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So in advance of this, I suddenly start wondering:
--Is there a preferred time of the day to visit this club? or is there a time to avoid?
--I know many clubs have particular patterns: the day time sucks for selection, but after 19.00 the place really picks up...or there are two shifts, day shift vs night shift etc... Well given the fairly early closing time of Bernd's relative to some other clubs, maybe there is only one shift? So if one arrives at say, 15.00, is this a good time to catch the full selection and not be inundated with other male guests? or can one still show up as late as 18.00 and have the best benefits the club can offer?
Ortos
I've always gotten to this club early in the PM to a) make sure I get in - it is small and can get crowded (hence my mix feelings about talking about it too much), b) get as much action as I can get.
The clientele skews more older, prosperous businessmen or older, retired and prosperous businessmen. In either case, they seem to have time and money on their hands and will camp out there for extended periods of time. Lots of them are regulars who the barmaids will greet with a: "Gruess dich, Otto!".
I have only seen one shift there. The same women who are there at opening are then until the end.
So long as they aren't having a special event (a theme party), you should be able to get in in the early evening.
The women do have very long shifts though and tend to get tired towards the end of the day. It is also when they are loosest and the more talkative, I've found. I've had ridiculous and amusing conversations late in the day when they let their guard down and just want to be entertained.
Yeah, true, 70 euro is steep. And the facilites are not the greatest. But the food is decent and there all day. (Which not the case at Oase, BTW). And alcoholic drinks are included in the admission. So if you want to have a few beers or a cognac, then 70 euro is not that much.
euro
--Is there a preferred time of the day to visit this club? or is there a time to avoid?
I can't think of any reason in the world why you would want to ever avoid this club, unless you're against no holds barred GFE sex. It is a little slower earlier in the day, with an older crowd, and as the day goes on, a younger professional crowd comes in, people get looser from a few drinks and advanced states of tiredness and it becomes crazier.
--I know many clubs have particular patterns: the day time sucks for selection, but after 19.00 the place really picks up...or there are two shifts, day shift vs night shift etc... Well given the fairly early closing time of Bernd's relative to some other clubs, maybe there is only one shift?
You're basing this question on your experiences with the bigger clubs. Bernd's is different. The girls are regulars for long periods of time and can't be there if their service sucks. You will not find a selection at Bernd's that sucks (well actually everyone that I select there "sucks" :-)), but you also might not find your perfect fantasy fuck physical specimens.
There's only one shift, but most of the girls don't start at 1 p.m. and stagger in at different times during the early afternoon. Peak times begin after 5 when working locals can get away from their offices and delay going home to their families, and all of the girls working that day will get there by then.
So if one arrives at say, 15.00, is this a good time to catch the full selection and not be inundated with other male guests? or can one still show up as late as 18.00 and have the best benefits the club can offer?
Yes and Yes. Arriving earlier, there will be fewer male competitors, but also fewer women. If you arrive after 6, you will certainly be able to enjoy all of the "best benefits".
at Bernd's yesterday. Whereas, I usually am forced to spend my down time talking with one or more naked women, who sometimes start to fondle the family jewels and wand, which distracts me and impairs my natural conversational abilities, yesterday I could talk with a bunch of naked men, none of whom tried to fondle me (thanks guys), contributing to the high level of content and intelligent discussion :-)
I counted at one time 10 English speakers; 7 American, 2 English and 1 Scottish. Met Nashluv69 and Eric Burdon, who are occasional posters (Great to meet you guys - POST!!) and a couple of lurkers. In fact we outmanned the local clientele. We spent so much time shooting the breeze that I almost missed my reunion with Jessi.
Bernd's was its usual raunchy self. Other than Jessi, I also continued from where we left off last time with Princess and had a great hour long fun session with her, finishing with COB on those amazing enhancements, contined the love hate relationship with Katja, made up to Leila for missing her during my last trip and got to cross Agata off of my To Do list.
Also spotted; Anna, Babsy, Katja, Jamilia, Jenny, Monica, Rita, Sabrina, Sandi Tatjana + 2 others whose names escape me. Not seen: Mara, Marcella, Michelle, Diana.
This forum is at least partially responsible for this new foreign popularity. It's great to have the company, let's just commit not to ruin this jewel...
... and got to cross Agata off of my To Do list.
Well, did I promise too much?
euro
Princess does a mean deepthroat!! Katja seems pissed off all the time.
at Bernd's yesterday. Whereas, I usually am forced to spend my down time talking with one or more naked women, who sometimes start to fondle the family jewels and wand, which distracts me and impairs my natural conversational abilities, yesterday I could talk with a bunch of naked men, none of whom tried to fondle me (thanks guys), contributing to the high level of content and intelligent discussion :-)
I counted at one time 10 English speakers; 7 American, 2 English and 1 Scottish. Met Nashluv69 and Eric Burdon, who are occasional posters (Great to meet you guys - POST!!) and a couple of lurkers. In fact we outmanned the local clientele. We spent so much time shooting the breeze that I almost missed my reunion with Jessi.
Bernd's was its usual raunchy self. Other than Jessi, I also continued from where we left off last time with Princess and had a great hour long fun session with her, finishing with COB on those amazing enhancements, contined the love hate relationship with Katja, made up to Leila for missing her during my last trip and got to cross Agata off of my To Do list.
Also spotted; Anna, Babsy, Katja, Jamilia, Jenny, Monica, Rita, Sabrina, Sandi Tatjana + 2 others whose names escape me. Not seen: Mara, Marcella, Michelle, Diana.
This forum is at least partially responsible for this new foreign popularity. It's great to have the company, let's just commit not to ruin this jewel...
Well, did I promise too much?
euro
was OK. You can never promise too much when it comes to Bernd's women...
Happy T-day
this report was written to educate us poor unfortunates who live on the other side of the world from fkk clubs. hope you enjoy the style.
bernd’s is reported as one of the best-respected fkk style clubs in germany. for those of you who don’t know how an fkk club works, you pay an entry of normally 70e and then you can sit, watch, eat, drink and have sex with a selection of girls all day. one session is normally 30 mins and you also get about a 15 min warm-up in the public area, which includes bbbj and dfk all for 50e. anal is available from some girls for an extra 50e and some will do bbbj and cim as part of the base deal.
one of the reasons (but by far not the main one) is to get an appreciation for public style sex, as at some fkk’s you can have sex with the girl in the public areas. laga will understand why this is important as we have a plan to see a fine pair of ladies in sydney for a foursome, so i needed to get some group action in so as not to embarrass myself.
arrival
i arranged to meet a guy there who would show me the ropes and hopefully tell me which girl does what. as it happened, when i arrived for the start of the sauna club day at 1pm, he messaged me to advise he would be another hour, so i nervously walked up to the door of the club, which for all intents is just an ordinary house, in a residential street in a quiet village some ½ an hour from cologne.
i went in and paid my 70e. it may have been 1.10 but already there was about 6 guys ahead of me and some 10-15 ladies all in the nude. a young dutch girl, mara, was asked to show the englishman around as she speaks excellent english. she told me to shower and then return to the bar where she would collect me and take me on the tour.
the first novel experience was in the communal shower with other naked guys. no australian brothel here with divisions between punters. this is a happy family where we share things, like the guys walking around in towels and the girls being stark naked. mara showed me round and there are basically two areas, one on the ground level and one in the basement. for your 70e you get free food, drink, towels as required, snacks and in true german fashion passive smoking that will give you lung cancer!
what the hell, i was all in now. mara has a good description on the forums around and i will borrow some of these so you get the feeling:
mara: fair-skin dutch girl, short brown hair, 22, 5'5, figure size-2, nice body and b-cups with neighbour-girl looks. a steady hof-girl for several years, mara's service is excellent in all aspects. she does excellent lesbian trio's with babsi and brandy. mara has many long-term clients, so sometimes hard to get.
it was a great day with a temp of 27c so i took the liberty of sitting out in the garden, admiring three lovely girls lying naked on sun loungers topping up their tan, while i sank my first free pilsner. after a short time my mate arrived. he proved a good source of info. after chatting for 15 mins he got toey and headed off for his first pop. i went back in to see that things were beginning to happen.
the sex starts here
i sat on the main lounge and watched the porn and checked out how things worked. the girls don’t hassle you so you need to make the first move. a guy sitting near me moved next to one of the girls and started to chat, and within a minute they were dfking. no problem, i follow what is going on here, in a minute they will disappear to a room and that’s that.
wrong…..the girl started stroking his cock under his towel with the desired effect, and before i knew, the towel was open and she was giving him what looked like a great bbbj. you can imagine me now thinking…”okay, so this is fkk life”. within another 5 mins, they disappeared to a room.
i decided i liked the look of monica, a very tidy 30 yr old hungarian girl, who was not reviewed on the sites i had read, but just looked very nice. she was probably an 8 for those of you in to numbers, med brunette, b cups, great tan, about 5’6”, nice butt, shaven but for a small strip and a great smile.
i asked her a couple of questions and she said she didn’t speak much english. now don’t let this put you off as all the girls speak some english, especially all the sex related words which are important. we started kissing and she sucked my nipples. she then slid her hand under my towel and i was fully ready to go. all this in your face sex was having a great effect on my libido and she asked if she could suck my cock. there may have been 10 people in the room, but i wasn’t going to say no. as she sucked i looked around and realized this was normal operations and so just enjoy. after about 5 mins she suggested we go to a room which we did.
when we got to the room, she left the door ajar, so that people passing in the hall could have a peek. you can tell that by now i was in for a penny, in for a pound so what the hell. she then proceeded to give me a great bbbj including the porn-star style spitting on my cock which had me close to blowing before i stopped her and told her we had to fuck. she asked if i would daty her and i was delighted to oblige. after a few minutes she came and writhed around the bed as i held the moment for her. it was fuck time and she rolled on a condom and after three or four positions, she jumped off me, tore the condom off and sucked me again bb like her life depended on it. as i came she took my cock out of her mouth and sprayed it all over the pair of us which had me climbing the walls in ecstasy.
we had a quick cuddle and chat and then i headed for the shower thinking….i love this place.
so, it’s 2.30, i’ve had sex with a great hungarian girl, time for another beer and chat to some people who speak english. after plenty of refresh time it was time for round two. my new-found mate suggested anna. her description is as follows:
anna: very attractive polish girl, medium-long blond hair, 23, 5'8, figure size-2, great body and c-cups. a hof-girl for about 5 months, anna's service is excellent in all aspects. for lesbian trio's she prefers brandy which is great, according to a fellow dutchman.
we hooked up in the downstairs bar area and she was very passionate. she started sucking me off in front of the masses whilst i played with her pussy and her very nice boobs. after a few minutes she led me to a room and she sucked like a girl possessed, before fitting the condom and then bending down in front of me for some hard doggy action. some cowgirl and mish followed, before she waved me off, peeled off the condom and sucked me bb until i cim. she appeared to swallow the lot because i didn’t see it going anywhere else and you can just imagine how i felt.
after showering again, i made a mental note to get some cialis for next time as i could go mad here if i was up to it.
i returned to the downstairs area and started chatting to two english soldiers and my new found mate. we swapped stories, drank beer and watched at least three couples at different times have sex in front of us. by now i was hardly even noticing someone having their cock sucked in front of me, so i knew i had passed the group sex task with flying colours.
the final pop was saved for a girl i had really liked since i arrived. her name is jenny and her description is as follows:
jenny: attractive tiny greek/german girl, long curly blond hair, 22, 4'11, figure size-0/2, nice body and a/b-cups. a hof-girl for a year, jenny's service is excellent in all aspects including anal-ic. she's also doing good lesbian trio's with several long-term hof-girls.
she was very much my type and i smiled at her as she walked passed and told her i liked her. she immediately gave me full attention and told me to sit on the lounge upstairs. we kissed passionately and i loved every minute. i was going to take her home to meet my mum, so i knew this would be good. i was not disappointed. she lay over the top of me her mouth wrapped around my cock and her lithe, even tanned petite body, totally at my disposal. she is gorgeous.
we headed off to a room and again we left the door open. i told her to go doggy style on the bed and i started daty, working her clit, inserting fingers in all the nicest spots and rimming her sexy butt. this was better than sex, well nearly and she responded magnificently. she reciprocated with great bbbj before putting on a condom and getting me to fuck her doggy, which was awesome. she rolled over and we finished in mish with great dfk, and a lot of compliments from me to her ensured she was very happy. off came the condom and the bbbj started again. my poor cock was worn out so i finished off by hand with her help over her tits and as my cum launched passed her face i was totally satisfied.
we lay back and cuddled and she was ultra gfe. this is one fine lady if you like blonde petite girls, and i do. i commented on her great even tan, and she pointed out the only white bit was between the cheeks of her butt, and she pulled them apart and showed me in great detail. now that’s what you call class!
showered again and got dressed as i had to find my hotel. i paid for my day. now bear in mind, i paid 70e (0.6e=$1) to get in, had at least 5 pils, probably the same number of cokes, chips, nuts, a banana and sauerkraut and mash potatoes to keep me going. i had been through about 5 towels, watched their porn, watched live sex and been there from 1.10 to 9.30. i could have stayed till close at midnight too.
my bill for the three girls was 150e, that’s 50e each, no extra payments, up-sell or whatever. i had missed out on two girls as a double and sex in the bar areas or in the room with just a full glass wall where everyone can see you.
but what the hell, there’s always next time.
this area of germany is called the pussy triangle and let me tell you it has never come or cum better. i would happily have a had sex with at least another 7 girls that day before even thinking about coming back for seconds. they have girls for all tastes, and some of them were not mine. but then again, some of the guys were downright unattractive so whatever gets you through the night, i say.
top spot, total of 220e for 8.5 hours of debauchery.
c1
ps i intend to return on dec 1, so if you want to meet up, drop me a line.
editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Welcome aboard, dude... or as you say Down Under: mate!
Glad you had a good time at Bernds. As a newbie you started you career at the "Mother Of All Clubs", the oldest of them all, an institution in the world of FKK-Dom known for its loose environment and pure exhibitionism.
To set things in proper perspective: other clubs have better facilities, a larger selection and better looking women. This one, however, guarantees your satisfaction service-wise.
Wrong…..the girl started stroking his cock under his towel with the desired effect, and before I knew, the towel was open and she was giving him what looked like a great BBBJ. You can imagine me now thinking…”Okay, so this is FKK life”. Within another 5 mins, they disappeared to a room.
Its almost like they time the couch interaction (which isnt included as room time). So you get a free warm-up before heading off to the room. But that's not always the case...sometimes the girl wants to have public display to show off her talents...and they'll stay right on the couch the entire time. Once you cum your done...if you come during the introductory bbbj im going to guess they wont do the half hour in the room (but im not sure).
I saw this hot little Russian girl on my last visit...I sat next to her and did the dfk'ing, groping and then she opened my towel and started a bbbj. I was expecting the usual 2 minute bbbj...but it went on and on for a good 15 minutes. I finally had to ask her to go to the room where we went at it for another half hour. No upcharging, she only charged for the room time.
After a hard days work in Frankfurt, I had a very nice dinner at the Restaurant Hafez in Baseler Strasse, next door to the Hotel Europa. They probably have the best Persian / Iranian kitchen in Frankfurt, at the moment, and a decent wine list. Slept well, dreaming of Babsi and woke up late, but rested, as Bernds Sauna Club, opens only at 13:00. I borrowed a compact Opel from a business associate, ostensibly for "sightseeing" and took off North West on the A3. Hennef-Lictenberg is easy to find, even without navigation assistance.
It was almost 13:30, when I turned into Schieferhof and parked in the "remote" parking lot, which is just 20 meters from the front door. Rang the door bell and expectantly waited to enter FKK heaven. The door opened and Mara was there in all her glorious nakedness to welcome me in. Paid the entry fee of EUR 70.00 and undressed in the locker room, wrapped myself in the rather small towel. Are the towels here deliberately sized to be small? They are much smaller than the towels at any of the other FKKs in Germany. In any case, I was not here to measure the towels.
There were about 10 men there already and the usual contingent of service providers. At the main bar, I asked for Mara and was told that she was busy with a customer. So, I told the barmaid - I've forgotten her name - to inform Mara that I was looking for her. Then, I went down to the sauna and spent a hot 15 minutes defrosting my old bones, followed by a bracing, cold shower.
Now, a word of appreciation here for Manuella [spelling?], the downstairs bartender - she was just great. She quickly refilled your glasses before they were empty. She kept the snack bowls always full and has good taste in music. They have an interesting IBM-PC based music system at the downstairs bar - which I have seen at quite a few of the other FKKs in Germany.
A half hour later, Mara comes downstairs and hugs me, with her perky breasts pressing into my back, gently massaging my shoulders. I did not want to waste any more time and went with Mara immediately into the middle room, next to the bar. There is no need to describe Mara, as many of our colleagues on ISG have already described her, quite eloquently. But, I must state that she is certainly not muscular, as described in a few reports. She is well toned and has a lovely skin texture. She speaks excellent English...she is Dutch...and after a few minutes banter, she started DFK and then onto a sensuous and deep BBBJ. She has got an excellent technique for the BBBJ and can quickly flick her wet tongue on the glans so quickly that it drove me wild. Still holding my penis in her mouth, she turned around, placing her fragranced pussy over my face. I was so entranced by the sight of her pubescent pussy, that I did DATY in a FKK, for the first time in my life. I must have done something right, as she soon was so wet and dripping on my face. She continued her BBBJ with a pumping action from her hand, till I CIM, sucking me completely dry. She does not swallow and after safely wrapping away all the sperm in her mouth, she spooned up next to me. And, we were just chatting away for another 10 minutes or so. A real GFE.
After the first session, I showered and went upstairs for some food. I understand that the menu at Bernds, which is being catered from the Hotel Restaurant Reuter, does not change at all. And, is the same every day. One of the women here actually cooks and brings dinner packed for a bunch of the girls, every day, as a paid service. The food was not all that great, but satiates and the fresh fruit selection was nice.
It was now time for my massage. Contrary to a report several pages earlier, the masseuse is not available for sex. She clearly mentioned at the start, that the massage was strictly a massage, nothing more and nothing less. The masseuse was a Turkish girl and the massage was lackluster, although she had some nice Native American chants playing on her CD-player.
I went downstairs after the massage, marking Agata as my next target. But, I had to wait for a whole hour and a half, before she was free from servicing her loyal, local clientele. But, the session with Agata was forgettable. She looks very exotic - she is half Portuguese and has such dreamy and sexy eyes. But, her performance in the room was not on par with the other providers here. She does not do DFK, preferring to do a light peck on the lips, which is like a LightFK. And, she seemed to be hurrying me up. And, apparently she does not do CIM either. We were finished with the session in 20 minutes. She said something in German, which I understood to be that she was going to take a shower with me, but when we exited the room, she just gave me a new towel and pointed me to the shower stall in the back. This was probably due to a miscommunication, due to my limited understanding of German.
After the statutory post-coital cleanup and shower, I had a banana and an apple and hit the A3 to reach Frankfurt and my comfortable bed at the Hotel Europa, a very happy man.
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
Regular visitors to Bernds Sauna Club, could you, PLEASE, clarify the following:
1. Is it possible to order by telephone, fresh food - pasta or pizza or doner, from outside, for delivery, possibly from the Hotel Restaurant Reuter?
2. Is it acceptable to leave a small tip for the upstairs or the downstairs barmaids? If this is allright, what would be the amount of the tip? EUR 5 or EUR 10?
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
ChicagoMan--The masseuse on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays is named Sandra and she is available for sex. She is German and close to forty. She gives a very good massage and an even better BBBJ. If you have any MILF fantasies to sort out, she's the woman for you.
Are the towels here deliberately sized to be small? They are much smaller than the towels at any of the other FKKs in Germany. In any case, I was not here to measure the towels.
The smallest towels in all of FKK-Dom are at La Folie in Berlin. They are the size of a handkerchief. They will cover your balls or your dick but not both.
I did not want to waste any more time and went with Mara immediately into the middle.
She does not swallow and after safely wrapping away all the sperm in her mouth, she spooned up next to me. And, we were just chatting away for another 10 minutes or so. A real GFE.
This is what I mean about GFE. This woman is extremely busy, always in demand. She (as well as the rest of the team) will take time with each customer, even spend post-coital time with you.
At the large not to be named clubs in Hessen within a minute of you coming, she's up and about making the bed trying to get you out of the room.
This is the one thing which pisses me off. If I want to have a Laufhaus experience, I go to a Laufhaus. That I would get that kind of service at a so-called "reputable FKK club" turns me off.
The only other clubs where post-coital time was the norm were Babylon and Wiago. But even that too has changed and it isn't standard any more.
When I write I had a good experience with someone, my reference point is the Bernds, Babylon or Wiago experience (at least as it used to be). It is not the Laufhaus standard.
It was now time for my massage. Contrary to a report several pages earlier, the masseuse is not available for sex. She clearly mentioned at the start, that the massage was strictly a massage, nothing more and nothing less.
Some of the masseuses are and some aren't. The other place where the masseuse does full serve is Blue Note.
But, the session with Agata was forgettable.
But, her performance in the room was not on par with the other providers here. She does not do DFK, preferring to do a light peck on the lips, which is like a LightFK. And, she seemed to be hurrying me up. And, apparently she does not do CIM either. We were finished with the session in 20 minutes. She said something in German, which I understood to be that she was going to take a shower with me, but when we exited the room, she just gave me a new towel and pointed me to the shower stall in the back. This was probably due to a miscommunication, due to my limited understanding of German.
I've never had the pleasure and am disappointed this was not good for you. CIM is normally standard or at least I thought it was.
It could be that your chemistry doesn't work well particularly if you can't communicate. Some people underestimate the role language plays here. If you can speak German you get so much more out of sessions than if you don't.
But, the session with Agata was forgettable. She looks very exotic - she is half Portuguese and has such dreamy and sexy eyes. But, her performance in the room was not on par with the other providers here. She does not do DFK, preferring to do a light peck on the lips, which is like a LightFK. And, she seemed to be hurrying me up. And, apparently she does not do CIM either.
I am sorry to hear this. Agata was just great for me. She did DFK and was very good at it. I guess this proves that even at the Hof person-to-person chemistry plays some role.
At the large not to be named clubs in Hessen within a minute of you coming, she's up and about making the bed trying to get you out of the room.
This is the one thing which pisses me off. If I want to have a Laufhaus experience, I go to a Laufhaus. That I would get that kind of service at a so-called "reputable FKK club" turns me off.
Oh man, you must have had a horrible experience (or several of them ...) at the big-3. While I cannot deny that this getting up right after the deed is done thing has happened to me, too, I also have plenty of experiences where the girl stayed with me in the room for quite a while after the pop.
At Hof, Diana got up right away after we were done, too. But this was fine, because we had had almost filled the entire 30 minutes with pretty athletic sex. And if you ask me how I want to spend my 30 minutes, talking or pumping, I think you know my answer ;). (And by the way, the fact that ChicagoMan did not get DFK or CIM from Agata blows the theory that everybody gets uniformly heavenly service at Hof right out of the water.)
In my opinion there is just very little difference between the service/GFE aspect between Hof and Oase/Palace/FKKW. After the session is done, the girls move on to the next customer in all places. For comparison, when I am in Rio, the true GFE experience in the termas includes the girl spending the rest of the evening with you, in many instances even coming over to your hotel room for an all-nighter if you want. Often they get TOO clingy! As one of my buddies on the Rio-part of this board puts it: "You do not pay them to have sex, you pay them to leave when you want them to leave."
And by the way, the fact that ChicagoMan did not get DFK or CIM from Agata blows the theory that everybody gets uniformly heavenly service at Hof right out of the water.)
DFK and CIM. The DFK I know from personal experience; the CIM from a blow to blow report from another customer, 10 minutes after the act. These are both standard servcies and she could lose her job by witholding them, so I would surmise that either there was a misunderstanding or soemthing else was going on.
1. Is it possible to order by telephone, fresh food - pasta or pizza or doner, from outside, for delivery, possibly from the Hotel Restaurant Reuter?
I've not seen or heard it done. You probably could make a special order from Hotel Reuter from their regular menu but I doubt if they have pizza or doner or a much wider variety.
2. Is it acceptable to leave a small tip for the upstairs or the downstairs barmaids? If this is allright, what would be the amount of the tip? EUR 5 or EUR 10?
NO. Service is expected and not to be tipped. If you'd like to express appreciation, give her a big kiss and hug, or bring her some chocolates next time.
Nick The G
11-26-06, 00:43
At the large not to be named clubs in Hessen within a minute of you coming, she's up and about making the bed trying to get you out of the room.
This is the one thing which pisses me off. If I want to have a Laufhaus experience, I go to a Laufhaus. That I would get that kind of service at a so-called "reputable FKK club" turns me off.
The only other clubs where post-coital time was the norm .......You can expect such a behaviour in large clubs on party days. It happened to me once or twice, yes!
I feel sorry for you, because in all other cases I had totally different experiences in WORLD and Palace. I'm really amused about the term ”post-coital time”.
If this is so important to you, why don't you tell the woman in advance what you really need. Maybe you should try to spend 100 Euro next time, leaves you more room for warming up with the woman in ”post-coital time”.
Oh man, you must have had a horrible experience (or several of them ...) at the big-3. While I cannot deny that this getting up right after the deed is done thing has happened to me, too, I also have plenty of experiences where the girl stayed with me in the room for quite a while after the pop.
At Hof, Diana got up right away after we were done, too. But this was fine, because we had had almost filled the entire 30 minutes with pretty athletic sex. And if you ask me how I want to spend my 30 minutes, talking or pumping, I think you know my answer ;). (And by the way, the fact that ChicagoMan did not get DFK or CIM from Agata blows the theory that everybody gets uniformly heavenly service at Hof right out of the water.)
In my opinion there is just very little difference between the service/GFE aspect between Hof and Oase/Palace/FKKW. After the session is done, the girls move on to the next customer in all places. For comparison, when I am in Rio, the true GFE experience in the termas includes the girl spending the rest of the evening with you, in many instances even coming over to your hotel room for an all-nighter if you want. Often they get TOO clingy! As one of my buddies on the Rio-part of this board puts it: "You do not pay them to have sex, you pay them to leave when you want them to leave."
I've had good experiences at World and bad ones too. Never any excellent ones. Those have all been elsewhere.
