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Marlow

09-08-11, 08:01

My first visit to Bernds was way back in the mid nineties. There was no World, Artemis etc at all. Oase existed but was slowly decaying with as I remember around five girls on show and never more then ten men at any one time. So Bernds was THE place to go. The clientele was on average mid thirties and the atmosphere electric. No foreigners. It was rare to meet someone who wasn't from the Cologne area. The internet at that time boasted only a very out of date website with some information on sex clubs in Germany. The girls were mostly mid twenties though some late thirties. Something of the old atmosphere still exists at Bernds, but frankly it is a notch or two below what it was ten years ago.

The reason is not so much the girls but the men.

To be honest it is now the haunt of the aged gent.

Yes, it always catered for the fat German businessman, but my last visit the wrinkly parade was noticable. I have nothing against old men in search of youth and beauty. Where else are they going to find it. But as the testosterone level decreases with age so does the ability to have riotous fun. Which is how Bernds used to be.

So I think this debate about the age of the girls. Bernds never went in for nubile girlies that much. Is misplaced. And it amuses me that a bunch of forty plus members of this board are worried about the age of girls who are on average twenty years younger than them!

Bernds suffers from a demographic change. Younger guys go to those clubs like World that have sprung up in the past decade.

Marlow

09-08-11, 08:07

My first visit to Bernds was way back in the mid nineties. There was no World, Artemis etc at all. Oase existed but was slowly decaying with as I remember around five girls on show and never more then ten men at any one time. So Bernds was THE place to go. The clientele was on average mid thirties and the atmosphere electric. No foreigners. It was rare to meet anyone who wasn't from the Cologne area. The internet at that time boasted only a very out of date website with some information on sex clubs in Germany. The girls were mostly mid twenties though some late thirties. Something of the old atmosphere still exists at Bernds, but frankly it is a notch or two below what it was ten years ago.

The reason is not so much the girls but the men.

To be honest it is now the haunt of the aged gent.

Yes, it always catered for the fat German businessman, but my last visit the wrinkly parade was noticable. I have nothing against old men in search of youth and beauty. Where else are they going to find it. But as the testosterone level decreases with age so does the ability to have riotous fun. Which is how Bernds used to be.

So I think this debate about the age of the girls. Bernds never went in for nubile girlies that much. Is misplaced. And it amuses me that a bunch of forty plus members of this board are worried about the age of girls who are on average twenty years younger than them!

Bernds suffers from a demographic change. Younger guys go to those clubs like World that have sprung up in the past decade.

Fats

09-08-11, 19:38

Mara (24 years and no Killer-boobs).
There are no hot 22 year old milfs at bernds unless mara had a kidMaybe the perception of age is part of the equation-Mara will turn 29 in February.

Excess

09-09-11, 10:50

Maybe the perception of age is part of the equation-Mara will turn 29 in February.Excellent observation, Fats, and very true. Perceptions and POV are often very much a conditioner and will remain so.

Myself for instance, while growing old disgracefully I often find myself thinking that I am a 21 year old, particularly in a Club or FKK environment, trying to escape from a much more shop worn body. Mark me down as happy with it, too.

E.

Ortos

09-09-11, 20:01

Myself for instance, while growing old disgracefully I often find myself thinking that I am a 21 year old, particularly in a Club or FKK environment, trying to escape from a much more shop worn body. Mark me down as happy with it, too.

E.It's an Out-of-Body-Experience, right? Always knew an OBE differed from a GFE...:)

O

O.B.E.: Order of the British Empire

Kiwi 69

09-11-11, 15:55

Okay.

I am.

I have been to the room with Babsi, Sandra and with Katja and yes they are over 40 but their figures are definately NOT overweight and all of them are masters of illusion.

I will gladly trade a one hour session with a random 19 year-old in any club for half an hour with one of these women! .

Either you love it or you hate it! (like any other Club) Seconded! Sandra. She has a body any 19 year old would be proud of!

Gfe Finder

09-11-11, 20:26

I have been to the room with Babsi, Sandra and with Katja and yes they are over 40 but their figures are definately NOT overweight and all of them are masters of illusion.Thirded. All the women Rob mentioned above-- who I've been with as well-- look at least 5-10 (if not more) years younger than they actually are.

Rob Raunch

09-11-11, 23:31

Maybe the perception of age is part of the equation-Mara will turn 29 in February.I will bett you a program for every year she is over 27. (I am staying on the safe side and STILL winn a program or two!)

Mara is definitely not 28 (your perception of age is allready. Ageing her. Hahaha. Like saying: "she will turn 30 in feb. '13")

I am seeing her next Thursday (she's going on holiday sept. 19th) and I will ask her for her drivers-license (no cheating!).

I have been with girls aged 18, don't want that anymore (and not because I am 40-isch).

They have not got the skills, the finesse, the techniques, a woman needs to satisfy ALL my needs.

Bernds is quite a unique place as the women "show"/"give" more of themselfs.

I have found that also with some other women in other clubs tooo, but it was more accidentally (one here and one there) , at Bernds the women a special "breed" (I don't have a better word for it)

Sure, there are allways better places. Everyone of us has their favorit place!

If they change the "working-ethics" of all the girls in (for instance) Golden Time and the Girls would do their Work like the women at Bernds? I will be there! (and so will be 600 other men!)

GRTZ

Boomer10

09-13-11, 11:44

Why shouldn't I post my view compared to someone who had an enjoyable time? I'd like to think that by reporting both the positive and the negatives of a club, then the hobbiests who've never been to Bernds can make an informed decision on whether or not to visit the club. Yin and Yang. Guys don't want to visit World because of the bikers who own it, should they not be allowed to report their decision to boycott the club?I didn't suggest you stop, just don't see the need for it. Your opinion is well known and the short comings of Bernds are well documented. I guess I'll never understand why you go to some place you dislike so much. C'est la vie.

Kiwi 69

09-18-11, 20:53

Maybe the perception of age is part of the equation-Mara will turn 29 in February.My only complaint about Mara. I can never seem to book her! (weeps)

I still remember my first time.

Gggfan

09-23-11, 04:35

I went for the first time to this holy temple in July around the 20th (the day after the threesome party).

I had a four hour drive to get there. When I passed Frankfurt, I thought about stopping there to go to one of the big club there and avoid the long drive. But I was looking for some public action and CIMs, so I drove another hour and a half to get there.

I found the club easily (thanks to the description and Garmin). I rang the bell and have been greeted by a nice naked lady : of course I parked the car on the wrong place, so I had to move it (gave me time to recover from that first look inside the club).

Paid the price, went to the locker, took a shower and then the first lady showed me around: club has been well documented here before, so I felt like I already knew the club.

I went to the bar and had a beer to relax a bit and have a look : I was downstairs and the sight of the naked girls, legs wide apart, touching themselves was great. Then I spent like an hour sometimes upstairs sometimes downstairs trying to identify the ladies. Unfortunately the club wasn't really busy that day : few girls present and few customers. I saw two beautiful young girls but they were busy all afternoon just going out of the room to grab a drink or to take a shower.

As I was sitting in the sofa of the upper bar area and watching the porn on the TV (unfortunately very few public action while I was there) , started to speak to one of the lady (don't remember the name, but I remember her body. The one on the right : http://www.bernds-saunaclub.de/himages/sekrtag/sek2.jpg ). My german is not so good but she spoke good english. Started kissing and touching our bodies. The porn scene on TV ended with CIM and she asked me if I liked that with a dirty look, then started a BBBJ. I grabbed her ass and started licking her ass and pussy. After a few minutes I suggested going to a room. We went to one of the room on the same floor. She went on the mattress, put her legs wide apart so I dived for some pussy licking, then 69. Finished in CIM with me standing while she kneeled in front of me mouth wide open : she continued sucking a good minute after I cumed in her mouth before spitting in a tissue. Good session.

After a good shower, I wanted one more session before having to leave. I was thinking about a threesome. Unfortunately, none of the ladies suited me and the club was a bit empty. So I left after an hour.

I'm disappointed by the 3 hours and half I spent there : disappointed by the lack of public action and by the small selection of ladies. But I will return : I have just been unlucky. I am sure the next time will be better because I liked the atmosphere, the ladies, the service.

Originally I had planned to go Spermagames the day before and to Mettman after Bernds but I had unplanned meetings : a trip that should have been an orgy of sex went down to just Bernds and one session.

Hopefully I will have more business trips to Germany in the near future so that I will be able to return to Bernds (not during summer) and maybe to sample Mettman and Spermagames.

Gooroox

09-23-11, 09:38

As I was sitting in the sofa of the upper bar area and watching the porn on the TV (unfortunately very few public action while I was there) , started to speak to one of the lady (don't remember the name, but I remember her body. The one on the right :

http://www.bernds-saunaclub.de/himages/sekrtag/sek2.jpg

). My german is not so good but she spoke good english. Started kissing and touching our bodies. The porn scene on TV ended with CIM and she asked me if I liked that with a dirty look, then started a BBBJ. I grabbed her ass and started licking her ass and pussy. After a few minutes I suggested going to a room. We went to one of the room on the same floor. She went on the mattress, put her legs wide apart so I dived for some pussy licking, then 69. Finished in CIM with me standing while she kneeled in front of me mouth wide open : she continued sucking a good minute after I cumed in her mouth before spitting in a tissue. Good session.The girl on the right is Erika from Romania, she does give a good service indeed. The tall black girl on the left is Leonie from Brazil (who I've never sessioned with although her pierced pussy turns me on)

Euro100

09-23-11, 23:47

I think that there is nothing wrong with admitting that Bernds has a lack of stunners. Most of the girls there are fairly average looking, and some of them I just could not have sex with even for free. But for me it only takes two or three doable girls to make me happy. And when these girls give good service, then it is worth visiting a club.

It is also true that the club is kind of run down as far a the interior decoration goes, that there are no exterior facilities to speak of, no jacuzzi, and so on. Also, the food is pretty basic. Yes, the 70 entrance include all alcohol, but if you have to drive a car, then this is not worth much. The club is also small, and there is really no place to take a nap. It is also easy to feel left out, in particular if you do not speak German.

Despite of all of this, as you will know if you have been reading this forum for a few years, I have had some outstanding days at Bernds. I just get the feeling that I am not jut being processed. Nobody seems to watch clock; the girls seem to really be into sex and seem to have fun. They smile at you after the deed, and do not just move on to the next customer. All of this is important to me; that's why I keep coming back. (Even though most of my favorites have left.)

Gggfan

09-24-11, 02:01

It is also true that the club is kind of run down as far a the interior decoration goes, that there are no exterior facilities to speak of, no jacuzzi, and so on. Also, the food is pretty basic. Yes, the 70 entrance include all alcohol, but if you have to drive a car, then this is not worth much. The club is also small, and there is really no place to take a nap. It is also easy to feel left out, in particular if you do not speak German.

Despite of all of this, as you will know if you have been reading this forum for a few years, I have had some outstanding days at Bernds. I just get the feeling that I am not jut being processed. Nobody seems to watch clock; the girls seem to really be into sex and seem to have fun. They smile at you after the deed, and do not just move on to the next customer. All of this is important to me; that's why I keep coming back. (Even though most of my favorites have left.) You have much more experience than me regarding Bernds but I couldn't agree more!

During my visit I realized that all the positive things said about this club were true even though I was unlucky that day regarding attendance (number of guests).

Thank you for summarizing as well my thoughts!

Mhansen1

09-24-11, 15:36

Got a return flight to Cologne for 70 EUR on Germanwings, and stayed 2 nights at the Station hostel Cologne for 17 EUR / night in a dorm (remember earplugs, as some people can be very noisy during the night). Took the S12 from Cologne central station at 11. 51 to Hennef for 6, 8 EUR one-way, which also includes the bus number 522 to Lichtenberg. Got off in Hennef, and took the 12:28 bus to Lichtenberg, and got off the 2nd stop after the bus leaves the big road into Lichtenberg (bus ride appr. 10 min). Then it is a 10 mins walk to Bernds, so I arrived 10 min before 13, and had to go for a small walk before going to Bernds.

Here is the good news. They changed 522 bus schedule after my latest visit, so the last bus back to Hennef is now 23:57, and you can get a train to Cologne at 00:23, arriving in Cologne 00:56. There is also a bus at 22:57 and 21:57 and of course earlier, with more departures per hour.

Unfortunately I was the only passenger in that bus, so I hope more visitors to Bernds will use the public transportation, to make sure that there is still a budget option for going to Bernds, as I guess most guys will rather spend their money on the girls, rather than transportation, like overpriced taxis.

Total cost excl. The fun: 70+ (2*17) + (2*6, 8) +70 (entrance) = 187, 6 EUR.

Inside Bernds it was the normal line up minus Mara, who was on holiday. Unfortunately I am not good with names, but Leonie, Magda, Susan, Celine (new) , Laila (new) , Katya, Anna, Aline (bar girl) and the woman always sitting upstairs in the couch below the TV screen plus 4 or 5 more girls.

Had my first session with Leonie, and it was excellent as always.

Had my second session with Celine, a beautiful German girl with small breasts, but very nice, had some good DFK, BBBJ. 69 before fucking. Unfortunately she does not sit on top of you, otherwise a passionate girl.

Wanted to have a session with Anna, but she always stops at 23, then I asked Laila, a new girl with the biggest tits I have seen so far at Bernds. They are not 100 % natural, but very impressive.

Unfortunately she needed a break, as she had been very busy all day, and I had to catch my bus, so only 2 sessions, but both very good.

But altogether it was another good day at Bernds. I like to sit and chat with the girls between sessions and go for some food, even though food is found better in other clubs. I like the relaxed atmosphere in this club, and it is still my favorite club, due to their performace during sessions and chatting between sessions.

Boomer10

09-29-11, 02:59

Just saw this page on the Bernds web site:

http://www.bernds-saunaclub.de/schieferhofcouchaktion.htm

My try at a translation:

Theme Day 07/10/2011.

+ + + 30 years Schieferhof! + + + 2011 our anniversary year, we let it rip! + + +

"Back to our Roots" Couch Action Day!

If you are not shy and would like action with one or even two women and would like try out the "possibilities" our couch.

Or if you are "Visually oriented" and would like to be inspired by the actions on our couch?

Or if you want something different than Sex on a bed in a room?

Our girls are looking for YOU! .

During the day our girls will distribute some couch spoiling programs and surprise YOU or a fellow comrade-in-arms with a gift which you will not so quickly forget, at our expense!

7. October 2011. Are you it?

Be ready for public action and in an orgy mood, if a lady selects you and you are a willing participant, the program is ON US!

Keep an eye on our News link or follow us on.

www.twitter.com/schieferhof

A kiss from your Hof team, hopefully until then.

WISH I COULD BE THERE!

Boomer

Gooroox

09-29-11, 20:29

I hadn't visited Schieferhof for months when I was there earlier this week and that day will stay forever in my memories of a punter lost in the wonderful NRW countryside. That day will stay forever in my mind since it's one of the momets that are really worth living for.

I had four extraordinary sessions with masseuse Sandra (who did not only commit herself to a massage and that was great!) , Babsie, Erika And newcomer Laila (German from Hamburg. 25-30 why. O, very beautiful enhanced E-cups. 1m70, brown hair and hair eyes). No further details needed, I guess, as these four women make for an absolute recommendation. I can't wait to return to Lichtenberg.

PS: The club will be closed next Monday (October 3rd is Germany's National Day)

Hedonian

09-29-11, 22:43

I had four extraordinary sessions with masseuse Sandra (who did not only commit herself to a massage and that was great!)Is masseuse Sandra skinny woman that is typically in white tight dress? I think she has some sort of ash blond hair if I remember. I find that woman in tight dress rather slutty and sexy.

I saw her couple times in Hof running around and I thought she is masseuse. When I booked massage then they redirected me to an overweight older lady.

I always wanted to have good professional massage with happy end in Hof but never happened.

Gfe Finder

09-30-11, 00:49

Is masseuse Sandra skinny woman that is typically in white tight dress? I think she has some sort of ash blond hair if I remember.Yep, that's her. :)

I saw her couple times in Hof running around and I thought she is masseuse. When I booked massage then they redirected me to an overweight older lady.

I always wanted to have good professional massage with happy end in Hof but never happened.Sandra typically works during the day (until 6PM) MWF. At other times, Gabi (the older lady you mentioned) will be working. FYI, Gabi is a professionally trained & licensed masseuse but she doesn't offer "happy endings" as Sandra does.

Gergiev

09-30-11, 02:01

Question for all Hofmeisters.

Who is the cutie in the mask on the right of this picture?

http://twitpic.com/6pc09s

VG

Boomer10

09-30-11, 02:34

Question for all Hofmeisters.

Who is the cutie in the mask on the right of this picture?

http://twitpic.com/6pc09s

VGThat is Magda.

Gergiev

10-02-11, 00:54

That is Magda.Thanks Boomer.

Rob Raunch

11-23-11, 13:33

Forcharles

11-27-11, 05:49

Anyone going to Bernds Threesome-day?

I wanted to go this week anyway and it seems like a bargain to me

(normal entrance and one girl = 70+50=120 but on this day it is only 10€ more for a good threesome 50+40+40=130)

This is picture is what I got from their newsletter.

GRTZ RobRob Raunch: From reading Bernd's newsletter, you seem to have understood the price correctly.

Even on normal days the regular price for the entrance of 70Eu at Bernds is also a bargain in my opinion. I get much better service at Bernds than at other Clubs. Also extras (such as CIM) are included in the 50Eu 30 minute sessions at Bernds. Girls in other clubs charge extra (50Eu) for that. While Bernds does not have the facilities of other clubs, my major enjoyment is with the passionate kisses, the personal attention on the couches, the no clock-watching and extras available, like CIM, with no extra charge. That's just my personal preference.

Gfe Finder

11-28-11, 01:48

Present

1. Alina
2. Angie
3. Anna
4. Babsi
5. Celine
6. Erika
7. Gabi the masseuse
8. Jacqueline
9. Katja
10. Laila
11. Leonie
12. Magda
13. Mascha
14. Nathali
15. Sandra
16. Susan
17. Tina

When I arrived at 1, I did so with the knowledge that Anna mentioned yesterday that she might be late. Guess who greeted me at 1? :) Even more good news: that was a party day with an entry of only 50 €. It was Oktoberfest—weisswurst with mustard, good beer, tasty pretzels, and hot women were all on the menu. I must give props to all the girls for their costumes especially two: Anna of course (who went naked) and Susan (think of the St. Pauli Girl with a bare midriff and a miniskirt.)

After checking in, putting my stuff in my locker, and showering, I met Anna downstairs. She picked a basement room that wound up being a little hot, so hot that I was having trouble coming. It bothered me, but as a tribute to how wonderful she is, it never bothered Anna. In fact, we tried sex 3 times over the course of the hour (taking a break to talk, kiss, snuggle, for a blow job, etc.) before I finally came.

After showering, I headed for the garden out of habit. That day was much colder and thus my respite there was much shorter.

While having a drink at the table downstairs, Susan came up to me and asked if it was OK to hang out with me for a while. As we talked, we embraced each other, became closer and closer, and lost in the moment felt ourselves become hornier and hornier. She asked me whether I wanted to go to a room. I had to think about it only briefly before telling her yes.

We went to the new green room upstairs. She kissed me, and we had sex both from the missionary position and while lying on our sides and I came inside her. As we talked afterwards, and she mentioned how much she enjoyed being with me, I began to think how many other SPs outside of Bernds have taken this small but important step of verbally expressing their appreciation. Not just for the sex, not just generic compliments, but genuine appreciation for what you do for her and with her. The answer: not many. Yet another in a long list of reasons why Bernds is so special and unique.

The Price of Stupidity

Earlier upon check-in I waved hello to Sandra. I told her on Wednesday that I wanted a program on Friday and assumed that was that. After a fun session with Susan, I asked Conny whether I was on Sandra’s list. She said no and put me on. At least I’d get time with Sandra, but since she had to leave at 6 and I was her last at 5:30, we faced a dilemma: massage or program (both was not an option.) At that point, neither of us knew the answer nor suggested one. Instead, Sandra embraced me and we gently, slowly, rhythmically, hypnotically swayed in each other’s arms. We held each other close enough to feel our pulses & breathing come in to sync and then start racing faster and faster. The answer became obvious and was something we could both sense as a very warm and tender feeling grew inside of us and wrapped itself around us: program.

She knelt down to blow me, bent over onto the table to let me in doggy style while I massaged her buttocks. She later hopped up and sat on the table and I pounded her standing up. As this room was a little too cramped for sex, we moved to the room next door. There, Sandra lay back so that we could do missionary. She wanted to try cowgirl, so we did that for a while as well. Sandra was generous with her time, but still under a deadline, so we said goodnight and goodbye to each other until next time.

But I don’t miss out

Later, I got a promised massage from Susan in return for my massage on Wednesday. She continued for a few minutes, all the while deprecating her abilities as a masseuse. (Why? From my end her touch was gentle, caring, and healing.) While we were in the open room downstairs, Magda came in and continued some work herself. Both were excellent but suggested another (professionally trained) masseuse to finish the job: Gabi.

So I signed up for a massage with her. She asked about and addressed the problem areas that I had in my legs and feet.

Afterwards, Erika wanted to dance with me. She put on a couple of songs, taught me some moves, and we had some fun before she went upstairs with a client.

