasts. Nice session with a very nice girl who is constantly on demand. Another 40 minutes in the room, but this time there was no indication that I would be charged for the double session and I wasn’t.

I washed up again in the circular shower and went downstairs to the bar, where Eddy the owner was now holding court. He asked me my opinion and I told him how much we were all rooting for him to succeed in bringing the club back to its old self. I told him that so far from what I’d seen, it hasn’t gotten back to its old public raunchiness or service level. He said that I shouldn’t judge based on just one visit on a party day. Okay he has something of a point, but I would have expected that especially on Weiberfassnacht, a nonsensical holiday in which even the starchiest German lets his hair down, would be a chance for the club to show off its wilder side.

It was time for my last session and I knew that I wanted Leila, the only one of the current crop who seemed to remember and practice the free and open atmosphere that this club built its reputation on. I was sitting on one of the couches in the buffet area when she came back from a session and sat down in the lounge. I motioned for her to come and join me, she sat down splayed all over me hands in my crotch and we began to talk. She asked if I had been to the club before since when she saw me earlier I had looked familiar to her. I told her that we had gone to a zimmer together 4 or 5 years ago, but that I hadn’t been back to Babylon for almost 3 years. She told me that the club had almost totally died, but that since Eddy and his team had taken over, business was much better. She was then and still is a real fireplug- plenty of energy and no inhibitions. She opened my towel and began licking my balls, I asked her to turn around and dove down into her muschi. We became the only show in town. Eddy walked by and said some words of encouragement as did the thekefrau. After about 15 minutes of this, she suggested that we go to a zimmer so off we went, once again to that big upstairs bedroom. We get there, she lies down on her back, points between her legs, and says “continue” so I do. We had a wild, wild session, with multiple positions, falling off the bed at one point, lots of laughing and slurping. I’m not sure how I came, but I do remember ending the session with me giving her a body to body massage and foot massage, off the clock.

I showered again in the circular shower, went downstairs, dressed and paid for my sessions. Leyla saw me leaving and came over for a hug. Minou saw me and stayed where she was on the couch. Left a little after 7:30 p.m.

Summary: Its’ a good club, not great yet. Hands on management, decent physical facility except for those downstairs showers, some stars. It has a long way to go to reach its old stardom status, especially, if they don’t succeed in recruiting some more service oriented staff. I’ll wait for a bit before making a return journey, but, then I’ll keep my promise to Eddy to come back and check it out under more normal circumstances. Still, it will take some great turn of events for it to replace Bernd’s or even Oase at the top of my fave clubs list.

Jackyo
03-13-09, 08:50
I would love to see this club come back but after reading Iseeu's report I'm also not surprised that it is still a work in progress.

It never was a large club selection-wise but a decade ago it had very good recruiting standards and it always was an edited selection. No filler like you see at the larger clubs.

They used to price services at a premium to any other club in the area and I used to pay that pricing willingly.

Eddy does an excellent job trying to connect with his German and French speaking clientele. He posts actively, runs free entrance promotions. He listens to what you say and will write you back personally if you have a comment to share.

Now if recruiting would just fall into place.

Breadman
03-13-09, 22:11
It never was a large club selection-wise but a decade ago it had very good recruiting standards and it always was an edited selection. No filler like you see at the larger clubs.


I was just at Oase and someone pointed out a sign in the club saying it had just passed its 10th year. The scene has changed drastically over the last decade with the arrival of Oase and World...and in the last couple of years with Goldentime's conception. What other clubs might come along in the next couple of years...and what clubs might fade away? I was informed the same owner owned both locations that Oase and World now reside. With this economy, who's to say another 'mansion' or 'villa' type property might come available.

Jackyo
03-17-09, 11:06
I was just at Oase and someone pointed out a sign in the club saying it had just passed its 10th year. The scene has changed drastically over the last decade with the arrival of Oase and World...and in the last couple of years with Goldentime's conception. What other clubs might come along in the next couple of years...and what clubs might fade away? I was informed the same owner owned both locations that Oase and World now reside. With this economy, who's to say another 'mansion' or 'villa' type property might come available.
Everything started out with Bernds and then there were the Red Carpet clubs in the Ruhr. So everything started out really small. Bernds has been around at least twenty years.

The trend over the years has been to larger and larger clubs with an emphasis on wellness facilities.

Someone should write a history sometime.

I'm not sure about the owner being the same of the locations of Oase and World. World used to be the villa of a furniture factory owner until it was bought and converted by HA in 2003.

Considering today's economic environment, launching a club these days would be an extremely risky venture.

Dedalus
03-18-09, 00:33
I’ve been looking for an opportunity to get back to Babylon after all of these years, after hearing that its new management is committed to bringing it back to its former glory as one of the best of the NRW clubs. On a Thurs. a couple of weeks ago, I had about 5 hours free in the afternoon after a series of business meetings in Cologne so I went for a drive out to Elsdorf after not having been there for almost 3 years. It was Weiberfassnacht that day, the first day of carnival in NRW, and according to their website, they were having an all day Weiberfassnacht party which sounded promising. Despite my extended absence, I was able to drive straight to Elsdorf without the need for any navigation aids. There are some things your mind just never forgets.


Summary: Its’ a good club, not great yet. Hands on management, decent physical facility except for those downstairs showers, some stars. It has a long way to go to reach its old stardom status, especially, if they don’t succeed in recruiting some more service oriented staff. I’ll wait for a bit before making a return journey, but, then I’ll keep my promise to Eddy to come back and check it out under more normal circumstances. Still, it will take some great turn of events for it to replace Bernd’s or even Oase at the top of my fave clubs list.


Hey Iseeu,

Thanks so much for your Babylon update, and so sorry for taking long to express my gratitude. Hectic schedule, and what not. I'm sure that you can relate.

I sure was hoping to read a bit more positive things about the place besides a well-booked Mandy, however your report still triggered a number of fond memories and I do plan on making an Elsdorf run when time allows.

You know, I never really had a problem with the facilities there. In fact I always found it to be more comfy that Bernd's and many of the Red Carpets by a long sight. The "new" changing facilities certainly don't sound like an improvement though.

Again, thanks for the investigative reporting.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Bacon Sandwich
05-20-09, 00:46
Hi everyone,

I am considering a trip to Babylon, which is more directly on my path later this week, but also love GoldenTime, which is much further out of my way, but probably worth it. Has anyone been to Babylon since Iseeu's report a few months ago?

Thanks all for any information you can provide!

BS

Kwadroon
05-24-09, 20:18
Hi everyone,

I am considering a trip to Babylon, which is more directly on my path later this week, but also love GoldenTime, which is much further out of my way, but probably worth it. Has anyone been to Babylon since Iseeu's report a few months ago?

Thanks all for any information you can provide!

BSHi Bacon Sandwich,

I was there on the 8th of May, service is as good as ever. Sheila with her lovely huge bottom, Pan with her hot service, there isn't a part of your anatomy she won't lick, Tamara lovely, and Tina nice service as well, but doesn't speak any language but maygar. I also was entitled to a nice BBBJ From Layla.

Have fun!

Jbourne1234
07-02-09, 16:04
Out that way in the weekend, which club would be recommended?

Thanks

Jackyo
07-17-09, 23:59
Out that way in the weekend, which club would be recommended?

Thanks
I've not been to Club M but there are a few ex-Bernds girls who now work there. It is run by Manuela who used to be a Thekenfrau at Bernds.

Babylon was an all time favorite of mine until about 2005 when I had a billing dispute. There have been positive reports coming out of it since it has been under new management.

Ortos
07-18-09, 06:32
Babylon was an all time favorite of mine until about 2005 when I had a billing dispute. There have been positive reports coming out of it since it has been under new management.

Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negatives going on at the moment, namely severe rennovation of the facilities and a penchant for not having a very extensive line-up early in the day. However, you are most correct to point out that there are some very positive girls working there, including an ex-Bernd's girl, Mahe, who won the bbbj Queen award from one of the prominent German boards... By chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?

Ortos

Excess
07-18-09, 10:48
Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negativesBy chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?

Ortos

An assessment will be appreciated as you mention Ortos, however this member for one is most pleased to once again see Jackyo's post and advice below. Greetings, Jackyo.

Ortos
07-18-09, 15:58
An assessment will be appreciated as you mention Ortos, however this member for one is most pleased to once again see Jackyo's post and advice below. Greetings, Jackyo.

Yes, absolutely! I echo your sentiments...

Another point about Babylon: Never been there myself, however, on a recent visit to GT, I found myself sitting next to an ex-Babylon girl named Dhalia, or similar. I had previously heard of her reputation from other senior mongers a few months back, so when the unplanned opportunity arose and we started talking, I immediatly knew the door was open for a very hot hour...I walked through that door and was rewarded with one of the top sessions I've had in a long, long time. Quite an erotic girl with a top-notch service attitude. I really think you would have to try very hard not to be enamoured with this girl and have fully satisfying session.

My point: If she is representative of the type of service one receives at Babylon, then we should put it on the top of our clubs-to-try list! It's this type of session experience that, according to JackyO, one finds at the smaller fkks in/around NRW...

Ortos

Basketcase
07-19-09, 00:19
Another point about Babylon: Never been there myself, however, on a recent visit to GT, I found myself sitting next to an ex-Babylon girl named Dhalia, or similar. I had previously heard of her reputation from other senior mongers a few months back, so when the unplanned opportunity arose and we started talking, I immediatly knew the door was open for a very hot hour...I walked through that door and was rewarded with one of the top sessions I've had in a long, long time. Quite an erotic girl with a top-notch service attitude. I really think you would have to try very hard not to be enamoured with this girl and have fully satisfying session.

My point: If she is representative of the type of service one receives at Babylon, then we should put it on the top of our clubs-to-try list! It's this type of session experience that, according to JackyO, one finds at the smaller fkks in/around NRW...

I know Dahlia (Germany) at Golden Time. Yes, there are a few seniors that have a liking for Dahlia's charms. She is pretty quick in between sessions in the ladies room but apart from that she seems quite popular.

I expect to be making my debut visit to Babylon in July but most probably August when I have a visit scheduled. I have an eye on the website and on recent reports of the renovations from various forums.

Cheers

Jackyo
07-22-09, 15:22
Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negatives going on at the moment, namely severe rennovation of the facilities and a penchant for not having a very extensive line-up early in the day. However, you are most correct to point out that there are some very positive girls working there, including an ex-Bernd's girl, Mahe, who won the bbbj Queen award from one of the prominent German boards... By chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?

Ortos
Hey Ortos,

It is on my list of clubs to drop in on in 09 but my current GF situation may not make this possible. Sigh...

There is something to be said for having regular sex with a chick who knows your every want and need. Being able to bareback her is a treat plus having a true GFE is not to be discounted either. I marvel at guys who write here that they can get a GFE from a chick in thirty minutes.

On the other hand, I miss the variety.

Marlow
07-23-09, 17:51
Yes, Jackyo, variety is the spice of life!
Agreed that the thirty minute GFE is an oxymoron, probably.
GFE as defined by working girls in Germany is - sex like your girlfriend gives you which is why you come to me for sex.
So, we shall be seeing you soon?

Bobo.fr
08-10-09, 23:02
1) Babylon's web site is only in German version : I would like to make sure that a No German-speaking guy (me) can do something there

2) Does the club have places for sun bathes ?

Thanks

Boomer10
08-11-09, 02:08
1) Babylon's web site is only in German version : I would like to make sure that a No German-speaking guy (me) can do something there

2) Does the club have places for sun bathes ?

Thanks

I don't speak german and have never had any problems. Of the current lineup, I've only met Carmen. She speaks excellent english. Eddie (the manager/owner?) speaks very good english.

If you're asking about an out door area, not really. There's a very small area in the back but I don't recall seeing anyone out there.

Basketcase
08-26-09, 22:43
FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009


Privatclub Babylon
Oststrasse 12
50189 Elsdorf
Tel. 0049 -(0) -2274- 90 55 88

www.privatclub-babylon.de

Opening times:
Ma. - Do. 12:00 - 24:00
Vr. - Sa. 12:00 - 02:00
Zon. 14.00 - 22.00

Just off the A61 exit Bergheim

Prices in Babylon:
Entrance 50 €,
First 30 minutes € 50, a further 30 min 50 €, etc…
I did not enquire as to the cost of extras like CIM, Anal or COB.