My sense of it is that you need a guide who knows who is who at World because it can be very uneven quality-wise and its hard to size up the large selection. I'm just not there that often to get a feel for it hence my hesitation in visiting the large Hessen 3 when I am there.
And you may not believe it but I have also visited and left World "ungepoppt" as the Germans say.
Re: ChicagoMan's experience at the Hof. Chemistry is part of the equation, definitely. She could also just have been having a bad day. They are women after all and in real life they are normally difficult to figure out.
Again, just my opinion and anyone is free to disagree.
Now Rio, that is not something I've done yet!
My only other hunting ground is Montreal which I go to to experience multi hour sessions with intelligent and communicative Quebecoises.
A GFE to me is hooking up with a woman who I can picture myself actually going out with in real life. If she has nothing to say, its a turn off immediately. I don't find dumb women sexy. My Romanian isn't good enough to figure out who at World meets my GFE standard and who doesn't.
You can expect such a behaviour in large clubs on party days. It happened to me once or twice, yes!
I feel sorry for you, because in all other cases I had totally different experiences in WORLD and Palace. I'm really amused about the term ”post-coital time”.
If this is so important to you, why don't you tell the woman in advance what you really need. Maybe you should try to spend 100 Euro next time, leaves you more room for warming up with the woman in ”post-coital time”.
I can't think of any other way to describe it. :-)
I equate her standing up quickly to make the bed to a Laufhaus experience. If I want a Laufhaus experience, I go to a Laufhaus. But this is sometimes the level of service which I've gotten at an FKK club.
If she doesn't kiss, thats another Laufhaus thing. Or if she isn't into eye contact.
If she starts reading off a menu in terms what she will do or won't do, dictates restrictions or starts to upsell, she's definitely Laufhaus material.
And what really puts her on my "do not do again" list is when I pass her in the hallway, I wave "hi" or give her a smile and she ignores me.
She should at least try to maintain the illusion.
My preferences also have something to do with the type of women who I look for.
In my years of visiting, I tend to look for the "talented amateur".
She's most likely German, in her early twenties, a University student or just completed her Abi. You can tell she's a talented amateur because she really enjoys herself, gives you free rein in deciding what you will do. She is definitely not in it for the long term, definitely not a hardened hooker. And if you spend enough time talking to her you find out that she has something to say.
But these experiences are fleeting. She's doing this metier to meet some financial need and once she meets her objective, she's gone and I usually never see her again.
I almost never meet any women like this at the Hessen 3 as mostly they are foreign (Romanians being the largest contingent), they don't speak German very well and they are there to do business and nothing more. Too mercenary for my taste.
Now if someone would create a club for "talented amateurs", that is the one I would go back to over and over again.
Bernds is a good club and its lineup suceeds because they are professionals who maintain the illusion they are amateurs. Given a choice, I'd prefer an all amateur lineup but Bernds will do.
My preferences also have something to do with the type of women who I look for.
In my years of visiting, I tend to look for the "talented amateur".
She's most likely German, in her early twenties, a University student or just completed her Abi. You can tell she's a talented amateur because she really enjoys herself, gives you free rein in deciding what you will do. She is definitely not in it for the long term, definitely not a hardened hooker. And if you spend enough time talking to her you find out that she has something to say.
But these experiences are fleeting. She's doing this metier to meet some financial need and once she meets her objective, she's gone and I usually never see her again.
I almost never meet any women like this at the Hessen 3 as mostly they are foreign (Romanians being the largest contingent), they don't speak German very well and they are there to do business and nothing more. Too mercenary for my taste.
Now if someone would create a club for "talented amateurs", that is the one I would go back to over and over again.
Your criteria are part of the attraction that i find at German swinger clubs and especially at Beverly;
The women are talented amateurs, really enjoy themselves, allow what happens to happen, and are definitely not in it for long time or hardened hookers. My German sucks, but when we get over the language barrier, (and I usually end up going with couples for whom this is not a barrier) We have great smart conversations about life, both in the bar, on the bed and during what you call post-coital time.
Now, they're usually not in their early 20's or university students any more, but that happens too, and the fact that they are talented amateurs, funny, intelligent and sexy with whom you can connect on a real person level, is just as, if not more of a turn-on.
So the club exists, my friend....
Your criteria are part of the attraction that i find at German swinger clubs and especially at Beverly;
The women are talented amateurs, really enjoy themselves, allow what happens to happen, and are definitely not in it for long time or hardened hookers. My German sucks, but when we get over the language barrier, (and I usually end up going with couples for whom this is not a barrier) We have great smart conversations about life, both in the bar, on the bed and during what you call post-coital time.
Now, they're usually not in their early 20's or university students any more, but that happens too, and the fact that they are talented amateurs, funny, intelligent and sexy with whom you can connect on a real person level, is just as, if not more of a turn-on.
So the club exists, my friend....
If indeed the "talented amateur" scene is at Beverly, this is where I need to be! Thanks for the tip! I need to check it out on my next trip.
The women I enjoy being with the most don't work at the large factory style clubs and they certainly don't look or act like hardened hookers. And yes, I am looking for a human interaction including communication and an exchange of views on life and culture, etc..
The best examples of them I've met at Cocoon which has recently consistently delivered for me (except for my one really bad experience in May which is somewhere further down this thread) the "girl next door experience".
In January I met Eve there. She was totally natural, large tits with plans of becoming a Rechtsanwaltin but needing some pocket money. Blonde, German, 22 y. o. We sit, we talk. Her natural curiosity and intelligence is clear in the questions she asks and she has a sense of humor. She makes no motion to go the room, I just enjoy the time but her warmth sitting beside me starts to arouse me and we go off eventually.
No restrictions at all, no sense that there is any time limit at all. I go down on her and she practically begs me as she starts to come: "Finger reinstecken, bitte schoen!". She gets into as we do various positions and then she comes again. And again.
Her orgasms are non-scripted. There is none of that fake moaning.
I love it when the women enjoy their work. I find one girl like this in a club and I don't look at the rest of the selection. I booked her for two more extended sessions after that and each time it just got better and better.
When I tell her I'm returning to the club later in the year, she says she will probably not be there again as she has exams to prepare for.
Such is the nature of the "talented amateur" experience.
It is always fleeting but I am hopeful that the next time I return there I will find another woman like her.
Fats / Jackyo:
Many thanks for your replies regarding the masseuses and the massage. With reference to Sandra, the MILF masseuse on Mondays + Wednesdays + Fridays, is she available for full service or only for BBBJ? Do you do the deed in the first floor massage room itself, as an extension of the massage session, or do you take her to a room @30 minutes @EUR 50.00, just like one of the other providers there?
Please advice. Cheers!
ChicagoMan
I had a very rough day at the Messe in Düsseldorf, on my feet for more than 8 hours, and probably walked many miles. This was my last day at the Messe and I wanted to end this trip to Germany with another visit to Bernds Sauna Club.
As per the report #188 of Iseeu, I took the ICE, but from the opposite direction - from Dusseldorf to Siegburg Bonn. After much delays (What is going on with DB these days?) I arrived at Siegburg Bonn, 15 minutes late. The taxi stand is right off the south bound gleis and I promptly got into the first available taxi. The taxi driver seemed like a young teenager, who could not find either Schieferhof or Uckerather Strasse in Lichtenberg, on his navigation system. I told him to find the B8 and he found it after a long detour. B8 is actually parallel to the railway tracks, on the front side of the Siegburg Bonn station. After a bit of confusion, we arrived at "the Hof", with the taxi meter at a hefty EUR 24.00, at about 19:15.
Later on, I discovered that it would have been quicker to change to the S12 - direction Au (Sieg) from the lower level platform at Siegburg Bonn, directly to Hennef (Sieg) and then taken a taxi from there, which would have cost somewhat less, at EUR 14.00.
On arrival, I was greeted by the fabulous and legendary Babsi, who remembered that I had wanted to try a threesome with Mara, during my visit of last week, but could never find both of them, free and available, at the same time. She said she was leaving early at 22:00, that night.
I showered and was at the entry level bar, sipping at my first Coca Cola of the evening, when Monica from Hungary, gave me a warm hug. Now, I have never had a session with her before, but she had always flashed me one of her charming smiles. I was captivated by her hug and wanted to have a session with her. She is about 30 years old, a natural and soft body. We chatted, in her rather limited English, about Budapest, one of my favorite cities in Europe. This was followed in the room, by slow DFK and an excellent, sloppy BBBJ. As mentioned in earlier reports, she can really vacuum your balls and she did some light rimming using her fingernails. Very erotic. After a solid 15 minutes of BBBJ, she pressed her breasts together and tit fucked me. Altogether, this was too much stimulation for me, and I erupted prematurely. She was disappointed that I did not do a CIM, but I told her that we would do it again next time.
She did NOT do what Jackyo had complained about: the post-coital behavior of service providers in the Big-3. She then cuddled up with me and we continued our chat, from where we had left off, while she gently massaged my aching feet. It must have been more than 30 minutes from the start of our session, when she asked if I wanted to try cum one more time. But, I was too tired to try with her again. An excellent GFE experience, although the cute little mole on her upper lip kept reminding me of Austin Powers. Not very sexy!
After the cleanup and the shower, I sat in the sauna for a while. A local German guy entered and we managed to hold a limited conversation in my broken German. He highly recommended Wiago in Leverkusen, as being the second best FKK club in Germany after Bernds Sauna Club. I will try Wiago during my next visit to Germany and duly file a report on here.
It was almost 22:00 and Babsi was just leaving. She really looks like the MILF next door, with her small basket in her hand. I wanted to do a session with Rita, but she had already left by that time. Mara was free as well, but I wanted to save her for the planned threesome with Babsi.
The raven haired Tania or Tanja with her twinkling eyes, from Russia, caught my eye and we went straight to the room.
Catbath. BBBJ. DFK. Missionary. Cowgirl. Reverse cowgirl. Doggy and finally finished with a HJ. I just will say that she is one of the best here. One caveat though. She does not do CIM. But, altogether a fantastic session.
The taxi was waiting for me as I came out of the locker room and Monica was there to kiss me goodbye. The taxi dropped me off at Hennef (Sieg) bahnhof, from where I took the S12 to Koeln Hauptbahnhof, where past midnight. I had the Triple Whopper Menu at the BurgerKing. Completely satiated, in every way, I slept well to catch the early flight back home, on Friday.
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
As per the report #188 of Iseeu, I took the ICE, but from the opposite direction - from Dusseldorf to Siegburg Bonn. After much delays (What is going on with DB these days?) I arrived at Siegburg Bonn, 15 minutes late. The taxi stand is right off the south bound gleis and I promptly got into the first available taxi. The taxi driver seemed like a young teenager, who could not find either Schieferhof or Uckerather Strasse in Lichtenberg, on his navigation system. I told him to find the B8 and he found it after a long detour. B8 is actually parallel to the railway tracks, on the front side of the Siegburg Bonn station. After a bit of confusion, we arrived at "the Hof", with the taxi meter at a hefty EUR 24.00, at about 19:15.
Later on, I discovered that it would have been quicker to change to the S12 - direction Au (Sieg) from the lower level platform at Siegburg Bonn, directly to Hennef (Sieg) and then taken a taxi from there, which would have cost somewhat less, at EUR 14.00.
Good report, and glad that you were able to use the public transit route. Just some points:
*The taxi ride from Siegburg to Lichtenberg takes between 10 and 15 minutes depending on the slow moving traffic, and whether or not you catch the 3 traffic lights on the way. It costs between 22-25 Euro.
*Yes Hennef Sieg is slightly closer to Lichtenberg, so the taxi ride is less expensive, but unless you get the S-bahn right away, I doubt if it's quicker. The S-bahn runs 4-5 times an hour and if you're like me on a tight travel/mongering schedule, I prefer to spend the extra 10 Euro and have the extra time in the arms of Monica, Jessi, Princess, Katja, etc.
*It's really simple to get to the 560/8 from the Siegburg station and probably less than a kilometer. From the taxi stand near the southbound tracks, have the taxi make a U-turn. At the corner make a right. After the traffic light, go over the over pass and get on the 560 which becomes the 8.
I agree that once you're at the HOF, a BBBJ with COB on Monica's breast, is a great way to compensate yourself for a rough day at the Messe.
I was yesterday at Bernds.
13 girls were available : Michelle, Annia, Anna, Katia, Brandy, Mara, Jenny, Tania, Rita, Sandy, Marcella ... from the other 2 I don't know the name.
One was a newbie : a young russian, very thin with blond curly hair. She looks a little bit as dutch Kim from the Goldentime but she is shorter.
Here name could be "Ive" but I am not sure.
I was in bed with Tania and Anna.
Tania was good, but nothing special to mention.
Anna was fantastic. How can a so beautyfull girl fuck so good ? This is incredible.
Now she belongs the top 3 of my FKK girls.
For those who understand french, I wrote a more detailed report on www.youppie.net - Sorry but I am not enough fluent in english to translate all the details.
Excellent site in La belle langue, Stano.
I liked very much the organisation of Club and then Girls under which posts are made. Simplifies finding the data on the girls. Upon checking a few entries the reports coincided with my findings very well.
Im just back from a short trip to Dusseldorf and I met an older German guy in Club Tabulous yesterday, who claims to be a Bernd's regular, and he says that Bernd's is well known for bareback sex, and that not all women do it, but about half do.
He claims he has been having bareback sex there for 20 years or so. And he was amused when I told him him that there was doubt about it on the forum here. He then went on to say something like:
"Well you get on that forum when u go home and tell all those guys that they can get a bare fuck in Bernds if they want, its certainly no secret around here."
I not condoning or encouraging bareback in anyway, Im just writing what I was told.
I'll have more on this later....
Im just back from a short trip to Dusseldorf and I met an older German guy in Club Tabulous yesterday, who claims to be a Bernd's regular, and he says that Bernd's is well known for bareback sex, and that not all women do it, but about half do.
He claims he has been having bareback sex there for 20 years or so. And he was amused when I told him him that there was doubt about it on the forum here. He then went on to say something like:
"Well you get on that forum when u go home and tell all those guys that they can get a bare fuck in Bernds if they want, its certainly no secret around here."
I not condoning or encouraging bareback in anyway, Im just writing what I was told.
I'll have more on this later....It's funny you say that. I work with a German guy in the States who is dialed in pretty well to the sex scene in Germany and has been going to Bernds for many, many years and told me the exact same thing. About half (maybe more) girls do it there. He said it's always been that way at that club which is why he always frequents it when he goes back home. I told him bareback sex for some reason is a taboo topic on this board and he just said "it may be taboo in other countries but not in Germany."
I personally use a (super thin) condom about 55% of the time and a anti-viral lube made with carrageenan the other 45% of the time so can proudly say I'm fully protected to semi-protected 100% of the time I monger. :)
One thing should be mentioned though. I read on here that the girls who do this use a spermicidal lube for pregnancy and STD prevention. But somebody should explain to them that the spermicides actually increase the risk of HIV transmission because they are known to irritate and damage vaginal tissues and make it easier for the virus to enter the bloodstream. They are better off using a plain old water-based lube which also kills viruses without damaging sensitive tissue.
Im just back from a short trip to Dusseldorf and I met an older German guy in Club Tabulous yesterday, who claims to be a Bernd's regular, and he says that Bernd's is well known for bareback sex, and that not all women do it, but about half do.
"Well you get on that forum when u go home and tell all those guys that they can get a bare fuck in Bernds if they want, its certainly no secret around here."
I saw bareback in the upstairs lounge one time. I have no idea how often this happens in the rooms. I have never been asked if I wanted covered, it was just assumed, at least that is the way it came across to me. Maybe a regular would have some sort of working arrangement with the girl. Since I only get there a couple of times a year they don't assume anything. I was surprised when the warm-up session went so fast to full penetration bareback by the dude sitting in the corner spot. They both seemed to be in sync and like normal at Bernds, nobody even seemed to notice.
Fred, I am with you that personally bareback is not for me. This is a level of risk that I am not willing to take. Life if full of choices, each with their level of risk, and bareback is stacking the odds against you.
Just my two cents worth and what I have observed .........
.. was watching Aylin and Katja getting it on with a guy on the couch and not changing condoms while alternating penetration.
Maybe they are so in synch as a team that even their bodily fluids are in synch.
.. was watching Aylin and Katja getting it on with a guy on the couch and not changing condoms while alternating penetration.Guys,
This forum is about enjoyment. I personally do not enjoy the fkk charms when at the same time I have a nagging thought of getting infected with some nasty stuff. I had that happen to me before, and believe me, it's not worth it. I understand, we are all grown up and to each his own, but in the interest of the community, I would never speak of bareback sex in a positive sense.
The FKK world is a setup worth supporting in our respective countries (is it ever possible to introduce in North America?), but one of the arguments is to make it safe for the providers and clients as well.
Im just back from a short trip to Dusseldorf and I met an older German guy in Club Tabulous yesterday, who claims to be a Bernd's regular, and he says that Bernd's is well known for bareback sex, and that not all women do it, but about half do.
He claims he has been having bareback sex there for 20 years or so. And he was amused when I told him him that there was doubt about it on the forum here. He then went on to say something like:
"Well you get on that forum when u go home and tell all those guys that they can get a bare fuck in Bernds if they want, its certainly no secret around here."
I not condoning or encouraging bareback in anyway, Im just writing what I was told.
I'll have more on this later....
Here is the full conversation with this guy
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=537657&postcount=1823
With all this talk of BBFS, how about a BBBJ? I was at the Hof on Friday, Dec 1st, and went with Katja from Russia. First, a little backround info. The woman at the front desk told me there were only ten woman and many men when I arrived. She said that 5 more might come later but I think only three more did. At one point there were 12 men and zero woman upstairs. There was no couch action as the couches were full of men and guys would grab girls the minute they came out of a room. A small group was actually turned away as the club was "full." In this atmosphere, I went with Katja. Everything was as a usual session until the BJ. She rolled over across me so her back was facing me and then gave me a CBJ like I wouldn't notice! WTF?
I also went with Mara, who was excellent as always, and another girl who's name I can't remember who was also very good. She said she was from Bonn and has a birthmark over her lip. As the song goes, two out of three ain't bad, but a CBJ was the last thing I was expecting at Bernd's.
and another girl who's name I can't remember who was also very good. She said she was from Bonn and has a birthmark over her lip.
Monica from Hungary. Great smile.
With all this talk of BBFS, how about a BBBJ? I was at the Hof on Friday, Dec 1st, and went with Katja from Russia... Everything was as a usual session until the BJ. She rolled over across me so her back was facing me and then gave me a CBJ like I wouldn't notice! WTF?
As the song goes, two out of three ain't bad, but a CBJ was the last thing I was expecting at Bernd's.
but still this is extreme as she has probably done more than 10,000 BJ's in her professional career and not to be expected unless she had a reason for it. You could have stopped her, and asked for ohne gummi.
I have to agree with FATS. That Friday at Bernds was a washout. I haven't been there for a couple of years or more. None of the girls was that interested in doing anything much above flirting, drinking and lounging on the sofa. It took a great deal of will power to stay longer than an hour: and a great number of confused and sad looking men no doubt thinking the same as myself. I am prepared to but this down to 'Friday night blues' as by the end of the week the girls have made their money and simply want to hobnob with their 'stammgaeste'. Couch action was robotic. Indeed catching sight of one girl's glazed eyes as she mechanically rubbed her tits in a guests face, that was the moment I should have cut my losses. I remember a different Bernds to this, almost came over all nostalgic for those days of yore! A tear in the eye, which was certainly the only drop I spilt that evening. On the German boards Bernds has had a bad press recently.
I have to agree with FATS. That Friday at Bernds was a washout. I haven't been there for a couple of years or more. None of the girls was that interested in doing anything much above flirting, drinking and lounging on the sofa. It took a great deal of will power to stay longer than an hour: and a great number of confused and sad looking men no doubt thinking the same as myself. I am prepared to but this down to 'Friday night blues' as by the end of the week the girls have made their money and simply want to hobnob with their 'stammgaeste'. Couch action was robotic. Indeed catching sight of one girl's glazed eyes as she mechanically rubbed her tits in a guests face, that was the moment I should have cut my losses. I remember a different Bernds to this, almost came over all nostalgic for those days of yore! A tear in the eye, which was certainly the only drop I spilt that evening. On the German boards Bernds has had a bad press recently.
Jacko:
This is a good post so that the place doesn't get over-run by us deutsch non-spreching foriegners, Ja? ;-)
but still this is extreme as she has probably done more than 10,000 BJ's in her professional career and not to be expected unless she had a reason for it. You could have stopped her, and asked for ohne gummi.
This is very odd. I suspect she is doing you a favor. She might have something wrong with her gums or teeth. Doing a CBJ is one way to cut down on the transmission of diseases. There is no way a girl who normally does BBBJ would choose an alternative without a reason if you are clean. For all we know, she might have some transmissible disease.
Jacko:
This is a good post so that the place doesn't get over-run by us deutsch non-spreching foriegners, Ja? ;-)
I know of which Marlow speaks as I've been reading these reports too.
I don't know what their visitors statistics are these days but it is a small club and its finely tuned ambiance is dependent on a certain dynamic between the women and the clients.
I was also there on Friday Dec 1. I can only agree with the previous posts, it was a strange atmosphere. I have been there at least once a month for the last 10 months, but usually on Mondays or Tuesdays. It has been great every time, sometimes slow, but then slow in number of guests, never concerning number of girls. This Friday, it was really the lack of female providers that was the problem.
Since we are approaching Christmas Time, I guess it will only be worse. I've heard that many of the regular girls will take a break during that period. I just wonder how long that break will be.
Generally I would say from experience that the slack period in clubs runs through December until mid jan
Mind Snatcher
12-08-06, 17:20
Had my first visit to Bernd’s on Thursday (30th November). When I arrived at 8 pm (after a frustrating search fo rthe place), the little girl at the door was quire unfriendly. Where had I parked? By the fence. Falsch!! I had to go back and negotiate my way into the car park up the road, which was quite full. At Bernd’s there were maybe 15 girls, but several left at around 9 pm and by 11, when things tend to start to hot up elsewhere, there were only a handful and they seemed eager to get home. Still, I had three useful sessions, with Anna (Poland), Tanya (Ukraine), and Mara (Holland). Anna struck me as the most attractive and we got on well. There was another across the room (Leila?) which looked appealing, but she spent all the time sucking the dick of this guy who looked like a shrivelled-up prune so I didn’t fancy her after that. The real star was, of course, Mara, with whom I spent 54 minutes from preliminaries on the couch to when she handed me my towel and sent me off to the shower. Wonderfully translucent skin and a real star in every respect – especially the ‘deep throat’ effect. Good conversation, too, which can’t always be said of the east Europeans. I was expecting to be charged for a double session as would have happened anywhere else, but no – the cost for 3 women, good food, three beers (my limit when driving) was 220 euros. Yes it is cramped and there are not all that many ladies to choose from. Marchella, my first choice, turned out to have a kind of rash on her tummy which put me off but no one else seemed to mind.
The real star was, of course, Mara. (..) Good conversation, too, which can’t always be said of the east Europeans.
Mara is not east european. She is from Rotterdam ... in the Netherlands.
Mara is not east european. She is from Rotterdam ... in the Netherlands.
Her German is very good but she does have a slight accent.
I've met a couple of Dutch women in my travels. I can think of one who I met at Babylon and another one who used to work at Atlantis.
In general they have not been very good, mostly too professional.
Mara is an exception to this rule.
The only Dutch girl I can remember from Atlantis was Jessica/Sabrina. She used both names rather interchangeably. She moved to the Palace after Atlantis closed but I haven't seen her recently. Heard she was working at the Colosseum in Augsburg but I've never been there so who knows. She was also from Rotterdam and was always a sweet girl next door type, not the least bit professional. In fact, about the only way to get her to stop talking was to stick your tongue or dick in her mouth, a little bit too GFE!
... across the border in Holland that the Dutch girls there think its beneath them to do certain things and so exhibit kind of an attitude.
I've never been so I can't confirm.
What I can confirm is that though Amsterdam has this reputation for paid sex it is the absolute pits.
The women go through an upsell process which will drive you nuts.
Hollandmale
12-09-06, 10:49
... across the border in Holland that the Dutch girls there think its beneath them to do certain things and so exhibit kind of an attitude.If you can find any Dutch girls at all in YinYang, because the vast majority are German and Eastern-European.
Mind Snatcher
12-09-06, 22:41
Mara is not east european. She is from Rotterdam ... in the Netherlands.
Did I say Mara was east European? I thought I said or implied that she has good conversation, IN CONTRAST to the east European girls at this particular venue on this particular occasion. On an almost totally unrelated theme, I rode the train from Amsterdam to Brussels the other day and before reaching Brussels North it goes alongside one of the window-shopping streets. The girls just stand there in their lingerie and wave or blow kisses at the passing trains. Bizarre!
Went back there to see if matters have improved. The good things is the friendliness, which is something you don't get that much of in other clubs. This counts for a lot as there us nothing worse than boredom setting in. (Yeah, me and my jaded palette) I had a couple of good sessions with a bouncy redhead whose name escapes me. Loved her fur boots and told her to keep them on. Otherwise Bernds gets more and more like a body snatchers holding point. Some of these Germans look as if they are lucky if they make home afterwards.
Went back there to see if matters have improved. The good things is the friendliness, which is something you don't get that much of in other clubs. This counts for a lot as there us nothing worse than boredom setting in. (Yeah, me and my jaded palette) I had a couple of good sessions with a bouncy redhead whose name escapes me. Loved her fur boots and told her to keep them on. Otherwise Bernds gets more and more like a body snatchers holding point. Some of these Germans look as if they are lucky if they make home afterwards.
The last time I was there one of the guys was dressing to go home but couldn't find one shoe. Kind of difficult to explain to the wife why one left with two shoes but returned with one.
Anyway, the Thekenfrau comes in and asks those of us who aren't busy with partners if we knew anything about his shoe. Some of us file into the dressing room and we have this lively discussion about what might have happened.
She stops this guy who had just come out of the shower (he had just arrived) if might have any ideas. He was, as most of the guys there are, older, a little befuddled and he had these Coke bottle glasses. He offers to check his locker.. and sure enough, in his confusion while undressing he had stuffed the other guys shoe into his locker (he must have taken off his glasses).
Everyone had a good laugh.
Problem solved!