One Last Act of Kindness

More time flew and soon came my second date with Anna. My last one this trip. As I gave her a massage, she moaned softly, gently, and contentedly. Her moans must be the music that the angels make in Heaven. Magda came in to ask a question but she could not rouse or even get an answer out of Anna. After we had sex, Anna kindly wrapped us in a blanket to keep us warm. I suspect we would have stayed in there all night but Gertie mentioned Anna’s taxi was here so we had to end the session.

While still enduring a comedown from this high, I showered, got dressed, and spoke with a guest. We checked out then I began the lonely walk back to Reuter. Oh, it’s only 400 meters but on that particularly bitterly cold night it felt excruciatingly long. I guess that guest sensed that something was amiss. He offered me a ride back to Reuter.

Gfe Finder

11-28-11, 01:53

present

1. alina
2. angie
3. anna
4. babsi
5. erika
6. gabi the masseuse
7. jacqueline
8. katja
9. laila
10. leonie
11. magda
12. mascha
13. nathali
14. tina

another free entry

i arrived at 1 and jacqueline greeted me. i cashed in my free entry (thank you, ijsberenforum!), changed, showered, and met anna downstairs at her usual spot.

we relaxed before heading into the room. anna got me a drink; we talked for some time and then headed into a room downstairs. she closed the door, invited me on the bed, and we began kissing. when i became sufficiently erect, she put on a condom and i guided my hard cock inside her. we had some terrific sex but because the room was so hot, i was unable to come. she showed more of her patience, tolerance, and understanding by letting me know that this was not a big deal. by the time we’re finished and kissing each other goodbye outside the room, magda and nathali were both downstairs and greeted us.

i then went upstairs to clean up, get some lunch, grab a drink, and talk with conny.

i planned to have my next session with babsi, but somehow other guys kept snapping her up before i could get to her. so, i waited on the couch, growing ever more anxious when suddenly i spotted babsi at the bar. i waved hello to her. she saw me, waved back, and to my surprise came right over.

we wandered into the open room downstairs to relax. she draped herself over me, leaned in to kiss me, reached behind to see if gfe jr. was ready for her (he was, and had been at full attention for some time), and blew me. we found a room downstairs and she continued her blow job sitting on the bed while i stood. i must commend her on one particular aspect this time: good eye contact. she made a point to look up at me, and do a few porno visuals—take my dick in her hand, move it slowly around the edges and inside of her mouth, etc.

after a very pleasurable while, she invited me inside of her. i lay on top and within a few minutes of thrusting, exploded inside her. we were both exhausted and hot for we picked a room in the basement. after cleaning up, we cuddled together and had what was for me a very enlightening conversation. i was happy that babsi was able to put both my mind and my body at ease.

i ventured outside in the garden to rest and escape the smoke. since the weather was unusually warm and mild that day i was able to stay outside for a while.

oktoberfest preview

it was actually my own stomach growling that brought me back inside. it was time for dinner which was a preview of tomorrow: weisswurst, sweet mustard, sauerkraut, and pretzels. i met a few bernds regulars in the dining room for whose help i am grateful. i never would have realized that there is a science to eating weisswurst (cut the sausage lengthwise to make removing the skin easiest, e.g.) then cut it into bite-sized pieces, dip it in the mustard and dig in! and, thanks to staying in nearby reuter and only needing to walk home i was free to indulge in some beer to wash it all down!

cut to a few hours later, after dinner. anna just finished up in the room with another regular and invited me over to her spot downstairs. we snuggled and she suggested moving over to the bar. i was a bit confused-- content with where we were, with my arm around her, her resting her head on the nook in my shoulder, my hand gently and smoothly tracing a path through her soft, silky hair, why did we need to move? nonetheless, i realized that she knows best. i saw why when i got there—she draped her legs over my lap and asked for a massage while she took a smoke break. i was, of course, happy to oblige.

after a few minutes, we found a room. she again invited me to join her on the bed and we kissed. she blew me, put on a condom, and then invited me inside her. now, i’ve been with her somewhere around 50 times (my estimate) and part of the reason for that is how continually clever, inventive, and in tune with me she is. this time, not only did she give me a massage afterward, she instinctively narrowed in on the parts of my legs & feet that were giving me trouble and melted the pain away with her magic touch. by the way, all of this was without my having to indicate in any way where the trouble was. sandra may have some serious competition if anna keeps going like this!

since anna had to leave at 11, i went upstairs to pay her. when i came back down after she left, nathali wanted to cuddle with me. she scratched my back (literally and figuratively) so i scratched hers. we danced for a little while, and then went upstairs to cuddle some more. but, she too had to leave early. guess who just rose near the top of my list for a repeat (after anna, of course!)

once nathali left, the only ones around were gertie, mascha and her client, angie (who seemed very tired) and alina. so, even though it was 11:30, there wasn’t much reason for me to stick around.

Gfe Finder

11-28-11, 01:56

Present

1. Alina
2. Angie (whose hair was now dyed reddish-brown )
3. Anna
4. Babsi
5. Celine (new, dyed blonde hair , green eyes, also works at PSR on alternating weekends)
6. Erika
7. Ina
8. Jacqueline
9. Laila (new, black hair, enhanced DD cups, also works at PSR on weekends)
10. Leonie
11. Magda
12. Nathali
13. Sandra
14. Susan
15. Tina

Russian Buffet

I made it to the Hof around 1:20, was buzzed in, cashed in the last of my Fünferkarte, walked to my locker by Angie, and then I showered and changed. A Youppinate friend of mine was in the room with Anna so I had some down time to kill.

That Wednesday was a Russian buffet in the Hof, including pancakes with smoked salmon, Russian eggs with mushroom / onion, beetroot soup, ground beef, and Russian plucked pie. (Assuming I am translating everything correctly, of course!) Having not had Russian food in recent memory I gave it a try and it was pretty good! I was particularly a fan of the beet root soup.

It was unusually quiet that afternoon, and only later would I find out why: a tour group of 10 or so guys came through in the early part of that afternoon. They had been quick and efficient in picking girls so the vast majority of the guests and girls were in the rooms, not out in the bars, sauna, or garden. They had to be quick as they had other clubs to visit later in the day. I had to wonder, then as now, how much couch action, conversation time, and other specialties of the Hof they missed out on.

Remodeling, Renovation, and New Facilities

While I was waiting for Anna, I also had time to survey some changes and remodeling that the Hof had done. There were new couches downstairs—gray ones to replace the red couches. The new couches also have more generous cushioning, enough that I could lean my head back to rest without smacking it into the wall. Also, as I would find out later the room in the hallway upstairs has some new walls with a green striped pattern.

While having a drink at the downstairs bar, Susan saw me, kissed me hello, and we scheduled a date later in the day. Anna then came downstairs and joined us briefly in conversation. Susan excused herself, Anna and I caught up, and then we moved to her usual spot nearby on the couch. Since we’re both so hot for each other, the conversation didn’t last much longer but the kissing and the blow job did, and then we went to the room.

Our wonderful tradition continued and it’s an hour of fantastic sex for us! I popped while in the missionary position and we spent the remainder of the hour with our lips locked in ecstasy. At the end, I mentioned that I had a gift for her later. She smiled, her face shined, and her eyes sparkled with delight and anticipation.

I took a break outside in the garden and noticed despite it being late September that I wasn’t the only one out there. The afternoon breezes made it a little too cold to stay so I wandered back inside and continued conversation with my Youppinate friend.

After some dinner, Susan and I met for our date. I started by massaging her in the open room downstairs as she had hurt herself earlier that week. We headed upstairs to the new green room in the hallway. We kissed, lying side by side and then she worked her tongue into my mouth. I sucked on it, and slipped her my own tongue. She asked what position would be easiest for me (on top) and then moved below me to let me inside her. I thrusted and popped within just a few minutes and she kindly overlooked this peccadillo as we chatted the rest of the time.

Will She or Won’t She

Earlier that day, I signed up for a massage with Sandra. It was now around 8PM and we finally had time for each other. We went upstairs and she got naked. She kissed me at various points (and times!) throughout. As I was turned upwards we kissed and sucked on each other’s lips for an enticing while. Then she leaned towards me, licked her lips, paused to build anticipation, and whispered in my ear “I’ve done all my programs for today.” Rats! From the way she lingered in hugging me at the end I suspect she regretted that she couldn’t do one more program that day, too.

After showering and going downstairs for a drink, I spotted a very lucky man at that moment on one of the couches downstairs. Anna was kissing him and Magda was blowing him. Or maybe Anna was blowing him and Magda was kissing him. Or maybe they were alternating with each other. :confused:

Eventually, it came time for my final session with Anna before her departure at 11. I finally revealed to her the gift I alluded to earlier in the day: I brought my own massage oil this time! She was truly delighted and thanked me with many kisses. We then had sex, and I gave her a massage afterwards. Around 11, Magda knocked on the door to announce that Anna’s taxi had arrived and our time was up. The smile disappeared from her face, replaced with a look of disappointment which indicated that she was as crestfallen as I. I showered, paid for my sessions, and kissed her goodbye.

And then it’s 11 PM. My Youppinate friend had already left and just I, Leonie, Angie, Alina, Laila, and a couple others remained. The girls and staff started cleaning up. It’s obvious then that there’s not much need for me to hang around so I grabbed a drink for the road and got dressed. Leonie kissed me goodbye in the locker room, I paid for my session with Susan, and finally kissed Angie goodnight as I left.

Tobyg

12-20-11, 09:33

OK so who can identify all the girls in the Christmas photos.

http://fkk-schieferhof.de/hofgalerie.html

I think they are.

1: group.

2: group.

3: Angie.

4: Suzan and Magda.

5: Leonie.

6: Leonie.

7: Suzan.

8: Suzan.

9: Jacky.

10: Jacky.

11: Tina.

12: Tina.

13: Magda.

14: Magda.

Any disgreements?

Tobin

12-27-11, 12:55

Is it true, as a girl who worked here said to me, that in this club it's often possible to have sex traffic without condom?

Hannibal Barca

12-27-11, 18:44

Is it true, as a girl who worked here said to me, that in this club it's often possible to have sex traffic without condom?T,

A girl has told you presumably first hand then you ask here for confirmation?

Go to Bernds and find out what a lot here know and why Bernds is so beloved.

Tobin

12-27-11, 23:53

T,

A girl has told you presumably first hand then you ask here for confirmation?

Go to Bernds and find out what a lot here know and why Bernds is so beloved.The girl is no more working there, she changed club. For this reason I asked that here. And all girls do sex without condome if the man asks for it, or only few of them?

Hessen Bub

12-28-11, 09:07

BareBack "happens" at every club. At Schieferhof it was very common, not every girl does it, some of them who do charge extra. CIM is not an extra at Hof and included in the 50€ standard price.

HB

Bukudala

12-31-11, 20:31

Happy New Year's everyone!

On my way back from the Far East on the 5th Jan, I have a 16 hour layover, literally, . In Frankfurt, and I've decided to make the trek to the Hof. I haven't been there since '09 so this should be fun. I seem to recall some hotels in Hennef-Sieg, but can't remember any names. There's one immediately by the train station that looked quite pleasant though obviously more "dear" that Herr Reuter's place.

Got to love Herr Reuter's, but In the morning I'll need a quick getaway to the airport or risk unemployment upon returning to my beloved US so I need a straight shot to Frankfurt Flughaven.

Any recommendations?

Interesting comments regarding AO@Bernd's. I was told by a long time, and very well known provider that the "seasoned ladies (the one's who have been there awhile)," do offer it for typically 50eur more per session. And yes, at the risk of being stoned to death on this board, I did partake of the forbidden fruit with this provider. How naughty.

Dangerous, but incredibly naughty. Some people find Russian roulette fun.

Everyone have a great 2012!

Gfe Finder

01-01-12, 01:27

Happy New Year's everyone!

On my way back from the Far East on the 5th Jan, I have a 16 hour layover, literally, . In Frankfurt, and I've decided to make the trek to the Hof. I haven't been there since '09 so this should be fun. I seem to recall some hotels in Hennef-Sieg, but can't remember any names. There's one immediately by the train station that looked quite pleasant though obviously more "dear" that Herr Reuter's place.

Got to love Herr Reuter's, but In the morning I'll need a quick getaway to the airport or risk unemployment upon returning to my beloved US so I need a straight shot to Frankfurt Flughaven.

Any recommendations?

Interesting comments regarding AO at Bernd's. I was told by a long time, and very well known provider that the "seasoned ladies (the one's who have been there awhile)," do offer it for typically 50eur more per session. And yes, at the risk of being stoned to death on this board, I did partake of the forbidden fruit with this provider. How naughty.

Dangerous, but incredibly naughty. Some people find Russian roulette fun.

Everyone have a great 2012!There is an ICE (only 40 minutes long) that will take you directly from Frankfurt Airport to Siegburg / Bonn station. It's a great option; I've done it once but that was long ago. From there, you can take a cab (expensive ~20 Euros or more IIRC) or a local train to Hennef and a then a cab to Bernds. And of course, the return trip also has an ICE from Sieburg / Bonn to FRA.

Have fun and report back. I wish you and the readers a great 2012 as well!

Hedonian

01-01-12, 01:39

There is an ICE (only 40 minutes long) that will take you directly from Frankfurt Airport to Siegburg / Bonn station. It's a great option; I've done it once but that was long ago. From there, you can take a cab (expensive ~20 Euros or more IIRC) or a local train to Hennef and a then a cab to Bernds. And of course, the return trip also has an ICE from Sieburg / Bonn to FRA.Isn't it easier and all together cheaper to rent a car at the airport? I rented cars several times in Germany and I find fees reasonable. I think when I compared ICE tickets, cabs etc I find it cheaper and more flexible.

No matter how you get to Bernds it is worthwhile.

Gfe Finder

01-01-12, 02:51

On another subject, the Hof's Twitter feed announced the return of Sandy (good news for her many fans!) and a new girl Rosa, whose description seems to fit a girl who worked there in October 2010 before moving on to Residenz.

Gfe Finder

01-01-12, 16:36

Isn't it easier and all together cheaper to rent a car at the airport? I rented cars several times in Germany and I find fees reasonable. I think when I compared ICE tickets, cabs etc I find it cheaper and more flexible.

No matter how you get to Bernds it is worthwhile.

Easier? Maybe, maybe not. More flexible? Certainly. Even in a best case scenario, the car is still slightly more.

The OP didn't mention his exact schedule, just a 16-hour window. The saver fare tickets run ~50 Euros according to DB Bahn's website, a cab to & back runs ~40 Euros, so ~90 Euros total by train & cab. A rental car may run you a little less (I found one for ~70 Euros on Sixt's website) but it's a basic manual transmission which not everyone can drive. Plus, you'll need to pay for gas which is ~25-30 Euros and that's ~95-100 Euros in total.

Nonetheless, no matter how you get there a trip to Bernds is worthwhile. :) I've got one planned myself! :D

Jymondor

01-01-12, 18:33

Easier? Maybe, maybe not. More flexible? Certainly. Even in a best case scenario, the car is still slightly more.

The OP didn't mention his exact schedule, just a 16-hour window. The saver fare tickets run 50 Euros according to DB Bahn's website, a cab to & back runs 40 Euros, so 90 Euros total by train & cab. A rental car may Run you a little less (I found one for 70 Euros on Sixt's website) but it's a basic manual transmission which not everyone can drive. Plus, you'll need to pay for gas which is 25-30 Euros and that's 95-100 Euros in total.

Nonetheless, no matter how you get there a trip to Bernds is worthwhile. I've got one planned myself! .And don't forget about winter tires between Nov and Mar. Usually it is 13-20E per day. Most of providers made them as a mandatory charge even ambient temperature is not under 7 C, as stated in German regulation. When you book a car this charge is not included in your estimation. But non pleasant surprise waits for you at the order desk.

But anyway I prefer renting a car even realizing that this is more expensive option. Car gives more freedom that is important to me.

Bukudala

01-01-12, 22:47

FYI,

I arrive at 6:40 pm (and should be among the first 8 off the plane) ; bought are / t tickets, adv purchase, on DB@71 eur net for a departure at 7:24pm ICE, arriving at Hennef-Seigburg around 8:25ish pm. Unless my flight's delayed (I'm flying from Seoul) , I think that's ample time. I have no checked luggage. Booked a room at the Hotel Herting for 62eur net including bfst, which is right across the street from the train station in Seigburg, and should be at the Hof around 9!

Should give me three or so hours of playtime. Would rather have at least half a day, but this will have to do. Otherwise the alternative would be OASE, Palace, or Mainhattan, and in the midst of all the traveling, I'd rather not have to worry about swimming in shark infested waters.

Thanks for everyone's input and I'll post my post game report shortly. Oh, does anyone know this week's lineup? Looking forward to enjoying Sandy, Magda, both first time, and Anna and Babsi. Yes, I'm into blondes.

Breadman

01-01-12, 23:30

Iseeu

01-02-12, 18:44

FYI,

I arrive at 6:40 pm (and should be among the first 8 off the plane) ; bought are / t tickets, adv purchase, on DB@71 Eur net for a departure at 7:24pm ICE, arriving at Hennef-Seigburg around 8:25ish pm. Unless my flight's delayed (I'm flying from Seoul) , I think that's ample time. I have no checked luggage. Booked a room at the Hotel Herting for 62eur net including bfst, which is right across the street from the train station in Seigburg, and should be at the Hof around 9!

Should give me three or so hours of playtime. Would rather have at least half a day, but this will have to do. Otherwise the alternative would be OASE, Palace, or Mainhattan, and in the midst of all the traveling, I'd rather not have to worry about swimming in shark infested waters.

Thanks for everyone's input and I'll post my post game report shortly. Oh, does anyone know this week's lineup? Looking forward to enjoying Sandy, Magda, both first time, and Anna and Babsi. Yes, I'm into blondes.Not that I would ever suggest to someone who is yearning to visit Bernd's, that he shouldn't, but this plan of yours, isn't such a great idea.

From a logistics point of view:

1) You have a narrow 44 minute window between your arrival and the train departs. Assuming it lands on time, doesn't taxi for awhile, doesn't park on an outside apron (in which case you'll have to get off the plane and wait for the bus to fill up before driving to the terminal) , you can get off your plane quickly and have no checked baggage, you still have to navigate FRA airport from your gate and get through passport control. FRA is a pretty big place and if you're unlucky and land in C terminal, the walk from there to the exit alone is at least 10 minutes.

2) Then there's the line for passport control, which, if you don't have a European passport, and some other jumbo flights from international destinations are also being processed at the same time, can take a very long time.

3) It's Germany, so you have to asume that the train will depart on time. It isn't difficult to get to the ICE platform. There are 2 unconnected train stations in FRA. You'll need to go to the long-distance terminal which is located outside the main terminal on the other side of the Sheraton Hotel in the Airport City complex. To get there you take the UP escalator from B terminal, cross the bridge over the road then follow the signs through the complex to the long- distance train station. It's about a 10 minute walk from passport control, walking quickly.

So you need to figure approximately 20 minutes in total just for walking, and let's say 10 minutes for passport control. I've done it in less than your 44 minutes, but I can navigate FRA in my sleep blindfolded. As a first-timer doing this, you're taking a big chance, that absolutely nothing will go wrong. One of the Murphy's Laws that frequent travellers must learn to live by is that "Something always goes wrong, when you can least afford it."

But there's another more important reason not to go through with this plan. Assuming your train is on time, you still need to take a taxi from Hennef- Siegburg station which means that you won't get to Bernd's until 9 pm Of the SP you mentioned, Babsi is usually gone by then and Anna usually leaves by 11 (unless I'm keeping Mara occupied). In fact on most of my recent visits, with the exception of Friday's, all of Bernd's virtually closes down at 11, except for the customers and SP who are already in sessions. The girls go into relax mode, the cleaning guy shows up, the lights are turned up in the downstairs lounge, there are few customers and many of the SP have already left. To spend all of that money and travel so long for a quick run through in a half- functioning club, which can lead to an unsatisfying experience, doesn't make sense. Bernd's is an experience that needs to be savored, enjoying the unique chill atmosphere accompanied by horny naked women, perving on the "couch shows", watching the bored SP playing with themselves, participating in the social interchange.

Sorry to burst your bubble. Now it could be, that you will go in any case, the logistics will all work out and you'll have a great time. I hope so, but in this particular case, I think that it makes more sense, and will give you more "bang for your buck", to take the train to Frierichsdorf, which costs less than 4 Euro, and enjoy the pleasures of Oase which closes at 4 a. M.

Iseeu

01-02-12, 18:58

Easier? Maybe, maybe not. More flexible? Certainly. Even in a best case scenario, the car is still slightly more.

The OP didn't mention his exact schedule, just a 16-hour window. The saver fare tickets run 50 Euros according to DB Bahn's website, a cab to & back runs 40 Euros, so 90 Euros total by train & cab. A rental car may Run you a little less (I found one for 70 Euros on Sixt's website) but it's a basic manual transmission which not everyone can drive. Plus, you'll need to pay for gas which is 25-30 Euros and that's 95-100 Euros in total.

Nonetheless, no matter how you get there a trip to Bernds is worthwhile. I've got one planned myself! .It's definitely quicker and easier to take the ICE train. When I have a short window of time, which for making the trip to Bernd's is to be able to spend at least 5 hours in the club, I take the train. Less hassle, no unknowns (tickets, accidents, traffic jams, snow tires, insurance, etc.) and it's about an hour of travel time, so I save at least 20 minutes of time in each direction. If I'm in Germany for a longer period of time, I always have a rental car which facilitates visiting other clubs and coming and going when I want. Very often during the winter, I will still use the train, to avoid driving in inclement weather and the accompanying traffic congestion.