Arrival 12:15
Departure 16:30
Time in club: 4 hours 15 minutes

I flew into Nord Rhein Westfalen (NRW) from my homeland. My flight cost me €5 one way so was a bit more expensive than I would like to pay. In the arrivals terminal I quickly sorted out 2 extra lots of euros from the Volksbank ATM to add to my residual euro stash from my visit to NRW 2 weekends ago. Sixti hired to me a BMW 118 which included a Sat Nav for €47.98 for 2 days. I had my own pre-programmed with hotels, pensions, bed & breakfasts, sauna clubs, partyteffs, FKKs, parenclubs, and brothels so I used my own Sat Nav.

The drive from the airport to Elsdorf took 1 hour 15 minutes. It was a nice drive and I was not in a hurry. I am on holiday. I arrived at Babylon at 11:40 and parked in the customer car park to the side of the building. The club opens at 12:00 so I sat in the car and read my historical novel which I had picked up in my homeland.

Eventually I decided it was safe to make an entrance. I went to the front door and buzzed the door and went through the security gate to reception. On finding that this was my first time in Babylon I was explained by the blond receptionist in English that Babylon was a naked club so men wore towels and women were naked or wore some lingerie. Entrance was €50 and included use of all the facilities and buffet food. Sessions with girls was €50 for half an hour. I was given two towels, one larger one which I assumed was the one that you wrapped around your waist and a smaller hand towel which I expected was the one that you used for drying yourself after a shower. The blond receptionist then took my name and wrote it on a card which I expect was my tally sheet for sessions which I would pay on departure.

The blond receptionist asked the only lady working Gabriela to show me around. Gabriela took me to the basement and showed me to my locker (number 3) and also pointed out the saunas, the whirl pool, the showers and the shoes. I was not sure where to get fresh towels from but saw in the laundry room that was in the basement that it was stacked with towels.

After I changed into naked and had showered I went back to the ground level and was taken in hand by Gabriela who got me a drink and showed me that I could help myself to the lunch buffet.

Facilities included a very large Kino and many couches and beds. I can see that this Kino is one of the best I have seen of any FKK or sauna club and is up there with Palace except there is no tiered seating. I spent an hour here just lying on a bed and lazily watched Private’s Uranus Experiment part II from 1999 with Silvia Saint taking it up the trade’s man’s entrance.

Babylon has a nice above ground whirlpool with places for 4 persons and maybe 8 at a squeeze if the other 4 were naked ladies. There was a nice few settings for bubbles, jets and a waterfall. The back garden is not overlooked, but the front garden facing onto the road I suspect is overlooked by the house across the street and the tour bus company adjacent since the fence is so low.

There is a bio sauna at 45 degrees Celsius and a sauna at 95 degrees Celsius. I saw Gabriela fuck a friendly German guy in the bio sauna after they had gotten frisky in the whirl pool. Gabriela had asked me to get into the whirl pool too but I though three was a crowd. These are good facilities. Babylon also has its own in house masseur. The locker room was clean and the lockers were large enough to fit your sports bag if you have to being that in as well.

Showers were all being done up nicely both in the basement and in the upstairs area. There is even a sun bed which is pay per use.

The lounge area for contact was quite stylish with couches all around and coffee tables for plates of food and drink. There was a bar and was also where the sound system was kept for the music selection. In the lounge area was also the single pole and podium for pole dancing by the girls. Eddy has done a lot of good work to improve the place.

I spent a bit of time in the back garden reading my local newspapers and enjoying the sunshine.

The hot food was available around 15:00 and it was nice with pork patties, potato fritters with toppings of either bacon and onion or smoked salmon and caviar. I sat with the German guy on the outside bench table in the garden that opens onto the lounge area.

The starting line up of 3 girls for 13:00 was down one girl who had called in sick. Gabriela was the only girl available at 12:00.

I was on the look out for Sabine (Germany) and also Mandy (Poland). I did not see Sabine and Eddie told me that Mandy like most of his Polish girls were on holidays. I was fine with this as I knew it being August that customer numbers were down and so the ladies would also be down in attendance as well.

Eddie and I chatted and I got to understand some of his insight into the business, the girls and what the club is like and will be like. There can be up to 17 girls on a top night and on party nights maybe 100 customers.

I think I will keep Babylon on my club circuit list and look in on how it going. I really like the facilities and I can see it is a good club. I really liked the Kino and would love to do sessions in that big and open room with couches and beds in abundance. Keep up the good work Eddie.


*** Line up before 16:30 ***

1. Anita (Romania), 21 years, a tender or sympathetic looking girl, light brown-haired, blue-green eyes and a C cup size breasts, 1.65 m tall.
2. Gabriela (South America), 24 years, quite a beauty with long black hair, dark brown eyes and a B cup size breast and Latina looks, 1.65 m tall and 54 kg.
3. Jessy? (Poland) 24 years young, blond, 1.60 m tall, blue eyes and A cup breasts.
4. Kim (Germany?), 29 years, tall blonde, leggy.
5. May (Thailand) 22 years, a pretty girl, slim build that speaks German and Thai.

Dedalus
08-26-09, 23:25
FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009



I was on the look out for Sabine (Germany) and also Mandy (Poland). I did not see Sabine and Eddie told me that Mandy like most of his Polish girls were on holidays. I was fine with this as I knew it being August that customer numbers were down and so the ladies would also be down in attendance as well.




Thanks for the Babylon update!!!

Word on the street is that Sabine is back at Samya. Can't guarantee it though.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Ekliges Lauern
08-27-09, 01:27
FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009
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Did you session with anyone?

Basketcase
08-27-09, 08:56
Thanks for the Babylon update!!!

Word on the street is that Sabine is back at Samya. Can't guarantee it though.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Dedalus,

Thank you for the supporting comment on the write up.

I will be looking into Samya pretty soon on one of the better days of the week. Sabine is not listed on the Samya models list unless she is called something else at Samya. No problem. I'll see what I will see at Samya.

I am even considering Bernds.

Basketcase
08-27-09, 09:06
Did you session with anyone?

Ekliges Lauern,

Session? As in actually going to a room with any sex worker or performing in public whilst at Babylon with an orgasm ending by me? Sorry, then I left Babylon unpopped. A bit like what happened at Partytreff Onasbruck and Sauna club Acapulco.

I hope I have better luck at Samya www.samya.de
and maybe also Pauschal sauna club www.pauschal-saunaclub.de which are also on the trip schedule. I am building up confidence to visit Bernds www.bernds-sauna-club.de.

Definite visit venues so far are:

Golden Time www.goldentime.de
Oase www.fkk-oase.de
World www.fkk-world.de
Villa Vertigo www.villavertigo.de

Potential for Palace due to my arrival time in FFM. www.the-palace.de


Grtz,

Creature2
08-27-09, 09:39
Ekliges Lauern,

Session? As in actually going to a room with any sex worker or performing in public whilst at Babylon with an orgasm ending by me? Sorry, then I left Babylon unpopped. A bit like what happened at Partytreff Onasbruck and Sauna club Acapulco.

I hope I have better luck at Samya www.samya.de
and maybe also Pauschal sauna club www.pauschal-saunaclub.de which are also on the trip schedule. I am building up confidence to visit Bernds www.bernds-sauna-club.de.

Definite visit venues so far are:

Golden Time www.goldentime.de
Oase www.fkk-oase.de
World www.fkk-world.de
Villa Vertigo www.villavertigo.de

Potential for Palace due to my arrival time in FFM. www.the-palace.de


Grtz,

BC,

When do you plan to pay a visit to Paschal sauna club?
I will be around this weekend and I will text you when I land to NRW.

Regards,
C2

Basketcase
08-27-09, 09:43
BC,

When do you plan to pay a visit to Paschal sauna club?
I will be around this weekend and I will text you when I land to NRW.

Regards,
C2

I'll go when you and your travel companions go. I'll PM you.

Dedalus
08-27-09, 12:09
Dedalus,

Thank you for the supporting comment on the write up.

I will be looking into Samya pretty soon on one of the better days of the week. Sabine is not listed on the Samya models list unless she is called something else at Samya. No problem. I'll see what I will see at Samya.

I am even considering Bernds.


Goes by the name Leni at Samya. She's there now.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Basketcase
08-27-09, 12:57
Goes by the name Leni at Samya. She's there now.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Thank you Dedalus. You are a goldmine of information. I can see Leni / Sabine is working tonight, Friday and Saturday. I will make a trip to Samya. There is at least one guy I know who will around in Samya, he is a veteran of Samya, so I will go as his wingman.

I will provide a report of my premiere visit to Samya. I am told Leni / Sabine has one of the best proportioned and formed arses in NRW. I have got to see this!!!

Mambomike
02-19-10, 12:29
Spent Wed evening until well beyond closing and had three very GFE like sessions with Stella, Tina, and Celina (Ro). It was a very slow night, but the girls were nice (6-8) and gave good service. 50 per 30 min, 50 for next 30 min, 25 for extras. Facilities were nice, plenty of room to relax, food was cold and not too good. I will write a more detailed report later.

Mambomike
02-25-10, 14:18
after leaving duisburg and checking into a hotel near koln, i headed out to babylon in elsdorf, following my gps but not really knowing where i was going. not far off the main highway, my gps told me to turn left – but there was no left to be found, only a long steel barrier. nonetheless, there was another left about 800 m further down the road and my gps recalculated a route right to the bablylon door about 18:00 hours, with a bright blue neon sign, saying “sauna club”. although there was parking available on the street, i pulled into and parked in the gravel lot behind the club, lit with an overhead streetlamp. there didn’t seem to be many cars around, but i knew the club might be slow on a wednesday evening.

inside, i found spacious, nice facilities, after paying the 60 euro entry fee. the thekefrau (not bad looking, by the way) did not speak very much english, but asked one of the girls to explain the system and costs, then pointed me toward the lockers and showers in the basement. there i found good showers with plenty of water on a timed valve, half size lockers arranged up and down, but no shelf inside. the showers need a place for towel and toiletries, but i made due with a shelf next to an opaque window. upon donning my towel and coming upstairs, the girl that translated for me took me around the club where i found very large, well appointed rooms; a nice lounge on the ground floor, a nice sauna and whirlpool area in the basement (immediately adjacent to the showers), and a very large, well appointed kino upstairs. even though it was winter, i looked for and found nothing more than a very small fenced in area outside for summertime relaxation. as explained by my guide, babylon follows the nrw procedure – you must approach girl. they will not approach you, with some exception in the downstairs hot tub. when taking a girl and room to play, a key is issued with a number and girls report number, time, and extras to front desk where each customer runs a tab, checked out and paid upon departure (bernds system). eddie, the manager, is a nice, friendly guy, very attentive to customers needs. during my stay, i found the management was truly interested in their guest’s comfort and satisfaction, even though i found that few of the girls spoke much english.

food: peas, green beans, corn, beets, fish balls soaked in vinegar (tasted as narly as it sounds), canapés (good), café machine (good). the food layout could have been good, but everything was cold by the time i was there at 19:00 hours.

pricing 50 each 30 minutes (second 30 minutes is not discounted), 25 for standard extras, anal not sure but probably available for a higher fee. about a dozen girls were present, some wearing towels, a few nude, most looking totally bored. range 5-7, one 7.5 and a 9 (cheyenne). not there from my tdl were michelle, mahe, and christina. this was apparently a slow night on a wednesday evening and the only hobbyists were me and 2 guys most of the night. there was a group of four that came in for the evening, paid most of their attention to video machines, and did not take any girls. what’s up with that?

improvements to babylon would include: go to standard nrw pricing 50+25+25, even if just for specials or a special day of the week to battle nearby competition (samya, gt, villa vertigo, living room). have the girls interact with customers more, just introducing themselves without pressure to go to the zimmer (hesse procedure). warm up the common areas more so the girls walk around without towels.

sessions - all three gfe-like

cheyenne – i saw cheyenne sitting on the couch near the entrance, across from the food bar. she was a very pretty girl, cute, nice smile, slim, tanned, 34c. she was friendly and we talked a bit about ourselves and what we liked. she informed me that she only does cbj and does not allow daty. too bad, because that is not my style and i thanked her for talking with me.