I have read numerous reports on the RF about guys losing their shoes, I should mention. Lock them up in a locker. Don't leave them outside.
Kingwenslas
12-12-06, 19:28
Following my not-so-enjoyable visit to Oase on the previous day, I decided to treat myself to a Bernd’s visit. As ever, I had a fantastic time.
I had two things on my “to do” list. Firstly, when I last met him, Hollandmale had insisted that I try an erotic massage, provided that one visits on a Monday, Wednesday or Friday. Secondly, I had regretted not trying out Marcella on my last visit and so she was a priority this time.
I was also vaguely interested in meeting Trixie, having read about her on postings earlier this year, but the bar girl downstairs (gothic looking type) told me that she had left for good, about two months ago.
I arrived late afternoon and there were quite a few younger guys there compared to normal and it did not look like there were so many girls, but most were occupied. Apparently the average age of the clients drops from over 50 to under 40 on Friday evenings.
I saw that Marcella was available but could not sit next to her due to too many blokes being on the sofas. All I had to do was literally wink at her and she immediately started gathering her belongings together and followed me straight to one of the rooms. The sex was incredible (as expected) and what a contrast to the previous day’s visit to Oase! For example, whilst taking her in the missionary position she would look and me and kiss me, whilst wrapping her legs around me, unlike the girls at Oase who would always look away and not kiss.
Next up was my massage with Sandra. She’s quite thin with small boobs and so not really the type that I would normally pick. She started off with a conventional massage but then started rubbing my cock and balls. We had a bit of a chat and she really came across as wanting to please me, and apologised for having the taste of Champagne on her breath. She pecked me on the lips in a slightly embarrassed way, like a young girlfriend, and then started to give me the most professional blowjob you could imagine (I suppose unlike a young girlfriend). This was good, but I decided not to come, in order to save myself for my next session.
Anna was my next. As I think I said in a previous post, she really has come along nicely since joining Bernd’s, and now, if my mood is right, I think she is consistently as good as Brandy. Maybe next time I will try a double with Anna and Marcella.
I’ve noticed that my reports about Bernd’s Club are tending to become a little repetitive, as it is consistently the best club I know, but long may it continue!
Kingwenslas
Kw,
Good to see you had a good time on a Friday as I left empty handed the Friday before to take my heaving load elsewhere. I think I will stick to non-Friday visits though as it sounds like it was pretty busy when you were there.
C1
I have read numerous reports on the RF about guys losing their shoes, I should mention. Lock them up in a locker. Don't leave them outside.
I have witnesses shoe snatching! Several guys always had their shoes on top of the lockers in Atlantis. While I was getting undressed, I saw some guy come into the locker room, take a pair of shoes off the top of one of the lockers, walk over to the big window, open the window, throw the shoes out, and close the window again.
I suppose he thought that was funny, but imagine the guy who owned the shoes when he discovers they are missing. THAT is the definition of the onset of panic!
I was close to the same feeling when I took one of those rental Smart cars and could not get in started in the Atlantis parking lot. The darn ADAC had to come and help me. The guy just could not stop smirking.
Ok, for me it was just a rental car in a foreign country. But imagine this happens to you as a German, possibly from the same town, who just went over for a quickie, and his wife Waltraut is waiting for him at home. The guy from the ADAC is probably in the same Kegelclub and recognizes him ... Could be interesting.
Loved her fur boots and told her to keep them on.
Thanks Marlow, just envisioning that scene gave me the laugh of today..
I have witnesses shoe snatching! Several guys always had their shoes on top of the lockers in Atlantis. While I was getting undressed, I saw some guy come into the locker room, take a pair of shoes off the top of one of the lockers, walk over to the big window, open the window, throw the shoes out, and close the window again.
I suppose he thought that was funny, but imagine the guy who owned the shoes when he discovers they are missing. THAT is the definition of the onset of panic!
... as I can picture that Atlantis locker room and those windows which you could indeed open and throw objects out of.
That place was kind of the start of the arms race with the over the top facilities: the pool, the sauna and steambath.
I also remember clearly meeting an American woman who worked there.
I was sitting on one of those couches in the middle section and she comes by from behind and starts running her hand through my hair. She spoke German but she had an accent. And then I realized she was an American and she realized I spoke English too. That was a genuine surprise. I forget her name though.
The last time I was there was in the fall of 03 and it was clear that something was in the air and it was going through the tubes.
The selection was awful. You know when a club is on its way out when the Thekenfrau, who is the only one who is fully dressed, makes you turn your head every time she walks by to pick up empty glasses and to clean ashtrays.
[QUOTE=Marlow]I had a couple of good sessions with a bouncy redhead whose name escapes me. Loved her fur boots and told her to keep them on. QUOTE]
..would be Mina, she of the pierced upper lip
if you pronounce her name in english it is also the same name given to an indian bird that mimics human speech to an uncanny degree. mina certainly never stopped talking, but then she says the greatest things. if you like athletic not in the flo jo sense but the stripped down racer then mina with her small breasts (okay non-existent!) lithe legs and flat board of a stomach is the girlie for you.
Alejandro66
12-14-06, 23:01
Has anyone info if there is beer available at Bernd's fkk?
I know it's possible to have a beer or Champagne at the Palace but I would like to pay a visit to Bernd's and I want to be sure.
Thanks in advance!
Alex
Has anyone info if there is beer available at Bernd's fkk?
I know it's possible to have a beer or Champagne at the Palace but I would like to pay a visit to Bernd's and I want to be sure.
Thanks in advance!
Alex
Of course, beer is available at Bernds
Alejandro66
12-14-06, 23:30
Thanks Stano!
Alex
I don't want to be a downer but........I have seen more times than I thought necessary at Bernds late in the evening, men slumped over asleep. Why? they are dead drunk. A sex club is not really the place for winos to kip. It is an embarrassment to see the girls eventually drag a guy to his feet and help him out of the door to the taxi they ordered for him. would advise keeping the sex content high and the booze intake low.
5th visit in 4 months, qualifies me as a regular, and even the women that I've never "done" greet me like I'm a long-lost lover. Sadly, this is my last trip to DE until long after the holidays, and my Bernd's longing will have to wait awhile.The Caribbean Princess even asked me why it took me 3 weeks to come back when I had said that I would be back in 2 weeks.
Full lineup at hand: Agatha, Anna, Babsi, Ina, Janey, Jessi, Katja, Leila, Marcella, Mara, Michelle, Mina, Nina, Patrizia (new girl introduced that night; black hair, medium build, 32B, sat with her legs closed and covered by towel most of the time), Princess, Rita, Sabrina, Sandi, Svinja, Tanya, Tatiana and a tall, skinny, 40-ish woman whom I have not seen before.
Began with Janey who is sweet and shy, followed by a long session with Leila, who is amazingly wild and sexy, and a 2 hour session with Princess which was mind-boggling and life-changing and left me totally wiped out. I had brought her a small pocket rocket vibrator for Xmas and it was a big hit, so much so that in the midst of my session with Princess in the room just off the locker room whose door doesn't lock, we were making so much noise that we had a steady stream of women visitors, some who stayed for awhile. Good thing that I had a long flight to the Middle East that night.
4 observations:
1) In light of the recent discussion here re Creampie- I did some onsite research and asked 5 of the women including 2 with whom I am friendly with and who are really honest with me, and they said that if it happened it is on girl's perogative and only with a long-time regular. It's not on the menu and probably only on offer with the long-time operatives.
2) Sitting on the couch upstairs cuddling with Princess with Marcella on my right and Svinja to her right, this large, fat, 70 year old guy comes and sits between Marcella and svinja, and begins the Bernd's couch dance with Svinja. About 10 minutes pass and he invites Marcella to join from the other side. The 3 of them go off to the room. Later Marcella stops in to visit Princess and I in the midst of our session (damn that unlockable door) and when we asked how the session with the older fat guy was and did he manage to pop, she tells us that the guy came twice. As Marlow has pointed out - the elixir of life is in the wasser mit gaz at Bernd's.
3) The Movie of the Day featured on the upstairs screen was a "Day of the Dildo" No, actually it was showing a bunch of guys visting a Sauna Club. I was in the middle of talking with Janey and Jessi when I glanced at the screen and recognized the room that they were filming in. Unfortunately, I have been in too many clubs to remember where it was. When the scene changed they showed the entrance to Park Schloss Dali, which I last visited about 4 years ago. Surreal scene- sitting in FKK, surrounded by naked FKK women, and watching a movie filmed at a competing FKK.
4) Met a Canadian guy and his German colleague- The Canadian said that they had been at Calligula but left because the entrance fee was 175 Euro and each session afterwards was 75 Euro. Can that be?
Luckily, I'll have many Kodak moments to revert back to over the next few weeks, dreaming of a Bernd's Christmas.
Of course, beer is available at BerndsBottles of the very excellent Koln brewed,Fruh Kolsch are available in Bernds, but has been stated, beer and fkk clubs,dont really go together.
4) Met a Canadian guy and his German colleague- The Canadian said that they had been at Calligula but left because the entrance fee was 175 Euro and each session afterwards was 75 Euro. Can that be?
That scene of watching a video of another FKK club while sitting in another one (and not just any club but one of the best in the country) is just totally surreal. How were the video's production values?
Let me do some research on Calygula (down the road literally from Bernds) and its current Eintrittpreispolitik.
Last I checked on the RF it had been renamed Steffis Waldsauna.
that scene of watching a video of another fkk club while sitting in another one (and not just any club but one of the best in the country) is just totally surreal. how were the video's production values?
production values? how the f*ck would i know? it was hard enough to concentrate on getting my words straight with janey and jessi draped over me and you want me to comment on plot, lighting, and continuity? it was not a reality show - the mongers were actors (one of the men i've seen on alot of fkk kino screens) as were the sp, who by the way were fully clothed in the lounge area. also in the lounge, they only showed 1x1 interaction so there was no view of the full lounge area with a bunch of guys checking out the merchandise and women walking around shaking their goods.
still i wonder if bernd's management knew that they were showing a promotion for a competing club.
btw, according to a marlow report on another thread, the entry at steffi's is actually 25euro, while the sessions are 75 euro. if steffi's has eye candy like the canadian guy said that it does, it may make sense to stop in next time.
I’ve noticed that my reports about Bernd’s Club are tending to become a little repetitive, as it is consistently the best club I know, but long may it continue!
Kingwenslas
Just saw this great report of yours, and I have noticed the same about my Bernds' reports. The quandary - report or not report after each visit. To avoid the repetitive "did that again", I only report when something out of the ordinary occurs or there is a change from a club's normative state for better or for worse.
I also share in your salutation - Long may Bernd's maintain its consistency!
production values? how the f*ck would i know? it was hard enough to concentrate on getting my words straight with janey and jessi draped over me and you want me to comment on plot, lighting, and continuity? it was not a reality show - the mongers were actors (one of the men i've seen on alot of fkk kino screens) as were the sp, who by the way were fully clothed in the lounge area. also in the lounge, they only showed 1x1 interaction so there was no view of the full lounge area with a bunch of guys checking out the merchandise and women walking around shaking their goods.
i only asked because i know i wouldn't have been able concentrate either... as a girlfriend puts it to me, i am one of those guys who can only do one thing at a time.
as she never ceases to remind me, women are the superior sex as a) they can multi-task, b) they are multi-orgasmic.
man, i need to get out there soon...
Alejandro66
12-19-06, 10:46
Is anybody going tomorrow (Thursday, 21th) to Bernd's.
I will be there from 2.00 PM...
I hope to meet someone from ISG.info!
Regards
Alex
Soldier Boy
01-16-07, 15:30
Hiya Gents,
I am 90% certain to be in the 'Hof' tomorrow - Wednesday 17 January 2007 - between 3pm and 9pm (ish). If any members are in say hello - I will be the English guy with the 'military' style haircut and a tattoo of a famous English football team on my upper right arm.
I haven't been to Bernds for a month or so now - has anyone been since Xmas? What is the line up like at present?
I'm also looking to have a bit of 'Anal' with one of the girls - do any regulars know which of the Hof girls provide this service and any recommendations?
For the record I have been to the Hof 3 times now - on my first visit bumped into King Wenslas and Cunning1 and we had a good chat and drink - my favourite girls there (in no particular order) are:
* Princess.
* Mara.
* Martella.
* Svenja.
All of the above give a 1st class service!! :-)
Bis Spater,
Soldier Boy
Nick The G
01-16-07, 21:03
I'm also looking to have a bit of 'Anal' with one of the girls - do any regulars know which of the Hof girls provide this service and any recommendations?
If you already have been with the dutch Mara, try her again on this topic.
Otherwise, Soldier Boy, take viagra blue, drink redbull and go for an exhausting ride with Brandy over the Hof battlegrounds!
Hiya Gents,
I am 90% certain to be in the 'Hof' tomorrow - Wednesday 17 January 2007 - between 3pm and 9pm (ish).Bis Spater,
Soldier Boy
Well Soldier Boy, I'm 100% certain to be in the 'Hof' tomorrow - Wednesday 17th. I'll say hello and I guess we had better be prepared for a thorough "short arm" inspection from the ladies.
This was the 4th club that I visited during a 3 day trip to NRW and FRA. I visited Cocoon and Beverly the previous day and Steffi's Waldsauna on my way to Bernd's.
Bernd's has become my home club, which is not easy living in Florida, but I've been back now 6 times since the summer, and I feel a little like Norm in Cheers - everyone knows my name...
Lineup was still suffering from holiday vacationers: Agatha, Bianca (new girl), Brandy, Didem, Ina, Janey, Katja, Lina, Mara, Michaela, Michelle, Nina, Princess, Rita, Sabrina, Svinja, Tanya, Tatiana+ the Sandra the masseuse. Princess, my regular girl these last few months, was really busy all day and night but we arranged that we would meet for the last sessions of the day.
I specifically planned a Weds. visit to be able to enjoy Sandra, the erotic masseuse. Skinny, 30-something blonde with A- cups. In the massage room she takes off her top and give the back massage topless, climbing on the table, paying attention to the ass and perineum. On the flip side she turns her attention to iseeu jr., and begins a great BBBJ while encouraging fingering her beautiful pussy. I believed that it would end right there with CIM, but she climbed right on the table and brought her sopping pussy over my face while continuing the BBBJ. After a while, she asks if I want CIM or in her muschi with gummi. I chose the latter and she rode me reverse cowgirl right there on the table. Amazing, hot experience with a really sweet person.
After a sauna and relaxing, I asked Didem to join me. She's been in the club for a few months now, but this is the first time that were there at the same time. Well- porportioned, dirty blonde hair in pigtail, nice smile, B-cups. We talked first at the downstairs bar, then moved to the small downstairs couch. One thing led to another and after clearing the other people off of the couch we ended up going at it right there on the couch, cowgirl and then doggie style with everyone downstairs enjoying the show. For the cumshot, I pulled out, she ripped the condom off and took me in her mouth, taking every drop...Wow, right there on the couch
There was a group of 5 guys- 3 French and 2 from Germany who were having a great time ordering champagne and laughing amongst themselves. After dinnertime they took a new bottle of champagne and 4 women (Sabrina, Brandy, Bianca and Princess) into the kino room. Eventually, with Brandy and Sabrina on the bed servicing 3 of the guys and Princess and Bianca on the facing couch with the 2 others and everyone in the downstairs avidly watching through the window, a group orgy developed with Brandy superstar getting anal and screaming her lungs out. What a show and it sure beat the lame movie (Yes, the same one that was filmed in Park Schloss Dali )on the screen over their heads. began Bianca the new girl, was sitting very primly on the couch and watching when Princess, sunk down onto her knees and to rug munch. Eventually, Bianca asked to move with the guy that she was servicing into a private room.
It was such a hot scene that everyone was standing and watching through the window and commenting on particular acts/positions. A very overweight German guy was so affected that he asked Didem to jerk him off while they watched. To get a better angle, they just walked into the kino and made place for themselves on the couch.
Brandy and Sabrina ended up spending the entire evening and night with those guys.
Managed to get some time with Mara, who I have not been with in many months. Terrific intelligent, sexy woman who is always busy and has I believe become the biggest money maker at the Hof. Great active session, she gives an awesome Bj and rimming and afterwards she quizzed me at length about the little toy that I brought last time for Princess. I think that she was jealous...
Met a monger who lives in Germany and reads both RF and ISG. He gets to a lot of clubs as he works around Germany, but doen't report, although he has read our reports about Hof and other clubs.
Patience finally paid off and Princess and I spent the last 1.5 hours exploiting the last frontiers... She is amazing, hot wild, fun, adventurous, fabulous ass, breasts, eyes and muschi and a great, smart person besides.
In comparing Bernd's with 2 other "small" FKK clubs, that I visited this week i.e. Cocoon and Steffi's, it's clear that there's something special happening there that the other clubs can only hope to achieve. That orgy scene in the kino with Brandy and Sabrina screams was unforgettable and a scene like this could never happen in any other FKK- only Bernd's. I love this place...
To Iseeu
When the big hitters come to town all the girls love it.....so what was the damage financially?
To Iseeu
When the big hitters come to town all the girls love it.....so what was the damage financially?
in my mental health not financial damage.
Entry: 70 Euro
At Exit: 275 Euro calculated as 75 for Sandra (massage + session), 50 for Didem, 50 for Mara and 100 for Princess.
Best investment that I can think of.
njoy.
Gameless Dork
01-18-07, 00:59
Hiya Gents,
I am 90% certain to be in the 'Hof' tomorrow - Wednesday 17 January 2007 - between 3pm and 9pm (ish). If any members are in say hello - I will be the English guy with the 'military' style haircut and a tattoo of a famous English football team on my upper right arm.
I haven't been to Bernds for a month or so now - has anyone been since Xmas? What is the line up like at present?
I'm also looking to have a bit of 'Anal' with one of the girls - do any regulars know which of the Hof girls provide this service and any recommendations?
For the record I have been to the Hof 3 times now - on my first visit bumped into King Wenslas and Cunning1 and we had a good chat and drink - my favourite girls there (in no particular order) are:
* Princess.
* Mara.
* Martella.
* Svenja.
All of the above give a 1st class service!! :-)
Bis Spater,
Soldier BoyHey, it's the American smoker from Wednesday night at Bernds! Who was your last session with? The drive back kinda was shitty, it rained the entire way but at least no fog!
You are SO lucky you live in Europe. Will you adopt me?
Hollandmale
01-18-07, 11:52
Last Tuesday I visited Bernds with a dozen fellow Dutch/Flemish local forum members. Attending 16 girls: Rita, Brandy, Monica, Leila, Michelle, Mara, Katja, Jenny, Agatha, Princess, Marcella, Tatjana and (quite) new girls Didem, Bianca, Patrizia and Michaela.
For a Tuesday it was pretty busy, especially from 4 till 8 PM, but over the day we all had our sessions with the girls we preferred.
I had 2 excellent sessions, with Princess in the afternoon and Didem at night:
Princess: African-French, brownish curly long hair, 23, 5.3/1.60, body size-2/34, C-silicones, speaks English/German/French.
Service: super DFK, DATY, tight IC, super BBBJ, DT and CIM. No doubt that Princess ranks among the very best girls at Bernds ;).
Didem: German-Turkish, blonde hair in pony tail, 22, 5.7/1.70, body size 4/36, B-cups, speaks German and some English.
Service: super DFK, DATY, tight IC, super BBBJ, DT and CIM. Didem is fairly new at Bernds but already ranks among the top girls :).
Some friends had excellent sessions with Marcella: Czech, brown hair, 24, 5.5/1.65, body size 4-6/38, C-cups, speaks German.
Service: super DFK, DATY, IC, super BBBJ, DT and CIM. Very outgoing and spontaneous, Marcella's service is in high demand ;).
I also heard good reports about fairly new girls Tatjana, Bianca and Michaela.
Most other attending girls are already well described on this forum.
Gameless, how about posting your experiences at Bernds. Quoting an entire post just to say "hey its me" doesnt help anyone on this board.
Twelve dutchmen in Bernds at once! This give a whole new meaning to the phrase 'going Dutch'! You must have given all those aged German businessmen who totter around Bernds as if they own the place a terrible shock. Glad someone has shown the indiginous race what enjoyment really means.
Gameless Dork
01-19-07, 18:57
Was actually directed for soldierboy.
Gameless, how about posting your experiences at Bernds. Quoting an entire post just to say "hey its me" doesnt help anyone on this board.
If you would share your newbie perspective from your posting on MERB, we'd all be interested.
Yes, I post there and post here too.
Arrived at the Hof on Wednesday which I assume was clean-up day after the Orange horde from Holland swept through.
Must have been chaos as the damage report included: Marcella absent -"too tired" said Connie, Agatha absent - AWOL said an unhappy Connie - we don't know where she is. Babsi behind the bar in civilian clothes for a couple of hours after visiting an eye Doctor who advised her not to work - "had something poke her in the eye" and was having Laser treatment :-)) Missing from the ISG line-up was Ortos who was caught up in servicing the FKK girls in Frankfurt and so was given a pass. Next time Mr. O.
It was Mara's birthday - so she had a light day of drinking and socialising rather than working too much - enjoyed a number of gifts form the girls and guests. Left early at 8:00 for a birthday dinner. She too was on my first time to do list - but in the Birthday spirit we chatted during the afternoon and we agreed that we would consumate our relationship on a later date - what a gentleman I am.
Marcella and Babsi were also on my first time to do list - so that blew those two off - thanks Holland !!!
I will report a bit later on my visit which was successful in clearing away the new year cobwebs. Nice to meet some other ISG'ers - Soldier Boy, Clomonger - who flew in that day from Western USA and still managed to perform himself up to Hof and ISG standards - well done, and the now named Gameless Dork. Great afternoon/evening Gentlemen. We had enough for an English table and all enjoyed themslves. I have told Soldier Boy that I would not write too much on the day and so encouraged him to do a FR - he too enjoyed himself very much.
Did I mention his wish to finish the evening by taking me along for a session of Double Penetration with the lovely Jenny ? It is nice that ISG'ers are not perverts.
Main actor for me was the lovely Anja who was also on my first time to do list. Outstanding multiple sessions with her and little Excess was totally drained and showed signs of wear and tear from the very aggressive and reciprocated sex that he got up to with Anja. Followed by Michaella and Patricia to complete the day's dance card.
The birthday drinks began to kick-in early evening and Brandi proceeded to carry on again and posted new highs even for her of delightfully disgraceful behaviour. Think further BBBJs, Anal Rimming and doing Princess on the couches, having a guest up on the top of the couches screaming for more from Brandi blowing him until his forehead nearly caved in alternating with Princess who the guest called in to reinforce Brandi, then instructing Brandi and Pricess to alternate DFK with each other ( he didn't have to ask Brandi twice), then BBBJ on him and DFK on him. The Trooper finally limped off with both Brandi and Princess in tow to a room for more of the same Troika. An early candidate for the ISG Ironman of the year Award.
Later, Tatiana calling everyone over to observe Brandi with a guest through the window doing a torrid licking and rimming session both ways on the couch in the room with Brandi totally upside down on his lap while grazing herself from below - prearranged by Brandy with Tatiana of course who knew it was going to be a memorable session and wanted witnesses to the fact.
As well Svenja during a good session with one of our little band got into a discussion about the elderly gentlemen who seem to frequent the 'Hof. Svenja proudly said that the oldest guest that she had serviced and who popped was ... wait for it.... 91 years young!!! Gott love that Boy. Who says that there isn't a Fountain of Youth ? It is in the cellar at Bernd's.
Another Ho-Hum day at the Hof.
God knows what it would have been like if the Holland Battalion had not blitzed the girls before hand and slowed things down.
Later.
Gameless Dork
01-20-07, 17:08
If you would share your newbie perspective from your posting on MERB, we'd all be interested.
Yes, I post there and post here too.Well, I went on Monday and Wednesday of the past week. Was very shocking at first. My first choice was Meena, she's very attractive, but she was a bad decision for my first. She wasn't very accepting of me as a newbie, and asked "why are you even here? ", and that was a pretty negative experience. I then sat next to Jenny next, and we spoke for a little bit, in german/english. Had a great session with her. She's so tiny. My third and last session on Monday was with Princess. She was great too.
I took Tuesday off, then came back on Wednesday. I immediately saw Jenny and talked to her again, but entirely in German this time. I think we were talking about greek food and how I've never had fish before. We had a session because I had enjoyed her a lot. When I had finished, she kept on saying "wettbewerb" which if my recollection from school is right, she was meaning to say that I won a competition of. Err. You know. I just give my apologies to anyone else who used the bed later.
On Monday I had wanted to see Mara and Svenya, but they were always Busy. It was Mara's be-day on Wednesday, and Soldierboy was there and we had been talking for a while and I told him how I wanted to see her, but I was kinda shy and she was always busy. But he told her I wanted to talk to her. Ironic, because she spoke English, that I didn't have as much to say to her. I kind of have an easier time with a language barrier. Anyways, had a really nice session with her. I hope she had a nice be-day dinner, I felt kinda bad that she was there on her birthday. That's not a way I would want to spend my birthday if I were female.
I then wanted to see Svenya, but she was always talking to some guy, and he was sitting close to her on the couch. But I couldn't tell if she was engaged with him or just talking, so I asked in german if she was free, and she said yes, that she was just having a conversation. I think Svenya was the only one I made out with on the couch. She's a great kisser. Had a really nice session with her, and we only spoke german, well, I more or less tried, and was talking to her about soup, and we both like the same kind.
I'm not at all sure who is my favorite, they all have such great attributes.
Things were in full operation on Friday. Babsi was absent and I was wondering about her being gone. The day started off good with a reasonable number of guests.
I got a very nice massage (massage only) from ____ (and I hate to admit, I forgot her name). She has nicely fixed up brown hair with a nice smile, a student in Koeln so working just three days per week. The massage was 25€. She spoke reasonable english. I didn't ask her if she did FS.
There were a couple of new girls there. One girl about 20-22 with a fantastic figure. Sat all day on the upstairs couch and stared at the floor. A couple of times she got up to welcome someone but the rest of the day she just sat. I felt so sorry for her that I was tempted to talk to her. My German is not up to starting a conversation so she just sat.
I went twice with Monica from Hungary. She was fantastic as always. We had some great sessions last summer and these were even better.
Now that I find out about the Dutch attack on Hof I can understand why the bar lady upstairs was so gruff. She might have thought I was Dutch. I just assumed that she was alway mad.