I don't pre-order train tickets because my schedule changes all the time, so I usually end up paying the higher fee. It comes out a little more than a rental car for the day, but if I miss my ongoing flight because of stau, that would cost alot more.

Excess

01-02-12, 20:49

It's definitely quicker and easier.The esteemed name of Isseu was going through my mind a couple of times over the holiday period, as in have not enjoyed one his perceptive and informative posts for seemingly ages. At least since summer.

Trust that 2012 will be good to you Iseeu and that our travels may once again cross, if not in Uncle`s another venue.

Excess.

Bukudala

01-02-12, 23:46

Easier? Maybe, maybe not. More flexible? Certainly. Even in a best case scenario, the car is still slightly more.

The OP didn't mention his exact schedule, just a 16-hour window. The saver fare tickets run 50 Euros according to DB Bahn's website, a cab to & back runs 40 Euros, so 90 Euros total by train & cab. A rental car may Run you a little less (I found one for 70 Euros on Sixt's website) but it's a basic manual transmission which not everyone can drive. Plus, you'll need to pay for gas which is 25-30 Euros and that's 95-100 Euros in total.

Nonetheless, no matter how you get there a trip to Bernds is worthwhile. I've got one planned myself! .Thanks Iseeu, et al. It didn't occur to me that the club would be in the shut down phase, Babsi would be gone, Anna might be busy inspite of the fact she's there until 11; and if my flight were delayed, I'd have a heart attack on the plane. Might as well enjoy my inflight amenities.

I was last at the Palace in 2007, and didn't have a particularly good time. The sharks were in rare form. I visited OASE and Bernd's both in 2009. Loved Bernd's and I first visited OASE back in 2000, during the good old days. Never been to Mainhattan.

So which club would you visit, given my itinerary? I've pretty much ruled out Palace, curious about Mainhattan, and leaning towards OASE.

Then there's the question of accomodations. I could be hardcore, stay at OASE till 5am, save money on accomodations, and make haste for the first class Lufthansa terminal which opens at 5:30 am! My flight's at 1pm.

Nille Copenhagen

01-03-12, 00:07

I was last at the Palace in 2007, and didn't have a particularly good time. The sharks were in rare form. I visited OASE and Bernd's both in 2009. Loved Bernd's and I first visited OASE back in 2000, during the good old days. Never been to Mainhattan.

So which club would you visit, given my itinerary? I've pretty much ruled out Palace, curious about Mainhattan, and leaning towards OASE.

Then there's the question of accomodations. I could be hardcore, stay at OASE till 5am, save money on accomodations, and make haste for the first class Lufthansa terminal which opens at 5:30 am! My flight's at 1pm.Oase in 2000? I supposed is a typo.

I'll vote for.

Go hardcore and sleep in the Kino at Oase while some chicks try BJ you. And stay until 5am.

Jayf1970

01-05-12, 03:57

When I last visited bernd's, I stayed at the Euro Park hotel last time and near the hotel right across Frankfurtstrasse (I think) , there is a place called Club Lamour. Looked like a huge place, probably a strip club, but I didn't go in. Any idea what this is? Never been to a german strip club. Similar deal as the US or anything worth visiting?

Italian Buz

01-05-12, 12:50

Here continues my trip, yesterday I was at my 6th day in a row and completely done but not intending to give up and ready to face my destiny following the latain ditto "per aspera ad astra", I drove to Hennef for a day of complete debauchery!

I was afraid that most of the girls had been on holiday but they were not! So Anna, Magda, Nathalie, Mara, Leonie, Dana, Susy, Ina, Sandy, Jenny and Angie were there so much more than what I could hope!

I stood until 11. 30pm leaving as last guest standing, LOL!

I did twice Dana Who is always incredibly sweet and willing with me, then had a great session with Ina who is a very funny and energetic girl as well as incredibly beautiful with her slender budy and tiny a cups topped by an angelic face. Last was a steamy session with Sandy which left me almost in a coma! I quasi faced the death of the happy warrior with her!

I left then the club with the greetings and cheers of my girls praying me to come back on Friday and I could honestly be' the re tomorrow for an other Sodoma & Gomorra day!

I know as usual that the visuals there are not generally FKK level but Bernds still remains the club where you can always be sure to get the best services whomever you choose! I get such services only from my favorites in the various clubs but after spending a lot of money, here for 50€ you get the best.

Ciao.

ITB

Gooroox

01-05-12, 18:47

Iseeu

01-06-12, 01:44

The esteemed name of Isseu was going through my mind a couple of times over the holiday period, as in have not enjoyed one his perceptive and informative posts for seemingly ages. At least since summer.

Trust that 2012 will be good to you Iseeu and that our travels may once again cross, if not in Uncle`s another venue.

Excess.Hey- Appreciate the kind words. I am visiting the forum and posting less than previously. I haven't stopped mongering, just have less time, with new work responsibilities, to be active online and compose my "perceptive and informative posts ". I always intend to post, and even find myself making mental notes to myself for inclusion in a to be written report, but then reality kicks in when I sit in front of my laptop, and.

Looking forward to mongering together again. Will be at the Hof later this month on Monday, January 16th, for the monthly inspection, if you want to pop in for a pop or two.

Cheers for a great new year!

Italian Buz

01-07-12, 12:30

Now I know such a day exists. I will not enter into details this time, just say I changed my plans and went yesterday to Bernds.

My best day ever in my mongering life, better could not have been. It was simply perfect, that's all.

Thanks to Bernds and its girls to exist, LOL!

Boomer10

01-21-12, 14:38

A quick report: Fans of Sandy, she's back. I saw her at Bernds last Wednesday. 18 Jan. However, her hair is now black.

Yahera

02-08-12, 21:12

Is Mara still at Bernd's?

Boomer10

02-09-12, 04:22

Is Mara still at Bernd's?Yes, and as lovely as ever. She started taking Tuesdays off at the beginning of the year.

Yahera

02-11-12, 10:26

Yes, and as lovely as ever. She started taking Tuesdays off at the beginning of the year.Any forum members going to be at Bernds from Monday Feb 13 through Thursday 16?

Rob Raunch

02-16-12, 21:56

Any forum members going to be at Bernds from Monday Feb 13 through Thursday 16?I just got a new foto from today 16th. I have been missing out on something! (Yahera, [envy mode on] you lucky bastard you! [envy mode off])

[I will try to include it! ]

Gfe Finder

02-18-12, 02:07

I just got a new foto from today 16th. I have been missing out on something! (Yahera, [envy mode on] you lucky bastard you! [envy mode off])

[I will try to include it! ]Rob- you missed a heck of a lot! I should know because I was there!

Yahera- I tried to PM you but it appears I can't. Do you have a subscription?

Red Stripe

02-21-12, 07:54

After reading ISG post on Schieferhof, I finally decided to venture out to this place. So I decide to take a quick three day trip from the States to Deutschland on Saturday Feb 18 to enjoy full day in Oase on Sunday and also planned on spending full day Monday at the Hof. Monday is an American Holiday (President's day) so it allows me to use up Tuesday as the only vacation day (which will be a travel day). Took the flight out of SFO to FRA for 11 miserable hours. I did the Oase thing, and it was cool and all, but it was supposed to be the appetizer to the main course at Bernds. I was so stoked and I actually was saving myself from blowing too much of my load at there, and thus only did so twice in 6 sessions. I'm too chicken shit to drive in Germany so I did the train, taxi, and bus route. So on Monday approximately at 10 am I checked out of Mercure Friedrichsdorf and headed out to Hennef (S5 to RE to S9 to Bus 722) and about 1:45 I was buzzing the door bell at the world famous Bernds, and that's where I became the saddest man in the planet at that point in time. Little did I know that it was also a holiday in Germany, Rosenmontag as they call it. A holloween version of the Mardi Gras (Monday vs. Tueday). Hence Bernds was CLOSED and I felt like an ass. It seemed like everyone in Hennef was dressed in some sort of costume from babies to grand folks. Supposedly there was a festival near Hennef bahnhof which made the return bus (the ride of disappointment) even more shitty as the bus driver had to unload me a 1/2 a mile away from the bahnhof making my shitty day shittier.

Ended the day heading down to Giessen and spending the day at World. Not bad there, and I liked it way better than Oase, but it sucks not being at Bernds. Fuuuuu.

Myrmidon

02-21-12, 20:57

Little did I know that it was also a holiday in Germany, Rosenmontag as they call it.Sorry to hear of your misfortune.

FWIW:

http://www.holidays-info.com/Holidays-Germany/2012/holidays_2012.html

Myr.

Rob Raunch

02-22-12, 01:08

but it sucks not being at Bernds. Fuuuuu.HINT: next time keep an eye out for their twitter-feed:

https://twitter.com/schieferhof

There it said they were closed on Monday.

To bad!

Big30

02-22-12, 16:35

Formally Rosenmontag is nowhere in Germany an official public holiday. But in reality esspecially in NRW (Köln, Düsseldorf area) many offices are closed and some shops are often only open in the morning.

Most other clubs in NRW were open this Monday (LR / GT / VV / PHG etc.) , with normal opening hours, but yes only Bernds considered Rosenmontag as a Feiertag / Public Holiday.

http://www.holidays-info.com/Holidays-Germany/2012/holidays_2012.html

Myr.

Nille Copenhagen

02-22-12, 17:39

Formally Rosenmontag is nowhere in Germany an official public holiday. But in reality esspecially in NRW (Köln, Düsseldorf area) many offices are closed and some shops are often only open in the morning.

Most other clubs in NRW were open this Monday (LR / GT / VV / PHG etc.) , with normal opening hours, but yes only Bernds considered Rosenmontag as a Feiertag / Public Holiday.Bernds is located in a residence area, therefore they have agreed on NOT to open the shop during weekends and Public Holiday to avoid invasion of mongers. The neighbors want some peace and privacy.

So better check the opening hours before coming.

Myrmidon

02-22-12, 21:20

Formally Rosenmontag is nowhere in Germany an official public holiday.Probably why in the link provided it was not in the Legal Holiday section.

Myr.

Red Stripe

02-23-12, 07:13

The twitter feed announcing the closure was posted only a few days before on the 17th, so even if I had read the thing, it would only have saved me from traveling up from the Hessen. Because as monger living in California, I needed to schedule weeks in advance to book the flights, hotel, rail, and time off from work. I would have already been committed to travel to Germany financially. So you guys over there in the EU don't realize how lucky you all are. However, I'm not the type that gives up on things, so I booked two trips this summer, one in May and one in July. So hopefully there are no surprise twitter feeds. It only sucks that I got to wait til May.

Rob Raunch

02-23-12, 18:11

However, I'm not the type that gives up on things, so I booked two trips this summer, one in May and one in July. So hopefully there are no surprise twitter feeds. It only sucks that I got to wait til May.Why not go on the safe-side: send them a mail asking them to check your dates? (THEY will know their closing days months in advance)

(Its not allowed to post mail-adresses here but you can figure it out: just combine the clubs domain-name with 'info')

Have Fun!

Ripple67

02-27-12, 20:02

I was just looking at reviews of Bernd's

When I was there- about twelve months ago. I was disappointed that there were no darker girls there

So I was fascinated to see the photos of Leonie. Does she still work there?

If so I will tank up and get my ass from Belgium to Germany asap.

Ripple

Rob Raunch

03-06-12, 16:05

Rob- you missed a heck of a lot! I should know because I was there!I got their newsletter this morning. They posted new pictures on their website including several of Carnival!

Let me just say;"I see what you mean GFE-finder"

Here is the link to the pictures:

http://fkk-schieferhof.de/hofgalerie.html

@Riple67: Leoni is in the pictures as well, this might answer your question.

See you there!

Dreams

03-07-12, 16:07

I am quite familiar with the big hesse FKKs, but based on reports here and on other fora, I always wanted to try bernds.

As it happens, I may be in the area later this spring, and wnated to check a few things.

I have done my homework and RTFF, so here are my assumptions;

This is a club which

1) have relatively few girls.

2) few girls 8 or above.

3) closes on week ends and holidays.

4) closes early, before midnight.

5) has no garden, sauna, jacuzzi, pool, kino.

6) is in the middle of nowhere.

7) is small.

Well, then why do I want to go?

Because;

1) there is a cosy atmosphere, abit like old brothrls, rather that fuck factory atnosphere like in bigger clubs.

2) good social time, one can talk to the girls in a non rushed way.

3) no sharks.

3) No extras: CIM, COB and even anal when offered included in the 50 Euros session cost.

4) generally good service.

5) quite a lot of public sex.

6) smallcheap hotel in front of the club.

What I am not sure of:

Are the girls all naked? Any dessous tag day? (I want to avoid those!)

Do the girls approach you or is it not allowed?

Is there any or other club in the aera, I mean within 1 hour drive, which people think is better?

I would be most grateful if those familiar with this club could confirm / infirm my above speculations, and add any advice / comment that they think may be useful.

Needless to say that I will report, as I always do.

Cheers

Free Dude

03-07-12, 16:31

What I am not sure of:

Are the girls all naked? Any dessous tag day? (I want to avoid those!)

Do the girls approach you or is it not allowed?

Is there any or other club in the aera, I mean within 1 hour drive, which people think is better?

I would be most grateful if those familiar with this club could confirm / infirm my above speculations, and add any advice / comment that they think may be useful.

Needless to say that I will report, as I always do.

CheersI have never been, but apparantly they do have a small garden and girls aren't allowed to approach you. Compared to the Hessen clubs it is a lot smaller with less girls and maybe less lookers, service should be better though. There are plenty of clubs nearby: Samya (cologne) , PSR (Lohmar) , Finca Erotica (Dierdorf), Babylon (Elsdorf) and Planet (Merzenich) to name just a few.

Fats

03-07-12, 18:03

3) No extras: CIM, COB and even anal when offered included in the 50 Euros session cost.

6) smallcheap hotel in front of the club.Anal is extra.

The hotel Reuter is in the same village but it is by no means in front of the club.

Tobyg

03-07-12, 20:33

Dreams. My comments on your post are.

There are usually about 12. 15 girls here. Can be less at the start of the week.

There are only two extras here. Anal for those who will do it is an extra 50 and bareback sex for those who will do it is an extra 50. CIM or running over the half hour will not cost you extra.

There area a lot of public blowjobs and the occasional public fuck. The most visible fucking is generally on the bed behind the glass screen downstairs.

Reuters hotel is less than 5 mins walk up the road.

All the girls are naked except for the occasional party day. There is no regular dessous day. The party days are identified and their website a couple of weeks in advance.

The girls are not supposed to approach you, but some bend the rule a bit. If you're not interested, they will back off pretty quickly. It doesn't have the sharkish behavior of a lot of other places.

While there are other clubs within an hours drive, I personally don't think any are better than Bernds, but others may disagree.

Shark16

03-07-12, 23:24

I1) have relatively few girls.

2) few girls 8 or above.

5) has no garden, sauna, jacuzzi, pool, kino.

2) good social time, one can talk to the girls in a non rushed way.

5) quite a lot of public sex.Dreams,
I like your reports (FRA / BCN / LDN). Thanks.

I would respond as follows:

1. 15- 20 girls should be expected this time of year.

2. The Richter scale is a highly subjective one in our environment. In my opti-book: 9- 10: None (sadly Jamila has left).7- 8s: 3- 5.

5. There is also a small sauna in the basement.

2b: True, to a certain extent. The girls are there to make money (obviously) , so as a firstimer it is not uncommon that you will experience some signs of girls getting restless after 10- 15 mnts of chatting, as if in "you are wasting my time". However, it depends on your social and language skills (few girls at Bernd's speak English, you need some basic German to fully enjoy the social environment). And it is quite common that - once she understands that you will go with her - she will spend 10- 30 mnts with you outside the room free of charge (including the standard 5- 10 mnts of DFK / BBBJ / HJ). Regulars obviously have clear advantages with regard to social time, but I doubt "chatters" with no serious intentions are any more popular at Bernd's than elsewhere.

Girls talk as much among themselves here as in other clubs. That includes chatting about a firstimer's preferences. I have observed this many times. Top notch service IS a trademark at this club.

5b: It depends on what your expectations are. All sessions are starting with the standard public DFK / BBBJ / HJ on the couches (unless you object). Then the girl will normally invite you to a room, and you are free to suggest that you in stead continue right there on the couch. I doubt none of these girls will shy away. Most couples will IME continue in a room, but then again, each day is different I suppose.

Have fun!

Rob Raunch

03-08-12, 00:21

I have done my homework and RTFF, so here are my assumptions;

This is a club which

1) have relatively few girls.

2) few girls 8 or above.

3) closes on week ends and holidays.

4) closes early, before midnight.

5) has no garden, sauna, jacuzzi, pool, kino.

6) is in the middle of nowhere.

7) is small.1) Relative to the big Clubs like Goldentime 80+ girls or Livingroom 40+ or Parksauna Residenz 50+ it is considered small but on average 15 women (on a good party-themed day 20). They will start of at 13:00 with only 4-6 increasing to full strength around 16:00. The "first-shift" leaves at 22:00 (-4) closing with most of the time 6-8 women at 24:00.

2) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but in my eyes Tina, Leoni, Isabella are definitely 9+

3) Correct, only open at weekdays when there is no Holiday.

4) Close mo-thu 24:00, fri 01:00.

5) Small garden is present, Sauna is present but no pool, jacuzzi or kino.

6) Do-able by public transport but in a small village.

7) Is relatively small (very small compared with the big ones: Residenz, Villa Vertigo, World, etc)

Well, then why do I want to go?

Because;

1) there is a cosy atmosphere, abit like old brothrls, rather that fuck factory atnosphere like in bigger clubs.

2) good social time, one can talk to the girls in a non rushed way.

3) no sharks.

3) No extras: CIM, COB and even anal when offered included in the 50 Euros session cost.

4) generally good service.

5) quite a lot of public sex.

6) smallcheap hotel in front of the club.1) Best atomsphere I have found in a german Club.

2) The women don't look at their watches all the time. But are there to earn money.

3) NO sharks as I have found them in MANY Clubs (they don't survive long in their Team)

4) Best average service I have found in a german Club.

5) That depends on how shy the male-guests are. The girls have done it all and everywhere!

6) Hotel Reuters is I believe 300m from the Club will cost you 35€ for a clean room with a perfect breakfast (been there many times)

What I am not sure of:

Are the girls all naked? Any dessous tag day? (I want to avoid those!)

Do the girls approach you or is it not allowed?

Is there any or other club in the aera, I mean within 1 hour drive, which people think is better?

I would be most grateful if those familiar with this club could confirm / infirm my above speculations, and add any advice / comment that they think may be useful.The girls are allways naked (except at Carnival)

The girls are not allowed to approach you but a simple wink or hand-signal will be enough to a call then over.

Within 1 hour drive you will find at least 8 Clubs but better? Not in my opinion!

I just got their newsletter, if you like public action you should go there on March 23rd!

Have Fun

Horbate

03-08-12, 03:19

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1255439]I am quite familiar with the big hesse FKKs, but based on reports here and on other fora, I always wanted to try bernds.

As it happens, I may be in the area later this spring, and wnated to check a few things.

I have done my homework and RTFF, so here are my assumptions;

Is there any or other club in the aera, I mean within 1 hour drive, which people think is better?

Dreams-

The "village" that Bernd's is in, Lichtenberg, is tiny. You can walk most of the entire place over in about 15 minutes, and it is almost entirely residential. Bernd's opens at 1PM and you may want to go elsewhere early in the day, depending on your interests. If you wake up with a raging hard on at the Reuter's Hotel, and Bernd's is not open yet, take the bus to Hennif, and the S12, 13 minutes toward Koln to the rail stop at Spick. From the rail stop, you can walk to Traum Paradies (Dream Paradise) on Biberweg (interestingly translates to Beaver Way) in 10 minutes. It is a somewhat classy true bordello, and they open at 10 AM. There is no entrance fee, but the price with the lady will cost more than FKK. It is a nice place and you will be treated well by the madame. You will be escorted to a nice bedroom to sit and she will take great care answering all your questions. Then the madame will leave, and a few minutes later, the door will open, and one by one, and the elegantly dressed ladies will enter, walk across the room to you, shake your hand, introduce themselves, and exit. You will have a pen and a pad to make notes. Then the madame will return to answer ANY of your explicit questions of the experience you may expect with the ladies on your list. She will ask you if you would like to choose a lady or would like to leave. You really will not be made to feel at all obligated.

It may not be the kind of experience some guys may like, but I enjoyed the stop last March during the time I was waiting for Bernd's to open, and would go back again. It is my suggestion to "hold you over" if you're the kind of guy that usually likes to get an earlier start than Bernd's offers. Here's the web: http://www.traum-paradies.de/ Oh, and yeh, I picked Jackie.

Horbate

Gfe Finder

03-08-12, 06:09

Hi Dreams,

You've got some pretty good answers already and I agree with many of them so I'll just reply to a few things you brought up below.

I am quite familiar with the big hesse FKKs, but based on reports here and on other fora, I always wanted to try bernds.

As it happens, I may be in the area later this spring, and wnated to check a few things.

I have done my homework and RTFF, so here are my assumptions;

This is a club which

1) have relatively few girls.

2) few girls 8 or above.I'd put Anna and Sandy in the 9+ category.

3) closes on week ends and holidays.