stella of germany (service 8; looks 7.5; http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=116&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1) – 5’9”, big, strong, girl with no fat, blonde short hair, pretty smile. i saw stella come out of the girl’s changing area next to the entrance desk, but i wasn’t sure if she had just started work, or had been there all the time. she seemed friendly, outgoing, and attractive, so i decided to approach her, after my introduction to cheyenne. stella was wearing a towel around her waist, but otherwise was nude in heels. as she leant over the front desk, eating her yogurt and talking with the thekefrau, i came up from behind and started a gentle massage of her back and neck, which she seemed to like, peeking over her shoulder at me and smiling. before long, the thekefrau brought some oil over to us and poured some into my hands to continue massaging stella. although spoken in german, there was a lot of kidding around between the nearby girls, the thekefrau, andh stella about the treatment i was giving stella, with the thekefrau was saying that she was next (and i would have oblidged).

before long and without saying anything, stella reached back under my towel and started playing with mambo and his growing interest, right at the front desk (now this is a much more promising start). and before long, stella also pulled her towel off and was rubbing mambo on her smooth ass, taking her time to tease, before turning around and giving me a nice dfk, with mambo peaking out of his hiding place while the girls watched. well how could i resist?

off to the zimmer upstairs, we finally found a room that was a little warmer than the rest, laying our towels down and resumed some dfk and mutual fondling. before long, stella had me on my back and began attending to mambo with her mouth. she had a nice technique, twisting her mouth as she withdrew, but not exceptionally deep, including some nice bls. while administering oral, stella applied a gummi on her fingers and started playing with my backdoor. inquiring whether it was ok, she proceeded to massage me from below while continuing her bbbj. some may find this technique unsustainable, but to me it is simply nice, not something that would bring mambo to a storming climax. after applying gummi to mambo, stella took a nice pounding in doggie and mish, followed by a satisfying cob finish onto her tits. we definitely went overtime into the second 30 minutes and with the cob finish, stella’s session cost 125 euro.


tina of hungary (service 9; looks 8; http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=112&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1), 5’7”, dark hair, deep tan, 34b. tina came into the kino behind me and stood close behind, and asked if i might be interested in her. although i wasn’t quite ready after eating some food following my session with stella, i invited her to sit with me in the kino, while the movie was playing. although anyone could walk in on us, the kino was empty. after a bit of snuggling, tina swung around and began a nice bbbj with bls, first kneeling aside of me and then kneeling between my open legs, with plenty of room on the wide kino couches, followed by some enjoyable daty. tina tasted very clean and has nice meaty lips. after a bit, tina turned around again to continue her bbbj, before rising up to for some enjoyable dfk while rubbing her body on mine, at one point grinding herself on mambo. offering a gummi, she applied it with hand and mouth, then tried to insert a somewhat uncooperative mambo, even with a try in doggie position. whether she was pretty tight, or maybe mambo was still recuperating from his thorough discharge onto stella, i cannot tell. the trooper she was, tina re-intitiated her bbbj, but one thing that was becoming increasingly irritating to mambo was her frequent use of hands, with a jack hammer motion. well, this was not really going in the right direction, i could tell, yet i couldn’t get her to slow down and take it easy. as a result, we ended the 30 minute session, total cost 50 euro.

would i repeat? well under somewhat different circumstances and recuperative time – yeah.

selina of romania (service 7.5; looks 7; http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=146&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1). after the kino session with tina, it was just after 11 pm and i decided to relax in the hot tub before leaving. i wasn’t looking to session again, since i already had been with four girls that day. sitting and relaxing for about 15 minutes, a pretty dark blonde girl came down, put her things on a table and took a shower. i thought oh well, she is just getting ready to go home. but after showering, she comes over and gets in the hot tub and sits in the jets on the other side of the tub. our feet touch and i lift her feet onto my legs, then begin giving her a foot massage. so far nice, but not committed to a session, which at that point i really didn’t think i had in myself, after the no babies performance with tina. after the foot rub, she comes over to me and starts rubbing her body on mine, taking her time and increasingly getting mambo interested after an hour or so after tina’s hack job.

selena gave nice soft dfks and was rubbing her body on mine underwater, even taking mambo between her tits, before suggesting we find a room. obviously, somewhere during this interaction, i had already committed to a session with selena, but i’m not quite sure exactly when that was – maybe somewhere between the foot rub and kiss? initially i suggested that we finish on the wide bed next to the sauna and hot tub in the basement, but selena declined, whether due to the excessive public location right next to the men’s shower, or due to the cold air, i cannot tell. no matter – we went upstairs and actually she led me to the wide bed at the back of the kino, where we continued our session. most everything went like the standard program for me with a nice soft bbbj (not deep, using hands) with bls, followed by 69, and sex in various positions, with an enjoyable cum inside selena. several times, i asked her how much time we had left, at first 14 minutes, then 10, which i though was within a very generous 30 minutes, since it was so late and selena seemed to enjoy the company. but when we finished, she indicated it was a double time session, costing 100 euro, including time in the pool. well, i really couldn’t argue, because by then it was 12:45 and most of the other girls downstairs had gone home long ago, but i had no idea of the passage of time during our session.

on checkout, the thekefrau asked for 225 euro, including the cim extra with stella. i said that i had not cim with stella. the thekefrau and eddie were going to bring out stella, but then i thought about it and with the cob finish (which may have been an extra), i didn’t think it would be worth haggling over the 25 euros.

total cost 225 euros plus 60 euro entrance.

i liked bablylon a lot (even in retrospect after visiting samya, bernds, and oase), but with a few slight modifications it could be a really nice, active club. if it were me, i’d tear out the parking lot in the back and replace it with a nice patio, small pool, and backyard sunning area. and with a modest change to the price structure, babylon could restore itself to its former heyday.

Breadman
02-25-10, 20:35
On checkout, the thekefrau asked for 225 euro, including the CIM extra with Stella. I said that I had not CIM with Stella. The thekefrau and Eddie were going to bring out Stella, but then I thought about it and with the COB finish (which may have been an extra), I didn’t think it would be worth haggling over the 25 euros.

Total cost 225 euros plus 60 euro entrance.


Your 225 doesn't add up, are you sure you didnt pay 275? 125+50+100...

If you did pay 225 then one of the girls either forgot to write down your number at the desk or decided the hot tub time was free.

Mambomike
02-25-10, 21:41
You are right. I must have paid 275.


Your 225 doesn't add up, are you sure you didnt pay 275? 125+50+100...

If you did pay 225 then one of the girls either forgot to write down your number at the desk or decided the hot tub time was free.

Australiasucks
02-28-10, 04:15
Is this place really worth visiting? I went here in 2001, it was my first FKK experience and blew me away, I went in 2007 and it turned into a dive with no girls.

Mambomike
02-28-10, 15:56
It really depends on what you are seeking. If you are looking for another Oase, World, or Palace, Babylon is not for you. If you are looking for a relaxing, comfortable FKK where you can take things at your own pace, the girls are attractive (but not 9s and 10s), and the girls deliver pretty good service, then its worth a visit. Two of my three sessions were completed in the comfortable, very open upstairs kino. If you aren't into that, the rooms are VERY spacious and nicely appointed.

I think Bablyon would improve with more activity (both girls and guys) if Eddie dropped the second 30 minute price to 25 euro, even if only for special days.



Is this place really worth visiting? I went here in 2001, it was my first FKK experience and blew me away, I went in 2007 and it turned into a dive with no girls.

Australiasucks
02-28-10, 16:42
I really loved this club back in 2001, but seeing it six years later, I went during the weekday and only 2 or 3 average looking girls. The lineup in 2001 was amazing.


The Frankfurt clubs are really not my think although World and Oase are clubs that have to be seen for their size. I like smaller and more personal clubs. A Ukrainian blonde in one club used to honey to snare me and I must have seen her about 30 times during the month I spent in Germany three years ago.

Marlow
03-09-10, 14:30
A Ukrainian blonde in one club used to honey to snare me and I must have seen her about 30 times during the month I spent in Germany three years ago.

So you exercised some restraint then.......assuming this month had 31 days in it!!!

Australiasucks
03-09-10, 20:05
No i was there during a thirty day month, and kept stopping by the same club each day.

Breadman
03-09-10, 20:37
No i was there during a thirty day month, and kept stopping by the same club each day.

So what day did you skip?

Australiasucks
03-10-10, 03:47
So what day did you skip?

Not a single day, she was a fine piece of ass and we spent sometime outside the club.

Ortos
03-10-10, 07:41
Not a single day, she was a fine piece of ass and we spent sometime outside the club.


Didn't you write all about this a couple of years ago, when you were using the "CBGBConnisur" User Name? Correct me if I am wrong: Her name was Chanel, right?

Didn't you also reveal that you had a problem with drinking too much booze and were not completely rational/responsible when you posted here?

Anyway, along with some other guys, --what's that guy's name?: I'llBeWatchingU??-- I'd like to welcome you back. I'm glad I am not on your Ignore List. Hey, I'm your biggest fan; I even put you in the Reports of Distinction! :)

Ortos

Millicent
10-16-10, 07:00
Visited the latest addition to the FKK scene in Hamburg.

http://fkk-babylon.com/

I made two mid-week visits and on the whole would give it a thumbs up. Here are some details.

It is located out of the city center, so it is nowhere near the rip-off tourist centers around Reeperbahn, but I would say it is definitely closer to the city than the older Atmos club and the 125 club. The first evening I took the S-Bahn out to Hammerbrook station and walked about 20 minutes from there. I wouldn’t say Hamburg is a dangerous city but the walk is through an industrialized area, first pass car dealerships and then past many trucking companies on Sudstrasse. Interestingly, there is an active population of street girls spaced out every 25 meters as you get within a few blocks of the club. They probably service the truck drivers. At the end of the evening the club called me a taxi and it cost 15 Euros back to the city center. On my second visit I took the S-Bahn to Berliner Tor station and a taxi from there was 7 Euros. In Hamburg I like using the S-Bahn and a day pass valid on all public transport is cheap.

Now to the club. The entrance is set back at the rear of the car park. When you walk in there is a long reception counter where you pay 65 Euros and get a robe, sandals and locker/safe key (buffet and nonalcoholic drinks included). To the side of the counter are doors to a VIP room which is where they will sell you outrageously priced champagne and have girls sit with you. Needless to say I didn’t try it. The next door takes you to the changing room and showers. All clean and well laid out. Then starts the tour of the club and my first impression was that it is huge and easy to get lost in. There is one very large main room with a bar and stools, a rarely used dance stage plus a large split level area with pool, sauna, steam and deck chairs and sports massage area (funny chalk sign outside the massage room says No Blowjobs, No Handjobs – massage only). From this one giant room lead several darkened corridors leading to what seems to be hundreds of private rooms where you can take your girl. There is also a Kino with porn movies and lounges where as soon as you sit down some of the more aggressive girls will try and convince you to have a blowjob on the spot.

My main criticism of the club is the size of that main room doesn’t lend itself to any sort of cosy ambience. When I first got there I tried the sauna, steam and shower and then wanted to sit and relax to slowly get in the mood. The problem is deciding where to sit and browse the selection of girls who tend to be spread out in little clusters around this big room. Unfortunately, midweek at least, the pole dancing stage is unused, otherwise I would have just parked there and watched the passing parade. So the choice is either sit at the bar and have girls approach you, or walk around and conspicuously check out the girls sitting around. I sort of did both.

On the plus side the club is all new and shiny and the private rooms are quite nice. The main thing of course is the quality of the girls. There was definitely a broad range of international talent. You get the feeling that there are not many girls because the size of the place makes it appear empty. The less attractive, plumper and older ones seem to stick out but probably because they are more desperate and approach you first. There are also some in the 7 to 8 range and I found an attractive, young and slim Bulgarian girl who was well endowed. Standard session price is 50 Euros all covered, with extras negotiable. For my second session I found a very attractive Hungarian girl who was an uncanny look alike for Sandra Bullock and a sense of humor as well. We chatted for quite a while before ending up in one of the private rooms. She also introduced me to an intriguing looking girl who was half Korean and half Russian. She had this habit of doing cat stretches on the balustrade between the pool area and the bar area which I told her I enjoyed watching very much. By the way, the Sandra B girl asked for 20 extra at the end of the session because of the extra time I took for DATY.