By about 19:00 the crowd had grown to almost standing room only. This place does have a special atmosphere. Must be the combination of dingy carpet, dingy sofas, cramped quarters and FANTASTIC SERVICE from the girls. They all seem to get along well and keep the place exciting.
Hollandmale
01-21-07, 08:45
God knows what it would have been like if the Holland Battalion had not blitzed the girls before hand and slowed things down.Oops, didn't know the impact was that big ;).
Babsi wasn't present that Tuesday, so something else must have poked her in the eye ;).
Without mentioning names the German boards have remarked that the new girl at Bernds has not, to put it politely, learned the ropes. Bernds is a tough competitive place to work for a girl and trying to get away with 'sex-lite' which a girl can do at other FKK clubs is impossible at Bernds. I doubt that the newbie will stay much longer if she finds the Bernds way of doing things too much of a challenge. The management were so knocked over by the Dutch (or pissed!) that the legend now grows to there being not a dozen but 18 of them. But then the Dutch have a lot of practice at playtime - have you seen how short their working day is?!
. The management were so knocked over by the Dutch (or pissed!) that the legend now grows to there being not a dozen but 18 of them. But then the Dutch have a lot of practice at playtime - have you seen how short their working day is?!
Marlow, dont quite follow what your getting at.
Without mentioning names the German boards have remarked that the new girl at Bernds has not, to put it politely, learned the ropes. Bernds is a tough competitive place to work for a girl and trying to get away with 'sex-lite' which a girl can do at other FKK clubs is impossible at Bernds. I doubt that the newbie will stay much longer if she finds the Bernds way of doing things too much of a challenge.
During the orgy that I witnessed, the new girl Bianca, was one of the girls in the room. While all hell was going on around her, across from her and next to her, she just sat there with her legs crossed, hands in her lap, not even touching the guy she was supposedly entertaining. At some point, Princess was goaded and began going down on her, but that didn't seem to melt the ice either. Eventually, she stood up and went with her charge into a more private room.
I can imagine that going into the Bernd's environment as a new employee, without a strong streak of nymphomania, or previous FKK experience, is probably disconcerting. In the last 6 months, I've seen 6 or 7 new women introduced; Diana, Lina, Didem, Patrizia, Michaela, Bianca. It will be interesting to track who has staying power.
I mean that the Dutch gang of 12 did the work of 18 men. Also you Yanks work a great deal harder and longer (at work I mean) than western Europeans. Dutch for example have a short working week and anything up to six week hols a year. These guys are always on holiday!
Hollandmale
01-22-07, 11:50
In the last 6 months, I've seen 6 or 7 new women introduced; Diana, Lina, Didem, Patrizia, Michaela, Bianca. It will be interesting to track who has staying power.Judging by last Tuesday, Didem and Michaela did quite well.
They could well be staying longer and be succesful at Bernds :).
Gameless Dork
01-22-07, 15:52
I think I know who you are talking about, I see her on Wednesday. She looked very miserable, but either I or soldier boy were going to go up to her. He eventually did and said she was great and was German and spoke good English.
Things were in full operation on Friday. Babsi was absent and I was wondering about her being gone. The day started off good with a reasonable number of guests.
I got a very nice massage (massage only) from ____ (and I hate to admit, I forgot her name). She has nicely fixed up brown hair with a nice smile, a student in Koeln so working just three days per week. The massage was 25€. She spoke reasonable english. I didn't ask her if she did FS.
There were a couple of new girls there. One girl about 20-22 with a fantastic figure. Sat all day on the upstairs couch and stared at the floor. A couple of times she got up to welcome someone but the rest of the day she just sat. I felt so sorry for her that I was tempted to talk to her. My German is not up to starting a conversation so she just sat.
I went twice with Monica from Hungary. She was fantastic as always. We had some great sessions last summer and these were even better.
Now that I find out about the Dutch attack on Hof I can understand why the bar lady upstairs was so gruff. She might have thought I was Dutch. I just assumed that she was alway mad.
By about 19:00 the crowd had grown to almost standing room only. This place does have a special atmosphere. Must be the combination of dingy carpet, dingy sofas, cramped quarters and FANTASTIC SERVICE from the girls. They all seem to get along well and keep the place exciting.
I think I know who you are talking about, I see her on Wednesday. She looked very miserable, but either I or soldier boy were going to go up to her. He eventually did and said she was great and was German and spoke good English.
This is the perfect example of what not to do. Gameless here quotes an entire post and makes a comment saying he know's who Fly Bob is talking about...but if you read Fly Bob's entire post he touch's upon several subjects.
The correct quote would just include this: "There were a couple of new girls there. One girl about 20-22 with a fantastic figure. Sat all day on the upstairs couch and stared at the floor. A couple of times she got up to welcome someone but the rest of the day she just sat. I felt so sorry for her that I was tempted to talk to her. My German is not up to starting a conversation so she just sat."
This is the second time in this thread (and on the same page) that he's done this...please 'edit' the quote so only the part you want to answer is highlighted.
This was the first Friday I've been to the Hof where it wasn't packed. I was actually met at the door by a naked woman rather than by the bartender. Due to the many reports on a session with Brandy being a wild ride, I found her downstairs and sat next to her. I knew who she was because of the way they pay the girls as a customer leaves. I'm suprised my ears aren't still ringing from the bartender yelling girls names down the stairs. Anyway, I sit next to her and say, "Hi Brandy." She turns and looks at me. She has a confused look on her face as she stares at me and then tells me, doesn't ask me, that she's never been with me before. Now she looks pissed off. She asks, "How do you know me? From the Internet? I hate it when people read things about me and then expect me to do ..." The moral of this story is that what a regular can get and what a first timer can get are two very different things. Once in the room, she was very good with extreme DFK and multiple positions ending with CIM. However, she did not swallow as some have indicated and anal seems to be reserved for people who have had multiple sessions with her. Just because someone else claims to have received some service, don't start demanding it. "Hi Brandy" was enough for me to get an earfull.
On a brighter note, those red dots have finally cleared up on Marcella. She seems to have a few screws loose but her couch sessions are a show not to be missed.
Nick The G
01-23-07, 13:28
Due to the many reports on a session with Brandy being a wild ride, I found her downstairs and sat next to her. ..." The moral of this story is that what a regular can get and what a first timer can get are two very different things.You really think, a girl will perform better when you tell her that you have been reading about her in one these sex forum in the internet? Or you think, you know much about her, when you read about her, what she did with other guys? It doesn't matter how much time you spent in front of the computer reading about her and her sessions with others guys, for her it is the first time that she meets you!
Just imagine, how would you feel, when a woman would tell you in the first meeting, that she knows a lot about your likes and dislikes in your sexlife (with your last ten girlfriends)?
Don't forget, most of these women like to work in clubs because they have complete control over the men, the conditions for pay sex and what is going on in the room! If you tell them too much about what you know of them from the internet, they will feel very uncomfortable, because you disturb their "role".
So far, I have been three times in the room with Brandy. Everytime it was completely different!
If you are a first timer, you are lucky, because in principal everything is still open and anything can happen, a completely new experience is waiting for you! If you are willing to pay and open to let it happen! And you have to build up sort of a relationship to this woman too when you meet her the first time and in your first session. So you better take your time.
If you come with a lot of expectations and you compare every minute of your session with what you did read beforehand what she did with other guys, you are a fool! All of your expectations are hindering you massively from making a good experience with her!
I would say, the moral of this story is: you are meeting a female human being, not a usable fucking machine according to your expectations. Even in pay sex business you have to build up good business relationships to obtain best service!
I think Fats has a fair point and I think Brandy's reaction was unprofessional. Okay she hates to read what she does with men. Why is that I wonder? If what is said is true and not exaggerated for the benefit of the girl then she should be happy that her prowess is widely regarded. And furthermore she should be prepared to give even a first-timer the same treatment she gives her regulars. There is no performance related pay structure in the sex business as far as I know - perhaps following Fats experience and Nick's defence of Brandy's attitude there should be. For Brandy to do anal and CIM only to those who pay into to 'favour bank' shows a deal of cynicism on her part. Comparing Fats admission of prior knowledge to sex in the real world is not comparing like with like. I'd be quite flattered if a girl knew what I liked and didn't like, I would not regard it as sneaky behaviour behind my back as Nick seems to imply is the reason Brandy gave Fats the brush off. Fats has every right to mention this to Ralph the owner of Bernds on their website. He'd pretty quickly tell girls to stop having A and B list clients.
So my advice to Fats is don't feel you are a second class citizen here, having to doff your forlock to your elders. Brandy is in the pay sex business and is expected to come across with the goods, everything else is bullshit.
Judging by last Tuesday, Didem and Michaela did quite well.
They could well be staying longer and be succesful at Bernds :).
The talk around Bernd's during my visit was more from the girls' talking about the staying power of ISG members. I seem to remember the word "Awesome" being used. Must have been referring to current posters of course. :-))))
With reference to Bianca - agree she is not yet comfortable with the Bernd's public no holds barred performance expected. One of the members did give her a go - she told him that she was ........ 18. :-((
Was working briefly in Dusseldorf area but left since she felt it was too dirty in the rooms.
The correct answer in every situation at a FKK/Bordel - I am almost always asked like others are - Been here before ? - How did you find out about this place? etc etc
The answer is Always, Always, Always the same - "A friend was here and told me that I should come" The less "Internet talk" the better for both the girls and we honorable (sic) members.
''answer is Always, Always, Always the same - "A friend was here and told me that I should come" The less "Internet talk" the better for both the girls and we honorable (sic) members.''
Is it? If so why? why for example are we telling others how to behave? It comes across as very snotty-nosed, head prefect, school boss, kind of way to say there is a correct way to behave. Why the less Internet talk the better? What are we trying to achieve here? The girls read the German boards for one, so do their 'boyfriends' and club bosses. Why pretend? Sorry, but this is close to being the coy maiden routine. There are many such forums as this in German, so for a bunch of anglo-saxons to start denying they read sex forums or even (God forbid) write for them is a bit silly. How is one then to answer the next question 'you don't read the Internationalsexguide forum, then?'
Either you have to admit you are not telling the truth or something like this will happen - 'Oh, who me? Good heavens no. What's that again, the international what did you say?'
It is a fact that the German boards endenger self-promotion. Guys visit clubs and let it be known they write for a forum. The deal here is that they garner themselves better attention in return for 'promo-ing' the girl. On the Freiclub subcription only forum ( seriously top flight girls only) they list their 'testers' so the girls know who is calling. The Rheinforum endlessly promotes Samya and Traumparadies to the point where the moderators are tearing their hair out about it.
Nick The G
01-24-07, 00:43
There is no performance related pay structure in the sex business as far as I know - perhaps following Fats experience and Nick's defence of Brandy's attitude there should be. For Brandy to do anal and CIM only to those who pay into to 'favour bank' shows a deal of cynicism on her part.Don't expect to get everything for 50 euro only! As far as I understood Fats, she did CIM, but didn't swallow the juice, who wants to blame her for that?
If you are willing to pay and, if she is in the mood, Brandy will do anal. It will cost you extra money, o.k.? But she determines, if she wants it or not, o.k.?
As far as I experienced it, a half hour session (30-40 minutes) and anal sums up to two "programs" (100 Euro).
Anyway, I sit next to her and say, "Hi Brandy." She turns and looks at me. She has a confused look on her face as she stares at me and then tells me, doesn't ask me, that she's never been with me before. Now she looks pissed off. She asks, "How do you know me? From the Internet? I hate it when people read things about me and then expect me to do ..." The moral of this story is that what a regular can get and what a first timer can get are two very different things..
I visit Bernd's regularly, and I know all of the girl's names and can repeat the lineup alphabetically in my sleep, but each time I approach a girl whom I have not spoken to before and/or have not been with, I introduce myself and act dumb and ask her name, where she's from etc. It opens a comfort level.
If you approach a girl and already know her name although she has never seen you or spoken to you before, she understands that you're working from a list and have some preconceived notion of who she is and what she's like. I'm not saying that this was the case with you but that's what she thinks. Of course, she'll feel uncomfortable- so would you if the shoe was on the other foot.
Actually, the moral of this story is "Be smart and think with your brain not your penis." You acted naturally and made an honest mistake, but remember the psychology of this. If Brandy feels comfortable with you, she'll allow herself to let go and give you a wanton, no holds barred experience which is way over and beyond what she does in a standard session. The reports that you read about Brandy are from sessions like those. So why screw up your chances, by making her feel self-conscious during her time with you.
However, she did not swallow as some have indicated and anal seems to be reserved for people who have had multiple sessions with her. Just because someone else claims to have received some service, don't start demanding it.
While CIM is a basic service at the HOF, anal isn't. CIM- does not mean swallowing. Once in the mouth most of the girls will spit it out into a tissue or towel. Both are done by the girl based on her comfort level with the customer which can be based on her perception if the guy is being nice or his level of cleanliness or even, with anal, the size of his member.
Remember, although we're paying, and although we make the decision whether or not a transaction will occur, the girls are really the ones in charge since as good as we think that we are at it, they have the tools and experience to really know who's good at it and with whom they can/should go the extra mile and/or loose additional layers of inhibitions.
''answer is Always, Always, Always the same - "A friend was here and told me that I should come" The less "Internet talk" the better for both the girls and we honorable (sic) members.''
Is it? If so why? why for example are we telling others how to behave? It comes across as very snotty-nosed, head prefect, school boss, kind of way to say there is a correct way to behave. Why the less Internet talk the better? What are we trying to achieve here? The girls read the German boards for one, so do their 'boyfriends' and club bosses. Why pretend? Sorry, but this is close to being the coy maiden routine. There are many such forums as this in German, so for a bunch of anglo-saxons to start denying they read sex forums or even (God forbid) write for them is a bit silly. How is one then to answer the next question 'you don't read the Internationalsexguide forum, then?'
Either you have to admit you are not telling the truth or something like this will happen - 'Oh, who me? Good heavens no. What's that again, the international what did you say?'
Take it easy...
I have found in clubs that the less internet talk the better. I know that some of the girls that I've been with have read some of my posts, but I believe it's better that they don't connect my face and other body parts with my ISG call name. I prefer to be like a restaurant critic maintaining anonymity - it's the best way to get the real picture of what's going on in the kitchen, the true dining experience, and the genuine from the heart (and not ass-licking;then again in an FKK, I want ass-licking :-)) service.
If I'm asked by an SP how I heard about the club, I say "I was told by friends and looked it up on the internet". I don't tell SP that I post regularly, and I don't believe that I would get preferential treatment if I did. If you're seen regularly then you're a potential for return business, and if you build a reputation as someone who will treat a woman nicely, will be interested in her as a person, and is fun to be with, you'll get the best treatment.
As you wrote, the German guys who post on the main German language forums, don't hide who they are. They can't hide because they're regulars who come there at least weekly and perhaps even socialize outside the club with the owners. And that's why those are the guys that everyone in the club from owner to bargirl to SP will go overboard to please.
Of course you're entitled to tell them that you read the internet and post on ISG. I doubt if it will make that much of an impression.
The talk around Bernd's during my visit was more from the girls' talking about the staying power of ISG members. I seem to remember the word "Awesome" being used. Must have been referring to current posters of course. :-))))
Wow - isn't it amazing how proficiency at typing on computer keys somehow enhances the male libido and staying power.
All those hours sitting on my ass, hacking at the keyboard, with my scrotum scrunched up in my pants must have done wonders for my "awesome" sexual prowess. Since I'm sure that they must be talking about me, I have to thank you for making my day. Did wonders for my ego :-0)
I agree with Iseeu that if you are a regular then you build up a relationship with the girls and if you are fun to be with then its better for both of you. But I personally don't fool myself they therefore think of me as someone special with sensational sexual prowess. It is very tempting to believe this! Does wonders for my libido as well. They love you for spending the money. To me it is like going to the theatre or watching a great movie, or indeed as Iseeu says eating at a great restaurant. We enjoy the illusion. We know it is acting, but its very good acting. These clubs are places where we willfully suspend our disbelief. Nothing wrong in that. It would dismay a large and passionate following among my German friends to learn that one of Bernd's girls whose popularity was legion and whose performance convinced each and every one of them that the 'chemi' between them was special, was totally faking. She was fantastic at the job but faked every moment of it. it stands to reason when you work out that the take for a girl at Bernds is between six and ten clients a day, five days a week. I do know this business from the other side, and not in an amateurish fashion.
Normally when I write a post I do it directly on the website and try to keep it as short as possible. My last post may have been to short as a few people seem to have misconstrued the point I was trying to make. So here is the extended WordPerfect version.
Also in the interest of brevity, I will assume that the reader will have read my previous post and the comments from others already. While I had not had a session with Brandy before, I have talked to Brandy before, so I didn’t see anything wrong with saying “Hi Brandy” when I sat next to her. As it happens, she didn’t remember me and started to rant about guys on the internet. Her complaint was that guys read about what she did (or what someone claims she did) and then DEMAND the same level of service. I never said a single word about the internet.
For example, here are some of the reviews for Brandy-
From Hollandmale on 9/9/06:
Brandy: Tall Polish girl, long curly blond hair, 32 but looking younger, 5'9, figure size-2, nice body and B-cups. A steady Hof-girl for several years, Brandy's service is outstanding, including deepthroat BBBJ/CIM with real swallowing and anal-IC. She's very energetic and truely bisexual, so perfect for a lesbian trio which she prefers with Babsi, Mara and Anna. Solo or in a trio, be ready for a real rollercoaster ride with Brandy!
From Polar on 8-26-06:
And then we have Brandy (at Bernds) who literally complained because I had not driven my thumb hard enough into her anus. It's not always easy to know how to behave...
In response to Soldier Boy’s request: ”I'm also looking to have a bit of 'Anal' ”
Nick_The-G wrote: “take viagra blue, drink redbull and go for an exhausting ride with Brandy over the Hof battlegrounds!”
When we got to the room I asked Brandy what she liked to do and anal was not among the things she said. So I didn’t bring it up and certainly didn’t demand it because others wrote she offers anal.
As I wrote before, my session ended with a CIM and she spit it out. I didn’t ask her to swallow and didn’t expect her to swallow. I didn’t say I’ve read on the internet that you swallow, so swallow.
The point I was trying to make, the point Brandy was complaining about is that just because you read something here, don’t expect/demand the same service. In short,YMMV. From what she told me, more and more customers are demanding for what they read on this and other sites.
P.S. Nick The G–If you go back to my original post on this subject, you can read the line “”Hi Brandy" was enough for me to get an earfull.” That is ALL I said to her, “Hi Brandy” set her off. I never said a single word about the internet. Before you call someone else a fool, perhaps you should improve your reading comprehension.
You really think, a girl will perform better when you tell her that you have been reading about her in one these sex forum in the internet? Or you think, you know much about her, when you read about her, what she did with other guys? It doesn't matter how much time you spent in front of the computer reading about her and her sessions with others guys, for her it is the first time that she meets you!
Just imagine, how would you feel, when a woman would tell you in the first meeting, that she knows a lot about your likes and dislikes in your sexlife (with your last ten girlfriends)?
Don't forget, most of these women like to work in clubs because they have complete control over the men, the conditions for pay sex and what is going on in the room! If you tell them too much about what you know of them from the internet, they will feel very uncomfortable, because you disturb their "role".
So far, I have been three times in the room with Brandy. Everytime it was completely different!
If you are a first timer, you are lucky, because in principal everything is still open and anything can happen, a completely new experience is waiting for you! If you are willing to pay and open to let it happen! And you have to build up sort of a relationship to this woman too when you meet her the first time and in your first session. So you better take your time.
If you come with a lot of expectations and you compare every minute of your session with what you did read beforehand what she did with other guys, you are a fool! All of your expectations are hindering you massively from making a good experience with her!
I would say, the moral of this story is: you are meeting a female human being, not a usable fucking machine according to your expectations. Even in pay sex business you have to build up good business relationships to obtain best service!
Thanks to Fats for giving a clear and concise appraisal of a visit to Bernd's. Could it be that the truth of the matter is that Brandy is getting fed up with all the hype? That what is written about her is...er, OTT? That some of the reports here, like those on German boards, are suffering from a slight case of the 'maerchen' syndrome? Would seem to be a possibility to me.
Nick The G
01-24-07, 13:02
When we got to the room I asked Brandy what she liked to do and anal was not among the things she said. So I didn’t bring it up and certainly didn’t demand it because others wrote she offers anal.
I didn’t ask her to swallow....I'm sure, you're a good boy! You pay to comfort a woman, therefore you ask the woman what she wants! Perfect service attitude!
Why don't you tell her what you want for your money! E.g., say, I have the following fantasies (which of course are mine now!): I want deep kisses and feel your tongue everywhere, I want to fuck you in different positions including anal for about 2 hours, then please take the condom off and I would like to come in your mouth finally and I would like to see you swallow my juice with pleasure.
It's as simple as that!
And the woman (Brandy or any other) can say yes or no to (parts of) your proposal and then can tell you the price you have to pay!
Maybe I'm wrong but my impression is: your head was filled up with all these expectations but you didn't dare to say what you really wanted and now you try a bit to blame the result on the woman! You think she can read your thoughts?
My proposal: maybe next time you try it the new and maybe more direct or "aggessive" way and I would be very interested what the results are! Say directly and clearly what you want/expect from her!
My first session with Brandy lasted approx. 1,5 hours, didn't include anal (I didn't ask for it), but it was way beyond everything else I had experienced before!
As I wrote before, my session ended with a CIM and she spit it out. I didn’t ask her to swallow and didn’t expect her to swallow.Come on, why did you mention it in your original posting then, you even compared it to the experience of others with Brandy?????
I didn’t say I’ve read on the internet that you swallow, so swallow.The internet is in your head!
You were completely preoccupied with all the scrap from the internet! You can cite as many other guys (including me) from as many sex-forums as you want, it will not help you.
What I meant was: You are a fool if you suck in and accumulate/amplify all the information in your brain and believe in what has been written in these internet sex forums by others and that it will happen to you, instantaneously!
Before you call someone else a fool, perhaps you should improve your reading comprehension.I promise I try!
Don't take it too seriously, our hobby is fun and illusion costing a lot of money.
On the other hand, I have no problem stating that I'm a fool myself, especially in those days now in the middle of the carneval season in Germany! (big grin)
Nick The G
01-24-07, 13:03
Could it be that the truth of the matter is that Brandy is getting fed up with all the hype? That what is written about her is...er, OTT? That some of the reports here, like those on German boards, are suffering from a slight case of the 'maerchen' syndrome? Would seem to be a possibility to me.I fully support what you state here!
Always be open for a new experience and trust in your own experience. Don't compare to others, it may completely ruin the good feelings in your life!
''answer is Always, Always, Always the same - "A friend was here and told me that I should come" The less "Internet talk" the better for both the girls and we honorable (sic) members.''
Is it? If so why? why for example are we telling others how to behave? It comes across as very snotty-nosed, head prefect, school boss, kind of way to say there is a correct way to behave. Why the less Internet talk the better? ....
Marlow,
I believe that you missed the point in your reply. My point was not that full and open discussion of clubs, the girls and their service offerings shouldn't be written about and shared on Internet Boards such as this one. I certainly believe that it should.
My point was that one should never reply to a girl's question that we often hear from them that we read about them and their services on the Internet. You get the same point across by telling them that a friend visited and recommended that you visit - if it is your first time. On subsequent visits a similar story in that you have indeed been there before and if the pressed where did you hear about it ?- from a friend.
Why you ask ? 1) Female sensibilities and 2) the information is to be shared by Men who are seeking information about Women for sex and not with the Women and upset them- why should we?
Most woman who have a big ass know it. Most woman who do prefer not to be reminded of it. Most women who work in the industry know that they can be classsed at least for their time there as W****s, most woman who do prefer not to be reminded of it. Many are not particularly proud of the fact and do so for a number of reasons that in the end are only important to them.
Much of the industry thrives on perceptions. Most woman and many men prefer 'positive' rather than negative perceptions.
The Reward. Let's be selfish, one will usually find a higher level of service and willingness to please if the women are treated somewhat as normal people just as many men often like to keep their own perceptions of the surroundings and activities taking place. This includes telling them that their every activity and scoreboard is on the internet. Women are thankfully women but they do have their quirks and most are offended by this.
The Downside. Fats covered it. Brandy as reported many times - including by me is one of the most uninhibited providers known to (many) man. She truly revels in her sexuality and shares it enthousiastically. Her reaction to Fats answer states the case of female sensibilities. They all also have their moods and their own sense of privacy even if different from yours or mine. Rubbing their noses publically in the fact of the type of work that they are doing and that it is 'public knowledge' usually doesn't help in receiving the higher levels of service that we all hope for. And that is what the ISG Forum and members are all about and looking for.
Saying that I am among the first to encourage accurate reporting and cutting off below standard providers as soon as possible in the way that hurts them most immediately - in their purse. 'Nuff said.
We all very much enjoy our hobby and the information from this Forum to highten it. Enjoy by all means but the counterparty to our transactions are not unfeeling machines but people who chose a different work environment than many of us. In the Zimmer or in the wonderful case of the 'Hof on the couches - it's Voll Gaz. But let the girls keep their diginity if they wish while they are blowing your brains out - you and those who come after you will usually reap the rewards of a better session and THAT is what it is all about.
I too would wish to make the final point that I appreciate your reports and those of Fats among the rest. When at a club and meet an ISG member who has been lurking or not posting, I go out of my way to encourage them to report.
I am reminded of a very good reply from Hollandmale to a poster that commented that he would not measure up in the quality of his reporting to a new club for him after his upcoming visit as compared to several outstanding posts on the club made by Hollandmale and others.
Hollandmale replied that the Club newbie's report on his visit would be the most valuable since it would be most up to date.
The Club was Bernd's and the newbie to the Club was ehhmm... me.
Wise man that Hollandmale.