4) closes early, before midnight.For all intents and purposes, yes. While it technically closes at midnight M-Th, the last chance to enter on these days is 11. By then quite a few of the girls have typically gone.

5) has no garden, sauna, jacuzzi, pool, kino.There's a garden out back.

There's a sauna in the basement.

There's a jacuzzi in one of the rooms but I've never, ever seen it used.

There is no pool anymore.

The upstairs bar has a TV showing porn. I don't know if you'd call it a kino per se, but as others have alluded to the kino is more or less all around you as public sex is not uncommon. In the outside garden oral sex but not intercourse is allowed.

6) is in the middle of nowhere.

7) is small.

Well, then why do I want to go?

Because;

1) there is a cosy atmosphere, abit like old brothrls, rather that fuck factory atnosphere like in bigger clubs.

2) good social time, one can talk to the girls in a non rushed way.

3) no sharks.

3) No extras: CIM, COB and even anal when offered included in the 50 Euros session cost.

4) generally good service.

5) quite a lot of public sex.

6) smallcheap hotel in front of the club.

What I am not sure of:

Are the girls all naked? Any dessous tag day? (I want to avoid those!)

Do the girls approach you or is it not allowed?

Is there any or other club in the aera, I mean within 1 hour drive, which people think is better?

I would be most grateful if those familiar with this club could confirm / infirm my above speculations, and add any advice / comment that they think may be useful.1.) Shark16 alluded to this, but while every girl speaks enough English to conduct business, few are fluent. So the more German you know, the better.

2.) Their news page (at http://fkk-schieferhof.de/index_schieferhof_news.htm) will mention upcoming party days. They usually mention whether the girls will be in costume; otherwise you may assume that all the girls will be totally naked. Schieferhof works harder than many other clubs at enforcing this, I've noticed.

Needless to say that I will report, as I always do.

CheersGreat! We look forward to hearing about it.

Dreams

03-08-12, 11:37

I am humbled and grateful for the answers, both high in quantity and quality!

With all this info, I am now well armed to make the most of my visit to Bernds. What attracts me is the "old fashioned" and smallish character of the place, as well as the high probability of good service, and also that CIM / COB are "free", since I can hardly finish inside after my first shot, and having to pay 2-3 times 100 euros for a cim / cob always irritates me.

I will most likely have a second day free, and may try some of the near by places you all suggested, although I also have the desire to try at least once a partytreff AO place.

Unfortunately, it seems that I won't be able to go before May, but still look forward to it. If there is something to add in the mean time, please do so!

Look out for my reports by then.

Thanks again.

Dreams

Toscana

03-08-12, 20:38

The experts forgot the most important tip. Don't be tempted to leave your shoes out on top of your locker. LOL.

Have a great time.

Dreams

03-09-12, 12:04

The experts forgot the most important tip. Don't be tempted to leave your shoes out on top of your locker. LOL.

Have a great time.God! I would definitively have forgotten this! And wandering around outside at midnight in socks would be far more embarassing than fucking in public within the club.

Nille Copenhagen

03-09-12, 12:50

God! I would definitively have forgotten this! And wandering around outside at midnight in socks would be far more embarassing than fucking in public within the club.It's more or less excepted that you have public action in the club, so nothing to be embarrass about.

Dreams

03-10-12, 11:33

It's more or less excepted that you have public action in the club, so nothing to be embarrass about.Hi NC,

That was actually a tongue-in-cheek comment. I, in fact, want to go to Bernds because I know that have a lot of public sex, and I love that.

Jack Andy42

03-13-12, 14:04

Guys,

I haven't been to Hof in ages. During The last trip (6 years or so back) , I was told you can get an extended session in thr room with the bath tub / jet spray and spend some time in there.

Is this still the case? Anyone have details on the cost and time allowed? I turn will post back the results of the findings.

JA

Gooroox

03-13-12, 16:29

Has anyone mentioned Magda has left the Hof and returned to Traum-Paradies?

Boomer10

03-14-12, 02:52

Boomer10

03-22-12, 23:15

Boomer10

03-25-12, 23:31

Since there is sometimes confusion about when the Hof is closed, from their website.

"6. 4. Und 9. 4. Karfreitag und Ostermontag bleibt der Club geschlossen". They're closed on Good Friday and Easter Monday (Apr 6 and 9).

On the plus side, Mara, who has been taking Tues off since Jan, told me she will be in on Tues Apr 10.

Gfe Finder

03-26-12, 03:02

TommySued

04-01-12, 14:00

I am going to Bernds since 2 years now whenever I am in NRW (6-8 times a year).

I like this club because you can easy get AO there. Here my experiences:

Mara, dutch girl next-door type. GF6, loves anal. Really great having her riding on top with my dick in der butt while she is rubbing her clit. CIM, CIP and CIA (cum in arse) possible.

Babsi, blond, end 40 MILF, cute face (I guess with some help of a doctor) , body ok for her age. GF6, she gets really wet when licking. Great feeling penetrating her juicy pussy bareback. CIM and CIP. No idea if she likes anal, must ask next time.

Jenny, tiny blonde greek, GF6 and pornstyle if you like. CIM, CIP and CIA possible.

Dana, Romanian girl, GF6 always great CIP to finish.

Alina, blonde barmaid downstairs, always open for going to a room (another girl will take over the bar). GF6 too. CIP no problem.

Natali, Polish girl, GF6 but pornstyle too if you like, Offers anal, CIM, CIP, CIA.

Erika, Romanian, ugly tits, but no taboos, pornstyle experience, CIM, CIP, CIA.

Leonie, dark-skinned brazilian, GF6, CIP.

Sandra, the masseuse. GF6 (on the massage table or in the room next to massage) , CIM and CIP possible.

Magda, blonde Polish girl, big tits. Great titfuck, GF6, CIP. Apparently she has left for Traumparadies again.

Sandy, tall and slim girl. Submissive girl, always asks for slaps in her face or on her butt. CIP.

Bareback is 50 Euro extra. For the girl offering anal it is 50 Euro on top. No extra cash for CIM.

Gooroox

04-01-12, 18:57

Babsi, blond, end 40 MILF, cute face (I guess with some help of a doctor) , body ok for her age. GF6, she gets really wet when licking. Great feeling penetrating her juicy pussy bareback. CIM and CIP. No idea if she likes anal, must ask next time.Babsie does not make Anal sex and IMHO does not have AO on her list of services. Apart from that, she's still very hot for her age and her performances on the couch and in the room is simply astonishing!

Rob Raunch

04-02-12, 08:13

TommySued

04-02-12, 11:44

IMHO does not have AO on her list of services.You are wrong. But it is okay, not every guest is getting that special service.

Tobyg

04-03-12, 11:27

Babsie does not make Anal sex and IMHO does not have AO on her list of services. Apart from that, she's still very hot for her age and her performances on the couch and in the room is simply astonishing!This is very much a case of YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I know for a fact that Babsie does (but that she doesn't do anal) , but I'm a little surprised to see a couple of other names on that list. There are also a couple of names which I could put on that list that aren't there.

It all comes down to what they're prepared to offer to an individual client.

Marwar58

04-04-12, 09:46

I've visited twice last year and three times this year. Previous tours through the Frankfurt trio, Coliseum Augsberg, and Artemis Berlin. Overall, I think this club is tops for the girl experience. The age ranges are higher (I think Babsi is 50 or so in contrast to recent post) , but the service and included extras make up for it. If you don't speak German, many have posted that this is a negative. However, you can adjust to this-many girls can speak a little. The best English speakers are Mara, Babsi, and Susan. I met Katia recently and she's pretty good too. She has been there 14 years, but now only works part time, so you never know if she will be there. Many others know enough English to make the experience rewarding such as Ana and Erika. The weakest (but still fun sessions) are Leoni and Natali. Madga is awesome all around with performance and English but has left as posted (one girl just said she was on holiday so maybe a return). There are several others I have not visited with-looks like they have 10-15 on a given day.

The other posted negative is the smallness of the club and lack of much to do in between. I have found it feasible to pass the time-generally needing 90 min or so between sessions. The sauna can take up some time. Garden if warm. Take some newspapers / magazines and can read them in the dining area. The porn tv can occupy a little, but the sound is not on so not so interesting. Relaxing downstairs works for a while. There is the back corner open area-good for getting in a nap if jet lagged.

The girls say the number of English speaking visitors is fairly low, perhaps from the reviews, so just wanted to review my experience. When you've had enough of being chased around the other clubs by the sharks, give Bernd's a day.

Marwar58

04-04-12, 09:50

Nice review of the line-up. In my visits, have never seen Sandra the masseuse. Maybe she is there but have to ask? Also did not know Alina ever went to the rooms-haven't seen that but interesting to know.

I am going to Bernds since 2 years now whenever I am in NRW (6-8 times a year).

I like this club because you can easy get AO there. Here my experiences:

Mara, dutch girl next-door type. GF6, loves anal. Really great having her riding on top with my dick in der butt while she is rubbing her clit. CIM, CIP and CIA (cum in arse) possible.

Babsi, blond, end 40 MILF, cute face (I guess with some help of a doctor) , body ok for her age. GF6, she gets really wet when licking. Great feeling penetrating her juicy pussy bareback. CIM and CIP. No idea if she likes anal, must ask next time.

Jenny, tiny blonde greek, GF6 and pornstyle if you like. CIM, CIP and CIA possible.

Dana, Romanian girl, GF6 always great CIP to finish.

Alina, blonde barmaid downstairs, always open for going to a room (another girl will take over the bar). GF6 too. CIP no problem.

Natali, Polish girl, GF6 but pornstyle too if you like, Offers anal, CIM, CIP, CIA.

Erika, Romanian, ugly tits, but no taboos, pornstyle experience, CIM, CIP, CIA.

Leonie, dark-skinned brazilian, GF6, CIP.

Sandra, the masseuse. GF6 (on the massage table or in the room next to massage) , CIM and CIP possible.

Magda, blonde Polish girl, big tits. Great titfuck, GF6, CIP. Apparently she has left for Traumparadies again.

Sandy, tall and slim girl. Submissive girl, always asks for slaps in her face or on her butt. CIP.

Bareback is 50 Euro extra. For the girl offering anal it is 50 Euro on top. No extra cash for CIM.

Free Dude

04-04-12, 10:48

@TS Again, I don't believe Bernds advertises AO and this list with girls that apparantly sometimes do it has no place on an internet forum. I already reported the post in the other thread, but nothing has been done about it. This is really not done you guys!

Gooroox

04-04-12, 19:04

Bukudala

04-04-12, 20:13

I've been offered (and have practised) AO with some girls at Bernd's but as this is not a Tabulos forum, I won't specify who with (for reasons you guys probably understand). In fact, once you have become a SP's regular, she will offer you extra services. By the way, some girls / women do NOT offer AO at all. For example Katja, don't even think of asking her or she'll rip your balls off (and I'm serious!).

As far as Sandra is concerned, she works on Mondays / Wednesdays / Fridays from 1 to 6 pm.AO is offered in most FKK's, but at a price, and YMMV. The provider may offer AO to you and not to me, or vise versa. Both rapport and discretion are a must since neither party wants "AO lover-provider" tattooed on their foreheads unless you're in a Tabulos free club like La Luna Moers or Dolce Vita Raubach.

I think it's inappropriate to list specific names on this thread.

I was at Bernd's once two years ago and asked a well known and long time provider if she offered AO. It took a lot of courage and I stuttered when I asked. 100 Euros later. 50E+50E, I was curiously really satisfied for being so naughty.

Flame me if you like, but if we're all looking for absolute safe sex, then we should build a bubble at home and stay in it. BTW, I tested negative for all STD's last November, but my liver needs a holiday. Cheers.

Hessen Bub

04-04-12, 20:42

AO is offered in most FKK's, but at a price, and YMMV. The provider may offer AO to you and not to me, or vise versa. Both rapport and discretion are a must since neither party wants "AO lover-provider" tattooed on their foreheads .AO doesn't mean extra money. It might, but this is a sign that a girl is used to have BB sex, which for me does result in not booking her.

HB

Rob Raunch

04-05-12, 16:29

I think it's inappropriate to list specific names on this thread.I agree, when listing certain services a girl provides (especially these) you might bring her in a difficult position. It could be that the information is not 100% correct but the next Monger could say "why don't you give me that service? I know you do, it said so on the internet!"

Or have you ever thought about the consequences that if a forum-member (incorrectly) posted that Miss X performs AO and her Husband or Boyfriend reads it? Women that work in Clubs do have families!

If you like certain (non standard) services and they are provided to you for whatever reason (money or just because you are a great guy) then just enjoy your privileges and keep it between you and the girl.

To me AO is not something I like or pay extra for. I do not judge people who practice it, I just discourage it. The girls at Bernds are checked by a Doctor every 3 weeks (I talked to the guy several times, he mostly comes in on Wednesdays. He is a local-medical-specialist, a nice guy with a mustache that drinks something at the bar before he leaves after he checked all the ladies)

Lets keep everyone who is involved in this fantastic hobby; safe, healthy and happy.

Shasar

04-09-12, 23:16

Kiwi 69

04-10-12, 21:14

[QUOTE=TommySued; 1264108]I am going to Bernds since 2 years now whenever I am in NRW (6-8 times a year).

I like this club because you can easy get AO there. Here my experiences:

This a$$wipe has been posting this all over the internet, some forums have deleted it already. Out of consideration for our friends at Bernds we should all report this post (and any quotes containing names) to Jackson.

Red Stripe

04-20-12, 00:17

Forcharles

04-21-12, 04:49

Hey guys, ever time I try to check in at Reuters, it seems like they're always closed during the afternoons. Several times I arrived in Hennef wanting to drop off all my stuff in my room before heading out to Bernds, but the door to the hotel / restaurant was always locked. I arrived around 2pm to 4pm-ish. So I had to carry all my stuff into Bernds and crammed everything into their small lockers. But when I do head out in the evenings, Reuter was open fortunately. Do you know when Reuter's normal operating hours are?You have to knock or ring the main door. If no answer, Mr. Reuters may be preparing food in the kitchen inside the left door. Once I got no answer, so I used my cell phone to call the hotel number and reported that I was at the door ready to check in.

TommySued

04-21-12, 15:08

Hi Tommy,

Thanks for the nice posting. I agree with most of your stats but how did you "convince" Mara to do AO (especially CIA)?

I know her for years I despite of CIM (with swallowing. And intensive bare pussy rubbing I had no AO with her.

She is indeed an intersting girl but I did not found the right way so far to persuade her.

CheersShasar,

First time I met her, I asked her discretly and she accepted immediately pointing out it will cost.

An "extra programm". After the 4th or 5th time with her, she asked if I would like to take her anal. This was automatically AO then.

On my latest visits there I had hot AO sessions with Jenny, Nathali, Babsi, Angie and Susan.

Pretty hot at Bernds are also AO trio with.

2 girls.

Rob Raunch

04-22-12, 07:37

Hey guys, ever time I try to check in at Reuters, it seems like they're always closed during the afternoons. Do you know when Reuter's normal operating hours are?I had the same experience several times. Usually he is either buying his groceries or making deliveries between 12:30 and 16:00 (thats what he told me) but no problem here. Just let Conny phone him and he will bring the key for your room to the club when he delivers the food at the club. Now you can decide if you are going out for a little walk in between sessions (since Bernds works with "Tages-Karten". You pay for whole day entrance, multiple entry so to speak hahaha just tell Conny you will be back) and put your stuff in your room OR take it with you at the end of the day.

The other trick is (if you are a regular customer) to arrange for Reuter to leave the key somewhere outside for you to pickup while he is away (he has got some hiddingplaces I will not mention here) living in a small German village has its positive sides to!

Had the same thing happen to me at breakfast also. He had some things to do so I payed my 35€ when I came down to eat and he sayed "just leave the key in the room when you go" and left the hotel (since everything for having breakfast is on your table. You can feed several people with that!)

Yes, Reuter is a small village-hotel and sometimes its a bit noisy (caused by other hotel guests) but its clean, within walking-distance of the Club (just a few minutes) and at 35€ (including a massive breakfast) at an unbeatable price / quality ratio (his phonenumber is on the Bernds-website under "Hotels").

I had some good experiences at Hotel Landsknecht also but the price is a little higher (about 20€ more) and you need transportation to get there.

Have FUN!

LustyHombre

04-23-12, 07:04

Greetings,

Haven't been to DE in 10 yrs (liked Oase and Atlantis then, and Zeil 39, hated Sudfass) and have an opportunity to escape reality for about 6 hrs tomorrow Tue Apr 24 afternoon while driving from BRU to FRA.

I like them pretty and shapely and smart (in that order) and sensuous and wild and liberal / open minded when it comes to pretending that I'm just the best lover she's ever had.

I'm Caucasian, fairly athletic, pushing 70, fluent in Deutsch and have maybe 3 rounds in me during 3 hrs or so.

Which place would offer me the best selection and ambiance?

Thanks in advance!

Dreams

04-24-12, 09:45

I had the same experience several times. Usually he is either buying his groceries or making deliveries between 12:30 and 16:00 (thats what he told me) but no problem here. Just let Conny phone him and he will bring the key for your room to the club when he delivers the food at the club. Now you can decide if you are going out for a little walk in between sessions (since Bernds works with "Tages-Karten". You pay for whole day entrance, multiple entry so to speak hahaha just tell Conny you will be back) and put your stuff in your room OR take it with you at the end of the day.

The other trick is (if you are a regular customer) to arrange for Reuter to leave the key somewhere outside for you to pickup while he is away (he has got some hiddingplaces I will not mention here) living in a small German village has its positive sides to!

Had the same thing happen to me at breakfast also. He had some things to do so I payed my 35€ when I came down to eat and he sayed "just leave the key in the room when you go" and left the hotel (since everything for having breakfast is on your table. You can feed several people with that!)

Yes, Reuter is a small village-hotel and sometimes its a bit noisy (caused by other hotel guests) but its clean, within walking-distance of the Club (just a few minutes) and at 35€ (including a massive breakfast) at an unbeatable price / quality ratio (his phonenumber is on the Bernds-website under "Hotels").

I had some good experiences at Hotel Landsknecht also but the price is a little higher (about 20€ more) and you need transportation to get there.

Have FUN!2 quick questions:

Do they have wi fi access? I like to be able to consult ISG just before going in the club.

And how do you book if you don't speak German?

Angus Magee

04-24-12, 10:28

2 quick questions:

Do they have wi fi access? I like to be able to consult ISG just before going in the club.

And how do you book if you don't speak German?No wifi when I was there but that was two years back and could have changed. I kind of doubt it though as it really is a sort of small town / old world sort of place and that is a big part of its' charm in my opinion. I guess some guys like all the modern convenience (as do I at time) but Reuters is not like that. When I arrived Herr reuter was not there and he simply told me to look in one of his hiding spots for the key and check myself in. When I tried to pay in advance he waved it aside and I settled the bill as I checked out. There is just something that feels good when staying there even though it is not up to the modern standards of a 2012 hotel.

As for booking-I speak a bit of German and on the phone I find it very difficult, but I managed with some broken phrases to make myself understood. All you really need to know how to say is that you want a room, what day / time you arrive and how many nights. The hard part is understanding his replies as his accent is not easy to get even if you do speak German.

AM

Boomer10

04-24-12, 11:46

No WIFI.

I contact them by email available at:

http://www.bernds-saunaclub.de/index_schieferhof_hotels.htm

in english with my name and dates. During the week I usually get a response the next day, over weekends, it's the next Monday.

They can get busy, so book as early as you possible.

2 quick questions:

Do they have wi fi access? I like to be able to consult ISG just before going in the club.

And how do you book if you don't speak German?

Pigsy

04-25-12, 15:07

Think its funny that the hotel near the club is called "rooters"!

After finding this forum and reading the wealth of fantastic info you guys have provided have booked a weeks side trip to nwr in late June (19 25)

Will visit Bernds prob 21st and stay at Hotel Reuters that night.

Just lost my forum virginity and will lose my FKK when I get there.

Thanks again

Red Stripe

04-26-12, 17:33

Do you guys know if Bernds is open for Whit Montag May 28? I tried emailing them, but no response.

Thanks in advance

Angus Magee

04-26-12, 18:54

Do you guys know if Bernds is open for Whit Montag May 28? I tried emailing them, but no response.

Thanks in advanceI can not say for sure but I would think it is doubtful that it will be open.

AM

Nille Copenhagen

04-26-12, 19:04

Do you guys know if Bernds is open for Whit Montag May 28? I tried emailing them, but no response.

Thanks in advanceThey are closed on weekends and public holidays, that is the local rule.

Big30

04-27-12, 00:17

Do you guys know if Bernds is open for Whit Montag May 28? I tried emailing them, but no response.

Thanks in advanceBernds will be closed Whit Monday / Pfingstmontag.

B30

George Bickham

04-30-12, 08:05

I had a good visit a couple of weeks ago, and decided to report, as it broke a cycle of rather poor visits. For the last couple of years Bernds has had two linked problems. An ageing clientele, and a waning range of providers, which seemed to be linked in a downwards spiral. Having visited Bernds for more than 10 years now (remember the swimming pool in the cellar?) , I would say that the average age of visitors has gone from 40 or so to more like 55-60. I don't know whether the younger ones have gone to PSR or World, or are simply staying at home playing computer games, but despite considerable efforts by Bernds to attract a younger crowd, most days there seem to be only 10-20 punters there compared to 30 or 40 over a day a few years ago, and they tend to be pretty old. And despite chemical additives, older men pop less often and take longer to pop. So less couch action to watch between sessions, and less opportunity to see the girls in action with someone else before you buy.