On my second visit to the club I was quite comfortable knowing my way around and felt quite relaxed just sitting at the bar waiting for the perfect girl to come by, hoping also that the cat lady would reappear. The bar girls seemed to sense that as well and would come by to proposition me, do a little lap dance and move on once it was clear that I was still looking. At one point a little blonde sat on the next stool and we chatted. The chat turned into a long conversation since she could also speak English quite well. (Word of warning, this club caters mainly to the local Germans so there is no guarantee that all the girls speak English). She turned out to be Brazilian and quite delightful to talk to and we soon got on to topics like our mutual love of DATY. She had one foot up on the bar stool to show me how smoothly shaved she was. At this point she suggested we have a little try out in the Kino and if I liked it we could move on to a room. The cat lady had not shown up, so why not. The Kino session was very stimulating but I’m not into the public sex scene much so we soon retired to a private room. My ranking of her increased from a 7 to an 8 once we go into the body to body kissing business and I just gorged myself on licking and fingering a really beautiful tight young pussy. Really a pleasure with such a cooperative girl. After our session we were still lying around and she got all chatty again telling me about life in Brazil and her family and so on. I encouraged her because it’s a lot of fun stroking a naked girl on top of you while she chats away. You have to be aware though that in this situation the taxi meter is still running, but I figured what the heck I was having fun and was going to be looking for a second session that evening anyway. My intuition paid off because after half an hour she asked if she could try and bring me back to life with a BBBJ. We ended with a wonderful 69 and BBBJTCIM. The entire session lasted one and a half hours and so I paid her 100 Euros for the 2 pops. The only sour point was when she asked for a whole lot more and I said no I only pay for the sex and not the chat sessions in between, which she grudgingly accepted and we parted.

I did run into the cat lady in the locker rooms on my way out, where she was collecting money from a customer. I said I hoped to see her again.

In conclusion, I will return to this place on the basis that the number of customers is likely to increase with time and this will in turn attract more girls. One day it might even rival the fkk scene in Frankfurt.

Australiasucks
01-09-11, 07:29
Didn't you write all about this a couple of years ago, when you were using the "CBGBConnisur" User Name? Correct me if I am wrong: Her name was Chanel, right?

Didn't you also reveal that you had a problem with drinking too much booze and were not completely rational / responsible when you posted here?

Anyway, along with some other guys,.what's that guy's name? : I'llBeWatchingU- I'd like to welcome you back. I'm glad I am not on your Ignore List. Hey, I'm your biggest fan; I even put you in the Reports of Distinction! .

OrtosI recently went here during a trip to Germany in December, the "Chanel" working here is a different woman, the one here is in her 20s. The Chanel I met during 2001 would be 34 today.

Plover 23
01-20-11, 21:42
I am considering a visit to Babylon in the next few weeks.

I am attracted by the belief that it is a true FKK at Cologne prices: but concerned with a few reports that suggest that girls may be a little sharp with the upselling.

Does anyone have any recent experiences?

Thanks,

PL

Boomer10
01-21-11, 02:02
I am considering a visit to Babylon in the next few weeks.

I am attracted by the belief that it is a true FKK at Cologne prices: but concerned with a few reports that suggest that girls may be a little sharp with the upselling.

Does anyone have any recent experiences?

Thanks,

PLI haven't visited in the last year or so, but I see that Laura (DE) is back. My visits with her didn't include any upselling.

Breadman
01-21-11, 19:51
I am attracted by the belief that it is a true FKK at Cologne prices:What do you mean by Cologne prices? As in the second half hour is 25, cim 25 etc? If so, from what I've heard they operate on the higher Frankfurt prices. But that was years ago from Jackyo.

Plover 23
01-21-11, 22:37
What do you mean by Cologne prices? As in the second half hour is 25, cim 25 etc? If so, from what I've heard they operate on the higher Frankfurt prices. But that was years ago from Jackyo.Sorry, I should have been explicit. I have used the phrase "Cologne prices" in a number of reports, including for PSR, and Planet. In my view Cologne tends to have a price point between Dusseldorf and Hessen, as follows.

I know this is not universal, but in general I would categorise:

Dusseldorf / general NRW prices as €50 first half hour, €25 second half hour, €25 most extras excepting anal.

Cologne prices as €50 first and every half hour, €25 most extras etc.

Hessen and BW / Bayern prices €50 first and every hour, €50 most extras etc.

As I say this is a generalisation, but I have not met this interim price point formally except around Cologne. Mind you, as we have all discovered to our annoyance, there are plenty of girls at GT who seem keen to adopt what I have called the Cologne pricing model.

Have Fun,

PL

Woof Woof
01-21-11, 22:54
Sorry, I should have been explicit. I have used the phrase "Cologne prices" in a number of reports, including for PSR, and Planet. In my view Cologne tends to have a price point between Dusseldorf and Hessen, as follows.

I know this is not universal, but in general I would categorise:

Dusseldorf / general NRW prices as €50 first half hour, €25 second half hour, €25 most extras excepting anal.

Cologne prices as €50 first and every half hour, €25 most extras etc.

Hessen and BW / Bayern prices €50 first and every hour, €50 most extras etc.

As I say this is a generalisation, but I have not met this interim price point formally except around Cologne. Mind you, as we have all discovered to our annoyance, there are plenty of girls at GT who seem keen to adopt what I have called the Cologne pricing model.

Have Fun,

PLPL,

I would beg to differ on your description of Koln FKK price point as being between DUS and Hessen. I buy the geography part but not the pricing scheme! Koln prices are the same as DUS FKK, e.g. 50+25 then 50+25 per additional hour. That's the standard at Samya and PSR. There are some exceptions at GT and VV where a few girls who know they are in high demand ask for 100 / hr but that is in principle against house rules.

Cheers,
WW

Plover 23
01-21-11, 23:01
PL,

I would beg to differ on your description of Koln FKK price point as being between DUS and Hessen. I buy the geography part but not the pricing scheme! Koln prices are the same as DUS FKK, e. G. 50+25 then 50+25 per additional hour. That's the standard at Samya and PSR. There are some exceptions at GT and VV where a few girls who know they are in high demand ask for 100 / hr but that is in principle against house rules.

Cheers,

WWPSR is €50 per half hour.

Breadman
01-22-11, 21:07
I know this is not universal, but in general I would categorise:

Dusseldorf / general NRW prices as €50 first half hour, €25 second half hour, €25 most extras excepting anal.

Cologne prices as €50 first and every half hour, €25 most extras etc. I'm stumped. I've never been to a club in Cologne that charged 50 for every half hour and then 25 for cim. Never. Can you tell me what clubs in Cologne do this? Or are you trying to come up with a term to describe what some girls at GT might try to charge?

Here's what I know:

Samya is 50+25 for an hour. 25 for cim.

Bernds is 50+50 with cim free.

PSR. Never been there, don't plan on going anytime soon.

Planet. Never been there, plan on trying it out. Expect to pay 50+50 since its owned by the World crue.

Finca. 50+50 and 50 for cim. 100 for anal.

Babylon. Never been there but heard its 50+50, not sure about cim or anal.

Some forum's have poll functions. This would be an interesting poll to see how many guys out there would pay 50 for the second half hour if the girl told them after the fact that she charged 50 instead of 25 (if your at a club that normally only charges 25 for the second half hour). How many would take it to the front desk, how many would exchange the 25 for a 50.

Toscana
01-23-11, 19:47
Yes, I can concur with Breadman's prices.

At Samya the rule seems to be 50-25-back to 50-25, and so on. Was told this by several girls.

Of course, Finca's not NRW or Hessen.

Breadman
07-28-11, 01:42
Yes, I can concur with Breadman's prices.

At Samya the rule seems to be 50-25-back to 50-25, and so on. Was told this by several girls.

Of course, Finca's not NRW or Hessen.Doing some research for my next trip and ran across their website. I'll be in that area so figured I'd take a look at the club layout, unfortunately they don't have club photo's on their website. Looks like they have them on their own personal forum, little that helps when tourists are looking into their club. What is nice is their 'free 10 minute' deal. If you don't like what you see, you get a refund.

Also ran across an 'extra's' section but can't make out what exactly is extra. Can someone translate?


Extras werden von den Damen wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.

Gooroox
07-28-11, 09:23
Doing some research for my next trip and ran across their website. I'll be in that area so figured I'd take a look at the club layout, unfortunately they don't have club photo's on their website. Looks like they have them on their own personal forum, little that helps when tourists are looking into their club. What is nice is their 'free 10 minute' deal. If you don't like what you see, you get a refund.

Also ran across an 'extra's' section but can't make out what exactly is extra. Can someone translate?

Extras werden von den Damen wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.Anal +50, Cum in mouth +25, Swallow +50, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) +25

Breadman
07-28-11, 19:19
Cum in mouth +25, Swallow +50
Don't think i've ever run across this type of charge before. Usually its up to the girl to spit it out or swallow the cum if you opt for cim. Not sure how you'd tell the girl whether to spit or to swallow.

Nille Copenhagen
07-28-11, 19:24
Anal +50, Cum in mouth +25, Swallow +50, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) +25Some girls swallow for free.

She [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on you or you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on her?

Jymondor
11-12-11, 01:23
Going there tomorrow (Saturday) , but Planet is even closer. Any suggestions, updates, anything I need to know?

Breadman
12-29-11, 15:42
Reading reports from Atmos that BBBJ is 20 euro's extra, was wondering if this was also true in Babylon?

Vompat
01-03-12, 07:28
Reading reports from Atmos that BBBJ is 20 euro's extra, was wondering if this was also true in Babylon?Yes, it is the same thing.

Jymondor
01-03-12, 15:29
Yes, it is the same thing.What Babylon you are talking about? Babylon in Hamburg, or Babylon in Elsdorf near Köln?

Nille Copenhagen
01-03-12, 15:59
What Babylon you are talking about? Babylon in Hamburg, or Babylon in Elsdorf near Köln?I think he refer to Babylon in Hamburg,

Any update lately from Babylon in Hamburg.

Last time I when there the line-up and numbers of girls was bad, only 8-10 girls.

London Traveller
08-14-12, 20:31
Looking at the origins of this thread it is about the NRW Babylon.

I have been lucky enough to win a free entry ticket to the club. Is it worth going?

Anyone got any reports?

Ortos
08-14-12, 21:35
Looking at the origins of this thread it is about the NRW Babylon.

I have been lucky enough to win a free entry ticket to the club. Is it worth going?

Anyone got any reports?I myself have not been there, but if I were to think creatively on the question of which new NRW club to try, I would place Elsdorf-Babylon on the top of my list.

For whatever reason (s) , reports about this club on ISG seem to be rare. By contrast another board that is generally weaker than ISG on FKK reports, seems to be the best source about Babylon in English: ignatzmice. com does offer some rather extensive and articulate reports from a Belgian guy named Gaston. Check threads over the past two years.

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Yakob
08-15-12, 00:05
Looking at the origins of this thread it is about the NRW Babylon.

I have been lucky enough to win a free entry ticket to the club. Is it worth going?

Anyone got any reports?LT,

I have been once to Babylon and I would not return again. The manager / owner is a friendly guy. Happy to chat to the guests since if I recall correctly he used to a customer himself until he went into business doing what he enjoyed. The club has everything, sauna, jacuzzi pool, large kino room playing porn movies, buffet food side bar, drinks bar (served by a working girl who is available), a small garden and a courtyard. Rooms a nice. It is really a large house in suburbia converted into a brothel. The girls were friendly but did not push or approach in a pressured way. You can see on the Babylon website pictures of the girls that they have in their line up. If you are used to the extensive line ups of Oase and Golden Time then Babylon may be a let down. YMMV.