This whole explanation smacks of the kind of double standards men are good at. You are saying to me we must never tell them what we write about them because of their sensibilities about being prostitutes? Sorry but what I read tells me more about the attitude of men here, than it does of the girls themselves. In other words pretending to treat them are normal people, while behind their backs writing about them as sex objects. Some girls want to know what is written (not here because it's in English) so they can improve their technique. Like everyone they get pissed off if it sometimes isn't good. I think these typical Anglo-saxon double standards have no place in Germany, where prostitution is legal and by and large (not always) girls are not looked down on. (It is difficult to look down on someone earning 60,000 euros a year!) As Gerry MacGuire said 'show me the money'. Frankly I don't care for all this sham behaviour. The girls know very well what job they are doing and proud of it, so give up this notion they are little flowers in need of protection, they are a lot toughter that most of us men. If you have been to the Bernd's girls Christmas party in Cologne and gone on with them afterwards you will quickly be disabused of the thought that these are women ashamed of what the do for a living. But what the hell tell the girl what you like because she'll tell you what you want to hear in return. Here's another line out of a film, by Ken Russell, when a call girl says to a client who demands the truth 'which truth do you want?' I am not against people being nice to each other, but men trying to tell each other how to behave when it comes to sex - that's a bit rich.
This whole explanation smacks of the kind of double standards men are good at. You are saying to me we must never tell them what we write about them because of their sensibilities about being prostitutes? Sorry but what I read tells me more about the attitude of men here, than it does of the girls themselves.Meh,
I think you're making this a bit more complicated than it really is. IMO, it's not about looking down on prostitutes or anything like that.
Simply put: If anonymous people on a public forum on the internet were to judge, analyze and grade MY job performance, in detail, continously, on a day to day basis, then that would make me a little uncomfortable. And pretty damn pissed off.
So, to me, it's no wonder if many of the women should find forums like this annoying or disturbing or whatever. Therefore, my personal view is that it might be best if I avoid bringing unnecessary attention to the fact that I'm active on this forum.
But, hey, if you feel like starting a session by telling the girl that you later intend to write a public report card on her performance, grading her looks, technique and enthusiasm then by all means, go ahead. And good luck with that :)
Lots of interesting fireside chit-chat about Brandy the past few days, guys. She polarizes every forum.....
I must say I'm wondering just what I've got to do to meet this girl. Turned up yesterday, and again she was not there. So far as I know, but I'm pretty sure I identified even those I'd not seen before by the end. I still have no idea what she looks like. So no tantrums, no earful about forums, no anal shrieking, no head-over-heels oral gymnastics. Does she know I'm driving over?
It was still an entertaining few hours, which I utilized to get to know both Rita and Svenja for the first time. They put in excellent performances, both extremely good kissers.
Rita is a very, very pretty Belarus girl in my book, and quite a live wire in conversation. The room was very good Bernd's standard.
Svenja is no facial beauty for me, but has a body right to my taste. Literally of course. She is indeed experienced. Very fine long BBBJ hoovering and 69, plus a crunching CIM finish at the end of an hour's acrobatics. Her mouth and my dick were created together in a previous life, I am sure. I shall simply have to return to Schieferhof for regular reunions. Like space station and shuttle, it's a long way before they come together, but the dock-on will be smooth precision-perfect harmony. Was a goner after her, so called it a day on that high note.
Hi Tosc,
You know I have a softspot for Belarussian girl :D. Can you develop a little bit more on Rita? Blonde? Brunette? ... redhead ;)?
Jim
is brunette with straight shoulderlength hair. Pretty short (but to a 2 meters guy everyone is short), I would say 1,60 or something like that. Very good looking, but allthough I've been at Bernds several times now, I can not remember seeing her smile. I find that curious, especillay when you have been to the place a couple of hours and listened to Marcella...
My question to Toscana is about Ritas english skills. My german is so limited, so I have not even tried talking to her yet. Did you have an english or german conversation with her?
Yes, Jim, I know all about you and Belarussian girls. :-) Polar's description is accurate. She is slim (A/B breasts), no fat anywhere. Just nicely shaped. Really like her eyes. She's from near Minsk, and been at B's for about 18 months, I think. And as with so many Belarus girls, life has driven out the airs and graces. Definitely has her feet on the ground.
In fact I was tempted to go over to her, BECAUSE she was smiling to me, and because there was a nice bit of free sofa next to her. Space, in the rooms and on the couches downstairs, was at times at a premium. Polar, I know she has very little English at all. We spoke German. But why worry? You can always fall back on French....
Brandy is in her early thirties, has shortish light colored hair, very wide set eyes and very shall we say prominent teeth. She is thin, flexible and usually sits downstairs on the benches along the wall. She often sits rolled up like a ball, with her knees by her chin. To be honest, based on looks, she would not be the first woman there I would pick. Or the 2nd or 3rd for that matter. She will be very good in the room, but if you think Svenja is no facial beauty, compared to Brandy, Svenja is a beauty queen. That being said, if you plan to go with Brandy, be sure to get plenty of sleep the night before, take your vitamins and be prepared for the ride of your life.
A few comments after enjoying a couple of visits to Bernd's over the past week.
My first session was with Michaela, who is relatively new to Bernd's scene. Certainly no complaints there. She fits in well with the fine level of service that seems to be the norm at Bernd's. And an added plus: She is able to converse in English! One of the challenges at Bernd's for non-German speakers such as myself is finding someone with at least limited skills in English for use in that initial "getting to know you" period on the couch. At least for me, that interlude adds to the quality of the non-verbal activities that follow.
During my recovery period, I ran into Excess, Soldier Boy and the guy now known as Gameless Dork. Nothing like some conversation with fellow hobbiests over a Pils to pass the time.
During this conversation, Soldier Boy mentioned that Svenja's oral skills are quite outstanding. Actually, he used slightly different terminology to make his point, but I understood it quite clearly.
Although I was close to exhaustion at that point, there happened to be an empty space on the couch next to Svenja, which I quickly occupied (to the surprise of Soldier Boy, who was contemplating such a move himself). This slender half-German, half-Italian lady also has some English capability, after which she began to demonstrate the skills that Soldier Boy had alluded to.
Despite my feeling that I was done for the night, her mouth quickly proved that thought to be incorrect, quite a surprise for us both. Since this achievement took only a matter of minutes, she finished out the half-hour with a soothing back massage.
Some comments, then, about Bernd's in general, most of which won't be news to frequent readers of this section:
The smoke level of the place is very high. At one point, it was even necessary to open the window to air the place out a bit. It's an irritant, but at least for me, not a deal-breaker.
The warm-up period on the couch is pretty amazing. Generally speaking, chat moves on to DFK and then to BBBJ in the public areas. I found that the observation of these activities taking place with other patrons is much more stimulating than the porn flicks that are standard FKK fare.
I also liked the technique of paying at Bernd's. At the end of a session, the girl simply asks for your locker number and gives you a towel for your next shower. No money changes hands at that point.
Payment is made after you are dressed and about to leave the club. Your bill for however many sessions you've had is totalled up, you pay, and if any of your playmates are not occupied, they come up to bid you farewell.
This method separates the "payment" from the "services" by some number of minutes or maybe even hours, perhaps making it easier to fantisize that the services were provided because you were a pleasant person to be with, rather than just another paying customer. It's quite different from the other Frankfurt FKK clubs where you be the girl immediately after leaving the room.
As time permits, I'll add a few comments about getting lost in Germany in the General Information section.
I was actually met at the door by a naked woman rather than by the bartender.
.. by a naked women is the standard.
Being greeted by the fully dressed bartender (or Thekenfrau) is not the standard.
Of course you're entitled to tell them that you read the internet and post on ISG. I doubt if it will make that much of an impression.
In the grand scheme of things, the women (particularly in the non-tourist oriented clubs) know that their domestic clientele are those who butter their bread.
The stray English speaking tourist who comes by once and a while is not the one who they need to impress that much.
.. by a naked women is the standard.
Being greeted by the fully dressed bartender (or Thekenfrau) is not the standard.
Being "greeted" by Connie on one of her many 'bad days' would certainly make a first-timer think twice about entering.
Being "greeted" by Connie on one of her many 'bad days' would certainly make a first-timer think twice about entering.
... I know exactly what you mean!
Connie goes back a ways.
Bernds has a Weiberfasnachtparty on the 15th.
I'd never seen them do pop up ads on the RF but there it is along with one for FKK World.
Anyone going?
I wish I could but I won't be there until the week after.
For anyone interested in learning about the tradition of Fasnacht (Karneval, Mardi Gras or Fasching as it is known elsewhere):
http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/fasnet.htm
Even die Bahn has something to say about what is going on that day:
http://www.bahn.de/p/view/preise/tagesfahrten/sonder_19_weiberfasnacht.shtml
George Bickham
02-02-07, 16:14
I’ve been visiting Bernd’s regularly for more eight years (mainly because of the amazing service which everbody talks about – and including decent food and cold beer). But I haven’t gone for almost a year because it was I was getting a bit used to it and it was becoming a stammtische. I’ve also been lurking on this board for a few years. So I’ve been interested in the way other people have been discovering it on this board over the last year or so – I’ve often wondered why it took so long. .
By the sound of things, everything is as good as ever, so I’m thinking of going back later in the month.
Can anybody can help me with a few questions which I’ve got from reading some of the recent posts:
- Several people seem to say that CIM is part of the ‘regular’ service. Does that mean it’s not charged? In the past, some girls gave me CIM unasked, in which case it wa in the basic price, but if you asked, it was treated as a second session (EUR 50). Is it now free if you ask for it?
- Where girls will do A, is that now EUR 50 as well? Or EUR 50 plus a double session (ie EUR 150 in all)? I’ve had differing experinces on this one
- Someone mentioned that Helga the Thiekenfrau worked the floor on a Friday. Crazy! Is she there every Friday? And does she work any other days? In the past, sometimes Fridays have tailed off a bit after 10 or so – place full, girls done what they’re going to and so off home.
Thanks for any info on any of these; maybe I’ll see you later in the month – may post before I go to see if anybody else will be there.
Not all the girls do CIM (most do), but if they do, it's no extra charge in my experience.
Anal, is EUR 50 extra. No other conditions that I am aware of.
I have to defer to others on Helga. Friday is the busiest day (too busy IMHO), so I don't go.
Look forward to your non-lurking mode...........
Not all the girls do CIM (most do), but if they do, it's no extra charge in my experience.
.. in my experience too.
If they offer it, its included. They don't all swallow, if that matters to you.
Actually Carnival parties in clubs is a pretty good promo, whether they are fun to be at is another matter. Bernds certainly is packed the moment the door opens. I've heard than men queue eight deep outside waiting for someone to leave so they can get in. Meanwhile on the streets of Cologne, Bonn and Dusseldorf and in cafes and bars and discos, women are offering it for free - believe me, it's true. So why queue at Bernds? A psychologist writes.........(please, be my guest)
The Rhineland becomes one sexual madhouse. Then when it's all over on the Wednesday (Ash Wednesday) they pretend it never happened and they never fucked anybody.
Hollandmale
02-07-07, 07:25
Monday February 19 is Rosenmontag (Carnival) in Cologne.
It's a public holiday in the Cologne area; Bernds will be closed.
Thank you, for your update regarding the public holiday for Bernd's on Monday, 19 February 2007. I was planning to be there on Monday, but now will have to reschedule my visit.
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
Thank you, for your update regarding the public holiday for Bernd's on Monday, 19 February 2007. I was planning to be there on Monday, but now will have to reschedule my visit.
Cheers!
ChicagoManAnd other clubs were closed on that day too.
Don't know if "someone" (any volunteers?) can make a list.
Its a fun athmosphere in town. Even the policemen were in a good mood and there was no really unruly behavior, just lots people stepping off trains in the morning who had already had something to drink.
A few days of break had allowed me to recover from my previous adventures. I had a meeting at Bernd’s with Iseeu. I have to admit that Bernd’s is not my favorite club. I know, no other FKK can compete with it’s unique erotic atmosphere and the quality of service of those superstars of sex. But I guess that the crazy girls at Bernd’s just scare me, I’m a little boy compared to their incredible sex experience. In fact, I’m again back on my search for GFE, and those stars just know the ropes and will not get trapped by their emotions. The only girl that had made me a great impression from my previous visit was Dutch Mara, and I was looking forward to see her. There was a lot of snow on the road and I was glad when I arrived.
Once inside, I found Iseeu already in the sofa with his favorite girl Princess together with Mara. It couldn’t start better, I took place in the sofa next to Mara and we had fun all four, the discussion switching from one language to another. Princess claimed to be from Martinique, it might be true but then with very far relatives as she didn’t speak Creole and had few knowledge of the island. It doesn’t matter, she is a great girl. I believed at first that Mara had already forgotten me, but she remembered me quiet well from my previous visit a few months ago. Iseeu was holding Princess in his arms but started to grab also Mara. I worried that it was going to the wrong side, but Mara came back to me even closer. She had already noticed that I was under her charm. She soon started to kiss me naturally on the sofa. I guess Iseeu was looking for a foursome. We had already missed a previous foursome together at World with the Cuban duo and it looked great to me, but for some reason I prefer to be alone with Mara. She seemed to feel exactly what I wanted as she offered me to go straight to the room to be alone together, which is quiet unusual for Bernd’s standards where couch action is the norm if not the rule.
Once in the room, Mara just made me dream away straight to my teenage flirt years. She has a pretty face, a petite slim teenage body with a perfect soft white skin and a natural unshaved pussy. She is sweat and quiet, loves to kiss and takes her time, the illusion is scaring perfect. Also the way she puts the condom is unnoticeable, a real Houdini trick. I was deeply impressed, but of course, that’s why Mara deserves her star status. At the end of the session, the door of the room opened, Iseeu and Princess entered for the foursome, but they came too late! This is the great thing about Bernd’s, there are no taboos, anything is allowed.
Once outside the room, I dared not to disturb her anymore. With the snow, there were nearly no customers and the girls were bored. Iseeu’s knowledge of the club is impressive, he knows all the girls. The club was too quiet to get the usual orgy atmosphere. But on the other hand, the great thing is that all girls are available, even the superstars that are booked all night long with the regular customers. Strange, but no other girl fancied me, I had only Mara in my mind and the marvellous session we just had. I needed a good fuck to get over it and decided to go with Rita, probably the best looking girl of Bernd’s. But no matter how great she is, she just didn’t succeed in getting me Mara out of my head, as was soon again back in the living room. Iseeu had already left, and I felt myself a bit lonely. I discussed with a few other guests, comparing notes about other clubs, but I kept an eye on Mara. She was always busy with other girls that had always something to tell her. Mara is a great girl, quietly listening to all those crazy girls. Yes, she is also very popular among the girls! I wished she would come to sit next me. But I was in Bernd’s, and I could wait a long time for that, as the girls are not allowed to approach. When I saw her standing up, I asked her to come and see me as soon as she has finished. She gave me a sign with her head and left.
She was back a bit later and came to sit next to me. At last I had her for myself! We tried to find again a room for some intimacy, but most were already in use. There was only one room left near the “kino” without screen. Of course there is no screen, the action is in the audience itself! There were already two couples preparing something. Mara tried to negotiate some privacy with them, not easy in Bernd’s! Once in the room, she dimmed the light on a romantic level and we started to kiss. I was already dreaming away with her small body in my arms. My heart was beating so strong that she probably felt it on her chest. The look of her eyes made me melting away, she kisses passionately, she moved slowly her hips and I felt her pussy becoming more and more wet against me. I know that she is very good and that the difference is hard to notice, but we did it truly. She was sincere, she had taken off her protection, I can’t tell you more about it. I know Mara reads the forums. I know she will recognize me if she reads it. She doesn’t care about it as she knows that she has always excellent reports. But I am the one that feels uncomfortable about it. Yes, I will not brag that she had feelings for me, on the contrary. Yes, there was an excellent chemistry between us , but it was clearly me that was deeply impressed by her. I guess she was sensitive about it and gave me a favour. There were probably a few other circumstances like the fact that I was the last guest on that quiet evening or that I started to get the regular status on my third session with her.
We stayed a long time discussing on the bed. I was seriously affected. It’s incredible how many thing we have in common. we even discussed about a similar experience with had both in the Amazonian jungle in Suriname can you imagine that? She is simply amazing and I’m glad I live too far to come on a regular basis, else I would fall deeply in love.
The romantic atmosphere was suddenly interrupted by three girls that entered the room, as they didn’t appreciate I stayed all that time with their Mara. The Bernd’s is simply incredible for that, where else could this happen? One moment I was dreaming with a girl in a romantic atmosphere and the next moment I was in bed with three crazy naked girls that wanted to have fun with me too! One of her friends wanted to go home with her, but Mara had promised to Princess to go to the sauna first. She asked me to come too, so we went all three together in the sauna before closing. I felt Princess didn’t appreciate she could not be alone with Mara. She spoke with Mara as if I was not there. Mara simply listened, but I guess she hoped that I didn’t understand everything in German. Yes, it was better not to hear everything!
De Club was already empty, I took quickly a shower and went to pay. It’s funny that list at the end with the names of all the girls you have been with, but Mara had 3 marks with me! She was also the only one that said me goodbye. She gave me a last kiss at the door before I left the house. Mara, I’m still dreaming of her.
Routard. You have really succeeded to describe why I travel all the way from Sweden down to Germany just to visit Bernds, and you know whom. I don't write a note on the forum everytime I'm there since it would be very repetitive. Same girl, same activity.
I have not made it during the last months due to all work, so the abstinence starts to be heavy. Planning for a trip March 12. Can't wait until I'm there. It's nice to be in a dream sometimes.
Mon Ami,
Great report, but you were so fucked out by then that you're a little hazy on some of the details :-). Here then is the real unadulterated version by a soberer participant:
+ We met in the downstairs lounge when I saw you doing your initial scouting survey and called you over...
+By that time I had already had sessions with Marcella and Jenny. Marcella is one of the better providers at the Hof, and she maintains her status after this session. Very passionate, multiple positions, incredibly sexy movements, great oral. Terrific.
+ We made some rounds in the upstairs and downstairs lounges trying to find the right partner for you. Princess arrived later and she came downstairs looking for me, and I introduced you in French.
+Then we went upstairs where I found Princess and Mara talking and motioned you to come over and join us on the couch near the screen, where you reacquainted with Mara, while I gave her a head massage and talked with Princess while contentedly fondling her ample charms. Yes, my hand did wander over to Mara's pearly white skin, but I am not in control of that hand and it has and amazing independent libido, that hand...
+After the 2 of you went off, Princess and I just continued talking, laughing, caressing, kissing, making out, orally pleasing each other. We stayed like that for almost an hour, with me in a permanent state of arousal, but not moving to a room. This is another unique piece of bernd's- I would have been charged 100 Euro anywhere else for what we did on the couch.
+Princess and I traditionally get together for my last sessions of my visit so while she went off to process 2 customers, I sat down by Tanya, who's been getting top marks on RF, but with whom I've never been before. The session was good, but too structured and professional. I like the disorganized, spontaneous play time not the 1/2 hour scripted professional production.
+While I waited for your return from the clutches of Mara, I met a Belgian monger who had driven down for the day and posts in youppie.
+ Later we were talking at the downstairs bar, watching the couch action and making eyes at Rita and Tanya. I mimed to them that underneath your towel you were supporting a salami and Rita came over to check the veracity of my information while we sat on the bar chairs. She was very good at it, drawing you into her clutches and more or less pushing me out of the way.
+If I recall, it was at that moment while you were incoherent, with one finger in Rita's **** and your eyes drugged over with lust that you asked me if I would like to join the 2 of you in the room with another girl. You were the initiator of this not me, ne ce'st pas? You just want to get me into a room, you devil.
+ I was waiting at that point for Princess as I was ready for my last session before I had to catch the train back to FRA for my plane, and preferred to wait for her. By the time she came down - and we barged into your room, you and Rita were in post-coital throes. Missed the 4some again.
+Session with Princess was, as always great. We just match up well, despite looking like an odd couple, but the chemistry in and out of the room is for want of a better description, "Routardly". Her personality is very similar to my ex-wife's, with whom I am still very good friends, so the time with her is like pulling on an old glove, it's just so natural and comfortable. It's a shame that we live so far away from each other...
+ So there we are, my dick planted comfortably inside of her, her hands stroking my face, while I nestle in her bosom after a straight uninterrupted hour of horizontal dancing, and I glance at her watch and it's 5 minutes before my taxi was called for. I jumped up, ran butt naked to the lockers and only when I was pulling on my pants did I realize that the condom was still hanging there....
+Yes, it was a quiet day and night at Bernd's, but I had a succesful monthly inspection tour and it was great to see and talk to you once again. We need to meet more often perhaps closer to home.
+ Routard, don't worry, we'll make it into a foursome together, with Cubans, Dutch, Martiniqueans, Lithuanian or whatever women happen to be around,sometime soon. Your Colombians are making my blood boil. Can't wait.
+Made it to my taxi, then my train, and then to my plane to Singapore, but never had a chance to wash up, so I took the smell of Princess and Bernd's all the way with me to Asia. Ce'st la Vie. I can think of worse ways to travel.
Sorry Iseeu,
I'm confused, and with all your details I realize now I had eyes only for Mara, all other memories are fuzzy. I guess that's why we need to be backed up by a fellow ISG member for a more accurate overview.
I guess I 've fucked up again the foursome we could have done. But what about a partytreff on the Caribbean sea? I'll arrange for the girls and the boat. Just check those pics, it will give you an idea about marvellous Saint Maarten:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=555993&postcount=621
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=555993&postcount=621
See you soon.
Routard
This was my second visit to this club...and i'll be honest the first call on my first visit didnt sit very well. Service was good but she informed me that I had gone over the half hour and 'had to charge me for the next half hour'...5 to 10 minutes over by my watch. I wont say who it was or argue with the manager...but figured a second visit was needed.
The second visit to this club went much, much better than the first. Met up with some regulars at this club...dont know if by being in on the conversation made them open up a bit more to a newcomer. But the service levels were much more open than my first visit.
Not going in order the one that really caught my attention was Sandy. I wanted to approach her throughout the day and finally made the move (no, i wasnt waiting just for her, saw two other girls before her). Started by giving her a little massage while she was seated on a barstool downstairs...then moved into the couch area...and finally into the room. This is when she asked me to give her a massage, so gave her a nice massage for 20 minutes...finally getting the action started. She's a looker with just enough extra weight to make the action feel that much better. Afterwards though, thoughts of the overcharge from the first visit came to mind and I did get concerned about getting overcharged again for the massage time...but turns out I worried for nothing.
My last visit wasnt really planned, I was just looking around and ran into Mara upstairs. I was told she was highly recommended...but I never look for girls by names. I usually go on my gut instinct. Looking at the reviews of Mara I can see why the two strange guys seemed to be following her around. Mara sat down on the sofa and one of those guys asked to sit next to her...asked her a question or two and then just sat there ignoring her. So I moved across the way and when she looked over just gave her a finger wave that said "come over here". She jumped right up and sat in my lap. Turns out she's a really sweet girl with a great sense of humour. She ended up giving me a good 10 minutes of couch action and getting comments from several of the girls sitting around her. Told her she was probably the last of my trip and she went out of her way to make sure Id remember her the most. Yes, the sex was spectacular...but for the guys who show up just for the sex dont forget to talk to the girl a bit before going to the room.
.. but thought I would summarize quickly changes to the lineup at this club.
Some girls have left: Monika, Celine, Jennifer and Aylin.
Not clear as to whether they have left to retire or have left to work elsewhere. Yeah, I know... its very confusing.
They gave me the impression that Aylin has retired.
There was some talk about Celine coming back.
Based on conversations with Bianca (from Koeln, 18 y.o, dark hair, petite, very very tanned, very talkative), the girls pay 30 Euros Eintritt each day. After their first client, they are 20 Euros ahead. Each client thereafter puts 50 Euros in their pockets directly.
Bianca says that Jennifer once serviced 22 clients in one shift.
You do the math.
.. Bianca says that Jennifer once serviced 22 clients in one shift.
You do the math.Well not any more, she isn't. Reports have it that Jenny and Monika were fired. For absenteeism. So my math remains unchallenged, zum Glück.
Well not any more, she isn't. Reports have it that Jenny and Monika were fired. For absenteeism. So my math remains unchallenged, zum Glück.Jenny was there 2 weeks ago. She is not the Jennifer who did 22 in a shift.
Jessy was fired for absenteeism. I have not heard that Monica was fired.
According to my info Aylin and Celine have left the business for now.
Bianca is fairly new- on the job for about 2 months. I was there her first day. My impression was that she was more reserved than the normal Hof girl. How was the session with her?
Bianca is fairly new- on the job for about 2 months. I was there her first day. My impression was that she was more reserved than the normal Hof girl. How was the session with her?I see that I am following in your footsteps, Iseeu!
Yes, she is quite new and yes, she has been there only for two months. She was, indeed, quite reserved. Despite her very young age, she actually has things to talk about, particularly if you bring up music as a topic. She listens to just about anything.
She does provide service at the Bernds level. If I may reveal an intimate detail: she is quite tight. Most eighteen year olds are usually quite clumsy but she is clearly an exception.
I wanted a second session with her and at 10:00 sat beside her to talk. She says she had plans of disappearing at 11:00. I say, fine, we have enough time for one more session and I offer to give her a massage in the room. She says she'd prefer to just sit there and talk. So for the next hour we sit and talk. My hands aren't idle during this one hour conversation, by the way. She didn't mind at all and actually enjoyed the attention.
Nice girl. Makes you want to use the line: "Whats a nice girl like you doing in a place like this?"
Her side kick, by the way, is a very young German blonde who has a face like Calista Flockhart's. Problem is that she also has the body of Calista Flockhart: rail thin. I didn't have the pleasure of meeting her.
I am planning to visit Bernd's around March 16 (not too sure at this juncture as things have yet to take shape for a definate Go-Go, but this is in no way directed towards the caliber of Bernd's, I have to finalize my trip to Cologne)
I would like to know from the Bernd veterans a few things that came to my mind as I went through about 25 pages in this thread -
1) Am a newbie to the FKK scene so would Bernd's be the way to break my FKK virginity :))
2) From Hennef (Sieg) bahnhof, which U bahn do you take to get closest to Bernd's and how do proceed further from you drop-off point to Bernd's ? Or
Is it best that you take a taxi coz those guys know the place like the back of their palm ?
3) After having read the reports, I get the impression that Bernd's is for rich European businessmen or rich American tourist or guys who are 30+ or 40+ European/American guys looking to have a great time and I am an Asian guy so would I stick out like a sore thumb there (keeping in mind that the pricing of the club is not an issue here.
4) Am looking for a good time and most imp a good GFE. So is Bernd's the way to go ?