There's also been a thinning out of the providers, IMHO. Four or five years ago you could count on 15. 18girls most days, and there were always some stars in attendance. Plus there were enough attractive alternatives that you always had a couple of fallbacks if your intended wasn't there or went off with someone else. And there was always a reason to come back next time (I never caught up with Mahe and Luna, for example). Then with the loss of Rita, Tanya, Svenja, Djamila, Debbie and a couple of others over a very short period, the options got a lot more limited. Numbers seem to have come down, too, with 10 or 12 girls most days. And as I don't normally go with older and plumper girls, my options were becoming pretty limited. All in all, each of my last few visits have been a bit disappointing, and the moment when I went off to World or Golden Time got closer.

So two weeks ago it was a pleasure to arrive at the Hof one fine Wednesday to find about 14 girls in attendance, with a considerable upgrade to the offer in the form of Rosa (new Italian girl with a killer bod, probably around 23) , Ela (pretty curvaceous Romanian) and Isabella (Brazilian). Plus resident stars Babsi, Mara, Carmen, Leonie, Anna, Mara, and Nathalie, with also Dana and Angie and some others. Only about 10 clients, though.

Just as I entered, a tall bottle-blonde girl of about 25 with slightly saggy boobs came down from upstairs, shyly removed her towel and was given a brief tour by Connie (who was in a foul temper. Some things at Bernds never change.). My head told me to wait and see her with someone else, my hips said why not take her Bernds virginity? Head and hips fought for a while. Hips won. They always do.

And so I found myself sitting next to Veronica, a nervous Czech girl who didn't really know what to do. A bit of a chat (she had previously worked at GT) , a bit of BBBJ on the couch and off to the room. In the room she wasn't very impressive. Didn't want to be licked, didn't like deep BBBJ, didn't like this, didn't want that. So I came and then I went. Probably the most polite thing I can say is that she has a lot to learn if she's going to last at Bernds.

Then a long talk to a first time visitor from Down Under on a valedictory tour to Germany. We compared impressions and histories, and then I saw him go off for a long session with Mara followed by a session on the swing with Leonie. Clearly a man of taste.

Spent a bit of time over my next choice. Rosa looked absolutely stunning, tall, slender with beautiful round breasts and a nice face. But the one time I saw her in action it looked a little businesslike. Isabella similarly looked good, but Ela had a more open face and a friendlier smile. So time to sample Ela from Romania.

Ela is 21 or so, curvy but not fat, with a friendly face and a nice attitude. On the couch she gave an enthusiastic BBBJ, and good sex in the room with a range of positions. Finished off with her legs over my shoulders. All in all, a good session, and probably to be repeated.

I rounded off the trip with an anal session with Mara, which is always to be the nec plus ultra of Bernds. She is so calm and sensual! A GFE session on the couch while my Antipodean friend lay back opposite receiving a fine BBBJ from Nathalie, and then off to the room for some wonderful sex. Always the highlight of the trip.

So Bernds is starting to strengthen its line-up again, and I hope the trend for more and prettier girls continues. They're also trying hard to increase their clientele, with events and so on, and we have to hope it brings in some younger punters to start the virtuous circle of more men and more SPs.

A word on the AO debate : I have been offered AO by several SP's at Bernds (I won't say whom). Like Kiwi69, I don't accept and normally I don't go back with them. If she'll do AO with me, she'll do AO with someone else, and this sport is dangerous enough as it is. But at the risk of being severely flamed, we ought to remember that prices in the NRW clubs are the same as they were since at least 2000. DM 100 and then EUR 50. Inflation in that time has been almost 30. So if you're a working girl, your choices are either: smile and take a 2. 5% pay cut every year, work harder, shark, or try to upsell with services like AO. It's to the credit of most of the Bernds girls that they've also kept smiling and working harder.

If we want to do something about sharking and risky practices, maybe we'll have to accept a price incraese.

FairTrade for working girls, anyone?

Saucehollandaise

06-12-12, 21:53

There is just something that feels good when staying there even though it is not up to the modern standards of a 2012 .I don't know about Reuters but I guess that also can be said of Bernd's. As I said to a lady there on one of my visits (not long after I tried PSR for the first and only time and compared the two) : "bernd's is actually nothing and yet at the same time it is all and everything".

And it relates a bit to the post by George.

There's also been a thinning out of the providers, IMHO. Four or five years ago you could count on 15. 18girls most days, and there were always some stars in attendance. Plus there were enough attractive alternatives that you always had a couple of fallbacks if your intended wasn't there or went off with someone else. And there was always a reason to come back next time (I never caught up with Mahe and Luna, for example). Then with the loss of Rita, Tanya, Svenja, Djamila, Debbie and a couple of others over a very short period, the options got a lot more limited.Now I don't know all that left (fortunately I was once able to visit Brandi after she left at Bernd's and shortly before she stopped completely) , I just had experience with Rita, Tanya (actually my first Bernd's girl) , Jamila ans Svenja. Goodlooking young women, experts but I found them all a bit more "distant" than most Bernd's ladies. For instance with ladies like Mara and Anna, I get a sort of "coming home" feeling, not with the aforementioned girls.

Ofcourse when I heard that some of them worked at PSR, I went there too, and yes I met them there. And they seemed even more "distant" there. While stunners at Bernd's and with good service, they did not really fit in in the "house" that Bernd; s is, ratrher than a "club".

Myrmidon

06-16-12, 23:09

My 9 day tour of FKK clubs continues at Bernd's. My previous report is here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen

One of the focal points of my trip was to be a visit to Bernd's Sauna Club. I had originally planed to go on a Thursday and get the discount on the train portion of the travel, but when I arrived in Frankfurt I determined that the Thursday in question was a holiday, and I knew that Bernd's closed for holidays. Now I wondered if they would close Friday for the long weekend? A quick check of their web site determined that not only would they be open, but it would be Couch Action Tag. What exactly this meant I was about to learn. Oh, and did I mention that there were twins at the club?

Day 5 Bernd's Sauna Club 1PM. 7PM.

So on the Monday of my arrival I went to the DB office in the Frankfurt Hbf and made my bookings for trains to / from Hennef (Seig). The discounted cost was 93€ + a 5€ surcharge for having them book the tickets. I could have saved the 5€ using a ticket machine, but the ease seemed worth it. The non-discounted fee would have been 122€.

When the Friday arrived I made my way to Hennef and then took a taxi on to Bernd's for 13€, tipped to 18€. Upon getting into the taxi outside the Hennef station I mentioned Lichtenburg to the driver and he replied: Oh Bernd's!

I arrived about 20 minutes early and was shortly joined by twins from Germany. Sorry, they were male. At 1PM we all paid our 70€ entrance and the games began. This being a special day and perhaps because the day before they were closed, there was a steady stream of men into the club. There was also just as steady a stream of satisfied customers back out after a single session. These were obviously regulars who came to see their favourite and then leave. There were enough of us others who were staying to keep the place full but not too crowded.

There were many girls there that I recognized by sight but did not know their names. As this is a club where you approach the girls, I did not get their names because I did not want to have them think I was going with all of them. I did recognize Babsi though, and blondes Anna and the masseuse Sandy.

Being a smaller club it is a little easier to get down to it. I had been eyeing Erica, a Romanian who was well tanned, wore lots of eye make up and had saggy breasts, with a little tummy damage from childbirth. These latter two characteristics may turn some off, but with her attractive face and manner I was encouraged to continue. It may well also reflect that I happened to be sitting close to her and had taken some chemical assistance.

In any event, we got closer and the touching, kissing began. Before I knew it we were on our way with the BBBJ. At this point Erica explained to me that Couch Action Tag meant that if we started and finished on the couch, my session was free to me and she would be paid by the house. Oh. Considering that I knew no one there and was not likely to ever see any of them again, (and in light of my Kino performance at Oase with Jamberlayne) I consented. We moved the coffee table out of the way and spread out on the couch. Things seemed to be going along just fine, but then I became more aware of two or three others in the room keeping a not too discreet eye on us. At least that's my excuse for going flat all of a sudden. Thus thrown, we excused ourselves to the zimmer at the end of the hall. Then the gloves came off, so to speak, and we had a true PSE, to finish. Lots of sloppy BJ, DATY and DFK with this one. But it still cost me 50€.

You may have noted that I consented to a BBBJ in this club. That is because I know, from personal experience, that the club holds 'Doctor Day' once every three weeks where a local physician comes in and tests the girls. I am not aware of this policy at any other club.

But back to the Couch Action. I witnessed Erica succeed twice more and a tall good looking young Romanian also brought a large gentleman to a successful conclusion on the couch.

But I was not through yet. I had already been downstairs and seen Katja, the Russian beauty. She had been one of the reasons I had first gone to Bernd's and I had sessioned with her before and lived to tell about it. She had not been present on subsequent visits, so I would make sure not to miss her this time.

Katja is a little older, well tanned and with a terrific set of natural Ds. She is a sensual creature, wearing her brunette hair up in back. As happened the first time I saw Katja, once I made eye contact she was mine. Returning to the room from freshening up she came right over to me and we began to re-acquaint ourselves on the sofa. As per custom, there was chit-chat, followed in short order by kissing, then her laying on my lap and giving me a behind the back HJ. Once firm, I received a stunning BBBJ until I commanded that we seek out a room. In the zimmer the DFK only seemed to escalate and lead to more BBBJ. Some 69 and a couple of positions later I was putty in her hands.

Two brilliant sessions for only 50€ each. Call me a cab. I was back at Seigburg (Bonn) via Hennef for 16€ tip included.

It began to rain profusely and I had a little time to kill before my train back to Frankfurt. I wandered a bit and then had a fine mushroom pizza at Sultan Pizza-Donair in the complex for only 4€.

Myr.

My next report is here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1464-FKK-World-Giessen&p=1293906#post1293906

Member #4285

06-17-12, 01:20

At this point Erica explained to me that Couch Action Tag meant that if we started and finished on the couch, my session was free to me and she would be paid by the house.Say again? You can have free sex on the couch? Wich days or how often is this happening?

Myrmidon

06-17-12, 04:35

Say again? You can have free sex on the couch? Wich days or how often is this happening?I think you can find your answer in George Bickham's post below:

So Bernds is starting to strengthen its line-up again, and I hope the trend for more and prettier girls continues. They're also trying hard to increase their clientele, with events and so on, and we have to hope it brings in some younger punters to start the virtuous circle of more men and more SPs.I would say this is one such event designed to improve attendance as it livens the place up. When & how often? Read their web site & various blogs like Twitter for announcements.

The catch is of course that you must start, ie BBBJ, and finish, ie cum, while on the couch.

M.

HappyNaNanda8

06-17-12, 09:52

From their website:

Unsere Öffnungszeiten:

Montag. Donnerstag von 13. 00 Uhr bis 0. 00 Uhr

Letzter Einlass 23. 00 Uhr.

Freitags von 13. 00 Uhr bis 1. 00 Uhr

Letzter Einlass 23. 00 Uhr.Does this mean Bernds is closed on weekends?

Thanks in advance!

Dreams

06-17-12, 09:59

I think you can find your answer in George Bickham's post below:

I would say this is one such event designed to improve attendance as it livens the place up. When & how often? Read their web site & various blogs like Twitter for announcements.

The catch is of course that you must start, ie BBBJ, and finish, ie cum, While on the couch.

M.And to be more precise, cumming does not necessarily mean cumming inside, BBJCCIM is enough? In other words no penetration required? I personally feel that I could easily achieve CIM in public, but less likely FS.

Jymondor

06-17-12, 12:33

So Bernds is starting to strengthen its line-up again, and I hope the trend for more and prettier girls continues.How many of new prettier girls speak English? Lack of German was my problem in Shiferhof.

Myrmidon

06-17-12, 13:02

And to be more precise, cumming does not necessarily mean cumming inside, BBJCCIM is enough? In other words no penetration required? I personally feel that I could easily achieve CIM in public, but less likely FS.Exactly. I tried with penetration but failed. The three others I saw were all CIM.

The only 'new' girl I saw this time was the good looking tall Romanian with the straight black hair. She was quite busy and I noted when she did the young guy on the couch I heard him speak English to her. He had a French accent. So I can't say for sure, but I've never found lack of German to be a problem. You just get to the couch action a bit quicker.

M.

Ableyone

06-17-12, 13:49

Too bad this place is closed on weekends otherwise I would have visited years ago.

The three others I saw were all CIM.May I ask did any of these have FS and finish with CIM or just BBBJTCIM? Also do you know if there any limit (other than having to finish that is) to the number of free sessions you can have?

Ableyone.

Myrmidon

06-17-12, 14:40

Too bad this place is closed on weekends otherwise I would have visited years ago.

May I ask did any of these have FS and finish with CIM or just BBBJTCIM? Also do you know if there any limit (other than having to finish that is) to the number of free sessions you can have?

Ableyone.All were BBBJTCIM, I was the only one foolish enough to try FS. Don't know if there is a limit to the number of free sessions you can have.

M.

Gooroox

06-17-12, 15:27

There were many girls there that I recognized by sight but did not know their names. As this is a club where you approach the girls, I did not get their names because I did not want to have them think I was going with all of them. I did recognize Babsi though, and blondes Anna and the masseuse Sandy.Nice report! Sandy is not a masseuse, though, she is a normal SP. You probably meant the VERY friendly masseuse Sandra (blonde, slim, over 40 and a performance on / off the massage table to die for)

Myrmidon

06-17-12, 15:56

Nice report! Sandy is not a masseuse, though, she is a normal SP. You probably meant the VERY friendly masseuse Sandra (blonde, slim, over 40 and a performance on / off the massage table to die for)You're quite right. My error. So many beautiful women & so many names to match up.

M.

Boomer10

06-17-12, 20:26

All were BBBJTCIM, I was the only one foolish enough to try FS. Don't know if there is a limit to the number of free sessions you can have.

M.They advertise a total of 10 sessions for the club on the day the special is available. So I suppose if you're the only one interested and taking them up on the offer, the limit would be 10.

In truth, FS in the public areas isn't that uncommon. One girl commented to me that she thought public FS was good for business because it would get the guys horny and she regularly encouraged guys to try it with her. I think this is an attempt by management to "get back to their roots" and maintain (re-establish?) what's special about the club.

Boomer10

06-17-12, 20:36

From their website:

Does this mean Bernds is closed on weekends?

Thanks in advance!Yes, they are closed on all weekends and federal holidays and state holidays and some bank holidays.

Check their web site (the news link) , recently, they've been much better about announcing what days they will be closed. They've also been including it in their monthly newsletter.

Gggfan

06-20-12, 03:09

You may have noted that I consented to a BBBJ in this club. That is because I know, from personal experience, that the club holds 'Doctor Day' once every three weeks where a local physician comes in and tests the girls. I am not aware of this policy at any other club.

This point has already been discussed here in the past with different informations. You seem to be very sure about your information.

Myrmidon

06-20-12, 03:57

This point has already been discussed here in the past with different informations. You seem to be very sure about your information.
Well, of course no one, particularly me, is infallible. I only know that last year I was there when both girls & clients were slow to appear from 1 to about 2 PM. In response to my query, Babsi advised the Dr. Day story, and I chose to believe it. I have seen another report of it here, (Post#2100 04-05-2012 I believe). Of course I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, nor the last.

If I seemed overly confident, well that's just because I believe it.

M.

Gggfan

06-20-12, 04:24

Well, of course no one, particularly me, is infallible. I only know that last year I was there when both girls & clients were slow to appear from 1 to about 2 PM. In response to my query, Babsi advised the Dr. Day story, and I chose to believe it. I have seen another report of it here, (Post#2100 04-05-2012 I believe). Of course I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time, nor the last.

If I seemed overly confident, well that's just because I believe it.

M.Thanks for sharing your source.

I'm a believer too! BBBJ and CIMatBernds is too good to be missed!

Boomer10

06-20-12, 12:34

Thanks for sharing your source.

I'm a believer too! BBBJ and CIMatBernds is too good to be missed!Here's a quote from their current newsletter:

Haben wir schon erwähnt, theß unsere Mädels alle drei Wochen von unserem Doktor besucht werden? Er achtet darauf das unsere Frauen topfit bleiben!

Courtesy of Google translate:

Did we mention that our girls are visited every three weeks from our doctor? He makes sure that our women stay in top shape!

And during my last visit, the young woman I was sitting with excused herself with "It's my turn to see the doctor."

Gggfan

06-21-12, 23:36

Here's a quote from their current newsletter:

Haben wir schon erwähnt, theß unsere Mädels alle drei Wochen von unserem Doktor besucht werden? Er achtet darauf das unsere Frauen topfit bleiben!

Courtesy of Google translate:

Did we mention that our girls are visited every three weeks from our doctor? He makes sure that our women stay in top shape!

And during my last visit, the young woman I was sitting with excused herself with "It's my turn to see the doctor."If they state it in their newsletter and you have witnessed it directly from the girl. A really good and reliable source.

As said I was a believer in this before, but now I will enjoy the BBBJ and CIM even more in Bernds! That's really heaven!

And thanks for your report on couch action Tag : I've always wanted to be there on that day but never made it. Hopefully such days will help the Bernds be back on its roots as you as you wrote it

Member #4285

06-29-12, 04:39

From google translate:

06.07: Football free-discount-day. 50 € entry. At last, the football fans back fully on. Really important things to concentrate. E. G. A good conversation!

13.07: Giving away our girls pampering today. "Do you feel lucky?"

20.07: Beach Party and BBQ. We now pray for good weather. For a rollicking summer party! Our girls want to show off their super tiny bikinis. And maybe even a little tempted!

27.07: Olympics-off-day. 50 € entry. We start practicing for the big show at the Olympic couch tag. And you can also use the matches we watch on TV.

1. What is "do you feel lucky"?

2. On the 27:th there is the couch action tag! or maybe its not a couch action tag..?

Rob Raunch

07-02-12, 20:32

1. What is "do you feel lucky"?

2. On the 27th there is the couch action tag! Or maybe its not a couch action tag?1."do you feel lucky" is probably a reference to the fact that they are giving away free girl-programs (lottery)

2. They published their newsletter on their website today and their next Couch action day is August 10th (the 27th is a Rebate Day)

Have Fun!

Free Dude

07-03-12, 13:14

They changed the original newletter. 27 July it is olympia rabatt tag, with 50 entry. The next couch action day is in early August (if I remember correctly the 10th). So the original point: surprise at 50 euro and couch action, was well founded.

KoffeGuy

07-04-12, 13:57

I took a flight to frankfurt on 22 may. From airport I took a train ice ticket to koln. In between I get off one station to go to bernds fkk. It was my first tour to bernds, as I heard many good things about this club. I must say this was my worse decion as this is one off the worse fkk club in germany I must say. Paid fee and when I enter I saw around 12 womens, yeah they were around 40s and 50s. Most of the customers were local and above 50s. Out of 12, I find only 2 young girls (Romanian). I took one of the girl. Sevice was not to bad but there was no use to go that far just for an everage service. So if you are local and in 60s and like older women then This is for you. Also Food taste so bad. I left in an hour and hope will never go back. After I went to koln. Report will follow.

Meindorfer

07-05-12, 09:01

I left in an hour and hope will never go back.1. Schieferhof is no Club for one hour.

2. Half of the girls start later.

Meindorfer

Breadman

07-05-12, 20:14

1. Schieferhof is no Club for one hour.

2. Half of the girls start later.

MeindorferThe club is only open for 12 hours. 1pm till 1am. All the girls who are working on that day are present before 3pm, I never saw a girl arrive after 3ish. What you see is what you get.

Meindorfer

07-05-12, 22:13

The club is only open for 12 hours. 1pm till 1am. All the girls who are working on that day are present before 3pm, I never saw a girl arrive after 3ish. What you see is what you get.This is definitely wrong.

Most girls starts between 15pm to 16pm.

If you leave the club before 15pm, you do not see all the girls.

Meindorfer

Tobyg

07-06-12, 08:48

The club is only open for 12 hours. 1pm till 1am. All the girls who are working on that day are present before 3pm, I never saw a girl arrive after 3ish. What you see is what you get.Not entirely true. Half is an exaggeration, but some do start later. Mascha for example often starts around 5. 6pm. I've seen others turn up later as well.

Fats

07-06-12, 17:08

The club is only open for 12 hours. 1pm till 1am. All the girls who are working on that day are present before 3pm, I never saw a girl arrive after 3ish. What you see is what you get.They are open to 1am only on Fridays. Monday through Thursaday they close at midnight. Last entry all days at 11pm.

HappyNaNanda8

07-21-12, 19:56

After 15years of mongering the search is over. As far as GFE's goes, it doesn't get any better than this. Most of the girls are ready to give it all and go all-in. Its pretty much up to you. Yes, its pricey, but we get what we pay for, thats universal.

I can only support whats already written here.

Dreams

07-22-12, 09:38

UniversoFkk

07-22-12, 10:20

. But why do you say that it is pricey?

50 E for a non rushed 30 min session with no cost for extras like DFK, CIM or cob?Maybe because he refers to the complete service (alles ohne) that, I read, costs 50 euro more.

HappyNaNanda8

07-22-12, 17:09

Maybe because he refers to the complete service (alles ohne) that, I read, costs 50 euro more.Pricing is in line with the rest. It was just me comparing with the pauschal and gangbang stuff. If you like to fuck several women, it quickly adds up.