London Traveller
08-15-12, 18:07
LT,

I have been once to Babylon and I would not return again. The manager / owner is a friendly guy. Happy to chat to the guests since if I recall correctly he used to a customer himself until he went into business doing what he enjoyed. The club has everything, sauna, jacuzzi pool, large kino room playing porn movies, buffet food side bar, drinks bar (served by a working girl who is available) , a small garden and a courtyard. Rooms a nice. It is really a large house in suburbia converted into a brothel. The girls were friendly but did not push or approach in a pressured way. You can see on the Babylon website pictures of the girls that they have in their line up. If you are used to the extensive line ups of Oase and Golden Time then Babylon may be a let down. YMMV.Yakob,

You have painted a rather appealing portrait of the place. Why wouldn't you return?

LT

Yakob
08-15-12, 21:58
Yakob,

You have painted a rather appealing portrait of the place. Why wouldn't you return?

LTIf you like what has been described then you should go visit. Each person is different. Babylon's line up did not work for me. YMMV.

Maxime
08-17-12, 07:41
Did visit Babylon several times, and it is a small but precious club IMHO. In NRW I would prefer it over the big clubs (GT / LR / PHG / VV / etc) because it is one of the few clubs in NRW that are known for high service level of the girls (together with Schieferhof, Freude and Residenz). The presence & service list on their website is very accurate, and, like Freude and Schieferhof, explicite foreplay in the living room is considered normal. Pity they don't have a garden, so with this weather ( 30 celsius) you better go to the bigger clubs in Hessen.

Jymondor
09-02-12, 16:49
Is wi-fi available for the customersatBabylon (Elsdorf)?

Free Dude
09-02-12, 21:17
I doubt wifi is available, was there Friday and didn't see anyone with phones, tablets or laptops. The fact it's all Hessen dress. Unlike the clubs in Hessen. Also means there is no place to keep you phone. Great club BTW, sort of a Bernds with younger girls. The pics on the site aren't very flattering in my opinion. Arielle was awesome (27 years old, but looks 20. So you are fucking a 20 year old that knows what she is doing) , only to be overshadowed with the best girl in the house: Alexa. I think I was lucky she wasn't booked up with regulars. Beautiful Katharina would have been more than ok on most days, but can't compare to the other two.

BigBuddy69
09-03-12, 19:28
I had a good time in Babylon last Tuesday. At first I came for Blanche and Elli, but Blanche stopped working in Babylon a few weeks ago. Had some problems with the buses so I had to walk through Elsdorf. In the hall, I was greeted by a bunch of hot naked ladies (including Lori, Kathrina and Tania) and Elsa showed me the place.

I choosed her for my first round (1h) , and after some deep kisses on the couch we went in a room. The girl does everything good, she's hot but she's faking too much : "du bist so gut baby" "your cock is so good" every 30 seconds. Deep french kisses, BBBJ, many positions but I wasn't excited enough so I didn't cum. After some rest, Lori proposed to suck me in public, I declined and I started chatting with Katharina (27 yo, classy face, tanned, little but beautiful boobs, long black hair, thin, perfect legs) and we went to a room behind the kino for 1 hour.

Her kisses are a little short for my taste but she likes to play with her tongue. She doesn't like her face to be caressed. Good BBBJ, sweet sex in many positions (had some problems in cowgirl because I was "too big" for her as she said) , made me cum in her hand. Really beautiful lady! Spend some time looking at the ladies (chatting with each other) : Sabrina, great body, great abs but her nose is a little too long, Mona Lisa, chubby but hot, Jeannette, too much tatoos, Genny, cute, Adriana, perfect body but has the face of a 14 yo (she spent a long time sleeping in the kino). Unfortunately Tania (hot 35 yo blonde german) left. I met some french speaking belgian guys and too fellow "youppienautes" from France who gave me good advices about the Babylon (we had the same thoughts about Elsa). They introduced me to Eddy, the Cheffe.

I had talked to Elli before while she was playing the jackpot machine, and she sat next to me, finally smiling, and proposed me to go a room (1h). The girl is perfect looking (her skin is darker than on the website, she had no blue lenses, and has now flower tatoos) and she's ultra-GFE. Deep and long kisses (unfortunately I could taste the last cigarette) , BBBJ, and sweet sex in many positions (she asked me to go slowly). Finished in her hand. I got back to my new french friends, they advised me to go with Alexa or Lori but I was a little tired. Adriana, Delia and Arielle made a great show on the pole (Delia has some massive natural boobs, but sagging and Arielle has great abs, maybe a little too thin).

Naomi was trying to seduce me (in a friendly manner, not aggressive) but I'm not really into black girls. While I was waiting for my new french friend to finish his session with Mona Lisa (he had kindly agreed to take me back to Cologne) , I was sitting on a stool between Arielle and Naomi, Naomi was massaging my neck and Arielle had her great legs on my lap. I declined their approaches but they stayed very friendly. Then my friend came back and we left at about 11 pm, with a kiss from Katharina and Elsa (Elli had left before).

So I had a good time in Babylon, the place is nice, the girls are hot even if they lack in numbers, they offer a good service, the boss is funny, maybe it was a little too calm this day. Too bad that the trip back to Cologne is uneasy with the public transportation.

Forcharles
09-06-12, 06:30
Is wi-fi available for the customersatBabylon (Elsdorf)?I've taken my laptop into Babylon and used its Wifi to check my email. You have to ask for the password.

Jymondor
09-09-12, 23:20
Babylon was in my to-do list for a couple of years. But always I changed my planes last moment. In most of cases for Samya, that is one of my favorites.

I booked Ibis-Budget (Ex-ETAP) in Duren. So if I don't like it Samya is not far away and Planet could be as a back-up.

I arrived at about 5:00 PM on Thursday. I cannot say anything about public transportation because I always rent a car. Thekefray was friendly with basic English. But hearing my accent she asked whether I speak Russian or not. I do, so we switch to Russian. She called Ariel to show me around.

It is a small club. Because it is described well I will not sharp my attention. When I enter to main room I count about 12 girls. As per website 18 girls were on duty, so it seems right. Lineup is far below than Acapulco, where I spent day before. But it still FKK standard. No 9-10ts but no uglies as well. All girls were naked. Very cozy and friendly atmosphere. Plenty of food. Regrettably food is served once and get cold after a while.

Animation allowed but girls are not pushy at all. Because of good weather and lots of seats at the yard it was no problems with sitting places. But I assume at winter time it might be a problem.

First day three girls. All of them listed on their website: Naomi, Ina, Laura.

After DFK Naomi proposed DATY, and I understand why. After 5 minutes of DATY she naturally squirted. She was even proud of that. This is first time I saw the girl who squirts from DATY only without any finger clit stimulation.

All three session were OK. I wouldn't say that service was excellent as described here and on German forums. I would say all three girls were diligent, but BBBJ and other skills were just average or a bit above average.

Because of wi-fi available time between sessions was not boring. Girls did not disturb me while I was with my tablet, but smiled and approached is I put my tablet away. It was so comfortable so I decided to stay there two more days.

But Friday was a bit disappointing. About 15 girls and 20 men were there when I arrived. But at about 7:00 PM it was increased to 25 gazelles and 35-40 polar bears. This is already crowd for such a small place even including garden. I arrived at 3:00 PM and managed two sessions. Jeanette (MILF with excellent body) and very slim Ariel.

At about 8:00 PM I put my tablet back and went to the hunt. No girls I who attracts my attention paying any interest to me. Few girls sit bored and made me looks and smiles, but none of them were of my type. I approached Alexa, she smiling excuses that she is with the man he is just walk away for the second. After I approached Cecilla. Same shit. My last try was with the girl I even don't get a chance to ask he name. She kissed me and said that she already promised zimmer to her permanent customer.

Well. I was not hungry for sex. There sessions in Sharks, three in Aca, three here a day before, and two today looks like enough. But I went out there a bit upset.

But no complains. This is local club, and local returning guys are more valuable for the girls and strangers. I can understand that. But definitively do not repeat third day in line.

In general. I could recommend that club under certain conditions:

1. You are not optichkfikers, You are OK with nice looking girls but not models

2. Don't go the Fri and Sat.

3. I am not sure what to do there in winter time.

Will I return? "Yes" is more likely than "no" if weather is good.

Next day I spent in Planet Eden (Duren) and was positively surprised.

Banana Boi
12-31-12, 16:02
Got to love this. Any other smaller FKK's offer something similar?


Admission.

10 minutes get a whiff. Free

Dorfman
08-08-13, 17:38
I know and I practise this girl for more than two years, Golden Time and Living room, and now Babylon. And her service degrades without going back up. Not well for the club. So why? In the beginning at GT, Eugenia was a charming novice Rumanian girl of 23 or 24 why. And I had often well enjoyed with her even if she had no level of a porn-star. I was sometimes left unsatisfied because she did not make all that I wanted but I took some pleasure to corrupt the young lady and learn her vicious life, she's called Eva now. I rented her when she had just arrived in Babylon, and I wanted to check her a new time (50 euros for 30 mn). I found that she was tired and not concentrated, her activity became commonplace and without excitement. Problem in this club? I observed it with other customers that she took in room not only this day and who, after ask, were not really satisfied as she does "like a robot". We really feel that she forces to smile, speak and to work. I am sure that she does not like sex and should think of change of job. Girl's kind which becomes a bad pro in time, interested only in the money, and which loses her freshness and spontaneity. Too bad.

Wolvenvacht
08-25-13, 21:17
I visited FKK Babylon last Friday afternoon.

It was nice weather and about 15 girls were available. Not that many mongers were there, I think at any time there were less men than women, although around dinner time some more men came in.

There was a fair choice of women, most of them East Europeans I gather and one African girl, Katja.

I heard her speak French to someone, so once she was free, I sat next to her and had a nice chat with her in French. She has quite a bubbly attitude and she slowly but surely became more intimate, not rushing things but touching here and there and allowing to be touched as well. When she noticed the little wolf was reacting to her touches she suggested we go to a room. I happily obliged. Once in the room, we hugged and DFK-ed a lot. She is a great kisser and she has very smooth skin. Her breasts are A-size but firm and her nipples just beg to be licked and sucked. It was a delight to lick my way down from her breasts to her shaven pussy. I gave that pussy a good fingering and licking and she gave all the signs of cumming. Then it was her turn to take care of me. More kissing, licking of my nipples (which excites me very much) and a sweet hand-job finished the first round. Cleaning up and we rested in each others arms until little wolf stirred again. This time I got to sample her pussy in the proper way: tight, hot and wet, my dick just slid in and out in a most delicious way until I came in missionary. Just the sight of her dark pussy lips around my dick took all effort not to come on the spot. Timing is everything and I finished just before the hour was over.

Then I took some rest, visiting the sauna and jacuzzi, reading a book, watching the comings and goings and I had some dinner. To finish my visit of FKK Babylon, I scheduled another 30 minutes with Katja, this time enjoying her considerable skills of fellatio ("Je suis la reine du fellation" she told me and indeed that is not exaggerated: deep, wet and not forgetting your balls, I had to ask her to stop or I would have cum in her mouth) and then I suited up and fucked her in doggy style. She builds up a good rhythm and I played with her tits while my dick went deeply into her sweet and wet pussy. For the third time she made me cum, surprising even myself. Thank you Katja, it was a most nice experience and I profoundly enjoyed this afternoon with you at FKK Babylon.

Maxime
08-26-13, 21:21
It was nice weather and about 15 girls were available. Not that many mongers were there, I think at any time there were less men than women, although around dinner time some more men came in.

There was a fair choice of women, most of them East Europeans I gather and one African girl, Katja.Pity we did not meet up, I was there too at the same time.

Indeed enough girls for the mongers present, but I found the quality of the line-up not so great. Only Kitty, Monica, Katja, and few others rate "good" or better, but (too) many new girls that can NOT cope with the normally so high service standard in Babylon (Diana, Paula, Eva, Sascha, Sandra, etc).

Let's hope the line-up gets better coming weeks.

Burma Jones
09-05-13, 17:50
Would someone please explain where the club's private parking is? I went by the club once and rode up and down the block looking for the proper place to park. I almost parked across the street but it appeared that parking was set aside for some apartments and a playground. The website says to use the rear entrance and that private parking is on the street behind the club. Does this mean that you enter the driveway of the club and park behind the building or is there an actual street behind the club to park on? I seem to remember houses running along the back of the club.