5) As far as the time goes I think reaching Bernd's by 1500 hrs and back by 2100 hrs should be quite sufficient, if I am not worn out and well have to leave coz I just can't take it anymore :))
Thanks guys and hope someone is able to help me with my questions here
I am planning to visit Bernd's around March 16 (not too sure at this juncture as things have yet to take shape for a definate Go-Go, but this is in no way directed towards the caliber of Bernd's, I have to finalize my trip to Cologne)
I would like to know from the Bernd veterans a few things that came to my mind as I went through about 25 pages in this thread -
1) Am a newbie to the FKK scene so would Bernd's be the way to break my FKK virginity :))
2) From Hennef (Sieg) bahnhof, which U bahn do you take to get closest to Bernd's and how do proceed further from you drop-off point to Bernd's ? Or
Is it best that you take a taxi coz those guys know the place like the back of their palm ?
3) After having read the reports, I get the impression that Bernd's is for rich European businessmen or rich American tourist or guys who are 30+ or 40+ European/American guys looking to have a great time and I am an Asian guy so would I stick out like a sore thumb there (keeping in mind that the pricing of the club is not an issue here.
4) Am looking for a good time and most imp a good GFE. So is Bernd's the way to go ?
5) As far as the time goes I think reaching Bernd's by 1500 hrs and back by 2100 hrs should be quite sufficient, if I am not worn out and well have to leave coz I just can't take it anymore :))
Thanks guys and hope someone is able to help me with my questions here
.... answered numerous times but I will exhibit some patience and answer them.
1) If you are already going to be in Koeln/Bonn, do drop by. If you are making a large detour to get there from Frankfurt, better you stay in Frankfurt and enjoy what Hessen has to offer so you don't waste travel time (and money).
If you are already in Koeln/Bonn, I can think of several good clubs for a newbie to visit which won't ask you to drop your inhibitions and still give you a good experience.
There are all sorts of whiny, prudish types lurking out there who freak out at the thought of being naked in a club and/or having sex with a woman who has sex with other guys before (!). You know who you are...
2) There is no U-bahn to take from Hennef. Your choices are either a cab or taking the Bus which goes down the Landstrasse eastwards (I forget the bus number). Get off at the Oberdorf Bushaltestelle.
3) There are Japanese businessmen who come to this club too. There is a very large Japanese community in Duesseldorf. It is not, however, set up as a tourist club, d.h. you will get by in English but your level of comfort with the environment will depend on how uncomfortable you are with understanding only a fraction of what is going on around you.
This freaks out some people but some people don't mind.
Bernds is all about interactivity. Its unique ambiance is a function of the easy communication which takes place amongst the girls, the Thekenstaff and the guests.
4) Yes, you will get a GFE. Or rather, you are almost certainly guaranteed a GFE without having to worry about the hit and run tactics which are employed at other not-to-be-named clubs.
5) You need to factor in drive time or travel time into this equation. By getting back, do you mean back to Frankfurt? If yes, this timetable starts to look more and more unrealistic.
I forgot to mention that Bianca is a Sponge Bob fan.
In German he is known as Sponge Bob Schwalmkopf.
For some reason they drop the reference to his "quadratische Hose".
My opinion is that Bernd's is not the best club for a non German newby:
- The erotic atmosphere, anything goes, can be intimidating for a newby who has no experience of public group sex.
- The typical German atmosphere can be intimidating too as there are few tourists, everybody seems to know each other and everybody speaks German.
- The size of the club can be intimidating as you are not anonymous in a crowd and you can not keep busy with any facility: you need to socialize.
- The girls can be intimidating too, they are older, have attitude and you need to make the first move.
- The poor facilities and the small line-up can even be disappointing for a newby expecting a huge club.
Try first the 3 Frankfurt clubs: Disneyland for adults.
My opinion is that Bernd's is not the best club for a non German newby:
- The erotic atmosphere, anything goes, can be intimidating for a newby who has no experience of public group sex.
- The typical German atmosphere can be intimidating too as there are few tourists, everybody seems to know each other and everybody speaks German.
- The size of the club can be intimidating as you are not anonymous in a crowd and you can not keep busy with any facility: you need to socialize.
- The girls can be intimidating too, they are older, have attitude and you need to make the first move.
Try first the 3 Frankfurt clubs: Disneyland for adults.
Yes, Routard speaks the truth.
You may find it intimidating particularly if you are a total newbie, don't speak German and haven't had your cherry popped elsewhere.
Hessen Bub
03-04-07, 16:42
In German he is known as Sponge Bob Schwalmkopf.
It is "Schwammkopf". Schwamm = sponge and Kopf = head. Equals spongehead.
The original name in English I think was SpongeBob SquarePants.
Hessen Bub
I agree with Routard and Jackyo. It takes a certain kind of mongerer to really enjoy himself at Berndt's. Everything is more out in the open. There are only two public rooms, with sofas along the walls. Basically all of the meeting the girls and all of the foreplay happens there. This can be intimidating.
There is really no quiet corner to which you can withdraw. Believe me, I have experienced this intensely, when I just needed 30 minutes of shut-eye between sessions.
You have to make the first move. And there is the possibility of rejection. When this rejection happens (sometimes it does), it therefore necessarily is visible to just about everyone.
Some of the girls are ... shall we say ... of a bit more advanced vintage. Looks are always subjective, of course, but I find about half of the girls at the Hof very unattractive. Several are quite a bit overweight. (But great performers, nevertheless!)
The place is so small that a few more men can make it uncomfortable, and a few too few men can make the girls bored. So it also can happen that they just will not let you in, because there are too many men inside already.
BUT ... after all of these qualifiers ... here is the botom line: If you go there with the right expectations, if you are not too shy, and if you enjoy excellent GFE service, then this is the place for you.
Language is not even the most important point. The last time I was there I went in at the same time as a guy from Poland. He did not speak any German and only little English. But he was cheerful and outgoing. He and I did not chat after the first 10 minutes in the locker room. There was no time, because both of us were just too busy with our "dates". He had a terrific time!
Let me make a comparison with skiiing: Advanced skiers enjoy the bumpy steep slopes. Beginner would die there. Beginners like smooth and not too steep runs, but the more advanced skiers can get easily bored on these. Berndt's is the moguls. Not a good place to start out, but for the advanced punter enjoying challenges and special rewards it is a great option.
euro (who can do double-black, but still enjoys the occasional blue cruise ;))
2) There is no U-bahn to take from Hennef. Your choices are either a cab or taking the Bus which goes down the Landstrasse eastwards (I forget the bus number). Get off at the Oberdorf Bushaltestelle.
Bus number 522
Having been at GT and PHG over the last 2 days and having been at Bernd's, I would suggest a non local should go to GT. The girls have excellent body language and their radar is good. If you look at them longingly, they will smile back and soon point to you to come over. Quality is very good. Sex on average may be hotter at Bernd's, but compared to what most people have back home, it's miles ahead.
I am from Australia, speak next to no German and would happily go alone to GT.
C1
Thanks for the patience and the answers Jackyo
1) I am not traveling from Frankfurt, am traveling from Hannover to Cologne.
2) I take the advice given here and so shall try out the Frankfurt Clubs even though Bernd's is closer and well is know to me the mother of all FKK clubs.
3) Have not tried the public sex thing ever in my life and so would have wanted to try that - I am kind of an adventurer, at least I would like to think so.
4) I am going back to Hannover again due to some work, so just wanted to go down there for the weekend and since Bernd's is closed on Saturdays, Friday is the only possible option left.
5) I have lived in Germany for 1 yr and well can manage German quite Ok, am not a fluent speaker by any means but I can manage to understand conversations and well sometimes even contribute something, but yes I cannot discuss German Literature or Politics with a German native for sure (I don't think you would even do that at Bernd's). I agree I am a bit of a lurker and am not that updated on my German socializing skills.
6) The whole or perhaps the only reason of going to Bernd's is because of the GFE, I have been to other RLD's and what not but reading the reports got me curious as to this GFE that Bernd's has to offer.
Thanks for your input guys, will go through the FRA Big 3 pages to see where I should go.
Have a good one.
1) Am a newbie to the FKK scene so would Bernd's be the way to break my FKK virginity :))
NO! It probably sounds very tempting after reading the hot reports over the last couple of years emanating from the mother of all clubs to make a beeline for Bernd's without passing go, but it's not a good idea. Bernd's is like a fine wine, to be savored, but if you've never had a good vintage wine before, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a classic vintage and a $5 port. And, the experience may sour you to fine wines forever.
Get some FKK mileage under your belt at some of the more popular clubs geared for the sex tourists like Oase and World in the FRA area or Samya, Living Room, or Golden Time in the Cologne/Dusseldorf area. Learn the intricacies, the modus vivendi, the tricks of the trade, what to look for and what you like. Then plan another trip to go to Bernd's.
2) From Hennef (Sieg) bahnhof, which U bahn do you take to get closest to Bernd's and how do proceed further from you drop-off point to Bernd's ? Or Is it best that you take a taxi coz those guys know the place like the back of their palm ?
From Hennef-Sieg Bahnhof, it's best to take a taxi. Costs 7-8 Euro and saves a hell of alot of time. The driver will know how to get to Lichtenberg, but don't assume that the taxi drivers will know the way to Bernd's. Tell him to take you to the Hotel Reuter. Schieferhof is the first left after the hotel.
3) After having read the reports, I get the impression that Bernd's is for rich European businessmen or rich American tourist or guys who are 30+ or 40+ European/American guys looking to have a great time and I am an Asian guy so would I stick out like a sore thumb there (keeping in mind that the pricing of the club is not an issue here.
As a rich American Tourist/businessman/guy who is 30+/American guy looking to have a great time (LOL), I can assure you that an Asian guy for whom pricing is not an issue would fit in just fine. I've seen many Asian guys, who left with sore body parts, and it wasn't their thumbs...
4) Am looking for a good time and most imp a good GFE. So is Bernd's the way to go ?
Read my answer to 1. We're all looking for a good time. You can get GFE at any of the clubs. It gets much easier to find with experience and FKK confidence.
5) As far as the time goes I think reaching Bernd's by 1500 hrs and back by 2100 hrs should be quite sufficient, if I am not worn out and well have to leave coz I just can't take it anymore :))
Is f*cking hot horny women such a reprehensible act that you would have to leave, or can't take it anymore?
If you're in Cologne, using public transport and time is an issue, try Samya or travel to Living Room in Kaarst, both of which are more easily accesible by train service.
Whatever, Njoy and report.
It is "Schwammkopf". Schwamm = sponge and Kopf = head. Equals spongehead.
The original name in English I think was SpongeBob SquarePants.
Hessen Bub
I should have checked my dictionary for correct spelling.
On my last trip I had the pleasure of also meeting Svenja.
In a few words: a man would want for nothing more with a woman like this at his side (or on top of him or under him, for that matter).
She is 24, been in the profession for 4 years, is from Bonn. Her father is Italian, her mother German. Dark straight hair, petite, nice proportional frame. Excellent service as one would expect from a Bernds girl. Very communicative and funny just as I like them.
I'd seen her on previous trips but never actually had the pleasure. I thought I would seize the moment on this past trip and not allow her to get away.
Its a decision I do not regret making.
Other details of my visit:
Nothing has changed at this club since my last visit. I already mention below the girls who aren't working there any more. The only new ones were Bianca, the Calista Flockhart look-alike and Sandy (who the Breadman met).
It was Layla's (or is it Leila's) birthday and they had a cake and some Sekt to pass around. I hooked up with a couple of RF guys I've known for years who had also come to see her: Feldi and Wolfl.
It was as well a chance to catch up on gossip and developments which sometimes don't make it to the forum proper.
One of the things we toasted to was the Hof's placing three of its girls in an RF survey: Babsi, Mara and Katja. Katja was named Blasshase. Quite an accomplishment for the little, tiny Hof.
I also conversed in French with Princess. She's quite funny.
One of the weirder guests was a foreign dude (I won't say what nationality) who insisted on getting close to the public action and jacking off. The Breadman was more of a direct witness to this than I was. But nothing, absolutely nothing shocks the Hofteam.
One of the weirder guests was a foreign dude (I won't say what nationality) who insisted on getting close to the public action and jacking off. The Breadman was more of a direct witness to this than I was. But nothing, absolutely nothing shocks the Hofteam.
I know jacking off is sort of out of place in an FKK, but in a swingers club its sooo the norm. Take Showboat in Amsterdam - dozens of guys jacking off there to the action.
Katja was named Blasshase. Quite an accomplishment for the little, tiny Hof.
Katja also came in second in the 2006 Miss FuckandBlow rankings on another forum. But surely it's Blashase? The other one is a pale animal indeed.
Katja also came in second in the 2006 Miss FuckandBlow rankings on another forum. But surely it's Blashase? The other one is a pale animal indeed.
I stand corrected.
Two "s"s would imply the animal (a hare in this instance) was rather pale.
Speaking of Hase, Easter is in a months time and the timing would be good to get together with the Blashase and have her work on the Eier.
i know jacking off is sort of out of place in an fkk, but in a swingers club its sooo the norm. take showboat in amsterdam - dozens of guys jacking off there to the action.
i've seen it many times at fkk clubs, particularly by older guys. the very first time i saw it was actually at zeus in switzerland, where a guy stationed himself all day on a couch which was positioned looking out over the hallway where all the private rooms were located. every once in awhile he would get up to peek in one of the rooms, otherwise he just sat there and jacked himself off, with a wad of used tissues to show for his efforts by his side.
in oase a few years ago, i was approached by one of the women who told me that this guy who was sitting off to the side, asked if i was willing to go to a room with her on his dime, with the condition that he be allowed to sit there and watch us while he jacked off. what free candy?!
a couple of months ago in the hof, there was an orgy going on in the open room off the downstairs bar. a bunch of the older german guys stood there jacking off. one of them called over one of the girls and asked her to blow him and help him jack off while he watched.
at the hof it's not considered unusual behavior- if katja et al, can sit there splayed open and stroke their muschis, the customers can stroke their own equipment as much as they want.
At the Hof it's not considered unusual behavior- if Katja et al, can sit there splayed open and stroke their muschis, the customers can stroke their own equipment as much as they want.
I noticed Mara doing a guy in the public room downstairs on the couch...then noticed this dude wacking off about 2 feet away at the end of the couch. Thought it was a bit strange...
Later overheard Mara telling the guy off for doing that...she later told me she asked the guy she was doing if he minded, when he said he didnt she let it go until she got him alone.
Well I decided to take my Dad to Bernds since they cater to older gentlemen and I had heard some really good reports about going there. Got really lost getting there. Took the exit into Hennef instead of going to Litchenberg (Sp?)
Finally found the place, its in a residential area in a normal looking house. Anyways, I had taken Viagra again and my cock was saluting at full attention as soon as I entered the door. I was met by two naked women, one who gave my Dad and I a quick tour of the facilities. That was a nice touch. Well I met a really pretty girl named Inna from Germany. She had really beautiful blue eyes with a petite figure. We started with deep french kissing at the couch, my cock was at full attention under the towel with no sucking needed.
We went to the Zimmer and we started with more DFK, then 69, Cowgirl and Missionary. I was really deep fucking her, power drilling her like I was drilling for oil in Southern California. It was a really super fuck session and she was amazed at how long I lasted. Wanted to leave, but she wanted to cuddle on the bed some more before we left. That was nice.
Went to the sex kino room and my Dad was there on the couch. He told me later that some German asked him in front of everyone if he spoke German and he said he sure wish he did and everyone broke out laughing. He said he didn't want a session right now so I went and spoke and hooked up with another girl. Can't remember her name but she had a deep tan. Had a deep fuck session with her again power drilling her and I did finally cum so I had two cums so far.
Finally went downstairs and began public blowjob session with Anna from Poland. We DFKed some more on the couch and then she asked if I wanted to go to Zimmer. We went to the Zimmer and the Viagra again helped me get another good hard on. I fucked her really good but this time couldn't cum. I think her pussy may have been a little loose for my cock so after about 30 minutes of fucking I ended the session without cumming. Still had a good session with her.
As I walked to the shower, there was some public fucking going on in the see though window and of course I took a quick glance. I went back up stairs and asked my Dad how it was going. He said that he didn't really see anyone that he really wanted to fuck and his libido was down today. I asked him afterwards if he still had a good time and he said for sure. Even though he didn't fuck, every time he learns something from a new experience and enjoys the time spent learning. So we had two meals before we left. All in all I think we saw around 15 girls working and 20 men during the time we were there. We left around 5PM when it started picking up in business some more.
Of course, Inna and Anna met me at the door and said goodbye. Tomorrow we are heading up further North and plan on hitting one or two Partytreffs, GT, LV and maybe PHG. More reports to follow!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
To end my European soiree I decided to finish at Bernds after three other fine visits over the weekend to GT, PHG and Traum Paradies.
I arrived shortly after opening at 1pm and was greeted at the door by a naked girl. Even though this was my third visit, the initial shock never fails to excite you. My last visit had been on a Friday and it had been very busy, in fact too busy. Monday is a good day to go as the boys have the whip hand.
I saw only Anna from Poland that I had previously had the pleasure of and today was to be a different day, no blondes. Anna is blond so, sorry, off the list.
I decided Tanja was to be the first. She is 27, short dark hair, 160cms and cute. She is from the Ukraine and speaks a little English, so patchy chat was fine. After the couch action we headed to a room and the BBBJ continued with gusto. The Bernds girls have PhDs in cock sucking and anyone who knows will agree. These girls do the lot, spitting, licking, swallowing.....well you get the idea. After she had me going I decided to return the favour and almost had her orgasm. But true to form for younger girls, she backed off from the edge. I assume this is so their clits don't become over sensitive which could dampen the next guys fun.
So on to the sex. She sucked me for a minute and the condom was slid on without me knowing it. She then jumped on reverse cowgirl, and slowly eased her way on. She is a small girl and has a very tight pussy. We got going and she spun round to cowgirl before getting me on top for mish and then doggy. After a while I eased her flat on to her stomach and we continued the doggy, with her tight butt now clamped around everything I have. Things were developing so I suggested we finish CIM and she happily agreed. Off came the dom and five minutes later I was bouncing off the roof as I blew. Whew...
She complimented me on the taste of my cum and my oral skills. It's a big honour to be marked up by girls who see a lot of cock in a week, so I was very happy.
When I got back from the shower she suggested I should have a 3some with another Russian girl plus her later. A couple of drinks, some passive German language training and a banana later I was motioned back over to Tanja. The young Russian girl (Rita) was not with her so I asked what was going on. She said, well we should do it with Katya. Katja is Russian, 38 (looks 30 max), dark curly hair, 175cms and has a sweet face. She is also a hornbag! The two girls started pashing me and sucking me off in tag team while everybody watched. The look was awesome I have to say and we decided to go to a room. But it wasn't any room, it was the Bernds Kino.
We lay down and this was to be the sex of a God scenario. I just lay there as one then the other pashed or sucked me, then one sucked while the other sat on my face. Tanja was already sensitive so couldn't take a lot more, but then came Katya. This girl rocks and loved my oral so much she orgasmed hard. She then stuck my fingers in her pussy so I could feel how wet she was and we could share the juices. Heaven!
Now the girls took turns riding me as I lay there with one riding and one pashing. I was playing and stroking everything in sight and even a few things out of sight. Katya likes her anus played with so of course I helped out. Now only one thing was left and that was to enjoy Katya's 13 years of experience at Bernds. If you work it out she must have sucked off 1,000s of cocks in that time, and experience shows. Tanja worked my balls and butt and Katya spat and slobbered until I hit that damn roof again! When I settled down, the two girls snuggled in and pashed me like their favourite lover and Katya mentioned my fine tasting cum again. What's more she loved my oral, so I am well in with Russians.
Another shower, quiet rest in the corner and some dinner followed. The food is pretty good I have to say and hit the spot. I knew I had to get out by no later than 9 as I have a big day ahead of me tomorrow, so I decided I would go for another 3some, this time with oral queen Katja and with the beautiful and sexy Rita. Rita is about 25, Russian, like Katya speaks good English, 162cms, brunette shoulder length and has a great body. We went to a closed room this time so as not to give another free porno show and the same (that sounds terrible, but let me tell you it's not) sort of thing happened again. I pashed both girls, they both sucked me, Katya orgasmed again, Rita got very close and backed off, great doggy with Rita, slow and deep which she loves, mish, reverse cowgirl and doggy with Rita. It was all too much really and I was in sensory overload.
Then came the fabulous oral and they tried their damnest with every trick they knew, but I was totally spent after sex with 8 girls in 3 days prior to the two of them and the big bang wouldn't happen. To tell you the truth I didn't care. The whole thing was fantastic and an orgasm for me was only a minor issue.
So, I decided to call it a day and I got dressed and paid my E250 total. The whole day had cost me E320 inc entry, I had sex with 3 great Russian girls, I was totally satisfied and to top it off, Rita and Tanja met me at the door, wishing me well and kissing me. I took one last look at their naked bodies as the door closed and knew I would return for them as soon as I could.
No wonder this is known as the best club in Germany. The friendship between the girls is awesome. There would have been 15 girls there at least and I know several who were on a day off too. Some are a bit older, but they still do a lot of business as their skills are honed to a peak.
C1
Thanks for the outstanding report, Cunning1.
You captured the mood and the excitement at Bernd's to perfection, just as the Russian ladies captured you. Having never done a Troika at Bernd's, your report has firmly placed it on my to-do list.
Great report.
Cunning 1 and Hamboner- both great reports and both capture some of the unique essence of Bernd's.
Katja is the mother hen for the Russian contingent and Tanja, Rita and the other women in her brood are always suggesting 3somes with her. Part of their payback. Not that Katja needs the marketing help. She is consistently rated as one of the top providers in the business.
BTW, in her 12 years in the business, she has sucked alot more than 1000. If she works 200 days a year and does only 5 men per day in 12 years she's done more than 12K...
BTW, in her 12 years in the business, she has sucked alot more than 1000. If she works 200 days a year and does only 5 men per day in 12 years she's done more than 12K...
LOL - Katja has indeed done a lot of mileage if you lay them end-to-end..............
For a woman like Katya her earnings per annum exceed comfortably those of most if not all of her male clients. Bernd's is open five days a week excluding public holidays. Katya takes maybe a month off. As one of the most popular women in the club five men a day would be a poor average. it is nearer six or seven. so let's say around six which works out at between 90,000 and 100,000 Euros a year gross accounting for taking days off for female reasons. This does not include extras in the club or any private work she does at weekends. It's a strict rule in the club that no girl does private work but they all do it on the side. Every trick has his favourite and those with the dosh are willing to pay for private sessions.
So how many mongers on this forum earn that kind of money?
Furthermore Katya in terms of her profession is not one of the really high earners. A woman who works totally private charges a minimum of 150 Euros an hour, with 50 a time for extras. The best of these have around five clients a day. So we are looking at a comfortable 150,000 Euros gross a year, which can rise to close on 200,000 when you take into account overnights, weekends, gangbang parties and so on.
From this of course every woman has to deduct her expenses such as rental whether in the form of the daily fee clubs charge or the rent for an apartment and advertising. The latter is actually the cheapest outgoing. A month's fee in Sexrelax.de is 100 Euros and entry in Freiclub.de is free so long as the girl gets picked as a top tip by the men who run Freiclub. Katya and all club girls pay quite a high rental per day compared to renting an apartment and sharing the costs with at least one other girl. It is always an advantage to work with another girl as she can offer threesomes and hold the occasional private party for their better guests. All of which boost earnings considerably.
The best bonus is that prostitution in Germany is legal, so by and large women don't need pimps, and they can deduct all their expenses against tax. Unfortunately the sex industry is still run by a mafia of rocker gangs and equally unfortunately many girls come into the business via some pimping operation with the guy taking half her earnings as payment - the well known 'boyfriend'. Bernd's for example pays 500 Euros for every new girl it takes on, so long as the girl stays six months. So the pimp gets an upfront bonus plus an incentive to keep the girl at the club. Naturally the pimp can't wait for his money so he deducts the 500 from the girl's initial earnings.
There are many high earners in Germany but with 400,000 prostitutes if you said five thousand earned the kind of money I am taking about that leaves a huge number earning a great deal less. Among the worst off are the girls who work in 'puffs'. Fifty per cent of what they earn is taken by the house. The very worst paid are women in a partytreff who may get 250 Euros for a ten hour day if they are lucky. At this kind of 'earnings per dick' ratio the girl has to be either doing it for the fun or for pocket money.
With such high earnings possible the competition between the girls is fierce. In Bernd's particularly so. Every girl has to fight for her corner with the biggest spats being over 'stealing' clients. I wouldn't personally be taken in by all the praise they might heap on your sexual prowess. If anything they are praising the thickness of your wallet. The first lesson in selling is make a friend. Of course they want to make you happy because they want you back and back for them and not one of the other girls.
If you had the potential to earn a six figure salary in cash each day, what would you not do to get it?
So how many mongers on this forum earn that kind of money?
Certainly very few after costs related to FKK visits.
I wouldn't personally be taken in by all the praise they might heap on your sexual prowess.
Hey, what have they been telling you about my sexual prowess? LOL.
Very interesting survey. Rings true. Mind you, I don't think that earnings on this scale are ever reported to the tax inspector. Guess he gets a freebie occasionally.
Of course, most mongerers can work for considerably longer at their careers than the women here. They have career spans like footballers, I guess. With spending habits to match in many cases no doubt.
I must say that I have never noticed any competitive tension among the girls at Bernd's.
The clever ones go into management themselves and run either agencies or houses - as you say like soccer players. As for us mongers, well we have a duty to explore all avenues of fun. To this end I would advise getting a girlfriend or wife (your own or someone elses) and joining a couples only website. This is a ticket to as much sex as you could possibly wish for in as many combinations as you could imagine. Beverly is only the tip of the iceberg in this regard. Out there is a world of pairs getting down and dirty as only (it seems) Germans can. This woud be a great addition to one's pay sex activities. Actually you would probably meet some of the girls you paid to have, they also belong to couples clubs!
I have noticed a lot of Customers with tensions that were quickly relieved of them by a visit to the zimmer with any of the girls at Bernd's. Once I saw some very sharp words between two of the girls - but only once.