Myrmidon

07-22-12, 17:14

. But why do you say that it is pricey?

50 E for a non rushed 30 min session with no cost for extras like DFK, CIM or cob?Bernd's is indeed good value for the money.

However, I think you will agree that with a 70€ entrance fee it is one of the higher fees, and for myself coming via rail / taxi from Frankfurt it is quite pricy if you do not book the early booking discount.

But for me, the quality service is worth it.

Myr.

Dreams

07-23-12, 09:34

Bernd's is indeed good value for the money.

However, I think you will agree that with a 70€ entrance fee it is one of the higher fees, and for myself coming via rail / taxi from Frankfurt it is quite pricy if you do not book the early booking discount.

But for me, the quality service is worth it.

Myr.The entrance fee is 5 E more than any Hesse club, so, as everyone says, the quality of service, with everything (but AO) included, justifies largely this extra 5 euros.

It is NOT an AO club, neither is it a Partytreff. So it may indeed be pricy for those who are intrerested in quantity and AO.

But for those who ususally prefer "classic" FKK, it is one of the best value for money, because all the girls provide the best level of service (if not they don't last in this club)

And yes, it is not easy to get to, unless you have a car and a SatNAv. Which I have whenenver I go to Germany.

Renting a car allows me to go to different clubs at different times of the day, and also to go back to the hotel during the day, between sessions, since Bernds can become boring if you don't speak German I (I just speak basic German) and stay there for 12 hours.

Anyway, this being a small club, it is appropriate that only few punters like it, otherwise it would be too crowded, so let it be like this.

UniversoFkk

07-23-12, 14:12

Ortos

07-23-12, 16:21

But for those who ususally prefer "classic" FKK, it is one of the best value for money, because all the girls provide the best level of service (if not they don't last in this club)

I completely agree eith whay you say.Thanks for NOT quoting the whole post you refer to, but only the relavant part. Don't you just hate when some idiot quotes a whole long post and then adds just one question, often completely irrelvant to the 99% of the long post he quoted? Look at the Oase thread and you'll see what I mean. So, I am sure many people appreciate the way you've just demonstrated the proper way to use the Quote option. Thanks again!

Breadman

07-23-12, 22:59

Anyway, this being a small club, it is appropriate that only few punters like it, otherwise it would be too crowded, so let it be like this.Has nothing to do with the size of the club, everything to do with the looks of the girls. If the place was staffed by mostly good looking younger girls, then the small club would be packed all the time. Doubt there will be any issue's with overcrowding at Bernds in the near future.

Maxime

07-24-12, 08:10

Bernds is indeed a club where good service is offered by ALL the girls. So no surprises, if you like a girl, and you have chemistry, you know it will be a good session.

There are few clubs left who share this philosophy (in GT, PHG, YY, VV, LR, etc more and more girls are lowering their service level to a bare minimum!) , but Bernds is certainly not the only one. On service level, also PSR (Residenz) , Freude 39 and Babylon are top notz (I. E, the club has clear rules of minimum service, if not offered, the girl will leave in few days).

Also in Oase the management explains these rules every few weeks to all the girls, but since many "tourists" come there, who are less critical and for example are willing to pay 50 euro extra for DFK, girls there can come away with lesser service now and then, but for loyal customers there the service level is also consistently high.

Dreams

07-24-12, 08:42

Thanks for NOT quoting the whole post you refer to, but only the relavant part. Don't you just hate when some idiot quotes a whole long post and then adds just one question, often completely irrelvant to the 99% of the long post he quoted? Look at the Oase thread and you'll see what I mean. So, I am sure many people appreciate the way you've just demonstrated the proper way to use the Quote option. Thanks again!Can't agree more.

But I am usually the worst offender, since I don't know how to extract the quote I am asnwering to. Don't know either where to look for the answer. Pl help.

Dreams

07-24-12, 08:47

Angus Magee

07-24-12, 09:29

But I am usually the worst offender, since I don't know how to extract the quote I am asnwering to. Don't know either where to look for the answer. Pl help.Pretty simple to do this. When you click the "reply with quote" link the quote appears between the code telling the forum to include in quotes the part you want to quote ([QUOTE=... ] your quoted material [/QUOTE.close square braket) Simply highlight and delete the part you do not want to appear, write your comment (outside of the the quotes) and upload the report. The only thing you do have to look for is that the quote code is intact, that you do not delete by mistake a closing bracket. That fucks it all up.

Hope this is clear.

AM

LongRange

07-24-12, 10:21

Hi, I haven't been to Berdnts for a while, does anyone know which days Katja works, I understand she is part time now, I was hoping she would be there next week.

Many thanks.

Tobyg

07-24-12, 12:54

I really am amazed that people keep complaining about the entrance fee at Bernds. It's like 5 Euro is the end of the world and the entrance is all you're going to pay. The comparison is pretty simple.

Bernds
Entrance 70
1/2 hour session 50
Going two minutes overtime 0
CIM 0
Anal (if you're looking for it) 50
AO (if you're looking for it and it's on offer) 50
Total 220

What you might pay elsewhere.
Entrance 65.
1/2 hour session 50
Going two minutes overtime 50
CIM 50
Anal (if you're looking for it) 200
AO (if you're looking for it and it's on offer) 200
Total 615

Free Dude

07-24-12, 14:48

Those numbers are (again) just taking Hessen into account. I am also not quite sure where you get the 200 for AO, but I personally don't think it should be part of the comparison (there are clubs in NRW that have cheaper AO mark ups BTW).

If you compare to NRW, Samya is 50 entry and an hour for 75. Aca is 25 entry and 40 for each half an hour. Heaven 7 is 30 each. Even if you want to account for the great service levels, you have Freude (30 entry. 50 for half an hour) and Babylon (50 each) as cheaper options. Bernds is really only a 'bargain' if you want cim in multiple sessions.

Dreams

07-24-12, 15:36

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Hope this is clear.

AMGot it! Thanks

Breadman

07-24-12, 21:21

Everything is linked. In Bernd's, girls are regular, they don't allow girls to come and go as they wish. This selection process eliminates a lot of the optifucks that you can see in bigger clubs and whose service is less than optimal. Of course, if there were even few 9-10s in Bernds, offering the service that all current bernd's girls offer, it would perhaps be crowded. But this is not the case. In addition, opening times, and geographical location limit the number of punters. And it is good. If there were lots of Palace kind girls, I, for sure, would not go there.I have to disagree. There used to be a nice selection of attractive women at Bernds when I first visited, not anymore. Most now are well below 5 with the exception of a few 7's. On my last visit I only went to the room with Mara, one of the few good lookers who's stayed on. Many women don't like to work at clubs that provide AO. You've got half the women providing it, half that say no to the service. I wondered why I was reading reports of well known bernds girls leaving to work at other clubs over the last few years, I'm betting the club allowing AO to continue was a big reason.

The question is how long can a club go on with half the girls providing AO and the other half providing normal service? Its 'either' an AO club or it isn't. Can there be a middle ground and the club survive that way? Are new girls being asked to provide AO or informed that half the girls provide the service? Eventually the new girl will find out. That's got to be a big reason for the club lacking new younger talent.

Hessen Bub

07-24-12, 21:32

At which club AO is 200€ extra? Never heard of any.

HB

HappyNaNanda8

07-24-12, 22:00

Was completely overcrowded. Only 8 girls on duty and between 20-30 punters all the time. The girls were sessioning non-stop and it could be difficult to get the girl you wanted. I could sense frustration and boredness among the punters. The sofas were just about empty all day long, as the girls stayed upstairs when they needed a break. All credit to the girls though for working hard. On duty were Katja, Mara, Angie, Jackie, Erika, Nathalie, Kim and Jenny. Katja seemed to be going through some kind of crisis, as she seemed stressed and chewing gum like crazy. The rest of the girls seemed to be in top form as always. The girls at Bernds are just great.

Dreams

07-25-12, 10:18

I have to disagree. There used to be a nice selection of attractive women at Bernds when I first visited, not anymore. Most now are well below 5 with the exception of a few 7's. On my last visit I only went to the room with Mara, one of the few good lookers who's stayed on. Many women don't like to work at clubs that provide AO. You've got half the women providing it, half that say no to the service. I wondered why I was reading reports of well known bernds girls leaving to work at other clubs over the last few years, I'm betting the club allowing AO to continue was a big reason.

The question is how long can a club go on with half the girls providing AO and the other half providing normal service? Its 'either' an AO club or it isn't. Can there be a middle ground and the club survive that way? Are new girls being asked to provide AO or informed that half the girls provide the service? Eventually the new girl will find out. That's got to be a big reason for the club lacking new younger talent.I have answered you already on the lounge and chat thread.

Very sorry that you feed rumours, that Bernds is an AO club. I have had AO offered to me in ALL clubs, including Palace andOase, and actually not in Bernds. Does not say it does not happen, but the fact that AO is odiscreetly offered by some girls does not make a club an AO club.

Your speculation about themmangement oushng for Ao are totally out of place and damaging to the club reputation. What are your sources et dtata or worst, what are your motives?

Hessen Bub

07-25-12, 12:21

Actually Schieferhof IS known as a location with a significant number of girls (or rather women) do offer BBFS. It's not openly spoken about, Schieferhof is not officially an AO-club, but it is a fact that for 50€ this is an extra available with some girls.

BBFS happens at all clubs, but that's another story.

HB

Breadman

07-26-12, 19:07

The whole point is that people like you are tarnishing the reputation of this club without the beginning of a proof.
Actually Schieferhof IS known as a location with a significant number of girls (or rather women) do offer BBFS. It's not openly spoken about, Schieferhof is not officially an AO-club, but it is a fact that for 50€ this is an extra available with some girls.

BBFS happens at all clubs, but that's another story.

HB Its been well talked about on the German forums for years, do you want me to pull up all the comments that are there and translate them for you? I'm saying I know AO was given, HB confirms that Bernds is known for a significant number of their providors offering this service. What more proof do you need? My point is that the club is being hurt by this reputation, not by my posting, but by them allowing AO to continue for years.

Girls that practice AO increase their risks significantly which in turn increase the risk to the hobbiests who see them.

Dreams

07-26-12, 22:39

What more proof do you need?

Girls that practice AO increase their risks significantly which in turn increase the risk to the hobbiests who see them.You only report what other tell you, . Please give us YOUR OWN expereince.

This is only your opinion, not a fact.

Risk taking is a personal matter, Each individual, conscioulsy or not, will assess 3 things when facing a decision about taking a risk: 1) What willl I miss if I don't take the risk? 2) what are the chances of this risk to happen? 3) what are the consequences if this risk actaually happen.

Personally, I know that BBBJ has risks, but I like it too much to forget about it. Same apply to AO. My view is that AIDS is not anymore a risk, but common STDs are. The risk of catching them in practising AO are real, although not very likely. Since they they are in 99% of the cases easily treateble, my own judgment will be based on how much I enjoy it, and if the answer is, in some case, a lot, I'll go for it. But of course, you may disagree, and act accordingly. But no need to make definitive judgment as if they should apply to all.

Last, if you don't want to go with a girl who has practiced AO, not only you should avoid Bernds but also palce, Oase et many others. This is not because I have been TOLD, this MY OWN experience.

Dreams

07-26-12, 22:41

Arctic

07-26-12, 23:28

You only report what other tell you, . Please give us YOUR OWN expereince.

Last, if you don't want to go with a girl who has practiced AO, not only you should avoid Bernds but also palce, Oase et many others. This is not because I have been TOLD, this MY OWN experience.Even if the girl hasn't barebacked a customer. She's certainly barebacked a boyfriend. Or a husband. And there's no telling who they've barebacked so fucking a girl who hasn't barebacked someone is pretty unavoidable.

Dreams

07-27-12, 09:51

Even if the girl hasn't barebacked a customer. She's certainly barebacked a boyfriend. Or a husband. And there's no telling who they've barebacked so fucking a girl who hasn't barebacked someone is pretty unavoidable.Quite obvoius!

Actally one of my fav at bernds, who I have NOT barebacked, is a local married girl. Coms to B every day for work, like other go to their office, and so since a few years. Never crossed my mind that it was "risky" to go with her because she is fucking BB with her husband. Now, when you think of it, we do not know what her husband is up to, perhaps he BBs other girls. Well, there is no "no risk" behavior, except, perhaps, wamking in front of a screen. And that is only if you regularly wash your hands.

Maxime

07-27-12, 11:58

In MY OWN experience, indeed lot of the Schieferhof girls have AO in their service offering, and it is clearly at a "fixed price" of +50 euro. In other FKKs I also encounter AO girls sometimes, but is more rare, and not against a standard price (sometimes it is for free, sometimes +50 sometimes +100, etc).

I meet some of the former Schieferhof girls in other clubs, and they also say that this is "common behaviour" in Schieferhof, but not all girls practice it.

Back OT: the girls in Schieferhof ALL offer a very good service level, like in Freude, Babylon and Residenz, but optically the quality has decreased the last few years.

Of course we wait for the review of Free Dude here on the forum and how he experienced it! .

Kiwi 69

08-12-12, 16:46

In my opinion (confirmed by several girls I've seen) , if one is offered or engages in bareback in a club that is not officially a BB club, it's not good form to post on any internet forum, as with many girls, BB is a discretionary offering. It can cause problems for girls in some clubs, both with management and other girls, not to mention some neanderthal who goes to the room with a girl (who would rather not fuck said neanderthal at all) and demands BB " Ich habe I'm Internet gelesen, dass Sie ohne Kondom ficken."

AO is not to be " abused ".

Yakob

08-14-12, 00:59

In MY OWN experience, indeed lot of the Schieferhof girls have AO in their service offering, and it is clearly at a "fixed price" of +50 euro.I expect that AO service is a fixed price since at Schieferhof you pay for your sessions when you leave and the Thekefrau at times presides over payment as its recorded in the house's books so you have to mark that AO extra down to something.

Excess

08-14-12, 09:37

I expect that AO service is a fixed price since at Schieferhof you pay for your sessions when you leave and the Thekefrau at times presides over payment as its recorded in the house's books so you have to mark that AO extra down to something.Reiterate Kiwi 69`s suggestion that AO discussion has been fully done and time to move on for reasons of girl, locale and legal sensitivity. The point has been made and would be a severe shame to see any possible service withdrawn due to over publicity. While it has been too long since I doned my Schifferhof towel for a relaxing day, one could point to the locked "post boxes" on the wall near the entry door provided for the ladies and identified as such. One has observed from time to time crisp € 50 notes being deposited into them by certain gentlemen during the course of the Hof festivities. `Nuff said.

E.

Woodypussy1967

08-14-12, 20:55

Are there any girls' photos available in any other site? There are not many photos in their website.

Boomer10

08-15-12, 03:45

Are there any girls' photos available in any other site? There are not many photos in their website.The following link has some pictures that where taken about two years ago.

http://freiercafe.com/forumdisplay.php?f=110

The links for Mara, Dana, Jenny, Alina, Angie, and Erika have pictures.

London Traveller

08-16-12, 10:00

Back OT: the girls in Schieferhof ALL offer a very good service level, like in Freude, Babylon and Residenz, but optically the quality has decreased the last few years.Well this definitely is not true for all girls. I went to this place once (see below) and went to the room with Magda. She rushed the service, no kissing. Pretty much like a poor girl at any other club.

Saucehollandaise

08-22-12, 22:57

And yes, it is not easy to get to, unless you have a car and a SatNAv. Which I have whenenver I go to Germany.Sheesh, can't you guys read maps anymore?

I read a few warnings about whicht turn left, looked the place up on google maps, made a note of the direction to take on the Autobahn and tried to memorize from then on. It worked flawlessly.

Except that I forgot to memorize the number of the house but I recognized the building for the site.

As to certain actions, none ever mentioned to me and I am quite relieved to notice that my favourite (the one who actually makes me feel like I am the only reason she works there, just waiting for me) woman is not mentioned in the lists that float around. Another one is mentioned but as she prefers (at least with me, never did it anywhere else) the more or less public place I do have some doubts about that.

Woodypussy1967

08-27-12, 19:55

Mind Snatcher

09-01-12, 22:37

”… some neanderthal who goes to the room with a girl … and demands BB " Ich habe I'm Internet gelesen, dass Sie ohne Kondom ficken."I'm interested to note that ladies who dispense with condoms are now to be addressed as 'Sie'. What puzzles me is the suggestion that, given their renowned lack of good breeding, Neanderthals are capable of distinguishing between the familiar and polite forms in German.

Tobyg

09-02-12, 18:14

I've had a request from a couple of ladies there not to write about a certain topic as it's causing them some grief. Perhaps we could all honour that request.

Breadman

09-02-12, 19:18

I've had a request from a couple of ladies there not to write about a certain topic as it's causing them some grief. Perhaps we could all honour that request.Isn't it also important to inform hobbiests as well? Are the risks not greater if a good majority of the staff at a club offers AO?

Rob Raunch

09-04-12, 15:28

Isn't it also important to inform hobbiests as well? Are the risks not greater if a good majority of the staff at a club offers AO?It is being over-exagerated. In every Club there are SOME Women that offer AO to SOME men (most of them have known them for a long time). NOW al of a sudden someone writes "a good majority" and it will not be very long until someone else writes "even the women behind the bar offer AO"!

And all because of a message posted some time ago (which was deleted on several Fora because of its inaccuracy and the poster was banned) which was quoted here once again recently.

Yes, it could very well be causing any Club-lady grief. When a girld does NOT offer AO but somehow someone on a forum like this puts her name on the list: A) her familymembers (husband, boyfriend) could read it and say "WHAT, you do AO? It said so on the internet!" and she would have to defend herself B) there are guests that will say "you do AO, I read it on the internet, why don't you do it with me?"

Keep in mind that everyone with a computer and two braincells can write anything he / she wants on the internet about nearly anyone.

The women in this profession have no ways to defend themselfs they are not allowed to write on Fora like this.

I myself go to Bernds because of the familiar atmosphere, the service the women provide is in sharp contrast to service in many other clubs. The second reason is that I do not know any Club which takes the Health of the women as serious as Bernds (I was there last Thursday and met the Doc who checks them, a nice guy with a moustache. We had a chat at the bar after he checked all the girls. They are checked every 3 weeks.)

I have been at this Club since 2005 very regularly (every two to three weeks) and not ONE lady offered me AO (and I did not ask for it also). I have myself checked regularly (once every three months) and look after my own health.

Let us keep this hobby of ours safe and healthy for ALL!

Have Fun!

Tobyg

09-04-12, 18:28

Breadman

09-04-12, 23:06

It is being over-exagerated. In every Club there are SOME Women that offer AO to SOME men (most of them have known them for a long time). NOW al of a sudden someone writes "a good majority" and it will not be very long until someone else writes "even the women behind the bar offer AO"!I'm just reporting on what I saw and heard from a newbie to the club, every girl he did was AO. Had nothing to do with him being a regular, I was standing right next to him when he paid and I heard every one of his stories after he got out of the room. Your more than welcome to weave your own tales to make the AO reporting go away, but I'll stand by my information. Others here have come forward and said the same thing, AO is readily available at this club. I'm actually amazed that all these regulars of Bernds are reporting never to have been offered AO from any of the girls.

Boomer10

09-05-12, 04:55

I'm just reporting on what I saw and heard from a newbie to the club, every girl he did was AO. Had nothing to do with him being a regular, I was standing right next to him when he paid and I heard every one of his stories after he got out of the room. Your more than welcome to weave your own tales to make the AO reporting go away, but I'll stand by my information. Others here have come forward and said the same thing, AO is readily available at this club. I'm actually amazed that all these regulars of Bernds are reporting never to have been offered AO from any of the girls.Just to clarify things in my mind, are saying you have second hand knowledge from someone you don't personally know (the newbie)? Sounds good to me, no reason to doubt that line of thought.

I was talking with one of the girls about my first visit. She has pretty detailed memories of it, as I do. The funny thing was the details were completely different.

Stand by to be further amazed, I've been visiting Bernd's for about 7 years and I've never asked about AO and it's never been offered. I'd be surprised if it's not offered and accepted at sometime but I have no first hand knowledge. And for the most part, I don't care. I'm reminded of a line from War Games. Joshua says,"the only winning move is not to play". You want to be completely safe, don't play. Everyone needs to set their limits / level of comfort and not go beyond them (and avoid any girl who forces AO on you).

Yakob

09-06-12, 02:52

I made a pilgramage to Bernds during the recent Rabatt deal. I arrived, paid the 50€ to Conny then I just sat around the lounge with drink taking in the line up. There was Babsi, Mara, Erica when I was first in the lounge. There were a few others but I did not know them well. Sandy was sadly missing. I like fucking Sandy. She is so naughty.

Then I saw a vision walk by. Young, slim, petite, A cup breasts, long black hair, bright blue eyes, high cheek bones and a pretty smile. Totally naked except for her bright red shoes. I am stunned by a stunner in Bernds. A guy books the girl and she is gone. I am crestfallen. I go downstairs and make a tour of what is happening with the downstairs girls.

I then had some food in the dining room and felt sated.

It was a lovely day and so there was time spent in the garden taking in the sun with a cool drink. I chatted to some tourists and gave them some tips of other clubs in the area that they could go to besides Bernds. It was their first time at Bernds. It is not what they expected. A few of the girls come out into the garden.