Free Dude
09-05-13, 18:38
Would someone please explain where the club's private parking is? I went by the club once and rode up and down the block looking for the proper place to park. I almost parked across the street but it appeared that parking was set aside for some apartments and a playground. The website says to use the rear entrance and that private parking is on the street behind the club. Does this mean that you enter the driveway of the club and park behind the building or is there an actual street behind the club to park on? I seem to remember houses running along the back of the club.Yep, behind the building.

Maxime
09-06-13, 07:50
Yep, behind the building.And the entrance to this parking is on the left side of the building (when you stand in front of it) , sometimes cars are blocking this entrance, but normally you could you drive through the gate.

Banana Boi
09-22-13, 21:23
My goal for the day was to visit 3 new clubs, Sixsens, Babylon, and PSR. Arrived at Babylon around 7 pm. I believe the club closes around midnight so 7-8 pm should be prime time for the club. When I drove up to what looked more like an average sized house then a club, I was hesitant to go in. I found the parking lot and saw there were about 5 cars so I said I'm here so let's TOFTT and try the place out.

You get a warm greeting when you arrive when all the girls come running to the door to greet you. I didn't see anything I liked but I'm too nice a guy to just walk right back out and always too optimistic a person hoping to find a gem. You pay 50 euro and are told that you pay the club and not the girl. Control. There were 15 girls or so but none had the package I was looking for. There was one girl with a case on her hand I would have tried but she was with a Dutch guy the entire time. The only available girl I considered just to say I had a session at Babylon was Paula http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-koeln/257.php. She just seemed like fun dancing on the pole and many times I select the girl who seems to be the most fun in the club.

This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.

Yakob
09-24-13, 00:35
This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.Banana Boi,

I wrote a Babylon report the day before your visit report. Somehow the report I wrote did not get posted onto the forum.

But you found out anyway what the line out at Babylon is like. None or few of the beauties that you seek.

Yakob
09-24-13, 00:43
I visited FKK Babylon last Friday afternoon.

I heard her speak French to someone, so once she was free, I sat next to her and had a nice chat with her in French.

Then I took some rest, visiting the sauna and jacuzzi, reading a book, watching the comings and goings and I had some dinner. To finish my visit of FKK Babylon, I scheduled another 30 minutes with Katja, this time enjoying her considerable skills of fellatio ("Je suis la reine du fellation" she told me and indeed that is not exaggerated: deep, wet and not forgetting your balls, I had to ask her to stop or I would have cum in her mouth) and then I suited up and fucked her in doggy style. She builds up a good rhythm and I played with her tits while my dick went deeply into her sweet and wet pussy. For the third time she made me cum, surprising even myself. Thank you Katja, it was a most nice experience and I profoundly enjoyed this afternoon with you at FKK Babylon.Wolvenvacht,

You may find that Babylon has a preponderance of French speakers because of the location of Babylon close to the French border and Babylon is frequented by many French speakers. It also helps a lot that the owner of Babylon is a French speaking Belgian guy who used to be a monger himself.

I am glad that you found women to your tastes at Babylon. There are some good service providers here but I need the optical looks too I am sorry.

For me, Babylon as attested already by Banana Boi may lack the lovelies but then it seems there are others who find what they want at Babylon. Vive le difference.

Maxime
09-24-13, 19:13
The only available girl I considered just to say I had a session at Babylon was Paula.

http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-koeln/257.php

She just seemed like fun dancing on the pole and many times I select the girl who seems to be the most fun in the club.

This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.Jammer, interesting to know which day you was there, because Babylon is known for its good lineup normally.

And even more interesting: Paula looks nice, but is one of the worst regarding service on the room (very egocentric, and not customer focused).

How was PSR and Sixxens?

Jymondor
09-24-13, 20:23
This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.WTF? I haven't been in Babylon for 9 months. But I cannot believe that such negative changes could happen. I looked into list of "answened" girls on their website. I noted that a couple of well known girls disappear but in general I see the same faces. Babylon team is pretty steady. Maybe you were in bad mood?

Simex
09-24-13, 21:17
Banana Boi

Any info on Six Sense?


My goal for the day was to visit 3 new clubs, Sixsens, Babylon, and PSR. Arrived at Babylon around 7 pm. I believe the club closes around midnight so 7-8 pm should be prime time for the club. When I drove up to what looked more like an average sized house then a club, I was hesitant to go in. I found the parking lot and saw there were about 5 cars so I said I'm here so let's TOFTT and try the place out.

You get a warm greeting when you arrive when all the girls come running to the door to greet you. I didn't see anything I liked but I'm too nice a guy to just walk right back out and always too optimistic a person hoping to find a gem. You pay 50 euro and are told that you pay the club and not the girl. Control. There were 15 girls or so but none had the package I was looking for. There was one girl with a case on her hand I would have tried but she was with a Dutch guy the entire time. The only available girl I considered just to say I had a session at Babylon was Paula.

http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/saunaclub-koeln/257.php

She just seemed like fun dancing on the pole and many times I select the girl who seems to be the most fun in the club.

This was the poorest FKK lineup I have ever seen. I would even put the Penelope lineup ahead of Babylon.

Banana Boi
09-24-13, 22:52
Banana Boi

Any info on Six Sense?I was going to do a write up in the "Netherlands. German border" thread. In short it's definitely a club that is worth visiting. It's a nice place with decent food. I was there on a weekday afternoon and there were about 30 girls. It's hard to tell cause the club is large and on multiple levels. There are a ton of stairs! There were girls from Oase there but I don't know their names. You won't find many teeny's like you do at PHG. Most girls are closer to 30 than 20. What Sixsens has is a little Hungarian spinner named Nora who is worth the visit all on her own.

Sixsens is worth a visit and I will return for sure. Problem is there is no "big" club near it. The closest would be GT, DV, or Samya, all about 80-90 km away.

Simex
09-24-13, 23:00
BB.

Is it 50 + 50.


The place looks really cool - I can see lots of stairs:

http://vimeo.com/52490231

From the site:

RECEPTION
As a guest you are most welcome at Sixsens

At de reception the gentlemen pay 40,- euro entrance fee for a day pass between the times 11:00 and 14:00h.
After 14:00h the entrance fee for a day pass will be 55,- euro.

The ladies pay an entrance fee of 25,- euro for a day pass between the times 11:00 and 14:00h.
After 14:00h the entrance fee for a day pass will be 40,- euro.

Included in the day pass are, a bathrobe, bath slippers, towels and a locker.

You can make use of the restaurant and bar including all kinds of soft drinks, coffee and beer freely.
Of course you also have unlimited use of the wellness & relax area and internet via wifi.



I was going to do a write up in the "Netherlands. German border" thread. In short it's definitely a club that is worth visiting. It's a nice place with decent food. I was there on a weekday afternoon and there were about 30 girls. It's hard to tell cause the club is large and on multiple levels. There are a ton of stairs! There were girls from Oase there but I don't know their names. You won't find many teeny's like you do at PHG. Most girls are closer to 30 than 20. What Sixsens has is a little Hungarian spinner named Nora who is worth the visit all on her own.

Sixsens is worth a visit and I will return for sure. Problem is there is no "big" club near it. The closest would be GT, DV, or Samya, all about 80-90 km away.

Banana Boi
09-24-13, 23:05
BB.

Is it 50 + 50.

And 60 entry?Http://www.sixsens.eu/index.php/reception-3/?lang=en

55 entry. There is a happy hour special before 2 pm for 40 euro.

I only did 30 min session here so not sure if 2nd 30 min is 25 or 50.

The locker system is really cool here. You choose any locker you want and swipe your bracelet until it locks.

Don't go here expecting eye candy like when you first walk in to DV. Think more like YY.

Simex
09-24-13, 23:54
Thanks Pal. I quite like YY. There's always enough eye candy for me.

Do they have private Jacuzzi room you can hire?

"It's all about the Timing" Simex.


Http://www.sixsens.eu/index.php/reception-3/?lang=en

55 entry. There is a happy hour special before 2 pm for 40 euro.

I only did 30 min session here so not sure if 2nd 30 min is 25 or 50.

The locker system is really cool here. You choose any locker you want and swipe your bracelet until it locks.

Don't go here expecting eye candy like when you first walk in to DV. Think more like YY.

Banana Boi
09-25-13, 02:47
Thanks Pal. I quite like YY. There's always enough eye candy for me.

Do they have private Jacuzzi room you can hire?Wait, I didn't like YY if you recall. I meant don't expect a lot. LOL.

Don't know about VIP rooms. The room I went to with Nora was on the 4th floor and had a shower.

Banana Boi
09-25-13, 04:41
TA, I saw you're planning on going to Sixsens this week. Just wanted to give you the heads up that the main street through Aachen is closed off for about 2-3 blocks so you will have to go up the hill through some residential housing for 4 or 5 blocks, look for a street that looks big enough to pass the construction, and come back down.

Simex, clear your inbox you're too popular! lol

Dorfman
09-28-13, 09:37
Saturday. 14 sept. Return in Babylon. The club is small but welcoming. It is true that there are many French speakers and Belgians. The closeness of the border with Belgium is for many there.

The casting of the girls is rather good: some blacks, some Hungarians, and naturally many of Rumanian.

My first choice will be Alice has tall chorus girl brunette of 22 why. Old who has tattoes. Very nice face. A good and entire blow job. Very GFE and very PSE at the same time. I was able to put my fingers in her pussy. Her blowjob is a delight with her tongue as a licking snake. And when she puts the finger in my bottom, I began explode of pleasure. We do it in all the positions including standup, my favourite position, just in front of the big mirror of the room behind gambling machines. I enjoyed in her mouth for a 25-euro supplement and I am sure that she kept some sperm in her mouth. An excellent partner and I shall return for her.

Of return in the big room, I cross the girl Eva who had disappointed a lot last time. To see comment of 08/08/13. She recognizes me and tries to convince me for a new session! This girl is incredible, with now her small misleading face and slim body. More little, more swindle. I answer her politely but firmly that she is not up to it and that I don't want to take some risk to go back up in room with her, seen her too bad service last time. She leaves me dissatisfied silently, impolite and hurt. A girl I know since several years but now out. Bad advertising for the club! Two customers heard us and they confirmed me that certain girls had no good reputation as this Eva, a bad number.

My second choice is called Maya, a nice maid who has good rating on website and forums. Also a maid fucking of good level. We kiss each other on the white sofa during at least ten minutes and she will give me even a blowjob voucher in front of everybody. Really the good beginning. Then the room where I fuck her during one hour (100 euros) with supplement of cum-in-mouth. Session GFE, with long kisses as I like. And this girl is very active and can many dirty things to make with a man. The doggy was fantastic, she moves her ass very strongly. With her, I enjoyed well while taking advantage of a good discussion. It is girls as her that I like. Classic and high level. The club is very clean. It is important. And we drink it some very good beer.

Polyamorist
10-13-13, 21:32
My first choice will be Alice has tall chorus girl brunette of 22 why. Old who has tattoes. Very nice face.A word of caution. The performance of Alice is highly variable. She can act really sweet, but before you go with her, watch the faces of guys who come out of the room with her. You will see many sad-faced suckers.

Elli is more reliable, though more PSE than GFE. What a pneumatic body!

This is a relatively well-managed club, though I think the Belgian owner is a bit soft on some of the prettier girls who are allowed to get away with a lot of rudeness while putting on phony happy faces.

Polyamorist
10-27-13, 20:50
Update: Babylon has gone seriously downhill since the summer. There were some nice girls then, but they have all been driven away or cowed by some new arrivals, a gang of "Heathers" (you've seen the movie?) The owner is not there enough to keep control, and the female managers are spineless, so the Heathers basically run the club now, and through calculated bullying of the other girls guarantee a poor level of service for the guys who visit. Admittedly there's still lots of customers around on a Saturday: basically the guys wait around, tongues hanging out, hoping to be picked by one of the small number of prettier girls. I think it should be the other way round, but call me old-fashioned.

Whether this club can recover from its current slump remains to be seen. It will take a lot of turnover unfortunately, and I am not going to wait for that.

Gratass65
04-04-14, 19:44
Planning trip to Hamburg Sunday late evening. Hope to spend 2-3 hours at a ok Fkk club. Is Babylon an alternative or is it better to go direct to Atmos ? Live at a hotel near by Hauptbahnhof.