I do know some mongers who would be considered to be very well heeled and meeting and well exceeding Marlow's scale. Almost invariably, they are very quiet about their situation and you would not know it if you did not know them well. They also take much more than average care not to 'spoil/ruin' the girls or the club they are in - even if they can if they wished due to their financial situation. They know what they have and are comfortable with it without needing to display it. I have known some of them to walk away from a club or escort girl who they felt was trying to bump the price stakes since they felt a need to practice price discipline for the benefit of themselves sure but also mongerdom in general. I have observed a genuine feeling of cameraderie and concern among mongers who are both while mongering and in life what one would call 'class acts'. It is hoped that the majority of ISG members fall into this latter category, their financial resources notwithstanding since this has little to do with being a class act.
But then again, they are for the most part 'gentlemen' and win out this way with the girls in p4p or other cirlces with only the light scent of money wafting around them that any girl is born with the ability to pick-up on and they usually do. Talk to most club girls around the world, as we do, and almost invariably they will describe a guy as being a "gentleman" if he was. It is about the highest level of praise that a working girl can give with honesty - if accompanied by $$$ then she is in heaven and the lucky guy will more often than not experience a way above average session/meeting. On second thought, remove the lucky guy comment - he has worked very hard on all his skills/personality/financial situation in order to put himself in that situation.
we are all gentlemen, and all gentlemen pick up the tab. It is the way the world is arranged.
Nick The G
03-07-07, 20:54
From this of course every woman has to deduct her expenses such as rental whether in the form of the daily fee clubs charge or the rent for an apartment and advertising. As a rule of thumb, a constantely working (6-7 days a week) and really good SP in an FKK-Club can earn 20.000,- Euros per month after her expenses, but before tax.
Of course, if they work this hard, they need breaks and in sum they usually don't work more than 8-9 full month a year. Girls from e.g. Romania or Bulgaria cannot stay/work officially longer than 6 month per year in Germany.
The girls really don't know whom to give a big share of their income, either to the german government as tax or their "business partners". In most cases, "business partners" have better information in the first place and strong arguments to convince these women to give those 50 percent or more to them.
Many girls don't want to pay any taxes in Germany. They say, I will only stay for a limited time, e.g. a three month period here, and then go back. But in most cases, they will stay away for three month and afterwards (need to) come back again and again.
The best bonus is that prostitution in Germany is legal, so by and large women don't need pimps, and they can deduct all their expenses against tax. Unfortunately the sex industry is still run by a mafia of rocker gangs and equally unfortunately many girls come into the business via some pimping operation with the guy taking half her earnings as payment - the well known 'boyfriend'. Most women working as prostitutes in Germany come from abroad. E.g., if they come from the east european countries, the day they cross the border until the day they go back to their home country they are "under contract".
Contracts may last for a time period of one or two years. They have to pay on a day by day base a certain sum to their "business partners" who usually speak the same language. If the women want to have a free day, it's a reduced sum. I have heard of up to 300 Euros per day when they want to have a free day.
A business model for a hard working SP I have already mentioned in an older posting:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=441317&postcount=1289
Other price models include, that the women who start in this job have to pay a certain fixed amount, lets's say something between 30.000,- to 50.000,- Euros to their business partners within a certain time range (phase 1). After they have paid this sum, they are free to leave the job and go back, they are not free to work on their own, in the same or in another club. If they want to continue in this job (phase 2), they are "allowed" to continue and get other, hopefully better conditions from the same guy. Or they have established in phase 1 some good connections to members of these rocker gangs, e.g. security guys or even higher hierarchy in the clubs, who then, in phase 2 - take over the role as business partner sometimes asking more moderate conditions.
The less clear the legal situation of a SP, the higher the sum she has to pay.
The better the SP (in terms of working hard, making money and ruining herself), the higher the position of the business partner in the "system".
Since this business is hard, some significant expenses have to be taken into account for substances and liquids to „stabilize“ body and psyche.
Iseeu and Excess, thanks for the comments. Happy to give the real deal if you get some appreciation form my fellow mongers.
Excess, as a gentleman I would never write down that someone of the quality of Katja has sucked 10,000 cocks, even if we all know it's a possibility!
On the financial front, as a "foreigner" from down under, and doing alright thanks, I know that I will win no friends by paying above or even below the market rate. There's a price which works for all, and these clubs are a shining light on supply and demand. What I get paid an hour and what I pay out is something I am more than happy with.
Show resepct and be respected and we'll all live happily ever after with empty sacks.
C1
Interesting stuff. I was talking more about German born women who have none - or in theory should have none - of the 'contract' problems those from the Ost bloc do. It's like every selling operation in many ways, money is witheld in some form to ensure you don't skip off and take your clients elsewhere. Look how time share is run to pick one example. Yes there is huge money to be made as a certain English woman will tell you - if you can get visiting permission in the french jail where she sits. She was the most successful madam in Europe having numerious lap tops, cell phones and a line up of great girls. she is estimated to have stashed away at least five million pounds.
Indeed nice to hear from one of the many Gentlemen who are both from Down Under and that is also one of their favorite positions.
May I ask, Cunning1, for future reference if you might be from the 'West island', or the North or South islands? I did like the report as mentioned and may we meet at Bernd's one day. I can claim citizenship of the North Island, myself.
Update: my question is answered - I read back a couple of posts, thanks Cunning1.
Ok - time to move back firmly on topic.
I returned to Berndt’s after a long absence. I saw several of the older not quite top tier girls that have been mentioned here, but there were also some young cute ones. There was one who was a 10 or at least close and several solid sevens. One of the nicer looking girls was Mara, a short dark haired girl with an athletic body and a nice C size chest. I asked her where she was from and my heart sank when she said Holland. I asked her if we could do it there in the room and she said sure. So I was hopeful, but was prepared for the worst. It was far from the worst. It was great gf sex in several positions right on the sofa, first cowgirl, then missionary and spoon. At the end of it I asked if I could do cim and she said yes, but it ended up not being very porno with all of it going into her mouth and then into a paper towel. It never made contact with air. We cleaned up, went to the desk, and she quickly wrote something on my slip, flipped it over, and slid it to the manager behind the desk.
As soon as I was done I noticed Lila, the almost ten. She also agreed to sex in the main room in the far corner facing the bar. She did a long and great blow job and then I got on top of her, but after a short time she said that it was too much for her and she would rather blow me. I asked if I could do cim and she said yes, but soon after doing it I regretted it. Now it seemed that she was trying to upsell to cim by claiming sex was difficult. I had read that cim was usually included, but maybe this was an exaggeration. Lila was suspiciously eager to do cim, and Mara didn’t seem to want me to see what she wrote on my slip. Maybe I had just paid for two cims that I hadn’t intended to pay extra for. After the session I stewed for a short and then I asked to see my slip. The cim really was included and I had stressed for nothing. I later talked to a guy by the shower who said that what is great about this club is that nothing is extra.
Did that go for lesbian action too? I asked Tanya, a nice short black haired Russian girl and she said yes. I asked if she had a special friend and she picked Mara. We went to the room behind the window on the lower floor. There were a lot of people in the living room on the other side of the glass because one of the bargirls was retiring after many years at the club and there was a party for her.
The action was great. They kissed each other passionately. They both went down on me at the same time. They both did p2m. We only used one condom, even when I switched girls. At one point I asked Mara if she loved Tanya. She said yes. I said she should tell Tanya and she went crazy. She jumped on Tanya, saying “I love you so much”, kissing her and holding her tight. We finished with a double cim.
I did my last session with Ana. She was tall with short blonde hair and a great size D chest. I asked if we could do it in the living room downstairs, but she said it was too crowded, so I asked about the living room upstairs and she said ok. When we got there it was mostly empty anyway, but it was nice. I was tired out so we went at it for a long time, including a great long bj that ended with cim. There was never any sign of complaint or fatigue on her part.
Summary:
Mara, 22, from Rotterdam,
Looks 7, chest C
Short boyish wavy dark brown hair,
Sex in living room with cim.
Lila, 25, Turkish Kurd from Diyarbakir,
Looks 9, chest D
Long wavy streaked brown and blonde hair
Sex in the living room in the corner facing the bar, cim.
Mara (again), and
Tanya, 26, Ukraine,
Looks 7, chest A,
Shoulder length wavy blk hair. Thick short figure
Sex in the windowed room in the basement while party was going on next door. Lots of lesbian action and double cim.
Ana, 25, Poland,
Looks 7, chest D
Short blonde hair that curves around her head. Tall with a soft figure.
Sex in the main room, but everyone was downstairs. Cim.
Note: The report for my whole trip is in the FKK World section.
Yes, Bernd's absolutely smokes. This is the place to go, but maybe not the first time as mentioned further below.
But Mara must be chest A, isn't she? Not C anyway. If nothing particular has happened during the winter season of course.
Well, it's not a big deal. I will check that personally on the coming Monday...
But Mara must be chest A, isn't she? Not C anyway.
Unless you eat mushrooms...;) Great reports Catalyst!
Mara, 22, from Rotterdam,
Looks 7, chest C
Short boyish wavy dark brown hair,
Sex in living room with cim.
Lila, 25, Turkish Kurd from Diyarbakir,
Looks 9, chest D
Long wavy streaked brown and blonde hair
Sex in the living room in the corner facing the bar, cim.
Mara (again), and
Tanya, 26, Ukraine,
Looks 7, chest A,
Shoulder length wavy blk hair. Thick short figure
Sex in the windowed room in the basement while party was going on next door. Lots of lesbian action and double cim.
Ana, 25, Poland,
Looks 7, chest D
Short blonde hair that curves around her head. Tall with a soft figure.
Sex in the main room, but everyone was downstairs. Cim.
Mara is actually a B cup...
Leila is a C cup...
Tanja is a B cup
and Ana is a C cup.
Yes, Bernd's smokes - but what were you smoking?
Great report.
Mara is actually an A cup...
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Id have to say Mara is a medium B cup. Not a C cup but larger than an A.
I didn't have my tape measure with me, so I'm estimating these measurements from memory, and I may have some of them wrong. I can say for sure there's no way Mara was smaller than Tanya.
Id have to say Mara is a medium B cup. Not a C cup but larger than an A.
Oops, my bad. Fixed it in my post. Sorry Mara....
It's good to see so many folks re-discovering Bernds. The girls do an excellent job, hand picked by the management and test driven before being let loose- to be loose. There are girls who won't work there for one reason and one reason alone, but no other club comes near for consistency. There have been poor times at Bernds but that's so with any club.
Hollandmale
03-10-07, 17:24
According to the local forums, Jenny and Laila have left Bernds.
That's bad news, but there's great news as well: Stella is back :).
Hollandmale
03-11-07, 09:21
..... is in the Hof since a couple of weeks. She receives very good reports on the local forums for her service and looks. Dalia seems to be a very similar girl as Didem. She's also Turkish and German raised, quite tall and slender, long blond hair, pretty looks and very good service, both on the couch and in the room. Although new in Bernds, Dalia seems to fit in perfectly ;).
Shame about Jenny; I could happily spend hours with her.
So who does the test driving? I can get a licence if need be!!!
C1
Shame about Jenny; I could happily spend hours with her.
So who does the test driving? I can get a licence if need be!!!
C1
Well someone's gotta do it. I'm planning my monthly inspection one day next week. If she looks like she needs it I'll grease and lube Dahlia and burn some rubber...
It is "Schwammkopf". Schwamm = sponge and Kopf = head. Equals spongehead.
The original name in English I think was SpongeBob SquarePants.
Hessen Bub
.. from somewhere.
And here is is:
Schwalm
The Schwalm is a river in Hesse, Germany, right tributary of the Eder. It rises on the north side of the Vogelsberg Mountains. It flows north through Alsfeld, Schwalmstadt and Borken. The Schwalm flows into the Eder near Wabern, east of Fritzlar, after a total length of 97 km.
There is also a Schwalm river somewhere near the Dutch border just to the West of Duesseldorf.
There is also a Schwalm river somewhere near the Dutch border just to the West of Duesseldorf.
Runs right through Brüggen.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Sorry, but you guys have really lost it! LOL
qualifications vary. either you have to be the son of the owner (may God rest his long departed soul - heart attack was the reason) or his former partner who was a German middle weight boxing champion. If I'm right the son married one of the girls, a hungarian who went by the name of Vivien - damn him!
After a long winter it was time for the years first visit to Bernds. With the visit to Geizstall on Friday in fresh memory, I really was looking forward to a club where quality is at the top level. I had booked a room at hotel Reuter just 300 m from the club and the room key delivered to club. I parked my car just outside Reuter and walked the few meters in the sun down to Bernds. It was +15 degrees and a wonderful spring day.
Mara’s car was not to be seen outside the club. A slight disappointment, but OK, the car might be on service. And there are of course other girls as well.
Entering the club I was greeted by a new girl I have never seen before. Might be the one called Dahlia below. Looking around I saw three other new girls. Obviously there have been some changes. Mara was standing by the bar - the day was saved. I was greeted by Connie in a good mood – she said something like welcome back in German.
Quick change and shower and then focus on the important issues. Where was Mara? Found here by the bard and quickly off to the sofa downstairs. Some nice socializing, what has happened during the winter etc. She was in a good mood. Had won some cycle competition during the weekend before. Still exercising just as much as before.
The room was waiting so off we went. I was her first customer for the week, so she was really fresh. No use going into all details. Responsive nipples (on A-cups I insist), wet pussy that you can eat on for ever and she gives BBBJ as a goddess. We spent a good one and a half hour and I think I made her come at least once. You never know. I decided to keep my load not to get too tired at the beginning of the day. Some small talk and after a while she started to clean up the bed. Looking at that bottom from behind made me horny as hell so I just had to have her again. No resistance to that, more the contrary. We spent another hour of fucking and sucking. After that, some more small talk and I felt it was time for a short brake. I needed to fill up with some water. She asked with a smile how short the brake was intended to be...I said too long, because I needed to get some fresh air. Hell, were where these clubs when I was 20?
After this extremely good start of the day I started to look around. Unfortunately I have a bad memory for names. There were several new girls whom I don't remember. The only thing I can say in certain cases is that Bernds absolutely offer someone for everyone’s taste.
Stella is someone to my taste and absolutely to put on the to-do list. She spent a god half hour in the sofa sucking a guy before they went off to the room. She seems to know what she is doing, and she is very good looking to my taste. The very thin girl Ina was moving around with a lot of guests. I have not had a meeting with her, I get the slight feeling she moves on a little bit too fast to my taste. Very quickly back from the room and short time on the sofa. But I’m not sure.
The Monday was very quiet. Not many guests but a good number of girls. I felt recovered and started to look for Mara again. Then all of a sudden all girls were called upstairs to the management. The boss had something to say to them. Obviously there is some competition going on between clubs, some foul play sometimes, and girls going back and forth between clubs. Might be the reason why some have left, or have been forced to leave?. It felt rather strange though with only men and not one single girl in the club.
Half an hour later they all were back. Took Mara with me to a room. One hour of 69. She was very responsive and I used a finger to help it out. Here whole body was shivering extensively and she really sounded to appreciate it. I moved my precious piece slightly aside. Don't want getting a bite. A few seconds of recovering and then she continued her BBBJ until I finised with CIM.
After this I really had to get something to eat. The plan was to continue with some action after the late dinner, but I felt too drained. Tanya went around and loudly declared she wanted to do some cock-sucking. Finally she took care of a gentleman by the bar while he was drinking his beer. This Bernds tradition is something special. I decided to call it day despite previous plans. Better to leave when you are on the top, and my mood really was. There has to be a new visit soon.
The very thin girl Ina was moving around with a lot of guests. I have not had a meeting with her, I get the slight feeling she moves on a little bit too fast to my taste. Very quickly back from the room and short time on the sofa. But I’m not sure.
.. very young blonde who looks like Calista Flockhart and also has Calista Flockhart's body?
I like a woman with a little more meat on her bones.
There is a Polish blonde, by the way, I've seen at both Cocoon and Heavensgate who looks just like Cameron Diaz.
Routard has been with her and describes a session with her on the French forum. I know the Breadman has been with her too.
I'd be interested in meeting a full size German blonde who looks like Elisabeth Roehm from Law and Order, by the way. Any ideas?
E. Roehm apparently was born in Duesseldorf and is half German, half American.
Law and Order got rid of her in a very lame episode. She is fired and intriguingly asks something like: "Is it because I'm a lesbian?" Her boss doesn't reply. (I can't remember though if it was Sam Waterstone who fires her or Fred Thompson).
Could the Calista Flockart have being wearing Uggs and spoting a wonderfull tan line on her behind?
I believe the tall polish girl is names Anna. Great service.
Tanya a short russian girl with very dark eyes should no be missed. Good things come in small packages.
All that has been written about this place is true.
Could the Calista Flockart have being wearing Uggs and spoting a wonderfull tan line on her behind?
She of the furry short boots, new blonde do, lithe body, glorious pussy, strategic piercings, and too-much-tanning-salon white triangle front and aft.
Entering the club I was greeted by a new girl I have never seen before. Might be the one called Dahlia below. Looking around I saw three other new girls. Obviously there have been some changes.
There were several new girls whom I don't remember. The only thing I can say in certain cases is that Bernds absolutely offer someone for everyone’s taste.
Stella is someone to my taste and absolutely to put on the to-do list. She spent a god half hour in the sofa sucking a guy before they went off to the room. She seems to know what she is doing, and she is very good looking to my taste.
The New:
*Dahlia is the tallish big-boned blonde with fleshy(not fat) body. I spoke with her yesterday, but there was something missing in the eye contact, so I took a pass on the test drive even though she has been getting good reviews on the local boards.
*Kim is another tallish blonde, great proportioned body, really sweet and intelligent who's all around good looks raises the house score. When she explained in psychological mumbo-jumbo why she's Ok with the job, she had me sold. Good session although I would not say it was top Bernd's quality- she's holding soemthing back.
*Diana is showing some staying power as it's now about 3 months, although I still don't see her fitting in. Too reserved, although I did catch her a couple of times sitting with legs splayed to the side as the female inhabitants of the Hof are wont to when trying to attract a mating partner.
The Old:
* Stella looks chubbier than she used to? That bubble butt is now more than a couple of handfuls. Short, long black hair, 34C, nice smile. She's back and fits right back in.
The Bad:
News that is. One of the outstanding Hof regulars, who is very popular on this and other boards is planning on leaving the business in the fall. Can't give more details in public forum.
i was told yesterday by a few habitat regulars- lots of competition, many clubs in nrw offfering happy hour pricing, it's the 2nd half of the month, miserable wet winter keeps dragging on, local economy still in the doldrums, etc.
still, full lineup in house: agata, anna, babsy, brandy, dahlia, diana, ina, katja, kim, marcella, michelle, princess, rita, sabrina, sandy, stella, svinja, tanja, tatiana...but no more than 20 men total in the almost 6 hours that i was there.
i had some businessito do at cebit so drove over from hannover in just over 3 hours, route a7- a2- a1-a3-b560. would have taken half hour less, if not for all of the constructions sites and reduced speeds. since my 300 euro contribution to the autobahn constabulary, i've become more careful about those stupid change of speed signs. 300 euro is almost enough for another bernd's visit :-(.
in order to best gauge the true nature of the ecosystem on my monthly inspections, i usually check out one new inhabitant, one permanent inhabitant, and one of my favorites.
started with kim (gorgeous to look at, very intelligent, but she holds something back( 9 looks, 8 personality, 7 session) who is there just about a month. nice girl, hard to see her staying in the hof too long.
followed it up with anna, who i missed last time, and who still gives a great passionate session(8.5 looks, 7.5 personality, 9.5 session) who can be considered a permanent inhabitant.
for the coup de resistance, which i actually arranged during my last visit, an amazing 3-some with princess and marcella. they are close and friends outside the club so this had potential. it began with some hot girl to girl to boy kissing, me in the middle with this huge silly grin from ear to ear, sucking and licking on the upstairs couch, with a very appreciative audience all around us enjoying the show, and culminated with a sweaty, wild, wet, hedonistic free for all in the room with the big bed at the end of the upstairs hall. they were really into each other, marcella made princess come and then marcella returned the favor. at one point, going at princess's beautiful booty while she's lying on top of marcella rubbing boobs and pubic bones, i stuck out my tongue and went from booty to pussy to pussy to booty...wow, i was in heaven. we were all over that bed, trashed the couch, the bedding, the curtains, rolled onto the floor. it was wild. towards the end cuddling in a fetal sandwich, caressing, being caressed, smoldering, sticky, yummy...
it only lasted an hour as i had to run to catch a flight ( i have an overzealous pa), but i could have stayed in that room with those two forever. 20 minute drive to cologne bonn airport, returned the rental, caught the flight and less than 3 hours after leaving the sticky embrace of marcella and princess, i was doing drinks with a prospective business partner in frankfurt. he asked me if i felt ok since i looked a little flushed !!!!!
thinking of going to twice monthly inspections :-) how will i explain that to my pa?
a sweaty, wild, wet, hedonistic free for all in the room with the big bed at the end of the upstairs hall. They were really into each other, Marcella made Princess come and then Marcella returned the favor. At one point, going at Princess's beautiful booty while she's lying on top of Marcella rubbing boobs and pubic bones, I stuck out my tongue and went from booty to pussy to pussy to booty...Wow, I was in heaven. We were all over that bed, trashed the couch, the bedding, the curtains, rolled onto the floor. It was wild. Towards the end cuddling in a fetal sandwich, caressing, being caressed, smoldering, sticky, yummy...
Iseeu, what happened when the session got going?
Iseeu, what happened when the session got going?
Who remembers? LOL
Could the Calista Flockart have being wearing Uggs and spoting a wonderfull tan line on her behind?
I believe the tall polish girl is names Anna. Great service.
Tanya a short russian girl with very dark eyes should no be missed. Good things come in small packages.
All that has been written about this place is true.
Hey Visual,
I was good meeting you at Bernd's last week.
I heard people call that girl Mina and Nina. In fact as I was going into a room with Celine, I heard her clearly say that her name was Nina. Maybe it changes.
Cheers,
Dedalus
The New:
*Dahlia is the tallish big-boned blonde with fleshy(not fat) body. I spoke with her yesterday, but there was something missing in the eye contact, so I took a pass on the test drive even though she has been getting good reviews on the local boards.
Hey Iseeu,
She was one of the bunch on the day I was there who caught my eye and kept it for a while. I had just finished with Anna and had to regenerate, and so I missed her for the rest of the evening, but when I return to the Hof, she is one who I will be looking out for.
Btw; Who is the dark-haired, fake-boobed, smiling lass with a pretty good figure. Big eyes, fair complexion, probably early twenties. Seemed to be constantly busy.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Btw; Who is the dark-haired, fake-boobed, smiling lass with a pretty good figure. Big eyes, fair complexion, probably early twenties. Seemed to be constantly busy.
With a darkish complexion and killer body? That's Agata.
Hey Visual,
I was good meeting you at Bernd's last week.
I heard people call that girl Mina and Nina. In fact as I was going into a room with Celine, I heard her clearly say that her name was Nina. Maybe it changes.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Yes, that's Mina.
With a darkish complexion and killer body? That's Agata.
Hey Iseeu,
No, it wasn't Agata, although she was another one who caught my eye that day. The one I saw had a much more lighter complexion and a bit of a tighter body than Agata.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Well not any more, she isn't. Reports have it that Jenny and Monika were fired. For absenteeism.
Monika has been seen at the Hof this week so maybe she was just suspended for a while.
I can confirm that Monika was there today when I was there. She's looking pretty good for those of you who like her (and who wouldn't). Rita is back (from holiday) on Monday.
Great sessions with Tanja and Katja and a new one for me, Babsi. Everything said about her is true. Absolutely fantastic.
New girl today is Mona. Another girl like Marcela. Marcela is doing good business and will be a stayer.
Was told that of 10 starters, 5 are gone in 2 days and 2 out of ten become stayers. Not too busy today and fun for all.
C1
Hi Dedalus,
Nice meeting you too.
My only disappointment about Bernd's is that I left too early.
Almost everything that I have read about this place is true. It takes very little time to feel very comfortable. From the time you get the newbie tour to the kiss goodbye.
Can some let me know if Tanja wears the black chocker all the time? Definitely great sweet service.
In fact as I was going into a room with Celine...
Cheers,
Dedalus
... this is good to know.
She wasn't there when we were there.
Did she have her tits done? I hope not.
... this is good to know.
She wasn't there when we were there.
Did she have her tits done? I hope not.
Hey,
I felt no silicone. Not a bad session at all.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hey,
I felt no silicone. Not a bad session at all.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I am hoping this is the way Celine's tits shall remain.
"Finger weg von den Titten!" is what I'd like to say to her.
Went to Bernd's and had another great day. The more you go the better you become part of it.
I started with the Ukrainian, Tanja in celebration of the wonderful 4some experience I had in Sydney with an Aussie Ukrainian, Cassandra www.aprivateaffair.com.au and a Kiwi www.kellymartyn.com . Great sex and BBBJ CIF finish. Then moved on to Germany's Miss SucknBlow #2, Katja, from Russia, who is a must have. Had sent another guy to see her before I did, and he left after 20 mins with a huge grin. Asked him if it had been good as if it hadn't I would shout him the E50. No way, he was paying.
Told Katja had sent him to see her and she was pleased. She remembered her Aussie (that's me), but not my name (who cares). Got her off twice, fucked her on top, underneath and finished with a mega 69 closing with a mutual blow, me straight down her throat. That girl is an A+++ cocksucker.
Was watching a pretty, but obviously older blonde (43 as it happens, but oozes sexual confidence) for an hour or two off and on and she was smiling back. I was in no hurry so in the end she deliberately moved to a sofa and I moved from the bar where I had been watching porn, to say hello. Her name is Babsi, and as soon as I heard it, I knew it was jackpot time. She speaks great English and had spent 6 great months going from Sydney to Port Douglas, and had worked as a high class escort in all of the best hotels along the way.
Although some may consider her body is not as good as it once was, she still has what it takes. She got in to the DFK and then lent behind her and started stroking me (the famous Bernds move). Next thing she is doing another A+++ blowie in front of the assembled crowd and with the chocolate brown girl Princess, with the killer body, looking on.
Time for the room and 69d her until she had come 4 times. I think you know you've got it when you can get those girls off and keep them cumming. And then she says to me "I want you to blow your load down my throat" and I said "I want to kiss you first". So whilst on top, I'm rubbing my naked cock against her clit and her pussy is in torrents. She says "I think he wants to go in there?". I cover up and then we fuck soft then hard, spin her over, stick my finger in her butt, and fuck her till I blow way down deep inside her. It was lovely.