Then the vision comes out into the garden for a cigarette. She is a young petite beauty. I make eye contact. Her charming smile melts my heart. Her blue eyes shrouded by long straight black hair are tantalising. She invites me to come sit with her at the table next to the barbeque. Her name is Valentina and she used to work in London as an escort. She has been 3 weeks in Bernds and is liking it. She does not like the big fuck factory clubs. Erica is her friend. I practise my knowledge of her home tongue on her. She thinks it is cute.

I book Valentina for the room and she goes gets a key. We head upstairs and spend "3 rooms" together. I love what this girl does. DFK, BBBJ, BLS, handjob more than blowjob as sucks tip mainly, allows body to body rubbing, DATY, Pussy and anal touching. Some sex. COB finish. Valentina asks if I would like to take two girls with her friend Erica.

I take a break and sit in the sun again. I realise that Bernds is under a flight path as I play a game of naming the airlines of the planes that fly over the garden. The small garden is a focus point with girls and men sunbathing and relaxing.

The barbeque is lit and girls and customers gather around to break bread together. There is sausages, pork steaks and pork slices with salads. The sun goes down.

I see a large man take Valentina to the room and it feels kinky such a pretty innocent looking girl doing such a man.

Later, I am sitting in the lounge. I see Erica and Valentina sitting together. I go sit down in between them and mind my own business. Well, to be honest, I was not really. I could not keep my eyes off Valentina. I then decide to do a duo with Erica and Valentina since my friend say Erica is good. I tell Erica this and Erica kisses me with tongues, then she just opens my towel and gives me a blowjob on the couch. Valentina takes over kissing duties. Valentina then gets up to go find a room while Erica cannot stop sucking my cock. I have to push Erica off my cock so we can move to the room to join Valentina.

We go to the room and then it is wild. I sweat with all the physical activity. I get kissed, body licked, perform DATY on them both, double girl blowjob, blowjob by one as the other sits on my face or kisses me and then they swap positions, more double girl blowjob. Then we fuck. I fuck Erica first doing her in three positions and then change straight for Valentina for 3 positions. I take a break. Get more blowjob and then perform COB finish on Valentina. Remainder of time is chatting, massage and mutual touching. 2 rooms each.

After my shower, I take a break again for like a few minutes.

In the lounge I find myself sitting with Valentina again. I fiddle with her and next thing I know we are going to the room again. More fun. COB finish. 1 room charge.

It is late and Bernds is going to close soon. So I say my farewells but Valentina is in the room when I go so no good bye kiss from her. Into the night.

In the car, my friend teases me that we go back to Bernds the next day. I say another time.

I miss Sandy too.

Breadman

09-06-12, 04:50

Just to clarify things in my mind, are saying you have second hand knowledge from someone you don't personally know (the newbie)? Sounds good to me, no reason to doubt that line of thought.

You want to be completely safe, don't play. Everyone needs to set their limits / level of comfort and not go beyond them (and avoid any girl who forces AO on you).The term 'newbie' was being applied to the guys first visit to the club, not his experience in Germany. No, he's well known by myself and others here. Again, I'll stand by what I know AO is readily available at Bernds by a large percentage of the women who work there.

Actually Schieferhof IS known as a location with a significant number of girls (or rather women) do offer BBFS. It's not openly spoken about, Schieferhof is not officially an AO-club, but it is a fact that for 50€ this is an extra available with some girls.

BBFS happens at all clubs, but that's another story.

HB

Rob Raunch

09-06-12, 06:26

then i saw a vision walk by. young, slim, petite, a cup breasts, long black hair, bright blue eyes, high cheek bones and a pretty smile. totally naked except for her bright red shoes. i am stunned by a stunner in bernds.they have put up pictures of valentina in their picture-gallery, this girl is not shy. i believe it is not allowed to post a link right here so go their website, select "news", on the next page second line it says "fotos! : valentina, erica. und viel mehr" click on the [link]. you can click on a picture to enlarge ist.

last time i heard something (very distant, through the grapevines) of sandy she was working in a champagne-bar in cologne called saphir. i am rooting she will return like magda did.

have fun!

Dreams

09-06-12, 08:53

Just to clarify things in my mind, are saying you have second hand knowledge from someone you don't personally know (the newbie)? Sounds good to me, no reason to doubt that line of thought.

I was talking with one of the girls about my first visit. She has pretty detailed memories of it, as I do. The funny thing was the details were completely different.

Stand by to be further amazed, I've been visiting Bernd's for about 7 years and I've never asked about AO and it's never been offered. I'd be surprised if it's not offered and accepted at sometime but I have no first hand knowledge. And for the most part, I don't care. I'm reminded of a line from War Games. Joshua says,"the only winning move is not to play". You want to be completely safe, don't play. Everyone needs to set their limits / level of comfort and not go beyond them (and avoid any girl who forces AO on you).Totally agree with you, and my experience is similar, never been offered, nor asked for AO. But as you said, I am sure it can be had, at Bernds as much as elsewhere. Just plain info from a real punter, not second hand rumours.

We already had exactly the same debate here a few weeks back. Can't we close it now and move back to reports about girls, service, or even food (!)? We now everyone's position, and each member can now make his own judgment and believe who and what he wants to believe.

Yakob

09-06-12, 20:06

last time i heard something (very distant, through the grapevines) of sandy she was working in a champagne-bar in cologne called saphir. i am rooting she will return like magda did.

have fun!it okay. last time i speak to her she was working in the windows in groningen in the north of the netherlands. now she return to germany to koln. maybe she come back to bernds. she is wild in bed and make me do things i would not normally do. one time i spend 4 hours (8 rooms) with her in the room. she would not let me leave alive!!

Neurosynth

09-07-12, 01:03

Boomer10

09-07-12, 05:57

The one time (within the last year) I visited I didn't pursue AO but I did have an experience that led me to believe it was as common as it is rumored to be. I was in the middle of a very vigorous fuck when suddenly things felt even much better. After a number of strokes I realized the condom had broke! I pulled out and apologized. Most working girls will freak out when this happens. But this girl just kind of shrugged and said "that's ok. Don't worry about it." She then took off the broken condom, but on a new one, and we went back at it. That said to me that she probably goes AO with regularity.Why does her reaction lead to your conclusion? What evidence do you have to make the statement,"Most working girls will freak out when this happens."?

Consider this:

Condoms break on a regular basis (I've seen reports as many as 1 in 250). If that rate is true, suppose the working girl you were with sees 5 clients a day / 5 days a week. She could / should expect a condom to break about every 10 weeks. If the she sees 10 clients a day, the breakage rate would be about 1 every 5 weeks. If the girl has been working a number of years, as many of the girls at Bernd's have, a condom breaking wouldn't necessarily be an event to "freak out" over. I suspect it's just a risk she accepts for being in the business.

There's a theory in social science that proposes the idea that each individual believes he is normal and his beliefs are shared by the vast majority of the population. That's why liberals democrats and conservative republicans believe that other side is so far out on the fringe. The truth is neither is close to the center but neither is as close to the wacko fringe as the other believes. In this case, I suspect you were projecting your "normal" response on the girl without considering her "normal".

The girl you were with may go AO with every second guy that walks through the door, I don't know that and neither do you. I just don't think your conclusion is the mostly likely one considering the description of the event.

Dreams

09-07-12, 08:03

Why does her reaction lead to your conclusion? What evidence do you have to make the statement,"Most working girls will freak out when this happens."?

Consider this:

Condoms break on a regular basis (I've seen reports as many as 1 in 250). If that rate is true, suppose the working girl you were with sees 5 clients a day / 5 days a week. She could / should expect a condom to break about every 10 weeks. If the she sees 10 clients a day, the breakage rate would be about 1 every 5 weeks. If the girl has been working a number of years, as many of the girls at Bernd's have, a condom breaking wouldn't necessarily be an event to "freak out" over. I suspect it's just a risk she accepts for being in the business.

There's a theory in social science that proposes the idea that each individual believes he is normal and his beliefs are shared by the vast majority of the population. That's why liberals democrats and conservative republicans believe that other side is so far out on the fringe. The truth is neither is close to the center but neither is as close to the wacko fringe as the other believes. In this case, I suspect you were projecting your "normal" response on the girl without considering her "normal".

The girl you were with may go AO with every second guy that walks through the door, I don't know that and neither do you. I just don't think your conclusion is the mostly likely one considering the description of the event.I have had broken condoms twice in my long mongering life. I did not experience any freaking out of any of the girls. I guess it depends on the plae, girl, man etc.

When any event happens, politicians can use it as an argument in favor of their theories. That is what has happened in that helpless discussion about AO in Bernds.

Let us not play politics and stick to factual reports and let memebers draw their own conclusions.

Neurosynth

09-07-12, 19:49

Well yes, my report is purely anecdotal and just barely a single data point. In my personal experience broken condoms result in something other than a completely uncaring neutral response. Put another way, in my experience if a woman simply doesn't care at all that a condom broke, then it's more likely she doesn't care all that much whether you use one in the first place. That is my only personal experience with Bernd's in this regard. However, based on info from others here and elsewhere I believe AO is more common at Bernd's than other FKK's. This is certainly what German language sites report where reporting on such things is allowed.

Hessen Bub

09-07-12, 21:07

Let's just say that AO (BBFS) is easier to get at Bernd's than at other FKK clubs. And get back to topic. If you don't want to fuck without condom, don't do it.

HB

Phiphi

09-09-12, 14:22

All guys and ladies who read this!

First off all, its fantastic to fuck without condom, so why should we condemm other if they do that, inclusive the girls of bernds.

BUT: what I read here a lot and also on freircafe and on ijsberenforum (the dutch version) , that people know aht other do if they are not in the room? Strange to get conclusions out of that.

Second: how nice that an individual experience by bernds was a fuck in the ass or pussy without condom,

Third: I think its pretty nasty and rude to use the following premieses as 'the truth ' for all the girls of Bernds' My friend told me that he fucked with all girls in bernds and they do it without, so from thats premises it follows so many girls in Bernds fuck without condom if you pay 50 extra!

Four: The premisse that is true : every three weeks a medical research on disease is taken place in Bernds, so from that premisse its follows that the girls in Bernds protect themselves very well against sexual diseases likes hiv, chlamidya, gonnoroe, syfflis, hepatitus be, because the docter will find very fast the disease and will give medical treatment for that.

Five: if one of the girls has a disease like hiv then the medical treatment will start very soon, and proabably she will stop working. Its very confrontating the have sex if you that you have hiv. Besides that if the girl in theory wil continue with sexwork and the docter give medical treatment, tha chance that you will get hiv if the girl is fucking without is very little, , almost zero, because the medical treatment helps to get the viral load in the blood down very fast.

Six: so whatver happens, with or without condom, the regualr tests in Bernds gives me a very safe feeling, because if you are there on a Wednesday for example and the girls are waiting for the guy you know he is a docter, then I fuck with a condom and with a very good feeling she may take my seed in her mouth. I do not have that feeling with other clubss, why? Some clubs you feel the air of criminals' and that never is a sign of being very honest, and I know that is also a false premises, because criminals can also fuck with condom and lead a business in which they ask the girls to show a test before they start to work. But in Bernds I have the feeling that a woman is leading the business and the woman is not a criminal. That feels more safe for me, sorry for the bad guys who read this and trying hard to be honest again after doing some criminal acts. But that how it works we are with prejedices.

But. The responsabilty for diseases you can get by fucking and als sucking are not away if the condom breaks for example.

My responsabily is: fucking in a club with a condom in a club.

I Wonder if there are clubs in germany were you have such a regular tests? Mayne thats interesting to find out and writing it here on this sexguide,

I have seen once girls in acapulco waiting for the docter, I know its happens lso in fun garden in emmerich and in fkk van goch in goch. Because a docter it traveling there form one club to another. Maybe somebody knows what is haepping in other clubs,

So have fun guys and take care of your own dick. Its hard to get rid of hiv, only if you die the hiv is dying too!

Angus Magee

09-09-12, 19:41

So have fun guys and take care of your own dick. Its hard to get rid of hiv, only if you die the hiv is dying too!Great.

But this is the Bernds thread and so this post is totally off topic and inappropriate to be posted here. Will be reporting it in the hopes of having it removed. If you have to school us all on the world AIDS conspiracy, in future please do so in the "Truth about AIDS" thread where I am sure we will find it all very interesting.

So please here, just let it go and report on Bernds, nothing else.

AM

Bukudala

09-12-12, 09:01

Boomer10

09-12-12, 12:41

Marwar58

09-13-12, 14:13

My German speaking ability is still miserable, though not for lack of trying. Now I know Babsi, and Valentina's (spoke to her yesterday) English is excellent. Who else is in the Bernd's lineup is English-capable? Particularly interested in Magda and Sandy, assuming the latter returns to the Hof.

It's been a really long three years so I'm looking forward to plowing as much of the field as possible later next month.

Naturally, will tell all when I return.

If anyone can figure out how to set up an FKK paradise here in the US, you won't need to play the lottery, ever.English Grades at Bernd's.

A (fluent, no restrictions) : Babsi, Mara, Valentina, Katja, Angie.

B (passable, some vocabulary limits) : Susan, Magda, Erika, Tina, Sandy, Dana.

C (limited) : Ana, Natalia (if still there)

F (no effort) : Leonie.

Unknown: Jenny, there's one other new girl I didn't meet, and another late 30's or 40's year old with extensive tattoos.

These grades do not reflect the room experience-all give good service. Magda was gone to another club for a while but as of my visit last week is back.

Tobyg

09-14-12, 08:16

English Grades at Bernd's.

A (fluent, no restrictions) : Babsi, Mara, Valentina, Katja, Angie.

B (passable, some vocabulary limits) : Susan, Magda, Erika, Tina, Sandy, Dana.

C (limited) : Ana, Natalia (if still there)

F (no effort) : Leonie.

Unknown: Jenny, there's one other new girl I didn't meet, and another late 30's or 40's year old with extensive tattoos.

These grades do not reflect the room experience-all give good service. Magda was gone to another club for a while but as of my visit last week is back.The one with the tattoos is Jacky who speaks good English.

The other new girl would be Kim, young blonde with glasses. She speaks almost no English.

Angus Magee

09-14-12, 10:51

F (no effort) : Leonie.If it is the same Leonie (tallish Brazilian) She spoke very good English when I was with her at Oase. On the other hand I also don't remember having much time to chat as she was a prolific kisser.

AM

Bukudala

09-16-12, 16:13

Thought it would be fun to take one of the lady's for an overnight spin. Would meeting outside the Hof be in poor taste / bad manners or frowned upon, etc?

Judging by Connie's comments by phone, I don't think Sandy's going to return. It's a pity, because judging by earlier reports she's not only sexy, but quite a bit of fun. An earlier post suggest she's returned to Koln from working in Groningen. Any more news?

Finally, thanks all for the English skills test for the ladies. It certainly helps, but as AM commented, especially with Leonie, it's not always necessary.

Tobyg

09-16-12, 20:52

Thought it would be fun to take one of the lady's for an overnight spin. Would meeting outside the Hof be in poor taste / bad manners or frowned upon, etc?I think this is a no-no. I remember reading a post somewhere that that said one of the girls got fired for spending the night with a customer at Reuter's.

Marine One

09-28-12, 01:44

I hate to ask a stupid question, but do you wear robes or towels at Bernd's? Yes I have RTFF and also the website, but did not see this anywhere.

Thanks brothers

Free Dude

09-28-12, 10:33

Dreams

09-28-12, 14:32

Only towels, and pretty small ones at that. Nothing personal, but 'all' these people feeling squamish about being nude in public should really look for an other scene. The only use these have is to keep you warm (also helps to get girls who might want to use you to warm up) and to hide any boner you don't really wish to act on.Another important role of towels: hygiene! I don't think it would be fun to sit on sofas on which hundreds of assholes and the rest had been rubbed on for days and nights long.

TommySued

09-28-12, 20:04

Someone asked if CIA means cum inside ass? It does. I = in = inside.

I can add Valentina to the list.

Funny to read all this disussion between the "non-AO-at-Bernds-believers" and those who know better.

My list is not a fake, I did and still do fuck AO at Bernds.

On my latest visits: Sandra, Mara, Valentina, Erika, Babsi, Jenny, Dana, Natali, Steffi / Jaqueline.

Marine One

09-29-12, 00:42

Thanks for the info guys. I don't mind the nudity, but I like to use the pockets in the bathrobes for various things. Plus in the Fall if you go in and out of the club it is easier to manage cold breezes. I have asthma and sometimes don't like to be in the smoky club all night.

Happy hunting dudes!

Mainlander

09-29-12, 01:19

After spending an entire evening at FKK Oase a couple days ago. I visited Bernds today. I've been there several times in the past and always liked the intimate nature of the club. One thing I'd like to see them change is their towels: they could use larger ones for those of us with larger girth to wrap around; and then larger ones again for drying off (those towels are about the size of hand towels). Other than that, had a great time and liked their use of a large sheet each time for the beds rather than spreading out towels.

Bernds was fairly busy when I arrived and there were still lots of girls available: a mix of Polish, Romanian, german, dutch and other nationalities. I ended up sitting next to Kim, a young fair haired woman in early twenties who said she was german. After making out a bit on the couch, we headed to the room and I had a great time with lots of kissing, BJ and multiple positions. An opening came up for massage so I quickly grabbed it, which was great. I went back downstairs afterwards and sat next to a very attractive, dark haired Romanian girl named Tina. Although she appeared a little reserved in the public living room area, she warmed up tremendously once we got to the room. I had one of the all time best experiences I have had in an FKK. Started with lots of dfk followed by BJ, several positions and then back to BJ. She tried very hard to get me to cim and I think would have gone on enthusiastically forever but I finally took sympathy and called it quits. I was very tired and it was too soon after Kim. Anyways, I hung around for awhile longer just enjoying the atmosphere. Didn't see as much public sex as I've seen before, although downstairs I saw some guy getting a BJ with the girl squatting over him in a way to ensure everyone in the room got a good view of her pussy. If you're into voyeurism, it was great. As was watching a girl doing multiple positions and posing from time to time in the room downstairs behind the glass window.

One more thing that I keep forgetting about Bernds. Unlike Oase and World, where the girls seem to look at you like prey and somewhat aggressively approach you, Bernds is a pleasant surprise: the ladies don't approach the guys but wait for the guys to approach them. If you're shy and bashful, you're probably better off at one of the vulture clubs (I discovered the easiest brush off is to simply tell them "I just came from a room with another girl and need time to recover" (works every time for me!). But if you don't mind approaching the girls, Bernds is great.

Almost forgot: it was dessous day. Many of the girls were in very revealing flight attendant type costumes, and they had oxygen masks hanging from the ceiling with which they played from time to time. But as the evening wore on, the costumes weren't always put back on right away. Too bad it's closed weekends or I'd go back this weekend.

Neurosynth

11-09-12, 07:39

Bernds notes in their newsletter there are a couple new girls on board including (my favorite) a redhead! Has anyone had the pleasure of seeing her yet? Any first impressions?

Boomer10

11-09-12, 14:20

Bernds notes in their newsletter there are a couple new girls on board including (my favorite) a redhead! Has anyone had the pleasure of seeing her yet? Any first impressions?I saw Sofia (no room visit) on her first day at Bernds (I think it was on Tuesday 30 Oct). I would describe her as very cute and very "girl next door".

Sebastiane

11-11-12, 02:35

Great report on Valentina, Yakob! Made me horny just reading it! I really need to visit Bernds at least once-the main thing stopping me was the reports which say that there are not the large number of 9s / 10s. I. E. Young optificks. Which I like. Compared to the other clubs but the girls on the website look amazing and reports like yours encourage me! It is also not open on weekends and during the week I work so. Will have to wait a bit for holidays.

Thanks for the report.

Yakob

11-11-12, 11:02

Neurosynth

11-13-12, 17:15

I saw Sofia (no room visit) on her first day at Bernds (I think it was on Tuesday 30 Oct). I would describe her as very cute and very "girl next door".Thanks! Wonder what she's like in the room. I'll probably find out in a few weeks!

Zuluo3

11-27-12, 05:03

One more thing that I keep forgetting about Bernds. Unlike Oase and World, where the girls seem to look at you like prey and somewhat aggressively approach you, Bernds is a pleasant surprise: the ladies don't approach the guys but wait for the guys to approach them. If you're shy and bashful, you're probably better off at one of the vulture clubs (I discovered the easiest brush off is to simply tell them "I just came from a room with another girl and need time to recover" (works every time for me!). But if you don't mind approaching the girls, Bernds is great.Yes. I agree about feeling like prey at World. Do you know any other clubs like Bernds where you don't feel that way?

Kimino

11-27-12, 11:35

Yes. I agree about feeling like prey at World. Do you know any other clubs like Bernds where you don't feel that way?Colosseum in Augsburg, among the ones that I visited. Got nothing to do with Bernds, it's a normal FKK, but girls are not allowed to approach you. At least that's how it worked some 4 years ago.

Kimino

Indi Companion

11-27-12, 12:03

Yes. I agree about feeling like prey at World. Do you know any other clubs like Bernds where you don't feel that way?Go to Acapulco or Golden Tme, no approach policy there. You will be harrased by the girls there, generally speaking.

Gooroox

11-27-12, 20:30

Yes. I agree about feeling like prey at World. Do you know any other clubs like Bernds where you don't feel that way?Freude39 in Bochum also has a non-approach policy and the level of service is usually quite high.