Monday evening will be Atmos

Ortos
04-04-14, 20:32
Planning trip to Hamburg Sunday late evening. Hope to spend 2-3 hours at a ok Fkk club. Is Babylon an alternative or is it better to go direct to Atmos? Live at a hotel near by Hauptbahnhof.

Monday evening will be AtmosI think you are posting in the wrong thread. This is FKK Babylon in Elsdorf, outside Koeln, unless I am making some massive mistake.

I think there is no separate thread for the club Babylon in Hamburg area.

It's funny, we often lament different girls in one club who go by the same name: Now there maybe confusion about different clubs bearing the same name.

Gratass65
04-04-14, 23:24
I think you are posting in the wrong thread. This is FKK Babylon in Elsdorf, outside Koeln, unless I am making some massive mistake.

I think there is no separate thread for the club Babylon in Hamburg area.

It's funny, we often lament different girls in one club who go by the same name: Now there maybe confusion about different clubs bearing the same name.Ok, thanks for the information

Tommyseville
05-07-14, 05:53
TR Saunaclub Babylon, Elsdorf NRW Germany mid March 2014.

Oststraße 12, 50189 Elsdorf, Germany.

+49 2274 905588.

http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com

Google map link: http://goo.gl/maps/v511i

Third club of a multiday tour:

Golden Time, Brüggen.

Living Room, Kaarst.

Babylon, Elsdorf.

Mondial, Köln.

Bernds, Hennef (Lichtenberg)

* * *

Sunday afternoon, mid-March 2014.

I had been interested in Babylon after seeing it recommended for high service levels-but with younger girls than the older crew at Bernds. Folks on message boards, including Free Dude here, included it in a shortlist with Neby and Freude, and I had liked those places, so I was hoping for a club in the same mold.

As it turned out Babylon was quite good; the lineup was sufficient for my tastes and the service levels were up there with the aforementioned clubs.

GETTING THERE.

I thought Babylon was in a kind of a strange location out in the western hinterlands of Köln. My GPS took me out to a seemingly rural area suited more for crops than copulation clubs. I suppose that's how many of these places have to be-under the radar enough in their neighbourhood to not elicit trouble from neighbours.

I parked behind the building and walked around to the front. The place looked like it could have been a former storefront, a car parts store or something like that. Buzzed in and met the mamasan at the small entry counter.

From the counter I saw a gaggle of naked girls, about 6 or so, eating fried eggs and bacon. The thekefrau had me pay my entry fee of 50€ and asked for my name, writing "Tommy" down on a white index card kept in a box. I later learned that this would be used to record sessions and extras, and I would pay the tally upon departing. Babylon is notable that you can get a free 10 minute look around before you have to commit to paying your entry fee, but I saw enough to figure I would be fine for the day.

TOUR.

The thekefrau called over to one of the blondes, Diana (pronounced "Dee-Anna") , to give me a tour. Diana walked me upstairs to show me a kino showing porn on a wall-mount flat screen TV, a couple of gambling machines, some fuckrooms and a small house-style bathroom with the shower head removed from the stall. Diana then led me downstairs where there was 2 saunas, access to the backyard, a massage area that I realized was actually numbered as two semipublic fuckrooms, and a small locker area, leaving me to change into Hessen dress-just a towel with nothing else on.

I went back upstairs to the main level and took a look at the food selection-there were a number of sorry-looking hors the'oeuvre in the refrigerated case, and the remnants of eggs and bacon on the other side of the room, where the gaggle of naked girls were sitting earlier around a counter-height dining table. I helped myself to some rolls and the rest of the bacon, and sat at the bar to eat. There was just one other guy there with me at the time, an older German fellow who was friendly and tried to make some small talk in English. Next to the bar is a livingroom-sized lounge with couches against the wall and a big padded platform in the center. By afternoon this area would be fairly full with about 10 girls, but early in the day was empty. I gathered that some girls would be in the room already with guys coming by for a quick noontime session.

The German fellow staked a claim on a great stool at the end of the bar where he could survey the food area, entry counter, and the living room lounge to his right. I sat next to him on the other side of the bar corner, next to the sole black girl, Valerie from Cameroon. Valerie was fun to hang out with during the day, as I came back to my perch many times over the course of the day-she spoke great French-accented English, and would be flirty but unperturbed as she understood she just didn't float my boat.

Eventually a tray of fried eggs came out and I moved over to the dining table, making myself a cup of tea. I checked out girls as they arrived for duty-I hadn't seen them come in clothed, so I presume they sleep at the club. Must be a great commute / pre-work routine-no need to get dressed or fight traffic and parking.

It was a while before I had my first session-I wanted to see what the entire lineup was like before starting to make a to-do list (as in which girls to do). This cute blonde Ewa was kind of nice, looking like a young Jodie Foster, but somehow didn't seem as friendly as I would've hoped. I saw Ewa going to the room at least 8 times during the day, plus having a doubles BBBJ couch start in the main room in front of everyone. There were a few brunettes that would be fine, but I didn't see anyone that really was outstanding.

I ended up chatting with Diana, the girl who gave me the tour earlier. I got a good friendly vibe from her, so I had her get a key from the front counter.

* * *

DIANA.

Half Romanian (don't remember what the other half was). Blond, brown eyes, nice tits, friendly, good attitude.

We ended up in this big bedroom, room 7, with a curtained wall of shelves stuffed with clothes, linens, towels, and other ephemera. Diana later confirmed that many girls stay at the club, including in these rooms after closing.

Our session was on par with the GFE sessions I've had at other clubs-we took our time and I had great visuals in the big mirror to the side of the bed, especially when she was blowing me and I was fingering her pussy. Lots of DFK, eye contact, cuddling and overall sweetness, finishing with a BBBJTCIM. When I asked about coming in her mouth, Diana said,"it'll be an extra twenty euro" then quickly corrected herself-"no, I meant 25 EUR". I knew the club standard price would be 25 EUR so I just joked with her and teased her for a while: "oh, you like me so much you're giving me a discount!" I think I liked Diana's blowjob so much more than the fucking part (and I was tired after so many clubs in a row) that most of our session was spent with my dick in her mouth. After cumming she held me in her mouth so long that I thought she was going to swallow, but eventually she let go of my finally-limp dick and dumped my load into a paper towel.

* * *

After showering I hung out at the bar some more, talking with Valerie and watching the interaction between the girls and other guys. Ewa and brunette Christina kept pretending that they were a couple in front of Valerie, who seemed repelled by the notion of girl-on-girl action. They flirted with each other, kept hugging, openly felt each others tits and bums, etc, just to get a reaction from Valerie. Kind of funny. Valerie didn't have any takers all day except for this Germany ponytail guy, who I saw taking her twice over the course of the afternoon.

Another blond, Tina, had platinum dyed hair and lots of tats but didn't give me the good-session vibe either. Still though, as all the girls were full FKK, it was nice to enjoy the surplus of naked girls parading around the room.

At one point, a trio of skanky Romanian-looking girls came in, and one of the girls showed the other two where the food was, how to help yourself for drinks at the bar (girls or the thekefrau can get drinks for male customers). I took this to mean that they were new to the club and getting a new-hire orientation.

Later this manager guy, who had a real Walter White / Breaking Bad look going on, broke out a bottle of sparkling wine (prosecco or champagne, not sure) and poured a bunch of flutes, passing them out to the girls, and later holding forth with the new girls. I thought that was a nice touch, welcoming them to the family so to speak.

I didn't interact with as many girls as I usually do; I think the club has a light / no approach policy and girls did not come up to you to pitch a session, instead waiting for you to make the first move. One exception was a really skinny blonde, Jana, who comparatively had the hardest sell of the girls there. Romanian, rose tat on her right wrist-felt just wrong for some reason. I don't remember her getting any takers all day.

One girl was amazingly tall-in those hooker heels she just barely fit under the doorframe when walking between the entry and the kitchen. I figured she was about 6'2" barefoot; she had a fantastic body, just scaled up 130. Too bad Real Life doesn't have a Scale tool like Photoshop-I'd have just checked "Keep Aspect / Waist-Hip Ratio" and scaled her down to a nice spinner size and took her for a session.

During the day several guys came and went. I was for a long time the only non-German in the club (based on language and looks). One black guy showed up with his white friend, so I don't think they have an exclusionary admittance policy at Babylon, but I definitely did not see any of the Turkish gangbanger types I would later see at Mondial. Maybe it's also self-selecting-young tuff guys just don't hang out at clubs for the NPR / classical music / Buick and Olds set, and vice versa.

Main meals are ordered off a printed menu kept on the shelf where the bacon and eggs were; I wasn't sure how many you can request but I ended up ordering two meals: a late lunch and an evening meal as well. The menu is in several languages, including German, French, Italian and English. Items included:

Mains:

Pork steak.

Chicken breast tenders.

Toast Hawaii.

Something with Quark: not cut-up Ferengi, but a dairy product made from sour milk.

Sides:

White rice.

Pomme frites.

Boiled potatoes.

Broccoli.

Spinach.

Fried mushrooms.

I had the pork steak and chicken tenders, and both were ok. Not fantastic, but not inedible either. I didn't have the guts to try Toast Hawaii, even after the thekefrau explained it to me-an open-faced sandwich with ham, cheese, and pineapple, that I later learned was quite a fad in Germany for some time in the 1950s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_Hawaii

From my perch at the bar, I saw a girl who was quite striking-dark hair in ponytails with unique sparkling eyes. Paula was on my to-do list, but up close I noticed some acne scarring under her makeup, reminiscent of a Penthouse Pet I met in Vegas back in the 90s. As with that experience, the real thing didn't measure up to the first impression. Paula ended up dressing in street clothes at one point, maybe to run an errand in the outside world? But then returned and I saw her later dressed (or rather, undressed, as the girls were all full FKK) for work again.

During my visit there was one guy in his 40s or early 50s, who was continually frowning when he was standing around surveying the scene. I later saw him take Ewa and another girl for some couch action, both girls taking turns blowing him in the main room right in front of all of us, then taking them to the room. Even after that session, which would've but a big smile onto my face for sure, he was still standing around frowning. Come on, already! Many guys who haven't experienced the FKK scene much rave about substandard experiences like Palace or whatever-this guy got a dual blowjob on the couch in front of the whole club then I'm sure fucked the two girls in the room, and he's still frowning! Sheesh. There's always one of these guys in the club-how can you not be grinning ear to ear at a place where 20-40 young naked girls are lounging around, all eager to fuck you?

I had checked out the kino upstairs a couple of times earlier, not seeing any action or anyone worth doing previously, but noticed a petite girl-next-door type lounging around on the right, who I don't think I noticed hanging around downstairs. Lori, from Romania, spoke English well and we talked about a bunch of things, not much of which I can remember, while internet porn clips (FuckedHard18, Pierre Woodman, etc) played on the flat screen TV serving as the kino screen. A guy to our right was tapping away on his ThinkPad laptop, evidently working-I wasn't about to start a session with a webcam right nearby so I excused myself.

I went downstairs to use the sauna, and when I got out of my post-sauna shower I noticed a hot young thing lounging on the chaise lounge next to the sauna. She was reclining back with her feet flat on the lounge, knees up, so her shaved pussy was staring right back at me. I waltzed out of shower and started drying off before I noticed her; after exchanging greetings I started getting a boner and then ducked back into the shower to wrap up in a towel. I was still kind of heated from the sauna, so I decided to hang out on the lounge chair next to her for a while.

It wasn't until I made myself comfortable and started some small talk before I realized she was the super-tall girl from upstairs. Dominika said she was just 18, had worked in a strip club in Hungary, and was super-sweet. I thought about going to the room with her just because of that but somehow my ardor cooled down as I cooled down from my sauna, and eventually I bid her farewell and went back upstairs.

I decided to bypass the main room and go all the way up to the upper floor, and found Lori lying prone on her kino mattress, almost asleep. She looked over at me and smiled,"hey, you're back". Laptop guy had gone, so there was only a tall naked black girl on the other side of the kino room napping. I said, remembering my experience with the FKK Jedi at Mainhattan,"you look like you're relaxing-would you like a massage?" and she nodded and smiled.