She's looking forward to me coming back and guess what, I am too.
Now I've been 4 times, I can easily handle the fact that my zero German ability is not an issue. Mara, Marcella, Katja, Rita and Babsi speak very good English and i'm sure more do too.
Interesting to see I now recognise some of the local guys. How many times a week do they go? Lucky bastards! Would you ever get bored?
C1
.. a post on the French forum, Bianca is half Australian, half German.
This might be of interest to our Aussie colleagues on this forum.
I didn't have a chance to check out her English but one of you might want to find out.
Jackyo,
Thanks for that. Which one is Bianca? I don't remember her.
Of course, she will be no good to Excess who only wants to root (f.ck) Aussies at Rugby and Cricket whilst wearing some very black outfits.
C1
Jackyo,
Thanks for that. Which one is Bianca? I don't remember her.
Of course, she will be no good to Excess who only wants to root (f.ck) Aussies at Rugby and Cricket whilst wearing some very black outfits.
C1
Hey C1,
She's about 5'2", very very tan with shoulder length brown hair, brown eyes, shaved. She's very tight (if I might reveal a small personal detail about her).
She looks 18 and she is 18.
Some guys have complained that she's not very experienced but she is very game and willing to try anything.
By the way, I once met an Australian woman who had lived in Switzerland for a while. She spoke Hoch Deutsch. Spoke some Schwyzertuetsch too.
All with an Aussie accent.
It was quite something else.
I don't remember her, but I tend to ignore the teenies, although if she can talk Okker Aussie then we could discuss chucking another shrimp on the barbie....or maybe I could just f..k the little barbie!
C1
I don't remember her, but I tend to ignore the teenies, although if she can talk Okker Aussie then we could discuss chucking another shrimp on the barbie....or maybe I could just f..k the little barbie!
C1
At 18 or 19 they need more ripening and practice with their technique. They are not all they are cracked up to be.
Its at 21 or 22 with several years of experience under their belt they are at their best.
Speaking of rooting - Jackyo ( I know that Cunning 1 is hopeless on detail) is Bianca the relatively new small German lady who is supposed to be and looks 18/19 or is there another one that is shy about blow jobs on the couch at Bernd's ?
The one iI saw on her first week or so at Bernd's was very attractive - 18/19 and had almost black hair nicely coiffed and in a sort of helmet style. She was shy about BJ's but I can report that I did see her once in the day performing as we all expect at Bernd's on the couches with her mouth full.
I did not have a chance to try her myself. Is this Bianca or another "B...".
Speaking of rooting - Jackyo ( I know that Cunning 1 is hopeless on detail) is Bianca the relatively new small German lady who is supposed to be and looks 18/19 or is there another one that is shy about blow jobs on the couch at Bernd's ?
The one is saw on her first week or so at Bernd's was very attractive - 18/19 and had almost black hair nicely coiffed and in a sort of helmet style. She was shy about BJ's but I can report that I did see her once in the day performing as we all expect at Bernd's on the couches with her mouth full.
I did not have a chance to try her myself. Is this Bianca or another "B...".
.. Bianca was at first shy about BJs on the couch but has since relented.
She is definitely petite, has very dark hair which is more brown than black though. Its shoulder length and more or less straight (its definitely not curly). Its her tan which makes her standout.
She has nice curves though. She's not flat as a board.
The only other B I can think of there is Babsi. No wait, there is someone else.. Celine's girlfriend, whats her name... Brandy. Don't think you'd get those two confused with Bianca though.
Someone wrote on the French forum that Celine is actually a lesbian and her partner is Brandy.
Thanks Jackyo.
No, I know the other two "B's" - Brandy and Babsi - no mistake there.
More research on the couches needed - if Bianca is the one that I am thinking of then glad to hear that she has 'lifted (adjusted) her game' on the couches. Very sweet looking girl and worthy of closer inspection as you report. Will also check on the French board for details.
Due to bad airplane connections, I missed out on a full free day at Bernd's last week - this is one 'session' that I do not want to repeat. :-((
Thank you.
To add some "detail"..for any of you who don't know rooting = fucking in Oz.
Babsi.....shivers.....best of the 9 sessions I have had in 4 days. May be more than twice Bianca's age, but experience works for me.
C1
PS How much detail do you need LOL
To add some "detail"..for any of you who don't know rooting = fucking in Oz.
I'd never have figured that out.
I was thinking: rooting.. hmm.. root vegetables..
Babsi.....shivers.....best of the 9 sessions I have had in 4 days. May be more than twice Bianca's age, but experience works for me.
C1
PS How much detail do you need LOL
Hmmmmm.... Babsi and I have had a longish-standing smoldering flirting relationship. Not been consummated as yet. She was first on my 'to-do' list for my last visit but she had a small eye operation that morning and was working behind the bar until she left late afternoon. So it was not to be.
As she has now been initiated to Antipodean ways by Cunning 1, it clearly is time for her move up a notch and get a "taste of Kiwi".
Will oblige on my next inspection tour.
I told her to stay away from Kiwis as they are crap at cricket. She told me she's not interested in All Black anyway!!!
But if she relents you will be a happy man mate, although she does prefer C1 type Aussies...LOL
C1
you go Black, you never go back.
Or so they so. :-))
All good things are mean't to be shared.
Tell her the Aussie guy she loves sent you..it will work...honest.
Hope we're not there on the same day!
C1
Hollandmale
04-11-07, 08:28
http://www.bernds-saunaclub.de/
Bernds announced a Frueling Party Monday April 30. The number of girls on Parties is usually around 20.
Parties at Bernds are usually very busy with clients. Be there 13.00 to avoid crowds if you're interested.
Please note that Bernds will be closed the next day May 1, due to Labour Day.
Sounds interesting...what are the these parties like??
http://www.bernds-saunaclub.de/
Bernds announced a Frueling Party Monday April 30. The number of girls on Parties is usually around 20.
Parties at Bernds are usually very busy with clients. Be there 13.00 to avoid crowds if you're interested.
Please note that Bernds will be closed the next day May 1, due to Labour Day.
I was originally thinking of driving down to World and Oase on monday and tuesday....but this sounds interesting.
Has anyone ever hit Bernds when they have a party like this?? Its a pretty small club, think my last visit there were 13 girls and maybe 20 guys at the busiest time. So 20 or more girls...and how many guys crowding into the club?
Just how many lockers are there?
Has anyone ever hit Bernds when they have a party like this?? Its a pretty small club, think my last visit there were 13 girls and maybe 20 guys at the busiest time. So 20 or more girls...and how many guys crowding into the club?
Just how many lockers are there?For the moment there are max. 23 girls at Bernds.
They might all be present at the party. There will probably be lots of guests.
The risk is that the club will be so overcrowded that you will not be able to move decently.
There are 28 lockers at Bernds. It might happen that all the lockers are already occupied at 13.30 h. So several guests (arriving together) will have to use one locker or they will have to give their cloth at the reception and they will be locked in a room upstairs.
Personally I avoid such parties.
I understand that the girls will not be naked for the party on Apr. 30. Lingerie.
Hi,
@Excess: thanks a lot.
@Toscana: indeed, then girls will not be naked.
Feinschmecker on the RF says a couple of the women from Bernds now work at Samya.
[Hinweis] Bianca aus dem Schieferhof, verwöhnt jetzt im Samya!
Bianca ist mit Jenny, Layla, und "???" schon die vierte Frau, die nun von der Sieg an den Rhein gewechselt hat!
Fazit: Bianca, Jenny, Layla and a fourth ex-Hof girl now are at Samya. He didn't know who the fourth girl is though.
it looks like my self-imposed ban on visiting Samya may be coming to an end. Glad for Bianca as she was never comfortable with the standard operating proceedures at Bernd's, and she may blossom in the Samya environment of less public warm-ups. Bernd's will remain the first port of call but with these 3 or 4, Samya's ladies will get a run for their money and perhaps get a dose of the service ethic that Bernd's is known for.
Good news.
Feinschmecker on the RF says a couple of the women from Bernds now work at Samya.
Fazit: Bianca, Jenny, Layla and a fourth ex-Hof girl now are at Samya. He didn't know who the fourth girl is though.
it looks like my self-imposed ban on visiting Samya may be coming to an end. Glad for Bianca as she was never comfortable with the standard operating proceedures at Bernd's, and she may blossom in the Samya environment of less public warm-ups. Bernd's will remain the first port of call but with these 3 or 4, Samya's ladies will get a run for their money and perhaps get a dose of the service ethic that Bernd's is known for.
Good news.
So when are you going to Koln to break your ban? Next week?
Ortos
Funny that you should mention it, Ortos.
I was looking at flight schedules last night and this morning concerning a possible deviation (excuse the expression) via Koeln for a trip that I am required to make towards the back end of May. Seems that the flights that I have taken previously and were perfect for Fkk'ing are not now available. This will be second time in two months that I have missed out on relaxing day in the region.
May be able to move it up - here's hoping.
is indeed at Samya, but under the name of Eleni.
i{Jenny) s indeed at Samya, but under the name of Eleni.
There is indeed mention of a Greek girl by that name in recent reports about Samya.
It can only be Jenny then!
Let's hope that the service ethic brought over from Bernds rubs off on the rest of the Samya Besatzung then.
Funny but on another forum I post on there was a dude who wanted to find a Greek girl. He had to specify that he wanted a girl from Greece, not one who would provide Greek.
it looks like my self-imposed ban on visiting Samya may be coming to an end. Glad for Bianca as she was never comfortable with the standard operating proceedures at Bernd's, and she may blossom in the Samya environment of less public warm-ups. Bernd's will remain the first port of call but with these 3 or 4, Samya's ladies will get a run for their money and perhaps get a dose of the service ethic that Bernd's is known for.
Good news.
These 3-4 women won't be the ones to change anything at Samya. Bianca never really fit in as was evident to anyone who saw her sitting for hours on the couch with her legs closed and a blank expression. Jenny, is sweet, but very quiet- not the leader type. Layla is spirited and fun, but always felt that she wasn't accepted into the German or E. European cliques.
Hollandmale
04-20-07, 05:44
Let's hope that the service ethic brought over from Bernds rubs off on the rest of the Samya Besatzung then.A Dutch forum confirmed that Jenny/Eleni and Laila apply Hof service in Samya, including pre-room DFK/BBJ in the bar.
The report also mentioned that they're still welcome in Schieferhof and are allowed to return whenever they want.
I see the point that you are making, Isseu, and I have no illusions that Samya will now rival Bernd's as to service levels and atmosphere.
However, my comment and hope was that all four should bring with them from Bernd's a big breath of fresh-air into Samya if they retain any semblance of the Bernd's esprit and service levels. As I have said in the past, Samya was my first stopping place in Koeln and I enoyed it up to more recent times. Lately I felt that it had degenerated attitude wise but still thought the facilities were excellent. Now, with the gang of 4 from Bernd's there may be sufficient mass to move the Samya attitude scale back up to acceptable levels, at least for me.
Bianca, I have commented on and also agree she wasn't comfortable with the demands of Bernd's public service activities. That's Ok, best for her to move on and glad that she perhaps has found a place that meets her comfort zone - she is very young.
There is for me the 5th Horsewoman at Samya - the lovely Nicole who I also wrote about earlier. Can't be missed as she alone follows the true FKK apparel guide and wears... nothing but a lovely shaved pussy. Will be interesting to see what the Bernd's 4 adopt as their dress code. Nicole appears on Wednesday evenings, is German and provided one of Excess' top 5 all-time sessions running over 2 hours. It simply worked and went on and on and on. So, will try to check in when it can be scheduled.
Thanks, Hollandmale, Samya with BBBJ at the bar and couches will certainly stir the place up and shake the rafters.
With reference to Layla and not fitting into the EE and German cliques, perhaps she will indeed be more comfortable at Samya as besides the nice facilities, I was told by a couple of the girls that the owner(s) are Turks or at least Turks with a long history in Germany as I understand is Layla.
These 3-4 women won't be the ones to change anything at Samya. Bianca never really fit in as was evident to anyone who saw her sitting for hours on the couch with her legs closed and a blank expression. Jenny, is sweet, but very quiet- not the leader type. Layla is spirited and fun, but always felt that she wasn't accepted into the German or E. European cliques.
The report also mentioned that they're still welcome in Schieferhof and are allowed to return whenever they want.I have my doubts about that. :rolleyes:
Tom Jefferson
04-21-07, 10:45
I am a total newbie to the German FKK / club scene though they are in easy reach for me, at least the famous NRW clubs. But I have some experience with chinese Saunas / MP and for this reason I always wanted to compare girls and service level between these scenes.
I made my homework and decided to try Bernd's, because there are no starfishes working there and this allows me to choose the girl of my liking.
I arrived early, work finished quicker than expected, and was introduced by Tanja (lovely face she has). I should have made one session with her, but somehow I missed my turn with her, busy as I was all day. So I owe her next time.
Quick shower and a drink in the living room. Nice chat with Celine (German) and the usual Schieferhof practice, BBBJ and DFK on the sofa, then FS in the room, finished with her on top. A nice first round. Now I was relaxed and could choose some more lovelies which were arriving little by little.
I spoke German with all girls and do not know which ones do speak english.
As it was a first time with each girl, I wanted to go with the flow, let the girls play there game. I was not very keen to tick off as many positions as possible, but to meet some lovely ladies and obtain GFE.
During this wednesday I could put some names to the faces:
Living Room
Celine, Monika, Michelle, Babsi, Princess and another young girl with black hair (not as slim as Rita)
Cellar Bar
Katja, Tanja, Brandy, Mara, Kim, Sandy, Rita
I tried the lunch (chicken stew on rice - good) and was ready for my next session. Meanwhile I have spotted Princess. I joined her on the sofa and we started a nice conversation. We discussed if she is more Martinique or Cameroon (agreed on first one). Then she showed me her tongue piercing - a nice sensation during her BBBJ. She likes to kiss and I needed no more advertising to book a room with her. Very gentle session, she decided to finish with BBBJ / CIM and I had no objections.
Now I was ready for some dessert (from the kitchen!) which was strawberry curd cheese. I love erotic massage and ordered one with Sandra when I arrived. Due to traffic congestions she arrived late. All ladies in the Schieferhof are fully naked, the barkeeper ladies are fully clothed and the massage girl Sandra sports a tracksuit. When it was my turn for massage (25,- EUR / 30 Min.) she called me upstairs. In the room she stripped to the panties and asked which kind of massage I like. Again I went with the flow and let her do anything she likes.
If you want "extra" services (BBBJ, HJ) you have to negotiate beforehand (and it costs additional 50,- EUR). I opted for the extras, but did not specify which one.
As usual she started to massage back and legs (and feet, if you like). How do I love these words "please, turn-over" spoken by a gorgeous young lady, when you do not know which kind of surprise will follow.
She started to kiss me all-over, followed by a nice BBBJ. During the massage I kept my hands, but now I could roam, carress, kiss... She got turned on as well, dropped her panties and got on top of me, big "O" for both of us.
This session was better than exptected, the chemistry between us was really good. Though FS is not on her regular menue YMMV.
The 30 minutes are over much to quick. Maybe I am spoiled by the 2 hour services in chinese Saunas / MP. Still highly recommended.
Sandra is working mon, wed, fri.
All my sessions in the Schieferhof were BBBJ (& CIM when finished this way), FS always safe with condom.
Now I am not young anymore, neither too old, but 3 sessions on one day is a good limit for me and in general I am happy and satisfied with that.
I always like those reports of studs laying one lovely after another, managing 6, 8 or 10 sessions on one day. But I do not envy them. This sexual appetite takes its resources, time, personal power, money.
I could have called it a day. But I still had the urge to talk to some ladies, relax, drink (water and o-juice) and somehow found myself in a very nice conversation with Rita (Belorussia). This gorgeous lady is very intelligent and her body, hmm, slim, shaved, nice face, a solid 8/10 for me and the best looking girl in the Hof on that day.
How could I resist? She got me rock-hard on the sofa, more kisses and cuddling in the room and finish with BBBJ with CIM (her choice).
I was done, over my limit and really relaxed and happy. Now I needed some coffee before going home. I took a seat in the living room beside Monika (Hungary). After my second session I already had a very nice talk with her when I was waiting for my massage. Now we continued our conversation.
Somehow she had counted my sessions with the other girls and really wanted to land on me!
Monika is in the middle, agewise, of the Hof-girls. Neither in the twenties, nor in the forties. She has not the hard-body of Princess, but is still slim and well proportioned. Her bonus is the nice face doubled by the wonderful hair (reminded me of Sean Young in Blade Runner). But what made the kill for me is her sexy french accent when she speaks german. You can not resist her (soft) dirty talking with this accent. I could not believe it myself, but she got me rock-hard in no-time and what followed was another very good sessions in the room.
It could not get better after this one, and would not have been possible anyway. A little regret that I could not get to know Mara better, she is on my to-do list for next time. It was time to go. Monika farewelled me and I promissed to return.
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Spanish Main
04-24-07, 13:31
An excellent report by Tom Jeffereson. I am an FKK newbie and need reports like this to guide me in the right direction.
For a first experience, is BERNDS better than WORLD?
Hollandmale
04-25-07, 08:25
For a first experience, is BERNDS better than WORLD?.....no easy question.
Being a Bernds afficionado myself, I would suggest Bernds of course. However, if you're not comfortable with public sex, go elsewhere. And if you prefer a large selection of girls to choose from, go elsewhere also. But if excellent service is most important to you, than Bernds is the place to be. Chances to pick a substandard girl are almost zero in Bernds, but quite big in a larger club, certainly as a newbie.
An excellent report by Tom Jeffereson. I am an FKK newbie and need reports like this to guide me in the right direction.
For a first experience, is BERNDS better than WORLD?
.. for newbies to follow.
First do a Saunaclub where the women are dressed, then do a true FKK club where the women are nude, then do an FKK club where they have some public sex. Once you've gotten to level three, you are ready to do a PT where public sex is the norm.
Samya is at level 1. World is at level 2. Bernds is at level 3. PT Dorsten is at level 4.
.. for newbies to follow.
Samya is at level 1. World is at level 2. Bernds is at level 3. PT Dorsten is at level 4.
Goldentime, Cocoon are also number 2's.
Goldentime, Cocoon are also number 2's.
.. at GT though.
Flew in to Germany so needed the jetlag recovery day.
Dropped in to Bernd’s and decided to have the massage by Sandra to unwind the knots in my body. She does a top-less and G string massage for a very reasonable E25, and for 30 mins of pampering as well as some scrotum and cock touching, finishing off with a kiss on the end of your hard-on, I have to say it’s top value.
Rita was there and very busy as was Babsi, so went with my other favourite, Katja. Great Russian girl who absolutely loves sex. I wonder how many orgasms she has in a day, but my guess is a minimum of 6 every day. BBBJ, FS and CIM was just what the Dr ordered. This girl always delivers and has a tongue that must have been trained by the Russian Olympic gymnastics squad.
Decided to try Club M as well to see how things are progressing seeing as how it is trying to model itself on Bernds and Manuela, the joint owner, was previously behind the bar at Bernds. Finally found the place behind the Hotel Nord, and the facilities are good. Lala showed me round and chatted with me for quite a while. They have only been going for 4 weeks and things have some more bedding down to go, but it might well get there.
Had a session with Lala for 30 mins (E50), and she was very enthusiastic, with good BBBJ, DATY had her very wet and hot and nice FS session. I think the jetlag and the fact she is a bigger girl had me struggling for a finish, but a bit of hand and mouth work and I left happy.
I think I will give them a couple of months to bed things own and then call in again.
C1
Hello all,
Could you kindly provide details (location & Web site) for Club M that you refer to?
Thanks so much.
Coxswain
Hello all,
Could you kindly provide details (location & Web site) for Club M that you refer to?
Thanks so much.
CoxswainClub M. is in Rheinbach near Bonn, see this link:
http://www.club-manuela.de
What can I say that hasn't been said already. Oh my GOD comes to mind.
The level of service was amazing and while I felt a tad strange as an english speaking person in a german club I wasn't made to feel uncomfortable by the girls or other guests.
Negatives. Bernds is a SMALL club, that has almost nothing to do but talk to the girls, the guests, or sit in the Sauna. Found that after 4 hours I was bored and had to leave.
Was there when they opened at 1pm and was one of many in the queue to get in the door.
Key, Towel, and Escort to the lockers. Showered and wrapped in my towel I returned to get a tour by Celine. Tour was short and sweet. Left to my own devices after just a few minutes.
Grabbed a drink and sat on the couch upstairs. Denise started talking to me, and I was soon agreeing to go to a room. Nothing happened on the couch aside from a little under the towel tug and a few kisses. She seemed to want to go to a room before becoming more intimate. In the room she managed to show me the fun a toungue ring can bring to a BBBJ. A few minutes later I was on the edge and decided it would be best to slow down. I tried my best to bring her to that same edge, but she seemed not to want to go over and soon covered and asked me to take her missionary. She was a lot of fun but was soon asking me to take her doggie. We switched and as is usually the case a few minutes later I was finished. Cleaned up and was out of the room after 15-20 minutes. Felt rushed but might have just been a first pop situation.
Shower, sauna, drink, and food. Hour later I was feeling frisky and had been staring a Monika's ass as she walked around the upstairs. Smiled at her and she came over and showed me some of the infamous couch action. 5-10 minutes later with my dick still partially in her mouth she asked if I wanted a room. Well how could I say no. All rooms taken so she managed to get the room upstairs. vinyl bed was strange and kept sticking. She gave me more of a BBBJ than I could stand, but I held off and soon had her riding on top. She was really into grinding and I didn't mind taking my time. 10 minutes later we moved to doggie and I lasted a bit longer than before. Finished just about after 25min once we were in the room.
Another shower, Sauna, drinks, and food. I'd been catching a view of Sandy running around teasing the guys and eventually being taken up for long sessions. So when she stopped for a second I grabbed her and asked to "talk" she knew what I was wanting and soon had my towel open on the couch. Fantastic BBBJ. I asked her about a threesome and she agreed and soon had Denise involved. Off to that room upstairs again where both girls treated me very well. Denise seemed a bit out of the mood and was mostly providing an extra girl to play with sometimes sucking and riding, but Sandy did most of the work. After two earlier pops I was taking my time and towards the end we switched to Doggie and I was stroking hard into Sandy, she was moaning and Denise was rubbing her tits and my balls. I came a few minutes later and Sandy was looking mighty flushed. Not sure if she came or not but she took a few minutes before moving around.
I'd been at Bernds for 4 hours and was "bored" with eating, drinking, and sauna so decided to head south to oase. Paid my dues (270Euro total) and was soon on my way.
For those who cared, I saw a Bianca not sure if she's the girl others mentioned or not and if she was just there for the "party". And the girls ran the gambit from cute and limber, Sandy and Mara, to old and scary (never got their names they wouldn't talk in anything other than german). But in general I don't think I will visit any other smaller or bigger clubs if I can fit Bernd's into my schedule. Monday-Friday is a bit limiting. I had great service from the girls and felt this was a neighborhood bar kind of place. One big Family as Sandy put it.
Not sure how busy Bernd's usually is but there were always a couple of girls free, but maybe not the rooms. So not sure if the party affected things. Anyone else visit this day?
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[QUOTE=Jack195]Negatives. Bernds is a SMALL club, that has almost nothing to do but talk to the girls, the guests, or sit in the Sauna. Found that after 4 hours I was bored and had to leave.
I find that "boredom factor" can crop up even in the large clubs after too many hours, despite all the eye candy. I RTFF regularly, but I can't remember reading if you can leave and re-enter this club during the same day without paying an additional entrance fee. Anybody know? More to the point, I'd like to know if anyone has any experience with staying at the Hotel Reuter and visiting Bernds MORE than twice in a day. It would seem ideal to me to be able to show up at opening time, spend a couple of hours, then wander back to the Reuter to rest up in private and maybe read a little. Then hit it again from say 5 to 6 and again from 9 to close, taking breaks back in the Reuter.
[QUOTE=Jack195]Negatives. Bernds is a SMALL club, that has almost nothing to do but talk to the girls, the guests, or sit in the Sauna. Found that after 4 hours I was bored and had to leave.
I find that "boredom factor" can crop up even in the large clubs after too many hours, despite all the eye candy.
I don't doubt that there are folks who read this thread and say: "I've got to go visit this place" and then end up being disappointed with the facilities when they get there.
This is not a large club and facility-wise there are much better places. Folks go because its athmosphere is a very special one. The girls are very service-oriented but they are not beauty queens.
No other club comes close in loose uninhibitedness and pure raunchiness.
It is also more German and more Stammkunde-oriented (rather than tourist-oriented) than any other clubs. Wandering non-German speaking tourists are not its bread and butter.
If you are starting out your FKK career, looking for more to do between sessions or looking for more of an tourist environment, you might want to consider a different club to begin at.
[QUOTE=Jack195]Negatives. Bernds is a SMALL club, that has almost nothing to do but talk to the girls, the guests, or sit in the Sauna. Found that after 4 hours I was bored and had to leave.
I find that "boredom factor" can crop up even in the large clubs after too many hours, despite all the eye candy. I RTFF regularly, but I can't remember reading if you can leave and re-enter this club during the same day without paying an additional entrance fee. Anybody know? More to the point, I'd like to know if anyone has any experience with staying at the Hotel Reuter and visiting Bernds MORE than twice in a day. It would seem ideal to me to be able to show up at opening time, spend a couple of hours, then wander back to the Reuter to rest up in private and maybe read a little. Then hit it again from say 5 to 6 and again from 9 to close, taking breaks back in the Reuter.
I never get bored. Part of the experience is to connect with the other guys and the women. For locals it's a social experience, that they go to with some friends from work, the neighborhood pub, or a circle of mongering friends who get together just for that. To fully appreciate a place like Bernd's, connection is important. Even if your German is crap, and you were too shy to suck your mother's tit, you will only maximize your investment if you become part of the flow. At the larger clubs it's also important, but less so, because of the train station effect, with people constantly coming and going. Here, people come to sit, relax, talk, spend some hours cuddling and shmoosing with the ladies, let loose...
Yes, you can leave for a few hours and come back without paying the entrance fee again, but make sure that you tell the thekenfrau that this is your plan when you first get there and also when you leave for your break. You will have to pay the SP that you had been with before you leave.
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