Yakob

11-28-12, 01:47

Yes. I agree about feeling like prey at World. Do you know any other clubs like Bernds where you don't feel that way?Samya has a no approach policy too. You have to ask the girls if you want to poke them with your third leg.

Eeyore

11-28-12, 22:49

I showed up around 10:15 on a Tuesday night and at that point most of the girls had gone home. Bernds was down to about 4 girls working. Valentina who seems sweet, but just isn't my type, another Romanian with a big tramp stamp whose name I didn't quite catch, a Brazilian named Leonie and a Polish girl named Natalie. Valentina showed me the locker and her English was reasonably good. The other women's English was poor to non-existant. I went downstairs and Natalie and Leonie were taking turns sucking off a portly gentleman. I ordered a drink and went back upstairs. I sat between the two Romanians and talked with them, but the chemistry just wasn't there. I went downstairs and sat in the sauna. It became increasingly clear that there would be fewer choices rather than more as the evening wore on. I needed to make a move.

After letting Natalie and Leonie relax for a little bit, I sat down between them. Natalie seemed receptive, if a little worn out. Leonie was not in a very good mood and I stopped paying attention to her issues. Her English was every bit as bad as was reported earlier. I tried my limited Portuguese but she was not at all patient or understanding. While Natalie's English was very limited, we communicated with my broken German and pantomime. After we agreed to start, Natalie and I started to kiss on the couch and then started making out. I went down on her until she came. Then we went over to the swing and first I sat down. She sucked on me while I swung back and forth.

Then I got up out of the swing and bent her over it. We went at it for a while, me behind her, and I became vaguely aware of an audience gathering behind us. Then I got her to sit in the swing with her legs parallel to the chains. We put on a new condom and started at it again. She had at least another orgasm, with muscle spasms that were definitely involuntary. We went back to the couch and slowly started cowgirl, then on her side, then doggie. I got her off for at least a third orgasm.

After a while of going at it doggie style, she abruptly said 'fertig', got out from under me and pushed me away. Time was up. She was done. At first I tried to piece together the words in German that I hadn't gotten off yet and it would be nice if I had an orgasm as well, but I couldn't express to her what she needed to do to get me off. Then I noticed that the voyeurs in the club were having a good chuckle. So I smiled, took it in stride. Natalie gave me a towel, and I went to the shower.

I was even more horny when I left than when I got there. Not a good thing, but I was also about to miss the last train from Hennef. I had them call me a cab, paid up and left. The woman at the front desk was not the least bit concerned whether I was a satisfied or dissatisfied customer, and I saw no point pushing my luck with the language barrier that night. When I finally got back to my hotel, I hardly got any sleep. And really, an important reason that I hobby is the way it relieves my stress and tension so I can sleep in a way nothing else lets me.

Don't get me wrong. Without Bernds, the FKK scene wouldn't be the same and might not even exist. However, in my experience it seems pretty hit-or-miss. I know they have a lot of satisfied customers and they can't please everyone. They've done a lot of good, but I've really only had one good experience there-one of the best I've had in my life, in fact. However, every other time it has been unsatisfying, disappointing, even frustrating. They have their locals and regulars, it is off the beaten path and as other FKKs have risen and fallen, they have remained steady. They don't seem all that interested in the tourist trade, which keeps its charm. However, after this most recent experience, I will not go out of my way to visit again.

Dev Null

11-29-12, 19:10

Now this is odd. What an exceptional strang behaviour from Nathalie's side.

Honestly I have no explanation as to why she behaved like that. Bernd's is famous for not terminating action after exactly 1800 sec.

Neurosynth

11-30-12, 02:00

Eeyore,

What an awful story! Sorry about that! I've only been to Bernd's once and it was pretty great. Of course I got there much earlier, more like late afternoon. I'm wondering if your one good visit was significantly earlier than the others. In my experience the girls who leave the earliest are typically the better ones who make good money and don't feel as if they have to stay to make their rent.

Tobyg

11-30-12, 08:58

Indi Companion

11-30-12, 11:58

Getting to Bernds at 10:15 is generally going to be a waste of time and money. By this time a lot of the girls have left and those that are there will tend to be busy with whichever customers are winding up their days fun.Yes, particularly over the week at around 10pm most of the girls, particularly some of the best like Mara, Magda, Anna, Susi, etc have already left or are by far too tired to be interested in one more customer, as Leonie clearly showed.

Bernds is a club where to go during the day, only Friday and Saturday, if some alcool flew, you can still find something good after 10pm.

For me, when I go there after 10pm is the time for relaxing and chatting and drinking a bit with the few girls left.

Gooroox

11-30-12, 18:41

Bernds is a club where to go during the day, only Friday and Saturday, if some alcool flew, you can still find something good after 10pm.By the way, don't try to go to Bernds on a Saturday, the club is closed at weekends!

Eeyore

11-30-12, 19:13

By the way, don't try to go to Bernds on a Saturday, the club is closed at weekends!Yes, one of my other bad experiences was showing up on a Saturday after a trans-Atlantic flight. I went there straightaway without checking their hours thinking, of course they must be open on a Saturday.

Indi Companion

11-30-12, 19:58

By the way, don't try to go to Bernds on a Saturday, the club is closed at weekends!Right, sorry for the mistake but being around usually over the weekends I am used to consider Friday and Saturday as a sole thing!

Bernds is closed Saturday and Sunday and every official festivity / bank holiday.

Neurosynth

12-11-12, 22:25

Indi Companion

12-12-12, 19:44

I was planning to go to Bernd's this Friday, the only day I'm free to go on this trip. Now I see it's the day of the Christmas Party. Has anyone been to one of these? It's a small place and I fear that it will be overly crowded and a generally less sexy experience than usual.Never been for Christmas Party at Bernds but for sure I would like!

Man in my opinion it may be the experience of a life, a total and perfect sexual debauchery, do not think about such things like overcrowded when you are talking about Bernds, I have been there in overcrowded moments with maybe 40 men around and no lockers available but the girls there are always a lot of fun and they know very well how to entertain a crowd!

Only suggestion, do not go there on such a day if you are not a fun of public sex, for sure waiting for a room could be long but there you can make very easily up for that using the wide and comfortable couches or whatever other place within that house! LOL!

Neurosynth

12-13-12, 18:48

I've been there before but am skeptical about the Christmas party. I hope you are right. We will see tomorrow.

Indi Companion

12-13-12, 19:08

I've been there before but am skeptical about the Christmas party. I hope you are right. We will see tomorrow.Maybe it will not be too crowded also because Saturday there are two Christmas parties at Oase and Sharks.

Yakob

12-15-12, 01:15

Maybe it will not be too crowded also because Saturday there are two Christmas parties at Oase and Sharks.I think that the mens that go to Oase and Sharks differ to the men that go to Bernds.

Yakob

12-16-12, 01:18

This is an open answer to some that have not been to Bernd's before. This is not the law, but my own meandering thoughts on a question posed to me.

For many Bernds is a club that is one of the places on one's list to visit. I am no regular at Bernds but I know the drill. I tell myself I will never find the girl I like here but I always leave the club having spent no less than 400 or 500 euro excluding the entry. Somehow Bernds makes me do it when I just click with a girl. Yes, the reviews of the place all seem generally positive, always describing a pretty consistent, high level of service from the girls.

The thing that the non Germans must remember that the girls generally no speak that much english if any at all. This is not Palace where consistenty the girls speak some english. Also the girls are not predominately Romanian where the schooling is english and not German as the second language. The girls are generally non Romanian and they may not speak the english.

For those that wonder: the line-up is never as good looking as the girls at Oase and the other big clubs. You get less than 20 girls here maybe even less. How can that compare to the 80-90 girls that Oase have? Also the average age of the girls are much older than the early twenties girls you get in the FKKs of Hessen.

This then brings me to the clientele that Bernds caters to. The FKKs of Hessen cater for a certain market which is optically good looking girls that provide a standard level of service and in some cases you can get exceptional service. Bernds sets itself up on service levels but does not go out of its way to get the models that you get at Palace or Oase.

On the point that some are nterested to hear what is the difference in clientele at Bernd's: what you find is local men. This is why German is spoken and english is not needed. Oase and Palace cater to the international clientele and is why english is so widely spoken too even from the German girls that work in the clubs. The German clientele of Bernds are to me middle aged to geriatric. They are overweight at best but probably obese really. They are business men and married but come to Bernds for some jiggy since they can and they will. They do not stay all day. They come in and fuck one or two then leave. Bernds is not set up to be an all club. It is somebody's house that has been turned into a brothel. There is not much to do except talk to the hoes and then you need to speak the German.

I hope this helps. Just my opinion to assist the man that posed the question but all can share in the response.

Gooroox

12-16-12, 11:11

The girls are generally non Romanian and they may not speak the english.As far as nationalities and languages are concerned, here is a brief summary of the ladies' (non-sexual) skills. As I'm fluent in German, I don't need to speak English with them so I'm pretty sure my

1) German SP: Babsie (excellent English) , Angie (basic English) , Jacky (?) , Sofia (?) , Susan (average English) , Kim (?) , masseuse Sandra (basic English)

2) Romanian SP: Erika (basic English) , Tina (basic English) , Valentina (?)

3) Polish SP: Anna (basic English) , Magda (basic English) , Nathalie (?)

4) Other nationalities: Alina (Lithuanian, basic English) , Jenny (Greek, basic English) , Katja (Russian, average English) , Leonie (Brazilian, basic English) , Mara (Dutch, excellent English) , Nicole (Czech,?)

Neurosynth

12-16-12, 11:31

My feeling is that Yakob under-evaluates Bernd's.

"I tell myself I will never find the girl I like here but I always leave the club having spent no less than 400 or 500 euro excluding the entry. Somehow Bernds makes me do it when I just click with a girl."

This may be a compliment, but it has a negative cast. It should be noted that 400 to 500 translates into 4 to 5 hours of one-to-one room time. It also includes some extras that might be extra charges elsewhere. Figuring in the additional couch time and voyeuristic treats Bernd's is known for this makes for a relatively long and action packed visit.

"The thing that the non Germans must remember that the girls generally no speak that much english if any at all."

Less English than perhaps the largest of FKKs, but as shown in the post below more than many others.

"Also the average age of the girls are much older than the early twenties girls you get in the FKKs of Hessen."

While it is true the demographics skew older, there are still enough women in the 20's or early 30's to satisfy, and the degree of affection and passion is, in my experience, much higher than the random Hessen FKK girl. Yes there are some gems in the places with 60+ girls, but it takes a lot of mining to find them. Bernd's offers reliable GFE experiences.

"On the point that some are nterested to hear what is the difference in clientele at Bernd's: what you find is local men."

Yes this is true. And there is a reason for that. Given experience and knowledge of the competition they keep coming back to Bernd's. This is a good, not bad, sign. Yes they are very average looking men, and some are overweight and so on. I'm not sure why this is a concern. I don't go there to look at the men, and the more average the others the better I will look to the girls! (Not that they care all that much one way or another.)

Two days ago I spent 4 hours at Bernd's. Two hours of that I spent with Mara and it felt like I was back in college making love with a coed. A truly wonderful time. The other two hours I spent talking with the girls and other visitors, and I only speak English.

So that's *my* experience. To each his own.

Yakob

12-16-12, 12:14

Once again this is not the law but what I have seen from experience. Men that are used to the big FKKs like Golden Time, Oase and World and Palace may find Bernds a disappointment. There is not the extensive line ups and vast facilities that the Hessen FKKs provide. I was only answering a question from what someone asked me and I thought the answer is generic and not specific so I would just post the answer on the Bernds thread in response since others may benefit.

For some reason the experiences I can recall of FKK goers that enter Bernds stay for a little while and then turn tail and leave have all been North American.

I remember meeting some American colleagues the day after they were at Bernds. These men are middle aged or late thirties men. I asked one what he thought of Bernds. He said that he was dragged to Bernds since one of their party wanted to go see it and had to experience it since he had read it on the forums. All he can say was that there was no where to sit and he and another colleague stood in the corridor since none of the girls would talk to them and just spoke German to their regulars ignboring them. Only the instigator took one girl and the other two left without booking a girl. They had stayed maybe 2 hours and only because one had to wait a bit for his girl booking.

Another man was from Canada. I remember sitting at the downstairs bar and seeing him getting snapped at by what I call a mature woman but many here would say she is in the full bloom of youth. Just a different view. Anyway the Canadaian man was a bit put out from the harsh reception and basically did not know what to do and just stood up the whole time acting rather uncomfortable.

A time in August when I was at Bernds I had seen two Americans from the midwest at Golden Time. We nodded acknowledgement when we saw each other again at Bernds the next day. They had come since they had read some stories about the great times that could be had there. They spent 5 miniutes talking at the bar with a German man then walked around the club ground level and basement then came out into the garden. I had a chat to them and next thing you know they had decided to leave as the club was not to their liking since it was small, the girls were no pretty or young and many were unfriendly. This is their words and it showed in their reaction that in less than 30 minutes of arrival they had gone after spending 70 euro on entry. When speaking to Conny she said that they are used to this reaction from some customers and do not enquire why.

I am not trying to put people off I am just trying to give an even balance to the good reports that are usually written by regulars or people that have a different view of what they want from a club visit.

Neurosynth

12-16-12, 13:13

Yakob

12-16-12, 13:53

"For some reason the experiences I can recall of FKK goers that enter Bernds stay for a little while and then turn tail and leave have all been North American."

If this is true in general it's probably because they don't have enough experience yet to get past the initial eye-candy layer and appreciate that it can easily be trumped by the behavior behind closed doors. And they probably misinterpret the fact that, unlike the sharks at the big clubs, the girls at Bernd's are supposed to let you come to them. They may see this as being cold rather than respectful. To me the fact that German men keep coming back to Bernd's is more meaningful than what occasional tourists may think.

But like I said, to each his own.

P. S. These comments are from a North American too.This is what I was trying to avoid by prefacing my answers to as a response to those who may not have been to Bernds before. I am not talking for the regulars and locals who are ardent supporters of Bernds and will not have nothing negative said.

The question posed to me was from someone who had not been to Bernds and I thought I would make an open answer to him. So I was writing from the perspective of someone new and not really knowing what Bernds is and only having experienced the big Hessen FKKs. You can tell for some that it can be a shock to the system coming to Bernds and wondering what the fuss is all about.

The fact that I can eventually have a good time at Bernds by spending a lot of money but I do not go back so often as I do other clubs since the draw is not there. Even you sound skeptical when you think it is going to be over crowded for the your visit on the Christmas party on 14 December reflects your taste in style of club. Bernds is not the fuck factories of Frankfurt.

Travel69

12-16-12, 14:53

It is very good club but not for main stream American.

English is not widely spoken. Visitor should be used to deal with foreign language even you speak only English. Main stream American expect everybody speak English.

Club facility does not reach standard of main stream America.

Receptionist staff service level and attitude, especially the old women charged in the bar is German standard. It mean the attitude is like the "soup Nazi " in Seinfeld, you take or leave. The main steam American cannot get used to it.

The no approach policy.

UltraHappy

12-16-12, 15:45

This is an open answer to some that have not been to Bernd's before. This is not the law, but my own meandering thoughts on a question posed to me.

For many Bernds is a club that is one of the places on one's list to visit.

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I hope this helps. Just my opinion to assist the man that posed the question but all can share in the response.Thank you Yakob for the open answer and to everyone else that shared their perspectives. Regardless of what happens when I visit (still a few months away) , I will now be able to say that I've been adequately warned. I will stop off here just a bit on one of my so-called days off. So if I strike out, it won't be a big deal. I found that 9-10 days non-stop in the clubs is a bit too much and that taking off a day in the middle is ideal for improving my experience the last half of the trip. Otherwise, those last few days can become a bit of a waste. I am intrigued by the reports of extremely high service levels so I will still check this place out. My only concern is exactly what you mentioned that I might not see anything there to my liking. In any case, I've been warned and will be prepared for striking out.

Indi Companion

12-16-12, 16:55

As far as nationalities and languages are concerned, here is a brief summary of the ladies' (non-sexual) skills. As I'm fluent in German, I don't need to speak English with them so I'm pretty sure my

1) German SP: Babsie (excellent English) , Angie (basic English) , Jacky (?) , Sofia (?) , Susan (average English) , Kim (?) , masseuse Sandra (basic English)

2) Romanian SP: Erika (basic English) , Tina (basic English) , Valentina (?)

3) Polish SP: Anna (basic English) , Magda (basic English) , Nathalie (?)

4) Other nationalities: Alina (Lithuanian, basic English) , Jenny (Greek, basic English) , Katja (Russian, average English) , Leonie (Brazilian, basic English) , Mara (Dutch, excellent English) , Nicole (Czech?) I would add about nationalities and laguage skills as follows:

Romanian: Dana, basic English, good German and Spanish, excellent Italian and basic French. I would like to be able to speak so many languages she does!

Valentina, (RO) speaks excellent English and is still in her early 20' and could easily work in Oase for her looks.

As per the experience, ok I can speak German but I am also a foreigner. All that I can say is that if my trips would not be usually over weekends I would go more often to Bernds. The girls can be a lot of fun to talk with as well as Connie at the bar once the ice is broken and they see you do not have that tipycal attitude many foreigners have such as: "ok I am used to Oase but I came here to have a loor and do to you a favor".

All what I can say is that if and when you go to Bernds, having a nice time or not depends on some psychological factors:

A) you go there only if you are an open minded monger, if you are still in that phase that you simply drool for the 18 years old girls of Oase do not go there, first impact will not be good and you will not be able to really enjoy the experience;

B) go there if you are looking for something exceptional in the service department, not if you are looking for great wellness day and maybe one session during it;

C) remember the no approach policy, a way to talk with the girls could also be to sit at one of the two bars. Many girls gather there to chitchat and you will eventually be involved in a very natural way;

D) remeber that the girls there are a mix, from the early twenty yrs old to the 45yrsold milfs, so getin the mindset that the choice is yours but you can always there find some young and beautiful girl.

However, as a foreigner all I can say is that Bernds for me is a great club, I go there seldom because my buddy friend is not a fun of the place and because usually I am in Clubs over the weekend. However e girls there always welcome me warmly, even if my last visit was 6 months before!

I will go there early days of January for a day of diversity in my usual long new year trip, but for a day off or of pause I will before go to PSR not to Bernds. For me that place is not a place where to recharge my batteries but where to go with them full reloaded!

Dreams

12-16-12, 20:08

Neutron Flux

12-17-12, 03:41

Receptionist staff service level and attitude, especially the old women charged in the bar is German standard. It mean the attitude is like the "soup Nazi " in Seinfeld, you take or leave.y.Oh, come on, man. So you are implying the "standard" German attitude is like the soup nazi? That's quite harsh. What is the Oase reception staff then? LOL. Well, I can assure you, you can find questionable attitude from low level service staff who hate their jobs all over the world, most definitely including the holy US of A. About Bernds, can contribute little, been there like five or six years ago, didn't think it was that bad, but didin't like it a lot either, excatly for the reasons mentioned.

you go there only if you are an open minded monger, if you are still in that phase that you simply drool for the 18 years old girls of Oase do not go there, first impact will not be good and you will not be able to really enjoy the experienceHow do you drop out of that phase, LOL? I'm in my 13th year of mongering, about half of those more or less regularly, and I still like the Oase girls. I also see a lot of really old guys at Oase, like 65+. I fear that will be me in the future. But then again, maybe not the worst prospect overall, haha.

Tobyg

12-17-12, 09:03

As far as nationalities and languages are concerned, here is a brief summary of the ladies' (non-sexual) skills. As I'm fluent in German, I don't need to speak English with them so I'm pretty sure my

1) German SP: Babsie (excellent English) , Angie (basic English) , Jacky (?) , Sofia (?) , Susan (average English) , Kim (?) , masseuse Sandra (basic English)

2) Romanian SP: Erika (basic English) , Tina (basic English) , Valentina (?)

3) Polish SP: Anna (basic English) , Magda (basic English) , Nathalie (?)

4) Other nationalities: Alina (Lithuanian, basic English) , Jenny (Greek, basic English) , Katja (Russian, average English) , Leonie (Brazilian, basic English) , Mara (Dutch, excellent English) , Nicole (Czech?) I speak very little German so have always had to communicate with the ladies in English. My take on their language skills is.

1) German SP: Babsie (excellent English) , Angie (average English) , Jacky (excellent English) , Sofia (never met) , Susan (excellent English) , Kim (almost no English) , masseuse Sandra (basic English)

2) Romanian SP: Erika (average English) , Tina (basic English) , Valentina (average English)

3) Polish SP: Anna (basic English) , Magda (excellent English) , Nathalie (average English)

4) Other nationalities: Alina (Lithuanian, basic English) , Jenny (Greek, basic English) , Katja (Russian, excellent English) , Leonie (Brazilian, basic English) , Mara (Dutch, excellent English) , Nicole (Czech, never met)

As a generalisation I have never really had any problem communicating there. The first time I walked in the door, Anna answered and when she realised I didn't speak German, she went and found someone who spoke better Englsih than her to show me around. I have spoekn to her since and have had long conversations with many of the other ladies. You do feel a bit out of it if you sit there listening to the German conversations going on around you but have found things switch to English pretty quickly often enough if you want to get involved.

For me the attraction of the place is the level of service. I'd rather have a 35 year old woman who knows how to suck and fuck properly than an 18 year old who doesn't know what she's doing. I find this place like going around to someone's house for dinner and then being invited to fuck the ladies of the family.