I'm no pro at the massage thing, but I do ok, and I gave Lori a good 20 to 30 minutes on her back, arms, thighs, and calves. Lori had mentioned that her sister Alexa also worked at the club, and at one point Alexa poked her head in the kino so Lori could introduce me to her sister. Alexa was taller, slimmer, but you could see the family resemblance in her face. Afterward I wished I asked Lori if she and Alexa ever did sessions together-that would be quite a story to relate later.

Lori was a little tense at first, but then relaxed and at one point almost seemed to fall asleep. At least until I worked my way back up from her ankles, up her calves and hamstrings and started caressing her shaved pussy through her most excellent gap. She half-chuckled, half-purred, and smiled as I massaged her pussy and clit and then started fingering her after she got wet. She looked over, smiled, and said,"should we go to the room?" I said, of course!

* * *

LORI

Romanian, big eyes, girl next door looks, petite. Great service. Sister Alexa is thinner and taller and works same days.

We ended up in one of the two rooms at the far end of the kino, starting standing up just making out and caressing, then she bent down to blow me. We fucked for a long time-I was having a hard time popping, even after switching around to a bunch of different positions. Lori ended up putting her heels back on when we switched to stand-up doggy to get the angle right, but I still couldn't pop until we opted for a BBBJTCIM finish. Great session.

* * *

I didn't stay long after my session with Lori; I ordered my dinner and ate with Diana at the tall dining table, watching the girls smoke away and trying not to inhale too much secondhand smoke. The place had kind of cleared out; I thought maybe some girls had gone home? Certainly the number of patrons had diminished. I think Babylon might be more of a dayclub like Freude-catering to local guys who ca be away during the day with some plausible excuse but have to be home by evening.

When checking out, the thekefrau tallied up my session and extras costs (50+25 for each girl, for a total of 150 EUR) , and called out to Diana and Lori-Diana came over and gave me a nice goodbye hug and kiss. Nice touch.

SUMMARY.

I liked Babylon because of the good service I got from the two sessions. I'd like to try some of the other girls, but the rather remote location is not as convenient as perhaps Haus Panthera for the same kind of experience (service over looks). I was not disappointed by the lineup-not blown away by any stunners, but well within my expectations.

GIRLS I MET / DID:

*DIANA: 1/2 Romanian, nice tits and attitude, good English.

Valerie from Cameroon: short, curvy, spunky attitude.

Christina: looked Latin.

Ewa: blond young Jodie Foster, cute. Did about 8 rooms whilst I was there.

Tina: platinum blonde with tats.

Dominika: 18 year old super-tall Hungarian, former stripper. Sweet girl.

Jana: Romanian skinny skanky girl with a bit of desperation in her pitch.

Svenja: Thick German blonde.

Tall black girl I saw napping in the kino.

Paula: Striking eyes, dark hair in ponytails. Hot like a Penthouse Pet.

*LORI: girl next door from Romania, petite, great service.

Alexa: Lori's slimmer, taller sister.

Vitrea
05-07-14, 18:45
Tommyseville, great report. I linked it to ROD.

You mentioned a guy with think pad. Is there Wifi at Babylon?

Maxime
05-07-14, 18:52
Thanks for the report TSV, Babylon is indeed one of the few service clubs left. Good that NRW stands up, because in Hessen it is getting scarser and scarser.


Tommyseville, great report. I linked it to ROD.

You mentioned a guy with think pad. Is there Wifi at Babylon?Very weak signal, it works only in some (akward) locations of the building.

BegaBega
06-21-14, 14:17
I ask Babylon club in Elsdorf it's FKK or a Saunaclub. The girls are fully naked all the days of the week or only some are in topless?

Are there 18+ debutant like in Samya?

And then the girls in thje club approaching the clients or they are waiting like Acapulco?

Free Dude
06-21-14, 14:34
I ask Babylon club in Elsdorf it's FKK or a Saunaclub. The girls are fully naked all the days of the week or only some are in topless?

Are there 18+ debutant like in Samya?

And then the girls in thje club approaching the clients or they are waiting like Acapulco?Babylon is all FKK, all the time (unless there is a theme party). Some of the nudest girls you will find.

Yes, some debutants but more importantly: average service levels is way above the other clubs you seem to be interested in (Samya, Aca, DV).

Girls don't approach much, although I don't think it is forbidden.

BegaBega
06-21-14, 15:01
Babylon is all FKK, all the time (unless there is a theme party). Some of the nudest girls you will find.

Yes, some debutants but more importantly: average service levels is way above the other clubs you seem to be interested in (Samya, Aca, DV).

Girls don't approach much, although I don't think it is forbidden.Kissing with tongue and ball licking are an extra in this club? And Do the most girls A level?

McAdonis
06-21-14, 15:28
Do they feed you here? The website has no mention of food included in the daily 30 EUR ticket--just soft drinks, fruits, and snacks.

BigBuddy69
06-21-14, 15:41
Do they feed you here? The website has no mention of food included in the daily 30 EUR ticket--just soft drinks, fruits, and snacks.No food, just some snacks.

Maxime
06-22-14, 21:33
Kissing with tongue and ball licking are an extra in this club? And Do the most girls A level?DFK should be normal and included, ball licking also inclusive if the girl provides this. Many girls offer A-level, see website for profiles plus services (+50 euro).

Mambomike
06-26-14, 12:57
I see that the price of extras is listed on their website and that a reviewer paid 100 euro for a 60 minute session, but a little clarification is needed. Are all girls 100 Euro for 60 minutes, or are some 50+25 Euro NRW standard? Also is COB 50 Euro (this was what I was charged during my one visit here)? And lastly, if you go for the +25 CIM extra, how to you keep the girl from swallowing for an added 25 Euro on top of that, LOL?

Free Dude
06-26-14, 15:42
It is 100 an hour for all girls in Babylon; they only get 40 for each half hour though, as the club takes 10 E (girls pay no entry fee).

You only pay when you leave, so the girls can't charge you less. The only thing they could do is write down less time, but this doesn't happen often.

Wolvenvacht
06-28-14, 20:49
I see that the price of extras is listed on their website and that a reviewer paid 100 euro for a 60 minute session, but a little clarification is needed. Are all girls 100 Euro for 60 minutes, or are some 50+25 Euro NRW standard? Also is COB 50 Euro (this was what I was charged during my one visit here)? And lastly, if you go for the +25 CIM extra, how to you keep the girl from swallowing for an added 25 Euro on top of that, LOL?Actually it is 50 EURO per 30 minutes. For most of us that is enough for one pop.

As to "extras" you have to agree with the girl beforehand. If you agree to pay the 25 EURO for CIM and she swallows then she should not charge you the extra for swallowing.

I was there last year and did not get the impression that they were out to swindle you.

Maxime
06-30-14, 09:33
I see that the price of extras is listed on their website and that a reviewer paid 100 euro for a 60 minute session, but a little clarification is needed. Are all girls 100 Euro for 60 minutes, or are some 50+25 Euro NRW standard? Also is COB 50 Euro (this was what I was charged during my one visit here)? And lastly, if you go for the +25 CIM extra, how to you keep the girl from swallowing for an added 25 Euro on top of that, LOL?It is indeed 50 euro per half hour in Babylon (which most girls in GT and LR also ask, despite the rule of 50+25 overthere.).

Extra's like CIM / CIF are +25 euro. Some sharks ask money for COB, but this is not common. Swallowing officialy is indeed +50, but some sharks just do that to sneaky upgrade a CIM / CIF from +25 to +50. A-level is +50.

So extra's are on the same level as most other NRW clubs (in Hessen area most of these extra's are double and not perse better executed!

TankTank123
08-03-14, 03:22
I have not been to Babylon before but I am tempted to give it a try during my next visit to Cologne that is coming up. As there does not seem to be any information on taxi availability in this thread, can someone let me know please whether taxis would be readily available from the Bergheim station? Thank you.

Koosje12
08-03-14, 17:32
I have not been to Babylon before but I am tempted to give it a try during my next visit to Cologne that is coming up. As there does not seem to be any information on taxi availability in this thread, can someone let me know please whether taxis would be readily available from the Bergheim station? Thank you.I haven't seen any taxi's during my last visit. There is a bus (963) from Bergheim to Elsdorf though. You will need to get off at busstop Gut Neuenhof, from there it's just a 2 minutes walk to Babylon. You would need to plan ahead though as it isn't available each hour.

UltraHappy
08-03-14, 22:13
i haven't seen any taxi's during my last visit. there is a bus (963) from bergheim to elsdorf though. you will need to get off at busstop gut neuenhof, from there it's just a 2 minutes walk to babylon. you would need to plan ahead though as it isn't available each hour.i've always wondered how one knows the taxi number to call in each german city. i already know a great taxi company in bad homburg. in other cities, i usually just ask at the hotel for a recommended taxi company. but, what if i'm somewhere and need a taxi number in a bind?

in searching the internet, i found this convenient service: http://www.bahn.com/i/view/gbr/en/services/overview/taxi.shtml.

-begin excerpt-.

your taxi service throughout germany: taxi hotline 22456*.

taxi hotline throughout germany.

even at smaller stations which do not have their own taxi stand you can conveniently get off the train and into a taxi: we have set up a joint hotline together with taxi deutschland e. g. - an alliance of major taxi associations in germany. you can thus call a taxi quickly without any problem in any town in germany with more than 5,000 inhabitants.

can be reached from all german mobile phone networks.

the taxi hotline 22456* which is valid throughout germany can be reached from all german mobile phone networks and costs eur 0. 69 per minute. please tell the automatic speech dialogue system the name of the town. you will then be connected directly with the local taxi company. please note that this service is only offered in german and english.

* eur 0. 69 / min. , can be reached from all german mobile phone networks.

-end excerpt-.

but i also don't like the idea of paying 0. 69 euro / minute.

is there another recommended way of finding good taxi numbers in random german cities? is there a recommended app for this? just wondering if anyone else has found a really good solution for always having a taxi at the ready?

TankTank123
08-04-14, 11:09
I haven't seen any taxi's during my last visit.Thanks very much for the quick response. I guess I will spend an additional day instead at Bernd's then.

LongRange
08-04-14, 11:17
If you were to use the bus, and 963 connects a number of stations on the Regional Bahn network, the stop mentioned is very close to Babylon, I have used this myself, but the last bus is 2021 back, there may be buses available from Elsdorf bus bahnhof, but that's about 30 minutes walk from Babylon, so maybe you use the bus there and get a taxi back, if you are on a budget, I am sure the club would call one for you.

The 963 schedule is available on the Deutsche Bahn website, bahn. De, you can plan the whole journey bus and train on there, hope that helps.

Hessen Bub
08-04-14, 12:46
http://www.taxi.de/?force=normal

Never tried it. There's also an app available. I usually use Google, entering "taxi" and the City I am in to find a local taxi company.

HB.

Hessen Bub
08-04-14, 12:51
Was at Babylon once. On a Weekday. Didn't like the club. Didn't like the lineup. Will not repeat. If you are looking for model type girls. Wrong place. Even the service wasn't any better than at GT, LR or Acapulco.

HB.

Free Dude
08-04-14, 13:22
Was at Babylon once. On a Weekday. Didn't like the club. Didn't like the lineup. Will not repeat. If you are looking for model type girls. Wrong place. Even the service wasn't any better than at GT, LR or Acapulco.

HB.You were there once on a weekday a while ago, maybe better not to post about it now. I remeber you writing about good service on your own little forum though. That average service is comparable with LR / GT / Aca is BS though, especially when your comparison is Linda and Daria in LR.

Hessen Bub
08-04-14, 22:05
Yes, it was April last year. Yes, I reprorted on A German board, not MY Board. Yes, I had one great and two average sessions. And yes, that ratio is no better than at my visits to LR, GT, Acapulco. An no, that's not BS, that is MY opinion on Babylon. Based on one visit. No more. No less.

HB.

Dutedrac
08-07-14, 17:58
Me too once. Didn't like the club, it's really small. Like bernds but bernds feels more comfy. Didn't like the lineup. No real lookers and much more romanians than I hoped for. Had an awesome (Romanian) session in a huge room up the stairs, though. So the service ratio is high? LOL.